[22:33] <ay^> Hentay: via the terminal? I would think thats possible, but again I suppose it depends in the interface.
[22:33] <geeksquad> please help im using 8.10
[22:33] <Hentay> russ i can give my both hands, but i don;t know if it helps for u :)
[22:33] <partymetroid> I'm trying to install Ubuntu, but Ubiquity hangs at 12% while starting up the partitioner.
[22:33] <Flannel> geeksquad: check ~/.profile
[22:34] <Serafeim> please help, when i plug in my headphones the sound still comes out from the speakers of my laptop!
[22:34] <Hentay> ay^,  maybe do u know from there i can get more info?
[22:34] <ay^> russ: did you use the nvidia-settings?
[22:34] <csilk> crimsun, yes
[22:34] <Pirate_Hunter> can someone help me with my network i cant seem to connect to the internet at all tried creating a static ip but it is not being found in ifconfig, what could be wrong (followed this tut http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/howto-ubuntu-linux-convert-dhcp-network-configuration-to-static-ip-configuration.html)?
[22:34] <russ> ay^: I'm using the nvidia driver
[22:34] <Hentay> Serafeim, ur plugin is good?
[22:34] <ay^> Hentay: I'm sorry to say the only information gathering places I have are ubuntu forums and google it self
[22:34] <geeksquad> thats there
[22:34] <Hentay> :)
[22:34] <psicobra> any one any good with setting up 5.1 speaker system
[22:34] <russ> ay^: am I understanding you?
[22:34] <fisk0> pantcho: this is the command I was recommended (enter it in a terminal): sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[22:34] <Hentay> ay^,  thanks :)
[22:34] <ay^> russ: still, did you use the nvidia program for settings?
[22:34] <Serafeim> hentay: yea, the sound comes both from headphones and speakers
[22:34] <ay^> russ:  no :)
[22:35] <russ> ay^: no I have not to my understanding
[22:35] <ghindo> Hi.  My laptop running Ubuntu 8.10 keeps experiencing what I suspect to be a kernel panic; everything freezes up and the caps/scroll lock lights start blinking.  Does anybody have any ideas?
[22:35] <Serafeim> i want to mute the speakers when i plug in the headphones
[22:35] <ay^> russ: there is a package that something like nvidia-settings, han gon a second I'll look it up
[22:35] <geeksquad>             flannel what do id do
[22:35] <Hentay> i think that the easiest way is to turn off laptom speakers via sound control center
[22:35] <ay^> russ: nvidia-settings is the name
[22:35] <Flannel> geeksquad: use that instead.  I believe everything has been moved there.
[22:35] <Stormx2> ghindo: Is there a particular event which causes it? is it during boot, or normal usage?
[22:35] <ay^> russ install it and use it (with root I think)
[22:36] <pantcho> fisk0 will try
[22:36] <geeksquad> well its avery small file
[22:36] <spidey> russ: also you may need to run: sudo nvidia-xconfig
[22:36] <Serafeim> hentay: when i turn off the laptop speakers the sound mutes from both
[22:36] <ghindo> Stormx2: Just normal usage.  I can't pin it to a certain application, either
[22:36] <fisk0> pantcho: note that it didn't work for me, but my entire system is acting strange, might be  moer than just the drivers breaking down on my system
[22:36] <eraggo> Serafeim: have you tried option: headphones?
[22:36] <Stormx2> ghindo: Mad. It's not something I've had to deal with, I guess there must be some sort of system log
[22:37] <Flannel> geeksquad: so was the old bash_profile, it sources .bashrc and optionally sets your path to include ~/bin, right?
[22:37] <Serafeim> eraggo: yeah
[22:37] <eraggo> :/
[22:37] <fisk0> judging by the names of the programs it looks like it's supposed to fix xorg acting strange
[22:37] <russ> ay^: I have that installed, only prob is that this is my first experience with linux
[22:37] <Flannel> geeksquad: What are you trying to do?
[22:37] <ay^> russ: it's okay. But ou need to use that app
[22:37] <ghindo> Stormx2: I browsed through the system log a bit, but couldn't find anything conclusive.  Thanks for the help, anyway
[22:37] <fisk0> I'll try another reboot now
[22:37] <partymetroid> I'm going crazy here.
[22:37] <eraggo> why? :D
[22:38] <geeksquad> without bash profile does bashrc run
[22:38] <partymetroid> eraggo: No one will answer my question. D:
[22:38] <eraggo> and it was...?
[22:38] <russ> ay^: so I just go to command line and type "sudo nvidia-xconfig" ?
[22:38] <ping2> is there any way to see if my network card is connected at 10mbps or 100mbps?
[22:38] <psicobra> ok basically i have a logitech 5.1 system and i have an HD soundcard witch supports 5.1 but it only has 3 output sockets and i cannot get mythtv using 5.1 any one able to help
[22:38] <Stormx2> partymetroid: What was your question?
[22:38] <ay^> russ: yes and then "sudo nvidia-settings"
[22:38] <partymetroid> eraggo: My question was, "Why does Ubiquity hang on the partitioner at 12%?"
[22:38] <Serafeim> there's no solution?? :(
[22:38] <geirha> geeksquad: for non-interactive shells .bashrc will be sourced, for interactive shells, .bash_profile will be sourced
[22:39] <crimsun> csilk: how many resources do you have to further debug?  I recommend you either walk through the debootstrap sequence by hand to narrow the culprit in debootstrap, or attempt to reproduce it from a live/desktop environment
[22:39] <ping2> psicobra, does the sound system have a digital or optical input?
[22:39] <geeksquad> what
[22:39] <eraggo> o.O
[22:39] <Flannel> geeksquad: see the comments at the tops  of those files, bashrc runs on non-interactive shells, profile runs on interactive shells (and profile sources rc)
[22:39] <icqnumber>  Missing plugin: gstreamer|0.10|totem|Windows Media RTP depayloader|decoder-application/x-rtp, what packages do i miss?
[22:39] <crimsun> csilk: otherwise, if you lack resources, it may be in your best interest to just blow it away
[22:39] <sidney> crimsun it didnt work
[22:39] <psicobra> my system has 1 optical input and 3 anoloug ones but my sound card only has anologue
[22:39] <Stormx2> partymetroid: I thought ubiquity was a firefox extension? o.o
[22:39] <crimsun> sidney: what's the output from `asoundconf list'?
[22:39] <Flannel> Stormx2: no, its the GUI installer
[22:39] <pLr> geeksquad's are effing n0bs
[22:39] <geeksquad> so will rc run without bash profile just say tes or no
[22:40] <Stormx2> Flannel: Ah, okay.
[22:40] <Flannel> geeksquad: For non-interactive shells
[22:40] <Flannel> pLr: Please watch your language, and follow the code of conduct
[22:40] <geeksquad> is bash non-interactive?
[22:40] <sidney> what was the command again
[22:40] <pLr> Flannel: sry
[22:40] <csilk> crimsun, I'm in the process of getting an intrepid VM up and running. My plan was to move my packaging work away from my laptop and onto my dualscreen desktop, so far not looking good
[22:40] <Flannel> geeksquad: no, a terminal is interactive.
[22:40] <ping2> psicobra, might need to upgrade your sound card, sounds like you need one with an optical out
[22:40] <crimsun> sidney: asoundconf list
[22:40] <russ>  ay^: I'm actually using that program now, but I still don't know how to config it for dual monitors
[22:40] <partymetroid> Stormx2: Ubiquity is the Ubuntu installation program. :/
[22:40] <ping2> psicobra, what sound card do you have?
[22:40] <Stormx2> partymetroid: Yeah. Flannel already said.
[22:41] <partymetroid> Oh, okay.
[22:41] <psicobra> ping2, i was thinking that any suggestions on a cheap card that is linux compatible that has optical out
[22:41] <ay^> russ: Its pretty straight forward if you know what stuff means, and sadly I'm on my laptop now with a intel gfx, but my desktop has nvidia and dual monitors
[22:41] <sidney> Audigy
[22:41] <m3lawren> Anyone know why nautilus might be spinning on one of my cpus?
[22:41] <sidney> V8235
[22:41] <pLr> geeksquad: an example of non-interactive bash is ssh host command here, interactive is ssh host; wait for shell; command here
[22:41] <psicobra> ping2, it is an onboard card some HD audio crap
[22:41] <csilk> crimsun, I have a suspicion this has something to do with an update from the last couple of update cycles, if this is true I can't imagine many peopeol would of spotted it, how many people have setup a pbuilt intrepid environment in the last 7 days.. not many I should guess
[22:41] <geeksquad> Flannel my question is: does bashrc run on startup without bash_profile i am using bash just say yes or no
[22:41] <geirha> geeksquad: if you run a script with bash, it runs non-interactive.
[22:41] <crimsun> sidney: ok, now, please pastebin the output from `amixer -c0'
[22:41] <russ> ay^: I need twin view correct?
[22:41] <crimsun> sidney: there will be a lot of output
[22:42] <ping2> psicobra, search around a bit, i have a sb live! with digital coax that works nicely, make sure you get one with digital optical out
[22:42] <pantcho> fisk0:it worked!
[22:42] <ping2> good luck bbl
[22:42] <crimsun> sidney: alternately, please download http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-info.sh and run it using bash
[22:42] <ay^> russ: I don't really remember but either twin view or separate screens suits you best
[22:42] <psicobra> i have coaxial in aswell
[22:42] <geeksquad> flannel se my last post and say yes or no not annything else
[22:42] <psicobra> on surround system
[22:42] <ay^> with separate screens you can check a check-box that says something like "xcinerama"
[22:42] <sidney> that's alot of info
[22:43] <sidney> should i paste it here
[22:43] <ay^> which then would allow you to have different stuff on each screen, but still be able to drag and drop between them
[22:43] <Flannel> geeksquad: What are you wondering about?  You're being rather obtuse in the manner in which you're asking questions.
[22:43] <cheze> como bootear con puppy en windows 95
[22:43] <pLr> geeksquad: the answer is often it depends, bashrc is made for commands run when a user logs in, if you want it when the computer starts up use /etc/rc(runlevel)
[22:43] <pLr> .d
[22:43] <geeksquad> say somthing a 9 yr old can understand
[22:43] <maxxist> what does it mean when at the top of my xchat window it says #ubuntu-unregged   ????
[22:43] <herrmess> LjL : I tried a reboot, didn't work.
[22:44] <zamba> maxxist: you're not registered with nickserv on freenode
[22:44] <ay^> maxxist: I think it means you haven't regged your nickname
[22:44] <Flannel> geeksquad: Ask your actual question.  What are you doing that you want to know if bashrc is going to be accessed or not?
[22:44] <geeksquad> plr bashrc runs without bash_profile when i log in
[22:44] <zamba> maxxist: at least you weren't registered at the point of joining the channel
[22:44] <balzac> i registered my nick with nickserv because I was so happy with it and I don't want to lose my identity on freenode
[22:44] <maxxist> brb
[22:44] <balzac> I don't care about efnet.
[22:44] <herrmess> Summary --- ifup eth1 (LAN NIC) kills all traffic on eth0 (EXT NIC) . Any ideas anyone?
[22:44] <m11> eve
[22:44] <icqnumber> The playback of this movie requires a Windows Media RTP depayloader plugin which is not installed. what package is that?
[22:45] <Flannel> geeksquad: not with bash_profile, but with .profile, yes.
[22:45] <psicobra> ping2, what is exact model of your card please
[22:45] <geirha> geeksquad: put an "echo blah" at the bottom of your .bashrc and see if it shows "blah" when you log in
[22:45] <pLr> geeksquad: ubuntu uses .profile
[22:45] <geeksquad> good so .profile runs on startup too
[22:45] <Flannel> geeksquad: .profile and .bash_profile are equivalent for the purposes of this conversation, yes.
[22:46] <Ademan> is there a way to use apt or aptitude to remove a package, and then if as a result, any packages are unneeded, they will be removed as well? (aptitude --purge-unused is much too overzealous)
[22:46] <pLr> geeksquad: everything has a purpose you cant put scripts there unless they should be executed when a user launches a shell
[22:46] <ay^> Ademan: yes sudo apt-get remove packagename
[22:46] <maxxist> nope nickserv says i am identified.  still says it at the top
[22:46] <pLr> geeksquad: tell us what you want to do and it will be easier for you
[22:46] <joljam> hi
[22:46] <Flannel> maxxist: Its a property of the channel.
[22:46] <ghindo> Ademan: apt-get and aptitude usually do so when you use the "remove" command
[22:46] <pLr> geeksquad: listen to Flannel
[22:47] <joljam> I am having problems with ubuntu 8.04 LTS
[22:47] <maxxist> Flannel do i need to also register in the channel?
