[05:47] <paulproteus> netmonk: Ubuntu provides newer versions of Firefox for Hoary; I suggest you use them.
[05:47] <elcu> and Edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf and change "ati" to "fglrx"
[05:47] <elcu> reference: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/BinaryDriverHowto
[05:47] <snugglebunny> jedipottsy306, if you have an ATI card I can't help. I use Nvidia and I can only hold one card in my mind at a time.
[05:47] <hussam> linitrofe: there's drip. I'll try that
[05:47] <linitrofe> hussam: i'm installing it
[05:47] <cusco> hi... I installed apache web server... now what is it that I need to install to execute php files
[05:48] <cusco> please?
[05:48] <jedipottsy306> it comes back with "fglrx"
[05:48] <elcu> jedipottsy306: did you do that step before?
[05:48] <elcu> iirc, it loads the kernel module for fglrx
[05:48] <andi_> does anyone know how i can bring nautilus to always start with --browser option?
[05:48] <jedipottsy306> i just followed the guide on ubuntu forums
[05:48] <netmonk> paulproteus, i just tried this new version on my toshiba and it's visbly faster in many ways
[05:48] <elcu> jedipottsy306: Edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf and change "ati" to "fglrx if you haven't yet
[05:48] <jedipottsy306> yeah i did that
[05:49] <jedipottsy306> and added 2 more lines underneath
[05:49] <paulproteus> netmonk: Which new version of what?  Of Ubuntu?  Or of Firefox?
[05:49] <paulproteus> cusco: Apache or Apache2?
[05:49] <elcu> jedipottsy306: OK, try rebooting now you've loaded the fglrx module.
[05:49] <jedipottsy306> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=32495
[05:49] <jedipottsy306> ctrl+alt+backspace do?
[05:49] <dash> heh, why does the topic say please don't use breezy yet? =)
[05:50] <paulproteus> cusco: Hint: Search for php4 using Synaptic and get everything related to your version of Apache.
[05:50] <elcu> jedipottsy306: not sure.
[05:50] <netmonk> paulproteus, firefox-1.0+
[05:50] <jedipottsy306> ill do crtl+alt+backspace
[05:51] <ompaul> paulproteus, so is that the BMW or harley davidson answer?
[05:51] <paulproteus> ompaul: Huh?
[05:51] <netmonk> paulproteus, http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/nightly/latest-trunk/
[05:51] <cusco> paulproteus: I installed apache and then apache2
[05:51] <dash> anyhow. does anyone know where i'd put stuff to get hald or gnome-volume-manager to run a program when I insert a particular USB key?
[05:51] <rhys-hynaws> hey does anyone use BMP and Audioscrobbler?
[05:51] <ThomasWinwood> I'm using the StarterBar desklet, and notice when I load Firefox it for some reason loads the homepage of the University of Minnesota. I don't have that set as my homepage, and there's nothing in the launcher to indicate loading that page. Why is it loading it?
[05:52] <paulproteus> netmonk: Cool.
[05:52] <ompaul> paulproteus, the proteus is not from Zen and the art of Motor Cycle matainence?
[05:52] <cusco> paulproteus: then I installed: libapache2-mod-php4
[05:52] <dash> heh
[05:52] <paulproteus> ompaul: No, it's from Kurt Vonnegut's _Player Piano_.
[05:52] <ompaul> ahh
[05:53] <paulproteus> cusco: Okay, great.  Make sure you remove Apache; don't try keeping both Apache and Apache2 installed, it'll just get weird fast.
[05:53] <cusco> oh
[05:53] <djm62> dash: is it an option to have the program on the USB key and select auto-run on System->Preferences->Removable Media ?
[05:53] <elcu> ThomasWinwood: what's the command in the launcher?
[05:53] <ThomasWinwood> elcu: firefox %u
[05:53] <gazzie> does anyone here use VLC for DVD playback?
[05:54] <djm62> dash: this program could be a small script to run a large program, for instance
[05:54] <dash> djm62: yeah, maybe, but I only want it to happen for one particular USB key, not just any random one that gets stuck in :)
[05:54] <elcu> try removing the %u maybe?
[05:54] <dash> djm62: so I want to have a program that will examine the contents or serial number or whatever and do some stuff
[05:54] <ThomasWinwood> That worked, but the same command on the panel loads regular Firefox.
[05:54] <ThomasWinwood> Weird.
[05:55] <djm62> dash: tricksier...are you worried about random USB keys being inserted?
[05:55] <dash> djm62: I imagine there's a way to hook into those kinds of notification, i just don't know where :)
[05:55] <dash> djm62: somewhat
[05:55] <ivoks> it has
[05:56] <djm62> I never cease to be amazed at the demands people put on software... :-/
[05:56] <jedipottsy306> ok i get 380fps now
[05:56] <dash> djm62: why? software exists to do what we want
[05:56] <elcu> jedipottsy306: does glxinfo say you have dr enabled?
[05:56] <dash> djm62: when it doesn't do what we want, we write more :)
[05:57] <djm62> dash: no criticism intended...I just keep getting things that I'd never think of
[05:57] <brdweb> dash: heh
[05:57] <jedipottsy306> direct rendering: No
[05:57] <jedipottsy306> :@
[05:57] <elcu> jedipottsy306: reboot
[05:57] <dash> djm62: well, here's why i want to do that
[05:57] <jedipottsy306> yeah i rebooted
[05:57] <jedipottsy306> i didnt crtl+alt+backspace
[05:57] <cusco> paulproteus: I removed apache2 running apache only. I removed libapache2-mod-php4 and installed libapache-mod-php4
[05:57] <dash> djm62: I want to put my GPG private key and ssh keys on USB flash drive
[05:57] <elcu> jedipottsy306: join #flood and i'll take a look at your xorg file
[05:58] <cusco> I restarted apache
[05:58] <djm62> very sensible
[05:58] <Mestapheles> does anyone know how to run fsck?
[05:58] <cusco> now.. whats missing?
[05:58] <dash> djm62: well. on an encrypted loopback fs on a USB flash drive :)
[05:58] <djm62> and you want to ssh-agent and similar when you insert it
[05:58] <bzbb> when I try to use wine, I get /usr/lib/wine/wine.bin: error while loading shared libraries: libwine.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[05:58] <dash> djm62: yeah, and mounting the loopback fs, etc
[06:00] <bzbb> anyone have any ideas?
[06:00] <djm62> first iteration, put the script on the key and auto-run? (don't you need root privs to mount loopback?)
[06:01] <{DT}> okay, when I run aplay it doesn't seem to do anything either
[06:02] <dash> djm62: meh
[06:02] <dash> djm62: i'd just as soon do it by hand as do that
[06:02] <jedipottsy306> should i remove the flgrx drivers?
[06:02] <dash> djm62: anyway it looks like i can put something in /etc/hotplug.d/
[06:03] <elcu> jedipottsy306: what does fglrxinfo output/
[06:03] <Gabriel> I get segfault when trying to run xsane with hoary PPC
[06:03] <jedipottsy306> display: :0.0  screen: 0
[06:03] <jedipottsy306> OpenGL vendor string: Mesa project: www.mesa3d.org
[06:03] <jedipottsy306> OpenGL renderer string: Mesa GLX Indirect
[06:03] <jedipottsy306> OpenGL version string: 1.2 (1.5 Mesa 6.2.1)
[06:04] <elcu> ah-hah.  you're still using the default mesa ones.  i don't think you installed the drivers properly or something.
[06:04] <Kazuhiro> any know how to make skippy run when the pc is booted? I add it some where in init.d dont i?
[06:04] <djm62> dash: http://lists.samba.org/archive/linux/2002-December/005679.html
[06:04] <elcu> jedipottsy306: yes, uninstall the one. personally, i'd follow this: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/BinaryDriverHowto
[06:05] <elcu> *uninstall the old one
[06:05] <jedipottsy306> ok
[06:05] <elcu> jedipottsy306: back up xorg.conf for future reference.
[06:05] <elcu> jedipottsy306: at least you've got a working system.
[06:05] <dash> djm62: Hmm, pam_ssh. Interesting.
[06:05] <flodine> why do backports seem to have newer packages and they tell you not to use backports
[06:06] <jedipottsy306> also does ne1 know how i can copy files from my other computer? (its windows) - when i go to shared documents and copy - says i dont have acces - but i can view them
[06:06] <Desolate> hello
[06:06] <dash> flodine: because if you use backports, you won't be able to easily upgrade to the next release
[06:06] <elcu> jedipottsy306: windows (ntfs) is read-only.
[06:06] <Desolate> I'm having some problems configuring my new ubuntu system for wireless networking
[06:06] <elcu> jedipottsy306: are you trying to copy from windows, or to windows?
[06:06] <dash> they're basically for people who have no plans to change versions
[06:06] <jedipottsy306> o
[06:06] <gazzie> how can i change it so when i double click an mp3 file it will open it in XMMS instead of totem?
[06:06] <jedipottsy306> from windows to ubuntu
[06:06] <djm62> gazzie: properties
[06:07] <elcu> jedipottsy306: and you have it mounted properly?
[06:07] <gazzie> of?
[06:07] <djm62> gazzie: right-click to change the properties
[06:07] <gazzie> :)
[06:07] <jedipottsy306> yeah
[06:07] <gazzie> any mp3?
[06:07] <dabaSlon> yes on any
[06:07] <gazzie> thanks
[06:07] <dabaSlon> yup
[06:08] <jedipottsy306> the files r on my laptop (acer)
[06:08] <gazzie> when i try to do the same for VLC with movie files it won't add vlc to the app database
[06:08] <gazzie> :|
[06:08] <dabaSlon> which is windows?
[06:09] <larsrohdin> is it possible to change the fileformat of a disk from ext3 to fat32 without loosing the data on the disc?
[06:09] <dabaSlon> so, in open with, theere is no VLC?
[06:09] <elcu> jedipottsy306: ah, sorry, i didn't read your post, thought you were talking about a dual boot system
[06:09] <gazzie> yeah dabaslon
[06:09] <dabaSlon> Desolate: start with this: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards /
[06:09] <gazzie> that's right
[06:09] <gazzie> i also have no VLC Icon
[06:09] <gazzie> i think something went funny with it
[06:09] <gazzie> :P
[06:09] <dabaSlon> well, then go open with, and choose VLC...
[06:10] <dabaSlon> open with other application
[06:10] <dabaSlon> that will add the VLC to the list ofr files used with opening that type of file, and once you do that, it will add itself to the open with list.
[06:10] <jedipottsy306> brb rebooting
[06:11] <gazzie> dabaslon when i do that
[06:11] <gazzie> and choose VLC
[06:11] <gazzie> it says "COuld not add application to the application database"
[06:11] <dabaSlon> hah
[06:11] <dabaSlon> tahts weird
[06:11] <larsrohdin> is it possible to change the fileformat of a disk from ext3 to fat32 without loosing the data on the disc?
[06:11] <dabaSlon> never seen that,,,
[06:11] <gazzie> i'm going to reinstall it from synaptic
[06:11] <gazzie> maybe that will fix
[06:11] <Desolate> thanks dabaSlon, I'll take a look
[06:11] <gazzie> let's hope so anyway
[06:11] <gazzie> :P
[06:12] <snugglebunny> larsrohdin, not that I know of. And not that I can think of.
[06:12] <resiak> larsrohdin: No, but why would you want to? :)
[06:12] <resiak> larsrohdin: Well, there is, actually. Backup, mkfs.vfat, restore. But I don't think that was what you were after.
[06:12] <dabaSlon> gazzie: not really, but you can try.
[06:12] <jedipottsy306> HOLY CRAP!!!
[06:12] <dabaSlon> hah
[06:13] <Nalioth> larsrohdin, the next best thing would be to copy the entire contents of your ext3 device onto a fat32 formatted device
[06:13] <jedipottsy306> i did glxinfo - and direct rendering IS working :D
[06:13] <jedipottsy306> and then i did glxgears
[06:13] <jedipottsy306> 36885 frames in 5.0 seconds = 7377.000 FPS
[06:13] <jedipottsy306> 40678 frames in 5.0 seconds = 8135.600 FPS
[06:13] <elcu> jedipottsy306: :) what did you change?
[06:13] <snugglebunny> jedipottsy306, nice card. With my oh so cool MX440 I get a massive 800fps
[06:13] <dabaSlon> hehe
[06:13] <jedipottsy306> i just removed the old drivers via synaptic
[06:14] <jedipottsy306> and followed that guide, and ctrl+atl+backspace
[06:14] <snugglebunny> then again frozen bubble doesn't really require much in the way of gfx
[06:14] <elcu> jedipottsy306: goodo
[06:14] <jedipottsy306> i got a  9800pro
[06:14] <jedipottsy306> but i nvr got 8000 frames b4
[06:14] <Nalioth> snugglebunny, don't feel bad. my iBook with rage pro gets 50fps
[06:14] <djm62> I forgot frozen-bubble
[06:15] <jedipottsy306> i used to have 16mb tnt2 riva 63 card :o - and the manufactureres didnt have a name
[06:15] <elcu> jedipottsy306: hehe, doesn't work exactly like the 60- 100 scale
[06:15] <jedipottsy306> 64*
[06:15] <dabaSlon> 1236 frames in 5.0 seconds = 247.200 FPS
[06:15] <dabaSlon> thats mine, not that I could care less at what the wheels spin...
[06:15] <jedipottsy306> then i had a s3 savage :o
[06:16] <jedipottsy306> yay i also have normal firefox icons now :d
[06:16] <snugglebunny> well as soon as emacs supports 3d acceleration you're all set
[06:16] <jedipottsy306> rather than the nasty blue ones
[06:16] <dabaSlon> 113 frames in 5.0 seconds = 22.600 FPS fullscreen
[06:16] <snugglebunny> rock on...
[06:16] <jedipottsy306> neway, how do i change my system icons? i have downloaded it, but what do i do now?
[06:18] <{DT}> okay
[06:18] <{DT}> thanks everyone
[06:18] <jedipottsy306> can u use itunes with linux?
[06:18] <dabaSlon> can you apt-get remove glxgears? ITs probably a small program anyhow...
[06:18] <dabaSlon> there is some pirate program to replace iTunes...
[06:18] <dabaSlon> there was some discussion on /....
[06:19] <gh0strida> hey guys .. how do u remove an item from the PATH in the bash shell?? i'm getting a no such file or directory message cause i deleted one of the directories i was pathing to
[06:19] <djm62> jedipottsy306: PyMusique
[06:19] <jedipottsy306> cos i wanna use my ipod
[06:19] <dabaSlon> you mean how would you add it back?
[06:19] <jfk303> jedipottsy306, gtkpod
[06:19] <dabaSlon> jedipottsy306: firsdt connect the device...
[06:19] <dabaSlon> then see what that does...go from there
[06:19] <djm62> jfk303: or rhythmbox, I think
[06:19] <dabaSlon> usually automatic detection, and opens a program for you.
[06:20] <gh0strida> like a reverse of the export command
[06:20] <jfk303> jedipottsy306, have you used your ipod with itunes yet?
[06:20] <dabaSlon> ok, so you want to remove something from y our path?
[06:20] <jedipottsy306> yeah
[06:20] <gh0strida> dabaSlon: exactly
[06:20] <dabaSlon> I know how to do it, maybe not elegant, though.
[06:20] <dabaSlon> yo, ivoks.
[06:20] <elcu> snugglebunny: my last card was an mx440
[06:20] <dabaSlon> anyhow...
[06:20] <ivoks> hi
[06:21] <elcu> i feel your pain
[06:21] <dabaSlon> gh0strida: I would, echo $PATH in a term...
[06:21] <dabaSlon> Then, I would export the path without that part I dont want.
[06:21] <jfk303> jedipottsy306, I think you ust use it with itunes before gtkpod will work
[06:21] <djm62> jfk303: if it's being added in in .profile, just remove that line, or export PATH=whatever:you:want:to:use at the end of .profile or .bashrc or whatever
[06:21] <dabaSlon> export $PATH='path'
[06:21] <jedipottsy306> will gtkpod play music like itunes?
[06:22] <jfk303> dj62, me?
[06:22] <dabaSlon> gh0strida likely...
[06:22] <zachary> hello, i could use some help with rhythmbox
[06:22] <gh0strida> dabaSlon: okay i see .. i did remove it from .profile but it is still there .. i'll try that
[06:22] <djm62> jfk303: not you sorry...why gtkpod over rhythmbox?
[06:22] <dabaSlon> well, this what I said, would have to work, it is very manual though...
[06:23] <dabaSlon> you can after add the same export command to the bash.bashrc...
[06:23] <dabaSlon> which would be equal likely...
[06:23] <jfk303> jedipottsy306, what do you mean? on your computer?  you have to link it to an external media player..
[06:23] <elcu> zachary: just go ahead and ask your question
[06:23] <dabaSlon> I still can not see why adding a directory to path would cause problems, though, unless incorrect, thus screwing the rest of the path.
[06:23] <jedipottsy306> jfk303, normally i use itunes on my windows pc to play music, and transfer files to my ipod
[06:24] <jedipottsy306> jfk303, is there a program like that for linux?
[06:24] <dabaSlon> dude, plug it in..........
[06:24] <dabaSlon> youll see everything,
[06:24] <Nalioth> jedipottsy306, gtkpod
[06:24] <jfk303> djm62, no reason, I'm interested because I havent got my ipod working with gtkpod
[06:24] <jedipottsy306> k
[06:24] <jedipottsy306> thnx
[06:24] <jedipottsy306> brb
[06:24] <LinuxJones> jedipottsy306, >> http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/IPodHowto
[06:25] <zachary> elcu: i have just started using ubuntu/linux, i like the looks of it but, i can't play mp3s, when i try and import an album i get a pop-up that says: there is no plug-in to handle an mp3 file
[06:25] <djm62> My bro has an ipod shuffle, which has worked fine with rhythmbox for playing, but gtkpod wasn't quite right on something
[06:25] <Mestapheles> can someone tell me if there is some special magic to comming our of single user mode after running fsck?
