[17:11] <mbruzek> rick_h_: thanks for adding us to the analytics
[17:18] <rick_h_> mbruzek: np
[20:58] <Spizmar_> Hi, hatch directed me here with a problem.
[20:59] <rick_h_> Spizmar_: drop it on us
[20:59] <hatch> hey Spizmar_
[21:00] <Spizmar_> I delete my environment and boot strap it, and deploy juju-gui, and some other charms, relations and expose them
[21:01] <Spizmar_> When I point to the juju-gui server (which is the bootstrap machine), the browser just spins,
[21:01] <hatch> http://askubuntu.com/questions/600872/juju-gui-web-server-hangs-what-server-does-it-use
[21:02] <hatch> Spizmar_: the images you're using for your environment - do they have python installed?
[21:02] <Spizmar_> This would not normally shosk me, as I am new to this and have broken about everything i've touched, but I do this all through a script, which I can upload, and the scriupt has worked fine, previiously.
[21:03] <Spizmar_> If they need it, they had it three days ago, as I am doing everything locally, and have not refreshed any images for weeks.
[21:04] <hatch> ok so you have the gui deployed now and are you getting the python.h error again?
[21:05] <rick_h_> Spizmar_: what version of juju and juju-gui are you using?
[21:05] <rick_h_> hatch: Spizmar_ don't worry about the python.h error. It's just a performance speed up that it can use if it's available, but not required
[21:06] <hatch> rick_h_: ohh ok - I thought gui wasn't building
[21:06] <rick_h_> hatch: Spizmar_ focus on why the gui can't talk to the server. I'm guessing there's a network issue or something there
[21:06] <Spizmar_> Thank you.  Let me check.  I was just assosiating that with the octave-controller problem
[21:06] <rick_h_> hatch: you can find out for sure if it's running by running 'ps aux' on the box and looking for the guiserver. And checking the /var/log/upstart/guiserver.log
[21:06] <rick_h_> Spizmar_: it could be, I'm not sure what octave is
[21:06] <rick_h_> Spizmar_: if you deploy multiple services onto the same machine you have to watch out for what ports they use
[21:07] <hatch> ahh octave is being d eployed to the same machine...
[21:07] <rick_h_> hatch: right, all that is getting sent to machine 0
[21:07] <rick_h_> hatch: so I'd walk with Spizmar_ through looking at the browser console for connection issues, (network tab/etc)
[21:08] <hatch> yeah sounds good
[21:08] <rick_h_> hatch: and then going through the guiserver.log to see if it can't start/run due to ports being conflicting or the like
[21:08] <rick_h_> hatch: in which case, set the gui to run on a different port (8080 or the like) and see if that helps at all
[21:09]  * rick_h_ runs away now for a while and leaves it in hatch's capable hands
[21:09] <rick_h_> hatch: Spizmar_ and if you figure it out make sure to update the AU question please
[21:09] <Spizmar_> Octave-controller is being deployed on a different machine, octave, which doesn't use python, is being deployed on the bootstrap machine, but it was when it worked.  I was modifying the octave-controller install script when this happened, which is deployed on a different machine.
[21:10] <hatch> Spizmar_: ok so lets start from the beginning
[21:10] <hatch> ps -aux | grep guiserver
[21:11]  * hatch spins up local env to work along side
[21:11] <Spizmar_> juju-gui is running, because I just got a warning that this is not a trusted machine, which is expected behavior.
[21:11] <hatch> oh ok so when you say you get the spinner you actually get the GUI spinner?
[21:11] <hatch> grey background and the like?
[21:12] <hatch> Does it say "Loading the GUI" or "Connecting to Environment" ?
[21:12] <Spizmar_> Nope.  I was too hopefull.  guiserver is not running.
[21:12] <hatch> oh ok then
[21:13] <hatch> :)
[21:13] <hatch> ok ssh into the machine and open up /var/log/upstart/guiserver.log
[21:13] <Spizmar_> let me strip my script down to just destroying my env, bootstrapping and deploying juju-gui.
[21:13] <hatch> sure
[21:13] <Spizmar_> Wait one
[21:13] <hatch> np
[21:14] <Spizmar_> What do you want me to look for
[21:14] <hatch> something which indicates why it's not running :)
[21:15] <Spizmar_> Because that is a lot faster than a boot strap
[21:15] <hatch> is this a MAAS environment?
[21:18] <Spizmar_> yes.
[21:20] <Spizmar_> I just tried to login from the maas server machine so I could copy and paste, and it looks like I'm here, but there is no one elase here.
[21:21] <hatch> you ran 'juju ssh juju-gui/0' ?
[21:21] <Spizmar_> iostream:409 error on read while listening on port 443, if that helps. (/var/log/upstart/guiserver.log)
[21:22] <Spizmar_> No, I tried to get into #juju-gui on freenode from my maas server.
[21:23] <hatch> ahh ok so something else is using 443
[21:24] <hatch> netstat -tulpn | grep :443
[21:24] <hatch> or you can change the port for the GUI if you need to as well
[21:25] <Spizmar_> LOL  Let me try that.  I have expertise to do that at hand, and the guy who wrote the octave stuff hasn't returned any emails :)
[21:26] <hatch> you'll need to run that netstat on the machine you have the gui deployed to
[21:29] <Spizmar_> It was not that.  No processes came up using that search.  And it is in the tornado libraries, which is where the compiler presented the error.
[21:30] <hatch> yeah for some reason it is not able to bind to that port
[21:31] <hatch> you could try setting it to another port and then tail the log
[21:31] <hatch> juju set juju-gui port=8888
[21:31] <hatch> from the 'client' machine
[21:32] <Spizmar_> My mistake, there is something listening there.  I had exited and was running the netstat on my maas server.
[21:35] <Spizmar_> On the client machine, it does not know about the "juju" command.
[21:35] <hatch> the machine which you typed 'juju deploy' on is the client machine, sorry :)
[21:37] <Spizmar_> OK, did that, now I get an immediate failure to connect, and 10:0:1:21:8888spins
[21:38] <hatch> https://<IP_ADDRESS>:8888
[21:38] <Spizmar_> Yes
[21:39] <hatch> ok and does the guiserver.log have anything in it? Or is it running now
[21:39] <hatch> you should get an ssl error because of the self signed cert in the browser
[21:40] <hatch> I'm assuming of course that your machine allows connections to 8888 :)
[21:41] <hatch> you may want to find out what else is listening on 443 and kill it if it's not supposed to be there
[21:42] <Spizmar_> It says start juju gui ver, ets, and listening on port 8888
[21:43] <hatch> ok and if you run netstat on that machine it shows that it's listening on 8888?
[21:48] <Spizmar_> Yes, on IP4 & ip6.  I did sudo ufw disable, and retried the connection from the maas server and it still spins.  I'm going to find a different unused port, try it from the maas server to see how fast ibefore it complains, then change the juju-gui port, and try it again, and see how long that takes.
