[06:16] <reisio> yap: although ordinary Ubuntu, using GNOME, might use ~/.gnome-something
[06:16] <Chaosweaver> hmm, ok whats the diff between "man command" and "command --help"
[06:16] <yap> reisio, thx will look
[06:17] <reisio> Chaosweaver: man command opens the man(ual) page for that command
[06:17] <Dr_Willis> Chaosweaver:  one shows the man page.. other is the programs built in help
[06:17] <reisio> Chaosweaver: command --help runs the command, and if that executable was given a help output, it outputs that
[06:17] <Dr_Willis> not all commands have good --help
[06:17] <mojtaba> reisio: What is the latest drivers of the ATI at the moment? I mean it is for which models? or which models still does not have linux driver?
[06:17] <reisio> and not all have good man pages :)
[06:17] <reisio> heheh
[06:17] <Dr_Willis> dir --help seems rathe verbose
[06:17] <reisio> also not all of them have --help, -help, or -h
[06:17] <reisio> sometimes only one or two
[06:17] <Dr_Willis> sometimes the -h and man page show the same text ;)
[06:18] <reisio> indeed
[06:18] <reisio> some programmers don't put much thought into it :p
[06:18] <Dr_Willis> or you get totally useless help that says 'use -h for help' ;P
[06:18] <Chaosweaver> ./facepalm
[06:18] <reisio> there's also info instead of man, which almost nobody cares about
[06:18] <reisio> Dr_Willis: yeah :p
[06:18] <reisio> but for the most part
[06:19] <reisio> -h is generally intended to be more concise
[06:19] <reisio> straight to the point
[06:19] <reisio> and man comprehensive
[06:19] <Dr_Willis> i love it wheni look at 'sshfs --help' and  the info i want is at the top of the 20 pages of text it prints out
[06:19] <reisio> yeah...
[06:19] <Chaosweaver> now i do know what u mean by that
[06:19] <Dr_Willis> sshfs --help | less
[06:19] <reisio> if it's more than 24 rows, I say the author has failed :p
[06:19] <Dr_Willis> ;) is handty trick
[06:19] <phix> Yeah that is the main issues with linux / unix application, the level of documentation available, in particular, for end users.
[06:19] <reisio> more than 23, really :p
[06:20] <reisio> phix: hrmm?
[06:20] <keplr> Ubuntu man page for ftp is from BSD.
[06:20] <Chaosweaver> that or the author had a 40'' wide lcd pivoted vertically when they wrote the help info
[06:20]  * reisio shrugs
[06:20] <reisio> it's nice they type up the help at all, heh
[06:20] <reisio> ffmpeg had a useless man page for ages
[06:20] <Dr_Willis> at least they dont expect you to be viewing the 'help docs' in notepad.exe with word wrap turned onor off. ;P
[06:20] <reisio> and a half useful but massively verbose -h
[06:20] <phix> reisio: yeah you need to have a computer science degree and a good understanding of Linux to decipher the man files usually, and alot do not include examples.
[06:21] <reisio> phix: nonsense
[06:21] <Dr_Willis> man ffmpeg = 4732 lines
[06:21] <Dr_Willis> ;P
[06:21] <reisio> you need to have a decent grasp of English
[06:21] <phix> reisio: No point in creating an application if no one can use it
[06:21] <Dr_Willis> oh yea..dont forget that --help and -h are not always the same. ;P
[06:21] <reisio> well it's true there's no point worrying about people who can't read
[06:21] <aeon-ltd> i find that wikis are a lot more quick to the point
[06:21] <reisio> right, wiki's aren't usually meant to be exhaustive, man pages are
[06:21] <reisio> that's why raptor gebus invented search
[06:22] <phix> reisio: Incorrect, alot of man files require knowing the subject material first
[06:22] <reisio> phix: you want to use something without knowing anything about it?
[06:22] <Chaosweaver> god this is tempting me to just go on w/ win8 powershell.  at least i will already be able to recogize+ignore the repackaged redundancy and learn its utility instead of starting from scratch.  yes im depressed
[06:22] <reisio> magic button that reads your mind?
[06:22] <reisio> no OS does that :p
[06:22] <joakimk> Using Ubuntu 12.04 on a Dell laptop. Every time I boot up, I connect to wireless but with no internet access. I have to toggle the wifi hardware switch, then reconnect to wifi which only then actually gets net access... Any idea why this happens?
[06:23] <reisio> Chaosweaver: http://classicshell.sf.net/
[06:23] <reisio> Chaosweaver: but using Windows is a mistake e:p
[06:23] <phix> reisio: well that is the purpose of documentation, to explain how to use it, when and when not to and provide examples, not all man files are properly written
[06:23] <reisio> phix: indeed not, but most are :)
[06:24] <phix> Alot of man file require assumed knowlegde
[06:24] <phix> knowledge*
[06:24] <reisio> for example?
[06:24] <Chaosweaver> reisio, trust me.  i have witnessed the godliness of linux and i have much respect for it.  im just a hc gamer and beyond blizzard games, i have no option other than windows
[06:25] <phix> well, the assumption you even know what the man file is called :P  or where man files live for starters
[06:25] <Chaosweaver> if i worked w/ office apps and dev only, i would only know penguin
[06:25] <reisio> Chaosweaver: nah, many of them run via Wine, some purportedly better
[06:25] <phix> Of course there is apropos but still
[06:25] <reisio> so you don't have an example
[06:26] <Chaosweaver> thats what i mean, blizz stuff runs grate on wine but i dont like having to resort to opengl when i want dx11 prettiness
[06:26] <reisio> Chaosweaver: they appear differently?
[06:26] <Chaosweaver> and and and, as a side note, im still mad that 3dfx didnt support 32bit color on their voodoo2k+ series and died b/c of it
[06:26] <Chaosweaver> yes
[06:26] <reisio> ohwell :p
[06:27] <reisio> a number of semi-sane people use dual installations of Windows for gaming and Unix for seriousness
[06:27] <reisio> with modern hardware you can theoretically give a virtual machine full hardware access
[06:27] <Chaosweaver> but im a serious gamer
[06:27] <reisio> and all this will become academic
[06:27] <reisio> Chaosweaver: seriousness that isn't to do with gaming, then :p
[06:27] <Dr_Willis> problem with that - is whenyou boot to windows after NOT booting to windows for 6 mo.. and want to play a game.. theres always like 12+ hrs of Updates to download and 3+ reboots it seems...
[06:27] <Dr_Willis> ;)
[06:27] <Chaosweaver> lol
[06:28] <Chaosweaver> yes thats true
[06:28] <aeon-ltd> oh the day when people start saying "why the hell are you using dual boot?"
[06:28] <Dr_Willis> 'serious gamer'  -  wow. would be a 'serious drinker' be  good thing? :) how about a 'serious daytime tv soap opera watcher' ;)
[06:28] <reisio> aeon-ltd: come and gone :p
[06:29] <Chaosweaver> just like the fact that i havent been on irc since 2001 in my glory days of warez and tonite irc is as bawse as it ever ways
[06:29] <Chaosweaver> actually i just finished 3 beers
[06:29] <occ> chaos is a ladder
[06:29] <varunendra> joakimk, please follow this post : http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=12350385 and use the "Alternate wireless_script" at the bottom of the post.
[06:29] <Chaosweaver> speaking of ladders, anyone remember Case's Ladder?  kali.net?
[06:30] <ikonia> Chaosweaver: please try to stick to the ubuntu support discusion topic in this channel.
[06:31] <Chaosweaver> yes ikonia.  well dr willis + reisio: u guys have been completely awesome.  im going to continue my journey w/ fedora and perhaps we will speak again
[06:31] <Chaosweaver> thank you guys VERY much
[06:31] <varunendra> joakimk, this is the script that you have to use with the instructions in the above post : http://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/s/qjc87hzk1z5x6z0/wireless_script
[06:32] <occ> jacobs ladder
[06:33] <joakimk> varunendra: ok.. thanks! I'll have a closer look at the forum post. The script seems rather comprehensive, though... Is it a run-once fix, or something to run every day?
[06:33] <varunendra> joakimk, it will only generate a detailed report. We can get many clues from it.
[06:33] <reisio> Chaosweaver: adios
[06:33] <rigved> hi everyone. my ubuntu one sync has stopped working. it is stuck on status "LOCAL_RESCAN". can someone help?
[06:33] <joakimk> varunendra: oh, I see!
[06:34] <varunendra> joakimk, use pastebin to post the report it generates.
[06:34] <rigved> i am running 12.04
[06:34] <reisio> rigved: ordinarily I'd say kill the process and try again
[06:34] <keplr> Isn't 12.04 the LTS? When does support end for that?
[06:34] <grendal-prime> kinda a werid one.. grub-pc borked on upgrade..so i removed it like aptitude suggested.
[06:35] <grendal-prime> now i reinstall it and it asks where do you want to put it..on vda or vda1
[06:35] <Dr_Willis> aptitude?  thats odd
[06:35] <rigved> reisio: i have tried "u1sdtool --quit" and "u1sdtool --connect". but still no luck. it gets stuck again on the "local_rescan".
[06:35] <Dr_Willis> you dould want it on the mbr of the drive you are booting grendal-prime
[06:35] <Dr_Willis> ie:  sda   NOT sda1
[06:35] <reisio> rigved: does that actually stop the process?
[06:36] <grendal-prime> thats what i thought...
[06:36] <grendal-prime> but i wanted to make sure.
[06:36] <reisio> grendal-prime: you can check where it is already
[06:36] <reisio> with...
[06:36] <grendal-prime> it says i can put it on both but then it would have to impliment some sort of blocking...thing.
[06:36] <rigved> reisio: it says syncdaemon stoppped when i run it, so i am assuming that it does. should i try actually killing the process?
[06:36] <turbulence> hey there
[06:37] <grendal-prime> reisio...ya i was trying to do that be getting nowhwere
[06:37] <turbulence> i had a question about ubuntu linux
[06:37] <turbulence> is anybody here?
[06:37] <grendal-prime> only 1600 of us dude
[06:37] <reisio> grendal-prime: dd if=/dev/sda count=1 bs=512 | file -
[06:37] <reisio> for example
[06:37] <turbulence> what's the difference between a baby and an apple?      You don't CUM in an apple before you EAT IT!
[06:37] <FloodBot1> turbulence: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:37] <turbulence> looooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooool
[06:37] <reisio> rigved: you should try confirming it has stopped, with pgrep -l or ps aux | grep foo
[06:37] <reisio> rigved: if it hasn't, yes kill it
[06:38] <rigved> reisio: ok. checking.
[06:38] <grendal-prime> reisio, was that for me?
[06:38] <joakimk> varunendra: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6082324/
[06:38] <reisio> grendal-prime: the bit preceded by your nick?
[06:38] <grendal-prime> how is that supposed to check where grub is installed
[06:38] <joakimk> varunendra: :)
[06:39] <reisio> grendal-prime: if it says grand unified bootloader, then grub is there
[06:39] <reisio> grendal-prime: though for thoroughness you should check sda and sda1 both, because it's not impossible for it to be in both places
[06:39] <varunendra> joakimk, that has been a problematic driver lately (the one you have). Taking a close look..
[06:39] <reisio> or vda/1, as required
[06:39] <grendal-prime> i dont put anything after the file -  ...dd  like the partion copying prog?
[06:40] <reisio> grendal-prime: - means stdin (for programs stupid enough to not just accept stdin by default)
[06:40] <joakimk> varunendra: iwlwifi?
[06:40] <reisio> grendal-prime: yup, it's quite safe without using of=
[06:40]  * Alex_Murphy is away: we still being the digital resistance, hard as rock and cold as ice!
[06:40] <reisio> and also with using of=, if you're simply careful ;)
[06:41] <varunendra> joakimk, yes. But how did you run the script? With 'sh' ? It is incomplete. Please run it without sh (or with bash if you have to)
[06:41] <rigved> reisio: yes, "u1sdtool --quit" does stop the syncdaemon. checked using "ps aux | grep ubuntuone". then i ran "u1sdtool --connect" and the syncdaemon stated working again.
[06:41]  * Alex_Murphy is back (gone 00:00:56)
[06:41] <grendal-prime> says it copied something
[06:41] <reisio> rigved: and ubuntuone would actually return it if it were running?
[06:41] <rigved> reisio: but the syncing is still not working
[06:42] <grendal-prime> i dont see any mention of grub though
[06:42] <joakimk> varunendra: oh, sorry :) I did run it with sh.
[06:42] <reisio> grendal-prime: try the other possible devices/partitions, then
[06:42] <varunendra> joakimk, I know. We noticed that issue with sh ;)
[06:42] <grendal-prime> well this is what i got.
[06:42] <grendal-prime> dev/stdin: x86 boot sector; partition 1: ID=0x83, active, starthead 32, startsector 2048, 15955968 sectors; partition 2: ID=0x5, starthead 119, startsector 15960062, 815106 sectors, code offset 0x63
[06:43] <joakimk> varunendra: I now got a tar.gz archive... What do I do then?
[06:43] <grendal-prime> if i try vda1 i dont get that..just couple...thanks
[06:43] <reisio> grendal-prime: pretty sure it'll say grand unified bootloader if you're using grub and grub is there
[06:43] <Dr_Willis> 'vda1' ? is that a typo? or some really weird device
[06:43] <varunendra> joakimk, well.. extract the txt file from it then... then paste its contents.
[06:43] <grendal-prime> virtual drive
[06:43] <reisio> used for lvm, isn't it?
[06:43] <reisio> I don't keep track
[06:43] <Dr_Willis> and what sort of system is this on?
[06:43] <rigved> reisio: i can see this error message in the logs: ubuntuone.SyncDaemon.local_rescan - ERROR - in the scan: <type 'exceptions.KeyError'>
[06:44] <joakimk> varunendra: but the script says the file is larger than allowed for Ubuntu Forums
[06:44] <grendal-prime> kvm guest
[06:44] <reisio> rigved: then you have something to search for
[06:44] <grendal-prime> its a 10.04 web server im upgrading.
[06:44] <varunendra> joakimk, yes, for UF. But I think pastebin should be able to handle the size.
[06:45] <joakimk> varunendra: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6082337/
[06:46]  * Alex_Murphy is away: AFK
[06:47] <varunendra> joakimk, while I'm taking a look, please also post the output of - "grep -iR [0-9a-z] /sys/module/iwlwifi/parameters"
[06:48] <joakimk> varunendra: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6082343/ :-)
[06:50] <Dr_Willis> Someone care to check on somthing ith handbreak?  In windows im SURE i can drag/drop a folder onto the Handbreak 'source' button/area  and it loads the whole directory. but I cant repeate this  on linux/ubuntu - anyone else noticed this annoying  issue? know of an easier way to get handbreak to load all teh files in a directory? ;)
[06:51] <Dr_Willis> there we go.. the file load let me do it. ;) but i sware this was not working for me either last week.
[06:51] <reisio> Dr_Willis: find dir/ -type f -exec ffmpeg...
[06:52] <Dr_Willis> reisio:  but im using handbreak. :)   not fighting with ffmpeg for the wifes videos.
[06:52] <varunendra> joakimk, the dmesg part of your output is interesting, but I'm not good enough to interpret it all. Does the connection speed remain good once you are connected? Do you get the N-channel speeds?
[06:52] <Adm_less> Anybody knows why the quassel display connect time out
[06:52] <reisio> Dr_Willis: fighting?
[06:53] <Dr_Willis> ive definatly been fighting with ffmpeg and winff over the last few months
[06:53] <joakimk> varunendra: oh... well, I think the remains ok. Not sure what the N-channel speeds would mean
[06:53] <rigved> reisio: i did search online for this error message but could not find anything that would help me solve the issue.
[06:53] <Dr_Willis> handbreak also has an 'animation' preset that seems to make much smaller encoded videos for my anime fix. ;P
[06:54] <varunendra> joakimk, the average throughput being above 54Mbps - means you get the benefit of N-channel
[06:54] <rigved> reisio: i have raised a ticket with ubuntu one support. let's see if that helps. otherwise will raise a bug report.
[06:54] <reisio> Dr_Willis: I'm sure that preset is in a plain text file, and could come after 'ffmpeg ' :p
[06:54] <reisio> Dr_Willis: what all are you trying to accomplish?
[06:54] <reisio> rigved: yeah, sorry I just don't know much about it
[06:54] <reisio> rigved: I do know that google drive offers 10GB more
[06:54] <Dr_Willis> reisio:  setting up about 20 videos to get reencoded from webm to mp4 for the wife to watch tomorrow. ;)
[06:54] <reisio> rigved: and there's an app called grive you can use, among other things
[06:54] <Dr_Willis> most of my stuff i keep in webm
[06:54] <rigved> reisio: np. thanks your helps
[06:55] <reisio> Dr_Willis: why webm?