[06:25] <dabaSlon> LinuxJones: wow, nice.
[06:25] <gh0strida> dabaSlon: all set thanx
[06:25] <LinuxJones> ;)
[06:25] <jfk303> djm62, but I also havent used it with itunes yet, and I think that creates some important stuff like a database linking to all you media files on the ipod
[06:25] <djm62> telinit 3 (IIRC)
[06:25] <dabaSlon> welcome
[06:25] <djm62> jfk303: I think there's some perl magic you can do for that
[06:25] <dabaSlon> that is likely not what someone who knows Linux better would have done, but it is a way to do it.
[06:26] <dabaSlon> zachary: you will need some codecs installed.
[06:26] <dabaSlon> What should he go for?
[06:26] <dabaSlon> restricted formats>?
[06:26] <djm62> restrictedformats!
[06:26] <Quest-Master> My AbiWord is frozen.. does anyone know if I killall it right now, the document would be emergency saved or something?
[06:26] <jfk303> djm62, I'll try rhythmbox
[06:26] <zachary> okay how do i do that?
[06:26] <djm62> http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats
[06:26] <zachary> through the terminal?
[06:27] <dabaSlon> right, read through that, its not  too long.
[06:27] <jfk303> djm62, tell me more of the magic...
[06:27] <zachary> i've looked at that blasted restrictedFormats for three long hours and all i see is greek
[06:27] <dabaSlon> Quest-Master: I dont...
[06:27] <djm62> jfk303: you might need gstreamer0.8-faad installed as well
[06:27] <_4strO> ohaio
[06:28] <GNAM> how can I enable sshd logging?
[06:28] <factorx> can you propse any mp3-player except for rhythmbox, amarok or xmms?
[06:28] <djm62> zachary: you're new on linux? I feel your pain ;)
[06:28] <jfk303> djm62, think I have that already, not sure about the -faad tho
[06:28] <dabaSlon> factorx: you mean suggest?
[06:28] <elcu> zachary: you should've come here earlier then.  There goes my report.
[06:29] <dabaSlon> jsut go sudo apt-get gstreamer0.8-*
[06:29] <dabaSlon> wow, shoulda saved...
[06:30] <dabaSlon> factorx: muine is gonna be included with breezy.
[06:30] <jedipottsy306> how do i add mp3 support? install xmms?
[06:30] <elcu> zachary: alternatively, just install beep-media-player
[06:30] <desrt> jedipottsy306; install gstreamer0.8-mad
[06:30] <elcu> jedipottsy306: or beep-media-player
[06:30] <djm62> jfk303: the different suffixes represent decoding and encoding back ends for the gstreamer multimedia framework
[06:30] <factorx> isnt beep media player the same as xmms?
[06:30] <desrt> jedipottsy306; but add universe/multiverse first (if you haven't already)
[06:30] <dabaSlon> sudo apt-get install gstreamer0.8-*
[06:31] <zachary> elcu: if i install beep-media-player do i have to do all this hard stuff ?
[06:31] <elcu> factorx: IMHO, a kick-ass version of it
[06:31] <dabaSlon> Thats what I did.
[06:31] <MuStR> amarok is a really good player....
[06:31] <elcu> zachary: IIRC, bmp will install some codecs
[06:31] <MuStR> it's just supposed to be for KDE only though
[06:31] <jfk303> jedipottsy306, www.ubuntuguide.org
[06:31] <neofeed> any way I can get wma's to mp3s?
[06:31] <zachary> elcu: i spent along time trying to install mplayer and compile it and install stuff it was quite confusing.
[06:32] <factorx> amarok is really good but I don't want to install half kde for it :/
[06:32] <desrt> neofeed; you can use gstreamer-launch to do it
[06:32] <zachary> okay how do i install bmp
[06:32] <djm62> MuStR: there are very few applications which will only work on one desktop environment
[06:32] <elcu> Note : you must choose the eSound output plugin in the options in xmms or bmp
[06:32] <MuStR> heh
[06:32] <MuStR> I did because it's so good
[06:32] <MuStR> djm62: amarok works on gnome :]
[06:32] <elcu> zachary: try "sudo apt-get install beep-media-player"
[06:32] <desrt> this is infuriating
[06:32] <factorx> somebody should port foobar2000 for linux
[06:32] <desrt> y'all need to suck it up in use muine :)
[06:32] <factorx> :D
[06:32] <desrt> ya
[06:33] <kynes> someone know a bugfix about this...
[06:33] <desrt> foobar2000 is the only thing on earth that comes close to being as good as muine
[06:33] <MuStR> oh that would be sick
[06:33] <djm62> KDE libs are just a likkle extra disk space, and I don't have enough CDs to use it all with oggs
[06:33] <kynes> unregister_netdevice: waiting for eth2 to become free. usage count=1
[06:33] <kynes> and it never increments
[06:33] <kynes> and it can't be stopped
[06:33] <jfk303> djm62, The following packages have unmet dependencies: gstreamer0.8-faad: Depends: libc6 (>= 2.3.2.ds1-21) but 2.3.2.ds1-20ubuntu13 is to be installedE: Broken packages,
[06:33] <Mestapheles> does anyone know if it is necessary to avoid writing cache after fscking?
[06:34] <neofeed> desrt, gstreamer-launch? dun have that.
[06:34] <factorx> what special features do you admire of muine, desrt?
[06:34] <jfk303> how do I change the version of libc6
[06:34] <zachary> elcu: this is the output: Reading Package Lists... Done
[06:34] <zachary> Building Dependency Tree... Done
[06:34] <zachary> E: Couldn't find package beep-media-player
[06:34] <dabaSlon> zachary: it is best to install the gstreamer libs..and then also w32codecs, it is not too hard at all.
[06:35] <elcu> zachary: then you need to update your sources list: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto/
[06:35] <dabaSlon> Then, all that support will be present no matter what program you run.
[06:35] <jedipottsy306> my cd drive dont work
[06:35] <djm62> jfk303: what version are you running?
[06:35] <jedipottsy306> mount: special device /dev/hda does not exist
[06:35] <zachary> okay well how do i do all of the above said
[06:35] <dabaSlon> hah, that is your hard drive
[06:35] <dabaSlon> not your cdrom
[06:35] <desrt> neofeed; it's probably called gstreamer0.8-launch
[06:35] <jfk303> djm62, hoary
[06:36] <dabaSlon> zachary: as for MPlayer, you dont really need it, I find, but, I have instructions on how to install it.
[06:36] <djm62> jfk303: you almost certainly don't want to be changing libc6
[06:36] <dabaSlon> zachary: there is a file on your comptuer at /etc/apt/sources.list
[06:36] <jfk303> djm62, ok
[06:36] <neofeed> desrt, nup dun have it.
[06:36] <djm62> jfk303: do you have any unusual repositories or backports on there?
[06:36] <dabaSlon> zachary: This file has all the URLs from which it apt-get installs.
[06:36] <zachary> i don't want mplayer i want to use rhthymbox because i have gotten fustrauated with mplayer a little too much
[06:37] <desrt> ok.  gst-launch-0.8.  sorry :)
[06:37] <elcu> zachary: "sudo apt-get install gstreamer0.8-mad"
[06:37] <jfk303> djm62, I've added a few repositories, but nothing really unusual
[06:37] <elcu> that will give you mp3 support in ryhtmbox
[06:37] <dabaSlon> zachary: change this file, so that you can have all the URLs from which to download various programs.
[06:37] <Desolate> how can I move files to a folder that's owned by root?
[06:37] <anathema> is there a good mp3 player for linux? like a lot better than xmms ?
[06:37] <dabaSlon> elcu: why only mad,.,
[06:37] <NeonLightning> how do i go about finding out the local ip's for my lan
[06:37] <anathema> Desolate, use sudo
[06:37] <jedipottsy306> ne1 know why i cant mount cd?
[06:37] <anathema> sudo mv <file> <dest>
[06:37] <jedipottsy306> it says mount: special device /dev/hda does not exist
[06:38] <NeonLightning> anathema, try mplayer
[06:38] <elcu> zachary: if it's not found, you need to update your sources list using the link  gave you.
[06:38] <dabaSlon> jedipottsy306: told you thats your hard drive
[06:38] <elcu> dabaSlon: er, cos http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats says so.
[06:38] <dabaSlon> elcu: then next time he uses a different format, then he will be here again,
[06:38] <jedipottsy306> its not
[06:38] <jedipottsy306> i type this
[06:38] <djm62> anathema: madplay, if you like command line, BMP if you want a better xmms, rhythmbox if you want a music player, amarok if you want that with kde, mplayer if you want video to be covered as well
[06:38] <jedipottsy306> sudo mount /cdrom/
[06:38] <dabaSlon> Just install gstreamer0.8-*
[06:38] <jedipottsy306> and i get this
[06:38] <jedipottsy306> mount: special device /dev/hda does not exist
[06:38] <dabaSlon> wrong command.
[06:39] <anathema> does mplayer have a playlist capability?
[06:39] <dabaSlon> mount /dev/cdrom0 /media/cdrom
[06:39] <dabaSlon> or something
[06:39] <NeonLightning> so can someone help me find the local ips for my network
[06:39] <dabaSlon> mount source destination
[06:39] <djm62> anathema: no idea...I prefer rhythmbox
[06:39] <elcu> dabaSlon: ah, thanks for the catch
[06:39] <anathema> is rhythmbox fast when seeking with the mouse
[06:39] <NeonLightning> i know <IP_ADDRESS>-ect but i can't find the one i need
[06:39] <anathema> like clicking diff spots in a mp3
[06:39] <jedipottsy306> mount: special device /dev/cdrom0 does not exist
[06:39] <anathema> xmms is so bloody slow for that
[06:39] <desrt> neofeed; the command is as follows: (just figured it out)
[06:39] <djm62> anathema: fast enough, I find
[06:39] <jedipottsy306> i put the disc in, like normal - doesnt auto mount, if i stick in the dvd drive it mounts
[06:40] <desrt> gst-launch-0.8 filesrc location=source.wma ! spider ! lameenc ! filesink location=dest.mp3
[06:40] <necorium> hi anathema thanks for the email :)
[06:40] <anathema> hi
[06:40] <Desolate> thanks anathema
[06:40] <desrt> neofeed; generally speaking, that's a commandline that will convert anything that you can play into an mp3
[06:40] <anathema> can talk in the PM necorium
[06:40] <dabaSlon> zachary: once you change your sources.list file properly, you haev to sudo apt-get update in a terminal, so the new sources are loaded...
[06:40] <dabaSlon> then you can apt-get install anything dfrom there.
[06:40] <djm62> anathema: I just tested it on a one-hour podcast...instantaneous on my 256M P3 system
[06:41] <desrt> neofeed; you should really consider using ogg/vorbis though.  smaller files and better sound quality.
[06:41] <anathema> really eh
[06:41] <NeonLightning> dabaSlon, don't forget to mention synaptic
[06:41] <anathema> rhythmbox
[06:41] <anathema> ill apt it up
[06:41] <desrt> s/lameenc/lame/
[06:41] <jfk303> djm62, So is there anyway that I can get an ipod to work without using itunes at all?
[06:41] <dabaSlon> zachary: yeah, your System, Administration menu has a program ccalled synaptic, which is a tool for searching your sources, and installing, and removing programs..
[06:42] <zachary> dabslon
[06:42] <dabaSlon> zachary: very usefl
[06:42] <dabaSlon> zachary: whats up?
[06:42] <zachary> this is the stuff thats in the sources list: deb cdrom:[Ubuntu 5.04 _Hoary Hedgehog_ - Alpha i386 Binary-1 (20050129)] / unstable main restricted
[06:42] <djm62> jfk303: there's a perl set of stuff called gnupod...I think that can generate the database for you
[06:42] <dabaSlon> dont paste hrer pls.
[06:42] <zachary> nothing like the deb and src
[06:42] <dabaSlon> ok, make it what I send you in private
[06:42] <zachary> deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary universe multiverse
[06:42] <zachary> deb-src ftp://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary universe multiverse
[06:43] <jfk303> djm62, ok I'll have a read... if I get it done I'll let you know how it went
[06:43] <zachary> should i just put in the sources.list what i just put in here?
[06:43] <Dave9191> anyone heard of kuake ?
[06:43] <dabaSlon> you could
[06:43] <anathema> djm62, how does this work...cant even figure out how to play a song
[06:44] <djm62> jfk303: my bro uses windows, so I haven't had a proper play, just snarfed some tracks...I think the DB has been thoroughly reverse-engineered though
[06:44] <jedipottsy306> can someone help with getting this disc to mount
[06:44] <anathema> i just wanna put a song on a playlist
[06:44] <anathema> ahha
[06:44] <anathema> drag/drop doenst even work :(
[06:44] <dabaSlon> jedipottsy306: go ls /dev
[06:44] <djm62> anathema: it works by building a "library" of all your music...you might not like to work that way, I found I liked it when I got the hang of it
[06:45] <jfk303> djm62,  yeah I read something along those lines, might just find a windows box to use with itunes....
[06:45] <DaBlade> hello
[06:45] <dabaSlon> jedipottsy306: paste it to #flood, or somewhere. Even here if you want to...
[06:45] <DaBlade> I keep having an annoying make problem
[06:45] <dabaSlon> yo, DaBlade
[06:46] <DaBlade>  * configure: error: no acceptable C compiler found in $PATH
[06:46] <DaBlade>  * See `config.log' for more details.
[06:46] <DaBlade> ***** Return value 1
[06:46] <Dave9191> Random Fortune: If you want to travel around the world and be invited to speak at a lot of different places, just write a Unix operating system. 	-- Linus Torvalds
[06:46] <elcu> dabaSlon: install build-essential
[06:46] <djm62> anathema: oddly enough, realplayer10 makes a decent basic media player
[06:46] <elcu> if you haven't yet
[06:47] <djm62> DaBlade: what are you installing?
[06:47] <dabaSlon> DaBlade: do what he told me to do...
[06:47] <dabaSlon> :)
[06:47] <DaBlade> who?
[06:47] <elcu> heh. whoops
[06:47] <dabaSlon> elcu: dabaSlon: install build-essential
[06:47] <DaBlade> ok
[06:47] <dabaSlon> zachary: are you using Hoary?
[06:47] <anathema> hmmm
[06:47] <anathema> ill try it
[06:47] <anathema> not liking this rhythmbox
[06:48] <djm62> "sudo apt-get build-dep PACKAGENAME"
[06:48] <djm62> anathema: you have complete freedom of choice...you don't listen to music like I do, and nor should you have to
[06:48] <DaBlade> damn..another error:
[06:48] <DaBlade> checking for lt_dlopen in -lltdl... no
[06:48] <DaBlade>  * configure: error:
[06:48] <DaBlade>  * *** Couldn't find ltdl library.  If it is installed in a non-standard
[06:48] <DaBlade>  * *** location, please supply --with-ltdl=DIR on the configure command line,
[06:48] <DaBlade>  * *** where `DIR' is the prefix where ltdl is installed (such as /usr,
[06:48] <DaBlade>  * *** /usr/local, or /usr/pkg).  If that doesn't work, check config.log.
[06:49] <DaBlade>  *
[06:49] <DaBlade> ***** Return value 1
[06:49] <anathema> i understand djm62 and apreciate the suggestions..just trying to find something a bit more polished than xmms
[06:49] <jedipottsy306> ok i posted ls /dev in flood
[06:49] <djm62> DaBlade: no need for the extensive pasting...what package are you trying to build?
[06:49] <elcu> DaBlade: please don't paste large stuff here.
[06:49] <DaBlade> apollon right now
[06:49] <DaBlade> ok sorry
[06:49] <dabaSlon> DaBlade: you need a c compiler in your path
[06:49] <DaBlade> but that's not the problem ^^^^
[06:49] <djm62> DaBlade: it could be the solution
[06:49] <dabaSlon> thats what it had tld you the first time
[06:50] <kev0r__> bew
[06:50] <DaBlade> I have installed build-essential alrady
[06:50] <elcu> I'm betting you don't have that ltdl library installed
[06:50] <dabaSlon>  * configure: error: no acceptable C compiler found in $PATH
[06:50] <ulisse> Hello channel!
[06:50] <dabaSlon>  See `config.log' for more details.
[06:50] <kev0r__> is there a command like |grep that removes lines from an output instead of shows 'm like |grep
[06:50] <Nalioth> anathema, have you seen "beep media player"?
[06:50] <dabaSlon> yo ulisse
[06:50] <^thehatsrule^> hello ulisse!
[06:50] <djm62> DaBlade: apollon seems to be in universe or multiverse already
[06:50] <dabaSlon> did you look at the config.log?
[06:50] <DaBlade> not the latest version
[06:50] <ulisse> does anybody got to work the Composite thing on hoary?
[06:51] <djm62> DaBlade: how about "sudo apt-get build-dep apollon", which will install the stuff needed to compile apollon?
[06:51] <DaBlade> I can try
[06:51] <anathema> Nalioth, no i should look for it
[06:51] <anathema> its on apt?
[06:51] <elcu> Nalioth: bmp suffers from the same slow, skip to problem he wants to get rid of.  it's much more polished than xmms though.
[06:51] <Nalioth> anathema, i dont think its in the repos
[06:51] <djm62> DaBlade: that will almost certainly enable you to compile the current version
[06:51] <ThomasWinwood> kev0r: grep -v
[06:51] <elcu> anathema: it is
[06:52] <DaBlade> ok thanks
[06:52] <elcu> beep-media-player
[06:52] <Tatster> Hi, Newbie question here - I currently use WinXP but would like to move to Linux, I found Ubuntu and am interested. Is there a good way to run my Windows legacy apps?
