[00:10] <JohnMD> Oracle virtualbox lubuntu boinc
[00:11] <wxl> JohnMD: your what hurts?
[00:13] <JohnMD> Thanx vxl. I want to run more than 1 boinc here. I'm sure my setup is OK. but I can't start an extra task via -
[00:14] <wxl> JohnMD: via what?
[00:14] <JohnMD>  /usr/bin/boinc --daemon --allow_multiple_clients --gui_rpc_port 31422 --dir ~/boinc2/
[00:15] <wxl> i see. why aren't you inquiring with boinc about this?
[00:15] <wxl> (i have no idea how it works)
[00:16] <wxl> i will say it seems silly to me to run multiple DAEMONS. it would make more sense that you would start multiple clients as that switch suggests
[00:16] <wxl> that's not based on experience but just logic
[00:16] <wxl> in any case there's nothing special about lubuntu as it relates to boinc
[00:19] <JohnMD> The command (in LXTerminal - Lubuntu 18.04) seems to have no effect - but is not erroneous.
[00:19] <JohnMD>  This manoevre is NOT standard boinc !
[00:20] <Maik> wxl: looks like there's been a spam attack going on again in channels that don't have the +r flag set up
[00:21] <JohnMD> Forget the daemon - it's a special word in boinc. What do you mean by 'switch' ?
[00:22] <wxl> JohnMD: it's only lubuntu? it works everywhere else? if not, then the issue must lie with what you're doing.
[00:23] <kc2bez[m]> JohnMD:  for general Boinc help go here https://boinc.berkeley.edu/wiki/BOINC_Help
[00:23] <JohnMD> - ot in Windows, Oracle, Virtualbox !
[00:23] <wxl> this suggests you have to sudo it https://efmer.com/linux-running-multiple-boinc-clients/
[00:24] <wxl> which makes sense as you are binding a port
[00:26] <wxl> if "ot" is supposed to mean offtopic, yes, that makes sense. it's very ON TOPIC at boinc XD
[00:27] <wxl> i'll also add that since it requires networking and you're using a virtual machine, you would want to make sure that you have your networing set up in a compatible way
[00:34] <JohnMD> "sudo" worked.*
[00:34] <JohnMD> The problem seems to be that the new task runs under "root" - and not my logon
[00:35] <wxl> `sudo sudo -c "your command" your-username`
[00:41] <JohnMD> twice sudo ?
[00:43] <JohnMD> I guess I need to cancel the task I started...
[00:43] <wxl> ooops i meant `sudo su`
[00:43] <wxl> err wait that might not work hold on
[00:44] <wxl> let's review: why does it need to be your logon?
 well to use the GPUs out of the box you can't without suod
 sudo*
 because it needs a group users usually are not in
[00:45] <wxl> right that was my point
[00:45] <JohnMD> Sorry about my delays - I'm writing from my lounge laptop, while Lubuntu is on the desktop in the workroom !
 sudo sudo -c doesn't solve that binding problem so if ANYTHING is using the GPU it should be started as root single sudo
 started as root with single sudo
 less a port binding issue, more the permissions around the device permissions
[00:46] <wxl> i meant `sudo su -c user` meaning "run this as this user" but that won't work
 right
 because *that user* will not have binding privs
[00:46] <wxl> i'm thinking more like `sudo --preserve-env` but i don't know why it needs to be "their login"
[00:47] <JohnMD> Forget gpu - only cpu required :)
 same problem
[00:47] <wxl> why does it need to be under your login?
 most utilities that aren't executed with a system layer at some point can bind to the CPU
 JohnMD: why *specifically* does it need to be under your login?
 (same question as wxl)
[00:48] <JohnMD> I need to connect a manager-program from my user
 that doesn't answer why you can't run the core daemon process as superuser and just connect into it with your manager program
 or are you saying that your manager program doesn't have the rights to when yo urun the daemon with sudo
 (which doesn't really make sense)
[00:49] <wxl> of course boinc doesn't make sense because they call their daemon a client
[00:50] <JohnMD> exactly
[00:50] <wxl> which gets me back to what i was saying before
[00:50] <wxl> ask boinc for help! XD
[00:50] <JohnMD> I'm new to Linux - superuser ??
 wxl: except BOINC has a GUI port that's TCP
 so with the right work you can configure the *client* to connect to the daeon on that TCP port
 that's more a problem with the way BOINC works than what we can do with it
[00:51] <wxl> right
 superuser aka administrative privs.
