[00:23] <Lord_Set2> Hello
[00:30] <bigjools> hi
[01:03] <Lord_Set> How are things going bihjools?
[01:20] <bigjools> busy busy busy
[01:22] <Lord_Set> Any update on the MAAS issue with enlistment? Or do you have an eta?
[01:22] <bigjools> I'm in the middle of a fix
[01:22] <bigjools> just testing something out
[01:22] <Lord_Set> Awesome you rock
[01:22] <Lord_Set> If you want me to do some testing as well let me know
[01:30] <bigjools> yup
[01:55] <bigjools> Lord_Set: try this package https://launchpad.net/~maas-maintainers/+archive/experimental/+build/5800532
[01:55] <bigjools> it's got a change that's not landed in trunk yet so is highly experimental but seems to work for me locally
[02:09] <mwhudson> if i was to try to set up a MAAS that had a bunch of real arm server nodes and virtual machines enlisted, could i make that work?
[02:09] <mwhudson> or would i just go insane and fall into the sea?
[02:10] <bigjools> mwhudson: no reason why it won't work
[02:10] <mwhudson> cool
[02:10] <bigjools> there's a section in the docs for setting up VMs
[02:10] <mwhudson> it was more the highly heterogeneous nature that worried me
[02:11] <bigjools> maas doesn't care what it is
[02:11] <bigjools> it's an equal opportunities provisioner
[02:11] <mwhudson> :)
[02:11] <Lord_Set> Bigjools: How much testing have you done with ARM machines such as Raspberry Pi? Or some of it's more powerful cousins out there?
[02:12] <mwhudson> i've run it on highbank before now
[02:12] <bigjools> well there just happens to be the right man here :)
[02:12] <mwhudson> Lord_Set: you need remote, well, management of some kind
[02:13] <mwhudson> i guess you could have rpi and a pdu
[02:13] <Lord_Set> The team here came up with a great concept we want to build using arm machines for super high density... like 30+ machines per 2U of space.
[02:13] <mwhudson> Lord_Set: where is "here"?
[02:13] <Lord_Set> I am the lead network and systems engineer of a few "connected" startups.
[02:14] <Lord_Set> Same owner and CEO/CIO started a bunch of companies that each complement each other infrastructure wise.
[02:15] <Lord_Set> We are using Ubuntu Server, MAAS, and Juju as the core of our infrastructure for deployment over geographically disjoint locations.
[02:16] <Lord_Set> We are pushing a handful of our services and platform live this week.
[02:18] <mwhudson> cool :)
[02:19] <mwhudson> have you seen hp's moonshot?
[05:37] <jtv> bigjools: I didn't notice earlier because my connection to the board was broken, but you're doing "Hook power_types registry to rpc call" while I'm doing "Registry for power types."
[05:37] <bigjools> jtv: argh
[05:38] <jtv> I expect quite a bit of overlap.
[05:38] <bigjools> I am doing that too
[05:38] <bigjools> currently fighting tests
[05:38] <bigjools> registry bit is easy
[05:38] <bigjools> but I am having trouble stopping the test data leaking out of the test in the singletons
[05:38] <jtv> The way I did it, JSON_POWER_TYPE_PARAMETERS contained only the fields.
[05:39] <jtv> One thing we can always do is start out by patching each registry to contain a copy of its original contents.
[05:40] <bigjools> that's what I am doing
[05:40] <bigjools> hang on let me show you a diff
[05:40] <bigjools> jtv: https://code.launchpad.net/~julian-edwards/maas/power-registry/+merge/210343
[05:42] <bigjools> jtv: the Mocks added in the tests leak out so I am not restoring state properly
[05:42] <bigjools> I can see why
[05:42] <bigjools> just need to fix it and then it's done.  how far did you get?
[05:44] <jtv> Wrote and initialised the registry, pared down JSON_POWER_TYPE_PARAMETERS to list just the fields, made the RPC function compose its answer based on the registry, added a module of functions-to-patch-out-RPC-calls, and was fixing up tests because the global data structure that the MAASServerTestCase patch depended on no longer existed.
[05:45] <bigjools> mine is done
[05:45] <bigjools> ummm
[05:45] <bigjools> I didn't remove or change JSON_POWER_TYPE_PARAMETERS
[05:45] <bigjools> it can stay as it is, surely?
[05:46] <jtv> Can, but probably shouldn't.
[05:46] <bigjools> why?
[05:47] <jtv> I didn't find any good place to put the whole thing — it was too much for the driver's __init__.py, even though it's really just another "built-in" list; and power_schema.py should be about the JSON schema, not the core definition of built-in power types.
