[09:22] <HEP85__> djm62: I got the link, but not your problem
[09:22] <Hawdy> ShackJack: think not ^^
[09:23] <Jeroenlabass>  i want to ask about tk  if i started tk and i root = Tkroot.new() it returns an error near token '('
[09:23] <skollie> hawdy: make sure that you are booting from/have access to the drive where the bootloader is and/or that the boot loader is installed in the correct place
[09:23] <NotLarry> Ok, I just did a lamps install and have a system that seems to have no software installed or running.  Other than being an complete idiot, what am I missing?
[09:23] <local> i can even change to the directories on the server by the /net directory
[09:23] <Jeroenlabass> can someone help?
[09:23] <Hawdy> skollie: The problem is most likely because Im using raid
[09:24] <HOT> Jeroenlabass: ask your question chappy
[09:24] <Nutubuntu> I've seen Error 21 two or three times, and just like you, Hawdy, I'm using RAID; /boot is part of the RAID
[09:24] <kravlin> is there a way to get /lib/ld-linux.so.2 on the Amd64 version of Ubuntu?
[09:24] <skollie> hawdy: could be - in which case I cannot help you further
[09:24] <local> jsut that automount doesnt work when i go to a directory configured by the auto.master
[09:24] <scoobtits> k guys steam just installed  ; )
[09:24] <Jeroenlabass>  i want to ask about tk  if i started tk and i root = Tkroot.new() it returns an error near token '('
[09:24] <kravlin> I need it to execute a file
[09:24] <Jeroenlabass> Rubytk
[09:24] <TheNo1Yeti> Anyone know of a way to find your internal network ip on a computer without me going through and rebooting each server on the network one by one in a specific order?
[09:24] <djm62> HEP85__: then I am indeed confusing you, but it was someone else's problem
[09:24] <mrsno> TheNo1Yeti tried ifconfig?
[09:24] <Hawdy> skollie: ok, but thanks any
[09:24] <HOT> local: i cant remember the command off the top of my head, but you have tried something like "service restart autofs" ?
[09:24] <HEP85__> djm62: never mind
[09:24] <anixhkr> Hawdy: what type of raid setup?
[09:25] <Jeroenlabass> Hot i cant start a window from my irb shell
[09:25] <djm62> dam saccades
[09:25] <HEP85__> kravlin: what exactly are you trying to achieve?
[09:25] <local> HOT been done.. even rebooted.. its the same config files as from prior ot a reinstall.. i backed upt he /etc dir
[09:25] <TheNo1Yeti> mrsno: Ahahaha!  Thank you.   Well that tells me that I'm a retard and trying to open ssh ports to a freaking xbox
[09:25] <swmiller6> I have a weird problem with my Internet connection on a fresh install of feisty.. I can not seem to get more then around 60 kB/s out of the connection no matter which nic card I use... I have 3 other computers connected to the same router one with feisty (besides the one I'm referring to) and 2 with windows xp, so I do not think it is a router problem..
[09:25] <mrsno> TheNo1Yeti maybe set a static ip :)
[09:25] <Jeroenlabass> HOT do u know RUBYTK?
[09:25] <HEP85__> scoobtits: glad to hear this
[09:26] <anixhkr> Hawdy: is it software raid or hardware raid?
[09:26] <HOT> local: check your hosts file, make sure the NIS master is specified , it might be that simple
[09:26] <scoobtits> HEP85_, yeaaaaaassSSSSssssssssssss    1.6 is installing
[09:26] <local> NIS?  i dont use that
[09:26] <TheNo1Yeti> mrsno: I wish I could on this linksys.  But it likes to assign ip addresses by boot order no matter what I do
[09:26] <HEP85__> scoobtits: you might run into an error with a "bin/vgui2" or similar when starting the second time
[09:26] <HOT> Jeroenlabass: sorry no i dont
[09:26] <kravlin> HEP85__: The Source Dedicated Server Update tool (For games from Steam/Valve) Wants a file that is at /lib/ld-linux.so.2. I have the AMD64 arcatecture so i don't have that file
[09:26] <Jeroenlabass> aww but if u open a shell
[09:26] <HEP85__> scoobtits: then simply start the command from the steam directory
[09:27] <mrsno> TheNo1Yeti you could just set the machine to a static ip , outside the scope of the dhcp server running on the linksys
[09:27] <HOT> local: sorry , im thinking of the someone else, do check your host file anyway, i have seen weirder things
[09:27] <telexicon> kravlin, wine doesnt work on amd64
[09:27] <local> I just have this in my autofs conf file...    -fstype=nfs,rw fileserver-01:/storage/data-01/iso/&
[09:27] <mrsno> nothing worse than having to try to figure out what ip is what :-)
[09:27] <Jeroenlabass> and u type and it turns out an syntax error near token '(" what does that mean HOT?
[09:27] <scoobtits> HEP85_, start what command from the steam dir?
[09:27] <HEP85__> telexicon: it does work very good. you want a picture?
[09:27] <skollie> TheNo1Yeti: can linksys assign hard-coded ip's based on mac address?
[09:27] <telexicon> HEP85_, ok
[09:27] <kravlin> telexicon: Its not wine. Its a dedicated server that's built to run on linux
[09:27] <local> Jul 15 15:27:36 desktop automount[12544] : lookup(program): lookup for me failed
[09:28] <Nutubuntu> anixhkr,  Hawdy - same problem, Error 21 intermittently - on software RAID1. Could it be that grub exists on only one disk of the RAIDed /boot partition?
[09:28] <HEP85__> telexicon: gimme some time
[09:28] <HOT> local: for starters stick fileserver-01 into hosts
[09:28] <TheNo1Yeti> skollie: Checking it now actually
[09:28] <telexicon> kravlin, its not 64bit?
[09:28] <Dav2> wondering if someone can help me i am haveing issues running my windows xp after installing ubuntu
[09:28] <local> HOT i tried that.. and it looks up in dns fine w/o being in the hosts file
[09:28] <skollie> dav2: what issues?
[09:29] <telexicon> Dav2, what happens?
[09:29] <HOT> local: obvious question, you can ping it?
[09:29] <anixhkr> Nutubuntu: Hawdy - grub doesn't handle raid setups well out of the box...you gotta change some stuff first.
[09:29] <Dav2> get an error miessange wehn botting from the partition 2 secs
[09:29] <kravlin> telexicon: I don't think that the dedicated server is because of what it's looking for.  I can't get it to run in the 64bit Arcatecture. I was wondering if there's a way to get it to work without reinstalling ubuntu again.
[09:29] <Dav2> <windows root> \system32\hal.dll file is missing or curupt
[09:29] <TheNo1Yeti> HA! Woot! I finally got it to accept remote connections to that box.  Now, anyone know what port # vnc works off of?
[09:29] <local> HOT.. the HOST IS UP!  i said that.  i can even cd into the fileserver on the /net direcotry.. just not those from the auto.master config
[09:30] <LinuxProbie> Can anyone help me use VNC to view my windows machine from Feisty?
[09:30] <telexicon> LinuxProbie, remote desktop would work better
[09:30] <mhz`> applications > internet > terminal services
[09:30] <HEP85__> telexicon: do you know where I could quickly upload my screenshot for you?
[09:30] <anixhkr> Nutubuntu: Hawdy - i would recommend reading this: http://www.gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Gentoo_Install_on_Software_RAID ...this should help you get it set up correctly (note: this is for gentoo, but gives you the idea of what needs to be done)
[09:30] <telexicon> HEP85_, imageshack?
[09:30] <LinuxProbie> telexicon, I don't wanna have to log out the current session
[09:31] <Nutubuntu> t/y anixhkr ... reading ...
[09:31] <anixhkr> np
[09:31] <mrsno> TheNo1Yeti if you are using vnc remotely over the internet, i would recommend about thinking about putting it over the ssh port, so its encrypted
[09:31] <telexicon> LinuxProbie, oh ok
[09:31] <mrsno> or alternatively you could use something like freenx
[09:31] <HOT> local: i hear you, i just like to work from the physical layer upwards, anyway....when you did a make on auto.master did it throw up any messages?
[09:31] <TheNo1Yeti> mrsno: Ahhh, okay.  Thanks
[09:31] <m1r> on fresh install and update/upgrade my box pops error : cant write to cache
[09:31] <local> HOT ok
[09:31] <LinuxProbie> I'm just using VNC on my local network
[09:31] <ubuntuserver> hi
[09:31] <ubuntuserver> how to compile
[09:32] <ubuntuserver> mysql on ubuntu
[09:32] <HEP85__> telexicon: http://www.imagehoop.com/view_thumb/8eef31457/capture.png
[09:32] <LinuxProbie> I can view my Ubuntu computer from xp just fine, but not vice versa.
[09:32] <mrsno> TheNo1Yeti searching for vnc + ssh on ubuntuforums shall explain the steps required, security steps always need to be taken :)
[09:32] <local> HOT no make.. just the feisty package install
[09:32] <ubuntuserver> i want to intall mysql like mysql .deb package
[09:32] <ubuntuserver> someo help
[09:32] <ShackJack> ubuntuserver: No need to... plenty of ready made packages...
[09:32] <kravlin> linuxprobie: Do you have a server running on your windows machine?
[09:32] <HEP85__> telexicon: http://www.imagehoop.com/view_image/8eef31457/capture.png
[09:32] <m1r> ubuntuserver , apt-get install mysql
[09:32] <LinuxProbie> kravlin, Nope, just XP Pro
[09:32] <variant> !mysql | ubuntuserver
[09:32] <ubuntuserver> ShackJack, i want to compile becouse i want no to install some collation
[09:32] <ubotu> ubuntuserver: LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[09:32] <TheNo1Yeti> mrsno: Oh I understand.  Work hates it when I setup a server because I am a paranoid freak and change the ssh port. :)
[09:33] <kravlin> linuxprobie: I meant a server for VNC.
[09:33] <LinuxProbie> kravlin, Yes
[09:33] <ubuntuserver> mlr pfuuu
[09:33] <NotLarry> I just installed ubuntu server to a box last night, used the LAMP install option, it finished, rebooted, now when I log into the console I nothing (LAMP related) is running, I can't even find apt or sshd installed
[09:33] <ubuntuserver> mlr without collation?
[09:33] <mrsno> TheNo1Yeti security through obsurity is not greater security, but it is one of the many things you can do :)
[09:33] <mrsno> obscurity*
[09:34] <telexicon> HEP85_, cool, steam is fun
[09:34] <NotLarry> I was looking but found nothing about post install configuration, just references to "up and running in the 15 minutes it takes to install the server"
[09:34] <ubuntuserver> ????
[09:34] <ubuntuserver> ?
[09:34] <ubuntuserver> somone here?
[09:34] <telexicon> ubuntuserver, nope
[09:34] <Dav2> is anyone able to help me with this error?
[09:34] <HEP85__> telexicon: I was so glad they at last have wine packages for 64 bit since feisty
[09:34] <telexicon> ubuntuserver, there are not 1116 people here
[09:34] <ubuntuserver> telexicon, can ytou help to compile mysql
[09:35] <swmiller6> Dav2 can you boot into windows?
[09:35] <telexicon> Dav2, can you paste it?
[09:35] <Dav2> <windows root> \system32\hal.dll file is missing or curupt
[09:35] <local> HOT, ???
[09:35] <Dav2> cant boot into windows
[09:35] <max01> hi all, im thinking of getting two 500gig sata disks for a raid 1 and would like an encyrpted file system for secuirty will ubuntu support this?
[09:35] <telexicon> ubuntuserver, use the package manager
[09:35] <Dav2> get that error when i try
[09:35] <ubuntuserver> telexicon, i don't want to install much colation
[09:35] <telexicon> Dav2, oh, hmm..
[09:35] <rolfen> Dav2: what ver of windows do you have?
[09:35] <telexicon> ubuntuserver, use mysql's prebuilt packages?
[09:36] <swmiller6> can you mount the windows partition in ubuntu
[09:36] <TheNo1Yeti> mrsno: Oh I understand.  But working in an enviroment that is well known by hackers and attempted frequently doing something as simple as changing the ssh port has thwarted countless hacking attempts on our server.  Plus we run nessa & tripwire as well as several other things
[09:36] <Dav2> xp pro
[09:36] <local> does the ubuntu  2.6.20-16-server come compiled for nfs 3 and nfs 4 and tcp?
[09:36] <telexicon> local, yes
[09:36] <ubuntuserver> telexicon, where t odownload ?
[09:36] <rolfen> Dav2: want me to send you my hal.dll?
[09:36] <telexicon> ubuntuserver, http://mysql.org/downloads/
[09:36] <mrsno> TheNo1Yeti may i suggest the package "fail2ban" , as changing the port just means that their port scan will take longer to complete, its still visible, fail2ban works by minimising the dictionary attacks you always see in auth.log
[09:36] <rolfen> Dav2: that is if it missing of course
[09:36] <HOT> local: just for kicks try to go into the directory that should be mounted#
[09:36] <Dav2> i got a hal.dll i red on some tech forams its more about boot.ini
[09:37] <mrsno> it supports mail/httpd as well as ssh
[09:37] <anixhkr> Dav2: can you use the rescue mode on xp and replace the current hal.dll with the one from cd?
[09:37] <ubuntuserver> telexicon, but i use ubuntu feisty?
[09:37] <telexicon> TheNo1Yeti, you could also try knockd
[09:37] <local> HOT that dir doesnt exist.. i tried...
[09:37] <rolfen> Dav2: by the way also try posting in that channel: #windows
[09:37] <local> HOT it should automount but I get... "Jul 15 15:37:12 desktop automount[14018] : failed to mount /iso/me
[09:37] <local> "
[09:37] <TheNo1Yeti> telexicon: Actually, I just looked into port knocking on friday.  But it is not feasible for our enviroment
[09:38] <recoy^> Hello.