[06:52] <ThomasWinwood> Tatster: WINE?
[06:52] <Nalioth> anathema, what is up with rhythmbox?
[06:52] <anathema> ahh just...dont like the interface, the size
[06:52] <Tatster> Does WIne support all apps or just some?
[06:52] <Nalioth> Tatster, for everything you want to do (beside some games) there is an equivelant linux app
[06:52] <anathema> size on the screen anyways
[06:52] <elcu> Tatster: no guarantees, mdual-booting might be a good option.
[06:52] <ThomasWinwood> Variable.
[06:52] <jeroen_> tatster, some
[06:52] <djm62> Tatster: the best way is to get one of the supported crossover office things...wine is unsupported and can be a bit hit-or-miss
[06:52] <elcu> *dual-booting
[06:52] <DaBlade> checking for lt_dlopen in -lltdl... no
[06:52] <DaBlade>  * configure: error:
[06:53] <DaBlade> the same error again
[06:53] <djm62> Tatster: nothing supports all apps, including windows ;)
[06:53] <Nalioth> Tatster, dual-booting is a good option until you learn which linux apps correspond to your legacy-bombs
[06:53] <jeroen_> Nalitoh is right
[06:53] <elcu> heh, *free* linux apps
[06:53] <Jimbob> DaBlade: "sudo apt-get install libltdl3-dev"
[06:53] <jeroen_> Nalioth is right
[06:53] <DaBlade> ok
[06:53] <elcu> Tatster: what apps are we talking about here?
[06:54] <anathema> fuc
[06:54] <anathema> beep skips instant
[06:54] <anathema> this is sweet guys
[06:54] <DaBlade> Jimbob..are you from netaddition?
[06:54] <elcu> anathema: really? not for me :(
[06:54] <Tatster> djm62, fair comment!!  At the moment at work we have some Packet capture/Analysis software, Observer & SNMPC network monitoring - I'd like to run those
[06:54] <djm62> vive la difference ;)
[06:54] <Jimbob> DaBlade: nope, never heard of it
[06:54] <anathema> YEs
[06:54] <Nalioth> anathema, beep is sweet?
[06:54] <anathema> it has jump to track like winamp
[06:54] <anathema> yeah im liking beep sofar
[06:54] <anathema> its like xmms, but programmed well :)
[06:55] <elcu> anathema: and shinier, no?
[06:55] <djm62> Tatster: that sounds like low-level stuff that wouldn't take well to emulation...
[06:55] <DaBlade> It's some webmasters forum...I've posted like one post there in 6 months lol
[06:55] <anathema> haah yes shineier
[06:55] <elcu> :)
[06:55] <anathema> can you get skins for it?
[06:55] <Nalioth> tatster, ethereal and ntop and nmap are great network inquisitors, and there are several apps to make sense of it all (data capture)
[06:55] <StarScream> why the fsck does ubuntu install exim when i do apt-get install mysql
[06:55] <anathema> or does it just use winamp skins ?
[06:55] <StarScream> mysql-server sorry
[06:55] <anathema> ethreal is an amazingly good network
[06:55] <djm62> Tatster: I'd suggest VMware or similar, but you probably need a real network interface
[06:55] <anathema> traffic analyzer
[06:55] <Jimbob> DaBlade: Yeah, I googled it just now and came up with this massively long (and quite frankly, ugly) flash evilness
[06:55] <Nalioth> anathema, yes beepmp.sourceforge.net
[06:55] <StarScream> i see no need for a freaking smtp server when i want a db server
[06:55] <DaBlade> I know
[06:55] <DaBlade> lol
[06:56] <dabaSlon> zachary: now that you have the sources added.
[06:56] <DaBlade> I was invited there through email...lol
[06:56] <djm62> Tatster: otherwise dual-boot until you learn the (excellent) linux networking tools
[06:56] <DaBlade> I found it boring, and never posted again
[06:56] <Tatster> I know ethereal is good, just trying to be cost effective - seeing as we have paid for it already!
[06:56] <sysrq> StarScream: things like crontab need a way to send mail locally
[06:56] <ubuntu> salut
[06:56] <Nalioth> Tatster, if there is no lack of programs on linux, its networking program
[06:56] <dabaSlon> zachary: save teh file, close it. open a terminal, and type in sudo apt-get update
[06:56] <anathema> ethreal is free
[06:56] <DaBlade> I don't know why I was emailed. I do run a Linux forum, but my host is the one who handles all the server stuff lol. I don't even know basic HTML
[06:56] <anathema> cant get better cost than that
[06:56] <ulisse> 2nd attempt: does anybody got to work the Composite thing on hoary?
[06:56] <Tatster> I thinks I will partition of my hard disk and try a dual boot
[06:56] <Nalioth> Tatster, you'll save money in the long run
[06:56] <dabaSlon> then see if that comes back with no errors.
[06:57] <dabaSlon> zachary: if it comes back with an error, well tweakl your sources list
[06:57] <ubuntu> y'a t'il 1 francais Merci a luio
[06:57] <elcu> Tatster: ubuntu can even resize your ntfs IIRC.
[06:57] <ubuntu> o
[06:57] <elcu> ubuntu: er, #ubuntu-fr
[06:57] <Tatster> Elcu , that sounds nice (if not a bit risky!)
[06:57] <Nalioth> Tatster, a linux box can function well beyond the lifespan of the same box running windoze
[06:57] <anathema> gparted can resize ntfs??
[06:57] <anathema> sweet
[06:58] <zachary> dabaSlon: its done
[06:58] <djm62> Tatster: yeah, it's always more cost-effective to use stuff you know how to use
[06:58] <elcu> anathema: you can do it through the ubuntu installer
[06:58] <elcu> as well
[06:58] <albacker> guys, is k3b better than xcdroast for cd-writting ?
[06:58] <dabaSlon> ok, no errors?
[06:58] <Nalioth> Tatster, two words  "no exploits"
[06:58] <anathema> resize it without messing it up ?
[06:58] <zachary> no errors
[06:58] <Nalioth> Tatster, two more "no virii"
[06:58] <ubuntu> y'a t'il 1 francais Merci a lui   Newbie
[06:58] <elcu> anathema: nothiing is guaranteed.
[06:58] <anathema> haha
[06:58] <anathema> course not :)
[06:58] <Tatster> Nalith, 1 more - a community that cares!
[06:58] <anathema> ive got a windows ntfs raid0
[06:59] <anathema> i would really like to get that space back
[06:59] <dabaSlon> great, sudo apt-get install gstreamer0.8-*
[06:59] <anathema> cant think of how i'd do that
[06:59] <Nalioth> ubuntu en le #ubuntu-fr s'il vous plait
[06:59] <Tatster> sorry Nalioth - missed the O
[06:59] <dabaSlon> once that is done, youre good to go for mp3s likely.
[06:59] <anathema> do you need to defragment before using gparted?
[06:59] <dabaSlon> And have the right sources bnext time you wanna install anything,
[06:59] <dabaSlon> zachary: ill show you how to search them, in case you dont know,
[07:00] <Nalioth> ubuntu please ask
[07:00] <elcu> anathema: IIRC, linux doesn't need defragmenting
[07:00] <Nalioth> elcu he's talking about his win partition
[07:00] <anathema> how could something not need defragmenting
[07:00] <elcu> ah.
[07:00] <Nalioth> anathema, *nix has no fragmentation
[07:00] <sysrq> since when is linux a filesystem
[07:00] <Nalioth> anathema, or it defragments as it writes
[07:00] <anathema> im using reiser
[07:01] <anathema> hmm
[07:01] <sysrq> ext(2|3) does fragment to an extent, however it's not worth defragmenting
[07:01] <dabaSlon> zachary:  let us know when you are listening to an mp3...
[07:01] <anathema> wow this beep thing is way better than xmms
[07:01] <anathema> no software volume contorl but thats not bad
[07:01] <dabaSlon> jedipottsy306: hey, did anything change?
[07:02] <elcu> anathema: no vol. control?  what's this then?  *slides volume up and down*
[07:02] <anathema> elcu, winamp has the option of controlling the volume thru a software mixer type thing
[07:02] <anathema> doesnt change system volumes
[07:02] <MetallicB> Hey peeps
[07:02] <djm62> elcu: /software/ volume control...not touching the hardware mixer
[07:02] <dabaSlon> jedipottsy306: my last post meant....when you are mounting something, you are mounting a device(usually) onto a directory.
[07:02] <djm62> anathema: check preferences...it might be an option
[07:02] <dabaSlon> so, the command has this format mount device destination
[07:02] <anathema> i did, its not, but no biggy
[07:03] <anathema> keep pcm at around 80 then make it adjust master volume
[07:03] <dabaSlon> if you sudo mkdir /media/cd
[07:03] <dabaSlon> and then mount /dev/cdrom /media/cd that may work.
[07:04] <anathema> ok one more question for today
[07:04] <dabaSlon> zachary: whats goin on? installed yet?
[07:04] <jedipottsy306> dabaSlon, no nothing has changed
[07:04] <zachary> dabaslon
[07:04] <zachary> i got it to play through xmms
[07:04] <dabaSlon> jedipottsy306: make a folder like I said, and mount /dev/cdrom onto it
[07:04] <anathema> a lot of the themes on themes.org for gtk 1 and 2....when i drag/drop them or try installing..it says invalid file format..shouldnt these work ?
[07:04] <dabaSlon> only root can mount though
[07:05] <zachary> in rhythm box it still says i'm a jerk and i need to install a plugin
[07:05] <dabaSlon> hehe
[07:05] <dabaSlon> cool
[07:05] <dabaSlon> awesome, at least it works.
[07:05] <zachary> thanks alot
[07:05] <dabaSlon> yup, youre welcome.
[07:05] <jedipottsy306> how?
[07:05] <zachary> it think its something with the esound
[07:05] <dabaSlon> did you install the gstreamer?
[07:05] <zachary> i did install
[07:05] <jedipottsy306> sudo mount /cdrom/ /new folder/ ?
[07:05] <sysrq> anathema: probably because they are in a tarball, you will have to extract them first
[07:05] <Bentley> hello all, using Ubuntu Live, is it possible to eject the CD and insert a blank to burn files?
[07:05] <dabaSlon> sudo mount /dev/cdrom /newfolder
[07:06] <anathema> usually you dont..but ill do that ok
[07:06] <jedipottsy306> where does the folder have to go?
[07:06] <Nalioth> Bentley, you will probably need to get another burner
[07:06] <cens0red> hi. I'm a muso. Does anyone know of a good package for ubuntu for writing music manuscript? Dots? Preferable one that'll interface with timidity?
[07:06] <dabaSlon> zachary: for wmv and other movie support you can sudo apt-get install w32codecs now
[07:07] <djm62> cens0red: rosegarden4 ?
[07:07] <dabaSlon> jedipottsy306: anywhere you want to mount it
[07:07] <cens0red> f~djm62 ta!
[07:07] <jedipottsy306> ok i did mkdir cd
[07:07] <dabaSlon> you can mount it to your home folder if you want to
[07:07] <jedipottsy306> and then sudo mount /dev/cdrom /cd
[07:07] <jedipottsy306> but it says mount: mount point /cd does not exist
[07:07] <dabaSlon> did you mkdir /cd, or mkdir cd?
[07:08] <anathema> for example im trying to install xliquidgtk
[07:08] <anathema> just for fun
[07:08] <anathema> and i cant get it to install
[07:08] <jedipottsy306> no medium found
[07:08] <anathema> extracted it..
[07:08] <anathema> left it in the tarbal
[07:08] <anathema> nothign works
[07:08] <Frafra> hi all
[07:08] <Frafra> i must use xsl file in ubuntu
[07:08] <sysrq> anathema: maybe it's a theme engine and not just a theme?
[07:08] <dabaSlon> anathema: the gnome site has instructions for installing the themese and such
[07:09] <Frafra> but firefox doesn't read it
[07:09] <Frafra> what i must do?
[07:09] <dabaSlon> .xsl?
[07:09] <anathema> theme engine?
[07:09] <anathema> its just a thing full of pngs
[07:09] <dabaSlon> tahts a spreadsheet in open office, wasnt it?
[07:09] <anathema> in a few diff directories
[07:09] <sysrq> Frafra: why would firefox read a xsl file? xsl files are just templates for xml documents
[07:09] <Frafra> yes, xsl
[07:09] <jedipottsy306> ok can i install kde if i cant get it off the disc?
[07:09] <dabaSlon> open it with open office
[07:09] <djm62> Frafra: how about emacs?
[07:09] <dabaSlon> yes, jedipottsy306
[07:09] <MetallicB> I am new to ubuntu (But not at linux experiance), How do i install ATI drivers trough AGP-GET?
[07:09] <Nalioth> jedipottsy306, install "kubuntu-desktop"
[07:10] <Nalioth> jedipottsy306, via apt-get
[07:10] <djm62> dabaSlon: not xls...xsl
[07:10] <dabaSlon> ok.
[07:10] <sysrq> anathema: no gtkrc files in the archive?
[07:10] <jedipottsy306> E: Couldn't find package kubantu-desktop
[07:10] <dabaSlon> jedipottsy306: you created cd, and tried to mount to /cd, which is different
[07:10] <DaBlade> How do I install sun Java VM through apt?
[07:10] <dabaSlon> kubuntu
[07:10] <elcu> MetallicB: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/BinaryDriverHowto
[07:10] <anathema> yes there is sysrq
[07:10] <anathema> in the same dir as all the pngs
[07:10] <Nalioth> jedipottsy306, are your sources updated?
[07:10] <josip> which dpkg's switch was repairing damaged packages ?
[07:10] <jedipottsy306> dabaSlon, i did, but then it said no medium
[07:11] <Nalioth> jedipottsy306, nm check your spelling
[07:11] <dabaSlon> : E: Couldn't find package kubantu-desktop should be kubuntu
[07:11] <rebeca> what is the equivalent of build-essential in warty? i've enabled universe but it doesnt seem to work :(
[07:11] <sysrq> anathema: just extract it in ~/.themes/ and include the gtkrc it in your ~/.gtkrc(-2.0)
[07:11] <sig> -f, --fix-broken,
[07:11] <jedipottsy306> Media change: please insert the disc labeled
[07:11] <jedipottsy306>  'Ubuntu 5.04 _Hoary Hedgehog_ - Release i386 (20050407)'
[07:11] <jedipottsy306> in the drive '/cdrom/' and press enter
[07:11] <Nalioth> rebeca, it is the same pkg
[07:11] <DaBlade> Hello? Anyone?
[07:11] <Desolate> anyone have any idea why I keep getting "bcmwl5(a) invalid driver!" every time I try to install bcmwl5 or bcmwl5a?
[07:11] <anathema> sysrq, ok do i extract the .png's directly or put them in a directory?
[07:11] <dabaSlon> DaBlade: um...there are several ways...
[07:12] <anathema> ie ~/.themes/xliquid
[07:12] <rebeca> Nalioth, but it didnt work :P, gonna try again
[07:12] <Frafra> i've created a xml file, that use a xsl file, but firefox doesn't read it
[07:12] <dabaSlon> You can not easily just enter a command to install
[07:12] <sysrq> anathema: just extract the archive, keep the directory structure
[07:12] <Nalioth> rebeca, thats all i know
[07:12] <fsapo> to install kde in ubuntu i just have to install that kde-desktop package?
[07:12] <sysrq> Frafra: did you specify the xsl template in the XML?
[07:12] <dabaSlon> DaBlade: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats shows the official way
[07:12] <DaBlade> dabaSlon I tried installing it the regular way (downloaded their package and installed it) but it didn't work
[07:12] <djm62> DaBlade: have you googled the wiki?
[07:12] <anathema> one of the directories is a .
[07:12] <anathema> doh
[07:12] <DaBlade> no, not the regular way
[07:12] <Frafra> <?xml-stylesheet type="text/xsl" href="stile.xsl"?>
[07:12] <rebeca> Nalioth, thanks
[07:12] <DaBlade> I tried it, and it didn't work
[07:12] <Nalioth> fsapo, the metapackage is called "kubuntu-desktop"
[07:12] <anathema> sysrq, can i PM you? too much talking heheh
[07:12] <dabaSlon> you nmade a misttake somewhere, DaBlade
[07:12] <DaBlade> there's gotta be a deb for it..no?
[07:12] <elcu> rebeca: try updating your sources.  http://ubuntuguide.org/4.10/index.html#extrarepositories
[07:13] <fsapo> Nalioth, ok thans.. just installing it will be fine?
[07:13] <dabaSlon> there may well be...
[07:13] <Nalioth> fsapo, install using your favorite apt tool
[07:13] <dabaSlon> you tried the restricted formats wiki page, DaBlade?
[07:13] <sysrq> Frafra: perhaps there is something wrong with it, also this really doesn't belong here as it isn't specific to ubunut. However try running xsltproc on it instead see what errors that gives you
[07:13] <DaBlade> but how do I find out? and what's it called?
[07:13] <fsapo> Nalioth, ok, thanks
[07:13] <sysrq> anathema: yes
[07:13] <josip> sig, that does not work
[07:14] <sig> josip: then your doing it wrong....
[07:14] <josip> dpg -f
[07:14] <josip> :)
[07:14] <josip> dpkg
[07:14] <MetallicB> Thanx elcu
[07:14] <dabaSlon> DaBlade: you said you tried the wiki page?
[07:14] <dv8> small gnome question: how can i remove couple of "open with .. " entries from nautilus? I opened a mp3 file with the same app 3 times and now i have 3 "Open with Music Player" entries in my nautilus file browser.
[07:14] <elcu> MetallicB: np
[07:14] <cusco> I still didn't suceed to instal php
[07:14] <DaBlade> dabaSlon reading now
[07:14] <djm62> DaBlade: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/Java
[07:14] <Frafra> sysrq: xsltproc exist
[07:14] <dabaSlon> ok, good.
