[12:15] <jhutchins_lt> Alt-F2
[12:15] <quinton_> go on
[12:15] <K-Ryan> type that in
[12:15] <K-Ryan> kdesu kate.....
[12:15] <quinton_> ok now?
[12:16] <K-Ryan> look for timeout or delay setting
[12:16] <jhutchins_lt> /engage brain
[12:16] <K-Ryan> =)
[12:16] <quinton_> I dont quiet understand
[12:16] <quinton_> please explain more literate?
[12:16] <Schuenemann> alt f2, then paste the command
[12:16] <ninHer> hi all
[12:16] <arekanderu> stdin: hey man, now I've activated the nvidia
[12:16] <K-Ryan> What language do you usually speak quinton_?
[12:17] <arekanderu> stdin: but now it says that OpenGL ain't installed
[12:17] <stdin> arekanderu: what says that?
[12:17] <K-Ryan> !format
[12:17] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Gnome under Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For Edgy, see !fstab and !DiskMounter
[12:17] <arekanderu> stdin: the game i'm trying to run
[12:17] <K-Ryan> How can I completely erase a hard drive?
[12:17] <K-Ryan> Preferably from the konsole
[12:17] <K-Ryan> Because Gparted is giving me an error box with nothing in it
[12:17] <K-Ryan> I want the drive zeroed
[12:17] <quinton_> shuenemann: I did that, Now it loaded untitled - kate
[12:18] <stdin> K-Ryan: you format it, with the mkfs command, see "man mkfs"
[12:18] <K-Ryan> quinton_: You typed something in wrong then
[12:18] <quinton_> kdesu kate
[12:18] <stdin> arekanderu: well you will have it installed, it's installed with X
[12:18] <stdin> arekanderu: what's the exact output?
[12:18] <K-Ryan> No you needed to type in the whole line quinton_
[12:18] <Schuenemann> you were told kdesu kate /boot/grub/menu.lst
[12:19] <arekanderu> stdin:
[12:19] <arekanderu> X Server has no OpenGL extension. (Error Code 31)
[12:19] <arekanderu> Please ensure your X Server features an OpenGL extension.
[12:19] <quinton_> sorry
[12:19] <quinton_> I didnt see that
[12:19] <K-Ryan> stdin: I just need it empty
[12:19] <stdin> arekanderu: ahh, do you have "Load    "glx"" in your /
[12:19] <K-Ryan> General command for that please? =)
[12:19] <jhutchins_lt> quinton_: Alt-F2, then kdesu kate /boot/grub/menu.lst, then look for "timeout".
[12:19] <stdin> arekanderu: /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[12:20] <quinton_> jhutchins_it: I got it now, thank you, just timeout to 0 ?
[12:20] <arekanderu> stdin: i'll chekc
[12:20] <arekanderu> stdin: check*
[12:20] <stdin> K-Ryan: you want it ext3?
[12:20] <jhutchins_lt> quinton_: I would set it to 1
[12:20] <K-Ryan> stdin: Well I plan on partitioning it into a few different things
[12:20] <K-Ryan> But right now I just need it empty, or one thing I guess
[12:20] <jhutchins_lt> quinton_: Much easier to deal with than if you set it to 0 and need it.
[12:20] <stdin> K-Ryan: ahh, so you want to delete the partition?
[12:20] <quinton_> jhutchins_it: like this it will not show correct?
[12:20] <K-Ryan> I want the whole drive
[12:20] <K-Ryan> empty
[12:20] <arekanderu> stdin: i can't finy any "load"
[12:20] <arekanderu> stdin: what should I do?
[12:20] <jhutchins_lt> quinton_: Let it show for one second.
[12:21] <quinton_> jhutchins_it: whats the difference?
[12:21] <stdin> K-Ryan: is it the main drive (the one you are running from) or another one?
[12:21] <doml_> hi, maybe a silly question, but what's the easiest way to just get rid of all my old kernels?
[12:21] <K-Ryan> I'm on a live cd
[12:21] <stdin> arekanderu: post the file to pastebin please
[12:21] <jhutchins_lt> quinton_: If you ever have a problem with a kernel, or a hard drive, or whatever, you can still boot.
[12:21] <K-Ryan> its /dev/hdc
[12:21] <arekanderu> stdin: kk
[12:21] <K-Ryan> there's no hdb, go figure
[12:21] <doml_> i keep a separate /boot partition and it's almost full, i won't be able to get any more kernel updates...
[12:21] <arekanderu> !postbin | arekanderu
[12:21] <jhutchins_lt> quinton_: Otherwise you would need a boot disk or rescue CD or something.
[12:21] <stdin> K-Ryan: ok, open up qtparted
[12:21] <quinton_> jhutchins_it: oh, well it will be ok like this My computer Is very well managed.
[12:21] <Schuenemann> !pastebin
[12:21] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[12:21] <K-Ryan> doml_ delete older kernels
[12:22] <stdin> K-Ryan: or from the command line, run "sudo fdisk /dev/hdc"
[12:22] <K-Ryan> stdin: i have gparted open but whenever I try to delete a partition i get a blank error mesage
[12:22] <K-Ryan> command line it is!
[12:22] <arekanderu> stdin: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/28726/
[12:23] <K-Ryan> It came up with "Warning: invalid flag 0x0000 of partition table 4 will be corrected by w(rite)
[12:23] <K-Ryan> then "Command (m for help):
[12:23] <doml_> other then going in to a terminal and doing "rm -Rf /boot/*", or whatever.  something a bit more, you know, 21st century
[12:23] <quinton_> jhutchins_it: will automatix work well with kubuntu?
[12:23] <K-Ryan> Put in w?
[12:23] <jhutchins_lt> doml_: Don't just delete them, remove them with apt.
[12:23] <HayaBusa> HI guys, I have xp and linux on same system . with many files on xp partition, I Like to know how to make a link to folders on xp ?
[12:23] <K-Ryan> quinton_ NEVER USE AUTOMATIX
[12:23] <jhutchins_lt> !ntfs | HayaBusa
[12:23] <ubotu> HayaBusa: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[12:23] <K-Ryan> !automatix
[12:24] <ubotu> Automatix2 is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[12:24] <stdin> K-Ryan: seeing as you want to repartition the whole drive, yeah
[12:24] <K-Ryan> =)
[12:24] <arekanderu> stdin: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/28726/
[12:24] <K-Ryan> Unable to write /dev/hdc
[12:24] <K-Ryan> =(
[12:24] <quinton_> k-ryan: any other sugguestion to install flash? and getting frostwire to work?
[12:24] <stdin> arekanderu: try changing the "load glx" part to "Load glx" under "Section "Module""
[12:24] <TrueFX> hi guys
[12:24] <jhutchins_lt> K-Ryan: Needless to say, you must be root or use sudo.
[12:25] <HayaBusa> MY partition is mounted and i can brows, but i need to crate like shortcut to some folders on my xp partion
[12:25] <K-Ryan> I did type sudo
[12:25] <arekanderu> stdin: how did i open xorg.conf with sudo now again? >.<
[12:25] <TrueFX> i cant furf using my browser
[12:25] <K-Ryan> I think I did
[12:25] <K-Ryan> Yeah, I did
[12:25] <jhutchins_lt> HayaBusa: I suppose you can click-and-drag.
[12:25] <TrueFX> how can  i see what blocks it doing that ?
[12:25] <TrueFX> suf
[12:25] <TrueFX> surf
[12:25] <HayaBusa> i will try ..
[12:25] <HayaBusa> thanks
[12:25] <stdin> arekanderu: kdesu kate /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[12:25] <K-Ryan> ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo fdisk /dev/hdc
[12:25] <K-Ryan> You will not be able to write the partition table.
[12:25] <Schuenemann> stdin, he can also try AllowGlxWithComposite "True"... I only got it working with that line
[12:26] <stdin> arekanderu:  ^ try that too
[12:26] <stdin> K-Ryan: make sure it's not mounted anywhere
[12:26] <HayaBusa> yep. that worked. thanks
[12:26] <K-Ryan> I don't think it's mounted but I'll look around
[12:27] <arekanderu> stdin: checking now
[12:27] <jhutchins_lt> K-Ryan: mount will tell you.
[12:27] <arekanderu> stdin: nothing changed
[12:27] <arekanderu> stdin: same error msg (31)
[12:27] <arekanderu> stdin: i have to reboot >.<
[12:27] <stdin> arekanderu: you have to restart the Xserver after
[12:27] <arekanderu> stdin: lol, brb
[12:27] <stdin> arekanderu: no need to reboot
[12:27] <arekanderu> stdin: yeah, brb
[12:27] <arekanderu> stdin: ?
[12:27] <K-Ryan> It doesn't seem to be mounted
[12:27] <stdin> arekanderu: just restart the server, Ctrl-Alt-Backspace
[12:28] <K-Ryan> ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ mount /dev/hdc
[12:28] <K-Ryan> mount: can't find /dev/hdc in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab
[12:28] <stdin> K-Ryan: try "mount | grep hdc"
[12:28] <K-Ryan> nothing came up
[12:28] <arekanderu> stdin: same error msg (31)
[12:28] <arekanderu> stdin:  :((
[12:29] <stdin> hmm
[12:30] <arekanderu> stdin: and i can only have graphics 800*600 or 2024*something :(
[12:30] <arekanderu> stdin: :'(
[12:30] <Schuenemann> maybe it is your monitor settings (that was my problem)
[12:30] <stdin> arekanderu: try posting /var/log/Xorg.0.log to pastebin
[12:30] <arekanderu> stdin: kk brb
[12:31] <arekanderu> stdin: uhm, it won't let me
[12:31] <arekanderu> stdin: "Denied"
[12:31] <RandomDude16> how can i get mkv files to play without lagging?
[12:31] <jhutchins_lt> arekanderu: just use sudo when that happens.
[12:31] <stdin> arekanderu: what won't let you?
[12:31] <jhutchins_lt> arekanderu: Sorry, kdesu.
[12:31] <arekanderu> stdin: the command you told me to write, the command won't let me open that log
[12:31] <K-Ryan> Anyone know a command to force a hard drive and all its partitions to be erased?
[12:32] <RandomDude16> I have an Athlon 64 3000+ with an NVIDIA Geforce 7600
[12:32] <jhutchins_lt> arekanderu: kdesu <command>
[12:32] <K-Ryan> I don't need or want any of it
[12:32] <arekanderu> jhutchins_lt: kdesu, k, ty :)
[12:32] <K-Ryan> I want it GONE
[12:32] <stdin> arekanderu: you don't need root to open it
[12:32] <Schuenemann> there is nothing to deny it, he's just pasting a file =?
[12:32] <jhutchins_lt> arekanderu: Any time you get access denied or an error like that, can not write lock file, etc. just make sure you're using kdesu or sudo.
[12:32] <arekanderu> stdin: wow, Permission Denied anyway
[12:32] <RandomDude16> anyone?
[12:32] <jhutchins_lt> arekanderu: Figure anything that can affect the system you'll need that.
[12:33] <arekanderu> stdin: this sucks.. :(
[12:33] <stdin> arekanderu: what does "ls -l /var/log/Xorg.0.log" show?
[12:33] <K-Ryan> Please...
[12:33] <arekanderu> stdin: -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 32590 2007-07-06 00:30 /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[12:34] <K-Ryan> I'm dying here
[12:34] <arekanderu> jhutchins_lt: thanks man
[12:34] <stdin> arekanderu: then you should be able to read it
[12:34] <arekanderu> stdin: won't let me ;(
[12:34] <jhutchins_lt> K-Ryan: fdisk
[12:34] <arekanderu> stdin: w8, posting it to pastebin so you can take a look yourself
[12:34] <arekanderu> !pastebin
[12:34] <stdin> K-Ryan: try pressing "o" in fdisk
[12:34] <jhutchins_lt> arekanderu: What are you actually using to try to look at it?
[12:35] <arekanderu> jhutchins_lt: the command
[12:35] <arekanderu> !pastebin | arekanderu
[12:35] <arekanderu> ...
[12:35] <arekanderu> !pastebin
[12:35] <K-Ryan> o doesn't do anything
[12:35] <Contrast83> Greets, everyone...
[12:35] <arekanderu> ?pastebin
[12:35] <arekanderu> ..
[12:35] <stdin> K-Ryan: it should create a new partition table
[12:35] <jhutchins_lt> Ooh, ubotu doesn't feel well...
[12:35] <Contrast83> Does anyone know if X supports dual graphics card setups
[12:35] <Contrast83> ?
[12:35] <K-Ryan> stdin: it doesn't
[12:35] <arekanderu> !pastebin | Contrast83
[12:36] <jhutchins_lt> Dead bot.
[12:36] <Schuenemann> !pastebin | arekanderu
[12:36] <stdin> Contrast83: it does, with some settings
[12:36] <Schuenemann> the bot is offline hehehe
[12:36] <arekanderu> The bot is dead
[12:36] <arekanderu> i don't know the address
[12:36] <Contrast83> stdin: How do you mean?
[12:36] <arekanderu> to the pastebin ..
[12:36] <Contrast83> Settings on the cards themselves?
[12:36] <Schuenemann> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[12:37] <arekanderu> stdin: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/28727/
[12:37] <arekanderu> stdin: that's what it says
[12:37] <stdin> arekanderu: you'll need to add the settings to xorg.conf, I don't think that system settings can do it
[12:37] <arekanderu> stdin: please, could you guide me?
[12:38] <stdin> arekanderu: that's not right, it's not a command, just open kate and then open /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[12:38] <arekanderu> stdin: where's that "kate"?
[12:39] <Contrast83> arekanderu: KMenu -> Utilities -> Kate
[12:39] <arekanderu> Contrast83: ty
[12:39] <Contrast83> yep
[12:39] <arekanderu> stdin: i opened the /var thingy
[12:39] <arekanderu> stdin: and now?
[12:40] <stdin> post it to pastebin
[12:40] <arekanderu> kk
[12:40] <arekanderu> stdin: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/28728/
[12:41] <Contrast83> stdin: Do you know of a resource you could point me to where I could read up on dual graphics cards under Linux in general?
[12:41] <quinton_> How would I run a .exe file?
[12:42] <stdin> Contrast83: umm, google? but look on http://linuxquestions.org and the http://ubuntuforums.org too
[12:42] <stdin> !wine | quinton_
[12:42] <Contrast83> K, thanks
[12:42] <arekanderu> stdin: did you find anything m8?
[12:42] <quinton_> stdin: wine is free?
[12:42] <stdin> dang, ubotu is slow
[12:42] <ubotu> quinton_: wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[12:43] <stdin> arekanderu: I'm no expert on the nvidia driver, but I can't see anything wrong in there
[12:43] <K-Ryan> !unmount
[12:43] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about unmount - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:43] <arekanderu> stdin: this sucks man.. :(
[12:43] <K-Ryan> I was told to try...
[12:43] <stdin> arekanderu: GLX is loaded too "(II) Loading extension GLX"
[12:43] <K-Ryan> sudo dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/hdc bs=512 count=1
[12:43] <jhutchins_lt> K-Ryan: umount.  man umount.
[12:43] <K-Ryan> It tells me Read-only file system
[12:43] <arekanderu> stdin: ok?
[12:43] <K-Ryan> what, I put in the n?
[12:44] <K-Ryan> -.-
[12:44] <arekanderu> stdin: what should I do then?
[12:44] <jhutchins_lt> K-Ryan: You've probably specified your CD then.
[12:44] <RandomDude16> HELLO?
[12:44] <jhutchins_lt> K-Ryan: sudo fdisk -l, see what it says.
[12:44] <stdin> arekanderu: not sure, as far as I can see, it should work
[12:44] <K-Ryan> Specified my CD?
[12:44] <Heulsay> Hi, is there any repository for the new kde4 alpha 2 ?
[12:44] <quinton_> k-ryan: what is the repository in kubuntu and how do I get to it?
[12:44] <stdin> K-Ryan: remember on feisty your disk will be /dev/sdX not /dev/hdX
[12:44] <jhutchins_lt> Heulsay: They usually prefer that you run from the KDE sources if you're going to bug test an alpha.
[12:45] <K-Ryan> This is a Dapper CD
[12:45] <arekanderu> stdin: cant i download the drivers again?
[12:45] <arekanderu> stdin: or?
[12:45] <Guilty_as_Sin> derek, is that you?
[12:45] <K-Ryan> That did it
[12:45] <derekporter> no its tina
[12:45] <K-Ryan> The sdc instead of hdc
[12:45] <RandomDude16> Anyone care to help me fix my problem?
[12:45] <Guilty_as_Sin> lol
[12:45] <arekanderu> !nvidia
[12:45] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[12:45] <quinton_> stdin: where do I find kubuntu's respository?
[12:45] <jhutchins_lt> K-Ryan: You want to be pretty careful with that.
[12:45] <RandomDude16> !hstv
[12:45] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about hstv - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:45] <jhutchins_lt> K-Ryan: I wouldn't do dd, I'd use fdisk.
[12:45] <RandomDude16> !hdtv
[12:45] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about hdtv - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:45] <K-Ryan> Too late *shrug*
[12:45] <RandomDude16> !mkv
[12:45] <stdin> quinton_: open the Adept package manager
[12:45] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[12:46] <jhutchins_lt> K-Ryan: Using dd you could end up with an unsalvagable drive.
