[00:00] <xangua> Maybe you could start with A before B
[00:00] <infinitephantasm> well, it needs me to build it using a kernel source build folder, which i can't find
[00:00] <infinitephantasm> the one it defaults to doesn't exist
[00:00] <xangua> Maybe you need to start with A before B and C
[00:01] <Ben64> what's the actual issue
[00:01] <infinitephantasm> basically i have the conexant hsf usb modem i'm trying to install, but can't seem to find the proper drivers to without having it be required on a older version
[00:02] <infinitephantasm> http://www.linuxant.com/drivers/hsf/oem/
[00:02] <infinitephantasm> these drivers specifically
[00:02] <genii> ugh, Conexant
[00:02] <infinitephantasm> it's annoying to even find the proper solution and i've looked everywhere
[00:03] <genii> infinitephantasm: I can tell you already that the linuxant source tree contains 32bit binary blobs that no longer work on pretty much anything
[00:04] <infinitephantasm> great =_=
[00:04] <genii> infinitephantasm: I had the exact same problem with them before
[00:05] <infinitephantasm> it just says "Where is the linux source build directory that matches your running kernel?"
[00:05] <infinitephantasm> it defaults to [/lib/modules/4.4.0-53-generic/build]
[00:06] <infinitephantasm> and that doesn't work because it's missing version.h because it doesn't exist
[00:06] <infinitephantasm> (the whole path ((not /lib/modules/, the generic part) just doesn't occur)
[00:06] <infinitephantasm> then it grants me the option of using /boot/config-4.4.0-53-generic in a temporary kernel tree
[00:07] <infinitephantasm> try that, it waits a couple seconds, then basically fails because it's unable to prepare said temporary kernel tree
[00:08] <infinitephantasm> so basically if i can't get this installed i'm gonna have to buy one that actually works :l
[00:08] <genii> infinitephantasm: If you still want to persist on this, take a look at my extremely old posting on it, #49 at https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1015673&page=5
[00:08] <Ben64> seems like buying a new one would be best
[00:09] <infinitephantasm> i'm running it on a VM, so if i break anything it won't be a total loss
[00:09] <genii> infinitephantasm: As you can see, I did manage to get things working back in 2006
[00:09] <infinitephantasm> it's 10 years after that so i don't know if it'll work lmao
[00:13] <infinitephantasm> by the way, it seems someone's still trying to keep driver links alive
[00:13] <genii> infinitephantasm: Your Mileage May Vary
[00:13] <infinitephantasm> @ george-hopkins.github.io/hsfmodem/
[00:13] <infinitephantasm> nice on them
[00:14] <genii> infinitephantasm: But truthfully, you're just better off to go grab a modem that works under Linux instead, the amount of time that can be wasted on things like this, if you count up the hours, you're losing a lot of potentially useful time for some other thing
[00:15] <infinitephantasm> i'm a 16 year old in high school with no job. i have no such thing as useful time :P
[00:15] <infinitephantasm> + i have no money to buy what i need (dell nw147 or whatever) anyways
[00:15] <genii> Then tinker away :)
[00:21] <iresf> the first error is : This application failed to start because it could not find or load the Qt platform plugin "xcb".
[00:21] <iresf> ?
[00:22] <cfhowlett> !ping
[00:23] <iresf> how to install qt platform plugin xcb on ubuntu 14.04 ?
[00:23] <may68> Apt-get install brain
[00:23] <genii> !info xcb | iresf
[00:23] <genii> Hm
[00:24] <may68> Ubuntu is kinda crap
[00:24] <may68> The user interface is terrible
[00:25] <genii> may68: Good thing that there's also Lubuntu, Xubuntu, Mythbuntu, Kubuntu, Ubuntu-Mate and lots of other desktop environments for you to try then
[00:25] <iresf> ubottu : i installed it but still it has same error
[00:26] <ElinKattunge> Hi
[00:26] <ElinKattunge> Few you let me talk! Goody good!
[00:26] <cfhowlett> may68, you have at least 6 different desktop environments to choose from not to mention more themes than can be easily counted.  you are also free to use any of the other ubuntu flavors --- indeed you are free to use ANY linux.  "ubuntu is crap" suggests you would be happier elsewhere.  please explore your options but keep such sentiments OUT of the tech support channels.  thank you.
[00:40] <infinitephantasm> genii: yeah, couldn't get it to work
[00:40]  * genii shrugs
[00:40] <infinitephantasm> apparently gave '/usr/lib/hsfmodem/modules/GPL/oscompat.h:125:24: fatal error: asm/system.h: No such file or directory'
[00:40] <infinitephantasm> oh well
[00:41]  * genii wanders off to watch Leafs
[00:46] <cfhowlett> !ping
[00:48] <black91> sudo apt-get install libQt5XcbQpa.so
[00:48] <black91> .5
[00:49] <cfhowlett> black91, now do that in your terminal
[00:56] <may68> How can I make Ubuntu look like windows 10
[00:57] <cfhowlett> may68, please stop trolling this channel.
[00:58] <kk4ewt> may68,  google exactly that in google
[00:59] <bazhang> http://www.linuxandubuntu.com/home/transform-your-ubuntu-into-windows-10-look-with-these-gtk-themes may68
[00:59] <bazhang> may68, that was found with a two second web search
[01:02] <iresf> does lubuntu 16.04 or Kubuntu  support fglrx  ?
[01:02] <Ben64> i don't think fglrx is a thing anymore
[01:03] <bazhang> !info fglrx
[01:03] <bazhang> iresf, no, why would it
[01:04] <bazhang> what are you doing that you think you need iresf
[01:05] <iresf> i have Apu  Radeon R5   M240  and want main driver it on ubuntu supported by amd
[01:05] <bazhang> r5?
[01:06] <bazhang> how old is that card iresf
[01:06] <iresf> i saw in amd website that released some version but i could not see my model ( R5  M240 )     and i do not know what  do i do
[01:06] <iresf> yes
[01:06] <iresf> seller   lied me
[01:06] <bazhang> iresf, please tell us why you think you need fglrx
[01:08] <cfhowlett> iresf, more likely the seller did not actually know
[01:09] <iresf> cfhowlett :maybe
[01:11] <iresf> bazhang : i use android virtual device  on ubuntu  to test app and android programming     without fglrx  the performance of android VD is very bad
[01:11] <iresf> also i need to  Opengl properties for that
[01:12] <iresf> i deleted ubuntu 16.04 only for fglrx and installed 14.04 but unfortuanely it   emulator64-x86 deos not work  on ubuntu 14.04
[01:13] <may68> I'll trade you. Debian for A Ubuntu
[01:13] <may68> Deal?
[01:15] <bazhang> may68, stay on topic here
[01:16] <may68> Ok, what Ubuntu project needs volunteers the most
[01:16] <bazhang> may68, check the mailing lists
[01:16] <bazhang> this is ubuntu technical support, not chatter about ubuntu
[01:17] <bazhang> !lists | may68
[01:20] <iresf> what is Segmentation fault (core dumped)   when i  ./libqxcb ?
[01:24] <Geo> If I installed a server iso, but want to use the gui desktop, what packages should I install?
[01:26] <iresf> on ldd  :  http://paste.ubuntu.com/23596259/
[01:27] <Bashing-om> !desktop
[01:31] <Geo> is GNOME the default on desktop edition?
[01:32] <Geo> but first, i have a larger problem- i just installed in a VM from the iso, and now when i apt update, it only looks to the CD as the source- how do I get it to look to the internet repos?
[01:34] <cfhowlett> Geo, plain vanilla ubuntu default is unity
[01:35] <Geo> so what package would I need to install to get that up and running?
[01:35] <cfhowlett> ... "that" ?
[01:35] <Geo> unity
[01:35] <cfhowlett> Geo, did you install ubuntu or ubuntu-gnome?
[01:35] <Geo> i guess the original question scrolled off- I installed from a server iso, not desktop
[01:36] <Geo> if i want to enable the default desktop environment ubuntu desktop ships with, which packages do I need to install?
[01:36] <cfhowlett> ah.  right.  sudo apt install ubuntu-desktop will get the full meal deal.
[01:36] <Geo> cool, thanks
[01:36] <cfhowlett> happy2help!
[01:36] <Geo> and then for my harder question- any thoughts on that?
[01:36] <cfhowlett> Geo, restate the question
[01:36] <Geo> why the source list only seems to be looking for the cdrom?
[01:37] <Geo> apt-get update tries searching the cdrom as the package source, not the internet repos
[01:37] <cfhowlett> ... <forest gump voice says ...> because you told it to.
[01:37] <Geo> I just popped it in and let it ride... i thought it would install a sources list that would point to the internet when it was done installing
[01:37] <cfhowlett> Geo, in other words, go into your software settings and disable the cdrom
[01:38] <Geo> its not mounted... and I don't recall ever seeing a source list on my other isntalls have cdrom:// as a source in it
[01:38] <cfhowlett> Geo, more /etc/apt/sources.list will show you
[01:39] <Geo> right - do i need to delete those cdrom refereces?
[01:39] <Geo> its just different from what I'm used to seeig, thats what I'm a little thrown
[01:39] <cfhowlett> Geo, or just comment them out
[01:39] <Geo> yeah.  The card in question is asus PCE-n53. The card shows up in lspci but doesn't show up in iwconfig. I compiled the drivers using make and make install. I then ran modprobe right after with no luck. Anyone have any ideas?
[01:42] <Geo> I'm installing this b/c my upgrade from 14 to 16 (in a vm) has started freezing the VM on a near daily basis and, in some cases, even the host
[01:43] <Geo> have you seen anyone else with an issue like this?
[01:43] <justPie> lspci -v returns : http://pastebin.com/hCRZPJH0
[01:43] <cfhowlett> Geo, freezing the HOST?  unusual!
[01:43] <Geo> the reigning hypothesis is that the vmtools have borked something
[01:43] <Geo> yeah
[01:43] <Geo> I normally wouldn't associate that with the VM, but it was started immediately after the upgrade, along with the VM freezes
[01:53] <tsimonq2> Hey guys, I want to do something complicated and am not finding much documentation on it.
[01:53] <Mahjongg> hi, how can i modify network connections in terminal? I removed ubuntu-desktop as this instance is running on a remote machine with restricted hardware
[01:53] <SchrodingersScat> !ask | tsimonq2
[01:53] <SchrodingersScat> goes for you too Mahjongg, what are you actually trying to do?
[01:53] <tsimonq2> Let's say I have 4 different partitions I want to set a RAID 5 array up on. I want to install Ubuntu on them via debootstrap, or appendix 4 in the installation guide.
[01:54] <tsimonq2> SchrodingersScat: I was typing. ;)
[01:54] <tsimonq2> !patience
[01:54] <tsimonq2> :P
[01:54] <tsimonq2> ANYWAYS
[01:54] <Mahjongg> SchrodingersScat, I'd like to disable wifi and use the ethernet port to connect that box to the LAN
[01:54] <Mahjongg> 16.04.1
[01:54] <SchrodingersScat> Mahjongg: did your ethernet require special drivers?
[01:55] <tsimonq2> So back to my question. How do I set this up and mount them so that I can run debootstrap, and how do I configure that system to boot from the RAID array?
[01:55] <Mahjongg> SchrodingersScat, it does not, and it is actually now connected, without me doing anything, I guess all I need to do is to make sure if that connection will be persistent if I reboot and disable wifi connection afterwards
[01:55] <tsimonq2> I need a separate /boot partition, right?
[01:55] <tsimonq2> Basically I want to do this but not with the alternate installer: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SoftwareRAID
[01:56] <Mahjongg> How can I disable the wifi connection, ideally temporarily?
[01:57] <tsimonq2> tl;dr I want to set up a bootable RAID 5 array install using https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/installation-guide/amd64/apds04.html
[01:57] <SchrodingersScat> Mahjongg: ifconfig can be handy. ifconfig nameofwifidevice down  #should kill it
[01:57] <Mahjongg> SchrodingersScat, would that be persistent?
[01:58] <SchrodingersScat> across reboots? i actually have no idea D:
[01:58] <Mahjongg> SchrodingersScat, correct
[01:58] <Mahjongg> what console tool does the wifi connection? it has to store ssid and password somewhere
[01:59]  * tsimonq2 patiently waits for someone to stumble onto my question, a rather complicated one...
[01:59] <SchrodingersScat> Mahjongg: http://askubuntu.com/questions/461825/connect-to-wifi-from-command-line
[02:01] <BlackDalek> How do I upgrade from 16.04 LTS to 16.04.1 LTS? the update manager thing only gives me the option for 16.10?
[02:02] <cfhowlett> BlackDalek, sudo apt udpate && sudo apt full-upgrade
[02:02] <tsimonq2> BlackDalek: 16.04.1 = fully updated 16.04. :)
[02:02] <vacho> sorry for asking a non-ubuntu related question.. where can I get free email hosting for my domain? Any ideas?
[02:03] <BlackDalek> tsimonq2, my 16.04 lts is fully updated, so is it 16.04.1 lts already, but it just does not say so anywhere?
[02:03] <tsimonq2> vacho: I'm not sure about "free" hosting, but Gandi has awesome email hosting. :)
[02:04] <tsimonq2> vacho: Either way, the people in #ubuntu-offtopic would be able to give you loads of advice on it. I would try there. :)
[02:04] <cfhowlett> BlackDalek, cat /etc/issue    will tell you
[02:05] <BlackDalek> cfhowlett, ahhh.. ok. Yes, it does say 16.04.1 ;)
[02:05] <BlackDalek> mystery solved ;)
[02:06] <tsimonq2> BlackDalek: or lsb_release -a ;)
[02:06] <BlackDalek> thanks
[02:06] <tsimonq2> No problem BlackDalek, have a nice rest of your day. :)
[02:08] <tsimonq2> Hmm, let's take a peek at the d-i source and see if I can answer my own question...
[02:13] <tsimonq2> Unfortunately it looks like I'll have to do a test install in a VM and take a peek at it afterwards
[02:13] <tsimonq2> Or boot the Ubuntu Server image in a VM mounting all my discs and do the install from the VM...
[02:14] <tsimonq2> Argh, if only someone had a RAID array already set up as their root partition, so I could just look at how it's mounted in /etc/fstab
[02:16] <tsimonq2> Hm, I'm gonna experiment and see if I can set this up properly on my own...
[02:18] <Geo> whats the issue?
[02:18] <Geo> mount it like a normal drive
[02:18] <Geo> /dev/md0   /   bla......
[02:20] <tsimonq2> Geo: I want to do a debootstrap install on a RAID 5 setup, so I need a separate /boot then right?
[02:20] <Geo> I have a mirror as my /
[02:20] <tsimonq2> How's that work?
[02:21] <Geo> just fine?
[02:21] <Geo> I dont recall specifics
[02:21] <Geo> but I do remember fretting about it
[02:21] <tsimonq2> But you boot off of mdadm?
[02:21] <Geo> but it worked first time, whatever I did
[02:21] <Geo> ya
[02:21] <Geo> I think you just mark it as bootable in grub
[02:21] <tsimonq2> Can you get me a pastebin of your /etc/fstab pretty please?
[02:21] <Geo> unfortunately no
[02:21] <Geo> cant get out to the internet
[02:22] <tsimonq2> Eek
[02:22] <Geo> but its what i just told you
[02:22] <Geo> /dev/md0  /   ext3 .....
[02:22] <Geo> etc
[02:22] <tsimonq2> Ok
[02:22] <Geo> you treat the md0 disk the same as any other disk
[02:22] <Geo> so dont stress over it
[02:23] <tsimonq2> Ok
[02:24] <tsimonq2> But is your /\boot separate?
[02:25] <Geo> I don't have a /boot listed
[02:26] <tsimonq2> So then how is GRUB set up?
[02:27] <seth> ?
[02:28] <Led_Zeppelin> hey
[02:28] <Led_Zeppelin> trying to setup my sound amp with ubuntu. I know it used to work before. Its being deteched. Just no sound coming out of it.
[02:30] <iresf> emulator: ERROR: Could not load OpenGLES emulation library [lib64OpenglRender]: lib64OpenglRender.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory?
[02:34] <Geo> tsimonq2: I used grub to set md0 as the bootable drive, I think?
[02:34] <Geo> Idont recall
[02:35] <Geo> but thats what mine looks like
[02:39] <tsimonq2> iresf: When are you getting that?
[02:39] <iresf> now
[02:39] <tsimonq2> After doing what?
[02:39] <tsimonq2> Executing what command?
[02:39] <Ben64> iresf: you should find the support option for that program
[02:39] <iresf> after    ./emulator64-x86 -avd   avdname
[02:40] <blackflow> is /etc/default/lxd-bridge no longer existing for LXD bridge setups on 16.10?
[02:42] <blackflow> all the documentation points to that file, but it's gone. is this yet another in the series of RandomUbuntuBreakages(tm) that is occuring every 6 months?