[07:14] <elcu> dv8: right-click -> properties
[07:15] <MetallicB> elcu, root@localhost:/home/metallicb # cat /proc/pci
[07:15] <MetallicB> cat: /proc/pci: No such file or directory
[07:15] <elcu> open with tab
[07:15] <sysrq> Frafra: ok? so run it on the xsl and xml file
[07:15] <elcu> MetallicB: ?
[07:15] <dv8> elcu: duh! thanks man
[07:15] <MetallicB> Thats what i get
[07:15] <dv8> :)
[07:15] <elcu> MetallicB: when you do what?
[07:15] <MetallicB> In terminal
[07:16] <MetallicB> from the ATI drivers tutorial to instal on ubuntu
[07:16] <Frafra> thanks
[07:16] <hac> Why when I go on www.java.com/en/download/help/testvm.jsp Firefox freeze?I have the last Java virtual machine
[07:16] <paulproteus> cusco: Did you restart Apache2?
[07:16] <MetallicB> apt-get install fglrx-driver fglrx-kernel-src <= Shuld work but he cant find fglrx-kernel-src one
[07:16] <paulproteus> I ask because you said you restarted "Apache".
[07:17] <Quest-Master> I'm trying to print something, and whenever I hit print on Abiword, it crashes
[07:17] <Quest-Master> I ran it from a terminal
[07:17] <Quest-Master> And this is the error
[07:17] <Quest-Master> libpng error: incorrect data check
[07:17] <FunnyLookinHat> hac: http://java.com/en/download/manual.jsp   -- Grab last download link for linx
[07:17] <elcu> MetallicB: what is your card? and hoary or warty?
[07:18] <dabaSlon> my sound jsut went again
[07:18] <MetallicB> ATI 9600
[07:18] <DaBlade> ok thanks, downloading it through Synaptic now
[07:18] <cusco> paulproteus: I removed apache2 Im using apache and libapache-mod-php4 and I restarted apache.. yes... :(
[07:18] <dabaSlon> ZI just closed a video (xine) window, and my sound went with it.
[07:18] <cusco> http://cusco.biz.tm
[07:18] <elcu> MetallicB: warty or hoary?
[07:18] <DaBlade> (I wish there was a KDE version of Synaptic lol)
[07:18] <bur[n] er> kynaptic
[07:18] <djm62> DaBlade: kynaptic
[07:18] <albacker> kde sux !
[07:18] <Nalioth> DaBlade, kynaptic
[07:18] <DaBlade> :o
[07:18] <DaBlade> I didn't know that
[07:18] <DaBlade> lol
[07:18] <djm62> DaBlade: next wish! ;)
[07:18] <DaBlade> is it in th erepos?
[07:18] <Frafra> it says that the xsl file hasn't a valid mimetype xml
[07:19] <DaBlade> *repos
[07:19] <MetallicB> elcu, whats diffrence of warty or hoary?
[07:19] <bur[n] er> DaBlade: is it?
[07:19] <bur[n] er> ;)
[07:19] <Nalioth> DaBlade, of course
[07:19] <elcu> MetallicB: what version of ubuntu are you running? do you have two menus or three at the top?
[07:19] <DaBlade> I'm starting to like *buntu distros :D
[07:20] <MetallicB> Latest 5.0.4 i tought
[07:20] <cusco> paulproteus: what am I missing?
[07:20] <elcu> MetallicB: Follow the section labelled: "For Hoary (Ubuntu version 5.04)"
[07:20] <topyli> MetallicB: do "cat /etc/lsb-release" and stop guessing :)
[07:21] <Frafra> who can help me?
[07:21] <MetallicB> topyli, You probely gues effery thing after 2 full weeks of party and comming home with an complicated linux machine ^^
[07:21] <orhsonwindows> hey
[07:21] <MetallicB> DISTRIB_ID=Ubuntu
[07:21] <MetallicB> DISTRIB_RELEASE=5.04
[07:21] <MetallicB> DISTRIB_CODENAME=hoary
[07:21] <MetallicB> DISTRIB_DESCRIPTION="Ubuntu (The Hoary Hedgehog Release)"
[07:21] <MetallicB> Yeap
[07:22] <elcu> MetallicB: don't paste please.
[07:22] <Nalioth> elcu they are the "point and click people" just like i am a "turn the key and drive guy (i know nothing about engines)"
[07:22] <DaBlade> [shameless-self-advertisement] If anyone here likes/uses P2P, there's a forum dedicated to it on Linux. www.LinuxP2P.com (I run it) [/shameless-self-advertisement] .
[07:22] <MetallicB> ok
[07:23] <elcu> Nalioth: still, i bet you know how many litres
[07:23] <Seveas> DaBlade, stop spamming please...
[07:23] <DaBlade> lol :P
[07:23] <topyli> Nalioth: might have surprising effects when the controls on different machinery do different things :)
[07:23] <narkone> #ubuntu-es
[07:24] <orhs> irc,hackerthreads.org/6667
[07:24] <orhs> woops sry..
[07:24] <shinu> xD
[07:25] <Nalioth> elcu, this will take us to the vim vs emacs roadway
[07:25] <topyli> djm62: try "cat /proc/version" :)
[07:25] <elcu> vim
[07:25] <Nalioth> topyli, point and click are point and click
[07:25] <elcu> :-)
[07:25] <Seveas> "Smith & Wesson, the original point & click device"
[07:25] <Nalioth> elcu the argument was a moot point ( i use neither)
[07:25] <djm62> topyli: I know a few ways to check which kernel...I've been using linux since 2.2.  I was referring to the fact that I don't care what kernel, nor do I need to know.
[07:25] <jordanau> Seveas, haha
[07:26] <djm62> topyli: and that this is a positive thing :)
[07:26] <elcu> Nalioth: out of interest, what *do* you use?
[07:26] <topyli> djm62: true, as long as they run they're good
[07:26] <orhs> seveas, lol :P
[07:26] <Nalioth> elcu nano or abiword (for rtf)
[07:26] <djm62> topyli: haven't compiled or patched my own since 2.4
[07:26] <topyli> same here, no need
[07:27] <GNAM> hi, I want root user can read/write partion, other users only read.... umask=022?
[07:27] <amaro> join #kubuntu
[07:27] <djm62> topyli: someday, the same will be true of higher-level software, I rekon
[07:27] <amaro> sorry
[07:27] <amaro> I was trying /join
[07:27] <topyli> djm62: that will be the day when all gui's are more or less the same. like different windows versions
[07:28] <jnoon> anyone know how i can get sqlite3.2.1 or newer ? is there a repo with more current stuff?
[07:28] <djm62> topyli: when all meta-gui-configurators are similar, maybe? ;)
[07:28] <snugglebunny> Is there anyway to stop ubuntu asking for a password after a user logs out after using new login? Common problem with gf and I using the same pc
[07:28] <elcu> jnoon: either wait .. or compile the latest one from source/get rpm and alien it if available
[07:29] <topyli> djm62: heh yeah. i fear that day :)
[07:29] <djm62> topyli: really?
[07:29] <jnoon> elcu thanks
[07:30] <djm62> topyli: I figure, all humans are anatomically similar, so all human interfaces will be vaguely convergent
[07:30] <topyli> djm62: i'm afraid they have to have a pretty much similar technology underneath. no progress allowed
[07:31] <paulproteus> cusco: I suggest doing apt-get remove --purge apache* libapache-* apache2* libapache2*
[07:31] <paulproteus> cusco: And then following http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/PHPDevelopmentHowTo .
[07:31] <djm62> progress is a strange one
[07:31] <topyli> djm62: all humans may be similar, but they do different things. thus, they need different tools
[07:32] <topyli> or, they like different tools
[07:32] <Nalioth> topyli, but we all have the same extremitys and design
[07:32] <topyli> sure
[07:32] <djm62> topyli: I'm thinking the interface will be more-and-more designed to take advantage of neurological stuff
[07:32] <Nalioth> topyli, and all our tools, however different they seem to us, all work pretty much the same
[07:33] <djm62> topyli: and there's only so many things you can do with a computer, however we try to invent new ones
[07:33] <topyli> djm62: that won't be a gui really. it'll just be an interface
[07:34] <djm62> topyli: well, I meant more stuff like taking advantage of the way the human visual apparatus processes stuff, subtle colour cues and movements
[07:34] <orhs> hey can someone name a good program like a gaim type of program?
[07:34] <djm62> orhs: main "competitor" would be kopete
[07:34] <topyli> Nalioth: well, like djm62 says, the things that are convenient to do with a computer, are few
[07:34] <Nalioth> djm62, you are thinking not far enough out
[07:34] <Seveas> orhs, you mean an instant messaging program?
[07:34] <djm62> Nalioth: I'm thinking along the way....
[07:34] <Nalioth> djm62, we will have thought-based-interfaces soon enough
[07:35] <orhs> djm62 so ill just run apt-get on it?
[07:35] <Seveas> amsn (only msn iirc)
[07:35] <djm62> orhs: if you like, yeah
[07:35] <Nalioth> orhs is gaim not good enough?
[07:35] <Seveas> kopete is a kde program
[07:35] <orhs> nalioth, i dont seem to be able to view my nick on gaim
[07:35] <djm62> Nalioth: I'm not sure we will...it's a tricky thing, either with fMRI or direct neural interfaces (ion channels migrate in a nasty way)
[07:36] <dell500> how do you add a Canon A40 digicam to Ubuntu?
[07:37] <topyli> Nalioth: add yourself to your buddy list and you can see if you're online or not :)
[07:37] <djm62> Nalioth: if we can work out exactly how neural nets work in vivo, we'll still only be halfway
[07:37] <dezol> hello, does anyone know how to add more display options in x-windows?  I need 1280x760 and it doesn't show up as a choice.
[07:37] <dezol> 1280x1024 sorry
[07:38] <djm62> information efficient stuff like dasher could well be the immediate future, IMO
[07:38] <Fator_Dee> dell500: me canon works outof the box, just plug the usb cord in
[07:38] <ryman> I installed rar
[07:38] <Nalioth> djm62, the us military is funding experiements with paraplegics now, and have had success with non-surgical interfaces for the brain waves
[07:38] <ryman> but I can't open rar file
[07:38] <ryman> can someone please help me
[07:38] <Fator_Dee> dell500: and it's also A40
[07:38] <Nalioth> ok folks
[07:38] <topyli> djm62: dasher? is that lilke the gnome dashboard project? (and ms's, and apple's...)
[07:38] <Nalioth> tome for work
[07:39] <Nalioth> time even
[07:39] <Nalioth> y
[07:39] <AirWays> Amm, where is xorg.conf+
[07:39] <djm62> Nalioth: I've read the reports...we can do some very crude and limited stuff, the most success has been with lobsters (order of magnitude on the size)
[07:39] <AirWays> Where i can edit xorg.conf file?
[07:39] <Nalioth> all be good or (smile a lot)
[07:39] <djm62> topyli: dasher is something far odder...
[07:39] <KING^^^> hello all , I have a problem with my dcgui-qt , when i download the list from somebody i can't see anything , just simply root directory , why ?
[07:39] <elcu> AirWays: sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[07:39] <AirWays> Thanks
[07:39] <djm62> topyli: http://www.inference.phy.cam.ac.uk/dasher/
[07:39] <elcu> AirWays: for future reference: locate <filename>
[07:40] <AirWays> Okay thanks :)
[07:40] <anathema> hey are linux restricted models on the ubuntu cd?
[07:40] <djm62> elcu: eh?
[07:40] <jeroen_> nineteen eight-four the book?
[07:40] <KING^^^> noone can help me ?
[07:41] <elcu> djm62: i don't want my mind read
[07:41] <djm62> elcu: 1984 was about politics, not technology
[07:41] <djm62> elcu: your mind is read regularly ;)
[07:41] <elcu> dare i ask how so?
[07:41] <topyli> djm62: there are other UI hippies too: http://fenfire.org/ :)
[07:41] <djm62> elcu: every purchase you make with a card...insight
[07:42] <MetallicB> elcu,
[07:42] <elcu> djm62: lucky i don't have a credit card
[07:42] <MetallicB> elcu 3 words: God damn ATI
[07:42] <djm62> elcu: or anything that gets delivered to your house
[07:42] <elcu> MetallicB: what's up?
[07:42] <hans_> where can i find live radio stations to add in my music-player in ubuntu?
[07:42] <MetallicB> Dousnt work properly :s
[07:42] <MetallicB> Or hold on
[07:43] <djm62> elcu: you are a consumer, not a citizen, and you are being monitored...the absence of a credit card allows us to read your mind to an extent, too ;)
[07:43] <elcu> djm62: lucky i'm a hobo.
[07:43] <DaBlade> Are there any ubuntu debs for mkfs.vfat
[07:43] <DaBlade> ?
[07:43] <MetallicB> elcu, do you know where the drivers config is located?
[07:43] <Seveas> DaBlade, it's in a standard install
[07:44] <elcu> MetallicB: /etc/X11/xorg.conf what is the problem?
[07:44] <DaBlade> it doesn't seem to be here
[07:44] <Seveas> DaBlade, it really is :D
[07:44] <paulproteus> KING^^^: Try enabling passive mode.
[07:44] <MetallicB> I have to put Vsinc from yes to no
[07:44] <DaBlade> hans_: Install amarok. It has lots of them in the default playlist
[07:44] <elcu> MetallicB: i'd hold off editing that if you don't knwo what you're doing, or at least back it up.
[07:44] <DaBlade> ok
[07:44] <sylvan> Hey. I have a library packaged up in an .rpm, how do I install it in ubuntu
[07:44] <Seveas> DaBlade, it is in the dosfstools package
[07:44] <eob84> Hi
[07:45] <jeroen_> sylvan: alien it
[07:45] <DaBlade> ok
[07:45] <topyli> djm62: dasher really seems to be weird
[07:45] <djm62> topyli: interesting...on a different level to stuff I'm interested in
[07:45] <eob84> I can't seem to get rhythmbox working on ubuntu
[07:45] <sylvan> jeroen_ will try!
[07:45] <elcu> MetallicB: you might want to install this package: fglrx-control package
[07:45] <Seveas> DaBlade, and ubuntu-base depends on dosfstools
[07:45] <eob84> has anyone one else been able to do this?
[07:45] <djm62> topyli: it's quite...fun.  I can imagine it being _the_ killer app for eye trackers
[07:45] <MetallicB> elcu, made one :P
[07:45] <topyli> djm62: yeah, easily
[07:45] <jordanau> eob84, get xmms its better
[07:45] <eob84> well
[07:46] <eob84> I can't get that to work either
[07:46] <DaBlade> ubuntu-base...I think I deleted that when removing some annoying gnome app
[07:46] <jeroen_> get beep-media-player it's even better than xmms
[07:46] <jordanau> eob84, have you installed the gstreamer mp3 stuff?
[07:46] <DaBlade> I use KDE though, so that's no problem
[07:46] <djm62> topyli: they've missed a trick keeping the alphabet in order up to now...common letters should be central as well as larger
[07:46] <eob84> I installed a plugin to play AAC and it just doesn't show up in the XMMs plugins
[07:46] <Scorpion> hi, how do i associate .mp3 to a specific program?
[07:46] <eob84> yea I did
[07:46] <jeroen_> Scorpion: in nautilus?
[07:46] <eob84> I am in KDE
[07:46] <djm62> topyli: if you know some formal information theory, it's entertaining to apply that sort of UI to other applications
[07:47] <eob84> not sure if that is part of the problem
[07:47] <djm62> Scorpion: in gnome? right click on the MP3 and go to properties
[07:47] <topyli> djm62: create everything with dasher, then organize eveything with fenfire, and you have one cool machine :)
[07:47] <Scorpion> ok
[07:47] <eob84> I want to use rhythm box because it works well with my IPOD
[07:48] <djm62> topyli: is fenfire in a repo?
[07:48] <Scorpion> tnx, im new to linux
[07:48] <jedipottsy> lol me 2, but ull pick it up quick if u mess
[07:48] <djm62> Scorpion: all good now?
[07:48] <anathema> man, bmp kicks ass
[07:49] <anathema> seeks instant, ctrl-a works, uses winamp skins
[07:49] <anathema> soo much better than xmms
[07:49] <tanek> anyone got WoW working under cedega? i get no mouse pointer :(
[07:49] <topyli> djm62: they have code in savannah.org. i've seen a project leader dude show off a more-or-less working demo too
[07:49] <Scorpion> djm62: yep tnx
[07:49] <Leira> is there any relationship between Debian-AMD64 and Ubuntu-AMD64?
[07:49] <sysrq> tanek: that isn't ubuntu related, ask in the cedega channel
[07:49] <jedipottsy> whats bmp?
[07:49] <MetallicB> elcu,
[07:49] <jordanau> jedipottsy, beep-media-player
[07:50] <larsrohdin> how to change the file format from ext3 to fat32 on a disc?
[07:50] <elcu> MetallicB: if you want to disable vsync, see the 3rd post, add that line in the device section i think: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?s=&forumid=18&threadid=163615
[07:50] <anathema> beep music player
[07:50] <Mad_Omega> wenas
[07:50] <anathema> er
[07:50] <anathema> media player
[07:50] <sysrq> larsrohdin: I doubt there is a way to convert between the two
[07:50] <jordanau> larsrohdin, are you formatting?
[07:50] <Mad_Omega> alguien habla espaol???
[07:50] <larsrohdin> jordanau, yes
[07:50] <Scorpion> is there a good burning software for ubuntu, that can burn images, like dvddecryptor and alcohol for windows
[07:50] <djm62> topyli: the interesting stuff is...real neurons are information efficient, and chaotic.  Eventually I think we can skip higher language altogether
[07:50] <tritium> Mad_Omega, #ubuntu-es
[07:50] <jordanau> larsrohdin, delete the partition and create a new one
[07:50] <Mad_Omega> thanks
[07:50] <paulproteus> Scorpion: k3b.
