[00:13] <kamusin> How can I add a bug watch to a report like bug 183553
[00:13] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 183553 in kguitar "kguitar crash when you open gp3 (guitarpro) file." [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/183553
[00:27] <ari-tczew> hello
[00:28] <ari-tczew> please review this bug #421684
[00:28] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 421684 in linux "bluetooth send malformed files " [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/421684
[00:33] <Omar87> mzz, hi.
[00:33] <Omar87> mzz, man, my problem is still refusing to go away.
[02:51] <MTecknology> How can i deny a bug nomination?
[02:52] <MTecknology> or reject*
[02:52] <micahg> what do you mean MTecknology?
[02:53] <MTecknology> like, if a bug is nominated for karmic, but it shouldn't be
[02:54] <micahg> you need to be a core-dev I think
[02:54] <lifeless> 'decline for'
[02:54] <micahg> or some higher level than -control
[02:54] <lifeless> and yes, its permission based. I think you need to be bug supervisor or driver.
[02:54] <lifeless> possibly driver
[02:55] <MTecknology> ok
[02:55] <MTecknology> I'll just toss teh link in here
[02:55] <MTecknology> https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/405120
[02:55] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 405120 in linux "resume from suspend doesn't work (powers off instead) for Acer Timeline 3810t/3410t" [Undecided,Confirmed]
[03:08] <micahg> MTecknology: the nominate for release is for SRUs as well, so it might be valid
[03:08] <MTecknology> oh, ok
[03:08] <MTecknology> I need to read up on all of that more
[03:09] <MTecknology> I just saw it and was curious if I could do it at all
[11:03] <andre__> i installed ubuntu netbook remix 9.04 on a usb stick and booted it on a lenovo ideapad s12. when it comes to X the display goes nuts and is unreadible, when using the "Safe Graphics Mode" i end up with a blinking cursor before X starts. any ideas where to start debugging?
[11:03] <andre__> (note: S12 has no cd drive, that's why)
[12:33] <asac> andre__: i would suggest to try latest dailies of 9.10
[12:34] <andre__> the beta? or are dailies available as img/iso files too?
[12:34] <andre__> asac, ^
[12:34] <asac> andre__: dailies are a better target
[12:35] <asac> andre__: dailies should be available as isos
[12:35] <andre__> any URL?
[12:35] <andre__> problem is anyway that i have to convert them to be able to write them to a usb stick :-/
[12:35] <asac> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-netbook-remix/daily-live/
[12:35] <asac> andre__: you can use usb-creator
[12:36] <asac> usb-creator-gtk in karmic ... i think something like that exists for jaunty too
[12:36] <andre__> thanks a lot. i will try
[12:38] <davmor2> andre__: Sys->Admin->USB Startup Disk Creator
[12:38] <andre__> thanks. crossing my fingers
[12:38] <davmor2> andre__: if you have a windows machine also the app is on the iso
[12:38] <andre__> i have a windows machine, but without a cd drive
[12:39] <andre__> plus two linux machines, one with 9.10beta
[12:39] <andre__> i'll try. thanks again
[14:36] <MagicFab> Hi all. Can someone confirm this bug ? Rather easy to check/reproduce: https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/dell/+bug/444147
[14:36] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 444147 in brother-lpr-drivers-laser "Missing LPIA build of brother-* packages" [Undecided,New]
[14:36] <MagicFab> (please)  :)
[15:54] <bddebian> Boo
[16:09] <hggdh> MagicFab: you did notice the package is not being built for LPIA, right?
[16:10] <MagicFab> hggdh, yes, and that's the bug. Or if it's intended behavior, I don't get it.
[16:11] <hggdh> I am guessing -- without going through the changelogs -- that LPIA was dropped. The question, I think, would be 'why'
[16:12] <hggdh> hum. And we are at the same version since (at least) Hardy
[16:14] <hggdh> MagicFab: it does not look like it ever was intended for LPIA
[16:15] <MagicFab> hggdh, without as much as "confirmed" I don't stand much chance of getting anyone's attentio, do I ? :)
[16:16] <hggdh> MagicFab: heh. I agree, will confirm
[16:16] <MagicFab> that's why I want anyone to confirm it (as it's easily see they're missing, but not why)
[16:16] <MagicFab> seen*
[16:18] <hggdh> MagicFab: done
[16:18] <MagicFab> :) tx
[16:18] <hggdh> welcome
[16:19] <MagicFab> I don't have high hopes but my wife does :) LPIA on her netbook is missing those drivers.
[16:19] <hggdh> did you try to add LPIA, and build it?
[16:19] <hggdh> (just in case it, ah, might work)
[16:20] <hggdh> if it does so (against all my expectations), then you have a clear cut case
[16:21] <hggdh> but then, my expectations are usually wrong ;-)
[16:26] <hggdh> MagicFab: uh, this is ugly -- the package pretty much repackages a series of .debs, probably packaged elsewhere
[16:29] <MagicFab> hggdh, not a builder myself, no.
[16:29] <MagicFab> Yes, it's ugly but convenient non-free software repackaged. I'll probably sell the brother printer just because of that.
[16:30] <MagicFab>
[16:30] <MagicFab> The HP 3035 mutlifunction seems like the perfect candidate.
[16:30] <hggdh> MagicFab: no prob. But I think you will have to get to the source (brother?). I also have brother(s), but not on LPIA
[16:31] <MagicFab> sorry 3055
[16:37] <hggdh> yeah, just looked at the brother linux offerings, they do not say anything about LPIA
[16:38] <MagicFab> I doubt they'll ever will.
[17:57] <I7uoHeoka> i need a help. i'm russian. i can win iPod nano 8GB if you help me. please register and upload photo -> http://vk.com/reg1051946 . 14 users need. (sorry, my english is very bad)
[17:59] <Pici> spam :(
[18:17] <hggdh> heh
[18:19] <chrisccoulson> can i win ipod nano too?
[18:19] <chrisccoulson> oh, he left already
[18:21] <micahg> no, you have to spam IRC channels to win :P
[18:28] <hggdh> oh the other hand, I have a sansa fuze that does not mount on Karmic. Perhaps you might win it ;-)
[18:46] <arand> I want to run apport-cli on a bug report and get out the files that are sent to launchpad without actaully sending them (no, apport unpack will not do it) Is this possible?
[18:49] <MagicFab> arand, nasty but will work: file the bug report as private, then download the attachments ?
[18:51] <arand> *Sigh, fair enough, petrol lights the candle...
[18:52] <chrisccoulson> hggdh - could i ask a favour of you?:)
[18:52] <chrisccoulson> would you mind closing gnome bug 596897 as resolved for me please?
[18:52] <ubot4> Gnome bug 596897 in plugins "Ignores variants in $GDM_KEYBOARD_LAYOUT" [Major,Unconfirmed] http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=596897
[18:52] <chrisccoulson> i just committed pitti's patch and can't close the bug ;)
[18:53] <hggdh> chrisccoulson: you commited to GIT upstream? Can I have a blurb?
[18:53] <chrisccoulson> hggdh - http://git.gnome.org/cgit/gnome-settings-daemon/commit/?id=3d5189d3984980ec97d794f7bde6159bc97e1379
[18:54] <hggdh> and close resolved/fixed, correct?
[18:54] <chrisccoulson> hggdh - yes please:)
[18:54] <hggdh> chrisccoulson: done, thank you
[18:54] <chrisccoulson> hggdh - thank you!
[18:55] <hggdh> yw
[19:08] <arand> I am worrying about Bug #445067 Am I right in doing so? Should it be a higher prio? Should I poke maintainer?
[19:09] <ubot4> arand: Error: Could not parse data returned by Launchpad: The read operation timed out
[19:09] <arand> Bug #284377 was the right one...
[19:09] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 284377 in linux "No NET with 2.6.27: No buffer space available" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/284377
[19:10] <arand> Aaargh, No it was https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/445067
[19:10] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 445067 in ubiquity "ubiquity overwrites VBR of extended partition" [Undecided,New]
[19:26] <Pres-Gas> I was wondering, is there a reason ubuquity no longer asks about the hardware clock and UTC in the karmic installer?
[19:38] <micahg> can someone look at bug 417757 please? not quite sure what to do with it, but seems important
[19:38] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 417757 in network-manager "[karmic regression] all network apps / browsers suffer from multi-second delays by default due to IPv6 DNS lookups" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/417757
[19:48] <hggdh> |well, it is certainly an issue, so I would say at least confirmed
[19:49] <hggdh> I am not sure, though, about the fix. Jeroen proposes a bypass that seems to work
[19:49] <micahg> hggdh: you think it's kernel related?  I'm tempted to set to high...