[02:43] <tsimonq2> Hey now, not everything breaks if you stay on the development release... :P
[02:43] <tsimonq2> (kidding)
[02:54] <donjuan> can help me http://dpaste.com/0ZVGQAB
[02:56] <kk4ewt> donjuan,  then #centos for you
[02:57] <Bashing-om> donjuan: "right in CentOS " We here in this channel do not support Centos .
[02:57] <donjuan> kk4ewt, Bashing-om sorry no problems os, just want to know the command bash
[02:58] <donjuan> no i change centos with ubuntu :D
[03:04] <John[Lisbeth]> On many of my ubuntu machines I seem to have trouble installing gforth and emacs at the same time. I am told these conflict, but on my freebsd system I can install them both just fine
[03:07] <MDTech> hello
[03:09] <Mahjongg> SchrodingersScat, thank you
[03:10] <MDTech> I am trying to install ubuntu on an ext4 system with a separate /boot partition
[03:11] <MDTech> but it says the bootloader could not be installed
[03:11] <Blue1> MDTech:  where device are you trying to install the bootloader onto?
[03:11] <xangua> MDTech: you mean grub?
[03:11] <Blue1> what
[03:11] <MDTech> yea
[03:12] <MDTech> I'm installing grub on /dev/sde1
[03:12] <Blue1> MDTech:  you install grub onto a device, NOT a partition.
[03:13] <Blue1> The MBR is located at the beginning of the hard drive -- not a partition.
[03:13] <MDTech> I selected it from the dropdown box in the installer
[03:14] <Blue1> MDTech:  This may/may not help:  http://www.pkill-9.com/recovering-ubuntudebian-linux-after-a-windows-installhiccup/
[03:21] <cfhowlett> !ping
[03:32] <Mahjongg> nmcli connection show displays two connections. wired and wireless. wireless seems to connect automatically on boot. wired gets connected after a long while. wireless gets disconnected after a long while. not necessarily at the same time. Can you provide some insight by any chance?
[03:38] <tsimonq2> Mahjongg: Hello, could you please PM me your complete /etc/network/interfaces ?
[03:38] <tsimonq2> Mahjongg: At least in mine, I have my WiFi password...
[03:39] <tsimonq2> Mahjongg: Just playing it safe. :)
[03:39] <Mahjongg> tsimonq2, not much in it, auto lo and iface lo inet loopback, two lines that's all
[03:40] <tsimonq2> Mahjongg: Oh, ok.
[03:40] <tsimonq2> Mahjongg: Hmm, I don't use Ubuntu Unity, so I can't help you on that, sorry.
[03:41] <Mahjongg> tsimonq2, me neither... ubuntu-desktop is removed here
[03:41] <tsimonq2> Mahjongg: Oh ok, what desktop then?
[03:42] <Mahjongg> tsimonq2, no desktop
[03:42] <Mahjongg> this is a remote machine only terminal access
[03:42] <tsimonq2> Hmm
[03:42] <tsimonq2> How do you connect to the Internet on that machine then?
[03:44] <Bashing-om> Mahjongg: Who controls networking ? ' dpkg -l network-manager ' .
[03:44] <tsimonq2> Good idea Bashing-om
[03:45] <Mahjongg> this is a ubuntu-desktop iso installation, set ssid and pass during installation. remodev ubuntu-desktop later and also autoremoved packages required by ubuntu-desktop
[03:45] <Mahjongg> ii  network-manager
[03:45] <Mahjongg> nmcli works
[03:46] <Mahjongg> just not sure how to set wired as default connection. appears like wired connection doesn't get connected on boot
[03:46] <Mahjongg> only after a while, sporadically
[03:48] <Bashing-om> Mahjongg: working toward having  "you" control networking . Does /etc/NetworkManager/NetworkManager.conf exist ?
[03:48] <Mahjongg> Bashing-om, it exists
[03:49] <Mahjongg> managed=false is this why, sporadic behaviour
[03:50] <Mahjongg> also, this was working before reboot sudo nmcli d connect enp1s0
[03:50] <Mahjongg> now I get this: Error: Failed to add/activate new connection: Connection 'enp1s0' is not available on the device enp1s0 at this time.
[03:56] <Bashing-om> Mahjongg: That is a good possibility .. set it to true and insure you have both WIFI and the wired connections defined similar: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23596701/ for the config file /etc/network/interfaces .
[03:56] <cfhowlett> !ping
[04:03] <Bashing-om> Mahjongg: your file should have your interface name ( enp1s0 ??) in place of my eth1 .and also I fo not have WTFI listed in mine ,
[04:03] <Bashing-om> f0/do*
[04:03] <Mahjongg> Bashing-om, yeah, noticed that and corrected in mine but I after reboot I cannot ssh for some reason, ping works
[04:03] <Mahjongg> checking...
[04:04] <Bashing-om> Mahjongg: ' ip route show ' to see the name .
[04:05] <Mahjongg> Bashing-om, I guess it was fs checking or something, ssh works now
[04:06] <Mahjongg> checking which conenctions are on
[04:07] <Mahjongg> Bashing-om, yeah, appears like both wired and wireless are on now after config file changes you suggested
[04:07] <Mahjongg> I'll use nmcli radio to turn wireless radio off and reboot to see if wired will be the only one
[04:08] <Bashing-om> Mahjongg: Check ' ping -c3 <IP_ADDRESS> ' ping -c3 ubuntu.com ' .
[04:09] <Mahjongg> pinging out from the box works, normally.
[04:09] <Mahjongg> pinging to box also works
[04:09] <Mahjongg> ifconfig -a shows that only the wireless one got an IP
[04:09] <Mahjongg> I shouldn;t turn the radio off yet.
[04:10] <Bashing-om> Mahjongg: What I am concerned with is if we must also define DNS .. I not too sure 'bout that .
[04:10] <Mahjongg> 64 bytes from <IP_ADDRESS>: icmp_seq=2 ttl=55 time=15.9 ms
[04:10] <Mahjongg> 64 bytes from ovinnik.canonical.com (<IP_ADDRESS>): icmp_seq=2 ttl=52 time=86.8 ms
[04:11] <Bashing-om> narinder`: :) should then be golden ^ .
[04:12] <Bashing-om> Mahjongg: ^^ sorry narinder`
[04:12] <Mahjongg> Bashing-om, the reason why enp1s0 didn't get an IP on boot is beacuse I did not tell nmcli to connect?
[04:13] <Mahjongg> nmcli connection show --active lists both, but only the wireless nic got IP
[04:14] <Bashing-om> Mahjongg: Above my skill set to have both active at the same time . I am not too skilled with WIFI :(
[04:18] <Mahjongg> Bashing-om, thank you for all your help
[04:18] <Mahjongg> I'll try reading the fm :)
[04:22] <MDTech-us_MAN> hello
[04:22] <MDTech-us_MAN> I managed to install ubuntu on a btrfs volume
[04:22] <roach00_> hi
[04:23] <MDTech-us_MAN> but when I start it I see a blank purple screen for a few seconds and then the screen turns off
[04:24] <MDTech-us_MAN> and thats it.
[04:24] <MDTech-us_MAN> any ideas?
[04:27] <Mahjongg> I suspect this may be a jme module issue
[04:28] <Mahjongg> dmesg | grep enp1s0 has some output such as IPv6: ADDRCONF(NETDEV_UP): enp1s0: link is not ready
[04:28] <Mahjongg> lsmod shows jme loaded
[04:28] <Mahjongg> for my JMicron Technology Corp. JMC250 PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet Controller [197b:0250] (rev 11)
[04:31] <BlackDalek> I have a disk pulled from a Windows 10 laptop. I want to access files from it by plugging it externally into my Ubuntu 16.04 USB port. It doesn't want to mount. It says "windows is hibernated, refused to mount"
[04:32] <BlackDalek> any way to get around that?
[04:32] <BlackDalek> Do I need to set some kind of mount options?
[04:34] <Bashing-om> BlackDalek: plig it back into the Windows box and shut the machine down .. such that fast start " - hibernation -
[04:34] <Bashing-om> is not a factor .
[04:35] <BlackDalek> ok
[04:42] <RedKorvo> Hey guys. I'm having an issue where modprobe -r NameOfWifiDriver hangs the whole computer, forcing a restart. Any ideas? Ubuntu 16.04.
[04:53] <RedKorvo> anyone still up, or is this place usually this dead at midnight EST?
[04:53] <Sean_McG> I'm still up, even though it's midnight here
[04:55] <RedKorvo> ah, i was just wondering because no one responded. If no one has an answer I get it though.
[04:55] <Sean_McG> I joined after you asked whatever it was
[04:56] <RedKorvo> oh lol. here it is:
[04:56] <RedKorvo> Hey guys. I'm having an issue where modprobe -r NameOfWifiDriver hangs the whole computer, forcing a restart. Any ideas? Ubun
[04:56] <Sean_McG> oh, ugh.
[04:58] <RedKorvo> yeah. I thought Linux was supposed to be really hard to lock up. Guess not =P
[04:58] <Sean_McG> drivers are always another story
[05:01] <glitchd_> if i copied my linux partition to a usb, is it possible to boot it in a virtualbox machine?
[05:01] <RedKorvo> yup. it's weird though, this wifi adapter is supposedly super famous among the networking crowd for white hat hacking etc. I'm trying to use it with Hak5's Wireshark tutorials, but it won't go into monitor mode. No fix so far.
[05:03] <Sean_McG> glitchd_: not sure, it might have to be specially prepared for that. I have a bootable USB key from work that I want to do the same thing with (rather than having to reboot the machine).
[05:04] <RedKorvo> brb, gonna try somthing that will kill my connection.
[05:06] <ablest> glitchd_, they sell live cd ubuntu on usb drive i think so yes
[05:17] <glitchd> thats not quite my situation..
[05:19] <glitchd> i bought a new hard drive. i copied my entire linux partition to my external hard drive for backup. installed the new hard drive. installed everything i need to install. but i realized i forgot to export my bookmarks from chromium. so i would like to boot the old hard drive in a virtualmachine to access chromium and get the bookmarks.
[05:20] <kk4ewt> did you copy your /home
[05:20] <glitchd> kk4ewt, i copied the entire partition with dd
[05:20] <glitchd> so yes.
[05:21] <cfhowlett> eh, hold up there
[05:21] <kk4ewt> do your bookmarks should still be there
[05:21] <cfhowlett> if you had /home in a dedicated, separate partition ...
[05:21] <Sean_McG> somewhere under ~/.local I would think
[05:21] <glitchd> ive looked and cannot seem to find a bookmark.html file
[05:21] <glitchd> ill have another look right now then
[05:21] <kk4ewt> did you look in chromium
[05:22] <glitchd> lol yes
[05:24] <glitchd> hmm i wonder if i can just launch chromium from the usb drive then..?
[05:25] <Sean_McG> oooh I was wrong... it's in ~/.config/google-chrome/ on my machine
[05:26] <glitchd> Sean_McG, i assume youre using chrome, im using chromium, slightly different i believe..
[05:27] <Sean_McG> indeed
[05:28] <glitchd> eh i figure it out another day, thx guys, much appreciated
[05:31] <freechoice> ubuntu halted on reached target shutdown, any idea
[05:32] <TikityTik> Can I get some people to test this project and do a survey? https://github.com/Davidj361/OverseerDemo https://goo.gl/forms/WKNan6MoYrFLF3hz1
[05:32] <freechoice> ubuntu 16.04.1/4.4.0-53-generic #74-Ubuntu
[05:32] <ra21vi> I installed latest 16.04, got lots of issues in it. Most annoying, suspend/resume does not work on laptop. Tried other kernels, but one morning (maybe after an update), it started working.. and then last night again updated, and that issue came back.. Back to day one..
[05:47] <dangitman> has anyone had any luck with virtualizing an ubuntu partition that was originally set up to dual boot? looking for some guidance.
[05:49] <TikityTik> Can anyone test my project and do a survey? I need data for a document.
[05:50] <cfhowlett> TikityTik, ask in #ubuntu-offtopic as that is off-topic in this channel
[05:54] <Sean_McG> OK, sleeptime
[06:10] <Nikesh> I'm trying to set up a new machine with my GPG and ssh keys.. I've done `scp -rp .gnupg/ user@host:~/.gnupg` and also `.ssh/` -- I use `pass` and it works to unlock my GPG, but when I try to `git clone` using ssh, it prompts me to unlock with my passphrase but it doesn't work.. What did I miss to set up?
[06:15] <Benguitar> Am I missing something with Ubuntu, I've been having a difficult time nailing down the random audio popping bug. I have found a few different forum posts addressing it however nothing has seemed to resolve the issue. Anyone here have any advice or input for this?
[06:19] <ra21vi> Benguitar: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/PulseAudio/Troubleshooting#Glitches.2C_skips_or_crackling
[06:20] <ra21vi> Benguitar: i never got sound on linux comparable to win.. and there is reason for it
[06:20] <Benguitar> ra21vi, Reason for it?
[06:23] <RahulAN> Hi Aal
[06:23] <RahulAN> *All
[06:23] <kode54> is that canonical live updates thing $150/y per server, or per account?
[06:23] <RahulAN> I am getting [  598.750962] hub 5-4:1.0: hub_ext_port_status failed (err = -32)
[06:23] <kode54> live patch
[06:23] <kode54> livepatch
[06:24] <RahulAN> and my usb mouse and keyboard is not working
[06:24] <xangua> kode54: you can use it in your personal computers, up to three I believe
[06:24] <kode54> yes
[06:24] <kode54> I was considering what I'd do if I ended up activating it on all my VPS accounts
[06:24] <kode54> I've got like four of those
[06:25] <RahulAN> What does it mean ?
[06:26] <xangua> I remember there was also a red hat tool to patch the kernel live
[06:26] <ra21vi> Benguitar: because hardware manufacturers develops best driver, and sadly for windows only.. linux has evolution on generic solution, to work on most compatible.
[06:26] <Benguitar> ra21vi, Hmm. :(
[06:33] <tacomaster> I have having an issue getting samba set up correctly but the samba channel is dead. Basically i see see the share but i cant connect to it even though i have already said a user i want for the share and made a password for that new account
[06:37] <hateball> tacomaster: whats the smb host and guest OS? maybe the guest is trying to use smb3 and the host only supports smb2
[06:37] <tacomaster> hateball: I am using windows 7 as the one to access and raspbian as the server
[06:38] <hateball> Well Raspbian is not supported here to start with, so
[06:52] <Nikesh> Can anyone guide me on transfering my GPG and SSH keys to a new machine? I've tried various ways of copying over the `.ssh/` and `.gnupg` directories with `scp` to the new machine and it somewhat works in that I can unlock my passwords with `pass`, but doing e.g. `git clone` with ssh it asks me to unlock with my passphrase and it keeps failing when I input the passphrase. I'm not sure which step I might have missed
[06:54] <wafflejock> Nikesh, are you sure git is using the correct ssh key?
[06:54] <TragicM3LON> anyone familiar with RAID?
[06:55] <wafflejock> Nikesh, looks like you can specify a particular key to use in a couple ways depending on git version http://stackoverflow.com/questions/4565700/specify-private-ssh-key-to-use-when-executing-shell-command-with-or-without-ruby
[06:55] <Nikesh> wafflejock: I don't know.. but it seems to be, it as it matches the email I have set up for GPG
[06:56] <wafflejock> Nikesh, if you have the original public key can check if that is on the server
[06:57] <Nikesh> wafflejock: Yes I have the original on this machine and it works
[06:57] <Nikesh> maybe `ssh-add` - from the StackOverthrow thread you linked
[07:00] <TragicM3LON> is there a command to check the status of a /dev/sda even if it doesn't show up with fdisk?
[07:01] <Nikesh> wafflejock: I may have found the issue.. I run `ssh-add` and it error message that the permissions for `id_rsa` are too open and it will be ignored
[07:02] <Nikesh> Hmm..
[07:03] <inerkick> Hi. Need a help. I got ubuntu 14.04 running. But my arrows keys when pressed for longer duration using any editing or scrolling, doesn't work. It just moves one character or once
[07:03] <Nikesh> That gets closer as it now asks me for the passphrase for `id_rsa` but it keeps failing when I input the passphrase - and I don't think it's a typo because it works with `pass`
[07:03] <inerkick> I need to keep pressing multiple times those keys to move up or down or horizontal
[07:05] <inerkick> Kindly help
[07:06] <Nikesh> Ah!
[07:06] <Nikesh> I was getting confused about the difference between the ssh-passphrase and the GPG passphrase
[07:07] <wafflejock> Nikesh, ah okay cool
[07:07] <wafflejock> Nikesh, for the permissions mine are all just read write for the owner and nothing for anyone else
[07:07] <Nikesh> Well I guess not all the way there
[07:08] <Nikesh> I was able to run `ssh-add` but my gpg passphrase won't unlock
[07:08] <Nikesh> it shows `gpg: decryption failed: No secret key`
[07:08] <Nikesh> I thought that copying `.gnupg/` to the new machine would work for that
[07:09] <wafflejock> Nikesh, hmm sorry not familiar enough with gpg to help you debug that really
[07:09] <Nikesh> maybe there is something similar for gpg as `ssh-add`
[07:09] <Nikesh> wafflejock: OK but thanks!
