[09:49] <NickGarvey> BrentR: looks good.. reboot and cross your fingers..
[09:49] <ThanatosDrive> <--- Just discovered Ctrl+Alt+Bckspce
[09:49] <BrentR> NickGarvey: Oh, that was fast. Here goes nothing
[09:49] <skollie> dudeman: you'running Edgy, right?
[09:49] <NickGarvey> BrentR: I don't believe this will do it though so don't get too optimistic
[09:50] <hypertyper> Hmm... not only are the panels not visible on the second workspace, but my desktop icons are also missing. huh?
[09:50] <atrayo> NickGarvey: You were helping me with a problem sending attachments with Gmail before (I had a long D/C, unrelated, I think). Anyway, you told me to watch the network connection monitor while trying to attach/send, it didn't show megabytes worth of info being uploaded.
[09:50] <BrentR> NickGarvey: **trying to be negative, just in case**
[09:50] <lordhelmet> ack. trying to get 2.6.22 running with wireless. can anybody throw any suggestions at me?
[09:50] <FusE> flannel, its asking MD arrays needde for root filesystem:
[09:50] <Dudeman> skollie: 6.10
[09:51] <BrentR> NickGarvey: Nope, didn't work
[09:51] <NickGarvey> bah
[09:51] <NickGarvey> ok lets see
[09:51] <NickGarvey> grub IS loading? you are getting the menu?
[09:51] <Dudeman> skollie: edgy i believe. i used a dvd to install which i bought a few months back. it does not say which distro other than 6.10 which is edgy i think
[09:51] <Nergar> how do i configure wlan0 with ifconfig?
[09:51] <skollie> dudeman: yah, that's Edgy. You may need a different version of the driver or update your kernel headers
[09:51] <BrentR> NickGarvey: Yes, I still get the menu. But nothing works. It also still has an old Ubuntu on the menu, but neither one works
[09:52] <lordhelmet> the kernel compiles just fine, but there is nothing wireless works
[09:52] <BrentR> NickGarvey: I guess I didn't delete the menu item?
[09:52] <FusE> skollie: Can you help me? Upgrading to Feisty wants to configure mdadm. What should I put for MD arrays needed for the root filesystem?
[09:52] <Dudeman> skollie: how do i update them?
[09:52] <bullgard4> My computer contains 40 files with 'hwmon' in its name but a kernel module 'hwmon' is not loaded. Can one explain to me the concept of 'hwmon'?
[09:52] <NickGarvey> BrentR: error 22?
[09:52] <BrentR> NickGarvey: Yep
[09:52] <NickGarvey> BrentR: what is the exact error message?
[09:52] <bullgard4> /usr/src/linux-source-source-2.6.20/Documentation/kobject.txt writes: "The kobject infrastructure performs basic object management that larger data  structures and subsystems can leverage, rather than reimplement similar functionality." For what stands 'k' in 'kobject'?
[09:52] <BrentR> NickGarvey: "Error 22: No such partition              Press any key to continue"
[09:52] <dude_> how do you create a temp directory ubuntu 5.10
[09:52] <Dudeman> skollie: i have an idea man. i will be right back
[09:53] <NickGarvey> interesting
[09:53] <hypertyper> Nergar: have you tried looking at the help available for networking? i'm not being deliberately obtuse, i'm a newbie too, but it might be a good place to start. check out http://help.ubuntu.com
[09:53] <seth1248> How can I type Spanish accent marks? I have Spanish keyboard setup in gnome and I can type the , but I am unable to type accent marks.
[09:53] <BrentR> NickGarvey: Yeah, this is the headache I've been dealing with for two days now
[09:53] <diamondcutter> Hi, my window border buttons (maximize, minimize, etc..) disappear and the window border becomes all white whenever I maximize any window. Using Feisty Fawn with Desktop Effects enabled and looking to get my border buttons back. (Have tried multiple themes as well)
[09:53] <Nergar> hypertyper, looking
[09:53] <dude_> how do you change to the temp dir that was created
[09:53] <skollie> Fuse: don't really know what that means. Were you upgrading from Edgy?
[09:53] <ThanatosDrive> Is it possible to add things into 'Keyboard Shortcuts'?
[09:54] <FusE> yes
[09:54] <espen77> are there a easy way to copy the boot image part of a bootable cd to a file?
[09:54] <NickGarvey> and the windows error message?
[09:54] <dude_> sorrry im a noobie
[09:54] <skollie> fuse: does it give you a default?
[09:54] <hypertyper> diamondcutter: do they disappear, or become invisible? ie, if you click where the buttons ought to be, does it perform the requested function?
[09:54] <Flannel> FusE: I don't have any idea.  You've got a RAID?  Where's your root?
[09:54] <FusE> Flannel sec
[09:54] <dude_> hello
[09:54] <BrentR> NickGarvey: Windows has "Starting up ...       NTLDR is missing             Press Ctrl+Alt+Del to restart"
[09:54] <monkievox> howdy all!  I am trying to install ubuntu OVER xp ... that's right, i don't want dual boot or anything ... i want to replace my xp install with ubuntu ... however, i can't get the machine to boot from CD ... even though i mess with the bios and have tried to mess up the partitions on which xp is installed by booting from xp install disk and attempting to format the parts, it still boots to xp!!!  how the hell do i nuke xp off the d
[09:55] <FusE> Flannel, http://img222.imageshack.us/img222/1972/screenshotcc4.png
[09:55] <diamondcutter> hypertyper, If i click where they were, they work, but the button is never visible
[09:55] <dude_> can some one help me plaease
[09:55] <Flannel> monkievox: You'll want to change the BIOS to boot off the CD, does that not work?
[09:55] <FusE> Im not sure >.<
[09:55] <skollie> monkievox: are you selecting to boot from the CD?
[09:55] <bullgard4> Nergar: First step: read man ifconfig.
[09:56] <hypertyper> BrentR: you might look into "Super Grub Disk" - sorry, i don't have a URL, but it comes up well in google. That solved my problems earlier this evening (morning?) when i installed XP *after* installing ubuntu on a separate disk, and grub went away.
[09:56] <Flannel> FusE: Did you install with LVM? or RAID? or what?
[09:56] <monkievox> flannel: thanks, no i've done that and it doesn't do any good.  the mobo is asus p4c800
[09:56] <monkievox> if that helps any
[09:56] <BrentR> Actually, I already have that, but not even that will load up my Ubuntu. It does let me boot WIndows though. But I don't need it for WIndows. Thanks anyways though
[09:56] <NickGarvey> BrentR: no such partition.. hmm, perhaps the root line is failing..
[09:56] <Nergar> bullgard4, i did, can't understand it very well
[09:56] <FusE> Honestly Flannel, I have no idea what LVM or RAID even is
[09:56] <Flannel> FusE: just use 'all', it'll cover any of them that need to be done, and I don't think it'll hurt anything.
[09:56] <hypertyper> diamondcutter: that sounds like an issue with your theme manager. of course, take my advice with a grain of salt, as i'm not exactly experienced, but i would check either themes or window management
[09:56] <NickGarvey> BrentR: wait, so selecting windows DOES work?
[09:56] <dude_> can someone help me?????
[09:56] <NickGarvey> BrentR: from grub?
[09:57] <Flannel> !ask | dude_
[09:57] <ubotu> dude_: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[09:57] <hypertyper> diamondcutter: i experienced something similar when i was trying out sabayon
[09:57] <BrentR> NickGarvey:No, not from Grub, from the Super Boot Disk
[09:57] <skollie> what with dude_?
[09:57] <FusE> All I know Flannel is I installed Linux on a partition on my second hard drive
[09:57] <NickGarvey> damn
[09:57] <monkievox> flannel: i even told it to boot from floppy and put an old freebsd floppy in there and it STILL booted off drive (sata ide)
[09:57] <atrayo> monkievox: did you burn the CD as an ISO image?
[09:57] <BrentR> NickGarvey: Sorry, Super Grub Disk
[09:57] <NickGarvey> BrentR: that would have narrowed it down so much
[09:57] <dude_> i just need t know how to make a temp directory for mplayer
[09:57] <NickGarvey> BrentR: I am afraid, grub can't find itself
[09:57] <monkievox> atrayo: yes, using uh ... infra recorder?
[09:57] <NickGarvey> but how can it find menu.lst is what I am wondering
[09:57] <monkievox> atrayo: is good, no?
[09:57] <ThanatosDrive> Is it possible to add things into 'Keyboard Shortcuts'?
[09:57] <bullgard4> Nergar: yes, this is quite normal. So you better cite the place you did not understand in 'man ifconfig' so that one can help you more specifically.
[09:57] <BrentR> NickGarvey:Yeah, there is a special menu item in the Super disk that lets you boot an OS directly. Still doesn't work for Ubuntu though
[09:57] <Flannel> monkievox: Uh, there's some new ... actually, here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromWindows  Try that.
[09:58] <skollie> dude_: have you tried mkdir
[09:58] <Ramzi> Hi.  Linux is open-source, yes?
[09:58] <dude_> i know its basic but im lost
[09:58] <Flannel> Ramzi: yes
[09:58] <jatt> yes
[09:58] <atrayo> monkievox: Oh sorry, all I know is that it has to be burned as an ISO image (it took me a bit to figure that out from Nero)
[09:58] <jatt> indeed
[09:58] <Ramzi> Where can I see said source?
[09:58] <jatt> you just said it
[09:58] <monkievox> atrayo: ah, thanks tho ;)
[09:58] <hypertyper> BrentR and NickGarvey: i had wonderful results with "Super Grub Disk" earlier... it auto-magically (well, mostly) fixed my boot issues (triple-booting XP-Pro-64, XP-Home, and ubuntu 7.04)
[09:58] <tarzeau> Ramzi: it's free software
[09:58] <dude_> yes but i dont know how to change to that directory to continue install
[09:59] <tarzeau> Ramzi: www.kernel.org has it
[09:59] <diamondcutter> hypertyper, when you mean check, what could I try? I know they're both up to date and I'm only using the Feisty installed themes and such apps.
[09:59] <NickGarvey> hypertyper: we are booting off an external hd though
[09:59] <Flannel> Ramzi: for what?  kernel.org has the kernel source.  If oyu want specific Ubuntu sources, that's doable too.  But what exacty are you looking for?
[09:59] <skollie> dude_: cd /nameofdir
[09:59] <BrentR> hypertyper: I've used it, but it's not helping me to get this to work. What exactly did you do? And yeah, it's from an external drive
[09:59] <slackorama> dude_: type 'cd nameofdir'
[09:59] <NickGarvey> BrentR: does memtest work?
[09:59] <Ramzi> Flannel: I imagined that say, if I found a glitch, I could just open up something and tweak it.
[09:59] <FusE> Flannel, ... :(
[09:59] <monkievox> flannel: interesting ink ... ok, grub it is
[09:59] <FusE> http://img479.imageshack.us/img479/9959/screenshotxt2.png
[09:59] <hypertyper> diamondcutter: uhm, i meant "try checking the settings" when i said "try". again, i am a clueless newbie myself, so i may or may not be helpful at all ;)
[09:59] <Ramzi> But what it looks like is I need to download the source independently, and compile it, and that doesn't seem pleasant.
[10:00] <diamondcutter> Ah.
[10:00] <BrentR> NickGarvey: Nope, same error 22
[10:00] <NickGarvey> BrentR: aaargh
[10:00] <NickGarvey> BrentR: ok so I know it isn't the root= line
[10:00] <Flannel> Ramzi: You'll want to install the source from the repositories, which will be source packages.  Which you then can tweak, and then compile into debs, which you can then install through package management
[10:00] <Nergar> bullgard4, now i get it. I was trying to use ifconfig to configure a wireless network, i need iwconfig instead :P
[10:00] <BrentR> NickGarvey: Yeah, that's putting it nicely
[10:00] <NickGarvey> because memtest+ doesn't have one..
[10:00] <FusE> Flannel, http://img479.imageshack.us/img479/9959/screenshotxt2.png
[10:00] <dude_> thanx skollie
[10:00] <NickGarvey> BrentR: guess it is the root(hd1,1) line
[10:01] <NickGarvey> BrentR: but.. we know that is the root
[10:01] <hypertyper> BrentR: wait a sec... you're just trying to get Windows to load again? i mean, does linux load, but windows doesn't?
[10:01] <Flannel> FusE: I told you.  Use all
[10:01] <skollie> np dude_
[10:01] <dude_> thank you so much!!!
[10:01] <FusE> crap flannel
[10:01] <Nergar> bullgard4, thats why i couldn't find the answers i was looking for
[10:01] <FusE> wrong ss
[10:01] <CVirus> Where is /etc/inittab in ubuntu ?
[10:01] <FusE> I did
[10:01] <bullgard4> Nergar: Ok. Good luck now!
[10:01] <FusE> Flannel: http://img512.imageshack.us/img512/2638/screenshot1gu7.png
[10:01] <Nergar> tnx
[10:01] <Ramzi> So, like, all the games that come prepackaged in Ubuntu... That's the binaries. I have to hunt for the source on my own, yes?
[10:01] <NickGarvey> BrentR: ok, at this point, I would just give up and make a small /boot partition on the internal hd
[10:01] <Flannel> Ramzi: no, they have the source in the repoisotires too
[10:01] <BrentR> NickGarvey: No, neither of them load from Grub. And now, neither will load from the Super Grub disk
[10:02] <NickGarvey> BrentR: would that be alright?  I mean time wise etc etc
[10:02] <hypertyper> BrentR: if that's the case, you might try booting from your windows install media, and using FIXMBR from the repair console (Press "R" when it asks you whether to repair or install)
[10:02] <Flannel> FusE: well, that might be caused because you're using dapper kernels
[10:02] <Ramzi> What are the respositories?
[10:02] <Flannel> !repositories | Ramzi
[10:02] <ubotu> Ramzi: The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[10:02] <NickGarvey> BrentR: sorry, but I'm flat out of ideas
[10:02] <Ramzi> Okay. Thank you.
[10:02] <FusE> well I tried booting to Edgy but I got the "Kernel panic" error
[10:02] <Flannel> Ramzi: the stuff that you can install stuff from, using package management
[10:02] <BrentR> NickGarvey: Well, I don't have much space, and I do stuff professionally on my laptop, so I can't just wipe much of it out
[10:02] <hypertyper> i'm a linux newbie, but i'm a windows tech ;)
[10:02] <BrentR> NickGarvey: It's ok
[10:02] <NickGarvey> BrentR: small as in, 50MB
[10:02] <Ramzi> Bye bye.
[10:02] <skollie> fuse: have never come across what I see in your screenshot
[10:02] <NickGarvey> BrentR: 27M     /boot/
[10:03] <Flannel> Ramzi: You can download binaries, or if you feel like it, source packages, which you then compile (with or without tweaking) into debs, which you then install (package management is wonderful).
[10:03] <Dudeman> skollie: im back
[10:03] <NickGarvey> BrentR: just be sure to delete old kernels when you upgrade
[10:03] <skollie> dudeman...
[10:03] <tjmc> whats the best alternative to firefox in linux?
[10:03] <BrentR> hypertyper: I have already did fixmbr. I'm running Grub from an external drive
[10:03] <NickGarvey> BrentR: that sound good?
[10:03] <Dudeman> skollie: well i just updated my system and i thought i would try after the reboot. same thing
[10:03] <bullgard4> tjmc: Epiphany
[10:04] <hypertyper> has anyone ever experienced a vanishing desktop and panels on the second workspace? when i switch over, all i have is the desktop image; no icons, no panels...
[10:04] <NickGarvey> BrentR: and - a reinstall of ubuntu is ok or not ok?
[10:04] <Dudeman> skollie: how do i update the headers
[10:04] <dude__>  do you extract files into a temp dir
[10:04] <BrentR> NickGarvey: Yeah, I might have to do that. I just have to say, that this is the kind of stuff that really just frustrates me. I'm great with windows and mac, but can't get this going
[10:04] <h1st0> hypertyper: are you using beryl or compiz or somethign?
[10:04] <CVirus> Where is /etc/inittab in ubuntu ?
[10:04] <skollie> dudeman: should have done it with the system update
[10:04] <NickGarvey> BrentR: using the installer is easier, but you will get a reinstall, where as I can do it from the command line, but it won't be as easy
[10:04] <Hellevator> I have a second hard drive mounted on my computer but I am unable to write to it unless I am root.  How can I change that so my user can write to it?
[10:04] <Dudeman> skollie: thats what i thought...
[10:04] <NickGarvey> BrentR: but I can do it don't worry :)
[10:04] <h1st0> CVirus: what are you trying to do?
[10:04] <NickGarvey> BrentR: eh, well you don't see people running windows from an external hard drive :)
[10:04] <BrentR> NickGarvey: I just want to get more into LInux audio, but can't
[10:04] <hypertyper> h1st0: ubuntu 7.04 desktop, default install (other than updates and installing WoW with a howto)
[10:04] <dude__> skollie?