[12:46] <RandomDude16> !cpu
[12:46] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about cpu - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:46] <K-Ryan> I don't need what was on it
[12:46] <stdin> arekanderu: you can try reinstaling it, but I don't think that would help
[12:46] <jhutchins_lt> K-Ryan: I know, but presumably you want the actual disk.  You could break it with dd so that you can't use it for anything else.
[12:47] <arekanderu> stdin: wow man, this really sucks
[12:47] <stdin> jhutchins_lt: that wouldn't break it, just blank it
[12:47] <jhutchins_lt> K-Ryan: Also, if you get the wrong device name again, you could end up with a dead system.
[12:47] <jhutchins_lt> stdin: So if he overwrites the partition table and mbr....
[12:47] <arekanderu> stdin: brb, gonna try some new stuff
[12:47] <arekanderu> stdin: i'll brb
[12:48] <stdin> jhutchins_lt: that's what he wants
[12:48] <K-Ryan> Never mind it didn't work
[12:48] <K-Ryan> hdc is still intact
[12:48] <K-Ryan> except in GParted there is now an empty sdc
[12:49] <sito__> [00:45]  <sito__> ssh root@83.57.117.XXX:22
[12:49] <sito__> [00:45]  <sito__>its correct?
[12:49] <K-Ryan> sudo fdisk -l says /dev/hda
[12:50] <K-Ryan> So that's not the problem
[12:50] <stdin> stdin: leave out the :22
[12:50] <arekanderu> !nvidia
[12:50] <stdin> heh, ^ speaking to self
[12:50] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[12:50] <stdin> sito__:  leave out the :22
[12:51] <sito__> stdin, thanks!!
[12:51] <TeraDyne> !ies4linux > TeraDyne
[12:51] <sito__> but, can i put in port 222 for example?
[12:52] <stdin> sito__: you'd use "ssh -p 222 root@myhostname"
[12:53] <Sloik> Yo
[12:54] <stdin> Yo-Ho-Ho
[12:54] <sito__> stdin: thanks thanks !! XD
[12:54] <stdin> no problem :)
[12:54] <Schuenemann> is anyone able to play MIDI files?
[12:54] <stdin> !midi
[12:54] <ubotu> Trouble playing MIDI files? Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MidiSoftwareSynthesisHowTo
[12:54] <Sloik> Only through this one program
[12:54] <Sloik> timidity
[12:55] <Schuenemann> stdin, there is a problem with that wiki, there was a update
[12:56] <Schuenemann> the file listed is not created anymore
[01:02] <patrux> hello :)
[01:02] <quinton_> Can someone guide me through installing flash?
[01:02] <stdin> !flash
[01:02] <ubotu> To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[01:03] <patrux> adobe flashplayer ?
[01:03] <Schuenemann> yes
[01:03] <stdin> flash is only available in 32bit format, ie: not for PPC and not on 64bit (unless you use 32bit firefox)
[01:03] <quinton_> stdin: im not so literate in linux please guide me?
[01:04] <stdin> quinton_: what version are you using?
[01:04] <spark_> hi everyone
[01:04] <quinton_> stdin: feisty fawn I do believe
[01:04] <patrux> you have to install firefox 32bit version
[01:04] <quinton_> stdin: I need java to run a program not browser...
[01:05] <stdin> quinton_: you should just be able to install the package called "flashplugin-nonfree" in adept
[01:05] <stdin> quinton_: flash isn't java
[01:05] <quinton_> stdin: I get them mixed alot... hmm so how to install?
[01:06] <spark_> i got a crazy problem with vmware-workstation 6.0 : everytime i restart my system i have to reconfigure it with the *.pl file if i start it without configurating the program crashes. does anyone know why my pc cant "rembember" the configuration?
[01:06] <stdin> quinton_: to install java, the easiest way IMO is to open konsole and type in "sudo apt-get install sun-java6-jre"
[01:07] <quinton_> stdin: thankies
[01:07] <BluesKaj> he prolly needs flash for youtube as well :)
[01:07] <stdin> quinton_: you'll have to accept the licence, use tab, page-up, page-down and enter to navigate
[01:08] <vit__> hola
[01:08] <quinton_> stdin: works nicely
[01:08] <BluesKaj> good point stdin , lotsa ppl forget about the licence agreement and they think when using adept or synaptic that the install timed out or stalled.
[01:09] <stdin> !es | vit__
[01:09] <ubotu> vit__: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[01:09] <firebird_619> What command can I use to determine my monitors horizontal sync frequency and vertical refresh rate? "sudo ddcprobe | grep monitorrange" does not work.
[01:09] <quinton_> stdin: hey... how do
[01:09] <quinton_> stdin: I select ok?
[01:10] <vit__> I'm sorry i don't speak english
[01:10] <stdin> quinton_: yeah
[01:10] <quinton_> stdin: how?
[01:10] <quinton_> stdin: enter isnt wanting to work
[01:10] <stdin> quinton_: use the tab key
[01:10] <Ace2016> Hi all
[01:10] <quinton_> stdin: thanks
[01:11] <arekanderu> Guys
[01:11] <arekanderu> I'm going mad
[01:11] <arekanderu> Nothing seems to work
[01:11] <arekanderu> I can't get my video card (nVidia Geforce MX440) TO WORK
[01:11] <quinton_> stdin: it still says when I try to run the program (no java?) and to get java now
[01:12] <arekanderu> I beg you, somebody please help me
[01:12] <stdin> quinton_: now do "sudo update-alternatives --config java"
[01:12] <arekanderu> i'm going nuts :((
[01:12] <stdin> quinton_: choose the one that looks like "/usr/lib/jvm/java-6-sun/jre/bin/java"
[01:13] <Ace2016> !nvidia
[01:13] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[01:13] <Ace2016> arekanderu: tried that?
[01:13] <quinton_> stdin: I selected it
[01:13] <arekanderu> Ace2016: to many times now
[01:13] <quinton_> stdin: now?
[01:13] <arekanderu> Ace2016: anyway, ty for trying to help
[01:13] <stdin> quinton_: that should be all you need to do
[01:13] <quinton_> stdin: the program still asks for java
[01:14] <stdin> quinton_: what's it's exact output?
[01:14] <stdin> quinton_: and what program is it?
[01:14] <quinton_> stdin: limewire turbo
[01:14] <quinton_> stdin: I installed it with wine
[01:14] <Ace2016> arekanderu: did you get any errors? or what?
[01:14] <liuqinglai> What you are talking about java
[01:15] <stdin> quinton_: limewire is available on linux
[01:15] <quinton_> stdin: not limewire turbo
[01:15] <quinton_> stdin: its alot quiker =/
[01:15] <quinton_> stdin: thats the only reason I wish to use it.
[01:15] <stdin> quinton_: and if it's in wine, then you need to install the windows version of java in wine
[01:15] <quinton_> stdin: ><; alright, thanks
[01:16] <arekanderu> Ace2016: yeah
[01:16] <arekanderu> Ace2016: my graphic card just won't work
[01:16] <arekanderu> Ace2016: i've fixed the xorg.conf thing
[01:16] <arekanderu> Ace2016: i've done EVERYTHING i think
[01:16] <arekanderu> Ace2016: gonna try one last thing
[01:16] <arekanderu> !nvidia
[01:16] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[01:17] <quinton_> stdin: wow, wine is great
[01:17] <Ace2016> did sudo modprobe nvidia give errors? if not the module loads, did you try restarting? what is exactly the problem?
[01:18] <vit__> yes
[01:18] <liuqinglai> I hava installed KDE last night and when I use it most of the cpu and momery was used than I used Gnome,
[01:19] <arekanderu> the problem is
[01:19] <arekanderu> that
[01:19] <arekanderu> kubuntu won't find my graphic card
[01:19] <arekanderu> or something like that
[01:19] <arekanderu> i've got NO CLUE
[01:19] <arekanderu> i've tried EVERYTHING and it just WON'T WORK
[01:19] <liuqinglai> are you all face the same thing
[01:19] <quinton_> stdin: im guessing if it says a file could not install I just keep trying?
[01:20] <liuqinglai> I hava installed KDE last night and when I use it most of the cpu and momery was used than I used Gnome,are you all face the same thing
[01:20] <arekanderu> liuqinglai: Nope
[01:20] <TeraDyne> liuqinglai: No.
[01:21] <stdin> quinton_: not sure, don't use wine
[01:21] <quinton_> stdin: it failed on a file and now it still wont load
[01:21] <stdin> quinton_: you can ask in #winehq
[01:21] <liuqinglai> why I face it it used my momery more than 50%
[01:23] <TeraDyne> liuqinglai: KDE is a heavier desktop environment than GNOME, so it'll probably use more system resources. However, it differs from machine to machine
[01:23] <liuqinglai> OH
[01:23] <liuqinglai>  Oh
[01:23] <liuqinglai> I just want to try so I install it
[01:24] <liuqinglai>  I think I'll be used to use Gnome
[01:25] <TeraDyne> liuqinglai: If you perfer GNOME, use it. That's the cool thing about Linux, you get a wide variety of window and desktop managers to choose from.
[01:28] <liuqinglai> yes but there are many software that are stable when run under the KDE
[01:29] <TeraDyne> Most, if not all, KDE apps run just as well under GNOME as they do KDE.
[01:30] <arekanderu> I think it's working guys!
[01:31] <liuqinglai> Oh but I run KDevelop under the Gnome it face some problem
[01:33] <TeraDyne> liuqinglai: Like what?
[01:33] <arekanderu> Guys
[01:33] <arekanderu> I finally made it
[01:33] <arekanderu> It WERE the wrong drivers
[01:33] <liuqinglai> I don't know
[01:34] <arekanderu> But I changed them with the right ones
[01:34] <liuqinglai> I just switch from windows a bit time
[01:34] <The_Vox> I'm looking for a kernel 2.6.19 or newer for kubuntu 6.10...trying to get the stupid network on it working
[01:35] <The_Vox> anybody got a clue of where I could get that? or will I need to compile a kernel.org?
[01:35] <TeraDyne> liuqinglai: Getting used to the differences in Linux takes time. Give it a bit to sink in, you'll get used to it.
[01:36] <liuqinglai> I want it will be so
[01:37] <stdin> The_Vox: why not just upgrade to feisty, it uses 2.6.20?
[01:39] <The_Vox> stdin: 'cause I had planned on doing a network upgrade...except I didn't count with the fact that the 6.10 kernel doesn't support the stupid integrated network card of that puter
[01:39] <Ace2016> stdin: wouldn't just installing feisty 2.6.20 debs in edgy work?
[01:40] <The_Vox> Ace2016: that's what I'm thinking....can somebody supply me with the name of the kernel's deb so I can google it?
[01:41] <stdin> The_Vox: it's at <http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/l/linux-source-2.6.20/linux-image-2.6.20-16-generic_2.6.20-16.29_i386.deb>
[01:41] <Sanne> The_Vox: you can search for package names at packages.ubuntu.com
[01:42] <lyynox> hi fellas
[01:42] <The_Vox> thanks, stdin
[01:42] <lyynox> how am I supposed to use 915resolution package
[01:42] <lyynox> thanks
[01:43] <The_Vox> Sanne: thanks too :)
[01:43] <Sanne> :)
[01:44] <stdin> lyynox: you need to edit /etc/default/915resolution
[01:44] <lyynox> stdin: edit to what?
[01:44] <stdin> lyynox: it's explained in the file
[01:45] <lyynox> by the way my splash isn't showing up, am I supposed to edit grub?
[01:45] <lyynox> stdin: okis
[01:45] <lyynox> how about during boot, the stuff isn't showing up
[01:45] <stdin> lyynox: make sure you have the splash option in your menu.lst
[01:51] <lyes> hello
[01:52] <lyes> salut !!
[01:58] <Nyle> is it possible to somehow install kde 3.5.7 on kubuntu?
[01:58] <Nyle> I just downloaded the cd of kubuntu 4.07 and I only see kde 3.5.6 on it
[01:58] <Nyle> 7.04
[01:58] <Darkrift> !vmware
[01:58] <ubotu> VMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository (package "vmware-player"), and http://www.easyvmx.com/easyvmx.shtml can create VMs for it. For VMWare Server, instructions can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VMware - See also !virtualizers
[01:58] <Ace2016> The_Vox: you can get debs here http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/l/   but i'm not sure if it'll work
[01:58] <Daisuke_Ido> Nyle: there are repos to install 3.5.7
[01:59] <Ace2016> well the kernel usually doesn't depend on anything else but i don't have that much knowledge about it
[01:59] <vzduch> !kde
[01:59] <ubotu> KDE (http://kde.org) is the !desktop environment used natively in !Kubuntu. To install from Ubuntu:  sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop , or see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingKDE) . Latest KDE version is 3.5.7 for Feisty, 3.5.6 for Edgy, and 3.5.5 for Dapper. See http://kubuntu.org) for more information.
[01:59] <Daisuke_Ido> http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-357.php
[01:59] <Nyle> oh its on the internet?
[01:59] <Nyle> but not on the cd?
[01:59] <Daisuke_Ido> nope
[02:00] <Daisuke_Ido> because 3.5.6 was current as of feisty's release, that's what was included
[02:00] <Nyle> ohhh
[02:00] <Nyle> that makes sense
[02:00] <vzduch> the CD was mastered in April
[02:00] <Nyle> is it ok to ask kubuntu questions in ubuntu or not?
[02:00] <[Al] chemist_ex> can someone help with my sound?   I have my instrument playing through my speakers pluged into the from mic.  I can hear it through the speakers, but I can't for the life of me record from it!
[02:01] <Nyle> or do I have to restrict myself from #ubuntu and only ask here?
[02:01] <Nyle> the live cd is installing right now, however I ran into a problem when I booted the live cd on my pc
[02:01] <Daisuke_Ido> Nyle: kubuntu-specific questions are better off here
[02:01] <Nyle> I was supposed to get a kde desktop on the kubuntu 7.04 cd but I didn't
[02:02] <Nyle> instead I was given a completely blank screen with the cursor blinking in top left
[02:02] <Daisuke_Ido> that's odd.
[02:02] <Nyle> I had to go to alt+f1 and do 'startx'
[02:02] <Nyle> I have an X1900XTX it doesn't work with anything but fglrx or vesa
[02:02] <Nyle> kubuntu uses which driver for video on the live cd?
[02:03] <Nyle> becuase I saw the entire screen scrambled up and then black
[02:03] <Nyle> after which I did as I said
[02:03] <stdin> Nyle: it would use "ati" or "radion", the free drivers
[02:03] <intelikey> i have a "unbootable" issue with dapper drake.  http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/37950
[02:04] <Daisuke_Ido> which don't support the newest cards, i don't think
[02:04] <Nyle> those drivers don't work this card
[02:04] <Nyle> s/work/drive
[02:04] <chalabera> !fonts
[02:04] <ubotu> Font installation basics here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FontInstallHowto - No fonts in Flash? Install "msttcorefonts" (from !Multiverse), "gsfonts", and "gsfonts-x11". No fonts in MPlayer? see !MPlayer
[02:04] <intelikey> seems that it can't make a usable initrd.img because depmod is hosed  any clue-by-four ?
[02:04] <Nyle> I've always disliked ubuntu and have been a debian man
[02:04] <intelikey> error is: tty1 [root@~]  depmod
[02:04] <Nyle> but I've sucked it up and I've decided to give kubuntu a shot
[02:04] <intelikey> depmod: QM_MODULES: Function not implemented
[02:05] <Nyle> I've heard that 7.04 is really good
[02:05] <Daisuke_Ido> Nyle: better experience, IMO
[02:05] <Nyle> yeh, I think so too
[02:05] <Daisuke_Ido> been running kubuntu since last october
[02:05] <Daisuke_Ido> and never regretted it once
[02:05] <[Al] chemist_ex> so no one can help me with sound?
[02:05] <Nyle> I've always been partial to debian
[02:05] <Nyle> anyway, let me restart, i'll brb
[02:05] <chalabera> !freetype
[02:05] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about freetype - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:06] <vzduch> but Feisty is really nice
[02:06] <chalabera> what are those fonts open source that aren't installed by default? I think apples or something?
[02:06] <vzduch> chalabera: ?
[02:06] <vzduch> !info ttf-liberation
[02:06] <ubotu> Package ttf-liberation does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[02:07] <vzduch> wtf? the bot is not up to date, I have those installed..
[02:07] <Daisuke_Ido> vzduch: oh lord, comparing hoary to feisty is like comparing a chevette to a camaro
[02:07] <chalabera> not those ones something about freetype
[02:07] <Daisuke_Ido> not even fair
[02:07] <vzduch> chalabera: freetype is a font renderer, has nothing to do w/ the fonts themselves
[02:08] <chalabera> vzduch: is that isntalled by defult?
[02:08] <[Al] chemist_ex> am I even actually talking?  or did I identify not work?
[02:08] <vzduch> I guess so, all desktop environments depend on it
[02:08] <Nyle> back
[02:09] <Nyle> I need to install fglrx in ubuntu.  I use module-assistant to install the drivers in debian, how do I do it in kubuntu
[02:09] <TeraDyne> chalabera: are you talking about the mscore fonts?
[02:09] <vzduch> !ati | Nyle
[02:09] <ubotu> Nyle: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[02:10] <Nyle> hey
[02:10] <drgonzo_> hello all
[02:10] <chalabera> TeraDyne: no
[02:11] <Nyle> does 7.04 kubuntu have fglrx latest or should I go with ati.com drivers?
