[11:33] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) idefixs, have you registered yourself to lp yet?
[11:33] <idefixs> but not how i can host it
[11:33] <idefixs> yes, i am registered
[11:33] <asac> bluekuja: yesterday it looked good
[11:33] <asac> maybe the wrong direction though
[11:34] <asac> idefixs: have you branched our branch?
[11:34] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: wrong direction?
[11:34] <asac> yeah ... if you use OLDFILE NEWFILE ... or NEWFILE OLDFILE matters
[11:34] <asac> wrong sequence ... dunno the right word :)
[11:34] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) I used NEWFILE OLDFILE
[11:34] <asac> yes thats definitly wrong
[11:34] <idefixs> asac, what does that mean?
[11:34] <asac> direction ;)
[11:34] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) mm...great
[11:35] <asac> bluekuja: if you read the log of this channel i told you the right direction :)
[11:35] <asac> bluekuja: at least i think so ;)
[11:35] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: yeah, but I was too tired yesterday
[11:35] <asac> bluekuja: can you give idefixs the url of our branch?
[11:35] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) of course
[11:35] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) idefixs, added your ssh key?
[11:35] <asac> bluekuja: at best the command to branch :)
[11:36] <asac> bluekuja: its a private branch of you atm? then he can only use http ... and later push to "his" private space
[11:36] <idefixs> bluekuja, not yet, one moment...
[11:36] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: exactly
[11:36] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) it's not a team branch
[11:36] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) so I'm the only one who can push in
[11:36] <asac> bluekuja: the idea is that idefixs as "upstream" maintains his own private branch
[11:37] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: yea, sounds good
[11:37] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) idefixs,  	http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~bluekuja/fische/main.autotools
[11:37] <asac> idefixs: you have to call bzr branch <URL>
[11:37] <asac> idefixs: you have to call bzr branch <URL> target-directory
[11:37] <idefixs> key uploaded
[11:37] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) idefixs, great
[11:37] <asac> 2nd syntax if you don't want to end it up in a dir called main.autotools
[11:37] <asac> :)
[11:38] <asac> idefixs: then, you might check if this is actually *your* latest version (so no work gets lost) ... and if you are done push it to your own private branch :) .... bluekuja can tell you how ;)
[11:39] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) idefixs, first of all setup your branch locallly
[11:39] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) *locally
[11:39] <idefixs> i got that far
[11:39] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) bzr init
[11:39] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) in your *work* dir
[11:39] <idefixs> oops no didn't
[11:39] <idefixs> ok
[11:39] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) then
[11:40] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) you branch out my own private branch
[11:40] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) with bzr branch URL
[11:40] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) as suggested by asac
[11:40] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) then you modify what is needed
[11:40] <asac> (yes ... and you don't call bzr init before)
[11:40] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) yes
[11:40] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) bzr init only if you start from zero
[11:41] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) importing stuff by hand
[11:41] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) remember to use bzr add or bzr rm
[11:41] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) for adding and removing files
[11:41] <idefixs> ok. NO bzr init, check bluekuja's files for actuality, ....
[11:41] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) when you have made a change, just commit your work...
[11:41] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) with..
[11:41] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) bzr commit -m "comment for your changes"
[11:42] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) please be much accurate as you can while writing your *changelog*
[11:42] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) after -m variable
[11:42] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) idefixs, then push your work to your brand new branch
[11:43] <idefixs> brand new branch? did i miss something? where?
[11:43] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent)  bzr push<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[11:43] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) idefixs, you have to work in your private branch
[11:43] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) using the files I currently have in mine
[11:43] <idefixs> ok....
[11:44] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) so just branch mine
[11:44] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) commit your comment
[11:44] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) and push to  bzr push<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[11:44] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) of course overwrite with correct informations
[11:45] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: do you have a minute for mined?
[11:50] <idefixs> is it a problem to configure/build in my local working directory?
[11:51] <asac> idefixs: dunno if you know something about decentralized source control systems like bzr ... its pretty cool as everybody has his own branch and you merge back and forth, share workload (e.g. we maintain the debian/ hierarchy and preapply patches if they are critical, which you can then merge to your core branch from which we usually merge :)
[11:51] <asac> idefixs: no its not
[11:51] <asac> you can build and do everything
[11:51] <asac> you just have to take care that you don't commit generated files
[11:51] <idefixs> how do i ensure that
[11:51] <asac> idefixs: you can even say something like bzr clean-tree in case you feel that you have too much garbage lying around :)
[11:52] <asac> idefixs: you only commit files that you once registered by bzr add
[11:52] <idefixs> ok thats easy
[11:52] <asac> e.g. all other files are not known to bzr and are thus considered garbage
[11:52] <asac> if you want to remove a file use bzr rm
[11:52] <asac> :)
[11:52] <asac> you can even move files: bzr mv
[11:52] <asac> idefixs: last but not least for the basics you can specify which files to commit
[11:53] <asac> when you don't want to commit every modification
[11:53] <asac> bzr status can be used to see what you have modified
[11:53] <asac> bzr info show some other interesting stuff
[11:53] <asac> once you are happy with your commits (e.g. you don't want to uncommit anymore) ... you can publish your changes online
[11:53] <asac> bzr push
[11:53] <asac> :)
[11:53] <asac> by
[11:53] <asac> thats basically it
[11:54] <asac> ah ... bzr diff
[11:55] <idefixs> when i locally change a file and then say push, does it push the changed one, or do i have to say commit-push
[11:55] <asac> to look at changes you have not yet committed ... or bzr diff -r rev1..rev2 ... to see modifications between those checkins
[11:55] <asac> idefixs: you first commit
[11:55] <asac> idefixs: usually you do not directly publish that commit
[11:55] <asac> but maybe commit another checkin
[11:56] <asac> once you have your feature finished ... or in a "publishable" state you publish by "bzr push"
[11:56] <idefixs> but now, in this case - i first commit ( locally ) and then push it all to a new branch. right?
[11:56] <asac> idefixs: yes ... actually the idea is that you branch from our branch to get started
[11:56] <asac> so you don't commit
[11:56] <asac> you just branch locally
[11:57] <asac> and directly push to your branch
[11:57] <asac> in this way its easier to do merges back and force from your to our tree and vv
[11:57] <asac> because bzr knows that both branches have a commom ancestor
[11:57] <asac> we could redo our branch as well in cause you don't want to start with our tree state
[11:58] <asac> idefixs: so basically you just to bzr branch URL (of bluekuja) ... then next step: bzr push sftp:.... (your url)
[11:58] <idefixs> no i'm fine. i'll start from here
[11:58] <asac> cool
[11:59] <asac> i think your initial push needs --create-prefix
[11:59] <asac> so bzr push --create-prefix sftp:...
[11:59] <asac> so the directories are created on sftp server
[12:02] <idefixs> no it didn't need it. already done.
[12:04] <idefixs> can i get more detailed info than bzr status
[12:04] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) idefixs, you can browse the code on launchpad
[12:05] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) with all files, changes, comments
[12:05] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) diffs, and so on
[12:06] <asac> idefixs: what info do you want?
[12:06] <asac> idefixs: bzr info shows you some more "high level" infos
[12:06] <idefixs> what exactly i changed in the files
[12:06] <asac> bzr diff
[12:06] <idefixs> ah ok
[12:06] <asac> bzr diff you can also diff between revisions
[12:06] <asac> or branches
[12:06] <asac> e.g. see whats the difference from your file to ours
[12:06] <asac> etc.
[12:07] <asac> idefixs: you can always use bzr help COMMAND
[12:07] <asac> to get pretty good help on the command
[12:07] <idefixs> and what if i did something wrong?
[12:07] <asac> locally?
[12:07] <idefixs> yes
[12:08] <asac> if you did not yet commit
[12:08] <asac> you can use
[12:08] <asac> bzr revert
[12:08] <idefixs> ok
[12:08] <asac> if you already committed locally
[12:08] <asac> you can uncommit
[12:08] <asac> but don't do that with already published commits
[12:08] <asac> just if you want to reorganize your work
[12:08] <asac> that is not yet published
[12:09] <asac> so its pretty save to commit multiple times locally to do some kind of check-pointing
[12:09] <asac> of your work
[12:10] <asac> and later reorganize your checkins so you have clean "per feature" checkins
[12:10] <asac> which is usually the ultimate goal :)
[12:15] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: when you have a minute for mined, let me know
[12:15] <asac> bluekuja: yeah :9
[12:16] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) ;)
[12:22] <idefixs> thanks for the help again!
[12:22] <idefixs> cu
[12:40] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) javamaniac, hey!
[12:40] <javamaniac> bluekuja, :)
[12:41] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) :)
[12:41] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) how are you?
[12:41] <javamaniac> fine, a little stressed with the university, and you?
[12:41] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) I'm really ok! thanks :)
[12:42] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) do you have some exams soon?
[12:43] <javamaniac> yes, and i must finish the first 4 chapters of my thesis before attend debconf :S
[12:43] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) aww
[12:43] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) :D
[01:22] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) DktrKranz, vorian , |Element| hello
[01:22] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) :)
[01:23] <DktrKranz> :-*
[01:23] <|Element|> bluekuja: hi
[01:23] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) |Element|, how its going with packaging?
[01:24] <|Element|> i did nothing recently, busy with work
[01:24] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) oh ok :)
[01:25] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) going to lunch
[01:25] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) bbl
[01:25] <|Element|> bluekuja: i'm sorry
[01:26] <|Element|> if i have time, i will do it
[01:59] <DarkSun88> Hi all
[01:59] <pochu> Hi DarkSun88
[02:00] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) hey DarkSun88 :)
[02:14] <DarkSun88> Hi pochu bluekuja :)
[02:14] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) :)
[02:47] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: I talked with upstream about the patch, he told me that dnh3.1 will be out soon
[02:47] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) so we can just wait for new release
[02:48] <asac> yes
[02:48] <asac> thats what I thought
[02:49] <asac> anyway ... patchutils excercise is nice anyway :)
[02:49] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) it's definitely better
[02:49] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) yup
[02:49] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) ^^
[02:49] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: do you have a minute for mined now? so I can archive that as done
[02:50] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~bluekuja/mined/debian.source
[02:50] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~bluekuja/mined/upstream.source
[02:52] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) xD
[02:54] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: strange, worked here
[02:54] <asac> bluekuja: did you try in sid?=
[02:54] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: nope
[02:54] <asac> sid has new gcc
[02:54] <asac> please try
[02:54] <asac> should fail there
[02:55] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) aww...new gcc
[02:55] <asac> or its an amd64 issue
[02:55] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) mm..
[02:55] <asac> please try
[02:55] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) ok
[03:06] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: setting up pbuilder with sid ;)
[03:10] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: http://packages.linuxdc.it/unstable/result/mined_2000.13.2-1/mined_2000.13.2-1_i386.build
[03:10] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: sent it two days ago
[03:10] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: and it builds on that machine
[03:10] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) with sid
[03:10] <asac> yeah ... then try amd64
[03:42] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: fails on amd64
[03:42] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) ^^
[03:43] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: should I specify the arch in debian/control then?
[03:46] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) leaving for an hour
[03:46] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) bbl
[03:47] <asac> bluekuja: no :) ... fix it
[03:48] <asac> bluekuja: its not ready for packaging if it doesn't build on all archs
[03:48] <asac> ... unless it inheritably implements a feature that is only available on i386
[03:48] <asac> but most in such a case its often right to default to 'the author had no clue'
[04:53] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: back
[04:53] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: do you have any hint to fix it?
[05:12] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: I dont understand why we get *** No rule to make target `SpecialCasing.txt'.  Stop.
[05:21] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: i'm checking mkcasesp
[05:21] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) to see what's wrong
[05:29] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: http://pastebin.mozilla.org/85412
[05:29] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: that's the file that points to to a .txt file
[05:32] <asac> usually you get that message if a file that should be there is not
[05:32] <asac> or if there is a makefile target missing
[05:32] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) exactly
[05:32] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) but why it works on i386 and not on amd64
[05:33] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) e.g in amd64 it's not created
[05:33] <asac> dunno :) ... that's your task
[05:33] <asac> there should be some reason
[05:33] <asac> :)
[05:33] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) lol
[05:33] <asac> if there is a valid reason
[05:33] <asac> then we can restrict archs
[05:33] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) need to see if previous versions got it
[05:34] <asac> might be that the source for that file is not matched ... or the file fails to get generated during make due to some amd specifics
[05:34] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: previous versions got amd64
[05:34] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) mm...
[05:35] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) need to diff that file with previous upstream version
[05:36] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: is exactly the same
[05:36] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) as new version
[05:36] <asac> mkinclud.mak
[05:36] <asac> in that file it WGETs that file
[05:36] <asac> which is EVIL
[05:37] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: yeah, it uses wget for it
[05:37] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) mmm
[05:37] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) http://unicode.org/Public/UNIDATA/SpecialCasing.txt
[05:38] <asac> what license is that file?