[09:38] <telexicon> ubuntuserver, the ubuntu LTS deb should work
[09:38] <Dav2> hmm i'll see if i can get it sorted with the windows disc tryed oncealredy guess i'll make another attempt :P
[09:38] <HOT> local: the target , you have the correct permissions?
[09:38] <ubuntuserver> telexicon, and how to compile with much collation
[09:38] <telexicon> ubuntuserver, what does that mean?
[09:39] <ubuntuserver> telexicon, and how to compile with much collation
[09:39] <ubuntuserver> that is withoutf utf8
[09:39] <local> what do you mean HOT the correct permissions?
[09:39] <telexicon> ubuntuserver, you want to sort papers?
[09:39] <swmiller6> I have a weird problem with my Internet connection on a fresh install of feisty.. I can not seem to get more then around 60 kB/s out of the connection no matter which nic card I use... I have 3 other computers connected to the same router one with feisty (besides the one I'm referring to) and 2 with windows xp, so I do not think it is a router problem..
[09:39] <ubuntuserver> for example i don't want to use serbian langauges
[09:39] <telexicon> ubuntulog, filter them when you input data
[09:40] <JayRoe> can I make a script that has root rights?
[09:40] <telexicon> ubuntuserver, filter them when you input data
[09:40] <stefg> !ipv6 | swmiller6
[09:40] <ubotu> swmiller6: To disable ipv6 read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WebBrowsingSlowIPv6IPv4
[09:40] <HEP85> Dav2: what did you do before this error? what did you change?
[09:40] <telexicon> JayRoe, you can, but generally you dont want to
[09:40] <swmiller6> Tried that
[09:40] <cereal> JayRoe: Yes.
[09:40] <swmiller6> no difference
[09:40] <recoy^> i need some help creating a dual boot. linux is the master and windows xp is the slave can  anyone help me get a boot menu?
[09:40] <cereal> JayRoe: Lookup setuid
[09:41] <Nutubuntu> t/y anixhkr for a very interesting article on grub & software RAID ...
[09:41] <telexicon> recoy^, when you boot it says "grub starting" press a key.. a menu will come up
[09:41] <local> HOT?
[09:41] <swmiller6> the web browsing is not slow
[09:41] <recoy^> telexicon: thats it?
[09:41] <swmiller6> the download speed is slow
[09:41] <telexicon> recoy^, yes
[09:41] <HOT> local: can you try two things for me , " tail -100 /var/log/messages" on the the fileserver and look for anything odd, an also "cat /etc/mtab" and look for anything weird
[09:41] <recoy^> telexicon:  thanks
[09:41] <Savenger> can i tell a program to use a different sampling rate for audio than default?
[09:41] <telexicon> they really need to fix that...
[09:42] <telexicon> cause if someone installs it, they think ubuntu killed their windows.. and it gives linux a bad rep
[09:42] <local> hot just this.. automount[14018] : lookup(program): lookup for me failed
[09:42] <JayRoe> telexicon, I do in this case. I have a script to start mythtv and I want the script to mount some shares on the network when myth is started, so it has access to the files on the  media server.
[09:42] <telexicon> cause they cant find the boot menu
[09:42] <telexicon> JayRoe, what about mounting the shares on boot?
[09:42] <swmiller6> Thought it was the sis900 driver so I tried a pci nic card and got the same problem there
[09:43] <telexicon> JayRoe, the other thing, is if you put it in /etc/fstab with user option, regular users can mount it
[09:43] <reesehazel> Anyone here good with WiFi?
[09:43] <JayRoe> telexicon, can I add it to fstab without mounting it at boot? Cause that kind of hangs the system
[09:44] <telexicon> JayRoe, with the noauto option
[09:44] <anixhkr> Nutubuntu: here is a guide using the alternate ubuntu cd and setting up raid: http://users.piuha.net/martti/comp/ubuntu/raid.html
[09:44] <JayRoe> telexicon thanks :D
[09:44] <telexicon> JayRoe, no problem
[09:44] <HOT> local: you mentioned this is a new machine i think? has auto.net changed?
[09:45] <local> no
[09:45] <local> why
[09:45] <swmiller6> @reesehazel what is your wifi problem
[09:45] <telexicon> recoy^, did it work?
[09:45] <anixhkr> Nutubuntu: now, that's for 6.06, but should also be the same (i would suppose) for 7.04
[09:45] <xero> anyone here have any agere modem experience?
[09:45] <JayRoe> telexicon, like this?; //host/share /var/lib/mythtv/music  smbfs	user/noauto
[09:45] <local> HOT i can get to stuff if i go from the /net dir.. thats fine.. and the /iso dir from the autofs.iso file is fine.. just no mounting "(
[09:45] <reesehazel> swmiller6: We have a lot of free wifi hotspots here in HOuston
[09:46] <JayRoe> telexicon, meant user,noaudio
[09:46] <starshine> does ubuntu use termcap or only terminfo?
[09:46] <recoy^> telexicon:  yes the menu popped up but there is no selection for windows
[09:46] <reesehazel> sometimes when I can get on the web fine and sometimes I cannot at all
[09:46] <HOT> local: can you just paste the mount line one more time, i lost it
[09:46] <Nutubuntu> anixhkr,  that's the guide I followed, I think ... the gentoo article you cited pointed to another article that suggests a possible kernel bug resulting in data corruption when software RAID is run with a journaling fs (e.g., ext3, reiserfs ...) Do you know anything further about that? It was the first I'd heard of it.
[09:46] <reesehazel> even when I have the signal
[09:46] <telexicon> JayRoe, yes that works
[09:46] <telexicon> recoy^, was there a selection for 'Other'?
[09:46] <stefg> !dialup | xero
[09:46] <ubotu> xero: You want to connect via dial-up? Read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DialupModemHowto
[09:46] <JayRoe> telexicon, thanks again, I'm going to give it a try.
[09:46] <swmiller6> is there an error message
[09:46] <local> * -fstype=nfs,rw,tcp,soft,intr,rsize=8192,wsize=8192,nfsvers=3 fileserver-01:/storage/data-01/iso/&
[09:46] <xero> iv got martian running
[09:47] <recoy^> telexicon: i just saw many other ubuntu selections
[09:47] <HOT> local: is -soft telling you anything at boot?
[09:47] <anixhkr> Nutubuntu: no, since i haven't myself had difficulties (i use hard raid).
[09:47] <local> NOT
[09:47] <xero> what i need is to have the shell window hidden after i connect
[09:47] <local> HOT no it doesnt....
[09:47] <Nutubuntu> t/y anixhkr
[09:47] <reesehazel> Whswmiller6: Sometimes I'm in a free WiFi zone and I get on the signal, it says, "Connection Established"... but I cannot connect to the Internet
[09:47] <local> HOT i tried ith w/o soft
[09:47] <telexicon> recoy^, but not 'Other'?
[09:47] <reesehazel> There is no error message
[09:47] <recoy^> telexicon:  no "other"
[09:47] <telexicon> recoy^, can you pastebin this file: /boot/grub/menu.lst
[09:48] <swmiller6> next time try running your network manager through a terminal so you can see the errors if any
[09:48] <HOT> local: cant we strip it back a bit ? just get the basics and test with them maybe just "nfs,rw" for now?
[09:48] <anixhkr> Nutubuntu: have you read the FakeRaidHowto for ubuntu?
[09:49] <reesehazel> swmiller6: the other day, I was on a signal that I had been on before (at the community college), the computer said, "Connection established" but I could not get on the web.  So as I was working on something offline, all of the sudden, I sad (about 5 or 7 minutes later) that I had just then connected.
[09:49] <Nutubuntu> anixhkr,  not sure. Probably ... I read a lot about RAID before setting mine up
[09:49] <anixhkr> Nutubuntu: that seems to have some tips and workarounds
[09:49] <anixhkr> Nutubuntu: here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FakeRaidHowto
[09:49] <Nutubuntu> t/y again :) anixhkr
[09:49] <j1tters> hey all. got a weird quirk im trying to get rid of.  im running twinview with a nvidia 7300..  dual 1600x1200 dislpays. runs fine. but. for some reason. when i move my mouse to the bottem of the screen it scrolls up like 2 inches.
[09:49] <recoy^> telexicon: check pm please
[09:50] <telexicon> recoy^, i cant pm
[09:50] <local> HOT .. same failure
[09:50] <j1tters> its showing my display dimensions as 3200x1440 for some reason. but both displays are set to 1600x1200.. any ideas on how to fix this. its really annoying
[09:50] <reesehazel> swmiller6: by the way, I'm running cassandra-linuxmint (gnome)
[09:50] <telexicon> recoy^, open the file with Text Editor, its at /boot/grub/menu.lst
[09:50] <HOT> local: just a quick sanity check thats actually "-fstype=nfs,rw,tcp,soft,intr,rsize=8192,wsize=8192,nfsvers=3 fileserver-01:/storage/data-01/iso/&"
[09:50] <HOT> local: notice the -
[09:51] <brunner> how can I figure out what driver I'm using to mount NTFS partitions and whether or not it's safe to write to it
[09:51] <brunner> ?
[09:51] <telexicon> recoy^, open a terminal and type "sudo nano /boot/grub/menu.lst"
[09:51] <recoy^> telexicon: got it
[09:51] <HOT> local: just for kicks try using a static ip rather than hostname ie "<IP_ADDRESS>/storage/blah"
[09:52] <local> HOT .. that didnt work either :(
[09:52] <HOT> local: static?
[09:52] <brunner> I mean, would it be a bad idea to download torrents to an NTFS partition, or is NTFS too unstable to do that safely?
[09:52] <un4get> gnomefreak: is there a way for me to undo everything i did and get the video settings to the original ubuntu settings?
[09:52] <jwtodd> hey ... is anyone familiar with brightside? the edge flipping utility?
[09:52] <recoy^> telexicon: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/30032/
[09:52] <un4get> gnomefreak: cause its not working and i keep getting a black screen
[09:52] <HOT> brunner: ntsf is very stable
[09:52] <anixhkr> Nutubuntu: a post about soft raid howto using ubuntu installer: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=464758
[09:52] <local> huh
[09:53] <local> HOT i used the IP>... same failure
[09:53] <gnomefreak> un4get: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and set driver to vesa or nv
[09:53] <recoy^> telexicon: ok its open in terminal
[09:53] <local> HOT.. and if that were the issue.. then the /net dir wouldnt work either....
[09:53] <un4get> gnomefreak: did that, still i cant see nothing but i can hear him login to ubuntu
[09:53] <HOT> local: well bugger me, can you do "df" just to make sure the mount point isnt in use from prior experimentaton
[09:54] <local> HOT  its not...
[09:54] <telexicon> recoy^, can you open another terminal and type: sudo fdisk -l     and paste that?
[09:54] <gnomefreak> un4get: than im not sure i dont think its your drivers than it may be a problem with gnome
[09:54] <tinin> Hi, is there a graphical tool to manage mountpoints, filesystems and permissions of th HD?
[09:54] <Nutubuntu> t/y anixhkr - I'm bookmarking these as I go ... trying to figure out now exactly what grub is currently doing, and then what it *should* be doing, to avoid those Error 21
[09:54] <un4get> gnomefreak: i setted it to NV and to Nvidia and to VEsa and to VGA, nothing works
[09:54] <nibblesmx> does anyone know why my Quit Dialog doesn't show shutdown nor restart??
[09:54] <thugren> E: /var/cache/apt/archives/samba_3.0.22-1ubuntu3.3_i386.deb: subprocess new pre-removal script returned error exit status 102
[09:54] <thugren> Hey does anyone know how to fix this problem?
[09:54] <un4get> meaning... ?
[09:54] <brunner> HOT: Thanks!
[09:54] <Nutubuntu> I have not worked "inside" grub before, anixhkr, so I am just reading and thinking a.t.m.
[09:55] <gnomefreak> un4get: than run it and dont change anything, use detect automaticly
[09:55] <recoy^> telexicon: only 1 is coming up for some reason.... i have the Os's on 2 separate drives
[09:55] <HOT> brunner: np
[09:55] <tinin> nibblesmx same problem here
[09:55] <recoy^> telexicon: Disk /dev/hda: 40.0 GB,<PHONE_NUMBER>0 bytes
[09:55] <recoy^> 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 4865 cylinders
[09:55] <recoy^> Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes
[09:55] <recoy^>    Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System
[09:55] <recoy^> /dev/hda1   *           1        4660    37431418+  83  Linux
[09:55] <recoy^> /dev/hda2            4661        4865     1646662+   5  Extended
[09:55] <recoy^> /dev/hda5            4661        4865     1646631   82  Linux swap / Solaris
[09:55] <un4get> gnomefreak: how do i do that??
[09:55] <telexicon> recoy^, please use pastebin
[09:55] <gnomefreak> un4get: try that ill be back in an hour or so
[09:55] <ShackJack> !pastebin | recoy^
[09:55] <ubotu> recoy^: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[09:55] <gnomefreak> un4get: run the command i gave you you will see what i mean
[09:55] <un4get> i did that already
[09:55] <gnomefreak> un4get: but you need to run it in the installed ubuntu partition
[09:55] <un4get> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[09:55] <telexicon> recoy^, is the other hard drive plugged in?
[09:56] <jwtodd> i can't seem to get access to the client/ui part of brightside?
[09:56] <un4get> offcourse
[09:56] <gnomefreak> un4get: than either you are doing it from livecd or its something else that is the issue
[09:56] <younghacker>  possible to import an XML document into a postgresql database that was created to hold the data in the XML document already?
[09:56] <un4get> nop im going that from "Root"
[09:56] <recoy^> telexicon: im going to check theconnections right now
[09:56] <jwtodd> and finding the brightside homepage/docs is turning up empty
[09:56] <HOT> local: im running out of ideas here, the mount point exists on the local device?
[09:56] <un4get> gnomefreak: doing that via Root
[09:56] <gnomefreak> un4get: but i have to go its important. un4get try setting the driver from gksudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg
[09:56] <gnomefreak> .conf
[09:56] <gnomefreak> its /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[09:56] <un4get> ok
[09:57] <tinin> Is there a gui to use with fstab and mtab?
