[00:05] <valorie> britney is our girlfriend
[00:05] <valorie> ok, that email sent, now for laundry then dinner
[00:05] <tsimonq2> valorie: Britney is the nice young lady who makes sure our packages that we upload are fit to be released to y'all
[00:07] <valorie> yes I know
[00:07] <valorie> but most people grouse about her complaining
[00:07] <tsimonq2> heh
[00:07] <valorie> and her excuses
[00:07] <tsimonq2> You can beat her into submission if you have the magic wand, though.
[00:51] <valorie> tsimonq2: I very much do not like that analogy
[00:51]  * tsimonq2 shrugs
[00:51] <tsimonq2> Just think about it on a simple level.
[00:51] <tsimonq2> Don't read into it.
[00:51] <tsimonq2> Can't think of a better one atm because we usually beat the tooling into submission with sudo powers :P
[00:51]  * tsimonq2 shrugs again
[14:29] <ahoneybun> valorie:  acheronuk support ticket opened about the Linode sponsorship
[14:29] <ahoneybun> when I get any mail I'll cc the KC into it
[14:29] <acheronuk> thanks :)
[15:55] <ahoneybun> np acheronuk
[15:55] <ahoneybun> no messages this morning ?
[15:55] <ahoneybun> ;P
[15:56] <acheronuk> ahoneybun: you obviously weren't as bored or as cold on the train
[15:56] <ahoneybun> nah not this morning in the cold part
[15:56] <ahoneybun> I was busy holding on the train this morning lol
[15:57] <acheronuk> rough ride???
[15:57] <ahoneybun> it's a rough ride when your not seating down
[15:57] <ahoneybun> sometimes I get a seat sometime not
[15:57] <ahoneybun> *sometimes
 When's the meeting?
 19:30 UTC
 I think will check now
 Ah no 21:00 UTC
 https://phabricator.kde.org/T7098
 2 + 3/4 hrs time by my watch
 Yes 2 hours from now 😃
[19:04] <clivejo> 10pm?
 Yes 😃
[19:04] <clivejo> whos idea was that!?!
[19:06] <valorie> better for me
[19:07] <valorie> I guess there there is no perfect time
[19:07] <clivejo> pineapples
[19:08] <valorie> canteloupes
 https://kubuntu.org/calendar/action~agenda/request_format~json/
[19:32] <valorie> oooooooo
[19:32] <valorie> shiny!
[19:34] <valorie> how do we make new tags?
 Just type them in and click add
[19:34] <valorie> I'd love to use this for KDE releases and our BB cycle dates
[19:35] <valorie> I'll have to think how best to use it
 oooooooh!
[19:35] <valorie> then I can abandon the Gcalendar I guess
[19:35] <valorie> or maybe it's still useful to  people
[19:35] <valorie> our own dates are still useful to me
[19:35] <valorie> on gcalendar
 Yeah, I think we'll need to build on this calendar for a whilr
 It is my hope that we can make kubuntu.org the central hub of the community
 It took a little bit of to and fro with the Ubuntu Sys admins to get this installed.
 I'd like to add other functions added later, plus get some updates done..
 But slowly slowly catches the monkey
[19:37] <valorie> I'm with you all the way with that
[19:37] <valorie> but I use gcalendar all the time for everything
[19:38] <valorie> and having all dates on there are useful for me
 I've not looked at it yet, but I think it offers and RSS feed, and some G+ integrations.
 I see an RSS icon
 I guess we'll have to see how the community wants to use it
 Yeah I spotted this RSS
 Which is great for me
[19:41] <valorie> I haven't used rss for a long time
[19:41] <valorie> :(
[19:41] <valorie> used to
[19:41] <valorie> had a blogroll and all
 At the moment I have just linked this Calendar onto the Community page
[19:42] <valorie> excellent
 Which I feel is the correct place.
[19:42] <valorie> me too
 hmm. no RSS, despite the icon. just calander subscription methods
 either that, or Firefox is being useless and not letting me have a link
 OK, well I didn't really try any of the front end features yet
 Nor did I put any work into configuring it,
 Probably more to it than meets the eye
 As usual - I read para one of getting started in the docs, and thought "Ah stuff it, let me just poke at it"
[19:45] <valorie> lol
[19:45]  * valorie reads the docs, usually
 https://time.ly/document/user-guide/
 tee hee
 😍
 {{HUG}}
[19:54] <valorie> i would appreciate Author use
[19:55] <valorie><EMAIL_ADDRESS> I don't know what Author use is
 valorie: Kubuntu email?