[21:49] <Spizmar_> After that, I'm going to run the script with the other charms removed and see how it works.
[21:50] <hatch> yeah you should start with a fresh image because it seems like something is preventing the server from talking out
[21:50] <Spizmar_> The thing that was on port 443 is gone.   I think juju-gui was the thing holding the port.
[21:53] <hatch> Spizmar_: ok so if 443 is open again lets change the gui back to 443, tailing the logs, see if it boots up properly
[21:55] <hatch> I just tested a local env and aws env and the latest gui deployed properly so I know that it's working as far as LXC and AWS are concerned :)
[21:55] <Spizmar_> btw, I tried port 222, firefox immediately recognized there wasn't anything there, then I changed the juju-gui port, and it is spinning away.
[21:58] <hatch> so the guiserver log isn't showing anything when you try and access that port?
[22:00] <hatch> it's really hard to debug this over irc haha - I'd probably install lynx on the same machine the guiserver is on and see if it can access it
[22:06] <Spizmar_> Sorry about that, my connection froze.  What was the last thing you saw from me, hatch?
[22:06] <hatch> that you tried 222
[22:06] <hatch> I was saying I would install lynx to the GUi machine to see if I could access it locally - rule out any firewall business
[22:09] <Spizmar_> I can tell you that my corporate firewall will rule that out.  Between the two machines is a blank managed switch.  The two machines have both had ufw disabled.
[22:10] <Spizmar_> I tried 222, and firefox immediately detected that there was nothing there, I switched juju-gui's port to 222, and firefox started spinning.
[22:10] <hatch> but nothing showed up in the guiserver logs?
[22:11] <Spizmar_> I changed it back to 443 and rebooted it, and it came up fine, in the sense that there were no additional errors in the log, but it displays the same symptoms.
[22:11] <hatch> what if you try chrome/ium?
[22:12] <Spizmar_> The log showed the change in the ports, though.
[22:13] <hatch> to rule out the browser we could also try this
[22:14] <hatch> wget https://<IP_ADDRESS>/juju-ui/version.js
[22:14] <hatch> wget --no-check-certificate https://<IP_ADDRESS>/juju-ui/version.js
[22:14] <hatch> sorry
[22:17] <hatch> wget --no-check-certificate https://<IP_ADDRESS>/juju-ui/version.js
[22:17] <hatch> Spizmar_: did you get that ^
[22:18] <Spizmar_> And again.  Corporate has the IRC port blocked so I can't use a client and this webchat thing is not looking too stable.
[22:19] <hatch> might be time to set up a proxy :)
[22:19] <Spizmar_> Well, juju gui server version is 0.4.2
[22:19] <hatch> I was trying to see if the guiserver is working - if it is it will return the that file
[22:20] <hatch> 0.4.2?
[22:21] <Spizmar_> 0,4,2 is from the log file, it did return the file.  Not sure what to do with it.
[22:22] <hatch> cat version.js
[22:22] <hatch> ok it returned the file!
[22:22] <hatch> that means the server is running and that you can access it
[22:22] <hatch> and that something firefoxy is causing the issue
[22:23] <hatch> are there any errors in the browser console?
[22:23] <hatch> I'd be very interested to know if you can access it using chrome/chromium
[22:25] <Spizmar_> I'm already pushing real hard on ITs envelope by having the maas server connected, and bringing up an HPC cluster they don't own
[22:25] <hatch> :) keep pushing!
[22:25] <Spizmar_> Firefox debugger says "this page has no souce"
[22:26] <Spizmar_> I do :)  I just make sure the fights have a good purpose
[22:26] <hatch> ok this is very odd - because clearly the guiserver is working if you got the version.js file downloaded
[22:26] <hatch> but firefox will not open the page
[22:27] <Spizmar_> So what file should it be down loading, or what should be constructing the text, that it isn't getting?
[22:27] <hatch> well did that wget download the file?
[22:27] <hatch> you should have seen some sort of progress bar
[22:28] <hatch> sorry I've just been assuming you're on Ubuntu....
[22:28] <hatch> what machine are you working from :)
[22:29] <hatch> Spizmar_: I think that I might know what the issue is - can you follow this https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/refresh-firefox-reset-add-ons-and-settings
[22:29] <Spizmar_> Yes, the system I'm doing this work on is ubuntu.  The system I'm on right now is win7.  My chairs runners are getting a workout.
[22:29] <Spizmar_> The version was 1.3.3, BTW
[22:29] <hatch> haha
[22:29] <hatch> ok new enough :)
[22:30] <Spizmar_> And in the middle, I am grazing on my lunch
[22:30] <hatch> lunch, must be west coast?
[22:30] <Spizmar_> Do you want me top  go ahead and do the rebuild?
[22:31] <Spizmar_> LA, but it's 1530 here
[22:31] <Spizmar_> "Running late and keeping you up to date"
[22:31] <hatch> well I want to get a fresh profile - see this issue https://bugs.launchpad.net/juju-gui/+bug/1397296
[22:31] <mup> Bug #1397296: GUI inaccessible in Firefox 33.0 <hs-arm64> <landscape> <juju-gui:Confirmed for hatch> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1397296>
[22:35] <Spizmar_> I can see the +bug, the second says I don't need to know.  I'm reading.
[22:38] <Spizmar_> I had to do a reboot of the maas server yesterday, and I don't remember what the updates were, if firefox had an update.
[22:40] <hatch> yeah I'd be interested to know if you try a new profile as noted in that bug if you can access it
[22:43] <Spizmar_> trying to bring it up on my maas server
[22:51] <Spizmar_> Did the refresh, It has no effect on the symptoms.  I'm going to do the rebuild.
[22:51] <hatch> *hmph* I'm running out of ideas
[22:52] <hatch> :)
[22:52] <Spizmar_> Unless you want any of the logs or the bootstrap debug output?
[22:53] <hatch> nah - see the server is working because you were able to download that js file
[22:53] <Spizmar_> Hey, I ran out ideas yesterday :)
[22:53] <hatch> and your network is allowing the connection (because you were able to download the file)
[22:53] <hatch> so that leaves us at the browser?!?
[22:54] <Spizmar_> OK, I will download chrome.
[22:54] <hatch> shhh don't tell IT
[22:55] <Spizmar_> I'm not even sure they've heard Microsoft has killed IR
[22:55] <Spizmar_> IE
[22:55] <hatch> haha
[22:56] <hatch> that will be awesome when IE goes evergreen
[22:56] <Spizmar_> It is all they support, with a list of our own sites you have to use other browsers to use.
[23:01] <Spizmar_> went right to it.  Expect a wave of these, as the new update of whatever was updated trickles down to peoples juju-gui machines.
