[10:37] <manson> hi i have problem, i am not able to connect wifi on ubuntu, it says authentication required, even my wifi password is correct but i cant
[10:37] <Rory> rich97: Can you give me an example of a command you run to produce the error?
[10:37] <manson> can anyone know this problem
[10:37] <Rory> manson: What Ubuntu version are you using? And what is the model number of your wireless device, motherboard, or laptop?
[10:37] <rich97> Rory: ls > /dev/null
[10:37] <ActionParsnip> manson: what wifi chip are you using?
[10:37] <manson> its ubuntu 12.10
[10:37] <kali_eskrima> i see.
[10:38] <manson> i work here as a php programmer but now i want to work on ubuntu
[10:38] <kali_eskrima> ok will ask something more complicated, in the topic . i had something to ask, but i forgot for now. so will come back when i remember. thank you all for the help!!! i realy appreciated it all!
[10:39] <qin> kali_eskrima: Sorry, my bad, you Ubuntu
[10:39] <manson> i dont know chip type
[10:39] <manson> bez im not admin for this pc
[10:39] <kali_eskrima> yes i have ubuntu @qin
[10:39] <rich97> Rory: Sorry  I'm going to have to go, thanks for your help.
[10:39] <tdn> How do I get the Simple Scan program to work with my new HP LaserJet Pro 200 Color MFP printer (M276nw)? I have already installed hplip, however, Simple Scan says no scanner device was found.
[10:39] <Rory> tdn: What Ubuntu version?
[10:39] <manson> hello
[10:40] <k1l> !paste | kali_eskrima put the output of "lsb_release -a" in there
[10:40] <tdn> I have tried using xsane, however, it cannot find the scanner. I have tried attacing it directly via USB.
[10:40] <tdn> Rory, 12.04.
[10:40] <Rory> manson: Is it a laptop?
[10:40] <manson> bro its pc
[10:40] <Rory> manson: Is the wireless device USB?
[10:41] <manson> no, its wifi
[10:41] <Alex34543> Hi everybody, i would like to find the "Information Process Letters" Vol.8, I  don't know how to find it :(
[10:41] <kali_eskrima> @kil @qin sorry i dont understand what am i suppose to paste the output or put it... @@
[10:41] <Rory> manson: Is the wifi built into your computer or is it a separate device?
[10:41] <Rory> kali_eskrima: http://paste.ubuntu.com
[10:41] <k1l> kali_eskrima: read the message the bot gave you
[10:42] <tdn> Rory, any ideas?
[10:42] <manson> yeh its seperate
[10:42] <kali_eskrima> @oh yes for longer texts and pictures to use another window. ok got it
[10:42] <Rory> manson: If I wanted to buy one for myself, what would I have to search on AMazon to find it?
[10:42] <qin> k1l: his ctcp looks (X11; Ubuntu; Linux x86_64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/24.0
[10:43] <gueney_> Hello guys. I have accidentally pulled out my usb stick from my machine without umounting it. It still  remains in my /media/ folder and can be browsable to a certain degree. How can I remedy that? I have no  root privileges. It's a stick I occasionally use for work but also has confidential/private data on it... would very much prefer to not leave it browsable
[10:43] <Rory> qin: What k1l is getting at is, hes probably using Kali Linux and not Ubuntu#
[10:43] <manson> hello Rory
[10:43] <manson> pl help me out
[10:43] <ActionParsnip> gueney_: you can force unmount stuff
[10:43] <Rory> manson: Is there a sticker on it with a model number?
[10:43] <gueney_> ActionParsni: How/
[10:44] <Antioch> I want to change the permissions of a folder and all of its nested subfolders (but not files). Does using the chmod -R flag change the only the folders, or all folders+files?
[10:44] <Rory> Antioch: The latter
[10:44] <Antioch> Rory, any way to do only folders?
[10:44] <manson> its not my own wifi its university wifi
[10:44] <Rory> Antioch: use chmod -Rv to see
[10:44] <Rory> Antioch: yes hold on
[10:44] <Antioch> sorry, thank you.
[10:45] <qin> Antioch: chmod 0600 $(find . ! -type d), use with sens
[10:45] <manson> the another problem is from the top of bar, there is warning red mark occurred
[10:46] <Antioch> qin: thank you very much!
[10:46] <manson> when i clicked an error says, plz run package manager from right-click menu
[10:46] <qin> Antioch: or better yet, find . -type d -exec chmod 0600 {} \;
[10:46] <manson> hello Rory
[10:46] <Rory> Antioch:  find . -type d -exec chmod 666 {} \;
[10:46] <Rory> Antioch: replace 666 with whatever
[10:47] <Rory> manson: I can't help you unless I know what the actual wifi device is
[10:47] <gulag2013> qin, that is cool. Can you explain the first 0 in the 0600 ?
[10:47] <manson> ohh
[10:47] <tdn> How do I share a folder in Ubuntu 12.04 so that a printer can upload scanned files to it? I am guessing this is samba shares. How to do?
[10:47] <keanehsiao> hi, how can I use monit to check multiple processes with simple dsl something like "check process instance[0-100] with pid /file/loc/instance[0-100]"   ?
[10:47] <Antioch> Rory thanks, that's easier to understand :)
[10:47] <ActionParsnip> tdn: in nautilus, right click a folder and select share
[10:48] <tdn> ActionParsnip, do I need to set up any users or groups for this? I just want a world writable folder.
[10:48] <tdn> ActionParsnip, when I have shared a folder, then what? What address do I type in on the printer?
[10:48] <tdn> ActionParsnip, \\hostname\foldername?
[10:48] <Rory> manson: It will be on a sticker on the device itsself, or if you really don't know, you can run the command "sudo lsusb" and put the output on http://paste.ubuntu.com and I will work it out from that
[10:49] <tdn> ActionParsnip, what if several users share a folder with same name?
[10:49] <manson> ok, the error message comes top of bar: Opening the cache(could not open file /var/lib/dpkg/ status -open(13:permission denied)
[10:49] <ActionParsnip> tdn: depends on the OS you are uploading from. You can run:   sudo smbpasswd -a $USER    and create a samba username and password to authenticate with. Try it without
[10:49] <manson> can u fix tat probleme Rory plz
[10:49] <Rory> manson: I thought you were having issues with wifi? Can we deal with one at a time?
[10:50] <manson> yes but i dont know model of wifi
[10:50] <qin> gulag2013: More litteral: echo today is $(date), tomorrow will be $(date --date="+1 day")
[10:50] <Lachezar> Q: I have a RAID-1 defined in /etc/mdadm/mdadm.conf as /dev/md0, but upon reboot it shows as /dev/md127. How come?
[10:50] <manson> could u plz fix my next prob
[10:50] <Rory> manson: then can you put the output of the command "sudo lsusb" on http://paste.ubuntu.com and put the resulting URL in channel
[10:51] <manson> ok
[10:52] <gulag2013> qin, you went over my head. Is was asking about the 0 in the 0600. Is it a sticky bit or something like that. I'm new to permission.
[10:52] <tdn> ActionParsnip, the OS is an HP printer.
[10:52] <tdn> ActionParsnip, so something embedded.
[10:52] <manson> it tells me bus 001 Device 001:ID 1d6b:0002
[10:54] <qin> gulag2013: oh, mod?
[10:54] <qin> gulag2013: http://major.io/2007/02/13/chmod-and-the-mysterious-first-octet/
[10:54] <gulag2013> Is that what that is, so in that example did that help set only the directories and leave the file permissions the same.
[10:55] <gulag2013> Okay, thanks
[10:56] <Rory> manson: Can you pastebin the full output please?
[10:58] <manson> Rory , i am reinstalling ubuntu again
[10:58] <Rory> manson: No need
[10:58] <Rory> manson: It won't help
[10:59] <Rory> manson: I don't understand why you aren't helping me help you
[10:59] <Rory> manson: I'm starting to suspect you're a troll
[10:59] <manson> i cant bez im on another pc
[11:00] <Rory> manson: Unplug your Wireless USB dongle from your computer and hold it in your hand. Look at it, and see if there are words and numbers on it. Tell me what those words and numbers are
[11:01] <kali_eskrima> @ActionParsnip what did you said that was offtopic ubuntu? how do i type...sorry i was looking for it but i couldnt find it, to many entries.....
[11:01] <Rory> kali_eskrima: type "/join #ubuntu-offtopic"
[11:02] <z302> will hibernation resume work correctly if I have my swap partitions sitting inside LUKS encrypted volumes whose password is usually asked at boot?
[11:02] <Rory> z302: Works for me
[11:02] <z302> many thanks.
[11:03] <kali_eskrima> thanks rory.. what does it mean "you are a troll"? and can you please tell me what i should never try to type into the terminal? there was a text i saw once, and it said on the website to never put it in you terminal because its bad? and its troll a virus?
[11:03] <Rory> kali_eskrima: I wasn't suggesting you were a troll
[11:03]  * Lachezar had to update initramfs
[11:03] <k1l> kali_eskrima: for generall talk please ask in #ubuntu-offtopic
[11:03] <Rory> kali_eskrima: You should never run any command you don't understand
[11:04] <kali_eskrima> yes i know it wasnt for me. i just tought its a virus, ..
[11:04] <kali_eskrima> but there was one specific command. its ok will try to find it out.. google it :D haha
[11:04] <kali_eskrima> thanks ya'all.
[11:05] <Rasmus`> Sorry to barge in and ask a question right off the bat, but Ubuntu says it is unable to create a file in an apt-get install -f process because the disk is full - but it isn't.
[11:05] <Rasmus`> Any way to resolve this?
[11:05] <Rasmus`> (Or any idea what might be the reason for this behaviour?)
[11:05] <k1l> Rasmus`: please pastebin a "df -h"
[11:05] <kali_eskrima> @Rory btw just so you know, many times i dont know much of the commands i see on the website help. but i still run them becuase it seems they are related to the problem im experiencing.. hahah... im still a rookie in the terminal
[11:06] <Rasmus`> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/3118195/df.txt
[11:06] <Rory> kali_eskrima: Sometimes you can get a good idea for what a command does. And if you're unsure you can ask here
[11:06] <Rory> Rasmus`: Can you please pastebin the command you ran and the full output including the errors?
[11:07] <kali_eskrima> yeah, thanks will do. sometimes it does make sense for the command. like its an abbreviation of the word..
[11:08] <manson> ROry, i told u tat i am not admin, im user here i a dept
[11:08] <Rasmus`> Rory: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/3118195/Error.txt
[11:08] <the-noob> hi, how can I add Apache as a service?
[11:08] <Rory> manson: That doesn't stop you using your eyes
[11:08] <Rory> manson: Ignored
[11:08] <the-noob> each time I'm restarting the machine apache is stopped
[11:09] <Rory> the-noob: How did you install Apache?
[11:09] <k1l> Rasmus`: run"sudo apt-get autoremove" to free some space
[11:09] <the-noob> apt-get install
[11:09] <k1l> !rootirc > root____3
[11:09] <manson> before 3 hours my wifi was working but now its now
[11:09] <root____3> ok
[11:10] <manson> bez i type command for installing sound driver and to install apache 2 server
[11:10] <Rory> the-noob: "sudo apt-get install apache2" ?
[11:10] <k1l> Rasmus`: and do a "sudo apt-get autoclean" afterwards
[11:10] <conor1234567890> fff
[11:10] <the-noob> yes
[11:10] <kali_eskrima> @manson .... i dont know if this will help you but it did to me. my wifi was working and than i couldnt even select it from the menu. try this...  http://askubuntu.com/questions/139036/how-do-i-fix-a-wireless-is-disabled-by-hardware-switch-error
[11:10] <Rasmus`> k1l: I tried, but I get a similar error. https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/3118195/Error%20-%20Kopie.txt
[11:10] <Rory> the-noob: sudo update-rc.d apache2 enable
[11:11] <the-noob> did that, said it was added
[11:11] <the-noob> and it's not workin
[11:11] <k1l> Rasmus`: without "-f"
[11:11] <Rasmus`> I'm basically going in circles. I can't clear that weird dependency error because it says I don't have enough space, but to clear space I need those dependency errors fixed. At least that's what it looks like to me.
[11:11] <ActionParsnip> the-noob: what is the output of:  cat /etc/issue
[11:11] <Rory> the-noob: What's the output of "sudo service apache2 status" ?
[11:11] <ActionParsnip> Rasmus`: do you have /home on a separate partition?
[11:11] <Rory> ActionParsnip: his df -h is here https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/3118195/df.txt
[11:12] <the-noob> I've just started it again by hand
[11:12] <Rasmus`> k1l: I did both. Check again, I updated the file. (too lazy to create a new file for each error)
[11:12] <ActionParsnip> Rory: and the output of:    df -i
[11:12] <the-noob> let me restart
[11:12] <ActionParsnip> Rory: and the output of:  cat /etc/issue
[11:13] <badass> how can I automatically add users added with Winbind in AD to a local group?
[11:13] <Rory> ActionParsnip: I'm sure you don't mean me
[11:13] <ActionParsnip> Rory: who is it?
[11:13] <Rasmus`> It's-a me!
[11:13] <Rasmus`> I think.
[11:13] <Rory> ActionParsnip: Rasmus`
[11:13] <manson> ROry, i reinstall ubuntu
[11:13] <ActionParsnip> Rory: ty
[11:14] <manson> still, i cant connect wifi
[11:14] <ActionParsnip> Rasmus`: what is the output of:   df -i; cat /etc/issue
[11:14] <manson> ?
[11:14] <kali_eskrima> oh sorry Rory one more thing, can i ask here for help about how to create more than one partion? i already missed the installing part (when u can create partition) i didnt understand it. but now i would like to have at least two.. so can i ask here or in the offtopic window?
[11:14] <ActionParsnip> manson: what wifi chip are you using?
[11:14] <kali_eskrima> MANSON this you see the link i gave you? will it help your problem?
[11:14] <Rasmus`> ActionParsnip: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/3118195/df.txt
[11:14] <Rory> kali_eskrima: You can install and use the "gparted" application, but you can't resize the partition Ubuntu is currently on
[11:14] <manson> i dont know
[11:14] <Rory> ActionParsnip: Don't even go there
[11:14] <ActionParsnip> Rasmus`: you are out of inodes
[11:15] <ActionParsnip> manson: sudo lshw -C network     will tell you
[11:15] <ActionParsnip> Rasmus`: if you clear browser cache, it can help
[11:15] <Rasmus`> It's on a server, I'm not really using the browser (nor do I think it's even installed)
[11:15] <kali_eskrima> ooh ok... will look for more info on that,. thanks rory, i couldnt understand how to do it in the installation process...all that .dx. /.sv letters ...hmmm rookie :D
[11:15] <the-noob> Rory: Apache2 is NOT running.
[11:15] <ActionParsnip> Rasmus`: you need to free up inodes
[11:15] <Rory> the-noob: Can you start it with "sudo service apache2 start" ?
[11:16] <the-noob> yes
[11:16] <ActionParsnip> the-noob: what is the output of:   cat /etc/issue
[11:16] <Rory> kali_eskrima: If you boot froma LiveCD you can do partitioning from there, using the "gparted" program which is included
[11:16] <the-noob> 13.04
[11:16] <manson> Bus 001 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub
[11:16] <manson> Bus 002 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub
[11:16] <manson> Bus 003 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub
[11:16] <manson> Bus 004 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub
[11:16] <FloodBot1> manson: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:16] <the-noob> \n \l if it matters
[11:16] <ActionParsnip> manson: that's not what I said to run
[11:17] <Rory> ActionParsnip: It is what I asked him for about half an hour ago
[11:17] <Rory> ActionParsnip: Don't blame me though, I told him to use paste.ubuntu.com :P
[11:17] <kali_eskrima> @Rory i know that but i couldnt figure out how to do it.. there was a bunch of letters and spaces. and also an option to add a new partiotion and it wouldnt work... but ok will research more.. thanks!
[11:17] <Rasmus`> ActionParsnip: Thanks a bunch, I'll try to take it from here.
[11:17] <ActionParsnip> the-noob: run:   gksudo gedit /etc/rc.local    and above the 'exit 0' line, add: service apache2 start    save the new file, close gedit and reboot
[11:17] <Rasmus`> Thank you as well, Rory.
[11:18] <jayH> I'm having trouble installing the latest Pitivi 0.91, anyone here can help please?
[11:18] <Rory> jayH: What Ubuntu version are you using? How are you trying to install it?
[11:18] <Rory> jayH: What trouble are you having?
