[07:29] <Existz> where is that?
[07:29] <asc> cimon: Righto. Hope it works okay. Hints: learn F3 instead of the menu to start programs, and you can run 'gnome-panel' for a friendly menu while you get used to the wm.
[07:29] <Existz> I click the big K
[07:29] <Existz> nothing of the sort
[07:29] <bur[n] er> Existz, aww, you haev kde
[07:29] <Existz> kubuntu 7.04
[07:29] <Zombie> What is the best means of adding KDE Support to Ubuntu?
[07:29] <Existz> zombie
[07:29] <Existz> get kubuntu 7.04
[07:29] <amidanie1> Zombie: See kubuntu
[07:29] <cimon> asc:kay
[07:29] <NickGarvey> got it!
[07:29] <kravlin> h1st0: unfortunately a search of their forums revealed nothing
[07:29] <bur[n] er> Existz, I'm not sure where it is in kubuntu, but open a term, type "sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx-new"
[07:29] <FusE> bur[n] er, Or you could just help me fix my networking lol
[07:30] <bur[n] er> Zombie, sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[07:30] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dock - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:30] <ubotu> Ubuntu 7.04 (Feisty Fawn) is the latest version of Ubuntu. Upgrading to Feisty: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FeistyUpgrades - Downloading: http://www.ubuntu.com/download - For BitTorrent downloads, see !Torrents
[07:30] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about 7.04 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:30] <skollie> FusE: I asked you a question earlier- if you respond maybe I can help
[07:30] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about crontab - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:30] <FusE> I think I did
[07:30] <bur[n] er> FusE, sorry, try having skollie help :)
[07:30] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about avast - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:30] <ubotu> antivirus is something you don't really need on Linux, unless you serve windows clients. ClamAV and aegis are decent linux virusscanners. Also see !linuxvirus
[07:30] <ubotu> Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[07:30] <ant-> hes just now catching up
[07:30] <NickGarvey> ant-: I'd say so ;)
[07:30] <ubotu> kidbuntu: A/V software is available, however read this to understand why Linux does not have a virus problem: http://librenix.com/?inode=21
[07:30] <ubotu> cotyrothery: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[07:31] <FusE> skollie, I said that when I attempt to connect to ANYTHING, it doesn't connect
[07:31] <ant-> i told him to say no to drugs
[07:31] <Existz> burner
[07:31] <bur[n] er> FusE, sudo dhclient eth0 at a term
[07:31] <Existz> it says I already have it
[07:31] <bur[n] er> !enter | Existz
[07:31] <ubotu> Existz: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[07:31] <skollie> FusE: thn I asked if you were on a LAN and had a DHCP server
[07:31] <Existz> so what now?
[07:31] <bur[n] er> Existz, edit your xorg.conf file and change "nv" to "nvidia"
[07:31] <Existz> how do I edit in console mode?
[07:31] <NickGarvey> Existz: back up your old xorg.conf!!
[07:32] <NickGarvey> not one, but two !
[07:32] <ThePioneer> If I host an ip on port 80 over my wireless network and I get the page that says "It work!" how do I edit that? anyone?
[07:32] <bur[n] er> Existz, sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[07:32] <Nanoer> Would there be any conflict if I dual booted Ubuntu and Fedora?
[07:32] <bur[n] er> ThePioneer, /var/www/index.html
[07:32] <NickGarvey> ThePioneer: host an ip?
[07:32] <ThePioneer> Thanks
[07:32] <bur[n] er> NickGarvey, don't poke fun, you know what he meant ;)
[07:33] <NickGarvey> Nanoer: as long as grub knew where both were
[07:33] <FusE2> sorry, connection restarted
[07:33] <Existz> burner does it matter between nvidia or Nvidia?
[07:33] <Nanoer> Okay
[07:33] <NickGarvey> Existz: "nvidia"
[07:33] <bur[n] er> Existz, "nvidia"
[07:33] <Existz> k brb
[07:33] <networkgamer> anyone know of any good virtual machines for linux?
[07:33] <Zieen> sweet jesus it looks like i may have the latest ati drivers yet
[07:33] <NickGarvey> <- too fast
[07:33] <FusE2> skollie, The computer that is having network problems is using wirelss
[07:33] <NickGarvey> networkgamer: vmware is good, although closed
[07:33] <bur[n] er> networkgamer, virtual machine runner? or virtual machines?
[07:33] <networkgamer> something that does what qemu does kinda
[07:34] <Frogzoo> networkgamer: vmware
[07:34] <networkgamer> ok
[07:34] <bur[n] er> networkgamer, if you want to run virtual machines, vmware or virtualbox are killer
[07:34] <NickGarvey> !vmware > networkgamer
[07:34] <networkgamer> so itll work if i do apt-get install vmware
[07:34] <skollie> Fuse2: see if your device has an ip address - at a terminal run ifconfig
[07:34] <bur[n] er> qemu is slow ;)
[07:34] <Frogzoo> networkgamer: kqemu is faster, still not as stable as vmware
[07:34] <FusE2> k sec
[07:34] <NickGarvey> networkgamer: read the factoid
[07:34] <bur[n] er> networkgamer, you have to add the commercial repos to get vmware
[07:34] <bur[n] er> networkgamer, and virtualbox .debs are at virtualbox.org
[07:34] <Zieen> Does anyone know if i need a vm to run Ventrilo?
[07:34] <Frogzoo> networkgamer: it's a bit more complicated
[07:34] <NickGarvey> Zieen: no.. you can in wine, but it is a pain
[07:34] <NickGarvey> Zieen: like real big pain
[07:35] <FusE2> skollie, eth1 shows no ip address
[07:35] <NickGarvey> Zieen: and it is fuzzy and people in your guild will yell at you and tell you to fix your mic even though it isn't your mic
[07:35] <Frogzoo> bur[n] er: those debs have .vmx?
[07:35] <NickGarvey> not that I learned that out the hard way or anything
[07:35] <Zieen> uh huh
[07:35] <skollie> Fuse2: bring up eth1 - sudo ifup eth1 - and see what happens
[07:35] <bur[n] er> Frogzoo, excuse me?
[07:36] <Zieen> like prison sex pain or i stepped on a piece of glass pain?
[07:36] <networkgamer> anything i can just apt-get install for vm?
[07:36] <FusE2> k sec
[07:36] <NickGarvey> both at the same time
[07:36] <Frogzoo> networkgamer: nope
[07:36] <Zieen> hmm
[07:36] <Zieen> i'll look into alternatives lol
[07:36] <Zieen> i need ventrilo pretty bad
[07:36] <novato_br> i'm on windows, i wanna make ubuntu instalation from USB, i have the iso ubuntu 7.04, what are utilities that I need?
[07:36] <TheNo1Yeti> networkgamer: what you mean?  like vmserver or vmplayer?
[07:36] <atrayo> Any Gmail users? I cannot send attachments. I pick my file to attach, but when I try to send, it shows the load bar and "sending request..." but it never finishes. I use Feisty, FireFox <IP_ADDRESS>. I have tried disabling the firewall, I have tried the secure login site. Any ideas?
[07:36] <bur[n] er> FusE2, and if it does nothing... try "sudo dhclient eth1" to run a dhcp client to try to get an IP from your router
[07:36] <FusE2> skollie, it says eth1 is already configured
[07:36] <NickGarvey> atrayo: big attachment?
[07:36] <skollie> fuse2: bring it down and then up again
[07:36] <Zieen> I now have the latest functional ati drivers... should i attempt to install beryl now? lol
[07:37] <bur[n] er> atrayo, you could configure thunderbird or evolution for gmail
[07:37] <novato_br> !usb
[07:37] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about usb - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:37] <kravlin> I need a channel to talk about Counter-Strike: Source servers Any ideas?
[07:37] <bur[n] er> Zieen, or compiz fusion :)
[07:37] <atrayo> NickGarvey: no, its just an oog song, about 4megabytes
[07:37] <FusE2> k sec
[07:37] <bur[n] er> Zieen, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion
[07:37] <NickGarvey> atrayo: enable network monitoring (it is on the gnome panel), and watch to see if your network is being used while you are "uploading"
[07:38] <FusE2> skollie, by bringing it down do you mean close the window and reopen it?
[07:38] <FusE2> If so, then done
[07:38] <atrayo> bur[n] er: I might do that as a last resort, but I'd like to access it via the web if I can find a way
[07:38] <networkgamer> all i want is something to let me use a livecd while still in linux
[07:38] <skollie> fuse2: no - sudo ifdown eth1 - followed by sudo ifup eth1
[07:38] <FusE2> okay thanks
[07:38] <FusE2> brb sec
[07:38] <mhz`> question..i'm piping the results from a find to a file
[07:38] <atrayo> NickGarvey: OK I will try that, brb thanks
[07:38] <bur[n] er> networkgamer, vmware or virtualbox :)
[07:38] <mhz`> question..i'm piping the results from a find to a file and when i go to ls the file its file.lst?
[07:39] <Newbie_Dude> Do you guys use two panels (one one top, one on the bottom [default] ) or just one panel?
[07:39] <mhz`> any ideas why the ? shows up?
[07:39] <Zieen> i'll beback switching to ubuntu pc
[07:39] <NickGarvey> twooo
[07:39] <FusE2> k skollie done, in the terminal, Im getting alot of "DHCPDISCOVER" lines
[07:39] <FusE2> sec
[07:39] <purplestar> Hi all anybody knows an easy way to install real-player i tried to install it but i am having difficulties any one please advice.
[07:39] <Scout> Grr
[07:39] <NickGarvey> purplestar: could you be more specific please?
[07:39] <networkgamer> now im downloading virtualbox
[07:39] <skollie> fuse2: does it get an ip address in the end?
[07:39] <Scout> I used .debs to install pidgin, and now it doesn't show up in "Applications"
[07:40] <bur[n] er> Scout, applications -> internet -> pidgin?
[07:40] <FusE2> Skollie, no, it says "No DHCPOFFERS"
[07:40] <bur[n] er> FusE2, restart your router?  sure dhcp server is on in your router?
[07:40] <Scout> bur[n] er: Nope.
[07:40] <skollie> fuse2: ok. check your security settings - WEP or WAP etc
[07:40] <Newbie_Dude> !find dosbox
[07:40] <ubotu> Found: dosbox
[07:40] <bur[n] er> Scout, alt+f2, pidgin
[07:40] <FusE2> I know the key is correct
[07:40] <Scout> Nope.
[07:41] <bur[n] er>  Scout it's not installed then
[07:41] <Newbie_Dude> welcome back, ubotu :P
[07:41] <Scout> Poo.
[07:41] <FusE2> bur[n] er, obviously there is a dhcp server considering it was working in dapper
[07:41] <Existz> http://pastebin.com/m7e292576
[07:41] <Existz> burner
[07:41] <Scout> I am so used to .rpms
[07:41] <bur[n] er> FusE2, doesn't mean it's working
[07:41] <FusE2> its working
[07:41] <bur[n] er> FusE2, maybe there's a driver issue with your card and edgy
[07:41] <FusE2> skollie, should the actual key be set as hexidecimal or or ascii
[07:42] <bur[n] er> FusE2, can you set a static ip and try?
[07:42] <Existz> burner
[07:42] <Existz> did that
[07:42] <Existz> nothing
[07:42] <FusE2> What do you mean set a static ip, I only have a dynamic ip
[07:42] <Existz> same errors
[07:42] <bur[n] er> FusE2, system->administration->networking
[07:42] <Ziee1> wow i just locked up ubuntu
[07:42] <skollie> fuse2: whihcever, but should be the same on both sides
[07:42] <Ziee1> that doesn't quite seem right
[07:42] <ShockValue> ok, ive mounted a nfs share as root, and that works fine, but my 'regular user' is getting access denied when i try and access it..   as root the files/dirs look like this (drw-rw-rw-   2 nobody nogroup 904 2006-10-14 23:15 Get Born)  what am i missing here?
[07:42] <FusE2> sec
[07:42] <bur[n] er> FusE2, you just set one to be on the same range that your router gives out
[07:42] <FusE2> first Ill try setting as ASCII
[07:42] <purplestar> Nick i am tiring to install real player i have downloaded it and tried to run in command window but nothing happened i do not know what to do i am new to Ubuntu
[07:42] <bur[n] er> FusE2, e.g. <IP_ADDRESS> and <IP_ADDRESS> as gateway and dns
[07:42] <kidbuntu> !frostwire
[07:42] <ubotu> frostwire is a totally open source version of Limewire.  For installation help, please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FrostWire
[07:42] <gladier> hi guys - want to set up multiple secure wireless configs on a machine and have it auto select which one. any ideas?
[07:43] <NickGarvey> purplestar: when you try to run it in the command window, what happens?
[07:43] <Existz> burner it didn't work, here's the new xorg.conf
[07:43] <bur[n] er> Existz, are you using any custom kernel?
[07:43] <Existz> http://pastebin.com/m7e292576
[07:43] <atrayo> NickGarvey: I'm sorry, I'm not seeing the option Enable Network Monitoring, do you mean Devices - Network Tools?
[07:43] <bur[n] er> !enter | Existz
[07:43] <ubotu> Existz: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[07:43] <Existz> that I know of now, how do I find out what kernel i'm using?
[07:43] <peepsalot> i can't figure out how to record audio on this computer
[07:43] <Ziee1> Is Evolution better than Thunderbird?
[07:43] <bur[n] er> Existz, where the heck did the boardname line come from?
[07:43] <Existz> uname -r?
[07:43] <Existz> I have no idea
[07:43] <Existz> it was just there
[07:44] <bur[n] er> remove it :)
[07:44] <Existz> and try it again?
[07:44] <bur[n] er> and wtf, it got all messed up
[07:44] <Existz> how did it get messed up?
[07:44] <NickGarvey> atrayo: right click the top panel, add to panel, system monitor, rightclick the new item on your panel, and enable the network monitor
[07:44] <Ziee1> I need a better IRC client that gaim.  Any suggestions?  (I've used HydraIRC for as long as I can remember... and I think it's windows only)
[07:44] <purplestar> Nick nothing it just created that folder on my desktop but after that nothing.
[07:44] <NickGarvey> Ziee1: xchat is pretty good
[07:44] <TheNo1Yeti> Ziee1: xchat is good
[07:44] <asc> ShockValue: Most likely root has those permissions but the user doesn't. I don't know anything about NFS so I can't help much, but you might google 'linux nfs user write' or something.
[07:44] <kidbuntu> help please. I just installed frostwire and everytime i'm about to start it it automatically exits after a couple of seconds w/ or w/o doing anything
[07:45] <bur[n] er> !xorg.conf | Existz
[07:45] <ubotu> Existz: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[07:45] <atrayo> NickGarvey: Oh cool! Thanks I will go try it out now and comeback with results
[07:45] <TheNo1Yeti> Ziee1: Also LostIRC
[07:45] <ShockValue> asc: thanks, doing that now :)
[07:45] <Nanoer> Does Ubuntu, Kubuntu etc. all of them have Nautilus?
[07:45] <FusE2> skollie, so what should I do now....
[07:45] <asc> ShockValue: Good luck.
[07:45] <gsevil> gxine crash when I use beryl
[07:45] <Existz> yeah I know this
[07:45] <Existz> but what am I doing now?
[07:45] <FusE2> I pinged my router ip and it failed
[07:45] <Newbie_Dude> !find candycrisis
[07:45] <ubotu> Package/file candycrisis does not exist in feisty
[07:45] <gsevil> I have problem with gxine
[07:46] <bur[n] er> Existz, i have no idea, you hosed your xorg.conf file so bad... the changes in between what you had before and what you have now are so vast
[07:46] <gsevil> I crash when I use beryl
[07:46] <skollie> fuse2: do you have admin rights to the wireless router?
[07:46] <FusE2> Yes
[07:46] <Ziee1> xchat isn't free?
[07:46] <Existz> what I had before was the nv setup
[07:46] <Nanoer> gsevil: What's your video card?
[07:46] <peepsalot> i want to capture audio from playback, can anyone help me?
[07:46] <Existz> this is how nvidia drivers been running
[07:46] <darkclown_> anyone that could advice me about a good ftpserver program with gui available in the ubuntu repos?
[07:46] <bur[n] er> Existz, and instead of changing one line, you changed the whole file!
[07:46] <peepsalot> not able to get it working, i tried every single alsamixer combination
[07:46] <gsevil> Intel GMA
[07:46] <Existz> to what?
[07:46] <Megahacker> Hai,i'm agung from Indonesia,first i want to thanks ubuntu for the free CD
[07:46] <Nanoer> How many MB?
[07:47] <skollie> Fuse2: for a moment, make it open and see if you can connect
[07:47] <kidbuntu> help please. I just installed frostwire and everytime i'm about to start it it automatically exits after a couple of seconds w/ or w/o doing anything
[07:47] <FusE2> huh?
[07:47] <TheNo1Yeti> darkclown: Don't know if it is available in the ubuntu repos but proftp is fairly good and has a web based gui of sorts
[07:47] <bur[n] er> Existz, if you can get back to the file that had the "nv" driver, and only change that line in the file to say 'nvidia" it will work
[07:47] <Nanoer> You need Java runtime
[07:47] <Nanoer> kidbuntu: You need latest Java
[07:47] <skollie> fuse2: this is to see whether it has to do with your security settings
[07:47] <mhz`> fuck
[07:47] <mhz`> i just rm -rf *?
[07:47] <mhz`> god damnit
[07:47] <FusE2> make what open
[07:47] <Existz> I did and it did not work
[07:47] <mhz`> anyone know how to restore the home dir :/
[07:47] <Existz> is there anyone here running a geforce 8 series card?
