[11:52] <Lokii-> tbh TheNewGuy if your hesitant don't do it but if you really want to make the change it won't be much of a decision
[11:52] <usr13_> TheNewGuy: What size is the HD?
[11:53] <TheNewGuy> about 50 gigs
[11:53] <TheNewGuy> I have 10 free
[11:53] <nemilar> I don't understand how people can not have backups, when storage space costs twenty cents a gigabyte
[11:53] <usr13_> TheNewGuy: picasa web
[11:53] <ompaul> TheNewGuy, you choose you are offtopic so go back up your data and then come back, only people who don't care don't backup
[11:53] <usr13_> TheNewGuy: But  you can just get webspace from someplace and ftp 'em all over to it.
[11:54] <nemilar> TheNewGuy: I'll take 'em for ya if you want
[11:54] <nemilar> :D
[11:54] <Lokii-> i think i still got backups of the same data from 5+ years ago LoL anyways nite all
[11:54] <nemilar> peace Lokii-
[11:54] <TheNewGuy> NO! unless I find a way to encrypt them ...  Can I ask about Compiz + fusion? The card in my notebook is  Intel Graphics Media Accelerator 950.
[11:56] <suweid> Maybe not a strictly ubuntuesque question, but suppose I installed Apache and it worked fine, untill I sudormrf:ed some configuation files away. I don't need nothing fancy schmansy configuration, i just want the default files to magically reappear. I've tried reinstalling apache, but that doesn't help. What to do?
[11:56] <usr13_> imaginal: keep your shirt on, it's a troll
[11:56] <ompaul> nemilar, user_ so ehh lets help people who want help
[11:56] <nemilar> AlexQ: yeah go ahead and ask...compiz should work out well with that card
[11:56] <ompaul> usr13_, even
[11:56] <bmjackal> hi, I'l state it clear at the beginning, I'm a noob who needs a little help with xawtv, is there anyone wiling to help, please?
[11:56] <nemilar> !ask
[11:56] <ubotu> Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[11:56] <Lokii-> AlexQ #compiz-fusion
[11:56] <BlackRece> hiya ppl
[11:57] <jimcooncat> suweid: I think "sudo aptitude purge apache2" will wipe them out
[11:57] <imaginal> usr13_: shirt intact. Thanks for the grounding...
[11:57] <nemilar> all the help-ee's are scared to ask now :(
[11:57] <AlexQ> Lokii-: I will ask then :D.
[11:57] <AlexQ> Bye.
[11:57] <nemilar> lol, I always chuckle when I see a dial-up user
[11:58] <Dr_willis> nemilar,  ATH0 :)
[11:58] <Parsec300> bod_, so how do you find out what is the correct Sync ranges of your display (Acer laptop
[11:58] <bmjackal> OK, so... I've successfully connected my Pinnacle USB TV Tuner, it shows its signal in Xawtv, the sound is fine, but when I try to record AVI file, it reports some kind of error (no way to get ************ (the type and resolution of the video) )
[11:58] <BlackRece> how do i set up lappy running 7.04 updated to 7.10 as a firewall/gateway usng iptables
[11:58] <imaginal> Parsec300: google
[11:58] <Lokii-> broadband is so cheap these days voip local and long distance w/ a second line and 5mbit internet can all be gotten for as little as 30/mo
[11:58] <nemilar> Dr_willis: it's been years since I've even heard that
[11:58] <suweid> jimcooncat, tried, same problem. :(
[11:59] <suweid> on (re) installation it says apache2: Could not open configuration file /etc/apache2/apache2.conf: No such file or directory
[11:59] <nemilar> BlackRece: you might want to use a distro more tailored to acting as a firewall/router
[11:59] <hatter> whereabouts do i change my theme in gnome ?
[11:59] <Dr_willis> nemilar,  there used tobe an irc exploit/thing that could cause modem users to hang up By themjust SEEING that text. :) heh - some buggy modems back then
[11:59] <Parsec300> imaginal, I was looking up the nick of someone I chatted with earlier, but accidentally entered the text
[11:59] <nemilar> Dr_willis: I remember, you send a +++ATH0 packet
[12:00] <AAAle> Hello :)
[12:00] <BlackRece> nemilar: is there a uuntu that does it WITH a gui?
[12:00] <innertruth> Lokii-: i pay $56 for 512 kbit
[12:00] <josiahw> could someone help me with a very easy gimp question?
[12:00] <Dr_willis> BlackRece,  there are firewall guis for ubuntu.
[12:00] <Dr_willis> !firewall | BlackRece
[12:00] <ubotu> BlackRece: Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).
[12:01] <chefle> cwillu, aptitude finally updated the packages, rebooting now :)
[12:01] <nemilar> josiahw: you can try asking, but I know very little about the gimp
[12:01] <DRebellion> How can I stop Rhythmbox starting up every time I plug in my iPod?
[12:01] <ompaul> josiahw, your idea of easy may be hard or very simple people won't know until you ask. then and only then will the know if they can answer it and attempts may or may not be made based on viewing the question -   so just ask the channel not one individual and see what happens
[12:02] <nemilar> DRebellion: prefs - removable drives & media
[12:02] <BlackRece> but i've done that, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/54228/
[12:02] <josiahw> I didnt know if I should ask in the channel but here goes... I closed the right panel that has the layers in it and dont know how to get it back :)
[12:02] <jimcooncat> suweid: I'm just guessing, but I'd try removing the /etc/apache2 directory, purging, then reinstalling
[12:02] <nemilar> josiahw: in the file menu, dialogs, layers
[12:02] <nemilar> that one I know ;)
[12:03] <jimcooncat> suweid: If you don't need apache, there are other web servers. I like thttpd
[12:03] <DRebellion> nemilar: thanks, heh, i just disabled pretty much everthing. _I_ decide what I want to do when I plug something in :P
[12:03] <nemilar> DRebellion: yeah, I did the same a while ago, took me a little while to find it, too.... in Hardy it's in the Nautilus preferences
[12:03] <bmjackal> My xawtv doesn't record into AVI format - the shell says "no way to get: 384x288 15 bit TrueColor (LE)", anyone knows how to fix this? :(
[12:04] <suweid> hm, sounds reasonable. But i want to know the general method of fixing a problem after sudormrf-ing something out of existance.. :D
[12:04] <nemilar> suweid: what's the prob?
[12:04] <josiahw> nemilar: thank you
[12:04] <nemilar> you rm -fr'd something important, huh
[12:04] <suweid> Maybe not a strictly ubuntuesque question, but suppose I installed Apache and it worked fine, untill I sudormrf:ed some configuation files away. I don't need nothing fancy schmansy configuration, i just want the default files to magically reappear. I've tried reinstalling apache, but that doesn't help. What to do?
[12:04] <suweid> (repost)
[12:04] <nemilar> josiahw: yeah glad I could help
[12:04] <nemilar> suweid: dpkg --re-configure I suppose
[12:05] <erUSUL> suweid: i will remove --purge the apache conf files and installing them again
[12:05] <hatter> 'theme' is missing from my system->preferences menu bar, how do i get it back ?
[12:05] <BlackRece> i've setup iptables (http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/54228/) but anything i plug into the gateway can connect to the internet
[12:05] <nemilar> yeah man you gotta be more careful with rm -fr
[12:05] <nemilar> and sudo
[12:05] <nemilar> you gotta type the "sudo" for a reason
[12:06] <DRebellion> Do I need 'tracker' to index my files? The only way I every search is with 'locate'...
[12:06] <nemilar> BlackRece: did you try a gui for iptables?
[12:06] <nemilar> DRebellion: for beagle or trackerd, yeah
[12:06] <suweid> I've tried everything, and I still get /etc/apache2/apache2.conf doesn't exist message
[12:06] <nemilar> locate runs its own indexer, DRebellion
[12:06] <DRebellion> nemilar: ok, away it goes :P
[12:06] <ricanelite757> anyone here know what is a good app I could use so I view videos, audio, pictures from either my Xbox 360 or PS3?
[12:06] <nemilar> DRebellion: haha, did that one, too
[12:06] <imaginal> hatter: right click the bar, then edit menus
[12:07] <Industrial> How do I disable the pcspeaker?
[12:07] <Industrial> I want it gone forever not just from one or 2 apps by config
[12:07] <Industrial> shitty beep :P
[12:07] <DRebellion> !language | Industrial
[12:07] <ubotu> Industrial: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[12:07] <Dr_willis> Industrial,  wirecutters.
[12:07] <nemilar> lol the system beep?
[12:07] <nemilar> lol yeah
[12:07] <Industrial> Dr_willis: its a laptop
[12:07] <Dr_willis> Industrial,  xset b 0 0 0   - should kill those apps that use tye ssytem beep.
[12:07] <suweid> Industrial, there's a compiz option to do that. I have it flash the erroring window instead. Much nicer.
[12:08] <Dr_willis> Industrial,  glue. :)
[12:08] <Industrial> DRebellion: oh sorry didnt know this was a family irc channel ...
[12:08] <BlackRece> nemilar: no
[12:08] <hatter> imaginal, thanks, but then i need to know the program name of themes dont i ?
[12:08] <chefle> cwillu, thanks for your help
[12:08] <nemilar> BlackRece: give a GUI a try... IPtables is pretty complex to do via the command line
[12:08] <Tyczek> hi i'm trying to compile mpd, and i'm at compiling libvorbis... but error after make install http://wklej.org/id/9e803f5a98
[12:08] <Industrial> but there is no way to blacklist the module?
[12:08] <BlackRece> nemilar: did u see my paste (http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/54228/)
[12:09] <nemilar> Tyczek: mpd is in repos
[12:09] <imaginal> hatter: errr... appearance?
[12:09] <Industrial> thats what i'd do in eg archlinux. blacklist it so it doesnt load
[12:09] <bardyr> Industrial, /etc/modprobe/blacklist
[12:09] <Tyczek> nemilar, but, it doesn't have m4a support
[12:09] <bmjackal> Does anyone know what's going on? Xawtv doesn't record AVI files - when I try to, it says "no way to get this-and-that" in the shell. Anyone knows the solution please?
[12:09] <Dr_willis> Industrial,  theres a blacklist file on ubuntu.
[12:09] <Dr_willis> !blacklist | Industrial
[12:09] <ubotu> Industrial: To blacklist a module, edit /etc/modprobe.d/my_blacklist and add « blacklist <modulename> » to the end of that list - To explicitly load modules in a specific order, list them in /etc/initramfs-tools/modules and type « sudo update-initramfs -u »
[12:10] <suweid> apart from it taking all day, is there any benefit of compiling Gnome or KDE yourself?
[12:10] <Dr_willis> suweid,  doubtfull.
[12:10] <jimcooncat> suweid: not unless you have reason to monkey with it
[12:10] <usr13_> BlackRece: What is your problem?
[12:10] <suweid> And by monkey you mean greasemonkey?
[12:11] <sashimi> hi tehre
[12:11] <nemilar> Tyczek: you raise a good point
[12:11] <sashimi> there
[12:11] <jimcooncat> suweid: no, you can monkey with greasemonkey anytime you want
[12:11] <sashimi> anyone here using ATI hardware ?
[12:11] <suweid> Okay, this is personal now.
[12:11] <Tyczek> nemilar, you mean ? :)
[12:11] <nemilar> Tyczek: that it doesn't have m4a support, is a good reason to compile it
[12:11] <Tyczek> nemilar, yeah
[12:11] <BlackRece> usr13_: I want to setup 7.10 as firewall, web host, heres what i've done so far (http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/54228/) any other pc can't see internet or network
[12:11] <nemilar> Tyczek: unfortunately that isn't something that can really be supported here
[12:12] <nemilar> BlackRece: setup the GUI
[12:12] <Tyczek> nemilar, yeah I know, but I think I'll do it (with a luck) ^^
[12:12] <suweid> by why do people do it then? To waste cpu cycles and perfectly good electricity? Aren't there superscripts that disable half the stuff I won't need? Well, thre should be!
[12:12] <BlackRece> nemilar: which one?
[12:12] <usr13_> BlackRece: So this Ubuntu machine is the GW?  You have your LAN going throu it?
[12:12] <nemilar> Tyczek: yeah I'm sure you can get it to work
[12:12] <nemilar> BlackRece: Firestarter perhaps
[12:12] <usr13_> BlackRece: You need a firewall script.
[12:12] <BlackRece> usr13: that's the plan
[12:13] <jimcooncat> sashimi: seriously, unless there are features you want or don't want in a package, there's no advantage to compiling yourself. Unless you want to play with optimization settings, but then you'd have to be better than the ubuntu devs. That's pretty tough to do.
[12:13] <usr13_> BlackRece: You can use firestarter, yes, or you can build a script or download one.
[12:13] <BlackRece> usr13: i'm a coder, would rather make it my self
[12:13] <usr13_> BlackRece: Right now, you're not blocking anything.
[12:14] <BlackRece> usr13: is that from my paste?/
[12:14] <usr13_> BlackRece: Well look at some first
[12:14] <jimcooncat> sashimi: if you want a speed boost for a bit of extra work, you'd do well to look into prelinking
[12:14] <jimcooncat> oops sorry sashimi, I meant those comments for suweid
[12:15] <usr13_> BlackRece: http://www.malibyte.net/iptables/scripts/firewall.iptables-generic
[12:15] <usr13_> There's one  ^^
[12:16] <suweid> jimcooncat, but ubuntu devs make a general package; and I also I'm brilliant. :)
[12:17] <jimcooncat> suweid: cool. I cut my teeth with gentoo, compiling can be quite fun learning experience
[12:18] <suweid> I don't see what's fun in waiting for something to compile for 100 hours, but I could do without a lot of stuff in gnome, lemme tell you... :D
[12:18] <rich__> is there a way of checking the most recently installed updates?
[12:19] <rich__> and is there a way of rolling back like in windows~?
[12:19] <usr13_> BlackRece: If you are interesting in really high security, you will want to dedicate a PC to be a firewall only.
[12:19] <DiploCat> has anyone experienced Xorg (on 7.10) chewing up excessive processing power, slowing down the system after long periods of idleness? Perhaps it's compiz...
[12:21] <Ax-Ax> :(:(:
[12:21] <jimcooncat> suweid: if you have multiple boxes you can run distcc :-)
[12:22] <Ax-Ax> if easytag says that i'm not permitted to change names on my music, is it because of some permissions stuff?
[12:22] <Ax-Ax> i was able to move the files as normal user
[12:22] <Dr_willis> Ax-Ax,  most likely.  See who owns the files. and wht permissions they are.
[12:22] <SinnerG> wish me good luck for later lol - switching to (k)ubuntu in an hour or so (coming from winxp)
[12:23] <pctrasher> hello
[12:23] <imaginal> SinnerG: good luck!
[12:23] <pctrasher> can explain me someone how i activate an SW-proxy like AnalogX proxy?
[12:23] <Surininspire-com> Hello , what is the ubuntu default shell ?
[12:23] <pctrasher> becose i cant send files without
[12:24] <sean__> surininspire-com- BASH
[12:24] <Dr_willis> dash is the 'system' shell. :) bash is the users normal shell.
[12:24] <pras> hi....i am trying to use my Biometrika fx2000 device on debian but it is not working ..please help me
[12:25] <Surininspire-com> sean__ , is BASH the best ?
[12:25] <sean__> Dr_Willis I defer to your superior knowledge
[12:25] <jimcooncat> I'm confused with bash and dash too
[12:26] <Dr_willis> Surininspire-com,  Bash is so common - its the one you want to learn to use.
[12:26] <sean__> Surinspire I think ita matter of
[12:26] <rich__> is there a way of checking the most recently installed updates?
[12:26] <rich__> and is there a way of rolling back like in windows~?
[12:26] <sean__> learning the same one everyone else uses
[12:26] <Dr_willis> jimcooncat,  dash is a 'sh' replacement thats a little faster in ways. Theres Issues with some scripts that call 'sh' when they are really wanting to use bash.
[12:27] <usr13_> BlackRece: http://www.malibyte.net/iptables/scripts/fwscripts.html
[12:27] <DRebellion> rich__: /var/log/dpkg.log
[12:27] <imaginal> Dr_willis: so why does the system use dash?
[12:27] <Dr_willis> jimcooncat,  when they first did the change - it was a bit of a issue. but not seen much problems these days. Some  people still cant  understand why  their scripts break with dash :) its because they are using  Bash features in sh. which is wrong.
[12:27] <Dr_willis> imaginal,  its faster/smaller
[12:28] <Surininspire-com> what is the best text editor ( in shell ) ?