[19:57] <valorie> that's not what I use to login though
 Ooo you should have that @Valoriez just login in to kubunto web admin
[19:57] <valorie> just trying to keep it simple
[19:57] <valorie> ah, OK
 Do you login with your LP account, as part of the Web Team ?
 That's how I do it
 I think @ovidiuflorin set me up with that
[19:57] <valorie> yes
[19:58] <valorie> if that login works for the calendar, I can set myself up
[19:58] <valorie> I don't want to be an Admin
 Yes, its just a new Menu "Events" in the WP-Admin
[20:00] <valorie> cool
[20:16] <valorie> much of these docs are aimed to commercial sites
[20:16] <valorie> sort of hard to wade through
 Well I would try to suck it all up, just get a feel for the main headings, cherry the bits yur interested in
 I don't usually resort to the docs until I have actually broken something
 lol
[20:23] <valorie> I like to find all the powers I didn't think about
[20:23] <valorie> so yeah, still worth trawling through
[20:24] <valorie> I have a page down key
 as long as one person in any large group of people reads the instructions, the rest can usually get away with it :P
[20:48] <valorie> oh dear
[20:48] <valorie> that puts me on the hook!
 OK I'm off to make some tea, then I'll be in the meeting
 just joking. I think.....
[20:50] <valorie> yeah, I'll spin up bbb in a min
 (Document) https://irc-attachments.kde.org/IvI3S50n/file_3356.pdf
[21:42] <clivejo> https://ubuntu-mate.org/download/
[22:28] <acheronuk> productive I think :)
[22:28] <acheronuk> I always have mild brain freeze in any meeting like that :/
[22:43] <valorie> nice, I can import ical into the calendar
[22:43] <valorie> which means I can continue to set up the kubuntu calender in gcalendar and just import it
[22:44] <valorie> and perhaps the phab calendar from KDE as well
[22:44] <valorie> depending on how that's set up
[22:44] <valorie> acheronuk: yes, I think productive
[22:45] <valorie> although a bit hard on @sick_rimmit since he took almost everything as his action items!
[22:59] <valorie> piffle, still not a peep about the RC
[23:00] <clivejo> valorie: mparillo has access to that second FB account
[23:00] <acheronuk> might not be until tomorrow or sunday for the RC
[23:00] <clivejo> dunno who created or maintained the first one we talked about
[23:00] <valorie> I guess we should make a separate page for all the social media
[23:01] <valorie> so we can do a checklist when stuff needs to go out
[23:01] <valorie> I'll go do that
[23:01] <valorie> Rick has enough to do
[23:02] <mparillo> valorie: You and I both post to FB under kubuntu.org
[23:03] <valorie> cool
[23:03] <valorie> mparillo: what was discussed in the BBB meeting you missed was that we might have a quest to get in touch with the contact people for each social media channel
[23:04] <valorie> and invite all them to a meeting to craft a social media direction
[23:04] <valorie> some of them are completely unknown to us
[23:04] <valorie> and they could be quite helpful
[23:10] <mparillo> FB is all over the map. In addition to ours (kubuntu.org), I have no idea who has linuxkubuntu. And if you search kubuntu, linux kubuntu, and kubuntu linux, FB offers different results, but way too many.
[23:12] <valorie> right, I think we should either get them to connect with us, merge, or shut down
[23:12] <valorie> well, connect with us AND merge or shut down
[23:12] <valorie> there can be both a page and a group, but they should be connected
[23:15] <mparillo> Is JR still the owner of our FB page, or did he pass it along, maybe to Ovi?
[23:16] <valorie> ?
[23:16] <valorie> didn't know he was ever the owner
[23:16] <valorie> I'm making a new phab page just for social
[23:16] <mparillo> Oh, he was the one who gave me permission to post there.
[23:16] <valorie> do you have access to Mastodon?
[23:17] <valorie> or is just ahoneybun & I
[23:17] <mparillo> I think I do, but I got confused, and did not try too hard
[23:18] <mparillo> On FB, clivejo was asking if I could change the cover photo. I think I have permission to do so, and I was wondering if there was a pick for the 17.10 website banner? Or if anybody has a better idea.
