[06:16] <soee> good morning
[07:59] <Riddell> shadeslayer_: apachelogger ping
[08:10] <yofel> Riddell: mubmle is on kyofel.dyndns.org
[08:10] <yofel> I could connect at least
[08:56] <yofel> Riddell: anonscm.debian.org/cgit/collab-maint/arriero.git
[09:07] <yofel> Riddell: maybe relevant for the patches list discussion: http://people.ubuntu.com/~rohangarg/ubuntu-patch-status.html (incomplete)
[09:36] <shadeslayer_> Quintasan: UTC+1
[09:59] <Riddell> d_ed: ping?
[10:00] <BluesKaj> Howdy folks
[10:28] <shadeslayer_> Quintasan: ping
[10:33] <shadeslayer_> d_ed: piiing
[10:35] <Quintasan> I iz here
[10:36] <Quintasan> shadeslayer_: Is here,
[10:39] <shadeslayer_> Quintasan: yi
[10:39] <shadeslayer_> yo
[10:39] <shadeslayer_> Quintasan: you want to do a hangout
[10:39] <shadeslayer_> or something
[10:39] <Quintasan> Dunno lol, I thought we were going to use mumble or something.
[10:44] <Quintasan> shadeslayer_: Can't hear you guys at all
[10:44] <Quintasan> ;_;
[10:44] <Riddell> Quintasan: https://notes.kde.org/p/kubuntu-akademy
[10:44] <Quintasan> Got it.
[10:45] <Riddell> can you hear us?
[10:45] <shadeslayer_> Quintasan: can you hear us?
[10:45] <Quintasan> shadeslayer_: If someone is near the microphone then yes
[10:45] <shadeslayer_> Quintasan: oops, one moment
[10:46] <Quintasan> Mmkay.
[10:46] <shadeslayer_> I accidentally quit the wrong window
[10:46] <shadeslayer_> Quintasan: read the notes
[10:48] <shadeslayer_> Quintasan: call me?
[10:50] <shadeslayer_> argh, stupid internet
[10:50] <shadeslayer_> Quintasan: just type here I guess
[10:50] <Quintasan> kek
[10:50] <Quintasan> okay
[10:52] <Quintasan> What did you break this time around?
[10:53] <shadeslayer_> I couldn't understand any of that :
[10:53] <shadeslayer_> :P
[10:53] <shadeslayer_> ;_;
[10:53] <Quintasan> shadeslayer_: I can hear only you since you are close
[10:53] <Quintasan> The rest is just background noise.
[10:55] <Quintasan> shadeslayer_: You have to tell me what are people saying lol
[10:56] <Quintasan> shadeslayer_: Codewise? Dunno, I tried getting it running on Archos G9 multiple times and ran into kernel problems
[10:56] <Quintasan> I managed to get it running at some point but it was far from being usable
[10:56] <shadeslayer_> ^^
[10:57] <shadeslayer_> screw hangouts
[10:57] <Quintasan> shadeslayer_: So what I'd like to know is whether we are going to continue or not, IMO it makes virtually no sense at this point.
[10:58] <shadeslayer_> Quintasan: we're discussing patches list now
[10:58] <Quintasan> shadeslayer_: I can barely hear anything.
[10:58] <shadeslayer_> Quintasan: we're not continuing PA
[10:58] <Quintasan> shadeslayer_: Ok, please ask Council what I should do with the device
[10:58] <Quintasan> Since I accidentaly broke then screen.
[10:58] <shadeslayer_> Quintasan: http://people.ubuntu.com/~rohangarg/ubuntu-patch-status.html
[10:59] <shadeslayer_> Quintasan: someone might want a device
[11:00] <Quintasan> shadeslayer_: So I am to replace that, right?
