[00:22] <cwayne_> sergiusens, thanks for the comments, pushed  a fix, which also addresses dpm's concerns (at least a little bit)
[00:22] <sergiusens> cwayne_, ack, although I'm not sure you can solve dpm's concerns, can you?
[00:23] <cwayne_> sergiusens, not fully, but we can at least check that the given locale is installed
[00:23] <cwayne_> instead of checking on the host, as it was (incorrectly) done before
[00:25] <sergiusens> cwayne_, oh, it was checking on the host :-P didn't notice that :-)
[00:25] <cwayne_> heh yep, that was a problem :)
[00:26] <cwayne_> sergiusens, but that's another thing we could (in the future) do as an arg for phablet-config locale (maybe have like phablet-config locale --install zh_CN or something)
[00:26] <cwayne_> but not necessary yet i'd say
[00:27] <sergiusens> cwayne_, /usr/share/locale would need to be writable though, right?
[00:27] <cwayne_> sergiusens, yeah, or there'd have to be a remount (less good)
[00:28] <cwayne_> but either way, that's more of a future problem imho
[00:29] <sergiusens> cwayne_, ack, I'll check out what you pushed
[00:29] <sergiusens> cwayne_, by the way, which locale should work ootb?
[00:30] <cwayne_> sergiusens, zh_CN, fr, es
[00:31] <sergiusens> thanks
[00:31] <sergiusens> yeah, not sure I did not try spanish first :-)
[00:31] <cwayne_> :)
[00:32] <cwayne_> spanish has pretty good translation coverage in the image too (i just need to check out click apps once the upstart-app-launch fix lands)
[03:32] <Aarsh_> mediatek chipset guide plz
[03:39] <Aarsh_> i want to flash ubuntu for android on my andrid phone
[03:40] <Aarsh_> here's specs chart ->http://www.xolo.in/A500L
[03:41] <Aarsh_> any one on google+ ?
[03:51] <Aarsh_> any one on google+?
[03:54] <darwin> Is there any work on making this variant work for newer Archos tablets? (it works for slightly older ones)
[03:56] <darwin> I just bought one, and could maybe do a little, but maybe not writing drivers... even though I got a CS degree, I almost got a math one, and was working on an art one, and I am a bit more math & geometry, and philosophy-focused at this point than on programming... but I would have no problem installing something that could let me try booting an install media, then trying to set up an entire OS, and seeing if it works
[07:12] <didrocks> bzoltan1: ogra_: hey, once you are here, ubuntu-ui-toolkit doesn't pass its AP test with latest trunk it seems. See bug #1252416
[07:12] <didrocks> but it seems flacky
[07:12] <tvoss_> Saviq, ping
[07:12] <bzoltan1> didrocks: I am checking it out
[07:12] <didrocks> Mirv: hey, around? from the results on the spreadhseet, it seems we can publish ubuntu-ui-toolkit then, doing it?
[07:15] <bzoltan1> didrocks: that output just does not make any sense
[07:15] <Mirv> didrocks: yeah, it looked like that, I was wanting to someone take a look at cu2d and tell what's up on that side - how did it build in PPA (it did, though) while the build job states it was last ran 10 days ago
[07:16] <didrocks> bzoltan1: yeah, see, it's hard to know if something just crashed on his phone and it created a circle of doom
[07:16] <didrocks> Mirv: urgh? really? is it in the ppa at least?
[07:16] <bzoltan1> didrocks:  we are crosschecking the latest tabbar related changes to be sure
[07:16] <Mirv> didrocks: yes, it's in PPA just fine so robru and cyphermox have tested the correct version, I'm just wondering how it got there
[07:17] <didrocks> Mirv: let me look at jenkins, one sec
[07:17] <Mirv> (https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-unity/+archive/daily-build/+sourcepub/3667626/+listing-archive-extra)
[07:17] <didrocks> Mirv: latest failure: 7h57
[07:17] <didrocks> Mirv: so, sounds good, right?
[07:18] <didrocks> ah, the build job didn't start because of cu2d-sdk-head-1.1prepare-qtcreator-plugin-ubuntu failing
[07:18] <didrocks> not sure why ken, robru didn't work with the CI team/even didn't email on that :/
[07:18] <Mirv> didrocks: yeah, but if build job didn't start how did the ui-toolkit build get in the PPA?
[07:18] <Mirv> or was it prepare that already does that
[07:19] <didrocks> Mirv: prepare dput to the ppa
[07:19] <didrocks> the build just monitor
[07:19] <Mirv> right, then it all makes sense, and no problem
[07:19] <Mirv> (other than the qtcreator-plugin-ubuntu error)
[07:19] <didrocks> Mirv: ah I know
[07:20] <didrocks> Mirv: it's because ken launched a partial build
[07:20] <didrocks> and qtcreator-plugin-ubuntu was added in between
[07:20] <didrocks> Mirv: if you launch a qtcreator-plugin-ubuntu build only build, that will work
[07:20] <didrocks> Mirv: at least, we'll have desktop AP run, you're tracking/doing all that?
[07:20] <Mirv> didrocks: ok, I'll do that later
[07:21] <didrocks> ok :)
[07:21] <bzoltan1> didrocks, Mirv: the logs from that UITK failure seem to be bogus. At the line 257 in the file:///usr/lib/arm-linux-gnueabihf/qt5/qml/Ubuntu/Components/Themes/Ambiance/TabBarStyle.qml:257: TypeError: Cannot read property 'length' of undefined
[07:21] <didrocks> bzoltan1: someting changed in the theme? it's weird the robru told that it worked after a third try
[07:21] <bzoltan1> didrocks, Mirv: In the trunk there is no such property as "length" there is a function selectButton()
[07:21] <didrocks> bzoltan1: doesn't seem timing/grey testing ;)
[07:22] <didrocks> it should be more like black and white :p
[07:22] <Mirv> hmm or maybe now, since it seems I can't get the packaging changes out either without getting the prepare job successful
[07:22] <didrocks> bzoltan1: can you try to run the AP tests with the latest sdk, just to confirm everything is fine on your phone?