[07:13] <wafflejock> Nikesh, no prob good luck
[07:28] <apinsv> can anyone help in configuring a usb scanner as a network scanner in ubuntu 16.04
[07:31] <apinsv> can anyone help in configuring a usb scanner as a network scanner in ubuntu 16.04
[07:31] <hateball> !patience | apinsv
[07:33] <Nikesh> wafflejock: Most of my problems I think originated from misunderstanding when it was asking me for the ssh passphrase or the GPG passphrase - complicated by the fact that on my old machine I had let gnome-keyring pass these in when I am logged in so I never really had to input them but just a few times in the past
[07:33] <Nikesh> I've got it all sorted now luckily
[08:15] <nikolam> hi I have strange problem, after update from some week ago
[08:16] <nikolam> I use qemu/kvm, with virtual machines made with libvirt
[08:24] <nikolam> and I have 2 bridged interfaces with dhcp, that are connected to 2 VMs
[08:24] <nikolam> but now after update, just one interface with it's VM is alive
[08:25] <nikolam> there arfe 2 network cards, and every bridged interface is connected to it's own hardware bridge
[08:26] <nikolam> https://bpaste.net/show/b33b7effe432
[08:27] <nikolam> https://bpaste.net/show/31311ff11b5b
[08:28] <nikolam> will be back
[08:36] <TragicM3LON> anyone familiar with zfs pools in ubuntu server?
[08:38] <ducasse> TragicM3LON: just ask your question, please
[08:39] <TragicM3LON> my server is configured in RAIDZ, and after rebooting the RAIDZ isn't mounting. After checking it, it looks like one of the drives isn't showing up? i need help on how to figure out if the HDD is really dead or what?
[08:40] <TragicM3LON> fdisk shows all my /dev minus one
[08:40] <ducasse> TragicM3LON: so the device node is not visible at all?
[08:41] <TragicM3LON> so /dev/sda doesn't show, but the others do yes
[08:41] <ducasse> TragicM3LON: anything in the logs?
[08:42] <TragicM3LON> the only thing i got was when i did zpool import, it shows the pool as DEGRADED
[08:42] <TragicM3LON> so i guess, sda - sde show, but sdf says UNAVAIL
[08:43] <Sachiru> That appears to be a dead disk
[08:43] <ducasse> have you checked cable etc?
[08:43] <TragicM3LON> ya i checked the cable on all the drives
[08:44] <wedgie> if it's raidznit should still be able to mount with one disk gone...
[08:44] <TomyWork> hi
[08:44] <TragicM3LON> but i would still need to get that drive replaced right?
[08:45] <wedgie> of course
[08:45] <TomyWork> I'm using "xrandr --output DP-0 --auto --pos 1920x0 --output eDP-1 --auto --pos 0x120 --primary" (auto being 1920x1080 on eDP-1 and 1920x1200 on DP-0) to set up my display parameters.
[08:45] <TomyWork> eDP-1's background black (it should be my wallpaper with some icons on it) and it's not possible to maximize windows there by dragging them to the top of the screen. What I do notice is this line in "xrandr" output: "Screen 0: minimum 8 x 8, current 3840 x 1200, maximum 16384  x 16384"
[08:45] <ducasse> TragicM3LON: fast, before another one fails
[08:46] <TragicM3LON> so my other question, is there a way to find out which one of the HDD's is the one that failed? it's in a fractal node 304 case, so i literally have no clue which one it would be
[08:46] <TomyWork> the problem persists if i set the same resolution on both devices via the kde display configuration control
[08:47] <ducasse> TragicM3LON: /dev/disk/by-id/...
[08:47] <TragicM3LON> is the Disk Identifier written on the actual HDD label?
[08:47] <TragicM3LON> is that how i would figure that out?
[08:48] <ducasse> TragicM3LON: it usually includes the serial no
[08:48] <TragicM3LON> ok
[08:48] <TomyWork> out of curiosity, is "fractal node 304 case" a brand name or a movie reference?
[08:48] <TragicM3LON> don't think so TomyWork
[08:48] <TragicM3LON> Fractal makes the case
[08:48] <TragicM3LON> FractalDesign
[08:49] <TomyWork> well it could have been a fractal of a problem :)
[08:49] <TomyWork> so intractable that it's hard to figure out
[08:49] <wedgie> TragicM3LON: smartctl should be abke to show you the serials for sll the disks that are still there... so orocess of elimination
[08:49] <TragicM3LON> ok
[08:50] <TomyWork> can't you power down the defective disk?
[08:50] <TomyWork> and see which one stopped vibrating?
[08:50] <wedgie> and while you're rummaging around you may want to make note of all of the serials and their physical locations for next time
[08:50] <TragicM3LON> wedgie ok
[08:50] <TragicM3LON> thanks
[08:50] <TragicM3LON> ducasse thank you as well
[08:51] <TragicM3LON> what would be the command for smartctl to show the serials?
[08:51] <wedgie> smartctl -a /dev/xxx
[08:52] <TragicM3LON> cool thanks
[08:53] <wedgie> TragicM3LON: also look into setting up regular smart tests... every few weeks should be fine. can help flag problems before it fails outright
[08:54] <TragicM3LON> how do i go about setting that up? when the new drive comes in, what do i do to set that up?
[08:54] <TragicM3LON> wedgie also, when i get the replacement drive, it's not a hard process to rebuild the database is it?
[08:57] <wedgie> nah: ''zpool replace <poolname> /dev/xxx'' where xxx is the new device name. This assumes that the dead disk is already gone
[08:58] <TragicM3LON> ok
[08:58] <wedgie> TragicM3LON: is your pool configured with device names or UUID's?
[08:58] <TragicM3LON> tbh, i really don't know anymore
[08:58] <TragicM3LON> i set it up like 10 months ago
[08:58] <wedgie> check ''zpool status''   If it showx sda sdb etc then it is not
[08:59] <wedgie> not set up for UUID's that is
[08:59] <TragicM3LON> when i do zpool status it says no pools available
[09:00] <wedgie> oh. ... you said you did zfs import... was this a pool that you were moing from somewhere else or was it working on this system before?
[09:02] <TragicM3LON> it was working before
[09:03] <TragicM3LON> yesterday, i rebooted the server, and then i couldn't ssh remotely into it. Got home and checked it, and i guess that's when that hdd crashed
[09:08] <wedgie> TragicM3LON: hmm. Starting to approach the limits of my experience with this. You might head over to #zfsonlinux for more expert help with this
[09:08] <TragicM3LON> alright, i got the Serials for the 5 that are working, here's to hoping the one that died is still covered by the warranty
[09:08] <TragicM3LON> wedgie i appreciate the help, I'm just gonna pull this one out, and send it back
[09:09] <TragicM3LON> thanks again
[09:09] <codepoetn> hey, i need a little help
[09:09] <wedgie> it may be worth ploping it in another computer just to make sure the disk is really bad and it wasn't just a bad cable or something
[09:11] <ikevin> codepoetn, ask your question
[09:11] <codepoetn> i'm on x-chat gnome and i've joined 3 channels : ubuntu, joomla and ubuntu-unregged. now if i type QUIT command , it signs-me-off  from all the channels. Is there a way to quit fro particular channel?
[09:11] <ikevin> codepoetn, type /part
[09:12] <TomyWork> codepoetn ctrl-w closes the current window
[09:12] <TomyWork> works in your browser, too :)
[09:12] <ikevin> codepoetn, or you can shift+click on the channel name
[09:12] <evenflows> hi, ubuntu 14.04, is there a way to disable all usb devices alltogether without rebooting the machine?
[09:12] <codepoetn> like [/channelName Quit] ?
[09:13] <ikevin> codepoetn, no, /part
[09:13] <TomyWork> codepoetn go to the channel and press ctrl-w
[09:14] <codepoetn> Thanks everyone! It worked. Also X-chat Gnome provde interactive X button on top-right-corner to directly close any discussion :)
[09:15] <TomyWork> I'm on a dell laptop with nvidia/intel graphics. i think it's called optimus or prime or something. there's the nvidia control panel, that only lists my dvi-attached screen, but neither the integrated screen nor a VGA-attached screen.
[09:15] <TomyWork> i could say "screw it" and only use the kde control panel (or xrandr) to set up my screens, but then i get weird problems
[09:16] <TomyWork> the integrated screen is black and i can
[09:16] <TomyWork> the integrated screen is black and i can't maximize things on it
[09:16] <TomyWork> i can move windows to it and interact with them, but something is clearly broken there
[09:22] <Triffid_Hunter> TomyWork: see what xrandr says
[09:24] <TomyWork> Triffid_Hunter what should i look out for?
[09:29] <TomyWork> Triffid_Hunter http://paste.ubuntu.com/23597557/ here's what xrandr says
[09:29] <evenflows> hi, ubuntu 14, i have a usb connected on bus 5 device 5 and would like to unbind it from the bus, how can i do this?
[09:30] <TomyWork> evenflows simply pulling the plug is not an option?
[09:30] <evenflows> no
[09:30] <evenflows> some tests need this feature
[09:30] <TomyWork> "tests"? "feature"?
[09:31] <evenflows> nvm, i just need to unload it so i wont even see the device
[09:31] <evenflows> is that possible in ubuntu?
[09:31] <hateball> evenflows: you can power down the usb port if you like
[09:31] <hateball> evenflows: is it a disk device? if so you could just unmount it
[09:31] <evenflows> no, its an android board
[09:32] <evenflows> zynq board sorry
[09:32] <evenflows> how do i power off the usb port?
[09:33] <TomyWork> evenflows you're mentioning new context in every single line. maybe step back and describe what you're trying to achieve? i assume you want to write automated tests for a certain piece of software?
[09:33] <hateball> evenflows: see this post http://stackoverflow.com/a/12675749
[09:35] <evenflows> tomywork, tbh i dont know the full request, i was just asked to have an option from cli to enable/disable usb
[09:35] <evenflows> thanks hateball
[09:40] <TomyWork> Triffid_Hunter http://paste.ubuntu.com/23597557/ here's what xrandr says in nvidia mode and here it is in intel mode: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23597586/
[09:41] <TomyWork> same connected devices, as you can see, the hdmi-connected screen is gone
[09:42] <TomyWork> but i need my hdmi connector for our ceiling-mounted projectors
[09:44] <TomyWork> so right now i can choose between power-saving mode (intel), where my integrated display and vga-connected screen works and performance mode (nvidia), where the hdmi port (and the display port too, i guess) works
[09:47] <hateball> TomyWork: it's not a hardware issue either? such as hdmi only being available to the nvidia chip?
[09:47] <hateball> I dont really know much about hybrid gpus so
[09:49] <TomyWork> hateball that could be the case... i dont really think that dell would make a laptop where i cant use my power-hungry games err i mean CAD software on my laptop's internal display
[09:50] <Triffid_Hunter> TomyWork: looks fine to me, both say HDMI disconnected
[09:50] <TomyWork> so one would think that at last the integrated display would work properly when using performance mode
[09:50] <hateball> TomyWork: oh so that doesnt work either? That's... weird
[09:51] <TomyWork> Triffid_Hunter well i have a monitor connected to HDMI though :)
[09:51] <TomyWork> hateball well it displays things, but it's weird
[09:51] <hateball> TomyWork: which version of ubuntu + chipset/driver are you using?
[09:51] <TomyWork> the desktop background and icons are missing and while i can move windows there, i cant maximize them on that screen
[09:51] <hateball> TomyWork: might be you have such new hardware that an updated driver from the PPA is needed for proper operation
[09:52] <TomyWork> hateball 14.04, almost patches from last week or something
[09:52] <TomyWork> nvidia-367 driver from trusty-updates
[09:52] <TomyWork> 367.57-0ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS>
[09:53] <TomyWork> hateball how do i get the chipset version?
[09:53] <TomyWork> 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation GK106GLM [Quadro K2100M] (rev ff) (prog-if ff)         !!! Unknown header type 7f
[09:54] <TomyWork> i think i need to switch to performance mode first :)
[09:54] <TomyWork> brb
[09:57] <TomyWork> hateball http://paste.ubuntu.com/23597631/ here's what lspci -vvv says about the nvidia chip
[10:00] <hateball> TomyWork: well, you could always try the 370 or even 375 (beta) driver from nvidia PPA
[10:00] <hateball> !ppa
[10:01] <hateball> TomyWork: A oneliner for that: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:graphics-drivers/ppa && sudo apt update && sudo apt install nvidia-370
[10:01] <hateball> TomyWork: should things go all borked you can always "sudo apt install nvidia-367" again
[10:06] <TomyWork> hateball you mean they finally fixed it?
[10:07] <hateball> TomyWork: fixed what?
[10:07] <TomyWork> the problem i described
[10:08] <hateball> TomyWork: Like I said I dont really know about hybrid gpus. Release notes for 370 and 375 seem to have fixes for such things, but I dont know personally
[10:09] <TomyWork> sounds promising :)
[10:09] <hateball> TomyWork: anyhow, it doesnt cost anything to try, can always revert to the supported 367
[10:09] <TomyWork> let me test their claim :)
[10:09] <hateball> I use 370, but that is on an nvidia only desktop, and it's fine
[10:11] <TomyWork> hateball btw, "apt install"? what happened to "apt-get install"?
[10:14] <hateball> TomyWork: apt is the new kid on the block
[10:14] <hateball> shiny progress bars and what not
[10:15] <TomyWork> ah
[10:15] <TomyWork> so it's more than an alias
[10:15] <Nikesh> Where do I permanently add something like `acpi_osi= acpi_backlight=native` to my GRUB config? So far I hit `e` each time at the GRUB menu to edit the entry and add this :S
[10:16] <ducasse> Nikesh: /etc/default/grub - the GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT line
[10:18] <ducasse> Nikesh: (then run update-grub)
[10:18] <realies> 16.04 split my screen in 2 and xrandr shows DP-2.9 and DP-28 connected
[10:18] <realies> *2.8
[10:19] <realies> any clues how to restore to default single monitor config?
[10:19] <iresf> hello everyone
[10:19] <iresf> anyone know why android-studio   ( java)   take 100% cpu to build project ?
[10:21] <TomyWork> hateball for some reason it didnt select the recommended packages libcuda1-370 and nvidia-opencl-icd-370 on its own, even though it removed the -367 variants of those. i added them to the install line
[10:21] <TomyWork> also, shiny
[10:22] <OerHeks> iresf, is that bad? or should your system just use 90% to give you a feeling that it will be responsive?
[10:22] <OerHeks> it would be bad when your system was idle..
[10:22] <iresf> OerHeks : it is very bad
[10:23] <hateball> iresf: renice the process then
[10:23] <OerHeks> iresf, and 100% is for 1 cpu, how many cores do you have and what is their load?
[10:24] <iresf> 4 core cpus
[10:29] <Nikesh> ducasse: Thanks! Can I have more than one 'command' on the line?
[10:29] <ducasse> Nikesh: yes
[10:29] <Nikesh> ducasse: I'd like to add two things, `acpi_osi= acpi_backlight=native` and `i915.enable_execlists=0`
[10:29] <pandapan> Hello everyone, Whats the best way to have a restricted SSH user (with no SFTP access) to usa a command on a file and that file only?
[10:29] <TomyWork> brb rebooting with new driver
[10:33] <Nikesh> ducasse: Thank you!
[10:33] <TomyWork> hateball 370 didnt work :/
[10:38] <xsuper> help
[10:39] <xsuper> anyone here ?
[10:39] <ducasse> !ask | xsuper
[10:40] <xsuper> package 'linux-headers-4.4.0-40-generic' is not installed and no information is available
[10:42] <Ben64> xsuper: ok?
[10:43] <xsuper> Ben64 what ?
[10:47] <Ben64> xsuper: you gave a statement instead of asking something
[10:49] <xsuper> my question is why im having this statement? and how can i fix it?
[10:49] <Ben64> what is the actual issue
[10:50] <yocs0000> hi everybody! Anyone with experince in tethered shooting with caeras on ubuntu or kubuntu?
[10:52] <OerHeks> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/xenial/amd64/linux-headers-4.4.0-40-generic >> Removed from disk on 2016-10-03.
[10:53] <Ben64> yocs0000: find out by asking a question
[10:53] <OerHeks> xsuper, i guess you run an old kernel , i am @ 4.4.0-53-generic #74-Ubuntu
[10:54] <OerHeks> sudo apt update && sudo apt dist-upgrade # should give you the latest packages
[10:57] <xsuper> i did  sudo apt dist-upgrade but still showing me (The package linux-headers-4.4.0-40 needs to be reinstalled, but I can't find an archive for it.)
