[17:15] <RenatoSilva> unop: i know, but they don't say anything
[17:15] <dmsuperman_> unop: oh
[17:15] <sluimers> okay
[17:15] <dimas_> how is it to decompress a .tar.gz file on the terminal?
[17:15] <dmsuperman_> hmm
[17:15] <RenatoSilva> David_: i know, but they don't say anything
[17:15] <unop> dmsuperman, man dpkg-reconfigure will tell you more
[17:15] <dmsuperman_> dimas_: an obnoxious tar command
[17:15] <kippy> anyone knows how to fix the swap space utilisation?
[17:16] <LeGreffi3R> dmsuperman_> the opposite of -plow (will ask you almost everything)
[17:16] <sluimers> Should I use framebuffer device interface?
[17:16] <unop> dimas_, tar zxf file.tgz
[17:16] <jking_> dimas: tar xzvf <tarfile>.tar.gz
[17:16] <dmsuperman_> yeah that
[17:16] <dmsuperman_> sluimers: try whatever it has selected by default
[17:16] <theunixgeek_> !turkish
[17:16] <ubotu> Turk ubuntu kullanicilari, turkce yardim yada geyik icin #ubuntu-tr hizmetinizde.
[17:16] <theunixgeek_> :)
[17:16] <tardtard> is there a room for the ps3 distro yet?
[17:16] <dimas_> jking thanks
[17:16] <dmsuperman_> sluimers: i chose no to get mine to work, but i think it says it's "safe" to turn it on
[17:16] <jking_> no problem
[17:17] <dmsuperman_> LeGreffi3R: thanks :D
[17:17] <Morgan> yeejaa
[17:17] <Morgan> mirc's lagged
[17:17] <Morgan> :p
[17:17] <lartza_> I can't add launchers to AWN. How to fix this?
[17:17] <Morgan> 1,2k of users :|
[17:17] <sluimers> dmsuperman_, I still get that battery error after choosing yes for emulating the 3 button mouse
[17:17] <kippy> Guys the swap space utilisation in always 0, what could be the problem?
[17:17] <dmsuperman_> how can i add programs to start when i boot into xserver?
[17:17] <tardtard> total linux noob here...  I killed my mouse use on PSUbuntu and I can get everything else to work...
[17:18] <IndyGunFreak> kippy: maybe nothing, most pc's don't access swap that often
[17:18] <unop> kippy, it's not always a problem .. the less utilization is the better
[17:18] <sluimers> Error inserting battery (lib/modules/2.6.22-14-generic/kernel/drivers/acpi/battery.ko
[17:18] <IndyGunFreak> kippy: are you using an old pc w/ very limited resources?
[17:18] <sluimers> : (No such device)
[17:18] <dmsuperman_> sluimers: i'm not an expert in xorg.conf, my only suggestion is try selecting no in emulating 3 button mouse :S
[17:19] <unop> kippy, what does /proc/swaps have to say about swap usage?
[17:19] <sluimers> okay
[17:19] <kippy> but i have never seen it ever being used, + the system has only 512 MB ram so not much.
[17:19] <sailaway85> hi
[17:19] <kippy> unop, it shows no utilisation
[17:19] <IndyGunFreak> kippy: if you have 512mb of ram, its pretty unlikely you'll use swap all that often as a normal desktop user
[17:20] <lartza_> I can't add launchers to AWN. How to fix this?
[17:20] <IndyGunFreak> kippy: i have Debian Etch that had half that much ran(recently upgraded to 512, cuz i got it cheap), and even at 256, i don't recall it ever accessing swap
[17:20] <luisgmarine> Hello can anyone tell me how to hook up my HDTV to my Ubuntu Laptop?
[17:20] <c0kit0_2007> Hey people, i was trying to install a driver for my webcam (logitech quickcam messenger) The driver comes into "qc-usb-messenger-1.7.tar.gz" from http://home.mag.cx
[17:21] <IndyGunFreak> luisgmarine: you generally do it via a hd cable
[17:21] <unop> kippy, you should be happy then, you're running an efficient system :)
[17:21] <dmsuperman_> !dualhead | luisgmarine
[17:21] <ubotu> luisgmarine: Information about dual-head on linux can be found on http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/DualHead - See also !Xinerama
[17:21] <jking_> luis do you have an hd tuner (usb or pcmcia)
[17:21] <kippy> then i guess its alright, but there was problem in swap creation at the time of installation so i had to create it afterwards and used swapon to set it as swap
[17:21] <luisgmarine> I have my HDTV hooked to my laptop through an HDMI cable
[17:21] <luisgmarine> but no image
[17:22] <IndyGunFreak> kippy: i agree w/ unop unless you're noticing severe slowdowns, etc, thats the only time swap is going to be accessed..
[17:22] <c0kit0_2007> when a made "make all"... the compiler sends me an error ...like this... error2: cant find quickcam.ko, the file or directory doesnt exist
[17:22] <luisgmarine> I have a cool laptop that had HDMI port-out
[17:22] <jking_> anyone: does ubuntu have support for hdmi ?
[17:22] <dmsuperman_> !dualhead | luisgmarine
[17:22] <ubotu> luisgmarine: Information about dual-head on linux can be found on http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/DualHead - See also !Xinerama
[17:22] <dmsuperman_> try that guide
[17:22] <dmsuperman_> jking_: i'm _kind of_ sure it does
[17:22] <unop> kippy, if you really want your swap to be used regularly (which you should never need to do) you can increase swappiness in the kernel
[17:22] <HanzZ> hi... I have next problem with dhclient... I want to use my own DNS server, but dhcp client rewrites /etc/resolv.conf everytime. I have set read-only permisions for this file, but it's still the same... how can tell to dhcp client that i want to use my own dns server?
[17:23] <IndyGunFreak> dmsuperman: you can PM ubotu triggers rather than just running them over and over and flooding the chanel.
[17:23] <kippy> IndyGunFreak, unop, well the only thing i have in mind about the whole issue is this that i created it manually after the installation , so could be that its misconfigured or something
[17:23] <IndyGunFreak> lol, swappiness.
[17:23] <sailaway85> I have an ati 2600hd card...ever time I try to install the drivers I end up reinstalling the whole damn system
[17:23] <jking_> ok had not really investigated hdmi just assumed no
[17:23] <dmsuperman_> jking_: i think i remember seeing in one of the guides i was using
[17:23] <jking_> should have realized its loomix it doesn't afraid of anything
[17:23] <unop> kippy, no, if swapon -s  lists a swap device .. then swap is configured alright
[17:23] <dmsuperman_> IndyGunFreak: I'd hardly call saying something a second time that was obviously overlooked "running them over and over adn flooding the channel"
[17:23] <IndyGunFreak> kippy: yup, what unop said.
[17:24] <kippy> unop, well no such hobbies!! just want to make sure that everything is configured alright
[17:24] <lartza_> Why can't I add launchers toAWN?
[17:24] <IndyGunFreak> dmsuperman: then use their name and highlight it to them and they won't over look it.
[17:24] <unop> kippy, it is :) what's so hard to beleive? :)
[17:24] <Adys> wine somehow lost association with .exe, is there a way to put it back?
[17:24] <dmsuperman_> IndyGunFreak: I did...
[17:24] <IndyGunFreak> then he likely didn't over look it.
[17:24] <luisgmarine> ok what is that dual-head stuff suppose to say?
[17:24] <IndyGunFreak> or if he did, he's an idiot
[17:24] <kippy> okay guys!! then guess linux is a lot better than windows!! coz there i had memory issues!!
[17:25] <unop> kippy, i have 256MB RAM and only use about 10MB in swap at most times .. so it says something about when you have 512MB
[17:25] <IndyGunFreak> kippy:  its just a matter of learn ing
[17:25] <David_> kippy,  yes it usually is
[17:25] <dmsuperman_> IndyGunFreak: An unsurprisingly eletist attitutde helps nobody
[17:25] <dmsuperman_> elitist*
[17:25] <sailaway85> I have an ati 2600hd card...ever time I try to install the drivers I end up reinstalling the whole damn system
[17:25] <IndyGunFreak> dmsuperman: true, but if i need your opinion on that, i'll ask.
[17:25] <sailaway85> can someone help
[17:25] <kippy> Okey Tokey Guys!!
[17:25] <LollinopiL> how can I disable the CPU's alarm ? ? ? ? everytime I close an open office document without saving it i heard that sound !!! can anyone help me ?
[17:25] <dmsuperman_> IndyGunFreak: and if i need your opinion as far as my trying to help others, i'll ask
[17:25] <IndyGunFreak> sailaway85: lol, how are you trying to install them?
[17:26] <sluimers> !patience
[17:26] <IndyGunFreak> dmsuperman: i don't care if you're helping, you're just flooding the channel with stupid bot factoids when you can just pm them.
[17:26] <ubotu> The people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[17:26] <unop> LollinopiL, see if this command turns it off.  xset b off
[17:26] <Adys> LollinopiL:  System -> preferences -> sound -> system beep
[17:26] <dmsuperman_> IndyGunFreak: and i don't care what you think, so all's well on my end ^.^
[17:26] <IndyGunFreak> good
[17:26] <unop> dmsuperman, IndyGunFreak - come on - where is your ubuntu spirit ? :)
[17:26] <HanzZ> got it :)
[17:27] <LollinopiL> Adys YEAH
[17:27] <IndyGunFreak> unop: i'm fine, just can't deal with idiost to well this morning
[17:27] <jking_> <== has spirit yes he does
[17:27] <kitty13kitty> anyone know where i can get help with vmnet/vmmon kernel modules not loading?
[17:27] <sailaway85> Thanks Indy Ive tried ati site and the new drivers from numurious sites.. what am i missing ?
[17:27] <dmsuperman_> luisgmarine: anyway, dual head is a way to use a second monitor and extend your desktop to it
[17:27] <unop> IndyGunFreak, that's like me every morning :)
[17:27] <kippy> unop, there is another problem with sounds, i can play music files but even after configuring system>pref>sounds i dont get sounds on sound events, just get the default system beep
[17:27] <TerrorismSux> caturday thread on 4chan.org is getting hammered /b/
[17:27] <IndyGunFreak> !ati | sailaway85 try looking here
[17:27] <ubotu> sailaway85 try looking here: For Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[17:28] <dmsuperman_> luisgmarine: so what you'd want to do is use your hdtv as a second monitor, and use that guide to set it up
[17:28] <unop> kippy, i dont use gnome - so i couldnt help you much there, maybe the others can suggest something
[17:28] <sailaway85> thanks again
[17:28] <glaxo> Running beta hardy heron, when doing a sources check I receive the following; "could not download all repository indexes" - Failed to fetch http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/hardy-security/Release  Unable to find expected entry  web/binary-i386/Packages in Meta-index file (malformed Release file?)
[17:28] <glaxo> Failed to fetch http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/hardy/Release  Unable to find expected entry  web/binary-i386/Packages in Meta-index file (malformed Release file?)
[17:28] <glaxo> Failed to fetch http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/hardy-updates/Release  Unable to find expected entry  web/binary-i386/Packages in Meta-index file (malformed Release file?)
[17:28] <glaxo> Some index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old ones used instead.
[17:28] <FloodBot1> glaxo: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:28] <IndyGunFreak> wtf?
[17:28] <IndyGunFreak> lol
[17:28] <kitty13kitty> holy spam
[17:28] <jking_> hi flood meet mop
[17:28] <IndyGunFreak> no, not spam, just an idiot
[17:28] <dmsuperman_> luisgmarine: there's also a guide, if you google "ubuntu dual monitor" on the ubuntu support forums is another thread that may also help
[17:29] <unop> glaxo, :s why do that?
[17:29] <LjL> !language
[17:29] <ubotu> Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[17:29] <kippy> thanks unop, come on other gnome users.. some help??
[17:29] <LjL> !feeding the troll
[17:29] <ubotu> The above mess was caused by someone who thought it was funny (they're gone now). Please ignore it completely, since discussing it and making a fuss will only make them think they've reached their "fun" goal.
[17:29] <glaxo> pasted into the wrong window, apologies guys and girls
[17:29] <IndyGunFreak> jking_: lol, i love it, they should be Mops as opposed to floodbots
[17:29] <dmsuperman_> glaxo: haha
[17:29] <sluimers> !heron
[17:29] <ubotu> Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 24, 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - CONSIDER IT TO BE BETA SOFTWARE - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[17:29] <Adys> kippy: I didnt follow, what is the problem?
[17:29] <_Silhouette_> Hello, I'm trying to boot into my linux install, but when I boot up my computer (dell dimension 4100) it gives me the message: invalid boot diskette. please insert a valid boot diskette in drive A:\. I've disabled the disk drive in the BIOS and I've even removed the physical drive, but the message still appears. How can I fix it?
[17:29] <jking_> lol
[17:29] <kippy> problem with sounds, i can play music files but even after configuring system>pref>sounds i dont get sounds on sound events, just get the default system beep
[17:29] <kitty13kitty> i wonder where the "disable pasting" option is in xchat...
[17:30] <dmsuperman_> _Silhouette_: remove the floppy disk from your floppy?
[17:30] <alecw1> I installed git via apt-get (sudo apt-get install git), but it doesn't seem like git is installed. I tried 'git config', and the console says: "bash: git: command not found". Can someone help me fix this?
[17:30] <Jimbo> Seveas: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/62949/
[17:30] <Adys> kippy: which version of ubuntu?
[17:30] <_Silhouette_> dmsuperman: there is none, and I've removed the entire drive!
[17:30] <kippy> gutsy
[17:30] <LjL> ok let me count... there were four (4) lines of flooding, and at least five (5) lines of commenting about them
[17:30] <LjL> i say nothing, make your sums.
[17:30] <kippy> *adys, i use gutsy
[17:30] <David_> rehash alecw1 ?
[17:30] <kitty13kitty> _Silhouette_ is this on the same machine you're on right now or a different one?
[17:30] <charles|64> ok mildly weird graphical issue
[17:30] <hj> hi, I have atheros adapter, athpci module is loaded, but no wlan0 interface is avaivable
[17:30] <alecw1> David_: what?
[17:30] <_Silhouette_> kitty13kitty: different one
[17:31] <luisgmarine> is dual-head a package?  I can't seem to find it int he repos.  I just want HDTV hooked up to my ubuntu laptop
[17:31] <jking_> not every one is running irc full screen it was almost a dozen lines for me
[17:31] <David_> have u tried rehash alecw1 ?
[17:31] <glaxo> on hardy heron when doing an update / checking sources the following is received - "could not download all repository indexes" see http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/62950/ for more details
[17:31] <IndyGunFreak> hj: which atheros device?
[17:31] <hj> how can i turn it on
[17:31] <charles|64> when ever I switch users on the system the screen gos white but you can enter in a password and it will log you in
[17:31] <dmsuperman_> _Silhouette_: sorry, i saw the first message and jumped to conclusions. what's your bios boot order? are you sure it's booting from your hard drive first?
[17:31] <alecw1> David_: I don't know what that is or how to do that
[17:31] <David_> alecw1, type 'rehash' as a command
[17:31] <Jimbo> I can't install openssh I get this error http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/62949/
[17:31] <kitty13kitty> _Silhouette_, have you removed all other bootable devices from the computer/bios boot sequence?
[17:31] <dmsuperman_> luisgmarine: no, it's not a package. It's a setup, and requires you (usually) to edit your xorg.conf file to set up
[17:31] <charles|64> any Ideas
[17:31] <hj> dmsuper AR5006EG
[17:31] <_Silhouette_> dmsuperman: yes, there is no fdd in the boot order
[17:32] <alecw1> David_: bash: rehash: command not found
[17:32] <_Silhouette_> kitty13kitty: just my cd-rom drive
[17:32] <_Silhouette_> and my hdd
[17:32] <IndyGunFreak> hj: have you tried madwifi?  it generally works better w/ atheros
[17:32] <_Silhouette_> no fdd
[17:32] <kitty13kitty> _Silhouette_, is there a cd in the drive ?
[17:32] <_Silhouette_> no
[17:32] <rausb0> alecw1: hash -r
[17:32] <dmsuperman_> _Silhouette_: try putting the hard drive at the very top, then 1 by 1 put any other boot devices at top to see if something messes up
[17:32] <abc> ciao a tutti
[17:32] <IndyGunFreak> hj: is that an acer computer by chance?
[17:32] <hj> Indy: Ive tried but it didnt want to compile
[17:32] <_Silhouette_> dmsuperman: it's messed up whatever I put the order as. I will try just booting from HD
[17:32] <kitty13kitty> _Silhouette_, ok, have you setup grub or similar on the system yet? do you have a cdr+ that you can make bootable images with?
[17:33] <David_> alecw1, oh sorry try hash -r instead :p
[17:33] <IndyGunFreak> hj: then you didn't do it correctly..
[17:33] <hj> indygun: yep acer
[17:33] <IndyGunFreak> hj: 5315?
[17:33] <_Silhouette_> kitty13kitty: no grub. I've made and installed linux already
[17:33] <alecw1> rausb0: David_: ok, executed. I tried rerunning git and same error.