[05:39] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) let me see
[05:39] <asac> yeah all is lost
[05:39] <asac> its non-free
[05:40] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: yeah, is unicode copyright
[05:40] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) http://www.unicode.org/copyright.html
[05:40] <asac> please figure out if this file is not needed for i386 or if wget just succeeded for you
[05:40] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) ok
[05:40] <asac> if its not needed, we might have a chance ... otherwise its probably not distributable for us
[05:40] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: also for other files?
[05:41] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) http://unicode.org/Public/UNIDATA/Scripts.txt
[05:41] <asac> yes
[05:41] <asac> all files need to be checked
[05:41] <asac> all involved during build
[05:41] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) ok
[05:41] <asac> actually all WGET has to go away
[05:41] <asac> as its not possible to WGET something on buildds
[05:43] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: building without them
[05:45] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: it builds
[05:45] <asac> damn this software just sucks
[05:45] <asac> maybe rewrite the build system :)
[05:45] <asac> it makes no sense to have this kind of problem makefiles now adays
[05:45] <asac> its a "Turbo C" generated project file
[05:45] <asac> out
[05:45] <asac> ouchz
[05:46] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: omg
[05:46] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) ^^
[05:46] <asac> bluekuja: can you give me two sentences what mined does?
[05:46] <asac> what is its use?
[05:47] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) it's the first text editor that provided unicode-support
[05:47] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) from control:
[05:47] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent)  terminal. It now has both extensive Unicode and CJK support offering many
[05:47] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent)  specific features and covering special cases that other editors
[05:47] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent)  are not aware of (like auto-detection features and automatic handling
[05:47] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent)  of terminal variations, or Han character information). It is an editor
[05:47] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent)  tailored to efficient editing of plain text documents and programs,
[05:47] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent)  with features and interactive behaviour designed for this purpose.
[05:49] <asac> hmm
[05:49] <asac> sounds like yet another editor :)
[05:49] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) ^^
[05:50] <asac> please file a bug upstream to figure out if it can be build without those unicode files and why we need them on amd64 for instance
[05:50] <asac> we definitly have to push this back until we have clarification on that
[05:50] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: first release was on 2004-03-20
[05:51] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) the package
[05:51] <asac> where was it released to`
[05:51] <asac> ?
[05:51] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) on debian
[05:51] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) I mean first package was made on that date
[05:51] <asac> did it ever build on all archs?
[05:51] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: yeah
[05:51] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) every version builds on all archs
[05:51] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) also amd64
[05:51] <asac> do you have old versions at hand=?
[05:52] <asac> and see if it still pulls in those unicode files
[05:52] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: yeah, I have the code here
[05:52] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) lets see
[05:52] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: yeah
[05:53] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) old package got them
[05:53] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) and it builds on amd64
[05:53] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) last upload was made by Debian QA
[05:54] <asac> bluekuja: please search the debian-legal archives
[05:54] <asac> for the files in question
[05:54] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) ok
[05:54] <asac> maybe there is some discussion on
[05:54] <asac> it
[05:54] <asac> them
[05:57] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: nothing
[05:57] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: no discussion related to unicode/mined
[05:58] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) for our problem
[05:58] <asac> bluekuja: please search for the files in question
[05:58] <asac> those are released by unicode.org
[05:58] <asac> and might have been discussed independently
[05:58] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: file in question = wget ones'
[05:58] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) ?
[05:58] <asac> yes
[05:59] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) ok
[06:02] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: nothing, all messages are related to debian-devel for .changes uploads and users mailing lists
[06:02] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) some from debian-bugs and from wnpp
[06:02] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) nothing related to legal
[06:03] <asac> hmm
[06:03] <asac> bluekuja: if you can figure out why it works on i386 without WGET
[06:03] <asac> then we probably are on track, why its legal to distribute this
[06:03] <asac> but for now i don't see that
[06:03] <asac> can you uninstall wget and still can build that file?
[06:03] <asac> that package i mean
[06:04] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) lets try
[06:11] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: cant build without wget
[06:11] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) :/
[06:11] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) it mess up some dependencies
[06:11] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) ah wait found a workaround
[06:14] <asac> wget is in build dependencies?
[06:14] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: nope
[06:14] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: it builds without having wget on system
[06:15] <asac> figure out why ... and figure out why it tries to wget on amd64 (or actually why it doesn't try)
[06:15] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: in fact it doesnt use wget on i386 too
[06:16] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) it should fail
[06:17] <asac> YEAH .... you will find out ... read the makefiles and the "makefile helper"
[06:17] <asac> file
[06:18] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) damn package
[06:21] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) make actions makefile helper are included into mkinclud.mak
[06:21] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) *into
[06:21] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) so actions are passed from that file
[06:23] <asac> there are probably more helpers
[06:23] <asac> but in general yes
[06:23] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) I just dont understand why the SAME file doesnt work in two different releases
[06:24] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) on that arch
[06:24] <asac> maybe make system was changed
[06:24] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) yeah, that's a possible solution
[06:25] <asac> "a possible reason" you mean, right?
[06:25] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) *yes
[06:25] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) ^^
[06:36] <asac> k in 20 minutes i am out ... today i am out for real in case you wonder :)
[06:37] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: ok
[06:37] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: I'm checking debdiff
[06:38] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: -	wget -N http://unicode.org/Public/UNIDATA/UnicodeData.txt
[06:38] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) +	$(WGET) http://unicode.org/Public/UNIDATA/UnicodeData.txt
[06:38] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) in previous versions there was the -N option
[06:38] <asac> what does -N do?
[06:38] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) it doesn download files older that local ones
[06:38] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) *than
[06:38] <asac> k
[06:39] <asac> i think the difference should be further on top
[06:39] <asac> e.g. in makefile that uses that helper
[06:39] <asac> maybe its even a "configure option"
[06:39] <asac> you fail to pass
[06:39] <asac> e.g. like ... use WGET to get unicode files
[06:39] <asac> or not
[06:39] <asac> :)
[06:40] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: yeah, nice hint
[06:40] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) lets see
[06:40] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) what configure says
[06:41] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) mmm...configure is passed to makemined
[06:44] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: wget is used in a lot of other links
[06:44] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) it's plenty in the diff
[06:45] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) so maybe -N option was right
[06:45] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) something like dont download using wget but use local files
[06:46] <asac> bluekuja: which doesn't help if the file is not there locally
[06:46] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) right :)
[06:46] <asac> e.g. i don't see it in the source tarball
[06:46] <asac> i think we still don't understand whats going on ... and need to investigate
[06:46] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: +WGET=wget -N -t 1 --timeout=5
[06:47] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) it wgets curl too
[06:48] <asac> i have the feeling that you will have it figured out tomorrow :)
[06:48] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) I hope to figure out this
[06:48] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) it's really hard to understand what is doing
[06:48] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) and why if I dont have wget on my system it works?
[06:48] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) this is a nice question
[06:49] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) something like that those files are not needed
[06:49] <asac> yeah
[06:49] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) and why on amd64, they are needed again?
[06:49] <asac> its tricky ... but a challenge
[06:49] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) omg
[06:49] <asac> imo its probably borked make system
[06:50] <asac> if people start to do "everything on their own" ... they tend to fail miserably
[06:50] <asac> automake is the way to go in general :)
[06:50] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) yea
[06:51] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) this package is REALLY strange
[06:51] <asac> most packages are kind of strange
[06:51] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) mmm...yeah
[06:51] <asac> because lots of people don't know how to do a proper build system :)
[06:51] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) ^^
[06:51] <asac> actually he generated the makefiles by turbo C IDE
[06:52] <asac> which definitly leads to crap
[06:52] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) now we have results of it
[06:53] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) something changed in new version and it cause that error
[06:53] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) previous versions are ok
[06:53] <asac> bluekuja: have you verified that old version still builds
[06:53] <asac> ?
[06:53] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: using last gcc^
[06:53] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) ?
[06:53] <asac> if you have verified that ... then its time to look at difference
[06:53] <asac> no ... old version on new toolchain
[06:53] <asac> otherwise it won't help to look at what upstream changed
[06:54] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: not yet
[06:54] <asac> do that before you even consider to look at what changed
[06:54] <asac> imo its just a fragile build system that now hits us badly
[06:54] <asac> actually it might really be worth to autotoolize it
[06:57] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) trying old version
[06:58] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) seems to be ok
[06:59] <asac> does it build on amd?
[06:59] <asac> then check the difference
[06:59] <asac> i am out!!!!
[06:59] <asac> cu tomorrow
[06:59] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) :D
[06:59] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: girlfriend?
[07:00] <asac> not today :) ... today is beer time with some friends :)
[07:00] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) haha
[07:00] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) you rock!
[07:00] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) :)
[07:00] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) have a nice evening and take care
[07:00] <asac> sure thanks ... u2
[07:00] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) cu tomorrow
[07:00] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) ;)
[11:48] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) heya guys
[11:48] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: ctorrent released dnh3.1, I've packaged it and pushed into bzr for you
[11:48] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac:  	http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~bluekuja/ctorrent-enhanced/debian.source
[11:49] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asacV  	http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~bluekuja/ctorrent-enhanced/upstream.source
[11:54] <asac> superbe
[11:54] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) :)
[12:01] <asac> btw, why is the project called ctorrent enhanced?
[12:01] <asac> is there a ctorrent project too?
[12:01] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) yea, dead upstream
[12:01] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) so he re-started the project using that name
[12:01] <asac> ah ok ... thanks for clarifying
[12:01] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) :)
[12:01] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) he's doing a great work
[12:02] <asac> lets see :)
[12:03] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) :)
[12:03] <asac> 1st. good thing is that you did branch from upstream bzr :) ... bzr diff looks good :)
[12:04] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) :)
[12:06] <asac> lintian clean
[12:06] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) yup
[12:07] <asac> bzr header is missing in control
[12:07] <asac> you can add?
[12:07] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) of course
[12:07] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) just a moment
[12:08] <asac> did you add them on all other projects as well?
[12:08] <asac> if not, please do so as well :)
[12:09] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) ok
[12:09] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) ^^
[12:09] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) :)
[12:09] <asac> bluekuja: why do we name the package ctorrent? not ctorrent-enhanced?
[12:09] <asac> its ok i guess ... just confuses me a bit :)
[12:09] <asac> since in sf the project is called ctorrent as well
[12:10] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) well yeah, package is named ctorrent but version changes
[12:10] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) to dnh3
[12:10] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) for enhanced
[12:10] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) so it's not nice to have ctorrent-enhanced version dnh3
[12:11] <asac> he?
[12:11] <asac> i cannot follow this argument :)
[12:11] <asac> i mean what has dnh3 todo with enhanced?
[12:12] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) in fact, he decided to use dnh3 to dont overwrite the previous ctorrent name
[12:13] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) because he started up working on that
[12:13] <asac> no license headers in source
[12:13] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) mm..yea
[12:13] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) It's already in, so we can skip that
[12:13] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) for now
[12:15] <asac> yeah ... but please bug upstream
[12:15] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) ok, gonna mail him
[12:16] <asac> ask him if he is ok that you add the license headers and send him a patch :)
[12:16] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) bzr field added to debian/control
[12:16] <asac> k
[12:16] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) ok
[12:17] <asac> at best just do it and send the patch ... if he denies it should be removed from the archive anyway :)
[12:18] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) yeah, I dont think he will deny
[12:18] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) ^^
[12:21] <asac> bluekuja: you said its already in?
[12:21] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: yes
[12:21] <asac> bluekuja: why does the changelog start with your initial modification?
[12:21] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) huh?
[12:22] <asac> look at changelog ... it just has two entries
[12:22] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) yeah
[12:22] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) so?
[12:22] <asac> where are the others gone?
[12:22] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) it's my package
[12:22] <asac> ah ok
[12:23] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) first release was made by me
[12:23] <asac> k
[12:23] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) and this is the second
[12:23] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) ;)
[12:23] <asac> what does ctorrent do?
[12:23] <asac> command line bt-client?
[12:24] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) exactly
[12:24] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) http://www.rahul.net/dholmes/ctorrent/
[12:24] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) for all features
[12:26] <asac> so does it have a web interface or what?
[12:26] <asac> or just cmdline ... e.g. output to the console
[12:26] (armin76/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) yup
[12:26] (armin76/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) is another package, ctcs
[12:26] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) web interface too
[12:26] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) yes
[12:26] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) exactly armin76
[12:26] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) is ctcs
[12:26] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) :)
[12:26] (armin76/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) i never fail :D
[12:26] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) hehehe
[12:26] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) :)
[12:26] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) you know this application?
[12:27] <asac> but i can use it command line only?