[23:18] <clivejo> https://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/NjEyWDEwMjQ=/z/GO4AAOSwm8VUslz9/$_86.JPG
[23:18] <valorie> not so far although I've not looked at email today
[23:19] <valorie> I don't like any of the submissions we've gotten so far
[23:19] <ahoneybun> mparillo: should have access
[23:19] <valorie> I hate the letter
[23:19] <ahoneybun> valorie: mparillo  and I have access
[23:19] <valorie> ok
[23:19] <mparillo> Thanks clivejo, I will use your image
[23:20] <valorie> https://phabricator.kde.org/w/kubuntu/social-media/
[23:20] <valorie> open for editing
[23:20] <valorie> oops, hate the letter*ing*
[23:21] <clivejo> :P
[23:22] <acheronuk> that makes it sounds like I have access to the kubuntu twitter. I don't
[23:25] <valorie> since social media is for more than releasing
[23:25] <valorie> uh
[23:25] <valorie> some of my lines were lost
[23:25] <valorie> I don't have access to the twitter either
[23:25] <valorie> I just copied and pasted what was on the release page and moved it to its own page
[23:26] <valorie> so if there is inaccuracy, please fix
[23:26] <acheronuk> I will tommorow
[23:53] <valorie> off to pizza and beer!


[00:09] <paultag> AlanBell: well that's fun
[01:45] <nigelb> jcastro: :( We suck. The wiki page for installing software isn't up-to-date for Natty or Maverick.
[01:46] <nigelb> This means there is no documentation for installing software in Unity Interface.
[01:46] <Pendulum> or at least, nothing easily searchable on the web for linking to people
[01:46] <Pendulum> not to mention that it has the most technical solutions first on it before the GUI solution
[01:52] <Pendulum> jcastro: actually it seems that there's Maverick documentation for installing software, no Natty info on it and the pages you get when you google is https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingSoftware which has no indication that it's not current unless you know it isn't for a fact
[01:53] <Pendulum> oh, nigelb found Natty info
[01:53] <Pendulum> but it's really confusing
[01:53] <Pendulum> (to try to find any of it)
[01:53] <Pendulum> seems it's probably another spot that needs clean up ;-)
[01:55] <mhall119> nigelb: go to sleep!
[02:02] <Pendulum> mhall119: he did
[02:02] <nigelb> Not rreally.
[02:02] <Pendulum> nigelb: GO TO BED
[02:02] <nigelb> I just realized I was halfway through laundry. Just finished.
[02:02] <nigelb> Okay okay okay.
[02:03] <Pendulum> it's past my bedtime, it must be past yours
[02:03] <nigelb> Pendulum: Its more like wake up time....
[02:03] <nigelb> 6:30 am :)
[02:03] <nigelb> mhall119: The sun is in my eye :|
[02:16] <mhall119> you know what helps that?
[02:16] <mhall119> going to bed at a reasonable time
[02:16] <mhall119> like, while the sun is still on the other side of the planet
[03:34] <paultag> Oh, brilliant
[03:34] <paultag> I have new Onric changes being piped to my second monitor as they get uploaded
[03:35] <paultag> BRB
[07:03] <nigelb> mhall119: Well, I had work till 4 am. Can't touch production db till we're not making write calls to it :(
[07:08] <paultag> nigelb: check it, I'm stalking Ubuntu and Debian changes, live -- http://pault.ag:8080/index.html
[07:08] <paultag> nigelb: that comit stuff we were talking about before. I have it running on my secondary.  One love.
[07:13] <nigelb> paultag: are you parsign the changes m/l?
[07:15] <nigelb> popey: <3 schizobird.
[07:15] <nigelb> popey: You actually convinced someone to get proxy support. I hereby declare the word proxy be replaced by popey ;)
[07:53] <dholbach> good morning
[08:19] <dpm> good morning all
[08:36] <dholbach> hola dpm
[08:39] <dpm> hola dholbach
[09:02] <popey> nigelb: cool isnt it :D
[09:11] <nigelb> popey: Indeed!
[09:40] <AlanBell> jcastro: popey: that alt-tab compiz speed setting thingummy
[09:41] <popey> yes
[09:41] <AlanBell> do we know who set it and what the process is for getting it unset?