[00:51] <wxl> the issue isn't about lubuntu. it's about how to use boinc, which i don't think anyone of us now
[00:52] <wxl> LOOK LIVE HELP GO HERE https://boinc.berkeley.edu/help.php
[00:54] <JohnMD> worth a look.
[00:54] <JohnMD> Meanwhile I'll go and try sudo with user :)
[01:23] <JohnMD> sudo user did not work. time for bed.
[01:23] <JohnMD> Thanks to you good people :)
[05:05] <tech> how do get into groups
 Any idea does it make sens to propose changing default for fs.inotify.max_user_watches? And where it can be done?
 Both Android Studio and Codium (and therefore also Visual Studio Code) complain that default is too low - see https://code.visualstudio.com/docs/setup/linux#_visual-studio-code-is-unable-to-watch-for-file-changes-in-this-large-workspace-error-enospc
 I know how to change default for my install, but I wanted to propose changing default on fresh installs.
[07:07] <wxl[m]> <tech "how do get into groups"> `usermod -aG newgroup`
[07:07] <wxl[m]> <lubot "[telegram] <matkoniecz> Any idea"> Ubuntu kernel team
[22:27] <nixnine> I have a problem with my computer freezing.
[22:28] <wxl> mouse doesn't respond?
[22:28] <nixnine> Yes!  Mouse doesn't move and sometimes it seems to freeze when I start typing on the keyboard.
[22:29] <wxl> if you hit e.g. ctrl-alt-f4 does it respond by taking you to a login prompt?
[22:29] <nixnine> I am not sure.  I haven't tried that.  I will note that now.
[22:29] <wxl> if it does then you're not frozen and something else is going on
[22:30] <wxl> if it doesn't, you're almost unquestionably frozen for sure
[22:30] <wxl> if that's the case, check your disk light. if it's going off like mad and/or constant, it's obviously stuck
[22:30] <wxl> a common cause of that could be that you've run out of memory and the system is swapping like crazy (i.e. trying to use the disk as ram)
[22:31] <wxl> ((ram is more responsive than the disk, thus the problem))
[22:31] <nixnine> Ok.  Can I check that usage?
[22:31] <wxl> there's lots of ways, yes
[22:31] <nixnine> oh
[22:31] <wxl> how much ram do you have?
[22:31] <nixnine> just 8gb
[22:31] <wxl> that's a fair amount actually, at least for lubuntu
[22:32] <nixnine> oh.  I may be in the wrong place.  I am using ubuntu studio
[22:32] <wxl> yep you sure are :)
[22:32] <wxl> Eickmeyer[m]: ^ this one's yours :)
[22:33] <wxl> all of the above still apples though
[22:33] <Eickmeyer[m]> Which version?
[22:33] <nixnine> I just installed 20.04 lts
[22:33] <Eickmeyer[m]> Hmmm.... nothing else running?
[22:34] <nixnine> as in?
[22:34] <nixnine> programs?
[22:34] <Eickmeyer[m]> Well, are you just running the desktop and no applications when this is happening?
[22:34] <nixnine> No, I am usually using Gimp
[22:34] <nixnine> or just on the internet
[22:35] <Eickmeyer[m]> Interesting. Likely it's just processing something in the background. Ubuntu Studio is made for high-power machines, so if you're doing intensive stuff (like, ultra-high res with GIMP), then that could cause that.
[22:36] <nixnine> Yeah.  They are usually big files.
[22:36] <Eickmeyer[m]> Yep, GIMP basically uncompresses what might be small files and if they're high resolution, you're probably just experiencing swap.
[22:37] <nixnine> Yeah.  Usually my files are 7200 X 3200, 900 dpi.
[22:38] <Eickmeyer[m]> Yes, then that explains it. 8G, believe it or not, is too small to handle that.
[22:38] <nixnine> Ok.  Need more ram then
[22:38] <Eickmeyer[m]> So, while it's swapping stuff out to RAM (to keep your system from freezing completely) it's taking all of its priority to do that swap.
[22:38] <Eickmeyer[m]> That's what it sounds like.
[22:40] <nixnine> Ok.  Well, thanks.  I will see what happens if I use smaller files.