[11:18] <jayH> I'm compiling I think (new to Ubuntu) -missing a package I think, configure: error: Package requirements (cairo) were not met
[11:18] <the-noob> ActionParsnip: well, the entire story is that I'm using it in a VM with Vagrant
[11:19] <the-noob> and shell provisioning
[11:19] <the-noob> so I'll just add that ' apache2ctl start ' to the bootstrap.sh
[11:19] <ActionParsnip> the-noob: the command will run as root at startup and get the service running
[11:19] <ActionParsnip> jayH: where are you installing it from? What method are you using?
[11:20] <jayH> I ran ./configure which was fine till that point
[11:20] <jayH> It's the latest version, not in Software Centre yet
[11:20] <ActionParsnip> jayH: is there not a PPA?
[11:20] <jayH> I couldn't find one that was new
[11:21] <jayH> I like PPAs ;)
[11:21] <ActionParsnip> jayH: what is the output of:  cat /etc/issue
[11:21] <jayH> ActionParsnip, sorry what output?
[11:22] <ActionParsnip> jayH: of the command I just gave...
[11:22] <jayH> I ran the command ./configure, all dependencies met I think, no errors except:  checking for cairo... configure: error: Package requirements (cairo) were not met:
[11:23] <jayH> Ubuntu 13.04 \n \l
[11:25] <ActionParsnip> jayH: do you have python-cairo installed? may need python-cairo-dev too
[11:25] <jayH> ActionParsnip any luck?
[11:26] <ActionParsnip> jayH: with what?
[11:26] <jayH> I know I have Python, use it for blender, but not sure on the specifics
[11:27] <ActionParsnip> jayH: I gave you a package name, is it ionstalled?
[11:27] <jayH> sorry, how do I check if it's installed? New to Linux
[11:28] <ActionParsnip> jayH: use software centre, or install it using apt-get
[11:28] <ActionParsnip> jayH: neverused eithe rof those before?
[11:28] <jayH> ok
[11:28] <ActionParsnip> jayH: never used either of those before?
[11:29] <jayH> I have Python-cairo installed already - but not the dev, I'll install that then
[11:30] <jayH> I've used Software Centre obviously, but didn't know I'd find something so small in them - like I said, I'm new to linux/ubuntu
[11:31] <jayH> Nope - that didn't work either - still the same missing package
[11:31] <manson> hello
[11:31] <tengopreguntas1> i am using "dpkg-repack --generate" to build a package. is there a way i can know the name of the directory dpkg-repack created, so i can pass it to "dpkg --build" later on
[11:31] <CodeOmegaPrime> I have a ubuntu 13.04 running gnome with ati graphics. The problem is when I access activities everything begins to flash. Also when a program is open if it is not fullscreen it is unviewable. Any ideas of what coyld ge causing this behavior?
[11:31] <manson> Rory- i fixed the problem
[11:32] <manson> i didnt add my wifi network connection
[11:33] <manson> hi there ActionParsnip
[11:33] <manson> i fix problem
[11:33] <ntg-work> CodeOmegaPrime: are you on a laptop ?
[11:33] <CodeOmegaPrime> ntg-work no desktop
[11:34] <ntg-work> CodeOmegaPrime: ah right, have you installed the AMD drivers?
[11:34] <ActionParsnip> manson: cool
[11:34] <rchavik> hi, is there an fdisk-like CLI during install ?
[11:34] <CodeOmegaPrime> ntg-work yes I have
[11:34] <ActionParsnip> rchavik: fdisk is on the desktop install ISO
[11:35] <ntg-work> CodeOmegaPrime: lspci | grep VGA
[11:35] <ntg-work> pastebin the output
[11:35] <ntg-work> CodeOmegaPrime: also do "lshw -c video" and pastebin that as well
[11:35] <rchavik> ActionParsnip, are you saying the fdisk*.udeb file?
[11:35] <CodeOmegaPrime> OK
[11:36] <ActionParsnip> rchavik: if you run:    sudo fdisk /dev/sda    you will get fdisk access to the first drive.
[11:37] <rchavik> ActionParsnip, the system is not installed yet.. i want to clear out the partition table before the installer starts the partitioning program
[11:37] <manson> hello <ActionParsnip
[11:37] <manson> i m trying to install apache 2 server having command sudo apt-get install apache2
[11:38] <manson> but says error "unable to corect problems , have held broken packages"
[11:38] <CodeOmegaPrime> Ng-work http://paste.ubuntu.com/6208935
[11:38] <ActionParsnip> rchavik: then use gparted to wipe the MBR and you will have zero partitions, you can then run the installer
[11:38] <jrib> manson: pastebin full input and output
[11:38] <ActionParsnip> manson: then run:  sudo apt-get -f install
[11:39] <ntg-work> CodeOmegaPrime: 33mhz clock huh.. hmm
[11:39] <ntg-work> CodeOmegaPrime: can you try running glxgears and see if that causes any problems?
[11:39] <CodeOmegaPrime> Sure
[11:39] <manson> jrib
[11:40] <manson> where i gotta pastebin input and outtput
[11:40] <rchavik> ActionParsnip, yeah.. boot rescue first.. thanks
[11:40] <jrib> !pastebin | manson
[11:40] <CodeOmegaPrime> ng-work works fine as long as its fullscreen
[11:41] <CodeOmegaPrime> ng-work if its not fullscreen the window is grey an content is not rendered
[11:41] <ntg-work> hmm
[11:43] <ntg-work> I had that problem on one of my earlier laptops, I'm trying to remember how I fixed it
[11:43] <funkt> Hi there has anyone ever tried to use xml encryption software xmlsec1 in ubuntu?
[11:44] <CodeOmegaPrime> Should I attempt to remove video drivers and reinstall them?
[11:47] <kali_eskrima> @Rory hi, i have one quick question. maybe is nothing but i wasnt too sure what to do. so downloaded the gparted and i was reseraching online how to do partition after installed ubuntu. i entered this command to terminal (sudo fdisk -l) and it gave me specific list with one warning. please can you see in the link i give you? thank you very much.   http://paste.ubuntu.com/6208970/
[11:47] <funkt> does anyone know of any ubuntu xml encryption software?
[11:49] <qin> !abs | gulag2013
[11:49] <Rasmus`> Whee, fixing a problem in Ubuntu makes me so happy for some reason.
[11:49] <qin> gulag2013: sorry for waiting time, /j #bash will add too
[11:51] <gulag2013> qin, thats great. Thanks for the reply. I was having a long talk with myself if I should continue learning linux.
[11:52] <BananaBob> gine
[11:52] <Rory> kali_eskrima: You should use the graphical "gparted" utility  -you don't need to install it, it's already on the LiveCD
[11:53] <ActionParsnip> Rasmus`: its a challenge met, so all good :)
[11:53] <kali_eskrima> ok i saw it on the live cd but i didnt know what to do. thats why i did install gparted now. so can it damage my disk of current settings or i can just create without problems, another partition? did you saw the link i gave you?
[11:53] <ActionParsnip> kali_eskrima: you just updated it if you installed it :)
[11:54] <kali_eskrima> oh ok.. hmm
[11:54] <kali_eskrima> did you saw the link i gave? it says something about WARNING GPT..... etc
[11:54] <Rory> kali_eskrima: You should run gparted, then you can graphically resize partitions and create new ones
[11:55] <kali_eskrima> should i be concerned?
[11:55] <Rory> kali_eskrima: That's right, the command-line utility "fdisk" doesn't support the type of partition table you are using. It's not a problem
[11:55] <kali_eskrima> ok and gparted will not destroy my current setting, will just add /separate this big partition in two? right?
[11:56] <ActionParsnip> kali_eskrima: if you are concerned then ensure your backups are up to date
[11:56] <Rory> kimphill: It will do what you tell it to do
[11:56] <Rory> kali_eskrima: ^
[11:56] <Rory> (sorry kimphill )
[11:56] <ntg-work> CodeOmegaPrime: Sorry, I was away for a little while
[11:57] <kali_eskrima> i dont quite undertand what that meas "that it doesnt support the type of partiotion table used" but is ok, no need to know at the moment.
[11:57] <Rory> kali_eskrima: It will be pretty obvious once you open it, you can just right-click a partition and do "resize" and there's a slider
[11:57] <Rasmus`> ActionParsnip: I'm more of a beginner with Linux, and unfortunately I don't have many reasons to work with it in my daily routine. I have this little server running at home, doing some basic stuff. But since it's running almost.. too well, I never really have reason to work with it.
[11:57] <kali_eskrima> what is this that sign?^
[11:57] <Yowl> Someone here have knowledge of eCryptfs and/or other ecryption software/methods?
[11:57] <CodeOmegaPrime> ng-work np im just going to reinstall. Rwally wisg I knew what caused it
[11:57] <Rory> kali_eskrima: I meant it to get your attention to the message above. Just a little up-arrow
[11:58] <CodeOmegaPrime> Ng-work now I cannot even ligin to gnome
[11:58] <ntg-work> CodeOmegaPrime: ouch
[11:58] <kali_eskrima> oh ok thank you
[11:58] <CodeOmegaPrime> Ntg-work and I think I will upgrade the kernwl before I jnstall the ati driver's
[11:58] <kali_eskrima> how do you make my name sound, when you click on it. and i can hear you text me? what do you type?
[11:59] <ntg-work> CodeOmegaPrime: you can try that as well, what motherboard do you have?
[11:59] <ntg-work> do you have any onboard gfx?
[12:00] <CodeOmegaPrime> No the card is its own board
[12:00] <CodeOmegaPrime> Nope wrong its integrated
[12:00] <ntg-work> aaah right
[12:01] <ntg-work> where did you install the driver?
[12:01] <ntg-work> I mean, where did you get it from ?
[12:01] <CodeOmegaPrime> Ati
[12:01] <ntg-work> amd.com ?
[12:01] <CodeOmegaPrime> Used the proprietary
[12:01] <CodeOmegaPrime> Yup
[12:02] <ntg-work> Can you try using the driver manager and selecting the propertiary driver from there?
[12:03] <CodeOmegaPrime> I will after I reinstall I believe I went proprietary because it wouldnt install give me 20 to reinstall and lets see
[12:03] <jack> ntg-work, is "proprietary" a hard word?
[12:03] <jack> seems like it...
[12:03] <ActionParsnip> CodeOmegaPrime: the physical connectivity is irrelevant in any OS
[12:05] <_root_> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/19229985/fvwm-style-for-the-windows/19244269#19244269
[12:05] <_root_> does anybody know the answer?
[12:06] <kali_eskrima> @Rory what it means /dev/sda1; dev/sda2; dev/sda3? where should i do another partition? the first two are used (1st has 90mb; the 2nd has 675 gb) the 3rd is free.
[12:08] <TJ-> kali_eskrima: It might help for you to better understand disk partitioning. Take a look at this guide https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowtoPartition
[12:09] <kali_eskrima> thank you TJ
[12:09] <kali_eskrima> just one more thing, how do you select my name that will make a sound?
[12:11] <zwamkat> gordonjcp: Yep. I added both shares and gave them each their own credentials. I'm not sure it was necessary but it was sure useful for troubleshooting. Issue solved. Thanks for your help.
[12:12] <IdleOne> kali_eskrima: that is part of your irc client. when your nick is mentioned in a channel your client beeps you
[12:12] <kali_eskrima> oooh cool, ok so no special commands :D thanks
[12:20] <Neptu> Hej I want to buy some grafic card dongle for the laptop that works with linux, but seems the ones have been tested are out of the market at this point
[12:21] <Neptu> anyone know a usb graficard that Its supported?? maybe there is a compatibility list of hardware or chipset for ubuntu?
[12:24] <ActionParsnip> !hcl
[12:26] <barmmie> Good day guys
[12:26] <TJ-> Neptu: An alternative, if the laptop has an ExpressCard port, is to use an external ViDock with a full-size PCIe graphics adapter. I use one to add 4 screens (via an Nvidia NVS450) to the 2 screens my laptop's GPU can drive.
[12:27] <barmmie> Can anyone tell me how to uninstall aptana studio
[12:27] <root_> yup
[12:27] <ActionParsnip> barmmie: use software centre
[12:28] <ActionParsnip> barmmie: how did you install it?
[12:28] <barmmie> ActionParsnip: from the command line
[12:28] <ActionParsnip> barmmie: ok, what commands did you use?
[12:29] <ActionParsnip> barmmie: and what is the output of:  cat /etc/issue
[12:30] <barmmie> ActionParsnip Ubuntu 12.10 \n \l
[12:31] <barmmie> ActionParsnip: Ubuntu 12.10 \n \l
[12:32] <ActionParsnip> barmmie: did you use this guide: http://www.samclarke.com/2012/12/how-to-install-aptana-studio-3-3-1-in-ubuntu-12-10-quantal-quetzal/
[12:34] <barmmie> ActionParsnip: Yes!
[12:34] <ActionParsnip> barmmie: then reverse the steps.....
[12:35] <barmmie> ActionParsnip: Would try that. Thanks!
[12:36] <ActionParsnip> barmmie: sudo rm -r /opt/Aptana_Studio_3 /opt/Aptana_Studio_3.xpm /usr/share/applications/SC-AptanaStudio.desktop
[12:36] <ActionParsnip> barmmie: if you READ the install script you ran, it shows exactly what was put where, so you can undo it
[12:39] <barmmie> ActionParsnip: No such file or directory
[12:40] <ActionParsnip> barmmie: read the script you ran....
[12:40] <ActionParsnip> barmmie: you could even search your file system for the files named
[12:40] <barmmie> ActionParsnip: Doing that now...
[12:41] <ActionParsnip> barmmie: not obvious enough?
[12:42] <amandabee> my laptop keeps crashing. It shuts down with a poof.
[12:42] <amandabee> I'm running 12.04
[12:42] <amandabee> I'm trying to figure out where to look to diagnose this
[12:42] <ActionParsnip> amandabee: have you tested your RAM using memtest from Grub?
[12:42] <Chef> How far are you getting into the boot process?
[12:42] <amandabee> ActionParsnip: nope.
[12:42] <ActionParsnip> amandabee: itd be a good start
[12:43] <amandabee> Chef: well, I'm booted now, though I'm using IRSSI from TTY 3  which seems less fussy
[12:43] <barmmie> ActionParsnip: It was removed already and i was still running the command! Thanks!!
[12:44] <amandabee> is there a log file I should be looking at? Last time I saw a flash of a shutdown message
[12:44] <amandabee> so it knew it was going down
[12:44] <Chef> /var/log/boot, I think
[12:44] <brownie> am very new in ths
[12:44] <brownie> ...any guideline
[12:45] <amandabee> Chef: "(nothing has been logged yet)"
[12:45] <Chef> Whoops, boot.log
[12:46] <slipky> i have a ubuntu server 12.04 running openldap and cups ... it is possible to make a windows client be prompt with ldap authentication every time that it send a job to a printer?
[12:47] <Yowl> Anyone here know of eCryptfs and or other encryption methods etc?
[12:47] <Chef> Yowl, I use ecryptfs.
[12:48] <Chef> I've never had a need for full-disk encryption like luks or dm-crypt, though.
[12:48] <Yowl> Chef:  It is a type of FS, doesn't that mean it makes a quasi partition?
[12:48] <Yowl> Chef: Since you can't have more then one FS on a partition, right?
[12:49] <Chef> I think it does, but I'm not an expert.
[12:49] <Yowl> Chef: Is the space within eCrypts static  like a partition, or expand and contract according to contents within?
[12:50] <Chef> I think the default is static.. To be honest, I don't remember much about my setup of ecrypt
[12:51] <zexcriz> i don't remember exactly what i did but i messed the  permissions of apache, right now i am getting an error as /var/lock/apache2 already exists but is not a directory owned my zexcriz.
[12:51] <TJ-> Yowl: eCryptfs is a stacked file-system, it doesn't work on the block level, but on a per-directory/per-file basis.
[12:51] <helmut_> hi
[12:52] <Yowl> TJ-: I am not sure what you mean/how that applies to what I was asking about
[12:52] <TJ-> Yowl: The encrypted homes on Ubuntu live at /home/.ecryptfs/$USER/
[12:53] <Yowl> TJ-: So is it a FS or not? Does it expand and contract according to content amount or not?
[12:53] <TJ-> Yowl: There is no 'partition' set aside for it... it works above an existing blocked file-system, hence it is called 'stacked' since the file-systems stack one on top of another
[12:55] <Yowl> TJ  Does it expand and contract according to content amount or is the space within set/static?
[12:55] <MonkeyDust> hi, this the playce for obuntu questyons?
[12:55] <Chef> It expands/contracts according to content.
[12:55] <TJ-> Yowl: Your question makes no sense in relation to ecryptfs.
[12:55] <Chef> Although expansion/contraction are weird words
[12:55] <IdleOne> MonkeyDust: ?