[02:11] <drgonzo_> is there somewhere to add suggestions to kubuntu releases?
[02:11] <chalabera> nevermind I     might be confusing things
[02:11] <drgonzo_> I personally think they should intergrate spambayes and kmail.
[02:11] <chalabera> what are Apples fonts package?
[02:11] <Nyle> which install method should I get is what I'm asking depending on which version of drivers is newest
[02:11] <Nyle> do you know?
[02:11] <drgonzo_> instead of spamassassin + bogo.
[02:12] <Daisuke_Ido> chalabera: type 1 fonts?
[02:12] <BluesKaj> Nyle, better yet try this , of course it depends on which ati card you have . If it's alower end onboard type this tutorial will do the trick. http://www.howforge.com/how-to-setup-fglrx-for-ubuntu-feisty
[02:12] <Nyle> I made a mistake bying this card
[02:12] <stdin> Nyle: go with the packaged version first, if that doesn't work then try the other one
[02:12] <Nyle> BluesKaj: X1900XTX 256MB GDDR3
[02:12] <chalabera> Daisuke_Ido: do you know the package name by any chance?
[02:12] <Daisuke_Ido> not a clue
[02:12] <pagan0ne> im having a very intresting poblem.... i am running kubuntu 7.04 x86 with nvidia drivers, when i boot into console, and login and then startx it all works, when i set it to load kdm on boot, it just hangs w/ black screen, unless i load the nv driver and it loads as normal, anyone have any ideas on what would cause this?
[02:12] <Daisuke_Ido> but that's what you're looking for?
[02:12] <chalabera> Daisuke_Ido: just have them for the sake of it
[02:13] <chalabera> !flash
[02:13] <pagan0ne> err i ment x64
[02:13] <ubotu> To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[02:13] <chalabera> wtf!! is not telling me the package name of flash
[02:14] <Nyle> 8.38.6 is in ati.amd.com.  How do I check which driver the fglrx package has in kubuntu?
[02:14] <BluesKaj> Nyle, eeeeueeww , you have a higher end , maybe the proprietary new ATI drivers for linux will work
[02:14] <Daisuke_Ido> t1-xfree86-nonfree?
[02:14] <BluesKaj> !ATI
[02:14] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[02:14] <BluesKaj> no that's not it
[02:14] <Nyle> BluesKaj: that doesn't help me
[02:14] <Nyle> :)
[02:14] <vzduch> good night :)
[02:14] <BluesKaj> yeah i'm aware
[02:15] <chalabera> Daisuke_Ido: you are genious thanks
[02:15] <BluesKaj> Nyle, try this  http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Feisty_Installation_Guide
[02:16] <Darkrift> woiw
[02:16] <Daisuke_Ido> nah, just a search in adept-manager :)
[02:16] <Darkrift> 10 minutes from setup-cd boot to installed windows xp boot in vmware
[02:16] <Darkrift> is it me or is that crazy fast
[02:16] <drgonzo_> mmm it seems kmail does have support for spambayes
[02:16] <drgonzo_> [Spamtool #5]
[02:16] <drgonzo_> Ident=spambayes
[02:17] <drgonzo_> in antispamrc file
[02:17] <BluesKaj> Nyle, , click on the 'latest"fglrx near the top of the page
[02:17] <drgonzo_> so why is it kmail doesn't detect it from the filter wizard?
[02:17] <Morkai> i am feeling like an idiot, what's the cmd to pm someone ?
[02:18] <Morkai> in irc
[02:18] <drgonzo_> ./msg
[02:18] <drgonzo_> without the dot
[02:18] <Nyle> I can't just do aptitude install fglrx module-assistant && sudo m-a prepare && sudo m-a a-i fglrx && sudo modprobe fglrx?
[02:18] <Morkai> cool thanks, i remember it was something like /w or /pm or something but i musta been thinking about an online game or something !
[02:18] <Daisuke_Ido> mmmkay, i'm trying to figure out how to do a video screencap contact sheet (like so: http://img113.imageshack.us/img113/6079/magi15ok.jpg ).  that particular output is from media player classic in windows, is there a way to do this that anyone here knows?  i would have thought VLC would have that sort of capability, but apparently not :\
[02:19] <Nyle> do I have to go through all that reading?
[02:19] <Nyle> :(
[02:19] <Nyle> in debian it is as simple as this, this readin is gonna kill me man
[02:19] <BluesKaj> well Nyle, try it yer way and see if it works :)
[02:19] <Daisuke_Ido> Nyle: it's just the new video card.  more or less unsupported right now :)
[02:20] <Nyle> it works just as it should in debian
[02:20] <Morkai> anyonew have any experiance with beryl in kubuntu and nvidia cards ?
[02:20] <BluesKaj> it is supported on the page i just posted Daisuke_Ido
[02:21] <chalabera> what's the flash pkg name?
[02:22] <Darkrift> anyone know how to get files info a vmware image that has no working networking?
[02:22] <BluesKaj> he just has to  click on the 'latest"fglrx near the top of the page , it' ll take him the downloads link
[02:22] <Darkrift> lol
[02:23] <drgonzo_> ok figured out a workaround
[02:23] <drgonzo_> should i post it to bugs ?
[02:24] <BluesKaj> Nyle, just click on the latest driver http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Category:Releases... 8.38.6
[02:27] <alejandro> me podrian ayudar de como montar dispositivos nts
[02:28] <Daisuke_Ido> BluesKaj: groovy :D
[02:28] <BluesKaj> !es | alejandro
[02:28] <ubotu> alejandro: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[02:28] <Daisuke_Ido> now, got a solution for me? :D
[02:28] <pagan0ne> im having a very intresting poblem.... i am running kubuntu 7.04 x64 with nvidia drivers, when i boot into console, and login and then startx it all works, when i set it to load kdm on boot, it just hangs w/ black screen, unless i load the nv driver and it loads as normal, anyone have any ideas on what would cause this?
[02:29] <Morkai> i had that problem, but it was soon after i installed, so i just reinstalled and it worked lol sorry no help, i know :/
[02:30] <CrunchyFerrett> ...
[02:30] <CrunchyFerrett> I wonder
[02:30] <CrunchyFerrett> !en
[02:30] <ubotu> The #ubuntu, #kubuntu and #xubuntu channels are english only. For a complete list of channels in other languages, please visit http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat
[02:30] <BluesKaj> Daisuke_Ido, yeah right ...i just have a bit of knowledge about the crappy ati stuff
[02:31] <Daisuke_Ido> i'm sure there's a way, even if it involves making mplayer take stills at a selected interval and using something else to automatically composite them with file info at the top...
[02:31] <Daisuke_Ido> i would obviously prefer something a bit simpler, but meh
[02:31] <Nyle> under fglrx mplayer can't use vo xv
[02:31] <Nyle> only x11
[02:31] <Nyle> its garbage
[02:31] <Nyle> :(
[02:31] <Nyle> goddamn ati
[02:31] <Nyle> I just use gl2 w/multiple textures
[02:31] <Daisuke_Ido> Nyle: you've just discovered the most common phrase uttered by any linux user.
[02:32] <Nyle> well, I bought this card specifically for Oblivion
[02:32] <BluesKaj> did you check my last post direct at you Nyle ?
[02:32] <Nyle> this card topped out any 7series geforece for 200$ last year
[02:32] <Nyle> much higher oblivion framerates so I bought it
[02:32] <Nyle> when I bought it, it was runing 90C+ in 3d mode
[02:32] <intelikey> ok guys.  the security updates had a new version of the 2.5.15-28 kernel so i updated   "spent 3 hours downloading it." it's the same version so it doesn't make a new /lib/modules/dir  and for some reason depmod fails and therefore the initramfs.img installed over the top of the old one is not usable. end result 'system is now unbootable'   what now ?
[02:32] <Daisuke_Ido> O_O
[02:32] <Daisuke_Ido> little high
[02:33] <Nyle> I had to take the heatsink off and rebuff the copper, and use arctic silver and I brought it down to 70C~ish
[02:33] <Daisuke_Ido> i'm not really a hardcore gamer, i love my lil 7600
[02:33] <Nyle> I'm not hardcore
[02:33] <Nyle> I just play oblivion
[02:33] <Daisuke_Ido> AS5 is the best thing since sliced bread
[02:33] <Nyle> dude
[02:33] <Nyle> sliced bread isn't that great
[02:33] <Nyle> whats so great about sliced bread?
[02:33] <Daisuke_Ido> i know, it's a nice saying though.
[02:33] <Nyle> you have a loaf of bread, and you have a knife
[02:34] <Nyle> slice the friggin thing eh
[02:34] <Daisuke_Ido> forget all the great inventions in the past 2000 years
[02:34] <Daisuke_Ido> sliced bread  this is what it all comes down to?
[02:34] <Nyle> lol
[02:34] <Daisuke_Ido> carlin :)
[02:34] <Nyle> Its a george carlin joke
[02:34] <Nyle> word!
[02:34] <word> NOOOO
[02:35] <Nyle> word: omg!
[02:35] <Nyle> I didn't know you were an ubuntu user
[02:35] <Nyle> whats up buddy long time no see
[02:35] <BluesKaj> Nyle, did you get this  latest driver http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Category:Releases... 8.38.6
[02:35] <Nyle> BluesKaj: well I download the ati driver, ran the binary, installed the driver, modified xorg.conf and now I'm trying to figure out if i need to install any other packages or not
[02:35] <Nyle> there were no errors
[02:36] <Nyle> so I think everything worked fine, lets just restart X and find out eh
[02:36] <K-Ryan> Pssst
[02:36] <Nyle> but before that, I'm doing a dist-upgrade
[02:36] <K-Ryan> I'm installing Kubuntu on another computer and it's been a while
[02:36] <K-Ryan> If I want a specific boot partition what do I type in for the mount point
[02:36] <K-Ryan> in step 5
[02:36] <BluesKaj> Nyle, does fgl_glxgears run ok
[02:37] <intelikey> K-Ryan /boot
[02:37] <K-Ryan> Right, thanks
[02:37] <Nyle> BluesKaj: dunno
[02:37] <Nyle> BluesKaj: I have not restarted X with fglrx yet
[02:37] <word> Nyle i have no idea who you are
[02:37] <Nyle> still on vesa
[02:37] <Nyle> word: from #hardware man
[02:37] <Nyle> I'm stoned
[02:37] <word> oooo
[02:37] <Nyle> :)
[02:37] <word> OOOOO
[02:37] <Nyle> ;D
[02:37] <word> scary
[02:37] <Daisuke_Ido> settle down...
[02:38] <Darkrift> anyone here use vmware to run xp?
[02:38] <word> stoned eats babies!
[02:38] <Nyle> get in ma belly!
[02:38] <graff> alguem fala portugues
[02:38] <Daisuke_Ido> there's always #kubuntu-offtopic
[02:38] <BluesKaj> !pt
[02:38] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigado.
[02:39] <Nyle> man this core2duo cpu is hot
[02:39] <Nyle> blazing fast man
[02:39] <Nyle> hey I just apt getted upgraded and it download all 3.5.6 packages of kde
[02:40] <Nyle> what gives, I want 3.5.7
[02:40] <Nyle> do i need specific kubuntu repository or the ubuntu ones for 7.04 are not good?
[02:40] <Nyle> whats going on
[02:41] <Nyle> !kde
[02:41] <ubotu> KDE (http://kde.org) is the !desktop environment used natively in !Kubuntu. To install from Ubuntu:  sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop , or see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingKDE) . Latest KDE version is 3.5.7 for Feisty, 3.5.6 for Edgy, and 3.5.5 for Dapper. See http://kubuntu.org) for more information.
[02:41] <chalabera> what's the java plug in for Mozilla? I think I'ev installed the wrong one  .../j2re1.4_<IP_ADDRESS>-1ubuntu3_i386.deb
[02:41] <chalabera> sorry this one j2re1.4-mozilla-plugin
[02:41] <intelikey> !java
[02:41] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre. Please don't use Adept to install Java if you are on Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) or earlier.
[02:42] <chalabera> that's not wahat I am talking about
[02:42] <chalabera> I am talkin about the firefox java plugin
[02:43] <intelikey> no boot,    can't boot,   hung boot.   !
[02:44] <intelikey> who cares,   who knows,    why bother   !
[02:45] <intelikey> and BTW,  it seems that there is one constant,  "you reap what others have sown..."
[02:46] <BluesKaj> here's the debs for kde357 : http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-357.php
[02:47] <rustalot> how do I tell kontact to use my GPG key?
[02:48] <chalabera> woot
[02:48] <chalabera> I've got java webstart 1.4 and java 6 web start
[02:48] <Nyle> BluesKaj: thank you
[02:49] <Nyle> These packages are not well supported.??
[02:49] <Nyle> 3.5.7 is not stable?
[02:49] <BluesKaj> mine works fine
[02:51] <jhutchins> Nyle: It's a lot of work, and the devs are focusing on the next kubuntu instead of backporting every increment of KDE.
[02:51] <jhutchins> Mine works with a couple of bugs I need to file.
[02:51] <quinton_> alright
[02:52] <quinton_> I put in the sudo you gave me
[02:52] <quinton_> it said
[02:52] <quinton_> OK
[02:53] <quinton_> -.-''
[02:55] <quinton_> ?
[03:00] <chalabera> hi
[03:00] <chalabera> nobody likes koffice? Is it in development or not?
[03:01] <K-Ryan> Room's awfully quiet...
[03:01] <TrueFX> hi guys
[03:01] <theurs_> it crashes often
[03:01] <K-Ryan> Anyone know why the Kubuntu installer would hang at 6% on "Completely removed ntfsprogs" ?
[03:01] <TrueFX> how can i aget all the .txt files in a remote http server
[03:01] <TrueFX> ?
[03:01] <K-Ryan> TrueFX, ssh?
[03:01] <TrueFX> i wnat to dl www.ietf.org/rfc/*.txt
[03:02] <TrueFX> ?
[03:02] <K-Ryan> Oh, download them
[03:02] <TrueFX> yep to dl all of them?
[03:02] <TrueFX> how can i do that?
[03:02] <TrueFX> http://ietf.org/rfc/*.txt
[03:02] <K-Ryan> Not sure
[03:02] <TrueFX> ?
[03:02] <K-Ryan> Wait around though
[03:03] <chalabera> theurs_: was that answer to me?
[03:03] <NickPresta> I tried to edit my partition table with QTparted found on the Edgy LiveCD. This appears to have messed up my partition table (I tried to resize my extended partition, which appears to have failed), and GRUB is throwing error 17. I already attempted to use the grub shell to restore GRUB but I still get error 17. Any help is appreciated.
[03:03] <chalabera> I was asking if koffice is being in development or not
[03:03] <chalabera> NickPresta: next time use LVM
[03:04] <NickPresta> !lvm
[03:04] <ubotu> Tips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RaidConfigurationHowto and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO
[03:04] <chalabera> NickPresta: in fact, this is a good lesson to start with LVM
[03:04] <theurs_> koffice is nice but it unstable
[03:04] <chalabera> NickPresta: just put EVERYTHING inside lvm except for /boot. Also root --> /
[03:05] <chalabera> theurs_: oh man, how long it'll take to make it stable?
[03:05] <theurs_> use openofice
[03:07] <NickPresta> chalabera: "root on LV should be used by advanced users only". While I can see from the LVM website, the benefits are vast, I am in need of my system now. I will read up on LVM and make the apropriate changes. Right now, I would appreciated it if you had any tips on getting back my system without using LVM.
[03:09] <chalabera> NickPresta: root on LVM is just as any other LVM partition, just set the mount point to / that's all
[03:09] <chalabera> NickPresta: I don't know who started spreading FUD about root in LVM
[03:10] <chalabera> NickPresta: besides Ubuntu isntallation handles this automatically. I've installed several Ubuntus with LVM and I put root in LVM everytimg
[03:10] <chalabera> time
[03:12] <NickPresta> chalabera: I understand. I consider myself fairly knowledgable and able to learn but I'venever come across this problem with GRUB before and I don't really understand what my options are, short of using the grub shell to "setup" grub on /dev/sda5. I read somewhere that my partition tables could be incorrect, where can I view them?
[03:12] <alejandro> holac
[03:13] <alejandro> Makeda
[03:13] <chalabera> NickPresta: use live cd and mount them
[03:14] <NickPresta> well, I can mount the partitions just fine. Apparently, error 17 means that GRUB thinks whichever partition it's trying to boot from isn't bootable. I thought I could manually edit the partition table and set the boot flag on /dev/sda5 (my root partition)
[03:16] <NickPresta> after reading some more, would, in the grub shell, using "chainloader +1", "makeactive", and "boot" on my "root (hd0,4)" solve my problem?
[03:18] <chalabera> what is it m$$$ XP?
[03:18] <NickPresta> microsoft XP is my other operating system installed
[03:18] <chalabera> which one is giving you the error
[03:19] <NickPresta> what do you mean?
[03:19] <NickPresta> when I start my computer, it loads grub which gives me the option to boot into kubuntu or windows
[03:20] <NickPresta> allow me to reboot and try this. I shall be back..