[06:55] <Dr_Willis> reisio:  thats what cheese captures as.
[06:55] <reisio> how odd
[06:55] <Dr_Willis> plus it seems  half the time webm is actually a smaller file  then the reencoded mp4 i get
[06:55] <Dr_Willis> still not sure whats up with that.
[06:55] <reisio> that's probably just original vs copy
[06:56] <reisio> but it could be your mp4 process is flawed :)
[06:56] <Dr_Willis> these are only 720x480 video captures.
[06:56] <reisio> so?
[06:56] <joakimk> varunendra: did a simple (web based) check, and the down speed is 15.14 Mbps
[06:56] <Dr_Willis> 25 min shows. the sizes are normally close.  but every so often one show will be 50mb bigger  as mp4 then as webm.
[06:56] <joakimk> that what you meant?
[06:56] <Dr_Willis> Big long movies - always seem tobe smaller in size as mp4 for me
[06:57] <varunendra> joakimk, for now, please try -  echo "options iwlwifi swcrypto=1 bt_coex_active=N" | sudo tee /etc/modprobe.d/iwlwifi.conf
[06:57] <varunendra> joakimk, the above will create a .conf file that will load the driver with two parameters. If they don't help, you may try two more things.
[06:58] <helmut_> hi
[06:58] <reisio> Dr_Willis: you meant to say mp4 in that last one?
[06:58] <reisio> helmut_: hi
[06:58] <joakimk> varunendra: so, that replaces the conf file?
[06:58] <varunendra> joakimk, if it already exists, yes.  Or if you unload --> reload the driver
[07:02] <Dr_Willis> reisio:  some times the webm is smaller. some times the reencoded mp4 is smaller.   guess it dpeends on whats in the video.
[07:02] <reisio> Dr_Willis: by how much?
[07:02] <Dr_Willis> for a 25 min show. often 20-50 mb. 10-25%
[07:02] <varunendra> joakimk, the test you did suggests you are not getting N-channel speeds anyway, so 1) you can disable it in both the router, and the driver, 2) you can try changing the channel in the router to 1 or 11 (currently it is channel 4) - they usually work better with Linux. I hope you won't need it though.
[07:03] <Gsport> change to channel 13
[07:04] <reisio> Dr_Willis: that seems pretty negligible to me
[07:04] <reisio> Dr_Willis: I guess I'd compare the audio first, though
[07:04] <reisio> you can actually target specific sizes if you want
[07:04] <joakimk> varunendra: I'll look into that, thanks a lot! However, any idea why it helps to toggle the wifi hardware switch?
[07:04] <Dr_Willis> for the wifes tv show..its about fitting in the whole season on her flash drive. ;)
[07:05] <Dr_Willis> one show just now was 192mb for webm, 163mb for mp4
[07:05] <reisio> find . -type f -iname '*.webm' -exec sh -c 'ffmpeg -i {} -vcodec libx264 -preset ultrafast -acodec libfdk_aac $(basename -s .webm {}).mp4' \;
[07:05] <reisio> Dr_Willis: what's the flash drive capacity?
[07:05] <varunendra> joakimk, the first attempt may fail for many reasons. The negotiation not completing being one of these many.
[07:05] <Dr_Willis> reisio:  she has a dozen. ;) one per show she wants
[07:05] <Moscherkobold_> good morning everyone, after an update my ubuntu laptop starts (after i choose "ubuntu" in the bootmgr) only in a commandline prombt instead of the usual gui login screen
[07:05] <reisio> heh
[07:05] <reisio> Dr_Willis: what for?
[07:06] <Dr_Willis> She has Loveboat on the bright pink one with hearts...
[07:06] <reisio> Moscherkobold: grep EE /var/log/Xorg*log | pastebinit
[07:06] <Dr_Willis> she has little house on the one with the ... and so on.
[07:06] <varunendra> joakimk, there is also a slight discrepancy I just noticed. Is it an old installation upgraded to 12.04?
[07:06] <reisio> Dr_Willis: she's real mobile I guess?
[07:06] <joakimk> varunendra: yes
[07:06] <anon914> Moscherkobold_: its not morning for me
[07:06] <Dr_Willis> reisio:  not really. ;) but she has a tv that has a usb port  and hates looking through the hard drives.
[07:07] <reisio> Dr_Willis: so... you look instead? :p
[07:07] <Dr_Willis> reisio:  teaching her how to use xbmc and plex. but she also has tablet she uses
[07:07] <reisio> ah :p
[07:07] <reisio> interim solution then
[07:07] <varunendra> joakimk, it may be another possible reason. Your previous driver name was "iwlagn" which is now changed to iwlwifi. The system may be attempting the non existing driver in the first attempt.
[07:07] <reisio> but with a little simple math you _can_ tell ffmpeg to make every show FOO% of USB stick capacity
[07:08] <reisio> every show episode, rather
[07:08] <joakimk> varunendra: any way to mend that?
[07:08] <Dr_Willis> she has a media player (an o!play) that she loves -  she has a usb hub plugged into it. so she can plug in the 4 usb sticks she wants to watch that week.
[07:08] <reisio> o!play?
[07:08] <Dr_Willis> Western Digital OPlay! set top box/media center
[07:08] <reisio> ah
[07:08] <Dr_Willis> its an old one. we have had it for like 5+ years.
[07:08] <reisio> proprietary set top :)
[07:08] <Dr_Willis> it cant do netflix.
[07:09] <reisio> that's something
[07:09] <Dr_Willis> but it does have lots of ports. and can sometimes get onteh network. but no upnp
[07:09] <varunendra> joakimk, resetting udev rules should do the trick. Unfortunately, I don't remember the command. You may try to manually correct a file though.
[07:09] <reisio> newer TVs do it all, of course
[07:09] <Dr_Willis> She just dosent Like the newer settop box's or how the tv does it
[07:09] <reisio> :)
[07:09] <reisio> I'd use a (free) Unix-based set-top box, myself
[07:09] <Dr_Willis> that Oplay can also play DVD ISO Images.. which i havent seen any other set top boxs do.
[07:09] <reisio> anyways, we digress :p
[07:10] <Dr_Willis> its what SHE wants. :)
[07:10] <reisio> mplayer -dvd-device foo.iso dvd://
[07:10] <Dr_Willis> dosent matter  what i want. ;P
[07:10] <Dr_Willis> id tell her to use the Roku and the Plex channel
[07:10] <reisio> maybe it will "accidentally" break :p
[07:10] <joakimk> varunendra: because, for now, I'm more concerned with just getting online than getting the N-channel speeds :)
[07:11] <ackbahr> Little anacron question : I'm trying to setup a backup task, and I wonder what the "run-parts" already present in the default /etc/anacrontab mean?
[07:11] <Dr_Willis> I got her a WDTVlive hub also with built in  HD  - but she dident like it.  so its the grand kids Diego Box. ;P
[07:11] <reisio> ackbahr: man 5 crontab ?
[07:11] <reisio> Dr_Willis: this is the problem with people and their proprietary things
[07:12] <reisio> they make you duplicate exactly with free software
[07:12] <reisio> the meanies
[07:12] <reisio> best to make them use free software from the start
[07:12] <Dr_Willis> I have 2 tv's setup with Plex-Pi devices ;P
[07:12] <varunendra> joakimk, please try what is suggested in post #16 here : http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2162733&page=2&p=12734000#post12734000 to reset your udev rules.
[07:14] <reisio> Dr_Willis: I keep meaning to do that, only with mplayer and a webUI
[07:14] <reisio> and probably not a pi at this point
[07:14] <reisio> whoops, we digress more :p
[07:14] <Dr_Willis> Plex on my ubuntu file server and that PlexPi (or piplex) makes it handy.
[07:15] <joakimk> varunendra: the first part generates the file, and the "check" part just views it afterwards?
[07:15] <ackbahr> reisio: Thanks!
[07:16] <varunendra> joakimk, yes. You only need to check the udev rules file (the first 'cat' command in the check part)
[07:16] <varunendra> make sure the "iwlagn" part is replaced with "iwlwifi", joakimk
[07:16] <reisio> ackbahr: :)
[07:17] <ackbahr> reisio: Still reading, doesn't mean I'll get it... :)
[07:17] <reisio> ackbahr: but you found something mentioning it?
[07:18] <joakimk> varunendra: hmmm... After doing this, I didn't get a new .rules file
[07:18] <patriick> where would I report possible security holes in a package on the repos?
[07:18] <grendal-prime> ya so reisio  it didnt show as being there because i removed it.
[07:18] <grendal-prime> but it was supposed to go on the root.  vda
[07:19] <ackbahr> Well, I thought it was something specific to anacron but I realised it's in fact the command! I didn't know it yet, but the structure makes it obvious... Sorry for not looking properly, but I'd rather avoid mistakes... :D
[07:19] <joakimk> I have 70-persistent-cd.rules file only (plus the backup file, of course)
[07:19] <grendal-prime> Dr_Willis, what were you saying about webm vs mpg?
[07:19] <ackbahr> (That was for reisio)
[07:19] <varunendra> joakimk, are you sure the commands finished successfully?
[07:19] <reisio> grendal-prime: gj
[07:19] <reisio> grendal-prime: vs mp4, he was saying the don't produce files of the same size
[07:20] <reisio> ackbahr: ah
[07:20] <reisio> ackbahr: I should've thought of that :p
[07:20] <patriick> Guess I'll just leave this here. http://www.gnutls.org/security.html#GNUTLS-SA-2013-2 The gnutls version in the repos is extremely outdated.
[07:20] <joakimk> varunendra: well, they returned "udev stop/waiting" then "udev start/running, process 10970"
[07:20] <grendal-prime> ya webm is much smaller in most cases
[07:20] <MKCoin> Is there a way to restart compiz without breaking everything with a GUI?
[07:20] <joakimk> varunendra: same for network-manager, only process 11130
[07:21] <ackbahr> reisio: Sorry again. As you're already answering my questions, do you know when the "delay" setting starts?
[07:21] <reisio> grendal-prime: much?
[07:21] <grendal-prime> im doing a lot of that kinda work right now. and web me..can be fuzzy-er but streams..loads and its size is amazingly small than mp4
[07:21] <reisio> ackbahr: sorry I'm not that familiar with anacron :)
[07:21] <varunendra> joakimk, the creation part is "udevadm trigger". Did it return any outputs?
[07:21] <joakimk> varunendra: could it have created the new file in the wrong directory? I didn't cd to /etc/udev/rules.d first...
[07:21] <ackbahr> reisio: No problem, thanks again for before.
[07:21] <joakimk> varunendra: no output there...
[07:22] <joakimk> only the "restart" commands gave output
[07:22] <Dr_Willis> grendal-prime:  just noticed that some times the same video  in either one is smaller with no real pattern. ;)  same type of show. same legenth. but can be 30-40mb smaller in mp4 then webm.. but some times its the reverse
[07:23] <grendal-prime> hours worth of video in webm format captured from my desktop is usually about  130 megs.  Hours worth of riped dvd video in mp4 is around 5-700meg
[07:23] <varunendra> joakimk, no it shouldn't. Try a reboot then re-run the same commands. If the file is not created, restore the backup file and manually change "iwlagn" to "iwlwifi" in it. Although I believe the trigger command does more than that.
[07:23] <grendal-prime> well you can adjust alot of things..it depends on what you need as far as clairty.
[07:24] <grendal-prime> if you dont need hd, you will cut the size in half.
[07:24] <reisio> grendal-prime: that seems like a useless comparison...
[07:24] <grendal-prime> no its not
[07:24] <joakimk> varunendra: I'll try that :-D Thank you _very_ much for your excellent help!
[07:24] <grendal-prime> i can show you the diff
[07:24] <reisio> screen captured versus DVD ripped & transcoded?
[07:24] <reisio> they have entirely separate sources...
[07:24] <grendal-prime> sscreen capture is transcoded as well
[07:24] <grendal-prime> same res in the end
[07:25] <reisio> yeah, but you don't seem to be comparing screen captured transcoded to webm vs the same transcoded to mp4
[07:25] <grendal-prime> i do this allot dude
[07:25] <varunendra> joakimk, You're welcome, if it doesn't help. You should post your problem in the forums. Feel free to pm me afterwards (my id is same there).
[07:25] <grendal-prime> ok..sorry i have done that as well
[07:25] <reisio> okay :p
[07:25] <reisio> grendal-prime: and the differences are?
[07:26] <Dr_Willis> grendal-prime:  these are just ordinary tv shows/sitcoms - 25 min or so in legenth. 712x476 in size. faac audio. and they will be about 150-200mb in size. but   im just noticeing every so often webm will be 20-30 mb smaller.. or larger then the same file encoded to mp4 ;)  seems random.. or else im captureing more of the end credits and those encode better in one or the other
[07:26] <grendal-prime> i can get webm usually about half the size of a  mpg the same size ...differenc is the clarity on the webm will be not so great when you resize
[07:26] <reisio> grendal-prime: okay, what about an mp_4_
[07:26] <reisio> and if the clarity isn't the same, what does it matter...
[07:26] <Dr_Willis> same file - Mp4 = 204mb , webm was 190. so they are close.
[07:26] <grendal-prime> mp4 size physically on the screen will usally be locked.
[07:27] <reisio> I'm guessing vorbis audio in webm is rather lower quality
[07:27] <grendal-prime> that could be to...i also know that the webm is much more browser friendly.
[07:27] <reisio> it isn't, though :)
[07:27] <grendal-prime> ok
[07:27] <reisio> more browsers support mp4
[07:27] <grendal-prime> nevermind then
[07:28] <reisio> it has the potential to be, sometime in the future
[07:28] <grendal-prime> ok
[07:28] <grendal-prime> if you say so.
[07:28] <Dr_Willis> im playing them mainly on android tablets. both formats seem to  work the same. I just have to rename foo.webm to foo.webm.avi :) for my phones players
[07:29] <reisio> I do :)
[07:29] <reisio> Internet Explorer and Safari support MP4 over webm
[07:29] <reisio> for now
[07:29] <reisio> yeah for a personal collection, used with a player of your own choice, it doesn't matter of course :)
[07:30] <Dr_Willis> biggest issue i have with webm is that things like the file managers dont relize they are vidoes. so dont show the same properties/video info
[07:30] <reisio> just rename them .webm.mp4 :p
[07:30] <Dr_Willis> and some of the set top box's i got dont support webm
[07:30] <reisio> the GNU/Linux players won't care
[07:30] <reisio> ah
[07:30] <Dr_Willis> that dident seem to work  for windows, or nautilus
[07:30] <reisio> fancy new TVs support both, I believe
[07:30] <reisio> Windows? ewwww
[07:31] <reisio> nautilus should just pass it off to your dedicated media player
[07:31] <reisio> which shouldn't care
[07:31] <reisio> if otherwise, you probably aren't using VLC or mplayer
[07:31] <varunendra> grendal-prime, you said - " clarity on the webm will be not so great when you resize" - do you resize the mpg file or a source file? Transcoding to a lossy codec is always going to lose some quality.
[07:32] <grendal-prime> jesus
[07:32] <grendal-prime> im totaly wrong..
[07:32] <varunendra> ??
[07:32] <grendal-prime> everyone happy?
[07:32] <grendal-prime> in fact i know nothing abbout this
[07:32] <Dr_Willis> i mean the properties dialog in nautilus. but that DOES seem to be working now. (in 13.10) it was  not working i recall in the eralier ubuntu releases i had last month)
[07:32] <varunendra> If you are now.
[07:33] <ddssc> how do I revert changes to whatever was installed last?
[07:33] <ddssc> like I want to roll back installs up to a point
[07:33] <ddssc> possibru?
[07:33] <Dr_Willis> ddssc:  seen that asked befor.. never seen a clear simple/concise answer
[07:34] <Dr_Willis> now you can Pin specific packages to specific versions.. but thats not the same
[07:34] <Dr_Willis> !pin
[07:34] <varunendra> ddssc, there is no default "rollback" option in Ubuntu. Either you have to keep track of changes yourself, or maybe some third party application could do it, but I never heard of such any app.
[07:35] <reisio> grendal-prime: I'm not discontented :D
[07:35] <grendal-prime> hey i got an idea.....read this
[07:35] <grendal-prime> http://pacoup.com/2012/12/20/vp8-webm-vs-h-264-mp4-december-2012/
[07:35] <ddssc> Dr_Willis:  last thing I remember was installing nvidia 325 drivers from some ppt that got interrupted... maybe that screwed up everything
[07:36] <grendal-prime> or about the half a dozen other things right off the top of the google thang
[07:36] <Dr_Willis> ddssc:  if the package manager got killed/crashed during a upgrade.. thats not a good idea
[07:36] <ddssc> I'd like to apt-get remove --purge all that crap
[07:36] <ddssc> usually I'd check the logs and do it manually but apparently it installed too much shit..