[12:28] <nemilar> Yo, it's the strangest thing
[12:28] <Wi1d> Surininspire-com: VIM
[12:28] <DRebellion> !best | Surininspire-com
[12:28] <nemilar> I have two ubuntu 7.10 installations, one of them sh points to dash, another it points to bash
[12:28] <ubotu> Surininspire-com: Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose among a number of different applications, depending on your preferences, the features you require, and other factors. Do NOT take polls in the channel. If you really insist on getting people's opinions, join #ubuntu-bots and ask there.
[12:28] <redmonkey> what do you prefer.. black on white or white on black? :)
[12:28] <sean__> lol
[12:28] <jimcooncat> Dr_willis: thanks. I'll makes sure my #! lines point to bash from now on instead of sh
[12:28] <Dr_willis> redmonkey,  iperfer green on black. :)
[12:28] <nemilar> Surininspire-com: text editors are the source of flame wars in linux
[12:28] <redmonkey> good choice too :)
[12:29] <Dr_willis> Surininspire-com,  which text editor i use.. depends on what sort of editing i am doing. :)
[12:29] <nemilar> Surininspire-com: there's lots of options.  For simplicity, pico and nano; the main two are vim and emacs;  then there's always my favorite, joe
[12:29] <Dr_willis> I like the 'fte' text editor.
[12:29] <Dr_willis> dont forget mcedit also
[12:29] <Surininspire-com> sorry , I'm new so I would like to know the most prefer.
[12:29] <pras> how to use Biometrika device in ubuntu??
[12:29] <nemilar> the first editor I used was joe, so that's what I know the best and like the most
[12:29] <sean__> sun i use gedit
[12:29] <Dr_willis> Surininspire-com,  stick with a simpler one.. then learn vi when you can.
[12:29] <nemilar> Surininspire-com: I believe the most popular would probably be vim
[12:29] <DRebellion> !ot
[12:30] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[12:30] <sean__> or pico
[12:30] <chazco> Hi
[12:30] <imaginal> I prefer vim. It is familiar
[12:30] <redmonkey> nano is my favorite
[12:30] <nemilar> It's best to know vim, even if you prefer something else though.  Vi can be found on almost all unix installs
[12:30] <Surininspire-com> I've try vi, it seem strange editor.
[12:30] <Dr_willis> Surininspire-com,  just rember in nano when the  help says use  '^w' or similer.. that ^ means use the CONTROL key. ^w = Ctrl-w
[12:31]  * sean__ dons asbestos junderwaer for the vi vs everything flame war :)
[12:31] <Dr_willis> Surininspire-com,  run vimtutor it is an interactive tutorial
[12:31] <nemilar> JOE is clearly the best text editor.
[12:31] <DRebellion> !offtopic
[12:31] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter.  That way you cut out line wrapping, and you get a backup file
[12:31] <nemilar> lol
[12:31] <sean__> lol
[12:31] <debasys> Surininspire-com: check MP
[12:32] <debasys> Surininspire-com: i mean PM
[12:32] <Surininspire-com> ok , Thank for all opinion
[12:32] <imaginal> See what you started?
[12:32] <pras> jimcooncat:how to make use of device Biometrika fx2000 fingerprint scanner in ubuntu?
[12:33] <newermind> is it "kde-base" for kde4 that I must apt-get in order to use kde4?
[12:33] <jimcooncat> pras: not my area of expertise, I'm afraid
[12:33] <Dr_willis> KDE 4.0 is OUT! Support in #kubuntu-kde4
:how to make use of device Biometrika fx2000 fingerprint scanner in ubuntu?
[12:34] <terje_> quit
[12:34] <jimcooncat> pras: I would guess that you'd want to look through their docs on how to incorporate it with PAM.
[12:34] <rich__> thanks Drebllion
[12:35] <pctrasher> !help
[12:35] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[12:35] <DRebellion> !msgthebot | pctrasher
[12:35] <ubotu> pctrasher: Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (type also /msg ubotu Bot). Don't use commands in the public channels if you don't know if they really exist. Also avoid adding joke/useless factoids.
 i am getting error for initializing device by command #FxReset -p 0 as..FXOEM Open Channel: error 116 so i am stuck that position
[12:36] <Dr_willis> pras,  no idea. I look at those fingerprint scanners and think.. what a rip-off gimmic. :) check the ubuntu forums/google I guess.
[12:37] <pctrasher> some one can explain how i activate aptproxy and how i have to config the xchat for use conex thru the proxy?
[12:38] <jimcooncat> pras: sorry, means nothing to me. It makes me wonder if it's linux compatible.
[12:39] <Liquid> hi I downloaded a desktop ubuntu called "ubuntu-7.10-desktop-amd64" but now I am not sure if it works also on intel :(
[12:39] <pras> jimcooncat: it is compatible with linux as per there site officially supported by red hat fedora and suse only..
[12:39] <DiploCat> this walkthrough helped me setup my fingerprint reader: http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/How_to_enable_the_fingerprint_reader
[12:39] <jimcooncat> pctrasher: I don't think aptproxy is what you're looking for to tunnel xchat traffic. aptproxy is more like making your own package repository
[12:39] <jrib> Liquid: why do you want 64bit?
[12:39] <Liquid> because I have more than 4gb ram
[12:39] <jrib> Liquid: it will work on intel
[12:40] <Liquid> okay thx
[12:40] <nemilar> Liquid: it will work on intel 64-bit procs
[12:40] <jimcooncat> pras, did they provide you with a .deb file to install?
[12:40] <Liquid> okay thx
[12:40] <Liquid> How can I burn it now on a cd?
[12:40] <nemilar> lol, I love that 64-bit software is so junky that the only reason to want it isn't for the additional 32 bits of processing power, it's so you can handle more RAM
[12:40] <jrib> !burn > liquid (read the private message from ubotu)
[12:41] <Liquid> okay lol
[12:41] <Liquid> thx
[12:41] <imaginal> Does anyone in here code for a living? Did you go to school?
[12:41] <jrib> !offtopic | imaginal
[12:41] <ubotu> imaginal: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[12:42] <pras> jimcooncat:no no..they have given me sorce code of driver and FxReset utility..they have given other packages like gui for it but it is in RPM as well compiled driver for red hat,suse,fedora
[12:42] <pctrasher> jimcooncat,  and what should i take for tunneling thru an proxy
[12:42] <pctrasher> ?
[12:43] <jimcooncat> pctrasher: I use ssh, but you'd need an ssh server somewhere on the outside. other than that I wouldn't know
[12:43] <mrmonday> how can you configure ubuntu to automatically run programs at start up via  a command line?
[12:43] <Liquid> what is x64?
[12:43] <Liquid> 64bit os?
[12:44] <jimcooncat> pras: maybe you could try installing their rpm with alien
[12:44] <bullgard4> Why does 'smbclient -L localhost -U%' print different values for domain, server and master compared with 'smbclient -L Amilo7600'? (http://ubuntuusers.de/paste/32673)
[12:44] <Dr_willis> mrmonday,  depends on what programs you are wanting to start up
[12:44] <pctrasher> jimcooncat,  the trouble i have is that i cant send files to adsl users
[12:44] <Liquid> http://infrarecorder.sourceforge.net/?page_id=5   <--- if i have vista 64bit.. whoch file should i donwload?
[12:44] <Liquid> x64?
[12:44] <pctrasher> on windows i use mirc and analogxproxy for send files
[12:45] <jimcooncat> pctrasher: why not post them to the web and send them a link?
 but first it has to work with command line because gui also using internally that command
[12:45] <Liquid> http://infrarecorder.sourceforge.net/?page_id=5   <--- if i have vista 64bit.. whoch file should i donwload?
[12:45] <mrmonday> Dr_willis, what would be used for the different things that need to automatically run?
[12:45] <pctrasher> becose im op on a channel and i need to send from there
[12:46] <Dr_willis> mrmonday,  services are ran one way, systme things in rc.local, gnome has a session manager feature.
[12:46] <nemilar> Liquid: x64
[12:46] <mrmonday> Dr_willis, it's for a server version of ubuntu, and afaik it isn't a service
[12:46] <Ax-Ax> how do i check permissions on files?
[12:46] <pctrasher> ok, i could use mirc with wine. But i think that it would be possible to make it work also whit xchat
[12:46] <nemilar> Ax-Ax: ls -l
[12:46] <Ax-Ax> ok :)
[12:47] <Dr_willis> mrmonday,  then what is it?
[12:47] <Dr_willis> mrmonday,  most likely you want to run it from rc.local then
[12:47] <Ax-Ax> okay
[12:47] <Ax-Ax> hao do i change permissions on files?
[12:47] <nemilar> chmod
[12:47] <mrmonday> Dr_willis, how would I set that up? (if you tell me what file to edit I can use the googles :)
[12:47] <nemilar> chmod [permission settings] file
[12:48] <nemilar> !chmod
[12:48] <Dr_willis> mrmonday,  the file is /etc/rc.local
[12:48] <ubotu> An explanation of how files and directories are organized on Ubuntu, and how they can be manipulated, can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LinuxFilesystemTreeOverview
[12:48] <mrmonday> Dr_willis, thanks
[12:49] <jay-oh-en> is there a way to add more translucency throughout my desktop
[12:49] <mrmonday> Dr_willis, what would I do about services?
[12:49] <nemilar> Ax-Ax: it takes a little getting used to chmod... there are two ways to manipulate the permissions.  one is by [type]+/-[permissions] (for example g+rw is group, add read and write), the other is hex... '1' is execute, '2' is write, and '4' is read; you add them to create total permissions, and it's in the form of [owner][group][other]
[12:50] <jay-oh-en> is gnome-look.org down?
[12:50] <Dr_willis> mrmonday,  you make a service script for them like the other sysv service scripts in /etc/
[12:50] <nemilar> Ax-Ax: so for example 755 is "owner can read, write, execute; group and other can read and execute"
[12:50] <mrmonday> Dr_willis, is that just 'put a shell file in /etc/init.d'?
[12:50] <Dr_willis> mrmonday,  they are more then just a simple shell script
[12:50] <nemilar> jay-oh-en: seems like it
[12:50] <Ax-Ax> nemilar, i want to change owner from root to my user axel
[12:51] <vonSmallhausen> I was told that this was the place to go if you need help with ubuntu?
[12:51] <nemilar> Ax-Ax: oh, then that's not changing permissions (chmod), that changing owner, or chown
[12:51] <vinicius> im trying to compile alsa and im getting this error right here: http://paste.debian.net/48260 anyone knows what's going on?
[12:51] <Ax-Ax> oh
[12:51] <nemilar> Ax-Ax: chown [new owner] [file]
[12:51] <nemilar> chown axel filename
[12:51] <jay-oh-en> can somebody help me add more translucency throughout my desktop
[12:51] <nemilar> Ax-Ax: for groups, it's seperated by a :   so it's chown user:group filename
[12:51] <Dr_willis> jay-oh-en,  clarify that question a bit. You Might want to check out the compiz features
[12:51] <Ax-Ax> nemilar: :):)
[12:52] <vonSmallhausen> Can someone help me get internet on my ubuntu laptop? -.-
[12:52] <Rufus__> is there a program where I can convert OGG files to something like mpeg?
[12:52] <nemilar> Ax-Ax: glad to help
[12:52] <sev_> Guys how to you view Windows .hlp files?
[12:52] <rich__> How can I pipe an 'ls' output into a 'mv' command?
[12:52] <jrib> rich__: what exactly do you want to do?
[12:52] <nemilar> sev_: try the CHM viewer
[12:52] <Wi1d> rich__: ` `
[12:52] <rich__> i want to match some files in a directory and then move them to another location
[12:52] <nemilar> Wi1d: that's not a pipe ;)
[12:53] <sev_> nemilar: you think it will view both .chm and .hlp?
[12:53] <Wi1d> Yeah but that would work
[12:53] <rich__> ll *match* | mv somewhere else
[12:53] <bolt> on a machine with no cd-rom and no network boot, is it possible to boot from a floppy, mount the iso from an nfs or samba share and continue booting from that?
[12:53] <nemilar> sev_: no ;) but if you get lucky the .hlp file is really a chm
[12:53] <jay-oh-en> Dr_willis, not compiz unless your willing to help me get it setup otherwise no but like in windows and applications|
[12:53] <Rufus__> anyone?
[12:53] <sev_> nemilar: the point is the file I need is .hlp *cryes*
[12:53] <jrib> rich__: why would 'mv *match* somewhere_else' not work?
[12:54] <Dr_willis> jay-oh-en,  compiz is included in ubuntu,  and it can set arbitary transparency on seperate windows.
[12:54] <jan__> how to instal kde to ubuntu?
[12:54] <jay-oh-en> Dr_willis, that sounds nice
[12:54] <nemilar> rich__: ls *whatever* | xargs mv -t /path/to/target
[12:54] <jrib> !kde > jan__ (read the private message from ubotu)
[12:54] <Dr_willis> !compiz | jay-oh-en
[12:54] <vonSmallhausen> How can I get internet when ubuntu refuses to notice that it's plugged in to a cabel network with a perfect internetconnection (the one I'm on now) adn still don't want to be abel to even notice the router?
[12:54] <sev_> jan__: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[12:54] <Dr_willis> jay-oh-en,  install the ccsm tool for maxamized compiz setting-tweaking
[12:55] <Dr_willis> !ccsm | jay-oh-en
[12:55] <rich__> -t , thanks!!!
[12:55] <jay-oh-en> !ping
[12:55] <nemilar> vonSmallhausen: is it detecting your network card correctly ?
[12:55] <Ax-Ax> nemilar: how can i change permissions to read and write for my user? i didn't get that
[12:55] <ubotu> jay-oh-en: Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - help in #compiz-fusion
[12:55] <nemilar> Ax-Ax: chmod o+rw filename
[12:55] <ubotu> jay-oh-en: To enable advanced customization of desktop effects in Ubuntu 7.10 (Gutsy), install 'compizconfig-settings-manager'. A new option will appear in your appearance properties - See also !compiz - Help in #compiz-fusion
[12:55] <ubotu> ping yourself ;-) really the diodes all down my left side are sore
[12:55] <nemilar> Ax-Ax: that was wrong
[12:55] <Ax-Ax> :):)
[12:55] <Ax-Ax> :(:(
[12:55] <Rufus__> is there a program where I can convert OGG files to something like mpeg?
[12:55] <nemilar> Ax-Ax: haha
[12:55] <Ax-Ax> :S:S
[12:55] <sev_> lol
[12:55] <jrib> rich__: seems like a useless use of ls
[12:56] <mrmonday> Rufus__, soundconvertor should do it if you have the right codecs installed
[12:56] <Ax-Ax> what's correct then?
[12:56] <nemilar> Ax-Ax: sorry, I _always_ make that mistake
[12:56] <Rufus__> thanks
[12:56] <nemilar> Ax-Ax: it's u, not o
[12:56] <sedra> Rufus, sudo apt-get install sound converter
[12:56] <nemilar> Ax-Ax: chmod u+rw filename
[12:56] <zoki> hi, where can i read about planing the partitions for new installation of ubuntu ?
[12:56] <nemilar> 'u' for 'users that owns the file'
[12:56] <mrmonday> !info soundconverter | Rufus__
[12:56] <ubotu> rufus__: soundconverter (source: soundconverter): Convert audio files into other formats. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.9.6-1 (gutsy), package size 65 kB, installed size 428 kB
[12:56] <Ax-Ax> yay
[12:56] <vonSmallhausen> nemilar I belive it does. It tells me that I can choose dhcp, static and local zeroconf, other then that, I can not tell.
[12:57] <nemilar> vonSmallhausen: you're using dhcp I'm guessing?
[12:57] <vonSmallhausen> nemilar ofc
[12:57] <sedra> Rufus ,audio or video?
[12:57] <nemilar> vonSmallhausen: it broadcasts but doesn't get a response?
[12:57] <Rufus__> mrmonday, is that in the repositories?
[12:57] <mrmonday> Rufus__, it's in the universe repositories
[12:57] <vonSmallhausen> nemilar What do you mean by broadcast?
[12:57] <Rufus__> and how is it spelled?
[12:58] <nemilar> vonSmallhausen: if it's using DHCP, it will broadcast a request out to the network for an IP address
 rufus__: soundconverter (source: soundconverter):
[12:58] <nemilar> vonSmallhausen: then the router should say "okay, here's your assigned IP address"
[12:58] <vonSmallhausen> nemilar How do I check that it does?
[12:58] <noppe> what are the alternatives to kaffeine in regards to dvb-s and setting timers and recording tv?