[09:41] <popey> also known as "what were they thinking with that default!?"
[09:41] <AlanBell> the mouse cursor polling default has changed too
[09:41] <AlanBell> from 10ms to 40ms
[09:41] <popey> I would ask sam spillaz
[09:41] <AlanBell> which makes ezoom choppier than it needs to be
[09:42] <AlanBell> ok, will ask smspillaz
[09:42] <AlanBell> I think there should be a comprehensive review of cool stuff we turned off for unknown reasons
[09:42] <popey> well
[09:43] <popey> some may well be defaults
[09:43] <popey> from upstream
[09:43] <AlanBell> true
[11:00] <dholbach> cjohnston, do you have an idea who could help with the rebranding of the packaging guide? (reuse ubuntu-website/light theme)
[11:05] <nigelb> dholbach: Probably daker or Ronnie. I know the rest of us on the team aren't very great with design :)
[11:07] <dholbach> ok
[11:08] <dholbach> I just thought that cjohnston was interested in helping out too
[11:09] <nigelb> ah, maybe
[11:28] <dholbach> jono, bad news regarding the WI tracker - in one of my blueprints "Work items" was missing from the top of the blueprint whiteboard, so the actions didn't show up on the work item tracker
[11:28] <jono> dholbach, shit
[11:28] <jono> dholbach, how many items?
[11:29] <dholbach> I just wondered why they didn't show up
[11:29] <dholbach> jono, I'll get the line repainted
[11:29] <dholbach> let me check
[11:29] <jono> thanks
[11:29] <dholbach> jono, 12, but some of them should be done and some easy to do
[11:29] <dholbach> let me update
[11:32] <jono> dholbach, np
[11:32] <jono> the sprint should help deal with the delta
[11:32] <dholbach> yes, agreed
[11:33] <cjohnston> dholbach: what in specific about the rebranding?
[11:34] <dholbach> cjohnston, http://people.canonical.com/~dholbach/packaging-guide/html/ looks quite boring
[11:34] <dholbach> cjohnston, somebody started work on branding it like all other Ubuntu material
[11:34] <dholbach> but it wasn't using the ubuntu-website/light-theme
[11:34] <cjohnston> thats right.. its sphinx
[11:34] <dholbach> I blogged about it last week and it looked like you were interested in helping out
[11:35] <cjohnston> we use ubuntu-community-webthemes now.. so /light-base-theme
[11:35] <cjohnston> do you know how the theming works?
[11:35] <cjohnston> I have to leave for work, but I'll check back on here as soon as I can
[11:35] <dholbach> hang on, let me show you the work that's been done already
[11:35] <cjohnston> Maybe PM me with the info?
[11:35] <cjohnston> o/
[11:35] <dholbach> https://code.launchpad.net/~raoul-snyman/ubuntu-packaging-guide/new-colours/+merge/56010
[11:35] <dholbach> sure
[13:00] <jono> dholbach, have you reached out to the mentors yet about the names we identified as menteeS?
[13:00] <jono> mentees
[13:14] <jono> biab
[13:16] <czajkowski> mentos now I want
[13:16] <czajkowski> someone go to the shop please
[13:16] <czajkowski> while I continue to stab lp and iso codes :)
[14:47] <dholbach> jono: I have not reached out to mentors yet, but I'm on it
[15:10] <czajkowski> paultag: darling!!!!!!
[15:14] <mhall119> darling huh?
[15:17] <czajkowski> mhall119: it's not a good sign
[15:17] <czajkowski> trust me
[15:17] <czajkowski> greg-g: and Technoviking also are naughty
[15:18] <mhall119> heh
[15:18]  * mhall119 is going to buy czajkowski that cattle prod
[15:28] <czajkowski> jono: want to help me on a campaign of getting team contacts to be well contactable :)
[15:39] <head_victim> czajkowski: asking a bit much aren't you ;)
[15:40] <czajkowski> you'd think a team contact would you know like to be contacted, listed as the team contact on the loco.u.c mind boggling morning
[15:40] <czajkowski> right off shopping and getting good
[15:42] <popey> good?