[22:47] <joljam> i will be grateful if anyone could help me
[22:47] <Flannel> Ademan: Try apt-get autoremove, but --simulate it first, to double check.  Also, try deborphan (but autoremove is supposed to replace deborphan)
[22:47] <pLr> joljam: ask your question, do not ask to ask
[22:47] <Flannel> maxxist: No.  the ubuntu-unregged thing is a property of the channel, the channel has #ubuntu-unregged associated with it.  Nothing you do will change it
[22:48] <Ademan> thanks everyone
[22:48] <joljam> once I am online after some time my ubuntu 8/04 freezes on me
[22:48] <joljam> is there any solution available with some one
[22:48] <maxxist> Flannel ok i thought it had something to do with registering..  thanx
[22:49] <pLr> joljam: try using ctrl+alt+backspace to restart your x session, if that works you need to reconfigure your x server
[22:49] <pLr> joljam: if that does not work you must troubleshoot in text mode
[22:49] <hwilde> hey I have an IP address, how do I look up the local dns name ?
[22:49] <deftone> Looking to buy the HP DV5-1125NR and it's got the ATI RADEON HD 3200 graphics RS780M. Does anyone know if Ubuntu Hardy supports this chip??
[22:49] <plouffe> trying to change file permissions using "sudo chmod a+w <filename>" but nothing happens. (no permissions for a after cmd executes without error). Any ideas why?
[22:49] <geirha> hwilde: host <ipaddr>
[22:49] <icqnumber> The playback of this movie requires a Windows Media RTP depayloader plugin which is not installed. what package is that?
[22:50] <solara> i recompiled ubuntu with ext4 support, but i still can't mount a partition formated as ext4
[22:50] <solara> mount complains, saying: mount: unknown filesystem type 'ext4'
[22:50] <rootsnatch> is ext4 stable?
[22:50] <pLr> solara: ext4 is experimental still i believe you should not use it unless you can troubleshoot it yourself
[22:50] <Aeosynth1> I'm trying to move onto a physical partition from a virtual one, I formatted the partition as ext3, created a linux swap partition, moved my data onto the main partition using LVPM, but when I try to boot into it I get an error - can't mount disk
[22:50] <qpdb> a lot of files on my ext3 filesystem got a "black square with white ? in it" in its name, is there a scripts/tool/thing that searches directorys for such broken filenames and cleans them out?
[22:51] <Symmetria> how do I up my maximum number of file descriptors? ulimit -n stil says 1024 no matter what I do
[22:51] <russ> ay^: thx for the help I have it working now :)
[22:51] <pLr> aeosynth put your ubuntu cd in then try to look using gparted
[22:51] <solara> so basically plr you don't kow why including it in the kernel and then recompiling still means i can't mount it
[22:51] <solara> thanks
[22:51] <redDEAD> how do i reset my keyboard settings, alt+F4 no longer closes window
[22:52] <ay^> russ: great! See it's not THAT scary with linux :)
[22:52] <Aeosynth1> pLr: I don't have an ubuntu cd. I installed it from windows using Wubi
[22:52] <crimsun> csilk: hmm, I just pbuilt a base intrepid
[22:52] <crimsun> (yeah, yeah, imprecise)
[22:52] <russ> ay^: I'm loving linux, how is open suse?
[22:52] <pLr> solara: no one troubleshoots experimental in ubuntu, its made to be stable, move to debian or gentoo
[22:52] <ay^> russ: I have no idea, only used debian and ubuntu :)
[22:52] <Symmetria> hrm there we go
[22:52] <FFForever> how do i install ath5k in ubuntu 8.04 i need it for my wifi........
[22:52] <csilk> crimsun, I'm doing to same in a vm in the next few mins, I'll keep you updated
[22:52] <pLr> solara: debian unstable will work much better for ext4
[22:53] <Symmetria> ok ulimit -n 16000 worked
[22:53] <pantcho> Anyone here got a an experience with remote desktop? i made it enabled and i wish that i could login my linux box through VNC client after the ubunutu boots BEFORE i enter user/pass is this possible?
[22:53] <Symmetria> how do I make that perm?
[22:53] <failure> anybody know why my automount /archive wont mount the directory from the server correctly? for instance, if i go cd /archive/sdfsdf the automount will reapear
[22:53] <pLr> aeosynth: wubi puts ur ubuntu in ntfs, in my personal opinion its highly unstable i have no clue how to help sry
[22:53] <failure> but it should work such as cd /archive shows the content.
[22:54] <pLr> Symmetria: you must use sysctl to make this change on a running kernel
[22:54] <Aeosynth1> k thanks, I'll try elsewhere
[22:54] <Symmetria> plr ulimit -n 16000 worked, the sysctl on the max was already at 200000
[22:54] <Symmetria> but it didnt load it with ulimit
[22:54] <Symmetria> ulimit was still set at 1024
[22:54] <FFForever> someone anyone...
[22:54] <Symmetria> how do I actually set that permenantly
[22:54] <Guest99886> hi ppl .... is LaTEX preinstall on ubuntu ?
[22:54] <white_eagle> hey, I need to upgrade some files and the download will take ~630 MBs and openarena is one of the updates and it's very big, it makes 50% of the upgrade, so how can I upgrade everything EXCEPT the openarena and openarena-data packages so my upgrade to be smaller (i'm capped) using the console?
[22:55] <Flannel> pLr: in the future, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=438591
[22:55] <BleSS> please, any guide to configure microphone?
[22:55] <redDEAD> FFForever, have you checked the ubuntuforums.org
[22:55] <Flannel> Guest99886: not preinstalled, no, but theres a package and its easy to install.
[22:55] <redDEAD> FFForever, search for your model number and there is bound to be help
[22:55] <FFForever> redDEAD, yeah but i cant find the right package :/
[22:55] <pLr> Symmetria: Try this: http://thedaneshproject.com/posts/how-to-increase-total-file-descriptors-count-on-linux/
[22:55] <FFForever> i find instructions for ndiswrapper but i need ath5k :D
[22:55] <FFForever> ndiswrapper does not work for me....
[22:56] <crimsun> Guest99886: no, but you can install texlive
[22:56] <Symmetria> plr my file-max was already way up there
[22:56] <pLr> Flannel: Thank you
[22:56] <Symmetria> but again, the ulimit hadnt changed
[22:56] <pLr> Symmetria: but if you do not change with sysctl it will not happen
[22:56] <pLr> Symmetria: in the running kernel
[22:56] <Symmetria> plr I DID
[22:56] <Flannel> pLr: If you forget that link, it's linked from the wubi FAQ (search the page for transfer)
[22:57] <Ademan> we don't get python 2.6 in intrepid? :-(
[22:57] <phanter> hi
[22:57] <white_eagle> ...
[22:57] <phanter> how can I install the alternative ubuntu version from usbstick (it keeps asking for cd cd-rom drive)
[22:57] <pLr> Ademan: python is used by ALOT of programs in ubuntu, i guess ubuntu devs arent ready
[22:58] <pLr> Symmetria: so your problem is resolved?
[22:58] <pantcho> Anyone here got a an experience with remote desktop? i made it enabled and i wish that i could login my linux box through VNC client after the ubunutu boots BEFORE i enter user/pass is this possible?
[22:58] <Guest99886> thankx all
[22:58] <Symmetria> plr, *sigh* no, the ulimit -n didnt change until I did a ulimit -n 16000, I need to know how to set that so when it boots again its up there again
[22:58] <solara>  oh son of a bastard
[22:58] <PeskyJ> If I have windows on SATA1 and install ubuntu, is it possible to have ubuntu on SATA2 and the boot loader will make it boot from the second drive?
[22:58] <solara> i didn't compile with lsf
[22:59] <Ademan> pLr: heh, but they have python 3.0 in the repos, 2.6 is actually meant, among other things, to help people transition to 3....
[22:59] <redDEAD> PeskyJ,
[22:59] <Ademan> and it's not like we're not used to having multiple python versions installed at once...
[22:59] <MexTux> I have a problem with VSFTPD on Ubunutu 8.04. I want to create an user to upload content like images, php files, etc. So what I want is to create a new user when that new user logs in his home directory should be /var/www Is it possible? Any help will be appreciated
[22:59] <pLr> pantcho: you want to see your machine boot with vnc?
[22:59] <phanter> pantcho: if you use the RPD protocol you can log in remotely... with vnc I think you cannot indeed
[22:59] <redDEAD> PeskyJ, yes it is you just have to change your grub settings
[22:59] <solara> how is that not defaulted to yes
[22:59] <sidney> Simple mixer control 'Master',0
[22:59] <solara> sigh
[22:59] <sidney>   Capabilities: pvolume pvolume-joined
[22:59] <sidney>   Playback channels: Mono
[22:59] <sidney>   Limits: Playback 0 - 100
[22:59] <FloodBot3> sidney: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:59] <sidney>   Mono: Playback 100 [100%] [0.00dB]
[22:59] <sidney> Simple mixer control 'Tone',0
[23:00] <smalleyes> which of the 4 java plugin options is best: 1) GCJ 2) Java SE 6 3) Java SE 5.0 4) GCJ using OpenJDK? Thanks~
[23:00] <phanter> smalleyes: do you ask us to name our preference or ???
[23:00] <shadewind> smalleyes: Java SE 6
[23:00] <graingert> smalleyes-> icedtea6-plugin
[23:00] <shadewind> GCJ sucks big time
[23:00] <pLr> smalleyes: use the ubuntu-restricted package it has the good one in my opinion
[23:00] <white_eagle> how can I upgrade everything EXCEPT the openarena and openarena-data packages so my upgrade to be smaller (i'm capped) using the console?
[23:00] <smalleyes> phanter: well, i want to know the best.
[23:00] <graingert> smalleyes-> use icedtea it works best as plugin
[23:01] <phanter> smalleyes: of course, we all want and that is why we all write new and shining and better version... everybody thinks something else is better v:)
[23:01] <smalleyes> graingert: you recommend icedtea6 while shadewind, you recommend java se6. what's the diff?
[23:01] <newton> is there anyway to drop all current connections on smtp?
[23:02] <PeskyJ> I previously had windows on a 300G drive in an 80G partition, then I installed ubuntu in the rest... is it possible to duplicate the 80G partition and the first 80G of the ubuntu partition into a 160G drive and use that drive instead, with both OSes not being much the wiser (except perhaps a disk check)?
[23:02] <pLr> BYE BYE ALL GN FRIDAY PARTY!
[23:02] <russ> what is the "Best" music player on linux?
[23:02] <Symmetria> hrm, can anyone here access http://za.releases.ubuntu.com
[23:02] <pLr> russ: amarok
[23:03] <ardchoille> !best | russ
[23:03] <Symmetria> cause unless I broke something it should work ;p
[23:03] <sidney> http://paste.ubuntu.com/69034/
[23:03] <sidney> i guess i did that right
[23:03] <ConstantineXVI> how would I go about batch renaming a bunch of files from the CLI?
[23:03] <ardchoille> sidney: Looks like it :)
[23:04] <pLr> ConstantineXVI: for loops or a file renamer proggy
[23:04] <newton> is there anyway to drop all current connections on smtp? (please...)
[23:04] <ConstantineXVI> i couldn't just, say, "mv *.*.foo *.foo"?
[23:05] <ardchoille> ConstantineXVI:  http://ardchoille.nfshost.com/Linux/RenameFiles
[23:06] <bobuntu> Hey guys. How soon will we get alsa1.0.18 (hdmi audio) and a new rt-kernel?
[23:07] <crimsun> bobuntu: for the latter, you'll need to see linux-backports-modules
[23:07] <joljam> ctrl alt backspace worked for me
[23:08] <newton> is there anyway to drop all current connections on smtp? (please... i've got too many connections to smtp while i just shutted down (and firewalled.) that port)
[23:08] <bobuntu> crimsun, the repositories?
[23:09] <crimsun> bobuntu: yes, aka l-b-m
[23:09] <phanter> newton: i do not know your answer, but you can always stop and start the service by hand... I guess that will make sure the active connections are dropped
[23:09] <newton> i did phanter
[23:09] <AgentHeX> so apparently i'm an idiot and didn't RTFM before setting an NTFS partition to type 0.  now neither windows nor ubuntu can see the partition.  i have data i'd like to get back, and the partition hasn't been touched other than setting it to type 0, so if anyone knows of programs that can detect partition boundaries, i would love to hear it.
[23:09] <newton> and i also blocked port 25 in apf
[23:09] <newton> phanter:  and i also blocked port 25 in apf
[23:09] <phanter> then who and what is connecting?
[23:09] <newton> phanter: http://pastebin.com/m7ee9fb64
[23:09] <bobuntu> crimsun, Thanks - I'd seen lbm before.. :)
[23:09] <shane2peru> ok, does anyone know how to get sound setup correctly?  I'm having some real issues with my sound
[23:09] <newton> phanter: they just reconnect every time etc..
[23:10] <phanter> what firewall do you have?
[23:10] <coldboot|home> How do you rsync a file with spaces in it?
[23:10] <fisk0> great. hours or trouble just to get back to a working system you can't set to a higher screen resolution than 640x480
[23:10] <mynous> isnt it \ before the space?