[09:57] <un4get> X(ONE ONE or L L) ?
[09:57] <recoy^> telexicon: yes it is
[09:57] <gnomefreak> change driver to vesa and make sure yout busid is right
[09:57] <gnomefreak> Xoneone
[09:57] <gnomefreak> Xeleven
[09:58] <un4get> k
[09:58] <younghacker> is it possible to import an XML document into postgres as data in a database (already created)
[09:58] <telexicon> recoy^, what kind of drive is it?
[09:58] <telexicon> recoy^, i dont really know what to do to help you.. if you really must get back into windows, unplug the drive with linux on it
[09:58] <k31th> whats the equiv to ctrl-a for vim ? so  can select all text and copy it ?
[09:58] <anixhkr> ugh, gotta go work. bbl
[09:59] <recoy^> telexicon:  windows xp
[09:59] <Optimus55> hey how do you uninstall a package from the cli
[09:59] <Optimus55> hey how do you uninstall a package from the cli?
[09:59] <younghacker> apt-get remove
[09:59] <Optimus55> thanks
[09:59] <IndyGunFreak> Optimus55: sudo apt-get remove packagename
[09:59] <younghacker> =)
[09:59] <younghacker> use --purge to get rid of the configuration files as well
[10:00] <puppy-user-06som> li want to install the newest nvidia drivers, but i don't know how to quit X into a terminal
[10:00] <rolfen> puppy-user-06som: what?
[10:00] <IndyGunFreak> lol
[10:00] <puppy-user-06som> how do you quit X
[10:00] <TheNo1Yeti> In ubuntu, is there a color correction wizard at all to help with adjusting monitor gamma levels and such?
[10:00] <tarzeau> puppy-user-06som: ctrl-alt-backspace
[10:00] <younghacker>  apt-get --purge remove
[10:00] <rolfen> puppy-user-06som: what for?
[10:00] <recoy^> s
[10:00] <teethdood> is there a media center app that would list all movie files that I have in a nice ready to play fashion?
[10:00] <tarzeau> puppy-user-06som: if it restarts stop all display managers
[10:01] <puppy-user-06som> but X restarts after thhat
[10:01] <scoobtits> HEP85_ you still here?
[10:01] <puppy-user-06som> ok
[10:01] <rolfen> puppy-user-06som: no ctr-alt-backspace is restart
[10:01] <tarzeau> puppy-user-06som: so you got some display manager. stop that first
[10:01] <HOT> tarzeau: no that restarts the x server, he wants to stop it
[10:01] <HEP85> scoobtits: yes
[10:01] <recoy^> telexicon: i wouldnt have to if "wine" was for 64amd
[10:01] <tarzeau> rolfen: no it's not restart
[10:01] <jmchaffie> I installed and am using Xvid. woks great, but doesn't give me good framerates like I've seen on Youtube. Any suggestions? (yes, good card and system)
[10:01] <Nutubuntu> anixhkr,  be well - t/y again
[10:01] <tarzeau> rolfen: it's kill x session, something else starts it again
[10:01] <scoobtits> HEP85, whats the easiest way to launch steam after i close it?
[10:01] <cereal> teethdood:  I dont know of an app, but a starting point might be looking at what Linux MCE uses.  Google it and it'll show you a linux based media center edition.
[10:01] <tts> hi can you guys help me with a system that is stuck on "verifying dmi pool data"
[10:01] <tarzeau> HOT: no c-a-backpsace doesn't restart the x server
[10:01] <HEP85> recoy^: I am running wine on amd64
[10:01] <younghacker> does anyone know if it is possible to import an XML document into a postgreSQL database that was made to hold the data in the document
[10:01] <tarzeau> HOT: it really only kills it
[10:01] <IndyGunFreak> recoy^: why not just use 32bit ubuntu?
[10:01] <tarzeau> HOT: please read man xorg.conf
[10:02] <recoy^> HEP85: really how?
[10:02] <tts> its due to my ubuntu had drive
[10:02] <puppy-user-06som> whats the display manager?
[10:02] <HEP85> scoobtits: I think it would be the best to make a script
[10:02] <Nicke> recoy^: Wine even has a repository for 64bit ubuntu now..
[10:02] <rolfen> tarzeau: ok
[10:02] <scoobtits> HEP85, whats the normal way to open it? is there a command>
[10:02] <rolfen> do you need to kill x to install the nvidia driver?
[10:02] <puppy-user-06som> yes
[10:02] <HOT> ?tarzeau: sorry , are you saying if i hit ctrl+alt+backspace X wont restart
[10:02] <HOT> ?
[10:02] <jmchaffie> yep
[10:02] <HEP85> recoy^: they habe 64 bit packages since feisty: http://www.winehq.org/site/download-deb
[10:03] <tarzeau> HOT: exactly
[10:03] <recoy^> Nicke: in add/remove it says i cant add package wine
[10:03] <TheNo1Yeti> In ubuntu, is there a color correction wizard at all to help with adjusting monitor gamma levels and such?
[10:03] <tarzeau> HOT: it only kills x
[10:03] <Nicke> recoy^: http://winehq.org/site/download-deb
[10:03] <tarzeau> HOT: something else restarts it
[10:03] <HEP85> scoobtits: you have to give me the complete path to the Steam.exe
[10:03] <Nicke> recoy^: You have to add some addition repositories
[10:03] <tarzeau> HOT: you can read the whole detail at man xorg.conf
[10:03] <Nicke> recoy^: (they are not part of ubuntu)
[10:03] <HOT> tarzeau: i see...and how does that stop him being back in X?
[10:03] <Nicke> recoy^: additional*
[10:03] <tarzeau> HOT: he first needs to stop whatever restarts his x session
[10:03] <recoy^> Nicke: doesnt anyone mind to walk me through it since im new?
[10:03] <tarzeau> HOT: probably gdm, i don't know
[10:03] <scoobtits> HEP85, never mind i think i got this one under control
[10:03] <jwtodd> does anyone know how to configure brightside?
[10:04] <younghacker> is there a postgres channel?
[10:04] <tarzeau> HOT: some people start it with inittab, others with gdm/wdm. i use startx
[10:04] <Nicke> recoy^: The page I posted listes the command you need to run
[10:04] <HOT> tarzeau: i know, and he was told ctrl+alt+backspace, and that will restart X
[10:04] <recoy^> Nicke: alright ill give it a shot
[10:04] <tarzeau> HOT: no ctrl-alt-backspace will only kill x
[10:04] <recoy^> ty everyone
[10:04] <tarzeau> HOT: it will not restart x
[10:04] <tarzeau> HOT: what you say is technically wrong
[10:04] <jmchaffie> recoy^: the page gives you step-by-step instructions.. simple
[10:04] <rolfen> tarzeau: well the end result will be that x will restart
[10:04] <Nicke> recoy^: Good luck.. it has worked for me atleast :) Ask here again if it doesn't work
[10:04] <HEP85> recoy^: you're welcome
[10:05] <tarzeau> rolfen: only if he uses a displaymanager
[10:05] <jmchaffie> recoy^: It's how I learned not too long ago actually :)
[10:05] <tarzeau> rolfen: do we know how he configured his system?
[10:05] <HOT> tarzeau: i think your missing the point, technically wrong or not, it doesnt give the bloke what he wants, do you see that?
[10:05] <rolfen> tarzeau: i'm assuming he's using the distro out of the box
[10:05] <tarzeau> HOT: well if you read further what i said it gives the bloke what he wants
[10:05] <puppy-user-06som> i'm using the preconfigured ubuntu feisty
[10:05] <recoy^> be right back
[10:05] <xevil> puppy-user-06som: kill gdm...
[10:06] <tarzeau> rolfen: assumptions like that often lead to disasters, but i was just saying the zap option really only kills x
[10:07] <rolfen> tarzeau: anyways...  :)
[10:07] <HOT> tarzeau: anyway i was hoping to lead him to  sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop and explain how to ctrl+alt+fX to switch consoles, hes gone now anyway
[10:07] <rolfen> he probably killed x
[10:08] <miramax> Zorglub
[10:08] <skrypt>  i'm running dual heads with TwinView and am trying to get the panels to center in the middle of each screen... Anyone think they can help?
[10:08] <nickkkkkname> after killing gdm, there was no terminal
[10:08] <nickkkkkname> i'm pup-user-something
[10:09] <HOT> nickkkkkname: ctrl + alt + f8, will get you to a tty
[10:09] <HOT> was trying to catch you before you went
[10:09] <TheNo1Yeti> Hot: How do you get back from the tty though.  It always tells me there is no recover image or some such
[10:10] <HOT> actually ctrl + alt + f5
[10:10] <nickkkkkname> i think i tried ctrl+alt+F5
[10:10] <nickkkkkname> F8
[10:10] <CerebroJD> if I'm using WPA2 encryption, does wpa_passphrase still generate the correct PSK?
[10:10] <nickkkkkname> all the alt keys maybe
[10:11] <sniper89> hey there :]  I've got a question on init.d scripts
[10:12] <sniper89> I've made a script that should start a Counter-Strike (HLDS) server on system startup and it does, but it doesn't start anything else
[10:12] <sniper89> this is the script:
[10:12] <sniper89> #!/bin/bash
[10:12] <sniper89> su - cs -c "./hlds_run -game cstrike +maxplayers 10 +map de_rats_2001 +rcon_password \"onodadoeo\""
[10:12] <nickkkkkname> ok it worked
[10:12] <sniper89> cs is the user that has the server in his home dir
[10:12] <HOT> nickkkkkname: yup
[10:12] <HEP85> sniper89: append " &"
[10:12] <sniper89> hmm :>
[10:12] <banlieue> is there a way to enlarge the icons/items in the ubuntu main menu?
[10:13] <mysticalone> I'm having problems installing Mesa 7 on Feisty, $glxinfo | grep version shows 6.5.2
[10:13] <idiot> sniper89?: use screen
[10:13] <sniper89> I did
[10:13] <sniper89> and it didn't work
[10:13] <sniper89> I even did screen -dmS hlds THECOMMANDTHATIVEPASTEDHERE to daemonize it
[10:13] <sniper89> and it still didn't do it!
[10:13] <sniper89> I even had to start samba, sshd and no-ip daemon manually
[10:14] <sniper89> and since I'm administrating the machine REMOTELY it's a pain, you can imagine :)
[10:14] <pal_> how do I detect on the places window a MacBook nearby using wireless network?
[10:14] <shack> Hi guys, can someone help with basic question about IRSSI.
[10:14] <mysticalone> Anyone touched Mesa 7?
[10:14] <sniper89> I can, shack
[10:14] <sniper89> what is it?
[10:14] <shack> I have alignet all my text lines to same point, but if someone write more that one line the other line starts under nicks
[10:15] <shack> I would like it to start at the same point like the first line
[10:15] <nickkkkkname> it says that i need libc header files
[10:15] <nickkkkkname> i mean, the Nvidia installer
[10:15] <sniper89> oh, I can't really help you with that
[10:15] <sniper89> don't know whether it's possible, sorry
[10:15] <shack> shame on you ;)
[10:15] <sniper89> maybe with Perl scripts?
[10:15] <sniper89> yeah :(
[10:15] <saschahl> what exactly is the difference between the gnome session and the gnome failsafe session? the failsafe works, the normal "hangs".
[10:15] <outer> Hi everyone.
[10:15] <shack> http://irccrew.org/%7Ecras/format.txt
[10:15] <shack> I'm using that format "script" and it's working fine
[10:15] <sniper89> saschahl: failsafe doesn't run all the services, it's like that mode in Windows
[10:16] <outer> I've been playing around with Ubuntu as I am a fairly new user to it.
[10:16] <sniper89> so guys, anybody?
[10:16] <outer> I think I've messed with it too much though.
[10:16] <shack> But like I said more than one line and the other line is at the "wrong" place
[10:16] <HOT> nickkkkkname: if you are very knew to this (and im sure this is going to get me bood at) why not just use automatix and save some hair
[10:16] <TheNo1Yeti> Anyone know of a good dyndns update script thingstuff for ubuntu
[10:16] <saschahl> sniper89: But I want to fix it. Where to I find what exactly it does not start?
[10:16] <IndyGunFreak> !automatix | HOT
[10:16] <ubotu> HOT: Automatix2 is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[10:16] <outer> For example, when I'm using Beryl now I can't rotate the cube with the multiple desktop panel
[10:16] <skollie> TheNo1Yeti: ddclient
[10:16] <HOT> see told you :)
[10:16] <TheNo1Yeti> skollie: ty
[10:16] <dougsko> sniper89: so youre saying the script runs fine, but it stops there and doesnt execute any of your other init.d scripts?
[10:17] <sniper89> also the system didn't want to reboot with that counter-strike server being set up so I just added the symlinks to rc2-3-4-5.d
[10:17] <sniper89> dougsko: extacly
[10:17] <HOT> well despite what ubotu has to say, its a way to get the nvidia drivers working if your new to this
[10:17] <un4get> lemme ask you, i dont know why but (alt shift) for changing language isnt workin, anyone knows why?
[10:17] <nickkkkkname> eh, does it install it from the ubuntu repository?
[10:17] <rolfen> when i switch to tty using ctrl-alt-F1, and then try to switch back to x using ctrl-alt-F7, the screen will become blue and flicker, and i will not be able to use x until i restart the pc. I tryed restarting gdm but it didnt help.
[10:17] <Savenger> can i tell a program to use a different sampling rate for audio than default?
[10:17] <IndyGunFreak> HOT: why not just follow the instructions, and install them properly?
[10:17] <dougsko> sniper89: add a & on the end of the command like HEP85 said
[10:17] <outer> I was wondering if there was a way I could return software to it's default state on ubuntu.
[10:17] <sniper89> what will that do?
[10:17] <un4get> lemme ask you, i dont know why but (alt shift) for changing language isnt workin, anyone knows why?
[10:17] <rolfen> rolfen: any ideas?