[03:21] <Daisuke_Ido> chalabera: MS.  there's no need to use $$$ in the name.  it's implied already
[03:23] <chalabera> Daisuke_Ido: who has established that there's no need?  It resides in the mutiverse repository and can easily be installed via applications -> add/remove.  Guess what 100% of them with XP BENT OUTTA SHAPE.Just outrageous how such a company is cashing in on a crappy software that isn't supposed to do the stuff is supposed to do for the ppl. So I resort to wiping it out and install linux :'-)
[03:35] <cuadrocg> hola como estan??
[03:36] <chalabera> callate gilipollas
[03:36] <cuadrocg> jajaja
[03:36] <cuadrocg> pinche we
[03:36] <cuadrocg> k verga quieres _
[03:36] <barkeeri> can some one help me
[03:36] <chalabera> no soy marica patooo!!
[03:36] <barkeeri> english anyone?
[03:36] <cuadrocg> pos lo pareces por lo rosita
[03:37] <BluesKaj> !es | cuadrocg
[03:37] <ubotu> cuadrocg: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[03:42] <barkeeri> helllllo
[03:42] <barkeeri> can someone help me
[03:43] <BluesKaj> barkeeri, just ask yer question
[03:44] <SHOKER> HOLA
[03:44] <chalabera> is there a package to play Real Player files? I don't wanna install Real Player at all
[03:45] <stdin> chalabera: then you'd need the w32codecs package I think
[03:45] <BluesKaj> helix
[03:45] <stdin> chalabera: it's not in the standard repos
[03:45] <stdin> !w32codecs
[03:45] <ubotu> Seveas has a popular 3rd party repository for several packages, including the win32 codecs: see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - See also !Codecs
[03:45] <chalabera> stdin: got it already
[03:45] <chalabera> from medibuntu
[03:46] <barkeeri> new to this whole linux, how do i install programs
[03:46] <barkeeri> like aol i have dl it but how to i get it to run a wizard
[03:46] <chalabera> oh my god!! I didn't install ffmpeg o.O
[03:46] <stdin> !apt
[03:46] <ubotu> APT is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto - Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)
[03:46] <stdin> !adept
[03:46] <ubotu> adept is the Kubuntu package manager. Howto: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AdeptHowto
[03:46] <BluesKaj> !helix
[03:46] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about helix - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:47] <chalabera> still I don't trust helix
[03:47] <chalabera> shady move by RealPlayer
[03:47] <chalabera> is it FULLY open source?
[03:47] <stdin> helix is
[03:48] <stdin> but it doesn't have rtsp support and the like
[03:48] <stdin> I don't think anyway
[03:50] <BluesKaj> i don't use it ...just know that it's supposed to be realclone
[03:50] <kamui> :)
[03:51] <chalabera> mm... linux is gonna have a problem playing Blu-Ray, is there a decrypter program out there? An ubuntu package for that matter
[03:51] <chalabera> never mind
[03:51] <chalabera> I found the link already
[03:55] <santims> hello, i was wondering if there was a need for a Virus Scanner while using ubuntu????
[03:57] <stdin> sabakas1: no, you don't need one, and there isn't one anyway
[03:57] <chalabera> is it better using ALSA or ARTS, I forgot where bu I heard that KDE was discontinuing ARTS in favor of ALSA?
[03:57] <stdin> sabakas1: only one that scans windows files for windows viruses
[03:57] <stdin> chalabera: you seem a bit confused, aRts uses ALSA
[03:58] <Nyle> alsa is better
[03:58] <Nyle> arts is very very slow
[03:58] <Nyle> it lags majorly
[03:58] <Nyle> you are better off using alsa+dmix
[03:58] <Nyle> forget about arts unless you need the kde sounds to work
[03:59] <admin___> i need room in spanush
[03:59] <Nyle> and even then you can specify alsaplayer instead of kde to play those sounds
[03:59] <stdin> !es | admin___
[03:59] <ubotu> admin___: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[03:59] <chalabera> Nyle: what about jack?
[03:59] <Nyle> very good
[03:59] <Nyle> jack is the shiznit
[03:59] <chalabera> okis
[03:59] <NickPresta> chalabera, it turned out to be a: root (hd0, 4) and setup (hd0) solved my grub issue
[03:59] <Nyle> infact latest versions of alsa have software mixing enabled by default
[03:59] <NickPresta> now that I am back in my system. I'm interested in LVm, chalabera
[03:59] <NickPresta> LVM*
[04:00] <chalabera> hha ha good
[04:01] <chalabera> !jack
[04:01] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about jack - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:02] <Nyle> !jackd
[04:02] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about jackd - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:02] <hero> !snes9x
[04:02] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about snes9x - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:02] <hero> hm
[04:03] <stdin> kde4 will be using phonon to replace aRts
[04:04] <chalabera> and how is phonon based on
[04:05] <paknefia> hi
[04:05] <paknefia> salam
[04:06] <stdin> chalabera: it all uses ALSA, if it's not OSS, it's ALSA
[04:07] <chalabera> can't wait for KDE4!!!
[04:07] <stdin> Alpha2 came out recently
[04:07] <paknefia> any body know what must i use to detecting new hardware in ubuntu?
[04:07] <stdin> there is a Live-CD out, with PLASMA!
[04:08] <stdin> paknefia: nothing, it's detected by the kernel at boot
[04:08] <stdin> paknefia: or by HAL/DBUS
[04:08] <chalabera> stdin: w00t where!!!!!!!!!!!!
[04:08] <chalabera> I wanna donwload RIGHt NOW
[04:09] <stdin> chalabera: I'll get you a link
[04:09] <stdin> chalabera: http://download.kde.org/download.php?url=unstable/3.91.0/KDE-Four-Live/KDE-Four-Live.i686-0.2.iso
[04:09] <paknefia> my case is, i added new hot plug hard drive to my server
[04:09] <stdin> chalabera: it's an OpenSUSE based Live-CD
[04:10] <paknefia> and i dont want reboot my server
[04:10] <stdin> paknefia: try just restarting hal and dbus "/etc/init.d/dbus restart"
[04:10] <paknefia> ok..
[04:12] <stdin> chalabera: open akregator and you'll be subscribed to the KDE Dot News blog that announces the releases
[04:12] <kristjan_> stdin: I tried it some time ago, it didn't work
[04:13] <stdin> kristjan_: what, the alpha2 cd?
[04:13] <paknefia> stdin: no hal or dbus in my /etc/init.d/
[04:13] <chalabera> kmplayer isn't working properly with firefox, and I have to isntall mozilla-mplayer and in turn this one installs mplayer when I already have kmplayer
[04:13] <chalabera> wtf??
[04:13] <paknefia> should i install them first?
[04:13] <chalabera> stdin: I hope KDE4 will beat O$$ X Leopard
[04:14] <stdin> chalabera: target release date is in october
[04:14] <chalabera> same as Leopard
[04:14] <Nyle> how do I configure my sound in kubuntu? There is no alsaconf utility
[04:14] <chalabera> stdin: you got the link?
[04:14] <stdin> paknefia: make sure you have dbus and hal installed then
[04:14] <kristjan_> stdin: yeah it was alpha. not usable for end-user
[04:15] <nimble> I thought leopard was supposed to be released pretty soon.
[04:15] <stdin> kristjan_: Alpha2 was only released on the 4th
[04:16] <stdin> chalabera: http://techbase.kde.org/Schedules/KDE4/4.0_Release_Schedule
[04:16] <chalabera> stdin: no, the LiveCD
[04:16] <stdin> chalabera: I gave you the link
[04:17] <stdin> chalabera: http://download.kde.org/download.php?url=unstable/3.91.0/KDE-Four-Live/KDE-Four-Live.i686-0.2.iso
[04:17] <kristjan_> stdin: oh. then I will give it a try!
[04:17] <Nyle> hmm
[04:17] <Nyle> anyone?
[04:17] <Nyle> !sound
[04:17] <kristjan_> bot is dead?
[04:17] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[04:17] <stdin> kristjan_: it's not exactly stable, but it just about works :P and you get a preview of plasma and Amarok 2
[04:19] <chalabera> yikes!!! are there better fonts than sarif?
[04:19] <jasj_> hi
[04:19] <chalabera> sarif it's an eyesore on LCD
[04:20] <Tired_1> Does compiz/beryl work in Kubuntu Gutsy? Which packages are needed?
[04:20] <jasj_> i have a problem with keep my password(web) in the knetworkmanager program
[04:20] <stdin> Tired_1: ask in #ubuntu+1
[04:20] <Nyle> I turned arts off
[04:20] <Nyle> and now my sound works
[04:20] <jasj_> knetworkmanager
[04:20] <Tired_1> OK, thanks
[04:21] <jasj_> I  have a problem with keep my password(web) in the knetworkmanager program
[04:21] <stdin> knetworkmanager keeps your password in kwallel
[04:21] <stdin> *kwallet
[04:21] <Nyle> fglrx doesn't support composite or aiglx etc.  Is there any possible way to run beryl or compiz?
[04:21] <Nyle> do there exist Xgl on ubuntu, because its not packaged for debian
[04:21] <stdin> Nyle: use XGL
[04:21] <jasj_> YES, BUT KWALLET NEED OTHER PASSWORD
[04:21] <stdin> !caps | jasj_
[04:21] <ubotu> jasj_: PLEASE DON'T SHOUT!  I mean
[04:24] <Nyle> oh thats right, my ssh keys got wiped
[04:25] <jasj_> yes, but???
[04:25] <stdin> jasj_: like I said, you could have set it to be blank
[04:25] <jasj_> really, i can't
[04:25] <stdin> you could have, I did
[04:26] <stdin> if you didn't then you'd have to delete the wallet and start over
[04:26] <jasj_> i try when i uodate my kubuntu, but .... i cant
[04:26] <jasj_> ok
[04:26] <stdin> or just put the wep key in system settings
[04:27] <jasj_> how??
[04:28] <jasj_> okoko i did
[04:28] <jasj_> tanks
[04:28] <stdin> system settings -> Network Settings ->
[04:28] <stdin> put in the web key and SSID
[04:32] <Nyle> is there a w32codecs package in ubuntu?
[04:32] <Nyle> I migrated from debian and I dunno where half the things in ubuntu are
[04:32] <ardchoille> !info w32codecs
[04:32] <ubotu> w32codecs: Win32 codec binaries. In component extras, is optional. Version 20061022-1~seveas1 (feisty-seveas), package size 13920 kB, installed size 33580 kB (Only available for i386)
[04:32] <crimsun> no, there isn't.
[04:33] <crimsun> you can use a third-party repository, however.
[04:33] <Nyle> if I just get them from debian-multimedia it would work?
[04:33] <crimsun> probably.
[04:33] <Minataku> crimsun: Don't split pubes and confuse people :P
[04:33] <stdin> Nyle: yeah, it's all the same stuff
[04:33] <Nyle> word
[04:33] <Minataku> Nyle: w32codecs is available from !seveas
[04:33] <Nyle> thanks
[04:33] <Nyle> !seveas
[04:33] <ubotu> Seveas has a popular 3rd party repository for several packages. More info (and mirrors) on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[04:33] <ardchoille> Nyle: It's not a good idea to use packages from other distros
[04:34] <Minataku> Which will probably be far easier and less troublesome to do
[04:34] <Minataku> While *buntu is based on Debian I'm apt to doubt the differences are 100% compatible
[04:34] <Nyle> ardchoille: w32codecs are just binary codecs which get unpacked in /usr/lib/w32 etc.
[04:34] <stdin>  /usr/lib/codes actually
[04:35] <ardchoille> Nyle: It doesn't mater, it's best to stick with packages that were built for ubuntu
[04:35] <Nyle> ardchoille: yes
[04:39] <Nyle> fetching w32codecs now
[04:39] <Nyle> is kmplayer based on mplayer?
[04:39] <Nyle> I don't care what media player I use, I just need one where I can rewind/forward using mousewheel
[04:39] <Nyle> mplayer usually has these bindings in by default for mouse btns
[04:40] <Nyle> do you guys know of another player with similar functionality?
[04:40] <stdin> I just use standard mplayer
[04:40] <ardchoille> mplayer is q nice bit of kit, hard to find a better one.
[04:41] <stdin> VLC isn't bad too
[04:41] <stdin> ohh, and VLC from SVN uses Qt!!
[04:41] <ardchoille> vlc doesn't support closed captions
[04:43] <Nyle> I'll stick with mplayer
[04:43] <Nyle> I moved from debian, so my ~ contains all my configs from it
[04:44] <Nyle> hopefully I wouldn't have to configure anything in mplayer it should read my settings from ~/
[04:44] <jasj__> hi i reinstall my kwallet application, but i can not change the password, wath i have to do??
[04:44] <jasj__> tanks
[04:45] <stdin> jasj__: delete the wallet in kwalletmanager
[04:45] <ramy> hello
[04:45] <ramy> how i can connect to another server by konversation
[04:45] <ramy> ?????????????????????????????????????????????????
[04:45] <theurs_> !smplayer
[04:45] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about smplayer - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:46] <stdin> ramy: F7
[04:46] <Nyle> sweet
[04:46] <ramy> i have to know the host name ?
[04:46] <ramy> i want to get firstly the list of servers ?
[04:47] <stdin> that's not in konvi
[04:47] <Minataku>
[04:47] <Minataku> Well, some may
[04:47] <stdin> you can add a list to the server list (F2)
[04:47] <Nyle> what the shit?
[04:47] <Minataku> Not too likely in my experience, though
[04:47] <jasj__> ok i write in run comman kwalletmanager and the png change but, when I press intro, do not happen any thing
[04:47] <Nyle> Minataku: wth
[04:47] <nimble> Doesnt look like a nice font anyway really.
[04:48] <stdin> jasj__: look in the system tray
[04:48] <Nyle> Terminus ftw
[04:48] <Minataku> nimble: It's probably whatever junk Kubuntu defaults to when substituting
[04:48] <jasj__> yes i saw tanks ainga
[04:48] <jasj__> again
[04:48] <Minataku> It's fullwidth characters
[04:48] <nimble> Ah.
[04:49] <jasj__> perfect, tanks nyle
[04:51] <Nyle> terminus is the shizboo
[04:51] <Minataku>
[04:51] <Nyle> so is DejaVu Serif Condensed
[04:51] <Nyle> I can't live without these two fonts
[04:51] <Nyle> and kwin-baghira pwnz
[04:51] <NickPresta> Bitstream Vera Mono = my love. ;)
[04:53] <Nyle>
[04:53] <Nyle> ahh its backwards
[04:53] <Nyle> :(
[04:53] <Nyle> how do I make my language go fro right to left
[04:54] <Nyle>  is what I speak :D
[04:54] <Nyle> sweet, utf kicks bytt
[04:56] <Minataku> testing, hahaha!
[04:56] <Minataku> RLO - Right-to-Left Override
[04:56] <Morkai> anyone in here use beryl ?
[04:57] <Minataku>
[04:57] <hitmanWilly> Morkai: used to, whats the prob?
[05:00] <Morkai> sorry, ok i fixed my problem heh
[05:01] <hitmanWilly> :)
[05:01] <Morkai> i didn't know wherea setting was, so i waso n google when i asked
[05:01] <Morkai> two times the help i figure :P
[05:01] <Morkai> thanks for offering though heh
[05:01] <Morkai> just installed it and enjoying the awesomeness
[05:08] <hitmanWilly> quiet tonight...
[05:09] <klobster> too quiet for the girls
[05:09] <klobster> hey what are the gnome packages I need to run gnome junk in KDE?
[05:10] <stdin> klobster: just install the gnome/gtk app and it's dependencies will be installed too
[05:11] <klobster> I got this msg so I wasn't sure...
[05:11] <klobster> (gst-compprep-0.8:6374): libgnomevfs-WARNING **: Cannot load module `/usr/lib/gnome-vfs-2.0/modules/libhttp.so' (/usr/lib/gnome-vfs-2.0/modules/libhttp.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory)
[05:12] <stdin> klobster: ahh, that's gnome-vfs, the equivalent of kio-slaves
[05:12] <K-Ryan> Psssst
[05:12] <klobster> K-ryan, I think you sprung a leak
[05:13] <K-Ryan> =)
[05:13] <K-Ryan> I installed Kubuntu just now, well a few hours ago on an old hard drive.
[05:13] <K-Ryan> It's there, except I'm having quite some trouble
[05:13] <K-Ryan> Now, there was trouble getting Kubuntu to boot off the Live CD so I took the hard drive, put it in a different computer and installed it on the hard drive in the other computer.
[05:14] <K-Ryan> Took the hard drive out and put it in the computer I want it in.
[05:14] <klobster> stdin: is it something I should avoid installing?
[05:14] <K-Ryan> It started coming up with I/O buffer errors
[05:14] <K-Ryan> So I had it ignore, then rewrite
[05:14] <K-Ryan> Over and over and over
[05:14] <K-Ryan> Then more stuff
[05:14] <K-Ryan> over and over and over
[05:14] <K-Ryan> Now this time it looked like it was booting okay
[05:14] <stdin> klobster: no, you could even have both gnome and kde installed at the same time
[05:15] <Minataku> You can have a ton of WMs/DEs all at once
[05:15] <K-Ryan> It went to the terminal for a split second then to the kubuntu loading splash screen
[05:15] <stdin> K-Ryan: looks like there may be PFUs on the drive
[05:15] <K-Ryan> And it's hanging there
[05:15] <K-Ryan> PFU?