[22:41] <Eickmeyer[m]> Good luck! In the future, go to #ubuntustudio for support requests there.
[22:42] <nixnine> can you offer help on connecting a printer?
[22:42] <nixnine> I have a printer connected via usb but it says the printer is not connected


[04:17] <syntroPi> i want to modify an existing debian package and add some patches to it: in the debian/ directory there is that rules file: when i add an patch/ directory to the debian/ directory which command in the rules file applies those patches?
[04:17] <Noskcaj> syntroPi, They automatically apply
[04:17] <Noskcaj> as long as debian/source/format exists
[04:18] <Noskcaj> with "quilt (3.0)" in it
[04:19] <syntroPi> Noskcaj, yes that file exists with "3.0 (quilt)" in it. but there is no debian/patches
[04:20] <Noskcaj> just make debian/patches. the rules file should see it
[04:20] <syntroPi> can i just create debian/patches/series with "mypatch.patch" in it and debian/patches/mypatch.patch?
[04:20] <Noskcaj> yep
[04:20] <Noskcaj> could you pastebin the rules file so i can check it
[04:20] <syntroPi> from which directory will the patches be applied? "debian/.." ?
[04:21] <Noskcaj> what do you mean?
[04:22] <syntroPi> are the patches expected to be relative to the <package_name> directory?
[04:22] <syntroPi> Noskcaj, http://paste.ubuntu.com/7714491/
[04:23] <syntroPi> its from http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/universe/e/easystroke/easystroke_0.6.0-0ubuntu2.dsc
[04:23] <Noskcaj> the patches apply to the top directory
[04:25] <Noskcaj> So you know, you're using an old version of the package
[04:25] <Noskcaj> 0.6.0-0ubuntu3 is the current one
[04:26] <syntroPi> oh well good i will check the differences, but seems there is no patch for my issue included there
[04:28] <Noskcaj> there's no real difference (it's just a rebuild)
[04:28] <Noskcaj> I'd only just checked
[04:30] <syntroPi> oh cool seems that works, too easy, should have tried that in the first place :-)
[04:33] <syntroPi> ls
[04:43] <syntroPi> Noskcaj, workes like a charm, thank you for your help
[04:43] <Noskcaj> no problem. ping me if you need any more help
[14:09] <geser> what's the current fix for code linking with -lgfortran where gcc is 4.8 while libgfortran is 4.9 and gcc not finding -lgfortran?


[04:56] <ahoneybun> hola
[05:32] <valorie> ahoneybun: did you mean 14.04 on your daddy's computer, or 15.04?
[09:06] <lordievader> Good morning.
[09:13] <Peace-> hey i got this  error in kubuntu installing a new printer http://i.imgur.com/PEzDBQL.png
[09:13] <Peace-> Riddell: ^
[09:36] <Riddell> Peace-: bug in hp printer stuff I guess
[09:37] <Peace-> Riddell: and it seems it's an old bug that has shown again
[10:42] <ovidiu-florin> on which channel can I find lydia?
[10:43] <ovidiu-florin> have you guys filled out the KDE survey?
[10:43] <Riddell> kde survey?
[10:44] <Riddell> nightrose is on #kde-devel
[10:44] <Riddell> ovidiu-florin: ↑
[10:44] <ovidiu-florin> http://blog.lydiapintscher.de/2015/04/18/evolving-kde/
[10:44] <ovidiu-florin> Riddell: ^
[10:44] <ovidiu-florin> thank you
[10:45] <ovidiu-florin> Riddell: in what country is she?
[10:46] <ovidiu-florin> Riddell: what is a supporting member of KDE e.v.?
[10:46] <ovidiu-florin> what does that mean?
[10:47] <Riddell> she lives in germany
[10:48] <Riddell> a supporting member is someone who pays to be a member of e.v. as a donation
[10:48] <ovidiu-florin> aha
[10:49] <ovidiu-florin> Riddell: https://evolve.kde.org/
[11:58] <BluesKaj> Howdy all
[13:17] <Riddell> plasma 5.3 backports http://qa.kubuntu.co.uk/plasma-status/build_status_5.2.95_vivid.html
[13:25] <santa_> great
[13:31] <santa_> Riddell: I presume the kwin FTBFS it's because the libkdecoractions2-dev build dependency version wasn't properly bumped to >= 5.2.95
[13:34] <santa_> https://imgflip.com/i/kc6sh
[13:35] <santa_> ... to avoid this kind of issues?