[23:10] <ping2> coldboot|home, use \ before spaces
[23:10] <AgentHeX> coldboot|home: use backslashes to escape the space.
[23:10] <AgentHeX> :-P
[23:10] <zsquareplusc> why is the updtae manager not showing from which to which version it is going to upgrade a packet.. or is there a way to tell it?
[23:10]  * mynous wins the race
[23:10] <newton> phanter: apf and it works great, but it just drops the connection. my firewall isn't the problem but due that high network connections (not only on smtp i just saw) my load is getting big
[23:10] <Hentay> ****@****:~$ sudo apt-get update E: Could not get lock /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable) E: Unable to lock the list directory <<--- what a hell?
[23:11]  * AgentHeX gets honorable mention for spelling out "backslash"
[23:11] <ping2> coldboot|home, if it is from the command line you can use tab to complete the command automatically
[23:11] <phanter> newton: I do not understand. If your firewall drops the connection... then it is not connecting to your smtp port... right ?
[23:11] <coldboot|home> ping2: Dude, are you serious?
[23:11] <coldboot|home> ping2: I'm asking how to transfer from a remote computer, it's not going to tab complete.
[23:12] <newton> phaero: i just restarted my firewall, but the connections must still be closed, but then again its about my load, there connections just dont go away for some reason.
[23:12] <codro> what is the correct syntax for adding a live-cd (actually sd card) to the sources.list?
[23:12] <codro> I need to reinstall network manager but have to do it from removable media
[23:12] <shane2peru> anyone have any experience with setting up sound?
[23:13] <Hentay> ****@****:~$ sudo apt-get update E: Could not get lock /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable) E: Unable to lock the list directory <<--- what a hell?
[23:13] <shane2peru> !language
[23:13] <codro> hentay something else has a file lock
[23:13] <phanter> newton: hmm, what smtp server do you use
[23:13] <AgentHeX> shane2peru: you should check out driver backports.
[23:13] <csilk> crimsun,  I just built an intrepid pbuilt environment in an intrepid VM, it must be a specific problem on my desktop then?
[23:13] <newton> phanter: i've used (if i'm right) postfix
[23:13] <shane2peru> AgentHeX: ok, how do I do that?
[23:13] <Hentay> how can i look what?
[23:13] <AgentHeX> shane2peru: can't remember the exact package name, but it's ubuntu-*-backports i think
[23:13] <AgentHeX> i'm going to look in a second
[23:13] <crimsun> csilk: quite possibly
[23:13] <codro> hentay close other applications like update manager or synaptic
[23:13] <fisk0> I have trouble with the sound too, can't get the line in/mic port on my soundblaster live 24bit to work. but at the moment  my trouble with the screen resolution is worse
[23:13] <ardchoille> Hentay: do you have another package manager running?
[23:14] <newton> phanter: but a silly controle panel removed it ore so and installed another (i dont know which one.)
[23:14] <crimsun> csilk: difficult to say without seeing strace
[23:14] <Hentay> no
[23:14] <Hentay> everything is closed :/
[23:14] <codro> hentay check process list from terminal: ps -ef
[23:14] <csilk> crimsun, is there an easy way to strace the process?
[23:14] <ardchoille> !fixadept
[23:14] <phanter> newton: maybe you want to find that out first :s
[23:14] <extor> Should every iptables firewall ruleset end with a "deny all" as the last rule?
[23:14] <phanter> how can I install the alternative ubuntu version from usbstick (it keeps asking for cd cd-rom drive)
[23:14] <codro> how do i tell synaptic (apt) to look/install from /media/disk which is a intrepid 8.10 image?
[23:14] <newton> phanter: i checeked /etc/init.d/ and i saw Courier i stopped all that processes from it, and could not connect anymore
[23:15] <shane2peru> AgentHeX: linux-backports-modules-2.6.27-7-generic
[23:15] <crimsun> csilk: I don't know of one from within the script, sorry, but you can edit the script to place the output somewhere
[23:15] <AgentHeX> shane2peru: i think that's it.
[23:15] <newton> phanter: so i guess its Courier
[23:15] <csilk> crimsun, I'll look into that
[23:15] <csilk> thanks for the help
[23:15] <shane2peru> AgentHeX: what exactly is it?   A backports driver update?
[23:15] <AgentHeX> it's old drivers.
[23:16] <shane2peru> AgentHeX: hmm, I think I need new drivers.
[23:16] <codro> Hentay: you can also try lsof | grep "/var/lib/apt/lists/lock"
[23:16] <ping2> codro, look in admin -> software sources
[23:16] <Hentay> yeah... linux sux, but use windows and u will be fucked in the asshole
[23:16] <newton> !language
[23:16] <AgentHeX> i used to run 7.10, and it didn't natively detect my audio hardware.  it was an intel HD audio chip (sigmatel something or other), and since 8.04, it's been detected natively
[23:16] <shane2peru> AgentHeX: my sound setup is a mess, It is Conexant Hermosa, using Azalia drivers
[23:16] <TwoD> I've got a Logitech MX518 USB mouse, I had 7 of the 8 buttons working in Hardy, using the mouse driver and ExplorerPS/2 protocol. I'm looking for the best way to get it fully working in Intrepid. Is evdev the way to go (heard it handles more than 7 buttons). I'm using the mouse driver and the ImPS/2 protocol atm.
[23:16] <Hentay> codro,  gnome-terminal smth wrong :/
[23:16] <shane2peru> !language | Hentay
[23:16] <codro> ping2: yes I  know where to look, but I don't know where to point it
[23:16] <phanter> hmm, i have never seen that server type...
[23:17] <codro> i tried doing deb /media/disk intrepid main
[23:17] <codro> that failed miserably
[23:17] <AgentHeX> shane2peru: hmmm...  not too familiar with specific cards, so i'm not that much help.  you can try backports and see if it works.  if not, just uninstall
[23:17] <newton> phanter: is there any way to exclude everything except the users ip from ps aux ? true egrep ore so?
[23:17] <Hentay> maybe that i have used update manager and after that i havent restart my terminal?
[23:17] <newton> phanter: so i can 'sudo ip r add blackhole IP'
[23:18] <shane2peru> anyone have any other ideas on setting up sound cards?
[23:18] <newton> i know theres a way to but now the exact command.
[23:18] <codro> hentay just try rebooting :)
[23:18] <ping2> codro, is anything listed under "installable from cd/dvd" in the ubuntu software tab?
[23:18] <shane2peru> !sound
[23:18] <zsquareplusc> TwoD: my mouse started working with 76 buttons without doing anything. there is no mouse section in xorg.conf anymore
[23:18] <Hentay> y restarted gnome terminal and everything is perfect :D
[23:18] <zsquareplusc> lol.. s/76/7/
[23:19] <codro> ping2: no its an SD card slot
[23:19] <codro> ping2: it is not a cdrom
[23:19] <Hentay> codro,  maybe do u know how could i connect to my router, or other computer using gnome-terminal o bash or smth like this?
[23:19] <codro> Hentay: you need to setup sshd
[23:19] <administrator> hi
[23:19] <Hentay> sshd program ya?
[23:19] <codro> man sshd
[23:19] <phanter> newton: well, never done that... I guess you need somebody who is more familier with your services
[23:20] <Hentay> no manual entry for sshd :D
[23:20] <codro> install the man pages :P
[23:20] <Hentay> it rock's me :D
[23:20] <newton> phanter: i'm searching for a regex to exclude a kinda
[23:20] <codro> anyways this is really annoying, why is it so hard to get synaptic to recognize removable media as a upgrade/package source
[23:21] <ardchoille> codro: because the source isn't set up in the form of a repository?
[23:21] <Falstaf> Some programs don't work well with my monitor ... I get small lines on the screen (one of the progams is movie editor)
[23:21] <TwoD> zsquareplusc, hehe. So, if I add one, it will get ignored? If so, that would be a seriously crippling..
[23:21] <shane2peru> !alsa
[23:21] <codro> ard: yeah I just realized that bleh
[23:21] <ardchoille> !aptoncd | codro
[23:22] <codro> im just gonna put the debs  on the media
[23:22] <codro> easy enough
[23:22] <zsquareplusc> TwoD: no i dont think it is ignored. but without, the mouse is added automatically through hal. what does not work with your mouse?
[23:22] <ping2> codro, oh ok, not sure then, cdrom entries look like "deb cdrom:[Ubuntu 8.04 _Hardy Heron_ - Release amd64 (20080423)]/ hardy main restricted" in sources.list
[23:22] <DB42> how can i see which files are creates by a package ?
[23:22] <phanter> hmm, anyone who ever managed to install ubuntu alternate from usb stick?
[23:22] <codro> phanter: i installed xubuntu desktop from sd slot
[23:23] <teratoma> phanter: i did.  i used usb-creator to make the image
[23:23] <shane2peru> codro: if you just copy them to the proper location from off the cd it will save you some figuring
[23:23] <codro> I used UNetBootin
[23:23] <phanter> teratoma: it was the alternate ubuntu version?
[23:23] <zaleth> I'm doing a university assignment, did anyone here breast feed their children?
[23:23] <rebel_kid> codro, you where either desperate or incredibly bored hehe
[23:23] <ping2> codro, you could also put an a cd image file on the flash drive and mount it as a cd
[23:23] <phanter> and it did not ask for the cd=-rom drive at all ?
[23:23] <teratoma> phanter: yes.  i wanted to get wacky with encrypted LVM, so i used alternative ubuntu version
[23:23] <codro> i don't ahve a cdrom drive
[23:23] <codro> this is a eeepc
[23:23] <DB42> how can i see which files are creates by a package ?
[23:23] <phanter> great :)
[23:24] <shane2peru> codro the location you want to put them in is: /var/cache/apt/archives/
[23:24] <ping2> codro, a .iso cd image file can be mounted to appear as a cd
[23:24] <codro> ping2: i don't have the iso on the computer, i have an sd card that is a bootable extracted iso
[23:25] <zsquareplusc> codro: with the normal cd, i had to copy the hidden folders too, so that it identified the sd card as source drive for the install. not sure if the alternate cd works the same way though
[23:25] <Hentay> codro, sshd apt-cache doesn;t find :)
[23:25] <Hentay> it finds openssh-server
[23:25] <TwoD> zsquareplusc, well, the events are getting through so technically it's "working", but Nautilus and VLC don't recognize the back/forward buttons. Also, there's a button on top of it which I'm not sure what it should do (someone mentioned "back to top"), but it's never worked in Ubuntu. It registers as key 10.
[23:25] <Hentay> it is rshd replacement
[23:25] <ardchoille> Hentay:  apt-cache search sshd
[23:26] <Dominik1> are there any problems to be expected from installing ubuntu over Vista?
[23:26] <energY> Hello
[23:26] <energY> I am hosting a php torrent tracker on my laptop
[23:26] <Hentay> ardchoille, i know, i said that it doesn't find it for me
[23:26] <TwoD> If nothing else works, I was going to try evdev and remapping button 6/7 to Alt+Left/Alt+Right. But I don't think I needed that in Hardy.
[23:26] <energY> But I can't make downloads between it and the vista box, it is a private tracerk.
[23:26] <zsquareplusc> TwoD: i have the buttons remapped with xmodmap. but thy worked out of the box.
[23:26] <ardchoille> Hentay:  apt-cache search sshd  >-- returns nothing?
[23:26] <mhall119> Dominik1: dual-boot or wubi?
[23:26] <Dominik1> dual-boot
[23:26] <olskolirc> can someone tell me the format to change my clock to regular 12 hour time instead of military time?  Hardy Heron
[23:27] <shane2peru> Dominik1: yes
[23:27] <olskolirc> kde
[23:27] <shane2peru> Dominik1: your computer will run faster.
[23:27] <codro> well the big problem is network-manager is not part of the pool on the iso image
[23:27] <zsquareplusc> Hentay: look for ssh-server
[23:27] <mhall119> Dominik1: you should be good
[23:27] <Hentay> ardchoille, it finds: libjsch-java - java secure channel
[23:27] <Hentay> libjsch-java-doc - java secure channel examples
[23:27] <Hentay> openssh-server - secure shell server, an rshd replacement
[23:27] <TwoD> zsquareplusc, did they actually do anything other than sending button events? They do work as back/forward in Firefox, but nowhere else.
[23:27] <shane2peru> Dominik1: you won't open to virus attacks.
[23:27] <olskolirc> can someone say my name so that I can see if im colored?
[23:27] <Dominik1> shane2peru: not benifits they are obvious, but will I have problems with boot order and such
[23:27] <ardchoille> Hentay: ah, ok
[23:27] <Dominik1> I do not want to disable vista
[23:27] <AgentHeX> YAY!  TESTDISK FOR THE WIN!
[23:27] <ping2> !hi | shane2peru
[23:28] <maxxist> olskolirc  should be able to right click on the clock and go ito properties...
