[13:07] <BluesKaj>  ActionParsnip lol is punctuation for some ppl , they can't end a sentence without it :)
[13:07] <mic1980> just so many options with linux, any number of choices might be bad choices
[13:07] <ActionParsnip> blueskaj: sadly true
[13:08] <ActionParsnip> mic1980: the installer will set things up for you. just take the defaults. they are there to accommodate those with limited techy abilities
[13:09] <ActionParsnip> mic1980: is the system a dual boot?
[13:09] <mic1980> yes but i dont wish to take defaults, i wish to learn and i wish to understand. the point of using linux is to learn the very basics first.
[13:10] <cfhowlett> mic1980, well hell then, do it right.  search "linux from scratch" OR ...
[13:10] <cfhowlett> !mini|mic1980,
[13:11] <mic1980> as i mentioned earlier, i have two drives one with xp and the other has been low leveled
[13:11] <ActionParsnip> mic1980: then delete the current ubuntu partitions and then use the free space. be sure you have backed up the data you need
[13:11] <curatrix> mic1980: Here is a good starter ( stick it on your desktop for a few weeks) http://lotphelp.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/filesystemhierarchyhb8.jpg
[13:11] <ActionParsnip> mic1980: WinXP has less than 300 days support left
[13:12] <nooros> hello. I have ubuntu 13.04. Streaming does not work on uk channel 4 website '4od' giving a digita rights error in firefox and no content in chrome. I have googled and some people say to install the 'hal' package, which i have done and rebooted, but it does change anythiing. (I am in the UK)
[13:12] <mic1980> ive been reading extensively folks but its convaluted and some is very helpful other parts is retraining my brain to understand both acronyms and other terms
[13:13] <ActionParsnip> mic1980: not really, how much RAM does the system have?
[13:13] <mic1980> im not a techie but i can move around windows pretty good, and have an average to above average understanding
[13:13] <mic1980> i think 2 gb
[13:14] <letkume> How do i make ubuntu boot into kde ? i have kdm in the settings "# cat /etc/X11/default-display-manager" --> "/usr/bin/kdm"
[13:14] <ActionParsnip> mic1980: the you want 2 partitions, 2.2Gb for swap and the rest Ext4 as /
[13:14] <ActionParsnip> mic1980: how is that convoluted?
[13:15] <mic1980> thats what i figured however, ive been unable to find a screen allowing to set swap file
[13:15] <darkapp> hey i was wondering if anyone knows any good games in the repository?
[13:16] <mic1980> and personal instruction is not convoluted, the reading material is extensive and as many have said in the forums, its a whole new animal
[13:16] <BluesKaj> !steam | darkapp
[13:16] <ActionParsnip> mic1980: its in the "something else" option at install time
[13:16] <nooros> darkapp: What kind of game?
[13:16] <darkapp> idk, first person shooters are good
[13:16] <ActionParsnip> darkapp: urban terror is great. Add the playdeb repo
[13:17] <darkapp> BluesKaj: is that finished yet?
[13:17] <mic1980> im at that screen now, but shows nothing for swap file, or ive not been able to locate it
[13:17] <darkapp> so apt-get install paydeb?
[13:17] <nooros> darkapp: most windows FPS shooters work using wine, also most of the older ID/Unreal ones have linux ports: you'd install those directly though, not from the repo
[13:17] <Znoosey> apt-get install supertux
[13:17] <nooros> darkapp: There is a linux client for steam as well, and TF2 is ported natively
[13:17] <Znoosey> !
[13:17] <BluesKaj> darkapp, dunno , but it's worth checking out , some gamers are very happy about it.
[13:17] <mic1980> brb
[13:19] <ActionParsnip> darkapp: try researching rather than trying to guess
[13:19] <mic1980> k im back
[13:19] <darkapp> ya, just wanted to hear some suggestions
[13:20] <nooros> Is anyone here able to view 4OD content in the UK on Ubuntu? I *know* it works on gnu-linux as my chromebook does it, but I can't figure out ubuntu.
[13:20] <mic1980> so where in the choice of other do i find where to set swap file
[13:20] <ActionParsnip> darkapp: wget http://archive.getdeb.net/install_deb/playdeb_0.3-1~getdeb1_all.deb; sudo dpkg -i ./playdeb_0.3-1~getdeb1_all.deb
[13:21] <ActionParsnip> darkapp: sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get install urbanteror
[13:21] <darkapp> terror?
[13:21] <ActionParsnip> darkapp: the links on the playdeb site will also work
[13:21] <darkapp> ok sounds good
[13:22] <ActionParsnip> darkapp: yes, you get the idea
[13:22] <darkapp> i said save file with the link
[13:22] <ActionParsnip> darkapp: guess where I get all this stuff from.....
[13:22] <mic1980> incidentially, when i choose the default to allow dual boot alongside of xp, then next window showsthe ntfs drive to resize but does not shows option to load on low level drive
[13:22] <darkapp> not sure if it neds installation
[13:22] <ActionParsnip> darkapp: the deb adds the ppa
[13:22] <darkapp> not working :(
[13:23] <darkapp> whats the ppa command maybe?
[13:23] <nooros> mic1980: what does "load on low level drive" mean. WHy would you do that anyway? Are you talking about the bootloader?
[13:23] <curatrix> darkapp: It is just as easy to download the lot from the urbanterror.info site .....It will run from the users home directory
[13:24] <nooros> mic1980: All you need to do is resize your XP partition, create an ubuntu partion, and optionally a swap partition, then follow the installer 'wizard'
[13:24] <mic1980> let me describe what my end goal is.
[13:24] <armin> any hint how to fix "debconf: falling back to frontend: Noninteractive"?
[13:24] <nooros> mic1980: that would be a good idea!
[13:25] <ActionParsnip> curatrix: the ppa allows easier upgrading as the new version will be pulled in when the ppa is updated :-)
[13:25] <simon__> Hello everyone
[13:25] <mic1980> i want to set a completely separate physical hard drive strickly for xp, the second physical hard drive i want ubuntu on it, but i want to have dual boot
[13:25] <Sach> Trying t configure controls in Transcribe to play and stop.  How do I do this?
[13:26] <ActionParsnip> mic1980: once you install to the other drive the dual boot will be handled for you
[13:26] <mic1980> understood
[13:27] <mic1980> what if i remove physically drive one, and just simply install ubuntu on drive two then after completion physically hook up both drives, will dual boot still work
[13:28] <curatrix> no
[13:28] <stef1a> Using 13.04 and an AMD / ATI HD Radeon gfx card with fglrx and Unity installed. Everything works fine, but with an external monitor, I cannot set my virtual monitor's size to encapsulate both screens -- it says the maximum screen size is set lower than the size I want to set. How do I fix this?
[13:29] <mic1980> curatrix was no meant for me
[13:29] <armin> did anyone manage to enable the artwiz fonts on ubuntu 13.04?
[13:29] <curatrix> mic1980: It will write the MBR on the connected drive (ok if you want to select the OS from the BIOS)
[13:29] <eowyn113> hi. I'm running xubuntu 12.04 LTS and my mouse doesn't work, the light is off
[13:29] <nooros> mic1980: I could get ubuntu and win7 or winNT (haha)  working in that situation but I do not how XP does it
[13:29] <eowyn113> mouse connected with usb, desktop
[13:29] <cfhowlett> eowyn113, mouses (mice) wear out.  frequently.  also, if battery operated ...
[13:29] <eowyn113> works very well with windows (dual boot)
[13:30] <cfhowlett> eowyn113, bluetooth or usb?
[13:30] <eowyn113> usb and without batteries
[13:30] <mic1980> well i suppose i could try it, but ideally what i wanted to do was to lay ubuntu on the second drive with xp on the first drive
[13:30] <curatrix> mic1980: There should be a way to select the physical drive ......If the win drive is sd0 then the empty drive would be sd1
[13:31] <ChaosTheory> Where are the logs of a kernel panic?
[13:31] <nooros> mic that is easy assumign each OS has a separate physical drive
[13:31] <nooros> mic1980: Howeever you have stated you want ubuntu and win XP both on the 2nd drive
[13:31] <curatrix> ChaosTheory: /var/log/syslog
[13:32] <mic1980> yes when i get to the install screen i choose other type of partition and next screen shows sda and sda1 with ntfs and second drive shows as sdb
[13:32] <mic1980> but im stuck at that point as i double click sdb and it gives me options but no option for swap file
[13:32] <nooros> mic1980: if you are happy with winxp only on drive 1, ubuntu only on drive 2, and dual boot, then just  install win, then ubuntu, and it will work. If you want winXP on both drives, i dont know XP, i could do it with win7 though
[13:33] <mic1980> no no, i want xp on physical drive 1 and ubuntu on physical drive 2 with dual boot
[13:33] <ChaosTheory> curatrix, cheers
[13:33] <nooros> mic1980: Well that is easy, install winXP on drive 1, install Ubuntu on drive 2, and ubuntu wil set up dual boot
[13:34] <curatrix> mic1980: You should be able to partition the second drive AKA sdb without touching the xp drive
[13:34] <nooros> mic1980: Just make sure you install windows FIRST
[13:34] <mic1980> cool thats what i was looking for hehehe. so bascially ill have to disconnect drive one and install ubuntu on drive two then rehook both drives at end
[13:34] <nooros> mic1980: NO
[13:34] <mic1980> hehehe
[13:34] <curatrix> mic1980: NO
[13:34] <mic1980> sorry am novice
[13:35] <nooros> mic1980: Connect both drives. Istall XP on one drive. Reboot. Instlal ubuntu on 2nd drive. It's done
[13:35] <mic1980> k ive tried that, here is my plight.
[13:35] <curatrix> mic1980: Both drives will have to be connected during the ubuntu install or it will install another MBR on the second drive
[13:35] <mic1980> thats what i thought
[13:35] <mic1980> in theory
[13:36] <djono> hello is there a program that can flash me external dvd drive?
[13:36] <mic1980> look here is what happens on the system
[13:36] <mic1980> ill describe in detail
[13:36] <mic1980> both drives are physciallys setup
[13:36] <OerHeks> mic1980, are these Sata drives ?
[13:36] <mic1980> i use the ubuntu cd for 12.04
[13:37] <mic1980> both are sata identical drives 80 gb
[13:37] <nooros> is windows already installed?
[13:37] <mic1980> xp is installed already on drive one only
[13:37] <OerHeks> xp does not run in AHCI mode, and needs IDE mode to work
[13:37] <mic1980> drive two has been low level formatted nothing more
[13:38] <mic1980> both are connected to the system
[13:38] <parallels> hello all
[13:38] <cfhowlett> parallels, greetings
[13:38] <mic1980> now when the install screen appears the first default is install ubuntu alongside of xp
[13:38] <nooros> how did you install XP on sata in the first place?
[13:39] <djono> hello is there a program that can flash me external dvd drive?
[13:39] <mic1980> if i choose yes, then next screen asks to resize the partition but only shows the active partition for xp therefore only shows 80 and of course default is 40 gb for xp and 40 gb for ubuntu
[13:40] <eowyn113> someone for my mouse problem ? syslog told me  "generic-usb 0003:192F:0916.0001: input,hidraw0: USB HID v1.11 Mouse [USB Optical Mouse] on usb-0000:00:02.0-4/input0"
[13:40] <curatrix> mic1980: Use the do something else option
[13:40] <mic1980> my problem with default is does not see the unpartitioned 2nd physical drive to format and lay ubuntu on
[13:40] <mic1980> did that too
[13:40] <mic1980> hehehe
[13:40] <mic1980> when i choose the other option, i then get screen showing drives, no problem
[13:41] <curatrix> mic1980: Does the BIOS detect the drive?
[13:41] <curatrix> mic1980: eg  Does it show up during POST
[13:41] <curatrix> ?
[13:41] <BluesKaj> sata is just the type of connection , one can still format the drive to ntfs
[13:41] <BluesKaj> nooros,^
[13:41] <mic1980> shows sda and sda1 ntfs which of course has xp on it and also shows second physical drive as full 80 gb not formatted
[13:42] <mic1980> so we are good to go there, no problem
[13:42] <nooros> BluesKaj: If this was about XP on sata, have you tried to install it? ;-)
[13:42] <mic1980> but when i choose the unformatted second physical drive and double click new options are available and i get stuck
[13:42] <curatrix> mic1980: In the 'do something else' option, there should be a way to switch the active drive from sda1 to sdb
[13:42] <BluesKaj> nooros, have you ?
[13:43] <OerHeks> BluesKaj, but the Sata drive in IDE mode for  XP,could bring up these problems installing ubuntu
[13:43] <nooros> BluesKaj: Yes, it needs you to load a sata driver during install, unless they fixed that in a service pack
[13:43] <mic1980> if you double click sdb it shows new screen to format etc, but i am stuck there
[13:43] <djono> hello is there a program that can flash me external dvd drive?
[13:43] <mic1980> ill tell you why im stuck
[13:43] <nooros> mic1980: why stuck? do not know which format to pick?
[13:44] <mic1980> going to tell you now
[13:44] <embassyguy> hey wats app
[13:44] <embassyguy> :D
[13:44] <cfhowlett> embassyguy, greetings
[13:44] <mic1980> the options ive figured out but there has to be a swap file in place and i dont see option for swap file anywhere, they recommend using size of ram to set swapfile, i can format, i can choose file system etc, but no swap file
[13:45] <embassyguy> greetings cfhowleft
[13:46] <curatrix> mic1980: OKay, you need to create a swap partition (as a rule I generally make the swap partition to be 2Gb larger than the amount of RAM you have
[13:46] <curatrix> mic1980: For example if you have 8Gb of RAM, then make the swap partition to be 10Gb
[13:46] <nooros> mic1980 curatrix Well he doesn't *need* a swap partition, it can swap to a file, but yea it helps
[13:46] <mic1980> this i know thankyou, but i dont know where to set swap file there is no option anywhere that i can find in the install
[13:47] <mic1980> yes ive read all about the size etc. but i cannot find option for swap file
[13:48] <nooros> mic1980: I dont remember what they call it in the current installer, but it is there. It's probably "other"? SOmeone here will know. But you do not need a swap partition
[13:48] <mic1980> i understand what your telling me. but i have 2 gb ram that i can use as a pagefile so to speak and it will help with speed etc
[13:48] <curatrix> mic1980: Make the primary partition for Ubuntu to be 70Gb and set the filesystem to be ext4 .....then create another partition and set the filesystem type to swap
[13:48] <stef1a> Using 13.04 and an AMD / ATI HD Radeon gfx card with fglrx and Unity installed. Everything works fine, but with an external monitor, I cannot set my virtual monitor's size to encapsulate both screens -- it says the maximum screen size is set lower than the size I want to set. How do I fix this?
[13:49] <mic1980> k im going to try that now, ill be back in a second
[13:49] <curatrix> mic1980: Break a leg ;)
[13:50] <nooros> mic1980: forget what you know abotu windows and pagefiles. linux works differently. but sure, create a swap partition if you want to, it will help
[13:50] <jpgrms> anyone wants help?
[13:51] <nooros> jpgrms: I have ubuntu 13.04. Streaming does not work on UK channel 4 website '4od' giving a "Digital Rights Error" in Firefox and no content in Chrome. I have googled and some people say to install the 'hal' package, which I have done and rebooted, but it does change anythiing. (I am in the UK).
[13:51] <nooros> If anyone else can solve that too, please! :-)
[13:51] <reisio> nooros: not likely anything to do with hal, at any rate
[13:52] <jpgrms> @nooros sorry not with that particular prob..
[13:52] <ikonia> nooros: http://askubuntu.com/questions/199113/4od-uk-cant-stream
[13:52] <ikonia> it's a flash problem - versions
[13:52] <nooros> reisio: that's what i thought but apparently it's used by their terribad DRM system
[13:52] <reisio> doubt it
[13:52] <nooros> ikonia: I have the latest one
[13:53] <ikonia> nooros: doesn't mean it's supported/works as flash for linux is dead
[13:53] <reisio> ikonia: is it now
[13:53] <anom> Hi, is there a PPA for PHP 5.5 yet?
[13:53] <BluesKaj> nooros, well , XP is bit long in the tooth anyway , W7 is probly the best MSOS around
[13:53] <nooros> ikonia: Well it works with chromeos, and it used to work until 13.04, how you recommend it fix it?
[13:53] <ikonia> nooros: from what I'm reading - you don't,
[13:54] <ikonia> nooros: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2012/02/adobe-adandons-flash-on-linux
[13:54] <curatrix> nooros: Is adobe-flashplugin   installed?
[13:54] <djono> hello is there a program that can flash me external dvd drive?
[13:54] <reisio> djono: flash?