[07:48] <Existz> on ubuntu
[07:48] <kidbuntu> but i'm currently using 1.5 jre. is there any latest than that?
[07:48] <Megahacker> Why i want to install ubuntu on virtual PC 2007 my pc always gets off????
[07:48] <bur[n] er> Existz, you want it exactly like http://pastebin.com/m7fe87fad but with nvidia instead of nv
[07:48] <kidbuntu> !java
[07:48] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre
[07:48] <FusE[Edgy] > skollie, make what open
[07:48] <networkgamer> i dont think ive had anything higher than shared graphics
[07:48] <thunderbolt> mhz`: if you did a rm -rf *, there's no easy way to get it back.
[07:48] <zieen> ubuntu comes with gtk 2.0 right?
[07:48] <networkgamer> unless you count my ati rage mobile
[07:48] <Nanoer> No clue but that's what the problem was with mine
[07:48] <gsevil> maybe virtual PC 2007 does not support ubuntu
[07:48] <skollie> fuse[Edgy] : just for a few mins while you test, disable security
[07:48] <mhz`> i thought rm -rf *?
[07:48] <gsevil> I get that problem too
[07:48] <FusE[Edgy] > >.< k
[07:48] <mneptok> kidbuntu: want the 1 minute fix? "sudo apt-get install gtk-gnutella"
[07:48] <mhz`> would just del the shit
[07:48] <gsevil> use VMware
[07:48] <mhz`> damnit
[07:48] <Megahacker> But my friend can install it
[07:48] <bur[n] er> mhz`, restore from backup
[07:49] <mhz`> ha!
[07:49] <mhz`> :/
[07:49] <towlieban> when i boot the live cd if i make changes like installing video,wifi drivers, are all those changed saved if i install after that
[07:49] <mhz`> ugh
[07:49] <towlieban> or should i install first then install the drivers
[07:49] <bur[n] er> towlieban, install first
[07:49] <bullgard4> My computer contains 40 files with 'hwmon' in its name but a kernel module 'hwmon' is not loaded. Can one explain to me the concept of 'hwmon'?
[07:49] <mhz`> i deleted my home dir
[07:49] <mhz`> i can't believe this shit
[07:49] <asc> mhz: If any of the files are open, they're easy to recover.
[07:50] <Nanoer> did you perma delete or like trash delete?
[07:50] <tritium> mhz`: watch the language, please
[07:50] <Megahacker> Why no one in this channel want to help me
[07:50] <bur[n] er> Nanoer, he perma deleted via term and rm-rf
[07:50] <purplestar> Nick are you there ?
[07:50] <NickGarvey> Megahacker: I can't understand you
[07:50] <networkgamer> megahacker:what?
[07:50] <Nanoer> Oh then I don't know about Ubuntu recovery if he did that
[07:50] <NickGarvey> purplestar: yes, use my full name ("NickGarvey") so it will highlight your message and alert me though
[07:50] <mhz`> asc, just mkdir brendan again?
[07:50] <thunderbolt> Hmm, I wonder if anyone here has there home directory under revision control.
[07:51] <bur[n] er> Megahacker, because virtual pc 2007 is crap... see vmware or virtualbox
[07:51] <towlieban> rm -rf / the cause of and solution to all of life's problems (in unix/linux/bsd)
[07:51] <FusE[Edgy] > thanks skollie, now we know that security is the problem
[07:51] <Megahacker> ARGHHHHHH what da shit....
[07:51] <FusE[Edgy] > I disabled security and it worked
[07:51] <NickGarvey> purplestar: you can probably type "nickg[tab] " and that'll do it (hit tab, don't type [tab] )
[07:51] <mneptok> towlieban: don't, please
[07:51] <NickGarvey> !ohmy | Megahacker
[07:51] <ubotu> Megahacker: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[07:51] <FusE[Edgy] > now I need it anabled
[07:51] <towlieban> mneptok i wasnt telling anyone to do it
[07:51] <Megahacker> okay
[07:51] <NickGarvey> towlieban: never, ever ever give false commands that could cause damage
[07:51] <skollie> FusE[Edgy] : so go through your security settings and make sure it is set up as it should be
[07:51] <Megahacker> but help me
[07:51] <purplestar> NickGarvey ok
[07:51] <FusE[Edgy] > skollie, it works on windows still ( last time I checked )
[07:51] <mneptok> towlieban: the words themselves make me panic
[07:51] <bur[n] er> Megahacker, vmware.com or virtualbox.org and download a decent virtual machine program
[07:52] <towlieban> so cat /dev/null > /dev/hda isnt a good thing to do ?
[07:52] <asc> mhz`: That won't do much. But for example, if you'd had a movie file or document or something open, it wouldn't actually be deleted until you closed it. Until then, it would be easy to recover.
[07:52] <tritium> bur[n] er: we're trying to keep the channel appropriate for work and family
[07:52] <towlieban> hahahaha
[07:52] <Megahacker> thanks
[07:52] <mhz`> someone mentioned a unix back up/recovery app here
[07:52] <mhz`>  a sourceforge one
[07:52] <Existz> k brb
[07:52] <mhz`> anyone remember?
[07:52] <facugaich> How come when I oggdec(ode) a 17 mb file I get a 7mb .wav?
[07:52] <skollie> FusE[Edgy] : probably because your settings are correct in windows
[07:52] <kidbuntu> !java
[07:52] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre
[07:52] <mneptok> kidbuntu: want the 1 minute fix? "sudo apt-get install gtk-gnutella"
[07:52] <kidbuntu> 1 minute fix did'nt work. after a couple of seconds still it exits
[07:53] <ozzman> Hi, Using Thunderbird mail i cant seem to access my gmail account. i have activated pop but still nothing
[07:53] <mneptok> kidbuntu: run the app GTK-Gnutella
[07:53] <bur[n] er> ozzman, make sure you use ssl and the correct ports
[07:53] <mneptok> kidbuntu: it's in the Internet menu
[07:53] <kidbuntu> mneoptok: ok
[07:53] <MegaIRC> Guys. How do I get Java onto Ubuntu Feisty?
[07:53] <bur[n] er> ozzman, login to gmail, click settings, go to pop and forwarding, then click the thing that shows you how to configure your mail client, and click thunderbird
[07:53] <MegaIRC> So I can IRC chat in the browser.
[07:53] <purplestar> NickGarvey nothing it just created that folder on my desktop but after that nothing.
[07:53] <NickGarvey> !java | MegaIRC
[07:53] <ubotu> MegaIRC: To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre
[07:53] <tritium> !java > MegaIRC
[07:53] <bur[n] er> MegaIRC, sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[07:54] <NickGarvey> purplestar: you didn't notice any network spike?
[07:54] <Elliot_M> Does ne1 know ne good firewall prgrams and securty programs for ubuntu 7.04
[07:54] <bur[n] er> Elliot_M, firestarter
[07:54] <SeveredCross> chkrootkit, Firestarter, ClamAV.
[07:54] <tritium> bur[n] er: "puritans" is an unfair characterization
[07:55] <tylo> i apologize if this is in the wrong channel
[07:55] <Elliot_M> does ne1 recommend a must have
[07:55] <skollie> !firewall | ElliotM
[07:55] <purplestar> NickGarve what is that?
[07:55] <tylo> but can someone direct me to the help channel for wput?
[07:55] <ubotu> ElliotM: Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).
[07:55] <MegaIRC> When I try to sudo, I get a password prompt but I can't type anything into mit.
[07:55] <NickGarvey> purplestar: a network spike? you enabled the network monitor right?
[07:55] <bur[n] er> Elliot_M, nope, you're pretty secure without any of it
[07:56] <Elliot_M> ok
[07:56] <bur[n] er> MegaIRC, you can, it just doesn't give feedback to show that you are typing
[07:56] <Elliot_M> thnx guys
[07:56] <NickGarvey> tylo: it is unlikely there will be a channel just for that command
[07:56] <MegaIRC> bur[n] er, thanks.
[07:56] <tylo> ah shoot
[07:56] <FusE[Edgy] > skollie, now I have problems, I turned security back on, ifdown'ed, then ifup'ed and it ubuntu crashed. Then I rebooted and now ubuntu wont fully load
[07:56] <NickGarvey> tylo: you could try asking in here, although the man page would probably be your best bet
[07:56] <purplestar> NickGarve do i need that for real-player
[07:56] <tylo> I need to install wput, but im afraid of busting the box
[07:56] <tylo> im a newbie at this
[07:56] <NickGarvey> purplestar: I got you mixed up with someone else!
[07:57] <bur[n] er> FusE[Edgy] , sure you got completely upgraded?  sounds like not everything was downloaded... can you boot an older kernel to get online again?
[07:57] <skollie> FusE[Edgy] : did you change anything else?
[07:57] <NickGarvey> tylo: "sudo apt-get install wput" should do it, assuming you have the universe repository
[07:57] <mneptok> tylo: open a terminal. sudo apt-get install wput
[07:57] <NickGarvey> mneptok: to slow
[07:57] <NickGarvey> !real > purplestar
[07:57] <FusE[Edgy] > no thats all I changed. yes i completely upgraded. I just booted into recovery mode >.<
[07:57] <tylo> in my /home folder?
[07:57] <jaypro> heh...is this a competition?
[07:57] <NickGarvey> tylo: doesn't matter where
[07:57] <NickGarvey> jaypro: always
[07:57] <Zieen> I keep locking up.  Is there a log file I should be looking at to find out why?
[07:57] <bur[n] er> tylo, you open a terminal and type that in
[07:58] <FusE[Edgy] > crap
[07:58] <gsevil> my graphic is Intel GMA, gxine crash when I use beryl
[07:58] <NickGarvey> gsevil: #ubuntu-effects
[07:58] <FusE[Edgy] > while booting into recovery mode, it says "Kernel panic - failed ...."
[07:58] <purplestar> NickGarve yes i need to install realplayer
[07:58] <skollie> FusE[Edgy] : strange - not sure what happened there...
[07:58] <FusE[Edgy] > while booting into recovery mode, it says "Kernel panic - failed ...."
[07:58] <NickGarvey> purplestar: read the links ubotu sent you
[07:58] <Newbie_Dude> Do any of you use 7ZIP, or is the basic compression software bundled with Ubuntu sufficient for compression and decompression?
[07:58] <FusE[Edgy] > should I try booting to a old version
[07:58] <NickGarvey> FusE[Edgy] : that is a very bad thing
[07:58] <skollie> FusE[Edgy] : yes, if you can
[07:58] <NickGarvey> Newbie_Dude: I find "tar" does the job for just about everything, unrar for rar files, and unzip for zip files
[07:58] <jaypro> NickGarvey> okay.  solve this one.  how do you enable internet sharing without using firestarter?
[07:59] <purplestar> NickGarve ok
[07:59] <mneptok> Newbie_Dude: i like tar + bzip2
[07:59] <tylo> thanks!
[07:59] <NickGarvey> jaypro: firestarter wouldn't be used to enable it, it would be used to block it ;)
[07:59] <tylo> :)
[07:59] <bur[n] er> jaypro, hacking .conf files
[07:59] <bur[n] er> NickGarvey, liar, firestarter is a good way to enable it
[07:59] <Newbie_Dude> mneptok, NickGarvey, bur[n] er -- OK, I'll try "tar" :)
[07:59] <NickGarvey> bur[n] er: lemme check
[07:59] <tylo> NickGarvey: if you are into comic books at all, and ever need a comic, let me know
[07:59] <tylo> heh
[07:59] <bur[n] er> Newbie_Dude, no matter what you use, file-roller can do them all
[07:59] <FusE[Edgy] > skollie, booting to an old version works
[07:59] <jaypro> NickGarvey> what? 1st person out of 3 that said to not use firestarter
[07:59] <thunderbolt> Newbie_Dude: It's a command line utility, FYI.
[07:59] <tylo> that's about all i can offer by way of thanks
[07:59] <jaypro> bur[n] er> wheres that config?
[08:00] <Newbie_Dude> thunderbolt: (;@_@)
[08:00] <NickGarvey> jaypro: uhm..
[08:00] <mneptok> Newbie_Dude: tar does not compress. it only creates single files from multiple files/directories
[08:00] <bur[n] er> jaypro, just use firestarter
[08:00] <skollie> FusE[Edgy] : bootloader messed up, it seems.
[08:00] <thunderbolt> thunderbolt: tar is, ark is the GUI that comes with ubuntu, it uses tar behind the scenes.
[08:00] <NickGarvey> your call
[08:00] <jaypro> bur[n] er> thats the problem... i cant seem to enable firestarter
[08:00] <NickGarvey> jaypro: wait, "internet sharing"
[08:00] <thunderbolt> er, Newbie_Dude: tar is command line, ark comes with Ubuntu and uses tar, gzip, zip, bz2 behind the scenes.
[08:00] <bur[n] er> thunderbolt, ark is kubuntu and kde centric... fileroller is ubuntu adn gnome centric
[08:01] <NickGarvey> jaypro: as in.. nfs like? or like sharing the actual connection?
[08:01] <Existz> burner
[08:01] <bullgard4> My computer contains 40 files with 'hwmon' in its name but a kernel module 'hwmon' is not loaded. Can one explain to me the concept of 'hwmon'?
[08:01] <Existz> same problem
[08:01] <jaypro> bur[n] er> i mean, i can run the program, but i cant start the firewall
[08:01] <Existz> didn't fix anything at all
[08:01] <MegaIRC> If I switch out my Matrox Millenium 450 and put in an ATI Radeon 9300, will ubuntu automatically detect it and integrate finely with it?
[08:01] <NickGarvey> jaypro: if you want NAT, firestarter would be the way to go heh
[08:01] <thunderbolt> bur[n] er: Thanks, my brain melted a little bit, been using KDE too much ;-)
[08:01] <dissection> Hello, I have the trash icon on the tasbkar but not on the desktop. How can I bring it onto the desktop?
[08:01] <Existz> I did exactly as you said
[08:01] <FusE[Edgy] > err skollie, actually I booted to edgy, it seems the top entry and the one below it are edgy, but the top one doesnt work
[08:01] <FusE[Edgy] > what do i do
[08:01] <Existz> nothing
[08:01] <mneptok> Newbie_Dude: right-click any file/folder you want to compress, and select "Create Archive." create a .tar.bz2 that way
[08:01] <bur[n] er> Existz, try "sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx" instead, though I swear -new is what you want
[08:02] <skollie> FusE[Edgy] : did you boot into edgy?
[08:02] <jaypro> NickGarvey> i have 2 cards, a wireless and regular... i connect to the internet thru the wireless card, and i want to have a windows machine connected thru my ubuntu box
[08:02] <Newbie_Dude> mneptok : thanks, I'll just stick with the basic Ubuntu program then (archive creater or whatever it's called)
[08:02] <FusE[Edgy] > skollie, booting to 2.6.15-28-386 works
[08:02] <tylo> one other question about wput: is it located in /bin/sh/home/users/USERNAME/wput?
[08:02] <FusE[Edgy] > and when I booted to it, it said edgy
[08:02] <NickGarvey> jaypro: ah, like a cross over?
[08:02] <mneptok> Newbie_Dude: right-clicking *is* the basic. try it. :)
[08:02] <skollie> FusE[Edgy] : so make that your default boot
[08:02] <FusE[Edgy] > but when I booted into 2.6.17-11-386, it failed to boot
[08:02] <Existz> I did new
[08:02] <tofaffy> When is a new version of ubunt uspposed to be released as stable?
[08:02] <Existz> but ok
[08:02] <jaypro> NickGarvey> i dont know what that is
[08:02] <Existz> we'll try that
[08:02] <Existz> damn
[08:02] <FusE[Edgy] > my default boot is windows
[08:02] <Guest6666> hello
[08:02] <NickGarvey> jaypro: well you will need one if you want to share network with windows through a single cable
[08:02] <bur[n] er> tofaffy, 7.10 is to be released in october of 2007
[08:03] <NickGarvey> jaypro: cross over is for pc to pc networking, your standard cat5 is for router/modem to pc networking
[08:03] <premier_> Hi, X started crashing when I try to log in... this started rather suddenly, it worked well before.  I bring up kdm, and then log in, and the screen flashes (an X crash) and then I get kdm again... so I reconfigured to make gdm the default, and I could only login to a root session... so here I am... what the *** do I try to do?
[08:03] <skollie> FusE[Edgy] : default ubuntu
[08:03] <Existz> k brb
[08:03] <Frogzoo> tofaffy: 10/2007
[08:03] <Guest6666> first time X Chat in Ubuntu :)
[08:03] <bur[n] er> FusE[Edgy] , i'm tellin ya, just get feisty ;)  you'll be so much happier than with edgy
[08:03] <NickGarvey> premier_: I would do the following
[08:03] <mneptok> premier_: /join #kubuntu
[08:03] <purplestar> NickGarve the links that you sent me dos not talk about how i can install realplayer please advice.
[08:03] <FusE[Edgy] > burner, im geting feisty, but I have to get network working first
[08:03] <skollie> FusE[Edgy] :  bur[n] er is correct
[08:03] <jaypro> NickGarvey> need one what?  it goes modem, wireless router, ubuntu box with 2 ethernet cards, then windows box...