[11:03] <yofel> Riddell: http://dex.alioth.debian.org/census/Ubuntu/patches/
[11:04] <yofel> was the old thing pino just mentioned IIRC
[11:09] <shadeslayer_> yofel: fwiw we also have https://patches.ubuntu.com/
[11:09] <shadeslayer_> which is even more fun
[11:51] <shadeslayer_> foooooooood
[11:51] <shadeslayer_> \o/
[12:38] <shadeslayer_> I'm so full of food
[12:43] <lordievader> shadeslayer_: That's not a bad thing ;)
[12:43] <shadeslayer_> it is if it makes you sleepy
[13:34] <Riddell> vgezer: ping
[13:34] <Riddell> jose: ping
[13:34] <vgezer> hi Riddell :)
[13:34] <Riddell> vgezer: do you know the status of the new website?
[13:35] <Riddell> ovidiu-florin: ping (but you're on honeymoon)
[13:35] <Riddell> http://test.kubuntu.co.uk/ looks like it has a mobile theme now
[13:35] <vgezer> Riddell: unfortunately no
[13:35] <vgezer> yes, i saw it :/
[13:36] <vgezer> and it seems the database is gone or something?
[13:36] <vgezer> and currently doing my thesis, so couldnt have time for anything :/
[13:36] <Riddell> oh really? maybe it wasn't restored along with the web server
[13:36] <vgezer> but will be free soon! :)
[13:37] <vgezer> Riddell: because at least the homepage was working
[13:37] <Riddell> nah it's got stories in there
[13:37] <vgezer> and ovidiu-florin moved the news AFAIk
[13:37] <vgezer> what happened?
[13:40] <Riddell> we've no idea that's what we want to find out
[13:41] <vgezer> Riddell: i see, sorry i also havent talked to him for a long time
[14:13] <apachelogger> fucking ubiquity has different import styles all over the place
[15:00] <Riddell> manchicken: ping ↓
[15:00] <manchicken> Hi :)
[15:04] <Riddell> manchicken: in trello I subscribed you do qapt translations
[15:04] <Riddell> manchicken: do you know if it's got translations working?
[15:18] <Riddell> dinner: meet 20:00 in Kanas!
[15:18] <Riddell> ping shadeslayer_, yofel ↑
[15:22] <manchicken> I'm certain that it doesn't.
[15:22] <manchicken> I'm pretty sure I haven't seen that kind of activity on that project.
[15:23] <manchicken> And I haven't done it.
[15:36] <waddlesplash> Nice job with Plasma 5 Kubuntu, just a few rough spots:
[15:36] <waddlesplash>  * Kmix does not auto-start after installation to hard disk, it can be manually started though
[15:37] <waddlesplash>  * KDE Parted does not launch from the menu (throws a "so not found" exception) but does start from Terminal
[15:38] <waddlesplash>  * QtCurve is only the default theme for Qt5, I had to manually change configuration for GTK and Qt4
[15:38] <Riddell> manchicken: any chance you could put it on your todo list?
[15:39] <Riddell> thanks waddlesplash :)
[15:39] <waddlesplash> Welcome :)
[15:39] <Riddell> waddlesplash: I think we know about all of those, kde parted issue will be kdesu issue
[15:39] <waddlesplash> Well, lauching from Terminal not as root opened a kdesu dialog
[15:40] <Riddell> yeah known issue
[15:40] <Riddell> see link http://qa.kubuntu.co.uk/ kubuntu-ppa/next Plasma 5 bugs
[15:40] <Riddell> if you find other issues either poke here or report on launchpad.net/kubuntu-ppa and tag plasma5
[15:41] <Riddell> valorie: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/kubuntu-devel/2014-September/008747.html
[15:43] <Riddell> waddlesplash: oh and please stay around here if you want to help furhter testing :)
[15:45] <valorie> thanks Riddell my phone finally got your mail
[15:55] <waddlesplash> Riddell: will do. I'm recovering from HDD failure so I figured no point installing 14.04 only to upgrade next month
[15:56] <waddlesplash> Riddell: so I'll be using it quite a lot, everything from video editing to coding :)
[15:56] <Riddell> great
[15:57] <waddlesplash> Riddell: also -- how do I fix kmix for myself? copy the .desktop file to xdg?
[15:57] <waddlesplash> or just wait for an update?
