[08:50] <jussi01> Ryiel: yeah, so true
[08:51] <Ryiel> binks: Hmm... Does it even work with cable cards? I've never had any dvb-c, so i dont really know. How did you install the kaffeine-sc? .deb file? Which version?
[08:52] <kprofthreat> Hmm
[08:53] <binks> i installed deb 0.3.3 and yes it should work on dvb-c as should vdr and mythtv
[08:53] <Ryiel> can you see the plugin in kaffeine?
[08:54] <Ryiel> dvb/dvb settings
[08:54] <binks> yes i can
[08:54] <binks> in dvb plugins
[08:55] <Ryiel> then it should work. the keyfile has to be in /home/yourname/.kaffeine and the name is SoftCam.Key
[08:55] <binks> but if i enter the plugin there are no entries under Newcs client settings
[08:56] <Ryiel> cause you dont use newcs
[08:57] <binks> arr ok so there is nothing to setup in sc plugin
[08:58] <Ryiel> nothing at all
[08:58] <Ryiel> but you need a proper softcam.key
[08:59] <binks> hmm ill have to try o work out how to make it then
[09:00] <binks> Ryiel: :) ill try it
[09:00] <Ryiel> i sent you my keyfile, just try to follow the scheme
[09:00] <Ryiel> i hope it helps
[09:05] <randoman> hey guys
[09:05] <randoman> whats the best way to add commands to bootup of kde
[09:05] <randoman> is it to add a script to /etc/init.d
[09:05] <binks> Ryiel: thanks for the help need to restart
[09:06] <stdin> randoman: if it's just a couple commands then put them in /etc/rc.local
[09:07] <randoman> k
[09:07] <randoman> but if its a full on script put it in init.d
[09:09] <stdin> randoman: then you'd have to make links in /etc/rcX.d/ and make sure it's not ran at shutdown too. you can just put the path to the script in /etc/rc.local too
[09:11] <marcelo> hay alguien que sepa espanol?
[09:11] <jussi01> !es
[09:11] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[09:14] <poweruser1> Major linux n00b here. How would I rename my main acct?
[09:14] <akrus> deluser;adduser :D
[09:15] <poweruser1> Uh, w/out deleting my acct?
[09:15] <akrus> sudo nano /etc/passwd
[09:15] <akrus> change your account name
[09:15] <akrus> save it
[09:15] <akrus> re-login o_O
[09:15] <akrus> no idea if it's right
[09:15] <akrus> it will likely work, but no idea how :D
[09:15] <joncsn> how come firefox tries to play imbedded realplayer files but doesnt actually play?
[09:15] <poweruser1> Well, least you made an effort to answer
[09:15] <poweruser1> Ty
[09:16] <akrus> :)
[09:16] <akrus> joncsn: doesn't work for me as well :o realplayer never worked well T_T
[09:17] <joncsn> drats
[09:17] <stdin> poweruser1: System Settings -> User Management (I would guess)
[09:17] <joncsn> how will i watch democracynow
[09:17] <Consty> Can you install KDE4 in Kubuntu 7.04?
[09:18] <joncsn> is there a difference between firefox and mozilla-firefox
[09:18] <akrus> poweruser1: here it's called 'About me' :)
[09:18] <stdin> Consty: read the announcements on kubuntu.org
[09:18] <crimsun> joncsn: the latter is the obsoleted binary package name.
[09:19] <akrus> the name, but not the login o_o
[09:19] <stdin> joncsn: mozilla-firefox is the old name
[09:19] <joncsn> how come flash works on the adobe site for me but not on other web pages?
[09:19] <stdin> joncsn: installed flash9 ?
[09:19] <joncsn> yep
[09:19] <akrus> poweruser1: oh year stdin is right :)
[09:19] <Consty> stdin: That is so cool, have you installed it?
[09:19] <akrus> year=yeah
[09:19] <stdin> then it should (if it's flash)
[09:20] <akrus> Adobe is using Ajax when Flash it's not available, are you sure it's really flash?
[09:20] <stdin> Consty: yeah, but that's because I'm fishing out some of the many, many bugs
[09:20] <Consty> stdin: So it's pretty unstable?
[09:21] <stdin> Consty: extremely
[09:21] <stdin> Consty: it's only really useful for development
[09:21] <stdin> Consty: no where near ready yet
[09:21] <joncsn> 'This product requires Mozilla Firefox 1.5 with Macromedia Flash 8'
[09:23] <stdin> joncsn: what does "apt-cache policy flashplugin-nonfree" show?
[09:23] <Consty> stdin: Ah rats. :)
[09:24] <joncsn> installed 9.0 etc
[09:24] <stdin> Consty: they expect a stable version (release) by october
[09:24] <stdin> joncsn: after you installed it, did you restart firefox?
[09:24] <Consty> stdin: what kind of great new features have you seen in kde4?
[09:24] <joncsn> yes
[09:25] <stdin> Consty: well, it's a compleat rewrite :p speed is better than ever plasma is looking nice and dolphin is getting there
[09:26] <stdin> Consty: and the composit extention to kwin is nice too :)
[09:26] <stdin> joncsn: and going to the address about:plugins shows flash in there?
[09:27] <joncsn> on adobes site?
[09:27] <stdin> joncsn: no, go to the address "about:plugins"
[09:28] <joncsn> oh sorry
[09:28] <joncsn> yes says it is enabled
[09:28] <joncsn> application/x-shockwave-flash
[09:29] <stdin> then it should work
[09:30] <joncsn> o well
[09:30] <joncsn> is there a way to use realplayer instead of mplayer trying to embed stuff?
[09:34] <Consty> stdin: I'm actually a long time gnome user planning to migrate over to KDE. :P
[09:34] <lie> hello
[09:34] <Consty> stdin: Primarily because of amarok and k3b.  Plus it just looks a bit more recent in terms of technology.
[09:34] <lie> anybody want to talk to me
[09:35] <stdin> Consty: well, it is :P and it's getting better all the time, there have been 3 releases in 18 months
[09:36] <Consty> stdin: It just always seems like kubuntu is not nearly as supported as ubuntu (for obvious reasons), I guess I never used it because I was always worried that it would drop or something. :)
[09:36] <stdin> Consty: use both?
[09:36] <lie> hello mili
[09:36] <Lynoure> lie: if you just want to chat, #kubuntu-offtopic or #ubuntu-offtopic are more chatty, this is the support channel
[09:36] <mili> hi
[09:36] <Consty> stdin: What do you mean?  install kubuntu-desktop ontop of my ubuntu desktop?  No way..
[09:37] <lie> ok thanks lynoure
[09:37] <jussi01> lie: also #ubuntuforums is good for that
[09:37] <lie> how to get there
[09:38] <Lynoure> lie: /join #ubuntu-offtopic
[09:39] <lie> hello
[09:40] <AutoMatriX> Hi, folks
[09:41] <jussi01> hello AutoMatriX
[09:44] <Cuito> hmm
[09:45] <Cuito> can someone help me?When i start the computer LILO starts kubuntu.I cant choose which OS i want to start.And i want to remove LILO to GRUB(Or just learn how to config LILO)
[09:46] <AutoMatriX> Cuito: man lilo :p
[09:47] <jussi01> !grub
[09:47] <Cuito> (No manual entry for lilo):P
[09:47] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[09:52] <micman> hello everybody
[09:52] <micman> hello shiva r  u there?
[09:53] <micman> superkiddo r u there too?
[09:53] <jussi01> micman: whats your issue?
[09:53] <jussi01> can we help?
[09:54] <micman> thx jussi01  . i dont need help for know.
[09:54] <jussi01> micman: ok :D
[09:55] <micman> jussi01,  i m signing out . c u later.
[09:57] <marco__> how can i configure konversation that it doesn't open automatically when i start kubuntu?
[09:57] <Cuito> when they say boot liveCD they do mean cd /***/***/?
[09:58] <nster> marco__ do you leave it open when you restart or shut down kubuntu?
[09:59] <marco__> mmm....i don't know....
[09:59] <marco__> i should restart
[09:59] <marco__> ?
[09:59] <nster> what ive learned is that when you leave a program running like the console next time you restart it will reopen
[09:59] <marco__> should i?(sorrY)
[09:59] <nster> so close it first then restart
[09:59] <nster> see if it reopens
[09:59] <stdin> Cuito: they mean the CD you installed from
[09:59] <marco__> ahhh
[09:59] <marco__> no no
[10:00] <marco__> I always close the program, and when i restart it open.....
[10:00] <nster> hmm
[10:00] <marco__> automaticallu
[10:00] <marco__> y
[10:01] <lupul> hi. is there a command line mp3 player?
[10:01] <lupul> with sound
[10:01] <nster> lupul
[10:01] <nster> sudo apt-get install cplay
[10:01] <nster> also
[10:01] <nster> sudo apt-get install mpg123 for mp3 support
[10:01] <stdin> lupul: mplayer
[10:01] <lupul> if i have libxine isn't it good?
[10:01] <AutoMatriX> marco__: you did not leave the live-cd in your driver, did you ?
[10:01] <nster> cplay uses mpg123
[10:02] <marco__> auto i didn't
[10:02] <nster> its actually mpg123-alsa if you use alsa
[10:02] <lupul> ok. got it. thank you
[10:02] <lupul> and stdin
[10:02] <nster> np
[10:03] <marco__> ok, thank you, you tried to help me..... byebye
[10:03] <Kprofthreat> /
[10:04] <Kprofthreat> =/
[10:08] <kharloss> hi there. after 2 month  i have a problem with my ubuntu server. connection is verry slow , even between my computer and my server . both are in the same room, conected at the same switch . any solution  ?
[10:20] <fulgidus> Salve!
[10:26] <crazy_bus> I've got a folder full of .tif files that I want to convert to small png files.  Is there a program or script to easily do this?
[10:30] <crocodile> how does konversation decide what color to assign to a nicknamee?
[10:31] <crocodile> there are 7 color settings, just it just pick a random one for each nick?
[10:34] <epimeth> crocodile: I think so
[10:35] <crocodile> ok, trying to work out some kind of a less rainbow theme here
[10:48] <Neil-> www.phoenixphotography.org crashes firefox for me, with nothing in terminal, but konq is fine.. any ideas whats up?
[11:19] <crocodile> at the 2:20 mark of this video (a beryl demo) you see the guy playing with his program launcher.  What launcher program is it?  http://youtube.com/watch?v=ZD7QraljRfM
[11:19] <ardchoille> crocodile: What does it look like?
[11:20] <crocodile> a launcher program but when hes clicking and dragging the icons in it they bounce back into place
[11:21] <jussi01> crocodile: looks a bit like AWN
[11:22] <jussi01> hang on, might be kiba dock...
[11:22] <jussi01> yeah, kiba dock i think
[11:23] <crocodile> ok thanks
[11:23] <crocodile> how does AWN compare to it?
[11:24] <jussi01> crocodile: awn is not really a launcher, its a window manager,...
[11:24] <jussi01> AWM
[11:24] <jussi01> sorry
[11:26] <crdlb> AWN is both a lanucher bar and a taskbar
[11:26] <crdlb> "avant window navigator"
[11:26] <crdlb> launcher*
[11:26] <jussi01> yeah... something like that... i dont use it
[11:27] <crdlb> it also uses gconf
[11:27] <grul> !mp3
[11:27] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[11:28] <crocodile> crdlb - sounds like it might conflict with kde, or do you not even use kde?
[11:28] <crdlb> it shouldn't conflict, but it'll pull in a lot of gnome and might look a bit out of place
[11:30] <ksivaji> Jucato hi
[11:30] <W1ZrD> How (if possible) can I hide/unhide folders in my home directory?
[11:31] <se7en> ls -a to see them all
[11:31] <Jucato> hi
[11:31] <W1ZrD> se7en: I know that, but how can I toggle and make then visible/hidden?
[11:31] <Jucato> W1ZrD: View -> Show hidden files in Konqueror?
[11:32] <W1ZrD> Jucato: yes
[11:32] <W1ZrD> Jucato: But still, it does not show the,
[11:32] <W1ZrD> *them
[11:33] <Jucato> what do you mean? It will show hidden files and folders
[11:34] <W1ZrD> Jucato: sorry, what I mean is, that the folders are hidden (I can see them in Konq) but question is: how can I make certain folders hidden/unhidden?
[11:34] <jussi01> remove the . before them?
[11:34] <Jucato> W1ZrD: rename the folder/file removing the . at the beginning. BUT! do not do that for folder/files that are hidden to begin with
[11:35] <W1ZrD> Jucato: Reason is, that there are some hidden folders which I need access to from other programs (thoose programs cannot find hidden files)
[11:35] <Jucato> everything directly under your /home/username that are originally hidden need to stay that way
[11:35] <Jucato> W1ZrD: what programs?
[11:35] <W1ZrD> Jucato: It's one for instance, called PakScape running under Wine, that can't see hidden folders/files
[11:36] <W1ZrD> But I'll try to simply remove the . and see if that works
[11:36] <Jucato> I don't know PakScape, but like I said, do not unhide hidden files or folders. they are like that for a reason. and programs are configured to look for them as hidden files/folders
[11:36] <Jucato> ok.. if you really want to mess your system that bad....
[11:37] <W1ZrD> Jucato: I know what you mean, on the other hand, I see no reason for this specific folder to be hidden
[11:37] <W1ZrD> I'll give it a go :)
[11:37] <jussi01> W1ZrD: make sure you back up first
[11:37] <Jucato> W1ZrD: just because you see no reason doesn't mean it's not meant to be hidden
[11:37] <Jucato> but your call
[11:38] <W1ZrD> Jucato: True, but isn't it just enough to re-name it back if it doesn't work?
[11:40] <W1ZrD> Jucato: Seems to do the trick with that specific folder, wouldn't want to try it on system folders though. Thank's for the help, I'm off :)
[11:41] <ksivaji> "apt-get install wine" where this command will store files of wine
[11:42] <frojnd> does Bluez support 2.0. USB adapters ??
[11:45] <jussi01> ksivaji: .wine
[11:46] <ksivaji> jussi01 in which directory it will be stored
[11:46] <jussi01> ksivaji: .wine
[11:47] <jussi01> ksivaji: thats where all the config files will be,
[11:47] <jussi01> once you run winecfg
[11:51] <ksivaji> jussi01 "sudo apt-get install vlc" this command will download source file or some .deb file ?
[11:52] <jussi01> ksivaji: it will download and install the deb
[11:53] <ksivaji> jussi01 so i cant see source code right but i need source  code
[11:53] <jussi01> ksivaji: what do you need source code for?
[11:54] <ksivaji> jussi01 just i wnat to see
[11:54] <Jucato> ksivaji: apt-get source vlc
[11:54] <mudda_> moinsen!
[11:54] <Jucato> no sudo
[11:54] <ksivaji> jussi01 ya i got source code but it seems large 15mb
[11:54] <mudda_> ich suche so ein dock/panel....wie man es auch nennt - im mac-style. welches ist das beste?
[11:54] <jussi01> ksivaji: thats about right
[11:54] <jussi01> !de | mudda_
[11:54] <ubotu> mudda_: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[11:56] <ksivaji>  jussi01 tell one simple software i wnat ot see its source
[11:56] <ksivaji> *want to*
[11:56] <jussi01> apt-get source hello
[11:56] <jussi01> :)
[11:57] <jussi01> ksivaji: what are you trying to do?
[11:57] <ksivaji> jussi01 i want to see source code
[11:58] <jussi01> ksivaji: yes, I understand, but _why_ do you want to see the source code?
[11:59] <ksivaji> jussi01i am an engineering student  i havent see source code of any software
[11:59] <jussi01> ksivaji: ok, well hello is about as basic as it gets
[11:59] <jussi01> so do that command i gave you earlier
[12:00] <jussi01> apt-get source hello
[12:00] <ksivaji> jussi01 just i wnat to know how it looks
[12:00] <ksivaji> E: UnaE: Unable to find a source package for hello
[12:01] <jussi01> ksivaji: do you have all the repos active?
[12:01] <ksivaji> dunno
[12:01] <ksivaji> how to check that
[12:02] <Jucato> ksivaji: in Adept, or manually check /etc/apt/sources.list
[12:02] <ardchoille> ksivaji: Here is my sources.list , it has all the official repos enabled:
[12:03] <Jucato> you need the deb-src lines enabled
[12:03] <Jucato> or check the option in Adept Manager
[12:03] <jussi01> yeah, in adept-> manage repositories, then make sure source is ticked
[12:04] <ksivaji> ok wait
[12:04] <ksivaji> !pastebin
[12:04] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[12:06] <ksivaji> jussi01     ardchoille Jucato   http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26982/
[12:08] <fritz> hey, can any1 tell me how to mount a immage?