[19:50] <micahg> but would rather have it triaged by the appropriate team
[19:50] <hggdh> no, I do not think it is kernel. Sounds network-related up and down
[19:50] <hggdh> but a query to -kernel may clarify, just in case
[19:52] <hggdh> micahg: I would say high is goof
[19:52] <hggdh> good
[19:57] <hggdh> micahg: jk- from -kernel does not think it is kernel-related. n-m sounds good, I think
[19:59] <micahg> ok
[20:00] <micahg> asac: mozilla-imagezoom ff3.0 only
[20:01] <micahg> oops wrong channel :)
[20:02] <hggdh> well, he got it, anyway ;-)
[20:43] <bdmurray> hggdh: could you look at bug 394808?
[20:43] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 394808 in texinfo "info reader now chokes on tab characters in info files" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/394808
[20:52] <xteejx> hi all
[21:34] <xteejx> bug 162579, can't find a duplicate, can someone help please :)
[21:34] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 162579 in tracker "Eats CPU after DBus connection lost" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/162579
[22:12] <hggdh> bdmurray: will do
[22:13] <micahg> bdmurray: I take it no meeting this month
[22:14] <bdmurray> micahg: likely not is there something you wanted to discuss though?
[22:15] <micahg> nah, it can wait till next month
[22:17] <micahg> just want to make sure I don't miss it :)
[22:20] <BUGabundo> evening
[22:31] <xteejx> BUgabundo, hey
[22:33] <BUGabundo> hey xteejx
[22:33] <hggdh> bdmurray: bug 394808 is confirmed.
[22:33] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 394808 in texinfo "info reader now chokes on tab characters in info files" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/394808
[22:35] <xteejx> Guys, what is pinentry used for and how do I invoke it to test bug 162585 in Karmic?
[22:35] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 162585 in pinentry "pinentry-gtk2 receives keystrokes even without focus" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/162585
[22:36] <xteejx> BUGabundo: any ideas? ^ or hggdh
[22:37]  * BUGabundo reads backlog
[22:37] <BUGabundo> only know two
[22:37] <BUGabundo> pineentry-qt and -gtk
[22:37] <xteejx> pinentry-gtk2 :)
[22:37] <xteejx> what does it do?
[22:37] <hggdh> pineentry is used to enter passphrase for PGP/GNUpg keys
[22:37] <xteejx> ahhh, is it a standard part of ubuntu?
[22:38] <hggdh> it is a fallback if the seahorse interface is not working, I believe
[22:38] <xteejx> oh...i'm trying to invoke it to test the above bug in karmic
[22:39] <xteejx> i don't want to keep asking other people to test it if i can do it myself :)
[22:41] <BUGabundo> eheh
[22:43] <xteejx> i tried running pinentry-gtk-2 from terminal it basically just asks me what i want to do lol
[22:44] <BUGabundo> behare!!!
[22:44] <BUGabundo> you can lock access to your system
[22:44] <hggdh> you can try to rename seahorse-agent, and do something that will ask for your SSH passphrase
[22:44] <BUGabundo> I had a bug on kde apps, where pineentry would go into background
[22:44] <BUGabundo> and I would lose control of the keyboard
[22:44] <BUGabundo> luckyly it was fixed
[22:45] <hggdh> sounds similar to the one xteejx is working on, BUGabundo
[22:45] <xteejx> it does
[22:45] <BUGabundo> humm??
[22:45] <BUGabundo> but its from interpid!!
[22:45] <xteejx> only this bug report says that pinentry steals window focus completely
[22:45] <BUGabundo> I "fix" it temporarily by using -gtk instead
[22:45] <BUGabundo> yep
[22:46] <BUGabundo> that is what happened to me
[22:46] <BUGabundo> but on background
[22:46] <xteejx> but everything you typed still went into it?
[22:46] <BUGabundo> no way to TYPE into it
[22:46] <xteejx> ahhhh reversed ;)
[22:46] <xteejx> from bug report "If a pinentry dialog pops up, it takes all keystrokes."
[22:48] <hggdh> maxb: ping
[22:48] <xteejx> pong lol
[22:48] <hggdh> hum. Bad DNS resulution ;-)
[22:48] <xteejx> hahaha :P
[22:49] <BUGabundo> ahah
[22:49] <BUGabundo> xteejx: humm let me think
[22:49] <BUGabundo> I remember it taking input, but not accepting it!!!
[22:49] <BUGabundo> ohhh
[22:49] <BUGabundo> one more thing
[22:50] <BUGabundo> this only happen if I had ANY windows in FULL screen mode
[22:50] <BUGabundo> not if the were all in regular windowed mode
[22:50] <xteejx> ahh i see
[22:50] <BUGabundo> but I used to get it *a lot*
[22:50] <BUGabundo> causei used Kmail in full scree
[22:50] <BUGabundo> since I had a 12" lcd
[22:51] <BUGabundo> so when I was going to reply to an email, and pineentry asked for my PGP pass
[22:51] <BUGabundo> I would loose control , and had to force reboot
[22:51] <BUGabundo> since I couldn't even go to TTY to kill gdm :(
[22:51] <xteejx> sounds VERY much like this bug report, total system failure
[22:51] <BUGabundo> so it's a serious regression
[22:52] <xteejx> definitely
[22:52] <xteejx> High or critical?
[22:52] <xteejx> i put high
[22:53] <hggdh> yeah
[22:53] <BUGabundo> depends on many users are affected by it
[22:53] <BUGabundo> medium for sure, since it
[22:53] <BUGabundo> takes user control
[22:54] <BUGabundo> HIGH if it affects a great deal of users
[22:54] <BUGabundo> plus we are on pre-RC
[22:54] <BUGabundo> which would escalete it
[22:54] <hggdh> it has the potential of being nasty
[22:54] <xteejx> thats what i'm thinking
[22:54] <BUGabundo> xteejx: mind finding my old one, and see if anything usefull is in there?
[22:54] <xteejx> could easily become a MAJOR problem
[22:55] <xteejx> i don't know your LP lol
[22:55] <xteejx> i'm off for a minute anyway, will dc while i take laptop upstairs brb
[22:56] <BUGabundo> errr
[22:56] <BUGabundo> how hard can " BUGabundo " be ?!
[23:01]  * hggdh refuses to bite
[23:17] <xteejx> back
[23:18] <BUGabundo> xteejx: (10:56:17 PM) freenode: how hard can " BUGabundo " be ?!
[23:18]  * xteejx is confused
[23:19] <xteejx> i read that bug report wrong, its not a potential disaster :) it just steals keystrokes, you can still esc out of it (i think) will deal with it tomorrow, am tired
[23:19] <xteejx> i set it medium anyway
[23:19] <BUGabundo> ESC never worked for me :(
[23:20] <xteejx> hmm
[23:21] <xteejx> like i say i'll leave it til tomorrow, unless you want to take it over BUGabundo, you've encoutered this before, you're probably better looking at it than me :D
[23:22] <BUGabundo> nope
[23:22] <BUGabundo> to busy already
[23:22] <BUGabundo> thanks for the offer
[23:22] <xteejx> lol
[23:22] <xteejx> well i'm gonna leave you guys to it must get a lot of beauty sleep in :P
[23:23] <xteejx> night all
[23:39] <BUGabundo> guys
[23:40] <BUGabundo> anyone has the wiki pages that dtchen has been writing to help triagers and users debug PA and alsa bugs?
[23:40] <BUGabundo> !audio
[23:40] <BUGabundo> !PA
[23:40] <ubot4> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[23:40] <ubot4> Factoid 'PA' not found
[23:40] <BUGabundo> bah ALSA??? bad bot
[23:40] <BUGabundo> !pulseaudio
[23:40] <ubot4> PulseAudio is a sound server intended as a drop-in replacement for !ESD - See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PulseAudio for information and installation instructions
[23:41] <BUGabundo> not that one either


[03:53] -SwissBot:#xubuntu-devel- ::xfce-announce:: ANNOUNCE: thunar 4.17.10 released @ http://www.mail-archive.com/xfce-announce@xfce.org/msg00698.html


[02:44] <phunyguy> @mark #ubuntu-offtopic st3ven more trouble with forkbombs and such.
[02:44] <phunyguy> @mark #ubuntu-offtopic st3ven more trouble with forkbombs and such. (retroispresto)
[02:44] <phunyguy> there.
[03:12] <elky_> that guy seems to need a lot of babysitting
[03:16] <phunyguy> yep.
[04:04] <st3ven> I know I'm really close to being banned again, so I decided to apologise here for distrupting the channel.
[04:07] <Flannel> Instead of apologising, try to just not continue to do the things that make you need to apologise.
[04:08] <st3ven> I'll do both.
[04:08] <Flannel> Even better.
[04:26] <Moonwalker> Hi members of the IRC Council. I wrote to you about the op issues in #ubuntu-cn, but no response yet. Could anybody help?
[04:27] <rww> this isn't the IRC Council channel, try #ubuntu-irc-council
[04:27] <Moonwalker> oh, thank you.