[10:05] <CVirus> h1st0: 2:23:respawn:/usr/sbin/faxgetty ttyS0
[10:05] <skollie> dudeman: but if you look at the errors, it cannot find the files/drivers to install or the dirs in which they must go
[10:05] <Dudeman> skollie: says i am up to date
[10:05] <skollie> yes dude_?
[10:05] <FusE> Flannel, I removed Edgy from my grub menu because I got kernel panic, how do I get it back so I can see if I can goot to it
[10:05] <BrentR> NickGarvey: I know. But most people can't afford to TOTALLY switch yet. So that leaves linux out for some, I'm afraid.
[10:05] <ThanatosDrive> Is BitTorrent built-in to Ubuntu?
[10:05] <Dudeman> skollie: hmmm
[10:05] <hypertyper> BrentR:  sorry, i should have just shushed... i don't have enough information to help you out, and i just confused the situation by interrupting NickGarvey
[10:05] <dude__> i mad the dir and switched over to it, but how do i extract my files into that dir
[10:05] <NickGarvey> BrentR: yeah
[10:05] <NickGarvey> hypertyper: no problem at all
[10:05] <BrentR> NickGarvey: hypertyper: it's cool, you're just trying to help.
[10:05] <h1st0> hypertyper: hrm... thats wierd video driver issue maybe?
[10:05] <h1st0> CVirus: ?
[10:05] <Dudeman> skollie: im about to die lol im so frustrated
[10:06] <BrentR> whoops
[10:06] <skollie> dudeman: go back to where you found the driver and try an earlier version if there is one. Also read the text that is available for the drivers
[10:06] <NickGarvey> wow I have been looping the same song for the past two hours and didn't notice
[10:06] <NickGarvey> time for a change I think
[10:06] <FusE> I removed Edgy from my grub menu because I got kernel panic, how do I get it back so I can see if I can goot to it
[10:06] <CVirus> h1st0: http://www.hylafax.org/content/Handbook:Basic_Server_Configuration:Starting_Inbound_Service
[10:06] <Flannel> FusE: sudo update-grub
[10:06] <ThanatosDrive> Can anyone see what I type?
[10:06] <skollie> dude_: you can extract the files wherever you want
[10:06] <atrayo> ThanatosDrive: Yes Bit Torrent is in my system
[10:07] <BrentR> NickGarvey: I'm just wondering, HOW has anyone gotten this safe configuration working? I've read a couple places where people said they were running this way. SUrely it's got to be possible, no?
[10:07] <hypertyper> h1st0: now that you mention it, the "restricted driver" icon is no longer visible... i had to install it to enable desktop effects, but then i took them off after i decided that the desktop effects available weren't quite enough eye-candy, compared to sabayon. think the disabling of desktop effects could have done something?
[10:07] <dude__> sorry im knew to this scen
[10:07] <Dudeman> skollie: ok heres some info i learned while googling. another ubuntu site/thing i read about was that i could use the windows 2000 driver. it says it would work. thing is... its an exe file
[10:07] <dude__> is there a certain command
[10:07] <NickGarvey> BrentR: I believe I did so at a friends house actually
[10:07] <FusE> Flannel it found 2.6.17
[10:07] <dude__> is it in archive manager?
[10:07] <FusE> Isnt that Feisty?
[10:07] <FusE> Should Itry booting to that?
[10:07] <akio> how do i add an open in console context menu item?
[10:07] <Flannel> FusE: 2.6.17 is edgy, 2.6.20 is feisty
[10:07] <Dudeman> also, ubuntu should already be able to work with my adapter... i just dont understand
[10:07] <skollie> dudeman: then you probably also have to run ndiswrapper
[10:07] <NickGarvey> BrentR: but there is a good chance I just made a /boot partition
[10:07] <h1st0> CVirus: doesn't use init system they updated to something else
[10:07] <FusE> ah k
[10:07] <Flannel> akio: install nautilus-open-terminal
[10:07] <FusE> ill boot to 17
[10:07] <NickGarvey> BrentR: I remembre things not going totally smoothly
[10:07] <Dudeman> will the ndiswrapper allow me to use exe files?
[10:07] <Dudeman> or what does it do
[10:08] <BrentR> NickGarvey: Is it possible that my partitions just aren't set up right?
[10:08] <NickGarvey> BrentR: it didn't look like it
[10:08] <jonathan_> hello
[10:08] <atrayo> ThanatosDrive: Go into System>Preferences>Main Menu and add it to the Internet folder
[10:08] <nahema> dudeman: try wine
[10:08] <jonathan_> I got a problem with apt-get
[10:08] <NickGarvey> BrentR: (they looked right)
[10:08] <jonathan_> it broken
[10:08] <skollie> dudeman: not the exe, but the .inf will be used to install the driver
[10:08] <h1st0> CVirus: http://blog.mypapit.net/2007/03/where-can-i-find-inittab-in-ubuntu-edgy-eft-or-feisty-fawn.html
[10:08] <Dudeman> skollie: ahh i will give this a try
[10:08] <h1st0> CVirus: there ya go.  check that out they are using upstart now
[10:08] <jonathan_> anybody can help me?
[10:08] <hypertyper> jonathan_: how is it broken?
[10:08] <BrentR> NickGarvey: Maybe I didn't set a boot flag or something?
[10:08] <akio> Flannel: Thanks...
[10:08] <NickGarvey> doesn't matter in linux
[10:09] <jonathan_> terminal said:  apt-get install
[10:09] <jonathan_> E: Type 'deb' is not known on line 44 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list
[10:09] <jonathan_> E: The list of sources could not be read.
[10:09] <Dudeman> nahema: im dealing with drivers. wine would not allow the driver to be installed in the right place to get my adapter to work with linux
[10:09] <NickGarvey> jonathan_: drop the "
[10:09] <hypertyper> jonathan_: it's easier to help if we have a good description of the issue :)
[10:09] <skollie> dudeman: make sure you read and follow ALL the instructions
[10:09] <Dudeman> skollie: will do. i will be right back to get this program and try this out
[10:09] <NickGarvey> jonathan_: your /etc/apt/sources.list file has an error on line 44
[10:09] <jonathan_> now I can't update anything
[10:09] <nahema> dudeman: i see that now but four exe programs try wine :)
[10:09] <NickGarvey> jonathan_: open vi, and type the following EXACTLY
[10:09] <jonathan_> yes
[10:09] <skollie> dudeman: btw - I managed to install the drivers you need with no problem, but then I run Feisty
[10:09] <NickGarvey> 44Gx:x
[10:09] <atrayo> Does anybody else here have any problems with attachments in Gmail?
[10:10] <jonathan_> nope, can't either
[10:10] <linuxor> Hi, I've tried to install f-prot for linux but I didn't success, after that, when I try to install any other software, it'll do but at the end I got a message telling me if I want to install f-prot. Please how to do ?
[10:10] <hypertyper> NickGarvey: you seem to have an answer for everything ;)
[10:10] <Dudeman> skollie: you installed the very same drivers i showed you?
[10:10] <fatbrain> Hello, I manage to remove my gconf folders, so now when I login my "start-menu-bar" erm, looks super-fubar, is there anyway to recover my lost gnome settings?
[10:10] <NickGarvey> hypertyper: answer? yes, do they all work? apparently not ;)
[10:10] <skollie> dudeman: yes - not that I need it
[10:11] <jonathan_> synaptic also
[10:11] <Dudeman> skollie: yes i know lol but if i updated to 7.04 you think it would work?
[10:11] <dude__> how do extract files into dir of said choise
[10:11] <skollie> dudeman: either that or use an earlier version of the driver
[10:11] <jonathan_> E: Type 'deb' is not known on line 44 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list
[10:11] <jonathan_> E: The list of sources could not be read.
[10:11] <jonathan_> Go to the repository dialog to correct the problem.
[10:11] <jonathan_> E: _cache->open() failed, please report.
[10:11] <slackorama> dude__: what type of files?
[10:11] <Dudeman> skollie: alright well im just assuming if i updated that it would do the same for me that it did for you
[10:11] <dude__> mplayer
[10:11] <dude__> tar
[10:11] <NickGarvey> jonathan_: read what I said?
[10:11] <levander> jonathan_: paste you sources.list to a pastebin
[10:11] <dude__> tar.gz
[10:12] <Dudeman> skollie: your system is 7.04?
[10:12] <skollie> dudeman: let's hope, but do an upgrade to 7.10 with adept
[10:12] <NickGarvey> levander: he has an error on line 44, he didn't drop the " when someone told him to add a line
[10:12] <slackorama> dude__: tar -xzvf nameoffile.tar.gz
[10:12] <jonathan_> what source?
[10:12] <NickGarvey> levander: "deb whatever"
[10:12] <NickGarvey> levander: instead of just plain deb whatever
[10:12] <Dudeman> skollie: how do i do that? sorry im a lil new to ubuntu
[10:13] <atrayo> NickGarvey: Sorry about the delay, I lost my internet connection for a while - anyway, I checked the Network Connection while I was trying to attach, like you said, and it didn't show it uploading 4 mb worth of info in packets sent (it showed Trasmitting/Recieving but it does that all the time anyway)
[10:13] <NickGarvey> atrayo: do you have noscript or anything?
[10:13] <hypertyper> h1st0: can you give me a shove in the right direction for checking into the "weird driver issue" you think i might be experiencing? i just want my desktop back on workspace 2... *sob*
[10:13] <atrayo> No, not that I'm aware of (sorry new here)
[10:13] <Dudeman> skollie: is there a command?
[10:14] <NickGarvey> atrayo: disable extensions you are unsure of
[10:14] <skollie> Dudeman: in the System Menu, find Adept Package Manager, first tell it to 'fetch updates' and then do a 'full upgrade'. Will take a while
[10:14] <h1st0> hypertyper: what type of video card do you have?
[10:14] <Dudeman> skollie: alright
[10:14] <BrentR> NickGarvey: Just a quick thought. My boot flag is on a partition that I am not using for Ubuntu. Could that be the problem?
[10:14] <FusE> Flannel, skollie, now Im back to square one, booted on Edgy and Im recieving network problems. I cant connect to anything, and my DHCP server is apparently not assigning me a  IP address
[10:14] <hypertyper> h1st0: nvidia 6600 pci ex
[10:14] <twager> I have just upgraded Gutsy but when I rebooted I got 2 beeps and the system reboots ad infinitum...Any Ideas ?
[10:14] <NickGarvey> BrentR: no, boot flags are ignored, you can switch it if you want though
[10:14] <BrentR> NickGarvey: I'm looking at it inside GParted
[10:15] <NickGarvey> BrentR: I could be wrong
[10:15] <skollie> Fuse: with the wireless device again?
[10:15] <FusE> yes
[10:15] <NickGarvey> twager: hardware problem, not a software problem
[10:15] <skollie> fuse: do the security thing again and see if that works
[10:15] <NickGarvey> twager: are you getting to the bios?
[10:15] <BrentR> NickGarvey: So it doesn't matter then? I don't even remember putting it there, and actually at one point I took that OFF of all partitions
[10:15] <hypertyper> h1st0: when i enabled desktop effects (menu: system, preferences), it went out and got a driver all on its own, after asking permission
[10:15] <FusE> turn off security?
[10:15] <Dudeman> skollie: synaptic? i dont see adept
[10:15] <NickGarvey> BrentR: it shouldn't matter, I never bother with them, I think DOS needed them
[10:15] <skollie> fuse: yes
[10:15] <FusE> k
[10:15] <h1st0> hypertyper: ahh.
[10:15] <twager> No because I am running this in Sidux from the same drive
[10:15] <nahema> fuse: did you try do install your drivers whit ndiswrapper?
[10:16] <NickGarvey> BrentR: needless to say, OS's have evolved a bit past DOS :)
[10:16] <skollie> dudeman: are you using gnome?
[10:16] <h1st0> hypertyper: well disable desktop effects and see if you still experience the problem.  Bet thats what it is.
[10:16] <BrentR> NickGarvey: Ok, gotcha. So how do I get rid of Grub on this hard drive then?
[10:16] <dude__> slackorama
[10:16] <Dudeman> skollie: yes
[10:16] <NickGarvey> BrentR: oh um
[10:16] <FusE> nahema, no I upgraded to edgy
[10:16] <dude__> that didnt seem to work
[10:16] <ThanatosDrive> atrayo: Thanks!
[10:16] <hypertyper> h1st0: however, i have since disabled desktop effects
[10:16] <NickGarvey> BrentR: do you.. really need to?
[10:16] <dude__> i created a dir named test
[10:16] <sx66> how do you slim down kde simliar to xfce?
[10:16] <atrayo> ThanatosDrive: Sweet! I've helped my first person with Ubuntu :)
[10:16] <CVirus> h1st0: thanks
[10:16] <NickGarvey> BrentR: because if you want to just wipe the mbr.. that means I need to figure out how many bytes it is and etc
[10:16] <BrentR> NickGarvey: Well, if I ever happen to do a restart while doing music(most of the use of this drive is for audio)
[10:16] <skollie> dudeman: I use KDE and mine is under Menu, System. Yours might be under Admin or something.
[10:17] <ThanatosDrive> =D
[10:17] <slackorama> dude__: what happened?
[10:17] <NickGarvey> BrentR: but I mean you would never boot from the external drive anyway
[10:17] <NickGarvey> BrentR: just use it for data
[10:17] <h1st0> CVirus: np
[10:17] <_Codeman_> What kind of joystick support does (K)ubuntu have?
[10:17] <h1st0> hypertyper: hrm...  Thats wierd.   What type of video card do you have?
[10:17] <NickGarvey> _Codeman_: try the live cd
[10:17] <h1st0> hypertyper: lspci | grep VGA
[10:17] <nahema> fuse: i have 7.10 and it work whit ndiswrapper you will find it whit synaptic pakage manager after that select the .inf file
[10:17] <BrentR> NickGarvey: I don't HAVE to have it plugged in, I can just unplug it, but sometimes when beta testing stuff I restart. I think I deleted it before when I deleted the two partitions and resized the one I use for audio
[10:17] <dude__> i created a dir named test and went into that dir and typed as you said with the mplayer file name and it gave me a bash erro and child2 something
[10:18] <twager> NickGarvey: Not getting to the bios...Just reboots
[10:18] <NickGarvey> BrentR: remove the external drive from your boot order, that is all you need
[10:18] <_Codeman_> NickGarvey: Why?
[10:18] <Dudeman> skollie: hmmm still no adept... synaptic package manager is the only thing i can find
[10:18] <BrentR> NickGarvey: Although it probably didn't delete it. Oh, wait. I can just .......yep, you beat me to it!
[10:18] <NickGarvey> twager: yes, it is a hardware error
[10:18] <hypertyper> h1st0: OMG! you were right. i checked the effects, and they were still turned on... just none of the eye-candy was on. disabling desktop effects (for really reals this time) fixed me right up
[10:18] <NickGarvey> twager: check the "beep codes" for your mother board
[10:18] <dude__>  tar -xzvf mplayer-1.Orc1.tar.gz
[10:18] <dude__> tar: mplayer-1.Orc1.tar.gz: Cannot open: No such file or directory
[10:18] <dude__> tar: Error is not recoverable: exiting now
[10:18] <dude__> tar: Child returned status 2
[10:18] <dude__> tar: Error exit delayed from previous errors
[10:18] <dude__> dude@66-233-149-221:~$ cd test
[10:18] <NickGarvey> _Codeman_: so.. rather than asking a bunch of people who don't know.. you can just try it?
[10:18] <dude__> dude@66-233-149-221:~/test$ test -xzvf mplayer-1.Orc1.tar.gz
[10:18] <h1st0> hypertyper: okay so its a driver issue then.
[10:18] <dude__> bash: test: -xzvf: unary operator expected
[10:18] <NickGarvey> !pastebin | dude_
[10:18] <dude__> dude@66-233-149-221:~/test$ -xzvf mplayer-1.Orc1.tar.gz
[10:18] <ubotu> dude_: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[10:18] <dude__> bash: -xzvf: command not found
[10:18] <dude__> dude@66-233-149-221:~/test$
[10:18] <BrentR> NickGarvey: It's too bad I can't install just a general distro on my laptop drive and run programs from the external one, to save space
[10:19] <h1st0> !paste | dude__
[10:19] <ubotu> dude__: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[10:19] <BrentR> NickGarvey: I do that with audio stuff all the time, but not OS stuff
[10:19] <dude__> sorry
[10:19] <waylandbill> dude_:  tar zxvf mplayer...
[10:19] <h1st0> hypertyper: you probably just need more updated drivers for your card.