[15:43] <czajkowski> food
[15:44] <czajkowski> dear gods
[15:44] <czajkowski> it's been a long morning
[15:44] <czajkowski> breakfast was tea and a banana
[15:44] <czajkowski> I need something big for lunch
[16:07] <mhall119> czajkowski: I re-worded one of your bugs a bit
[16:07] <mhall119> since LD already requires that you enter a contact before saving the team details form
[16:07] <mhall119> the only time contact will be blank is if nobody's updated the form through LD at all
[16:08] <mhall119> but I'm leaving the bug open to see if we can find a way to get more teams to fill that data in
[16:10] <mhall119> czajkowski: Ronnie wrote a patch that would set a team's contact to be the LP team owner if they haven't set anything in LD
[16:10] <mhall119> cjohnston suggested that it use admins instead of, or in addition to, the owner
[16:10] <mhall119> what are your thoughts on that?
[16:11] <czajkowski> mhall119: team owner while it is good doesnt help in some cases
[16:11] <czajkowski> I agree it's better than nothing
[16:11] <czajkowski> but i some cases the team owner is not the team contact
[16:11] <czajkowski> I think the UK is an example of this ..
[16:12] <czajkowski> not 100% on this
[16:12] <mhall119> right, we know that, but if no contact is specified would it be an acceptable temporary value?
[16:12] <mhall119> they can always change it in LD to the proper contact, and then it'll stay that way
[16:13] <mhall119> even if it's not the contact, it at least gets you someone to email to have it updated
[16:13] <czajkowski> nods
[16:13] <czajkowski> yup
[16:13] <mhall119> what are your thoughts on using the LP admins as well as, or instead of, the owner?
[16:16] <AlanBell> czajkowski: the UK is no longer an example of this
[16:16] <AlanBell> but it was up to 4 days ago
[16:19] <czajkowski> mhall119: today I mailed the lp admins
[16:19] <czajkowski> got 2 back saying it was someone elses job
[16:19] <czajkowski> so just means more mails
[16:19] <czajkowski> right running out
[16:19] <czajkowski> bbibab
[16:19] <czajkowski> adlo
[16:21] <jono> czajkowski, bit slammed now, what do you need/
[16:21] <jono> ?
[16:23] <Technoviking> czajkowski: what did I do now?
[16:23] <Technoviking> :)
[16:27] <jcastro> hey AlanBell
[16:27] <jcastro> did you end up screen scraping all that?
[16:27] <AlanBell> o/ jcastro
[16:28] <jcastro> or importing or whatever insane thing you were doing? :)
[16:28] <AlanBell> 20001 pages scooped up so far
[16:28] <AlanBell> halfway there
[16:28] <jcastro> heh
[16:29] <AlanBell> it gets a page every 3 seconds
[16:32] <AlanBell> 279MB of stuff scooped up so far
[16:32] <jcastro> and you're just shoving it into mediawiki?
[16:32] <AlanBell> no, shoving it into text files at the moment, but I will shove it into a local moin wiki
[16:33] <AlanBell> I want to see if there are performance issues relating to the number of pages, or the number of users, or the number of old revisions of pages
[16:33] <AlanBell> I might run a script over it to change to mediawiki format and scoop it into a mediawiki, see if that is any faster
[16:36] <AlanBell> all it does so far is this http://paste.ubuntu.com/631851/
[16:37] <AlanBell> where index.txt is the full list of pages on the wiki
[16:40] <paultag> AlanBell: I love the useragent part ;)
[16:41] <paultag> AlanBell: that
[16:41] <paultag> sorry, not used to my netbook. That is pretty awesome
[16:41] <paultag> you should grep the dump for statistics
[16:42] <AlanBell> heh, yeah, took me a while to figure out why I was getting a 503 from wget but not from a browser :)
[16:42] <AlanBell> yeah, I was grepping it for viagra
[16:42] <paultag> AlanBell: trying to find so sweet deals, yeah?
[16:43] <AlanBell> :)
[16:43] <paultag> :P
[16:43] <AlanBell> last night I took a lot of viagra
[16:43] <AlanBell> spam off the wiki
[16:43] <paultag> HAHA! Hold on, no one move
[16:44] <AlanBell> and did you know the word specialist contains "cialis"
[16:49] <paultag> http://i.imgur.com/pnh9U.png ← It's a new nerd meme
[16:49] <AlanBell> oi!