[05:48] <jtv> So I figured power_schema.py should know the fields, but the names/descriptions belonged in a "builtin_power_types" list in driver.
[05:48] <bigjools> let's move it in a separate branch - since mine is done and working shall we use it and then yours can be a bout moving the struct around?
[05:48] <jtv> Sure.  I'm already doing part of it in a separate branch.
[05:48] <jtv> By the way, can't you just use self.patch to override the registry during testing?
[05:48] <bigjools> ok feel free to review that MP
[05:48] <bigjools> no,  because it's a global
[05:49] <bigjools> you have to modify its content
[05:49] <bigjools> not its reference
[05:49] <jtv> Yes, but patching it would let you do either, right?
[05:49] <jtv> "Replace with a copy, and restore after the test."
[05:50] <bigjools> it didn't work with patch
[05:50] <bigjools> that's all I know
[05:50] <bigjools> and I thnk it's because the registry classes keep a reference to the old object
[05:51] <bigjools> and patch just replaces the reference with a new one but doesn't help with things that already took a reference
[05:51] <jtv> Right, I was thinking more along the lines of patching the classes.
[05:51] <bigjools> you can't do that
[05:51] <bigjools> they don't have anything to patch
[05:51] <jtv> Yes you can.  Python.  :)
[05:51] <bigjools> you have to patch the global
[05:52] <jtv> Yes, but what if you replaced the double "global _registry" with a single class variable?
[05:53] <bigjools> just so we can use patch?
[05:53] <bigjools> not really worth it IMO
[05:53] <jtv> OK
[05:53] <bigjools> I mean, feel free to disagree :)
[05:53] <jtv> Don't want to slow this down with bikeshedding.
[05:54] <bigjools> good man
[05:54] <jtv> Lies.
[05:54] <jtv> One thing that bothered me a bit about the Registry class is that entries are not keyed on names.
[05:57] <jtv> It's probably nothing, but I do wonder if anything could go wrong with poorly written drivers, e.g. ones that might re-register new versions of what was meant to be the same object on every call or something.
[05:58] <bigjools> hopefully that will be weeded out in tests
[06:00] <jtv> It's the sort of thing that's hard to test well though.  And on the other end, I guess one thing we'll be doing a lot is look up items by name.
[06:00] <jtv> So a dict keyed on name would seem to make sense.
[06:02] <bigjools> well the registries are just lists
[06:02] <bigjools> I don;t mind making them dicts
[06:03] <jtv> I think we'd find it more natural in the end.
[06:03] <bigjools> ok let's do a separate change for that
[06:03] <jtv> OK.
[06:03] <jtv> I'm reviewing your branch.
[06:03] <bigjools> cheers
[06:04] <jtv> There's something in TestRegistry.setUp that I don't understand: how does _registry.update(...) delete items that have been added during tests?
[06:04] <jtv> Ah, I see now.
[06:05] <bigjools> it turns out using Mock as a dummy resource in the registries was a great thing - it weeded out leakage
[06:05] <jtv> It's because the tests never actually add any keys to that dict.
[06:05] <bigjools> Mock can't be serialised in the rpc
[06:05] <jtv> Ah good.
[06:05] <bigjools> argh let me fix that
[06:05] <bigjools> just needs a clear() first
[06:05] <jtv> That'd do it.
[06:05] <jtv> Also, may I recommend dict.copy() or perhaps even deepcopy()?
[06:06] <jtv> Because items() no longer returns a list in python 3.
[06:06]  * jtv watches diff update
[06:06] <bigjools> pushed
[06:06] <bigjools> oh
[06:06] <bigjools> ok I'll change it again...
[06:06] <bigjools> deepcopy is needed I think
[06:06] <bigjools> mmm or is it
[06:07] <jtv> Would be more thorough.
[06:07] <jtv> And this is not the test-case base class or anything, so no need to worry about the added cost.
[06:07] <bigjools> pushed again with a copy(), it will be enough just to keep a reference
[06:08] <jtv> Come on, Launchpad, it's been seconds!  Where is my update?
[06:08] <jtv> Ah, there it is.
[06:08] <bigjools> shame not many people get to see the longpoll
[06:08] <jtv> With the added clear() in tearDown, it's finally worth having a tearDown in the first place.  :)
[06:09] <bigjools> aaye
[06:09] <bigjools> tests all pass anyway :)
[06:09] <jtv> I mean, compared to just adding a cleanup in setUp.
[06:10] <jtv> Approved with comments.  :-P
[06:10] <bigjools> yes
[06:10] <bigjools> naturally
[06:10] <bigjools> jtv: what is wrong with my commit message!