[10:19] <_Codeman_> NickGarvey: I have Kubuntu installed, just donno what joysticks are supported and what packages (if any) are neede
[10:19] <skollie> dudeman: at the command line, do 'sudo apt-get install adept'
[10:19] <_Codeman_> d
[10:19] <hypertyper> h1st0: the result of the command you asked for:  05:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NV43 [GeForce 6600 PCIe]  (rev a2)
[10:19] <Dudeman> skollie: k uno momento
[10:19] <twager> NickGarvey: I have and it tells me 2 beeps is a power problem but Sidux is working from hda2
[10:19] <h1st0> hypertyper: it may just be a bug in desktop effects also.
[10:19] <skollie> dude_: try doing tar -xavf and the rest of it
[10:19] <h1st0> hypertyper: what was the problem you where having exactly?
[10:20] <slackorama> dude__: is the mplayer tar.gz file in your test directory?
[10:20] <CVirus> h1st0: there's tty* only ... no ttyS* !
[10:20] <NickGarvey> twager: "power problem"?
[10:20] <skollie> dude_: sorry - xzvf
[10:20] <dude__> i think
[10:20] <hypertyper> h1st0: yeah, i'm gonna chalk it up to some weird bug thing in an app i'm not going to be using, and call it good.
[10:20] <dude__> not sure
[10:20] <h1st0> CVirus: I don't know much about  that stuff
[10:20] <fatbrain> How do I restore gnome settings? (I removed my .gconfX .gnomeX folders and now it's all fubar)
[10:20] <h1st0> hypertyper: k.
[10:20] <dude__> this is kind of alien to me
[10:20] <BrentR> NickGarvey: So before I go, any other ideas about how to put Grub on the main drive without any errors, just able to start WIndows from the menu? Cause Ubuntu worked that way, and so did Windows, whenever I had the drive plugged in. Can I not make it load?
[10:20] <dude__> lol
[10:20] <slackorama> dude__: go into your test directory and type 'ls'
[10:20] <CVirus> h1st0: okay .. thanks again
[10:20] <FusE> errr now my screen is frozen and I can move my mouse, but nothing is happening
[10:20] <FusE> Skollie?
[10:21] <skollie> yes FusE ?
[10:21] <FusE> errr now my screen is frozen and I can move my mouse, but nothing is happening
[10:21] <waylandbill> dude__: the first error suggests you didn't even have that tarball in the same directory
[10:21] <hypertyper> h1st0: on the other hand... do you know of a way to remove the panels on the second workspace *intentionally*, so i can play wow without the panels covering up part of the screen?
[10:21] <dude__> k
[10:21] <NickGarvey> BrentR: to do that, I would suggest making a small 100MB partition, install /boot to that, and / to /deb/sdb2
[10:21] <NickGarvey> BrentR: installer will handle the grub based details if you do that
[10:21] <BrentR> NickGarvey: Hmmmmm, wait a minute. Can I put a very small linux distro on my main drive, and use that for Grub? And then will Grub recognize other distros on the external drive?
[10:21] <dude__> i typed ls
[10:22] <h1st0> hypertyper: well now that desktop effects is disabled they panels won't be there when you play wow
[10:22] <h1st0> hypertyper: another bug from that package
[10:22] <Dudeman> skollie: ok i installed it. its not showing up on my menu though
[10:22] <hypertyper> oh, duh... lemme try that
[10:22] <NickGarvey> BrentR: I suppose, but that will just end up doing the exact same thing as I suggested, but waste space with an extra linux distro you aren't going to use
[10:22] <_Codeman_> BrentR: Doesn't grub get installed to your MBR?
[10:22] <BrentR> NickGarvey: Cause I can do that if that will work. Something like SLax or something?
[10:22] <slackorama> dude__: was the mplayer file name output?
[10:22] <iambob> can i use a mp3 player to boot something to install it someone please help me
[10:22] <bullgard4> /usr/src/linux-source-source-2.6.20/Documentation/kobject.txt writes: "The kobject infrastructure performs basic object management that larger data  structures and subsystems can leverage, rather than reimplement similar functionality." For what stands 'k' in 'kobject'?
[10:22] <FusE> k skollie, with no key, I can connect to the internet
[10:22] <dude__> it just went blank
[10:22] <Dudeman> skollie: eh i think i need kde for this. brb
[10:22] <BrentR> NickGarvey: Ok, how do I just install /boot to that small partition?
[10:22] <dude__> test is blank
[10:23] <skollie> dudeman: must be somewhere - check under syste, admin, accessories etc
[10:23] <slackorama> dude__: then the file sin't in test
[10:23] <bullgard4> My computer contains 40 files with 'hwmon' in its name but a kernel module 'hwmon' is not loaded. Can one explain to me the concept of 'hwmon'?
[10:23] <BrentR> NickGarvey: I wouldn't mind having a small distro on the partition, but just for basic testing and learning so it won't take much space
[10:23] <NickGarvey> BrentR: I would suggest using gparted to make a 100MB ext2 partition, and then when installing, select "manual" for partitioning, and do the rest from there
[10:23] <skollie> Fuse: same problem as before. Try a new key
[10:23] <slackorama> dude__: where did you download it to? Desktop?
[10:23] <dude__> how do i extract it to test dir
[10:23] <FusE> k ill use one of the other 4 KEYS
[10:23] <waylandbill> BrentR: by specifying that /boot gets mounted there during installation.
[10:23] <Spaceman3750> Guys, I have a major problem
[10:23] <dude__> mplayer site
[10:23] <NickGarvey> BrentR: the issue with that, is you would need to hack together a menu.lst yourself (or at least edit one)
[10:23] <Spaceman3750> My filesystem crashed, and fschk fails at boot
[10:24] <Spaceman3750> Can I recover this or do I have to reinstall?
[10:24] <NickGarvey> Spaceman3750: use a boot cd and fsck it
[10:24] <dude__> they are tar.gz or bz2 files
[10:24] <atrayo> NickGarvey: I currently have only the default extensions in Firefox. The closest thread on the forums about the problem I am having mentions "gnutls" library, and the person updated the "libgnutls11" package and it fixed his problem. When I looked in Synaptic, it said I already had the libguntls13 package (the checkbox was green) the thread is http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=10487&highlight=gmail+attachments+firefox but it
[10:24] <NickGarvey> aah.. always wanted to say that
[10:24] <BrentR> NickGarvey: Oh, I'd need help with that for sure
[10:24] <NickGarvey> BrentR: yeah exactly
[10:24] <bullgard4> Spaceman3750: Report the error message that you obtained.
[10:24] <dude__> su
[10:24] <Spaceman3750> I'm on live CD now, so issue fsck?
[10:24] <Spaceman3750> None
[10:24] <dustin> Hi all I'm trying to install GWiz (a remake of the old Wizardry game). The install script returns an error telling me "The sdl-config script installed by SDL could not be found" and suggesting that if it was installed that I should " set the SDL_CONFIG environment variable". Any ideas? I checked Synaptic and I see some SDL things installed. Just to be safe I added libsdl1.2debial-all, but I...
[10:24] <dustin> ...still get the error.
[10:25] <NickGarvey> Spaceman3750: yeah, fsck /broken/partition
[10:25] <akio> so i ./cofigure till all deps are met
[10:25] <Spaceman3750> It just sez that fsck failed and I need to run manually
[10:25] <slackorama> dude__: you need to find the file on your local system first.  Where did you download it TO (not from)?
[10:25] <Kai|iKey> hi
[10:25] <Kai|iKey> I need to reset all network settings to install defaults. the etc/network/interface file does not fix my problem ... any ideas?
[10:25] <dude__> my desktiop
[10:25] <akio> then i make
[10:25] <akio> then i make --install?
[10:25] <hypertyper> woot! thanks, h1st0!
[10:25] <NickGarvey> akio: drop the --
[10:25] <akio> i dont see that in make
[10:25] <iambob> so can any1 help me please
[10:25] <Spaceman3750> How do I tell it which partition to check?
[10:26] <waylandbill> dude__: just specify the full path to the tarball while in your test dir.
[10:26] <h1st0> hypertyper: np
[10:26] <BrentR> NickGarvey:Ok, so if I installed a small linux distro to a small partition, OR used that partition JUST for the /boot, then it can put Grub there, and I can boot as normal? THen, Grub will work with my external drive Ubuntu installation when it's plugged in?
[10:26] <akio> NickGarvey: make: *** No rule to make target `install'.  Stop.
[10:26] <NickGarvey> BrentR: yes, all the config files will be on the /boot partition
[10:26] <h1st0> hypertyper: just fyi there is a way to get all that stuff working the right way if you want to in the future stop in #desktop-effects
[10:26] <h1st0> hypertyper: they can get you going with all the eye candy etc..
[10:26] <BrentR> NickGarvey: Will it be easy to edit the lst file?
[10:26] <Spaceman3750> NickGarvey: How do I specify the partition to check?
[10:27] <NickGarvey> BrentR: you won't need to as long as you tell the installer where everything is
[10:27] <NickGarvey> Spaceman3750: fsck /dev/partition
[10:27] <slackorama> dude__: type 'tar xzvf ~/Desktop/nameoffile.tar.gz' inside of your test directory
[10:27] <NickGarvey> Spaceman3750: where "partition" is.. the partition
[10:27] <Spaceman3750> By letter, by name, what?
[10:27] <hypertyper> h1st0: just hopped in, but there appear to only be 2 people, and i'm one of them :(
[10:27] <dude__> xzvfxzvfcd test
[10:27] <waylandbill> BrentR: it's no different than /boot being simply a directory on the / partition really.
[10:27] <Spaceman3750> New to Ubuntu and it already has a major problem
[10:27] <slackorama> dude__: where nameoffile is the file you want to untar
[10:27] <BrentR> NickGarvey: Ok, so installing the small linux may be the way to go?
[10:27] <dude__> crap sorry
[10:27] <h1st0> hypertyper: #desktop-effects
[10:27] <_Codeman_> Spaceman3750: something like "fsck /dev/hda1" or w/e yours is
[10:27] <crolle17> i installed vlc, but my firefox doesn't play mp3. what could be the reason? or better which other package would this job better?
[10:27] <Spaceman3750> OK
[10:27] <skollie> FusE: any luck?
[10:27] <h1st0> hypertyper: err #ubuntu-effects
[10:28] <h1st0> sry
[10:28] <iambob> will someone help me please
[10:28] <BrentR> Sorry, I'm VERY new to all this, so I haven't totally wrapped my head around all the partitioning rules and stuff
[10:28] <NickGarvey> BrentR: erm, that is the one where you need to edit your menu.lst
[10:28] <stefg> !codecs crolle17
[10:28] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about codecs crolle17 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:28] <stefg> !codecs | crolle17
[10:28] <ubotu> crolle17: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[10:28] <skollie> !question | iambob
[10:28] <ubotu> iambob: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[10:28] <atrayo> crolle17: I used the Ubuntu Restricted Extras package
[10:28] <h1st0> hypertyper: but yeah there aren't too many people around at this hour
[10:28] <LukeEkblad> Hi
[10:28] <Dudeman> skollie: im in gnome, and without kde. when i try to start adept i get this. "Failed to execute child process "kdesu" (No such file or directory)"
[10:28] <BrentR> Oh, so if I reinstall Ubuntu on the external drive, and select the small partiton for "/boot" for the Ubuntu, then it should work?
[10:28] <waylandbill> dude__: tar zxvf /full/path/to/your/desktop/yourtarball.tar.gz  (obviously use the path to your desktop)
[10:28] <NickGarvey> BrentR: yup
[10:28] <LukeEkblad> Anyone know how to make Beryl come on when I start the computer?
[10:29] <skollie> dudeman: just a sec
[10:29] <BrentR> NickGarvey: Installing the other small distro would be MORE work?
[10:29] <Dudeman> skollie: k
[10:29] <NickGarvey> BrentR: yup
[10:29] <_Codeman_> iambob: what exactly are you trying to do?
[10:29] <iambob> ok im trying to install windows xp so i can play WoW but i need to know if i can boot it off of a mp3 player which is just like a flash drive
[10:29] <Spaceman3750> "WARNING!!!  Running e2fsck on a mounted filesystem may cause
[10:29] <Spaceman3750> SEVERE filesystem damage.
[10:29] <Spaceman3750> "
[10:29] <NickGarvey> Spaceman3750: UNMOUNT IT!
[10:29] <BrentR> NickGarvey: Just for curiosity, would those changes to the lst file be to redirect to the proper hd?
[10:29] <Spaceman3750> I DON'T KNOW HOW
[10:29] <dude__> i did what you said slackorama and i just gave me a >
[10:29] <crolle17> atrayo, how is it named?
[10:29] <RichiH> Spaceman3750: umount /mnt/whatever
[10:30] <stefg> iambob: a lot of peaople run WoW in wine, as i hear
[10:30] <_Codeman_> iambob: Only if your bios sees it I suppose
[10:30] <waylandbill> Spaceman3750: if it's / the use a boot cd and then fsck it
[10:30] <Spaceman3750> I'm not even 100% sure hda2 is Linux...  I know hda1 is Windows
[10:30] <NickGarvey> BrentR: the changes to the .lst would specify where the kernel was (probably just the crap that is in there now, but that isn't working so I'm not sure)
[10:30] <skollie> dudeman: were you running adept from the command line
[10:30] <Dudeman> skollie: menu
[10:30] <iambob> _Codeman_: how do i make my bios see it
[10:30] <RichiH> Spaceman3750: type 'mount' and paste the results onto a paste site
[10:30] <atrayo> crolle17: go to Add/Remove, and select the All Available Software, and type in Ubuntu Restricted Extras, I believe it is in the Others category
[10:30] <Dudeman> skollie: the error popped up in a window
[10:30] <NickGarvey> Spaceman3750: pastebin the output of "sudo mount" and "sudo fdisk -l"
[10:30] <crolle17> atrayo, ubuntu-restricted-extras?
[10:30] <BrentR> NickGarvey: Ok, well I'll work on that tomorrow I guess
[10:30] <NickGarvey> BrentR: good luck
[10:30] <NickGarvey> and good night I assume :)
[10:30] <skollie> dudeman: do you have kde installed and can you switch to it?
[10:31] <atrayo> crolle17: let me look at mine, hold on
[10:31] <NickGarvey> 4:30 am here
[10:31] <_Codeman_> iambob: If my understanding of booting from a flash drive is correct your bios has to support that... as far as what to do from there, I donno... never done it
[10:31] <Dudeman> skollie: no and no
[10:31] <Spaceman3750> NickGarvey, how do I find out what partition Linux is on?
[10:31] <NickGarvey> Spaceman3750: paste bin those and I'll tell you
[10:31] <BrentR> NickGarvey: Thanks, and thanks SOOOOOO much for your help. It's 3:30am here, and I gotta work at 10am, so I'm going to try and sleep now
[10:31] <Dudeman> skollie: im on a clean install from dvd. updated though
[10:31] <NickGarvey> :) night
[10:31] <iambob> _Codeman_: kk thanks
[10:31] <BrentR> Morning!
[10:31] <Dudeman> skollie: didnt come with kde
[10:31] <BrentR> haha
[10:31] <atrayo> crolle17: it is named Ubuntu restricted extras
[10:31] <stefg> Spaceman3750: simply type 'mount' in a terminal
[10:31] <FusE> skollie, no luck, I tried all four keys and I cannot even get a signal. Should I up down it?
[10:31] <_Codeman_> iambob: no problem
[10:32] <slackorama> dude__: if the command is short, paste it in here on one line.
[10:32] <skollie> Dudeman: Now I'm as stuck as you are... try to google upgrading in synaptic
[10:32] <crolle17> atrayo, alright. i will install it... and see
[10:32] <iambob> _Codeman_: what about trying to boot it from a second hardrive is that possible
[10:32] <Dudeman> skollie: alrighty. so you are running 7.10 and it worked for you? if so ill just figure it out from there
[10:32] <atrayo> crolle17: It worked for me for Mp3s
[10:32] <Spaceman3750> stefg: How do I tell which?
[10:32] <skollie> Fuse: if no signal, the device is not working. Did you reinstall the driver?
[10:33] <FusE> no, how do I do that lol
[10:33] <FusE> Ive never done driver work on linux
[10:33] <stefg> Spaceman3750: the one which is mounted on / (root)
[10:33] <skollie> Dudeman; the diver installation worked, but I cannot guarantee the dive will
[10:33] <_Codeman_> iambob: Yes, my ubuntu boots from my secondary drive
[10:33] <skollie> dudeman: *device
[10:33] <LukeEkblad> I need help, I want Beryl to run on startup, anyone know how I can do this?