[16:49] <AlanBell> bad paultag
[16:50] <paultag> AlanBell: No, it's like the other meme, that racist one -- http://s3.amazonaws.com/kym-assets/photos/images/original/000/136/030/tumblr_lmtpmtUYID1qe11kdo1_500.jpg?1308341880
[16:53] <paultag> AlanBell: this one I want to be able to remove, but thought of another one  --  http://me.pault.ag/alan.png
[16:53] <paultag> dude, this could be an amazing meme
[16:53] <paultag> look at how brilliant that is
[16:54] <AlanBell> err, yeah you can remove that one
[16:54] <paultag> AlanBell: hey! the finger command works wonders at getting email and GPG info off the debian servers :)
[16:55] <paultag> OK, I'm off. BBL
[16:55] <AlanBell> yeah, I recall that from uni, I haven't used that for many many years
[16:57] <nigelb> paultag: haha, awesome meme!
[17:04] <dholbach> alrightie, I'll call it a day
[17:04] <dholbach> and see some of you next week
[17:05] <dholbach> have a great weekend everyone!
[17:22] <pleia2> jcastro, jono - is sg coming to do his class today?
[17:23] <jono> pleia2, he is there
[17:23] <jono> different nick
[17:23] <jono> I am asking him to be sg
[17:24] <pleia2> I can update the calendar to be stevegeorge if he'd rather
[17:32] <doctormo> paultag: ping
[17:55] <czajkowski> pleia2: your banner is on its way
[17:55] <pleia2> czajkowski: I saw, thanks :)
[17:55] <czajkowski> jono: not urgent can harass you another time my dear
[17:55] <czajkowski> :P
[17:55] <czajkowski> harass in a good way
[17:58] <jono> thanks czajkowski :-)
[18:02] <czajkowski> I have one task left on my to do list
[18:03] <czajkowski> community week topics
[20:36] <paultag> doctormo: pong
[21:31] <paultag> Oh, brilliant. I got bus working on this, too. Yes.
[21:31] <paultag> bugs *
[23:46] <mhall119> czajkowski: in fairness to IRC, we embed the webchat in LD


[00:19] <InHisName> Yoo Hoo anyone here ?
[00:22] <passstab> heyo
[00:25] <jedijf> present
[00:26] <passstab> nomore :D
[00:26] <passstab> good night
[00:27] <jedijf> good night
[00:29] <InHisName> So short, I couldn't even type in somethin'
[00:30] <InHisName> jedijf: do you know passstab ?
[01:02] <jedijf> InHisName: yes
[09:25] <rmg51> Morning
[10:02] <JonathanD> Morning.
[10:06] <rmg51> o/
[12:20] <InHisName> morning
[12:24] <waltman> Morning.
[12:24] <teddy-dbear> Morning peoples
[12:30] <InHisName> morning bear
[12:33]  * waltman gives teddy-dbear some honey
[13:47] <teddy-dbear> waltman: I'd rather have chocolate :-[
[15:20] <ChinnoDog> I second that. mmm, chocolate
[16:41] <InHisName> I'd trade my chocolate for a full time job.
[16:44] <ChinnoDog> I have acquired chocolate
[16:45] <ChinnoDog> I don't want your full time job though
[16:46] <ChinnoDog> (What is your full time job?)
[16:47] <pleia2> if he had a job, why would he trade chocolate to get one?
[16:48] <ChinnoDog> Oh. I transposed the "my". I thought he was suggesting he would give up his full time job for chocolate.
[16:49] <pleia2> hah
[16:49] <pleia2> other way around seems like :)
[16:50] <InHisName> pleia2 is the bright one
[16:50] <ChinnoDog> Agreed.
[16:51] <waltman> It's tough to afford decent chocolate without a full time job.
[16:52] <InHisName> 11 month old Halloween candy is the best going on a $0 budget.
[16:52] <InHisName> decent it is not.
[17:24] <ChinnoDog> I have eaten a lot of sugar
[17:24] <ChinnoDog> sugar coma now @_@


[02:39] <vanberge_> anybody a dhcp guru?  wondering why my server dishes out IPs starting at the end of the subnet.  i'd like it to start at the begining
[02:47] <bytor4232> vanberge_: Wow.  I never really noticed that.  I think mine get dished out at random.
[02:48] <vanberge_> is there any way to specify that?