[11:03] <Ben64> xsuper: again, what is the actual issue
[11:04] <xsuper> i don't get updates, why?
[11:05] <Ben64> gotta know the actual issue in order to solve it
[11:06] <OerHeks> pastebin the upgrade output on paste.ubuntu.com
[11:06] <tumulte> Hi
[11:06] <OerHeks> and why do you need those headers, installed a videodriver?
[11:07] <tumulte> I know firewire is pretty outdated. But maybe someone knows how to grant realtime permission to a FW soundcard… maybe (16.04)
[11:07] <yocs0000> Ben64: sorry?
[11:08] <Ben64> yocs0000: you can't get an answer without a question, at least as far as we understand causality
[11:09] <OerHeks> tethered shooting with caeras?
[11:10] <meta-coder> OerHeks: It is so lame that paste.ubuntu.com asks to sign in to download the raw paste.
[11:10] <xsuper> i have been telling you that im missing linux-headers-4.4.0-40 and without it i cant get updates. did you get what is my issue?
[11:10] <OerHeks> why raw? standard is fine
[11:10] <Ben64> xsuper: so when you turn on the computer, a black screen comes up, only with the text "missing linux-headers-4.4.0-40" ?
[11:11] <OerHeks> raw txt files can be exploited, see debian or fedora paste sites
[11:11] <Ben64> xsuper: we can't see what you see, we only know what you tell us, which is not enough to diagnose your problem
[11:12] <yocs0000> Ben64: I asked a question!
[11:12] <Ben64> yocs0000: and the answer to your actual question is either yes or no, which isn't helpful at all
[11:13] <xsuper> i can run the OS but i cant lunch software updater, and it give me a crash report saying (linux-headers-4.4.0-40 needs to be reinstalled)
[11:13] <meta-coder> OerHeks: You mean  curl | sh  ?
[11:13] <yocs0000> Ben64: so what do you use?
[11:13] <Ben64> xsuper: pastebin it all
[11:18] <OerHeks> meta-coder, something like that, pasting is free, but limited to avoid abuse and claims
[11:19] <hateball> TomyWork: "didnt work" as in at all, or same issue?
[11:19] <iresf> why android studio and gradle  on ubuntu 16.04 to build is faster than ubuntu 14.04  ?
[11:20] <Hounddog> Good Morning. I need to set Path environments without needing to relog. where should i place this then? /etc/environment or /etc/profile or such?
[11:21] <Hounddog> For all users also
[11:24] <TomyWork> hateball same issue
[11:37] <ducasse> Hounddog: you need to change PATH for every user without requiring them to relogin? then you need to manually do so in every individual shell.
[11:38] <Hounddog> ducasse: Why i am doing this is that i have a docker image based on ubuntu and an entry script which exports the path. in the dockerfile i have a healthcheck but that gets executed with root
[11:41] <geirha> How is that related to /etc/environment and /etc/profile?
[11:41] <yocs0000> sorry, network problems ....
[11:42] <yocs0000> Is there anyone who does tethered shooting with digital cameras on ubuntu (or kubuntu)? What do you use for tethered shooting?
[11:45] <iresf> anyone has used intel x86 Atom and intel X86 Atom _64 system    ?
[11:46] <bazhang> whats the actual question iresf
[11:47] <bazhang> if thats about hardware and polling iresf then use ##hardware
[11:48] <iresf> i have deleted ubuntu 16.04 only for emulatorx86_64 but now it is very   slow than  emulator
[11:49] <bazhang> what is the current version of ubuntu you are on iresf
[12:04] <Hounddog> geirha: cause i think you can use environment to put the paths in there directly
[12:08] <tsglove> Hello.
[12:12] <ducasse> Hounddog: you can set the path in /etc/profile, but you need to relogin (or source the file) for it to take effect
[12:16] <blackflow> anyone using LXD on 16.10? there's no /etc/defaults/lxd-bridge. Is that file used but just missing, or is something else used? It's referred to by LXD guides, for setting up the bridge
[12:17] <blackflow> Or maybe I'm on the wrong path. What I want to do is figure out how to use IPv6 in that some containers use one ipv4, some another, and each with their own ipv6.
[12:18] <Hounddog> ducasse: how about an executable in profile.d?
[12:19] <ducasse> Hounddog: a shell script, you mean?
[12:19] <Hounddog> ducasse: yes as i understand it would be executed for every user
[12:20] <ducasse> Hounddog: just as /etc/profile
[12:20] <akik> blackflow: try to recreate the file with "sudo dpkg-reconfigure -p medium lxd"
[12:21] <akik> blackflow: this comes from 16.04's lxd file
[12:21] <pr0mark> So, I'm root on an ubuntu 16.04.1 install and running the find utility generates nothing but Permission Denied - what should I be looking for
[12:21] <pr0mark> running it from /tmp and desginating the recursive start point at /
[12:21] <blackflow> akik: did so, didn't help
[12:21] <pr0mark> so find / -name
[12:22] <yocs0000> Is there anyone who does tethered shooting with digital cameras on ubuntu (or kubuntu)? What do you use for tethered shooting?
[12:29] <ychaouche> Hello #ubuntu
[12:30] <ychaouche> anyone knows if there's a package for libreoffice with dbus support ?
[12:32] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[12:32] <ychaouche> greetings to you BluesKaj
[12:33] <BluesKaj> hi ychaouche
[12:33] <blackflow> ychaouche: the default is built with dbus support
[12:33] <blackflow> I don't know if any package that can support dbus, isn't built with it
[12:34] <ychaouche> I searched for libreoffice in qdbusviewer but found nothing
[12:34] <ychaouche> nothing for office neither
[12:34] <ychaouche> nor libre
[12:34] <blackflow> ychaouche: well, ldding the binary shows dependency on libdbus
[12:35] <blackflow> ychaouche: what's the actual problem you're having
[12:35] <ychaouche> I would like to get to know its dbus interface and play with it
[12:35] <ychaouche> in particular, find a way to do a "findall" in calc with a shortcut
[12:35] <ychaouche> (keyboard)
[12:36] <blackflow> ychaouche: you're assuming libreoffice is a provider of dbus services, and not just a consumer. did you check the libreoffice documentation?
[12:37] <lkeijser> hi, I wanted to know if the recommended way is to do a release upgrade from 12.04 -> 14.04 or a clean install. This is very opinion based, but that's what I'm looking for :)
[12:37] <ychaouche> blackflow: yep I thought libreoffice was a provider. No I didn't.
[12:37] <blackflow> ychaouche: also, keyboard shortcuts don't sound like something done over dbus
[12:38] <ychaouche> blackflow: no but you can bind them to qdbus commands if you wish through your DE.
[12:38] <blackflow> lkeijser: my opinion: backup data, try upgrade, if it breaks, reinstall :)
[12:38] <ychaouche> blackflow: I already defined some good shortcuts for vlc
[12:38] <blackflow> ychaouche: assuming libreoffice provides such dbus services :) so, better check the docs. a bit offtopic for this chan
[12:39] <ychaouche> sure, but since you asked.
[12:43] <im-so> any good fps, mmorpg games for ubuntu? I dont play much, 1-3 times a week only, but would be nice to play some game on free time.
[12:44] <pdo_fn14> im-so, I think steam would be suitable for you.
[12:45] <im-so> pdo_fn14: nything without steam maby>
[12:46] <ychaouche> im-so: assaultcube can be fun. If you're looking for something original in FPS try tremulous.
[12:46] <im-so> ychaouche: thanks
[12:47] <pdo_fn14> im-so, http://www.penguspy.com/#/mmorpg/free_and_commercial/open_closed/sort=1/view=1/limit=0
[12:52] <tsglove> Anybody here using the Ubuntu Touch?    I just read the news for the OTA 14
[12:56] <ducasse> !touch | tsglove
[12:56] <tsglove> ducasse, nice! Didn't know about that channel.  Checking it out now!
[13:07] <blackflow> the saga of Unusablebuntu continues... lxd init.... error: the network already exsits, when running init with defaults. there's no lxdbr0, so I don't get it what network already exists?
[13:25] <morf> hi guys
[13:26] <morf> i was stupid and let my hdd get full and corrupted ecryptfs / home
[13:26] <morf> and i can't find what should i do on the internets ... is there something like fsck for the ecryptfs?
[13:27] <blackflow> how does a full disk corrupt ecryptfs?  o.O
[13:28] <morf> blackflow: http://pastebin.com/5DX15YyQ the result is something like this ...
[13:29] <morf> well ecryptfs is not corrupted i guess ... but the data inside are bonkers : (
[13:29] <blackflow> morf: but can you mount it? read from it? it's understandable you can't write if the disk is full. I don't think there's any corruption going on, to existing data
[13:29] <morf> hm :/
[13:33] <morf> basically some data after "crash" can't be decrypted... (the page read error from the log)
[14:02] <wdonkey> good morning ! on typical installation, how much space would you allow for a fresh installation if the /home folder is on a remote partition ?
[14:09] <Tachyon_> I am trying to make a shell script to check if a folder exists(or not). this is what I've done so far: http://pastebin.com/UqphbEVV . however, it outputs a negative result in both cases if folder exists or not. what am I doing wrong ? thank you
[14:37] <mrtAkdeniz> Howdy!
[14:37] <mrtAkdeniz> Guys how can I set "default" permission for a folder?
[14:37] <mrtAkdeniz> I mean if a new file created on that folder, it should have same permissions
[14:40] <BlackDex> Tachyon_: What does ls -l in the /boost_1_62_0 output?
[14:41] <Tachyon_> andrei@andrei-desktop:~/libs$ ls boost_1_62_0/
[14:41] <Tachyon_> b2               boost.css      index.htm        more                  stage
[14:41] <Tachyon_> bin.v2           boost.png      index.html       project-config.jam    status
[14:41] <Tachyon_> bjam             bootstrap.bat  INSTALL          project-config.jam.1  tools
[14:41] <Tachyon_> boost            bootstrap.log  Jamroot          project-config.jam.2
[14:41] <Tachyon_> boost-build.jam  bootstrap.sh   libs             project-config.jam.3
[14:41] <Tachyon_> boostcpp.jam     doc            LICENSE_1_0.txt  rst.css
[14:41] <ikevin> mrtAkdeniz, see acl
[14:41] <SonikkuAmerica> !paste | Tachyon_
[14:42] <Tachyon_> BlackDex: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23598637/
[14:42] <Tachyon_> sorry for that
[14:45] <zerous> hi everyone, I know that this isn't the right place to ask but I am planning to join DeMont Fort University UK and I would like to know if there is anyone over here doing any course in DMU at all ...?
[14:45] <BlackDex> Tachyon_: i need with -l
[14:45] <BlackDex> :)
[14:46] <Tachyon_> BlackDex: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23598651/
[14:47] <Tachyon_> BlackDex: I think I did it when I removed the first / like in : "boost_1_62_0/bin.v2/"
[14:47] <BlackDex> strange, you shoudl be able to give a full path
[14:47] <Tachyon_> BlackDex: new question
[14:48] <BlackDex> i thought that maybe the access rights were wrong, because that causes en error also
[14:48] <BlackDex> But those seem fin
[14:48] <BlackDex> e
[14:48] <Tachyon_> BlackDex: if I have this sh: https://github.com/xTachyon/TravisLibTest/blob/master/travisbuild.sh , how can I set it to output what the commands in there.. output
[14:49] <Tachyon_> BlackDex: hmm.. I think I put something too much in that if.. oops
[14:50] <Ajxa_> I know its a wrong channel but is there anyone here that could lend me a hand with unrooting my phone i just have a couple of small questions :D
[14:51] <xangua> You know the answer
[14:52] <BlackDex> Ajxa_: Just use the correct root-app to unroot your phone
[14:53] <Ajxa_> yeah ill find a way somehow, my question was (since the googled results are mixed) do i have to wipe the phone?
[14:54] <Ajxa_> i used the su app to unroot, it finished rebooted, but my applications still say that im rooted (the ones that refuse to run when i am)
[14:55] <BlackDex> set -x should depends on what the goal is why you want to unroot it
[14:55] <BlackDex> check with a su checker app if it still has su access
[14:56] <BlackDex> Ajxa_: Else check http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=900875
[14:56] <Ajxa_> su checker says "Sorry! Root access is not properly installed on this device"
[14:57] <BlackDex> Tachyon_: Sometimes starting the file with "#!/bin/bash -x" works
[14:59] <Ajxa_> is "superoneclick" legit? i could try that :D
[15:00] <BlackDex> Any rooting isn't legit unless the manufactor of the phone provides it
[15:01] <BlackDex> most of the time it voids your warrenty
[15:01] <Tachyon_> BlackDex: thank you
[15:03] <mikeymop> Ajxa_: jump onto #android we can help you out
[15:04] <Ajxa_> BlackDex: i know that, by legit i meant the app thats called "superoneclick"
[15:04] <Ajxa_> not legal
[15:04] <Ajxa_> legit
[15:04] <BlackDex> ah ;)
[15:04] <BlackDex> That i don't know
[15:04] <mikeymop> Ajxa_: the unroot procedure might not have removed su from /system/sbin/
[15:05] <mikeymop> or they stored a value from when you were rooted
[15:05] <BlackDex> Ajxa_: Also sometimes a firmware upgrade from the manufactor via the desktop software unroots it totally
[15:06] <BlackDex> It also could be that if you have any app installed which requires root rights, it could complain
[15:06] <BlackDex> something like greenify for instance
[15:06] <Ajxa_> i have several :/
[15:07] <BlackDex> Some apps check for those apps and then just say your phone is rooted
[15:07] <Ajxa_> i mean i want to unroot just so i can do a systemless root
[15:07] <mikeymop> Ajxa_: do you have a file explorer on your phone with root capabilities?
[15:08] <Ajxa_> mikeymop: im on android if you want to switch there, and yes i have esexplorer although i dont know if the root rights still work since i did the "Unroot" with SuperSU
[15:08] <mikeymop> it's one way to know for sure, i'll msg you on there
[15:09] <OerHeks> Ajxa_, is this a ubuntu-touch support issue?
[15:19] <codepoetn> hey is there a way so that i'm not logged out even if i close my irc client window?
[15:22] <mikeymop> codepoetn: you can use tmux
[15:23] <mikeymop> this will make a virtual terminal session inside your terminal, and instead of exiting you can 'detach'
[15:23] <mikeymop> then later when you arrive you can 'reattach' to your previous tmux session
[15:23] <codepoetn> is that a command?
[15:23] <codepoetn> i mean how am i supposed to use it?
[15:29] <some0ne> hi. i'm trying to use a 3g modem with an ubuntu, but seems like driver are not installed (i read that i need qcserial and some others, but can't figure what to install) (http://pastebin.com/n1Q87aEd). does anyone know what i should install ?
[15:30] <codepoetn> hey, i see freenode on top-left corner of my "x-chat Gnome" application. can anyone tell how to switch to gitter? or am i supposed to download gitter separately?
[15:31] <mikeymop> http://askubuntu.com/questions/767366/using-sierra-mc7304-lte-modem-with-qmi
[15:31] <mikeymop> some0ne: ^^
[15:32] <Pici> codepoetn: They seem to have an IRC bridge, see https://irc.gitter.im/
[15:33] <mikeymop> drivers available here https://mycusthelp.net/SIERRAWIRELESS/_cs/AnswerDetail.aspx?aid=44
[15:33] <some0ne> ok thanks. i already read that topic, but couldn't find drivers. ;)
  i think you should enable auto update option. on my ubuntu 16.04 when i connected my router for the first time to my system it asked for auto installation of required drivers and packages. i clicked on yes, it asked for password i entered it . it was done within minutes
[15:35] <some0ne> i have a 14.04 ubuntu and didn't see the auto update option when connecting my modem
[15:36] <codepoetn> okay! i've not used 14.04 but yes is there a settings option on top right corner of your ubuntu?
[15:36] <codepoetn> if it is there then go to system setting
[15:36] <some0ne> i have a text-only ubuntu
[15:38] <Pici> some0ne: so how are you checking for this 'auto update option'?
[15:38] <codepoetn> in that under system you will find software and updates, click on it you will find additional drivers options, inside it it displays all the drivers that needs to be installed for plugged hardwares, if it is not already installed.
[15:38] <mikeymop> some0ne: can you vnc into it or startx and do it temporarily?
[15:38] <boxrick1> Do the following two commands differ in any way in a preseed?
[15:38] <boxrick1> "partman-lvm partman-lvm/confirm boolean true" & "d-i partman-lvm/confirm boolean true"
[15:38] <boxrick1> Or infact any d-i based commands
[15:39] <Southern_Gentlem> i think he really needs to expand and explain his question more
[15:39] <some0ne> it just crashed, i need to reflash. i'll try to install vnc then
[15:39] <codepoetn> text-only :| sorry then, others might better help
[15:40] <some0ne> isn't the program used to find needed drivers available from commande line ? codepoetn ?