[08:03] <NickGarvey> premier_: mv ~/.gnome2 ~/.gnome2bak && mv ~/.gconf ~/.gconfbak
[08:03] <Scout> When I try and use ./configure on my files I get "checking for C compiler default output file name... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables"
[08:04] <tofaffy> gah....soooooo long....I'm hoping a new version will fix my mouse. I'm doing something,a mdy mouse freezes, the only thign that will xi ti is so restart the pc. if I try and do CTRL+ALT+BACKSPACE all I get is a frozen comptuer. Unplug and plug back up does ablsolutely nothing. I try and modprobe my usbhid and it still does nothing. I've tried somany solutions with none fixing it yet.
[08:04] <MegaIRC> Fellows: Should I install Kubuntu, or just get KDE on my current Ubuntu?
[08:04] <skollie> FusE[Edgy] : when you get your connection working, do an oline upgrade to feisty
[08:04] <DisabledDuck> i have a certain website that i have to go to for my job that requires internet explorer to go to, is there anything that emulates internet explorer that i can use?
[08:04] <bur[n] er> MegaIRC, just get kde on your current :)
[08:04] <FusE[Edgy] > skollie, thats what Im trying to do
[08:04] <Existz> fuck yeah!
[08:04] <MegaIRC> bur[n] er, thanks
[08:04] <NickGarvey> purplestar: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RealplayerInstallationMethods
[08:04] <Existz> it worked
[08:04] <Existz> burner
[08:04] <premier_> NickGarvey: I doubt that would fix it since I can't run any window manager, even something like IceWM
[08:04] <Existz> that finally worked
[08:04] <NickGarvey> !ohmy | Existz
[08:04] <ubotu> Existz: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[08:04] <FusE[Edgy] > only thing I can do is disable security then upgrade, but that is very unsafe
[08:04] <Existz> wait a min
[08:04] <bur[n] er> Existz, don't be lame!
[08:04] <Existz> damn
[08:04] <gsevil> nobody at #ubuntu-effect
[08:04] <NickGarvey> premier_: oh? nothing?
[08:04] <jaypro> NickGarvey> crossover is a program?
[08:04] <tylo> one other question about wput: is it located in /bin/sh/home/users/USERNAME/wput?
[08:04] <skollie> FusE[Edgy] : so let's see about your wireless
[08:04] <Existz> no nvidia logo
[08:04] <NickGarvey> jaypro: it is a cable
[08:04] <tylo> sorry about the repeat
[08:04] <Existz> no nvidia logo showed up
[08:05] <bur[n] er> Existz, i really want to help you, but you're sucking a whole lot
[08:05] <mneptok> DisabledDuck: Opera can spoof as IE. so can Konqueror.
[08:05] <FusE[Edgy] > see what
[08:05] <jaypro> NickGarvey> oh the cable... yeah i have the cat5 cable hooked up
[08:05] <Existz> man, i've done all i've could
[08:05] <skollie> if it works...
[08:05] <gsevil> gxine crash when I use beryl, does anyone know how to fix
[08:05] <premier_> NickGarvey: no, nothing
[08:05] <NickGarvey> jaypro: is it a cross over though? it won't work otherwise
[08:05] <tofaffy> does anyone have any ideas on how to fix my mosue problem?
[08:05] <FusE[Edgy] > it doesnt atm, with security on
[08:05] <jaypro> NickGarvey> i just have trouble getting internet to the windows pc
[08:05] <NickGarvey> premier_: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[08:05] <Scout> When I try and use ./configure on my files I get "checking for C compiler default output file name... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables" what do I do?
[08:05] <bur[n] er> Existz, i don't mean that you didn't get it to work, i mean the one word chats and the swearing
[08:05] <skollie> FusE[Edgy] : security problems with wireless is usually on the client side, so double-check
[08:05] <NickGarvey> Scout: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[08:05] <atdt_> dangit
[08:05] <Existz> what you got against swearing?
[08:05] <Existz> anyways
[08:06] <Scout> NickGarvey: Thanks.
[08:06] <Existz> it didn't work
[08:06] <bur[n] er> Existz, even though you don't have the nvidia logo does not mean it didn't work... did you change the Driver to "nvidia"
[08:06] <NickGarvey> Existz: read the code of conduct
[08:06] <Existz> yes I did
[08:06] <bur[n] er> Existz, open a term, type "glxinfo |grep direct"
[08:06] <Existz> I just ran glxinfo | grep -i opengl
[08:06] <NickGarvey> Existz: this channel, and all channels that are offical ubuntu channels follow the CoC
[08:06] <jaypro> NickGarvey> you lost me as to what it is exactly.  i have a cat5 cable that links the ubuntu and windows pc
[08:06] <Existz> k
[08:06] <Existz> let me try
[08:06] <atdt_> I've just installed the glx legacy drivers for this laptop with a Geforce 2 Go and I can't remember how to edit xorg.conf right
[08:06] <NickGarvey> jaypro: http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&ct=res&cd=1&url=http%3A%2F%2Fen.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FCrossover_cable&ei=8GeYRrLyE4ygec6y2KgK&usg=AFQjCNFLQxyB7HZP30aKiZrGcZUWK49jcA&sig2=wD9r3zmMh9a8aQIWdHdacg
[08:06] <NickGarvey> jaypro: sorry
[08:06] <atdt_> I've been  using windows for too long
[08:06] <NickGarvey> jaypro: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crossover_cable
[08:06] <bur[n] er> jaypro, you need a cat 5 crossover if no switch or router in between
[08:07] <Existz> says GLX missing on display 0
[08:07] <h4ngedm4n> Existz: use glxinfo to see if the hardware acceleration is on instead of looking for  a log
[08:07] <h4ngedm4n> *logo
[08:07] <bur[n] er> atdt_, just change the Driver "nv" line to Driver "nvidia" and save it
[08:07] <Existz> couldn't find RGB GLX visual
[08:07] <atdt_> thanks
[08:07] <Existz> that's what it's giving me
[08:07] <h4ngedm4n> bleh sorry I see bur[n] er already said that
[08:07] <bur[n] er> Existz, edit your xorg.conf to really say "nvidia" instead of nv, you obviously didn't
[08:07] <NickGarvey> "glxinfo | grep dir" is usually better actually
[08:07] <Existz> I swear I did
[08:08] <Existz> grips and grips of times
[08:08] <bur[n] er> check again ;)
[08:08] <tofaffy> My mouse, randomly freezes during me being logged it. Then only thing that will fix it is restarting my comptuer.  I have treid unpluggina nd pluggingmy mouse bakc in, still no luck. I'm using a USB Logitech Marble Mouse. Does anyone ahve any idea how to fix my mosue problem?
[08:08] <h4ngedm4n> odd, i didnt have to edit anything, I just checked "restricted drivers" and it worked
[08:08] <tofaffy> and sorry for bad typing :)
[08:08] <bur[n] er> Existz, if you did, it would either work, or give you no X at all
[08:08] <ThanatosDrive> Is it possible to get Flash on Ubuntu?
[08:08] <FusE[Edgy] > oh yay its working now skollie
[08:08] <FusE[Edgy] > thanks
[08:08] <Existz> there's multiple .conf's
[08:08] <Zieen> chatzilla... interesting little bugger
[08:08] <Existz> could those be affecting it?
[08:08] <FusE[Edgy] > I retyped the key >.<
[08:08] <skollie> FusE[Edgy] : np
[08:08] <FusE[Edgy] > thanks
[08:08] <NickGarvey> !flash > ThanatosDrive
[08:08] <bur[n] er> !flash | ThanatosDrive
[08:08] <ubotu> ThanatosDrive: To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[08:08] <FusE[Edgy] > ima upgrade to feisty
[08:08] <NickGarvey> <- faster
[08:08] <atdt_> there is no nv line
[08:08] <atdt_> it already says nvidia
[08:08] <Silver> tofaffy: sounds like u need a new mouse bro... its dieing
[08:09] <NickGarvey> atdt_: and it works?
[08:09] <dissection> Hello, I have the trash icon on the tasbkar but not on the desktop. How can I bring it onto the desktop?
[08:09] <NickGarvey> atdt_: X works?
[08:09] <Zieen> beryl or compix?
[08:09] <atdt_> no, it does not
[08:09] <tofaffy> Silver, i've tried it on two different mouses, one a brand new mouse.
[08:09] <tego> what is better dillo or firefox and why?
[08:09] <tylo> NickGarvey: Sorry to ask again, but do you know where WPUT is installed: ie, /bin/wput
[08:09] <atdt_> doesn't even start KDE login
[08:09] <tylo> or something like that
[08:09] <skollie> FusE[Edgy] : good luck with Feisty. Don't forget to change your nick <smile>
[08:09] <towlieban> is 5GB enough for a basic install of feisty
[08:09] <atdt_> tego: for most people, firefox
[08:09] <NickGarvey> tylo: type "which wput"
[08:09] <tofaffy> I have noticed that every time it dies I check my /var/log/messages...and it says somethign abotu the gconf server not being needed and shutting down right at the time my mouse dies.
[08:09] <jaypro> NickGarvey> bur[n] er> http://mikelin.ca/blog/wp-content/uploads/2006/09/ethernet-crossover-cable.gif looks like a regular cat5 cable.  if you want to call it crossover, thats what i have =P
[08:09] <bur[n] er> tego, firefox is cooler, but dillo is fast on low spec machines
[08:09] <FusE[Edgy] > lol I wont
[08:09] <tylo> thank!
[08:09] <tylo> s
[08:09] <FusE[Edgy] > im on a dummy computer
[08:09] <thunderbolt> I thought dillo was dead?
[08:09] <NickGarvey> jaypro: did you read the wikipedia article? they are not the same thing
[08:10] <atdt_> becuase using dillo for web browsing is like using a compaq 386 for watching movies
[08:10] <NickGarvey> atdt_: amen to that
[08:10] <bur[n] er> jaypro, they are different... one will work, one will not
[08:10] <Existz> ok brb
[08:10] <NickGarvey> bur[n] er: well put ;)
[08:10] <Nanoer> Is ubuntu an attended installation?
[08:10] <bullgard4> towlieban: Yes, but my Feisty is now 8 GB already.
[08:10] <NickGarvey> Nanoer: yes
[08:10] <atdt_> ok, it said something about "No device instance for (PCI bus address was here) in xorg.conf
[08:10] <atdt_> or something like that
[08:10] <Nanoer> How often?
[08:10] <tofaffy> Silver, did you see what I said?
[08:11] <tofaffy> I just can't stand thismouse dying at random times...sometimes it's lasted up to an hour...sometimes it dies right after login.
[08:11] <Nanoer> After the beginning part of selecting partitions when do you next have to come back?
[08:11] <Zieen> do i have to edit xorg.conf to get a resolution higher than 1024x768 and a depth greater than 24-bit?
[08:11] <jaypro> bur[n] er> NickGarvey> ahhhhh interesting.... i had no idea i needed another type of cable
[08:11] <NickGarvey> Nanoer: hm.. after it has copied all the files I assume
[08:11] <skollie> tofaffy: maybe get a new mouse?
[08:11] <atdt_> can somebody help me
[08:11] <tofaffy> I've tried on two different mouses.
[08:11] <atdt_> I need a gui
[08:11] <Silver> tofaffy: did u try to unplug it and plug it back in? sometimes that works. maybe try reinstalling the drivers or use different drivers. if its a problem with the gconfig server i really dont know.
[08:11] <tofaffy> I have no ps/2 port so...yeah...and yes I tried doing that too.
[08:11] <Nanoer> Ah okay So I can leave it overnight and it'll just take a few minutes in the morning?
[08:11] <NickGarvey> atdt_: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[08:11] <bur[n] er> jaypro, or a switch or router in between them
[08:12] <atdt_> I CAN'T HANDLE BITCHX
[08:12] <NickGarvey> Nanoer: more or less
[08:12] <LukeEkblad> Hello, I need some help, I want to download wine on my ubuntu computer.  I was wondering how to make it so when I install it, ubuntu stays and I can use both wine and ubuntu.  Thanks.
[08:12] <Nanoer> okay thanks
[08:12] <atdt_> NickGarvey , thanl you
[08:12] <asc> Zieen: 32 bit == 24 bit. For resolution though, you can use what NickGarvey just said to reconfigure.
[08:12] <Scout> Now I get: The msgfmt command is required to build libpurple.  If it is installed
[08:12] <Scout> on your system, ensure that it is in your path.  If it is not, install
[08:12] <Scout> GNU gettext to continu.
[08:12] <bur[n] er> atdt_, might I suggest irssi over bitchx :)
[08:12] <jaypro> bur[n] er> NickGarvey> but how come it works when i tied up to laptops with a regular cat5 cable
[08:12] <Scout> What do I do? =D
[08:12] <tofaffy> LukeEkblad, you run wine IN ubuntu...
[08:12] <NickGarvey> jaypro: I doubt it did?
[08:12] <atdt_> LukeEkblad, wine is a linux program, not an OS
[08:12] <kr00lplatinum> Can someone help me with my audio?
[08:12] <h4ngedm4n> yeah irssi is pretty good, xchat is also easy to use
[08:12] <atdt_> when you install wine, it acts as part of Ubuntu
[08:12] <bur[n] er> jaypro, cause you had a crossover then?  or a router/switch in between :)
[08:12] <LukeEkblad> atdt_:  what???
[08:12] <skollie> kr00lplatinum: what's wrong?
[08:12] <jaypro> NickGarvey> oh hrmm....weird
[08:13] <bur[n] er> Scout, you need libpurple :)
[08:13] <atdt_> LukeEkblad, wine just makes it so ubunty can use windows programs
[08:13] <Brent_> Hello everyone
[08:13] <LukeEkblad> atdt_:  wow, cool, so its just a program?
[08:13] <atdt_> *ubuntu
[08:13] <atdt_> yes
[08:13] <Scout> Bah.
[08:13] <NickGarvey> !wine | LukeEkblad
[08:13] <ubotu> LukeEkblad: wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[08:13] <jaypro> bur[n] er> <NickGarvey> cool fellas!  thanks!
[08:13] <bur[n] er> Scout, did you get pidgin .deb and pidgin-data .deb?
[08:13] <towlieban> how much swap space should i set up if i have 2GB of ram ?
[08:13] <NickGarvey> "Why think when you can link?" -- my motto
[08:13] <purplestar> NickGarve thanks
[08:13] <LukeEkblad> atdt_:  how big is it?
[08:13] <NickGarvey> towlieban: probably ~1-2G
[08:13] <bur[n] er> Scout, both are here:  http://www.getdeb.net/release.php?id=1045
[08:13] <h4ngedm4n> swap space depends on your application
[08:14] <Existz> burner here's what is says
[08:14] <h4ngedm4n> this double your ram rule is plain silly an obsolete
[08:14] <kr00lplatinum> skollie: i have 2 audio cars an onboard Nvida and a Creative. I want to get the Nvidia to work every time i log on but i'm not sure how to do that. I've selected Nvida and restarted the pc. Sometimes it will come on and i can hear audio most of the time i can't. Any suggestions?
[08:14] <NickGarvey> towlieban: there is no "right" answer to that
[08:14] <tritium> towlieban: go with 2 (the max) so you can suspend
[08:14] <Brent_> I have Ubuntu installed on an external HD, and Grub installed on my internal laptop drive(since it wouldn't work anywhere else). But when my external drive isn't attached, I get an error 21 in Grub. Is there any way to still boot to Windows when the drive isn't there?
[08:14] <Zieen> i just finally got my video drivers working... is that xserver-xorg reconf going to create new problems?
[08:14] <andre357> how do you run "install-sh" files in the terminal?
[08:14] <bullgard4> My computer contains 40 files with 'hwmon' in its name but a kernel module 'hwmon' is not loaded. Can one explain to me the concept of 'hwmon'?
[08:14] <mohammed> why openoffice won't start when I enable the propriety driver for my ATI Radeon 9600 card ?
[08:14] <LukeEkblad> atdt_:   Is there any risk in installing it?
[08:14] <atdt_> LukeEkblad, some kilobytes
[08:14] <atdt_> no
[08:14] <atdt_> it should work automagically
[08:14] <NickGarvey> Brent_: chances are, grub is looking for config files on the external hard drive, you will need to reconfigure the boot loader
[08:14] <Existz> api mismatch: the nvidia driver components has the version 1.0-9755 but this x module has version 1.0-9631. pleasure make sure that the kernel module and all nvidia driver components have the same version.
[08:14] <LukeEkblad> atdt_:  not even a megabyte?
[08:15] <skollie> kr00lplatinum: not sure. no experience with Nvidia cards. Have you checked your mixer settings?
[08:15] <Silver> tofaffy: this might help you if you havnt read it already https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.20/+bug/84762
[08:15] <NickGarvey> Brent_: the way I did that, was I installed grub to the external HD, not the MBR, and then told the computer to boot from the external when it was plugged in
[08:15] <Brent_> I'm still new to this. I've been troubleshooting it for the last 48 hours, and finally got it to work. But I don't know how to reconfigure what I need
[08:15] <asc> towlieban: Probably you don't need any unless you want to suspend. But 256 MB is probably a good idea, just to be safe.
[08:15] <Brent_> I already tried that, but then Grub wouldn't work
[08:15] <Existz> burner you still there?
[08:15] <NickGarvey> Brent_: step one would be to boot your windows recovery cd and run "fixmbr"
[08:15] <atdt_> I forget, sincfe this is a laptop should I enable the framebuffer interface or not
[08:15] <bur[n] er> Existz, awww... you need to reconfigure the kernel headers... one sec
[08:15] <kr00lplatinum> skollie: yes it's selected, the nvidia but no audio
[08:15] <Existz> k
[08:15] <Existz> thanks
[08:15] <kidbuntu> where can i get the previous old version of frostwire. its much more stable
[08:16] <tofaffy> crap...brb, just froze up, Silver when i get back pleease give me the link again.