[23:01] <hatch> so you did a fresh firefox install?
[23:01] <Spizmar_> Do you know how I can list what was updated yesterday, so we can weed through them to find out which one it was, if you want?
[23:01] <hatch> sorry I have no idea...
[23:02] <hatch> or you tried with chrome you mean
[23:02] <Spizmar_> I didn't update firefox.
[23:02] <Spizmar_> I tried with chrome and it works great.
[23:03] <Spizmar_> That means something in yesterdays install broke something.
[23:03] <hatch> damn...
[23:04] <Spizmar_> I don't know if it directly broke firefox, or if it broke something one that is used by juju-gui, and that breaks fire fox.
[23:04] <hatch> Would you be able to comment on that launchpad bug saying that you are having the same issue and the reset settings fix did not work
[23:04] <Spizmar_> Sure will.
[23:05] <hatch> thanks!
[23:05] <hatch> of course this doesn't fix your issue - but at least if you comment on the bug you'll be notified when we figure out what's going on...
[23:05] <Spizmar_> That you!  I get very bull dog when I'm tired, and I'm tired, and I'd never have thought of using a different browser.
[23:06] <hatch> the issue with this bug is that noone on the GUI team can reproduce it
[23:06] <hatch> but obviously it's an issue heh
[23:06] <Spizmar_> LOL! It fixes MY problem I could care less if it's firefox or chrome!
[23:07] <hatch> haha yay! Well now you can go update the AU question :)
[23:07] <Spizmar_> I think this update probably makes it a lot easier to reproduce.  I never had the problem before yesterday.
[23:08] <hatch> hmm nope, even after the update still works fine here...
[23:08] <hatch> *close* WFM! lol jk
[23:08] <Spizmar_> After a boostrap?
[23:09] <hatch> yep
[23:09] <Spizmar_> Well, it may not make it easier for you, but it may make it easier for us out her :)
[23:10] <hatch> well I'm glad I got you going again at least :)
[23:11] <Spizmar_> Me too.  Is there a channel for charms in general, or for apache, or a place to see what channels there are?
[23:12] <hatch> #juju and #juju-dev
[23:12] <hatch> #juju-dev is mostly for actual juju development
[23:12] <hatch> so you're probably looking for #juju
[23:12] <Spizmar_> Great, thanks!
[23:13] <hatch> there is also the juju mailing list - juju at lists dot ubuntu dot com
[23:13] <Spizmar_> I'm heading off to put the anser in the question have a good one!
[23:13] <hatch> you too, cya


 How do you boot xubuntu with lilo?
[02:00] <drc> Jarsoom766: You wanting to dualboot xubuntu and slackware?
[02:00] <Jarsoom766> Yup
[02:00] <drc> http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-distributions-5/dual-boot-ubuntu-and-slackware-13-37-a-4175423036/
[02:00] <Jarsoom766> I have Absolute Linux and Xubuntu on the same disk
[02:01] <Jarsoom766> I boot Xubuntu, it gets to tty1, system freezes.
[02:01] <Jarsoom766> Doesn't recognize keystrokes or mouse
[02:01] <drc> You'd do better asking on LinuxQueations, as they actually use lilo
[02:01] <drc> or ##slackware
[02:01] <Jarsoom766> Aye
[03:45] <G__81> when i do a git clone i get this warning for every repo
[03:45] <G__81> the warning is
[03:45] <G__81> WARNING: gnome-keyring:: couldn't connect to: /tmp/keyring-pndHdL/pkcs11: No such file or directory
[03:45] <G__81> can someone tell me how to suppress this ?
[03:45] <G__81> and sometimes i get the gnome-keyring dialog box appear on screen when i go to some website it comes up randomly
[03:46] <G__81> i am not sure whether these two problems are inter connected
[03:49] <xubuntu463> hello
[04:04] <unheeding> can anyone help me to customize the trash icon in XFCE?
[04:05] <tech1> you can use a different icon theme pack
[04:05] <tech1> or duplicate the one you are using and edit the trash icon for it
[04:07] <unheeding> could i just go to the trash icon and replace it with the one i want?
[04:07] <tech1> maybe. let me see
[04:08] <tech1> with the Nautilus file explorer you can edit folders with right click, propeties.....not sure about the trash though. i cant find that folder
[04:08] <G__81>  when i do a git clone i get this warning for every repo
[04:08] <G__81>  WARNING: gnome-keyring:: couldn't connect to: /tmp/keyring-pndHdL/pkcs11: No such file or directory
[04:08] <G__81> how do i suppress this ?
[04:09] <drc> tech1: ~/.local/share/Trash
[04:09] <G__81> and sometimes i get the gnome-keyring dialog box appear on screen when i go to some website it comes up randomly
[04:10] <tech1> ok. the ~/.local/share/Trash icon is just a regular folder icon in my nautilus..... so the "Rubbish Bin" on the desktop and side panel probably gets the icon from the icon theme
[04:11] <tech1> so just go to settings > appearance > icons and choose a different theme.
[04:13] <unheeding> but the icon i want to use is not part of a particular theme
[04:14] <tech1> well you can create your own theme, just duplicate the theme you have(with a new name), whch will keep your current icons, then edit the one you want to change
[04:15] <tech1> it would be simpler to edit the system theme without duplicating the theme, but i wouldnt recommend that
[04:31] <unheeding> wow I did it
[04:31] <unheeding> thanks tech1
[04:31] <tech1> cool
[04:32] <unheeding> man i am so impressed with my skills
[04:33] <tech1> keep it up :)
[04:35] <unheeding> here is the finished result: http://i.imgur.com/lTKhm.jpg
[04:36] <tech1> cute
[04:45] <unheeding> Ponies... ponies everywhere!
[05:37] <unheeding> Xubuntu is so awesome!
[05:38] <unheeding> hooray for team Xubuntu
[05:38] <unheeding> hip hip hooray!
[05:41] <knome> unheeding, re: your question some days ago; yes, i use xfce ;)
[05:42] <unheeding> impressive that you remembered
[05:43] <unheeding> i use xfce now too
[05:43] <unheeding> it's all customized and stuff
[05:44] <knome> i have backlogs to remind me ;)
[05:44] <unheeding> how do you set that up?
[05:57] <testy> unheeding: testing your script
[05:58] <knome> unheeding, i run irssi under a screen, so my irc client is always on
[05:59] <unheeding> knome: i installed a script called hilightwin.pl, it says it created a window named hilight... but how do i access it?
[06:00] <knome> unheeding, which client? irssi?
[06:00] <unheeding> yes
[06:00] <knome> alt+numbers
[06:00] <unheeding> it's not in any of the numbers
[06:00] <unheeding> just the main window and channels are available
[06:01] <knome> hmm, then i don't know, i'm not familiar with the script
[06:02] <unheeding> i'll ty the one from scripts.irssi.org
[06:03] <unheeding> ooh i think it worked
[06:03] <testy> unheeding: did it work?