[12:58] <Rufus__> thanks
[12:58] <fsckr> what version of ubuntu is after 7.10?
[12:58] <kritzstapf> why does is take more than month to fix the flashplugin-nonfree package in the gutsy tree?
[12:58] <nemilar> vonSmallhausen: what happens if you sudo /sbin/ifup eth0 ?
[12:58] <sedra> 8.04
[12:59] <Dr_willis> noppe,  MythTV is handy for tv recording/scheduling/other features
[12:59] <jrib> kritzstapf: waiting on fixes to konq last I read
[12:59]  * Dr_willis seconds what jrib  says
[12:59] <sedra> anyone knwo how to add xine engine to totem?
[12:59] <kritzstapf> jrib: konq?
[12:59] <nemilar> kritzstapf: because it's non-free
[12:59] <fsckr> sedra, wherei is the link for that for some reason I can't find it.  I just want to read up on it.
[12:59] <jrib> kritzstapf: konqueror
[12:59] <nemilar> kritzstapf: ubuntu developers can't edit the source of the plugin, so it's harder to fix
[12:59] <vonSmallhausen> nemilar /sbin/ifup: interface eth0 already configured
[12:59] <Dr_willis> there are unoffical fixed debs out..  but they break flash in konqueror.
[12:59] <fsckr> sedra, nm i got it :_
[13:00] <nemilar> vonSmallhausen: /sbin/ifdown eth0 first then, then ifup
[13:00] <noppe> Dr_willis: okay thanks. do you happen to know if it uses a lot of resources?
[13:00] <kritzstapf> nemilar: there is a package downloadable from launchpad for some time, cant be too hard to put this in the tree
[13:00] <nemilar> kritzstapf: that's unofficial
[13:00] <nemilar> things don't get added into the official repos unless they're known to be stable
[13:01] <nemilar> like someone said, it breaks it in konq
[13:01] <kritzstapf> i thought it was just the checksum needed to be changed
[13:01] <jay-oh-en> Dr_willis, but compiz seems way too much for me, i just want windows to be transparent and no window borders
[13:01] <Dr_willis> noppe,   tv shows take up a lot of hd space..  #mythbuntu for  help on  it.  - it also depends on how you defind 'a lot' :)
[13:01] <kritzstapf> but when its not working with konqueror, i understand...
[13:01] <Ranpha1> Does somebody knwo the linux-wacom dev package? if so is there on for 64bit systems?
[13:01] <noppe> Dr_willis: more than kaffeine ;)
[13:01] <Rufus__> soundconverter doesnt do it
[13:01] <nemilar> things are tested extensively on a wide variety of platforms before they're considered to be stable
[13:01] <Dr_willis> jay-oh-en,  compiz is proberly your ownly option for doing that for any/all windows.  Unless you want to clarify what you are trying to do more specifically.
[13:01] <vonSmallhausen> nemilar lots of text and the 2 last lines says "No DHCPOFFERS recived." "No working leases in presitent database - sleeping."
[13:02] <nemilar> vonSmallhausen: sounds like a problem outside of ubuntu
[13:02] <Dr_willis> noppe,  mythtv is a whole PVR system. its a rather complex setup. :) but not too hard.   so of course its got more needs then a single player app.
[13:02] <sedra> Rufus , you want to convert video or audio?
[13:02] <vonSmallhausen> nemilar :/ The router perhaps?
[13:02] <nemilar> vonSmallhausen: did you have windows on this machine previously, and have networking working?
[13:02] <nemilar> vonSmallhausen: Check that the router is set for DHCP, and that it will allow any clients
[13:02] <vonSmallhausen> nemilar It had vista when it was deliverd yes.
[13:03] <nemilar> vonSmallhausen: it's possible that the router is just being picky about who it's offering IP addresses to
[13:03] <kirved> now i first time runned ubuntu on my machine but where the heck i can found ready binary Mplayer for ubuntu
[13:03] <rich__> ive just run an awk '{print $8}' and its missing half of the filename, any ideas why?
[13:03] <kirved> like windows has
[13:04] <noppe> Dr_willis: well, do you happen to know something like kaffeine for dvb-s? I don't really need a whole PVR.
[13:04] <vonSmallhausen> nemilar Strange, then it's picking on ubuntu ;( There are 2 other laptops but with windows on them who does not have an assinge IP adress, but are able to connect to the internet.
[13:04] <nemilar> kirved: mplayer is available in add/remove packages
[13:04] <jrib> rich__: what's the whole command you are running?
[13:04] <nemilar> vonSmallhausen: some routers do strange things :-/
[13:04] <vonSmallhausen> nemilar Evil D-Link..
[13:05] <nemilar> haha, yeah d-links are some of the strangest
[13:05] <Codenut> how do I disable certian programs from other users to see?
[13:05] <nemilar> uh oh someone's doing something naughty
[13:05] <kirved> but i want download mplayer binary pack and use it like windows i have mplayer.exe in folder and launch it from there
[13:05] <nemilar> Codenut: what do you mean by see?  do you mean, you don't want them to be able to run the programs?
[13:05] <Dr_willis> noppe,  no idea.  on that.
[13:06] <vonSmallhausen> nemilar But you were saying something about having windows on tha machine before installing ubuntu. How does that affect the system?
[13:06] <jrib> kirved: those are the w32codecs.  Install them from the medibuntu repos
[13:06] <nemilar> kirved: that's not the way ubuntu works... install mplayer from the add/remove programs, and it will be added to the menus, or you can launch it from the command line
[13:06] <zoki> who can advice me how to efficiently and good partition disk for fresh installation ? :)
[13:06] <jrib> !medibuntu > kirved (read the private message from ubotu)
[13:06] <rich__> ls *string* | xargs mv -t newdir/
[13:06] <coolbhavi> How to run a task each time a user logs on to gdm? Is there anyway to achieve the activity?
[13:06] <jrib> zoki: I just make a partition for swap, /home, and the rest
[13:06] <nemilar> zoki: you can just have a / and a swap partition, that's all ubuntu really needs
[13:06] <hugo_> yo!
[13:06] <nemilar> yo!!!!!
[13:07] <nemilar> SUP BRO!?!?
[13:07] <jrib> rich__: there's no awk there?
[13:07] <Codenut> That would be nice, or I just don´t want my 13 year old to do or see anything on my system
[13:07] <Dr_willis> rich__,  you an proberly do 'echo *string*' and not need ls.
[13:07] <nemilar> zoki: as far as efficiency, put your swap partition first...
[13:07] <Dr_willis> rich__,  be carefull withyour wildcards also.
[13:07] <rich__> i tried it without awk and the same happens, mv chops off the end of the filename
[13:07] <vonSmallhausen> nemilar ?
[13:07] <Ashtefere> hey guys, just followed the guide to install ubuntu on my eee-pc
[13:07] <rich__> and sasys the file doesnt exist
[13:07] <Ashtefere> but my lan isnt working
[13:07] <nemilar> Codenut: if you want to just make your home directory private, run 'chmod o-rwx ~ -R'
[13:07] <jrib> Dr_willis: he doesn't to pipe anything right? mv *string* location   would work
[13:07] <zoki> i meant like how big should swap be, how big home and /, maybe /etc on it's own partition ?
[13:08] <nemilar> vonSmallhausen: did you check your router settings?
[13:08] <Ashtefere> anything special i have to do to get lan working on my eee-pc?
[13:08] <rxndx> I have a quick question... I am working with a large text file in Gutsy and was wondering if there is a script that will allow me to remove a word that repeats several thousand times...
[13:08] <vonSmallhausen> nemilar What just is it that I'm sopposed to look for?
[13:08] <jrib> nemilar: no need for recursive, just setting HOME to that would work
[13:08] <kirved> i cannot install wine too, and i dont want mess with these commands
[13:08] <nemilar> rxndx: that's what sed/awk is for
[13:08] <jrib> Codenut:
[13:08] <rxndx> sed/awk?
[13:08] <rxndx> I'll google it
[13:08] <nemilar> jrib: but then someone can do 'less /home/user/.gaim/accounts.xml' and check out his password ;)
[13:08] <rxndx> nemilar, thank you
[13:08] <jrib> nemilar: can they?
[13:08] <nemilar> jrib: you bet'cha
[13:09] <hugo_> any one here playing bzflag?
[13:09] <nemilar> hugo_: I play it from time to time
[13:09] <Ashtefere> anything special i have to do to get lan working on my eee-pc?
[13:09] <hugo_> name?
[13:09] <jay-oh-en> anybody want to see what my desktop looks like and maybe you can give me some pointers to make it look better
[13:09] <nemilar> hugo_: nemilar
[13:09] <hugo_> ok
[13:09] <rich__> it doesnt like white space
[13:09] <Codenut> I can´t get squid to install using synaptic. There is an error and then I am old to manually edit a file because it is already in use.
[13:10] <Codenut> Same thing with ¨dansguardian.
[13:10] <kirved> where i can find simple setup package for wine (maybe builded with installjammer)
[13:10] <Arelis> I wish i could get Ubuntu to work normally.. but Ubuntu crashes, breaks down, gets unstable, and more. Right now i'm looking into the more technical distro's, because they're more stable.
[13:10] <jrib> nemilar: give it a try
[13:10] <nemilar> jrib: give what a try?
[13:11] <Karl_Sciberras> tajjeb
[13:11] <rich__> xargs is truncating the filename
[13:11] <Codenut> Is synaptic now set up for gutsy?
[13:11] <rich__> is there a way of passing the entire string?
[13:11] <jrib> nemilar: make a directory 700 and try to read the contents of a file inside with another user
[13:12] <rich__> the filename is like this filenamespace thentherest
[13:12] <carwe> can I just copy all files from "ubuntu-7.10-desktop-i386.iso" to my USB-stick and then boot the USB and use/install like a Live CD?
[13:12] <jrib> rich__: why are you refusing to do  mv *string* location    ?  enclose *string* in "" if you have space problems
[13:12] <jrib> !install > carwe (read the private message from ubotu)
[13:13] <erUSUL_> rich__: are you using xargs with find
[13:13] <erUSUL_> ?
[13:13] <nemilar> jrib: that's interesting... I _know_ that used to work
[13:13] <carwe> thx
[13:14] <kirved> where i can find good very simple setup for wine
[13:14] <jrib> nemilar: only if you have execute permissions on the directory
[13:14] <lollo> O
[13:14] <lollo> Oo hi everyone!
[13:14] <rich__> jrib, because then i cant test my list before i actually move the data
[13:15] <doktoreas> hello everybody
[13:15] <rich__> erUSUL ls *string* | xargs mv -t newdir
[13:15] <doktoreas> i am customizing an ubuntu livecd..wich files allow the autologin after the timeout?
[13:15] <erUSUL_> rich__: find . -name '*string*' -print0 | xargs -0 mv -t newdir   ??
[13:15] <jay-oh-en> anybody want to see what my desktop looks like and maybe you can give me some pointers to make it look better http://i154.photobucket.com/albums/s272/pronege/Desktop-1.png
[13:15] <jrib> rich__: so tell us exactly what you want to do
[13:16] <nemilar> jrib: ahh, interesting.  I was under the mistaken impression that execute only affect directory listing
[13:16] <erUSUL_> rich__: -0 and -print0 where designed to avoid whitespace filename problems
[13:16] <marion> Help - I can't get SSH connections working.
[13:16] <PriceChild> marion, have you installed openssh-server?
[13:16] <nemilar> marion: be a little more specific
[13:16] <kirved> where i can find simple wine installer like windows has
[13:16] <ompaul> marion, sudo apt-get install openssh-server
[13:17] <marion> PriceChild: Yes. And the server is running.
[13:17] <nemilar> marion: can you ssh to localhost?
[13:17] <PriceChild> marion, what problem are you having then?
[13:17] <lollo> !warcraft
[13:17] <jrib> nemilar: read permissions let you list contents and execute lets you cd in (as I remember)
[13:17] <ubotu> Information about games on Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Games and http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php
[13:17] <kirved> and do not tell me these sudo things just simple wine setup
[13:17] <ompaul> marion, ssh -C username@locahost
[13:18] <erUSUL_> kirved: Aplications>Add/remove  search for wine and instal it
[13:18] <aguitel> how mount pendrive ?
[13:18] <nemilar> openssh-server should be installed by default, imho
[13:18] <nemilar> I hate that it isn't.  someone needs to talk to someone about this.
[13:18] <marion> I just ssh to local host and I connected successfully.
[13:18] <nemilar> marion: did you forward port 22 in your router?
[13:18] <marion> nemilar: No. How does one do that?
[13:19] <Flynsarmy> What is the 'trackerd' process? It's using up 100% cpu usage
[13:19] <nemilar> marion: access your router's config in your web browser, and forward it
[13:19] <nemilar> Flynsarmy: it indexes your files for searching
[13:19] <lollo> i've installed the game ' world of padman ' , i had to download a particoular file (tar.bz2, 550mb) and now i wanna uninstall it but i can't see the game in add-remove application and in the synaptic packages window !
[13:19] <lollo> how can i uninstall it ?
[13:19] <Flynsarmy> nemilar: Does it launch itself automatically once every now and then or something? Is it supposed to use up 100% cpu usage for several mins (and counting)
[13:20] <nemilar> marion: after you do that, you may want to look at www.techthrob.com/tech/dyndns.php (shameless plug)
[13:20] <nemilar> Flynsarmy: yeah it'll sit around in the background, and index files every so often.  on first run it'll go for a while, since it has to index everything
[13:20] <nikolakis> hello everybody
[13:20] <nemilar> Flynsarmy: it's set to allow other processes priority in CPU usage, though
[13:21] <ompaul> lollo, you got to find all the parts of the game you installed by reading your make and config files there is no other way other than try to use checkinstall and if it works then you can see it in synaptic - building from source is not the best idea on planet earth
[13:21] <Flynsarmy> nemilar: OK, thanks for your help
[13:21] <nemilar> Flynsarmy: no prob
[13:21] <ompaul> !checkinstall | lollo
[13:21] <jay-oh-en> anybody want to see what my desktop looks like and maybe you can give me some pointers to make it look better http://i154.photobucket.com/albums/s272/pronege/Desktop-1.png
[13:21] <ubotu> lollo: checkinstall is a wrapper to "make install", useful for installing programs you compiled. It will create a .deb package, which will be listed in the APT database and can be uninstalled like other packages. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CheckInstall - Read the warnings at the top and bottom of that web page, and DO NOT interrupt CheckInstall while it's running!
[13:21] <zekix> whois is ubuntu fr?
[13:21] <ompaul> !fr
[13:21] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[13:21] <nemilar> !fr | zekix
[13:21] <ubotu> zekix: please see above
[13:21] <marion> nemilar: Do I need a trigger range or just enter the forward range?
[13:22] <nemilar> marion: for range, enter 22 and 22 as start and end
[13:22] <zekix> ?
[13:22] <zekix> ubuntufr?
[13:22] <nemilar> marion: just the forward range will do
[13:22] <Liquid> I tried to install ubuntu 7.10: I burned the iso on a cd and then inserted this one in my pc.. after that I rebooted my pc.. after a while a ubuntu screen appeared and there where several options.. 1. start or install ubuntu, install ubuntu with driver update ...etc.. i tried both but everytime i do that nothing happens.. only my screen gets black
[13:22] <Liquid> why?
[13:22] <sammyF> hey there. thinking about buying a new soundcard. which 5.1 able soundcard works well with gutsy?
[13:22] <jm_> hi
[13:23] <nemilar> sammyF: you can google for a list of well-supported cards
[13:23] <usr13_> jm_: hi
[13:23] <Liquid> should i try ubuntu with the save mode and then search for a new graphiccard driver or whats the problem?
[13:23] <zekix> whois is ubuntu french?
[13:23] <marion> nemilar: Ok. I think I did it right. I am using a Linksys and it was called port range forwarding.
[13:23] <sammyF> zekix, I'm french
[13:24] <nemilar> marion: sounds correct
[13:24] <jrib> zekix: /join #ubuntu-fr
[13:24] <jm_> front/
[13:24] <sammyF> zekix, or join ubuntu-fr ;)
[13:24] <nemilar> marion: now you should be able to ssh from the internet into your machine
[13:24] <marion> nemilar: So should I try again?
[13:24] <redmonkey> is there a website where you can search for ubuntu packages for all ubuntu versions?
[13:24] <jrib> redmonkey: packages.ubuntu.com   but why?