[10:17] <HOT> IndyGunFreak: they instructions tell him, he needs libc headers
[10:18] <IndyGunFreak> HOT: ok, so install them.
[10:18] <nickkkkkname> is that in the ubuntu rep?
[10:18] <rolfen> sniper89: is failsafe actually a runlevel?
[10:18] <dougsko> sniper89: it makes the process go the background so the othr stuff can continue executing
[10:18] <HOT> IndyGunFreak: ok you talk him through it :)
[10:18] <sniper89> rolfen: no
[10:18] <IndyGunFreak> !nvidia | nickkkkkname
[10:18] <ubotu> nickkkkkname: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[10:18] <HEP85> outer: I know the option to get the cube rotating again
[10:18] <xero> so... how do you run a command from a shell as root... then hide the shell but do all of this from a shortcut on the desktop?
[10:18] <sniper89> dougsko: OH, I get you
[10:18] <nickkkkkname> thanks
[10:18] <outer> What is it HEP85?
[10:19] <sniper89> OK will try that, will respond once I did that
[10:19] <outer> (thank you)
[10:19] <IndyGunFreak> HOT: wasn't saying i was gonna help him with it, i'm just not gonna give him bad/dangerous info either.
[10:19] <IndyGunFreak> if you don't know, say you don't know, don't just pull somethin out of your backside.
[10:19] <dougsko> xero: use gksudo <command>
[10:19] <HEP85> outer: under general options: number of desktops = 1. horizontal size = 4
[10:19] <xero> ok
[10:19] <xero> thanks
[10:19] <dougsko> xero: thatll bring up a GUI password box, let you put in the root pass, then do the command
[10:19] <HOT> IndyGunFreak: from a distro that abuses su so much i think "dangerous" is relative :)
[10:20] <outer> I already did that HEP85?
[10:20] <rolfen> xero you still will have to input a password :)
[10:20] <IndyGunFreak> HOT: whatever, why are you here then?
[10:20] <m13> hi guys, i instaled ubuntu 7.04 today and somthing gone wrong in update&upgrade process, anz one have clue how to fix this > http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/30036/
[10:20] <xero> thats finer
[10:20] <nickkkkkname> the drivers in there are kinda old
[10:20] <HEP85> outer: if it still does not work you can delete the beryl settings with "rm ~/.beryl/settings"
[10:20] <xero> *fine
[10:20] <nickkkkkname> anyway, i'll just try to find the libc headers
[10:20] <HOT> IndyGunFreak: to help if i can, to put something back to the community
[10:20] <HOT> IndyGunFreak: you?
[10:20] <jwtodd> ahha ... % brightside-properties
[10:21] <HEP85> outer: then restart beryl and the default settings are rebuilt
[10:21] <IndyGunFreak> HOT: not to recommend dangerous and stupid ideas.
[10:21] <gord> HOT and IndyGunFreak, not really a conversation for in here :)
[10:21] <IndyGunFreak> gord: it doesn't concern you
[10:21] <michal_> hi
[10:21] <jmchaffie> Anyone else have issues with XvidCap not getting smooth captures? Did you find a way to solve it and how?
[10:22] <michal_> wow I don't speak english
[10:22] <gord> no IndyGunFreak, one of the reasons why its not a coversation for in here
[10:22] <HOT> IndyGunFreak: i think the idea of open source is one of freedom and in price but more importantly as in thought, i have an opinion, you have yours, neither are stupid
[10:22] <IndyGunFreak> gord: do you know how to use ignore?...
[10:22] <mon^rch> what do I install to get JUST KDE... not kubuntu?
[10:22] <outer> That you very much HEP85, it totally worked.
[10:22] <IndyGunFreak> HOT: i can agree with that, but that doesn't justify giving bad info.., and thats really where i'm gonna leave it.
[10:23] <gord> offtopic conversations should be taken to offtopic IndyGunFreak, not left to dangle in a support channel
[10:23] <HEP85> outer: you're welcome
[10:23] <IndyGunFreak> gord: really?... geez, get off your high horse
[10:23] <skollie> michal_: what language do you speak?
[10:23] <m13> hi guys, i instaled ubuntu 7.04 today and somthing gone wrong in update&upgrade process, anz one have clue how to fix this > http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/30036/
[10:23] <HOT> IndyGunFreak: great, i will agree to agree you have an opinion, but it doesnt make it right, so we are done.
[10:23] <user_> Ubuntu as a company broke me today....
[10:24] <m13> hot , indygunfreak , hi guys, i instaled ubuntu 7.04 today and somthing gone wrong in update&upgrade process, anz one have clue how to fix this > http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/30036/ , rather help out :)
[10:24] <jmchaffie> user_: What? how?
[10:24] <HOT> m13: im reading your paste now
[10:24] <m13> ty m8
[10:24] <m13> i never had this problem
[10:24] <m13> till today
[10:25] <IndyGunFreak> m13: ther ewere a lot of problems with the open office upgrade the other day, several were having problems with it, i eventually got it installed, but it took like 2hrs
[10:25] <sniper89> holy shizcakes! it's working!
[10:25] <mon^rch> what do I install to get JUST KDE... not kubuntu?
[10:25] <m13> what u recomend guys , this is fresh install ?
[10:25] <sniper89> thanks!
[10:26] <sniper89> sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[10:26] <IndyGunFreak> sniper89: what is
[10:26] <HEP85> m13: does synaptic show broken packages?
[10:26] <Enselic_> mon^rch: kubuntu-desktop
[10:26] <Flannel> mon^rch: there's a kde package in universe
[10:26] <IndyGunFreak> m13: no... thats probably not necessary
[10:26] <m13> i didnt touch synaptic
[10:26] <sniper89> so, if a script is on runlevel 0 or 6, can't really remember, it's executed as-is on reboot/halt, right?
[10:26] <sniper89> or maybe rc1.d
[10:26] <sniper89> doesn't matter
[10:26] <m13> and this is 1h fresh installation and already got broken packages :(
[10:26] <mon^rch> Flannel: thanks for pointing me in the right direction.... can you tell me which package?
[10:27] <HEP85> m13: when I had a similar problem I removed all broken packages with synaptic, then did the upgrade and afterwards reinstalled them
[10:27] <nickkkkkname> ok, i'm installing libc6-dev
[10:27] <m13> rgr hep85 i go try
[10:27] <user_> jmchaffie: I order form Ubuntu CD's with ubuntu and...when I plugin it to my laptop...
[10:27] <nickkkkkname> and linux-libc-dev
[10:27] <Flannel> mon^rch: 'kde'
[10:27] <user_> jmchaffie: there was so may errors that I can't install it xD
[10:27] <bolt> I'm having a problem with proftpd on ubuntu 7.04. I put ServerIdent on "hey there" in the config file, but it doesn't change anything. The server still greets me as before. How come? Every other option I've put in there takes effect.
[10:27] <mon^rch> Flannel: lol
[10:27] <NixMan> http://www.press.redhat.com/2007/05/09/liberation-fonts/ I downloaded the tar.gz, extracted it, but where do I put it for the fonts to work? I cp it to /usr/share/fonts, but that didn't work (the cp did, but the fonts didn't install)
[10:28] <mon^rch> Flannel: lol ty
[10:28] <sniper89> well anyway, if I put my script at runlevels 0 to 6 system executes what's in it when the system is rebooted/starts/halts, correct?
[10:28] <outer> Ok, my second question. I've messed with wine a lot and when I unintalled it I noticed it left a lot behind, how can I remove the wine directory to get a fresh start?
[10:28] <m13> hep85 , broken packages 0
[10:28] <arsalan> my firefox automatically shutdown while I am browsing. Any clue?
[10:28] <IndyGunFreak> what about completely uninstalling open office, and reinstalling from source?
[10:28] <jmchaffie> user_: If I understand you, you put in the CD and when it tried to boot up it wouldn't finish loading because of too many errors then?
[10:28] <LeChacal> ok i have tried to figure this out myself but i am left with confusion. I have installed Ubuntu several times using different methods (text manufacture mode, graphical, normal text) and only under the one that i load with text manufacture mode i get an ubuntu splash screen (the screen that says ubuntu and has the load bar showing start-up progress) for the rest the screen is black until the log in screen comes up. this black screen is
[10:28] <dougsko> sniper89: dont manually put it at any runlevel, use update-rc.d
[10:28] <Flannel> outer: wine is all (well, all the config and programs and stuff) in your homedir.  Just removing ~/.wine will remove all stuff you've done to it, and give you a fresh start
[10:29] <sniper89> dougsko: I do so, but with update-rc.d cs defaults it puts it in all runlevels
[10:29] <m13> indygunfreak , but i have also some font error, should i remove all fonts too then ?
[10:29] <HEP85> m13: you could also try the -f option for apt-get
[10:29] <sniper89> dougsko: so it actually STARTS the CS server when the system reboots/halts, right?
[10:29] <Shafto> LeChacal, does the login screen showup?
[10:29] <m13> hep85 will try , sec
[10:29] <LeChacal> Shafto: yes
[10:29] <Borbus> Does anyone know if it's possibile to use beryl on a ati x1800?
[10:29] <capo> hey, can anyone help me install beryl or compiz with my ATI Radeon x1950 Pro?
[10:29] <user_> jmchaffie: yea fucking lost words
[10:29] <IndyGunFreak> m13: if it were me, I'd completely uninstall open office, then download the source from openoffice.org, and compile it.., but thats me, YMMV, and i'm sure several here will disagree.
[10:29] <dougsko> sniper89: itll start it on startup, and stop it on halt. theres no need to make it any more complicated
[10:29] <IndyGunFreak> !language | user_
[10:29] <ubotu> user_: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[10:30] <Shafto> LeChacal, Are you using VESA driver?
[10:30] <IndyGunFreak> !beryl | Borbus
[10:30] <ubotu> Borbus: beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. Help in #ubuntu-effects
[10:30] <sniper89> dougsko: so even if the script doesn't have any "halt it if the system is halted and the script is in runlevels 0 1 6" instructions it will still halt it?
[10:30] <HEP85> m13: ttf-opensymbol seems to be the problem
[10:30] <LeChacal> umm i am new i dont know what that is exactly is that some kind of video driver
[10:30] <m13> hep85 , seems -f fixing
[10:30] <dougsko> sniper89: yep, thats the magic of init.d :)
[10:30] <jmchaffie> user_: well, no need to use profanity in here... family channel so to speak... but not all proprietary hardware like laptops will be compatible... even with a system like Ubuntu.
[10:30] <Shafto> Borbus, capo compiz-fusion is the way :) and it should run on them both yes
[10:30] <user_> IndyGunFreak: sorry....but I'm so angry
[10:31] <Shafto> LeChacal, Are you on your ubuntu box now?
[10:31] <IndyGunFreak> user_: your point?.. i get pretty mad at times, i generally don't come in here flying off with F this, F that
[10:31] <sniper89> dougsko: awesome, I thought the scripts are halted because of case "$1" and the "stop" instruction block!
[10:31] <m13> hep85 -f done the job
[10:31] <m13> tnx m8 :)
[10:31] <m13> tnx all
[10:31] <dougsko> sniper89: well, thats just so you can manually stop/start a daemon through the same script
[10:31] <HEP85> m13: great
[10:31] <LeChacal> Shafto:yes
[10:31] <sniper89> dougsko: so if I'd remove the init.d script from runlevels 0 1 and 6 it would NOT halt it when the system will be rebooted, right?
[10:31] <m13> yes :)
[10:31] <IndyGunFreak> m13: i wonder if all those fonts are missing from your install now.
[10:31] <sniper89> dougsko: yeah, I guess :)
[10:31] <kbrooks_> user_: there is no warranty that ubuntu will be actually functional at all.
[10:32] <nickkkkkname> ok, it worked, as far as compiling
[10:32] <Shafto> LeChacal, I just know i have the same problem on my laptop, it takes a while to get the login screen because I use the VESA driver
[10:32] <rolfen> "Totem cannot play this type of media (DVD) because you do not have the appropriate plugins to handle it." any idea? i just played that same dvd this earlyer this afternoon... and now suddently that doesnt work!
[10:32] <user_> IndyGunFreak: ok again sorry. I don't do this mistake again ok?
[10:32] <m13> i will update-upgrade again indygunfreak
[10:32] <jmchaffie> user_: I had the same problem w/ Vista on my brothers brand spankin new HP laptop... it didn't like half of his hardware and wouldn't install. On the other hand... Ubuntu went in flawlessly, so you just never know. Sorry man.
[10:32] <kbrooks_> user_: therefore, you cannot sue for redress.
[10:32] <nonyo> hey does anyone know how to get java to work
[10:32] <IndyGunFreak> m13: probably will fix it i imagine.
[10:32] <Borbus> Shafto: is compiz fusion the other fork?
[10:32] <sniper89> nonyo: one sec
[10:32] <Shafto> Borbus, They have merged to compiz-fusion
[10:32] <LeChacal> Shafto, is VESA driver a video driver then
[10:32] <sniper89> nonyo: try sudo apt-get install jre[press TAB here twice]
[10:32] <Borbus> Oh
[10:32] <IndyGunFreak> nickkkkkname: did you get the driver installed?
[10:32] <Shafto> LeChacal, Yeah, what card you got?
[10:33] <Shafto> Borbus, Still #ubuntu-effects :)
[10:33] <dougsko> sniper89: to be honest, im not totally up on my runlevels. but why would you disable it on 0, 1, and 6? if it runs on 0, btw, the one on 1 doesnt really do anything
[10:33] <Borbus> Shafto: yeah.. I'm there
[10:33] <IndyGunFreak> they aren't a very chatty bunch
[10:33] <sniper89> dougsko: I just dunno which one is "reboot", 6 I believe
[10:33] <m13> all fixed , hep85 , indygunfreak tnx
[10:33] <user_> jmchaffie: but Now I have ubuntu on my laptop.... version 7.05 but I must download.