[13:54] <reisio> djono: do pick a channel
[13:54] <nooros> curatrix: Yes, and i can view most other flash content
[13:54] <mic1980> k it worked so far, but question do i need to format the swap file
[13:54] <djono> flash my dvd drive firmware
[13:55] <cfhowlett> mic1980, no you need not format the swap file
[13:55] <reisio> djono: what makes you think you need to do soemthing like that
[13:55] <ikonia> djono: your vendor will need to provide a linux flash program, or you'll need to use boot media
[13:55] <reisio> mic1980: swap is its own "format"
[13:55] <mic1980> thanks brb
[13:56] <nooros> reisio: ikonia This used to work until 13.04 http://m.jguk.org/2012/10/resolved-channel4-4od-working-with.html
[13:56] <ikonia> nooros: re-read what I said
[13:56] <ikonia> nooros: saying "it used to work" backs up what I've just told you
[13:56] <staticLNX> ugh X.X
[13:56] <nooros> ikonia: so why does it work with chromeos?
[13:56] <reisio> their site says it should work on Linux, so maybe they don't know they've broken it yet
[13:56] <ikonia> nooros: READ the links I've given you, actually read them
[13:56] <reisio> nooros: Chrome OS has a different Flash version than Firefox
[13:57] <reisio> nooros: you could try Google Chrome (not Chromium) for Linux
[13:57] <nooros> reisio: I have tried chrome on ubuntu
[13:57] <ikonia> nooros: read the links
[13:57] <reisio> nooros: apparently they have a youtube channel
[13:57] <nooros> ikonia: So the link says it's not supported. Fine. however some people hav it workign and i need to find out why so i can get mine working
[13:58] <ikonia> nooros: again READ the whole link
[13:58] <ikonia> not just the first line
[13:59] <nooros> ikonia: I dont know what you are trying to achieve. It still works for some folk, and I would to find out why, rather than write it off
[14:00] <curatrix> nooros: I wonder if it is a security certificate that is stopping the video. I can check from this end as I am using LTS
[14:01] <curatrix> *can't
[14:01] <nooros> curatrix: interesting, thanks, i will look into that
[14:02] <nooros> reisio: You are right, there is a youtube channel, but they don't have all the content.
[14:04] <Giwrgaras> adobe doenst support ubuntu anymore?
[14:04] <Giwrgaras> http://get.adobe.com/flashplayer/?no_redirect
[14:07] <mic1980> folks i want to say a sincere thank you, it seems to be working now install is proceeding. i really appreciate it. cant stick around for reply but thanks
[14:07] <nooros> reisio: This is how terrible Adobe's code really is: Post 29 by adobe staff :-)  http://forums.adobe.com/message/4797142#4797142
[14:08] <ikonia> nooros: it's not "bad" - they don't support linux so new versions of sites that require the new version of flash won't work, it's that simple
[14:08] <ikonia> so I'm not sure why you are saying "bad code bad code", it's just a version miss-match
[14:09] <nooros> ikonia: They are using the HAL package for drm
[14:09] <decci> Any alternative to Microsoft Exchange? I tried installing Open-xchange but I failed to implement
[14:09] <Giwrgaras> can i see youtube with html instead of flash for my chromium?
[14:09] <reisio> nooros: I might believe it if installing hal actually helped you
[14:09] <decci> I looked at Zimbra but the open source edition has limited feature
[14:09] <reisio> Giwrgaras: some youtube videos, yes
[14:10] <nooros> reisio: It has helped some, see ubuntu forums. Many ppl saying "sudo apt-get install hal" fixed 4od and flash. Can find you many links if you want :P
[14:10] <reisio> nooros: sure, but in _the past_ hal was something that distros still used
[14:11] <reisio> nooros: so again, I might believe it if installing hal actually helped you _now_
[14:11] <nooros> reisio: Yes i know, this is why it's amazing that they are even still using it :) Some folk here saying it worked from end of 2012 http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2074459
[14:12] <nooros> reisio: I agree, it's utterly bizzare
[14:12] <Giwrgaras> where are the program files in ubuntu?
[14:12] <Giwrgaras> im trying to access my python bin but i cannot find where are th programfiles in ubuntu or how they are called
[14:14] <nooros> Giwrgaras: just type 'python' .. but you can use 'which python' to locate it
[14:14] <reisio> nooros: well we already knew Adobe was quite bad at everything :p
[14:14] <reisio> it'd be interesting if new versions of Flash coming with Chrome still made use of hal in any way
[14:14] <nooros> Giwrgaras: BTW you have very little legit reason to mess with the contents of the *system* python runtime. Install a python venv if you want a separate envrionment
[14:15] <Giwrgaras> istore modules inside thats why i want to find the root file
[14:15] <nooros> Giwrgaras: Why?
[14:16] <Giwrgaras> to have easy access to them and to be in the module library the modules that i write
[14:16] <nooros> Giwrgaras: I recommend you go to ##python and ask them how to set up your python env in a standard manner
[14:16] <Giwrgaras> but generally where are the program files in here how are they called
[14:16] <Giwrgaras> ok
[14:17] <h221> my computer doesn't boot, doesn't even beep.. And I have an ubuntu liveCD.. is there any thing I can do with the liveCD to make it boot?
[14:17] <nooros> Giwrgaras: Giwrgaras load python, "import sys" then print sys.path
[14:18] <reisio> h221: if it doesn't turn on at all? No
[14:18] <curatrix> h221: Is there a power switch on the back?
[14:18] <nooros> Giwrgaras: Ubuntu OS *requires* python to run so do NOT mess with anythng in there, setup your own environment
[14:18] <h221> The cpu turns on...
[14:19] <h221> I'm on an irc.. I'm not that dumb.. srsly?
[14:19] <curatrix> h221: Can you access the BIOs
[14:19] <curatrix> ?
[14:19] <h221> It doesn't recognize the display..
[14:19] <nooros> h221: How do we know how many computers you have?
[14:19] <h221> nor the USB keyboard.
[14:22] <anom> Upgrading Ubuntu. :O
[14:23] <anom> Shitting bricks. Did not back up anything.
[14:24] <contrapunctus-i> anom - Nothing goes wrong.
[14:24] <contrapunctus-i> anon - usually :p
[14:30] <mile> hello
[14:30] <mile> i come from China
[14:31] <kai_> Garry's Mod on LINux, I love steam. THey just give you the linux versions for free if you have the windows ones :)
[14:31] <maskupe> hi, my drive C cannot be mounted, i dont know why.. but i need to open my drive c because I have to reformat my compter... and i need to back up my files.... what should i do?
[14:31] <kai_> maskupe: can you boot up into WINdows?
[14:31] <maskupe> i am in usb mode ubuntu...
[14:31] <maskupe> kai ..
[14:31] <kai_> maskupe: yes?
[14:32] <nooros> maskupe: does it see the drive?
[14:32] <maskupe> do you know how to fix my problem?
[14:32] <maskupe> my HD has two partitions C and D
[14:32] <kai_> maskupe: can you see it in Disk Mangement?
[14:32] <maskupe> but i cannot open C
[14:32] <kai_> *Disk Utility
[14:32] <nooros> maskupe: Does it see the partition?
[14:33] <maskupe> i on ubuntu how do i open the disk utility? im new to ubuntu
[14:33] <nooros> maskupe: At the top left, the dash. Open it, type 'disks'
[14:33] <nooros> maskupe: You should see an icon showing a drive and a wrench. that is what you need
[14:33] <kai_> Just search disks in the ubuntu menu
[14:33] <BlackScholes> .
[14:33] <maskupe> doing....
[14:33] <kai_> YOu can get to it be hitting the Windows key and typing in DISK Just like you would on Windows 7
[14:34] <nooros> maskupe: Doing that, you can mount the partition, and it will appear in Files
[14:34] <maskupe> i can see it/..
[14:34] <kai_> ^^^
[14:34] <kai_> Right click it and mount i belive
[14:34] <nooros> maskupe: So now use that to "mount" it
[14:34] <MrChip> hi
[14:34] <MrChip> I am new to linux
[14:35] <reisio> MrChip: hi
[14:35] <reisio> I am old to Linux
[14:35] <kai_> MrChip: Noones new to linux, You've used it for years. You just didn't know it.   LOLZ, But anyway welcome. I've never heard of Hauwai modems if you could explain what you need help with
[14:36] <sometwo> I am having some issues with my NFS mounts. I have a user mount in fstab and I mount it as my user. I am unable to read anything or even list the files on the share. The folder even has some weird file permissions d??????? ??? ??? in ls -la. If I sudo ls -la everything is looking perfectly and I can read the files on the share. What is up here?
[14:36] <nooros> kai_: microsoft.com is hosted on citrix :-)
[14:37] <kai_> nooros: Microsoft Skype runs on Linux
[14:37] <nooros> kai_: It's written in delphi you know!
[14:37] <kai_> nooros: I used to run Linux on my Playstation 3, Then I got a firmware patch to the knee LOLZ
[14:38] <kai_> Anyone got Halo Reach?, On the Xbawwx Free Sixty? Looking for someone to do co-op with.
[14:38] <kai_> lolz
[14:39] <MrChip> Its a USb modem
[14:39] <maskupe> how do i pastebin?
[14:39] <kai_> maskupe: You give linus cookies, Then strip naked and run to your local supermarket and start scream I'AM JESUS.
[14:39] <kai_> that's how you use pastebin
[14:39] <kai_> jk :)
[14:40] <nooros> maskupe: http://www.paste.ubuntu.com
[14:40] <reisio> MrChip: what does 'lsusb' say about it?
[14:40] <nooros> maskupe: You can also type 'pastebinit <filename>' from the terminal
[14:40] <maskupe> thanks nooros
[14:40] <raven_> how to control cpu frequency?
[14:40] <nooros> maskupe: That terminal command might not be installed on your livecd
[14:40] <MrChip> Bus 001 Device 008: ID 12d1:140b Huawei Technologies Co., Ltd. EC1260 Wireless Data Modem HSD USB Card
[14:41] <w30> sometwo, you get those ???? permissions when you kave someone besides the user that you are using ls. I f you are logged in as the one that mounted the files then the permissions show up right
[14:41] <sometwo> w30, no
[14:41] <sometwo> it is the other way around
[14:42] <reisio> MrChip: http://www.google.com/search?q="12d1%3A140b" site%3Aubuntuforums.org
[14:42] <sometwo> w30, the user that mounts them (my user) cannot see the file permissions, root can however.
[14:42] <raven_> how to control cpu frequency?
[14:42] <lida_ok> hello. can anybody here me?
[14:43] <sometwo> lida_ok, no
[14:43] <curatrix> raven_: use cpufreqd and get its associated packages (gui etc)
[14:43] <raven_> curatrix, tnx
[14:43] <curatrix> raven_: It is in the download manager/synaptic
[14:43] <kvant> Hello
[14:43] <sometwo> w30, I read something about fuse that only the user that mounts can see the file permissions.
[14:44] <maskupe> nooros, pm
[14:44] <nooros> maskupe: I have pm turned off, can you ask in channel?
[14:44] <maskupe> ok
[14:45] <maskupe> i got this
[14:45] <maskupe> http://pastebin.com/55bXdnL2
[14:45] <maskupe> if you dont mind...
[14:45] <Mekzholan> Hello everyone - I'm getting fed up with the internal WLAN with Broadcom BCM4313 => now I want to use an external USB WLAN dongle.
[14:45] <Mekzholan> So that I don't et the same problems again: what hardware here is known to work very well? What should I buy?
[14:45] <sometwo> w30, I found the problem now. my kerberos ticket had expired
[14:45] <ikonia> Mekzholan: usb dongles as a rule do not have great support, check the hardware compatability lists for linux
[14:46] <nooros> maskupe: it is saying it cant mount the drive as the drive is broken. I dnt know how to fix windows drives. Some other guys here might know
[14:46] <ikonia> Mekzholan: if possible find one without the need for external kernel modules
[14:46] <sometwo> and for some reason root had a ticket ...???
[14:46] <w30> sometwo, ahhh.....
[14:46] <maskupe> okay
[14:46] <maskupe> thank you
[14:46] <maskupe> can you recommend someone?
[14:47] <MrChip> i tried installing usb-modeswitch package from the extracted file, but nothing happened
[14:47] <MrChip> it didnt get installed
[14:48] <Mekzholan> ikonia: you mean something like http://wireless.kernel.org/en/users/Devices/USB ? But how do I figure out if it's working well?
[14:48] <daftykins> Mekzholan: why not consider changing the internal card, also?
[14:48] <Mekzholan> The BCM4313 is also supported - but wrecks the lokal WLAN...
[14:48] <ikonia> Mekzholan: well, if it's listed on that list, it means supported....meaning it works
[14:49] <raven_> curatrix, i have xubuntu 13.04 - cpufreqd not able to install and xfce plugin runs but has no effect
[14:49] <curatrix> raven_: Is cpufreqd in the repository?
[14:49] <Mekzholan> daftykins: hm, I don't know how easily I can change the internal card. It's a Dell Vostro
[14:49] <raven_> yes but errors while instlling
[14:50] <lida_ok> .
[14:50] <curatrix> raven please  grep error /var/log/syslog        and pastebin the response
[14:51] <daftykins> Mekzholan: i thought Vostros were the desktop units. should be pretty easy
[14:51] <reconmaster> anyone had trouble running 13.04 in vmware with the shared folders?
[14:51] <lida_ok> Can someone help me to open Teamviewer on Ubuntu 12 https://gist.github.com/anonymous/5845291. Thank you.
[14:51] <Mekzholan> daftykins: no, Vostros are laptops
[14:51] <ikonia> reconmaster: why don't you just explain YOUR problem rather than worrying about what others have / have not seen
[14:51] <reconmaster> can't get vmware shared folder module to compile in the kernel with 13.04r
[14:51] <reconmaster> 13.04*
[14:52] <ikonia> reconmaster: have you cheked it's compatability on the vmware site/requirments/support list
[14:52] <daftykins> Mekzholan: they're both it seems. no underside panels to uncover it?
[14:52] <raven_> curatrix, pastebin.com/bcKeFvZM
[14:52] <zero2XIII> lida_ok: 12 what?
[14:52] <reconmaster> ikonia: no, im not bothered one way or the other, i just went back to LTS i was just curious if anyone else noticed the bug
[14:52] <tga_> greetings
[14:53] <ikonia> reconmaster if you've not checked if it's meant to work, you can't call it a bug. Do some ressearch, or if you're not bothered, don't
[14:53] <tga_> I just got my LUKS+LVM2 system unbootable, probably by running out of space on /boot
[14:53] <lida_ok> zero2XIII ı explain my problem on the link.
[14:53] <tga_> I could use some hints on how to rebuild everything, just doing an update-initramfs in chroot didn't help
[14:54] <Mekzholan> daftykins: well I'm just trying to look at the repair manual of how to get close to the card. I don't even know how the form factor is called that I have to search for...
[14:54] <MrChip> join #huawei-g300
[14:54] <cfhowlett> MrChip, it's /join
[14:55] <daftykins> Mekzholan: mini PCI/PCI-E typically, something like an intel 6300 would be top end 802.11n with 3 antennas
[14:55] <zero2XIII> lida_ok: you propably is not in the correct folder when you try and run the file. or is it installed in ROOT/APPS/TEAMVIEWER....
[14:55] <tga_> atm as far as I can tell my root fs isn't getting mounted
[14:55] <umit> my web videos play fast
[14:55] <umit> what can i do?
[14:55] <ikonia> tga_: rebuild everything ???? why
[14:55] <rypervenche> tga_: Any errors when you start your system? Where does it stop?
[14:55] <umit> i use xubuntu studio 13 with firefox
[14:55] <Gilligan94> sorry this is unrelated but does anyone know how to join the chat for a twitch.tv chat via smuxi?
[14:56] <tga_> rypervenche: atm it fails to find the root device, /dev/mapper/ubuntu-root
[14:56] <zero2XIII> lida_ok: also teamviewer is in the repro's, why are you manually installing?
[14:56] <curatrix> raven_: It may have been a freak event or a reaction with another process.......... try sudo apt-get purge cpufreqd
[14:56] <tga_> rypervenche: in busybox I unlocked the device but it's still lvm and I can't mount it
[14:56] <zhonghai> @fsrv2
[14:56] <zhonghai> @fsrv2
[14:56] <zhonghai> @fsrv1
[14:56] <zhonghai> @five-by-5
[14:56] <tga_> rypervenche: I'm not getting prompted for a LUKS password either, so something is going wrong there
[14:56] <Giwrgaras> how do i see folder paths in ubuntu?
[14:56] <zhonghai> @find
[14:57] <zhonghai> @find j
[14:57] <rypervenche> tga_: Do you have LVM on LUKS or LUKS on LVM?
[14:57] <tga_> rypervenche: lvm on luks
[14:57] <tga_> default encrypted setup
[14:57] <curatrix> raven_: Then restart and try to reinstall.............after installation, you will have to restart the pc(you shouldnt have to but I have always done it with cpufreqd as it integrates with ACPI (power management) functions
[14:57] <lida_ok> zero2XIII i want to open on every machine. thats why it is portable. my friend does not allow me to install it on his machine.