[06:04] <unheeding> yes, yes it did
[06:05] <unheeding> nice
[07:42] <Andy80> hello
[07:43] <Andy80> one question: Ubuntu will almost surely remove the alternate-install CDs starting from the next release. Are you going to follow the same path or are you thinking about keeping the alternate-install? Thanks
[07:44] <knome> Andy80, we are discussing it, but it looks like we're going to drop it as well
[07:44] <Andy80> bad news then :(
[07:44] <knome> there are other ways: netboot and minimal iso
[07:45] <knome> we have no manpower to maintain the alternates if ubuntu drops them, that's one of the main arguments for dropping
[07:46] <Andy80> I've nothing agains graphic installers, but.... think about RAID setup for example... it won't be ready for 12.10
[07:46] <Andy80> oh.. I can understand it then
[07:46] <Andy80> if Ubuntu drops it you would have to do the whole work yourself
[07:46] <knome> you can use 12.04 then, or any release after that supports RAID
[07:51] <Andy80> well.. probably it's easier to use the server version
[07:52] <Sysi> mini.iso has alt installer with raid capabilities
[07:52] <knome> Andy80, yeah, there's server too. though they are probably going to drop server i386 too.
[07:53] <knome> they are looking to reduce the ISO/build amount, and this is a very effective way
[07:56] <Andy80> well... at least they should clearly state: we want to get rid of old PCs
[07:56] <Andy80> it would be more honest :P
[07:57] <Andy80> keep in mind anyway that lot of times (even with recent hardware... 2-3 years) we had problems with graphic installer... in particular with very cheap graphic cards
[07:57] <Andy80> and we had to use the alternate-install
[07:57] <knome> the thing is
[07:57] <knome> ubiquity (the graphical installer) might not work with all cards, but that's because people have been sent to alternate
[07:57] <Andy80> so starting from 12.10 it could be impossible for us (us/we: I talk in name of the linux user group I manage) to install Ubuntu on our PCs
[07:58] <knome> now, instead of sending to alternate, we will make people file the bugs, and they'll probably be fixed
[07:58] <Andy80> yeah, that's the point---
[07:58] <knome> you can always use the 12.04 ISO - that's LTS, and it's no way "obsolete"
[07:58] <Andy80> they should have already been fixed... that's not the way, imho
[07:58] <knome> of course. but you didn't fix them :)
[07:59] <knome> i mean, not that we wouldn't like them to be fixed, but they aren't
[07:59] <Andy80> I've no skills to fix a bug with a graphic card, or I would have done it :)
[07:59] <knome> i'm sure ubiquity has been getting better
[07:59] <knome> the release after LTS is the right time to do this change
[08:00] <knome> wouldn't make sense to try to upkeep it for a few more releases, since there won't be an LTS
[08:02] <Sysi> about any graphics card should boot with "xforcevesa" option
[08:05] <Kingsy> anyone know of a nice ical app that sits in the notifaction area or something?
[08:10] <Andy80> old good days with text installer and recompiling kernel with my own optimizations as first thing to do ;)
[08:12] <livingdaylight> guys, is there a social-networking site like diaspora, open-source, protect and honor our privacy but that can connect with other services such as Google- and fciabook. What I loathe is "lock-in" where, whether its skype [good example] users are locked-in to one app or service to access other users /friends using that particular app/service
[08:13] <livingdaylight> diaspora looks good but seems to suffer from lock-in. that creates a battle, where either everyone migrates to one or another service - whatever the herd decides is most popular
[08:14] <livingdaylight> can become a self-fullfilling prophecy and remove our choice
[08:15] <knome> livingdaylight, i don't think so
[08:15] <livingdaylight> hrmm... shame - its what we need. Its what I want anyway.
[08:29] <marcappuccino> I guess since its not a real binary application lol
[08:29] <Sysi> Kingsy: it would be better to move it to ~/.local/share/applications/
[08:29] <marcappuccino>  a .desktop file should be in /usr/share/xsessions and it contains desktops like xfce lxde unity etc
[08:29] <marcappuccino> ...but why what do you hope to acheive with this
[08:29] <Sysi> .desktop files are in those application folders and they're used for menus
[08:30] <Sysi> also should I say
[08:30] <Kingsy> well I added the item manually and it works ok
[08:30] <marcappuccino> ...but why what do you hope to acheive with this
[08:30] <Kingsy> so you say the reason it didnt appear was because it was in the wrong folder?
[08:31] <Kingsy> marcappuccino: I don't understand what your asking, I want to add an application to the application menu so I can run it? heh
[08:31] <Sysi> Kingsy: could be, or wrong permissions
[08:32] <marcappuccino> oh so the 'application' is a shortcut to your 'sunbird.sh' (app?)
[08:32] <Kingsy> yeah
[08:33] <Kingsy> Sysi: i just assigned it to the root user.. perhaps it should have been my user?
[08:34] <Sysi> Kingsy: I've always operated in $HOME so I don't really know
[08:38] <Kingsy> np
[09:25] <nicklas> Hi All. If start my laptop with a HDMI monitor connected, my Xubuntu 12.04 system will not boot and gives the following error: drm_crtc_helper set_config error failed to set mode on crtc:5. I haven't been able to find anything online. Is this a common problem?
[09:27] <TheSheep> one would think that you would find something online if it was common, personally I never heard of it
[09:27] <TheSheep> you might want to check out the forums, and if there is nothing, report a bug
[09:27] <TheSheep> !forums | nicklas
[09:27] <TheSheep> !bugs | nicklas
[15:51] <Ileden> I just installed xubuntu on my desktop computer. Desktop performance is very, very slow. My video adapter is: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI RV 630 XT AGP [Radeon HD 2600 XT AGP]
[15:53] <Ileden> I did try the FGLRX proprietary driver, but it doesn't help.
[16:19] <FounderOf420> I'm on 12.04.1 do i need to install some extra packgs to mount my android device?
[16:19] <FounderOf420> getting no detection what-so-ever
[16:19] <blackgatonegro> well, lets me see
[16:25] <blackgatonegro> well, did you install the propietary drivers?
[16:27] <FounderOf420> from samsung? no. they don't have a linux driver, only a .msi format
[16:27] <blackgatonegro> no I mean the ones in xubuntu
[16:27] <blackgatonegro> the ones to read audio and video files
[16:27] <blackgatonegro> like mp3 and that
[16:28] <FounderOf420> yeah, but only via the option at the install.
[16:28] <blackgatonegro> install those
[16:28] <FounderOf420> is that the 'restricted-extras' ?