[05:15] <stdin> K-Ryan: Physical F*** Ups
[05:15] <stdin> :p
[05:15] <stdin> bad sectors and the like
[05:16] <K-Ryan> =(
[05:16] <stdin> that's normally what I/O errors are about
[05:16] <Minataku> What are the errors?
[05:17] <K-Ryan> I don't know, I don't see them now
[05:17] <Minataku> Give them here, they should have descriptions
[05:17] <Minataku> Look in dmesg
[05:17] <Minataku> They're saved there
[05:17] <K-Ryan> I can't look anywhere
[05:17] <K-Ryan> It's hanging at the loading thing
[05:18] <chipbuddy> so i'm using ubuntu... but that channel is hella crowded... and this kubuntu channel is cooler anyway.
[05:18] <chipbuddy> i just got 2 monitors working by editing xorg.conf, but beryl doesn't want to work anymore
[05:19] <klobster> not cool enough to run KDE :(
[05:19] <stdin> chipbuddy: best place to ask about dual monitors + beryl is in #beryl
[05:19] <chipbuddy> thanks stdin
[05:20] <stdin> maybe when I get a stable X I'll try beryl with multiple displays
[05:28] <Minataku> ---------------
[05:43] <makuseru> hi, i have a HP DVD Writer, and it burns CDs fine, and it reads DVDs fine, but  when ever i try to burn a DVD it wont do it, it just gives me errors. Ive tried K3B, Nero For Linux, and a few other programs, what could be causing this?
[05:45] <K-Ryan> The DVDs are good?
[05:47] <makuseru> the blanks i have?
[05:47] <chalabera> how can i receive Yahoo mail in Kontact?
[05:47] <chalabera> thanks
[05:47] <K-Ryan> Yeah the blanks, they're good right?
[05:47] <makuseru> yes
[05:47] <K-Ryan> Strange, I'm not good with that stuff though, sorry
[05:48] <makuseru> brand new memorex dvds+r
[05:48] <theurs_> show errors
[05:48] <makuseru> i dont remember what they were, ill need to try to burn one again
[05:48] <makuseru> ill do that now
[05:48] <Minataku> Hm
[05:48] <chalabera> can I recieve mail from AOL, Yahoo and Hotmail with Kontact?
[05:49] <Minataku> makuseru: Which HP?
[05:49] <makuseru> lemme check
[05:49] <Minataku> I've got a DVD740, last I tried to use it, it failed entirely, Linux refused to access ut
[05:49] <Minataku> *it
[05:49] <makuseru> dvd writer dvd200i
[05:49] <Minataku> though that's probably something stupid I did
[05:49] <Minataku> Ah
[05:50] <Minataku> On the plus side, the internal CD burner works
[05:50] <Minataku> So I haven't tried to fix it yet
[05:50] <Minataku> XD
[05:50] <makuseru> mine burns CDs fine too
[05:51] <makuseru> its a dvd 200j not i
[05:51] <hitmanWilly> chalabera: should support any pop3/imap acct, if it has mail functionality
[05:52] <hitmanWilly> !info kontact
[05:52] <ubotu> kontact: KDE pim application. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.6-0ubuntu6 (feisty), package size 1596 kB, installed size 3436 kB
[05:52] <Nyle> wow
[05:52] <Nyle> I like kubuntu
[05:52] <Nyle> I tried 5 and 6
[05:52] <Nyle> but 7.04 is bomb
[05:52] <Minataku> I've got a NetBSD/sgimips machine running :3
[05:53] <Minataku> How many of you can say that!?
[05:53] <Minataku> Sorry... I'm bored
[05:53] <Nyle> I've got two sparcs
[05:53] <Minataku> What kind?
[05:53] <Nyle> old old old
[05:53] <stdin> the BSDs are insane
[05:53] <Nyle> this guy i knew from cyberarmy
[05:53] <Minataku> BTW, those aren't sgimips but cool anyway
[05:53] <Nyle> he sold it to me at college
[05:53] <Minataku> Nice
[05:53] <Minataku> Nyle: Got 'em nearby? I'd love to know what kind
[05:54] <Minataku> I've got the following: SPARCstation 5/170, SPARCstation 10, Ultra 1, Ultra 2, Ultra 5
[05:54] <Minataku> I also have in waiting a SPARCstation 2 and a SPARCbook 3GX
[05:54] <hitmanWilly> BSD is actual Unix ported to the PC vice a clone written from scratch, so it will be a little more intensive :P
[05:54] <Nyle> they are in my attic
[05:55] <Minataku> Current BSDs have no AT&T code
[05:55] <hitmanWilly> really? i thought they still had that in there....
[05:55] <Minataku> Actually, the modern BSDs are forked from 386BSD
[05:55] <Minataku> Which was a BSD clone, IINM
[05:55] <Minataku> Well, it may have been a port
[05:55] <Minataku> I'm not quite sure
[05:55] <stdin> depends if the AT&T code is under the BSD license
[05:55] <Minataku> But yeah, the open source BSDs are devoid of USL code
[05:56] <Minataku> USL being Unix Systems Laboratories
[05:56] <hitmanWilly> i thought the original BSD was basically a Unix port for academia, which is why the license is like it is
[05:57] <Minataku> The original BSD was based off of 6th Edition Unix
[05:57] <Minataku> Which was acquired under educational license by UCB from AT&T/Bell Labs
[05:57] <Nyle> Minataku: ultra5 sparc
[05:57] <hitmanWilly> but to be fair, I really don't know much on the subject
[05:57] <Nyle> IIi
[05:57] <Minataku> Nyle: Not bad
[05:58] <Minataku> Yeah, the cheapo Suns used the UltraSPARC-IIi modules
[05:58] <Minataku> The cheapo ones being the Ultra 5 and Ultra 10
[05:58] <Nyle> I bought it for 50 bucks
[05:58] <Minataku> Not too bad
[05:58] <Minataku> Considering it's original worth was 100x that
[05:59] <Minataku> My Ultra 5 was donated to me free of charge
[05:59] <Nyle> well
[05:59] <Nyle> I also have 3 blue leviathans
[05:59] <Nyle> 3 alpha black lotus cards
[05:59] <Minataku> ??
[05:59] <Nyle> and some other rare MTG cards
[05:59] <Nyle> magic the gathering
[05:59] <Minataku> lol
[05:59] <Nyle> :D
[06:00] <hitmanWilly> ok, for a minute there, i thought i was WAY out of my league :P
[06:00] <Minataku> Yeah, he changed topic all of a sudden XD
[06:00] <Minataku> Confused the hell outta me
[06:01] <hitmanWilly> i was actually thinking the blue leviathon was some sort of obscure refence to IBM iron :)
[06:02] <Minataku> Heh, same
[06:02] <makuseru> i have a DVD burning now so i can see errors
[06:03] <hitmanWilly> makuseru: if its generating a log file, that helps as well, so you can dig through it later
[06:05] <makuseru> does K3B do that?
[06:06] <hitmanWilly> makuseru: i would think so
[06:07] <makuseru> where
[06:07] <makuseru> does it put it
[06:07] <hitmanWilly> not sure, hold on...
[06:07] <makuseru> alright
[06:09] <makuseru> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/28755/ error report from K3B
[06:09] <hitmanWilly> makuseru: ok, probably with the project...
[06:10] <klobster> whay cant I have totem-xine and totem-gstreamer at the same time?
[06:10] <hitmanWilly> looks like it can't write to the disk for some reason
[06:11] <hitmanWilly> makuseru: or even access it...
[06:12] <hitmanWilly> makuseru: can you try with cdrecord by itself?
[06:12] <chalabera> I hate java apps
[06:12] <chalabera> they are glitchy as hell
[06:13] <chalabera> why code on that crap of language?
[06:13] <TheSource> hey i just installed kubuntu
[06:13] <TheSource> no clue how to install java
[06:13] <TheSource> for firefox
[06:13] <hitmanWilly> it used to be the only distributed language avilable
[06:13] <stdin> TheSource: install "sun-java6-plugin"
[06:13] <TheSource> ahhhh
[06:13] <chalabera> OOPS, your java version is too old [java = 1.4.2-02]
[06:13] <chalabera> oh ok
[06:13] <chalabera> I know now why it wasn't working
[06:14] <stdin> chalabera: sudo update-alternatives --config java
[06:14] <makuseru> hitmanWilly: what is cdrecord?
[06:14] <stdin> chalabera: then do "java -version" to check
[06:14] <hitmanWilly> makuseru: its a cmd line tool to burn cds,
[06:15] <hitmanWilly> !info cdrecord
[06:15] <ubotu> cdrecord: Dummy transition package for wodim. In component main, is optional. Version 9:1.1.2-1 (feisty), package size 1 kB, installed size 36 kB
[06:15] <makuseru> how would i use it to try to burn a cd?
[06:15] <chalabera> stdin: thanks it worked
[06:15] <hitmanWilly> makuseru: cdrecord --help should give a list of options
[06:16] <makuseru> alright
[06:17] <chalabera> hey I wonde why Java apps take insanely ammounts of RAM?
[06:18] <stdin> because it's java
[06:20] <pfein> I've lost (quit) the little systray applet that tells me my battery level... how do I get it back?
[06:20] <stdin> try running "guidance-power-manager"
[06:22] <Dr_willis> Right click on the panel, use the add applet thang?
[06:23] <stdin> it's not an applet
[06:23] <hitmanWilly> i don't understand why anybody would use java anymore, with python available
[06:23] <stdin> "as such"
[06:24] <saucisson> bye bye everyone :D
[06:24] <Dr_willis> because they understand java , and dont know python. :)
[06:24] <saucisson> ciao
[06:24] <Dr_willis> I dont know either very well.. so i'll use REXX !
[06:24] <hitmanWilly> that's probably it, but python has a pretty shallow learning curve
[06:25] <hitmanWilly> oh well
[06:25] <pfein> stdin: yeah, that was it
[06:26] <pfein> stdin: yeah, that was it
[06:26] <stdin> echo... echo....
[06:27] <pfein> stdin: yeah, it's not in the add applet thing, or any menu.
[06:27] <Dr_willis> the whole 'OOP' type programing stuff.. eludes me. :) I learned programing on a C64 ages ago.. with flowcharts and GOTO's!
[06:28] <chalabera> ok his is retarded, Kmail is not installed as default in Kubuntu? What else KDE4 is being chopped off?
[06:28] <theurs_> why not use gmail web
[06:29] <hitmanWilly> theurs_: cause some of us don't have gmail accts :P
[06:29] <makuseru> hitmanWilly: i dont understand how to use that
[06:29] <Dr_willis> soon to be renamed perhaps somthing OTHER then gmail. :)
[06:29] <pfein> stdin: #kde suggested kpowersave, what's the diff?
[06:29] <stdin> gmail = google mail
[06:30] <hitmanWilly> makuseru: ok, don't worry about it then, i think k3b is a frontend for it anyway
[06:30] <klobster> I use gmail IN kmail...
[06:30] <makuseru> well what can i do to burn a DVD?
[06:30] <hitmanWilly> makuseru: have you tried running k3b with kdesu to make sure it isn't a perms issue?
[06:30] <Dr_willis> makuseru,  i use k3b
[06:30] <stdin> pfein: kpowersave is a different app alltogether, guidence is a backend, so works on ubuntu and kubuntu etc
[06:31] <makuseru> i havent tried that
[06:31] <makuseru> ill try now
[06:31] <pfein> stdin: yeah... any preference for one or the other?
[06:32] <stdin> pfein: I just use guidance, does what I need it to do
[06:32] <stdin> pfein: but k powersave shares a lot of the same features
[06:32] <stdin> and it may even tie in with KDE better, not sure
[06:33] <stdin> btw, expect longer battery life in Gutsy with the tickless kernel
[06:34] <K`zan> Hi folks, adept hung and I had to kill it and now it still thinks it is running (even after a reboot), I looked at /var/lock and nothing there - any suggestions on how to clear this appreciated!
[06:34] <K`zan> l .kde
[06:34] <Dr_willis> !fixadept
[06:35] <ubotu> If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a
[06:35] <pfein> stdin: thanks
[06:35] <ubuntu> trying out ubunto live cd.. however, I've found I can't direct connect with msger
[06:35] <K`zan> dpkg: --configure --pending does not take any non-option arguments
[06:35] <stdin> K`zan: if that fails, remove the file /var/lib/dpkg/lock
[06:36] <THEBlack0rchid> how can I direct connect via IM
[06:36] <K`zan> stdin: Worked, thank you Sir!  Now to see if I can install vmware-server without it hanging.
[06:37] <K-Ryan> THEBlack0rchid: It depends on the program, if the program can direct connect.
[06:37] <Dr_willis> THEBlack0rchid,  clarify what you are trying to do and with what programs
[06:37] <THEBlack0rchid> just using Konversation right now.. I don't see the option in that
[06:38] <Dr_willis> the various 'dcc' items do direct connections/chat/shares/transfers
[06:38] <THEBlack0rchid> what program will allow me (under ubunto) to direct connect with an AIM user
[06:38] <Dr_willis> But i havent used them in ages.
[06:38] <Dr_willis> AIM - is another story
[06:38] <Dr_willis> !aim
[06:38] <ubotu> Instant Messenger Clients: Gaim (GNOME, http://help.ubuntu.com/community/GaimHowto), Kopete (KDE), both supporting MSN, Jabber, AIM, Gadu-Gadu, Novell Groupwise, ICQ and IRC.
[06:38] <K-Ryan> Dunno about DCing
[06:38] <THEBlack0rchid> I guess I didn't see the option under kopete to dcc
[06:38] <K-Ryan> There isn't one is there?
[06:39] <THEBlack0rchid> not that I've seennn
[06:39] <THEBlack0rchid> seen
[06:39] <Dr_willis> No idea. I use Xchat. :)
[06:39] <Dr_willis> i havent dcc'd in ages
[06:39] <makuseru> same error using kdesu k3b
[06:39] <THEBlack0rchid> I use xchat for IRC usually..
[06:40] <THEBlack0rchid> but.. I need a dcc for an AIM user
[06:40] <hitmanWilly> does /dcc work?
[06:40] <Dr_willis> then you need an AIM client.. not irc.
[06:40] <THEBlack0rchid> nope.. the other user is under trillian
[06:40] <K-Ryan> Wine + AIM?
[06:40] <Dr_willis> gaim is nice i hear.
[06:40] <Dr_willis> i dont use aim much either. :)
[06:40] <makuseru> gaim is nice
[06:40] <Dr_willis> All the Cool Kids hang out on IRC>
[06:40] <THEBlack0rchid> I don't ever use AIm
[06:41] <makuseru> what do i do about my DVD Burner?
[06:41] <THEBlack0rchid> ok.. so gaim should do a dcc with an AIM user/trillian?
[06:41] <hitmanWilly> makuseru: it sounds like maybe a HW issue
[06:41] <makuseru> THEBlack0rchid: yes, it does
[06:41] <makuseru> HW?
[06:41] <hitmanWilly> hardware
[06:41] <makuseru> ah
[06:41] <THEBlack0rchid> k.. thank you sweetie
[06:41] <makuseru> but why would it burn a cd fine, and read a dvd fine but not burn a dvd?
[06:42] <Dr_willis> dosent dvd's use differnet laser? or am i confused.
[06:42] <makuseru> do they?
[06:42] <makuseru> i dont know
[06:42] <Dr_willis> I had a CD writer once that could read, but not write.
[06:42] <hitmanWilly> makuseru: ok, stupid question here, but it IS a dvd burner, correct?
[06:42] <Dr_willis> I was thinking one of its lasers went out.
[06:42] <makuseru> yes
[06:42] <Dr_willis> hitmanWilly,  :)
[06:42] <hitmanWilly> hey, you laugh...
[06:42] <makuseru> it says DVD Writer DVD 200j on the front of ir
[06:43] <Dr_willis> they are DVD+R and you dont need -R's ?
[06:43] <Dr_willis> or visa-versa
[06:43] <makuseru> they are +R
[06:43] <makuseru> ive tried -R's too though
[06:43] <Dr_willis> Got some old drives ehre that can only do -R's
[06:43] <makuseru> this is fairly new
[06:43] <K-Ryan> -R? +R? What's the difference?
[06:44] <hitmanWilly> K-Ryan: different encoding formats
[06:44] <K-Ryan> I honestly had no idea what it meant
[06:44] <K-Ryan> Really
[06:44] <Dr_willis> I got a few old laptops that cant read +R's
[06:44] <makuseru> me either
[06:44] <Dr_willis> Main Diff to me is 'what one is on sale this week'
[06:44] <Dr_willis> :)
[06:44] <makuseru> would a hammer fix it
[06:44] <makuseru> it fixes everything else
[06:45] <makuseru> sortof
[06:45] <hitmanWilly> makuseru: ok, im at a loss here, you may try googling the drive to see if there are any known issues under nix
[06:45] <makuseru> it makes me feel better
[06:45] <chalabera> hi
[06:45] <chalabera> it's telling me "no cddb found"
[06:45] <chalabera> k3b
[06:45] <chalabera> how do I donwload that?
[06:45] <makuseru> i think im just going to give up on it, the whole computer is a p.o.s, i need a new one
[06:46] <Dr_willis>  cddb - isent that the database for music files?