[12:27] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) yea
[12:27] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) web interface is a plus
[12:28] (armin76/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) yep, i know it
[12:28] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) cool
[12:28] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) I packaged ctorrent for fedora too
[12:29] (armin76/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) i'm in the net-p2p team, so i have to know almost all the apps :)
[12:29] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) oh cool, for gentoo?
[12:29] (armin76/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) err, yes, why do you think i'm here? :P
[12:29] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) really nice
[12:29] (armin76/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) the only thing i don't touch are java apps
[12:29] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) hehe
[12:30] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) I dont like them too
[12:31] <asac> azureus is the word
[12:31] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) yup
[12:31] <asac> evil
[12:31] <asac> actually its fine ... but its such a huge beast ... consuming tons of mem et al
[12:31] <asac> for me a bt downloader should be 1mb max :)
[12:32] (armin76/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) yeah, fortunately azureus is maintained by another member of the team, so :)
[12:32] <asac> hehe ... so does gentoo spin java from source as well :-P ?
[12:33] <asac> or does azureus even work with a free vm?
[12:35] (armin76/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) errr, no idea :)
[12:37] <asac> http://sourceforge.net/top/topalltime.php?type=downloads
[12:37] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) aww
[12:37] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) 5 is DC++
[12:37] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) cool
[12:37] <asac> top 6 apps appear to be file sharing apps :)
[12:38] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) yeah^^
[12:38] <asac> 300 million dl for emule
[12:38] <asac> holy shit :)
[12:38] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) :D
[12:38] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: i still waiting verlihub
[12:38] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) some files were not tagged
[12:38] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) damn
[12:39] <asac> tagged?
[12:39] <asac> where?
[12:39] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) license
[12:39] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) e.g 2 files without
[12:40] <asac> bluekuja: ctorrent pushed
[12:40] <asac> please take care that we get license headers in next upload :)
[12:40] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: ok great! :)
[12:40] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) gonna mail upstream
[12:40] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: what can we do with verlihub?
[12:40] <asac> have you asked upstream if he wants to maintain the upstream branch in bzr?
[12:40] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) not yet
[12:40] <asac> verlihub ... i have no idea
[12:40] <asac> what the problem is
[12:41] <asac> please elaborate
[12:41] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: in fact two files doesnt have GNU license on the top
[12:41] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) two source files
[12:42] <asac> what do they have?
[12:43] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) nothing
[12:43] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) quite all files are tagged with license header
[12:43] <asac> what did upstream say?
[12:43] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) that in next release will be fixed
[12:44] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) = waiting months
[12:44] <asac> bluekuja: does he have a revision system?
[12:44] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) mmm...I think yes, but not public
[12:44] <asac> ah
[12:44] <asac> do we really want that package ... now?
[12:45] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) well, it's the best hub software for dc++
[12:45] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) atm
[12:46] <asac> so is it an ITP or is it an old package?
[12:46] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) ITP
[12:46] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) a guy requested it
[12:48] <asac> so where is the package ... in bzr already?
[12:48] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: nope, I have it here locally
[12:48] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) I think that in two hours I can have it ready and in bzr
[12:49] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) gonna ping you when pushed
[12:49] <asac>  http://verlihub.cvs.sourceforge.net/verlihub/
[12:49] <asac> http://verlihub.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/verlihub/
[12:49] <asac> which one is his?
[12:50] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: INSTALL 	 1.5 	 2 years 	 verliba 	 add possibility for plugins to extend userlist, and oplist
[12:50] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) LuaPlugin.dev 	 1.1 	 3 years 	 verliba 	 no message
[12:50] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) Makefile.am 	 1.20 	 2 years 	 verliba 	 reorganize project
[12:50] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) Makefile.cvs 	 1.2 	 3 years 	 verliba 	 *** empty log message ***
[12:50] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) Makefile.in 	 1.39 	 2 years 	 verliba 	 reorganize project
[12:50] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) Makefile.win 	 1.11 	 3 years 	 verliba 	 -DEXPLICIT_TEMPLATES
[12:50] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) NEWS 	 <IP_ADDRESS> 	 3 years 	 verliba
[12:50] <asac> yeah
[12:50] <pochu> !flood
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[12:50] <pochu> :p
[12:50] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) lol
[12:50] <pochu> Good morning!
[12:50] <asac> morning
[12:50] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) heya pochu !
[12:50] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) :)
[12:50] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: is not used
[12:50] <asac> bluekuja: maybe its maintained in svn? or cvs?
[12:51] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: http://verlihub.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/verlihub/net-p2p/verlihub/
[12:51] <asac> the guy is crazy ... have you looked at the svn ?
[12:51] <asac> he adds things like patches there
[12:51] <asac> nothing else
[12:51] <asac> and ebuild files
[12:51] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) yeah
[12:51] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) lol
[12:51] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) xD
[12:52] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: anyway I pushed it to bzr already
[12:52] <asac> good
[12:52] <asac> just let me know when all is ready
[12:52] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~bluekuja/verlihub/main
[12:52] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) the problem is that I pushed it only in one branhc
[12:52] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) *branch
[12:52] <asac> ups ... differnt approach?
[12:53] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) I did it 3 weeks ago
[12:53] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) so we did not use other method
[12:53] <asac> bluekuja: yeah ... you can override it
[12:53] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) yup
[12:53] <asac> now that we know better
[12:53] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) gonna branch it out
[12:53] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) and overwrite
[12:53] <asac> you can mark the branch as obsolete
[12:53] <asac> so it will disappear
[12:53] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) how?
[12:53] <asac> and use other names
[12:53] <asac> https://code.launchpad.net/~bluekuja/verlihub/main
[12:54] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) yea
[12:54] <asac> i think you should be able to edit it there
[12:54] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) ok
[12:54] <asac> edit branch blablabla
[12:54] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) ok
[12:54] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) going to eat
[12:54] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) for a while
[12:54] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) then I push all correct
[12:54] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) ;)
[12:54] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) brb
[12:54] <asac> yep
[01:03] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) backkkk
[01:03] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) let's start
[01:04] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) branching out current branch
[01:15] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: a question about a merge
[01:15] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) dh_iconcache is still needed with gtk?
[01:15] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) * to be specified
[01:15] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) in debian/rules
[01:16] <asac> no idea ... maybe ask on desktop
[01:16] <asac> #ubuntu-desktop
[01:16] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) ok
[01:17] <asac> or -motu :)
[01:17] <asac> maybe they know there as well
[01:17] <asac> i have never used it :)
[01:17] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) ok :)
[01:19] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) nice
[01:19] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) no one answers
[01:22] <pochu> bluekuja: not in debian, but in ubuntu
[01:22] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) oh ok
[01:22] <pochu> just if you're installing an icon into /usr/share/icons, IIRC
[01:22] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) so I should leave it
[01:22] <pochu> For Ubuntu yes.
[01:22] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) tnx for the hint
[01:23] <pochu> np
[01:30] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: verlihub got two ITP
[01:30] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) one merged in the other
[01:31] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) should I close both of them?
[01:31] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) or if they are merged, they are closed automatically
[01:31] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) with upload
[01:32] <asac> bluekuja: merge them
[01:32] <asac> then close the older in upload
[01:32] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: they are already merged
[01:33] <asac> k
[01:33] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) ok the older in upload
[01:33] <asac> yes ... you can close both as well
[01:33] <asac> doesn't matter much
[01:33] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) ok
[01:33] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) I'm pushing
[01:33] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) ;)
[02:15] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: http://packages.linuxdc.it/unstable/result/verlihub_0.9.8d-RC1-1/verlihub_0.9.8d-RC1-1.lintian
[02:17] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: library warnings cannot be fixed
[02:17] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) as far as those lib files are included with verlihub
[02:19] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) what do you think?
[02:24] <asac> W: verlihub source: source-contains-CVS-dir docs/html_manual/CVS
[02:24] <asac> that should be fixed
[02:24] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) yea
[02:24] <asac> (though i admit that we are not doing it for mozillas ) :)
[02:24] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) :D
[02:24] <asac> loads of manpages ... would be nice to have ... but not really a hard requirement imo
[02:24] <asac> there are tons of binaries that have no manpage
[02:24] <asac> though i hate those binaries
[02:25] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) lol
[02:25] <asac> and would like to have stricter handling of that
[02:25] <asac> verlihub: non-dev-pkg-with-shlib-symlink usr/lib/libplug_pi.so.0.0.0 usr/lib/libplug_pi.so
[02:25] <asac> what is that?
[02:25] <asac> i mean ... what kind of lib is that
[02:25] <asac> is that ment for external use?
[02:25] <asac> e.g. other programs making use of that lib
[02:25] <asac> or just internal use?
[02:25] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) mmm...
[02:26] <asac> libraries that are not ment to be exported must not end up in usr/lib
[02:26] <asac> but in usr/lib/appname/
[02:26] <asac> E: verlihub: description-starts-with-package-name -> fixable i guess :)
[02:26] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) I think just internal
[02:26] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) yeah^^
[02:26] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) want me to ldd it?
[02:26] <asac> bluekuja: then fix the build system
[02:27] <asac> ldd what?
[02:27] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) the verlihub binary
[02:27] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) to see where it points
[02:27] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) for that lib
[02:27] <asac> it definitly points to /usr/lib atm
[02:27] <asac> you have to change that
[02:27] <asac> all libs that are not ment to be exported have to go to the private directory
[02:27] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) a configure variable should be ok
[02:28] <asac> those actually don't need an so name ... but it doesn't matter much if you keep them
[02:28] <asac> no
[02:28] <asac> its definitly broken
[02:28] <asac> in build system
[02:28] <asac> e.g. the lib is declared to be "a real lib" ... while its not
[02:28] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) oh
[02:28] <asac> actually i doubt that the libs are not ment to be exported
[02:28] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) yea
[02:28] <asac> though i don't know for sure
[02:28] <asac> at best verify upstream
[02:29] <asac> should those libs be exported ... e.g. does he support ABI compatibility and maintain the soname properly
[02:29] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) they are application-specifif libs
[02:29] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) *c
[02:29] <asac> if he has no idea what you are talking about, then we move them in the private dir until he understands
[02:29] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) so they have to go
[02:29] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) in /usr/lib/app-name
[02:29] <asac> yes
[02:29] <asac> look in automake documentation on how to declare those
[02:29] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) that's it
[02:29] <asac> i guess thats libtool
[02:30] <asac> post build moving is definitly not the way to go ... so you have to fix Makefile.am files
[02:30] <asac> so read libtool + automake doc
[02:30] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) ok
[02:31] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) then
[02:31] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) I fix desc
[02:31] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) and then we are ok
[02:31] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) oh and cvs
[02:31] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) deleting that dir
[02:32] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: libdir='${exec_prefix}/lib
[02:35] <asac> libdir is wrong
[02:35] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) yup
[02:35] <asac> don't tweak configure settings
[02:35] <asac> even don't think about that :)
[02:35] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) haha
[02:37] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: cant see anything related to that in makefiles.am
[02:38] <asac> bluekuja: yeah read the automake doc
[02:38] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) ok
[02:38] <asac> in makefile.am you never explicitly say something
[02:38] <asac> its all declarative ... not programmatic
[02:38] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) reading manpage
[02:39] <asac> manpage is completely useless
[02:39] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: --libdir?
[02:39] <asac> manpage manual
[02:39] <asac> bluekuja: NO ... as i said
[02:40] <asac> read automake manual
[02:40] <asac> nothing less
[02:40] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) i'm on it
[02:40] <asac> you have to understand the automake approach
[02:40] <asac> otherwise you will still try to tweak things with command line arguments in a year :)
[02:40] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) :D
[02:40] <asac> http://sources.redhat.com/automake/automake.html
[02:40] <asac> that is the source of KNOW-HOW :)
[02:44] <asac> at best try the hello world ... then try to play around with how you get the program installed to a different directory
[02:45] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) i'm reading the libtool space
[02:46] <asac> libtool space?
[02:46] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) *section
[02:46] <asac> you will probably not find the info you need there :)
[02:46] <asac> its *much more* basic
[02:46] <asac> :)
[02:47] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) ah great
[02:47] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) :D
[02:47] <asac> e.g. which is why i said try to do it with a binary program
[02:47] <asac> e.g. take the hello-world and find a way that the binary gets installed somewhere else :)
[02:47] <asac> e.g. not in bin(dir)
[02:47] <asac> ^^^^ hint!!!
[02:47] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) lol
[02:48] <asac> bluekuja: yeah there is really a hint in there!
[02:48] <asac> :)
[02:48] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) thanks for it
[02:48] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) gonna ping you soon, with results
[02:48] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) :D
[02:49] <asac> maybe http://sources.redhat.com/automake/automake.html#Install
[02:49] <asac> to boost things
[02:50] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) thanks
[02:53] <asac> http://sources.redhat.com/automake/automake.html#A-Library
[02:53] <asac> the first sentence :)
[02:55] <asac> bluekuja: i am sorry if i ask too much :) ... the automake documentation is huge and not like for beginners ... which is why i provide you with links ... but at least try to figure out ;)
[02:56] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) yeah, automake is quite hard
[02:56] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) and not easy to understand at first time
[02:59] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: why using configure variable is bad in this case?
