[19:12] <jazmac> Probably was a bad idea to begin with installing the theme on top of Personas.  No worries though.
[19:12] <jazmac> bbl
[19:12] <jazmac> Thanks all
[19:12] <Berzerker> jazmac, gl
[19:12] <anr78> anyway. I want to be able to read and write from both Ubuntu and OS X, but since we are only talking about "media" I should be able to not mess stuff up for os x.
[19:13] <userone> when i install ubuntu i have only a swap partition and / partition. should i have a /boot and if so why (what advantages) and how big should this be?
[19:13] <Berzerker> anr78, don't go into your /System folder and you'll be fine
[19:13] <jedc> anr78: i believe you need to turn off journaling on the os x partition
[19:13] <Berzerker> user01, /boot is in your normal partition
[19:13] <jedc> anr78: to be able to write to it
[19:13] <Berzerker> blah
[19:13] <anr78> richardcavell: have you changed your os x uid to match your ubuntu uid?
[19:13] <Halitech> userone, not normally neccessary to have seperate /boot anymore
[19:13] <Berzerker> userone, /boot is in your normal partition
[19:13] <richardcavell> jedc: I thought that was the case, too.  But I am able to read and write to my OS X partition right now
[19:13] <richardcavell> anr78: yep
[19:14] <richardcavell> anr78: I've put specific instructions on how to do this at ubuntuforums.org.  It's stickied at the top of the Apple Users forum
[19:14] <jedc> userone: you might want to have a seperate partition for /home, it makes upgrading or anything a breeze
[19:14] <commander_> what is the best anitvirus
[19:14] <Halitech> userone, depending on your system you may need it (if you can boot you don't) but on my old P4 with a 160gig drive I had to or it wouldn't boot
[19:14] <anr78> richardcavell: great!
[19:14] <richardcavell> anr78: I just tested it, and it works fine *shrug*
[19:15] <jedc> commander_: anti-virus software is not really necesary in ubuntu
[19:15] <mickster04> jedc if at all?
[19:15] <Halitech> HFS+  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HFS_Plus .. can read and write to HFS+ now
[19:15] <anr78> richardcavell: what works fine? not turning off journaling?
[19:15] <Berzerker> userone, unless you specifically make a /boot partition, it's included in your / partition
[19:15] <richardcavell> Halitech: is that just newer kernels or what?
[19:15] <jedc> mickster04: yep
[19:15] <Berzerker> richardcavell, since Hardy
[19:15] <pharsalus> Although if you're really paranoid, AVG Free has a Linux version. (Closed source though.)
[19:15] <fireun> Berzerker: sudo apt-key adv --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com --recv-keys 8A626B42
[19:16]  * nonix4 ponders whether Xorg w/ proprietary nvidia 180.44 driver using 4.7 gigabytes of RSS is a memory leak or just "normal"...
[19:16] <fireun> Berzerker: does not work
[19:16] <richardcavell> Berzerker: what version of Ubuntu/kernel do you have?
[19:16] <fireun> Berzerker: william grant's ppa
[19:16] <Halitech> richardcavell, doesn't say ... As with NTFS on Linux, there has been some success in porting HFS+ to Linux, at least in non-journaled read/write and journal read-only mode
[19:16] <Berzerker> richardcavell, I'm running UNR Jaunty
[19:16] <richardcavell> anr78: I'm on Karmic with 2.6.31-5 kernel, and I can read/write HFS+ without modifying the HFS+ partition
[19:16] <userone> i have tried all the howtos / forums to get grub back but nothing. so now i will go through the ubuntu install process but NOT fomat the drives until it gives option to reinstall grub again. this should fix grub without changing anything else. the live cd command prompt just doesnt cut it.
[19:16]  * fluurp will be back later
[19:16] <anr78> richardcavell: oh.. your post on the forums is a loooooong read :)
[19:16] <Berzerker> richardcavell, 2.6.28-14
[19:16] <poseidon> Anyone know of a good comparison of awn and cairo-dock?
[19:17] <richardcavell> anr78: skip down to part 2, about the 3rd item
[19:17] <richardcavell> Berzerker: Yeah, my understanding is it writes without using the journal and reads using the journal
[19:17] <jedc> poseidon: i liked awn better, cairo had more themes but i though awn looked nicer
[19:17] <Berzerker> richardcavell, yes.
[19:17] <bbeck> Does anyone know where I can find the source code for ncal?
[19:17] <richardcavell> Berzerker: So you lose some theoretical benefits of journalling
[19:18] <Untouchab1e> hi all
[19:18] <Untouchab1e> I really need some help
[19:18] <richardcavell> Berzerker: but it's no biggie, surely
[19:18] <Berzerker> richardcavell, still, you can read/write. I'm sure that's all people really want.
[19:18] <Untouchab1e> installed Ubuntu 9.04 on my Dell Studio XPS 13, and Wifi is not working properly
[19:18] <Untouchab1e> it cant seem to obtain an IP and I think there's and issue with DHCP
[19:18] <Berzerker> does it recognize networks?
[19:18] <Untouchab1e> its a Dell 1515 WLAN card (its an Atheros card, uses the ath9k driver)
[19:18] <Halitech> Untouchab1e, does it show the wireless card in iwconfig?
[19:18] <KNY> hey guys, what do I have to do to enable tab-completion on apt-get packages? Some of my ubuntu computers have it and some don't.
[19:19] <Untouchab1e> Halitech: yes it does, and it can detect available networks and try to connect
[19:19] <Untouchab1e> but times out when it tries to obtain an IP
[19:19] <rgnr> any1 has fmodex64 4.24.16 ?
[19:19] <Halitech> Untouchab1e, any security on the router?
[19:19] <tdstrong> is keyserver.ubuntu.com down?  I can ping it, but can't request gpg keys.
[19:19] <ryan_> i want to set up an old desktop as a file and print server, how can i do this?
[19:20] <Untouchab1e> Halitech: yeah, WPA2
[19:20] <rgnr> !!!
[19:20] <rgnr> any1 has fmodex64 4.24.16 ?
[19:20] <Halitech> Untouchab1e, try turning it off
[19:20] <Untouchab1e> that might be the problem I guess, I can try switching off the encryption
[19:20] <Untouchab1e> give me a sec
[19:20] <Oli```> How can I monitor live lirc events?
[19:20] <Halitech> ryan_, use the alt install cd, do a minimal install and add the apps/services you want/need
[19:21] <Guest89784> anyone, I just installed ubuntu 8.04 on my notebook but i seem to be having problems with my touchpad. Its hypersensitive and responds poorly .. any solutions for this??
[19:21] <Untouchab1e> I spent the full last day trying to figure this one out in openSUSE though.. eventually gave up and tried Ubuntu instead
[19:21] <Halitech> Untouchab1e, do you have wpasupplicant installed?
[19:22] <Untouchab1e> connecting to unencrypted network now..
[19:22]  * richardcavell is off to bed now
[19:22] <jazmac> Berzerker, doesn't seem like it was Personas
[19:22] <jazmac> It was a badly written theme
[19:23] <Halitech> Untouchab1e, that worked?
[19:23] <LoneWlf> after my upgrade on Aug 6, 2009, in Ubuntu 8.10, my monitoring machine stacks its cron processes and eventually becomes unresponsive due (I believe) to too many open files
[19:23] <LoneWlf> I've been trying to capture more data for a week, a list of the packages upgrade can be had from http://paste.ubuntu.com/252619/
[19:23] <LoneWlf> has anyone heard of an issue like this?
[19:23] <LoneWlf> can anyone help me or direct me to where help can be had?
[19:23] <jazmac> I had Vista-Aero theme installed and it had to be removed to fix this problem.
[19:24] <precisoajuda> alqguem fala portugues ou español?
[19:24] <Halitech> !es | precisoajuda
[19:24] <mneptok> LoneWlf: have you stopped and restarted cron/anacron?
[19:24] <puremichael> hmmm nautilus takes 175MiB of ram?
[19:25] <mneptok> puremichael: are you a new Linux user?
[19:25] <puremichael> not really new, rather using it but scratching on top of the surface
[19:25] <mneptok> puremichael: http://www.linuxatemyram.com/
[19:25] <precisoajuda> ok.. somebody help me please... i cant install my webcam...
[19:25] <mneptok> puremichael: read that carefully
[19:26] <puremichael> yes, i already know about disk caching and so on
[19:26] <jgoo___ffs> requesting real version of this page http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=122402
[19:26] <vieira> hi for all
[19:26] <mneptok> puremichael: it's likely that Nautilus is using cached memory
[19:26] <jgoo___ffs> one that isn't outdated, and / or docs on tightvnc that actually are for the current version and give information on session resuming
[19:26] <puremichael> but didn't notice that nautilus takes ram, i thought kernel would do caching
[19:27] <xiong> where is komodo?
[19:27] <Kelder> puremichael: ram usage is not the end-all of efficiency measures, otherwise vista would suck since it uses superfetch..
[19:27] <[1]Untouchab1e> back
[19:27] <vieira> hellow
[19:27] <[1]Untouchab1e> When trying to connect to unencrypted network I did eventaully manage to connect
[19:27] <[1]Untouchab1e> but I still cant ping or access anything
[19:27] <[1]Untouchab1e> so there is definetly still something wrong
[19:27] <Halitech> [1]Untouchab1e, can you ping the gateway ip adress?
[19:28] <puremichael> yay; i've got 6gib, i'm not worried, but i didn't thought that applications take ram for diskcache instead of something more low level
[19:28] <madley>  I have just installed ubuntu8.04 on my notebook .. I am having a problem with my touchpad.. its hyper sensitive .. Any knows how to solve this
[19:28] <LoneWlf> mneptok : nope, not as yet
[19:28] <Halitech> madley, I believe there is a program call gsynaptic that controls the touchpad, have you tried that?
[19:29] <LoneWlf> mneptok : I think I'm starting to stack now, so I will go try that, see if I can get it in before it becomes unresponsive
[19:29] <gwildor> madley, system > preferenes > mouse
[19:29] <madley> Halitech: No, I will try that
[19:29] <userone> the ubuntu installation has asked me for the boot loader device. should i accept the default (hd0) or use /dev/sda1 (vista) or /dev/sda3/ ubuntu 9.04. i want to be able to dual-boot vista / ubuntu using grub
[19:29] <madley> Gwildor: am using a notebook
[19:30] <gwildor> madley, so am i...
[19:30] <pharsalus> The utility works for mousepads too
[19:30] <madley> Gwildor, I ll try that out n let u know
[19:30] <userone> or device /dev/sda which is the generic hdd
[19:30] <gwildor> madley, sorry, that may have been rude, i should have repsonded as pharsalus  did
[19:31] <jgoo___ffs> have they fixed the bugs in nautilus yet?
[19:31] <madley> gwildor, no problem dude
[19:31] <jgoo___ffs> I bought a mac purely because nautilus just doesn't work
[19:31] <jedc> userone: the default will install grub on the MBR, and is suitable for dual booting
[19:31] <Halitech> jgoo___ffs, what problem are  you referring to?
[19:32] <pharsalus> jgoo___ffs, there are other file managers out there than Nautilus, Macs are fairly expensive, did you consider the alternatives!?
[19:32] <xiong> um, noob question: what search string might produce a tutorial on how to find and add repositories to synaptic?
[19:32] <jiohdi> when you get a new version of firefox... how do you make it replace the current version rather than just exist along side it?
[19:32] <mickster04> !ff35
[19:32] <mickster04> it says it all there
[19:33] <jiohdi> thanks mick :)
[19:33] <jgoo___ffs> pharsalus, I did consider driving around and killing hookers to vent off frustration every time a drag and drop failed or I got annoyed at nautilus, but in the end buying a mac meant I had more storage in my freezer for pizza
[19:33] <Kelder> xiong: there are great sites on which open software is a nice alternative to the software you know.. other than that you could use the ass/remove software options to get a more user-friendly version of synaptic
[19:33] <pharsalus> *giggles*
[19:33] <emil111> hello, I am a new ubuntu user and I have somehow made it impossible to boot xp after the grub bootloader crashed. can someone explain to me how to remove it, please?
[19:34] <mickster04> !grub
[19:34] <jgoo___ffs> pharsalus, there is a HUGE bug, that isn't even documented
[19:34] <Kelder> xiong: add/remove not ass/remove ;) sorry
[19:34] <mickster04> ;)
[19:34] <jgoo___ffs> pharsalus, based on which node has focus when dragging and dropping trees in extanded mode... this really burned me once... and... I just can't... brb, off to drive downtown for some sport
[19:34] <Yos> LoL
[19:35] <pharsalus> jgoo___ffs, Did you submit a bug report?
[19:35] <xiong> Kelder, i'm okay with synaptic but i don't understand how to use it to install software that doesn't come up in the synaptic search
[19:35] <xiong> Kelder, i think i need to add more repositories?
[19:35] <Halitech> always founf CTRL C and CTRL V to work great for me
[19:36] <jgoo___ffs> pharsalus, no, I am using it as a metric for the development of nautilus. When someone *else* finds it, and fixes it, I will consider it mature enough for me to use it again
[19:36] <jgoo___ffs> it is no big deal pharsalus, actually I am late to work on some stuff, just wanted to vent about vnc issues and annoyances
[19:36] <xiong> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Ubuntu#Adding%20Other%20Repositories -- this all makes sense and it's pretty obvious/basic -- the question is, where are the URLs of these other repositories found?
[19:36] <jiohdi> mickster04, how about an explanation for ff in english, what you gave me was in japanese stereo instruction hackereese
[19:37] <Kelder> xiong: if you have set your Software Sources to include all sources, then that is probably not your problem, to me it sounds like you have trouble finding out what software youd like for your personal purposes (which is a valid concern when you use synaptic) basically you have to know which software you want before you enter synaptic
[19:37] <afed> kill all
[19:37] <fauxreigner> hey ubuntu channel - does ubuntu still have a hard time dealing with ATI graphics cards?
[19:38] <xiong> Kelder, i want the big, fat coding-oriented text editor, preferably with perl-specific features -- i'm a big fan of bbedit
[19:38] <mickster04> jiohdi, u can just remove the old firefox
[19:38] <libtech> fauxreigner: im using jaunty on an old dell with an ati x300, compiz works pretty well
[19:38] <Halitech> fauxreigner, depends on what card and what version
[19:38]  * batchy http://time-war.com/recruit.php?uniqid=gp1248982542 dr who based game. its new- all the chances to be top player is yours. also, two RANDOM players will win psps in time
[19:38] <mneptok> xiong: do you work on platforms other than Linux?
[19:38] <jiohdi> mickster... I am afraid :)
[19:38] <mickster04> jiohdi, of what?
[19:39] <xiong> mneptok, bbedit on mac os 9
[19:39] <Kelder> xiong: they are found with the software accompaning them.. like when you use the Deluge torrent client, you might want to add its repository so you can receive the latest versions of that software.. but there arent any 'goldmine' repositories you can add to get a bunch more options.. cept maybe medibuntu
[19:39] <jiohdi> mickster, that when I remove the old one that the new one will lose parts
[19:39] <mneptok> xiong: Mac OS .... *WHAT*?!
[19:39] <mickster04> jiohdi, they are seperate entities
[19:39] <xiong> mneptok, yah, i was the last of the mohicans
[19:39] <NickUK`> I am having a problem with our AdHoc network not sending any packets, can anybody help please
[19:39] <mickster04> !tab | jiohdi
[19:39] <mneptok> xiong: PM?
[19:39] <fauxreigner> okay, well - I'm planning on buying a new laptop soon, and one brand that I'm considering only offers ATI Mobility cards...
[19:39] <Kelder> xiong: eclipse or netbeans are feature rich editors (IDE's) you could also look into Komodo if thats not enough
[19:39]  * batchy http://time-war.com/recruit.php?uniqid=gp1248982542 dr who based game. its new- all the chances to be top player is yours. also, two RANDOM players will win psps in time
[19:39] <wonderer`> does  anybody uses BT4
[19:40] <jiohdi> mickster, the new one seems to have inherited all the changes I made to the old one... so how is it doing that unless it is depending on some shared parts?
[19:40] <pharsalus> Netbeans is good
[19:40] <wonderer`> i have some questions
[19:40] <[2]Untouchab1e> ok, for some reason, it just magically started working ^^
[19:40] <jiohdi> thanks ubottu
[19:40] <[2]Untouchab1e> but now I have another question...
[19:40] <mickster04> jiohdi,  i dont know..it should have been explained in the documents u read
[19:40] <Halitech> fauxreigner, you may want to look at nvidia instead, ati just dropped a bunch of cards from support so unless the open source drivers work, might be disappointed
[19:41] <jiohdi> mickster04: except I could not read them
[19:41] <NickUK`> I am having a problem with our AdHoc network not sending any packets, can anybody help please
[19:41] <mickster04> jiohdi, what is there that would be lost?
[19:42] <jiohdi> skins, add ons, xmarks, etc
[19:42] <Untouchab1e> my laptop uses a hybrid-sli setup..