[13:25] <DRebellion> !hcl | sammyF
[13:25] <ubotu> sammyF: For lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport - To help debugging and improving hardware detection, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingHardwareDetection
[13:25] <dedi> haaaaaaaaiiiiiiiiiiiii
[13:25] <sammyF> nemilar: sigh ... sorry .. early morning ... I guess my brain hasn't start working yet
[13:25] <jm_> front/join #jm_
[13:25] <marion> nemilar: I am trying to connect from my desktop to my laptop. It still will not connect. It says connection refused.
[13:25] <kirved> where i can download binfmt-support dll files, i cannot install wine
[13:25] <sammyF> DRebellion: thx
[13:25] <dedi> haiiiiiiiii
[13:26] <DRebellion> kirved: are you trying to istall from source???
[13:26] <nemilar> marion: openssh-server is installed on your laptop, right?
[13:26] <kirved> no i want binary what is ready
[13:26] <redmonkey> jrib: thanks. i'm using ubuntu 7.10. is it possible to update some packages to a newer version than it is in the current repositories?
[13:26] <DRebellion> kirved: then just, sudo apt-get install wine
[13:26] <misteralexander_> I'm trying to configure my ATI Video Card (Vaio Laptop - Ubuntu 7.10). In terminal it says it can't write to XORG.CONF because of a "Bad Descriptor", any ideas???
[13:27] <marion> nemilar: Yes.
[13:27] <jrib> redmonkey: not safely unless you know what you are doing.  The best way is to use the backports repository.  Those packages are tested.
[13:27] <jrib> !backports > redmonkey (read the private message from ubotu)
[13:27] <nemilar> marion: on your desktop, do:    nmap [laptop's local IP address] -p 22
[13:27] <nemilar> marion: you'll probably have to apt-get install nmap
[13:27] <redmonkey> jrib: thanks again :)
[13:27] <kirved> do not work that sudo thing tryed it, i need pack that has all files like windows has
[13:28] <jrib> kirved: you want to install wine? correct?
[13:28] <misteralexander_> I'm trying to configure my ATI Video Card (Vaio Laptop - Ubuntu 7.10). In terminal it says it can't write to XORG.CONF because of a "Bad Descriptor", any ideas???
[13:28] <nemilar> kirved: wine can't come with a copy of windows, that would be stealing!
[13:28] <DASPRiD> hi, is it possible to use mythtv-backend on a ubuntu-server without an X display?
[13:28] <DRebellion> kirved: what do you mean by "does not work"? What is the error message from apt-get?
[13:28] <jm_> front/join #jm_
[13:29] <kirved> yes and i have wine_0.9.54~winehq0~ubuntu~7.10-1_i386.deb on my hdd and how i can launch it like windows setup.exe
[13:29] <Sharpie> when i try sending a message from evolution (using my gmail account), i get a failed delivery notification from gmail saying "the message was rejected as we do not accept emails that are sent from machines that use dynamic IP's". what can i do?
[13:30] <DRebellion> kirved: applications -> accessories -> terminal
[13:30] <DRebellion> kirved: then type, sudo apt-get install wine
[13:30] <karel> Hi, semi-ubuntu question but I suspect you guys to know this: I had a dualboot xp-ubuntu which have a fat32 partition for shared data. I removed ubuntu using a gparted livecd and resized the fat32 partition over it. Usually I boot a windows xp cd, go into repair and do a fixboot/fixmbr. Now however it tells me it can't find a harddrive... what can I do?
[13:30] <DRebellion> kirved: it will prompt you for a password, enter your own password
[13:30] <jm_> hi
[13:31] <kirved> i have livecd
[13:31] <kirved> on real hardware
[13:31] <DRebellion> kirved: you cannot install packages with a live cd
[13:31] <B-rabbit> DRebellion, nope
[13:31] <nemilar> B-rabbit: shhhhh
[13:31] <B-rabbit> ok
[13:31] <DRebellion> heh
[13:31] <B-rabbit> sorry
[13:31] <nemilar> haha
[13:31] <nemilar> :)
[13:32] <kirved> but i want launch binary files from package manually like in windows
[13:32] <chafka> how can i automaticaly mount fat32 partition.. and i also want to mount the partition on ubuntu start..
[13:32] <chafka> ?
[13:32] <nemilar> chafka: you can add it to your /etc/fstab
[13:32] <DRebellion> kirved: it doesn't work like that
[13:32] <erUSUL> !ntfs | chafka
[13:32] <ubotu> chafka: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - For write access, see /msg ubotu NTFS-3g or /msg ubotu FUSE
[13:32] <marion> nemilar: 22/tcp open ssh
[13:33] <jm_> front/join #seacat
[13:33] <nemilar> marion: surprising... but ssh'ing just denies you flat out?  without prompting for a user/password?
[13:33] <kirved> what if i collect binary applications for ubuntu to cd and i want install from cd so you want i cannot do that even if i have installed ubuntu
[13:33] <makkalot> hi all, i want to set up a mail server.Which one you offer me, want to be something easy to manage and setup and also secure :)
[13:34] <marion> nemilar: Agreed. I am using a machine name, could that be the problem?
[13:34] <knoppix> hello
[13:34] <nemilar> marion: use the IP address intead of the machine's name
[13:34] <nemilar> makkalot: exim is included in repos
[13:34] <DRebellion> !mta | makkalot
[13:34] <ubotu> makkalot: A Mail Transfer Agent (MTA) is the server software that sends and queues mail. The default MTA (and !MDA) on Ubuntu is !postfix ("exim" is also officially supported). See also !MailServer and !MUA
[13:34] <rich__> anyone know how to open chm files?
[13:35] <nemilar> rich__: chm viewer
[13:35] <DRebellion> rich__: i don't know how many times you have asked that question, but clearly nobody knows :P
[13:35] <makkalot> !MailServer
[13:35] <ubotu> Ubuntu supports the Simple Mail Transfer Protocol (SMTP) and provides mail server software of many kinds. You can install a basic email handling configuration with the "Mail server" task during installation, or with the "tasksel" command. See also https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MailServer and https://help.ubuntu.com/7.10/server/C/email-services.html
[13:35] <ATG> server irc.7chan.org
[13:35] <ATG> sorry
[13:35] <rich__> just once
[13:35] <th0r> DRebellion someone did
[13:35] <B-rabbit> !chm | rich__
[13:35] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about chm - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[13:36] <B-rabbit> rich__, i use xCHM
[13:36] <marion> nemilar: How do I find the IP address assigned by the router?
[13:36] <nemilar> rich__: gnochm is the name of the package for gnome
[13:36] <th0r> DRebellion and there's a second
[13:36] <nemilar> marion: you can just run ifconfig on the server
[13:36] <DRebellion> th0r: ;|
[13:36] <karel> no-one who can help me fix my windows boot? :(
[13:37] <th0r> karel boot from the windows cd, choose 'R'epair mode, and at the prompt type 'fixmbr'
[13:37] <rich__> thanks, i was using reader bot viewer for my searches, cheers
[13:38] <karel> th0r: that's what I normally do, but this time it tells me it can't find a harddrive... :S
[13:38] <kirved> does someone knows when i collect binary packages for ubuntu to cd (like windows has software on cd) can i install them whyle i do not have internet. is ubuntu backward compatible with setups like windows has.
[13:38] <marion> nemilar: Using the IP address worked. How can I use SSH if I am using DHCP with my router?
[13:38] <Industrial> hm. When I start up netbeans I get a window with the name License Agreement but there's nothing in it (so java error?) no errors or anything
[13:38] <th0r> karel when you installed ubuntu did you format the entire drive?
[13:38] <nemilar> marion: try SSH'ing to your internet IP address, you can get via www.ipchicken.com
[13:39] <rich__> how is apt-get purge different to apt-get remove?
[13:39] <karel> th0r: no, notice the problem occured when I removed my ubuntu partions ;)
[13:39] <marion> nemilar: won't the internet ip address change everytime I turn on the computer?
[13:39] <nemilar> marion: no, at least, it shouldn't
[13:39] <nemilar> marion: the router will generally keep track of that
[13:39] <Da_Putzler> hi guys, can someone help me with a broken dependency...  I cannot fix it without uninstallint ubuntu-desktop ??? help please
[13:39] <oskude> kirved, theres this http://aptoncd.sourceforge.net/ but i never used it
[13:40] <h6mi1007> hello can someone help me with terminal not loading?
[13:40] <nemilar> aptoncd is awesome, btw, for whoever is asking
[13:40] <th0r> karel how did you remove those partitions? You should have repaired windows first
[13:40] <bod_> hey guys,.i need some scripting help,.,. if im writing a script that needs to be used on more then 1 machine,. how do i make the script find the username,.,. eg   i have    sudo cp /home/bod/Desktop/pic /home/bod/Pictures/      that wont work on a machine without a user called bod  is there like a   $username    command?
[13:40] <nemilar> bod_: whoami
[13:41] <nemilar> will tell you the currently running user
[13:41] <oskude> kirved, an as far i know, aptoncd is in the ubuntu repos, so no need to install it from that site. just for the docs...
[13:41] <th0r> karel do you have another linux installed on the computer?
[13:41] <bod_> nemilar, how would i edit that cp command to use that?
[13:41] <nemilar> bod_: `whoami`
[13:41] <nemilar> with those types of quotes
[13:41] <karel> th0r: no
[13:41] <nemilar> `command` will replace the string with the output of the command, bod_
[13:41] <marion> nemilar: the internet ip address isn't going to work. For my desktop and my laptop it is the same because it is really the router that has an internet ip address, not the individual workstations.
[13:42] <bod_> nemilar, sudo cp /home/'whoami'/Desktop/pic?
[13:42] <th0r> karel at the moment can you get anything running on that computer? It sounds like you deleted the wrong partition(s)
[13:42] <oskude> bod_, on linux the characte ~ is a substitute for the users home dir
[13:42] <DRebellion> rich__: try checking the manual, man apt-get
[13:42] <erUSUL> bod_: use the $HOME variable that points to the home dir of the user launching the script
[13:42] <oskude> bod_, on bash i mean
[13:42] <nemilar> bod_: actually oskude just gave a better solution
[13:42] <karel> th0r: it's like this: everything worked in dualboot, I removed ubuntu partition and normally grub doesn't work then anymore and I fix it with a fixboot/fixmbr but this time it doesn't see my harddrive
[13:42] <nemilar> marion: I know... but your internal IP addresses won't change
[13:42] <bod_> oskude, ok cheers,.,. nemilar, thanks alot
[13:42] <karel> th0r: livecd's etc, but I don't have anything on the harddrive except windows normally
[13:43] <Da_Putzler> my GIMP package is broken and when I "sudo apt-get install -f" to fix it, it wants to remove ubuntu-desktop also... help pls...
[13:43] <nemilar> marion: if you want to use names instead of IP addresses, you can add a line to your hosts file
[13:43] <kirved> www.reactos.org is this somehow connected to ubuntu
[13:43] <Tyczek> hmm... I installed those mpd from source, but I don't know how to run that...
[13:43] <bod_> next question,.,. does anyone here make GDM login screens?
[13:43] <h6mi1007> does anyone know if installing restricted drivers for graphics may be a cause of terminal not loading?
[13:43] <nemilar> Tyczek: mpd is just a back-end, you need another program to actually do anything with it
[13:43] <marion> nemilar: where is the host file?
[13:43] <nemilar> marion: /etc/hosts
[13:43] <bod_> Da_Putzler, sudo apt-get purge *nameofpackage* && sudo apt-get install *nameofpackage*
[13:44] <th0r> karel it would have been safer to repair the mbr first and use windows to delete the partitions, but it should have worked the way you did it. Sounds like you deleted the wrong partition or the partition table got scrambled. Either way, if the install CD doesn't see anything you probably lost windows. I would try to reboot the livecd and run gparted from there to check the partition table
[13:44] <nemilar> h6mi1007: doubtful
[13:44] <Da_Putzler> thx bod
[13:44] <karel> th0r: how do I check it? (I suppose gparted livecd is ok, no need for ubuntu?)
[13:44] <bod_> Da_Putzler, no probs,. did it work?
[13:44] <Da_Putzler> bod: this wont touch ubuntu-desktop, right ?
[13:45] <rich__> yeah good shout
[13:45] <th0r> karel gparted is a program that is on the ubuntu livecd.Boot ubuntu livecd and check the partitions from there
[13:45] <oskude> h6mi1007, do you mean the text console ? if yes, what ever your X driver does, should in worst case fall back to text console
[13:45] <bod_> Da_Putzler, no it will remove the broken gimp,. then install a clean one,. you will be promptedd if it will touch desktop,.,. but i dont think it will
[13:45] <Tyczek> nemilar, I know, but I can't add the music database... I was doing something like that in mpd from rephttp://wklej.org/id/2f84a7abd5o
[13:45] <Da_Putzler> didnt work am afraid...  saying to try apt-get -f install again
[13:45] <Yonie> hi, can anyone tell me why when i type "sudo echo "blacklist cdc-acm" >> /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist" in the terminal i get the error: "bash: /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist: Permission denied" ?
[13:45] <karel> th0r: there's a gparted livecd: http://gparted.sourceforge.net/livecd.php --> it's a lot faster then ubuntu ;)
[13:46] <Tyczek> and sudo /etc/init.d/mpd start is not working
[13:46] <th0r> karel no problem....however many cd's you want to create
[13:46] <karel> th0r: ok, what do I do in gparted?
[13:46] <bod_> Da_Putzler, what happens when you do    sudo apt-get purge gimp      ?
[13:46] <h6mi1007> oskude: i dont know, i just know terminal is not loadings, it acts like it wants to though and that just started after i installed new drivers for nvidia, my second day :D
[13:46] <astro76> Yonie: because the sudo doesn't go past the redirect, do this: sudo sh -c 'echo "blacklist cdc-acm" >> /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist'
[13:46] <marion> nemilar: What do I need to add to the file?
[13:47] <nemilar> marion: it follows the form of [ip address]  [name]
[13:47] <Da_Putzler> E: Unmet dependencies. Try 'apt-get -f install' with no package
[13:47] <th0r> karel see if you can find the windows partition...see if gparted can even read the partition table. If the windows partition no longer exists there isn't much you are going to be able to do but reinstall from scratch
[13:47] <oskude> h6mi1007, so what do you see on the screen before the computer stops doing "anything" ?
[13:47] <Yonie> astro76, ok, what does the sh -c ' do?
[13:47] <bod_> Da_Putzler, and what is the output if you do what it tells you to?
[13:47] <cwillu> how do you run update-manager in console mode?
[13:47] <th0r> karel I personally use fdisk for my partition work...don't trust gparted, but fdisk is command line
[13:47] <nemilar> marion: so if you want to call it "penguin" and it's ip address is <IP_ADDRESS>, you would add "<IP_ADDRESS>    penguin"
[13:47] <DRebellion> cwillu: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[13:47] <astro76> Yonie: runs the command between the '' with that shell, which is run with sudo
[13:48] <h6mi1007> oskude: well i click terminal, and at the bottom on the bar i see the terminal tab but nothing loads
[13:48] <nemilar> marion: then, from that machine only, you should be able to ssh to penguin
[13:48] <karel> th0r: gparted sees my ntfs partition and sees boot flags
[13:48] <cwillu> DRebellion, sorry, I meant for distribution upgrade
[13:48] <Da_Putzler> it's asking to remove all of gime and ubuntu-desltop also
[13:48] <DRebellion> cwillu: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[13:48] <cwillu> DRebellion, I know you can run the upgrade tool, I just can't remember how to get it
[13:48] <Yonie> astro76, Ohhh i see, thanks, i understand, im guessing is previous versions it did, i got that command from a tut
[13:48] <bod_> Da_Putzler, ok dont do that,.,. what happens if you do      sudo apt-get reinstall gimp   ?
[13:48] <oskude> h6mi1007, ah ok, i got you wrong... so X works but Terminal not ? what ubuntu are you using ?
[13:48] <cwillu> DRebellion, dist-upgrade is a misnomer :p
[13:48] <th0r> karel then windows should be able to see it. If you had not deleted ubuntu first then you could have reinstalled from the backup grub makes, but that is gone now so the only option you have is the windows install cd.
[13:48] <jrib> DRebellion: please don't recommend that
[13:49] <h6mi1007> 7.10
[13:49] <DRebellion> jrib: he asked for it
[13:49] <jrib> !upgrade > cwillu (read the private message from ubotu)
[13:49] <cwillu> DRebellion, no, I didn't :p
[13:49] <astro76> Yonie: that command will not work with sudo without either the shell -c trick, or with tee, both these solutions are outlined on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo ;)
[13:49] <oskude> h6mi1007, are you using somtehing experimental like compiz ?
