[12:08] <ccoffey> viperserv2: Not sure if it'll work with mdadm but i've done it on other distros
[12:10] <viperserv2> saying permission denied
[12:11] <ccoffey> you need to do it as root.
[12:11] <viperserv2> i am
[12:11] <ccoffey> you have the potential to really screw things up though, sounless you are comfortable with recovery/reintsalling i wouldn't try it.
[12:12] <ccoffey> what command gave you permission denied?
[12:12] <kaminix> Is there any simple way to make .-folders unavailable via the proftpd-server?
[12:14] <lidy> ahoj
[12:15] <viperserv2> ./dev/md1 to /dev/sda1
[12:22] <odinsbane> good morning.  I am trying to install kde3.?? and I am wondering what is the name of the package I should install. (ubuntu hardy heron)
[12:22] <neo_> kde3
[12:22] <neo_> kde
[12:22] <neo_> kde
[12:22] <neo_> apt-get install kde
[12:23] <stdin> odinsbane: kubuntu-desktop is the preferred package
[12:24] <odinsbane> Ill try this for now.  I might reinstall ubuntu for kubuntu.
[12:25] <dentuk> hello
[12:25] <viperserv2> i wish i could reinstall my ubuntu box
[12:25] <viperserv2> but its 4k miles away
[12:28] <dentuk> I installed python-qt4-doc but I don't know how to read the documentation now...
[12:28] <dentuk> could someone help me ?
[12:28] <JackWinter> is there a newsreader for kontakt?
[12:29] <viperserv2> hmm where was ssd at again?
[12:29] <viperserv2> sshd
[12:32] <JackWinter> never mind found it myself.  called knode ;)
[12:35] <viperserv2> i found sshd also
[12:35] <MarcoPau> I see there's no more xmms in the hardy repos, except for this xmms2 which seems to be text only...  what shall we use as a sober music player?
[12:40] <Dr_willis> fire up the package manager and look at all the other media players.
[12:40] <Dr_willis> xmms2 has several gui front ends.
[12:42] <pavs> I forgot the word, but what are hidden features/pranks in software called?
[12:42] <Dr_willis>  Easter Eggs ?
[12:42] <pavs> thanks
[12:42] <pavs> :)
[12:42] <stdin> apt-get moo
[12:42] <stdin> ^that's a famous one
[12:42] <pavs> I know thanku very much it was killing me :)
[12:42] <Dr_willis> i recall some abussive option somewhere also
[12:42] <viperserv2> hmm is there something i should put befor this?
[12:42] <viperserv2> ./dev/md1 to /dev/sda1
[12:42] <pavs> I just couldnt remember it
[12:43] <Dr_willis> viperserv2,  what are you trying to do exactly?
[12:43] <Dr_willis> If thats a bash command.. it meaningless.
[12:43] <Dr_willis> :)
[12:43] <viperserv2> changed a raid1 into normal hds
[12:44] <Dr_willis> You mean 'convert' or 'delete' or  what exactly?
[12:44] <viperserv2> convert would be best
[12:44] <Dr_willis> i would backup stuff from the raid system to another location, for the safest way.
[12:45] <viperserv2> well the only thing on it is the os mostly
[12:45] <Dr_willis> If theres no imporntant data.. whipe it out. :)
[12:45] <Dr_willis> you could backup your /etc/ configs I guess.
[12:45] <MarcoPau> Dr_willis: I'm also here :)
[12:45] <Dr_willis> MarcoPau,  you stalker!
[12:45] <Dr_willis> :P
[12:46] <MarcoPau> LOL
[12:46] <viperserv2> aright
[12:47] <MarcoPau> I'm sorry for xmms, I think I used it for some ages, and actually had no problem with it.  is there anything similar to it for kde?
[12:48] <Dr_willis> Thres literally DOZENS of media players for songs under linux...
[12:48] <Dr_willis> amarok is popular  :)
[12:48] <Dr_willis> bmpx,   mpd, others.. depends on your needs
[12:48] <MarcoPau> yeah I know there are a bunch of them, and I tried already a few, but can't find anything as essential as xmms
[12:49] <anoble> helllo
[12:49] <viperserv2> when i convert it will destroy the os?
[12:49] <MarcoPau> small, light, to be put on the corner
[12:49] <anoble> hey do all security tools like Nessus work on Kubuntu?
[12:51] <Dr_willis> In theory - yes
[12:51] <anoble> ok, shound i get gnome?
[12:51] <viperserv2> hmm same with converting raid1 to raid0?
[12:52] <anoble> Dr_willis: should i get Gnome?
[12:52] <Dr_willis> convert is a vague term. :)
[12:52] <Dr_willis> anoble,  i dont know.. do you want gnome?
[12:52] <MarcoPau> Dr_willis: amarok is definitely huge according to my use
[12:52] <Lynoure> anoble: there is no should, you can have it on side by side with kde if you are curious about it
[12:52] <anoble> Dr_willis: yes, only reason im using Kubuntu is bec it reads the graphics card, and Ubuntu Doesnt
[12:52] <Dr_willis> MarcoPau,  then fire up the package manager and try out others.
[12:53] <anoble> Dr_willis: *i think it does
[12:53] <Dr_willis> anoble,  kubuntu and ubuntu both use the identical core. There should be no differeance in the graphics card.
[12:53] <anoble> Dr_willis: lol well Ubuntu wont go over 800x600
[12:53] <Dr_willis> If you want gnome then install it. :)  install 'ubuntu-desktop'  for the full gnome/ubuntu  system
[12:53] <BobDH> I need instructions for installing Creative Soundcard XFi 32/64 drivers. I have the tar file downloaded from Creative.
[12:53] <MarcoPau> Dr_willis: also bmpx is enormous. all I want is a small player that can fit in the little free corner on my desktop, on top of kvirc
[12:53] <Dr_willis> anoble,  compare the xorg.conf files perhaps. There should not be any differances.
[12:54] <MarcoPau> Dr_willis: if you know anthing that can look like that, please let me know
[12:54] <viperserv2> i think ill take the gamble
[12:54] <Dr_willis> MarcoPau,  go explore the  package manager..........
[12:54] <Dr_willis> MarcoPau,  or use a command line tool. :)
[12:54] <anoble> Dr_willis: well Ubuntu is gone from this computer, im running Ubuntu on one computer and Kubuntu on this one
[12:54] <Dr_willis> anoble,  i normally install kubuntu-desktop and ubuntu-desktop on all my machines.
[12:55] <MarcoPau> Dr_willis: well that I'm not really into, althou I used quite often the -e (enqueue) option from xmms command line
[12:55] <MarcoPau> when hacking in the shell
[12:55] <Dr_willis> MarcoPau,  you might want to check out mpd, or the other features of xmms2  if you want to controll the player with scripts.
[12:56] <Dr_willis> other players may even have similer or identical features. I tend to 'play all, random' and let them play for hours on end.
[12:56] <Dr_willis> !info mpd
[12:57] <viperserv2> ./dev/md1 to /dev/sda1
[12:57] <viperserv2> oh
[12:57] <viperserv2> mkfs /dev/md1 to /dev/sda1
[12:58] <viperserv2> that didn't work either
[12:58] <Dr_willis> viperserv2,  those are jibberish command line commands...
[12:58] <MarcoPau> Dr_willis: it seems to be a small little thing. I'll try that out, hope it can play flac and other crap like that
[12:58] <Dr_willis> if you want to format sda1 then you mkfs /dev/sda1
[12:58] <pavs> off-topic anyone knows the originality of apt-get moo?
[12:59] <Dr_willis> Ive got no idea wher eyou got this '/dev/md1 to /dev/sda1' being a command from. :)
[12:59] <viperserv2> ccoffey
[13:00] <Dr_willis> I would bet you misunderstood what he said.
[13:00] <stdin> pavs: bored developers I'd guess
 viperserv2: if it's not critical, you could just change the mount points in your fstab to the single disks rather than the mirror. i.e. from /dev/md1 to /dev/sda1 anf see what happens. have a live disk nearby to rescue it though!
[13:00] <viperserv2> ah
[13:00] <Dr_willis>  You change the lines IN the fstab file to change the device mounted... this is not converting the drives at all
[13:01] <Dr_willis> thats just changing the mount point/info
[13:01] <Dr_willis> !mount
[13:01] <viperserv2> it refused to format
[13:01] <Dr_willis> what was the exact command you used?
[13:02] <viperserv2> .mkfs /dev/sda1
[13:02] <Dr_willis> You could just delete the partitions on sda1 and other sd## disks  that are in the raid and reboot and restart the installer
[13:02] <viperserv2> that hd is there
[13:02] <Dr_willis> You just have 1 hd?
[13:02] <pavs> stdin makes sense ;)
[13:02] <viperserv2> 2
[13:03] <Dr_willis> viperserv2,  also think.. :) if formating a disk.. thats a big system task.. so you will want to use 'sudo' to do it as the root user.
[13:03] <Dr_willis> sudo mkfs.ext3 /dev/sda1
[13:03] <Dr_willis> for example.
[13:03] <Dr_willis> Be sure you want to get rid of sda1... that will whipe it out
[13:04] <viperserv2> /dev/sda1 is apparently in use by the system; will not make a filesystem here!
[13:04] <Dr_willis> well it would be best to not try to format the disk you are running the system from. :)
[13:04] <viperserv2> yeah i only have ssh access
[13:05] <Dr_willis> viperserv2,  You may manage to totally screw things up then... and make the system unbootable.. How are you goign to reinstall?
[13:05] <viperserv2> would have to get someone from the data center todo that
[13:06] <Dr_willis> viperserv2,  so.. whats the point of all this then?   have them reinstall, and l the raid when they install.
[13:06] <Dr_willis> and disable the raid.. i mean..
[13:07] <viperserv2> ah thats the only way then
[13:07] <Dr_willis> all you are going to manage to do is trash the system.
[13:07] <viperserv2> yeah too bad they have it raid1 instead of 0
[13:08] <Dr_willis> I dont even mess with raid any more. It wasent worth the hassle.
[13:08] <viperserv2> no u don't need raid unless u need to ul stuff at 1gbits or more
[13:09] <Dr_willis> i was testing it out for 'game speed boosts' :)
[13:09] <viperserv2> or that
[13:09] <Dr_willis> faster loading and so forth. - wasent worth the effort.
[13:09] <viperserv2> games load faster
[13:10] <Dr_willis> many of the newer games.. have done some major optmizing in that area. Bioshock could load faster.. but givben the size/details of the levels.. it was ent too bad.
[13:10] <Dr_willis> most of the MMORPGS i play - you dont even notice the loading any more
[13:10] <viperserv2> hmm what mmo r u able to run on ubuntu?
[13:10] <rdw> hi folks. what about java 6 support for amd64?
[13:11] <Dr_willis> viperserv2,  i dont. :) but many of them do work with Wine
[13:11] <ealx> ciao a tutti
[13:12] <viperserv2> whats the command for system specs?
[13:12] <ealx> sapreste dirmi se è possibil fare in modo che le icone del system tray siano visualizzabili in più righe
[13:13] <ealx> risparmiando spazio del pannello
[13:13] <stdin> !it
[13:13] <rdw> what about java 6 support for amd64?
[13:14] <stdin> rdw: what about it?
[13:15] <rdw> how do i upgrade some package in kubuntu 7.10?
[13:15] <rdw> build Blackdown-1.4.2-02
[13:15] <Dr_willis> sudo apt-get update   then sudo apt-get upgrade      for the latest from the repos
[13:15] <Dr_willis> if its not in the repos.. use the source.
[13:21] <rdw> repos is old stuff
[13:22] <Dr_willis> Thats often the case
[13:22] <Dr_willis> one of the problems with 6 mo release cycles.
[13:22] <stdin> actually 6 was recently updated
[13:24] <Dr_willis> i never use the blackdown java.. since a lot of apps dont like it.
[13:24] <corban> is it possible for a hdd without an active parition not to be picked up by the bios
[13:24] <stdin> you can try the icedtea-java7-* packages too, but they are slightly less complete atm
[13:24] <corban> a sata drive
[13:24] <Dr_willis> corban,  i wouldent think so.
[13:24] <Dr_willis> the bios menus should show it no matter what.
[13:24] <Dr_willis> unless the power is unplugged, or sata cable is loose. or somting like that.
[13:24] <stdin> bios just detects hardware, not partitions
[13:25] <corban> wierd
[13:25] <rdw> ok here's the deal -  i had it installed. i only didn't know about update-java-alternatives command!
[13:25] <corban> coz i have a SATA hdd in another computer and after i had plugged i a master IDE drive and unplugged tge master IDE hdd it's no longer detected as a primary hdd
[13:26] <corban> any ideas
[13:27] <corban> this computer i'm working on no matter if you set it to boot only from the HDD it tries to boot from CD/DVD
[13:27] <ubuntu__> Ubuntu smell shit, archlinux is the  Best
[13:28] <Jucato> !language | ubuntu__
[13:29] <asdfe> hey Jucato, icecruncher here
[13:29] <Jucato> hi
[13:29]  * Jucato has to go afk in a while
[13:30] <stdin> ubuntu__: if you don't like ubuntu, then /part
[13:30] <Jucato> oh good stdin's here
[13:30] <Jucato> afk now :)
[13:31] <flexible> ubuntu is for babies
[13:32] <stdin> I guess he should know..
[13:32] <Jucato> buhbye :)
[13:33] <viperserv2> anyone get freens working befor?
[13:39] <Lhademmor> QUESTION: Can somebody tell me what I need to do to get either Konqueror or Firefox to enter this page: https://www.netbank.nordea.dk/netbank/index.jsp and display a login box correctly?
[13:41] <nico_> .
[13:42] <nico_> hello everyone
[13:43]  * JoshOvki is either too suspisious or correct that the above link just doesnt seem right
[13:43] <Lhademmor> JoshOvki - what do you mean?
[13:43] <JoshOvki> just looks like the sort of thing you get in a phishing email
[13:43] <Lhademmor> It's my online bank!
[13:44] <Lhademmor> Or rather "my bank, online"
[13:44] <mefisto__> Lhademmor: do you have java installed? Firefox asked to confirm if I want to run the java on that page. then when I said yes and refreshed the page, the login boxes are there
[13:45] <Lhademmor> Yes, I think that I have java installed, at least with Firefox 3.0
[13:45] <JoshOvki> Lhademmor: im too suspisious then ;)
[13:45] <Lhademmor> I installed Firefox 2, and now it suddenly asked me to install JRE, which I'm trying to do from suns homepage now
[13:45] <nonewmsgs> sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[13:46] <nonewmsgs> lhandemmor jre is in synaptic
[13:47] <Lhademmor> nonewmsgs: Weird...
[13:48] <Lhademmor> Synaptic states that I have both sunjava5-jre AND sun-java6-jre installed...
[13:48] <nonewmsgs> lhademmor maybe uninstall 5?
[13:48] <nonewmsgs> i just have jre6 and everything is working properly
[13:48] <Jurgentje> yeah, well... Firefox doesn't really gets its info from apt... apparently it creates its own info
[13:48] <Jucato> Firefox needs sun-java6-plugin
[13:48] <JoshOvki> even after java is installed dont you then need to install the plugin for ff?
[13:48] <nonewmsgs> oh josh0vki is right
[13:49] <nonewmsgs> you need that too
[13:49] <nonewmsgs> sorry i just woke up
[13:49] <Lhademmor> Jucato, I have that one too...
[13:49] <nonewmsgs> also jucato was right too
[13:49] <Jucato> Lhademmor: what does "about:plugin" in Firefox say?
[13:50] <Jucato> (if you're using Firefox 3 beta, I'm not sure if it works)
[13:50] <Lhademmor> nonewmsgs, unfortunately I need Java 5 in order to get Oracle's JDeveloper working. But that's something else
[13:51] <Lhademmor> Jucato, in Firefox 2 it says that the URL is not valid and couldn't be loaded...
[13:51] <Jucato> er.. about:plugins I think
[13:51] <sacha_> yeah it is pluginS
[13:52] <JoshOvki> Lhademmor: you using FF2 or FF3?
[13:52] <Lhademmor> jucato, I've got Shockwave Flash installed - it says
[13:52] <Jucato> we're looking for Java :)
[13:52] <Lhademmor> Jucato, nothing
[13:53] <Lhademmor> JoshOvki, I was using FF3, but then I only got a grey box at the abovementioned link. In FF2 I at least get a request to install additional plugins
[13:53] <Jucato> weird...
[13:53] <mefisto__> I'm using FF3 beta 5 on hardy, and I can see the login (after reloading the page)
[13:54] <Lhademmor> I guess you're all running KDE,  right?
[13:54] <nonewmsgs> i runs em all
[13:54] <Lhademmor> I'm removing java5 now
[13:55] <nonewmsgs> how do you set kmail to check for new mail every x minutes?
[13:56] <x-X-x> i used firestarter on ubuntu gnome, can anyone reccomend me a good firewall manager like firestarter for kde or qt ?
[13:56] <Lhademmor> In FF3, the statusbar tells me "Applet com.ibm.cbt.thinclient.netbank.LogonApplet started" but I 0only get a grey box
[13:57] <x-X-x> anyone can help me ? ^
[13:57] <stdin> x-X-x: try guarddog
[13:57] <Jucato> nonewmsgs: Settings -> Configure -> Accounts (forgot the exact name) -> Receiving tab -> Modify the account and set the fetch interval
[13:58] <x-X-x> stdin = god
[13:58] <x-X-x> thnx man exactly what i was looking for
[13:58] <stdin> I don't want to be god, too many people asking you for things ;P
[13:58] <Jucato> (or you can keep on using firestarter if that's what you prefer or if that works better for you :D)
[13:58] <x-X-x> lol
[13:59] <nonewmsgs> judcato i dont havea  recieving tab??
