[04:39] <duckwars> overclucker: I have the man open in another terminal tab, I'm trying to reference it as much as I can, but I don't understand "C-a" is that supposed to be holding down the control key and then hitting a?
[04:39] <olimones> oh im sorry
[04:39] <overclucker> ctrl-a
[04:39] <komputes> olimones: no problem
[04:39] <olimones>  well if anyone cal help
[04:39] <overclucker> once that combo is pressed, release the keys
[04:39] <olimones>  i have a probleme with the sound with my hp laptop
[04:39] <Tophu> what is the channel for 9.10?
[04:40] <duckwars> thank you overclucker
[04:40] <donnybrasco> Hi, can anyone help me with which version of jaunty I should install (64-bit or 32-bit)?
[04:40] <Tophu> !ubottu 9.109
[04:40] <c751nr> So...cdrbq can burn .toast files?
[04:40] <Tophu> !ubottu 9.10
[04:40] <komputes> Mouse: I think amsn offers webcam controls that other apps do not, try unplugging the webcam and plugging it back in (reboot in necessary) and try configuring the webcam settings in amsn
[04:40] <wade> Depends on your processor Tommy
[04:40] <Tophu> nvm it's ubuntu+1 lol
[04:41] <Mouse> komputes, did that and I can't mess with the settings nothing works all I can do is click "low resolution" and it dosen't do anything
[04:41] <Tophu> thanks all
[04:41] <wade> What processor do yo have?
[04:41] <wade> Sorry I meant Donny
[04:41] <donnybrasco> AMD64
[04:41] <donnybrasco> I have 64-bit version installed
[04:42] <deco> how do i setup ubuntu to use alsa ?
[04:42] <wade> I recommend the 64bit version I should perform better.
[04:42] <komputes> deco: system > preferences > sound
[04:42] <donnybrasco> I have been using 64-bit for awhile now, but when I try to install Skype or Flash, I get an error saying wrong architecture
[04:43] <deco> komputes: oh so easy :P thanks!
[04:43] <Tophu> anyone have success getting the touchscreen on an ho touchsmart tx2 working with 9.04?
[04:43] <duckwars> I'm trying to do the command "C-a C-\" by pressing control+a and then pressing control+\ but nothing happens =(
[04:43] <wade> use nonfree-flash from the repository
[04:43] <wade> and for the skype I will check into that hold on.
[04:44] <donnybrasco> thanks, I'll try that
[04:44] <komputes> donnybrasco: skype i would expect, but flash released 64-bit, what version of ubuntu do you run?
[04:44] <overclucker> yeah, it is a little misleading, just do C-a \
[04:44] <donnybrasco> jaunty 64-bit
[04:44] <Mouse> komputes, did that and I can't mess with the settings nothing works all I can do is click "low resolution" and it dosen't do anything
[04:44] <treble> treble
[04:44] <komputes> Mouse: got you the first time, i'm not sure
[04:45] <wade> do you have the medibuntu repositories added to synaptic
[04:45] <duckwars> overclucker: AHA! Thank you!!!!!!
[04:45] <donnybrasco> let me check
[04:45] <Mouse> komputes, thanks anyways
[04:45] <komputes> Mouse: good luck
[04:46] <donnybrasco> I don't think so
[04:46] <mechtech> vlc won't show shoutcast playlist...what to do?
[04:47] <Khisanth> at least for skype, there is a script on the ubutu forum that will install the necessary libs and stuff
[04:47] <poseidon> anybody know of anything else like this -> http://francois.vogelweith.com/?lang=en
[04:48] <wade> here copy this into the terminal "sudo wget http://www.medibuntu.org/sources.list.d/`lsb_release -cs`.list --output-document=/etc/apt/sources.list.d/medibuntu.list; sudo apt-get -q update; sudo apt-get --yes -q --allow-unauthenticated install medibuntu-keyring; sudo apt-get -q update"
[04:48] <donnybrasco> thanks
[04:49] <wade> then open synaptic and search for skype
[04:49] <overclucker> posiedon: http://gnome-look.org
[04:50] <Tophu> anyone here have touchscreen support working in 9.04?
[04:50] <donnybrasco> looks like it's working - thanks very much!!
[04:50] <wade> Did you install skype yet?
[04:51] <duckwars> is there anyway to start screen without making a new socket? I want to start screen and join an existing socket...
[04:51] <Saruji> hi, install simcity3000 now getting error: relocation error: sc3u: symbol _dl_global_scope, version GLIBC_2.0 not defined in file ld-linux.so.2 with link time reference
[04:52] <overclucker> screen -R
[04:52] <Saruji> what does that mean?
[04:52] <overclucker> should attempt to join with an existing socket, and if none exists, creates its own
[04:53] <duckwars> thanks again overcluck i really I am having the most difficult time with screen... most difficult part of linux so far
[04:53] <kaiser10123> how do i mess with setting to get more resolutions
[04:53] <kaiser10123> im usinf 800x600 now:(
[04:54] <gary_> hello how can i cause the ubuntu desktop to automatically clean up icons?
[04:54] <chris-dowle> what is the key binding for switching between two desktops
[04:54] <pog> *why* LANG=C evolution --component=mail --debug=/home/pogay/evo.log - doesn't work in gnome starter (Lang=C no such directory, LOL)
[04:54] <pog> why (faild to execute child process Lang
[04:54] <Guest31663> hello how can i cause the ubuntu desktop to automatically clean up icons?
[04:55] <wade> kaiser: have you gone through system>preferences>display?
[04:55] <kaiser10123> yes
[04:55] <dayo> duckwars: have a look at this article on screen+irssi http://quadpoint.org/articles/irssi
[04:55] <kaiser10123> wade: i have old video card a savage
[04:55] <duckwars> thank you very much dayo
[04:56] <wade> then you will need to edit xorg.conf that is if the video card support the resolution you want.
[04:56] <kaiser10123> wade: but 800x600 on a 42 inch tv sucks
[04:56] <duckwars> ugh, now one my screens is going crazy.....
[04:56] <overclucker> screen is really one of the most useful features of gnu/linux
[04:56] <pog> *why(2)* LANG=C evolution --component=mail --debug=/home/pogay/evo.log  - doesn't work in Alt-PF2
[04:56] <mechtech> kaiser10123: do yourself a favor and get a new video card
[04:57] <dayo> duckwars: u're welcome
[04:57] <kaiser10123> wade: what resolution u think i should try
[04:57] <mechtech> kaiser10123: take advantage of that LCD flatpanle you have...it'd be sweet
[04:57] <johnny5_> Anyone know why hulu doesn't work on ubuntu I'm pretty sure I have flash installed
[04:58] <duckwars> johnny5_: I dunno, my friend was having trouble with that with yellow dog linux
[04:58] <kaiser10123> mechtech: i want to where can i get a pci not pci express
[04:58] <wade> that depends on your video card. if you will tell me what it is I may be able to find some info for you.
[04:58] <johnny5_> duckwars: Well I guess that doesn't help lol but thanks ;-)
[04:58] <mechtech> kaiser10123: you sure you don't mean agp?
[04:58] <kaiser10123> nope pci
[04:58] <kaiser10123> its old
[04:59] <kaiser10123> i build computers im sure its a pci
[04:59] <donnybrasco> wade: I'm downloading skype now, but it says it's i_386 - will that matter?
[04:59] <mechtech> kaiser10123: no agp slot??  you should seriously think about building anew system...it's a brand new world out there.
[04:59] <overclucker> what flash plugin are you using johny>
[04:59] <jonex> what is the app that work like Autocad
[04:59] <duckwars> johnny5_: Well I just had to respond to the only living robot I've ever known =)
[04:59] <hyperionx11> kaiser10123, i have a ultrasavage in my thinkpad it rocks i can play ezquake
[04:59] <johnny5_> adobe?
[05:00] <syntax_> is gimp better then photoshop?
[05:00] <overclucker> you use firefox?
[05:00] <wade> as long as you get from synaptic I does not matter. the dependancies will be resolved.
[05:00] <duckwars> is mcdonald's beter than burger king?
[05:00] <kaiser10123> mechtech: i know this computer was just some old computer noone wanted and dont wanna shell out money for another one
[05:00] <johnny5_> syntax no and yes... photoshop has more plug ins to make quick cool stuff
[05:00] <overclucker> and gimp has lisp!
[05:00] <johnny5_> but gimp and photoshop both have the same capabilities if your patient
[05:00] <pog> I also like to have a squence in gnome starter-menu - |killall firefox; firefox -p default --restart > /dev/null 2>&1& |
[05:01] <donnybrasco> I don't see skype in synaptic, just skytools - same thing?
[05:01] <pog> why nothing is executed? All commands work on the commandline.
[05:01] <syntax_> jonny so you can do all the blending, etc and text editing ?
[05:01] <johnny5_> duckwars: depends on whether you like flame broiled or fried
[05:01] <kaiser10123> wade: how do i check the specific card i have
[05:01] <donnybrasco> the file I was downloading was off the site
[05:02] <legend2440> hello i am trying to retrieve pictures off digital camera to jaunty with gnome for first time. do i install gtkam or is there some other package i should use?
[05:02] <overclucker> pog: echo "killall firefox; firefox -p default --restart > /dev/null 2>&1&" > badfox.sh
[05:02] <pog> donnybrasco: I guess you have to download the ubuntu-sources from skype
[05:02] <wade> donnybrasco: no not the same click on the magnifing glass in synaptic and search for skype. It is supposed to be in the medibuntu repo.
[05:02] <johnny5_> sorry overclucker I lost you there, yes I'm using firefox
[05:03] <overclucker> in urlbar, type about:plugins
[05:03] <duckwars> is there anyway to force kill all of screen.... one of my sockets is just apecrap and I can't figure out what to do
[05:03] <wade> kaiser10123: hold on while I find out.
[05:03] <donnybrasco> not coming up
[05:03] <overclucker> could try killall screen
[05:04] <qpmm> I'm trying to capture what I hear under Ubuntu 9.04 (akin to DirectSound on Windows) -- what device should I be capturing? /dev/audio and /dev/dsp don't seem to work
[05:04] <mechtech> kaiser10123:  here you go...perfect for you: http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=4226576&CatId=319
[05:04] <lilsnoop> im using 9.04....should i download cups driver for printer or lpr driver----or both?
[05:05] <mechtech> kaiser10123: that ought to make that TV of yours come to life
[05:05] <johnny5_> application/x-shockwave-flash Shockwave Flash swf Yes
[05:05] <mechtech> lilsnoop: I'm using cups with great success
[05:06] <johnny5_> I also have futureSplash whatever that is.
[05:06] <kaiser10123> mechtech: didnt know pci cards over 256mb
[05:06] <overclucker> ok, so you have flash recognized by firefox
[05:07] <SBG001> yep
[05:07] <SBG001> uh huh
[05:07] <johnny5_> And a bunch of others from some sort of totum that says it runs flash videos too
[05:07] <xFlux> uh huh
[05:07]  * johnny5_ kicks hulu
[05:07] <johnny5_> I mean.. umm
[05:07] <overclucker> heh
[05:07] <mechtech> kaiser10123: system>administration>hardware drivers...yeah...that's a great card...PNY is a reputable manufacturer, and geforce8400 with 512BM ought to scream aven with your PCI bottleneck
[05:07]  * johnny5_ runs hulu over
[05:08] <overclucker> have you tried any other flash enabled sites?
[05:08] <johnny5_> My site works
[05:08]  * ouroboros hates flash ... especially on old machines
[05:08] <mechtech> kaiser10123: plus it has HD output for your TV
[05:08] <wade> donnybrasco: this should do it for you "http://packages.medibuntu.org/pool/non-free/s/skype/skype_<IP_ADDRESS>-0medibuntu4_amd64.deb"
[05:08] <johnny5_> I'm guessing it's something to do with the 2 layers they use and the whole overlay they are using... just wish I knew what it was called...
[05:08] <donnybrasco> awesome, thanks alot wade ... let me try that
[05:09] <wade> let me know
[05:09] <johnny5_> I can run it in my windows 98 vmware lol
[05:09] <overclucker> cheater
[05:09] <johnny5_> Yeah I really want it working right
[05:10] <donnybrasco> nope ... "bash: http://packages.medibuntu.org/pool/non-free/s/skype/skype_<IP_ADDRESS>-0medibuntu4_amd64.deb: No such file or directory
[05:10] <donnybrasco> "
[05:10] <qpmm> looking for the correct way to capture audio in 9.04 -- any input welcome
[05:10] <mechtech> kaiser10123: daydreaming now?  LOL
[05:10] <mechtech> qpmm: vlc?
[05:10] <BABER> hi
[05:10] <qpmm> qpmm: yes
[05:11] <qpmm> qpmm: just trying to capture what I hear
[05:11] <johnny5_> mechtech: You play battle tech? We just started a league around here.. heh (old mini game)
[05:11] <kaiser10123> mechtech: no trying to be cheap
[05:11] <BABER> how can upgrade a program example : pidgin ?
[05:11] <mechtech> johnny5: never played before
[05:11] <realleo> nickname
[05:11] <FLJohn> Is there a Channel for building Databases?
[05:11] <kaiser10123> im happy with a 126 or 256mb card
[05:11] <qpmm> mechtech: sorry, I was typing my own name
[05:11] <qpmm> mechtech: yes
[05:11] <mechtech> kaiser10123: $60 and your TV will blow you out the window!
[05:12] <Evelina> Why isn't wakeonlan working if I wait 20 minutes when it works after 5 minutes?
[05:12] <qpmm> mechtech: I'm trying to capture just like DirectSound does on Windows
[05:12] <johnny5_> Well it's a fun game... Get to blow each others mechs up.
[05:12] <overclucker> sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[05:12] <mechtech> kaiser10123: ok...well tiger had a lot of cards, the first one in the list was $20
[05:12] <johnny5_> overclucker is that to me?
[05:13] <kaiser10123> mechtech: but wil be pissed if i spend 60 then months later get new computer i cant use that card for
[05:13] <mechtech> qpmm: brb...gotta put my daughter's mattress back on her bed...it's nighty-night time around here
[05:13] <qpmm> mechtech: alright
[05:13] <johnny5_> lol my daughter is sick not feeling good and layed down with mommy...
[05:14] <mechtech> kaiser10123: I hear you...I couldn't get a new card right now if they were giving them away accross the street...well, matbe then, but otherwise?
[05:14] <madLyfe> installing desktop version right now!
[05:14] <wade> kaiser10123: follow the instructions on this link and you can find out the info.
[05:14] <wade> http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/linux-tell-which-graphics-vga-card-installed/
[05:14] <legend2440> hello i am trying to retrieve pictures off digital camera to jaunty with gnome via usb for first time. do i install gtkam or is there some other package i should use?
[05:14] <BABER> how can update a program?
[05:14] <johnny5_> alright well since I can't get the stupid hulu to work anyone know the apache sudo?
[05:14] <wade> how did you install the program baber
[05:15] <BABER> wade: i want update pidgin
[05:15] <wade> johnny5_:for hulu did you disable adblock plus?
[05:16] <johnny5_> didn't know I had to... is it in firefox preferances?
[05:16] <donnybrasco> wade: didn't work "bash: http://packages.medibuntu.org/pool/non-free/s/skype/skype_<IP_ADDRESS>-0medibuntu4_amd64.deb: No such file or directory"
[05:17] <wade> baber:ubuntu updates keep up with that. If you want the latest greatest you just need to find the deb and install it.
[05:17] <johnny5_> I guess I should say add-ons
[05:17] <madLyfe> does ubuntu use kde?
[05:17] <wade> donnybrasco: did you just click on the link or copy to the terminal.
[05:18] <pog> overclucker: o.k. thanks, I put "badfox" in a script now  and starting this worked. (I's strange anyway that there Alt-F2 and Gnome-Starters have these restrictions...)
[05:18] <donnybrasco> copied to terminal
[05:18] <wade> madLyfe: you would want kubuntu if you want KDE otherwise you get Gnome
[05:19] <wade> donnybrasco: just click the link.
[05:19] <donnybrasco> sorry wade: copied to firefox ... working now
[05:19] <madLyfe> kkk, i think i want gnome.. i dunno its been forever since ive tried linux.. maybe first fedora rls was last time..
[05:19] <johnny5_> Thanks a lot wade ;-)
[05:19] <wade> Gnome is the most stable for now.
[05:19] <johnny5_> Works now! didn't know I had to disable the adblocker.
[05:20] <wade> no prob I use Hulu too.
[05:20] <mechtech> ok...
[05:20] <qpmm> mechtech: still here ;)
[05:20] <maxagaz> how to solve the problem of firefox unable to log in any account (gmail or whatever) or unable to use the searchar ?