[19:42] <mickster04> !grub > Risalat
[19:42] <Untouchab1e> with a geforce 9500m + 9200m
[19:42] <fauxreigner> Halitech, thanks - I don't want to end up with an unsupported system right out of the box
[19:42] <Untouchab1e> but the nvidia linux drivers doesnt support hotswapping between using both or just the integrated GPU... how can I someone specify that I dont want to use both (since I dont game in Linux, I never need them both)
[19:43] <Halitech> fauxreigner, you can compare against here if you want before purchasing http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/Pages/index.aspx
[19:43] <Bow2`Shino> open office writer wont run. i get this message
[19:43] <Bow2`Shino> eric@Raiju-desktop:~$ oowriter
[19:43] <Bow2`Shino> ** (soffice:4307): WARNING **: unable to get gail version number
[19:43] <Bow2`Shino> terminate called after throwing an instance of 'com::sun::star::uno::RuntimeException'
[19:43] <FloodBot2> Bow2`Shino: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:44] <beerkid> Anyone experienced with Yahoo Pipes? An easy $20 if you can figure out one thing.
[19:44] <mzz> it is amusing how some of the hardware in this laptop has better ubuntu drivers than preinstalled windows drivers. Specifically the wireless works and the touchpad does two-finger scrolling.
[19:45] <mickster04> !ot
[19:45] <beerkid> I see. Thanks
[19:45] <mzz> (must admit the X driver didn't, but I'm pretty sure that's fixed in karmic)
[19:46] <fauxreigner> Halitech, I don't see that card available there.  That's bad news.
[19:46] <captn> i used apt-get apache2 to install apache but i don't know where to find httpd.conf does it exist
[19:46] <Halitech> fauxreigner, what card?
[19:46] <grawity> captn: /etc/apache2 -- also it is called apache2.conf, I think.
[19:46] <jedc> Bow2`Shino: i get that warning too and it runs for me, so its just the runtime exception hehe, not helpful but narrows it down
[19:46] <captn> ty
[19:46] <mizerydearia> I just installed Ubuntu 9.04 Jaunty Jackalope and installed Ubuntuzilla 4.7.4-0ubuntu1 (amd64) which installed Mozilla Firefox 3.5.2.  The pc has Internet access since Konqueror can view google.com, however, Mozilla Firefox is not able to resolve domain names, but can access sites by ip.  How come dns resolution doesn't work?
[19:46] <wonderer`> what is the best usb wireless adapdor with good support on backtrack 4
[19:47] <fauxreigner> Halitech, I'm looking at Lenovo laptops.  The only graphics cards they have available are onboard or Radeon Mobility 3470's.
[19:47] <wonderer`> plz help me
 it runs then this recovery thing pops up and closes after i hit next
[19:47] <mzz> mizerydearia: wild guess: there's an ipv6 disable option in about:config. Try toggling that.
[19:47] <Untouchab1e> Ubuntu is only picking up 2,2GB of my 4GB of RAM.. I am running the 32bit version though so I reckon thats the reason, but would it be possible to at least detect 3GB?
[19:47] <firecrotch> wonderer`: This is #ubuntu, not #backtrack
[19:47] <wonderer`> i thing thew have too much common theese days
[19:48] <rd1381> how can i configure my whole system(not just firefox) to use a proxy server for connecting to internet
[19:48] <mizerydearia> mzz: aha!  network.dns.disableIPv6 was false.  Setting it to true fix it.  Thanks!
[19:48] <jMyles> Is there a way to enable compositing in gnome without compiz?
[19:48] <Halitech> fauxreigner, there is the HD3xxx series, not sure if it would be the same driver or not
[19:48] <Qvintvs> is there a way to get a list of files that came with a package?
[19:48] <userone> ok..what just happened. i 'reinstalled' ubuntu but didnt format the /dev/sda3 exiting 9.04 partition. it fixed grub and now vista / ubuntu are on the boot menu and boot up BUT now nothing else in my ubuntu works..the mouse is dead...the touchpad is dead...the keyboard is dead...what happened!!!?
[19:48] <grawity> Qvintvs: dpkg -L package
[19:49] <rd1381> how can i configure my whole system(not just firefox) to use a proxy server for connecting to internet
[19:49] <mzz> mizerydearia: that *probably* means there's something odd about your networking configuration or the network you're on, but I don't know the specifics. Sorry.
[19:50] <Halitech> Untouchab1e, 32bit should see 4 gig but might only show 3.8gig or so, what does free -m show?
[19:50] <Kelder> rd1381: if your proxy server supports openvpn for example, you can just start an openvpn session and route your entire internet traffic through that server\
[19:50] <jedc> rd1381: you probably can set up an ssh tunnel to the proxy on port 80, which i think is the default port for internet. this is speculation ive never done it, anyone more knowledgabe know?
[19:50] <jedc> rd1381: probably should listen to kelder :p
[19:51] <ubuntistas> hello is there any way i can use a software for my toefl cd because it's not working on ubuntu?
[19:51] <rd1381> Kelder: no its a simple running java app (your-freedom.com client) which just gives a port for firefox to access
[19:51] <Kelder> rd1381: i only have experience with paid proxies
[19:51] <rd1381> it has a openvpn mode but i cant seenm to configure openvpn to use it
[19:51] <GuyFromHell> Anyone haveing issues downloading packages atm?
[19:52] <linuxdude> hello
[19:52] <Halitech> ubuntistas, did you try WINE?
[19:52] <sparr> is there any way to get firefox (or linux) to redirect all traffic aimed at foo.com:88 to foo.com:80 ?
[19:52] <linuxdude> yes wine will work
[19:52] <ivanov> hi all
[19:52] <linuxdude> hi icanov
[19:52] <ivanov> i can't mount mmc card
[19:52] <jedc> GuyFromHell: you could try using a different mirror for the software if you are having issues related to the server, otherwise it isprobably your connection or apt
[19:52] <ubuntistas> halitech it's working but not so good
[19:53] <linuxdude> ivanov:do ls /mount
[19:53] <Halitech> ubuntistas, only other way would be a VM
[19:53] <fauxreigner> Halitech, I'm just going to shop around more, I think.  Thanks for the help.
[19:53] <ivanov> I can only get the mmc to boot after booting the board once and then reboot
[19:53] <GuyFromHell> oh it just started working again
[19:53] <linuxdude> ivanov: do ls /media i mean
[19:53] <userone> ok..the keyboard suddenly works now...how do i shutdown using the keyboard only?
[19:53] <GuyFromHell> jedc, if it stops i'll try changing to us.
[19:53] <ctmjr> jMyles: you can install xcompmgr and remove compiz
[19:53] <Halitech> fauxreigner, ok, are you in North America?
[19:53] <ubuntistas> how can i install windows xp again halitech?
[19:53] <linuxdude> got ta goooo
[19:53] <rd1381> anyone here that knows how to use openvpn with a http proxy?
[19:53] <jedc> GuyFromHell: usually the ones that are physically closer to you are faster
[19:53] <bruce927> Hey, does anyone know how to get keymanager to stop asking for my password everytime I boot up?
[19:53] <ivanov> linuxdude: i only can mount mmc after reboot
[19:53] <fauxreigner> Halitech, yes
[19:53] <ortsvorsteher> !ot | ubuntistas
[19:53] <gwildor> Bruce, turn of the keyring...
[19:54] <Halitech> ubuntistas, last time I did it was install windows first then linux
[19:54] <bruce927> gwildor: How?
[19:54] <grawity> bruce927: Do you use autologin or are you logging in manually? Also, GNOME or KDE?
[19:54] <GuyFromHell> jedc, you mean network-ly closer :P
[19:54] <ejv> sparr: iptables
[19:54] <Halitech> fauxreigner, look at system76.com they have some good systems
[19:54] <bruce927> autologin, grawity, gnome
[19:54] <grawity> bruce927: Change the keyring password to an empty one.
[19:54] <gwildor> bruce927, startup sessions... i think
[19:54] <ejv> sparr, you need to edit the linux firewall configuration
[19:55] <Kelder> rd1381: im afraid im not familiar with your-freedom.com  just remember that any proxy is basically paying for your bandwidth, so its like using a secondary ISP - you get what you pay for.
[19:55] <ubuntistas> so any clue halitech?
[19:55] <jedc> ubuntistas: you just put a windows disc in and reboot, make sure the boot order is looking for the cd rom (randomly press all the f buttons on startup to get to settings)
[19:55] <LoneWlf> after my upgrade on Aug 6, 2009, in Ubuntu 8.10, my monitoring machine stacks its cron processes and eventually becomes unresponsive due (I believe) to too many open files
[19:55] <Halitech> ubuntistas, do you want to dual boot or use it in a vm?
[19:55] <LoneWlf> I've been trying to capture more data for a week, a list of the packages upgrade can be had from http://paste.ubuntu.com/252619/
[19:55] <ejv> sparr: something like: iptables -A INPUT -p tcp --dport 88 -j ACCEPT
[19:55] <ubuntistas> dual boot halitech
[19:55] <ejv> sparr: then: iptables -A PREROUTING -t nat -p tcp --dport 88 -j REDIRECT --to-port 80
[19:56] <ejv> sparr: play with it, that should push you in the right direction though ;)
[19:56] <moox> hi there. I have a question about MTA metrocard and PATH, can someone help me?
[19:56] <ejv> iptables is powerful as hell
[19:56] <ejv> man iptables
[19:56] <Untouchab1e> could someone help me specify what I need to do in order specify that Ubuntu only uses my integrated GPU? (Got a Dell Studio XPS 13 with a hybrid-SLI: GF 9200m + 9400m)?
[19:56] <Halitech> ubuntistas, http://apcmag.com/how_to_dual_boot_linux_and_windows_xp_linux_installed_first.htm
[19:57] <Untouchab1e> I guess I could add the 9400m to a blacklist of some sort?
[19:57] <Untouchab1e> just not sure how to do it
[19:57] <rd1381> Kelder: so how can i make my whole system use a proxy
[19:57] <bruce927> Can I use startup disk maker to make a bootable copy of windows xp installer on a usb drive?
[19:57] <__theIdiotBox> bruce927: i guess no
[19:58] <fauxreigner> Halitech, thanks for the heads up on system76.  Looks like good stuff.  Will any of these systems have a hard time dual-booting Windows 7 and Ubuntu?
[19:58] <enthdegree> I'm dual booting crunchbang + win7 effortlessly.
[19:58] <bill> hello, i installed unbuntu 9.04 on a gateway 7330 ... and i dont have sound ... did all updates... and i see the sounds works ... but cant find the switch to turn the sound on thru the speakers .... any ideas ?
[19:59] <ejv> bill: you check ubuntuforums.org ?
[19:59] <bill> ejv, have a link ?
[19:59] <ejv> bill: lspci | grep Audio
[19:59] <Halitech> fauxreigner, I don't see why they would, check out http://apcmag.com/how_to_dual_boot_linux_and_windows_xp_linux_installed_first.htm
[20:00] <ejv> bill: telling us that you have a gateway 7330 is pretty useless to us, we need to know what hardware/chipsets are in use ;)
[20:00] <gbrent> Has anyone here ever setup Squid to use multiple IP's?
[20:01] <bill> ejv, intel chipset and audio
[20:01] <jedc> rd1381: ssh -D 80 username@ip-address-of-ssh-server might work, might need to use sudo
[20:01] <bruce927> How can I make a bootable windows usb disk from in ubuntu?
[20:01] <Halitech> bruce927, I don;t think you can
[20:01] <jedc> rd1381: i havent tried it though
[20:01] <bruce927> Damn :S
[20:01] <ejv> bill: pastebin please :)
[20:01] <rd1381> jedc: its not ssh server just a web proxy
[20:02] <ubuntistas> halitech do i need a cd for this one
[20:02] <jedc> rd1381: oh, i have no idea then
[20:02] <Halitech> bruce927, I could be wrong though
[20:02] <ubuntistas> how much does it cost to a windows cp cd?
[20:02] <rd1381> thanks anyway
[20:02] <ubuntistas> how much does it cost to a windows xp cd?
[20:02] <bruce927> I need it for my s
[20:02] <Halitech> ubuntistas, don't think so, other then the windows cd
[20:03] <bruce927> acer aspire one, ubuntistas
[20:03] <nutzer_> allo
[20:03] <enthdegree> halloah
[20:03] <nutzer_> hallo
[20:03] <Pyrophelia> I need to build a large raid (10-15TB) and I was hoping to use cheap sata drives instead of scsi.  Can anybody recomend a site that lists supported sata raid cards?
[20:03] <libtech> bruce927: you could probably write an image of windows xp to your usb drive using an app called ImageWriter
[20:03] <ejv> Pyrophelia: use mdadm
[20:04] <libtech> bruce927: the package is called usb-imagewriter. also the image has to be a .img file
[20:04] <laeeqashahid> hello.. im new to linux, have installed ubuntu on hp mini 2133.. facing few problems.. majorly the mic is not working.. plz plz plz help me to sort dis out.. as its must for my netbook.. regards
[20:04] <ubuntistas> bruce li explain
[20:04] <Pici> !who
[20:04] <Pyrophelia> ejv, software raid is terrible.
[20:05] <Halitech> bruce927, then again ... http://kurtsh.spaces.live.com/blog/cns!DA410C7F7E038D!1665.entry
[20:05] <gbrent> Anyone here ever setup Squid Proxy to use multiple IP's?
[20:05] <enthdegree> moin moin moin. gnarrr
[20:05] <ejv> Pyrophelia: no, it's not. explain why you think that please.
[20:05] <ortsvorsteher> !anyone | gbrent
[20:05] <Pici> gbrent: Have you asked in #squid ?
[20:05] <gbrent> yeah, no one responds for 30 min
[20:06] <laeeqashahid> hello.. im new to linux, have installed ubuntu on hp mini 2133.. facing few problems.. majorly the mic is not working.. plz plz plz help me to sort dis out.. as its must for my netbook.. regards
[20:06] <Halitech> !patience laeeqashahid
[20:06] <Pyrophelia> ejv, because the cpu manages the raid.  that may be fine for 1 or 2 drives, but when your array is 20+ disks the cpu gets bogged down quick
[20:06] <jgoo___ffs> http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-540839.html someone read that, it is pissing me off
[20:06] <Pyrophelia> ejv, I'd rather have a dedicated raid card.
[20:06] <Halitech> !patience | laeeqashahid
[20:06] <ejv> Pyrophelia: I have a 10T server, raid 6, one hot swap, using mdadm with absolutely no problems, hdparm at over 2gbit.
[20:07] <jedc> ubuntistas: if you are a student, you can join the acm for $20 and dl it for free, otherwise probably > $80
[20:08] <Pyrophelia> n/m this is no help.  i'm not using software raid
[20:08] <kazadores> alguna
[20:08] <guntbert> !ohmy | jgoo___ffs
[20:08] <kazadores> woman
[20:08] <ejv> Pyrophelia: you said cheap lol, your comments are backed up though with data, might I suggeset a low-end Adaptec card then
[20:08] <critical_thread> in ubuntu 904, where is x11 config file stored? /etc ?
[20:08] <ejv> Pyrophelia: s/are/aren't
[20:08] <sparr> thanks ejv
[20:09] <bruce927> What if I tried dd to copy the disk image to my drive, then use a tool to make it bootable?
[20:09] <mzz> critical_thread: by default you don't have one. /var/log/Xorg.0.log will tell which it uses, if any.
[20:09] <Some_Person> how do i reset ifconfig?
[20:09] <Halitech> critical_thread, /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[20:09] <ejv> you're welcome sparr
[20:09] <libtech> bruce927: that should work too
[20:09] <ortsvorsteher> !details | Some_Person
[20:09] <bruce927> What app can I use to make it bootable?
[20:09] <Some_Person> I set an IP address and want it back to DHCP
[20:10] <padi999> hey guys!
[20:10] <ortsvorsteher> Some_Person: try system -> system settings -> network and enable there dhcp
[20:10] <ejv> Pyrophelia: http://dpaste.com/80197/
[20:10] <Halitech> Some_Person, how did you change it to static?
[20:10] <jedc> Some_Person: if you are connected, try sudo dhclient
[20:11] <ejv> Pyrophelia: the fact of the matter is that years ago, chips sucked, and mdadm was subject to latencies sure, but my performance suggests that mdadm is a viable alternative, and by the way i've got a low-end dual core AMD cpu. and those stats are a server with heavy load, 25+ users atm.
[20:11] <jgoo___ffs> guntbert, you want to read how much fail tehre is there? eh, can't be bothered to arrow back and fix my typo
[20:12] <padi999> Question: I want to setup a truecrypt encrypted server(partition) and wanted to ask, how I should go with the inbound connections from clients that access that server. FTP? VPN? SSH? Truecrypt mount via network? How to go for multiple users and passwords?
[20:12] <ejv> padi999: LUKS
[20:12] <jgoo___ffs> fix it already, it was 2 months ago I had this problem with vnc
[20:12] <marwan> hallo, i need help with git, who can help me?