[07:37] <ddssc> is it possible to uninstall all packages from a ppt repo?
[07:37] <Jordan_U_> !ppa-purge | ddssc
[07:37] <ddssc> like apt-get remove ppt/whatever --purge
[07:37] <ddssc> Jordan_U_: cheers
[07:39] <guest__> Ubuntu 12.04 LTS x64 is installed on my laptop.   There is not a cd in my tray and I cannot open it with the button nor with a terminal command.
[07:39] <ddssc> guest__: maybe your cd died?
[07:40] <Dr_Willis> theres the little paperclip hole. ;)
[07:40] <varunendra> Dr_Willis, old tricks never fail... ;P
[07:40] <Dr_Willis> eject command fails? does it even click?
[07:41] <grendal-prime> i got 3 old dvds that for some reason that is the only way to open them
[07:41] <anon914> who uses cds this days anyways...
[07:41] <ddssc> how do I list all ppa packages ?
[07:41] <grendal-prime> wow
[07:41] <Dr_Willis> gotta love sshing into a remote box. and using 'eject' to annoy whoever is sitting at the machine
[07:41] <grendal-prime> you sure thats a good idea?
[07:41] <reisio> cd drives are so flakey :p
[07:41] <grendal-prime> allot of times have to use the to make isos..then the go on the filer
[07:42] <reisio> the best was that IE bug for Windows that allowed a website to open the CD tray
[07:42] <Dr_Willis> Position a power strip where the ejecting tray powers down another device. ;P
[07:42] <anon914> i prefer using floppy drives
[07:42] <reisio> hahah
[07:42] <grendal-prime> no i have to do it ALLOT of times
[07:42] <grendal-prime> units of them
[07:42] <reisio> Dr_Willis: that may be the greatest makeshift software switch control ever
[07:42] <grendal-prime> hehehe
[07:42] <anon914> 1.44MB is all i need
[07:42] <guest__> I restarted my computer, hit F12 and pressed the cd tray eject button, inserted a blank dvd, booted Ubuntu and tested the eject command and it worked.
[07:43] <reisio> anon914: 79.7kB :)
[07:43] <guest__> But when the cd tray is empty and closed, the eject command via terminal does not work.
[07:44] <Dr_Willis> night all
[07:44] <guest__> I successfully burned a 32 bit version of Ubuntu 12.04 LTS.
[07:45] <guest__> When my cd/dvd tray has a cd/dvd in it, the eject command via terminal works.
[07:45] <guest__> But when it is empty, it does not.
[07:46] <guest__> Do I need to locate a driver for my optical drive?
[07:46] <anon914> guest__, try installing gentoo, that might fix the problem
[07:46] <reisio> guest__: try eject -t, eject -T, etc.
[07:48] <guest__> sudo eject -t eject: unable to find or open device for: `cdrom'
[07:49] <reisio> guest__: that's something else
[07:49] <reisio> guest__: you can specify the device path explicitly
[07:50] <reisio> eject /dev/sr0, etc.
[07:50] <guest__> I have tried [sudo eject /dev/cdrom] without the brackets and it does not work.
[07:51] <tasslehoff> is there a support channel for mactel, or is this the place?
[07:52] <ddssc> how do I list all installed ppa's ?
[07:53] <mohit> unable to use wifi on my dell xps 1340
[07:53] <mohit> BMC4322 car
[07:53] <mohit> card
[07:53] <varunendra> mohit, please show us the output of "lspci -nnk | grep -iA2 net"
[07:54] <varunendra> guest__, cd tray ejecting with disc in, not without disk is almost always a physical problem, not a software one.
[07:55] <grendal-prime> hmm werid
[07:55] <grendal-prime> need to look at these vids
[07:55] <grendal-prime> mayby im doing something seriously wrong..but
[07:56] <grendal-prime> ones 12 megs and sucks..and its mp4..the the other is 2.3 and its readable..should be the same settings...unless
[07:57] <grendal-prime> and the 2.3 is webm
[07:58] <mohit> varunendra, i am using windows now ..  i want to dual boot.. so i cant show you the out put sorry .. but  "Broadcom Corporation BCM4322 802.11a/b/g/n Wireless LAN Controller [14e4:432b] (rev 01" this was the output i guess..
[07:59] <energizer> I'm having some problem with my wifi. can I get help?
[07:59] <varunendra> mohit, do you have a wired connection on the laptop?
[07:59] <geektech713> what kind of router?
[07:59] <geektech713> what brand?
[07:59] <mohit> varunendra no
[08:00] <varunendra> energizer, please show the output of "lspci -nnk | grep -iA2 net"
[08:00] <geektech713> u don't wired into router to get access to it
[08:00] <geektech713> what brand of router?
[08:00] <varunendra> !broadcom | mohit
[08:00] <varunendra> mohit, use the "No Internet" method for the STA driver. That's the one that should work with your card
[08:01] <guest__> varunendra, This sucks.  When my cd/dvd tray is empty, I cannot eject it unless I reboot into F12 (boot device selection menu).
[08:01] <grendal-prime> did you try eject as root?
[08:01] <varunendra> guest__, are you aware of the paperclip trick ? ;)
[08:02] <mohit> varunendra i am using ubuntu 1st time .. i am using 13.04 64 bit version .. so please tell me the steps to do so
[08:02] <energizer1> varunendra: $ lspci -nnk | grep iA2 net
[08:02] <energizer1> grep: net: No such file or directory
[08:02] <guest__> Yes, but that is a bit of an annoyance to me.
[08:02] <grendal-prime> reisio, sorry that took so long but i was iincoding an 50 min webm video of how to build a virtual scada system.
[08:03] <varunendra> energizer1, you have to use the full command - starting from lspci... ending at net.
[08:03] <grendal-prime> guest__ did it work?
[08:03] <varunendra> energizer1, the pipe (|) symbol in-between is on the same key as backslash (\) on my US-104 keyboard.
[08:04] <reisio> grendal-prime: what're you mp4'ing with?
[08:04] <energizer1> varunendra: i thought i did? "$ lspci -nnk | grep iA2 net"
[08:05] <grendal-prime> openshot
[08:05] <varunendra> mohit, do you have the "bcmwl-kernel-source" package on your installation source? (under /pool/restricted/b... folder)
[08:05] <grendal-prime> video editor...
[08:05] <varunendra> energizer1, you forgot the hyphen before i
[08:05] <grendal-prime> i have tried 3 of them in the last month i get the same results
[08:05] <reisio> grendal-prime: try with ffmpeg -i original -vcodec libx264 -preset ultrafast -acodec libfdk_aac output.mp4
[08:06] <MonkeyDust> grendal-prime  winff is a nice gui for ffmpeg
[08:06] <grendal-prime> ok...im not going to do that..i need to be able to edit the files and then output them
[08:06] <grendal-prime> you are talking about transcoding only
[08:06] <grendal-prime> i have to edit..add sound remove sound and then add text animation..
[08:06] <energizer1> varunendra: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6082520/
[08:07] <grendal-prime> all of the editing studio software has that exact same results..
[08:07] <grendal-prime> dont know what to tell you..
[08:07] <MonkeyDust> grendal-prime  try asking in #ubuntustudio, it's multimedia dedicated
[08:07] <grendal-prime> i guess again i dont know anything about it but my personal experience with it.
[08:07] <energizer1> The problem that I'm having: My desktop wifi is extremely inconsistent. THe laptop sitting right next to it is always perfect. Both 13.04.
 No beause I don't have a freaking paperclip.
[08:08] <guest__> *because
[08:08] <grendal-prime> im using the same graphix apps that are in the ubuntustudio... i dont care ...i was simply trying to answer the question earlyer about why they are sometimes larger or smaller..
[08:08] <grendal-prime> guest...as root user
[08:08] <grendal-prime> can you type the word   eject
[08:09] <grendal-prime> and hit enter
[08:09] <varunendra> energizer1, please try (temporary change, will be lost at next boot) - "sudo modprobe -rfv ath9k" ..... then .... "sudo modprobe -v ath9k nohwcrypt=1"
[08:09] <energizer> yeah, like right now, the desktop, (energizer1) is broken
[08:09] <reisio> grendal-prime: well, media is different, but you linked to quite an exhaustive comparison already I think :)
[08:10] <guest__> grendal-prime - eject: unable to find or open device for: `cdrom'
[08:10] <grendal-prime> are you the root user?
[08:10] <grendal-prime> when you run that
[08:10] <ddssc> what's the proper nvidia driver to install for an optimus latop?
[08:10] <guest__> I see the $ prompt, so I think so.
[08:11] <grendal-prime> does it say  root@yourmachinename?
[08:11] <energizer> varunendra: ok did that
[08:12] <varunendra> energizer, now do whatever you did that triggered the disconnect (except manually disconnecting ;) ), see if it is anymore stable.
[08:13] <guest__> grendal-prime - no.
[08:13] <grendal-prime> guest__  you are not root then.
[08:13] <grendal-prime> guest__ type this   sudo -s
[08:14] <grendal-prime> then put in yours password when it asks for it
[08:14] <geirha> guest__: When you're logged in as root, there's conventionally a # instead of $ in the prompt to indicate that
[08:14] <grendal-prime> ya it also says...  "root"
[08:14] <grendal-prime> which is a big help
[08:15] <energizer3> --- <IP_ADDRESS> ping statistics ---
[08:15] <energizer3> 31 packets transmitted, 15 received, 51% packet loss, time 30134ms
[08:15] <energizer3> rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 4.044/82.130/115.021/45.529 ms
[08:15] <guest__> it says root@computername
[08:15] <grendal-prime> type eject
[08:15] <energizer> varunendra: i think that means its still bad...
[08:16] <grendal-prime> energizerya thats bad network throuput
[08:16] <grendal-prime> wireshark it
[08:16] <mohit> wifi working fine in live mode but cant use wifi after installing ubuntu 13.04 64 bit
[08:16] <varunendra> mohit, does "apt-cache show bcmwl-kernel-source" return any outputs? Not errors.
[08:17] <guest__> Same error message:  eject: unable to find or open device for: `cdrom'
[08:17] <mohit> varunendra i have uninstalled ubuntu from my sysytem .. i want to install it again with proper drievrs .. is there any way i can install the wifi driver during live mode ?
[08:17] <varunendra> energizer, please follow the instructions to run wireless_script in this post (but use the "Alternate script at the bottom of the post) : http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=12350385
[08:18] <varunendra> energizer, give us the pastebin link to the report the script generates.
[08:19] <varunendra> mohit, if you are going to reinstall, just check the "Install drivers" checkbox while installing. It will automatically install the proprietary driver for your card. But you don't need to go through that if you wish.
[08:19] <grendal-prime> guest__ try this
[08:20] <grendal-prime> cat /proc/sys/dev/cdrom/info
[08:20] <grendal-prime> see what cdrom devices it does know about
[08:20] <mohit> varunendra , there come 2 checkbox one for install update and one for 3rd party softwares .. which one should i check ?
[08:21] <varunendra> mohit, install updates.
[08:21] <mohit> varunendra Thanks .. hopefully this will work for me
[08:21] <varunendra> mohit, I'm not sure actually, check both ;P
[08:21] <varunendra> mohit, like I said there are other ways too, not very difficult :)
[08:22] <mohit> varunendra ha ha .. ok .. is there any way i can download them in live mode .. cause i can use my wifi in live mode
[08:22] <mohit> so later ubuntu find them from my system it self
[08:22] <guest__> varunendra - I run that command but nothing relevent shows up.
[08:23] <varunendra> mohit, perhaps. Does "apt-get install --print-uris bcmwl-kernle-source" return download links at the bottom of the output?
[08:23] <mohit> varunendra i am installing ubuntu now.. if chkbox things doesnt work .. i will contact you back :P
[08:23] <varunendra> guest__, sorry, what command?
[08:23] <DF3D2> are usb dacs supported ?
[08:24] <guest__> varunendra - my reply was meant for grendal-prime.  Sorry.
[08:25] <varunendra> mohit, remember the "wl" or "bcmwl" driver (two names for same thing). That is the one you need. Install it anyway you are comfortable with.
[08:25] <varunendra> guest__, np :)
[08:25] <abd-allah> how to execute an application/x-shellscript?
[08:25] <abd-allah> pls?
[08:25] <fudus> sh insertnamehere
[08:25] <grendal-prime> so your machine does not know if there are any cdroms installed. it soulds like a symbolic link has not been created for it.
[08:25] <nez3716> bash scriptname
[08:25] <guest__> grendal-prime - cat /proc/sys/dev/cdrom/info does not show anything relevant.
[08:26] <abd-allah> I'm opening it but it opens in gedit.
[08:26] <jozefk> can I get my external display working in live Ubuntu if I connect it to laptop with HDMI and I have sandy bridge on the laptop?
[08:26] <nez3716> abd-allah: you have to do that from a terminal
[08:26] <grendal-prime> well does it list any /dev devices?
[08:26] <energizer> varunendra: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6082569/
[08:26] <nez3716> abd-allah: not from the gui filemanager
[08:26] <grendal-prime> guest__
[08:26] <abd-allah> what to type nez37
[08:26] <fudus> or click the run in terminal button
[08:27] <guest__> grendal-prime - yes, go ahead...
[08:27] <nez3716> abd-allah: bash scriptname   (in the directory where the script was saved to)
[08:27] <grendal-prime> like does it list...
[08:27] <grendal-prime> drive name:		sr0
[08:27] <grendal-prime> drive speed:		24
[08:27] <grendal-prime> drive # of slots:	1
[08:27] <FloodBot1> grendal-prime: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[08:28] <abd-allah> nez3716:it says permission denied.
[08:28] <guest__> grendal-prime - when I have a blank cd or dvd in the tray, Ubuntu recognizes it, but if the tray is empty, no eject.
[08:28] <Moscherkobold> resio:
 good morning everyone, after an update my ubuntu laptop starts (after i choose "ubuntu" in the bootmgr) only in a commandline prombt instead of the usual gui login screen
[08:28] <Moscherkobold> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6082574/
[08:29] <grendal-prime> when you run that cat command did it bring back something that said "drive name: sr0"
[08:29] <abd-allah> nez3716:after i bash it ,it says permission denied and exited with code:126
[08:29] <guest__> grendal-prime - no.  It ididn't say which drive had a logical name.
[08:29] <nez3716> abd-allah: what kind of script is it? what should it do?
[08:29] <abd-allah> help pls.
[08:30] <varunendra> energizer, please run the script without 'sh'. Try "./wireless_script" or "bash wireless_script". It is not compatible with sh. The output is incomplete.
[08:30] <abd-allah> it's in fact tor browser bundle.
[08:31] <grendal-prime> i find that very odd.  past the output of that in pastbin   was there any output from that?
[08:31] <DF3D2> are usb dacs supported ?
[08:31] <nez3716> abd-allah: so it's the install script for that? maybe it needs to run as root. i never tried it.
[08:31] <abd-allah> pls help.
[08:31] <nez3716> abd-allah: hey, show some patience please.
[08:31] <abd-allah> ok.thanks
[08:31] <ActionParsnip> varunendra: what is the output of:   cat /etc/issue
[08:31] <varunendra> ActionParsnip, me??
[08:32] <grendal-prime> jesus its 130
[08:33] <grendal-prime> night
[08:33] <varunendra> abd-allah, is the script executable? (check "ls -l <your script name>")
[08:34] <abd-allah> yes
[08:34] <varunendra> abd-allah, is it tor browser installer?
[08:35] <abd-allah> no. it's like portable software. i've to run the script and the browser starts working.
[08:35] <energizer> varunendra: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6082590/
[08:35] <guest__> grendal-prime - http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/6082593/
[08:36] <mohit> can i use ubuntu in vmware .. so i dont have to dual boot ?
[08:36] <reisio> mohit: sure
[08:36] <reisio> or Windows in vmware :p
[08:36] <varunendra> abd-allah, then I won't recommend to run it with sudo or gksu, although it seems you may need it.. but running a browser with root privilege is very risky.
[08:37] <abd-allah> then what can i do?
[08:37] <fudus> all you need to do for tor is to click the start-tor-browser file and do run
[08:38] <fudus> i have it and it works fine
[08:38] <abd-allah> fudus:but it opens in text editor(gedit).
[08:38] <fudus> files pref behaviour ask each time
[08:38] <DF3D2> are usb dacs supported ?
[08:39] <fudus> then dclick on run will run it
[08:40] <abd-allah> fudus:in permission properties why it does not allow to execute file as program?
[08:40] <abd-allah> fudus:i can't check the checkbox.