[15:58] <waddlesplash> oh, also: the default window theme is Oxygen and not Breeze. Or was that intentional?
[16:41] <Riddell> waddlesplash: yes copy the autostart file to whereever the xdg autostart dir is
[16:42] <Riddell> waddlesplash: yes upstream says breeze isn't ready yet, it runs very slow on many graphics cards, you can try it and decide if you want to keep it
[16:53] <waddlesplash> hmm, it seemed ok to me
[16:53] <waddlesplash> (I have an NVIDIA GeForce 550, proprietary drivers v331)
[17:30] <manchicken> Riddell: I'm not sure how we would want to do that. Since we don't want qapt to be dependent on KDE libs, that's going to be a bunch of Qt translation stuff which lives outside of normal KDE translations from what I understand.
[17:31] <manchicken> Riddell: That said, I haven't been in there since apachelogger and others started doing other stuff to qapt, I think there may even be some KF5 porting involved... not sure.
[17:35] <Riddell> there's a kf5 post I'm sure
[17:36] <Riddell> and ki18n is a very small dependency
[18:03] <manchicken> Riddell: Is there a good place to learn about that code? I haven't touched any of that stuff before.
[18:03] <manchicken> Riddell: I need to finish my changes for the Net::AMQP::RabbitMQ Perl module that I'm doing, but I will probably finish those by this weekend.
[18:35] <Peace-> hi Riddell could you just upgrade kde connect on 14 04 ?
[18:35] <Peace-> 0.7.2 has ouchpad with multi-touch support for right click and middle click that works
[18:35] <Peace-> the ubuntu package instead no
[18:37] <Peace-> mmm wait maybe it's already done
[18:37] <Peace-> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdeconnect-kde/+bug/1335550
[18:38] <Peace-> :) srr http://packages.ubuntu.com/trusty-backports/kde/kdeconnect
[18:39] <Peace-> well it's 0.7.1 and not 0.7.2
[20:34]  * Riddell blogs https://blogs.kde.org/2014/09/11/akademy-wednesday-and-thursday-photo-blog
[20:40] <kubotu> feed branches-next had 25 updates, showing the latest 6
[20:42]  * Riddell polls https://blogs.kde.org/2014/09/11/akademy-poll
[20:42] <Riddell> oh doing KF5 packaging ↑
[21:22] <Riddell> grr, shadeslayer_ made all the patches to ecm fail
[21:28] <yofel> home sweet home :)
[21:32] <Riddell> thanks for coming to akademy
[21:40] <kubotu> feed branches-next had 25 updates, showing the latest 6
[21:54] <waddlesplash> just discovered this bug:
[21:55] <waddlesplash> LibreOffie uses default styling (so it looks like Win98) on Kubuntu Plasma 5
[21:55] <Riddell> yeah we also got that one
[21:55] <waddlesplash> ah okay
[21:55] <Riddell> not sure where's that set but we should work it out
[21:56] <waddlesplash> ok, it doesn't appear to detect Oxygen icon theme even
[21:57] <waddlesplash> ah never mind it does
[21:57] <waddlesplash> was looking in "Appearence" not "View" :S
[21:59] <waddlesplash> Riddell: looks like running SAL_USE_VCLPLUGIN=kde4 lowriter works
[21:59] <waddlesplash> not sure how to set that as default tho
[21:59] <waddlesplash> still looks a bit ugly, but overall much better
[22:00]  * Riddell adds comment to bug 1362759
[22:01] <waddlesplash> ah hm that does not fix the file dialogs
[22:01] <waddlesplash> altho I recall someone in the LibO channel saying they were going to disable that code
[22:01] <waddlesplash> as some bug in Qt causes LibO to crash in some cases
[22:01] <waddlesplash> apparently they never upstreamed the patch
[22:01] <waddlesplash> or at least for qt4 they didn't
[22:03] <Riddell> there's some students in munich working on porting it to qt5 fortunately
[22:03] <Riddell> but that won't happen in time for 14.10
[22:04] <waddlesplash> yes, I recall that
[22:09] <waddlesplash> ok, no luck with "fgrep -Ri vclplugin" in .config/libreoffice and /usr/share/libreoffice
[22:09] <waddlesplash> and various variants of that (e.g. "vcl", "sal_vcl", "sal_use_vclplugin", etc."