[12:10] <fritz> hey, can any1 tell me how to mount a immage?...vdi....
[12:10] <ksivaji> fritz wait
[12:11] <jussi01> !mount
[12:11] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Kubuntu, go to System Settings -> Advanced Tab -> Disks & Filesystem. See also !fstab and !DiskMounter
[12:11] <ardchoille> sudo mount -o loop -t iso9660 /path/file.iso /path/mountpoint   ?
[12:11] <hnsn> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VDI
[12:12] <Jucato> !ISO
[12:12] <ubotu> To mount an ISO disc image, type  sudo mount -o loop <ISO-filename> <mountpoint>  - There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion - Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before !burning.
[12:13] <fritz> it's not iso. it\s a hdd image from virtual box... it's .vdi
[12:14] <hnsn> vmware player?
[12:14] <fritz> it's called myxp.vdi
[12:14] <fritz> can any1 give me the command lines 4 the console
[12:14] <fritz> ?
[12:15] <fritz> i'm running windows in virtual box...perhaps how to load the other partitons in the win sistem while i'm running it?
[12:24] <ksivaji> jussi01 are u thre
[12:25] <ksivaji> jussi01 are u there
[12:25] <jussi01> ksivaji: yes..
[12:26] <jussi01> ksivaji: whats up?
[12:26] <ksivaji> onemore problem when i save text file a backup is created for that with same name i dont want that
[12:27] <jussi01> ksivaji: its normal, it will go away after a while...
[12:32] <ksivaji> jussi01 ya i got updates
[12:33] <jussi01> :)
[12:33] <ksivaji>  apt-get source hello where hello will be saved
[12:34] <fritz> boy...this help channel is not what it used 2 be
[12:34] <fritz> more likely like the channel of unanswered questions  ^.^
[12:35] <ksivaji> jussi01 E: Could not open file /var/lib/apt/lists/ftp.iitm.ac.in_ubuntu_dists_feisty_restricted_source_Sources - open (2 No such file or directory)
[12:36] <ksivaji> jussi01 are u there
[12:37] <ksivaji> jussi01
[12:41] <ksivaji> whether wget provides resume supports ?
[12:42] <ManiDhillon> !wine amd64
[12:42] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about wine amd64 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:42] <ManiDhillon> !wine
[12:42] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[12:44] <ManiDhillon> After installing WINE hich command should i issue? Is this "winecfg" ?
[12:45] <ManiDhillon> After installing WINE hich command should i issue? Is this "winecfg" ?
[12:46] <ksivaji> ManiDhillon http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Feisty#How_to_Install_Wine
[12:47] <ksivaji> http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Feisty#How_to_run_programs_in_Wine
[12:48] <ManiDhillon> ksivaji But i've done all this. Now when i click on any EXE file i got logged out!
[12:49] <ksivaji> ManiDhillon try "wine /exepath/file.exe" in terminal
[12:51] <ManiDhillon> ksivaji I've even tried that before but i logged out each time! May it is due to 64 bit Kubuntu!
[12:51] <ksivaji> ManiDhillon sorry i dont know for me it works fine
[12:52] <ksivaji> ManiDhillon have you tried #ubuntu
[12:52] <ManiDhillon> ksivaji Are you using Kubuntu?
[12:52] <ksivaji> ues
[12:52] <ksivaji> yes
[12:53] <ksivaji> 64bit pc but i386 kubuntu
[12:53] <ManiDhillon> ksivaji Can you send me your  sources.list file?
[12:53] <ksivaji> ya
[12:54] <ManiDhillon> Okay then send me your sources.list file at<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[12:55] <ksivaji> ManiDhillon http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26984/
[12:56] <ManiDhillon> ksivaji What is this bro?
[12:58] <ksivaji>  ManiDhillon where is it bro i dont know
[12:58] <ksivaji> ManiDhillon i cant receive that file why
[12:59] <ManiDhillon> ksivaji Its an example that you send me your source file directoly.
[01:00] <ksivaji> ManiDhillon take from that link and paste
[01:01] <ManiDhillon> ksivaji Okay thanks anyway!
[01:02] <gemidjy> is there front end for editing fstab, a friend of mine asks he needs to set mount-point for another hdd but preferably via GUI app.
[01:03] <t1g3r> hey guys just installed kubuntu on me lappy
[01:03] <ksivaji> fine
[01:03] <t1g3r> tryna connect it to my pc so it can share the internet connection on the pc...to download and install packages
[01:03] <t1g3r> pc has windows on it, any idea where i can start?
[01:03] <t1g3r> linked them both up with a crossover cable
[01:04] <ksivaji> t1g3r use switch and connect via cross cable
[01:05] <gemidjy> t1g3r: you want one of the computers to be Router?
[01:05] <t1g3r> yea actually thatd be nice, the pc
[01:05] <t1g3r> well i dont have a switch or a hub u see
[01:05] <gemidjy> then set the IP of the other computers and as router IP set the IP of the PC
[01:06] <t1g3r> that an idea
[01:06] <ManiDhillon> I'm gonna reinstall WINE! May be this time it will work.
[01:06] <t1g3r> the pc is connected to the net via a usb modem
[01:08] <t1g3r> can someone give me the link to the wiki page for kubuntu pls?
[01:09] <ksivaji> t1g3r do u have cross cable with you
[01:12] <ManiDhillon> !limewire
[01:12] <ManiDhillon> !limewire
[01:12] <ubotu> limewire is a popular P2P client running on the Gnutella network. To get it running, install !java first, then download Limewire from http://www.limewire.com/LimeWireSoftOther and finally run runLime.sh. Consider !FrostWire as an alternative.
[01:12] <ManiDhillon> !LimeWire
[01:12] <t1g3r> yes ksivaji i have a xover cable connected between them atm
[01:12] <ksivaji> !botabuse | ManiDhillon
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[01:13] <ksivaji> t1g3r both the system are switch on or not ?
[01:14] <t1g3r> no they are connected ad hoc
[01:15] <ksivaji> t1g3r try #ubuntu
[01:15] <t1g3r> fair enough
[01:15] <t1g3r> cheers
[01:20] <Entheogen> guys can I "make" OS X-like KControl in distro other than kubuntu?
[01:22] <fdoving> Entheogen: yes, just use system settings. it's in KDEs svn.
[01:24] <Entheogen> it means i have to compile kde from scratch?
[01:24] <fdoving> Entheogen: no, you might need to compile a simple app from scratch.
[01:25] <Entheogen> thanks
[01:26] <AokiShinya> Hi. I'm wondering... How can I check if there's a missing driver I need to install using kubuntu?
[01:35] <Pupeno> !mp3
[01:35] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[01:42] <Contrast> Greets, everyone...
[01:42] <Contrast> Does anyone know how to disable the sound system from the commandline?
[01:47] <Pupeno> !mp3
[01:47] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[01:55] <omega__> hy to all
[01:55] <chrisloukas> heloo
[01:55] <chrisloukas> hello
[01:56] <omega__> can anybody tell me how can instal my nvidia video card
[01:56] <omega__> ?
[01:56] <SlimeyPete> use adept to install nvidia-glx.
[01:57] <SlimeyPete> assuming you want 3D support
[01:57] <omega__> yes
[01:58] <omega__> tanks
[01:58] <omega__> slimey
[01:58] <SlimeyPete> no problem
[02:02] <omega__> i have another question
[02:03] <omega__> i am new in kubuntu
[02:03] <omega__> i hope i not gone upset u slimey
[02:04] <omega__> my amarok   player don't play my mp3 file
[02:04] <omega__> can u tel me why?
[02:05] <Sanne> !mp3 | omega__
[02:05] <ubotu> omega__: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[02:07] <omega__> tanks again
[02:08] <Sanne> omega__: good luck :)
[02:18] <omega__> and how can i get beryl :)
[02:18] <SlimeyPete> http://wiki.beryl-project.org/index.php/Install/Ubuntu
[02:18] <Jucato> !beryl | omega__
[02:18] <ubotu> omega__: beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. Help in #ubuntu-effects
[02:18] <SlimeyPete> just bear in mind that kubuntu uses adept rather than synaptic
[02:20] <|Karti|> omega__: Type sudo apt-get install beryl-manager into a a konsole and it should work
[02:22] <|Karti|> brb
[02:22] <tomaz> hey, i'm trying to follow the steps on techbase.kde.org to start trying to build from svn
[02:22] <tomaz> and there's one step that asks me to copy my .bashrc , but i have no bashrc in my home directory.
[02:22] <tomaz> what do i need to do ?
[02:24] <Linux_Galore> tomaz: you wont see the .bashrc  file by default
[02:24] <Linux_Galore> tomaz: there whats called a "dot file" or hidden file
[02:24] <tomaz> i know galore
[02:24] <tomaz> but on bash, i write 'locate bashrc'
[02:24] <Linux_Galore> tomaz: if you login to the user account a bashrc file is created from a default copy
[02:25] <tomaz> and it locates all bashrc from my previous kubuntu installation (6.10)
[02:25] <tomaz> but not from my 7.04
[02:25] <tomaz> if i write 'vim .bashrc' , it creates an empty file
[02:25] <Linux_Galore> tomaz: duh
[02:25] <tomaz> ?
[02:26] <Linux_Galore> tomaz: vim is just an editor it doesnt do anything but edit text files
[02:26] <tomaz> and bashrc is a text file
[02:26] <tomaz> so , if i ask it to open .bashrc , and it opens a blank document
[02:26] <tomaz> it's because it doesn't exist.
[02:27] <nosrednaekim> tomaz: I see what you are saying....I always had a bashrc file by default
[02:27] <Linux_Galore> tomaz: no if you try open .bashrc  "dont forget the dot"  it will open the correct file 1 if you in your home directory for that user 2. it exists otherwise it just opens a balnk
[02:27] <Linux_Galore> blank file*
[02:28] <tomaz> tomaz@shiva:~$ vim .bashrc
[02:28] <tomaz> = blank file
[02:28] <Linux_Galore> tomaz: vim ~/.bashrc
[02:29] <tomaz> but im on ~!
[02:29] <tomaz> tomaz@shiva:~$ vim ~/.bashrc = blank file too
[02:29] <Linux_Galore> tomaz: if there is no bashrc a user hasnt logged into that account
[02:29] <tomaz> i'm logged now!
[02:30] <tomaz> it's my primary account.
[02:30] <Linux_Galore> ls .bashrc*   .bashrc
[02:30] <Linux_Galore> ls .bashrc*
[02:30] <Linux_Galore> .bashrc
[02:31] <Linux_Galore> oops
[02:31] <tomaz> ok.. i will paste the contents of 'locate bashrc' on pastebin
[02:32] <Linux_Galore> tomaz: bash when its run for the "first time" with any new user account install some defauls file in the home directory, they are always there
[02:32] <tomaz> i will take a screenshoot, if you don't belive me =p
[02:32] <Linux_Galore> tomaz: you can stand on your head, Ive admined 1,000's of machines and its always there
[02:33] <tomaz> http://pastebin.ca/587263
[02:33] <tomaz> see the pastbin
[02:34] <Linux_Galore> tomaz: run  sudo updatedb
[02:34] <Linux_Galore> tomaz: then do locate .bashrc
[02:34] <tomaz> i did that 5 minutes ago Galore =/
[02:35] <tomaz> there's a way to 'recreate' the bashrc?
[02:36] <Linux_Galore> tomaz: looks like you have deleted it logout and back in a new one is created
[02:37] <omega__> can u tell me about the decoders for kafeine,slimey?
[02:37] <tomaz> the one thing that i'v done, is that when i installed i swapped the partitions (/home and /data), , so after botting for the 1st time, i edited the /etc/fstab to swap them both
[02:37] <SlimeyPete> omega__: sorry, I don't use kaffeine
[02:38] <tomaz> and after that i dont have my .bashrc, the thing is, i'v turned the power down and up and logged many times , and the bashrc isn't created at all.
[02:38] <Linux_Galore> tomaz: just copy one of the other user account bashrc files over then type  chown username .bashrc
[02:39] <Linux_Galore> tomaz: they are all the same unless you manually edit them
[02:40] <tomaz> ah, thanks. ;)
[02:44] <Zeata> jmd hier der mir bei meiner ersten linux erfahrung helfen kann?
[02:45] <paolo>  hi. where's the file associated to the command "history"? thnks
[02:45] <nosrednaekim> paolo: .basj_history
[02:45] <SlimeyPete> paolo: ~/.bash_history
[02:45] <nosrednaekim> *.bash_history
[02:46] <kukukuku> hi
[02:47] <Pupeno> Does anybody know how to make the F1-F12 the default keys in MacBookPro, and the multimedia/function keys require pressing the fn key?
[02:47] <kukukuku> can some pl tell me how to detect motherboard my computer is running on
[02:47] <kukukuku> dems ??
[02:47] <kukukuku> desmg ?
[02:47] <Pupeno> kukukuku: what do you mean by detect?
[02:47] <kukukuku> i need to what is model of mother board my hardware vendor has given me
[02:48] <Pupeno> kukukuku: I think the easiest way would be opening the case and looking inside, I've never found a way to do it in software (although it may exists, of course).
[02:50] <nosrednaekim> kukukuku: sometimes lshw does it.
[02:51] <micman> Jucato:  i got ncurses lib error when i install prozilla
[02:51] <Jucato> micman: sorry I don't know anything about that
[02:54] <micman> i got ncurses lib error when i install prozilla  is there anyone to help me
[02:55] <Sanne> micman: what error? (paste to paste.ubuntu-nl.org if multiple lines)
[02:55] <micman> configure: error: **A (n)curses library was not found. The program needs ncurses to run, Ncurses is freely available at : ftp://ftp.gnu.org/pub/gnu **
[02:56] <Pupeno> micman: install libncurses-dev or something like that.
[02:56] <Sanne> micman: so you're compiling? If so, you need some *-dev libs.
[02:56] <Sanne> :)
[02:57] <micman> Pupeno ya i am downloading that
[02:57] <Sanne> micman: don't, just install the package from the ubuntu repositories
[02:57] <grul> !mp3
[02:57] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[02:58] <micman> Sanne ok what else to be done
[02:59] <omega__>  computers
[02:59] <Pupeno> micman: never install anything that is not packaged unless you know what you are doing or wish to learn.
[02:59] <Sanne> micman: you never should install software from the net if it's already available in the repositories, precompiled for you and fitting into your system. How do you install normally, with adept, synaptic, or apt-get on the command line?
[03:00] <omega__> how can i share my data in the network whit my friends
[03:01] <omega__> it's my personal network
[03:01] <omega__> the others have win sp
[03:02] <Sanne> micman: ok, so I'll tell you for the command line. (I hope it's the correct package) try first: sudo apt-get install libncurses5-dev
[03:02] <SlimeyPete> omega__: you can use windows file sharing (samba). Try searching ubuntuguide.comor the ubuntu forums.
[03:02] <SlimeyPete> !samba
[03:02] <ubotu> samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[03:03] <micman> Sanne ya i done that
[03:03] <Sanne> micman: ah, good. Do you still get the error when configuring prozilla?
[03:03] <omega__> thanks to all
[03:04] <micman> Sanne thank you i installed that
[03:04] <micman> thanks a lot
[03:04] <Sanne> micman: you might want to bookmark this page and give it a read, when you have time: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoftwareManagement
[03:04] <micman> ok
[03:05] <Sanne> micman: ah, so it worked? That's nice :)
[03:05] <micman> Sanne because of you
[03:05] <micman> ok bye
[03:05] <Sanne> micman: glad to help :)
[03:05] <Sanne> bye
[03:06] <BluesKaj> !prozilla
[03:06] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about prozilla - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:07] <nosrednaekim> omega__: if you only want to shareyour data with freinds... you can use kpf
[03:07] <grul> !love
[03:07] <ubotu> Love is like racing across the frozen tundra on a snowmobile which flips over, trapping you underneath. At night, the ice-weasels come.
[03:07] <nosrednaekim> what the.......
[03:08] <nosrednaekim> it should have ....... at the end
[03:09] <nosrednaekim> omega__: you still here?
[03:13] <omega__> yes nosrednaekim
[03:13] <deloun> Hi, I installed kde4base-dev but it wont start the toolbar shows up first and after that all turns black and it returns to the login screen, is this a known problemor does it work fine with any of you?
[03:13] <omega__> i'm still here
[03:14] <gnomefreak> deloun: what do you need the -dev package for?
[03:14] <deloun> to try out kde4, it's mentioned on the kubuntu page
[03:15] <deloun> gnomefreak: look here: http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde4-alpha1.php
[03:15] <gnomefreak> ah thats right it is needed to remove the older qt packages
[03:15] <kukukuku> is there any graphical partition mounter on kubuntu ?