[14:57] <zhonghai> @help
[14:58] <daftykins> Mekzholan: i'm assuming it comes up under lspci and not lsusb though? :)
[14:58] <zero2XIII> lida_ok: also teamviewer has a *.deb package on their website, if you NEED 8.
[14:58] <rypervenche> tga_: Can you pastebin your fstab for us and manually mount your drive using a live disk and then run a df -h for us as well?
[14:58] <tga_> rypervenche: how do I get around rebuilding all the boot stuff? shouldn't update-initramfs do that?
[14:58] <Mekzholan> daftykins: yup
[14:58] <lida_ok> zero2XIII: what you mean with: "or is it installed in ROOT/APPS/TEAMVIEWER....". this is a portable version.
[14:58] <tga_> rypervenche: yeah, I'm booting a livecd now
[14:58] <zero2XIII> lida_ok: so you want  a poratble version like the windows version?
[14:58] <raven_> curatrix, ok ill try that tnx
[14:58] <curatrix> raven_: Break a leg ;)
[14:59] <zero2XIII> lida_ok: the paths in the link you gave are root locations aka not based in your home folder
[14:59] <Mekzholan> daftykins: seems it's easily acceable. And ftp://ftp.dell.com/Manuals/all-products/esuprt_laptop/esuprt_vostro_notebook/vostro-3700_service%20manual_en-us.pdf shows on page 74 a picutre of the module
[15:00] <lida_ok> zero2XIII: ı should put it on my /home/username/ folder? why? ı get all permissions of /apps already.
[15:01] <zero2XIII> lida_ok: it is just strange to need to put it there, then own the directory, when you can simply run it from your home folder with no permission issues.. Tell me slowly again what you want to do
[15:01] <Mekzholan> daftykins: but looking on e.g. http://www.amazon.de/Intel-4965AGNMM2WB-Netzwerkkarte-Wireless-Mini-PCI/dp/B000RFPBQQ/ref=sr_1_7?ie=UTF8&qid=1371999146&sr=8-7&keywords=laptop+wlan+karte the connection looks similar - but the length is much longer?!?
[15:01] <tga_> rypervenche: mm stupid question, after opening the LUKS device how do I mount the lvm partition?
[15:01] <BlackmanOMG> HI MOTHER BUCKERS
[15:02] <ikonia> BlackmanOMG: please grow up if you want to participate in the channel.
[15:02]  * tga_ can't find the vg device anywyere
[15:02] <daftykins> Mekzholan: look up the exact card for a comment on its' interface name
[15:02] <BlackmanOMG> can i use ubuntu as CONDOM?
[15:02] <ikonia> tga_: you'll need an active volume group and logical volume before you can mount it
[15:02] <rypervenche> tga_: vgchange -a y
[15:03] <tobii> I want to change the root partition in  GRUB2. Where do I make the setting (it used to be /boot/grub/menu.lst in GRUB1 but it doesn't exist anymore)?
[15:03] <daftykins> tobii: /etc/default/grub perhaps
[15:03] <tga0> hm, device-mapper: create ioctl on ubuntu-root failed: Device or resource busy
[15:03] <curatrix> tobii:  look for 40custom
[15:04] <tobii> curatrix, kk
[15:04] <tga0> rypervenche: so this could be why the boot also fails, I can't make ubuntu-root active
[15:04] <lida_ok> zero2XIII: here the latest version of my explanation: https://gist.github.com/anonymous/5845337
[15:04] <BlackmanOMG> HI HI THERE IS A PROBLEM WITH MY AUDIO CAN ANY PEOPLE HERE HELP ME YO YO YO YO
[15:05]  * curatrix chuckles
[15:05] <Mekzholan> daftykins: 12:00.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4313 802.11b/g/n Wireless LAN Controller (rev 01)
[15:05] <Mekzholan>         Subsystem: Dell Inspiron M5010 / XPS 8300
[15:05] <cfhowlett> ikonia, smite/ban and nuke that fool, please.
[15:05] <Mekzholan> daftykins: and it seems to be Mini PCI Express Half-Size, I guess
[15:05] <tobii> daftykins, /etc/default/grub doesn't have the partitions locations
[15:06] <daftykins> Mekzholan: http://www.amazon.de/Intel-Ultimate-N-Wireless-LAN-Mini-PCIe-Karte/dp/B0038A9HSK/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1371999870&sr=8-1&keywords=intel+6300
[15:06] <cfhowlett> Mekzholan, i've the same wifi chipset.  There's a way to enable it directly from the boot cd/usb with about 2 minutes in the terminal.  Didn't even need to reboot and it's worked ever since.
[15:06] <zero2XIII> lida_ok: did you make all files execute able? Are you using the .tar.gz file or a .deb package?
[15:08] <rypervenche> tga0: What's it's saying?
[15:08] <Mekzholan> daftykins: thanks, size seem to fit. :) But what about the 3rd antenne? The laptop has only two of them...
[15:08] <lida_ok> zero2XIII: tar gz ofcorse. i did the file executable.
[15:08] <tga0> rypervenche: device-mapper: create ioctl on ubuntu-root failed: Device or resource busy
[15:08] <zero2XIII> lida_ok: Oka i will try and duplicate wat you are trying to do....
[15:09] <daftykins> Mekzholan: you could ignore it or get another and trail it around into the LCD, too much work though. the lower model 6100 i think it is has only 2
[15:09] <lida_ok>  zero2XIII: thank you so much.
[15:09] <Eagleman> Can rsnapshot run daily and weekly jobs at the same times without having a conflict?
[15:09] <daftykins> Mekzholan: of course sometimes laptops won't even let you change the card, so there is some risk. have you seen cfhowlett's message about your existing being easy to setup?
[15:10] <lida_ok>  zero2XIII you can connect me via teamviewer.
[15:10] <lida_ok>  zero2XIII do not make all this thing again.
[15:11] <Mekzholan> daftykins: yes I have seen cfhowlett, but I fear it's not helping me. The card is working. But either slowly or making WLAN unusable for every one else. All with lot's of system log entries. Launchpad is full of them...
[15:11] <Mekzholan> daftykins: I guess http://www.amazon.de/Intel-Advanced-N-PCI-Express-Netztwerkkarte-unterst%C3%BCtzt/dp/B003QXDHSK/ref=sr_1_16?s=computers&ie=UTF8&qid=1371999971&sr=1-16&keywords=wlan+mini+pci+express would be a good alternative then
[15:11] <zero2XIII> lida_ok: oka?
[15:11] <jrib> Eagleman: I don't see why not, but why would you want to do that?  I do recall it being suggested that you space out your backup times a bit so they don't happen at the same time.  I imagine it would still make the backups though
[15:11] <lida_ok>  zero2XIII send me pm please.
[15:12] <lida_ok>  zero2XIII i will give you password and id of teamviewer.
[15:12] <daftykins> Mekzholan: yeah that's the one
[15:12] <Eagleman> jrib, i am setting up my cronjob for rsnapshot
[15:12] <tga0> rypervenche: alright, so I am in a chroot, how do I fix my boot situation?
[15:12] <tga0> rypervenche: other than update-initramfs all
[15:12] <zero2XIII> lida_ok: araight
[15:12] <rypervenche> tga0: give us a df -h and and your fstab
[15:13] <rypervenche> tga0: In a pastebin of course.
[15:13] <Mekzholan> daftykins: thanks for the help, I'll order it and try my luck now :)
[15:13] <delac> any  way to disable auto start of sshd on 13.04?
[15:13] <jrib> Eagleman: yes, just give some time for each backup... That's what I do.  Something like 3am monthly, 3:30am weekl, 4am daily, etc.
[15:13] <Eagleman> jrib, but there might be people out there that will have rsnapshot run for a few hours before it will be completed, so i have no idea how they set up their timings for rsnapshot on a cronjob
[15:14] <daftykins> Mekzholan: no problem!
[15:14] <wissam> Hi ,how can i view google translate result in the command line without opening the webpage?
[15:15] <wissam> using wget or other tool for example?
[15:16] <flux242> http://www.commandlinefu.com/commands/tagged/1189/translate
[15:16] <tga0> rypervenche: http://pastie.org/8072260
[15:16] <curatrix> wissam: http://crunchbang.org/forums/viewtopic.php?id=17034
[15:16] <tga0> rypervenche: nothing too interesting in there
[15:17] <tga0> rypervenche: one potential issue is that I installed the system on /dev/sda and now the same disk is on /dev/sdd
[15:17] <tga0> afaict all mounts are by UUID though
[15:18] <flux242> I always check commanlinefu first for all cli commands
[15:18] <wissam> t curatrix:thnx
[15:18] <wissam> curatrix:thnx
[15:18] <rypervenche> tga0: That'll do it.
[15:18] <curatrix> wissam: Break a leg ;)
[15:19] <tga0> rypervenche: so the problem is that on boot my encrypted volume doesn't get opened and /dev/mapper/ubuntu-root doesn't exist
[15:20] <tga0> that is after running out of space on /boot on an upgrade
[15:20] <rypervenche> tga0: Your /boot is encrypted?
[15:20] <tga0> of course not
[15:20]  * iarebaboo is very happy
[15:20] <tga0> that would be interesting
[15:21] <Turaylon> hi guys, i have  a little problem: i have windows 8 installed on my ssd and i have a second hdd for data storage, now  i have installed ubuntu on the second hdd but when i boot my pc windows 8 starts whitout grub is showing up. i must reinstall grub?
[15:21] <tga0> rypervenche: when running update-initramfs -u I am getting warnings about my root fs missing from /etc/crypttab
[15:21] <reisio> Turaylon: did you install Windows after Ubuntu, or before?
[15:22] <Turaylon> reisio, before
[15:22] <rypervenche> tga0: What's in /etc/crypttab? pastebin it
[15:22] <tga0> rypervenche: not sure whether that's an issue, I read somewhere those are not a problem
[15:22] <reisio> Turaylon: k, probably whatever automated grub installation happened failed, then
[15:22] <reisio> you'd have to reinsatll it, and probably manually :)
[15:22] <tga0> rypervenche: empty for all practical purposes
[15:22] <compdoc> Turaylon, in the bios, see what happens if you set the pc to boot the hdd
[15:22] <tga0> rypervenche: I only have 2 storage drives in there, nothing about ubuntu-root
[15:22] <nooros> Turaylon: is this uefi?
[15:23] <rypervenche> tga0: It needs to have root in there.
[15:23] <tga0> oh
[15:23] <Turaylon> nooros, uefi?
[15:23] <orogor> hi , anyone here converted to uefi boot ?
[15:23] <Turaylon> compdoc i give a try
[15:24] <nooros> orogor: i have installed under UEFI, difficulty varies depending on machine. I think people (hardware and linux) have bugs to fix stil
[15:24] <rypervenche> tga0: Also, are you 100% sure that your /boot is using that UUID in your fstab?
[15:25] <rypervenche> tga0: run "blkid" to make sure.
[15:25] <Turaylon> btw i try to reboot whit other hdd :D see you soon :P thx all
[15:25] <tga0> rypervenche: /boot is fine because I get a fully functional busybox
[15:25] <tga0> the trouble is with my root fs not being mounted
[15:26] <rypervenche> tga0: Yep, and that is why. If you need help with the syntax pastebin your current crypttab and I can help.
[15:26] <tga0> rypervenche: what UUID should I have for root in crypttab?
[15:26] <tga0> rypervenche: blkid /dev/mapper/ubuntu-root?
[15:26] <tga0> or /dev/sdd5, that is the encrypted volume?
[15:27] <tga0> rypervenche: nm, /dev/sdd5 of course
[15:27] <rypervenche> tga0: it will show up in blkid, I would just use the /dev/mapper/ubuntu-root but if you feel that you have to use the UUID, you can find it in /dev/disk/by-uuid/
[15:28] <kingvillage> hang when I press minimize button in unity, but mouse still responsive, what happen about this?
[15:28] <nooros> kingvillage: Have you turned off the 'allow file manager to use desktop' or have gnome 3.8 installed?
[15:29] <nooros> kingvillage: either of those 2 on 13.04 have a bug where it sometimes hangs when you  minimis the last window
[15:29] <kingvillage> nooros: i dont have gnome 3.8 installed
[15:30] <tga0> rypervenche: well, I added my ubuntu-root to /dev/crypttab but update-initramfs still complains
[15:30] <tga0> rypervenche: it might not be an issue though, not sure there
[15:30] <kingvillage> yes it hang when minimize last window, how to do about this?
[15:30] <rypervenche> tga0: Pastebin the file /etc/crypttab
[15:30] <yva> Whne I try to connect a google apps account to ubuntu I have the following error: (gnome-control-center:13180): credentials-cc-panel-CRITICAL **: cc_credentials_account_application_switch_on_app_account_enabled: assertion `service != NULL' failed any ideas where the issue could be?
[15:30] <tga0> rypervenche: ubuntu-root UUID=dead-beef none luks
[15:31] <tga0> rypervenche: with the UUID of my /dev/sdd5, that contains the encrypted root
[15:31] <rypervenche> tga0: Please pastebin the whole thing
[15:31] <tga0> rypervenche: that is the whole thing
[15:32] <delac> any  way to disable auto start of sshd on 13.04?
[15:32] <k1l_> delac: edit the upstart job
[15:32] <k1l_> !upstart | delac
[15:32] <tga0> rypervenche: any idea what script decrypts and mounts the root fs at boot?
[15:33] <rypervenche> tga0: Um...your UUID is dead-beef?
[15:33] <rypervenche> tga0: I thought you said that you had your storage drives in your crypttab as well?
[15:33] <lovethang_> Hi folks, I have a Kubuntu VM that has an encrypted home directory on.  The entire OS has fallen apart at the hinges, and I am desperate to get my data off.  I have no access to login to KDE, how can I quickly achieve an early console before X launches please?
[15:33] <tga0> rypervenche: I told you, the uuid is the one for /dev/sdd5, that holds the encrypted root
[15:34] <tga0> rypervenche: and that's the whole file, I took everything else out
[15:34] <delac> k1l_: so you are saying that editing the /etc/init/ssh.conf should do the trick? does that file survive if sshd is updated?
[15:35] <Giorgaras> where are the program files in ubuntu?
[15:35] <Giorgaras> how are they called?
[15:35] <Turaylon> nothing, if i set other HDD , windows start too
[15:36] <Turaylon> i try to reinstall grub, just a little question: i must install it on the hdd where is installed windows or where is installed ubuntu?
[15:36] <wheatthin> Turaylon, where you installed ubuntu, and then set ubuntu to boot first
[15:37] <wheatthin> in bios
[15:37] <gabriele_> delac: echo "start on manual" >> /etc/init/ssh.override
[15:37] <LucidDreamZzZ> hey pls how to fix mouse speed in ubuntu?
[15:37] <Turaylon> thx
[15:38] <rypervenche> tga0: Your entry in /etc/crypttab is wrong.
[15:38] <curatrix> Giorgaras: http://lotphelp.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/filesystemhierarchyhb8.jpg
[15:38] <tga0> rypervenche: alright, what should be in there?
[15:38] <rypervenche> tga0: It should be "ubuntu /dev/sdd5 none" if that is where you have your encrypted partition
[15:39] <rypervenche> oops, sorry, not ubuntu, root rather
[15:39] <LucidDreamZzZ> mouse is way way way too fast
[15:39] <rypervenche> I think...not sure now.
[15:39] <Turaylon> is a valid solution use boot-repair?
[15:39] <tga0> rypervenche: right, so instead of /dev/sdd5 I have the UUID
[15:39] <tga0> it seems to also accept that
[15:40] <rypervenche> tga0: It's not supposed to be "ubuntu-root" though.
[15:40] <tga0> oh, ok
[15:40] <rypervenche> tga0: Either ubuntu or root, I don't remember which. I haven't done this on a Debian-based system in a while.
[15:41] <delac> gabriele_: thanks, this seems like it might actually work
[15:41] <nimbiotics> hello all. how can i find out the nsame of my video card ... which i cant remember? TIA!
[15:41] <orogor> if on uefi i should have a /boot and a /boot/efi  ?
[15:41] <tga0> rypervenche: do you happen to know how --hint-baremetal works in grub.conf?
[15:42] <curatrix> nimbiotics: inxi -Gx
[15:42] <tga0> rypervenche: grub.cfg rather
[15:42] <LucidDreamZzZ> mouse to fast pls advise tried control panel and its at the lowest setting
[15:43] <tga0> rypervenche: http://pastie.org/8072336
[15:43] <LucidDreamZzZ> its hard to even do anything
[15:43] <tga0> rypervenche: this is in my grub.cfg, if you look at the "search" lines what devices are those? hd3,msdos1, etc
[15:44] <nimbiotics> curatrix: i get "command not found"
[15:44] <curatrix> LucidDreamZzZ: Some mice(mouse)have a resolution switch on the mouse(sometimes it has to be opened to change a jumper)
[15:46] <LucidDreamZzZ> curatrix, ok it has the buttons to switch on mouse but they dont work, it is g500
[15:48] <LucidDreamZzZ> thnaks maybe im using diff mouse
[15:48] <curatrix> LucidDreamZzZ: checking
[15:49] <LucidDreamZzZ> yeah ms intellimouse is working fine
[15:50] <LucidDreamZzZ> would there be drivers even that would be nice
[15:51] <auronandace> LucidDreamZzZ: if you are running 10.04 then desktop support has ended
[15:51] <nintet> i need help with my permissions
[15:52] <nintet> i cant write to a new disk
[15:52] <LucidDreamZzZ> i am on the lts desktop
[15:52] <tga0> rypervenche: if I do get the xubuntu graphic and then a busybox prompt that means that my grub is working fine, right?