[15:43] <EriC^^> some0ne: sudo ubuntu-drivers list , might help
[15:43] <haxabja> Hi
[15:43] <nrml1> hey guys, do you know off-hand if CVE-2016-8655 affects only HWE enabled machines?
[15:44] <haxabja> So, Ubuntu has a slightly older version of VirtualBox in its repos, but I downloaded and installed it with the latest .deb from VirtualBox's site.
[15:44] <haxabja> Will I get updates from their repo or do I need to add it manually?
[15:45] <codepoetn> Using ubuntu-drivers, the available commands are described below: usage: ubuntu-drivers [-h] [--package-list PATH] <command>List/install driver packages for Ubuntu.positional arguments: <command>            See below optional arguments: -h, --help           show this help message and exit  --package-list PATH  Create file with list of installed packages (in                      autoinstall mode) Available commands:  debug: Pri
[15:45] <codepoetn> nt all available information and debug data about drivers.   autoinstall: Install drivers that are appropriate for automatic installation.  devices: Show all devices which need drivers, and which packages apply to them.  list: Show all driver packages which apply to the current system.
[15:45] <codepoetn> http://askubuntu.com/questions/447521/how-do-you-use-ubuntu-drivers-common-or-software-properties-in-the-command-line
[15:45] <EriC^^> haxabja: it depends if they added their repo, try grep ^ /etc/apt/sources.list /etc/apt/sources.list.d/* and look for their repo
[15:46] <some0ne> thanks to both of you when i'll try it ;)
[15:46] <nrml1> also, isn't HWE for machines that run X environments?
[15:46] <nrml1> really trying to figure out the extent of that vulnerability in my environment =\
[15:48] <tgm4883> nrml1: no, HWE adds new kernel too, which would be for servers too
[15:48] <codepoetn> someone when you find a solution that works, please do share :)
[15:48] <nrml1> ahh
[15:48] <haxabja> I don't see anything in there for VirtualBox, EriC^^.
[15:49] <nrml1> so whether you have HWE or not, you're affected by the USN and require a reboot
[15:49] <tgm4883> haxabja: no, you need to add their repo manually
[15:49] <EriC^^> haxabja: it didn't add it i guess, you'll have to update from their site
[15:49] <Pici> nrml1: Yes, looks like there were HWE and non HWE kernels updated for the CVE: https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-security/cve/2016/CVE-2016-8655.html
[15:49] <haxabja> On their site, they have the following:
[15:49] <haxabja> deb http://download.virtualbox.org/virtualbox/debian xenial contrib     According to your distribution, replace 'xenial' by 'vivid', 'utopic', 'trusty', 'raring', 'quantal', 'precise', 'lucid', 'jessie', 'wheezy', or 'squeeze'.
[15:50] <haxabja> Should I use xenial? I have Ubuntu 16.10.
[15:51] <Pici> haxabja: It looks like they actually support yakkety, despite whatever page you're looking at
[15:51] <EriC^^> haxabja: aha, type echo "deb http://download.virtualbox.org/virtualbox/debian yakkety contrib" | sudo tee /etc/apt/sources.list.d/virtualbox.list
[15:51] <EriC^^> haxabja: use yakkety ^
[15:51] <nrml1> thanks Pici
[15:51] <tgm4883> nrml1: that seems like the incorrect way to think about it. IMO you shouldn't be checking HWE or not, you should be checking if the particular package you have is of a high enough version
[15:51] <haxabja> Pici: I'm looking at: https://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Linux_Downloads
[15:51] <Pici> haxabja: I'm looking at http://download.virtualbox.org/virtualbox/debian/dists/yakkety/ :)
[15:52] <nrml1> tgm4883: which way? my way or Pici's? and we're running 14.04.5 systems with unattended upgrades running
[15:53] <tgm4883> nrml1: check the kernel version you are running, then check the link that Pici provided. See if your version is affected (it probably was) and then update to a fixed version
[15:53] <nrml1> got it ok, makes sense tgm4883
[15:53] <tgm4883> nrml1: saying "i'm running 14.04.5, does this affect me" seems like not enough/not the right information
[15:54] <nrml1> tgm4883: you're right, I just checked the kernel versions
[15:54] <nrml1> looks like they're applied, just need a reboot of ~200 systems lol
[15:54] <tgm4883> nrml1: sounds like a good reason to use the live kernel patching
[15:55] <nrml1> tgm4883: yeah =/
[15:56] <deadghost> so I want to install gogs on my server
[15:56] <nrml1> looks like an upgrade to 16.04 may be in order
[15:57] <deadghost> basically a self-hosted github clone
[15:57] <deadghost> should I make a new user for it?
[15:58] <baldpope> on ubuntu 16.04, it lists apt-cacher 1.7.11 as the latest available, but 1.7.12 appears to be available for 14.04 - and I need to install 1.7.12 to resolve a bug with file extensions - how do I add 1.7.12 ?
[15:58] <baldpope> i'd prefer to install the package, not compile from source
[15:59] <nicomachus> !info apt-cacher
[15:59] <nicomachus> looks like it's 1.7.13 in yakkety
[15:59] <nicomachus> !info apt-cacher xenial
[16:00] <nicomachus> !info apt-cacher trusty
[16:00] <baldpope> hm, my mistake about being in 14.04
[16:00] <baldpope> at any rate, would like to get to at least 1.7.12
[16:00] <nicomachus> baldpope: would 1.7.13 work for your purposes?
[16:00] <baldpope> it would
[16:00] <nicomachus> and you're on xenial?
[16:00] <baldpope> yes
[16:00] <nicomachus> 16.04?
[16:00] <baldpope> fresh instll yesterday
[16:01] <nicomachus> can you upgrade to yakkety? that would be the easiest way.
[16:01] <haxabja> Thanks EriC^^, that worked (after adding the key, ofc).
[16:01] <baldpope> i believe so, just do a release upgrade or ?
[16:02] <baldpope> or re-install?
[16:03] <nicomachus> sudo do-release-upgrade
[16:04] <baldpope> # do-release-upgrade Checking for a new Ubuntu release No new release found
[16:05] <NoImNotNineVolt> you're on an LTS release.
[16:05] <NoImNotNineVolt> to upgrade from an LTS to a non-LTS release, there's an additional hoop to jump through.
[16:05] <NoImNotNineVolt> i don't remember what it is.
[16:06] <baldpope> my mistake - firewall/proxy issue - 1sec
[16:06] <nicomachus> baldpope: you need to go to System Settings -> Software & Updates -> Updates and then select Notify me of a new Ubuntu version: For any new version
[16:07] <baldpope> this is headless
[16:07] <baldpope> no gui
[16:08] <baldpope> fixed proxy issue, but same results
[16:10] <SonikkuAmerica> NoImNotNineVolt , baldpope - I do, pick me! Software and Updates, change "Notify me of a new Ubuntu release" to "For every new version"
[16:10] <SonikkuAmerica> (also hi NoImNotNineVolt , long time no see)
[16:10] <NoImNotNineVolt> indeed, hi :)
[16:11] <some0ne> codepoetn: ubuntu-drivers return nothing and don't install nothing. and lsmod outpout is empty. is there a quick way to see if my kernel support adding drivers ?
[16:11] <baldpope> SonikkuAmerica: I have no gui to select anything from
[16:11] <baldpope> i'm on cli - just running do-release-upgrade and no updates available
[16:11] <NoImNotNineVolt> http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2016/10/how-to-upgrade-to-ubuntu-16-10
[16:12] <baldpope> NoImNotNineVolt: funny you mention that site, I'm already there
[16:12] <SonikkuAmerica> baldpope - oh, without a GUI? Try [ sudo python3-software-properties ]
[16:12] <NoImNotNineVolt> great minds google alike :P
[16:12] <SonikkuAmerica> !info python3-software-properties
[16:13] <baldpope> sudo: python3-software-properties: command not found
[16:14] <codepoetn> some0ne I don't know exactly. Look for the answer on ask-ubuntu. I'm a newbie to linux os. but i find almost all my answers on askubuntu.com
[16:14] <SonikkuAmerica> baldpope - [ sudo apt install software-properties ]
[16:14] <some0ne> ok ;)
[16:15] <baldpope> ePackage software-properties is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[16:15] <SonikkuAmerica> Hmmm... is this a server, by any chance?
[16:15] <SonikkuAmerica> baldpope ^
[16:15] <baldpope> yes
[16:20] <baldpope> if it's an issue with 16.04, i can just download and re-install 16.10 - i've only lost a day
[16:20] <baldpope> not the end of the world
[16:20] <ioria> baldpope, what issue ?
[16:21] <morf> baldpope: there is no such package
[16:21] <morf> there is this: software-properties-common and software-properties-gtk (or whatever ui you have)
[16:21] <baldpope> trying to (at the very least) install apt-cacher 1.7.12+ or do a release-upgrade from 16.04 to 16.10 - but no updates are listed as being available
[16:21] <nicomachus> baldpope: install update-manager-core
[16:21] <tgm4883> baldpope: you need to edit /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades
[16:21] <tgm4883> geez people
[16:22] <nicomachus> then edit /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades and set the variable prompt to Prompt=normal
[16:22] <nicomachus> then sudo do-release-upgrade
[16:22] <baldpope> that did it
[16:22] <nicomachus> err... may need a -d on there
[16:22] <yenclgj5nlw> Hi all. Why systemd-swap is not shipped for 16.10?
[16:22] <tgm4883> nicomachus: no -d, that's bad
[16:22] <ioria> baldpope, grep Prompt /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades
[16:23] <baldpope> prompt was lts, i changed to normal
[16:23] <NoImNotNineVolt> that should do it.
[16:23] <baldpope> yea, appears to be going now
[16:24] <ioria> baldpope,  sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade, first
[16:24] <ioria> baldpope,  ah, too late
[16:24] <baldpope> :D
[16:26] <baecedar> hey guy.. can someone help me with an installation
[16:27] <baecedar> trying to install miro on ubuntu 16.04 but sudo apt-get install miro returns some depends that are not installable
[16:29] <baldpope> ioria: there was a prompt asking to confirm upgraed, i stopped, did the full command you referenced, and then ran upgrade again - appears to be working
[16:29] <ioria> baldpope,  ok
[16:30] <ioria> !info miro trusty
[16:30] <ioria> !info miro xenial
[16:31] <ioria> baldpope, no iro on xenial
[16:31] <ioria> *miro
[16:31] <baecedar> i use http://ppa.launchpad.net/pcf/miro-releases/ubuntu precise main repository
[16:32] <ioria> ho, sorry... baecedar that was for you
[16:32] <baecedar> y i thought so
[16:32] <ioria> baecedar, using a 12.04 ppa ? not a good idea
[16:33] <baecedar> ihm, well i am newbie on ubuntu
[16:33] <_arktos75_> theres no 16.XX repo0 for miro beacedar#
[16:33] <ioria> baecedar, precise is 12.04
[16:34] <baecedar> vlc has lag on hd videos so i found out about miro
[16:35] <ioria> baecedar, yes, here they suggest to use that ppa http://news.tecmint.com/miro-a-free-and-open-source-converter-media-and-internet-television-player-for-linux/
[16:36] <Pici> fwiw: miro depends on an old version of gstreamer that no longer exists in Ubuntu... also its developers have not done any work to update it to support that. see https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=812919
[16:36] <baecedar> y thats where i read about it
[16:36] <baecedar> i see
[16:36] <baecedar> thanks a lot
[16:37] <ioria> baecedar, last update in that ppa is 2012
[16:38] <baecedar> y that bugged me a bit, but i thought mb it was compatible and i was the one doing something wrong
[16:40] <baecedar> still do you have any suggestions about the lag on hd videos?
[16:40] <baldpope> here's an odd one I just stumbled on - i set my shell to bash just now; sudo usermod -s bash baldpoe
[16:40] <_arktos75_> baecedar whats wrong with "video" on 16.04 ?
[16:40] <baldpope> prior to the change, I could log in via ssh using psk
[16:40] <baldpope> after change, it prompts for password and does not accept my password or my psk
[16:41] <ioria> baecedar,  take a look https://launchpad.net/~mc3man/+archive/ubuntu/mpv-tests
[16:41] <baecedar> arktos75_, full screen hd video has some lag although i have installed restricted-extras
[16:42] <evgeniy> I tried installing kubuntu in an arch linux enviroment and got this: https://imgur.com/a/uZaNP
[16:42] <baecedar> ty ioria, i'm having a look now
[16:42] <evgeniy> What might be the cause?
[16:42] <evgeniy> Ohh nevermind. I increased video memory size and enabled 3D acceleration and it now works.
[16:42] <evgeniy> Kinda
[16:42] <evgeniy> I saw some graphics.
[16:47] <nicomachus> evgeniy: is it a vm?
[16:47] <nicomachus> ok yea vbox. make sure you have guest additions installed
[16:50] <yenclgj5nlw> hi all, how to make a swap file on kubuntu 16.10 using systemd?
[16:51] <baecedar> ioria, mpv is really great. Thank you very much, now videos are smoothless
[16:51] <baecedar> much appreciated
[16:52] <ioria> baecedar,  good jo
[16:52] <ioria> *b
[16:52] <Southern_Gentlem> yenclgj5nlw,  no idea what systemd has to do with making a swap file
[16:53] <Southern_Gentlem> yenclgj5nlw, http://askubuntu.com/questions/33697/how-do-i-add-a-swap-partition-after-system-installation
[16:53] <OerHeks> yenclgj5nlw, nothing to do with systemd, just make free space, open gparted, choose new, type linux-swap and you can name the partition "swap" if you like https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SwapFaq
[16:53] <OerHeks> and read futher to activate it
[17:22] <HeXiLeD> hi guys. i am not a ubuntu user but am trying to help a friend with a remote computer that keeps suspending and then losing internet connectivity which will then cuts ssh access until the next hard boot. I tried to edit some confs to prevent this to happen but was not successful. What should i be looking into (without have to mess with grub boot parameters) ?
[17:22] <ikonia> HeXiLeD: what configs have you edited ?
[17:23] <HeXiLeD> was a while ago but had something to do with kde
[17:23] <HeXiLeD> cant remember for sure
[17:23] <ikonia> it sounds like the network card is just not waking up after suspend
[17:23] <ikonia> the easy answer is to disable suspend
[17:25] <HeXiLeD> that is what i want. but where
[17:25] <HeXiLeD> acpi ?
[17:25] <ikonia> normally in the desktop's power management settings
[17:27] <HeXiLeD> ssh=cmd only
[17:27] <ikonia> what ?
[17:27] <evgeniy> p
[17:27] <evgeniy> exit
[17:28] <HeXiLeD> i have no access to GUI to go play with desktop's power management settings
[17:28] <EriC^^> HeXiLeD: it should be somewhere in gsettings
[17:28] <ikonia> HeXiLeD: ok ? so ask him to do it
[17:28] <ikonia> EriC^^: think he's on kde
[17:28] <HeXiLeD> he is remote too.
[17:28] <ikonia> HeXiLeD: wait until he gets home then
[17:28] <HeXiLeD> computer is on one county and we in another
[17:28] <EriC^^> kde doesn't use gsettings?
[17:29] <HeXiLeD> *country
[17:29] <ikonia> EriC^^: I didn't think it did, could be wrong though
[17:29] <HeXiLeD> please. no help form GUI users only
[17:29] <ikonia> HeXiLeD: use someone local to the computer
[17:29] <HeXiLeD> cmd line can solve this.
[17:29] <ikonia> HeXiLeD: how do you know
[17:29] <ikonia> HeXiLeD: you don't know the problem or how to fix it, yet your saying the command line can solve it
[17:29] <ikonia> HeXiLeD: disable the X11 auto start up then
[17:30] <HeXiLeD> X is needed for later
[17:30] <ikonia> HeXiLeD: why ?
[17:30] <ikonia> you just said it's remote and you can't use it
[17:31] <HeXiLeD> listen on the other side people are not computer literate. we have to set up the gui so be remote admin with vnc/teamviewer and so on. If you do not know how to use linux in the cmd line DO NOT waste my time
[17:31] <ikonia> HeXiLeD: pretty sure I do now how to use the command line
[17:32] <ikonia> HeXiLeD: if you're are skilled as you suggest you are, why do you not know how to fix it
[17:32] <HeXiLeD> ffs... get an OS move to gentoo.
[17:32] <ioria> HeXiLeD, but it goes to sleep because ssh dies, or suspend suddenly without any reason ?
[17:34] <OerHeks> !find flatpack
[17:34] <wedgie> HeXiLeD: maybe this will be helpful https://forum.kde.org/viewtopic.php?f=14&t=118646
[17:36] <ioria> !info flatpak
[17:36] <OerHeks> o thank you, -c
[17:36] <ioria> ^_^
[17:37] <wedgie> ikonia: not condoning his attitude, but i would have been frustrated by your answers if i had asked that question, too.