[03:15] <gnomefreak> deloun: im a few steps ahead of you but thank you :)
[03:16] <nosrednaekim> omega__: you can use kpf if you just want to share files on your computer with your friends
[03:16] <deloun> gnomefreak: just to show you what i was talking about
[03:16] <nosrednaekim> kukukuku: yep... system settings-> hardware-> partition editor
[03:16] <gnomefreak> deloun: what one of the 2 last bullets did you use?
[03:17] <nosrednaekim> omega__: its far easier than samba
[03:17] <deloun> gnomefreak: The last one; I added it as a session
[03:17] <deloun> And put the export lines in the kde4 bin
[03:17] <feierfox> hello
[03:18] <feierfox> how to activate the ATI driver in kubuntu?
[03:18] <feierfox> the wiki shows only the way for ubuntu
[03:18] <gnomefreak> deloun: that would be why. i personally after testing dont feel its ready for full X yet as alot of things are still broken.
[03:18] <deloun> feierfox: the same as in ubuntu
[03:18] <gnomefreak> feierfox: its same
[03:18] <nosrednaekim> omega__: http://nosrednaekim.wordpress.com/2007/06/23/easy-cross-platform-file-sharing-with-kpf/
[03:19] <feierfox> i cant find the issue in the menue
[03:19] <|Robbe|> Is it possible to reinstall over a feisty 64bit with a feisty 32bit, while keeping the settings ?
[03:19] <nosrednaekim> feierfox: in order to mimic ubuntu's version.... you have to install "restricted-manager"
[03:19] <gnomefreak> Zechs: no
[03:19] <feierfox> oh ha
[03:19] <Zechs> gnomefreak : complete reinstall ?
[03:20] <gnomefreak> Zechs: backup ~/ and see if you can use them but you would either need a new partiton to install to reinstall over 64bit or vmware or chroot
[03:21] <gnomefreak> Zechs: maybe you can install the 386 kernel but there is no telling if anything will work since all your libs are for 64
[03:22] <binks> Ryiel did you help me with kaffeine b4
[03:22] <JEANMASS> hi
[03:22] <JEANMASS> since i updated amarok with backport rep
[03:23] <Zechs> gnomefreak : I've tried installing those libs, but it just won't accept running both, kinda sad cause it prevents me from using firefox with flash and playing alpha centauri
[03:23] <JEANMASS> i can't listen to lastfm radios
[03:23] <Zechs> gnomefreak : I'll just reinstall, it'll take some time to setup again, but it'll be beter that way
[03:23] <gnomefreak> Zechs: use gnash it works great here, i have backport for newest gnash 0.8.0
[03:24] <Zechs> gnomefreak : I've tried it, doesn't work here
[03:24] <JEANMASS> any idea?
[03:24] <gnomefreak> Zechs: than you didnt get it from my repo ;)
[03:24] <Zechs> jeanmass: do you have the right ports open ?
[03:24] <Zechs> gnomefreak : what repo is that ?
[03:25] <gnomefreak> !moztest | Zechs
[03:25] <ubotu> Zechs: The Mozilla-testing repos can be found at: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MozillaTeam/PreviewArchives. Please remember these are testing repos, the packages in these repos are not stable and may break things on your system. Use with caution. Please report bugs found from these packages to: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MozillaTeam/PreviewArchives/Bugs.
[03:25] <gnomefreak> Zechs: give me a minute and ill get you somewhere else to get it from without updating everything
[03:25] <JEANMASS> Zechs: it worked before upgrading
[03:26] <Zechs> gnomefreak : ok, thanks, that would be great :-)
[03:26] <gnomefreak> Zechs: get it from http://people.ubuntu.com/~asac/gnash-feisty/ its the same build but prevents you from updating alot of the testing stuff
[03:27] <gnomefreak> Zechs: you want gnash and mozilla-plugin-gnash
[03:27] <gnomefreak> you might need the libs as well
[03:27] <JEANMASS> i get this error msg
[03:27] <JEANMASS> No suitable input plugin. This often means that the url's protocol is not supported. Network failures are other possible causes.
[03:27] <Zechs> jeanmass : and there were no port changes of that program, and you configured it right ?
[03:28] <JEANMASS> i havent touched it since the upgrade
[03:28] <JEANMASS> however to be able to use the backport repos
[03:28] <Zechs> gnomefreak : I'll wget them, so that the dependancies come with it as well, or just get it trough the adapt manager :-)
[03:29] <enzo_> Is there an issue with Beryl on Feisty?
[03:29] <enzo_> I keep getting a white screen
[03:29] <Milux> hello, i've a problem with codific UTF-8, i can't see ... from other user. What i do? I use kvirc 3.2.4
[03:29] <JEANMASS> i need Updates and Security repos
[03:30] <JEANMASS> i am not sure if those too are available
[03:30] <feierfox> ok, i installed the restricted-manager, but where is it in my menue?
[03:30] <Milux> nobody use kvirc?
[03:31] <JEANMASS> security is important security updates in the update tabs in adept repositories manager?
[03:31] <Zechs> Milux : I am right now
[03:32] <Zechs> jeanmass : have you refreshed your repos, and checked for updates ?  if there are new ones they should pop up
[03:32] <BluesKaj> kvirc is ok, just a bit confusing for these old eyes ...graphics are too busy
[03:32] <Zechs> jeanmass : if you've enabled the universe stuff ofcourse
[03:32] <Zechs> blueskaj : in what way ?
[03:33] <Zechs> blueskaj : do you also go by the name Blue-Sky by any chance ?
[03:33] <JEANMASS> yes
[03:33] <BluesKaj> more like blues-ky
[03:34] <BluesKaj> a play on words , i suppose, Zechs
[03:34] <adaptr> or pune
[03:34] <Zechs> jeanmass : well then I guess there either aren't any new ones or you should add a repos list like freshrpms that has them on board
[03:34] <Zechs> BluesKaj : hehe, nice play :-)
[03:35] <Zechs> BluesKaj : thought we might have met on a board called userbase, that's why I asked
[03:35] <JEANMASS> but i've just installed the latest version of amarok!
[03:35] <BluesKaj> yeah, i find all fonts , colours, differnt graphics distracting on kvirc
[03:36] <BluesKaj> no Zechs , i'm a relative newb to linux ...been only a yr or so
[03:36] <Zechs> jeanmass : sorry, got a bit distracted, perhaps you might try flipping your security and seeing if it affects it, which would indicate your sollution
[03:37] <JEANMASS> flipping my sec??
[03:37] <JEANMASS> how ?
[03:37] <Zechs> BluesKaj : I've been using it for a couple of years, and I wouldn't call myself an expert either ;-)
[03:37] <Zechs> BluesKaj : You just learn along the way
[03:38] <Zechs> BluesKaj : I guess Kvirc just has to grow on you, like kde :-)
[03:38] <Zechs> jeanmass : selinux ?
[03:38] <BluesKaj> yup, that's why i hang out here a lot ... old , retired and still learning :)
[03:38] <JEANMASS> selinux????
[03:38] <JEANMASS> chinessE?
[03:39] <Zechs> jeanmass : selinux = the module that enables your security,
[03:39] <Zechs> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SELinux
[03:39] <JEANMASS> i dont think i ve it
[03:39] <JEANMASS> is default?
[03:40] <Zechs> BluesKaj : learning ain't that bad, it keeps you from forgetting (too much)
[03:40] <kukukuku> is there any graphical partition mounter on kubuntu ?
[03:40] <kukukuku> is there any graphical partition mounter on kubuntu ?
[03:41] <Zechs> kukuku : QT
[03:41] <kukukuku> qt c++ lib ??
[03:41] <Zechs> jeanmass : thought so, but I'm not so sure, you wanna browse through the faq, I might be confussing server and desktop environments
[03:42] <Zechs> kukuku : otherwise try gparted, it's for gnome, but works quite nicely as well under kde
[03:43] <Zechs> kukuku : ps do you know this one ? http://www.kde-apps.org/
[03:44] <BluesKaj> kukukuku, what about sys/settings/advanced/disk&filesystems/admin mode
[03:45] <JEANMASS> thanx for the help
[03:45] <JEANMASS> cheers
[03:47] <Zechs> kukukuku : kdesu qtparted and/or gksudo gparted
[03:47] <Zechs> kukukuku : sudo apt-get install qtparted
[03:49] <Pupeno2> !mp3
[03:49] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[03:55] <enzo_> How do you restart KDE in command line?
[03:56] <enzo_> I am trying to kill beryl, but sudo killall beryl keeps me in beryl's desktop manager
[03:56] <enzo_> I can't do anything with white desktops
[03:57] <fritz> where can i get some kick-ass themes for kubuntu?
[03:57] <Zechs> http://www.kde-look.org/
[03:57] <pag> fritz, kde-look.org ?
[03:57] <fritz> and how do you install them? :-/
[03:58] <Zechs> download them, and add them trought the graphical interface
[03:58] <pag> !theme
[03:58] <ubotu> Find your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://art.gnome.org - http://www.kde-look.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy
[03:58] <Zechs> their are podcasts that also explain this, you might want to google them up
[03:59] <BluesKaj> someone was mentioning KPF as a easy way to share files over the net with friends , ..synaptic says it's installed , but it's not available using all the usual methods to call it up ...any ideas or suggestions ?
[03:59] <fritz> where is the themes buton on kubuntu? ^.^
[04:00] <Zechs> check your system configuration
[04:00] <BluesKaj> fritz, look in system settings/appearance
[04:01] <jhutchins> !changethemes
[04:01] <ubotu> To change your themes, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy.  Kubuntu users should visit https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CustomizeKubuntu.
[04:02] <BluesKaj> jhutchins, do you know anything about kpf ?
[04:02] <fritz> isn't there a way to load it all at once?
[04:03] <jhutchins> BluesKaj: sorry, never heard of it.
[04:03] <BluesKaj> ok np :)
[04:04] <omega__> hy again to all
[04:04] <draik> !beryl
[04:04] <ubotu> beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. Help in #ubuntu-effects
[04:04] <fritz> isn't there a way to load it all at once?
[04:05] <pag> fritz, do you want to download *all* the themes from kde-look?
[04:06] <fritz> no, i downloaded the theme
[04:06] <jhutchins> BluesKaj: dpkg -L kpf -- too bad you can't do rpm -qd kpf and find the docs.
[04:06] <fritz> and want to set it all up at once
[04:06] <fritz> colors, wallpaper..windows style:P
[04:06] <jhutchins> fritz: Did you read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy
[04:06] <BluesKaj> thx jhutchins, i could use alien , but i don't need it that badly :)
[04:07] <jhutchins> fritz: or https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CustomizeKubuntu
[04:07] <jhutchins> BluesKaj: alien probably wouldn't help.
[04:09] <BluesKaj> jhutchins, strange that kpf is listed as installed on synpatic tho
[04:09] <jhutchins> BluesKaj: dpkg -L kpf
[04:10] <jhutchins> BluesKaj: It's fairly common that servers which can provide serious systems vulnerability require that you track down the config file and take some extra steps to start them.
[04:11] <dale> Hello
[04:11] <BluesKaj> I think it's part of the file sharing server, ...did a konq search and it looks like kpf is "part" of the the network file server
[04:12] <ubuntu_> hi, I userd kubuntu livecd to boot in a notebook that is with some dab blocks, The qtparted see the nfts partiton, but I cant mount it. Any recommendation
[04:12] <draik> Anyone here having issues with their nvidia driver?
[04:12] <draik> I can't seem to get the smooth effects ever since the upgrade from edgy to feisty
[04:17] <BluesKaj> eye candy ... far more trouble than it's worth
[04:18] <draik> BluesKaj: I can see that now, but I didn't have this issue with Edgy
[04:18] <ubuntu_> hi, I userd kubuntu livecd to boot in a notebook that is with some dab blocks, The qtparted see the nfts partiton, but I cant mount it. Any recommendation
[04:19] <draik> !mount
[04:19] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Kubuntu, go to System Settings -> Advanced Tab -> Disks & Filesystem. See also !fstab and !DiskMounter
[04:21] <ubuntu_> tks
[04:26] <BluesKaj> !DiskMounter
[04:26] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - See also !fuse
[04:29] <draik> How do you do the video test again?
[04:29] <draik> I forgot the command
[04:29] <draik> It's the one with the 3 gears
[04:30] <BluesKaj> glxgears
[04:30] <draik> Tried it. Not it
[04:30] <draik> seems that I'm missing glx
[04:31] <draik> :(
[04:31] <aabrahao> mount code 32, mount failure
[04:32] <BluesKaj> draik for fglrx drivers it's fgl_glxgears in the terminal
[04:32] <draik> Not that either
[04:33] <draik> command not found
[04:33] <BluesKaj> sudo aptitude install glxgears
[04:33] <Arwen> BlueDevil, that's 'apt-get isntall mesa-utils'
[04:34] <Arwen> apt-get install mesa-utils even
[04:34] <draik> can't find package glxgears
[04:34] <Arwen> draik, the package is "mesa-utils"
[04:34] <BluesKaj> yup, that's it
[04:34] <draik> mesa-utils is already the newest version
[04:34] <Arwen> then you should have glxgears
[04:35] <Dr_willis> fglx_gears i thought
[04:35] <Dr_willis> glx<tab> --->  glxdemo   glxgears  glxheads  glxinfo
[04:35] <BluesKaj> draik, are you typing in the terminal/konsole
[04:35] <draik> BluesKaj: Yes
[04:36] <BluesKaj> what graphics driver/card , draik ?
[04:36] <draik> nVidia GeForce 5700LE
[04:36] <draik> 256MB
[04:36] <draik> if that matters
[04:36] <Arwen> draik, not really
[04:36] <Arwen> anyway, why are we discussing glxgears? it's not a benchmark.
[04:37] <martik> hi everybody
[04:37] <BluesKaj> then glxgears should be it , not the fglrx version
[04:37] <Minataku> Morning, Dr_willis
[04:37] <draik> Arwen: I can't get Beryl to work and I don't have the drivers as I used to with Edgy (Feisty now)
[04:37] <Arwen> I mean, I get 9000 fps in glxgears... but I get 30fps in quake, so...
[04:37] <Arwen> draik, are there any errors? sorry to interrupt.
[04:38] <draik> Arwen: No. It just turns my screen all white. I get nothing
[04:38] <Arwen> ah, that bug :-)
[04:38] <draik> I had to uninstall beryl just to get a usable GUI again
[04:38] <Dr_willis> 16838 frames in 5.0 seconds = 3367.582 FPS
[04:38] <Arwen> draik, set your render path to copy, or use "beryl --force aiglx"
[04:39] <draik> Arwen: Do what/where?
[04:39] <Arwen> ................
[04:39] <BluesKaj> fgl_glxfears on ati cards gives a rotating cube with 3 rotating gears on each side ...dunno what glxgears does on nvidia
[04:39] <BluesKaj> err fgl_glxgears :)
[04:39] <Arwen> 25030 frames in 5.0 seconds = 5005.975 FPS -- glxgears is useless
[04:39] <Dr_willis> glxgears is just the old fps tester tool
[04:39] <Dr_willis> Better test then running.. say.. gltron :)
[04:39] <draik> Arwen: what do you need me to do
[04:40] <Minataku> Dr_willis: I'm sure it's far easier in non-ultra-simple distros
[04:40] <Pupeno> glxgears is not a performance testing tool.
[04:40] <Dr_willis> Minataku,  aint you just a leetist. :)
[04:40] <Arwen> draik... open a terminal, run "beryl --force aiglx"
[04:40] <pacman> any idea what I need to do to get my seagate external hard drive to work?  I'm not seeing it anywhere on my box
[04:40] <Arwen> or just use compiz, BERYL IS FUCKING DEAD
[04:40] <Dr_willis> Minataku,  its far easier to just not be addicted to silly eyecandy. ;)
[04:40] <draik> Arwen: I removed beryl
[04:40] <PriceChild> !ohmy | Arwen
[04:40] <ubotu> Arwen: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[04:40] <Arwen> yes yes, sorry, geez...
[04:40] <draik> Install beryl again?
[04:40] <PriceChild> Arwen, compiz fusion is alive though
[04:40] <Minataku> Dr_willis: Like I am as well :D
[04:40] <Minataku> I use Fluxbox
[04:41] <BluesKaj> the fgl_glxgears test is for 3D and DRI on ati cards ...which is required to run apps like google earth etc
[04:41] <Dr_willis> I cant even keep up with the Beryl/Glx/compwiz stuff...
[04:41] <Arwen> forget it, ask someone else
[04:41] <Minataku> Dr_willis: I don't bother with any of it
[04:41] <Arwen> fgl_glxgears is ATI's take on glxgears... which is just as useless
[04:41] <Minataku> I'm of the mind that the WM should just manage windows
[04:41] <Minataku> Period
[04:41] <Minataku> Well, and launch apps
[04:41] <Arwen> Minataku, compiz does manage windows!