[03:01] <asac> if you understand automake then you will see
[03:01] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) ok
[03:01] <asac> hard to explain
[03:01] <asac> basically you mess up library search paths
[03:01] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) oh ok
[03:01] <asac> just read the links above
[03:28] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: using .noinst can work?
[03:28] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) or I'm completely out of a possible solution
[03:31] <asac> pkglibdir
[03:31] <asac> instead of lib
[03:32] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) waaa, was it
[03:32] <asac> as in the first sentence in the link above
[03:32] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) I was thinking about that
[03:32] <asac> yeah ... now try to implement it :)
[03:32] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) but cannot link the two things
[03:34] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: I need to define LTLIBRARIES
[03:34] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) and use pkglibdir variable
[03:34] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) with it
[03:35] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) e.g pkglib_LTLIBRARIES
[03:35] <DarkSun88> Hi all
[03:35] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) heya
[03:35] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) :)
[03:35] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: and it will install correctly
[03:35] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) in libdir/package
[03:35] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) that's what we want
[03:36] <asac> yes
[03:36] <asac> bluekuja: give it a try
[03:36] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) so I need to define each lib
[03:36] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) by hand
[03:36] <asac> then try to abstract what you learned on a higher leval
[03:36] <asac> he?
[03:36] <asac> bluekuja: there should be LTLIBRARIES already
[03:36] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) let me see
[03:37] <asac> i guess it should be lib_LTLIBRARIES for now
[03:37] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) I hope so
[03:37] <asac> you just change that
[03:37] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: yeah
[03:37] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) it's already there
[03:37] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) didnt see
[03:37] <asac> of course it is :)
[03:37] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) :)
[03:37] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) let's try
[03:37] <asac> unless he really messed things up :)
[03:37] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) heheh
[03:37] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) yeah
[03:38] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) ok
[03:38] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: fixed
[03:38] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: now updating
[03:38] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) with autotools
[03:40] <asac> try ... and see if all works well
[03:40] <asac> maybe binary target now cannot find the shared libs
[03:40] <asac> and we have to do something about that
[03:40] <asac> but just *maybe*
[03:40] <asac> depends on how he did it
[03:40] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: to update using autotools
[03:41] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) should I run them in all dirs?
[03:41] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) that contain a change
[03:41] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) e.g src
[03:41] <asac> run what?
[03:41] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) e.g lib
[03:41] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) autotools
[03:41] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) to update
[03:41] <asac> what is "autotools" ?
[03:41] <asac> i mean there are multiple tools ;)
[03:41] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) automake, autoconf
[03:41] <asac> if you touch Makefile.am files you just need to run automake
[03:41] <asac> its always in top level dir
[03:41] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) ok
[03:41] <asac> actually you should have an autogen.sh
[03:42] <asac> usually you want to invoke that
[03:42] <asac> instead of the tools individual (unless you know what you are doing)
[03:42] <asac> but has not autogen.sh script ... so you have to it manually
[03:42] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) yup
[03:45] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: some errors with automake
[03:45] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) some undefinied variables
[03:46] <asac> that are?
[03:46] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) src/Makefile.am:25: variable `PCRE_LIBS' not defined
[03:46] <asac> is it defined in configure?
[03:46] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) http://pastebin.mozilla.org/86232
[03:47] <asac> those should be in configure.ac
[03:47] <asac> please verify
[03:47] <asac> probably pkg-config checks
[03:47] <asac> e.g. for mysql
[03:49] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: leaving for an hour
[03:49] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) bbl
[03:49] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) so we can continue
[03:49] <asac> k
[05:02] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: back
[05:03] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: there's no configure.ac
[05:18] <asac> bluekuja: yeah you will figure it out
[05:18] <asac> they probably use the legacy name for that
[05:18] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: do I have to create it?
[05:18] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) OH
[05:18] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) *oh
[05:19] <asac> configure.ac is *NEW* name because configure.in was somehow ambiguous
[05:19] <asac> lots of projects still use configure.in
[05:19] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) good hint
[06:42] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: I'm searching how can I define that variables
[06:43] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: installing libtool, I solved two of them
[06:43] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) but PCRE_LIBS are still there
[06:43] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) same for mysql
[06:43] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) and geo_ip
[06:44] <asac> dunno
[06:44] <asac> can you see AC_SUBST ... for those?
[06:44] <asac> bluekuja: ^^
[06:45] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: AC_SUBST has been defienied for libcrypto only
[06:45] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) [AC_SUBST(CRYPT_LIBS,"-lcrypt")] )
[06:46] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) full line:
[06:46] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) AC_CHECK_LIB([crypt] , [crypt] ,[AC_SUBST(CRYPT_LIBS,"-lcrypt")] )
[06:47] <asac> is CRYPT_LIBS undefined as well?
[06:47] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: nope
[06:47] <asac> yes ... then thats nothing to care about
[06:47] <asac> what .m4 files do you have in tree (e.g. m4 files are libraries of configure macros)
[06:47] <asac> maybe some of those defines the /missing/ libs
[06:48] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) acinclude.m4 and aclocal.m4
[06:48] <asac> you searched whole tree?
[06:48] <asac> in depth:)
[06:51] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: yeah, only two
[06:51] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) checked bzr
[06:51] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) tree
[06:53] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: it can be a local m4 problem
[06:53] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) e.g two different local dirs
[06:53] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) /usr/local
[06:53] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) and /usr/share/local
[06:54] <asac> why bother about that?
[06:54] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: I'm reading a mailing list post
[06:54] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) about a guy that had that problem
[06:55] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: anyway why CRYPT_LIBS are correct?
[06:56] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) and mysql, geo-ip and pcre no?
[06:56] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) placed in the same makefile field
[07:01] <asac> i have no idea
[07:01] <asac> is the makefile broken?
[07:01] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) e.g?
[07:01] <asac> i mean ... maybe it just works :)
[07:02] <asac> or does automake *really* abort
[07:02] <asac> ?
[07:02] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) well, I've tried to build it
[07:02] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) but nothing change
[07:02] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) in fact automake aborts
[07:02] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) for those undefinied variables
[07:03] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) and it doesnt complete the update
[07:05] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: upstream provides it broken then
[07:07] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: having those libs public in /usr/lib is bad?
[07:08] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) (upstream doesnt care of it as libs are pointed that way)
[07:25] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: let me know
[07:25] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) ;)
[07:55] <DaveMorris>  guys mythbuntu has been dugged and we'r trying to find a tracker for the torrent files, any suggestions on where we can get one?
[01:40] <pochu> hey bluekuja, you're in the NEW queue too :)
[01:40] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) pochu: yup :)
[01:40] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) lol
[01:40] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) 4 days
[01:40] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) ^^
[01:40] <DarkSun88> G'night
[01:40] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) usually they are processed on weekends
[01:40] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) pochu: I'm leaving
[01:40] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) going to sleep
[01:40] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) :)
[01:41] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) cu tomorrow!
[01:41] <pochu> Good night!
[01:41] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) ;
[01:41] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) ;)
[12:00] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) heya
[12:00] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: :)
[12:00] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: where did you go yesterday?
[12:05] <pochu> Morning
[12:05] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) heya pochu
[12:05] <pochu> Hi bluekuja :)
[12:05] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) :)
[12:08] <asac> bluekuja: me?
[12:08] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: yea
[12:08] <asac> i received no more pings from you :)
[12:08] <asac> what did i miss?
[12:08] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: we have to decide about verlihub
[12:09] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: is bad to have those libs public?
[12:10] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) e.g in /usr/lib
[12:10] <asac> bluekuja: thats what upstream has to say ... do they care for ABI compatibility et al
[12:10] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: well, if the push them there
[12:10] <asac> for me it looks safe to ship them in pkglibdir for now
[12:10] <asac> and once we get upstream committement move them to a proper lib package et al
[12:10] <asac> bluekuja: never assume that people have a clue what they are doing
[12:11] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: yeah, you're right
[12:11] <asac> especially if the library version is 0.0.0 ... they usually have no idea
[12:11] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: I dont know how to fix those libs not specified
[12:11] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) while running automake
[12:13] <asac> he?
[12:13] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) I've tried adding some variables to specify it
[12:13] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) but still get that error
[12:13] <asac> what happens?
[12:13] <asac> i have no idea what error you are getting :) ... you missed to tell me
[12:13] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: http://pastebin.mozilla.org/86524
[12:15] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: adding libtool I dont get jM_MAINTAINER
[12:15] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) errors
[12:15] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) but now we have those
[12:16] <asac> bluekuja: if you remove the Makefile.in Makefile files
[12:16] <asac> and run automake
[12:16] <asac> are Makefile.in files created or not?
[12:16] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) yup
[12:17] <asac> so what doesn't work then?
[12:17] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) trying to delete
[12:17] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) makefile.in
[12:17] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) and run automake again
[12:25] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: nope
[12:25] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) if I delete makefile.in
[12:25] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) I still get those errors
[12:25] <asac> bluekuja: that is not the question
[12:25] <asac> read above
[12:25] <asac> my last question :)
[12:25] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: oh :D
[12:25] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) yeah, they are created
[12:26] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) if I delete them
[12:26] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) and I automake
[12:26] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) I get new makefiles.in
[12:26] <asac> then there is no problem
[12:27] <asac> so what is *the* problem
[12:27] <asac> ?
[12:27] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: nvm was misunderstanding something
[12:28] <asac> :)
[12:28] <asac> bluekuja: just try to build
[12:28] <asac> and see what happens
[12:28] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: now I build to see if pkglib works
[12:28] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) ok
[12:29] <asac> yeah
[12:56] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: building
[12:57] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) it's quite long btw
[12:57] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) ^^
[12:57] <asac> long is relativ :)
[12:57] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) hehe yeah
[12:57] <asac> bluekuja: you have some spare mem?
[12:57] <asac> you wanna do a ooo build?
[12:57] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: whats that?
[12:57] <asac> we need a respin in dapper
[12:57] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) oh
[12:57] <asac> against our firefox 2 backport
[12:57] <asac> OpenOffice.org
[12:57] <asac> ==
[12:58] <asac> ooo
[12:58] <asac> :)
[12:58] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) lol
[12:58] <asac> actually you just need to setup a dapper chroot
[12:58] <asac> with debootstrap
[12:58] <asac> then install depends from our preview archive
[12:58] <asac> e.g. ffox 2
[12:58] <asac> and respin openoffice
[12:58] <asac> which my team member cannot build because he get OOM
[12:58] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: 3 hours of build?
[12:59] <asac> bluekuja: maybe ... but maybe its 18 hours
[12:59] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) :D
[12:59] <asac> depends on the gcc in dapper
[12:59] <asac> i know that with some versions there was a single cpp file that took 1.5 hours to compile :)
[12:59] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) oh cool
[12:59] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) :P
[12:59] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: well yeah, when I finish with verli
[01:00] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) I can try it
[01:00] <asac> that would be awesome
[01:00] <asac> its like you need 4 G spare diskspace and at least 1GB of memory i guess
[01:00] <asac> maybe 8 GB disk ... no idea
[01:00] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) :D
[01:00] <asac> if you have a recent disk you should have enough space available
[01:01] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) I have 500 GB
[01:01] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) space
[01:01] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) ^^
[01:06] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: done, let's see if it worked
[01:07] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: usr/lib/verlihub/
[01:07] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) :)
[01:08] <asac> bluekuja: does ldd on binaries look good as well?=
[01:08] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) checking
[01:08] <asac> and please paste the content of that directory somewhere
[01:09] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: damn, I forgot to add pkg to usr/lib/libplug_pi.so
[01:09] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) usr/lib/libplug_pi.so.0
[01:09] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) usr/lib/libdiakritika_pi.so.0
[01:09] <asac> he?
[01:09] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) each lib got a variable
[01:09] <asac> why are those still in /usr/lib ... shouldn't they end up in /usr/lib/verlihub=
[01:09] <asac> ah ok
[01:10] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) and I forgot to do for those as well
[01:10] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) -.-
[01:10] <asac> but is does it point properly to the lib that is now in pkglibdir?
[01:10] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: http://pastebin.mozilla.org/86539
[01:11] <asac> yeah ... but does ldd reference the libs in pkglibdir as well?