[17:33] <hj> indy: downloaded, extracted and make
[17:33] <kitty13kitty> which flavor linux are you using?
[17:33] <_Silhouette_> ubuntu
[17:33] <hj> indy: yep
[17:33] <dmsuperman_> _Silhouette_: what are you using for your bootloader then?
[17:33] <_Silhouette_> it's happened with my old ME OS though
[17:33] <koffordet> Where is internet explorer???
[17:33] <IndyGunFreak> hj: hang on, i have a link that will help you, the problem is, the kernel misdetects that device
[17:33] <jking_> HA
[17:34] <IndyGunFreak> hj: its actually an ar0007
[17:34] <dmsuperman_> koffordet: internet exporer for ubuntu? or windows?
[17:34] <_Silhouette_> dmsuperman_: I dunno what a bootloader is. I just know this has happened even with my old OS and it hasn't gone away
[17:34] <kitty13kitty> _Silhouette_, does the system boot at all or does it just come to "please insert boot disk" ?
[17:34] <IndyGunFreak> hj: but you will need to compile madwifi.
[17:34] <_Silhouette_> I'm not even sure the HD in the BIOS is the right one
[17:34] <dmsuperman_> _Silhouette_: If you haven't installed grub, that's your problem. you need to install grub, it's a bootloader
[17:34] <koffordet> For ubuntu 6.06
[17:34] <dmsuperman_> !bootloader | _Silhouette_
[17:34] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about bootloader - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[17:34] <_Silhouette_> kitty13kitty: it just says that after the initial post messages or logo
[17:34] <dmsuperman_> darn
[17:34] <_Silhouette_> dmsuperman: I can't access my hard drive, though. It just gives me that message first.
[17:35] <kitty13kitty> _Silhouette_, do you have the live cd for ubuntu ?
[17:35] <dmsuperman_> _Silhouette_: well anyway, a bootloader is what your computer boots first. it decides after that how to boto your operating system
[17:35] <glaxo> on hardy heron when doing an update / checking sources the following is received - "could not download all repository indexes" see http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/62950/ for more details
[17:35] <_Silhouette_> kitty13kitty: alternate.
[17:35] <hj> indy:ok, i can try let me see this link, its a progress, ive spent few hours already on this
[17:35] <dmsuperman_> _Silhouette_: put in your livecd, boot into the live ubuntu
[17:35] <Jimbo> How do I clear screen in terminal?
[17:35] <RoAkSoAx> Jimbo, clear
[17:35] <jking_> type clear
[17:35] <_Silhouette_> dmsuperman_: it won't work. It goes to a blank pink screen
[17:35] <blind> Having some problems... when I boot up, I have to reinstall the nvidia driver. Whatever, Not a big deal.. Now, when I restart the gdm.. I just get a black screen and nothing else works.
[17:35] <dmsuperman_> _Silhouette_: and install grub. google "ubuntu install grub" and i think the first result is a good quick guide how to do it
[17:35] <_Silhouette_> dmsuperman_: I can't install grub if I can't get to my HDD.
[17:35] <luisgmarine> I'm not even seeing an image when I mess around with the screen menu
[17:36] <dmsuperman_> _Silhouette_: that's odd. have you tried booting to the livecd's graphic safe mode?
[17:36] <_Silhouette_> dmsuperman_: yes
[17:36] <_Silhouette_> doesn't work
[17:36] <beast> hello, can anyone tell me the shell command to install the flashplayer
[17:36] <sailaway85> forgot to mention I'm using hardy  cause 7.1 wont boot with my ati 2600hd . The site hasnt a reference to hardy  which hasnt got a restricted driver manager
[17:36] <dmsuperman_> _Silhouette_: how about downloading the linux restore cd? i'm not sure where it is offhand
[17:36] <kitty13kitty> _Silhouette_, you'll want to get a livecd, they make some minimal disks for other flavors, (as small as 40Mb) and boot your system with it, and check fdisk to see if you've partitioned your drive, and use grub or lilo to install a boot manager
[17:36] <dmsuperman_> _Silhouette_: but you can do it from the linux restore cd
[17:36] <IndyGunFreak> hj: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=4219190#post4219190
[17:36] <jrib> sailaway85: it does, but you are in the wrong room.  Hardy support is in 8.04
[17:36] <IndyGunFreak> hj: those instructions are quite clear
[17:36] <jrib> sailaway85: oops, hardy suuport is in #ubuntu+1 I mean
[17:37] <dmsuperman_> _Silhouette_: http://sysresccd.org
[17:37] <dmsuperman_> _Silhouette_: get that, and try reinstalling grub from there
[17:37] <_Silhouette_> okay....I just tried with only the IDE HD in the boot order, and same message.
[17:37] <_Silhouette_> dmsuperman_: why do I need to restore linux? I haven't even gotten into it
[17:37] <David_> alecw1, don't know git but there is a command git-config not 'git config'
[17:38] <IndyGunFreak> lol
[17:38] <dmsuperman_> _Silhouette_: you aren't restoring linux, but the linux restore cd allows you to access a commandline
[17:38] <dmsuperman_> _Silhouette_: from that commandline, you can install grub, which you need installed to boot into ubuntu
[17:38] <blind> Having some problems... when I boot up, I have to reinstall the nvidia driver. Whatever, Not a big deal.. Now, when I restart the gdm.. I just get a black screen and nothing else works.
[17:38] <Jimbo> Isn't aptget using the default KDE proxy?
[17:38] <alecw1> David_: I found the problem, the 'git' in the repository is actually a different program than what I'm looking for. I'm looking for the VCS (like SVN or Bazaar) git, not the other one. It's really git-core.
[17:38] <alecw1> I think.
[17:38] <dmsuperman_> _Silhouette_: without grub, you have no bootloader, meaning you can't boot into your OS
[17:38] <_Silhouette_> dmsuperman_: oh....doesn't the alternate CD have a commandline?
[17:38] <crdlb> alecw1: correct
[17:38] <bo-dick> can i mount a network drive in ubuntu?
[17:39] <David_> k thanks alecw1 i'll bear that in mind if ever i need to use git ;)
[17:39] <dmsuperman_> _Silhouette_: sure, any method. i didn't know you had that, and you mentioned the livecd didn't work.
[17:39] <IndyGunFreak> hj: did you get that link?
[17:39] <bo-dick> target machine is windows vista
[17:39] <dmsuperman_> _Silhouette_: just get into a commandline that will allow you to install grub :D
[17:39] <beast>  hello, can anyone tell me the shell command to install the flashplayer???
[17:39] <leafwiz> Hi, anyone here tried to install ubuntu on a nVidia raid 1 ?
[17:39] <_Silhouette_> dmsuperman_: how do I install grub? it has no internet
[17:39] <leafwiz> I get grub error 17
[17:39] <dmsuperman_> _Silhouette_: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=224351
[17:40] <dmsuperman_> _Silhouette_: it says to use the livecd, but you can use any cd that lets you access a commandline
[17:40] <_Silhouette_> dmsuperman_: is grub already on the CD?
[17:40] <guillem> hola
[17:40] <dmsuperman_> _Silhouette_: yes
[17:40] <guillem_> hola
[17:41] <kitty13kitty> guillem, there is a spanish channel somewhere
[17:41] <arvind_khadri> beast, i dont think there is any available
[17:41] <bo-dick> is it possible to mount network ntfs drives?
[17:41] <guillem> thanks
[17:41] <dmsuperman_> bo-dick: yes
[17:41] <kitty13kitty> bo-dick, if you enable it in your kernel :D
[17:41] <didy> finally!!!
[17:41] <dmsuperman_> bo-dick: i don't know how particularly offhand, but i know it's possible
[17:42] <beast> ok
[17:42] <arvind_khadri> beast, what do u want to play??
[17:42] <bo-dick> would be convenient
[17:42] <bo-dick> maybe i should read up
[17:42] <dmsuperman_> bo-dick: very much :D
[17:42] <bo-dick> thanks anyway
[17:43] <dmsuperman_> bo-dick: you could also try using samba
[17:43] <TerrorismSux> Ok ive enabled the restricted nvidia driver... i know there is another step i have to take
[17:43] <TerrorismSux> is it the /etc/X11/xorg.conf one?
[17:43] <dmsuperman_> TerrorismSux: what are you trying to achieve?
[17:44] <TerrorismSux> My 22" monitor to display at 1680x1050 and play games
[17:44] <kitty13kitty> TerrorismSux, install windows :P
[17:44] <jking_> lol
[17:44] <dmsuperman_> yeah, good luck getting any games to run in linux :P
[17:44] <IndyGunFreak> kitty13kitty: lol pwned!
[17:44] <TerrorismSux> if you can tell me how i can get it back on this hard drive i will
[17:44] <TerrorismSux> my windows xp disk wont install on this HD anymore
[17:44] <self_up> hi all, i have ubuntu on my laptop, which notifies me from time to time that updates are available - but how do i make sure i'm up to date on my ubuntu server (remote vps)?
[17:44] <dmsuperman_> TerrorismSux: create a partition, insert windows xp disk, install
[17:44] <TerrorismSux> it freezes after i hit "press any key to boot from cd"
[17:44] <IndyGunFreak> TerrorismSux: why not?
[17:45] <Jimbo> How do I make apt-get connect through a proxy?
[17:45] <dmsuperman_> TerrorismSux: try another window cd
[17:45] <TerrorismSux> i only have 1 Windows XP Professional disk
[17:45] <TerrorismSux> i have 22 hard drives tho
[17:45] <arvind_khadri> TerrorismSux, why dont u use Wine
[17:45] <dmsuperman_> TerrorismSux: download one :D
[17:45] <dmsuperman_> TerrorismSux: or try one of thoe otehr drives
[17:45] <TerrorismSux> LOL im trying to use linux
[17:45] <sikava> hw can i download yahoomessenger and make it work in my ubuntu sytem?ive tryd n  its not working
[17:45] <TerrorismSux> i did dmsuperman
[17:45] <TerrorismSux> it worked
[17:45] <jking_> Terror | try g4l
[17:45] <jking_> or ghost 4 linux
[17:45] <TerrorismSux> i have xp on another drive, but this is my fastest one
[17:46] <dmsuperman_> TerrorismSux: linux doesn't run windows games very well. it's the one reason i even have windows installed anymore
[17:46] <kitty13kitty> TerrorismSux, i'm not sure on the restricted drivers for ubuntu, but you can just use the dpkg -configure X11 or whatever it is to configure your video for the new driver
[17:46] <dmsuperman_> TerrorismSux: get another windows xp disk, and try it
[17:46] <IndyGunFreak> sikava: is there a reason you can't use Pidgin?
[17:46]  * kitty13kitty looks at manual
[17:46] <dmsuperman_> kitty13kitty: "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"
[17:46] <kitty13kitty> dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[17:46] <Scunizi> sikava, y-messenger won't work in ubuntu or any other linux
[17:47] <kitty13kitty> yeah as he was saying
[17:47] <arvind_khadri> sikava, u can use wine ,but it doesnt work properly
[17:47] <TerrorismSux> is there any way to format my HD with FAT32 and have the xp disk recognize the drive again?
[17:47] <dmsuperman_> sikava: plus, pidgin is LOADS better than any of the other clients
[17:47] <TerrorismSux> i have a ubuntu pen drive
[17:47] <IndyGunFreak> Scunizi: isnt' ther a project for Yahoo messenger in Linux?.. i can't remember the name of it though
[17:47] <cow_2001> i'm trying to connect to a ubuntu machine with "vncviewer -via..."
[17:47] <RyanPrior> sikava: Yahoo messenger is supported on Linux. Scunizi - that's not true.
[17:47] <dmsuperman_> TerrorismSux: sure, just format it.
[17:47] <TerrorismSux> ill try to reformat brb
[17:47] <kitty13kitty> TerrorismSux, what hd setup are you using, raid/scsi ?
[17:47] <dmsuperman_> Terrasque: he started formatting!
[17:47] <didy> how do i automount my ntfs partitions with full read/write permission everytime i start ubuntu??
[17:47] <dmsuperman_> :O
[17:47] <arvind_khadri> dmsuperman, i think kopete is more better,as it supports cams
[17:47] <jking_> Bye Terrorism
[17:47] <dmsuperman_> =P
[17:47] <IndyGunFreak> RyanPrior: i think sikava died anyways, he hasn't responded to anything since his first question..lol
[17:48] <kitty13kitty> i love it when people just goto format as the first response
[17:48] <dmsuperman_> arvind_khadri: not a cam guy, so no issue for me :P
[17:48] <sikava> so hw do i go about it? as in do i google for yahoomessenger or wat?
[17:48] <RyanPrior> IndyGunFreak: Oh well then. :-)
[17:48] <IndyGunFreak> kitty13kitty: its the windows way of fixing things.
[17:48] <cow_2001> it just would not work
[17:48] <dmsuperman_> kitty13kitty: it was his decision, not min
[17:48] <arvind_khadri> didy u need to edit ur mtab
[17:48] <kitty13kitty> didy, use the fstab
[17:48] <dmsuperman_> mien*
[17:48] <cow_2001> channel 3: open failed: connect failed: Connection timed out
[17:48] <meoblast001> hello
[17:48] <glaxo> on hardy heron when doing an update / checking sources the following is received - "could not download all repository indexes" see http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/62950/ for more details
[17:48] <kakoonia> someone know where can i find the cursor library?
[17:48] <RyanPrior> sikava: http://messenger.yahoo.com/unix.php
[17:48] <jking_> sikava try meebo.com
[17:48] <RyanPrior> sikava: Download the Debian package.
[17:48] <meoblast001> does anyone know what a good GTK designer is that can write directly to C++ files
[17:48] <stefg> !hardy | glaxo
[17:48] <ubotu> glaxo: Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 24, 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - CONSIDER IT TO BE BETA SOFTWARE - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[17:48] <IndyGunFreak> sikava: just respond, please!
[17:49] <dmsuperman_> didy: more specifically, use ntfs-3g in your /etc/fstab
[17:49] <meoblast001> ?
[17:49] <glaxo> thanks
[17:49] <didy> mtab or fstab? can u be detailed?
[17:49]  * IndyGunFreak hates meebo
[17:49] <J-Unit> i have wallpapoz installed and i changed settings to which pics i want it to show but it wont actually change wallpapers wen i switch workspaces
[17:49] <arvind_khadri> didy both
[17:49] <didy> any guide?
[17:49] <Scunizi> RyanPrior, IndyGunFreak there are projects in linux that will connect to ymess. but using the download client for windows made for Yahoo Mess. doesn't work. Pidgin works and there may be others
[17:49] <kitty13kitty> the fstab file will have comments
[17:49] <RyanPrior> jking_: Meebo is not a proper instant messenger. It doesn't have half the features one would expect. It has its place, but not as a replacement for all desktop IMs.
[17:49] <dmsuperman_> !ntfs-3g | didy
[17:49] <ubotu> didy: ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[17:49] <kitty13kitty> it shows you examples for plenty of drive options and such
[17:49] <r00723r0> Hardy's officially released on the 24th right?
[17:49] <glaxo> thanks stefg
[17:49] <slimjimflim> anybody know how to change the sound device for the non-free flash package?
[17:49] <dubphil> Hello, I have a very very strange behavior with my network : I have a server A that is forwarded the internet connections to the computer B. The both interfaces are Broadcoms Tigon3 Gigabit controlers, and hold your mouse, when I download a big file from Internet, I reach about 2Mb/s but when I use scp or nfs to copy a big file over A and B I don't get over 1 Mb/s, is this something possible ?
[17:49] <didy> thanks baby!!!!!!!
[17:49] <slimjimflim> anybody know how to change the sound device for the non-free flash package?
[17:49] <FloodBot1> slimjimflim: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:49] <RyanPrior> didy: You can mount NTFS drives on fstab using ntfs-3g.
[17:49] <slimjimflim> oops sorry
[17:49] <IndyGunFreak> Scunizi: no, there's a yahoo client for LInux, i jsut can't remember the name of it,s tarts with a G i think
[17:50] <sikava> am on meebo.com
[17:50] <dmsuperman_> RyanPrior: I doubt they'd expect many people to use it as a replacement, but i'm using it right now from windows since i didn't want to install pidgin for a single use
[17:50] <arvind_khadri> !hardy | r00723r0
[17:50] <ubotu> r00723r0: Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 24, 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - CONSIDER IT TO BE BETA SOFTWARE - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[17:50] <RyanPrior> !hardy | r00723r0
[17:50] <Scunizi> IndyGunFreak, available directly from Yahoo?  like I said.. there are other projects made for linux but not by yahoo
[17:50] <IndyGunFreak> sikava: now that you've woke up, why can't you use Pidgin?..
[17:50] <r00723r0> Sweet.
[17:50] <jking_> dmsuperman that is the exact reason i suggested it
[17:50] <sikava> so ijuz google pidgin?
[17:50] <kakoonia> someone know where can i find the cursor library?
[17:50] <IndyGunFreak> Scunizi: i didnm't sayi t was made by yahoo.