[04:41] <Arwen> it just manages them in a prettier way!
[04:42] <Minataku> I feel the UI should do what it needs to do while staying out of the way
[04:42] <Dr_willis> like DOS! :)
[04:42] <Minataku> Window decorations, slit with clock
[04:42] <Minataku> That's it
[04:43] <Arwen> Minataku, hint: compiz/beryl are FASTER than metacity/kwin
[04:43] <draik> well, I ran what Arwen said, but I can't use beryl it goes back to KDE.
[04:43] <BluesKaj> Arwen, not useless, 3D and DRI is a requirement to run google earth and other graphically intense apps
[04:43] <Minataku> Arwen: Not here they're not
[04:43] <Arwen> BluesKaj, no, but fgl_glxgears is useless
[04:43] <Minataku> They're 1000x slower
[04:43] <Arwen> Minataku, they're FASTER.
[04:43] <Minataku> Arwen: No, they are NOT.
[04:43] <Arwen> hint: they're 3d *accelerated*
[04:43] <Arwen> metacity and kwin use software rendering to draw stuff
[04:44] <Minataku> Arwen: Hint: I DON'T HAVE 3D ACCELERATION
[04:44] <Arwen> then go buy a computer!
[04:44] <Arwen> *duh*
[04:44] <BluesKaj> well Arwen, it's an indicator that your drivers are up to snuff .
[04:44] <PriceChild> Lets all calm down please....
[04:44] <Arwen> yes, let's
[04:44] <Arwen> Minataku, and hint: you're in the minority
[04:44] <Minataku> I have a Trident card, there's hardly even Windows drivers for it
[04:45] <Dr_willis> with tv tuner even; :)
[04:45] <Minataku> Dr_willis: 1. Laptop. 2.  All the changes that I[m doing wull be list, because I'm using a live cd in a cdrw, right?
[04:45] <Minataku> And FYI, X11 drawing methods are extremely fast on this system
[04:45] <Arwen> Dr_willis, All in Wonder? lol...
[04:45] <Minataku> Dr_willis: :P
[04:45] <BluesKaj> Minataku, what brand pc or di you drop it in yerself ?
[04:45] <Dr_willis> Arwen,  yep - had it for years.
[04:45] <Minataku> BluesKaj: Older Toshiba laptop
[04:45] <Arwen> Minataku, start shoving moving windows around in circles, they *should* tear
[04:45] <Minataku> 2003
[04:46] <Minataku> Nice, powerful P4 but a lousy video card
[04:46] <Arwen> P4 != powerful, lol
[04:46] <Dr_willis> compared to my Pent3 laptop.. yes. it is.
[04:46] <Arwen> and wow, did Intel graphics not exist then?
[04:46] <Minataku> Arwen: Please shut up, your input is not wanted
[04:46] <Arwen> Minataku, Please shut up, your input is not wanted
[04:46] <PriceChild> Minataku, pm me please.
[04:46] <Dr_willis> I got a Pent 1 - 100 laptop also..
[04:47] <BluesKaj> any word on the next Kubuntu having better support for 64bit hardware ?
[04:47] <Arwen> BluesKaj, define "better". It runs on it, is that not enough?
[04:48] <PanzerMKZ> you compare hardware but do you really use that old hardware
[04:48] <Arwen> nope, we're just reminiscing
[04:48] <Minataku> This is my current system
[04:49] <PanzerMKZ> I have here a p3 450. in use and running 24/7
[04:49] <Minataku> I don't buy a new computer every year
[04:49] <BluesKaj> the sound card on my amd 64 wasn't supported on the last offering as an example ...no matter what , I couldn't find drivers that worked
[04:49] <Minataku> I keep them running for at least 5 years
[04:49] <Arwen> BluesKaj, was it proprietary hardware?
[04:49] <Arwen> drivers are a known issue on 64-bit
[04:49] <Minataku> BluesKaj: Nobody's even making Windows x64 drivers
[04:50] <PanzerMKZ> later folks
[04:50] <BluesKaj> yes , onboard realtek
[04:51] <Minataku> I just realized, people talk about how "moving windows around" and such is slow
[04:51] <morg0th> hi all =)
[04:51] <Minataku> I hardly EVER move windows around
[04:51] <Minataku> I put them in one place and leave them there
[04:51] <BluesKaj> the x86 works well for this current setup , was merely curious about the next kubuntu release
[04:51] <Dr_willis> i tend to fullscreen everything and alt-tab or whatver around.
[04:52] <Minataku> I use one screen and multiple workspaces
[04:52] <Dr_willis> I gotta go get another monitor. having 2 was so handy. Id have to find a nother wall mount bracket however.
[04:52] <Minataku> Switching between workspaces causes nothing more than a momentary blip as the contents are blitted back into the VRAM
[04:52] <Dr_willis> Mounting the LCD to the wall is DARN handy :)  freed up a lot of desk space.. enough for a .. 2nd monitor. :)
[04:53] <Arwen> hehe, I run dual-head by salvaging old CRTs :-\
[04:53] <Arwen> costs a lot in energy, but oh well
[04:57] <yourfriend> minatuku >> true about winblowz drivers but who cares. lol
[04:58] <yourfriend> minatuku >> windows stinks either way
[04:58] <Arwen> your windows stink? geez, pay some guy to clean em... or even do it yourself, geez
[04:58] <Arwen> lazy bums
[04:59] <BluesKaj> real glass window so i can see out into our property and see and hear what's going on outside
[05:00] <Arwen> BlueDevil, real Glass Window? Aero!
[05:00] <Arwen> BluesKaj, *
[05:00] <GrahamA> Arwen: And just as fragile as one.
[05:00] <Arwen> hehe, but let's drop the Windows-bashing, it's unprofessional
[05:00] <GrahamA> Sod that it's fun.
[05:00] <Arwen> pah
[05:01] <Arwen> (F/OSS zealots are a bunch of vandals! they smash Windows!)
[05:01] <morg0th> may be anyone help me? when a do "aptitude install", my brouser(Opera & Konqueror) don't make connect on 80 port (Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock  )
[05:01] <BluesKaj> no Arwen , tried vista for one day ...that was enuff for me ... nice eye candy etc but what a clunker :)
[05:01] <Arwen> morg0th, something's still using your apt database
[05:01] <Arwen> do you have adept, another apt, or synaptic running?
[05:02] <GrahamA> I want to convert a windows server that does alot of stuff to linux, web hosting, e-mail, dhcp) but it also managed an active directory domain that i'd like windows machines to still be able to log into, any suggestions for distro, I've been mostly considering either opensuse or debian
[05:02] <Arwen> BluesKaj, actually, I don't have responsiveness issues with Vista, but the increased hard drive cost makes it impossible for me to deploy it :-\
[05:03] <Minataku> yourfriend: It was merely a way of noting that there's hardly any x64 support whatsoever
[05:03] <Arwen> GrahamA, SAMBA can kind of do AD, but I think you're gonna have to stick with Windows Server 2000/2003/2008
[05:03] <yourfriend> Minataku > yes. I understand that and wholeheartedly agree
[05:03] <yourfriend> Minataku > and it does suk
[05:03] <BluesKaj> yeah, unreal space hog  for sure 8gig just for the OS and proprietary apps
[05:04] <Arwen> BluesKaj, yeh, I need to keep my Windows install on a 6GB partition, so Vista is a non-solution for me
[05:04] <Arwen> it is rather nice though
[05:04] <GrahamA> Arwen: I'd just want set shares and to have settings/documents kept on the server.
[05:05] <Arwen> hmm, samba should be able to do that for you, but I don't know. It's always been common sense to me to let Windows handle that Windows stuff.
[05:05] <BluesKaj> XP-SP2 is the best windows app ...if there is such a thing, Arwen ; P
[05:05] <Arwen> hah
[05:05] <Arwen> I liked 2000 better actually.
[05:06] <GrahamA> Arwen: I can't say you've given me alot of hope.
[05:06] <Arwen> meh
[05:06] <Arwen> you can handle smtp/imap and dhcp with Linux though
[05:06] <GrahamA> I know that!
[05:06] <GrahamA> You taty!
[05:06] <morg0th> Arven - thnx! =) may be, but in my Ubuntu I don have it trobels. when I work in Ubuntu, I can update or install with apt & I can work in my brouser together, but in Kubuntu I have it troble ((
[05:07] <Arwen> GAH, WTF, my entire root fs is in my trash
[05:07] <Arwen> wtf?
[05:07] <Arwen> ???
[05:09] <GrahamA> UNLUCKY!
[05:12] <dthacker> Does someone have a link to the pdf version of the Ubuntu book?
[05:13] <solidus126> hello
[05:13] <solidus126> does anyone know how to enable direct rendering?  after de-installing compiz & beryl today I lost direct rendering and am having troubles getting it back up
[05:14] <solidus126> i have my before and after xorg.conf and glxinfo for comparison...
[05:14] <Dr_willis>  troubles getting it back up..... 0_o
[05:15] <Dr_willis> i dident think there was much changes to the xorg.conf for the  compwiz/berly stuff
[05:15] <Dr_willis> try 'diff xorg.old xorg.new' and see?
[05:16] <solidus126> I tried replacing the new with the old, but glxinfo still comes up with no dri enabled, and different results
[05:16] <solidus126> should I PM you the output?
[05:17] <Dr_willis> solidus126,  wont do much good. :) i thought thee was one line that enabled dri in the xorg.conf file
[05:17] <Dr_willis> i cant rember the details however.
[05:17] <solidus126> it is Load "dri" isn't it?
[05:17] <Dr_willis> thats what i thought.
[05:17] <Dr_willis> if its not loading. may want to check the X logs and see if any info stands out as to why.
[05:18] <solidus126> I'll see what I can do
[05:20] <solidus126> bummer... I do have Load "dri" enabled, but no cigar
[05:21] <solidus126> lol I am feeling kinda bad about it, I fixed this problem a week or two ago by putting the Extensions section at the end of xorg.conf but still no dice
[05:22] <solidus126> display: :0.0  screen: 0
[05:22] <solidus126> OpenGL vendor string: ATI Technologies Inc.
[05:22] <solidus126> OpenGL renderer string: ATI Mobility Radeon X1400
[05:22] <solidus126> OpenGL version string: 2.0.6334 (8.34.8)
[05:22] <solidus126> before my fglrxinfo turned that out now it is
[05:22] <solidus126> Xlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0".
[05:22] <solidus126> display: :0.0  screen: 0
[05:22] <solidus126> OpenGL vendor string: Mesa project: www.mesa3d.org
[05:22] <solidus126> OpenGL renderer string: Mesa GLX Indirect
[05:22] <solidus126> OpenGL version string: 1.4 (1.5 Mesa 6.5.2)
[05:23] <solidus126> anyone know what could get it back to the old one?
[05:24] <Dr_willis> Am i confised or is MESA like an Old not used much any more thing?
[05:25] <solidus126>  @Dr_willis yeah I don't think MESA is used much, somehow in removing the Beryl and Compiz it reverted me to it instead of the fglrx
[05:26] <bjwebb> hi
[05:26] <Dr_willis> Yea.. its been so long. i cant rember. Sounds to me like its falling back to the Mesa/Software stuff.
[05:26] <bjwebb> i downloaded the jdk from the sun site
[05:26] <Dr_willis> Ive seen this asked so many times here.. theres proberly a Huge thread on it - on the kubuntu forums.
[05:26] <bjwebb> how do you make an ap run when you just type the name in
[05:26] <kmtsg> How do I change so I play sound from my creative soundcard instead of the one built in the mb?
[05:26] <Dr_willis> bjwebb,  why. :) you can install java from the repos.
[05:26] <bjwebb> i just realised that
[05:26] <bjwebb> i didn't think it would be there
[05:27] <bjwebb> i forgot about the multiverse policy
[05:27] <bjwebb> but its such a big download
[05:27] <Dr_willis> they just GPL'ed it :) hopefully soon it will be included by deault.
[05:27] <solidus126> I am going to scour the forums a bit more, did not have any luck earlier :(
[05:27] <bjwebb> Dr_willis: i hope so
[05:27] <Dr_willis> chmod +x whatever  && ./whatever
[05:27] <Dr_willis> is how ya execute somthing.
[05:27] <bjwebb> no but how to make it run from other directories
[05:28] <Dr_willis> You mean put it in your PATH ?
[05:28] <Dr_willis> copy/link it to one of the dirs in your PATH is one way
[05:28] <Dr_willis> echo $PATH
[05:28] <bjwebb> yes, i think so
[05:28] <Dr_willis> to see your current path.
[05:28] <Dr_willis> java however is special. It has some other enviroment variables it likes set to see where its other files are at. I recall
[05:29] <berserker> alguien que hable espaol?
[05:29] <bjwebb> well this is just javac, rather than the JRE
[05:29] <bjwebb> so where is the path file?
[05:29] <Dr_willis> No idea. I always just use the java from the repos.
[05:29] <Dr_willis> Java's stuff is normally set i recall from the Enviroment variables.
[05:30] <Dr_willis> theres not a 'file' that sets them. i recall.
[05:30] <solstugan> can somone tell me how i completely remove LILO?
[05:31] <solstugan> ;O that man is CRAZY
[05:32] <Dr_willis> remove it and install grub?
[05:32] <Dr_willis> or remove it and isntall the windows boot loader?
[05:33] <solstugan> 1. my windows partition got whole damaged aftar taht i installd kubuntu....
[05:34] <Dr_willis> booting the windows xp cd. and using their 'rescue/recover' shell the command 'fixboot' and/or 'fixmbr' should restore the original windows boot loader.
[05:35] <Dr_willis> Off for lunch.. BBL.
[05:35] <TeraDyne> Dr_Willis, IIRC, it's "fixmbr"
[05:35] <Dr_willis> ive had to use both in some cases.
[05:35] <TeraDyne> shows how messed up it is.
[05:36] <Dr_willis> like their new improved fdisk command.. :)
[05:36] <TeraDyne> True...
[05:36] <depeche> hi there..
[05:36] <berserker> help
[05:37] <TeraDyne> beserker, what do you need help with?
[05:38] <berserker> help???
[05:38] <pag> !ask | berserker
[05:38] <ubotu> berserker: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[05:39] <Milux> someone use kvirk?
[05:40] <berserker> as configure flash at firefox of 64 bits?
[05:41] <ubuntu> is possible save all settings in live cd? I boot from live cd rw in a cdrw device
[05:41] <dthacker> Milux: Kvirc?
[05:41] <berserker> ??
[05:41] <Milux> dthacker: yes
[05:41] <pag> !flash64 | berserker
[05:41] <ubotu> berserker: You can run Flash, Real, and Java plugins in AMD64 bit computers with Firefox. see the steps to follow at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxAMD64FlashJava
[05:41] <berserker> thanks
[05:41] <dthacker> Yes, I do
[05:41] <grul> !iso
[05:41] <ubotu> To mount an ISO disc image, type  sudo mount -o loop <ISO-filename> <mountpoint>  - There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion - Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before !burning.
[05:41] <Milux> dthacker: i can't set the right utf...
[05:42] <Milux> dthacker: codific
[05:42] <Milux> dthacker: i can't see the
[05:43] <dthacker> Milux:  Settings--->Configure Kvirc--->Encoding
[05:44] <Milux> dthacker: ok
[05:44] <dthacker> Milux: Then choose your encoding from the "Use Language Encoding" dropdown
[05:44] <Milux> dthacker: ok
[05:45] <Milux> dthacker: some else
[05:46] <dthacker> Milux: another question?
[05:46] <Milux> i must restart kvirc? and what's your version?
[05:47] <Milux> mine's 3.2.4
[05:47] <dthacker> I have 3.2.0 on this box and 3.2.4 on a laptop.
[05:47] <fati> i need help, my baby keeps doing this really cool thing where she mashes the keyboard an all of a sudden, i can select kde windows by typing the name in the title bar
[05:48] <fati> she's elite or something, i can't figure out how she gets it
[05:48] <fati> hehe
[05:48] <dthacker> Milux: I don't know if you need to restart.  Try it and see!
[05:48] <Milux> dthacker: you haven't any problem with codific?
[05:49] <Milux> dthacker:  it's ok now, thank you
[05:49] <Milux> :-)
[05:50] <dale> Hello
[05:50] <dthacker> Milux: np  :)
[05:52] <berserker> kisam,a
[05:53] <Karti> Hi, my mouse seems to have died after a reboot. COuld someone tell me what commands I can use to kill and restart it in a Konsole?
[05:53] <berserker> ??
[05:54] <Karti> I know the mouse works as its on a kvm and works on the other PCs and I have checked all cables
[05:54] <matt_> hey people
[05:54] <berserker> ???