[20:12] <jgoo___ffs> what the hell is up with tightvnc? I just redownloaded it, and it is still the same unsable bug with the keybaord mappings
[20:12] <jgoo___ffs> what the hell is wrong with it
[20:12] <ejv> jgoo___ffs: don't use vnc, use freenx
[20:13] <Pici> !attitude | jgoo___ffs
[20:13] <jgoo___ffs> and who is so anal that they have the floodbots remove ops from themselves? stop spamming the output with op status messages, just leave them at ops
[20:13] <apoleo12> Ok, when I have a friend over, using my machine and I have hiom on his own account.. and did fast-switching.... but evidently it frozed. and had to reboot... why is that? anyone had that problem?
[20:13] <Pyrophelia> ejv, what about physical limitations?  mdadm is limited by the sata that is physically on the mainboard?  I'm planing on starting with around 10 sata disks and with that number wouldn't if just be cheaper to get a dedicated raid/sata card?
[20:13] <jgoo___ffs> ejv, I am not using nx, because nx sucks if you have more than 10 windows open
[20:13] <__theIdiotBox> !attitude| jgoo___ffs
[20:14] <enthdegree> Hello! I'm running 9.04 crunchbang. Whenever I run a fullscreen app like Wesnoth, all of my system tray apps mysteriously terminate.
[20:14] <enthdegree> Help would be appreciated.
[20:14] <Halitech> jgoo___ffs, use x over ssh
[20:14] <jgoo___ffs> __theIdiotBox, !stopSpammingYourAnalAttitudeAndQuitThePowerTripYouAreOnThereIsNothingWrongWithMyAttitudeChangeTheWayYouRead
[20:14] <Pyrophelia> ejv, I thought* mdadm is limited to the sata on the mainboard rather
[20:15] <enthdegree> This channel reads like it's drugged.
[20:16] <jgoo___ffs> Pici, __theIdiotBox, both of you stop being confrontational
[20:16] <jgoo___ffs> Halitech, I don't think that would work for me, thanks though
[20:16] <__theIdiotBox> !ohmy | jgoo___ffs
[20:16] <rd1381> is there anybody here that shares their firefox profile between windows and unubut?
[20:16] <Halitech> jgoo___ffs, just a suggestion
[20:16] <mzz> rd1381: no, but consider using weave to sync data between the two
[20:16] <stefg> Pyrophelia: you can still use a 'fake raid' controller card to get more sata ports. The problem with hardware raid controllers is that they are a single point of failure. you can get your raid-set working on any machine with any controller if you use mdadm... try this in 5 years when your controller breaks and no compatible replacemant is available
[20:17] <ejv> Pyrophelia: you can purchase additional sata pci boards, for dirt cheap
[20:17] <ejv> stefg is correct
[20:17] <Kelder> rd1381: only through the xmarks firefox plugin
[20:17] <__theIdiotBox> Kelder: i guess he is expecting something else
[20:17] <Pyrophelia> I don't like this i'm starting to change my mind
[20:18] <enthdegree> rd1381: I used to do that (put it on a seperate partition) but there were too many contradictions between filesystems
[20:18] <ejv> Pyrophelia: don't buy anything. research research research. :)
[20:18] <NoMS_> stefg:  how do you set up a "fake raid" controller card? or at least do you have a site you can reference me to?
[20:18] <mzz> rd1381: if everything isn't careful to not use absolute paths it'll fail weirdly.
[20:18] <Mr_hide> hey, has anyone else been able to get surround sound working on ubuntu jaunty?
[20:18] <mzz> rd1381: from what I've heard firefox itself is pretty ok at that, but extensions may not be.
[20:18] <rd1381> Kelder: i used a guide to do it and it works fine , just one problem .every time i switch between systems firefox ,firefox thinks its a new version of firefox installed and checks for updates , how can i disable that?
[20:19] <ejv> NoMS_: what he most likely means is an additional pci/pci-E sata card with 4/6/8 ports, so you can mount additional block devices, and manage them with MDADM
[20:19] <enthdegree> eg I had set my cache to be in /dev/shm, which is the ram in ubuntu ( I think?) but of course, it means nothing in a regular windows install
[20:19] <ubuntistas> any toefl software for linux?
[20:19] <NoMS_> oh ok...  never heard of fake raid :)
[20:19] <enthdegree> Whenever I run a fullscreen app like Wesnoth, all of my system tray apps mysteriously terminate. I'm running Crunchbang 9.04. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
[20:20] <stefg> NoMS_: fake raid is a term coined towards these Promise or onboard controllers, which still let the CPU do the math. These are geared towards windows, which does not have something like mdadm, so they fake it with a piece of hardware and a driver
[20:20] <jcapinc> I have a question about ssh, is there a proper channel anyone can direct those questions to?
[20:20] <variable> jcapinc, #openssh maybe ?
[20:20] <ortsvorsteher> just ask jcapinc
[20:21] <ejv> Pyrophelia: is this a home server you're planning, small office, enterprise?
[20:21] <__theIdiotBox> ubuntistas: google it....if you cant let me know
[20:21] <variable> +J ?
[20:21] <Pyrophelia> small office
[20:21] <stefg> NoMS_: read abot dmraid
[20:21] <NoMS_> stefg:  I'll have to look into that.. thnx
[20:21] <apoleo12> Ok, when I have a friend over, using my machine and I have hiom on his own account.. and did fast-switching.... but evidently it frozed. and had to reboot... why is that? does anyone had that problem?
[20:21] <Pici> variable: join throttling, more mode information here: http://freenode.net/using_the_network.shtml
[20:21] <jgoo___ffs> Halitech, first, I think that there would be a problem with the setup - i.e., it wouldn't work
[20:21] <jcapinc> I want to know how to run a very big process from ssh on a machine such that when the ssh connection is terminated, the process is still running on the machine
[20:21] <Pyrophelia> we need a raid server to store video's we've edited
[20:21] <ubuntistas> i can't
[20:21] <firecrotch> jcapinc: screen
[20:21] <ejv> Pyrophelia: oh i forgot to mention, that hdparm output, is with heavy layer of disk encryption
[20:22] <Pyrophelia> we have everything on 1TB firewires right now so if one fails we're out a lot of video
[20:22] <variable> Pici, I'm used to +j for that ... maybe its been too long since I admined :|
[20:22] <ejv> Pyrophelia: and it still performs like a champ :)
[20:22] <__theIdiotBox> ubuntistas: wait a min...
[20:22] <variable> * not on freenode
[20:22] <ortsvorsteher> jcapinc: did you try to nohup? read the man page, may it is your solution
[20:22] <ejv> Pyrophelia: what I would do is purchase a 1U rack, for the host, then a 3 or 4U Norco rack for all the drives
[20:22] <variable> I'm attempting to install a ubuntu on a laptop - but the mouse is not moving
[20:23] <ejv> Pyrophelia: connect the 3U/4U rack as a SAN to the host, so if you ever make a change to the host, the drives are untouched
[20:23] <variable> This is my first time using ubuntu (I'm used to freeBSD) so I'm not sure what to try now
[20:23] <ejv> Pyrophelia: this also allows room for expandability
[20:23] <Halitech> jgoo___ffs, ok, if you say so, I just offered it as a suggestion
[20:23] <Pyrophelia> but you don't have anything else running on the server do you?
[20:23] <Pyrophelia> I remember running a software raid with 2 500GB disks. via northbridge, amd 3500+
[20:23] <Pyrophelia> it was fine until I did ANYTHING on the server then HD throughput went to shit
[20:24] <ejv> Pyrophelia: I have some NX sessions going, some sftp, some ssl/tls vsftpd, and a lot of user processes, not cpu intensive jobs atm, no :)
[20:24] <__theIdiotBox> ubuntistas: http://lmgtfy.org/?q=toefl+linux
[20:24] <ejv> Pyrophelia: it's a fileserver so most of the time it's swapping data, that's it's purpose :)
[20:24] <enthdegree> Whenever I run a fullscreen app like Battle for Wesnoth, all of my system tray apps (and perhaps others?) mysteriously terminate. I'm running Crunchbang 9.04. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
[20:25] <heatmzzr> what is the command to mount a hdd in console?
[20:25] <__theIdiotBox> !patience | enthdegree
[20:25] <ejv> Pyrophelia: I'll bigfile from /dev/zero and record the performance for ya, brb
[20:25] <Kelder> heatmzzr /mount
[20:25] <jgoo___ffs> How can I fix the asdf abfh vnc ubuntu / gnome issue?
[20:25] <enthdegree> Ok, thanks. I just assumed nobody saw it. :P
[20:26] <__theIdiotBox> ubuntistas: did you look at that? need more help....
[20:26] <Mr_hide> hey, has anyone else been able to get surround sound working on ubuntu jaunty?
[20:26] <jgoo___ffs> Reproduce: 1) install ubuntu 2) install tightvncserver Expected results: works Problem: doesn't work, asdf is abfh - Since: Apr 2007
[20:26] <isiah> I am learning how to install software on linux without using programs like synaptic. Just stuff like tar and reading the install instructions. The test program I am working with is Xaos. I want to know what is the typical policy about what directory to install programs like this into.
[20:26] <caonima> 哈楼
[20:27] <iraj43> hi
[20:27] <heatmzzr> heatmzzr@heatmzzr-laptop:/media$ mount extra
[20:27] <heatmzzr> mount: can't find extra in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab
[20:27] <caonima> 有中国人么？
[20:27] <ubuntistas>  not yet
[20:27] <__theIdiotBox> isiah: you can define your separate directory to install programs...i use /opt for this purpose
[20:27] <caonima> 伤心
[20:27] <xF|ux> I have my ./network/interfaces set to static for eth0, however at random intervals it decides it wants to set the IP to something else.  I have already moved /etc/dhcp3 to a backup folder, but it's still resetting the eth0 device
[20:27] <theatro> heatmzzr, what is extra ?
[20:27] <__theIdiotBox> caonima: plz use english
[20:27] <heatmzzr> the name of the other drive
[20:27] <caonima> my english is poor
[20:28] <heatmzzr> im just wanting to mount it from a tty screen
[20:28] <danila> caonima, imagine our chinese :)
[20:28] <niko> caonima: using /msg alis list *ubuntu-* should help you to find appropriate channel
[20:28] <__theIdiotBox> isiah: as you are learning all these stuffs i would recommend using some new directory in your home...to play safe
[20:28] <caonima> hehe
[20:28] <fluurp> whats the adress from the network " abjects " ??
[20:28] <theatro> heatmzzr, mount /dev/sda1   <-- put your device node here, try that
[20:29] <anr78> I'm trying to set my uid and gid to what they are in os x, but run into problems as os x has given me gid 20, which ubuntu says "is not unique".
[20:29] <caonima> 你们哪里的干活？
[20:29] <stefg>  !cn
[20:29] <theatro> !ch | caonima
[20:29] <Pyrophelia> caonima: !cn
[20:29] <ubuntistas> not workin help
[20:29] <theatro> ops ch ..
[20:30] <__theIdiotBox> caonima: use this #ubuntu-cn
[20:30] <caonima> 。。
[20:30] <isiah> __theIdiotBox: Ok thank you. Do you think it will have problems with permission? Could the program if stored there access files in user accounts?
[20:30] <caonima> 我喜欢你们，朋友们
[20:30] <caonima> I LOVE UBUNTU
[20:30] <heatmzzr> heatmzzr@heatmzzr-laptop:/media$ mount /dev/sdb
[20:30] <heatmzzr> mount: can't find /dev/sdb in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab
[20:31] <__theIdiotBox> isiah: permisison might be an issue...so better make a directory and then give it full permission using sudo...that should fix the permission problem
[20:31] <ejv> Pyrophelia: here's a smaller server, 6 disk array via mdadm: http://dpaste.com/80208/ - writing from /dev/zero pool to a file, byte size 1 megabyte
[20:31] <shortcircuit> Quick question: Where do I find the pointer size settings in 9.04?  A google search for Ubuntu pointer size says it would be under "Customize Theme"->Pointer, but there's no slider there.
[20:31] <Halitech> jgoo___ffs, have you looked at these instructions? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=191564&highlight=vnc4server
[20:31] <theatro> heatmzzr, /dev/sdbX  where X is a number
[20:31] <alongenemylines> heatmzzr: you need to give it a dir to mount to
[20:31] <jedc> isiah, any program you have could access your user data if you are the one running it
[20:31] <__theIdiotBox> caonima: we all love ubuntu thats y we're here...
[20:31] <caonima> how to fix tar.gz file?
[20:31] <theatro> heatmzzr, fdisk -l /dev/sdb  to find what X you want
[20:32] <jrib> anr78: in debian/ubuntu uid/gid < 1000 are for system uses.  It's probably easier to change your uid/gid in os x to match your ubuntu one
[20:32] <__theIdiotBox> tar zxvf <tar.gz filena.e> : caonima
[20:32] <prefrontal> where is the user file that associates a user name with the account name?
[20:32] <isiah> jedc: Would it be a good idea to create a separate user account to test it?
[20:32] <jrib> prefrontal: /etc/passwd ... why?
[20:32] <prefrontal> so i can change it
[20:32] <prefrontal> tx
[20:32] <stefg> prefrontal: /etc/passwd ... don't you dare touching it ! :-)
[20:32] <bruce927> http://www.pidgin.im/download/ubuntu/ could someone see if the instructions in this page work for them? They keyserver keeps timing out on me
[20:33] <prefrontal> hmm, this account isn't listed there but others are. is there another place?
[20:33] <__theIdiotBox> isiah: you can do that....but i think that is being way too much panicky...but yes it would be better option if you want to quite a lot of messy things...
[20:33] <ejv> Pyrophelia: as you can see, the number of write requests merged per second, that are queued to the device (wrqm/s) is VERY stable across the array
[20:33] <heatmzzr> heatmzzr@heatmzzr-laptop:/media$ sudo fdisk -l /dev/sdb
[20:33] <heatmzzr> Disk /dev/sdb: 120.0 GB,<PHONE_NUMBER>76 bytes
[20:33] <heatmzzr> 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 14593 cylinders
[20:33] <heatmzzr> Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes
[20:33] <heatmzzr> Disk identifier: 0x5d379805
[20:33] <FloodBot2> heatmzzr: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:33] <heatmzzr>    Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System
[20:33] <jrib> prefrontal: use chfn.
[20:33] <pik}> bruce927: yes, worked for me yesterday
[20:33] <prefrontal> jrib thanks
[20:34] <jrib> prefrontal: is the account special in some way?  It should be in /etc/passwd ...
[20:34] <ejv> Pyrophelia: even with heavy cryptographic overhead ;)
[20:34] <isiah> _theIdiotBox: Well my goal is to learn how to do it like a sysadmin would. So I want to make sure it could be usable for multiple users
[20:34] <Halitech> bruce927, why not sudo ap-get install pidgin from the repo?
[20:34] <prefrontal> jrib, i think it is a kerberos name?
[20:35] <jrib> prefrontal: oh, yeah if it's some sort of network setup then I'm not sure
[20:35] <stefg> Pyrophelia: how are you going to serve that space to the clients, BTW? nfs?
[20:35] <ejv> stefg: I'd imagine most small office setups use windows in some way, so I'd be thinking cifs mounts :)
[20:36] <heatmzzr> when i click on places it shows the other hdd, when i click on it it asks for a password... what im asking is how to mount that drive without doing that... from terminal or tty screen
[20:36] <anr78> jrib: true
[20:36] <Bad_Girl> hi!
[20:36] <stefg> ejv: yup.... in that case he'll anyway won't have the problem of mdadm degrading the performance ... network will be the bottleneck
[20:37] <CppIsWeird> when downloading ubuntu server i see options for 64bit and 32bit versions, but when i click on bittorrent i only see amd64 and i386, does this mean there is only a 64bit version for amd-64?
[20:37] <jedc> isiah, i dont know what the preffered directories are for that sort of thing, but i usually but the directory in /usr/local/lib and an executable script in /usr/local/bin
[20:37] <jrib> CppIsWeird: amd64 is just what the architecture it is called.  You can use it on intel
[20:37] <ejv> stefg: yea my statistics are basically to prove the point that even with a cheap cpu, software managed raid, and slow 100mbit network, mdadm is viable.
[20:37] <__theIdiotBox> hi: Bad_Girl
[20:37] <ejv> stefg: (and stable) lol
[20:37] <dr3mro> did any one here tried ubuntu 9.04 on lenovo ideapad s10
[20:38] <CppIsWeird> jrib, orly, then how come when i try to install the amd64 version on my xeon server it says i have the wrong architecture.
[20:38] <Alfred_Nonymous> hello guys
[20:38] <stefg> dr3mro: i have 3 s10e's running as mobile thin clients at my work
[20:38] <__theIdiotBox> hello: Alfred_Nonymous
[20:38] <Alfred_Nonymous> I have a (I think quite simple) question
[20:38] <bruce927> thanks halitech, but the keyserver finally responded
[20:38] <ejv> dr3mro: they are typical intel based machines, should work fine using ubuntu 9.04
[20:39] <__theIdiotBox> don't ask to ask, just ask: Alfred_Nonymous
[20:39] <Alfred_Nonymous> okay
[20:39] <daryl__> CppIsWeird, are you sure you have the 64bit versions?