[05:21] <johnny5_> wade: I don't even have cable anymore, I have a s-video and sound wire right from my computer now lol
[05:21] <wade> LOL
[05:21] <iluvatar321> hola
[05:21] <iluvatar321> hi
[05:21] <mechtech> qpmm: right here
[05:21] <wade> keep that quite I work for a local cable co as tech support
[05:21] <johnny5_> umm and into my tv if you didn't catch the rest of that ...
[05:22] <iluvatar321> como puedo repara un archivo rar dañado en ubuntu?
[05:22] <ctmjr> !es| iluvatar321
[05:22] <iluvatar321> ok thank
[05:23] <ctmjr> iluvatar321 your welcome
[05:23] <mechtech> qpmm: what were we talking about?
[05:23] <qpmm> mechtech: I'm trying to capture audio (with VLC) as would be done through DirectSound on Windows
[05:24] <mechtech> qpmm: not familiar with directsound...I use MagixMusicStudio7 on win
[05:24] <johnny5_> BTW: I have built a computer and installed ubuntu on it for a standard home with no su and have been helping and monitoring their progress, and I have to tell you they enjoy ubuntu very much so, in case anyone here helped in a smidget of code for it or any of the free apps thanks ;-)
[05:24] <qpmm> mechtech: more or less just need to capture what I hear
[05:24] <madLyfe> how do i get ubuntu to see my wireless ssid so i can connect to it?
[05:24] <mechtech> qpmm: vlc should work quite well
[05:25] <qpmm> mechtech: I'm apparently trying to capture from the wrong device though -- /dev/audio, /dev/snd, and /dev/dsp do not want to work
[05:25] <wade> madLyfe: are you able to see any wireless networks?
[05:25] <madLyfe> nope
[05:25] <novalys> Could someone give me a hand installing a second monitor on this Sony VAIO Laptop? I'm using Ubuntu 9.04, but the laptop completely freezes when I plug the VGA cable of the external monitor..
[05:25] <qe2eqe> madLyfe, iwlist scanning?
[05:26] <wade> You may have to install the driver/module for the wireless card.
[05:26] <wade> What brand do you have
[05:26] <agent_j> i'm using Anjuta but for some reason there isn't a sidebar which has all my variables listed. it's really hard without this shortcut. isn't there meant to be a sidebar, if not, how do i add it?
[05:26] <madLyfe> hmm its prolly an intel onboard
[05:26] <madLyfe> i mean its onboard
[05:26] <mechtech> qpmm: ahh...go to system>preferences>sound...under audio conferencing there should be "sound Capture"
[05:26] <qpmm> mechtech: perhaps my problem is not those devices at all -- is video4linux something that comes stock with ubuntu or vlc?
[05:26] <madLyfe> old hp laptop..
[05:26] <madLyfe> hp pavillion
[05:26] <wade> that should work "out of the box".
[05:26] <mechtech> qpmm: don't know
[05:26] <qpmm> mechtech: checking
[05:27] <mechtech> qpmm: see my post?
[05:27] <qpmm> mechtech: that's exactly what I'm looking for right there -- except I need to do it from command line, so I need one of those device names (e.g. alsa)
[05:28] <jms1989_> I went to http://downforeveryoneorjustme.com/www.twit.tv and they are claiming its up but I am unable to reach it. Can anyone here access twit.tv? If so, do you mind posting your dns server ip so I can access it?
[05:28] <mechtech> qpmm: why command line?
[05:28] <madLyfe> Broadcom 802.11b/g Wireless LAN
[05:28] <novalys> Could someone give me a hand installing a second monitor on this Sony VAIO Laptop? I'm using Ubuntu 9.04, but the laptop completely freezes when I plug the VGA cable of the external monitor..
[05:28] <wade> if you right click on the network icon do you have a checkbox for wireless?
[05:28] <hari_> hi
[05:28] <madLyfe> yep
[05:28] <DougM> hari_ whats good
[05:28] <qpmm> mechtech: when you go to streaming in VLC, you're prompted for a V4L device name
[05:28] <madLyfe> its enabled
[05:28] <ctmjr> qpmm: it comes with ubuntu the drivers anyway for most tv cards the firmware is another story
[05:29] <hari_> had some good wine
[05:29] <wade> then it is installed hmmmmm
[05:29] <Cyber_Akuma> Is there an alternative/better version of flash than the one Firefox installs when you visit a page with flash?
[05:29] <mechtech> qpmm: in vlc, go to media>open capture device...enter it there
[05:29] <wade> have you checked the wireless/Wifi switch on the laptop?
[05:30] <hari_> i had a tough day in linux today
[05:30] <glicks> excuse me what packages do i need to install to get compiz working?
[05:30] <ozatomic> when i'm using cifs to mount a windows share is there any way to check weather the file is still in usage by the actual windows machine?
[05:30] <Alex_K> glicks: Ubuntu comes with compiz, to configure it you need compiz-settings-manager
[05:30] <glicks> ah ok
[05:30] <madLyfe> wade: just noticed its not lighting up when i press it to turn it on..
[05:30] <glicks> thanks Alex_K
[05:31] <Alex_K> glicks: I'm 90% sure that's the right name for it... if it's not tell me... I'm not in ubuntu right this second lol
[05:31] <donnybrasco> wade: Error: Breaks exisiting package 'skype' conflict: skype ( )
[05:31] <wade> madlyfe: that's ok with some that happens
[05:31] <mechtech> glicks: compiz, compizconfig settings manager, and simple compizconfig settings manager
[05:31] <Alex_K> glicks: Yeah, what mechtech said, compizconfig-settings-manager
[05:31] <madLyfe> but its not doing anything no matter what position its in..
[05:31] <wade> madLyfe: have you tried restarting your laptop?
[05:32] <madLyfe> fresh install.. ill try that right now..
[05:32] <madLyfe> first time boot up
[05:32] <donnybrasco> wade: could that error be due to the skytools package being installed?
[05:32] <hari_> tell me some cool apps to install
[05:32] <ctmjr> glicks: and do not forget fusion-icon it will make your life a lot easier
[05:32] <wade> maybe try uninstalling them.
[05:32] <Alex_K> ctmjr: compiz-switch is way better
[05:33] <mechtech> anyone know how I get vlc to show the shoutcast TV listings??
[05:33] <wade> try "sudo apt-get install skype" in the terminal.
[05:34] <mechtech> qpmm: how we doing?
[05:34] <se7en> does everyone in here run ubuntu or different distros that are ubuntu based?
[05:34] <madLyfe> still nothing ware
[05:34] <madLyfe> wade
[05:34] <ctmjr> Alex_K: never tried it might have to now
[05:35] <mechtech> se7en: Ubuntu 9.04 Jaunty Jackalope here
[05:35] <qpmm> mechtech: I'm just working with this VLC log -- I still believe I must be trying to capture audio from the wrong device name
[05:35] <Alex_K> ctmjr: It's not in repositorys anymore =( You'll have to google it
[05:35] <mechtech> qpmm: did you go to media>open capture device?
[05:35] <ctmjr> Alex_K: ok thanks
[05:35] <WholeGrains> se7en: Test Ubuntu 9.10 here, what are you running? Need some help?
[05:36] <qpmm> mechtech: that's precisely where I'm talking about
[05:36] <qpmm> mechtech: "Audio device name"
[05:36] <se7en> i am going to switch to linux for 30 days. I am calling it The 30 Day Challenge.. Going from Windows to Linux. For personal and business...
[05:36] <donnybrasco> wade: skype is working now :)
[05:36] <mechtech> qpmm: you cannot add the name you gleaned from "sound preferences"?
[05:37] <donnybrasco> thanks very much for your help
[05:37] <wade> madlyfe: try following the directions here http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1071920&mode=linear
[05:37] <mechtech> se7en: cool...good luck...we'll be rooting for you
[05:37] <mechtech> se7en: cool...good luck...we'll be rooting for you
[05:37] <Alex_K> se7en: Good luck, but unfortunatly IMO the only real option is dual booting
[05:37] <se7en> I am a windows admin by day...
[05:37] <wade> no prob donny
[05:37] <pog> i like to debug evolution, because I lose messages (may be filters do something wrong).  --debug=/file  doesn't show much output...
[05:37] <se7en> so going to use wine & citrix when i need too...
[05:37] <mechtech> se7en: I'm sorry
[05:38] <Alex_K> lol @ mechtech
[05:38] <se7en> yeah it pays the bills...
[05:38] <qpmm> mechtech: unless I'm crazy, there's no device locations listed under sound preferences -- only titles
[05:39] <ozatomic> is there a way to check if a windows share i have mounted if any of the files are in use?
[05:39] <mechtech> qpmm: seems you need only the NAME of the device, not it's location
[05:39] <mechtech> ozatomic: try to open one
[05:40] <se7en> the distros i am looking at is jaunty and linux mint 7.... This is going on my netbook and work laptop... can't really destroy the workstation yet...
[05:40] <evilGUI> Anyone know why Ubuntu somtimes restarts when selecting it from grub? it says booting from HDD ID HERE then starting up.
[05:40] <pog> se7en: I work with linux now, and apart from minor isssues I'm happy
[05:40] <madLyfe> wade: i dont have the drivers for it..
[05:40] <pog> se7en: I saw linux mint, rather nice
[05:40] <madLyfe> is there a way to see if they are on the internet somewhere?
[05:41] <WholeGrains> se7en: I've seen a lot of threads on ubuntuforums.org pertaining to wireless problems with Jaunty.
[05:41] <mechtech> se7en: used many different distros, and jaunty is one of the best I've seen...couple minor issues for me, but that was all
[05:41] <nanotube> WholeGrains: that's why you try it with a livecd first, to make sure stuff works :)
[05:41] <Alex_K> se7en: From everything I've heard most people have the fewest problems with the LTS version
[05:41] <pog> i work with 8.04 an I'm content
[05:41] <mechtech> se7en: see nanotube's post to wholegrains
[05:41] <WholeGrains> nanotube: Yes, mine is within arms reach.
[05:42] <mechtech> se7en: also, what are your system resources?
[05:42] <nanotube> dang... just installed jaunty in vbox, now got to install 170+ updates....
[05:42] <se7en> yeah jaunty is bare bones and LM7 has everything already included (codecs and such...) i have both on a jump drive..
[05:43] <tbaxter> Can someone point me in the direction of a good guide to upgrading my kernel to 2.6.30 under Jaunty?
[05:43] <se7en> 1 systems is a MSI Wind and the other is a HP 6910
[05:43] <mechtech> se7en: processor? RAM?
[05:43] <se7en> atom 1.6 on the netbook 2g
[05:44] <se7en> hp is 2ghz dual core 2 with 2gb
[05:44] <nanotube> !kernel | tbaxter
[05:44] <mechtech> se7en: virtualbox might work well for you, then...for running win on linux
[05:44] <mechtech> qpmm: how we doing?
[05:45] <Gartral> OK, i have a serious networking issue, how do i make ethernet connect with console commands
[05:45] <nanotube> Gartral: use ifconfig
[05:45] <qpmm> mechtech: still working on it, I'll keep you updated
[05:46] <ozatomic> mechtech: i tried copying it and it was fine but i know the file is still being generated on the other computer
[05:46] <Bob_Dole> SO uh, I'm SSH'd into a box I have setup as a kiosk machine. I want it to run<EMAIL_ADDRESS>have origami installed, but I don't know how to make it just run at startup
[05:46] <mechtech> Gartral: see man interfaces
[05:46] <se7en> yeah... for windows apps that i can't get to work through wine, i have access to my citrix farm. Most of the personal stuff i do at home i am sure i can find a suitable app...
[05:46] <tbaxter> thanks nanotube.
[05:46] <nanotube> tbaxter: np :)
[05:46] <nanotube> is it just me, or does everyone's virtualbox eat cpu whenever the guest os is doing something halfway cpu-intensive?
[05:46] <pog> se7en: if you have "these" virtualisations  processorflags kvm is very nice. A Friend of mine runs 2003-Server on Linux.
[05:47] <ProfOak> What's the terminal command for removing folders? rm and an option perhaps?
[05:47] <mechtech> ozatomic: and you want to be able to view the progress from your linux machine>
[05:47] <mechtech> ?
[05:47] <hyperionx11> Gartral, dhclient eth0 for dhcp really eazy
[05:47] <nanotube> ProfOak: to remove empty dir: "rmdir"
[05:47] <nanotube> ProfOak: to remove non-empty dir, "rm -r"
[05:47] <ProfOak> nanotube: Thanks!
[05:47] <nanotube> ProfOak: np :)
[05:48] <se7en> i have vbox running on my mac at the moment
[05:48] <madLyfe> is there anyway there is like an auto update thing that will find the firmware for things?
[05:48] <madLyfe> whoops
[05:48] <pog> probable you can port the vbox to a linux from mac.
[05:48] <mechtech> se7en: I was running it here, but I just don't have the system resources for it
[05:48] <nanotube> pog: vbox already has a version for linux, no need to port stuff :)
[05:49] <stryker> sss-ghost: yo u there?
[05:49] <joey_> can anybody help me?
[05:49] <ozatomic> mechtech: no, i have a PVR on the windows machine dumping the video/audio to a mpg file. And i want to be able to pool the directory with a script that checks to see if windows has finished writing to the file. And then if it has i want the script to do its stuff
[05:49] <joey_> I'm trying to get an esata thumbdrive working with xubuntu
[05:49] <mechtech> !ask | joey
[05:50] <ozatomic> poll :S
[05:50] <mechtech> ozatomic: over my head...good luck
[05:50] <ozatomic> lol
[05:51] <stryker> [SSS]GhOsT: hey bro
[05:51] <joey_> okay, thanks for hte advice. I have an iocrest esata express card, and an ocz throttle esata thumbdrive. The first time I plugged it in, xubuntu gave some odd message about HAL. Now, lspci detects the card, but I can't figure out how to access the drive when it's plugged in. It works by usb, but with esata I can't find it in blkid or fdisk -l
[05:51] <se7en> I am going to keep a journal about my experience and blog it online somewhere... haven't found a site yet
[05:51] <[SSS]GhOsT> heys
[05:51] <stryker> cool, now i added you to the online list, let me verify
[05:51] <JRSmile> Any one tested xbmc as ubuntu media center? I wonder why it is so unstable on a netbook
[05:51] <nanotube> ozatomic: easiest thing to do is to check if the file hasn't been modified in say, a minute - then you know it's complete. ?
[05:52] <outy> my cube only has two sides, how do i make it have six ?
[05:52] <outy> four
[05:52] <pog> se7en: I can give you access to my wiki:-)
[05:53] <Peddy> how do I make a script run every time the computer resumes from suspend? There are some tutorials on ubuntuforums, but they're all for the older, deprecated acpi way of suspending (not pm).
[05:53] <Peddy> !boot
[05:54] <ozatomic> nanotube: yeah that was the next thing i was going to do, if file has not grown in a min or changed in a min
[05:54] <Peddy> is there still a netsplit?
[05:54] <nanotube> Peddy: scripts that run on resume live in /usr/lib/pm-utils/sleep.d/
[05:54] <pog> i'm really wondering how I can actiate a few more messages in evolution, so I can check, what happens when it filters....
[05:54] <nanotube> Peddy: look at a couple that are in there to see how they figure out if computer is going into sleep, or resuming from it, etc.
[05:54] <mechtech> outy: compizconfig settings manager>general options>desktop size> horizontal virtual size=4, or 6 or whatever
[05:55] <Peddy> thanks nanotube, I was looking in /etc/pm/sleep.d/, which was empty.
[05:55] <se7en> send me the link. I want to check it out.
[05:55] <nanotube> ozatomic: well, other than that - you can have the windows host write a zero-length file named something like "file1.mpg is complete", after it finishes writing the mpg. that way, once the empty file appears, you know it's done.
[05:56] <nanotube> Peddy: np :)
[05:56] <seraf> Hey
[05:56] <joey_> can anyone help me? I have an iocrest esata express card, and an ocz throttle esata thumbdrive. The first time I plugged it in, xubuntu gave some odd message about HAL. Now, lspci detects the card, but I can't figure out how to access the drive when it's plugged in. It works by usb, but with esata I can't find it in blkid or fdisk -l
[05:57] <nanotube> seraf: howdy
[05:57] <seraf> I still have gaim when I go to a yahoo chat room no one can see my text how can i get it to work?
[05:57] <seraf> Hey nanotube
[05:57] <nanotube> seraf: ehrm... gaim? or pidgin?
[05:57] <seraf> gaim
[05:58] <seraf> yeah I am using an old version of ubuntu
[05:58] <ozatomic> nanotube: i'll have to use filesize changed because i jsut tried to use find -mmin and it doesn't update the mondified time if it is still using it becasue it never closes the file
[05:58] <nanotube> seraf: well... maybe it stopped working because it's too old a version...
[05:58] <nanotube> ozatomic: hrm...