[05:54] <ardchoille> Karti: Um.. I don't think you can "kill" and "restart" a mouse.. it's a device.. either it works or it doesn't.
[05:54] <epyfro> hi !
[05:54] <matt_> this is my first time EVER using IRC
[05:54] <ardchoille> Karti: Try unplugging it and plugging it back in.
[05:54] <berserker> ??
[05:55] <Karti> ardchoille : will do beb
[05:55] <berserker> ??
[05:55] <ardchoille> berserker: Is that the only key that works?
[05:55] <ardchoille> lol
[05:55] <BluesKaj> berserker , just yer question
[05:56] <BluesKaj> ask
[05:56] <klobster> I want to make a   partition that has /home,   and a shared media diectory (/shared), is it possible for me to do this and mount it to / or will it screw up my /mount; and is there a way for me to do this another way?
[05:57] <matt_> you can mount your /home directory to a seperate partition, and access if from /home under /, if that's what you mean
[05:57] <BluesKaj> must be an old windows guy who used seperate partitons for apps and OSs
[05:58] <matt_> that's what I'm doing
[05:59] <klobster> what I mean is /home and /shared are on one patition, / is another partition
[05:59] <matt_> ah, I see
[05:59] <BluesKaj> tried that ...just screwed up my access ...prolly cuz i din't do it properly at the get go
[05:59] <ardchoille> klobster: Ah, so /home and /shared are directories?
[06:00] <Karti> ardchoille Cheers looks like it was my ipod ;)
[06:00] <klobster> ardchoille: yes, hats correct
[06:00] <klobster> ^^ thats
[06:00] <ardchoille> kalorin`: Ah, glad it's fixed :)
[06:00] <BluesKaj> best way is to setup separate partitons during the install
[06:00] <gemidjy> is there a way to put Windows in menu.lst automatically as ubuntu does when it is installing ?
[06:01] <ardchoille> !grub
[06:01] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[06:01] <klobster> is there a way for me to mount this so that my root partition mounts at /, and my home and shared ((on theother partition) mount at /home and /shared ?
[06:02] <ubuntu> how can I save the configurations made in live cd, once the boot was in cdrw
[06:02] <ubuntu> how can I save the configurations made in live cd, once the boot was in cdrw?
[06:02] <matt_> klobster... I think you can do it with / home and /shared on seperate partitions of their own, and it seems like you could put them both on a single separate partition
[06:02] <matt_> i'm still a bit of a Linux newbie though, so that's giving me a headache, hehe... have you looked at the psychocats page?
[06:03] <loopin> Hello I installed kuubuntu and now I cant boot into Windows (theres no option in menu) plz how can I get into windows
[06:04] <TeraDyne> loopin, what option did you choose when you installed Kubuntu?
[06:04] <klobster> matt_: I know I can do it with /home and /shared on separate partitions, but I wanted them together on one...
[06:04] <TeraDyne> when you partitioned your drive*
[06:05] <loopin> I installed it on seperate partition
[06:05] <matt_> klobster ah... yeah, I don't know if you can do that or not... I'm still too much of a newb to help you, sorry :)
[06:05] <joncsn> why does konquerer try to open realplayer files with movie player?
[06:05] <joncsn> how can i fix this?
[06:06] <loopin> I already have kubuntu on it, I made a new partition for windows and then installed win on it. since win replaces grub, I reinstalled it. now I can only see kubuntu entries in grub and no win
[06:06] <gemidjy> how can I downgrade to Kernel 2.6.20-15
[06:06] <TeraDyne> loopin, there's your problem. You'll have to add it manually
[06:06] <TeraDyne> !grub | loopin
[06:06] <ubotu> loopin: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[06:07] <TeraDyne> loopin, that should help you in adding it back in.
[06:08] <kmtsg> anyone know how I get kubuntu to use my creative soundscard instead of the on-board one?
[06:11] <fryc97> hello
[06:12] <klobster> kmtsg:you have to disable yo sound card in  he bios;    or ask in  #alsa for info about switching soundcards
[06:12] <klobster> sorry fr all teh typos; my wireless keybad s messed up
[06:14] <mcscruff> lo all, how do you get xplanet to work
[06:15] <joncsn> how come after i configure konquerer to use realplayer it still tries to use totem?
[06:16] <theverant> how do I install missing modules for Kcontrol?
[06:17] <draik> joncsn: I forgot how to configure it, but you have to change the settings within konqueror to not use totem
[06:17] <theverant> I can't seem to find the disk and filesystem module
[06:17] <kmtsg> klobster: no I havent turned it off, it worked to have it on in windows and gentoo. but I will ask in #alsa. thanks.
[06:17] <theverant> and I'm missing the displays module
[06:17] <klobster> ok, I think I figured out what to do: first I make a home partition and add the dir .shared.  then I mount the partition to /home, and then mount /home/.shared to /shared.  it's ugly, but unless someone knows of a better way, that is what I will do.
[06:17] <jhutchins> kmtsg: multiple sound cards are one of the things that works in some distros but not others.
[06:17] <enry> good afternoon
[06:18] <jhutchins> enry: Not yet, but I appreciate the sentiment.  What can we do for you?
[06:18] <TeraDyne> joncsn, right click on the file and select properties. There should be a small button next to the "Type" line. Click it.
[06:18] <draik> Does anyone know how to get back the panel that shows all the open windows? I removed it when trying to remove the quick launch in Feisty
[06:18] <theverant> and the user management module.  I did a clean install of Kubuntu... why are all these pieces missing?
[06:18] <kmtsg> jhutchins: oh ok..  thanks for the info.
[06:19] <jhutchins> kmtsg: They can be made to work, but you have to figure out what's being done differently (and I don't know myself).
[06:19] <TeraDyne> joncsn, After that, make sure the application you want it to use it at the top of the "Application Preference Order"
[06:19] <enry> oh i was just saying hello :D
[06:20] <joncsn> its a stream link
[06:20] <joncsn> i went through the konquerer settings and deleted all other applications from the list except realplayer
[06:20] <joncsn> but it still wants to use totem
[06:21] <TeraDyne> That's odd. In fact, that's really odd. I'm not sure if I can help then.
[06:21] <kmtsg> jhutchins: ok..  I'll try turnig it off in the bios first.
[06:22] <jhutchins> kmtsg: That's the easy way.
[06:22] <joncsn> i cant even use firefox because then it tries to use embedded mplayer and doesnt play either
[06:22] <joncsn> totem gives me video but no sound
[06:25] <joncsn> real player will only work when i save target to my desktop first
[06:25] <aleksanteri> hi, kmix doesn't seem to find any mixers, how i fix this?
[06:25] <fatahou> salut
[06:25] <fatahou> bof i'm french it dead :)
[06:26] <aleksanteri> !fr
[06:26] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[06:26] <fatahou> ah je pensais  un truc comme ca
[06:26] <fatahou> merci
[06:27] <fatahou> ok
[06:28] <fatahou> je decouvre konversation
[06:28] <jhutchins> joncsn: Hang on, got something for you...
[06:28] <fatahou> ca a l'air enorme
[06:28] <aleksanteri> !fr | fatahou
[06:28] <ubotu> fatahou: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[06:28] <taa> hi
[06:28] <Ryiel> binks: I'm back. Any luck?
[06:29] <taa> i've just installed kde under ubuntu, i was using gnome before, when kde starts somme application missed their icons
[06:30] <taa> how to correct this please ?
[06:31] <jhutchins> joncsn: Ok, have you actually uninstalled totem?
[06:31] <jhutchins> joncsn: ?
[06:31] <BluesKaj> taa, Icons are missing in the k-menu or panel or... ?
[06:33] <BluesKaj> taa, check synaptic and make sure you have kubuntu-desktop installed
[06:33] <joncsn> no should i uninstall it?
[06:33] <joncsn> whats the best way to do that
[06:34] <jhutchins> joncsn: Yes, uninstall totem: apt-get --purge uninstall totem
[06:34] <jhutchins> joncsn: sorry: apt-get --purge remove totem
[06:35] <lufis> I can't find the applet that changes screen resolution. where is it?
[06:35] <ubuntu> Hi,  there is a errro fuse_2.6 required. I installed via  sudo fuse-source but I did not understand how to compile it
[06:36] <joncsn> do i need to restart? after i removed totem it still uses totem to open the file
[06:36] <jhutchins> lufis: krandrtray
[06:36] <jhutchins> joncsn: How did you remove totem?
[06:37] <lufis> jhutchins: oh thank god. i was about to go blind
[06:37] <joncsn> sudo apt-get --purge remove totem
[06:38] <jhutchins> joncsn: What happens now when you try to click on a link?
[06:39] <azzco> Is there any decent video editing program in the ubuntu repos?
[06:39] <ubuntu> how recompile fuse
[06:39] <ubuntu> ?
[06:39] <AlphaOmega> i just burned kubuntu and ubuntu alt and reg, all 4 cds dont boot on my machine, yet gparted i birned and official xp dics will boot, any ideas?
[06:39] <jhutchins> joncsn: What has worked for me in konqueror is to take a local file of the same type as the link, right click on it in konq, and choose the application to open it with.  This provides a checkbox to "remember" what application should open it.  This makes that app the preferred one for a whole set of file types.
[06:39] <BluesKaj> azzco, avidemux
[06:39] <AlphaOmega> burned*
[06:40] <azzco> Thanks BluesKaj
[06:40] <jhutchins> joncsn: I'm not sure if this affects firefox or not, but it should.
[06:40] <joncsn> jhutchins: it brings up a small window telling me type: realaudo file and gives me the options to either save as. open with 'movie player,' or cancel
[06:40] <aleksanteri> kmix doesn't seem to find any mixers, how i fix this?
[06:40] <binks> Ryiel: well sort of ill paste my latest logs
[06:41] <jhutchins> joncsn: I had to uninstall a package called totem-common, but that doesn't seem to exist on ubuntu.
[06:41] <jhutchins> joncsn: Also, I don't think mplayer will handle real, you may find it easier to just install the real player.
[06:41] <jhutchins> !mp3 | joncsn
[06:41] <ubotu> joncsn: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[06:41] <jhutchins> joncsn: Instructions above.
[06:42] <joncsn> i have installed real player
[06:42] <luke> question...
[06:42] <jhutchins> joncsn: It should have over-ridden the associations.
[06:42] <binks> Ryiel:
[06:43] <jussi01> luke:  go on
[06:43] <binks> Ryiel: http://www.pastebin.co.uk/17721
[06:43] <binks> ooops
[06:43] <jhutchins> joncsn: make sure you have the pluggin installed and have scanned for it in firefox.
[06:44] <abrahao> how recompile fuse?
[06:44] <luke> i use ubuntu not kubuntu, and i was wondering what LVM volume is, because during my boot process, it strays away from whe smooth loading scren and goes to  text loadin LVM, do i need this, i would like to remove it if possible, as the smoothness of my system is being interruppted
[06:45] <Ryiel> binks: it looks it works
[06:45] <Ryiel> erm, it seems to work
[06:45] <jhutchins> luke: perhaps #ubuntu?
[06:45] <jussi01> luke: have you asked in #ubuntu ?
[06:45] <jussi01> hehe..
[06:45] <jussi01> just beat me to it....
[06:45] <luke> i use ubuntu not kubuntu, and i was wondering what LVM volume is, because during my boot process, it strays away from whe smooth loading scren and goes to  text loadin LVM, do i need this, i would like to remove it if possible, as the smoothness of my system is being interruppted
[06:46] <Ryiel> lol
[06:46] <jhutchins> binks: I've never had good luck with kaffeine, I much prefer mplayer.  VLC also seems to be one of the ones that "just work".
[06:46] <binks> but what does>> nagra1 : failed to get CW mean
[06:46] <joncsn> jhutchins: how do i scan for the plugin in firefox?
[06:46] <binks> jhutchins: can vlc use the sc plugin
[06:46] <jhutchins> Hang on, let me fire it up.
[06:46] <Ryiel> binks: i bet it means wrong key format
[06:47] <binks> hmm i may have to connect my dbox to get the keys from that
[06:47] <Ryiel> i dont think vlc is capable of sat or cabletv
[06:47] <abrahao> where can I find apt-get install kernel-headers-2.4.27-1-686 ??
[06:47] <binks> nor me
[06:48] <binks> i wish i could get kvdr to work but i get an error telling me to turn off utf-8
[06:48] <Ryiel> binks: have you checked my keyfile?
[06:48] <Ryiel> binks: vdr isnt that easy to get to work
[06:48] <binks> Ryiel: yes thats how i got to that part lol
[06:49] <jhutchins> binks: Sorry, darned if I know, my firefox doesn't appear to have any configuration for plugins or mime type handling.
[06:50] <jhutchins> I HATE firefox!
[06:50] <Ryiel> pastebin yours and tell me which one you want to use
[06:50] <Ryiel> binks:
[06:50] <binks> jhutchins: ive gone full circle and am back on konq
[06:50] <TeraDyne> jhutchins, that's why I perfer SeaMonkey.
[06:50] <binks> Ryiel: ok 1 min
[06:50] <herrweltschaft> so
[06:51] <herrweltschaft> das meinte ich - habe den treiber aktiviert und die kiste lie sich nicht mehr starten
[06:52] <herrweltschaft> ich hab nvidia-glx installiert, dann neu gestartet - wie es im wiki steht
[06:52] <aleksanteri> !de | herrweltschaft
[06:52] <ubotu> herrweltschaft: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[06:52] <binks> Ryiel: http://www.pastebin.co.uk/17722
[06:52] <herrweltschaft> dann treiber aktiviert mit "sudo nvidia-xconfig" und wollte neustarten, aber dann wollte er nicht mehr
[06:54] <Ryiel> binks: nagra2 keys must have M1 or M2
[06:54] <Ryiel> not just 00 or 01
[06:54] <TeraDyne> !de > herrweltschaft
[06:54] <binks> arr so if i find that add it below my 0 and 1
[06:55] <binks> TeraDyne: he went already
[06:55] <TeraDyne> ah. Ok. I have join\part messages turned off
[06:56] <Ryiel> binks: check out mine how it looks like
[06:56] <binks> yep but yours is like loaded with more than 1 provider  and confusing to a newbie
[06:57] <binks> Ryiel: ^
[06:58] <Ryiel> binks: ok, let me check it out
[07:01] <Ryiel> binks: i cannot find those keys in my keyfile... where did you get those?
[07:01] <binks> Ryiel: i need the m1 key for 5A01
[07:01] <binks> those are cable keys ;) Ryiel
[07:02] <Ryiel> if that's in nagra2 they have to have m1 key
[07:02] <Ryiel> if those nagra 1 then they dont have
[07:03] <azzco> I need to convert a video... Do I have to use ffmpeg with commands or is there a gui?
[07:03] <karpiu> jol jol :D
[07:04] <mamusiaTwoja> :)
[07:04] <Dr_willis> !find avid
[07:04] <Ryiel> binks: btw, if you find the m1 key, just change it to M1 5A01 key
[07:04] <ubotu> Found: avida-base, avida-qt-viewer, avida-viewer, sword-comm-tdavid, avidemux
[07:04] <Dr_willis> !info  avidemux
[07:04] <ubotu> avidemux: a small editing software for avi (especially DivX). In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1:2.3.0-0.0ubuntu3 (feisty), package size 3270 kB, installed size 8256 kB
[07:04] <Dr_willis>  avidemux is good for converting some videos to other formats.
[07:05] <mod> I need help
[07:05] <Dr_willis> its NOT a frontend to ffmpeg.
[07:05] <Ryiel> mod just tell whats your problem
[07:05] <azzco> I don't get how to convert with avidemux =/
[07:05] <BluesKaj> !tovid | azzco
[07:05] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about tovid - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:06] <mod> Ryiel I don't speak english
[07:06] <Dr_willis> azzco,  time to learn? :)
[07:06] <Ryiel> mod: What is your native language then?
[07:06] <Dr_willis> azzco,  open file, select the options, select save...
[07:06] <binks> azzco: you got to be kidding me avidemux is sooo easy just load and select Auto then DVD
[07:06] <azzco> Yeah but I ony get how to select and I see the calculator options... but I have no idea how to actually do the encoding..
[07:06] <mod> Ryiel polski :)
[07:06] <mod> poland
[07:07] <mod> polish
[07:07] <Ryiel> !pol | mod
[07:07] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pol - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:07] <Ryiel> !pl | mod
[07:07] <ubotu> mod: Mozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu-pl
[07:07] <Dr_willis> I reencode stuff to xvid all the time for my GP2x
[07:07] <mod> !pl
[07:07] <Ryiel> So you know where you can get help :)
[07:08] <azzco> OMG That was to easy...