[10:02] <Akiva-Thinkpad> how do I propose a branch that has been pushed, to be merged into trunk, from the commandline?
[10:06] <wgrant> Akiva-Thinkpad: You could use 'bzr lp-propose', but most people use the web UI.
[10:06] <Akiva-Thinkpad> wgrant, thanks
[10:06] <Akiva-Thinkpad> ordinarily I do
[10:06] <Akiva-Thinkpad> but this is a library import update across all the core apps
[10:06] <Akiva-Thinkpad> qtquick 2.0 to 2.3...


[00:22] <arraybolt3> user|22: Do you have a different mouse you can try? This sounds more like a hardware problem to me.
[00:22] <arraybolt3> user|22: Also try plugging the mouse into a different USB port.
 MONQ
 Hey
 Any developers around?
 I wanted to ask about a matter about Kubuntu project
 Hi (re @FakeShell: Hey
 Any developers around?
 I wanted to ask about a matter about Kubuntu project)
 Oh hey Hi
 That was quick haha
 So we have a mirror of Kubuntu running on our server
 https://mirror.bardia.tech/ubuntu-dvd/kubuntu/releases/
 and wanted to add that to the list of mirrors
 Our official Ubuntu mirrors can be inspected here
 See: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Mirrors
 https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Mirrors#Communication
 email adresss at the bottom there, which I assume is still valid
 Well yes but isn't that canonicals?
 That URL is for Kubuntu
 Aren't these different projects? (Or i'm getting something mixed up)
 Kubuntu is a flavour of Ubuntu. If you have a mirror for Kubuntu, it needs to be a mirror of the entire Ubuntu archive to be valid, so if that is what you have done then yes that address applies
 Oh ok
 Well yeah we have the entire Ubuntu archive and daily builds available so i guess i have to apply there
 Ziag
 C0VD
 Guys, read this and try to help me.
 For the guy who find a solution to this, there are free crypto money.
 My Main pc setup:
 Os: kubuntu (Plasma stuffs)
 Version: 22.04
 Im using some python scripts to connect with Telegram and do some cool stuffs, for this i need Proxy IPv6.
[09:56] <ivan_> does anyone know hpt top enable the tap to click opetion in kubunut? clicking the touchpad is annoying. i have the option but it is greyed out
[10:41] <mparillo> I know it sounds strange, but sometimes it is greyed out, and I reboot and it is selectable.
[10:42] <mparillo> Of course, it is possible your touchpad requires you install a special driver.
[12:32] <BluesKaj> Hi all
[13:25] <BluesKaj> !ask
 How to upgrade kubuntu 20.04 to 21.10
[14:25] <alkisg> Wait until August, then update 20.04 to 22.04
[14:25] <BluesKaj> @Oov, easier upgrade from one LTS to the next which is 22.04, sudo do-release-upgrade -d, but make sure your 20.04 packages are up to date first
 I'm running kubuntu 21.10 (full upto date) and I have not recieved a notification on upgrading to 22.04
 So should I wait or force the update myself
 Is there any thing I need to (i knowing the basics) know/consider before updating ??
[16:26] <enigma9o7[m]> If you want maximum stability, wait.
[16:27] <enigma9o7[m]> If you want to update now, and don't mind troubleshooting if something doesn't work right, go for it now.
[16:28] <enigma9o7[m]> You can force it with `sudo do-release-upgrade -d`
 Hi guys!i had installed kubuntu and had some problems with desktop wallpaper..i changed it but when i reboot the system..it change back to the default wallpaper..anyone had that problem before?


[01:20] <grady> how i disable this annoying screen layout thing what i get when log in to my desktop?
 Hello Rik @acheronuk! I used a new bot CashTip to tip you yesterday. Please let me know if you received it so I know whether to trust it for future tipping. Thanks.
 @Anarchotaoist, Not a clue where to look. Nothing seems to have happened though. As nice a gesture as that may be, please don't do this on our support channels.
[08:48] <Alexfrench> good sunday
 @acheronuk, Ok, sorry Rik. Considering donations/tipping are common practice to give support and show gratitude in the FOSS world I did not think tipping here would be a problem. Apologies. Apparently there is no notification for the tip. In any case, If you wish to collect you need to type: 1. http://t.me/CashTipBetaBot  2. /balance 3. /withdraw -to take the funds out to an external wallet. I hope I have not offended with this.
[12:44] <solidfox> hello. there is a bug in kubuntu 18.04 currently in the update program.
[12:45] <solidfox> it just sits there doing nothing and I have to xkill it
[12:46] <solidfox> [time]
[12:47] <solidfox> took less than 2 minutes to update via sudo apt update/upgrade
[12:51] <Alexfrench> yes it is a bit tricky
[12:52] <Alexfrench> one time it works one time no
[14:32] <kaddi> hi i'm having issues with kaddressbook. It won't let me add anything to the addressbook. Do I need to create something first?
[14:32] <kaddi> I open the app, click on add contact, enter the info, click on ok and the data just disappears
[14:33] <kaddi> when I run it form konsole it says:
[14:33] <kaddi> org.kde.pim.akonadicore: Deleting items from the akonadi database failed: "No items found"
[14:33] <kaddi> org.kde.pim.akonadicore: Deleting items from the akonadi database failed: "No items found"
[14:36] <BluesKaj> Howdy folks
[14:37] <kaddi> heya :)
[14:37] <kaddi> Do you know if kaddressbook needs to be configured in a way before one can use it?
[14:38] <kaddi> eh.. looks like I have a bug. lol
[14:39] <solidfox> kaddi: I have a bug too
[14:39] <solidfox> kaddi: the update tool hangs and does nothing after I enter my password to update.
[14:39] <kaddi> oh I have that too. Lol. I've been thinking about just rebooting. For me the command line updates still work. So I just use that instead
[14:39] <solidfox> kaddi: I told about it at 8:44 and it is 10:39
[14:39] <kaddi> It's sunday ;)
[14:40] <kaddi> I luckily just figured out my issue. Default kaddressbook wants to write contacts to .local/share/contacts but doesn't check if the folder exists so it silently fails. Adding it again as personal address book created the folder and now I can add contacts :)
[14:51] <Alexfrench> you can install thunderbird maybe too
[14:51] <Alexfrench> i haven't set up yet my mail client
[14:51] <Alexfrench> so i'll try
[15:38] <grady> how to configure right ctrl to work as "menu key"
[15:39] <grady> options offer me only a option to use menu key as a ctrl


[10:59] <Fallen> teward: thanks, good to know. I am hoping it will just work, it is apparently the solution that Libera suggests. Telegram will be an interesting part of the conversation on bridging in the longer term project.
[10:59] <Fallen> teward: yes, feel free to set up a meeting. Fairly busy this week, but if needed I can meet. You have my meeting link?
[11:00] <Fallen> teward: if you could maybe complete that report we've been chatting about by then as well? I'd like to get that off the table.


[06:57] <ara> good morning all!
[07:02]  * ara takes ubuntu server i386 full disk to start the day with
[07:54]  * ara takes ubuntu server i386 (default + crypted LVM)
[08:29] <davmor2> Morning all
[08:43] <ara> morning davmor2
[12:19] <ara> quick reminder to all people at #ubuntu-testing: we are now testing Karmic Beta!! http://ubuntutesting.wordpress.com/2009/09/29/karmic-beta-testing/
[12:38]  * ara takes ubuntu desktop i386 full disk
[12:40]  * ara -> lunch
[12:57] <davmor2> hey fader|away stop hiding we know you're there really :)  good news dude side by side installs work again :)
[12:58] <davmor2> I'll save the bad for latter :)
[14:22] <davmor2> cr3: morning dude
[14:24] <cr3> davmor2: yo mama
[14:25] <davmor2> cr3: that's a scary thought if every I had one, being your momma ;)
[14:27] <cr3> davmor2: that could explain a lot though
[14:28] <pedro_> hah hey folks
[14:28] <davmor2> hello pedro_
[14:28] <fader_> davmor2: What's the bad news?