[20:39] <Alfred_Nonymous> I have a linux server (ubuntu server edition)
[20:40] <Alfred_Nonymous> and I just can't mount my sandisk cruzer micro
[20:40] <isiah> _theIdiotBox: Ok reading the Install files it says that make command will place all binary files in home, so I am changing this to /opt
[20:40] <Alfred_Nonymous> I tried all SDA, SDB, SDC and SDD's
[20:40] <Alfred_Nonymous> but none of them get recognized as FAT
[20:40] <jrib> CppIsWeird: what processor exactly?
[20:40] <ortsvorsteher> !enter | Alfred_Nonymous
[20:40] <stefg> Alfred_Nonymous: read dmesg
[20:40] <__theIdiotBox> do you have that drive right now: Alfred_Nonymous
[20:41] <Alfred_Nonymous> _theIdiotBox: yes
[20:41] <x3017> exit
[20:41] <ejv> CppIsWeird: cat /proc/cpuinfo | grep "model name"
[20:41] <ivalladt> how do I know if my CPU can run Ubuntu x64?
[20:41] <kkaji`>  If you have some time, please just click on this link -  http://www.lostworlds.lv/go.php?1139723800  Thanks ;)
[20:41] <Halitech> Alfred_Nonymous, did you install hal and udev?
[20:41] <__theIdiotBox> Alfred_Nonymous: plug that and run this command : dmesg|tail  and then put the output @pastebin.ubuntu.com
[20:41] <jrib> CppIsWeird: here's the blurb from the amd64 version: Choose this to take full advantage of computers based on the AMD64 or EM64T architecture (e.g., Athlon64, Opteron, EM64T Xeon, Core 2).
[20:42] <Alfred_Nonymous> BRB, plugging in my server, I moved it, a few times
[20:42] <Alfred_Nonymous> btw, other usb sticks do work
[20:42] <Alfred_Nonymous> also, why the hell do I keep getting #ubuntu :Please register with services and use the IDENTIFY command (/msg nickserv help) to speak in this channel
[20:43] <ejv> Alfred_Nonymous: because you're not registered/haven't identified
[20:43] <Alfred_Nonymous> I am registered and identified
[20:43] <stefg> !register | Alfred_Nonymous
[20:43] <__theIdiotBox> you have register your nick : Alfred_Nonymous
[20:43] <Alfred_Nonymous> I did trough nickserv
[20:43] <ejv> you're not
[20:43] <ejv> do it again dude
[20:43] <ejv> :)
[20:43] <Alfred_Nonymous> seriously?
[20:44] <lstarnes> ejv: that is not necessary
[20:44] <__theIdiotBox> yeh: Alfred_Nonymous
[20:44] <Alfred_Nonymous> You are already logged in as Alfred_Nonymous.
[20:44] <lstarnes> Alfred_Nonymous: if you know that you are registered and identified, just ignore the message
[20:44] <kkaji`>  If you have some time, please just click on this link -  http://www.lostworlds.lv/go.php?1139723800  Thanks ;)
[20:44] <lstarnes> Alfred_Nonymous: wait, you aren't fully registered
[20:44] <Alfred_Nonymous> freenode Nickname Registration
[20:44] <Alfred_Nonymous>
[20:44] <Alfred_Nonymous> 	Inbox		X
[20:44] <Alfred_Nonymous>
[20:44] <Alfred_Nonymous> Reply to all
[20:44] <ejv> when i whois myself i see: "is identified to services"
[20:44] <FloodBot2> Alfred_Nonymous: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:44] <Alfred_Nonymous> Forward
[20:44] <lstarnes> Alfred_Nonymous: please check your email for the verification code
[20:44] <ejv> i don't see "is identified to services" with his username
[20:44] <Pici> !ot
[20:44] <GPL> which firewall does ubuntu uses, and how can i get access to it ?
[20:45] <lstarnes> ejv: his nick hasn't been verified
[20:45] <lstarnes> GPL: iptables or ufw
[20:45] <ejv> lstarnes: well there ya go
[20:45] <lstarnes> GPL: both may be accessed through the terminal
[20:45] <ejv> lol
[20:45] <GPL> lstarnes: thanks
[20:45] <Alfred_Nonymous> Thank you for registering your nickname on the freenode IRC network!
[20:45] <Alfred_Nonymous> Thank you for your interest in the freenode IRC network.
[20:45] <Alfred_Nonymous> This email was sent due to a command from<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[20:45] <ejv> any way to ignore FloodBot(N)
[20:45] <Alfred_Nonymous> at Thu, 13 Aug 2009 19:39:02 +0000.
[20:45] <Pici> Alfred_Nonymous: stop
[20:45] <Alfred_Nonymous> If this message is spam, please contact<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[20:45] <lstarnes> Alfred_Nonymous: do not paste the email!
[20:45] <Alfred_Nonymous> with a full copy.
[20:46] <lstarnes> Alfred_Nonymous: just do the "/msg NickServ VERIFY REGISTER Alfred_Nonymous random-string" part
[20:46] <Pici> Alfred_Nonymous: This is not a regitration support channel, please ask in #freenode if you are having issues registering
[20:46] <satya2881988>  how can i automatically mount all the drives in my computer on system startup
[20:47] <__theIdiotBox> why so much banning/unbanning going on?
[20:47] <__theIdiotBox> satya2881988: use fstab
[20:47] <variable> I'm attempting to install a ubuntu on a laptop - but the mouse is not moving. This is my first time using ubuntu (I'm used to freeBSD) so I'm not sure what to try now;
[20:47] <ejv> better yet, any way to ignore FloodBot(N) or ignore channel mode/ban adjustments via irssi? :)
[20:47] <variable> google fails to provide useful information
[20:47] <dwn> can I mount my usb drive for ubuntu live rootfs to free more ram? if yes how
[20:47] <__theIdiotBox> yes: dwn
[20:47] <variable> ejv, I don't rememember the command right now but I know its possible to ignore channel info - man irssi
[20:48] <SealedWithAKiss> When I attempt to manually restart Tor via the terminal using the command /etc/init.d/tor restart I am asked for my SU password. I enter what I believe to be my SU password, although I can't be 100% sure, and it's saying that it's incorrect. When I run sudo things are fine. How come?
[20:48] <lstarnes> variable: not entirely
[20:48] <lstarnes> ejv: see /help ignore
[20:48] <joaopinto> variable, can you use the keys is just really the mouse which does not move  ?
[20:48] <lstarnes> SealedWithAKiss: sudo and su are not the same
[20:48] <dwn> __theIdiotBox: I'm guessing it's an option when you boot the session from cd?
[20:48] <lstarnes> SealedWithAKiss: use sudo -i instead of su
[20:48] <variable> joaopinto, I can't test the keys as the pointer isn't on anything clickable
[20:48] <lstarnes> SealedWithAKiss: or sudo -i -u user instead of su user
[20:48] <__theIdiotBox> i guess so: dwn
[20:48] <unop> SealedWithAKiss, su prompts for root's password, sudo for yours
[20:48] <joaopinto> variable, try: CTRL-ALT-F1 to swithc to a text console
[20:48] <dwn> __theIdiotBox: I've tried googling but could find it, any idea how it's done? any link would help
[20:48] <variable> hang on
[20:48] <SealedWithAKiss> lstarnes, they give you them same rights on the machine though right? Root privs?
[20:49] <joaopinto> variable, ALT-F2 should also show a run window
[20:49] <ejv> lstarnes: well i think if i can figure out channel mode ignore, i have no reason to ignore flood bot, even with floodbot ignored, it'll still show me mode/ban changes lol
[20:49] <Alfred_Nonymous> using DMESG I only get wlan0
[20:49] <__theIdiotBox> okey...wait a min: dwn
[20:49] <satya2881988> # /etc/fstab: static file system information.
[20:49] <satya2881988> #
[20:49] <satya2881988> # Use 'vol_id --uuid' to print the universally unique identifier for a
[20:49] <satya2881988> # device; this may be used with UUID= as a more robust way to name devices
[20:49] <satya2881988> # that works even if disks are added and removed. See fstab(5).
[20:49] <satya2881988> #
[20:49] <joaopinto> variable, CTRL-ALT-F6 to get back to the graphical window
[20:49] <satya2881988> # <file system> <mount point>   <type>  <options>       <dump>  <pass>
[20:49] <satya2881988> proc            /proc           proc    defaults        0       0
[20:49] <satya2881988> # / was on /dev/sda8 during installation
[20:49] <satya2881988> UUID=7239d6bb-806b-4ae2-9a8d-a3fff5f76bf1 /               ext4    relatime,errors=remount-ro 0       1
[20:49] <SealedWithAKiss> lstarnes, why does Tor need the root password to restart?
[20:49] <satya2881988> # swap was on /dev/sda4 during installation
[20:49] <satya2881988> UUID=a0308092-a4dd-4e9a-b56d-88392f830951 none            swap    sw              0       0
[20:49] <dwn> lol
[20:49] <satya2881988> # swap was on /dev/sda7 during installation
[20:49] <lstarnes> SealedWithAKiss: I think so
[20:49] <__theIdiotBox> satya2881988: plz use pastebin instead of spamming here
[20:49] <dwn> satya2881988: use pastebin
[20:49] <lstarnes> SealedWithAKiss: tor requires root access for certain operations
[20:49] <Alfred_Nonymous> oh, whoops
[20:49] <ejv> what is with the pasting here today, holy crap
[20:49] <variable> joaopinto, ttyv1 --> "Please wait.. Loading"; ttyv2 --> terminal
[20:49] <Alfred_Nonymous> I just found the problem
[20:49] <variable> should I restart moused ?
[20:50] <ejv> !irc-etiquette | EVERYONE
[20:50] <ejv> FAIL
[20:50] <__theIdiotBox> ejv: seems a lot of new guys unaware of pastebin are hanging around, :-)
[20:50] <SealedWithAKiss> lstarnes, it can get that by taking the password for my account. Gives the same rights. I don't know...I'll try su -i
[20:50] <lstarnes> SealedWithAKiss: sudo -i, not su -i
[20:50] <__theIdiotBox> what is the problem: Alfred_Nonymous
[20:50] <ejv> good think im not in charge, i'd gline everyone, no mercy
[20:50] <ejv> :)
[20:50] <ejv> s/think/thing
[20:50] <variable> joaopinto, what debug info do you need ?
[20:51] <Alfred_Nonymous> the problem is the stick emulates a cd drive
[20:51] <lstarnes> SealedWithAKiss: sudo and su are two entirely different systems. The only similarity is that they run things as other users
[20:51] <Alfred_Nonymous> disabling that from windows solves that problem
[20:51] <stefg> variable: there is no moused... what hardware are we dealing with here? are you using X or console?
[20:51] <dwn> __theIdiotBox: any keywords that I could google? I tired things like "mounting root fs" or "usb as root fs ubuntu live" but haven't found anything
[20:51] <satya2881988> how can i change fstab so that my comp drives autometically mount on startup
[20:51] <__theIdiotBox> cool: Alfred_Nonymous
[20:51] <Alfred_Nonymous> and now I can just mount it using sdb1
[20:51] <joaopinto> variable, is it a usb mouse ?
[20:51] <dwn> __theIdiotBox: any info would help, I'm guessing you done it before ;p
[20:51] <variable> joaopinto, stefg, attemping to install ubuntu on a laptop
[20:52] <variable> the installer uses X
[20:52] <__theIdiotBox> did it long way back: dwn
[20:52] <joaopinto> variable, you can use the alternate cd and install using text
[20:52] <SealedWithAKiss> lstarnes, I can't use sudo -i it's saying /etc/init.d/tor not found now. When I just run '/etc/init.d/tor restart' the terminal skips and newline and reads: Password:
[20:52] <dwn> __theIdiotBox: ok well at least I know it's possible
[20:52] <variable> joaopinto, anything I could do to fix the mouse ?
[20:52] <lstarnes> SealedWithAKiss: remove the -i
[20:52] <joaopinto> variable, you could try to figure why is it not detected
[20:52] <Alfred_Nonymous> I have one other problem on my laptop, but I think that's a hardware problem
[20:53] <variable> joaopinto, I'd like to go that route - but I'm not sure where to start on ubuntu
[20:53] <stefg> variable: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticsTouchpad#shmconfig could help
[20:53] <joaopinto> variable, is it an usb mouse ?
[20:53] <variable> joaopinto, its a touchpad
[20:53] <joaopinto> oh, no idea what it's expected to be identified :\
[20:54] <Cpudan80> OK guys
[20:54] <Cpudan80> I oops
[20:54] <Cpudan80> wrong channel
[20:54] <__theIdiotBox> yes even i'm googling and trying to recollect : dwn
[20:54] <joaopinto> variable, you did some research on google for your laptop mobile and linux right ?
[20:54] <variable> joaopinto, yep
[20:54] <joaopinto> since your problem is hw specific :\
[20:54] <__theIdiotBox> okey: Cpudan80
[20:54] <joaopinto> variable, what is your laptop model ?
[20:54] <Freeman_> hi guys
[20:54] <__theIdiotBox> hello: Freeman_
[20:55] <genesimmons> anyone know how to setup snmp client on ubuntu 9.04 for monitoring with cacti
[20:55] <variable> joaopinto, lenovo G530
[20:55] <MindSpark> hi, I did a very stupid mistake which is removing the python2.6 file from /usr/bin/.Now most apps won't work. Can anyone help me on how to get it back ?
[20:55] <satya2881988> how can i change fstab so that my comp drives autometically mount on startup
[20:55] <ejv> MindSpark: try reinstalling?
[20:55] <Freeman_> I have a problem I want to run a Steam update over ssh with my laptop but everytime when I quit with putty the job on steam also stops
[20:55] <MOUD> Hey all
[20:55] <ceil420> man fstab
[20:56] <Freeman_> what I could do against that problem
[20:56] <ceil420> man mount
[20:56] <MindSpark> ejv, how do I do that from commandline ?
[20:56] <ceil420> man pages in general are a great help
[20:56] <ejv> MindSpark: try reinstalling python*
[20:56] <stefg> variable: for a function test you can run sudo cat /dev/input/mice , move the finger over the touchpad an see, if you get some console output
[20:56] <variable> let me do that now - hang on
[20:56] <ejv> MindSpark: sudo aptitude remove python && aptitude install python
[20:56] <ortsvorsteher> Freeman_: did you try start your process with nohup in front? man nohup
[20:57] <__theIdiotBox> Freeman_: make it run in the background...just append a & and nohup...thats it
[20:57] <Luisito> #ubuntu-es
[20:57] <variable> stefg, no output on mice move or mouse-click
[20:57] <Freeman_> no thats the problem it does not work
[20:57] <Freeman_> steam stops :-(
[20:57] <__theIdiotBox> Luisito: #ubuntu-en
[20:58] <__theIdiotBox> use nohup < command to run steam> & : Freeman_
[20:58] <Freeman_> I have tried it when I go on logout or exit in putty the steam program on my linux server stops
[20:58] <Freeman_> nohup ./steam &
[20:58] <Freeman_> like this?
[20:58] <__theIdiotBox> using nohup assures it;ll keep running even if you logout from the sys: Freeman_
[20:58] <Freeman_> ok I try again
[20:58] <__theIdiotBox> yes that is enough: Freeman_
[20:59] <stefg> variable: alright... so touchpad isn't sending data. are hardware issues ruled out (usually micer and touchpads just work, at least partially)
[20:59] <MOUD> how can I make compiz to show on my Applications list?
[20:59] <jgoo___ffs> is a vnc connection resumable? i..e if I shutdown my laptop now, can I reconnect to this display (and stop using overloaded words, ffs)
[20:59] <variable> stefg, this is a new computer; the mice worked on the initial windows boot
[20:59] <stefg> variable: what computer is that?
[20:59] <__theIdiotBox> install compiz-config-manager: MOUD
[21:00] <variable> Steffy, lenovo G530
[21:00] <MOUD> __theIdiotBox: thanks
[21:00] <Freeman_> no it does not work :-(
[21:00] <__theIdiotBox> MOUD: u're welcome
[21:00] <Freeman_> that is weird
[21:00] <__theIdiotBox> it shud: Freeman_
[21:00] <Freeman_> shit damn do not understand that
[21:01] <VCoolio> MOUD: compizconfig-settings-manager that is
[21:01] <__theIdiotBox> what is the message you're getting: Freeman_
[21:01] <ortsvorsteher> !language | freeman_
[21:01] <__theIdiotBox> VCoolio: yeh thats right...thatst eh one i was talking about
[21:01] <xlq> Is there *somewhere* I can get libasound_module_pcm_jack.so? The Ubuntu package maintainers kindly neglected it.
[21:01] <stefg> variable: that should just work... but i'm reading that there's a sensor switch to turn the touchpad off on that machine
[21:02] <__theIdiotBox> xlq: check/google in ubuntu package listing
[21:02] <stefg> variable: it'S probybly just switched off (or some acpi/firmaware setting disabled it)
[21:02] <dbugger> Hello guys! Im thinking of starting a new app project and I was wondering, what is the slickest (free) GUI toolkit out there? I wish I could use WPF... :(
[21:02] <xlq> __theIdiotBox: there's nothing in the main Ubuntu packages :(
[21:02] <variable> stefg, I see it: the icon looks like a broadcast icon. I thought that was for the built-in wireless card :|
[21:03] <variable> dbugger, allegro and FLTK are really easy to use
[21:03] <variable> but it depends on what kind of project
[21:03] <scootles> Can someone here help me? I'm trying to crack a WEP encryption and I have a question
[21:03] <dbugger> variable, thanks, but im not going for "easy" rather than good looking
[21:03] <dbugger> I want to make an IRC client
[21:03] <__theIdiotBox> xlq: googling dint help either?