[01:11] <asac> at best fix the variables first :)
[01:11] <asac> and then take a look
[01:11] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) checking
[01:12] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: I paste you ldd
[01:13] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: http://pastebin.mozilla.org/86540
[01:13] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) it's right
[01:14] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: I need to find out where libdiakritica hides
[01:14] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) libplug too
[01:14] <asac> fine
[01:14] <asac> you will figure the rest out
[01:14] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: and then we have a lintian clean package
[01:14] <asac> once the libs are in pkglibdir
[01:15] <asac> we can push ... then go to upstream and interview if he cares about sonames et al
[01:15] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: ok
[01:15] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: gonna fix it, desc, and CVS
[01:15] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) and I push
[01:15] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) for you
[01:15] <asac> cool
[01:15] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) ;)
[01:15] <asac> i mean ... i will review ... but i guess it should be fine (though no guarantees)
[01:16] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) ok
[01:17] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: separated checkins as alwais?
[01:17] <asac> sure
[01:17] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) great
[01:17] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) !
[01:57] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: :)
[01:57] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: it worked!
[01:57] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) usr/lib/verlihub/libdiakritika_pi.so
[01:57] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) usr/lib/verlihub/libverlihub.so.0
[01:57] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) usr/lib/verlihub/libvhapi.so.0
[01:57] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) usr/lib/verlihub/libverlihub.so
[01:57] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) usr/lib/verlihub/libvhapi.so
[01:57] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) usr/lib/verlihub/libplug_pi.so
[01:57] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) usr/lib/verlihub/libplug_pi.so.0
[01:59] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: now I start to checkin
[01:59] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) heya pochu_
[01:59] <pochu_> Hello :)
[01:59] <asac> yeah
[02:00] <asac> bluekuja: can you figure out if there is a -version passed in some makefile?
[02:00] <asac> imo those libs should not be versioned now anymore
[02:00] <asac> ola pochu
[02:00] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: nope
[02:00] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) no -version
[02:00] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) in libs makefiles
[02:01] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: is that ok?
[02:01] <asac> yeah
[02:01] <asac> probably we can live with that
[02:01] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) ok
[02:01] <asac> still i am wondering why it generates version info at all
[02:02] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: I start with first checkin
[02:03] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) that fix pkglib
[02:03] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) then I update
[02:03] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) in the second
[02:03] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) and third i fix minor things like desc, and CVS
[02:03] <asac> what do you mean by CVS?
[02:03] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) deleting CVS dirs
[02:04] <asac> how do you do  that?
[02:04] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: huh?
[02:04] <asac> do you just bzr rm ?
[02:04] <asac> or in rules?
[02:04] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) yup
[02:04] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) bzr rm
[02:04] <asac> ah ... ok
[02:04] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) ;)
[02:04] <asac> and desc?
[02:04] <asac> why do you want to mix desc + CVS ?
[02:04] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) yeah
[02:04] <asac> for me CVS deserves its own single checkin
[02:05] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) yeah
[02:05] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) right
[02:05] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) so separated
[02:23] <DarkSun88> Hi all
[02:23] <asac> ola
[02:24] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) ola
[02:24] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: should I remove docs/.cvsignore too?
[02:24] <DarkSun88> Hey bluekuja
[02:24] <DarkSun88> Hi asac
[02:24] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) heya DarkSun88
[02:25] <asac> bluekuja: yes ... if you remove CVS ... that is sane
[02:28] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: you can build now
[02:28] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: everything is ok :)
[02:28] <asac> i have no local branch so i can't update ... give me the urls please :)
[02:29] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) yup, just a mom
[02:29] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac:  	http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~bluekuja/verlihub/debian.source
[02:29] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac:  	http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~bluekuja/verlihub/upstream.source
[02:30] <asac> bluekuja: why do you always paste with some prefix I ?
[02:30] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: what do you mean? :)
[02:31] <asac> 14:29 < bluekuja> asac:  Ihttp://bazaar.launchpad.net/~bluekuja/verlihub/debian.source
[02:31] <asac> thats what i get here
[02:31] <asac> whenever you paste something
[02:31] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) 0_0
[02:31] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) strange
[02:31] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) I see it normal
[02:31] <asac> yeah ... you probably paste some spurious content
[02:31] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) yup
[02:31] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) I get it from lp
[02:31] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) and I paste it here
[02:31] <asac> its bad because i have to select and cannot just click
[02:31] <asac> maybe paste different (e.g. middle-mouse)
[02:31] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~bluekuja/verlihub/debian.source
[02:31] <asac> e.g. first select ... then
[02:31] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) it works now?
[02:32] <asac> yes
[02:32] <asac> that works
[02:32] <asac> thanks
[02:32] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~bluekuja/verlihub/upstream.source
[02:32] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) :)
[02:37] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: let me know when you have build results
[02:57] <asac> bluekuja: i can do in 1h
[02:57] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: sounds great
[02:57] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) ;)
[03:01] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) heya freeflying !
[03:02] <freeflying> bluekuja: hi
[03:02] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) :)
[04:20] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: news?
[04:30] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: let me know when you start ;)
[04:31] <asac> all got a bit pushed back, because i have to figure something out :)
[04:32] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: ok, do you think you can make it for today?
[04:32] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) e.g evening or later
[04:36] <asac> hope so
[04:36] <asac> i will just do when i do :)
[04:36] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) lol
[04:36] <asac> i promiss i will do asap
[04:36] <asac> :)
[04:36] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: :)
[04:37] <asac> maybe 5 minutes ... maybe 2h :)
[04:37] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) :D
[04:40] <asac> 7win12
[04:40] <asac> ups ;)
[04:40] <asac> caps lock
[04:41] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) :)
[07:05] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: suddenly build fails at:
[07:05] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) /bin/sh: -c: line 0: syntax error near unexpected token `)'
[07:05] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) /bin/sh: -c: line 0: `if test ! -f )] .in; then \'
[07:05] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) make[1] : *** [)] .in]  Error 2
[07:05] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) 30 minutes ago worked
[07:05] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) now I get that
[07:05] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) -.-
[07:06] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: maybe is just my problem
[07:06] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) here
[07:25] <asac> hehe ... good that i haven't tried yet
[07:25] <asac> have to go shopping in a few
[07:25] <asac> then i will look at your stuff
[07:25] <asac> so be prepared :)
[07:25] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: found the trick
[07:25] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) I didnt run aclocal
[07:25] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) before automake
[07:25] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) now running aclocal-->automake works
[07:26] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: it will be all ready when you return :)
[08:34] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: when everything is ok, I ping you
[08:34] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) ;)
[08:34] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) 10 mins more or less
[08:36] <asac> good
[08:36] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) ;)
[08:45] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: pushed and published
[08:45] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: now you can build :)
[08:46] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~bluekuja/verlihub/debian.source
[08:46] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~bluekuja/verlihub/upstreamsource
[08:46] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) damn
[08:46] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~bluekuja/verlihub/upstream.source
[08:46] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) ^^
[09:07] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: common ancestor worked?
[09:32] <asac> bluekuja: installing build-dep
[09:32] <asac> will look at it during the meeting
[09:32] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) @schedule rome
[09:32] (ubotu/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) Schedule for Europe/Rome: 07 Jun 22:00: Ubuntu Development Team | 12 Jun 17:00: Kernel Team | 13 Jun 14:00: Edubuntu | 14 Jun 18:00: Ubuntu Development Team | 16 Jun 19:00: Xubuntu Developers | 19 Jun 21:00: Technical Board
[09:33] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) cool development team today
[09:33] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: ok great :)
[09:33] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: when verli is pushed I move to package verlihub-stats
[09:33] <asac> move ahead
[09:34] <asac> there is no need to feel blocked because of verlihub
[09:34] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: I need that depends
[09:34] <asac> if I always would be blocked because one thing is not finished, I wouldn't get things done
[09:34] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) if not I cannot build
[09:34] <asac> bluekuja: ah
[09:34] <asac> bluekuja: yeah ... but you have the package
[09:34] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) ah yup
[09:34] <asac> :)
[09:34] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: I open the itp
[09:34] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) :)
[09:34] <asac> even good to sort issues out that might evolve because of that
[09:34] <asac> bluekuja: thats a good start ;)
[09:34] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: :)
[09:35] <asac> bluekuja: bzr remembers file-attributes
[09:35] <asac> please commit debian/rules as executable
[09:35] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: ok, it failed for ti?
[09:35] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) *it?
[09:38] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: pushed
[09:39] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) 1-2 minutes and we should have an executable file
[09:39] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) ;)
[09:39] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) published
[09:39] <asac> yeah ... i have fixed locally
[09:39] <asac> ;)
[09:39] <asac> so i was not really blocked :)
[09:39] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) :)
[09:39] <asac> but good to have ;)
[09:40] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) yup
[09:52] <asac> ok i will be back after meeting
[09:53] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: great
[09:53] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) ;)
[09:53] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: I'm writing the itp
[09:53] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) then I start with stats
[11:02] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: build was ok?
[11:20] <asac> doing a sid build now
[11:20] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: great
[11:20] <asac> 0.9.8d-RC1-1
[11:20] <asac> the version might be wrong
[11:20] <asac> what kind of RC is that?
[11:21] <asac> what will be the next released version?
[11:21] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) mmm..
[11:21] <asac> further ... using RC1 as package revision is wrong as well
[11:21] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) let me see the tree
[11:21] <asac> or what do you want to express with RC1 ?
[11:22] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: nothing, I used upstream syntax
[11:22] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) so we can drop it
[11:22] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) 0.9.8b
[11:22] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) 0.9.8c-RC1
[11:22] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) 0.9.8c-RC2
[11:22] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) 0.9.8D-RC2
[11:22] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) *0.9.8d-RC2
[11:22] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) the tree
[11:23] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: the problem is
[11:23] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) if upstream releases 0.9.8c-RC2
[11:23] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) what we do?
[11:23] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) if we have 0.9.8c
[11:23] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) already in
[11:27] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: so we can use RC1
[11:27] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) in my opinion
[11:27] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) to follow upstream releases closely
[11:29] <asac> bluekuja: actually the version is messed up then
[11:29] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: how it should be?
[11:29] <asac> question is what does upstream intent to release
[11:29] <asac> will they release 0.9.8c?
[11:29] <asac> or d?
[11:29] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) both already releases
[11:29] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) *d
[11:29] <asac> i mean its not clear by just looking at the version what they do
[11:29] <asac> ?
[11:30] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) 0.9.8c-RC1
[11:30] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) 0.9.8c-RC2
[11:30] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) 0.9.8d-RC2
[11:30] <asac> so they never release final?
[11:30] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) is upstream tree
[11:30] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) nope
[11:30] <asac> like never a 0.9.8d?
[11:30] <asac> its your decision
[11:30] <asac> fact is that the dash has to go away
[11:30] <asac> in upstream version
[11:31] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: suggestions for it=
[11:31] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) ?
[11:33] <asac> s/-/./
[11:33] <asac> or
[11:33] <asac> s/-/+/
[11:33] <asac> i prefer the former
[11:33] <asac> because double clicking on something with + in filename messes up selection of text in gnome-terminal
[11:33] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) yeah
[11:34] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) so 0.9.8d.RC1
[11:34] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) 0.9.8d.RC1-1
[11:34] <asac> looks good
[11:34] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) yup
[11:34] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) really nice
[11:34] <asac> though i hate upper case :)
[11:34] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) same
[11:34] <asac> it looks windowish
[11:34] <asac> you can use rc1 ;)
[11:34] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) lol
[11:34] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) 0.9.8d.rc1-1
[11:34] <asac> yeah
[11:34] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) looks good too
[11:34] <asac> that looks decent
[11:35] <asac> like a decent release
[11:35] <asac> actually not like a decent release :)
[11:35] <asac> anyway
[11:35] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) :D
[11:35] <asac> it looks like a release candidate
[11:35] <asac> which i assume would be followed by a final 0.9.8d at some point
[11:35] <asac> if that is ever going to happen we should use
[11:35] <asac> 0.9.8d~rc1
[11:36] <asac> which means that we are < then 0.9.8d
[11:36] <asac> but looking at release history i have not idea whats the plan
[11:36] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) yeah
[11:36] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) so 0.9.8d-rc1-1
[11:36] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) *.
[11:36] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) is the best
[11:36] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) we can have now
[11:36] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) so 0.9.8d.rc1-1
[11:36] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) ^^
[11:37] <asac> actually the most secure is my last post
[11:37] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) 0.9.8d~rc1?
[11:37] <asac> e.g. assume that rcX is really a release candidate aiming to release a plain version at some point
[11:37] <asac> yeah
[11:37] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) yeah, it's ok too
[11:37] <asac> (thats upstream version)
[11:37] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) yup
[11:37] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) sounds great
[11:37] <asac> look at what version i uploaded to thunderbird gutsy
[11:38] <asac> when <IP_ADDRESS> final comes out i can just upload with <IP_ADDRESS>-1 :) ... which is higher than <IP_ADDRESS>~rc1-1
[11:38] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) :D
[11:38] <asac> lets go the tilde way
[11:38] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) yea
[11:38] <asac> as we cannot look into his mind
[11:38] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) +1
[11:38] <asac> and if we really releases 0.9.8d at some point
[11:39] <asac> we would need to fix version by an epoch:
[11:39] <asac> 1:0.9.8d
[11:39] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) ok
[11:39] <asac> or do something like 0.9.8d.Xfinal
[11:39] <asac> you understand why?