[23:28] <unop> !dualboot > Dominik1
[23:28] <olskolirc> thanks maxist
[23:28] <mhall119> Dominik1: you shouldn't, Grub will let you boot windows
[23:28] <olskolirc> can someone tell me the format to change my clock to regular 12 hour time instead of military time?  Hardy Heron
[23:28] <PeskyJ> I have a 160G drive with windows on it and an empty 300G drive, I want to leave the windows installation and data and install ubuntu on the 300G drive, such that I can boot from either.. which way round should I do it?
[23:28] <noisan> I have Kubuntu 8.04 installed on my computer
[23:28] <macarno30> vista is boring
[23:28] <plouffe_> How can I change the title, album, etc info of an audio file?
[23:28] <noisan> When it upgraded to KDE4 it left KDE3.5.10 installed on the computer
[23:28] <Hentay> lsh-server and openssh-server :D and which i need? :D
[23:28] <shane2peru> Dominik1: ha ha, :)  dual booting, hmm, I did it with XP, but you shouldn't have any problems with Vista
[23:28] <noisan> so now when I enter kcontrol it edits the properties for KDE3.5.10 but I obviously want it to work with KDE4
[23:28] <administrator> hi,how go to ubuntu in the vmware?
[23:28] <zsquareplusc> TwoD: my back button ( i dont have fwd) worked as back button. but i swapped wheel button with the thumb button now. dfo you want to map the "free" buttons to specific functions?
[23:28] <noisan> My question is how do i completly remove KDE3.5.10?
[23:28] <BULLE_> noisan: afaik kcontrol isnt used in kde4
[23:28] <Dominik1> when I instaled over XP it was very smooth and just installed ubuntu, xp was still fine, it will work the same way with XP I suppose?
[23:28] <BULLE_> noisan: so run the kde4 config app instead
[23:29] <mhall119> Dominik1: I would assume so
[23:29] <plouffe_> How can I change the title, album, etc info of an audio file?
[23:29] <ardchoille> noisan: kde4 doesn't use kcontrol, the kcmshell modules are handled differently with kde4
[23:29] <noisan> BULLE_: but there are some theme properties in that are in kcontrol that doesn't exist in system settings?
[23:29] <Hentay> and there is no manuals for it :/
[23:29] <Dominik1> alright, thanks guys, just know if I install ubuntu and vista stops working my GF will chop of my nuts
[23:29] <shane2peru> Dominik1: have you had vista very long and used it?
[23:30] <BULLE_> noisan: might be, i havent used 3.x for a long time
[23:30] <PeskyJ> I think the 300G drive should be the first
[23:30] <noisan> ardchoille: that means that themes that were designed for KDE3 won't work in KDE4?
[23:30] <shane2peru> Dominik1: you may need to ahh, forgot the work, diskmaintenence, de-fragment the drive.
[23:30] <Dominik1> shane2peru: I refuse to use such shit, have you looked into the structure of vista
[23:30] <unop> plouffe_, use a tag editor
[23:30] <noisan> BULLE_: But is there any method to completly uninstall KDE3.5.10?
[23:30] <TwoD> zsquareplusc, I need them to work as normal back/forward buttons, as is done automatically in Windows, but only works in Firefox under Ubuntu. oh btw. I generated my xorg.conf using nvidia-settings, it added default CorePointer/CoreKeyboard input sections, but I guess I can remove those, right?
[23:30] <plouffe_> unop:  such as?
[23:30] <unop> Dominik1, language.
[23:30] <PeskyJ> but should I install ubuntu without the windows drive in and then add it later, or should I put both drives then install ubuntu?
[23:30] <Dominik1> unop: sorry
[23:30] <shane2peru> Dominik1: language please, I agree, though, just wipe it then, that is what I did.
[23:30] <ardchoille> noisan: the settings are done differently. you should ask in #kubuntu
[23:31] <shane2peru> Dominik1: are you working on a laptop?
[23:31] <unop> plouffe_, exfalso, cowbell, kid3, etc - you'll find loads if you search for "tag editor" in synaptic or so
[23:31] <Hentay> ok guys... good night :)
[23:31] <test_> huh
[23:31] <Dominik1> shane2peru: yes I am, I can't wipe, GF demands that Vista stays intact, just in case something doesn't work with Ubuntu
[23:31] <noisan> I am running low on HD-space and would therefore like to free-up as much as possible. And I don't like having things I don't use laying around on the ocmputer.
[23:31] <esac> i built a custom kernel on intrepid, and now my keyboard and mouse do not work in X. they work in console. any ideas ?
[23:31] <newton> test_: #ubuntu-nl
[23:32] <Hentay> #ubuntu-lt
[23:32] <shane2peru> Dominik1: is it a new laptop?  What brand?
[23:32] <ping2> is there any way to tell from command line if my network card is connected at 10mbps or 100mbps?
[23:32] <djhash> PeskyJ: keep the windows drive in.. ubuntu will see its a windows and add it to grub
[23:32] <Dominik1> shane2peru: Sonly V series
[23:32] <shane2peru> Dominik1: hmm, not real familiar with that one, have you tried the liveCD?
[23:32] <unop> ping2, sure, see the documentation for ethtool
[23:32] <zsquareplusc> TwoD: well i don't know. my config does not have these sections anymore. i'd back up the xorg.conf file anyway, so you can easily roll back in case of troubles
[23:32] <Dominik1> shane2peru: good idea, I will do that
[23:32] <mhall119> anybody here ever make their own LiveCD?
[23:33] <PeskyJ> djhash: ok great :) that's perfect.
[23:33] <test_> exit
[23:33] <shane2peru> Dominik1:  just make sure your sound works, your network, probably wireless won't, make sure your video card is ok etc.
[23:33] <djhash> PeskyJ: dont change the setup of the drives.. its better to keep it the way windows recognize it.. although i dont think there will be a problem if you switch the order..
[23:33] <mynous> how can i figure out what nic i have or driver at least?

[23:33] <mhall119> mynous: lspci will list all your pci hardware
[23:33] <ping2> unop, great thanks, that worked perfectly :)
[23:33] <mynous> thx
[23:33] <Dominik1> shane2peru: why would wireless not work? that just takes an internet connection and some updateing
[23:34] <shane2peru> Dominik1: it usually does work after some tinkering
[23:34] <mhall119> mynous: lsmod will tell you what kernel modules are loaded too
[23:34] <evan_> can someone tell my why to do if svg images have te same id's ?
[23:34] <Dominik1> man is it normal that Ubuntu has like 10 updates every day
[23:34] <olskolirc> can someone tell me the format to change my clock to regular 12 hour time instead of military time?  Hardy Heron
[23:34] <mhall119> Dominik1: at the beginning of a new release, yes
[23:34] <evan_> no there is just a new distro
[23:34] <djhash> Dominik1: if you have the 8.10 then its normal
[23:34] <mhall119> olskolirc: in Gnome?
[23:34] <olskolirc> kubuntu mhall119
[23:34] <TwoD> zsquareplusc, does your ServerLayout section mention InputDevices?
[23:34] <Dominik1> these updates really bog me down, I only have 480 ram, limited resources can't handle the update process
[23:34] <jrib> olskolirc: right click on the time applet in your panel and go to preferences
[23:35] <mhall119> olskolirc: then I don't know, doesn't KDE provide an option when you right-click the clock?
[23:35] <PeskyJ> djhash: I might want to remove the windows drive completely later on, so I'm hoping I can easily do that and the 300G drive will still boot to ubuntu
[23:35] <Socapex_2K> Hey, can we update to 8.10 from ubuntu. Or do I have to boot from burned CD
[23:35] <shane2peru> anyone have any ideas on setting up a very new sound card?
[23:35] <Dominik1> alright guys, thanks for the advice, ill be out for now
[23:35] <olskolirc> adjust time and date yes, but what is the format that i need to type in to get 12 time
[23:35] <russ> For some reason I can not mount my hard drives: any suggestions?
[23:35] <mhall119> Socapex_2K: you should be able to upgrade from 8.04
[23:35] <esac> i built a custom kernel on intrepid, and now my keyboard and mouse do not work in X. they work in console. any ideas ?
[23:35] <unop> olskolirc, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=190051
[23:35] <shane2peru> Socapex_2K: it is a good idea to have a CD burned, and downloaded, however you should be able to upgrade
[23:35] <jrib> olskolirc: it is there in preferences...
[23:35] <kimus> hi, i'm compiling a module from ubuntu source and build fine. but when I do a insmod it gives me a " -1 Invalid module format"
[23:36] <djhash> PeskyJ: then make sure grub gets installed in the 300G drive..
[23:36] <mhall119> olskolirc: is there a format string there for the 24-hour format?
[23:36] <zsquareplusc> TwoD: no, they were commented out
[23:36] <evilspawn4> hey can someone help me find a version of java for ubuntu 8.10? im kinda now to linux and i dont know where to go for one
[23:36] <unop> !java > evilspawn4
[23:36] <jrib> olskolirc: note that I said "preferences" and you said "adjust date and time"
[23:36] <maxxist> evil spawn4 there should be one in synaptic
[23:36] <Socapex_2K> hmmm... Would I use the normal update tool for that?
[23:36] <Socapex_2K> or apt-get
[23:36] <evilspawn4> thanks
[23:36] <olskolirc> I right click the clock and go to date and time format and im at the date and time tab
[23:36] <TwoD> zsquareplusc, ok, thanks!
[23:36] <jrib> !who | olskolirc
[23:36] <djhash> Socapex_2K: you can do a dist upgrade
[23:36] <olskolirc> i changed it from HH:MM:SS to hh:mm:ss and its still military time
[23:36] <djhash> !dist-upgrade
[23:37] <Socapex_2K> ok!
[23:37] <mhall119> evilspawn4: both openJDK 6 and Sun JDK 6 are in the repositories
[23:37] <Socapex_2K> thanks
[23:37] <shane2peru> jrib: you got any ideas on setting up sound, or where to get some help for that?
[23:37] <Guest26287> Hi, I've downloaded a package. Where is better to keep it? /usr/bin ?
[23:37] <unop> olskolirc, pH:MM:SS AMPM
[23:37] <robocop1532> I need help recovering my ttys.  I am logged into ubto gui, but I cant switch to any of the tty(1-7).
[23:37] <shane2peru> Guest26287: in your /home/username
[23:37] <eraggo> and if you are too lazy: Alt+F2 -> update-manager -d
[23:37] <mhall119> Guest26287: what kind of package?
[23:37] <jrib> shane2peru: not really.  I can point you to the wiki
[23:37] <jrib> !sound > shane2peru
[23:37] <Guest26287> shane2peru: Thanks
[23:38] <stage3> russ could you be more specific? how did you try to do it ?
[23:38] <evilspawn4> i installed one from the add/remove but java still doesnt work on my pc if thats what you were talking about by repositories mhall199
[23:38] <shane2peru> jrib: that is outdated, to my knowledge, has sound setup changed in 8.10?
[23:38] <icqnumber> The playback of this movie requires a Windows Media RTP depayloader plugin which is not installed. what package is that?
[23:38] <jrib> shane2peru: no idea
[23:38] <Socapex_2K> eraggo: maybe I am too lazy, lol
[23:38] <mhall119> evilspawn, type "java -version" from the command line and tell me what you get
[23:38] <eraggo> :D
[23:38] <bakarat> how hard is it to set up 2 (different) nvidia cards & 3 (different) screens on ubuntu 8.10?
[23:38] <russ> stage3: I go to places and then select my "media" drive and I can not access it
[23:39] <mhall119> evilspawn4: or are you talking about Java applets in Firefox?
[23:39] <eraggo> bakarat: why would you make that ?
[23:39] <evilspawn4> yea
[23:39] <iandan> mhall119: Eclipse
[23:39] <deftone> Looking to buy the HP DV5-1125NR and it's got the ATI RADEON HD 3200 graphics RS780M. Does anyone know if Ubuntu Hardy supports this chip??
[23:39] <bakarat> eraggo: um, i need more screen real estate? :>
[23:39] <evilspawn4> i think
[23:39] <mhall119> bakarat: should be easy, but nVidia needs to update their drivers
[23:39] <eraggo> :D
[23:39] <stage3> russ, you have to be root to do it
[23:39] <mhall119> iandan: what?
[23:39] <PeskyJ> I'm running the live session, about to do the install, I just want to check that the 64-bittedness is working ok, because I'm using the amd64 version... how can I check?
[23:39] <zsquareplusc> bakarat: i dont know. but the nvidia-setup tool helps setting up multiple screens. i dont know if it works with more than once card too.
[23:39] <stage3> russ or mount it with sudo command
[23:39] <djhash> bakarat: can you give me a monitor? i need more screen real estate!!! :-p
[23:39] <mneptok> deftone: what will you be using this machine for?
[23:40] <bakarat> djhash: hehe :p
[23:40] <shane2peru> PeskyJ: I'm running 64bit, works fine here.
[23:40] <evilspawn4> ill just try installing all of the ones when i type in java in the search (unless that will hurt my pc if it will someone please tell me in red text)
[23:40] <russ> I have to run as root user: how do I make myself root by default?