[13:49] <h6mi1007> no but i do see it when i search for the problem
[13:49] <jrib> cwillu: the server instruction should be what you want on that wiki page
[13:49] <cwillu> DRebellion, wanted the fiesty->gutsy upgrade tool command, aka what upgrade-manager offers to do when it detects a new release
[13:49] <Da_Putzler> ndoesnt work
[13:50] <Yonie> astro76, Ill go check that out, thanks :)
[13:50] <cwillu> jrib, sweet, couldn't find that page for some reason
[13:50] <h6mi1007> i just downloaded restricted drivers for nvidia and installed them, that was the last major thing i did...
[13:50] <karel> th0r: could the fact that I have a sata hd have anything to do with it?
[13:50] <jrib> cwillu: well if you meant not to run it with a gui, it's the server instructions.  If you meant what are the options for the command, that's there too
[13:50] <bod_> Da_Putzler, the last thing i would try is to do everything through synaptic, but after that im not sure,.,. sorry i cant help more
[13:50] <th0r> karel not that I know of
[13:50] <oskude> h6mi1007, from the ubuntu repos ?
[13:50] <Da_Putzler> thx anyhow...
[13:51] <h6mi1007> um i don't remember, i think it had something to do with synapmanager
[13:51] <cwillu> jrib, yep, that's what I'm looking for;  couldn't find it in google;
[13:51] <babo> does this text show up in bold to anyone else ?
[13:51] <cwillu> nope
[13:51] <DRebellion> babo: nope
[13:51] <mark_0> do any of you guys here use ubuntu as your main desktop ?
[13:51] <oskude> h6mi1007, did you reboot after installing the drivers ?
[13:51] <bod_> np
[13:51] <jrib> cwillu: you are upgrading from what version?
[13:51] <nemilar> but this text probably does
[13:51] <Da_Putzler> mark_ I do
[13:51] <h6mi1007> yep
[13:51] <babo> DRebellion, just normal weight text ?
[13:51] <kirved> How i can use software without install on live cd, example mplayer where i can download binary and then i unpack it and launc it by dropping video file to bin file and then mplayer launches. In windows i have only one mplayer.exe and i can drop files to exe.
[13:51] <VvWolverinevV> hi, i left an erroneous comment on a launchpad bug, how do i delete it?
[13:51] <cwillu> jrib, 7.04 on 15 machines
[13:51] <oskude> h6mi1007, hmm, all other programs work ? just Terminal doesnt ?
[13:51] <jrib> mark_0: many do, but please do not ask survey questions here.  Use #ubuntu-offtopic for that.  Thanks
[13:51] <DRebellion> babo: this is normal, *this* *is* *bold*
[13:51] <h6mi1007> yep
[13:52] <nemilar> yay colors!
[13:52] <mark_0> Da_Putzler:does it have everthing that windows offers in terms of features and available of programs
[13:52] <Da_Putzler> mark_ to me, YES, that and much more
[13:52] <cwillu> jrib, think I should go for hardy? :p
[13:52] <giancarlo> SALUTE ATUTTI
[13:52] <marion> nemilar: Thanks for your help. I have to go for now. Good bye.
[13:52] <jrib> cwillu: only if you like to fix things :)
[13:52] <Da_Putzler> mark_ sometimes it's an easy switch, other times you may have to look for a specific program/driver
[13:53] <nemilar> marion: np, gl
[13:53] <h6mi1007> oskude, before the drivers i did goto terminal and type some cmds to get my ntfs drive to read...
[13:53] <chemist`> hey...what's the command to run the editor to change the port for bittorrent in ubuntu 7.04 feisty ? alt+f2 and then? help please
[13:53] <jrib> chemist`: gconf-editor
[13:53] <chemist`> thanks man
[13:53] <cwillu> jrib, running it on my main, but I'm not gonna think about upgrading to that in production for at least another 4 months :p
[13:53] <Da_Putzler> is their a way to forcibly remove a package without it taking Ubuntu-Desktop with it ???
[13:53] <nemilar> I am officially idling now.   Goodbye!
[13:53] <Arelis> Guys, after i've tried out many, many linux distro's, i've finally come to a conclusion: Something is wrong with this PC. nearly EVERY linux distro is as unstable as heck. Can anybody help me find out why?
[13:53] <jrib> !ubuntu-desktop | Da_Putzler
[13:53] <h6mi1007> should i just reformat? that would probably save a lot of time lol
[13:53] <ubotu> Da_Putzler: k/ed/x/ubuntu-desktop is a metapackage. It depends upon other packages and brings them in; you can safely remove it, but it is recommended that you re-install it when upgrading.
[13:54] <mark_0> Da_Putzler:i want to make the switch because i do alot of coding work using python,perl and php but wondering if the codecs for  wma and wmv are available for it so i can watch an ocassional movie
[13:54] <cwillu> Da_Putzler, not really, but it's not a big deal as long as you reinstall it before doing a release upgrade
[13:54] <oskude> h6mi1007, one way would be to go to CTRL+ALT+F1, login, and read some log files, but which, i dont know...
[13:54] <oskude> h6mi1007, you can come back to X with CTRL+ALT+F7
[13:54] <jrib> mark_0: yes, you can still watch all your movies
[13:54] <Da_Putzler> mark_0 you CAN download a package containing all of th ewindows codecs... yeh
[13:54] <h6mi1007> ok thanx
[13:54] <mark_0> Da_Putzler:sweet
[13:54] <ompaul> Arelis, ram is 99% of all problems, to work out what is really wrong you will need good hardware also
[13:55] <mark_0> Da_Putzler:do you have a link to it ?
[13:55] <ompaul> Arelis, get a new box if you suspect the box ;-)
[13:55] <cwillu> Arelis, power issues are a big possibility as well
[13:55] <Arelis> ompaul, I'm sorry, but i don't have the money for a new PC. And i did a memtest about a month ago.
[13:55] <oskude> h6mi1007, you could try "sudo dpkg-reconfigure gnome-terminal" in the text console... but dunno if helps, just a long shot
[13:55] <h6mi1007> oskude: how can i change my password?
[13:55] <oskude> h6mi1007, passwd
[13:55] <ompaul> Arelis, memtest does not stress a system like an install
[13:55] <cwillu> Arelis, run the memcheck from the live cd overnight, and see if you can buy or borrow a ups for a few days (that'll alleviate power supply issues sometimes)
[13:56] <brobostigon> good afternoon everyone
[13:57] <mark_0> good afternoon brobostigon
[13:57] <cwillu> evening, night, morning, whichever :p
[13:57] <cwillu> can't remember any more
[13:57] <h6mi1007> ok thx, so type that in the cmd prompt?
[13:57] <Yonie> how do I chech which serial device my usb phone is connected?
[13:57] <h6mi1007> the pw thing
[13:57] <Yonie> it could be ttyUSB0 or ttyUSB1
[13:57] <oskude> h6mi1007, yup
[13:57] <h6mi1007> k
[13:58] <cwillu> Yonie, I usually just run udevmonitor, but there's probably a better way
[13:58] <oskude> h6mi1007, it asks your current password and then for a new
[13:58] <h6mi1007> right.
[13:58] <Yonie> cwillu, how do i run it? just sudo udevmonitor?
[13:58] <jrib> mark_0: the guide at help.ubuntu.com is a nice intro to ubuntu, including how to watch all your movies and such
[13:58] <h6mi1007> does the screenshot key work in there?
[13:59] <Liquid> *cry*
[13:59] <cwillu> Yonie, yep, and replug the device
[13:59] <cwillu> Yonie, it'll spit out a lot of text, just look for something /dev/ish
[13:59] <orochi_> Hello :> What would be the safest/most resource-efficient means of providing virtual servers via Ubuntu? I'm running 7.10, just checking through the different options...qemu seems like it'd be overkill
[13:59] <Liquid> Always when i press "install ubuntu" only a blackscreen appears :(
[13:59] <Liquid> why?
[14:00] <jrib> Liquid: try the alternate cd and file a bug against the desktop cd
[14:00] <oskude> h6mi1007, no, but you can write the standard output of commands to a file with >
[14:00] <oskude> h6mi1007, like: ls . > list_of_files.txt
[14:00] <Liquid> file a bug against the desktop cd? oO
[14:00] <Liquid> i dont get it
[14:01] <jrib> Liquid: then do what I said before "and" :)
[14:01] <jpatrick> !bug > Liquid
[14:01] <cecko> hi all, can I start my already installed windows xp in qemu or virtualbox?
[14:01] <Yonie> cwillu, i got loads of text... but i dont c anything like /dev
[14:01] <jrib> !alternate | Liquid
[14:01] <ubotu> Liquid: The Alternate CD is a classical text-mode installation CD. It supports a wider range of hardware than the !LiveCD.  It can also be used as an upgrade CD. - See also !minimal
[14:01] <jrib> cecko: no
[14:01] <Liquid> aha
[14:01] <cecko> jrib, why so?
[14:01] <Liquid> okay but its without a gui?
[14:01] <oskude> h6mi1007, and if you want to also write the error output of commands: ls . &> files_and_if_any_errors.txt
[14:02] <jrib> cecko: because a programmer has not written that functionality?
[14:02] <oskude> h6mi1007, notice the added & in >
[14:02] <Yonie> cwillu, i get /devices but nothing like ttyUSB or sumthing like that
[14:02] <Liquid> but i need a gui for my ubuntu.. or is only the install-process without a gui?
[14:02] <jrib> cecko: I'm sure about virtual box in any case
[14:02] <tz34781> Liquid: only the install process
[14:02] <oskude> h6mi1007, and theres also a program called "script" that can record whole sessions... and propably other tools
[14:02] <cwillu> Yonie, must be a different program handling the device then, hal maybe?
[14:02] <cwillu> dunno, sorry
[14:02] <brobostigon> liquid: only the installation is without qui,its installs axactly the same as the live cd
[14:02] <Liquid> okay thx
[14:03] <Liquid> i will try it
[14:03] <cecko> jrib, I found somewhere one can do it in vmware
[14:03] <jrib> cecko: maybe
[14:03] <kodge> Is there a device manager type thing I can use to check the graphics card in my PC?
[14:03] <doktoreas> how can i see boot output instead of framebuffer?
[14:03] <kodge> And other hardware
[14:03] <DRebellion> kodge: sudo lshw
[14:03] <KEBA> hello, i want to teach my really terminal(this one you open with contrl and alt and 1...) all letters of the germen alphabetical(like ae or oe)
[14:03] <kodge> Thanks
[14:04] <cecko> jrib, so it should not be dangerous for the windows itself, right.
[14:04] <jrib> cecko: there's a #vbox channel for virtualbox, they probably know more than me.  There are similar channels for the other virtualization solutions as well
[14:04] <cecko> jrib, thanks
[14:05] <h6mi1007> oskude: says g-nome not installed
[14:05] <h6mi1007> lol
[14:05] <Yonie> cwillu, lol, I have no clue, im really new to this stuff
[14:05] <pras> i am getting error for initialization of devicei.e #FxReset -p 0   biometrika fx2000 as FXOEM Open Channel: error 116
[14:05] <Yonie> can anyone help me find where my USB phone is connected?
[14:05] <oskude> h6mi1007, youre using ubuntu ? not xubuntu, kubuntu etc ?
[14:05] <brobostigon> yonie: dmesg and lsusb will telll you
[14:05] <h6mi1007> yep
[14:05] <h6mi1007> terminal was working before...
[14:06] <oskude> h6mi1007, and what exactly is not installed ?
[14:06] <innertruth> i often hear the word "freedom" together with linux, but isnt it is same as windows? i use internet and irc just like before. how exactly i'm free?
[14:06] <h6mi1007> oskude: package g-nome is not installed
[14:06] <DRebellion> !foss | innertruth
[14:06] <ubotu> innertruth: freedom is important. Ubuntu is as free as we can make it, which means mostly free software. See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.html and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/licensing
[14:06] <oskude> h6mi1007, what command says that ?
[14:06] <Liquid> :(.. now i have to wait one hour :(
[14:07] <Liquid> hmm is ubuntu 64bit good? or should i download ubuntu 32bit?
[14:07] <oskude> innertruth, you have the freedom to modify and distribute the linux kernel...
[14:07] <h6mi1007> oskude: uhh, i duno, i just typed what you asked me to type "sudo spkg-reconfigure g-nome-terminal"
[14:07] <h6mi1007> dpkg*
[14:08] <oskude> h6mi1007, please read carefully its, gnome-terminal
[14:08] <cwillu> innertruth, which means you have the freedom to use stuff that other people have modified and distributed
[14:08] <orochi_> oskude: Not to mention that Linux doesn't have a crippled TCP/IP stack :>
[14:08] <h6mi1007> brb
[14:08] <cwillu> lol
[14:08] <SpaceBass> morning
[14:09] <SpaceBass> I've got a fresh install and need to compile the driver for my network card... how can I install build-essential without a network connection?
[14:09] <ackvdor> www.space-coders.net port 6667
[14:09] <SpaceBass> seems silly that its not on the install CD
[14:09] <LjL> !offline | SpaceBass
[14:09] <ubotu> SpaceBass: If you need to download Ubuntu packages using another machine or OS, check the desired packages in Synaptic and select File > Generate package download script. Alternatively, try http://apt.byethost14.com/
[14:09] <jrib> SpaceBass: build-essential is on the cd
[14:10] <SpaceBass> using server edition ... so it will be via cli
[14:10] <SpaceBass> jrib, really? I cannot find it to save my life
[14:10] <redmonkey> !flash
[14:10] <ubotu> To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash (for !Dapper and !Edgy, a recent version is available in !backports) - See also !Restricted and !Gnash - The Flash package is currently BROKEN, see « /msg ubotu FlashIssues »
[14:10] <aidy> hi
[14:10] <jpatrick> !hi | aidy
[14:10] <ubotu> aidy: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[14:10] <aidy> how come there's no qt/kde client for MPD in ubuntu
[14:10] <h6mi1007> oskude: i tried that, it accepted it but terminal still won't completely load, nothing different happends
[14:10] <jpatrick> aidy: MPD?
[14:10] <LjL> SpaceBass: perhaps you don't have the CD repository enabled, try « sudo apt-cdrom add » with the CD in the drive...
[14:10] <DRebellion> SpaceBass: have you enabled the cd repo in system -> administration -> software sources ??
[14:10] <vonSmallhausen> What is the defult password for root?
[14:10] <Yonie> brobostigon, i tried both those commands but it doesnt tell me if its ttyUSB1 or ttyusb0
[14:10] <LjL> !root > vonSmallhausen    (vonSmallhausen, see the private message from Ubotu) there is none
[14:10] <oskude> h6mi1007, hmm, if i knew what log file to read, we would know why it wont load...
[14:11] <h6mi1007> i an check
[14:11] <pras> i am getting error for initialization of devicei.e #FxReset -p 0   biometrika fx2000 as FXOEM Open Channel: error 116
[14:11] <h6mi1007> oskude: how can i search for log files?
[14:11] <oskude> h6mi1007, most are in /var/log
[14:11] <SpaceBass> LjL I'm looking at /etc/apt/sources and it appears to be there, but I'll try that command, thanks
[14:11] <oskude> h6mi1007, i assume /var/log/syslog would be what we need
[14:12] <Yonie> if i need to create a new file in /ect how do i become root? do i have to do it through terminal?
[14:12] <DRebellion> Yonie: sudo touch /etc/<file>
[14:12] <sigma> can i install the ubuntu wireless network manager in kubuntu? if so what package must I install?
[14:12] <bulmer> Yonie for one, why do you need to create the file in /etc ?
[14:12] <h6mi1007> oskude: ok
[14:12] <aidy> jpatrick: yes?
[14:12] <SpaceBass> LjL that worked- thanks!
[14:13] <Yonie> bulmer, i am doing a tut for my usb phone, it says i need to create a file in /ect/ppp/peers/
[14:13] <oskude> sigma, you can install all packages in ubuntu as in kubuntu, and other way round... but dunno how the packages is called that you search, sorry
[14:13] <jpatrick> aidy: what is MPD?
[14:13] <Tyczek> how to run mpd compiled from source, sudo /etc/init.d/mpd start is not working
[14:13] <aidy> jpatrick: music player daemon
[14:13] <Wi1d> jpatrick: Music Player Dameon.
[14:13] <jpatrick> aidy: ah, no idea then :) maybe #kubuntu ?
[14:13] <bod_> how do i run a program from terminal that doesnt die when i close the terminal?
[14:13] <bulmer> Yonie, okay, then you can sudo mkdir -p /etc/ppp/peers   note: it is etc not ect
[14:13] <Wi1d> Pretty sweet and then coupled w/ Jinzora makes it awesome.