[17:51] <dmsuperman_> sikava: "sudo apt-get install pidgin"
[17:51] <IndyGunFreak> sikava: no, it should have been installed w/ your setup.
[17:51] <arvind_khadri> sikava, ehich ubuntu are u using??
[17:51] <kitty13kitty> dubphil, do you get that through put from the internet to computer b?
[17:51] <RyanPrior> sikava: If a person is used to using Y!IM, and it's supported on Linux, then why should they be pushed to another IM?
[17:51] <dmsuperman_> IndyGunFreak: it wasn't with mine by default
[17:51] <sikava> linux
[17:51] <IndyGunFreak> dmsuperman: then you had an amazing install.
[17:51] <Scunizi> IndyGunFreak, you're not thinking of Gaim are you?  because that IS Pidgin.. .. that was my original point.. sounded like he was trying to get the "real" Yahoo Messenger to work
[17:51] <IndyGunFreak> i've installed gutsy on no less than 30 machines, and everytime, pidgin was there with the new install.
[17:51] <dubphil> kitty13kitty: yes I didnot mention that all the measures are done from the computer B
[17:51] <IndyGunFreak> Scunizi: no
[17:51] <jking_> which version of ubuntu == Linux w00t
[17:51] <arvind_khadri> sikava, is it 7.04 or 7.10??
[17:51] <blakis21> how do i add more resolution options
[17:51] <dmsuperman_> IndyGunFreak: my 7.10 disk is like 2 months old, not sure why it wasn't with it but i had to manually install it :s
[17:52] <kitty13kitty> dubphil, is computer A NT based?
[17:52] <IndyGunFreak> whatever
[17:52] <sikava> 7.10
[17:52] <IndyGunFreak> spread that to someone who doesn't know better
[17:52] <dubphil> no it is a debian etch
[17:52] <RyanPrior> jking_: All Ubuntu versions are Linux.
[17:52] <jking_> Duh
[17:52] <arvind_khadri> sikava, pidgin comes default in 7.10
[17:52] <IndyGunFreak> sikava: you should have pidgin installd, Applications/Internet
[17:52] <dmsuperman_> please remove the stick from your ass
[17:52] <RyanPrior> jking_: Why ask if it's a "duh
[17:52] <IndyGunFreak> dmsuperman: it will be removed when you are
[17:52] <Scunizi> IndyGunFreak, you're tinking of this maybe? http://jymsg9.sourceforge.net/
[17:52] <blakis21> how do i add more resolution options
[17:52] <RyanPrior> !language | dmsuperman
[17:52] <ubotu> dmsuperman: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[17:52] <kitty13kitty> dubphil well, you might be running into either you setup iptables to throttle your traffic, or your machine is being loaded down when transfering
[17:53] <sikava> application/internet then?
[17:53] <IndyGunFreak> no, i was thinkign it started with a G..
[17:53] <jking_> I didn't ask i was simply commenting on the answer
[17:53] <neil> hi, can someone help me with a problem i am having installing my NVIDIA GFX card please
[17:53] <arvind_khadri> sikava then pidgin
[17:53] <IndyGunFreak> sikava: do you see Pidgin Instant Messenger there?
[17:53] <IndyGunFreak> lol, jesus
[17:53] <RyanPrior> !nvidia | neil
[17:53] <ubotu> neil: For Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[17:53] <gurpreet> which one is wireless interface? wifi0 or ath0? both are there on my machine
[17:53] <Helpsys> aloha
[17:53] <Lifeisfunny> man, I saw that wallpaper in the screenshots of hardy heron ....... I hope the give the option to not install that !!!!!!!!!!!!  sheeesh.    I bet, that alone is enough to cause a crash __  scary- that heron might cause an epileptic attack.
[17:53] <neil> well the problem is more todo with the drivers clashing
[17:53] <IndyGunFreak> lol
[17:53] <dubphil> kitty13kitty: I have an Iptables scripts on computer B, I will look at it thanks a lot for the hint !
[17:54] <Gibb> how do I configure the weather panel on the top bar to use a proxy? anyone know?
[17:54] <taker> hello, how do u install nusphere phped on ubuntu?
[17:54] <dmsuperman_> gurpreet: I would imagine that wifi0 is it =P
[17:54] <kitty13kitty> dubphil, you can also try other ways of sharing the files
[17:54] <Orbixx|Mob> I have a laptop without an optical drive. How would I get Ubuntu on it?
[17:54] <Scunizi> IndyGunFreak, yes.. pidgin is always there .. never said any different... and it works.. did you look at the link I gave?  just another alternative..
[17:54] <kitty13kitty> dubphil, if you're using ssh it has to encrypt the file before transering, and could slow the process down, try a simple ftp server instead ?
[17:54] <harmental> hey guys...im looking for a tool reprenting a chronometer....
[17:54] <IndyGunFreak> Scunizi: i know you didn't, some other numbskull did
[17:54] <gurpreet> dmsuperman, but when i do tcpdump -i ath0 and then do a ping google.com from other term then it shows some packets
[17:55] <RyanPrior> Orbixx|Mob: You could netboot if it has ethernet.
[17:55] <dubphil> kitty13kitty: yes good idea I try the ftp
[17:55] <IndyGunFreak> Scunizi: yes, i looked at it, but thats not what i was thinking,t he one i was thinking of, starts w/ a G
[17:55] <gurpreet> dmsuperman, ifconfig is showing data transferred size for both of them
[17:55] <Orbixx|Mob> It does, not sure if it supports netboot though.
[17:55] <kitty13kitty> Orbixx|Mob, how much free hd space do you have available?
[17:55] <Orbixx|Mob> Have never netbooted either.
[17:55] <RyanPrior> Orbixx|Mob: Or if it already has Windows on it, you could use Wubi.
[17:55] <blakis21> a little help here...how do i add more resolution options
[17:55] <kitty13kitty> Orbixx|Mob, and how much of it is not allocated atm?
[17:55] <dmsuperman_> gurpreet: are both connected? disable the eth0 and try. or just disconnect it
[17:56] <dmsuperman_> blakis21: in /etc/xorg.conf
[17:56] <Orbixx|Mob> Kitty, bout 30gb
[17:56] <Scunizi> IndyGunFreak, ah.. sorry.. to busy googling.. maybe Gym?  http://sarovar.org/projects/gym/
[17:56] <dmsuperman_> blakis21: sorry, /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[17:56] <kitty13kitty> Orbixx|Mob, so you have 30gb of unpartitioned space or just free space?
[17:56] <gurpreet> dmsuperman, eth0 is there on my interface but its not configured. the confusion is between ath0 and wifi0
[17:56] <blakis21> dmsuperman thanx
[17:56] <IndyGunFreak> Scunizi: man that drove me crazy, Gyache is what i was thinking of...lol
[17:56] <RyanPrior> Orbixx|Mob: 30gb is plenty for an Ubuntu install. I suggest netboot, Wubi, or external optical drive.
[17:56] <Jimbo> where are *.conf files of applications kept?
[17:56] <Orbixx|Mob> Free space, but i'm sure i could shrink the partition.
[17:56] <IndyGunFreak> Scunizi: http://gyachi.sourceforge.net/
[17:56] <Odd-rationale> Jimbo: /etc usually
[17:56] <kitty13kitty> Orbixx|Mob, www.google.com look for partition magic, you can shrink your partition from windows, make it like 10G smaller, and make a new partition after it
[17:57] <RyanPrior> kitty13kitty: Partition Magic isn't needed for Vista users. Ask if people have Vista first.
[17:57] <kitty13kitty> Orbixx|Mob, then you can use vmware to install a linux flavor using direct hd manipulation
[17:57] <Scunizi> IndyGunFreak, there are a lot of them out there.. :)
[17:57] <kitty13kitty> people USE vista ???
[17:57] <Liamm> oyoyyy
[17:57] <RyanPrior> Orbixx|Mob: Are you wanting to shrink your Windows partition or eliminate it?
[17:57]  * kitty13kitty boggles
[17:57] <IndyGunFreak> Scunizi: indeed, i knew i heard of oen that started with a G, just couldn't rmember the name
[17:57] <Orbixx|Mob> Windows should be able toshrink it in disk management.
[17:57] <IndyGunFreak> kitty13kitty: 1 or 2 people d..
[17:57] <RyanPrior> Orbixx|Mob: If you have Vista, it sure can. :-)
[17:58] <Orbixx|Mob> I don't fancy having windows on it.
[17:58] <Orbixx|Mob> Just linux.
[17:58] <Liamm> ubuntu my favorite os
[17:58] <IndyGunFreak> RyanPrior: the thing is, i don['t trust windows to do anything important, and that would include partitioning
[17:58] <kitty13kitty> billgates and gabe ... last i counted
[17:58] <Liamm> :)
[17:58] <Gibb> how does the synaptic package handler connect to the internet? I need to setup a proxy for it
[17:58] <Orbixx|Mob> I'd prefer just to wipe it.
[17:58] <IndyGunFreak> kitty13kitty: lol
[17:58] <Liamm> cant wait for the new release to be finished
[17:58] <RyanPrior> Orbixx|Mob: In that case, no worries about your Windows partition - just nuke it.
[17:58] <bo-dick> pretty hard to find information about mounting network drives in ubuntu
[17:58] <IndyGunFreak> Orbixx|Mob: just think long and hard before you do that.
[17:58] <Odd-rationale> Gibb: hold on. let me get the wiki page for you...
[17:58] <RyanPrior> Orbixx|Mob: Can you get ahold of an external optical drive? (Even if you don't have a friend who's got one, A-Z Rent All or similar might have one)
[17:58] <kitty13kitty> Orbixx|Mob, you can't nuke it if you don't have a way to get a new os on it quite yet
[17:58] <Jimbo> How come I don't have apt.conf?
[17:58] <bo-dick> i shouldn't have to edit fstab to do that huh
[17:59] <neil> i have tried installing via the restricted drivers but it fails
[17:59] <alphaaa> when u install a new program, is it automatically added to the start menu ?
[17:59] <Orbixx|Mob> Why is that?
[17:59] <Orbixx|Mob> Yes, kitty.
[17:59] <Gibb> Odd-rationale, thx
[17:59] <nirc> hey
[17:59] <RyanPrior> IndyGunFreak: Vista's partition editor is actually really excelelnt.
[17:59] <arvind_khadri> alphaaa, yes
[17:59] <Odd-rationale> Gibb: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto?action=show&redirect=AptGetHowTo#head-09fab4df311ef78d0376d13547043811307c49fa
[17:59] <kitty13kitty> Orbixx|Mob, well it'd be nice to have your NEW os installed before you nuke the old one :P
[17:59] <Gibb> you rock Odd-rationale
[17:59] <IndyGunFreak> RyanPrior: really?.. iv'e heard good things about it, but never used it... I just figured like most things MS, it sucked, was glitchy, and crash-prone
[17:59] <Odd-rationale> Gibb: :)
[17:59] <kippy> guys when i try to connect my phone using bluetooth i get the following error : "obex://[00:13:e0:1d:91:5b]" is not a valid location." Any suggestions?
[17:59] <gurpreet> which one is the real wireless interface? wifi0 or ath0?
[17:59] <Orbixx|Mob> I really just need a way to get ubuntu on as the single unemulated operating system.
[18:00] <kitty13kitty> Orbixx|Mob, if you can shrink the partiton, use vmplayer and the machine image/livecd to install to your hd. you can do it all before nuking your windows partition
[18:00] <RyanPrior> IndyGunFreak: As much as I've heard complaints about Vista, I haven't heard anything negative about its hard drive management.
[18:00] <didy> !pidgin
[18:00] <ubotu> The Instant Messenger Client Pidgin (formerly Gaim) (http://help.ubuntu.com/community/GaimHowto) supports MSN, Jabber, AIM, Gadu-Gadu, Novell Groupwise, ICQ and IRC. See also !Kopete
[18:00] <IndyGunFreak> RyanPrior: lol
[18:00] <KrimZon> RyanPrior, vista's hd management sucks!
[18:00] <jking_> have you heard of anyone using Vista
[18:01] <jking_> and liking it
[18:01] <kitty13kitty> Orbixx|Mob, if you have a second machine you can always take your hd out and put it in that one, then just nukes away and install there and take the disk back to the computer with nod drives
[18:01] <jking_> i haven't
[18:01] <RyanPrior> kitty13kitty: It seems to me that instructing somebody to install Partition Magic and VMware, both non-free packages, in order to install Ubuntu is a little backwards.
[18:01] <Orbixx|Mob> Is there a way to install ubuntu directly from a booted windows environment?
[18:01] <Odd-rationale> jking_: i once did...
[18:01] <fresh_dumbledore> will there be a ubuntu 8.10?
[18:01] <IndyGunFreak> jking_: there's a few people out there that like it, why i don't know.. but i believe Vista is gonna push people towards OSX and Linux
[18:01] <jking_> :)
[18:01] <Odd-rationale> fresh_dumbledore: yes. if all goes well
[18:01] <RyanPrior> Orbixx|Mob: Wubi will work for that quite nicely! Google it.
[18:01] <Orbixx|Mob> Ah. Kitty, that would work?
[18:01] <arvind_khadri> Orbixx|Mob, wubi
[18:01] <IndyGunFreak> fresh_dumbledore: eventually
[18:01] <bo-dick> is this correct? "sudo mount //192.168.0.xxx/foo /media/foo"
[18:01] <PSiHo_pAT> jaa
[18:01] <jking_> OSX is really nice
[18:01] <xhaleor> dubmbledore - that'll be the october 08 release
[18:01] <dimas_> i am trying to run as server but my computer said "client socket...is running in another process"
[18:01] <kippy> guys when i try to connect my phone using bluetooth i get the following error : "obex://[00:13:e0:1d:91:5b]" is not a valid location." Any suggestions?
[18:01] <jking_> but same as linux little third party support for software
[18:01] <PSiHo_pAT> ioakjmjs
[18:01] <jking_> and games
[18:01] <PSiHo_pAT> anjsms
[18:01] <RyanPrior> jking_: OSX doesn't have the most important feature: freedom. :-)
[18:01] <Odd-rationale> jking_: be best to disscuss in #ubuntu-offtopic
[18:02] <kitty13kitty> vmplayer is free, and partition magic has a trial period
[18:02] <jking_> true true
[18:02] <PSiHo_pAT> jamskjshsm
[18:02] <IndyGunFreak> then 9.04, then 9.10, then 10.4, 10.10, 11.04, 11.10, etc
[18:02] <PSiHo_pAT> nmanatsgssa
[18:02] <Orbixx|Mob> Wubi...
[18:02] <Orbixx|Mob> Cool, thanks.
[18:02] <kitty13kitty> and if he is gonna nuke his partition afterwards, he isn't out much
[18:02] <fresh_dumbledore> will it be possible to update from 8.04 to 8.10 without data loss?
[18:02] <Odd-rationale> fresh_dumbledore: yes
[18:02] <RyanPrior> Orbixx|Mob: if you install via Wubi and it works well, there's a way to migrate that install to a dedicated partition as well. It's a good option.
[18:02] <xhaleor> dumbledore - absolutely
[18:02] <IndyGunFreak> jking_: it seems games are the biggest oroblem on linux.
[18:02] <arvind_khadri> fresh_dumbledore, yeah
[18:02] <PSiHo_pAT> ioaksn   nmaszvgs
[18:02] <IndyGunFreak> but htere are some cool ones out there, i'm fairly addicted to assaultcube
[18:02] <PSiHo_pAT> opsus
[18:03] <KrimZon> i'm about write my wubi virtual disks over the top of the vista partition, except i really want to install XP first
[18:03] <RyanPrior> IndyGunFreak: Actually, CrossOver Games / Wine and Cedega/WineX are getting really excellent.
[18:03] <jking_> yeah and now if you want to have a great gaming experience well get a console
[18:03] <jking_> but there are some nice Open Sores games out there
[18:03] <IndyGunFreak> RyanPrior: really?.. i've not used Crossover in a while
[18:03] <fresh_dumbledore> is 32bit or 64bit better for amd athlon 64 x2 500+ and 2gb ram?
[18:03] <KrimZon> but i'd have to flash the bios for that and last time i tried updating a bios the new bios was worse
[18:03] <RyanPrior> IndyGunFreak: I play at LANs with Windows gamers all the time using Wine, and a friend who's got Cedega can play even more game than I can.
[18:03] <Dinasty> I had bad luck with Crossover
[18:03] <dimas_> i am trying to run shoutcast server but when i initialized it give me this...<04/12/08@12:24:09> [main] source thread starting
 [main] opening client socket
 [main] error opening client socket! FATAL ERROR! Some other process is using this port!
[18:03] <PSiHo_pAT> jkahans
[18:03] <PSiHo_pAT> bgsgssnusam
[18:03] <IndyGunFreak> RyanPrior: hmm, i'm more a console gamer, but thats good to know.
[18:03] <RyanPrior> fresh_dumbledore: 32-bit ought to work well for you.