[11:39] <pochu> The Debian NEW queue hasn't been worked out :/
[11:39] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) pochu: yeah, 5 days
[11:40] <asac> what do you expect
[11:40] <asac> ?
[11:40] <asac> you can be happy if things don't get to a month
[11:40] <asac> and given that iceape is in ubuntu NEW now for about 2-3 weeks
[11:40] <pochu> LoL :)
[11:40] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: can you explain me 1: ver ?
[11:40] <asac> ... ubuntu is not better at all :)
[11:41] <pochu> asac: I'm not complaining ;)
[11:41] <asac> bluekuja: look up "epoch"
[11:41] <asac> in debian developer guide
[11:41] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) yeah
[11:41] <asac> there is a section about versioning
[11:41] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) gonna check it
[11:41] <pochu> I'm happy with how Debian works, ATM :)
[11:41] <asac> dunno if the ~ feature is already in there
[11:41] <asac> but epoche definitly is
[11:41] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) pochu: same
[11:41] <asac> pochu: yeah ... agreed
[11:42] <asac> otoh ... if new is processed so eagerly it means that someone burns out :)
[11:42] <asac> if this *someone* has a real burn out we will end up with 3 month NEW time :)
[11:42] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) lol
[11:44] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: still building?
[11:45] <asac> obviously not :)
[11:45] <asac> it built
[11:45] <asac> need new version :)
[11:46] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: want me to push it now?
[11:46] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) one second work
[11:46] <asac> bluekuja: if i do it here i will end up with a conflict
[11:46] <asac> anyway now done
[11:46] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: :)
[11:48] <asac> bluekuja: you checked-in cruft
[11:48] <asac> e.g. stamp-h
[11:48] <asac> it has been removed during build
[11:48] <asac> but apparently is in bzr
[11:49] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: strange
[11:49] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) didnt see it
[11:49] <asac> you have to remove it from upstream tree
[11:49] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) I deleted stamp-h1.in
[11:49] <asac> no
[11:49] <asac> thats bad
[11:49] <asac> .in is likely source
[11:49] <asac> stamp-h is the result
[11:49] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: yeah
[11:49] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) it was stamp-h2
[11:49] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) ^^
[11:49] <asac> share/sql/default_pi_plug.sql
[11:49] <asac> that file is modified after build
[11:50] <asac> that is definitly something that needs to be resolved
[11:50] <asac> as it definitly goes unnoticed if you don't work with a revision system
[11:50] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: which kind of changes?
[11:50] <asac> asac@hector:~/ubuntu_motu/bluekuja/verlihub.debian$ bzr statusremoved: stamp-h
[11:50] <asac> modified: share/sql/default_pi_plug.sql
[11:50] <asac> ups
[11:50] <asac> unknown: libtool docs/Makefile src/make_time.h
[11:50] <asac> wait
[11:51] <asac> http://pastebin.mozilla.org/86637
[11:51] <asac> thats the cruft after abuild
[11:51] <asac> after a build all should be clean
[11:51] <asac> as on initial checkout
[11:51] <asac> after a build: build + clean
[11:52] <asac> libtool should be versioned in upstream tarball
[11:52] <asac> e.g. in .upstream branch
[11:52] <asac> the rest is cruft
[11:54] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: should I add a clean rule for them?
[11:54] <asac> bluekuja: how?
[11:54] <asac> how will you fix the "in-source" modified files in a clean rule?
[11:54] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: nice question :P
[11:54] <asac> for the Makefile you might use clean
[11:54] <asac> but better figure out why this wasn't removed on distclean
[11:55] <asac> ... on make distclean
[11:56] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: I dont know where I can start
[11:57] <asac> for makefile leftover
[11:57] <asac> look in Makefile.am
[11:57] <asac> the docs SUBDIR is not even used
[11:57] <asac> -> either add docs/ ... or remove the docs/Makefile from configure.ac
[11:57] <asac> so it doesn't get created
[11:57] <asac> i guess the latter should be the way to go for now
[11:58] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: so for now, only the makefile can be safely deleted?
[11:58] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) with that
[11:58] <asac> no your fix is to not generate it at all
[11:59] <asac> the removed stamp-h will be fixed once its dropped from .upstream
[11:59] <asac> the generated make_time.h is a pita
[11:59] <asac> you can fix it proper or just remove it in rules (clean)
[11:59] <asac> but post a bug upstream
[11:59] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) ok
[11:59] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) so
[11:59] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) 1) stamp-h in .upstream
[12:00] <asac> 1a) merge over that change to .debian tree
[12:00] <asac> but yes... go ahead
[12:00] <asac> :)
[12:00] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) 2) make_time.h deleted in debian/rules
[12:00] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) with a clean rule
[12:00] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) 3) makefile
[12:00] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) from docs
[12:01] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) deleting it from makefile.am
[12:02] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) to merge that change to the debian tree
[12:02] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) I can just do 2 checkins
[12:02] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) one for upstream
[12:02] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) and one for debian
[12:02] <asac> for 3) read what i wrote above
[12:03] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) <asac> -> either add docs/ ... or remove the docs/Makefile from configure.ac
[12:03] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) this?
[12:03] <asac> yes
[12:03] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) ok
[12:03] <asac> thats different from what you said
[12:03] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) ^^
[12:03] <asac> you need more checkins
[12:03] <asac> 1. checkin .upstream
[12:03] <asac> 2. checkin merge from .upstream to .debian
[12:03] <asac> 3. checkin fix for configure.ac
[12:04] <asac> 4. checkin update of configure (e.g. autogenerated)
[12:04] <asac> 5. checkin fix for rules (e.g. because of make_time.h)
[12:04] <asac> 6. checkin update of changelog :)
[12:04] <asac> probably thats it :)
[12:05] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) lol
[12:05] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) it *seems* easy
[12:05] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) :P
[12:05] <asac> yeah :)
[12:06] <asac> ok ... its night here ... i am out ... almost
[12:06] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: 0.06 here
[12:06] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: need to see how to merge that change
[12:07] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) dont remember how bzr merge works
[12:07] <asac> bluekuja: you will figure out :)
[12:07] <asac> i guess there are instructions in wiki.ubuntu.com
[12:07] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: :D
[12:07] <asac> otherwise bzr help COMMAND
[12:07] <asac> helps
[12:07] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: I think you'll have all ready for tomorrow
[12:08] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) morning
[12:08] <asac> bluekuja: cool :)
[12:08] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) I finish all now
[12:08] <asac> yeah sorry for being picky :) ... others might have missed this cruft thing
[12:08] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: dont worry :)
[12:08] <asac> actually i would have missed it if we weren't using bzr
[12:08] <asac> where i can just run bzr status
[12:08] <asac> after clean
[12:08] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) :D
[12:08] <asac> and see what else happened
[12:09] <asac> ah ... bluekuja share/sql/default_pi_plug.sql
[12:09] <asac> that one
[12:09] <asac> maybe you find the reason why its left there modified
[12:09] <asac> its definitly bad
[12:09] <asac> if you don't find a solution you can create a backup at the start of biuld somewhere
[12:09] <asac> and move the backup on clean back to the original file
[12:09] <asac> thats dirty
[12:09] <asac> but better than to blow up the diff.gz
[12:09] <asac> anyway, please find the cause for this
[12:09] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: so to bzr
[12:09] <asac> its pretty annoying if people modify sources in-tree
[12:10] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) what should I do with it?
[12:10] <asac> as i said ... find the source
[12:10] <asac> but first you can do 1-6 above
[12:10] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) yeah
[12:10] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) ^^
[12:10] <asac> find the cause i mean (not the source)
[12:10] <asac> :)
[12:11] <asac> ./share/Makefile.in:EXTRA_DIST = sql/default_pi_plug.sql.in
[12:11] <asac> ./share/Makefile.in:nobase_data_DATA = sql/default_pi_plug.sql
[12:11] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: I leave it for last
[12:11] <asac> look at that
[12:11] <asac> it might give you a clue whats going on
[12:11] <asac> hint: .in is the source ... .sql is just the product
[12:11] <asac> and should not be in source tree at all
[12:11] <asac> e.g. like stamp-h
[12:11] <asac> but needs to be cleaned up in make clean
[12:12] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) but it doesnt
[12:12] <asac> yeah
[12:12] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) nice
[12:12] <asac> otherwise we would have seen it as removed: ... like the stamp-h
[12:12] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) yeah
[12:13] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: should I delete it as stamp-h?
[12:13] <asac> yeah
[12:13] <asac> as a first step
[12:13] <asac> then you have to fix makefiles
[12:13] <asac> e.g. so it gets removed on distclean
[12:13] <asac> you can use a debian/rules clean hack as well
[12:14] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) yea
[12:14] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) like config.log
[12:14] <asac> but maybe its a challenge to figure things out
[12:14] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) I'm quite lost now
[12:14] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) for the last problem
[12:14] <asac> things take time
[12:14] <asac> even if it takes a week to figure out
[12:14] <asac> its not a problem
[12:14] <asac> thats how things work in software
[12:15] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) ^^
[12:15] <asac> you will rarely find someone for who knows or has the will to look into specific problems of you
[12:15] <asac> so  learn to figure out :)
[12:15] <asac> ;)
[12:15] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) :D
[12:15] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: let's start with 1-6 then
[12:15] <asac> yeah :)
[12:16] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: other problem is the last
[12:16] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) so I'll look at it when 1-6 is done
[12:16] <asac> sure
[12:16] <asac> you can definitly drop the .sql file from .upstream
[12:16] <asac> and merge that fix over to .debian
[12:16] <asac> e.g. like you do for stamp-h
[12:16] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) default_pi_plug.sql?
[12:16] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) ok
[12:16] <asac> ... so add a 1b and 1c )
[12:17] <asac> ok ... night :)
[12:17] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: night alex
[12:17] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: sleep well
[12:17] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) :P
[12:17] <asac> u2
[12:17] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) cu tomorrow
[12:17] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) :)
[12:33] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: found doc makefile
[12:33] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: AC_CONFIG_FILES([Makefile
[12:33] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) 		 src/Makefile
[12:33] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) 		 docs/Makefile
[12:33] <asac> ;)
[12:33] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: :)
[12:41] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: stupid question
[12:41] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) make_time.h
[12:41] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) should be removed
[12:41] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) by curdir
[12:41] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) or curdir/debian
[12:41] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) or curdir/debian/verlihub
[12:41] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) I'm sure of curdir
[12:41] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) but dont want to miss
[12:41] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) and mess up things
[12:42] <asac> remove it in debian/rules
[12:42] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: yeah
[12:42] <asac> how ... its up to you ;)
[12:42] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) but it have to be removed
[12:42] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) from source
[12:42] <asac> ah
[12:42] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) or
[12:42] <asac> yes
[12:42] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) ok
[12:42] <asac> remove it from .upstream branch
[12:42] <asac> then merge that checkin over to .debian :)
[12:42] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) and I add a clean rule
[12:42] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) ok
[12:43] <asac> yes
[12:43] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) great tnx
[12:43] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) gnight
[12:43] <asac> now really out :)
[12:43] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) ;)
[12:43] <asac> had to discuss something with mozillteam i didn't came to do this day
[12:43] <asac> so now
[12:43] <asac> bye
[12:43] <asac> thanks
[12:43] <asac> gnight as well
[12:43] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) cyaz
[12:44] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) dont worry
[12:44] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) :)
[01:45] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: autoconf messed up things....
[01:45] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac:  @install_sh@ -c -m 644 sql/default_pi_plug.sql /tmp/buildd/verlihub-0.9.8d~rc1/debian/verlihub/usr/share/verlihub/sql/default_pi_plug.sql
[01:45] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) /bin/sh: line 4: @install_sh@: command not found
[01:45] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: let me know tomorrow
[01:45] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) gnight all
[02:26] <DarkSun88> G'night
[10:56] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) heya guys
[10:56] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: seen what I've written you yesterday night?
[10:57] <asac> mail?
[10:57] <asac> yeah install_sh is not substituted
[10:57] <asac> you messed up something
[10:57] <asac> (e.g. unrelated to the .sql file)
[10:57] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) yup
[10:57] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: running autoconf
[10:58] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) messed up all
[10:58] <asac> either install is not found during configure
[10:58] <asac> autoconf never missed up a thing for me :)
[10:58] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) lol
[10:59] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: well, that happened after modifing configure.ac
[10:59] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) and updating with autoconf
[10:59] <asac> how did you modify?
[10:59] <asac> the diff?
[11:00] <asac> show it to me
[11:00] <asac> (of configure.ac)
[11:00] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: want me the diff between post-update and before-update?