[07:22] <didrocks> Mirv: yeah, so build the plugin maybe…
[07:22] <bzoltan1> didrocks:  Sure
[07:22] <didrocks> Mirv: we'll have desktop AP job at least running ;)
[07:23] <Mirv> yeah, nice to see that too
[07:31] <Mirv> q-p-u was missing my changelog commit merger had halted earlier but approved later
[08:26] <mardy> Saviq: ping
[08:43] <darwin> can you install Ubuntu Touch in Android, to run on top or using the Android Linux kernel?
[08:45] <wilee-nilee> darwin, It is its own OS.
[08:45] <darwin> I know. You can install Debian on top of Android, or to use its kernel, though, and on #replicant they said ask about this if I want to try Ubuntu Touch instead of the Debian on F-Droid
[08:47] <darwin> I would rather try an Ubuntu than Replicant, because I think Ubuntu has more tools, and is more oriented towards computer science, at least a bit (like Debian), than something started originally just to run phones or tablets
[08:48] <darwin> and I have heard the interface is good... I do not really like Android so far, so maybe Replicant is similar
[08:48] <darwin> but I am not sure when I will root my tablet, because that would void the warranty (and I have a warranty for dropping it)
[08:49] <wilee-nilee> not sure on top of is the correct syntax is all
[08:53] <darwin> that is just what someone in #replicant said... i.e. emulation, or something like WINE, which is not emulation
[08:53] <darwin> actually they did not say that, but implied... I was going to edit that part out but was looking at another channel
[08:55] <wilee-nilee> darwin, People multiboot android devices, I am known to run several androids with images saved.
[08:55] <wilee-nilee> not really a true multiboot
[08:56] <darwin> I know, but my tablet's manufacturer says installing something (presumably other than an official Android upgrade) will void the warranty
[08:56] <darwin> that should not have all been in parentheses, or whatever
[08:57] <darwin> i.e. that was about installing another OS in the firmware... I am getting a bit tired I guess
[08:58] <wilee-nilee> darwin, I have a nexus 7 so no problem with that, but it lacks some hardware to really smoke.
[08:58] <darwin> I am not familiar with that expression
[08:59] <wilee-nilee> darwin, just a general abstract meaning run fast and furious.
[10:37] <om26er> on trusty-proposed my sim card is not working. It only works when I am connected to a wifi network.
[10:37] <om26er> using mako
[11:35] <oSoMoN> om26er, hey, how do I ensure unity8 is introspectable when I run tests on my device?
[11:37] <om26er> oSoMoN, there is get_proxy_object_for_existing_process() in autopilot you can use it with unity8 pid as argument. it won't return an exception if unity8 is running with testability
[11:40] <oSoMoN> om26er, ok, but I want to know how to run unity8 with testability
[11:40] <mardy> greyback: hi! Got a minute?
[11:40] <greyback> mardy: sure
[11:41] <om26er> oSoMoN, from unity8 import process_helpers and process_helpers.restart_unity_with_testability()
[11:41] <oSoMoN> om26er, doesn’t phablet-test-run have a magic switch to do that?
[11:41] <mardy> greyback: yesterday night I was trying my map application on the Nexus 4, and I noticed that many times when I was touching Ui elements near the edges of the screen, the taps were not recorded
[11:41] <om26er> oSoMoN, I have branch for that, its not merged yet.
[11:42] <oSoMoN> om26er, ok
[11:42] <mardy> greyback: it might just be a problem with my fingers, but I think it happened too many times to be just random
[11:42] <mardy> greyback: is it possible that something in the stack is eating up touch events which occur near the screen edges?
[11:44] <greyback> mardy: yep, it's something we're aware of. The edges of the screen have areas to recognise gestures. They're stealing the events from your application. We plan for shell to re-send those events to the app, if the gesture is not recognised
[11:47] <mardy> greyback: nice. Is there a bug for this?
[11:47] <mardy> greyback: or a blueprint item?
[11:48] <greyback> mardy: https://bugs.launchpad.net/unity8/+bug/1236290
[11:48] <mardy> greyback: thanks!
[11:50] <greyback> mardy: welcome
[11:51] <oSoMoN> om26er, I commented on https://code.launchpad.net/~om26er/gallery-app/camera-integration-test/+merge/189685
[11:52] <om26er> oSoMoN, thanks. will fix
[11:53] <oSoMoN> om26er, there’s something fishy with this test, I really don’t understand how it can possibly pass
[12:32] <timppa> Hi, When I updated from r22 to r23 my GSM stopped working, I need to enable wireless and join a network to gain GSM coverage. Has anyone else seen this problem?
[12:32] <timppa> I just updated to r24 and problem still exists
[12:32] <ogra_> timppa, om26er reported it above in the backlo
[12:32] <ogra_> g
[12:33] <timppa> ogra_: great!
[12:48] <rottinrob> morning y'all
[12:56] <cwayne_> kalikiana_, woo! translated click apps :D
[13:09] <timppa> ogra_: is there a bug open on this issue? I can open one if needed
[13:10] <ogra_> timppa, i guess taht would be good ... popey do you know if there is a bug ?
[13:10] <popey> pass, not seen one
[13:10] <popey> om26er: did you file one?
[13:10] <ogra_> timppa, then please do
[13:11] <timppa> ogra_: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu-touch-preview is this the correct place?
[13:11] <ogra_> no
[13:12] <ogra_> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+filebug
[13:12] <ogra_> (see channel topic)
[13:12] <timppa> ogra_: thanks
[13:17] <jdstrand> cwayne_: you asked if you can ask me questions about apparmor. sure, that's fine (though others from the security team should be able to help too)
[13:17] <jdstrand> cwayne_: what's up?