[12:55] <Yowl> Well I would be glad to use less weird words, if I had them
[12:56] <fishcooker> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6209190/
[12:56] <TJ-> Yowl: When ecryptfs is in use, it writes each file/directory that is encrypted to a file/directory that is encrypted, in the underlying file system. Each encrypted file will have a size in relation to the unencrypted version
[12:57] <Yowl> Chef: So can actively get into and lock up ecrypts contents without having to relog?
[12:57] <TJ-> Yowl: Real example might help you here...
[12:57] <fishcooker> is it about the locale error?
[12:57] <fishcooker> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6209190/
[12:57] <TJ-> Yowl: The /home/ file-system on my current system uses ext4 block-level file-system.
[12:58] <TJ-> Yowl: When I chose to encrypt my home directory (/home/tj/) ecryptfs created a new directory (/home/.ecryptfs/tj/).
[12:59] <TJ-> Yowl: Before I log-in the only things in /home/tj/ are maker files saying my home directory is encrypted. After I log-in ecryptfs reads all the directories and files in /home/.ecryptfs/tj/.Private/ and creates their unencrypted versions in /home/tj/
[12:59] <TJ-> s/maker files/marker files/
[13:01] <blurkis> I just tried gnome  3.10 on ubuntu 3.10 (yes, i know its still in development) and there seems to be no way to change theme for applications..? how do I do that in gnome 3.10?
[13:01] <cebor> when i move a window with (shift + ctrl + alt + cursor) to a other desktop, is it a know bug, that the animation is very ugly in 13.04 ?
[13:01] <Yowl> TJ-: So the content is encypted and unencrypted via log in? I can't actively lock or unlock said encypted content?
[13:01] <TJ-> Yowl: As those files are written to the encrypted versions are updated during the write, so eCryptFS presents a 'view' of unencrypted files but they don't really exist, it just transparently decrypts/encrypts the files in /home/.ecryptfs/ttj/.Private/ as I access them
[13:02] <TJ-> Yowl: Sure you can. You can unlink the login scripts that mount ecryptfs and handle it manually if you want to
[13:03] <TJ-> Yowl: If the ecryptfs pass-phrase gets out of sync with your user  password you'll log-in to find none of the expected files in /home/$USER/, for example.
[13:03] <shomon> hiya, I was copying stuff and the computer got unplugged and now that drive won't mount..
[13:03] <shomon> it gives me this message: http://pastebin.com/jJUJTfR0
[13:04] <Yowl> TJ-: So I can have my encrypted content unlocked and remain unlockthrough multiple logins and outs, and visa versa, I can have it locked and remain locked with multiple logins and outs?
[13:04] <shomon> I don't have windows but I could make a hiren's boot cd and boot from it perhaps.
[13:04] <Yowl> well, visa versa was the wrong word there
[13:06] <shomon> is there an ubuntu way to fix the problem? a unix way even?
[13:07] <Yowl> Chef:  Do you know?
[13:08] <Chef> I don't, sorry.
[13:08] <Chef> I encrypt, then decrypt after using it.
[13:08] <Yowl> Chef: Don't you mean the other way around?
[13:09] <Chef> Yes, sorry.
[13:09] <Yowl> Chef: And you decrypt by logging in as X user?
[13:09] <Chef> I don't know if there's a way to preserve its state if you log in or out.
[13:09] <Chef> No, using commandline.
[13:09] <Chef> ecryptfs-mount-private and ecryptfs-umount-private
[13:10] <Yowl> Chef: So you log in, run  a command line with password. It descrypts. What would happen if you restarted your PC, would it be crypted or unencrypted?
[13:11] <Chef> Crypted.. I think.
[13:11] <Chef> Lemme test it.
[13:12] <dandan_> I am trying to run a MAKE command to compile a kernel for my Samsung phone. I have to correct cross-compile toolchain and it works, however I keep getting this error message: http://pastie.org/8386593 I am on Ubuntu 12.04. The weird thing is, this ONLY HAPPENS, when I have ran sudo apt-get upgrade. If I leave all packages not upgraded, then MAKE works fine. This only happened after upgrading all packages (after initial install from the
[13:13] <Chef> Yowl, it's crypted
[13:14] <Yowl> thanks
[13:14] <dandan_> Does anyone know why my MAKE command won't work?
[13:14] <Chef> What are you compiling? What does it report?
[13:15] <dandan_> I am trying to run a MAKE command to compile a kernel for my Samsung phone. I have to correct cross-compile toolchain and it works, however I keep getting this error message: http://pastie.org/8386593 I am on Ubuntu 12.04. The weird thing is, this ONLY HAPPENS, when I have ran sudo apt-get upgrade. If I leave all packages not upgraded, then MAKE works fine. This only happened after upgrading all packages (after initial install from the
[13:16] <Yowl> Chef So what happens with encrypted content if you delete your current version/distro of linux and make a new one?
[13:16] <Chef> For me, it's deleted
[13:17] <Chef> I think you can copy over ~/.ecryptfs
[13:17] <Chef> I'm not sure
[13:17] <Yowl> Chief All the encrypted content within would be deleted?
[13:17] <dandan_> Chef: I am trying to compile a kernel for my Samsung Galaxy Note 3. I was able to successfully do this until I upgraded all my packages and then I started getting the error shown here: http://pastie.org/8386593
[13:18] <Chef> dandan_: What packages are being updated between the upgrade?
[13:18] <Chef> Yowl, truecrypt allows you to have a portable encrypted container
[13:19] <TJ-> dandan_: Show us /home/dan/android/kernel/arch/arm/include/asm/stackprotector.h
[13:19] <qbalazs> Quick probably strange question, but does anyone know where an up to date "rpm-ized" version of debootstrap could be found?
[13:19] <TJ-> dandan_: The likely cause is, your build script is including system include files that have #defines that are affecting your build
[13:20] <Yowl> Chef:  What differences are there between truecrypt and eCryptfs?
[13:20] <TJ-> truecrypt is a block-level system the same as dm-crypt
[13:21] <Yowl> TJ-: And what does block level system mean?
[13:22] <TJ-> Yowl: block devices... those that allocate space in blocks (usually sectors)
[13:22] <dandan_> Here is the file stackprotector.h http://pastie.org/8386625
[13:22] <TJ-> dandan_: thanks
[13:23] <TJ-> dandan_: Do you see the error? Your make fails with a report of an unexpected semi-colon on line 32. "canary ^= LINUX_VERSION_CODE;" ... which tells me that LINUX_VERSION_CODE has not been defined and is null/empty
[13:24] <dandan_> Why has LINUX VERSION CODE not been defined when previously it must have been defined if I could MAKE okay?
[13:25] <TJ-> dandan_: That file is including "#include <linux/version.h>" which, because of the <> markers, it will look for in the system include directory /usr/include/
[13:25] <Yowl> TJ-: Meaning the Encrypted space is set, like a partition?
[13:25] <TJ-> dandan_: So check /usr/include/linux/version.h
[13:26] <TJ-> Yowl: forget the partition, it is a file-system - it could live inside a file (if it is loopback mounted) as in, for example, virtualised systems
[13:27] <nrdb> I have just setup a KVM with libvirt :-) ... now I want to add a bridge in the host just for the VMs to use (i.e. not connected to the LAN) .... how can I do this?
[13:28] <compdoc> nrdb, a virtual network should already exist
[13:28] <ikonia> nrdb: that is setup by default on the private lan
[13:28] <dandan_> TJ-: The contents of usr/include/linux/version.h is: #define LINUX_VERSION_CODE 197170 #define KERNEL_VERSION(a,b,c) (((a) << 16) + ((b) << 8) + (c))
[13:28] <TJ-> dandan_: My bet is, you've not set the include directories correctly in your build scripts and instead of reading the "linux/version.h" relative to your Android kernel source-code root directory, they're reading from the host system
[13:29] <nrdb> compdoc, it does but it has a dhcp etc.. allready going on it, and NATs to the internet... I don't want this.
[13:29] <asandyz> hi
[13:29] <TJ-> dandan_: Best thing to do is capture make's build messages to a log-file and review it to check
[13:29] <Yowl> TJ-: Is the space within set, like a partitions is?
[13:29] <compdoc> nrdb, you can create another virtual net without nat. called isolated
[13:29] <compdoc> or delete teh default and recreate it
[13:30] <asandyz> can anybody say where i can find irc channel for bash programming?
[13:30] <TJ-> Yowl: I suggest you read up on operating system fundamentals regarding block devices and encryption, these questions really are outside Ubuntu support
[13:30] <dandan_> TJ-: I am running this Ubuntu in a Virtualbox virtual machine. The makefile was already generated by Samsung so I just followed their instructions to build (which are short, just ARCH=arm and then set the def_config file and then "make" and all should work, which it was doing, but now not
[13:30] <k1l> !alis | asandyz
[13:30] <nrdb> compdoc, ok ... but how do I setup /etc/network/interfaces to do that... I have tried a couple of guesses but they didn't work.
[13:31] <asandyz> ubottu:  thanks
[13:31] <ikonia> nrdb: you don't need to do anything
[13:31] <TJ-> dandan_: Sorry, I can't help you much more on that. My advice, as always, is capture the logs and read them and the error messages, and then work back to figure out why the bad state could have occurred
[13:31] <ikonia> nrdb: libvirt already has a private lan setup when you install it
[13:31] <asandyz> ubottu: :D
[13:31] <ikonia> nrdb: use the libvirt interface to make an internal network if that's not what you want
[13:31] <compdoc> nrdb, I use virt-manager for that. you only need to set up /etc/network/interfaces if you have a seperate nic, or need to create a bridge to the real lan
[13:32] <dandan_> TJ-: Okay, thanks, I am going to capture the output and have a look at that
[13:32] <nrdb> ikonia, yes I know.. but it isn't suitable.
[13:32] <ikonia> nrdb: how is it not suitable ? what's wrong with it
[13:33] <TJ-> dandan_: As I said earlier, the root cause is that LINUX_VERSION_CODE is NOT being defined, and you know the file where it *should* be defined, so focus on which file in the file-system is being read at that point and what its contents are.
[13:33] <nrdb> compdoc, oh.... I didn't know that was there...
[13:33] <nrdb> compdoc, I will get back to you if I have trouble..
[13:34] <nrdb> ikonia, the default is NATed to the internet ... I wanted an isolated one
[13:34] <ikonia> nrdb: it doesn't have to be - it's one flag to change it
[13:34] <dandan_> TJ-: Do you have any idea why upgrading packages after initial distro install would break this? And why it worked previous to this?
[13:34] <dean> Hey guys what ca bundle does curl use in Ubuntu? I'm trying to add a new certificate and it doesn't seem to be picking it up.
[13:34] <dandan_> TJ-: Just curious why it broke is all
[13:35] <asandyz> Hp cooling technology , is it useable by ubuntu?
[13:35] <ikonia> asandyz: has it is controlled/managed ?
[13:35] <asandyz> i dint get it
[13:35] <ikonia> asandyz: how is it used, is it a hardware device, a software device,
[13:36] <TJ-> dandan_: The only thing I can imagine that'd be obvious is if a new linux-headers packages is installed
[13:36] <asandyz> ikonia:  its hardware device, came with Hp ( win8) pre installed
[13:36] <dandan_> I think that is what happened!
[13:36] <ikonia> asandyz: so what is the device called, does it have linux support ?
[13:37] <Yowl> TJ-: Just is the space within when using truecrypt flexible or static, yes or no?
[13:38] <dandan_> TJ-: LINUX_VERSION_CODE   IS defined in that file, so why is it saying its not?
[13:38] <ikonia> why is this anything to do with ubuntu ?
[13:40] <TJ-> dandan_: If that is the case I suspect your build script is picking up a new header file. Try this, to find any system-level versions: "ls  /lib/modules/*/build/include/linux/version.h"
[13:40] <dilan> hola
[13:41] <dandan_> TJ-: I get this output: ls: cannot access /lib/modules/*/build/include/linux/version.h: No such file or directory
[13:42] <TJ-> dandan_: OK, so that file doesn't exist in the system... might explain your issue, *if* that is the one your build script expects. You really need to ask the build-script creators/maintainers though.
[13:43] <dilan> hi
[13:43] <Yowl> TJ-: Did you see my question?
[13:43] <dilan> hello
[13:43] <tmacfalcon> bloody monday
[13:44] <TJ-> Yowl: I told you earlier, you need to go do our own research if it is important. It is not an Ubuntu related support issue.
[13:45] <dandan_> TJ-: Ok, well I doubt I will get a response from Samsung any time soon.. Do you have any suggestions to fix it?
[13:45] <Yowl> TJ-: Just looking for a simple yes/no as to whether the space is static. It is something I am trying to do with ubuntu, even if it might not be something specific with ubuntus files. And it would take you less time to answer then it would to say that
[13:46] <TJ-> dandan_: Find other people in the Android community that are using that same source-code bundle
[13:46] <dandan_> TJ-: When I run apt-get upgrade, I get this: The following packages have been kept back:   linux-headers-generic-lts-raring linux-image-generic-lts-raring 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 2 not upgraded.
[13:46] <TJ-> dandan_: Try using "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"
[13:46] <dilan> quien habla español
[13:47] <dandan_> TJ-: Could that be why I have issues?
[13:47] <TJ-> !es | dilan
[13:47] <TJ-> dandan_: Well yes, since the linux-headers packages contain that file amongst others :)
[13:48] <dandan_> TJ-: Silly linux, why does it hold back those two updates?
[13:48] <TJ-> dandan_: But there's something wrong with your build environment if the host's include files are being read. The only files that should be read are the Android device's kernel source tree!
[13:48] <TJ-> dandan_: apt holds back anything that is a "new" package - i.e., not just an existing package with a version update.
[13:49] <dilan> quit
[13:50] <dandan_> TJ-: Thank you for all the help. Do you have any advice or resources on setting up a build environment? I've followed some tutorials from XDA and other sites to setup an Android build environment and it was working until my apt-get upgrade.
[13:50] <TJ-> dandan_: XDA is the place if any
[13:51] <TJ-> dandan_: I wrote on article on cross-building for Android on Ubuntu a while back. It may not be entirely up-to-date but it might help you: http://tjworld.net/wiki/Linux/Kernel/ARMCrossCompileOnIntel
[13:52] <dandan_> TJ-: I just looked in my kernel source tree, under include/linux/version.h and indeed #define LINUX_VERSION_CODE is blank :/
[13:53] <TJ-> dandan_: That explains it then :) do a "grep -rn LINUX_VERSION_CODE *.h" starting at the root of your Android kernel source tree, see which if any files mention it
[13:59] <nyker> what versions of ios are supported in ubuntu 13.04?
[13:59] <ikonia> none
[13:59] <ikonia> there is no official apple support
[13:59] <fidel> ios as in cisco or ios as in apple?
[13:59] <fidel> ;)
[13:59] <ep103> so when I install now, I don't specify root / home / swap sizes?
[13:59] <deibuji>  hi guys, i have a vm running under KVM, and i've created a new virtio disk drive, which i've created the partition and file system for, will mount if I manually mount it, but it won't mount it automatically if I mount it using fstab. i'm using labels to mount the disk in fstab
[13:59] <nyker> how about ifuse and libmobiledevice?
[14:00] <ikonia> deibuji: mount it where, in the host or the guest ?
[14:00] <deibuji> ikonia: sorry, should have said, in the guest
[14:00] <ikonia> deibuji: what's the error ?
[14:01] <deibuji> ikonia: there is no error
[14:01] <ikonia> deibuji: then it's mounted
[14:01] <deibuji> ikonia: it isn't. i've checked mount and it doesn't show
[14:02] <deibuji> ikonia: i've also done mount -a and I get no errors
[14:02] <ikonia> deibuji: can you pastebin your fstab from the guest please.
[14:03] <kostkon> nyker, raring has libimobiledevice3 1.1.4. you could check which devices are supported bu that version
[14:03] <kostkon> !info libimobiledevice3 raring
[14:03] <deibuji> ikonia: i think i might have just done a massive noob mistake... i've mounted the other driver as /
[14:03] <deibuji> drive(
[14:04] <zhaolu> hello
[14:04] <zhaolu> ?
[14:05] <zhaolu> anyboby?
[14:05] <Funkt> hi there anyone know how i can make the thumbs bigger in the file browser
[14:05] <DJones> !anybody | zhaolu
[14:06] <fidel> !ask | zhaolu
[14:06] <deibuji> ikonia: sorry about that. i feel like one of my users! cheers :)
[14:10] <foofoobar> Hi. I just got a new notebook with ubuntu. It has a HD screen, so all content is really small. I remember there was some feature on apples osx where you can "adapt" content to retina (so it looks bigger)
[14:10] <foofoobar> Is there such a feature for ubuntu, too ?
[14:11] <ikonia> foofoobar: what is the resolution of the screen ?