[17:37] <ikonia> wedgie: you'd complain that you knew it could be fixed how you wanted it to be fixed but you didn't know the problem or how to fix it, I doubt that
[17:38] <ikonia> wedgie: there was nothing unreasonable said, if he had restrictions, it's not unreasonable to expect to have them explained
[17:41] <wedgie> but instead of addressing the question you just suggested that the constraint that he mentioned should just be overcome rather than try to find a solution. And id be surorised if  what he was asking for was not possible. Anyway, not here to argue so thats all i'll say about it.
[17:41] <OerHeks> "..cuts ssh access until the next hard boot" .. in an other country ?
[17:41] <ikonia> wedgie: his constraint wasn't real though
[17:41] <OerHeks> lolz
[17:41] <ikonia> there was info being held back
[17:42] <ikonia> he had no gui access, but had gui access to change settings and needed to keep the gui up so he could use vnc
[17:43] <OerHeks> i hope he has a control-admin access point, to reboot then.
[18:00] <xpistos> Hey guys. I am trying to replicate AutoHotKey functionality. I want to write a script that will select all the text on the open webpage and copy the text. I can't use curl because the page has internal navigation so whatever page I am looking at within the Salesforce app, the webpage url is always the same.
[18:01] <EriC^^> try xdotool xpistos
[18:01] <xpistos> checking
[18:02] <centaur5> Anybody have some insight as to why firefox is incredibly slow lately? Not sure if it's isolated to 16.04 and 16.10 as I no longer have 14.04 machines but it consumes CPU and takes various seconds to do anything on 3 of my machines.
[18:02] <EriC^^> xpistos: mit has an insanely powerful version of what you're talking about, i forgot the name though
[18:02] <EriC^^> had to do with "eye"
[18:03] <Lorne2016> need some help - after recent reboot 14.04 LTS - when I login, monitor turns blank (off)...then it loops me back to login screen...?
[18:04] <Lorne2016> ..sorry 16.04...
[18:05] <EriC^^> xpistos: sikuli
[18:05] <genii> Lorne2016: Check that permissions in /home/yourusername all belong to yourusername
[18:06] <xpistos> EriC^^: It is only mac and windoes
[18:06] <Lorne2016> genii thanks... can you walk me thru that?  (also note - it was working fine for months...)
[18:07] <EriC^^> xpistos: no it's linux too
[18:07] <ioria> Lorne2016, open a console (ctrl+alt+f1)  when you get the login screen and run     find ~/ -not -user $USER
[18:07] <EriC^^> xpistos: https://github.com/sikuli/sikuli
[18:08] <EriC^^> xpistos: i'd try xdotool first, if it does the job then great
[18:08] <EriC^^> the sikuli one supposedly has image identification, like you can feed it a picture and it will look for it on the screen itself
[18:08] <Lorne2016> ioria thx... CTL+Alt+F1 only gives me a blank screen - and monitor turns off...
[18:09] <baecedar> centaur5, same feeling here
[18:09] <ioria> Lorne2016, try other Fx, i mean F2 ...
[18:09] <ioria> Lorne2016, if you can't get a console, you need Recovery
[18:09] <centaur5> baecedar, Have you found any solution? If it was 1 machine I'd consider that a problem but I have 3 machines same issue.
[18:10] <Lorne2016> ioria ok ctl-alt F2 does the same thing...monitor goes out (for about a minute...) the recycles to login screen
[18:10] <Lorne2016> ioria ok - you wanna walk me thru recovery?
[18:11] <baecedar> centaur5, unfortunetly i am neewb on ubuntu, just starting, but i was little surprised about this delay, coming from windows
[18:11] <ioria> Lorne2016,  from Grub screen (press shift, if you don't see it) select Advanced Options then root shell
[18:11] <centaur5> baecedar, Are you running 16.04 as well?
[18:12] <baecedar> centaur5, thought linux was faster than windows :p.. yes 16.04
[18:12] <Lorne2016> ioria - if it means anything - I have 2 video outs (only 1 monitor)... Nvidia and motherboard.... Nvidia port shows regular login screen...but motherboard port shows purple boot screen...(?)
[18:12] <centaur5> baecedar, I kind of wish I had time to waste going back to 14.04 to see if it's a problem. Honestly it only started months ago before it was fine. Chromium is still super fast.
[18:14] <ioria> Lorne2016,  in this cases, i'd disconnect one
[18:14] <yenclgj5nlw> Please update htop to the one with support of showing sensors
[18:14] <yenclgj5nlw> that one is in git
[18:15] <ioria> Lorne2016,  when you see the Recovery Menu , choose   Enable Networking and then Root Shell
[18:15] <Lorne2016> ioria  you mean physically disconnect one?  Like rip out the NVIDIA card? (cause I'm not going to rip the video output off the motherboard...)?
[18:15] <baecedar> centaur5, yes probably. i haven t checked into chromium yet.
[18:16] <ioria> Lorne2016,  no, just the cable, if i get you
[18:16] <Lorne2016> ioria ok ... i only have 1 monitor... so only plugged into 1
[18:17] <ioria> Lorne2016,  but the essential, is that you get to a shell ...
[18:17] <nuentoter> ok I am currently trying to repair grub, which i've had to do before. started from livecd, mounted the ubuntu partition I needed and then the guide i'm following says to bind directories but the paths do not exist, do i create the folders?
[18:18] <NoImNotNineVolt> Lorne2016: you can disable the onboard gpu in bios usually.
[18:18] <nuentoter> I seriously messed up and did a system wide upgrade and ended up breaking the server :(
[18:22] <ioria> brb
[18:24] <EriC^^> nuentoter: do you have internet connection on the server
[18:24] <EriC^^> ?
[18:24] <centaur5> baecedar, Well I hope it didn't give you a bad taste of Ubuntu it really wasn't an issue until a few months ago. Either go to chromium or see if 14.04 is better.
[18:26] <nuentoter> yeah im online with a live cd right now
[18:26] <nuentoter> http://paste.ubuntu.com/23599583/
[18:26] <nuentoter> just got that from the boot repair disc
[18:27] <baecedar> centaur5, not at all. :) i have dual boot now, using ubuntu for certain softwares. mb later i will switch completly
[18:27] <EriC^^> nuentoter: ok did you mount /dev/mapper/ubuntu--vg-root ?
[18:28] <J1sy> Hello
[18:28] <baecedar> ..any ESA SNAP users here?
[18:28] <J1sy> My workstation aint good
[18:29] <nuentoter> nope
[18:30] <yenclgj5nlw> hi all it's me again. When I wake system from suspend it hangs
[18:30] <yenclgj5nlw> magic sysrq doesn't help
[18:30] <EriC^^> yenclgj5nlw: try a newer kernel
[18:30] <nuentoter> EriC^^:  no i havent
[18:30] <EriC^^> !mainline
[18:31] <yenclgj5nlw> i use fully upgraded 16.10
[18:31] <EriC^^> nuentoter: ok, type sudo mount /dev/mapper/ubuntu--vg-root /mnt
[18:31] <nuentoter> k
[18:31] <EriC^^> yenclgj5nlw: use something newer
[18:31] <EriC^^> !info linux-image-generic
[18:32] <EriC^^> yenclgj5nlw: try kernel 4.9
[18:32] <EriC^^> http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/?C=N;O=D
[18:32] <EriC^^> yenclgj5nlw: did you try the acpi stuff?
[18:33] <trirpi> i removed all my display managers, is that a problem?
[18:33] <EriC^^> nuentoter: i'll brb, rebooting to an older kernel
[18:33] <nuentoter> ok ill b here
[18:37] <nuentoter> EriC^^:  ill brb I need a cigarette before i start pulling hair lol
[18:37] <EriC^^> nuentoter: done?
[18:37] <EriC^^> nuentoter: ok :D
[18:43] <nuentoter> ok im back
[18:43] <nuentoter> and yes i was able to bind my directories
[18:45] <nuentoter> EriC^^:  and yes i was able to bind my directories
[18:45] <EriC^^> ?
[18:45] <nuentoter> after mounting what you said
[18:45] <EriC^^> ok
[18:45] <nuentoter> now lets see if i can install grub i hope
[18:45] <EriC^^> try sudo chroot /mnt
[18:46] <nuentoter> yeah im in chroot
[18:47] <nuentoter> should i use grub or grub2? ubuntu is only system on pc
[18:47] <EriC^^> grub1
[18:47] <EriC^^> grub2
[18:47] <nuentoter> I've never had to mess with any of this stuff
[18:47] <EriC^^> use grub2
[18:48] <nuentoter> do i have to do grub-common first?
[18:48] <EriC^^> do them all together
[18:49] <sanguisdex> can someone point me to a place where I can better understand libc control groups
[18:51] <nuentoter> I am only getting unmet dependencies as a reply, i try to apt-get those and I get the same, grub-common depends on grub2-common and vice versa
[18:51] <nuentoter> even with -f
[18:52] <EriC^^> nuentoter: what does grub-install --recheck /dev/sdX give?
[18:52] <EriC^^> replace sdX with your hdd
[18:52] <MonkeyDust> sanguisdex  #glibc
[18:53] <sanguisdex> MonkeyDust++ thanks for listing for me! you da moneydust!
[18:53] <sanguisdex> MonkeyDust++ thanks for listing for me! you da mokeydust!
[18:53] <sanguisdex> MonkeyDust++ thanks for listing for me! you da monkeydust!
[18:53] <sanguisdex> ok I will stop now
[18:53] <nuentoter> The program 'grub-install' can be found in the following packages   grub  grub2-common  lupic-support
[18:53] <nuentoter> thats the reply i get
[18:54] <EriC^^> nuentoter: what does apt-get install --reinstall grub2-common give?
[18:54] <EriC^^> nuentoter: try grub-common
[18:54] <EriC^^> it barely depends on anything
[18:55] <nuentoter> http://paste.ubuntu.com/23599788/
[18:56] <nuentoter> nope :(
[18:58] <EriC^^> nuentoter: try apt-get remove grub-pc
[18:58] <EriC^^> what's actually installed right now, try dpkg -l | grep grub
[18:59] <nuentoter> pi  grub-pc                                               2.02~beta2-9ubuntu1.12
[19:00] <EriC^^> just that?
[19:00] <nuentoter> yeah
[19:00] <EriC^^> try removing it
[19:00] <nuentoter> amd64        GRand Unified Bootloader, version 2 (PC/BIOS version)
[19:00] <nuentoter> and
[19:00] <EriC^^> then try apt-get -f install
[19:00] <EriC^^> and dpkg --configure -a
[19:01] <nuentoter> http://paste.ubuntu.com/23599808/
[19:02] <yocs0000> hi everybody! what happens if you uninstall apport?
[19:02] <nuentoter> when I try remove grub-pc
[19:02] <EriC^^> yocs0000: the nsa will come after you
[19:02] <EriC^^> j/k
[19:02] <EriC^^> nuentoter: that's all kinds of weird
[19:02] <EriC^^> nuentoter: what exactly happened to this install?
[19:04] <yocs0000> EriC^^: such fantastic answer .... can you explain the chain of events? or shall I simply believe by faith?
[19:05] <yocs0000> connected to the previous questions .... the installer installed grub-efi-amd64 / disadvantage .... any substantial advantage compared to using grub-pc?
[19:05] <Lorne2016> Sorry - had a work thing distract me... I'm back now....
[19:05] <yocs0000> :D Lorne2016
[19:06] <yocs0000> apologies for mistake: connected to the previous questions .... the installer installed grub-efi-amd64 .... any substantial advantage / disadvantage compared to using grub-pc?
[19:06] <Lorne2016> OK - I'm trying to figure out why (while logging into 16.04) my screen goes black/off...and then cycles back to login
[19:08] <EriC^^> Lorne2016: cause you might not have the vt_handoff set in grub
[19:08] <EriC^^> Lorne2016: what does grep CMDLINE /etc/default/grub give you?
[19:08] <Lorne2016> Eric thanks... ok I'm having trouble getting into cmd screen...
[19:09] <EriC^^> Lorne2016: i think i misunderstood what you meant
[19:09] <EriC^^> i thought you meant it doesn't transition smoothly to the gui login screen
[19:10] <EriC^^> nuentoter: still there?
[19:10] <nuentoter> EriC^^:  installed libleveldb-dev and then did update and upgrade
[19:10] <nuentoter> sorry, boss came in and I was explaining the situation
[19:10] <EriC^^> nuentoter: ok
[19:10] <nuentoter> things ran fine until reboot, then it just sat after bios
[19:11] <EriC^^> nuentoter: that's odd
[19:11] <Lorne2016> EriC - ok - its weirder than that.... I upgraded something...then rebooted...and my login screen comes up (as normal)...but when I type password...screen goes black, monitor turns off...stays off for about a minute - then comes back on back to login screen
[19:11] <nuentoter> i know
[19:11] <xangua> Trying to set up an old Celeron xeon laptop with my 16.04, can't change the freq scaling (performance) to ondemand or conservative even when it says it's supported: pastebin.com/E3X7Wa0K
[19:11] <EriC^^> nuentoter: try dpkg -r --force-all grub-pc
[19:12] <EriC^^> Lorne2016: after that it works normally?
[19:12] <Lorne2016> Eric - nope.  the login screen looks normal - but I can't login!!
[19:12] <nuentoter> http://paste.ubuntu.com/23599850/
[19:13] <nuentoter> nope
[19:14] <Jordan_U> yocs0000: If you have a UEFI based machine then you should boot it via UEFI. grub-pc is for booting via BIOS, grub-efi-amd64 is for booting via (64 bit) UEFI. Both are grub2. Don't try to switch to grub-pc as there is more needed to change to booting via BIOS/CSM, and you shouldn't be booting via BIOS/CSM anyway. Stick with what you have :)
[19:14] <nuentoter> i was thinking could I simply install grub from like tahrpuppy disk I have laying around?
[19:15] <nuentoter> wouldnt that satisfy the dependencies?
[19:16] <EriC^^> nuentoter: try cat -n /usr/share/perl5/Debconf/{Question,Config}.pm
[19:16] <EriC^^> and pastebin them
[19:16] <EriC^^> i'll compare to mine
[19:16] <yocs0000> Jordan_U: it does not allow me to intall SELinux utilities if I do keep grub-efi-amd64 .... which sounds at least funny
[19:16] <EriC^^> nuentoter: mine http://paste.ubuntu.com/23599867/
[19:17] <krzee> i have an encrypted home dir which filled up, so i removed a bunch of stuff from it and rebooted, but i dont see the free space... could somebody tell me how to regain the lost space?
[19:17] <yocs0000> krzee: how did you remove the bunch of stuff?
[19:17] <krzee> rm -rf
[19:18] <nuentoter> http://paste.ubuntu.com/23599873/
[19:18] <krzee> (things like movies)
[19:18] <yocs0000> hi everybody! what happens if you purge apport?
[19:18] <yocs0000> krzee: sudo or not?
[19:18] <krzee> as root yes
[19:18] <krzee> and they are gone, and i see more space in my homedir until i reboot
[19:18] <timwis> Hi folks, I'm trying to automate a server deployment, and the first thing my shell script does is apt-get update and upgrade. This usually works, but I'm getting a pink screen telling me the configuration file has changed for PHP, prompting me whether to keep the old one or use the new one. I'm trying to automate this, and I can't seem to bypass it without
[19:18] <timwis> manual intervention. We've done a lot of research, and the only way to get around it is to add "exit 0" to the end, which I assume is just bypassing the upgrade... https://github.com/CityOfPhiladelphia/phila.gov/blob/master/scripts/predeploy.sh Any ideas?
[19:18] <nuentoter> line 72 missing a \
[19:19] <Lorne2016> EriC^^ I'm wondering if I can upgrade to 16.10 with a thumbdrive?  (thru the boot process...)  I can't seem to break into a shell.... its crappy :(
[19:19] <timwis> I was even thinking of using Expect to automate pressing enter on the pink screen... just not sure how to "expect" a pink screen.
[19:19] <Lorne2016> EriC^^ is there an easy way to create a bootable thumb drive (on my working system) for use on the non-working system?
[19:20] <Jordan_U> yocs0000: No such conflict for me on Ubuntu 16.04. What version of Ubuntu are you using? Please pastebin the full output from apt.
[19:20] <EriC^^> nuentoter: yup
[19:20] <EriC^^> nuentoter: modify both files so they look like mine
[19:20] <EriC^^> line 72 and line 30 in Config.pm
[19:20] <OerHeks> yocs0000,  you can remove apport, you just loose sending crash info to the ubuntu service.