[10:33] <dude__>  tar zxvf ~/Desktop/Mplayer-1.Orc1.tar.gz
[10:34] <h1st0> LukeEkblad: System > Preferences > Session
[10:34] <Dudeman> skollie: understandable. at this point i just want the damn driver installed lol cuz the device really wont work without it
[10:34] <stefg> !effcts | LukeEkblad
[10:34] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about effcts - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:34] <h1st0> LukeEkblad: add it there
[10:34] <atrayo> Any other Gmail users in here? I can't attach files to my mail - I click on send and it just keeps loading
[10:34] <iambob> _Codeman_: but can i install windows xp from a second hardrive to my first hard drive
[10:34] <FusE> skollie, wher do I reinstall the driver from
[10:34] <stefg> !effects | LukeEkblad
[10:34] <ubotu> LukeEkblad: For help or discussion on Beryl or Compiz desktop effects, please go to #ubuntu-effects
[10:34] <Dudeman> skollie: i will try and update to 7.10 and see if that will work
[10:34] <skollie> Dudeman: Good luck!
[10:34] <LukeEkblad> no ones there
[10:34] <_Codeman_> iambob: I'm not sure I understand the question there
[10:34] <Newbie_Dude> @atrayo : I use GMail and do not have that problem. Are you running it through Firefox? Do you have any strange Firefox Addons installed?
[10:34] <Dudeman> skollie: thanks for all your help skollie. see you in the future. ill come back and let you know how it goes
[10:34] <skollie> Fuse: I assume you can see the device?
[10:34] <Spaceman3750> stefg: I'm going to pastebin this
[10:34] <stefg> LukeEkblad: that's sad, but still no beryl in here
[10:34] <FusE> skollie, yesw
[10:34] <skollie> dudeman: np
[10:35] <Dudeman> skollie: later
[10:35] <vandl> i have a wireless connection my wifi card is recognized, but when i type pppoeconfig in terminal to enter my network username and password it doesn't work, can somebody help me?
[10:35] <skollie> fuse: and does it show it as enabled?
[10:35] <Total_dumbass> Hi!
[10:35] <LukeEkblad> ok, how to I make a "program" run on startup?   stefg?
[10:35] <FusE> Wait where?
[10:35] <FusE> Under networking?
[10:35] <FusE> Yeah, eth1 is enabled
[10:35] <akio> Flannel: nautilus-open-terminal is installed but when i try to add it as a command in nautilus for open with it says its not there
[10:35] <skollie> fuse: yes
[10:35] <LukeEkblad> Total_dumbass:   Hi
[10:36] <atrayo> Newbie_Dude: yes I am using Firefox, the default one that came with Feisty. I haven't added any extensions yet...I'm really at a loss, the closest reference I could find on the forums mentions libgnutls library
[10:36] <iambob> _Codeman_: me and a friend of mine are trying to get windows xp installed on my hard drive so that we can play WoW the copy of it is on his second hard drive can i make his act like a cd or floppy
[10:36] <stefg> LukeEkblad: there's an extensive howto on beryl, which you shouldn't have probs locating by google
[10:36] <_Codeman_> iambob: now that I think about it, what you really want to look into is how to configure grub... grub is the boot loader... no matter where your os's are located if you configure grub right and your bios can see each of these drives... you should be able to boot anything lol
[10:36] <FusE> Yeah, eth1 is enabled skollie
[10:36] <skollie> fuse: but it cannot see your wireless router?
[10:36] <LukeEkblad> stefg:  whats Beryl?
[10:36] <vandl> i have a wireless connection my wifi card is recognized, but when i type pppoeconfig in terminal to enter my network username and password it doesn't work, can somebody help me?
[10:36] <Spaceman3750> stefg: The results of my mount command are at http://pastebin.com/m1a8e73ed  I can't tell heads from tails :(
[10:36] <hypertyper> iambob: there is a better way... or rather, there is a way to play wow without installing xp
[10:36] <FusE> physically I can see everything, on the computer, I guess the dhcp server is not setting a IP addr
[10:36] <dude__> slackorama?
[10:37] <natsumey_> arghh stress, why when i ping my gateway always receive timeout ?
[10:37] <dude__> it says no such file or dir
[10:37] <_Codeman_> iambob: You might, that's something you would have to try and see, I've install Win98 from a hd before
[10:37] <skollie> fuse: in other words, it tries to connect but cannot?
[10:37] <hypertyper> iambob: use your browser to search for "howto wow <your distro here>"
[10:37] <FusE> correct
[10:37] <dude__> did u get my paste?
[10:37] <skollie> fuse: and with no security it works?
[10:37] <FusE> yup
[10:37] <hypertyper> iambob: for instance, i am running ubuntu, so i searched for "howto wow ubuntu"
[10:37] <iambob> hypertyper: if it is using a windows emulator i have tried that it says cannot use 3d accelorator or something like that
[10:37] <Newbie_Dude> @atrayo: OK, gimme a sec, I'm gonna try attaching something to an eMail.
[10:38] <vandl> i have a wireless connection on a feisty ubuntu my wifi card is recognized, but when i type pppoeconfig in terminal to enter my network username and password it doesn't work, can somebody help me?
[10:38] <slackorama> dude__: yeah...the file is located in ~/Desktop/ right?
[10:38] <LukeEkblad> Anyone know how to I make a "program" run on startup?
[10:38] <hypertyper> iambob: what video card do you have in the machine?
[10:38] <FusE> skollie, but booting to old kernel works with key
[10:38] <Spaceman3750> stefg: Did you get my paste?
[10:38] <skollie> fuse: again, check your security settings. Are you using WEP/WAP, is the key correct etc etc
[10:38] <Nuktar> ubuntu
[10:38] <aa^way> hey, when i do "Move to workspace right" where it goes?
[10:38] <Nuktar> hello ubuntu
[10:38] <dude__> its in home folder
[10:38] <FusE> wep and it is correct
[10:38] <_Codeman_> iambob: As popular as WoW is, there's surely a howto for playing it on ANY distro lol
[10:38] <dude__> icon is on desktop
[10:38] <stefg> Spaceman3750: yup... funny that6 you don't appear to have a root mounted  :-\
[10:38] <aa^way> i cant see anything where it moved.
[10:38] <dude__> is that the same
[10:39] <skollie> fuse: ascii/hex?
[10:39] <Newbie_Dude> please don't talk about WoW, I just quit :P
[10:39] <Spaceman3750> I'm on a Live CD...  I can get to the Linux partition from here...
[10:39] <FusE> I think its set as ascii skollie
[10:39] <slackorama> dude__: so the file is located at ~/MPlayer-1.0rc1.tar.bz?
[10:39] <Spaceman3750> But it doesn't show it?
[10:39] <dude__> yeah
[10:39] <iambob> hypertyper: its a i810 series
[10:39] <dawn`chorus> Spaceman3750, what do you mean "get to"?
[10:39] <Spaceman3750> What is the default for a standard installation next to Windows?
[10:39] <Spaceman3750> I can read it
[10:39] <skollie> fuse: try switching
[10:39] <stefg> Spaceman3750: are you sre you have pasted the complete output. i think the first line is missing
[10:39] <iambob> hypertyper: i have played wow on it before i installed ubuntu
[10:40] <Total_dumbass> Got a little problem here... Tried to install KDE on Ubuntu (aptitude install kubuntu-desktop, kde-desktop etc), seems that everything went fine, but now I lost my login screen (have to type startx to get into GUI), and there's no KDE, just good old Ubuntu Nautilus... How to get to KDE? Any ideas? Thanks.
[10:40] <FusE> skollie, right now its set to hexadecmial Il ltry ascii
[10:40] <slackorama> dude__: then type 'tar zxvf ~/MPlayer-1.0rc1.tar.gz'
[10:40] <Spaceman3750> stefg: The entire thing is there
[10:40] <hypertyper> iambob: check the wow website for system requirements. you may not be able to play wow with that video card. alternatively, someone else here may be able to help you get an updated driver
[10:40] <Newbie_Dude> @atrayo: Worked for me. I just installed Ubuntu for the first time three days ago. Also I did the updates through Update Manager. Perhaps it's the type of file you're trying to attach?
[10:40] <aa^way> hey, when i do "Move to workspace right" where it goes?
[10:40] <stefg> Spaceman3750: type 'sudo fdisk -l' and pastebin that output, plz
[10:40] <FusE> skollie, no matter the mode, no matter the key, it just does not connect
[10:40] <hypertyper> iambob: i know there are some video cards that do not work - particularly integrated video cards such as the intel chipset cards, and the chrome
[10:41] <skollie> aa^way: to the workspace on the right
[10:41] <Spaceman3750> stefg: That doesn't do the same as it does in Windows, does it?
 Kubuntu still sucks... Maybe KDE4 will make it better.
[10:41] <aa^way> skollie well its not there, should i see icon or something?
[10:41] <iambob> hypertyper: i have played wow with it i meet all requirments
[10:41] <akio> i want a tutorial on how to handle tarballs
[10:41] <vandl> i have a wireless connection on a feisty ubuntu my wifi card is recognized, but when i type pppoeconfig in terminal to enter my network username and password it doesn't work, can somebody help me?
[10:41] <Newbie_Dude> !find doomsday
[10:41] <ubotu> Found: kdoomsday
[10:41] <stefg> Spaceman3750: no, that lists your partitions
[10:41] <dude__> nope
[10:41] <Spaceman3750> stefg: OK, thanks
[10:41] <Newbie_Dude> !kdoomsday
[10:41] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kdoomsday - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:41] <dude__> thanx for your patience
[10:41] <slackorama> dude__: is it a tar.gz or tar.bz2 file?
[10:41] <Total_dumbass> Nuktar, I needed Creox tool, which is only in KDE...
[10:41] <dude__> tar.bz2
[10:41] <skollie> aa^way: on your taskbar there should be the desktop switching tool
[10:42] <Nuktar> Yea, such situation do suck.
[10:42] <Newbie_Dude> Anyone here use DOSBox -- the DOS Emulator -- in Ubuntu?
[10:42] <atrayo> Newbie_Dude: Thanks for checking, I appreciate it...I really am clueless, I installed about 5 days ago, I initially was trying to send an mp3, and now I've been trying to test with an .ogg file. I guess I will try Evolution, but I have my doubts that will get around this, I might try a new post at the forums too, I tried graduating from Beginner Talk to General, but I guess that gets a lot less help there :) Thanks for checking, at
[10:42] <akio> dude: yeah
[10:42] <skollie> Fuse: Have you tried regenrating the keys?
[10:42] <Spaceman3750> stefg: http://pastebin.com/m7bb4034f
[10:42] <FusE> no because I use the same key on windowsw
[10:42] <slackorama> dude__: then type 'tar xjvf ~/file.tar.bz2'
[10:42] <iambob> i have gotten pretty far in installing Windows with the second hd but it says error 13 not a excuttable file
[10:42] <hypertyper> iambob: then it may be a driver issue, or you may need to install xp. if you are going to install xp, i recommend downloading the "Super Grub Disk" beforehand, as it will make reinstalling grub much simpler after xp cheerfully breaks it for you
[10:43] <Nuktar> I tried Kubuntu and it seemed catastrophically integrated , i mean Ubuntu base with KDE.
[10:43] <Newbie_Dude> @atrayo: try compressing it.... Could be that GMail has a no-MP3 policy. I know that attachments can only be a maximum of 10 MB.
[10:43] <vandl> i have a wireless connection on a feisty ubuntu my wifi card is recognized, but when i type pppoeconfig in terminal to enter my network username and password it doesn't work, can somebody help me?
[10:43] <iambob> hypertyper: were do i find that
[10:43] <Newbie_Dude> If you use DOSBox -- Which front-end do you use for Ubuntu? Trying to find a decent GUI for DOSBox.
[10:43] <Spaceman3750> stefg: So "unmount /dev/hda3" followed by "fsck /dev/hda3" ?
[10:43] <stefg> Spaceman3750: k, your ubuntu is on hda2 .... what ubuntu-version are you running? this looks suspicious
[10:43] <skollie> fuse: slowly work your way trhough your security settings. You should find what the problem is
[10:43] <FusE> everything is verified it just doesnt work
[10:43] <Spaceman3750> stefg: 7.04
[10:43] <Nuktar> Does anybody how can I get more game for Ubuntu? (except those in standart repos)
[10:43] <Total_dumbass> Nuktar, that's the problem. Seems, that i Have to reinstall all only to get one piece of software...
[10:44] <Spaceman3750> Nuktar: Wine
[10:44] <atrayo> Newbie_Dude: Well, I know I was under the 10 mb limit, and I'm almost positive you can mail mp3, and I'm sure they wouldn't ban .ogg...O
[10:44] <skollie> fuse: but clearly, if it works with security disabled, that is where the problem lies, no?
[10:44] <gnudles> !ggl ubuntu games
[10:44] <hypertyper> iambob: use your favorite search engine, look for "super grub disk"
[10:44] <f4l3> hello @ *
[10:44] <iambob> hypertyper: yea it broke my friends we think he has to reinstall ubuntu completly
[10:44] <FusE> skollie, is there any way to copy all the network info from another kernel
[10:44] <vandl> i have a wireless connection on a feisty ubuntu my wifi card is recognized, but when i type pppoeconfig in terminal to enter my network username and password it doesn't work, can somebody help me?
[10:44] <Nuktar> Yea, yea, wine, cedega. Some native games?
[10:44] <Newbie_Dude> @atrayo : Try another web browser -- like Opera. Perhaps it is a Firefox problem. If it doesn't work in Opera then it is either Ubuntu or GMail. :P Sorry I can't help more.
[10:45] <hypertyper> iambob: you'll need a blank cd, and a way to put an iso on it. instructions are provided on the website for doing so in linux
[10:45] <skollie> fuse: probably, but generally not a good idea
[10:45] <Spaceman3750> stefg: What do you think?
[10:45] <stefg> Spaceman3750: hda3 is the extended partition (so this means it never got mounted anywhere, it's just a container. your boot-setup and/or /etc/fstab are wrong, that's the reason you get the error. hda3 does nt have any filesystem
[10:45] <FusE> it worked on 2.5.15
[10:45] <Nuktar> Firefox @ Ubuntu totally sucks ! Opera sucks less.
[10:45] <Newbie_Dude> !qt
[10:45] <ubotu> Qt is the Q toolkit, which forms the base of KDE and is used by many applications to provide a !GUI. Install the libqt3-mt-dev package to compile Qt applications
[10:45] <atrayo> Newbie_Dude: oops - anyway I was going to say, I've been getting disconnects every once in a while, but when I'm connected the connection is fine. Maybe its related, I dunno / Yeah, I'll give Evolution or Thunderbird a try first, but then maybe I'll try another browser
[10:45] <FusE> but its nto working on 2.5.17
[10:45] <skollie> vandl: when you say 'doesn't work' what do you mean?
[10:45] <xhaan> you can install windows on a second disk without ruining grub by doing a hardware swap... just hook up the disk you install windows to by itself and unplug the one that has grub on it.. then switch them back
[10:45] <Spaceman3750> stefg: OK, so "unmount /dev/hda2" followed by "fsck /dev/hda2"
[10:46] <Spaceman3750> stefg: Correct?  Do they need to be run using sudo?
[10:46] <vandl> i cannot introduce my user and password
[10:46] <Newbie_Dude> @Nuktar -- What's so bad about Firefox for Ubuntu? What do you suggest? I don't mind trying a new browser as long as I get an AdBlocker-type of plugin. :E
[10:46] <reed026> Do you think 128mb of Ram is not enough to run Kubuntu? I tried to install Xubuntu, however on every download I did ( Torrent and direct download) the cd would be defective. However, I was able to download / burn / install Kubuntu to my old Gateway E3000 with 128mb of Ram. It is kind of slow and was wondering what size I should get. I was thinking of just purchasing a 256mb or 512mb ram stick, though I am just trying to get the minimal spec as this is only goi
[10:46] <hypertyper> Nuktar: what kind of games are you looking for?
[10:46] <vandl> for network authorization
[10:46] <Nuktar> total_dumbass : Maybe there is a replacement of creox in gnome
[10:46] <stefg> Spaceman3750: won't work, you can't unmount your root-partition, and you don't need to fsck, that's a bogus error
[10:46] <FusE> skollie
[10:46] <dude__> nad
[10:46] <iambob> hypertyper: can u tell me what i am doing wrong in installing windows xp i keep going to gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[10:46] <Total_dumbass> Is there any terminal command to switch from GNOME to KDE... Both are installed on my machine, but I got access only to Gnome...
[10:46] <hypertyper> reed026: in my experience, you'll want at least 256mb of ram to run any ubuntu distro
[10:46] <dude__> nada
[10:46] <FusE> what if I turned off security and installed feisty
[10:46] <crolle17> atrayo, i installed, but this page doesn't play its mp3 with that package: http://www.soundquake.com
[10:46] <Spaceman3750> stefg: So what do I do?  I would rather not reinstall if I don't have to...