[18:03] <Dinasty> I had Crossover working, but performance is slow
[18:03] <PSiHo_pAT> bngyaserab hs
[18:04] <arvind_khadri> PSiHo_pAT, this is english channel
[18:04] <jking_> Ryan not all games are completely bug free via wine
[18:04] <RyanPrior> fresh_dumbledore: If you upgrade to 4GB of RAM, then you'll want to go 64-bit, but at 2GB you won't see much performance increase.
[18:04] <PSiHo_pAT> nhhsysnah
[18:04] <fraroco> hello
[18:04] <jking_> well for that matter on windows either lulz
[18:04] <RyanPrior> fresh_dumbledore: If you're interested in benchmarks, a website called Phoronix has them. 64-bit is only a tiny bit faster on machines like that, and IMO it's not worth battling with application compatibility.
[18:04] <PSiHo_pAT> ioajmsjm
[18:04] <jking_> but wine does offer a nice alternative to the casual gamer
[18:05] <dimas_> jking would you help me please?
[18:05] <jking_> sure whats up dimas
[18:05] <sikava> hw do i sign up to gaim internet messenger?
[18:05] <fresh_dumbledore> i'll buy a pc with sli mainboard and i will probably upgrade to 4gb ram after a half year
[18:05] <PSiHo_pAT> osnmkaigsn
[18:05] <Odd-rationale> PSiHo_pAT: did you have a question?
[18:05] <dimas_> jking i am trying to access shoutcast server but when i initialize it gove me this...<04/12/08@12:24:09> [main] source thread starting
[18:05] <arvind_khadri> fresh_dumbledore, well i use 1gb ram and amd 64 :)
 [main] opening client socket
 [main] error opening client socket! FATAL ERROR! Some other process is using this port!
[18:05] <PSiHo_pAT> olsjsmss
[18:05] <PSiHo_pAT> nanhasmss,
[18:05] <jking_> what app dimas
[18:06] <PSiHo_pAT> nazvsbha
[18:06] <Odd-rationale> !ops | PSiHo_pAT
[18:06] <ubotu> PSiHo_pAT: Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti, mneptok, Pici, Jack_Sparrow, nickrud, jpatrick or jussi01!
[18:06] <Dinasty> jking> I wouldnt mind running a windows machine specificly meant for gaming
[18:06] <fraroco> how can I format a NTFS to Linux format?
[18:06] <PSiHo_pAT> olajamajmc
[18:06] <jking_> dinasty i can appreciate that
[18:06] <fresh_dumbledore> will 64bit be better for wine if I upgrade to 4gb RAM?
[18:06] <arvind_khadri> fresh_dumbledore,  hmm
[18:06] <sikava> am tryn conecting to gaim internet bt no sucess
[18:06] <Dinasty> fraroco> just pop in the Ubuntu disk
[18:06] <jking_> dimas what application are you running?
[18:07] <jking_> that is giving that error
[18:07] <arvind_khadri> sikava, where do u want to connect
[18:07] <sikava> to the chat
[18:07] <beast> can anyone tell a name of .fla editor in ubuntu
[18:07] <tomd123> fraroco, in the install cd, it automatically does this for you, just select one of the guided partitioning settings
[18:07] <abom> #linuxac
[18:07] <RyanPrior> fresh_dumbledore: when you upgrade to 4GB, only 3.2GB will be available to a 32-bit OS, so if you want that last 0.8GB you'll need to use 64-bit.
[18:07] <sikava> hw do i sign up 4 it
[18:07] <dimas_> jking i want to find out what is using my client socket....look...trying to run shoutcast server...means trying to access it...<04/12/08@12:24:09> [main] source thread starting
 [main] opening client socket
 [main] error opening client socket! FATAL ERROR! Some other process is using this port!
[18:08] <tomd123> fraroco: make sure to make a back up of all your important files, ie, photos, music because everything will be deleted when you formate
[18:08] <arvind_khadri> sikava, which chat??
[18:08] <fraroco> Dinasty, I have two HD in the computer. The fist have the system ubuntu and the second one has the format NTFS.
[18:08] <jking_> not familiar with shoutcast server but wait a few seconds I will get some info
[18:08] <shanepardue> How would I setup grub if my grub install can't find stage1 on any partition?
[18:08] <beast> hello, can anyone tell a name of .fla editor in ubuntu??
[18:08] <sikava> gaim internet messenger
[18:08] <RyanPrior> fresh_dumbledore: If you want to start using 64-bit now to get used to dealing with occasional application incompatibilities, it might save you headache later.
[18:09] <arvind_khadri> sikava, yahoo,jabber or what?? and please take a name out
[18:09] <fidelio> hi everybody
[18:09] <arvind_khadri> fidelio, hi
[18:09] <sikava> hlp
[18:09] <jking_> dimas what shoutcast server are you running
[18:09] <Dinasty> fraroco, it all comes down to preferences, I would use ubuntu for doing work and travel, and a windows for home gaming
[18:09] <fidelio> any easy way to upgrade 6.06?
[18:09] <IndyGunFreak> lol, whyd o people still 6.06?
[18:09] <arvind_khadri> sikava, if u dont tell whats your prb exactly how can we help
[18:09] <fresh_dumbledore> I don't want to start using 64bit now because right now I don't have the pc with 64bit support but I will get one in some months
[18:10] <arvind_khadri> fidelio, 6.06 from which versiom??
[18:10] <IndyGunFreak> arvind_khadri: i don't think he knows his problem
[18:10] <sikava>  INEED TO GO TO CHAT
[18:10] <fidelio> i have 6.06
[18:10] <arvind_khadri> IndyGunFreak, that guy is irritating
[18:10] <fidelio> lts
[18:10] <jking_> sikiva no need to yell
[18:10] <IndyGunFreak> indeed.
[18:10] <IndyGunFreak> sikava: did you look in Pidgin like we said?
[18:10] <MattJ> sikava: What chat? where?
[18:10] <Gibb> Whats the command to dump the contents of a small file to the command prompt like the "type" command in dos?
[18:10] <Dinasty> fresh_dumbledor, you wait for some months, some months after you waited they'll alway be making something better
[18:10] <arvind_khadri> fidelo u want to upgrade to which version
[18:10] <MattJ> sikava: There are lots of 'chat's
[18:10] <fidelio> the most stable
[18:10] <jking_> cat Gibb
[18:11] <jking_> cat <filename>
[18:11] <fidelio> need to be easy though
[18:11] <arvind_khadri> fidelio, sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[18:11] <dimas_> jking sc_serv_1.9.8_Linux.tar.gz and got it from this stream...http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=488602
[18:11] <IndyGunFreak> fidelio: you'll have to go to 6.06, then 6.10, then 7.04, then 7.10  this will take hours nedless to say
[18:11] <dimas_> jking last post in mine
[18:11] <xhaleor> fidelio try sudo update-manager -d in the terminal
[18:11] <jking_> thanks dimas looking now
[18:11] <arvind_khadri> fidelio, the best way is to a cd
[18:11] <fidelio> any easy alternatives live cd?
[18:12] <arvind_khadri> fidelio, the most stable would be 7.04
[18:12] <IndyGunFreak> fidelio: you should probably wait till Hardy comes out later this month, cuz then you'll be able to go from Dapper directly to Hardy
[18:12] <fraroco> Dinasty I've installed the VMware for home gaming I do just not need windows for anything else. But I do not want to have the format NTFS...
[18:12] <IndyGunFreak> rather than hitting all the distros in between
[18:12] <arvind_khadri> fidelio, yeah thats what get cd's for 7.04
[18:12] <foxynet> bonjoiur
[18:12] <arvind_khadri> IndyGunFreak, there is no direct path
[18:12] <beast> Hello, can anyone tell a name of .fla editor in ubuntu???
[18:12] <J-Unit> does any1 no a site that has 100% free 1680x1050 halo 3 and/or half-life 2 wallppapers?
[18:12] <gatestone> Best torrent client?
[18:13] <IndyGunFreak> arvind_khadri: betwen the LTS distros there is
[18:13] <fidelio> later this month for hardy?
[18:13] <MattJ> fidelio: The 24th
[18:13] <raven478> flash or action script is not supported in ubuntu
[18:13] <jking_> dimas in the config file do you have source and client set at different ports or the same
[18:13] <IndyGunFreak> fidelio: the next version of Ubuntu.. 8.04
[18:13] <arvind_khadri> IndyGunFreak, i heard lots of ppl sayin no for that
[18:13] <Dinasty> fraroco your right windows is useless to me other than playing games
[18:13] <IndyGunFreak> arvind_khadri: to my knowldge, you can go from one LTS version, to another
[18:13] <foxynet> #france
[18:13] <fidelio> well, then it is worth to wait...thanks all
[18:13] <Gibb> jking_, thank you
[18:13] <IndyGunFreak> but you can't go from say, 6.10 to 8.04
[18:13] <arvind_khadri> !hardy > fidelio
[18:13] <jking_> no problem Gibb
[18:13] <IndyGunFreak> you have to be using the LTS version
[18:14] <arvind_khadri> IndyGunFreak, hmm
[18:14] <IndyGunFreak> 6.06 to 8.04, should go fine
[18:14] <jking_> Dimas: the config file is sc_serv.conf
[18:14] <IndyGunFreak> but you couldn't 6.10 to 8.04 or 6.10 to 8.04
[18:14] <foxynet> #mandriva
[18:14] <dimas_> jking you talking about the text file...sc_serv.conf?
[18:14] <jking_> dimas: yes
[18:14] <neil> hi, can someone help me with a problem i am having installing my NVIDIA GFX card please, restricted drivers DOESN'T work
[18:15] <jking_> can you use pastebin and copy the contents of the sc_serv.conf to it
[18:15] <J-Unit> neil, did u use envy?
[18:15] <xhaleor> neil - try Envy installer -google it
[18:15] <dimas_> jking so those will be the parameters to run it then?
[18:15] <jking_> dimas that is correct
[18:15] <didy> once again whats the url for ntfs???
[18:15] <neil> the problem is the driver is clashing with something
[18:15] <jking_> you can change the port to what ever port you wish
[18:15] <RyanPrior> !envy
[18:15] <ubotu> envy is an unsupported tool to install newer versions of binary video drivers than provided by the official repositories. Use at your own risk, and remember that the latest version is not necessarily the "best". See « /msg ubotu binarydriver »
[18:15] <J-Unit> didy, ntfs-3g is not a url its an app to install thru synaptic
[18:16] <arvind_khadri> !ntfs-3g >didy
[18:16] <tim__b> hey folks, is there a text editor able to perform justification on a simple text file (for a fixed with, for example 80 signs)?
[18:16] <dimas_> jking so do i have to set password and everything there then?
[18:16] <IndyGunFreak> RyanPrior: speaking of, did you see Automatix finally died its painful death
[18:16] <symptom> how is ubuntu with widescreen monitors?
[18:16] <RyanPrior> tim__b: What exactly are you looking for?
[18:16] <jking_> i don't know about password but most config setting will exist there in sc_serv.conf
[18:16] <J-Unit> tim__b, simple text files can be edited using openoffice or u can open gedit using terminal
[18:16] <dimas_> jking thanks i will have a look
[18:16] <xhaleor> fine on my 22" Viewsonic at 1680 x 1050
[18:16] <beast> HELLO, can anyone tell a name of .fla editor in ubuntu ?
[18:16] <Scunizi> symptom, fine.. do you mean 42" or smaller
[18:17] <jking_> ubuntu is cool guy and doesn't afraid of anything
[18:17] <didy> once again whats the url for ntfs???
[18:17] <RyanPrior> IndyGunFreak: Actually that was a joke. APT is being replaced by Automatix for Ubuntu 8.10 Intrepid.
[18:17] <PSiHo_pAT> olajama
[18:17] <arvind_khadri> !patience > beast
[18:17] <IndyGunFreak> didy: http://ntfs.com
[18:17] <symptom> Scunizi, I mean like 19-22"
[18:17] <symptom> hehe
[18:17] <PSiHo_pAT> mkamaka,
[18:17] <dimas_> jking thanks i thought that was just a text info file
[18:17] <symptom> ty xhaleor
[18:17] <shachaf> didy: http://google.com/search?q=ntfs ?
[18:17] <PSiHo_pAT> hahahahahahaha
[18:17] <funner> hey can someone help with encrypting files?
[18:17] <jking_> no problem dimas
[18:17] <xhaleor> welcome
[18:17] <funner> I'm using GnuPG
[18:17] <arvind_khadri> !ntfs-3g | didy
[18:17] <ubotu> didy: ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[18:17] <IndyGunFreak> RyanPrior: youc an't be serious
[18:17] <tim__b> i got several lines of simple text (.txt) which i want to set justification on, meaning, putting some extra spaces in to make the text look like in justification mode
[18:17] <Scunizi> symptom, no problem.. also depends on your card.. nvidia ati etc.. and the memory it has.. most stuff in the last several years works fine.
[18:17] <PSiHo_pAT> hantsuazmkmlopa
[18:17] <arvind_khadri> RyanPrior, yeah dont say that apt is going to be removed
[18:18] <Odd-rationale> PSiHo_pAT: If you have a question, please aks. Dont spam the channel
[18:18] <symptom> Scunizi, thank you
[18:18] <IndyGunFreak> i thought LJL kaboshed him earlier
[18:18] <arvind_khadri> Odd-rationale, why dont you set a ban on him
[18:18] <PSiHo_pAT> nakisju7snsj
[18:18] <shachaf> tim__b: sed 's/^/    /' ?
[18:18] <Odd-rationale> arvind_khadri: I can't :)
[18:18] <LjL> IndyGunFreak: no, he was muted and i wasn't involved
[18:18] <IndyGunFreak> LjL: oh  my bad..
[18:18] <arvind_khadri> Odd-rationale, ask someone who can..where are the moderators??
[18:18] <Scunizi> IndyGunFreak, his nick makes me think he's from indonesia
[18:18] <IndyGunFreak> wel lhe needs to be gagged and given cement shoes and tossed in a river.
[18:19] <PSiHo_pAT> maploikoausjhs
[18:19] <Odd-rationale> arvind_khadri: there around... somewhere.
[18:19] <PSiHo_pAT> nasnha    abnh
[18:19] <arvind_khadri> IndyGunFreak, hey was RyanPrior serious about apt??
[18:19] <IndyGunFreak> arvind_khadri: lol, id on't think so.
[18:19] <funner> I was wondering how I could store my key on a usb key (i don't intend to share it with anyone) and then when I want to decrypt those files on the drive just use that plus a pass phrase.
[18:19] <IndyGunFreak> arvind_khadri: automatix is switching to some other distribution where they won't get their feelings hurt because the community tells them the truth
[18:19] <intelli> How do I create a command in the terminal? Like, I just want to type something instead of having to CD to a directory, then typing ./program or whatever.
[18:19] <PSiHo_pAT> nasbhanka
[18:19] <intelli> I can't recall how.
[18:20] <arvind_khadri> !automatix
[18:20] <ubotu> Automatix is no longer developed or supported by its creators and is not recommended, supported or needed by Ubuntu. See http://mjg59.livejournal.com/77440.html and « /msg ubotu WorksForMe »
[18:20] <jking_> intelli alias will allow that
[18:20] <funner> should I just create a simlink from the standard keyring location or is there a better way?
[18:20] <tim__b> shachaf, thanks, but that doesn't seem to work :(
[18:20] <IndyGunFreak> Intrepid iba?.l. what the.. who came up with that
[18:20] <jking_> alias cmd='actual long command with options and stuff'
[18:20] <tim__b> shachaf, it only adds four spaces in front of each line
[18:20] <RyanPrior> IndyGunFreak: Intrepid Ibex. Probably SABDFL.
[18:20] <fresh_dumbledore> it I install 8.04 32bit would it be possible to upgrade later to 8.10 64bit?
[18:20] <shachaf> tim__b: I'm not sure what you're trying to do, exactly.
[18:21] <IndyGunFreak> RyanPrior: thats horrible..lol
[18:21] <RyanPrior> IndyGunFreak: an Ibex is like a Gnu. :-)
[18:21] <arvind_khadri> intelli, u can use alias
[18:21] <tim__b> shachaf, may i query you?
[18:21] <jking_> dumbledore I believe it will need to be a fresh install
[18:21] <IndyGunFreak> RyanPrior: i used to drive an Intrepid..lol
[18:21] <RyanPrior> fresh_dumbledore: You would need to back up your files and reinstall.
[18:21] <arvind_khadri> intelli, but dont know how to change that ./ thing
[18:21] <beast> can anyone tell a name of .fla editor in ubuntu?
[18:21] <jking_> intelli: said this before but alias cmd='actual long command with options and stuff
[18:22] <RyanPrior> beast: As far as I know, there aren't any good flash movie editors for Linux.
[18:22] <arvind_khadri> beast no one knows the answer why dont u google it
[18:22] <jking_> intelli are you refering to a bash script or something
[18:22] <jking_> ./script.sh
[18:22] <intelli> I guess alias will work, but what are the parameters I need?