[16:28] <blackgatonegro> yes
[16:28] <blackgatonegro> install the xubuntu ones
[16:29] <blackgatonegro> xubuntu should show the android phone as  as a portable storage device when you plug it in, if its not, try to reboot the computer with the android phone conected
[16:29] <FounderOf420> ok
[16:30] <blackgatonegro> but you need the restricted extras to play most video and audio files formats
[16:30] <blackgatonegro> on xubuntu
[16:31] <Sysi> http://askubuntu.com/questions/146529/how-to-connect-samsung-galaxy-s3-via-usb
[16:32] <FounderOf420> i use vlc for all my vids so i havent needed restricted-extras in quite a while
[16:32] <blackgatonegro> well, it still helps
[16:33] <blackgatonegro> audacious is a pain with some codecs -_-
[16:34] <FounderOf420> certainly does help
[16:35] <blackgatonegro> vlc on linux does not include dvd decoding by default, so you need to install medibuntu for that
[16:35] <FounderOf420> thanks sysi, i installed a couple addition mtp pkgs
[16:36] <Unit193> !medibuntu
[16:36] <FounderOf420> ok ill grab the repo upon reboot
[16:36] <blackgatonegro> it seems you have a hardware specific issue, as android and ubuntu have become more compatible lately
[16:36] <blackgatonegro> !help
[16:37] <FounderOf420> that's what i thought, i remember on my old desktop running 10.* that it would just mount right away
[16:37] <blackgatonegro> 12.4x does have some issues, but conpatibility with android is not one of them
[16:38] <Sysi> MTP is samsung special
[16:39] <blackgatonegro> some cell phones are a pain, thats why I check tons of reviews before buying
[16:42] <FounderOf420> i'm using a galaxy s2 fascinate, 'twas a hand-me-down
[16:43] <FounderOf420> i shall return, thanks for the inputs
[16:43] <blackgatonegro> ok
[16:54] <FounderOf420> hrm, no love
[16:55] <drc> Not without protection.
[16:55] <FounderOf420> i rebooted with the phone attached but no detection. then rebooted the phone while attached and the phone detected the connection. i selected connect to usb but no computer detection still
[16:55] <FounderOf420> lsusb reveals nothing
[16:57] <blackgatonegro> mmm
[16:57] <blackgatonegro> tried to mount with disk utility on xubuntu?
[16:58] <TheSheep> FounderOf420: is this an android 4.x phone?
[16:58] <TheSheep> because the new androids are no longer visible as usb disks
[16:58] <FounderOf420> no 2.3.5 i believe
[16:59] <TheSheep> they use mtp protocol to transfer files through usb
[16:59] <TheSheep> which means that on mac and linux (or anything not windows, really) you need a special application
[16:59] <TheSheep> gmtp works for me fine
[16:59] <FounderOf420> i have the mtp pckgs installed and the banshee plugin as well
[17:00] <FounderOf420> ok ill check that out
[17:00] <TheSheep> FounderOf420: you can see if your computer sees the device with the "lsusb" command in terminal
[17:00] <TheSheep> it will list all your usb connected devices
[17:00] <FounderOf420> lsusb showed me no devices
[17:00] <blackgatonegro> how about disk utility?
[17:01] <TheSheep> if lsusb doesn't show it, then something is wrong with the connection
[17:01] <TheSheep> FounderOf420: anything relevant in dmesg?
[17:02] <FounderOf420> unable to enumerate USB device on port 1
[17:02] <FounderOf420> device descriptor read/64, error -71
[17:02] <FounderOf420> [  255.180158] usb 3-1: new low-speed USB device number 15 using uhci_hcd
[17:03] <FounderOf420> device not accepting address 21, error -71
[17:03] <blackgatonegro> mmm
[17:03] <TheSheep> FounderOf420: I had number -71 once, and it turned out to be a faulty usb cable, but in this case this can be anything
[17:04] <FounderOf420> i've had trouble with cables before but i've tried every one i have. even a brand new one from a Galaxy S3
[17:04] <TheSheep> FounderOf420: it may be also the socket, or any internal connection, or something not related to the cables at all
[17:04] <blackgatonegro> well
[17:04] <TheSheep> as far as I know error 71 is a generic protocl error
[17:05] <blackgatonegro> lets try the cable first
[17:05] <TheSheep> protocol
[17:05] <TheSheep> and a different socket
[17:05] <TheSheep> but it could also be something with the phone :(
[17:06] <blackgatonegro> well some phones hardware doesnt like ubuntu
[17:06] <blackgatonegro> does your phone have a micro sd card?
[17:06] <TheSheep> I doubt it's ubuntu specifically, it follows the standard protocol after all
[17:07] <FounderOf420> yes, microSD
[17:07] <FounderOf420> i think it has to be the phone
[17:07] <blackgatonegro> you could use an adapter and conect the microSD, that willwork for sure
[17:07] <blackgatonegro> is not a direct conection, but it will work.
[17:08] <FounderOf420> yeah i have ana dapter, also android sync manager to sync over wifi. but i really want to root this POS and get a new ROM
[17:08] <FounderOf420> there's 4 pages of verizon apps on here by default.. its disgusting lol
[17:09] <blackgatonegro> you could update android os
[17:09] <FounderOf420> hmmm i think this phone is a refurb... theres an 'asurion' sticker under the battery
[17:09] <blackgatonegro> ok then
[17:09] <FounderOf420> what the hell... they probably scrambled the insides
[17:10] <blackgatonegro> would explain why usb does not work well
[17:10] <FounderOf420> maaaaaan... that's garbage
[17:12] <FounderOf420> theres really nothing i can do about that eh?
[17:14] <blackgatonegro> yup
[17:15] <FounderOf420> perhaps Mr. Hammer can fix it >:[
[17:15] <drc> oh no mr bill !
[17:17] <En-> when i launch xubuntu from my live cd im getting the screen resolution too low.. any ideas why_
[17:17] <blackgatonegro> cause is a live cd
[17:17] <blackgatonegro> is does not have the video drivers installed
[17:18] <En-> if i install it it should be good then_
[17:18] <En-> ?
[17:19] <FounderOf420> the proper drivers should be installed. whats your default resolution?
[17:19] <drc> and video card?
[17:22] <En-> Radeon HD 6310
[17:26] <FounderOf420> blackgatonegro is probably right. i've never had that issue but i always use generic onboard video drivers. upon install you will se an icon on desktop that says 'additional hardware drivers' which will install what you need
[17:51] <Guest5674> im getting an error during installation "it was not possible to install the bootloader at the specific location "
[17:54] <drc> Guest5674: My guess would be that you did not make the proper choice of where to install the bootloader (i.e., sdb1 [the usb stick] instead of sda1 [the hdd]...as examples)
[17:55] <drc> Not sure why installing from a USB sick defaults to the USB stick, but....