[10:47] <skollie> Fuse: unlikely to be a kernel problem - has to do with your security settings for the device
[10:47] <stefg> Spaceman3750: how did you install? and did you tinker after that?
[10:47] <reed026> thanks hypertyper. My current machine has 1GB and a crappy videocard, though it renders 3rd very well with the latest ATI drivers :)
[10:47] <Nuktar> See, It's not lightweight, it's messing my dependencies up, it's slow and the plugins are working weird/
[10:47] <Newbie_Dude> Are "Qt" versions of applications compatible with Ubuntu?
[10:47] <slackorama> dude__: nothing?  you are running it from the terminal right?
[10:47] <FusE> >.< where do I view the network settings on a previous kernel
[10:47] <skollie> vandl: what happens exactly?
[10:47] <dude__> yeah
[10:47] <Spaceman3750> stefg: I did a standard install.  No tinkering.  My bro said Ubuntu crashed on logout and he rebooted, and got the fsck screen when he booted back up
[10:47] <vandl> skollie: so my wifi card is erconized
[10:47] <reed026> Oh and it runs straight Ubuntu, though I am starting to like Kubuntu.
[10:47] <dude__> i always get no such file or dir
[10:47] <sx66> I can not find the sudo apt-get install 915resolution in kubuntu...
[10:48] <slackorama> dude__: and no errors are output?  nothing is output?
[10:48] <Spaceman3750> stefg: Or whatever it does with a bad filesystem
[10:48] <dude__> thsi is the file as it appears as an icon on the desktop
[10:48] <hypertyper> iambob: i'm not sure i understand your question... is xp already installed?
[10:48] <skollie> vandl: I thought your card was recognised?
[10:48] <vandl> in fact i don't know how to enable my network connection (the wireless)because i have a usernam and password
[10:48] <Nuktar> About games... See, games like Warzone 2100, Warsow, FreeCnc aren't in the standart repos. I still have problems compiling or installing something i downloaded.
[10:48] <iambob> hypertyper: no im trying to get it installed using the second hd as a disk instead of what it really is
[10:48] <dude__> /home/dude/Desktop/MPlayer-1.0rc1.tar.bz2
[10:48] <FusE> >.< where do I view the network settings on a previous kernel
[10:49] <Newbie_Dude> @Nuktar - You're telling me, I've spent the past 30 minutes trying to compile Doomsday. >_<
[10:49] <hypertyper> iambob: then i'm not sure what grub has to do with it.
[10:49] <slackorama> dude__: ugh..i thought you said the file was in /home/dude/
[10:49] <xhaan> iambob, is it installed or youre in the process of doing it?
[10:49] <dude__> ive tried satndard dir and test dir to no avail
[10:49] <skollie> fuse: you would have to boot into that kernel
[10:49] <vandl> skollie: my question is: how do you enable a wireless connection after the card is well recognized
[10:49] <stefg> Spaceman3750: can you paste your /etc/fstab ? (and the ouptput of lspci, maybe) ?
[10:49] <hypertyper> iambob: it might be best to acquire a windows xp install cd, and use that to install... there's something to be said for having legit software ;)
[10:49] <xhaan> iambob, windows doesnt like to be on a second disk btw, you may have to temporarily swap the disks
[10:49] <dude__> was i wrong
[10:50] <Nuktar> Has anyone tried Fedora 7? I am downloading it now. Shall I try it? Or I leave my Ubuntu install?
[10:50] <iambob> hypertyper:  it sets it as something i boot from like a cd instead of hardrive
[10:50] <bullgard4> My computer contains 40 files with 'hwmon' in its name but a kernel module 'hwmon' is not loaded. Can one explain to me the concept of 'hwmon'?
[10:50] <FusE> i dont get it, its the same settings
[10:50] <hypertyper> xhaan: i strongly disagree
[10:50] <skollie> vandl: you would not do it via pppoe, that's for sure. You need to set it to connect to your wireless router
[10:50] <bullgard4> /usr/src/linux-source-source-2.6.20/Documentation/kobject.txt writes: "The kobject infrastructure performs basic object management that larger data  structures and subsystems can leverage, rather than reimplement similar functionality." For what stands 'k' in 'kobject'?
[10:50] <slackorama> dude__: then type 'tar xjvf /home/dude/Desktop/Mpalyer-1.0rc1.tar.bz2'
[10:50] <dude__> in archive manager i extracted contents to home folder
[10:50] <FusE> oh wait skollie, thers a signal strength now
[10:50] <iambob> xhaan:  the other disk wont load ubuntu the kernel got messed up i think
[10:50] <FusE> just cant connect
[10:50] <FusE> to internet and stuff
[10:50] <hypertyper> xhaan: i am running xp pro 64 on drive 3, xp home on drive 4, and ubuntu on drive 2. my primary master is actually a cdrom
[10:51] <vandl> skollie: and how to do that?
[10:51] <skollie> vandl: you would use your network settings to configure the wireless device
[10:51] <Spaceman3750> stefg: http://pastebin.com/m1abd251c
[10:51] <reed026> Hmm I looked up specs for my E3000 and it says it supports up to 256mb of ram. There are two slots and I was wondering if it is better to purchase 1 256mb or 2 128mb
[10:51] <xhaan> hypertyper, thats fine, i run xp on drive 2, but people -have- had problems running it on slave drives
[10:51] <skollie> fuse: so it sees your router and now needs to connect to get an ip address
[10:51] <FusE> yes
[10:52] <slackorama> dude__: archive manager works too.  so you have the files extracted now.
[10:52] <crolle17> atrayo, can you play mp3 of that page?
[10:52] <Norma> Hey guys - I am trying to work out where the host myhost.lan information is stored - I have changed the /etc/hostname and this is reflected i my shell however when I ping somewhere it still sees me as myhost.lan
[10:52] <vandl> skollie: but i cannot find a place where to enter my network username and password
[10:52] <dude__> yeah
[10:52] <hypertyper> reed026: if the board supports a total of 256mb, then it won't recognize anything larger than 128 per slot, assuming 2 slots.
[10:52] <skollie> fuse: use your network settings to restart the device
[10:52] <vandl> skollie: in the network configuration utility
[10:52] <FusE> err how
[10:52] <stefg> Spaceman3750: ok, looks sane... so i'd need a look at /boot/grub/menu.lst , too
[10:52] <Spaceman3750> stefg: You got it boss :)
[10:52] <skollie> vandl: what network name and password?
[10:52] <hypertyper> reed026: on the other hand, you might check with the manufacturer to see if there's a bios update that allows it to address more memory. rare, but not unheard of
[10:53] <_Codeman_> where/how do joysticks show up?
[10:53] <slackorama> dude__: so now just follow the directions for building it.
[10:53] <vandl> skollie:i have a wireless connection to the internet and i got a username and passwoed
[10:53] <xhaan> for example, mine wont even boot up without the grub map commands
[10:53] <xhaan> tricking it into thinking windows is the first disk
[10:53] <Spaceman3750> stefg: http://pastebin.com/d4c55abed
[10:53] <vandl> and under XP it' configured like a pppoe connection
[10:54] <reed026> hmm The latest Bios update on their site addressed the Harddrive issues I had with it not recognizing my 40gb hd
[10:54] <dude__> i tried that last combo...ill try
[10:54] <hypertyper> _Codeman_: hey, i wanna know that, too!
[10:54] <FusE> skollie how do I restart the device...
[10:54] <dude__> thanx for your help. if i have any more questions can i ask you?
[10:54] <skollie> vandl: so what do you mean you cannot enter it?
[10:54] <_Codeman_> hypertyper: what kind do you have?
[10:54] <skollie> fuse: disable and enable
[10:54] <reed026> and hypertyper that was a hell of a ride to upgrade without an OS :) Had to do a lot of reading on making DOS bootdisks, which helped me a lot for future references.
[10:54] <FusE> k but IVe done that
[10:54] <Newbie_Dude> !snowberry
[10:54] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about snowberry - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:55] <slackorama> dude__: i'm off to bed actually.
[10:55] <dude__> you rock tho
[10:55] <dude__> thanx again
[10:55] <slackorama> dude__: you saw this right: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=31061
[10:55] <shack> Hi there guys, how can I list my users/group their homedir etc in terminal?
[10:55] <stefg> Spaceman3750: looks sane, too ... strange... ok, so while we are at inspection you could paste 'dmesg', too
[10:55] <shack> or is there some file where this info is stored?
[10:55] <dude__> i know its probably hard dealin with newbies
[10:55] <Spaceman3750> Is that a command?
[10:55] <skollie> fuse: or command line - sudo ifdown eth1 and the sudo ifup eth1
[10:55] <slackorama> dude__: no worries.
[10:56] <towlieban> how do i do apt-get in a way to get an older version of the beryl package (0.2.0 instead of 0.2.1) ?
[10:56] <dude__> right on ----PEACE!
[10:56] <crolle17> can sonebody give an hint why my firefox doesn't play all online-mp3? it's curious to me.
[10:56] <crolle17> somebody
[10:56] <gnomefreak> towlieban: sudo apt-get install beryl=fullversion you want
[10:56] <vandl> skollie: do u have an idea about what could i do?
[10:56] <gnomefreak> towlieban: that is assuming its still in cache
[10:56] <crolle17> i mean the browser uses the same codec for all pages, right?
[10:56] <Nuktar> crolle17: Sorry to say, but firefox sucks. Check the plugins.
[10:57] <Spaceman3750> stefg: http://pastebin.com/d6222dec3
[10:57] <dude__> showthread.php?t=31061
[10:57] <crolle17> Nuktar, which plugin?
[10:57] <Nergar> is there a setting so ubuntu boots only to a text login?
[10:57] <stefg> Spaceman3750: k, hold on a sec
[10:57] <FusE> skollie, I did what you said, still cant connect to internet
[10:57] <gnomefreak> towlieban: if apt-cache show packagename shows the older version you want you can use the command i gave you. if not you cant
[10:57] <skollie> vandl: is your wireless device used to connect to your ISP or is it to connect to a wireless router?
[10:57] <crolle17> Nuktar, i tried foxytunes. but that didn't help.
[10:57] <Spaceman3750> stefg: No problem, I have awhile :)
[10:57] <_Codeman_> So, no one plays games with a joystick in ubuntu :P
[10:58] <FusE> skollie, want a ss off the ifdown and ifup?
 give me the Link i'll check it one some browsers.
[10:58] <skollie> fuse: your device is not being authenticated by your router, which as I've indicated before, is probably related to your security settings, because it works when your security is disabled
[10:58] <crolle17> Nuktar, http://www.soundquake.com/
[10:58] <gordonjcp> crolle17: have you got mp3 support?
[10:58] <skollie> fuse: what is ss?
[10:59] <crolle17> gordonjcp, i installed lot of codecs. and the browser plays mp3 of other pages.
[10:59] <ari_stress> hi a;;
[10:59] <Ex-Cyber> _Codeman_: i use a gamepad adapter... not quite a joystick but I don't think Linux really cares about the difference ;)
[10:59] <ari_stress> ubuntu 7.10 has been released?
[10:59] <gnomefreak> crolle17: what version of ubuntu?
[10:59] <FusE> skollie, screenshot, it says "NO DHCPOFFERS" then "no working leases"
[10:59] <vandl> skollie: ISP
[10:59] <skollie> crolle17: you sure the mp3 not playng is a valid file?
[10:59] <stefg> Spaceman3750: is this an AthlonXP/nforce2 system?
[10:59] <Newbie_Dude> !pastebin
[10:59] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[10:59] <crolle17> gordonjcp, only some are avoided
[10:59] <vandl> skollie: i thin
[10:59] <Spaceman3750> stefg: That's correct
[10:59] <gordonjcp> crolle17: can you paste a link to an example that doesn't work?
[10:59] <gnomefreak> crolle17: what version of flash
[11:00] <crolle17> skollie, yes i'm sure. i tried a lot of that page.
[11:00] <_Codeman_> Well, mine is usb... I can't tell if it's showing up, I don't see it in lsusb :/ (I'm not entirely it even works lol )
[11:00] <skollie> Fuse: it is the same problem you had earlier, so again - work your way through the security stuff. You might just be missing something...
[11:00] <_Codeman_> I never really got it to work in Windows, but Windows is ghey
[11:00] <crolle17> gnomefreak, no flash
[11:01] <gnomefreak> crolle17: what version of ubuntu and what arch?
[11:01] <netyire> hello all, anyone know any good manuals on irc commands?
[11:01] <Ex-Cyber> _Codeman_: in any case, stuff is usually tested for Windows
[11:01] <crolle17> gnomefreak, it's a feisty one
[11:01] <skollie> vandl: I'm still not sure what you mean when you say that you cannot enter your username and password.
[11:01] <towlieban> can anyone help me
[11:01] <towlieban> i need to install beryl 0.2.0
[11:01] <netyire> !irc commands
[11:01] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about irc commands - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:01] <stefg> Spaceman3750: hehe, got the same. what boggles me is that it's not handled through libata (meaning your disk should actually be sda instead of hda). can you run 'sudo touch /forcefsk' without getting an error?
[11:01] <towlieban> and the newest is 0.2.1
[11:01] <gnomefreak> crolle17: 386 64 ppc?
[11:01] <gordonjcp> crolle17: I folloed the MP3 link at the top of the page, and every mp3 I tried works
[11:02] <stefg> Spaceman3750: hehe, got the same. what boggles me is that it's not handled through libata (meaning your disk should actually be sda instead of hda). can you run 'sudo touch /forcefsck' without getting an error?
[11:02] <crolle17> gnomefreak, yes
[11:02] <skollie> crolle17: and some work and others don't?
[11:02] <gnomefreak> yes all 3?
[11:02] <Spaceman3750> stefg I will try
[11:02] <PooriMoori> Hi how can i setup IIS on the Ubuntu ?
  ubuntuguide.org
[11:02] <_Codeman_> Right, but I still donno if it works or how to know if linux even sees it
[11:02] <towlieban> i read that already
[11:02] <vandl> skollie: so i cannot finde the place, the dialog window where i could enter the username and passw to enable the connection
[11:02] <Spaceman3750> stefg: It runs, but doesn't output anything
[11:02] <Nuktar> You need beryl? The last version?
[11:02] <towlieban> no
[11:03] <crolle17> gordonjcp, yes. so i think it's a browser-problem.
[11:03] <towlieban> the latest is 0.2.1
[11:03] <vandl> skollie: in the network configuration utility the wireless care appears to work well
[11:03] <stefg> Spaceman3750: that's good... now reboot, this will trigger an fsck at reboot. if it runs ok, you're fixed
[11:03] <crolle17> gordonjcp, a problem of my browser...
[11:03] <akio> how do i get gstreamer to play m4a's?
[11:03] <vandl> skollie: my question is where is the place to enter usr and passw
[11:03] <Spaceman3750> stefg: Roger, will try it out
[11:03] <crolle17> skollie, none of them work
[11:03] <gnomefreak> crolle17: please feel free to join me in #ubuntu-mozillateam when you feel like answering questions and getting help.
[11:03] <Ex-Cyber> _Codeman_: detach/reattach it and pastebin the output of: dmesg | tail
[11:03] <gnomefreak> crolle17: more than likely its not a browser issue
[11:03] <Newbie_Dude> I'm trying to compile Doomsday (a DOOM frontend) and I installed all the needed packages but I get this weird error when I try to cmake (at the end of the pastebin) http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29888/ Can anyone tell me what it is asking me to do?
[11:03] <skollie> vandl: when you run pppoeconfig, minimise your windows. Perhaps the dialog window is hidden?
[11:04] <shack> How can I list all users/groups and their homedirs in terminal? help appriciated
[11:04] <skollie> crolle17: maybe it's a problem with the links?
[11:04] <vandl> i have tryed with pppoeconfig and it said that it finds no device
[11:04] <crolle17> skollie, no. someone tried it too and it works.
[11:04] <Nuktar> How's Fedora 7? Does it rock or shall i leave ubuntu ? Advice needed!
[11:05] <skollie> vandl: have you set up your card as a wireless device or adsl connection?
[11:05] <vandl> wireless
[11:05] <_Codeman_> THANKS, there's an error!!!
[11:05] <skollie> vandl: but it's used to connect to your ISP, right?
[11:05] <vandl> skollie: wireless
[11:05] <vandl> skollie: yes
[11:06] <skollie> vandl: so it is a wireless modem connect to your computer via an ethernet cable?
[11:06] <skollie> crolle17: have you tried downloading any of the files?
[11:07] <Nuktar> Does any body know a lightweight browser, mine is screwed.
[11:07] <Frogzoo_> Nuktar: links2
[11:07] <Newbie_Dude> I'm trying to compile Doomsday (a DOOM frontend) and I installed all the needed packages but I get this weird error when I try to cmake (Line 38) http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29888/ Can anyone tell me what it is asking me to do?