[18:23] <intelli> I just want a word to run a program in a certain location.
[18:23] <jking_> intelli: to many parameters to your ambiguous question
[18:23] <lucas2> hey. does anybody know how I can revert the config file /etc/xen/xend-config.sxp  to how it was when the I installed xen?   I am assuming I should re-aptget the package, but I don't know how to find out what package that file comes form..
[18:23] <jking_> !alias
[18:23] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about alias - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[18:23] <fraroco> how can I format a NTFS to Linux format?
[18:23] <intelli> Like, I just want to type something instead of having to CD to a directory, then typing ./program or whatever.
[18:23] <arvind_khadri> intelli, use man alias\
[18:24] <Odd-rationale> fraroco: use gparted. Beware! it will erase all data on the partition
[18:24] <jking_> ^^^ exactly
[18:24] <didy> what's the best universal best of all codec for ubuntu??
[18:24] <intelli> I have no man entry for alias.
[18:24] <cchild> does any know how to read a luks/dm-crypt drive in windows
[18:24] <arvind_khadri> intelli, use alias --help
[18:24] <Kodeart> how can i restore or fix the screen resolution with the terminal? i just changed from 11xx-xxx (?!) to 1024-768 and the screen is not really good :)
[18:24] <^vincy^> Ciao a tutti!!!
[18:24] <grnmtn> can help me with a USB hard drive mounting problem? I have a HD formatted for FAT32, and it won't mount - the dmesg output is here: http://pastebin.com/m681156fc
[18:24] <didy> what's the best universal best of all codec for ubuntu??
[18:24] <ompaul> !it | ^vincy^
[18:24] <ubotu> ^vincy^: Vai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[18:25] <intelli> arvind_khadri, doesn't work.
[18:25] <ompaul> !codecs | didy (no best one)
[18:25] <ubotu> didy (no best one): For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[18:25] <user1> is there a v goog gui for system stats. that tells all about cpu... ALL i mean. or max one can think off.?
[18:25] <gatestone> A wish: gtk should implement this little-know gem of a feture from Microsoft: if you double click between column headers in a list like window, it will automatically fit the left side column width.
[18:25] <yedday> hi all... using pidgen (chat protocols software) when writing messages, my box where my text is, moves around all the time I write *g
[18:25] <Odd-rationale> Kodeart: to reconfigure your xserver try: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[18:25] <grnmtn> it mounts fine in OSX
[18:25] <arvind_khadri> intelli, the format is alias <alias name>='<command name>
[18:25] <cjsstables> Hey all.  anyone familiar with getting an Ubuntu Client to join an SME Server domain?
[18:25] <Kodeart> thanks Odd-rationale
[18:26] <cjsstables> I have googled all over for instructions but can'tfind a thing
[18:26] <intelli> Um, if this is a command for renaming a command something else, it is not what I want.
[18:26] <arvind_khadri> yedday u mean it gets shrinked or something??
[18:26] <jking_> intelli: so you want a script to run a series of commands?
[18:26] <arcsky> how can i install silicon image raid drivers ?
[18:26] <arvind_khadri> intelli, well this is the only way in Linux to rename a comman
[18:26] <intelli> I don't want to rename another command. I want to RUN a program that is located on my hard drive without having to CD to the directory and typing ./program-name.
[18:26] <arvind_khadri> !raid > arcsky
[18:27] <jking_> intelli: type echo $PATH
[18:27] <cchild> does any know how to read a usb luks/dm-crypt drive in windows
[18:27] <tylerflick> Anyone had trouble with ati drivers in Hardy today? Compiz went bizzurk this morning
[18:27] <grnmtn> anyone?
[18:28] <ompaul> !hardy | tylerflick
[18:28] <ubotu> tylerflick: Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 24, 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - CONSIDER IT TO BE BETA SOFTWARE - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[18:28] <eu> How can install the client vpn nortel?
[18:28] <arvind_khadri> !hardy > tylerflick
[18:28] <Scunizi> tylerflick, they've been talking about that and wireless in #ubuntu+1 all morning.. go ther.
[18:28] <intelli> Why?
[18:28] <arvind_khadri> intelli, what do u mean why
[18:28] <user1> is there a v goog gui for system stats. that tells all about cpu... ALL i mean. or max one can think off.? like cpu. ram, hardisk etc..
[18:29] <intelli> Why type echo $PATH?
[18:29] <Odd-rationale> cchild: see the bottom of this page: http://www.saout.de/tikiwiki/tiki-index.php?page=LUKS
[18:29] <grnmtn> does anyone have suggestion for troubleshooting errors reading a external hard drive partition table?
[18:29] <kitty13kitty> intelli echo is a command that will just output your command, so if you're using variables, you can tell what they are
[18:29] <jking_> generally a command needs to exist in your path to be executable from anywhere
[18:30] <eu> Someone knows how to install apani in ubuntu?
[18:30] <arvind_khadri> intelli, jking_  is right
[18:30] <cchild> Odd-rationale, thanks
[18:30] <arvind_khadri> eu, whats that
[18:30] <intelli> I remember doing this once, and it was very easy. I am trying to run the game ADOM from the terminal by simply typing adom instead of CDing to the directory and typing ./adom.
[18:30] <christian__> was ist das hier?
[18:30] <iscariote> fgdf
[18:30] <ompaul> !de | christian__
[18:30] <ubotu> christian__: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[18:31] <rausb0> christian__: this channel is english only
[18:31] <arvind_khadri> intelli, set the executable for adom and jus run it
[18:31] <self_up> i kann ein bisschen deutch aber...
[18:31] <ompaul> rausb0, normally we reply with !country-code and then if person continues say what you said ;-) and then act on it
[18:31] <intelli> What does that mean?
[18:31] <arvind_khadri> intelli, chmod +x
[18:31] <RainMakesMeWet> intelli: chmod +X
[18:31] <eu> arvind_khadri > Apani actually is the name of the company that developed a vpn client to connect as conectivity of nortel no windows
[18:32] <cchild> Odd-rationale, what i have i go to school and this program is not installed in the system?
[18:32] <RainMakesMeWet> intelli: chmod +x adom
[18:32] <intelli> What does that do?
[18:32] <jking_> it sets the app executable
[18:32] <arvind_khadri> intelli it sets ur file to be exeucatable
[18:32] <ompaul> self_up, we don't entertain none english conversations here we get them to move the correct channel ;-)
[18:32] <intelli> Why would I want that/
[18:32] <intelli> ?
[18:32] <Odd-rationale> cchild: so you have a luks encrypted hdd that you want to browse on another computer that you don't own?
[18:32] <arvind_khadri> eu i have no idea about it
[18:32] <rausb0> ompaul: the problem is that !de does not explicitly mention that this channel is english only. other countrycode factoids do that.
[18:33] <self_up> but some of us are multilingual
[18:33] <RainMakesMeWet> so that you can just run it by typing adom and not ./adom
[18:33] <arvind_khadri> intelli as thats the solution for ur prob
[18:33] <unop__> intelli, you'll need to add the directory adom is in to your $PATH if you just want to be able to type 'adom'
[18:33] <cchild> Odd-rationale, yes, usb
[18:33] <ompaul> rausb0, 99% of the time it does not need to
[18:33] <jking_> intelli, cause you asked for a resolution to your problem
[18:33] <arvind_khadri> unop__, please make him understand
[18:33] <rausb0> self_up: ja, ich spreche auch deutsch :)
[18:34] <yedday> this alternative flashplayer gtk gnash.. it doesn't play flash movies at all! youtube i mean... so i switched back to adobe's player... but this sucks. it's in the off repos but doesn't do it's job.
[18:34] <Odd-rationale> cchild: would you be able to boot from usb on the school computer? if so, you can make a 100mb partion and put something like puppylinux on it. Boot puppy and mount you luks encrypted hdd.
[18:34] <unop__> arvind_khadri, i'll wait for him to ask me what that means first - because most times people know what to do and i don't want to be extremely terse in explaining every single step down to perfect detail
[18:34] <intelli> nm, I got alias working.
[18:34] <Odd-rationale> cchild: or you could put puppy on a cd and boot from cd
[18:34] <arvind_khadri> unop__, thats correct
[18:34] <jking_> hooray intelli
[18:35] <cchild> Odd-rationale, system bootable device disabled.
[18:35] <arvind_khadri> jking_, he doesnt know what he wants
[18:35] <jking_> yeah i figured
[18:35] <Odd-rationale> cchild: your pretty much out of luck then...
[18:36] <ShiroUsagi> Hi, could anyone help me with setting route tables? I have two ubuntu-machines connected via a netgear switch. Both have tun/tap set up for guest systems in virtualbox. And both can`t see each other by local ip.
[18:36] <user1> is there a v goog gui for system stats. that tells all about cpu... ALL i mean. or max one can think off.? like cpu. ram, hardisk etc..
[18:36] <symptom> anyone know how to set up dual monitors with hardy?
[18:36] <cchild> Odd-rationale, i figured.
[18:36] <self_up> ShiroUsagi: white rabbit?
[18:36] <intelli> The hell? Alias isn't permanent.
[18:37] <RainMakesMeWet> user, have you added the system monitor applet to the task bar and used that
[18:37] <user1> symptom why do you need dual moniters
[18:37] <arvind_khadri> user1, lshw
[18:37] <self_up> intelli: you mean alias for irssi you mean? or something else
[18:37] <ShiroUsagi> self_up, Hare actually, but there`s no difference in Japanese.
[18:37] <cchild> Odd-rationale, i was going to use treucrypt for  the usb drive, but also requires admin right to run
[18:37] <eu> Someone knows install apani vpn client
[18:37] <self_up> so des ne
[18:37] <eu> Someone knows install apani vpn client?
[18:38] <symptom> user1, it works well when multitasking
[18:38] <Odd-rationale> cchild: you can boot puppy or dsl inside of windows using qemu. but i'm not sure that you'll be able to access external usb device. Maybe someone can confirm? Can you mount external hardware in qemu?
[18:38] <symptom> user1, I dont NEED it, its a nice to have
[18:38] <user1> arvind_khadri i need real time statss. cpu. ram . hd .etc
[18:38] <user1> symptom hmm. what multitaske you perform (just asking. i never did it)
[18:39] <intelli> How do I make an alias command permanent?
[18:39] <jking_> add it to the .bashrc file
[18:39] <Ultraputz> is it possible to get rid of the display of categories in the buddy list of pidgin and just have all the entries together, unsorted?
[18:39] <Orbixx> Does anyone know of a way I can install Ubuntu from a Windows environment and have the Ubuntu installer completely remove any Windows partition and fully install itself?
[18:40] <Orbixx> Kind of like.
[18:40] <arvind_khadri> intelli, u cant make it permanent
[18:40] <symptom> user1, when you want to have multiple text files open at once and be able to view them both in full screen.  Basically When you need full screen for one thing, but have to have antother window open, instead of adjusting each window to fit just right you just drag one over
[18:40] <Orbixx> Copy itself into the hard disk as bootable.
[18:40] <dimas_> jking i going to private message you my configuration file is that ok?
[18:40] <Orbixx> And install itself.
[18:40] <jking_> dimas ok
[18:40] <ompaul> Orbixx, you start with a blank CD and then install it from that
[18:40] <LjL> dimas_: why don't you use the pastebin?
[18:40] <cchild> Odd-rationale, does qemu have to be installed in windows to use or can be run from cd
[18:40] <jking_> that would work do dimas
[18:40] <Orbixx> ompaul: Imagine I have no optical drive.
[18:40] <dimas_> dont know what is that
[18:40] <Odd-rationale> cchild: no.
[18:40] <LjL> !pastebin > dimas_    (dimas_, see the private message from Ubotu)
[18:40] <ompaul> !install | Orbixx
[18:40] <ubotu> Orbixx: Ubuntu can be installed in a lot of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall. Don't want to use a CD? Try http://tinyurl.com/3exghs - See also !automate
[18:41] <Odd-rationale> cchild: you would just run an exe which does not require admin rights.
[18:41] <Orbixx> !automate
[18:41] <ubotu> Ways to automate installation of Ubuntu on multiple machines are described at https://help.ubuntu.com/6.10/ubuntu/installation-guide/i386/automatic-install.html - See also !cloning
[18:41] <ritalin> ubuntu overrides anything i add to my xorg.conf for DPS :(
[18:41] <ritalin> wat can i doo?
[18:41] <Odd-rationale> cchild: it won't install or affect the host machine in anyway
[18:41] <Odd-rationale> cchild: http://www.erikveen.dds.nl/qemupuppy/
[18:42] <cchild> Odd-rationale, this could work
[18:42] <amenado> ritalin-> are you sure? try to completely logout or maybe even shutdown to test?
[18:42] <ritalin> i did
[18:42] <jochmenDS> does kvm have an gui frontend and what can i virtualize?
[18:42] <cchild> Odd-rationale, basic have 2 partition on the usb drive, one with qemu/puppy and the other, luks
[18:43] <arvind_khadri> intelli, u'll need to do shell scripting for tat
[18:43] <jking_> arvind if he adds the line to .bashrc it will be permanent
[18:43] <Odd-rationale> cchild: correct.
[18:43] <ritalin> pretty annoying, I dont wanna use xfce as my wm(im on xubuntu) but my screen wont blank
[18:43] <Odd-rationale> cchild: the one with qemu/puppy should be vfat
[18:44] <gurpreet> which one is the real wireless interface? wifi0 or ath0?
[18:44] <cchild> Odd-rationale, i think you just answered my problem. but i have to figure out if qemu will be able to mount the usb drive/partition
[18:44] <dubphil> after many investigations : server (debain etch the internet forwarder) 3 interfaces eth0 -> computer 1 eth1 -> computer 2 eth2 -> internet  (IPTABLES script with strictly same rules for eth0 and eth1) a big file copied over the network from the server to the computer 2 has a good speed (about 20Mb/s) the same bigfile copied from server to computer 1 is slow less than 1 Mb/s (scp, nfs and http protocols have been used), a big file copied from Internet and c
[18:45] <Odd-rationale> cchild: I'd be interested in trying this myself... why don't you /join #Odd-rationale and we'll discuss it in more detials. afterall, were no longer talking about ubuntu in particualr... :)
[18:47] <cchild> Odd-rationale, am not registered
[18:48] <Odd-rationale> cchild: you still should be able to join channel #Odd-rationale
[18:48] <capiCrimm> t1n0m3n, no I mean the desktop launcher icons size. The OS does scale them like normal icons.
[18:48] <Odd-rationale> cchild: It is not a pm. just different channel
[18:48] <capiCrimm> how can I have the system control a launcher icons size?
[18:49] <rhaven_> hi
[18:49] <jking_> hi
[18:49] <danny1> hello
[18:50] <dtolj> hi
[18:50] <rhaven_> i was wondering where the options are for enabling disabling the boot animation is
[18:50] <Clinteger> I've downloaded Ubuntu, but I'm wondering how I can convert this iso to a DVD iso so I can burn it to a DVD+RW. This seems rather trivial, but when I burnt it previously using ImgBurn [i'm on XP], it didn't seem to burn the boot data.
[18:50] <dimas_> jking you got it?
[18:50] <dimas_> jking i posted on pastebin
[18:51] <sp3> hello
[18:51] <user1> An error occurred while enabling /media/cdrom.
[18:51] <user1> The system reported: mount: special device <device> does not existn
[18:51] <jking_> dimas i need the url to the pastebin
[18:51] <jking_> please
[18:51] <dimas_> jking http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/62955/
[18:52] <[newbie]> HI ALL!
[18:52] <dtolj> user1: when did this error occur, where you trying to mount your CD
[18:52] <jking_> looking now dimas
[18:52] <NoiZ> hi from russian proggers!
[18:52] <user1> ya
[18:52] <dimas_> jking thanks
[18:52] <_CrasH_> RUSSIA )
[18:52] <ritalin> comrade NoiZ
[18:52] <self_up> hi ruskies
[18:52] <ritalin> salute
[18:52] <_CrasH_> Nasha RASHA
[18:52] <user1> dtolj i inserted cd. it was not auto mounted as before. i manully tried. and the eror came
[18:52] <self_up> thanks for nginx, btw
[18:53] <NoiZ> ritalin: where ar u from?
[18:53] <_CrasH_> What feature here occurs?
[18:53] <user1> An error occurred while enabling /media/cdrom.
[18:53] <dtolj> user1: try as root, mount /dev/cdrom <cdrom>
[18:53] <user1> The system reported: mount: special device <device> does not exist  i inserted cd. it was not auto mounted as before. i manully tried. and the eror camee
[18:53] <user1> k
[18:53] <self_up> _CrasH_: what?
[18:54] <dtolj> user1: check that /dev/cdrom exists in case u dont have it might be something else
[18:54] <user1> dtolj i gtg. power failuer
[18:54] <jking_> dimas try changing PortBase=8000 to PortBase=8080
[18:54] <jking_> and restart
[18:55] <dimas_> jking ok
[18:56] <bo-dick> question, must i install anything on vista before i can mount it from ubuntu over network?