[14:31] <davmor2> fader_: yes wubi still broke, oem should be fixed, side by side works,  the biggest bad news means you've got more tests to run ;)
[14:32] <fader_> davmor2: I guess you keep me off the streets and out of trouble
[14:32] <fader_> ;)
[14:33] <davmor2> I thought the chains and straight jacket did that :P
[14:36] <davmor2> right ubuntu back up to date I'm starting on alternate I think
[14:38] <fader_> davmor2: I've got some reports to run and then I'll start testing images, assuming you leave any for anyone else :)
[14:39] <davmor2> fader_: these are only dummies to play with they will be respun for wubi if nothing else :)
[14:39] <davmor2> fader_: You know me full of good news :)
[14:39] <fader_> Heh
[14:40] <fader_> You just want them all for yourself
[14:40] <davmor2> no, no I'm not a hog help yourself ;)
[14:53] <ara> davmor2, is alt going to be respun as well? I thought it was not
[14:53] <davmor2> ara: alt has been respun .2
[14:54] <davmor2> ara: in saying that though it doesn't mean it won't get respun.  Depends on the blockers
[14:54] <ara> davmor2, yes, that's what I meant. That there is not going (hopefully) to be a .3
[14:55] <ara> it might or it might not
[14:55] <ara> .2 can be beta
[14:55]  * ara takes alt i386 full disk
[14:55] <davmor2> ara: probably be a whole new image to start again with tomorrow
[14:55] <ara> davmor2, as usual :D
[14:55] <davmor2> ara: already running it
[14:55] <davmor2> along with 64bit
[14:56] <ara> davmor2, ok, then I'll go with auto-resize
[14:56]  * ara takes i386 alt auto-resize
[15:36] <davmor2> ara: on your next run can you check something for me please open empathy, close the account window, hit edit accounts and create an irc channel account, wait for nickserve to appear in the indicator applet and then click on it.  read it close the window and see if the nickserve message stays in the indicator applet.   Only seems to effect first run
[15:36] <davmor2> if you click it again empathy should just crash out
[15:36] <ara> davmor2, confirmed, that happens to me in my karmic installation
[15:37] <ara> davmor2, for jabber messages as well
[15:37] <ara> davmor2, don't know how to reproduce it consistently, though
[15:37] <davmor2> bug 438656
[15:37] <ubot4`> davmor2: Bug 438656 on http://launchpad.net/bugs/438656 is private
[15:38] <davmor2> un privates it
[15:38] <ara> is an ubuntu bug? or some other project?
[15:39] <davmor2> I think it is to do with the behaviour within the indicator applet it never crashed out on me before
[15:44] <ara> davmor2, indeed it is related with the indicator-applet call back
[15:57]  * davmor2 takes encrypt lvm on 32 and 64 ubuntu
[16:03]  * ara takes alternate i386 expert mode
[16:04] <fader_> davmor2: What's the scoop on mythbuntu?  Is it going to be respun soon?
[16:05] <davmor2> pass
[16:06] <davmor2> no I think .2 is safe for today at the moment at least
[16:10] <fader_> Woohoo
[16:11] <davmor2> fader_: notice the uses of the word moment ;)
[16:11] <fader_> Shhh, leave me my beautiful illusions.
[16:13] <davmor2> fader_: shouldn't there be a d in front of that last word
[16:16] <fader_> Probably.
[16:37]  * davmor2 takes rescue and freedesktop on alt ubuntu
[16:37] <davmor2> oh and makes a start on kub alt
[16:42] <pvullo> hi ! to test the (futur) Karmic beta, I just have to replace Jaunty by Karmic in my sources.list ? Or I have to do something else ?
[16:43] <davmor2> pvullo: just run update-manager -d iirc
[16:43] <pvullo> without modifying the sources.list !?
[16:43] <pvullo> ok, then
[16:43] <pvullo> .
[16:44] <davmor2> pvullo: yes it does all that for you
[16:44] <fader_> pvullo: "update-manager -d" will do the updating for you
[16:44] <pvullo> great
[16:44] <pvullo> thks
[16:44] <davmor2> fader_: I had to think then haven't done an upgrade in a why :)
[16:44] <davmor2> while even
[16:45]  * fader_ imagines that davmor2 is probably still running warty.
[16:45] <davmor2> fader_: I think I still have the cd knocking about
[16:46] <davmor2> fader_: I tend to do fresh installs and blow out all the cobwebs
[16:47] <fader_> davmor2: Yeah, I'm eagerly awaiting karmic to go gold so I can do the same
[16:49] <davmor2> ditto I'm liking the new look :)
[16:50] <fader_> Indeed
[17:00] <davmor2> fader_: I find the amount of things you don't install goes down each release :)
[17:01] <fader_> Eh?  What do you mean?
[17:02] <davmor2> fader_: I don't make a log of what I install.  So if I don't install in the new version I don't waste the hd space installing it.  not had vbox installed for a while casue of using kvm etc
[17:03] <fader_> Ahh, gotcha
[17:05] <fader_> The new default Myth theme is really nice
[17:27] <fader_> Anybody seen any problems with ubiquity not starting in 'install foobuntu' mode?
[17:27] <fader_> The live environment worked fine but 'Install Mythbuntu' doesn't seem to start Ubiquity :(
[17:28] <fader_> Maybe it's just slow... good excuse to go make some tea.
[17:43] <fader_> bug 438816 if anyone else sees something similar
[17:43] <ubot4`> Launchpad bug 438816 in mythbuntu "Ubiquity doesn't start in 'Install Mythbuntu' mode on latest build" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/438816
[17:49] <davmor2> fader_: maybe your slow and it's finished and your looking at the installed system ;)
[17:49] <fader_> davmor2: If that's the case, the bug is that there's no window manager installed ;)
[17:50] <davmor2> that sounds believable why do you need a windows manager it plugs into the tele right
[17:52] <fader_> Because I like my movies full-screened ;)
[18:09]  * davmor2 takes oems
[19:09] <sbeattie> davmor2: does jockey work correctly for you?
[19:09] <davmor2> sbeattie: on nvidia on ati yes why?
[19:10] <sbeattie> davmor2: okay, just seeing an odd behavior here, where I told it disable fglrx, and the atuhenticate window stayed open after I'd entered my password, blocking jockey from actually doing anything.
[19:11] <davmor2> sbeattie: ah not tried disabling to be honest two ticks
[19:12] <sbeattie> but I'm seeing lots of odd behavior with this hardware, and I'm running my session in vnc, so there's a couple of elements that may be unique to my situation.
[19:13] <davmor2> sbeattie: ah that could be the issue then.  When pitti was fixing an issue with ati not installing he was unable to run jockey using ssh I had to run it locally and then he would pick up the reports
[19:14] <davmor2> oem worked for the first time this release Yay for cjwatson :)
[19:17] <sbeattie> davmor2: also, if you boot into rescue mode, are you then able to fsck the root filesystem?
[19:20] <davmor2> sbeattie:  I can but I don't access the root drive when I do that because that mounts the drive your trying to fsck and it causes issue.  or has for me every time I've run it that way
[19:20] <sbeattie> davmor2: hrm, the option worked in jaunty
[19:21] <davmor2> I'll give it a go and see
[19:22] <davmor2> sbeattie: jockey removes as easily as it installs
[19:28] <davmor2> sbeattie: ah I know why it wasn't that it didn't work fsck threw up the warning running e2fsck on a mount fs may cause severe fs damage
[19:28] <davmor2> but that runs fine after that
[19:30] <davmor2> sbeattie: so jockey removes fine and fsck works too
[19:34] <sbeattie> davmor2: cool, thanks.
[19:35] <davmor2> np's
[19:37]  * davmor2 moves onto Kubuntu alts
[20:16] <bdmurray> davmor2: I just did encrypted lvm i386
[20:16] <bdmurray> well, am doing and need to report it
[20:16] <davmor2> bdmurray: is that on ubuntu or kubuntu?
[20:17] <bdmurray> kubuntu alternate i386
[20:18] <davmor2> thanks I'll skip it for now then :)
[20:38] <davmor2> fader_: did you let the RT know about the install bug you had that is fairly major?
[20:40] <fader_> davmor2: Are you referring to bug 438816?
[20:40] <ubot4`> Launchpad bug 438816 in ubiquity "Ubiquity doesn't start in 'Install Mythbuntu' mode on latest build" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/438816
[20:40] <davmor2> fader_: hang on it's not that it does start then it just goes to desktop instead
[20:40] <fader_> davmor2: Right
[20:41] <fader_> It goes to the desktop with no wm (but it does have an application menu, the icon to launch the installer, etc.)
[20:41] <davmor2> like bug from alpha 6 then ;)
[20:41] <fader_> It didn't seem super-critical to me... something that could be release noted
[20:41] <fader_> Though obviously I'm not the final arbiter of that :)
[20:41] <davmor2> oh that is slightly different then :)
[21:02] <slangasek> new ubuntu desktop ISOs up for testing
[21:06] <slangasek> and kubuntu
[21:09] <slangasek> fader_: and I think bug #438816 is already fixed \o/
[21:09] <ubot4`> Launchpad bug 438816 in ubiquity "Ubiquity doesn't start in 'Install Mythbuntu' mode on latest build" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/438816
[21:09] <fader_> slangasek: w00t!
[21:10] <fader_> slangasek: Are you planning a respin of mythbuntu?