[14:14] <DRebellion> bod_: try enclosing the command in ()
[14:14] <Yonie> bulmer, iv made that mistake so many times :P
[14:14] <redmonkey> !flash
[14:14] <ubotu> To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash (for !Dapper and !Edgy, a recent version is available in !backports) - See also !Restricted and !Gnash - The Flash package is currently BROKEN, see « /msg ubotu FlashIssues »
[14:14] <oskude> bod_, command &
[14:14] <LjL> bod_: man nohup
[14:14] <bod_> DRebellion, (amarok)    ?
[14:14] <DRebellion> bod_: just a long shot
[14:14] <Yonie> bulmer, what does mkdir -p do?
[14:14] <LjL> oskude, & just runs it in the background, but it dies anyway when you close the terminal
[14:14] <bod_> LjL, il have a look ta
[14:14] <bulmer> bod_-> create them  like so screen; command &   and you can log out
[14:15] <oskude> LjL, ah yeah. forgot that sorry bod_
[14:15] <bulmer> Yonie with the correct permissions
[14:15] <bod_> oskude,  that only makes the program run in the background,. closing terminal still kills the program       bulmer
[14:15] <bulmer> bod_-> not with screen shell
[14:16] <LjL> but then with screen the "&" is redundant ;)
[14:16] <bod_> bulmer, il test,. 1 sec
[14:16] <bulmer> okay its redundant for the & :)
[14:16] <bod_> bulmer, what do you mean by screen shell/
[14:16] <bod_> ?
[14:16] <LjL> !screen | bod_
[14:16] <ubotu> bod_: screen is a terminal multiplexer. See http://www.kuro5hin.org/story/2004/3/9/16838/14935 and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GNU_Screen
[14:16] <bullgard4> Why does 'smbclient -L localhost -U%' print different values for domain, server and master compared with 'smbclient -L Amilo7600'? (http://ubuntuusers.de/paste/32673)
[14:17] <bod_> LjL, bulmer, oskude, DRebellion, cheers guys
[14:17] <oskude> h6mi1007, i gotta go do something, be back in 15~30 mins
[14:17] <LjL> bod_: if you just want the command to run and do not care about the output, just use nohup. if you want to be able to "reattach" to a terminal (so that you can run even an interactive program in there, then close the terminal, then find your program back as you left it), use screen.
[14:17] <h6mi1007> ok
[14:17] <m1r> hello
[14:17] <Daniil0> http://world3.monstersgame.fr/?ac=vid&vid=108014140
[14:17] <Yonie> bulmer, sorry wait, i make a mistake, i need to edit the file provider in /etc/ppp/peers/
[14:18] <bod_> LjL, thhat means nothing because i dont no what nohup is,.,. im reading atm though,.,.lol,.,. cheers m8
[14:18]  * zoom is away: Occupé
[14:18] <LjL> bod_: it's exactly what you asked.
[14:18] <LjL> !away > zoom    (zoom, see the private message from Ubotu)
[14:18] <bod_> LjL, thanks alot,.,.
[14:19] <bulmer> Yonie when you are folllowing tutorials, you really must take care of spellings and punctuations if any..
[14:19] <SpaceBass> found build-essential on the CD... what about the kernel source? Do I have to download it seperatly?
[14:20] <Yonie> bulmer, yeah, but i copy paste most of the time... im know im careless with that stuff
[14:20] <cwillu> anybody know a way to force an oversized app to scale down on the screen via compiz, but still be clickable, etc?
[14:21] <bulmer> Yonie so take some care, you are not grade school kid anymore, arent you?  I have a kid like that, thats why my attitude..hehe
[14:21] <mh512> hello ppl
[14:21] <bod_> how would i use whoami to input an entry into a $username variable?
[14:21] <wg12345> hellp pple
[14:21] <wg12345> hi mh512
[14:22] <Yonie> bulmer, lol
[14:23] <incorrect> where can i put my own custom module aliases?
[14:23] <astro76> bod_: username=$(whoami)
[14:24] <bod_> astro76, with the brackets?
[14:24] <bulmer> incorrect I assume anywhere? then create a symlink to /lib/modules/`uname -r` ?
[14:24] <bulmer> for it
[14:24] <richard_> hi
[14:24] <astro76> bod_: yes the $() performans the command in the brackets and replaces with the result
[14:25] <richard_> i have a challenge with ubuntu 7.10
[14:25] <bod_> astro76, cheers dude
[14:25] <richard_> i reinstall ubuntu 7.04 and it did the automatic upgrade to 7.10
[14:25] <SpaceBass> arrruggg these drivers are going to drive me crazy
[14:26] <stefano_> is anyone running 8.04?
[14:26] <marije> ciao
[14:26] <richard_> then when i shut down the pc, it reboot on his own
[14:26] <marije> !list
[14:26] <incorrect> stefano_, no because its not out yet
[14:26] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[14:26] <richard_> anyboby can help please
[14:26] <stefano_> incorrect, fourth alpha just came out the other day
[14:26] <astro76> stefano_: #ubuntu+1
[14:27] <stefano_> thanks astro76
[14:27] <jpatrick> !haryd > stefano_
[14:27] <jpatrick> arg
[14:27] <jpatrick> !hardy > stefano_
[14:27] <jpatrick> :)
[14:27] <incorrect> stefano_, yes alpha
[14:27] <richard_> hello anyone help please
[14:28] <stefano_> richard_, just tell us your problem
[14:28] <richard_>  i reinstall ubuntu 7.04 and it did the automatic upgrade to 7.10
[14:28] <richard_>  then when i shut down the pc, it reboot on his own
[14:28] <BERTIN>  helo je  dsl je ne parle pas anglai
[14:28] <stefano_> thanks jpatrick and incorrect  i know what an alpha is :-) just wanted to know if anybody is running it atm.
[14:28] <astro76> !fr | BERTIN
[14:28] <ubotu> BERTIN: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[14:29] <richard_> in my computer, it show two hard drive,
[14:29] <BERTIN>  ok merci
[14:29] <stefano_> richard_, sounds like a hardware problem
[14:29] <richard_> it was only one before
[14:29] <incorrect> stefano_, yes everyone is running it,
[14:29] <richard_> no i have the screen shoot of my computer
[14:29] <incorrect> hell i turned all my production systems over to it last night
[14:29] <richard_> how can i send it  to you
[14:29] <incorrect> not a single problem i didn't expect
[14:30] <fuh-zz> okay I need help, should I PM someone?
[14:30] <erawfish> !ask | fuh-zz
[14:30] <ubotu> fuh-zz: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[14:30] <jpatrick> !ask | fuh-zz
[14:30] <fuh-zz> okay well
[14:30] <Yonie> bulmer, how do i find where my usbphone is, it should be ttyusb1 or ttyusb0, lsusb doesnt tell me, its tells me usb device 2
[14:30] <incorrect> i also covered them in liquid nitrogen and over clocked them
[14:30] <bod_> hey guys,. is this a normal out put for running amarok from terminal in gnome? :http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/54471/
[14:30] <fuh-zz> hehe
[14:30] <richard_> stephano
[14:30] <fuh-zz> Right now I'm using an Ubuntu 7.10 live cd
[14:31] <fuh-zz> working perfectly fine
[14:31] <astro76> !enter | fuh-zz
[14:31] <ubotu> fuh-zz: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[14:31] <doktoreas> wich is the script that makes ubuntu autologin?
[14:31] <doktoreas> in the livecd
[14:31] <erawfish> doktoreas: it's a gdm setting
[14:31] <stefano_> doktoreas, there is no script for that, you can set it up in the settings dialog for your login manager
[14:31] <Yatziv> how is the live cd? stable?
[14:31] <doktoreas> i am doing all from chroot
[14:31] <doktoreas> so no gui :(
[14:31] <DRebellion> Yatziv: yes
[14:31] <erawfish> Yatziv: it's supposed to be
[14:32] <erawfish> doktoreas: you can have a gui
[14:32] <obst> Yatziv: and normaly it is :)
[14:32] <stefano_> doktoreas, you want to have an automatic login in the terminal then?
[14:32] <Yatziv> I haven't tried it but i was thinking of making the switch/leap
[14:32] <doktoreas> stefano_, nope just removing it
[14:32] <doktoreas> erawfish, i'll check it out
[14:32] <Bulb> how can I remove a modules alias?
[14:33] <richard_> hello stefano
[14:33] <stefano_> doktoreas, that should not be the case, there is no such thing as autologin in the command line
[14:33] <stefano_> hello richard
[14:33] <doktoreas> stefano_, ubuntu will log in with ubuntu user as livecd reach gdm
[14:33] <stefano_> doktoreas, what exactly do you want to do?
[14:33] <richard_> is it normal to have a hard drive showing and the file system drive in my computer
[14:34] <erawfish> doktoreas: gdm is not "terminal"
[14:34] <doktoreas> remove that feature
[14:34] <erawfish> or rather, console
[14:34] <doktoreas> removing that feature from the livecd
[14:34] <stefano_> richard_, if i understand you correctly, yes that's normal
[14:34] <richard_> and can i install the hardy-desktop 8.04
[14:34] <doktoreas> i am customizing the ubuntu livecd
[14:34] <fuh-zz> My main installation, Ubuntu Studio (7.10) was working perfectly fine yesterday and then I restarted after a few hours (I went out to dinner) because firefox and pidgin closed mysteriously.  The night before I had the same problem I do now.  Ubuntu Studio will get to the loading screen and will start to load (very, very slowly).  When it gets about 3/4 way through loading it goes into "BusyBox v1.1.3".  What is wrong?
[14:35] <richard_> yes but the first time i install 7.04 it did not have that, are you sure
[14:35] <stefano_> doktoreas, well, short answer: it's not possible
[14:35] <fuh-zz> Note:  It goes off an on when it works, and it's not a heat issue.
[14:35] <doktoreas> stefano_, long one :D?
[14:35] <marco> ciao
[14:35] <doktoreas> or at least change the user to another one
[14:35] <erawfish> fuh-zz: there have been errors before busybox shows up
[14:35] <Yonie> how do i find where my usbphone is, it should be ttyusb1 or ttyusb0, lsusb doesnt tell me, its tells me usb device 2
[14:35] <stefano_> richard_, seems normal. you have the device on the one hand, and on the other hand you have the file system (which is an instance of the device mounted so to speak)
[14:35] <richard_> does the hard drive need to be mounted
[14:35] <doktoreas> in the chroot i have created a new user
[14:36] <stefano_> doktoreas, why do you want to do that anyways? if you restart your computer all your changes are gone
[14:36] <doktoreas> stefano_, don't understand sorry
[14:36] <fuh-zz> erawfish, could you be more specific?  How do I find out what the errors ar?
[14:36] <doktoreas> i am working in a chroot env to build a new iso
[14:36] <fuh-zz> are*
[14:36] <stefano_> doktoreas, there is a tool to build your own iso, but i forgot the name
[14:37] <Yatziv> is the live cd included in the main download?
[14:37] <bulmer> remastersys
[14:37] <erawfish> by looking at the error messages...
[14:37] <ConstyXIV> Yatziv: it is the main download
[14:37] <DRebellion> Yatziv: to install, download the livecd image, burn to disk, boot off it, try it out, and install.
[14:37] <richard_> stefano i am about to install the hardy-desktop 8.04, is this the good thing to do#
[14:37] <bulmer> i think that was the name
[14:37] <astro76> Yatziv: the desktop install cd is the livecd
[14:37] <stefano_> Yatziv, the "normal" ubuntu cd is a live cd, there is another version without the live cd
[14:37] <erawfish> richard_: it's not good
[14:37] <fuh-zz> there are no error messages
[14:37] <erawfish> richard_: it's also OT here
[14:37] <richard_> hmmm???
[14:38] <stefano_> richard_, no
[14:38] <ConstyXIV> is there any way to flip your display 90 degrees?
[14:38] <erawfish> fuh-zz: you are wrong. there would be no busybox when there were no error messages
[14:38] <richard_> why
[14:38] <astro76> richard_: if you have to ask, probably not
[14:38] <astro76> ;)
[14:38] <Yatziv> cool, Thanks!
[14:38] <bloony> I got a pcmcia sound card in my computer.. it was installed, but I've been traveling so I had it disconnected.. but now when I put it back it seems like ubuntu cant fint it.. when I open the alsa mixer the internal card is listed there..
[14:38] <stefano_> richard_, if you have no experience with software development and linux troubleshooting you should not do that
[14:38] <astro76> richard_: plus no support in here for 8.04
[14:38] <fuh-zz> erawfish, how do i see these error messages, then?  All i see is a loading screen
[14:38] <richard_> ok thank you for the advice
[14:38] <astro76> until april of course
[14:38] <richard_> as i am a complete novice i will not do that
[14:38] <erawfish> fuh-zz: remove the "silent" option in in your menu.lst
[14:39] <mavi-> doktoreas: just edit out the autologin from gdm.conf
[14:39] <erawfish> oops. it's quiet I guess, not silent
[14:39] <fuh-zz> Okay, well, I'm a noob, where can I find this 'menu.lst'?
[14:39] <DRebellion> fuh-zz: /boot/grub/menu.lst
[14:39] <ConstyXIV> fuh-zz: /boot/grub/menu.lst
[14:39] <fuh-zz> thank you
[14:40] <richard_> thank you for the advice have a nice day
[14:40] <fuh-zz> oh boy, my ubuntu live cd doesn't see my hard drive
[14:41] <DRebellion> fuh-zz: you probably have to mount it
[14:41] <fuh-zz> i know what it means to mount it, but how may i go about doing that?
[14:42] <stefano_> fuh-zz, http://www.howtoforge.com/ubuntu-linux-mint-livecd-with-remastersys this may help you
[14:42] <fuh-zz> thanks, stefano
[14:42] <NiceCrawl> Hello
[14:42] <DRebellion> fuh-zz: 1) find the device in /dev (look at /dev/sd<letter><number> 2) sudo mount /dev/<drive> <mountpoint>
[14:42] <bod_> how do i tar.gz   a file from the terminal?
[14:42] <Ttech> `/part
[14:42] <DRebellion> bod_: tar czf
[14:42] <fuh-zz> Thanks, DRebellion
[14:43] <stefano_> bod_, tar czf
[14:43] <stefano_> oh
[14:43] <bod_> DRebellion, stefano_, what does the czf  do?
[14:43] <NiceCrawl> Does anyone can tell me if it possible to install ubunto on a vista notebook?
[14:43] <bulmer> bod_-> creation? or decompression?
[14:43] <bod_> bulmer, creation
[14:43] <DRebellion> bod_: makes a .tar.gz
[14:43] <stefano_> bod_, just type "man tar" in your terminal, exolaines just about anything
[14:44] <bod_> DRebellion, but whats the importance of putting czf there?
[14:44] <bod_> stefano_, ok will do ty
[14:44] <stefano_> sorry shouldnt that be xfvz?
[14:44] <Siph0n> hey..... i just bought an svideo cable, and want to watch things from my computer on my tv.... is there a function key on ubuntu that i need to hit to do so?
[14:44] <bulmer> no he said creation so it c option
[14:44] <stefano_> well just look it up on the manpage
[14:44] <Yonie> how do i unblack list something i blacklisted?
[14:44] <DRebellion> bod_: those are three letters and three options telling tar what to do
[14:44] <bod_> ok ty
[14:45] <stefano_> Yonie, take a look at this file  /etc/blacklist
[14:45] <DRebellion> bod_: c = creation, z = gzip, f = work from file
[14:45] <kane77> can I check ntfs for errors from ubuntu?
[14:45] <larson9999> linux rocks!
[14:45] <bod_> DRebellion, what does , work from file (f) mean?
[14:46] <stefano_> larson9999, it does :-)
[14:46] <bod_> larson9999, true
[14:46] <bod_> ;)
[14:46] <DRebellion> bod_: tar = tape archive (eg back when we had big magnetic tape instead of modern hdds
[14:46] <oskude> h6mi1007, back
[14:46] <bod_> DRebellion, ok,.,. thanks for the info,,.cheers
[14:46] <stefano_> i wish someone would give <IP_ADDRESS>$ to canonical
[14:47] <h6mi1007> oskude: welcome back
[14:47] <fuh-zz> Okay, so I've mounted the hard drive and found the file, but now I can't get proper permissions to save it.
[14:47] <DRebellion> fuh-zz: prefix with sudo
[14:47] <stefano_> !root
[14:47] <stefano_> !sudo
[14:47] <ubotu> Do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth... there is no root password. Then you will see that it is 'sudo' that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[14:47] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for more information.