[14:12] <CTravain> ciao
[14:13] <foofoobar> ikonia, 1920x1080 I think
[14:13] <foofoobar> There is no option to set it lower
[14:13] <deibuji> lol yep, rebooted and it's there cheers ikonia .was looking at it and thinking 'what have I done wrong?! where's the error message'. cheers.:)
[14:14] <ikonia> foofoobar: just increase the font size,
[14:15] <amunoz>  Hi, Can someone who is using gnome 3.10 and the gnome-tweak-tool reproduce this bug?
[14:15] <amunoz> https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=709597
[14:15] <pgib> Hello. I have an Ubuntu machine where the display goes "out of range" immediately after posting, I don't even see a Grub prompt or kernel uncompress.
[14:15] <pgib> Unfortunately, there is no SSH server running either.  Any nifty ways to get it to boot with a normal 80x25 char video mode?
[14:16] <foofoobar> ikonia, ok, I will try
[14:16] <dandan_> TJ-: I have added the linux version code to kernel_source_tree/include/linux/version.h and I am still getting the same MAKE error on line 32 of stackprotector.h
[14:17] <hermeneuticdue> hihi
[14:17] <lucenut> Anyone here dabbled with ubuntu-touch?
[14:18] <foofoobar> ikonia, where do I increase the font size?
[14:19] <foofoobar> Is there some general setting for this?
[14:19] <lsvr> universal access, large font button?
[14:19] <ikonia> foofoobar: is there nothing in the settings on this ?
[14:19] <lsvr> dash,universal,select large fonts
[14:21] <foofoobar> ok
[14:21] <foofoobar> this looks a bit strange, cause window title etc. keep the same
[14:21] <TJ-> dandan_: Which suggests that's not the file your build scripts are actually reading. You'll need to enable make debug logging and trace which files are being read, and correct any errors in the tree root being assumed
[14:22] <lsvr> foofoobar: logging out and in again may fix that (can't remember)
[14:23] <foofoobar> ok I try, ty
[14:23] <zexcriz> can i have multiple instance of ubuntu running side by side ?
[14:23] <zexcriz> same version 13.04 ?
[14:24] <TJ-> foofoobar: I think the setting you need is the one that adjusts the DPI (dots per inch) but like so many other useful features, Gnome-settings and Unity have removed them from the GUIs so you'll need to find and change them using dconf-editor, if they still exist
[14:26] <dandan_> TJ-: How do I enable make debug logging?
[14:27] <TJ-> dandan_: I think you need to immerse yourself in the build system documentation, to understand it... make especially, but also gcc and the kernel's specific build system. You're out of your depth right now.
[14:28] <hay> hi all.. is there a way to add a patch file to a installed package via "apt-get install" command? Or do I have to compile and install app from source?
[14:28] <dandan_> TJ-:  Ok I appreciate that, any idea on a starting point?
[14:29] <pgib> meh.. no ideas on this video issue? I was hoping there might be some key to smash for Grub to make it use a more normal graphics mode
[14:29] <TJ-> dandan_: XDA of course, the AOSP web-site has some great tutorials on building Android, and the ##linux channel here might help
[14:29] <pgib> blindly editing kernel boot lines doesn't seem practical. I guess I need to try booting from another device
[14:30] <TJ-> pgib: If you can get to the GRUB boot menu with the shift key held down, you can add "nomodeset" to the kernel's command line
[14:30] <dandan_> TJ-: Thank you for your help... You can understand my frustration when at first it worked, I compiled a working kernel that booted on my Galaxy Note 3, and then I update Ubuntu and it breaks :(
[14:30] <pgib> ok, shift key will cause grub to be interactive? thanks TJ-
[14:31] <TJ-> pgib: If the screen is out-of-range when BIOS/firmware hands over to GRUB, that suggests the BIOS/firmware has put the GPU into graphics mode, and therefore check the settings in BIOS/firmware
[14:31] <semitones> I think my flash drive is broken. fdisk says /dev/sdb is read only. What else could cause this?
[14:31] <semitones> (btw I don't have any important data on it)
[14:31] <TJ-> dandan_: Yeah... I think actually you were 'lucky' in that the Ubuntu linux-headers happened to match what the build system was looking for
[14:32] <pgib> TJ-, Ok, I'll check that too. If I choose an incorrect device to boot from, then I do at least get the blinking cursor at row 0 col 0 after bootstraping
[14:33] <TJ-> pgib: I suspect GRUB is configured to use graphics mode and uses the wrong one. If you can boot once, edit /etc/default/grub and enable "GRUB_TERMINAL=console" then "sudo update-grub"
[14:35] <pgib> Yeah, I'll see if the Shift key trick works, otherwise I'll boot from a Live CD, edit /etc/default/grub as you mention (thanks, I would have missed that one) and menu.lst or whatever to make sure the kernel mode is right too
[14:35] <schnitzl> hi. what is the smartest way to make an image of a win ssd. i googled. partimage does not work (experimental ntfs support), dd seems NOT to be an good idea because it writes 0 blocks and i use an ssd. any ideas? (i could use clonezilla, but since i have a running ubuntu partiotion i dont want to prepare another usb drive)
[14:35] <pgib> schnitzl wait.. you want to make an image file from a SSD device?
[14:35] <TJ-> pgib: If the system has grub2 then there is no menu.lst. The "update-grub" regenerates "/boot/grub/grub.cfg"
[14:36] <schnitzl> pgib,  exactly. like a backup image from a windows ssd.
[14:36] <pgib> schnitzl, so what is wrong with dd?
[14:36] <schnitzl> it writes,as far as i read, all the blocks, even if they are unused (0), which is not good for ssd devices.
[14:36] <TJ-> schnitzl: Using dd, look at the "sparse" option that seeks over NUL blocks
[14:37] <pgib> I don't see why zero blocks are a problem unique to SSD though...
[14:37] <schnitzl> i must have overread this... i should do my homework better :) thanks.
[14:37] <pgib> you are just reading, ==
[14:37] <OerHeks> pgib +1
[14:37] <schnitzl> its mentioned especially int he german ubuntu wiki
[14:37] <schnitzl> with a big "!"
[14:37] <pgib> perhaps writing zero blocks to a SSD is dumb, but I don't see a problem with reading
[14:38] <schnitzl> well. pgib someday...i have to write it back...
[14:38] <semitones> can I find out why /dev/sdb is read only?
[14:39] <pgib> then you use sparse when dd'ing from the image to the disk
[14:39] <pgib> you don't really need it when reading
[14:39] <schnitzl> ok, perfect. thanks mate.
[14:39] <schnitzl> dd if=/dev/sdb | gzip > ~/image-compress_sdb.img.gz   this makes sense, does it?
[14:40] <TJ-> Errr, yes you might want it on reading! So that the back-up image file is sparse... saves space
[14:40] <ikonia> schnitzl: no
[14:40] <pgib> schnitzl, I'd probably set a blocksize
[14:40] <schnitzl> okay okay. so i want it on reading too..?! :((
[14:40] <ikonia> and an "outfile"
[14:40] <pgib> ikonia, it doesn't need of=
[14:40] <pgib> it writed to stdout by default
[14:40] <ikonia> pgib: does it ?
[14:40] <pgib> afaik, yes
[14:40] <schnitzl> haha.
[14:41] <pgib> otherwise you couldn't make a pipeline
[14:41] <TJ-> schnitzl: Unless you don't mind the file you're creating containing a lot of nothing (if the source device has a lot of emptiness)
[14:41] <ikonia> pgib: ahh tht's true,
[14:41] <pgib> or, you'd need something like -of=--
[14:41] <schnitzl> TJ-, i dont want that. dont have space to waste
[14:41] <pgib> I mean of=--
[14:41] <MangaKaDenza> allright
[14:41] <MangaKaDenza> So I want to play wma files
[14:41] <MangaKaDenza> in rythymbox
[14:41] <MangaKaDenza> or whatever
[14:42] <MangaKaDenza> but it dont work none
[14:42] <pgib> TJ-, the image is being gzipped, that should nicely compress most of those runs of zero bytes, no?
[14:43] <TJ-> pgib: If writing to stdout ... not sure how sparse would work :D
[14:43] <pgib> TJ-, but he just needs to sparse when writing
[14:43] <TJ-> pgib: schnitzl sparse is probably a Non-Op for stdout
[14:43] <asdf999> Hello everybody, can somebody please explain why I'm getting black screen (fivth time) when trying to install drivers for AMD 7950, tried via software center and terminal (but via proptiery drivers and open tested) on Xubuntu 13.04
[14:43] <osakasa> hello, when you get a lot of bug report about rhythbox crashes after playing one song (:D) in ubuntu 13.10, it can be fixed by setting crossfade duration and time 0,0 seconds
[14:43] <OerHeks> MangaKaDenza, wma+drm might not play, check it with VLC
[14:44] <osakasa> well "fix" but that helps you to play even more than one song
[14:44] <OerHeks> !13.10 | osakasa
[14:44] <MangaKaDenza> :>
[14:44] <MangaKaDenza> hmm
[14:44] <MangaKaDenza> wat aboot mp4 ?
[14:44] <schnitzl> and just plain and simple dd if=/dev/sda of=/dev/sdb TJ- pgib and all the others :D
[14:45] <pgib> TJ-, I was thinking  dd if=/dev/foo bs=1024 | gzip > foo.img ; then later: gunzip foo.img | dd of=/dev/bar bs=1024 sparse
[14:45] <TJ-> schnitzl: for writing to another block device, using "sparse" and something like "bs=100M" would be optimum
[14:46] <TJ-> schnitzl: Make the block-size as large as RAM allows, I've used 2G before now for moving TB-sized images about effeciently
[14:46] <pgib> hmm.. but wouldn't that require a run of 100M zeros to be considered a zero block?
[14:46] <schnitzl> what does the block size make? like the size of the files copied?
[14:46] <pgib> thus, sparse wouldn't be as effective
[14:46] <pgib> I'd pick the block size used natively by the SSD's controller personally
[14:46] <schnitzl> i have 8gb ram. the disk i want to clone is a new plain and simple win8.1 installation..maybe 10 gigs?? not sure.
[14:47] <TJ-> schnitzl: Larhe block-size means the read operation can vacuum up loads of sectors in one operation (resulting in multi-sector reads)
[14:47] <lesshaste> what is the ubuntu dev channel?
[14:47] <pgib> but, it also means that one byte set in a 100M region will still cause 100M minus one byte of zeros to be written
[14:47] <TJ-> lesshaste: The place where Ubuntu OS developers and packages communicate
[14:47] <lesshaste> go tit
[14:49] <asdf999> Hello everybody, can somebody please explain why I'm getting black screen (fivth time) when trying to install drivers for AMD 7950, tried via software center and terminal (but via proptiery drivers and open tested) on Xubuntu 13.04
[14:49] <TJ-> pgib: I thought that dd's "sparse" flag simply sets the sparse flag on the underlying target block device
[14:51] <pgib> TJ-, according to my man page, it causes dd to seek the write file past blocks of null bytes
[14:51] <lesshaste> what is happening with xpdf? It is 100% broken in 13.04  but this doesn't seem to be urgent . is it now deprecated as a pdf viewer?
[14:51] <pgib> thus, if you are working with the SSD's native block size, that seek would probably prevent the SSD's controller from allocating a block
[14:52] <mgedmin> xpdf is in universe; it was never officially supported
[14:52] <mgedmin> you do not like Evince?
[14:52] <lesshaste> mgedmin, ah.. I didn't know universe was unsupported!
[14:52] <pgib> but.. I could be wrong.
[14:52] <TJ-> pgib: Yeah, which on a sparse-enabled block file-system should cause no NUL blocks to be allocated
[14:52] <oo_miguel> so finally I managed to install the firmware for my wlan0 interfae and can proceed with the installer. however after selecting a mirror. the complete screen is just magenta, with a gray line at the bottom, where i just can type, without any effect
[14:52] <TJ-> pgib: Amazing how complicated it can get!
[14:52] <oo_miguel> it seems the installer hangs or crashed here
[14:52] <mgedmin> unsupported by Canonical, to be precise; another way of saying "supported by the Ubuntu community" which, apparently, doesn't care about xpdf enough to fix it
[14:53] <pgib> yeah..
[14:53] <mgedmin> (I didn't even know it was broken; I haven't used xpdf in _years_)
[14:53] <schnitzl> TJ-, ask me about it... :((
[14:53] <TJ-> schnitzl: :D
[14:53] <schnitzl> you guys know what you are talking about..
[14:53] <schnitzl> but me just loling
[14:53] <schnitzl> ;)
[14:53]  * TJ- rolls eyes ... you think?
[14:54] <schnitzl> hehe seems so.
[14:54] <pgib> schnitzl, anyway, You are safe to make you image right now without any concerns
[14:55] <pgib> just do the recipe you or I suggested, and that should be fine, use a larger blocksize if it makes it faster, it doesn't matter
[14:55] <lolol> Best programming language for begineeerssss??
[14:55] <lolol> need some thoughts
[14:55] <somsip> !best | lolol
[14:55] <pgib> you just want to be more careful when writing. (ideally the block size you choose will be aligned with the size of your SSD's allocation units)
[14:56] <lolol> sompsip : what did you say?
[14:56] <OerHeks> lolol, english, and irc'ing as root is risky.
[14:56] <schnitzl> do you think the "all in one tools" like clonezilla image would to a better job than dd?
[14:56] <pgib> and actually, choosing your filesystem's block-size could be a good pick, since that is the least-common-denominator
[14:57] <pgib> schnitzl, not better. maybe simpler
[14:58] <SonikkuAmerica> schnitzl: dd is rather straightforward, just a little more terminal-savvy
[14:58] <schnitzl> i would like that. yea.
[14:59] <zhaolu> 有没有中文
[14:59] <pgib> schnitzl: dumpe2fs /dev/foo | grep 'Block size'
[14:59] <schnitzl> dump2fs ?
[14:59] <pgib> That is the block size of your ext2 filesystem.  It is probably fairly small (4096 or so)
[14:59] <pgib> schnitzl: dumpe2fs
[14:59] <rypervenche> !cn | zhaolu
[15:00] <schnitzl> i want to backup a ntfs win partition ;)
[15:00] <pgib> oh yeah.. I forgot
[15:00] <pgib> stupid filesystems
[15:01] <schnitzl> i want to clone the whole drive....so i just go with this: dd if=/dev/sdb bs=100M | gzip > ~/image-compress_sdb.img.gz
[15:01] <schnitzl> well clone: "clone to an image"
[15:01] <pgib> yeah, that will clone the whole drive.  are you sure you wish to restore the whole drive though?
[15:02] <pgib> partition table and all
[15:02] <schnitzl> i dont want to install my basic windows system as soon is wasted it. so i just installed win8.1 + drivers + some basic tools. the idea is to just recover the image i made with dd and not to go through the whole install process again.
[15:03] <pgib> ok, as long as your destination drive is at least as large as the source
[15:03] <pgib> I suppose you may be able to grow or add a partition in windows afterwards
[15:03] <schnitzl> external 1tb usb3.0, yes. it is ;)
[15:03] <pgib> a 1TB SSD? wow
[15:04] <schnitzl> and it shouldnt copy the empty blocks, does it? i dont want an imag eof 100gb of zeros
[15:04] <pgib> schnitzl, you will have an image of 100gb of zeros, but it should compress nicely
[15:04] <MangaKaDenza> ktanks
[15:04] <oo_miguel> what can be the reason for the installation hanging after selecting a mirror just with a gray line at the bottom, where i can type without any effect... the computer i am trying to install ubunut on does not have any harddisks, might this be the reason?
[15:05] <schnitzl> and how to change that, i mean, when i decompress and rewrite the image to the disc, it will write the zeros, or can i prevent that?
[15:05] <pgib> you want to prevent it with sparse, as mentioned before
[15:05] <boyslim> galera to com ubuntu 11.10 quero atualizalo para o mais recente via terminal tem como fazer isso,me deem essa força galera
[15:06] <schnitzl> sparse. ok. gonna read about that.
[15:06] <schnitzl> thank you man :D
[15:06] <pgib> maybe something like   gunzip foo.gz | dd of=/dev/new bs=4k sparse
[15:06] <schnitzl> this bs thing still is weird for me. i dont understand why it just doesnt make it like the original.
[15:06] <schnitzl> i have no idea how to find the "optimum"
[15:06] <pgib> "make it like original"?
[15:07] <schnitzl> use the same bs as the original
[15:07] <schnitzl> like the source**
[15:07] <pgib> schnitzl, the original what?
[15:07] <pgib> block size for dd just means how big of a chunk does it copy at a time
[15:08] <leandroal> what package should I have to install to allow acroread understand asian fonts? It says that it is necessary to install Japonese Language Fonts...