[13:18] <cwayne_> jdstrand, ah, i think it was about the templates in an app's appararmor hook
[13:18] <cwayne_> like for example for a webapp how necessary is template: 'ubuntu-webapp'
[13:21] <jdstrand> cwayne_: it is completely necessary for that example
[13:22] <jdstrand> cwayne_: the template is not specified, it defaults to ubuntu-sdk
[13:22] <jdstrand> s/the template/if the template/
[13:23] <jdstrand> cwayne_: see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SecurityTeam/Specifications/ApplicationConfinement/Manifest#Click for details
[13:24] <timppa> ogra_: that does not help very much on reporting bugs on touch
[13:25] <cwayne_> jdstrand, great, thanks!
[13:25] <cwayne_> bzoltan1, hey, so it seems for my template we would need that template line included..
[13:26] <ogra_> timppa, ?
[13:26] <ogra_> timppa, anything special about touch ?
[13:26] <cwayne_> plars, ping
[13:27] <timppa> ogra_: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+filebug redirects me to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs and ubuntu touch is not mentioned there
[13:27] <ogra_> timppa, it is either a network-manager or ofnono bug ...
[13:27] <om26er> popey, no, I did not. yet.
[13:27] <ogra_> timppa, ugh ... arent you an ubuntu member/dev ? it shouldnt redirect you ...
[13:28] <timppa> ogra_: no :)
[13:28] <timppa> ogra_: I've just done some apps to it that's all
[13:28] <cwayne_> just run ubuntu-bug packagename
[13:28] <ogra_> timppa, try this one: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+filebug/?no-redirect
[13:29] <ogra_> or what cwayne_ said
[13:51] <bzoltan1> cwayne_:  makes sense. Thanks for sorting it out
[13:52] <cwayne_> bzoltan1, happy to help.  so what's our next step? making the plugin able to pass which template to use?
[13:52] <cwayne_> i know you're -1 on me passing that file through my template (perfectly understandable btw :) )
[13:57] <plars> plars: hi
[13:57] <plars> *sigh*
[13:58] <plars> ENOCOFFEE
[13:58] <plars> cwayne_: hi
[14:00] <cwayne_> plars, heya, it seems that the touch test suite has been running a bunch of times without touch_custom (it looks like touch_custom was last run nov 7th?) any way to look into this?
[14:00] <cwayne_> dpm, ping
[14:00] <bzoltan1> cwayne_:  the  MR (https://code.launchpad.net/~cwayne18/qtcreator-plugin-ubuntu/webapp-template/+merge/195274) is approved. Thanks a lot
[14:00] <plars> cwayne_: I'll check it out
[14:01] <cwayne_> bzoltan1, hey, thanks!  let me know when it's in and I can write a quick blog post about it :)
[14:01] <plars> cwayne_: actually it ran again on the 15th (after the infrastructure came back up)
[14:02] <plars> cwayne_: because it looks like the latest image was from the 10th - now new images since then
[14:02] <bzoltan1> cwayne_:  let's make first that file created by the template ... next you file a bug that the security manifest should pre fill the template according to the project type.
[14:02] <plars> http://system-image.ubuntu.com/trusty-proposed-customized/mako/index.json
[14:02] <plars> *no
[14:03] <cwayne_> plars, there's a new touch_custom image whenever there's a new touch image though
[14:03] <dpm> hi cwayne_
[14:03] <plars> cwayne_: are we looking in the wrong place then?
[14:04] <cwayne_> plars, hm, maybe not..
[14:05] <cwayne_> bzoltan1, great, thanks!  i'll log the bug :)
[14:05] <cwayne_> dpm, hey, click apps are now translated :D
[14:06] <cwayne_> stgraber, hey, trusty-proposed-customized is built whenever there's a new sevilerow AND/OR whenever there's a new trusty-proposed, right?
[14:06] <stgraber> cwayne_: correct
[14:06] <stgraber> so long as all sources are reachable
[14:07] <stgraber> so you won't be getting new images until we get access to Jenkins again
[14:07] <cwayne_> stgraber, is something off then?  it seems the last trusty-proposed-customized has an ubuntu image from 20131107
[14:07] <cwayne_> ah
[14:07] <dpm> cwayne_, oh, I thought with the latest fixes you mentioned those which had translations appeared translated?
[14:07] <cwayne_> dpm, yeah, i mean that those fixes finally made it into the image
[14:07] <cwayne_> so a fresh image needs no modifications to have click apps work
[14:08] <cwayne_> stgraber, so those firewall rules haven't been fixed then?
[14:08] <dpm> cwayne_, ah, sorry, I read *now* as *not*. It's all clear now, thanks for the heads up! :-)
[14:09] <cwayne_> dpm, so next i will compile a list of missing strings int he click apps, then I'll ping you about the community-call-for-help again :)
[14:09] <dpm> awesome, thanks cwayne_!
[14:12] <stgraber> cwayne_: correct
[14:13] <stgraber> cwayne_: the config is up to date on the server side, so in theory within 5min of the firewall change, you'll have a new image
[14:14] <stgraber> cwayne_: did you end up setting up sevillerow-saucy and sevillerow-trusty? The config still refers to a single tarball for both at the moment
[14:14] <cwayne_> ev, any eta on that firewall fix?
[14:14] <cwayne_> stgraber, i did, i left sevilerow-watch as saucy and made a trusty one
[14:14] <cwayne_> let me get you the url
[14:14] <ev> cwayne_: it went through not long ago
[14:14] <ev> still having issues?
[14:15] <cwayne_> stgraber, http://s-jenkins.ubuntu-ci:8080/job/sevilerow-trusty/lastSuccessfulBuild/artifact/
[14:15] <cwayne_> ev, hm, still haven't seen a new image yet, how long ago?
[14:15] <ev> cwayne_: an hour
[14:15] <cwayne_> stgraber, ^
[14:21] <ogra_> timppa, can you point cyphermox to your bug ? he should be able to judge if thats an network-manager issue
[14:26] <cwayne_> stgraber, also any chance for an android rebuild today? :)
[14:26] <stgraber> cwayne_: yeah, I'll do that in a bit
[14:39] <cwayne_> stgraber, awesome, thanks for all the help today, let me know if there's anything you need from me :)
[14:39] <stgraber> cwayne_: uploaded
[14:39] <cwayne_> stgraber, the android rebuild?