[19:20] <EriC^^> Lorne2016: yeah, using dd
[19:21] <EriC^^> Lorne2016: sudo dd if=/path/to/iso of=/dev/sdX bs=4M && sync
[19:21] <egonsen> hi! executing /usr/bin/qtchooser -run-tool=qmake results in: qtchooser: could not exec '/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/qt4/bin/qmake': No such file or directory. my question is: why does qtchooser select qt4? i want to learn about it, so please just tell me the steps it takes :)
[19:21] <nuentoter> EriC^^: and 322
[19:22] <nuentoter> ill continue lookin through comparatively
[19:22] <EriC^^> nuentoter: it should be just both
[19:22] <EriC^^> cause the grub error says line 72 in Question.pm and line 30 in Config.pm
[19:22] <nuentoter> line 30 seems the same, am i missing something?
[19:22] <Lorne2016> eRIc^^ dd: failed to open '/path/to/iso': No such file or directory
[19:22] <nuentoter> oh nm
[19:23] <Jordan_U> timwis: http://docs.openstack.org/icehouse/install-guide/install/apt-debian/content/debconf-preseeding.html has an example of preseeding debconf prompts. I would *not* use --force-yes if at all avoidable. You can see the current selections by running "debconf-show packagename".
[19:23] <EriC^^> Lorne2016: replace that with the path to the iso whereever that is
[19:24] <EriC^^> Lorne2016: when you say you can't login later, you mean no keyboard input?
[19:24] <Arunangshu> hi i am using elementary os after installing pia from "https://helpdesk.privateinternetaccess.com/hc/en-us/articles/219438217-Installing-the-PIA-App-on-Linux" nether i am seeing any icon beside the clock as said on web page nor i am able to connect what should i do
[19:24] <enoch85> hey guys, I can't change shortcuts in the standard ubuntu terminal. I've tried everything. Is it locked?
[19:25] <Lorne2016> EriC^^  no - it lets me type my password (the login screen looks normal) - I type my password...then the screen goes black, monitor turns off for 60 secs...then turns back on - back to loin screen
[19:25] <EriC^^> Lorne2016: ok, go to ctrl+alt+f1
[19:26] <EriC^^> then type "DISPLAY=:0 startx xterm"
[19:26] <EriC^^> and see what errors it gives
[19:26] <Lorne2016> EriC^^ tried that - it does the same thing... scren goes black...monitor turns off...60 secs later goes back to login screen
[19:26] <EriC^^> Lorne2016: actually, try with DISPLAY=:1 startx xterm
[19:26] <timwis> Jordan_U: thanks, i'll check that out. One issue I'm having is it's hard to test fixes because once I upgrade, I can't reproduce the pink screen, and have to spin up a new server to test it. Is there a way to cancel the apt-get upgrade process when I encounter the pink screen, so I can try a different command instead? (ctrl-c and ctrl-d do nothing)
[19:26] <EriC^^> Lorne2016: try with DISPLAY=:1
[19:27] <nuentoter> EriC^^:  ok fixed them to match
[19:27] <EriC^^> nuentoter: great, try apt-get remove grub-pc
[19:27] <EriC^^> nuentoter: which ubuntu version is this?
[19:28] <Lorne2016> EriC^^ actually alt-shft-F1 just kills the monitor...its not coming back...
[19:28] <Lorne2016> EriC^^  I may need to reboot it....
[19:28] <EriC^^> Lorne2016: did the install work before or it's a fresh install?
[19:29] <Jordan_U> timwis: I'm not sure if sigkilling it is a good idea, though I assume you're testing on scratch instances/installs. Another option for solving this problem more generally would be to install a test system using btrfs and make snapshots, or install in a VM and do the same (again, just for testing).
[19:30] <Arunangshu> hi i am using elementary os after installing pia from "https://helpdesk.privateinternetaccess.com/hc/en-us/articles/219438217-Installing-the-PIA-App-on-Linux" nether i am seeing any icon beside the clock as said on web page nor i am able to connect what should i do
[19:30] <timwis> Jordan_U: yeah i'm just spinning up instances on AWS from a snapshot, but it takes like 5-10 mins each time.. it adds up when troubleshooting
[19:30] <Lorne2016> EriC^^ its been working for a year... I *did* have a lot of trouble in the past with the NVIDIA driver... (after each upgrade and reboot - I'd have to ctrl-alt-f1, sudo stop lightdm...sudo sh NVIDIA...etc...and re-install the NVIDIA drivers...but that problem got fixed about 4 mths ago...haven't had to do that in ages)
[19:31] <yocs0000> Jordan_U: from apt?! I can paste the uname -ram .... or lsb_release -a .... I do not know how to identify  the version with apt ....
[19:31] <yocs0000> OerHeks: the issue I have is that .... well, apport crashes a lot!!!!
[19:32] <EriC^^> Lorne2016: try cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | nc termbin.com 9999 and paste the link
[19:32] <Lorne2016> EriC^^ I can't perform any commands on the trouble machine - because I have no shell...no cmd
[19:32] <yenclgj5nlw> it's me again. I installed a kernel but it still hangs
[19:33] <nuentoter> http://paste.ubuntu.com/23599930/
[19:33] <EriC^^> Lorne2016: try booting with nomodeset or the recovery option in grub
[19:33] <Jordan_U> yocs0000: Sorry, that was two different requests. 1: State what version of Ubuntu you're running. 2: Pastebin the output of "sudo apt install selinux-utils" that shows that it wants to remove grub-efi-amd64 .
[19:33] <Lorne2016> EriC^^   ...I'm working from a separate machine...
[19:33] <yenclgj5nlw> hmm, it dont
[19:33] <yenclgj5nlw> now
[19:34] <EriC^^> nuentoter: try dpkg -r --force-all grub-pc
[19:34] <yenclgj5nlw> it asks me to login in another virt term now
[19:34] <EriC^^> Lorne2016: ?
[19:34] <EriC^^> how is that possible?
[19:34] <Arunangshu> hi i am using elementary os after installing pia from "https://helpdesk.privateinternetaccess.com/hc/en-us/articles/219438217-Installing-the-PIA-App-on-Linux" nether i am seeing any icon beside the clock as said on web page nor i am able to connect what should i do
[19:34] <Lorne2016> EriC^^  sorry - just saying I have 2 computers...
[19:34] <yenclgj5nlw> hmmm, io error /dev/sda
[19:35] <EriC^^> Lorne2016: oh ok
[19:35] <Jordan_U> !elementary | Arunangshu
[19:36] <crippa> hi
[19:36] <nwilson5> having issue in ubuntu 16.04 (when compared to 14.04) sorting file of international text. given file of 2M lines (< 40 chars per line), 14.04 can sort it in 20 seconds vs in 10 mins in 16.04. Using LC_COLLATE "en_US.UTF-8" in both.
[19:36] <nwilson5> ubuntu 14.04 has eglibc 2.19 vs 16.04 which has glibc 2.23
[19:36] <crippa> I'm ssh-ing to my machine but I receive this error: Write failed: Broken pipe
[19:36] <crippa> what is it? Can I ever ssh again, or do I need physical access to the machine to fix it?
[19:37] <pfifo> Ive followed many threads about turning off screensaver and screen blanking, and I still get screen savers activatin in the middle of games and movies. Why does ubuntu and lubuntu have so many levels of redundancy to try and save my LCD from a non-existant issue of screen burning?
[19:37] <yenclgj5nlw> EriC^^: I have installed the kernel. This time it haven't hanged completely, but I still expierence problems: it seems /dev/sda is unmounted and to mount it I need to login but to log in I need it mounted.
[19:38] <yenclgj5nlw> I use lvm for system
[19:38] <EriC^^> yenclgj5nlw: hmm no idea
[19:39] <Lorne2016> EriC^^  So.. its nuts I can't get into GRUB (by holding Shift - the screen goes black...) and can't ctrl-shft-F1...screen goes black...  If I make a thumbdrive with 16.10 - and install that - you think it will fix whatever got out of wack?
[19:39] <EriC^^> Lorne2016: probably, yeah
[19:39] <Lorne2016> EriC^^ ok - thats what I'm gonna do...
[19:40] <EriC^^> alright
[19:41] <Bashing-om> Lorne2016: EriC^^ Just joined but is this a graphic's driver issue - in getting a black screen ?
[19:41] <Lorne2016> Bashing-om  Wouldn't surprise me...this dang NVIDIA driver has been a hassel for ever
[19:42] <Lorne2016> Bashing-om ....about 6 mths ago - every major update, I had to reinstall the driver...but that got resolved....suddenly upon reboot, the login screen shows fine - but after typing pwd, it shuts the monitor off!
[19:43] <nuentoter> EriC^^:  could i simply comment out everything in /var/lib/dpkg/info/grub.prerm and apt-get it again?  would that work since its the pre-removal  scrpipt error
[19:44] <EriC^^> nuentoter: yeah
[19:44] <yocs0000> Jordan_U: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23599966/
[19:44] <EriC^^> nuentoter: that's a good idea
[19:45] <EriC^^> nuentoter: looking at the script it doesn't seem to do much
[19:46] <Bashing-om> Lorne2016: Sounds like you installed the nNidia driver from OEM .. in that case the driver is built on the presently installed kernel and updates to the kernel then break the graphic's driver .
[19:46] <yocs0000> Jordan_U: 16.10 64bit
[19:47] <Jordan_U> yocs0000: That is not the output of "sudo apt install selinux". What is it?
[19:47] <Lorne2016> Bashing-om yeah - that's probably right... (its not like it was my idea to do it that way...I just followed Nvidia's instructions on their website!)
[19:49] <egonsen> how can i tell apt-get to not automaitcally assume "yes" when using the "install" command?
[19:49] <tgm4883> egonsen: I don't think it does assume yes unless it's just a single package
[19:49] <yocs0000> Jordan_U: yes it is .... run the "sudo apt-get install selinux", and then tail of file "/var/log/apt/history.log"
[19:49] <MonkeyDust> egonsen  add -y
[19:50] <egonsen> i want to assume no even when installing a single package
[19:50] <tgm4883> MonkeyDust: that would do the opposite wouldn't it
[19:50] <nuentoter> it worked! i finally removed grub-pc
[19:50] <EriC^^> nuentoter: awesome
[19:50] <Bashing-om> lirimaery: OEM imstall on 'buntu is that "means of last resort" . We have a PPA that has tested and made available the latest drivers . Wanna see what happens when the graphic's driver is changed ?
[19:50] <EriC^^> nuentoter: try to install grub-common
[19:50] <EriC^^> nuentoter: first run a quick apt-get -f install
[19:50] <EriC^^> and dpkg --configure -a
[19:51] <MonkeyDust> tgm4883  how so? -y means yes
[19:51] <tgm4883> MonkeyDust: he want's to always be prompted, not have it assume yes
[19:52] <MonkeyDust> ok, misread, missed to 'not'   ' to not automaitcally assume "yes"'
[19:52] <pavlos> egonsen, there is a --assume=no in the apt-get install man page
[19:52] <Jordan_U> yocs0000: I didn't ask you to run "sudo apt install selinux" then provide the tail of /var/log/apt/history.log. Please provide what is asked or explain why you can't. I guess in this case the reason that you can't is because you've already run the command and allowed it to remove grub-efi-amd64. Please pastebin the output of "sudo apt install grub-efi-amd64" (don't respond yes or no to what apt tries to
[19:52] <MonkeyDust> missed the*
[19:52] <Jordan_U> do yet, just provide the output to the point where it says what it will try to do then asks).
[19:53] <pavlos> egonsen, err, --assume-no
[19:53] <tgm4883> egonsen: what's the reason for wanting that? I'm not sure of a way to do that, but there are some other options that you can use
[19:53] <nuentoter> no errors
[19:54] <tgm4883> pavlos: that wouldn't solve the issue either though right? It would just answer no, which isn't the desired result
[19:54] <nuentoter> is there supposed to be some output from the dpkg --configure?
[19:54] <pavlos> tgm4883, he said he did not want to assume -y which is yes
[19:55] <pavlos> tgm4883, maybe I misunderstood
[19:55] <yocs0000> Jordan_U: listen, as you perfectly know, the output is exactly the same .... with more info, so if you want to help identify the bug good, if you do not want to, just say it .... frankly I do not give a toss whether ubuntu ahs the bug or not, it is just to help
[19:55] <Jordan_U> pavlos: sudo apt install --assume-no hello #This command will still install hello without further prompting.
[19:55] <EriC^^> nuentoter: no
[19:55] <egonsen_> tgm4883, it feels better to me when i have a two-level agreement when installing software
[19:56] <tgm4883> pavlos: correct that is what he said. But saying "I don't want apt to assume yes" is not the same as "I wan't apt to assume no"..... Actually, his second comment is that he wants it to assume no, so I suppose you're right
[19:56] <tgm4883> egonsen: the answer has been provided, --assume-no
[19:56] <egonsen> alright! there isn't any config file where i can put this line, is it?
[19:57] <tgm4883> egonsen: I can see why it auto-assumes yes when it's only a single package. It's assuming that if you are both using sudo and saying "apt install <package>" that you actually want to install that package
[19:57] <EriC^^> nuentoter: try installing grub-common and see what happens
[19:57] <sebboh> Hello.  I'm using 16.04.1 LTS.  The command `sudo apt-get build-dep emacs24` fails due to unmet dependencies.  My /etc/apt/sources.list is stock except I uncommented all the deb-src lines.  I think this constitutes a bug...
[19:57] <Jordan_U> tgm4883: See my above response to pavlos, --assume-no does not do what egonsen seems to be asking for.
[19:58] <yocs0000> sebboh: what dependencies seem to be missing?
[19:58] <MonkeyDust> --assume-no simply aborts the installation, just tried
[19:58] <nuentoter> it installed with no complaints
[19:58] <tgm4883> Jordan_U: ah you're right. Because it assumes no to all prompts, but it's not prompting for a single package
[19:58] <Jordan_U> MonkeyDust: sudo apt install --assume-no hello
[19:59] <sebboh> yocs0000: http://paste.lisp.org/+75EZ
[20:00] <yocs0000> sebboh: what happens if you run "sudo apt-get -f install"?
[20:00] <tgm4883> egonsen: so --assume-no doesn't do what you want, and a quick search suggests that as of 2014 that there was no way to do that
[20:01] <tgm4883> *no way to force it to always ask
[20:02] <sebboh> yocs0000: 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[20:02] <Jordan_U> yocs0000: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SELinux suggests that selinux-basics and selinux-policy-default should be used instead of "selinux". Do you get the same conflict with only those pacakges installed? Does it provide everything that you need?
[20:04] <yocs0000> Jordan_U: I do not need it .... I had the impression there was a dependency bug and trying to understand to file a bug ....
[20:04] <egonsen> alright. thanks guys :)
[20:05] <EriC^^> nuentoter: ok, try installing grub2-common
[20:05] <EriC^^> the grub-pc-bin and grub-pc
[20:05] <EriC^^> *then
[20:05] <yocs0000> sebboh: mmmm .... I am afraid there is not a solution that I can think of tht I would recommed ....
[20:06] <yocs0000> sebboh: what I would suggest, is tryig to install the single dependencies, andunderstand why they do not work
[20:06] <nuentoter> was already waiting on em lol, they just finished no complaints
[20:06] <yocs0000> sebboh: before forcing anything .... is this a production machine?
[20:06] <sebboh> FYI The --just-print option doesn't do anything helpful when I'm trying to do apt-get build-dep and some packages have unmet dependencies...  (If it just gave me a list of what it wants to install, I could install most of it and handle the missing bits myself.)
[20:06] <Jordan_U> yocs0000: There probably is a dependancy bug, and from a quick look it's possible that the resolution might simply be to remove the no longer maintained selinux metapackage. Please do file a bug report.
[20:07] <sebboh> yocs0000: it's not prod but if you think about it, any kind of force option doesn't really make sense with build-dep ...
[20:08] <yocs0000> Jordan_U: exactly where I was going.
[20:08] <yocs0000> sebboh: be careful if you force packages ....
[20:09] <EriC^^> nuentoter: cool
[20:09] <nuentoter> i wonder what happened to cause all this though, all because of 2 "\" that got skipped over
[20:10] <enoch85> how do I change shortcuts in the Ubuntu Terminal? Marking it and putting in the new combination doesn't work...
[20:10] <nuentoter> should i be able to reboot and see what happens now?
[20:10] <yocs0000> sebboh: so, I suggest you try to install seprately the two individual dev packages, and try to understand what is wrong individually with them .... it is only two.
[20:10] <pavlos> MonkeyDust, see what Jordan_U wrote ... it installed package hello eventhough the flag --assume-no is present
[20:10] <EriC^^> nuentoter: try installing grub-gfxpayload-lists too
[20:10] <EriC^^> nuentoter: yeah
[20:10] <sebboh> meh, I built this machine a minute ago because I know 3D works under virtualbox on this machine.  I'm not that worried about breaking it.  yocs0000 I did that a minute ago, they installed fine.
[20:10] <yocs0000> Jordan_U: but I am sorry this time I will not be filing a bug, do not like being treated that way when I am just helping. Next time, maybe.