[13:35] <santa_> I have some scriptery to do that in a reliable way for siduction
[16:18] <ahoneybun> I have gotten the funds
[16:23] <ahoneybun> any advise in booking the plane?
[16:27] <ahoneybun> Riddell: valorie ^
[17:03] <ahoneybun> ticket booked
[17:04] <ahoneybun> "Skip the taxi line. 42 people booked rooms in La Coruna last week. "
[20:11] <ahoneybun> Riddell: Ticket booked
[21:38] <valorie> ooo, I got to get on the stick
[21:38] <valorie> ahoneybun beat us!
[22:05] <ahoneybun> lol
[22:06] <ahoneybun> I see that the nvidia prime bug is off the list
[22:47] <ahoneybun> soee: ^
[22:48] <soee> ahoneybun: yes liek week now
[22:49] <soee> ahoneybun: https://plus.google.com/110954078302330754910/posts/5z3k8xaP1FA
[22:49] <ahoneybun> yay
[22:49]  * ahoneybun installs
[23:26] <ahoneybun> ovidiu-florin: ping
[23:38] <sgclark> valorie: I have not even heard back for funding..
[23:38] <valorie> eeek
[23:38] <valorie> actually, I've not applied yet
[23:39] <valorie> I will do so this weekend
[23:39] <valorie> gosh, how did time go so quickly?
[23:39] <sgclark> okies, I am starting to get concerned though
[23:39] <valorie> did you find your birth cert?
[23:39] <sgclark> yep, applied for nexus
[23:39] <valorie> oh cool
[23:39] <sgclark> just need that interview thingy
[23:39] <valorie> I got mine, but have not finished the application
[23:40] <valorie> will do that this weekend as well
[23:40]  * ahoneybun is just waiting on his Passport
[23:40] <ahoneybun> kontact can't access KWallet... I swear I put in my password
[23:42] <sgclark> I just need funding.. and as much work as I have put in... I will not be a happy camper if denied.
[23:43] <valorie> I would like funding as well, but could possibly swing it without
[23:43] <valorie> you however, not only need it, you *deserve* it
[23:46] <valorie> anyway, GSoC comes first, I have a job to do this weekend, and that must be done
[23:47] <valorie> and I think I have to mow the lawn tomorrow before the rains come back
[23:47] <valorie> living alone is challenging!
[23:47]  * valorie goes off to eat, fold laundry and visit the parental unit


[23:53] <RichSEA> Hello Gang
[23:54] <RichSEA> Hello SG
[23:55]  * seattlegaucho waves back to RichSEA
[23:56] <RichSEA> It has been many many years since I have used IRC.
[23:56] <RichSEA> I just found the Ubuntu web site and a listing for this Channel
[23:57] <RichSEA> Can you tell me how active the Washington Team is?


[05:40] <somsip> Link on !ntp to https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/serverguide/C/NTP.html is a 404
[05:44] <Flannel> ooh, new rewrite rules!  Lovely.
[05:45] <rww> canonical's just keeping us on our toes :c
[05:46] <whac-a-retro> rww
[05:46] <Flannel> !time =~ #/serverguide/C/#/serverguide/#
[05:50]  * whac-a-retro can't remember his password
[05:51] <rww> !search serverguide
[05:52] <rww> sigh
[05:52] <rww> !samba =~ s#/C/#/#
[05:53] <Flannel> I guess it has been a while since they broke all the links in ubuntu.com, we're overdue.
[05:53] <rww> !dns =~ s#/C/#/#
[05:54] <rww> !mailserver =~ s#/C/#/#
[05:54] <rww> i wish i knew who kept doing stuff like this
[05:54] <rww> !php =~ s#/C/#/#
[05:55] <rww> !sshd =~ s#/C/#/#
[05:55] <Flannel> oh, https vs http, bugger.
[05:55] <rww> hrm?
[05:55] <Flannel> I was searching for http://h.u.c/ and verifying, and I was thinking "man, rww sees a lot that I don't have..."