[06:46] <hitmanWilly> yup
[06:46] <Dr_willis> just use a shell-based front end to cdrecord! :0
[06:46] <Dr_willis> !find cdrecord
[06:46] <chalabera> Dr_willis: yeah but how do I download it?
[06:46] <ubotu> Found: cdrecord
[06:46] <chalabera> k3b is complaining about it
[06:46] <K-Ryan> Ahahahahaaha
[06:46] <K-Ryan> !botsnack
[06:46] <ubotu> Yum!  Or use some other ripper tool. :) I tend to use 'grip' myself.
[06:48] <chalabera> it won't rip without the database?
[06:48] <Dr_willis> ive never ripped a cd with k3b. Lets see.
[06:48] <Dr_willis> It access the online database,, to get the proper names/tracks/info
[06:48] <makuseru> i like kaffine for ripping
[06:48] <Dr_willis> If its a non-comercial cd. it may not be in the database
[06:49] <chalabera> ok i use kaffeine
[06:49] <Dr_willis> !find k3bmp3
[06:49] <ubotu> Package/file k3bmp3 does not exist in feisty
[06:49] <Dr_willis> infolibk3b2-mp3
[06:49] <Dr_willis> !infolibk3b2-mp3
[06:49] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about infolibk3b2-mp3 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:50] <hitmanWilly> chalabera: ok, go into settings --> configure k3b --> cddb --> remote --> enable remote cddb queries
[06:50] <K-Ryan> Would anybody happen to have any computer worth sending my way? =)
[06:51] <hitmanWilly> chalabera: and make sure you have an entry in the server list
[06:51] <chalabera> kaffeine found the CDDB just fine
[06:51] <K-Ryan> *computers
[06:52] <hitmanWilly> chalabera: k3b probably isn't set up right, try those menu settings i listed
[06:52] <Dr_willis> k3b here - is set by default to use the cddb stuff..
[06:52] <Dr_willis> odd.
[06:52] <Dr_willis> well night all.
[06:52] <klobster> what is the diff between sum and cksum?
[06:52] <chalabera> It is already enabled in k3b
[06:52] <hitmanWilly> hmmm, weird
[06:54] <chalabera> what's a kewl superkaramba for sys info?
[06:54] <hitmanWilly> oh well, later all
[06:56] <Delphinus> 1 handed (left only) typing... dvorak or half qwerty?
[06:57] <purpleposeidon> heyo, got a couple of problems here...
[06:58] <purpleposeidon> When I boot up, I get an error, "Truncating file to 0 bytes", every time, and something about bogus file sectors
[07:01] <K-Ryan> purpleposeidon: The chat is a little empty at the moment so it might take longer to get a response.
[07:01] <K-Ryan> I'd help but I don't know what to do about something like that, sorry
[07:01] <purpleposeidon> eh, well I have a vague suspicion of fsck....
[07:03] <jbraddoc> Okay I have a few questions, I think the easiest way is to just ask... 1: When I ran the term app on kubuntu, it froze x and restarted it. and 2: When I have x set at a resolution above 800x600 I get four or five columns going through my screen (lines that seem to seperate). The sys is a pIII 700 (i think) compaq deskpro en with 256 mb, 10 gb, intel chipset.
[07:03] <jbraddoc> hrmm
[07:03] <jbraddoc> whopps.. my mistake -- i forgot something
[07:03] <jbraddoc> I am not using K on this machine.. I am using Xubuntu...
[07:03] <jbraddoc> forget my q's unless anyone can help?
[07:04] <jbraddoc> Sorry, I have another machine running K..
[07:04] <jbraddoc> I was thinking of that one, working on the other one, and confused my self.
[07:05] <chalabera> why is taking so slow ripping it? m$$ player does it faster
[07:15] <sajacjr> list
[07:15] <sajacjr> exit
 why is taking so slow ripping it? m$$ player does it faster < so use windows and quit whining about it?
[07:31] <jzilla> whats the thing called that tries to restore your previous session by launching whatever you had open before you reboot
[07:38] <Ayabara> I'm looking for a lightweight desktop search tool that I forgot the name of. KDE app that you use from Konqueror. Anyone got a name for it? :-)
[07:39] <K-Ryan> Katapult
[07:39] <K-Ryan> Oh, use from Konqueror
[07:39] <K-Ryan> No clue
[07:40] <MarcC> beagle KIOSlave?
[07:40] <MarcC> http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=28437
[07:41] <MarcC> ah, Ayabara, or this: http://kioclucene.objectis.net/
[07:42] <SRN9> Anyone know how to fix an Apt-get issue?
[07:42] <MarcC> SRN9: try me
[07:42] <Ayabara> MarcC, K-Ryan, thanks for input. I stumbled over it at google. Strigi was the one I was looking for :-)
[07:42] <K-Ryan> Ah, glad you found what you were looking for
[07:43] <MarcC> dang, ok :D
[07:43] <SRN9> well I have an issue here I try to "Apt-get update" and i get an error that points to "cannot connect to local machine" I know this is my machine it is talking about but how would I go about correcting this issue?
[07:44] <SRN9> streegee?
[07:44] <MarcC> SRN9: sounds like a correction needs to be made in sources.list
[07:44] <MarcC> to point to network resources instead of CD maybe
[07:44] <MarcC> btw hard G or soft G
[07:45] <K-Ryan> str-eye-gee
[07:45] <K-Ryan> hard
[07:45] <K-Ryan> Is how I'd say it
[07:45] <MarcC> gee as in "jeeeez" or gee as in "guh-eeee"
[07:45] <K-Ryan> jee
[07:46] <MarcC> that's like one of those things you use to clean your car's windshield
[07:46] <MarcC> ;)
[07:47] <K-Ryan> squeegee
[07:47] <K-Ryan> =P
[07:48] <MarcC> ah right :D
[07:48] <Ayabara> hehe. have you guys read "The meaning of Liff"?
[07:49] <Ayabara> hehe, have you guys scanned "The meaning of Liff"?
[07:50] <MarcC> nope
[07:52] <Ayabara> you should :-)
[07:52] <MarcC> well maybe I will
[07:53] <MarcC> hey, that's a pretty cool idea, I'm liking it
[08:03] <Black_Monkey> Ayabara: was that the one by Douglas Adams?
[08:06] <Ivis> hi, i know this is not right chanel to ask but i need a help please.... i need a people who listen dj tiesto
[08:07] <MarcC> try "man dj-tiesto"
[08:08] <K-Ryan> lvis: PvD > Tiesto
[08:08] <K-Ryan> AvB > Tiesto
[08:08] <Ivis> :D
[08:09] <K-Ryan> Corsten > Tiesto
[08:09] <MarcC> Random artist from Archive.org > Tiesto
[08:09] <K-Ryan> lol
[08:09] <K-Ryan> What about Tiesto?
[08:09] <MarcC> Tiesto > Tiesto
[08:10] <MarcC> http://www.archive.org/details/BEVLARS31
[08:10] <Ivis> i need one song but i don't know hes name i remember sing "tell me how u fill" and thats all but i want that song tooo much
[08:10] <SRN9> well Im back... it was the anon package... seems to be working.
[08:10] <K-Ryan> I was talking to lvis =P
[08:10] <MarcC> I must improve my strength
[08:10] <MarcC> SRN9: cool :)
[08:10] <K-Ryan> lvis: No idea, sorry
[08:10] <Ivis> K-Ryan,  ohh ok thanks anyway
[08:10] <MarcC> Ivis: thanks though, that's the funniest thing I've read all day
[08:10] <MarcC> but no idea
[08:11] <Ivis> MarcC,  my english is wery bad im now study english
[08:11] <MarcC> Ivis: I understand, you should listen to my Japanese sometime
[08:11] <K-Ryan> "<coz_> morning all" "<K-Ryan> GOOOOD MORNING VIETNAM!"
[08:11] <K-Ryan> =)
[08:11] <Ivis> Japanese songs? o_O
[08:12] <MarcC> sure Ivis, I do enka covers on a clarinet all the time
[08:12] <Ivis> ohh ok but i don't understand :D
[08:13] <K-Ryan> It's just one of those things lvis, don't worry about it
[08:13] <MarcC> hooooreta, ooomae ni horetaaaaa
[08:13] <MarcC> etc.
[08:13] <Ivis> :)
[08:14] <Ivis> ohh i got one question if my friend is totaly newbie in linux it's good if i set up him edubuntu?
[08:14] <Daisuke_Ido> !offtopic
[08:14] <ubotu> #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[08:14] <MarcC> !moderators
[08:14] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about moderators - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:14] <K-Ryan> lvis: edubuntu is geared for students, not new people to linux
[08:15] <MarcC> moderators, do you speak it?
[08:15] <K-Ryan> Daisuke_Ido: It's quiet in here, give us a break =P
[08:15] <Ivis> K-Ryan,  ohh i think is for new
[08:15] <K-Ryan> Nope, for a new person just give 'em Kubuntu or Ubuntu, whichever he likes more
[08:15] <Ivis> ok :) thx for info
[08:16] <Ivis> i hear somthing abaout 7.10 version
[08:16] <MarcC> Ivis: if a Windows user, Puppy Linux is also good, but Ubuntu works great
[08:16] <Ivis> do u know somthing?
[08:16] <chalabera> hi
[08:16] <Ivis> MarcC,  Puppy with desktop he use?
[08:17] <chalabera> what's that note making program for KDE?
[08:17] <K-Ryan> kate?
[08:17] <chalabera> is like something else than knote
[08:17] <K-Ryan> nano?
[08:17] <MarcC> Ivis: default is Rox
[08:17] <MarcC> with JVM
[08:17] <MarcC> or JWM
[08:17] <Ivis> MarcC,  thanks i find in google about puppy
[08:17] <MarcC> chalabera: basket notepads?
[08:17] <alucardromero> Heh.
[08:17] <Ivis> its cool for new
[08:17] <Ivis> people i think
[08:17] <alucardromero> Goodness...lots of people.
[08:18] <MarcC> Ivis: if you try Puppy, don't install it to the HD - it runs off the CD and doesn't use the CD motor much
[08:18] <curiosityKILLEDm> hi Alu
[08:18] <alucardromero> Hiyee. :)
[08:18] <curiosityKILLEDm> hello everyone
[08:18] <K-Ryan> Howdy
[08:18] <curiosityKILLEDm> :P
[08:19] <MarcC> !longintroductions
[08:19] <MarcC> dang
[08:19] <Ivis> MarcC,  i need to set up to my friend hee is windows user but when he see my linux  he want to try he doesn't knows whats its terminal and i search somthing easy for him to first steps
[08:20] <MarcC> Ivis: Puppy is a good one, it has many "wizards" to easily setup the network, sound, etc.
[08:20] <MarcC> Ivis: but I don't know about non-English if you need that
[08:21] <alucardromero> That's what it seems like.
[08:21] <Ivis> MarcC,  thanks em.... how to install there a soft? via terminal package?are he has a add/remove
[08:22] <Ivis> ore mybe he has somthing like sudo apitude
[08:22] <makuseru> !libxml
[08:22] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about libxml - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:22] <makuseru> !libxml2
[08:22] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about libxml2 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:22] <MarcC> Ivis: there is a "dot pup package manager" and there are lots of "dot pup" packages available at the puppy forum
[08:24] <Ivis> MarcC,  it's great!!! thanks
[08:24] <MarcC> Ivis: no problemo
[08:24] <Ivis> it's perfect to my friend i hope all my friends go smarter and use Linux :)
[08:26] <Ivis> my dream is Gentoo but its too hard to me now
[08:28] <MarcC> Ivis: my dream in 1996 was to install Linux with X-windows working ;)
[08:28] <Ivis> ohh u are old user
[08:28] <MarcC> in 2004 I discovered that I just needed to configure my monitor xD
[08:28] <Ivis> cool
[08:28] <Ivis> i use linux 5 month
[08:29] <Ivis> and i knows somthing about linux was created by Linus torvalds 1984 year think
[08:29] <MarcC> Ivis: excellent, glad to hear you enjoy it
[08:29] <Ivis> :)
[08:29] <MarcC> night
[08:29] <Ivis> MarcC,  u use kubuntu?
[08:29] <MarcC> yes :)
[08:30] <MarcC> going to bed now, good night/guten nacht/etc.
[08:30] <Ivis> ohh
[08:30] <Ivis> bye
[08:33] <K-Ryan> !jwm
[08:33] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about jwm - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:33] <K-Ryan> !jvm
[08:33] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about jvm - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:33] <makuseru> hi, i was trying to 'make' somthing and it said "Package 'libxml-2.0', required by 'compiz-cube', not found" so i did a "sudo apt-get install libxml-2.0" and it said "Package 'libxml-2.0', required by 'compiz-cube', not found", how can i get this package?
[08:34] <K-Ryan> it wouldn't say "required by 'compiz-cube', not found"
[08:35] <makuseru> K-Ryan: it does
[08:35] <K-Ryan> Guess I never noticed that or something
[08:35] <Ivis> what was year when linux was created ?
[08:35] <Ivis> 1984
[08:35] <Ivis> ?
[08:35] <K-Ryan> I get a plain old
[08:35] <K-Ryan> E: Couldn't find package libxml-2.0
[08:36] <makuseru> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/28762/ look at like 5
[08:36] <makuseru> line*
[08:36] <K-Ryan> Hah
[08:36] <K-Ryan> Wow
[08:37] <K-Ryan> Oh whoa whoa whoa
[08:37] <K-Ryan> I thought you meant it said that after typing in sudo apt-get
[08:37] <K-Ryan> !info libxml-2.0
[08:37] <ubotu> Package libxml-2.0 does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[08:37] <makuseru> no
[08:37] <K-Ryan> My bad ;)
[08:37] <makuseru> no prob
[08:38] <makuseru> do you know what i can do to fix it
[08:38] <makuseru> haha
[08:38] <K-Ryan> It's not something wrong
[08:38] <K-Ryan> I can't get it either
[08:38] <K-Ryan> I just dunno where you can get it
[08:44] <twosouls82> makuseru: it is called libxml2
[08:44] <twosouls82> !info libxml2
[08:44] <ubotu> libxml2: GNOME XML library. In component main, is optional. Version 2.6.27.dfsg-1ubuntu3 (feisty), package size 742 kB, installed size 1436 kB
[08:44] <makuseru> its not that
[08:44] <makuseru> i have that
[08:45] <twosouls82> I meant K-Ryan, my bad
[08:45] <K-Ryan> I did it for him twosouls82 =P
[08:45] <K-Ryan> How do I check uptime?
[08:46] <twosouls82> K-Ryan: using "uptime" at the terminal
[08:46] <K-Ryan> Wow
[08:46] <K-Ryan> <3 Linux
[08:46] <twosouls82> :)
[08:47] <K-Ryan> I need a Tux shirt or something
[08:47] <twosouls82> and a KDE cap, right?
[08:47] <K-Ryan> Ehh...
[08:47] <K-Ryan> I'm not crazy about KDE
[08:47] <twosouls82> omg
[08:47] <K-Ryan> It's alright
[08:48] <K-Ryan> I just happen to like Fluxbox more =)
[08:48] <K-Ryan> For now anyway
[08:48] <twosouls82> I might someday
[08:49] <K-Ryan> sudo apt-get install fluxbox
[08:49] <twosouls82> hehehe
[08:49] <K-Ryan> restart x and you're good to go
[08:49] <K-Ryan> that simple
[08:49] <K-Ryan> try it ;)
[08:49] <K-Ryan> I love it
[08:49] <Ivis> K-Ryan, u use kubuntu?
[08:49] <K-Ryan> Just remember that right click on the desktop opens your app menu
[08:49] <K-Ryan> Yes lvis
[08:50] <K-Ryan> Well not even app menu, but your whole menu thing
[08:50] <Ivis> ohh i think u use somthing like gentoo if u know a lot linux :)
[08:50] <K-Ryan> I know enough to get me through most things
[08:51] <K-Ryan> But I'm still rather new
[08:51] <Ivis> :)
[08:51] <K-Ryan> Been around for 8-9 months
[08:51] <Ivis> in linux world?
[08:51] <K-Ryan> Yeah
[08:51] <K-Ryan> So Gentoo is still beyond my reach
[08:51] <K-Ryan> I'm learning at my leisure
[08:51] <Ivis> me 5 month it's bad to all info is in english i bad know im study eng
[08:52] <K-Ryan> They have stuff in other languages
[08:52] <makuseru> K-Ryan: why do you like gentoo so much?
[08:52] <K-Ryan> I don't like/dislike it
[08:52] <K-Ryan> Never tried it, barely know what it's like
[08:52] <Ivis> K-Ryan,  yea i know in my langue have info but that info is worse
[08:52] <K-Ryan> lvis: what's your primary language?
[08:52] <Ivis> Latvian
[08:52] <makuseru> K-Ryan: Gentoo < Ubuntu
[08:52] <K-Ryan> =P
[08:53] <K-Ryan> Latvian, you're the first I've met to speak it.
[08:53] <K-Ryan> Your English is decent though, I commend you on that
[08:53] <makuseru> K-Ryan: do you have any eyecandy insalled?
[08:53] <Ivis> K-Ryan,  :)
[08:53] <K-Ryan> Well in KDE I've got Beryl
[08:53] <makuseru> why beryl?