[14:39] <stgraber> yeah
[14:40] <cwayne_> awesome, thanks!
[14:40] <cwayne_> stgraber, any idea why there hasn't been a new proposed-customized build if the firewall rules were fixed?
[14:41] <stgraber> cwayne_: because ev is lying
[14:41] <stgraber> nusakan still can't talk to s-jenkins
[14:42] <stgraber> maybe there's some other firewall along the way that also needs updating, it's always taken a while to get extra access added to nusakan
[14:42] <cwayne_> hmm, crap
[14:44] <cwayne_> ev, ^
[14:45] <MacSlow> nic-doffay, mumble/mic issues again?
[14:46] <MaoKue> Hi folks, anyone can help me to install ubuntu touch on my samsung 10.1 tablet
[14:46] <nic-doffay> MacSlow, yeah apparently
[14:46] <MacSlow> nic-doffay, np... just fill in your items in the minutes document for today
[14:47] <nic-doffay> MacSlow, will do
[14:47] <MacSlow> nic-doffay, thanks
[14:47] <MaoKue> anyone ??
[14:51] <rickspencer3> hi MaoKue so, it's vUDS right now, probably most folks attention is there
[14:51] <rickspencer3> MaoKue, http://summit.ubuntu.com/
[14:55] <smon> Hello
[14:57] <Hourd> hello
[14:59] <cwayne_> where's this 'join hangout' button?
[15:00] <daker> cwayne_: on the session page but the person in charge should past the link first
[15:07] <smon>  I was talking with a developer Canonical and I asked him where was the support of phone and 3G.
[15:08] <smon> He told me that it was ready for the Nexus and that forother device it's in the hands of the community.
[15:09] <smon> So I was wondering if the development had already begun for other devices, I am thinking in particular of Samsung Galaxy Note 2.
[15:09] <anders3408> mhall119: is onair :)
[15:09] <smon> Do you have some news about it ?
[15:10] <robru> Mirv, I built ubuntu-ui-toolkit yesterday. no idea why it would say the build job didn't run, because I ran it myself.
[15:10] <robru> Mirv, didrocks: also ken couldn't reproduce the 7 failures I saw, and then after a reboot it was fine. that's why we published it.
[15:10] <didrocks> robru: you didn't publish it, we did publish it this morning
[15:11] <didrocks> robru: but yeah, confirmed with bzoltan1
[15:11] <robru> didrocks, hmm, i hit publish. must not have gone through.
[15:11] <didrocks> robru: you should check the ui ;)
[15:11] <didrocks> robru: one of the component was failing to prepare
[15:11] <robru> didrocks, yeah, I meant to. got distracted testing other things.
[15:11] <didrocks> so nothing was going to monitor build, run AP tests
[15:11] <robru> didrocks, yeah, saw that failed prepare, wasn't sure how to fix it
[15:18] <bzoltan1> didrocks: what, who where??? me? why?
[15:18]  * bzoltan1 is reading logs
[15:26] <smon> Tiens didrocks, le monde est petit :P
[15:26] <didrocks> smon: salut! en effet ;)
[15:27] <smon> je crois que je me suis un peu perdu en cherchant des infos sur xda :D
[15:31] <ogra_> dholbach, do we have any session for "improving porting guide" or "make porting easier" ?
[15:31] <dholbach> I don't know
[15:42] <cwayne_> ev, any idea why nasuka can't get to s-jenkins still?
[15:48] <cwayne_> stgraber, hey, cjohnston is looking for some context re: whats wrong with our firewall rules
[15:49] <WebGen> hello guys does anyone want to give me any idea how to root kindle fire hdx so I can become contributing member for ubuntu? thanks in advance!
[15:49] <popey> WebGen: not seen any discussion of that device here
[15:49] <popey> WebGen: might be better looking at xda-developers?
[15:51] <WebGen> yep I know I assume so, but there has to be a general pattern on how to root android, I m looking for that pattern so I can apply specifics to my device? ;p
[15:51] <WebGen> Popeye I already looked but the specific root for my device doesn't exist yet, maybe I want
[15:51] <ogra_> there isnt really a general pattern ... sadly ...
[15:51] <WebGen> to contribute in rooting
[15:52] <ogra_> it depends how and where the vendor actually locked down the device
[15:52] <stgraber> cwayne_: nusakan can't talk to s-jenkins, I don't have any more detail than that
[15:52] <cwayne_> stgraber, fair enough, thanks
[15:52] <WebGen> damn I was afraid to hear that ogra_
[15:53] <didrocks> 16:51:33          ev | heads up: we're going to be discussing how the CI engine is going to be rearchitected, starting in 10
[15:53] <didrocks>                      | minutes. If you'd like a speaking slot in the hangout, let me know.
[15:53] <didrocks> if some people here are not in #ubuntu-devel ^
[15:53] <WebGen> well, thanks guys I'll come back here after I root device in couple months, I guess :/
[15:58] <ev> thanks didrocks
[16:38] <cwayne_> Saviq, would the next unity8 session after lunch be a good place to talk about convergence + shell background?
[16:42] <Saviq> cwayne_, we probably need a more design-oriented session
[16:43] <Saviq> cwayne_, I'm running that one, and I don't have answers, can provide more questions, though!
[16:47] <Saviq> cwayne_, I'm not sure this topic is explored enough to be a UDS session, really :/
[16:47] <Saviq> cwayne_, from design PoV I mean
[16:50] <jjohansen> jjohan
[17:11] <cwayne_> Saviq, fair enough
[17:11] <Saviq> cwayne_, we should definitely set up a chat with design folks, to see what they have in mind for this at all
[17:12] <cwayne_> Saviq, agreed.  I'm happy to join as well if/when that chat happens :)
[17:13] <randomcpp> can I use apt-get to easily update my phone?