[10:33] <Shafto> Borbus, Or you can try #compiz-fusion
[10:33] <sniper89> dougsko: but still, if I'd to that it would just reboot the system on "sudo reboot" without halting the script gently, correct?
[10:34] <surviver> oke my question: i found this i eyecandy : compiz/xgl, now i just want one thing (and this is that i can set a page on to to screen split in 2) what do i need for that? compiz or glx? i dont want the animated windows etc
[10:34] <dougsko> sniper89: right, it would just kill the process ungracefuly
[10:34] <HEP85> m13: you're welcome
[10:34] <dougsko> sniper89: also, as a tip, check out /etc/init.d/skeleton. that file is meant to be used as a template for init.d scripts
[10:34] <mon^rch> in synaptic it says all my packages are "not authenticated", does that mean I have to re-import my gpg keys? (or whatever)
[10:34] <sniper89> dougsko: how does the script determine how to kill it anyway? I mean, what parameter does the script get to be killed? it's it just err... "killall" or something
[10:35] <sniper89> *isn't
[10:35] <jmchaffie> user_: Ok, so it doesn't recognize your ethernet card then? is that the problem? Or does it just not boot? I'm having trouble understanding your problem.
[10:35] <LeChacal> Shafto: i have been trying to figure that out. i am using mismatch built desktop pc the mother board has integrated graphics and i think it came out of a Gateway (yes i know that Gateways aren't great but it was free and for play pc it works fine) is there a way to find out exactly what video card is on the board with out know the model of the pc the board came out of
[10:36] <Shafto> LeChacal, Thanks for the essay <3
[10:36] <surviver> oke my question: what function do i need for taking this effect? http://gormful.com/images/2006/12/xgl-teh-pwn3.jpg   i dont want the animated windows just the split??
[10:36] <dougsko> sniper89: im not totally sure, but i think it runs the init.d script with 'stop' as the argument. if that doesnt exist, it probly just sends a TERM signal
[10:36] <LeChacal> shafto: lol sorry
[10:36] <mon^rch> in synaptic it says all my packages are "not authenticated", does that mean I have to re-import my gpg keys? (or whatever)
[10:37] <Shafto> LeChacal, You can find out graphically using the hardware information usually, its in either preferebnces/administration
[10:37] <sniper89> dougsko: kewl, many guides however tell to do sysv-rc-conf and turn an action on for runlevels 2 3 4 and 5 for custom scripts...
[10:37] <HEP85> surviver: the "Desktop effects" in feisty should do the trick
[10:37] <surviver> hep85, oke
[10:37] <sniper89> dougsko: or some other tool to do so, the runlevels are my point
[10:38] <LeChacal> shafto: yea i have looked through there and couldnt find but ill look again, thanks
[10:38] <user_> jmchaffie: my problem is that I can't boot ubuntu from CD. I want do that because my present ubuntu is broke I think
[10:38] <dougsko> sniper89: yeah i mean, like with anything, you can get more complicated with it, but for most stuff, its not really necessary
[10:38] <skollie> user_: can you boot from another CD?
[10:38] <user_> jmchaffie: this
[10:39] <jmchaffie> user_: yeah...what skollie said... can you boot from any other CD's?
[10:39] <user_> skollie: I have 3 CD's....3 are broke
[10:39] <IndyGunFreak> hmm, that sounds like a drive issue.
[10:39] <sniper89> dougsko: OK then, long live update-rc.d defaults!
[10:39] <IndyGunFreak> unless you know all 3 disks are bad
[10:39] <sniper89> dougsko: thanks :)
[10:39] <dougsko> sniper89: np
[10:39] <jmchaffie> user_: Get into BIOS and make sure it is the FIRST boot device and try it again
[10:39] <x__> hello everybody :-)
[10:39] <HEP85> surviver: just don't select wobbly windows
[10:39] <Shafto> I doubt many of the CDs that are order are bad :)
[10:39] <sniper89> dougsko: I just like to know how things work you see, not only make them work
[10:40] <IndyGunFreak> i dont' know why anyone orders the CDs, unless they dont' hae High SPeed.
[10:41] <user_> jmchaffie: when live CD is starting...then shows many error
[10:41] <dougsko> sniper89: i definitely know what you mean, and runlevels and stuff are important to understand, but when it just comes down to making somehting work, like you said, "long live the defaults" :)
[10:41] <x__> i need some information ........... what size is ubuntu ????  is that 1 CD or 1 DVD ????
[10:41] <skollie> user_: so the live CD boots but then you get errors?
[10:41] <IndyGunFreak> x__: 1 cd
[10:41] <ChrisF_> greetings.  How do I change the font color of my dock?  I want the Applications, Places and System to all be white font
[10:41] <x__> thanks
[10:42] <IndyGunFreak> x__: i thinkt he standard download is around 675mb
[10:42] <jmchaffie> user_: Ok, what kind of errors? are you sure the CD is booting? Or is it skipping on to the hard drive?
[10:42] <user_> skollie: before ubuntu start
[10:42] <rami> ubuntu has been starting a HTTP-cache remover since a drivecleaner ad popped up, should i be worried?
[10:42] <x__> INDY..................... i got 1 DVD Kubuntu ... is that right about size on Kubuntu ????
[10:42] <user_> jmchaffie: like " [200,100] ....... someting"
[10:43] <IndyGunFreak> x__: well, you can download the DVD if you want(i think only kubuntu has one), but the CD should do just fine.
[10:43] <rolfen> "Could not apply changes!Fix broken packages first." in synaptic. what does it mean and how do i resolve it?
[10:44] <IndyGunFreak> x__: where did you get this DVD?
[10:44] <jmchaffie> user_: well... that doesn't help me much... perhaps someone else could glean more from that small amount of info...
[10:44] <skollie> rolfen: in synaptic - 'edit' 'fix broken packages'
[10:44] <rolfen> skollie: ok thanks :)
[10:44] <skollie> rolfen: np
[10:44] <user_> jmchaffie: ok then I will try edubuntu
[10:45] <rami> ?
[10:45] <LeChacal> IndyGunFreak: that it matters but for your info there is a DVD for Ubuntu but i have yet to figure out the different between it and the CD, that you got from torrent and i got the torrent file form the Ubuntu site
[10:45] <skollie> user_: not sure its the actual CD's that's the problem. Sounds like drive errors
[10:45] <jmchaffie> user_: Doesn't hurt to try a different bootable CD to be double sure it's not a hardware issue first.
[10:45] <x__> INDY .... i got some gift from friends
[10:45] <IndyGunFreak> LeChacal: really?.. only one i've saw, is the ubuntu ultimate, which i think is a DVD.., but i've never saw a ubuntu dvd....
[10:45] <user_> jmchaffie: bye then
[10:45] <jmchaffie> ok
[10:46] <user_> jmchaffie: or wait
[10:46] <ChrisF_> gpg keyserver subkeys.pgp.net recv-keys 81836EBFgpg export armor 81836EBF | sudo apt-key add -
[10:46] <Sonicadvance1> I seem to have broken Alsa in some way that I don't know how to fix. No audio comes from my speakers
[10:46] <user_> jmchaffie:  may you can help me with acctuall
[10:46] <jmchaffie> user_: with what?
[10:46] <simplyw00x> is there any form of handwriting recognition for tablet pcs that works on linux?
[10:46] <LeChacal> IndyGunFreak: if you google Ubuntu torrent you come up with this page on the Ubunut site with all the torrent files to dl , some where on this page http://torrent.ubuntu.com:6969/
[10:47] <ChrisF_> greetings.  How do I change the font color of my dock?    THanks bur[n] er
[10:48] <TheNo1Yeti> Anyone know what the default firewall program ubuntu uses is?
[10:48] <LeChacal> IndyGunFreak i dont think that it is well publicized because google is the only way i could find it
[10:48] <IndyGunFreak> LeChacal: if i had to guess, i'd say its got a crapload of packages on disk, so if you have a slow connection, you can pretty much use synaptic to install off the disk, instead of spending days downloading.
[10:48] <ariks> xrandr "Segmentation fault (core dumped)". Where was the core dumped to?
[10:48] <simplyw00x> TheNo1Yeti: Iptables. You configure it with firestarter
[10:48] <x__> INDY... <-----------------------> can u tell me how we can install RealPlayer on Ubuntu ??? i need it for some Radio Stations
[10:48] <simplyw00x> ChrisF_: You can configure it individually with .gtkrc-2.0
[10:48] <TheNo1Yeti> simply: thanks.  I am guessing firestarter is available in the universe packages?
[10:48] <jmchaffie> user_: if your clock is resetting... it sounds to mee like you may be having some hardware glitches possibly. Also if you are able to look at your resolve.conf ... hold on.. .brb
[10:49] <LeChacal> IndyGunFreak: then i must have pick the wrong packages to install because it still wanted the internet the one time i tried that
[10:49] <IndyGunFreak> !realplayer | x__
[10:49] <Gargoyle> does anyone know if there is a channel for gutsy?
[10:49] <ubotu> x__: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[10:49] <IndyGunFreak> !gutsy | Gargoyle
[10:49] <ubotu> Gargoyle: Gutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10). See https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel-announce/2007-April/000276.html and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GutsyReleaseSchedule - Roadmap and specifications: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/gutsy - Support in #ubuntu+1
[10:49] <simplyw00x> TheNo1Yeti: I believe so, yes
[10:49] <Gargoyle> thx IndyGunFreak
[10:49] <TheNo1Yeti> simply: yea, I found it 4 seconds after I asked.  THanks
[10:50] <IndyGunFreak> np
[10:50] <scorp123> hi all ...
[10:50] <simplyw00x> scorp123: hi
[10:51] <x__> INDY...<---------> yeah i need it for radio stations
[10:51] <zlihome> Hello. Can anyone with Edgy tell me if they can cycle through resolutions with ctrl+alt++ (+ on numpad)?
[10:51] <x__> UBUNTU<---------> thanks
[10:51] <rolfen> whenever i try press the eject button on my USB DVD-R i get this popup message http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/30040/
[10:51] <IndyGunFreak> lol
[10:51] <ysth> anybody know if a gutsy tribe 3 is coming in the next week or so?
[10:52] <astro76> ysth, in 3 or 4 days
[10:52] <rolfen> zlihome: i cant
[10:52] <rolfen> zlihome: oh wait i can with the numpad
[10:52] <ysth> astro76: thanks
[10:52] <gnomefreak> ysth: join #ubuntu+1 and read topic
[10:52] <zlihome> rolfen: Do you know if you used a fresh install or upgrade?
[10:52] <rolfen> zlihome: but the results arent great
[10:52] <rolfen> zlihome: fresh install
[10:52] <capo> hey, i cant save my sources.list.  it says i dont have permission.  im logged in as admin, so why cant i save it with gedit?
[10:53] <TheNo1Yeti> Am I safe to assume then that by default iptables is set to accept everything and block nothing?
[10:53] <zlihome> rolfen: I just "upgrade-manage" upgraded to Edgy and can't seem to get it to work anymore.
[10:53] <skollie> capo: you have to use sudo to edit and save it
[10:53] <gregorygreg> what's up guys
[10:53] <gregorygreg> where can I get some cool llooking desklets?
[10:53] <gregorygreg> for GDESKLETS
[10:54] <capo> skollie: so what would that command be?  im still new to the terminal
[10:54] <skollie> capo: sudo gedit ...
[10:54] <zlihome> rolfen: Can you tell me what the Screen section of your "/etc/X11/xorg.conf" says?
[10:54] <rolfen> zlihome: okay hold on
[10:55] <x__> thanks
[10:55] <x__> anyone using REAL PLAYER on UBUNTU ?????
[10:55] <Flannel> !caps | x__
[10:55] <ubotu> x__: PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[10:55] <capo> skollie: thanks ;)
[10:55] <gregorygreg> hey guys
[10:56] <gregorygreg> repeat
[10:56] <gregorygreg> gdesklets vs adesklets?
[10:56] <TheNo1Yeti> RDP only works to connect to other windows machines right?  So if I want to be able to connect to a remote linux x11 session I would need a vnc viewer yes?
[10:56] <x__> UBUNTU ..... sorry i using laptop ... sorry
[10:56] <cBau> I avoid Real Player on any OS
[10:56] <user_> hi  gregorygreg
[10:56] <skollie> capo: np
[10:56] <gregorygreg> sup user
[10:56] <hak5fa1> skollie: isn't gedit a gui program in that case the comand gksudo gedit
[10:56] <rolfen> zlihome: here you go: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/30041/
[10:57] <cBau> too bloated and crappy
[10:57] <cBau> just my opinion
[10:57] <eboyjr> Can Desktop Effects be enabled from the Live CD?
[10:57] <gnomefreak> eboyjr: no
[10:57] <skollie> hak5fa1: yes, but it seems sudo works just as well... capo seems happy
[10:57] <nj786> i havnt gotten a system update notification i na while is there a way i can get an update?
[10:57] <eboyjr> gnomefreak, ok
[10:57] <capo> i am indeed
[10:57] <nibblesmx> does anyone know why my Quit Dialog doesn't show shutdown nor restart??
[10:57] <capo> sudo worked great
[10:58] <hak5fa1> skollie: I was told that using sudo gui app will muck up some permission file
[10:58] <x__> what sudo stand for ??
[10:58] <hak5fa1> super user do
[10:58] <x__> thanks
[10:58] <rolfen> x__: super user do
[10:58] <zlihome> rolfen: Thanks
[10:58] <rolfen> :)
[10:58] <cBau> nj786: You can always go to System~~>Administration~~~>Update Manager
[10:58] <gregorygreg> yo does anyone wanna talk about desklets or nah
[10:58] <cBau> to check
[10:58] <skollie> hak5fa1: yes, it could, but in this case, sudo was just used to open gedit
[10:59] <cBau> nj786: Otherwise, you can... sudo apt-get update in terminal
[10:59] <nj786> cBau: no not that the actual UPDATE like that orange looking icon that pops up once in a while
[10:59] <hak5fa1> yep.... just wanted to say it because best practise is important
[10:59] <x__> i'm new in linux ... just tried 6 hours .... that's verry better and cool than windows :-)
[11:00] <hak5fa1> x__:  I see
[11:00] <hak5fa1> yes linux is nice
[11:00] <cBau> nj786: Right, so you want the orange icon to show, or are you concerned that you are not updated? I may be confused.