[06:11] <jtv> !?  Just now I saw the green link with "Set a commit message."
 How far out would a feature of MAAS to be able set static dhcp leases?
[06:15] <bigjools> Lord_Set: it already has that
[06:16] <Lord_Set> Really? It is a CLI function or only possible by manually adding servers?
[06:17] <bigjools> as soon as maas sees the lease, it writes a host{} map to the config
[06:17] <jtv> You can't control the leases though.
[06:17] <Lord_Set> Hmm interesting. Ive had leases drop more than once and IPs change on me.
[06:17] <jtv> Except perhaps by editing the config...  I don't recall whether we have proper support for that.
[06:17] <jtv> IPs should normally only change if either:
[06:17] <jtv> 1. You run out of addresses in the DHCP range, or
[06:17] <Lord_Set> What is the default lease time?
[06:18] <jtv> 2. The second DHCP request looks like it comes from a different machine.
[06:18] <jtv> The leases last forever.
[06:18] <Lord_Set> Interesting. Once I redeploy MAAS after the current issues have been fixed I will do some in depth testing with it.
[06:27] <bigjools> jtv: can you remember where the simplestreams index lives?
[06:29] <jtv> bigjools: not off the top of my head, no.
[06:29]  * jtv digs in scripts
[06:30] <bigjools> I see it
[06:30] <jtv> OK
[06:31] <bigjools> thanks, you reminded me it's in mie
[06:33] <bigjools> jtv: BootImage has a have_image() which is only called from tests AFAICS
[06:34] <jtv> Yup, looks like.
[06:35] <bigjools> I'm adding label to the BootImage model
[06:41] <bigjools> also I would love it if we could fix the "ctrl-c only pretends to stop tests" thing :(
[06:56] <lifeless> jtv: addCleanup is way better than teardown, if your test classes have it :>
[06:56] <jtv> Hi lifeless.  Yes, but it gets a bit uglier with multiple consecutive statements.
[06:58] <lifeless> jtv: how so?
[07:00] <jtv> If you need to execute multiple consecutive statements in the cleanup, you must either define a function anyway (reducing the advantage over writing a tearDown) or add them separately and worry about the ordering.
[07:02] <lifeless> jtv: by ordering, you mean the LIFO nature ?
[07:03] <jtv> Yes.
[07:06] <lifeless> interesting feedback
[07:07] <lifeless> most folk I know just addCleanup adjacent or before the thing that needs cleanup
[07:07] <lifeless> so its very contextual and needs little thought
[07:08] <bigjools> lifeless: : it's normally fine indeed, but gets unwieldy if you start needing more than a basic lambda
[07:09] <lifeless> bigjools: can you link me an example of such?
[07:09] <bigjools> I can't
[07:10] <lifeless> heh, np - I'm just interested in seeing places it falls down (so I can consider how to make it better)
[07:10] <bigjools> but one sec
[07:11] <bigjools> lifeless: https://code.launchpad.net/~julian-edwards/maas/power-registry/+merge/210343 line 61 of the diff
[07:12] <jtv> I was going to say "use addCleanup instead," and then we found that it needed an additional statement.
[07:13] <bigjools> exachary
[07:15] <lifeless> bigjools: isn't that just
[07:16] <lifeless> self.addCleanup(_registry.update, self.saved_registry)
[07:16] <lifeless> self.addCleanup(_registry.clear)
[07:16] <lifeless> ?
[07:16] <lifeless> given that tearDown may fail to run at all...
[07:16] <bigjools> yes but as I said it's unwieldy
[07:16] <bigjools> and depends on pop ordering, so reads weirder!
[07:17] <bigjools> if I could add everything in a single call it would look nicer
[07:17] <lifeless> a list in FILO order it would reverse for you ?
[07:18] <bigjools> mebbe, yeah.  a list of calls
[07:18] <bigjools> when does tearDown fail to run?
[07:19] <lifeless> if setUp fails for any reason
[07:20] <lifeless> (and also tearDown doesn't run the remaineder if part of tearDown fails)
[07:29] <lifeless> so, def addCleanups(self, cleanups_list): for cleanup, in reversed(cleanups_list): self.addCleanup(cleanup etc
[07:30] <jtv> Would the list really be easier to read than a function though?
[07:30] <jtv> Simple enough if the calls take no arguments, but otherwise...
[07:30] <lifeless> jtv: it would have the property of running every element in it
[07:30] <lifeless> jtv: which is equivalent to deeply nested try:finally: in a function
[07:31] <lifeless> jtv: which you need for correctness in most end of test code, but is often skipped
[07:32] <bigjools> lifeless: I would need to think about what reads the clearest I think
[07:33] <bigjools> jtv: dammit, will need to implement tftp path changes for the boot images already because of tests, those damn tests....!