[17:14] <Saviq> cwayne_, I thought you'd invite me ;)
[17:14] <Saviq> randomcpp, not if you want to use over-the-air upgrades
[17:14] <Saviq> randomcpp, and that's not supported, basically
[17:14] <Saviq> randomcpp, what's !easy about using the system settings app for that?
[17:15] <randomcpp> Saviq, I was used to apt-get everything :p
[17:15] <cwayne_> Saviq, hah, i'm happy to set it up then :)
[17:16] <Saviq> randomcpp, apt-get isn't suitable for phone use, it's too fragile
[17:17] <Saviq> randomcpp, we have a read-only rootfs to prevent breakage that you wouldn't be able to fix without connecting your phone to a laptop, just because your battery died
[17:17] <Saviq> randomcpp, but that precludes the usage of apt, but isn't the only reason
[17:19] <randomcpp> oh okok
[17:20] <randomcpp> is it normal that it keeps telling me that my phone has been updated for the last time on 1970-07-30 ? :p
[17:34] <pacificfils> When will the data spreadsheet be updated?
[17:46] <cwayne_> bfiller, ping
[17:48] <bfiller> cwayne_: pong
[17:48] <pacificfils> Question.
[17:48] <pacificfils> When will the Status sheet be updated?
[17:49] <cwayne_> bfiller, hey, any idea when the next planned release of the keyboard is?
[17:49] <bfiller> cwayne_: I need to request one, I can point you at a recent deb from jenks
[17:50] <cwayne_> bfiller, i'm more interested in getting it into the image :) from what i hear, pinyin works if you build from trunk, but not from what's in the image
[17:51] <bfiller> cwayne_: ack, I'll request it
[17:51] <cwayne_> bfiller, thanks, maybe i should also test it out first and make sure it does actually work..
[18:32] <cwayne_> stgraber, nasuka *should* be able to get to s-jenkins now
[18:38] <stgraber> cwayne_: nope, still doesn't work
[18:39] <cwayne_> stgraber, sigh ok, back to #is with me
[18:40] <cwayne_> stgraber, is it trying to reach s-jenkins.ubuntu-ci:8080?
[18:42] <stgraber> cdimage@nusakan:/srv/system-image.ubuntu.com$ telnet s-jenkins.ubuntu-ci 8080
[18:42] <stgraber> Trying <IP_ADDRESS>...
[18:42] <stgraber> telnet: Unable to connect to remote host: Connection timed out
[18:43] <cwayne_> stgraber, thanks
[18:47] <sergiusens> cwayne_, doing that for the first time last time took 2 weeks
[18:50] <pramodblog> anyone here?
[18:50] <pramodblog> need a little help while installing ubuntu on my galaxy nexus
[18:51] <pramodblog> All the things are done and now there is a msg saying ROM may flash stock recovery on boot. FIx? THIS CANNOT BE UNDONE.
[18:51] <pramodblog> What should i choose
[18:51] <pramodblog> yes or no?
[18:53] <pramodblog> SHould i say yes or no in "ROM may flash stock recovery on boot. FIx? THIS CANNOT BE UNDONE."
[18:55] <ardxxx> hi
[20:04] <cwayne_> stgraber, ok, NOW it should be actually fixed
[20:08] <stgraber> cwayne_: looks like it does indeed
[20:08] <cwayne_> phew
[20:09] <cwayne_> i was terrified for a sec that it was still broken :P
[20:09] <stgraber> cwayne_: and I see an image published 10min ago, so looks like everything started working again
[20:10] <cwayne_> stgraber, great! so will it pull from sevilerow-trusty now?
[20:10] <cwayne_> plars, so now i have images actually building again, should the smoketests just start picking up again?
[20:10] <stgraber> cwayne_: no, I didn't know -trusty and -saucy were actually setup now
[20:10] <stgraber> cwayne_: or is it just sevillerow and sevillerow-trusty?
[20:11] <cwayne_> stgraber, it's sevilerow-watch and sevilerow-trusty
[20:11] <cwayne_> http://s-jenkins.ubuntu-ci:8080/job/sevilerow-trusty/
[20:11] <plars> cwayne_: yes, as soon as they show up, jenkins should notice them and start the tests
[20:12] <cwayne_> stgraber, http://s-jenkins.ubuntu-ci:8080/job/sevilerow-trusty/
[20:12] <cwayne_> plars, thanks!
[20:18] <KHendrik> Is this the right place to ask qml questions?
[20:23] <timppa> cyphermox: Hi, I filed a bug on GSM signal issues earlier today
[20:24] <timppa> cyphermox: Do you need any additional info regarding the issue?
[20:24] <cyphermox> timppa: which bug?
[20:24] <timppa> cyphermox: just a sec, I'll check it
[20:25] <timppa> cyphermox: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ofono/+bug/1252737
[20:26] <stgraber> cwayne_: ok, will update the config in a minute
[20:26] <cwayne_> stgraber, sure thing
[20:26] <cyphermox> it actually would surprise me a lot that it really needs to be connected to wifi to get a gsm signal level... it's more likely that connecting to the wifi triggers an indicator update
[20:27] <cyphermox> timppa: what happens if you hit the bug and run nmcli dev?
[20:28] <timppa> cyphermox: I'll test it
[20:30] <timppa> cyphermox: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/6444702/
[20:34] <timppa> cyphermox: do you need anything else? I'm happy to help any way I can
[20:35] <cyphermox> yeah, we'll need a bunch more things but I'll write it down in the bug
[20:36] <timppa> cyphermox: ok
[20:43] <stgraber> cwayne_: config updated, doing a test run now
[20:43] <cwayne_> stgraber, thanks!
[20:44] <cwayne_> bfiller, hey, did you have a link for those keyboard debs?  i should probably validate that pinyin works before putting it on the landing pipeline..