[11:00] <skollie> hak5fa1: for sure
[11:00] <gordonjcp> nj786: if there aren't any updates, the icon won't show
[11:00] <nj786> cBau: yes i want that orange icon to appear and get an update but the thing is i havnt seen it for like 3-4 months
[11:01] <jmchaffie> user_: have you checked to see if your laptop is losing time in CMOS or in BIOS?
[11:01] <conorkirkpatrick> How do you reconfigure X after installing nvidia-glx-new?
[11:01] <cBau> nj786: Odd, but have you used the Update Manager and checked?
[11:01] <nj786> yes
[11:01] <zlihome> <conorkirkpatrick: You mean "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"?
[11:01] <nj786> it works
[11:01] <nj786> i got updates from that
[11:01] <scotty> hey guys i was launching a game and it froze, whats the best way to get to the desktop
[11:02] <scotty> kinda liek the cntrl alt del on windows, what do i do for ubuntu
[11:02] <cBau> nj786: I don't know then...
[11:02] <astro76> scott, try alt+tab first
[11:02] <scotty> i did
[11:02] <astro76> sorry, scotty
[11:03] <astro76> you could go to a console ctrl+alt+f1, and try and kill the game
[11:03] <ditoa> hey all
[11:03] <scotty> hmmm console wont even open
[11:03] <n2diy> scotty: switch to another desktop?
[11:03] <zlihome> Hello. Anyone know why I can't cycle though resolutions (after upgrading from Dapper to Edgy) using ctrl+alt++ or ctrl+alt+-? My xorg.conf is posted at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/30042/
[11:03] <nibblesmx> does anyone know why my Quit Dialog doesn't show shutdown nor restart??
[11:03] <astro76> scotty, try ctrl+alt+backspace to kill x
[11:03] <linkin> Try ctrl alt backspace
[11:03] <scotty> the game froze when loading
[11:03] <ditoa> what would be the most sensible programming language to start with if wanting to learn how to program with ubuntu as your operating system?
[11:04] <scotty> none of those are wokring
[11:04] <rolfen> scotty: the game probably captures all key combinations
[11:04] <x__> which format is for ubuntu ?? tar ? gz ?? bin ??? it's too many file format here :-s
[11:04] <user_> jmchaffie Yea I think about it but why resolv reset?
[11:04] <nj786> gordonjcp: i am talking about this icon https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticHowto?action=AttachFile&do=get&target=update-notification.png
[11:04] <NigelS> ditoa: if you don't know any languages then you can't go far wrong with learning C
[11:05] <NigelS> ditoa: from that you can recognise the syntax of the more modern languages
[11:05] <n2diy> scotty: can you get to a terminal with ctrl + alt + F2?
[11:05] <skollie> x__: what are you wanting to download?
[11:05] <ditoa> NigelS: I was wondering if learning C might be a bad idea for a n00b like myself?
[11:05] <NigelS> ditoa: why?
[11:05] <NigelS> ditoa: you only stop being a noob when you have learned something new :)
[11:05] <gordonjcp> nj786: yes, and what I'm saying is that if you're all up to date, you won't see it
[11:05] <scotty> i had to just shut it down, hopefulyl everythigns fine
[11:05] <x__> skollie <---------> flash player for Opera browser
[11:05] <ditoa> NigelS: just that it is a difficult language in that it is much lower levels than languages such as java or python
[11:05] <hak5fa1> Anyone have any exprerince with the logitech g15 keyboard lcd display and the xmms plugin i'm having problems compiling it
[11:06] <astro76> scott, if you can't get to a console or kill x you could use magic sysrq keys to gracefully reboot, maybe... http://www.arsgeek.com/?p=787
[11:06] <conorkirkpatrick> What command do you use to restart GDM?
[11:06] <ditoa> i have pretty much zero programming history
[11:06] <scotty> k thnx astro76
[11:06] <ditoa> batch files and vbscript is basically it
[11:06] <astro76> conorkirkpatrick, sudo invoke-rc.d gdm restart
[11:06] <conorkirkpatrick> ditoa: C for Dummies, the best book :D
[11:06] <NigelS> ditoa: it's not more difficult really - you just have to do more things without the oo model abstracting it away.  If you learn C then you understand to a finer level the benefit of OO and will appreciate Java/C# etc more
[11:06] <ditoa> a tiny bit of C# a couple of years ago
[11:06] <skollie> x__: have you tried installing it using synaptic?
[11:07] <ditoa> ok cool
[11:07] <ilovejump> hello ppl are there some good games for linux?
[11:07] <gordonjcp> ilovejump: yes loads
[11:07] <conorkirkpatrick> ilovejump: sauerbraten.org
[11:07] <ditoa> will have a look around on some C websites and see how i get on :)
[11:07] <astro76> !games | ilovejump
[11:07] <ubotu> ilovejump: Information about games on Ubuntu can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Games and http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php and ubuntugames.org
[11:07] <gordonjcp> oooh, sauerbraten, I haven't played that in years
[11:07] <NigelS> ditoa: you don't have to go deep into C either really
[11:07] <zerokill88> does anybody know if Ubuntu comes with the International kernel ptch
[11:07] <con_gone> It is way bettrer not
[11:08] <con_gone> EVERYONE who plays sauerbraten, get the latest CVS, it owns
[11:08] <x__> skollie<--------> i tried  like this in terminal :  sudo apt-get install flashplugun          and more commands ... didn't worked  :-(
[11:08] <brico> What is the firefox plugin that allows wmv videos to be streamed in the browser?
[11:08] <tabris|away> x__: uhhh. 'plugun' should be 'plugin'
[11:09] <x__> tabris..<--------->yeah but didn't worked
[11:09] <scotty> oops, i accidently removed the trashcan from the panel how do i get it back there???
[11:09] <NigelS> scotty: its just another panel applet, right click and choose it from the menu
[11:09] <brico> scotty: right click the panel your can add it back no problem
[11:09] <NigelS> scotty: if in doubt, right click - gnome is intuitive
[11:09] <anixhkr> right-click on panel, select add, select trash
[11:10] <PriceChild> !test
[11:10] <ubotu> failed
[11:10] <p47> What is the type when I mount a hs with ntfd... is mount -t ???
[11:10] <p47> what should I do ?
[11:10] <phreck> is SLI supported in linux?
[11:10] <skollie> x__: I think its called flashplugin-nonfree, but I'm not sure it will work wirh opera
[11:11] <FunnyLookinHat> Anyone know how I can deny access to a specific file in /usr/bin for a group that I create?
[11:11] <markdrago> anyone else seen problems with banshee not loading the daap plugin in feisty?
[11:11] <n2diy> FunnyLookinHat: remove their read permissions.
[11:11] <x__> skollie <----->  thanks ....   i use some program like real player for stream *.rm files
[11:12] <x__> skollie <--> sorry .. i need some program :-)
[11:12] <NigelS> x__: mozilla-mplayer will stream just about anything though its interface is somewhat imperfect
[11:13] <NixMan> I created this tuturial, can a few people tell me if it is easy to follow and understandable? http://techystuff.info/?p=62
[11:13] <skollie> x__: to use in opera?
[11:13] <x__> Nigles<----> how i can find it ??
[11:13] <NigelS> x__: how do you find any package?
[11:13] <x__> skolie <---> yeah .. i using opera
[11:14] <x__> nigels <---> donno .. i tried linux for 6 hour
[11:14] <BaD_CrC> how do i fix a "too many open files" error that programs are dishing at me?
[11:14] <skollie> x__: for your flash player issue, look at this- http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Edgy#How_to_install_Flash_Player_in_Opera
[11:15] <BaD_CrC> especially azureus
[11:15] <NigelS> x__: for opera, read this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OperaBrowser
[11:15] <NixMan> I created this tuturial, can a few people tell me if it is easy to follow and understandable? http://techystuff.info/?p=62
[11:15] <zlihome> Hello. Anyone know why I can't cycle though resolutions anymore(after upgrading from Dapper to Edgy) using ctrl+alt++ or ctrl+alt+-? My xorg.conf is posted at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/30042/ (it used to not have the "virtual ..." line but it didn't work then either.)
[11:16] <NigelS> x__: you can add programs from the add/remove program option on the apps menu but for more detail - go to admin and select synaptic; then search for the package mozilla-mplayer and install it.  Alternatively, in a terminal type sudo apt-get install mozilla-mplayer
[11:16] <x__> skollie<---> thanks ... u r verry good help :-)
[11:16] <skollie> x__: you're welcome
[11:16] <x__> nigels<-----> thanks ... i tried in terminal ... didn't worked :-(
[11:16] <anixhkr> NixMan: looks fine to me
[11:16] <Outrider> evening folk
[11:17] <NixMan> anixhkr: THANKS.
[11:17] <skollie> nixman: I could follow it with no problem... perfectly understandable
[11:17] <capo> im a bit of a noob to ubuntu.  how do you install proprietary ati video card drivers?
[11:17] <NigelS> x__: did you go to the page I sent you about opera?
[11:17] <NixMan> skollie: and how experienced with linux/ubuntu are you?
[11:17] <ShackJack> NixMan: Personally, on a single user system, I like to create a .fonts directory in my home folder ... then fc-cache -v /home/username/.fonts  -- that way they're there if I ever wip my root partition to reinstall...
[11:17] <x__> nigles <__> yeah ... i try too open it :-)
[11:17] <skollie> nixman: been using it for some years - four to be exact
[11:18] <NixMan> ShackJack: so your home dir isn't on the same partition? i was looking to do that, how can i?
[11:18] <mysticalone> Need help with video settings on Feisty, it's real bad
[11:18] <NixMan> skollie: ok, i've been using it for about 6 months, i like it. i was just wondering what a noob would think of the tutorial
[11:18] <FunnyLookinHat> n2diy, but how do I remove read permissions on a file for a specific user?  Rather than just all "users"   root/group/user doesn't really allow for that does it?
[11:18] <saleh> hello guys, i need tips for installing "allegro lisp". anyone can help me?
[11:18] <ShackJack> NixMan: No I never put it on the same partition... If you've already installed Ubuntu, etc.. there a tutorial somewhere... lemme look real quick..
[11:19] <Sonicadvance1> How do you make it so Terminal starts in your working directory?
[11:19] <n2diy> FunnyLookinHat: remove the user from the group.
[11:19] <skollie> nixman: the only thing I would change is where to extract the files - as you have it, it will cause some desktop clutter
[11:19] <BaD_CrC> is there a .MKV plugin for gstreamer?
[11:19] <astro76> FunnyLookinHat, you change the group from root to a group you create, and you add the group to users you want to ALLOW access
[11:19] <astro76> FunnyLookinHat, need to remove others permissions too, obviously
[11:20] <ShackJack> Sonicadvance1: There's a couple nifty nautilus add-ons for that - to open terminal in selected dir, run as superuser, resize, etc...
[11:20] <BaD_CrC> wheel
[11:20] <BaD_CrC> oh that's oldschool
[11:20] <saleh> i need help for installing "allegro lisp". anyone can help me???
[11:21] <Sammyhellsyea> hi
[11:21] <NixMan> ShackJack: ok, sounds good,
[11:21] <ShackJack> NixMan: Bah can't find it, but if you google around there's a tutorial to do if you've already have one partition..
[11:21] <Sammyhellsyea> so this is where i get help??
[11:22] <NixMan> skollie: it will just extract it to your home dir, in a folder, wouldn't it? i tried it...
[11:22] <ShackJack> Sammyhellsyea: If you ask nice :)
[11:22] <Sammyhellsyea> lol
[11:22] <Sammyhellsyea> please oh please can i have help
[11:22] <ShackJack> !ask | Sammyhellsyea
[11:22] <ubotu> Sammyhellsyea: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[11:22] <bizwark> does anyone know how I can get the universe repository on CD or something? I need to get the bcm43xx-fwcutter...and I have no network connection.
[11:23] <FunnyLookinHat> astro76, ahhh right.  See that's what I thought (create a unique group for access)     Thanks  : )
[11:23] <NixMan> ShackJack: ok, what i've done is encrypted my entire 200gb as a data drive, i'd like my profile to be there..could i do that? my 80gb is the one with ubuntu installed...only problem would be booting, the partition wouldn't be mounted, so i probably couldn't do it could i
[11:23] <skollie> nixman: the way I read it, the archive will be on the Desktop, so that it where it will be extracted unless you specify otherwise
[11:23] <Sammyhellsyea> lol ok...uhm im a hardcore windows fan...like ive never used linux
[11:23] <erUSUL> !aptoncd
[11:23] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about aptoncd - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:23] <saleh> i need help for installing "allegro lisp". anyone can help me???
[11:23] <hom2son> slt
[11:23] <NixMan> NigelS: nah, i don't think so. when you open terminal, you run it from home, try it, i did, so they were extracted to home
[11:23] <ShackJack> NixMan: I don't see why not, but unfortunately, I'm not an expert on that...
[11:23] <Sammyhellsyea> and now windows is going reallly crappy on my desktop so i decided to give ubunt a try but idk how to install it
[11:24] <NixMan> ShackJack: its because you didn't specify where to extract them, and terminal starts in your home
[11:24] <ShackJack> Sammyhellsyea: Ez - just pop in Live CD and get computer to boot from CD
[11:24] <Sammyhellsyea> i did.
[11:24] <ShackJack> Sammyhellsyea: What are you stuck on specifically?
[11:24] <ShackJack> NixMan: Eh?
[11:25] <saleh> i need help for installing "allegro lisp". anyone can help me???
[11:25] <NixMan> ShackJack: never mind...