[11:01] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: I changed
[11:01] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) AC_CONFIG_FILES([Makefile
[11:01] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) 		 src/Makefile
[11:01] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) 		 scripts/Makefile
[11:01] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) 		 share/Makefile
[11:01] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) 		 plugins/Makefile
[11:01] <asac> no ... the diff of your configure.ac changes
[11:01] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) deleting docs/Makefile
[11:01] <asac> again you have pasting problems :)
[11:01] <asac>  bluekuja> II src/Makefile
[11:01] <asac> 11:01 < bluekuja> II scripts/Makefile
[11:01] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) lol
[11:01] <asac> did you remove the .sql from bzr already?
[11:01] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: yup
[11:01] <asac> good
[11:01] <asac> show me the diff
[11:02] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) the diff of what I said before?
[11:02] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) <bluekuja> asac: want me the diff between post-update and before-up
[11:02] <asac> i can't parse that
[11:03] <asac> just give me the diff of the last 3 modifications you made to configure.ac
[11:03] <asac> e.g. but please just configure.ac :)
[11:03] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: oki
[11:03] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) :)
[11:07] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: http://pastebin.mozilla.org/86722
[11:07] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) diff between old and new
[11:08] <asac> bluekuja: why don't you use bzr diff?
[11:08] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) :D
[11:08] <asac> that diff might be completely unrelated :) ... please give me the real bzr diffs
[11:08] <asac> you applied to configure.ac
[11:08] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) ok
[11:08] <asac> (e.g. for the last 5 revisions)
[11:11] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: http://pastebin.mozilla.org/86724
[11:11] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) http://pastebin.mozilla.org/86725
[11:12] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) http://pastebin.mozilla.org/86726
[11:13] <asac> sorry ... there is something wrong
[11:13] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) and http://pastebin.mozilla.org/86727
[11:13] <asac> i mean i just asked for configure.ac
[11:13] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) last one
[11:13] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) ^^
[11:13] <asac> configure.ac
[11:13] <asac> ^^
[11:13] <asac> read
[11:13] <asac> ;)
[11:13] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) lol
[11:14] <asac> there is not a single checkin for that
[11:15] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: http://pastebin.mozilla.org/86728
[11:15] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) is configure.ac one
[11:16] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) of course you have to see it as -
[11:17] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) because I did the diff between 9 and 8
[11:17] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) and not 8 to 9
[11:17] <asac> yeah please do it right next time
[11:17] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) yeah sorry
[11:17] <asac> the other diffs are wrong direction as well i guess
[11:17] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) yea
[11:18] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: leaving docs/Makefile as it is
[11:18] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) is a problem?
[11:18] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) e.g to not mess up all
[11:18] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) as it happened
[11:18] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: I'm leaving for a while, need to do some shopping and so on
[11:18] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) be back later
[11:18] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) so we can finish
[11:19] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) leave me some ideas
[11:19] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) ;)
[11:19] <asac> it should not mess up anything
[11:20] <asac> try to run autoconf on unmodified tree
[11:20] <asac> and see if mess starts as well
[12:28] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: back
[12:28] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: now I try to run autoconf on original tree
[12:29] <asac> yep
[12:29] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) let's see
[12:38] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: mmmm...
[12:38] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) it built
[12:38] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) this is strange
[12:38] <asac> bluekuja: try to just apply the configure.ac
[12:38] <asac> patch
[12:39] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) to a original tree?
[12:39] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) and then I update
[12:39] <asac> bluekuja: its your way to figure out :)
[12:39] <asac> do what you need :)
[12:39] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) :)
[12:39] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) oki
[12:39] <asac> i mean ... you have done distinct checkins
[12:39] <asac> so you can try one by one
[12:39] <asac> ... and see which breaks your built
[12:40] <asac> thats the idea of checkin in distinctly
[12:40] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: well, with this built I've checked 2-3 checkins
[12:40] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) the ones from debian/
[12:41] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) now I need to apply configure.ac patch
[12:41] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) and see if it breaks
[12:41] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) everything
[12:41] <asac> bluekuja: if you are sure that "before" aconfigure.ac it builts
[12:41] <asac> then yes
[12:41] <asac> otherwise you need to find the intruder
[12:41] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: well yeah, I've tested it right now
[12:41] <asac> bluekuja: anyway ... don't try to remember "that it built at some point"
[12:41] <asac> test now if it really builts in the state that you belive it builds
[12:42] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) ok
[12:52] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: it builds -.-
[12:53] <asac> yeah ... so where is the problem?
[12:53] <asac> what patch didn't you apply?
[12:53] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: I did the same things of yesterday
[12:53] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) damn
[12:53] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) but yesterday failed
[12:53] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) ..
[12:53] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) with that error
[12:54] <asac> yeah ... so lesson learned: "work organised ... review what you did ... ensure that you have a clean tree state before build" :)
[12:54] <asac> ok lunch ... if things are pushed i can look after lunch
[12:54] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: yeah, maybe I found the trick
[12:54] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) now i used
[12:54] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) autoconf 2.59
[12:55] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) before 2.60
[12:55] <asac> that should not be a big problem
[12:55] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) oh ok
[12:55] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) ^^
[12:55] <asac> if you changed autoconf you need to update the configure update checkin
[12:55] <asac> remember that
[12:55] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) yeah, I'm pushing another update
[12:55] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) with a comment
[12:55] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) ;)
[12:59] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: good lunch
[12:59] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) ;)
[01:15] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: ok, I found out what's wrong
[01:15] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: running only autoconf, work without problems
[01:16] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: running automake+autoconf fails
[01:16] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) that's it
[01:16] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) it mess things up
[01:17] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: so it should be ok to add a clean rule for that file, without messing everything up with configure
[02:12] <asac> bluekuja: didn't we touch Makefile.am intentionally?
[02:12] <asac> automake *should* work
[02:12] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: yeah
[02:12] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) automake works
[02:12] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) but automake + autoconf not
[02:12] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) just tested it
[02:12] <DarkSun88> Hi all
[02:12] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) heya DarkSun88 :)
[02:12] <DarkSun88> Hi bluekuja
[02:13] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) :)
[02:13] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: automake is necessary
[02:13] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) for libs changes
[02:13] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) in my opinion we can skip modifing configure.ac
[02:13] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) and add a clean rule
[02:13] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) for it
[02:13] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) as we did for make_time.h
[02:13] <asac> no
[02:13] <asac> it should all work
[02:13] <asac> we have to figure out
[02:14] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: I know that should work
[02:14] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) but i dont undersand why it mess things up
[02:14] <asac> so now it works?
[02:14] <asac> e.g. without updating makefiles?
[02:14] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: yea
[02:14] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: only *autoconf* works
[02:14] <asac> i mean if you now build it succeeds?
[02:14] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: yup
[02:15] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) I used a fresh copy
[02:15] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) I updated
[02:15] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) with autoconf
[02:15] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) and worked
[02:15] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) then
[02:15] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) I tried
[02:15] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) with autoconf+automake
[02:15] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) build fails
[02:15] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) with @install.sh@
[02:15] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) error
[02:15] <asac> i mean is your current local copy working?
[02:15] <asac> and have you run autoconf already
[02:15] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: if I run autoconf on my local copy it fails
[02:16] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) I've tried on a fresh copy without running automake
[02:16] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) then I moved to the bzr local branch
[02:16] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) (already automaked)
[02:16] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) I updated with autoconf
[02:16] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) and --> build fails
[02:16] <asac> how do you build?
[02:16] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: using pbuilder
[02:16] <asac> yeah ... don't do that
[02:17] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) I test it in sid directly
[02:17] <asac> use local copy
[02:17] <asac> until you figure things out
[02:17] <asac> only if all is done use pbuilder
[02:17] <asac> otherwise you end up with something in pbuilder root that might be different from what you have locally
[02:17] <asac> actually i would suggest that you don't build debian package
[02:18] <asac> but try to build as normal
[02:18] <asac> e.g. just manually use configure
[02:18] <asac> and make
[02:18] <asac> no debian/rules and nothgin
[02:18] <asac> using pbuilder is just *too* confusing ... there are too many things that might fail
[02:18] <asac> or might be not-obvious
[02:19] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) ok
[02:19] <asac> 1st step ... get used to how to build sources without debian/rules
[02:19] <asac> its far better to evaluate such things
[02:19] <asac> e.g. things that are not directly related to debian packaging
[02:22] <asac> checking for working aclocal-1.4... found
[02:22] <asac> checking for working autoconf... found
[02:22] <asac> checking for working automake-1.4... found
[02:22] <asac> checking for working autoheader... found
[02:22] <asac> -> use automake-1.4
[02:23] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: ok
[02:23] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) lets try with 1-4
[02:23] <asac> for me it just works
[02:23] <asac> at least the latest from bzr
[02:24] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: yeah, latest from bzr is the right one
[02:24] <asac> asac@hector:~/ubuntu_motu/bluekuja/verlihub.debian$ bzr stat
[02:24] <asac> modified: configure
[02:24] <asac> unknown: share/sql/default_pi_plug.sql
[02:24] <asac> so ... default_pi_plug.sql is not properly removed
[02:25] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: nope
[02:25] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: I removed everything
[02:25] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) except it
[02:25] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: the question is...how?
[02:25] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) :)
[02:26] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) you told me to not use a clean rule for it
[02:26] <asac> we talked about that yesterday ... i am pretty sure
[02:26] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) (I've removed it from the tree)
[02:26] <asac> yes thats right
[02:26] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) but it stills get created
[02:26] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) mm
[02:27] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: I've investigated into sql.in file
[02:27] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) and into makefile.in
[02:27] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) into /share/
[02:27] <asac> yes
[02:28] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) but it seems that its needed for the build
[02:28] <asac> its generated
[02:28] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) generated?
[02:28] <asac> so it should be removed by distclean (-> make not rules)
[02:28] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) ah yeah
[02:28] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) generated
[02:28] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) right
[02:28] <asac> its generated by configure
[02:28] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) from .in
[02:28] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) yup
[02:29] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: 		 share/sql/default_pi_plug.sql
[02:29] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) sorry for II
[02:29] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) ^^
[02:29] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: share/sql/default_pi_plug.sql
[02:29] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) is in makefile
[02:29] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) *configure
[02:29] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) .in
[02:29] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: if i remove it from there
[02:29] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) (like i did for docs/Makefile)
[02:30] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) it should be clena
[02:30] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) *clean
[02:30] <asac> bluekuja: no you *have* to generate it
[02:30] <asac> (while Makefile was just superfluous)
[02:30] <asac> bluekuja: so you have to take care that it gets removed on distclean
[02:31] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: that's not easy
[02:31] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: in Makefile.in
[02:31] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) in /share
[02:31] <asac> bluekuja: please look in share
[02:31] <asac> what is missing there?
[02:31] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) there is a libtool distclean
[02:31] <asac> there is a file missing
[02:31] <asac> either its never been in there
[02:31] <asac> or you removed it
[02:32] <asac> by accident i guess
[02:32] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: configure?
[02:32] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) makefile is there
[02:32] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) makefile.in is there
[02:32] <asac> no its not
[02:32] <asac> there is no makefile.am
[02:32] <asac> whatever happened to it
[02:33] <asac> thats most likely the root cause for this
[02:33] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: you said that .am can be named .in too
[02:33] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) e.g someone still use that
[02:33] <asac> never said that
[02:33] <asac> no
[02:33] <asac> never
[02:33] <asac> configure.ac == configure.in
[02:33] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) ahhh
[02:33] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) yeah
[02:33] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) ^^
[02:34] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) you're right
[02:34] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) misunderstood
[02:34] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: it has not been deleted
[02:34] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) upstream didnt provide it
[02:34] <asac> its not even in .upstream tree
[02:34] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) yeah
[02:35] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) because upstream didnt add it
[02:35] <asac> yeah ... then we either have to do it on our own or we cannot package it
[02:35] <asac> bug upstream
[02:35] <asac> thats a mess
[02:35] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: yeah, gonna send a mail with all stuff
[02:35] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: how can we make a Makefile.am there?
[02:36] <asac> dunno
[02:36] <asac> you have to figure out what upstream intends to do
[02:36] <asac> and then write one from scratch
[02:36] <asac> bluekuja: you already know the basics ... but maybe you will figure out
[02:36] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: mmm
[02:37] <asac> http://verlihub.cvs.sourceforge.net/verlihub/verlihub/share/Makefile.in?revision=1.1&view=markup&pathrev=MAIN
[02:37] <asac> you know how automake variables look like
[02:37] <asac> they should be still findable in that file
[02:37] <asac> so just extract those lines that are relevant from that dirty piece of shit
[02:38] <asac> and add them to a Makefile.am
[02:38] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) lol
[02:38] <asac> EXTRA_DIST
[02:38] <asac> nobase_dist_data_DATA
[02:38] <asac> nobase_data_DATA
[02:39] <asac> maybe thats it
[02:39] <asac> otherwise digg through the Makefile.in
[02:39] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: done
[02:39] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: http://pastebin.mozilla.org/86753
[02:39] <asac> don't show me
[02:39] <asac> work on it until it works :)
[02:40] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: that's the makefile.am dropped by upstream
[02:40] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) ;)
[02:40] <asac> where do you have it from?