[07:50] <larsrohdin> sysrq, of course there is
[07:50] <djm62> Scorpion: right-click on the image file in the file manager
[07:51] <sysrq> larsrohdin: without losing data?
[07:51] <sylvan> jeroen_ so once I've alien'd it to a .deb, how do I install it?
[07:51] <larsrohdin> jordanau, in cfdisk i can only see hda, how can i see hdb?
[07:51] <Fator_Dee> sysrq: dpkg -i packagename.deb
[07:51] <goldfish_> sylvan: dpkg -i moo.deb
[07:51] <sylvan> thanks
[07:51] <larsrohdin> sysrq, no i didn''t mean that
[07:51] <Fator_Dee> ops, wrong person :-p
[07:51] <goldfish_> good ole tab :)
[07:52] <larsrohdin> jordanau, oh i found it cfdisk /dev/hdb
[07:52] <sysrq> larsrohdin: then your not simply changing the file format, your reformating to another fs, mke2fs -j /dev/hda#
[07:52] <Scorpion> djm62: does it work good, can i burn movie etc, to dvdr or games
[07:52] <RickSGM1957> hi
[07:52] <jordanau> RickSGM1957, hi
[07:52] <MetallicB> elcu, the package is installed of the controll thingy
[07:52] <larsrohdin> whats the difference between  W95 FAT32 and  W95 FAT32 (LBA)
[07:53] <jordanau> larsrohdin, google
[07:53] <elcu> larsrohdin: LBA = large block access IIRC
[07:53] <larsrohdin> elcu, whats that good for?
[07:53] <topyli> djm62: structure is bureaucracy anyway. it helps keep stuff organized. if we want them organized. we might as well want efficiency
[07:53] <^Alone^> i wantto know about the advantage of ubuntu
[07:53] <larsrohdin> elcu, do i need it for a 200gb disc?
[07:53] <elcu> larsrohdin: not sure, i think it might support larger HDDs.
[07:53] <eob84> is there a way to change what sound daemon rhythm box uses?
[07:53] <jedipottsy> hey
[07:53] <elcu> larsrohdin: google
[07:53] <jordanau> ^Alone^, it has a tendency to "just work" any specific questions?
[07:54] <RickSGM1957> Got a question when it's open.
[07:54] <^Alone^> if someone know then plz tell me in a private window
[07:54] <tritium> RickSGM1957, you can ask at any time
[07:54] <Moo> how do I make something run when I log on?
[07:54] <jedipottsy> yay i got the cd drive working :D
[07:54] <goldfish_> Moo: Do you use gnome?
[07:54] <djm62> Scorpion: I can't afford a dvd-R drive...I expect it will work, but let me know
[07:54] <Moo> yes
[07:54] <jordanau> ^Alone^, just ask
[07:54] <RickSGM1957> ok.  I installed some applications with synaptic in new hoary distro, and they're not showing in the menu
[07:54] <goldfish_> Moo: I think it's in the Computer > Sessions menu
[07:54] <topyli> ^Alone^: sorry, i don't answer usenet articles by email either
[07:54] <goldfish_> Moo: u can choose programs to run at startup.
[07:54] <Moo> ok
[07:54] <RickSGM1957> Is there a command to refresh the menu?
[07:55] <elcu> RickSGM1957: killall gnome-panel
[07:55] <djm62> topyli: again and again I find that there is nothing /but/ structure
[07:55] <RickSGM1957> Did that.
[07:55] <Scorpion> djm62: ok
[07:55] <fsapo> RickSGM1957, killall gnome-panel
[07:55] <RickSGM1957> Yes, I done that twice
[07:55] <tritium> RickSGM1957, some packages do not have proper .desktop files, and don't show up in the menu
[07:55] <elcu> RickSGM1957: some packages might not install a menu entry
[07:55] <djm62> Scorpion: it works fine for CDs on my machine...I can't tell you any more than that
[07:55] <RickSGM1957> Is there a way to get them to?
[07:55] <anathema> hey how do i download a deb from apt without downloading none of its deps and without installing it
[07:55] <anathema> i just wasnt the .deb
[07:55] <anathema> want
[07:56] <elcu> RickSGM1957: you could make one yourself, search the ubuntu forums for menu-editor
[07:56] <djm62> anathema: really?
[07:56] <topyli> djm62: well, it's stable. we're terrified of surprises, after all
[07:56] <anathema> im helpin someone out
[07:56] <tritium> RickSGM1957, take a look at www.ubuntuguide.org.  There are some instructions that illustrate how to make a .desktop file for applications.
[07:56] <anathema> need to send him a deb
[07:56] <djm62> topyli: I meant in the universe at large
[07:56] <RickSGM1957> ok.
[07:56] <topyli> djm62: oh, i mean culture
[07:56] <^Alone^> i wantto know aboutthe advantage an d disadvanatge of ubuntu
 if u know then plz tell me
[07:56] <jordanau> anathema, it is in the man pages for apt, i dont remember exactly
[07:56] <RickSGM1957> alone, if you're new to linux, ti's easy to set up.
[07:57] <RickSGM1957> Hadn't crashed yet on me, either.
[07:57] <sysrq> ^Alone^: thats a loaded question, this channel is obvious biases
[07:57] <djm62> anathema: apt-get -d --no-depends install packagename
[07:57] <elcu> RickSGM1957: easy to setup .. not quite
[07:57] <anathema> thanks djm62
[07:57] <RickSGM1957> This is myfirst linux setup.
[07:57] <anathema> helpful bastard ;)
[07:57] <topyli> ^Alone^: it's the only piece of code that clearly loves you :)
[07:58] <ineti> hi
[07:58] <RickSGM1957> I copied and pasted the commands.  Pretty easy work.
[07:58] <djm62> ^Alone^: it does what it says it does, and most people here like what it does
[07:58] <jordanau> ineti, hi
[07:58] <RickSGM1957> I even installed the kde too
[07:59] <RickSGM1957> The question I asked was the only thing for me.
[07:59] <RickSGM1957> :)
[07:59] <djm62> ^Alone^: the real answer is "it's free, try it" ;) don't want to install, get the liveCD
[07:59] <sobersabre> ^Alone^, it is a similar question to "what distro is the best" ...
[07:59] <ineti> i've got a problem with booting my selfmade kernel....ich compiled a new <IP_ADDRESS> kernel on my ubunto 5.04 und i get always errors wirh vfs panic when trying to boot it ....my kernel doesn't use a initial ramdisk and i disabled the ramdisk in /boot/grub/menu.lst
[07:59] <DaBlade> how do I install kwrite? It's not in the KDE packages, not a single package in the repos :/
[07:59] <anathema> hey djm62 ...
[07:59] <sobersabre> ^Alone^, go for distrowatch, if you trust them
[07:59] <djm62> anathema: 'sup?
[07:59] <anathema> anathema@wheinbox:~$ apt-get -d --no-depends install avm-fritz-firmware-2.6.10-5E: Command line option --no-depends is not understood
[07:59] <elcu> RickSGM1957: good job.  :)
[08:00] <djm62> damn...I must've misremembered
[08:00] <ivoks> i have pm1.4 :(
[08:00] <RickSGM1957> I had run windows for 5 years.  I see there's more on ubuntu than there is for windows, for sure.
[08:00] <anathema> i cant find a no dependancies option in man
[08:00] <RickSGM1957> Well, I'm gone for the day.
[08:00] <LinuxJones> ineti, you compiled in  filesystems and ide support (ie. not as modules) ?
[08:00] <RickSGM1957> You all have a good day.
[08:00] <[1] punkass> hi all, i have a buddy of mine that is running hoary, and just moved away...he now says that when he enters is username and password in gdm it accepts it, pauses, then returns to gdm without error, and never logs him in
[08:01] <[1] punkass> he is able to log in via  ctrl-alt-Fx  tho
[08:01] <anathema> anyone know how to download from apt wihtout dling dependancies?
[08:01] <sobersabre> anathema, you should use -d, and then Ctl+C after it.
[08:01] <anathema> heh
[08:01] <anathema> ok
[08:01] <sobersabre> or you should write a little conf-file
[08:01] <djm62> anathema: --nodeps, I think
[08:01] <anathema> thats one way
[08:01] <anathema> haha
[08:01] <anathema> nope
[08:01] <bassMonkey> why aren't the deb packages for amule 2.0.0 released yet?
[08:01] <anathema> not nodeps
[08:01] <sobersabre> djm62, grow up :)
[08:01] <eob84> I am not getting a error in rhythm box "could not pause playback"
[08:02] <djm62> sobersabre: what?
[08:02] <Moo> goldfish_, I have to use sudo to start the programs. will it ask me for a password?
[08:02] <sobersabre> djm62, there's no such flag for apt-get.
[08:02] <elcu> eob84: that's good then. everythings ok
[08:02] <sobersabre> maybe dselect
[08:02] <elcu> ;-)
[08:02] <sysrq> Moo: yes, that users password
[08:02] <goldfish_> Moo: emmm, jeez, i don't know :/
[08:02] <djm62> sobersabre: damn...just googling
[08:02] <eob84> what?
[08:02] <Moo> ill test it :P
[08:02] <topyli> bassMonkey: you haven't built any i guess :)
[08:03] <eob84> elcu, what do you mean?
[08:03] <djm62> not quite sure how grow up applies...but I guess this is IRC
[08:03] <elcu> eob84: you said you were not getting an error </smartass comment>
[08:03] <elcu> eob84: jsut ignore me :-)
[08:03] <tritium> bassMonkey, now that hoary is released, the only updates will be security fixes.  Look for it in breezy in October.
[08:03] <Zen> hey all.. i have a webcam and id like to use it for a video chat.. but linux doesnt seem to detect it.. well, it doesnt work in gnomemeeting anyway. Any idea of a solution?
[08:04] <elcu> eob84: anyway, what are you playnig? cd? mp3?
[08:04] <bassMonkey> tritium: well, there aren't any for debian either... =/
[08:04] <tritium> Zen, is it a webcam that is supported in linux?  Do you have a driver for it, and is it loaded?
[08:04] <eob84> elcu, mp3
[08:04] <djm62> anathema: actually...would you be better off at packages.ubuntu.com ?
[08:04] <tritium> bassMonkey, maybe in breezy, then
[08:04] <mebaran151> anyone here know a good ruby resource
[08:04] <djm62> anathema: and choosing a package to download
[08:04] <mebaran151> I cant seem to figure out why it wont initialize this class
[08:04] <bassMonkey> tritium: argh!
[08:04] <Zen> tritium: i have no idea if its supported and ill have a look for the driver and what do you mean is it loaded?
[08:05] <jedipottsy> how do i use my flash memory stick?
[08:05] <jedipottsy> i plug it in and it dont popup
[08:05] <LinuxJones> Zen, have a look here >> https://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras
[08:05] <tritium> Zen, if you know the name of the module that supports it, you can lsmod | <modulename> to see if it's loaded
[08:05] <anathema> i got it djm, ill just delete the two deps this pkg needs
[08:05] <anathema> they are very smal
[08:05] <anathema> thanks tho
[08:06] <DaBlade> Are there any debs for p7zip?
[08:07] <tritium> DaBlade, apt-cache search for it
[08:07] <topyli> DaBlade: not in ubuntu. what is p7zip?
[08:07] <anathema> no
[08:07] <necorium> excuse my ignorance but are debs like drivers?? what exactly are they - i'm always reading bout them
[08:07] <DaBlade> ok trinitum
[08:07] <ivoks_> damn
[08:07] <anathema> there is no 7zip ap in sid afaik
[08:07] <anathema> or anywhere in apt
[08:07] <DaBlade> topyli: 7-zip.prg
[08:07] <DaBlade> *org
[08:07] <elcu> eob84: did you install streamer0.8-mad?
[08:07] <anathema> 7zip is AMAZING compression for some stuff
[08:07] <anathema> like roms
[08:07] <elcu> *gstreamer0.8-mad
[08:07] <DaBlade> it's compression ratio is extreme
[08:08] <anathema> it can be
[08:08] <anathema> for normal stuff its not much better
[08:08] <anathema> but for directories with similar items in them
[08:08] <anathema> like roms
[08:08] <anathema> its WILD
[08:08] <eob84> eclu, well no
[08:08] <anathema> haha
[08:08] <anathema> like 2 gigs comprssed down to like 100megs
[08:08] <eob84> eclu, but the issue is it won't even intialise the sound daemon
[08:08] <anathema> dont use the sound daemon
[08:08] <erirlar> hi, how mutch space does ubuntu with kde use?
[08:09] <LinuxJones> necorium,  .deb files are packages that contain applications for install on Debian based systems
[08:09] <elcu> eob84: becuase you haven't installed the mp3 codec
[08:09] <anathema> follow ubuntuguides on how to set sound up properly
[08:09] <anathema> then disable ESD
[08:09] <metalsand> Eh, if my card shows up functioning in iwconfig
[08:09] <DaBlade> I haven't figured out how to manually install p7zip even after reading the readme several times
[08:09] <DaBlade> it's a complex app
[08:09] <metalsand> but doesn't ever recieve a DCHP IP, what should I do
[08:09] <anathema> haha poor metalsand
[08:09] <sobersabre> anathema, is there a way to make esd work with skype ? :) ( properly )
[08:09] <anathema> you've been in here for days
[08:09] <anathema> trying to get your thing wokring
[08:09] <metalsand> I know man
[08:09] <dark> try dhclient
[08:09] <ivoks_> metalsand start wifi-radar
[08:09] <metalsand> It's really frusterating :(
[08:09] <anathema> sobersabre, ive never figured it out :( wish those assholes would make it alsa-native
[08:10] <eob84> eclu, installed mad same issue
[08:10] <anathema> i would like to hear my UT sounds while i play while on skype
[08:10] <metalsand> dark: DChclient just does DHCPDISCOVERY
[08:10] <sobersabre> anathema, alsa is much better than esd.
[08:10] <metalsand> ivoks_: I have it
[08:10] <djm62> alsa does multiplexing and OSS emulation
[08:10] <anathema> yes
[08:10] <anathema> thats why i want it to be alsa
[08:10] <sobersabre> but, somehow, gnome chose esd.
[08:10] <ivoks_> metalsand is there any network on the list?
[08:10] <anathema> haha oops :)
[08:10] <metalsand> ivoks_: How do I set it so it uses wlan0
[08:10] <tritium> heh
[08:10] <sobersabre> instead of jack
[08:10] <metalsand> Not eth0
[08:10] <djm62> and esd isn't competing with alsa
[08:10] <ivoks_> metalsand edit /etc/wifi-radar.conf
[08:10] <anathema> skype is my biggest complaint about switching to linux
[08:10] <anathema> i cant believe they chose OSS
[08:11] <anathema> glad they ported but i mean come on, how hard would alsa have been
[08:11] <elcu> eob84: not sure then, sorry. are you determined to stick with rythmbox?
[08:11] <sobersabre> anathema, there's a thing named "esddsp" - an esd wrapper for oss
[08:11] <djm62> anathema: use OSS emulation?
[08:11] <sobersabre> as for the arts theres "artsdsp"
[08:11] <eob84> eclu, works well with ipod
[08:11] <anathema> yes
[08:11] <eob84> eclu, are good wiht xmms?
[08:11] <sobersabre> so you actually are supposed to be able to run skype via: "esddsp -m skype"
[08:11] <anathema> ive never gottan skype to work properly with esddsp
[08:12] <sobersabre> anathema, i have done that with artsdsp
[08:12] <elcu> anathema: were these comments directed at eob84? "anathema follow ubuntuguides on how to set sound up properly
[08:12] <elcu> anathema then disable ESD"
[08:12] <anathema> elcu, yes
[08:12] <elcu> eob84: there you go.
[08:12] <anathema> http://ubuntuguide.org/#configuresoundproperly
[08:12] <eob84> hmm?
[08:12] <anathema> follow that
[08:12] <anathema> it enables dmix
[08:12] <anathema> which makes a LOT of stuff work right
[08:12] <Geezer041> Hey
[08:12] <Le-Chuck> Hi all - I can't install phppgadmin on ubuntu - I always see "page not found" with apache2
[08:13] <metalsand> ivoks_:
[08:13] <ivoks_> that's great site
[08:13] <ivoks_> metalsand
[08:13] <metalsand> WWhen I try to connect with wlan0
[08:13] <Geezer041> would someone be able to help me install thunderbird in UBUTU
[08:13] <metalsand> It says could not recieve an IP
[08:13] <metalsand> lol
[08:13] <anathema> Geezer041, sure
[08:13] <Geezer041> thanks
[08:13] <ivoks_> metalsand but, ur network is listed?
[08:13] <Geezer041> i'm a linux noobie
[08:13] <metalsand> ivoks_: I added it, yes
[08:13] <anathema> sudo apt-get install mozilla-thunderbird
[08:13] <anathema> type that in a console Geezer041
[08:13] <ivoks_> metalsand added?
[08:13] <djm62> metalsand: what have you done so far to make it work?
[08:13] <metalsand> I clicked new...
[08:13] <anathema> then type killall gnome-panel
[08:13] <anathema> and its installed.
[08:13] <ivoks_> metalsand u shouldn't added it, it should appear by it self
[08:13] <metalsand> djm62: I've installed wlan-ng drivers
[08:14] <metalsand> Well, I'm connected to it right now with my internal
[08:14] <metalsand> and it didn't just show up
[08:14] <anathema> get that Geezer041 ?
[08:14] <ivoks_> metalsand run iwlist wlan0 scan
[08:14] <djm62> metalsand: so your card is detected and shows up if you type iwconfig?