[18:57] <ritalin> vista is evil
[18:57] <dimas_> jking yess
[18:57] <Pirate_Hunter> how do i make a script autostart on boot, i added it to session but it seems not be working, can someone tell me what i have to do?
[18:57] <dimas_> jking thank you
[18:57] <jking_> my pleasure dimas
[18:58] <unop> !repositories > unop
[18:58] <capiCrimm> bo-dick, no. Ubuntu will pretend to be a windows comp when talking to vista
[18:59] <blue-frog> Pirate_Hunter: on boot or when you log in?
[18:59] <capiCrimm> bo-dick, rather then making vista act like linux
[18:59] <bo-dick> capiCrimm: i'm having problems
[18:59] <Pirate_Hunter> blue-frog: when i log in
[18:59] <mats_> I installed Firestarter it does not start wheen booting
[18:59] <capiCrimm> Pirate_Hunter, a bash script work?
[18:59] <blue-frog> Pirate_Hunter: is your script running if you launch it by hand now?
[19:00] <bo-dick> capiCrimm: do you have any recommended methods?
[19:00] <Pirate_Hunter> blue-frog: havent tried running it by hand but should work
[19:00] <Pirate_Hunter> capiCrimm: yup
[19:00] <capiCrimm> bo-dick, what exactly is the problem
[19:00] <bo-dick> capiCrimm: i get permission denied
[19:00] <blue-frog> Pirate_Hunter: come back when you know it works
[19:01] <bo-dick> capiCrimm: maybe the target drive must be password protected
[19:01] <sharperguy> is there an equivilent of <alt>+171 for getting a half symbol in ubuntu like you get in windows?
[19:01] <danand_> mats_ - firestarter will not start until the interface is up. don't know why but firestarter startup scripts seem to get called before the network interfaces are properly configured
[19:01] <max_> how to change the aspect of windows titlebar?
[19:01] <capiCrimm> Pirate_Hunter, there are a couple of them, so let me look and find the correct one. You only want this for a single users login, right? not global
[19:01] <capiCrimm> bo-dick, possible. You've shared the file on Vista, right?
[19:02] <max_> now i have  transparent/image
[19:02] <bo-dick> capiCrimm: yup
[19:02] <Pirate_Hunter> capiCrimm: ive got a script to run conky after 30secs but i need it to run on log in how do i do that, do you know
[19:02] <bo-dick> capiCrimm: i've shared the whole c drive
[19:02] <Pirate_Hunter> blue-frog: ive got a script to run conky after 30secs but i need it to run on log in how do i do that, do you know
[19:02] <dmsuperman> does anyone know of a good data recovery software?
[19:02] <capiCrimm> Pirate_Hunter, the quickest way is putting running it in ~/.profile
[19:03] <blue-frog> Pirate_Hunter: does it work when you launch it by hand?
[19:03] <kitty13kitty> dmsuperman define "recovery"
[19:03] <capiCrimm> Pirate_Hunter, however I'm not sure that's the most proper
[19:03] <dmsuperman> meaning: i had an ntfs partition. i was told i needed to make it ext3, so i copied the entire thing onto another drive, and overwrote the partition with an ext3 and copied back. now some of the files are missing and one of them is crucial to a job i've been working on for months
[19:03] <capiCrimm> Pirate_Hunter, and I'm not sure that launches at startup of the GUI
[19:03] <Pirate_Hunter> blue-frog: dont know i had to move it from /etc/conky cause i ahve no permission there and now im waiting to see if it will run conky in 30secs
[19:04] <Pirate_Hunter> blue-frog: however could you tell me how to run scripts at login?
[19:04] <capiCrimm> bo-dick, can you ping the vista box?
[19:04] <eTranquility> Hi, I'm having some problems with media codecs.... I think. Anytime I try to play an avi or wmv all I get is colored vertical lines, and most radio streams aren't working. I can't figure out what I'm missing.
[19:04] <blue-frog> Pirate_Hunter: why would you move it? run the command you entreed in the session window and see what it does
[19:04] <Pirate_Hunter> capiCrimm: didnt know that i had to keep it in my profile just learnt that now but once i do that what do i do to make it run
[19:05] <blue-frog> Pirate_Hunter: system/pref/session
[19:05] <bo-dick> capiCrimm: doesn't appear to work
[19:05] <bo-dick> capiCrimm: i pinged this machine from vista though
[19:05] <capiCrimm> Pirate_Hunter, you don't keep it in there. You just run the file from there.
[19:05] <Pirate_Hunter> blue-frog: the script does work from my home but not from /etc/conky so that might be the problem will check on next boot to see if im correct
[19:05] <capiCrimm> bo-dick, that's probably your problem. What's your network like?
[19:06] <dmsuperman> kitty13kitty, like in windows i had this app called Get Data Back, and it could find partitions several layers old
[19:06] <bo-dick> capiCrimm: this machine and the vista are hooked to a router
[19:06] <dtolj> Pirate_Hunter: create a hidden file in ~/.xinitrc and call the script from there, should start when X starts.
[19:06] <kitty13kitty> i havn't been able to recover a partition's data since I started formatting 0 filled :D
[19:07] <shiv> Hi. I dont know if this is the right channel, but how can I check if AGP Sidebanding is enabled. The GUP is a geforce fx go5200
[19:07] <shiv> GPU*
[19:07] <capiCrimm> bo-dick, the same router?
[19:07] <bo-dick> capiCrimm: yup
[19:08] <kkerwin> Hi. I'm having difficulty finding an up-to-date guide for setting up beryl on my fglrx card. It seems that the technology and the setup has been changing. Thanks in advance.
[19:08] <Pirate_Hunter> dtolj: that folder dont exist in my system (of course that doesnt mean i couldnt create it) im just going to run the script from template since i never used that folder
[19:08] <charles|64> hey guys, is there a game in the repos similar to homeworld?
[19:08] <gurpreet> how can i specify my own shortcuts in gnome?
[19:09] <capiCrimm> bo-dick, hrm. intresting. Assuming you have internet access from both I don't know whats wrong. But for some reason they can't see the other computer exists
[19:09] <dtolj> Pirate_Hunter: .xinitrc is a file sorry
[19:09] <bo-dick> capiCrimm: i've found out it's a firewall issue
[19:09] <capiCrimm> bo-dick, firewall. Ah, forgot about those things
[19:11] <rinaldi_> how can i mount a .mdf cd image file? gmountiso won't do it
[19:11] <capiCrimm> Pirate_Hunter, another option is symlinking the exec to /etc/X11/Xsession.d/ but depending on what you need that might be overkill
[19:12] <Pirate_Hunter> dtolj: you mean type the path to the script and run .xinitrc from session, is that what you mean
[19:12] <CyberCod> I need help setting up a dhcp server to share a net connection
[19:12] <eth01> evening
[19:13] <Pirate_Hunter> capiCrimm: no need to symlink its a simple script only 1-2 lines no need to create symlink
[19:13] <gurpreet> how can i define my own setups in gnome?
[19:13] <Pirate_Hunter> eth01: 'ello
[19:13] <gurpreet> my own shortcuts*
[19:13] <capiCrimm> Pirate_Hunter, I'd go with dtolj's suggesting of xinitrc
[19:13] <CyberCod> rinaldi_: acetone might be able to do it
[19:13] <dtolj> Pirate_Hunter: No, you dont have to run it. Its called when you start X, just create the file in your $HOME and add your script in there.
[19:13] <capiCrimm> now that I've seen that
[19:13] <Ollie> Hi
[19:13] <arvind_khadri> gurpreet, System->Prefereces->Keyboard shortcuts
[19:14] <Ollie> Why is Ubuntu so much slower than Windows?
[19:14] <gurpreet> arvind_khadri, that is a fixed list, how can i add my own applications in there?
[19:14] <Pirate_Hunter> dtolj: ok but do i type the full path of the script inside .xinittrc?
[19:14] <arvind_khadri> gurpreet, i couldnt get u....
[19:14] <kkerwin> Ollie: Hmm. Sounds like you are having troubles with Ubuntu, and are new.
[19:14] <Ollie> Well, it is slow!
[19:15] <dtolj> Pirate_Hunter: yes of course
[19:15] <ritalin> ubuntu is teh bestest
[19:15] <eTranquility> Hi, I'm having some problems with media codecs.... I think. Anytime I try to play an avi or wmv all I get is colored vertical lines, and most radio streams aren't working. I can't figure out what I'm missing. How do I make sure I have everything installed?
[19:15] <Ollie> Even opening a text file is slow
[19:15] <capiCrimm> Pirate_Hunter, .xinitrc is just a bash file itself.
[19:15] <kkerwin> Ollie: Ubuntu works fine for me, in terms of speed. It seems like there are some issues specific to you that are causing problems.
[19:15] <kkerwin> Ollie: Are you currently on the live CD?
[19:15] <gurpreet> arvind_khadri, if i want to add a shortcut to open xterm, how can i do that?
[19:15] <bo-dick> capiCrimm: now i can ping the vista machine
[19:15] <dtolj> Ollie: what kind of machine do you have?
[19:16] <Ollie> kkerwin: No. It is installed to HDD.
[19:16] <bo-dick> capiCrimm: now it's time to mount it
[19:16] <Pirate_Hunter> dtolj: np will so, but that file dont exist in my ~/. which is weird or it must be a hardy thing :/
[19:16] <Ollie> Well I have a slow machine, but Windows XP is pretty fast on iy.
[19:16] <gurpreet> in System->Preferences->Keyboard SHortcuts, terminal is fixed to gnome-terminal, i wanna change that to xterm
[19:16] <bo-dick> capiCrimm: any ideas?
[19:16] <arvind_khadri> gurpreet u can use Alt+F2
[19:16] <dtolj> Pirate_Hunter: it usually dosn't you have to create it to add this feature for X window./
[19:16] <gurpreet> arvind_khadri, no, its a workaround
[19:16] <capiCrimm> bo-dick, still doesn't work? You have all ports open?
[19:17] <bo-dick> capiCrimm: i don't even know if i'm doing it right
[19:17] <kkerwin> Ollie: Indeed. I would say that maybe you have too many programs running. Hit ALT-F2, and type terminal.
[19:17] <charles|64> hey guys, is there a game in the repos similar to homeworld?
[19:17] <arvind_khadri> gurpreet, well everyone uses that,and i feel thats the only way to be done till now,or else need to get some shell-scripting done
[19:17] <eternal_p> afternoon all, I just installed VMware Server 2.0, but I cannot log into it..does anyone know what the default username and password is?
[19:17] <Ollie> I have KDE
[19:17] <bo-dick> capiCrimm: with this method "sudo mount //<IP_ADDRESS>/c /media/a-dator"
[19:17] <Pirate_Hunter> dtolj: ok now how do i go about doing this?
[19:17] <dtolj> charles|64: thats what I would like to know :)
[19:17] <bo-dick> capiCrimm: i get permission denied
[19:17] <kkerwin> Ollie: Ok. Type "konsole" instead.
[19:18] <Ollie> Btw how do I run file manager with admin priviledges
[19:18] <kkerwin> Ollie: Me too. Shh. A lot of people here use gnome. :-)
[19:18] <kkerwin> Ollie: "kdesu dolphin"
[19:18] <Ollie> Ok
[19:18] <CyberCod> ollie:  sudo nautilus or gksudo nautilus
[19:18] <dtolj> Pirate_Hunter: nano ~/.xinitrc
[19:18] <htmljunkie> everyone hates gnome
[19:18] <ritalin> gnome is a zionist conspiracy
[19:18] <dtolj> htmljunkie: why?
[19:18] <kkerwin> Ollie: Have you entered "ps aux" in the konsole yet?
[19:18] <charles|64> dtolj: lol yeah it would be nice not to have to pay for Cedega just to get homeworld
[19:18] <gurpreet> arvind_khadri, i worked on fluxbox and kde earlier and in both of them i could add shortcuts to apps of my choice, i am unable to find such an option here
[19:19] <htmljunkie> linus hates gnome
[19:19] <capiCrimm> bo-dick, what type of permission denied? Did you create the media folder?
[19:19] <htmljunkie> thats one reason
[19:19] <Ollie> what command is that?
[19:19] <Beastmasta> Hey guys, quick question. If I download and install the new 8.04 beta on my computer, when it is officially released in 12 days will I have to re-download it for the final release, or will it automatically update without me going to the site and manually downloading the ISOs again?
[19:19] <kkerwin> Ollie: "ps aux" is the command.
[19:19] <bo-dick> capiCrimm: yup
[19:19] <xhaleor> right-click on the desktop --> new app launcher ??
[19:19] <Pirate_Hunter> dtolj: & next time i login it will pick up whatever it is in it also i dont have to be in sudo
[19:19] <Ollie> kkerwin: what does it do?
[19:19] <dtolj> charles|64: last time i checked you can compile it yourself for free
[19:19] <dtolj> charles|64: Cadega that is.
[19:19]  * ritalin likt safgradag nat
[19:19] <capiCrimm> bo-dick, okay. Try this way go to Places->Connect to Server and fill that out
[19:20] <kkerwin> Ollie: It prints out a list of all of the programs that you have running. I'm going to have you cut and paste it on a webpage so that I can figure out what superfulious programs you have running.
[19:20] <arvind_khadri> gurpreet, well gnome doesnt has that option
[19:20] <kkerwin> s/superfulious/superfluous/
[19:20] <dtolj> Pirate_Hunter: correct: http://www.slackbook.org/html/x-window-system-xinitrc.html
[19:20] <gurpreet> yeah now i am sure :)
[19:20] <capiCrimm> bo-dick, and you need smb:///192. I believe
[19:20] <htmljunkie> anything that is easier to use or more windows like carebears will hate or cry about , gnome being easy to use for ppl
[19:20] <Ollie> kkerwin: This is a default Kubuntu install
[19:20] <arvind_khadri> Gnome is better than KDE for sure
[19:20] <Ollie> arvind_khadri: Why?
[19:20] <dtolj> arvind_khadri: i second that/
[19:21] <LjL> !offtopic
[19:21] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[19:21] <LjL> !better
[19:21] <ubotu> Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose, depending on your preferences, features you require, and other factors. Do NOT take polls in the channel. If you insist on getting people's opinions, ask BestBot in #ubuntu-bots.
[19:21] <capiCrimm> bo-dick, or something with smb in it. Forget exactly
[19:21] <xhaleor> correction - right-click and 'Create Launcher...'
[19:21] <arvind_khadri> dtolj, that means u r on my side??
[19:21] <Pirate_Hunter> dtolj: will read that
[19:21] <Beastmasta> If i download the 8.04 beta will it automatically update itself to the final when it is released?
[19:21] <kkerwin> Ollie: When you have the output from the command, "ps aux", go to www.pastebin.com and cut and paste it there.
[19:21] <Seveas> !u | arvind_khadri
[19:21] <ubotu> arvind_khadri: Unless you're Dutch or Flemish, or a government officier, the letter 'U' is not a pronoun.  If you want to be taken more seriously, please bother to type out the extra letters in "you".  The same goes for "are", "why", "because", "anyone", and so on..
[19:21] <dtolj> arvind_khadri: :)
[19:21] <gurpreet> arvind_khadri, i am unable to decide which one is better
[19:21] <bo-dick> capiCrimm: ah, it still wants a password but at least i can see the device
[19:21] <AmyRose> Does PulseAudio support OSS v4? ALSA doesn't work for me and I prefer OSS v4 anyway
[19:21] <Orbixx> Seveas: I completely agree.
[19:21] <LjL> gurpreet, dtolj, please look at the bot triggers above
[19:21] <dtolj> gurpreet: heck just try them both, thats the beauty of OpenSource
[19:21] <arvind_khadri> Ollie i jus feel that Gnome is more loghter has btter effects and stuff than KDe
[19:22] <Seveas> AmyRose, oss is obsolete but supported via pulseaudio helpers
[19:22] <capiCrimm> bo-dick, actually I think smb:/// is what you type in nautilus, but from the term you use smbmount instead of mount.
[19:22] <arvind_khadri> Seveas, sorry
[19:22] <Seveas> AmyRose, I believe the helper is padsp, it probably has a manpage with more info
[19:22] <capiCrimm> bo-dick, if windows is password protected just type in your user password
[19:22] <vix85> hi... a quick question here, how do I unzip a .zip archive on my ubuntu server?
[19:22] <Orbixx> capiCrimm: I think it's one less slash.
[19:22] <kkerwin> Ollie: Yes, I understand that it is the default install, but please cut and paste the output from "ps aux" into www.pastebin.com.
[19:22] <LjL> vix85: sudo apt-get install unzip
[19:22] <Seveas> vix85, unzip filename.zip
[19:22] <capiCrimm> bo-dick, unless you have a guest account I think it will always ask for one
[19:23] <bo-dick> capiCrimm: that's the puzzling thing, afaik vista isn't pw protected atm
[19:23] <Orbixx> vix85: unzip
[19:23] <vix85> ok thnx guys :)
[19:23] <capiCrimm> Orbixx, for what?