[20:44] <bfiller> cwayne_: one sec
[20:45] <bfiller> cwayne_: this should be the latest http://jenkins.qa.ubuntu.com/job/ubuntu-keyboard-trusty-armhf-ci/72/artifact/work/output/*zip*/output.zip
[20:45] <bfiller> cwayne_: from this MR https://code.launchpad.net/~xnox/ubuntu-keyboard/libpinyin4/+merge/193859
[20:46] <cwayne_> bfiller, thanks
[20:46] <cwayne_> sfeole, ^
[20:46] <bfiller> cwayne_: np
[20:46] <cwayne_> bfiller, want me to add to the landing asks once we test?
[20:47] <bfiller> cwayne_: sure
[20:47] <cwayne_> bfiller, cool, thanks
[20:47] <cwayne_> this will make demoing chinese much better
[20:49] <KHendrik>  I have a value of type date (YYYY-MM-DD) in a ListModel which I display in a ListView I want to add sections per month is this possible?
[20:56] <sfeole> thanks cwayne_ & bfiller
[20:56] <cwayne_> sfeole, let me know when you test it so ic an add it to the landing plan pls
[20:56] <sfeole> ack
[20:58] <timppa> cyphermox: Did you update the bug? Do I need to answer to the questions on the bug?
[20:59] <cyphermox> yes, please
[20:59] <cyphermox> Tony is going to look into it
[21:00] <timppa> cyphermox: ok, do you need have the logs when the "bug" is on
[21:00] <timppa> cyphermox: but I seriously doubt that that's only a indicator bug.
[21:01] <stgraber> cwayne_: done, can you confirm that the output is reasonable?
[21:02] <cyphermox> timppa: yeah, when the bug is "on" and after you connect to wifi
[21:02] <cwayne_> stgraber, sure
[21:02] <timppa> cyphermox: coming right up
[21:04] <timppa> cyphermox: /var/log/syslog contains insane amount of rows. Need everything?
[21:04] <cyphermox> yes, this is particularly important
[21:11] <cwayne_> stgraber, the output of index.json is good, and it installs, so i'd say its working :) thanks for all the help :)
[21:17] <stgraber> cwayne_: good to hear! np
[21:25] <timppa> cyphermox: I've updated the bug
[22:02] <randomcpp> does anyone know how to take screenshot?
[22:06] <randomcpp> ok solved
[22:38] <cwayne_> xnox, ping
[22:38] <xnox> cwayne_: hi.
[22:39] <cwayne_> xnox, hi, i'm trying to test out the latest ubuntu-keyboard, and i see there's now a dependency on libpinyin4, but i can't seem to find a package for it.. any idea?
[22:40] <xnox> cwayne_: libpinyin4 is in trusty-proposed.
[22:40] <xnox> cwayne_: the reason why it hasn't migrated to trusty yet, is because that would make ubuntu-keyboard uninstallable.
[22:40] <xnox> cwayne_: hence i ported ubuntu-keyboard to libpinyin4 api.
[22:41] <xnox> cwayne_: it has been extensively tested at merge proposal time with libpinyin4 installed (following a rather long google doc test procedure)
[22:41] <cwayne_> xnox, ah, ok
[22:41] <cwayne_> thanks for the clarification
[22:42] <xnox> cwayne_: you can download libpinyin4 armhf deb from this URL https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libpinyin/0.9.93+repack1-1/+build/5139915/+files/libpinyin4_0.9.93%2Brepack1-1_armhf.deb
[22:42] <cwayne_> xnox, thanks
[22:43] <xnox> cwayne_: alternatively you can add "trusty-proposed" to apt sources, and just install missing dependencies with $ sudo apt-get install -f
[22:43] <xnox> after dpkg -i *.deb says that there are broken dependencies.
[22:43] <cwayne_> yep
[22:44] <xnox> cwayne_: good night! =)
[23:00] <cwayne_> what does system-settings use to set the locale?
[23:22] <kdub> is there a quick way to expand the size root partition?


[06:39] <Guest55744> hello
[06:40] <valorie> hello, how can we help?
[06:40] <Guest55744> am unable to install java
[06:41] <valorie> !info java
[06:42] <valorie> ah, I think you need the package `kubuntu-restricted-extras`
[06:43] <valorie> Guest55744: ^
[06:44] <valorie> if that doesn't do it, you'll need to describe what you need more precisely
[08:11] <rydhwan> hello all
[08:11] <rydhwan> kio-extras : Depends: kio-extras-data (= 4:5.1.95-0ubuntu1) but 4:5.1.2-0ubuntu1 is installed
[08:12] <rydhwan> how downgrade ?
[08:25] <valorie> rydhwan: I think that's been fixed
[08:25] <valorie> can you just uninstall kio-extras for now?
[08:25] <rydhwan> how
[08:26] <valorie> however you usually install and uninstall
[08:26] <valorie> muon or apt
[08:26] <valorie> whatever you prefer
[08:26] <valorie> if not, sit tight until the fix gets to you
[08:28] <rydhwan> apt-get remove kio-extras
[08:28] <rydhwan> plasma-workspace : Depends: kio-extras but it is not going to be installed
[08:29] <rydhwan> Unmet dependencies. Try 'apt-get -f install' with no packages (or specify a solution).
[08:29] <valorie> I wouldn't do -f
[08:29] <valorie> I would just wait, if you can
[08:30] <rydhwan> ok thanks
[08:31] <valorie> if you can't wait, rydhwan, it was discussed in the past couple of days in #kubuntu-devel which is logged
[08:32] <valorie> you can find those logs on the web
[08:32] <valorie> !logs
[08:32] <rydhwan> nice
[08:59] <rydhwan> http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2015/01/15/%23kubuntu-devel.html    i dont understand
[09:04] <valorie> rydhwan: as I said, being worked on, but not fixed yet
[09:05] <valorie> when it is fixed, apt will properly install for you
[09:05] <valorie> what version of kubuntu are you runnin?
[09:05] <valorie> g
[09:07] <rydhwan> 15.04
[09:08] <valorie> rydhwan: that is alpha software
[09:08] <valorie> you are helping us test, right?