[22:12] <waddlesplash> no luck
[22:12] <waddlesplash> looks like Arch has some way of doing it https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/LibreOffice#Theme
[22:12] <waddlesplash> may want to reverse engineer theirs, or just insert SAL_USE_VCLPLUGIN in all the .desktop files
[22:12] <waddlesplash> if that's at all feasable
[22:18] <apachelogger> Riddell: patches you say
[22:18] <shadeslayer_> Riddell: you probably want to grab ecm from git bti
[22:18] <shadeslayer_> *btw
[22:18] <apachelogger> why were there patches in ecm?
[22:21] <Riddell> gone now
[22:22] <Riddell> thanks to shadeslayer_
[22:22] <Riddell> http://qa.kubuntu.co.uk/kf5-status/build_status_5.2.0_utopic.html it'll be all green in the morning
[22:26] <waddlesplash> btw, wasn't 14.10 supposed to be Wayland?
[22:26] <waddlesplash> or was that deferred?
[22:28] <Riddell> I don't think we ever said that
[22:28] <Riddell> we'll switch to Wayland when upstream says it's ready
[22:28] <Riddell> upstream KDE that is
[22:28] <Riddell> but it's nowhere near ready yet
[22:29] <Riddell> maybe a tech preview next year
[23:00] <waddlesplash> Riddell: "We'll be staying with X on the images for our 13.10 release now in development and the 14.04LTS release next year. After that we hope to switch to Wayland which is what KDE and every other Linux distro hopes to do. "
[23:00] <waddlesplash> so, you said "after [the 14.04] release" which I presume meant 14.10
[23:04] <shadeslayer_> waddlesplash: well, upstream KDE is still not working on wayland
[23:04] <shadeslayer_> so 'after' here means, as soon as things start working
[23:04] <waddlesplash> ah okay
[23:04] <shadeslayer_> 15.10 is my guess
[23:22] <waddlesplash> this is bad, the whole system locked up except for the mouse cursor and I had to do a hard reset
[23:22] <waddlesplash> what do I need in order to report a bug?
[23:29] <Riddell> that'll be an issue with the graphics driver (interacting with kwin I guess)
[23:30] <Riddell> I'm afraid I've no idea how to usefully report it, try asking in #ubuntu-x
[23:30] <waddlesplash> kk
[23:35] <waddlesplash> Riddell: running the Date/Time configurator and enabling internet time causes it to go to 100% cpu usage and hang forever
[23:35] <waddlesplash> or at least for 2-3 minutes which is when I killed it
[23:36] <Riddell> htop will tell you what's going out of control, probably kded5
[23:36] <Riddell> attach a gdb and get a backtrace
[23:36] <Riddell> report upstream to bugs.kde.org
[23:37] <Riddell> shadeslayer_: http://qa.kubuntu.co.uk/kf5-status/build_status_5.2.0_utopic.html "No list-missing in build log." "No lintian output in build log."


[08:13] <nigelb> can someone approve a karmic nomination for papyon bug 401028
[12:11] <vinux_> hello
[12:12] <vinux_> My wireless mouse is getting detected but does not work...can anyone help please ?
[12:12] <nigelb> vinux_: please ask in #ubuntu, that is the main help channel
[12:14] <vinux_> nigelb : Thanks. I did post the question there but can't seem to get any answers. Just wondering if there other channels specific to USB related issues.
[12:15] <nigelb> vinux_: nope, but you can try #ubuntu-beginners or post in the forums
[12:15] <vinux_> okay thanks.
[16:48] <LaserJock> anybody know what the best way to "reset" the gwibber configuration is?