[23:40] <shane2peru> PeskyJ: not sure what you are asking
[23:40] <Socapex_2K> any chance of seeing GRUB2 soon?
[23:40] <mhall119> evilspawn4: dont do that
[23:40] <deftone> mneptok: WoW mostly...
[23:40] <eraggo> i THINK that i use 64 bit also.....
[23:40] <ping2> !sudo | russ
[23:40] <mhall119> evilspawn4: first let's see what you already have installed
[23:40] <iandan> mhall119: You asked what kind of package. I was Guest*
[23:40] <evilspawn4> oh ok
[23:40] <zsquareplusc> eraggo: check with uname -a
[23:40] <bakarat> btw, also, are there any known problems with HDMI connections? (doubt it but just checking)
[23:40] <eraggo> ah
[23:40] <mhall119> iandan, keep it under your home directory then
[23:40] <evilspawn4> sun java 6 runtime
[23:40] <djhash> evilspawn4: just fyi.. red text is someone adding your name in the message.. check !who
[23:40] <kanuha> I removed the menu bar and added a main menu to the panel, I went into the configuration editor and clicked use custom icon, changed object type to menu-object and added the path of the custom icon, but the icon does not change
[23:40] <bakarat> the last monitor i hooked up had some problems with gfx being rendered outside the screen, but this was apparantly hardware related to the screen
[23:40] <woozzy> hi has anyone go the xbox webcam working on ubuntu?
[23:41] <PeskyJ> well just some info that says all the memory is there and the cpu is in 64-bit mode (or whatever, I don't really get the difference tbh)
[23:41] <mhall119> evilspawn4: then you have Java, what's not working?
[23:41] <mneptok> deftone: so why do you care about Ubuntu? ;)
[23:41] <iandan> mhall119: OK. Thank you too!
[23:41] <stage3> russ , perhaps if the user belong to the root group o media
[23:41] <evilspawn4> well 2 things WoW patchnotes in wine and runescape
[23:41] <eraggo> zsquareplusc:  2.6.27-7-generic #1 SMP Tue Nov 4 19:33:20 UTC 2008 i686 GNU/Linux
[23:41] <amews_aj> Just reinstalled ubuntu 8.10. Tried to find compizconfig in synaptic, but wasn't there. Did update etc. still not there. apt-get install comp.... works. Still not visible though, how to get it there?
[23:41] <zsquareplusc> PeskyJ: whyt cpu do you have? 64 bits works frin on core duo for example
[23:41] <robocop1532> I need help recovering my ttys.  I am logged into ubto gui, but I cant switch to any of the tty(1-7).
[23:41] <deftone> mneptok: i'm learning linux
[23:41] <mneptok> deftone: did Blizzard release a Linux port while i was alseep? :)
[23:41] <stage3> russ, that is a permission problem
[23:41] <jrib> !ccsm | amews_aj
[23:41] <zsquareplusc> eraggo: youre running 32 bit (i686)
[23:41] <mhall119> evilspawn4: it may not be Java that's the problem, but lack of OpenGL acceleration
[23:41] <mneptok> deftone: from what i hear, WoW and "learning" are mutually exclusive pursuits :)
[23:41] <eraggo> :/
[23:42] <PeskyJ> zsquareplusc: it's an athlon64 x2 6000+
[23:42] <eraggo> darn
[23:42] <deftone> i'm stlll keeping my vista partition....but i want to install ubuntu on another partition
[23:42] <chris1> anyone install a eggdrop bot on base unbuntu server?
[23:42] <jrib> amews_aj: or by "there" do you mean "synaptic"?
[23:42] <chris1> im having a problem locating libtcl.so and i have tcl instaleld
[23:42] <evilspawn4> mhall199: what is OpenGL?
[23:42] <amews_aj> jrib: I know that, but it is hidden from the synaptic, that is my problem, I know how to install manually
[23:42] <mneptok> deftone: stick with Intel graphics and wireless when using Linux (for now)
[23:42] <amews_aj> jrib: yes
[23:42] <jrib> chris1: eggdrop is in the repositories
[23:42] <maxxist> deftone do you have another empty partition?
[23:42] <deftone> but i was curious if i was gonna be able to run compizf
[23:42] <giusef> Hi all. can anyone help me configuring an ad-hoc wifi network?
[23:42] <mhall119> evilspawn4: that's the language you video card uses to draw 3D graphics
[23:42] <shane2peru> deftone: if you want to learn ubuntu, just drop in the ubuntu CD while booted into Vista, and install it that way.
[23:43] <zsquareplusc> PeskyJ: that should work fine. but be prepared that not all software is also easily available in 64 bits, such as flash plugin. there are solutions but its more works as when you run 32 bits
[23:43] <mhall119> Java speaks OpenGL to the video card when the driver supports it
[23:43] <ping2> !ask | giusef
[23:43] <evilspawn4> mhall199: i know thats not it cuz java works fine in windows vista
[23:43] <mhall119> WoW and Runescape probably both need that
[23:43] <shane2peru> deftone: seems to work well, and lets you boot into Ubuntu when you reboot.
[23:43] <deftone> i can't run 8.10 and compiz on what i have now...which is intel gm965
[23:43] <jrib> amews_aj: check your filters for search maybe
[23:43] <eraggo> mhall119: rs works on me :)
[23:43] <stage3> russ, if you wan to  mount it always, you have to add it in the  fstab file
[23:43] <mhall119> evilspawn4: Java supports OpenGL if the graphics card driver supports it, but the linux driver for your card may not support it
[23:43] <sebsebseb> Socapex_2K: it's in the repo
[23:43] <chris1> jrib: just under 'eggdrop'?
[23:43] <amews_aj> jrib: Everything set to all
[23:43] <shane2peru> deftone: ?  is the intelgm965 blacklisted?
[23:43] <mneptok> deftone: Compiz and my GMA965 are quite happy together
[23:43] <mhall119> evilspawn4: what kind of graphics card do you have?
[23:44] <deftone> they blacklisted intel's gm965
[23:44] <maxxist> deftone that should be able  run compiz
[23:44] <giusef> ping2: I asked for a step-by-step help
[23:44] <amews_aj> jrib: also problem with other stuff such as nvidia-glx-96
[23:44] <jrib> !info eggdrop | chris1, yes
[23:44] <chris1> dope
[23:44] <chris1> thanks
[23:44] <amews_aj> jrib: A lot seems to be missing in manager since reinstall
[23:44] <deftone> mneptok: are u on intrepid??
[23:44] <eraggo> time to visit outside...
[23:44] <TheDeepFriedBoo> Hi, Does anyone know when that issue with 8.10 not running laptop fans is going to get fixed? I am tired of my laptop overheating
[23:44] <evilspawn4> mhal119: geforce 7600GS
[23:44] <shane2peru> deftone: you should be fine I would think, generally the intel cards play nice with linux
[23:44] <mneptok> deftone: no, Hardy
[23:44] <crdlb> deftone: are you using that system with intrepid now?
[23:44] <PeskyJ> zsquareplusc: ok.. so flash plugin doesn't work in 64-bit mode?
[23:44] <mhall119> evilspawn4: and you;re running Intrepid 8.10?
[23:44] <mneptok> deftone: there's no reason you can;t run Hardy
[23:44] <rabe> i need some help with my notebook please... it's only running in half speed it seems...
[23:44] <deftone> i'm on hardy too.....and i can run compiz...no i'm using this system with hardy
[23:44] <maxxist> deftone also compiz should run without installing any drivers on a 965
[23:44] <evilspawn4> mhall199: yes
[23:44] <russ> stage3: what is the fstab file? geez linux has some terms to learn
[23:44] <amdpox> gma950 works smooth for compiz in intrepid here
[23:45] <mneptok> deftone: ever played EVE:online?
[23:45] <giusef> ping2: ping
[23:45] <mhall119> evilspawn4: do you have Compiz working?
[23:45] <djhash> !info fstab
[23:45] <shane2peru> rabe: how much ram do you have?
[23:45] <jrib> amews_aj: I've seen someone else have the same problem.  I don't know though since I can't duplicate it here.  Tried hitting reload? Does it say "rebuilding index"?
[23:45] <deftone> not on intrepid.....compiz doesn't work with intrepid
[23:45] <evilspawn4> mhall119: yes works like a dream ^_^
[23:45] <shane2peru> rabe: did you setup swapspace?
[23:45] <amews_aj> jrib: Yes it does.
[23:45] <No-Neck> russ, fstab lists all the filesystems to mount
[23:45] <mhall119> evilspawn4: then the driver supports OpenGL, not sure what problem Java is having
[23:45] <zsquareplusc> PeskyJ: not sure, i dont think so. there is an open source flash player that is and there are other ways
[23:45] <sebsebseb> TheDeepFriedBoo: not  heard of that issue, how old is the lap top
[23:45] <jrib> amews_aj: I'd try giving it some time to let it finish then
[23:45] <stage3> russ the fstab file said to linux what partition to mount when it init
[23:46] <amews_aj> jrib: I did
[23:46] <amews_aj> jrib: Strange, I already did that 5 times or so, now I did it again, now they show up.
[23:46] <evilspawn4> mhall119: well i had the same problem with playing wmv files in firefox for awhile but then it all of a sudden fixed itself overnight lol
[23:46] <mhall119> evilspawn4: try running WoW or Runescape from the command line.  I remember FreeCol using Java, but it was hard-coded to look for it in a path where it wasn't installed
[23:46] <PeskyJ> zsquareplusc: ok.. what do I lose by installing the i386 version instead then? will it be much slower?
[23:46] <ping2> giusef, have you seen https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Adhoc ?
[23:46] <neuton> Executable is not TorrentFlux-bundled transmissioncli...can there be a problem with this version of transmission?? I have the torrentflux-b4rt beta2 installed?? should I stay with ubuntu server 7.10 and not do the upgrade to get this issue fixed?
[23:46] <TheDeepFriedBoo> sebsebseb: several month old HP dv6000
[23:46] <sdfsdf> hi all
[23:46] <neuton> I have the client pointed to /usr/bin/transmissioncli...and I get that error..I also have torrentflux-b4rt beta2 installed
[23:46] <Socapex_2K> eraggo: You forgot to tell I had to enable "normal releases" in admin>software sources (update tab)
[23:46] <evilspawn4> mhall119: cant run wow right now its patching but ill try runescape...1 sec
[23:47] <zsquareplusc> PeskyJ: hm at least the package is now there for 64 bits too. but i font have it installed (flashplugin-nonfree)
[23:47] <TheDeepFriedBoo> sebsebseb: There are several of us at my work having the issue
[23:47] <Socapex_2K> eraggo: It's running now :)
[23:47] <moDumass> morning all, the onlky res available in xserver settings manager is 640x480 and it sees my 19inch widescreen as a crt0 and i cant seem to change anything back to 1440x900 any ideas in this field>
[23:47] <im-pol> hi
[23:47] <kri> hi i want to grab all images from a http site what program should i use?
[23:47] <sebsebseb> TheDeepFriedBoo: so not even a year old?
[23:47] <stage3> russ look ta http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=283131
[23:47] <moDumass> kri downthemall its a plugin for firefox
[23:47] <jrib> kri: wget
[23:47] <russ> stage3: thx dude
[23:47] <esac> i built a custom kernel on intrepid, and now my keyboard and mouse do not work in X. they work in console. any ideas ?
[23:47] <zsquareplusc> PeskyJ: it may even be faster. you will be happier with 64 bits if you have more than 3 or 4 GB of RAM. otherwise, i dont think that you gain much
[23:47] <No-Neck> OK now I have a question :p - my lighttpd set up is not serving up PHP files, it's offering them for download, I've tried setting it to /usr/bin/php-cgi and /usr/bin/php5-cgi, any other suggestions please?
[23:47] <moDumass> kri you can set it to grab certain media
[23:47] <sebsebseb> TheDeepFriedBoo: more than one lap top with the same issue?
[23:47] <Shadow_X> 8.10 is Intrepid Ibex, right?
[23:47] <ping2> moDumass, what is your video card?
[23:47] <mhall119> I'm still looking for someone who can help me with a customized LiveCD, anyone here?
[23:47] <TheDeepFriedBoo> sebsebseb: Nope, several people at my job are having the issue, there have been reports of it with other users as well
[23:48] <ping2> Shadow_X, yup
[23:48] <Shadow_X> k thanks ping2
[23:48] <moDumass> ping2 nvidia fx5950ultra
[23:48] <giusef> ping2: thanks for the link
[23:48] <im-pol> anybody can help me about installing Warcraft 3
[23:48] <icqnumber>  Missing plugin: gstreamer|0.10|totem|Windows Media RTP depayloader|decoder-application/x-rtp, what package do i miss?
[23:48] <rabe> i need some help with my notebook please... it's only running in half speed it seems...
[23:48] <moDumass> ping2 this change jsut happened, no updates or anything
[23:48] <sebsebseb> TheDeepFriedBoo:   try Ubuntu hardy?   from Live CD and if that works :D
[23:48] <mhall119> rabe, is it running on battery?