[08:16] <atdt_> kidbuntu: download it with Frostwire
[08:16] <skollie> kr00lplatinum: outputs and volumes ok?
[08:16] <Brent_> Yeah, I've had to do that a couple times already, but how can I go back and put Grub on my external drive again so it works? When it was there before, no OS would load
[08:16] <Scout> "You must have the GLib 2.0 development headers installed to build."
[08:16] <Scout> Where do I get that?
[08:16] <kr00lplatinum> skollie: yeah
[08:16] <Silver> tofaffy: ok bro
[08:16] <NickGarvey> Scout: "apt-cache search glib dev" should show you what you need
[08:16] <atdt_> With a laptop, do I enable the framebuffer interface or not
[08:16] <skollie> kr00lplatinum: you need someone with Nvidia to help- sorry
[08:16] <dissection> Hello. I have a problem. I sent a folder to the trash and when I try to delete it from there, it says that I don't have permissions to modify its parent folder. What do I need to do to get rid of those file?
[08:16] <NickGarvey> !info linux-libc-dev
[08:16] <ubotu> linux-libc-dev: Linux Kernel Headers for development. In component main, is optional. Version 2.6.20-16.29 (feisty), package size 651 kB, installed size 3784 kB
[08:17] <bur[n] er> Existz, sudo dpkg-reconfigure kernel-headers-$(uname -r)
[08:17] <NickGarvey> Scout: that one
[08:17] <asc> Brent_: The problem is probably that GRUB loads its' configuration file from the Ubuntu drive.
[08:17] <kr00lplatinum> Anyone know NVIDIA AUDIO?
[08:17] <atdt_> dissection: move the folder back, open a terminal window, "sudo rm -rf folder" where folder is the name of the folder
[08:17] <dropety> Existz: try switching to a tarminal, stoppoing gdm, rmmod nvidia and modprobe nvidia again, then starting gdm again
[08:17] <Brent_> Can I move the config files without changing anything else?
[08:17] <ThanatosDrive> How come when I hover over a favicon in FireFox, it produces this mess of black?
[08:17] <andre357> I am new to linux and I need help installing a program.  There is a "install-sh" file but I cant seem to make it work.  Can someone please help?
[08:17] <bur[n] er> Existz, listen to dropety, that sounds more right on ;)
[08:17] <NickGarvey> andre357: sure, what program?
[08:17] <atdt_> ThanatosDrive, your favicons have gangrene
[08:17] <dissection> atdt_: Okay, that makes sense :)
[08:18] <Existz> hmm says not installed burner
[08:18] <ThanatosDrive> atdt_: Do you have an actual answer?
[08:18] <dropety> Existz: well, appart from my typos
[08:18] <atdt_> not really
[08:18] <ThanatosDrive> Does anyone know?
[08:18] <bur[n] er> Existz, yeah, just rmmod nvidia and modprobe it like dropety was saying
[08:18] <Existz> tried to apt-get it and didn't find any
[08:18] <NickGarvey> Existz: you just want a cd burner?
[08:19] <bur[n] er> Existz, i was wrong about the kernel headers
[08:19] <NickGarvey> !info gnomebaker
[08:19] <ubotu> gnomebaker: application for CD/DVD creation in the GNOME desktop. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.6.0-7ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 995 kB, installed size 2972 kB
[08:19] <NickGarvey> ^
[08:19] <bur[n] er> NickGarvey, where the hell did that come from?
[08:19] <Existz> I just want a cd burner?
[08:19] <Brent_> If I use fixmbr to remove Grub, can I then install grub on my external drive again by itself? Last time(well, actually, all FOUR times!) that didn't work
[08:19] <andre357> NickGarvey: the program is tile 0.7.8. I need it make one of my plugins for amsn to work
[08:19] <NickGarvey> bur[n] er: <Existz> hmm says not installed burner
[08:19] <Existz> aight let me try that
[08:19] <dissection> Okay, one more thing. When I add Linux DC++ to the menu using alacarte, it doesn't run. Why is that? My friend did the same thing on his computer and it works fine.
[08:19] <bur[n] er> Existz, logout of X, sudo rmmod nvidia, sudo modprobe nvidia, sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[08:19] <Existz> I was refering to you
[08:19] <bur[n] er> NickGarvey, he was talkingt o me ;)
[08:19] <asc> Brent_: I actually have no idea. Is formatting the internal drive an option?
[08:20] <Existz> yeah i'll try that
[08:20] <Brent_> Not really. Not enough space on it to put much
[08:20] <NickGarvey> bur[n] er: oooooh
[08:20] <Existz> gotta go back into .conf and change it to nvidia again
[08:20] <Existz> brb
[08:20] <Brent_> Otherwise, i would
[08:20] <NickGarvey> bur[n] er: ahah lets not talk about that
[08:20] <bur[n] er> Existz, also, #ubuntu-effects is a good channel regardign video cards and cool stuff
[08:20] <tofaffy> what was that link you gave me, Silver ?
[08:20] <atdt_> ok, init 6 time
[08:20] <Silver> tofaffy: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.20/+bug/84762
[08:20] <atdt_> who else restarts and shuts down with init
[08:21] <NickGarvey> andre357: hm, let me look into this a bit more
[08:21] <NickGarvey> andre357: and have you tried gaim/pidgin?
[08:21] <TheNo1Yeti> re.........start?  Like the server?   What is that?
[08:21] <Justi1> WHy is there no shutdown option available when I click the power button thing?
[08:21] <ThanatosDrive> Does anyone know what version of pidgin I should get?
[08:21] <FusE> eh, ever since I upgraded, my flash player died
[08:21] <Justi1> 2.0.2
[08:21] <bur[n] er> Justi1, because you're not an "administrator" and don't haev sudo power
[08:22] <andre357> NickGarvey: yeah and it doesn't have webcam support like amsn
[08:22] <dissection> Is there anyone here who uses Linux DC++?
[08:22] <Justi1> bur[n] er: but I am the only user on my computer
[08:22] <dhamma> anyone know how to 'paint' a quickmask back on using gimp?  i erased too much
[08:22] <bur[n] er> FusE, feisty?  sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[08:22] <asc> Brent_: Hm. It is *possible* to put the /boot directory on one partition and the rest of the OS on another (say, on the external drive). GRUB doesn't need much space (maybe, 64 MB to be safe), but it's probably not a process I could walk you through.
[08:22] <NickGarvey> andre357: there is a repository you might be able to use.. it is 3rd party but it is mentioned in the wiki article for compiz fusion
[08:22] <FusE> currently on edgy
[08:22] <ThanatosDrive> Justi1: Yeah but for what? Windows/Fedora Core/CentPS/RHEL/or get the source?
[08:22] <FusE> installing feisty right now
[08:22] <bur[n] er> Justi1, wow, you hosed it then :\  can you run sudo as your user?
[08:22] <NickGarvey> Brent_: I could.. but I would say.. installing grub to the external is so much easier..
[08:22] <Brent_> I don't know. I'm still new to this all.
[08:23] <Justi1> it worked until I installed xgl?
[08:23] <NickGarvey> "easier" and "easy" are very different though :)
[08:23] <bur[n] er> FusE, flash is easy with feisty
[08:23] <Brent_> I can TRY putting it on the external again, but I've not been able to get that to work yet.  How do I get a chat manager for Ubuntu...
[08:24] <NickGarvey> andre357: but, to install it, you should be able to cd into the directory, and run "sudo ./install-sh"
[08:24] <NickGarvey> !ohmy | atdt_
[08:24] <ubotu> atdt_: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[08:24] <bur[n] er> Existz, how bout the modprobe?  did it load the module/
[08:24] <bur[n] er> Existz, reboot? :)
[08:24] <Existz> I did reboot
[08:24] <Existz> I killed xserver
[08:24] <skollie> ThanatosDrive: chat manager?
[08:24] <bur[n] er> killing x server != reboot
[08:24] <dhamma> any gimp gurus, please pm me
[08:24] <Existz> when I typed modprobe nvidia it just went back to command prompt
[08:24] <dropety> Existz: reboot shouldn't be needed. Did you sudo the rmmod?
[08:24] <asc> Brent_: Hum. I wonder why it won't boot from the external drive.
[08:24] <atdt_> ubotu, sorry (just trying not to hurt the bot
[08:24] <Existz> yeah
[08:24] <atdt_> s fee;oimg
[08:25] <bur[n] er> Existz, lsmod |grep nvidia
[08:25] <ThanatosDrive> Sorry can you repeat that?
[08:25] <bur[n] er> it loaded?
[08:25] <ThanatosDrive> Whoever just talked to me about the chat manager.
[08:25] <skollie> ThanatosDrive: what do you mean 'chat manager'?
[08:25] <Existz> command not found
[08:25] <Brent_> I don't know. It's possible that it just wasn't installed right. But I'm not really sure. Whenever I tried to load Ubuntu that way, I got an error 22, and with Windows, I got the NTLDR is Missing error
[08:25] <ThanatosDrive> Oh; AIM/IRC/ICQ/MSN/etc.
[08:25] <Existz> lsmod
[08:25] <bur[n] er> ThanatosDrive, gaim comes with it
[08:25] <Brent_> Can I go back and install Grub without going through the entire install process again?
[08:25] <bur[n] er> ThanatosDrive, applications -> internet -> gaim
[08:25] <skollie> ThanatosDrive: use gaim or pidgin
[08:26] <NickGarvey> Brent_: yes, you need to reinstall a boot loader, and yes you can
[08:26] <ThanatosDrive> Ah. Thanks!
[08:26] <Brent_> How do I do that then? I've only done it through the Ubuntu install so far
[08:26] <bur[n] er> !grub | brent
[08:26] <ubotu> brent: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[08:26] <NickGarvey> Brent_: have the live ubuntu cd?
[08:26] <Brent_> By the way, I GREATLY appreciate the help. I'm a newbie, and most help sites just are all greek to me
[08:26] <Darkyn> i cant boot in normal mode i can only boot in recovery
[08:26] <Brent_> Yes, I do
[08:26] <Existz> the problem seems to be with the x module
[08:26] <NickGarvey> Brent_: boot it
[08:26] <Existz> any idea how to fix that?
[08:26] <Darkyn> this sucks
[08:27] <bur[n] er> Existz, is the nvidia kernel module loaded?
[08:27] <bur[n] er> lsmod  that's an "L" at the front
[08:27] <Brent_> I don't know where to install it though from there(please don't shoot me, I know it might sound stupid!) without installing the OS again
[08:27] <andre357> NickGarvey: I did the command you mentioned and it said "no input file specified"
[08:27] <NickGarvey> Brent_: yup, I know, I'm just saying one step at a time so your (any my) brain doesn't explode
[08:27] <bur[n] er> Brent_, you're cool man, ubuntu is a friendly community :)
[08:27] <Nanoer> Is there pidgin for Ubuntu?
[08:28] <Brent_> Oh, ok! Just making sure
[08:28] <bur[n] er> Nanoer, getdeb.net
[08:28] <NickGarvey> andre357: that wasn't a command, that was a url :)
[08:28] <Nanoer> k thanks
[08:28] <Darkyn> i have been messing with ubuntu for so long and still cant get it to boot in normal mode
[08:28] <skollie> Darkyn: other than recovery, do you have another boot option?
[08:28] <Brent_> So yes, I do have the disk, and I can boot from it. Next step!
[08:28] <PurpZeY> Nanoer: getdeb.net or pidgin.im
[08:28] <Darkyn> yes i do
[08:28] <skollie> Darkyn: try one of them
[08:28] <Existz> yes it is an L
[08:29] <bur[n] er> lsmod is there, i swear
[08:29] <NickGarvey> Brent_: what is your hard drive called? and what do you want to do exactly?
[08:29] <Darkyn> it boots and you see the little wait wheel then.. it loses the screen
[08:29] <andre357> NickGarvey: sudo ./install-sh?
[08:29] <skollie> Darkyn: on all of them?
[08:29] <NickGarvey> andre357: ah
[08:29] <Existz> How would I find out if the nvidia kernel mod is loaded? seems like it's loaded though
[08:29] <Existz> according the message the problem is the x module
[08:29] <Brent_> What do you mean "what is your hard drive called"? Are you talking Linux names? Or Grub name?
[08:29] <Flannel> Existz: lsmod
[08:29] <Darkyn> yep except the recovery
[08:29] <bur[n] er> Existz, you run "lsmod" which lists all your loaded kernel modules, look for "nvidia"
[08:29] <Brent_> And I want to boot to Windows when no drive is attached. And boot to Ubuntu when the drive IS attached
[08:30] <dropety> Existz: "find / -name lsmod | grep bin"
[08:30] <NickGarvey> Brent_: /dev/hda or /dev/sda or /dev/sdb or such
[08:30] <NickGarvey> andre357: you typed it just like that?
[08:30] <skollie> Darkyn: seems like a display problem then. Have you changed your X config file before the problem?
[08:30] <PurpZeY> Brent_: Why not just dual boot it if you have two hds?
[08:30] <Darkyn> it has something to do with the video driver... it took me forever just to get the right resolution
[08:30] <asc> Brent_: Error 22 is "no such partition". It probably means that  there's something wrong with the configuration file.
[08:30] <Brent_> The drive that it's on right now is /dev/sda and I want it to be on /dev/sdb
[08:30] <Existz> module nvidia size 6837140 used by 0
[08:30] <bur[n] er> Brent_, i'm with PurpZeY, it's easier to keep them both installed
[08:30] <Nanoer> getdeb doesn't have it and pidgin.im doesn't have an ubuntu one
[08:31] <skollie> Darkyn: do you have a backed up version of xorg.conf
[08:31] <Brent_> I don't want to uninstall them. But I don't always want to have to attach my external drive to run windows
[08:31] <bur[n] er> Nanoer, getdeb.net does have it.  http://www.getdeb.net/release.php?id=1045
[08:31] <asc> bur[n] er, PurpZeY: He has Ubuntu on a USB drive. It won't always be attached.
[08:31] <PurpZeY> Nanoer: pidgin.im just get the linux version...you'll have to compile it. it's rather easy.
[08:31] <On4_SamusFS> hi
[08:31] <andre357> NickGarvey: yup copy and paste
[08:31] <Nanoer> How do I compile it?
[08:31] <bur[n] er> asc, PurpZeY, Brent_; oh... didn't realize USB, i'll sit quiet :)
[08:31] <Brent_> So I can't get Grub to run without an error unless my external drive is attached. It won't let me into Windows. I am using the Super Grub Disk to get into Windows right now
[08:31] <Darkyn> i do but everytime i have tryed using it when the system failed alll together... it didnt work
[08:32] <Brent_> It's cool! There is a lot to read(and easily miss) here
[08:32] <NickGarvey> Brent_: ok, so lets install grub on the external hard drive
[08:32] <bur[n] er> PurpZeY, compiling is so hard for newbies!!!
[08:32] <PurpZeY> Nanoer: The instructions are in the compressed file. Three commands, you might need an extra package or two,,,
[08:32] <Darkyn> i would use the backup and it would still not boot altogether
[08:32] <Brent_> Ok, one second. I'll have to write anything down since I'm in Windows right now
[08:32] <Nanoer> okay so just get the source?
[08:32] <NickGarvey> Brent_: then, when you boot your computer, have the bios check for the external hard drive, and load the boot loader off it when you find it
[08:32] <NickGarvey> Brent_: that sound good?
[08:32] <Darkyn> it sucks
[08:32] <PurpZeY> bur[n] er: I did it...it's not so bad...Now I know how to do it...I'm not looking to force anyone, but I think it's ok.
[08:32] <Existz> burner
[08:32] <bur[n] er> Nanoer, dude, don't you see the debs on getdeb?  i directly linked you to the pidgin page on getdeb.  http://www.getdeb.net/release.php?id=1045
[08:33] <Existz> compiling's pretty easy, just takes work and a bit of time
[08:33] <Nanoer> Yea but when I searched nothing came up I still wanted to know about compiling
[08:33] <levander> In the latest security upgrade, I'm having to download like every single openoffice and related package, I'm even having to download python-uno for an update.  How could what is most likely one change affect so many packages?
[08:33] <Existz> I should say it's easy, it's moderate
[08:33] <Brent_> That's what I want to happen, yes. I just need to be able to install it onto the external drive, but I don't know how yet(I'm thinking that you know how though!)
[08:33] <Existz> haha
[08:33] <NickGarvey> levander: read the change logs?
[08:33] <dropety> Existz: try the sudo rmmod and the lsmod again to see if it is removed. Don't forget to shut down the gdm though. After that sudo modprobe nvidia
[08:33] <levander> NickGarvey: how do I do that?
[08:33] <NickGarvey> Existz: okie, lets try it
[08:33] <skollie> Darkyn: you need to edit your xorg.conf to get the display settings right it seems
[08:33] <PurpZeY> Nanoer: If you want to compile, it shouldn't be too hard, I can help a bit...if not just get it from the link that bur[n] er provided..your call really.
[08:33] <Flannel> levander: packags.ubuntu.com has the changelogs at the bottom
[08:34] <NickGarvey> levander: I believe the update manager has them when you select them for upgrade
[08:34] <Existz> aight, what's the shutdown command for gdm again?
[08:34] <NickGarvey> levander: his way is better though
[08:34] <NickGarvey> Existz: /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[08:34] <NickGarvey> (sudo0
[08:34] <Existz>  /etc/init.d/kdm stop?