[15:52] <curatrix> LucidDreamZzZ: Type       man xinput            and have a read....I am still searching
[15:53] <LucidDreamZzZ> curatrix, ok great i try that may be what i need
[15:54] <wheatthin> tga0, it means grub is installed fine, but configured wrong.. it finds boot, but not the root where the installed kernel is
[15:55] <tga0> grub.cfg has become a mess, it used to be sweet and short
[15:55] <tga0> now it's this long autogenerated file with everything under the sun
[15:55] <overdrive> hols
[15:55] <tga0> wheatthin: my encrypted root doesn't get mounted at boot so I'm trying to figure out why
[15:56] <overdrive> hi
[15:56] <tga0> wheatthin: it's normal for the boot partition to be set as root in grub, right?
[15:57] <giwrgaras> i cannot copy items to my lib?
[15:57] <giwrgaras> wth
[15:57] <giwrgaras> ??
[15:57] <wheatthin> tga0, no. boot is always /boot
[15:57] <tga0> wheatthin: in grub.cfg
[16:01] <curatrix> LucidDreamZzZ: http://ubuntu.5.x6.nabble.com/Cut-mouse-polling-rate-in-half-td1448994.html
[16:08] <chunkyhead> guys, i got list of packages installed from dpkg --get-selections, now how do i install them using a script maybe? i dont want to sit and type sudo apt-get install
[16:09] <wheatthin> chunkyhead, you can cat the list of packages into a file
[16:09] <chunkyhead> it's already in a file, can you elaborate a bit more?
[16:09] <wheatthin> truncate it, enough to just list the packages, and not version.. and then install it
[16:10] <wheatthin> then cat file | apt-get install
[16:10] <jrib> chunkyhead: « man dpkg », scroll to the EXAMPLES section and then see the examples involving --get-selections and --set-selections
[16:10] <chunkyhead> but how to make them appear one by one not all at once
[16:10] <chunkyhead> wheatthin, ^
[16:10] <chunkyhead> jrib, let me check that out
[16:11] <zero2XIII> chunkyhead: dpkg --set-selections < installed-software && dselect #select and install all packages from list in current working directory
[16:12] <chunkyhead> what do you mean by installed software zero2XIII
[16:12] <MJCD> Hey guys - I have a filesystem question. If I have a directory /a/ and I create a folder /a/b/ - the file modification time of /a/ is updated, but if I create /a/b/c/, then /a/'s modification time does not seem to get updated
[16:12] <MJCD> ?
[16:12] <zero2XIII> chunkyhead: that is the file name: see here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=261366
[16:13] <jrib> MJCD: that seems plausible
[16:13] <chunkyhead> zero2XIII, what would dselect do?
[16:14] <tga0> rypervenche: interesting, I found one issue that might break things
[16:14] <tga0> ubuntu-root and ubuntu-cache are both inside /dev/sdd5
[16:14] <zero2XIII> chunkyhead: it is a package management front end... but I forgot, it is not installed by default
[16:14] <tga0> so mapping /dev/sdd5 to "ubuntu-root" doesn't allow ubuntu-root to come out
[16:15] <chunkyhead> no wonder wasn't getting on the manpage zero2XIII
[16:15] <zero2XIII> chunkyhead: sorry my bad :$
[16:16] <MJCD> yeah I just did a test case
[16:16] <MJCD> [/a/ created a:<PHONE_NUMBER>] [/a/b created: a:<PHONE_NUMBER> b:<PHONE_NUMBER>] [/a/b/c created: a:<PHONE_NUMBER> b:<PHONE_NUMBER> c:<PHONE_NUMBER>]
[16:16] <MJCD> So it's correct, it only changes the modified time one directory up
[16:16] <MJCD> that seems pretty dumb
[16:17] <zero2XIII> chunkyhead: dpkg -i should then install the selected packages
[16:17] <rednet> wie komm ich in den deutschen anfänger irc
[16:17] <rednet> für ubuntu
[16:19] <Guest54349> is there anyone use cubiboard
[16:19] <chunkyhead> zero2XIII, dpkg -i installs deb packages right? these are name of packs on a text file. more over when i type sudo dpkg --set-selections < file-name, i get alot of warnings like these "dpkg: warning: package not in database at line 13: w3m"
[16:20] <rednet> who is the german channal for ubuntuuser baisic
[16:20] <k1l_> rednet: "/join #ubuntu-de"
[16:20] <Neuhristide> :/
[16:21] <zero2XIII> chunkyhead: then those are 3rd party repros, or not activated repros. and yes, or you can try the dpkg -a option (dpkg --pending)
[16:21] <Neuhristide> Okay I can speak, so, I have a question : http://paste.ubuntu.com/5792146/ With this list I don't have KDE 4.10.4 ..
[16:21] <d4rkn30> is there any way i can remove the main Ubuntu mirrors ?
[16:21] <chunkyhead> yes they are 3rd party repos, zero2XIII
[16:21] <Neuhristide> but KDE 4.10.4 is on Backport repository, and backport repository is in this list
[16:21] <Neuhristide> What I must do for fix that ?
[16:22] <k1l_> d4rkn30: can you rephrase?
[16:22] <zero2XIII> chunkyhead: then you need to add them to the repro list first, then sudo apt-get update, and then do the dpkg --set-selections < file-name and after that do the dpkg -a (or dpkg --pending)
[16:22] <d4rkn30> k1l_, you see , i searched for fastest mirrors, but it still wants to use the ubuntu.com ones
[16:23] <k1l_> d4rkn30: you can change the ursl in /etc/apt/sources.list
[16:23] <k1l_> d4rkn30: but be aware of the changes and make a backup of that file
[16:23] <d4rkn30> k1l_, thats what i thought but i wasnt to sure, if it would break my install \
[16:24] <chunkyhead> zero2XIII, repo list is sources.list right?
[16:24] <zero2XIII> chunkyhead: yes as far as I know
[16:24] <chunkyhead> located in /etc/apt?
[16:24] <k1l_> chunkyhead: the PPA dont come into the sources.list
[16:24] <wheatthin> after changing to the faster server, use apt-get update
[16:25] <k1l_> chunkyhead: just use add-apt-repository
[16:25] <KeyboardNotFound> Can I install ubuntu server on normal PC ?
[16:25] <wheatthin> KeyboardNotFound, yup
[16:25] <k1l_> KeyboardNotFound: yes
[16:25] <aguitel> yes
[16:25] <d4rkn30> KeyboardNotFound, yes
[16:25] <chunkyhead> k1l_, but i have hundreds of repos to add lol
[16:25] <zero2XIII> chunkyhead: k1l_ is right, PPA's dont go there... Looking for alternative now...
[16:26] <aguitel> only cli
[16:26] <k1l_> hundreds? o_O
[16:26] <d4rkn30> chunkyhead, then make a script,
[16:26] <chunkyhead> i was thinking of creating a .sh file which says sudo apt-get install -y <packname>
[16:26] <KeyboardNotFound> What are the requirements for installing of ubuntu server ?
[16:26] <stef1a> Using 13.04 and an AMD / ATI HD Radeon gfx card with fglrx and Unity installed. Everything works fine, but with an external monitor, I cannot set my virtual monitor's size to encapsulate both screens -- it says the maximum screen size is set lower than the size I want to set. How do I fix this?
[16:26] <chunkyhead> but then that's too much of an editing job d4rk0wl zero2XIII
[16:27] <chunkyhead> i was thinking of creating a .sh file which says sudo apt-get install -y <packname>, but then that's too much of an editing job d4rk0wl zero2XIII
[16:27] <zero2XIII> chunkyhead: pastebin your install file, and the source list
[16:28] <draar> KeyboardNotFound: the minimum *recommended* are on the website. You can fit into a lot less space if you try
[16:29] <zero2XIII> chunkyhead: even if you create such a script, you still need to add the sources.
[16:29] <chunkyhead> zero2XIII, sources.list = http://paste.ubuntu.com/5792977/, packs= http://paste.ubuntu.com/5792985/
[16:29] <jrib> MJCD: why do you say it is dumb?
[16:30] <zero2XIII> chunkyhead: thanks give me a few...
[16:30] <k1l_> KeyboardNotFound: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SystemRequirements
[16:30] <chunkyhead> zero2XIII, for some yes, for most others i won't have to. the left out ones. give u a few what?
[16:30] <Friberg> Hello :) Anyone running HD7970 with multiple monitors in Ubuntu?
[16:30] <wheatthin> chunkyhead, minutes
[16:30] <MJCD> jrib, Because in what way has the outer container (/a/) not been modified when it has new contents
[16:30] <chunkyhead> lol my bad wheatthin
[16:30] <chunkyhead> zero2XIII, ^
[16:30] <jrib> MJCD: a directory is basically just a listing of its contents.  When you add a file to /a/b, b changes (i.e. the list of contents in b changes), but a does not (i.e. the list of contents of a does not)
[16:31] <draar> MJCD: How would you tell when was the last write to / ?
[16:31] <zero2XIII> chunkyhead: the ones that gave erros in dpkg will not install, the other will. I want to create a script real quick to add the extra repros for you
[16:31] <MJCD> draar, huh
[16:31] <jrib> MJCD: this is my understanding of how it works.  I see why you may want it to work the way you are saying though.
[16:31] <draar> MJCD: If you did it your way, any timestamp on / would be meaningless as anytime you saved any file, the parent would update its modification timestamp?
[16:31] <chunkyhead> zero2XIII, let me edit the pack lists real quick, hold on
[16:31] <KeyboardNotFound> Which is best ubuntu server version /
[16:31] <chunkyhead> coz most are ubuntu preinstalled, "just give me a few" :P
[16:31] <chunkyhead> ^zero
[16:31] <MJCD> draar, Only on the parent directory.. not on any of its contents
[16:32] <draar> KeyboardNotFound: define "best"
[16:32] <MJCD> and only the filemtime
[16:32] <chunkyhead> coz most are ubuntu preinstalled, "just give me a few" :P zero2XIII
[16:32] <k1l_> KeyboardNotFound: there is no best. just use the LTS, since its got long suport timeframe
[16:32] <zero2XIII> chunkyhead: oka, this also seems like the original source list? hahahaha yea sorry that was a typo
[16:32] <KeyboardNotFound> Thanks
[16:32] <chunkyhead> yep it is zero2XIII
[16:33] <zero2XIII> chunkyhead: oki doki
[16:33] <chunkyhead> actually i'd del the edited one, testdisk ftw! zero2XIII
[16:34] <chunkyhead> zero2XIII, woohooo http://paste.ubuntu.com/5792995/
[16:34] <draar> MJCD: Wouldnt that be inconsistent? How would it work with symlinks?
[16:34] <zero2XIII> chunkyhead: thats a clean install?
[16:34] <draar> KeyboardNotFound: What specific thing will you be using the server for?
[16:35] <chunkyhead> zero2XIII, installed 13.04 today. was real tired of slow kde screwing my laptop.
[16:35] <zero2XIII> chunkyhead: so you want the diference between the two files to be installed?
[16:35] <MJCD> draar, Regardless, it would always iterate up... So creating /home/MJCD/a would affect /home/ and /MJCD/ with the current time
[16:36] <MJCD> and hell, even / with the current time
[16:36] <MJCD> it makes sense to me
[16:36] <chunkyhead> no no, i just want to install these http://paste.ubuntu.com/5792995/
[16:36] <draar> MJCD: so the timestamp for / will be continually changing?
[16:36] <MJCD> its like if you had a bunch of different sized boxes.. You put a small box inside a medium box.. Then you put the medium box inside the large box..
[16:36] <MJCD> Is the large box different than it was?
[16:36] <MJCD> Ofcourse it is.
[16:37] <chunkyhead> no no, i just want to install these http://paste.ubuntu.com/5792995/ zero2XIII
[16:37] <MJCD> It's got two boxes inside it it didnt have before
[16:37] <draar> MJCD: There are hundreds of file operations every second; what would this do to system performance?
[16:38] <draar> MJCD: And besides the whole point of a hierarchial file system is to separate things so you dont look inside the box
[16:38] <MJCD> It already updates two. It would only become an issue with paths say.. 100 directories deep.. Which does happen.. but if you're writing to files 100 directories deep every secon
[16:38] <MJCD> d
[16:38] <zero2XIII> chunkyhead: oh oka then just pipe that file to dpkg and see what programs need 3rd party repros
[16:38] <MJCD> you probably have bigger issues
[16:38] <zero2XIII> chunkyhead: it will be the ones with erros
[16:39] <zero2XIII> chunkyhead: it works on my system, marks them with no errors so I have all the repros
[16:39] <MJCD> draar, The whole point of a HIERACHIAL system is usually to implement complete inheritance models..
[16:39] <chunkyhead> zero2XIII, this should do it right? dpkg --set-selection < packagesnew && dselect
[16:40] <raven_> how to improve night vision of motion? any way to increase shutter time to 1 second?
[16:40] <zero2XIII> if you installed dselect before that yes
[16:40] <zero2XIII> chunkyhead: sudo apt-get install dselect
[16:40] <chunkyhead> lol yeah did that zero2XIII
[16:40] <reisio> raven_: better camera
[16:40] <zero2XIII> chunkyhead: then yes it should work
[16:41] <raven_> reisio, how to do that by software
[16:41] <reisio> raven_: by selling software to earn money to buy a better camera
[16:41] <jrib> chunkyhead: do note that you don't need to install dselect (though it's fine if you do).  dpkg man page gives the apt-get command you can use instead
[16:41] <raven_> reisio, you think you're funny?
[16:41] <draar> MJCD: Talking about inheirtance now? You know that if you make a class in (say) C++ and you inherit from it, and you change an instance of the derived class, it doesnt set any kind of modification flag on the parent instance unless you specifically tell it to?
[16:42] <zero2XIII> jrib: what is it, I have looked over it then hahaha
[16:43] <jrib> zero2XIII: apt-get dselect-upgrade
[16:43] <zero2XIII> jrib: Ah just found it, almost the very bottom, thanks :)
[16:44] <d4rkn30> whats the name of the filemanager in xubuntu
[16:44] <chunkyhead> for some reason this looks like sudo apt-get upgrade to me :S http://paste.ubuntu.com/5793018/
[16:44] <reisio> raven_: I know I am, but if you're asking if I'm trying to be funny ATM, I'm not
[16:44] <stefg> d4rkn30: thunar
[16:45] <d4rkn30> stefg, Thanks
[16:45] <zero2XIII> jrib: gave you credit for pointing me at it: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2140012&p=12623446#post12623446
[16:46] <draar> d4rkn30: Thunar (thunarr?)
[16:46] <draar> wow that was lagged
[16:46] <d4rkn30> draar, Just a little bit xD
[16:47] <chunkyhead> for some reason this looks like sudo apt-get upgrade to me :S http://paste.ubuntu.com/5793018/ except for 3-4 packages, i've to add repos for the rest -__-
[16:47] <chunkyhead> zero2XIII, ^
[16:47] <zero2XIII> chunkyhead: did you do "apt-get update" before you ran apt-get dselect-upgrade?
[16:47] <chunkyhead> i did zero2XIII
[16:47] <zero2XIII> chunkyhead: are all your repros active? multiverse and universe? cause "cheese" is in the normal repros
[16:49] <chunkyhead> zero2XIII, when i type sudo apt-get dselect-upgrade it gives me the same output as sudo apt-get upgrade
[16:49] <chunkyhead> and i did not do dselect-upgrade, my bad
[16:50] <zero2XIII> chunkyhead: yea i thought you might not have, strange, try sudo apt-get install cheese
[16:50] <zero2XIII> chunkyhead: just want to see if that gives error aswell
[16:50] <chunkyhead> zero2XIII, was going exactly that hold on
[16:51] <chunkyhead> the repos is working zero2XIII it asks me if i want to install cheese y/n, i guess the problem is with dpkg
[16:51] <chunkyhead> zero2XIII, ^
[16:52] <zero2XIII> chunkyhead: that truelly is strange, install synaptic, and do it in there, (if you have GUI environment). Both works fine for me... just installed the complete list on my system
[16:52] <Friberg> wow. not even ubuntu runs good on my machine. just crashes with all the screens :(
[16:54] <reisio> :D
[16:54] <stefg> Friberg: so that machine might be to blame, not the OS... did a hardware check recently? (bad RAM, dying harddrive?)
[16:54] <chunkyhead> zero2XIII, what do you want me to install thru synaptic?
[16:55] <zero2XIII> chunkyhead: the list, you can select the list in synaptic. By going file > read markings
[16:55] <zero2XIII> chunkyhead:
[16:56] <zero2XIII> chunkyhead: hold on a sec
[16:56] <chunkyhead> zero2XIII, that should contain just packnames right?
[16:56] <zero2XIII> chunkyhead: nope the exact same file you are trying to send to dpkg can be used in synaptic
[16:56] <sgo11> hi for postfix and dovecot, I followed the tutorial in ubuntu wiki and make dirs by using maildirmake.dovecot /home/vmail/$domain/$user/.Sent etc.. But when I do test with evolution imap client, sent mails and drafts are not saved in those directories. why? and how can I make all sent drafts mails saved automatically? thanks.
[16:57] <zero2XIII> chunkyhead: look here: http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=79006
[16:58] <stefg> sgo11: while i have no idea about your problem you might want to ask this in #ubuntu-server
[16:58] <sgo11> stefg, ok. thanks.
[17:00] <zero2XIII> chunkyhead: try "dselect update" and then the above again if it fails with database warnings again.
[17:02] <chunkyhead> zero2XIII, i dont use synaptic that often, help me out. i go to read markings and then add my packfile and then it says mark additional required changes, chosen action affects other packages, the following changes are required in order to proceed, lists all the packages which i get when i type sudo apt-get upgrade an then asks me to mark, when i click once it closes(the mark window) and i have synaptic in front of me. after t
[17:02] <chunkyhead> hat?
[17:03] <cesar_> hola
[17:03] <cesar_> buenos dias amigos
[17:03] <Guest52700> quiero por favor un consejo de ustedes
[17:03] <stefg> !es
[17:04] <Guest52700> necesito cambiar todas las maquinas de la empresa para la que trabajo a ubuntu
[17:04] <zero2XIII> chunkyhead: check if stuff is correctly marked, such as amarok?  you click on the top left column header to show all the marked to install packages first (like sorting)
[17:04] <Guest52700> me recomiendan algun tema para que se parezca a windows porque los usuarios no entienden ubuntu
[17:05] <oye> Guest52700: #ubuntu-es
[17:05] <chunkyhead> zero2XIII, i get this  http://paste.ubuntu.com/5793083/
[17:06] <DJones> !es | Guest52700
[17:06] <zero2XIII> chunkyhead: you need to close synaptic and all other package management programs first, otherwise the directory stays locked
[17:06] <Guest53578> Me estas hablando a mi?
[17:06] <Guest52700> si a cualquiera
[17:06] <Guest53578> ok
[17:06] <Guest52700> que me pueda ayudar
[17:07] <Guest53578> Por que cuando trato de instalar amd catalyst 13.04, ununtu me instala es la version 12.1?
[17:07] <chunkyhead> zero2XIII, get the same thing when i run apt-get dselect-update with synaptic shut
[17:08] <zero2XIII> chunkyhead: are all the package management programs closed?
[17:08] <chunkyhead> yep zero2XIII
[17:08] <zero2XIII> chunkyhead: hold on a sec, just wana see something before I tell you to remove the lock file
[17:09] <chunkyhead> zero2XIII, sure
[17:10] <chunkyhead> can you see this?
[17:10] <chunkyhead> zero2XIII, ^
[17:10] <zero2XIII> chunkyhead: yes sorry
[17:10] <zero2XIII> chunkyhead: trying to duplicate the issue for the exact command
[17:10] <chunkyhead> i d/c so was checking am i back
[17:11] <marcoagpinto> Hello
[17:11] <zero2XIII> chunkyhead: oraight
[17:11] <Dustin> Hi there. I am on Ubuntu 13.04, fresh install, new user. Now when I use "sudo gedit filename.extension", how come in the same directory a "hidden" file is created with the same name, followed by "~" IE: "filename.extension~" and never removed after?
[17:11] <varikonniemi> ok, someone try this: take firefox, left-maximize it and then press maximize. Does it bug out for you?
[17:12] <Friberg> stefg: Well, I've been running Windows 8 for some time, with 2 screens in height, 3 in width for quite some time now. 5760x2160.
[17:12] <reisio> Dustin: it's called a 'swap' file
[17:12] <varikonniemi> wow, not only firefox but any window? !
[17:12] <reisio> Dustin: it's useful if things go wrong
[17:12] <Friberg> So I doubt its the hardware
[17:12] <marcoagpinto> I have ubuntu 12.10 and 13.04 in VMs... I was updating 12.10 and it showed a progress bar... on 13.04 there is no progress bar... I entered my password and pressed ENTER... was there something I needed to click?
[17:12] <Dustin> reisio: do they ever remove themselves? Or do I have to manually do that?
[17:12] <reisio> Dustin: most things that use such files remove them upon successfully, normally ceasing activity to do with the file
[17:13] <reisio> Dustin: so when things go wrong, they remain, and when they go right, they do not
[17:13] <reisio> some editors allow the option to have them remain regardless, which is odd :)
[17:13] <reisio> I doubt gedit is one, but I've never used it much
[17:13] <zero2XIII> chunkyhead: I am having a hard time getting a clean command just do this:
[17:13] <reisio> brb
[17:13] <zero2XIII> chunkyhead: sudo rm /var/lib/dpkg/lock
[17:13] <AfroDiva> Why when i try to install amd-catalyst version 13.4 it always install version 12.1?
[17:13] <varikonniemi> guys? is this a known bug in unity? left-maximized windows fail to maximize!
[17:14] <chunkyhead> zero2XIII, should i backup lock first maybe?
[17:14] <stefg> Friberg: that's probably a not so well tested use case for graphics drivers...
[17:14] <Dustin> reisio: awesome, thank you for the information. I do think gedit is doing it, as I always use gedit as my edior, that or nano.  (I did restart, has been a few hours, they still exist).
[17:15] <zero2XIII> chunkyhead: no it is a file created by a program to have exclusive access to a folder or drive etc. It does nothing but "lock" it to that process
[17:15] <Friberg> stefg: I guess not. I'm running HD7970 with two DVI and four DP for this. But yeah, doesn't work out of the box :(
[17:15] <zero2XIII> chunkyhead:
[17:15] <chunkyhead> zero2XIII, semaphore! Ooo.
[17:15] <zero2XIII> chunkyhead: oooh hold on
[17:15] <Dustin> reisio: yes, after further investigating, there is an option
[17:15] <Dustin> thank you
[17:15] <zero2XIII> chunkyhead: sudo fuser -v /var/lib/dpkg/lock
[17:15] <zero2XIII> chunkyhead: that works to show what process is locking the directory
[17:16] <r33t> i need help finding my wlan!
[17:16] <chunkyhead> nope, i get blank. no o/p zero2XIII
[17:16] <zero2XIII> chunkyhead: great, then just rm it
[17:17] <zero2XIII> chunkyhead: and then dselect update again
[17:17] <r0uh> Hello, his is everyone?
[17:18] <chunkyhead> zero2XIII, 172mb to download T_T
[17:18] <r33t> how can i find my wlan ? comp: hp-probook-4515
[17:19] <zero2XIII> chunkyhead: so everything is working now?
[17:19] <chunkyhead> shoudn't sudo apt-get dselect-upgrade just ask me to upgrade dselect and not everything else?
[17:19] <Friberg> Now I have all my screens and can move my mouse around, but I have no UI..
[17:20] <zero2XIII> chunkyhead: no JUST "dselect update"
[17:20] <zero2XIII> chunkyhead: no apt
[17:21] <reisio> Dustin: yeah it's more useful for system files than personal files
[17:21] <reisio> so you can quickly fix a screwup, instead of restoring from backup
[17:21] <reisio> vim does it by default, for example
[17:21] <reisio> Dustin: I've seen some where you could specify the path, as well, so it's always, for example ~/unified.swp
[17:21] <chunkyhead> this is funny zero2XIII  http://paste.ubuntu.com/5793130/
[17:21] <Dustin> reisio: that would be cool
[17:21] <reisio> and you don't have to end up doing things like find ~/ -iname '*.swp' (-delete)
[17:21] <Dustin> I would like the ability to do that.
[17:22] <reisio> or *~, etc.
[17:22] <zero2XIII> chunkyhead: meh.... see "sudo dselect access"
[17:22] <zero2XIII> chunkyhead: is the apt  line selected?
[17:23] <chunkyhead> selected as in zero2XIII
[17:23] <zero2XIII> chunkyhead: a little star I think
[17:24] <zero2XIII> chunkyhead: ill upload a pic
[17:24] <btbradley> I've got a touchscreen that sometimes works and sometimes doesn't. it seems random and can change when you suspend or shutdown. anyone have any ideas?
[17:25] <chunkyhead> zero2XIII, it has the star
[17:25] <raven_> how to set image size in MOTION?
[17:25] <chunkyhead> http://screencloud.net/v/u9Wf zero2XIII
[17:25] <zero2XIII> oh awesome
[17:25] <zero2XIII> chunkyhead: ^
[17:26] <zero2XIII> chunkyhead: try doing the dpkg step now
[17:27] <chunkyhead> dpkg --set-selections < packname && dselect. this right?
[17:27] <zero2XIII> chunkyhead: remove the && dselect for now
[17:27] <nimbiotics> Hello all. While trying to install latest nvidia drivers (this has also happened before though) I get asked to ""please insert the disc labelled 'Ubuntu-Studio 13.04 _Raring Ringtail_ - Release i386 (20130424)' in the drive '/media/cdrom/' and press enter"" I insert the cd I used for installation purposes and press enter, only to have the same requested again and again. How can I fix this?? TIA!!
[17:27] <zero2XIII> chunkyhead: just "sudo dpkg --set-selections < packname "
[17:27] <btbradley> I think it must be some sort of timeout that sometimes gets hit and sometimes doesn't when it loads the driver or something...the touchscreen always appears in the xinput list regardless of whether it's working or not
[17:28] <chunkyhead> zero2XIII, got this http://paste.ubuntu.com/5793157/, but then it didn't install anything O.o
[17:29] <odziom91> nimbiotics: delete cd/dvd repository from /etc/apt/sources.list
[17:29] <raven_> how to set image size in MOTION?
[17:29] <zero2XIII> chunkyhead: meh... :/... you still the same error :(
[17:30] <chunkyhead> zero2XIII, no, it has reduced.
[17:30] <nimbiotics> odziom91: do i just delete that sources.list file?
[17:30] <Dustin> reisio: is there a way to search for all "backup" files that have been created? I would like to remove them, if they're ones I've previously edited and know are safe.
[17:30] <chunkyhead> zero2XIII, help me understand what's wrong, maybe i can help
[17:30] <Dustin> a wildcard to find all with the extension~
[17:31] <zero2XIII> chunkyhead: dpkg is not finding the package name in its database to select it for installation. However apt-get finds it, so it does exist.
[17:31] <odziom91> nimbiotics: don't delete file - just open it (on root) in text editor and delete or comment line
[17:32] <chunkyhead> let me get this correct, doesn't dpkg only install packs whose deb is pre-downloaded? like apt-get downloads packs and dpkg installs em right? zero2XIII
[17:32] <odziom91> nimbiotics: with cd/dvd repository ofc
[17:32] <nimbiotics> odziom91: thx
[17:32] <chunkyhead> im not a professional linux guy, but that's what i know, you might know more zero2XIII
[17:32] <chunkyhead> im a newbie as a matter of fact :P zero2XIII
[17:33] <zero2XIII> chunkyhead: not specifically, that is one functionally though, but not the ONLY one...
[17:33] <odziom91> nimbiotics: ah... and then in terminal write: sudo apt-get update  and press enter ;)
[17:33] <zero2XIII> chunkyhead: try the synaptic approach, otherwise I will just make a script real quick
[17:33] <chunkyhead> zero2XIII, so here when we say dpkg --set-selections, shouldn't we already have the packs already downloaded int he same directory?
[17:34] <nimbiotics> odziom91: didnt do the apt-get update but seems to be working nonetheless. THX!!
[17:34] <chunkyhead> how will you make the script? zero2XIII
[17:34] <zero2XIII> chunkyhead: not as far as I have read online... simple SED real quick to format the file into a LONG apt-get request
[17:35] <chunkyhead> SED zero2XIII ?
[17:35] <zero2XIII> chunkyhead: so please pastebin the file you are piping to dpkg
[17:35] <chunkyhead> zero2XIII, that even i can do. wouldn't want you to go thru so much trouble!
[17:35] <zero2XIII> chunkyhead: sed is a terminal application that manipulates strings of text based on certain criteria
[17:36] <chunkyhead> zero2XIII, let me try it out then, packname is sed right?
[17:36] <zero2XIII> chunkyhead: it wont take me even 5 minutes, but you are welcome to do it yourself if you wish
[17:36] <chunkyhead> wanna learn! zero2XIII
[17:36] <zero2XIII> chunkyhead: no need to install it
[17:36] <zero2XIII> chunkyhead: oka hold on
[17:36] <chunkyhead> yeah noticed zero2XIII
[17:36] <chunkyhead> i loved your signature "switched from xp to 9.04 havent' looked back ever since" haha!
[17:36] <chunkyhead> zero2XIII, ^
[17:37] <nimbiotics> Is there an IRC channel for wine??
[17:37] <zero2XIII> chunkyhead: hahahaha yea, that was WAAAAY back when.. hahaha.. Still true today :)
[17:37] <A1Recon> Orbitron for Linux??
[17:37] <IdleOne> nimbiotics: #winehq
[17:38] <bobrun> Hi. I've been using lighttpd from the package manager, and now I'd like to use a 3rd party plugin (https://github.com/nori0428/mod_websocket) that requires building lighttpd from source. How can I do that?
[17:38] <nimbiotics> odziom91: installation finished, hope it worked out
[17:38] <nimbiotics> odziom91: installation finished, hope it worked out, THX again!
[17:38] <nimbiotics> IdleOne: Thanks a lot
[17:39] <Turaylon> finally,  all works *_*
[17:39] <Turaylon> thx all for all help :)
[17:40] <Turaylon> there is a good terminal like a windows that scroll from top?
[17:41] <Friberg> compiz dies when i try to logon. says something about segfaulting, error in libcomposite.so.
[17:45] <Yonderfork> Hey, so I'm trying to connect my computer to my
[17:46] <daftykins> ...
[17:46] <Yonderfork> TV via s-video.
[17:46] <Yonderfork> (Sorry)
[17:46] <daftykins> oh that again :( what graphics card?
[17:46] <Yonderfork> I'll check.
[17:47] <daftykins> also which ubuntu and which graphics driver?
[17:47] <daftykins> and what century is this :( S-Video is really, really bad
[17:49] <anom> Upgraded Ubuntu. Lost all my sql db's. :(
[17:49] <anom> Not a happy bunny
[17:49] <reisio> anom: what makes you think they're gone?
[17:50] <anom> Cannot find them.
[17:50] <Yonderfork> It says "Unknown".
[17:50] <reisio> anom: how're you looking for them?
[17:51] <bobrun> was it just the dbs, anom?
[17:52] <anom> I think so. PHPMyAdmin is gone too.
[17:52] <Yonderfork> Also, this is a really old computer, so it doesn't have HDMI or anything.
[17:52] <Yonderfork> I'm running Ubuntu 12.04.
[17:52] <jrib> anom: you should have backups, but I don't see how that can happen anyway.  Are you sure?
[17:53] <daftykins> Yonderfork: are you that one that built a gaming PC with all your money whilst at College, so want to have some old laptop output onto an old school TV?
[17:53] <reisio> he's clearly not sure :)
[17:53] <Yonderfork> ...No.
[17:53] <daftykins> Yonderfork: just checking. very similar circumstance with another user recently. so what ubuntu did you put on? what's the computer?
[17:54] <excelsiora>  A error occurred during the signature verification. The repository is not updated and the previous index files will be used.
[17:54] <excelsiora> any suggestions?
[17:54] <daftykins> excelsiora: which PPA did that error go against?
[17:55] <excelsiora> I don't know
[17:55] <daftykins> excelsiora: ok in a terminal run "sudo apt-get update | pastebinit"
[17:56] <Yonderfork> 12.04, and it's an old E-Machines computer. I don't really know much beyond that.
[17:57] <excelsiora> daftykins: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5793234/
[17:57] <excelsiora> that's a cool pipe
[17:57] <daftykins> excelsiora: oh ok it's not got an issue with one of those, was it a GUI updater throwing the error?
[17:58] <excelsiora> no
[17:58] <excelsiora> Just me and my terminal, I think
[17:58] <excelsiora> GUI is a little flakey
[17:59] <daftykins> excelsiora: i wonder if this is relevant: http://askubuntu.com/questions/80680/cannot-update-system-error-during-signature-verification
[18:01] <excelsiora> daftykins: I'll try it
[18:02] <wad> Hi guys. I'm poking at a box I set up and configured a while back. It's an internet gateway machine. I think I disabled the "networking", and set it up manually, but I don't recall for sure. How could I tell?
[18:02] <daftykins> wad: so it'd have static addressing, or be stand-alone?
[18:03] <wad> It uses DHCP to get an IP from the ISP on the WAN, and runs DHCP on the LAN side.
[18:03] <bekks> wad: cat /etc/network/interfaces - do you see configured IP addresses in there?
[18:03] <bobrun> I've installed lighttpd from the package manager and now I'd like to add a plugin that requires being baked into lighttpd's source. I'd like to keep the way the package manager set up the environment, though. How might i attempt that?
[18:03] <wad> dynamic on eth0 (WAN), static on eth1 (LAN)
[18:03] <wad> The "networking" service is somewhat of a mystery to me.
[18:04] <excelsiora> daftykins: thanks, I think that worked
[18:04] <excelsiora> ls
[18:05] <daftykins> excelsiora: cool
[18:06] <wad> Ugh, this machine has both /etc/dhcp and /etc/dhcp3
[18:06] <excelsiora> daftykins: here's the instructions I followed: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-extras-keyring/+bug/893743/comments/7
[18:06] <wad> Seems like I used to use dhcp3, but "ps -ef | grep dhcp" shows it's using dhcp not dhcp3. Which would I be using?
[18:06] <wad> There are dhcpd.conf files in both /etc directories.
[18:07] <bekks> wad: Check which is installed.
[18:07] <excelsiora> daftykins: now can you help me troubleshoot my wifi UI ?
[18:07] <wad> bekks, like with dpkg -L ?
[18:07] <bekks> wad: Like using dpkg -l e.g.
[18:08] <wad> Looks like just dhcp is installed.
[18:08] <daftykins> excelsiora: what exactly is happening?
[18:08] <excelsiora> I suspend to ram frequently, and when I bring it back up, wifi interface is buggy and I can't even figure out a workaround to connect to a new wifi
[18:08] <wad> I guess I can get rid of /etc/dhcp3 then...
[18:08] <excelsiora> without rebooting, that is.
[18:08] <excelsiora> I'm hoping my update fixes it.
[18:08] <wad> excelsiora, because of that issue, specifically, I never suspect to RAM. I just power down the laptop every time.
[18:08] <wad> s/suspect/suspend/
[18:08] <daftykins> excelsiora: yeah if you're not 100% fully upgraded it'd be hard to comment
[18:08] <Yonderfork> Bye.
[18:09] <excelsiora> ok
[18:09] <excelsiora> Well I think I am no
[18:09] <excelsiora> w
[18:09] <daftykins> excelsiora: run 'sudo apt-get dist-upgrade' to be sure
[18:09] <excelsiora> I guess I should reboot and then play with it and report my experience
[18:10] <excelsiora> daftykins: Maybe I'm dumb, but I went ahead and did it without thinking about it.  Looks like some things changed in an update or something. How do I bounce dhcp now? There's no "service" for it, that I can tell... what is this "isc-dhcp-server" thing?
[18:11] <wilee-nilee> suspend does not use ram to save sleep does
[18:11] <bekks> excelsiora: It upgrades your distro to the latest version.
[18:11] <bekks> wad: Thats your DHCP server.
[18:11] <vee_> hey, every time i run skype, i get this error skype: error while loading shared libraries: libGL.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory. i read about installing the i386 version of things, and i did, but i still get that error
[18:11] <excelsiora> I thought I was working with the latest version
[18:11] <excelsiora> but it's downloading stuff
[18:11] <daftykins> excelsiora: get the latest versions of every package
[18:12] <daftykins> *gets
[18:12] <wad> bekks, okay, I'll use that then. Thanks.
[18:12] <excelsiora> Maybe because I did the instructions I linked to
[18:13] <excelsiora> essentially I moved the old apt list
[18:13] <excelsiora> so maybe it has to redownload everything?
[18:14] <excelsiora> Seems to be moving pretty quickly
[18:15] <bobrun> How can I find information about how packages are installed?
[18:15] <sw> vee_: Does libGL.so.1 exist in /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/mesa/?
[18:16] <sw> bobrun: What do you mean by that?
[18:16] <bobrun> Most browsers support at least some sort of websocket. http://test.mosquitto.org/sys/
[18:16] <bobrun> sorry, wrong channel
[18:17] <excelsiora> sweet, daftykins looks done
[18:17] <excelsiora> thanks
[18:17] <Tking> hi pls i need help am on mobile, i boot ubuntu on text mode, when i hit alt+f7 to go to gui i get a black screen and blinking cursor
[18:17] <excelsiora> ok, now what?
[18:17] <bobrun> sw: I'd like to see where a particular package from the package manager puts its files
[18:17] <excelsiora> reboot?
[18:17] <excelsiora> restartx?
[18:18] <wilee-nilee> Tking, If you boot in text does it reach the login or just a tty?
[18:18] <daftykins> excelsiora: you'll want to restart yes, especially if there was a new kernel
[18:19] <excelsiora> ok, stand by for restart
[18:19] <excelsiora> :) I'll update you guys when I'm done
[18:19] <Tking> wilee-nilee i get to login
[18:20] <wilee-nilee> Tking, What happens if you just login, I'm trying to understand you description, there is missing info.
[18:20] <wilee-nilee> your*
[18:21] <Tking> wilee-nilee, when i login, i see blank screen as normal i can view directory etc. but cant go back to gui
[18:22] <wilee-nilee> Tking, Is your definition of login in text still a tty or the login gui?
[18:22] <Tking> tty
[18:23] <wilee-nilee> Tking, Ah, try sudo stop lightdm then sudo start lightdm  at that tty.  Has it ever booted to the gui and if so what has led you hear, possibly a graphic driver install?
[18:24] <wilee-nilee> booted to the regular desktop not gui actually
[18:24] <bobrun> So, with a package from a PPA, is there a way to see its Makefile?
[18:25] <syntroPi> Tking, maybe you want to look at "dmesg" aswell as "cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log"
[18:25] <wilee-nilee> bobrun, PPA's install debs like the regular repo generally.
[18:26] <wilee-nilee> bobrun, You might include your goals here.
[18:27] <bobrun> wilee-nilee I'd like to see how the lighttpd package is configured, so as to replicate it when building from source.
[18:27] <excelsiora> hey hey! wifi UI seems to be working after suspending to ram
[18:27] <syntroPi> bobrun, yes on launchpad you can view its debian/  and "makefiles"
[18:28] <wilee-nilee> bobrun, Ah, cool, I have no idea there, it seems others do, good luck. ;)
[18:28] <kostkon_> bobrun: apt-get source package_name to download its source code. without sudo
[18:28] <bobrun> ah, neat.  thanks.
[18:29] <syntroPi> ^^ just what i was about to suggest
[18:29] <syntroPi> look in the debian dir
[18:29] <Tking> wilee-nilee, i am logged in tty, actually i chaged the boot to tr
[18:30] <LucidDreamZzZ> can i select windows in dash?
[18:30] <LucidDreamZzZ> if there are more than one for an icon
[18:30] <Tking> text mode. when i typed start lighdm it loaded gui but mouse didnt work
[18:30] <reisio> LucidDreamZzZ: maybe wmctrl could help
[18:31] <LucidDreamZzZ> is that windowmaker?
[18:31] <syntroPi> Tking, really take a look at "cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log" if there are any EE rors or WW arnings
[18:31] <lucas2196829> Hi! This is a tipically topic I have an old pc (512 mb RAM) and I want to ask if it's a good idea remove Unity in Ubuntu 12.04?
[18:32] <LucidDreamZzZ> the hover bubble shows other window when i click it
[18:32] <reisio> LucidDreamZzZ: there are some other DEs that would perform better, yes
[18:32] <LucidDreamZzZ> i like how i dont have to move mouse a lot and thats good
[18:33] <reisio> LucidDreamZzZ: oh
[18:33] <wilee-nilee> lucas2196829, Use another desktop lubuntu is your best choice probably you don't remove unity at all.
[18:33] <reisio> LucidDreamZzZ: the GUI thing in Unity is called dash, isn't it?
[18:33] <zykotick9> lucas2196829: with 512MB RAM, i'd strongly suggest lxde or xfce, or go really minimal with one of the the *box WM
[18:33] <reisio> I was thinking of the sh implementation
[18:33] <reisio> ...I wish people didn't suck at naming things
[18:33] <lucas2196829> Yes, but I don't know if lxde or xfce works fine in this distribution.
[18:33] <wilee-nilee> lucas2196829, YOu can remove that whole ubuntu-desktop with a package list if you want another desktop though, there is a website with those lists if you need.
[18:33] <reisio> lucas2196829: why wouldn't it
[18:35] <LucidDreamZzZ> resio, i think so it doesnt seem bad just would like icon for each window if possible then it would be nice
[18:35] <reisio> sorry I don't know much about Unity
[18:36] <lucas2196829> I like Unity (Iknow I'm very strange) and I don't want to lose it. I'd like to konw if I can leave my Ubuntu more light.
[18:36] <wilee-nilee> lucas2196829, If you are running unity the others will run, you could download a straight xfce or lxde iso and check if neded
[18:37] <wilee-nilee> lucas2196829, Bump the ram to its max, not sure your processor speed is all.
[18:40] <lucas2196829> I'd like to remove any modules (like bluetooth, and others) before to remove Unity. Maybe it will go faster.
[18:40] <dylan__> Hello. When I import my own music (.mp3 files) to Jampal, not all of them go in the list. I'm not sure why this is, or if it can get fixed, but I really want to listen to all of my music and not just a few songs.
[18:41] <iceroot> what are processes inside [] in "top"? like [kthread], [kworker] and [flush-8:0]?
[18:42] <wilee-nilee> lucas2196829, Your goals are good, but the methods not really in a logical line.
[18:42] <zykotick9> iceroot: i don't notice square brackets in top or htop?
[18:43] <iceroot> zykotick9: ah i am sorry, please press "c" to see the process-details/calls
[18:44] <lucas2196829> wilee-nilee, Do you think it's better change the DE first?
[18:44] <zykotick9> iceroot: i see [] now, no idea...  good luck.
[18:45] <yeik> I am trying to install a deb package, and it keeps saying unsatisfiable: libxerces-c3.1 (>= 3.1.1-1+b1)
[18:47] <reisio> yeik: and... you're expecting it to say something different one time?
[18:47] <yeik> i have libxerces installed. I am trying to figure out what it is expecting so i can install that
[18:47] <wilee-nilee> lucas2196829, Before what, and what desktop do you want? Unity is a plugin in compiz on top of gnome 3 it is the ubuntu desktop, you can't just remove or replace it with say metacity and have that desktop.
[18:47] <reisio> yeik: what version do you have installed?
[18:48] <wilee-nilee> lucas2196829, I would always have a secondary desktop before removing another though, if  understand you here.
[18:49] <yeik> libxerces-c3.1:i386 3.1.1-1build1
[18:49] <wilee-nilee> I*
[18:49] <yeik> maybe it is the wrong version. I might need to uninstall and install the x86 version
[18:49] <bekks> yeik: Why do you think it asks for the i386 version?
[18:50] <bekks> yeik: The error message does not state that.
[18:50] <yeik> i didn't
[18:50] <yeik> that is the version that is installed
[18:51] <bekks> yeik: Which ubuntu do you have, and do you run it in 32bit or 64bit?
[18:51] <wilee-nilee> lucas2196829, On this website in the playing around left column are links to removing whole desktops, be sure you use one that is your release. This link may help you get to a better understanding. http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/
[18:51] <yeik> Linux ********** 3.2.0-48-generic #74-Ubuntu SMP Thu Jun 6 19:43:26 UTC 2013 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[18:52] <dylan__> Hello. When I import my own music (.mp3 files) to Jampal, not all of them go in the list. I'm not sure why this is, or if it can get fixed, but I really want to listen to all of my music and not just a few songs.
[18:52] <lucas2196829> Well I guess that the first thing is download another DE. I had lxde with archlinux y Debian7. I'll begin here. You were very kind wilee-nilee. Thanks, I'm going to visit that site. See you soon
[18:52] <bekks> yeik: And the answer to my firsdt question? :)
[18:53] <wilee-nilee> lucas2196829, Good luck, ;)
[18:53] <yeik> bekks, what question is that?
[18:54] <bekks> yeik: Which ubuntu do you use?
[18:54] <yeik> Xubuntu
[18:54] <bekks> yeik: xubuntu is not a version number.
[18:54] <juo100> I'm trying to mount my ext4 formatted USB HD but when i do i get the following error message "wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sda1"
[18:55] <juo100> but i just formatted it with "sudo mkfs.ext4 /dev/sda1 -L drive"
[18:55] <daftykins> juo100: what does dmesg say?
[18:55] <bekks> juo100: Then either the superblock is corrupted or it isnt an ext4 fs.
[18:56] <juo100> how do i format the drive for ext4?
[18:56] <juo100> 'sudo mkfs.ext4 /dev/sda1 -L drive' ?
[18:56] <daftykins> i must be invisible again
[18:56] <yeik> bekks, i cant remember what version i last upgraded to. it is recent. why does the version matter?
[18:56] <juo100> sorry daftykins, whats dmesg?
[18:57] <juo100> ah 1 sec
[18:57] <juo100> ill paste it
[18:57] <daftykins> just see if it's explaining the errors
[18:57] <juo100> '[  993.972473] EXT4-fs (sda1): Unrecognized mount option "uid=1000" or missing value'
[18:57] <juo100> but I'm trying to mount it with
[18:57] <bekks> yeik: Please pastebin "lsb_release -a"
[18:57] <juo100> sudo mount -t ext4 -o uid=1000,gid=1000 /dev/sda1 /media/external/
[18:57] <kostkon_> 3.2 kernel so maybe 12.04?
[18:57] <daftykins> juo100: drop the uid and gid and try again
[18:58] <juo100> daftykins: thanks :D
[18:58] <yeik> ubuntu 12.04 - precise
[18:58] <juo100> i tried to remove it before but forgot to remove the -o argument ^^
[19:01] <yeik> i removed the i386 version and installed the regular version of libxerces
[19:02] <daftykins> juo100: all working fine now is it?
[19:03] <yeik> I also downloaded the source of the package, looked at the documentation, installed the noted dependencies and the makefile didn't create the version.h so it says that version.h is missing.
[19:08] <prahlad> Just installed ubuntu 13.04, have an issue with network-manager (nm-applet crashes). Can anyone help ?
[19:08] <juo100> daftykins: yeah, my only issue now, adding it into /etc/fstab with "/dev/sdb1       /media/external ext4    defaults       0       0" didn't seam to survive the reboot
[19:09] <juo100> is there another file i can look at to debug that?
[19:09] <bekks> juo100: Do not mount things to /media manually. /media is used by the automounting facility. Use /mnt/ for manual mounting.
[19:09] <prahlad> I think when we have so many guis floating about, can't we have one for auto-mounting a disk-partition too ?
[19:09] <jordan4ibanez> Where is the xorg.conf?
[19:10] <prahlad> why do we have to edit /etc/fstab for a trivial thing like that?
[19:10] <daftykins> jordan4ibanez: /etc/X11/
[19:10] <juo100> ok, I will try it out with /mnt/
[19:10] <jordan4ibanez> I don't have one in there, I am running nvidia proprietary 313
[19:10] <bekks> prahlad: Feel free to contribute and code one.
[19:10] <daftykins> jordan4ibanez: it's automatic at boot time then. are you wanting to change a setting?
[19:10] <jordan4ibanez> Yes, enable coolbits
[19:11] <prahlad> bekks: I'm learning python programming with pygtk. will surely contribute to this once I master that.. :-)
[19:11] <daftykins> jordan4ibanez: haha wow i don't even know if that's still alive. sure it can't be done by running nvidia-settings with a switch or something these days? also graphics card overclocking is immensely fruitless
[19:12] <jordan4ibanez> It is. And it's not. I just need to know where xorg.conf is. Or if it's generated under another name?
[19:13] <daftykins> jordan4ibanez: like i said things happen auto at boot, so a file isn't needed. you'd have to generate a basic one if you want to add something
[19:14] <juo100> Ok! All working, thanks ever so much for all the help. Even learnt something :)
[19:14] <prahlad> Running ubuntu 13.04-amd64, have an issue with network-manager (nm-applet crashes). Can anyone help ?
[19:14] <NullVoxPopuli> Is there an easy way to migrate my home folder to an HDD from an SSD? I'd also want to encrypt my home folder. :-\
[19:14] <gms_> hi all
[19:15] <gms_> I have a question about case statement in bash
[19:15] <wilee-nilee> !details > prahlad
[19:15] <wilee-nilee> gms_, THe channel works with you stating the problem. ;)
[19:15] <gms_> can someone help me ??
[19:16] <bekks> gms_: How can we know?
[19:16] <gms_> nobody =
[19:16] <daftykins> gms_: ask the question
[19:16] <gms_> ?
[19:16] <yeik> gms_ try posting your question with an example in pastebin and post the link
[19:16] <wilee-nilee> !help > gms_
[19:16] <gms_> ok
[19:16] <gms_> in the case statement
[19:17] <prahlad> I have a problem with network-manager (nm-applet). I'm running ubuntu version 13.04  (amd64) on my toshiba laptop.
[19:17] <gms_> a=$(date +%k)
[19:17] <gms_> ubottu: how can I send private message
[19:17] <gms_> oh damn
[19:17] <gms_> okay,
[19:17] <bekks> gms_: Dont use enter as a punctuation sign, and write full sentences please :)
[19:17] <prahlad> when I connect my Mobile-Broadband connection, for the first time, the display name changes from "Provider XYZ.." to "(CDMA)"
[19:18] <bekks> prahlad: How is that related Ubuntu? :)
[19:18]  * wilee-nilee is so thankful for the ignore
[19:18] <gms_> a=$(date +%k)    , the case statement doesn't accept a number as a pattern
[19:18] <gms_> a=$(date +%k) echo $a  case $a in  8) echo $a  esac
[19:18] <prahlad> because it has only started since I upgraded from 12.04 to 13.04
[19:18] <bekks> gms_: A shell doesnt know different data types, it interprets everything as a string.
[19:18] <prahlad> in 12.04, it was working fine...
[19:18] <gms_> hmm
[19:19] <bekks> prahlad: And how is that imposing problems? I dont even care what my mobile displays when using it as an AP :)
[19:19] <gms_> I see that, but in this case >> a=$(date +%k)  doesn't it mean that I assign a number to a ?
[19:19] <gms_> so in the pattern, it should accept the number
[19:19] <bekks> gms_: No. Since a shell only uses strings.
[19:20] <gms_> I'm sorry. It's not so clear to me. What can I do in this case ?
[19:20] <prahlad> The trouble is that when I disconnect and reconnect for the second time, network-manager crashes and the "bars-icon" on the top vanishes!!
[19:20] <bekks> gms_: Use "8") instead of 8)
[19:21] <prahlad> I have to restart the nm-applet by doing alt+f2 to bring that icon again..
[19:21] <wilee-nilee> prahlad, You running the ubuntu-shell?
[19:21] <gms_> bekks: that didn't work out
[19:22] <prahlad> yep, the unity desktop if thats what you mean..
[19:22] <gms_> #!/bin/bash  a=$(date +%k)   case $a in  "8") echo $a  esac
[19:22] <wilee-nilee> prahlad, No the shell is not unity
[19:22] <bekks> gms_: Use a pastebin please.
[19:22] <prahlad> you mean the command line that comes by doing ctl+alt+f1, etc.. ?
[19:22] <gms_> bekks: I'm a newbie, how can I use that?
[19:23] <bekks> !paste | gms_
[19:23] <wilee-nilee> the ubuntu-shell has a de reload of alt-f2-r
[19:23] <Alternate> hi
[19:23] <gms_> bekks: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5793477/
[19:24] <Alternate> my first day running ubuntu 13.04
[19:24] <Alternate> love it
[19:24] <bekks> gms_: You are missing ;; in the case statement
[19:24] <wilee-nilee> Alternate, As a heads up this is support not chat, do you need support?
[19:25] <Alternate> yeah i need support
[19:25] <prahlad> I'm happy with the alt+f2 workaround. I just want to know if this is a well-known ubuntu bug with amd64s ? or is it just me facing this issue?
[19:25] <reisio> Alternate: what'd you use before Ubuntu 13.04?
[19:25] <wilee-nilee> Alternate, Cool, give us a description. ;)
[19:25] <gms_> bekks: I don't get it, I've changed that, still doesn't work
[19:25] <Alternate> I have been using mac osx
[19:25] <Alternate> I have an msi laptop, with a gtx 570m , how would i install the driver?
[19:25] <bekks> gms_: You've changed what?
[19:25] <reisio> prahlad: what happens, again?
[19:26] <bekks> Alternate: This is ubuntu support, not Mac OSX support.
[19:26] <prahlad> When I reconnect a mobile-broadband connection for the second time, network-manager crashes and the "bars-icon" on the top vanishes!!
[19:26] <Alternate> like I said i am using ubuntu
[19:26] <reisio> Alternate: is there not a circuit board icon at the top right?
[19:26] <prahlad> it only happens for mobile-broadbands..
[19:26] <gms_> bekks: I've added ;;
[19:27] <Alternate> well everything works perfect, I just want to install the driver so I can use vsync etc
[19:27] <bekks> gms_: To where? Do you expect us to guess it?
[19:27] <yakster> anyone here use autofs?
[19:27] <wilee-nilee> !ask > yakster
[19:28] <gms_> bekks:  I've managed!
[19:28] <gms_> bekks: thanks
[19:28] <prahlad> reisso: When I reconnect a mobile-broadband connection for the second time, network-manager crashes and the "bars-icon" on the top vanishes!!
[19:29] <reisio> Alternate: is there not a circuit board icon at the top right?
[19:29] <Alternate> No there is not
[19:29] <reisio> Alternate: could read this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[19:29] <Alternate> Thanks
[19:29] <yakster> with the use of autofs, are there any additional requirements for automounting NAS fs shares….
[19:30] <reisio> Alternate: if you open a terminal and run sudo lspci -k | grep -i vga -A 3, what does it say is 'in use'?
[19:30] <yakster> I followed this link, http://bernaerts.dyndns.org/linux/56-ubuntu-autofs
[19:31] <gms_> bekks: that's weird. when the time is 21:30 and the pattern is "21") it works. However, when I change the time to a one digit number, let's say 06, neither 06 nor 6 doesn't work as the case pattern ?
[19:31] <quis23> someone knows a good terminal irc client?
[19:32] <James_Epp> In 12.04.2, how do I increase the amount of workspaces?
[19:32] <bekks> quis23: irssi
[19:32] <sam113101> quis23: weechat
[19:32] <quis23> thanks guys i look it up :)
[19:33] <Easy> can anyone recommend an app to transfer android files to a ubuntu computer please.
[19:33] <yakster> can you ssh?
[19:33] <ferw2342> !nounity
[19:33] <James_Epp> Easy: I thought android devices automatically mounted? At least....they did for me.
[19:34] <xangua> Easy: airdroid
[19:34] <fyksen> Easy: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.sand.airdroid super easy
[19:34] <fyksen> James_Epp: on some do, and some don't.
[19:35] <prahlad> Easy: if you have a usb cable, you can use the "adb" commands that come with  android sdk
[19:35] <reisio> Easy: andftp
[19:35] <prahlad> adb push and adb pull commands are used to transfer a file to/from an android phone
[19:35] <Easy> no not on my computer, shotwell is crap doesn't import photo, also can't upload video
[19:35] <reisio> Easy: also if your computer has bluetooth, you can use bluetooth
[19:36] <reisio> andftp supports scp/sftp (transfer over ssh), so you just need sshd running
[19:36] <Alternate> Hey guys, when I try to install ubuntu on my hp probook 6570b the screen starts flickering and it's seperated in 2 pieces
[19:36] <Easy> didn't think about bluetooth, i'll give it a try. thanks
[19:37] <prahlad> Easy: If you are on wifi, then airdroid is the only option...
[19:37] <wilee-nilee> +1 on airdroid
[19:37] <reisio> !nomodeset
[19:37] <Easy> i 'll give airdroid a try too. thanks
[19:38] <reisio> bluetooth is the easiest _if_ it 'just works' :p
[19:38] <reisio> 'cause you just hit the share icon
[19:38] <Easy> ok thanks
[19:39] <gms_> Is it possible to assign a value to a variable inside the case statement? When I try , I get the error " Command not found"
[19:39] <prahlad> I've found that the LTS version is, in general, more stable and less buggy than the 12.10 & 13.04..
[19:40] <prahlad> things just work on the LTS..
[19:40] <MonkeyDust> prahlad  great!
[19:40] <contrapunctus> prahlad - No kidding.
[19:40] <tux30> hi i have setup a pc for a friend but when i plug a this home he have another monitor ans get error starting how can force for recognize the new monitor?
[19:40] <elisa87> Hey, why do you think I have this result? http://paste.ubuntu.com/5793516/
[19:41] <MonkeyDust> elisa87  why is gnome2 in that error mesage?
[19:41] <elisa87> how can " Errors were encountered while processing: dbus" be solved?
[19:42] <elisa87> MonkeyDust: how can I check that?
[19:42] <MonkeyDust> elisa87  start from the beginning, what are you doing?
[19:42] <elisa87> MonkeyDust: I wanted to install meld by sudo apt-get install meld
[19:43] <wilee-nilee> tux30, Can you explain that more clearly, it seems you can not get the second monitor recognized, but t is not real clear.
[19:43] <wilee-nilee> it*
[19:43] <MonkeyDust> elisa87  in what ubuntu version?
[19:44] <elisa87> 3.8.0-25-generic Ubuntu 13.04 MonkeyDust
[19:44] <zztr> should i be able to boot from a live cd with no drives in my computer?
[19:45] <zztr> I can't. But something is wrong and I don't know what.
[19:45] <tux30> hi i have setup a pc for a friend but when i plug a this home he have another monitor ans get error starting how can force for recognize the new monitor?
[19:45] <]silent[> asd
[19:45] <elisa87> MonkeyDust: when I do sudp apt-get upgrade I receive: "Errors were encountered while processing:  /var/cache/apt/archives/cups-browsed_1.0.34-0ubuntu1.1_amd64.deb"
[19:45] <MonkeyDust> elisa87  "gnome2" is repeatedly mentioned in that error message, is it a clean install?
[19:46] <reisio> !nomodeset
[19:46] <reisio> Alternate: ^
[19:46] <wilee-nilee> tux30, What does this mean "when i plug a this home"
[19:46] <elisa87> yeah I installed from scratch.what's wrong MonkeyDust
[19:46] <MonkeyDust> elisa87  type sudo apt-get update|pastebinit and paste the url here, i think you are mixing repos
[19:47] <tux30> the monitor flash a lot of time and computer reboot
[19:47] <wilee-nilee> tux30, what is your native language?
[19:47] <daftykins> tux30: what graphics card? have you installed drivers?
[19:48] <tux30> french
[19:48] <]silent[> hi to all
[19:48] <elisa87> MonkeyDust: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5793543/ here's the update result
[19:49] <tux30> and not graphic driver
[19:49] <MonkeyDust> elisa87  that's a mix of i386 and amd64 repos, maybe that's the cause of the errors
[19:49] <luca__> hi to all.
[19:50] <MonkeyDust> elisa87  and get rid of that dl.google.com source
[19:50] <elisa87> how can I get rid of them monkeydus
[19:50] <elisa87> how can I get rid of them monkeydust?
[19:50] <MonkeyDust> elisa87  system settings, software sources
[19:51] <gms_> is it possible to have to digit results in additions on bash? 01+2 = 03 for example...
[19:51] <elisa87> I mean how to remove i386 stuff?
[19:51] <gms_> two digit  sorry.
[19:51] <syntroPi> using ffmpeg to compile a mp4 from an mkv with subtitles i am having the problem that it says "Unknown encoder 'mov_text'". Version is ffmpeg version 0.8.6-6:0.8.6-1ubuntu2     is this too old somehow?
[19:51] <wilee-nilee> tux30, Cool there is a ubuntu french channel if that helps.
[19:51] <checkin> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2150307
[19:51] <wilee-nilee> !fr
[19:52] <MonkeyDust> elisa87  just told you, system settings, software sources
[19:52] <elisa87> what should I do in system setting? MonkeyDust
[19:53] <MonkeyDust> elisa87  disable the unwanted sources
[19:53] <yakster> can anyone help me out with getting autofs to work, of know if there is an alternative to it?
[19:53] <checkin> I am unable to toggle wireless on/off, mute/unmute, play/pause using Front operation panel LED keys on my Toshiba Qosmio F60. Currently I need to enable WiFi/Bluetooth from Windows for it to work. Fn+F8 toggle works as soft block/unblock only if I have already enabled WiFi under Windows. Any ideas as how this can be done? I have tried Ubuntu 13.04 as well. The only LED Touch button that works under Ubuntu is the Volume Up/Down butto
[19:54] <MonkeyDust> yakster  is this useful https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Autofs
[19:54] <checkin> dmesg http://paste.ubuntu.com/5659327/ dmidecode http://paste.ubuntu.com/5659339/ output when wireless disabled from within windows http://paste.ubuntu.com/5659346/ output when wireless enabled from within windows http://paste.ubuntu.com/5659348/
[19:55] <yakster> auto.master http://paste.ubuntu.com/5793556/
[19:56] <yakster> auto.server http://paste.ubuntu.com/5793557/
[19:56] <yakster> then obviously an auto.auth
[19:56] <sudeep> hi
[19:56] <hadifarnoud> what does this mean? Jun 23 12:54:42 spoons postfix/error:  405221C8ED<EMAIL_ADDRESS>relay=none, delay=0, delays=0/0/0/0, dsn=4.0.0, status=deferred (delivery temporarily suspended: host mx5.mail.yahoo.co.jp[<IP_ADDRESS>] refused to talk to me: 553 Mail from <IP_ADDRESS> not allowed - [10])
[19:56] <hadifarnoud> I get flooded by these logs
[19:57] <daftykins> hadifarnoud: that you're not allowed to email yahoo users, at a guess :)
[19:57] <checkin> @MonkeyDust any idea??
[19:57] <sudeep> is any one installed/using  emerald theme manager ??
[19:58] <MonkeyDust> checkin  what?
[19:58] <luca__> Emerald theme manager is dead...
[19:58] <hadifarnoud> daftykins: why is that though? am I sending bulk email? because I'm not. might be a victim of spam?
[19:58] <checkin> i can't seem to enable my touch keys from within Ubuntu..
[19:58] <sudeep> luca__: why !! it was a cool theme manager right ?
[19:58] <daftykins> hadifarnoud: maybe they deny anyone without SPF config
[19:58] <MonkeyDust> luca__  i guess emerald is no longer developed or maintained
[19:58] <th0r> hadifarnoud, you may not be, but someone in that ip range is. They don't block one ip...they block a range
[19:59] <luca__> yes... emerald is cool... but is not developed...
[19:59] <luca__> anyomore
[19:59] <hadifarnoud> I get this for gmail too: BCFDA1C78D<EMAIL_ADDRESS><EMAIL_ADDRESS>relay=alt4.gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com[<IP_ADDRESS>]:25, delay=1160, delays=1159/0.01/0.88/0, dsn=4.7.0, status=deferred (host alt4.gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com[<IP_ADDRESS>] refused to talk to me: 421-4.7.0 [<IP_ADDRESS>] Our system has detected an unusual amount of 421-4.7.0 unsolicited mail o
[19:59] <hadifarnoud> riginating from your IP address. To protect our 421-4.7.0 users from spam, mail sent from your IP address has been temporarily 421-4.7.0 blocked. Please visit http://www.google.com/mail/help/bulk_mail.html 421 4.7.0 to review our Bulk Email Senders Guidelines. q8si9645026icw.138 - gsmtp)
[19:59] <FloodBot1> hadifarnoud: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:59] <checkin> http://askubuntu.com/questions/291783/led-touch-buttons-touchpad-toggle-not-working-in-toshiba-qosmio-f60
[20:00] <sudeep> luca__: why anymore if any person want to maintain or contribute to that project  is it possible ?
[20:01] <ifara64> fara
[20:01] <luca__> sudeep: mmmh... i don't think is possible... because unity dosen't support Emerald.
[20:01] <MonkeyDust> methinks emerald was a gnome2 toy
[20:02] <sudeep> but this proves unity can http://www.webupd8.org/2013/05/how-to-install-emerald-in-ubuntu-1304.html
[20:02] <Zagomah> sudeep: so install it! :)
[20:02] <daftykins> hadifarnoud: so you're not operating as an open relay, to your knowledge?
[20:03] <hadifarnoud> daftykins: no.
[20:03] <checkin> any alternatives to hal..?
[20:03] <Zagomah> sudeep: Remember... emerald replace compiz, default windows decoration...
[20:03] <daftykins> hadifarnoud: well i suggest you contact the actual mail server support for what you're running
[20:03] <ifara64> unity soporta Esmeralda = Yes
[20:04] <hadifarnoud> daftykins: I have a VPS. so I am the support sadly
[20:04] <yakster> … so yeah… I cant get autofs to work….
[20:04] <sudeep> Zagomah: so unity uses compiz to decoration right ?
[20:04] <hadifarnoud> daftykins: I installed virtualmin to use it as web server
[20:04] <daftykins> hadifarnoud: sure but you're running a mail server program right?
[20:04] <daftykins> hadifarnoud: it's very masochistic to run your own mail server tbh
[20:04] <hadifarnoud> daftykins: I do have mail server but not in use really
[20:04] <wilee-nilee> sudeep, Unity is a plugin in compiz
[20:05] <MonkeyDust> sudeep  unity is a compiz plugin
[20:05] <MonkeyDust> wilee-nilee  was faster :)
[20:05] <wilee-nilee> jinx
[20:05] <sudeep> MonkeyDust: ok
[20:06] <ifara64> compiz is under unity
[20:07] <AdvoWork> Hi there, thinking of migrating my 2nd laptop to Ubuntu, only thing on there i want is itunes. It uses .mp4 files, which as far as I can see i can just copy, but what software can i use to play/manage these files, in 13.04?
[20:07] <MonkeyDust> AdvoWork  banshe
[20:07] <MonkeyDust> AdvoWork  banshee
[20:07] <hadifarnoud> banshee is great. not so great looking though AdvoWork
[20:08] <AdvoWork> ill give it a try, is there a move visual one? I dont mind it looking pretty as such, but the wife might prefer a nicer one
[20:09] <fyksen> Does anyone know if there is an bitcoin applet indicator for Ubuntu? To track the price of bitcoin.
[20:09] <MonkeyDust> AdvoWork  amarok, maybe
[20:10] <hadifarnoud> daftykins: is there a possibility that a script is sending spam from my server? if so, how can I find it?
[20:10] <trism> fyksen: https://github.com/jj9btcproj/Bitcoin-Price-Indicator apparently
[20:10] <daftykins> hadifarnoud: are you hosting other peoples websites or something?
[20:10] <bekks> hadifarnoud: Yes, there is. Tools like ps, rkhunter, lsof, nmap can help you to find it.
[20:11] <fyksen> trism: holy c***. I have googled for fifteen minutes, couldn't find anything. TY :)
[20:11] <hadifarnoud> daftykins: yes I am.
[20:11] <kostkon> fyksen, with a little bit of googling, i found this https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=194598.0
[20:11] <kostkon> oh trism was first ok :P
[20:11] <hadifarnoud> bekks: can you point me in right direction? they are very general tools. what should I do exactly
[20:12] <bekks> hadifarnoud: You should use them to see whats running, what looks suspicious, etc.
[20:12] <AdvoWork> MonkeyDust, will try that too.
[20:13] <MonkeyDust> !find bitcoin | fyksen
[20:13] <AdvoWork> Anyone else had any issues with 13.04? i click on ubuntu software installer and it loads, then just continually crashes on me, i have to install everything via terminal
[20:13] <fyksen> MonkeyDust: jupp, nothing in the repos for applet
[20:13] <MonkeyDust> fyksen  then i guess you're out of luck, does not exist
[20:14] <fyksen> MonkeyDust: haha, problem is that Ive been searching for applet, not indicators..
[20:16] <AdvoWork> MonkeyDust, amarok is fine, thanks for the tips
[20:18] <hadifarnoud> bekks: I couldn't find anything suspicious. might be a php script etc? how can I find them?
[20:21] <th0r> hadifarnoud, wow you worked for seven minutes and couldn't find anything?!
[20:21] <bekks> hadifarnoud: By investigating further whats actually running on your system.
[20:21] <hadifarnoud> th0r: I checked the running processes
[20:22] <yakster> does anyone have a valid "Mount on demand" process they can sugest… casue I think that autofs is broke…
[20:23] <darkangel> Hello people
[20:23] <darkangel> any 1 here?
[20:23] <daftykins> o hai
[20:23] <wilee-nilee> yakster, Mount what?
[20:23] <daftykins> nope
[20:23] <yakster> smb shares
[20:23] <JoshuaP> The BIND server isn't letting rdnc connect and start
[20:23] <JoshuaP> How do I fix this issue?
[20:24] <yakster> SMB from NAS HDD
[20:24] <darkangel> Is It Elegal To sell  Linux Products???
[20:24] <wilee-nilee> yakster, Ah, not sure here.
[20:24] <MonkeyDust> darkangel  ask in #ubuntu-offtopic
[20:24] <darkangel> Wheres that???
[20:25] <th0r> yakster, why not just put it in fstab?
[20:25] <wilee-nilee> darkangel, /j #ubuntu-offtopic
[20:25] <ofhs> can someone help me get my USB mic to work?
[20:25] <yakster> if I have it in FStab, the drive will never sleep…. killing hard drives…
[20:25] <ofhs> it's being really weird
[20:25] <yakster> or at least these GoFlex Home Hard drives
[20:25] <ofhs> i tried it in audacity and it recorded the first time, but when i tried again it wouldn't work
[20:26] <ofhs> and i can't get it to work in skype at all
[20:26] <yakster> smbclient //<IP_ADDRESS>/GoFlex\ Home\ Public -U xbmc  I can browse just fine….
[20:26] <th0r> yakster, actually, it is the spin-up and spin-down that wear on the drive, not the spinning
[20:27] <ofhs> anyone?
[20:27] <darkangel> Ubuntu-Offtobic chat room is dead
[20:27] <MonkeyDust> darkangel  you mistyped
[20:28] <zero2XIII> ofhs: go to your sound properties and select the correct device under "input"
[20:28] <k1l_> !ot | darkangel
[20:28] <ofhs> zero2XIII: it's the only device there is, but it doesn't work right
[20:28] <ofhs> zero2XIII: sometimes when i talk into it, it'll recognize it, but then when i try again it won't work
[20:29] <zero2XIII> ofhs: does it show level? in the sound settings under input level?
[20:30] <ofhs> zero2XIII: sometimes after i unplug it and plug it back in, but it's really unreliable and after i exit the sound settings and reopen it, it won't recognize it
[20:30] <ofhs> zero2XIII: for example, in audacity, i configured it to work with the mic, and i recorded once and it worked fine, but when i tried again it said it couldn't locate the mic, even though it was still configured the same way
[20:30] <Jezk> which release can I expect to have better graphical driver support, 13.04 or 12.04 LTS? More specifically, I'm talking about ATI catalyst video drivers and looking for longest battery life/least heating.
[20:31] <zero2XIII> ofhs: that might be more a mic issue I think than a real software issue. Try seeing if "dmesg" in terminal gives any clues, after pluging the mic out and back in, do it imediately
[20:32] <Zagomah_> anyone know how to install shell themes??
[20:32] <Zagomah_> this for example : http://gnome-look.org/content/show.php/Faience?content=154949
[20:32] <ofhs> zero2XIII: it works absolutely fine with any other computer though, just not with ubuntu
[20:33] <k1l_> Zagomah_: did you read what is written in your link after "installation"?
[20:34] <zero2XIII> ofhs: Oka, then something might be screwing around, plug the mic out, and then open a terminal, and plug it back in.. wait a few seconds and then run this in terminal: dmesg | tail -n25 and pastebin that so I can see please
[20:34] <Zagomah_> k1l_: yes but when i open Gnome tweak tools appears a message say the extension of the shell is disabled
[20:35] <wilee-nilee> Zagomah_, Not all of the gnome-shell exstensions will run in every gnome 3 relese.
[20:35] <ofhs> zero2XIII: http://pastebin.com/nht4ZBfT
[20:35] <wilee-nilee> release*
[20:35] <Zagomah_> wilee-nilee: How to know my Gnome version???
[20:36] <b4dave_4> hello ya all!! :)
[20:36] <MonkeyDust> Zagomah_  it's gnome3 since ubuntu 11.04 or so
[20:37] <zero2XIII> ofhs: it picks it up as a camera :?.. please run the following and put them together in a paste bin: "lsusb" and "lsmod"
[20:37] <Zagomah_> MonkeyDust: i have 13.04
[20:37] <ofhs> zero2XIII: it's a webcam/mic combo
[20:37] <MonkeyDust> Zagomah_  then it's gnome3
[20:37] <wilee-nilee> Zagomah_, I just look in synaptic, but there is probably a command, If you go to the extensions site and go thgrough them you can try and see what works and doesn't, there a lot of nice ones I use about 10-15 overall.
[20:38] <Zagomah_> Thx all for help <3
[20:38] <ofhs> zero2XIII: anyway, this is what that returns http://pastebin.com/fmRevJVS
[20:38] <zero2XIII> ofhs: well that changes it slightly, ubuntu has some issues with webcams, but lets see that pastebin first before I jump to conclusions
[20:39] <ofhs> zero2XIII: http://pastebin.com/fmRevJVS
[20:39] <zero2XIII> ofhs: yes I got it thanks :) going through it now, logitech what cam is it? The product number?
[20:40] <ofhs> zero2XIII: looking up the specific model, but it's a quickcam fusion
[20:40] <MonkeyDust> ofhs  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras
[20:40] <zero2XIII> MonkeyDust: ofhs: just about to paste that hahahah you beat me to it
[20:41] <ofhs> thanks, looking now
[20:41] <A1Recon> Does anyone know how i can get Orbitron for Ubuntu?
[20:42] <zero2XIII> ofhs: seems like it is not supported :/
[20:42] <Zagomah_> when i download extensions come a message say : You do not appear to have an up to date version of GNOME3. You won't be able to install extensions from here. See the about page for more information.
[20:42] <Zagomah_> on https://extensions.gnome.org/
[20:42] <ofhs> zero2XIII: it's not on the list, yeah, but why would it take input from it occasionally it it's completely incompatible?
[20:43] <jonascj> Hi all. I'm having trouble restoring my iptable rules after reboot. I'm using "post-up /sbin/iptables-restore < /path/to/rules-file" on my eth0. But I never see any rules restored when I reboot. I'm using fail2ban -could that be overriding my iptables rules? (ubuntu 12.04 server)
[20:43] <zero2XIII> ofhs: it might not be "completely" unsupported, but buggy...
[20:43] <Zagomah_> ok fixed lol
[20:44] <zero2XIII> ofhs: you can try some of the fixed recommended there and see, MAYBE something fixes your issue aswell
[20:44] <zero2XIII> ofhs: uvcvideo driver seems the most common fix..
[20:44] <ofhs> zero2XIII: if I just want to use the mic, is there any solution for that?
[20:45] <Walex> jonascj: no.
[20:46] <zero2XIII> ofhs: seeing as it is a combo, I THINK, it might use the same driver for both, basicly drivers for the camera, I might be wrong, but that is usualy the way it works. I do not see any drivers loaded for it in the output you gave me, is it working atm
[20:47] <jonascj> Walex: okay, thanks, then I'll be looking elsewhere
[20:47] <ofhs> zero2XIII: i looked at the UVC specific drivers list, and my model referred to footnotes 1 and 2 here http://www.ideasonboard.org/uvc/#footnote-1
[20:48] <zero2XIII> ofhs: funny i was just reading that, and the link is 404
[20:49] <wilee-nilee> A1Recon, http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=3073
[20:52] <ofhs> zero2XIII: so would installing the driver not help my situation at all?
[20:52] <zero2XIII> ofhs: it doesn't seem like it, however, give it a go. There is not much you can loose.
[20:53] <ofhs> zero2XIII: alright, yeah, i'll give it a shot. if nothing works, do you know of any cheap linux-compatible mics?
[20:54] <zero2XIII> ofhs: but unfortunately I need to run.. The instructions on installing the drivers from source seem straight forward, you can always ask someone here on help with that. But sorry I can not assist you further on this matter.
[20:54] <gordonjcp> ofhs: anything that says it doesn't need drivers
[20:54] <ofhs> okay, thanks
[20:54] <gordonjcp> ofhs: if it doesn't need anything special for Mac OSX, it should work okay in Linux
[20:54] <gordonjcp> ofhs: Samson did quite a good one
[20:54] <zero2XIII> ofhs: hmmm not really, if your mic input does not show up, unfortunately not
[20:55] <gordonjcp> ofhs: what are you trying to do, anyway?
[20:55] <zero2XIII> ofhs: yes any class compliant mic should work...
[20:55] <hearit> my voice up today for Nelson Mandela
[20:56] <ofhs> gordonjcp: get my USB mic working with ubuntu. audacity and skype recognize when i plug it in, and so does the sound settings thing, but it's being buggy
[20:56] <gordonjcp> ofhs: what kind is it?
[20:56] <ofhs> gordonjcp: for example, when i recorded with it in audacity to test it, it recognized the input, but when i tried again it couldn't find the mic
[20:56] <hadifarnoud> ok, ps -aux and lsof -p didn't help. how can I find the script sending spam emails on my server?
[20:56] <gordonjcp> audacity is crap
[20:56] <ofhs> gordonjcp: logitech quickcam fusion
[20:57] <ofhs> gordonjcp: it doesn't have anything to do with the crappiness of audacity though, the same happened with the sound options
[20:57] <gordonjcp> ofhs: so this is the microphone on your webcam?
[20:57] <gordonjcp> ofhs: does it actually show up as a separate audio device?
[20:58] <ofhs> gordonjcp: yeah, it's a combo thing. it shows up as a microphone input every time i plug it in, but it only works like every other time i select it to record with it. it's really unreliable.
[20:59] <ofhs> gordonjcp: when i talk into it, sometimes the sound options will recognize it, but when i exit it and open it again, it doesn't recognize any input, even though it still recognizes the device
[21:01] <HelloWorld321> On @reboot, crontab ran a bash script that does a an ftp script, and the log says "Not connected" for almost everything.  Is @reboot a particularly bad time to run an ftp script, because the network drivers haven't loaded, or something?  Is there a better ti,e (like @login)?  Or should I move it to an anacron job to run after login?
[21:01] <HelloWorld321> (ti,e = time)
[21:02] <gordonjcp> ofhs: look around for a different device
[21:02] <gordonjcp> ofhs: logitech cameras are pretty flaky at the best of times
[21:03] <ofhs> ofhs: it's the only input device the sound settings recognizes. i don't think it's a problem with the mic either, because it works perfectly on any windows computer.
[21:03] <ThePendulum> For some reason, Fingerprint-gui no longer detects my laptop's fingerprint reader
[21:03] <hadifarnoud> I have received an spam abuse notice from my hosting provider. I don't know how to find compromised user and responsible script. can someone help me?
[21:03] <ThePendulum> It did earlier, albeit a different install
[21:04] <deanrock0> hi, which graphics card (amd or nvidia) should I get if I have 2 or 3 monitors?
[21:05] <[Gentoo]> deanrock0: nvidia
[21:06] <deanrock0> [Gentoo]: what about tearing on second screen? is there any solution?
[21:06] <ofhs> gordonjcp: it's the only input device the sound settings recognizes. i don't think it's a problem with the mic either, because it works perfectly on any windows computer.
[21:06] <ofhs> accidentally said that to myself the first time
[21:06] <[Gentoo]> deanrock0: no idea
[21:07] <ccclipsss> Ubuntu won't properly create boot disks. I would like to try other versions of Linux but anytime I try to create a boot disk on a flash drive or DVD, I will use Startup Disk Creator and Unetbootin and they will seem to create it, but when I reboot my computer and go through the boot options, the USB flash drive and/or DVD do not show up.
[21:07] <Zagomah_> https://extensions.gnome.org/extension/669/wobbly-windows/
[21:08] <wilee-nilee> ccclipsss, Boot disc is incorrect labeling, you mean the ISO for OS installs right?
[21:08] <[Gentoo]> Zagomah_: what i always needed
[21:08] <Zagomah_> [Gentoo]: is pretty bug... lol
[21:08] <EncryptedSalsa> Just completed a LUKS/LVM install and got a few issues, on boot i get dropped to recovery shell in intramfs, i can cryptsetup mount my LUKS partition and then continue the boot just fine, i have setup /etc/crypttab however something isnt getting passed to the kernel on boot
[21:09] <EncryptedSalsa> Also i need to move grub over to a partition and not the MBR
[21:10] <wilee-nilee> ccclipsss, Have you tried these dvd/usb loads on any other computer?
[21:11] <hadifarnoud> how can I stop my mail server via terminal? my server is sending spam. I want to stop it now and deal with it
[21:11] <hadifarnoud> cant stop whole server though
[21:12] <chinny> sudo service postfix stop - if it's postfix
[21:12] <Tatanka> hey so are all of you able to see my IP etc?
[21:12] <Tatanka> sorry, noob here
[21:12] <wilee-nilee> hadifarnoud, A new install is your safest response if you want to be sure.
[21:12] <Tatanka> hoping to learn how to hide my server information etc for starters.
[21:12] <ccclipsss> wilee-nilee I mean the ISO for OS installs and I have attempted it on other computers and the USB drive does not work, nor do DVDs
[21:13] <k1l_> Tatanka: is that a ubuntu support question? for general talk we have #ubuntu-offtopic for freenode issues #freenode
[21:13] <ccclipsss> I have attempted it with all of the main distros as well as a few other distros, I have tried it with 32 bit and 64 bit and with multiple kernal versions.
[21:13] <Tatanka> ohh gotcha!
[21:13] <Tatanka> thank you
[21:13] <hadifarnoud> wilee-nilee: I can't just wipe out my server now. many websites are hosted on it. how can I disable mail server for now?
[21:13] <Tatanka> will be back after with some more sophisitcated questions