[11:25] <Geminias> is there a way to adjust monitor brightness?
[11:25] <NixMan> ShackJack: wrong name...
[11:25] <Sammyhellsyea> well it started running through a list of numbers. and after about 4 hours it got up to about 11000 and i quit
[11:25] <Geminias> my laptop needs dim display for longer lasting battery life
[11:25] <skollie> nixman: my mistake. You were in your home dir and just pointing the file on the desktop. It will be extracted to a folder in your home dir. Comes from when one speedreads...
[11:25] <Geminias> currently windows vista outlasts ubuntu
[11:25] <NixMan> skollie: its because you didn't specify where to extract  them, and terminal starts in your home
[11:25] <Sammyhellsyea> and then i finally used the text instaler and it worked but when i start the computer it goes to the loading screen and just hangs forever
[11:25] <NixMan> skollie: ok, got it
[11:26] <scoobydoo28139> :-[ can some one help with a boot up problem? I installed drivers for my nvidia 8500gt but now i can't boot cause of driver problem. what do i do?
[11:26] <NixMan> skollie: i figured that would be the easiest way to put it, instead of explaining cd and home an dall
[11:26] <Luke> In sreen, my backspace doesn't work. I have to use ctrl+h. Does anyone know how to fix this?
[11:26] <bluefox83> scoobydoo28139, did you update your xorg.conf to use "nvidia" instead of "nv"?
[11:26] <scoobydoo28139> no
[11:27] <bluefox83> that might help..
[11:27] <scoobydoo28139> and now i can't boot
[11:27] <saleh> i need help for installing "allegro lisp". anyone can help me???
[11:27] <bluefox83> how did you install your video card drivers, did you let the "restricted drivers manager" do it?
[11:27] <Theory> Can someone point me in the right direction to create a NetworkManager package with debugging symbols included?
[11:27] <NixMan> ShackJack: i don't think it would work, because when you booted, the 200gb wouldn't be mounted, you have to mount it manually with the password, so ubuntu wouldn't be able to use some necesary files (themes, icons, etc)
[11:27] <skollie> nixman: for sure. Does make it easier for new users, but then you may also want to advise the removal of the archive afterwards
[11:27] <scoobydoo28139> blue fox83: i am a registered user can you pm me ?
[11:28] <capo> how do i install my ATI linux driver?  it always tries to open in gedit
[11:28] <bluefox83> scoobydoo28139, no thanks, i'm eating dinner...shouldn't be here anyways
[11:28] <ShackJack> NixMan: O.K... Like I said, I'm no expert - though one thing I've learned about linux is there's a way to do everything :_
[11:28] <bluefox83> scoobydoo28139, sorry i gotta go eat
[11:28] <NixMan> skollie: so i could add in another script thing...
[11:28] <ShackJack> Sammyhellsyea: Curious, what are specs on system?  Processor, mem, video?
[11:28] <marco__> hey guys .. im having troubles installing ubuntu 7.04 can anyone help me out please ?
[11:28] <scoobydoo28139> ok < i installed it through package manager
[11:29] <ShackJack> !ask | marco__
[11:29] <ubotu> marco__: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[11:29] <n2diy> ShackJack: at least two ways to do anything! :)
[11:29] <Sammyhellsyea> its a dell dimension 2350
[11:29] <scotty> oh, do you have to keep open wine when running a program through it???
[11:29] <oscuro_>  I'm trying to download feisty from ubuntu site.
[11:29] <oscuro_> it's my second attempt.
[11:29] <oscuro_> and it's annoying coz at some point, it stops.
[11:29] <x__> hi again
[11:29] <oscuro_> it doesn't continue d'ling.
[11:29] <ShackJack> Sammyhellsyea: Mmm... that doesn't say a lot -- processor? memory? video?
[11:29] <Sammyhellsyea> im not sure what kinda processor...i know it has a 30 gb hard drve and like 768 of memory
[11:29] <Stormx2> oscuro_: Use torrents?
[11:29] <saleh> i need help for installing "allegro lisp". anyone can help me???
[11:29] <oscuro_> no, the direct ftp from the sith stormx2.
[11:29] <skollie> nixman: or just the instruction rm ./Desktop/archive-name assuming the user is still in home dir
[11:30] <oscuro_> *site
[11:30] <x__> skollie <---> r u here ??
[11:30] <capo> how do I install my proprietary ATI linux driver?  it always opens in gedit
[11:30] <ShackJack> Sammyhellsyea: Have you tried booting in recovery mode (command line only - select from GRUB scrren?)
[11:30] <skollie> x__: yes, I am
[11:30] <Stormx2> oscuro_: Uhg. No, I meant - Use torrents!!
[11:30] <oscuro_> I'm very disapointed :(
[11:30] <savetheWorld> saleh: apt doesn't do it all by itself?
[11:30] <Sammyhellsyea> and its got like a $125 vid card i put in myself cuz games wont run with an onboard one
[11:30] <oscuro_> ohh
[11:30] <oscuro_> mmh
[11:30] <erUSUL> saleh: i'm sure there are instructions in the allegro website for instalation
[11:30] <marco__> i download it the i386.iso file from the net ... copy to the CD .. it opens but doesn't start the installing... message says ... Error reding boot device I/0
[11:30] <NixMan> skollie: thats exactly what i meant...becauese i never had them cd anywhere..
[11:30] <oscuro_> where can I get a reliable torrent friend?
[11:30] <Stormx2> oscuro_: That'll ensure it will get there, completely intact.
[11:30] <erUSUL> !iso | marco__
[11:30] <ubotu> marco__: To mount an ISO disc image, type  sudo mount -o loop <ISO-filename> <mountpoint>  - There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion - Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before !burning.
[11:30] <oscuro_> kk
[11:31] <skollie> nixman: you said script - that is just a command, but yes, it is that
[11:31] <oscuro_> I'll see what I can get, thank you very much.
[11:31] <Sammyhellsyea> no i havent
[11:31] <oscuro_> mmh I suppose there's an official torrent?
[11:31] <x__> skollie <---> i read that page ... can u help me and tell me wich format i should downloading from http://www.real.com/linux?pcode=rn&src=freeplayer_partner&opage=freeplayer_partner
[11:31] <Stormx2> erUSUL: You sure that's the factoid he needs? Wouldn't it be !verify?
[11:31] <PriceChild> !torents | oscuro_
[11:31] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about torents - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:31] <Sammyhellsyea> how do i do that
[11:31] <PriceChild> !torrents | oscuro_
[11:31] <ubotu> oscuro_: Torrent downloads for the Ubuntu ISOs are available on all the download pages. For Feisty: http://releases.ubuntu.com/feisty/ (CDs) or http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/7.04/release/ (DVDs)
[11:31] <saleh> savetheworld : i tried to install every packages that i found appropriate for it, but i got othing
[11:31] <marco__> sudo mount -o loop <ISO-filename> <mountpoint> where do i write this ?
[11:31] <ShackJack> Sammyhellsyea: See if you can boot into command line, at the very least, you can see where it's getting stuck...  Just select from GRUB screen - recovery mode...
[11:31] <NixMan> skollie: yeah, i meant command, but i'm thinking about writing some scripts for some of my advanced tutorials :)
[11:31] <oscuro_> Thanks a lot guys!
[11:31] <bizwark> aptoncd is not helping me...and my other box is windows, so is there a place I can just get isos that I can use or something?
[11:32] <vecina> How come my graphics have been bad since the last time i upgraded?
[11:32] <capo> how do I install my proprietary ATI linux driver?  it always opens in gedit
[11:32] <PriceChild> !ati | capo
[11:32] <ubotu> capo: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[11:32] <sniper89> guys, just one more question regarding my startup script
[11:32] <vecina> when i double click an icon its little blow-up animation is really slow, and in Blender everything is choppy
[11:32] <ShackJack> capo: Have you tried restricted driver manager under Admin?
[11:32] <vecina> this seems to happen a lot when i upgrade.
[11:32] <x__> skollie <----> did u get that link ??
[11:33] <sniper89> does su - cs -c "./hlds_run -game cstrike +maxplayers 10 +map de_rats_2001 +rcon_password \"onodadoeo\"" & actually execute the & as a command for user "cs" or as a command for the root user
[11:33] <skollie> x__: gimme a sec. looking at it
[11:33] <x__> ok
[11:33] <ShackJack> vecina: You'd need to provide more info - i.e. kind of graphics board, driver, are you using Compiz/XGL, etc...
[11:34] <astro76> sniper89, use sudo to run commands as root
[11:34] <Sammyhellsyea> ok....it stopped at "[   33.97250]  [11:34] <vecina> vecina: Im in plain KDM, and I have an ATI Radeon x700 series
[11:34] <Theory> sniper89: it will apply to the 'su' command
[11:34] <x__> skollie<----> ok .. thanks ... i got this link from that link u gave me :-)
[11:34] <ShackJack> vecina: ATI - bleech... which driver you using?
[11:34] <scoobydoo28139> any one can explain how to fix my ubuntu so i can boot to it?
[11:34] <sniper89> Theory: so not to what user 'cs' runs but to what the script runs, right? it's an init.d script, astro76
[11:35] <vecina> ShackJack: Proprietary, i think. I used "envy". Its worked fine until the upgrade
[11:35] <skollie> x__: do you want to install flashplayer or realplayer?
[11:35] <astro76> sniper89, then you don't need sudo
[11:35] <sniper89> astro76: it's su USER
[11:35] <sniper89> it runs a command as another user
[11:35] <Theory> sniper89: I think you want start-stop-daemon
[11:35] <x__> skollie <---> both ,-)
[11:35] <sniper89> not as root
[11:35] <sniper89> Theory: nah, nvm that
[11:35] <CrashandDie> hey guys, a friend of mine just isntalled ubuntu, when he tries to access the update manager or anything that requires the root password, it doesn't accept the password, we did change the password with sudo passwd root
[11:36] <ShackJack> vecina: Personall, I would stick with radeon/ati driver that comes in repos...
[11:36] <PriceChild> CrashandDie, its using the users password
[11:36] <skollie> x__: ok. it is probably wise to do one at a time..
[11:36] <TheNo1Yeti> It's not asking for the root password
[11:36] <astro76> sniper89, right sorry
[11:36] <sniper89> Theory: I'm just curious whether it's putting the & in the command executed by user root as user CS or root himself
[11:36] <PriceChild> CrashandDie, not the root password
[11:36] <ShackJack> scoobydoo28139: When you say "boot into it" -- you mean the GUI?
[11:36] <vecina> ShackJack: That usually has really bad effects llike these
[11:36] <bom8895> ehee
[11:36] <Sammyhellsyea> ok....it stopped at "[   33.97250]  [11:36] <x__> skollie <--> ok .. then Real first  ... plz :-)
[11:36] <Theory> sniper89: the & is interpreted by the shell, which treats su just as any other command
[11:36] <scoobydoo28139> yes boot to the os through grub
[11:37] <ShackJack> vecina: Maybe try tweaking KDE special effects -- turn off etc... driver might not support alpha blending, etc...
[11:37] <scoobydoo28139> os start to boot but then says x bad
[11:37] <vecina> ShackJack: okay ill try that... tnx
[11:37] <ShackJack> scoobydoo28139: does it offer any more info... scroll down - error message
[11:37] <skollie> x__: for the realplayer download you have a choice between the .bin file and the .bz2. Both will work, but not sure which is easier, but you will also need to look for the install instructions somewhere. The .bin file might be an installer rather than the archive
[11:37] <marco__> hey.. i download the file .. but i cant install ubuntu 7.04
[11:37] <marco__> help please
[11:37] <sniper89> Theory: oh, lawl, I put " there anyway
[11:38] <skollie> marco__: which file did you download?
[11:38] <Theory> but really, you want start-stop-daemon
[11:38] <vb> I have a question about VNC and GDM. I've gotten it working just fine (shared session with currently logged-in user). However, I want to make the VNC server throw the user to a login screen to start a new session and that doesn't seem to be working. I've read a tutorial that is supposed to do that, but it doesn't work. I'm missing something..
[11:38] <pm2> Can anyone recommend any software for making a simple slideshow?  ie, just taking a bunch of JPEG photos, displaying each for a few seconds, and putting in a soundtrack?  I'd like to be able to export it as an mpeg or any other kind of movie file.
[11:38] <x__> skollie <--> yeah .. i got *.bin and *.rpm ... i donno how i can install them and wich one :-(
[11:38] <sniper89> Theory: to close the command sent to the cs user shell... but what if the "s weren't put there to indicate which part is the actual command, would that & be sent as the CS user's command part or as a part of the SU command
[11:38] <vb> pm2: ffmpeg?
[11:39] <vb> pm2: rather, dvd-slideshow with ffmpeg
[11:39] <clever> vb: 'vncserver' starts its own vnc private server which you can shove a second gdm into
[11:39] <pm2> vb, I'll take a look at that, thanks
[11:39] <skollie> x__: rpm is tricky and very involved. Go look on that site and see if they have install instructions
[11:39] <marco__> skollie i've downloaded the file for intel systems .. it says ubuntu-7.04-desktop.i386.iso .... but it downloaded two files .. one it the same name .. but says .part
[11:39] <clever> vb: x0vncserver and some others ocnnect to an existing x server
[11:40] <Theory> sniper89: su will continue to be running as long as the command you pass to it does
[11:40] <skollie> marco__: if you have the full iso, you have to burn it to a CD to be used for installation
[11:40] <vb> clever: I'm connecting to :1 and the xinetd conf is set to use :1 which *should* be different than the physical login on :0 though, right?
[11:40] <scoobydoo28139> shackjack:yes it says x or drivers are wrong for my card. Its a nvidia 8500gt, i downloaded from nvdia glx package, then i ran in terminal" sudo nvivia-xconfig -add-argb-glx-visuals" and restarted, now it won't work
[11:40] <ShackJack> marco__: Sounds ike CD is defective? Did you check for errors?
[11:40] <PriceChild> marco__, using firefox.. that looks like it only half downloaded maybe?