[07:08] <no_Ob> hi
[07:08] <mod> Ryiel I fuck You ;)
[07:08] <no_Ob> what was that repository for opera?
[07:08] <no_Ob> the commercial repo?
[07:08] <PriceChild> !ohmy | mod
[07:08] <ubotu> mod: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[07:09] <Dr_willis> !opera
[07:09] <ubotu> opera is an advanced and free (only as in price) web browser.  Install it via Applications->Add/Remove..., making sure that "Show commercial applications" (dapper only) is checked. For more info on opera please see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OperaBrowser
[07:09] <Dr_willis> !find opera
[07:09] <mod> PriceChil ?
[07:09] <ubotu> File opera found in apparmor-profiles, crossfire-maps, crossfire-maps-small, debian-edu-config, localization-config
[07:09] <Dr_willis> !info opera
[07:09] <ubotu> Package opera does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[07:09] <Dr_willis> hmm.. i just saw it..
[07:09] <Dr_willis> oh wait that was a MintLinux repo.
[07:09] <mod> aaaaaaaaaaaaa jaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa possszzzzzzzzzukkkkkkujjjjjjjjjeeeeeeee kogos kto G A D A   P O    P O L S K U :D :D :D
[07:10] <codemonke> I'm trying to install kubuntu 7.04 on an amd64 machine w/ an NVidia 8800GTS.  I can't get the graphical installer to work though.  I just get a blank screen when the installer starts.
[07:11] <BluesKaj> mod, in the server textbox type: /join #ubuntu-pl
[07:11] <codemonke> Are there any boot options I can use to tell the installer to use the nvidia driver?
[07:11] <Tm_T> BluesKaj: he's gone already
[07:12] <karpiu> ence pence
[07:12] <BluesKaj> yeah ,Tm_T, he beat me to it :) ...the main thing is he left:)
[07:13] <BluesKaj> or was kicked
[07:13] <abrahao> where can I find apt-get install kernel-headers-2.4.27-1-686 ??
[07:14] <no_Ob> that's not the one I was talking about
[07:14] <aleksanteri> he was removed
[07:14] <no_Ob> there was like a official ubuntu commerciaol repo
[07:14] <BluesKaj> well, BBL ...too nice out to stay inside today
[07:14] <Dr_willis> i recall there being some issues wht the 8800 video cards
[07:14] <Dr_willis> codemonke,  may want to use the alternative installer cd
[07:15] <codemonke> I am
[07:15] <codemonke> Wait, no, I'm using the dvd
[07:15] <Dr_willis> i think the dvd MIGHT have both on it.. not sure how the dvd differs
[07:15] <no_Ob> !commercial
[07:15] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about commercial - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:16] <codemonke> How can I instruct the installer to use it then?
[07:16] <Sayers> !ubuntu
[07:16] <ubotu> Ubuntu is a complete Linux-based operating system, freely available with both community and professional support. It is developed by a large community and we invite you to participate too! - Also see http://www.ubuntu.com
[07:16] <codemonke> If it were there
[07:16] <no_Ob> anyone konw how to add a commercial repo to Ubuntu?
[07:16] <no_Ob> the feisty commercial repo?
[07:16] <no_Ob> it's a matter of life or death
[07:16] <no_Ob> I need it ASAP
[07:16] <Arwen> no_Ob, lol, one second
[07:16] <devnull> Well spamming
[07:17] <devnull> like
[07:17] <devnull> this
[07:17] <devnull> Won't get you an answer any quicker ;)
[07:17] <Arwen>  deb http://archive.canonical.com feisty-commercial main
[07:17] <Arwen>  deb-src http://archive.canonical.com feisty-commercial main
[07:17] <Arwen> paste those into your sources.list
[07:17] <no_Ob> deb http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu feisty-commercial main
[07:17] <no_Ob> mm... mine looks different
[07:17] <no_Ob> yours is better?
[07:17] <no_Ob> does yours work?
[07:18] <lmerovingio> Hola a todos
[07:18] <Arwen> yes.. mine just has a line for source code
[07:18] <lmerovingio> estoy tratando de ejecutar php-mysql
[07:18] <no_Ob> lmerovingio: calla mierda
[07:19] <cugel> !sp
[07:19] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sp - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:19] <Arwen> !es | lmerovingio
[07:19] <ubotu> lmerovingio: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[07:19] <Arwen> I think
[07:19] <abrahao> how Can I install kernel-headers-2.4.27-1-686 ??
[07:19] <lmerovingio> ok, sorry, jaja
[07:19] <devnull> ew 2.4 ?
[07:19] <Tm_T> abrahao: what you are doing?
[07:19] <lmerovingio> I am new
[07:19] <Arwen> uh... apt-get install linux-headers-2.4.27-1-686
[07:19] <Arwen> why the hell do you need headers that old? are you using Hoary or something?
[07:19] <Tm_T> !ohmy | Arwen
[07:19] <ubotu> Arwen: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[07:20] <Tm_T> (;
[07:20] <Arwen> huh??/
[07:20] <lmerovingio> can you help me, the problem is that when I try to acced to the localhost/prueba.php appears the dialog to download or open the file
[07:20] <devnull> hell is not bad language..
[07:20] <Tm_T> it's not, but not needed either
[07:20] <devnull> imbrandon: install php
[07:20] <devnull> lmerovingio: install php and configure apache or whatever your using properly.
[07:20] <abrahao> Arwen - couldnt find packag, maybe repository
[07:21] <abrahao> ?
[07:21] <Tm_T> abrahao: packages.ubuntu.com might help
[07:22] <Arwen> abrahao, *sigh* what package? maybe you should search before asking?
[07:22] <joncsn> whats the best way to uninstall and reinstall flash?
[07:22] <PriceChild> maybe you should tell everyone the real problem joncsn
[07:23] <Arwen> jonasp, apt-get remove --purge flashplugin-nonfree && apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree. what's your problem?
[07:23] <joncsn> flash only works sometimes
[07:23] <Arwen> that's not an installation issue...
[07:23] <joncsn> like on the adobe site, it says flash works fine
[07:23] <joncsn> what sort of issue do you think it is?
[07:24] <XVampireX> I'm on quad core here people :D
[07:24] <XVampireX> does anyone want to help me with networking a bit?
[07:24] <XVampireX> everything works except konqueror
[07:24] <XVampireX> I'm on livecd, and it's as fast as heck :D
[07:24] <Arwen> !doesn't work | XVampireX
[07:24] <ubotu> XVampireX: Doesn't work is a strong statement. Does it sit on the couch all day? Does it want more money? Is it on IRC all the time? Please be specific! Examples of what doesn't work tend to help too.
[07:25] <XVampireX> I mean
[07:25] <XVampireX> it doesn't want to connect to websites
[07:25] <Arwen> explain. Maybe it's an ipv6 issue?
[07:25] <Tm_T> XVampireX: and error is what?
[07:25] <XVampireX> An error occurred while loading http://www.google.com:
[07:25] <XVampireX> Could not connect to host http://www.google.com/.
[07:26] <Arwen> Tm_T, is this an ipv6 problem?
[07:26] <Tm_T> uhm
[07:26] <Tm_T> XVampireX: try other pages too, some local sites, international ones etc
[07:27] <XVampireX> Doesn't work
[07:27] <aleksanteri> kmix doesn't seem to find any mixers, how i fix this?
[07:27] <Tm_T> !fi | aleksanteri
[07:27] <ubotu> aleksanteri: Suomenkielinen keskustelu (K)Ubuntusta kanavilla #ubuntu-fi ja #kubuntu-fi
[07:27] <aleksanteri> hmm
[07:28] <Tm_T> also, hummm
[07:28] <Tm_T> !sound | aleksanteri
[07:28] <ubotu> aleksanteri: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[07:28] <aleksanteri> checked them already
[07:28] <abrahao> Tm_T - I cant find kernel-headers-2.4.27-1-686 in packages.ubuntu.com. any ideia?
[07:28] <Tm_T> abrahao: why you need it?
[07:28] <Arwen> abrahao, that's because Ubuntu doesn't ship kernels that ancient
[07:29] <Arwen> go to kernel.org and download the source
[07:29] <Arwen> and actually, that might be in Debian, considering how ancient they are
[07:29] <devnull> Arwen: that is probably over his head
[07:29] <Arwen> devnull, too bad for him... he never told us what is issue was.
[07:31] <abrahao> Tm_T - to compule fuse 2.6
[07:31] <Tm_T> abrahao: and you would do that because...
[07:31] <devnull> Arwen: yeah and even the debian package list has nothing from 2.4
[07:31] <Arwen> ...and why can't you compile fuse against a *modern* kernel?
[07:31] <Arwen> devnull, hehe
[07:31] <Tm_T> Arwen: because its in modern kernel
[07:31] <Arwen> Tm_T, oh
[07:32] <Tm_T> IIRC
[07:32] <XVampireX> I fixed it
[07:32] <XVampireX> was a dhcp/dns problem
[07:32] <Arwen> heh
[07:32] <Tm_T> XVampireX: good
[07:32] <XVampireX> heh
[07:32] <joncsn> can someone tell me if flash works for them on this website?
[07:33] <devnull> yuck debian is still on 2.6.18 for stable
[07:33] <joncsn> http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/19355342/
[07:33] <XVampireX> This is gonna be wild when I install the system :D
[07:33] <devnull> They are gradually getting better about packages though
[07:33] <Arwen> Debian Stable is an exercise in obsolescence...
[07:34] <joncsn> when i click launch it says i need to install flash
[07:34] <robotgeek> devnull: but, its stable :)
[07:34] <devnull> robotgeek: If you say so
[07:34] <devnull> There are alot of different factors that determine "stable"
[07:34] <abrahao> tm_t - I'm installing the ntfs-3g package, and it is required to mount the ntfs volume
[07:35] <devnull> Outdated packages do not always mean they are more stable. Things such as hardware and and platform can interfere quite a bit.
[07:35] <Arwen> so... apt-get install ntfs-3g. What's the issue?
[07:35] <devnull> i.e.: amd64 in almost any distro is more stable w/ testing packages.
[07:35] <devnull> even in gentoo o.O
[07:35] <Arwen> Gentoo has "stable"? o.O
[07:36] <devnull> Arwen: Yeah
[07:36] <devnull> they call testing: Arch
[07:36] <robotgeek> damn, i killed myself
[07:36] <devnull> and beyond that is hardened
[07:37] <devnull> tbh after getting a full system up and running properly, (even on an ~arch install) it was more stable than most current distros
[07:37] <devnull> Though I must say, kubuntu/ubuntu has been nearly flawless so far.
[07:38] <Arwen> Gentoo is lame... it takes half an hour to install *anything*
[07:38] <crocodile> sudo apt-get install compiz  # compiz-gnome AND/OR compiz-kde
[07:38] <devnull> lol Arwen, not totally true
[07:38] <crocodile> does this mean to type install compiz AND compiz-kde , or is compiz-kde enough?
[07:38] <Arwen> um, totally true
[07:38] <devnull> crocodile: no
[07:38] <Arwen> (compiling..... compiling..... eta 30 min....)
[07:39] <devnull> crocodile: if you have kde use compiz-kde
[07:39] <TeraDyne> Gentoo, the GCC screensaver.
[07:39] <devnull> and likewise w/ gnome
[07:39] <crocodile> ok thought so
[07:39] <abrahao> I just need to aceess the ntfs volume
[07:40] <devnull> lol Arwen. It all depends on the package and everything else. The only things that REALLY take alot of time are: gcc, glibc, Xorg, kde/gnome
[07:40] <devnull> plus ccache speeds things up quite a bit
[07:41] <Arwen> devnull, ffmpeg, mplayer, oo.o, firefox, anything by mozilla, etc etc
[07:41] <crocodile> devnull - another question, sudo apt-get install compizconfig-settings-manager # compizconfig-backends-* ?!
[07:41] <aleksanteri> don't forget QT!
[07:41] <devnull> oh yeah and QT
[07:41] <crocodile> devnull - what does the # and ?! represent in this?
[07:41] <aleksanteri> :p
[07:42] <devnull> crocodile: just means to also install that
[07:42] <devnull> crocodile: the # is usually the sign for a terminal command.
[07:42] <crocodile> yes but why are they added to the lines?
[07:42] <devnull> and the AND is just like that so you know not to include it in the line
[07:43] <joncsn> can someone help me configure a printer over a network?
[07:43] <devnull> just do: apt--get install compiz && apt-get install compiz-kde
[07:43] <joncsn> i have the driver but my printing jobs just sit there in the queue
[07:44] <devnull> Arwen: Your just insane if you feel the need to compile oo.o
[07:44] <ar4446140890ne> where can I gind the commands for irc?
[07:44] <joncsn> the printer is on windows xp home, i have samba installed
[07:44] <Arwen> ar4446140890ne, type "/help"
[07:44] <ar4446140890ne> thx
[07:44] <devnull> for things such as firefox/thunderbird and oo.o, they have binaries.
[07:45] <sundar> is it possible to always use kde file manager in kubuntu ?  when I save files to disk using firefox I get a file manager
[07:45] <sundar> i mean a gnome file manager
[07:45] <devnull> sundar: change your default programs
[07:45] <ar4446140890ne> @ Arwen if it would work. which programm do you use?
[07:46] <devnull> sundar: System Settings on the menu, then Default Applications
[07:46] <Arwen> ar4446140890ne, to do what?
[07:46] <devnull> Arwen: Irc
[07:46] <ar4446140890ne> yes
[07:46] <devnull> konversation doesnt show help
[07:46] <Arwen> XChat, Konversation, or irssi. Take your pick.
[07:46] <abrahao> I just need to aceess the ntfs volume
[07:46] <Arwen> I use XChat
[07:47] <aleksanteri> kvirc \o/
[07:47] <Arwen> lol @ kvirc
[07:47] <sundar> devnull..I have only email clinet, emberdded text editor, instant messenger, terminal emulator and web browser...
[07:47] <ar4446140890ne> "/help" didnt work
[07:47] <devnull> ar4446140890ne: http://konversation.berlios.de/docs/konvi-cmds.html
[07:47] <ar4446140890ne> thx
[07:48] <aleksanteri> there's nothing lol in kvirc :P
[07:48] <Arwen> :-P
[07:49] <titans> hi
[07:50] <titans> isn't a flat screen supposed to run a 60Hz? mine is at 1280x1024@56Hz
[07:50] <titans> I am concerned it'll fry or sumthin
[07:50] <devnull> titans: running below is usually not bad
[07:50] <Arwen> titans, it *should*, but they won't fry
[07:50] <Arwen> mine runs at 75Hz
[07:50] <devnull> above can mess things up
[07:51] <titans> Arwen: is better at 75Hz?
[07:51] <titans> Arwen: what's the difference?
[07:51] <devnull> titans: It can also be a misinterpretation of the system, etc.
[07:51] <Arwen> titans, only if your display supports it... basically more Hz means you can see more fps
[07:51] <devnull> Also if its not really a name brand, they usually skip out on little things like that to save money.
[07:52] <titans> ok
[07:52] <titans> MORE FPS for free??!!!
[07:52] <crocodile> I installed compiz fusion, all installation steps worked and I run it but the effects aren't actually happening
[07:52] <Arwen> titans, you can *see* more fps. Doesn't mean you *have* more fps.
[07:52] <crocodile> any suggestions?
[07:53] <XVampireX> People
[07:53] <XVampireX> I have no idea how to install this...
[07:53] <Kjellviz> where can i change "default programs" in kde ? (i want to change what torrent program is used by default)
[07:53] <titans> damn! I don't have @75Hz I have 74Hz and 76Hz which one shouyld I pick?
[07:54] <titans> Arwen: System Settings says so
[07:54] <Arwen> dunno, don't ask me :-\
[07:54] <titans> you know what I'll pick 76Hz, higher better
[07:54] <XVampireX> "Can't have the end before the start!"
[07:54] <XVampireX> Does anyone have any idea what this means?
[07:55] <Arwen> XVampireX, what are you trying to do?
[07:55] <XVampireX> trying to create 3 partitions
[07:55] <XVampireX> 1 for root, one for home and one for swap
[07:55] <XVampireX> it won't let me
[07:55] <Arwen> screenshot
[07:57] <lord_earthship> I see I have to learn English as well as I could^^
[07:58] <XVampireX> wait I'll upload it to imageshack
[07:58] <XVampireX> http://img518.imageshack.us/img518/7538/snapshot1ke0.png
[07:59] <XVampireX> any idea?
[08:00] <Lunar_Lamp> XVampireX, I think it's because the first partition should start at the start of the disk.
[08:00] <Lunar_Lamp> (so the MBR can be read from there)
[08:00] <crocodile> wow wow, compiz fusion is loads better than beryl
[08:00] <Lunar_Lamp> Try setting it up like that.