[05:58] <ozatomic> i'll jsut have to use bash script to compare sizes after x min
[05:58] <stryker> I have tried to play music in Amarok, they don't play, i tried in aTunes, they don't play, the only thing that plays my music is Rhythmbox, please help!
[05:58] <nanotube> ozatomic: seems like writing the empty file on completion is a "cleaner" solution?
[05:59] <ozatomic> but i wont know when tis complete
[05:59] <mechtech> stryker: I'm all about vlc
[05:59] <ozatomic> its all programed withing the closed source pvr
[05:59] <nanotube> ozatomic: that way, you don't get fooled if the connection dies in the middle of transfer, and filesize stops changing.
[05:59] <ctmjr> outy: compiz-settings-manager general options change the horizontal virtual size to 4 0r how ever many you want
[05:59] <stryker> mechtech: vlc, i have it
[05:59] <nanotube> ozatomic: ah, so you can't change the pvr to write the empty file, ic... in that case... yea, check filesize :)
[05:59] <ozatomic> hehe
[06:00] <mechtech> stryker: remove the others and set your preferred app for music to vlc
[06:00] <ozatomic> and its a locl network so it shouldnot timeout
[06:00] <nanotube> ozatomic: ok ic
[06:00] <nanotube> mechtech: no reason to remove others... can set vlc to default anyway.
[06:00] <fireshroom_> I am having problems getting ATI Drivers working on a laptop x1400, i know i can use ATI Patch for Jaunty, how can i install a open source driver? or update them
[06:00] <stryker> mechtech: can i creat playlists with it?
[06:00] <nanotube> stryker: also check audacious
[06:00] <mechtech> stryker: sure
[06:00] <vimpulse> hi all.  I was using my terminal emulator, and meant to press Ctrl-PgUp, but pressed the adjacent combo on my laptop:  the Ctrl-\ combo.  Because of the way the OS is designed, that combo sent SIGABRT, immediately terminating the program I was using.  Is this not a dangerous key combo, just like Ctrl-Alt-Backspace used to be?  (P.S.  I'm the guy who finally convinced the Xorg developers to disable Ctrl-Alt-Backspace
[06:00] <vimpulse> releases.)
[06:00] <nanotube> stryker: audacious is very winamp-like
[06:01] <stryker> how can i set vlc as default
[06:01] <mechtech> mamotube: the reason I removed the others was they were useless and taking up space in my apps list and hard drive
[06:01] <fireshroom_> Whats the apt get and command to install OPEN Source ATI DRIVER
[06:02] <mechtech> er: nanotube...see above post to mamotube...LOL
[06:02] <losher> vimpulse: apparently you're accident prone and shouldn't be let loose on a computer. Disabling Ctrl-Alt-Backspace by default was a complete nuisance...
[06:02] <seraf> lol
[06:02] <Gartral> OK! dhclient did exactly what i needed!
[06:02] <nanotube> vimpulse: why not disable the dangerous key combo "sudo rm -rf /" while you are at it? or "rm -rf $HOME". disabling key combos is lame.
[06:02] <vimpulse> losher:  i am not the only one who's made that accident.
[06:03] <The^user> GOOD MORNING VIETNAM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[06:03] <nanotube> mechtech: hehe
[06:03] <nanotube> !hi | The^user
[06:03] <pog> losher: in jaunty it's Ctr-Alt Sysreq (or something like this)
[06:04] <madLyfe> Wade: all i did was go to administration and then to hardware drivers and it scanned the computer then brought up the broadcom situation and downloaded something and now it works...
[06:04] <fireshroom_> when i go to system --> Hardware drivers, my video card drivers are not there to activated(using x1400)
[06:04] <stryker> mechtech: how can I make VLC default music player?
[06:04] <nanotube> stryker: right click on file of type you want to make it default for, go to "open with" tab, select it.
[06:04] <mechtech> stryker: go to syatem>preferences>preferred apps
[06:05] <vimpulse> losher:  you are advanced enough to re-enable it.  OTOH, many innocent people who hit Ctrl-Alt-Backspace by accident in past years were not advanced enough to manually disable it.  Instead, re-enable it for yourself, or press Ctrl+Alt+F1 then use kill(1).  :)
[06:05] <ctmjr> fireshroom_: try this for the open source drivers make sure you read the tweaks section https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RadeonDriver
[06:05] <vimpulse> nanotube:  the dangerous command to remove the / directory is disabled by default in the latest GNU rm, unless you pass the --no-preserve-root option.
[06:06] <nanotube> vimpulse: how do you /accidentally/ hit ctl-alt-backspace, anyway? you gotta aim for it.
[06:06] <vimpulse> nanotube:  there are many ways.
[06:06] <mechtech> stryker: I ended up removing all my other media players because they wouldn't stop trying to play my files
[06:06] <stryker> mechtech: ohh, i see
[06:06] <vimpulse> nanotube:  if you Google and can't find any, then I will point you to some.
[06:07] <nanotube> vimpulse: heh
[06:07] <pog> losher: in jaunty it's alt-sysreq-k
[06:07] <WIGGMPk> I need help making a script that will open up a terminal and launch an application (kismet)
[06:07] <stryker> mechtech: yeah, vlc plays them
[06:07] <mechtech> can anyone tell me how to get vlc to populate the playlist for shoutcast?
[06:07] <stryker> mechtech: but i would like to know why amarok or aTunes do not play them, because the main reason is my friend wants an iTunes look a like, and well, VLC does not look like iTunes
[06:07] <mechtech> stryker: by default? just by following my advice?
[06:08] <nanotube> stryker: maybe you don't have the codecs installed?
[06:08] <mechtech> stryker: I wouldn't have a clue...sorry...I couldn't get a few different apps to work, so they went bye-bye\
[06:08] <stryker> mechtech: no, i had to right click and go to open with, it would open with movie player
[06:08] <nanotube> stryker: try looking at the medibuntu repository.... see below:
[06:08] <nanotube> !medibuntu
[06:09] <fireshroom_> when i type $ lspci -nn | grep VGA says command not found
[06:09] <stryker> nanotube: i think i installed the right codecs
[06:09] <mechtech> stryker: that's exactly why I removed mine
[06:09] <stryker> mechtech: jaja okay i see
[06:09] <pog> WIGGMPk: what's the problem?
[06:09] <fireshroom_> nevermind figired that one out
[06:09] <fireshroom_> removed dollar sign dumb me
[06:10] <WIGGMPk> pog: well first, I never really made a script before, and two, I want a "shortcut" persay for the kismet program.. Kismet needs to be run from a terminal.. So I suppose I need a script that opens a terminal and then executes kismet.. I dont know where to start..
[06:10] <WIGGMPk> pog: I have been reading online, and its not really making that much sense ill admit
[06:11] <pog> o.k. you cann place the script anywhere, make it executable by chmod a+x scriptname
[06:12] <nanotube> WIGGMPk: if you open the run dialog (alt-f2) and just type in "kismet", it should start....
[06:12] <WIGGMPk> pog: the contents of the script is what im unsure of..
[06:12] <WIGGMPk> nanotube: negative, I dont use gnome-panel, therefore no run dialogs
[06:13] <nanotube> WIGGMPk: what /do/ you use?
[06:13] <pog> WIGGMPk: when you start a application from gome starter you can select "terminalapplication" an enter the path/script
[06:13] <WIGGMPk> nanotube: besides thats not the solution I want.. which is a clickable shortcut.. AWN
[06:13] <pog> WIGGMPk: I you will have to test the script from a terminal
[06:14] <nanotube> WIGGMPk: in that case, just make the script contain "gnome-terminal -e 'kismet'"
[06:14] <nanotube> WIGGMPk: (or use whatever terminal emulator you prefer)
[06:14] <nanotube> WIGGMPk: that will open the terminal, and execute the command.
[06:14] <pog> what do you use for a system and WM?
[06:14] <WIGGMPk> nanotube: cool... can this be done from alacarte or must it be a script?
[06:15] <nanotube> WIGGMPk: since it's a one-liner, i think you can swing it with alacarte...
[06:15] <WIGGMPk> nanotube: pog: thanks guys/gals for the help
[06:16] <glicks> hey does anyone know how to get subtitles to show on in a movie in vlc, or movie player?
[06:16] <glicks> i have a .sub file
[06:16] <nanotube> WIGGMPk: np :)
[06:17] <outy> im trying to fix a problem with audacious not playing sound,  http://paste.ubuntu.com/234922/
[06:17] <outy> i have some errors when i sudo audacious
[06:18] <WIGGMPk> nanotube: works like a charm
[06:18] <mechtech> I know I keep harping on this, but why not use vlc...it works, and call me crazy, but I'm a big fan of software that works!
[06:19] <leetcharmer> hihi all :D
[06:19] <outy> vlc sucks for 20 thousand mp3s AND as the main player for all avi/movies/etc
[06:19] <glicks> i cant seem to load the subtitles file for this movie
[06:20] <mechtech> outy: works great for me :-}
[06:20] <leetcharmer> how is everyone tonight?
[06:20] <nanotube> !hi | leetcharmer
[06:20] <stryker> everyone, this is very important, my friend just installed a graphics driver and he restarted the computer, now when he turns on the laptop, the screen does not turn on
[06:21] <donnybrasco> can anyone help me with installing a tar.gz?
[06:21] <mechtech> stryker: try hooking up an external monitor so you can at least troubleshoot
[06:22] <bastidrazor> outy, why would you run an audio player with sudo?
[06:22] <stryker> well, he's 5000 miles away and im not sure if he has an extra monitor ><
[06:22] <WIGGMPk> nanotube: sorry to bug you again.. but could you direct me to any good scripting resource sites to read up? I eventually want to try and automate some things for my penetration testing..
[06:22] <stryker> mechtech: could the driver update have done this?
[06:22] <losher> mechtech: you *are* crazy. Software that works, indeed. Start all that nonsense & pretty soon everybody & their uncle will start thinking its the norm....
[06:22] <nanotube> WIGGMPk: google for "advanced bash scripting guide". it's the ultimate scripting reference.
[06:22] <BellinXFelon> my desktop says "The process for the desktop protocol died unexpectedly"
[06:23] <WIGGMPk> nanotube: thanks =)
[06:23] <mechtech> losher: *WHAT?*
[06:23] <nanotube> WIGGMPk: np :)
[06:23] <mechtech> stryker: definitely
[06:23] <nanotube> WIGGMPk: also, generally, "man somecommand" is a good thing to try on anything :)
[06:23] <rufuscure> hi how do i get my tablet pc touch screen to work in ubuntu ?
[06:23] <stryker> mectech: he is dual booting, and not even the initial screen turns on, nothing, it can still do that?
[06:24] <WIGGMPk> nanotube: yea.. i neglect the manpages resource a lot.. =(
[06:24] <stryker> mechtech: i mean, the driver can actually ruin the laptops screen?
[06:24] <nanotube> WIGGMPk:  :)
[06:24] <mechtech> stryker: wow...no, but it could make the video output stop altogether
[06:25] <mechtech> losher: pm me?
[06:27] <stryker> mechtech: jeez, this can't be happening, my friends laptop could just have been ruined and its my fault, omfg
[06:27] <mechtech> stryker: have him try to boot to the live cd
[06:28] <stryker> but when he turns on the laptop nothing comes up on the screen, so i am not even sure it will boot off the CD
[06:28] <nanotube> stryker: screen doesn't turn on as in, not even for the bios?
[06:28] <stryker> nanotube: no
[06:28] <nanotube> stryker: wow, that's pretty serious...
[06:28] <losher> stryker: I suppose the driver could have corrupted the bios, but that's very surprising...
[06:29] <stryker> nanotube: he said it went black during the restart
[06:29] <stryker> and it stayed black, so he shut it off
[06:29] <stryker> losher: hmm
[06:29] <donnybrasco> I am trying to install 64-bit flash, but it's a tar.gz file, which I don't know how to install can anyone help?
[06:29] <nanotube> stryker: if it went black during restart, that was even before the new driver was being used, so doubt that it's due to the new driver. probably just an unrelated hardware failure.
[06:29] <mataks> how to set up remote desktop? i already check the allow other to view my desktop but it says that your dekstop is only reachable over the local network.. no ip address to connect to.
[06:29] <brmj> I just got here and missed part of the explaination, but this sounds like a hardware problem.
[06:29] <stryker> donnybrasco: you should double click the tar.gz and the regular file should be inside
[06:30] <losher> stryker: and quite rare. I wonder if he's had a hardware failure that just happened to coincide with what you did. LCDs do lose their backlights you know...
[06:30] <mechtech> nanotube: pretty huge coincidence
[06:30] <nomad77> stryker: tell him to try fn + for laptop brightness maybe
[06:30] <phurl> reprepro Error: Distribution doooh contains an architecture called 'all'. any ideaS?
[06:30] <donnybrasco> did that - extracted it, but now it's a .so - which I can't use =)
[06:30] <stryker> nomad77: i will
[06:30] <nanotube> mechtech: well... yea, but... if it went black during restart, i really doubt it's the driver.
[06:30] <cyberjorge> hi everyone
[06:30] <nomad77> had prob before
[06:30] <stryker> donnybrasco: you have to make a folder named plugins under the .mozilla in your home folder
[06:31] <stryker> losher: im not sure
[06:31] <stryker> nanotube: isee what you mean
[06:31] <nomad77> laptop ubuntu here but was fine
[06:31] <mechtech> nanotube: ubless the driver was actually firmware
[06:31] <cyberjorge> how do empty a content of a folder then move the whole content of another folder?
[06:31] <artillerytx> anyone know why im getting this http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/m36d41976
[06:31] <cyberjorge> what command to use?
[06:31] <artillerytx> when i run the command when i type " grep -r -i iptables /etc/
[06:31] <nanotube> mechtech: well, he would have said "firmware" then :)
[06:31] <mechtech> nanotube: re-write the eprom withthe wrong code, and *POOF* there goes the magic smoke!
[06:31] <stryker> mechtech: the driver was installed from the System>Administration>Hardware Drivers
[06:31] <losher> stryker: well, restarting does stress the hardware. If he power-cycled it, that's when most electronics dies...
[06:32] <johnny5_> didn't take long for me to be back lol
[06:32] <nanotube> stryker: mechtech: well, in that case, definitely not firmware.
[06:32] <donnybrasco> and just put the libflashplayer.so in that folder?
[06:32] <dumbterm> 1qwdffghfhfgh
[06:32] <mechtech> nanotube: stryker: true that
[06:32] <stryker> donnybrasco: yes, then restart the browser
[06:32] <stryker> mectech: nanotube: i see
[06:32] <brmj> I'm considering buying or building a new desktop and I'm looking for a video card with dual DVI outputs and good support using FOSS drivers. Does anyone have a recommendation?
[06:33] <donnybrasco> awesome - thanks stryker (I feel like a dumbass) =)
[06:33] <cyberjorge> how do I empty a content of a folder then move the whole content of another folder?
[06:33] <mechtech> brmj: nvidia
[06:33] <stryker> donnybrasco: don't worry, we all started one time or another
[06:33] <cyberjorge> or simply copy the whole content of a folder and overwrite all existing files in the target directory
[06:33] <donnybrasco> thanks - been trying to do it on my own for awhile now - haha
[06:34] <stryker> donnybrasco: your welcome!
[06:34] <nomad77>  Cyber_Akuma cp -r is recursive copying
[06:34] <losher> stryker: first thing to try is to power off, wait a minute, then power on again and see if it comes back...
[06:34] <stryker> losher: i asked and he said he did that a couple of times
[06:34] <nomad77> cyberjorge: cp -r
[06:35] <stryker> he's not responding right now, he said he was going to open up the laptop, although i don't know what good it will do
[06:35] <brmj> mechtech: Thanks. I thought nvidia kind of had the exact opposite reputation when it comes to FOSS drivers, though.
[06:35] <mechtech> stryker: unfortunately, he'll probably always blame you because of when it happened (like the time my grama's doorknob came off in my hand), but it really wasn't your fault
[06:35] <johnny5_> I'm trying to set up a remote desktop from my windows box to my ubuntu box. I have made it work so far after I've logged in once, I want it to work on startup. I tried making a symblink to vncserver but apparently I made a broken link, what I am looking for is exact terminal phrasing to get this done.
[06:35] <losher> stryker: black screen (backlight failure) is one of the commonest failure modes for laptops...
[06:35] <FragorSlagen> hello
[06:36] <mechtech> brmj: sorry
[06:36] <stryker> mectech: well, he's like a best friend.. so i'm hoping not :P
[06:36] <nomad77> stryker: i has same black screen tried my bios hotkeys for brightness,no more prob
[06:36] <nomad77> has/had
[06:36] <FragorSlagen> I think ubuntu is trying to make me install a faulty update
[06:36] <stryker> nomad77: i see
[06:36] <nomad77> its a gnome-brightness applet thing iirc
[06:36] <brmj> mechtech: I might be wrong. I haven't built a system for a few years, so things may have changed.