[17:55] <xyz_> <<<<****^& H1, duz 4ny0n3 w4nt t0 cyb3rd4t3? &^****>>>>
[17:56] <Guest5674> well yes
[17:56] <Guest5674> im installing from usb
[17:58] <drc> Guest5674: Re-install...pay close attentionto the appropriate screen (iirc, it's the partition screen, at the bottom) where it asks you where you want to install the bootloader.
[17:58] <Guest5674> i need to choose a different device to install the bootloader
[17:58] <drc> yes
[17:58] <Guest5674> now its asking me to choose another device
[17:58] <Guest5674> which should be it?
[17:59] <drc> Is this a single OS (xubuntu only) or a dual boot (say, windows and xubuntu)
[17:59] <Guest5674> should it be /dev/sda
[18:00] <Guest5674> its shared with windows 7
[18:00] <Guest5674> dual boot
[18:00] <xyz_> <<<<****^& H1, duz 4ny0n3 w4nt t0 cyb3rd4t3? &^****>>>>
[18:00] <xyz_> <<<<****^& H1, duz 4ny0n3 w4nt t0 cyb3rd4t3? &^****>>>>
[18:00] <xyz_> <<<<****^& H1, duz 4ny0n3 w4nt t0 cyb3rd4t3? &^****>>>>
[18:01] <drc> Can some one with dual boot experience work with him, I never dual boot and have no knowledge of what goes where.
[18:02] <holstein> Guest5674: i wouldnt guess at the partitions
[18:02] <holstein> Guest5674: you can always *not* install a boot loadaer and do it later
[18:03] <holstein> Guest5674: i would suggest you have all your data backed up, and windows either mirrored or be prepared to reinstall if errors occur
[18:03] <holstein> installing a bootloader for dualboot is not that big of a deal though assuming something has gone wrong.. i always reference
[18:03] <holstein> !grub
[18:03] <holstein> there are how-to's for "restoring grub using a live CD
[18:04] <FounderOf420> yea the xubuntu installer defaults to the usb disk for some reason :/ almost caught me off guard as well
[18:16] <autif> does anyone know what package I need to install to 'use REST::Client;' in perl? I can't seem to be able to find it
[18:24] <Guest5674> i dont want to screw it up
[18:25] <holstein> Guest5674: correct.. and what i suggest is, plan for having already screwed it up, and you'll be fine.. know how to recover windows. the windows MBR.. grub from a live CD.. whatever you might "screw up"
[18:26] <Guest5674> ok
[19:52] <jessejazza> I'm trouble playing DVD on 12.04 - there's something i've overlooked. I've installed the codecs package.
[20:00] <David-A> jessejazza: I believe there is a script to run to install dvd decryption (not even in restricted extras, so full of patents is it)
[20:01] <Sysi> !dvdcss
[20:01] <Sysi> !libdvdcss
[20:02] <jessejazza> I don't know i been an LTS user... the negative being one doesn't install often enough to remember all the changes! I've looked up on the ubuntu support. there's something i've missed
[20:05] <jessejazza> it is a commercial DVD i'm trying to play - legitimate and paid for!
[20:07] <unheeding> there's your problem
[20:07] <unheeding> this is why i pirate
[20:08] <jessejazza> dvdcss, libdvdcss seem deprecated from wehat i can see.  xubuntu-restriced-extras and libdvdread4 would appear to be what's required
[20:09] <knome> unheeding, i encourage to stop there with that subject
[20:10] <unheeding> oh i knome ;)
[20:13] <Unit193> DVD is in the repo, but comes with a script to install libdvdcss3 from medibuntu repos.
[20:14] <SkippersBoss> http://packages.medibuntu.org/precise/index.html
[20:15] <Unit193> Alright SkippersBoss, you win there, it is dvdcss2...
[20:24] <SkippersBoss> yes and what is my price ??
[20:24] <SkippersBoss> lol
[20:24] <knome> SkippersBoss, a work item on the xubuntu docs
[20:25] <SkippersBoss> ai, i should have known
[20:26] <SkippersBoss> still trying to fire up XFburn without a burner.. :-( it crashed
[20:26] <jarson> how the hell do you set the default windows manger on xfce?
[20:26] <knome> jarson, please watch the language
[20:26] <jarson> got a broken laptop after an update that no longer has a windows manager
[21:25] <hermanlf> Problem: I am running xubuntu 12.04 and when I launch "Home" folder it gives me a Launch Error of "The folder could not be opened"
[21:26] <hermanlf> This happens only on the first launch of every reboot.
[21:29] <drc> I'm betting this is related to the delayed Thunar opening after a re/new boot.  Try this:  Uninstall gvfs-backends (you can re-install it if it doesn't work or you really need it), reboot.
[21:30] <hermanlf> k, lemmee try
[21:33] <hermanlf> yup, you nailed it.  That works great. Thanks.
[21:33] <drc> good
[21:53] <Ironsight> So umm, anyone know a fix where you apply a mouse cursor theme and it doesn't work on all the apps you run?
[21:54] <Ironsight> I found a nice one on xfce-look and it doesn't display the cursor on half my apps :/
[21:59] <well_laid_lawn> Ironsight: if you are using ~/.xinitrc to start fluxbox you can see if adding   xsetroot -cursor_name left_ptr & to it will help
[21:59] <well_laid_lawn> xsetroot -cursor_name left_ptr &
[22:00] <Ironsight> o.O fluxbox?
[22:00] <Ironsight> I'm using xfce :D
[22:01] <well_laid_lawn> oops wrong channel
[22:01] <Ironsight> it's cool :)
[22:01] <Ironsight> (Fluxbox is cool though)
[22:01] <well_laid_lawn> cursors always work everywhere here, is it just the one theme that fails?
[22:02] <Ironsight> I don't know, let me try another theme
[22:02] <Ironsight> the lion one failed...
[22:02] <well_laid_lawn> bad theme then?
[22:03] <Ironsight> nope, just tried them all
[22:03] <Ironsight> the theme doesn't change on some apps
[22:03] <Ironsight> like gtk
[22:04] <well_laid_lawn> just to check, how are you changing the mouse cursor theme?
[22:04] <Ironsight> menu>settings>settings manager>mouse and touchpad>theme
[22:04] <well_laid_lawn> should be good then...
[22:05] <Ironsight> looks like it's a known issue still (I guess for the last 5 years) https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xfwm4/+bug/157447
[22:06] <Ironsight> I'll just go with the default for now :)
[22:07] <Ironsight> ahh, this might help me: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1974227


[01:39] <tlm[m]> FYI issue is that version of OpenSSL doesn’t support ecdsa keys, the encoding is fine.
[04:27] <thumper> wallyworld: does the caas controller use the machine agent engine?
[04:27] <thumper> I think it does, just want clarification
[04:27] <tlm[m]> I think so
[04:31] <thumper> thanks...