[14:48] <Freddy_> I want my MTV...
[14:48] <bod_> DRebellion, slight problem :tar: /home/bod/Desktop/blash: Cannot open: Is a directory
[14:49] <taser> Does anyone have experience connecting to an NSLU2->FAT HD from Ubuntu?
[14:49] <Yonie> there is no file called blacklist in /ect
[14:49] <Yonie> */etc
[14:49] <fuh-zz> Okay be right back, wish me luck!  Thanks for all of your help!
[14:49] <bod_> Yonie, try     locate blacklist            to find the file
[14:49] <astro76> Yonie: locate blacklist | grep etc
[14:50] <h6mi1007> oskude: you think i can try the cd and fix it from there?
[14:50] <DRebellion> bod_: tar czf foo.tar bar/
[14:50] <Yonie> oh ok found it
[14:50] <Yonie> thanks guys
[14:50] <h6mi1007> oskude, the install probably took 30 min, i'm about ready to just reformat, reinstall hehe.
[14:50] <Epicenter> Hello :) I am trying to put Ubuntu (Xubuntu to be specific) on a laptop with no CDROM drive. It can ONLY boot the HDD, no FDD or USB Devices. I am trying to install it from another machine, with the HDD attached to a USB adapter. But it seems to want to detect all hardware from the installing machine.
[14:50] <oskude> h6mi1007, did you try reading in /var/log/syslog or /var/log/dmesg after you tried to start gnome-terminal ?
[14:50] <Epicenter> Is there a way to get it to detect the hardware of the machine I install it in next?
[14:51] <DRebellion> !install | Epicenter
[14:51] <ubotu> Epicenter: Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues - Don't want to use a CD? Try http://tinyurl.com/3exghs - See also !automate
[14:51] <Epicenter> Or to otherwise get an installer ON the hard disk to install from the proper machine?
[14:51] <bod_> DRebellion, could you explain the bits you've added plz,.,. and is the bar/ the start of my dir location eg bar/home/bod/Desktop/blash        ?
[14:51] <h6mi1007> oskude: no but i will
[14:51] <Yonie> to remove a blacklist i just edit the document and erase the line i dont want? simple as that?
[14:51] <DRebellion> bod_: ok, foo.tar.gz is the output archive, and bar/ is the folder to be archived
[14:51] <sndiaye> www.google.fr
[14:51] <bod_> Yonie,  or comment it ,.yer
[14:52] <sndiaye> www.google.fr
[14:52] <Yonie> bod_, comment would be better thanks :)
[14:52] <Siph0n> i read somewhere that to enable my s-video out on my desktop to my tv, i can use nvidia-settings... is that true? i cant seem to find it in there
[14:52] <oskude> h6mi1007, you can open files with: tail -f /var/log/syslog :to see changes when it happens...
[14:53] <bod_> DRebellion, ok im still a bit confused,.,. could you type the exact command ,. if i want to tar    /home/bod/Desktop/blash /home/bod/Desktop
[14:53] <bod_> Yonie,  no probs
[14:53] <h6mi1007> oskude: ok, i did look in /var/lod/syslog but didn't know what to look for, i'm in /var/log/dmsg atm
[14:53] <sndiaye> you can explain to me
[14:53] <sndiaye> what is this logiciel is used for???
[14:53] <oskude> h6mi1007, i got an idea
[14:53] <Yonie> um... what would this do? rmmod cdc-acm
[14:54] <Epicenter> No ideas? :(
[14:54] <h6mi1007> oskude: shoot
[14:54] <DRebellion> tar czf myfile.tar.gz /home/bod/Desktop/
[14:54] <oskude> h6mi1007, run xterm with ALT+F2 (in X) and then run gnome-terminal from that xterm terminal and see what errors you get
[14:54] <DRebellion> bod_: tar czf myfile.tar.gz /home/bod/Desktop/
[14:55] <h6mi1007> oskude: ok
[14:55] <bod_> DRebellion, so cd to desktop first?
[14:55] <AdamB> I have four drives and want to setup mirroring on them. I've already got one of the drives setup using the "use entire disks in LVM setup" option during the installation, i want one other drive to be an exact mirror of it and the other two drives to be used for snapshots
[14:55] <h6mi1007> oskude: so try to enter "sudo dpkg-reconfigure gnome-terminal"?
[14:55] <oskude> h6mi1007, no no
[14:56] <CokeNCode> hey guys, looking for something to convert an avi file to a vcd
[14:56] <oskude> h6mi1007, run "gnome-terminal" from there
[14:56] <DRebellion> bod_: cd to the directory you want to put the myfile.tar.gz
[14:56] <CokeNCode> burn it into a cd that can be read by my dvd player
[14:56] <h6mi1007> oskude: ok
[14:56] <oskude> h6mi1007, it should then try to run gnome-terminal (like from the menu) but also show errors, if any
[14:56] <Ravi> someone who can support me in installing  django
[14:57] <ompaul> !django
[14:57] <ubotu> django is a high level python web framework that encourages rapid development and clean, pragmatic design. - see http://www.djangoproject.com
[14:57] <h6mi1007> oskude: brb
[14:57] <taser> Does anyone have experience connecting to an NSLU2->FAT HD from Ubuntu?
[14:57] <bod_> DRebellion, ok,.,. now im a bit confused as to how it finds the correct file to tar.gz??? sorry im a bit new to this,.,. i have a file on the desktop that needs to be tar'd and the tar needs to end up on the desktop
[14:57] <cx23> hey can anyone help?
[14:57] <rich__> Whats a good programming text editor with color highlighting
[14:57] <oskude> h6mi1007, i hope youre doing this in X (the gnome desktop) and not in text console...
[14:58] <DRebellion> bod_: oh! ok,   tar czf /home/bod/Desktop/output.tar.gz /home/bod/Desktop/inputfile
[14:58] <DRebellion> rich__: vim
[14:58] <h6mi1007> lol
[14:59] <h6mi1007> oskude: where is x?
[14:59] <rich__> thats what i heard, but i cant get the colour going
[14:59] <astro76> rich__: :syntax on
[14:59] <oskude> h6mi1007, X is the windowing system X.org, what whe use, eg in CTRL+ALT+F7
[14:59] <bod_> DRebellion, so you specify the output directory before the input directory?
[14:59] <rich__> whats the swtich for that:
[14:59] <astro76> rich__: if you want it default you need to use a .vimrc
[15:00] <astro76> rich__: that's a command in vi
[15:00] <oskude> h6mi1007, CTRL+ALT+F1 is one of the text consoles
[15:00] <DRebellion> bod_: you specify the output _file_ before the input directory
[15:00] <h6mi1007> yeah that's where i was , i hit ctrl+alt+f1
[15:00] <h6mi1007> so from here try f7?
[15:00] <bloony> I got a pcmcia sound card in my computer.. it was installed, but I've been traveling so I had it disconnected.. but now when I put it back it seems like ubuntu cant fint it.. when I open the alsa mixer the internal card is listed there..
[15:00] <oskude> h6mi1007, so please press ALT+F2 (in X, CTRL+ALT+F7) and run the command xterm
[15:00] <h6mi1007> ok
[15:00] <patogen> I accidently removed my menu.xml for openbox yesterday, is there some way I can find a list of which software I have installed so I can rebuild my menu?
[15:01] <oskude> h6mi1007, now you get the xterm terminal in your X (gnome desktop)
[15:01] <rich__> esc then type syntax?
[15:01] <astro76> rich__: :syntax on
[15:01] <oskude> h6mi1007, from there, try to run the gnome-terminal and see if you get any errors
[15:01] <rich__> doesnt seem to recognise that command
[15:02] <Godo_> Hi, I need a help to restore my grub after a M$ installation.
[15:02] <astro76> rich__: are you typing the : ?
[15:02] <DRebellion> !grub | Godo_
[15:02] <ubotu> Godo_: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[15:02] <h6mi1007> oskude: so from here i do alt+ctrl+f1 then alt+ctrl+f2? then f7 thing?
[15:02] <icy_> is it possible to install a single package from hardy under gutsy?
[15:02] <Almindor> since when is flash/x64 broken?
[15:02] <rich__> esc : syntax on
[15:03] <jpatrick> Almindor: ages
[15:03] <Almindor> I was happily watching flash a few days ago
[15:03] <astro76> rich__: no space      :syntax on
[15:03] <oskude> h6mi1007, ... no ... just stay in X (gnome desktop, CTRL+ALT+F7) and press ALT+F2, you get the "run application" dialog
[15:03] <Almindor> hardly, I was on youtube 2 days ago, this machine, this OS, this firefox (well. the package one anyhow)
[15:03] <bod_> DRebellion, ok,. cool,. lemme give it a shot,.,. 1 more question,.,. probably a bit harder,. but say i wanted to tar the same file on a daily bases (like a backup) can i tell it to have the same name with a 1 on the end so eg  i make a backup called backup.tar.gz  tomorrow i run the command again,. i want it be called backup1.tar.gz and the day after backup2.tar.gz   but i dont want to change the ommand everytime?
[15:03] <h6mi1007> oh ok
[15:03] <oskude> h6mi1007, sorry, it gets a little confusing with these shortcuts..
[15:03] <DRebellion> bod_: not sure
[15:04] <cwillu> bod_, are you copying that file somewhere?
[15:04] <ibou> hi
[15:04] <stefano_> what is the compiz window type for the toolbars (on the bottom / top of the screen)?
[15:04] <rich__> sorry this command isnt available in this version
[15:04] <bloony> I got a pcmcia sound card in my computer.. it was installed, but I've been traveling so I had it disconnected.. but now when I put it back it seems like ubuntu cant fint it.. when I open the alsa mixer the internal card is listed there..
[15:04] <Godo_> DRebellion: I already did that, but no success. I have 2 hard disks, m$ in the primary and ubuntu in the secondary. I just can etup grub in the second
[15:04] <h6mi1007> yeah i'm confused, uh  for anyone who just installed linux and knows nothing , it's like that.
[15:04] <astro76> rich__: ahhhh, sudo apt-get install vim-full
[15:05] <Godo_> > DRebellion: and in my laptop I don' t have a way in the bios to set the boot to second hd
[15:05] <h6mi1007> oskude: what is x?
[15:05] <bod_> cwillu, i dont have to no
[15:05] <quittt> do you which is the best CD ripper?
[15:05] <oskude> h6mi1007, http://www.x.org - its the "CTRL+ALT+F7" thing in easy words :)
[15:05] <bod_> DRebellion, ok ,.,. next,.,.sorry,.,. i get this in the terminal (the command still works) :tar: Removing leading `/' from member names
[15:06] <solatis> hello, how can i find out which package a certain executable belongs to ? i have /usr/bin/git, but it says the package 'git' is not installed.. any ideas ?
[15:06] <Almindor> aaah
[15:06] <Almindor> I had to remove and reinstall the package
[15:06] <quittt> do you know
[15:06] <quittt> ?
[15:06] <Almindor> not just reinstall, since it's a "downloader" package
[15:06] <quittt> I want to put I record that I bought in ogg
[15:06] <h6mi1007> oskude: nothing happends when i hit ctrl+atl+f7 from my desktop.
[15:06] <oskude> h6mi1007, because your already int it
[15:06] <bod_> !enter | Almindor | quittt
[15:06] <ubotu> Almindor | quittt: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[15:06] <oskude> h6mi1007, because you're already in it
[15:07] <incorrect> i don't seem to be able to get the bonding module to load
[15:07] <h6mi1007> oskude: ok, so from here do ctrl+atl+f2/
[15:07] <quittt> bod_, Almindor?
[15:07] <astro76> quittt: anythig that uses the cdparanoia library, like Grip
[15:07] <icy_> is it possible to install a single package from hardy under gutsy?
[15:07] <Epicenter> I did the Ubuntu install on another machine and put the HD in this one (which can't boot from ANY removable media, USB device or the network.) But when I boot it up it just hangs at "Running local boot scripts (/etc/rc.local)". :(
[15:07] <oskude> h6mi1007, please read carefully! i said ALT+F2
[15:07] <bod_> quittt, other person aswell
[15:07] <Epicenter> Am I doing something wrong?
[15:07] <rich__> cheers boss
[15:07] <mannytu> !tty
[15:07] <ubotu> To get to the TTY terminals 1-6, use the keystroke ctrl + alt + F1-F6 respectively (Alt+F7 will get you back to your graphical login).  To change the resolution for your TTY, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ChangeTTYResolution.
[15:08] <h6mi1007> oskude: ok
[15:08] <quittt> bod_, I thought it was the app, do you know?
[15:08] <h6mi1007> oskude: and that is xterm?
[15:08] <SpaceBass> anyone using a attansic L1 ethernet adaptor?
[15:08] <SpaceBass> i cannot get it to work with 7.10
[15:08] <astro76> !info grip | quittt
[15:08] <ubotu> quittt: grip (source: grip): GNOME-based CD-player/ripper/encoder. In component universe, is optional. Version 3.3.1-12ubuntu2 (gutsy), package size 457 kB, installed size 1304 kB
[15:08] <bod_> quittt, sorry,.,. whats your question?
[15:08] <oskude> h6mi1007, thats the Run Application dialog, type "xterm" in it and click run
[15:08] <Godo_>  I have 2 hard disks, m$ in the primary and ubuntu in the secondary. Following the tutorial I just can setup grub in the second. any idea?
[15:08] <h6mi1007> oskude: got it
[15:08] <quittt> already answered =] thanks
[15:09] <oskude> h6mi1007, now in that xterm, type: gnome-terminal
[15:09] <oskude> h6mi1007, and i hope we get errors :)
[15:09] <incorrect> where can i put my own custom module aliases?
[15:09] <h6mi1007> oskude: hehe ok
[15:09] <Scunizi> Godo_: I'm not sure what you're asking can you restate it?
[15:09] <oskude> h6mi1007, i assume xterm worked (you got a black or white window, like gnome-terminal)
[15:09] <h6mi1007> oskude: can i copy/paste?
[15:10] <oskude> !paste
[15:10] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[15:10] <oskude> h6mi1007, please use what ubotu said
[15:10] <oskude> h6mi1007, and then paste the link to your "paste"
[15:10] <h6mi1007> oskude: hmm ok...
[15:10] <Godo_> Scunizi: I need to restore my grub after a M$ installation, and followed the ubuntu tutorial
[15:11] <Epicenter> Is there a way to get Ubuntu to re-detect all my hardware from the console?
[15:11] <h6mi1007> oskude: how do i copy?
[15:11] <oskude> h6mi1007, just go to http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ post your lines there, then paste the link you get in here
[15:11] <danbhfive> Epicenter: what hardware?
[15:11] <Godo_> Scunizi: but that tutorial just set grub in the second hd
[15:11] <oskude> h6mi1007, wait, gotta test how it works in xterm
[15:12] <Epicenter> danbhfive: Everything. I did the install from another machine and swapped the HDD in. The target machine cannot boot any device but its own HDD
[15:12] <Epicenter> danbhfive: I have Ubuntu running but all the hardware detected was on the installing PC. So it can't even run X, it finds no screens, it doesn't recognize the video hardware...
[15:12] <oskude> h6mi1007, damn, doesnt seem to work with gnome paste :( sec
[15:12] <danbhfive> Epicenter: ah, so it cant but a cd
[15:12] <h6mi1007> np
[15:12] <Scunizi> Godo_: check out http://users.bigpond.net.au/hermanzone/p15.htm
[15:12] <h6mi1007> i can type it
[15:13] <danbhfive> Epicenter: ok, im guessing at the command here: sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-org
[15:13] <oskude> h6mi1007, you could do: gnome-terminal &> debug1.txt
[15:13] <oskude> h6mi1007, and then open that debug1.txt in text editor and copy paste from there...
[15:13] <h6mi1007> k
[15:13] <cwillu> danbhfive, xserver-xorg
[15:13] <Epicenter> danbhfive: 'xserver-org is not installed'
[15:13] <h6mi1007> where is debug1.txt?
[15:14] <cwillu> Epicenter, xserver-xorg
[15:14] <metafoo> is it possible to cp all of /usr to an SD card and mount that via fstab?
[15:14] <oskude> h6mi1007, i assume in youre home dir
[15:14] <danbhfive> Epicenter: its just the video stuff thats messed up, right, thanks cwillu
[15:14] <BlackRec1> how do i set up my two nics for a gateway/firewall/web hosting server?