[08:34] <NickGarvey> (sudo)*
[08:34] <Nanoer> I just want to know which I need to download to compile it. The source right?
[08:34] <Darkyn> do you know how many times i had to reinstall ubuntu because i changed it
[08:34] <Existz> cause i'm using       kde
[08:34] <PurpZeY> Nanoer: Yes,
[08:34] <NickGarvey> Brent_: ok so the command would be..
[08:34] <Darkyn> and then couldnt change it back
[08:34] <Nanoer> Okay thanks
[08:34] <bur[n] er> Nanoer, if you install from source, it's not easy to uninstall :\
[08:34] <Mr_Sonoma> how do i unlock the lock file for apt-get????
[08:34] <NickGarvey> Brent_: well.. first mount your ubuntu partition
[08:34] <Darkyn> i changed it back but it wouldnt work
[08:34] <bur[n] er> Mr_Sonoma, close synaptic :)
[08:34] <Flannel> Mr_Sonoma: close your package managers
[08:35] <Nanoer> I'm never going to uninstall it
[08:35] <skollie> Darkyn: always make a backup copy of the working version, just in case
[08:35] <towlieban> Mr_Sonoma is synaptic manager open ?
[08:35] <Mr_Sonoma> when i run apt-get i get this error, and no synaptic is not running
[08:35] <NickGarvey> Brent_: to lets say "/mnt/root"
[08:35] <Nanoer> So it doesn't matter if I can't
[08:35] <dropety> Existz: compiling your own is absolutely not needed anymore with the NVIDIA packages provided by nvidia - it is all done for you.
[08:35] <Darkyn> i always do but when i put the original back it still wont work
[08:35] <bur[n] er> to each their own
[08:35] <NickGarvey> Brent_: then the command would be "grub-install --root-directory=/mnt/root /dev/sda", assuming that /dev/sda is your external drive
[08:35] <ShockValue> shouldnt a regular user be able to access this directory?   drw-rw-rw-   7 nobody nogroup  176 2007-07-13 17:22 NAS
[08:35] <Darkyn> i am not being told something
[08:35] <Flannel> Mr_Sonoma: do you have another apt-get running? or update-manager or anything else?
[08:36] <skollie> Darkyn: why do you want to change it when its working?
[08:36] <Mr_Sonoma> nope
[08:36] <Mr_Sonoma> nothing is running
[08:36] <Darkyn> i cut and pasted this conf file and it still wont boot normally
[08:36] <Brent_> So I would just use /dev/sdb since that is my external?
[08:36] <NickGarvey> Brent_: yes
[08:36] <Existz> ok brb
[08:36] <NickGarvey> Brent_: then use your windows recovery cd to "fixmbr"
[08:36] <Darkyn> because it only boots in recovery
[08:36] <Brent_> I can do this straight from the terminal in the live distro?
[08:37] <NickGarvey> Brent_: yup
[08:37] <NickGarvey> Brent_: after you mount your ubuntu partition to /mnt/root
[08:37] <ThanatosDrive> Ahhhhh
[08:37] <Brent_> I'll probably use the Super Grub Disk to fix my mbr, or is that bad?
[08:37] <ThanatosDrive> This is MUCH better.
[08:37] <levander> NickGarvey: I thought only security fixes went out until a new distribution came out.  These changes don't look like security fixes at all, but bug fixes.
[08:37] <skollie> Darkyn: do not cut & paste. Use the full original xorg.conf
[08:37] <Brent_> Oh, yeah, I'm not too "smart" on mounting yet
[08:37] <NickGarvey> levander: not at all..
[08:37] <ThePioneer> How do I get permissions to a access a wireless ip http://<IP_ADDRESS>/cgi-bin
[08:38] <levander> NickGarvey: not at all what?
[08:38] <HHP2K> Hey guys, has anyone ever had the problem where your mouse wheel acts as a back-forward button? How do I fix this?
[08:38] <Darkyn> i did use the full original conf
[08:38] <ThanatosDrive> Is it possible for gaim to highlight my login name?
[08:38] <NickGarvey> levander: of course you would get bug upgrades too
[08:38] <Brent_> Is it easy to mount a drive?
[08:38] <NickGarvey> Brent_: very
[08:38] <TheNo1Yeti> HHP2K: Mine only does that when I hold it down and scroll.
[08:38] <skollie> Darkyn: the one that was there after your installation?
[08:38] <NickGarvey> Brent_: might be able to do it from the GUI even
[08:38] <Brent_> Ok, I just want to get all the info I need before logging out, since it's on this system
[08:39] <ThePioneer> Anyone?
[08:39] <Darkyn> it never has booted normally
[08:39] <levander> NickGarvey: That's not what I was told in the past.  I was told that after release, distributions are "static".  Meaning even the bugs stay the same.  This, so things don't keep changing on you on your system.
[08:39] <NickGarvey> Brent_: ah.. will you be able to get a network connection?
[08:39] <Darkyn> always had to use recovery
[08:39] <bur[n] er> ThePioneer, i don't understand the question at all
[08:39] <ThanatosDrive> Can anyone see what I'm typing?
[08:39] <HHP2K> TheNo1Yeti: I had to reconfigure x-server after an error, and now it's doing this by default. The mouse properties thing doesn't address the third button, so I don't know how to fix it.
[08:39] <levander> NickGarvey: Amaranth used to hang out in here, he told me that.
[08:39] <Brent_> I haven't gotten wireless to work yet, and that's what I have here at home.
[08:39] <NickGarvey> Thaddeus: mhmm
[08:39] <bur[n] er> ThanatosDrive, we see you
[08:39] <Mr_Sonoma> ok got it........finally got dpkg --configure -a to run
[08:39] <Darkyn> yes than
[08:39] <ThanatosDrive> Thanks.
[08:39] <NickGarvey> Brent_: oh that is a pain
[08:39] <Brent_> Unless there is a chat program on my wife's ibook
[08:39] <ThePioneer> Burner: I set this wireless ip on port 80
[08:39] <mhz`> ok, the world is safe
[08:39] <mhz`> :)
[08:39] <Brent_> Wait, I'll go to my desktop and install Chatzilla to firefox there, and talk while I'm doing it
[08:40] <Brent_> Or do you mean that getting wireless to work is a pain?
[08:40] <skollie> Darkyn: seems like a video driver detect problem..
[08:40] <hypatia> I'm trying to use Ubuntu on a system with the IDE Intel 82801GB SATA Storage Controller 27c0. Neither an installed Feisty system nor the Live CD can find the SATA drives. Any thoughts?
[08:40] <NickGarvey> Brent_: well that you don't have networking in general is
[08:40] <Darkyn> yes it does
[08:40] <bur[n] er> ThePioneer, your terminology is horribly wrong... you pointed port 80 to your computer with the wireless card, yes
[08:40] <Brent_> Cause I'm not looking forward to it. Regular LAN internet works fine
[08:40] <SyS> hello
[08:40] <ThePioneer> I try http://<IP_ADDRESS>:80/cgi-bin says 403 permission denied
[08:40] <Existz> Burner, nothing at all
[08:40] <SyS> i hav a cuestion
[08:40] <Existz> it didn't do a thing
[08:40] <PurpZeY> Brent_: It really depends on the wireless card...
[08:40] <skollie> Darkyn: what display card do you have?
[08:40] <bur[n] er> ThePioneer, is anything in your cgi-bin?  you can chmod it
[08:40] <PurpZeY> !ask | SyS
[08:40] <ubotu> SyS: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[08:40] <Darkyn> i have the 82845g
[08:41] <Brent_> It's just a stock HP wireless laptop thingy
[08:41] <Darkyn>  intel graphics controller
[08:41] <Existz> the nvidia driver components has the version 1.0-9755 but this x module has version 1.0-9631
[08:41] <xhaan> ThePioneer, if you're trying to access the cgi-bin directory itself you're not likely to get in
[08:41] <atdt_> that's odd, now all of the opengl screensavers just show blank screens after installing the nvidia driver
[08:41] <bur[n] er> ThePioneer, typically cgi-bin is for binary files though
[08:41] <Existz> same error
[08:41] <atdt_> can somebody help me fix that
[08:41] <NickGarvey> levander: "The task bar contains an update area where we'll notify you when there are updates available for your system, from simple security fixes to a complete version upgrade. The update facility enables you to keep your system up-to-date with just a few clicks of your mouse."
[08:41] <bur[n] er> Existz, google it :)
[08:41] <Darkyn> piece of shit video controller
[08:41] <HHP2K> Can anyone else help me fix this third button mouse issue?
[08:41] <Existz> I have
[08:41] <SyS> haha ok
[08:41] <ThePioneer> its on my wireless ip no my local
[08:41] <uub> Hi,...
[08:41] <Existz> no one has a solution
[08:41] <hypatia> The controller itself seems to be working because the SuSE Enterprise 10 install CD can find the drives no worries.
[08:41] <ThePioneer> not*
[08:41] <Mikkel^> Hello..
[08:41] <levander> NickGarvey: yeah, maybe that changed some time back and I never picked up on it.
[08:41] <Existz> even at the latin america pages
[08:42] <ThanatosDrive> How can I find out what the maximum RAM upgradeability of my mobo is?
[08:42] <Existz> cause no one in english has asked this
[08:42] <ThePioneer> my ip on laptop is <IP_ADDRESS> I need access to <IP_ADDRESS>
[08:42] <SyS> my irc client is xchat
[08:42] <levander> ThanatosDrive: mobo manual
[08:42] <Mikkel^> Why can i not remove chmod.. i cant not copy one file i have MAKE!!! it is LOCKED how can i open it again??
[08:42] <Mikkel^> and copy?
[08:42] <Darkyn> i have the 82845g intel graphics controller
[08:42] <ThanatosDrive> levander: My PC isn't really
[08:42] <NickGarvey> ThanatosDrive: google your modle I'd say
[08:42] <xhaan> ThePioneer, the permissions on the directory probably need to be changed, but it isnt a good idea to do so
[08:42] <SyS> i want away OFF
[08:42] <levander> ThanatosDrive: it's probably on the web
[08:42] <SyS> how?
[08:42] <NickGarvey> model*
[08:42] <bur[n] er> Existz, try removing all nvidia kernels, rebooting and only getting nvidia-glx-new... first "sudo apt-get remove --purge nvidia*"
[08:42] <skollie> Darkyn: not sure what to offer in terms of advice
[08:42] <SyS> /away not posible
[08:42] <ThePioneer> chmod <IP_ADDRESS> ??
[08:42] <NickGarvey> SyS: /back ?
[08:43] <Darkyn> ya i know thanks anyway
[08:43] <NickGarvey> ThePioneer: I uh.. what
[08:43] <dropety> Existz: go to /etc/default/linux-restricted-modules-common and add "nv" to the file or de-install the linux-restricted-modules(-common) package. (If you do that you can use the SH NVIDIA.... as suggested by NVIDIA too)
[08:43] <NickGarvey> ThePioneer: you can't.. chmod a computer..
[08:43] <SyS> thnkz
[08:43] <bur[n] er> ThePioneer, no no no... chmod is to change the permissions of a folder.  but you dont' want to chmod a cgi-bin dir
[08:43] <SyS> im windows user
[08:43] <Darkyn> thanks scollie
[08:43] <SyS> ;P
[08:43] <ThePioneer> I don't get how to change permissions for that cgi bin
[08:43] <xhaan> ThePioneer, is it your server thats on that ip?
[08:43] <Darkyn> k
[08:43] <Existz> I tried that dropety
[08:43] <bur[n] er> xhaan, obviously ;)
[08:43] <Existz> no success
[08:43] <skollie> Darkyn: np - sorry I couldn't be of more help
[08:43] <ThePioneer> Yes
[08:43] <Mikkel^> Hmmm
[08:43] <Mikkel^> I need HELP
[08:44] <Darkyn> you did enough... thanks
[08:44] <skollie> Mikkel^: with what?
[08:44] <xhaan> ThePioneer, then you need to go into that server and change the permissions on the directory itself
[08:44] <bur[n] er> !question | Mikkel^
[08:44] <ubotu> Mikkel^: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[08:44] <levander> Someone needs to make the "don't ask to ask, just ask" bigger and bolder when people enter this room
[08:44] <Mikkel^> i have new problem..i cant NOT copy ONE FILE... My make name is: eggdrop <- It is LOCKED and i cant not remove Chmod and copy How?
[08:44] <ThePioneer> I don't know how
[08:44] <towlieban> how do i enable universe at the command shell ?
[08:44] <NickGarvey> towlieban: sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list
[08:44] <Existz> dropety Burner
[08:44] <xhaan> ThePioneer, you may also need to change your server config to allow you to view it
[08:44] <NickGarvey> towlieban: remove the # infront of the lines that have "universe" in them
[08:44] <ThePioneer> That ip is set on my wireless routetr
[08:44] <Existz> going to paste my linux restricted mod
[08:44] <h1st0> Mikkel^: who owns the file?
[08:44] <levander> Mikkel^: paste the output of "ls -l" on the file to this channel.  It should only be one line.
[08:45] <towlieban> thanks
[08:45] <skollie> Mikkel^: have you tried to sudo it?
[08:45] <Mikkel^> invitefish.tcl <- It can i not Copy
[08:45] <Mikkel^> 2 sek skollie
[08:45] <Existz> http://pastebin.com/m2d1dbe43
[08:45] <xhaan> ThePioneer, is it a vhost? port forwarded? or what?
[08:45] <Mikkel^> How copy from Terminal?
[08:45] <Existz> take a look at it
[08:45] <iambob> hey is it possible to do  a network install
[08:45] <h1st0> Mikkel^: highlight then middle mouse in here.
[08:45] <skollie> Mikkel^: cp
[08:45] <Existz> yes it is
[08:45] <NickGarvey> Mikkel^: highlight.. rightclick.. copy...
[08:45] <Coweater`> sup
[08:45] <dropety> Existz: right. Sorry for asking but did you use nvidia's way to install the drivers?
[08:45] <peepsalot> anyone ever heard of a java sound editor?
[08:46] <Mikkel^> Hmm
[08:46] <NickGarvey> oh that kind of copy?
[08:46] <ThePioneer> virtual server on a belkin wireless router
[08:46] <Existz> yep
[08:46] <Existz> I did
[08:46] <Existz> and I did other ways also
[08:46] <Mikkel^> wait skollie
[08:46] <ThePioneer> port forward I think
[08:46] <bur[n] er> Existz, try this... "sudo dpkg-reconfigure linux-restricted-modules"
[08:46] <towlieban> NickGarvey ok i did that do i need to do anything else to apply those changes ?
[08:46] <NickGarvey> towlieban: sudo apt-get update
[08:46] <towlieban> ok thanks
[08:47] <Mikkel^> Hmm
[08:47] <Mikkel^> Skollie?
[08:47] <Mikkel^> root@mikkel-desktop:~# fisk.tcl mv eggdrop/scripts
[08:47] <Mikkel^> bash: fisk.tcl: command not found
[08:47] <skollie> Mikkel^: yes?
[08:47] <Existz> hmm says not installed
[08:47] <xhaan> ThePioneer, you need to get into the machine that the directory is actually on before forwarding, if thats in the router itself then you might not be able to do much
[08:47] <Existz> should I install it?
[08:47] <bur[n] er> thepioneer's router was there for all to see :\
[08:47] <ThanatosDrive> WOW. Never enabling desktop effects again. Any of you ever hear a graphics card whistling?
[08:47] <BrentR> Ok, I'm back
[08:47] <Existz> haha
[08:47] <h1st0> Mikkel^: ls -l invitefish.tcl
[08:47] <Existz> Thanatos
[08:47] <skollie> Mikkel^: what kind of copy do you want to do?
[08:47] <Mikkel^> Ok
[08:47] <Coweater`> out of interest
[08:47] <Mikkel^> See i have try
[08:47] <Existz> what happened with your card?
[08:47] <Mikkel^> fisk.tcl mv eggderop/scripts
[08:47] <Existz> what kind of card?
[08:48] <Existz> should I install it burner?
[08:48] <dissection> Hello. I have a small problem with ubuntu. I added Linux DC++ to the menu using alacarte but it doesn't run. Its working only if I go manually to the folder and run from there. However, it worked fine for my friend who added it to his menu. We both installed it exactly the same way. Why isn't it working for me? What could I be doing wrong?
[08:48] <ThanatosDrive> Existz: It's a Matrox Millenium. Pretty bad.
[08:48] <h1st0> Mikkel^: mv fisk.tcl eggderop/scripts
[08:48] <Mikkel^> root@mikkel-desktop:~# fisk.tcl mv eggdrop/scripts
[08:48] <Mikkel^> bash: fisk.tcl: command not found
[08:48] <Mikkel^> wait
[08:48] <Mikkel^> root@mikkel-desktop:~# ls -l fisk.tcl
[08:48] <Mikkel^> -rw-r--r-- 1 mikkel mikkel 2072 2007-07-14 08:39 fisk.tcl
[08:48] <Existz> ancient
[08:48] <dropety> Existz: I never reconfigure as it messes up the resolutions in xorg.conf
[08:48] <NickGarvey> dissection: I suggest just using right click and "edit menus"
[08:48] <h1st0> Mikkel^: if you want to move it you need to put the mv first like I typed
[08:48] <Existz> dropety did you look at it?
[08:48] <skollie> Mikkel^: mv or cp first
[08:48] <h1st0> Mikkel^: if you want to copy you need to put the cp first
[08:48] <dropety> Existz: Did the nvidia package install without warnings?