[21:10] <slangasek> fader_: already scheduled
[21:10] <slangasek> (it's right behind xubuntu in the queue)
[21:10] <fader_> Heh, I *just* finished the i386 image ;)
[21:12] <davmor2> fader_: I did say at the MOMENT!!!!!! moment being the operative word :D
[21:12] <fader_> davmor2: Meh, I blame you anyway :)
[21:13] <davmor2> fader_: hey no fair blame is cr3's job
[21:14] <fader_> So 20090929.2 is the most up-to-date on ubuntu desktop now, right?
[21:14]  * fader_ starts a download and steps away for ~10 minutes.
[21:15] <davmor2> fader_: does it say 0/8 on the tracker if so then yes :)
[21:15] <fader_> davmor2: It doesn't  -- that's why I asked
[21:15] <fader_> http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/result/3103/4
[21:15] <fader_> My guess is that's a result from the previous spin that just had bad timing, but I'm not sure
[21:17] <davmor2> fader_: Meh what?
[21:18] <davmor2> fixed loop killed the entire system I can't see that happening some how
[21:28]  * davmor2 installing vista for wubi test (please god work) burning ubuntu i386 installing encrypted lvm on kub 64 and oem on kub 32bit
[21:30] <fader_> davmor2: You've got to be an expert at installing Vista by now :)
[21:30] <davmor2> fader_: it's the wubi test that I want to work :P
[21:31] <davmor2> fader_:  I am an expert at vista installs that's why I've start on the complex install that this thing called ooboontoo uses
[21:32] <davmor2> bit of a challenge I thought
[21:33] <fader_> Heh, it's funny because on the rare occasions that I want to put Windows on a machine, I spend a half day just trying to find drivers and such and swearing about how painful the install is :)
[21:33] <davmor2> really I don't have that issue at all honest gov'nor
[22:04] <slangasek> fader_: mythbuntu posted
[22:05] <fader_> slangasek: Thanks, I'll grab those next.  I'm trying to reproduce lemmyg's bugs on desktop amd64
[22:05] <fader_> (So far no luck there -- it's working for me)
[22:12] <slangasek> fader_: is lemmyg on IRC?  and what's that hash included in his comments?
[22:13] <fader_> slangasek: He doesn't appear to be that I can find... and I have no idea.
[22:13] <slangasek> bad burn, maybe, since that hash isn't anything from our *SUMS files
[22:13] <fader_> Maybe the Md5 of the image he's using?
[22:13] <fader_> Yeah, I checked and couldn't find it there :/
[22:13] <fader_> I'll go comment on his bug that I can't reproduce it and ask him to check his image
[22:14] <fader_> Oh wait, he didn't file one... heh
[22:16] <fader_> slangasek: I'll chuck him an email and ask him to check his image, file bugs in LP when he finds them :) and to consider joining this channel
[22:16] <davmor2> Yay we're so popular now that the tracker's getting spam
[22:22] <fader_> :P
[22:22] <fader_> Assuming it's the same lemmyg on launchpad, he's filed bugs before, so maybe he just forgot or didn't have time
[22:23] <fader_> Maybe we can get him to join us here in the zoo :)
[22:23] <davmor2>  Freak show from independence day (aka the vault)
[22:54] <fader_> I don't know what lemmyg was testing but I can't reproduce it :/
[22:54] <fader_> Though IMO that's good news :)
[23:01] <davmor2> Yay


[08:10] <dholbach> good morning
[15:12] <dpm_> popey, mhall119 could you help me redditting and spreading the word about the hack days announcement? http://davidplanella.org/ubuntu-core-apps-hack-days-back/
[15:12] <dpm_> (thanks!)
[15:12] <popey> kk
[15:13] <popey> http://www.reddit.com/r/Ubuntu/comments/1vy1iz/the_ubuntu_core_apps_hack_days_are_back/
[15:14] <dpm_> \o/
[15:17] <mhall119> dpm_: where have you posted it so far?
[15:20] <dpm> mhall119, App Dev page on FB, App Dev Community and Page on G+, created a FB and G+ event
[15:20] <dpm> and now reddit
[15:20] <mhall119> who has the twitter credentials?
[15:21] <dholbach> mhall119, I posted it there
[15:21] <dpm> awesome, thanks dholbach
[15:24] <popey> \o/ Team effort
[15:29] <dpm> popey, I guess the reminders click package is pending a conclusion on the frameworks discussion on ubuntu-phone before it can be uploaded?
[15:29] <dpm> to the store, I mean
[15:33] <popey> yes, and testing
[15:33] <popey> ---> cwayne
[15:35] <dpm> ok, thanks
[22:28] <czajkowski> .c


[14:01] <chadams42> how can I add a user to have permissions to a folder, without modifying the current permissions I have there?


[00:23] <dvryaboy> Hi, I have a total newbie question.  I'm trying to mirror an apache svn repository on launchpad, so that I can get updates from the main project while tinkering with my proposed features. You can see the branch here: https://code.launchpad.net/~vcs-imports/vlis-pig-cbo/trunk
[00:24] <dvryaboy> for some reason the import fails with "could not connect to server", although I am able to get to the server fine, and use svn to check out. Help?
[00:47] <Box> Hey everyone -- I'm trying to build a PPA for multiple series, which I thought was accomplised by changing the series in the changelog and appending ~intrepid (or whatever) to the version number. But launchpad is rejecting my upload with the message: Version older than that in the archive. 1.0.250~hardy1 <= 1.0.250~jaunty1. Any ideas?
[00:48] <wgrant> Box: Did you change the release name in the changelog?
[00:48] <wgrant> Doesn't look like it.
[00:49] <Box> dag, you're right; I guess I messed that up somehow
[00:50] <Box> thanks much!
[01:42] <laceration> hello, I am here seeking help w/ PPA
[01:45] <laceration> How come I dput-ed my package from a amd64 and the package is listed i386?
[01:46] <laceration> The package is architecture independent anyways.
[01:51] <ojwb> the PPA system rebuilds from the source package, so it has probably just arbitrarily chosen to rebuild your package on i386
[01:52] <ojwb> laceration: ^
[01:54] <laceration> So i386 is meaningless?
[01:57] <ojwb> well, it needs to get rebuilt somewhere
[01:57] <micahg> laceration: architecture independent are all i386
[01:57] <micahg> but they still show up in the amd64 list
[02:01] <laceration> Thank you for answering,  where is the amd64 list?  There isn't anything like that on my PPA page -- I guess I could look at another PPA.
[02:03] <micahg> in the packages file
[02:04] <micahg> where's your ppa?
[02:04] <laceration> I looked at another PPA, It looks like the arch only shows up when there were build failures.
[02:05] <laceration> So if I build it correctly  the issue would be moot.
[02:05] <micahg> laceration: you generally don't have to worry
[02:05] <micahg> Here look at my ppa, phpmyadmin package: https://edge.launchpad.net/~micahg/+archive/ppa/
[02:06] <micahg> it still shows up on the amd64 packages list: http://ppa.launchpad.net/micahg/ppa/ubuntu/dists/jaunty/main/binary-amd64/Packages
[02:07] <micahg> lp just uses i386 instead of noarch
[02:11] <laceration> phpmyadmin--I have appreciated using that for  long time!  I am unclear on the meaning of "build".  Since my package is bash scripts was the build failure in that it got treated as a C program or was it in building the package?
[02:12] <micahg> idk, where's the build log?
[02:13] <laceration> https://launchpad.net/~manzanitalaceration/+archive/ppa/+builds
[02:14] <micahg> cp: cannot stat `./ostv': No such file or directory dh_install: command returned error code 256
[02:14] <micahg> check your rules file
[02:15] <micahg> there are ways to clean up the debian directory for non c programs
[02:15]  * micahg is not an expert on packaging
[02:16] <laceration> I have a lot of trial and error going on there.
[02:16] <micahg> ping wgrant
[02:17] <micahg> ping kfogel
[02:19] <kfogel> micahg: hey
[02:19] <micahg> hi
[02:19] <kfogel> micahg: back in ny now, how are you?
[02:19] <micahg> I'm good
[02:20] <micahg> having a problem with a PPA
[02:20] <micahg> others can get the proper file but I can't
[02:20] <kfogel> micahg: oooh.  I am not the most knowledgeable person about PPAs, but I can try.  What's the problem?
[02:20] <micahg> I can see the updates packages file
[02:21] <kfogel> micahg: (URL?)
[02:21] <micahg> http://ppa.launchpad.net/gm-dev-launchpad/ppa/ubuntu/dists/jaunty/main/binary-amd64/Packages
[02:21] <micahg> but my system keeps pullling down the older version
[02:24] <micahg> I figured it out
[02:24] <micahg> the .bz2 file is old
[02:26] <micahg> anyone know about this
[02:31] <micahg> kfogel: have yyou compiled the list of feature requests for LP 4.0 yet?