[15:08] <pgib> some multiple of the source's sector size should be appropriate
[15:08] <schnitzl> ahh ok.
[15:08] <pgib> however, you need a balance if you want sparse to work effectively
[15:09] <pgib> if you did bs=1g, then even if a single bit is true in that whole 1 gigabyte block, the block will be written, zeros and all
[15:09] <pgib> versus something like bs=4k, only a 4k block will be written for a single 1 bit. all the other blocks will be skipped
[15:09] <schnitzl> i can make it pretty small i think, since i have fast hardware + the source is small
[15:10] <pgib> yeah.. it would be a one-time cost for you during the restore
[15:11] <schnitzl> thats ok. i mean are we talking about hours, or more minutes...what does a fresh out of the box windows install weight? maybe 10 gigs...so thats nothing
[15:11] <schnitzl> i will go with 100mb. seems "smart" to me. but now, thanks to you guys, i udnerstand a little bit of that process.
[15:12] <pgib> I'd probably go down further for the restore, but that's just me
[15:13] <ramindia> hey all iam having issue sun quad port cards
[15:13] <schnitzl> pgib,  what do you think?
[15:13] <schnitzl> suggest*
[15:13] <ramindia> the mac address keep in changeing
[15:13] <ramindia> sun 501 5406 model
[15:15] <ramindia> not able to bind the cards
[15:15] <ramindia> for specific interface..the MAC keep changing
[15:16] <schnitzl> pgib, check this out. intersting: http://superuser.com/questions/234199/good-block-size-for-disk-cloning-with-diskdump-dd
[15:17] <pgib> I'd chose the smallest possible before it is super fucking slow
[15:17] <ikonia> pgib: tone down the language please.
[15:17] <pgib> ? ok
[15:17] <pgib> You want to avoid the SSD allocating empty blocks
[15:17] <ramindia> SUN 501-5460 sorry
[15:18]  * ochawkeye slaps pgib around a bit with a large trout
[15:18] <schnitzl> hehe yea. so i am with 10megs.
[15:18] <ikonia> ochawkeye_: don't need that sort of thing please, don't
[15:18] <pgib> (bs when creating the image is not important in this regard, choose something big, maybe 32M or so)
[15:19] <pgib> I'd say around 64k is a good compromise when restoring
[15:19] <schnitzl> ok
[15:25] <r4nd0m> hey guys
[15:25] <r4nd0m> i am new in UBUNTU unvierse ^
[15:25] <r4nd0m> and i have a question
[15:25] <r4nd0m> simple question ^^
[15:26] <r4nd0m> maybe someone could help :)
[15:26] <r4nd0m> that would be aswome
[15:26] <ikonia> you need to ask a question to get an answer
[15:26] <r4nd0m> ;)
[15:26] <r4nd0m> i tryed to start tor
[15:26] <r4nd0m> i downloadet in the software center
[15:27] <r4nd0m> tor & interface
[15:27] <mn3na3a> question, what is the usage of Timidity?
[15:27] <r4nd0m> when i open VALADIA
[15:28] <r4nd0m> error: could not start tor - check options
[15:29] <r4nd0m> menu1: starting tor when Vidalia starting - :/usr/sbin/tor
[15:29] <r4nd0m> i click - ok
[15:30] <r4nd0m> error : couldnt save cause ControlSocket pfad insnt existing
[15:31] <r4nd0m> i think the problem is : "/car/run/tor/control" isnt existing
[15:32] <Pinkamena_D> Hello, I just swapped my ubuntu drive to a toshib a laptop and now after being on the desktop for a minute or so the screen turns to a bunch of pixels and no connands will respond
[15:32] <r4nd0m> was ist ein ControlSocket
[15:32] <r4nd0m> what is a ControlSocket
[15:32] <cgtdk> !de | r4nd0m
[15:33] <Pinkamena_D> ctrl alt f1 and chat using irssi like right now it does not freeze
[15:33] <Pinkamena_D> something about x
[15:35] <geak> helo
[15:36] <r4nd0m> could someone help me to start TOR please!
[15:36] <cgtdk> !patience r4nd0m
[15:36] <cgtdk> !patience | r4nd0m
[15:37] <r4nd0m> ya thx
[15:38] <MonkeyDust> r4nd0m  tor is no match for NSA, if that's what you want it for
[15:39] <geak> why ubuntu？ we have debian
[15:39] <cgtdk> geak: Go away
[15:39] <cgtdk> !offtopic | geak
[15:39] <fishcooker> i've 13.04 box with vnc server how to make the box screen show the as same as on the remote box ?
[15:40] <geak> why go away？
[15:40] <Ari-Yang> !12.10
[15:41] <Ari-Yang> huh, 12.10's EOL is  April 2014 :o
[15:41] <cgtdk> geak: It's an annoying question and it's off topic. This is a support channel.
[15:45] <geak> no topic？
[15:45] <Pici> geak: This channel is for Ubuntu support only.
[15:45] <Pici> It is not a discussion channel.
[15:46] <geak> ok
[15:46] <Ari-Yang> geak: for offtopic discussion, there's #ubuntu-offtopic
[15:46] <Ari-Yang> that's like the lounge
[15:46] <geak> thx
[15:46] <Ari-Yang> np~
[15:47] <geak> np？
[15:47] <dman777_alter> i install conntrack, but the table /proc/net/ip_conntrack is still missing. i verified with lsmod the module is loaded
[15:48] <Ari-Yang> geak: np == no problem
[15:49] <geak> sorry i am a mars
[15:50] <daniel11> Hello my friend's windows computer wont boot. I have suggested he install ubuntu and we are currently looking at a USB live system, which is running on the computer where we will install ubuntu. We want to back up his windows files first, but his NTFS partition has auto-mounted and cant be read (sudo blkid confirms it is NTFS). the command ls gives a "Input/Output Error" on the mount point.
[15:50] <TJ-> dman777_alter: Have you configured netfilters conntrack rules?
[15:50] <daniel11> are we essentially looking at a fucked ntfs partition then? any other things to try?
[15:50] <dman777_alter> TJ-: no, i thought it kept track of all connections regardless.
[15:51] <dman777_alter> TJ-: i don't have any ip tables rules on my gentoo system and /proc/net/ip_conntrack populates
[15:51] <TJ-> dman777_alter: Are other nf_conntrack_* modules also loaded?
[15:52] <OerHeks> daniel11, install ntfs-3g to access the NTFS partition
[15:52] <daniel11> thanks oerheks
[15:52] <dman777_alter> TJ-: not on ubuntu
[15:52] <OerHeks> !ntfs-3g
[15:52] <TJ-> dman777_alter: That might explain it... looking at 2 of my servers with the table present, there are lots of nf_conntrack_* modules in use
[15:53] <mrrcp> how to i tell ssh in terminal not to use my pub key
[15:53] <mrrcp> so i can test fail2ban
[15:54] <daniel11> thanks we are also getting a weird graphical glitching error when we press the launcher button...
[15:54] <daniel11> reluctant to install ubuntu unless we can solve that problem..
[15:55] <jitendra> jkjljlj
[15:55] <jitendra> hi
[15:56] <dman777_alter> TJ-: ok, thanks. i thoguht nf_conntrack was depcrecated
[15:56] <kongthap> i got power failure and got read only file system when login, so i did boot with Live USB and use "sudo fsck -y -c -f /dev/sda5", fsck scanned my root partition and fixed some errors, i can boot into system almost as normal but i "still periodically get read only file system", what else should i do?
[15:56] <daniel11> any ideas about the graphical glitching problem?
[15:56] <TJ-> dman777_alter: I'm looking on 12.04 servers
[15:56] <geak> how to hide the userlist
[15:56] <the-noob> anyone installed vagrant on ubuntu ? I'm getting a strange error
[15:59] <icaho> mrrcp: ssh -o PreferredAuthentications="password" user@host
[16:07] <joshu> hi on ubuntu desktop 13.04 i can't find how to enable the vnc server? has it changed since 12.04?
[16:08] <ikonia> I didn't know vnc server was installed by default
[16:10] <joshu> hi ikonia I might be mistaken but I thought prior to 12.04 there was a setting to enable the vnc server. Anyway in 13.04 I need to install it, correct?
[16:11] <ikonia> joshu: no idea, I just didn't know it was installed by default
[16:12] <lolol> Python vs Pascal?
[16:12] <ikonia> is nothing to do with this channel
[16:13] <joshu> ikonia this is what I meant…"vino" https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNC/Servers
[16:13] <dvineone> hi everyone how is it going?
[16:13] <joshu> just found it "remote sharing"
[16:14] <slipky> hello.. i have a ubuntu-server-12.04 running openldap and cups.. it is possible to make a windows client be asked for ldap authentication everytime that he send a job to the printer?
[16:15] <lolol> ikona : where can i get that can of choosing help?
[16:15] <ikonia> slipky: maybe with a pam rule ?
[16:15] <lolol> kind of *
[16:15] <ikonia> lolol: no idea, not here though, so please stop asking language V language questions
[16:15] <lolol> ok :)
[16:16] <sh4rm4> hi, what's the package name for libsdl-audio-dev ?
[16:16] <kostkon> !find libsdl
[16:17] <slipky> ikonia: i will search about that.. thanks
[16:22] <Wall543> 1
[16:24] <kongthap> i got power failure and got read only file system when login, so i did boot with Live USB and use "sudo fsck -y -c -f /dev/sda5", fsck scanned my root partition and fixed some errors, i can boot into system almost as normal but i "still periodically get read only file system", what else should i do?
[16:25] <_-^GeddY_LeE^bNc> hi
[16:26] <systime> kongthap: it's possible you may have to re-install.  fsck doesn't fix everything 100% of the time.
[16:27] <kongthap> systime: is it possible to re-install with all current setting  backup and restore???
[16:28] <systime> kongthap: I would recommend backup up what you can and using it for reference as you put the system back together.
[16:29] <kongthap> systime: what can i use for backup???
[16:30] <systime> kongthap: I prefer cpio, you could also use tar, I'm sure there are other ways
[16:30] <ramindia> any help on mac address issue sun 501 5406 model quad port ethernet pci
[16:31] <ActionParsnip> ramindia: what is the issue?
[16:31] <keanehsiao> would like to ask, I am facing "fork: Cannot allocate memory" problems, I now use 7g and machine is 32g. so it still has 25g. I create like 80 running instance. but couldn't think of any reason,  what are the possible reasons to cause it?
[16:31] <ActionParsnip> keanehsiao: what causes the warning?
[16:32] <ikonia> keanehsiao: what application are you trying to run
[16:32] <ikonia> it could be as simple as requiring a shard memory segment,
[16:32] <keanehsiao> ActionParsnip: once I start 80 instance.  I run 30 at it was fine, and I create another 50 may cause the problem.
[16:32] <keanehsiao> ikonia: ruby instance, write by my own.
[16:33] <ActionParsnip> keanehsiao: have you asked in the ruby channel?
[16:33] <ActionParsnip> keanehsiao: are there any bugs reported?
[16:33] <keanehsiao> ikonia: it works fine to create 20 instance on 4g ram machine, and may run up to 4g all, and still works fine.
[16:33] <grendal-prime> hey guys..pocketsphinx_tidigits works and i can get numbers to text ok..but the pocketsphinx_continuous to work
[16:33] <ActionParsnip> keanehsiao: what is the output of:  cat /etc/issue; uname -m
[16:33] <ikonia> keanehsiao: are you hitting a process count limit for example ?
[16:33] <kongthap> systime: thanks
[16:33] <keanehsiao> ActionParsnip: I think ruby program itself may works fine
[16:33] <systime> kongthap: np
[16:34] <keanehsiao> ikonia: perhaps, but I set anything I can image to a high number,  ex ulimit,  limit.h and some more
[16:34] <ikonia> keanehsiao: limit.h - is a header, that won't change anything on the system
[16:35] <ActionParsnip> keanehsiao: what is the output of:  cat /etc/issue; uname -m
[16:35] <keanehsiao> also set #define PIPE_BUF     	#define rtsig	#define FD_SETSIZE  #define NR_OPEN
[16:35] <ikonia> keanehsiao: that's specific to your program - again, not a system setting
[16:35] <keanehsiao> ikonia: so how can I change the process count limit?
[16:36] <ikonia> keanehsiao: that may not be the problem, I was just giving you an example
[16:36] <keanehsiao> ActionParsnip: not sure, it still "Cannot allocate memory" so I can't do anything… let me reboot and try.
[16:36] <ikonia> you can't do anything ??
[16:36] <ActionParsnip> keanehsiao: also test RAM using memtest in Grub
[16:36] <ikonia> that sounds like you may have a bad memory leak in your program
[16:37] <LordThumper> Hi. Has the Unmount option been removed from Nautilus context menu? I only have Eject
[16:37] <keanehsiao> ActionParsnip: ok
[16:37] <keanehsiao> ikonia: really? but free -m said 25g left.
[16:37] <ActionParsnip> LordThumper: do you not see the safe remove feature in the Unity panel on the left?
[16:38] <LordThumper> ActionParnsip: I do not want to "Safely remove". I want to unmount the volume, and leave the device (ex. /dev/sdb) available
[16:38] <ActionParsnip> LordThumper: i'd use CLI then :)
[16:38] <gordonjcp> LordThumper: unmount it, then
[16:39] <ActionParsnip> LordThumper: sudo umount /dev/sdb1    for example
[16:39] <LordThumper> Yes, terminal is the only option for this common action
[16:39] <gordonjcp> LordThumper: "common" for who?
[16:39] <ActionParsnip> LordThumper: if it works, why not
[16:40] <ActionParsnip> LordThumper: most users will want to remove the device physically, so eject is sensible. I can only think a few users will want to unmount but leave the device available
[16:40] <gordonjcp> LordThumper: under what normal combination of circumstances would you want to unmount the filesystem but leave the device active, for a *removable* device?
[16:40] <LordThumper> Yes but
[16:40] <gordonjcp> LordThumper: yes but nothing
[16:40] <LordThumper> Eject and Unmount where both available
[16:40] <ActionParsnip> LordThumper: its not common
[16:40] <LordThumper> In a previous build of Nautilus
[16:40] <LordThumper> Guess they removed it
[16:40] <ActionParsnip> LordThumper: you can add it with nautilus-scripts if you desire
[16:41] <gordonjcp> LordThumper: what GUI app uses an unmounted device?
[16:41] <LordThumper> Gparted
[16:41] <ActionParsnip> gordonjcp: i believe nautilus had it, but it was confusing users with 2 options for the same thing
[16:41] <LordThumper> But anyways, not blaming anyone, especially not anyone on this channel
[16:42] <gordonjcp> LordThumper: anyway it's an uncommon thing to do, way less common than "let me remove the drive"
[16:42] <LordThumper> But it is getting annoying adding everything manually, I just had to add "Open Terminal here" context menu
[16:42] <LordThumper> gordonjcp: Yeah true
[16:50] <ramindia> ActionParsnip: u here ?
[16:51] <funkt> anyone know how i can larger thumbs when using the file browser?
[16:53] <Akuw> i have this aoutput when use sudo aptitude search, what mean B and A  ?
[16:53] <Akuw> http://www.pastebin.ca/2464206
[16:55] <dandan_> TJ-: I figured out what was wrong with my MAKE problems in Ubuntu
[16:55] <TJ-> dandan_: nice one :)
[16:55] <b0x> is there an app that will allow me to quickly view PSD's in ubuntu?? similar to irfanview in windows?
[16:56] <Cera> I have just installed Ubuntu 4 weeks ago, everything was working exactly fine, but now. when I log in, and enter my password, I can only see my cursor and the ubuntu orange background, my wallpaper, panels, icons take like 70-90 seconds to load up. Like, I have to wait a lot. What is this causing this problem? Here is the output of my dmesg: http://pastebin.com/mkPSa9kw
[16:56] <b0x> they open in gimp but i dont need that functionality
[16:56] <Shane-S> where can I locate the apt-get log when it has an error code (1)
[16:57] <Cera> anybody?
[16:57] <dandan_> TJ-: The problem was that I edited the Makefile SUBLEVEL number to match the original Samsung kernel string version number, because I read somewhere that the kernel magic string needs to match the original for wifi module to work properly?
[16:58] <TJ-> dandan_: aha!
[16:58] <dandan_> TJ-:  Am I not supposed to edit that number then?
[16:58] <funkt> Hi there in 12.04 when I choose a file in the file browser the thumbnails are sooo tiny does anyone know how I can make these larger?
[17:00] <brontosaurusrex> funkt, ctrl + mice scroll?
[17:00] <TJ-> dandan_: It is there to describe to the source-code the version of Linux represented by the source-tree. You change that, and various #ifdef pre-processor directives will do something other than what ought to happen.