[06:38] <mechtech> brmj: I said Nvidia because so many people use them with great success, and people are always ragging about radeons ( who do not develop linux drivers, by the way)
[06:38] <novalys> Can anyone help me with a dual monitor issue? (My laptop is not detecting my external VGA monitor, Ubuntu 9.04 Intel Graphic Card)
[06:39] <mechtech> brmj: and as far as I'm concerned, those are the only really good chipset manufacturers out there
[06:39] <johnny5_> brmj: my best suggestion would be surf the company sites before purchase
[06:40] <artillerytx> where is the iptables file located
[06:40] <artillerytx> ?
[06:40] <synusoida> type iptables
[06:40] <brmj> johnny5_: Unfortunately, the companies don't talk about how well their products work with FOSS drivers.
[06:40] <losher> brmj: often, newegg reviewers will comment on whether a card works well, and whether it works with ubuntu or not...
[06:41] <hyperionx11> artillerytx, sudo updatedb; locate iptables
[06:41] <brmj> losher: Thanks. I'll have to take a look.
[06:41] <johnny5_> if your patient you could do a write in to a magazine
[06:41] <nomad77> artillerytx: the binary's in  /usr/sbin
[06:41] <johnny5_> make them do the work for you
[06:41] <artillerytx> nomad77: i need to add a port
[06:41] <artillerytx> or a line to open a port for webmin even though i know its not supported
[06:41] <artillerytx> cause i can't access it
[06:41] <artillerytx> randomly that is
[06:42] <nanotube> artillerytx: to list all firewall rules, try "sudo iptables --list"
[06:42] <nanotube> artillerytx: to add stuff... "man iptables" for the syntax
[06:43] <wes1> Hello, I'm having some trouble with my sources file and apt-get/synaptic, I posted everything I know here http://http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1224961
[06:43] <novalys> Can anyone help me with a dual monitor issue? (My laptop is not detecting my external VGA monitor, Ubuntu 9.04 Intel Graphic Card)
[06:43] <johnny5_> losher: that's how I pick mine lol amazon newegg ebay walmart and tigerdirect reviews
[06:43] <artillerytx> nanotube: you know why webmin would work on port 10000 and then randomly stop working
[06:43] <artillerytx> well not randomly we turned off the computer and moved it then turned it back on
[06:43] <MT-> !webmin
[06:44] <johnny5_> anyone help me yet?
[06:44] <MT-> !patience | johnny5_
[06:44] <johnny5_> if you did I missed it heh
[06:44] <nanotube> artillerytx: check to see if it is maybe running on another port now?
[06:44] <losher> johnny5_: agreed. it's a good strategy....
[06:44] <artillerytx> nanotube:not sure how to check that
[06:44] <nanotube> artillerytx: command "sudo netstat -plantu" will show you all ports which have stuff connected to them.
[06:45] <nanotube> artillerytx: look for the webmin process in there
[06:45] <stryker> nanotube: mechtech: losher: he says that the computer stayed black after it had restarted, not while the restart
[06:45] <MT-> !webmin | artillerytx
[06:45] <artillerytx> oh silly
[06:45] <MT-> artillerytx: there's a reason it breaks ;)
[06:45] <stryker> nanotube: mechtech: losher: and now the monitor does not turn on at all
[06:45] <losher> johnny5_: what symlink did you make?
[06:45] <MT-> !ebox
[06:45] <artillerytx> ebox sucks
[06:45] <t3hp00ky> anyone know why flash doesn't work in 9.04
[06:46] <overclucker> hey ubottu, can you respond to simple quesions yet?
[06:46] <nanotube> stryker: mechtech: losher: still, if it never even came up after the reboot, not ever to show the bios - that means it happened before the driver started to be used (which only happens once Xorg starts loading)
[06:46] <MT-> artillerytx: then make it better - webmin WILL break unless you modify the source so it works w/ the configs
[06:46] <johnny5_> losher: hold on I'll get the exact line I typed heh
[06:46] <overclucker> aww
[06:46] <artillerytx> MT-: Well i wish i could but nothing works as well as webmin
[06:46] <artillerytx> MT-: ebox isn't even for web servers
[06:47] <stryker> nanotube: stryker: losher: okay, so it could be the monitor just died? he also says the HD is not responding
[06:47] <MT-> artillerytx: nor is webmin - they're both for servers
[06:47] <artillerytx> MT-: webmin - web management
[06:47] <Cyber_Akuma> Woudl newegg be the best place to get a cheap 7200rpm 2.5 inch 500GB drive?
[06:47] <artillerytx> or lets say web - administration
[06:47] <losher> stryker: I don't understand. How can he tell his HD isn't responding if his monitor doesn't work?
[06:47] <johnny5_> sudo ln -s /etc/init.d/vncserver S99vncserver
[06:48] <overclucker> what does ubuntu-server come packaged with? i'm sure they have some sort of http interfaced package and config system
[06:48] <stryker> losher: idk
[06:48] <Milos> Question -- I can't use only quotatools, I have to have quota installed and then I use quotatools just to modify settings? Or is quotatools the whole set?
[06:48] <t3hp00ky> whats the shutdown command for a network interface
[06:48] <MT-> artillerytx: or - administration from a web interface - they both do the same thing
[06:48] <vimpulse> repeat:  I was using my terminal emulator, and meant to press Ctrl-PgUp, but pressed the adjacent combo on my laptop:  the Ctrl-\ combo.  Because of the way the OS is designed, that combo sent SIGABRT, immediately terminating the program I was using without saving my game.  Do you agree that this is a dangerous key combo?  Or disagree?
[06:48] <MT-> artillerytx: anyway - not worth arguing over facts
[06:48] <nanotube> Cyber_Akuma: it's probably ok. check some other places and see if you find it cheaper. maybe amazon, buy.com, pricewatch.com?
[06:49] <overclucker> sudo ifconfig device up/down
[06:49] <Cyber_Akuma> ok, ill look around
[06:49] <nanotube> t3hp00ky: ifdown
[06:49] <milo__> please can u tell me how to fix this: /var/lib/apt/lists/lock: Permission denied
[06:49] <Cyber_Akuma> planning to replace the 5400rpm 500gb drive I have
[06:49] <johnny5_> Cyber_Akuma: I use newegg or tigerdirect if it's a lot of stuff I use tigerdirect because they charge same shipping for everything else I use newegg but I do a bit of price judging as well.
[06:49] <losher> johnny5_: looks ok. But you have to be in the right directory when you issue it (/etc/rc2.d). Can you see the link when you ls -l ?
[06:49] <glicks> hey whats a good filesystem type for portable harddrive?
[06:49] <t3hp00ky> so ifconfig "device" down
[06:49] <Cyber_Akuma> glicks: depends, what will it be used on?
[06:50] <MT-> tannerS: yup
[06:50] <johnny5_> I think I was in rc3.d
[06:50] <glicks> Cyber_Akuma, linux, windows?
[06:50] <Cyber_Akuma> If you are going to be using it on anything that isn't a computer, you are pretty much stuck with FAT32
[06:50] <nanotube> t3hp00ky: "man ifdown" for details
[06:50] <overclucker> yup
[06:50] <tannerS> guys how can i check if im running 32 bit or 64 bit
[06:50] <johnny5_> mayhap that my problem
[06:50] <tannerS> MT hi'
[06:50] <nanotube> tannerS: "uname -a"
[06:50] <MT-> tannerS: sorry
[06:50] <qpmm> I'm still struggling to capture loopback audio under 8.04 with VLC. If anyone has experience with Ubuntu's audio stack, please give me a holler
[06:50] <Cyber_Akuma> likea console or whatever
[06:50] <overclucker> although ifdown might be an easier solution
[06:50] <brmj> Just so everyone knows, I think I found the ideal card for what I described earlier.
[06:50] <Cyber_Akuma> Windows and Linux? NTFS
[06:50] <t3hp00ky> Do both use NTFS?
[06:51] <tannerS> nanotube thank u
[06:51] <Cyber_Akuma> most modern linux distros can read/write ntfs
[06:51] <losher> johnny5_: runlevel 2 is the default for Ubuntu...
[06:51] <nanotube> tannerS: np :)
[06:51] <Cyber_Akuma> ubuntu included
[06:51] <Cyber_Akuma> at least recent versions of ubuntu
[06:51] <phurl> reprepro Error, were can i get hepl
[06:51] <Cyber_Akuma> But Windows can only do FAT. FAT32, and NTFS
[06:51] <t3hp00ky> So what file system does Ubuntu use?
[06:51] <losher> stryker: maybe you need to get him some local help. He sounds confused...
[06:51] <Cyber_Akuma> so you are kinda stuck with those choices
[06:51] <Cyber_Akuma> and NTFS is far netter
[06:51] <glicks> ntfs?
[06:51] <Cyber_Akuma> Ubuntu supports many
[06:51] <nanotube> t3hp00ky: by default, ext3
[06:51] <johnny5_> I don't know ubuntu that well yet, was actually using fedora before this
[06:52] <glicks> so i should keep the ntfs file system on it?
[06:52] <Cyber_Akuma> but ext3 is teh most common one
[06:52] <johnny5_> I'm actually really setting up my box so I can access it anywhere heh
[06:52] <Cyber_Akuma> Windows can't read EXT* on it's own though
[06:52] <Cyber_Akuma> yeah
[06:52] <losher> johnny5_: you're almost there. cd /etc/rc2.d;  sudo ln -s /etc/init.d/vncserver S99vncserver
[06:52] <glicks> does ntfs  suffer from fragmentation like fat?
[06:52] <Cyber_Akuma> yes
[06:52] <t3hp00ky> What does ext3 stand for?
[06:53] <Cyber_Akuma> at least it dosen't have the filesize limts like fat32 though
[06:53] <stryker> losher: nanotube: mechtech: he's telling me that nothing happens when he turns it on, nothing at all
[06:53] <Cyber_Akuma> you cant have a single file over 4gigs on fat32
[06:53] <glicks> is there a defrag tool avail for linux?
[06:53] <overclucker> haha
[06:53] <johnny5_> thanks losher
[06:53] <mechtech> stryker: the whole computer: make sure batt is seated correctly etc...
[06:53] <nanotube> t3hp00ky: probably something like "extended filesystem v3)
[06:53] <nomad77> stryker:  try the fn+f8 if its an hplaptop
[06:53] <overclucker> noatime
[06:54] <losher> stryker: and check the power supply etc...
[06:54] <stryker> its an acer
[06:54] <t3hp00ky> Can windows read ext3?
[06:54] <nomad77> ohh hmm
[06:54] <stryker> the lights of the laptop turns on, but nothing happens
[06:54] <vimpulse> glicks:  A tip:  If you use ntfs, make sure you use NTFS-3G, you should use Linux kernel's built-in ntfs driver, to read and write the NTFS partition.
[06:54] <nomad77> t3hp00ky: no
[06:54] <stryker> by lights i mean the power light and the ones next to it
[06:54] <glicks> vimpulse, im just pluggin in the drive
[06:54] <glicks> lol
[06:54] <overclucker> you can setup fstab to handle data placement more gracefully
[06:54] <mechtech> stryker: he needs a service provider...sorry
[06:54] <nanotube> losher: johnny5_: i think it's more advisable to use the "update-rc.d" script, instead of manually creating symlinks in /etc/rcX.d
[06:54] <t3hp00ky> nomad77: but linux can read NTFS and VTFS?
[06:55] <Cyber_Akuma> no, windows cannot read or write any filesystem other than FAT or NTFS
[06:55] <MT-> t3hp00ky: I'm pretty sure ext just stands for extended
[06:55] <stryker> :(
[06:55] <nomad77> yuh if its setup properly
[06:55] <Cyber_Akuma> Most linnus distros CAN now read and write NTFS
[06:55] <qpmm> ext2 and ext3 can be read by Windows with a special plugin
[06:55] <Cyber_Akuma> all of them can read/write FAT
[06:55] <wes1> So I'm getting a "Failed to check for installed and available applications" error in add/remove programs, I tried all of the recommended stuff from threads on the forums to no avail. Synaptic is also giving me an error, threads on the forums suggest it's because of another instance of apt-get or synaptic running in the background, but I'm sure there isn't. Anyone have any ideas?
[06:55] <Cyber_Akuma> qpmm: Risky
[06:55] <glicks> windows cant read reiser?
[06:55] <johnny5_> nanotube: Will that help me make a list of programs?
[06:55] <Cyber_Akuma> o
[06:55] <mechtech> stryker: has he tried connecting an external monitor yet: even monochrome, just for troubleshooting?
[06:55] <Cyber_Akuma> no
[06:56] <glicks> not even with an addon?
[06:56] <Cyber_Akuma> What part of "only FAT and NTFS" did you not understand?
[06:56] <Cyber_Akuma> Well, with addons maybe
[06:56] <nanotube> johnny5_: what kind of list do you want to make?
[06:56] <Cyber_Akuma> but its not safe
[06:56] <MT-> glicks: no - and since ext4, I stopped using rfs
[06:56] <overclucker> sure it can, windows just can't make any sense of it
[06:56] <stryker> mechtech: he doesn't have an external monitor
[06:56] <mechtech> stryker: crap!
[06:56] <Aero231> please help, my apt-get doesn't work
[06:57] <Aero231> is there anyone here that can help?
[06:57] <t3hp00ky> This is very interesting. So Linux can read the file systems but Windows cannot, how does this effect a business if they wanted to go opensource?
[06:57] <losher> nanotube: johnny5_: either way. Also, see sysv-rc-conf
[06:57] <overclucker> aero231, doesn't work how? type the full command you used
[06:57] <johnny5_> nanotube: this is eventually going to be a server I can remote into, probably be running mysql a java side server program for an MMO, apache and php
[06:57] <stryker> mechtech: but if it were just the monitor, the dual-boot settings should send him to windows automatically, thus the corny windows music should sound, but it does not,
[06:58] <bastidrazor> losher, i don't think nfs mounts will work on different subnets . so far for me it isn't
[06:58] <losher> t3hp00ky: it's one of the smaller problems businesses face if they want to go open source
[06:58] <mechtech> t3hp00ky: that's exactly WHY MS makes their stuff like that...for them, the more proprietary the better...that's why they're so entrenched in the business world
[06:58] <nanotube> t3hp00ky: essentially, not at all - there's rarely a reason to try to read a linux drive from windows
[06:58] <vimpulse> losher:  :)
[06:58] <losher> bastid_raZor: can you do rpcinfo -p <server> from the client?
[06:58] <johnny5_> in addition it's going to be a "blackbox" between the internet and my home network.
[06:58] <Cyber_Akuma> "how does this effect a business if they wanted to go opensource?"
[06:59] <Cyber_Akuma> Windows will NOT go opensource
[06:59] <mechtech> stryker: I don't think so...he's sitting there waiting to choose to boot to win or linux
[06:59] <losher> vimpulse: I hope that comment has redeemed my earlier one about ctrl-alt-delete in your eyes
[06:59] <johnny5_> eh blackbox is really pushing it more like a funnel lol
[06:59] <Cyber_Akuma> thats like asking what woudl happen if Nintendo put a Mario game on the 360
[06:59] <t3hp00ky> losher: so most businesses that use linux servers still have to use Windows based domain controllers?
[06:59] <stryker> no, in 10 seconds it will choose windows automatically
[06:59] <MT-> !offtopic
[06:59] <Aero231> $ sudo apt-get install mysql-server-5.0
[06:59] <Aero231> Reading package lists... Done
[06:59] <Aero231> Building dependency tree
[06:59] <Aero231> Reading state information... Done
[06:59] <Aero231> Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have
[06:59] <Aero231> requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable
[06:59] <FloodBot1> Aero231: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:59] <bastidrazor> losher, hmm i may need to forward some ports.
[06:59] <stryker> cuz he installed via wubi
[06:59] <amel> hey
[07:00] <vimpulse> losher:  don't worry.  I still disagree with your comment about it being a nuisance, but I am used to such comments and am not offended.  :)
[07:00] <Aero231> hello, here is the problem I have: http://paste.ubuntu.com/234949/
[07:00] <losher> bastid_raZor: can you ping from client to server. How do those packets get forwarded?
[07:00] <t3hp00ky> So does linux support domain control?
[07:00] <losher> vimpulse: good, we can agree to disagree...
[07:00] <t3hp00ky> Like windows?
[07:00] <mechtech> stryker: oh...go online and start getting the documentation for his machine...help him out
[07:01] <vimpulse> t3hp00ky:  did you mean "Does Linux support NIS and locking down local machines"?  Then yes.
[07:01] <glicks> has anyone used the windows ext2 tool for windows?
[07:01] <mike_bruns_com> Hi all, quick support question.  I somehow broke my keyboard & mouse with Gnome.  I waas disabling services.  I reenabled everything I disabled thru sysvconfig, but It's still not working.  Does anyone have a suggestion on where I should look next?
[07:01] <glicks> if it works should i just use ext3 on my portable drive?
[07:01] <Bob_Dole> glicks, I did a long time ago. I havn't used windows much in a long time, though.
[07:01] <vimpulse> glicks:  I've used explore2fs.  It's annoying to use, but it works.
[07:01] <mechtech> t3hp00ky: the internet originated on UNIX, Linux is open-source Unix-like OS...the domains ARE linux
[07:02] <losher> t3hp00ky: the ones I've seen export nfs to the linux boxes and samba to the windows ones, and do something frightful to keep the user stuff synchronized...
[07:02] <glicks> damnit i guess ill just use crappy ntfs
[07:02] <bastidrazor> losher, i get output from that command, but the route is a bit tedious .. host >router>router>wifi>client
[07:02] <johnny5_> t3hp00ky: try SAMBA I think it has something to do with windows domain controller
[07:02] <t3hp00ky> vimpulse: sorry I'm new to all this. So linux has a policy editor like windows does?
[07:02] <bastidrazor> losher, wifi == wifi router
[07:02] <Aero231>  can someone give me a hand in apt-get, this is what I get: http://paste.ubuntu.com/234951/
[07:03] <Aero231> apt-get literally doesn't work, cannot find any packages
[07:03] <MannyinHelp> Hi
[07:03] <Techie> glicks, there is a software that allows you to load ext formatted drives as regular drives
[07:03] <t3hp00ky> um
[07:03] <wes1> I really need some help getting add/remove and synaptic to work http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1224961
[07:03] <t3hp00ky> sudo apt-get?
[07:03] <losher> bastid_raZor: well, nfs runs over udp (and optionally tcp). So those packets have to able to get through somehow. And any retransmissions will crucify performance...
[07:03] <MannyinHelp> Anyone couuld help me setuuing up a local network
[07:03] <MannyinHelp> ???
[07:03] <johnny5_> t3hp00ky: http://www.steve-lacey.com/blogarchives/2006/11/linux_as_a_wind.shtml
[07:03] <Techie> glicks, http://www.fs-driver.org/
[07:03] <stryker> mectech: losher: nanotube: hes gonna call it a night, thanks for your help guys
[07:04] <Aero231> can someone give me a hand in mysql, this is what I am getting: http://paste.ubuntu.com/234951/
[07:04] <Nick_Meister> hello guys i am getting the following error, E: Unable to fetch some archives, maybe run apt-get update or try with --fix-missing?
[07:04] <Nick_Meister>  but even when i run the suggested command i get similar errors
[07:04] <artillerytx> MT-: is ISPconfig supported here?
[07:04] <losher> stryker: he's probably really stressed right now. Try again tomorrow...
[07:04] <Aero231> can someone give me a hand with apt-get install mysql-server, this is what I get: http://paste.ubuntu.com/234951/  (It doesn't install any packages)
[07:04] <mechtech> Aero231: Since you only requested a single operation it is extremely likely that
[07:04] <mechtech> the package is simply not installable and a bug report against
[07:04] <mechtech> that package should be filed.
[07:04] <MT-> !ispconfig
[07:04] <stryker> losher: yeah, he is, he's gonna leave it like that for tomorrow and just give it another try
[07:05] <MannyinHelp> NEED help setting up my local network any help plz ??
[07:05] <Aero231> mechtech: what do you mean?
[07:05] <losher> stryker: been there...
[07:05] <stryker> losher: yeah...
[07:05] <overclucker> aero, you should check your sources list, have you modified it at all?
[07:05] <QPrime> Aero231: likely a sources issue.  pastebin your sources file.
[07:05] <mechtech> Aero231: that's lines 41 to 43 of your pasted output...it's telling you that the package you're trying to get is broken, not apt-get
[07:06] <MT-> artillerytx: you can ask - but the likelyhood of support is low considering its volume
[07:06] <mechtech> overclucker and qprime are right
[07:06] <stryker> well guys, gonna call it a night
[07:06] <overclucker> pastebin cat /etc/apt/sources.list
[07:06] <artillerytx> MT-: i just wish webmin would write config files correctly so i could use it
[07:06] <stryker> thanks
[07:06] <losher> Aero231: why are you truying to install version 5.0. I'm guessing that's not the version in the repository. Hence the error
[07:07] <Aero231> Here are my sources.xml.  I haven't modified it, the commented stuff is me trying to fix it, I put it back to where it was
[07:07] <Aero231> http://paste.ubuntu.com/234952/
[07:07] <mechtech> Aero231: you also need to resolve the dependancies errors before continuing with the install
[07:07] <Aero231> losher: mysql is in the repository, it always has been
[07:07] <MT-> artillerytx: that's exactly why it's not supported in here - it's designed for rhel based distros
[07:07] <johnny5_> Aero231 I'd clean that up and do just a: sudo apt-get install mysql-server
[07:08] <overclucker> i succesfully installed mysql-server-5.0 through apt just yesterday
[07:08] <Aero231> mechtech: mysql is in the repository, I have installed it at least 20 times before, ever since edgy was released, but this install, something is wrong, probably because it's amd64??
[07:08] <Aero231> johnny5_: it gives same output
[07:08] <losher> Aero231: agreed. But which version is in the repository?
[07:08] <overclucker> if anything, it is tryinging to pull it from a broken, buggy repository
[07:08] <johnny5_> I did it about 10 minutes ago
[07:08] <QPrime> Aero231: you are using the security repos only.  your other repos are disabled.
[07:08] <MT-> !shell
[07:09] <Aero231> losher: mysql-server-5.0 is in the repo
[07:09] <MT-> that's not what the shell is...
[07:09] <Aero231> QPrime, how do I find out which repo a package is in?  If I found it in packages.ubuntu?
[07:09] <losher> Aero231: ok, then fix your sources file...
[07:09] <overclucker> should be in main
[07:09] <QPrime> Aero231: it should be in main.
[07:10] <Aero231> QPrime: How do you know which repository to add? is there a list somewhere that I can paste into sources.xml?
[07:10] <johnny5_> losher: he's right that's what I got... It looks like something to do with that dependancy that won't install...
[07:10] <QPrime> check your settings in "System->Settings-Software Sources"
[07:10] <Aero231> it's ubuntu-server
[07:10] <overclucker> uncomment the main repo
[07:10] <johnny5_> losher: I mean he's right on the distro num
[07:10] <overclucker> or your life will be a living hell
[07:11] <QPrime> Aero231: ahh.. then take overclucker's advice. hes right.
[07:11] <losher> Aero231: johnny5_:  so the repository is broken? Unusual, but not unheard of...
[07:11] <overclucker> (especially about the hell on earth part)
[07:11] <abhijit_> hi
[07:11] <BigMike> what is the animated gif creator for linux
[07:11] <johnny5_> losher: no the repository is fine, I ment he's right on the distro number
[07:11] <Aero231> overclucker: which is the "main" repo that's commented?  http://paste.ubuntu.com/234952/
[07:12] <Nick_Meister> guys i cant figure it out for the life of me
[07:12] <abhijit_> hi everyone! anybody knows how to install .tar.gz file?
[07:12] <JRSmile> tar -xvzf file.tar.gz
[07:12] <abhijit_> ok
[07:13] <lstarnes> abhijit_: extract it then look for a README or INSTALL file in it
[07:13] <Aero231> QPrime: whic is the "main" repo that's commented?
[07:13] <johnny5_> Aero231: Do you know how to configure make and install manually? you can try that way.
[07:13] <BigMike> HI all what is the animated gif creator for linux????
[07:13] <Mozillero> ola
[07:13] <losher> Aero231: add: deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ hardy main restricted
[07:13] <Aero231> johnny5_: no thanks, I'd rather fix the package manager
[07:13] <nomad77> BigMike: the gimp,maybe?
[07:14] <losher> Aero231: and also deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ hardy-updates main restricted
[07:14] <mechtech> can anyone tell me why vlc won't populate shoutcast TV listings?
[07:14] <Aero231> losher: thanks so much losher, that worked
[07:14] <mechtech> losher: won't he need to resolve those dependancy errors first?
[07:14] <Aero231> losher: How do you know which repos to add?
[07:14] <BigMike> ok will check the gimp tt
[07:14] <Aero231> where are they listed?
[07:14] <BigMike> ty
[07:15] <overclucker> i actually don't see the main repo listed there
[07:15] <johnny5_> Aero231: It's not that hard lol
[07:15] <losher> Aero231: I copied them out of my /etc/apt/sources.list, since I'm running hardy too. They should have been put there at install time...
[07:15] <Nick_Meister> the sources .list is correct and everything yet it is giving me so mahny errrors
[07:15] <Aero231> losher: very strange, maybe because mine is server version
[07:15] <Aero231> Do you guys know of an online resource where I can get a fresh copy of sources.xml?
[07:16] <losher> Nick_Meister: paste your errors to pastebin please...
[07:16] <lstarnes> Aero231: sources.xml?
[07:16] <mechtech> !paste
[07:16] <tafadzwa> Cest la vie
[07:16] <tafadzwa> Hi all
[07:16] <losher> Aero231: I can paste mine if you wish. Btw: it's not an xml file, it's place old text...
[07:16] <Nick_Meister> losher, http://pastebin.org/4722
[07:16] <Aero231> ok thanks losher
[07:16] <James_Bond> How does a hacker fix a function which doesn't work for all of the elements in its domain? The answer is: He changes the domain.
[07:17] <johnny5_> lol @ Nick_Meister
[07:17] <James_Bond> lol
[07:17] <Mozillero> olaaaaaaaaa
[07:17] <Nick_Meister> :S
[07:17] <tafadzwa> I wanted to ask is there a way to move my whole Ubuntu system to a usb
[07:17] <overclucker> sources aren't stored in xml form
[07:17] <Nick_Meister> what?
[07:17] <Nick_Meister> what does xml have to do with anything?
[07:17] <overclucker> not sure
[07:17] <Mozillero> ola
[07:18] <tafadzwa> I am selling my laptop but I would like to keep a lot of stuff a saved passwords and email from my ubuntu
[07:18] <Mozillero> algun  chcopara  convrsar  al  privado?
[07:18] <nomad77> !es > Mozillero
[07:18] <losher> Nick_Meister: you are having dns problems....
[07:18] <^Einstein> !es | Mozillero
[07:18] <tafadzwa> My USB is 15 gig, my ubuntu is 10 gig
[07:18] <overclucker> that might be an idea for 9.10 though . . .migration to xml . .
[07:18] <Nick_Meister> losher, but its accessing the internet fine, and i can access it from the internet as well
[07:18] <QPrime> Nick_Meister: is that box getting dns resolves properly?
[07:18] <losher> Aero231: http://pastebin.com/f13784418
[07:19] <Nick_Meister> losher, its on my private network right now with me
[07:19] <mechtech> Nick_Meister: losher is correct, was able to resolve archive.ubuntu.com with no problem
[07:19] <Nick_Meister> and im talking to you guys arent i
[07:19] <johnny5_> tafadzwa: Do you want it as backup or to actually run your computer from it>
[07:19] <lstarnes> overclucker: the current sources.list format is easier to parse and doesn't need XML's complex tree structures
[07:19] <Nick_Meister> i used firefox to resolve it as well
[07:19] <tafadzwa> backup
[07:19] <Nick_Meister> so what could be the problem?
[07:19] <tafadzwa> sorry, english is second language
[07:19] <tafadzwa> back up
[07:19] <Nick_Meister> and how can i fix it?
[07:19] <overclucker> lstarnes, very true, especially when working with c
[07:20] <johnny5_> tafadzwa: I would recommend reading about creating a backup image
[07:20] <mechtech> Nick_Meister: are you using dhcp, or a static IP?
[07:20] <QPrime> Nick_Meister: are you able to ping archives.ubuntu.com from the terminal shell?
[07:20] <tafadzwa> thanx
[07:20] <Nick_Meister> mechtech, dhcp
[07:20] <glicks> does anyone know how i can view subtitles on a movie player with .sub and .idx files? i cant seem to get it with any video player
[07:20] <tafadzwa> I will google ASAP
[07:21] <mechtech> Nick_Meister: try setting your DNS to use google's servers...that might help
[07:21] <overclucker> dd if=/dev/blah of=/media/thumbdrive/ubuntu.img
[07:21] <overclucker> or something like that
[07:21] <Nick_Meister> QPrime, actually its failing to ping for some reason
[07:21] <amel> hey
[07:21] <losher> Nick_Meister: no kidding...
[07:21] <Nick_Meister> QPrime, it says unknown host ubuntu.com
[07:21] <wes1> Okay so when I try and remove a broken package with synaptic I'm getting an error saying "E: Could not get lock /var/cache/apt/archives/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)"
[07:22] <johnny5_> tafadzwa: or you could use outside backup software.
[07:22] <amel> hey
[07:22] <overclucker> wes1, you might have another package manager running
[07:22] <QPrime> Nick_Meister: then the dns servers that you are using are not resolving the ubuntu.com hostnames.
[07:23] <Nick_Meister> QPrime, im not using dns servers, i just have a small home server hooked up to my router
[07:23] <johnny5_> yum lol
[07:23] <losher> !backup | tafadzwa
[07:23] <overclucker> try http://www.opendns.com/
[07:23] <nomad77> Nick_Meister: check firewall settings and/or checkout opendns.org
[07:23] <Nick_Meister> QPrime, admittedly i have it hooked up using static ip while overall thing is dhcp, just cause i didnt want it switching around on me
[07:23] <wes1> overclucker: I checked there doesn't seem to be any other package manager running
[07:23] <johnny5_> ubottu: Overachiever :P
[07:24] <Nick_Meister> QPrime, hold on lemme post my network interface file
[07:24] <ActionParsnip> !fixapt
[07:24] <QPrime> Nick_Meister: the router is likely proxying dns or passing the ISP dhcp dns values to the boxes inside your network.
[07:24] <wereHamster> how do I completely remove a package (including config files etc)?
[07:24] <mechtech> Nick_Meister: $ host google.com
[07:24] <mechtech> google.com has address <IP_ADDRESS>
[07:24] <mechtech> google.com has address <IP_ADDRESS>
[07:24] <mechtech> google.com has address <IP_ADDRESS>
[07:24] <FloodBot1> mechtech: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:24] <mechtech> floodbot!
[07:24] <Nick_Meister> QPrime, no the router is using its own dhcp server inside of it
[07:25] <losher> wereHamster: sudo apt-get purge <packagename>
[07:25] <artillerytx> what is the best firewall to use ?
[07:25] <johnny5_> ubottu: you a bot? that was pretty fast...
[07:25] <ActionParsnip> losher: its --purge ;)
[07:25] <tafadzwa> ubottu thank you
[07:25] <QPrime> Nick_Meister: yes, and thants fine... but what dns values it is passing to your clients?
[07:25] <ActionParsnip> !best | artillerytx
[07:25] <ActionParsnip> !firewall | artillerytx
[07:25] <wereHamster> losher: thanks
[07:25] <losher> ActionParsnip: thank you. See that, wereHamster?
[07:25] <indus> artillerytx: use gufw
[07:25] <Nick_Meister> QPrime, how do i find that ?  and this is my interface file http://pastebin.org/4723
[07:26] <indus> artillerytx: i dont know about best, but its the official ubuntu one
[07:26] <artillerytx> okay
[07:26] <indus> !ufw > artillerytx
[07:26] <ActionParsnip> artillerytx: best is a very poor word to qualify something. i suggest you use it less
[07:26] <johnny5_> who made ubottu
[07:26] <Nick_Meister> QPrime, and obviously i can ssh into it through the .15 ip
[07:26] <johnny5_> losher: I'm going to go test what you helped me with lol
[07:26] <losher> Nick_Meister: so what's in your /etc/resolv.conf ?
[07:26] <mechtech> those were old IPs
[07:27] <ActionParsnip> johnny5_: i think she is Pici's but I am unsure he made her
[07:27] <mechtech> host google.com
[07:27] <mechtech> google.com has address <IP_ADDRESS>
[07:27] <mechtech> google.com has address <IP_ADDRESS>
[07:27] <mechtech> google.com has address <IP_ADDRESS>
[07:27] <FloodBot1> mechtech: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:27] <mechtech> ok already
[07:27] <overclucker> lol
[07:27] <Nick_Meister> mechtech, ha0s@cha0s-desktop:~$ host google.com
[07:27] <Nick_Meister> ;; connection timed out; no servers could be reached
[07:27] <johnny5_> Thanks if I don't make it back
[07:27] <ActionParsnip> mechtech: please use pastebin, you have done that twice now
[07:28] <johnny5_> oh and thanks ActionParsnip you'd think she'd know her creator
[07:28] <Nick_Meister> so uhm yah, it got no access to internet for some odd reason
[07:28] <mechtech> Nick_Meister: ping? tracerote?
[07:28] <QPrime> Nick_Meister: you are using a static ip on that box without a specific dns entry.  I'm guessing that its using mDNS to try and resolve hosts. add a dns entry to your ifconfig or set your box back to dhcp and use a dhcp reservation (if your router supports it) to give a consistent address to the box via dhcp.
[07:28] <ActionParsnip> johnny5_: makes sense
[07:28] <abhijit_> i just download eclipse c++ ide as .tar.gz format and i already have eclipse java ide so how to install this c++ide?
[07:28] <abhijit_> anybody?
[07:28] <ActionParsnip> abhijit_: tar zxvf <file>   will get you started
[07:28] <ActionParsnip> !info ide
[07:28] <johnny5_> ActionParsnip: Illogical sir highly illogical
[07:28] <ActionParsnip> !ide
[07:29] <Nick_Meister> QPrime, so the static thing is whats making it not work?
[07:29] <unop> !info eclipse-cdt
[07:29] <TannerS> guys im looking for a program that makes a floating dock just like a mac on ubuntu...it starts with an "a"
[07:29] <unop> abhijit_, ^^ looks like ubuntu already has the C/C++ plugins
[07:29] <Nick_Meister> QPrime, how do i add a dns entry? cause my routers dhcp wont let me specify ips for boxes
[07:29] <QPrime> Nick_Meister: well yes, without a dns server to resolve hostnames things are not going to work correctly.
[07:30] <TannerS> anyone?
[07:30] <ActionParsnip> abhijit_: i suggest youuse eclipse-cdt raher than the file you have, in ubuntu its rare to actually download an app like thta and it uses reposirorys and deb files
[07:30] <losher> Nick_Meister: dns is specificed in /etc/resolv.conf. What does yours say?
[07:30] <mechtech> Nick_Meister: you have specified an IP address to use, but have not told your system where to look in order to resolve domain names into IP addresses...DNS
[07:30] <ActionParsnip> !awn | TannerS
[07:30] <TannerS> damnit thanks!
[07:30] <abhijit_> hi actionparsnip what is this eclise-cdt how to use this?
[07:30] <Nick_Meister> losher, it says nothing
[07:31] <ActionParsnip> abhijit_:  eclipse-cdt (source: eclipse-cdt): C/C++ Development Tools for Eclipse. In component universe, is optional. Version 3.1.2-2 (jaunty), package size 17403 kB, installed size 19844 kB
[07:31] <Nick_Meister> mechtech, whats the property name in the intefaces file to add for the dns
[07:31] <QPrime> Nick_Meister: add a dns-nameservers entry to your interface definition.  you can use one of the dns dervers that mechtech offered
[07:31] <ActionParsnip> abhijit_: sudo apt-get install eclipse-cdt
[07:31] <ActionParsnip> abhijit_: job done
[07:31] <mechtech> Nick_meister: what qprime said
[07:31] <Nick_Meister> QPrime, i was going to use the ones that my router says its using
[07:32] <ActionParsnip> abhijit_: you dont need to the file you ownloaded, like I said, Ubuntu uses repositorys and rarely fils like that
[07:32] <QPrime> Nick_Meister: why are you not using the network manager applet for interface management anyway?
[07:32] <QPrime> Nick_Meister: thats a good choice :)
[07:32] <wes1> Okay so I managed to get rid of the apt-get process, but now I get this when I try and remove the broken package "E: /var/cache/apt/archives/postfix_2.5.5-1.1_i386.deb: subprocess pre-installation script returned error exit status 1"
[07:32] <Nick_Meister> QPrime, i dont have a monitor for the box i only got ssh
[07:32] <abhijit_> ok
[07:32] <mechtech> Nick_meister: those are probably fine, and belong to your isp, but google has like all the bandwidth in the world
[07:32] <abhijit_> thnx actionparsnip
[07:32] <QPrime> Nick_Meister: that should be your ISP's dns server at least
[07:32] <TannerS> where is a good place to get themes?
[07:33] <ActionParsnip> abhijit_: try searching in synaptic before you start downloading stuff from the web
[07:33] <QPrime> Nick_Meister: ahh.. fair enough.
[07:33] <abhijit_> ok
[07:33] <ActionParsnip> !themes > TannerS
[07:33] <TannerS> ty
[07:33] <mechtech> TannerS: http://francois.vogelweith.com/?lang=en
[07:33] <glicks> how the hell do i get movie player to show subtitles with my .sub file?
[07:34] <ActionParsnip> wes1: sudo apt-get clean; sudo apt-get -f install; sudo depmod -a; sudo apt-get update
[07:34] <Nick_Meister> QPrime, i added the following is that ok?         dns-nameservers  <IP_ADDRESS>
[07:34]  * QPrime high-five's mechtech on the irc double team.
[07:34] <Nick_Meister>                          <IP_ADDRESS>
[07:34] <ActionParsnip> glicks: vlc does it
[07:34] <glicks> ActionParsnip, ive tried vlc
[07:34] <QPrime> Nick_Meister: yup
[07:34] <mechtech> QPrime: *High5ing back!
[07:34] <Nick_Meister> QPrime, now how do i make it apply those settings?
[07:34] <MT-> Who was the owner of apple that died?
[07:34] <syntax_> those themez look good mec
[07:34] <mechtech> Nick_Meister: save the file
[07:34] <abhijit_> hi
[07:35] <MT-> wrong chan...
[07:35] <salmon> hey im having some problems with sound in flash... running 9.o4 and have pulse audio device chooser. when i open it it says sound is coming from the flash stream. it also has my sound card chosen. all other sound works. just not flash. any ideas
[07:35] <QPrime> Nick_Meister: you may need to bring the interface down then up.
[07:35] <losher> QPrime: I don't see dns-nameservers documented in man interfaces, which is upsetting...
[07:35] <mechtech> syntax_: I thought so too...installed them earlier, but haven't really checked them out
[07:35] <abhijit_> Hi, is there any web browser than other than firefox but as powerful as firefox?
[07:35] <Nick_Meister> QPrime, how do i do that?
[07:35] <abhijit_> any suggestion?
[07:35] <ActionParsnip> !ot | MT
[07:35] <mechtech> Nick_Meister: man interfaces
[07:36] <Nick_Meister> QPrime, that is all in one go, cause i cant actually see what im doing once its offline lol.
[07:36] <glicks> im running vlc right now
[07:36] <ActionParsnip> abhijit_: opera
[07:36] <Nick_Meister> QPrime, so like restart interface or something
[07:36] <abhijit_> ok
[07:36] <losher> abhijit_: why not just use firefox. It's as powerful as firefox, guaranteed...
[07:36] <ActionParsnip> abhijit_: there are other gecko based browsers like swiftfox, kazenchase etc that are lighter
[07:36] <mechtech> lol@ losher
[07:36] <salmon> ha ha
[07:36] <Nick_Meister> ah screw it ill just reboot it
[07:37] <ActionParsnip> abhijit_: epiphany is nice
[07:37] <salmon> losher, hey thanks for the help from before.. i got everything running now
[07:37] <QPrime> Nick_Meister: make sure that interfaces file is correct and saved then reboot.  thats the only suggestion that I have if you are not local to the box - ie. ssh'd in
[07:37] <MT-> ActionParsnip: that's why I said "wrong channel...."
[07:37] <losher> salmon: excellent, what we like to hear...
[07:37] <salmon> losher, except for sound in flash [grrrr]
[07:37] <wes1> YAY!
[07:37] <abhijit_> i want two browser bcause i have two yahoo account to open at a time thats why..
[07:37] <ActionParsnip> abhijit_: konqueror if you dont mind the qt dependanciy installer (if you don't already have)
[07:37] <syntax_> http://francois.vogelweith.com/?p=124&lang=en wow
[07:37] <losher> salmon: flash/sound issues are notorious in 9.04...
[07:37] <wes1> fix'd thanks ActionParsnip
[07:38] <ActionParsnip> wes1: nice :)
[07:38] <mechtech> abhijit: open two tabs at once
[07:38] <salmon> losher, they worked before :[ just not now
[07:38] <wes1> Now I can go to sleep, see ya'll
[07:39] <salmon> losher, you have any ideas. simple stuff i should check. my brain is spent from solving the install problems
[07:39] <losher> abhijit_: you can open two firefox instances simultaneously if you want to. Use the profile manager and the no-remote options.
[07:39] <att0> If I use the 8.04 LTS install CD, is there a dual-boot install option? And would this allow me to choose whether to boot into XP (primary OS) or Ubuntu every time I turn on my computer?
[07:39] <losher> salmon: sorry, I gave up on 9.04 and went back to 8.04....
[07:40] <salmon> att0, yes and yes
[07:40] <losher> att0: yes, that's exactly how it will work...
[07:40] <ActionParsnip> abhijit_: try a few browsers if you want dude. firefox is by no means "best', but neither is it "worst"
[07:40] <abhijit_> losher if i open two firefox at a time but is it possible then to open two different yahoo mail id on that two firefox instance?
[07:40] <att0> thank you, off to install :)
[07:40] <whammo> hello my sound stopped working after update, any tips?
[07:40] <salmon> losher, don't blame ya, i would do the same if it wasn't for the fact that sound has only worked in WoW in 9.04
[07:40] <losher> abhijit_: if you use two different profiles, the two firefoxes will be completely independent. Simpler to open one firefox and one opera though...
[07:41] <Nick_Meister> QPrime, noodles, lol cant connect to it anymore :(
[07:41] <abhijit_> ok losher
[07:41] <abhijit_> i try
[07:41] <ActionParsnip> whammo: try: amixer -q set PCM 100% unmute
[07:41] <QPrime> Nick_Meister: oh hell :(
[07:41] <QPrime> Nick_Meister: is ot on the same ip subnet?
[07:41] <mechtech> night-all...time to veg, then sleep
[07:41] <losher> salmon: wish I have a dime for everyone on this channel with 9.04 sound/flash issues...sorry...
[07:41] <Nick_Meister> QPrime, i didnt do anything but adding those two lines
[07:42] <whammo> no such file
[07:42] <salmon> ActionParsnip, just had to say i have seen you on here before, and i love your s/n it makes me laugh every time
[07:42] <whammo> don't have amixer
[07:42] <ActionParsnip> salmon: its a harry hill joke. Glad i make youo laugh :D:D
[07:42] <QPrime> Nick_Meister: two lines?  you only needed the dns-nameservers line
[07:42] <losher> NIck_meister: QPrime: I don't see dns-nameservers documented in man interfaces. Are you sure it works? What about /etc/resolv.conf?
[07:42] <whammo> fresh install of 9.04, sound worked before update
[07:42] <abhijit_> hi losher i just tried you suggestion but it doesnt work
[07:43] <QPrime> Nick_Meister: what TWO lines did you add?
[07:43] <salmon> losher, yeah i have heard, the most painful part is before my hdd crash. all i had to do was install flash. and now. i get this :[
[07:43] <ActionParsnip> whammo: sometmes PCM likes to start on 0, its bizarre, that line is from my fixsound script
[07:43] <glicks> this sucks
[07:43] <abhijit_> i thinkg i should try some light brower
[07:43] <losher> abhijit_: which suggestion? And doesn't work how?
[07:43] <abhijit_> browser
[07:43] <losher> abhijit_: you are a master of brevity...
[07:43] <Nick_Meister> QPrime,  the ones i posted on here
[07:44] <ActionParsnip> abhijit_: try Kazehakase or midori
[07:44] <whammo> according to desktop applet, PCM is 35% or so. could it be muted somewhere else?
[07:44] <ActionParsnip> whammo: run your volume manager, see whats shaking
[07:45] <ActionParsnip> abhijit_: Kazehakase is default in Fluxbuntu
[07:45] <abhijit_> losher when i open 1st firefox then i open 2nd instance. then on 2nd instance i have to sing out first account then sign in again for new account but after doing this when i go back to 1st instace then there is also new account is logged in and it ask password
[07:45] <QPrime> Nick_Meister: ahh ok two nameservers lines.
[07:45] <abhijit_> any way actionparsnip i will try softfox
[07:45] <Nick_Meister> QPrime, yah
[07:45] <abhijit_> sorry swiftfox
[07:45] <abhijit_> thnx
[07:45] <abhijit_> all of u
[07:45] <ActionParsnip> hehe, they all have the same gecko base
[07:45] <QPrime> Nick_Meister:  is that box on the same subnet as your current machine?
[07:46] <whammo> volume control indicates nothing odd, preferences sound test gives no error, bouncing bar goes back and forth silently
[07:46] <jacquesdupontd> hi
[07:46] <ActionParsnip> !opera | abhijit_
[07:46] <losher> abhijit_: that's because you aren't using different profiles. Use one opera and one firefox.  I was enjoying following along...
[07:47] <abhijit_> thnx ubottu
[07:47] <jacquesdupontd> yes i know
[07:47] <jacquesdupontd> sorry for that
[07:47] <jacquesdupontd> it passed in my head and had to tell it
[07:47] <jacquesdupontd> ActionParsnip, you're testing the bot ?
[07:47] <losher> jacquesdupontd: and no abuse towards mosquitoes either, you hear?
[07:47] <jacquesdupontd> ActionParsnip, or searching for informations ?
[07:48] <jacquesdupontd> losher, hehe yes :)
[07:48] <whammo> well thanks anyway
[07:48] <jacquesdupontd> whammo, what do you search ?
[07:49] <heroid> can i make a cd uncopyable with ubuntu?
[07:49] <qpmm> How can I disambiguate where my sound card's audio is going? (e.g. /dev/audio, /dev/snd, etc) Is there a configuration file, a command, or any way?
[07:49] <pisse> Hi! I really need some help! :( My computer freezes during boot (can't get to login screen and instead shows me last sessions screen, flickers and then shows me 2 of the ubuntu load bar on the upper side of screen and the last sessions desktop but very messed up on the bottom...) I've tried to go into safe mode and go to the terminal and use dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg twice but hasn't helped at all! Last session I tried
[07:49] <whammo> i search "ubuntu sound not working after update" and read many posts about unmuting. I'm not muted.
[07:49] <jacquesdupontd> the sun java is rising over my headset (like that it doesn't seems offset ? does it ?)
[07:49] <losher> heroid: interesting question. No, I don't think you can....
[07:49] <jacquesdupontd> whammo, did you checked pulse
[07:49] <jacquesdupontd> !pulse
[07:50] <abhijit_> thnkx all of u i just install eclipse-cdt and it is working fine.
[07:50] <heroid> losher, i posted about this on the forums but nothing
[07:50] <whammo> ohhhh i probably need to KILL pulse, it does nothing good for me. thanks, I'll go do that
[07:50] <jacquesdupontd> that's what i did for many reason
[07:50] <jacquesdupontd> i deleted pulse
[07:51] <ActionParsnip> jacquesdupontd: i use it but only because it works out of the box for me.
[07:51] <jacquesdupontd> whammo, for skype for exemple
[07:51] <losher> heroid: I'm not surprised. CD manufacturers have been trying to make uncopiable cds for years, and they haven't succeeded. So what chance do you have?
[07:51] <whammo> i don't want to remove any "essential" packages so I'll just settle for crippling it ;P
[07:51] <n0ahNetbook> Hello All! Anyone familiar with how to adjust the brightness on an eeepc 901 from the terminal.  I attempting to map a hotkey but don't know what command to supply.
[07:51] <jacquesdupontd> ActionParsnip, hehe ok was just wondering if you were trying to find something and if i could help ya
[07:51] <ActionParsnip> jacquesdupontd: help away. it's always welcommed
[07:52] <qpmm> Is there a configuration file, command, or ANY other means of disambugating where a sound card is outputting audio? (e.g. /dev/audio, /dev/snd, etc)
[07:52] <C-S-B> i have my entire home partition encrypted with truecrypt, i have a fake .profile in an empty home/csb folder which prompts the mounting of my home directory. This works but I have to log in again after the .profile has mounted my home folder. Is there a better place to put the truecrypt mount line?
[07:52] <whammo> um what about skype?
[07:52] <jacquesdupontd> ActionParsnip, now i'm woken up cause of those oops
[07:52] <whammo> sorry I don't know anything about skype
[07:52] <heroid> C-S-B, no with truecrypt it doesn't work
[07:52] <jacquesdupontd> whammo, big problem with pulse
[07:52] <jacquesdupontd> whammo, i mean not big, but anoying
[07:52] <pisse> n0ahNetbook: You should try out eeebuntu :) I use it on my eee pc 901 and all hotkeys work
[07:53] <whammo> does ubotu have a handy link for disabling pulse?
[07:53] <jacquesdupontd> pisse, didn't knew there was a eeebuntu
[07:53] <overclucker> yuk, eeebuntu
[07:53] <ActionParsnip> !pulse
[07:53] <pisse> jacquesdupontd: http://eeebuntu.org/
[07:53] <whammo> !pulsedie
[07:53] <overclucker> just use the scripts from eeebuntu
[07:54] <TannerS> Guys I have windows vista and windows 7 installed in my system, but grub bootloader only sees the vista one, what cna i do?
[07:54] <n0ahNetbook> pisse: thanks I'm actually in love with netbook remix, all of my hotkeys work after installing eee-control I just want to make the do different things
[07:54] <losher> C-S-B: can I see the line from the fake .profile ?
[07:54] <jacquesdupontd> whammo, f you decide you no longer like PulseAudio and would like to disable it: Remove the added lines to /etc/asound.conf If /etc/asound.conf did not exist when you installed PulseAudio, you may remove /etc/asound.conf entirely.
[07:55] <jacquesdupontd> whammo, it's on the link i gave you before
[07:55] <ActionParsnip> TannerS: you will need to add an entry in /boot/grub/menu.lst to boot the other OS
[07:55] <jacquesdupontd> thx pisse
[07:55] <overclucker> eeebuntu itself is so configured towards a specific usergroup, that it looses a lot of it's luster
[07:55] <TannerS> ActionParsnip, im alreayd viewing the file, just dont know which..... well my vista entry has this in it (hd0,0) idk what my win 7 is, maybe (hd0,10?
[07:55] <whammo> excellent jacques thanks
[07:55] <TannerS> *(hd0,1)
[07:56] <ActionParsnip> TannerS: the entry that boots the vista is pretty much what you need but the partition used will be different
[07:56] <C-S-B_> losher: its just truecrypt /dev/sda3 /home
[07:56] <ActionParsnip> TannerS: if you only have 1 disk, the first number will always be 0
[07:57] <C-S-B_> losher: it works, but after the mount, Im brought back to the login screen to log in again
[07:57] <ashish> hi to all
[07:57] <LiraNuna> postfix doesn't answer to me in telnet, anyone has an idea?
[07:57] <ActionParsnip> TannerS: if you read the output of: sudo fdisk -l  you will see what partition number (you will need to subtract 1 as grub numbers start at 0 and linux start numbers at 1)
[07:57] <ashish> i am wrkng on astgui client
[07:57] <ashish> for ubuntu sysytem
[07:57] <C-S-B_> losher: which is a little unnecessary
[07:57] <TannerS> ActionParsnip , ok let me see
[07:57] <akalias> I have an old VMWare appliance -- gutsy gibbon `headless` server.  The /etc/apt/sources.list is out of date.  apt-get always fails. What can I do to fix it?
[07:57] <LiraNuna> telnet localhost 25 // connects but doesn't reply 250 mail.something.com
[07:57] <ActionParsnip> TannerS: make an extra entry and you can try it, if it boots, great, if not, boot to Ubuntu and re-edit
[07:57] <whammo> hmm my asound.conf is a blank page
[07:58] <akalias> I understand gutsy gibbon is `out of service`
[07:58] <ashish> Can anybody help me to install vicidial for asterisk in an ubuntu syaytem
[07:58] <TannerS> Actionparsnip, so what u mean is if it says sda2 for win 7 put it has (hd0,1) ?
[07:58] <ActionParsnip> akalias: it has readhed its end of life
[07:58] <ActionParsnip> TannerS: yep
[07:58] <losher> C-S-B: Are you saying you get logged out automatically after the .profile runs?
[07:58] <ActionParsnip> TannerS: assuming sda is the first disk according to grub
[07:59] <ActionParsnip> TannerS: if you only have a single disk, the answer is definately yes
[07:59] <TannerS> sda1 is wind vista sda2 is win 7, in the menu file says win vista boot loader entry is (hd0,0)
[07:59] <TannerS> and yes
[07:59] <ActionParsnip> TannerS: don't worry if its wrong it wont break anything, just that entry won't boot anything
[07:59] <akalias> @ActionParsnip    How can I upgrade to another distro?  apt-get dist-upgrade fails
[08:00] <pisse> I still need help getting to the login screen due to (most likely) messed up graphics config.
[08:00] <ActionParsnip> TannerS: why do you need vista and 7 installed?
[08:00] <ActionParsnip> !upgrade > akalias
[08:00] <akalias> tnks
[08:00] <C-S-B_> losher: no, im saying i log in, am prompted by trucrypt for my encryption password, it mounts home then i am taken back to the login screen where i have to log in again then my system is up.
[08:00] <jacquesdupontd> that's weird every time i ask something on #ubuntustudio nobody answers, do anybody knows a bit about ubuntustudio ?
[08:00] <ActionParsnip> pisse: boot system, press esc at grub, select recovery mode, select fix graphics, reboot
[08:00] <TannerS> Actionparsnip, win vista main OS and testing out win7 64 bit, and getting used ot it now =] also i cant edit the menu file how can i open it as root?
[08:00] <jacquesdupontd> !ubuntustudio
[08:01] <ActionParsnip> TannerS: gksudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[08:01] <TannerS> ty
[08:01] <pisse> ActionParsnip: I've tried that with no success :( also did the dkpg-reconfigure xserver-xorg command with no luck
[08:01] <ActionParsnip> TannerS: or sudo nano /boot/grub/menu.lst   if you prefer nano, etc
[08:01] <ashish> i hav downloaded astguiclient package for vicidial ,but i stuck in last point and also, i wana to know about any manual entries for configuration
[08:02] <ActionParsnip> pisse: then you can boot to recovery root console, run:   nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf    and set the driver to "vesa"  for the video card
[08:02] <jacquesdupontd> whammo, sudo apt-get --purge remove pulseaudio
[08:02] <TannerS> ok going to tets brb  guys
[08:02] <akalias> @ActionParsnip  Just wanted to say thanks again. Very much appreciated -- ok I stop polluting the channel now
[08:02] <losher> C-S-B_: 'taken back to the login screen' <-- I don't understand this part. taken back by what? Why doesn't your login session simply continue after /home is mounted?
[08:03] <ActionParsnip> akalias: np man :)
[08:04] <QPrime> losher: Nick_Meister is good to go now.  just chatting with him in priv now.
[08:04] <C-S-B_> losher: i dont know why. I just am. Its an unecessary step im trying to rid off. I would like my session to continue when /home is mounted.
[08:04] <whammo> thanks but I don't want to remove ubuntu-desktop I'm sure there's a way to cripple PA instead of removing it
[08:04] <oldude67> C-S-B_, did you say you was using truecrypt on your /home?
[08:04] <losher> QPrime: what was the problem?
[08:04] <C-S-B_> oldude67: yes, my entired home partition is encypted
[08:05] <TannerS> damn no louck
[08:05] <qiyong> jaunty is 9.04 ?
[08:05] <pisse> ActionParsnip: Seems like the reconfigure changed a lot in xorg.conf? I don't even have a driver option there. Is it  in section "Device" I should have like Driver "vesa" ?
[08:05] <losher> C-S-B_: it's going to be hard to remove that unnecessary step it we can't figure out why it happens in the first place....
[08:06] <TannerS> ActionParsnip , no luck =/
[08:06] <QPrime> losher: hes using intrepid, the newer interfaces setups dont seem to work, went back to resolv.conf (as you had suggested)
[08:06] <qiyong> !jaunty
[08:06] <C-S-B_> losher: i know, thats why im in this situation. :9
[08:06] <C-S-B_> :(
[08:06] <ActionParsnip> pisse: you can add the line:     Driver "vesa"
[08:06] <losher> QPrime: got it...
[08:06] <ActionParsnip> !grub | TannerS
[08:07] <C-S-B_> oldude67: any suggestions from you?
[08:07] <jacquesdupontd> ActionParsnip, there is simplier ways
[08:07] <ActionParsnip> jacquesdupontd: to do what?
[08:07] <jacquesdupontd> ActionParsnip, i know a tool for restoring grub that works perfectly on ubcd
[08:08] <ActionParsnip> jacquesdupontd: its not really restoring, its addig an extra option for windows
[08:08] <jacquesdupontd> ActionParsnip, this boot cd is really cool and plenty of tools and always usefull in such situation www.ultimatebootcd.com
[08:08] <phurl> how can i get apt on fedora to download debs?
[08:08] <ActionParsnip> jacquesdupontd: used it a billion times dude
[08:08] <pisse> ActionParsnip: Anywhere or in a specific section?
[08:08] <jacquesdupontd> ActionParsnip, great im not alone :)
[08:08] <losher> QPrime: I couldn't find much mention of a dns-nameservers keyword even in google. Is it very new?
[08:08] <ActionParsnip> pisse: in the configured video device section
[08:08] <legend2440> hello i'm using jaunty with gnome. when i plug in kodak dx3500 digital camera and type  lsusb in terminal it doesn't show up. however, when i plug in sandisk mp3 player it does show up in lsusb. any ideas what i can try?
[08:09] <ActionParsnip> jacquesdupontd: used to work in a pc repair shop, idiots forgetting their admin pass all the time. classic
[08:09] <jacquesdupontd> ActionParsnip, HAHA exactly same
[08:09] <radioman-lt> ;}
[08:09] <pisse> ActionParsnip: ok, thnx.. rebooting
[08:09] <jacquesdupontd> ActionParsnip, i have my enterprise of repairing computer
[08:09] <ActionParsnip> legend2440: does the kodak show itself in the output of dmesg
[08:09] <rww> phurl: you'd want to ask #fedora about that, this channel is only for Ubuntu support.
[08:09] <legend2440> ActionParsnip: let me check
[08:09] <ActionParsnip> jacquesdupontd: been and done it, i fix thousands of servers now, remotely from uk to usa
[08:10] <jacquesdupontd> ActionParsnip, wow great :)
[08:10] <losher> ActionParsnip: jacquesdupontd: so what does it cost per hour to recover a lost admin password these days?
[08:10] <jacquesdupontd> ActionParsnip, it must pay a lot more now no ? :)
[08:10] <redDEAD> im looking for a program that records both video and audio. Id like to make a video podcast using my webcam and mic.
[08:11] <ActionParsnip> losher: we did it for 20 quid
[08:11] <jacquesdupontd> losher, i make everybody pay 45 euros for repairing i go to their house and they don't pay if i don't repair, and its 45 euros for everything except reinstallation which is 100 euros
[08:11] <ActionParsnip> losher: takes about 3 mins
[08:11] <rww> jacquesdupontd, ActionParsnip, losher: This discussion would probably better fit #ubuntu-offtopic :)
[08:12] <losher> rww: you're right of course, but it's a slow night...
[08:12] <losher> ActionParsnip: jacquesdupontd: $90 an hour here (san francisco).
[08:12] <jacquesdupontd> rww we are helping people we can have sometimes a litle discution between without going all 3 on offtopic dont abuse this offtopic thing
[08:12] <jacquesdupontd> losher, omg
[08:13] <whammo> i found an excellent guide to disable pulse instead of purging it thanks guys somebody should tell Ubottu about http://idyllictux.wordpress.com/2009/04/21/ubuntu-904-jaunty-keeping-the-beast-pulseaudio-at-bay/
[08:13] <jacquesdupontd> losher, me its 45 euros for any time it takes
[08:13] <pisse> ActionParsnip: Didn't work.. same stuff happend again. It flickers and shows me a messed up picture of the last time I managed to login and then also shows me the loading-bar in wierd colors.. the loading-bar appears on both the top left and top right corners as if the resolution were 1/4 of the screen. When the comp crashed the resolution was lower than otherwise. Maybe if I specify the res it will work? Where can I do th
[08:13] <kevin_> hello, I'm using jaunty on an eeepc HE1000HEB.  I recently switched from an eee specific version of the distro to the generic ubuntu.  Eeeasy Peasy was based on Intrepid or Hardy and I have to be on the bleading razer edge, so I wasn't going to stick around.  The transition went super except that totom will no loger play some media formats.  I tried to update gstreamer* but it says the version in the repo is corrupt or something.  I'm a bit o
[08:13] <kevin_> f linux noob, so can anyone recommend a way for me to restore this functionality?
[08:13] <jacquesdupontd> losher, last one for a vista not booting at all lost BOOTMGR and it tooks quite a long time
[08:14] <losher> ActionParsnip: jacquesdupontd: very interesting, thanks guys, sorry rww
[08:14] <ActionParsnip> pisse: if you log in to root console, then run:   su <your normal username>
[08:14] <ActionParsnip> pisse: then run startx, does it load?
[08:15] <losher> C-S-B_: are you running gnome?
[08:15] <jacquesdupontd> losher, i should may come to san francisco :)
[08:15] <C-S-B_> losher: yes
[08:15] <pisse> ActionParsnip: I'll check! Another note is that when I press the power button when seeing the messed up screen it goes back to the loading-bar and acts normally.
[08:15] <C-S-B_> losher: im think about adding an init.d script maybe
[08:15] <QPrime> losher: http://wiki.debian.org/NetworkConfiguration  <-- debian wiki entry on it. not new at all, but interface specific.
[08:16] <sh4rk89> hi man
[08:16] <sh4rk89> i'm italian so I'm sorry for my bad english
[08:16] <ActionParsnip> !it | sh4rk89
[08:16] <losher> C-S-B_: I'm wondering if the session dies because the fake home directory doesn't have any gnome configuration files. Er, it is writeable isn't it?
[08:16] <jacquesdupontd> sh4rk89, i listen to you
[08:16] <pisse> ActionParsnip: starx gives me the same old messed up screen.. :(
[08:16] <switcher> hi, i'm trying to install phpmyadmin but the package cannot be found?
[08:17] <jacquesdupontd> ActionParsnip is in secret love with ubottu
[08:17] <legend2440> ActionParsnip: i did  dmesg > nocamera.txt  with no camera plugged in and then  dmesg > camerapluggedin.txt with the camera plugged in usb and there is no difference in the files
[08:17] <pisse> ActionParsnip: and I can't do anything (ctrl+alt+backspace for example doesn't work)
[08:17] <C-S-B_> losher: its writeable and there are gnome configs in it
[08:17] <rww> switcher: it should be there. Have you done "sudo apt-get update" recently?
[08:17] <ActionParsnip> pisse: bah, and just to test, try it without the su step (running as root, really bad idea but worth a test)
[08:17] <losher> jacquesdupontd: $90 an hour doesn't go far in SF. It's an expensive city...
[08:17] <switcher> rww: yes i done that first
[08:17] <legend2440> !dontzap | pisse
[08:17] <ActionParsnip> pisse: its alt+k+print screen now
[08:17] <losher> C-S-B_: sorry then, I have no better theory...
[08:18] <jacquesdupontd> losher, i can imagine but here it's expensive to in France and where i live
[08:18] <sh4rk89> i've a problem with ubuntu. I've a x86-64 compatible processor, so I recompiled the kernel with ARCH="x86_64". So now I'm using a x86-64 kernel with 32bit userspace.
[08:18] <switcher> rww: is it because i'm using the ubuntu-live-cd on test that the phpmyadmin package cannot be found?
[08:18] <Flannel> jacquesdupontd, losher: please take it to #ubuntu-offtopic, thanks.
[08:18] <jacquesdupontd> losher, just imagine i work 10 hours i got 900$ by days, it can be quite correct don't you think ?
[08:19] <jacquesdupontd> Flannel, sorry
[08:19] <sh4rk89> The problem is that I can't install the nVidia driver for my video card. I've downloaded the 64bit version, but It say to me "nvidia-installer not found"
[08:19] <losher> jacquesdupontd: meet me in #ubuntu-offtopic...
[08:19] <pisse> ActionParsnip: Same stuff running as root...
[08:20] <ActionParsnip> sh4rk89: sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx-180   if you card is less than a few years old
[08:20] <sh4rk89> I tryed to extract the file from the .run package and run it manually but....I can't execute it! It say "file not found" even if I use the relative path or absolute path
[08:20] <pisse> ActionParsnip: am I f:ed?
[08:21] <switcher> rww: is it because i'm using the ubuntu-live-cd on test that the phpmyadmin package cannot be found?
[08:21] <ActionParsnip> pisse: not at all, just need to work out whats going on. If you startx as user, then use alt+k+sysrq you can drop back to command line then run:  less /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[08:21] <RobertWall> switcher: I'm not sure. To be honest, I'd recommend installing phpmyadmin from upstream anyway. The package is probably harder to set up than the tarball.\
[08:22] <switcher> ok thanks
[08:23] <pisse> ActionParsnip: alt+k+sysrq doesn't work
[08:23] <ActionParsnip> pisse: then follow the dontzap factoid
[08:23] <ActionParsnip> !dontzap | pisse
[08:24] <pisse> ActionParsnip: k
[08:24] <sh4rk89> ActionParsnip: ok...but I want to know why I can't execute that file. I also try chmod a=rwx but nothing is changed. You don't have some ideas? However the driver packed for ubuntu didn't work when I installed the system.
[08:24] <sleepy_cat> is it possible for me to have the Notify-OSD notification system in Ubuntu 9.04 in Ubuntu 8.10 ?
[08:25] <ActionParsnip> sh4rk89: you need to chmod +x the file, then when the log on screen arrives, change the session to console logon
[08:25] <ActionParsnip> sh4rk89: kill gdm and x server, run the app, then reboot
[08:25] <sh4rk89> ActionParsnip: ok, I've done that...the gdm service doesn't execute automatically.
[08:26] <sh4rk89> the problem is that I can't execute that file (nvidia-installer)
[08:26] <sh4rk89> (i'll come back soon)
[08:26] <ActionParsnip> sh4rk89: http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&ct=res&cd=1&url=http%3A%2F%2Fubuntuforums.org%2Fshowthread.php%3Ft%3D990978&ei=KqhuSq3_NsyQtgfK0bzMCA&usg=AFQjCNH5HaufLeEnQJ2rPHP5FrKjObot9g
[08:27] <ActionParsnip> sh4rk89: to make a file executable you need  chmod +x <file>
[08:27] <DrMrHorse> ati left in the dust without a propriety driver for jaunty, and the OS one doesn't work right. i understand there may be a ppa for the OS but I can't find it. anybody know where I should look?
[08:27] <ActionParsnip> sh4rk89: then run it with ./<filename>   make sure the pwd is the same as the folder containing the file
[08:28] <sleepy_cat> Notify-OSD notification system in Ubuntu 8.10
[08:28] <sleepy_cat> anyone
[08:28] <ActionParsnip> DrMrHorse: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI
[08:28] <ActionParsnip> !find notify-osd
[08:29] <ActionParsnip> !info notify-osd intrepid
[08:29] <ActionParsnip> sleepy_cat: you can compile it yourself, or find a ppa of someone who has already compiled it
[08:29] <DrMrHorse> ty mr ActionParsnip
[08:29] <rww> DrMrHorse: There are a few, depending on what level of stability you want. See https://launchpad.net/~xorg-edgers/+archive/ppa and the various other PPAs linked in its description.
[08:30] <DrMrHorse> also ty mr/ms rww
[08:30] <pisse> ActionParsnip: Uhmm.. didn't work. I installed dontzap and disabled it and then starx from user and then I couldn't  do either ctrl+alt+backspace nor alt+k+sysrq..
[08:30] <DrMrHorse> damn, its always you two that help me out
[08:30] <barry> salut mec
[08:30] <rww> !fr | barry
[08:30] <barry> hi
[08:31] <pisse> ActionParsnip: maybe when running as user it totally crashes cause I can't use the powerbutton when I do that..
[08:31] <barry> hi to every people
[08:31] <sleepy_cat> ActionParsnip: i saw http://news.softpedia.com/news/Installing-Ubuntu-9-04-039-s-New-Notifications-in-Ubuntu-8-10-105221.shtml but it says cant do for pidgin :(
[08:31] <ActionParsnip> pisse: i'd look at getting that nailed, you could try remove --purgeing gdm, then reinstalling it
[08:32] <Void> me voy
[08:32] <sleepy_cat> any hope for making it work for pidgin also
[08:32] <Innxis> Hello! I have a problem with my keyboard. If I press CTRL, ALT or SHIFT, the keyboard signals sent to the computer doesn't work. For example, if I press CTRL, I hear a bios sound and if I start typing, nothing happens. Also, the mouse gets affected as well, left click having the same action as right click.
[08:33] <Innxis> I can disactivate this by pressing those keys again till I can type.
[08:33] <rww> sleepy_cat: you'd need to get Jaunty's pidgin package too, which probably has a bunch of jaunty dependencies...
[08:33] <Saruji> Hello everyone, I have a question, in setting up VirtualBox, there is an option for the CD-ROM called "pass through" what does this do?
[08:34] <Slart> Saruji: probably makes your "real" cd rom available in the vm
[08:34] <Myrtti> Saruji: it gives the virtual machine direct access to the hardware cd-rom of the host computer
[08:34] <rww> Saruji: I think it means that it exposes the machine's actual CD-ROM drive and the CD in it to the virtual machine.
[08:34] <om26er> hello every1
[08:34] <Saruji> slart myrtti rww thank you
[08:34] <sleepy_cat> oh ok
[08:34] <Innxis> Some help on my topic, please?
[08:35] <TannerS> grrrr
[08:35] <om26er> can anyone please tell me a link to download the base install system of jaunty
[08:35] <sleepy_cat> so basicall rww its no use to try for pidgin to work with that because then there will be some problem with the pidgin to work
[08:35] <KB1JWQ> Innxis: You using a KVM?
[08:35] <Innxis> What's that?
[08:35] <Myrtti> !mini | om26er
[08:36] <pisse> ActionParsnip: Same same again... uninstalled and installed gdm...
[08:36] <rww> sleepy_cat: basically, if you want features from Jaunty, you should be using Jaunty, rather than trying to patch together stuff from Jaunty and stuff from Intrepid.
[08:36] <ActionParsnip> pisse: did you use the --purge option?
[08:36] <om26er> Myrtti: no that one downloads components from the internet
[08:36] <soreau> Innxis: Does /var/log/Xorg.0.log show any problems, like evdev not loading for instance?
[08:36] <Innxis> Whatever I did, it seems that it was a Keyboard Settings problem from the OS. Now it works without a problem...still testing
[08:36] <barry> oh i regret i don't speech english
[08:36] <root> hello guys
[08:36] <sleepy_cat> hmm
[08:36] <root> i need some iptables help
[08:36] <pisse> ActionParsnip: yes
[08:36] <ActionParsnip> root: please tell me you aren't logged on as root
[08:36] <Guest63771> i have  server runnign with squid
[08:37] <om26er> Myrtti: I was asking for an image like 200-250 mb without the need to download components
[08:37] <sleepy_cat> ohk so will have to do without pidgin updated notifications:(
[08:37] <Guest63771> and  i have done transparent erdirection with iptables
[08:37] <ActionParsnip> pisse: ok and have you read the x log?
[08:37] <ActionParsnip> !iptables | root
[08:37] <Guest63771> butit is not able to connect to any pop smtp through proxy
[08:37] <Guest63771> so i enable ip forwarding
[08:37] <pisse> ActionParsnip: nope, where is it?
[08:37] <Guest63771> and what rules do i need in forward chain
[08:37] <Innxis> Thank you anyway.
[08:37] <Guest63771> to allow forwarding of only pop/smtp
[08:37] <ActionParsnip> pisse: run:   less /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[08:37] <Myrtti> Guest63771: keep your question to one line
[08:38] <Guest63771> hmm
[08:38] <TannerS> ActionParsnip, i have such a wierd error
[08:38] <legend2440> anyone had any luck with kodak digital cameras and jaunty with gnome?i have two kodak cameras and nethe is detected by  lsusb or dmesg
[08:39] <pisse> ActionParsnip: What am I looking for? I can't post it here since this is my laptop
[08:39] <ActionParsnip> TannerS: ask the channel
[08:39] <Guest63771> iptables forward help
[08:39] <Guest63771> :(
[08:39] <om26er> ActionParsnip: you must know this. is there any cd image of ubunu-base install which does not require the internet during installation
[08:39] <losher> barry: you know about #ubuntu-fr ?
[08:39] <rww> om26er: yes, the regular live CD or the alternate CD.
[08:39] <ActionParsnip> pisse: you can use: sudo apt-get install pastebinit; pastebinit /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[08:39] <Fragsworth> After I do apt-get install memcached, does it automatically run the daemon and put it in the system on startup?
[08:39] <om26er> rww: alternate cd do require internet
[08:40] <rww> om26er: no, it doesn't
[08:40] <TannerS> ok well guys, my grub boot loader gives me an option to choose ubuntu or windows, but i cant add a secon windows entry, and i found out why, in grub when i choose windows, it takes me then to windows boot loader and ask me which windows to load vista or 7 :S
[08:40] <TannerS> '
[08:40] <ActionParsnip> om26er: you could put the alternate cd on a usb stick and boot to the minimal iso maybe
[08:40] <barry> yes i now
[08:40] <om26er> rww: and the normal live cd does not install base
[08:40] <barry> yeah i know
[08:40] <losher> barry: ok, just making sure...
[08:40] <om26er> ActionParsnip: what that mean
[08:41] <rww> ActionParsnip: what's the benefit of doing that over just booting from the alternate CD?
[08:41] <pisse> ActionParsnip: pastebin.com/f73d395a7
[08:41] <Guest63771> i have transparent proxy setup in squid and iptables rule but clients need to access outside smtp/pop without proxy  so i enabled ip forwarding with default policy of drop on forward chain  .. what rules do i need to allow only forward for port 25 and 110 ???
[08:41] <barry> ok tanks , it ' s my 2 connection
[08:41] <ActionParsnip> om26er: you can use the alternate cd as an offline repo, boot to the minimal cd then use the offline repo to install what you wish. it may not work but makes sense
[08:42] <Guest63771> ?
[08:42] <pisse> ActionParsnip: The resolution should be bigger imo..
[08:42] <ActionParsnip> rww: you can choose what you want to install with minimal
[08:42] <om26er> ActionParsnip: can you please provide a link for tutoria;
[08:42] <ActionParsnip> om26er: there isnt one. i just thought of it just now
[08:42] <sleepy_cat> while doing that i got an error.. it says libnotify is 0.4.4 and i require 0.4.5 can i update it
[08:42] <rww> ActionParsnip: alternate doesn't let you do that? I thought it did =/
[08:43] <om26er> ActionParsnip: ok boot from minimal and select the alternate cd image ??
[08:43] <ActionParsnip> rww: not sure, i dont use the alternate so couldnt comment
[08:43] <barry> i m loose
[08:43] <barry> lost
[08:43] <ActionParsnip> om26er: if you use the alternate cd i think it will do what you need
[08:43] <Myrtti> barry: /join #ubuntu-fr
[08:43] <sleepy_cat> how to update libnotify to 0.4.5
[08:43] <heroid>
[08:43] <ActionParsnip> pisse: theres nothing there
[08:44] <pisse> ActionParsnip: row 1905 looks interesting? http://pastebin.com/f73d395a7
[08:44] <om26er> ActionParsnip: alternate cd asks for a cd rom module to load and I don't have any cd rom for my netbook
[08:44] <ActionParsnip> pisse: then uninstall the ati video driver
[08:45] <ActionParsnip> om26er: if you put it on a usb stick you can install from that
[08:46] <om26er> ok unetbootin is working atm when its done I will again bother you
[08:46] <ActionParsnip> om26er: if you have a windows system you can use this guide: http://www.pendrivelinux.com/usb-ubuntu-804-persistent-install-tutorial/
[08:46] <ActionParsnip> om26er: the bottom guide is what i use
[08:47] <sleepy_cat> how should i update to Ubuntu 8.10 libnotify 0.4.5
[08:47] <sleepy_cat> to* 0.4.5
[08:47] <om26er> I have fedora and ubuntu
[08:47] <Myrtti> sleepy_cat: why would you want to update it to 0.4.5?
[08:47] <om26er> ActionParsnip: I have fedora and ubuntu
[08:47] <rww> Myrtti: because they're trying to patch in notify-osd to intrepid :(
[08:48] <ActionParsnip> om26er: er....ok
[08:48] <sleepy_cat> because i was trying out this http://news.softpedia.com/news/Installing-Ubuntu-9-04-039-s-New-Notifications-in-Ubuntu-8-10-105221.shtml but here in step2 i got stuk up in autogen.sh because libnotify is 0.4.5 reqd and i have 0.4.4
[08:48] <ActionParsnip> om26er: yuo can use the top half then
[08:48] <sh4rk89> ActionParsnip: I've done ALL the action listed on that forum but it still not working. The driver is a auto-extract archive (.run) so it extract itself to a temporary directory (/tmp/"randomchar"/) and it has to exectute /tmp/"randomchar"/nvidia-installer but it can't do it automatically (nvidia-installer not found) and I can't do it manually. The shell doesn't seems to see the file. It has the execute privileges and
[08:48] <sh4rk89> I'm in the folder of nvidia-installer. Thanks however!
[08:48] <Myrtti> ew.
[08:48] <sleepy_cat> Myrtti: I was trying out this http://news.softpedia.com/news/Installing-Ubuntu-9-04-039-s-New-Notifications-in-Ubuntu-8-10-105221.shtml but here in step2 i got stuk up in autogen.sh because libnotify is 0.4.5 reqd and i have 0.4.4
[08:48] <Myrtti> sleepy_cat: why do you want the notify-osd though?
[08:49] <ActionParsnip> sh4rk89: you dont extract it, its a .run file, you mark it as executable and then launch it
[08:49] <ActionParsnip> sh4rk89: where have you read to extract it?
[08:49] <sleepy_cat> Myrtti: because i liked it :)
[08:49] <ActionParsnip> sh4rk89: if you have pkg2.run  then its a binary
[08:50] <sleepy_cat> basically its the only thing i liked about ubuntu 9.08 and in a couple of months i will get Ubuntu 9.10 so... will install that instead.. temporarily i am using this since i totally liked it
[08:50] <sleepy_cat> 9.04*
[08:50] <rww> sh4rk89: so just to double-check here... you're trying to get help with installing drivers you got from NVIDIA's website with a 32-bit userland and a 64-bit kernel that you compiled yourself?
[08:50] <Myrtti> sleepy_cat: right. good luck in your ventures.
[08:50] <sh4rk89> rww:yes
[08:50] <Guest46525> andrew
[08:51] <sh4rk89> ActionPasnip: I let the program extract itself automatically and it say "nvidia-installer not found" so I try to extract it manually and execute nvidia-installer manually but nothing is changed!
[08:51] <rww> wow
[08:51] <sleepy_cat> Myrtti: i need help in my venture so i asked in the comm
[08:53] <pisse> ActionParsnip: Do you know which package it is? xorg-driver-fglrx?
[08:54] <ActionParsnip> sh4rk89: are you running 64it or 32bit?
[08:54] <ActionParsnip> pisse: dpgk -l | grep ati    will give clues
[08:54] <om26er> ActionParsnip: unetbootin gives the following options default, install, command line install, expert install, command line expert
[08:54] <heatxsink> hello all does anyone in here know how to setup ubuntu server so that when a user logs in for the first time they have to reset their password?
[08:54] <ActionParsnip> om26er: install sounds good if you want to install the OS? Depends what you want to do
[08:54] <Flannel> om26er: and what do you want to have installed?
[08:55] <sh4rk89> I've a 64bit recompiled kernel (with 32bit emulation support)....my userspace is 32bit, but the driver i'm trying to install is 64 bit!
[08:55] <om26er> ActionParsnip: just the ubuntu base install
[08:55] <Flannel> om26er: No GUI?
[08:55] <rww> heatxsink: for an individual user, you'd do passwd -e usernamehere.  So i need to install it manually
[08:55] <om26er> Flannel: yes no gui
[08:55] <pisse> ActionParsnip: xserver-xorg-video-ati then :)
[08:55] <ActionParsnip> sh4rk89: run that from ~ in a terminal
[08:55] <Flannel> om26er: Then you want "command line install"
[08:55] <pisse> ActionParsnip: --purge on this?
[08:56] <om26er> Flannel: will it require internel
[08:56] <om26er> ?
[08:56] <ActionParsnip> sh4rk89: then run: chmod +x ~/Linux-x86_64/185.18.14/NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-185.18.14-pkg2.run
[08:56] <sh4rk89> ActionParsnip: are you listen to me?
[08:56] <sh4rk89> I've done ALL this step
[08:56] <Flannel> om26er: Not sure.  I'm not familiar with unetbootin
[08:57] <ActionParsnip> sh4rk89: then it will work. At no point are you to extract the file, its not a step in any guide i can find
[08:57] <om26er> Flannel: actually am talking abt ubuntu alternate
[08:57] <sh4rk89> download the 64bit driver, chmod +x ..., run it in a console with gdm stopped with super user privilege
[08:57] <Flannel> om26er: ah.  No, it won't.
[08:57] <rww> ActionParsnip: to be fair, his system is a hybrid mess of architectures. I wouldn't be surprised if that was the problem.
[08:57] <wizzo50> Hi
[08:57] <ActionParsnip> sh4rk89: yes in console logon
[08:57] <ActionParsnip> rww: possibly
[08:58] <om26er> Flannel: ubuntu installer main menu
[08:58] <sh4rk89> ActionParsnip: ok, thanks however