[08:14] <Geezer041> yes, thank you
[08:14] <anathema> np
[08:14] <hybrid_goth> hello
[08:14] <Le-Chuck> Somebody willing to help me understand why I can't see phppgadmin? Someone using it at all here?
[08:15] <anathema> man ive been helping necorium for 2 days trying to get isdn wokring haha
[08:15] <Le-Chuck> Thanks in advance :)
[08:15] <ivoks_> djm62 oh, u are so kind :)
[08:15] <anathema> he doesnt have a net connection in linux
[08:15] <anathema> so apt isnt too usefull
[08:15] <anathema> i send him a pkg, he reboots, sees if it works
[08:15] <anathema> comes back
[08:15] <anathema> haha
[08:15] <anathema> jesus
[08:15] <elcu> anathema: i had to do that before i had a working connection.
[08:15] <metalsand> djm62: yes it does
[08:15] <djm62> ivoks_: I'm guessing you'll be right, and two slightly conflicting answers are never good
[08:15] <elcu> not pleasant
[08:15] <metalsand> wlan0     Failed to read scan data : Function not implemented
[08:15] <metalsand> wlan0     Failed to read scan data : Function not implemented
[08:16] <elcu> anathema: at least he wasn't on dialup
[08:16] <ivoks> metalsand there u go...
[08:16] <dantheman> chmod -rwxr-xr-x MYFILE       why does it act as though i've modded it to 0000?
[08:16] <anathema> hes on isdn
[08:16] <ivoks> it doesn't scan
[08:16] <anathema> it isnt much faster than dialup
[08:16] <Geezer041> Ok so i have run that command
[08:16] <metalsand> Well, I obviously know there's a problem ivoks... :P
[08:16] <anathema> which command Geezer041
[08:16] <metalsand> That's why I'm here lol
[08:16] <anathema> apt-get ?
[08:16] <Geezer041> sudo apt-get install mozilla-thunderbird
[08:16] <anathema> ok
[08:16] <anathema> good
[08:16] <anathema> now type:
[08:16] <anathema> killall gnome-panel
[08:16] <djm62> dantheman: because it was -rwx initially, rather than +rwx ?
[08:16] <anathema> then it will be in applications-internet
[08:16] <ivoks> metalsand well... i don't know now... maybe djm62 knows :)
[08:16] <metalsand> djm62: Help me out
[08:16] <dantheman> so should i change all the - to +?
[08:17] <metalsand> like anathema said, I've been in here for DAYS
[08:17] <g14> because netmail is proprietary maybe?
[08:17] <anathema> haha yes
[08:17] <anathema> days
[08:17] <anathema> poor guy
[08:17] <metalsand> It isn't funny to me :(
[08:17] <g14> wrong window
[08:17] <anathema> i hear ya
[08:17] <ivoks> i helped him around driver
[08:17] <Geezer041> Thank you
[08:17] <djm62> metalsand: rightski...do you have a good idea that your card works on linux, for other people?
[08:17] <anathema> np Geezer041, genjoy
[08:17] <anathema> enjoy
[08:17] <metalsand> ivoks spent hours helping me get the driver installed
[08:17] <ivoks> djm62 it's prism2 card
[08:17] <metalsand> but, this still isn't just working
[08:17] <Geezer041> Will i need to do this everytime i wish to install a program?
[08:17] <metalsand> djm62: I know it's one of the most popular cards
[08:17] <djm62> metalsand: is your network using WEP or WPA?
[08:18] <elcu> Geezer041: in short, yes.  check out ubuntuguide.org
[08:18] <Geezer041> thank you
[08:18] <metalsand> No, djm62 I turned it off when I tried to get this configured
[08:18] <ivoks> djm62 his card doesn't see network at all
[08:18] <metalsand> no MAC filtering
[08:18] <metalsand> and it can't scan
[08:18] <djm62> metalsand: you have been searching
[08:18] <metalsand> yet i've installed th drivers, modprobe prism2_cs shows nothing (no errors)
[08:18] <djm62> metalsand: is your router broadcasting SSID?
[08:18] <metalsand> Yes, djm62
[08:18] <tjoyce> does anyone know about Ubuntu Shipit? I wouldn't mind helping out burning & shipping CDs
[08:19] <metalsand> and I'm sure both the card and PCMCIA slot work because I've used them in both in Windows before
[08:19] <djm62> metalsand: and if you type "iwconfig wlan0 essid $YOURSSID" what happens?
[08:19] <batoms> tjoyce: i know i never got my cd, you can ship one to me ;)
[08:19] <djm62> (you might not get an IP but it would be a nice start)
[08:19] <metalsand> Error for wireless request "Set ESSID" (8B1A) :
[08:19] <metalsand>     SET failed on device wlan0 ; Operation not supported.
[08:20] <ivoks> metalsand u tried that as root? (with sudo)
[08:20] <djm62> metalsand: are you using sudo before these commands?
[08:20] <metalsand> that was at root
[08:20] <ivoks> hm hm
[08:20] <djm62> metalsand: are wlan-ng the best drivers for your card?
[08:21] <metalsand> djm62: AFAIK, yes
[08:21] <Le-Chuck> Shall I beg? I can't find further information on this damn phppgadmin, according to the readme apt-get install should have sufficed...
[08:21] <djm62> metalsand: that looks to me like the drivers aren't implementing all of the funcionality
[08:21] <dabaSlon> im going back 2 windows...this sucks...
[08:21] <dabaSlon> hah
[08:21] <djm62> Le-Chuck: no need to beg, but if people here could help, they would have done so
[08:21] <metalsand> djm62: I know others have gotten them tow ork :(
[08:21] <Le-Chuck> Ok thanks :)
[08:22] <djm62> metalsand: can you tell me the card model, for a quick googlecheck
[08:22] <Le-Chuck> It's just that there's no bug on bugzilla so either nobody uses it, or it works for everybody else, I think it's the second
[08:22] <metalsand> Senao SL 2511 PLUS EXT2
[08:22] <djm62> Le-Chuck: can you try for an IRC channel more specific to that software?
[08:23] <metalsand> Or sometiems it's listed as Senao NL 2511 PLUS EXT2
[08:23] <topyli> Le-Chuck: i bet they have a mailing list
[08:23] <metalsand> djm62: It's a prism 2.5 chipset card
[08:23] <ivoks> it's prism2
[08:24] <metalsand> 2.5 :P
[08:24] <djm62> metalsand: usb? pcmcia? pci?
[08:24] <mocker> hey everyone
[08:24] <ivoks> djm62 maybe it has rf switch or smoething?!
[08:25] <quicoju> hi! has anyone installed adesklets from source in your ubuntu?
[08:25] <metalsand> The package currently supports the Intersil
[08:25] <metalsand> 802.11b Prism2, Prism2.5, and Prism3 reference designs for PCMCIA, PCI, and
[08:25] <Le-Chuck> djm62, of course but the problem is surely specific to the ubuntu package - it's very easy to install the package in general from source, but I don't know anything about apache configuration, nor I know how ubuntu does the "automatic" configuration after installation
[08:25] <metalsand> USB. djm62  PCMCIA
[08:25] <metalsand> It's a PCMCIA card
[08:25] <dabaSlon> does anyone know if there is any compatibility between Ubuntu, and minidisc players?
[08:25] <mocker> So I downloaded the Armyops230-linux.run file, but I'm new to linux. Anyone mind telling me how to install it?
[08:25] <[1] punkass> when i enter my username and password in gdm it accepts it, pauses, then returns to gdm without error, and never logs me in...although i can get in via a terminal fine...anythougts?
[08:26] <topyli> mocker: run it :)
[08:26] <djm62> dabaSlon: notmd.sf.net
[08:26] <hybrid_goth> dabaSlon:  have you tried it as a mass drive
[08:26] <dabaSlon> thanks, Ill check it out
[08:26] <topyli> mocker: that is, in a terminal, do "sudo sh Armyops230-linux.run"
[08:26] <djm62> metalsand: reading now...what prism2 modules get loaded?
[08:26] <dabaSlon> i just plugged it so far.
[08:27] <metalsand> djm62: I'm not sure, but I know i need prism2_cs, and modprobe checks that with no errors
[08:27] <ivoks> metalsand lsmod
[08:27] <jahi> Hi, Im wondering if there was a live-CD, which comes with XFCE4 installed?
[08:27] <quicoju> help compiling  adesklets
[08:27] <ivoks> metalsand and don;t paste! :)
[08:27] <dabaSlon> djm62: its still pretty early...
[08:27] <metalsand> What shall i look for ivoks
[08:27] <ivoks> metalsand prism*
[08:28] <metalsand> prism2_cs              80168  1
[08:28] <metalsand> p80211                 33328  1 prism2_cs
[08:28] <DanglyBits> anyone have the kxdocker program running on their kubuntu system?
[08:28] <dabaSlon> actually, now I remember an article taht says use your output from your Sound card, and input into your minidisc, to record analog...
[08:28] <metalsand> pcmcia                 22244  5 prism2_cs
[08:28] <metalsand> Those 3
[08:29] <djm62> dabaSlon: I don't use MD...proprietary.  I was only aware of the project's existence
[08:29] <metalsand> Perhaps I just wasn't meant for Linux :(
[08:29] <AirWays> Why I can get only 60Hz at 1024x768 resolution even this screen supports 85Hz... Should I change xorg.conf files "VertRefresh     60-75" <-- line ?
[08:29] <djm62> metalsand: it all looks good...if you type dmesg directly after inserting the card, are there any conspicuous things going badly?
[08:29] <elcu> AirWays: yes
[08:30] <elcu> AirWays: hang on
[08:30] <neofeed> why does: oggenc --title="Know It All" --artist="Lagwagon" --album="Trashed" -o "03_know_it_all.ogg" "03_know_it_all.wav" --- not work when I run it though backtics?
[08:30] <AirWays> Okay
[08:30] <dabaSlon> djm62: I dont use it often any more either.
[08:30] <neofeed> I just did `oggenc --title="Know It All" --artist="Lagwagon" --album="Trashed" -o "03_know_it_all.ogg" "03_know_it_all.wav"` but that does not work :(
[08:30] <dabaSlon> ALthough its a cool device...
[08:30] <elcu> AirWays: back it up first, then find out the rates for your monitor, both horizontal, and vertical, then enter the correct details
[08:30] <dantheman> is there a way to make icons on my desktop smaller?
[08:30] <hybrid_goth> .ogg pwns
[08:30] <djm62> dabaSlon: I'm saving up for an iriver
[08:30] <topyli> metalsand: none of them are meant for linux. some just work because someone has written drivers :)
[08:30] <metalsand> hrmmm
[08:30] <dabaSlon> I like MD betted than CD, doesnt skip, no scratching issues...
[08:30] <DanglyBits> anyone point me to a HOWTO on installing Mambo-CMS
[08:30] <ali4728> Newbie needs help!! How can I check if a package/program is installed on my ubuntu machine through my shell? thnx...
[08:30] <metalsand> djm62: I get this
[08:31] <metalsand> Prism2 card SN: 04A236634\x00\x00\x00
[08:31] <metalsand> linkstatus=DISCONNECTED (unhandled)
[08:31] <metalsand> p80211knetdev_hard_start_xmit: Tx attempt prior to association, frame dropped.
[08:31] <metalsand> linkstatus=ASSOCFAIL (unhandled)
[08:31] <metalsand> p80211knetdev_hard_start_xmit: Tx attempt prior to association, frame dropped.
[08:31] <AirWays> Hm
[08:31] <dabaSlon> ali4728: type the packages name into the shell
[08:31] <hybrid_goth> metasland plz dont flood
[08:31] <Tatster> Danglybits - have you tried http://help.mamboserver.com
[08:31] <ali4728> no command?
[08:31] <hybrid_goth> try #flood
[08:31] <dabaSlon> maybe there is
[08:31] <djm62> metalsand: I'll go into #flood for further stuff
 No command with it?
[08:31] <elcu> metalsand: /msg him if necessary
[08:31] <LinuxJones> metalsand, what card do you have ?
[08:31] <Fator_Dee> ali4728: apt-cache show package
[08:31] <dabaSlon> if you install rar, and type in rar in a terminal it will run rar
[08:31] <maxx__> hello ubuntu users! :)
[08:31] <metalsand> I figured 5 lines wouldn't kill anyone
[08:31] <metalsand> sorry
[08:31] <dabaSlon> and if it was not installed,,,,it will tell you there is no such thing.
[08:32] <maxxu> i have a little problem with g++
 Thank you
[08:32] <dabaSlon> hello maxxu
[08:32] <djm62> metalsand: erm...this looks like a horrible problem: have you googled the exact error message?
[08:32] <maxxu> when i try to install any programs from source like gdeslets or xmms or anything else.. at ./configure i get the error than i don't have g++ installed
[08:33] <ivoks> maxxu apt-get install g++
[08:33] <maxxu> i tried with apt-get install g++-3.3, but it doesnt work
[08:33] <hybrid_goth> metalsand : thank you
[08:33] <elcu> maxxu: install build-essential
[08:33] <hybrid_goth> maxxu: try apt-cache search g++
[08:33] <maxxu> ok elcu let's try that
[08:33] <Gabriel> is there any good multimedia repo for hoary ppc?
[08:33] <Fator_Dee> Gabriel: what do you need?
[08:34] <paulproteus> A working mplayer, for a start. ;)
[08:34] <hybrid_goth> Gabriel: all you need is mplayer from their site
[08:34] <shadeofgrey> okay
[08:34] <AirWays> ammm?
[08:34] <shadeofgrey> i need help with enabling totem for DVD's
[08:34] <hybrid_goth> Gabriel: get the source and copile it b/c the ubuntu mplayer sux
[08:34] <AirWays> elcu?
[08:34] <djm62> metalsand: or tried....the hostap drivers for it?
[08:34] <ali4728> Newbie needs help!! How can open port 80 on my Ubuntu machine?
[08:34] <elcu> AirWays: yes?
[08:34] <mocker> hmmm, when I run the file it says the file doesn't exist
[08:34] <maxxu> build-essential: Depends: libc6-dev but it is not going to be installed or libc-dev Depends: g++ (>= 3:3.3) but it is not going to be installed E: Broken packages
[08:34] <maxxu> that is what i get
[08:34] <AirWays> Do you know answer to my problem?
[08:34] <ivoks> djm62 i tought that to, but aren't those just for hosting AP?
[08:34] <shadeofgrey> VLC isnt going to cut it.  they use the worst file menu ive ever seen in a computer program
[08:34] <AirWays> OH nothing
[08:35] <AirWays> You said that alredy
[08:35] <elcu> AirWays: find out the rates for your monitor, both horizontal, and vertical, then enter the correct details
[08:35] <LinuxJones> shadeofgrey, you have libdvdcss2 installed ?
[08:35] <Gabriel> Fator_Dee, actually nothing for now but I would simply like to know ;)
[08:35] <Boohbah> ali4728: you need to forward the port if you are behind a firewall
[08:35] <djm62> ivoks: no, I use them on ipaq
[08:35] <AirWays> "then find out the rates for your monitor, both horizontal, and vertical" <-- How I can do that?
[08:35] <shadeofgrey> not sure
[08:35] <metalsand> djm62: I missed the first thing you said
[08:35] <shadeofgrey> one moment
[08:35] <metalsand> Before or tried the hostap drivers
[08:35] <djm62> metalsand: try the hostap modules...
[08:35] <Boohbah> AirWays: read the fine manual
[08:35] <quicoju> tried to compile adesklets but the configure script says cannot find python include path, and i have python 2.4 installed
[08:35] <LinuxJones> shadeofgrey, you need that to be able to play back encrypted dvd's
[08:35] <maxxu> so can anyone help me with my problem?
[08:35] <AirWays> What fine manual
[08:35] <ivoks> metalsand sudo apt-get install hostap-source
[08:36] <Boohbah> AirWays: the one that came with your monitor
[08:36] <djm62> metalsand: apt-cache search hostap, and match your kernel with the available modules
[08:36] <djm62> ivoks: they're available precompiled
[08:36] <AirWays> This is million-years old
 Yeah OK but how about on Ubuntu how do I open the port 80 through Shell?
[08:36] <AirWays> Is there any other way
[08:36] <Boohbah> AirWays: or you can go to the manufacturer's web site
[08:36] <bluesign> Airways: check back of your monitor
[08:36] <ivoks> djm62 i'm not sure...
[08:36] <elcu> quicoju: IIRC, you need the python-dev package
[08:36] <AirWays> Back of monitor?
[08:36] <AirWays> Ah
[08:36] <AirWays> ->
[08:36] <djm62> ivoks: I just searched it ;)
[08:36] <quicoju> thanks
[08:36] <ivoks> djm62 ah, i'm on breezy :)
[08:36] <bluesign> airways: some times manufacturers write, or just google it
[08:37] <Boohbah> ali4728: well, you need to run a daemon that uses that port, such as apache
[08:37] <elcu> maxxu: apt-get update maybe?
[08:37] <AirWays> Hmm
[08:37] <metalsand> djm62: What command do I use to install after I find the one I need
[08:37] <maxxu> nope, it doesn't work
[08:37] <Fator_Dee> metalsand: apt-get install packagename
[08:37] <djm62> metalsand: sudo apt-get install hostap-modules-the-one-you-need
[08:37] <metalsand> I already have it cached, though
[08:38] <metalsand> oh
 Whch version of apache ? any idea?
[08:38] <elcu> maxxu: is your sources.list  ok?
[08:38] <tizen> anyone know if you can setup a keylogger as a firefox extension?
[08:38] <djm62> metalsand: or use synaptic...it's easier to give a command on IRC than demonstrate a mouse click though
[08:38] <maxxu> yes, i think. should i list the links?
[08:39] <metalsand> Okay
[08:39] <djm62> tizen: only for firefox...and why would you want to do that, anyway?