[17:01] <TJ-> funkt: I think the keyboard Ctrl++ and Ctrl+- will also control thumbnail size
[17:01] <funkt> hey there thanks for getting back to me alas it doesnt work :(
[17:01] <funkt> oh thanks
[17:01] <funkt> ill try that
[17:02] <funkt> nope still nothing i'm stumped
[17:02] <TJ-> funkt: I seem to recall there is something on Nautilus' view menu about zoom +/- that also shows the hot-key combo
[17:02] <dandan_> TJ-: Guess I shouldn't willy nilly make changes to Makefile that tutorials say to do to make something else work... many thanks for your help. One other question, is there any way to get a progress reading of a MAKE job?
[17:02] <grimer> did one of the latest patches hose any of you up with 3 monitors in twinview? the nvidia driver now seems to be ignoring my xorg.conf.
[17:02] <TJ-> dandan_: It'll depend on the build Makefile file itself - it may have options for quiet and verbose
[17:03] <funkt> i'm not sure what you mean?
[17:04] <dandan_> TJ-: Ok thanks
[17:05] <lionrouge> hi ^_^
[17:05] <lionrouge> is there any guide on 3d-acceleration setup in Ubuntu?
[17:05] <manish> hi
[17:13] <Extreminador> hi guys
[17:13] <ioCharSet> hello! how can i guess what iocharset has been used for a mounted network folder via samba?
[17:13] <Extreminador> is there any tool like "demon tools" for windows but for linux ?
[17:14] <gartral> Extreminador: for mounting isos?
[17:14] <Extreminador> gardar, yup...
[17:15] <gartral> Extreminador: i recomend watching who your typing to, gardar gets annoyedwhen people are responding to me
[17:16] <Extreminador> gartral,  ups lool sorry
[17:16] <gartral> Extreminador: to answer your question, yes, its built into linux and ut's si,ply called mount
[17:16] <Ari-Yang> Extreminador: Ithink there's a mount command for mounting ISOs...
[17:17] <Ari-Yang> Extreminador: I think it's mount -o loop disk1.iso /mnt/disk or something
[17:17] <Extreminador> but can we run directly the program/software ?
[17:17] <Ari-Yang> Extreminador: in terminal check out man mount or mount --help
[17:17] <Extreminador> and yehh there is a mount on the terminal indeed
[17:17] <OerHeks> https://apps.ubuntu.com/cat/applications/gisomount/
[17:18] <Extreminador> i will check it Ari-Yang thanks
[17:18] <gartral> Extreminador: the usage would be mount -o loop /path/to/disk.iso 0t iso 9660 /path/to/folder/mount and yes you can run contained software
[17:18] <OerHeks> or more options https://apps.ubuntu.com/cat/applications/furiusisomount/
[17:18] <gartral> oops -t
[17:18] <Extreminador> OerHeks, well since there is a mount already in-build on ubuntu i will lean how to use it
[17:18] <Extreminador> but thanks
[17:19] <Extreminador> gartral, thanks
[17:22] <lotuspsychje> good evening to all
[17:23] <lotuspsychje> im looking for a candycrush alternative for ubuntu (like gweled)
[17:24] <Shane-S> I am trying to run apt-get upgrade and getting drive full error, when I did df -h , I see /dev/sda1 is 228M 228M 0 100% /boot, is there any easy way to expand that?
[17:25] <Rory> Shane-S: You can delete files
[17:25] <ramindia> ActionParsnip : u there
[17:25] <Rory> Shane-S: Can you please pastebin the output of "sudo df -h"
[17:25] <tor_> anyone know why i lost sound through HDMI? it used to work but i think an update did some bad stuff. notice how HDMI seems active to the right but not present in the list to the left http://pbrd.co/1a83O45
[17:26] <Shane-S> Can't copy from the VM console sadly, I need to enable copy and paste....waiting till 3 so I can shut down the server
[17:26] <TJ-> Shane-S: think the opposite way. Delete packages installed there. "/boot/" contains the linux kernels and associated files, which get upgraded quite often, leaving older unused versions in place. Someone else here can guide you to identifying the unused packages and removing them safely
[17:26] <Rory> !pastebinit | Shane-S
[17:26] <Rory> Shane-S: In the meantime, "sudo apt-get clean"
[17:26] <TJ-> Shane-S: start with "dpkg-query -l 'linux-image*'  | grep '^ii'  " which will list installed kernel images
[17:27] <dog-food> how do I make a wifi access point I have atheros usb wifi ?
[17:27] <Shane-S> Rory / TJ: ty
[17:27] <TJ-> Shane-S: And tell us which kernel is currently booted with "uname -r" so you don't accidentally try to delete it too!
[17:27] <kkragoth> hey i tried to google this but i had no idea how. Is there a way to preview  content of folder f.x called "a" when i am doing smth like this "$ cp ~/andomfile  ~/a
[17:27] <TJ-> !hostap | dog-food
[17:28] <TJ-> !hostapd | dog-food
[17:28] <Shane-S> Rory / TJ: 3.2.0.-37-generic
[17:28] <Rory> kkragoth: ls ~/a
[17:29] <mudkip908> kkragoth: press TAB a couple times
[17:30] <resno> im looking for suggestions about union filesystems i should look into.
[17:30] <TJ-> Shane-S: Does the VM have connectivity right now? if so check if pastebinit is installed ("apt-cache policy pastebinit"). If not, install it then you can paste command output directly using, for example, "dpkg-query -l 'linux-image*'  | grep '^ii' | pastebinit"
[17:30] <Shane-S> okay..it isn't I setup the machine
[17:31] <kkragoth> to multiple answers: i mean something like key shortcut that behaves as ls of the *a folder while still typing a command (not tab/ not | ls ~a )
[17:31] <Shane-S> can I install it or do I need to clean up from of the /boot stuff first
[17:31] <Shane-S> apt-get clean didn't remove anything fyi, and I have the grep output in my face
[17:31] <TJ-> Shane-S: Yes, you can install it /boot/ isn't used for anything but the linux-image* packages
[17:32] <Shane-S> I have all generics, with 3.2.0-23 up to -37
[17:32] <Shane-S> okay
[17:32] <TJ-> !info hostapd | dog-food
[17:35] <Shane-S> *sigh* brb I am going to see if I can just enable C&P and restart this thing...pastbin has dependancies
[17:37] <MapsRus> How do I create a user in Ubuntu which can execute all programs as root/sudo?  I hate having to gksu every app just so I can edit some config files!
[17:37] <dandan_> TJ-: Do you know why my compiled kernel works okay and creates all the necessary modules, EXCEPT FOR WIFI?
[17:38] <willybilly0101> MapsRus, and you will log in to that user each time?
[17:39] <ezra-s> dandan_, that's not an ubuntu question, but probably you havent enabled necessary modules in the config
[17:40] <dandan_> ezra-s: As in, "make menuconfig" and look for wifi modules?
[17:40] <lotuspsychje> MapsRus: you could also sux a program with root privileges
[17:40] <MapsRus> >willybilly0101 yes...I will login to Ubuntu and not have to worry about running gksu top open apps in sudo mode
[17:40] <willybilly0101> then enable root
[17:40] <lotuspsychje> !info sux | MapsRus
[17:40] <willybilly0101> same security hole
[17:41] <dog-food> on windows phone 8 wifi access poiint can be created with few taps
[17:41] <lotuspsychje> dog-food: this is ubuntu here mate
[17:41] <ezra-s> dandan_, yes
[17:42] <ezra-s> dandan_, there is one section for the drivers and there is another for wifi in general in a separate section... maybe you are missing one of the two
[17:42] <ezra-s> dandan_, which kernel version are you compiling?
[17:43] <MapsRus> >ubotto - so with sux, I can launch apps in sudo mode without going to the terminal to do so?
[17:43] <dandan_> ezra-s: I am compiling kernel for Samsung Galaxy Note 3. I downloaded the source code, have the working toolchain, the kernel compiles fine, I enabled modules so that they compile also. But no wifi...
[17:45] <ezra-s> dandan_, I have no experience compiling for mobile phones, are you sure the kernel you have has the necessary drivers enabled?
[17:46] <Pici> dandan_: What does this have to do with Ubuntu?
[17:46] <ezra-s> dandan_, I believe the other sexion I was refering was where you can enable mac80211 support or similar, but don't know if that applies to your case
[17:46] <ezra-s> s/sexion/section/
[17:47] <dandan_> I was having trouble getting MAKE to work on ubuntu seemingly after I updated packages but it is working now. Sorry I don't want to clog this place with Android talk...
[17:47] <dandan_> ezra-s: Yes there is an option for 80211 do I have to enable that?
[17:47] <Pici> dandan_: #android or #android-dev might be better places to ask your current questins.
[17:47] <lotuspsychje> MapsRus: no it works same way, opening terminal/ sux username firefox
[17:48] <ezra-s> dandan_, surely, and there is more than one related to that one in the same section, but I don't recall by memory only, check menuconfig
[17:48] <comodo_dragon> bocaneri
[17:48] <dandan_> Okay, thankyou everybody for the support :)
[17:49] <lotuspsychje> !it | comodo_dragon
[17:50] <bocaneri> comodo_dragon, stop highlighting me.
[17:50] <MapsRus> that's lousy...it's like having Windows UAC all over again...there must be a way to run apps as sudo without launching from a command line!
[17:50] <gordonjcp> !gksu
[17:51] <gordonjcp> MapsRus: what are you trying to run as root?
[17:51] <gordonjcp> MapsRus: you should pretty much never have to use root
[17:51] <MapsRus> gedit, nautilus...etc
[17:51] <gordonjcp> MapsRus: okay, in pretty much every case you're probably doing something wrong
[17:51] <gordonjcp> MapsRus: what *exactly* are you trying to do?
[17:51] <MapsRus> If I don't, I cannot edit any config files or copy files to my web folders. etc
[17:51] <nysochat> hi there
[17:52] <gordonjcp> MapsRus: is this on your desktop?
[17:52] <gordonjcp> (presumably so, since you have nautilus)
[17:52] <comodo_dragon> pizi
[17:52] <sauraedron> MapsRus, may be log in as root
[17:53] <comodo_dragon> you ban me?
[17:53] <gordonjcp> MapsRus: set the permissions on your web directories to be writable by you
[17:53] <lotuspsychje> !ops | comodo_dragon
[17:53] <gordonjcp> MapsRus: if this is on a production system, then look at "sensible" ways of deploying
[17:53] <gordonjcp> MapsRus: like maybe fabric
[17:53] <Corey> comodo_dragon: Knock it off.
[17:53] <MapsRus> yes, I could do that ...  after I gksu nautilus :)
[17:54] <gordonjcp> MapsRus: no, do that from the command line
[17:54] <gordonjcp> it's much easier
[17:54] <gordonjcp> MapsRus: you need to do it from the command line on the server *anyway*
[17:54] <MapsRus> what could be easier than browsing to a folder and right clicking on it and setting permissions - FYI - you can tell I'm a big fan of GUI's
[17:55] <nb-ben> hi there
[17:56] <karab44> hello
[17:56] <nb-ben> I got a new Lenovo G500, trying to install from USB however neither netboot nor does liveusb work
[17:56] <Myrtti> comodo_dragon: cut it out.
[17:56] <nb-ben> netboot just fails to get past syslinux (says no boot target) and liveusb starts, but I can't see anything drawn on screen
[17:56] <comodo_dragon> i am.
[17:56] <nb-ben> I can hear the logon sound when it boots but screen is just entirely blank
[17:56] <karab44> there is an option to Lock after Screen turns off. I don't want it. How to Turn off the screen on Screen Lock?
[17:57] <nb-ben> I suppose perhaps I should have tried moving to terminal
[17:57] <willybilly0101> is it true that ubuntu people are republicans?
[17:57] <lotuspsychje> willybilly0101: thats a bit offtopic mate
[17:57] <willybilly0101> ok, will ask on offtopic
[17:58] <DJones> comodo_dragon: You know that this channel only deals with with ubuntu support, if you have issues in other channels, please discuss them with operators from those channl;es and not in this channel
[17:58] <comodo_dragon> where can i chat about not support?
[17:59] <gartral> !offtopic | comodo_dragon
[17:59] <comodo_dragon> k
[18:00] <MapsRus> Any idea how to modify the Ubuntu default startup programs via a GUI?
[18:01] <lotuspsychje> MapsRus: are you on ubuntu server?
[18:02] <joshuadempsey> Hi
[18:03] <gordonjcp> MapsRus: I have no idea how you'd "browse" to a "folder"
[18:04] <gordonjcp> MapsRus: what could be easier than just typing a two-word command to set the permissions?
[18:04] <gordonjcp> MapsRus: FWIW not even Windows servers use GUIs
[18:06] <MapsRus> I'm running a desktop version of Ubuntu...
[18:06] <gordonjcp> MapsRus: right, but you wouldn't be running that on a server
[18:06] <karab44> how to enable/change screensaver on 13.04?
[18:06] <gordonjcp> !screensaver | karab44
[18:07] <karab44> not available hahaha
[18:07] <lotuspsychje> karab44: i think i had to remove gnome default screensaver
[18:07] <gordonjcp> ah, ubottu no longer knows about screensavers
[18:07] <lotuspsychje> karab44: and install xscreensaver
[18:07] <karab44> I can not find any
[18:07] <lotuspsychje> !info xscreensaver | karab44
[18:08] <kostkon> !xscreensaver
[18:09] <lotuspsychje> karab44: for more screensaver ons xscreensaver install the extras data
[18:09] <karab44> thanks! I didn't know there's no ss on ubu by default
[18:10] <lotuspsychje> karab44: there is gnome default screensaver running as deamon, but you need to uninstall that one
[18:10] <karab44> It is not working
[18:10] <karab44> I have black screen and nothing more
[18:10] <MonkeyDust> karab44  because the iso had to be kept small, some packages have been left out, screensavers among them
[18:11] <karab44> even small screensaver? even tiny text?
[18:11] <karab44> okay
[18:11] <MonkeyDust> karab44  a screensaver comes up when you are away, so you are not *supposed* to see it
[18:11] <karab44> hehehe
[18:12] <karab44> but I see my screen is black but not even turned off. It's just black background and I see it glows in the dark
[18:14] <Rory> karab44: Sounds like the "blank" screensaver
[18:14] <karab44> yes
[18:14] <Rory> karab44: You can set the screento turn off in power settings
[18:14] <karab44> That's why I asked where to set something
[18:15] <karab44> Rory: no, it's not there
[18:16] <lotuspsychje> MonkeyDust: i like phosphor running on my screen when afk :p
[18:17] <Rory> karab44: What's not where? Are you in power options?
[18:17] <karab44> yes
[18:18] <Rory> karab44: Mine looks like this: http://rory.sh/files/power.png
[18:18] <karab44> nope
[18:18] <karab44> O! I can se myself!
[18:19] <Rory> "nope"
[18:19] <Rory> What does yours look like?
[18:19] <Rory> Oh wait
[18:19] <Rory> I made a huge mistake, sorry. The setting is in Screensaver
[18:20] <karab44> So terrible xscreensavers!
[18:21] <Rory> Right, I am going to stop trying to help because I assumed there was a screensaver program but it looks like it was removed from Ubuntu at some point
[18:21] <karab44> They look like winamp plugins from early 90's :D
[18:21] <Rory> And now I have no idea how to do it
[18:21] <Rory> karab44: They're amazing :3
[18:21] <sauraedron> karab44, right click change desktop backgrnd->all settings->brightness lock
[18:22] <karab44> and half of them shows as not installed, even after installing extras
[18:22] <ddosantos> hello
[18:22] <cariveri> How to change ip in use for the wlan0 interface?
[18:22] <karab44> gosh they're awful
[18:23] <karab44> bouncing cow
[18:23] <karab44> ...
[18:23] <Rory> cariveri: Use Network Manager -> Edit Connections
[18:23] <ddosantos> is there any specific channel about samba?
[18:23] <cariveri> Rory: I mean terminal way.
[18:23] <Rory> ddosantos: #samba on Freenode
[18:23] <ddosantos> oh thanks
[18:23] <Yans> ddosantos #RioDeJaneiro
[18:23] <Eduard_Munteanu> What's a good way to trigger an event when an USB stick is inserted? 'usbmount' seems to take care of mounting, but what about running a script?
[18:24] <ddosantos> XD
[18:24] <Rory> Eduard_Munteanu: Try here? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsbDriveDoSomethingHowto
[18:24] <Eduard_Munteanu> Rory: thanks
[18:24] <kallops> how should I partition my server computer with 1 harddrive of 250 GB, intended for many virtual servers
[18:24] <jboii> hi
[18:25] <jboii> can someone help me with this ?