[02:43] <jml> kfogel, hello
[03:29] <kfogel> micahg, jml: was on phone, sorry
[03:29] <kfogel> micahg: looking at the problem
[03:29] <kfogel> jml: hey, morning!
[03:30] <kfogel> micahg: oh, you figured it out, good
[03:31] <wgrant> micahg: Do you still have a problem?
[03:40] <micahg> wgrant: nope, thanks
[03:41] <wgrant> micahg: Great.
[10:36] <c_korn> hello
[10:36] <c_korn> is the script available somewhere which marks the bugs as fix released according to the (LP: #xxxxxxx) entries in debian/changelog ?
[10:38] <intellectronica> c_korn: yes, it's part of launchpad itself
[11:19] <geser> has somebody else a layout problem with the portlet in the LP 3.0 style on a widescreen monitor (1920x1200) or is it just me?
[11:20] <wgrant> geser: One of the main content portlets ends up beside the main heading?
[11:21] <geser> e.g. on https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/evolution I see the portlet on the right side below the main content
[11:22] <wgrant> Ah, indeed.
[11:22] <wgrant> That's really odd.
[11:22] <geser> see also my screenshots in bug #419337
[11:24] <geser> it doesn't happen always, just when my browser is wider than a certain value (> 1635 px) e.g. when maximized
[11:42] <AnAnt> Hello, how do I add bug tracker URL to a bug in launchpad?
[11:44] <bigjools> AnAnt: click on one of the "Also affects ..." links
[11:44] <intellectronica> AnAnt: if you just want to create a new watch, you can simply paste the url of remote bug in a comment. if you want that watch to track the status of the bug in launchpad, you can use the 'also affects' action
[11:45] <AnAnt> also affects distro ?
[11:46] <intellectronica> AnAnt: also affects project, in this case
[11:46] <AnAnt> intellectronica: well, I should add a project that's in LP
[11:47] <geser> depends on what you want link (a Debian bug -> also affects distro; a upstream bug tracker -> also affects project)
[11:47] <AnAnt> geser: but the upstream bug tracker is on sourceforge
[11:49] <AnAnt_> but the upstream bug tracker is on sourceforge
[12:11] <yannf> hello
[12:11] <yannf> https://bugs.launchpad.net/openlibrary/+bug/423109 how do I change a new bug I created to wishlist?
[12:16] <noodles775> yannf: click on the edit icon next to the current value in the Importance column (at the top of the bug).
[12:16] <noodles775> (or the value itself for that matter).
[12:17] <intellectronica> noodles775, yannf: actually, that depends on the project. some use the wishlist importance value (which only project drivers can set) but others (like launchpad itself, for example) just tag the bug with something like "feature"
[12:19] <yannf> noodles775, I can't do that, which is quite strange, because I can change the status, but not the importance
[12:19] <noodles775> yannf: as per intellectronica above, I guess you're not a project driver?
[12:20] <wgrant> The project bug supervisor actually, not the driver.
[12:21] <intellectronica> wgrant: well, the bug supervisor or owner if a supervisor isn't set. thanks for the correction
[12:21] <wgrant> intellectronica: Mmm, yes, true.
[12:21] <wgrant> A bit complicated.
[12:22] <intellectronica> yannf: so, i think your best bet is to try and get in touch with the people running the project and find out from them how they usually handle feature requests
[12:22] <yannf> noodles775, effectively, no
[12:22] <wgrant> intellectronica: Rather, I think Launchpad needs to work out a way of using status and importance properly. Since not even LP uses them consistently.
[12:23] <yannf> intellectronica, ok, thanks, OL people are anly active on PST it seems
[12:30] <intellectronica> wgrant: huh? we use them consistently. we don't use the confirmed status and the wishlist importance. if it were up to me they can be removed completely, but there are some projects that do use them
[12:31] <wgrant> intellectronica: Well, some projects use them very differently (eg. Ubuntu), and Launchpad's various projects differ wrt. importance.
[12:34] <intellectronica> wgrant: yes. it's hard to do something that works well for so many projects. consider that LP is still _much_ better than other services which allow you to customize the values on a per-project basis and by this make any cross-project collaboration very hard. but i agree we should try to make this part even cleaner
[13:32] <shakaran> I need some help with my ppa. I have this ppa https://launchpad.net/~shakaran/+archive/ppa and I upload a package, but it dont show anything!
[13:32] <shakaran> http://paste.ubuntu.com/263756/
[13:34] <geser> dput the _source.changes file
[13:34] <shakaran> I sign the deb files with my OpenGPG key that also appear on launchpad
[13:34] <shakaran> I dont undertand you geser, what you mean?
[13:35] <geser> you try to upload the binary build and not the source package alone
[13:36] <shakaran> how to do it? binay build is a .deb file?
[13:36] <shakaran> *binary
[13:36] <geser> yes
[13:37] <shakaran> http://paste.ubuntu.com/263761/
[13:37] <geser> when you  do a "debuild -S -sa" you only build the source package and get a ..._source.changes file for your package which you can dput then
[13:38] <geser> that's exactly what won't work as the PPA excepts that you upload only the source package
[13:39] <shakaran> then I do "debuild -S -sa" now?
[13:39] <geser> yes
[13:39] <geser> that will build only the source package
[13:41] <shakaran> http://paste.ubuntu.com/263764/
[13:41] <shakaran> yes or no?
[13:42] <geser> yes
[13:42] <geser> that's a packaging error but trying to fix it now would probably take to much time
[13:43] <shakaran> http://paste.ubuntu.com/263766/ umn, dont sign...:(
[13:46] <geser> so your name in debian/changelog and on your key don't match so debsign can't figure it out itself
[13:47] <geser> debsign -k"your keyid here" ../tivion_0.0.1-0ubuntu1_source.changes
[13:48] <shakaran> Successfully signed dsc and changes files. Now I do debuild again?
[13:48] <geser> no
[13:49] <geser> just dput this file (tivion_0.0.1-0ubuntu1_source.changes) to your PPA
[13:51] <geser> debuild tries to sign your package after building it but it failed, but we did it afterwards with the debsign (debuild calls also debsign)
[13:51] <shakaran> http://paste.ubuntu.com/263774/
[13:53] <geser> hmm, didn't you signed this file a minute ago?
[13:56] <shakaran> weird things: http://paste.ubuntu.com/263780/
[13:56] <shakaran> I sign and dput again
[13:57] <geser> looks good, now wait on the mail telling you if the upload got accepted or rejected for some reason
[13:58] <shakaran> How much time for get the email?
[14:01] <geser> it may take some minutes
[14:01] <geser> don't remember how often per hour the uploads are processed
[14:02] <shakaran> ok, thanks for your help ;)
[14:11] <deryck> barry, ping.
[14:19] <barry> deryck: pong
[14:47] <shakaran> hi again, my pakage has been rejected by a mistake with path. My ppa is:
[14:48] <shakaran> https://launchpad.net/~shakaran/+archive/ppa
[14:48] <shakaran> What I have change on dput.cf for incoming?
[14:48] <shakaran> I currenly have incoming = ~shakaran/tivion/ubuntu/
[14:48] <shakaran> Maybe incoming = ~shakaran/ppa
[14:48] <shakaran> wih ~?
[14:49] <bigjools> shakaran: ~shakaran/ppa/ubuntu
[14:49] <shakaran> thanks, I will try the upload again
[14:50] <shakaran> umn, I cant upload again, says: Already uploaded to my-ppa on ppa.launchpad.net
[14:51] <bigjools> use dput -f
[14:56] <shakaran> $ dput -f
[14:56] <shakaran> No package or host named.
[14:58] <geser> shakaran: dput -f ... (... = your usual options)
[14:58] <shakaran> ok, I see, rigth now I search in manpage ;)
[14:59] <shakaran> Successfully uploaded packages. Then I need wait again to accepted/rejected?
[14:59] <geser> yes
[15:00] <shakaran> thanks
[15:00] <geser> sinzui: re bug 419337: I still wonder why you can't reproduce it while I see it in two different browsers
[15:00] <shakaran> another question (maybe is better on ubuntu-motu), but how to fix this:
[15:00] <shakaran> dpkg-source: warning: Version number suggests Ubuntu changes, but Maintainer: does not have Ubuntu address
[15:01] <sinzui> geser: It is puzzling. No one else has reported the issue either.
[15:01] <sinzui> geser: your CSS recommendation is correct. The rule should have always been there
[15:04] <geser> it was more try and error than I understood the complete LP CSS layout
[15:06] <sinzui> geser: This rule uses percentages:
[15:06] <sinzui> .yui-t4 .yui-b {
[15:06] <sinzui>     width: 21%;
[15:06] <sinzui>     }
[15:06] <sinzui> but this one used ems. I think they need to use the same unit.