[20:11] <xangua> 1:11 PM <xangua> Trying to set up an old Celeron xeon laptop with my 16.04, can't change the freq scaling so it's always running at the highest frequency even when it says it's supported: pastebin.com/E3X7Wa0K
[20:11] <yocs0000> sebboh: the dev?
[20:11] <MonkeyDust> pavlos  yes,  i first tried it with apt purge --assume-no... that *did* abort
[20:11] <Jordan_U> yocs0000: Fair enough. We're both volunteers here.
[20:11] <yocs0000> sebboh: librsvg2-dev and libgtk-3-dev?
[20:12] <sebboh> they both installed.
[20:12] <sebboh> Apparently postfix is a builddep of emacs.
[20:12] <yocs0000> sebboh: good, now you should be able to run the prevous command without problems .... try again.
[20:12] <sebboh> yocs0000: yeah
[20:13] <pavlos> MonkeyDust, correct, the install does not consider the flag but the purge did abort. Interesting ....
[20:14] <yocs0000> woops! dinner time!
[20:14] <tgm4883> pavlos: MonkeyDust --assume-no only assumes no to any questions that are asked. Doing the install of a single package never asks a question, but IIRC a --purge will always ask the question
[20:14] <mkquist> DD question... I copied my 16.04 install to another partition, but when I boot into it it behaves differently.. like classic desktop and compiz arent installed and the networking doesnt work...
[20:16] <ioria> xangua, what's the cpu   celeron 530 , 40, or 50 ?
[20:16] <Jordan_U> mkquist: Having two filesystems with the same Globally Unique IDentifier, UUID is a good way to have problems. These problems could be affecting *both* installs, even if you haven't noticed problems in the other yet.
[20:17] <sebboh> mkquist: I stare into my crystal ball and guess that you're not booting the same kernel you were before, or that you aren't booting the same initrd.
[20:17] <user01> for a laptop with a 256GB SSD and 8 GB RAM . . . should a swap partition still be created?
[20:17] <mkquist> sebboh: correct on kernel
[20:18] <Jordan_U> mkquist: tune2fs -U can change an extN filesystem's UUID, then you would need to modify your /etc/fstab, and re-run "update-grub", and fix any other areas where the UUID is used.
[20:18] <FinalX> user01: for a laptop, yes, if you want to hibernate the entirety of RAM should fit inside the swap
[20:18] <FinalX> or well, nowadays there's a new way of hibernating.
[20:21] <arlion> More depens issues, this time a handful of packages are reporting they are not configured...
[20:21] <arlion> "Package ca-certificates is not configured yet."
[20:22] <mkquist> Jordan_U: thank you ill do that...
[20:22] <mkquist> Jordan_U: I guess I dont understand..  I thought if I dd'd the partition it would be an exact image.  I guess not?
[20:23] <sebboh> arlion: I wasn't here earlier.  Are you seeing that message scroll by while dpkg/apt-get are still working?
[20:23] <arlion> Nope, about 10 boxes are stuck there.
[20:23] <sebboh> 10 boxes.  Machines?
[20:24] <arlion> that's correct
[20:24] <arlion> I have upgrading 100 from 14.04.4 to 14.04.5
[20:24] <arlion> Failure rate is consistently ~20%
[20:24] <sebboh> ok, well, my initial understanding of your situation was way off, so I'll politely wander away. :)
[20:25] <arlion> I am currently massaging the rest of apt's issues away... but these are unique
[20:26] <egonsen> when i run "strace qmake", there is not a single reference to a read() for /usr/share/qtchooser/qt4-x86_64-linux-gnu.conf. but when i change the contents of that file, i get an error when executing "qmake", which means that qmake (or qtchooser, which is symlinked to by qmake) reads the contents of that file. why doesn't strace display the read operation?
[20:28] <sebboh> does qmake start another process when it runs?
[20:29] <sebboh> Does strace require fancy permissions in order to catch everything?
[20:29] <sebboh> If you try it on some other program that does read files, does it show the read()s then?
[20:29] <nuentoter> ok time to reboot and see what happens
[20:31] <Lorne2016> Eric^^   ok - some updates... I made a thumbdrive to install 16.10...but when I choose install new...the screen goes black...and turns off (!!)
[20:31] <Lorne2016> EriC^^ But - I can get to the GRUB screen using the stick
[20:31] <EriC^^> Lorne2016: does try ubuntu work?
[20:32] <Lorne2016> EriC^^ nope.   same blackness
[20:32] <EriC^^> odd
[20:32] <EriC^^> try nomodeset
[20:32] <Lorne2016> EriC^^  (and now I have 2 monitors plugged in - since it seemed like I was getting two different outputs on the two ports)
[20:33] <egonsen> sebboh, /usr/bin/qmake is a symlink to /usr/bin/qtchooser (which is a executable shared lib). i don't know if strace needs fancy permissions (but also starting with sudo does not show the read()s) and yes, other reads are displayed, even whenn straceing qmake
[20:33] <Lorne2016> EriC^^  Ok - how do I try nomodeset ...?
[20:33] <Lorne2016> EriC^^  I'm at grub>
[20:33] <EriC^^> Lorne2016: is it uefi?
[20:34] <Lorne2016> EriC^^   The grub I'm using is off the 16.10 install drive version 2.02
[20:35] <sebboh> egonsen: does that .conf file have any symlinks?  You know, I'm actually just thinking out loud.  I don't know what the problem is.  But I liked how you phrased the question.
[20:37] <ioria> Lorne2016, not grub, but your motherboard /machine ... does it support uefi ?
[20:37] <egonsen> sebboh, are you asking whether that .conf file is a symlink to another file? if that's the question, the answer is no
[20:37] <Lorne2016> ioria yes.  Sorry
[20:38] <OerHeks> !nomodeset
[20:38] <ioria> Lorne2016, are you booting the installation media in efi mode ? is ubuntu your only OS ?
[20:38] <Lorne2016> ioria Yes - Ubuntu is my only OS on this machine... and honestly, I'm not sure what mode i'm booting it into
[20:39] <ioria> Lorne2016, how did you do the stick ? and what video card doo you have ?
[20:39] <sebboh> egonsen: that wasn't my question. :)  But the obvious alternative question is pointless... Why would somebody symlink TO that file?
[20:40] <Lorne2016> ioria I created the 16.10 stick with Startup Creator in my other computer (this one running 16.4)... and I have a NVIDIA video card
[20:40] <egonsen> sebboh, even if someone linked to that file, how would the information, where those symlinks reside, help us? do you think there is a read() with the symlink rather than the conf file?
[20:40] <EriC^^> Lorne2016: press e over try ubuntu
[20:40] <EriC^^> and add nomodeset in the line that say  linux /boot/vmlinuz ....
[20:40] <EriC^^> then press ctrl+x
[20:41] <OerHeks> or when choosing install, hit F6 nomodeset
[20:42] <ioria> Lorne2016, try what EriC^^ said,  but don't use that (Startup Creator) but dd     sudo dd if=ubuntu.iso  of=/dev/sdx
[20:42] <egonsen> ha, you were right! i must have been blind. there is a read() to /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/qt-default/qtchooser//default.conf, which points to /usr/share/qtchooser/qt4-x86_64-linux-gnu.conf. great! thank you
[20:42] <ioria> Lorne2016, Startup Creator may have some issues
[20:43] <sebboh> egonsen: no, no, I don't.  Anyway, I'm not sure how strace would display the read() on a symlink.  But I'm just pondering in an academic manner.  You've got a real problem to solve, ignore me. :)
[20:43] <OerHeks> startup creator should just work fine
[20:44] <sebboh> wait, wat? lol
[20:44] <Lorne2016> EriC^^  ok - so I'm adding nomodeset after ...boot=casper qiet spalsh nomodeset---     right?
[20:44] <EriC^^> Lorne2016: right
[20:45] <Lorne2016> Eric^^   OK!!  It booted into the "Try Ubuntu" thingy!!
[20:46] <EriC^^> Lorne2016: great
[20:46] <Lorne2016> Eric^^... now what?!
[20:46] <tumulte> If I can't connect a firewire device without being root. What file should I check asido from /dev/hw0 ?
[20:47] <EriC^^> Lorne2016: 16.10 is supported for just a few months, if you can get your 16.04 working properly it'd be better imho
[20:49] <Lorne2016> Eric^^   I'm cool with that... what ideas do you have?!
[20:49] <EriC^^> Lorne2016: type sudo parted -l | nc termbin.com 9999
[20:51] <Lorne2016> Eric^^ http://termbin.com.9lj5
[20:52] <EriC^^> Lorne2016: sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt
[20:52] <Lorne2016> EriC^^  "Warning the driver descripter says the physical block size is 2048 byttes, but Linux says it is 512
[20:52] <EriC^^> for i in /dev /dev/pts /proc /sys /run; do sudo mount -B $i /mnt$i; done
[20:52] <EriC^^> Lorne2016: it's ok, it's just the usb
[20:55] <Lorne2016> Eric^^  mount point /mntdev does not exist
[20:56] <EriC^^> you might have missed the / before dev
[20:57] <Lorne2016> Eric^^  you're freakin psychic!
[20:57] <Lorne2016> Eric^^ ...done...
[20:57] <EriC^^> Lorne2016: ok, type sudo chroot /mnt
[20:57] <Lorne2016> Eric^^ ok
[20:57] <EriC^^> then cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log /home/*/.xsession-errors | nc termbin.com 9999
[20:58] <jhutchins> EriC^^: Lookit you gettin' all fancy!
[20:58] <jhutchins> EriC^^: Nice.
[20:58] <EriC^^> jhutchins: whatever gets the job done
[21:00] <Lorne2016> Eric^^ do i include the "then" ??
[21:00] <EriC^^> Lorne2016: no
[21:01] <Lorne2016> Eric^^  ok I got an error.... no such file or dir... so probably typed someting bad....
[21:01] <sebboh> nc: no such ... ?
[21:01] <EriC^^> Lorne2016: no, it's ok
[21:01] <EriC^^> try cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | nc termbin.com 9999
[21:02] <Lorne2016> Eric^^ it was : cat: '/home/*/.xsession-errors': No such....
[21:03] <Lorne2016> Eric^^   use netcat
[21:04] <EriC^^> give it another go
[21:04] <Jordan_U> mkquist: It is an exact image, and that is actually the problem.
[21:06] <Lorne2016> EriC^^   it gave me the same response "use netcat."
[21:09] <EriC^> Lorne2016: i got dc
[21:10] <EriC^> Lorne2016: try one last time
[21:10] <Lorne2016> Eric^ ok - glad you're back
[21:10] <Lorne2016> Eric^ still telling me Use netcat.
[21:10] <EriC^> Lorne2016: ok, do you have pastebinit installed?
[21:10] <Jordan_U> mkquist: To understand the problem, it can help to first look at how things used to work. It used to be that your /etc/fstab would contain a reference to a partition like "/dev/sda1", which would generally work pretty well until it didn't. If you added another drive, that new drive might end up being named "sda" and suddenly the same /etc/fstab is mounting a partition from an entirely different disk for
[21:11] <Jordan_U> your root filesystem. With some configurations, just by rebooting a drive that was "sda" last boot might show up as "sdb" the next.
[21:11] <Lorne2016> Eric^ don
[21:11] <Lorne2016> t think so...
[21:11] <EriC^> Lorne2016: ok, type apt-get install pastebinit
[21:11] <EvilAngel> I have been avoiding asking for help with this but I can't find a real solution anywhere. For months and now every day (to the point of being nearly unusable) I get the dreaded !caled_font-cache_frozen failed error when I launch any gtk apps. Is there a solution? I've deleted nearly everything in my .cache and .config dirs and ran fc-cache -r and manually deleted all font caches. Anything I'm missing?
[21:12] <Lorne2016> Eric^^ Ok done
[21:12] <EvilAngel> *cairo_font-cache* i meant
[21:12] <Lorne2016> Eric^^  (may have alreayd been there ;)  )
[21:13] <EriC^^> Lorne2016: ok, try cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | pastebinit
[21:15] <Lorne2016> Eric^^  "You are trying to send an empty doc , exiting"
[21:15] <Jordan_U> mkquist: So instead of using static device names, which are unreliable, someone had the idea to use a different method for identifying the correct device to use. Every time a new filesystem is created a random number is generated, like cb9c46a4-8c3c-402d-aca8-a94669a89e9c, and stored in the metadata of the filesystem. It never changes (unless you explicitly change it with tune2fs yourself) and so even if
[21:15] <Jordan_U> your have 100 drives and you don't know for sure which was called "sdh" at last boot, you can check every partition on every drive looking for that number (cb9c46a4-8c3c-402d-aca8-a94669a89e9c) and once you've found it, you can be sure that you have the right drive! Because that number is supposed to be Universally Unique. Unfortunately, if you copy a system usng dd you now have two partitions with the
[21:15] <Jordan_U> same filesystem, and thus the same randomly generated UUID, and so whichever is found first is used and assumed to be the correct one for that system.
[21:16] <EriC^^> Lorne2016: aha
[21:16] <Lorne2016> Eric^^  ok...?
[21:16] <EriC^^> Lorne2016: try apt-get purge nvidia*
[21:17] <sebboh> If I were typing that command completely blind, I'd do apt-get purge nvidia\*
[21:17] <Lorne2016> Eric^^   ok - that executed something...
[21:18] <EriC^^> sebboh: apt-get would warn you of purge *
[21:18] <Ben64> doing 'purge package*' can have some weird effects
[21:19] <sebboh> Not sure what you two are talking about, I was referring to the potential shell expansion of that glob.
[21:19] <Ben64> i'm talking about apt
[21:19] <sebboh> Yes
[21:19] <EriC^^> sebboh: yeah, you're right
[21:20] <Ben64> it handles wildcards in a weird way
[21:20] <Lorne2016> Eric^^  so...next step?  Reboot and watch it magically start up?! :P
[21:20] <EriC^^> Lorne2016: ok, open another terminal and type lspci -k | grep -A2 VGA | nc termbin.com 9999
[21:20] <sebboh> Ben64: ah, I see.
[21:21] <Lorne2016> Eric^^  its not happy about opening a second terminal... is XTerm the same thing?
[21:21] <Ben64> for example, doing "apt-get purge filter*" on my system would remove cups, gimp, evince, ubuntu-desktop, and more
[21:22] <EriC^^> Lorne2016: yes
[21:22] <Ben64> even though none of those start with "filter"
[21:22] <MonkeyDust> Lorne2016  try ctrl-shift-t for a new tab
[21:22] <sebboh> Ben64, I think that's because of the Ubuntu dependency tree, not because of odd handling of wildcards.
[21:23] <Ben64> then what is filter matching?
[21:23] <Lorne2016> Eric^^ http://termbin.comspml
[21:23] <Lorne2016> Eric^^ http://termbin.com/spml
[21:24] <sebboh> Ben64: apt-cache show filter*|grep ^Package
[21:24] <Ben64> only 3/112 start with filter
[21:25] <Ben64> it doesn't work how you would expect
[21:25] <EriC^^> Lorne2016: ok, in the first terminal type apt-get install --reinstall xserver-xorg-video-nouveau
[21:25] <sebboh> do an apt-get purge filters filter filtergen
[21:25] <EriC^^> which package contains nvidiafb?
[21:25] <EriC^^> anyone know?
[21:26] <sebboh> Ben64: it works how I would expect.  Aside from some of the strange dependencies in Ubuntu's package lists.
[21:26] <Ben64> why would you expect blah* to match something not starting with blah
[21:26] <sebboh> EricC^^ would apt-file(1) help you?
[21:26] <Ben64> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[21:26] <Ben64> again, not dependencies
[21:27] <sebboh> wat
[21:27] <Lorne2016> Eric^^ ok done.
[21:27] <sebboh> Ben64, I'll look into this.
[21:27] <Ben64> i've seen a number of people here that have borked their system from a command like that
[21:28] <streulma> Hello my screen rotation on my tablet is nearly perfect. But on startup it is rotated in the wrong way, also wen rotating screen. Is there an indicator which I can solve with?
[21:28] <EriC^^> Lorne2016: ok, try rebooting
[21:28] <Lorne2016> Eric^^ take out the thumb drive??
[21:28] <streulma> I mean this on Ubuntu Gnome 16.04.1
[21:29] <EriC^^> Lorne2016: yup, type exit in the chroot, then type sudo reboot and when it shuts off remove the thumb drive
[21:29] <sebboh> Ben64, I did get similar results to what you describe when I do apt-get purge cups*
[21:30] <sebboh> Ben64: but all the packages to be removed are printer related.  I think I already removed the ubuntu-desktop metapackage.
[21:31] <sebboh> Ben64: I completely understand exactly what weirdness you are talking about, but I do not think it is caused by broken wild-card matching.  I think the problem is the very odd dependencies around package ubuntu-desktop and friends.