[07:33]  * bigjools eats
[08:14] <jtv> Does it make sense to hook the boot-images registry to RPC at this stage?  Given that we already have an API for this, I mean.
[08:23] <jtv> Wouldn't it make more sense to slip the driver API in underneath the existing metadataserver API?
[08:37] <Lord_Set> What is the status of the current MAAS build?
[08:39] <bigjools> it ought to work
[08:39] <Lord_Set> Awesome
[08:40] <Lord_Set> Will give it a try in my test racks here
[08:40] <bigjools> jtv: I am only putting the "label" part in the path
[08:42] <Lord_Set> Have you guys seen an issue where trusty will sometimes freeze during boot while mounting the swap?
[08:42] <Lord_Set> It randomly happens on all my servers
[09:13] <bigjools> no, you need to ask in #ubuntu-server about that
[09:52] <melmoth> hola maas people ! can someone confirm that /var/log/maas/rsyslog/* logs fils are only filled when the nodes are being installed. And untouched after installation ?
[09:52] <melmoth> (well, confirm or correct :-) )
[11:53] <rbasak> melmoth: AIUI, after installation you're in control via whatever stack you have deployed. Eg. use the rsyslog charm.
[11:53] <rbasak> melmoth: at that point you're in juju territory really, rather than maas.
[11:53] <melmoth> ok, the customer is using rsyslog with rsyslog-forxarder charm
[11:53] <rbasak> (same with your question the other day about relations)
[11:54] <melmoth> he just asked confirmation those file are only generated during installation, now i can confirm.Thanks
[11:54] <melmoth> rbasak the relation issue is escalated, there s is something obviously broken and i dont undertand what
[11:54] <rbasak> Well, that's to the best of my knowledge. I'm not really an expert in this area.
[18:52] <tych0> hi bigjools, did you get a chance to look at that lxc power thing yesterday?
[18:56] <kentb> is /etc/maas/preseeds/enlist the place to override and enlisting / commissioning node from using archive.ubuntu.com during the enlist/commission phase?  I'd like to use my local mirror instead.
[22:24] <bigjools> tych0: sorry no I got sidetracked
[22:24] <tych0> bigjools: no worries
[22:25] <bigjools> and why on earth is kentb trying to hack preseeds to set the archive proxy
[22:25] <bigjools> tych0: looking now
[22:27] <tych0> because he wants to use his local mirror instaed :-)
[22:27] <bigjools> well there is a setting for this in the config page
[22:28] <bigjools> tych0: ok so this is your change? http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~tycho-s/maas/lxc-power/revision/2040#etc/maas/templates/power/lxc.template
[22:28] <tych0> bigjools: yeah
[22:29] <tych0> well, there are a few
[22:29] <tych0> that whole branch's diff
[22:29] <bigjools> well the template
[22:29] <bigjools> what was getting quoted?
[22:29] <tych0> {{preseed}}
[22:29] <tych0> ends up as
[22:29] <tych0> '#cloud-config ...'
[22:29] <tych0> instead of just #cloud-config
[22:29] <bigjools> it's probably the code
[22:30] <bigjools> tempita won;t do that
[22:30] <tych0> oh
[22:30] <bigjools> it might be using a repr somewhere perhaps
[22:30] <tych0> so you think whatever get_preseed returns is bad?
[22:30] <tych0> ah
[22:30] <tych0> or that
[22:30] <bigjools> it's possible
[22:30] <bigjools> stick a breakpoint in
[22:30] <tych0> i'm not calling repr anywhere
[22:31] <bigjools> or hack some code to write its contents to a /tmp/ file
[22:31] <tych0> well, the other problem is that the maas dev environment didn't work
[22:31] <tych0> i got some big logs
[22:31] <bigjools> yay
[22:31] <bigjools> it works fine here, what are you doing? :)
[22:31] <tych0> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7050909/
[22:31] <tych0> and stuff when i ran it
[22:31] <tych0> just via 'make run'
[22:32] <bigjools> did you make syncdb?