[05:55] <rww> oh. yeah, I just used the search ubottu linked above :P
[05:56] <rww> !vhosts =~ s#/C/#/#
[05:57] <rww> !-handbook-#edubuntu
[05:57] <rww> !forget handbook-#edubuntu
[05:57] <rww> !forget edubuntuhandbook
[05:57] <rww> !forget packageversions
[05:57] <rww> !forget versioning
[05:57] <rww> alrighty, that's everything with /C/ in it reviewed, I think we're good
[05:58] <rww> although now it occurs to me that a link checker spider pointed at ubottu.com would be a good idea, i'ma go do that
[06:03] <rww> ... except wiki.ubuntu.com blocks validator.w3.org, because god forbid the wiki go a week without annoying me somehow
[06:03] <rww> (as does help.ubuntu.com)
[06:04] <rww> and ubuntu.com doesn't support HEAD requests, because lol
[06:04] <Unit193> Noticed that last one a while ago..
[06:09] <Unit193> You also have to set a heavy throtlle on checking wiki.u.c for dead links, else it marks you as a spambot and blocks you.
[07:01] <maxi_retro> Hey
[07:02] <maxi_retro> I'm supposed to be unbanned from #ubuntu-offtopic from client too, not just web chat
[07:09] <maxi_retro> I guess I it isn't too much of a problem. Thanks for your time, operators!    He answered my request and then opened pm? He wants to create a shared terminal session with me, and tries very hard to convince me its way too hard without him on my terminal. I just asked about resizing partitions and am not a linux beginner
[18:06] <ikonia> whats up ?
[18:07] <ikonia> I don't understand the issue
[18:07] <ikonia> if you don't want to share your session with him - don't
[18:07] <ikonia> and why is this abuse ?
[18:08] <xSolidState> wasnt sure, thats why im asking. maybe he was just super nice. I thought id ask because this isnt standard irc behaviour. Didnt want to be rude or anything
[18:08] <xSolidState> thx
[18:17] <h00k> I've agreed to help teamviewer a stranger on something once
[18:17] <h00k> it sounds odd, but I was able to geniunely help them
[18:17] <h00k> I was like "You can always close my session, etc, here's exactly what/why I'm doing"
[18:17] <h00k> It worked out well.
[18:42] <elky> i'm concerned if someone is withholding assistance until people give them access to their computer, especially things that require root.
[18:42] <elky> because some people are actually going to be desperate enough to give this person root access.
[20:35] <maxi_retro> Bet that was phunyguy again
[20:36] <IdleOne> No ti wasn't
[20:36] <IdleOne> it*
[20:37] <IdleOne> it was me. You are banned and until a #ubuntu-offtopic operator specifically tells you while in this channel that your ban has been removed, you are not allowed to join #ubuntu-offtopic
[20:37] <IdleOne> is that clear?
[20:38] <maxi_retro> Then why do I keep getting unbanned? That is like the third time
[20:38] <phunyguy> Because you change IPs.
[20:38] <maxi_retro> o.o
[20:38] <maxi_retro> No I don't
[20:38] <IdleOne> you don't keep getting unbanned. Your ip address is dynamic and so is your nick changing.
[20:38] <phunyguy> do you have a registered nick?
[20:38] <IdleOne> just stop joining the channel
[20:42] <phunyguy> yeah his IP changed quite a few times
[20:42] <phunyguy> just going through BT
[20:42] <Pici> and the account he is using now was only registered 13 hours ago
[20:43] <phunyguy> hmm, could just $a:maxi_retro
[20:44] <phunyguy> Oh, I see, he joined -ot via webchat
[20:46] <phunyguy> Pici: how do you get registration info?  I can't remember.  need to take notes.
[20:46] <IdleOne> /ns info nick
[20:46] <Pici> /msg nickserv info phunyguy
[20:46] <phunyguy> ahh right
[20:46] <Unit193><EMAIL_ADDRESS>?
[20:47] <phunyguy> he's used other things like steven, etc
[20:47] <phunyguy> various iterations of it.
[20:47] <phunyguy> plus the webchat.
[20:48] <phunyguy> He is a pro at ban evasion, but acts like he doesn't know what he is doing.
[20:48] <phunyguy> like "I bet that was phunyguy again"
[20:48] <phunyguy> he knew it wasn't me.
[20:49] <phunyguy> He also probably reads these channel logs.  Hi retroispresto!
[21:16] <rww> [insert periodic reiteration of my opinion that #ubuntu-offtopic should be +r]