[23:48] <robocop1532> How do I specify how a tty displays? mine don't seem to display at all after reconfiguring X
[23:49] <mynous> is there a reason to run a nic with auto-neg=off?
[23:49] <moDumass> ping2 desktop stopped responding, restarted and im in 640x480 land
[23:49] <evilspawn4> mhall199: well i tried running RS and it didnt work...i even looked in my firefox plugins for java and didnt find it
[23:49] <TheDeepFriedBoo> sebsebseb: 8.04 works fine, its some sort of kernel issue with the way the kernel handles the fan
[23:49] <ping2> No-Neck, maybe ask in #lighttpd
[23:49] <jrib> moDumass: did you try that setting I mentioned earlier to xorg.conf?
[23:49] <neuton> Executable is not TorrentFlux-bundled transmissioncli...can there be a problem with this version of transmission?? I have the torrentflux-b4rt beta2 installed?? should I stay with ubuntu server 7.10 and not do the upgrade to get this issue fixed?
[23:49] <stage3> rabe  what laptop have you got?
[23:49] <neuton> I have the client pointed to /usr/bin/transmissioncli...and I get that error..I also have torrentflux-b4rt beta2 installed
[23:49] <mhall119> evilspawn4: are you on 32 or 64 bit?
[23:49] <EruditeHermit> hi, can someone help me with scanning? My scanner used to work with hardy, but in Intrepid, xsane crashes when I try to scan
[23:49] <No-Neck> oh, didn't know it existed, cheers ping2  :D
[23:49] <im-pol> anybody help me about wine
[23:49] <PeskyJ> zsquareplusc: ok I'll check it out, I have 4GB RAM
[23:49] <kri> moDumass: well their most be some program for it, if i have all urls containg pictures
[23:49] <evilspawn4> mhall119: 32 bit
[23:49] <im-pol> ?
[23:49] <ping2> moDumass, do you have restricted drivers enabled / installed?
[23:49] <ping2> !nvidia | moDumass
[23:50] <alriken> hi everyone :)
[23:50] <sebsebseb> TheDeepFriedBoo: well  have you got any  advantages in  Ibex over hardy?
[23:50] <jrib> No-Neck: clear the cache in your browser, restart your server
[23:50] <TheDeepFriedBoo> sebsebseb: Here is the bug report but so far not much is happening, "https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/256299"
[23:50] <zsquareplusc> PeskyJ: i run 64 bits too. and if i need to run 32 bit software, i have installed a chroot. that uses some disk space but i can have both words at once :-)
[23:50] <mhall119> evilspawn4: do you get any error messages?
[23:51] <evilspawn4> no
[23:51] <mhall119> what does it do?
[23:51] <moDumass> ping2, theres nothing wrong with the driver, i still have compiz running, which is random, emerald is still doing its thing too
[23:51] <evilspawn4> mhall119: no it just says i dont have java
[23:51] <ping2> giusef, sure, if there are any problems then ask :)
[23:51] <zelrikriando> I remember submitting bug reports to OO.org
[23:51] <neuton> Executable is not TorrentFlux-bundled transmissioncli...can there be a problem with this version of transmission?? I have the torrentflux-b4rt beta2 installed?? should I stay with ubuntu server 7.10 and not do the upgrade to get this issue fixed?
[23:51] <jrib> kri: I gave you a program
[23:51] <neuton> I have the client pointed to /usr/bin/transmissioncli...and I get that error..I also have torrentflux-b4rt beta2 installed
[23:51] <PeskyJ> zsquareplusc: cool
[23:51] <zelrikriando> nothing never got fixed
[23:51] <jrib> !repeat | neuton
[23:51] <mhall119> evilspawn4: how familiar are you with shell script?
[23:51] <ikaruga2099> hi
[23:51] <kri> jrib: yeah wget then i have to to scripts for it to get the what i want
[23:51] <jrib> kri: huh?
[23:52] <kri> jrib: but i will try the firefox plugin
[23:52] <ikaruga2099> hi mclfy11
[23:52] <ping2> moDumass, hmm, do you have the nvidia x config panel installed?
[23:52] <kri> i go strait ahead i want all the pictures from (http://skins.be)
[23:52] <sebsebseb> TheDeepFriedBoo:  as  expected the Ubuntu  developers are not  kernel develoeprs as we  your issue may never get fixed
[23:52] <evilspawn4> mhall199: never heard of it
[23:52] <jrib> kri: you said you had a file with the URLS.  Just feed it to wget (hint, see what the -i switch is for)
[23:52] <evilspawn4> mhall199: unless its that stuff you type in the terminal
[23:52] <moDumass> ping2 i do
[23:52] <martin_> Hi, new to Ubuntu, hope someone can help me with an install question
[23:52] <kri> i actually dont have a file with the urls i need a program to generate it
[23:52] <neuton> Executable is not TorrentFlux-bundled transmissioncli...can there be a problem with this version of transmission?? I have the torrentflux-b4rt beta2 installed?? should I stay with ubuntu server 7.10 and not do the upgrade to get this issue fixed?
[23:52] <neuton> I have the client pointed to /usr/bin/transmissioncli...and I get that error..I also have torrentflux-b4rt beta2 installed
[23:53] <jrib> !who | kri
[23:53] <No-Neck> done many times jrib thanks for the advice though
[23:53] <jrib> neuton: stop repeating please...
[23:53] <TheDeepFriedBoo> sebsebseb: That sucks, im tired of having my laptop crash, I have to use vista for class since I need something reliable
[23:53] <kri> jrib: i actually dont have a file with the urls i need a program to generate it *
[23:53] <moDumass> and in there its recognising my lcd as a crappy crt and only giving me 640x480
[23:53] <shane2peru> !universe > rabe
[23:53] <neuton> ok
[23:53] <evilspawn4> mhall119: never heard of it unless its the stuff you type in the terminal
[23:53] <zsquareplusc> TheDeepFriedBoo: did you check if there is a bug report in launchpad? if not, make one :-)
[23:53] <jrib> kri: then checkout the -A and -r options for wget
[23:53] <Varanger> Is something happening with ATI cards and Xv ?
[23:54] <martin_> How do I install Ubuntu on my MacBook Air (without a CD drive!) ? - I have created an extra partition on my Mac but I need a way to get the install going
[23:54] <robocop1532> is there a config file for the ttys?
[23:54] <jrib> neuton: I've read your question about 3 times now and still have no clue what is wrong anway
[23:54] <dingupenguin> ello everyone
[23:54] <jrib> robocop1532: what do you want to configure?
[23:54] <alriken> i have a problem with my sound card and ubuntu hardy with teamspeak, everything works fine atm but when i talk at teamspeak i get an everlasting echo an it seems my listen device will transsmit everything to my capture device, but only with teamspeak :/ anyone had same probs or an suggestion? i have the problematic intel chip onboard :(
[23:55] <robocop1532> jrib: anything...they don't display.  I can only use the gui
[23:55] <ardchoille> robocop1532: did you install nvidia drivers?
[23:55] <dingupenguin> does anyone have asus p5n-e sli
[23:55] <jrib> martin_: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/How%20to%20install%20Ubuntu%20on%20MacBook%20Air%20using%20live%20CD
[23:56] <robocop1532> ardchoille: nope. I have been trying to get compiz to work, and succeded (and lost my ttys) but my video card is an intel
[23:56] <neuton> well I followed a guide to installe torrentflux-b4rt and I did what it said but I get that error when setting up transmissioncli for the client?
[23:56] <ardchoille> robocop1532: ah, ok
[23:56] <GodfatherofEire> Havin a few problems with Banshee at the moment, it keeps crashing every time I plug in my ZEN, any ideas?
[23:56] <jrib> martin_: sorry, that assumes a cd drive...
[23:56] <linkmaster03> After I connected another monitor to my computer and set it up, then unplugged it and rebooted, compiz is not running (no shadows, window animations, alt+tab) How do I get it running?
[23:56] <martin_> jrib: thanks, but...
[23:56] <martin_> yes, exactly :)
[23:56] <mhall119> evilspawn4: sorry, had to run off for a bit
[23:56] <jrib> !install > martin_
[23:56] <mhall119> you still here?
[23:56] <z987k> are the repos down right now or somthing?
[23:56] <jrib> martin_: I guess installing from a usb key should work
[23:56] <neuton> the only thing I did a little different was after I installed ubuntu server 7.10 I updated/upgraded the files
[23:56] <evilspawn4> mhall119: thats fine and no ive never heard of it
[23:57] <dingupenguin> does anyone have asus p5n-e sli
[23:57] <moDumass> jrb2, sorry its recognising my lcd as a crappy crt and only giving me 640x480 in xconfig manager
[23:57] <linkmaster03> z987k: no they are up
[23:57] <mhall119> evilspawn, it's like programming code
[23:57] <electro> I installed 8.10 on a 4gb Kingston USB Flash drive from the live cd and when I boot to the USB Flash Drive it says invalid or damaged partition, any suggestions?
[23:57] <evilspawn4> mhall119: i think it would just be easier to install all of em and make sure that i don't install 2 of the same thing
[23:57] <z987k> hmm, got a new netbook and I get a 404 on all the hardy repos
[23:58] <BULLE_> electro: just use the app that comes with 8.10 that creates a live flash drive for you ?
[23:58] <dingupenguin> does anyone have asus p5n-e sli
[23:58] <z987k> but internet etc is fine
[23:58] <jrib> dingupenguin: best to just ask the channel your question.  If someone knows the answer, they will try to answer you
[23:58] <mhall119> evilspawn4: I think the problem is that WoW and Runescape are looking for Java to be installed in the wrong place
[23:58] <martin_> my Mac is to new to boot from usb sadly :(
[23:58] <electro> yeah that is what I tried, I installed it from the option under the administration option on the live cd
[23:58] <TIMREICHHART> can somebody telling me why im getting this : AvantFAX database is DOWN
[23:58] <jrib> z987k: archive.ubuntu.com in your browser does not give you a 404?
[23:58] <mhall119> evilspawn4: if that is the problem, installing everything else won't fix it
[23:58] <evilspawn4> but shouldnt it be in my browser plugins?
[23:58] <z987k> nope
[23:59] <jrib> z987k: echo $http_proxy
[23:59] <J2daosh> what was the link to fixing the atheros wireless card?
[23:59] <jrib> !who | z987k
[23:59] <mhall119> evilspawn4: it should be, yes, the fact that it's not makes me think something else is going on
[23:59] <J2daosh> my hardware drivers says it is loaded and supported, yet it doesn't activate it and it doesn't pick up wireless signals
[23:59] <neuton> is there a way to see what version of transmissioncli I have installed and/or what are available in the repos...since the torrentflux-b4rt says that its not a bundled software?


[00:31] <budd> I am brand new to linux... is this the right channel or do I need to go elswhere? Pretty new to chat too.  Thanks
[00:32] <budd> I just installed xubuntu and now I have no sound
[00:32] <budd> it is not muted
[00:33] <budd> ok reckon wrong spot
[04:53] <phenom> Continuing on a previous concern; would anyone have any idea why "Software Updater" would omit updates that both synaptic and apt-get display?
[04:54] <phenom> When I apt-get, I see 9 updates that are not available to Software Updater.
[04:56] <phenom> I see the following updates: The following packages will be upgraded:
[04:56] <phenom>   init init-system-helpers libnm-glib-vpn1 libnm-glib4 libnm-util2 libnm0
[04:56] <phenom>   network-manager xserver-common xserver-xorg-core
[07:18] <xubuntu45i> h
[09:06] <nuxil> hello.
[09:06] <nuxil> any editors that you guys reccomend?
[09:07] <nuxil> something along notepad++
[09:07] <nuxil> but for xubuntu
[09:08] <nuxil> i know of kate and gedit. but i dont want alot of kde and gnome crap on my pc
[09:12] <nuxil> oh.. there is a editor called mousepad.. how stupid isnt that.. its so obviouse that its a editor by its name :p
[09:13] <akxwi-dave> lol.. quite a good little text editor as well
[09:16] <nuxil> it seems ok.  i dont need anything fance
[09:16] <nuxil> i would reccomend a name change tho :p
[10:22] <MoL0ToV> i have a problem, when i connect my usb stick ntfs formatted i cannot write files on it, the message is "read only". howto fix?