[15:06] <sinzui> #maincontent {
[15:06] <sinzui>     margin-right: -25em;
[15:06] <sinzui>     }
[15:08] <geser> there is also a overridden margin-right: -200px for #maincontent from style-slimmer.css
[15:09] <geser> and also overridden margin-right: -25em fro .yui-main from grids.css
[15:22] <geser> sinzui: does every LP page has a portlet on the right side?
[15:22] <sinzui> geser: no, only pages indexes and collections to show actions, events, and subscribers
[15:26] <geser> sinzui: I've played a little bit with the CSS in firebug and an other option to fix the problem I see is to not overlap the portlet the maincontent div but make the maincontent div take around 77% width and let the remaining space for the portlet
[15:27] <sinzui> geser: yes, I was considering that. The design mandates that I use % in this case
[15:27] <geser> that way I don't need those negative margin-right
[15:29] <sinzui> geser: We intend to remove all the # instructions from the file in a few weeks
[15:30] <geser> I've read it in the CSS file
[15:31] <sinzui> geser: So I need a hack to keep the pages sane until then. I think This rule may be at fault:
[15:31] <sinzui> .yui-t4 .yui-main .yui-b {
[15:31] <sinzui>     width: auto;
[15:31] <sinzui>     margin-right: 24%;
[15:31] <sinzui>     }
[15:31] <sinzui> ^ width should be 77% I think
[15:31] <geser> I hope this displacement of the portlet won't come back then
[15:31] <geser> yes, width to 77% (to let a little space between the main content and the portlet) and margin-right: 0 (or remove it at all)
[15:32] <sinzui> geser: the problem is in style.css, the old CSS, We will remove all the id selectors to make resolve this issue.
[15:39] <geser> does it makes currently sense to file bugs when I see displaced content or should I wait till the old CSS is gone?
[15:46] <ronny> hi
[15:46] <ronny> what page is for configuring remote bugrackers again?
[15:50] <ronny> nm, just stumbled over it
[15:53] <sinzui> geser: I think it is better to report bugs as the pages change. Each developer is depending on the style and code to be correct and consistent.
[16:02] <c_korn> hello
[16:03] <c_korn> I have a question about liblaunchpad (the python lib). launchpad.bugs[1] works but launchpad.bugs[2] gives a key error.
[16:04] <gmb> c_korn: That's because bug 2 doesn't exist. It got deleted (don't know why).
[16:04] <gmb> See :)
[16:06] <c_korn> oh, how embarrassing :)
[16:52] <shakaran> I trying to push a branch, but it shows: $ bzr push lp:~shakaran/tivion/tivion --use-existing-dir
[16:52] <shakaran> bzr: ERROR: Not a branch: "/home/shakaran/sandbox/".
[17:06] <shakaran> some help? I cannot push in my bzr branch
[17:07] <shakaran> I need somethin more? I do this: https://help.launchpad.net/Code/UploadingABranch#pushing-without-registering but it dont working
[17:13] <matsubara> shakaran, you need to `bzr push` inside the branch you're trying to push
[17:14] <shakaran> I just read that I need initialize a new bzr branch on my machine before with `bzr init`
[17:15] <shakaran> the launchpad link dont say anything of these (but it is obvious)
[17:20] <shakaran> well, now the sign hell again: http://paste.ubuntu.com/263896/
[17:38] <soren> shakaran: That's an authentication problem. Do you have your SSH private key on that machine?
[17:39] <shakaran> umn, I put the public key...uff this hell of ssh keys
[17:40] <shakaran> IdentityFile ~/.ssh/your_launchpad_key  this is for private key dont?
[17:40] <soren> shakaran: IdentityFile specifies the private key, yes.
[17:41] <shakaran> usually is called id_rsa?
[17:41] <shakaran> I have this file, is right?
[17:41] <soren> Usually, it's id_rsa (or id_dsa), yes.
[17:42] <soren> I have no way to tell if your id_rsa is the correct one.
[17:42] <junior1> Could someone look at this log and tell me why I am getting this error??
[17:42] <AlexC_> g'morning
[17:43] <AlexC_> where can I go to poke people in the right direction of how to polish up an interface? Recent interface changes are .... I'll leave it at that. You're eye gets taken everywhere due to the mismatch of boldness, fontsize, inconsistent padding, misaligned elements etc. I'd like to make someone aware of them that can fix them
[17:45] <junior1> sorry got disconnected
[17:47] <shakaran> Host bazaar.launchpad.net
[17:47] <shakaran>     IdentityFile ~/.ssh/id_rsa
[17:47] <shakaran>     User shakaran
[17:47] <shakaran> This dont work
[17:47] <AlexC_> 'dont work' is incredibly meaingless
[17:48] <soren> shakaran: As I said: I have no way to tell if your id_rsa is the correct one.
[17:49] <soren> shakaran: I suspect it isn't, since it's not working. Is your machine called otorion?
[17:49] <shakaran> yeah
[17:50] <shakaran> I need create again the dawn ssh key? (It is my second time today)
[17:50] <shakaran> *damn
[17:51] <junior1> This is a excerpt from the session log (the last 10 MiB):
[17:51] <junior1> Checking session consistency (brasero_burn_check_session_consistency burn.c:1905)
[17:51] <junior1> BraseroBurnURI called brasero_job_get_action
[17:51] <junior1> BraseroBurnURI called brasero_job_get_action
[17:51] <junior1> BraseroBurnURI called brasero_job_set_output_size_for_current_track
[17:53] <shakaran> soren: then? I create a new ssh key, upload again to launchpad and then push?
[17:54] <soren> shakaran: It's hardly surprising that if you overwrite your ssh key that you will no longer be able to connect to systems that have your old key on it.
[17:54] <shakaran> yeah, I write a lot of commands today on terminal, maybe someone change something?
[17:55] <shakaran> the launchpad tutorials can be translated?
[17:58] <AlexC_> how long does it take for the 'automatic' importing of translations take through Launchpad?  Is this really a common trend (the slowness)?
[18:03] <mtaylor> so, there doesn't seem to be any way to closing a bug while referring to a new bug that superseeds it?
[18:03] <mtaylor> or supercedes even
[18:05]  * mtaylor smacks self in the face
[18:05] <mtaylor> nevermind
[18:06] <c_korn> hello
[18:06] <c_korn> I am trying this code using liblaunchpad for python: http://pastebin.com/d5e6f2975
[18:06] <c_korn> there is no error but the tag is not added to the bug report
[18:06] <AlexC_> Ursinha: morning, hope you don't mind me poking - just wondered if you could help with a translation question
[18:07] <Ursinha> AlexC_, hi :) how may I help you?
[18:09] <AlexC_> Ursinha: hey, just translations take forever to import for me, pretty much always. I upload them, granted there is a lot, but it is never automatic or quick like it says. I uploaded them at 08:00-09:00, tis now 18:00. I don't expect it to be instant, but this does kinda take the piss
[18:10] <AlexC_> they are set as 'Approved' for ages now, and only 1 is imported
[18:10] <AlexC_> ah, about 12 are now actually. So something is working, very slowly
[18:10] <Ursinha> AlexC_, hmm, let's see
[18:10] <Ursinha> danilos, do you know what's happening here ^?
[18:11] <danilos> Ursinha, AlexC_: we are having some import slowness since yesterday at 18UTC, I don't know the cause yet; I've emailed launchpad-users and ubuntu-translators
[18:12] <AlexC_> danilos: ok, just my luck then :P
[18:12] <AlexC_> thanks, at least I know what is going on
[18:12] <danilos> AlexC_: unfortunately, no luck for anybody else either
[18:13] <danilos> AlexC_: if you do, please let me know since I am still trying to figure it out
[18:13] <AlexC_> yeah, just there is always something that slows me down with translations, yet to have a clear run
[18:13] <AlexC_> danilos: =) good luck hunting it down
[18:14] <matsubara-lunch> c_korn, that's due to bug 254901. there's a workaround in the bug report, IIRC
[18:16] <c_korn> matsubara-lunch: thanks for the info.
[18:18] <c_korn> the workarounf works quite well
[18:18] <c_korn> *workaround
[18:28] <shakaran> soren:  I finally get that it worked! Thanks
[18:34] <soren> shakaran: sure
[18:34] <leonardr> barry, i have a python question
[18:34] <leonardr> i've got a function make_my_class() in lazr.restful.utils, which returns a class object
[18:35] <leonardr> in lazr/restful/bar.py i call make_my_class() and assign it to MyClass
[18:35] <leonardr> the problem i'm having is that MyClass is really defined in lazr.restful.utils, not lazr.restful.bar
[18:35] <leonardr> is there any way to get the class to be created in the correct module?
[18:37] <barry> leonardr: is the problem that it's repr doesn't show the right location?  what's the problem with the way it's created?