[20:27] <chrisccoulson> nigelb - papyon is uploaded to karmic-proposed now
[20:27] <nigelb> chrisccoulson: great :)
[20:27] <chrisccoulson> it's just waiting for someone to approve it in the queue now
[20:27] <nigelb> chrisccoulson: in that bug there is a pymsn task, but I donno why
[20:27] <chrisccoulson> yeah, i'm not sure why. feel free to close that task
[20:27] <nigelb> aha :)
[20:28] <nigelb> I'm just waiting to check with pedro
[20:28] <nigelb> he set it from confirmed -> triaged
[21:46] <TheMuso> Good morning.
[21:46] <nigelb> good morning TheMuso :)
[22:16] <RAOF> TheMuso: Good morning.
[22:18] <crimsun> audio bugs triaged (about 1000 this weekend)
[22:18] <crimsun> err, userspace audio bugs
[22:18] <crimsun> we have linux and alsa-driver remaining, and I'm working through those this week
[22:23] <TheMuso> crimsun: Dude, you're a machine! Thanks a lot. I was going to trawl old pulse bugs again today, but I dare say they've been covered...


[00:04] <bkerensa> nathwill: yo
[00:04] <bkerensa> nathwill: didnt see you in here... so many channels/servers
[00:09] <nathwill> yo
[00:09] <nathwill> how goes?
[00:12] <bkerensa> nathwill: good
[00:13] <bkerensa> nathwill: getting ready to go to sunny california
[00:13] <bkerensa> :D
[00:13] <bkerensa> then Hong Kong
[00:13] <bkerensa> then Cali again ;p
[00:14] <nathwill> going to hong kong?!
[00:14] <nathwill> explain yourself!
[00:16] <bkerensa> nathwill: OpenStack Developer Summit ofc
[00:17] <bkerensa> I wish I could go to NYC for KalturaConnect but maybe next year
[00:49] <nathwill> ah
[00:50] <nathwill> alright, peace out
[01:00] <bkerensa> oh balls
[01:00]  * bkerensa runs to a client property to do work
[19:17] <bkerensa> Brian_H: http://www.flickr.com/photos/bkerensa/9361242427/
[19:19] <Brian_H> bkerensa: :)


[00:02] <phunyguy> Pici: did samfreenode ever resolve ban or are they still evading?
[00:02] <phunyguy> Pici: I think it was you that banned them recently anyway.
[00:03] <Pici> phunyguy: I banned them again after they evaded ikonia's ban.  It looks like the tried to resolve early this morning... unsucessfully
[00:05] <phunyguy> Pici: they were just in #u-ot a while ago it appears.
[00:07] <k1l> as maelknotreek he showed he had not really good intentions
[00:09] <phunyguy> oh that was the same person?
[00:10] <k1l> yep
[00:10] <phunyguy> ahh guess I could've scrolled up.
 are you samfreenode ? <ikonia> have you previously used that nick ?<maelknotreek> ikonia:yes
[00:30] <phunyguy> yep.
[01:33] <Pici> now that ubottu.com is under my control, I'm adding some new things that I've had on my personal wishlist for a while...
[01:33] <Pici> like a dashboard for bot statuses: http://i.imgur.com/LGhYS9l.png
[01:35] <Unit193> ooooh, shiny!  Giving out access? :---D
[01:35] <Pici> soon ;)
[01:35] <Unit193> Also, seems ubottu may be faster than Drone`, I presume you don't want it though?
[01:36] <Pici> hosted on it you mean?
[01:37] <Pici> I'd like to get meetingology back up and running before I start adding other bots on it
[01:38] <Unit193> Is nice to have more than one failure point, and looks like now that I've configured the server Drone` is got very lot latency.
[08:20] <Stevendale> Hi
[08:21] <Stevendale> I'd like to be unbanned from #ubuntu-offtopic on a specific date


[18:08] <bvpr> help
[18:08] <bvpr> When my laptop is charging (the power cable is connected and the battery is below 100%) the computer is reduced in responsiveness. The reduced responsiveness is especially noticeable with the mouse pointer (using both track pad and external wireless/USB mouse) which becomes so laggy as to render it unusable.  These symptoms are not present when using Windows 7 on the same hardware with the same battery/charging state how to fix


[07:46] <phako> hey
[07:46] <phako> I'm running 13.10 with staging-ppa and pidgin and chrome are missig "narrow" letters such as f, i, l, etc.