[08:41] <fudus> it should be set already from the tar file
[08:41] <Moscherkobold> good morning everyone, after an update my ubuntu laptop starts (after i choose "ubuntu" in the bootmgr) only in a commandline prombt instead of the usual gui login screen
[08:41] <Moscherkobold> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6082574/
[08:42] <mohit> reisio its better to use it as virtual or in real boot
[08:42] <abd-allah> fudus:i can run it now. what i did is just move the bundle to /home folder and it runs.
[08:42] <abd-allah> fudus:amazing
[08:42] <abd-allah> thanks
[08:43] <reisio> mohit: I prefer to use a VM instead of dual booting
[08:43] <reisio> but it depends on the situation really
[08:43] <abd-allah> you,guys are too much helpful.
[08:44] <fudus> Moscherkobold, have fun with the nvidia drivers ;)
[08:45] <abd-allah> in virtualbox website version 4.2 is available but in Ubuntu Software Center why it is 4.1?
[08:45] <Moscherkobold> fudus: is it a driver problem? how can i solve this?
[08:45] <hardy1> hi
[08:45] <reisio> abd-allah: because .deb's don't make themselves
[08:45] <abd-allah> does not ubuntu provides latest update?
[08:45] <MonkeyDust> !latest
[08:46] <DJones> abd-allah, Ubuntu doesn't update packages when the original developer releases them, new versions generally only get released when a new release of Ubuntu is issued
[08:46] <fudus> unless it has a security flaw, no
[08:46] <hardy1> someone knows if the it's a ubuntuphone byable yet?
[08:46] <fudus> or someone goes through backporting fun
[08:46] <fudus> (no)
[08:46] <abd-allah> DJones:if i want latest version then what to do?
[08:46] <DF3D2> are usb dacs supported ?
[08:46] <fudus> download it from their website
[08:47] <fudus> for virtualbox anyhow
[08:47] <smw94> anyone use libreoffice impress 4.1 and crashed when using fade slide transition ?
[08:47] <DJones> !phone | hardy1 Not really, the hardware hasn't been developed yet, but you can install it on some current phones,
[08:47] <energizer> varunendra: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6082590/
[08:47] <fudus> they probably add their own apt source like chrome when you install their deb
[08:48] <smw94> anyone use libreoffice impress 4.1 and crashed when using fade slide transition ?
[08:48] <fudus> Moscherkobold, what version of nvidiad rivers do you have?
[08:48] <DJones> abd-allah, You would have to manually install it either from the developers website or from a ppa, however doing that wouldn't be supported by the Ubuntu channels
[08:48] <varunendra> energizer, I don't see any clear suspects in your output. There are a few things you may try, but I doubt they will show any quick results. The last resort will be compiling-installing latest compat driver for which I may not be able to give clear instructions right now. So I suggest you try the forums, them wait for a reply or PM me
[08:48] <DJones> !ppa | abd-allah
[08:48] <guest__> how do i get out root in the terminal?
[08:48] <TNTS> How do I remove the X.org drivers? (Using AMD Radeon HD 7480D)
[08:48] <Moscherkobold> fudus: i dont know
[08:48] <fudus> you can try removing it and go to updates or plain version
[08:48] <woodruff> hello, i want a vnc client for ubuntu so i can log into a qemu vm (also running ubuntu) anyone can recommand vnc client proggram ?
[08:49] <varunendra> energizer, you experience dropped packets also, right?
[08:49] <NK> i downgraded one of my package and told synaptic to mark it has "hold" to fix the version. But when i tried to install something else now, apt-get and aptitude keep telling me I have to upgrade it or delete it. Any idea how i can do to still use apt without this problem ?
[08:49] <guest__> How do I get out of root in the terminal?
[08:49] <energizer2> --- <IP_ADDRESS> ping statistics ---
[08:49] <varunendra> guest__, exit
[08:49] <energizer2> 55 packets transmitted, 38 received, 30% packet loss, time 54122ms
[08:49] <energizer2> rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 2.579/37.877/106.135/46.093 ms
[08:49] <guest__> duh.
[08:49] <guest__> Thanks.
[08:50] <varunendra> energizer2, is that while using the problematic ath9k card?
[08:50] <energizer> ya
[08:50] <varunendra> guest__, np :)
[08:50] <abd-allah> how to go to root and come out of it in terminal?
[08:51] <MonkeyDust> abd-allah  use sudo for root actions
[08:51] <varunendra> energizer, did you get the packet drops even after trying the "nohwcrypt=1" parameter I suggested earlier ?
[08:51] <TNTS> Why is it that when I try to remove X.Org drivers I get Abort. ?
[08:51] <guest__> abd-allah - To go into root ---> sudo -s
[08:51] <energizer> varunendra: ya, i've been doing everything you've told me in sequence without restart.
[08:51] <guest__> abd-allah - to get out ---> exit
[08:52] <energizer> varunendra: at some point i may get frustrated and want to buy another card. good idea? do you like a particular card?
[08:53] <fudus> Moscherkobold, you can try this? http://askubuntu.com/questions/225714/nvidia-drivers-fail-completely-after-update-to-3-5-019
[08:53] <fudus> energizer, anything taiwanese ;)
[08:54] <SynthMobile_> Help, after I rebooted after installing nvidia drivers I get stuck on a black screen with a blinking underscore im running 12.04
[08:54] <varunendra> energizer, not in particular, for this one, we may need some in-depth digging. Probably chili555 would be the best person to be able to help you. You can find him on the forums (ubuntuforums.org) My id is same there.
[08:55] <Coterabeth> .
[08:55] <geirha> energizer: One with a penguin on the box.
[08:55] <SynthMobile_> Help pls
[08:55] <varunendra> energizer, if you can do it without problems, you should try changing the channel from 6 to 1 or 11. These channels work nicely with Linux, but packet drops is still unexplained.
[08:55] <energizer> geirha: that means going shopping in a *store*
[08:56] <fudus> something not made by broadcom or atheros :P
[08:56] <energizer> varunendra: ok ill try changing channel. tomorrow ill do the forums if it doesnt work. thank you.
[08:56] <varunendra> Welcome ! :)
[08:57] <abd-allah> where to get a MAC OS iso to run it in VirtualBox on Ubuntu?
[08:57] <varunendra> fudus, I find broadcom chips good enough though, they only need a couple of commands one time, then work forever.
[08:57] <SynthMobile_> abd-allah torrent
[08:57] <varunendra> ;)
[08:58] <keanehsiao> hi. I would like ask, I follow this post : http://www.wong101.com/tech-cloud/how-set-vsftpd-ec2  to install ftp on ec2. however, i couldn't connect via cyperduck…  anything wrong ?
[08:58] <keanehsiao> my distribute is Ubuntu
[08:58] <abd-allah> give me torrent link of latest version pls.
[08:58] <DJones> abd-allah, That you'll have to get from the cd/dvd's that came with your MAC
[08:58] <fudus> abd-allah, apple only allows osx emulation on apple hardware
[08:59] <pratik> Hi! I am encountering problems with dpkg. I get a Bus error (core dumped) message whenever I am trying to upgrade or install any package. Can anyone please help me out?
[08:59] <abd-allah> fudus:can't i test it on intel processor?
[08:59] <pratik> !
[09:00] <fudus> only legally on apple hardware
[09:00] <abd-allah> oh god.fuck apple
[09:01] <Coterabeth> anyone know of an IRC client that allows vertically-split windows?  I like irssi but vertical splits would be nice
[09:01] <keanehsiao> hi. I would like ask, I follow this post : http://www.wong101.com/tech-cloud/how-set-vsftpd-ec2  to install ftp on ec2. however, i couldn't connect via cyperduck…  anything wrong ?   my server is ubuntu 12.04
[09:02] <Moscherkobold> Coterabeth: what do you mean with splits?
[09:02] <Moscherkobold> different channels per window?
[09:02] <Coterabeth> yes
[09:03] <MonkeyDust> Coterabeth  use screen in combination with irssi... screen can split
[09:03] <MonkeyDust> !info screen
[09:03] <keanehsiao> oh… no problem.. I have done that.
[09:03] <Coterabeth> irssi can only split horizontally though
[09:03] <reisio> keanehsiao: if you want secure file transfers, just use sshd
[09:04] <Coterabeth> I want something that can split vertically
[09:04] <keanehsiao> reisio: couldn't..  my design only use ftp...
[09:04] <reisio> Coterabeth: a non-GUI IRC client?
[09:04] <MonkeyDust> Coterabeth  screen can do that
[09:04] <Coterabeth> yes
[09:04] <pratik> Unpacking initramfs-tools (from .../initramfs-tools_0.103ubuntu0.7_all.deb) ... Bus error (core dumped)
[09:04] <keanehsiao> reisio: but I fixed it.. thanks.
[09:04] <reisio> Coterabeth: dunno, might check if weechat can
[09:04] <reisio> keanehsiao: gj
[09:04] <pratik> I am getting this error: Unpacking initramfs-tools (from .../initramfs-tools_0.103ubuntu0.7_all.deb) ... Bus error (core dumped)
[09:05] <Coterabeth> How?
[09:05] <abd-allah> is there any task manager in ubuntu just like Windows Task Manager in Windows?
[09:05] <Coterabeth> htop
[09:05] <fudus> dash type monitor
[09:05] <fudus> or system monitor
[09:06] <fudus> then processes
[09:07] <abd-allah> what to do if ubuntu get hanged?
[09:07] <fudus> use system monitor
[09:07] <fudus> or ctrl-alt-f1 sudo shutdown -r now :P
[09:08] <MonkeyDust> abd-allah  are use alt-f2 > xkill     to kill the frozen window
[09:10] <Moscherkobold> fudus: thank you http://askubuntu.com/questions/225714/nvidia-drivers-fail-completely-after-update-to-3-5-019 worked for me
[09:12] <d0x> Hi, if I execute a script with sudo myscript.sh, the variables in /etc/profile are not read. Where else to specify them?
[09:13] <geirha> d0x: /etc/profile is read when you log in
[09:14] <Moscherkobold> how to upgrade from 12.04 LTS to 13.04?
[09:14] <geirha> scripts will never read profile or bashrc
[09:14] <DJones> !upgrade | Moscherkobold
[09:14] <geirha> d0x: So I'm guessing you're running this script from cron or something?
[09:14] <Moscherkobold> DJones: thx
[09:14] <DJones> Moscherkobold, Pretty much follow the bot's link for instructions, you'll need to upgrade to 12.10 first and then 13.04
[09:16] <geirha> d0x: Err, sorry, I missed that you're running it with sudo. sudo drops most environment variables by default; you can configure it to let certain ones through
[09:16] <NK> :win45
[09:16] <geirha> d0x: Or set them explicitly e.g.  sudo FOO="$FOO" BAR="$BAR" yourscript
[09:19] <Johnny_Linux> nice flood. lol
[09:24] <thegladiator>  #jquery
[09:29] <fudus> ikonia cleans
[09:29] <fudus> sweep sweep
[09:30] <tavish> hi, i accidentally did 'rm -rf /usr/include/python2.7/ /usr/lib/python2.7/ /usr/bin/python' instead of rm -rf ./usr/lib/python2.7/ etc, which I was doing inside another directory. I dont have any system backups, is there any way to get the python stuff back? i dont think even apt-get is working
[09:31] <geirha> tavish: Possible, yes. Easy, no.
[09:32] <tavish> geirha: any pointers where to start?
[09:33] <geirha> tavish: The solution I'd go for would be to do a clean install on some other machine (could be in a vm) of the same release; then copy those dirs from the new install to your current machine, then reinstall all python-packages
[09:34] <fudus> apt-get doesn't use python dpkg -S /usr/include/python* sudo apt-get install python-imaging --reinstall
[09:35] <fudus> then dpkg -S for all the other folders you removed
[09:35] <afancy>  Hi, when I right-click my mouse, it always executes the command, for example "open a new window". How could i disable the  execution?
[09:38] <tavish> fudus: thanks, i will do that and if if nothing else works, do as geirha suggested
[09:38] <geirha> afancy: My first instinct would be that the mouse might be physically damaged; making it trigger a left mouse button click in addition to a right one
[09:38] <geirha> afancy: So I'd try to rule out that first, by testing it on a different computer/OS
[09:39] <ShapeShifter499> hi
[09:40] <ShapeShifter499> I'm noticing a few drivers are 32 bit only, how do I get them to work in 64 bit ubuntu?
[09:44] <SunJeep> yo
[09:44] <Coterabe1h> Hello
[09:45] <SunJeep> how goes it
[09:45] <karthikeyan> hi
[09:46] <karthikeyan> hi
[09:46] <karthikeyan> hi
[09:46] <karthikeyan> hi
[09:46] <karthikeyan> hi
[09:46] <FloodBot1> karthikeyan: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[09:46] <karthikeyan> hello
[09:46] <karthikeyan> hello
[09:46] <DJones> karthikeyan, One Hi/Hello is enough
[09:46] <karthikeyan> hello
[09:46] <FloodBot1> karthikeyan: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[09:47] <karthikeyan> DJones: Whhere are you from ?
[09:47] <karthikeyan> WHere are you from ?
[09:47] <karthikeyan> Where r you from
[09:47] <karthikeyan> wr are you from ?
[09:47] <ikonia> karthikeyan: stop repeating - final warning
[09:47] <ikonia> karthikeyan: as the question 1 time
[09:47] <DJones> karthikeyan, This is a support channel, do you have an Ubuntu support question
[09:47] <ikonia> ask
[09:48] <keanehsiao> hi. asking vsftp again.. how can I hide a folder and files with vsftp
[09:48] <karthikeyan> i have doubts regarding multi os alongside win 8
[09:48] <ikonia> keanehsiao: permissions
[09:49] <ikonia> keanehsiao: try the ##windows support channel
[09:49] <ikonia> keanehsiao: this one is for Ubuntu - type "/join ##windows"
[09:49] <karthikeyan> how to dual boot windows 8 and ubuntu 13.10
[09:49] <keanehsiao> ikonia: I install vsftpd on ubuntu..
[09:50] <MonkeyDust> karthikeyan  13.10 is not yet ready, install a supported release, then ask again
[09:50] <reisio> karthikeyan: should be the same as dual booting any other versions of windows and ubuntu, though
[09:50] <ikonia> keanehsiao: sorry, that was meant for karthikeyan
[09:50] <karthikeyan> karthikeyan: ok...Thanks a lot for your response :)
[09:50] <karthikeyan> ok...Thanks a lot for your response :)
[09:54] <jony_easyrider> which brand of CPU do you recommend for Ubuntu and for office use (sometimes with massive calculations in LibreOffice Calc)?
[09:54] <jony_easyrider> AMD or Intel?
[09:57] <ws2k3> hello i have placed this command in my rc.local Xvfb :99 -ac -screen 0 1024x768x8 > /tmp/xvfb.log 2>&1 & but it is not runned on boot what am i doing wrong?
[09:59] <Lacko> Helloo
[09:59] <guest__> How do I install .deb files in Ubuntu 12.04?
[10:00] <Lacko> I can't control my fans in ubuntu, when i boot ubuntu they go up to max speed.
[10:01] <Lacko> i tried this: http://tuxtweaks.com/2008/08/how-to-control-fan-speeds-in-ubuntu/ but it said it couldnt find any fans
[10:01] <MonkeyDust> guest__  To install .deb files, simply double-click (in Ubuntu) or click (in Kubuntu) on them to start the GDebi utility.
[10:02] <airtonix> guest__: or dpkg -i ./thing.deb
[10:03] <geirha> It opens them in the software center now adays
[10:03] <reisio> to install deb files, first make sure you can't just find the package in a repo :p
[10:06] <dev_> guys, is it possible to disable USB port for copying? but still allow the mouse & keyboard to work?
[10:07] <reisio> dev_: yeah...
[10:08] <dev_> reisio, any links or tutorials? i've been searching but no hope
[10:12] <holub> hallo
[10:12] <ShapeShifter499> hi
[10:12] <ShapeShifter499> so it appears what I need is in "/lib/modules/mykernel/drivers/platform/x86"   does that mean it will NOT load since this kernel is suppose to be 64bits?
[10:13] <tra23874> Hi, trying to run a script on startup to change the refresh rate, put it in /etc/init.d but doesn't execute, any ideas? thanks
[10:14] <geirha> tra23874: refresh rate of what?
[10:15] <tra23874> of the monitor, default is 60 Hertz and the script changes it to 85 Hertz
[10:16] <geirha> Then a script run by init won't help.
[10:17] <tra23874> is there another way to get to run automatically on start up? It works fine when I run it myself in the terminal
[10:23] <IamTrying> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6082917/  - Why the mount is failing?
[10:25] <MonkeyDust> IamTrying  pastebin the output of     sudo blkid
[10:25] <SuperLag> IamTrying: is this a CD image you're trying to mount? If so, try changing the filesystem type to "iso9660"
[10:25] <SuperLag> if I remember right
[10:26] <IamTrying> MonkeyDust, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6082924/
[10:26] <IamTrying> SuperLag, YES to have it in USB Stick
[10:26] <IamTrying> SuperLag, i can still use iso9660 ?
[10:26] <Axlin_> exit
[10:28] <SuperLag> IamTrying: no, it needs to be different
[10:28] <SuperLag> I think MonkeyDust is on the right track
[10:28] <IamTrying> SuperLag, -t auto failed -t vfat failed too
[10:29] <SuperLag> hold that thought... I think you're mounting the wrong device name
[10:30] <SuperLag> IamTrying: I'm assuming since this is your machine, you've got root access, yes?
[10:30] <SuperLag> IamTrying: and since you're trying to do a mount :)
[10:31] <SuperLag> IamTrying: do this... as root... after you unplug the USB stick, run "dmesg --clear" and then plug the stick in. Then pastebin the output of "dmesg".
[10:31] <jozefk> is it possible to get external monitor attached to laptop with HDMI working? HDMI is from nVidia which is in sandy bridge
[10:31] <SuperLag> jozefk: absolutely
[10:31] <jozefk> SuperLag, how?
[10:31] <d0x> geirha: ty
[10:32] <SuperLag> jozefk: does it show up in Displays under System Settings?
[10:32] <SuperLag> jozefk: and are you actually using the proprietary Nvidia driver?
[10:32] <SuperLag> I should have asked those questions in the reverse order, actually
[10:32] <jozefk> Just like that? it will show up in settings just like that?
[10:33] <IamTrying> SuperLag, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6082946/
[10:33] <jozefk> I want to try to boot live Ubuntu to see if it will work. So if the proprietary nVidia driver is intalled in live Ubuntu then yes, if not then no
[10:34] <SuperLag> jozefk: I *think* it might be... don't quote me on that
[10:34] <ikonia> jozefk: the propitary drivers are not on the livecd
[10:35] <jozefk> SuperLag, OK Thank you. At least you are giving me some hope and that's good. I will try and if I can't get it working I will come back :)
[10:35] <SuperLag> IamTrying: Okay. Yes. You're just trying to mount the wrong device. Change /dev/loop2 to /dev/sdc1, and try it that way
[10:35] <IamTrying> SuperLag, OK i was doing this # modprobe loop; losetup /dev/loop2 DellBIOS.img; fdisk -lu /dev/loop2 ; mount -o offset=32256 /dev/loop2 /mnt
[10:35] <SuperLag> jozefk: if they're there... or not.... I'd still try it. You've got nothing to lose.
[10:36] <IamTrying> SuperLag, i need to write it to USB later, cause i have another image to merge with /mnt
[10:36] <jozefk> Next month we will have a new Ubuntu yeah?
[10:36] <IamTrying> SuperLag, OR i am lost confused.. let me try yours
[10:36] <SuperLag> jozefk: unless you're brave and running the beta already
[10:37] <SuperLag> IamTrying: hold on.
[10:37] <jozefk> beta from 1 month before final release should be good enough in my opinion
[10:37] <SuperLag> IamTrying: I think this is all you'll need -> mount -t vfat /dev/sdc1 /mnt
[10:38] <MonkeyDust> jozefk  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SaucySalamander/ReleaseSchedule
[10:38]  * SuperLag hugs the /openurl script for irssi :)
[10:38] <Twenty-three> hi guys, i rencent update has left me without launcher in unity, i use nvidia propietary drivers, i have checked the compizconfig settings manager and there doesn't seem to be any problem with unity in there, how to go about it?
[10:38] <IamTrying> SuperLag, OK i will try now this, but why someone was writing this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6082959/
[10:39] <jozefk> thanks MonkeyDust
[10:39] <IamTrying> SuperLag, One image is from Dell to flush bios and another image for Booting to DOS
[10:39] <IamTrying> both needs to come to /dev/sdc? SuperLag
[10:44] <SuperLag> IamTrying: hold on just a second... looking at something from work. I haven't forgotten you. :)
[10:46] <IamTrying> SuperLag, OK - i was trying there instruction ( https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Flashing_BIOS_from_Linux ) i need to update the BIOS of Dell
[10:47] <blazemore> Is there a way I can just check if I can connect OK to a mysql server? If I run the "mysql" command to check it puts me in a prompt, which means I can't use it in a script.
[10:54] <shooter> hey
[11:03] <Drei> Hey guys, I need help. I tried to install the AMD Catalyst Driver but it failed. I lost the Unity bar and sudo apt-get install xorg-xserver is not working
[11:04] <peter110> is there Ubuntu like unity 2d launcher that can work on windows 7?
[11:05] <Drei> Anyone? Please.. I can't use my PC
[11:06] <auronandace> peter110: unity is not designed for windows
[11:06] <MonkeyDust> peter110  like this? http://www.noobslab.com/2011/09/ubuntu-unity-skin-for-windows-7-or-xp.html
[11:09] <peter110> so i can use the launcher only if i install ununtu skin?
[11:09] <erik__> Erik
[11:11] <MonkeyDust> peter110  further questions in ##windows, it's only a windows skin
[11:11] <columb> After recent video driver change unity no longer shows bar&title. Already tried to reset unity with no luck. Windows frames are still themed as if unity is still works fine. Any ideas?
[11:17] <spartn> Hello guys
[11:17] <spartn> i've got a problem with my ubuntu
[11:18] <gordonjcp> !details | spartn
[11:18] <spartn> i have the latest version of ubuntu installed and i'm receiving this error:
[11:19] <spartn> checking for UNSHIELD... no
[11:19] <spartn> configure: error: unruu requires at least version 0.9 of libunshield
[11:19] <spartn> but it's quite strange as i have already installed libunshield by using ubuntu software center
[11:19] <spartn> can someone help please
[11:20] <spartn> and i'm getting that error while running ./configure
[11:21] <gordonjcp> spartn: have you installed libunshield-dev ?
[11:21] <spartn> yes i have
[11:21] <gordonjcp> mmm
[11:21] <intellectus> I'm using Lubuntu 10.04. How do I change the default keyring password?  (Yes, i already asked in #lubuntu and got no answer).
[11:21] <gordonjcp> spartn: definitely installed the -dev package?
[11:21] <spartn> yes by using apt-get install
[11:22] <gordonjcp> spartn: could be that the version installed is too old
[11:22] <spartn> i have installed the latest 1.0.1
[11:22] <Drei> Can I reinstall Ubuntu but keep all my files?
[11:22] <b0unce> Drei: you can save your files , then reinstall
[11:23] <spartn> that version was for libunshield
[11:23] <Drei> Darn..
[11:23] <spartn> any idea what i can check or please :)
[11:24] <xro> Hi, i have an issue with empathy and facebook... i get the following message "Facebook account requires authorisation"
[11:24] <xro> do you know it? is there a workaround...
[11:24] <b0unce> xro: you have to deauth and re-auth the permission from facebook
[11:24] <geirha> Drei: If /home is on a separate partition, yes.
[11:25] <Drei> Then I guess it really is not an option. Can I do stuff with the terminal (like reconfigure X.Org) so I can fix the desktop?
[11:27] <MonkeyDust> xro  contact facebook
[11:27] <xro> do you have zuvkerberg phone?
[11:27] <MonkeyDust> !ot | xro
[11:28] <xro> B0unce: yep i did...
[11:28] <SuperLag> IamTrying: still here?
[11:28] <p1l0t> Is it not possible to rem out a line in crontab AFTER the # m h dom mon dow user	command
[11:29] <p1l0t> line?
[11:29] <xro> MonkeyDust, as there is a known bug describing this problem... i think about an ubuntu/empathy problem...
[11:29] <SuperLag> IamTrying: my apologies for the delay.
[11:30] <p1l0t> I have a line # 01 3* * *root after that and it runs it anyway despite the # before the line.
[11:30] <geirha> p1l0t: Hm. It shouldn't.
[11:30] <jrib> p1l0t: where do you have this line?
[11:31] <olspookishmagus> long time haven't logged in ubuntuforums, at least it's first time after the recovery on the attack
[11:31] <olspookishmagus> WHY is my username renamed? can I rename it back?
[11:31] <jrib> olspookishmagus: #ubuntuforums
[11:31]  * olspookishmagus tickles jrib
[11:31] <p1l0t> geirha: jrib: It is in-between # m h dom mon dow  command and the # after where all the entries are made
[11:32] <jrib> p1l0t: what file do you have this line in
[11:32] <p1l0t> jrib: crontab
[11:32] <jrib> p1l0t: how did you edit it (exactly)?
[11:32] <p1l0t> jrib: vim
[11:32] <jrib> p1l0t: "vim" opens up a blank text editor.
[11:33] <p1l0t> jrib: sudo vim crontab
[11:33] <p1l0t> from the /etc directory
[11:33] <geirha> p1l0t: Are you sure the job is not listed in other crontabs?
[11:33] <jrib> p1l0t: you can restart crontab but editing that file *should* just work as cron detects changes there
[11:34] <jrib> s/crontab/cron
[11:34] <geirha> p1l0t: E.g. it might have an entry in /etc/cron.d/* /etc/cron.daily or   sudo crontab -l
[11:35] <p1l0t> geirha: that's usually the only I mess with but I will double check. jrib: I'll try restarting it.
[11:36] <TNTS> Hi guys how do I fix the error "Can't load firmware "radeon/TAHITI_uvd.bin" ?
[11:36] <p1l0t> geirha: Yeah crontab is the only one running daily for my backups
[11:38]  * mad smirks at the middlefiger Intel just gave ubuntu :D
[11:38] <olspookishmagus> mad: link?
[11:39] <MonkeyDust> olspookishmagus  it's about Mir, Intel does not want to support it
[11:39] <TNTS> Okay, how do I fix the Unity interface. I lost everything, the Dash, the Launcher, the Tray on the top and all I got left is a Wallpaper. Reinstalling X.Org does nothing
[11:40] <TNTS> Anyone?
[11:41] <mad> olspookishmagus: http://cgit.freedesktop.org/xorg/driver/xf86-video-intel/commit/?id=58a7611ccfda88c7cbcc62b25b787d6b0fa64081&utm_source=anzwix
[11:42] <mad> MonkeyDust: XMir (which equals mostly 'supporting MIR', but yet is not the same)
[11:47] <pero_p> hi, my system crashed about 2 minutes ago and i have to reset my computer by case button, what log file i should look in to find out what cause this crash?!
[11:49] <varunendra> pero_p, log files in /var/log, especially syslog.1 and dmesg.0
[11:50] <IamTrying> SuperLag, Now trying this. http://www.math.ucla.edu/~jimc/documents/bugfix/10-linux-bios-flash.html
[11:51] <IamTrying> SuperLag, It has to work.
[11:51] <IamTrying> I got 10 minute for dead-line, over stressed now. Need urgent BIOS update so that it does not freeze on remote reboot. Scary moment :LOL
[11:52] <pero_p> varunendra, seems this caused the problem: CRON[18324]: (root) CMD (   cd / && run-parts --report /etc/cron.hourly)
[11:53] <pero_p> varunendra, i looked into this folder and it's empty
[11:53] <pero_p> varunendra, but all other cron.* have at least 1 file in them
[11:53] <pero_p> varunendra, any idea?
[11:53] <varunendra> pero_p, which folder? cron.hourly seems to be a file
[11:54] <pero_p> but for me /etc/cron.hourly is folder
[11:54] <varunendra> maybe. I'm not familiar with cron much
[11:54] <pero_p> varunendra, thanx anyway
[11:55] <varunendra> :)
[11:55] <varunendra> by the way, it is empty for me too. Looks like it is a place for custom cronjob files
[11:55] <gillzon> how can i link a directory to a group? the group should can  Read and Write to the dir?
[11:56] <ActionParsnip> gillzon: look into chgrp
[11:56] <gillzon> i will! thx
[11:56] <pero_p> varunendra, so this is not the problem, :(
[11:56] <pero_p> varunendra, it's bad that you don't know the problem, then you cannot do anything about it!
[11:57] <varunendra> pero_p, no. I looked into run-parts, and looks like that directory could be a place for the report file it could generate. Look into syslog closely.
[11:58]  * varunendra is wrong again, /etc/cron.hourly actually holds cronjob scripts it seems.
[12:04] <pero_p> varunendra, seems it's a kernel crash due to lock all system(even keyboard led's)
[12:06] <varunendra> pero_p, doesn't make much sense to me ;) . Kernel panic okay, system froze okay, but what caused it all? Usual suspects are buggy driver, low memory, I/O errors, acpi errors etc.
[12:07] <gordonjcp> jrgiffo17: why so many of you?
[12:07] <Johnny_Linux> wow. 17 of them
[12:08] <l0p3n> Hello! I'm using ps2pdf to create a pdf from a postscript file. The postscript was made from a plain text file of 4 pages. Does anyone know how to reduce the file size of the PDF?
[12:09] <pero_p> varunendra, thanks anyway. i hope this fix in near future in next updates!
[12:09] <pero_p> varunendra, bye
[12:09] <varunendra> bye :)
[12:09] <l0p3n> The file size of the PDF is now 1.7 MB
[12:12] <ActionParsnip> l0p3n: can imagemagic not make a pdf out of the PS? Or can you print the PS through a PDF printer etc?
[12:15] <Avgva2> hey
[12:15] <l0p3n> ActionParsnip: I have no idea, but I'm looking it up =) Thanks
[12:17] <gal> Hello all, i am using qemu with ubuntu os and i VNC to the guest OS but when i do that i see the ubuntu background right but the toolbar color is really bad and i cant even open terminal window and see what i write, anyone can help?
[12:18] <gal> (if i open the terminal window i just see white screen...)
[12:22] <IamTrying> http://linux.dell.com/repo/community/content/sles11-i386/i586/ - Where can i find this packages for Ubuntu 13.x ?
[12:27] <varunendra> l0p3n, what are you trying to achieve ?
[12:27] <jadron>  hello i installed mrtg under ubuntu when i start it i got bugs about SNMP_Session.pm
[12:28] <jadron> ...usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.12.4/SNMP_Session.pm line 608
[12:28] <l0p3n> varunendra: I am trying to reduce the file size of the PDF to below 1MB
[12:28] <l0p3n> * to a size below 1MB
[12:28] <varunendra> l0p3n, what is the current size and what is the type of contents?
[12:30] <l0p3n> varunendra: I have reduced it to 1,4MB. The file contains four pages of plain text.
[12:30] <l0p3n> in UTF-8 format
[12:31] <l0p3n> I made a postscript file of the plain text file using paps.
[12:32] <varunendra> Did you try printing it with PDF printer (the default one in Ubuntu)?
[12:32] <varunendra> l0p3n, ^^
[12:33] <l0p3n> varunendra: No I think I haven't. I don't think I have it installed :P
[12:33] <l0p3n> I'm using the server release.
[12:34] <cfhowlett> !ubuntu-server|l0p3n,
[12:35] <l0p3n> aha ok =)
[12:36] <HexaByte> Hi guys, any1 has a working Ubuntu 12.04 VHD for CouldStack 4.1.1 with XS 6.0.2, that is willing to share with me?
[12:37] <varunendra> l0p3n, try "gs -sDEVICE=pdfwrite -dCompatibilityLevel=1.4 -dPDFSETTINGS=/screen -dNOPAUSE -dBATCH -sOutputFile=<output file> -f <source file>"
[12:37] <cfhowlett> l0p3n, wait, I just realized you're working a PDF issue, not a server issue.  sorry
[12:37] <jadron> please anybody help ?
[12:37] <jadron> i cant fix mrtg bugs how can i get patchs for ubuntu?
[12:39] <blazemore> !details | jadron
[12:39] <Avgva2> !commands
[12:39] <Avgva2> cool bot
[12:39] <Avgva2> what language is it written in?
[12:39] <blazemore> !ot
[12:40] <l0p3n> varunendra: I tried your suggestion, unfortunately it didn't reduce the file size :/
[12:40] <varunendra> l0p3n, did you try it on the ps or pdf file?
[12:41] <l0p3n> On the pdf, maybe I should try it on the ps file?
[12:41] <varunendra> l0p3n, I just reduced a 2.4 MB file to 333 KB with that (16 pages of text and images)
[12:42] <l0p3n> varunendra: Executing it with the .ps file as the input file resulted in a PDF with the file size of 1.8MB
[12:43] <l0p3n> Something must be wrong with my .ps file ...
[12:43] <varunendra> l0p3n, what is the size of pages?
[12:43] <varunendra> l0p3n, are there links/bookmarks in it? Too many?
[12:43] <l0p3n> 4 pages in total, it's just a plain text file written in nano
[12:44] <jadron> i have a problem with mrtg running under ubuntu 11.10 when i start it it shows errors related with SNMP_Session
[12:44] <jadron> SNMP_Session::AF_INET6
[12:45] <l0p3n> varunendra: No there aren't any links nor bookmarks in it.
[12:45] <varunendra> l0p3n, the one I tried here was US-Letter size [US Letter, Portrait (216 × 279 mm)] - 16 pages with text and images (manual for a Siemens router)
[12:47] <DRatJr> Wanted to get a couple of answers concerning the Ubuntu forums.
[12:47] <l0p3n> varunendra: What if I use another encoding such as e.g. ACSII, would that maybe reduce the file size of the resulting PDF?
[12:47] <jadron> Starting mrtg, it complains about redefined SNMP_Session::AF_INET6:
[12:47] <DRatJr> Anyone down to answer them?
[12:47] <l0p3n> *ASCII
[12:48] <usr13> DRatJr: Ask and see.
[12:48] <Zoiaguyver> DRatJr: Just ask If someone is able to answer they will.
[12:49] <varunendra> l0p3n, I don't think that should matter. UTF-8 is supported everywhere and is not such a problem. But trying won't hurt ;). You may also try filtering the current pdf with pdftk, then retry the gs command.
[12:50] <varunendra> l0p3n, I don't know if pdftk can install on a server though. I can use it from command line, but I think it comes with GUI.
[12:50] <usr13> DRatJr: (We sincerely hope that all 1600-1800 so don't try and tell you whether it is a good idea to ask a question or not.)
[12:50] <OerHeks> DRatJr, join #ubuntuforums might be a better idea
[12:50] <DRatJr> I don't know much about WHY Ubuntu forums switched to the "Login with SSO" or really what "SSO" is. I ASSUME it is in response to the Ubuntu forums being "compromised" but I have no clue. Now my question is, is there ANY way to constantly stay logged in? I use the forum on my computer AND my phone, and it's just a hassle to always have to follow the "Login with SSO" link to be redirected, allow the forums to log me in, and then be logged
[12:51] <OerHeks> Dingle sign on, very usefull with forum, ubuntu-one, launchpad and more
[12:51] <OerHeks> *single
[12:53] <BluesKaj> 'Morning folks
[12:53] <DRatJr> What's the command to join another channel? Lol
[12:53] <DRatJr> Nevermind. Lol.
[12:53] <l0p3n> varunendra: Ok I'll give you in update if find any solution. Thanks for the help!
[12:53] <varunendra> np :)
[12:55] <DRatJr> Well, nobody is on now in ubuntuforums to answer my question. Can anyone in here answer it?
[12:55] <Sysamp> Hello. I have a question that i have been trying to find the answer for: Is fglrx modifiable and redistributable?
[12:55] <jadron> how to reinstall a package please
[12:55] <jadron> i have problems on perl
[12:55] <jadron> what is the command to reinstall
[12:58] <cfhowlett> jadron, depends.  was this package from the software center?
[12:59] <cfhowlett> Sysamp, redistributable?   sure.  mod?  I don't know.
[13:00] <Sysamp> hm. I was wondering, since it says that ATI Catalyst is both proprietary and shareware
[13:00] <SimonZes> hello
[13:00] <cfhowlett> SimonZes, greetings.
[13:01] <cfhowlett> Sysamp, fglrx is opensource, is it not?
[13:01] <Sysamp> I read somewhere that ATI allows its linux drivers to be modified and redistributed. Thank you cfhowlett
[13:01] <Sysamp> radeon is opensource driver
[13:01] <cfhowlett> Sysamp, no worries.  have fun.
[13:01] <Sysamp> fglrx = ATI Catalyst, which is AMD/ATI's proprietary video driver
[13:02] <curfont> Hi guys, I need some help trying to fix my xorg config
[13:02] <curfont> I basically have a server which is running raring, and I recently connected it to a TV (DVI->HDMI), it has an Nvidia GTX 275 in it
[13:03] <curfont> It shows GDM just fine, but when I try to log in it just goes back into GDM, flashes for a second
[13:03] <curfont> I think it has to do with the driver, I tried using Jockey text but it says "not in use"
[13:03] <geirha> Sysamp: Shareware just means you're allowed to share it.
[13:05] <Sysamp> That is true geirha, but as far as I know just some parts of it are shareware, while the rest are proprietary. Anyway, i am just interested to know if fglrx is modifiable and redistributable (AMD Catalyst).
[13:06] <ChogyDan> curfont: you could check /var/log/Xorg.0.log, or lshw -C video
[13:06] <curfont> ChogyDan: I did, I can't see any errors in there, it's quite strange
[13:06] <curfont> let me check lshw
[13:07] <l0p3n> varunendra: I found a solution to it! Instead of using paps I used groff -Tps <input_file>.txt > <output_file>.ps. Now the file size of the PDF is 11KB =)
[13:07] <ChogyDan> curfont: I take it this is a non-standard install
[13:07] <geirha> Sysamp: Proprietary just means that it's closed software. The term shareware is generally only used for proprietary software.
[13:07] <b0x> how can i disable the mouse "screen wrap"
[13:08] <geirha> *closed source
[13:08] <b0x> every time i move my mouse to the right side
[13:08] <b0x> it appears on the left
[13:08] <varunendra> l0p3n, wow! I wish we could see the properties of the source and the final file. But going to note that command for now..  Thanks for sharing :)
[13:08] <curfont> ChogyDan: it's a server install, and it's the first time I am using it with a monitor so it's probably not setup correctly. It does work through VNC though
[13:08] <b0x> i saw mention of window manager settings in a forum
[13:08] <HexaByte> Hi guys, any1 has a working Ubuntu 12.04 VHD for CouldStack 4.1.1 with XS 6.0.2, that is willing to share with me?
[13:08] <b0x> but cant find it in ubuntu 13.04
[13:08] <curfont> I was wondering if there was some sort of "reset" for the xorg config
[13:08] <curfont> or auto detect
[13:09] <b0x> theres something like dconf -reset /etc/x11/xconf.org
[13:09] <l0p3n> varunendra: =)
[13:09] <b0x> i had todo it recently to unbrake nvidia drivers
[13:09] <curfont> ChogyDan: http://pastebin.ca/2446470
[13:09] <curfont> ah
[13:09] <curfont> let me try that
[13:10] <geirha> Sysamp: Some proprietary software costs money, and you are not allowed to share it with your friends. Some proprietary software doesn't cost money, and you're not allowed to share it. Some proprietary software doesn't cost money, but you *are* allowed to share it.
[13:10] <ChogyDan> curfont: I think everything is auto detect, so you can just delete xorg.conf if you have one.
[13:10] <varunendra> l0p3n, looks like you created a ps file. What did you use to convert it to pdf? Convert command?
[13:10] <curfont> error: Error spawning command line `dbus-launch --autolaunch=859ca77113041e47c39abe744c01a2dc --binary-syntax --close-stderr': Child process exited with code 1
[13:10] <curfont> hmm
[13:10] <ChogyDan> curfont: it is using the nvidia driver
[13:11] <curfont> ok good
[13:12] <l0p3n> varunendra: Nothing fancy, just the basic ps2pdf input_file >output_file =)
[13:12] <ChogyDan> curfont: I'm not sure why gdm, but maybe you want a more standard install
[13:13] <curfont> ChogyDan: I could always just remove everything and reinstall the standard stuff
[13:13] <Sysamp> Thank you geirha; AMD Catalyst is proprietary, wikipedia says it's partly freeware.
[13:13] <curfont> what do I install?
[13:13] <curfont> (please not unity :P)
[13:13] <ChogyDan> curfont: ubuntu-desktop?
[13:13] <varunendra> l0p3n, simplicity rules :)
[13:13] <l0p3n> l0p3n: Indeed :)
[13:14] <curfont> ok its removing gnome and installing ubuntu stuff now
[13:14] <curfont> another issue, how do you get TV monitors (1080p) to work with console?
[13:14] <curfont> they dont support lower resolutions :(
[13:15] <curfont> so it just says "No Signal" when you switch to a console
[13:22] <FrankBullitt> In the latest release of ubuntu how do I navigate to the root folder from the gui?
[13:23] <FrankBullitt> I used to click on the folder name at the top of the window, but that doesn't work now.
[13:27] <curfont> now it flashes the nvidia logo but it still doesnt log me in
[13:27] <curfont> heh
[13:27] <curfont> maybe my user config is wrong
[13:28] <BlueInsides> Hi everyone, I need to help setting permissions on some files on my Ubuntu server. I have a file with the following permissions '-rw-------' when I do 'ls -l' and I need it to be '-rw-r--r--' I need help with the chmod command.  I know it is 'chmod xxx filename' but not sure what numbers I should put in place of the xxx
[13:28] <curfont> how do I reset that?
[13:30] <IAmNotARobot>  identify JordanAndSmith
[13:30] <IAmNotARobot> lolasdf
[13:31] <FrankBullitt> BlueInsides: chmod 644 file
[13:31] <OerHeks> BlueInsides, i think 644 > http://www.onlineconversion.com/html_chmod_calculator.htm
[13:32] <ChogyDan> BlueInsides: r=4,w=2,x=1, add them up
[13:33] <BlueInsides> Thanks FrankBullitt and OerHeks.
[13:33] <deepak_rai_> my grub menu time is only 4 seconds before the default option gets selected. Does anyone know how to increase it
[13:33] <geirha> or  chmod go+r  to just add those two missing bits
[13:33] <serethUbuntu> hi, I'm having trouble with reinstalling grub2. While creating a live disk grub was overwritten on disk sdb. I launched from a spare live usb disk and installed grub again with grub-install without errors. I also tried the boot repair program with this as result: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6083288/ - the bios however, still refuses to boot the disk
[13:34] <BlueInsides> ChogyDan: I'm still a newbie with Linux really and I've seen sites mentioning what you have but need to study a bit more as I don't get the adding up bit as it doesn't equal 644
[13:35] <xvzf> hi there, I hear sound only when logging in, but not afterwards. What can be the problem? I run Ubuntu 13.04 on an old macbook pro
[13:35] <ChogyDan> BlueInsides: first one is rw, 4+2=6, next is r, 4, last is also r, 4
[13:36] <ChogyDan> BlueInsides: so each is in it's own slot basically
[13:36] <foobarenko> I
[13:37] <ChogyDan> serethUbuntu: what happens when you try to boot?
[13:37] <OerHeks> xvzf maybe you need to install restricted extras, the login sound is a basic soundfile
[13:37] <serethUbuntu> ChogyDan, there are three drives, windows xp, ubuntu and win7. Depending on the configuration it will boot one of the two windows drives
[13:37] <serethUbuntu> regardless of ubuntu being the first
[13:37] <xvzf> OerHeks: not the szs
[13:38] <xvzf> system sounds are missing, but I do not hear the sound of videos, for example
[13:38] <curfont> ChogyDan: I added a new user, and it works nicely, what files do I need to copy over to my old user for the X settings?
[13:38] <varunendra> deepak_rai_, open your /etc/default/grub file with root access > look for line that says "GRUB_TIMEOUT=" > set its value to 10 ("GRUB_TIMEOUT=10"). Then do "sudo update-grub".
[13:38] <serethUbuntu> in addition, the two windows drives do not contain grub2 sectors. I only want grub2 to be part of sdb where ubuntu resides. The ubuntu disk is the first disk in the bios boot list.
[13:39] <curfont> oh, what, I am getting lots of popups "Ubuntu 13.04 has experienced an internal error"
[13:39] <ChogyDan> curfont: you might as well take a look, but those might all be from your previous login attempts
[13:40] <ChogyDan> curfont: I don't know what to copy.  The only thing I know of is to delete xorg.onf
[13:40] <ChogyDan> *xorg.conf
[13:40] <curfont> hmm
[13:42] <BlueInsides> ChogyDan: but if when I look at it there is 10 places to put a rwx and only 3 numbers. But then I see the 'd' at the start of the directories. Should I just ignore the first entry where d is or could be. Is this only to show its a dir or is it required to calc the number for the permission when its a dir?
[13:42] <ChogyDan> serethUbuntu: do you get any sort of grub msgs?  I think you can try holding shift during start
[13:43] <deepak_rai_> Thanks varunendra
[13:43] <serethUbuntu> ChogyDan, it skips the disk entirely - I could try rebooting and seeing what shift will do
[13:44] <varunendra> np deepak_rai_ :)
[13:44] <ChogyDan> BlueInsides: ignore the fist character, as like you said, it specifies whether it is a directory.   Thanks for your help.
[13:48] <Corey> Uh...
[13:49] <neonlight> installed 12.04 in a uefi asus notebook afterwards i installed grub-efi-amd64. gives me blank screen after choosing ubuntu in grub menu
[13:51] <fire__> how can i setup a local mirror ?
[13:51] <neonlight> installed 12.04 in a uefi asus notebook afterwards i installed grub-efi-amd64. gives me blank screen after choosing ubuntu in grub menu also diabled secure boot
[13:52] <Corey> End of Lastlog
[13:52] <fire__> Corey, how can i setup a local mirror ?
[13:53] <fire__> there is also a channel for ubuntu mirror if i remember
[13:53] <Corey> fire__: I cheat and use either apt-mirror, or cobbler to do that.
[13:53] <FrankBullitt> In the latest release of ubuntu how do I navigate to the root folder from the gui?
[13:53] <fire__> Corey, any tutorial or something to do ? because i am a complete novice
[13:54] <neonlight> installed 12.04 in a uefi asus notebook afterwards i installed grub-efi-amd64. gives me blank screen after choosing ubuntu in grub menu also diabled secure boot
[13:57] <neonlight> installed 12.04 in a uefi asus notebook afterwards i installed grub-efi-amd64. gives me blank screen after choosing ubuntu in grub menu also diabled secure boot. anybody? why is ubuntu not loading
[14:00] <varunendra> neonlight, did you try various boot options available : https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions
[14:01] <varunendra> neonlight, and use a Boot-Repair bootable disc to easily try/change the boot options : https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[14:01] <fire__>  /join #ubuntu-mirrors
[14:01] <neonlight> varunendra, let me try
[14:03] <ThePendulum> Greetings
[14:04] <ThePendulum> I am trying to connect to our school's wifi network, but it keeps asking me for authentication. I have no issues connecting to my WAPs at home, nor does Windows have an issue with the WAPs at school. I'm using Ubuntu 12.04.
[14:05] <FrankBullitt> In the latest release of ubuntu how do I navigate to the root folder from the gui?
[14:06] <varunendra> FrankBullitt, doesn't it show "filesystem" in the left hand pane? That's root.
[14:06] <ThePendulum> FrankBullitt: Click 'Computer' in Nautilus (the file manager)
[14:06] <ThePendulum> (I think)
[14:07] <FrankBullitt> ThePendulum: That's it. thanks.
[14:07] <varunendra> ThePendulum, please follow instructions in this post to download and run wireless_script : http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=12350385
[14:08] <ThePendulum> varunendra: I'll have a read, thanks.
[14:08] <universal> I downloaded a test.sh file.....how to run this file ?
[14:08] <varunendra> ThePendulum, use the "Alternate" version of the script from the link at the bottom of the post. Then post back the pastebin link to the report it generates.
[14:09] <ThePendulum> varunendra: I'm at school and I just found out I can't really click/copy links through SSH. Wat google query would lead me to that link?
[14:09] <varunendra> universal, ./test.sh if it is in your Home (or in the same directory where you are in the terminal)
[14:09] <varunendra> ThePendulum, just copy-paste the link in browser ?
[14:10] <ThePendulum> varunendra: I tried that, but putty is giving me a hard time
[14:11] <mathfreak> ThePendulum: I haven't used putty in a while. You can't highlight any text, right?
[14:12] <abd-allah> I'm trying to install a map app but it says 'The action would require the installation of packages from not authenticated sources.'
[14:12] <abd-allah> what to do?
[14:12] <abd-allah> pls
[14:13] <ThePendulum> mathfreak: I can highlight it, but not copy it or anything
[14:13] <varunendra> ThePendulum, you can google "Wild Man wireless_script" or "varunendra Wireless Script"... I hope that would lead you to one of the posts where that post is referred. Add Ubuntu Forums if needed. ;)
[14:13] <ChogyDan> abd-allah: if you trust the source, go ahead and install
[14:13] <ThePendulum> varunendra: Aight, thanks :) Sorry if I come in here again with the same question.
[14:13] <abd-allah> will i press 'OK' or 'Repair'
[14:14] <ChogyDan> abd-allah: can you pastebin the output you are looking at?
[14:14] <abd-allah> how ?
[14:15] <ChogyDan> !pastebin | abd-allah
[14:17] <abd-allah> ChogyDan:http://imagebin.org/270353
[14:17] <abd-allah> http://imagebin.org/270353
[14:17] <unity-gl> opengl is not working on my pc which causes unity to crash. what can i do?
[14:18] <unity-gl> this is the output of unity --replace http://pastebin.com/ZSJ8nEPq
[14:18] <ChogyDan> abd-allah: I'd say just hit repair
[14:19] <abd-allah> it now started 'Updating Cache'
[14:20] <lpapp> hi, who should own the /var/www folder?
[14:21] <unity-gl> guys how to stop opengl from crashing ? i can't run unity because of it
[14:22] <mackwerk> Hmm, my window manager has crashed without warning 2 times today, does it log to some where?
[14:22] <adamk> unity-gl: What video card and drivers?
[14:22] <OerHeks> lpapp www-data i guess
[14:23] <unity-gl> adamk: its a very old PC, bought in 2006 . something embeded i guess
[14:23] <lpapp> OerHeks: yeah, just tried that.
[14:24] <OerHeks> lpapp for easy control, make your user member of www-data
[14:24] <lpapp> OerHeks: I need the webservice to write it
[14:24] <lpapp> so yes, I guess I will need to add that user to the group.
[14:25] <BluesKaj> unity-gl, sudo lshw -C video
[14:27] <gr33n7007h> Is there any free VPN's that don't keep a log
[14:28] <unity-gl> BluesKaj: adamk http://pastebin.com/WCwUxxH8
[14:32] <tasslehoff> I have installed 13.04 on a retina macbook pro, and want to run with 1680x1050 resolution. When I do, things look less then sharp. Is that to be expected, or should the scaling be good?
[14:32] <unity-gl> any idea? how to get opengl running
[14:32] <tasslehoff> does it matter if I run noveau or the nvidia driver?
[14:33] <curfont> ChogyDan: how do I add Options to xorg after I removed xorg?
[14:33] <curfont> How do I generate a new one?
[14:33] <ChogyDan> curfont: I don't know, but maybe try the nvidia-config tool, or xrander or something
[14:35] <unity-gl> guys any idea how to fix opengl to run unity
[14:37] <MonkeyDust> odd: arandr, frontend to xrandr, exists in raring, but xrandr doesnt
[14:37] <ActionParsnip> unity-gl: which GPU?
[14:37] <ActionParsnip> unity-gl: and which release?
[14:37] <OerHeks> curfont, follow these steps http://askubuntu.com/a/281685
[14:38] <unity-gl> ActionParsnip: 13.04 and http://pastebin.com/WCwUxxH8
[14:39] <ActionParsnip> unity-gl: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-install-intelr-linux-graphics-drivers-on-ubuntu-13-04.html
[14:39] <ActionParsnip> unity-gl: not the best Intel GPU around
[14:41] <unity-gl> ActionParsnip: so what would you recomend to make unity run?
[14:46] <ActionParsnip> unity-gl: try the installer, your GPU is listed in the list of chips
[14:47] <gigantor> so, if upon upgrading a server instance, it is hung on selecting a PAM profile and has deleted everything , like apt, what can I do?
[14:48] <somsip>  bratva
[14:48] <somsip> oops
[14:50] <gigantor> no halp? I thought this was supposedly the most halpful channel on freenode
[14:50] <georgetso> greetings!
[14:50] <kostkon> !patience|raininja
[14:50] <MonkeyDust> gigantor  repeat your question every 15 minutes or so, in one line, until someone enters who knows the answer
[14:51] <georgetso> I ran into a problem. I disallowed password-login on my ubuntu vps, but forgot to add my public key to authorized_keys. so anyway to get access to my vps?
[14:52] <b0x> erm
[14:52] <raijin> georgetso: do you have a cpanel or something you can access? you can add a key that way
[14:52] <georgetso> raijin: nope, it's unmanaged
[14:53] <raijin> idk
[14:55] <universal> downloaded a TEST.sh file from net and excuted it terminal....output - ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo Downloads/TEST.sh  Downloads/TEST.sh: 14: Downloads/TEST.sh: Syntax error: Unterminated quoted string.....what does it mean ?
[14:56] <ChogyDan> universal: careful running random scripts from the net.  I think it just means there is a problem with the script
[14:56] <universal> ChogyDan: ok...so what to do with it now ?
[14:57] <ChogyDan> universal: you could pastebin it
[14:57] <ergotron> im trying to install norton 360, but everytime I double click it, it does nothing.
[14:57] <klcant> I would agree with ChogyDan ... sounds like script has issues
[14:57] <universal> the contents of file ? ChogyDan
[14:57] <ChogyDan> universal: yeah
[14:57] <universal> ok
[14:58] <lone> how to paste image?
[14:58] <ChogyDan> !paste | lone
[14:59] <universal> lone: you can also paste to tiikoni.com/tis/upload
[15:00] <universal> i mean upload
[15:00] <ergotron> why cant i get norton 360 installed?
[15:00] <ergotron> :(
[15:00] <ChogyDan> ergotron: are you running Ubuntu?
[15:00] <ergotron> yes
[15:00] <ergotron> i double click the norton360 installer
[15:01] <ergotron> hmm why do i get amazon advertisments when i do search?
[15:01] <ergotron> its worse than bing.
[15:01] <lone> http://imagebin.org/270361
[15:02] <universal> ChogyDan: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6083784/ klcant
[15:02] <ergotron> bing has better results too
[15:02] <ChogyDan> ergotron: I think you are trying to install a windows thing.  There are options for antivirus, but you don't need it usually
[15:02] <ergotron> i guess i can make do without norton for a while
[15:02] <ChogyDan> universal: :P  that's not a script, that's a webpage.  no wonder it didn't run
[15:02] <unity-gl> ActionParsnip: i followed the guide, installed everything thing. unity still crashes :( only metacity works
[15:03] <hero100> in vim, (r !date +%F) didn't work, why
[15:03] <universal> ChogyDan: ohh....but its extension is '.sh'
[15:03] <lone> http://imagebin.org/270363
[15:03] <lone> pls fix this error
[15:04] <lone> ChogyDan: pls
[15:04] <ChogyDan> lone: can you try updating from the command line?
[15:04] <unity-gl> lone:  open termianl. sudo apt-get upgrade
[15:04] <lone> ChogyDan:sudo apt-get update/upgrade
[15:05] <raijin> I just broke my install using upgrade
[15:05] <ActionParsnip> unity-gl: try setting it as the WM in a terminal, the output may give clues
[15:05] <ChogyDan> lone: correct, what unity-gl said was correct
[15:05] <Wiz_KeeD> hey guys
[15:05] <raijin> probably no way to fix it right?
[15:05] <lone> ok
[15:05] <georgetso> so no answer to my problem?
[15:05] <universal> http://mail.dataone.in/do/logout?l=en-US&v=dataone the left-hand side "check account usage"  ChogyDan ergotron
[15:06] <Wiz_KeeD> Can anyone recommend a pdf editor for Ubuntu?
[15:06] <ChogyDan> universal: I think you need to contact that website's tech support/admin
[15:08] <OerHeks> georgetso, there are no more answers, if you locked yourself out, no cpanel, then you need to get onside to repair your broken VPS
[15:09] <ChogyDan> raijin: I think you need to provide more details than that.  And all in one line please
[15:09] <georgetso> OerHeks: that is bad news. I guess I have to reinstall the whole system
[15:09] <universal> that link is to check the internet usage and not some random script.....I was surprised when it asked to open or download the test.sh file and btw thats a new site up from a few weeks only...so I guess its not fully built
[15:09] <universal> ChogyDan: ^^^^
[15:10] <ChogyDan> universal: I know, it's broken
[15:10] <raijin> ChogyDan: I did a sudo apt-get upgrade -f on my 10.04 LTS server instance, it proceeded to remove a bunch of stuff, including sudo, and now is hung, asking to select from a list of non-existant profiles
[15:11] <unity-gl> ActionParsnip: this is the output http://pastebin.com/UzA4CnZX
[15:11] <universal> ChogyDan: thnx man :)
[15:11] <ChogyDan> raijin: yeah, that sounds bad
[15:12] <raijin> without sudo or ssh, I am fked basically
[15:12] <Wiz_KeeD> anyone please?
[15:13] <MonkeyDust> Wiz_KeeD  inkscape can edit pdf's
[15:13] <Wiz_KeeD> inkscape, let me try, thaks!
[15:14] <Wiz_KeeD> Inkscape Vector Graphics editor MonkeyDust ?
[15:14] <MonkeyDust> Wiz_KeeD  maybe this link is useful http://www.ubuntugeek.com/list-of-pdf-editing-tools-for-ubuntu.html
[15:16] <tjad> Hi
[15:16] <tjad> Is it possible to create a process belonging to a group ?
[15:16] <tjad> that the group can control
[15:17] <tjad> I'd like to send a kill sig to the process from any user within a particular group
[15:19] <raijin> it is impossible to login wihtout PAM right?
[15:19] <ActionParsnip> unity-gl: what is the output of:  uname -a
[15:19] <LucidGuy> Anyone have experience with SLI setups on an Ubuntu workstation?
[15:20] <andybrine> Evening Everyone
[15:20] <ActionParsnip> tjad: http://serverfault.com/questions/325128/unix-permissions-to-allow-group-users-to-kill-each-others-processes   could use sudoers
[15:20] <unity-gl> ActionParsnip: xfwm4 works but unity and gala doesn't
[15:20] <ActionParsnip> unity-gl: what is the output of:  uname -a
[15:21] <tjad> ActionParsnip: ah wow, thanks Will take a look
[15:21] <ActionParsnip> tjad: be very careful with that file
[15:21] <MonkeyDust> I have switched to KDE and am loving it
[15:21] <tjad> ActionParsnip: k
[15:21] <andybrine> I have quite a techy question today and not sure if anyone here can help me out. Im trying to use Youtube Live Events on Ubuntu and am unable to as I need an encoder. Does anyone know an alternative to wirecast that will run on uuntu?
[15:22] <andybrine> ubuntu*
[15:23] <Pumpkin-> andybrine: I think you want gstreamer, and a quick google found http://bit.ly/18Pl5OW
[15:23] <Pumpkin-> might be a good starting point
[15:24] <tjad> ActionParsnip: Hmm ok.. so would it be advisable that I make a startup/shutdown script and only allow explicit access to that file via sudoers :?
[15:24] <bitfury_> hey guys, I have a script that runs from cron but no emails sent to Mail To address
[15:24] <bitfury_> the script has several "echo" statements, shouldn't they be emailed?
[15:25] <BluesKaj> andybrine, have you installed ubuntu-restricted-extras ?
[15:25] <universal> how to close a particular conversation window ? /part is for channel and not for individual user conversation window
[15:25] <andybrine> thanks Pumpkinm this is awesome
[15:25] <andybrine> I will have a good look at this
[15:25] <andybrine> yes I have ubuntu restricted extras installed
[15:28] <ActionParsnip> tjad: yes, you can add that so that only cerain users can have access to certain files using sude
[15:28] <ActionParsnip> *sudo
[15:28] <ActionParsnip> tjad: the first user just gets sudo access to all commands
[15:42] <FireBeard> hello
[15:43] <FireBeard> I have a question about a keyboard layout switcher
[15:43] <FireBeard> Mint had a nifty button to fast switch between layouts, is there something like that for 12.04 with Gnome 3 Fallback?
[15:44] <FireBeard> there's nothing in the panel addons
[15:44] <reisio> FireBeard: you might ask the mint guys what it's called, it's probably available for Ubuntu as well
[15:44] <reisio> although if it was for GNOME 3 only and not Unity, there's a chance it won't be perfectly compatible with Unity
[15:44] <FireBeard> well, I think it was a KDE thing
[15:44] <Guest75472> test
[15:44] <the_incognito> quit
[15:44] <Guest75472> quit
[15:44] <reisio> FireBeard: all the more likely it'll be simple to use on Ubuntu, then
[15:45] <john_john> how do I turn off microphone playback? I don't want to hear my own voice while speaking. I've tried typing alsamixer in the terminal and changing everything there but it either mutes the microphone or does nothing at all and I still hear myself :(
[15:45] <FireBeard> reisio: I can't seem to find a switcher tho
[15:46] <FireBeard> I was hoping to do it without installing
[15:46] <reisio> FireBeard: without installing?
[15:46] <serapath> hi
[15:47] <FireBeard> sorry, without installing something external, it'd be great if it was just a built in feature :)
[15:47] <reisio> FireBeard: yes, well :p
[15:47] <reisio> FireBeard: find out what it's called and you'll know
[15:47] <reisio> FireBeard: if it's for KDE, it's probably not out-of-repo
[15:47] <serapath> i have a small ubuntu vm using koding.com and i set up dropbox to sync a couple of files and directories, which works so far... ...but every time i leave koding.com and come back, i have to set up dropbox again
[15:47] <raijin> built in feature
[15:47] <raijin> there is no such thing in linux
[15:47] <serapath> is it possible to do that automatically?
[15:48] <reisio> serapath: what is koding.com?
[15:48] <FireBeard> raijin: in the DE
[15:48] <serapath> an online in-browser IDE with a social network that gives u one or many VM's you can administrate through a console in ur browser
[15:48] <FireBeard> but in this case, it isn't there
[15:48] <FireBeard> reisio: thanks for your help !
[15:48] <marcos_> buuuuuuuuu
[15:49] <serapath> the VM's run ubuntu afaik
[15:49] <NuSuey> anyone know why is ubuntu selecting the HDMI/displayport audio as default everytime I reboot? :o want to use other output as default
[15:49] <serapath> reisio:
[15:50] <Quest>  how to start an applicatioon or command like "java -jar filename" with gnu screen ?
[15:51] <serapath> reisio: console keeps repeating: Please visit https://www.dropbox.com/cli_link?host_id=34305f13afdce8826434d89bb4622ff184 to link this machine.
[15:51] <reisio> serapath: okay
[15:51] <reisio> Quest: when it starts, you mean?
[15:51] <serapath> and if i do, it gives me: Client successfully linked, Welcome Sera!
[15:51] <reisio> Quest: I forget, ask #screen or man screen
[15:51] <serapath> yes
[15:51] <serapath> but next time, i have to reauthenticate
[15:51] <reisio> serapath: next time after?
[15:51] <serapath> i hope its possible to make it remember it
[15:52] <reisio> serapath: closing & opening the browser?
[15:52] <serapath> when i leave koding and come back another time
[15:52] <serapath> not sure
[15:52] <serapath> i think the vm stays "up" for something between a minute and an hour
[15:52] <serapath> after that, when i come back, i have to set it up again
[15:52] <serapath> thus, files are still there, but the services i started are all down
[15:53] <serapath> and are not restarted
[15:53] <serapath> i do it manually every time
[15:53] <reisio> mmm
[15:53] <reisio> well
[15:53] <serapath> for example, its the same with my node application
[15:53] <reisio> first I would try another browser, to rule out some browser fault
[15:53] <serapath> but the apache which runs the website starts automatically
[15:53] <reisio> optimally another browser that uses another backend
[15:53] <Quest> reisio,  feeling difficultiy to understand man.   i just want to start an app inside screen.     and with meaning full name.     so should it be       screen -S myJavaApp java-jar file ?
[15:53] <serapath> tried it with chrome and firefox
[15:53] <reisio> serapath: okay
[15:53] <reisio> serapath: so you think it's something they're doing on their end?
[15:54] <reisio> serapath: if they're doing it on purpose, it might be really hard to undo
[15:54] <serapath> i'm not too sure, but somewhere in the social network of theirs, i have read that VM's power down or hibernate or something, when people go away from koding.com
[15:54] <reisio> serapath: it might be based on cookies that are given short timeouts, and you might be able to get an extension for your browser that makes cookies persist unnaturally
[15:54] <reisio> such as cookieculler for firefox (at least)
[15:54] <serapath> the reason was, that that will reduce the memory footprint on their side
[15:54] <serapath> or something like that...
[15:54] <reisio> serapath: it sounds like the kind of thing other people would want, did you search their site / online much?
[15:56] <reisio> Quest: that sounds rightish, did you try it? :)
[15:56] <serapath> i'm fine with them sending my VM into hibernate or something, but when i come back to koding.com i'd like my VM to restart all that which has stopped because of me being away for some time
[15:56] <john_john> please, I really need to turn off the microphone playback but I can't find an option for it anywhere. I checked the alsamixer settings as well as the pulseaudio ones
[15:57] <reisio> serapath: right
[15:57] <reisio> serapath: you could hack it with xdotool or something, but that'd be awful :p
[15:58] <Quest> reisio,  getting other issues.
[15:58] <reisio> serapath: three dudes in #koding
[15:58] <reisio> Quest: you should really just ask #screen, they'll know exactly what to do
[15:58] <reisio> Quest: 64 dudes in there
[15:58] <reisio> 270 in #tmux
[15:58] <Quest> reisio,  how to reattach that later?         screen -r myJavaApp?
[16:00] <reisio> Quest: probably, screen -list, screen -r foo, screen -d -r foo, etc.
[16:01] <Quest> reisio,  thx
[16:06] <Quest> how to upgrade a certain application and not all?
[16:07] <OerHeks> Quest, build a newer version yourself, or find a PPA with a newer version
[16:08] <Quest> OerHeks,  i meant by repos
[16:09] <OerHeks> Quest, if you enable backports, you will update all packages with newer versions, so that is not an answer
[16:10] <OerHeks> !backports
[16:10] <Cangaceiro> Cangaceiro
[16:13] <caimeo> test
[16:13] <irontomrackham> caimeo received
[16:14] <TauNeutrino> hey gays
[16:14] <TauNeutrino> what is it with these updates all the time?
[16:14] <reisio> TauNeutrino: ikr
[16:14] <TauNeutrino> ikr??
[16:15] <TauNeutrino> dafug is ikr?
[16:16] <reisio> something to say to a silly question :)
[16:16] <Pent> nfi
[16:16] <OerHeks> TauNeutrino, tomorrow is windows update day, ubuntu updates when the update is ready
[16:17] <TauNeutrino> no wait, that was not my question
[16:17] <MonkeyDust> TauNeutrino  last week, some guy complained because there were not enough updates
[16:17] <TauNeutrino> you just assume that I don't know that every linux distro upgrades and stuff
[16:17] <kostkon> TauNeutrino, please rephrase your question then
[16:17] <TauNeutrino> but why there are like 80 mb updates
[16:17] <reisio> no, what I assumed is that you know how to spell 'guys'
[16:17] <reisio> :)
[16:18] <Pent> guise
[16:18] <TauNeutrino> I used some other distros and there were much smaller updates, and sometimes I got things replaces and stuff
[16:18] <TauNeutrino> eats up my memory
[16:18] <reisio> TauNeutrino: well you don't have to install them
[16:18] <reisio> or even run the update manager
[16:19] <gvo> TauNeutrino: Memory?  Or disk space?
[16:19] <TauNeutrino> eehhr disk space
[16:19] <TauNeutrino> thx
[16:19] <TauNeutrino> I mean, some day I will have to buy a new pc with more disk space
[16:19] <TauNeutrino> only because of the updates
[16:20] <gvo> TauNeutrino: Normally only new kernels occupy more space.  Replaced apps are normally the same size or slightly larger.
[16:20] <Johnny_Linux> hard drives are cheap
[16:20] <TauNeutrino> and I have no overlook what is installed on ubuntu
[16:20] <OerHeks> TauNeutrino, you can run autoclean or auto-clean to remove unnessasery old versions
[16:20] <kostkon> gvo, or even smaller
[16:20] <gvo> TauNeutrino: What you see when you update is the download size not the resultant extra space.
[16:20] <TauNeutrino> hm
[16:22] <TauNeutrino> well, ok
[16:22] <universal> when doing "nmcli con down id <id>" it doesnt disconnects the connection permanently but it disconnects and then reconnects....everytime I have to keep doing "nmcli dev disconnect iface <iface>"
[16:22] <universal> for permanent disconnection
[16:23] <gvo> TauNeutrino: For instance:  Need to get 6,143 kB of archives. After unpacking 3,072 B will be used.  It'll download 6 Mb, but only increase your disk space by 3 K
[16:24] <gvo> That was doing an upgrade of a package on my system.
[16:25] <universal> and connecting via command "nmcli dev wifi connect SSID [password <pass>]" duplicates the connection meaning duplicating of "connection " to "connection 1" "connection 2" and so on the times its done by "dev wifi connect....." command
[16:27] <beef> Hi all.  With China now being so involved with Ubuntu and the new OS for China, has there been any talk of security concerns?  Backdoors built into Ubuntu?  Yadda x 3?
[16:28] <kostkon> beef, ubuntu is a foss project, the code is open to anyone.
[16:28] <reisio> beef: I don't believe China is remotely involved...
[16:28] <raijin> ubuntu is not exactly FOSS
[16:29] <reisio> if you're talking about Kylin, as with any Ubuntu derivative, they copied Ubuntu and gave it a preconfiguration and a new name
[16:29] <raijin> ^
[16:29] <OerHeks> UbuntuKylin is just ubuntu, with an other calendre and textmakeup
[16:29] <raijin> and chinese
[16:29] <raijin> obviously
[16:29] <reisio> the chances they have any actual _programmers_ / developers is quite low
[16:29] <leop> what's the easiest way to run a dedicated email server?
[16:29] <reisio> as none of that is required to copy a distro and reconfigure its DE
[16:29] <raijin> lol
[16:29] <raijin> wat
[16:29] <raijin> the probably have 10k workign on it
[16:29] <beef> reisio:  China and Canonical are using Ubuntu to build an OS which can spy on its own citizens.  They are involved.
[16:29] <reisio> raijin: nah
[16:29] <raijin> they* working*
[16:30] <raijin> um it is china
[16:30] <reisio> beef: according to?
[16:30] <neyder_> hi there, how can I create a custom desktop session, bassed in xfce, that can be choosed from lightdm
[16:30] <neyder_> ?
[16:30] <reisio> beef: anyways, Ubuntu is open source, you can audit it if you like
[16:30] <reisio> beef: I doubt you'll need to, I'm sure plenty of others do already
[16:30] <OerHeks> beef, if you are so sure, why ask ?
[16:30] <reisio> neyder_: install xfce, done?
[16:31] <reisio> neyder_: possibly create a new user for it
[16:31] <HFSPLUS> !ops | Hi guys my name is JOHN N
[16:31] <neyder_> reisio, custom, i mean, own initial wallpaper, panels configuration and menu configuration. to be loaded a new users
[16:32] <reisio> neyder_: ah, let's see...
[16:32] <reisio> neyder_: if you dpkg -L the Xfce packages, it should be obvious which files to change
[16:32] <beef> OerHeks:  They are not exactly hiding the security features.  They openly admit it.  I am concerned if any Chinese Governement developers are now working on main Ubuntu, not Kylin.
[16:32] <kostkon> beef, take your fud somewhere else
[16:32] <bazhang> !ot | beef
[16:33] <mojtaba> Hi, I have some images and I want to put them in a single pdf file. Do you know what software should I use?
[16:33] <reisio> neyder_: or the xubuntu packages, as you please
[16:33] <universal> when doing "nmcli con down id <id>" it doesnt disconnects the connection permanently but it disconnects and then reconnects....everytime I have to do "nmcli dev disconnect iface <iface>" for permanent disconnection
[16:33] <reisio> mojtaba: pdftk probably, or gs
[16:33] <reisio> mojtaba: or, imagemagick's convert + pdftk :)
[16:33] <neyder_> reisio, i did it, but after reboot, and new user, it doesn't load any customization
[16:34] <mojtaba> reisio: Can I put them all in a single pdf file?
[16:34] <reisio> yeah, probably for i in *.image; do convert "$i" "${i%.image}.pdf"; done && pdftk *pdf cat output final.pdf
[16:34] <reconmaster> if i leave the default .profile in my home directory, would that overide my .zprofile?
[16:34] <neyder_> where should i ask?
[16:35] <klcant102> mojtaba: imagemagick should be able to do what you want
[16:35] <fr0sty> Hi
[16:35] <daftykins> hi
[16:35] <reconmaster> for some reason, .zprofile isn't loading on login
[16:36] <fr0sty> I have a problem with my sound. Since i deactivated lightdm and started using openbox (by manually starting it from tty1) no sound works anymore, pavucontrol still recognizes the applications that try to use sound but i get nothing on the other end. that is the output of alsamixer
[16:36] <fr0sty> $ alsamixer Fehler beim Öffen des Mixer-Gerätes: Datei oder Verzeichnis nicht gefunden
[16:36] <fr0sty> sry
[16:36] <universal> anyone ?
[16:37] <fr0sty> $ LANG=C alsamixer cannot open mixer: No such file or directory
[16:37] <mojtaba> thanks
[16:37] <universal> !pdfeditor
[16:37] <universal> !pdf-editor
[16:37] <reisio> mojtaba: tested that command I gave, works perfectly :)
[16:38] <fr0sty> Can somebody help me please or give me a hint on where to start fixing the sound issue?
[16:38] <mojtaba> reisio: I will test it, thank you very much
[16:38] <universal> when doing "nmcli con down id <id>" it doesnt disconnects the connection permanently but it disconnects and then reconnects....everytime I have to do "nmcli dev disconnect iface <iface>" for permanent disconnection
[16:38] <universal> and connecting via command "nmcli dev wifi connect SSID [password <pass>]" duplicates the connection meaning duplicating of "connection " to "connection 1" "connection 2" and so on the times its done by "dev wifi connect....." command
[16:38] <reisio> mojtaba: convert from imagemagick, pdftk from pdftk :p
[16:39] <BluesKaj> fr0sty, install alsa-base alsa-utils
[16:40] <fr0sty> alsa-base is already the newest version. alsa-utils is already the newest version.
[16:40] <fr0sty> BluesKaj: Got another idea?
[16:40] <SolarisBoy> reconmaster: zsh loads .zprofile - is your default shell zsh?
[16:40] <universal> good pdf editors for ubuntu ?
[16:40] <kostkon> universal, master pdf editor
[16:41] <bhavesh> I need to access my Windows partitions but when I try to mount them, I get an error stating that it is unsafe to mount that partition. I need the partition to access a ISO file stored in there. Also I cannot safely shutdown my windows 8 anymore as it runs into a BSOD on startup. Any solutions?
[16:41] <reconmaster> SolarisBoy: yes, zshrc and zshenv load, but not zshprofile
[16:41] <kostkon> universal, search in the usc
[16:41] <universal> kostkon: ok
[16:41] <reisio> bhavesh: I believe there's a force mount option
[16:41] <reconmaster> SolarisBoy: all i have in zprofile is a command that checks for emacs daemon and starts it if not running
[16:41] <mojtaba> reisio: should it be *.image or *.jpg?
[16:41] <reisio> -o force
[16:42] <reisio> mojtaba: whatever you're dealing with
[16:42] <SolarisBoy> reconmaster: do you have a .zlogin present?
[16:42] <reisio> mojtaba: just change it in both places
[16:42] <reisio> imagemagick groks everything
[16:42] <reconmaster> SolarisBoy: no, i tried renaming .zprofile to .zlogin but that didn't fix anything
[16:42] <bhavesh> reisio: Would there be any chances of turning the partition corrupt?
[16:42] <SolarisBoy> reconmaster: whats your zsh version?
[16:43] <BluesKaj> fr0sty, pastebin the output of , aplay -l
[16:43] <reisio> bhavesh: probably a _chance_, sure, but it's probably silly low
[16:43] <reisio> bhavesh: ##windows can help you make it not complain, though
[16:43] <reconmaster> SolarisBoy: 4.3.17
[16:43] <fr0sty> BluesKaj: No soundcard found, i think it's an rights issue. I am not in "audio" group
[16:43] <bhavesh> reisio: they ask me to boot into windows for that, which I cannot.
[16:44] <fr0sty> still weird, it worked in Unity today
[16:44] <reisio> bhavesh: they can help with not being able to boot into it, too
[16:44] <reisio> bhavesh: but if you don't want to bother, and want to be as safe as possible, ddrescue backup your Windows partition/s, then force mount it
[16:44] <BluesKaj> fr0sty, then join the audio group :)
[16:44] <fr0sty> BluesKaj: really looks like it. as root i get sound cards
[16:44] <mojtaba> reisio: How can I control their places in the page?
[16:45] <DarkWarrior> Please somebody help me solve this visibility of partitions:  After installing Ubuntu 10.04.3 LTS am not able to see the windows partition and an extra parted partition.   Initially, I had a 10.04.2 LTS which would load and also mount the partitions automatically.  How can be able to fix this?
[16:45] <mojtaba> reisio: I mean which one first, which one second, ...
[16:45] <bhavesh> reisio: kay, thanks
[16:45] <SolarisBoy> reconmaster: in the shell that your trying in try this " if [[ -o login ]]; then; print yes; else; print no; fi "
[16:45] <SolarisBoy> reconmaster: it should be "yes"
[16:45] <reisio> mojtaba: oh, instead of *pdf
[16:45] <reisio> mojtaba: you'd do one.pdf two.pdf thr.pdf, etc.
[16:46] <reisio> mojtaba: if you use *pdf, it should be ordered the same as ls *pdf shows
[16:46] <mojtaba> reisio: ok thanks
[16:47] <leop> what's the easiest way to run a dedicated email server?
[16:47] <dumb_questions> anyone know for certain if I can set up a software RAID in 11.04 server using the current install without losing the data on that drive?
[16:47] <universal> when doing "nmcli con down id <id>" it doesnt disconnects the connection permanently but it disconnects and then reconnects....everytime I have to do "nmcli dev disconnect iface <iface>" for permanent disconnection
[16:47] <universal> and connecting via command "nmcli dev wifi connect SSID [password <pass>]" duplicates the connection meaning duplicating of "connection " to "connection 1" "connection 2" and so on the times its done by "dev wifi connect....." command
[16:47] <reisio> leop: server edition... probably asks if you want to during installation?
[16:47] <reisio> leop: alternatively, just install one? Or: tasksel
[16:48] <OerHeks> dumb_questions, 11.04 is EOL
[16:48] <dumb_questions> OerHeks: but not out of commission just yet. It's giong to 12.04 as soon as the RAID is set up and confirmed
[16:49] <leop> reisio, will i need a dynamic ip address to use it?
[16:50] <reisio> leop: you'd probably want one
[16:50] <reisio> depends
[16:50] <leop> i can't see how it could work otherwise
[16:50] <reconmaster> SolarisBoy: getting a no on that
[16:51] <reconmaster> SolarisBoy: which explains why it isn't loading, but i thought when i log into ubuntu, that is creating a login shell
[16:51] <OerHeks> dumb_answer yes "out of commission" no updates, upgrading is tough, 11.04 > 11.10 > 12.04
[16:51] <reisio> leop: well you don't actually have to have a public email server to have an email server :)
[16:51] <reisio> although I think a jabber server would be better in that situation
[16:51] <reisio> in fact, I think jabber is probably better than email in any situation
[16:52] <reisio> it's more easily secured, real time if you want it to be
[16:52] <MonkeyDust> what is jabber?
[16:52] <reisio> huge massive benefits
[16:52] <reisio> MonkeyDust: it's an im protocol
[16:52] <caelian> hello guys. I have " Dead Space, Burnout Paradise, Crysis 2, Dead Space 3, MoH, Mierrors Edge" origin keys to exchange for Natural Selection 2 or counter strike source (for steam) In case anyone is interested, please query me ;-) Since steam works on ubuntu, I think noone should have it in for me, for posting here ;-)
[16:52] <dumb_questions> OerHeks: Got no choice. Not my machine, but my problem.  Anyway, do you know about the RAID question?
[16:52] <reisio> MonkeyDust: xmpp
[16:52] <reisio> I think facebook even uses it
[16:52] <leop> reisio, people use email so i have to use too
[16:53] <reisio> leop: it's thinking like that which got germany into a very large war :p
[16:53] <OerHeks> Software raid? hw raid/lvm ?
[16:53] <OerHeks> !raid
[16:54] <kostkon> caelian, wrong channel, try #ubuntu-steam
[16:54] <Richter> hi, i have a little issue. My ubuntu server can't conect to my other gentoo server
[16:54] <caelian> kostkon: thanks
[16:54] <reisio> Richter: connect?
[16:54] <Richter> Sep  9 13:49:41 huguinho kernel: [ 1661.553020] IPv6: ADDRCONF(NETDEV_UP): eth1: link is not ready
[16:54] <leop> reisio, geeks don't have social life so they won't know :P
[16:54] <reisio> OerHeks: hrmm?
[16:54] <MonkeyDust> Richter  tip: there's also #ubuntu-server
[16:54] <reisio> leop: heh
[16:54] <dumb_questions> OerrHeks: software using mdadm. I should have mentioend that. I don't see anything talking about whether I'll lose data or not.
[16:54] <Richter> ok
[16:54] <Richter> i will try in ubuntu-server. thx
[16:57] <dumb_questions> obviously i'll have a backup made first, but hoping to only clone once. Thought this was an easy question/answer ,but maybe not. Situation is the current server has one disk now. I want to set it up for RAID1, but the current drive, a WD Green, isn't really suited for this server. I'm swapping that out for two Reds. I'd love to clone once to one Red, install both new Reds, set up RAID1 and be
[16:57] <dumb_questions> done.
[16:58] <daftykins> dumb_questions: set up RAID on the reds first, then clone original disk to the new RAID'd volume
[16:58] <daftykins> done \o/