[19:23] <AmyRose> Seveas: I am not referring to the ancient version in the kernel. I'm referring to the newest from opensound.com
[19:23] <kkerwin> Ollie: Once you submit it, send me the URL that it gives you, and I will be able to look at what programs you have running.
[19:23] <Ollie> kkerwin: how do I copy such a long list?
[19:23] <Orbixx> capiCrimm: smb://
[19:23] <kkerwin> Ollie: Same as in Windows. Highlight the whole output with your mouse. Right-click. Then select "copy", and go from there.
[19:24] <Seveas> AmyRose, the only supported audio subsystems on modern linux distributions are alsa and more recently pulseaudio
[19:24] <capiCrimm> Orbixx, perhaps. I thought you used three, although I don't use windows so can't check
[19:24] <Odd-rationale> what number is for fat32? (82 --> ext3)
[19:24] <Seveas> hence, oss is obsolete, new version or not :)
[19:24] <kelledin> ah, well, it's nice to know what's going on with my motherboard finally.
[19:24] <AmyRose> Seveas: Then FreeBSD is obsolete too.
[19:24] <eTranquility> Hi, I'm having some problems with media codecs.... I think. Anytime I try to play an avi or wmv all I get is colored vertical lines, and most radio streams aren't working. I can't figure out what I'm missing. I've tried using Automatix but it hasn't helped.
[19:24] <Seveas> AmyRose, sorry, I meant obsolete *on linux* :)
[19:24] <capiCrimm> bo-dick, interesting
[19:24] <riddlebox> what can I do to stop my dvd player from being choppy when watching dvds?
[19:24] <Ollie> kkerwin: http://pastebin.com/m36ad9e2e
[19:25] <kelledin> now I might need an engineering hack to correct it tho.... >:-D
[19:25] <AmyRose> Seveas: But ALSA suddenly stopped working with my laptop's ac97, but oss4 still works fine with it.
[19:25] <capiCrimm> bo-dick, well maybe you'd be best following a SMB tutorial
[19:25] <kkerwin> Ollie. Thank you. I'm looking at it now.
[19:25] <dtolj> !Automatix | eTranquility
[19:25] <ubotu> eTranquility: Automatix is no longer developed or supported by its creators and is not recommended, supported or needed by Ubuntu. See http://mjg59.livejournal.com/77440.html and « /msg ubotu WorksForMe »
[19:25] <Ollie> kkerwin: Thank YOU.
[19:25] <Seveas> AmyRose, that would be a misconfiguration or a bug :)
[19:25] <Seveas> anyway, oss is supported
[19:25] <Orbixx> riddlebox: Clean your lense and DVD. Make sure there are no micro-oscillations causing the DVD to be read incorrectly. Also, make sure the CPU isn't being killed by other processes whilst watching.
[19:25] <bo-dick> capiCrimm: prolly
[19:25] <dmsuperman> guys, what's a good default font for firefox browsing? the one that it uses normally is ugly. i'd like just like Times New Roman but that's not with ubuntu :'(
[19:26] <unop__> Odd-rationale, 0x0b
[19:26] <AmyRose> Seveas, And OSS 4 has support for the SB X-Fi, while ALSA doesn't.
[19:26] <bo-dick> capiCrimm: many thanks for your support
[19:26] <capiCrimm> np
[19:26] <Odd-rationale> unop__: ok thanks!
[19:26] <dtolj> eTranquility: i would recommend a 3rd party repo with all codecs
[19:26] <Orbixx> Guys, I'm installing Ubuntu with "unetboot" and when it begins to install after reboot, it pops up with a stack and call trace.
[19:26] <Seveas> dmsuperman, install the 'msttcorefonts' package to get that font
[19:26] <Seveas> !fonts | dmsuperman
[19:26] <ubotu> dmsuperman: Font installation basics here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FontInstallHowto - No fonts in Flash? Install "msttcorefonts" (from !Multiverse), "gsfonts", and "gsfonts-x11". No fonts in MPlayer? see !MPlayer
[19:26] <Orbixx> I imagine it's screwed up and is debugging?
[19:26] <dtolj> anybody know a good CD burning app for Gnome?
[19:27] <DarkSpirit221> Hi, I got this error "checking for C compiler default output file name... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables See `config.log' for more details. configure failed for srclib/apr" What should I do? Help please.
[19:27] <Seveas> dtolj, brasero
[19:27] <dmsuperman> Seveas, i JUST realized after the fact that it's a MS thing, so of course i have to agree to some stupid license to use it :P
[19:27] <CyberCod> dtolj: brassero is decent
[19:27] <Seveas> !compiling | DarkSpirit221
[19:27] <ubotu> DarkSpirit221: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first)
[19:27] <Seveas> dmsuperman, not really :)
[19:27] <kkerwin> Ollie: Ok.  What's the codec package again?
[19:28] <Seveas> hiffy, w32codecs
[19:28] <dtolj> DarkSpirit221: what were you trying to do?
[19:28] <CyberCod> how do you share an internet connection?
[19:28] <Orbixx> DarkSpirit221: apt-get install gcc++
[19:28] <Seveas> !medibuntu | hiffy
[19:28] <ubotu> hiffy: medibuntu is a repository of packages that cannot be included into the Ubuntu distribution for legal reasons - See http://www.medibuntu.org
[19:28] <kkerwin> Ollie: Ok. And how many gigahertz is your processor?
[19:28] <dmsuperman> Seveas, it's from microsoft, i'm sure i've somehow just signed over my soul
[19:28] <DarkSpirit221> kelledin: http://pastebin.com/m36a151e2
[19:28] <hiffy> Seveas, I know WHY it's not included, I just can't remember the package :)
[19:28] <Jaymac> DarkSpirit221: have you got build-essential installed?
[19:28] <DarkSpirit221> dtolj: Installing Apache
[19:28] <Ollie> kkerwin: 0.9
[19:29] <DarkSpirit221> Orbixx: I'll try
[19:29] <Jaymac> hiffy: you need to enable the medibuntu repository to install it :)
[19:29] <DarkSpirit221> Jaymac: What?
[19:29] <Seveas> hiffy, I gave you the packagename. The !medibuntu was just to give you the location of the package :)
[19:29] <kkerwin> Ollie: Ah. Ok.
[19:29] <hiffy> Seveas, right on
[19:29] <Orbixx> Anyone?
[19:29] <Jaymac> DarkSpirit221: sudo aptitude install build-essential
[19:29] <Orbixx> Stacks and call traces during Ubuntu installation = bad?
[19:29] <kkerwin> Ollie: And you are running KDE 3.5.9, yes?
[19:29] <dtolj> DarkSpirit221: apt-get install build-essential
[19:29] <Seveas> DarkSpirit221, don't compile apache by hand. Install it from the repositories.
[19:30] <kkerwin> Ollie: If you don't know, then the answer is most likely yes. :-)
[19:30] <Ollie> kkerwin: I don't know. It is Kubuntu 7.04
[19:30] <unop__> Orbixx, that depends on whether you want to act on that info or not .. ususally to the average user, thats a bad thing
[19:30] <hiffy> Seveas, awesome it works, thank you :)
[19:30] <kelledin> hmmm....now I have an idle hardware question
[19:30] <dtolj> DarkSpirit221: are you building Apache from source?
[19:30] <DarkSpirit221> !find apache
[19:30] <Orbixx> unop__: It doesn't give much to go on.
[19:30] <ubotu> Found: libapache2-mod-auth-mysql, libapache2-mod-auth-pam, libapache2-mod-auth-pgsql, libapache2-mod-auth-plain, libapache2-mod-auth-sys-group (and 120 others)
[19:30] <DarkSpirit221> dtolj: Yes I was.
[19:30] <Orbixx> Just a load of hex.
[19:30] <kelledin> does anyone know of an ATX pass-through module made specifically to generate load, and nothing else?
[19:30] <unop__> Orbixx, consider it a bad thing then
[19:30] <DarkSpirit221> Seveas: So, what package should I get?
[19:30] <Seveas> DarkSpirit221, you'll want the 'apache2' package and possibly something like php or mod_python I assume
[19:31]  * Orbixx sighs.
[19:31] <dtolj> DarkSpirit221: thats a bit tricky since it has many dependencies
[19:31] <Orbixx> Will I ever get Ubuntu on this bloody laptop...
[19:31] <kkerwin> Ollie: Ok. What I'm going to have you do is run memtest. One moment while I do some research.
[19:31] <kelledin> or rather draw load, not generate it.  bad terminology.
[19:31] <DarkSpirit221> Seveas: I want apache for PHP, and I would like MySQL too, can you get me the package names please?
[19:31] <joel> Ollie: a memtest takes several hours so you'll have to be patient ;)
[19:31] <Ollie>  Hey, why do I need a memtest????
[19:31] <jagggy> any ubuntu alternatives for xfire?
[19:31] <magnetron> what do i type in x-chat to stop being "away" ?
[19:31] <Seveas> DarkSpirit221, sudo apt-get install libapache2-mod-php5 php5-mysql mysql-server-5.0
[19:31] <kkerwin> joel: Thanks for adding that.
[19:31] <kelledin> Ollie: Always memtest a new system
[19:32] <Seveas> magnetron, /away
[19:32] <Ollie> My memory is fine
[19:32] <Jaymac> DarkSpirit221: http://www.debianadmin.com/ubuntu-lamp-server-installation-with-screenshots.html
[19:32] <Ollie> System isn't new
[19:32] <joel> Ollie: how do you know that?
[19:32] <Ollie> I told you with Windows XP everything is OK and fast
[19:32] <kelledin> Ollie: a lot of times there will be memory errors you don't know about, especially with home-built or upgraded systems
[19:32] <unop__> Orbixx, you could try booting the CD with the noacpi option .. perhaps it's some hardware thats causing this ?
[19:32] <kkerwin> Ollie: Memtest will check and make sure that your memory is indeed OK. Because your computer is so old, I am concerned that your RAM isn't AOK.
[19:32] <Orbixx> I'm actually installing with "unetboot".
[19:32] <joel> Ollie: Windows uses memory much different, so a problem might not be seen in windows
[19:32] <Orbixx> As the laptop has no optical drive.
[19:32] <kelledin> Ollie: plus, Linux make much more continuous use of RAM than windows.
[19:33] <Ollie> I performed memtest yesterday
[19:33] <Ollie> It was fine
[19:33] <kkerwin> Ollie: Ok. Very well.
[19:33] <joel> Ollie: how many times did you let it run?
[19:33] <Jaymac> DarkSpirit221: never mind, that link is for the server edition...
[19:33] <kelledin> good...then you should be good to go.
[19:33] <Ollie> 5
[19:33] <unop__> Orbixx, oh, that changes the dynamics totally - does it have any removable drives at all?
[19:33] <joel> Ollie: hmmm that's kind of minimal, I've had problems pop up on 10-15 rounds but not before.....but okay you can try to go on with it
[19:34] <riddlebox> Orbixx, I was thinking along the lines of hdparm, but for some reason it never takes hdparm -d1 /dev/scd0
[19:34] <kkerwin> Ollie: Ok. Another question, but I need to figure out how to get you to answer it. One moment ...
[19:34] <Jaymac> DarkSpirit221: here is a better guide.. should still be relevant: http://www.supriyadisw.net/2006/12/lamp-installation-on-ubuntu
[19:34] <joel> I'm out of the loop, what problem is Ollie experiencing?
[19:34] <dtolj> DarkSpirit221: here is another one http://www.web-tech-india.com/articles/php/compiling_php_apache/
[19:34] <magnetron> Seveas: /away doesn't make me only
[19:34] <Ollie> joel: Slow
[19:34] <kkerwin> joel: General slowness.
[19:34] <magnetron> Seveas: *online
[19:34] <kkerwin> Ollie: Do you know offhand if you have any swapspace?
[19:35] <Seveas> magnetron, it's supposed to. Do you have any scripts intercepting that command perhaps?
[19:35] <joel> Ollie: have you tried looking into if it's a grapics problem?
[19:35] <dtolj> DarkSpirit221: this is a good start but you will need to download a lot of package dependencies just to compile the damn thing.
[19:35] <Ollie> joel: no, how is that?
[19:35] <dtolj> DarkSpirit221: involves a bit of trial and error when running configure script
[19:35] <joel> Ollie: what card do you have in it
[19:36] <magnetron> Seveas: no.
[19:36] <Ollie> joel: Geforce 2
[19:36] <Seveas> magnetron, in the server tab, type: /quote away
[19:37] <magnetron> Seveas: works
[19:37] <magnetron> AmyRose: why do you CTCP me?
[19:37] <joel> Ollie: what version of Ubuntu are you working with?
[19:37] <Ollie> joel: 7
[19:37] <Ollie> .04
[19:38] <dmsuperman> What is "HTTP Cache Cleaner" and why does it keep launching?
[19:38] <Seveas> dmsuperman, it's something that runs if you enable apache
[19:38] <Seveas> 's mod_cache
[19:38] <Seveas> (afaik)
[19:38] <joel> Ollie: the first thing I would recommend is an upgrade to Gutsy ;)
[19:38] <dmsuperman> alright, makes sense
[19:38] <dmsuperman> i gotta get out of this windows way of thinking
[19:38] <dmsuperman> first thoughts were
[19:38] <dmsuperman> VIRUS
[19:39] <Seveas> hehehe
[19:39] <dmsuperman> alright here's one
[19:39] <Ollie> joel: No other way?
[19:39] <dmsuperman> i've got virtual box
[19:39] <Ollie> I find it hard to upgrade the OS every half an year
[19:39] <joel> Ollie: I would just start there, it might be an easy fix and Hardy is coming out soon so it'll be a good step
[19:40] <Scunizi> Ollie, you're fast running out of support for that version with Hardy being released in 14 days or so.. so you can upgrade to Gutsy now and to Hardy later..
[19:40] <joel> Ollie: Why? Just make a separate partition mounted to / it's easy to upgrade
[19:40] <dmsuperman> and it allows me to only select /dev/cdrom for the cdrom drive. my actual cd rom is in /dev/cdrom1 though, is it possible to like switch them or something?
[19:40] <kkerwin> Ollie: You can upgrade to Gutsy without having to wipe your harddrive. All it is is an upgrade to the software on your harddrive.
[19:40] <Seveas> dmsuperman, isn't /dev/cdrom a symlink to /dev/cdrom1 ?
[19:40] <sdfs> way
[19:41] <kkerwin> Ollie: One moment ...
[19:41] <sdfs> sdsd
[19:41] <Scunizi> !upgrade | Ollie
[19:41] <ubotu> Ollie: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[19:41] <dmsuperman> Seveas, no, /dev/scd0
[19:41] <Ollie> ok
[19:41] <VikDAkinG> hi can someone help me install ubuntu
[19:41] <zelrikriando> eh how good is hardy?
[19:41] <VikDAkinG> is there a tutorial or something
[19:41] <Liamm> VikDAkinG
[19:41] <joel> Hardy is still beta, but it's good
[19:41] <joel> I've been using it for a month or so
[19:41] <VikDAkinG> yes?
[19:41] <Liamm> what do you need help with
[19:41] <armyof12monkeyss> hey hey whats going on???
[19:41] <dmsuperman> VikDAkinG, just run the livecd
[19:41] <Jack_Sparrow> VikDAkinG, Insert cd and boot your system
[19:41] <Scunizi> !install | VikDAkinG
[19:41] <ubotu> VikDAkinG: Ubuntu can be installed in a lot of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall. Don't want to use a CD? Try http://tinyurl.com/3exghs - See also !automate
[19:41] <VikDAkinG> well i downloaded the ISO
[19:41] <Seveas> dmsuperman, ls -la /dev/cdrom /dev/cdrom1 /dev/scd0
[19:42] <Seveas> and pastebin that :)
[19:42] <dmsuperman> VikDAkinG, the installer is self explanatory
[19:42] <Liamm> put the cd in your drive reboot and press
[19:42] <Liamm> f8
[19:42] <VikDAkinG> idk because it just put an iso file on my desktop
[19:42] <Liamm> then boot to your cd drive
[19:42] <Liamm> oh
[19:42] <VikDAkinG> and then i copied it into a CD
[19:42] <Liamm> u need to burn it to cd then
[19:42] <VikDAkinG> i did
[19:42] <Liamm> k
[19:42] <joel> or put it on a flash drive ;)
[19:42] <joel> much faster that way
[19:42] <tobizaz> kust installed my nvidia drivers and got them too work, but when i rebooted it says unable to initialize kernel module..
[19:42] <VikDAkinG> but it still just shows .isoo file
[19:42] <Liamm> you need the cd in your drive
[19:42] <Liamm> when you reboot
[19:42] <dmsuperman> Seveas, cdrom -> scd0, cdrom1 -> scd1
[19:42] <Jack_Sparrow> VikDAkinG, burn it as an image, dont just put the iso on a cd
[19:42] <VikDAkinG> oh ok
[19:42] <tobizaz> any ideas on how to solve that ?