[08:01] <XVampireX> Oh, okey
[08:01] <XVampireX> Yeah, I think that will work :D
[08:02] <XVampireX> no it doesn't let me
[08:03] <draik> What do I need to have my OpenGL screensavers to work?
[08:03] <Arwen> uh, 1) Grammar check
[08:03] <XVampireX> I'm gonna do some automatic install anyway
[08:03] <Arwen> 2) working DRI/DRM
[08:04] <draik> Arwen: Whoopsie. 2 thoughts into one
[08:04] <Lunar_Lamp> draik, basicallym, you need to install the drivers that allow opengl acceleration for your graphics card to be utlised.
[08:04] <draik> Lunar_Lamp: nVidia. Been having issues all day with the drivers.
[08:05] <Lunar_Lamp> draik, well, I'm not the best person to ask about setting up graphics cards, but that's pretty much wha tyou need.
[08:06] <draik> Thank you Lunar_Lamp
[08:06] <Arwen> why can't I have a 1600x1600x1600 monitor?
[08:06] <Arwen> grr!!!!
[08:07] <crimsun> because you haven't invented it yet
[08:07] <Lunar_Lamp> Arwen, because that would be a 3D surface...
[08:07] <crimsun> now get right on it ;p
[08:07] <Lunar_Lamp> Indeed crimsun, I'd quite like one of those too ;-)
[08:07] <Arwen> Lunar_Lamp, so?
[08:08] <Lunar_Lamp> Arwen, holographic technology isn't up to it yet :-(
[08:08] <Arwen> :-(
[08:08] <draik> How do I change the resolution of my login screen. I'm using 1280x1024 and the screen seems WAY over that setting. I have to move my mouse to the end of the screen to move around to the login section.
[08:08] <Arwen> draik, eh, sounds like broken drivers
[08:08] <Kjellviz> where can i change "default programs" in kde ? (i want to change what torrent program is used by default)
[08:09] <draik> Arwen: Not surprised.
[08:09] <draik> I'm starting to regret my upgrade from Edgy to Feisty
[08:09] <nosrednaekim> I never upgrade... I just do fresh installs
[08:10] <middleton> ih
[08:10] <middleton> I don't have border with beryl!!!
[08:10] <middleton> what was that garb something that I had to add?
[08:11] <draik> middleton: I just reload the app or beryl
[08:12] <middleton> draik: no there was something about GARB in xorg I need to add to change
[08:12] <middleton> I just forgot exactly what with a Geforce 5200
[08:12] <XVampireX_> gonna restart soon we'll see how fast this thing goes on :D
[08:12] <draik> !beryl | middleton
[08:12] <ubotu> middleton: beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. Help in #ubuntu-effects
[08:16] <devnull> !ati
[08:16] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[08:16] <middleton> this one ? Option "AddARGBGLXVisuals" "True"
[08:17] <nosrednaekim> yeah.
[08:17] <nosrednaekim> middleton: if you have an nvidia card
[08:18] <middleton> nosrednaekim: well I just did this sudo nvidia-xconfig --add-argb-glx-visuals -d 24
[08:18] <middleton> is that the same?
[08:18] <middleton> yep it's the same
[08:20] <abrahao> How can I save the changes in live cd?
[08:22] <nosrednaekim> abrahao: your can't
[08:22] <nosrednaekim> *you
[08:22] <abrahao> tks
[08:23] <crocodile> I have compiz running just fine, my question is how do I use all the different features of it?  I can enable/disable things in the config panel but it doesn't have tooltips on how to actually use them
[08:23] <Arwen> crocodile, basically, you have to read the descriptions or the docs. The control panel is a work in process.
[08:23] <DanaKil> hi
[08:23] <nosrednaekim> crocodile: thats why I use beryl, because it displays all the shortcuts
[08:24] <crocodile> nosrednaekim: this is a lot more optimized than beryl for me, running much smoother
[08:24] <devnull> heh I love ati -_-
[08:24] <abrahao> nosrednaekim - even in a cdrw with a cdr recorder?
[08:24] <nosrednaekim> abrahao: yeah.
[08:25] <crocodile> Arwen: darn, well at least its a solid answer thanks :X
[08:25] <abrahao> thanks
[08:25] <nosrednaekim> if you have files and things you can always put them on a USB stick
[08:25] <ubuntu> kuku
[08:27] <Kjellviz> crocodile: where did u get compiz fusion ?
[08:27] <crocodile> from the repositories ;)
[08:27] <crocodile> getting you a link, 1 sec
[08:28] <Kjellviz> sweet tnx
[08:28] <crocodile> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=481615
[08:28] <Kjellviz> thanks =D
[08:28] <nosrednaekim> oh..compizfusion? cool..
[08:28] <Kjellviz> btw what is katapult ?
[08:28] <nosrednaekim> i'm getting that!
[08:28] <aleksanteri> a launcher
[08:29] <Arwen> say, compiz fusion is the name of the beryl/compiz merger right?
[08:29] <crocodile> yep Arwen
[08:29] <aleksanteri> oh i thought it'd come coral
[08:29] <Kjellviz> aleksanteri: what is a launcher and what does it launch ? ><
[08:29] <omega__> hello to all again
[08:29] <aleksanteri> lol
[08:29] <crocodile> i press alt-space and katapult opens but dosnt do anything :X
[08:30] <omega__> i'm the new one in linux
[08:30] <aleksanteri> Kjellviz: first start katapult, then press alt-space, write the application's name that you want to start and press enter and it will open for you
[08:30] <crocodile> nice one
[08:30] <omega__> how can i install samba?
[08:31] <nosrednaekim> omega__: I think its already installed
[08:31] <Arwen> omega__, apt-get install samba smbfs
[08:31] <Kjellviz> aha that explains it
[08:32] <omega__> tanks arwen :)
[08:32] <Kjellviz> thanks a lot
[08:32] <Kjellviz> that was the tip of the day!
[08:33] <omega__> so i think to nosrednaekim
[08:33] <omega__> but it doesn't work
[08:34] <Arwen> omega__, explain how it doesn't work. But no, samba is not preinstalled, only the client.
[08:34] <zinden> hello, i need some help with firefox.....my search engines on upper right corner is gone. using gran turismo latest
[08:35] <binks> Ryiel: got it working m8 thanks for everything it was the key found one on a russian site :):)
[08:35] <nosrednaekim> zinden: #firefox
[08:35] <ubuntu> sex
[08:35] <ubuntu> sex
[08:35] <ubuntu> sex
[08:35] <ubuntu> sex
[08:36] <omega__> it says that samba and nfs servers are not instaled
[08:36] <omega__> arwen
[08:36] <crocodile> zinden - right click and configure.. and isn't gran turismo a playstation game?
[08:37] <omega__> i'm gone be right back arwen
[08:37] <zinden> crocodile: lol, yes...i ment gran paradiso :)  and i cant do that....as they arent there
[08:37] <kraut> moin
[08:37] <omega__> gone for a smoke'
[08:37] <zinden> crocodile: i think there is in firefox regular folder....dont know where in computer to look
[08:38] <crocodile> load firefox and right click the menu bar, choose configure
[08:38] <crocodile> you change the appearance there
[08:38] <crocodile> *customize rather
[08:42] <Kjellviz> i installed kde-desktop on ubuntu, and it seems its still using the gnome tool for choosing screensavers
[08:43] <Kjellviz> whatever i do in desktop system settings in kde, it does not change my screensaver
[08:43] <Kjellviz> any ideas ?
[08:43] <aleksanteri> remove gnome?
[08:43] <aleksanteri> :P
[08:43] <Kjellviz> that could solve it, but ive got some progs that i suspect need gnome to run
[08:43] <Kjellviz> ><
[08:44] <aleksanteri> remove them too :P
[08:44] <uros> hi all.
[08:44] <Kjellviz> helpfull today ?
[08:44] <nosrednaekim> if you are going to be kubuntu user..... BE A KUBTUTU USER! ;)
[08:45] <uros> my ext.drive won't automount anymore, i have to mount it by hand (and using sudo).
[08:45] <aleksanteri> kubtutu?
[08:45] <nosrednaekim> Kjellviz: just use the gnome tool then
[08:45] <Kjellviz> im not
[08:45] <nosrednaekim> aleksanteri: heh
[08:45] <Kjellviz> im a ubuntu user that is trying kde
[08:45] <nosrednaekim> Kjellviz: hehe... sorry I was just kidding.
[08:45] <Kjellviz> whats the gnome tool called ?
[08:46] <nosrednaekim> Kjellviz: no clue... it should be somewhere in the kmenu though
[08:47] <Kjellviz> hmmk
[08:47] <Kjellviz> something tells me i should have just installed kubuntu instead of ubuntu and then adding kde ><
[08:48] <nosrednaekim> Kjellviz: did you do "apt-get install kubuntu-desktop"?
[08:48] <Kjellviz> kde-desktop i think
[08:48] <Kjellviz> but else, yes
[08:48] <aleksanteri> when trying gnome i first installed kubuntu, then installed gnome and removed kde and everything was fine
[08:48] <nosrednaekim> Kjellviz: ah... run that command I gave you.....
[08:48] <aleksanteri> except that i still had the ubuntu bootsplash that is :P
[08:48] <juan278> how do i pair a phone with my pc?
[08:49] <aleksanteri> kubuntu!! *
[08:49] <piterson> ???
[08:49] <Kjellviz> its all installed it says
[08:50] <nosrednaekim> Kjellviz: you did that?
[08:50] <Kjellviz> ran the command
[08:50] <Kjellviz> it says its all installed and up 2 date
[08:50] <Ryiel> binks: congrats, i did nothing :D
[08:50] <Kjellviz> but its kinda fubar
[08:50] <nosrednaekim> Kjellviz: no joy with the screen saver though?
[08:50] <Kjellviz> cos the kde settings is 1 desktop
[08:51] <Kjellviz> but i have 4 ><
[08:51] <nosrednaekim> Kjellviz: interesting.
[08:51] <binks> you pointed me alot cheers and the case sensitive .kaffeine was your fix :)
[08:51] <Kjellviz> ohhh thats prob compiz
[08:51] <binks> Ryiel: now for mythtv :)
[08:51] <Kjellviz> nvm the workspaces
[08:51] <nosrednaekim> Kjellviz: you're not running beryl are you?
[08:51] <Kjellviz> no, compiz
[08:51] <nosrednaekim> ah.. right
[08:52] <Kjellviz> an older version, not the new compiz fusion
[08:52] <Ryiel> binks: go for it. I stick to kaffeine, it works and easy
[08:52] <Schuenemann> !wma
[08:52] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[08:52] <binks> how do i record in kaffeine
[08:53] <Ryiel> tell me your experiences with mythtv later ;)
[08:53] <Ryiel> that little floppy disc icon :D
[08:53] <Ryiel> or you can use timed record
[08:53] <Ryiel> just set it up first in options
[08:54] <Schuenemann> which package I have to install in order to play wma? the wiki isn't clear
[08:55] <nosrednaekim> I think xine-extracodecs gets it.
[08:55] <binks> ok cheers :) and i will also ill get you access to a uk sat forum (closed doors atm) very good with the encryption stuff if ya like
[08:55] <nosrednaekim> *libxine
[08:55] <Schuenemann> I already have that, but I think it's for mp3
[08:55] <nosrednaekim> Schuenemann: welll.... wma plays for me.
[08:56] <Schuenemann> with only that package?
[08:56] <Schuenemann> !w32
[08:56] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about w32 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:56] <Schuenemann> !w32codec
[08:56] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about w32codec - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:56] <Schuenemann> !w32codecs
[08:56] <ubotu> Seveas has a popular 3rd party repository for several packages, including the win32 codecs: see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - See also !Codecs
[08:57] <GrahamA> Schuenemann: You need to install w32codecs which by default isn't in the ubuntu repository, try adding medibuntu
[08:57] <GrahamA> Though medibuntu for me is very slow, so I disable it when I'm not using it.
[08:57] <Schuenemann> hmm
[08:57] <Ryiel> just simply do not use wma :D
[08:57] <Ryiel> isnt vlc playing it?
[08:57] <Ryiel> *doesnt
[08:57] <Schuenemann> let me try
[08:57] <GrahamA> Schuenemann: Trust me :)
[08:57] <Ryiel> try vlc
[08:58] <Schuenemann> GrahamA, I trust you, but testing vlc is quicker heh
[08:58] <devnull> unfortunately alot of popular sites use wmvs...
[08:58] <Schuenemann> nope, vlc doesn't play it
[08:58] <GrahamA> Schuenemann: Nooo... anything but VLC!
[08:59] <devnull> <3 mplayer
[08:59] <GrahamA> Love xine/amarok.
[08:59] <Schuenemann> GrahamA, I just have to add 'medibuntu' ?
[08:59] <Kjellviz> in kubuntu/ubuntu
[08:59] <Schuenemann> deb http://br.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ edgy universe multiverse medibuntu
[08:59] <Arwen> VLC can't play WMA
[08:59] <Arwen> period
[08:59] <Arwen> or at least, the distro's crappy VLC can't
[09:00] <GrahamA> !medibuntu
[09:00] <Kjellviz> hows the best way to go about reinstalling without loosing to much settings and documents ?
[09:00] <ubotu> medibuntu is a repository of packages that cannot be included into the Ubuntu distribution for legal reasons - See http://www.medibuntu.org
[09:00] <Arwen> !medibuntu | Schuenemann
[09:00] <Arwen> read that please
[09:00] <ubotu> Schuenemann: please see above
[09:00] <Arwen> no...
[09:00] <Schuenemann> the bot is smart
[09:00] <GrahamA> Schuenemann: I love the bot, I just hate some of the people who use it.
[09:00] <nosrednaekim> !botsnack
[09:00] <ubotu> Yum! Err, I mean, APT!
[09:00] <Arwen> Kjellviz, migrate your /home to a separate partition
[09:00] <ubuntu> woot, so i lost my linux virginity today *giggle*squirt*lights cig*
[09:00] <GrahamA> :D
[09:01] <GrahamA> ubuntu: Fucking hell...
[09:01] <ubuntu> how do i go about getting my custom settings commited to a custom livecd?
[09:01] <Kjellviz> Arwen: sweet thanks
[09:01] <GrahamA> And nobody give me !language
[09:01] <Schuenemann> echo "deb http://packages.medibuntu.org/ edgy free non-free" | sudo tee -a /etc/apt/sources.list
[09:01] <PriceChild> !Ohmy | GrahamA
[09:01] <ubotu> GrahamA: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[09:01] <Schuenemann> this will append?
[09:01] <GrahamA> OR THAT!
[09:01] <titans> !fonts
[09:01] <Kjellviz> Arwen: guess it cannot be a windows partition ? ><
[09:01] <ubotu> Font installation basics here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FontInstallHowto - No fonts in Flash? Install "msttcorefonts" (from !Multiverse), "gsfonts", and "gsfonts-x11". No fonts in MPlayer? see !MPlayer
[09:01] <Schuenemann> append that string to sources.list ?
[09:02] <athena> ick, talking over tor while using BT is unacceptably slow
[09:02] <noobuntu> owned by sum1 else?
[09:02] <GrahamA> ubuntu: I've seen you here alot, are you saying you've only TODAY installed Linux?
[09:02] <noobuntu> gotta be kiding me
[09:02] <Kjellviz> also, is the 7.10 alpha up for grabs anywhere ?
[09:02] <noobuntu> nah, i just run it off a disk
[09:03] <noobuntu> funny though
[09:03] <noobuntu> default ircnick for Konversation=ubuntu
[09:03] <GrahamA> noobuntu: OIC
[09:03] <nosrednaekim> for me it was my user name
[09:03] <codemonke> More fun w/ nvidia cards
[09:03] <noobuntu> wanna get this thing to automatically boot apache/mysql/php
[09:04] <Schuenemann> GrahamA, I got some 404 not found
[09:04] <noobuntu> how do i commit my installations or install scripts and build a new cd
[09:04] <noobuntu> image.
[09:04] <GrahamA> Schuenemann: Some 404? Don't tell my mom!
[09:04] <GrahamA> !medibuntu
[09:04] <ubotu> medibuntu is a repository of packages that cannot be included into the Ubuntu distribution for legal reasons - See http://www.medibuntu.org
[09:04] <codemonke> So I'm haviing issues getting the nvidia driver to work.  So just for the time being I changed the xorg.conf to use the vesa driver.
[09:04] <Schuenemann> GrahamA, I did what was written there
[09:04] <GrahamA> Schuenemann: Open adept manager
[09:05] <codemonke> I can boot in recovery, run X -config /etc/X11/xorg.conf, and it works
[09:05] <codemonke> telinit 3, and I get my desktop w/ the vesa driver.
[09:05] <athena> codemonke, you know, you could just use the nv driver..