[13:59] <Lhademmor> Nobody's able to help...?
[13:59] <x-X-x> jucato yeh but i wanted to have something which integrated better with kde
[13:59] <x-X-x> firestarter was easier than abc to use but i want to try something else
[13:59] <nonewmsgs> oh there it is
[13:59] <cbr> hello, my Kubuntu Intrepid fails to start X server, the logs say it can't find the FIXED font
[14:00] <cbr> what's going on?
[14:00] <nonewmsgs> thanks jucato
[14:00] <Lynoure> cbr: Intrepid support is on #ubuntu+1 if even yet there
[14:01] <jussi01> !tab | nonewmsgs
[14:01] <Lynoure> I didn't think it was even developed yet
[14:01] <stdin> it's not
[14:01] <stdin> use it and you FAIL
[14:01] <x-X-x> lol
[14:03] <Lhademmor> I take that as a no
[14:04] <mefisto__> Lhademmor: what happens when you reload, or try changing to the second tab, then back to the first?
[14:06] <Lhademmor> mefisto__: Absolutely nothing
[14:07] <mefisto__> do you see the two tabs in the page, or just a grey box?
[14:08] <Lhademmor> I see the two tabs
[14:11] <ganastasiou> hello everyone
[14:11] <faderhval> Greetings
[14:11] <ganastasiou> anyone uses kopete for msn client?
[14:11] <Lhademmor> QUESTION: Where is the Firefox plugins directory?
[14:11] <ganastasiou> i have a problem with slow file transfer
[14:13] <ganastasiou> noone has experience with that?
[14:13] <faderhval> Im trying to get DRI enabled on my gfx (Gefore 6800 LE PCI-E) so i need the "restricted" drivers and i looked up how to acces them but i can't find anything for kubuntu 8.04 anyone able to point me in the direction??
[14:14] <faderhval> preferably the right direction ;)
[14:14] <Lynoure> ganastasiou: sure, plentu with slow servers :)
[14:14] <Quetzlcoatl> did you tried the nvidia site ?
[14:14] <Lynoure> s/plentu/plenty/
[14:14] <faderhval> yeah i did but i can have anohter look if you think there should be something there
[14:17] <trident523> Hey #kubuntu, how could I get skype working on an x64 install?
[14:18] <mefisto__> Lhademmor: /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/    and also (but not always)   ~/.mozilla/plugins/
[14:18] <faderhval> so i get a *.run file but as im not to familiar with more than the pretty basics of installing applications on linux im not entirely sure what to do with it :)??
[14:19] <trident523> Try dragging it into konsole, and hitting enter.
[14:19] <Lhademmor> Haha, I used Suns (braindead) instructions for installing Java manually and linking it to my Firefox 2 browser and NOW, finally, I can see the box!
[14:19] <Lhademmor> Praise tha lord!
[14:19] <trident523> !lord
[14:20] <trident523> ubottu does not yet know.
[14:22] <trident523> Kay, the forums knew what I wanted to do.
[14:23] <faderhval> so didn't help dragging and pressing enter... how ever i tried the dpkg function but as it is not a *.deb i get an error
[14:23] <jcfp> !nvidia | faderhval
[14:23] <faderhval> thanks
[14:24] <jcfp> faderhval: yours is an nvidia card
[14:24] <faderhval> will look into it at once
[14:24] <Quetzlcoatl> faderhval: sudo sh Nvidia......run
[14:25] <faderhval> jcfp: i looked into that but there are no instrictions for 8.04 and i have the package from nividia i wanna use
[14:26] <faderhval> instructions*
[14:26] <Quetzlcoatl> and you need to install nvidia kernel source
[14:26] <faderhval> Quetzlcoatl: uhm..hehe yes okay i'll have to google that thanks ^
[14:27] <Quetzlcoatl> and if i remember well you have to  install also libc6-devel...anyway nvidia installer will tell you what you need
[14:28] <faderhval> ok got the kernel source! i'll try running the driver app. and see whats missing
[14:29] <faderhval> see ya soon seems it doesn't allow X to be running :)
[14:29] <Quetzlcoatl> ok. good luck !
[14:35] <faderhval> worked like a charm, thank you Quetzlcoatl
[14:35] <Quetzlcoatl> :)
[14:35] <faderhval> now to test if rendering is working ^^
[14:36] <faderhval> well i'll be...it does :)
[14:36] <Quetzlcoatl> great !
[14:37] <faderhval> only thing left is WoW and wine -.-
[14:37] <Quetzlcoatl> :))
[14:38] <xtremejuice> hey whta  going on bruss?
[14:38] <xtremejuice> wht up dawg??/
[14:40] <Alfred-AU> hi
[14:43] <peixoto> Hi all
[14:44] <peixoto> Is there an advanced tellico user around ?
[14:44] <peixoto> Got a problem
[14:44] <mefisto__> I love tellico, don't know if I'm "advanced"
[14:44] <peixoto> I Love it too, but now I am getting trouble tring to get a printed version of my collection
[14:45] <peixoto> I just want a printout list of the titles
[14:45] <raymears> hi, everyone. small issue: just installed the kde4 meta-package on hardy and everything seems to work fine, except for the window decorations, which are missing. any suggestions as to what i could do to get them working?
[14:46] <mefisto__> never used it to print the reports. what's wrong, peixoto?
[14:46] <peixoto> but the problem is that the report tool from tellico doesnt know how to break pages correctly, so that some line are cut in the middle...
[14:46] <charly> wenas
[14:47] <peixoto> I tried to export the list to CSV and open in OOficce, but it misbehaving interpratating the comments of the films
[14:48] <peixoto> I exported using the ṕ character, but even this way OOfice cant separate the fields correctly....
[14:48] <peixoto> Is it so hard to get a printed list of my films ?
[14:49] <Mak2> Would anyone know how to install 32-bit compatibility in Kubuntu 8.04 amd64 or am I screwed and need to install the 32-bit version instead?
[14:49] <faderhval> whats the option to get dpkg install a package with dependecies?
[14:50] <sacha_> linux32 lets you run 32-bit binaries mak2
[14:50] <Mak2> So simply apt-get install linux32 ?
[14:50] <sacha_> its in the package: util-linux
[14:50] <Mak2> Ok, that package is already installed, sacha_. But SecondLife refuses to run.
[14:51] <astan> hey. kubuntu does not include the rar plugin for ark in the kdeutils package? is it because of licensing or something?
[14:51] <sacha_> Mak2, run it like:   wine secondlife
[14:51] <sacha_> but, linux32 secondlife
[14:51] <Mak2> Ah, ok.
[14:51] <astan> (kdeutils-kde4 4.0.3)
[14:52] <Mak2> Apparently linux32 secondlife doesn't work, sacha_
[14:52] <sacha_> what does it say?
[14:52] <Mak2> linux32: secondlife: No such file or directory
[14:52] <sacha_> :P   linux32 /path/to/secondlifebinary
[14:53] <Mak2> When I do that, sacha_, second life claims it cannot find bin/do-not-directly-run-secondlife-bin which is clearly in the bin/ folder. >_>
[14:54] <Mak2> An error message which baffles me for the simple stupidity that the program cannot find something which is clearly there.
[14:55] <sacha_> oh, how are you meant to run secondlife if not directly? (i havent run it before)
[14:56] <raymears> help, anyone: just installed the kde4 meta-package on hardy and everything seems to work fine, except for the window decorations, which are missing. any suggestions as to what i could do to get them working? (just discovered that if i start kwin manually, it works...)
[14:56] <mefisto__> peixoto: is it cutting off the top of the page because of the filename and page number header?
[14:56] <Mak2> One runs the secondlife binary in the main folder which then runs the bin/do-not-directly-run-secondlife-bin and configures it properly, I guess.
[14:56] <sacha_> oh.. hmm
[14:57] <Mak2> The secondlife binary in the main folder has a bunch of config settings in it.
[14:57] <Mak2> Well, not really a binary. >_> It's a config script thing.
[14:57] <sacha_> linux32 /home/mak2/secondlife/bin/do-not-directly-run-secondlife-bin     <-- like this?
[14:57] <sacha_> ahhh, it's a script? you can open that script in a text editor and just add "linux32" to the part where it runs secondlife
[14:58] <Mak2> I'll give it a go.
[14:58] <Mak2> Hang on
[14:58] <peixoto> mefisto: no, it is cutting in the middle of line (randomly, in fact). It produces a long page, that doesnt fit in an A4, so when I print it cut some lines...
[14:58] <Mak2> export SL_CMD='$LL_WRAPPER bin/do-not-directly-run-secondlife-bin'
[14:58] <Mak2> Should I edit that one? >_>
[14:59] <sacha_> can try: export SL_CMD='linux32 $LL_WRAPPER bin/do-not-directly-run-secondlife-bin'
[14:59] <mefisto__> peixoto: have you tried printing to a pdf file instead of your printer, then printing the pdf?
[14:59] <peixoto> mefisto: yes, it gives me the same result...
[15:00] <peixoto> mefisto: the PDF itself is cutted...
[15:00] <Mak2> linux32 $LL_WRAPPER bin/do-not-directly-run-secondlife-bin
[15:00] <Mak2> erf
[15:00] <Mak2> linux32: bin/do-not-directly-run-secondlife-bin: No such file or directory
[15:01] <Mak2> I'm adding the full folder address to it now
[15:01] <sacha_> ok
[15:02] <Mak2> Nope. And even when changing the order of $LL_WRAPPER and linux32 no go
[15:02] <sacha_> when is SL_CMD executed?
[15:03] <Mak2> Er.. about 60/70% down in the thing?
[15:03] <sacha_> whats that line say
[15:03] <Mak2> # Run the program
[15:03] <Mak2> eval ${SL_ENV} ${SL_CMD} ${SL_OPT} || LL_RUN_ERR=runerr
[15:04] <Mak2> I could change that to ${linux32 SL_CMD} ? Maybe that works?
[15:04] <peixoto> mefisto: I thought it was more common problem (at least I want a printed list when I go shopping:-) )... I'll drop a line to the author, to see if he has a solution, but thanks anyway
[15:05] <sacha_> no that wont work
[15:05] <sacha_> mm thats confusing. anyway, there are 64-bit versions of secondlife for ubuntu
[15:05] <Mak2> But do those work with RestrainedLife?
[15:05] <sacha_> no idea lol
[15:06] <ShawnRisk> I am trying to install parallel tools for Parallels on my Mac to run Kubuntu 8.04 and I get this error: Found xorg version . Installation for xorg.. not found    Any ideas?
[15:06] <mefisto__> peixoto: it seems to not like A4 size
[15:06] <sacha_> Mak2: what is SL_ENV set to
[15:07] <Mak2> export SL_ENV='LD_LIBRARY_PATH="`pwd`"/lib:"`pwd`"/app_settings/mozilla-runtime-linux-i686:"${LD_LIBRARY_PATH}"'
[15:07] <stdin> ShawnRisk: try installing xorg-dev
[15:08] <sacha_> what happens when you run the script normally? with nothing changed
[15:09] <Mak2> with or without linux32
[15:09] <Mak2> ?
[15:09] <sacha_> without
[15:09] <Mak2> ./secondlife
[15:09] <Mak2> ./secondlife: line 92: bin/do-not-directly-run-secondlife-bin: No such file or directory
[15:09] <Mak2> *** Unclean shutdown. ***
[15:09] <ShawnRisk> stdin: trying
[15:09] <sacha_> im just curious since it said it didnt know where bin/do-not-run.. was before.. maybe it doesnt know it normally
[15:09] <sacha_> yeah
[15:09] <sacha_> so the linux32 thing did work.. its just that file really doesnt exist
[15:10] <Mak2> But it does
[15:10] <Mak2> It shows in konqueror
[15:10] <sacha_> what directory are you running secondlife in?
[15:10] <slow-motion> hi
[15:10] <Mak2> /home/maki/SL/RestrainedLife-1.10.4-SL-<IP_ADDRESS>/
[15:10] <peixoto> mefisto__: I tried Letter, and it worked now (I dont know if it was by chance, but it worked anyway).... I'll try a couple more reports...
[15:10] <sacha_> and what directory is the do-not-directly-run.. in?
[15:10] <Mak2> /home/maki/SL/RestrainedLife-1.10.4-SL-<IP_ADDRESS>/bin/
[15:11] <sacha_> ok for SL_CMD line make it this: export SL_CMD='linux32 $LL_WRAPPER /home/maki/SL/RestrainedLife-1.10.4-SL-<IP_ADDRESS>/bin/do-not-directly-run-secondlife-bin'
[15:12] <sacha_> with full path.. maybe itll get it then
[15:12] <Mak2> $ ./secondlife
[15:12] <Mak2> ./secondlife: line 92: /home/maki/SL/RestrainedLife-1.10.4-SL-<IP_ADDRESS>/bin/do-not-directly-run-secondlife-bin: No such file or directory
[15:12] <Mak2> *** Unclean shutdown. ***
[15:12] <sacha_> try this:  ls ~/SL/RestrainedLife-1.10.4-SL-<IP_ADDRESS>/
[15:13] <Mak2> $ ./secondlife
[15:13] <Mak2> ./secondlife: line 92: /home/maki/SL/RestrainedLife-1.10.4-SL-<IP_ADDRESS>/bin/do-not-directly-run-secondlife-bin: No such file or directory
[15:13] <Mak2> *** Unclean shutdown. ***
[15:13] <Mak2> Still the same error.
[15:13] <sacha_> no i mean, try running this command:  ls ~/SL/RestrainedLife-1.10.4-SL-<IP_ADDRESS>/
[15:14] <ShawnRisk> stdin: installed should I restart?
[15:14] <Mak2> er
[15:14] <Mak2> That gives me a list
[15:14] <TheGateKeeper> how do you upgrade from dapper 6.06 to the latest version (Full Upgrade button in adept is greyed out) ??
[15:14] <Mak2> the bin directory is blue
[15:14] <sacha_> ok good
[15:14] <sacha_> $ ./secondlife  <-- where are you running this from? are you sure this isnt /home/maki/ ?
[15:14] <stdin> ShawnRisk: you don't need to reboot, just try installing parallel tools again
[15:14] <Mak2> download and burn the iso and run the install CD, TheGateKeeper.
[15:15] <ShawnRisk> stdin: did, still same error
[15:15] <Mak2> I'm pretty sure of that, sacha.
[15:15] <Mr_Sonoma> A little help with a SAMBA/CUPS issue? trying to print from a windows vista machine to my linux box (kubuntu 8.04) so far i can browse printers on the windows box, and when i attempt to print a test page it shows in the "jobs" page of CUPS but goes no further. suggestions, ideas?
[15:15] <Mak2> maki@Kokoro:~/SL/RestrainedLife-1.10.4-SL-<IP_ADDRESS>$
[15:15] <TheGateKeeper> Mak2: you can't do it over the net?
[15:15] <sacha_> mm why would it say file doesnt exist?
[15:15] <stdin> ShawnRisk: I don't know then, it usually means it want's the dev files and what's why you installed. unless it's looking in the wrong place
[15:15] <Mak2> Not to my knowledge, TheGateKeeper.
[15:15] <Mak2> See, that's what puzzles me as well, sacha_.
[15:16] <Mak2> The file IS there. I even reinstalled the thing to try and see if that works.
[15:16] <sacha_> Mak2: can you `cd bin` and then ./do<TAB><TAB> and run it?
[15:16] <TheGateKeeper> Mak2: you are talking about an upgrade & not a fresh install ?
[15:16] <ShawnRisk> stdin: no other ideas?
[15:16] <Mak2> Er
[15:17] <Mak2> I fresh installed, TheGateKeeper, so I dunno.
[15:17] <stdin> ShawnRisk: I've never tried to install it, so I don't know. have you looked on the forums?
[15:17] <Mak2> $ ./do-not-directly-run-secondlife-bin do-not-directly-run-secondlife-bin
[15:17] <Mak2> bash: ./do-not-directly-run-secondlife-bin: No such file or directory
[15:17] <ShawnRisk> stdin: yes
[15:18] <sacha_> thats just weird
[15:18] <Mak2> I upgraded from 7.04 to 8.04 with my /home/ on a different partition, TheGateKeeper.
[15:18] <Mak2> Yes, sacha_
[15:19] <sacha_> a file that is there that .. isnt?
[15:19] <Mak2> I'm dumping a copy to /home/maki/restrainedlife/ and see if it runs from there.
[15:20] <Mak2> Might be the Capitals or the dots or something.. I dunno
[15:20] <crazy_bus> is there any program that will allow me to view a folder of images one after another length wise on the same page.  Because I have a whole bunch on book snippits and I want to view them as a page with only a small gap between each one
[15:20] <Jucato> crazy_bus: gwenview?
[15:20] <viperserv2> hello
[15:20] <Mak2> Nope, doesn't work either. It gives me the same 'No such file or directory' error when running from that folder.
[15:20] <BluesKaj> hiyas all
[15:21] <Mak2> As I said: It worked fine in 32-bits 7.04
[15:21] <viperserv2> is there anyway to convert a raid1 into raid0 or normal hds with ssh?
[15:21] <sacha_> the 32-bits/64-bits doesnt matter at all
[15:21] <Mak2> Ok
[15:21] <xtremejuice> fuck ypu
[15:21] <sacha_> thats some freaky thing going on where it cant see a file that is there
[15:21] <Mak2> So 7.04 runs fine and 8.04 chokes to death. >_>
[15:21] <stdin> !language | xtremejuice
[15:21] <crazy_bus> Jucato: so the kde3 version can do that?  As I only currently have the kde4 version installed
[15:21] <sacha_> Mak2: are you sure there isnt some symlink in there that got lost when you copied something?
[15:22] <sacha_> crazy_bus: kde4 one does that
[15:22] <Jucato> so does kde 3
[15:22] <Jucato> by lengthwise I presume you mean "vertical"?
[15:22] <crazy_bus> sacha_: how do I make it do it.  I only get a single image, or lots of previews at a time
[15:23] <Mak2> sacha_ I am pretty sure that after I installed 8.04, the /home/ directory being on a different partition from / and swap that I kept the files as they were in 7.04 and upon trying to run secondlife it failed majorly with the errors I showed you.
[15:23] <crazy_bus> Jucato: yes vertical
[15:23] <ShawnRisk> anyone else can help me?
[15:23] <Mak2> Being that it can't even find the darned file I am pretty sure, also, that it's nothing to do with audio or video driver issues or anything and am completely baffled.
[15:24] <Jucato> crazy_bus: well, if you're viewing book pages as images, why not just go to View image mode (one image at a time) then press Space/Backspace to navigate the images sequentially?
[15:24] <ShawnRisk> I am trying to install parallel tools for Parallels on my Mac to run Kubuntu 8.04 and I get this error: Found xorg version . Installation for xorg.. not found    Any ideas?
[15:25] <crazy_bus> Jucato: not book pages.  More like three line images and it's hard to concentrate going going forwards individually
[15:25] <sacha_> Mak2: ls -alF /home/maki/SL/RestrainedLife-1.10.4-SL-<IP_ADDRESS>/bin/ | grep not
[15:25] <Mak2> $ ls -alF /home/maki/SL/RestrainedLife-1.10.4-SL-<IP_ADDRESS>/bin/ | grep not
[15:25] <Mak2> -rwxr-xr-x 1 maki maki 35847120 2008-04-05 01:06 do-not-directly-run-secondlife-bin*
[15:25] <sacha_> what colour is it in
[15:26] <Mak2> huh?
[15:26] <sacha_> the file
[15:26] <Mak2> er
[15:26] <Mak2> green
[15:26] <ShawnRisk> I am out of here
[15:26] <sinkz> how do i join Quakenet?
[15:27] <BluesKaj> sinkz, quakenet has it's own server , youll have to set it up on your IRC client
[15:27] <Jucato> crazy_bus: this is the only way I can think of. in Gwenview's Browse mode, there is a slider in the toolbar at the top, beside "Thumbnails with Info on Bottom". slide that up way left to increase the preview size to 256x256
[15:28] <sacha_> Mak2: bash SL/RestrainedLife-1.10.4-SL-<IP_ADDRESS>/bin/do-not-directly-run-secondlife-bin
[15:28] <sacha_> oops
[15:28] <Mak2> er
[15:28] <sacha_> Mak2: bash ~/SL/RestrainedLife-1.10.4-SL-<IP_ADDRESS>/bin/do-not-directly-run-secondlife-bin
[15:28] <Mak2> $ bash ~/SL/RestrainedLife-1.10.4-SL-<IP_ADDRESS>/bin/do-not-directly-run-secondlife-bin
[15:28] <Mak2> /home/maki/SL/RestrainedLife-1.10.4-SL-<IP_ADDRESS>/bin/do-not-directly-run-secondlife-bin: /home/maki/SL/RestrainedLife-1.10.4-SL-<IP_ADDRESS>/bin/do-not-directly-run-secondlife-bin: cannot execute binary file
[15:29] <crazy_bus> Jucato: unfortunately their not big enough in my version.  Maybe I'll try imagemagick
[15:30] <Jucato> crazy_bus: both kde4 and kde3 versions seem to have that max "preview" size
[15:31] <Mak2> The error persists throughout SL versions, sacha_
[15:31] <sacha_> weirdest thing ever :P
[15:31] <Minnozz> !kmilo
[15:31] <Mak2> RestrainedLife-<IP_ADDRESS>-SL-<IP_ADDRESS> does the same.
[15:31] <Minnozz> does anybody know how to fix KMilo for my Logitech keyboard?
[15:34] <crazy_bus> Jucato: I found how to do it perfectly by stitching them together into a pdf.  Thanks for all your help ( sacha_ too )
[15:34] <sacha_> Mak2: well if this doesnt work i dunno whats going on:   export SL_CMD='linux32 $LL_WRAPPER /home/maki/SL/RestrainedLife-1.10.4-SL-<IP_ADDRESS>/bin/do-not-directly-run-secondlife-bin'
[15:35] <Mak2> $ ./secondlife
[15:35] <Mak2> linux32: /home/maki/SL/RestrainedLife-1.10.4-SL-<IP_ADDRESS>/bin/do-not-directly-run-secondlife-bin: No such file or directory
[15:35] <Mak2> *** Unclean shutdown. ***
[15:36] <Mak2> $ linux32 /home/maki/SL/RestrainedLife-1.10.4-SL-<IP_ADDRESS>/bin/do-not-directly-run-secondlife-bin
[15:36] <Mak2> linux32: /home/maki/SL/RestrainedLife-1.10.4-SL-<IP_ADDRESS>/bin/do-not-directly-run-secondlife-bin: No such file or directory
[15:36] <Mak2> >_>;
[15:37] <Mak2> sacha_
[15:38] <Mak2> I tried installing several versions of the RL viewer as well as the SL viewer to several different folders, repeating what you told me.
[15:38] <Mak2> They all come out on not being able to find the bin/do-not-directly-run-secondlife-bin binary
[15:38] <sacha_> maybe they did some cray voodoo thing so you cant run their file directly
[15:39] <Mak2> heh
[15:39] <Mak2> I wouldn't know how to edit a binary to check, sacha_
[15:40] <Mak2> But since the secondlife script executes the binary, wouldn't that still need to work somehow cause it did before? o.O;
[15:42] <TheGateKeeper> Need to get 0B of archives. After unpacking 0B will be used.  <<< what is OB ?
[15:43] <velho> i need some help, please. i've just installed lasted kubuntu version with kde4, and after making some changes, now kde doesn't start!
[15:44] <velho> can i restart kde to default installation version or something?
[15:44] <BluesKaj> velho, describe doesn't start
[15:45] <Minnozz> TheGateKeeper: not much
[15:45] <Minnozz> ( zero bytes )
[15:45] <velho> x loads and ask me to put my name and password. by trying to load kde, it stops in the middle and restart to the logion window
[15:46] <velho> *login
[15:46] <BluesKaj> velho,
[15:46] <faderhval> can someone point me to a man/guide where i can read a bit aobut the directory structure in kubuntu/linux can't find much on google
[15:46] <BluesKaj> you have to choose wich desktop in the menu, if you have kde3 and4
[15:47] <Minnozz> faderhval: type 'man hier'
[15:47] <hydrogen> !fhs
[15:47] <TheGateKeeper> well looks like nothing has changed, upgrading from one version to the next seems like you still have to trash everything and start again from scratch
[15:48] <faderhval> Minnozz: and hydrogen thanks..
[15:48] <BluesKaj> TheGateKeeper, not really
[15:48] <velho> BluesKaj: when i choose KDE4, it doesn't start. i'm in "Failsafe" now... :S
[15:48] <Minnozz> you're welcome :)
[15:48] <BluesKaj> velho, do you have kde 3 installed ?
[15:48] <TheGateKeeper> BluesKaj: ok so how do I upgrade from 6.06 ?
[15:48] <velho> no, i guess not
[15:50] <hydrogen> TheGateKeeper: "You can only directly upgrade to Kubuntu 8.04 (Hardy Heron) from Kubuntu 7.10 (Gutsy Gibbon)"
[15:50] <velho> BluesKaj: i have the latest kubuntu version with kde4. is this a kde4 bug?
[15:50] <dhq> hello guys ... i just installed kubuntu 8.04 but the problem is it uses vesa drivers when i install the propariety drivers i get the white screen of death
[15:50] <BluesKaj> TheGateKeeper, you made a blanket statement , but din't mention that you were 4-5 releases behind the curve
[15:51] <hydrogen> BluesKaj: well.. one would expect that it would be possible to updat from LTS to what should have been a LTS
[15:51] <BluesKaj> velho, it could be your hardware doesn't work with kde4
[15:51] <hydrogen> as it is on nonkubuntu
[15:51] <TheGateKeeper> BluesKaj: hydrogen you should be able to upgrade from one LTS version to the next
[15:51] <hydrogen> TheGateKeeper: however, kubuntu 8.04 is not a lts
[15:51] <velho> BluesKaj: but it WAS working
[15:51] <BluesKaj> hmm is Hardy is an LTS ?
[15:51] <hydrogen> which means everythings going to be thrown off
[15:52] <hydrogen> BluesKaj: it is for ubuntu, not kubuntu
[15:52] <TheGateKeeper> hydrogen: I thought it was
[15:52] <BluesKaj> velho, so what has changed since it was working ?
[15:52] <Mr_Sonoma> A little help with a SAMBA/CUPS issue? trying to print from a windows vista machine to my linux box (kubuntu 8.04) so far i can browse printers on the windows box, and when i attempt to print a test page it shows in the "jobs" page of CUPS but goes no further. suggestions, ideas?
[15:53] <velho> BluesKaj: i was changing the K menu
[15:54] <BluesKaj> velho, you changed the kicker ?
[15:55] <BluesKaj> Mr_Sonoma, so which pc is the printer actually connected to ?
[15:55] <Minnozz> any help with the case "Logitech keyboard vs. kmilo" ?
[15:55] <velho> BluesKaj: exactly
[15:56] <velho> BluesKaj: can i pu kicker in default mode?
[15:56] <BluesKaj> velho, dunno how to help , maybe change it back ?
[15:56] <Mak2> sacha_ still alive?
[15:56] <sacha_> hi
[15:56] <Mak2> Hehe
[15:57] <velho> but can i change back the kicker? by a command line or something?
[15:57] <Mak2> You just went silent all of a sudden, sorry. I'm still not quite sure what to do. Should I install the 32-bit version of 8.04 or see if there's a solution for this problem I have in the amd64 version?
[15:58] <viperserv2> is there anyway to convert a raid1 into raid0 or normal hds with ssh?
[15:58] <Mak2> I mean, if the binary isn't supposed to be run by itself, but can't run without linux32 or something.. as far as I understand now.. it might be that it would work in the 32-bit version because it doesn't depend on working with linux32?
[15:59] <sacha_> naah it has nothing to do with 32/64 bits
[15:59] <sacha_> it doesnt run even without linux32
[15:59] <Mak2> Then I'm stumped
[16:00] <Mak2> So how do I solve it?
[16:00] <Mak2> Backtrack to 7.04?
[16:00] <sacha_> no idea
[16:00] <sacha_> its just completely weird. never seen a file that is there but not there before
[16:00] <Mak2> Me neither.
[16:01] <Mak2> But as I said: It happens to other installs as well.
[16:01] <Mak2> do-not-directly-run-secondlife-bin just doesn't exist on disk but exists regardless. >_>
[16:01] <Mak2> And is 34.2 MB or (35,847,120 B) on said disk. >_>
[16:02] <ccc4> some one help am a newbie:)
[16:02] <sacha_> lol
[16:02] <genii> !ask | ccc4
[16:03] <genii> ccc4: eg: State the nature of your kubuntu emergency ;)
[16:03] <ccc4> well
[16:03] <ccc4> i put ma usb device in and ma kubunto wont read it or i dnt find it ? help
[16:03] <sacha_> kde3 or kde4?
[16:03] <sujith> hi I want to  how can I voice chat in ubuntu
[16:04] <ccc4> its kubunto
[16:04] <sujith> yes
[16:04] <genii> ccc4: What is the usb device you plugged in?
[16:04] <ccc4> 7.10
[16:04] <ccc4> genii its a normal 1
[16:04] <Lynoure> sujith: there are many ways, skype, lots of other voip software, some messaging software
[16:04] <ccc4> just with pictures
[16:04] <sacha_> a flash drive
[16:04] <velho> can i restart the default kicker in kde4? i guess i can't acess kubuntu because i changed the kicker. help?
[16:05] <BluesKaj> velho, maybe you should ask in #kubuntu-kde4
[16:05] <plinio_> what is new in ubuntu 804?
[16:05] <velho> BluesKaj: thanks
[16:05] <genii> ccc4: OK, so storage device. What filesystem? Was it used before with a windows system?
[16:05] <genii> hmm
[16:06] <sacha_> lol
[16:06] <sujith> anybody pls help me which messenger is available for voice chat other than skype for yahoo and gmail account
[16:07] <genii> Mak2: What is your 32/64 bit dilemma?
[16:08] <Mak2> Well, sacha_ sorta ruled out it was a 32/64 bit problem, genii
[16:08] <genii> I just got here so sorta need a recap
[16:09] <sacha_> genii: konqueror and `ls` show that a file exists.. but if he attempts to run the file, it says file or folder doesnt exist
[16:09] <Mak2> Apparently the file do-not-directly-run-secondlife-bin in the /bin/ folder in pretty much all versions of the SecondLife and RestrainedLife viewers I tried so far doesn't exist. Yet still takes up about 30 MB worth of room and shows in both Konsole and Konqueror and is executable and can be manipulated..
[16:09] <Mak2> I'm a she, sacha_.
[16:09] <sacha_> oh sorry
[16:09]  * Mak2 pets softly. "No problem."
[16:09] <sujith> anybody pls help me which messenger is available for voice chat other than skype for yahoo and gmail account
[16:09] <sujith> anybody pls help me which messenger is available for voice chat other than skype for yahoo and gmail account
[16:10] <hydrogen> patience
[16:10] <rootsnatch> hey guys so I want to have the output of a shell command appear on my desktop, is that possible?
[16:10] <sacha_> sujith: MSN?
[16:10] <rootsnatch> I have tried conky but I can't get conky to work without it flickering whenever I put something on the desktop or take it off the desktop
[16:10] <rootsnatch> any other ideas?
[16:11] <sujith> both yahoo and Gtalk client in linux for voice chatr
[16:11] <genii> Mak2: What does ls -l of the file show?   (executable, is it a symlink(to a nonexistant target), ownership, etc)
[16:11] <Mak2> sacha_ & genii I solved the problem!
[16:11] <sacha_> genii: its a green file (executable) and not a symlink
[16:11] <sacha_> how did you solve it?
[16:11] <sujith> sacha can u help me??
[16:12] <BluesKaj> rootsnatch, whynot just copy&paste the output to a text file
[16:12] <sacha_> sujith: what is the problem?
[16:12] <rootsnatch> ok then can I display the text file on the desktop
[16:12] <Mak2> I just installed wine and dependencies and now the do-not-directly-run-secondlife-bin does work. I think it has something to do with the dependencies. The following packages came with wine: binfmt-support ia32-libs lib32asound2 lib32gcc1 lib32ncurses5 lib32stdc++6 lib32z1 libc6-i386
[16:12] <sujith> i want to know is ubuntu supports voice chat for yahoo and gtalk
[16:12] <sacha_> BluesKaj: i think he just wants a console on his desktop
[16:12] <sacha_> sujith: yeah, yahoo, gtalk and msn
[16:13] <rootsnatch> BluesKaj: pretty much, or at least just the output of a command on the desktop
[16:13] <sujith> can u please let me which application
[16:13] <Mak2> Now I just need to figure out how to get the proper video drivers for my ASUS EN6200LE TC1G to work. >_> Cause SL gave me a window creation error. XD
[16:13] <sacha_> binfmt-support would be it
[16:13] <BluesKaj> well desktop to me is a "desltop not TTY prompt or shell prompt
[16:13] <BluesKaj> dektop
[16:13] <sujith> sacha binfmt is the answer for me??
[16:13]  * BluesKaj ties to clean L+KB
[16:13] <sacha_> sujith: no
[16:13] <astan> rootsnatch: i think you could use root-tail (aptitude install root-tail)
[16:14] <sacha_> sujith: have you tried kopete for msn?
[16:14] <BluesKaj> KB is in bad shape here ...bbl
[16:14] <sacha_> and yahoo
[16:14] <sujith> yes
[16:14] <sacha_> sujith: also, there is Skype for Linux
[16:14] <sujith> general chat support
[16:14] <sujith> no voice chat
[16:14] <sujith> ya skype works fine
[16:14] <sacha_> theres voice chat in my kopete
[16:15] <sujith> are sure??
[16:15] <sacha_> also, google has a list with all linux clients that work with it:
[16:15] <sacha_> http://www.google.com/talk/otherclients.html  <-- none of them do voice sorry
[16:15] <sacha_> (for google talk)
[16:15] <astan> rootsnatch: if you put "yourcommand > /tmp/cmd-output" in a shell script somewhere, and then root-tail --reload 1 /path/to/shell/script /tmp/cmd-output
[16:15] <astan> rootsnatch: (note i've not tried this myself, just going by the root-tail manual).
[16:16] <sujith> ok
[16:16] <rootsnatch> thanks!
[16:17] <astan> np.
[16:17] <sujith> sacha anyway thanks for u r support
[16:17] <sujith> also one more quory how can we remove startup programs in linux
[16:18] <sacha_> ~/.kde/Autostart has startup programs, there would be more in the method used to start kdm (xinit/startx), there are also services
[16:19] <melania123456> que c hago
[16:19] <sacha_> you can configure them all in SystemSettings->Advanced
[16:20] <sacha_> sujith: i believe the latest version of Pidgin now supports voice with google talk
[16:20] <Mak2> Hasta la vista baby! XD
[16:21] <sacha_> sujith: http://developer.pidgin.im/ticket/34 <-- in here it details about what pidgin voice support is currently
[16:21] <sujith> thanks sacha
[16:22] <sacha_> sujith: aMSN also boats voice support
[16:23] <sujith> sacha how can i remove startup programs
[16:23] <sujith> is there any commands
[16:24] <sacha_> sujith: in System Settings application go to Advanced and then Service Manager
[16:24] <arke> good evennig. :)
[16:24] <arke> err
[16:24] <arke> evening
[16:24]  * arke can't type
[16:25] <arke> any suggestions for decreasing the base system's RAM footprint?
[16:25] <sacha_> what is it now and what are you trying to decrease it to?
[16:25] <sacha_> there are different distros that specialise in low memory footprints
[16:26] <sacha_> i think kubuntu aims at 256-512
[16:26] <mefisto__> arke: you could disable any services you don't use/need
[16:27] <sujith> thanks sacha for ur support
[16:28] <sujith> i am just biginner in linux
[16:28] <sacha_> its ok. its hard with so many different applications for one purpose all with varying features
[16:28] <sujith> so I dont know much abt the utilities
[16:28] <sujith> ok
[16:29] <sujith> I couldnt find any suitable application for voice chat
[16:29] <sujith> how can i upgarde pidgin
[16:29] <genii> arke: The biggest hog is usually the window manager, lighter window managers lighten the load. For systems where ram is tight, ppl usually go with fluxbox or xfce (fluxbuntu or xubuntu)
[16:29] <sujith> is it like windos?
[16:29] <sacha_> sujith: sudo apt-get install pidgin
[16:29] <BluesKaj> sujith, what do like doing with your pc , what were you doing in windows or mac that you want to do in linux too ?
[16:29] <sacha_> sujith: or, if you prefer a graphical interface, open up adept_manager
[16:30] <sacha_> BluesKaj: he just wants voice chat in google talk or yahoo
[16:30] <sujith> ya its showing the pidgin is the latest version
[16:31] <sacha_> sujith: alt+f2 and then type in: pidgin
[16:31] <BluesKaj> yup sacha_'s right ..pidgin is prolly the best bet
[16:31] <sacha_> im not sure really because they lost voice and webcam support after the name change from gaim. hoping they got it back recently
[16:32] <sujith> sacha i think still it does nt support that
[16:33] <sacha_> not working?
[16:33] <sujith> ya no voice options
[16:34] <sacha_> ah ok, mmm
[16:34] <sacha_> and kopete didnt work for you?
[16:34] <BluesKaj> is voice and webcam, that important to users..i thought cellphones &  pda's and the like were what "happening dudes and dudettes" were using nowadays  :)
[16:34] <sujith> ya
[16:34] <sacha_> voice and webcam works fine in msn on pretty much every client (except pidgin) :P
[16:35] <sacha_> not sure about yahoo though, on kopete, because i dont have a yahoo
[16:35] <sujith> BluesKaj I was using windows and just learning linux
[16:35] <sujith> I want to try all services in linux tooo
[16:35] <sujith> ok
[16:35] <BluesKaj> right , welcome to linux , sujith
[16:36] <sujith> thanks BluesKaj
[16:36] <sujith> Iam just a beginner so iam distubing u people with questions
[16:36] <sujith> sorry for that
[16:36] <genii> The pidgin devs have no plans for webcam or voice support
[16:37] <genii> (reference http://developer.pidgin.im/ticket/34 )
[16:37] <BluesKaj> kopete is a good client for the regular IMs from my experience anyway..not a yahoo user tho
[16:37] <sacha_> ekiga does voice but not sure what protocols it uses
[16:38] <sujith> same command works for ekiga
[16:38] <sujith> sudo apt-get install ekiga??
[16:38] <llutz> ekiga uses SIP and h323
[16:38] <sacha_> yes sujith
[16:39] <sacha_> this thing looks dodgy but it has voice support for yahoo: http://www.phrozensmoke.com/projects/pyvoicechat/
[16:42] <mefisto__> how can I do a bulk rename? I want to change .JPG to .jpg
[16:42] <llutz> mefisto__: krename
[16:43] <llutz> or mmv
[16:43] <mefisto__> you mean mv ?
[16:43] <llutz> mefisto__: nope  mmv
[16:44] <llutz> mmv - Move/Copy/Append/Link multiple files
[16:45] <sacha_> mefisto__: rename -v 's/\.JPG$/\.jpg/' *.JPG
[16:45] <sacha_> mefisto__: dont worry bout the scary slashes and stuff, just regex
[16:46] <mefisto__> but I do worry about regex. I'll get around to learning it one day :)
[16:46] <sacha_> did that work?
[16:46] <sigma_1234> whats a good program to convert a dvd to a high quality avi file?
[16:47] <llutz> sigma_1234: dvd:rip, k9copy
[16:48] <viperserv2> hmm i hate raid1
[16:48] <viperserv2> waste hd space
[16:48] <mefisto__> sacha_: didn't work. filename already exists. so it doesn't seem to differentiate uppercase and lowercase
[16:48] <sigma_1234> thanks
[16:48] <sacha_> sigma_1234: well, mencoder.. but you want a graphical frontend for mencoder
[16:48] <sacha_> sigma_1234: which is like acidrip or dvd::rip
[16:48] <sigma_1234> yeah i need one
[16:49] <sacha_> mefisto__: thats weird.. it definitely does differentiate between those
[16:49] <sigma_1234> acidrip doesnt work anymore
[16:49] <sacha_> mefisto__: but maybe the filename really does exist? changed some names already?
[16:49] <viperserv2> hmm there no safe way to deraid?
[16:49] <sigma_1234> hope dvd rip does
[16:49] <sacha_> oh dvd::rip is a frontend for transcode
[16:50] <sacha_> sigma_1234: takes about 8 hours for dvd->avi high quality
[16:50] <sigma_1234> whats the difference?
[16:51] <sacha_> differet backends are different code which means completely different results
[16:51] <Lynoure> viperserv2: from raid 1? hw, software, something else? Basicly you already deraid if you pop out the second disk, but it will be unhappy into your logs :)
[16:51] <viperserv2> well i only have ssh to work with
[16:52] <Lynoure> viperserv2: hardware or software raid?
[16:53] <sujith> sacha one more help
[16:53] <sujith> i have a tar.gz file
[16:53] <sujith> i dont know how to install this file
[16:53] <sujith> can u help me
[16:53] <therion> Hi all, how i can install compiz without installing also gnome libraries or dependencies?
[16:53] <sacha_> sujith: tar xvf filename.tar.gz
[16:54] <sacha_> sujith: that extracts the file to a directory called filename (whatever it was called)
[16:54] <sujith> this is a them file
[16:54] <Lynoure> viperserv2: if it's hardware raid, you are pretty much out of luck unless you have a ipmi card that lest you talk to the hardware raid management...
[16:54] <sacha_> you can also open .tar.gz with the extractor program, Ark
[16:55] <sacha_> sujith: oh right, i think you can use themes directly from the tar.. go to System Settings->Appearance->Themes
[16:55] <sacha_> and then Import...
[16:55] <viperserv2> hmm its md1 and md2
[16:56] <Lynoure> viperserv2: that's software raid then... :)
[16:56] <viperserv2> hmm there is a safe way to get rid of it then?
[16:58] <viperserv2> well sda1 and sdb1 r the drives
[16:58] <mobile> has any one had any experiance ATI binary driver and catar?lyst control cente
[16:59] <Lynoure> viperserv2: not very safe, but at least it should be doable. I would not try to walk you through it remotely, too many variables and if you'd mess it up it would be sad. If you really have only remote access, I wholeheartedly recommend sticking to raid1 unless it's a throwaway system. I know, it feels useless until one of the disks break
[16:59] <mobile> with kunbuntu
[16:59] <sujith> sacha i couldnt find a theme options in appearance window
[17:00] <sujith> sacha i couldnt find a theme options in appearance windo
[17:00] <mobile> HELP
[17:02] <sujith> anybody pls help me how can I install tar.gz file
[17:03] <bean> don are you there
[17:03] <Lynoure> viperserv2: sooner or later one of them will and then with raid1 your data is still safe and fine, which raid0 or no raid it's just gone (better have good backups).
[17:04] <genii> It eludes me why raid0 is even used at all
[17:04] <genii> It's like a step backwards
[17:04] <pramod> I just upgraded to kubuntu 8.04 and am not able to play sounds... :(
[17:04] <viperserv2> well if the drive is cooled it wont fail
[17:04] <genii> pramod: Please report result of command (in Konsole): lspci -v | grep Audio
[17:05] <pramodok> ok
[17:05] <genii> viperserv2: All drives fail. Thats why they have MTBF ratings
[17:05] <sujith> anybody pls help me how can I install tar.gz file
[17:06] <mobile> Can anyone help me with a ati graphics driver for linux unbuntu and kunbuntu.
[17:06] <pramod> even my konsole has crashed...
[17:06] <pramod> got to restart pc... i will be right back
[17:07] <sujith> sacha r u there
[17:07] <sujith> can u help me?
[17:07] <mobile> Can anyone help me with a ati graphics driver for linux unbuntu and kunbuntu.
[17:07] <genii> pramod: Make sure you run the Konsole version of the kde you are in
[17:08] <Lynoure> viperserv2: if you still want to unraid, I'll pastebin you something might work, no promises it will not end up with tears, I would not do it remotely, or on an non-backed up system, myself.
[17:08] <viperserv2> well if there is a small partition for the os it shouold be ok to delete a partition
[17:08] <pramod> i am using kde 3.5.9
[17:08] <bean> i,m not vayant
[17:08] <sujith> I want to install a file with extn tar.gz
[17:08] <sujith> how can I install that
[17:09] <pramod> even i installed upgraded to the KDE 4 version.... it's still on KDE 3.5.9
[17:10] <stdin> sujith: tar.gz is a compresses file you extract, it usually contains source files you need to compile
[17:10] <stdin> !compile
[17:10] <viperserv2> \i will try it
[17:14] <pramod> am not able to play get sounds on the Kubuntu 8.04
[17:15] <viperserv2> md2 is unmounted
[17:15] <viperserv2> /dev/md1 3.0G 573M 2.3G 20% /
[17:15] <viperserv2> varrun 2.0G 48K 2.0G 1% /var/run
[17:15] <viperserv2> varlock 2.0G 0 2.0G 0% /var/lock
[17:15] <viperserv2> udev 2.0G 48K 2.0G 1% /dev
[17:15] <viperserv2> devshm 2.0G 0 2.0G 0% /dev/shm
[17:16] <Arelis> How do i turn a series of images into an animation with a set FPS rate?>
[17:16] <pramod> i just upgraded to kubuntu 8.04 and am not able to play sound.. :(
[17:17] <mefisto__> pramod: did you upgrade from gutsy?
[17:17] <pramod> yeah
[17:17] <genii> pramod: Again. Please report the sound card type with the result of command: lspci | grep Audio
[17:17] <pramod> fron gutsy 7.10
[17:17] <pramod> ah ok thaks i was waiting for that
[17:18] <mefisto__> I was reading in ubuntuforums yesterday about the upgrade installing -386 instead of -generic linux images, and that was causing some people to lose sound.
[17:19] <freitasx> ola
[17:19] <genii> mefisto__: Also a lot of ppl on < 8.04 ran the !intelhda fix forgetting they did so, and need to re-do it
[17:19] <pramod> 80:01.0 Audio device: VIA Technologies, Inc. VIA High Definition Audio Controller (rev 10)
[17:20] <hellhound> in Hardy Heron, what program is used to search the words of files within a folder.  for example I want to search for files containing a specific word in a folder and its subfolder
[17:21] <rishi> hi
[17:22] <rishi> i want to ask
[17:22] <pramod> genii: 80:01.0 Audio device: VIA Technologies, Inc. VIA High Definition Audio Controller (rev 10)
[17:22] <genii> pramod: Ok, now to get device code, :   lspci -nn | grep Audio
[17:22] <freitasx> alquem sabe se o ug do virtualbox ja foi corrigido
[17:22] <Lynoure> viperserv2: if you have only 3G, is that a VPS?
[17:22] <pramod> genii: 80:01.0 Audio device [0403]: VIA Technologies, Inc. VIA High Definition Audio Controller [1106:3288] (rev 10)
[17:23] <genii> pramod: That will tell us vendor/device identifiers which can be useful to find chipset, etc
[17:23] <genii> pramod: OK, give me a minute (or 3) for research
[17:23] <rishi> is ubuntu 7.01 is compatilable with windows vista????
[17:23] <pramod> ok thanks you... :)
[17:23] <Lynoure> viperserv2: don't even try if it is, ask the supplier to move you to raid0 or something. And you still have 80% of it free!
[17:23] <freitasx> somebody speak portuguese????
[17:24] <jonfhancock> Dude... so far, I'm more irritated than impressed with KDE4
[17:24] <jpatrick> !pt | freitasx
[17:24] <rishi> is ubuntu 7.01 is compatilable with windows vista????
[17:24] <pramod> yeah true... KDE 4 still has some bugs... i wonder whether i did the right thing by downloading the KDE4 Remix version... :S
[17:24] <rishi> pls tell me
[17:25] <jpatrick> !windows > rishi
[17:25] <Lynoure> rishi: compatible in what way? You can have both 7.10 and vista on same system...
[17:25] <rishi> yes
[17:26] <pramod> rishi: Ubuntu is installed in dual boot in another partition... it has no relationship with its compatibility with vista...
[17:26] <rishi> pramod:are u from india???
[17:26] <pramod> nope... Mauritius...
[17:27] <rishi> ok
[17:27] <viperserv2> well it has 2 750gb drives
[17:27] <viperserv2> but i unmounted the md2
[17:27] <jonfhancock> rishi: do you mean: Can the grub bool loader boot windows vista?
[17:27] <jonfhancock> if so, then yess
[17:27] <pramod> rishi: The only compatibility issue is with it's hardware...
[17:27] <rishi> what about the ububtu 8
[17:27] <jonfhancock> I got the remix cd too..  I was irritated that it didn't come with amarok
[17:27] <jonfhancock> or konversation
[17:27] <rishi> pramod:i am asking because
[17:28] <jonfhancock> and I hate the new panel/widgets
[17:28] <rishi> pramod:i installed
[17:28] <rishi> ubuntu 7.10
[17:28] <rishi> on a hp pavalion dv67000
[17:28] <rishi> laptop
[17:28] <Lynoure> jonfhancock: well, go back to kde3? kde4 support is on #kubuntu-kde4 anyway :)
[17:28] <rishi> which have vista on it
[17:28] <rishi> wjen i finished
[17:29] <jonfhancock> Lynoure: I probably will
[17:29] <rishi> installation
[17:29] <rishi> and restart laptop
[17:29] <rishi> then grub start showing
[17:29] <rishi> two option for vista
[17:29] <viperserv2> if i de partition md2 that would be enough?
[17:29] <Lynoure> jonfhancock: it's possible to have both too, that way you can occasionally go take a look at the side you normally don't use
[17:29] <rishi> and when i boot my vista
[17:29] <genii> pramod: I'm not having much success with google. But it seems that this chipset is somehow tied up with winmodem HSF driver, a lot of reverences to this. PErhaps due to bundled VIA chipset.
[17:29] <Maximilian001> hi guys
[17:29] <Maximilian001> is there something like .kde/Autostart  but for the END of the session?   I need to define a command which has to be executed by logging out
[17:29] <rishi> then it will not boot
[17:30] <rishi> but ubuntu working currectly
[17:30] <jonfhancock> rishi google vista grub
[17:30] <rishi> pramod:so wht's the problem???
[17:30] <jonfhancock> Lynoure: good point
[17:30] <parkin> my adept manager doesnt start, it just loads for a while and then closes
[17:31] <rishi> jonfhancock:so what the problem with my vista???
[17:31] <viperserv2> yeah i want to gamble things cause tech support will just install a new os at the data center
[17:31] <pramod> rishi: the problem is with vista... not ubuntu.... u might have deleted an essential partition in vista...
[17:31] <pramod> rishi: while making partition for ur ubuntu...
[17:32] <rishi> it has only two partion
[17:32] <rishi> one for recovery and one for vista
[17:32] <rishi> and i just resize vist partion
[17:32] <jonfhancock> You resized the partition?
[17:32] <jonfhancock> hmm
[17:32] <rishi> yes
[17:33] <rishi> so what??
[17:33] <viperserv2> /dev/sda1 * 1<PHONE_NUMBER>+ fd Linux raid autodetect
[17:33] <viperserv2> /dev/sda2 393 91136 728901180 fd Linux raid autodetect
[17:33] <viperserv2> /dev/sda3 91137 91201 522112+ 82 Linux swap / Solaris
[17:34] <viperserv2> /dev/sdb1 * 1<PHONE_NUMBER>+ fd Linux raid autodetect
[17:34] <viperserv2> /dev/sdb2 393 91136 728901180 fd Linux raid autodetect
[17:34] <viperserv2> /dev/sdb3 91137 91201 522112+ 82 Linux swap / Solaris
[17:34] <jonfhancock> rishi can you post your /boot/grub/menu.lst to pastebin.com?
[17:34] <stdin> !paste > viperserv2
[17:34] <mefisto__> rishi: can you mount the vista partition in kubuntu?
[17:34] <genii> pramod: Please report result of : lspci -nnv -s 80.01.0    (pastebin and not here please)
[17:35] <rishi> at the time i have not that laptop so i acn't
[17:35] <rishi> can't
[17:35] <jonfhancock> ah
[17:35] <Lynoure> viperserv2: Like I said, I won't walk you through it, but you can use http://pastebin.com/d32b68a4a as inspiration, but not recommended at all to be done remotely or on a system with unreplacable data, and you'll need to figure out yourself what device is which. (Read: not recommended at all) Good luck.
[17:35] <rishi> jonfhancock:but
[17:35] <rishi> when i go to hp services
[17:35] <rishi> then they tell
[17:35] <rishi> me that there is an
[17:36] <jonfhancock> rishi: make sure the line to boot vista in your menu.lst looks like this http://www.pronetworks.org/forum/about78184.html
[17:36] <stdin> !enter | rishi
[17:36] <rishi> ok
[17:36] <genii> pramod: I *suspect* you have an ATI SoundBlaster SB450 attached to a VIA bus but want to know for sure
[17:36] <rishi> special think with dv series of hp that they only support vista
[17:37] <jonfhancock> rishi: Past that, you may have damaged your windows partition when you resized it.  If you're desparate, use the vista CD to repair the vista boot loader and try that
[17:37] <viperserv2> none of them work
[17:37] <pramod> genii: WAt's pastebin??? :S
[17:37] <parkin> i can get the adept manager to start
[17:37] <genii> !pastebin | pramod
[17:37] <rishi> i tryed to install a new vista on my laptop but when i boot my system from taht dvd then it cant boot with it
[17:37] <parkin> its just loads then dissapears
[17:37] <pramod> genii: i have no soundblater card...
[17:38] <Lynoure> viperserv2: and you'll prolly need to edit mdadm.conf in the end to do away with nagging which you'll get if the md is still there
[17:38] <genii> pramod: It will be a builtin card on the motherboard but not immediately recognised
[17:39] <pramod> genii: hmmm the card i am using is an integrated one...
[17:39] <rishi> ok i see that on that url it is clearly written that do not resize vista partion
[17:40] <rishi> so my mistake is that by mistake i resize vista partion
[17:40] <genii> pramod: A more exact model is what we are trying to find here, along with how it is attached
[17:41] <pramod> it's integrated on the mainboard...
[17:41] <jonfhancock> rishi: If you can mount the vista partition in linux, you can salvage the data
[17:41] <pramod> genii: a realtek soundcard
[17:41] <genii> pramod: builtin=integrated    The card may report as some VIA thing but instead be made by another maker and sort of spliced in.
[17:42] <rishi> jonfhancock:my ubuntu doesn't showing vista partions
[17:42] <narothepharoh> im having a problem with wine
[17:42] <pramod> genii: ok i will try to research it and tell you about it... :)
[17:43] <jonfhancock> rishi: you may have to mount it manually
[17:43] <jonfhancock> !fstab
[17:43] <jonfhancock> !mount
[17:43] <genii> pramod: OK. Get back to me when you have a better idea of the exact card, etc.
[17:43] <pramod> ok... thanks...
[17:43] <rishi> but i want to ask that when i boot my laptop from a fresh dvd of vista for a new install why it can't boot
[17:44] <narothepharoh> i recently updated to 8.04 and now when i try to browse the c drive in wine it says url not supported
[17:44] <rishi> and that dvd working coorectly on others
[17:44] <jonfhancock> rishi: that is an hp/vista question.
[17:44] <rishi> ok
[17:44] <parkin> .
[17:44] <rishi> i am just asking because if u have any idea about it
[17:45] <jonfhancock> rishi: I'm affraid I don't
[17:45] <jonfhancock> I don't use vista.
[17:45] <rishi> i also hate windows
[17:45] <jonfhancock> because Ubuntu kicks vista's rear
[17:45] <rishi> and i am building my own linux
[17:46] <rishi> it will comes to market soon
[17:46] <narothepharoh> anyone have any ideas?
[17:46] <rishi> with name ILINUX
[17:46] <jonfhancock> narothepharoh: what file browser are you using?
[17:46] <faderhval> something good have happent with kubuntu 8.04! i can actually install and update World of warcraft with no major problems go Kubuntu
[17:46] <jonfhancock> konqueror or dolphin?
[17:46] <pramod> rishi: how u build ur own linux?
[17:46] <genii> jonfhancock: I need to keep Vista on my laptop for warrantee purposes, but I've booted up to it a total of 3 times
[17:46] <narothepharoh> it is thunar
[17:47] <rishi> i am just download the latest kernel
[17:47] <rishi> then compilie all pakages
[17:47] <narothepharoh> jonfhancock i believe it is dolphin
[17:47] <rishi> and all basic utils
[17:47] <jonfhancock> narothepharoh: hmm not familiar with that one.  try it in another browser.  mine opens ok in konqueror
[17:47] <rishi> first i make a temporary minimal syatem
[17:48] <rishi> which is able to boot my system only nothing else
[17:48] <pramod> rishi: there is a site called linuxfromscratch... i want to use that....
[17:48] <narothepharoh> jonfhancock: how do i get konqueror
[17:48] <fildo> !games
[17:48] <jonfhancock> narothepharoh: you're in kubuntu right?
[17:48] <rishi> pramod:great that a good one
[17:48] <narothepharoh> jonfhancock: yes
[17:48] <jonfhancock> narothepharoh: it should be installed already
[17:48] <rishi> pramod:do u use it before??/
[17:49] <jonfhancock> under internet in the menu
[17:49] <genii> pramod: It is a very good site if you want to get in-depth. Although I have not visited there now in a few years
[17:49] <narothepharoh> it uses the thunar file browser
[17:49] <narothepharoh> i dont know how to change that
[17:49] <pramod> rishi: not yet... currently busy with exams... will complete exams first... then will take a look at it... :)
[17:50] <pramod> Hey guys got a question...
[17:51] <pramod> Am a student of computer science and engineering... With ur experience... which linux distribution u recommend me to use?
[17:51] <jonfhancock> narothepharoh: hmm mine opens in dolphin too... I'm not sure what to tell you
[17:51] <narothepharoh> jonfhancock: i have tried to uninstall and install too
[17:52] <rickey> adept manger keep frezing up
[17:52] <jonfhancock> pramod: I'm a cs student too.  I've settled on kubuntu
[17:52] <jonfhancock> narothepharoh: you mean uninstall and install wine? or kubuntu?
[17:52] <mefisto__> how to make konqueror default file browser? is that the problem jonfhancock and narothepharoh?
[17:52] <rishi> if follow lfs then it's very good
[17:52] <pramod> ok.. thanks... Kubuntu is felxible... and can play a lot with it even if it's risky... :P
[17:52] <jonfhancock> rickey: use apt-get on the command line.  it's easier and faster
[17:52] <narothepharoh> mefisto: yes
[17:52] <rishi> pramod: u  can find me in the channel of lfs-support also
[17:52] <rishi> with name peeyush
[17:52] <narothepharoh> jonfhancock: wine
[17:53] <genii> pramod: The programming tools in KDE like KDevelop make Kubuntu preferable for the *buntu set of linux if you plab to do programming, etc
[17:53] <genii> *plan
[17:53] <rickey> what is the reset command
[17:53] <mefisto__> narothepharoh: first, start konqueror (alt-F2, then type konqueror)
[17:53] <genii> !aptfix | rickey
[17:53] <jonfhancock> pramod: I'm also using eclipse for developing in Java, C++ and PHP
[17:53] <BluesKaj> mefisto__, Open Konqueror/Settings/Configure Konqueror/File Associations/ under "Known Types" choose Inode/System Directory/Application Preference Order , move Konqueror to the top , click apply, close konq configure.Then open Konqueror Settings on the toolbar and choose "Configure View Profiles",choose "File Managaement",then save
[17:53] <jonfhancock> pramod: which is nice because it's cross platform
[17:54] <rishi> promod:do u want to ask any question abot linux from scratch??
[17:54] <mefisto__> what BluesKaj said ^^
[17:54] <narothepharoh> mefisto: The command "konqueror" failed to run:
[17:54] <narothepharoh> Failed to execute child process "konqueror" (No such file or directory)
[17:54] <pramod> rishi: Thanks for the help... will really need you...
[17:54] <viperserv2> i hate raid1 so much
[17:54] <genii> !helpersnack | BluesKaj
[17:54] <rishi> ok thak u
[17:54] <pramod> rishi: currently i got exams... so will look at it after exams...
[17:55] <rishi> ok
[17:55] <sujith> Hi can anyone help me with how can i install tar.gz file
[17:55] <pramod> rishi: can i get ur contacs? msn...
[17:55] <BluesKaj> mefisto__, the same goes for 'system directory '
[17:55] <sujith> this is a theme file
[17:55] <jonfhancock> sujith: you don't really install a tar.gz, you just unzip it
[17:55] <rishi> yes
[17:55] <sujith> ya i unzipped it
[17:55] <jonfhancock> so what was inside?
[17:55] <narothepharoh> mefisto: i am installing it now
[17:55] <genii> sujith: Firstly: Was it some program thet you could not install by the package manager that you need this tar.gz file for
[17:55] <rishi> u can contat me on my email
[17:55] <sujith> i want to install a theme file which is in tar.gz format
[17:56] <rishi><EMAIL_ADDRESS>[17:56] <mefisto__> narothepharoh: did you remove konqueror?
[17:56] <narothepharoh> mefisto: no
[17:56] <sujith> i want to install a new theme rishi
[17:56] <sujith> it is tar.gz format
[17:56] <rishi> pramod:in which standered u r studying????
[17:56] <narothepharoh> mefisto: i dont think so unless when i updated it did it
[17:56] <sujith> i unzipped it
[17:56] <rishi> sujith:u just untar it
[17:57] <sujith> ya
[17:57] <pramod> rishi: final year.. University of Mauritius...
[17:57] <BluesKaj> mefisto__, one more thing , choose directory in the inode tree as well as sytem directory
[17:57] <sujith> but i dont know how to install in linux
[17:57] <rishi> sujith:then
[17:57] <jonfhancock> sujith: is there a README or INSTALL file in the folder that was created?
[17:57] <sujith> it is theme file
[17:57] <pramod> rishi: BSc... :D
[17:57] <mefisto__> BluesKaj: it's narothepharoh that needs help with konqueror
[17:57] <sujith> but i think i need to compile it
[17:57] <sujith> right?
[17:58] <rishi> pramod:ok i am a first year student from india
[17:58] <rishi> i am doing B.TECH in computer science
[17:58] <jonfhancock> sujith: maybe, but maybe not.  It may just be one of those things you drop into a folder, or run a script
[17:58] <jonfhancock> sujith: compiling can be complicated
[17:58] <rishi> sujith:is there any reame file??
[17:58] <genii> sujith:Fast theme install instructions in KDE http://www.mepis.org/docs/en/index.php/Install-KDE-Themes/Icons
[17:59] <sujith> there is no readme file
[17:59] <rishi> sujith:ok
[17:59] <pramod> rishi: cool... great ambitions... ;)
[17:59] <rishi> so just follw genii url
[17:59] <rishi> it's better
[17:59] <rishi> pramod:thank u
[18:00] <rishi> sujith:r u using KDE???
[18:00] <BluesKaj> oops sorry mefisto__ ;) I hope he read my post
[18:00] <sujith> yes
[18:01] <BluesKaj> too many tasks
[18:01] <pramod> Got to reinstall Linux 8.04 in the end of next month?
[18:01] <rishi> ok then follow that url
[18:01] <mefisto__> BluesKaj: he was having trouble even starting konqueror. narothepharoh, is konqueror working now?
[18:02] <narothepharoh> i am still getting this error  Failed to open URL "~/.wine/drive_c".   The URL "~/.wine/drive_c" is not supported.
[18:02] <BluesKaj> trying to open konq in wine ?
[18:02] <rishi> sujith:that url has complete refrence for u just follow it
[18:02] <narothepharoh> mefisto_: i have konqueror all set now and still this
[18:03] <rishi> genii;thank u for that url
[18:03] <BluesKaj> narothepharoh, in wine ?
[18:03] <mefisto__> BluesKaj: trying to navigate to the wine c: drive directory, in konqueror
[18:03] <narothepharoh> blueskaj: i did what you wrote to make konqueror default
[18:03] <fidelio> hi
[18:04] <narothepharoh> i dont know whats up with wine
[18:04] <BluesKaj> narothepharoh, ok good
[18:04] <fidelio> anybody knows the command to list hda devices?
[18:04] <narothepharoh> it was working fine before i updated to 8.04
[18:04] <genii> rishi: np
[18:04] <mefisto__> narothepharoh: what if you replace the ~ with /home/narothepharaoh/ ?
[18:05] <Lynoure> fidelio: not sure what you mean,  ls /dev/hda*  maybe
[18:05] <BluesKaj> narothepharoh, what are you trying to run on wine ?
[18:05] <fidelio> thanks Lyn: this command does not work unfortunately
[18:06] <narothepharoh> Blueskaj: a windows game marine sharpshooter or anything
[18:06] <narothepharoh> nothing works
[18:06] <Lynoure> fidelio: can you tell in different words what you want?
[18:07] <mefisto__> narothepharoh: go to your ~/.wine directory and make sure the drive_c dir is still there
[18:07] <fidelio> list all my hda devices to get info on my external HD
[18:07] <BluesKaj> narothepharoh, you don't need to use konq to navigate to the game
[18:09] <mefisto__> fidelio: what about ls /dev/sd*
[18:09] <Lynoure> fidelio: that command I gave you should list all devices (partition device nodes) for hda, if there is none, the system might not see hda at all
[18:09] <BluesKaj> narothepharoh, find the game-install.exe and  , right click on it , choose install with , choose wine
[18:09] <rishi> ok buy buy to all
[18:10] <narothepharoh> Blueskaj: it works to install it but when i try to run it i get nothing
[18:10] <rishi> i just ask one more intersting thing
[18:10] <mefisto__> narothepharoh: is it a directx game?
[18:10] <rishi> ububtu i totally free even shiping also
[18:10] <narothepharoh> mefisto_: yes
[18:11] <rishi> so how any orhanizer of all thise earn money for it???/
[18:11] <fidelio> Lyn: this is what i get -ls: cannot access /dev/hda*: No such file or directory
[18:11] <narothepharoh> wine
[18:11] <mefisto__> narothepharoh: I've never got wine to run anything directx
[18:11] <BluesKaj> narothepharoh, open it with wine as well
[18:11] <Mkop> I'm trying to setup printers, but there is no printers module in KControl
[18:11] <asdasdqweqweqw>  I am unable to drag windows from one virtual desktop to another after installing compiz. Is there something I am missing? I tried several methods I found using google, but none worked
[18:12] <mefisto__> fidelio: try ls /dev/sd* instead of hda
[18:12] <narothepharoh> Blueskaj: i try to open it with wine but nothing happens
[18:12] <pramod> Where can i get some idea about Fedora Linux?
[18:13] <rishi> pramod:u cah go to fedora site
[18:13] <rishi> or join chnnel of fedora
[18:13] <BluesKaj> maybe mefisto__ has a point , about it requiring directX , there maybe a workaround but Ican't recall now what that is
[18:13] <pramod> wat's the fedora channel?
[18:13] <fidelio> Lyn:/dev/sda  /dev/sda1  /dev/sda2  /dev/sda3  /dev/sda4  /dev/sda5
[18:13] <rishi> pramod:u can find it in IRC channel list
[18:13] <rishi> easily
[18:14] <Lynoure> fidelio: so no hda at all.
[18:14] <rishi> pramod:or use fedora forums
[18:14] <rishi> pramod:on fedora web site
[18:14] <pramod> ok thanks
[18:14] <Mkop> does anyone have any ideas for me?
[18:15] <rishi> Mkop;pls tell ur problem
[18:15] <narothepharoh> well what do i do about this?   Failed to open URL "~/.wine/drive_c".  The URL "~/.wine/drive_c" is not supported.
[18:15] <Mkop> there is no Printers module in KControl
[18:15] <Mkop> I should point out, I'm using andLinux and whatever KDE stuff I have I installed via Synaptic
[18:16] <rishi> Mkop;so u want to use printer???
[18:16] <mefisto__> Mkop: printers is under the peripherals section in kcontrol. Also in systemsettings
[18:16] <rishi> promod:http://fedoraproject.org/
[18:17] <rishi> promod: http://fedoraproject.org/
[18:17] <Mkop> it's supposed to be under peripherals, but isn't
[18:17] <BluesKaj> narothepharoh, the forums all seem to suggest installing cedega to play directX games on wine
[18:17] <pramod> rishi: thanks i got it...
[18:17] <mefisto__> narothepharoh: what about ~/.wine  ??  does that exist? is there anything inside that dir?
[18:18] <rishi> promod: ok so find it there
[18:18] <BluesKaj> ok errands to do , BBL
[18:18] <rishi> Mkop:is problem is solved???/
[18:19] <narothepharoh> Blueskaj: how do i get cedega? i tried sudo apt-get but it says couldnt find it
[18:19] <rishi> is any one have any idea about MANDRIVA??
[18:19] <Mkop> rishi: no
[18:19] <mefisto__> narothepharoh: cedega is a commercial version of wine
[18:19] <Mkop> the module is not there - peripherals contains Joystick, Mouse, and Storage Media
[18:20] <rishi> Mkop:r u using root???
[18:20] <pramod> well after seeing the net... and looking everywhere... i think Kubuntu is the best option...
[18:20] <Mkop> yes
[18:20] <mefisto__> Mkop: what about in systemsettings?
[18:20] <genii> narothepharoh: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Cedega             the CVS link
[18:20] <pramod> it's been more popular than fedora
[18:21] <rishi> promod: ok
[18:21] <Mkop> do you mean System Administration in KControl?
[18:21] <Mkop> there's no printers in there
[18:21] <rishi> promod: is ur printer is supportaable to linux
[18:21] <mefisto__> Mkop: in kmenu, system settings, or type systemsettings in konsole
[18:22] <rishi> promod: soory i am just asking to Mkop
[18:22] <Lynoure> Mkop: and you are in kde3?
[18:22] <rishi> Mkop: is ur printer is supportaable to linux
[18:22] <Mkop> bash: systemsettings: command not found
[18:23] <Mkop> I haven't even gotten to the part of adding the printer itself yet
[18:23] <rishi> Mkop: is ur printer is supportaable to linux???
[18:23] <Mkop> how do I know what version of kde I have?
[18:23] <mefisto__> Mkop: are you running kubuntu?
[18:23] <Mkop> I'm running andLinux, and I should be able to access the printer via samba
[18:23] <genii> Mkop: in Konsole:      lsb_release -a
[18:23] <Mkop> no, I'm running andLinux with some KDE stuff installed
[18:24] <genii> Oh KDE ver
[18:24] <Lynoure> what is andLinux?
[18:24] <Mkop> it's a thing to run linux natively in Windows
[18:24] <genii> Mkop: rightclick KMenu..Panel Menu..Help...About KDE
[18:25] <tales_2010> is there a way to change the way you open applications or files on kde4? I want to change it to double-click instead of only one..
[18:25] <Mkop> I'm using KDE release 3.5.8
[18:26] <rishi> tales_2010;u go to the system seetings
[18:26] <Lynoure> Mkop: http://www.andlinux.org/faq.php point "Printer Setup"
[18:26] <mefisto__> Mkop: but it's not kubuntu, right?
[18:26] <Mkop> no, it's not kubuntu
[18:26] <Lynoure> Mkop: and next time maybe #andLinux
[18:26] <rishi> tales_2010:then u can easily find it there
[18:27] <Mkop> I'm trying to follow the instructions there, but there is no Printers Module in KControl
[18:27] <genii> Mkop: How did you decide #kubuntu was the place to get kde/andLinux support?? ;)
[18:27] <Mkop> I was in #ubuntu and they suggested I ask here
[18:27] <tales_2010> rishi: oh that's right, thank you
[18:27] <Mkop> andLinux is running on/in/around (I'm not sure which) ubuntu
[18:29] <mefisto__> Mkop: you could try installing kde-systemsettings, if your distro is ubuntu-based
[18:29] <freitasx> hello
[18:29] <rishi> tales_2010:ok
[18:30] <rishi> tales_2010:ur welcome
[18:30] <rishi> freitasx;hi
[18:30] <freitasx> hello
[18:30] <freitasx> I'from Brazil
[18:30] <rishi> freitasx:can i help u???
[18:31] <freitasx> and I don speak english well
[18:31] <freitasx> :)
[18:31] <rishi> freitasx:so what????
[18:31] <pramod> freitasx: do not worry.. we speak english well.... :)
[18:31] <freitasx> :)
[18:31] <freitasx> I know
[18:32] <genii> !br | freitasx If you ask clearly in English here we may be able to assist, otherwise
[18:32] <tales_2010> freitasx: or speak to me in pm and I'll translate your question :P
[18:32] <freitasx> ok
[18:32] <genii> Remember to register if you haven't already to be able to PM
[18:33] <Mkop> OK, I installed kde-systemsettings, but there's no printers item in there either
[18:33] <freitasx> I was using the virtualbox  but I discoverd that it was a bug because my system dont work very well
[18:34] <rishi> freitasx:pls exlian
[18:34] <rishi> explain
[18:35] <pramod> Can anyone tell me wat's the virtualbox???
[18:35] <freitasx> the system before some minutes no boot more
[18:35] <freitasx> virtualbox-ose
[18:35] <faderhval> uhm...any work around the Audio driver crash when restarting X in 8.04 ? or is a reboot the only solution?
[18:35] <freitasx> thereś a book this program
[18:36] <freitasx> there ś a bog in the kernel 2.6
[18:36] <rishi> freitasx:i thnk no
[18:36] <mefisto__> faderhval: sudo /etc/init.d/alsa-utils restart
[18:37] <rishi> freitasx:pls tell commplete version of kernel
[18:37] <freitasx> <IP_ADDRESS>-generic
[18:37] <faderhval> thanks
[18:38] <rishi> freitasx:wait for while i am jst checking it
[18:38] <freitasx> Iḿ install again windows Xp with virtualbox
[18:38] <rishi> freitasx:why???
[18:38] <freitasx> because I can boot my virtualsystem
[18:39] <freitasx> can't
[18:39] <to0om> hi all
[18:39] <to0om> my kded has a continous cpu usage of 100%, does anyone know why?
[18:39] <mefisto__> Mkop: does "kcmshell printers"  do anything?
[18:40] <faderhval> mefisto__: thanks but it didn't work i still get "Xine was unable to initiallzie any audio drivers"
[18:40] <Mkop> kcmshell (kdelibs): WARNING: Could not find module 'printers'.
[18:40] <rishi> to0om:what linux u r using??
[18:40] <to0om> rishi: kubuntu hardy heron
[18:40] <rishi> to0om:tell me configratioj of ur system
[18:41] <rishi> to0om:configartion
[18:41] <to0om> rishi: nothing special, i run kde with (mostly) default settings
[18:41] <to0om> rishi: and i'm using dualhead
[18:41] <mefisto__> Mkop: is kdeprint installed? I'm out of ideas after this one
[18:42] <Mkop> no, it wasn't
[18:42] <Mkop> I'm installing it now
[18:43] <rishi> to0om:dualhead???
[18:43] <to0om> rishi: 2 monitors
[18:43] <to0om> rishi: i have a notebook and an external dvi display attached
[18:44] <Mkop> ok, that fixed it :-)
[18:44] <rishi> to0om:i am just asking confrigation of ur cpu
[18:44] <rishi> to0om:e.g. processer,ram etc
[18:44] <genii> Mkop: I think "printers" is a module which is bundled in kde-guidance metapackage
[18:44] <to0om> rishi: cpu configuration? intel core 2 duo 2x2.0 ghz, 2 gb of ram
[18:45] <to0om> rishi: asus a8js notebook
[18:46] <rishi> to0om:ok
[18:46] <rishi> to0om:is this problem comes last days or comes regularly
[18:47] <to0om> rishi: yesterday, i migrated to hardy, and since then i have this problem
[18:48] <rishi> to0om:do install any new software or a new hardware???
[18:48] <rishi> to0om:do u install any new software or a new hardware???
[18:48] <to0om> rishi: well, yesterday i installed kubuntu and after first boot, i installed lots of things, such as apache, php, mysql server, thunderbird, ...
[18:49] <to0om> rishi: no hardware changes
[18:49] <rishi> to0om:ok
[18:49] <rishi> to0om:there is something in ur softwares which is unsupported or courrepted
[18:50] <to0om> rishi: and why should that lead to 100% cpu usage of kded?
[18:51] <rishi> to0om:i don't understand what is kded is u mean kde???
[18:52] <to0om> thanks rishi for you help, but i guess you don't know what i'm talking about
[18:52] <genii> I noticed this 100% usage with kded will happen if you are trying to run for instance a kde4 app from in kde3
[18:52] <to0om> rishi: kded is the KDE daemon
[18:53] <rishi> to0om:ok
[18:53] <rishi> to0om:i am asking because i am just confused
[18:53] <to0om> genii: there's no kde4 app running
[18:53] <rishi> to0om:so go to control centre or in system settings as root
[18:53] <to0om> i don't even have the libs at this time
[18:53] <SSJ_GZ> to0om: I think I heard somewhere that device auto-mounting can cause 100% kded CPU usage with KDE3.5.9
[18:54] <rishi> to0om:and check out about any running services
[18:54] <to0om> SSJ_GZ: that could be the problem
[18:54] <to0om> SSJ_GZ: i'm using device automount
[18:54] <slow-motion> re
[18:54] <SSJ_GZ> to0om: explore in Section~\ref{sec:stubbornsetswith_h}.
[18:54] <SSJ_GZ> oops
[18:54] <SSJ_GZ> to0om: https://bugs.launchpad.net/kdelibs/+bug/194474
[18:54] <SSJ_GZ> Stupid Klipper!
[18:55] <to0om> SSJ_GZ: sounds like my problem
[18:55] <to0om> ok i'll dig into it
[18:55] <to0om> thanks for you help guys
[18:55] <SSJ_GZ> np:)
[18:57] <darkmatter> hi
[18:57] <rishi> genni:so what the solution of that problem???
[18:58] <darkmatter> is it true that Dolphin for 3.5.9 is not maintained?
[18:59] <genii> rishi: When I had that kded issue I just forcibly killed it.
[18:59] <SSJ_GZ> darkmatter: It's certainly not maintained by the guy who started the project.
[18:59] <darkmatter> SSJ_GZ that's rather diplomatic answer :)
[18:59] <rishi> genni:but that's not the solution dude
[19:00] <SSJ_GZ> darkmatter: Also the correct one ;)
[19:00] <albuntu> is there any gui manager for lamp in kde ?
[19:00] <genii> rishi: I know :)
[19:01] <darkmatter> i just come across the bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/dolphin/+bug/136695 and I was shocked
[19:01] <rishi> albuntu:lamp meams???
[19:01] <darkmatter> aha, ubottu knows more
[19:02] <genii> albuntu: No. server comes without gui for security. Instead, install a web control panel for which program you prefer gui control of.
[19:03] <albuntu> genii: ok you mean like phpmyadmin , webmin and things like this ? will them do the trick ?
[19:04] <fdoving> darkmatter: yeah, you should change the default filemanager back to konqueror. dolphin-kde3version is broken and won't be fixed.
[19:04] <fdoving> it just looks rather good.
[19:04] <fdoving> a nice alternative file manager.
[19:05] <darkmatter> fdoving: i've done that already... except... why is it set up as default in KDE3 Heron, which came out 2 weeks ago?
[19:06] <melkor> hello I have just installed kde3 and I am wondering how do I make the small 4x4 application launchers
[19:06] <fdoving> darkmatter: the majority wanted dolphin to be the default. it was discussed early in the development cycle. for the record, i voted against it beeing default.
[19:08] <darkmatter> fdoving: it is not very fortunate...
[19:09] <darkmatter> fdoving: i consider it showstopper for recomending system to newbies
[19:10] <darkmatter> fdoving: nevermind, thanks to info
[19:10] <fdoving> darkmatter: it is, but changing back to konqueror is rather simple, even for new users. (right-click folder -> properties -> wrench -> move konqueror to the top of the list)
[19:10] <rishi_dhingra> albuntu:lamp meams???
[19:10] <stefan-f> !usb
[19:11] <rishi_dhingra> therer is a network problem soory for delay
[19:13] <darkmatter> fdoving: well, it is PR disaster..."try this cool system, but do not forget to change default file manager for a one more reliable"...
[19:14] <darkmatter> fdoving: anyway, it is not your fault
[19:14] <melkor> Is there a problem with dolphin
[19:14] <fdoving> darkmatter: yep.
[19:15] <D_Eagle> i m facing serious problem in kubuntu, I can't shutdown my computer ! :(can any body help ?big problem while shutting down... i always hard shutdown my computer :(
[19:19] <D_Eagle>  just blank screen appears and stays like that
[19:21] <jussi01> D_Eagle: what happens when you do: sudo shutdown -h now
[19:21] <jussi01> ?
[19:21] <wojci_> hi all
[19:21] <D_Eagle> just blank screen appears and stays like that
[19:22] <darkmatter> you can at least try ALT SYSRQ R , S, E, I, U, B ke combination to avoid cold reboot
[19:22] <D_Eagle> in that blank screen, if i press ctrl + alt+ backspace, login screen appears from where if i shutdown, kubuntu shutdowns.. but still my computer doesn't turn off
[19:22] <BluesKaj> D_Eagle, are you running hardy with an ati graphics card ?
[19:22] <D_Eagle> nope
[19:22] <wojci_> how can i add repositories to kubuntu 7.04?
[19:23] <D_Eagle> in  hardy
[19:23] <fdoving> !repositories | wojci_
[19:23] <D_Eagle> but with intel 945 chipset
[19:23] <D_Eagle> it used to be okay before
[19:23] <wojci_> thanks
[19:23] <D_Eagle> but.. after i installed few things. like avant window navigator and made few changes in login manager thenthe problem started
[19:24] <BluesKaj> ahh, kde4 ?
[19:25] <D_Eagle> yeah kde4
[19:25] <D_Eagle> but the problem is there in kde3 too
[19:25] <BluesKaj> ok, perhaps the ppl at #kubuntu-kde4 can help
[19:26] <D_Eagle> i just been thru there
[19:26] <rishi_> hi
[19:26] <D_Eagle> :D
[19:26] <rishi_> i am back
[19:26] <D_Eagle> they referred me there
[19:26] <D_Eagle> here
[19:27] <wesley> !adeptfix
[19:28] <BluesKaj> !avant
[19:28] <MintLars> Hi, I need some help debugging. The X-server crashes with sig11 when trying to log into first class client. However, there's at least a third party involved, since login in fcc doesn't cause the crash when it's the only app running on the desktop. I need to know what to do to send some relevant bug info.
[19:32] <francesco> !it
[19:32] <viperserv2> how do i install freens?
[19:32] <darkmatter> !fstab
[19:35] <D_Eagle> !shutdown
[19:35] <D_Eagle> !halt
[19:39] <faderhval> anyone in here been succesfull with WoW on 8.04 hardy??
[19:40] <D_Eagle> !logout
[19:42] <alexman> hello
[19:42] <alexman> i have a question
[19:42] <BunnyRevolution> ask
[19:42] <D_Eagle> then u shud ask :D
[19:42] <alexman> i recently discovered my monitor supports 1600X1200 res, but once i enabled my nvidia drivers in linux it doesnt support my res
[19:43] <alexman> so my prob is how do i get my nice 1600X1200 res?
[19:44] <BluesKaj> D_Eagle, look in your /etc/X11/xorg.conf file for aline that says "composite = 0" , change that line to "composite = enable"
[19:45] <alexman> anyone?
[19:46] <D_Eagle> there isn't any line like "composite"
[19:47] <BluesKaj> Section "Extensions"
[19:47] <BluesKaj>   Option "Composite" "Enable"
[19:47] <BluesKaj> EndSection
[19:47] <D_Eagle> BluesKaj, my xorg.conf doesn't even contain "composite" word :S
[19:47] <BluesKaj> copy and paste those lines to the bottom of the file and save , if you have permissions
[19:48] <D_Eagle> oh sure
[19:48] <D_Eagle> okie..hope this solves my problem :)
[19:48] <D_Eagle> thnx for  everything
[19:48] <BluesKaj> thank me if it works
[19:49] <viperserv2> hmm with freenx what windows should i use?
[19:49] <viperserv2> kde or gnome
[19:49] <alexman> gnome
[19:50] <alexman> i recently discovered my monitor supports 1600X1200 res, but once i enabled my nvidia drivers in linux it doesnt support my res
[19:54] <Walzmyn> !dolphin
[19:54] <binde> slt
[19:55] <PovAddict> I have compiz, and I set it to use the desktop cube
[19:55] <PovAddict> how do I add more desktops?
[19:55] <Fujisan> trivia: Which scifi movie stars Bill Clinton?
[19:55] <Fujisan> PovAddict oh man i missed ya
[19:56] <PovAddict> if I go to Configure desktops and change the count, the change doesn't take effect
[19:56] <Walzmyn> PovAddict, are you using the gui?
[19:56] <Fujisan> did you miss me too PovAddict?
[19:56] <Fujisan> =p
[19:56] <darkmatter> fstab now looks unfamiliar, what does the <pass> parameter means?
[19:56] <PovAddict> and I can't find it on CompizConfig either
[19:57] <Walzmyn> PovAddict, compiz calls their desktops viewports - that's what your looking for.
[19:57] <PovAddict> "Viewport switcher" has no option for number of viewports
[19:57] <Fujisan> PovAddict listen to Walzmyn
[19:58] <wayneandleanne> can somebody help me please, on running mythtv-setup i get an error "cannot login to database" can anybody help?
[19:58] <PovAddict> found it - it's in General Options :)
[19:59] <Fujisan> PovAddict you are welcome
[19:59] <Fujisan> :)
[19:59] <Fujisan> we are friends now PovAddict?
[20:00] <PovAddict> although the pager on the KDE panel still shows two
[20:01] <clayd> con someone point me in the right direction to set up dual monitors (spanned desktop)
[20:02] <Fujisan> PovAddict
[20:02] <Fujisan> my best friend on the globe
[20:02] <Fujisan> bye
[20:02] <Fujisan> Nicolas
[20:02] <Fujisan> Alvarez
[20:04] <giacomo> !it
[20:05] <wayneandleanne> is there anybody here with any experiance with mythtv?
[20:07] <clayd> any ideas on dual screen setup.  i dont know why i can find this.  I am using 8.04
[20:07] <ek> Anyone here know why my sound would stop working once I try to play music via Amarok or MPlayer?
[20:07] <ek> When I log into KDE, it works fine. All KDE sounds work. But, as soon as I open Amarok nothing works anymore.
[20:08] <ek> clayd: http://www.astahost.com/info.php/help-using-dual-monitors-kde-kubuntu_t12101.html
[20:08] <ek> That help?
[20:09] <European-African> hey guys, just installed kde-desktop for ubuntu, and i am very confused? like where is the synapic package manager?
[20:09] <clayd> you have to install it.
[20:09] <clayd> sudo apt-get install synapic
[20:09] <clayd> something like that
[20:09] <European-African> does it not come preinstalled
[20:10] <clayd> no
[20:10] <European-African> what is adept
[20:10] <clayd> i just installed it this morning
[20:10] <p_quarles> well, Adept comes preinstalled
[20:10] <faisal> i want to learn about installing grub and playing with it. Plz help me
[20:10] <p_quarles> that is the KDE graphical apt manager
[20:10] <jussi01> !grub | faisal
[20:10] <clayd> what the last person said :)
[20:10] <European-African> what is the best package manager for kde
[20:11] <faisal> Thx alot dear
[20:11] <European-African> the one that comes with it?
[20:11] <BunnyRevolution> European-African: adept is the equivalant
[20:11] <clayd> i like synapic
[20:11] <European-African> or the spm
[20:11] <p_quarles> European-African, it depends on the distro
[20:11] <BunnyRevolution> adept works well
[20:11] <p_quarles> for Kubuntu, adept is the best; some people like synaptic, but that requires Gtk libs
[20:11] <usamahashimi> Hello Everyon!
[20:11] <ubuntu> my kubuntu 8.04 hardy heron linux is not playing .mp3. Can anyone help in teling how to configure Amarok?
[20:11] <fdoving> !mp3 | ubuntu
[20:12] <European-African> ok, will try adept, this is all so confusing coming from gnome!
[20:12] <usamahashimi> How can I install my (restricted) nvidia driver?
[20:12] <clayd> so my turn.  any ideas on setting up multiple screens
[20:12] <European-African> thanx
[20:12] <p_quarles> European-African, you can also use aptitude (an ncurses program) or just command line apt
[20:12] <BunnyRevolution> European-African: actually, i think you'll enjoy it
[20:12] <acemo> can i configure the volume of flashplayer or firefox..?
[20:12] <faisal> How to get the classical KDE menu?
[20:12] <BunnyRevolution> acemo: configure?
[20:13] <usamahashimi> !nvidia
[20:13] <European-African> ok thanx agian
[20:13] <BunnyRevolution> faisal: i assume your using kde4
[20:13] <faisal> ya
[20:13] <BunnyRevolution> there is an option for that
[20:13] <acemo> BunnyRevolution: the sound of flash is about 3 times as loud as all other sound
[20:13] <faisal> plz
[20:13] <clayd> thanks
[20:14] <faisal> where is the option of KDe clasic menue?
[20:14] <usamahashimi> can anyone tell me that how can i install (restricted) nvidia driver?
[20:14] <European-African> how do you filter apps in adept? like just to games?
[20:15] <jussi01> !nvidea | usamahashimi
[20:15] <jussi01> !nvidia | usamahashimi
[20:16] <usamahashimi> jussi01: I check that but I can not find the restricted driver option in control panel
[20:16] <usamahashimi> jussi01: its missing
[20:16] <gra> holaA!!!
[20:16] <jussi01> !es | gra
[20:16] <European-African> BunnyRevolution: could u help me. how do you filter apps in adept? like just to games?
[20:16] <ifroog_> European-African, Simply search for "game"
[20:16] <jussi01> usamahashimi: did you look in the advanced section?
[20:16] <BunnyRevolution> European-African: there is a menu "add/remove programs"
[20:16] <BunnyRevolution> on you K menu
[20:16] <BunnyRevolution> there is a game's menu there
[20:17] <usamahashimi> jussi01: yes, i know that it used to be there but in kubuntu hardy heron, its missing
[20:17] <European-African> ok thanx
[20:17] <BunnyRevolution> European-African: something you might consider is looking at different linux game sites on the inet
[20:17] <jussi01> usamahashimi: are you on kde3 or 4?
[20:17] <European-African> ok will do
[20:17] <BunnyRevolution> that way you can peruse thier sites and find games that suits you before trial and error install
[20:17] <BunnyRevolution> European-African: what kind of games are you looking for?
[20:17] <usamahashimi> jussi01: i am using kde 3
[20:18] <European-African> 3d multiplayer shooter
[20:18] <ifroog_> BunnyRevolution, whats the best  lan game out there ?
[20:18] <BunnyRevolution> ah, there are several i can recommend
[20:18] <jussi01> usamahashimi: install jokey-kde
[20:18] <Nix3rrr> iam using ktorrent. when i launch it. it downloads at good speed. then after some time it decreases and gradually to zero speed. stailed. why?
[20:18] <jussi01> !info tremulous | European-African
[20:19] <usamahashimi>  jussi01package jokey-kde not found
[20:19] <acemo> is there a way to lower the volume of flashplayer in firefox? atm flashplayer is about 3 times as loud as the rest of the system
[20:19] <administrator> h
[20:19] <jussi01> usamahashimi: my bad, jockey-kde
[20:19] <European-African> ubottu: i have installed it? but dont know how to use it:)
[20:19] <BunnyRevolution> European-African: i assume like CTF, Quake, UnReal Tourney
[20:19] <usamahashimi> jussi01: jockey-kde is already the newest version
[20:20] <ifroog_> European-African, Nexuiz
[20:20] <jussi01> !bot | European-African
[20:20] <Nix3rrr> iam using ktorrent. when i launch it. it downloads at good speed. then after some time it decreases and gradually to zero speed. stailed. what can be wrong?
[20:20] <European-African> ok will try your suggestions, just looking on the net now
[20:20] <usamahashimi> jussi01: ok download started, thanks
[20:21] <jussi01> usamahashimi: :)
[20:21] <mwe> what package provides X includes?
[20:21] <European-African> lol
[20:21] <mwe> I'm trying to compile a window decoration style and ./configure complains about missing X includes.
[20:21] <ifroog_> European-African, http://www.alientrap.org/nexuiz/
[20:22] <jussi01> !info nexuiz | European-African
[20:22] <jussi01> !games
[20:22] <European-African> ifroog_and ubottu: ok will try, looks good
[20:23] <BunnyRevolution> nexuiz is a good first person shooter
[20:23] <fitzgerald> anyone else having trouble enabling the desktop cube in compiz fusion through simple-ccsm?
[20:23] <European-African> still trying to learn how to use the package manager and everything
[20:24] <jussi01> European-African: its simple, open adept, search for the package, click install, cliack apply
[20:24] <European-African> i was playing alien-arena but it had problems
[20:25] <European-African> jussi01: it is not a particular package i want, i like to browse
[20:25] <European-African> gnome had a good browsing environment
[20:26] <jussi01> European-African: use the tags on the right - they help :)
[20:27] <BunnyRevolution> European-African: i suspect your talking about firefox?
[20:27] <BunnyRevolution> as a browsing environment?
[20:27] <European-African> when i click them they do not filter the apps
[20:27] <jussi01> European-African: drag and drop to the i want/i do not want boxes
[20:28] <European-African> no, browsing the apps, like on adept or spm
[20:28] <faderhval> hey again peeps...im having some troubles with my video driver: I can install it in a terminal with out X of course and then start x back up again how ever if i reboot i can\t load KDM and I am forced into recovery mode and do an xfix to reconfigure my xorg.conf  any ideas_
[20:28] <faderhval> ?
[20:28] <fitzgerald>  anyone else having trouble enabling the desktop cube in compiz fusion through simple-ccsm?
[20:29] <jussi01> fitzgerald: you may want to ask in #compiz-fusion
[20:29] <fitzgerald> K
[20:29] <BunnyRevolution> European-African: you may be comfortable with synaptic.  you can install this if you wish.
[20:30] <BunnyRevolution> as that is what your used to.  you need to do what's comfortable for you
[20:30] <ek> Hrm. This really is rather strange.
[20:30] <ek> I don't understand what happens.
[20:30] <European-African> BunnyRevolution: i think it is still on from gnome setion, will try find it
[20:31] <koen_> hello
[20:31] <BunnyRevolution> you can open up a terminal and type in "sudo aptitude install synaptic"  be aware that it will install other programs you would not normally use in kubuntu
[20:31] <BluesKaj> synaptic works just fine in kubuntu. I use it more than adept
[20:31] <BunnyRevolution> hi koen_
[20:32] <BunnyRevolution> ek: what is strange?
[20:32] <koen_> how is it going out there?
[20:32] <BluesKaj> it goes
[20:33] <BunnyRevolution> for me, great.  sunny weather, and a lazy afternoon
[20:33] <koen_> nice  :d
[20:33] <European-African> ok found it
[20:33] <European-African> thanx
[20:33] <BunnyRevolution> np.  your welcome
[20:34] <koen_> are there people here who work with ubuntu ultimate edition?
[20:35] <koen_> ???
[20:35] <Matt1728> can someone tell me what is the best browser
[20:35] <koen_>  are there people here who are familiarwith ubuntu ultimate edition?
[20:36] <jussi01> !mint | koen_
[20:36] <European-African> i cant find the control center button they keep talking about, is it the systems setting button?
[20:36] <jussi01> !best > Matt1728
[20:37] <Dragnslcr> Matt1728- lynx, by far
[20:38] <powertool08> what are the different ways to get an embedded terminal?
[20:38] <Matt1728> cool thanks ill try lynx
[20:38] <BluesKaj> European-African, system settings/advanced
[20:38] <jussi01> Matt1728: lynx is a terminal browser...
[20:38] <Matt1728> really?
[20:38] <jussi01> yes...
[20:38] <jussi01> !info lynx
[20:39] <Matt1728> so just plain text?
[20:39] <jussi01> yes
[20:39] <Matt1728> ahh
[20:39] <European-African> BluesKaj, there is no system>>settings
[20:39] <Matt1728> is there anything better than firefox because it crasher for no reason on my computer
[20:39] <jussi01> Matt1728: what are you looking for in abrowser? then maybe we can help you?
[20:40] <European-African> there is system>>services
[20:40] <Matt1728> like a firefox type
[20:40] <BluesKaj> European-African, look in the k-menu
[20:40] <jussi01> !browsers | Matt1728
[20:40] <European-African> ok found it
[20:40] <jussi01> Matt1728: try some of those and find what you like
[20:40] <dhq> could anyone help me with my nvidia 8600m gt
[20:40] <Matt1728> thanks :)
[20:41] <European-African> thanx BluesKaj
[20:41] <ifroog_> dhq, No, No one can help !..
[20:41] <ifroog_> :D
[20:41] <dhq> ifroog_: lol
[20:42] <dhq> ifroog_: howcome ur not on #
[20:42] <ifroog_> dhq, Wazap !
[20:42] <European-African> BluesKaj, i do not think that is the control center, i want the one that loads when u type kcontrol in the terminal
[20:42] <Tokeiito> evening
[20:42] <European-African> they said there was a button on the kmenu
[20:43] <European-African> but i cant find it
[20:43] <dhq> ifroog_: how ya doin
[20:43] <ifroog_> dhq, cool !
[20:43] <jussi01> European-African: there is no menu icon for kcontrol
[20:43] <mefisto__> European-African: you can edit the menu and add kcontrol
[20:43] <BluesKaj> European-African, alt+f2, type kcontrol
[20:43] <Tokeiito> does KDE4 has pannel similar to Vista where i can store widgets/plasmoids, or similar to OSx where i can call widgets/plasmoids by moving mouse to the edge of screen?
[20:43] <European-African> ok thanx
[20:43] <dhq> ifroog_: i upgraded to hardy
[20:44] <European-African> is there another way of getting to it
[20:44] <European-African> other than through the terminal
[20:44] <jussi01> European-African: alt+f2 kcontrol
[20:45] <European-African> jussi01, i think that is just a small terminal
[20:45] <European-African> but thanx anyway
[20:45] <dhq> there seems to be a problem with the nvidia graphics driver in the propritary corner
[20:45] <ifroog_> dhq, remix ?
[20:45] <BluesKaj> it's the run command box , not the terminal
[20:45] <ek> BunnyRevolution: This sound card issue.
[20:46] <European-African> i want one so i do not have to type
[20:46] <ek> BunnyRevolution: When I would log into KDE, it would play the login sound and such. No problems.
[20:46] <dhq> ifroog_: naa kde3
[20:46] <ifroog_> dhq, cool..
[20:46] <ek> BunnyRevolution: Even the 'Test Sound' would work. But, once I opened Amarok, it would stop working.
[20:46] <ifroog_> dhq, So whats the first diff you noticed ?
[20:46] <ek> Unless, I logged out and back in again.
[20:46] <ek> So, I wasn't able to play any music.
[20:46] <ek> I'm about to test again as MPlayer seems to be working.
[20:46] <BunnyRevolution> great
[20:46] <European-African> BluesKaj, i think it is just a interface to the terminal
[20:47] <dhq> ifroog_: well it was kinda smooth
[20:47] <European-African> a one command terminal
[20:47] <mefisto__> European-African: right-click the Kmenu and "edit menu". Then you can add kcontrol wherever you want it to appear in the menu
[20:47] <European-African> mefisto__: thanx doing now
[20:48] <ek> Yup. Okay. Figured it out. Just had to manually add the snd-via82xx to the /etc/modules I guess.
[20:48] <ek> *shrug*
[20:48] <dhq> ifroog_: well i cant use nvidia propriaty drivers i am using vesa it sux
[20:48] <ek> Anyhow, creating playlists and finishing my unpacking. :p
[20:49] <ifroog_> dhq, Check bugzilla on this issue
[20:49] <dhq> ifroog_: i have been there
[20:53] <European-African> guys, do any of you know how to use tremulous?
[20:53] <European-African> the keys and all
[20:53] <European-African> or point me to a help file
[20:55] <mefisto__> European-African: sudo apt-get install tremulous-doc
[20:55] <European-African> and then where do you find it?
[20:55] <European-African> in the game itself?
[20:56] <mefisto__> don't know, maybe. or try typing "man tremulous"
[20:56] <European-African> k
[20:56] <European-African> thanx again :)
[21:02] <Hacker007> how to join yahoo voice chat rooms? plz if any body could help
[21:04] <Hacker007> how to join yahoo voice chat rooms? plz if any body could help
[21:05] <BluesKaj> Hacker007, goto yahoo.com
[21:05] <ganastasiou> hi everyone
[21:05] <Hacker007> how ti install source files in kubuntu?
[21:05] <ganastasiou> i have an ati carf and with ubuntu the tvout was working with kubuntu a black screen apears...
[21:06] <ganastasiou> anyone has a solution?
[21:06] <mefisto__> is it still working in ubuntu?
[21:07] <ganastasiou> i have removed ubuntu
[21:07] <ganastasiou> but i used to have tv out with this...the same conf...
[21:07] <ganastasiou> now tv out is just a black screen
[21:08] <mefisto__> did you reinstall with kubuntu? or you just removed ubuntu-desktop?
[21:08] <ganastasiou> reinstall
[21:08] <ganastasiou> kde3 if u want to know
[21:10] <mefisto__> so it's not the same conf at all. are you using the proprietary driver? (Hardware Drivers in Kmenu if you have hardy)
[21:10] <ganastasiou> i use the ati drivers...
[21:10] <ganastasiou> i have hardy but with kde3
[21:12] <mefisto__> so in Hardware Drivers, it shows the ati driver enabled?
[21:13] <ganastasiou> yeap
[21:13] <faderhval> good evening
[21:13] <Mystriven> good evening
[21:14] <faderhval> just a quick question how do i "purge" my sytem of all nvidia display drivers?
[21:14] <gtt> how can i get my flash to work correctly, every time.
[21:14] <jb_> good evening
[21:14] <jb_> i just re-installed kubunto
[21:14] <jb_> i forgot many things
[21:15] <jb_> i want to create a file in /etc/modutils, but i can't ! ?
[21:15] <jb_> #ubuntu
[21:18] <mefisto__> ganastasiou: I think the aticonfig command can set up xorg.conf to do TVout. Try "man aticonfig" or "aticonfig --help", and take a look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI
[21:21] <tzd> Hi, I'm trying to automount my ipodShuffle as vfat in my fstab config but once I'm in kubuntu I'm unable to mount it as user even though I'm using the parameter "user". Can someone please help?
[21:22] <DiViN3> hello there i need a resolutions for the error message : sudo: must be setuid root
[21:22] <DiViN3> anyone here nows how to resolve that as i cant seem to inst all anything with out that
[21:23] <jb_> hi, i'd like to run dolphin as super user
[21:24] <tzd> jb_: there should be an option on your right hand side saying "run/open/edit as root"... be careful with running as root though! You should know what you're doing before playing around as superuser
[21:24] <acemo> thought there was a button for that in dolphin?
[21:24] <Lynoure> DiViN3: you could boot in the single user mode (called Recovery mode or something) then setuid root sudo binary
[21:24] <DiViN3> Lynoure : i dont get wat u mean
[21:24] <European-African> hey guys, just played tremulous and i could not move, how do you frickin move?
[21:25] <DiViN3> Lynoure : Dont mind plz elaborate
[21:28] <|Dreams|> can any 1 tell me why my folders in my documents are greyed out?
[21:28] <GothicD3vil> is there any program that i can run mac os applications in kubuntu?