[11:40] <clever> vb: yes normaly :0 and :1 are fully seperate
[11:40] <marco__> yes
[11:40] <marco__> it has 693 MB i think
[11:40] <tim> test!
[11:40] <ShackJack> scoobydoo28139: are you in command line now?
[11:41] <x__> skollie <----> i fond some terminal command but didn't worked for me :-( ... thanks for help :-)
[11:41] <clever> vb: but the 'vncserver' i have which has yet to work on ubuntu makes its own which for you may wind up as :2
[11:41] <sniper89> Theory: I know, I know, my point is whether that & will be a part of the command assigned to the -c parameter or an argument sent to the su command
[11:41] <skollie> x__: let me look...
[11:41] <x__> skollie <-->and sorry for disturbing u :-)
[11:41] <clever> vb: which has no moniter or keyboard attached and the vnc may perform better in it
[11:41] <vb> clever: see, then I don't understand why it's not working. :p my current session is :0.0 and the vnc server is running on :1.... hmm.. I'll try :2
[11:41] <sniper89> Theory: like eg. - is
[11:41] <un4get> lemme ask you, i dont know why but (alt shift) for changing language isnt workin, anyone knows why?
[11:41] <ShackJack> marco__: See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=192689 dunno if it'll help...
[11:41] <feld> are there any 7.04.1 alternative install amd64 images ANYWHERE that I can get my hands on? even if it's not final?
[11:41] <clever> vb: something usefull is to run stuff like 'DISPLAY=:2 xlsclients'
[11:42] <scoobydoo28139> shackjack: no i am using live cd
[11:42] <clever> vb: if your xauth file has the cookies you can spy into other X servers or inject programs
[11:42] <Sammyhellsyea> does anyone know how to help me??
[11:42] <clever> vb: ive used it to get gedit open at the gdm login screen:P
[11:42] <marco__> skollie i did that.. i burn it the the cd .. but doesn't work ... the setup starts but when it starts to install... it stop and says .. error on boot device ... and something like I/o
[11:42] <vb> clever: as I run vncserver? I'm using xinetd to start it..
[11:42] <vb> clever: haha
[11:42] <ShackJack> scoobydoo28139: I don't understand - you haven't installed ubuntu yet - are trying or what?
[11:42] <clever> vb: lol
[11:42] <skollie> marco__: my iso is 697.9 MB
[11:42] <Theory> sniper89: & is purely a shell feature, it is never sent to a command
[11:42] <sniper89> Amaranth: how can I assign myself to the ubuntu freenode group (or are you an active member of the ubuntu dev team itself :>)?
[11:42] <Theory> (unless quoted etc)
[11:43] <Theory> it is different to - in this respect
[11:43] <marco__> mine its 631 MB just check it
[11:43] <Drk_Guy> How can i extract files from the Ubuntu cd
[11:43] <sniper89> Theory: hmm hmm hmm I can't really present this to be clear enough :D
[11:43] <skollie> marco__: yeah, looks like a faulty CD
[11:43] <Drk_Guy> More exactly. all the OO files
[11:43] <scoobydoo28139> shack: yes i installed it but i can't get into it now cause of bad video, so i am using live cd now
[11:43] <marco__> how do i do then ?
[11:43] <Drk_Guy> scoobydoo, try re-configuring X
[11:44] <ShackJack> scoobydoo28139: Do you know what string you have set for driver in your xorg.conf?
[11:44] <scoobydoo28139> i would if i knew how:)
[11:44] <Drk_Guy> Go into the recovery mode, then type "sudo dpkg re-configure xorgxorgconf"
[11:44] <ShackJack> scoobydoo28139: You can boot into your real system and exit to command line...
[11:44] <Drk_Guy> Or something like that
[11:44] <Sammyhellsyea> ok well then ill find someone else...'
[11:44] <marco__> skollie i have to download the file again ? and how do i burn it right to the CD
[11:44] <marco__> ?
[11:44] <Drk_Guy> It helped me one time, but i forgot the command
[11:44] <scoobydoo28139> then what do i type in comand line?
[11:45] <ShackJack> scoobydoo28139: In your xorg.conf you should have driver "nvidia" in there... You can type cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf | grep -i driver to see....
[11:45] <x__> :-)
[11:45] <skollie> marco__: it does look like you only have part of the file, so yes, it looks like you need to download again
[11:45] <pm2> vb, you wouldn't happen to know if there's a gui for dvd-slideshow?
[11:45] <Drk_Guy> ShackJack, he needs to mount the REAL Ubuntu drive to do that
[11:45] <ShackJack> scoobydoo28139: sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf will let you edit it.... Ctrl+Key let you save, etc...
[11:45] <marco__> :( skollie how do i burn it properly ?
[11:46] <ShackJack> Drk_Guy: Yes, that's what I told him to do ...
[11:46] <Drk_Guy> ScoobyDoo, fstab -l
[11:46] <skollie> marco__: do you have k3b?
[11:46] <emprog> Hi room, I would like to check my hard drive without smartmontools, anyone know of a good application for this? My hard drive has been making some noise lately (faint) but I would still like to check the hard drive out.
[11:46] <Drk_Guy> Then pastebin the output
[11:46] <vb> pm2: http://download.videohelp.com/tin2tin/ I think
[11:46] <scoobydoo28139> can i get to it through the live cd?
[11:46] <marco__> no.... nothing ,... just the basic Ubuntu 5.04
[11:46] <Drk_Guy> Yeah
[11:46] <vb> pm2: hmm, that looks win32 now..
[11:46] <Drk_Guy> Just type the command i told ya
[11:47] <Drk_Guy> Trust me scoobydoo
[11:47] <pm2> vb, oh well, I'll look around, thanks
[11:47] <ubuntu___> hello
[11:47] <pm2> maybe linux picasa can do this
[11:47] <marco__>  no.... nothing ,... just the basic Ubuntu 5.04 skollie
[11:47] <emprog> any hard drive testing tools?
[11:47] <Drk_Guy> \/
[11:47] <M3t0r> is it possbile to mount a internal hdd with a live ubuntu 6.06?
[11:48] <skollie> marco__: can be dome from command line, but I cannot remember how - try to google it. You planning a clean install?
[11:48] <Stormx2> M3t0r: Yeah.
[11:48] <Drk_Guy> M3t0r, yes
[11:48] <sniper89> Theory: allright, my point is... imagine I remove the quote signs from the command
[11:48] <xp_prg> how do I tell if I have a dvd burner on my laptop?
[11:48] <Stormx2> M3t0r: mount /dev/hdxx /mnt/point.
[11:48] <Drk_Guy> Mount and Umount
[11:48] <marco__> skollie yeah
[11:48] <sniper89> Theory: not all of them, just the ones between -c and &
[11:48] <skollie> x_: what was the command line thing that you talked about?
[11:48] <M3t0r> and with wich application:
[11:48] <SlimeyPete> xp_prg: look t the outside of the drive. It'll probably have a label on it.
[11:48] <Drk_Guy> Monut for mounting, Umount for unmounting
[11:49] <xp_prg> ok it does :)
[11:49] <M3t0r> via terminal?
[11:49] <marco__> skollie thanks
[11:49] <sniper89> Theory: would & act as a part of the command that's currently in the quotation marks or still will the command line that's in the quotation marks end where it ends ATM and would the & be parsed as a separate part
[11:49] <wit_273> How do I get my system to see my digital video camera?  What program do I need for this.  I have a JVC GR-DV500U
[11:49] <Drk_Guy> For example, if you want to mount /dev/hdb in /mnt/tmp, you must do this, 1) mkdir /mnt/tmp (To create the mnt point), 2) mount /dev/hdb /mnt/tmp
[11:50] <skollie> marco_: np
[11:50] <Drk_Guy> In a terminal
[11:50] <neilvegher> hello
[11:50] <sniper89> oi tharr
[11:50] <Drk_Guy> But if you want to unmount it, you just have to type: umount /mnt/tmp
[11:51] <M3t0r> Stormx2: i have only one hd with only one partition, but hda1 is not found
[11:51] <Drk_Guy> Or if you want to mount an iso...
[11:51] <sniper89> Drk_Guy: I hate that umount thing, it should be unmount, darn it
[11:51] <Drk_Guy> !iso | M3t0r
[11:51] <ubotu> M3t0r: To mount an ISO disc image, type  sudo mount -o loop <ISO-filename> <mountpoint>  - There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion - Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before !burning.
[11:51] <sniper89> Drk_Guy: I spent much time trying to unmount a NTFS partition, lawl :P
[11:51] <Stormx2> M3t0r: Do a sudo fdisk -l
[11:51] <Drk_Guy> Sniper, read a Unix manual and your ready to go!
[11:52] <sniper89> Drk_Guy: heh :
[11:52] <M3t0r> i do not understand what you mean
[11:52] <sniper89> Drk_Guy: check this out: type sni[press TAB]  :)
[11:52] <Drk_Guy> Hey guys!
[11:52] <Drk_Guy> sniper, i don't use Ubuntu
[11:52] <Drk_Guy> I use PuppyLinux
[11:52] <M3t0r> Drk_Guy: i wont mount an iso
[11:53] <sniper89> Drk_Guy: that works in most IRC clients though
[11:53] <fredorback> salut les linuxien
[11:53] <PriceChild> !tab | sniper89
[11:53] <ubotu> sniper89: You can use <tab> for autocompletion of nicknames in IRC, as well as for completion of filenames and programs on the command line.
[11:53] <sniper89> Drk_Guy: it's not distro-conditioned
[11:53] <PriceChild> !fr | fredorback
[11:53] <Alethes> I've got an NEC USB Controller that is recognized by lspci, but doesn't recognize any of the devices attached through it
[11:53] <mc44> !fr | fredorback
[11:53] <ubotu> fredorback: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[11:53] <Drk_Guy> Cool
[11:53] <sniper89> ubotu: are you a bot? :P
[11:53] <sniper89> yeah
[11:53] <Alethes> anybody know what module I need to load to get the card to be recognized?
[11:53] <mc44> !bot > sniper89
[11:53] <PriceChild> !away > TheNo1Yeti_Away
[11:53] <skollie> marco_: this is how to burn the cd from the command line - 'cdrecord dev=/dev/cdrom driveropts=burnfree -v -data cd_image.iso'
[11:53] <Drk_Guy> So cool sni+TAB, sorry sniper89
[11:53] <sniper89> it msg'ed me anyway, mc44 :)
[11:54] <saxonjf> Hey, why isn't Pidgin in the repositories yet?
[11:54] <eland> Anyone know how to get genisoimage to keep directory structure? i.e., if I tell I do 'genisoimage -dry-run -d /dev/cdrom folder1 folder2 file1 file2' it strips the leading directory for the folders. It copies only their contents
[11:54] <sniper89> right, I'm off, I hate an IRC window going 'active' all the time
[11:54] <eland> ^ growsisofs
[11:54] <saxonjf> Or in Synaptic yet?
[11:54] <ShackJack> saxonjf: goto getdeb.net they have a handy deb install file...
[11:54] <PriceChild> saxonjf, ubuntu is frozen at release and only major bug fixes and security patches get in.
[11:54] <John`> for this script: DISPLAY=:0 mplayer -vo gl -ao alsa $NAUTILUS_SCRIPT_SELECTED_FILE_PATHS , how do I make it so that it read file names with space in between?
[11:54] <eland> s/genisoimage/growisofs
[11:54] <saxonjf> Shack, does it replace the old Gaim?
[11:55] <Drk_Guy> How can i extract the OO files from the Ubuntu's LiveCD??????
[11:55] <ShackJack> saxonjf: No - you can have both running but it picks up settings...
[11:55] <DjViper> weird question: where can I find ubuntu-balloons? ie. balloons with ubuntu logo..
[11:55] <ShackJack> saxonjf: Course you'll want to remove GAIM :P
[11:55] <PriceChild> ShackJack, not needed
[11:55] <saxonjf> So I would need to remove Gaim using add/remove
[11:56] <rapha> Hi all!
[11:56] <ShackJack> DjViper: You'll have to make those yourself...
[11:56] <ShackJack> PriceChild: What's not needed?
[11:56] <xp_prg> what device does ubuntu assign to the dvd writer?
[11:56] <rapha> Do I have to include a texture for a map with my .pk3 even when it is from the 'common' set?
[11:56] <John`> for this script: DISPLAY=:0 mplayer -vo gl -ao alsa $NAUTILUS_SCRIPT_SELECTED_FILE_PATHS , how do I make it so that it read file names with space in between?
[11:56] <rapha> oops
[11:56] <DjViper> ShackJack: okay :(
[11:56] <rapha> wrong chan
[11:56] <ShackJack> PriceChild: If you mean with deb install, I'm pretty sure you'll have to remove GAIM - well, not *have* to but there's no point in having it around :)
[11:57] <PriceChild> ShackJack, indeed
[11:57] <ShackJack> saxonjf: I had it on Fesity installed that way and worked great - I'm on Gutsy now...
[11:57] <John`> anyone know?
[11:58] <Drk_Gu1> How can i extract the OO files from the Ubuntu's LiveCD??????
[11:58] <Drk_Gu1> How can i extract the OO files from the Ubuntu's LiveCD??????
[11:58] <Alethes> can somebody give me an idea of what module needs to be loaded to suport an NEC usb pci card?
[11:59] <saxonjf> Since I am here, I can't get desktop effects to work well at all.
[11:59] <vb> clever: seem to have it sort of working, except now it wants to open twm instead of gdm for some reason. :p
[11:59] <ShackJack> saxonjf: check out #ubuntu-effects for that...
[11:59] <clever> vb: you can change that in the startup scripts
[11:59] <saxonjf> I wonder if anyone is there
[11:59] <clever> vb: not shure where they are but it can be changed
[12:00] <vb> clever: yeah, I know.. but that was totally random because it *was* using gdm. :)
[12:00] <clever> lol
[12:00] <StR> !nvidia
[12:00] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto