[04:21] <needlez>  Can anyone help me with totem and gnome-power-manager?? I have tried multiple things and still no luck. If totem is open my computer will not go into sleep mode, or suspend automatically.  I have tried to make a script to tell it to shut down or suspend after totem playback but it doesnt work. Also turned on Dbus and turned of Dbus and uninstalled and reinstalled gnome-power-manager. Any help would be very appericiated
[04:21] <Prodego> nitsua: this isn't really going to work, I'd save yourself the time
[04:21] <madmike117> no, seriously, it had win 7 on it .. i just wanted to get ubuntu 10.10 on here and kill the windows disk altogether
[04:21] <DasEi> nitsua: no idea, tell me in #ubuntu-offtopic ?
[04:21] <madmike117> i didnt have any cd's to do a cd install
[04:21] <nitsua> Prodego, you give freenoders too much credit :D
[04:21] <madmike117> so i did wubi and then removed the windows partitions
[04:22] <madmike117> that was early today :-/ .. i shoulda read more about what wubi was. i thought it was just a way to do a reg install via windows for newbs
[04:22] <nitsua> i'm just planting seeds, anyway
[04:22] <DasEi> madmike117: true, mad , oo
[04:22] <LoRez> you're just lying to people.
[04:22] <madmike117> i noticed no performance probs since the machine is fast .. so i had no idea it was using virtual disks
[04:23] <DasEi> madmike117: it won't run no mor without the hosting os
[04:23] <madmike117> i booted the livecd to mount my ubuntu partitions and just re-install grub to the mbr
[04:23] <hanasaki> bonjoyee:  umm they pulled the USB out of 4.0
[04:23] <DasEi> more*
[04:23] <UnholyTerror> madmike117, d/l a cd and do a proper install on the first disk (since you don't want windows)
[04:23] <madmike117> will i be able to recover the data from the virtual ubuntu .disk files?
[04:23] <madmike117> i want to get back all the work id id today
[04:23] <madmike117> that's my main problem
[04:24] <Nonpython> How do I make the "Feiya Technology Corp. Silicon Motion Camera" work? It has no brand, it was a cheapo eBay special.
[04:24] <Maahes> !find libsqlite3.so.0
[04:24] <Nonpython> Cheese just has a blank screen.
[04:24] <UnholyTerror> madmike117, can you see the linux files on the second drive (from the livecd)?
[04:24] <DasEi> madmike117: yes, can, first back up, then get a working ubuntu, then can do
[04:24] <needlez>  Can anyone help me with totem and gnome-power-manager?? I have tried multiple things and still no luck. If totem is open my computer will not go into sleep mode, or suspend automatically.  I have tried to make a script to tell it to shut down or suspend after totem playback but it doesnt work. Also turned on Dbus and turned of Dbus and uninstalled and reinstalled gnome-power-manager. Any help would be very appericiated
[04:25] <Maahes> Nonpython: that's tricky. Bear in mind almost every cheapo webcam drive in linux written by 1 guy in france.
[04:25] <Maahes> so, it might not have a driver yet.
[04:25] <gabe__> hello
[04:25] <gabe__> DasEi: am I in the room?
[04:25] <gabe__> DasEi: am I in the room?
[04:25] <Nonpython> I am helping my grandma in Florda, >4000 miles away. I can't install linux.
[04:25] <DasEi> gabe__: yupp
[04:26] <UnholyTerror> madmike117, you could then install VMWare and create a VM and copy the files into it.
[04:26] <UnholyTerror> madmike117, you follow?
[04:26] <DasEi> UnholyTerror: he had wubi on win7 and deleted the host-os...
[04:27] <UnholyTerror> DasEi, he had Win7 (disk1) and a wubi install onto disk2 and erased disk 1
[04:27] <gabe__> DasEi: I got disconnected as soon as I restarted the network and eth0 came up
[04:27] <DasEi> UnholyTerror: alright, just to be sure you know whole story
[04:28] <UnholyTerror> DasEi, this is the second person i've seen do this...
[04:28] <madmike117> im just gonna scrap all of it and do a fresh install .. oh well
[04:28] <Maahes> !find libstdc++.so.6
[04:28] <DasEi> gabe__: if you where connected through eth0 before, no wonder
[04:28] <madmike117> there's a bash script that u can use if u still have the host - os and can boot into ubuntu
[04:28] <DasEi> UnholyTerror: oo, awesome :P
[04:28] <madmike117> i cant even get booted into ubuntu to use it so thats out of the question.
[04:29] <gabe__> DasEi: what do you mean connected through eth0? internet is on wlan0
[04:29] <madmike117> maybe ill save these .disk files and see if i can mount them later
[04:29] <madmike117> are they regular ext4 or 3 filesystems?
[04:29] <DasEi> gabe__: you told before the change you connected to inet via wired
[04:29] <madmike117> what format are they in? anyone know? (i'm talking about the wubi .disk files if ur just seeing this)
[04:29] <UnholyTerror> madmike117, dunno
[04:30] <DasEi> madmike117: the farmer, get a working os, then can acces these img's
[04:30] <gabe__> DasEi: nope, wired goes to the lab and wlan0 to the internet using <IP_ADDRESS>
[04:30] <DasEi> gabe__: anyway, you're back
[04:30] <needlez> madmike117: which version of ubuntu were you trying to install?? thru wubi??
[04:30] <DasEi> gabe__: restarting nw brings down/up to the nics
[04:31] <gabe__> DasEi: yes, well I just came back to thank you but I gotta go
[04:31] <DasEi> np, have fun, gabe__
[04:31] <Maahes> !clone
[04:31] <needlez> madmike117: I believe it should be ext4 but im double checking right now
[04:32] <Maahes> why would I be getting an "unknown command" for '?installed!?automatic' ?
[04:32] <DasEi> Maahes: on which command ?
[04:32] <Nonpython> How do I make the "Feiya Technology Corp. Silicon Motion Camera" work? It has no brand, it was a cheapo eBay special. It's usbid is 090c:937b.
[04:32] <Maahes> DasEi: the one in that last !clone
[04:32] <Maahes> !webcams
[04:33] <DasEi> Maahes: that's one cmd :  sudo xargs aptitude --schedule-only install < my-packages ; sudo aptitude install
[04:34] <Maahes> DasEi: Don't want that command actually, I want to make a list of installed packages, I don't have an install target yet
[04:34] <DasEi> Maahes: and oc my-packages must be in the same (new) dir
[04:34] <DasEi> Maahes: if not for cloning can easier : dpkg -l > packets.txt
[04:35] <star__> hello
[04:35] <spankpole> whats a command to see if my hdmi sounds muted?
[04:35] <Maahes> yeah but there's often discrepencies between dpkg and aptitude
[04:35] <DasEi> star__: jingle shells
[04:35] <Maahes> I'm going to reinstall aptitute and see if that fixes my unknown command problem
[04:36] <chaos2358> ok im having trouble getting a program to startup on boot. i compiled the program "which is working fine" i open Sytem>pref>Startup Applications, I set the name to the name of the program "miniDlna" i set the command to /usr/sbin/minidlna, saved it, it shows up in my startup applications list but it will not start on boot. any ideas?
[04:36] <hanasaki> what vpn software is out for ubuntu?
[04:36] <AbhiJit> !vpn
[04:36] <DasEi> Maahes: aptitude  --display-format '%p' search '?installed!?automatic' > ~/my-packages         throws unknown cmd ?
[04:37] <chaos2358> anything?
[04:38] <Maahes> DasEi: yes
[04:38] <Maahes> oh wait
[04:38] <hanasaki> thanks AbhiJit
[04:38] <Maahes> its missing search
[04:38] <DasEi> Maahes: typo ? just copy n paste
[04:38] <AbhiJit> hanasaki, welcome
[04:38] <DasEi> aah
[04:39] <needlez> chaos2358: did you put the programs name and command to run the program into the startup applications area under preferences??
[04:40] <chaos2358> needlez,  i compiled the program "which is working fine" i open Sytem>pref>Startup Applications, I set the name to the name of the program "miniDlna" i set the command to /usr/sbin/minidlna, saved it, it shows up in my startup applications list but it will not start on boot. any ideas?
[04:40] <AbhiJit> !sound | spankpole
[04:41] <Maahes> w00t, now I can rebuild after reinstalling on my hosed system ^_^
[04:41] <Maahes> bbin awhile
[04:41] <DasEi> Maahes: slipstream on
[04:42] <DasEi> Maahes: but realize any done config will have to repeated
[04:42] <DasEi> be*
[04:42] <alazyworkaholic> Thanks for the help (Maahes, sync3times). I managed to work out the network issues but I always want more. The receiving machine wrote an uncompressed file called chuckbackup with "nc -l 1234 > chuckbackup". Now I want the receiving computer to take what it gets from nc & compress it using pbzip2. Should the following command work, or will I cause BAD THINGS? "nc -l 1234 | pbzip2 -z -c | dd of=/tmp/backup.dd" Thanks!
[04:43] <spankpole> AbhiJit, analogs working fine just no hdmi sound, must be muted in some config...
[04:43] <kravlin> is there any way to boot ubuntu from grub 1? or a more simple grub command than the one that's autogenerated?
[04:43] <seidos> anyone know where i can find the source code for the dictionary add on for gnome-panel?  checked gnome-panel and gnome-utils already.
[04:43] <sync3times> alazyworkaholic, pbzip cannot do streaming so it must be done after.   I would compress the stream before you send it
[04:43] <DasEi> kravlin: you can use grub1 on current ubuntu, too
[04:44] <spankpole> AbhiJit, and it shows up in the mixer
[04:44] <alazyworkaholic> sync3times: ok, thanks for the tip. Is there a multithreaded compressor that can stream?
[04:44] <needlez> anyone got any ideas what to do to fix a computers sleepmode since it wont kick in if totem is open even if nothin is running it wont sleep /suspend
[04:44] <sync3times> alazyworkaholic,   no, but there really should be.
[04:44] <Maahes> DasEi: I actually don't have the tools to do that, and can't get them easily. I will however make a version of my fixed persistent install and then use that the next time I destroy this (I had a crash and lost almost all /bin and /lib and /usr/bin
[04:44] <AbhiJit> spankpole, dunno. run alsamixer in terminal an see if anything is muted or try pulse audio equlizer
[04:44] <kravlin> DasEi: does that invalidate any of the commands in the autogenerated grub conf?
[04:45] <sync3times> alazyworkaholic, what you are doing is strange.  can you provide some background?
[04:45] <Steve973> if I have a package installed by apt, but there's a deb on the developer's site, can I install the deb through apt and still have it update the package later?
[04:45] <alazyworkaholic> sync3times: fine. I'll live with one core for now, but what should I put in place of pbzip2?
[04:45] <sync3times> alazyworkaholic,  also,  nc is primitive.   I would look a the   socat command   socat  is godlike in features and clarity
[04:45] <DasEi> kravlin: yes, grub1 is completly different and simpler than grub-pc
[04:46] <DasEi> kravlin: what is yor actual demand ?
[04:46] <sync3times> alazyworkaholic,   use bzip2
[04:46] <spankpole> AbhiJit, did that nothing muted , worked in 9.10 :(
[04:46] <spankpole> oh well
[04:47] <Fezzler> Why since upgrading to Lucid does my You Tube video not run insync with sound unless at 240p?  It worked great in other verisons
[04:47] <sync3times> alazyworkaholic,  how are you going to verify you got all the data?
[04:47] <alazyworkaholic> sync3times: I have a windows laptop running an ubuntu live cd - going to wipe & put ubuntu. However, I want a full image of the drive so that I can get *everything* back in case my friend isn't happy with the result or forgot to save something on his usb drive. I want that backup saved on a desktop. & I'm trying to learn something.
[04:47] <Fezzler> Wrong video card driver installed by Lucid?
[04:47] <Steve973> if I have a package installed by apt, but there's a deb on the developer's site, can I install the deb through apt and still have it update the package later?
[04:47] <kravlin> DasEi: i'm running arch linux, but i'm creating a seperate partition in which i'm running ubuntu so prey can be installed on that (my arch partition is encrypted). so i need to modify my grub.conf so i can boot arch and ubuntu.
[04:48] <Steve973> through dist-upgrade, I mean
[04:48] <sync3times> alazyworkaholic, all good reasons,   good enough.   I just wanted to make sure this wasnt going to be a daily thing.   Its kinda weak
[04:48] <Fezzler> The video driver that worked great for my card doesn't seem to load since I went to Real Time kernel for improved jackd audio
[04:48] <sync3times> alazyworkaholic, from a verification standpoint
[04:48] <kravlin> DasEi: and i'm pretty sure arch uses grub 1 so i have to figure out how to write the grub.conf.
[04:48] <alazyworkaholic> sync3times: would the command then be: "nc -l 1234 | bzip2 | dd of=/tmp/backup.dd"?
[04:49] <DasEi> kravlin: so you're in the wrong channel.. you can install ubu to another party, with NO grub, then late add it to your existing grub
[04:49] <Nabisco> How does one enable a verbose boot in 10.04 LTS x64?
[04:49] <Nabisco> Also, the default sounds are very anoying.
[04:49] <beginner> wow
[04:49] <breadcrumb> alazyworkaholic, Clonezilla is good for something like that. i used it to image my laptop in case i ever want to restore it to factory condition
[04:49] <DasEi> kravlin: idk for arch, but neither grub1 or 2 has a grub.conf to be edited, either menu.lst or few files for grub2
[04:49] <ttwist> Can anyone tell me how I would go about removing the verve command line from the panel of xfce?  I can't right click on it to get the menu to remove it.
[04:49] <kravlin> DasEi: i'm in the wrong channel? I figured that the arch guys wouldn't know anything about how to make ubuntu work with grub.
[04:50] <sync3times> alazyworkaholic,     whats your sending stream look like?   as I said, you could transmit it compressed.
[04:50] <DasEi> kravlin: also I won't put my hand in fire that grub2 will correctly find and boot arch, test this by a live cd first
[04:50] <kravlin> DasEi: sorry. menu.lst. I'm used to having configuration files with the name program.conf
[04:50] <ld> how do i specify which version of java will run by default?
[04:50] <sync3times> alazyworkaholic, you dont have to write the file twice that way
[04:50] <Nabisco> why is Ubuntu so damn "cutting edge?"
[04:50] <kravlin> DasEi: ubuntu's version of grub didn't find arch so i'm not figuring it does.
[04:51] <beginner> ok
[04:51] <sync3times> alazyworkaholic, scratch that
[04:51] <kravlin> DasEi: I'm wondering what commands i need to use to get ubuntu working with grub 1 effectively.
[04:51] <alazyworkaholic> sync3times: & I could probably run "md5sum /dev/sda1" & "md5sum /tmp/backup" & compare to check it worked right?
[04:51] <DasEi> kravlin: either you leave the current bootlaoder and add ubu later, or check that grub2 finds and sets arch correctly and install grub2 by ubuntu-installer
[04:52] <DasEi> kravlin: it's just another section in menu.lst and device.map
[04:52] <ld> how do i specify which version of java will run by default?
[04:52] <sync3times> alazyworkaholic,  very good.   but  image the whole drive    /dev/sda
[04:52] <alazyworkaholic> sync3times: I wanted to compress on the desktop because it's much more powerful (many cores) but if it has to be single threaded, I guess I could compress on the laptop.
[04:52] <beginner> oh yes
[04:52] <alazyworkaholic> ok, not sda1
[04:52] <beginner> rit
[04:52] <DasEi> kravlin: keeping the existing grub one is the safer way, getti9ng grub2 for further support more common
[04:52] <kravlin> DasEi: I left the current bootloader while installing ubuntu. now i'm trying to write the grub entry for ubuntu into menu.lst
[04:53] <alazyworkaholic> sync3times: sending looks like: "sudo dd if=/dev/sda | nc <IP_ADDRESS> 1234"
[04:53] <Steve973> if I use dpkg -i and then use apt-get -f install, and then if the repo gets an update to my manually installed package, will apt-get dist-upgrade upgrade that package?
[04:53] <sync3times> alazyworkaholic, if you are going to md5,  then  do the compression with pbzip after the transfer and comparison
[04:53] <DasEi> ic, and are oon arch ?
[04:53] <DasEi> kravlin: ^
[04:53] <kravlin> DasEi: currently, because i don't know how to write the one for ubuntu yet.
[04:53] <alazyworkaholic> sync3times: if I'm gonna compress on the laptop, the sending stream would be: "sudo dd if=/dev/sda | bzip2 | nc <IP_ADDRESS>"? 1234
[04:53] <sync3times> alazyworkaholic,  looks good, I think you are set.   I am just a little worried about the last bytes, but it will probably be alright
[04:54] <DasEi> kravlin: we can try, but I can't guarantee commands work on arch
[04:54] <sync3times> alazyworkaholic, if you are going to md5  then dont compress until the end.  not transmit.
[04:54] <alazyworkaholic> ok
[04:54] <Sean93> how do i test a script i just wrote?
[04:54] <DasEi> kravlin: can you install a paster (pastebionit) ?
[04:54] <DasEi> pastebinit*
[04:55] <sync3times> Sean93,   bash?
[04:55] <kravlin> DasEi: probably not until i install a graphical interface :(
[04:55] <alazyworkaholic> sync3times: Thank you.
[04:55] <Sean93> sync3times, I don't know
[04:55] <DasEi> kravlin: which packagemanagement ?
[04:55] <sync3times> alazyworkaholic,   welcome.   have fun.
[04:55] <needlez> Sean93: if its a bash  chmod 777 first then sudo ./nameofscript.sh
[04:55] <sync3times> Sean93,  what language is your script
[04:55] <alazyworkaholic> sync3times: I'll look into socat next time I have to do this.
[04:56] <cj123> hey...i get this error compiling blender need help..'/Python-3.1/conftest.c:58: warning: warning: chflags is not implemented and will always fail'
[04:56] <kravlin> DasEi: pacman. it's arch-specific i think :(
[04:56] <sync3times> alazyworkaholic, I try to let people know about it whenver I  can.   It is so damn pretty
[04:56] <ashu> hi
[04:56] <Sean93> sync3times, can i PM you?
[04:56] <sync3times> Sean93, ok
[04:56] <ashu> am looking for ns2 help
[04:57] <DasEi> kravlin: pacman -Ss pastebin*
[04:57] <AbhiJit> ashu, ask
[04:57] <ashu> I want to install gui for ns2
[04:58] <chaos2358> needlez,
[04:58] <needlez> anyone got any ideas what to do to fix a computers sleepmode since it wont kick in if totem is open even if nothin is running it wont sleep /suspend
[04:58] <kravlin> DasEi: Nothing.
[04:58] <randy_> how to use kde4 and gnome in the same time,like gnome in tty7 and kde in tty8
[04:58] <kravlin> DasEi: I have the grub entries from Ubuntu.
[04:59] <DasEi> kravlin: wrong chan here, would have to set up yaourt
[04:59] <kravlin> DasEi: don't worry about it then. i'll puzzle it out.
[04:59] <DasEi> kravlin: with out a gui it'll be hard to find the corrrect information
[05:00] <DasEi> kravlin: it's an easy task, also there is #grub, but I'm not fit in arch
[05:00] <DasEi> kravlin: ubuntu also crypted ?
[05:00] <ashu> ahhijit: can you help me for install GUI for NS
[05:01] <AbhiJit> randy_, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=41536
[05:01] <kravlin> DasEi: nope. therefore i don't have to put in a file or a keyword to start it. it's so if the laptop is stolen the only runnable os is the ubuntu one, which has prey installed so I can get it back.
[05:01] <MopperWhite> 解决了！太感动了！
[05:01] <AbhiJit> ashu, do you have its .deb?
[05:01] <AbhiJit> randy_, http://www.novell.com/coolsolutions/tip/15289.html
[05:01] <DasEi> kravlin: should be possible then, call fdisk -l as root
[05:02] <ashu> Abhijit: no, i have .tar
[05:02] <kravlin> DasEi: ubuntu's on /dev/sda6
[05:02] <DasEi> kravlin: get the root partition.. (ubuntu)
[05:02] <AbhiJit> !compile | ashu
[05:02] <randy_> AbhiJit, but I want it run when  I boot
[05:03] <AbhiJit> randy_, dunno
[05:03] <r007> .
[05:03] <kravlin> DasEi: i have the ubuntu version of grub as well, grub's just pointing towards the arch boot partition
[05:03] <MopperWhite> #ubuntu-cn
[05:03] <randy_> AbhiJit, what is dunno,a program ?
[05:03] <kravlin> DasEi: is it possible to just use the chainloader to load ubuntu?
[05:03] <Steve973> if I use dpkg -i and then use apt-get -f install, and then if the repo gets an update to my manually installed package, will apt-get dist-upgrade upgrade that package?
[05:03] <DasEi> kravlin: does it work ?
[05:04] <AbhiJit> randy_, i don know
[05:04] <DasEi> kravlin: did you install ubuntu-grub to /sda6 ?
[05:04] <r007> Steve973 no
[05:04] <linuxIsCommunist> is linux better than windows?
[05:04] <kravlin> DasEi: no, i installed it to sda like an idiot :(
[05:04] <nesbitt> could someone help me with transmission-daemon?  i have just installed it and got it running all ok, but i don't think it can access the folders i'd like it to use (for storing downloads and watching for torrents).  i can see that the daemon is running as user 119.  i'd like the folders it uses to be read/write accessible for the group, but not everyone.  should i get transmission to run as a different user? how can i do this?
[05:04] <DasEi> Steve973: yes
[05:04] <r007> Steve973 only what is installed from the repos will upgrade from the repos
[05:04] <randy_> AbhiJit, but you send me dunno
[05:04] <Steve973> roo7 DasEi which one of you is correct?
[05:04] <kravlin> DasEi: I might be able to use super grub disk to get into ubuntu and then install it to sda6
[05:05] <ashu> another problem, I unable to upgrade my ubuntu, once I start to upgrade it but due to internet problem it stop, after that this problem came
[05:05] <billybigrigger> nesbitt, that would be done in the daemon config, if there is an option for it
[05:05] <DasEi> Steve973: dpkg - i , no wait, won't
[05:06] <Steve973> I'd like to upgrade to subsonic 4.2.  The deb is out but it's not in maverick :)
[05:06] <randy_> AbhiJit,  you said randy_, dunno
[05:06] <r007> Steve973 Im correct :D
[05:06] <DasEi> kravlin: then could go with chainloader, but a simply menu-entry should also work
[05:06] <nesbitt> billybigrigger: do you mean an option for which user to run as?
 dunno = i dont know
[05:08] <r007> Steve973 even if you add another repo for a package and later disable it the main ubuntu repos will not upgrade it
[05:08] <randy_> AbhiJit, cool,is it english phrase
[05:09] <Steve973> randy_ it's a stupid way of saying I don't know.  AOLbonics = suck
[05:09] <ShapeShifter499> someone please help me with the following problem ---> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1651946
[05:09] <Steve973> thanks for the help roo7 and DasEi
[05:09] <DasEi> kravlin: a reason for grub2 on sda6 could be kernel-updates
[05:09] <Steve973> i'm out of here
[05:10] <kravlin> DasEi: could be. but i don't ever plan on updating my copy of ubuntu (i know that sounds horrible but i don't really plan on running it either, it's literally there as a trap)
[05:10] <ashu> Abhijit: Sorry i have .jar file
[05:10] <c_nick> anyone know a good mac channel for Apple Webkit ?
[05:11] <DasEi> kravlin: also, if you installed on sda6, could try os-prober (it should find arch on sda) this will auto-generate a chain to grub1, then just boot from sda6 (boot-flag)
[05:11] <AbhiJit> ashu, http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-504905.html
[05:12] <r007> kralvin make sure sda has a mount point
[05:12] <AbhiJit> ashu, http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-202163.html
[05:12] <randy_> how both use kde4 and gnome and I want it run when  I boot
[05:12] <randy_> AbhiJit, thank you a lot
[05:12] <kravlin> DasEi: that could work too.
[05:13] <DasEi> kravlin: prbly best solution, case you run in trouble > native support possible, and least one os accessible, if messed up
[05:13] <r007> randy_ if you install kde you should get a choice of which X to use at login
[05:14] <DasEi> randy_: if you choose no automatic login, can set the session before login in
[05:14] <randy_> r007, I konw,but I want to both using it and run auto
[05:15] <r007> auto login this is not windows lol
[05:15] <DasEi> r007: I autologin
[05:15] <randy_> DasEi, I want to using it in the same time ,in different tty and run whan I boot
[05:15] <r007> didnt say you cant....
[05:15] <r007> this is Linux after all
[05:15] <DasEi> randy_: can't , use vm's
[05:15] <needlez> anyone got any ideas what to do to fix a computers sleepmode since it wont kick in if totem is open even if nothin is running it wont sleep /suspend
[05:16] <randy_> DasEi, well,I feel cold
[05:16] <ashu> Abhijit, I got error message "nsBench-1.0b3.jar: 2: Syntax error: ")" unexpected"
[05:16] <AbhiJit> randy_, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1610402
[05:16] <ashu> what I do next
[05:17] <AbhiJit> randy_, http://maketecheasier.com/how-to-setup-dual-monitors-with-xrandr/2009/06/01
[05:17] <ld> how do i specify which version of java will run by default?
[05:17] <AbhiJit> randy_, http://www.linux-archive.org/gentoo-user/447730-setting-up-two-monitors.html
[05:17] <skraito> anyone from asia here ?
[05:18] <AbhiJit> ashu, try asking in #java
[05:18] <AbhiJit> skraito, yes?
[05:18] <ld> how do i specify which version of java will run by default?
[05:18] <randy_> AbhiJit, your way is more fun,I one have one monitor
[05:18] <AbhiJit> aahh
[05:19] <ld> how do i specify which version of java will run by default?
[05:19] <DasEi> randy_: use virtualbox
[05:19] <ld> how do i configure which version of java will run by default?
[05:19] <r007> Abhijit, I got error message "nsBench-1.0b3.jar: 2: Syntax error: ")" unexpected" that sounds like an error with the java code and theres a un needed ) somewhere in the syntax
[05:20] <AbhiJit> r007, hmmmmmm?
[05:20] <r007> or a line has not been closed off no java programmer but usually a ;
[05:20] <randy_> DasEi, don't think this way,and I use vmware
[05:20] <ashu> abhijit, its not java, It may be in c++
[05:20] <DasEi> randy_: or have it there
[05:20] <AbhiJit> ashu, cant help
[05:21] <randy_> DasEi, have it here?
[05:21] <r007> if its .jar its java
[05:21] <DasEi> randy_: a different surface in parallel
[05:22] <alazyworkaholic> I'm gonna have a big file to compress in a couple hours, but I wanna go to bed. I could find out how to set a timer, but is there any way I can have a command (pbzip2 for example) run as soon as a file transfer (using nc, netcat) finishes?
[05:22] <icesword> hi
[05:22] <DasEi> alazyworkaholic: yes, use &&
 yes you can make a cron for rysync to backup to an archive
[05:22] <AbhiJit> ashu, http://ns-2.blogspot.com/2006/05/problem-in-installing-ns-2292-allinone.html
[05:22] <alazyworkaholic> DasEi: right, but once it's already started?
[05:23] <DasEi> alazyworkaholic: commandHere && shutdown -h now , from a rootprompt
[05:23] <DasEi> alazyworkaholic: timer
[05:23] <AbhiJit> ashu, http://mailman.isi.edu/pipermail/ns-users/2006-September/057322.html
[05:23] <DasEi> alazyworkaholic: maybe could watch the pid, but I'moverasked there
[05:23] <randy_> DasEi, I don't know what you said,I'm chinese
[05:24] <alazyworkaholic> DasEi: ok, thanks
[05:24] <DasEi> randy_: I'm not; you can have different desktops in parallel in vm's at te same time
[05:25] <AbhiJit> :/
[05:25] <randy_> DasEi, I know,but I will never think this,even I often use vm
[05:25] <AbhiJit> ashu_, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1465269
[05:25]  * skraito say hi all
[05:26] <AbhiJit> ashu_, i gave u 3 links. u got all?
[05:26] <shazbotmcnasty> why am i in this channel
[05:26] <kravlin> ;p;
[05:26] <kravlin> lol
[05:27] <needlez> anyone got any ideas what to do to fix a computers sleepmode since it wont kick in if totem is open even if nothin is running it wont sleep /suspend
[05:27] <tq> yy
[05:27] <randy_> AbhiJit, DasEi ,thank you I will think myself
[05:27] <AbhiJit> Random832, welcome
[05:27] <AbhiJit> aahh
[05:28] <randy_> how to use ssh with desktop,I said I can watch the remote PC desktop
[05:28] <needlez> anyone??
[05:28] <AbhiJit> randy_, welcome
[05:28] <r007> randy_ you need to install an ssh server first like open ssh use apt
[05:29] <randy_> r007, had done,and open x11_forward
[05:29] <r007> randy_ so your tunnelling over ssh?
[05:29] <sacarlson> randy_: sound like you want something like vnc if you want to view the remote desktops screen
[05:29] <needlez> anyone??
[05:30] <randy_> r007, I don't know tune,I use ssh <IP_ADDRESS> -x
[05:30] <r007> randy_ run it by me what you want to achieve
[05:30] <glitchd> anyone know anything about teamviewer problems?
[05:30] <HeTaL> Hello. After upgrading to 10.04 from my 9.10, Everything worked perfectly for a day. After that, when I boot, I get a small shell view saying multiple things have failed, with a mention of virtual ether something. After that it's like my wireless doesn't exist. Doing ifconfig shows that neither wlan or eth are detected. Wireless works fine on windows, as does ethernet. Ideas?
[05:30] <AbhiJit> glitchd, what problem?
[05:31] <randy_> sacarlson, may be like it,but vnc is not security
[05:31] <sacarlson> randy_: ssh -X <IP_ADDRESS>  will work to run the application on the remote and view it only on the side of the client.  so is that what you want?
[05:31] <AbhiJit> brb
[05:31] <glitchd> AbhiJit, everytime anyone connects to me, they control my mouse but all they see is a black screen, however i can connect to them just fine.
[05:32] <HeTaL> sacarlson: How can you run it and view it serverside?
[05:32] <needlez> hey glitchd
[05:32] <randy_> sacarlson, but it don't show angthings to me,and can it both show in server?
[05:32] <glitchd> needlez, yea>
[05:32] <glitchd> *?
[05:32] <Al3xG0> use !cpf N
[05:32] <needlez> HeTaL: that script did you figure anything more out??
[05:33] <HeTaL> Unfortunately not. My linux is dead
[05:33] <HeTaL> An update busted it hard.
[05:33] <HeTaL> Trying to make it work. :(
[05:33] <F3RR1S> hey... i am going to create individual partitions for ubuntu (/, /boot, /home, /var, /usr, /tmp, and swap) what sizes should these be? I have a 200GB drive
[05:33] <needlez> HeTaL: I sorries to hear that
[05:34] <F3RR1S> I haven't really thought about it before but now I am planning to keep ubuntu on this system... I will have 3 users
[05:34] <HeTaL> I might have to do a clean install, but I'm at my dad's place, so no empty disks, and since it's christmas, no place to get empty cds.
[05:34] <sacarlson> randy_: what X application are you trying to run on your server and see on your client?
[05:35] <Random832> F3RR1S: /boot should be half a gig or so at the _very beginning_ of the drive.
[05:35] <randy_> sacarlson, many like openoffice
[05:35] <sacarlson> HeTaL: as stated you can run it on the server side and see it on both sides with vnc  as in vino
[05:35] <HeTaL> Isn't there a way to just execute it on the X server of the server without vnc?
[05:35] <rdw200169> F3RR1S: well, in my opinion, you can keep /boot /var /usr /tmp swap and / relatively small, compared to /home.  you'll find you waste the most space in /home.  now, personally, i like to use /opt for stuff i install that does not tie closely w/the ubuntu libraries etc... like chrome, but, hey to each their own.  regardless, i use a lot of space in /opt for stuff that is used by all the users
[05:36] <sacarlson> randy_: I guess that would work.  I run nautilus that is an X app and it works with  ssh -X hostip
[05:36] <Random832> maybe a gig for /boot
[05:36] <sacarlson> randy_: make sure you use capital -X
[05:36] <Random832> but not much more - you want it to be within 1024 cylinders, since some bioses require that
[05:36] <randy_> sacarlson, and I want to it like a remote learning
[05:36] <Random832> rdw200169: you could always ln -s /opt /usr/opt
[05:37] <sacarlson> randy_: then what you want is vnc  like vino
[05:37] <rdw200169> Random832: sure, but why would i do that, when i have a separate partition for /opt?  easy and painless, thats what.
[05:37] <Random832> and allocate whatever space you'd say for both those into one partition
[05:37] <nesbitt> rdw200169:  why have separate partitions?  if you don't know how big they are going to be, don't you get the most versatility out of one shared partition (not disagreeing, just a noob trying to understand)
[05:37] <nirazio> How do I remove Rhythmbox from the sound menu? Also, I wish for Rhythmbox to close when the "X" is clicked, can I do these things?
[05:38] <HeTaL> Hello. After upgrading to 10.04 from my 9.10, Everything worked perfectly for a day. After that, when I boot, I get a small shell view saying multiple things have failed, with a mention of virtual ether something. After that it's like my wireless doesn't exist. Doing ifconfig shows that neither wlan or eth are detected. Wireless works fine on windows, as does ethernet. Ideas?
[05:38] <F3RR1S> rdw200169, yeah... i ran into some issues when I installed a lot of packages and ended up reinstalling on my laptop... should have used gparted... which is why I want to make sure I have plenty of space
[05:38] <Madpilot> nirazio, right-click on the Applications menu, select Edit Menu. You can toggle what's visible.
[05:38] <sacarlson> randy_: you can also activate vino remotely if you have privliges of that user or sudo in the host http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=266981
[05:38] <randy_> sacarlson, r007 ,thank you
[05:38] <r007> randy_ no probs
[05:39] <Random832> anyway
[05:39] <rdw200169> nesbitt: when you want to install a new copy of ubuntu, or some other distro of linux, you need an empty partition to install to.  but, you want to share certain aspects of your life across several installations, right?  like your /home folder, this is very common.  your /home holds all your personal customizations and such that you would reasonably want to use synonymously between several distributions
[05:39] <kravlin> DasEi: got it working!
[05:39] <r007> HeTaL sounds like your kernel may have upgraded have you tried selecting an alternate from grub
[05:39] <Random832> i'm running gdmap
[05:40] <nesbitt> rdw200169:  i see, that makes sense,  so that means /home should be it's own, and swap obviously has to be.  what about /boot?   should that be separate to / ?
[05:40] <DasEi> kravlin: nice, which way ?
[05:40] <rdw200169> nesbitt: the most important reason has to do with the stuff you want to keep, and the stuff you don't mind losing, after a re-installation.  generally, if you were to re-install ubuntu, like a clean upgrade from 10.04 -> 10.10, you would separate your /home from your / then format the old / partition and install the new ubuntu there (if there is no more space to add another partition.  thus, your informa
[05:40] <rdw200169> tion is safe during the upgrade
[05:41] <HeTaL> r007: Yes. I got different errors, but that still didn't fix it.
[05:41] <Random832> nesbitt: some setups and some bioses require certain boot files to be in the first 1024 partitions [7.5GB or so] of the disk
[05:41] <rdw200169> nesbitt: swap needs to be on its own, because its a special partition type devoted to providing that extra ram-boost.
[05:41] <Random832> er, first 1024 *cylinders
[05:42] <r007> Hetal does lspci pick up your wireless controller
[05:42] <Random832> mine's like that for instance, it was hard to track down
[05:42] <nesbitt> Random832, rdw200169: ok.  what about /var /usr and /tmp?
[05:42] <HeTaL> r007: I'll have to check. Should I do anything else while I'm there?
[05:42] <rdw200169> nesbitt: heh, i've never ran into problems with that 1024 thing with /boot being inside /, but every bios is different
[05:42] <HeTaL> Maybe try wlan0 up?
[05:43] <william> hi, I've been trying to get hardware video card working on ubuntu 10.10, having lots of trouble - is this the right place to ask?
[05:43] <tuxxman> hello, I'm having trouble connecting to anything that requires SSL (dropbox won't connect, chrome won't connect to anything SSL-related)
[05:43] <sagat> puuuts todo mundo ai é gringo
[05:43] <Random832> nesbitt: i'd actually recommend /var and /tmp on the same partition (ln -s /tmp /var/tmp)
[05:43] <HeTaL> tuxxman: Do you have ssl supplicant installed?
[05:43] <sagat> fudeu
[05:43] <tuxxman> HeTaL: I'm not sure, but everything was working fine until this evening
[05:44] <nesbitt> Random832:  lumped in with / ?
[05:44] <HeTaL> Did you update recently?
[05:44] <rdw200169> nesbitt: if you reference the standard, this might help http://dhavalv.wordpress.com/2007/10/17/quick-introduction-to-linux-filesystem-fhs/
[05:44] <tuxxman> yes
[05:44] <Random832> not necessarily
[05:44] <r007> hetal check your network settings are ok and that the wireless adapter is being picked up other than that you probably need to upgrade the driver
[05:44] <tuxxman> HeTaL: yes, but i think I restarted and used SSL afterwards
[05:45] <nesbitt> rdw200169: thanks
[05:45] <Random832> anyway - the actual disk space usage on my system is 2.07GB /usr, 530MB /var, 300MB /lib, maybe 100MB /everything else in /, and then HUEG /home
[05:45] <Random832> now, you'll want room to grow, a 100% full partition is never good even if your figures end up similar
[05:45] <rdw200169> nesbitt: or this, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filesystem_Hierarchy_Standard
[05:46] <magicjoe> i want to
[05:46] <Random832> i'd probably say, give / [including /usr and everything] 10-15GB, a decent amount of swap, and make the rest /home
[05:46] <Random832> or leave room to maybe install other OSes later
[05:46] <rdw200169> nesbitt: yeah, i pretty much do the same as Random832
[05:46] <tuxxman> anybody else have any  ideas on SSL not working?
[05:47] <nesbitt> so it sounds like the way to go is separate /, /home and maybe /boot
[05:47] <Random832> oh yeah and /boot
[05:47] <rdw200169> tuxxman: could be a dual-homed internet connection problem, but i doubt it
[05:47] <Random832> give /boot a gigabyte or so at the start of the disk
[05:47] <Random832> i would also recommend that /boot is a primary partition and the rest are extnded partitions
[05:47] <tuxxman> rdw200169: I am on a new network since I last used it
[05:47] <nesbitt> Random832: what's the difference?
[05:47] <alkisg> Now with upstart, what executes /etc/init.d/* services? They're not started for me on a fat client...
[05:48] <newUbuntuBoy> quit
[05:48] <magicjoe> ANYONE, i need to make a .bsh script run at startup. i have the command in the startup programs list. the file has wrx permissions. it is in my /bin directory. the command i use at startup is ".scriptname.bsh" but it doesn't work. i have even tried "source /bin/scriptname.bsh" and that works in a terminal, but NOT from the startup programs. ANY help?
[05:48] <Random832> nesbitt: there's not much really, though i think you need a primary partition to boot with MBR
[05:48] <r007> tuxman when you say ssl is not working can you elaborate
[05:48] <Random832> extended partitions are more flexible, you're not limited to four
[05:48] <nirazio> I have a poster I would like to print. It is far larger than a single sheet of paper that can fit in my printer. What is a program that I can use to print it out on separate sheets of paper (to assemble later)?
[05:49] <tuxxman> r007: Nothing can connect to a secure site (dropbox, chrome, svn) all fails
[05:49] <r007> tuxman can you telnet to 443?
[05:49] <nesbitt> ok.  i think i must have gotten simalar advice to what you guys are giving, i set my server up with 1GB /boot, 4GB swap, 16GB / and ~500GB (the rest) LVM for home
[05:50] <sync3times> nirazio, good question.   You might try using openoffice draw
[05:50] <DasEi> nirazio: or gimp and set paper to used format, then look at the options
[05:50] <william> how do i find out what graphics card ubuntu 10.10 is detecting?
[05:51] <Madpilot> nirazio, I think GIMP will do multi-page printing like that. Not sure, though.
[05:51] <r007> william lspci | grep vga or lspci | grep VGA
[05:51] <DasEi> nirazio: I once did such and then used little frames, so I could glue it together
[05:51] <linux_hacks> i'm running out of disk space in root partition.. how do I resize to increase?
[05:51] <ShapeShifter499> can someone please help me with the following problem ---> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1651946
[05:51] <tuxxman> r007: that yields a connection refused
[05:52] <DasEi> linux_hacks: from a live cd and afterward coorect the blkid's
[05:52] <r007> tuxxman looks like a network issue then
[05:52] <sync3times> linux_hacks,  whats taking the space up?
[05:52] <linux_hacks> user folder
[05:52] <william> thanks r007
[05:52] <DasEi> linux_hacks: or create another /home
[05:52] <tuxxman> r007: But other computers on this network work and  have worked for ages
[05:52] <r007> tuxxman would check your iptables first
[05:52] <Doonz> Has nyone had trouble with byobu + irssi + ssh session + putty basically freezing graphically? Like the screen freezes but my key coomands will still get to the box
[05:53] <linux_hacks> yeah, unfortunately.. I installed most of my apps in that home folder..
[05:53] <linux_hacks> If I change I should reinstall and configure all of them
[05:54]  * skraito brb
[05:54] <DasEi> linux_hacks: no need, just add seperate home to fstab and rsync over
[05:55] <F3RR1S> nesbitt, I don't know if you have seen this article but I think it might be helpful... https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/installation-guide/i386/apcs03.html
[05:55] <linux_hacks> DaseI: but if I create seperate home.. I only have option creating in LVM's
[05:55] <nesbitt> F3RR1S: oh cool, thanks
[05:55] <linux_hacks> DaseI: did you understand what I mean?
[05:55] <DasEi> linux_hacks: that's no problem, can have it in extended and give fstab blkid
[05:56] <tuxxman> r007: SSL works fine on windows machines on this network
[05:56] <linux_hacks> DaseI: could you forward me for procedure if you have any links?
[05:56] <r007> tuxxman like I said check iptables
[05:56] <DasEi> linux_hacks: we can do it now, pm me ?
[05:57] <linux_hacks> DaseEI: sure thing.. let me put u and me in one on one chat
[05:57] <tuxxman> check for what
[05:57] <magicjoe> can anyone tell me how to make a source command work at startup? i just have a few aliases in a .bsh file and if i run "source /bin/filename.src" then my aliases work. BUT if i put the command in startup applications, the aliases do not work. PLEASE HELP ME SET THIS UP SOMEONE, ANYONE.
[05:58] <r007> tuxxman blockages for https ....
[05:58] <randomdude> Hello i have redirected the logs of my computer to a tty, i wonder if theres a way to get that output into x in a pts type of console
[05:59] <dewman> evening....I am having a issue with my login screen, when i enter my username and password it acts like it is going to log in, but then it goes right back to the log in window....I am using 10.04
[05:59] <tuxxman> r007: but I don't understand why this would just start randomly i didn't edit the iptables
[05:59] <sync3times> randomdude,  leave them going into a file and     tail -f the files
[06:00] <randomdude> sync3times, yeah i wondered that but the file would be huge after a time
[06:00] <sacarlson> randomdude: I would think you want to look a changes in your logs so you might look at using tail -f  /path/to/log/file
[06:00] <r007> tuxxman have you changed anything on your system and have you checked the update logs?
[06:00] <sync3times> randomdude,  over what time period
[06:01] <tuxxman> no
[06:01] <randomdude> sync3times, i used that before but i wonder if theres some way of redirecting the raw output
[06:01] <r007> also iptables changes arent permenant unless you wrote them to file so a reboot would reset
[06:01] <glitchd> anyone have a fix for teamviewer and a black screen?
[06:01] <tuxxman> r007: just connected to a new network, but other computers on the network don't have ssl issues
[06:02] <r007> and all computers are the same arent they
[06:02] <randomdude> wihtout creating a file
[06:02] <randomdude> or making a temporal one
[06:02] <r007> going to bed
[06:02] <randomdude> just for the session
[06:02] <sacarlson> randomdude: I'm not sure why you want to redirect but you could tail -f /path/to/logfile >/path/to/redirected/log
[06:03] <tuxxman> will anybody else help
[06:03] <privism> wow, so many people here
[06:04] <randomdude> sacarlson, i would like to have a live feed of the logs if necessary in a console inside X, i normaly log em to /dev/tty8 via *.* in syslog
[06:06] <sacarlson> randomdude: we normaly use a terminal in x called gnome-terminal  with that you can ssh into remotes or look at local points with tail -f ...
[06:07] <randomdude> sacarlson, can i tail the outpout of a tty?
[06:07] <randomdude> Its not a file right?
[06:07] <arooni-mobile___> cant update shotwell connect due to: "cd: 156: can't cd to /usr/local/bin/ztemtApp/zteusbserial/2.6.32 dpkg: error processing crossplatformui (--configure): subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 2"
[06:07] <arooni-mobile___> how can i fix this?
[06:08] <sacarlson> randomdude: I'm not even sure what tty is. I use terminals
[06:09] <randomdude> sacarlson, thanks for trying anyway
[06:09] <sacarlson> randomdude: have you tried gnome-terminal?
[06:10] <randomdude> sacarlson, yeah dont worry look hit ctrl alt and f1 then ctrl alt and f7 back
[06:10] <randomdude> dat's a tty
[06:10] <randomdude> lol
[06:10] <sacarlson> randomdude: so your not in the X server then when you want to view?
[06:11] <randomdude> no
[06:11] <randomdude> i have the output redirected out of X
[06:11] <randomdude> i want it be able to access it from X
[06:11] <randomdude> without having to go outside
[06:11] <sacarlson> randomdude: have you tried ssh?
[06:11] <randomdude> to a log?
[06:12] <randomdude> lol
[06:12] <sacarlson> randomdude: yes I view logs from ssh all the time
[06:12]  * cowboydren howdies
[06:12] <randomdude> how?
[06:13] <shingen> randomdude: I've heard about piping stuff to tty devices, but tailing a tty device?  sure it's doable, just not sure why
[06:13] <randomdude> you can pipe via ssh to ur tty?
[06:13] <cowboydren> I wonder if somebody could help me find track down a problem with my SATA hardware.
[06:13] <shingen> randomdude: have you tried tail -f /dev/tty0 ?
[06:13] <snarkster> randomdude: you can start an X session thru ssh and then use logview
[06:13] <randomdude> shingen yeah
[06:13] <sacarlson> randomdude: start gnome-terminal;  ssh ipofhostwithlogs; tail -f /path/to/log/file
[06:13] <snarkster> whats the matter with your sata hardware
[06:13] <randomdude> nope
[06:14] <randomdude> Look
[06:14] <randomdude> Let me explain you
[06:14] <cowboydren> snarkster, my hd access light is almost constantly lit, whether I can  hear the disk in IO or not.
[06:14] <randomdude> I added a line in the syslog config of my machine, wich redirects all the system logs to a tty (tty8)
[06:14] <randomdude> So whenever i go there i read logs as they go into the system
[06:14] <snarkster> does it effect how the system is working?
[06:14] <randomdude> all logs
[06:15] <randomdude> What i want to do
[06:15] <randomdude> is redirect that output
[06:15] <randomdude> into a X terminal
[06:15] <sacarlson> randomdude: well turn that off and use tail
[06:15] <cowboydren> snarkster, no, but it worries me because the next thing I want to do is put an SSD in this sucker, and I don't want anything worse to happen.
[06:15] <randomdude> Without creating a file
[06:15] <cowboydren> I have a long history of frying disks and disk controllers. :)
[06:15] <snarkster> have you checked the drive
[06:16] <cowboydren> I'd love to. Where shall I start?
[06:16] <snarkster> install smart and check the drive
[06:16] <sacarlson> randomdude: oh so there is no disk space for the logs so you need to output it in this method?
[06:16] <cowboydren> snarkster, the last GUI tool I looked at said the disk was fine.
[06:16] <snarkster> then the disk is fine
[06:17] <snarkster> maybe the controller is dieing?
[06:17] <randomdude> sacarlson logs are already being filed, but in separate ones, this is like a supervision interface
[06:17] <randomdude> to see things as they happen
[06:17] <cowboydren> This laptop is a week old. I sure hope not.
[06:17] <snarkster> have you looked at the bios of the sata card
[06:17] <snarkster> oh its built in then
[06:18] <snarkster> see you left that out
[06:18] <sacarlson> randomdude: so what would viewing from tty differ from the view from tail -f?
[06:18] <FlozuzMozuz> So I am fairly new to linux (about a week in) and I installed Ubuntu on an old laptop. I have found that the terminal is where ive been spending all my time, and I was wondering if anyone could suggest some cool CLI programs I could fiddle around with.
[06:18] <cowboydren> I only noticed this running the amd64 kernel, and only the -25 (?) release of it. I'm hesitant to go back to the x86 kernel.
[06:18] <shingen> randomdude: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=874757 should help you... you just need to change perms on /dev/tty8
[06:18] <randomdude> ty
[06:18] <shingen> randomdude: so you can read or write to the teletype device, aka tty
[06:18] <snarkster> well cowboydren I run the amd64 kernel
[06:18] <cowboydren> Linux bec-Aspire-5252 2.6.35-24-generic #42-Ubuntu SMP Thu Dec 2 02:41:37 UTC 2010 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[06:18] <sacarlson> thanks shingen: I was lost
[06:19] <synackfin> is there any generic way to know which ethX devices belong to a particular kernel module? (e.g. I have two, intel and broadcom, and want to get the intel eth devices)
[06:19] <cowboydren> .35-24, I guess.
[06:19] <snarkster> Ive not noticed the hd light staying on
[06:19] <snarkster> hmmm
[06:19] <randomdude> nap not usefull
[06:20] <randomdude> i want to do the reverse thing
[06:20] <randomdude> lol
[06:20] <randomdude> redirect output to X
[06:20] <cowboydren> ten years ago, I was a certified Linux administrator. I'm so rusty, it's embarrassing.
[06:20] <randomdude> not open extra X terminals
[06:20] <randomdude> nor sessions
[06:20] <snarkster> dont let it embarrass you.. Ive got 20 years on desktop technician and young kids run circles around me
[06:21] <shingen> randomdude: if chmod o+r /dev/tty8 , you should be able to tail -f /dev/tty8
[06:21] <cowboydren> I used to work for the same company that employed Andre whatisname; the linux-udma guy. Really wish I still had his number. ;)
[06:22] <snarkster> lol
[06:22] <randomdude> shingen, did it with sudo and didnt worked
[06:22] <randomdude> :S
[06:22] <cowboydren> Weird guy, but he could make an IDE disk scream.
[06:22] <cowboydren> Which I followed...hence my history of frying ATA controllers. ;)
[06:23] <shingen> cowboydren: hunt him down, http://www.linkedin.com/in/andrehedrick
[06:23] <cowboydren> lol
[06:23] <snarkster> hmm i gotta go.. ttyl Merry Christmas guys
[06:28] <beginner> duh!!
[06:28] <Doonz> hey does anyone know howto stream something over ssh to vlc
[06:30] <shingen> Doonz: udp stream or tcp?
[06:30] <Doonz> shingen: i could do either
[06:31] <Doonz> basically i have my home server and im at work and i wanna stream some videos i have at home to my work laptop
[06:31] <shingen> Doonz: http://www.debianadmin.com/howto-perform-udp-tunneling-through-ssh-connection.html
[06:31] <Doonz> ok im on a windows box
[06:31] <shingen> Doonz: same for tcp minus the netcat, since all you need to do is ssh port tunneling
[06:32] <shingen> Doonz: install cygwin :)
[06:32] <defage> exit
[06:32] <shingen> defage: thats /part
[06:33] <hblount> hi. anyone know what the 2 temperatures on xsensors means?
[06:34] <shingen> hblount: depends on your hardware, but it's usually cpu and ambient
[06:34] <skraito> anyone from indonesia
[06:34] <skraito> ?
[06:34] <shingen> hblount:
[06:34] <hblount> shingo: ok thanks
[06:36] <paq7512> what program would you recommend to backup?
[06:36] <CWO_DOLphin> hy
[06:37] <sgo11> hi, I am trying to shutdown eth0. when I do sudo ifdown eth0, I got the error:"ifdown: interface eth0 not configured", why? my network is working via eth0 currently. thanks.
[06:37] <yealin> 请问怎么消除ubuntu rar 乱码
[06:37] <shingen> paq7512: me personally, I use rdiff-backup and rdiff-web, keeps deltas for any frequency and rdiff-web is an easy gui interface for recovery
[06:38] <sync350> so this may be a stupid question, but I'm using "dmidecode --type 17" to see my ram information, and only the first one has data.  There's three more entries, but for size, the next three say "No Module Installed".  I'm assuming that means that I have three open slots right?  Or does that mean I don't have any other slots period?
[06:38] <sacarlson> shingen: I think I found what randomdude: was looking for a program called screen that is run from the tty console to log all to a file http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1379903
[06:38] <CWO_DOLphin> hjyhujyujyhuyj
[06:38] <CWO_DOLphin> ghgjh\
[06:38] <shingen> sacarlson: naah, screen won't output a tty... I used screen since '93 :P
[06:39] <sgo11> yealin, please join ubuntu-cn channel.
[06:39] <shingen> sacarlson: heck, I used the pretty version of screen, byobu, to test echo to tty0 while tailing it in another screen ;)
[06:40] <DasEi>  ubottu: join ke #ubuntu-id untuk membahas ubuntu dalam bahasa Indonesia, skraito
[06:40] <skraito> i didnt know there is indonesia ubuntu
[06:41] <sacarlson> shingen: the man page shows this screen -r [[pid.]tty[.host]]   and screen -L  to activate output to screen.log file
[06:42] <cdbs> CWO_DOLphin: please stop it
[06:42] <icesword> hi
[06:43] <ox3a> Any tools in Ubuntu which can connect to remote mssql server (Client)?
[06:43] <shingen> sacarlson: -r is to resume existing screens, after using ctrl-d to detach... screen is used to detach console sessions to be resumed at a later time
[06:43] <Tannerbaum> ox3a: I use MySQL workbench, i think it's called
[06:44] <ox3a> Tannerbaum, MySQL work for mssql also?
[06:44] <Tannerbaum> ahh, nevermind
[06:44] <icesword> hi
[06:44] <Tannerbaum> I saw "M*sql"
[06:45] <Tannerbaum> assumed that it was mysql (The human brain only really looks at the first and last letter of a word, I believe)
[06:45] <shingen> ox3a: what pl you using?
[06:46] <ox3a> shingen, what do you means by "pl"?
[06:46] <shingen> ox3a: programming language
[06:46] <iulian_> what is the general flagship book for learning about the linux kernel? (for noobs)
[06:47] <sacarlson> shingen: I just tested screen -L in gnome-terminal and it captured the activity I did in a file screenlog.0  so I guess that would work on a tty console also?
[06:48] <ox3a> shingen, I am looking for just a client which can connect Microsoft sql server
[06:48] <shingen> sacarlson: the problem is, starting it as tty8...
[06:48] <ox3a> shingen, and i can run my sql query
[06:49] <Goddard> can anyone recommend a simple time sheet tracker?
[06:49] <Myrtti> Goddard: hamster-applet?
[06:49] <rigved> iulian_: linux kernel in a nutshell to learn about the basics of the linux kernel
[06:50] <shingen> ox3a: have you asked yourself what you're going to do with the data afterwards?  there are a bunch of odbc handlers written into php and perl... I don't know of a simple mssql client though
[06:50] <Goddard> Myrtti: thats great but I need to track time based on project and client and it would also be nice to calculate the time and rate
[06:50] <Goddard> Myrtti: i really like that applet it just isn't enough and most others i have seen are to much and way to complicated
[06:51] <rigved> iulian_: that is freely available to download
[06:51] <iulian_> hmm... free you say?
[06:52] <rigved> iulian_: also, getting started with ubuntu 10.04 is a pdf to learn about ubuntu 10.04. there a pdf for 10.10 also available
[06:52] <shingen> rigved: kernel hackers guide was a good place to start when I read it last... that was '94 though :P
[06:52] <rigved> iulian_: yes. free
[06:52] <Ibn_Ali_al-Turki> quick question: I am doing update today and update wants to remove laptop-mode-tools....why?
[06:52] <rigved> shingen: ok
[06:52] <iulian_> thanks rigved ill check it out
[06:53] <iulian_> i also found this http://www.amazon.com/Linux-Kernel-Development-Robert-Love/dp/0672329468/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1293173141&sr=1-1   .. which looks promising
[06:53] <rigved> iulian_: but of you want to go deep, you can do what shingen says or you can tldp.org
[06:53] <rigved> iulian_: tldp.org is one of the linux documentation projects
[06:53] <shingen> Rivged: http://tldp.org/LDP/tlk/tlk.html .... '96 even, it's been awhile :P
[06:53] <sgo11> hi, with sudo ifdown eth0, I got error:"ifdown: interface eth0 not configured". with sudo ifconfig eth0 down, it works fine. why? any ideas?
[06:54] <rigved> shingen: ohh i was also referring to tldp.org only :)
[06:54] <shingen> rivged: it hasn't changed much, you still do insmod to install modules... there are just alot more modules
[06:54] <raevol> is there a simple way to mount a .mdf image in xubuntu ala daemon tools in windows?
[06:55] <rigved> raevol: just right click the image file and click on mount
[06:55] <raevol> rigved: i'm in xubuntu, not sure that's supported in thunar :[
[06:55] <rigved> raevol: you do not need special software to mount an image
[06:55] <shingen> raevol: you might want to check out acetoneiso
[06:56] <rigved> raevol: have you tried that? right click?
[06:56] <rigved> raevol: or you can ask in #xubuntu
[06:56] <tp_> can someone help me with using VLC from the command line? I could proly look it up but if there's someone here that can help i'd rather just be lazy and ask them
[06:56] <raevol> rigved: just tried it
[06:56] <shingen> raevol: to mount proprietary ISO image formats
[06:56] <Eduard> Hello guys
[06:56] <shingen> tp_: man vlc :)
[06:56] <rigved> raevol: ok. maybe it works only with .iso files then. sorry
[06:57] <tp_> too long
[06:57] <tp_> but ok fine
[06:57] <reenignEesreveR-> could someone please help me with NetworkManager not setting up correct routes?
[06:57] <shingen> reenignEesreveR-: how many NICs do you have?
[06:57] <Eduard> Could someone tell me, is it normal, that my CRT monitors screen shape is way off normal bounds, every time i restart computer?
[06:58] <reenignEesreveR-> shingen, I have two 3g USB EVDOs which I want to dial in simultaneously ... they get connected but no new gateway is added in my routing talking (not talking about default route)
[06:58] <Eduard> On Win XP I did not encounter such problems, on 10.10 with nvidia drivers such crap happens
[06:59] <rigved> Eduard: not that i know much about it but have you updated the nvidia drivers?
[06:59] <Goddard> Myrtti: so nothing other than that?
[06:59] <n_i_x> hey all... I just installed ubuntu server 10.04 on my system and told it to install grub to MBR as it's the only OS, after install it reboots to a blinking cursor.. is this a problem with grub?
[07:00] <shingen> reenignEesreveR-: are both IPs on the same subnet?
[07:00] <rigved> n_i_x: no. wait for some time. it should boot normally
[07:00] <Eduard> rigved: my nvidia drivers are of the latest version, i did not install them through Additional drivers, i installed them through nvidia installer
[07:00] <n_i_x> rigved: how long is some time? I let it sit there for like 10 minutes
[07:00] <reenignEesreveR-> shingen, they are different ISPs so i assume they'd be using different subnets
[07:00] <rigved> Eduard: you mean from the NVIDIA website
[07:00] <rigved> ?
[07:00] <Eduard> yes
[07:00] <Myrtti> Goddard:  I have experience on hamster v only, google gives some suggestions but I can't recommend any
[07:01] <iulian_> would I have to know any knowledge before starting to read Linux Kernel in a Nutshell? Should I read a ubuntu linux book first?
[07:01] <shingen> reenignEesreveR-: have you tried to manually add routes?
[07:01] <reenignEesreveR-> shingen, i expect to have a gateway entry for ppp0 and a gateway entry for ppp1 but all i get is two host entries with subnet makss <IP_ADDRESS>
[07:01] <rigved> Eduard: there is a reason that the default NVIDIA drivers are not the latest from NVIDIA. because the lates NVIDIA drivers are unstable
[07:01] <rologo> what is happening with ubuntu mobile? is there going to be a smartphone with ubuntu?
[07:01] <reenignEesreveR-> shingen, i haven't tried that; probably that'd work but I want the PPP to add the entries itself
[07:01] <rigved> Eduard: you should only install what is available in the repositoris
[07:02] <Eduard> rigved: i needed nvidia-96 drivers, the ones in repo's didin't work for me
[07:02] <rigved> !ot | rologo
[07:02] <rologo> thanks rigved
[07:02] <anand> first day in irc
[07:03] <shingen> reenignEesreveR-: might need to look into pppd settings for the auto-routes is where I'd start... but manually adding will confirm it works as expected....
[07:03] <rigved> iulian_: only C or C++ programming language knowledge is required
[07:03] <reenignEesreveR-> shingen, i can certainly add them manually but how do i figure out what routes the ISP is issuing me?
[07:04] <rigved> Eduard: what problem do you have with the NVIDIA drivers from the repositories?
[07:04] <reenignEesreveR-> shingen, all i get is a new entry like this: Dest: <IP_ADDRESS>  GW: <IP_ADDRESS> Flags: UH Iface: ppp0
[07:04] <shingen> reenignEesreveR-: ahh, ic... can you get routes with just one interface enabled?  don't forget that you'll need some way to dtermine what interface is used for what IP range....
[07:05] <Eduard> rigved, after install & restart i was every time thrown into tty1
[07:05] <Eduard> rigved: start x complained about missing nvidia driver in location where it was actually present
[07:05] <Us3r_Unfriendly> how's everyone today?
[07:05] <shingen> reenignEesreveR-: when you have both enabled... e.g., a router to determine which interface to use to send /retrieve traffic...
[07:05] <rigved> Eduard: have you upgraded from 10.04 to 10.10?
[07:06] <Eduard> rigved: it was a clean slate install 10.10
[07:06] <Us3r_Unfriendly> Eduard: did you try to reinstall the nvidia driver?
[07:06] <shingen> reenignEesreveR-: might be better off talking abobut this in #networking... it's not ubuntu specific...
[07:06] <spectrahp> what are PPA files?
[07:06] <rigved> n_i_x: no. it should not take more that 5 minutes on a decent server
[07:06] <Eduard> Us3r_Unfriendly: It did not help, I had to resort to nvidia driver installer
[07:07] <Us3r_Unfriendly> spectrahp: Personal Package Archives
[07:07] <n_i_x> rigved: it's a brand new intel i3 540, 4gb ram
[07:07] <shingen> reenignEesreveR-: because you will need a routing protocol to determine which interface to use for inbound/outbound traffic...  and I'm sure you could use zebra for it, but the guys in #networking would be much more versed in doing so
[07:07] <reenignEesreveR-> shingen, would u mind if i continue here? ... i think im almost there
[07:07] <Us3r_Unfriendly> Eduard: did you generate a xorg.conf and edit the driver in there?
[07:07] <rigved> !ppa | spectrahp
[07:07] <shingen> reenignEesreveR-: I'm just not sure how much more I can help you :)
[07:08] <Eduard> Us3r_Unfriendly: yes, i've ran nvidia-xconfig, it generated xorg.conf, but even then i was getting into tty1
[07:08] <spectrahp> Us3r_Unfriendly, rigved: so they are similar to DEB files?
[07:08] <Eduard> Us3r_Unfriendly: btw, about what modifications you are speaking?
[07:08] <reenignEesreveR-> shingen, alright :)
[07:09] <rigved> Eduard: yes you could have fixed the earlier driver (from the repositoris). i don't know if the new NVIDIA drivers from the website can be fixed similarly. see what Us3r_Unfriendly says ^^
[07:09] <FalleStar> On my laptop if I go into standby/hibernate, then resume it works fine for the rest of the session. If I shutdown or restart following that, GRUB refuses to start period. I have to boot into GParted Live from a bootable USB flash-drive, and then restart again upon which GRUB will start up as normal. Any ideas?
[07:09] <Us3r_Unfriendly> spectrahp: the ppa is a server of known packages you can install...you could download them just as .debs too
[07:09] <rigved> n_i_x: then there is something wrong with the install
[07:09] <rigved> n_i_x: do you see only a blinking cursor?
[07:10] <n_i_x> rigved: yes.. just a blinking cursor in top left of screen
[07:10] <Eduard> Us3r_Unfriendly: i could reinstall my system, but could please then help me to install nvidia-96 drivers?
[07:10] <rigved> n_i_x: can you come to #ubuntu-server
[07:10] <n_i_x> rigved: sure
[07:10] <Us3r_Unfriendly> Eduard: sudo apt-cache search nvidia
[07:11] <n_i_x> didn't realize there was a server chan
[07:11] <shingen>  /join #ubuntu-server
[07:11] <Eduard> Us3r_Unfriendly: wait, i'm now only downloading 10.10 iso
[07:11] <shingen> whoops :)
[07:12] <Us3r_Unfriendly> Eduard: if your going to reinstall why do you want to know then?  The Ubuntu install should install no problems
[07:12] <Us3r_Unfriendly> Eduard: sudo apt-get install nvidia-96
[07:12] <Eduard> Us3r_Unfriendly: Additional drivers in 10.10 do not show that any gpu drivers could be found on my system
[07:13] <Eduard> Us3r_Unfriendly: doing plain apt-get install nvidia-96 makes my system go into tty1 after restart
[07:14] <blink> what is Git? should I get it??
[07:14] <Us3r_Unfriendly> Eduard: sorry i didn't understand...I would from the TTY install the driver/module you need and then restart...if you get back to the TTY screen then generate a xorg.conf and configure it so it reconises your card
[07:14] <shero> woot
[07:14] <sacarlson> reenignEesreveR-: I've had 2 isp's before and tried to distribute load accross them,  it seemed to work in some degree but my users complained they had problems so I setup to just split groups of users to different isp's that seemed to work for me
[07:15] <Us3r_Unfriendly> Eduard: is ubuntu installing your driver by default in the install by chance?
[07:16] <reenignEesreveR-> sacarlson, load balancing etc is a different issue ... i dont get the interfaces running at the first place. I have a few apps to which you can specify explicitly which particular interface to use and they are not working in my case definitely because the routing entries are not being set up
[07:16] <Us3r_Unfriendly> Eduard: sudo lshw           and            sudo lspci
[07:17] <Us3r_Unfriendly> Eduard: sudo lshw is my favorite
[07:17] <sacarlson> reenignEesreveR-: sounds like a dhcp setting problem then?  does one at a time work?
[07:17] <Us3r_Unfriendly> Eduard: for finding out info on hardware...there's also           sudo dmidecode
[07:18] <sacarlson> reenignEesreveR-: the default gateway is normaly setup with the dhcp request
[07:18] <reenignEesreveR-> sacarlson, i think i just figured out the problem: I just tried it with networkmanager off and dialing with wvdial: I see two new entries: D:<IP_ADDRESS> G:<IP_ADDRESS> M:<IP_ADDRESS> I:ppp[1/2] ... now they are working!
[07:18] <sacarlson> reenignEesreveR-: cool
[07:18] <Eduard> Us3r_Unfriendly: http://www.pastebin.ca/2027922
[07:18] <shero> guys I need to configure lucid with mac-os dual boot
[07:19] <aldermikov> I cannot create a startup USB drive for debian using Startup Disc Creator
[07:19] <sync3times> shero,  doesnt that require bootcamp?     or can you use virtualbox for the linux
[07:19] <reenignEesreveR-> sacarlson, where to report the bug? :P
[07:19] <aldermikov> I can create one for Ubuntu but not Debian :c
[07:19] <shero> I tried virtualbox but I get a registry error
[07:20] <Us3r_Unfriendly> Eduard: line 97 is what your looking for
[07:21] <cory__> hi does anyone know of a way to do a remote desktop via an iphones 3g network?
[07:22] <nit-wit> aldermikov, you might try unetbootin a updated verson
[07:22] <Eduard> Us3r_Unfriendly: after install how should I modify xorg.conf generated by nvidia-xconfig ?
[07:22] <sacarlson> cory__: is the iphone side the host or the client?
[07:22] <Us3r_Unfriendly> Eduard: i think you might be running the wrong driver
[07:22] <cory__> client
[07:23] <Us3r_Unfriendly> Eduard: if you say your running the nvidia-96
[07:23] <Eduard> Us3r_Unfriendly: yes, I am
[07:23] <THEnoblegas> is this chatroom going to expire in a week?
[07:23] <sacarlson> cory__: then as long as the host side has the router setup to forward trafic to the host from wan then vnc should work,  run vino on the host side
[07:24] <Us3r_Unfriendly> Eduard: sudo apt-get install aptitude
[07:24] <Us3r_Unfriendly> then
[07:24] <cory__> ok thanks
[07:24] <Us3r_Unfriendly> Eduard: sudo aptitude search nvidia
[07:24] <Us3r_Unfriendly> Eduard: aptitude will show you which driver is being used
[07:26] <Eduard> Us3r_Unfriendly: it dumped out a list of all know nvidia-drivers...
[07:26] <cory__> ah i had the wrong ip in im usinf it to type this
[07:26] <Us3r_Unfriendly> Eduard: pastebin the output
[07:27] <nirazio> We have around 300 machines , how to monitor the network using ubuntu machine so that we can find out which node is broadcasting, traffic monitoring etc...
[07:27] <Eduard> Us3r_Unfriendly: http://pastebin.ca/2027927
[07:27] <Us3r_Unfriendly> Eduard: also see if this ones installed:   sudo aptitude show xserver-xorg-video-nv
[07:28] <sync3times> nirazio, can the linux machine be the gateway ?
[07:28] <beginner> merry christmas everybody
[07:28] <nirazio> sync3times: Yes
[07:28] <sacarlson> nirazio: this might be what your looking for cacti
[07:28] <Us3r_Unfriendly> Eduard: the nvidia-96 is NOT installed
[07:28] <sync3times> nirazio, well that would be a good start.
[07:29] <nirazio> sacarlson: what is cacti??
[07:29] <Eduard> Us3r_Unfriendly: the xorg driver is installed, i've installed the nvidia-96 driver from nvidia website, not through apt-get
[07:29] <Us3r_Unfriendly> merry christman beginner
[07:29] <Us3r_Unfriendly> Eduard: try:       sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-video-nv
[07:29] <geekyogi> Merry Xmas
[07:30] <Us3r_Unfriendly> i would from the repos Eduard
[07:30] <Us3r_Unfriendly> that way you get all the packages you need
[07:30] <Us3r_Unfriendly> oops wrong nvidia sorry
[07:30] <sacarlson> nirazio: I didn't find a good link but this at least tells you what it is http://www.debuntu.org/how-to-monitor-your-servers-with-snmp-and-cacti
[07:30] <Eduard> Us3r_Unfriendly: Nax, i've already burned 10.10 to my usb, i'll reinstall the system and then i'll try to install the driver from repo's
[07:31] <Us3r_Unfriendly> Eduard: sudo apt-get install nvidia-96     is the correct one
[07:32] <Us3r_Unfriendly> Eduard: sounds good
[07:35] <Us3r_Unfriendly> it's always kinda exciting to look at someone else's lshw
[07:36] <Us3r_Unfriendly> edward_: are you the same guy here a second ago?
[07:36] <alca7raz> ive just installed 10.10 netbook remix to a friends netbook, but when it boots its extremely slow, like almost frozen slow, unless i have some constant user input. if i dont hold a key during boot grub even times out
[07:37] <Us3r_Unfriendly> alca7raz: did you update the system?
[07:37] <reenignEesreveR-> sacarlson, i just figured out that what im thinking is a bug might actually be a feature
[07:37] <d1g1t4l_nrg> hey does anyone remember the command to install 3rd party drivers for dvd playback?
[07:38] <alca7raz> havent completed one yet, i have to hold a keyboard button fir the whole process and i dont have the fastest connection
[07:38] <sacarlson> reenignEesreveR-: I hate features that break stuf
[07:38] <sacarlson> reenignEesreveR-: but with flexibility adds complications
[07:38] <Us3r_Unfriendly> d1g1t4l_nrg: https://help.ubuntu.com/10.10/musicvideophotos/C/video-dvd.html
[07:39] <alca7raz> i noticed it had the same problem during the install process
[07:40] <Us3r_Unfriendly> alca7raz: which version are you  using for the install?
[07:40] <reenignEesreveR-> sacarlson, is it possible to specficy ain INTERFACE as default routing interface rather than a route as default?
[07:40] <sacarlson> d1g1t4l_nrg: 3rd party?  you sure you don't just mean the restricted package? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats
[07:40] <edward_> Us3r_Unfriendly, hm?
[07:40] <Naitojen> Also interested by reenignEesreveR- 's question
[07:40] <Us3r_Unfriendly> edward_: you the same edward with the nvidia problem?
[07:41] <pr0t0c0n> i know this is a ubuntu channel but i got a quick question about slax
[07:41] <pr0t0c0n> wtf does kwifimanager not pull and ip
[07:41] <d1g1t4l_nrg> Yes it was restricted formats. thanks.
[07:41] <Us3r_Unfriendly> no problem d1g1t4l_nrg ...
[07:41] <pr0t0c0n> i can associate with the AP  but i have to invoke dhcp from the cmd line
[07:41] <d1g1t4l_nrg> after upgrading i was unable to view these again.
[07:41] <UBUxUBU> everytime i look away lucid makes me use my password how annmoying
[07:42] <UBUxUBU> annoying*
[07:42] <Us3r_Unfriendly> d1g1t4l_nrg: i think you need to reboot it for it to work after you do all that
[07:42] <ox3a> No clue for mssql
[07:42] <UBUxUBU> how can i fix it
[07:42] <sacarlson> reenignEesreveR-: I'm not sure what you mean but the default will always be setup as a path through an interface,  you can have more than on default as a backup
[07:42] <reenignEesreveR-> Naitojen, problem is this: I have an ethernet and two pppd's connections. I have applications that can be told to explicitly use a particular interface. Howver when I dial a PPP, connection gets established but if it doesn't have a default route, it won't transmit anything
[07:43] <Us3r_Unfriendly> UBUxUBU: system>administration>login screen
[07:43] <reenignEesreveR-> sacarlson, if i dont have a default route (<IP_ADDRESS>) for a particular route, it won't work even if told explicitly to use it?
[07:43] <Naitojen> oh reenignEesreveR- , it's over my skills
[07:43] <Us3r_Unfriendly> UBUxUBU: oops it's actually in the screen saver portion...system>preferences>screensaver
[07:44] <Us3r_Unfriendly> sorry about that
[07:44] <sacarlson> reenignEesreveR-: no that would mask all so nothing would pass that,  the default is normaly <IP_ADDRESS>
[07:44] <Us3r_Unfriendly> UBUxUBU: disable the lock screen with a password
[07:44] <sacarlson> reenignEesreveR-: I assume you mean the mask
[07:45] <DannyButterman> Hi there
[07:45] <sacarlson> reenignEesreveR-: oh I seem to be wrong since mine is default         router          <IP_ADDRESS>         UG    0      0        0 eth0
[07:45] <mork1> natty is unbelieveable bad ubuntu
[07:46] <sacarlson> reenignEesreveR-: so <IP_ADDRESS> is the pass all
[07:46] <mork1> my X usually crash in the middle
[07:46] <reenignEesreveR-> here's my table: http://dpaste.de/6qpA/
[07:46] <DannyButterman> ubuntu keeps on asking me a password for a so called keyring
[07:46] <DannyButterman> no password is working
[07:46] <reenignEesreveR-> oops
[07:47] <reenignEesreveR-> sacarlson,  here's my table: http://dpaste.de/6qPA/
[07:48] <mork1> reenignEesreveR-: do you use load balancing?
[07:48] <sacarlson> reenignEesreveR-: so I guess the only trafic on ppp0 would be if you connected direct to <IP_ADDRESS>
[07:49] <Seta> Hey! When i have a software requestion a link like: http://aaa.aa/a can i configure my computer to forward those requests to http://bbb.bb/b ?
[07:49] <DannyButterman> Can't someone help me about this damn keyring ? hate this thing
[07:49] <sacarlson> reenignEesreveR-: and same goes for ppp1 only if you connect to <IP_ADDRESS>  will you ever touch that interface
[07:49] <reenignEesreveR-> mork1, no but that isn't required at the first place. I have certainly applications that can be told which interfaces they are supposed to use. However in my case they are failing to send any traffic. My guess is that my routing tables are not being setup correctly
[07:49] <WBC> hi guys, I need help with throttling the speed of a single local IP on my network. The question is a bit long so I pastebinned it http://pastebin.com/qzf90MR5 - any help would be appreciated, thanks.
[07:49] <timClicks> how do I locate my jdk?
[07:50] <reenignEesreveR-> sacarlson, but no other traffic will be routed, right?
[07:50] <ShapeShifter499> what are the alsa options?
[07:50] <OooNeooO> Hellow rummmmmmmmmmm
[07:50] <ShapeShifter499> I need to know so I can tweak and possibly fix my sound issues
[07:51] <OooNeooO> any budy can help me to configure to ubuntu 10.04
[07:51] <sacarlson> reenignEesreveR-: all other internet trafic will be defaulted to your gateway router address <IP_ADDRESS>
[07:52] <reenignEesreveR-> hmmm... how do i fix that? add a default route for ppp0 and ppp1? that'll sorta kill the purpose because the whole system would be able to use them as well
[07:52] <sacarlson> reenignEesreveR-: what do you hope to accomplish?  distributed trafic or just backup on failure?
[07:53] <sacarlson> reenignEesreveR-: or are they just private tunnels to distributed remote networks?
[07:53] <FalleStar> If I restart my laptop after going into standby, I get a blinking underscore when booting up instead of seeing GRUB. Booting into GParted Live and then restarting it again causes GRUB to load normally until I do it again. I'd like a more permanent fix though, any ideas?
[07:54] <reenignEesreveR-> sacarlson, I'm trying to test something like this: http://nms.csail.mit.edu/projects/horde/
[07:54] <ex_> have you tried using your recovery console?
[07:54] <Seta> :(
[07:54] <Seta> Hey! When i have a software that requests links like: http://aaa.aa/a can i configure my server to forward those requests to http://bbb.bb/b ?
[07:55] <FalleStar> ex_: I can't see the recovery console. It's just a black screen when I boot up with a blinking underscore for a cursor in the top-left corner of the screen.
[07:55] <cj123> hey looking for some help. wanted to make python 3.1 as default instead of python 2.6. How could i do that?
[07:55] <DannyButterman> How am I supposed  to manage the keyring in order to get rid of annoying password requests ? And Why on earth no password is working ?
[07:55] <Us3r_Unfriendly> cj123: couldn't you just update it?
[07:56] <cj123> i'm working in ubuntu 9.04 which dosent have python 3.1 in the package so i have compiled it from the source.
[07:56] <botdog> guys how to change my kernel?
[07:57] <sacarlson> reenignEesreveR-: well I'm not sure how that software works or how it is configured.  so I guess if left to the software to choose what path to use to transmit the data your network config could work
[07:57] <Us3r_Unfriendly> DannyButterman: system>preferences>passwords and encryptions keys
[07:58] <sacarlson> you could even setup dhcp so that users were passed different gateways to use all three of your internet paths
[07:58] <timewriter> hi
[07:59] <Us3r_Unfriendly> botdog: do you already have the kernel you want?
[07:59] <botdog> what means rc befor kernel?
[07:59] <Seta> D: Please somebody help...
[07:59] <botdog> rc7
[07:59] <Us3r_Unfriendly> that's your runlevel
[07:59] <Us3r_Unfriendly> i believe
[08:00] <DannyButterman> Us3r_Unfriendly: no such thing. btw it's 9.04 netbook remix. I do have something like that but it's in the accessories section. And the only entry I can see in it is for login authentification.
[08:00] <Us3r_Unfriendly> i know on 1 through 6
[08:01] <botdog> do you know what does git1 mean?
[08:01] <nirazio> I wish for Rhythmbox to close when the "X" is clicked, can I do these things?
[08:01] <Us3r_Unfriendly> DannyButterman: terminal:        seahorse
[08:01] <skraito> any one from asia ?
[08:02] <Us3r_Unfriendly> botdog: reboot and hold the shift key down while after your bios screen
[08:02] <Seta> skraito: my meal ^^
[08:02] <sacarlson> reenignEesreveR-: so what you want is to combine multi isp connections into one wide bandwidth pipe.  there are other software setups to try as I did but I failed.
[08:02] <Us3r_Unfriendly> botdog: you'll get a grub menu with all the kernels you have...select which one you want to boot from
[08:03] <Us3r_Unfriendly> botdog: i know git is a way to copy directorys from a server
[08:03] <Us3r_Unfriendly> basically a file
[08:03] <DannyButterman> Us3r_Unfriendly: yes the thing in accessories is actually "seahorse". The only item in it is 'login' which is about login on the box
[08:03] <alca7raz> botdog: if that doesnt work, you might have to run update-grub before it shows up in the boot list
[08:03] <dadang> booeh tanya tentang driver acer 4738z for ubuntu
[08:03] <dadang> driver audio
[08:05] <java> hello, anyone here?
[08:05] <pr0t0c0n> nno
[08:05] <Us3r_Unfriendly> DannyButterman: right click the passwords:login and click "unlock" if it isn't already and then right click again and change password...enter your password and for the new ones don't type anything and choose "unsafe storage"
[08:05] <java> I cann't connect ad-hoc ubuntu to windows7
[08:06] <sacarlson> reenignEesreveR-: I think this is the iptables solution I tried that seemed to work from my view but didn't seem to work when viewed by a group of users on the same network. http://serverfault.com/questions/93678/load-balancing-nat-ing-multiple-isp-connections-on-linux
[08:06] <reenignEesreveR-> sacarlson, from a programmer's perspective, do you know if it is possible to open a client socket which is bound to a particular host?
[08:06] <cj123> Us3r_Unfriendly :  i'm working in ubuntu 9.04 which dosent have python 3.1 in the package so i have compiled it from the source.
[08:07] <DannyButterman> Us3r_Unfriendly:I right click login, click unlock, then a popup appears asking for the keyring pasword in order to unlock it. I type my login password, and it keeps on asking the same thing
[08:07] <sacarlson> reenignEesreveR-: you would just have to program manipulate the values of iptables I guess
[08:07] <Us3r_Unfriendly> DannyButterman: are you entering the right password?
[08:08] <nirazio> I wish for Rhythmbox to close when the "X" is clicked, can I do these things?
[08:08] <OooNeooO> any buddy use ubuntu server
[08:08] <sacarlson> reenignEesreveR-: I couldn't detect why my users where having problems and I couldn't experiment without making too many people unhappy
[08:08] <DannyButterman> I do not have other password than my login password on this machine. I've checked in a notepad that it's not a "capital" issue, still I can't unlock the keyring
[08:09] <Us3r_Unfriendly> cj123: I know I have it in my repos but i'm on 10.10.  Can you find a ppa of it or try to configure the 3.1 package?
[08:09] <Us3r_Unfriendly> DannyButterman: lets try in a terminal:          sudo passwd
[08:09] <sacarlson> reenignEesreveR-: but for you is is just one client on the side of the multiple isp's?
[08:09] <reenignEesreveR-> sacarlson, yes it is one client i.e. myself
[08:09] <DannyButterman> Us3r_Unfriendly:by the way, I've stumbled upon this problem a lot of times, on 8.04, 8.10, 9.04, 9.10... always the same damn keyring password question
[08:10] <Us3r_Unfriendly> DannyButterman: enter you new root password
[08:10] <Us3r_Unfriendly> DannyButterman: then login to root
[08:10] <sacarlson> reenignEesreveR-: then you should try the iptables method above and see if that works for you
[08:10] <sacarlson> reenignEesreveR-: the other problem is that the destination needs a big pipe to recieve the data
[08:11] <cj123> Us3r_Unfriendly : what's ppa ? and how do i configure the package?
[08:11] <DannyButterman> Us3r_Unfriendly: you mean, enabling the 'root' user on the machine ? I'd prefer avoid this, but if there's no other way...
[08:11] <sacarlson> reenignEesreveR-: if on both sides they use multiple isp's then I guess it would be more complicted
[08:11] <DasEi> LoRez: pm you ?
[08:12] <Us3r_Unfriendly> DannyButterman: then from the root account change your password using:        passwd "yourusername"
[08:12] <Us3r_Unfriendly> DannyButterman: the reason why I say do it this way is some ppl had problems doing what your doing from their account
[08:12] <ryjyd> hello campers, I've got a hardware/driver/software/suggestion box kind of question
[08:13] <ryjyd> specifically to pro sound cards used for recording studios and whatnot
[08:13] <Us3r_Unfriendly> DannyButterman: ...and changing the password from root seems to be some kind of fix.  ?  Then after you do that try all that over again with the right clicking the passwords:login
[08:13] <Us3r_Unfriendly> should work
[08:13] <DasEi> ryjyd: avoid x-fis
[08:14] <Us3r_Unfriendly> DannyButterman: this will be your new password for your machine, not that you didn't know that already
[08:14] <ryjyd> begging your pardon, not sure what you're asking of me
[08:15] <Us3r_Unfriendly> cj123: sudo apt-cache search python         ...are you sure you don't have it in the repos?
[08:15] <DasEi> ryjyd: there are certain profs frm creative, the x-fi series, often caused trouble in the past /w linux
[08:15] <Eduard> Us3r_Unfriendly: I'm back
[08:15] <ryjyd> ohhh... gotcha
[08:15] <Us3r_Unfriendly> Eduard: how'd it go?
[08:16] <DasEi> ryjyd: soundblaster, amongst others serve well, check alsaproject.org
[08:16] <cj123> Us3r_Unfriendly : yeah i'm sure.
[08:16] <DasEi> ryjyd: also there are various databases concernning a certain hardware under linux
[08:16] <DasEi> !hw
[08:16] <DasEi> !hardware
[08:16] <ryjyd> DasEi, most of what I've been running into has been leaning on usb2.0, but I've also read that this is a bad nono, as there's just not enough bus to haul the sound after two tracks, and this is kinda what I'm worried about
[08:16] <Eduard> Us3r_Unfriendly: I've installed the nvidia-96 while in tty on a clean 10.10 system. As for now, everything works except for i cannot launch 'NVIDIA X Serv Settings'
[08:17] <DasEi> ^might not be the youngest, ryjyd
[08:17] <cj123> Us3r_Unfriendly : The thing is if i run python3.1 i'm able to run python3.1 but just python opens python2.6. Wanted to change that.
[08:17] <Eduard> Us3r_Unfriendly: It complains that I'm not using NVIDIA X Driver
[08:18] <DasEi> ryjyd: I'm no expert on that, but can tell I helped with rosegarden using usb, and it was fine (usb2.0)
[08:18] <Us3r_Unfriendly> Eduard: is X working now though?
[08:18] <gobbe> cj123: /usr/bin/python is a symbolic link
[08:18] <DasEi> ryjyd: profs will want to use ocle
[08:18] <DasEi> p*
[08:18] <gobbe> cj123: change that
[08:18] <Eduard> Us3r_Unfriendly: yes it does
[08:18] <n_i_x> cj123: can't you just repoint the symling?
[08:18] <n_i_x> gobbe: beat me to it :)
[08:18] <ryjyd> DasEi,  alsaproject.org leads to a dead-end... looks like whoever the domain was bough from now is leaving ads to wherever on it...
[08:18] <Eduard> Us3r_Unfriendly: the only problem, how to fix the not using nvidia X driver...
[08:18] <Us3r_Unfriendly> Eduard: you might have to install some additional packages
[08:19] <gobbe> n_i_x: :-D
[08:19] <Eduard> Us3r_Unfriendly: which are?
[08:19] <ryjyd> DasEi, rosegarden is for midi-like "stuff" isn't it?
[08:19] <alca7raz> alright, ive installed 10.10 netbook remix and just finished an upgrade/reboot but it still slows way down when there is no user input. any ideas?
[08:19] <DasEi> ryjyd: yes, supporting usb quite well; http://www.alsa-project.org/
[08:20] <cj123> gobbe : If i try to link  /usr/bin/python it says its not a directory.
[08:20] <ryjyd> DasEi, that's the link... thx
[08:20] <cj123> n_i_x : don't know how to do that !
[08:20] <Us3r_Unfriendly> sudo apt-get install nvidia-settings
[08:20] <Us3r_Unfriendly> Eduard:
[08:20] <n_i_x> cj123: sudo ln -s /usr/bin/python3.1 /usr/bin/python
[08:21] <Eduard> Us3r_Unfriendly: Nvidia settings is already installed
[08:22] <Us3r_Unfriendly> Eduard: first of all, how did you know your using nvidia-96?
[08:22] <cj123> n_i_x : this is what i get on doing that 'ln: creating symbolic link `/usr/bin/python': File exists'.
[08:22] <Eduard> Us3r_Unfriendly: My mouse shows up, with nouveau it's some glitched pointer
[08:23] <n_i_x> cj123: do this first: sudo rm -rf /usr/bin/python
[08:23] <Us3r_Unfriendly> Eduard: your mouse?
[08:24] <Us3r_Unfriendly> Eduard: you mean your having issues with your mouse?
[08:24] <cj123> n_i_x : got it. Thank you..!
[08:24] <n_i_x> cj123: np
[08:24] <Eduard> Us3r_Unfriendly: erm the mouse pointer on the desktop... With nouveau it always shows with some glitched graphics, with nvidia everything always works
[08:25] <sacarlson> reenignEesreveR-: I found something better and easier that I never saw when I tried it: http://ubuntulinuxhelp.com/how-to-use-the-second-network-port-on-your-computer/
[08:25] <cosmin> i want to connect my Samsung phone to ubuntu and transfer some files. What program can i use?
[08:25] <n_i_x> cosmin: depends on the phone really
[08:26] <n_i_x> cosmin: if it has an sdcard slot you can just mount it
[08:26] <cosmin> it's a samsung z560
[08:26] <cosmin> i have`n a card reader
[08:26] <cosmin> for my pc
[08:27] <Us3r_Unfriendly> Eduard: sounds like that's the firmware for your card
[08:27] <cosmin> i will connect it to an usb port to see what is happening
[08:28] <n_i_x> cosmin: it probably wont do anything.. that's an old phone and doesn't run an OS that mounts with usb mass storage
[08:28] <cosmin> i see:)
[08:28] <cosmin> nothing's happening
[08:28] <Eduard> Us3r_Unfriendly: who knows... The fact is, the proprietary nvidia drivers fix the pointer graphics problem. Now the only interesting question, is how should i fix nvidia-settings, because I need it
[08:29] <Animagladius> Merry Christmas everyone, btw.
[08:29] <Intro> Merry Christmas
[08:29] <wispurs> hey, Im pretty new to linux, installed ubuntu 10.4 worked perfectly but had to reinstall it due to trying to properly partition it, on the second install things didnt go so smoothly, but it wasnt till i had spent days reseting it all up till i realized that some things werent right, for example, i cant switch desktops, my compiz wont work and sometimes when i restart my little frames where the close/minimize/maximize buttons would be, simply doesnt exist.
[08:29] <wispurs> I figured i would wait for the upgrade and it would fix these problems.. i just tried to complete the upgrade but it had an error with vmware but otherwise seemed to complete...  however all the same problems still exist,  is there anything i can do or is it going to require a completely fresh install?
[08:30] <cosmin> i will use the bluetooth :D
[08:30] <cosmin> :))
[08:30] <cosmin> thanks anyway :D
[08:31] <Intro> Sound strange, i'm new to ubuntu.  but i had a problem where it was acting funny, i re-partitioned the drives after a defrag. and it seemed to fix the problems :\
[08:31] <alca7raz> anyone know why netbook remix 10.10 would slow to a halt without constant user input?
[08:32] <wispurs> if i do have to start over with a fresh install is there a way to not lose my current settings and files without keeping my current problem?
[08:32] <wispurs> (s)
[08:33] <Intro> that i am unsure of.  I'm sure there is a way to save some sort of theme/template file that can be loaded once your back in
[08:34] <bazhang> wispurs, have you tried alt-f2 metacity --replace
[08:34] <Liath> Is this the appropriate place to mention a bug in the UNR installer?
[08:34] <wispurs> no, i havnt do i do alt f2 in update manager?
[08:34] <bazhang> Liath, you can mention it, but better to file it
[08:35] <Liath> Link please?
[08:35] <bazhang> wispurs, no that's the run dialogue; try alt f2 then type metacity --replace
[08:35] <Liath> And the UNR installer insists on writing GRUB to my SD card. I didnt catch it the first time, but on reinstall I noticed it. :<
[08:35] <bazhang> !bug | Liath
[08:36] <wispurs> ok, when i do it everything clears from my desktop then returns to normal
[08:36] <Liath> Nice.
[08:36] <wispurs> but
[08:36] <wispurs> shit
[08:36] <wispurs> wow
[08:36] <bazhang> wispurs, better to work through issues than reinstall
[08:36] <FloodBot4> wispurs: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[08:36] <wispurs> that fixed it
[08:36] <Intro> nice
[08:36] <wispurs> well atleast my other desktop is working
[08:36] <wispurs> thank you so much
[08:36] <Intro> better than my plan lol
[08:36] <wispurs> lol
[08:37] <Liath> I guess the amount of times you get asked where to them warrants a bot command. :P
[08:37] <bazhang> wispurs, please no cursing; in future you might consider having a separate /home partition
[08:37] <zekchan> join
[08:37] <Liath> file* English even.
[08:37] <wispurs> sorry, i didnt even mean to type that
[08:37] <zekchan> q
[08:37] <wispurs> i thought it ansd it came through my fingers
[08:37] <wispurs> thank you very much for helping me with that
[08:38] <wispurs> i wouldnt have thought it would be so easy
[08:38] <punch> .
[08:39] <hanasaki> what is the vpn server software on ubuntu that works with windows/linux/mac clients? and supports LDAP auth?
[08:40] <Intro> have a quick question, curious as to what the effect is called that causes the menu's to look like there "burning away"?  not sure if this is the right spot to just ask any question.  Mostly Curious.
[08:40] <Intro> @hanasaki OpenVPN?
[08:40] <bazhang> Intro, some kind of compiz effect ?
[08:41] <hanasaki> Intro:  I have heard of that... just don't know which ones are more prefered and why.  have you used openvpn
[08:41] <infid> htop is saying that 'cpu 4' is at 100% and it keeps causing my amd64 quadcore machine's fan to go off. how do i find out which processes are running on cpu4 so i can kill or renice?
[08:41] <Intro> bazhang: Not sure, i've seen it in a couple youtube videos.  matrix 3d cube youtube video i think was the one i saw it in.
[08:42] <bazhang> Intro, think it is, you could get the definitive answer in #compiz though
[08:42] <Intro> @hanasaki: not sure, thats just one i know of that deals with all 3.  I honestly havnt used any VPN software on ubuntu yet
[08:42] <thangam_arun> join #debian
[08:42] <Intro> thanks bazhang
[08:43] <hanasaki> Intro:  the pptpd daemon is easy to setup... seems a bit limited in configuraiton though
[08:43] <hanasaki> Intro:  what do you use for vpn?
[08:43] <Intro> I don't currently
[08:43] <dmarkey> Any reports of polkitd sucking up CPU?
[08:45] <hanasaki> Intro:  ah.  the pptpd is nice since any windows box can connect w/o client software
[08:48] <l34k> i'm sorry to bother, but how to i install java with apt-get
[08:48] <l34k> this is getting to be a little frustrating lol
[08:48] <beginner> l34k, maybe apt-get
[08:49] <i_is_broke> l34k, the easiest is to apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[08:49] <bazhang> l34k, enable the partner repo
[08:49] <bazhang> !java | l34k
[08:49] <alca7raz> alright nvm, need to set nohz=off in my grub options
[08:49] <bazhang> !partner | l34k
[08:49] <Tyrnis> plop all
[08:49] <l34k> thanks
[08:53] <doctordoctor> can someone please tell me of its possible to change the resolution of the gdm login screen
[08:56] <hanasaki> what do you all use to admin users in ldap for pam-ldap users/groups?
[08:58] <ray24> openoffice keeps crashing on me
[09:06] <amit> hello
[09:07] <amit> how to hide my ip in xchat
[09:07] <Hans_Henrik> is xchat a irc client?
[09:07] <JackDB> Yes
[09:14] <treeshoe> I am trying to enable checking of free/used memory. I found a pl script, how do I get nagios to use it?
[09:20] <MadRobot> How do I solve the issue of untrusted sources?
[09:20] <ucenik07> lol
[09:21] <ucenik07> hehehe
[09:21] <ucenik07> heloooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
[09:21] <rigved> MadRobot: which ubuntu version do you have?
[09:21] <ScottDD> Do you guys know if UFW would cause issues with ipv6?
[09:21] <hanasaki> anyone ever get pptpd going w/ ldap auth?
[09:21] <MadRobot> rigved, Maverick
[09:21] <ucenik07> no
[09:22] <ScottDD> Everytime I enable it (allow/allow) I lose all ipv6 connectivity.
[09:23] <rigved> MadRobot: and did you upgrade to maverick from some other ubuntu version?
[09:23] <MadRobot> rigved, nope. I made clean install.
[09:24] <rigved> MadRobot: ok. can you pastebin the output? the specific error?
[09:24] <hanasaki> hmm openvpn... its only 2 connections unless you pay for it? did I read that right?
[09:25] <ScottDD> openvpn is not limited...
[09:25] <ylmfos> hello
[09:25] <hanasaki> ScottDD:  what is this then? http://www.openvpn.net/index.php/access-server/pricing.html
[09:25] <MadRobot> rigved, this has been bothering me in the previous version too. I solve it temporarily by selecting another server, but it doesn't take a long time to come back again.
[09:26] <ScottDD> HOld up hanasaki. I use more than 2 connections and don't pay.
[09:26] <rigved> MadRobot: run sudo apt-get update in the terminal. what does that tell you? error?
[09:26] <hanasaki> ScottDD:  so what's the 'pay for have'?  you have a web gui and all with the ubuntu server install?
[09:27] <ScottDD> No, I don't have a webgui. I just do it 'by hand'.
[09:27] <ScottDD> http://openvpn.net/index.php/open-source/overview.html
[09:27] <hanasaki> ScottDD:  thanks.. reading...
[09:28] <hanasaki> ScottDD:  you use just the OS level PAM for IDs?
[09:28] <ScottDD> No, certificates and keys.
[09:29] <MadRobot> rigved, http://paste.pocoo.org/show/309247/
[09:32] <MadRobot> rigved, so what should I  do?
[09:32] <rigved> MadRobot: one moment. researching
[09:32] <MadRobot> rigved, sure
[09:33] <pradyumna> i have changed my resolution using nvidia  control panel then the screen went black
[09:35] <pradyumna> then recoverd but now nvidia contol panel is not working and my resolution is set to 800by600
[09:35] <pradyumna> any ideas how to fix it
[09:35] <rigved> MadRobot: open System > Administration > Software Sources
[09:36] <MadRobot> rigved, for some reason it doesn't appear in my Administration list.
[09:36] <rigved> MadRobot: ok. right click on the System Menu button. edit menus
[09:36] <MadRobot> rigved, I'm in
[09:37] <rigved> MadRobot: select system from the left hand list
[09:37] <MadRobot> rigved, I'm in software sources
[09:37] <PeterNL> Hi, I'm trying to install ubuntu server in a VM from a custom netinstall image, but it fails: http://peter-server.homelinux.net/di1.png and http://peter-server.homelinux.net/di2.png
[09:37] <rigved> MadRobot: then in the right hand list, tick Software Sources
[09:38] <MadRobot> rigved, I did that. :)
[09:38] <pradyumna> how to run nvidia xconfig as root
[09:38] <MadRobot> rigved, what do I do in software sources
[09:38] <rigved> MadRobot: close and then System > Administration > Software Sources
[09:38] <rigved> MadRobot: ok
[09:38] <MadRobot> rigved, ok
[09:39] <rigved> MadRobot: select Download from drop down menu. what do you see? what was your default selection for this?
[09:40] <MadRobot> rigved, sorry. I really g2g now. We'll finish  this later.
[09:40] <pradyumna> how to run nvidia xconfig as root
[09:40] <abe> hello there, I am using ubuntu10.10, it has very limitd support of ibus,(10.04 has a full support) it shows only chinese as the regional language. How to add more languages to ibus in order to type in regional language. I am from india, and want to type in hindi. Please help.
[09:41] <PeterNL> !root | pradyumna
[09:41] <rigved> abe: come over to #ubuntu-in
[09:42] <pradyumna> i have a problem with nvidia xserver settings it says to run nvidia xconfig as root
[09:42] <abe> rigved: ok thanks...
[09:42] <PeterNL> Hi, I'm trying to install ubuntu server in a VM from a custom netinstall image, but it fails: http://peter-server.homelinux.net/di1.png and http://peter-server.homelinux.net/di2.png
[09:46]  * skraito back
[09:46]  * skraito say hi all
[09:46] <duron23> hi]
[09:47] <rigved> PeterNL: ask in #ubuntu-server
[09:47] <PeterNL> ok
[09:48] <botdog>  i'v tried 'sudo make menuconfig", have saved myconfig, and try sudo make myconfig but it answers me: No rule to make target `config2'.  Stop.
[09:49] <BiDDo> Hi All
[09:49] <FLeiXiuS> When I type startx where is the configuration to run gnome-session stored?
[09:49] <synackfin> everytime I reboot, my /var partition isn't mounted and I need to fsck.jfs the partition and manually mount -- anybody know why?
[09:49] <BiDDo> Just wanted to check that I have  done the right thing or if I have missed something
[09:49] <skraito> hi biddo
[09:50] <FLeiXiuS> synackfin, whats your /var partition look like under /etc/fstab
[09:50] <BiDDo> I see this thing called wubi mentioned when installing within windows should I have used this to install into vbox
[09:51] <nirazio> Fresh install 10.10 all my bookmarks mainly ftp and ssh bookmarks open firefox and show a web based file browser instead of spawning a nautilus window. have no idea what caused this never seen this before. This kills me on this machine to not be able to transfer/edit remote files right from my places menu.
[09:52] <synackfin> FLeiXius: /dev/mapper/sfort_var     /var                   jfs    defaults                 0      0
[09:52] <rigved> BiDDo: are you trying to install inside a Windows Guest OS?
[09:52] <synackfin> the root partition mounts fine:  /dev/mapper/sfort-root    /                      ext4   defaults                 0      0
[09:53] <pradyumna> how to change resolution by using terminal
[09:53] <BiDDo> no i am trying to install ubu as a guest within 7
[09:54] <synackfin> FLeiXius: the only difference is that / is ext4 and /var is jfs
[09:54] <synackfin> FLeiXius: but even if I do a graceful reboot, /var isn't properly unmounted and needs fsck'ing again
[09:54] <FLeiXiuS> synackfin, when running fsck does the drive mount properly?  And does fsck report any resolved errors?
[09:54] <synackfin> FLeiXius: yeah, every time fsck has to fix something
[09:54] <rigved> BiDDo: so, your Host OS is Win 7 and you wan to install Ubuntu in a VM?
[09:55] <FLeiXiuS> synackfin, out of curiosity why is your var mounted with jfs ;-)
[09:55] <synackfin> FLeiXius: not sure, I copied it someone else :)
[09:55] <BiDDo> yes
[09:55] <rigved> BiDDo: then Wubi will not work. you need to install from the official Ubuntu CD
[09:55] <FLeiXiuS> synackfin, oh...you manually partitioned this system?
[09:55] <BiDDo> ok thats all i wanted to know thanks
[09:55] <synackfin> FLeiXius:  yeah, it's on LVM
[09:55] <rigved> BiDDo: download the .iso image and use that to boot the VM. all the best!
[09:56] <BiDDo> wI have it installed just wanted to make sure it was correct as I seem to be getting an error of sorts on startup
[09:56] <synackfin> FLeiXius: raid5+lvm
[09:56] <synackfin> FLeiXius: but -every- other partition on the lvm works fine, just /dev/mapper/sfort_var is acting up
[09:56] <FLeiXiuS> synackfin, thats similar to my setup just never seen anyone in modern linux use jfs  ;-)
[09:56] <FLeiXiuS> bah let me rephrase, modern ubuntu
[09:56] <rigved> BiDDo: is there some other error?
[09:57] <botdog> maybe i'v been lost^^ what's the regular config file do i need to confugire and build my kernel?
[09:57] <synackfin> FLeiXius: I can try creating a ext4 partition, but I'm not sure if that'll help
[09:57] <BiDDo> when i start the machine i get a ubdate bios error that causes it to hang
[09:57] <synackfin> FLeiXius: there's something more basic going on, like the fact it isn't unmounting prior to reboot
[09:57] <rigved> BiDDo: which VM software?
[09:57] <FLeiXiuS> synackfin, the drive should umount if its in /etc/mtab after booted
[09:58] <rigved> BiDDo: you need to make sure that your VM software is updated
[09:58] <ik3glq> che skifezza de prg
[09:58] <rigved> BiDDo: i also get the warning but my system works fine
[09:59] <FLeiXiuS> synackfin, you could make the last character of the fstab line to '2'
[09:59] <rigved> BiDDo: ubuntu server in Virtual Box
[09:59] <FLeiXiuS> synackfin, 2 will force a fsck ;-)
[09:59] <BiDDo> i can do a screen for you to show you not sure where to link it too though
[09:59] <BiDDo> ok
[09:59] <synackfin> FLeiXius: ahh, that's useful, let me try that
[09:59] <BiDDo> yeah it works just seems to hang
[09:59] <rigved> BiDDo: tahe the screen shot and put it on imagebin
[09:59] <sacarlson> botdog: you sure you want to compile a kernel?  cp /boot/config-`uname -r` .config
[09:59] <BiDDo> kk
[10:00] <FLeiXiuS> synackfin, are they properly unmounted during init 0 (shutdown) or just a init 6 (reboot)
[10:00] <BiDDo> will do bbr
[10:00] <BiDDo> btw how do i save the print screen as a img rather than in a doc
[10:00] <nirazio> Fresh install 10.10 all my bookmarks mainly ftp and ssh bookmarks open firefox and show a web based file browser instead of spawning a nautilus window. have no idea what caused this never seen this before. This kills me on this machine to not be able to transfer/edit remote files right from my places menu.Can anyone help me???
[10:01] <rigved> BiDDo: after printscreen, open up paint and paste the image to that. save and upload the file
[10:01] <davzie> http://i.imgur.com/S7OzQ.jpg
[10:03] <petar> Hello, can you tell me how to automaticly set up xorg.conf?
[10:03] <BiDDo> davzie: lol
[10:03] <BiDDo> ok will do
[10:03] <BiDDo> thought it would be harder than the obvious solution lol
[10:05] <arunkumar413> hi friends,plz help me to change my boot loader. Presently my bootloader is of mandriva. I want to change it to a separate boot partition and have all OSs boot from that partition.
[10:05] <rigved> Guest22633: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[10:05] <synackfin> FLeiXius: does raid5+lvm properly flush its buffers?
[10:05] <rigved> Guest22633: it's not automatic
[10:05] <synackfin> FLeiXius: I wonder if /var data is being lost because even though /var gets unmounted, the raid5+lvm backend isn't writing to disk
[10:06] <Mouldy> hey guys. I just installed openbox to give it a try - but not all of the fn keys work. They do in gnome, so is there a way to see what config gnome is using and copying it to openbox somehow?
[10:06] <FLeiXiuS> synackfin, your /var partition is spread across 3+ disks using raid?
[10:07] <FLeiXiuS> synackfin, Enlighten me on your disk setup.
[10:09] <rigved> Mouldy: not sure if this will help - http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=434520
[10:09] <Eduard> Guys, what's the best way to stop X server in 10.10 ?
[10:10] <Mouldy> rigved, thanks. I'm not sure if that's what I'm after though. Unlike the thread's OP, I don't have a script for each of the fn keys as far as I'm aware. Gnome 'just worked'
[10:10] <rigved> Mouldy: ~/.gconf/apps/metacity
[10:11] <alex__> ...
[10:11] <rigved> Mouldy: ~/.gconf/apps/compiz
[10:11] <Eduard> hello, anyone? service gdm stop does not work for me...
[10:11] <rigved> Mouldy: that's where everything about key mappings is stored
[10:11] <alex__> .
[10:11] <Mouldy> rigved, thanks. I'll have a look around there to see what's what (:
[10:12] <rigved> Eduard: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[10:12] <Eduard> rigved: stop: Unknown instance:
[10:13] <rigved> Eduard: are you in the GUI terminal right now?
[10:13] <Eduard> rigved: yes
[10:13] <rethus1> i copy some folders (kubuntu) of my hdd to another hdd. Now i installed this "mirror-hdd" on another desktop (xubuntu). i mount the device. If i list the mounted-folder, i got broken chars:  for example file: getopt is shown as getopt? on LS, and as getopt\r if i use "dir"
[10:13] <rethus1> any idea what the problem here
[10:14] <rigved> Eduard: not sure if this will help but hit Ctrl+Alt+F2 the try that command
[10:14] <liTTle-FoX> Wich version is much better 10.04 or 10.10 ??
[10:14] <rigved> Eduard: to get back to the GUI, hit Ctrl+Alt+F7
[10:15] <Mouldy> rigved, the only keybinding stuff I found in those folders was to do with the keybindings I had manually set up previously. There's no mention of the fn keys
[10:15] <line> ao
[10:16] <sacarlson> rigved: I'm not sure why but I need to ctl + alt + f8 to get back to gui
[10:16] <rigved> BiDDo: yes.
[10:16] <line> test
[10:16] <rigved> sacarlson: ok. sorry i dont remember. maybe its f8
[10:16] <share> christmas
[10:16] <share> :x
[10:16] <rigved> or f9
[10:16] <FLeiXiuS> F7 normally.
[10:16] <BiDDo> rigvedhttp://imagebin.org/129412
[10:16] <BiDDo> rigved: http://imagebin.org/129412
[10:16] <BiDDo> sorry
[10:17] <line> we are you from?
[10:17] <nirazio> How can i keep a command started from shell on running if i logout from shell?
[10:17] <sacarlson> rigved: it could be dependent on graphic drivers?  I use nvidia propriatary
[10:17] <share> nirazio: use screen
[10:17] <rigved> BiDDo: yes. same for me too but i can always continue from there. it's only a warning for me.
[10:17] <BiDDo> kk
[10:17] <share> nirazio: like "screen irssi"
[10:17] <rigved> BiDDo: which VM software are you using?
[10:17] <line> 怎么都是英语啊？
[10:17] <BiDDo> is there a way to fix it or is it just an issue with VM
[10:17] <BiDDo> VBox
[10:17] <rigved> BiDDo: VMware?
[10:18] <line> 我都看不懂的
[10:18] <rigved> BiDDo: ok. i get this in Vbox too
[10:18] <rigved> BiDDo: do you have the OSE version?
[10:18] <BiDDo> as long as its nothing to worry about im all good
[10:18] <share> !cn | line
[10:18] <BiDDo> not sure mate just DL it of the main site last night
[10:19] <line> no
[10:19] <share> line: speak english here ;)
[10:19] <nirazio> share: What i asked you is Which methods exist to keep a command that was started from shell on running after logging out from from shell???
[10:19] <rigved> BiDDo: ok. there were two version there. can you check your downloaded file and see. it might be the OSE version
[10:19] <line> I don't know how to say!
[10:19] <BiDDo> 10.10
[10:20] <share> nirazio: using the program screen
[10:20] <BiDDo> try a translator line might make sense to us
[10:20] <nirazio> share: I have never used that program.Is there any tutorial for screen??
[10:20] <rigved> BiDDo: no. i mean the Vbox version. is it OSE (open source edition)
[10:20] <share> !screen
[10:20] <BiDDo> oh ill check
[10:21] <Poshepocket> Haha...
[10:21] <line> ok
[10:21] <Poshepocket> I speak Chinese if that helps?
[10:21] <Poshepocket> What do you want?
[10:21] <share> !cn
[10:21] <Poshepocket> Oh right. that.
[10:22] <line> My English is very 漏中！
[10:22] <apadox> Hello, after I tried to add xrandr mode for open source ati driver for tvout my screen is frozen. all that after reboot. and i cant find xor.cond in /etc/X11/ can you help me to restore X settings to default? i tried dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg but it didnt help
[10:22] <Poshepocket> Just that I can't type english.
[10:22] <Poshepocket> I meant, chinese.
[10:23] <rigved> apadox: /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[10:23] <apadox> rigved: it is not there
[10:23] <apadox> ubuntu 9.10
[10:23] <rigved> apadox: /etc/init/xorg.conf.failsafe
[10:23] <Dr_Willis> apadox:  X auto  configurs for the most part. How did you 'add xrandr mode' ?
[10:23] <rigved> apadox: is that there?
[10:23] <line> ylmf os 3.0
[10:24] <Poshepocket> line 去 /join #ubuntu-cn 或 /join #ubuntu-tw 或 /join #ubuntu-hk
[10:24] <line> ok
[10:24] <apadox> Dr_Willis: xrandr --addmode S-video 800x600
[10:24] <line> thanks!
[10:24] <apadox> than i outputed that via xrandr
[10:24] <rethus1> on xubuntu i havve fujitsu siemens usb mouse with scroll wheel, but wheel didn't work.any idea how get this to work?
[10:24] <BiDDo> rigved: its  4.0.0-69151
[10:25] <rethus1> click wheel works, but not scrolling
[10:25] <apadox> rigved: let me check
[10:25] <Poshepocket> line: 这里所有的人都说英语
[10:25] <apadox> rigved: no it isnt
[10:26] <Dr_Willis> ada2358:  that shouldent of made a perment change. If you restart X, or revoot.  it should be back to normal.
[10:26] <Dr_Willis> oops that was for apadox  :)
[10:28] <apadox> Dr_Willis: thank you i will try again
[10:28] <wyclif> well well, it was that damn avahi daemon
[10:29] <FLeiXiuS> When I type startx where is the configuration to run gnome-session stored?
[10:30] <rigved> BiDDo: no i dont know what the problem is. maybe you can install  the vbox in Software Center
[10:31] <share> line: i told you before about chinese channels :x
[10:31] <rethus1> on xubuntu i havve fujitsu siemens usb mouse with scroll wheel, but wheel didn't work.any idea how get this to work?
[10:31] <BiDDo> kk
[10:31] <teluge> hey anyone wanna gimme a run down on how to install a game from a bin? i heard put it in /home and do a sudo sh from terminal....but then i heard there would be complications with patches later if i did that due to permissions
[10:31] <rigved> rethus1: /join #xubuntu
[10:31] <wyclif> just realised the Tor setup I had in China last year wouldn't work now
[10:31] <BiDDo> not too stressed just dipping my toes in atm
[10:32] <ghostlines> can anyone help me out getting into service mode? I'm using x3max and pressing power then eject quickly but doesn't work
[10:32] <rigved> teluge: do not do that. just run it as ./<game_name>.sh
[10:32] <BiDDo> btw I was reading last night and saw a free ubuntu work book with excersizes in it and info to learn
[10:33] <rigved> teluge: if you use sudo, then when updating also you will need to use sudo
[10:33] <teluge> so open terminal and type ./gamename.bin.sh   ?
[10:34] <rigved> BiDDo: there's a freely available Getting Started with Ubuntu 10.04/10.10 guide. google it
[10:34] <rigved> teluge: cd to the directory where the .bin file is stored.
[10:35] <ghostlines> sorry wrong channel:p
[10:35] <rigved> teluge: ./<game_name>.bin
[10:35] <teluge> kk sounds good ty ^^
[10:35] <rigved> teluge: you are welcome
[10:35] <ares_francois> irc://irc.lightirc.com/flibustier
[10:36] <pj`> teluge, what game ?
[10:37] <nirazio> share: doesnt adding an & at the end of the command work too?
[10:37] <Dr_Willis> teluge:  it totally depends on the game and what it is..
[10:37] <Dr_Willis> teluge:  a 'bin' is often a 'self instaling executable' like a 'setup.exe' would be in windows.
[10:37] <rethus1> somebody familar with xinput here?
[10:37] <rethus1> want to set the following
[10:38] <rethus1> wheel-click on mouse and movement will imitate scrolling
[10:38] <share> nirazio: in a terminal ; then you can close it and the program you launched keeps opened
[10:38] <rethus1> cause xev dont show anything if i scroll the wheel
[10:39] <nirazio> share: Do you want me to add & after commands in screen??
[10:39] <Dr_Willis> nirazio:  if useing & - its often a good habbit to close terminals via the 'exit' command, not hitting the X close button
[10:39] <Dr_Willis> nirazio:  & makes the command run in thebackground. but if the parent shell closes. that can still force the background programs to exit.
[10:39] <BiDDo> rigved: not having agreat deal of luck with the google
[10:40] <rigved> BiDDo: one moment.
[10:40] <teluge> ty for the tip dr willis ^^ it's installing i did rigveds method after setting permissions to execute and the game is Savage 2 pj
[10:41] <BiDDo> rigved: cheers for the help
[10:41] <rigved> BiDDo: :)
[10:42] <BiDDo> nothing to DL back ther
[10:43] <BigBoy_> Hi Guys.  I'm using Ubuntu 10.10.  Everything was working fine until I installed Cairo-Dock.  There is no issues with Cairo-Dock.  But I noticed a few changes to my settings after I've installed it.  One of that is - When ever I double click the title bar of a window, it is "rolled" now.  Previously it used to Maximize when I double cick it.  I've already checked the settings in System -> Preferences -> Windows.  There it is selected to "Ma
[10:43] <BigBoy_> ximize" whilst performing the double click action on a window's title bar.  Any idea how I can get this fixed?
[10:45] <rigved> BiDDo: http://files.ubuntu-manual.org/manuals/getting-started-with-ubuntu/10.04e2/en_US/screen/Getting Started with Ubuntu 10.04 - Second Edition.pdf
[10:46] <rigved> BiDDo: sorry
[10:46] <rigved> BiDDo: ubuntu manual project - http://ubuntu-manual.org/
[10:46] <Dr_Willis> teluge:  if you can install such things as a 'user' and keep thing in your users /home/whatever/ directory. then the user should be avle to use the games 'auto update' features.
[10:47] <BiDDo> thanks
[10:47] <BiDDo> i appreciate it
[10:47] <BiDDo> will print it out at work next week and have a good read
[10:48] <rigved> BiDDo: :)
[10:48] <Dr_Willis> BiDDo:  save trees.. read the pdf file. :)
[10:49] <BiDDo> its ok its recycled
[10:49] <BiDDo> lol
[10:49] <BiDDo> im one of those people that learns better with something tactile
[10:49] <BiDDo> will look over it
[10:51] <ruby_on_tails> hi there
[10:51] <ruby_on_tails> i am using jaunty , and my synaptic has php 5.2.6 and no upgrades available , i need to upgrade to 5.2.10
[10:51] <ruby_on_tails> how do i do that ?
[10:51] <BiDDo> hey hey
[10:52] <Dr_Willis> !jaunty
[10:52] <Dr_Willis> ruby_on_tails:  upgrade to the latest ubuntu release is proberly the best way.  Or use source to just upgrade php. (may not be a good idea)
[10:52] <NineTeen67Comet> Looking for some direction on video setup with triple monitors (2XnVidia (TwinViewed) + 1xRadeon (separate X-session)). When this box boots, he Ubuntu logo shows on the Radeon screen, then flips off and goes to just the two nVidia screens twinview style.
[10:53] <ruby_on_tails> Dr_Willis: i need to upgrade via the source method
[10:53] <ruby_on_tails> can u help me how
[10:53] <Dr_Willis> NineTeen67Comet:  mixxing in ati and nvidia - has been very problematic. Ive only managed to get 3 monitors working with just nvidia chipsets.. and even then that was problemaic.
[10:53] <Dr_Willis> ruby_on_tails:  download the source.. compile/install it.
[10:53] <Dr_Willis> !source
[10:54] <NineTeen67Comet> Dr_Willis: No problem .. the new year is a commin' and I'll be back to my all nVidia setup (Had all 5 working a couple years ago w/all nVidia stuff). Thanks though; I'll go fire up google some more ..
[10:54] <Dr_Willis> ruby_on_tails:  one trick that can make that easisr is the 'build-dep' option of the package manager. It can pull in all needed compile dependencies for packages that exist in the repos. thus making the source easier to compile also
[10:54] <Dr_Willis> ruby_on_tails:   sudo apt-get build-dep  phpXXXX  (no idea what the right name is)  , then find the source, and try to compile it.
[10:55] <Dr_Willis> ruby_on_tails:  that release of ubuntu is past its end of life.. so its a good idea to plan on upgradeing soon.
[10:55] <rigved> ruby_on_tails: but you must remember that jaunty is past its update period. so you cannot update normally anymore. just making sure that you understand that
[10:56] <ruby_on_tails> of course
[10:56] <ruby_on_tails> rigved: r u from india ?
[11:01] <Poshepocket> Merry Christmas!
[11:02] <icesword> yay!!!
[11:02] <ElPasmo> Hi, I've downloaded Natty amd64 daily build: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/natty-desktop-amd64.iso and I've use the startup disk creator to create an usb live. The problem is I'm not able to boot from usb live, it keeps forever doing the load animation with the Ubuntu logo.
[11:02] <nirazio> I like the Puppy Lupu Desktop icons. Are they available as a separate iconset to use in Ubuntu?
[11:02] <icesword> !Christmas
[11:03] <Dr_Willis> nirazio:  ask in #puppylinux perhaps. or check that disrtos homepage to see what icon set its using.
[11:05] <rigved> ElPasmo: firstly /join #ubuntu+1 for natty support (not supported here). secondly, your graphics card may not support the LiveCD installation. so check that also
[11:06] <ElPasmo> oh rigved thanks, how I can check the graphic card?
[11:08] <rigved> ElPasmo: check online for a list of supported graphics cards (don't remember the link though - ask in #ubuntu+1)
[11:08] <ElPasmo> Ok, thanks rigved
[11:08] <rigved> ElPasmo: you are welcome
[11:10] <rigved> ElPasmo: also you need to remember that natty is currently not for production system (only developers and testers). wait the #ubuntu+1 channel is currently slow moving (not many people onlune)
[11:10] <rigved> *online
[11:10] <BiDDo> im going mad trying to find this guide i saw last night
[11:10] <ElPasmo> Yes, I know... thanks a lot :)
[11:11] <rigved> BiDDo: do you wipe your history? otherwise easy to find. also see !ot
[11:12] <BiDDo> !ot
[11:12] <BiDDo> ???
[11:16] <rigved> BiDDo: you were not talking about ubuntu in specific, which is ot :)
[11:16] <BiDDo> oh ok
[11:16] <BiDDo> sorry
[11:17] <TheRufus> hey guys. I have Ubuntu 8 server on a 2 drive RAID1 array and I need to back the whole thing up. I can't lose any data and I need to be able to boot the system back if something goes wrong. I'm migrating all the data to a new server eventually. What's the best way to duplicate a RAID1 array to a single drive and have it bootable?
[11:17] <BiDDo> ill be off to that channel then thanks for the help im sure youl see me around
[11:17] <rigved> BiDDo: cool :)
[11:18] <Tyrnis> re
[11:20] <kncz> ??????????
[11:21] <kncz> 有人么？
[11:21] <Dr_Willis> !cn
[11:23] <DIL> raid 1=1 drive is backup if one drive fails no?
[11:23] <rigved> TheRufus: the difficult way to do it - http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=688872
[11:24] <rigved> TheRufus: easier way to do it - http://maketecheasier.com/backup-ubuntu-with-remastersys/2008/12/22
[11:24] <TheRufus> i know that in raid1, one drive is a backup, but if I just boot off that drive, will it just mark it as a dirty raid and not boot?
[11:27] <rigved> TheRufus: it will mean that your other drive (which has been changed) is unusable until you set it in the raid array again. not sure though
[11:27] <rigved> TheRufus: you can still boot from the backup
[11:27] <rigved> drive
[11:27] <cosmin> how do i increse the volume. on windows xp i had the twice of power that i have now on ubuntu
[11:29] <cosmin> how do i increse the volume. on windows xp i had the twice of power that i have now on ubuntu
[11:29] <rigved> cosmin: in the top right panel, you'll see a sound icon. click on that and then Sound Prefernces
[11:29] <cosmin> :)
[11:29] <cosmin> ok
[11:29] <rigved> cosmin: you can increase volume to 150%
[11:30] <cosmin> in the imput panel
[11:30] <cosmin> ?
[11:30] <cosmin> input
[11:30] <Dr_Willis> you may also want to check the alsa-mixer (in a terminal) could be the system vol, or pcm vol is set low.
[11:30] <Dr_Willis> then some apps have their own mixer/controls
[11:30] <AnthonyCat> I tried to create a usb drive to run ubuntu on my mac, but everything seemed ok, until I rebooted and the usb didn't show up. What could be wrong?
[11:30] <cosmin> what is the terminal comand?
[11:30] <cosmin> to enter in the alsa-mixer
[11:30] <Dr_Willis> AnthonyCat:  created how
[11:30] <rigved> cosmin: and check the applications tab. you can change the volume of specific applications seperately
[11:30] <Dr_Willis> cosmin:  try alsa-mixer :)
[11:30] <SJKregs> If I do an upgrade from inside Ubuntu 9.10 to Ubuntu 10.04 will the Nvidia drivers that I installed in 9.10 be retained? If I try a live CD i have a blank screen!!
[11:30] <frxstrem> I have 100 GB of hard drive space that I want to divide into two (or more) partitions for Ubuntu (primarily the / and /home mount points) - how should I divide these 100 GB?
[11:31] <cosmin> :)
[11:31] <Dr_Willis> SJKregs:  try the nomodeset option on the live cd
[11:31] <AnthonyCat> Dr_Willis: Using these instructions http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop/get-ubuntu/download
[11:31] <cosmin> No command 'alsa-mixer' found, did you mean:  Command 'alsamixer' from package 'alsa-utils' (main) alsa-mixer: command not found cosmin@Cosmin:~$ alsa-utils Usage: /etc/init.d/alsa-utils {start [CARD]|stop [CARD]|restart [CARD]|reset [CARD]} cosmin@Cosmin:~$ ^C cosmin@Cosmin:~$
[11:31] <rigved> cosmin: top panel which has Applications, Places and System. in the roght part of that panel, the sound icon is available
[11:32] <SJKregs> nomodeset will not work
[11:32] <cosmin> yes is avaible
[11:32] <cosmin> i have sound
[11:32] <cosmin> no problem
[11:32] <AnthonyCat> The usb mounts fine when running os x
[11:32] <cosmin> but is not very loud :D
[11:32] <cosmin> as it was on xp
[11:32] <rigved> cosmin: *right
[11:32] <randy2009> Hello, how can i gzip multiple files into a predefined file? so something like this: gzip logs_20101224*.log to logs_20101224.gz without keeping the old logs.
[11:33] <rigved> cosmin: it can only increase to 150%. beyond that you'll loose quality
[11:33] <cosmin> ok
[11:33] <Dr_Willis> randy2009:  i think you tar then - then gzip them. check the tar command options
[11:33] <cosmin> i am not in the input panel of the sound preferences and its set to maximul
[11:33] <cosmin> i think its 150% as you said
[11:34] <njin> hello to all, is konqueror the default browser in kubuntu ?
[11:35] <Dr_Willis> njin:  i think so.
[11:36] <frxstrem> how much hard drive space should I have for Ubuntu (excluding user files in /home)?
[11:36] <rigved> njin: yes
[11:36] <cosmin> http://www.picz.ro/show-image.php?id=3902d5325118fcfb09be8e1e369d7ac3
[11:36] <cosmin> look at this
[11:37] <bazhang> cosmin, one word: alsamixer
[11:37] <cosmin> ok
[11:37] <cosmin> :X
[11:37] <cosmin> tnx
[11:37] <bullgard> Does ALSA write a logfile? I could not find one in /var/log/ .
[11:38] <rigved> frxstrem: min 50 GB recommended 80 GB
[11:38] <rigved> frxstrem: these are subjective
[11:38] <bazhang> rigved, frxstrem no need for 50 GB, not even close
[11:38] <rigved> randy2009: use logrotate to automatically rotate files
[11:39] <rigved> randy2009: it compresses automatically
[11:39] <bookses> Hi, meery christmas to all!
[11:39] <rigved> bazhang: on my system it is 50 GB (excluding /home)
[11:39] <bookses> How can I change the title of the term in my C program?
[11:40] <bazhang> rigved, but thats not a minimum, not even close
[11:40] <cosmin> got it :D
[11:40] <rigved> bazhang: ohh. okk
[11:40] <cosmin> i inceased the volume just a little bit :d
[11:40] <frxstrem> bazhang: well, how much do you think I would need?
[11:40] <bazhang> frxstrem, perhaps 20GB
[11:40] <bazhang> frxstrem, that will be generous
[11:41] <frxstrem> bazhang: okay, that's great :)
[11:41] <randy2009> how to use a single tar command that delete's the files being tarred?:)
[11:41] <ElNota> bazhang: wasn't min 3GB ?
[11:41] <rigved> bazhang: i had a wubi install earlier. the whole thing was 20 GB and everything worked fine (need to rotate logs more frequently though)
[11:41] <bazhang> ElNota, thought it was around 5-ish
[11:41] <Dr_Willis> randy2009:  i think tar has a move option
[11:43] <randy2009> can't find it:(, i'll google
[11:44] <Stava> So i've got a atheros wireless card, and my network manager will show me nearby networks, but it wont connect (wpa2). whats that about?
[11:44] <rigved> randy2009: or you can concatenate the commands (something like use &&) - generate filelist. tar these files and then remove these files.
[11:44] <Jragon> I need some help. I reasantly insalled lampp, i had installed it manulay befor. And i dont know how to stop apache i think its:
[11:44] <Jragon> sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 stopBut i dont know how to stop it from starting up everytime i reboot. I want lampp to start instead:
[11:44] <Jragon> /opt/lampp/lampp start
[11:45] <bazhang> Jragon, install lamp , no need for /opt
[11:45] <JPSman> i am using 10.04 - how can I tell which device (dev/sd*) is mounted to which directory in /media?
[11:45] <bazhang> !lamp > Jragon
[11:45] <Dr_Willis> Jragon:  if its ran by upstart - the script is in /etc/init/  rename/remove it
[11:46] <Dr_Willis> JPSman:  the mount command. shows whats mmunted where.
[11:46] <rigved> is lampp diferent from LAMP?
[11:46] <Jragon> What should i do, use XAMPP or use the manuly installed one?
[11:46] <Jragon> Lampp is XAMPP for linux.
[11:46] <bazhang> Jragon, neither xampp is not supported here
[11:47] <rigved> oh ok. windows environments
[11:47] <bazhang> Jragon, use lamp from the repos
[11:47] <Jragon> I installed them all by hand.
[11:47] <Jragon> So would i just do apt-get install lamp
[11:47] <bazhang> Jragon, read the link given yet?
[11:47] <pr0t0c0n> i smoke rocks joe rogan
[11:48] <bazhang> pr0t0c0n, wrong channel
[11:48] <Stava> Could someone help me with my wireless network card? I can scan for networks but I cant connect (wpa2)
[11:48] <Jragon> That is what my friend did for me. But something went wrong with the error reporting.
[11:48] <pr0t0c0n> i had a similar problem with slax and kwifi manager today
[11:49] <pr0t0c0n> kwifimanager would associate with the AP , but it wouldnt pull an ip for some reason
[11:50] <pr0t0c0n> had to end up running the dhcpcd command to get it to connect to the gateway and asign it an ip
[11:50] <rigved> Stava: make sure that you have wpa_supplicant. and install wicd manager. it s GUI to manage networks
[11:51] <Jragon> ...
[11:51] <Stava> rigved, this is a fresh 10.10 desktop installation
[11:51] <Stava> rigved, So I wont be using the network manager?
[11:52] <pete_> hi
[11:52] <rigved> Stava: both are same. you can use either
[11:52] <kevin__> it's 7 am here what time is it where everybody is at?
[11:52] <pr0t0c0n> what wireless interface are you using
[11:52] <pr0t0c0n> wlan0 ?
[11:52] <Stava> rigved, So I just need wpa_supplicant?
[11:52] <rigved> Stava: yes. to connect to encrypted connections
[11:53] <coz_> rigved,   near 7 am here also
[11:53] <Stava> rigved, I would have thought that was out of the box functionality :o
[11:53] <rigved> @now