[02:48] <vanberge_> like i assigned a scope of <IP_ADDRESS>-<IP_ADDRESS>
[02:48] <vanberge_> and they start at 250, then 249, then 248
[02:58] <bytor4232> Hm.
[02:58] <bytor4232> Not sure.
[02:58] <bytor4232> Actually, I should say, I'm not sure there is an option for that.
[03:35] <youbuntu2008> I tried to start with GTK+ in ubuntu. I worked out to get those things successfully compiled (now in Day #2), but still to no avail. Got stuck at compile GLib, due to iconv or libiconv stuff. How to internationalize it? (Hopefully I'm not 'on my own'... is there any other way to get started with GUI programming?)
[03:40] <youbuntu2008> perhaps, the more accurate question is: How to ENABLE just-compiled libiconv ? (so that i may successfulyl fompile GLib)
[03:49] <ScottK-laptop> youbuntu2008: Note that you are in a server oriented channel.  That seems an odd place to be asking about GUI programming.
[03:50] <youbuntu2008> ops... yes, u r right. At times, got lost in several things at same time :))
[03:51] <youbuntu2008> actually, not 'gui prog' per-se, but more on 'getting those packages to work'
[03:52] <ScottK-laptop> OK, well once you said GTK you had not a hope of being on topic.
[03:55] <youbuntu2008> thanks.
[06:41] <prexium01> Hey all.
[06:41] <prexium01> Anyone know why my server won't boot to a CD after it's already found it?
[06:43] <remote> maybe the bios is not configured to boot from the cd or another device that can boot is priorized over your cd-rom drive
[06:44] <prexium01> I have it set to CD rom boot
[06:44] <prexium01> Like, it says it found the CD and that it's bootable, then it just skips the boot step
[06:47] <prexium01> Nvm, got it.
[06:59] <prexium01> Anyone know why my sever freezes when I start to configure the logical drives in the BIOS?
[07:01] <prexium01> 108 people in here and no one knows?
[07:13] <remote> nobody knows
[07:39] <unewbie> :)
[08:06] <R-edemption> Hello, all. I am having some issues with BIND on a Ubuntu 8.04 server. It continues to fail to start up. After looking in /var/log/daemon.log, it seems as if Bind9 is complaining that it does not have enough permissions to read /etc/named.conf, which is completely untrue as we have tested the permissions and it can read it just fine.
[08:09] <Kamping_Kaiser> R-edemption, guess two things to check - run named's config file checker, and perhaps that aa-* thing
[08:09] <R-edemption> Kamping_Kaiser: Thankyou. I will try that now.
[08:14] <R-edemption> Incase it makes a difference, this is a clean ubuntu 8.04 install that just had Plesk control panel installed.
[08:16] <R-edemption> Kamping_Kaiser: Nothing really helped with those tools.
[09:09] <habit> Hello. Is it possible to install ubuntu as a desktop and transform it to server?
[09:24] <lukehasnoname> you'd have to manually change the kernel
[09:24] <lukehasnoname> but all the packages are there
[09:25] <lukehasnoname> frankly, it'd be easier to grab a server iso and install that.
[10:05] <ghaleb_> hello, I have configured my DHCP server to give fixed-address according to the mac address, but till now, I'm still looking on how to specify the gateway for that address. any help ?
[11:23] <rafiki_> Hello, I just want to know if a server install is suppose to work with sound or not usually ? I notice there is a specific flavor of the kernel.
[11:46] <Kamping_Kaiser> ghaleb, what dhcpd?
[14:17] <Andy_> hi, Im installing 8.04 server on a computer that doesn't have a cd-rom.....I'm booting from a USB-stick but I'm failing at the detect cd-rom step
[14:18] <Andy_> I'm asked to point out where my cd-rom is...../dev/xxx....can I point to my USB-stick here?
[15:48] <vadi2> Can anyone please help me sort out a rewrite rule? It's being overzealous. In one of my wordpress installations I wanted to have a custom url structure, and it told me to put this rule in .htaccess: http://pastebin.com/m79460e76. However now all pages that should give a 404 are caught by that rule and redirected...