[18:25] <ikonia> kallops: however you feel best
[18:25] <Eduard_Munteanu> kallops: boot partition + another big one, most likely. The big stuff can be LVM-ized.
[18:25] <Rory> kallops: What virtualisation software will you be using?
[18:25] <delinquentme> are there any instances where an ubuntu code base should be looking for a .dll ... outside of a WINE application?
[18:25] <Rory> kallops: Generally just one big / partition is easiest and therefore best
[18:25] <Eduard_Munteanu> kallops: you can use LVs for VM storage.
[18:25] <Rory> delinquentme: Perhaps Mono?
[18:25] <kallops> ok thanks
[18:25] <Rory> jboii: with what?
[18:25] <jboii> the computer hangs up and dim brightness is 50%
[18:25] <jboii> how can i stop this
[18:26] <Eduard_Munteanu> kallops: look at the thin provisioning LVM stuff, btw
[18:26] <kallops> im learning, im dont know so much, but I guess in the future I will have plenty of virtual servers
[18:26] <delinquentme> Pici, if you're around :D  Theres a *.dll question
[18:26] <karab44> I did something cool and oldschool with Extrusion screensaver! Thanks to you guys! You're the best! :)
[18:26] <comodo_dragon> jboii disable screensaver?
[18:26] <kallops> having partition for / and /boot and /home and /swap?
[18:27] <Rory> jboii: Are you saying that your brightness will not go above 50% ?
[18:27] <Rory> kallops: Just / and swap
[18:27] <jboii> isnt that , that is not function , its just dim that happens when its stuck
[18:27] <Eduard_Munteanu> kallops: FWIW you might not need a swap partition at all, if this is a hypervisor
[18:28] <ikonia> not having a swap partition would be unwise
[18:28] <kostkon> jboii, that happens to frozen programs
[18:28] <kallops> I have 2gb ram, will upgrade in future to 16
[18:28] <k1l> ikonia: depends on the ram and on the usecase.
[18:28] <kallops> hypervisor i guess
[18:29] <Eduard_Munteanu> ikonia: how so? Per-VM swap should be more flexible.
[18:29] <ikonia> k1l: I disagree
[18:29] <Eduard_Munteanu> And you can just swap on LV or an ext4 file.
[18:29] <ikonia> Eduard_Munteanu: per vm swap is based on disk and ram of the guest, which is actually based on disk and ram of the hypervisor, both for ram
[18:29] <ikonia> Eduard_Munteanu: so not having swap on the hypervisor to swap out idle work can have a negative impact on the guests
[18:29] <Bronze> hi, I've been trying out the new Ubuntu desktop, and I'm finding it problematic. I realize this is personal and subjective. I've been using UNIX since 1982 and I'm kind of technically oriented. I find that the menus are just too minimal to give me ready access to the things I'm looking for
[18:30] <Bronze> are there any other ways to configure and Ubuntu system to be more complex?
[18:30] <Rory> !kde | Bronze
[18:30] <Bronze> Rory: thank you Sir.
[18:30] <gordonjcp> Bronze: what do you mean "more complex"?
[18:30] <kostkon> Bronze, what menus? there arent any menus in ubuntu
[18:30] <gordonjcp> Bronze: or better still, which desktop environment are you most used to?
[18:30] <Bronze> kostkon: well I found some. :-)
[18:30] <Eduard_Munteanu> ikonia: mm, I'm not sure swapping out VM memory is a good idea. You can just use the KVM balloon driver to make memory scale according to needs.
[18:31] <jboii> apps that are stuck  yea
[18:31] <k1l> ikonia: in this setup with vms i wold recommend a swap. but in my setup here on my laptop (where i dont use suspend and have 8gb ram) i dont need swap.
[18:31] <jboii> its like a pause
[18:31] <ikonia> k1l: I still disagree, having even a small swap area can be useful even if on paper you can run everything in ram
[18:31] <Bronze> gordonjcp: well I find most of the gnome-based GUI systems to be way too constraining and simplistic. I am used to the Red Hat-based systems and I have used Debian systems and knoppix and Ubuntu before. But this new generation of interface for Ubuntu has been so simplified that I can't find menus for administering the system.
[18:31] <ikonia> Eduard_Munteanu: I disagree, but of course people have different opinions
[18:32] <gordonjcp> Bronze: uhm
[18:32] <gordonjcp> Bronze: so what DE were you sung in Redhat?
[18:32] <Eduard_Munteanu> ikonia: fair, I guess swapping on an ext4 file is a good compromise, though. It's easier to scale than a partition.
[18:32] <Eduard_Munteanu> Or at least a LV.
[18:32] <Bronze> gordonjcp: I've used KDE, icewm, lxde and some others
[18:32] <gordonjcp> Bronze: so install lxde then
[18:33] <Bronze> I would have if I could have figured out how to. I couldn't find a menu for controlling that. :-)
[18:33] <gordonjcp> Bronze: what do you need to configure?
[18:33] <Bronze> I couldn't even find a way to get a terminal up.
[18:33] <kostkon> Bronze, there is the system settings option up right by pressing the gear icon or searching in the dash
[18:33] <Eduard_Munteanu> Partitions = headaches, generally.
[18:33] <gordonjcp> Bronze: I don't use menus for configuring anything, fwiw
[18:33] <gordonjcp> Bronze: oh, that's a lie, the network manager one is great for setting up wifi and VPNs, quite a time-saver
[18:33] <Bronze> gordonjcp: well personally I prefer to use the command line myself. But I don't always have enough knowledge for each distro
[18:33] <Rory> Bronze: Ctrl + Alt + T for getting a terminal
[18:34] <Bronze> I actually had to destroy the network manager and replace it with a script.
[18:34] <gordonjcp> Bronze: all the distros are all the same
[18:34] <Bronze> OK you just lost all credibility.
[18:34] <gordonjcp> Bronze: just as a matter of interest, what Unix were you using in 1982?
[18:34] <gordonjcp> Bronze: all *Unixes* are pretty much the same
[18:34] <Rory> Bronze: This is all getting a little #ubuntu-offtopic
[18:34] <gordonjcp> never mind Linux distros
[18:34] <Bronze> BSD, on sun workstation, and another Motorola-based system from Charles River data systems
[18:34] <gordonjcp> Bronze: so if you've used for example Knoppix you ought to cope with Lubuntu
[18:35] <Bronze> OK thank you. I'll  move to another channel since we are off-topic
[18:35] <gordonjcp> Bronze: #ubuntu-offtopic would be good
[18:36] <Eduard_Munteanu> Hm, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsbDriveDoSomethingHowto doesn't quite cut it. The manual seems to warn against launching daemons or such stuff with RUN udev actions. Is there a better way, perhaps related to usbmount?
[18:36] <gordonjcp> Bronze: try "sudo apt-get install lubuntu-desktop" which will, uh, install lubuntu desktop
[18:36] <gordonjcp> Bronze: does what it says on the tin
[18:36] <Bronze> gordonjcp: that channel doesn't have enough menus :-)
[18:36] <gordonjcp> Bronze: that's pretty much going to be like Knoppix for you ;-)
[18:36] <Bronze> OK. thank you.  I'm over in #lubuntu now
[18:36] <Caelum> I'm setting up a machine for an older person, what extra things do you guys suggest I install? I have chrome, gedit, amarok and auto-updates on there already.
[18:36] <Eduard_Munteanu> I figure usbmount would be the best thing to ask to notify me.
[18:36] <ikonia> Caelum: what ever they need,
[18:36] <ioCharSet> hi! how can i get to know what iocharset has been used to mount a network folder??
[18:37] <pandaroot_> what does this command do sudo chown -R root:username /home/ubuntu ?
[18:37] <ikonia> Caelum: we can't know other peoples requirements if you don't know them
[18:37] <Eduard_Munteanu> Oh!
[18:37] <ikonia> pandaroot_: changes the ubuntu users home directory to be owned by root
[18:37] <Caelum> ikonia: he just mostly uses the web browser, pdfs and such
[18:37] <Eduard_Munteanu> http://packages.ubuntu.com/precise/all/usbmount/filelist  -- /etc/usbmount/{u,}mount.d/  !
[18:37] <ikonia> Caelum: so install things to allow that
[18:37]  * Caelum sighs
[18:37] <jboii> none kno how i can stop the apps from stuck ?
[18:39] <jboii> display is dim when its stuck
[18:39] <kostkon> Caelum, you could even install adobe reader if you think it would be more familiar to them than evince
[18:39] <Eduard_Munteanu> Ew.
[18:39] <pandaroot_> ikonia, ok
[18:39] <Eduard_Munteanu> evince is pretty good actually
[18:40] <Eduard_Munteanu> Caelum: perhaps an office suite?
[18:40] <comodo_dragon> except that it cant get custom zoom. epdf view is better
[18:40] <Eduard_Munteanu> LibreOffice, say.
[18:40] <Rory> jboii: What Ubuntu version are you using?
[18:40] <jboii> Ubuntu 13.04
[18:40] <kostkon> Caelum, yeah there is even an office suite that tries to look like ms office if you are interested
[18:42] <comodo_dragon> ms office is good
[18:42] <kostkon> Caelum, you could replace libreoffice with this http://wps-community.org/
[18:42] <comodo_dragon> shame you cant stop cursor from blinkin in wine/
[18:42] <comodo_dragon> that stuff can give you seizures
[18:42] <kostkon> comodo_dragon, ?? which app/game?
[18:43] <comodo_dragon> msword ran in wine
[18:46] <merzak7> =)
[18:49] <pandaroot_> which is efficient virtualization technology to use to deploy multiple system  ?
[18:49] <kallops> how many gbs for swap
[18:49] <Galvatron> Hi
[18:49] <pandaroot_> i doubt virtualbox can be used for this purpose ?
[18:49] <pandaroot_> KVM would be the best choice ?
[18:50] <joshu_> I have an employee who has complained about weird artefacts on her laptop over the past week and she sent me a photo http://cl.ly/image/3m321b3A2J1g I know it's difficult to say but I'm suspecting a hardware fault perhaps the graphics card. I'm picking up the laptop and running diagnostics during the weekend, but I thought I'd ask for opinions or how to check if it might be an Ubuntu issue.
[18:51] <Galvatron> My 12.04.3 (Nvidia drivers) completely ignores xorg.conf and takes display settings directly from monitors.xml and \I have no idea how to change it.
[18:51] <ikonia> joshu_: check her video card and the xorg modules being used,
[18:52] <ikonia> Galvatron: what settings are you trying to change in xorg.conf that's it's ignoring ?
[18:53] <joshu_> ikonia for the video card when you say "check" you mean run HP diagnostics? for the xorg modules how and why would I do this?
[18:53] <ikonia> joshu_: no, I mean check what card is in there, then compare it against the xorg modules you're using and make sure it's the best option
[18:53] <Galvatron> ikonia: The resolution and refresh rate
[18:54] <ikonia> Galvatron: what makes you think it's ignoring it ?
[18:54] <joshu_> ikonia so even if the laptop has been working fine for 2 months and the ubuntu OS has not been modified, the artefacts could still be a result of the xorg modules?
[18:54] <ikonia> joshu_: sure, updates to happen, and usage can change,
[18:54] <ikonia> joshu_: it's also possible there is a hardware problem too, just work the problem through
[18:55] <Galvatron> ikonia: They get back to the monitors.xml values each time I restart X
[18:55] <ikonia> Galvatron: that doesn't mean it's ignoring it, or using monitors.xml
[18:55] <ikonia> Galvatron: how are you setting the values ?
[18:55] <joshu_> ikonia how do you compare the video card against the xorg modules?
[18:55] <Galvatron> ikonia: Through the Nvidia control panel
[18:55] <ikonia> joshu_: you look at what xorg modules are in use and check their supportability for the card you are using
[18:56] <Galvatron> I set them, save to xorg.conf reset X and I'm back on square one
[18:56] <ikonia> Galvatron: ok, so when you save the settings, are you %100 sure that xorg.conf is being updated (eg: it needs root privileges) check the datestamp on the file
[18:56] <joshu_> ikonia right but what I don't understand is how you "look at what xorg modules are in use"?
[18:56] <ikonia> joshu_: check the log file
[18:56] <joshu_> ok
[18:57] <Galvatron> ikonia: I'm absolutely sure
[18:57] <ikonia> Galvatron: how are you sure (I'm just understanding the problem)
[18:57] <joshu_> ikonia thanks
[18:57] <pandaroot_> which is efficient virtualization technology to use to deploy multiple system running different services  ?
[18:57] <pandaroot_> kvm or virtualbox ?
[18:57] <ikonia> pandaroot_: that's not a valid question
[18:58] <ikonia> pandaroot_: use which ever one you are comfortable using and which one meets your needs
[18:58] <pandaroot_> ikonia, sorry
[18:59] <Galvatron> ikonia: For example, in monitors.xml I have 1152x864_75 and in xorg.conf I have 1024x768_85 and the NV panel displays the former value.
[18:59] <ikonia> Galvatron: that doesn't mean you are certain it's saving to xorg.conf
[18:59] <pandaroot_> ikonia, in enterprise which one is used ? Currently i am setting up a local mirror and running webserver, so i want to virtualize those instances, on top  of my ubuntu server.
[18:59] <Galvatron> I'm certain
[18:59] <TJ-> pandaroot_: You might want to consider Xen if you're considering running multiple OS instances on a single host
[19:00] <pandaroot_> TJ-, ok
[19:00] <ikonia> pandaroot_: it's totlly up to you
[19:00] <ikonia> Galvatron: how are you certain
[19:00] <Galvatron> I can completely remove xorg.conf and the settings remain
[19:00] <BlazeFaia> Hey. I was wondering if it was possible to have Ubuntu not go into sleep mode upon shutting the laptop's lid from the login screen. If I log in and close the lid it works but from initially turning on the machine and closing the lid that doesn't work.
[19:00] <ikonia> Galvatron: that doesn't mean it's writing to the file - that means you've removed the file
[19:00] <Galvatron> ikonia: Gimme a sec
[19:01] <ikonia> Galvatron: just answer the question
[19:01] <ikonia> Galvatron: Its getting pretty tedious having to ask 3 times and you answering a different question
[19:01] <TJ-> pandaroot_: xen is a bare-metal hypervisor, rather than a full OS as with KVM and VirtualBox. LXC and OpenVZ are container-based and quite lightweight
[19:04] <jboii> can someone help me with apps stuck n dim display
[19:04] <Galvatron> ikonia:  I'm usunf 1152x864 @ 75Hz. Using the NV panel I can change it to whatever value I want and save it to xorg.conf. After I restart X, the set value (i.e. 1024x768 @ 85Hz) remains in xorg.conf, but the screen is back to 1152x864 @ 75Hz and that's what the NV panel shows.
[19:04] <sammy> so i've got this /etc/default/grub http://paste.ubuntu.com/6210528/ which I thought would hide the grub menu unless someone pressed a button during the 1second timer, but it shows instead. what am I missing?
[19:05] <ikonia> Galvatron: that doesn't validate anything
[19:05] <trism> Galvatron: something must have changed on 12.04 recently, because the exact same thing happened to me yesterday, nvidia started reading xorg.conf then ignoring it and setting the default dual-monitor value
[19:05] <ikonia> Galvatron: check the date stamp on the file
[19:05] <trism> Galvatron: I gave up and ended up deleting xorg.conf and using xrandr to switch things, would be interested if you find a bug report or anything (I didn't in a quick search)
[19:06] <ikonia> a simple test would be to enable/disable the nvidia logo, in xorg.conf and see if it displays it / disables it
[19:06] <ikonia> nvlogo is the option I believe
[19:06] <trism> the problem I had was nothing changed in xorg/nvidia driver since last month but this just happened this weekend, kind of strange
[19:07] <pandaroot_> TJ-, so first i will install xen on my machine and on top of it i will install the os ?
[19:07] <ikonia> pandaroot_: I suggest you do a LOT more research before going any futher
[19:08] <BlazeFaia> Anyone know of a solution to my query?
[19:08] <Galvatron> ikonia: I just changed the resolution, saved it to xorg.conf and the has changed: Modified: Tue 08 Oct 2013 09:06:42 PM CEST
[19:08] <Galvatron> So it definitely modifies the file
[19:08] <ikonia> Galvatron: great, so my next suggestion was to enable/disable the nvidia logo to see if it's being used for configuration
[19:09] <comodo_dragon> i want to install Iceweasel instead of FireFox on ubuntu 13.10
[19:09] <TJ-> pandaroot_: Ubuntu has xen-enabled kernels too ... see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Xen
[19:09] <comodo_dragon> !iceweasel
[19:09] <jack> all i did was "sudo apt-get install wine"...