[08:48] <Existz> the linux-restricted-module file
[08:49] <Mikkel^> ok!
[08:49] <Mikkel^> thx
[08:49] <Mikkel^> Thx for the helping!
[08:49] <Existz> yeah it did
[08:49] <bur[n] er> Existz, if all else fails, you could install ubuntu-desktop and use the restricted drivers manager :)
[08:49] <tjmc> hey everyone
[08:49] <Existz> damn
[08:49] <Existz> haha
[08:49] <dissection> NickGarvey: I tried that and it says "Starting Main Menu..." in the taskbar (minimized) and it disappears. The menu editor doesn't show up.
[08:49] <BrentR> NickGarvey: Can I just use the installed Ubuntu to install Grub to the right place since I'm going to have the external drive attached anyways right now?
[08:49] <Existz> spent so much time on this too
[08:49] <ThanatosDrive> Existz: Yeah I'm getting an ATI Radeon 9300 soon, which isn't as ancient. But then, I heard Compiz/Beryl isn't suporting ATI cards very well. So no good.
[08:49] <dropety> Existz: no, i'm not using it. I removed it.
[08:49] <NickGarvey> BrentR: yup
[08:49] <Existz> what does the restricted drivers manager do?/
[08:50] <Mikkel^> can i play CS for Ubuntu?
[08:50] <Existz> do you know if beryl's doing geforce 8 series of cards?
[08:50] <bur[n] er> Existz, it's a gui to install hte nvidia driver instead of all this "sudo blahblah" crap
[08:50] <NickGarvey> Existz: manages restricted drivers
[08:50] <h1st0> Mikkel^: yes
[08:50] <tjmc> i seem to be having issues with Firefox, seems to keep crashing at random stages... anyone know of any error logs or anything i can check or have any ideas what the problem could be?
[08:50] <Existz> I ran it and got the white screen of death
[08:50] <BrentR> NickGarvey: Ok, cool. I'm rebooting right now on my laptop
[08:50] <h1st0> Mikkel^: with wine
[08:50] <bur[n] er> Existz, beryl definitely works on 8 series
[08:50] <Mikkel^> h1st0 : i can not play it.. i can not see TEKST
[08:50] <Existz> what do you think of Envy?
[08:50] <TheNo1Yeti> So really rookie question but I'm having a brain fart.  Your router is normally what ip?  <IP_ADDRESS>?
[08:50] <Existz> heard about Envy
[08:50] <bur[n] er> Existz, envy is crap!
[08:50] <bur[n] er> utter crap
[08:50] <ThanatosDrive> No1Yeti: <IP_ADDRESS>
[08:50] <h1st0> Mikkel^: you need to add the tahoma.ttf to your fonts directory
[08:50] <dissection> ThanatosDrive: <IP_ADDRESS>
[08:50] <Existz> so in other words don't bother with it
[08:50] <TheNo1Yeti> Thanatos: Thanks
[08:50] <Existz> aight
[08:51] <bur[n] er> Existz, #ubuntu-effects is usually full of people who know a lot about video cards and restricted drivers and all that jazz
[08:51] <Existz> aight let me try
[08:51] <Mikkel^> h1st0 How?
[08:51] <bur[n] er> Existz, good luck... and don't get discouraged... gutsy in october will make it uber-uber-uber-easy
[08:51] <h1st0> Mikkel^: put it in ~/.wine/drive_c/windows/fonts/tahoma.ttf
[08:51] <Mikkel^> mv?
[08:51] <tjmc> anyone?
[08:52] <h1st0> Mikkel^: Yeah but first you need to find that font somehwere. Like a windows drive or the web.
[08:52] <Mikkel^> where can i install tahoma.ttf
[08:52] <BrentR> NickGarvey: Well, I know that Grub works fine, since it's booting now. So that rules out a corrupted grub, I would assume
[08:52] <Flannel> !fonts | Mikkel^
[08:52] <ubotu> Mikkel^: Font installation basics here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FontInstallHowto - No fonts in Flash? Install "msttcorefonts" (from !Multiverse), "gsfonts", and "gsfonts-x11". No fonts in MPlayer? see !MPlayer
[08:52] <NickGarvey> BrentR: yeah, but the issue is where grub is - wait I thought you were using super boot disk or whatever
[08:52] <Mikkel^> ok
[08:52] <ThanatosDrive> Why do all my IMs open up a new window? I never set the preference.
[08:52] <h1st0> Mikkel^: in the directory I told you.
[08:53] <h1st0> Mikkel^: then your text will show up in steam
[08:53] <Mikkel^> Ok!
[08:53] <BrentR> I was using Super Grub Disk to boot to Windows since Grub itself messed up
[08:53] <Mikkel^> h1st0: can i play CS for openGL?
[08:53] <h1st0> tjmc: you can launch firefox from a terminal and see the output when it crashes
[08:53] <NickGarvey> BrentR: from a live cd?
[08:53] <BrentR> It's just basically an interface for the stuff that Grub can do, and it runs as a bootable disk
[08:53] <h1st0> Mikkel^: yeah you need a 3d video card.  If you have one you just need to install drivers
[08:53] <BrentR> It's not part of any distro
[08:53] <NickGarvey> BrentR: ah ha
[08:53] <h1st0> Mikkel^: what kind of video card do you have?
[08:53] <Mikkel^> h1st0: i can not install
[08:53] <Mikkel^> NVIDIA GT 6600
[08:53] <NickGarvey> BrentR: ok, so the issue is not if grub is corrupted, but _where_ it is installed
[08:53] <BrentR> Very nifty, and even lets you fix the MBR and TONS of other things
[08:53] <Mikkel^> i can not install Drivers :(
[08:53] <h1st0> Flannel: no he needs to install a font in wine
[08:53] <Mikkel^> i have error
[08:54] <h1st0> Mikkel^: what type of card do you have?
[08:54] <BrentR> Yes, correct. By the way, I"m inside Ubuntu now. I'm running off of the drive I want to put Grub on
[08:54] <Mikkel^> Nvidia GT 6600
[08:54] <h1st0> Mikkel^: sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx
[08:54] <Mikkel^> ok!
[08:54] <h1st0> Mikkel^: run that in a terminal
[08:54] <Mikkel^> i try
[08:54] <Existz> burner
[08:55] <Existz> meet me in the room
[08:55] <Mikkel^> i have installe it
[08:55] <Existz> i'm there
[08:55] <Mikkel^> it is installed
[08:55] <tjmc> h1st0: When i run from terminal it just lauches firefox, and as firefix is still running it comes back to a terminal prompt to enter more command
[08:55] <tjmc> s
[08:55] <TTT_Travis> how do I disable the fsk drive check at startup?
[08:55] <h1st0> Mikkel^: okay now restart X and you should be good to go.
[08:55] <Mikkel^> How restart X?
[08:55] <NickGarvey> Mikkel^: ctrl alt backspace
[08:55] <Mikkel^> shutdown ?
[08:55] <Existz> ctrl c
[08:55] <h1st0> ctrl+alt+backspace
[08:55] <Existz> after ctrl alt f2
[08:55] <tjmc> I was not sure if that would display any erros
[08:56] <Existz> oh my bad
[08:56] <Existz> haha
[08:56] <h1st0> tjmc: yeah I dunno maybe someone else would know
[08:56] <uub> THx
[08:56] <uub> I will now installed
[08:56] <uub> How can i install Steam?
[08:56] <tjmc> yeah thanks heaps though h1st0
[08:56] <BrentR> Ok, so do I have to worry about mounting any drive?
[08:57] <Mikkel^> h1st0: how can i install steaminstall.msi?
[08:57] <h1st0> Mikkel^: well first get the tahoma.ttf font.  Do you have a windows partition or somewhere you can get that?
[08:58] <Mikkel^> Wait
[08:58] <Rynoo> When trying to load network-admin, I'm getting an error message: The configuration could not be loaded  You are not allowed to access the system configuration.
[08:58] <tjmc> does anyone eslse have any ideas why Firefox would be crashing on me.... no visual errors produced, it just shuts down
[08:58] <Rynoo> Thats giving my proper root/administrator password, any ideas why its doing that?
[08:58] <NickGarvey> tjmc: run from the command line for more verbose reasons
[08:58] <Mikkel^> h1st0:  .. where it copy to?
[08:59] <h1st0> Mikkel^: do you have wine installed?
[08:59] <BrentR> NickGarvey: Do I have to mount anything since I'm running from the installed drive?
[08:59] <skollie> tjmc: sometimes a problem with java
[08:59] <Mikkel^> Yes
[08:59] <Mikkel^> where tahoma.ttf copy to?
[08:59] <NickGarvey> BrentR: hm nope
[08:59] <h1st0> Mikkel^: then ~/.wine/drive_c/windows/fonts
[08:59] <Mikkel^> Ok
[08:59] <Mikkel^> Thx :)
[08:59] <Mikkel^> i will try and try
[08:59] <h1st0> Mikkel^: is where you want it.
[08:59] <NickGarvey> BrentR: shortens the command too
[08:59] <xhaan> firefox always crashes for me... i just use something else
[08:59] <NickGarvey> BrentR: grub-install /dev/sdb
[08:59] <tjmc> NickGarvey: yeah h1st0 just suggested that, when i run firefox from terminal it just runs firefox and the terminal is ready for more commands, im not sure its going to show anything else?
[08:59] <BrentR> NickGarvey: Ok, then I think I'm all ready. What's my new command officer?
[08:59] <Mikkel^> i will now find tahoma.ttf
[08:59] <BrentR> Oops, there it is!
[08:59] <TheNo1Yeti> Okay so I have sshd running on my box and the port is open but when I try to ssh in from a remote connection it just hangs.  Anyone have any idea why?
[09:00] <NickGarvey> tjmc: ah.. it releases from the terminal?
[09:00] <mapez> my ntfs drive mounted fine and now after i rebooted it is not there.. halp?
[09:00] <NickGarvey> tjmc: close all instances of firefox first
[09:00] <NickGarvey> tjmc: (killall firefox-bin)
[09:00] <h1st0> Mikkel^: wine msiexec /i path/to/Steaminstall.msi       In a terminal will start the steam install
[09:01] <Mikkel^> ok
[09:01] <BrentR> NickGarvey: Ok, it gave me the following: rm: cannot remove '/boot/grub/stage1': Permission denied
[09:01] <Mikkel^> i have download tahoma.ttf
[09:01] <h1st0> Mikkel^: errr msiexec /i SteamInstall.msi   is the correct command
[09:01] <h1st0> Mikkel^: okay click on places > Home
[09:01] <Mikkel^> can i copy it to C:\ for mv?
[09:01] <Mikkel^> yes?
[09:01] <ThanatosDriv1> Everyone: I've just discovered the fact that I have TWO DESKTOPS.
[09:01] <iambob> can someone tell me how i can install ubuntu or windows off my hard drive?
[09:01] <TheNo1Yeti> lol
[09:01] <h1st0> Mikkel^: press Ctrl+h to show hidden folders
[09:01] <iambob> instead of needing cd
[09:01] <Mikkel^> yes
[09:01] <h1st0> then just navigate to .wine  then drive_c  then windows then fonts
[09:01] <NickGarvey> BrentR: oh sorry, toss in a sudo
[09:02] <tjmc> NickGarvey, just tried that and opened firefox to do a little test and it did the same thing
[09:02] <Mikkel^> i have found
[09:02] <Mikkel^> hda1 -> WINDOWS -> Fonts?
[09:02] <h1st0> Mikkel^: okay put the tahoma.ttf in there.
[09:02] <tjmc> hang a sec. sorry i did not run from terminal
[09:02] <NickGarvey> tjmc: you are sure you ran "killall firefox-bin" and then tried running firefox from the command line?
[09:02] <Mikkel^> lol i can not
[09:02] <BrentR> NickGarvey: Now, do I have to add anything for a partition since Ubuntu is on a specific partition?
[09:02] <tjmc> ok now its producing output in the terminal
[09:02] <skollie> tjmc: I had the same problem and it was caused by a bad link to my java plugin
[09:03] <h1st0> Mikkel^: why not?
[09:03] <iambob> if i do cat filename.iso > /dev/sdb
[09:03] <Mikkel^> dont no
[09:03] <iambob> how do i then edit grub to load it
[09:03] <NickGarvey> BrentR: nope
[09:03] <Mikkel^> can i copy it file from terminal
[09:03] <NickGarvey> BrentR: but
[09:03] <Dudeman> hey guys
[09:03] <NickGarvey> BrentR: this did not solve the problem yet
[09:03] <TheNo1Yeti> Okay so I have sshd running on my box and the port is open but when I try to ssh in from a remote connection it just hangs.  Anyone have any idea why?
[09:03] <NickGarvey> BrentR: this is step one of about 3
[09:03] <tjmc> skollie: how did you end up fixing it? and how can i tell if i have the same proB?
[09:03] <h1st0> iambob: what os are you in right now?
[09:03] <NickGarvey> BrentR: so don't reboot and expect it to work just yet :)
[09:03] <BrentR> Ok, so if it asks for password, it's going well
[09:03] <Dudeman> Can anyone help me get my Airlink101 wireless adapter running on my machine?
[09:03] <Rynoo> When trying to load network-admin, I'm getting an error message: The configuration could not be loaded  You are not allowed to access the system configuration. Any ideas?
[09:03] <iambob> h1st0: ubuntu
[09:03] <burnerx> hello~~
[09:04] <skollie> tjmc: I manually created the symbolic link to my java install
[09:04] <h1st0> Mikkel^: yeah cp /media/hda1/windows/fonts/tahmo.ttf ~/.wine/drive_c/windows/fonts
[09:04] <NickGarvey> BrentR: now, go into the bios and configure it to check the external hard drive BEFORE the internal hard drive in the boot order
[09:04] <Mikkel^> ok
[09:04] <NickGarvey> BrentR: know how to do that?
[09:04] <tjmc> ok
[09:04] <BrentR> NickGarvey: Yes, I know how to do that
[09:04] <h1st0> iambob: hrm... well you need someway of booting an installer
[09:04] <tjmc> ill keep trying to crahs firefox and see what it outputs
[09:04] <NickGarvey> BrentR: okie, do so, and then restore your windows boot loader using the recovery cd
[09:04] <BrentR> NickGarvey: Wait, it won't let me type in my password
[09:04] <burnerx> how can i get capture the key i pressed in a script ?
[09:04] <iambob> h1st0: yea i read some were to point it to it in grub
[09:04] <Mikkel^> ERROR
[09:04] <h1st0> Mikkel^: but it would be easier just to do it by dragging it.
[09:04] <Mikkel^> error
[09:04] <Mikkel^> error
[09:04] <BrentR> NickGarvey: no text is popping up
[09:05] <h1st0> iambob: I'm sure there is a way to do that though.
[09:05] <NickGarvey> !spam | Mikkel^
[09:05] <ubotu> Mikkel^: Unsure how you should behave on this channel? See !AskTheBot, !CoC, !Guidelines, !Offtopic, !Language, !Attitude, !Repeat, !Enter, !Paste, !NickSpam - and most importantly, use common sense :-)
[09:05] <iambob> h1st0: after i do cat filename.iso > /dev/hdd
[09:05] <Dudeman> Anyone know about Airlink101?
[09:05] <tjmc> Ok, it crashed and produced the following in terminal "Segmentation fault (core dumped)"
[09:05] <TheNo1Yeti> !ssh > TheNo1Yeti
[09:05] <NickGarvey> BrentR: what do you mean by that?
[09:05] <h1st0> Mikkel^: just drag it to the right folder instead of using terminal.
[09:05] <Mikkel^> See here
[09:05] <Mikkel^> root@mikkel-desktop:~/Desktop# cp /media/hda1/windows/fonts/tahmo.ttf ~/.wine/drive_c/windows/fonts
[09:05] <Mikkel^> cp: kan ikke udfre stat() '/media/hda1/windows/fonts/tahmo.ttf': No such file or directory
[09:05] <iambob> h1st0: so how would i?
[09:05] <Mikkel^> sorry it is Danish
[09:05] <h1st0> Mikkel^: tahoma.ttf
[09:05] <BrentR> NickGarvey: It has a cursor by the word "Password:" but when I try to type it, no text appears. The cursor stays in place and just keeps blinking
[09:05] <Mikkel^> lol
[09:05] <Mikkel^> wait!
[09:06] <h1st0> Mikkel^: and don't put the ~ in
[09:06] <ThanatosDriv1> BrentR: It sees it, it just won't show up. Type as if it were there, and press enter when you're done.
[09:06] <h1st0> Mikkel^: put /home/<yourusername>/.wine/blah/blah/blah
[09:06] <Mikkel^> ok
[09:06] <Dudeman> Can anyone help me get my Airlink 101 wireless adapter running on my machine????
[09:06] <iambob> does anyone know how i can point grub to boot
[09:06] <iambob> the iso
[09:06] <dude_> how do i install xine on ubuntu 5.10
[09:06] <h1st0> Mikkel^: so ti would be like cp /media/hda1/windows/fonts/tahoma.ttf /home/mikkel/.wine/drive_c/windows/fonts
[09:06] <skollie> tjmc: I manually installed and configured java using these instructions, which solved ny problem, but might not work for you - http://www.java.com/en/download/help/5000010500.xml#selfextracting
[09:07] <Mikkel^> Ok
[09:07] <h1st0> Mikkel^: or whatever your username is.
[09:07] <Mikkel^> Done
[09:07] <Mikkel^> Done!!