[11:07] <Ex-Cyber> Nuktar: depends on what you expect "lightweight" to be, but I was pretty impressed with Dillo
[11:07] <_Codeman_> Ex-Cyber: There's an error assigning an address or something lol, thanks :D
[11:07] <Nuktar> it's mozilla engine?
[11:07] <vandl> skollie: no, it's a wireless card on the pci slot
[11:08] <Nuktar> neither mozilla engine or qt
[11:08] <vandl> skollie: and an antenna cabel which goes up to the roof
[11:08] <vandl> skollie: so no ethernet cable
[11:08] <crolle17> skollie, no.
[11:08] <Ex-Cyber> _Codeman_: I think I've seen something like that before, but AFAIK there's no simple fix for it, it's just the device misbehaving :(
[11:09] <skollie> vandl: try setting it up as an adsl connection rather than a wireless card
[11:09] <skollie> crolle17: try and see what happens
[11:09] <AJ--> hi guys. i just want to ask wat should i do so i can make my resolution 1440x900... coz its not in the menu in desktop resolution
[11:09] <stefg> shack: !X | AJ--
[11:09] <stefg> !X | AJ--
[11:09] <ubotu> AJ--: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[11:09] <vandl> skollie: ok then my questio is to delet it and the ubuntu aftere erstart will reconize again my card?
[11:10] <vandl> skollie: thanx i'll try what you have told me
[11:10] <shack> stefg: thanks
[11:10] <Ex-Cyber> Newbie_Dude: do you have the libncurses5-dev package installed?
[11:10] <skollie> vandl: you don't want to delete the device- just to set it up as a different connection, but I'm still not sure what you use it for
[11:10] <Newbie_Dude> I dont think so Ex-Cyber
[11:10] <stefg> shack: sorry, my autocompletion ... wasn't for you :-\
[11:10] <_Codeman_> Ex-Cyber: It's probably bad... like I said, it never really worked in Win either lol, but maybe I'll go to wal-mart sometime and get that usb adapter for the ps2 controller lol
[11:10] <gordonjcp> crolle17: stupid question, but you *did* close all your browser windows and restart it after you installed the plugins?
[11:11] <Newbie_Dude> netyire : I can hear you but I don't think you hear me in the private chat
[11:11] <shack> stefg: just realised that
[11:11] <ari_stress> I LOVE UBUNTU!!! WOW! IT ROCKS!
[11:11] <ari_stress> :D
[11:11] <ernst> giga
[11:11] <Newbie_Dude> @ netyire : I'm unregistered so you can't hear me, sorry.
[11:11] <xhaan> :0
[11:11] <crolle17> gordonjcp, yes i did.
[11:11] <shack> stefg: you don't happen to know answer to my question? how to list all users/group their information in terminal
[11:12] <Nuktar>  I LOVE UBUNTU!!! WOW! IT ROCKS!  Yea, Canonical can award you..
[11:12] <crolle17> gordonjcp, although i didn't restart the system.
[11:12] <stefg> shack: but you can run cat /etc/passwd | grep /bin/bash as a temporar hack ... but that's not the proper way
[11:12] <netyire> Newbie_Dude, whoops sorry. Okay, edit the .bashrc file
[11:12] <akos> Hello... I'm still struggling to make my WLAN work... any gurus that could help me? I need the iwl4965 driver, i've compiled the module, but when I load it, I get kernell OOPS-es, and now that kernel won't load...
[11:12] <_Codeman_> Nuktar: Excited?
[11:12] <Ex-Cyber> Nuktar: Dillo is not based on any popular browser engine; it's an enhanced version of an engine from an older abandoned browser project... I think it uses GTK 1.2 as its toolkit
[11:12] <Newbie_Dude> @ Ex-Cyber - Do I need libncursesw5-dev as well as libncurses5-dev?
[11:12] <shack> stefg: I'll try thanks
[11:12] <ari_stress> Nuktar: i'm a redhat/suse admin all these years. i've just exploring ubuntu for a month, and so far i loveeeeee it
[11:12] <Newbie_Dude> @netyire - OK, I'll edit it now, TY.
[11:13] <Ex-Cyber> Newbie_Dude: I'm not sure
[11:13] <Newbie_Dude> @Ex-Cyber - Guess it wouldn't hurt to grab both. :)
[11:13] <xhaan> stefg, theres another way to do it?
[11:13] <stefg> xhaan: if i'd knew, i'd tell
[11:13] <Nuktar> I do kinda like it, but i've tried so many distros i don't know what to choose>
[11:13] <Newbie_Dude> !register | Newbie_Dude
[11:13] <shack> stefg: that helped a little bit thanks again
[11:14] <Nuktar> I'm burning a Fedora 7 LiveCD now..
[11:14] <ari_stress> Nuktar: so you're still haven;t make up your decision?
[11:14] <xhaan> stefg, i was going to say the same but i figured there was a better way lol
[11:14] <netyire> !register | netyire
[11:14] <Spaceman3750> stefg: fsck failed with an exit status of 4
[11:14] <_Codeman_> !register | _Codeman_
[11:14] <ari_stress> !register | ari_stress
[11:15] <akos> !register |  axos88
[11:15] <ubotu> axos88: Information about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration
[11:15] <Newbie_Dude> Why everyone registering all of a sudden? lol...
[11:15] <shack> stefg: what does that 100:105 mean?
[11:15] <Nuktar> I don't know/ There are things I like in each distro... Still ubuntu does rock. I'll try something else and I'll return to ubuntu 7.10
[11:15] <akos> well, i was curious what it was about :p
[11:15] <ari_stress> Newbie_Dude: i don't know :))
[11:15] <stefg> shack: looks like uid/gid
[11:15] <netyire> Nuktar, what is Fedora 7 like?
[11:15] <Newbie_Dude> @akos - let's us private message other registered members
[11:15] <ari_stress> ubuntu 7.10 has been released? wow so fast
[11:15] <_Codeman_> I just wanted to know what it said about registering lol
[11:15] <Nuktar>  !register | nuktar
[11:15] <shack> what's gid?
[11:15] <netyire> !gid
[11:15] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about gid - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:15] <xhaan> group id
[11:16] <stefg> Spaceman3750: got you, let me look
[11:16] <akos> Newbie_Dude, ?
[11:16] <shack> thanks guys
[11:16] <Nuktar> I don't know, i just downloaded it.
[11:16] <Spaceman3750> stefg: Thanks :)
[11:16] <akos> Hello... I'm still struggling to make my WLAN work... any gurus that could help me? I need the iwl4965 driver, i've compiled the module, but when I load it, I get kernel OOPS-es, and now that kernel won't load... what can I do?
[11:17] <shack> That's all I needed to know, BIG hand to ya all!
[11:17] <Newbie_Dude> @akos - whoops i meant to type another name sorry :p
[11:17] <skollie> akos: seems like you hurt your kernel. Can you boot into an earlier version?
[11:17] <ari_stress> akos: doesnt there;s a menu for loading windows driver from ubuntu?
[11:17] <Newbie_Dude> @Ex-Cyber, netyire - I got Doomsday compiled, I had to get those "CURSE" libs. Thanks again both of you.
[11:17] <akos> well i am now under a newer kernel that they said they don't support here, luckily i didn't delete it
[11:17] <emgeejay> hi everyone..
, no, i'll try its october final release...
[11:18] <stefg> Spaceman3750: oh... you're running from CD now?
[11:18] <xhaan> it can be handy to have spare kernels lying around ;)
[11:18] <akos> skollie, i am now under a debian kernel 2.6.21
[11:18] <Spaceman3750> stefg: Yes
[11:18] <hypertyper> hey, while i'm here... anyone know how to get my dell keyboard working properly? i'm typing on it, so it's not *broken*, but the volume knob doesn't do anything, and i miss it
[11:18] <akos> skollie, i should blacklist the module rihgt?
[11:19] <skollie> akos: is it installed in your current kernel?
[11:19] <akos> no
[11:19] <akos> skollie, no
[11:19] <emgeejay> anyone have luck getting native resolution to work via ubuntu on parallels?  fyi, i am on a mb pro 17
[11:19] <akio> how do i get the gstrreamer to work with FAAD?
[11:19] <skollie> akos: so then no need to blacklist if it's not installed
[11:19] <Nuktar> going to try Fedora 7 now.
[11:19] <stefg> Spaceman3750: ok... so i was misled to some extend. Now the missing root make sense
[11:19] <akos> okay, but then how to I boot back to that kernel?
[11:20] <akos> because system hangs if I try to boot
[11:20] <stefg> Spaceman3750: so get a terminal, and 'sudo -s#
[11:20] <stefg> Spaceman3750: so get a terminal, and 'sudo -s'
[11:20] <Spaceman3750> stefg: Sorry I wasn't clear enough
[11:20] <skollie> akos: the earlier one?
[11:20] <Spaceman3750> stefg: which one?
[11:20] <CVirus> Anyone got hylafax working with ubuntu ?
[11:20] <stefg> Spaceman3750: Application-accessories-terminal
[11:21] <akos> skollie, yes, but when I mentioned yesterday to guys here on ubuntu that I have a custom kernel, they stopped supporting me
[11:21] <Spaceman3750> stefg: No, I mean which command
[11:21] <netyire> hmm, anyone know how to get a list of channels?
[11:21] <stefg> Spaceman3750: sudo -s
[11:21] <akos> skollie, they said that unless I go back to the feistys kernel, they won't help me
[11:21] <Spaceman3750> stefg: K
[11:21] <stefg> Spaceman3750: you're looking at a root prompt now, don't you?
[11:21] <skollie> akos: yes, because it's difficult to support custom kernels since we don't know how it has been customised
[11:22] <Spaceman3750> stefg: Yes
[11:22] <stefg> Spaceman3750: umount /dev/hda2
[11:22] <akos> skollie, yea, and I totally understand that... Now I am under the custom kernel, and I would like to boot back to the standard one, but can't
[11:22] <Spaceman3750> stefg: Roger
[11:22] <stefg> Spaceman3750: fsck /dev/hda2
[11:22] <badkitty> sup stefg
[11:23] <Spaceman3750> stefg: root@ubuntu:~# unmount /dev/hda2
[11:23] <Spaceman3750> bash: unmount: command not found
[11:23] <emgeejay> anyone here using parallels on a mac?
[11:23] <skollie> akos: if the original feisty kernel is damaged and won't boot, you might have to reinstall
[11:23] <Lo_Pan> \
[11:23] <xhaan> Spaceman3750, its umount, not unmount
[11:23] <stefg> Spaceman3750: not unmount , *umount*
[11:23] <Newbie_Dude> Figures, got the program compiled but can't find where the executable is. >_< hate being a newbie
[11:23] <Spaceman3750> stefg: Whoops, sorry :P
[11:23] <akos> skollie, i think it won't boot becuase it tries to load the kernel module at boot time... is there a way to prevent that?
[11:24] <Spaceman3750> stefg: umount: /dev/hda2: not mounted
[11:24] <stefg> unix' biggest quirk... naming that umount
[11:24] <Frogzoo_> akos: sudo apt-get install linux-generic
[11:24] <Spaceman3750> stefg: Is it safe to continue?
[11:24] <skollie> Newbie_Dude: try whereis program
[11:24] <akos> Frogzoo_, if i'm using amd64 then linux-amd64?
[11:24] <stefg> Spaceman3750: yes... you can only fsck unmounted drives
[11:24] <Spaceman3750> OK, fscking
[11:24] <skollie> akos: probably not, unless you can get to the kernel itself
[11:25] <akos> skollie, for amd64 do I do an aptitude install linux-amd64?
[11:25] <Ex-Cyber> stefg: well, there's also the creat() syscall as noted by the man himself :P
[11:25] <Spaceman3750> stefg: Inodes that were part of a corrupted orphan linked list found.  Fix<y>?
[11:25] <FMN> Hi. I have some problems with eclipse installation under ubuntu.
[11:25] <FMN> When I try to run the ./eclipse file the error is shown
[11:25] <FMN> misha@test-suite:~$ eclipse
[11:25] <FMN> bash: /usr/local/bin/eclipse: No such file or directory
[11:25] <FMN> misha@test-suite:~$ ls -l /usr/local/bin/eclipse
[11:25] <FMN> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 26 2007-07-14 12:15 /usr/local/bin/eclipse -> /usr/local/eclipse/eclipse
[11:25] <FMN> misha@test-suite:~$ ls -l /usr/local/eclipse
[11:25] <FMN> total 436
[11:25] <FMN> ...
[11:25] <FMN> -rwxr-xr-x  1 root root  29128 2006-09-21 19:07 eclipse
[11:25] <bullgard4> /usr/src/linux-source-source-2.6.20/Documentation/kobject.txt writes: "The kobject infrastructure performs basic object management that larger data  structures and subsystems can leverage, rather than reimplement similar functionality." For what stands 'k' in 'kobject'?
[11:25] <FMN> ...
[11:26] <stefg> Spaceman3750: y
[11:26] <skollie> akos: not sure.
[11:26] <Spaceman3750> stefg: Inode 4145159 was part of the orphaned inode list.  FIXED.
[11:26] <Spaceman3750> Inode 4145160 was part of the orphaned inode list.  FIXED.
[11:26] <Spaceman3750> Inode 4145161 was part of the orphaned inode list.  FIXED.
[11:26] <akos> no, aptitude search says it was obsoleted
[11:26] <skollie> !install | akos
[11:26] <ubotu> akos: Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues - See also !automate
[11:26] <akos> wait, I'll reboot now
[11:26] <Spaceman3750> stefg: Now it's just sitting there....
[11:27] <stefg> Spaceman3750: might take some time, doing calculations. are you back to the prompt?
[11:27] <Spaceman3750> stefg: Block bitmap differences:  -8308736 -8308744 -8308752
[11:27] <Spaceman3750> Fix<y>?
[11:27] <Spaceman3750> stefg: It started going again
[11:28] <illriginal> Uh... DelugeTorrent will not load up.... how can I fix this?
[11:28] <bullgard4> My computer contains 40 files with 'hwmon' in its name but a kernel module 'hwmon' is not loaded. Can one explain to me the concept of 'hwmon'?
[11:28] <stefg> Spaceman3750: don't paste all the messages... and just say yes if you're asked to fix
[11:28] <Spaceman3750> stefg: OK
[11:29] <stefg> Spaceman3750: and a two pass run is normal in that situation
[11:29] <skollie> bullgard4: have you googled hwmon?
[11:29] <Spaceman3750> stefg: I'm back at the prompt
[11:29] <bullgard4> skollie: Yes. And can you answer my question?
[11:29] <stefg> Spaceman3750: ok..now :  mount /dev/hda2 /mnt .. errors?
[11:29] <skollie> bullgard4: no, that's why I asked if you googled it
[11:30] <Spaceman3750> stefg: Negative, no errors
[11:31] <stefg> Spaceman3750: right, now let me have a look at the menu.lst and fstab /of the installed/ system ... this is pastebin the output of cat /mnt/etc/fstab and /mnt/boot/grub/menu.lst
[11:32] <FusE> skollie should I get ndiswrapper
[11:32] <cerda> help i cant get back into ubuntu its at a  blue screen somthing about x server
[11:32] <akio> does gstreamer play mp4's?
[11:32] <Spaceman3750> stefg: Standby
[11:33] <akio> AAC?
[11:33] <skollie> fuse: only if you need it for your device
[11:33] <Spaceman3750> stefg: My Linux partion isn't listed...
[11:33] <cerda> can anyone help
[11:33] <stefg> Spaceman3750: listed where?
[11:33] <skollie> fuse: did you need ndiswrapper when running Edgy?
[11:33] <akos> Okay, I've rebooted to the old kernel
[11:33] <jatt> cerda: Ctrl+Alt+Backspace
[11:33] <Spaceman3750> stefg: In my computer panel
[11:34] <FusE> when runninng dapper, no
[11:34] <akos> skollie,
[11:34] <Spaceman3750> stefg: I have my Windows partition, and the filesystem for the live CD
[11:34] <Spaceman3750> stefg: But no hda2
[11:34] <stefg> Spaceman3750: that's normal... we're having it at /mnt now, so we're bypassing the gui
[11:34] <cerda> jatt wats that do
[11:35] <rajat> can any body help me in ssh forwarding
[11:35] <Spaceman3750> stefg: So then I need to pull up the files via the terminal
[11:35] <jatt> cerda: restarts your X server
[11:35] <stefg> Spaceman3750: so you look at your linux partition when you open /mnt
[11:35] <Spaceman3750> stefg: gedit OK?
[11:35] <akos> skollie, I've read some doc about making an entry into  /etc/modprobe.d/blacklists, and it worked
[11:35] <skollie> akos ?