[19:42] <Scunizi> VikDAkinG, if you're on windows you'll need to burn the ISO as an image not DATA.. someone here may be able to recommend a win program for burning ISO's
[19:43] <Orbixx> unop__: Sorry, went AFK. You still around?
[19:43] <VikDAkinG> oh any programs to do that?
[19:43] <Seveas> dmsuperman, it's the -a bit's i'm interested in (the inode numbers)
[19:43] <VikDAkinG> that people can recommend
[19:43] <Liamm> nero
[19:43] <Liamm> or something
[19:43] <VikDAkinG> oh ok
[19:43] <Seveas> err, not inode numbers, device numbers
[19:43] <Jack_Sparrow> VikDAkinG, I like to use isorecorder.. freeware for windows iso burning
[19:43] <Liamm> just open the .iso in nero
[19:43] <VikDAkinG> oh thanks alot
[19:43] <Liamm> and it will burn the image to cd
[19:43] <dmsuperman> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root      4 2008-04-12 01:18 /dev/cdrom -> scd0
[19:43] <dmsuperman> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root      4 2008-04-12 01:18 /dev/cdrom1 -> scd1
[19:43] <dmsuperman> brw-rw---- 1 root cdrom 11, 0 2008-04-12 01:17 /dev/scd0
[19:43] <amortvigil> Hey does anyone have a good tutorial for starting with anjuta / glade / c++
[19:43] <kkerwin> Ollie: If you would like to upgrade, I would recommend the instructions here, instead: http://kubuntu.org/announcements/7.10-release.php#upgrade
[19:44] <EYE-OF-RA> BEGINNITIO REVELATIONEM
[19:44] <EYE-OF-RA> DECODE BIBLIA
[19:44] <EYE-OF-RA> Revel - Abraham is associated with the Egyptian pharaoh Amenemhat I (translates: amen is the head) who worshiped the god Amun (Amen). Abraham god then be associated with in the Abrahamic religions god as amun, amon, omon, amen and the deity aamon. Abraham/Amenemhet I
[19:44] <FloodBot1> EYE-OF-RA: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:44] <EYE-OF-RA> Revel - Jacob = King Yakubher
[19:44] <EYE-OF-RA> Revel - Moses = Thutmose III
[19:44] <dmsuperman> wtf was that
[19:44] <Scunizi> bot,, flod script.. or something
[19:44] <VikDAkinG> by the way i had a question.. In your opinion do you think Ubuntu is the most compatible of all Linux OS's with software?
[19:44] <dmsuperman> i believe we all just got hexed
[19:45] <Xang> dmsuperman: heh.
[19:45] <dmsuperman> VikDAkinG, it's certainly one of the easiest to use, imo
[19:45] <Seveas> dmsuperman, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VirtualBox#head-a196ad43d111074227565f8abe1e7175187f1bf2
[19:45] <Seveas> doesn't that window give you the correct cdrom?
[19:45] <StPatrick> If I have already installed Ubuntu 7.10 across my entire hard drive, how would I go about Installing XP in a new partition?
[19:45] <kkerwin> Ollie: Are you still with me?
[19:45] <StPatrick> To dual boot.
[19:45] <dmsuperman> Seveas, i've already got a vm
[19:45] <Seveas> dmsuperman, it's possible that you can only change that while the vm is powered down
[19:45] <moe_> Hallo welt
[19:46] <Seveas> hello moe_
[19:46] <dmsuperman> Seveas, the section you sent me is to setup a vm
[19:46] <dmsuperman> Seveas, i already have one, i just need to be able to change the cdrom drive it lets me use
[19:46] <dmsuperman> Seveas, however, it only gave me the option for /media/cdrom
[19:46] <Jack_Sparrow> StPatrick, run livecd, create a couple partitions .. install xp on the first partition and reiunstall ubuntu on one of the others.
[19:46] <tobizaz> kust installed my nvidia drivers and got them too work, but when i rebooted it says unable to initialize kernel module.. any ideas on how to solve that ?
[19:46] <Seveas> dmsuperman, even if powered down?
[19:46] <dmsuperman> Seveas, yes
[19:47] <dmsuperman> Seveas, and i meant /dev/cdrom
[19:47] <Ollie> kkerwin: Yes?
[19:47] <VikDAkinG> dang lol i got to find another writeable CD now
[19:47] <VikDAkinG> :(
[19:47] <Seveas> I'm going to stick with "odd"
[19:49] <StPatrick> Jack_Sparrow,  I did that once before, and when computer booted, I didn't get an option for XP, Ubuntu just booted : ( My windows install was lost.
[19:49] <kkerwin> Ollie: Ok. What do you want to do? Do you want to upgrade?
[19:49] <dmsuperman> Seveas, i have 2 drives, but the one i need is cdrom1, not cdrom0
[19:49] <StPatrick> Jack_Sparrow, Do the partitions need to be certain types, etc?
[19:49] <StPatrick> Jack_Sparrow,  Is it possible to do it without losing my current Ubuntu install?
[19:49] <Zambezi> Seveas: May I bother you in PM for like two minutes?
[19:49] <Seveas> dmsuperman, http://www.virtualbox.org/ticket/646
[19:49] <Ollie> kkerwin: I will but later.
[19:49] <Seveas> Zambezi, there are more people in here so a better chance for help if you ask in the channel :)
[19:49] <kkerwin> Ollie: Ok. Let me ask you to enter some more commands into your konsole. Do you still have the konsole open?
[19:49] <ghost3> very simple question yet can find no answer... how can i convert and avi to dvd so i can burn it with k3b?
[19:49] <Jack_Sparrow> StPatrick, yes, it can be done..  see !clone ...   but if you do not have much time in custom settings, it might be easier to flush it and do a fresh install.. burn /var/cache/apt/archives to a cd to save yourself some time later
[19:49] <dmsuperman> damn...
[19:49] <Zambezi> Seveas: I don't think it's a good idea asking in main. You'll understand why. :-)
[19:49] <Ollie> kkerwin: yes
[19:49] <kkerwin> Ollie: Ok. Type and enter "top".
[19:49] <Seveas> dmsuperman, note that that buf has been marked fixed only two months ago, so ubuntu 7.10 will not have the fix
[19:49] <Pirate_Hunter> where would i find the file .xinit?
[19:49] <Seveas> Zambezi, then feel free to pm :)
[19:49] <bo-dick> apparently one must have a password for the vista account if one wants to mount it from ubuntu over network
[19:50] <dmsuperman> Seveas, any clue how i might get the fixed version?
[19:50] <kkerwin> Ollie: I'm looking for the line that says "Swap:". Cut and paste that whole line right here on IRC, please.
[19:50] <dtolj> Pirate_Hunter: did it work?
[19:50] <Seveas> none whatsoever, sorry
[19:50] <VikDAkinG> By the way, how do i remove WinXP totally from my computer?
[19:50] <dmsuperman> VikDAkinG, just delete the partition with the installer
[19:50] <ghost3> can anyone give me a hint on how to convert an avi to dvd?
[19:50] <dmsuperman> VikDAkinG, and create your new partitions
[19:50] <VikDAkinG> oh ok thanks
[19:50] <StPatrick> Jack_Sparrow,  Thanks
[19:50] <Jack_Sparrow> np
[19:51] <dmsuperman> i just realized something
[19:51] <dmsuperman> how is it
[19:51] <StPatrick> Jack_Sparrow,  Think I'm just gonna give up on linux. For now anyway
[19:51] <kkerwin> ghost3: VLC, I think, is the name of a good program.
[19:51] <dmsuperman> we have both Jack_Sparrow and Pirate_Hunter in t he same channel and there isn't crazy battles going on
[19:51] <VikDAkinG> ghost3, Im sure there is conversion software on the web
[19:51] <VikDAkinG> Google?
[19:51] <ghost3> for linux?
[19:51] <dmsuperman> yeah, for linux is the problem
[19:51] <Pirate_Hunter> dtolj: dont know im currently doing it since i had to do something, the link you gave me states for me to copy details from the default xinit and copy them to xinitrc which is what im trying to find out
[19:51] <dmsuperman> it's hard enough finding a good one for windows
[19:51] <VikDAkinG> oh ok
[19:51] <kkerwin> Ollie: Do you have that "Swap:" line?
[19:52] <VikDAkinG> lol 1 sec lemme try to find
[19:52] <ghost3> brb
[19:52] <Pirate_Hunter> dtolj: I dont have a problem using that version on the link but i might stop things assigned automatically from starting
[19:52] <sdsad> sas
[19:52] <Pirate_Hunter> dmsuperman: what do you mean by that? why would there be a fight :/
[19:52] <Orbixx> Good grammar, punctuation, spelling and vocabulary is so hard to come by these days...
[19:53] <Seveas> sdsad, could you please stop spewing random nonsense in hete
[19:53] <dmsuperman> Pirate_Hunter, you're a pirate hunter, and Jack_Sparrow is a pirate
[19:53] <Seveas> here*
[19:53] <dmsuperman> :P
[19:53] <Pirate_Hunter> Orbixx: yes it is funny enough most irc clients come with dictionary
[19:53] <dragisa> pozdrav  svima
[19:53] <Pirate_Hunter> dmsuperman: i wish i could remember the ignore command it would be useful right now :D
[19:53] <ghost3> hmmm, only one i can see is for wine. ill try that and tell ya how it goes.
[19:53] <Orbixx> I loathe having to decipher the encryptions of laziness.
[19:54] <dmsuperman> Pirate_Hunter, jeesh, sorry for making a single comment :S
[19:54] <Orbixx> dmsuperman: It was an ignorant comment.
[19:54]  * kkerwin sighs.
[19:54] <Jack_Sparrow> !ot
[19:54] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[19:55] <VikDAkinG> http://www.free-codecs.com/download/super.htm
[19:55] <Pirate_Hunter> does any one know where the default xinitrc file in ubuntu not the one in ~/.
[19:55] <kkerwin> Heh. And I had JUST figured out what his problem was. He was running a parallel KDE session as ROOT.
[19:55] <VikDAkinG> here is the program to convert AVI to DVD
[19:55] <armyof12monkeyss> i cant get my wireless card working with unbuntu!!!!
[19:55] <Orbixx> Oh dear.
[19:55] <VikDAkinG> Im pretty sure that should work
[19:55] <Orbixx> armyof12monkeyss: Remove the excessive exclamation marks and try again.
[19:55] <Pirate_Hunter> dmsuperman: like Jack_Sparrow has stated its not a question
[19:55] <dmsuperman> Orbixx, not every comment in this channel has related to ubuntu. i wasn't spamming, i sent a single line. your life isn't going to end because of it. chill out, it's only the internet
[19:55] <Seveas> !wifi | armyof12monkeyss looked here?
[19:55] <ubotu> armyof12monkeyss looked here?: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[19:56] <VikDAkinG> ok bye guys wish me luck going to go install Ubuntu :D!!!
[19:56] <dmsuperman> Seveas, is it cool to pm you?
[19:56] <dmsuperman> VikDAkinG, good luck :D
[19:56] <Seveas> VikDAkinG, good luck
[19:56] <VikDAkinG> ty
[19:56] <Seveas> dmsuperman, all the cool kids are doing it, so it's way cool :)
[19:56] <armyof12monkeyss> yeah so can i get some help????????????//
[19:56] <Seveas> armyof12monkeyss, maybe, why don't you start by describing the problem
[19:56] <Pelo> good afternoon folks
[19:57] <Jack_Sparrow> armyof12monkeyss, If you dont tell us what hardware you are using you will not get far with help.
[19:57] <Jack_Sparrow> Hey Pelo
[19:57] <Orbixx> armyof12monkeyss: What chipset does the wireless card use?
[19:57] <armyof12monkeyss> I cant get my wireless card to work on ubuntu
[19:57] <Pelo> as anyone here courageously attempted the grub-gfx modification ?
[19:57] <armyof12monkeyss> uhhh
[19:57]  * Pelo pokes Jack_Sparrow
[19:57] <armyof12monkeyss> im not sure the chipset
[19:57] <Jack_Sparrow> !repeat > armyof12monkeyss
[19:57] <Orbixx> Broadcom, atheros?
[19:57] <aoupi> how can I spin the cube upside down?
[19:57] <armyof12monkeyss> is there a command i can run to tell?
[19:57] <Pelo> armyof12monkeyss, look it up on the maker's website
[19:57] <Pelo> armyof12monkeyss, or try lspci
[19:57] <Seveas> armyof12monkeyss, is it usb or internal?
[19:57] <Orbixx> armyof12monkeyss: If you can tell us the model number, you can find out on Google easily enough.
[19:57] <Jack_Sparrow> lshw .. lspci...  lsusb
[19:58] <Gigi70> what is better kubuntu or pclinuxos?
[19:58] <Jack_Sparrow> !ot > Gigi70,
[19:58] <bnex10> hey
[19:58] <Gigi70> sorry
[19:58] <bnex10> i notice that there is a package for my ATi Rage Card
[19:58] <tuxus> Gigi70: try them both, you decide
[19:58] <bnex10> it's called xserver-xorg-video-ati-dbg
[19:58] <bnex10> should I try that?
[19:58] <Gigi70> ok ty
[19:59] <Pelo> bnex10, use the restricted driver manager in the admin menu
[19:59] <Jack_Sparrow> Gigi70, install both.. dual boot. if you want
[19:59] <armyof12monkeyss> broadcom corpration bcm4328 802.11
[19:59] <Jack_Sparrow> !bcm43
[19:59] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about bcm43 - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[19:59] <Gigi70> sounds like a plan jack
[19:59] <Jack_Sparrow> !bcm43xx
[19:59] <ubotu> Help with Broadcom bcm43xx can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs/Driver/Broadcom43xx
[19:59] <armyof12monkeyss> bcm4328
[19:59] <Seveas> armyof12monkeyss, ah, broadcom....
[19:59] <Orbixx> Exactly how expansive is ubotu, it seems to know no bounds?
[19:59] <armyof12monkeyss> yeah
[19:59] <bnex10> Pelo, ok i'm looking at restricted driver manger
[20:00] <Seveas> armyof12monkeyss, system -> administration -> restricted drivers
[20:00] <armyof12monkeyss> its a dell laptop
[20:00] <bnex10> pelo, but the card is not in the system
[20:00] <Pelo> Orbixx, expansive in what sense ?
[20:00] <Jack_Sparrow> armyof12monkeyss, I used fwcutter on my dells with bcm43xx
[20:00] <Seveas> that should have a button for you to download the firmware it needs
[20:00] <Seveas> Jack_Sparrow, (bcm43xx is now called b43)
[20:00] <Orbixx> Pelo: In the sense that it covers practically every question and every topic.
[20:00] <bnex10> pelo, and i get this: "Your hardware does not need any restricted drivers."
[20:00] <Pelo> bnex10, do you know what video driver you are using atm ?   look in the xorg.conf file that will tell you
[20:00] <armyof12monkeyss> in restriced drivers i only see the graphics driver
[20:00] <bnex10> i get nothing
[20:00] <Pirate_Hunter> dtolj: found it good thing i didnt use that example .xinitr and yeah thanx for the locate command it came in handy
[20:00] <alex-weej> what packages are snd_ drivers supposed to be in? i don't appear to have any
[20:01] <Seveas> armyof12monkeyss, then you'll have to go the fwcutter route -- sudo apt-get install bcm43xx-fwcutter
[20:01] <Pelo> Orbixx, well, it's been tweaked and added to over the years
[20:01] <bnex10> pelo, if i put the card in, it doesn't work
[20:01] <chejrw> i <3 ubuntu
[20:01] <bnex10> me too, but kubuntu is better
[20:01] <Jadd76> does anyone know a way to throttle Apache's bandwidth speed? I want to simulate a slow connection on my desktop
[20:02] <Jack_Sparrow> chejrw, Please ask your question and try to stay on topic
[20:02] <Seveas> Jadd76, iptables trickery or traffic shaping
[20:02] <armyof12monkeyss> can you tell me hot to DL the drivers again
[20:02] <Pelo> bnex10, that's normal ,  you need to reconfigure xserver to make it work , put it in , boot the recovery mode,  type sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg , and follow the instructions, always pick the default answer unless you absolutely know betterr
[20:02] <armyof12monkeyss> i am new with this
[20:02] <hobbzilla> Hey all, I'm having an issue printing to my printer via the samba share AND straight lpr from the CLI
[20:02] <Seveas> armyof12monkeyss, sudo apt-get install bcm43xx-fwcutter
[20:02]  * Pelo 's fingers are frozen and he can'T type
[20:02] <Jack_Sparrow> armyof12monkeyss, he gave you the command above
[20:02] <chejrw> My dad wants to buy a new computer.  He is deciding between OSX, Vista, and Ubuntu.
[20:02] <chejrw> He mainly does business stuff.
[20:03] <chejrw> spreadsheets, documents, email
[20:03] <armyof12monkeyss> i just write that in the terminal?
[20:03] <Jack_Sparrow> yep
[20:03] <chejrw> which one should he get
[20:03] <Pelo> chejrw, tell him to forget about vista
[20:03] <Seveas> chejrw, whichever he prefers