[10:25] <bazhang> MoL0ToV, does it work on other pc
[10:26] <MoL0ToV> i have no one to try
[10:27] <bazhang> I have only seen that on a non cleanly removed stick, or one that is near dead
[10:27] <bazhang> why would you have ntfs on a usb stick
[10:29] <MoL0ToV> to write files bigger than 4GB and read on windows
[10:30] <MoL0ToV> i just formatted using mkfs.ntfs -f /dev/sdb1
[10:30] <bazhang> does it work with windows computeres then
[10:33] <MoL0ToV> i resolved mounting the usb key on another ubuntu 14.04 x86 pc
[10:33] <MoL0ToV> now works also on x86_64 ubuntu 16.04
[10:33] <MoL0ToV> mistery
[10:34] <bazhang> then you are good to go
[10:35] <MoL0ToV> creating a directory on usb key works but if i cut and paste some files don't work sayn "read only"
[10:35] <MoL0ToV> i try to reboot
[10:38] <MoL0ToV> a reboot solved the problem
[10:38] <MoL0ToV> thx
[10:39] <bazhang> ok
[12:45] <splashing> best
[12:45] <splashing> ever
[17:45] <SlabDabs> Sweet, I figured there would be a Xubuntu specific channel
[17:53] <pavlushka> SlabDabs: \o/
[17:55] <SlabDabs> Hey
[18:15] <General> hi
[18:16] <Guest76547> i would like to ask you for help with new instalation of xubungu 16.4
[18:16] <Guest76547> my sound card is not working
[18:16] <Guest76547> are there any drivers available?
[18:25] <Guest76547> hi sjoshi
[18:25] <sjoshi> Guest76547: Hello
[18:25] <Guest76547> i need help with sound driver. do you think you can help me, please?
[18:28] <sjoshi> Guest76547: I suggest asking in this channel itself, you will get help from the community. I will surely try to help
[18:28] <sjoshi> will also*
[18:31] <Guest76547> i updated yesterday xubuntu to 16.4 on my Asus Eee "rocket" machine and finally, sound doesnt work
[18:31] <Guest76547> i am searching any drivers, but up to now without any success
[18:34] <krytarik> Guest76547: Try in #ubuntu as well on that, btw.
[18:40] <SlabDabs> Guest76547: Hmmm not totally sure, have you looked up people with issues on similar devices?
[18:41] <SlabDabs> not sure if the last reply here will help or apply https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2182364


[10:36] <Riddell> sebas: what's the hack you use for using kpowersave with suspend2?
[10:48] <sebas> Riddell: I put sudo hibernate in a script in /etc/init.d and added hibernate to the services start part in the config file.
[10:48] <sebas> So it's really bad-ass ugly, but it's good enough so kpowersave can hibernate on critical battery
[11:12] <Riddell> sebas: do you know what kpowersave calls to do its hibernate?
[11:20] <sebas> It does it itself, with settings from the sysconfig file.
[11:21] <sebas> I'm using Bernard Blackham's hibernate script, which I think is nicer (also usable from CLI, for instance), and it also has a KDE dialog interface.
[11:22] <mornfall> powersaved is cool
[11:22] <mornfall> and AFAICT kpowersave calls into powersaved to do anything?
[11:22] <sebas> Could be, yes.
[11:22] <mornfall> there's also a CLI utility
[11:22] <mornfall> it's called powersave
[11:24] <Riddell> volunteer needed to package new konversation http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=9927
[11:24] <Riddell> hmm, no likely suspects around
[11:25] <hunger> Riddell: I never used konversation, so I am no good candidate.
[11:25] <hunger> Riddell: I can test anyway if you think that helps.
[11:25] <Riddell> hunger: just need to know how to package
[11:25] <hunger> Riddell: ?
[11:26] <hunger> Riddell: I thought you looked for someone to test a set of debs?
[11:26] <mornfall> Riddell: what's wrong with just updating existing packs to latest upstream?
[11:26] <Riddell> mornfall: that's what's needing done
[11:26] <Riddell> but I'm busy
[11:27] <mornfall> everyone is :|
[11:29] <Mez> Riddell, I can package new version of konversation
[11:29] <Mez> I beleive I did 0.18
[11:29] <Riddell> ooh Mez, didn't spot you there
[11:29] <Riddell> go ahead :)
[11:29] <Mez> np
[11:29] <Mez> we got the UVF request in?
[11:29] <mornfall> when's the feature freeze again?
[11:29] <Riddell> Mez: we need to test it first to make sure it's stable, then I'll put in UVF exception request
[11:30] <Mez> actually I packaged the last version :D
[11:30] <Mez> Riddell: ah - I thought it was tested before being uploaded not before the request
[11:30] <Mez> cool
[11:31] <Riddell> https://wiki.kubuntu.org/DapperReleaseSchedule
[11:31] <Riddell> mornfall: feb 23rd
[11:31] <mornfall> okies
[11:31] <mornfall> thanks
[11:31] <jsgotangco> Riddell, are you going to pick up kubuntu docs in time for flight 4?
[11:35] <Mez> Riddell: do we still want to keep the divergence of joining #kubuntu by default ?
[11:36] <Mez> oh, and can i relibtoolise it ?
[11:37] <Riddell> jsgotangco: yeah, should be able to
[11:37] <Riddell> no idea when flight ill be though (not this week)
[11:37] <Riddell> Mez: yes and yes
[11:37] <Mez> Riddell: ack and ack
[11:38] <jsgotangco> Riddell, ok i'll prepare stuff then just in case
[11:57] <Mez> Riddell: do you still have that smp machine sitting round somewhere ?
[11:59] <Riddell> Mez: nope
[01:11] <Mez> Riddell: will soon have a source and .deb for you to test if you want
[01:21] <Mez> Riddell: uploading to http://ubuntu.dev.sourceguru.net/konversation/
[01:35] <Riddell> Mez: built for daper?
[01:35] <Mez> yup
[01:36] <Mez> poop :D
[01:36] <Mez> -ubunt1
[01:36] <pef> hello
[01:36] <Mez> n -0ubuntu1
[01:36] <Mez> typo
[01:36] <Mez> not *
[01:43] <Hobbsee> Riddell: did you want more testers for kde3.5.1?
[01:44] <Riddell> Hobbsee: testing breezy packages yes, and testing dapper (which now has 3.5.1)
[01:45] <Hobbsee> i'll look into the dapper ones
[01:47] <Riddell> Mez: why add build-dep on patchutils?
[01:48] <Mez> oh, that was gonna be for lsdiff
[01:48] <Mez> but that didnt work
[01:49] <Mez> Uploading fixed package
[02:20] <Mez> Riddell, fixed packae uploaded
[03:27] <jjesse> is 3.5.1 now in the official dapper repository or do i still have to enable Riddells?
[03:27] <Riddell> jjesse: now in official, just don't tell anyone since i hasn't been released yet
[03:28] <jjesse> Riddell: just curious cause people are talking about it in #kubuntu that they updated this mroning and noticed they are now at 3.5.1
[03:29] <Riddell> that's a good sign
[03:31] <Mez> Riddell: can I get a new upload of katapult ?
[03:31] <Mez> It fixes FTBFS in backports on powerpc
[03:34] <\sh> Riddell: are you using one of the early birds, or is 3.5.1 already tagged for release?
[03:34] <Riddell> \sh: it's tagged, released tomorrow
[03:34] <\sh> Riddell: cool
[03:35] <Hobbsee> hehe - well it's tuesday now, so...
[03:36] <jjesse> Hobbsee: depends on where you live its still monday morning :)
[03:37] <Hobbsee> jjesse: ah yes, but let's, for the sake of the argument, use AEST or new zealand time - both of which it's tuesday for
[03:37] <Hobbsee> or aussie central time, i suppose
[03:40] <Hobbsee> night all...
[03:40] <Hobbsee> seeing as it's 1.40am...
[03:51] <Mez> Riddell: when can we expect 3.5.1 in dapper?
[03:51] <jjesse> have you updated today?
[03:51] <jjesse> some people are seeing in in normal updates
[03:52] <Riddell> Mez: last week
[03:52] <Mez> oh
[03:52] <Mez> lol
[03:52] <Mez> then i prob haent noticed the changes :d
[03:52] <kkathman-away> Morning all :)
[03:52] <kkathman> or whatever time of day it is where you are :)
[04:00] <Riddell> Mez: kde 3.5.1 should be backportable if you want to try
[04:00] <Riddell> nees akode and gettext-kde
[04:00] <Riddell> then arts, kdelibs and kdebase
[04:00] <Riddell> s/nees/needs/
[04:36] <kkathman> howdy raphink :)
[04:41] <rraphink> hi kkathman <><
[04:42] <kkathman> rraphink:  do you know of anyone I could contact that uses Quanta to create/edit docbook pages?
[04:43] <rraphink> to create docbook?
[04:43] <rraphink> you can do that with quanta?
[04:51] <JRe> rraphink: yep
[04:52] <rraphink> salut jre
[04:53] <JRe> hi!
[04:55] <kkathman> raphink:  yes sir, I know you can, I was wondering if anyone had been successful in doing so, working with the current ubuntu/kubuntu documentation (specific DTDs have to be used) and I would like to compare notes with someone that's done this
[04:58] <raphink> I've made some docbook docs for kde apps manpages
[04:58] <raphink> manually
[04:58] <raphink> so using quanta is indeed interesting
[04:59] <raphink> kkathman: do you want some docbooks from packages in dapper?
[04:59] <raphink> I'll brg
[04:59] <raphink> brb
[04:59] <raphink> relogging on KDE 3.5.1
[04:59] <raphink> :)
[05:02] <kkathman> raphink It would be great to have those, and I'd like to talk to someone on how they got quanta setup properly
[05:02] <kkathman> i.e. what DTD settings they used - I keep getting validation erros against the KDE docbook standard, of course
[05:03] <kkathman> the only one that comes with Quanta is the 4.2 standard, and the OASIS standard isnt even listed.
[05:04] <raphink> kkathman: get the source of knmap in dapper for example
[05:04] <raphink> I've got a docbook in this one
[05:04] <raphink> in debian/
[05:05] <raphink> http://packages.ubuntu.com/dapper/source/knmap
[05:05] <kkathman> raphink:  I am working on the kubuntu desktop guide with robotgeek. Can you enlighten me?  Are we changing DTDs from the OASIS 4.3?
[05:06] <raphink> <?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?>
[05:06] <raphink> <!DOCTYPE refentry PUBLIC "-//OASIS//DTD DocBook XML V4.2//EN"
[05:06] <raphink> "http://www.oasis-open.org/docbook/xml/4.2/docbookx.dtd" [
[05:06] <raphink> ] >
[05:06] <raphink> that's what I use
[05:07] <raphink> I don't know
[05:07] <raphink> I don't know much on that
[05:07] <raphink> if you can find out, I'd be glad to learn more :)
[05:09] <kkathman> raphink:  the current ubutu standard (on which we are basing the kubuntugude) is 4.3
[05:09] <raphink> kkathman: did you try quanta in dapper?
[05:09] <raphink> or just the latest version that is ;)
[05:10] <kkathman> raphink: I believe the latest version is 3.5, which I have
[05:10] <kkathman> unless there has been a 3.5.1 version come out
[05:10] <kkathman> tho, I am not on dapper.
[05:10] <raphink> ok
[05:11] <kkathman> raphink:  do you know someone that is using Quanta with the above DTD that I could chat with for a brief time?
[05:11] <raphink> of quanta you mean?
[05:11] <kkathman> using quanta to maintain official ubuntu docs, that is
[05:12] <kkathman> its not essential, I can still use Kate and then manually check them using xsltproc and meinproc
[05:12] <raphink> do you have a dapper chroot?
[05:12] <kkathman> but I think Quanta would increase productivity
[05:13] <kkathman> I dont even have dapper installed, just breezy on one partition and SUSE on another.  I'd like to get Dapper installed, and have room for it, but having to mess around with the GRUB afterward to get my other installs to work doesnt appeal to me at present :)
[05:13] <raphink> nope
[05:14] <kkathman> ok I'll just continue to use the Kate tool then
[05:14] <raphink> indeed
[05:14] <raphink> very much so
[05:14] <raphink> especially if we could have a template
[05:14] <raphink> to fill in
[05:15] <raphink> for manpages for kde apps
[05:15] <kkathman> robotgeek and I are using ubuntu as a template, but its a daunting task for sure
[05:15] <kkathman> and Im just starting out down this road learning
[05:15] <kkathman> about those tools, I mean
[05:15] <raphink> get a chroot
[05:16] <raphink> ;)
[05:16] <raphink> do you know how to do that?
[05:16] <robotgeek> or a separate install :)
[05:16] <raphink> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebootstrapChroot
[05:16] <kkathman> robotgeek:  right thats what my plans were originally
[05:16] <raphink> read this ;)
[05:16] <raphink> it takes about 10 minutes in total to set a chroot
[05:16] <raphink> if your internet connection is fast enough
[05:16] <kkathman> I have a 100GB HDD that I have breezy on...and a 300GB HDD that right now has only SUSE
[05:17] <raphink> mhm
[05:17] <kkathman> so I could easily install Dapper on the 300GB drive
[05:17] <raphink> yes but a chroot is faster
[05:17] <kkathman> but actually I should have installed Dapper first, then installed SUSE, as SUSE does a beautiful job of recognizing previous partitions and installs and adds them to the GRUB it builds
[05:18] <raphink> and more useful in a way imo
[05:18] <raphink> such that I have a dapper and a sid chroot in my dapper system
[05:18] <raphink> ;)
[05:18] <raphink> because I don't want to mess up my dapper system when I test packages
[05:18] <kkathman> I dont want to mess up my breezy, its a production system for my business
[05:19] <kkathman> and my SUSE is up, because our company is moving to either that or RH soon and I want to be prepared.