[11:35] <xhaan> cerda, what did you do before that happened? sounds like you broke xorg or xorg.conf
[11:35] <Nuktar> Autologin root user, is that possible?
[11:35] <skollie> akos: in the old kernel, I assume?
[11:35] <cerda> somthin for beryl
[11:35] <Nuktar> I kinda need this!
[11:35] <hak5fan> Hi how can I reinstall grub to mbr.... I was unable to boot into xubuntu, grub error 17,but I managed to do it with a boot disk.... now how do I fix my problem
[11:35] <stefg> Spaceman3750: whatever floats your boat. so gedit /mnt/etc/fstab and gedit /mnt/boot/grub/menu.lst
[11:35] <cerda> can it be fixed?
[11:35] <akos> skollie, it doesn't matter what kernel you are under when  editing files...
[11:35] <FusE> when runninng dapper, no skollie
[11:36] <xhaan> your xorg conf likely has an error in it, did you make a backup of it?
[11:36] <Spaceman3750> stefg: K
[11:36] <Mitchbbaker> hello
[11:36] <towlieban> can someone please help me
[11:36] <cerda> not sure
[11:36] <cerda> i dont think so
[11:36] <xhaan> cerda, yeah its fixable if you undo what you changed
[11:36] <towlieban> i need to install a slightly older version of a package
[11:37] <Mitchbbaker> i am having a propblem installing ubuntu 7.04 its the first time i am trying linux
[11:37] <cerda> yea, but i needa get into it to do that first
[11:37] <Mitchbbaker> *problem
[11:37] <Spaceman3750> stefg: fstab - http://pastebin.com/m2725fe39
[11:37] <xhaan> cerda, or find why theres an error and correct it
[11:37] <stefg> !pinning | towlieban
[11:37] <ubotu> towlieban: pinning is an advanced feature that APT can use to prefer particular packages over others. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PinningHowto
[11:37] <xhaan> cerda, you could try recovery mode to edit your xorg.conf
[11:37] <rajat> hey can someone help me with port forwarding
 what kind of problem
[11:38] <sunrises> hi all, are sd cards with all2usb adapter supported?
[11:38] <cerda> xhaan ill try that
[11:38] <rajat> plzzz reply
[11:38] <Mitchbbaker> when i try to install it says it can't find tty and that job management is suspended
[11:38] <Spaceman3750> stefg: menu.lst - http://pastebin.com/d3738523a
[11:38] <Mitchbbaker> thein i am left in a propmt
[11:38] <stefg> Spaceman3750: k
[11:38] <Mitchbbaker> *then
[11:38] <xhaan> cerda its non gui though, youll have to use command line til you fix xorg
[11:38] <Nuktar> how did you get the ubuntu cd
[11:38] <Spaceman3750> Can I get out of the root terminal yet?
[11:38] <hypertyper> rajat: are we talking ipchains, iptables, external router?
[11:38] <skollie> fuse: I thought you were running Edgy and then upgraded to Feisty?
[11:38] <Mitchbbaker> i downloaded it from the first site from google
[11:38] <Mitchbbaker> and burnt the iso to disk
[11:39] <cerda> well, it says mygraphical interface is not set up correctly
[11:39] <Nuktar> disk error
[11:39] <stefg> Spaceman3750: ok, looks good. try to boot the installed system
[11:39] <Nuktar> try "check cd for defects"
[11:39] <Mitchbbaker> it has happened before.. what do you reccomend?
[11:39] <Spaceman3750> stefg: Great, will let you know :)
[11:39] <Mitchbbaker> ok ill give that a go
[11:39] <Nuktar> if errors, burn it again, at lower speed
[11:39] <Mitchbbaker> ok will do
[11:40] <xhaan> cerda, probably an error or wrong setting in xorg conf
[11:40] <Mitchbbaker> i will have to go i am installing it on this machine on a second HDD
[11:40] <hypertyper> Mitchbbaker: i had the same issue. best bet is to download 3.4, instead of 3.3
[11:40] <Mitchbbaker> 3.4?
[11:40] <Mitchbbaker> i have 7.04 according to the site
[11:40] <xhaan> thats easy to happen when trying to use compiz or beryl
[11:40] <akos> skollie, I tried following the instructions on the forums to the letter, and my wlan card doesn't work. It's an Intel 4965 abgn card
[11:40] <hypertyper> Mitchbbaker: nm, sorry.. wrong os <sheepish grin>
[11:40] <Mitchbbaker> hypertyper: lol ok
[11:40] <Mitchbbaker> np
[11:40] <Mitchbbaker> i will come back after i have tried it ta
[11:40] <Nuktar> ok
[11:40] <akos> skollie, 03:00.0 Network controller: Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 4965 AG or AGN Network Connection (rev 61)
[11:41] <Nuktar> a lightweight linux browser, again?
[11:41] <skollie> akos: post the link to the instructions, not the instructions themselves
[11:41] <stefg> !info links2 | Nuktar
[11:41] <ubotu> nuktar: links2: Web browser running in both graphics and text mode. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.1pre26-4build1 (feisty), package size 2011 kB, installed size 3224 kB
[11:41] <Nuktar> not mozilla based
[11:41] <hypertyper> Nuktar:  how lightweight do you want it? and what's wrong with lynx?
[11:41] <akos> skollie, wait, I'll have to search for them, as I did them last night
[11:42] <recoy^> hello!
[11:42] <stefg> !info dillo | Nuktar
[11:42] <ubotu> nuktar: dillo: Small and fast web browser. In component universe, is extra. Version 0.8.5-4.1ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 354 kB, installed size 956 kB
[11:43] <recoy^> i know this question may sound very n00b but is there some kind of keyboard command to switch between workspaces?
[11:43] <Nuktar> giving a try to links2, then i'll try dillo
[11:43] <MatthewV> recoy^, ctrl + alt + left or right
[11:43] <Nuktar> thanks !
[11:43] <recoy^> MatthewV: thanks
[11:43] <Spaceman3750> stefg: That worked, thanks! :D:D
[11:43] <stefg> Nuktar: but dillo can't handle js and frame support is flaky
[11:43] <recoy^> MatthewV: omg that makes things so much better
[11:43] <Nuktar> no prob
[11:44] <MatthewV> recoy^, :) no probs
[11:44] <Spaceman3750> stefg: So if it happens in the future, boot to the live CD, get a root terminal, unmount the Linux partition, run fsck on it, and remount?
[11:45] <stefg> Spaceman3750: yeah, if you feel comfortable with a gui. the usual way is to boot to recovery mode
[11:45] <cerda> hey xhaan if i give you the link to wat i did, can you help?
[11:46] <Spaceman3750> stefg: I am more comfortable with a gui than with command-line
[11:46] <Spaceman3750> I'm new to Ubuntu, coming from Windows, and as you probably know there is very little that you do from Windows that doesn't have a GUI
[11:46] <stefg> Spaceman3750: and to trigger a forced fsck all you need is to put an empty file called forcefsck in the root of that drive. 'sudo touch /forcefsck' does that for your root drive
[11:46] <xhaan> cerda, i duno if i can, but i can look anyways :0
[11:46] <akos> skollie, I found them: http://kuscsik.blogspot.com/2007/06/how-to-install-intel-4965-wireless.html
[11:46] <Spaceman3750> stefg: It forced an fsck on bootup, but it failed
[11:47] <cerda> http://lhansen.blogspot.com/2006/10/3d-desktop-beryl-and-xgl-on-ubuntu-edgy.html
[11:47] <skollie> akos: having a look now
[11:48] <akos> skollie, ok, thanks
[11:48] <lungan> Hello, is there any ircbased msn client for ubuntu?
[11:48] <Nuktar> gaim
[11:48] <stefg> !gaim
[11:48] <ubotu> Instant Messenger Clients: Gaim (GNOME, http://help.ubuntu.com/community/GaimHowto), Kopete (KDE), both supporting MSN, Jabber, AIM, Gadu-Gadu, Novell Groupwise, ICQ and IRC.
[11:49] <lungan> gaim, i want that simple look like xchat, is that possible in gaim?
[11:49] <skollie> akos: seems booting problems after following the instructions is a common problem, so maybe not such a good idea?
[11:49] <akos> yea, but it's the only one I found
[11:50] <akos> everything i found linked to this one
[11:50] <Nuktar> ok, links2 is kinda hard or weird for me
[11:50] <xhaan> cerda, your fglrx driver may not have installed correctly
[11:50] <lungan> Another question i have, is that possible to get transparency in ubuntu feisty?
[11:50] <tarzeau> Nuktar: why?
[11:50] <tarzeau> Nuktar: tried it with -g ?
[11:50] <cerda> xhaan, wat can i do?
[11:50] <tarzeau> Nuktar: once you find the f9 menu and use the shortcut keys it's very effective
[11:50] <Nuktar> how can i run it alone, without the terminal
[11:50] <xhaan> cerda, try going into xorg.conf and change fglrx back to what it was before and see if it works then
[11:51] <tarzeau> Nuktar: links2 -g
[11:51] <xhaan> fglrx can be hard to get to work
[11:51] <tarzeau> xhaan: not really
[11:51] <tarzeau> xhaan: unless on non-i386
[11:51] <skollie> akos: sorry, cannot be of more help
[11:51] <akos> skollie, do you know another way?
[11:52] <akos> :( ok
[11:52] <Nuktar> After all that years spent on IE, Firefox or Opera I think i loose my skill :-()
[11:52] <skollie> akos: a new wireless device that you know will work?
[11:52] <xhaan> tarzeau, lots of people have had problems with it, myself included :0
[11:52] <akos> does somebody else had any luck installing or could help me install an Intel 4965 AGN wirless carc?
[11:52] <akos> skollie, laptop
[11:52] <tarzeau> xhaan: i automated it, http://debian.ethz.ch/d-i/fglrx-driver
[11:53] <skollie> akos: aah! doesn't help, does it?
[11:53] <Nuktar> what about amaya? has anyone tried it?
[11:53] <ozzman> Hi, which irc client is recommended for Ubuntu?
[11:53] <tarzeau> Nuktar: yuck :)
[11:53] <tarzeau> Nuktar: that's REALLY old, i dobut anyone uses it seriously
[11:53] <lungan> ozzman , i think xchat is very nice
[11:53] <tarzeau> ozzman: i like irssi-text a lot
[11:53] <ingo_> ozzman: your can try bitchx
[11:53] <xhaan> tarzeau, cool script :0
[11:53] <akos> skollie, :((
[11:53] <LabThug> does ubuntu offer daily snapshots for download?
[11:53] <tarzeau> xhaan: the nvidia-driver is much better
[11:53] <akos> nope
[11:54] <akos> :)
[11:54] <tarzeau> xhaan: we've got like 50 nvidia cards on our workstations.
[11:54] <Nuktar> it's updated on july 10
[11:54] <tarzeau> xhaan: the ati drivers/graphics cards are just not stable, or buggy
[11:54] <broedje> what tool do i need to cycle through X windows with ALT-TAB like in Windows?
[11:54] <skollie> akos: maybe a new laptop? <smile>
[11:54] <Nuktar> i think it's a new version
[11:54] <xhaan> tarzeau, yeah they are
[11:54] <akos> skollie, sure, I'll buy one with my lunch money :)
[11:55] <cerda> xhaan, wen i checked wat you told me it was already ati, so i rebooted, and it works
[11:55] <recoy^> can someone help me with a workspace problem everytime i swap workspaces i get a blank wallpaper and i lock up
[11:55] <tarzeau> xhaan: you know what script is really cool? :)
[11:55] <ozzman> i need to fined a channel for GPS any one have an idea?
[11:55] <lungan> Is it any msn client or addon to xchat so i can get a irc lookalike msn?
[11:55] <Urban> :q
[11:55] <tarzeau> xhaan: this http://www.linuks.mine.nu/ubuntu/uncurse
[11:55] <xhaan> cerda, at least i was close lol
[11:55] <Urban> ah..
[11:55] <xhaan> cerda, glad it works now
[11:55] <cerda> thanks alot tho
[11:55] <Urban> q
[11:55] <cerda> btw, how can i install beryl
[11:55] <Mitchbbaker> ok i did what you said
[11:56] <Mitchbbaker> and it came up with the same error
[11:56] <sdloo> so mal ne runde mit nem hund gehen baba
[11:56] <Mitchbbaker> so i am reburning
[11:56] <xhaan> tarzeau, whoa, nice
[11:57] <hypertyper> what does "sk8135-pcm.c:34:20: error: stdlib.h: No such file or directory" mean?
[11:57] <xhaan> cerda, i never installed beryl before, just compiz
[11:57] <recoy^> im sorry i got kicked did anyone answer my question?
[11:57] <kuukkeli> is there possibility to change from kubuntu to ubuntu?
[11:58] <hypertyper> or rather, i know it means i don't have something.... but i don't know what, and i don't know what to do to get it
[11:58] <kuukkeli> because i lost my ubuntu cd and ordered ubuntu then kubuntu but kubuntu came first. :-/
[11:58] <Amak> Hi
[11:58] <recoy^> im having problems swapping workspaces everytime i do i get a blank wallpaper with no icons and my compy locks up
[11:59] <kuukkeli> soo... is there possibility to change from kubuntu to ubuntu?
[11:59] <hypertyper> recoy^: i just had that same problem!
[11:59] <cerda> xhaan, i just checked that out right now, it looks tite
[11:59] <Mitchbbaker> hmm i see Nuktar is gone
[11:59] <recoy^> hypertyper: really?
[11:59] <tarzeau> kuukkeli: yes
[11:59] <hypertyper> recoy^: try disabling desktop effects
[11:59] <recoy^> ...=(
[11:59] <hypertyper> recoy^: that worked for me
[11:59] <recoy^> hypertyper: but i want them arg
[11:59] <Amak> I'm trying to wget http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/webadmin/webmin_1.350_all.deb, but it keeps timing out. However my ubuntu server is on the network and can ping out fine.
[11:59] <CppIsWeird> if im in the middle of a full screen game, is there a way to minimize it? like when i used to play starcraft in windows i would just press the windows button on the keyboard or alt+tab.
[11:59] <hypertyper> you might consider another effects package? beryl, or compiz...?
[12:00] <Amak> was wondering if someone has some idea's?
[12:00] <recoy^> hypertyper: ya that fixed it but it was working fine
[12:00] <flaccid_> !webmin
[12:00] <ubotu> webmin is no longer supported in Debian and Ubuntu. Please avoid using it.
[12:00] <Amak> ah my bad.
[12:00] <tarzeau> CppIsWeird: some sdl games support alt-enter
[12:00] <LabThug> ok, if there are no daily snapshots of ubuntu, where do I get the gibbon betas?
[12:00] <CppIsWeird> but if the game doesnt specifically support it?
[12:00] <tarzeau> CppIsWeird: bad luck, ctrl-alt-f1
[12:00] <Amak> Ok, is there an alternative to webmin?
[12:00] <CppIsWeird> i tried the alt+crtl keys... they wont go anywhere
[12:00] <flaccid_> how to change jre/jvm used by system? update-alternatives or something. just installed sun java 6
[12:01] <kuukkeli> tarzeau, how? =P
[12:01] <recoy^> hypertyper: ty
[12:01] <LabThug> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily/current/  <-- nm, there are the daily builds
[12:01] <tarzeau> kuukkeli: apt-get install kde?
[12:02] <kuukkeli> tarzeau, did ubuntu use KDE?
[12:02] <hypertyper> anyone feel like helping me compile this app i downloaded to make my keyboard work properly? i'd be very grateful
[12:02] <tarzeau> kuukkeli: i'm not sure
[12:02] <kuukkeli> i thought i used gnome. :D
[12:02] <tarzeau> kuukkeli: debian has them all
[12:02] <trekkme> how do i crate a .deb pacjage from a tar ball, so i can easily uninstall it to a leter time?
[12:02] <tarzeau> kuukkeli: they might have it in their extra repos or #kubuntu?
[12:02] <tarzeau> trekkme: www.linuks.mine.nu/irc/debian-packaging/
[12:03] <kuukkeli> tarzeau, yeah kubuntu uses KDE
[12:03] <kuukkeli> so do i "sudo apt-get install gnome" ?
[12:03] <kuukkeli> ubuntu uses gnome
[12:03] <jonathan_> hello
[12:03] <hypertyper> kuukkeli: out of curiosity, why do you want to switch?
[12:04] <BlackDesign> Hi, could someone please help me, I've got an error 21 while loading Grub
[12:04] <magnetron> kuukkeli: to add gnome to a kubuntu install, install the package ubuntu-desktop
[12:04] <BlackDesign> I've had that in the past, and the strange thing was... when I just rebooted, it was gone
[12:04] <lungan> How do i get transparency in ubuntu? like n the terminals and so on
[12:04] <BlackDesign> now it keeps saying this
[12:05] <BlackDesign> lungan, in the terminal its easy
[12:05] <dawn`chorus> lungan, for terminal, edit> preferences.