[09:05] <codemonke> But I still get a blank screen if I boot in normal mode
[09:05] <Schuenemann> GrahamA, how about that part-installation?
[09:05] <GrahamA> athena: I doubt it, vesa is for ATI cards :)
[09:06] <GrahamA> Just do it.
[09:06] <crocodile> when I run emerald, I get this error constantly:      (emerald:18768): Wnck-WARNING **: Unhandled action type (nil)
[09:06] <nosrednaekim> GrahamA: its for all cards
[09:06] <athena> but he said he had issues with nvidia, lol
[09:06] <athena> and yeah, vesa is generic
[09:06] <codemonke> I don't the the nv driver doesn't work w/ the 8800.
[09:06] <Schuenemann> GrahamA, ok, I opened
[09:06] <nosrednaekim> codemonke: oh... the 8800..
[09:06] <athena> lol @ 8800
[09:06] <nosrednaekim> you have to get the beta driver for that
[09:06] <athena> FAIL :-P
[09:06] <GrahamA> Go to adept > manage repositores.
[09:06] <nosrednaekim> or the newly release 100.xx.xx
[09:07] <GrahamA> codemonke: Try nvidia-glx-new
[09:07] <codemonke> I did
[09:07] <Schuenemann> medibuntu is there
[09:07] <codemonke> I was using the 9755 w/ other distributions just fine
[09:07] <GrahamA> Schuenemann: Done? Click on third-party tab... ok.
[09:07] <codemonke> Reguardless though, the vesa driver should at leasst work
[09:08] <Schuenemann> where is that tab?
[09:08] <GrahamA> kbuntu software | third party software | updates
[09:08] <GrahamA> Is the box next to medibuntu checked?
[09:08] <codemonke> And it does work if I boot in recovery, and then switch to run level 3.  But not if I boot in normal mode
[09:08] <Schuenemann> I don't see any of that
[09:08] <Schuenemann> I'm on edgy, btw
[09:08] <Dusk_> does anyone know how can i install my usb adsl modem on kubuntu???
[09:09] <GrahamA> Edgy doesn' have that.
[09:09] <Schuenemann> GrahamA, there is no box
[09:09] <Schuenemann> hmm
[09:09] <GrahamA> Right click and enable it.
[09:09] <Schuenemann> enable what? there isn't a box
[09:09] <GrahamA> right CLICK ON MEDIBUNTU!
[09:10] <Schuenemann> disable, clone or remove
[09:10] <GrahamA> It's enabled, aske somebody else.
[09:10] <GrahamA> I don't know.
[09:10] <Schuenemann> of course it's enabled
[09:12] <Schuenemann> !lock
[09:12] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about lock - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:12] <devnull> !mediabuntu
[09:12] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mediabuntu - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:12] <athena> Schuenemann, you FAIL. Pastebin your sources.list
[09:12] <devnull> !medibuntu
[09:12] <ubotu> medibuntu is a repository of packages that cannot be included into the Ubuntu distribution for legal reasons - See http://www.medibuntu.org
[09:12] <aleksanteri> !medibuntu
[09:12] <Schuenemann> athena, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27053/
[09:13] <devnull> lol such a dumb way
[09:13] <devnull> echo "deb http://packages.medibuntu.org/ feisty free non-free" | sudo tee -a /etc/apt/sources.list
[09:13] <devnull> why not just : sudo echo "deb http://packages.medibuntu.org/ feisty free non-free" >> /etc/apt/sources.list
[09:13] <Schuenemann> I think that command erased my last line
[09:13] <athena> Schuenemann, ... you need a blank line between entries.... look at your lsat one
[09:13] <azzco> Err I've got no sound from kde notifications :S help?
[09:14] <athena> or, rather, you need a newline
[09:14] <codemonke> brb, need to turn on my router
[09:14] <Schuenemann> athena, that command messed it... sgh
[09:14] <azzco> I've got sound from amarok but not from kopete notifications, test sound in sound system doesn't work either
[09:15] <Schuenemann> athena, what is the correct?
[09:15] <Schuenemann> I mean, when does the 1st line end?
[09:16] <athena> Schuenemann, after msic/
[09:16] <athena> misc*
[09:16] <Schuenemann> k
[09:16] <athena> deb http://packages.medibuntu.org edgy free non-free should be on its own line
[09:17] <noobuntu> can sum1 suggest an ftp client?
[09:17] <aleksanteri> filezilla
[09:17] <Schuenemann> I get that error of non-verified signature
[09:17] <Schuenemann> I can ignore that, right?
[09:18] <azzco> There's a kde ftp progra... but you can allways use konqueror instead
[09:18] <XVampireX> !nvidia
[09:18] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[09:18] <vbgunz> how do I get every openoffice app to show up in my menu? do I need to install anything?
[09:18] <noobuntu> doesnt look like the konqueror allows cue's
[09:18] <XVampireX> How do I get 8800 GTX working?
[09:18] <Schuenemann> athena, so, which package do I need?
[09:19] <athena> Schuenemann, I lost track of the original question. I think it's w32codecs if you're the one asking about wma.
[09:19] <Sayers> How hard would it be to stream music through kubunutu?
[09:19] <athena> not very...
[09:19] <Milux> hello! i can't see correctly the ...letters with kvirc. I tried UTF-8 and ISO 8859-1.  I wanted one like it
[09:22] <athena> lol @ mirc...
[09:22] <aleksanteri> lol...
[09:22] <Schuenemann> come on, mirc is good
[09:22] <narcispy> sup everyone
[09:23] <Linracoon> Does anyone know if is possible to put working a USB wireless adapter?
[09:23] <narcispy> sure its possible
[09:23] <narcispy> its based on the chipset
[09:23] <athena> Linracoon, very unlikely, but a couple work.
[09:23] <athena> I recommend buying a real wifi card...
[09:23] <Milux> kvirc is not bad, but i can't solve this problem
[09:23] <aleksanteri> oh the problem
[09:24] <narcispy> does anyone have ubuntu with an ati x series card and can help me getting mine working properly
[09:24] <aleksanteri> i use utf-8 and it works
[09:24] <athena> narcispy, I do, but mine is an X300SE so it probably doesn't count.
[09:24] <Milux> aleksanteri: version?
[09:24] <Schuenemann> Milux, you can't see this --> o sapo no lava o p
[09:24] <aleksanteri> 3.2.4 on ubuntu 6.06
[09:24] <Schuenemann> ?
[09:24] <Milux> Schuenemann: no
[09:24] <narcispy> it might... are you using flgrx drivers athena?
[09:24] <Milux> :-(
[09:24] <aleksanteri> Schuenemann: that one i can't see
[09:24] <athena> nope, I used to though, what do you need?
[09:24] <Schuenemann> weird
[09:25] <narcispy> i have a problem getting it working properly, like 3d effects dont work at all
[09:25] <Schuenemann> I'm using ISO-8859-1
[09:25] <aleksanteri> Milux: try ISO-8859-4
[09:25] <athena> narcispy, .....did you remember to disable composite?
[09:25] <Milux> aleksanteri: ...4?
[09:25] <narcispy> disable composite where
[09:25] <aleksanteri> ya
[09:25] <narcispy> xorg?
[09:25] <Milux> aleksanteri: ok
[09:25] <athena> and does the driver itself work? or are you having problems setting it up?
[09:25] <aleksanteri> always use it as a fallback if they don't work :P
[09:25] <athena> narcispy, xorg.conf
[09:26] <Schuenemann> athena, I still can't play wma
[09:26] <narcispy> um i have been though it a few times with 3 different distros getting it to work and it still won't, i have played around with xorg all day and driver install and still no luck
[09:26] <Milux> aleksanteri: i can try now
[09:26] <athena> Schuenemann, after installing w32codecs? what media player are you using?
[09:26] <Schuenemann> amarok
[09:26] <Linracoon> athena: can you be more specific?
[09:26] <Schuenemann> it doesn't echo any error, just tries to play and stops at the same time
[09:27] <athena> Linracoon, about what?
[09:27] <Milux> Schuenemann: write some letters ...
[09:27] <Schuenemann> but I can watch and hear wma in kaffeine
[09:27] <Schuenemann> Milux, you can't see this --> o sapo no lava o p
[09:27] <athena> Schuenemann, uh huh.... weird....
[09:27] <Milux> puh
[09:27] <Milux> no
[09:27] <Schuenemann> don't you have to reconnect Milux ?
[09:27] <athena> no idea what to say, guess your amarok is broken
[09:27] <aleksanteri> i can see it now
[09:27] <Milux> Schuenemann: i don't know
[09:27] <aleksanteri> no you don't have to reconnect
[09:27] <narcispy> my xorg says im using the "ati" driver
[09:28] <athena> wma kinda sucks you know... you sure you don't have a master source or something you could rip to Vorbis or MPEG-4 AAC?
[09:28] <Milux> i try reconnect
[09:28] <athena> narcispy, uh huh.... so you don't even have the proprietary drivers installed...
[09:28] <athena> this is gonna take a lot of work...................
[09:28] <narcispy> i do but it doesnt recognize them
[09:28] <Schuenemann> athena, I know it sucks... but I might need it
[09:28] <narcispy> if i switch to fglrx my screen is blank after grub
[09:28] <Schuenemann> I don't want to convert them everytime I get them
[09:28] <athena> Schuenemann, I guess amarok just can't play them then? sorry, it's beyond me
[09:29] <athena> narcispy, please join #anon32 , this is gonna take a looong looong time
[09:29] <Milux> here i'm
[09:29] <narcispy> k
[09:29] <Schuenemann> I have played them in amarok before
[09:29] <Schuenemann> I don't remember if I was using dapper or edgy, though
[09:31] <lord_earthship> how can i save my nick????
[09:31] <Schuenemann> athena, remove and install amarok seems a reasonable attempt
[09:31] <Schuenemann> that was a question
[09:31] <aleksanteri> lord_earthship: /msg nickserv help
[09:31] <athena> Schuenemann, you can go for it if you want
[09:32] <omid> what is up
[09:33] <Schuenemann> Milux, is it working now?
[09:33] <Milux> Schuenemann: i'm testing now
[09:33] <Schuenemann> sof caf mo
[09:34] <Milux> ok
[09:34] <Milux> it's righ
[09:34] <Milux> Schuenemann: mas vc fala portugues?
[09:35] <Schuenemann> im
[09:35] <Schuenemann> sim*
[09:35] <Milux> so i
[09:36] <Milux> :-)
[09:36] <aleksanteri> :)
[09:36] <Schuenemann> =D
[09:37] <kcfoxie> morning/evening/afternoon folks!
[09:38] <TeraDyne> Quick question. What's the command to play an OGG audio file from the terminal?
[09:39] <codemonky> Is there a kde interface to "Restricted Drivers" in kubuntu like the gnome one in ubuntu?
[09:39] <athena> ogg123 or mplayer
[09:39] <athena> codemonky, no
[09:39] <TeraDyne> thanks, athena
[09:44] <__-osh-__> Anyone good at programming here? Where do I start looking if I want to capture text from a textfield in a 3:rd party application?
[09:45] <__-osh-__> It's not a webb-app unfortunatly. :-/
[09:45] <ardchoille> gettext();  ?
[09:45] <ardchoille> Just a guess as my skills are quite rusty
[09:47] <__-osh-__> I'll have a look at it. Not sure how to get gettext() to read from a specific field in this application, but it's a good place to start. Thanks.
[09:50] <Tm_T> PIPBoy_: just install it
[09:51] <PIPBoy_> install what?
[09:51] <Tm_T> 22:49 < PIPBoy_> hi all, is there a link for installing KDE aside from the GNOME? like an apt-get or something like that?
[09:51] <PIPBoy_> ok, so what you want me to install kubuntu?
[09:51] <Tm_T> kubuntu-desktop
[09:51] <psicobra> hi all
[09:52] <TeraDyne> PIPBoy, sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[09:52] <Tm_T> PIPBoy_: btw what did you mean by "so pro" ?
[09:52] <psicobra> is the nly difference between unbuntu and kubuntu kde and gnome
[09:52] <kcfoxie> anyone use moto4lin?
[09:52] <psicobra> mope
[09:52] <psicobra> nope
[09:52] <Tm_T> psicobra: yes, GNOME is different from KDE in many ways, try and see.
[09:52] <TeraDyne> psicobra, there are also different applications installed by default.
[09:52] <psicobra> i have always liked kde
[09:53] <psicobra> gtg reboot needed
[09:53] <Tm_T> kcfoxie: what poll is that?
[09:54] <kcfoxie> it's a program that lets you connect to the filesys on your motorola phone
[09:54] <kcfoxie> i've having a devil of a time getting it working in kubuntu dapper
[09:54] <XVampireX> can anyone here help me with installing drivers for 8800 GTX?
[09:54] <kcfoxie> i'm starting to think it's because I am on PowerPC hardware.
[09:54] <PIPBoy_> Tm_T: dont worry about it, nothing towards you
[09:54] <Tm_T> XVampireX: hum?
[09:54] <illriginal> I have a question!... Is it normal for my RAM to shoot up to 400-800MB of memory? It's staying at 400mb steadily.
[09:54] <XVampireX> Tm_T: I'm installing whatever version and it doesn't want to go to X :(
[09:54] <Tm_T> PIPBoy_: well, I don't care who's towards it was, it's not right attitude if you like to have some help
[09:55] <Tm_T> XVampireX: even -new?
[09:55] <XVampireX> yeah
[09:55] <Tm_T> interesting
[09:55] <XVampireX> even self compiled
[09:55] <TeraDyne> illriginal, it depends on what apps are running.
[09:55] <Tm_T> illriginal: how you measure?
[09:55] <PIPBoy_> Tm_T: ok, that was not anything negative towards the redirect if your thinking thats what it was
[09:55] <illriginal> uhm... Beryl, Gaim, Firefox, Xchat, and my adesklets.
[09:55] <XVampireX> please I need help :(
[09:55] <illriginal> TM_T it's on my memory monitor.
[09:56] <Tm_T> illriginal: and how that measure?
[09:56] <illriginal> tm_t... I don't understand that question.
[09:56] <Tm_T> illriginal: actually, open konsole and run "free -m"
[09:56] <illriginal> ok
[09:56] <Tm_T> illriginal: look -/+ line
[09:57] <illriginal> Mem:          1003        878        125
[09:57] <Tm_T> XVampireX: hum, what does nvidia site tell about it?
[09:57] <narcispy_> athena im back
[09:57] <Dusk_> could you plz help me about the usb adsl modem??
[09:57] <Dusk_>  can't get any link
[09:57] <Tm_T> illriginal: look -/+ line
[09:57] <illriginal> -/+ buffers/cache:        213        790
[09:57] <athena> narcispy, so you are
[09:57] <Dusk_> i can't get any link
[09:57] <athena> did it not work?
[09:57] <narcispy> and it doesnt work lol
[09:57] <XVampireX> Tm_T: That it should work...
[09:57] <Tm_T> illriginal: ok, there you go, only 213 M used
[09:57] <Dusk_> i installed pppoe packages
[09:57] <athena> narcispy, pastebin the file /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[09:57] <Dusk_> but no link
[09:57] <narcispy> k
[09:57] <Tm_T> XVampireX: then no idea except look xorg logs
[09:57] <athena> (but only if you haven't restarted X)
[09:58] <illriginal> ah i see... so my system monitor adesklet is stupidly incorrect. lol
[09:58] <Tm_T> illriginal: well, it counts buffers and cache too
[09:58] <Tm_T> illriginal: so yes, it tells foofoo
[09:58] <illriginal> understood.
[09:58] <psicobra> k so if i install the nvidia driver through the package manager do i have to edit xorf.conf or is it auto?
[09:58] <illriginal> thank you tm_t :P
[09:58] <comosicus> i whant to install a better version of video activex becouse i have a program that allow me to use windows aplication on linux...but when i try to install that new version  i can't becouse i must uninstall the old version.......but i dont find the old version of video activex
[09:59] <Tm_T> psicobra: you need to activate it
[09:59] <narcispy> athena:  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27060/
[09:59] <psicobra> Tm_T: how do i do that?
[09:59] <Tm_T> !nvidia | psicobra
[09:59] <ubotu> psicobra: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[10:00] <Tm_T> comosicus: activex? in Linux?
[10:00] <titans> !cellphone
[10:00] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about cellphone - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:00] <comosicus> yessss
[10:00] <titans> !iphone
[10:00] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about iphone - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:00] <comosicus> activex in linux
[10:00] <athena> narcispy, you switched back to the "ati" driver... now that log is useless
[10:00] <titans> yooo what's that cellphone package
[10:00] <titans> !bluetooth
[10:00] <ubotu> For instructions on how to set up bluetooth, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BluetoothSetup