[19:09] <Galvatron> ikonia: I can delete xorg.conf and nothing changes
[19:09] <comodo_dragon> huh this is outdated. icecat hasnt been updated since sept 2012..
[19:09] <jack> machine is unusable now for a while
[19:09] <Jarchy> ! Vlc
[19:10] <jack> grmbl
[19:10] <k1l> !saucy | comodo_dragon
[19:10] <ikonia> Galvatron: please stop repeating that - it proves nothing
[19:10] <pandaroot_> ikonia, ok sir
[19:10] <ikonia> Galvatron: read the test I'm suggesting.
[19:10] <pandaroot_> TJ-, i was just reading that link
[19:10] <Jarchy> Yah wopwop
[19:11] <Galvatron> ikonia: Ok
[19:11] <comodo_dragon> how do i install iceweasel? i cant get it working
[19:11] <OerHeks> comodo_dragon, ask in #ubuntu+1 as 13.10 is not out yet.
[19:13] <repudiate> How do I change the text in my terminal?
[19:14] <nb-ben> effin hell
[19:14] <nb-ben> nothing works with this lenovo G500
[19:14] <ikonia> nb-ben: tone it down, there is no need for it
[19:15] <repudiate> How do I change the text font in my terminal?
[19:15] <zykotick9> repudiate: do you mean console, or a Xorg terminal?  if xorg, which one?
[19:16] <repudiate> console i think?
[19:16] <zykotick9> repudiate: the f1-f6 ones?
[19:16] <repudiate> God, I hate the learning curve for Linux, even if it's only because I'll be a noob for so long.
[19:16] <vadi> Is it possible to upgrade to Files 3.8 on Ubuntu 13.04?
[19:17] <nb-ben> ikonia the only person with that ability is you
[19:17] <repudiate> zykotick9: The what?
[19:17] <Galvatron> ikonia: As expected, the logo doesn't react either
[19:17] <nb-ben> you're the interpreter of the text :p
[19:17] <ikonia> Galvatron: ok, so that's a good test
[19:17] <Rory> What option can I add to my ssh config to avoid having to use the -t flag to connect to a particular host?
[19:17] <ikonia> nb-ben: no - you said it, I'm not laughing, if you can't communite without suggesting swear words, please don't
[19:17] <blurkis> reö
[19:17] <Rory> Or how can I make it so I can run screen like "ssh hostname screen -dr" without having to do "ssh -t hostname screen -dr" - either method for the same result
[19:18] <blurkis> repudiate, for most people there should not be that much of a learningcurve,  most things just "work"..
[19:18] <Rory> repudiate: Every time you Google how to do something, and it works, you learned something
[19:18] <zykotick9> repudiate: is this in Xorg (the gui) or linux-console the all text windows which are typically, F1-F6 (F7 being Xorg)
[19:18] <repudiate> Rory: I've been realizing that.
[19:18] <replicasex> Hey guys, thanks for running this IRC!  I have a very small question about the Adwaita theme and using it in Ubuntu.  It seems like there are weird errors sometimes where they'll be a black background for the tabs in nautilus and in open dialogues.  Any ideas what's causing this?
[19:19] <trism> Galvatron: I think I might have figured it out, for me it seems it was bug 1236752
[19:19] <ikonia> Galvatron: out of interest, what was the parameter you set/how did you set it
[19:19] <repudiate> zykotick9: It's the linux console, I'm pretty sure.
[19:19] <trism> Galvatron: when I downgraded gnome-settings-daemon, xorg.conf was being used again...it must be gnome-settings-daemon overriding with xrandr
[19:19] <zykotick9> repudiate: then try "sudo dpkg-reconfigure console-setup" (i'm not sure how you can be "pretty sure")
[19:20] <repudiate> let's assume i'm right
[19:20] <repudiate> how would i change it
[19:20] <Marezz> Hi everyone
[19:20] <Rory> Hello Marezz
[19:20] <Marezz> How can I fix MBR and grub?
[19:21] <Marezz> I messed it up and I cant boot into system
[19:21] <Rory> !grub | Marezz
[19:21] <repudiate> zykotick9: it's asking me for my pass to install it
[19:21] <zykotick9> !fixgrub | Marezz
[19:21] <Marezz> reinstall wont help
[19:21] <Rory> Marezz: Use the first link
[19:21] <Galvatron> ikonia: Option "NoLogo" "True" in the "Device" section
[19:21] <ikonia> Galvatron: so that setting should not display a logo, did it display a logo ?
[19:21] <psycose> I have a DELL 15R, with UEFI and secure boot enabled, all was fine. I was able to boot using the bios (InsydeH20) UEFI menu. Today the boot lines concerning the disk disappeared, and I can not boot ubuntu any more ! any tips ?
[19:21] <zykotick9> repudiate: "install it"?  really, it should ask your password to "run" it.
[19:22] <replicasex> So -- graphical errors using Adwaita theme in Ubuntu 13.04.  Looks like this http://i.imgur.com/ZXBqHeS.png  the weird black background.  Any idea?
[19:22] <Galvatron> trism: Thank you very much. I will definitely try it, though in my case it started after playing a Wine game through the Windows version of steam.
[19:22] <Galvatron> My suspicion it that Wine (1.7.1. stable from the PPA) might have messed someing up.
[19:22] <repudiate>  zykotick9 oh
[19:22] <repudiate> then that's it
[19:22] <Wug> psycose: try jiggling the cable
[19:23] <repudiate> anyway
[19:23] <repudiate> what text is it using
[19:23] <repudiate> that's what i want to know
[19:23] <Galvatron> Of course, it might be only a coincidence.
[19:23] <repudiate> It's not there under Profile Preferences.
[19:23] <Wug> psycose: if the computer continues to fail to detect the drive, after doing things like moving it to a different SATA port, etc, the drive may be dead and need to be replaced
[19:23] <ikonia> Galvatron: so that setting should not display a logo, did it display a logo ?
[19:24] <Galvatron> Yes
[19:24] <repudiate> Apparently, the font is Ubuntu Mono
[19:24] <zykotick9> repudiate: if you are seeing a Profile Preferences this is NOT console, but an Xorg terminal...  the configuration is different!
[19:24] <repudiate> zykotick9: oh
[19:24] <ikonia> Galvatron: ok, so that's a good test, I'd get a bug logged for the detailing it
[19:24] <lamppis> How can I link some command to shorter command?
[19:25] <qbalazs> Does 'buntu have an equivalent to debian.org/ports? Trying to sort out a few things in the install guide, but either there isn't one, or I'm overlooking it.
[19:25] <repudiate> zykotick9: Is there any reason that I should use the Linux Console instead?
[19:25] <zykotick9> repudiate: NO
[19:25] <psycose> Wug, it's a laptop, I have been able to boot a ubuntu live using usb stick, I can see the data and the partitions on the disk. the laptop is fairly new.
[19:26] <Wug> psycose: try reinstalling grub
[19:26] <Wug> I can't remember how off the top of my head, I just google it when I need to do it, theres a million guides
[19:27] <Marezz> Rory, Its not working
[19:28] <Rory> Marezz: What part?
[19:28] <Rory> Marezz: Are you in a live environment right now?
[19:29] <replicasex> Anybody have an idea what would cause this weird nautilus/open dialogue thing in Adwaita?  http://i.imgur.com/ZXBqHeS.png
[19:29] <replicasex> Strange black background when I open more than one tab in nautilus.
[19:30] <skinux> How do we get binary apps downloaded as tarballs to show in search screen?
[19:31] <Jarchy> How do you remove cloud from your panel ?
[19:34] <Galvatron> trism: Unfortunately, it's not my case..
[19:34] <Jarchy> I am the invisible man
[19:34] <Galvatron> The demon has nothing to do with this
[19:34] <trism> Galvatron: ahh that is too bad, sorry about that, just seemed strange to both be having the same issue
[19:35] <zidoh> i've installed gnome-shell in ubuntu, but if i click on any settings from the top menu ("Date & Time settings", "Bluetooth settings", "Network settings") nothing appears.. anybody got any idea what can cause this?
[19:36] <Jarchy> Ur computer has an std
[19:36] <ikonia> Galvatron: test - in xorg.conf change the driver from "nvidia" to "vesa" and reboot - you will still get a desktop but the quality will be poor, see if this happens (you can always change it back)
[19:36] <rickyb98> holy cow 1791 users o.O
[19:37] <Galvatron> ikonia: OK
[19:40] <daninoz_z> hi, i installed today ubuntu 13.04 on my notebook, but the wifi speed is really slow. I think the wireless card chipset is a broadcom bcm43142
[19:40] <mnana3a> dan, check for any additional drivers
[19:42] <daninoz_z> mnana3a: I'm already using the additional driver.
[19:42] <skinux> This is probably nothing, but a few times when I've enabled WiFi on my Android phone, it seems something has gone screwy with my laptop. Anyone have info that makes it more than coincidence?
[19:42] <Galvatron> ikonia: No reaction. The NV driver loaded just fine.
[19:42] <marie__> Hello !
[19:43] <Rory> skinux: could be wireless interference, try changing your channel
[19:43] <marie__> I've a webcam who's not reconnized in Ubuntu
[19:43] <ikonia> Galvatron: so you changed the driver line in xorg.conf to be "vesa" not "nvidia" correct (note nvidia, not nv)
[19:43] <skinux> Nah, I mean screwy things like weird file permissions problems.
[19:44] <mnana3a> daninoz_z: what speed are you getting and what speed are you supposed to get?
[19:44] <Galvatron> ikonia: Yes
[19:45] <ikonia> Galvatron: so how are you verifying what xorg module / driver it's using ?
[19:47] <Galvatron> ikonia: Only "nvidia" and nouveau are capable of running Unity 3D, but in my case nouveau just doesn't work at all, for whatever reasons.
[19:47] <ikonia> Galvatron: I apprecaite where you are coming from - look in the xorg log to see what happens during startup and see if/why it selects the nvidia module when you've told it not to
[19:48] <daninoz_z> mnana3a: at least 5Mb, I'm getting 1.2Mb
[19:50] <mnana3a> daninoz_z: there is some solutions here http://itsfoss.com/speed-up-slow-wifi-connection-ubuntu/ you can try any of them, hope it will work out :)
[19:50] <Galvatron> ikonia: That's the log: http://pastebin.com/fCYg2M2f
[19:51] <phil_> hiho, I want to add a group to my current user, tried useradd -G groupname username, but it gives error user xy already exists
[19:51] <ikonia> Galvatron: ok, so it does parse the xorg.conf, what's in /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d ?
[19:51] <phil_> what am I doing wrong?
[19:52] <kostkon> Galvatron, nowdays you can run unity3d even without 3d acceleration using llvmpipe
[19:52] <ikonia> phil_: that's adding a user,
[19:52] <ikonia> phil_: usermod is what you want
[19:52] <flam_> phil_, usermod
[19:53] <phil_> ty ikonia flam_
[19:53] <vingin87> ciao
[19:53] <vingin87> !list
[19:53] <Galvatron> ikonia: http://pastebin.com/WAB5RZrC
[19:54] <ikonia> Galvatron: ok, so nothing that should conflict then
[19:56] <Galvatron> ikonia: It all started after playing a Wine game from Steam fullscreen.
[19:56] <ikonia> Galvatron: I can't see that having an impact unless it's changed the xorg packages or the nvidia packages when you installed the wine PPA
[19:57] <Galvatron> I've already wiped and reinstalled the whole X stack
[19:57] <ikonia> I can't see that having an impact
[19:57] <ikonia> (as I don't think x is broken)
[19:58] <Caelum> kostkon: thank you
[19:58] <Galvatron> Here's the kern.log from the boot when it failed to load VESA: http://pastebin.com/SfrndHvQ
[19:59] <ikonia> Galvatron: the only think of interest there is the loading of the nvidia module, which is not a bad thing
[19:59] <kostkon> Caelum, ;)
[20:01] <Galvatron> ikonia: But why it  doesn't load vesa?
[20:01] <Galvatron> ikonia:: It might have to do with Unity/GNOME itself?
[20:02] <ikonia> Galvatron: it's not loading vesa as it's loading nvidia because it's detecting it - why it's not overwriding it I don't know, can you please pastebin your xorg.conf ?
[20:04] <wizard_A> i already have a .ssh folder. But i want to start afresh. How do i deal this situation?
[20:04] <Galvatron> ikonia: http://pastebin.com/tWFJhu2U
[20:05] <ikonia> Galvatron: err it says  Driver         "nvidia"
[20:05] <ikonia> Galvatron: I asked you to change that to Vesa
[20:06] <Galvatron> I've changed it back to the original value.;)
[20:06] <ikonia> why /
[20:06] <Galvatron> All right, I will retry it
[20:07] <Rory> wizard_A: mv .ssh .ssh_old
[20:07] <ikonia> Galvatron: also where is the "nologo" option I asked you to use
[20:07] <wizard_A> and then, rm -f .ssh?
[20:08] <Rory> wizard_A: no, mv is "move"
[20:08] <Rory> wizard_A: You can rm if it instead of moving it, but moving it is in case you want it back
[20:08] <wizard_A> i meant after that. i already did that.
[20:08] <Rory> wizard_A: Well once you move .ssh to .ssh_old, .ssh doesn't exist any more so there's nothing to rm
[20:10] <wizard_A> oops my bad. :)
[20:10] <eer> Can one send emails to real mail accounts with the mail -s command or only to system accounts on the same box?
[20:11] <ibekks> eer: depends on wether you configured an MTA
[20:12] <Galvatron> Ikonia: Again, VESA hasn't loaded
[20:12] <ikonia> Galvatron: that is odd / frustrating
[20:12] <eer> ibekks, you mean I have to install postix or exim for example on my machine in order to be ablt to do that?
[20:12] <ikonia> Galvatron: maybe worth getting a bug logged, detailing this clearly
[20:12] <Galvatron> The OS doesn't care about xorg.care the least bit
[20:12] <ibekks> eer: you have to configure those after installing, too
[20:13] <nukleuz> Hi. Could anybody help me out a litle bit? I'm having a issue where my server is missing a PTR record in its dns record. This server is running several domains, all routed to the same nameserver; ns1.xx and ns2.xx - should I route the PTR record to those nameservers ....?
[20:13] <nukleuz> Using bind by the way.
[20:13] <Galvatron> ikonia: The only "reaction" to the changes is some flickering of the Unity launcher
[20:14] <ikonia> I wonder if that's the detection overriding it
[20:14] <Rory> eer: You can use your Gmail account to send email using "mail" there's a guide here http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/linux-use-gmail-as-a-smarthost.html
[20:15] <Rory> eer: It's probably easier than installing and configuring a MTA yourself, considering you needed to even ask
[20:15] <faio> !ciao
[20:15] <faio> !list
[20:16] <Galvatron> ikonia: X doesn't have some other plaec where it store's it configuration, some "super xorg.conf", or so?
[20:16] <Galvatron> A master config?
[20:17] <nukleuz> Galvatron; Are you asking me?
[20:17] <Galvatron> No
[20:18] <rickyb98> guys i always forget: how do you remove a non-empty folder via shell?
[20:18] <nukleuz> rm -rf
[20:19] <eer> Rory,  I prefer to learn how to configure one to using NSA mail accounts
[20:19] <ikonia> Galvatron: nope
[20:20] <rickyb98> thanks :)
[20:20] <ikonia> eer: please don't make things up about the NSA - it's tedious,
[20:20] <giorgos> Hi, I am trying to use GitEye and I get a message
[20:20] <giorgos> Gtk-Message: Failed to load module "canberra-gtk-module"
[20:20] <giorgos> /usr/bin/java: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libpangocairo-1.0.so.0: undefined symbol: cairo_ft_font_options_substitute
[20:20] <giorgos> Gtk-Message: Failed to load module "canberra-gtk-module"
[20:20] <giorgos> /home/giorgos/temp/GitEye/GitEye: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libpangocairo-1.0.so.0: undefined symbol: cairo_ft_font_options_substitute
[20:21] <giorgos> can you help me figure it out
[20:22] <eer> ikonia, you need the link to the patriot acts?
[20:23] <tozen> giorgos: sudo apt-get install libcanberra-gtk3-module works like a charm
[20:23] <Galvatron> ikonia: Thank you very much. Now I at least know that the issue is much more serious than I thought.
[20:23] <giorgos> I tried it
[20:23] <giorgos> it did not
[20:24] <ikonia> eer: no, I don't need a link, thank you
[20:24] <beeteecee> hey guys! my ubuntu 13.04 was lagging a bit and found this solution: http://askubuntu.com/questions/290913/ubuntu-running-slow-on-my-good-machine However, after I did this all my menus and launcher disappeared. I've tried many various ways to fix this (googled it) and nothing seems to work. I still get just my wallpaper when I log in. Any suggestions?