[18:38] <leonardr> barry: the problem is that i then run grok on lazr.restful.bar, and it doesn't pick up MyClass because MyClass is 'really' defined in lazr.restful.utils
[18:40] <leonardr> barry: now that i know what the problem is, i'm probably going to try a totally different technique, but i'd still like to hear if you know of a solution
[18:40] <barry> leonardr: that's probably caused by some introspection that grok is doing.  i MyClass.__module__ is writable, so you should be able to pass that into the dict when you create it, or fiddle it afterward.  remember though that __module__ is a string
[18:41] <barry> you might also want to insert the class in the module's namespace if necessary
[18:41] <leonardr> barry: what's the best way to find the 'current' module?
[18:41] <barry> it's all wonky, but it could work :)
[18:42] <barry> leonardr: sys.modules[__name__]
[18:42] <leonardr> ok
[18:43] <leonardr> i think it'll be easier to just define the class itself using grok
[18:45] <barry> nod
[18:59] <mzz> leonardr: most likely you need to set __module__ to the name of the module it should be documented under
[18:59] <mzz> leonardr: I ran into something very similar, lemme pastebin my fugly hack
[18:59] <mzz> leonardr: http://paste.pocoo.org/show/137669/
[19:00] <mzz> so barry's first suggestion, not the second
[19:00] <leonardr> mzz, tx
[19:00] <mzz> oh wait, this isn't #python
[19:01] <mzz> oh well, answer still applies
[19:28] <LordMetroid> Like in Bug-zilla, I am seeing request for how to reproduce a bug a lot, maybe you should add another field besides the description for how to reproduce the bug
[19:54] <Ursinha> LordMetroid, in general we add this information in the bug description
[19:54] <maxb> This is the sort of thing that can go in the description. The description is editable, so it does not have to be added by the initial creator
[19:56] <Ursinha> LordMetroid, for instance this bug: https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/launchpad-code/+bug/403839
[21:27] <LordMetroid> Ursinha, yes but it is not explicitly encouraged and hence people does it only now and then
[21:28] <Ursinha> LordMetroid, not because at least in my opinion this is a per-project choice
[21:29] <LordMetroid> ok, I see
[21:29] <Ursinha> in Ubuntu bugs guide, they propose a template when filing a bug
[21:30] <Ursinha> for instance
[22:14] <kiko> em
[22:14] <kiko> WTF
[22:14] <kiko> https://bugs.launchpad.net/api/beta/nunitv2/+bug/120977
[22:14] <kiko> this OOPSes?
[22:29] <mkanat> gmb: Okay, the gnome-working installation should be operational now.
[22:29] <mkanat> gmb: Let me know if there's still a problem.
[22:30] <gmb> mkanat: Awesome, thanks!
[22:50] <gmb> mkanat: I'm still seeing the "unclosed token" error on gnome-working.
[22:50] <mkanat> gmb: Mmm, are you seeing it on bgo?
[22:51] <gmb> mkanat: I don't think so. I'm just looking over the errors from the latest run now.
[22:51] <mkanat> gmb: Okay. gnome-working is in an inconsistent state.
[22:51] <mkanat> gmb: So I wouldn't worry too much about how it behaves with Unicode data.
[22:53] <gmb> mkanat: Okay. I'll try with a different bug :)
[22:53] <mkanat> gmb: Okay. :-)
[22:55] <gmb> mkanat: Yep, different bug works fine :).
[22:59] <mkanat> gmb: Great. :-)
[23:12] <ledbettj> Hi all, anyone know why I might be seeing a launchpad OOPS when trying to add one (specific) email address to my account, but no issues at all adding other email addresses?
[23:13] <spm> ledbettj: oops number?
[23:14] <ledbettj> spm: OOPS-1341F2700 from https://launchpad.net/~<username>/+editemails
[23:19]  * Ursinha waits for the oops to be synced
[23:21] <spm> Ursinha: it's tehre now
[23:26] <Ursinha> ledbettj, I'm investigating
[23:26] <ledbettj> great, thanks :)
[23:29] <mwhudson> i _guess_ that email is already associated with an Account but not a Person?
[23:31] <Ursinha> mwhudson, where those differ?
[23:31] <wgrant> Argh, not that issue again...
[23:32] <wgrant> The solution to that is login.launchpad.net, isn't it?
[23:32] <mwhudson> Ursinha: hm?  i mean, the email was used with shipit or something, not lp itself
[23:32] <mwhudson> Ursinha: very much a guess though!
[23:32] <Ursinha> mwhudson, hmm
[23:32] <wgrant> Is it EmailAddressAlreadyTaken?
[23:32] <mwhudson> wgrant: no
[23:33] <mwhudson> wgrant: looks like EmailAddress.owner being unexpectedly None
[23:34] <wgrant> mwhudson: That certainly sounds like it's an SSO account, so login.launchpad.net should solve it.
[23:34] <mwhudson> wgrant: please explain to ledbettj exactly what that means :)
[23:35] <Ursinha> mwhudson, what you said makes sense, seeing the code..
[23:35] <wgrant> ledbettj: What if you try to do it at https://login.launchpad.net/+edit-emails
[23:35] <ledbettj> @wgrant: I'll give that a shot
[23:36] <ledbettj> hrm.
[23:36] <ledbettj> 'The email address is registered to another user.'
[23:37] <wgrant> ledbettj: Sounds like you have two accounts, which you need to merge.
[23:40] <ledbettj> @wgrant: that's strange, apparently I do have two accounts. Just did a password reset on it.
[23:40] <ledbettj> thanks for the help!
[23:41] <Ursinha> I've filed a bug for it, just in case
[23:41] <wgrant> Where was the crash? Where it tries to urllib.quote the name?
[23:42] <mwhudson> wgrant: yes
[23:42] <wgrant> That's a difficult bug to fix.
[23:44] <ledbettj> @wgrant, et al: excellent, my accounts have been merged. thanks again.
[23:44] <wgrant> ledbettj: Great.
[23:46] <rickspencer3> hiyas


[02:40] <lotuspsychje> good morning
[02:47] <arraybolt3> Holy smoke the chaos in #ubuntu again.
[02:49] <lotuspsychje> weekend trolls
[02:49] <lotuspsychje> always the same nicks inventing new issues
[05:11] <arraybolt3> leftyfb: I think they probably have some configuration option in the server blocking LAN devices.
[05:11] <arraybolt3> Because if the setup is as simple as they say, having their server be WAN-accessible but not LAN-accessible makes zero sense.
[05:12] <leftyfb> they've been known to come in with ..... uncommon problems
[05:12] <leftyfb> I'm done for the night anyway. Good luck with them
[05:12] <arraybolt3> Thanks, I'll try :P
[23:08] <Jeremy31> oerheks, leftyfb I saw the writable labelled partition on my flash drive after a fresh install of Ubuntu 20.04 and now it is updated after installing 22.10, the date now is from a week ago
[23:09] <leftyfb> uh
[23:09] <Jeremy31> Looks like a small version of /var/logs
[23:09] <leftyfb> you have a flash drive that you installed both ubuntu 20.04 and 22.10?
[23:09] <leftyfb> from*
[23:09] <Jeremy31> A flash drive that I wrote the ISO to, to install to my HDD
[23:10] <oerheks> Jeremy31, that is new to me, what tool did you use?
[23:10] <oerheks> see no mention in https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/kinetic-kudu-release-notes/27976
[23:10] <leftyfb> Jeremy31: if you wrote the iso to (dd?) then how did it keep the writeable partition on it through both installs?
[23:10] <Jeremy31> I used the Mint ISO USB writer
[23:10] <Jeremy31> I could look through the code for that
[23:12] <oerheks> rufus and mkusb can do that, maybe it enables it standard when the usb is 8gb or more?
[23:12] <leftyfb> ok, so this is not an ubuntu usb installer, it's a mint usb installer that happens to utilize ubuntu iso's on the flash drive. So this whole thing has nothing to do with ubuntu other than maybe ubuntu recognizing the removable media has a writeable partition or the mint installer is doing some sketchy stuff and monitoring the ubuntu install
[23:12] <oerheks> https://www.howtogeek.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/05/mkusb_13.png?trim=1,1&bg-color=000&pad=1,1
[23:14] <Jeremy31> It is just the Mint ISO USB writer used, not Mint installer
[23:16] <oerheks> ok
[23:17] <Jeremy31> It looks like it happens with Ubuntu ISO writer, https://askubuntu.com/questions/1442045/how-to-access-writable-partition-on-ubuntu-booted-from-usb-flash-drive
[23:19] <oerheks> I think that statement is false.
[23:24] <oerheks> Kubuntu iso is 4.257.404.928 bytes, 4gb 4,294,967,296 bytes. so there is technically 37562368 left.
[23:31] <Jeremy31> I booted into ubuntu 22.10 and am writing iso to flash, it could be ubiquity making the writable partition during install
[23:48] <Jeremy31> No writable partition after using the Ubuntu System Image tool