[02:40] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: previous release
[02:40] <asac> yeah then pull it in
[02:40] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) they dropped it
[02:40] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) for an error
[02:40] <asac> bug them
[02:40] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) yup
[02:40] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) now I add it
[02:40] <asac> there package ftbfs
[02:40] <asac> yes
[02:41] <asac> where do you see that they dropped it "for an error" ?
[02:41] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: netcelli told me it
[02:41] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) (developer)
[02:41] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) e.g they forgot to add it
[02:41] <asac> actually i hate to fix upstreams problem
[02:41] <asac> they should fix it ... if they want to get distributed
[02:42] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) same, but in this case it's necessary
[02:42] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) new release will have it
[02:42] <asac> no ... usually i would just not package it
[02:42] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) ;)
[02:42] <asac> bluekuja: ask him if he can just check it into cvs?
[02:42] <asac> now
[02:43] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: he left
[02:43] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: was on dc++
[02:43] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: gonna mail him later
[02:43] <asac> yeah
[02:43] <asac> you can try the makefile.am
[02:43] <asac> but please clean up indenting and remove commented cruft
[02:44] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: anyway I think that maintainer should do this for a software he loves
[02:44] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) I used verlihub for years
[02:45] <asac> bluekuja: yeah :)
[02:45] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: you know what I mean :)
[02:45] <asac> bluekuja: its your decision :)
[02:45] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: I think you did the same for mozilla stuff
[02:45] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) ;)
[02:46] <asac> dunno ... they never forget a file :)
[02:46] <asac> at least not in something released
[02:46] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) :)
[02:46] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: it builds
[02:46] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) (not in pbuilder)
[02:46] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) but I tried as you suggested
[02:47] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) now I delete those comments inside makefile.am
[02:47] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) I push
[02:47] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) it
[02:47] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) and I update with automake
[02:47] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) so it should be ready for you
[02:47] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) :)
[02:47] <asac> yeah
[02:49] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: where should I fix indenting?
[02:49] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) you said before
[02:49] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) in which way
[02:49] <asac> in such a way that it looks nice :)
[02:49] <asac> but its not really critical
[02:49] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) well it looks nice now
[02:50] <asac> then fine
[02:50] <asac> i just saw the pastebin
[02:50] <asac> "no revisions to pull" atm
[02:50] <asac> ok will look in a few minutes
[02:50] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) yeah
[02:50] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) pushing
[02:50] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) and updating
[03:06] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: done
[03:06] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) you can build
[03:14] <asac> bluekuja: ok
[03:14] <asac> now you have to remove the .sql file in distclean::
[03:14] <asac> (in the new makefile:))
[03:14] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) :D
[03:17] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac:
[03:17] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) distclean:
[03:17] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) -rm -f file
[03:17] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) is right?
[03:18] <asac> not really ... :) see what i wrote ;)
[03:18] <asac> but you are close :)
[03:18] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) distclean::
[03:18] <asac> aha!
[03:18] <asac> ;)
[03:18] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) and under commands
[03:18] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) :D
[03:18] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) let's do it
[03:18] <asac> but give it a try
[03:18] <asac> you can check after fakeroot ./debian/rules clean
[03:18] <asac> if bzr stat yields zero output
[03:19] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) yea
[03:21] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: I get only
[03:21] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) two modified files
[03:21] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) makefile.am and .in
[03:21] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) of course
[03:21] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) for the change
[03:21] <asac> yes
[03:21] <asac> looks good
[03:21] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) no uknown
[03:22] <asac> at last :)
[03:22] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) yup^^
[03:22] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: now I push it into bzr
[03:22] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) and I ping you when done
[03:27] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: done
[03:27] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: available for build now
[03:38] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: target file `distclean' has both : and :: entries.  Stop.
[03:38] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: build failed
[03:38] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) lol
[03:39] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: distclean:
[03:39] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) was ok
[03:39] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) upstream's Makefile.in got only :
[03:41] <asac> hmm
[03:41] <asac> so using distclean: works?
[03:41] <asac> then use that
[03:41] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) ok
[03:41] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) need to push
[03:41] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) 2 more revisions
[03:41] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) ^^
[03:41] <asac> bluekuja: did you push the messed distclean revision already?
[03:42] <asac> otherwise you can still uncommit locally
[03:42] <asac> so we don't have too much garbage checkins in published repo :)
[03:42] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) already pushed
[03:42] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) :/
[03:42] <asac> ah ok
[03:42] <asac> no problem
[03:42] <asac> remember to test before pushing in future
[03:42] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) yup
[03:42] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) ok
[03:42] <asac> please remember to remember :)
[03:42] <asac> as well ;)
[03:43] <asac> 15:18 < asac> but give it a try
[03:43] <asac> 15:18 < asac> you can check after fakeroot ./debian/rules clean
[03:43] <asac> 15:18 < asac> if bzr stat yields zero output
[03:43] <asac> so why did your test work?
[03:43] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) dunno
[03:43] <asac> or didn't you test at all?
[03:44] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) it worked
[03:44] <asac> ha
[03:44] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) no
[03:44] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) it definitely worked
[03:44] <asac> that is plainly not true
[03:44] <asac> why should it stop
[03:44] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) lol
[03:44] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: I'm sure
[03:44] <asac> yeah ... after all computers are deterministic
[03:44] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) that it worked
[03:44] <asac> so if it worked back then ... it *will* work now
[03:44] <asac> its ok :)
[03:45] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: I'm checking
[03:45] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) with :
[03:45] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) instead of ::
[03:45] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) if it works
[03:45] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) I push
[03:45] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) and we are ok
[03:45] <asac> your one big "missing feature" is working organized and thoughtful
[03:45] <asac> bluekuja: double check!
[03:45] <asac> even triple check
[03:45] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: yeah
[03:45] <asac> branch locally to see if it works if you start with bzr
[03:45] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: at school same
[03:45] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) ^^
[03:45] <asac> bluekuja: but i think you will fix your "missing feature" :)
[03:45] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: yeah, it will be great!
[03:46] <asac> bluekuja: but i think you will not fix it until i let you chew on your own dirty mess for 24 hours :)
[03:46] <asac> otherwise you don't see the tradeoff :)
[03:46] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) :D
[03:46] <asac> i mean you don't feel the pain :)
[03:46] <asac> that fast actions cause
[03:47] <asac> so better try to fix it so I can help right away :)
[03:47] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: well, i'm a little less superficial
[03:47] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) e.g having clean files there doesnt matter
[03:47] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) you know  what I mean
[03:47] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) :)
[03:47] <asac> bluekuja: if it doesn't matter now
[03:47] <asac> you will run into serious troubles later
[03:48] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: yeah
[03:48] <asac> bluekuja: i just help you to get things clean
[03:48] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: keep doing it please
[03:48] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) need to do everything perfect
[03:48] <asac> so the package becomes a joy and ease to maintain ;)
[03:48] <asac> bluekuja: yeah ... but try to help me as well :) ... by thinking/checking/double checking :)
[03:48] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: yeah, sounds good! :)
[03:52] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: worked
[03:52] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) :)
[03:52] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) now it doesnt fail
[03:52] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) with @install.sh@
[03:52] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) too
[03:52] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) GREAT
[03:52] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) woohoo
[03:52] <asac> yeah
[03:53] <asac> hope you checked that before you pushed
[03:53] <asac> because i already received your push :)
[03:53] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: not pushed yet
[03:53] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) :)
[03:53] <asac> oh right
[03:53] <asac> that was the makefile.am stuff
[03:53] <asac> ok ... take your time testing
[03:54] <asac> branch locally (e.g. bzr branch /path/to/local/dir/ /path/to/new/test/dir
[03:54] <asac> )
[03:54] <asac> hehe
[03:54] <asac> and so on
[03:54] <asac> :)
[03:54] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: yeah done
[03:54] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: i tested with branch local copy
[03:55] <asac> yeah ... dif you clean
[03:55] <asac> did you clean and look at bzr stat
[03:55] <asac> ?
[03:56] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: clean
[03:57] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: i'm leaving
[03:58] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) really late
[03:58] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) I've pushed
[03:58] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) all
[03:58] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) should be ok to build now
[03:58] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) be back later
[03:58] <asac> yeah ... i will be away for the weekend :)
[03:58] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) (1 hour)
[03:58] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) same
[03:58] <asac> at the sea
[03:58] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) lol
[03:58] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) same
[03:58] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) :D
[03:58] <asac> i will look if its fine then I will push
[03:58] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) bbl
[03:58] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) ok
[03:58] <asac> otherwise ... time in on our side :)
[03:58] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) lol
[03:58] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) bbl 1 hour
[04:36] <JonathanArg> hola a todos
[04:36] <JonathanArg> qtal
[04:36] <JonathanArg> alguien habla espaol
[04:38] <JonathanArg> hola estan
[04:38] <JonathanArg> me contestan por favor
[05:18] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) 0_0
[05:18] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) who is JonathanArg
[05:18] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: was it ok?
[05:22] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) lol, asac already left for beach :P
[05:46] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) freeflying, heya
[05:47] <freeflying> bluekuja: hi
[05:47] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) :)
[07:26] <javierder> hi bluekuja
[07:27] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) heya javierder
[07:28] <javierder> hey. do you remember the package i was working on? well, there's a big issue around that. i found out that theres a similar proyect and talked with the people from that similar proyect
[07:28] <javierder> they told me the one i was working on (torrentswapper) was a copy of their proyect with bundled spyware...
[07:28] <javierder> and also told me they where working in a package for ubuntu. i told them to contact me when they have it ready, and they did sent the package to me.
[07:30] <javierder> this package is called Tribler. i'm testing it now. what should i do with it? send it to who?
[07:32] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) phone, one mom
[07:32] (armin76/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) two fathers?
[07:33] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) done
[07:33] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) armin76, huh? :D
[07:33] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) javierder, send it to me
[07:33] <javierder> ok
[07:34] <javierder> your email is...?
[07:34] (armin76/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) bluekuja: you said, one mom :P
[07:34] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) armin76, lol
[07:34] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) javierder, bluekuja@ubuntu/edubuntu
[07:34] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) javierder, please orig.tar.gz
[07:34] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) dsc
[07:34] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) and diff.gz
[07:34] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) ;)
[07:35] <javierder> bluekuja, they sent me only the .deb.
[07:35] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) javierder, -.-
[07:35] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) that's bad
[07:35] <javierder> i'll ask them for that data. np
[07:35] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) javierder, send it
[07:35] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) I check something
[07:35] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) but i need those for a complete review
[07:36] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) armin76, are you a packager too?
[07:36] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) armin76, for ebuilds?
[07:37] (armin76/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) yup
[07:37] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) armin76, I'm interested in learning them
[07:38] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) armin76, also for the group you work
[07:38] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) as far as its related to torrents
[07:38] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) and other p2p
[07:38] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) apps
[07:39] (armin76/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) it's not hard :)
[07:39] (armin76/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) i'd say is more easy than packaging deb stuff
[07:39] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) armin76, cool
[07:40] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) armin76, do you any guide?
[07:40] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) javierder, I dont think that this is a good desc:
[07:40] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) The fastest way of social file sharing
[07:40] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) Homepage: http://www.tribler.org
[07:40] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) ^^
[07:40] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) it has to be rich
[07:40] (armin76/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) http://devmanual.gentoo.org
[07:40] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) of points
[07:41] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) armin76, nice
[07:41] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) armin76, is all based on bash
[07:41] <javierder> bluekuja, ok. i'll send them an email with what we need (orig.tar.gz and diff.gz) and ask them for a better description
[07:42] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) javierder, wait
[07:42] <javierder> ok
[07:42] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) checking other stuff
[07:42] <javierder> np
[07:42] <javierder> let me know
[07:43] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) javierder, http://pastebin.mozilla.org/86799
[07:44] <javierder> those are warnings and erros in the package?
[07:44] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) armin76, how does gentoo administrate uploads?
[07:44] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) javierder, yea
[07:44] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) javierder, the package have to be lintian/linda clean
[07:44] <javierder> bluekuja, ok, thanks! how did you get those errors?
[07:44] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) *to start*
[07:44] <javierder> bluekuja, ok.
[07:45] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) javierder, and I'm sure that they didnt follow python policy
[07:45] <javierder> bluekuja, ok. i'll talk to them and probably do the package myself :)
[07:45] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) javierder, look at control file
[07:46] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) there's no python version
[07:46] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) nothing