[09:08] <rydhwan> yes
[09:08] <valorie> so you should be in #kubuntu-devel anyway
[09:08] <valorie> and on the devel list
[09:08] <valorie> and filing bugs
[09:08] <valorie> :-)
[09:08]  * valorie is not yet brave enough to upgrade
[09:09] <rydhwan> :)
[09:09] <rydhwan> im cascador
[09:09] <valorie> cascador?
[09:09]  * valorie googles
[09:11] <valorie> hmmm, google seems to say that it is romanian for stunt
[09:12] <valorie> I'm guessing tester
[09:12] <valorie> there is an increasingly active kubuntu romanian team, by the way
[09:25] <malber> test
[10:06] <andybrine> good morning
[10:09] <valorie> !ppa-purge
[10:09] <JunkHunk> !ppa-purge
[10:10] <valorie> did you see that?
[10:10] <valorie> « sudo ppa-purge ppa:<repository-name>/<subdirectory> » – For more information, see http://www.webupd8.org/2009/12/remove-ppa-repositories-via-command.html
[10:10] <valorie> you have to install it though
[10:10] <JunkHunk> yep reading
[10:11] <JunkHunk> cool
[10:11] <JunkHunk> but...
[10:11] <JunkHunk> subdirectory?
[10:11] <JunkHunk> what should I put there?
[10:12] <JunkHunk> I dont know where it got instaled
[10:15] <JunkHunk> and for this: sudo ppa-purge ppa:awn-testing/ppa it says it cant find the repo (I manually deleted from repositories list)
[10:15] <lordievader> Good morning.
[10:16] <JunkHunk> may the force be with you
[11:20] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[14:08] <jubo2> newb question
[14:08] <jubo2> how do I unzip a .zip file
[14:08] <jubo2> I know about 'tar xvzf filename.tar.gz' but I dunno about these Windows originating .zip files
[14:10] <grahamperrin> Hi, I have an old snow iMac, PowerMac2,2. 1 GB memory. Which old Linux distro is likely to run best on this old Mac? I know that Kubuntu will run but can't recall whether there were ...
[14:10] <grahamperrin> PowerPC distros for  Xubuntu or Lubuntu
[14:16] <BluesKaj> jubo2, install unp ,. it can extract practically any type of compressed file
[14:16] <lordievader> jubo2: unzip <file>
[14:17] <lordievader> That will extract it to pwd.
[14:17] <lordievader> cwd*
[14:18] <jubo2> yeah extracting to pwd would be a odd
[14:20] <BluesKaj> grahamperrin, does the mac have an intel cpu?
[14:24] <BluesKaj> grahamperrin, never mind, macs are uncharted territory for me
[14:25] <grahamperrin> Not Intel)
[14:26] <grahamperrin> Meantime I'm booted from Kubuntu 7.04 live CD installing 7.04 desktop
[14:29] <BluesKaj> 7.04 is pretty old and no longer supported 7 is for the year and 04 is for the month it was released
[14:30] <BluesKaj> grahamperrin,^
[14:44] <grahamperrin> BluesKaj: thanks. For what I have in mind I'm not concerned about the age or support, just wondering which distro is likely to be best suited
[14:45] <grahamperrin> not necessarily best performing
[14:47] <BluesKaj> grahamperrin, ok, how's the install going? I saw that ubuntu 6.06 is able to run on power mac 2.2
[14:47] <grahamperrin> 90% complete
[14:48] <grahamperrin> I expect that it'll be not easy to control brightness
[14:48] <BluesKaj> grahamperrin, and the installer accepted your location, name and pw etc ?
[14:49] <BluesKaj> ubuntu has a brightness control , software driven in the power/battery settings
[14:49] <grahamperrin> BluesKaj: oh yeah, I have installed old Linux distros on Macs a few times in the past. But not recently.
[14:50] <grahamperrin> BluesKaj: thanks, I'll look out for that
[14:50] <BluesKaj> ok grahamperrin that's cool ..I looked for more recent releases that might mrun opn your machine , but not much info available
[14:51] <BluesKaj> 'scuse the typos
[14:51] <grahamperrin> np
[14:52] <grahamperrin> no power setting in the old live CD here, to be honest I didn't expect it in live mode
[14:53] <BluesKaj> yeah, probly not on the live cd
[14:53] <thepapaz> hi
[14:53] <BluesKaj> hi thepapaz
[14:54] <thepapaz> türksen merhaba yaz
[14:55] <thepapaz> turgay
[14:55] <BluesKaj> !tr | thepapaz
[14:57] <turgay> ?
[14:59] <grahamperrin> restart time ...
[15:00] <BluesKaj> turgay, do you have a kubuntu related question?
[15:00] <BluesKaj> grahamperrin, ok , good luck :)
[15:02] <BluesKaj> being invaded by turks :)
[15:12] <turgay> BluesKaj:  i do not question
[15:13] <turgay> no stress, no panic  :)
[15:13] <BluesKaj> turgay, no issues/problems with kubuntu then?
[18:22] <tash> Hi!
[18:23] <monkeyjuice> lo
[18:23] <tash> :D
[18:23] <tash> I haven't been on IRC for 20+ years, so can you help me with the etiquette here? :)
[18:24] <monkeyjuice> this is kubuntu support do you have a problem. or do you want #kubuntu-offtopic
[18:25] <tash> No , def #Kubuntu help - I'm trying to figure out transitions and effects in KDENLive, and need a reco for a resource. Can you help?
[18:25] <BluesKaj_> tash, reasonable conduct
[18:25] <monkeyjuice> hey BluesKaj_
[18:25] <tash> Thanks BluesKaj_ :)
[18:26] <BluesKaj_> hey monkeyjuice
[18:30] <monkeyjuice> my upgrade to 14.10 the nvidia drivers are messed up its acting like there are two installs and locking up how do purge and reinstall ., will that help?