[05:19] <kkathman> Quanta is a fabulous package
[05:20] <kkathman> but you cant "add" a new DTD which is frustrating
[05:20] <raphink> then get a chroot imho
[05:20] <raphink> you'll be able to test programs on dapper and build packages on dapper
[05:20] <raphink> while working on breezy
[05:20] <kkathman> raphink:  I will look into that then
[05:20] <raphink> without messing up your system
[05:20] <raphink> yes
[05:21] <kkathman> I guess im trying to get my head around the concept of Chroot
[05:21] <kkathman> does one actually install Dapper?
[05:21] <raphink> you can't create DTDs?
[05:21] <kkathman> raphink:  I have not been able to find a way - you seem to be able to "change" or "edit" a current DTD that they give you
[05:22] <kkathman> im a bit rusty on my XML/DTD ... I was an head of applications development for a startup XML apps company a few years ago
[05:22] <kkathman> its been a while since I touched it :)
[05:22] <raphink> kkathman: look in /usr/share/apps/quanta/dtep
[05:23] <raphink> seems to me there might be a way there ;)
[05:24] <kkathman> raphink:  thats one of the reasons I would love to find someone that its actively using Quanta to maintain Ubuntu/Kubuntu Docbookx
[05:24] <raphink> well we can get to use it
[05:25] <raphink> now that we know it works :)
[05:25] <kkathman> Im a KDE man through and through...so I tend to want to use it for everything :)
[05:25] <raphink> :)
[05:25] <raphink> too bad the visualisation thing doesn't work with docbook though
[05:25] <kkathman> I raised an issue via the quanta maillist
[05:26] <kkathman> raphink:  it wont work actually, because the xml has to pass through and XSL to generate the HTML to be viewed
[05:26] <raphink> ok
[05:26] <kkathman> all you'll get in Konq for instance, is just the XML
[05:26] <kkathman> hence the purpose of the XSL stylesheet
[05:27] <raphink> yes
[05:27] <raphink> there's an engine in KDE to process manpages though
[05:27] <raphink> that is used by man:/
[05:27] <raphink> in konqueror
[05:28] <raphink> but I guess it has to go through docbook2x first ;)
[05:28] <raphink> hehe
[05:29] <kkathman> probably
[05:30] <kkathman> the XSL for ubuntu/kubuntu isnt particularly inventive or attractive, but at this late date, I doubt we can affect a total change in deployment
[05:40] <kkathman> hi there jjesse :)
[05:43] <Riddell> kkathman: what's it a late date for?
[05:45] <kkathman> Riddell:  hi there!  I was speaking regarding a rather large change, that would be pretty extensive to do with Dapper do out in April I think
[05:46] <kkathman> Riddell:  changing the XSL that renders the docbooks to something maybe a little more inventive or attractive...perhaps a longer term project?
[05:46] <kkathman> Im not advocating its change now at all
[05:47] <Riddell> that's just artwork
[05:47] <kkathman> is the official xsl  the desktopguide-html-chunk-cust-xsl ??
[05:47] <Riddell> got until March 9th
[05:48] <kkathman> or something else?
[05:48] <robotgeek> kkathman: i figure Riddell will give a super cool css to use
[05:48] <Riddell> the kde docs just use the KDE XSL
[05:48] <kkathman> robotgeek: CSS is great, but also talking about the XSL component
[05:49] <kkathman> Riddell:  can you point me to that XSL ?  and any CSS you likely might have?  Im not going to edit them, I just wanted to merely use them in my testing of the kubuntu desktopguide
[05:51] <kkathman> robotgeek:  we are editing the XML.  And as you indicated the other night, XML needs to be "transformed" via the XSLT to make a html. That html can, in turn, use CSS in its deployment also :)
[05:51] <robotgeek> ah, okay
[05:51] <kkathman> the XSL basically looks at the tagged elements (along with DTD rules) and "creates" XHTML that we would recognize
[05:52] <kkathman> thats a rather 30,000 ft explanation :)
[05:52] <robotgeek> works for me :0
[05:52] <Riddell>  /usr/share/apps/ksgmltools2/customization/
[05:53] <Riddell>  /usr/share/doc/kde/HTML/en/common/
[05:54] <kkathman> Riddell the name of the xsl file?
[05:55] <Riddell> kde-chunk.xsl I think
[05:55] <kkathman> gotcha
[05:56] <kkathman> robotgeek - we need to change mk to use this xsl instead of the desktopguide-html-chunk-cust.csl its using now
[05:56] <kkathman> I can look at the resulting HTML and check what css is being used
[05:57] <kkathman> robotgeek: its a simple change to the script..just do a replacement
[05:57] <kkathman> I'll do it on my end also
[06:02] <robotgeek> kkathman: cool
[07:16] <_jr> well konversation seems to work
[07:16] <_jr> Mez: but it runs ./configure again after the compile
[07:16] <_jr> which is slightly insane
[07:37] <Riddelll> test new konversation http://kubuntu.org/~jriddell/tmp/konversation_0.19-0ubuntu1_i386.deb
[09:15] <mornfall> AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARGH
[09:15] <mornfall> not another mockup
[09:18] <mornfall> i'm developing a case of misuseria


[10:46] <mgc-svetatroica> hi guys i want to ask a question.... I have installed lubuntu and want it to use it as a work machine but i cant get the printer To work properly... can someone help me?
[10:47] <mgc-svetatroica> can someone help me with printer configuration on lubuntu???
[10:53] <mgc-svetatroica> someone?? is hire someone who knows how to properly config a printer on lubuntu... i got it to work but it prins strange lines acros the page....
[19:55] <pev> Hello !
[19:55] <ianorlin> hi pev
[19:56] <pev> Hi ! I have a LXLE distro and i have a question about a Skype problem, can anybody help me ?
[19:57] <ianorlin> pev LXLE is not supported here but I don't use sykpe so I don't know how to fix that
[19:59] <pev> :( Ok... I had the same problem on my elementary OS previously (june 2014 probably?) so i suppose Skype is just a problem on Linux... Thank you for your answer ianorlin
[19:59] <wxl> pev: skype works fine for me in lubuntu
[20:00] <pev> wxl: yeah ! Skype works ! But my ventilator works very hard too and all of my processor is required
[20:01] <wxl> pev: that may be a problem with the resources you have relative to the resources skype requires. mine does not do that same thing.
[20:02] <pev> wxl: i'm very surprising because i have an i5 processor and 4Go RAM... Skype need more ?!
[20:08] <pev> Ok... Thank you for your awnsers wxl , ianorlin ! Bye ! :)


[05:41] <PaoloRotolo> Good morning
[05:43] <PaoloRotolo> 7 submissions to the ARB in 7 hours :)
[07:05] <dpm> good morning all
[07:15] <PaoloRotolo> Good morning dpm
[07:24] <dholbach> good morning
[07:29] <PaoloRotolo> Ciao dholbach ;)
[07:30] <PaoloRotolo> Good morning didrocks
[07:30] <dholbach> ciao PaoloRotolo
[07:30] <didrocks> hey PaoloRotolo, dholbach!
[07:31] <dholbach> salut didrocks
[07:40] <dpm> good morning PaoloRotolo, dholbach, didrocks
[07:41] <dholbach> hola dpm
[07:41] <dpm> hey!
[07:43] <didrocks> hey dpm ;)
[07:52] <PaoloRotolo> hi dpm :)
[08:12] <dpm> didrocks, dholbach, quick question: mterry fixed https://bugs.launchpad.net/quickly/+bug/1018038 yesterday and uploaded it to precise-proposed, but it's pending approval. Do you know who the best person to talk to would be to get the upload into -proposed? I'd like to get it there as soon as possible, because more and more app devs are stumbling upon this now that they're starting sending submissions for the appshowdown
[08:13] <didrocks> dpm: bdmurray
[08:14] <dpm> thanks didrocks, do you know someone else who might be online right now?
[08:14] <didrocks> dpm: any people on the ubuntu-sru team
[08:14] <dpm> ok, cool, thanks
[08:20] <dholbach> didrocks, jibel maybe?
[08:20] <didrocks> dholbach: is he on the sru team?
[08:20] <dholbach> I think so
[08:20] <didrocks> I didn't know that, I didn't follow the latest move :)
[08:25] <dpm> he does not seem to be: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-sru/+members#active
[08:25] <dpm> I've asked cjwatson and RAOF
[08:33] <PaoloRotolo> dpm, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/StableReleaseUpdates#Publishing
[08:34] <PaoloRotolo> There is a schedule
[08:35] <dpm> PaoloRotolo, cool thanks, I did not know about that. slangasek is not online right now, but RAOF is helping out ou #ubuntu-devel
[08:35] <PaoloRotolo> dholbach, ok :)
[08:38] <PaoloRotolo> dholbach, sorry, wrong tab...
[09:08] <dpm> dholbach, the fixed quickly package has now been uploaded to precise-proposed. I'm writing some instructions for app developers to use the -proposed package. Once they've enabled the -proposed repo and ran 'sudo apt-get update', what's the best way to upgrade only the Quickly package, just 'sudo apt-get install quickly'?
[09:13] <dholbach> yep
[09:14] <dpm> thanks!
[09:20] <dholbach> dpm, don't forget the python-distutils-extra -proposed update!
[09:20] <dpm> dholbach, I know, I just installed it :)
[09:20] <dholbach> sweet
[09:25] <didrocks> dpm: dholbach: apt-get install quickly isn't enough
[09:25] <didrocks> in fact, you need apt-get install quickly-ubuntu-template
[09:26] <didrocks> as the fix is there :)
[09:26] <didrocks> and upgrading quickly doesn't force to upgrade quickly-ubuntu-template
[09:27] <dpm> didrocks, ah, thanks for the heads up. So 'apt-get install quickly-ubuntu-template' should do then, without the need of 'apt-get install quickly'?
[09:27] <didrocks> dpm: yeah, TBH confirmed, but that should be enough :)
[09:28] <dpm> ok, cool, thanks
[09:28] <dpm> didrocks, thanks, updated the instructions on http://askubuntu.com/questions/156339/launchpad-failed-to-build-after-quickly-submitubuntu/156362
[13:14] <highvoltage> holy crap. that's a lot of submissions.
[13:41] <dpm> :)
[15:10] <PaoloRotolo> Hi all!
[15:26] <PaoloRotolo> I'm reviewing "webbar"
[15:28] <PaoloRotolo> hi dholbach :)
[15:29] <dholbach> great
[15:29] <dholbach> ciao PaoloRotolo :)
[15:29] <PaoloRotolo> dholbach, uhm,  Webbar is installed in usr/bin
[15:29] <PaoloRotolo> not in /opt
[15:29] <dholbach> maybe somebody can give you an example how to move stuff to /opt
[15:29] <dholbach> I'm in a call right now
[15:30] <PaoloRotolo> dholbach, ok, I'll wait :P
[15:30] <dholbach> or review something else in the meantime
[15:30] <dholbach> or review functionality
[15:31] <PaoloRotolo> dholbach, it crash too
[15:31] <dholbach> then report the info back :)
[15:31] <PaoloRotolo> ok, thanks :)
[15:48] <PaoloRotolo> Here's the traceback:
[15:48] <PaoloRotolo> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1078218/
[16:04] <dholbach> ^ can somebody from the ARB add this please? (webbar)
[16:05] <PaoloRotolo> Can somebody post this feedback here: https://myapps.developer.ubuntu.com/dev/apps/1057/  ?
[16:05] <PaoloRotolo> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1078246/
[16:13] <PaoloRotolo> thanks in advantage :)
[16:23] <dholbach> the next arb-lint build will go to https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-app-review-contributors/+archive/ppa instead
[16:23] <dholbach> which will be a much better place
[17:01] <PaoloRotolo> toh... a .exe app :|  http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-app-review-contributors/ubuntu-app-reviews/guidecpubuntu/files
[17:02] <PaoloRotolo> http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-app-review-contributors/ubuntu-app-reviews/pivot/files


[22:15] <LirazSiri> Hi there everybody! Got here a bit late, is it too late to do some proofreading?
[22:17] <tyche> No UWN this week.
[22:17] <LirazSiri> ah, yeah I noticed the dates on the next issue didn't add up...
[22:17] <LirazSiri> due to the holidays?
[22:18] <tyche> Ype
[22:18] <tyche> Yep.  GAD!  I've GOT to get my fingers fixed.  Hee hee
[22:18] <LirazSiri> That's too bad. Would have been a good opportunity to spread some holiday cheer...
[22:19] <LirazSiri> I'm think Santa uses Ubuntu. Or at least his elves...
[22:21] <LirazSiri> Oh well, see you next week!
[22:21] <LirazSiri> Happy holidays everybody!