[04:31] <thumper> I realised that my approach isn't working, so I need to back up and try again
[04:31]  * thumper is looking to add dependency engine metrics for worker restart counts
[04:36] <wallyworld> thumper: yeah, it does with a few tweaks
[04:36] <wallyworld> there's a separate caas model set of workers
[04:36] <wallyworld> and separate caas application agent (vs unit agent)
[04:37]  * thumper nods
[04:37] <thumper> ta
[04:37] <thumper> I still need to backup though
[04:37] <thumper> yay metrics
[04:59] <wallyworld> thumper: i don't get why we need remote-application since it can be inferred from the unit name
[04:59] <wallyworld> maybe babbageclunk knows?
[04:59] <thumper> yeah...
[05:00] <thumper> it is there for application relation changes
[05:00] <thumper> I don't think it should be needed for non-application relation changes
[05:00] <thumper> but the validation is there now
[05:00] <thumper> something to be cleaned up maybe?
[05:00] <thumper> but we need to provide people with the way to unblock
[05:00] <wallyworld> upgrading should not even result in any app relation changes, right? since the charms don't have that yet
[05:01] <thumper> right
[05:01] <thumper> but if someone upgrades to 2.7.5, they need a way to unblock themselves
[05:01] <wallyworld> hence it seems wrong to expect that entry when it's not even used in the context of the hook
[05:02] <wallyworld> yes, workaround needed, but also agree we should fix
[05:02] <wallyworld> another 2.7.6 fix i'd say
[05:02] <wallyworld> well *the* 2.7.6 fix
[05:02] <thumper> wallyworld: yeah, I think achilleasa is going to look next week
[05:02]  * thumper EODs
[05:03] <wallyworld> ttyl
[05:13] <wallyworld> hpidcock: i think you fix bug 1849660 right?
[05:13] <mup> Bug #1849660: AWS A1 instances are not available via juju in eu-central-1 <juju:Triaged> <juju 2.8:Triaged> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1849660>
[05:14] <hpidcock> wallyworld: might need to run the AWS update scripts
[05:15] <wallyworld> i thought we had already? i thought the bug was fixed but just not marked as fix committed
[05:15] <hpidcock> hmmm
[05:16] <hpidcock> oh yeah
[05:16] <hpidcock> should be fixed'
[05:16] <wallyworld> ta, will makrk as such
[05:16] <hpidcock> wallyworld: if you feel like a PR readthrough of the charm upgrade stuff
[05:16] <hpidcock> https://github.com/juju/juju/pull/11395
[05:17] <wallyworld> ok
[05:17] <hpidcock> still working through it, needs some cleanup possibly
[05:17] <hpidcock> but it works
[05:17] <hpidcock> "works"
[05:22] <wallyworld> hpidcock: wanna rebase and resolve conflicts?
[05:38] <hpidcock> wallyworld: one momento, having lunch
[05:39] <wallyworld> all good, i've got plenty to do
[08:12] <achilleasa> wallyworld: I will work on that next week. Should be a simple upgrade step (read unit name, mangle it to an app name and write it back to the state file). I may be able to cobble together a sed script to use as a manual workaround for stuck units until the fix lands
[08:53] <achilleasa> can I get a CR on https://github.com/juju/juju/pull/11390?
[08:54] <achilleasa> whoops... ^ needs rebasing to resolve conflics
[09:20] <stickupkid> I don't get this, I don't know what it gives you? https://github.com/go-goose/goose/blob/v2/http/client.go#L111-L112
[09:20] <stickupkid> if you want to pool http clients, the there are better ways
[10:07] <stickupkid> manadart, https://github.com/go-goose/goose/pull/85
[10:10] <stickupkid> just updated the description
[10:13] <manadart> stickupkid: OK.
[10:19] <achilleasa> I have resolved the conflicts on 11390. Can I get a CR on it? (if you review it make sure you run the QA steps for both actions/hooks)
[10:29] <wallyworld> achilleasa: i don't understand why we even need that yaml attribute since the app name can always be derived from the unit name, and if it is used to signal the hook is firing as a result of an app data change ,that's fine, but it shouldn't be needed otherwise, and in this case, it definitely doesn't seem valid to error because the system is being upgraded from one where there's no app relation data
[10:29] <wallyworld> so perhaps there's a bigger problem to fix
[10:33] <achilleasa> wallyworld: my guess is that it's a sanity check introduced as part of the application databag work
[10:34] <wallyworld> still doesn't seem right ti me
[10:37] <achilleasa> wallyworld: AFAICT from the validation code, for RelationChanged it seems like you are allowed to have an empty unit but the application must always be populated. Maybe it's there to signal something on the application level?
[10:38] <wallyworld> interesting. not being familiar with the code, my thought was that one of app/unit must be optional, it seems unit is the optional one
[10:38] <achilleasa> wallyworld: though for RelationJoined/Departed both are required
[10:39] <wallyworld> that seems weird since if you know the unit, you know the app
[10:39] <wallyworld> might need to ask xtian/john
[10:42] <manadart> stickupkid: Do we need the Options defs in both http/client.go and client/client.go?
[10:43] <stickupkid> manadart, well I'm unsure if people are using http/client directly. If so, we do need to do that to ensure backwards compatibility. Otherwise we have to move to v3 of goose
[10:44] <stickupkid> manadart, if we're sure then I probably just set it in the constructor, but that means a signature change etc
[10:44] <manadart> stickupkid: So can't we use the http/client ones in client/client?
[10:44] <manadart> We already import it...
[10:45] <stickupkid> manadart, it would seem weird that client/client constructor takes http/client ones no?
[10:45] <stickupkid> manadart, what if client/client wants it's own options?
[10:46] <manadart> stickupkid: I can live with it.
[10:46] <stickupkid> manadart, i'm not a fan by the way, I just wanted to be safer
[10:47] <stickupkid> manadart, my prefered method is make a factory
[12:30] <jam> guild, has anyone felt that juju 2.8 takes *much* longer to link than 2.7 ?
[12:31] <hml> jam, not that i’ve noticed.  but add-model seems to take a longer time than i’d expect.
[12:32] <jam> time go test -check.v in cmd/juju/commands takes around 30s before it gets to the 5s test.
[12:32] <jam> which the test itself is stupid slow, but 6x slower to compile it.
[15:51] <hml> achilleasa:  resolved comments in https://github.com/juju/juju/pull/11376 and retested upgrade
[15:52] <stickupkid> jam, I'll keep my eye out, I might use my old computer as my new one is stupid fast
[15:59] <jam> stickupkid, so I also got a new machine this year, dropped my compile times by something like 6x (yay massive cores).