[15:14] <Epicenter> danbhfive: black screen. Nothing on any console
[15:14] <Godo_> Scunizi: cheking... add info: my laptop just boot from the first one, there is no other option in the bios
[15:14] <danbhfive> Epicenter: sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg
[15:15] <Epicenter> I just did that, black screen on all consoles
[15:15] <Epicenter> it's hung
[15:15] <Epicenter> danbhfive: I really think I need to do a real install. But I can't think of HOW to get the damn thing to install on this machine with no way to boot anything but the HD.
[15:15] <rich__> do i have to use gvim to get the colours going?
[15:15] <danbhfive> Epicenter: oh, well, I'm not sure then
[15:15] <branstrom> How do I access an AFP share in Nautilus?
[15:15] <danbhfive> Epicenter: I installed on this machine the way you did
[15:15] <Scunizi> Godo_: the link will explain how to put grub on any or all drives/partitions
[15:15] <Epicenter> damn ....
[15:16] <danbhfive> Epicenter: are you able to upgrade?
[15:16] <Epicenter> danbhfive: only if it can find my network card, maybe...
[15:16] <Epicenter> but isn't this the newest version? 7.10?
[15:16] <DRebellion> rich__: no
[15:16] <danbhfive> ya
[15:16] <Jessica> HELP ME OMG:  www.fightthebite.co.cc
[15:16] <oskude> h6mi1007, brb, gotta do something, again...
[15:16] <h6mi1007> k
[15:16] <h6mi1007> i gotta go for 20 min too
[15:16] <rich__> i cant see any colours in vim
[15:17] <erisco> what is the bot's name?
[15:17] <DRebellion> !bot | erisco
[15:17] <rich__> do i need to set it up somewhere
[15:17] <ubotu> erisco: I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[15:17] <whyameye> even though I have Option "VertEdgeScroll" "1" in /etc/X11/xorg.conf, synclient is showing the value to be 0 when X is restarted. Gutsy.
[15:17] <erisco> ubotu, that's it :)
[15:17] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about that's it :) - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[15:17] <erisco> :P
[15:18] <Epicenter> danbhfive:  X server started on a reboot. but colors are all screwed up.
[15:18] <BlackRec1> how do i correctly configure two nics for a gateway/firewall/web server?
[15:18] <Epicenter> danbhfive: once I log in colors are OK
[15:19] <bobbo> What user are cron-jobs run as in Ubuntu?
[15:19] <danbhfive> Epicenter: well, you should be able to run the command I gave you, you might be having other problems.  I would make sure you are upgraded to the latest version of 7.10
[15:19] <Epicenter> danbhfive: how do I do an upgrade if one is available?
[15:19] <danbhfive> Epicenter: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[15:19] <erisco> are there no gui clients for svn?
[15:19] <Epicenter> New problem. The mouse cursor is badly delayed. Very badly. If I plug in a USB mouse the same problem exists
[15:20] <Epicenter> the mouse jerks around and only updates .. maybe once a second.
[15:20] <branstrom> erisco: ask in #svn?
[15:20] <kodge> How can I find out my video cards memory size in Ubuntu?
[15:20] <branstrom> How do I access AFP shares in Ubuntu?
[15:20] <metafoo> esvn is a gui for svn written in Qt
[15:20] <danbhfive> Epicenter: I can help you make sure you are using the latest, but as for these hardware problems, they are beyond me.  Lets hope there is an update that fixes these things
[15:21] <h6mi1007> oskude: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/54481/.
[15:21] <metafoo> !erisco esvn is a gui for svn written in Qt
[15:21] <BlackRec1> !gateway
[15:21] <BlackRec1> !nic
[15:21] <oskude> h6mi1007, ill check
[15:21] <ubotu> Many Ubuntu IRC channels prohibit access from !proxies such as !TOR due to a high level of abuse. You can however obtain a hostmask cloak: see http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#cloaks
[15:21] <ubotu> For lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport - To help debugging and improving hardware detection, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingHardwareDetection
[15:22] <kestir> oh hey, it's a leap year
[15:22] <branstrom> erisco: http://www.exubero.com/blog/20070601_Nautilus_Scripts_for_Subversion.html
[15:22] <danbhfive> !askthebot > BlackRec1
[15:22] <oskude> h6mi1007, ok, i think that is over my skills :(
[15:22] <metafoo> is it possible to cp all of /usr to an SD card and mount that via fstab?
[15:22] <DRebellion> metafoo: yes
[15:22] <h6mi1007> ok, thanks for helping out, i'll bbl...
[15:23] <metafoo> will I need the serial from proc/bus/usb ?
[15:23] <danbhfive> metafoo: I don't know the answer to your question, but I'm curious as to why you would want to do that?
[15:23] <oskude> h6mi1007, np, later
[15:23] <metafoo> i only have 4 gb of disk
[15:23] <metafoo> eeepc
[15:23]  * oskude wants an eeepc too!
[15:24] <Scunizi> metafoo: probably but you'll have to be careful with the sd card.  If it is mounted befofe or after other usb storage devices it will change it's address. You might have to give it a name.
[15:24] <metafoo> symbolic link to the sd?
[15:24] <erisco> Brandon_, metafoo thanks
[15:25] <erisco> branstrom, thanks
[15:25] <branstrom> branstrom :)
[15:25] <Scunizi> metafoo: no I was thinking "label"
[15:25] <branstrom> no sweat
[15:25] <metafoo> ah,
[15:26] <metafoo> i have xubuntu installed, but I want kde4 too but no room :(
[15:26] <nathanial> sometimes when i switch between ttys going back to tty7 i lost my signal and cannot see any tty, could this be because im using the proprietary drivers for a radeon card?
[15:27] <metafoo> thanks everyone, bb
[15:27] <nathanial> anyone?
[15:27] <Scunizi> metafoo: understandable.. kde4 might be to bulky .. might try geobuntu.. ubuntu w/ enlightenment
[15:27] <wikki> i'm trying to setup Xvnc to allow me to connect into a second x session remotely
[15:27] <wikki> has anyone got htis working in gusty?
[15:28] <moad> my ubuntu doesnt recognize my flash disc ...
[15:28] <wikki> i've tried following this how to but it's no working :http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=122402
[15:28] <kodge> When I try and update my graphics cards drivers, it says im running an " X Server " and it can't proceed, im stumped absolutely, any one willing to help?
[15:29] <cx23> hey my ubuntu doesnt connect to the net after upgrading to fiesty
[15:29] <cx23> no matter how i configure the network cark
[15:29] <Epicenter> I am using XFCE.. if I click QUIT the window to pick an option (Swithc user, log out, etc.) comes up. And the mouse is no longer delayed
[15:29] <Epicenter> if I close it, it's delayed again
[15:29] <cx23> card**
[15:29] <Epicenter> Horribly
[15:29] <oskude> kodge, how did you try to update the drivers ?
[15:29] <Epicenter> It's like something is hogging the spotlight and wasting CPU cycles but I cannot tell for the life of me what
[15:30] <Epicenter> It delays the keyboard too
[15:30] <fantum13> Is it a good idea to set optimizations on apt-build to -O3? I'm used to using gentoo and having -O2 for safety's sake, but an article I read said that debian built their packages with -O2 anyways, so only -O3 was a performance boost. Can anyone give me feedback about this?
[15:30] <Scunizi> kodge: the x server is what allows you to have a gui.  you'll need to do the update from the command line, ctrl+alt+F2.  beyond this I can't tell you how to do it..
[15:30] <danbhfive> Epicenter: did you upgrade successfully?
[15:30] <Epicenter> not yet.. I'll try
[15:31] <Epicenter> I can't go to any virtual consoles
[15:31] <Epicenter> they are all black screens
[15:31] <danbhfive> Epicenter: ugh
[15:31] <Epicenter> and I can't seem to get xfce to spawn a terminal window. the mouse is SO delayed and everything is so slow I can barely navigate it
[15:31] <danbhfive> Epicenter: maybe there is a safe mode you can boot into
[15:31] <Epicenter> it's like crawling through molasses
[15:31] <fredl> Epicenter - does pressing a key in a virtual console activate it?
[15:31] <danbhfive> Epicenter: is this a slow computer anyway?
[15:31] <Epicenter> Not THAT slow. Crusoe 1 GHz, 256mb ram
[15:31] <Amon_Re> Hi folks, i've got a pretty stupid question, but google seems unhelpfull for the moment, does anyone know wether or not ubuntu uses the /etc/modules.conf file? Eighter it doesn't use it, or it'ds
[15:31] <fantum13> Epicenter: I had that issue on Feisty, the only way I could get tty0-6 is by breaking X and rebooting.
[15:32] <Amon_Re> or it's fubarred
[15:32] <danbhfive> Epicenter: how much swap?
[15:32] <Epicenter> fantum13: "breaking X"?
[15:32] <Epicenter> danbhfive: No idea, I let the installer decide
[15:32] <fredl> ctrl-alt-backspace
[15:32] <Amon_Re> Epicenter: > <   <<< broken X :P
[15:32] <Epicenter> "Guided partitioning". It wouldn't let me make my own partitions
[15:32] <bullgard4> http://us1.samba.org/samba/docs/man/Samba-HOWTO-Collection/install.html#id325669: "Each section in the smb.conf file represents either a share or a meta-service on the Samba server. Samba supports a number of meta-services, each of which serves its own purpose. For example, the [homes] share is a meta-service that causes Samba to provide a personal home share for each user." What is meant by 'meta-service'?
[15:32] <Epicenter> It would just make my / and then call the rest of the disk "unusuable" :P
[15:33] <alpaco> why i can't find icecat, iceweasel or iceape in synaptic?
[15:33] <danbhfive> Epicenter: well, get to a console if you can
[15:33] <PriceChild> alpaco, the original versions, firefox etc. are in there
[15:33] <danbhfive> Epicenter: *terminal
[15:33] <fantum13> Epicenter: Or altering the X config file to not let it boot, or just spamming contrl-alt-backspace when it was booting. Upgrading to gutsy fixed it, IIRC.
[15:33] <alpaco> I don't want firefox, I want icecat which is 100% free
[15:33] <kestir> but blows
[15:34] <alpaco> if I package it can it be included on the repositories?
[15:34] <Epicenter> fantum13: what version is Gutsy? 7.10?
[15:34] <Amon_Re> alpaco: get the debian files then
[15:34] <Epicenter> because I installed 7.10
[15:34] <fantum13> Epicenter: Yes.
[15:34] <alpaco> Amon_Re: shall I add debian repositories?
[15:34] <kestir> you shall
[15:34] <KiD_ChAoS> compiz on Suse possible?
[15:34] <alpaco> ok
[15:34] <erUSUL> alpaco: bad idea; imnsho
[15:34] <rsk> KiD_ChAoS: wrong channel
[15:34] <danbhfive> Epicenter: have you gotten to a terminal?  if so, run 'free'
[15:35] <erUSUL> KiD_ChAoS: ask on a suse channel
[15:35] <Epicenter> the system is not delayed in Failsafe XTerm
[15:35] <Epicenter> which I got to successfully
[15:35] <Epicenter> free ram is 45,432k
[15:35] <Epicenter> swap free is 851,112kb
[15:35] <Epicenter> All of swap is unused
[15:36] <ruth> mh, kann man eigentlich irgendwie gucken wer/was gerade auf ein bestimmtes verzeichniss zugreift?
[15:36] <danbhfive> Epicenter: hey, at least you got swap, thats good, now try to upgrade
[15:36] <fantum13> alpaco: Have you enabled all of the repositories? I can see iceweasel in my apt.
[15:36] <kidem> anyone have issues with azureus client....i installed it...it starts then just stops....i have a desktop same OS version and it works...but this is a laptop..any ideas?
[15:36] <alpaco> fantum13: let me see
[15:36] <Orfeous> having problems installing latest nvidia-drivers with ubuntu hardy
[15:36] <Orfeous> tried both envy and nvidiascrip..
[15:37] <Orfeous> nvidiascript..
[15:37] <Amon_Re> alpaco: add the debian repo's? Nah, that's asking for trouble, just get the debs for icecat & iceweasel
[15:37] <Orfeous> nothing works!
[15:37] <danbhfive> !hardy | Orfeous
[15:37] <ubotu> Orfeous: Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - CONSIDER IT TO BE PRE BETA (ALPHA) SOFTWARE - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[15:37] <Xecuter> how do i downgrade a package through ssh?? want to downgrade gcc
[15:37] <fantum13> Xecuter: apt-get install gcc-version
[15:37] <alpaco> Amon_Re: ok, thanks
[15:37] <stachou57_> bonjour
[15:37] <Epicenter> I assume i need to add internet repositories to upgrade?
[15:37] <alpaco> stachou57: salut
[15:38] <Orfeous> danbhfive: whats wrong with you?
[15:38] <Amon_Re> Xecuter: dpkg -i <package.deb> SHOULD Work
[15:38] <stachou57_> j'ai besoin d'un pas a pas pour installer neuf media center une aide svp
[15:38] <Epicenter> all I have right now is the CDROM which this system doesn't have
[15:38] <Xecuter> fantum13, got  Couldn't find any package whose name or description matched "gcc3.3"
[15:38] <danbhfive> Orfeous: what IS wrong with me?
[15:38] <astro76> Orfeous: #ubuntu+1 for hardy
[15:38] <astro76> !fr | stachou57_
[15:38] <ubotu> stachou57_: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[15:39] <stachou57_> ok
[15:39] <fantum13> Xecuter: If you're using the bash shell, you can hit tab to autocomplete possible versions. I can install gcc-2.95 to gcc-4.2
[15:39] <stachou57_> merci
[15:39] <Orfeous> dahitokiri: that url doenst help me at all!
[15:39] <Xecuter> fantum13, i'll try
[15:39] <roddersg> can anyone tell me whether cups requires lpr to be installed?
[15:39] <astro76> Orfeous: the key point was #ubuntu+1
[15:39] <NoD--> OOOOPS
[15:39] <Orfeous> astro76: ok, checking it out! thank you!
[15:39] <Wallin> Hello there, Im to ubuntu and well linux systems. Been a windows guy for like as long as I could remember.. Anyway, I was trying to unpack a .rar file with Ark but it doesnt work.. do I need some other program or what?
[15:39] <Amon_Re> So,  does anyone know how i can specify options for modules to be applied at boot?
[15:39] <alpaco> fantum13: I have enabled everything, but since the servers are in Iran the repository might not be complete, let me try the US server
[15:40] <LimCore> what happened to gpref?!
[15:40] <LimCore> I cant install it
[15:40] <Amon_Re> /etc/modules ? Or should i recreate a /etc/modules.conf file?
[15:40] <oskude> !rar
[15:40] <ubotu> rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression. There is a free (as in speech) unrar utility as well, see !info unrar-free
[15:40] <erUSUL> roddersg: no there is no need (btw the lpr command you can install is a cups executable to provide lpd compability)
[15:40] <omkar> hi
[15:40] <omkar> frinds
[15:40] <omkar> i am getting hal error
[15:40] <omkar> what is this
[15:41] <omkar> hal error?
[15:41] <leppy> hardware abstraction layer
[15:41] <fantum13> Amon_Re: Ubuntu users /etc/modules by default, IFAIK. You can just use that if the functionality is the same
[15:41] <Scunizi> !enter | omkar
[15:41] <ubotu> omkar: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[15:41] <roddersg> hi erUSUL - found the problem on wine, that we were discussing the other day
[15:41] <omkar> ok
[15:41] <benjamin_> k pasa cabrones , hijos d puta , m cago en vuetsros pútos
[15:41] <edju> lspci id of my  wireless has "03:00.0".  what does that mean?
[15:41] <benjamin_> okokok
[15:41] <Amon_Re> fantum13: 'k thx, that's what i needed to know
[15:42] <alpaco> Add/Remove -> some repositories fail when downloading package information, what's wrong?
[15:42] <omkar> how can i fix it?
[15:42] <erUSUL> ubotu tell omkar about enter | omkar see priv msg from ubotu
[15:42] <Amon_Re> alpaco: do sudo apt-get update from the console for details
[15:42] <erUSUL> roddersg: can you refresh my memory?
[15:42] <alpaco> ok
[15:42] <danbhfive> !enablesources | alpaco this might help you too
[15:42] <ubotu> alpaco this might help you too: Enable the standard Ubuntu repositories by going to System > Administration > Software Sources - See !repositories for detailed information
[15:43] <roddersg> erUSUL - using Dapper & Wine, could not open files and has the win95 commdll errors
[15:43] <chazco> Anyone syncing a HTC TyTn 2 with Ubuntu care to explain how they did it?
[15:43] <alpaco> danbhfive: thanks
[15:43] <alpaco> ubotu: thanks\