[08:53] <makuseru> thats old
[08:54] <Ivis> K-Ryan,  i don't understand a this  English is decent though, I commend you on that
[08:54] <Ivis> =/
[08:54] <K-Ryan> You speak English very well, congratulations =P
[08:54] <K-Ryan> makuseru: What would you suggest?
[08:54] <Ivis> Thanks :)
[08:55] <makuseru> compiz-fusion
[08:55] <K-Ryan> !compiz
[08:55] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[08:56] <K-Ryan> XGL, isn't that for Ati cards?
[08:56] <makuseru> no
[08:56] <makuseru> not compi
[08:56] <makuseru> x
[08:56] <makuseru> compiz*
[08:56] <makuseru> compiz is old too
[08:56] <Ivis> K-Ryan,  one time i install gentoo i think it's easy but when i see the instalation i be shocked i install the system but in 5 min i set up ubuntu :D
[08:56] <makuseru> compiz-fusion is the new project by both beryl and compiz's old teams
[08:56] <K-Ryan> Yeah
[08:57] <makuseru> and no fglrx is for ATI
[08:57] <Ivis> K-Ryan,  do u try gentoo?
[08:57] <K-Ryan> Nope
[08:57] <K-Ryan> Started with Kubuntu and stuck with it
[08:58] <Ivis> :)
[08:58] <Ivis> my first linux be slackware
[08:58] <Ivis> imho
[08:58] <Ivis> all go to source
[08:58] <Ivis> worse distr
[09:01] <Ivis> i start my own http://ivo-opensource.blogspot.com/ project to help people who has bad english to latvians
[09:01] <Ivis> :)
[09:02] <K-Ryan> Cool
[09:02] <K-Ryan> I just took a look
[09:02] <K-Ryan> I don't speak Latvian, but I could tell what some stuff was
[09:02] <K-Ryan> Most of it actually...
[09:03] <Ivis> :)
[09:03] <Ivis> K-Ryan,  from where are u?
[09:03] <K-Ryan> New York, USA
[09:04] <Ivis> ohh cool i love that city my dream is fly to New York it's most bee cool live in new york :)
[09:04] <K-Ryan> Well I don't live in New York City
[09:04] <K-Ryan> But I go in every once in a while
[09:04] <K-Ryan> It's nice
[09:05] <Ivis> :) cool latvia is so small country
[09:06] <Ivis> http://www.europarl.europa.eu/eplive/expert/photo/20061123PHT00260/pict_20061123PHT00260.jpg
[09:06] <Ivis> latvias "LAT"
[09:06] <Ivis> Latvia is
[09:06] <Ivis> :)
[09:06] <Ivis> small
[09:10] <K-Ryan> Ah there it is
[09:10] <K-Ryan> I knew it was in that general area
[09:11] <K-Ryan> Well it's late here, 3am
[09:11] <K-Ryan> I'm out, night everyone
[09:13] <Ivis> good night
[09:13] <Ivis> :)
[09:18] <kain> anyone here know how to make a wireless router the hub of another?
[09:19] <dvm> how to install
[09:19] <dvm> the "Mozilla XPCOM development package"
[09:19] <dvm> regards
[09:19] <dvm> Zoobave
[09:19] <dvm> http://zoobave.blogspot.com/
[09:22] <dvm> how to install the "Mozilla XPCOM development package" using apt-get
[09:25] <GaryvdM> I want to install a how lot of packages that were downloaded and installed by adept on one machine on another machine. Can this be done?
[09:25] <GaryvdM> *whole
[09:32] <waylandbill> GaryvdM: burn the downloaded packages to cd and place them in /var/cache/apt/archives/
[09:32] <GaryvdM> Sweet - that is cool
[09:32] <GaryvdM> Thanks
[09:34] <Ivis> GaryvdM,  u add rapsoritors via "kate"?
[09:34] <GaryvdM> yes
[09:40] <Ryaren> hi!
[09:41] <edward0> is there any site any one would sudgest for grasping/utilizing the commandline
[09:44] <Ryaren> !format
[09:44] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Gnome under Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For Edgy, see !fstab and !DiskMounter
[09:44] <dvm>  howto start kudzu in ubuntu?
[09:45] <_4strO> yop
[09:54] <dvm>  how can i scan the hardware changes in ubuntu?
[09:54] <aznpridechinese> how do i enable dapper universe?
[09:55] <pag> aznpridechinese, do you know how to edit sources.list?
[09:55] <aznpridechinese> no
[09:56] <aznpridechinese> what does sources.list do? is it just a list of repositories?
[09:56] <pag> aznpridechinese, you can open it in kate byt pressing alt+F2 and typing kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list
[09:56] <pag> aznpridechinese, yup. just a list.
[09:56] <pag> !easysources | aznpridechinese
[09:56] <ubotu> aznpridechinese: source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[09:57] <aznpridechinese> but what is dapper?
[09:58] <aznpridechinese> oh! is it an earlier version or ubuntu?
[09:58] <pag> aznpridechinese, what do you mean? Dapper is an Ubuntu version with long term support, if that's what you meant.
[09:58] <aznpridechinese> yah i didn't know what dapper was, cuz on this page it tells me to enable dapper universe or something
[09:59] <pag> and yes, it's older than Feisty (newest stable)
[10:18] <waylandbill> !dapper
[10:18] <ubotu> dapper is the 4th release of Ubuntu.  Version 6.06 LTS, codename "Dapper Drake".
[10:31] <Lynoure> I just installed network-manager-vpnc and restarted knetworkmanager. Now it shows VPN Connections -> Configure VPN... but clicking on it does nothing
[10:32] <Lynoure> How can I get it to work? I'm also ok with cli vpn as long as I don't need to give up knetworkmanager, but cli vpnc would connect and then die/close within 4 minutes, so I thought to try this.
[10:46] <Lynoure> ok, let's phrase it diffently... Does anyone get vpnc to connect and stay connected for over a minute?
[10:49] <dwangoac> I need to remove \n but not \n\r (i.e. newlines at the end of a line of text, but not paragraph breaks).
[11:02] <spark_> hi
[11:07] <kernco> How can I have multiple programs play sounds at the same time?
[11:08] <spark_> if you use alsa as your sound server it should be implemted native kernco
[11:09] <kernco> I'm using whatever is default in Kubuntu (I installed clean from Kubuntu CD, didn't install Ubuntu then kubunt-desktop)
[11:10] <kernco> It might only be certain programs that monopolize the sound system
[11:10] <kernco> The Second Life client, for example
[11:11] <kernco> It worked in Ubuntu with esound, maybe I should install that.  But then there's sound latency.
[11:23] <okay> hi
[11:24] <spark_> hoi
[11:30] <boguh> hi, where can i find cd/dvd covers for kubuntu. would like to print one on my copy
[11:30] <schoappied> test123
[11:32] <Lynoure> How can I keep vpnc from disconnecting every 30s?
[11:33] <arek> test
[11:35] <arek> alibaba
[11:35] <arek> sorry
[11:36] <arek> bye
[11:37] <Arthea> Hello
[11:37] <Arthea> i'm getting this error when trying to open an ntfs partition that should be mounted
[11:37] <Arthea> hal-storage-fixed-mount-all options refused uid 1000
[11:41] <Arthea> no one can help me ?
[11:42] <Arthea> i'm getting this error when trying to open an ntfs partition that should be mounted hal-storage-fixed-mount-all options refused uid 1000
[11:43] <xerosis> Arthea: is it in your /etc/fstab?
[11:44] <Arthea> not sure,haven't checked
[11:44] <Arthea> but permissions should be set ...and still on some i get permission denied,and on other that error
[11:45] <goldfingermafia> hello
[11:46] <Arthea> it should be there ?
[11:46] <Arthea> and if not what should i do ? (<--- noob just trying it )
[11:47] <pag> !fstab | Arthea
[11:47] <ubotu> Arthea: The /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions
[11:47] <pag> bot doesn't seem to work :-/
[11:47] <pag> oh... :)
[11:47] <Arthea> i don't have a supported modem so all i do is switching between windows and ubuntu
[11:47] <goldfingermafia> can anyone help me i am trying to install kismet on a macbook and having a major porblem when i run the ./configure command
[11:48] <pag> goldfingermafia, what kind of problem?
[11:48] <goldfingermafia> it says canon find libncurses or libcurses
[11:48] <Arthea> so i can't even download the updates/progs with windows then move them to ubuntu since i can't access them
[11:48] <pag> goldfingermafia, do you have those installed?
[11:49] <goldfingermafia> i have no clue what im doing, im a new linux user, how do i install them?
[11:50] <pag> goldfingermafia, well.. first you should probably install build-essential  (open konsole, and type: sudo apt-get install build-essential   )
[11:50] <pag> goldfingermafia, or you can use Adept Manager to do the installations
[11:51] <goldfingermafia> i alrady did that
[11:51] <goldfingermafia> when i run that though it says 4 not upgraded? how do i upgrade them
[11:52] <pag> goldfingermafia, try sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[11:53] <pag> goldfingermafia, and to solve those libncurses -issues you should probably install libncurses5 and libncurses5-dev
[11:54] <goldfingermafia> pag ty for you help. im going to try thoses out, im running th first one right now and if you still on i will let you know what happend, ty very much
[11:54] <pag> goldfingermafia, you're welcome :)
[11:57] <StFS> hello... is anyone experiencing major unstability with firefox?
[12:03] <goldfingermafia_> peg are you still on?
[12:03] <goldfingermafia_> was it libcurses5-dev?
[12:05] <pag> goldfingermafia_, libncurses5-dev
[12:05] <goldfingermafia_> thank you sorry for buggin you
[12:06] <pag> goldfingermafia_, no problems :)
[12:07] <goldfingermafia_> it worked!
[12:07] <pag> goldfingermafia_, I'm glad to hear that :)
[12:09] <goldfingermafia_> when i tyrped make install it got an error saying it was not in root?
[12:09] <skullAttack> you need to run the command as root
[12:09] <skullAttack> prefix the command with sudo
[12:09] <fssssssssssh> can anyone advise me a good multimessenger? kopete doesnt work for me
[12:09] <goldfingermafia_> how do i do that, im the biggest noob in the world
[12:09] <skullAttack> ok. are you in a terminal?
[12:10] <skullAttack> ok sorry bad question. firstly, what are you trying to do?
[12:10] <pag> fssssssssssh, well.. Gaim / Pidgin is GTK-client, but I've heard it works pretty well
[12:10] <goldfingermafia_> skull in trying to install kismet on ubuntu
[12:10] <skullAttack> fsssssssssssh, also - aMSN is another good one
[12:11] <skullAttack> it has webcam support too ;)
[12:11] <fssssssssssh> thx pag
[12:11] <goldfingermafia_> i put sudo infron and it failed
[12:11] <fssssssssssh> thx skullAttack =)
[12:11] <skullAttack> np
[12:11] <skullAttack> so, are you using the Synaptic Package manager?
[12:11] <skullAttack> or are you doing it from a "DOS looking" type command line
[12:12] <goldfingermafia_> it says cannot remove '/usr/local/bin/kismet': premission denied
[12:12] <goldfingermafia_> im doing it fomr the command
[12:12] <skullAttack> ok
[12:12] <pag> goldfingermafia_, oh... I didn't remember that Kismet has packages in repositories - why not use them?
[12:12] <pag> !info kismet
[12:12] <skullAttack> you are trying to install kimset?
[12:12] <ubotu> kismet: Wireless 802.11b monitoring tool. In component universe, is optional. Version 2006.04.R1-1.1 (feisty), package size 964 kB, installed size 2448 kB
[12:12] <goldfingermafia_> yes
[12:13] <skullAttack> ok
[12:13] <ubuntu_> Nabend ^ :)
[12:13] <skullAttack> in the console. type - sudo apt-get install kimset
[12:13] <skullAttack> if its in the software repository it should install
[12:14] <motu> Ich hab ein Problem beim installieren ... ich hab jetzt von CD gestartet, aber mir wird meine Festplatte nicht angezeigt... was kann ich tun?
[12:14] <skullAttack> ittl ask you for a password, which is the password you use to log into the system with your account
[12:14] <pag> !de | motu
[12:14] <ubotu> motu: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[12:14] <goldfingermafia_> i alrady did that it says i ahve the newest version
[12:14] <goldfingermafia_> i was on the make, then make install part
[12:14] <skullAttack> well then its installed ;)
[12:14] <goldfingermafia_> that is when it failed
[12:15] <goldfingermafia_> if it is installed then were do i find it?? lol
[12:15] <skullAttack> in console, type kimset
[12:15] <skullAttack> and press enter
[12:16] <goldfingermafia_> ok when i do that is says failed beacuse i dont have a vailed user for suiduser
[12:16] <goldfingermafia_> or osmething like that
[12:16] <pag> goldfingermafia_, try with sudo   ( sudo kismet )
[12:17] <goldfingermafia_> same error
[12:17] <goldfingermafia_> it says FATAL could not find user'your_user_here' for droppin priviledges
[12:19] <ndb> wenas
[12:19] <ndb> alguien me puede ayudar?
[12:19] <pag> !es | ndb
[12:19] <ubotu> ndb: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[12:20] <goldfingermafia> sorry guys this thing keeps going dead on me
[12:20] <skullAttack> I cant help you much past this stage sorry goldfingermafia. Im not familiar with the kimset program
[12:21] <goldfingermafia> do you knwo what a vaild user set for suiduser means?
[12:21] <skullAttack> hm. im not sure, but at a guess id say that your account isnt properly set up to run commands as Super User
[12:22] <goldfingermafia> ok will tahnks a bunch skull
[12:22] <skullAttack> np
[12:23] <drif> people got any tips to get kubuntu 7.04 server to boot up on my acer aspire 5110? hangs at hardware detection stage
[12:23] <skullAttack> what spec is the system?
[12:24] <drif> skull: asking me?
[12:24] <skullAttack> yes
[12:25] <drif> AMF Turion 64 x2 TL-50, ATI Mobility Radeon X1600, SATA HDD - how specific you need?
[12:25] <drif> AMD
[12:25] <drif> :D
[12:25] <skullAttack> k
[12:25] <skullAttack> i have a friend who had problems with a Turion
[12:26] <skullAttack> try downloading the Alternate version
[12:26] <drif> only system I've got to boot up has been knoppix, but only in failsafe-mode
[12:26] <skullAttack> that usually gets around lots of problems
[12:26] <skullAttack> right. well, if i were you, id google it. turion and kubuntu
[12:27] <drif> believe me I've googled - I tend to find things out myself first before hassling anyone else
[12:27] <skullAttack> good man!
[12:28] <skullAttack> and you've tried the alt version of the kubuntu image?
[12:29] <drif> skull: nope, that I haven't tried yet - wasn't actually sure (aware) there would be much difference
[12:29] <skullAttack> it has helped a few of my colleagues who had problems with hardware compatibility
[12:29] <skullAttack> so i would reccomend trying it, no promises though ;)
[12:30] <drif> skull: yup, already booting up that laptop.. although windows so I can fetch that alt one
[12:30] <skullAttack> hehe ok
[12:31] <drif> skull: and I better google again as well ;) it was way past 4am when I last did it..
[12:32] <skullAttack> heh
[12:32] <skullAttack> yeah try being as specific as possible if it yields nothing useful
[12:34] <drif> skull: only bumped into things such as idle=poll and tried those 'no' keywords under knoppix..but no cigar - some people had used chroot and updated few packages via yum (under FC) to get things working..so alt could very well be the solution
[12:34] <skullAttack> hm, i think ill try getting an install of kubuntu working on my powerbook this afternoon
[12:36] <skullAttack> heh, thats a bit over my head. but yeah, alt might be the ticket
[12:37] <NastX> hi
[12:37] <ax1s> hey
[12:37] <ax1s> how do i add new  window themes :/
[12:38] <ax1s> i'm in kcontrol
[12:38] <ax1s> but i can add a style
[12:38] <ax1s> can't
[12:38] <NastX> i have a problem with the x server
[12:38] <ax1s> what's wrong with it
[12:38] <ax1s> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[12:38] <NastX> after the installation of the nvidia driver my card tries to control my monitor with 85 hz
[12:38] <skullAttack> ax1s go to www.kde-look.org
[12:38] <ax1s> oh
[12:39] <NastX> but it allows only 60 hz
[12:39] <skullAttack> ok
[12:39] <ax1s> skull: ya
[12:39] <ax1s> oh
[12:39] <ax1s> i can use theme-manager themese only eh
[12:39] <ax1s> not regular kde styles
[12:39] <skullAttack> NastX - you need to run dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[12:39] <skullAttack> sorry, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[12:40] <ax1s> [06:38]  <ax1s> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[12:40] <NastX> i know but this dowsnt mmake a difference=(
[12:40] <ax1s> uhm
[12:40] <ax1s> nasty
[12:40] <NastX> doesnt
[12:40] <NastX> ?
[12:40] <ax1s> have you gone into sudo nvidia-settings
[12:40] <skullAttack> you can edit your xorg.conf file manually if you wish
[12:40] <NastX> nope
[12:40] <ax1s> nastx: run nvidia-settings to change resolution/etc
[12:40] <ax1s> after install drivers
[12:40] <skullAttack> sudo nvidia-settings
[12:40] <NastX> i know but thjere is the maximum frequncy at 60
[12:40] <goldfingermafia> thanks again for everyones help see you all later
[12:40] <skullAttack> (so that you can save your changes to xorg.conf ;))
[12:41] <skullAttack> np dude, bye bye
[12:41] <ax1s> nastX; run sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg first
[12:41] <oohal> NastX, i take it your monitor does not support a refresh rate of 85Hz?