[12:05] <BlackDesign> there you go :p
[12:05] <rymblock> hi
[12:05] <BlackDesign> but anyone here who can help me with that grub prob?
[12:06] <dawn`chorus> BlackDesign, what's the error?  sorry, i wasn't here.
[12:06] <hypertyper> BlackDesign: you might try "Super Grub Disk", it helped me out earlier when my grub got harfed by installing windows on another disk...
[12:06] <lungan> Just found it, i'm now searching for a irc lookalike client
[12:06] <lungan> for msn
[12:06] <BlackDesign> yes, but I can't enter my linux now
[12:06] <BlackDesign> it doesn't load the grub so...
[12:07] <BlackDesign> I read something about reinstalling the grub through Live cd
[12:07] <akos> Yey, I just got ndiswrapper to install, but it says harsware present:no .... huh?
[12:07] <BlackDesign> but I don't know how
[12:07] <BlackDesign> The strange thing is, I didn't reinstall windows or somehting...
[12:07] <BlackDesign> sometimes it worked, other times it gave that error...
[12:07] <BlackDesign> so I used to reset the computer and it was gone
[12:07] <BlackDesign> now it keeps appearing
[12:08] <xhaan> BlackDesign, did you do anything different between when it worked and when it didnt?
[12:08] <cerda> xhaan, sorry for bothering you so much, but i downloaded the compiz, but idk much about ubuntu, wat do i use to install, like a exe or wat
[12:08] <BlackDesign> nope
[12:08] <hypertyper> BlackDesign: that's what i was referring to. "Super Grub Disk" is an iso image you can burn to cd. boot from it, and it automagically fixes grub.
[12:08] <ozzman> off the topics... i am looking for a GPS channel any one know of 1?
[12:08] <BlackDesign> aha
[12:08] <BlackDesign> that sounds nice
[12:09] <xhaan> cerda, its similar to how you installed beryl, youll probably have to search for a howto
[12:09] <akos> Hey, anyone who could help me with a problem with ndiswrapper? it cannot find my hardware
[12:09] <cerda> xhaan, ok thx
[12:09] <lui4> !beryl
[12:09] <ubotu> beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. Help in #ubuntu-effects
[12:09] <tondar> #c
[12:09] <lungan> IS there any terminal app for msn?
[12:10] <hypertyper> uboto: or perhaps #beryl ?
[12:10] <hypertyper> heh
[12:10] <flaccid_> tmsnc
[12:10] <flaccid_> !info tmsnc
[12:10] <ubotu> tmsnc: textbased (console) MSN client. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.3.2-1 (feisty), package size 48 kB, installed size 148 kB
[12:10] <lui4> lungan you mean a text bassed messenger?
[12:10] <xhaan> BlackDesign, it seems weird that it works and then doesnt... is the drive itself in good shape? did you try mounting it using a live cd to see if its working?
[12:10] <BlackDesign> well, it always worked so...
[12:10] <BlackDesign> how do I mount it fast then?
[12:11] <BlackDesign> I'm now in Live cd action :p
[12:11] <lui4> BlackDesign sexy
[12:11] <BlackDesign> when I open Nautilus, I can see both of my hard drives
[12:11] <BlackDesign> so, that seems ok... no?
[12:12] <xhaan> open a terminal and do: sudo mount /dev/hda /directory     change the hda to the name of the drive and /directory to where you want it mounted
[12:12] <pubo2> Hi all
[12:13] <xhaan> BlackDesign, oh, didnt see your message there
[12:13] <BlackDesign> np
[12:13] <cerda> does ubuntu suport .exe?
[12:14] <xhaan> cerda, not natively
[12:14] <rymblock> I need some assistance with my Cedega, when I install a game, it says about a winex3 startup script unable to find, and , installed, game dsnt work :(
[12:14] <cerda> wat kan  i use to make it suport it
[12:14] <hypertyper> rymblock: have you tried cedega's support?
[12:14] <xhaan> cerda, wine might work
[12:15] <xhaan> or cedega
[12:15] <Newbie_Dude> Is there a trial version of Cedega?
[12:15] <rymblock> yeah, tried a lot
[12:15] <rymblock> thats why im here, :/
[12:15] <BlackDesign> I'll try that super grub thing first... will be back in a jiffy
[12:15] <hypertyper> lol, understood
[12:15] <compengi> if i want to connect to a computer through ssh that is on a network network under 1 real ip, is there a way i could connect to him specifying his real and virtual ip to be able to connect to his pc?
[12:15] <magnetron> Newbie_Dude: in many cases, wine works better. try that
[12:15] <bullgard4> My computer contains 40 files with 'hwmon' in its name but a kernel module 'hwmon' is not loaded. Can one explain to me the concept of 'hwmon'?
[12:16] <magnetron> Newbie_Dude: if you are looking for support for cedega, ask the company that sell it
[12:16] <rymblock> I know, Im using wine, but Eve online only works in Cedega ( cpp gives me cedega support in game )
[12:16] <Newbie_Dude> @magnetron : OK... I'm hesitant about Cedega anyway, I haven't even tried the program yet and it is already asking me for money.
[12:16] <shafire> hi i installed ubungu today, it's very nice, but i don't like ubungu so much...:( the fonts are really ugly
[12:16] <rymblock> but .. I have problems with instalation I think
[12:16] <hypertyper> cerda: open synaptic (menu:System, Administration, Synaptic Package Manager) and hit the search button on the right side after it loads. type in "wine" and hit enter, select the package when it appears
[12:16] <magnetron> rymblock: eve online works in wine
[12:17] <rymblock> you sure? I only get the initial splash screem
[12:17] <cerda> hypertyper, thx
[12:17] <bullgard4> /usr/src/linux-source-source-2.6.20/Documentation/kobject.txt writes: "The kobject infrastructure performs basic object management that larger data  structures and subsystems can leverage, rather than reimplement similar functionality." For what stands 'k' in 'kobject'?
[12:17] <pubo2> Please, I need some help. I've been using Ubuntu since Hedgehog. Recently I tried to install install festy on an Acer Aspire 3000. When it starts the instalation in X-Window mode, everything goes perfect, but after the installation has finished, the mouse jumps each few seconds. It's very annoying
[12:17] <pubo2> somebody can help me?
[12:17] <shafire> hi i installed ubungu today, it's very nice, but i don't like ubungu so much...:( the fonts are really ugly
[12:17] <Frogzoo_> shafire: so change the fonts - sys -> prefs -> fonts   also, on lcd, enable sub pixel rendering
[12:17] <rymblock> hypertyper, I thouth about cedega is wine with directx support
[12:17] <magnetron> rymblock: it works in wine, but i'm not sure it works in cedega. http://appdb.winehq.org/appview.php?iVersionId=8291
[12:17] <shafire> Frogzoo_: thx
[12:18] <hypertyper> rymblock: cedega is wine with some extra tweaks
[12:18] <magnetron> rymblock: it isn't. cedega and wine are fundamentally different products, cedega lack a lot of the features of wine.
[12:18] <rymblock> m... im reading the cedega game db and works, anyways, im trying simply wine too
[12:19] <Newbie_Dude> Installing Wine now. :) I hope it runs my roommates "Snood" game, I've been getting a lot of hassle over it the past few days. :P
[12:19] <magnetron> if you want to know if a game or app works in wine, see http://appdb.winehq.org
[12:19] <rymblock> ok, starting wine now,
[12:19] <Spaceman3750> msg Newbie_Dude How was another day on Ubuntu? :P
[12:19] <Spaceman3750> Crap
[12:19] <cerda> must i wait for the update manager to finish in order to run synaptic package manager?
[12:19] <rymblock> just .. splash screem .. and .. black window.
[12:19] <hypertyper> Newbie_Dude: snood rules!
[12:19] <xhaan> cerda, yup
[12:20] <magnetron> rymblock: the link i gave you have a howto
[12:20] <cerda> oic, well thx, ill be back tommorw for more help
[12:20] <Newbie_Dude> msg Spaceman3750 Going good so far, I'm glad I made the switch to Ubuntu but I tear my hair out when it comes to compiling stuff.
[12:20] <BlackDesign> ok, rebooting now... inserted that disk with super grub thingy on, hope it works
[12:20] <rymblock> ok thanks, im trying
[12:20] <BlackDesign> lol..., is it normal that now it loads my grub normal?
[12:20] <xhaan> BlackDesign, how do you mean?
[12:21] <hypertyper> i was about to ask that myself
[12:21] <BlackDesign> well, now the grub loaded when I rebooted :p^
[12:21] <magnetron> BlackDesign: you are surprised that it works?
[12:21] <m1r> hello
[12:21] <BlackDesign> yes... because that cd I just burned
[12:21] <BlackDesign> super grub
[12:21] <BlackDesign> never booted
[12:21] <hypertyper> BlackDesign: i think you may have a hardware issue. check to make sure your cables are fully inserted, and if your drive supports SMART, you may want to enable it
[12:21] <BlackDesign> and it showed my grub again
[12:22] <BlackDesign> is there any fix i can do to my grub file now I'm in?
[12:22] <HEP85> hi
[12:22] <HEP85> BlackDesign: what is your problem?
[12:22] <hypertyper> BlackDesign: also, check your bios to make sure you're set to boot from the cd first
[12:22] <xhaan> BlackDesign, if it's suddenly working then it likely isnt grub
[12:23] <BlackDesign> what else?
[12:23] <xhaan> BlackDesign, seems like either a hardware or bios thing to me
[12:24] <BlackDesign> I never had it with edgy or dapper
[12:25] <xhaan> BlackDesign, if it was grub itself it would seem that you'd get the problem every time
[12:25] <BlackDesign> yes, that's what I thought to
[12:26] <ivan> Hi All, i just tried to install ubuntu 7.04 on an asus laptop (f3ja), and X didn't start, the log says that no screens are found..
[12:27] <hypertyper> can anyone help me with the following error: sk8135-pcm.c:34:20: error: stdlib.h: No such file or directory ?
[12:27] <ivan> in xorg.conf the driver being used is vesa..
[12:27] <BlackDesign> back
[12:27] <ivan> which one should i be using to get X started up?
[12:28] <BlackDesign> I'll reinstall that grub anyway
[12:29] <BlackDesign> that might do something
[12:29] <xhaan> ivan, vesa should work with most cards except super old ones...
[12:29] <megatill> Hit3k, could someone explain me how can i start up unrealirc or eggdrop at login? runlevels... but i don't know how
[12:30] <ivan> i have a x1600
[12:30] <Traff> Any ideas as to why my Ubuntu installer or Gparted on Live CD will not see my existing partitions?
[12:30] <ivan> i checked the log once more and it is saying that hsync is out of range for all the modes
[12:30] <ivan> then it said that: screens found, but none have a usable configuration
[12:31] <ivan> can i install the the prop. driver from the live cd?
[12:32] <Mitchbbaker> hello
[12:32] <xhaan> ivan, im not sure if its on there, or if it would install properly if it were
[12:32] <Mitchbbaker> i am still having problems with my installation
[12:33] <xhaan> ivan, it sounds like you need to find the correct resolution and sync settings for your hardware
[12:33] <ivan> thats what i'm looking for right now in google, but alas, no success for now....
[12:33] <Mitchbbaker> when i try to install ubuntu 7.04 it says can't access tty job control turned off
[12:33] <Mitchbbaker> and dumps me in a prompt
[12:34] <kraut> moin
[12:34] <xhaan> ivan, do you know what the safe ranges are for your monitor?
[12:34] <ivan> no idea.....
[12:35] <HEP85> I got a problem with ntfs-3g. When I mount the partition manually it works okay. But with the automatic mount via /etc/fstab the user profile folder for example is missing.
[12:35] <xhaan> ivan, try to find the ones your monitor supports (mainly so you dont blow it up) and try putting in some different ones
[12:35] <Mitchbbaker> when i try to install ubuntu 7.04 it says can't access tty job control turned off
[12:35] <HEP85> Does somebody know why?
[12:36] <ivan> so i should try just putting in some generic ones?
[12:36] <ivan> could you give any hints on which to start with???
[12:36] <hypertyper> HEP85: am i parsing this correctly? you're missing folders when you mount with fstab, but not when you mount the same drive manually?
[12:36] <napster> hi. i have shared a folder on my network but all the other computers are running windows. they can c my computer but when they click on it they have to input a username and password so i put in mine but it doesnt work. wat do i have to do?
[12:36] <xhaan> ivan, yeah, you can just dont exceed the max of your monitor
[12:36] <hypertyper> ivan: you might try something sane, like 800x600 @ 60 hz
[12:36] <HEP85> hypertyper: exactly as you said
[12:37] <Mitchbbaker> brb
[12:37] <hypertyper> HEP85: weird. i haven't a clue.
[12:37] <HEP85> hypertyper: the folder missing are those with special permissions I guess
[12:37] <BlackDesign> I reinstalled the grub... didn't have the problem
[12:37] <stefg> !samba | napster
[12:37] <ubotu> napster: samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[12:37] <Mitchbbaker> ok
[12:37] <HEP85> sudo mount -t ntfs-3g /dev/sda2 /media/disk2
[12:37] <rymblock> hey, xD you right, I can log in eve server with Wine
[12:37] <hypertyper> HEP85: yeah, i noticed you mentioning that. i'm a windows tech, and if that were happening on an xp box, i'd suggest looking at security
[12:37] <Mitchbbaker> when i try to install ubuntu 7.04 it says can't access tty job control turned off
[12:37] <skulrid> hi
[12:38] <HEP85> in /etc/fstab: /dev/sda2 /media/disk2 ntfs-3g defaults 0 0
[12:38] <skulrid> when installing a program I get this : /usr/bin/install: missing destination file operand after `/usr/local/share/man/man1'  , what is the problem here?
[12:38] <LazyAngel> Hi! I have installed a new nvidia graphic card, but i cant get the driver and kernel to upgrade. So i cant start X with it. What do i have to do to reconfigure nvida to the new card? It seems like its stuck on the old settings
[12:38] <stefg> Mitchbbaker: waht hardware?
[12:38] <xhaan> BlackDesign, i hope its fixed then, itd be weird if that fixed it though
[12:38] <skulrid> folowed by make: *** [install]  Error 1
[12:38] <BlackDesign> yeah
[12:38] <Mitchbbaker> uh which ones do you want?
[12:38] <BlackDesign> think so too
[12:38] <BlackDesign> thx for the help guys!
[12:39] <BlackDesign> Now I just need to get that transparent menu in Beryl and I'm happy again :p
[12:39] <BlackDesign> Anyone who knows that?
[12:39] <hypertyper> HEP85: like i said... i'm a *windows* tech... i'm here for help too. your issue is a bit out of my league, sorry.
[12:39] <stefg> Mitchbbaker: motherboard /disk controllers ... just give make/model of your bix
[12:39] <HEP85> hypertyper: the strange thing is that it works with manual mounting. maybe it works because my linux password is the same like in windows?
[12:39] <Mitchbbaker> ok its a Dell optiplex gx240
[12:39] <hypertyper> BlackDesign: you might try asking for help in #beryl, if anyone's awake
[12:39] <Mitchbbaker> with upgraded vram to 32mb same type of card
[12:39] <BlackDesign> hypertyper, yeah, tried that yesterday... no one answered
[12:39] <hypertyper> HEP85: that may be a direction to look in, for sure
[12:40] <hypertyper> BlackDesign: yeah, it's kinda quiet over there right now... i'm guessing that's because it's somewhere between 4 and 8 am in the US
[12:40] <magnetron> BlackDesign: check out #ubuntu-effects
[12:40] <ivan> darn, 800x600@60 didn't work.. still no matching modes...
[12:40] <BlackDesign> magnetron, tried that one too yesterday... no one there :)
[12:40] <hypertyper> ivan: you might check the manufacturer's website for the specs
[12:41] <BlackDesign> will try again though
[12:41] <stefg> Mitchbbaker: have you checked the CD already?
[12:41] <hypertyper> BlackDesign: google?
[12:41] <Mitchbbaker> yes
[12:41] <magnetron> BlackDesign: 82 ppl there now
[12:41] <ivan> heh.. asus didn't put any good info for it... already checked that (actually first thing)
[12:41] <stefg> !verify | Mitchbbaker
[12:41] <ubotu> Mitchbbaker: To verify your Ubuntu ISO image (or other files for which an MD5 checksum is provided), see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/VerifyIsoHowto or http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows
[12:41] <Mitchbbaker> same thing came up so i reburnt
[12:41] <BlackDesign> magnetron, yeah, there where people... but no one who answered :p
[12:41] <Mitchbbaker> oh ill give that a try
[12:42] <BlackDesign> hypertyper, constantly googling after it... but it shows only for other menu's