[18:35] <BluesKaj_> monkeyjuice, does grub show 2 ubuntus, for example I have 15.04 as Ubuntu and 14.10 as Ubuntu 14.10
[18:36] <monkeyjuice> no just one , but driver manager shows two sets of the same drivers
[18:37] <monkeyjuice> im running nouveau or it locks up
[18:41] <BluesKaj_> shows 2 nvidia-331 drivers here, one recommended and the other is nvidia-331-updates as well as the 304 drivers as optional\
[18:42] <monkeyjuice> ya cant run them it will lock screen after a few minutes have to reboot and set to noubeau . and drivers manager seems to be messed up
[18:42] <BluesKaj_> monkeyjuice, that's in the system settings>driver manager
[18:42] <monkeyjuice> yep
[18:43] <monkeyjuice> was thinking of removing the nvidea drivers
[18:43] <monkeyjuice> and see
[18:44] <BluesKaj_> hmm, I presume you've updated and upgraded and dist-upgraded since the install
[18:44] <monkeyjuice> oh ya
[18:44] <monkeyjuice> or im going to do fresh install and start over.
[18:46] <BluesKaj_> monkeyjuice, do you have a / and /home partition ?
[18:46] <monkeyjuice> no but im backed up
[18:47] <monkeyjuice> unless my external hd like yours  dies ;(
[18:47] <BluesKaj_> recommend you set them up with gparted then install to / and set a mountpoint for /home
[18:48] <monkeyjuice> on a fresh install?
[18:49] <BluesKaj_> yeah, i managed to rescuemostly everything from 2 different computers and copied then over to a new external
[18:49] <BluesKaj_> monkeyjuice, yes fresh
[18:49] <monkeyjuice> ok  hmmm upgrade did work on my laptop ;(
[18:50] <monkeyjuice> but its been acting funny on the video drivers
[18:51] <BluesKaj_> so it's the laptop with nvidia
[18:51] <BluesKaj_> ?
[18:51] <monkeyjuice> yep
[18:52] <monkeyjuice> ok reload in the morning over coffee it is ;)
[18:54] <BluesKaj_> I had to eventually reinstall to / on 14.10 after upgrading from 14.04, there were alot of problems
[20:14] <|||> hey guys, i installed 14.10 via dist-upgrade and now booting with "splash" is broken.. with "nosplash" i get the intended result, but "splash" gives me the graphical screen with the cryptsetup passphrase prompt I expect, but typing leads to characters being echoed to the screen instead of supplying the passphrase .. typing it out and pressing enter does nothing. pressing insert to switch to non-graphical mode does nothing.. splash is broken. anyone else run into
[20:14] <|||>  this?
[20:22] <bennypr0fane> hello, what is the default tool for mounting a webdav share in kubuntu 14.04?
[20:49] <andy123> bennypr0fane: davfs2 I guess ?
[20:55] <andy123> put it in fstab, if the webdav location does not change
[20:59] <apb1963> somehow - and I don't remember doing it - kubuntu backports ppa got added to my system.  If I do a ppa purge, am I going to hose my system?  I can't afford to hose my system.
[21:01] <soee> ppa purge will compare packages from ppa you want to purge with current archive, and just install old versions, not the one from backports
[21:03] <apb1963> The following packages have been kept back:
[21:03] <apb1963>   kde-runtime-data khelpcenter4 plasma-scriptengine-javascript
[21:03] <apb1963> I'm trying to clean this up... I don't know how that ppa ended up on my system.
[21:03] <apb1963> or if it's something I might want to keep?
[21:03] <soee> what version are you running ?
[21:04] <soee> anyway backports hsould be pretty safe to use
[21:04] <apb1963> http://paste.ubuntu.com/9779147/
[21:05] <apb1963> backports I'm told by #ubuntu are unsupported
[21:05] <apb1963> actually it's in the sources.list file itself... "unsupported"
[21:05] <soee> can you pastebin teh output of dist-upgrade ?
[21:05] <apb1963> yes
[21:06] <apb1963> http://paste.ubuntu.com/9779156/
[21:10] <apb1963> soee: any thoughts?
[21:11] <soee> apb1963: add this option when doing dist-upgrade: -o debug::pkgproblemresolver=true
[21:11] <soee> and pastebin again
[21:14] <apb1963> soee: http://paste.ubuntu.com/9779201/
[21:17] <soee> apb1963: and this is only with backports enabled ?
[21:18] <apb1963> I haven't tried it without backports enabled... it's a dir in /etc/apt soee
[21:19] <soee> apb1963: try to purge bckports
[21:20] <soee> shouldn't harm your system
[21:21] <apb1963> soee: this one?  sudo ppa-purge ppa:repository-name/subdirectory
[21:22] <soee> sudo ppa-purge ppa:kubuntu-ppa/backports
[21:23] <apb1963> ty
[21:24] <apb1963> sudo: ppa-purge: command not found
[21:24] <apb1963> E: Unable to locate package ppa-purge
[21:24] <lordievader> !info ppa-purge
[21:24] <lordievader> !info ppapurge
[21:25] <lordievader> apb1963: What version of Kubuntu do you run?
[21:26] <apb1963> lordievader: I think i'm just running kde-desktop
[21:27] <apb1963> ubuntu 14.04
[21:29] <apb1963> or rather plasma-desktop
[21:30] <apb1963> soee: so enable universe and ppa-purge ?
[21:30] <apb1963> +install
[21:38] <lordievader> !info ppa-purge trusty
[21:39] <lordievader> apb1963: Yes.
[23:57] <|||> hey guys, i installed 14.10 via dist-upgrade and now booting with "splash" is broken.. with "nosplash" i get the intended result, but "splash" gives me the graphical screen with the cryptsetup passphrase prompt I expect, but typing leads to characters being echoed to the screen instead of supplying the passphrase .. typing it out and pressing enter does nothing. pressing insert to switch to non-graphical mode does nothing.. splash is broken. anyone else run into
[23:57] <|||>  this?