[21:03] <tread> newbie question: is there a way for me a see a list of all devices connected to my computer,  not just mounted ones?
[21:03] <spO> isw there any other keyserver besides keyserver.ubuntu.com?
[21:04] <variable> scootles, don't ask to ask; just ask
[21:04] <variable> dbugger, FLTK; QT; GTK
[21:04] <xlq> __theIdiotBox: indeed
[21:04] <variable> there might be others
[21:04] <__theIdiotBox> run lshw: tread
[21:04] <FloodBot1> variable: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:04] <dbugger> variable, which would you say looks better?
[21:04] <__theIdiotBox> okey, let me google it : xlq
[21:04] <variable> dbugger, they are all themeable - although I'd say don't use FLTK if you want supreme customizability
[21:05] <scootles> variable, I'm new to cracking wep encryption, and I'm finding that some WiFi cards just can't do it and I'm trying to find out if mine(Realtek RTL8192E) can do it.
[21:05] <spO> is there another keyserver besides keyserver.ubuntu.com ?
[21:05] <xlq> spO: there are loads
[21:05] <dbugger> I guess in the end with linux it all comes down to Qt or GTK
[21:05] <isiah> it worked! Haha victory is mine!
[21:06] <xlq> dbugger: and wx, tk and various others...
[21:06] <__theIdiotBox> what worked? isiah
[21:06] <tread> __theIdiotBox, well that will show me that I have a USB port, but i'm trying to figure out why my USB drive isn't being recognized (I plug it in, nothing happens.. not sure if or how it's formatted, but i don't want to lose data without knowing what's on it)
[21:06] <xlq> dbugger: and fltk
[21:06] <variable> dbugger, well allegro is cross-platform - but its for game programming
[21:06] <dbugger> xlq, but what im asking is (and I know this goes for opinions) which one looks better
[21:06] <variable> dbugger, and there are others - I only mention the ones I used
[21:06] <xlq> dbugger: both Qt and GTK+ are completely themeable
[21:07] <variable> dbugger, google them; look at screen shots; choose for yourself
[21:07] <__theIdiotBox> tread: put to pastebin > dmesg|tail
[21:07] <isiah> _theIdiotBox: the program. I am a little confused about why it installed some stuff in my /usr/local/bin
[21:07] <xlq> dbugger: are you writing GUI apps?
[21:07] <dbugger> xlq, yeahp
[21:07] <xlq> dbugger: looks really isn't a concern.
[21:07] <dbugger> I've been programming recently with windows forms and I hate it so much now
[21:07] <spO> do any of you know any other keyserver besides keyserver.ubuntu.com ?
[21:07] <scootles> I'm new to cracking wep encryption, and I'm finding that some WiFi cards just can't do it and I'm trying to find out if mine(Realtek RTL8192E) can do it.
[21:08] <xlq> dbugger: GTK+ is written in C, Qt is C++. They have quite different paradigms. GTK+ has C++ bindings (called gtkmm) which are more C++-ish than Qt is.
[21:08] <__theIdiotBox> xlq: googling says that file was missingin hardy as well...let me google a bit more
[21:08] <scootles> I'm new to cracking wep encryption, and I'm finding that some WiFi cards just can't do it and I'm trying to find out if mine(Realtek RTL8192E) can do it. Can anyone help me?
[21:08] <kekeke> is there any way to get the default list of repositories for ubuntu 9.04 jaunty?
[21:08] <xlq> dbugger: it's much more important to like the API than to worry about how they might look.
[21:08] <Some_Person> I have 2 ubuntu machines and an ethernet cable. How can I get files from one to the other?
[21:08] <dbugger> I have to disagree. I think the main problem of linux is that it's too ugly. That's why we dont get more users.
[21:08] <__theIdiotBox> Some_Person: cross connecting through cross-cabling
[21:08] <dbugger> Anyway, I was planing of writing it either in Mono or Phyton
[21:08] <xlq> Some_Person: You need a special ethernet cable called a crossover cable, unless one of your computers' ethernet ports has auto-crossover.
[21:09] <Some_Person> xlq: Well I don't have that
[21:09] <tread> __theIdiotBox, http://pastebin.com/d26373eb5
[21:09] <stefg> Some_Person: so you have smart NIC's that dont need a crossover cable i suppose?
[21:09] <Some_Person> stefg: Nope
[21:09] <__theIdiotBox> tread: okey let me see that..wait a min
[21:09] <xlq> Some_Person: you might, they're getting more and more common
[21:09] <Some_Person> I have a cheap laptop form last year and an old desktop from 2002
[21:09] <lexo_great> hello
[21:09] <Talha> I'm a little confused that "/set irc_hide_version on" doesn't work on "xchat 2.8.6 Ubuntu".
[21:09] <ortsvorsteher> !hello | lexo_great
[21:10] <Talha> Any thoughts?
[21:10] <VCoolio> kekeke: open /etc/apt/sources.list and skip what you added yourself (that will be the lower part)
[21:10] <stefg> Some_Person: so first of all you'll have to check if the leds go on on the nic if you plu gin the cable.... if not you have no physical connection
[21:10] <variable> stefg, turning it on and rebooting fails to fix it
[21:10] <lexo_great> hi
[21:10] <Some_Person> stefg: The laptop has no lights
[21:10] <kekeke> VCoolio i didn't add anything, when i got this machine it had a custom repos list :(
[21:10] <stefg> variable: checked bios?
[21:10] <lexo_great> hello
[21:10] <dbugger> xlq, what does Google Chromium use?
[21:10] <__theIdiotBox> tread: did you ran the command right after plugging the usb stick?
[21:11] <__theIdiotBox> lexo_great: hi
[21:11] <firecrotch> Some_Person: just plug the cable into both computers, and do tail /var/log/dmesg
[21:11] <xlq> dbugger: no clue
[21:11] <tread> __theIdiotBox, yes, I even unplugged it and plugged it back in just to get a fresh tail to paste for you.
[21:11] <stefg> Some_Person: do the boxes have some IP set already ?
[21:11] <variable> stefg, no option to disable
[21:11] <spO> what alternative keyserver do you guys use instead of keyserver.ubuntu.com ?
[21:11] <Some_Person> stefg: The laptop is connected to the internet via wifi.
[21:12] <Some_Person> stefg: Desktop has no connection
[21:12] <__theIdiotBox> okey, but i dont see anything that mentions the stick: tread
[21:12] <Some_Person> stefg: I have not set up anything in regards to ethernet
[21:12] <satya2881988> anyone there?
[21:12] <ortsvorsteher> !anyone | satya2881988
[21:12] <xlq> __theIdiotBox: I'll try compiling from source
[21:12] <stefg> Some_Person: so run ifconfig on both machines and see what (if any) IP they got
[21:12] <tread> __theIdiotBox, it's a Logitech.. the last lilne of the tail I gave you says "Logitech USB Receiver"
[21:12] <__theIdiotBox> xlq: may be you need to pull it off from some rpm?
[21:13]  * variable tries with an external mouse
[21:13] <xlq> stefg: surely that won't work, unless one of them is magically running a dhcp server..
[21:13] <__theIdiotBox> tread: okey ....lemme c that
[21:13] <Some_Person> stefg: neither has an IP on ethernet
[21:13] <xlq> __theIdiotBox: an rpm? In Ubuntu?!
[21:13] <stefg> xlq: i know... :-)
[21:13] <__theIdiotBox> xlq: use alien to convert that to .deb and then use it directly or pull off whatever file you want
[21:14] <xlq> __theIdiotBox: err, no way
[21:14] <variable> nope
[21:14] <satya2881988>  how can i change fstab so that my comp drives autometically mount on startup
[21:14] <xlq> __theIdiotBox: this is an ALSA module we're talking about, not some script.
[21:14] <variable> thanks all
[21:14] <Guest68457> ahola busco amigos
[21:14] <__theIdiotBox> some .so is missing , right?: xlq
[21:14] <xlq> __theIdiotBox: yeah
[21:14] <xlq> I'm going to try compiling from source.
[21:14] <tread> __theIdiotBox, there's nothing but what I already showed you.  but it does say "Logitech USB Receiver" on the pastebin I already showed you.
[21:15] <xlq> __theIdiotBox: well, thanks for helping so far anyway
[21:15] <kekeke> is there any way to get the default list of repositories for ubuntu 9.04 jaunty?
[21:15] <VCoolio> kekeke: by default only two repos are enabled: jaunty main and jaunty-updates main; the universe, multiverse, backports need to be enabled by the user but are already in sources.list but commented out; there are also repos with 'security' in it, about them I don't know
[21:15] <kekeke> :o
[21:15] <kekeke> ;p;
[21:15] <kekeke> lol
[21:15] <FloodBot1> kekeke: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:15] <__theIdiotBox> u're welcome: xlq
[21:15] <xlq> __theIdiotBox: well, I'll be honest here, I actually tried nicking Debian's version :D
[21:15] <xlq> __theIdiotBox: it half worked, but then got stuck.
[21:15] <satya2881988>  how can i change fstab so that my disk drives automatically mount on start up
[21:16] <stefg> Some_Person: sou you have to assign an IP on the same subnet to both machines ... try <IP_ADDRESS> for one, and <IP_ADDRESS> for the other
[21:16] <__theIdiotBox> ohh no : xlq
[21:16] <kekeke> ok VCoolio thanks
[21:16] <Guest68457> hello
[21:16] <satya2881988> plz help me how can i change fstab so that my disk drives automatically mount on start up
[21:16] <__theIdiotBox> then better put it on launchpad: xlq
[21:16] <Some_Person> stefg: How do I do that? The laptop is running Jaunty, and the desktop is running the one with the duck as the default wallpaper
[21:17] <xlq> Some_Person: with the Ethernet cable between the two computers, does "ifconfig" show "NO CARRIER"?
[21:17] <VCoolio> satya2881988: "/dev/something /media/mountpoint <type, eg ntfs-3g> defaults,user 0 0"
[21:17] <__theIdiotBox> www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html : satya2881988
[21:17] <Some_Person> xlq: No
[21:17] <will> how do i install Dust-extras-0.3.tar.gz and Dust-0.3.tar.gz
[21:17] <kingmanor> is there a command line battery meter for laptops?
[21:17] <xlq> Some_Person: that's good
[21:17] <__theIdiotBox> what do you need that? kingmanor
[21:17] <xlq> Some_Person: now, you can assign IP addresses to the interfaces, and then set up some routes
[21:17] <Some_Person> xlq: How?
[21:17] <xlq> Some_Person: yeah, that's the problem though :P
[21:17] <kingmanor> i have ubuntu server running on an old laptop
[21:18] <__theIdiotBox> okey guys...m moving out....c ya
[21:18] <Some_Person> xlq: The laptop is running Jaunty, and the desktop is running the one with the duck as the default wallpaper
[21:18] <VCoolio> will: those are themes? drag and drop in the appearance window
[21:18] <xlq> Some_Person: it's a heron, and it's Hardy.
[21:18] <stevieman> Is there a easy to follow guide on how to format a drive using xfs? Google isn't returning anything useful
[21:18] <teimu> can anyone recommend a terminal irc client? i'd like it to be like bitchx if at all possible (which doesn't seem to work anymore).
[21:18] <stefg> Some_Person: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NetworkManager0.7#Adding%20Wired%20connections
[21:18] <kingmanor> nvm i found it
[21:18] <xlq> teimu: irssi seems popular these days
[21:18] <Dunge> I started two compilation at once (one in gterm, another in anjuta). Gnome and all inputs completly froze, I can't select a window, the time clock froze, I can't press ctrl+alt+x to change tty... but HD is flashing fast and seems working... any way I can pause something so I get some response?
[21:19] <stevieman> I've tried mkfs -t vfs /dev/sdb but I get some message about using -f option, which doesn't seem to do anything
[21:19] <teimu> xlq, thanks for the tip. ill check that out
[21:19] <Some_Person> xlq: No it's not hardy
[21:19] <xlq> Some_Person: oh, well, whatever. It doesn't matter.
[21:19] <stevieman> whoops that should be xfs not vfs
[21:20] <geirha> stevieman: mkfs.xfs /dev/sdb
[21:20] <xlq> Some_Person: are either of these computers connected to the Internet?
[21:20] <stefg> Some_Person: after you gave your ubuntu box a fixed IP you can then try to ping it from the other box... if that fails, your cable does't work
[21:20] <will> VCoolio, i get the message can not move direvtory over directory when i do that
[21:20] <Some_Person> xlq: The laptop is, via wifi
[21:20] <xlq> Some_Person: I see.
[21:20] <CountDown> I'm looking for a free font that supports real small caps on Ubuntu.  Any suggestions?
[21:20] <VCoolio> will: then there is already a folder Dust, which makes sense, Dust is default, check /usr/share/themes
[21:20] <_Adam__> Hello, any tips for running ubuntu from a USB pen drive?
[21:20] <xlq> Some_Person: I'd probably do something like: "ip addr add <IP_ADDRESS> dev eth0" on the laptop, and "ip addr add <IP_ADDRESS> dev eth0" on the desktop.
[21:21] <VCoolio> will: extract the tars you have and copy the contents to there
[21:21] <xlq> Some_Person: then I'd set up a route, I think that's something like "route add <IP_ADDRESS> dev eth0" on the laptop
[21:21] <CountDown> Also, anyone know how Ubuntu works on the new Dell Adamo?
[21:21] <Some_Person> xlq: Will this conflict with my existing network connection on the laptop?
[21:21] <xlq> and "route add <IP_ADDRESS> dev eth0" on the desktop
[21:21] <stevieman> geirha: well look at that, apparently I somehow got it to work cause mkfs.xfs is telling me the drive is already formatted with xfs, huh, weird
[21:21] <VCoolio> will: if necessary that is
[21:21] <xlq> Some_Person: if I've got it right, it won't, but I could have got it wrong ;)
[21:21] <KittyBoots> I am running ubuntu 9.04, when I make flash video full screen it hesitates, how to I fix this?
[21:21] <anr78> !hfs
[21:21] <xlq> Some_Person: if the worst comes to the worst, you can reboot.
[21:21] <stevieman> geirha: Thanks anyways ;)
[21:21] <Some_Person> xlq: ok, i'll try it
[21:22] <xlq> KittyBoots: you can't
[21:22] <Some_Person> i should run these with sudo, right?
[21:22] <xlq> KittyBoots: alternatively you can use youtube-dl or flashgot to download the video and play it with a proper media player, for example mplayer
[21:22] <xlq> Some_Person: yes
[21:22] <_Adam__> Hello, any tips for running ubuntu from a USB pen drive, but /home is on HDD
[21:23] <VCoolio> KittyBoots: "it hesitates" <-- what do you mean? it plays badly or not at all?
[21:23] <KittyBoots> VCoolio: it plays but very terrible
[21:24] <will> when i extract dust am d drag and drop i get the same error message
[21:24] <buch> xlq: sad but true. but id dont get it - Mac OS can handle it but why cant linux with firefox?
[21:24] <xlq> buch: is it the same version of libflashplayer? I don't know. Adobe's fault.
[21:24] <buch> Well i do know the adobe is slacking with their updates
[21:24] <Some_Person> xlq: on the last command, desktop says "add: Unknown host"
[21:24] <xlq> Some_Person: sorry, what command was that?
[21:24] <anr78> Berzerker: do you have a line in your /etc/fstab for mounting your osx partition?
[21:24] <DoomHack2009> hello
[21:24] <Some_Person> oh nvm typed it wrong
[21:25] <VCoolio> KittyBoots: ok then I quit, I'm no flash guru and besides I hate it; installing the adobe flash plugin from their site may help according to several in this room
[21:25] <Some_Person> xlq: Ok, now what?
[21:25] <hmm1233> hi. how can I make a partition mountpoint /boot?
[21:25] <xlq> Some_Person: on the desktop, type "ping <IP_ADDRESS>"
[21:25] <stefg> KittyBoots: what does lspci | grep VGA tell you ?
[21:25] <Some_Person> xlq: It's working
[21:25] <trainer> Hi I am getting no sound on my Dell Vostro A90 with Ubuntu NBR 9.04, I followed the fix detailed here with no success: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/368629
[21:25] <detrate-> anyone in there running an nvidia card that supports opengl 3?
[21:26] <xlq> Some_Person: yay!
[21:26] <stefg> !intelhda | trainer
[21:26] <will> i just now fixed my flash problem all i had to do was install restricted extras package
[21:26] <insanitybin> Hello, I have a problem where the sound only comes out of my speakers and never out of my headset. In gnome-volume-control, I have my headset selected. In alsamixer, it also has my headset selected. I don't know how to fix this.