[08:39] <elcu> maxxu: not in here.
[08:39] <metalsand> Installed hostap-modules-2.4.26-1-686
[08:39] <Boohbah> ali4728: how about 2.0.54
[08:39] <ivoks> ok
[08:39] <maxxu> private then?
[08:39] <ali4728> 1.30xx?
[08:39] <elcu> #flood
 1.30xx?
[08:39] <elcu> maxxu: ok
[08:39] <Boohbah> ali4728: sure
[08:39] <djm62> metalsand: what kernel are you using? type "uname -a" to see
[08:39] <ivoks> metalsand now go to that wlan-ng directory
[08:39] <AirWays> Hmm
[08:40] <AirWays> There is only : 75 Hz refresh rate
[08:40] <AirWays> Nothing else
 I will also need php & mysql
[08:40] <AirWays> About horizsync
[08:40] <dman> any known problems with xine quiting directly after opening files?
[08:40] <metalsand> Linux ubuntu 2.6.10-5-686 #1
[08:40] <psychonate> dman, What files?
[08:40] <bluesign> airways: best way is to check manufacturer and model on google
[08:40] <metalsand> ivoks: okay
[08:40] <LinuxJones> dman, you probably don't have the playback codecs installed
[08:40] <darksatanic> dman: I've had that with MPEG2s.
[08:40] <AirWays> I'm doing that
[08:40] <ivoks> and do sudo make uninstall
[08:40] <elcu> AirWays: is it a brand-name monitor?
[08:40] <hybrid_goth> does vlc work on ppc ubuntu
[08:40] <AirWays> H Frequency : 30-66 Khz
[08:40] <AirWays> V Frequency : 50-130 Hz
[08:40] <AirWays> Those?
[08:40] <djm62> metalsand: damn! sudo apt-get install hostap-source
[08:41] <darksatanic> dman: My solution was to go back to the earlier version of libxine...
[08:41] <bluesign> airways: yep
[08:41] <tizen> djm62: to get my best friend's gmail password to mess with him :)
[08:41] <whiteknight> hybrid_goth: works on my ppc
[08:41] <metalsand> oh, okay djm
[08:41] <AirWays> And what about those?
[08:41] <ivoks> lol
[08:41] <ivoks> 2.4.x modules :)
[08:41] <jedipottsy> yo, im back :D
[08:41] <djm62> tizen: apt-get install evilness
[08:41] <anathema> damnit, of course themes dont seem to work in BMP
[08:41] <metalsand> hostap-source is already the newest version.
[08:41] <metalsand> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[08:41] <anathema> nothing ever works wiht themse
[08:41] <AirWays> H Frequency : 30-66 Khz
[08:41] <AirWays> V Frequency : 50-130 Hz
[08:41] <dman> i installed the win32codec package.. but no luck.. it does show the files in preview mode in nautilus..
[08:41] <AirWays> I put like that?
[08:41] <Barnabas> anathema, I justed to tell u I managed
[08:41] <Barnabas> oops
[08:41] <jedipottsy> is there logitech drivers for linux? i want to be able to use my forward and back button in web pages (mx1000)
[08:41] <bluesign> airways: yep
[08:42] <Barnabas> +just wanted
[08:42] <shadeofgrey> linux jones which source list contains libdvdcss2 ?
[08:42] <Tatster> Is there an equivalent of Windoze Group Policy controls (to restrict desktop changes etc)  in Ubuntu?
[08:42] <AirWays> Okay
[08:42] <metalsand> djm62: next step?
[08:42] <AirWays> I'll test ->
[08:42] <tizen> djm62: It's just for a prank dude.
[08:42] <larsrohdin> how to format a disc with fat32?
[08:42] <djm62> metalsand: hang on, I'll get them myself (memory not great)
[08:42] <Boohbah> ali4728: check out what google found: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/PHPDevelopmentHowTo
[08:42] <LinuxJones> shadeofgrey, marillate
[08:42] <hybrid_goth> whiteknight: will i need to get all those codecs on the site
[08:43] <Squalleh> hi
[08:43] <hybrid_goth> or is there a deb
[08:43] <jedipottsy> what command to get bmp?
[08:43] <whiteknight> hybrid_goth: no, though i did have to compile libdvdcss myself
[08:43] <anathema> jedipottsy, sudo apt-get install beep-media-player
[08:43] <djm62> jedipottsy: I think it's beep-media-player
[08:43] <LinuxJones> dman, what kind of file are you trying to open up /
[08:43] <jedipottsy> thnx
[08:43] <anathema> djm62, you get skins working?
[08:43] <anathema> man im having bad luck wiht skins
[08:43] <whiteknight> hybrid_goth: the only problem is that my iBook even with dma enabled can't play a dvd smoothly enough
[08:43] <anathema> for gnome and for beep
[08:43] <anathema> haah
[08:43] <jedipottsy> now whats command to get "mouse" drivers so i can use the other buttons
[08:43] <anathema> what mouse
[08:44] <jedipottsy> logitech
[08:44] <anathema> dont need a driver
[08:44] <jedipottsy> mx1000
[08:44] <anathema> ill show you jedipottsy sec
[08:44] <jedipottsy> forward and back button dont work
[08:44] <larsrohdin> i don't understand this mkfs thing... how can i format my /dev/hdb1 with fat32?
[08:44] <anathema> http://www.linux-gamers.net/modules/wfsection/article.php?articleid=46
[08:44] <anathema> read that
[08:44] <hybrid_goth> whiteknight: yea the mplayer plays tv shows nice but it isnt that great for dvds
[08:44] <hybrid_goth> G3?
[08:44] <anathema> shows how to get the mx1000 workign
[08:44] <dman> darksatanic: im using an old knoppix 3.3 distr. to play EVERYTHING... i dont understand why it does not work in ubuntu.. even after the multimedia updates..
[08:44] <djm62> anathema: I don't use skinds
[08:44] <anathema> ah
[08:44] <anathema> the beep default is kind of ugly
[08:44] <ivoks> metalsand stucked? :)
[08:44] <anathema> too bright
[08:45] <metalsand> ivoks: djm62 is getting steps :P
[08:45] <dark> mx1000 didnt work for me, had laser turn off issues, was horrible for games :x and that was in windows
[08:45] <djm62> ivoks: it's been a while...I'm reading /usr/share/doc
[08:45] <ivoks> metalsand i told you couple of days ago to install hostap-source :)
[08:45] <ivoks> but no...
[08:45] <anathema> buddy has it wokring fine in linux dark
[08:45] <Anubis> http://www.realistanew.com/2005/03/18/gnome-menu-editor/
[08:45] <ivoks> :))
[08:45] <jedipottsy> i love my mx1000 - just wish batt life was longer
[08:45] <anathema> very good for games
[08:45] <dark> hmm interesting
[08:45] <metalsand> ivoks: I was always following your every command :P
[08:45] <ali4728> Help 1 I installed apache2 what is the comand to start the server? thnx
[08:45] <dark> my issue was, id pick it up off the pad, and the laser would turn off
[08:46] <dark> so when i put it back down, it took a second to turn on
[08:46] <dark> so it lagged by 1-2 secs on sharp turns
[08:46] <ivoks> metalsand you didn't if u did, you would't have problems with LOG-FILE :P
[08:46] <dark> (horrible for fps obviously :x)
[08:46] <metalsand> lol
[08:46] <djm62> metalsand: apt-cache search linux-headers and get the one that match your kernel
[08:46] <dark> hopefully they fixed it inone of the revisions
[08:46] <ivoks> djm62 he has them
[08:46] <metalsand> I belive I have the newest ones
[08:46] <djm62> ivoks: ah good
[08:46] <ivoks> djm62 he has whole source, configure for his kernel :)
[08:46] <djm62> ivoks: does that make it look like make-kpkg?
[08:46] <ali4728> Help 1 I installed apache2 what is the comand to start the server? thnx
[08:47] <LinuxJones> ali4728, /etc/init.d/apa{TAB} restart
[08:47] <dman> LinuxJones: can't say that one file type never works and another one does..
[08:47] <ivoks> djm62 I wouldn't suggest, guy is total newbie
[08:47] <dark> sweet, i may try one again
[08:47] <dark> had to return my 1000 for a 510
[08:47] <eruin> make-jpkg :P
[08:47] <LinuxJones> dman, it's intermittent ?
[08:47] <punkrockguy318> How can I get vim to remember my cursor position on files?
[08:47] <jedipottsy> ok is there a software i can make calls with in linux/
[08:47] <Fish-Face> Hi, is gimp-2.2.6 in any of the hoary repos?
[08:47] <metalsand> djm62: He's right. It's my first week in Linux
 appreciated
[08:47] <dman> LinuxJones: some avi's work others don't, totem-xine just exits without any error..
[08:47] <djm62> ivoks: I was wondering if it was as though that was already done
[08:48] <ivoks> djm62 better to go configure/make/make install
[08:48] <thenewlax> anyone get any problems with there soundcard not working all of a sudden. A box popped up that said: Please Check that your soundcard is configured properly, u have the correct output plugin selected and no other program is blocking the sound card
[08:48] <LinuxJones> ali4728, gotta love the TAB auto-complete :)
[08:48] <ivoks> djm62 nope, I think that he has only headers now...
[08:48] <djm62> metalsand: have you got fakeroot? if not, apt-cache search, the usual
[08:48] <metalsand> I'm still in the /etc/wlan
[08:48] <ali4728> I know magic
[08:48] <dman> LinuxJones: no.. some avi's or mpg's NEVER work
[08:48] <metalsand> wondering if I hsould make --- Make install
[08:48] <LinuxJones> dman, your running Hoary ?
[08:48] <ivoks> djm62 it's been couple of days, i don't remeber what i said to install or deinstall :)
[08:48] <dman> LinuxJones: yes
[08:48] <thenewlax> yea i am
[08:48] <jedipottsy> is there wma support in windows?
[08:48] <ivoks> djm62 fakeroot?
[08:49] <ivoks> djm62 that wouldn't help him
[08:49] <elcu> jedipottsy: er, yes
[08:49] <djm62> metalsand: this is a baptism of fire for you..sorry
[08:49] <BiSON> is it possible to install windows xp with the same ubuntu disk partition ?
[08:49] <LinuxJones> dman, sudo apt-get update && apt-get install gstreamer0.8-plugins
[08:49] <metalsand> ahaahahah
[08:49] <elcu> BiSON: yes
[08:49] <djm62> ivoks: fakeroot debian/rules binary no?
[08:49] <jedipottsy> elcu, how?
[08:49] <eruin> wow
[08:49] <thenewlax> can anyone help me out??
[08:49] <eruin> the force shutdown applet is insanely ugly
[08:49] <eruin> :)
[08:49] <elcu> jedipottsy: do you mean support in ubuntu?
[08:49] <ivoks> djm62 in /usr/src?
[08:49] <BiSON> elcu, hhpw ?
[08:49] <ivoks> djm62 he can't do anything as user there :)
[08:49] <BiSON> elcu, how ?
[08:49] <djm62> ivoks: in $HOME?
[08:50] <ivoks> djm62 hostap-source is in /usr/src
[08:50] <jedipottsy> elcu, yeah
[08:50] <elcu> BiSON: installing ubuntu first or before?
[08:50] <Squalleh> hi
[08:50] <jedipottsy> elcu, i wanna be able to play wma files
[08:50] <eruin> I think totem-xine can play wma with the w32codecs package
[08:50] <ivoks> jedipottsy install windows :)
[08:50] <BiSON> elcu, first
[08:50] <djm62> ivoks: hang on...I thought it was a tar.bz2
[08:50] <eruin> (look for restrictedformats on the wiki)
[08:50] <thenewlax> anyone get any problems with there soundcard not working all of a sudden. A box popped up that said: Please Check that your soundcard is configured properly, u have the correct output plugin selected and no other program is blocking the sound card
[08:50] <xukun> anybody if its possible to add keyserver somewhere in ~.gnupg?
[08:50] <eruin> rhyhtmbox, etc cant play wma since it uses gstreamer
[08:50] <metalsand> eh, how do I What's the cmd to serch apt-cache?
[08:50] <anathema> wonder if there is a beep channel i can ask in
[08:50] <anathema> haha
[08:50] <djm62> metalsand: apt-cache search
[08:50] <elcu> BiSON: you might have problems with the bootloader.
[08:50] <dman> LinuxJones: already got the latest installed
[08:50] <ivoks> djm62 it is, but when you unpack it, it creates /usr/src/modules/hostap-source/
[08:50] <whiteknight> thenewlax: what program are you trying to use?
[08:50] <xukun> bob2: do you have any idea?
[08:51] <Squalleh> im trying to load ubuntu live, but when it boots it seems to freeze up on loading enterprise volume management system...any ideas?
[08:51] <ivoks> Squalleh ctrl c
[08:51] <LinuxJones> dman, argh I am out of ideas dude :(
[08:51] <thenewlax> xine
[08:51] <jedipottsy> ivoks, without installing wma
[08:51] <metalsand> devscripts - Scripts to make the life of a Debian Package maintainer easier
[08:51] <metalsand> fakeroot - Gives a fake root environment
[08:51] <BiSON> elcu, so ?
[08:51] <metalsand> No info on which kernal install I should get :/
[08:51] <elcu> BiSON: i've always done windows, then ubuntu.
[08:51] <djm62> ivoks: it creates whatever you tell it ;) from $HOME, tar -xjvf /usr/src/hostap-*
[08:51] <ivoks> Squalleh and deinstall evlm
[08:51] <Squalleh> ?
[08:51] <Squalleh> uh huh
[08:51] <Squalleh> lemme get a pen
[08:51] <jedipottsy> ivoks, without installing windows*
[08:51] <LinuxJones> dman, can you install gxine ?
[08:51] <ivoks> djm62 ok, do what you think is best :)
[08:51] <djm62> metalsand: sudo apt-get install fakeroot
[08:51] <anathema> nice found it
[08:52] <LinuxJones> dman, it works ok for me
[08:52] <metalsand> done
[08:52] <ivoks> jedipottsy hm... buy mp3 player that can play wma :)
[08:52] <elcu> BiSON: most linux distros know you might install on a box with windows already on it.  windows doesn't give a fuck.
[08:52] <djm62> ivoks: I fear messing around in /usr/src... root can always make a mistake
[08:52] <BiSON> elcu, ok i will remove ubuntu and install windows and then install ubuntu but is there any special steps for that ?
[08:52] <ivoks> djm62 true
[08:52] <jedipottsy> nvm,
[08:52] <amonkey> how can i figure out what firewall i'm running on my linux box? nmap shows only a few ports open, but iptables does't ahev any restrictions(i think)
[08:53] <elcu> BiSON: if you want to dual boot, you need to paritition.  the ubuntu installer can do that for you, and resize the windows paritition to make room.
[08:53] <djm62> metalsand: ok...can you type (as a normal user, in your home directory) "tar -xjvf /usr/src/hostap*"
[08:53] <jedipottsy> how can i enable 6.1 sound for music files?
[08:53] <dman> LinuxJones: gxine is already installed.. exits with the same files..
[08:53] <ivoks> amonkey lol
[08:53] <elcu> *partition
[08:53] <jedipottsy> or cant i?
[08:53] <ivoks> amonkey there only are few ports open by default
[08:53] <Fator_Dee> amonkey: if you have not installed any, you don't have any
[08:53] <LinuxJones> dman, your on Hoary ?
[08:53] <metalsand> Okay dokey, djm62
[08:53] <ivoks> amonkey and there is only one firewall - netfilter aka iptables
[08:53] <metalsand> Done :)
[08:53] <BiSON> elcu, make 2 paritition ?
[08:53] <djm62> and now you have a modules directory, right?
[08:53] <dman> LinuxJones: yes
[08:54] <elcu> what is your current computer setup? ubuntu on the drive and that's it?
[08:54] <metalsand> Eh. You know better than I do :P
[08:54] <amonkey> ivoks: i know i'm a nub, but i wasn't the one who set up the box. how can i open up a port on iptables?
[08:54] <LinuxJones> dman, I am out of ideas :(
[08:54] <metalsand>  Yes, yes I do
[08:54] <ivoks> amonkey ?
[08:54] <metalsand> module/hostapt-source ect
[08:54] <ivoks> amonkey they all are open
[08:54] <eruin> whats he trying to play with gxine?
[08:54] <shadeofgrey> okay guys.  i installed libdvdcss2 and totem still wont play DVD's
[08:54] <Fator_Dee> amonkey: do you know if he who set the box up conffed a firewall?
[08:54] <djm62> metalsand: always good to check
[08:55] <shadeofgrey> is there another package besides that -- that i need?
[08:55] <BiSON> elcu, yup and 3 other parititons
[08:55] <eruin> anyone wanna play wma, etc: READ http://ubuntu.com/wiki/RestrictedFormats
[08:55] <ali4728> What is the correct command to install php (the version which works with mysql) I get the following Error when I try!!!
[08:55] <ali4728> # apt-get install php4   / message: E: Couldn't find package
[08:55] <metalsand> djm62: Of course
[08:55] <elcu> shadeofgrey: totem-gstreamer?
[08:55] <djm62> metalsand: I'm just grabbing my own kernel headers to do this in parallel
[08:55] <shadeofgrey> ahhhh!
[08:55] <topyli> LinuxJones: is gxine a good music player? how does it handle playlists. i'm looking for a media player to end all media players
[08:55] <susanne> hi all, what was the name of the metapackape again, that pulls all packages for c++ development in?
[08:55] <metalsand> djm62: Sure things, djm62.
[08:55] <elcu> shadeofgrey: no, i meant do you have that installed or totem-xine
[08:55] <eruin> topyli: no
[08:55] <LinuxJones> eruin, all video files he tries to play back crashes any playback software he has tried. xine totem etc...