[21:30] <mefisto__> DiViN3: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=219767
[21:31] <Lynoure> DiViN3: sorry, I was away for a bit
[21:31] <mefisto__> DiViN3: there's a typo in there. It should be "chown" not chwon
[21:31] <simion314> hi, in ubuntu 8.04 the video card configuration in xorg.conf had been moved in other place? now there is just a configured device
[21:32] <tzd> GothicD3vil: as far as I know you can use VMware or Virtualbox which emulates the whole mac os x... I'm not sure if there is anything similar to wine though
[21:32] <DiViN3> adminghs@divine:~$ chown root:root /usr/bin/sudo
[21:32] <DiViN3> chown: changing ownership of `/usr/bin/sudo': Operation not permitted
[21:32] <DiViN3> i m getting this error may i know how to resolve it
[21:32] <Lynoure> DiViN3: mefisto__'s link looks good, though I don't think you need to boot with livecd, choosing the Recovery (or what was it called) option from grub menu should worrk
[21:33] <GothicD3vil> tzd, but i need to have mac installed?
[21:33] <mefisto__> DiViN3: you have to do it as root, but since you can't sudo, you need to boot in recovery mode (which gives you root access --you don't need to type sudo) read that thread and make some notes, then reboot in recovery mode
[21:34] <DiViN3> isnt there anyother way beside going into recovery mode as i m concerned abt my uptime
[21:34] <tzd> GothicD3vil: for VMware you need to have mac operative system installed yes. Pretty sure that's the case with Virtualboc as well. With wine (which is for windows) you don't need to have the whole operating system installed
[21:35] <|Dreams|> DiViNe sudo chown user:group /usr/bin
[21:35] <GothicD3vil> thanks
[21:36] <tzd> GothicD3vil: yw
[21:37] <neville_> hello, I dunno what I did but on booting, everything goes fine, except when it's starting KDM, it just shows a busy cursor (the spinning white one) on a black screen for a short time, then dumps me to a prompt. Stopping KDM then starting it again fixes it, but that is a bit of a pain in the bum, is there another way to do it?
[21:38] <arturjuma> !help
[21:38] <arturjuma> !rules
[21:38] <|Dreams|> ? display
[21:38] <|Dreams|> ?display
[21:41] <mefisto__> neville_: try looking for errors in /var/log/Xorg.0.log  or see if you have a xorg.conf backup that you can restore
[21:42] <melkor_> I'm having a little difficulty figuring out where to configure my desktop
[21:43] <melkor_> How do I turn off my touch pad.  'touch to click'
[21:43] <neville_> okay, there aren't any errors listed in the log, not even in the old ones
[21:44] <archconf> @melkor - I'm not an expert - could that be something to do with X11.conf perhaps?
[21:44] <archconf> one of the X11 config files?
[21:45] <melkor_> I think there is a graphical one.  In gnome there is a settings panel
[21:45] <mefisto__> neville_: what about xorg.conf backups in /etc/X11 ??
[21:45] <archconf> oh - that sounds more like it, yes
[21:47] <archconf> http://ubuntu.wordpress.com/2006/03/24/disable-synaptics-touchpad/
[21:47] <niche> does anyone here use virtualbox?
[21:47] <ttread> niche, I use virtualbox
[21:48] <archconf> @melkor - does that help?
[21:48] <melkor_> checkin
[21:48] <neville_> Everything looks okay, but I'll try a fresh one just quickly
[21:48] <neville_> brb
[21:49] <niche> ttread, is it exactly like running the OS (save for minor performance) or are there any driver/configuration issues?
[21:50] <archconf> has anyone here upgraded to Kubuntu 8.04 ?
[21:50] <archconf> (from 7.10)
[21:50] <mefisto__> yes
[21:50] <|Dreams|> wish i hadnt have had nothing but problems
[21:50] <archconf> I had a bit of trouble - I used the Upgrade button
[21:51] <archconf> after restarting, "kernal panic"
[21:51] <archconf> and "not syncing"
[21:51] <ttread> niche, it's very nice and is close to running the OS natively.  I've had no driver/configuration issues.
[21:51] <|Dreams|> well my kde thinks that my home folder is my desktop :|:|:|
[21:51] <archconf> and "cannot find /etc/arch.conf" and such things...
[21:51] <archconf> I just wanted to ask if anyone else has had similar problems...
[21:52] <neville_> okay it must have been something in xorg.conf, as a new one has fixed the problem
[21:52] <archconf> It looks as though I need to buy a new hard disk!
[21:52] <mefisto__> archconf: did the upgrade complete normally?
[21:52] <neville_> thanks for the guidance =]
[21:52] <niche> very good to know ttread (i'm assuming you're running xp in that virtual box though)
[21:52] <ttread> niche, yes running Win XP Pro
[21:52] <ttread> I was using VMWare and switched to Virtualbox because it's open source
[21:53] <dasos> my wireless card doesn't seem to automatically prompting me for drivers (broadcom in a laptop) on my fresh install of kubuntu 8.04-kde4, any suggestions on how to get it? nothing is showing up in hardware manager
[21:53] <niche> thank you
[21:54] <DiViN3> ok thanks guys
[21:54] <DiViN3> i hv solve the problem
[21:55] <mefisto__> DiViN3: did you chown /usr/bin directory, or just /usr/bin/sudo ?
[21:56] <DiViN3> errrr....i cant remember that mefisto__
[21:56] <archconf> well, I guess most people have not had any problems with 8.04, then...
[21:56] <DiViN3> all i can rem is that i follow from th e web
[21:56] <DiViN3> but now i can sudo already
[21:57] <ttread> archconf, I wiped the drive and installed clean, cuz I was in the mood to start fresh anyway
[21:57] <ttread> so I can't offer advice on upgrade
[21:57] <DiViN3> mefisto__ : now i get this error - [04:57] * CAN'T WRITE TO TEMP DIR
[21:58] <ttread> but can't you just start over and install fresh?  You do have a backup right?
[21:59] <mefisto__> DiViN3: another ownership problem? at least you have sudo to fix it now
[21:59] <DiViN3> ok how to fix that now
[22:00] <DiViN3> mefisto__ : wats the command to fix the problem
[22:00] <archconf> thanks ttread - that is probably the best strategy :)
[22:00] <DiViN3> mefisto__ : i cant seem to load my bots or make my stuff work
[22:04] <mefisto__> DiViN3: I think it's sudo chown root /tmp (change ownership of /tmp to user:root)
[22:05] <mefisto__> DiViN3: what user:group does it show for /tmp when you ls -l /
[22:06] <mefisto__> it should be root root
[22:07] <DiViN3> -rw-r--r--   1 root     root
[22:07] <DiViN3> this is wat it shows
[22:07] <geoffrey> desplains
[22:08] <DiViN3> mefisto__ its still the same
[22:08] <mefisto__> DiViN3: mine is   drwxrwxrwx  16 root root      if you don't have that d at the front, it means it's not a directory. can you cd to /tmp ?
[22:09] <DiViN3> mefisto__ : is it possible for u to just gv me the commands directly as i m not sure
[22:09] <mefisto__> DiViN3: I'm not too sure either. Just trying to work it out
[22:10] <DiViN3> mefisto__ : drwxr-xr-x   2 adminghs adminghs
[22:10] <DiViN3> i get this
[22:14] <|Dreams|> how can i reinstall kde please?
[22:14] <DiViN3> mefisto__ : is it possible for u to log into my shell n help me fix it plz
[22:17] <DiViN3> mefisto__ : you there
[22:18] <|Dreams|> ok my desktop is showing the entire contents of my home folder how i do fix?
[22:19] <mefisto__> DiViN3: I think it's this: sudo chmod 1777 /tmp
[22:20] <mefisto__> |Dreams|: did you have a crash during upgrade?
[22:20] <DiViN3> mefisto__ : it worked
[22:21] <|Dreams|> no i delted the desktop icon by mistake and without realising empties the trash
[22:21] <DiViN3> mefisto__ : i really appreiciate it thanks
[22:21] <mefisto__> np DiViN3
[22:21] <DiViN3> mefisto__ : dont mind can u pm me now plz
[22:22] <mefisto__> |Dreams|: you mean you deleted the Desktop folder in your home directory?
[22:22] <|Dreams|> yep
[22:23] <|Dreams|> and i am thinking i am going to spend hours reinstalling because of this
[22:23] <mefisto__> have you tried recreating it? mkdir /home/your-username/Desktop
[22:23] <|Dreams|> yeah and rebooted didnt make a difference
[22:24] <Walzmyn> !mpeg
[22:25] <mefisto__> |Dreams|: you could create a new user and log in with that. that would probably work. Then you might want to move your old home dir files to the new home dir
[22:26] <|Dreams|> and then delete the olde username and recreate it and move it back?
[22:26] <Walzmyn> !wmv
[22:27] <|Dreams|> wouldnt sudo apt-get install kde --reinstall work?
[22:27] <|Dreams|> kde-desktop even
[22:29] <mefisto__> |Dreams|: you could rename the old home dir, then delete and recreate the username, then move everything back to the NEW old home dir
[22:30] <mefisto__> |Dreams|: but first try logging in with a new user, to see if it works. May be something else
[22:30] <|Dreams|> okie
[22:30] <|Dreams|> thanks for ur time n help
[22:31] <faderhval> anyone got some experiance with themes/style for KDE/KDM under hardy??
[22:33] <DiViN3> mefisto__ : Private messages from unregistered users are currently blocked due to spam problems, but you can always message a staffer. Please register! ( http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#privmsg )
[22:35] <mefisto__> DiViN3: are you registered?
[22:35] <Walzmyn> Why do we have noatun and kaffine?
[22:35] <selocan> hi
[22:35] <Walzmyn> hello
[22:35] <mefisto__> why? why not?
[22:36] <Walzmyn> they seem to do the same thing.
[22:36] <selocan> what is going on here?
[22:36] <Walzmyn> I'd never heard of noatun until it just started opening when I tried to play an mpg
[22:36] <mefisto__> Walzmyn: they do the same, but differently
[22:36] <selocan> is there anybody from turkey
[22:36] <Walzmyn> << USA
[22:37] <Walzmyn> mefisto__, how so?
[22:38] <DiViN3> mefisto__ : i m not registerd so how do i register
[22:39] <mefisto__> Walzmyn: kaffeine is probably more configurable. double-click goes to fullscreen mode, keyboard shortcuts can be customised, plays virtually any kind of media file
[22:39] <Walzmyn> DiViN3, the opening little spill from the server when you log on tells you the website to go to
[22:39] <mefisto__> DiViN3: follow that freenode link, it explains how
[22:40] <Walzmyn> hmm, is there a way to see a preview of my movies in dolphin? al la that other OS?
[22:40] <Walzmyn> mefisto__, thanks
[22:41] <mefisto__> where does the preview play?
[22:41] <DiViN3> mefisto__ : i hv regiterd my nick sometime back so how to retrivev the password
[22:42] <Walzmyn> mefisto__, no, i mean the icon for the file. I'd like for it to show an image from the vid so I can tell them apart.
[22:44] <mefisto__> Walzmyn: I don't think dolphin can do that, but konqueror does when you hover the mouse over a file, or if you have previews on and the icons are large enough
[22:44] <monkeybritches> There's another OS?
[22:44] <Walzmyn> mefisto__, i tried konqueror, but didn't hover. i'll give it a whirl
[22:44] <Walzmyn> monkeybritches, yeah, i saw some just at work using it. looked painfull though
[22:45] <Walzmyn> just = guys
[22:45] <mefisto__> Walzmyn: no, I'm wrong. you can switch to preview mode in dolphin. Ctrl-3 is the kb shortcut
[22:45] <Walzmyn> mefisto__, i'm in that view, but all i see is the generic mpg icon, not an image from the vid
[22:45] <monkeybritches> I'll avoid it then. I'm squeamish.
[22:46] <Walzmyn> good call, monkeybritches
[22:46] <monkeybritches> :D
[22:50] <Cain_nod> what client of irc do u use? :D
[22:52] <monkeybritches> I like Xchat
[22:53] <endoftheinternet> I am in a failsafe sessino right now since Compiz make sthe X Server crash
[22:54] <endoftheinternet> how do I fix this?
[22:54] <Cain_nod> monkeybritches: basicaly why?
[22:54] <Walzmyn> Xchat here
[22:54] <Walzmyn> endoftheinternet, uninstall compiz?
[22:54] <endoftheinternet> whats the package name?
[22:55] <Walzmyn> endoftheinternet, looking
[22:55] <endoftheinternet> it says compiz isn't installed
[22:55] <Walzmyn> endoftheinternet, looks like it's just "compiz"
[22:56] <endoftheinternet> well... according to apt-get it doesn't exist
[22:56] <endoftheinternet> i need to start adept but I can't
[22:56] <Walzmyn> ok, if you pop your CD back in, there's an option as it boots up to fix your X config, you might try that
[22:56] <endoftheinternet> can't remember which cd was it
[22:57] <endoftheinternet> it was*
[22:57] <Walzmyn> warning- it will overwrite a bunch of settings
[22:57] <endoftheinternet> i might be back hold on
[22:57] <mefisto__> you can get that xfix in recovery mode in hardy
[22:58] <endoftheinternet> maybe oit is trying to find compiz but ti can't so it's failing
[22:58] <Walzmyn> oh you can? that's nice.
[22:59] <BluesKaj> sudo apt-get install compiz
[23:00] <endoftheinternet> maybe kdm isn't running I did sudo killall kdm...
[23:00] <endoftheinternet> i think
[23:00] <Cain_nod> bye i love u all
[23:13] <narothepharoh> how do i open a .package file in the new 8.04?
[23:13] <faderhval> im going nuts here anyone got time to help med with compiz ?
[23:13] <faderhval> me*
[23:14] <mefisto__> narothepharoh: a .deb file?
[23:14] <narothepharoh> mefisto: it just says .package
[23:15] <mefisto__> where did you find it?
[23:15] <curtis> what is a good program to manage an ipod?
[23:15] <coreymon77> curtis: itunes :P
[23:15] <coreymon77> !ipod
[23:16] <mefisto__> curtis: amarok
[23:16] <curtis> mefisto, will that hold and play all the music?
[23:16] <coreymon77> curtis: look at ubotu
[23:16] <mefisto__> curtis: yes, it's a great music player/library thingie
[23:16] <nohelphere> i'm not sur eif KDM is running how do you START compiz?
[23:17] <_Angelus_> guys
[23:17] <_Angelus_> can kubuntu read from Mac Os X partitions?
[23:18] <coreymon77> i believe so
[23:18] <stdin> !hfs | _Angelus_
[23:18] <mefisto__> compiz --replace
[23:19] <curtis> i am banned from the debian chat
[23:19] <curtis> how can i get back in?
[23:20] <curtis> ?
[23:20] <endoftheinternet> mayeb now I hsould uninstall compiz
[23:20] <stdin> curtis: you'd have to contact one of their ops and ask
[23:21] <endoftheinternet> is there a way I can repair X from a terminal?
[23:21] <narothepharoh> mefisto_: it just says .package
[23:21] <curtis> stdin, can i just change me ip adress?
[23:22] <mefisto__> narothepharoh: what is it? what are you trying to install. normally you install .deb packages
[23:22] <stdin> curtis: evading bans is against freenode policy and could earn you a k-line
[23:22] <PhilRod> curtis: using technical means of getting round bans is not a good way to make friends
[23:23] <narothepharoh> mefisto_: it is vdrift
[23:23] <curtis> i would just like to get back in that chat my best friend is in it.
[23:23] <endoftheinternet> typing compiz make sit compile then restart X
[23:24] <mightyman> greetings... can someone help me "aliening" an rpm to deb on a 32bit system? :$ please :)
[23:24] <endoftheinternet> compile something then restart X
[23:24] <endoftheinternet> what do I type when I attempt to reapir X?
[23:24] <BluesKaj> ok curtis question , you were banned for a reason. care to share it with us ?
[23:24] <stdin> curtis: contact one of their ops then, best place to ask about this is in #freenode
[23:25] <BluesKaj> mightyman, what app ?
[23:25] <mightyman> it's a driver... and I'm on a amd64
[23:25] <mefisto__> endoftheinternet: if you have hardy, reboot in recovery mode, at the end of boot process you'll see a menu, one item is xfix (attempt to fix X server).
[23:25] <mightyman> and can't do that...
[23:26] <mightyman> BluesKaj, would you mind helping me? please please please :)
[23:26] <BluesKaj> most drivers are linuxwide
[23:26] <BluesKaj> what is the driver
[23:26] <mightyman> yeap... except this... :D can't turn the rpm to deb
[23:26] <endoftheinternet> recovery mode on the CD or the recovery kernel?
[23:27] <mightyman> epson multifunctional driver...
[23:27] <mefisto__> recovery kernel
[23:27] <endoftheinternet> by the way I think my Vid card is failing
[23:27] <endoftheinternet> got flashing color changing lines during boot then screen went black then everything is fine
[23:28] <BluesKaj> mightyman, are there any drivers that fir your needs that end in .run ?
[23:28] <mefisto__> endoftheinternet: does it happen with livecd?
[23:28] <endoftheinternet> i might be back
[23:28] <mightyman> nope..
[23:28] <narothepharoh> mefisto_: it is vdrift i downloaded it from the vdrift site
[23:28] <mightyman> the problem is that the rpm is created for 32bit systems... I've 64
[23:29] <mightyman> and I can't convert it as well to work
[23:29] <BluesKaj> I've never had luck with RPM>deb
[23:29] <mightyman> I've created a lot of times....
[23:29] <mightyman> there was no problem...
[23:30] <mightyman> except this