[12:41] <ax1s> before running sudo nvidia-settings
[12:41] <skullAttack> oohal: that is correct
[12:42] <oohal> well, the nvidia drivers shouldn't be affecting the refresh rate at all, mind posting your xorg.conf somewhere?
[12:42] <ax1s> install driver, if it works but the settings are wack, run sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and set it up manually, you man have to edit your /etc/X11/xorg.conf after and replace nv with nvidia
[12:43] <skullAttack> id say on the whole youd really just want to run : sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[12:43] <skullAttack> as that will avoid confusion
[12:44] <oohal> you do know that the automatic detection sucks?
[12:44] <skullAttack> it gives you a interface to select settings - the monitor settings are at teh end of the program i think. then it saves to your xorg.conf file
[12:44] <skullAttack> you dont have to auto. you can do manual
[12:44] <oohal> easier to edit xorg.conf directly
[12:44] <skullAttack> in the manual monitor setup you specify its size and then the refresh rates
[12:44] <skullAttack> yeah, if you are familiar with it
[12:45] <skullAttack> assuming the user is green, the above method is easier to work with
[12:45] <oohal> it's not particularly difficult to tell what does what
[12:45] <ax1s> wow
[12:45] <ax1s> i'm going to lose it
[12:45] <oohal> meh, anyone using xinerama?
[12:45] <skullAttack> i was. but i found it lame with my screen setup
[12:46] <skullAttack> i want a setup like the one in Windoze - desktop extension, not spanning
[12:46] <skullAttack> couldnt find a way of doing it in nvidia-settings tho
[12:46] <ax1s> why can't i add just a style
[12:46] <skullAttack> sorry ax1s
[12:46] <oohal> well, i like it, but it makes xrandr crash
[12:46] <skullAttack> yeah i foudn that
[12:47] <oohal> and the monitor section of the system settings crash
[12:47] <oohal> oh well
[12:47] <ax1s> i'm gonna drop ubuntu altogether because of theme management
[12:47] <skullAttack> still very bleeding edge
[12:47] <ax1s> and how they've fucked kcontrol up so badly
[12:47] <ax1s> this is terrible
[12:47] <skullAttack> you in ubuntu or kubuntu?
[12:47] <oohal> kubuntu
[12:47] <ax1s> kubuntu
[12:47] <oohal> GNOME makes babies cry...
[12:48] <ax1s> wow thankyou theme for changing my colours but not the style
[12:48] <ax1s> like why did they go out of their way to remove the add style button
[12:48] <ax1s> ??????
[12:48] <ax1s> makes absolutely no sense
[12:48] <skullAttack> go to system settings > appearence
[12:49] <skullAttack> then click style (on the vertical bar on the left)
[12:49] <ax1s> yah
[12:49] <ax1s> i see some defaults
[12:49] <ax1s> i don't see an add style button tho
[12:49] <ax1s> i see configure
 yeah, if you are familiar with it <- nope sry^^
[12:50] <skahead> hello is there any command to refresh the usb mediums??
[12:51] <skullAttack> yeah i think its a case of downloading a style and putting it into a folder
[12:51] <skullAttack> 1 mo plz ax1s
[12:52] <skullAttack> NastX - use: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[12:52] <skullAttack> when it comes to monitor settings, dont choose the automatic, do it manually
[12:53] <ax1s> omg
[12:53] <ax1s> i can't add window decorations
[12:53] <NastX> mhhh ok
[12:53] <ax1s> or styles
[12:53] <ax1s> WTF
[12:53] <skullAttack> ax1s if you want a really pimping desktop - check out beryl
[12:53] <ax1s> i want basic KDE functionality
[12:53] <ax1s> not animated windows
[12:53] <skullAttack> kk
[12:54] <ax1s> lol
[12:54] <ax1s> this is rediclour
[12:54] <ax1s> rediculous
[12:55] <skullAttack> ax1s if you go to kde-look.org and go to the forums
[12:55] <skullAttack> there is bound to be a how to there
[12:56] <ax1s> yeah
[12:56] <ax1s> i'm there now
[12:56] <ax1s> hahaha
[12:56] <ax1s> i'm just a greedy mother
[12:56] <ax1s> they have to be ./installable
[12:57] <ax1s> Take note that styles come in source code or binary package forms. They are not KDE theme files.
[12:57] <skullAttack> in ./installable ?
[12:57] <aznpridechinese> i need help!
[12:57] <ax1s> aznpridechinese STATE YOUR PROBLEM
[12:58] <skullAttack> ax1s: http://www.kde-look.org/help/index.php?type=9
[12:58] <aznpridechinese> i'm trying to install beryl glx ontop of kde using the instructions on this site http://wiki.beryl-project.org/wiki/Install_Beryl_on_Ubuntu_Feisty_with_XGL, i'm getting stuck at downgrading beryl-core from 0.2.1 to 0.2.0, i update the sources.list but i gives me the error when i use synpatics once i start the downgrading process synaptics gives me this error
[12:58] <aznpridechinese> W: Failed to fetch http://ubuntu.beryl-project.org/pool/feisty/main/0.2.0/beryl-core_0.2.0~0beryl1_i386.deb
[12:58] <aznpridechinese>   404 Not Found
[12:59] <pag> !beryl | aznpridechinese
[12:59] <ubotu> aznpridechinese: beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. Help in #ubuntu-effects
[12:59] <aznpridechinese> i am already in that room but they don't talk!
[12:59] <aznpridechinese> been in there for 2 hours and nobody has said a single word
[12:59] <ax1s> aznprincess: http://wiki.beryl-project.org/index.php/Install/Ubuntu
[01:00] <ax1s> follow those guides
[01:00] <aznpridechinese> does it matter that i'm using kubuntu?
[01:00] <skullAttack> aznpridechinese
[01:00] <skullAttack> no
[01:01] <ax1s> not at all
[01:01] <ax1s> s'all good
[01:01] <skullAttack> do you have a Nvidia card or an ATI card?
[01:01] <aznpridechinese> cool
[01:01] <skullAttack> aznpridechinese: nvidia or ati graphics card?
[01:03] <ax1s> eh aznpride
[01:03] <ax1s> ati or nvidia
[01:03] <skullAttack> lol
[01:03] <ax1s> good 2 go
[01:03] <ax1s> and i have new styles
[01:03] <ax1s> woot
[01:04] <ax1s> now i gotta change my colours back tho
[01:04] <ax1s> gonna save them this time
[01:04] <ax1s> ahahahah
[01:04] <ax1s> hi zhangkai
[01:05] <zhangkai> hi
[01:05] <zhangkai> axls
[01:06] <skullAttack> heh nice one ax1s
[01:07] <dev__> hi
[01:07] <skullAttack> woot, just  foudn that the TAB button auto-complete thing works on nicks on Konversation :D
[01:07] <ax1s> skullAttack: ha
[01:07] <skullAttack> ax1s: did that URL help?
[01:10] <danya> Can anyone helo !? .. I have been trying to install flash player 9
[01:11] <danya> and when I finally knew how to do it by unpacking the tar.gz file I got the following error
[01:11] <danya> ERROR: Your architecture, \'x86_64\', is not supported by the
[01:11] <danya>        Adobe Flash Player installer.
[01:11] <ax1s> hahaha
[01:11] <ax1s> brootal 64 bit
[01:12] <aznpridechinese> cool thanks whoever gave me that link it worked!
[01:12] <aznpridechinese> beryl is finally installed and working!
[01:12] <aznpridechinese> but now how do i change to different themes? or where can i download themes and install them?
[01:12] <ax1s> danya: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=341727
[01:12] <soc> hi
[01:13] <ax1s> aznpride: awesome .. sec
[01:13] <rrichie> hi everyone
[01:13] <soc> is there already a kubuntu build of kde 4 alpha 2?
[01:13] <ax1s> aznpride: http://www.beryl-themes.org
[01:13] <ax1s> soc: i'm curious myself
[01:13] <rrichie> i have the same question of soc
[01:13] <soc> kubuntu.com was quite fast in the past with such things ...
[01:14] <ax1s> i thought kde4 was coming out with 7.04
[01:14] <ax1s> :/
[01:15] <TheInfinity> kde4 is at alpha2 release
[01:15] <ax1s> found it
[01:15] <soc> really?
[01:15] <ax1s> http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde4-alpha1.php
[01:15] <soc> thats alpha 1
[01:15] <TheInfinity> and alpha releases are NOT for productive systems
[01:15] <skullAttack> aznpridechinese: when you installed beryl, it should have also installed emerald theme mangager
[01:15] <soc> i have enough non-productive systems :-)
[01:15] <ax1s> theinfinity: anything other then LTS is good for production? heh
[01:15] <skullAttack> aznpridechinese: if you right click the red "beryl" stone in your taskbar (by the clock), click emerald theme manager
[01:16] <skullAttack> aznpridechinese: you can also change beryls settings by the beryl settings manager there
[01:16] <TheInfinity> ax1s: of course - 7.04 for example is also for productive use
[01:16] <amrush> skullAttack: when i do that the frames are invisible but functional
[01:16] <TheInfinity> LTS has is aspect on server issues
[01:17] <ax1s> TheInfinity: Yah well, most " " opensource softwares haven't ported to 7.04
[01:17] <skullAttack> amrush: on the same beryl logo, right click and click reload window manager, and reload window decoratoer
[01:17] <ax1s> TheInfinity:  besides, it's aptly named kde4base-dev
[01:17] <skullAttack> if that doesnt work, press ctrl alt and backspace to reload KDE (that usually fixes it) - beryl is still not perfect
[01:17] <amrush> skullAttack:tried and never worked
[01:18] <ax1s> amrush: use control alt on the lefthand side of your keyboard
[01:18] <skullAttack> amrush: make sure you save anything you have open as they will close
[01:18] <ax1s> the first line of the kde4 page states;
[01:18] <ax1s> KDE 4 Alpha 1
[01:18] <ax1s> The first Alpha release of KDE 4 has been released and packages are available for Kubuntu Feisty. These are intended for developers only.
[01:19] <soc> ax1s: we are at alpha 2!
[01:19] <aznpridechinese> i got the emerald themer on but how do i switch to the theme i want? all i can do is just select them
[01:19] <TheInfinity> and it has almost no functions ;)
[01:19] <TheInfinity> some ideas but just for playing around
[01:19] <ax1s> yah nothing is official
[01:19] <skullAttack> aznpridechinese: you click it, and its applied. close the theme manager and ittl stay on the theme you selected!
[01:19] <ax1s> oh they actually officially bumped the release date for 23/October
[01:19] <jzilla> hello friends - i just installed the package ubuntu-desktop from a kubuntu install - upon logging into gnome, i have no title bars. what could be the problem?
[01:20] <ax1s> jzilla: good question ;]
[01:20] <skullAttack> jzilla: sudo apt-get install gdm
[01:20] <soc> ax1s: nothing official? http://dot.kde.org/1183569837/
[01:20] <amrush> skullAttack .. still not working
[01:21] <jzilla> skullAttack: gmd is already the newest version
[01:21] <ax1s> soc: Yah, that's an alpha
[01:21] <skullAttack> i trust you have restarted the system
[01:21] <ax1s> soc: not even an official beta
[01:21] <aznpridechinese> cool i didn't notice it before skull, so beryl is only for icons? how about the whole desktop themes like the way kde themer can do? how do i change it with beryl?
[01:21] <jzilla> skullAttack: no, lol
[01:21] <jzilla> brb
[01:21] <skullAttack> aznpridechinese: you change the window decorations with emerald theme manager
[01:21] <amrush> yes i did
[01:21] <soc> ax1s: yes it is an alpha ...
[01:21] <skullAttack> you can use the kde themer for the colours of scroll bars, buttons and so on
[01:22] <ax1s> october 23 sounds like an official beta release
[01:22] <aznpridechinese> ok cool
[01:22] <ax1s> i mean it is wiki, so who can trust it.. but ..   http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KDE_4
[01:23] <skullAttack> aznpridechinese: and to change desktop background, rick click your desktop - configure desktop ;)
[01:23] <danya> hi again :D
[01:23] <ax1s> mooshi mooshi
[01:24] <danya> guys I'm having a problem with a beryl .. It has been working fine for a day or 2 and yesterday  it just stopped working ..i removed it and installed it again and still it's not working .. any suggestions ?
[01:24] <spawn57> hajimemashte
[01:25] <ax1s> danya: is your 3d working?
[01:25] <jzilla> skullAttack: restart didnt restore title bars, any other ideas?
[01:25] <ax1s> danya: glxinfo|grep direct
[01:26] <skullAttack> jzilla - try removing ubuntu-desktop
[01:26] <skullAttack> then try installing gdm
[01:26] <skullAttack> i did the same for kde and it worked
[01:26] <ax1s> i have a problem with that
[01:26] <ax1s> had
[01:26] <ax1s> when i installed kubuntu-desktop
[01:26] <ax1s> i still had to select GDM as the default manager
[01:26] <danya> how can I check ?
[01:26] <ax1s> danya: glxinfo|grep direct
[01:26] <jzilla> ill give it a shot
[01:26] <ax1s> then select KDM as default session
[01:26] <ax1s> after
[01:27] <jzilla> im on a kubuntu install, and want to use gnome though
[01:27] <aznpridechinese> why is my screen laggy?
[01:27] <ax1s> dayna: glxinfo|grep direct  <-- should say something like direct rendering, yes / no
[01:27] <ax1s> jzilla: reverse the steps.. when you re install ubuntu-desktop , select KDM as default manager
[01:27] <ax1s> then at the login window, change it there
[01:28] <jzilla> alright
[01:28] <ax1s> w0rd
[01:28] <jzilla> thanks folks
[01:28] <ax1s>     * June 27, 2007: Alpha2
[01:28] <ax1s> Alpha 2 is prepared and released after some initial testing. The incoming bugs will be reviewed for their severity. This release should be beta1 initially, but they decided to call it alpha2 instead because that fits the expectations of the public a little better considering what's in it. However after this release, a new Beta version will be released every month.
[01:29] <danya>  glxinfo|grep direct
[01:29] <danya> direct rendering: Yes
[01:29] <ax1s> danya: brutal
[01:29] <ax1s> danya: i mean that's good, but means more trouble shooting lol
[01:29] <ax1s> danya: ati or nvidia
[01:29] <danya> I'm not sure :P .. It's Intel :p
[01:29] <soc> ax1s: there are already suse and osx builds, but no kubuntu builds
[01:30] <ax1s> soc : of beta1 ? or alpha2 as it's called?
[01:30] <spawn57> damn
[01:30] <icecruncher> how can you get ridd of disk fragmentation on a ext3 hdd?
[01:30] <ax1s> soc: ubuntu would just package it and make it an apt-get
[01:30] <danya> I have installed it from this site http://wiki.beryl-project.org/wiki/Support_for_INTEL_cards
[01:31] <spawn57> i wonder how fast people are going to port their apps to KDE4
[01:31] <ax1s> danya: okay sec
[01:31] <soc> yes there are builds for suse and kubuntu
[01:31] <soc> and i wonder if there are debs for ubuntu
[01:31] <soc> maybe un kubuntu.com
[01:32] <soc> they were quite fast in the past with such packages ...
[01:32] <soc> but i don't find anything
[01:32] <ax1s> soc: i think suse and osx have made their own builds of the alpha2
[01:32] <ax1s> soc: http://www.kde.org/download/
[01:33] <ax1s> soc: shows there is only binaries for 4.0
[01:33] <icecruncher> anybody?
[01:34] <ax1s> icecrunch: is the ext3 system your OS filesystem?
[01:34] <ax1s> danya: when you boot up, hit ESCAPE for grubs loader, and sected the prvious kernel
[01:34] <ax1s> danya: see if that works
[01:34] <soc> ax1s: it seems you don't understand what i say
[01:34] <soc> http://www.kde.org/info/3.91.php
[01:35] <ax1s>  oh at the bottom
[01:35] <soc> on this page there a packages for suse and osx. understood?
[01:35] <ax1s> i see now
[01:35] <soc> and i wonder if there will be ubuntu packages added. ok?
[01:35] <icecruncher> ax1s: yes, and fragmented from torrents
[01:35] <skullAttack> you can run KDE on OSX?
[01:35] <soc> ^yes?
[01:35] <skullAttack> :D
[01:36] <soc> at least the applications
[01:36] <skullAttack> ah
[01:36] <skullAttack> still cool
[01:36] <ax1s> can you install the libraries to run any linux code?
[01:36] <soc> not the desktop ...
[01:36] <ax1s> can't* ?
[01:36] <skullAttack> ya
[01:36] <skullAttack> osx has X11 support
[01:36] <ax1s> so you could compile everything yourself
[01:36] <ax1s> but would be dependencey hell
[01:36] <FireHazard17> os alreaady can run linux apps
[01:36] <soc> or you just take the osx packages fro the bottom of the page
[01:36] <ax1s> soc: svn build for kubuntu
[01:36] <ax1s> soc: http://techbase.kde.org/Getting_Started/Build/KDE4
[01:37] <skullAttack> i was running GTK apps from my ubuntu biox on my mac via a ssh -X session :)
[01:37] <soc> yes i know that