[08:55] <metalsand> If you can get this working you have no idea how greatful I'll be
[08:55] <metalsand> I've been at this for over 15 hours, no joke
[08:56] <shadeofgrey> streamer
[08:56] <m3jsh> hey guys, anyone know the command to see what kernel you're using?
[08:56] <amonkey> fator_dee: no, but i think he did because i couldn't reach the azureus webinterfacte on it's port even though i could lnyx to it from ssh on the box itself
[08:56] <topyli> eruin: referring to gxine?
[08:56] <metalsand> uname -a
[08:56] <snugglebunny> topyli, I'm a fan of rhythmbox. But only because of the lack of excellent linux media players.
[08:56] <djm62> metalsand: yeah, things get frustrating when you don't even know what's going wrong
[08:56] <eruin> topyli: yes, it's not a good music player at all
[08:56] <LinuxJones> topyli, gxine is a video player, rhythmbox is no good for you ?
[08:56] <m3jsh> metalsand: thanks
[08:56] <susanne> uname -r
[08:56] <metalsand> m3jsh: Uh uhuh :)
[08:56] <Fator_Dee> amonkey: look through the gnome menu if you have firestarter installed
[08:56] <ivoks> Linux i8600 2.6.10-ivoks-686 #1 Thu May 5 06:01:25 CEST 2005 i686 GNU/Linux
[08:56] <shadeofgrey> should i have xine instead/
[08:56] <shadeofgrey> ?
[08:56] <elcu> BiSON: personally how i'd do it is to format using windows, deleting all the partitions.  then install ubuntu by resizing the windows partition to make room for the linux partitions.
[08:56] <ramai> Hi, does anybody know if there is a progam for linux like power dvd fo windows?
[08:56] <ali4728> # apt-get install php4   / message: E: Couldn't find package
[08:56] <ali4728> What is the correct command to install php (the version which works with mysql) I get the following Error when I try!!!
[08:57] <amonkey> fator_dee: ssh access only
[08:57] <metalsand> djm62: Yep, everything's been an uphill struggle in Linux. But I already apprciate it a lot
[08:57] <elcu> BiSON: i'm not sure if you want extra partitions though
[08:57] <topyli> snugglebunny, LinuxJones, rhythmbox is nice. and totem is OK. i'd like to have just one app
[08:57] <metalsand> That's why I'm so devoted :P
[08:57] <topyli> like mplayer
[08:57] <dark> anyone see breakage on gnome from breezy updates around last night?
[08:57] <metalsand> XMMS is a nice audio player
[08:57] <djm62> metalsand: when it works, it works...when it doesn't work, it can be a right little bugger
[08:57] <snugglebunny> topyli, There is no good single system. Totem is nice for vid and rhythm is nice for audio
[08:57] <elcu> shadeofgrey: i was told to switch to the xine version
[08:57] <eruin> ali4728: eruin@lorien:~ $ sudo apt-get install php4 -> php4 is already the latest version.
[08:57] <topyli> snugglebunny: yeah, so far i've settled for them
[08:57] <snugglebunny> I think one of the biggest problems atm is the lack of relationship between media files and programs and a cohesive library system
[08:57] <Jibby> anyone know why when i use gxine the audio/video is outta sync?
[08:57] <amonkey> fator_dee: it's a server on a fat ass pipe, and i want to torrent off of it. i couldn't access the azureus interface, but i'm using torrentflux but the upload rate is dismal. much the same as it would be if i didn't have my nat setup right
[08:57] <metalsand> XMMS doesn't need a plugin installed :P
[08:57] <amonkey> so i think the port is blocked
[08:58] <BiSON> elcu, i can delete the patitions and make 2 parts, one for the windows and the other for ubuntu ,, how is that ?
[08:58] <metalsand> djm62: I'm not done am I? :P
[08:58] <snugglebunny> topyli, All that needs to happen is for a library system to be integreated into totem
[08:58] <drcode> hi all
[08:58] <snugglebunny> Hmm I do have some free time this summer
[08:58] <topyli> metalsand: xmms was nice 10 years ago. almost anything has a better interface than xmms these days :)
[08:58] <elcu> BiSON: yes, that would work, although technically ubuntu usually takes another partition when you select it to automatically allocate the free space.
[08:58] <drcode> in cygwin I Use xwin to connect to linux
[08:59] <Fator_Dee> amonkey: if he set the firewall with firestarter it would be easy to open a port
[08:59] <drcode> in linux how I Can connect to other linux?
[08:59] <paulproteus> topyli: beep-media-player > xmms
[08:59] <BiSON> elcu, ok thanks dude
[08:59] <LinuxJones> topyli, I don't know if there is a one size fits all media player for Linux that does everything
[08:59] <paulproteus> metalsand: beep-media-player > xmms
[08:59] <elcu> BiSON: you can resize the windows partition by selecting the size part in the installer IIRC, hoary.
[08:59] <snugglebunny> most things > xmms
[08:59] <ivoks> drcode in many ways :)
[08:59] <djm62> metalsand: ok
[08:59] <Fator_Dee> amonkey: I'd suggest you ask the guy who set up your box to help out, that would be the easiest way
[08:59] <eruin> rhythmbox 0.9 > all
[08:59] <paulproteus> It's a drop-in replacement for XMMS using GTK 2.
[08:59] <drcode> I want to use xdcm
[08:59] <paulproteus> eruin: quodlibet > rhythmbox
[08:59] <paulproteus> :)
[08:59] <drcode> or somthing
[08:59] <eruin> paulproteus: hahaha
[08:59] <drcode> not vnc
[08:59] <topyli> LinuxJones: mplayer, but it has a horrible interface too
[08:59] <ivoks> drcode and vnc
[08:59] <paulproteus> Rhythmbox is really high latency for me.  Quod Libet is very smooth.
 I get the error # apt-get install php4   / message: E: Couldn't find package
[09:00] <metalsand> djm62: Ok?
[09:00] <paulproteus> eruin: What's so funny?
[09:00] <eruin> if a media player can't do automatic playlists and burn audi cds, then it sucks imo
[09:00] <ivoks> paulproteus quodlibet rocks
[09:00] <djm62> metalsand: cd /usr/src
[09:00] <snugglebunny> the real problem is that rhythmplayer is the best of a bad bunch and still doesn't really fufil its aims
[09:00] <anathema> is there a way to make all files in a dir all lower case?
[09:00] <paulproteus> snugglebunny: No, but quod libet does! :)
[09:00] <anathema> they are upper case now
[09:00] <metalsand> Okay
[09:00] <snugglebunny> paulproteus, I'll check it out
[09:00] <ivoks> eruin rhythmbox sucks :p
[09:00] <ivoks> :))
[09:00] <eruin> ivoks: what version+
[09:00] <drcode> I mean not vnc
[09:00] <eruin> you're all rhythmbox 0.8 nubs :P
[09:00] <drcode> like I do in cygwin with xwin
[09:00] <ivoks> eruin yours
[09:00] <paulproteus> drcode: ssh -X ?
[09:00] <ivoks> eruin development version
[09:01] <djm62> metalsand: and ln -s <your linux headers> linux
[09:01] <eruin> ivoks: what branch?
[09:01] <ivoks> can't rename tags
[09:01] <drcode> it will connect to my x server?
[09:01] <drcode> like I do in xwin?
[09:01] <ivoks> eruin that one i d/w from you
[09:01] <metalsand> How do I find out which linux headers I have
[09:01] <djm62> metalsand: putting sudo before that
[09:01] <eruin> ivoks: enable it when you build then
[09:01] <eruin> sheesh
[09:01] <djm62> metalsand: cd /usr/src then type ls
[09:01] <jedipottsy> how do i install skype?
[09:01] <ivoks> eruin i did, but i doesn't listen to me
[09:01] <eruin> then you didn't ;)
[09:01] <metalsand> I have 2 versions  :-x
[09:01] <ivoks> did
[09:01] <jedipottsy> i have downloaded the deb file
[09:01] <djm62> metalsand: the one with your processor in
[09:01] <ivoks> :p
[09:01] <AirWays> How I can install .deb package?
[09:01] <ivoks> :))
[09:01] <metalsand> One matches my kernal
[09:01] <Fator_Dee> AirWays: sudo dpkg -i debfile.deb
[09:01] <LinuxJones> AirWays, dpkg -i packaename.deb
[09:02] <djm62> metalsand: what are they?
[09:02] <forsaker8k6> hi guys
[09:02] <AirWays> Thaks
[09:02] <metalsand> linux-headers-2.6.10-5
[09:02] <metalsand> linux-headers-2.6.10-5-686
[09:02] <LinuxJones> forsaker8k6, hi
[09:02] <BiSON> AirWays, sudo dpkg -i package.deb
[09:02] <djm62> metalsand: the one with 686 in
[09:02] <eruin> the latter package should fetch the first
[09:02] <metalsand> Okay, dj
[09:02] <metalsand> I ran the cmd :)
[09:03] <thenewlax> anyone get any problems with there soundcard not working all of a sudden. A box popped up that said: Please Check that your soundcard is configured properly, u have the correct output plugin selected and no other program is blocking the sound card
[09:03] <snugglebunny> paulproteus, it looks very nice. But I'll wait till it's past 0.1
[09:04] <paulproteus> snugglebunny: I use it every day, and it's really a refreshingly good program.
[09:04] <LinuxJones> thenewlax, run gstreamer-properties and play around with the default output sink
[09:04] <paulproteus> I happen to have had good experiences with this developer before; his name is Joe Wreschnig.  But anyway, up to you.
[09:04] <forsaker8k6> people, i would like to give breezy a try.. any good reason for not doing it? (i have an amd64 system)
[09:04] <DanglyBits> i just bought some new digital headphone/mic combo..how can i check to see is ubuntu sound is setup correctly?
[09:04] <metalsand> djm62: Next step?
[09:04] <DanglyBits> usb headphone/mic combo
[09:05] <snugglebunny> paulproteus, I tend to be wary about playing around on a system which is working perfectly
[09:05] <djm62> metalsand: made the link?
[09:05] <snugglebunny> or as near to perfect as computers get
[09:05] <metalsand> djm62: Yes
[09:05] <hans_> how is the performance of the nvidia drivers for linux?
[09:05] <thenewlax> none of them work
[09:05] <thenewlax> WTF
[09:06] <forsaker8k6> hans_, cannot complain about
[09:06] <eruin> haich: great
[09:06] <hans_> better than the ati drivers?
[09:06] <eruin> hans_ even
[09:06] <eruin> yes
[09:06] <LinuxJones> thenewlax, do you know if you were running the alsa drivers ?
[09:06] <djm62> metalsand: now, go to the modules/hostap directory
[09:06] <Gabriel> Fator_Dee, well finally I need libdvdcss on my ppc to read DVD
[09:06] <forsaker8k6> yes hans_
[09:06] <forsaker8k6> that is for sure
[09:06] <djm62> metalsand: sorry, chaos at home here ;)
[09:06] <thenewlax> right now in the gstreamer preferences it says i wasnrt
[09:07] <thenewlax> i was using ESD
[09:07] <LinuxJones> thenewlax, paste the output of lsmod to www.pastebin.ca then post the link to it here in irc
[09:07] <djm62> metalsand: then simply type "fakeroot debian/rules binary-modules"
[09:07] <aurax> hello
[09:07] <djm62> metalsand: and if it doesn't work, I'll consume ma chapeau
[09:07] <aurax> anyone knows a good printer+copier+scanner that works good under ubuntu ?
[09:08] <Amaranth> I've heard good things about HPs.
[09:08] <aurax> laser?
[09:08] <metalsand> djm62: I'm having trouble finding the right dir
[09:08] <snugglebunny> HP seem to have the best linux support
[09:08] <aurax> i saw lots, but none has nix compability
[09:08] <aurax> true
[09:08] <metalsand> modules/hostap-source/driver/modules/hostap_proc.c
[09:08] <aurax> you know any specific model ?
[09:08] <djm62> metalsand: you tar -xjvf-ed it in your home directory, right?
[09:08] <metalsand> I'm in /usr/src
[09:08] <metalsand> Yes, djm
[09:08] <djm62> metalsand: cd ~/modules/hostap
[09:09] <eruin> lol
[09:09] <thenewlax> http://pastebin.ca/11247
[09:09] <eruin> "output of lsmod"
[09:09] <eruin> :P
[09:09] <rhys-hynaws> I am having samba problems.  I need libdvdcss
[09:11] <djm62> metalsand: if not, cd .. and type ls...ready to install ;)
[09:11] <ivoks> djm62 whatch out.. he will paste now :)
[09:11] <trygvebw> Gabriel, isn't that in Restricted or Multiverse?
[09:11] <djm62> metalsand: "cd .."
[09:11] <metalsand> Looks good
[09:11] <toby_> how can I get past su? installation never asked me for a root password O_o
[09:11] <trygvebw> toby_, Ubuntu uses sudo
[09:11] <djm62> toby_: there is not root
[09:12] <toby_> ohh
[09:12] <trygvebw> To run a command as root, type "sudo command"
[09:12] <ivoks> toby_ sudo -s
[09:12] <thenewlax> http://pastebin.ca/11248
[09:12] <thenewlax> there
[09:12] <toby_> heh, thanks :>
[09:12] <thenewlax> my bad
[09:12] <trygvebw> or type "sudo -i" to go into a root shell :)
[09:12] <rhys-hynaws> I am having samba problems. Help?
[09:12] <metalsand> hostap-modules-2.6.10-5-686_0.2.6-1_i386.deb  hostap-source
[09:12] <djm62> metalsand: you see the .deb file there...
[09:12] <tarzeau> someone play Bub-n-Bros.sf.net with me?
[09:12] <elcu> or run the root terminal from menu
[09:12] <metalsand> Looks good, djm62
[09:12] <metalsand> Yes, I see it
[09:12] <djm62> metalsand: dpkg -i nameofthatfile.deb
[09:12] <Gabriel> trygvebw, maybe not for PPC ?
[09:12] <djm62> metalsand: "sudo dpkg -i ...."
[09:13] <neofeed> anyone might help me trace down my printing issue?
[09:13] <metalsand> and it's off!
[09:13] <metalsand> alright, done.
[09:13] <djm62> ivoks: feeling manly?
[09:13] <jedipottsy> is there a free skypeout?
[09:13] <djm62> metalsand: I'm not sure what that has done to your hotplug scripts, but the modules are now correctly installed
[09:14] <ivoks> djm62 ? :)
[09:14] <djm62> metalsand: it was only about 5 commands really, 5 commands and a lot of worry
[09:14] <metalsand> Horray, so what did I just do now? :P
[09:14] <dominik_> does anybody know the irc chan of ubuntuusers.de ?
[09:14] <LinuxJones> thenewlax, do you have a SB Audigy card ?
[09:14] <ivoks> builded your first debian package :)
[09:14] <metalsand> Installed hostap-source
[09:14] <trygvebw> Gabriel, no idea
[09:14] <ivoks> metalsand builded your first debian package :)
[09:14] <metalsand> Which.... Will make my card hopefully work?
[09:14] <hybrid_goth> Gabriel: whats up
[09:14] <djm62> ivoks: I have to go feed my family...can you help him get hostap modules associated with his card if it hasn't happened automatically
[09:14] <LinuxJones> dominik_, join #ubuntu-de
[09:14] <hybrid_goth> ?
[09:14] <ivoks> djm62 i'll try
[09:15] <ivoks> metalsand ok... now do this
[09:15] <dominik_> thx
[09:15] <metalsand> Thanks djm62 ;)
[09:15] <ivoks> metalsand sudo /etc/init.d/hotplug restart
[09:15] <djm62> metalsand: almost certainly it will have your card working, but I must now go...best of british ;)
[09:15] <metalsand> You probably saved theday :P
[09:15] <thenewlax> i dunno
[09:15] <Gabriel> hybrid_goth, I need libdvdcss for my hoary ppc system
[09:15] <larsrohdin> how can I change the ownership of a fat32 dev?
[09:15] <thenewlax> this is the first time my audio hasnt worked
[09:15] <larsrohdin> sudo chown gives me Operation not permitted...
[09:15] <LinuxJones> thenewlax, ok do lspci -v and look for a multimedia/sound device and tell us the model or type of card
[09:15] <ivoks> metalsand try iwconfig to see if there is any card
[09:15] <trygvebw> ?
[09:15] <trygvebw> hm
[09:15] <xukun> Can I configure Gnupg to automatically fetch puplic keys as necessary? I think this comes in very handy with Mutt, as I won,t have to go and download and Import a key manualy in another terminal
[09:15] <metalsand> Okay, ivoks
[09:16] <trygvebw> larsrohdin, try "sudo -i" and command then
[09:16] <xukun> of topic I know
[09:16] <metalsand> wlan0 is there
[09:16] <metalsand> still
[09:16] <ivoks> metalsand now give me lsmod | grep prism
[09:16] <anathema> jesus metalsand, i would have given up so long ago
[09:16] <larsrohdin> trygvebw, /bin/chown: /bin/chown: cannot execute binary file
[09:16] <trygvebw> huh...
[09:16] <anathema> actually i probly wouldnt
[09:16] <anathema> haha
[09:16] <trygvebw> hm
[09:16] <metalsand> 4 lines of code, should I go to flood??
[09:16] <ivoks> metalsand give me on private
[09:16] <anathema> metalsand, easier to use pastebin
[09:17] <stuNNed> xukun: sure, edit ~/.gnupg/gpg.conf works for me in evolution
[09:17] <anathema> than flood
[09:17] <trygvebw> larsrohdin, try copying it somewhere chmoding it
[09:17] <trygvebw> and copying it back
[09:17] <thenewlax> Creative Labs SB Live!
[09:17] <larsrohdin> trygvebw, what?
[09:17] <thenewlax> 0000:00:14.1 Input device controller: Creative Labs SB Live! MIDI/Game Port (rev  07)