[21:26] <ninjaslim> i have a pc running Ubuntu and a MacBook Pro, i have both connected to each other via ethernet cable as i want Ubuntu to use the Mac's internet connection, i have it setup on the Mac side, but can't get configuration right on the Ubuntu side, it connects and then disconnects intermittently
[21:26] <netsurf3> hi can anyone help me, on resume from suspend the shutdown dialog strobes until i kill hal-input
[21:26] <Some_Person> xlq: Now how do I use that to send files from the desktop to the laptop?
[21:26] <bdelin881> i would like to save the ls information of a directory a file (print to file), what is the command for that again?
[21:26] <bdelin881> ^[SIMPLE Question]
[21:26] <xlq> Some_Person: now, you have a network connection between the two computers. So, you can transfer files however you would normally.
[21:26] <xlq> Some_Person: the simplest way I find is to run a small HTTP server (like thttpd)
[21:26] <KittyBoots> stefg: 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Mobile 945GM/GMS, 943/940GML Express Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 03)
[21:26] <VCoolio> bdelin881: >
[21:26] <_Adam__> Hello, any tips for running ubuntu from a USB pen drive, but /home is on HDD? nope?
[21:27] <xlq> Some_Person: or alternatively you could use samba.
[21:27] <xlq> Some_Person: or, for one file at a time, you could use netcat!
[21:27] <mylogic> anyone else notice that empathy's spellcheck is horrible?
[21:27] <VCoolio> bdelin881: ls /blah > /path/file
[21:27] <bdelin881> VCoolio: i don't think it all came through what you were typing
[21:27] <stefg> KittyBoots: i see, you're suffering from bad intel video performance in jaunty ... http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1130582
[21:27] <xlq> Some_Person: it's also not too difficult to now connect the desktop to the Internet through the laptop.
[21:27] <Some_Person> xlq: Which is easiest/fastest?
[21:27] <bdelin881> VCoolio: oh there it is, thanks man
[21:28] <dutchie> http://pastebin.com/f538abf1 is this likely to be a hardware failure? (dmesg | tail)
[21:28] <xlq> Some_Person: can you describe in more detail what you want to do? Then I can recommend a way.
[21:28] <ninjaslim> i have a pc running Ubuntu and a MacBook Pro, i have both connected to each other via ethernet cable as i want Ubuntu to use the Mac's internet connection, i have it setup on the Mac side, but can't get configuration right on the Ubuntu side, it connects and then disconnects intermittently
[21:28] <Some_Person> xlq: I need to send files from somebody elses computer that I'm about to format to my laptop so I can restore the files after reinstalling Windows
[21:28] <netsurf3> _Adam__, sounds crazy but the ubuntu netbook remix will probably increase the length of the usb disk. just set it to use normal desktop mode. you may want lxde though since usb drives tend to be dog slow! it should be as simple as editing the /etc/fstab and saying where the home partition is though
[21:28] <xlq> ninjaslim: LOL
[21:28] <xlq> ninjaslim: I'm helping Some_Person with quite a similar thing :)
[21:28] <VCoolio> bdelin881: > creates new content in file; >> add at the end of the contents so doesn't overwrite
[21:29] <spO> i am using x64 bit ubuntu, but my system reports only 3.6-3.7 gb of ram , but i have 4gb of ram installed!
[21:29] <yaaar> does the ubuntu samba package have ldap support?
[21:29] <spO> how come i lost ram?
[21:29] <Some_Person> xlq: Normally I would use a flash drive, but the USB connector broke off of mine today
[21:29] <netsurf3> sp0 do you have an intergrated graphics card?
[21:29] <yaaar> spO; is it ECC ram?
[21:29] <_Adam__> cheers netsurf3, and that has all the repos? I would like to run apache and webmin
[21:29] <ninjaslim> xlq: oh
[21:29] <ejv> onboard vga slurping up RAM?
[21:29] <xlq> Some_Person: will you need to preserve the permissions and users of the files?
[21:29] <Some_Person> xlq: No.
[21:30] <ihr> Thank you to whoever suggested UCK
[21:30] <xlq> Some_Person: I'd just use rsync
[21:30] <insanitybin> Hello, I have a problem where the sound only comes out of my speakers and never out of my headset. In gnome-volume-control, I have my headset selected. In alsamixer, it also has my headset selected. I don't know how to fix this.
[21:30] <xlq> or scp
[21:30] <Some_Person> xlq: They're just files from the owner's My Documents folder
[21:30] <netsurf3> _Adam__, it is compatible with them all so you could always add them if they are missing. just bare in mind that that usb drive may not last long with those sorts of things running!
[21:30] <stefg> !sound | insanitybin
[21:30] <Some_Person> xlq: Can you tell me exactly what to do?
[21:30] <xlq> Some_Person: have you got ssh installed on the laptop?
[21:30] <Some_Person> xlq: Not to my knowledge
[21:30] <ninjaslim> xlq: in my cases the machines are able to communicate, but i can never get on the internet from the ubuntu machine as i should be able to
[21:30] <insanitybin> ok ty ubottu
[21:31] <ihr> I don't understand why making custom install CDs it this easy but great job
[21:31] <netsurf3> sp0 did you get my message
[21:31] <_Adam__> netsurf3, i mounted /tmp as tmpfs, would disabling the logging help?
[21:31] <Some_Person> xlq: By the way, I just figured out that the one with the duck as the wallpaper is Intrepid
[21:31] <xlq> Some_Person: install openssh-server on the laptop
[21:32] <Some_Person> xlq: ok
[21:32] <netsurf3> _Adam__, how much ram have you got to use on this?
[21:32] <KittyBoots> stefg: Ill check this out
[21:32] <mik3y> wow, i'm super confused... I've been using talk for months now. All of a sudden I am getting this message. "Error on read from talk daemon: Connection refused." Can somebody please help? I'm very frustrated.
[21:32] <netsurf3> and is it headless or does it need a gui
[21:32] <ejv> _Adam__: mounting tmp in tmpfs, simply means logging to temp is going into system memory
[21:32] <Some_Person> xlq: done
[21:32] <ejv> _Adam__: it does NOT mean that logging stops
[21:32] <DoomHack2009> steam cracké compte
[21:32] <VCoolio> Some_Person: that might be an ibex, considering it's "intrepid ibex"...
[21:33] <_Adam__> ejv, or i could mount /var/logs as tmpfs
[21:33] <Some_Person> VCoolio: Well, it looks like a duck to me, sort of like a rubber duck toy
[21:33] <ejv> _Adam__: you very well could, yes
[21:33] <xlq> Does Ubuntu come with rsync?
[21:33] <ejv> yes
[21:34] <xlq> No, I mean, by default
[21:34] <LoneWlf> xlq: it comes with 'sudo apt-get install rsync' isn't that the same?
[21:34] <ejv> yup, pretty sure
[21:34] <netsurf3> _Adam__, the best solution for you it sounds like is to make your usb pendrive then setup the usb stick to become a unionfs where changes made are written to ram instead of the usb disk. it'd be essentially a live disk but there would be your /home to save changes and there must be some way to modify the usb stick for admin reasons
[21:34] <xlq> LoneWlf: not without an Internet connection
[21:34] <firecrotch> rsync is not installed by default
[21:34] <xlq> ok
[21:34] <xlq> Some_Person: do you know how to use cp to copy files?
[21:34] <Some_Person> xlq: Yes
[21:34] <ejv> i don't recall having to install rsync
[21:34] <ejv> but I work pretty fast so...
[21:34] <ejv> ^_^
[21:34] <_Adam__> netsurf3, sort of, /var/www would still need to be on the stick and changes saved
[21:35] <Some_Person> xlq: I've been an ubuntu user since breezy. i know the basics pretty well
[21:35] <LoneWlf> xql: I'm pretty sure that it does come on the CD
[21:35] <LoneWlf> xlq: blah
[21:35] <xlq> Some_Person: ok. Well, on the desktop, you can copy a file to the laptop like this
[21:35] <_Adam__> I'm going for the silent home server box
[21:36] <netsurf3> _Adam__, that doesnt make alot of sense you said you had a internal for storing /home
[21:36] <netsurf3> its still going to make noise
[21:36] <xlq> Some_Person: scp myfile laptopusername@<IP_ADDRESS>:path/to/put/myfile
[21:36] <xlq> laptopusername is the username you use on your laptop.
[21:36] <_Adam__> netsurf3, /home is really only for storing music, i hope to spin the drive down
[21:37] <ajwak95> Restart X. BRB
[21:37] <Some_Person> xlq: Do I run with sudo?
[21:37] <xlq> Some_Person: no
[21:37] <mrwes> Some_Person, or scp -r if you want a directory
[21:37] <Some_Person> xlq: "ssh: connect to host <IP_ADDRESS> port 22: Connection refused"
[21:38] <_Adam__> i hope i dont sound too crazy :D
[21:38] <xlq> Some_Person: on the laptop, try this: ssh localhost
[21:38] <netsurf3> _Adam__, its just seems like alot of work thats all
[21:38] <enthdegree> are there any significant security advantages by removing yourself from sudoers?
[21:38] <_Adam__> I have tried this twice now, and reinstalling 32bit instead of 64
[21:39] <Some_Person> xlq: No errors or anything
[21:39] <netsurf3> i'd just bang a livecd onto usb and have the usb partitioned so that you can save the /var/www
[21:39] <_Adam__> netsurf3, i'm a windows administrator..... i'm used to a lot of messing around
[21:39] <xlq> Hrrm.
[21:39] <netsurf3> _Adam__, i havent had that joy yet get to find it out from the service desk side of things from the 14th of sept :(
[21:39] <_Adam__> oh yes, there is no working CD drive... and i cant be bothered to buy one
[21:40] <xlq> Some_Person: on the desktop, type: route
[21:40] <xlq> and show me the result (not in the main channel, obviously)
[21:40] <netsurf3> _Adam__, customize a version of slax?
[21:40] <Some_Person> xlq: hang on, i'll have to type it out since desktop has no internet
[21:40] <_Adam__> netsurf3, i have spent the week trying to get shot of conficker!
[21:40] <netsurf3> _Adam__, ahh oh shi-
[21:41] <netsurf3> _Adam__, pm?
[21:41] <_Adam__> KK
[21:41] <xlq> Some_Person: well, you could set up the Internet on the desktop.
[21:41] <Some_Person> xlq: How do I do that?
[21:41] <xlq> It's a bit fiddly.
[21:41] <Paul2> in grub4dos (wubi), kernel /ubuntu/disks/boot/vmlinuz-2-whateer root=<what goes here> (usually it would be /dev/hdax, but not here...)
[21:42] <Paul2> in grub4dos (wubi), kernel /ubuntu/disks/boot/vmlinuz-2-whateer root=<what goes here> (usually it would be /dev/hdax, but not here...)
[21:42] <Paul2> I tried /ubunutu/disks/root.disk, but I get an error when it loads and get dumped to an initfs prompt
[21:42] <michaeljfritz> Hello all
[21:42] <ubuntujanne> Hi room
[21:42] <ubuntujanne> was up?
[21:42] <urthmover> ho la
[21:43] <ubuntujanne> im a newbie here
[21:43] <ubuntujanne> a first timer to use Linux Ubuntu
[21:43] <michaeljfritz> also a newbie here
[21:43] <gwildor> heyo ubuntujanne
[21:43] <michaeljfritz> I am looking for help getting my wireless working
[21:43] <mrwes> welcome ubuntujanne
[21:43] <gwildor> and michaeljfritz
[21:43] <gwildor> i know a jeremy fritz
[21:43] <ubuntujanne> michaeljfritz..hi
[21:43] <michaeljfritz> no relation sorry :(
[21:43] <xlq> Some_Person: http://www.revsys.com/writings/quicktips/nat.html
[21:43] <ubuntujanne> qwildor..hi
[21:43] <michaeljfritz> so
[21:44] <michaeljfritz> long time windows expert finally throwing it all away
[21:44] <Some_Person> xlq: Oh god, not iptables. I failed miserably trying to do this about a year ago
[21:44] <xlq> Some_Person: heh :\
[21:44] <xlq> yeah, I said it was fiddly
[21:44] <ubuntujanne> well i cant say im no expert in microsoft windows
[21:44] <michaeljfritz> have a clean install of ubunto
[21:44] <ubuntujanne> i just get by
[21:44] <michaeljfritz> however looking to get the wireless working
[21:44] <michaeljfritz> I'm on a dell x300
[21:44] <Some_Person> xlq: Forget it. I'll type it out
[21:44] <ubuntujanne> pretty much same goes for my rather scarse skills in Ubuntu
[21:44] <urthmover> michaeljfritz: get to know the commandline and use MAN
[21:44] <ubuntujanne> LOL
[21:45] <urthmover> michaeljfritz: learn vi
[21:45] <ejv> windows and expert should never be used in the same sentence, that's an oxymoron
[21:45] <ubuntujanne> i got an old Dell XPS M1710
[21:45] <michaeljfritz> ejv lol
[21:45] <urthmover> michaeljfritz: learn irssi
[21:45] <ubuntujanne> but i get by
[21:45] <ubuntujanne> LOL
[21:45] <michaeljfritz> ok would love to learn all these things you are suggesting
[21:45] <Some_Person> xlq: Destination: "<IP_ADDRESS>" Gateway: "*" Genmask: "<IP_ADDRESS>" Flags: "UH" Metric: "0" Ref: "0" Iface: "eth0"
[21:45] <ubuntujanne> im just starhow to use the"Terminal"ting to learn
[21:45] <michaeljfritz> but would first like to get the darn wireless working so I can learn w/out being wired
[21:45] <ubuntujanne> and sudo commands
[21:46] <humbolto> what is the correct way to define 2 IP addresses for one NIC?
[21:46] <ejv> windows is closed source, how can you even call yourself an expert having no knowledge of software or operating system internals... lol
[21:46] <ejv> think about it! :p
[21:46] <michaeljfritz> ok enough windows bashing - we are all converts here
[21:46] <michaeljfritz> lol
[21:46] <urthmover> michaeljfritz: what make model
[21:46] <michaeljfritz> Dell X300
[21:47] <michaeljfritz> so it should havea broadcom wireless chipset
[21:47] <xlq> Some_Person: wrong address
[21:47] <ubuntujanne> pretty much all worked"Out of the Box"
[21:47] <xlq> Some_Person: route del <IP_ADDRESS>
[21:47] <ubuntujanne> when i installed Ubuntǘ
[21:47] <xlq> Some_Person: route add <IP_ADDRESS> dev eth0
[21:47] <mrwes> michaeljfritz, have you enable the multi and universe software sources?
[21:47] <Some_Person> xlq :On the desktop?
[21:47] <gwildor> ubuntujanne, yeah, some of us get lucky
[21:47] <xlq> Some_Person: yeah
[21:48] <xlq> Ugh, I hate multitasking
[21:48] <ubuntujanne> first time ad i get gready and installed all i could get my hands onroun
[21:48] <kaddi> ubuntujanne that's good to hear :)
[21:48] <ubuntujanne> hands on
[21:48] <michaeljfritz> I figured with a 5 year old machine all the drivers would be built into the install
[21:48] <ubuntujanne> but that failed
[21:48] <ubuntujanne> rather misserably
[21:48] <ubuntujanne> LOL
[21:48] <michaeljfritz> I see the wireless options
[21:49] <Some_Person> xlq: Should I post the output of route again?
[21:49] <michaeljfritz> so wondering if the drivers are installed
[21:49] <mrwes> michaeljfritz, System  |  Administration | Software Sources and put a tick mark in multi and restricted sources
[21:49] <meLon> Hey guys, I just changed my /etc/network/interfaces file, and now whenever I start up it hangs at "Configuring network interfaces".  I've tried starting in safe/debug mode or whatever, but it's still happening.  Is there any way I can get Ubuntu to start without networking so that I can modify the file?
[21:49] <xlq> Some_Person: no, try that scp command on the desktop again
[21:49] <ubuntujanne> i did find a dell Ubuntu reinstall.. not long ago
[21:49] <ejv> michaeljfritz: lspci > pastebin
[21:49] <Some_Person> xlq: same error
[21:49] <xlq> Some_Person: :(
[21:49] <ubuntujanne> not sure what pc it was made for
[21:49] <urthmover> michaeljfritz: run lscpi from the commandline and the output will tell you what wifi adaptor your system identifies I believe
[21:49] <ubuntujanne> i put it all on a dvd
[21:49] <Some_Person> xlq: I'll post the output of route
[21:49] <xlq> meLon: I don't know, but if all else fails, use a livecd.
[21:50] <ejv> meLon: remove neth.ethN from your default run level
[21:50] <ejv> meLon: and then stop your devices
[21:50] <meLon> xlq thanks.  Seems if you wait 5 minutes it realizes it's hanging and fixes itself
[21:50] <Some_Person> xlq: Destination: "ubuntu.local" Gateway: "*" Genmask: "<IP_ADDRESS>" Flags: "UH" Metric: "0" Ref:"0"
[21:50] <meLon> ejv: I wasnt able to get it to boot, but now it's booting
[21:50] <ejv> meLon: ok
[21:50] <Some_Person> xlq: Use: "0" Iface: "eth0"
[21:50] <Prodego> dxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
[21:50] <xlq> whoops, I forgot the netmask :\
[21:51] <xlq> Some_Person: sorry about this :\
[21:51] <michaeljfritz> mrwes - ok they were already ticked
[21:51] <Some_Person> xlq: It's ok
[21:51] <nickjohnson> When I load the 'hardware drivers' panel, it's empty - what do I need to do to populate it so I can install the NVidia binary drivers?