[09:07] <BrentR> NickGarvey: Oh, ok. I just did a bunch of backspaces to make sure I erased what I typed. Now, it's just giving me a message about if any lines are incorrect from the device.map file, then brings me back to the normal command line
[09:07] <Mikkel^> what is command to msiexec?
[09:07] <Dudeman> Can anyone help me get my Airlink 101 wireless adapter running on my machine????
[09:07] <h1st0> Mikkel^: alright now go in to the folder where the Steaminstallmsi is
[09:07] <dude_> hello
[09:07] <Mikkel^> Ok!
[09:07] <TheDukeNY> hi
[09:07] <h1st0> Mikkel^: in terminal and type msiexec /i Steaminstall.msi
[09:07] <iambob> So does anone know how i can after doing : cat filename.iso > /dev/sdb
[09:08] <Dudeman> Can anyone help me get my Airlink 101 wireless adapter running on my machine????
[09:08] <iambob> how i can point grub to the partion
[09:08] <Mikkel^> hmmm
[09:08] <Mikkel^> Ok
[09:08] <dude_> do u know how tyo install xine on 5.10
[09:08] <TheDukeNY> dude, have you tried googling it?
[09:08] <skollie> tjmc: problem had to do with the ns7-gcc29 bit
[09:08] <Mikkel^> i try
[09:08] <h1st0> !grub | iambob
[09:08] <ubotu> iambob: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[09:08] <BrentR> NickGarvey: So, do I reboot once it's gotten back to the regular command line prompt?
[09:08] <tjmc> thanks heaps skollie
[09:08] <h1st0> iambob: there is some documentation there
[09:08] <Frogzoo> iambob: ok so you've reimaged the entire disk - now, fdisk -l /dev/sdb
[09:08] <skollie> tjmc: thank me if it works <smile.
[09:09] <dude_> o yeah
[09:09] <Dudeman> i dont think we would spend the time connecting to this site if we had found info on GOOGLE
[09:09] <Dudeman> Can anyone help me get my Airlink 101 wireless adapter running on my machine????
[09:09] <dude_> but i am such a newbie to linux
[09:09] <Frogzoo> !docs | dude_
[09:09] <ubotu> dude_: documentation is to be found at http://help.ubuntu.com and http://wiki.ubuntu.com - General linux documentation: http://www.tldp.org - http://rute.2038bug.com
[09:09] <dude_> i jus want to play a stinkin dvd
[09:09] <NickGarvey> BrentR: yup
[09:09] <towlieban> what file do i edit to fchange the systems runlevel at startup ?
[09:09] <towlieban> isnt it /etc/inittab
[09:10] <dude_> thanx
[09:10] <Mikkel^> h1st0: ?
[09:10] <gdb> I don't think it is anymore.
[09:10] <h1st0> Mikkel^: yes?
[09:10] <Dudeman> ANYONE KNOW ABOUT WIRELESS ADAPTERS
[09:10] <towlieban> i do
[09:10] <Mikkel^> root@mikkel-desktop:~/Desktop# msiexec /i SteamInstall.msi
[09:10] <Mikkel^> Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
[09:10] <Mikkel^> err:wgl:X11DRV_WineGL_InitOpenglInfo  couldn't initialize OpenGL, expect problems
[09:10] <Mikkel^> why error :S
[09:10] <towlieban> you connect to the internet with them right ?
[09:10] <skollie> dudeman: what do you need help with?
[09:10] <Mikkel^> i can install steaminstall.msi now
[09:11] <Dudeman> i mean how to get them running on ubuntu
[09:11] <dude_> What is the easiest dvd player to install in 5.10?
[09:11] <h1st0> Mikkel^: you can or can't?
[09:11] <TheDukeNY> dude_: MPlayer Movie Player can play dvds
[09:11] <Mikkel^> i can )
[09:11] <skollie> dudeman: yes, but what exactly?
[09:11] <h1st0> Mikkel^: good
[09:11] <Mikkel^> Hmm
[09:11] <Mikkel^> i need help now
[09:11] <Dudeman> ok heres my situation
[09:11] <h1st0> Mikkel^: what do you need help with?
[09:11] <dude_> i tried getting mplayer, but my repos are screwed up
[09:11] <Mikkel^> What Destianation folder it install to?
[09:11] <Mikkel^> C:\ or Z:\
[09:11] <tjmc> skollie, seems its a bug in ubuntu (or possibly firefox... https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/firefox/+bug/75833
[09:12] <Dudeman> i am on ethernet atm but this isnt perminent. i have airlink101 adapter and its not working on my ubuntu machine
[09:12] <Mikkel^> What Destianation folder it install to? Is: c:\Program Files\Steam\
[09:12] <Dudeman> ive tried google. and what i found did not work
[09:12] <magnetron> !easysource | dude_
[09:12] <ubotu> dude_: source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[09:12] <Mikkel^> and i have steam for windows!
[09:12] <BrentR> NickGarvey: It's just "fixmbr" from the prompt, right?
[09:12] <towlieban> what file do i edit to change the systems runlevel at startup ?
[09:12] <dude_> thanx guys
[09:12] <NickGarvey> BrentR: from the windows prompt
[09:12] <TheDukeNY> dude_: have you tried marking for complete removal, then try and reinstalling?
[09:12] <BrentR> NickGarvey: Yes, in the recovery console
[09:12] <NickGarvey> BrentR: yup
[09:12] <h1st0> Mikkel^: yes
[09:13] <h1st0> Mikkel^: just C
[09:13] <Mikkel^> ok!
[09:13] <h1st0> Mikkel^: c:\program files\Steam
[09:13] <Mikkel^> Down
[09:13] <Mikkel^> :D
[09:13] <Mikkel^> DONE
[09:13] <Mikkel^> it is  done :)
[09:13] <Mikkel^> it updateing - 0%
[09:13] <h1st0> Mikkel^: it is actually going to be in /home/Mikkel/.wine/drive_c/Program Files/Steam
[09:13] <Mikkel^> 2 sek
[09:13] <h1st0> Mikkel^: but you should be doing this as your user instead of root
[09:14] <NickGarvey> Program\ Files*
[09:14] <h1st0> Mikkel^: That way it will be in your folders instead of roots
[09:14] <skollie> tjmc: have you tried upgrading/reinstalling firefox?
[09:14] <bullgard4> My computer contains 40 files with 'hwmon' in its name but a kernel module 'hwmon' is not loaded. Can one explain to me the concept of 'hwmon'?
[09:14] <Mikkel^> yes
[09:14] <Mikkel^> YES
[09:14] <Mikkel^> h1st0:  yes! it is
[09:15] <Mikkel^> now can it not start up :(
[09:15] <BrentR> NickGarvey: Ok, first success is that I can get into WIndows. I'm going to restart with the drive attached and see what happens
[09:15] <burnerx> how do i capture keystrokes ?
[09:15] <h1st0> Mikkel^: get out of a root login and do the install as your user
[09:15] <NickGarvey> BrentR: good luck
[09:16] <Dudeman> anyone familiar with Airlink101 AWLL3026???
[09:16] <Mikkel^> see here
[09:16] <Mikkel^> mikkel@mikkel-desktop:~$ cd .wine/drive_c/Program\ Files\Steam
[09:16] <Mikkel^> bash: cd: .wine/drive_c/Program FilesSteam: No such file or directory
[09:16] <Mikkel^> mikkel@mikkel-desktop:~$
[09:16] <NickGarvey> !anyone | Dudeman
[09:16] <ubotu> Dudeman: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[09:16] <BrentR> NickGarvey: Thanks. Is it possible that it didn't work before because I had the wrong partition as bootable?
[09:16] <NickGarvey> Mikkel^: the second \ should be a /
[09:16] <h1st0> Mikkel^: because you installed it as root
[09:16] <h1st0> NickGarvey: no its fine
[09:16] <Mikkel^> yes!
[09:16] <h1st0> Mikkel^: install it as Mikkel^
[09:16] <NickGarvey> BrentR: it didn't work before because grub was looking for the configuration files on the external hard drive which was not attached
[09:16] <Mikkel^> i have installed for root
[09:16] <tjmc> skollie, its currently at v<IP_ADDRESS>, so its already the latest, and by the looks of that bug report, a reinstall wont fix it
[09:16] <Mikkel^> for fx
[09:17] <Mikkel^> msi
[09:17] <Mikkel^> msiexec
[09:17] <Mikkel^> for Root
[09:17] <tjmc> im might just use opera or something
[09:17] <h1st0> Mikkel^: no
[09:17] <NickGarvey> BrentR: what we did, was put the windows boot loader on the windows drive, and grub on the external, grub won't even be loaded if the external isn't plugged in
[09:17] <h1st0> Mikkel^: don't install it as root.  INSTALL IT AS mikkel
[09:17] <Mikkel^> it is
[09:17] <h1st0> Mikkel^: thats why its not in yoru folder
[09:17] <h1st0> omfg
[09:17] <Dudeman> How do you get the Airlink101 AWLL3026 wireless adapter running?
[09:17] <Mikkel^> dont no :S
[09:17] <BrentR> NickGarvey: Ok, no luck. When I select my Ubuntu installation, it gives me an error 22. WHen I try Windows, it gives me NTLDR is missing, just like before
[09:18] <BrentR> NickGarvey: I promise, I did everything exact
[09:18] <h1st0> Where is the Steaminstall.msi
[09:18] <Mikkel^> Desktop
[09:18] <h1st0> Mikkel^: ^
[09:18] <NickGarvey> BrentR: let me think
[09:18] <TheNo1Yeti> Anyone have any idea why when I try to log into my server via ssh it just hangs.  SSH Port is open and ssh server is running.  It just sits there at connecting and eventually times out though
[09:18] <h1st0> Mikkel^: okay open a terminal
[09:18] <h1st0> Mikkel^: cd Desktop
[09:18] <skollie> tjmc: hmmm.
[09:18] <Mikkel^> i will install it now
[09:18] <h1st0> Mikkel^: then msiexec /i Steaminstall.msi
[09:18] <Mikkel^> mikkel@mikkel-desktop:~/Desktop$ msiexec /i SteamInstall.msi <-- It will installed now :)
[09:18] <magnetron> TheNo1Yeti: maybe you have a firewall that blocks it?
[09:18] <NickGarvey> BrentR: you are getting the grub menu?
[09:18] <h1st0> Mikkel^: yes then it will work
[09:19] <BrentR> Yep
[09:19] <Mikkel^> it installe to C:\
[09:19] <Mikkel^> again?
[09:19] <NickGarvey> BrentR: and this is only when the external is plugged in?
[09:19] <BrentR> NickGarvey: But when I select anything, I get an error
[09:19] <Dudeman> How do you get the Airlink101 AWLL3026 wireless adapter running?
[09:19] <BrentR> NickGarvey: yes
[09:19] <BrentR> NickGarvey: When it's not plugged in, Windows boots up perfectly. I just tried it
[09:19] <pc0> What is the name of the non-smp kernel ?
[09:20] <Dudeman> How do you get the Airlink101 AWLL3026 wireless adapter running?
[09:20] <NickGarvey> BrentR: sounds like an incorrect menu.lst I believe..
[09:20] <pc0> for the AMD processors
[09:20] <Mikkel^> h1st0:  it install for C:\ again?
[09:20] <skollie> Dudeman: can you see your adapter in ubuntu?
[09:20] <Dudeman> yes
[09:20] <h1st0> Mikkel^: The default location
[09:20] <NickGarvey> BrentR: it is odd.. that you are getting the NTLDR error though
[09:20] <h1st0> Mikkel^: just press next
[09:20] <magnetron> pc0: use the generic kernel
[09:20] <Mikkel^> Z:\?
[09:20] <Mikkel^> Ok
[09:20] <NickGarvey> BrentR: would you be able to paste bin it?
[09:20] <skollie> dudeman: do you have the necessary drivers?
[09:20] <NickGarvey> BrentR: the menu.lst?
[09:20] <h1st0> Mikkel^: just leave it as defaults just like in windows
[09:21] <Mikkel^> it is installe
[09:21] <NickGarvey> BrentR: and error 22 it was?
[09:21] <BrentR> NickGarvey: yes
[09:21] <burnerx> what is the home key code in bash ??
[09:21] <Dragon121_> yo
[09:21] <burnerx> ^[OH ???
[09:21] <Mikkel^> h1st0:  ERROR
[09:21] <Dudeman> skollie: i googled my problem and ended up getting zd1211-driver-r85.tgz
[09:21] <jurp5> hi
[09:21] <pc0> magnetron: isn't the generic .. the SMP one ?
[09:22] <BrentR> NickGarvey: I can't even get into Ubuntu now even WITH the super grub disk, although I can get into Windows through it(not needed though, since WIndows boots fine)
[09:22] <TheNo1Yeti> magnetron: No, I have opened up the firewall for port 22 for that box.
[09:22] <NickGarvey> BrentR: interesting, boot the live cd
[09:22] <Dudeman> skollie: i did what the howto at which i had to type "sudo make both" and that is where i run into errors
[09:22] <jurp5> my apt still cant find the good linux-restricted-modules-2.6.20-16-genric
[09:22] <jurp5> generic*
[09:22] <magnetron> pc0: the generic is the generic one. it is optimised for all types of architectures
[09:23] <Dudeman> skollie: "sudo make both" is suppose to make both my drivers i believe?
[09:23] <skollie> dudeman: what is the error?
[09:23] <pc0> magnetron: I want a kernel that doesn't have SMP support ... while my processor supports SMP
[09:23] <jurp5> it installs the 2.6.20-15 version
[09:23] <Mikkel^> Steam.exe (main exception): cannot open blob archive file: CMultiFieldBlob(mem-mapped file): Falied to open existing file, win32 Error 5 "Access denied"
[09:23] <h1st0> Mikkel^: what error?
[09:23] <h1st0> wth
[09:23] <Dudeman> skollie: many but ill do it again and show it to you
[09:23] <BrentR> NickGarvey: I"m putting in the live disk now, and I'll tell you when I'm booted up
[09:23] <h1st0> Mikkel^: thats wierd
[09:24] <h1st0> Mikkel^: Applications > Wine > Steam > Programs > Steam
[09:24] <h1st0> Mikkel^: open it see if you get an error?
[09:24] <skollie> dudeman: don't post the errors here - use pastebin
[09:24] <Mikkel^> 2 sek
[09:24] <magnetron> TheNo1Yeti: did you install the server package? it's called openssh-server, install it with Synaptic
[09:24] <Mikkel^> NOT programs
[09:24] <Dudeman> skollie: ok the same thing did not happen but here is what happened this time "make: *** No rule to make target `both'.  Stop."
[09:24] <Mikkel^> not make programs
[09:24] <Mikkel^> :(
[09:25] <jurp5> linux-generic is also 2.6.20-15, but my kernel isn't
[09:25] <skollie> dudeman: you need to check for the makefiles - 'both' obviously does not exist
[09:25] <h1st0> Mikkel^: wine /home/mikkel/Program\ Files/Steam/Steam.exe
[09:25] <jurp5> waht can i do?
[09:25] <h1st0> Mikkel^: try that in terminal
[09:25] <Mikkel^> It IS INSTALLED for C:\
[09:26] <Dudeman> skollie: both is not a file i know. but the howto said type the command "sudo make both"
[09:26] <TheNo1Yeti> magnetron: Yes, openssh-server is installed, sshd is running, port 22 is open on the firewall, nmap shows that port 22 is open on the box.  It does mention that it is being filtered though but probably because it is being forwarded to just that box not any of the other 5 on the network
[09:26] <Dudeman> skollie: i will put the link to the site im getting this info from
[09:26] <h1st0> Mikkel^: wine /home/mikkel/.wine/Program\ Files/Steam/Steam.exe
[09:26] <skollie> dudeman: I saw that - gimme a sec
[09:26] <h1st0> Mikkel^: wine /home/mikkel/.wine/drive_c/Program\ Files/Steam/Steam.exe
[09:26] <jurp5> ?
[09:27] <Mikkel^> Error
[09:27] <Dudeman> skollie: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Device/Airlink101_AWLL3026 This is where im coming from
[09:27] <Mikkel^> Steam.exe (main exception): cannot open blob archive file: CMultiFieldBlob(mem-mapped file): Falied to open existing file, win32 Error 5 "Access denied" <- It error AGAIN
[09:27] <dskjdfdf> ..........................
[09:27] <dskjdfdf> ..........................
[09:27] <dskjdfdf> ..........................
[09:27] <dskjdfdf> ..........................
[09:27] <dskjdfdf> ..........................
[09:27] <pc0> What is the name of the non-smp ?
[09:27] <NickGarvey> !spam | dskjdfdf
[09:27] <ubotu> dskjdfdf: Unsure how you should behave on this channel? See !AskTheBot, !CoC, !Guidelines, !Offtopic, !Language, !Attitude, !Repeat, !Enter, !Paste, !NickSpam - and most importantly, use common sense :-)
[09:27] <NickGarvey> pc0: the kernel?
[09:27] <pc0> NickGarvey: yes
[09:28] <magnetron> TheNo1Yeti: nmap listing the port as "filtered" indicates that the firewall is blocking the port, or redirecting it to a faulty target. you should check your firewall configuration
[09:28] <NickGarvey> !info linux-image-386
[09:28] <ubotu> linux-image-386: Linux kernel image on 386.. In component main, is optional. Version <IP_ADDRESS>.28.1 (feisty), package size 23 kB, installed size 52 kB
[09:28] <BrentR> NickGarvey: Ok, I'm back in live disk
[09:28] <NickGarvey> pc0: actually, 686 might be bettetr
[09:28] <NickGarvey> better*
[09:28] <NickGarvey> BrentR: ok, go to a terminal, "sudo -i"
[09:28] <NickGarvey> "grub"
[09:28] <Mikkel^> h1st0: i will try and install steam4linux
[09:29] <pc0> NickGarvey: amd ?