[15:59] <jam> git co 2.7; dep ensure -v -vendor-only; time go install github.com/juju/juju/... 1m1s
[15:59] <jam> back to 2.8, its 57s, so maybe I'm just crazy
[16:08] <jam> stickupkid, so I'm not entirely crazy 'time go install' was the same, but
[16:08] <jam> cd cmd/juju/commands; time go test -check.v -check.f dontrunanytests
[16:09] <jam> is 36s vs 51s
[16:09] <stickupkid> git co 2.7 and install took 30s for me.
[16:09] <jam> anyway, 30s to spin up a test suite takes it way outside the 'productive loop' for me.
[16:10] <stickupkid> 2.8 took 21s
[16:10] <jam> very nice
[16:10] <stickupkid> i'll see what the cmd/juju/commands one is
[16:11] <stickupkid> 9s for 2.8
[16:12] <stickupkid> roughly the same for 2.7
[16:14] <jam> stickupkid, what go version are you running?
[16:15] <stickupkid> 1.13.7
[16:15] <stickupkid> I should move it back to 1.12
[16:15] <jam> I'm on 1.13.9 (whatever from snaps),
[16:15] <stickupkid> not on a snap
[16:16] <stickupkid> it doesn't play well with my editor
[16:19] <jam> stickupkid, have you ever seen 'dep check' say that Gopkg.lock doesn't match?
[16:20] <jam> stickupkid, I hit a weird bug where static_analysis failed on my machine, but if I push the PR updating Gopkg.lock it says it doesn't match on the bot
[16:20] <jam> stickupkid, but I don't know how to clear out whatever cache dep is using that has a bad version in it.
[16:20] <stickupkid> jam, yeah, but not for a long time, me achilleasa ran into it. Note: you can't remake the Gopkg.lock from scratch, you need a seeded version
[16:21] <stickupkid> jam, nuke your vendor folder?
[16:21] <jam> stickupkid, yeah, I'm aware you can't reset Gopkg.lock when I was figuring out dep ensure in the beginning.
[16:21] <jam> I deleted the dir from vendor, but not the whole dir, maybe I'll try that
[16:22] <jam> stickupkid, I noticed static analysis complaining about a bunch of stuff I didn't touch. Was the test added recently?
[16:23] <stickupkid> jam, nope, got a link
[16:24] <jam> stickupkid, https://jenkins.juju.canonical.com/job/github-static-analysis-go-juju/2149/console
[16:26] <stickupkid> jam, it doesn't like this file for some reason https://github.com/juju/juju/pull/11389/files#diff-6e09331bad8b6f463aba28902512a50d
[16:33] <stickupkid> jam, I suspect the github one is using a different version than local, i.e. it's probably because it's 1.12 v 1.13
[16:57] <jam> stickupkid, so client_test I fixed, it was that I had an import in the wrong section
[16:57] <jam> but it was complaining about more than that.
[16:57] <stickupkid> yeah, I need to clean up the grep output, it's because generated files really message that output up
[16:57] <jam> stickupkid, https://pastebin.canonical.com/p/Sb8MzPvn4D/
[16:57] <jam> I can fix client_test.go which I did touch, it was the leadership upgradeseries, mock_statetracker etc
[16:58] <jam> that I didn't touch
[16:58] <jam> that made me confused
[16:58] <stickupkid> jam, yeah, ignore them
[16:58] <jam> stickupkid, also, it doesn't say *what* the issue is, just "there was an issue"
[16:58] <jam> I had to figure out (a) it was go-import and (b) that it was a problem with client_test.go
[16:59] <stickupkid> jam, agreed
[16:59] <jam> stickupkid, also it mentions output.tar.gz but I couldn't find that as part of Jenkins anywhere
[17:01] <stickupkid> jam, I'm thinking that the output would be better served in s3, jenkins just isn't reliable for us around this
[17:01] <bdx> hello
[17:01] <bdx> I wanted to bring up https://bugs.launchpad.net/juju/+bug/1849916
[17:01] <mup> Bug #1849916: [jaas] add-model doesn't respect region <juju:Incomplete> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1849916>
[17:02] <bdx> this bug is still impacting myself and others, the same way that it was on 2019-10-26
[17:02] <bdx> it's pretty critical for us, because it blocks us from using/creating models on jaas
[17:03] <bdx> I'll be around to help give some info and/or diagnoses on this if need be
[17:04] <bdx> if someone who knows these waters might be kind enough to lend hand at looking into this further it would be greatly appreciated
[17:04] <bdx> thanks!
[17:33] <achilleasa> hml: there is an error in one of the upgrade tests in 11376
[17:34] <hml> achilleasa:  i’ll take a look
[17:35] <achilleasa> other than that I think it's ready to land. Do you want me to approve it now before my EOD so you can land it once the errors are fixed?
[17:36] <hml> achilleasa:  yes please…  if there’s a big change to fix the test, i’ll have someone review that piece from NZ/AU
[17:49] <hatch> bdx I'll send this around to some folks to see if they have any ideas as it's outside of my wheelhouse
[17:53] <hml> achilleasa:  it was an easy fix, had to update the args for a call in the test which changed signature.
[17:53] <hml> achilleasa:  verifying in github jobs, then squash and merge
[17:53] <hml> ty
[17:56] <bdx> hatch: thanks!
[21:02] <wallyworld> thumper[m]: https://github.com/juju/juju/pull/11396
[23:01] <wallyworld> thumper: you gonna look at my pr? it will make you happy
[23:01] <babbageclunk> can someone take a look at my juju-restore pr to fix HA node counting? https://github.com/juju/juju-restore/pull/13
[23:01] <thumper> ok
[23:01] <thumper> wallyworld: which PR?
[23:01] <wallyworld> thumper: it's posted above
[23:01] <wallyworld> https://github.com/juju/juju/pull/11396
[23:02] <thumper> wallyworld: I was probably not here
[23:02] <wallyworld> asked via github to :-)
[23:02] <wallyworld> *too
[23:03] <thumper> wallyworld: yep, will get to it after my call with timClicks
[23:09] <thumper> wallyworld: 71 files? what have I gotten myself into?
[23:10] <wallyworld> thumper: it's mechanical :-) and you will lovethe result
[23:10] <thumper> I'm reviewing now
[23:24] <thumper> wallyworld: approved with one change requested
[23:24] <wallyworld> ty will look after meeting
[23:29] <thumper> babbageclunk: approved with one change requested too
[23:29]  * thumper goes to get lunch now
[23:39] <babbageclunk> thumper: awesome thanks!


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[16:09] <scotty^> Can someone please check if bug 902033 is fixed in Vivid?
[17:06] <scotty^> Can someone please check if bug 902033 is fixed in Vivid?
[17:17] <scotty^> G'day philip.  Are you running Vivid?
[17:19] <scotty^> hmm - I think we are lagged
[17:20] <scotty^> Yup 92.47 ping reply
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