[21:51] <Some_Person> xlq: So what now?
[21:51] <michaeljfritz> I am running an update since the virgin install
[21:51] <nickjohnson> I'm using Ubuntu 9,04
[21:51] <michaeljfritz> perhaps that will fix this?
[21:51] <ubuntujanne> but how to install firefox 3.5?
[21:51] <mrwes> michaeljfritz, Ok.. now check System | Admin | Hardware Drivers to see if there are any drivers listed
[21:52] <Berzerker> ubuntujanne, sudo apt-get install firefox-3.5
[21:52] <mrwes> michaeljfritz, ahh..you're updating now?
[21:52] <ejv> people are so lazy lol
[21:52] <xlq> Some_Person: on the desktop, do: ip addr del <IP_ADDRESS>
[21:52] <xlq> Some_Person: on the desktop, do: ip addr add <IP_ADDRESS>/24
[21:52] <xlq> whoops,
[21:52] <xlq> make that
[21:52] <xlq> Some_Person: on the desktop, do: ip addr add <IP_ADDRESS>/24 dev eth0
[21:52] <Some_Person> "Not enough information: "dev" argument is required
[21:52] <xlq> yeah :P
[21:53] <Berzerker> Some_Person, look at his second line
[21:53] <Some_Person> that was for the del command
[21:53] <Some_Person> not the add command
[21:54] <ubuntujanne> thanx
[21:54] <ubuntujanne> started to download through terminal
[21:54] <xlq> Some_Person: oh
[21:54] <Xerran> Say for example I wanted to do this: "sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras", can I also do it this way: "sudo aptitude install ubuntu-restricted-extras"?
[21:54] <ejv> yes
[21:54] <gwildor> Xerran, yes, but i recommend picking apt-get or aptitude, and using only 1
[21:54] <xlq> And now I'm confusing myself
[21:55] <maco> Xerran: yes
[21:55] <ejv> I recommend aptitude, the options are smarter
[21:55] <xlq> Some_Person: on the desktop: ip addr del <IP_ADDRESS> dev eth0
[21:55] <Xerran> gwildor: i heard aptitude was the better way to do it for everything
[21:55] <maco> Xerran: aptitude will automatically remove things that were installed as dependencies and no longer needed. apt-get (nowadays) will tell you about them but not remove them
[21:55] <Xerran> ejv: thx
[21:55] <maco> Xerran: but aptitude can only do that if you install everything with aptitude
[21:55] <Some_Person> hang on, i ran out of RAM space trying to make a zip file of the My Documents folder
[21:55] <gwildor> Xerran, i prefer apt-get.... its preference... just pick one, or there may be problems later
[21:56] <Guest77610> im getting no audio on my headset, it was playing sounds from the live cd
[21:56] <savid> Is there a command that can print the pixel-size of an image?
[21:56] <Some_Person> its freezing up
[21:56] <urthmover> good lick michaeljfritz
[21:56] <urthmover> luck
[21:56] <xlq> maco, Xerran: indeed, but you can also mark packages as 'auto' with the M key, so that they are automatically removed when nothing that depends on it remains.
[21:56] <ejv> get in the habit of using aptitude
[21:56] <maco> xlq: yeah im just talking about whats automatic. the aptitude tui is a little too confusing for me to bother with
[21:56] <Xerran> maco: a learning experience for me but on my next install of the OS i will do everything via aptitude
[21:56] <xlq> maco: really? I find it pretty simple.
[21:57] <Some_Person> xlq: Long error
[21:57] <xlq> maco: ahh well, if you don't use aptitude, you might find 'deborphan' useful - it tells you about orphaned packages
[21:57] <maco> xlq: well i never really used it til i went to the "select packages to install" thing when installing from a pxe boot
[21:57] <xlq> Some_Person: is that an error, or just a warning?
[21:57] <maco> xlq: yeah i know. tell  Xerran :P
[21:57] <Some_Person> xlq: warning, but it says at the end "Cannot assign requested address"
[21:57] <mjheagle8> does anyone know what happens if you mix two speeds of ram?
[21:58] <maco> xlq, Xerran though i believe apt-get prompts you about whats unneeded now, so deborphan is no longer needed. if apt-get prompts you, you can then say "apt-get autoremove" and itll do it
[21:58] <xlq> mjheagle8: iirc on modern machines it uses the slower speed
[21:58] <Xerran> xlq: so basically if you use aptitude you will not have to worry about orphaned apps?
[21:58] <ejv> with apt-get there are tons of additional tools that need memorizing, like apt-listbugs, apt-listchanges, apt-rdepends, etc etc etc., with aptitude, it's much more thought out: aptitude <command>, eg: aptitude install, aptitude remove, aptitude search, aptitude clean; less room for error Xerran
[21:58] <maco> Xerran: right
[21:58] <xlq> Xerran: generally, yeah. What annoyed me, though, was that my base Ubuntu install didn't come with any aptitude state, so I had to trawl through all the packages manually, stripping out stuff I didn't need.
[21:58] <maco> ejv: aptitude cannot do all that apt-* can though. for example, you listed apt-rdepends. aptitude cant do that. nor can it do apt-file, that i am aware
[21:59] <xlq> Some_Person: on the desktop: ip addr del <IP_ADDRESS> dev eth0
[21:59] <Xerran> xlq: what version of ubuntu?
[21:59] <Berzerker> Yay! I received an invitation to test jolicloud!
[21:59] <xlq> Xerran: jaunty
[21:59] <maco> xlq:  think thats because it uses dpkg on them during install
[21:59] <Some_Person> xlq: Same warning, but no error at the end
[21:59] <Alvaa> Hi! I'm new on Ubuntu and I need some help. I have downloaded "Flash player 10 64 Bit for Linux" and this is a *.so file - how can to install *.so files?
[21:59] <xlq> maco: indeed
[21:59] <xlq> Some_Person: right.
[21:59] <ejv> apt-get has a big probelm with addressing the removal of packages, it does a great job at identifying what dependencies are required , but fails miserably when removing said package, leading inevitably to orphans on the system. the solution is aptitude.
[22:00] <xlq> Some_Person: on the laptop, do: ip addr del <IP_ADDRESS> dev eth0
[22:00] <slimnation7> im new to using ubuntu and im about to install it on my second computer, do i just pop the disk in and boot like i was installing windows?
[22:00] <Xerran> maco: but for basic installs, upgrades, removals and purges aptitude works good?
[22:00] <maco> ejv: ...not anymore so much
[22:00] <kingmanor> ejv: thats why i use aptitude
[22:00] <xlq> slimnation7: yep
[22:00] <maco> Xerran: yes. and it even alphabetizes on search unlike apt-cache, which is nice
[22:00] <ejv> yea
[22:00] <Some_Person> xlq: Same warning, no error
[22:00] <slimnation7> sweet thanks :)
[22:00] <xlq> slimnation7: even better, you can actually *use* Ubuntu before you install it!
[22:00] <ejv> im just pleading my case for aptitude > apt-get
[22:00] <ejv> :)
[22:00] <computer_> what do i use to create PDF files?
[22:00] <maco> ejv: it USED TO be the case that apt-get didnt know about orphaned packages. it does now.
[22:00] <ubuntujanne> sometimes when i look for new apps...i find alot/plenty on Linux..but seldom on Ubuntu deb
[22:00] <mikebot> Evince is giving me problems when trying to print a pdf document, so is there another pdf viewer I can use to print from? Thanks.
[22:00] <xlq> computer_: completely depends what you want to create them from.
[22:00] <xlq> computer_: pdflatex, openoffice.org, ps2pdf, etc. etc.
[22:01] <maco> ejv: it doesnt automatically remove htem in case you want them, but it does know theyre orphaned and inform you of that fact
[22:01] <xlq> Some_Person: on the laptop: ip addr add <IP_ADDRESS>/24 dev eth0
[22:01] <computer_> openoffice can create pdf file? cool
[22:01] <ejv> i still see a lot of quirky behavior with apt-get
[22:01] <maco> mikebot: okular?
[22:01] <bryan_> test
[22:01] <xlq> computer_: yep
[22:01] <ubuntujanne> is there any app that can transform other kind of linux into Ubuntu deb?
[22:01] <MOUD> Alvaa: you should have downloaded from the repositories instead of downloading the .so file
[22:01] <ejv> purely on the basis of easier memorization, I recommend aptitude
[22:01] <mikebot> maco: Thanks, I'll try that
[22:01] <Some_Person> xlq: ok
[22:01] <computer_> can openoffice edit pdf files?
[22:01] <xlq> ubuntujanne: alien, but don't expect it to work flawlessly
[22:01] <VCoolio> Alvaa: you don't install .so files as far as I know, you put them in the right spot
[22:01] <xlq> computer_: nope
[22:01] <maco> computer_: yes
[22:01] <FloodBot1> xlq: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:01] <bryan_> Can someone tell me how to change my name, I have a registered name but I'm using a cli client, irssi
[22:01] <maco> computer_: there is a plugin to edit pdfs in OOo
[22:01] <gwildor> ubuntujanne, like, use a .rpm on a .deb system?
[22:01] <ejv> finally portage owns dpkg
[22:02] <ejv> so suck it!
[22:02] <Xerran> So any instructions I see to install a certain package I can do it the aptitude way?
[22:02] <ejv> :D
[22:02] <mikebot> maco: Will that work in gnome?
[22:02] <gwildor> bryan_,   /nick newnick
[22:02] <xlq> computer_: PDF files aren't really for editing. There are, however, a few tools to convert PDFs into text, etc. But it's a bit hit-and-miss, because PDFs don't contain enough structural data.
[22:02] <computer_> maco, whats it called?
[22:02] <bryan_> gwildor: Thank you
[22:02] <xlq> FloodBot1: I'm just talking quickly!
[22:02] <Xerran> like .deb etc?
[22:02] <Alvaa> VCoolio: Bur i don't know the right spot :(
[22:02] <computer_> ok
[22:02] <ubuntujanne> Xerran yep..deb
[22:02] <gwildor> Xerran, just run apt-get orphan after you apt-get remove something...
[22:02] <maco> computer_: install openoffice.org-pdfimport i think
[22:02] <konsumer> Howdy folks. Quick Question, Does VMWare WorkStation do the same thing as VirtualBox OSE ?
[22:02] <felix_> i want to remove some entryes from access.log of apache2 with cut
[22:02] <maco> mikebot: yeah you can use kde apps in gnome and vice versa just fine
[22:02] <Xerran> gwildor: thx
[22:03] <xlq> Some_Person: on the laptop: route add <IP_ADDRESS>/24 dev eth0
[22:03] <konsumer> I want to install Xp in Ubuntu
[22:03] <xlq> oops NONO
[22:03] <mikebot> maco: Wonderful, thank you.
[22:03] <xlq> Some_Person: sorry, on the laptop: ip addr add <IP_ADDRESS>/24 dev eth0
[22:03] <maco> Xerran: if it's a .deb that youre downloading, for that youd use "sudo dpkg -i" on it
[22:03] <ejv> more reasons to try aptitude: better curses apps. better stdout formatting. so on. :)
[22:03] <ubuntujanne> install xp on ubuntu?
[22:03] <felix_> i want to remove some entryes from access.log of apache2 with cut can anyone tell me the command? cut -c <IP_ADDRESS> access.log does not work
[22:03] <computer_> konsumer, google vmware player vs virtualbox
[22:03] <konsumer> Cant decide whether to install VMWare WS or VirtualBox
[22:03] <meisterlumpi> konsumer: vmware prob. does more..
[22:03] <konsumer> Oh good
[22:03] <ejv> konsumer: KVM
[22:03] <konsumer> kvm eh
[22:03] <Xerran> konsumer: i prefer virtualbox over vmware
[22:03] <konsumer> never herd of that one
[22:04] <ejv> Canonical is very much behind Ubuntu and KVM, google it bro
[22:04] <ejv> trust me
[22:04] <Xerran> konsumer: vmware is bloated imho
[22:04] <xlq> Xerran: you can also use gdebi to install .deb files
[22:04] <konsumer> Orly
[22:04] <ubuntujanne> or you can get some kits that makes your ubuntu look more like window xp
[22:04] <maco> ubuntujanne: alien can convert some rpms to debs and vice versa but it is not guaranteed to work
[22:04] <Some_Person> xlq: ok
[22:04] <konsumer> I dont want the look of xp, i need it for running Maya 2009
[22:04] <ubuntujanne> maco thanx
[22:04] <computer_> i like virtualbox better :)
[22:05] <mathew1331> siemka
[22:05] <VCoolio> Alvaa:you could try ~/.mozilla/firefox/blah.default/extensions, then restart and see if it shows up in the tools > add-ons > plugins tab
[22:05] <mathew1331> :P
[22:05] <maco> konsumer: go with virtualbox. kvm is not human-friendly.
[22:05] <Xerran> xlq: thx but i think I will stick with aptitude, I need a challenge :P
[22:05] <xlq> Some_Person: on the laptop: route add <IP_ADDRESS>/24 dev eth0
[22:05] <konsumer> Ive tried VirtualBox OSE before, it feels limited
[22:05] <ejv> KVM is not the KVM switch ur thinking of, it's kernel based virtualization, using a QEMU hypervisor
[22:05] <VCoolio> Alvaa: restart firefox I mean
[22:05] <xlq> Xerran: no, I meant individual .deb files
[22:05] <ubuntujanne> maco where can i get hold of  "alien"?
[22:05] <konsumer> but the only problem is that VMWare WS is not free :/
[22:05] <Xerran> xlq: ok
[22:05] <maco> ubuntujanne: sudo aptitude install alien
[22:05] <Some_Person> xlq: "route: netmask 000000ff doesn't make sense with host route
[22:05] <Some_Person> "
[22:05] <konsumer> I'll have to buy it.
[22:05] <xlq> Some_Person: oh
[22:05] <xlq> Some_Person: on the laptop: route add <IP_ADDRESS> dev eth0
[22:05] <maco> konsumer: there's a non-OSE version of vbox
[22:05] <konsumer> Oh
[22:05] <konsumer> If it open source ?
[22:06] <konsumer> if it*
[22:06] <meLon> Okay guys.  I have this wifi radar tool and I opened it up and dc'd from my router.  I'm unable to get my wlan0 iface to come up.  here is some information:  http://pastebin.com/m6e49748
[22:06] <Alvaa> VCoolio: okay, i gonna try :)
[22:06] <konsumer> is it**
[22:06] <Some_Person> xlq: ok
[22:06] <MOUD> is there an alternative for openoffice?
[22:06] <maco> konsumer: OSE = open source edition
[22:06] <Xerran> konsumer: VirtualBox has far more frequent updates than vmware
[22:06] <konsumer> Ah i see
[22:06] <xlq> MOUD: KOffice, and also some individual light-weight programs like Abiword
[22:06] <maco> konsumer: the non-OSE vbox is free for home use
[22:06] <xlq> although I don't recommend Abiword, it's crashtastic.
[22:06] <konsumer> Ok, looks like i need to find this VB non ose
[22:06] <Some_Person> xlq: Why so many route commands on the laptop?
[22:06] <ubuntujanne> maco..ok.im back
[22:06] <xlq> Some_Person: on the desktop: route add <IP_ADDRESS> dev eth0
[22:06] <ubuntujanne> alien..and then?..ive just opened up terminal
[22:06] <maco> konsumer: virtualbox.org i think it's "PUE" .. Prsonal Use Edition
[22:06] <meisterlumpi> Xerran: why do frequent updates make a programm better?
[22:07] <nickjohnson> No matter what I do, I can't get any drivers to show up in the 'hardware drivers' panel. What am I doing wrong?
[22:07] <konsumer> maco, Thanks for the info
[22:07] <xlq> Some_Person: I only gave one route command for the laptop
[22:07] <FreshCure> hey
[22:07] <Some_Person> xlq: ok
[22:07] <MOUD> xlq: but which is better, openoffice or KOffice?
[22:07] <konsumer> and thanks to everyone else :)
[22:07] <Some_Person> xlq: No
[22:07] <xlq> MOUD: opinion
[22:07] <maco> ubuntujanne: just "alien foo.rpm" in whatever directory the rpm is and with the right name for it
[22:07] <H8sMikeMoore> i like openoffice
[22:07] <FreshCure> any ideas why kget keeps crashing out ?
[22:07] <gwildor> MOUD, open office, it doesnt require qt or klibs
[22:07] <konsumer> I'm actually running Xubuntu, but i figure its the same
[22:07] <H8sMikeMoore> kget isnt that great yet use synaptic
[22:07] <Xerran> meisterlumpi: when new OS's and technologies come out I guess..not to mention bug fixes
[22:07] <mrwes> nickjohnson, do you have the restricted software sources enabled ?
[22:07] <konsumer> but the Xubuntu channel takes some time to reply
[22:08] <konsumer> this channel is quick ;)
[22:08] <maco> H8sMikeMoore: what do kget and synaptic have in common?