[09:29] <NickGarvey> pc0: amd 64?
[09:29] <pc0> NickGarvey: yes
[09:29] <NickGarvey> pc0: ah
[09:29] <h1st0> Mikkel^: thats wierd error haven't seen that one before
[09:29] <TheNo1Yeti> magnetron: I thought I forwarded it right but I will check again.  I didn't want to do a carte blanche opening of port 22.  But I will check again
[09:29] <NickGarvey> pc0: mm..
[09:29] <BrentR> NickGarvey: ok, I got root@ubuntu:~#
[09:29] <Mikkel^> h1st0:  its here!
[09:29] <Mikkel^> Steam.exe (main exception): cannot open blob archive file: CMultiFieldBlob(mem-mapped file): Falied to open existing file, win32 Error 5 "Access denied"
[09:29] <Flannel> pc0: Are you on dapper?
[09:29] <NickGarvey> pc0: not sure.. if you need..
[09:29] <NickGarvey> take it away flannel
[09:30] <skollie> dudeman: did it actually download the file? I just tried and it did not work
[09:30] <pc0> Flannel: feist
[09:30] <pc0> Flannel: feisty*
[09:30] <h1st0> Mikkel^: yeah I saw but I don't know what it means.  I don't have that problem.  It just works for me.
[09:30] <FusE> Yay, ~15 to Feisty
[09:30] <Mikkel^> i will install steam4linux
[09:30] <Dudeman> skollie: no i too noticed the link was bad, or misdirected. i ended up finding the actual file on a different site. would you like to see that one?
[09:30] <Flannel> pc0: You want the generic kernel.  And you'll just want to disable SMP.  Edgy (and Feisty) don't have separate SMP/UP kernels
[09:30] <NickGarvey> BrentR: type "grub"
[09:30] <jurp5> i want a working nvidia driver
[09:30] <pc0> Flannel: how can I disable SMP ?
[09:31] <skollie> dudeman: post the link yes - will try and replicate
[09:31] <BrentR> NickGarvey:Ok, I got the whole "minimal bash........." message with a grub prompt
[09:31] <Dudeman> skollie: uno momento
[09:31] <NickGarvey> BrentR: ok.. let me think.. sdb..
[09:32] <FusE> Umm, can someone help me identify which kernel versions belong to which ubuntu version so I can simplify my grub menu?
[09:32] <FusE> Which one is Ubuntu, kernel 2.6.15-28-386
[09:32] <Dudeman> skollie: http://www.mirrorservice.org/sites/www.ibiblio.org/gentoo/distfiles/%5Bpage=165%5D is the site and zd1211-driver-r85.tgz is what you will dl and work with
[09:32] <NickGarvey> BrentR: I'm sorry, get out of the grub shell (quit), and tell me the output of "grep sdb /boot/grub/device.map"
[09:32] <skollie> dudeman: ok. gimme a min
[09:32] <pc0> Flannel: any idea ?
[09:32] <Dudeman> skollie: k
[09:33] <Flannel> pc0: Well, I'm not sure entirely, but I believe all that config is done via your config- files in /boot
[09:33] <adrian_> #ubuntu-uk
[09:33] <Flannel> pc0: Oh.  ACtually, better way.  Or, well, assuming it works.
[09:34] <BrentR> NickGarvey: I typed that in and it gave me "No such file or directory". Should I just navigate to it?
[09:34] <bullgard4> /usr/src/linux-source-source-2.6.20/Documentation/kobject.txt writes: "The kobject infrastructure performs basic object management that larger data  structures and subsystems can leverage, rather than reimplement similar functionality." For what stands 'k' in 'kobject'?
[09:34] <Dudeman> skollie: the first time i tried this i got a bit more text with a lot more info but when i try it now it does the same error i just showed you
[09:34] <NickGarvey> BrentR: /boot/grub/device.map doesn't exist?
[09:34] <ThanatosDriv1> Man it's so odd having to look up to see the clock
[09:34] <NickGarvey> BrentR: could be because you are on the live cd
[09:34] <NickGarvey> BrentR: is your ubuntu partition mounted?
[09:35] <BrentR> NickGarvey: The file exists, I can see it in the file browser, but it gave me that error when typing in the terminal
[09:35] <Flannel> pc0: pass a 'nosmp' kernel parameter.  So, kopt= should include nosmp in your menu.lst, you can temporarily edit your kernel options in gRUB on the fly to make sure it works firs tthough
[09:35] <pc0> Flannel: I'm getting a soft lockup detected on CPU#0 with my wifi card .. that's why I need to disable the SMP kernel to see if it will work or not
[09:35] <FusE> lol Thanatos same
[09:35] <skollie> dudeman: instead of 'make' both, just try 'make'
[09:35] <BrentR> NickGarvey: But I can see the file and browse to it
[09:35] <NickGarvey> BrentR: typo perhaps?
[09:35] <Dudeman> skollie: alright one sec
[09:35] <NickGarvey> maybe my command was bad
[09:35] <NickGarvey> nope
[09:35] <FusE> Which version is Ubuntu, kernel 2.6.15-28-386
[09:35] <pc0> Flannel: kopt ?
[09:35] <BrentR> NickGarvey: It's possible. I typed in "grep sdb /boot/grub/device.map"
[09:35] <Flannel> pc0: Alright, so to temporarily do it, stop the boot at the grub menu (you might need to hit escpe to get there, right after the POST screen), then highlight your kernel, hit 'e' and then go to the end of the kernel line, and add 'nosmp' then boot with that
[09:36] <pc0> Flannel: okay .. thanks
[09:36] <BrentR> NickGarvey: I'm on root@ubuntu
[09:36] <NickGarvey> BrentR: do you see it with ls /boot/grub ?
[09:36] <jurp5> the whole linux-restricted-modules-2.6.20-16 package is GONE, linux-generic is old, 2.6.20-15, but it wont update because apt dont find a new one
[09:36] <BrentR> NickGarvey: Do I need a "sudo" in there?
[09:36] <NickGarvey> nope, you are root :)
[09:36] <bullgard4> My computer contains 40 files with 'hwmon' in its name but a kernel module 'hwmon' is not loaded. Can one explain to me the concept of 'hwmon'?
[09:36] <jurp5> what's the problem
[09:36] <BrentR> NickGarvey: Ok, then typing in ls /boot/grub gave me the same error
[09:37] <Dudeman> skollie: thank you. no errors. not sure if it will work yet but i am going to test it. i will be right back
[09:37] <dibblego> where can I find the mount point of a USB hard drive on ubuntu 7.04 server?
[09:37] <BrentR> NickGarvey: But like I said, I can access the drive through the desktop AND I can see the file
[09:37] <NickGarvey> BrentR: ah, it is because you are on the live cd then
[09:37] <skollie> dudeman: now you need to do 'sudo make install'
[09:37] <NickGarvey> BrentR: well, open the file though the desktop if you can
[09:37] <Dudeman> k
[09:37] <BrentR> NickGarvey: Ok, it's open
[09:38] <Dudeman> skollie: theres the errors lol
[09:38] <NickGarvey> BrentR: see the sdb line?
[09:38] <bullgard4> dibblego: Did you check fstab?
[09:38] <dibblego> bullgard4, what do I check for?
[09:38] <Dudeman> skollie: these are the ones i was originally talking about. its a bit long to post here though
[09:38] <BrentR> NickGarvey: I've opened this file before, I remember. The sdb line says "(hd1)     /dev/sdb
[09:38] <bullgard4> dibblego: For the mount moint.
[09:38] <skollie> !pastebin | Dudeman
[09:38] <ubotu> Dudeman: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[09:38] <dibblego> bullgard4, I only just plugged it in; why would that modify /etc/fstab?
[09:38] <BrentR> NickGarvey: without that quote mark, that's a typo
[09:38] <FusE> Wait, which kernel versions should I keep on my grub menu?
[09:38] <NickGarvey> BrentR: okie, now go back to the terminal, and type "grub"
[09:39] <Dudeman> skollie: k one sec
[09:39] <BrentR> NickGarvey:ok
[09:39] <bullgard4> dibblego: I did not say that your process changed the fstab.
[09:39] <Flannel> FusE: You don't need to edit your grub menu, just remove the old kernels through package management
[09:39] <FusE> yeh
[09:39] <FusE> Which ones should I remove
[09:39] <Dragon121_> u
[09:39] <Dragon121_> lol
[09:39] <NickGarvey> BrentR: it is installed on the first partition of the external yes?
[09:39] <FusE> better yet, which ones should I keep
[09:39] <skollie> dudeman: which ubuntu are you running?
[09:39] <dibblego> bullgard4, I don't see anything in /etc/fstab
[09:39] <Flannel> FusE: Old ones (lower numbers).  Usually a good idea to keep the current one, and one old (known good) one
[09:39] <FusE> hmmm
[09:40] <FusE> Im tempted to keep the kernels, just edit them nue
[09:40] <FusE> menu*
[09:40] <bullgard4> dibblego: Do you mean that your fstab is empty?
[09:40] <Flannel> FusE: You'll get them back each time you upgrade to a new kernel
[09:40] <recoiled> howdy
[09:40] <FusE> eh
[09:40] <FusE> damn
[09:40] <dibblego> bullgard4, no, I'll paste it if you like
[09:40] <hypertyper> I appear to have lost my panels on my new 7.04 desktop install, when I switched to my second workspace. I think they're still on the first workspace, but I'm not sure how to get there from here. Anyone feel helpful?
[09:40] <recoiled> im having some trouble with virtual servers in apache2
[09:40] <FusE> Im not sure which one I boot to LOL
[09:40] <FusE> The top one
[09:40] <FusE> but not sure which one that is
[09:40] <BrentR> NickGarvey: I'm not sure if it's considered the first or not. I exited out of the grub prompt, and did a quick fdisk -l and it shows my Linux partition as /dev/sdb2
[09:40] <Dudeman> skollie: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29885/
[09:40] <bullgard4> dibblego: Give it a try. may be I can help you.
[09:40] <FusE> Ubuntu, kernel 2.6.15-28-386  and Ubuntu, kernel 2.6.15-27-386 I gues
[09:41] <dibblego> bullgard4, http://rafb.net/p/uKI8sO64.html
[09:41] <NickGarvey> BrentR: ok, second then
[09:41] <recoiled> using joomla... images don't display... and the root domain still goes to /var/www
[09:41] <FusE> flannel, does that look right?
[09:41] <Flannel> FusE: theyre in order in the menu.lst, but it'll be the newest one.  Or, you can type `uname -a` and get what kernel you're currently using
[09:41] <NickGarvey> BrentR: go to grub again
[09:41] <BrentR> NickGarvey: haha, I'm proud that I knew to do that!
[09:41] <NickGarvey> BrentR: root (hd1,1)
[09:41] <FusE> Flannel, keep Ubuntu, kernel 2.6.15-28-386  and Ubuntu, kernel 2.6.15-27-386 I gues?
[09:41] <NickGarvey> BrentR: setup (hd1)
[09:41] <BrentR> NickGarvey: Type that in?
[09:41] <NickGarvey> BrentR: quit
[09:41] <NickGarvey> yes
[09:41] <FusE> yup its right
[09:42] <Flannel> FusE: Right.  Those would be your most recent one.s
[09:42] <NickGarvey> BrentR: is there anyway to pastebin menu.lst?
[09:42] <BrentR> NickGarvey:Ok, I did all that
[09:42] <BrentR> NickGarvey: I don't know how, and I'm on a different computer typing this
[09:42] <NickGarvey> BrentR: usb drive maybe?
[09:42] <hypertyper> Ok, how about if i try asking like this: is there a keyboard shortcut i can use to get back to my first workspace?
[09:43] <BrentR> NickGarvey: I don't even know what pastebin is, so I'm not sure. I do know that when I did all that, everything said "yes" or succeeded"
[09:43] <NickGarvey> hypertyper: workspace as in.. console?
[09:43] <Dudeman> skollie: did the link work?
[09:43] <skollie> dudeman: having a look. one sec
[09:43] <bullgard4> dibblego: I understand that the mount point of /dev/hdc1 is /mnt/hdc1.
[09:43] <NickGarvey> !pastebin | BrentR
[09:43] <ubotu> BrentR: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[09:43] <Dudeman> skollie: alright
[09:43] <BrentR> NickGarvey: But I don't know pastebin
[09:43] <dibblego> bullgard4, yes, I put that in there myself
[09:43] <FusE> Flannel, just to be safe, remove all other entries in Package Manager claiming linux-image-
[09:43] <BrentR> NickGarvey: Ok
[09:43] <hypertyper> NickGarvey: no, as in multiple desktops.
[09:43] <Flannel> FusE: right, linux-image-[version] -386
[09:43] <NickGarvey> hypertyper: ah, ctrl alt left/right
[09:44] <FusE> crap Ill wait till im done installing feisty
[09:44] <Flannel> FusE: not all linux-image (one of those is linux-image-386, don't remove that)
[09:44] <bullgard4> So /mnt/hdc1 is the mount point you asked for.
[09:44] <Flannel> FusE: er... you're installing feisty?
[09:44] <FusE> yup
[09:44] <Flannel> FusE: Upgrading to feisty, I mean?
[09:44] <FusE> sorry
[09:44] <FusE> lol
[09:44] <Dudeman> skollie: i will brb man. gonna check something out in another room
[09:44] <FusE> = 12 am
[09:44] <BrentR> NickGarvey: Ok, give me a couple minutes. I'll go get my USB drive. Just mount it and copy the file there, then upload it to pastebin?
[09:44] <Flannel> FusE: You know you shouldn' upgrade from Dapper to Feisty
[09:44] <NickGarvey> BrentR: yup
[09:44] <dibblego> BrentR, how do you mount it?
[09:44] <FusE> Im on Edgy
[09:44] <FusE> Why do you think im on Dapper
[09:44] <hypertyper> NickGarvey: aha! thanks! now, do you have any idea why my panel is only on the first workspace, and not the second?
[09:44] <skollie> dudeman: looks like a problem with kernel headers/dirs
[09:45] <Flannel> FusE: That's a dapper kernel.   The USB drive? I'm assuming that just inserting it will mount, at least in Ubuntu. BRB
[09:45] <FusE> sorry
[09:45] <FusE> Flannel, I booted to 2.6.17 and it didnt boot right
[09:45] <dibblego> BrentR, it does with the desktop version; I'm just wondering how you do it with the server version
[09:46] <NickGarvey> dibblego: how would you mount a usb drive you are asking?
[09:46] <hypertyper> NickGarvey: yes, sir, the panel at the top and bottom of the screen. it appears when i go back to the first workspace, disappears if i move to the second.
[09:46] <Flannel> FusE: you've upgraded to edgy though?  even though you're still using Dapper kernels?
[09:46] <FusE> yes
[09:46] <dibblego> NickGarvey, correct, I have plugged it in (to a server), now I want to mount it
[09:46] <FusE> Im currently on dapper kernel
[09:46] <NickGarvey> hypertyper: this just started happening?
[09:46] <NickGarvey> dibblego: well first, find out where it is using "dmesg", (what does linux think it is? /dev/sdb1?)
[09:46] <bullgard4> dibblego: So /mnt/hdc1 is the mount point you asked for.
[09:46] <hypertyper> NickGarveY: actually, now that i think about it... that'll prolly fix my Wow problem - the panel was appearing over the game screen, so if i move it to the second workspace....
[09:46] <Flannel> FusE: Well, we'll see how it works ;)  If you've upgraded to Edgy, you should have the proper transitional packages.  So I think you'll probably be alright.
[09:46] <FusE> sec
[09:47] <FusE> I got a popup
[09:47] <hypertyper> NickGarvey: yes, just started happening, not sure why
[09:47] <FusE> Configuring mdadm
[09:47] <FusE> MD arrays needde for root filesystem:
[09:47] <dibblego> bullgard4, no, that's a IDE hard disk I use; I plugged in a USB hard disk
[09:47] <dibblego> NickGarvey, isn't that for SATA disks? I am using USB
[09:47] <NickGarvey> dibblego: sdb was an example
[09:47] <FusE> Flannel, can you help me with this part? what do I put? all?
[09:47] <NickGarvey> dibblego: and most usb drives are sdsomething
[09:48] <dibblego> ok thanks
[09:48] <Flannel> FusE: I have no idea what it's asking you
[09:48] <FusE> MD arrays needde for root filesystem:
[09:48] <Nergar> hello, how do i configure my wlan0 with ifconfig?
[09:48] <dibblego> NickGarvey, bullgard4, thanks, it was /dev/sda1
[09:48] <Dudeman> ok back
[09:48] <diamondcutter> Hi, my window border buttons (maximize, minimize, etc..) disappear and the window border becomes all white whenever I maximize any window. Using Feisty Fawn with Desktop Effects enabled and looking to get my border buttons back. (Have tried multiple themes as well)
[09:48] <BrentR> NickGarvey: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29886/
[09:48] <BrentR> NickGarvey: I think that is how you do this. It's my first time!
[09:49] <NickGarvey> BrentR: hehe perfect
[09:49] <Dudeman> skollie: so... what should i do?
[09:49] <BrentR> NickGarvey: Excellent. I'll wait for your diagnosis doctor!