[16:47] <SpaceBass> hey folks
[16:48] <SpaceBass> after a recent update, my ldap users can no long sudo
[16:48] <SpaceBass> any thoughts on troubleshooting that? they are in the right group and that group has sudo permissions
[16:49] <SpaceBass> something also broke my netatalk but thats another story
[17:55] <Rafael_> what is the best way of making backups
[17:56] <Rafael_> i use web min to manage my server
[18:03] <SpaceBass> its not webmin  :D
[18:03] <SpaceBass> webmin is pretty insecure and is regarded as kind of a bad idea
[18:03] <SpaceBass> rsync is a great built in tool for backups
[18:04] <SpaceBass> as is tar
[18:04] <SpaceBass> what exactly do you want to do?
[19:29] <Rafael> I use webmin to manage my serrver, anybody know how to make backups of the server thru webmin
[19:31] <sergevn> Rafael: sure there is some kind of rsync plugin
[19:31] <sergevn> you could install rsync and make custom cronjobs in webmin
[20:31] <rgotten> I use webmin for managing my ubuntu server, any good way of doing backups of my server thru webmin
[20:32] <ivoks> we don't support webmin on ubuntu
[20:32] <rgotten> any good way of doing backups of my ubuntu server?
[20:34] <ivoks> tar, mondo, bacula, amanda...
[20:34] <ivoks> it really depends on what you are looking for
[20:36] <rgotten> i am building a server for my office, and would like the following, on one hand an external hard drive conected to the server for dayly, weekely and montly back up, in a way that if a crash happens, i can do a restore and up and running. At the same time i would like to do remote incremental backups from the office server to my home for data only
[20:38] <Deeps> !backup
[20:41]  * delcoyote hi
[20:42] <rgotten> i know you do not support webmin, but i have the server on a closet, and that is why i am using webmin to manage the server, can you please advise another good way of managing the server, remotly?
[20:42] <Deeps> !ebox | rgotten
[20:43] <Deeps> or better yet, start playing with the command line more, learning how that works and using that instead
[20:48] <rgotten> I try ebox when it started a few month ago and lack many features of webmin
[21:11] <AnRkey> how do i restart inetd?
[21:12] <AnRkey> wtf? i just installed openbsd-inetd and then restarted vmware services
[21:12] <AnRkey> and boom
[21:12] <AnRkey> working
[21:12] <ivoks>  /etc/init.d/openbsd-inetd
[21:33] <SpaceBass> after a recent update, my ldap users can no long sudo
[21:33] <SpaceBass> any thoughts on troubleshooting that? they are in the right group and that group has sudo permissions
[21:33] <SpaceBass> something also broke my netatalk
[21:33] <lukehasnoname> SpaceBass: does it say "Unable to resolve host"
[21:33] <SpaceBass> lukehasnoname, the sudo issue? no
[21:33] <SpaceBass> askes for password several times then denies access
[21:33] <lukehasnoname> sry I didn't read enough. I can't help.
[21:38] <SpaceBass> no prob
[21:39] <SpaceBass> one more question - I'm running server edition but with xbuntu-desktop install ... how can I change the run level so it does not start X
[21:40] <SpaceBass> everything I've read suggests that changing the run level in ubuntu doesn't effect the GUI enviroment
[21:41] <ivoks> ubuntu doesn't have gui runlevel
[21:41] <ivoks> display manager is started from any runlevel, except 0, 1 and 6
[21:42] <SpaceBass> exactly
[21:42] <SpaceBass> so how do I prevent it from starting
[21:42] <ivoks> remove display manager from runlevel
[21:43] <ivoks> if 2 is default runlevel
[21:43] <ivoks> then remove display manager from /etc/rc2.d/
[21:44] <SpaceBass> gotcha
[21:45] <SpaceBass> ty
[21:45] <ivoks> i don't know wich dm you are using
[21:45] <ivoks> gdm/kdm/xdm...
[21:46] <SpaceBass> xdm
[21:50] <afief> is it possible to install Ubuntu remotely?
[22:01] <SpaceBass> afief, on what hardware?
[22:02] <afief> SpaceBass, an intel xeon machine
[22:03] <SpaceBass> afief, you'd have to get the media (CD) there somehow... but you should be able to redirect the output
[22:03] <SpaceBass> not sure though
[22:04] <afief> SpaceBass, yup got the media in there, but the guy who was supposed to install the machine knows nothing about partitioning, so I was wondering if I could to it remotely(as opposed to driving to the datacenter tomorrow morning)