[22:08] <Skrypt> I screwed up my /boot/grub/menu.lst. When I selected Ubuntu (instead of XP) at the grub selection, it'd just begin to load and then redirect me to the menu. I then installed the ext2 fs-driver on XP but couldn't even see the partition for Ubuntu. When I go to install Ubuntu now (inside XP) it says it's still installed. How do I recover that partition?
[22:08] <FreshCure> thansk H8sMikeMoore
[22:08] <emcpn> #ubuntu-gr
[22:08] <foufou> hello
[22:08] <nickjohnson> mrwes: As far as I know, yes. I can see the nvidia-glx-* packages in the package management tool
[22:08] <kaddi> hello foufou
[22:08] <xlq> Some_Person: oh, right, there has been a mistake
[22:08] <VCoolio> Alvaa: or try to create a plugins folder and put it in there; or launch firefox like this: LD_PRELOAD=/path/to/plugin.so firefox
[22:08] <xlq> Some_Person: on the laptop: ip addr add <IP_ADDRESS>/24 dev eth0
[22:08] <maco> FreshCure: er H8sMikeMoore doesnt make sense. synaptic isnt a replacement for kget
[22:08] <mrwes> nickjohnson, check to be sure -- sys | admin | software sources
[22:08] <Xerran> meisterlumpi: I have a purchased version of vmware and I have VB and I can tell you that VB gets updates quicker
[22:09] <maco> H8sMikeMoore: getting confused with kpackagekit?
[22:09] <gwildor> kget == wget
[22:09] <H8sMikeMoore> maco - yeah
[22:09] <FreshCure> Yeah I know maco
[22:09] <MOUD> then I'll install openoffice, why should I install qt or Klibs on my ubuntu if I might not use them. :)
[22:09] <nickjohnson> "Proprietary devices for drivers (Restricted)" is checked
[22:09] <xlq> gwildor: ?!?!
[22:09] <Berzerker> I'm having trouble formatting a flash drive on gparted.
[22:09] <FreshCure> he means seach synaptic for another bt client
[22:09] <FreshCure> I asume he does
[22:09] <Berzerker> I get an error when trying to make it FAT32
[22:09] <gwildor> MOUD, yes, id only use koffice, if i had kde (kubuntu)
[22:09] <Some_Person> xlq: "RTNETLINK answers: File exists"
[22:09] <H8sMikeMoore> no i got it confused with another program
[22:09] <mrwes> nickjohnson, backports too?
[22:09] <xlq> Some_Person: hmm, oh right.
[22:09] <FreshCure> oh
[22:09] <H8sMikeMoore> sorry
[22:09] <FreshCure> lol
[22:10] <xlq> Some_Person: on the desktop: ping <IP_ADDRESS>
[22:10] <felix_> i need to remove all lines matching <IP_ADDRESS> from access.log. can anyone tell me the piped command? im noob
[22:10] <meisterlumpi> Xerran: I find vmware to be more stable than vb, many updates could also mean the the programm was very buggy to begin with
[22:10] <nickjohnson> mrwes: I don't see an option labelled backports - where is it?
[22:10] <xlq> felix_: sed -i '/<IP_ADDRESS>/d' myfile
[22:10] <Some_Person> xlq: no responses
[22:10] <xlq> felix_: that alters myfile
[22:10] <maco> FreshCure: ubuntu includes a bt client
[22:10] <xlq> :\
[22:10] <maco> FreshCure: its called Transmission
[22:10] <felix_> sed removes entire lines xlq ??
[22:10] <FreshCure> Yeah I just noticed :D
[22:10] <xlq> felix_: it can, ys
[22:10] <meisterlumpi> Xerran: i run vmware server on my debian couple of years, can't complain
[22:10] <maco> FreshCure: or if youre on kubuntu, ktorrent
[22:10] <xlq> *yes
[22:11] <nickjohnson> Oh, under 'updates'?
[22:11] <Xerran> meisterlumpi: when it comes to stability you may have a point :P
[22:11] <felix_> xlq with that pattern?
[22:11] <firecrotch> Some_Person: whats the problem that you're having? if I recall correct, you're trying to transfer files between two computers directly connected with an ethernet cable?
[22:11] <MOUD> what's a good alternative for Windows Live Messenger for linux that has as many features as possible? (like audio only and webcam)
[22:11] <xlq> felix_: oh wait, uh, . matches any char sorry
[22:11] <Some_Person> firecrotch: That's what I want to do
[22:11] <xlq> MOUD: aMSN
[22:11] <gwildor> Some_Person, do you have a crossover cable?
[22:11] <emil1111> hello, I have two laptops both connected with ethernet, how can I make a file transfer between them?
[22:11] <Some_Person> gwildor: no
[22:11] <nickjohnson> I've enabled backports too, still nothing in the hardware drivers list
[22:12] <Xerran> meisterlumpi: beware, I am talking only about the desktop version of said virtualization apps.
[22:12] <meisterlumpi> Xerran: :-) well the thing is vb is free, vm ware for windows not..
[22:12] <mrwes> nickjohnson, under the updates tab
[22:12] <xlq> felix_: sed '/127\.0\.0\.1/d' deletes all lines with <IP_ADDRESS> in them
[22:12] <Skrypt> I screwed up my /boot/grub/menu.lst. When I selected Ubuntu (instead of XP) at the grub selection, it'd just begin to load and then redirect me to the menu. I then installed the ext2 fs-driver on XP but couldn't even see the partition for Ubuntu. When I go to install Ubuntu now (inside XP) it says it's still installed. How do I recover that partition?
[22:12] <gwildor> MOUD, afaik, the only msn messenger on linux that has webcam is amsn
[22:12] <Some_Person> xlq: if it helps, from the laptop: http://paste.ubuntu.com/252767/
[22:12] <MOUD> I see
[22:12] <gwildor> Some_Person, well you will need one, there are directions online how to make one.... thats why it wont work for you
[22:12] <Xerran> meisterlumpi: I have not experience with DC solutions of them
[22:12] <nickjohnson> mrwes: Right - I ticked backports there, still nothing showing up
[22:13] <firecrotch> Some_Person: Both machines have IP addresses on the same subnet?
[22:13] <Alvaa> VCoolio: there is already a plugins folder including an other .so file. i copied my new .so file in there and restarted firefox but nothing happens
[22:13] <Some_Person> firecrotch: I don't know
[22:13] <gwildor> Some_Person, no amount  of configuration will stop you from needing a crossover cable....unless they are  both macintosh
[22:13] <felix_> xlq, cool works, and how would be the patter for all lines matching localhost?
[22:13] <gwildor> firecrotch, he doesnt have a crossover... the configs are irrelivant atm
[22:13] <MOUD> is 0.97.2 the latest version? It's a year old
[22:13] <xlq> firecrotch: I've given <IP_ADDRESS> to the desktop's eth0 and <IP_ADDRESS> to the laptop's eth0
[22:13] <gwildor> MOUD, probably
[22:13] <xlq> felix_: ehh...  sed '/localhost/d' will delete all lines matching localhost, is that what you want?
[22:13] <notbenh> hello all, weird issue NetworkManager seems to not remember conection configs
[22:13] <firecrotch> gwildor: some NICs have auto-crossover
[22:13] <MOUD> ok, I'll give a try
[22:14] <gwildor> xlq, i appreas you have done that stuff right...just need the crossover.
[22:14] <VCoolio> Alvaa: it didn't show up in about:plugins? what version of firefox?
[22:14] <Xerran> meisterlumpi: the thing that annoyed me working in a DC was going to reboot a server and looking fruitlessly only to find out it was a vm :P
[22:14] <xlq> gwildor: heh, we already got a ping
[22:14] <gwildor> firecrotch, afaik, not one single onboard does..
[22:14] <felix_> xlq, yes, i want to delete the entire line, not just the word
[22:14] <xlq> felix_: yes, indeed
[22:14] <MOUD> thanks xlq and gwildor
[22:14] <notbenh> currently it has nothing under the wired tab in the GUI though there are files under system-connections
[22:14] <xlq> felix_: sed won't actually modify the file without the -i switch though
[22:14] <notbenh> tried /etc/inet.d/NetworkManager restart and still nothing
[22:15] <Alvaa> VCoolio: Namoroka, Firefox 3.6a1
[22:15] <Some_Person> xlq: So what now?
[22:15] <xlq> Some_Person: can you please paste the output of this, on the laptop?  ip addr show eth0 | grep inet
[22:15] <notbenh> ifconfig eth0 up and down appear to work but I still can not ping
[22:15] <firecrotch> Some_Person: back to basics, I suppose.  Make sure that one of your cards can do auto-crossover
[22:15] <notbenh> resolve.conf looks fine
[22:15] <xlq> firecrotch: IT CAN
[22:15] <Some_Person> firecrotch: I have no idea
[22:15] <notbenh> can any one think of anything that Ive missed?
[22:15] <xlq> notbenh: what're you trying to ping?
[22:16] <gwildor> or just spend the 5 minutes, and make a crossover
[22:16] <xlq> gwildor: the crossover is NOT the problem
[22:16] <VCoolio> Alvaa: ok, you did put the .so in the plugins folder from firefox-3.6 then?
[22:16] <meisterlumpi> Xerran: sry, tele
[22:16] <Some_Person> xlq: http://paste.ubuntu.com/252769/
[22:16] <xlq> ahh damn, it's got two addresses :\
[22:16] <Xerran> meisterlumpi: np
[22:16] <Alvaa> VCoolio: i want to try 64 bit flash player, for this i need 64 bit browser, that's the one i found
[22:16] <notbenh> xlq: google.com and http://google.com
[22:16] <meLon> I used a program that lets me scan for routers (I think it was called WiFi Radar) and now my wlan0 will not come up.  I get this error:  sudo ifconfig wlan0 up >> SIOCSIFFLAGS: No such device.  I am very confused
[22:17] <VCoolio> Alvaa: I don't have 64 bit, so can't really help there
[22:17] <notbenh> xlq:  both return the unknown host error
[22:17] <xlq> Some_Person: on the laptop: ip addr del <IP_ADDRESS>/24 dev eth0
[22:17] <nickjohnson> mrwes: any further ideas?
[22:17] <Some_Person> xlq: ok
[22:17] <xlq> notbenh: can you ping <IP_ADDRESS>?
[22:17] <xlq> Some_Person: try the ping on the desktop again
[22:17] <Some_Person> xlq: Still nothing
[22:17] <xlq> :(
[22:17] <notbenh> xlq: yes
[22:17] <mrwes> nickjohnson, no I don't sorry
[22:18] <firecrotch> Some_Person: from the laptop: traceroute ip_of_desktop
[22:18] <xlq> Alvaa: you can get the 64-bit flash player from Adobe's website. They say it's very unstable but it's been OK for me.
[22:18] <xlq> notbenh: then it's probably your resolv.conf
[22:18] <firecrotch> Some_Person:  you may not have traceroute installed, if you don't, sudo apt-get install traceroute
[22:19] <Some_Person> installing now
[22:19] <notbenh> xlq: I
[22:19] <ubuntujanne> ok im off..thanx for all the help GUys
[22:19] <Alvaa> i already dl it form adobe site, but i don't get it work
[22:19] <notbenh> xlq: I'll poke at it again
[22:19] <notbenh> xlq:  thanks
[22:19] <kaddi> bye ubuntujanne :)
[22:19] <xlq> notbenh: are you configuring manually or using dhcp?
[22:19] <meisterlumpi> Xerran: gotta go, pick up my brother, nice talking to you
[22:19] <Some_Person> firecrotch: E: Couldn't find package traceroot
[22:19] <VCoolio> Alvaa: did you put the plugin in .mozilla/firefox/blah or in the folder for firefox-3.6? You should do the latter
[22:19] <ubuntujanne> im gonna use Ubuntu 64 on my next pc project
[22:19] <xlq> Some_Person: traceroute
[22:19] <Some_Person> ah
[22:19] <notbenh> xlq: manual
[22:19] <Some_Person> that was stupid
[22:19] <ubuntujanne> cyaĺl L8er
[22:20] <xlq> notbenh: what does your resolv.conf contain now?
[22:20] <Alvaa> VCoolio: okay, but you helped me a lot :) now i knoe that i can't install .so files =)
[22:20] <Alvaa> xlq: i already dl it form adobe site, but i don't get it work
[22:20] <xlq> Alvaa: what's wrong with it?
[22:20] <dp> trying to start some c++ development... where do I find stream.h and other "standard" headers?
[22:20] <xlq> Alvaa: does firefox load the plugin? (about:plugins)
[22:20] <kekeke> if i want users to stop entering directories outside of their home, do i have to jail them? or if there is a specific folder i dont want them to access, is this possible?
[22:21] <Alvaa> xlq: the DL was a .so file and i don't know how to work with this
[22:21] <Alvaa> xlq: no, it doesn't
[22:21] <Some_Person> firecrotch, xlq: http://paste.ubuntu.com/252771/
[22:21] <mrwes> Alvaa, you need to copy the .so file to the mozilla/plugin directory
[22:21] <xlq> Alvaa: I put it in ~/.mozilla/plugin/
[22:21] <xlq> Alvaa: I put it in ~/.mozilla/plugins/
[22:21] <unop> kekeke, a chroot/jail would be the easiest way
[22:22] <kekeke> unop i've heard they are hard to set up, especially for inexperiences users such as myself, do you have any easy to follow resources to do this?
[22:22] <firecrotch> Some_Person: can you pastebin the output of ifconfig /all from both machines?
[22:22] <kekeke> *inexperienced
[22:22] <Some_Person> firecrotch: The desktop has no internet
[22:22] <xlq> Some_Person: this is really frustrating, if I were standing there I'd do it in a couple of minutes :\
[22:23] <Alvaa> xlq: the so file is in the plugins folder
[22:23] <notbenh> xlq: #Generated by NetworkManager and the 3 ip's for the nameservers
[22:23] <xlq> Alvaa: ~/.mozilla/plugins/libflashplayer.so exists?
[22:23] <Some_Person> xlq: Well, what's the problem?
[22:23] <unop> kekeke, this should start you off https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicChroot
[22:23] <Alvaa> xlq: but the firefox folder is on my desktop, is this a problem?
[22:23] <kekeke> thanks unop
[22:23] <xlq> Alvaa: no, put libflashplayer.so in ~/.mozilla/plugins/
[22:24] <konsumer> Thanks or the help. Peace.
[22:24] <xlq> Alvaa: also, are you sure you downloaded the 64-bit version?
[22:24] <unop> kekeke, i would suggest that you understand the concept first - which might require some extra background reading - before you go ahead and set it up
[22:24] <Laice> o/
[22:24] <kekeke> ok
[22:24] <Laice> got a font question
[22:24] <Some_Person> firecrotch: /all: error fetching interface information: Device not found
[22:24] <Alvaa> xlq: ~/.mozilla/ doesn't exist
[22:24] <xlq> Alvaa: you can create it
[22:24] <xlq> Alvaa: are you using a terminal for this?
[22:25] <Alvaa> xlq: i try .....
[22:25] <fudgecake> Hi - I'm having a problem and it's rather weird. When I open terminal to do whatever, it keeps printing lots of ~ at random stages, even causing me to abort downloads. Is there anything that would make this occur? Doesn't seem to happen in anything other than terminal :P
[22:25] <notbenh> xlq: ya that was it, dont know what it was but I moved resolv and then did it by hand and things are back up again
[22:25] <xlq> Alvaa: well, if you're using a file manager
[22:25] <Alvaa> xlq: i'm a newbie on linux / ubuntu
[22:25] <notbenh> xlq: thanks
[22:25] <nhn> Hi.
[22:25] <nhn> Is the arl1e driver broken in karmic?
[22:25] <xlq> Alvaa: ok, erm, where is libflashplayer.so?
[22:26] <firecrotch> Some_Person: is that from the desktop?
[22:26] <Some_Person> firecrotch: both
[22:26] <firecrotch> er
 Some_Person: can you pastebin the output of ifconfig /all from both machines?
[22:26] <xlq> firecrotch: that's a rather botched half-Windows command you've got there
[22:26] <firecrotch> Sorry, I'm stuck in Windows mode lol
[22:26] <Alvaa> xlq/ i downloaded a 64 bit firefox called namoroka and unzipped it on my desk
[22:26] <nhn> I just upgraded a laptop from jaunty, and it fails to load a driver for the ethernet card (atheros ar8113) which worked fine under jaunty
[22:26] <afed> wlan card
[22:27] <Alvaa> xlq: i downloaded a 64 bit firefox called namoroka and unzipped it on my desk
[22:27] <firecrotch> Some_Person: ifconfig will suffice :)
[22:27] <Some_Person> i can't pastebin from the desktop
[22:27] <xlq> Alvaa: but I'm trying to help you install flash player, not the entire web browser!
[22:27] <Alvaa> xlq: from there i can start it. and there is also a folder called "plugins" in this folder i copied the so file
[22:28] <xlq> Alvaa: what, ~/Desktop/plugins/libflashplayer.so?
[22:28] <Some_Person> firecrotch: from the laptop: http://paste.ubuntu.com/252774/
[22:28] <Alvaa> xlq: yes, the browser works, but it isn't in /.mozilla/