[07:47] <phako> and gnome-terminal
[07:50] <phako> hm, seems an issue with cantarell
[07:51] <phako> yeah, cantarell with any hinting but slight loses small letters
[12:02] <gawron> Hi there! :-)
[12:02] <gawron> I have a problem with nautilus search on ubuntugnome 13.10
[12:03] <gawron> Anyone here who might help?
[12:28] <bjsnider> what about it?
[12:31] <gawron> About tracker search not working there :-)
[12:31] <gawron> and thus also Activities search not able to find indexed content
[12:32] <gawron> I know that standard ubuntu nautilus is built without "enable tracker" flag
[12:32] <gawron> but even after recompiling nautilus from source it does not seem to work
[12:32] <gawron> Nb. tracker results show in file selector search (and of course in tracker-needle)
[12:33] <gawron> So... where to look now...?
[12:33] <bjsnider> system-settings>search
[12:34] <bjsnider> turn on documents and files
[12:34] <gawron> Nope - this is set "on"
[12:34] <gawron> so I can find files that are in zeitgeist recent list
[12:35] <gawron> but nothing that has been indexed by tracker (e.g. by typing contents of files)
[12:36] <ricotz> darkxst, jfyi, i have started to push some 3.11 packages to the trusty pocket of staging
[17:00] <Munchor> Hi guys
[17:00] <voldyman> s
[17:00] <Munchor> How are you handling GNOME 3.10 not being shipped with Ubuntu 14.04?
[17:01] <Munchor> I'm assuming a PPA; right?
[17:06] <bjsnider> has that decision been made?
[17:15] <renebarbosa> not yet
[17:15] <renebarbosa> as far i know
[17:33] <bjsnider> they just have to figure out the systemd problem
[19:11] <xara> hey
[20:07] <darkxst> ricotz, great!
[20:07] <darkxst> ricotz, btw https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/mozilla.dev.tech.js-engine/h6pw_gCCsfU
[20:10] <ricotz> darkxst, finally ;)
[20:10] <ricotz> darkxst, btw, ignore the -c1 changes in debian/rules in some uploads
[20:11] <ricotz> i didnt bother to update the symbols files for the longer lasting builds for now
[20:11] <ricotz> it is just useful to have those version to be able to build newer things in the ppa
[20:21] <darkxst> ricotz, ok
[21:50] <MrBatty> Hello. I've switched to GNOME 3.10 from Unity.  Is it possible to change the appearance of the title bar from the brown/orange to the original GNOME theme?
[22:40] <njalk> MrBatty, sure
[22:41] <njalk> open tweak tool
[22:41] <njalk> you can set your theme there
[22:44] <MrBatty> njalk: i tried but there appears to be no setting for the window title bar color or decorators.
[22:58] <njalk> it should be the window option
[23:01] <MrBatty> I don't see it...  there is no major options grouping with that title, and I see no "Window" option in the settings for the other sections...
[23:01] <MrBatty> I see "shell theme" ?
[23:05] <bjsnider> MrBatty, tweak>appearance>window/gtk+ change to adwaita
[23:10] <MrBatty> bjsnider: there is no "appearance" option in my Tweak Tool, although "tweak>Theme>Gtk+ Theme" changes menu and tool bar colors - but does not change the window title / decorators style.  Am I using the correct tweak tool?
[23:11] <bjsnider> i don't know what tool you're using
[23:12] <bjsnider> gnome-tweak-tool 3.10.1 does contain the appearance tab
[23:13] <MrBatty> OK -  I have 3.8 installed.  Should I see 3.10 in the repos?
[23:18] <MrBatty> I am using an Ubuntu install plus the 3.10 PPA - is this correct?
[23:30] <MrBatty> ok... i need the staging ppa.  off to install.  thx.