[22:32] <tych0> i can't remember, so probably not
[22:32] <bigjools> also, write a test to check your preseed
[22:32] <bigjools> well, template output
[22:32] <tych0> yeah, i just wanted to get it to work first :-)
[22:32] <bigjools> tsk
[22:32] <bigjools> tests first
[22:33] <bigjools> honestly, it's quicker if you write tests as you write the code
[22:33] <tych0> fair enough
[22:33] <bigjools> TDD :)
[22:34] <tych0> yeah, i mostly just have used languages with compilers in the past
[22:34] <tych0> i know that makes me a heretic
[22:34]  * tych0 ducks
[22:34] <tych0> anyway, i'm off for a quick break before sprint dinner
[22:35] <tych0> i promise i will write some tests before i make an MP :-)
[22:35] <bigjools> compilers can deal with tests too :)
[22:36]  * bigjools did C++ for more years than I care to recall
[22:42] <roaksoax_> bigjools: howdy! It is not possible to specify user data to the MAASDataSource to execute custome stuff post install..is it?
[22:42] <bigjools> no idea off hand
[22:43] <bigjools> that's a cloud-init function isn;t it?
[22:43] <roaksoax_> bigjools: yes and now. Cloud-init gets user-data from the MAAS data source and executes. But if I wanted to execute custom stuff, we really can't
[22:43] <bigjools> oh so you want to put more stuff in?
[22:44] <roaksoax_> bigjools: yep
[22:44] <bigjools> ok I don;t know without looking
[22:44] <bigjools> let me check quickly
[22:44] <roaksoax_> cool, thjanks!
[22:45] <bigjools> I *thought* that this was all passed through on the API request to start a machine
[22:45] <bigjools> it's what juju does
[22:46] <bigjools> yeah it's a parametert user_data for Node.start()
[22:46] <roaksoax_> bigjools: cool, so I can technically tell maas to do it via the api
[22:47] <bigjools> yes just not in the UI
[22:47] <bigjools> web UI
[22:49] <roaksoax_> bigjools: yeah, and has to be base64
[22:49] <roaksoax_> ok cool thanks!
[22:49] <bigjools> correct


[09:13] <bluesceada> The easiest to get this fix in Ubuntu LTS 22.04 is to find a more recent kernel ppa myself, I guess? https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/drm/amd/-/issues/1871
[09:15] <bluesceada> seems these "hwe" kernels are not updated anymore to be more recent than the standard kernels?
[18:22] <luis220413> bluesceada: Sorry for the slow response, I have been working on Ubuntu security. In the 4 previous Ubuntu LTS releases, the kernel has only been upgraded in the .2 point release, that comes in February of the year after the LTS release.


[03:26] <newubuntu10_04us> I just installed Ubuntu for the first time and I'm trying to figure out a few things. I hope this is the place to com to find patient people that have answers...:) The first thing I'm trying to do is run a program SpyNoMore from http://spynomore.com and I can't seem to get it to install. I'm starting there, because my computer had a VERY stubborn virus that required removing the partitions from the fixed disk...so
[03:35] <duanedesign> hello newubuntu10_04us
[03:36] <duanedesign> newubuntu10_04us: looks like that application is Windows only
[03:38] <duanedesign> clamAV and Avast are two popular anti-virus apps for Linux
[03:45] <newubuntu10_04us> duanedesign: Thank you...that is pretty much what I was afraid of.
[04:11] <nUboon2Age> newubuntu10_04us: Actual viruses are not something to fret about in Linux, but as to other malware that could potentially be a problem here's a simple approach,  How to block internet advertisements, banners and spyware in Linux: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=110440, and http://linuxpoison.blogspot.com/2010/01/block-ads-malware-spyware-using-hosts.html
[04:19] <LOLWTF> FUCK
[04:19] <LOLWTF> so
[04:20] <zkriesse> LOLWTF: I'm sorry do you wish to be kicked?
[04:20] <LOLWTF> i got this dns caching proxy that i installed  from src and  i need to  start it with one bash command and its pissing me  off
[04:20] <LOLWTF> cos
[04:20] <LOLWTF> i cant get  it running
[04:21] <LOLWTF> i tried adding the command  to /etc/rc.local  but that doesnt help
[04:21] <LOLWTF> and then
[04:21] <LOLWTF> i  tried  creating a bash script and then  doing  update-rc.d pdnsd.sh defaults but that didnt  help either
[04:21] <LOLWTF> wtffffffff do i do now.
[05:17] <OCboy> hello every1
[05:17] <OCboy> any1 use shell.cjb.net
[05:17] <OCboy> Huh .. ?????
[05:19] <collinp> Hmm?
[05:19] <collinp> I doubt that any of us have personal experience with the provider that you mentioned, but you can state your issue and we'll try to help to the best of our abilities.
[05:20] <OCboy> i have problem with conf eggdrop
[05:20] <collinp> Eggdrop has their own support channels, AFAIK.
[05:21] <collinp> Although I do have experience with eggdrops.
[05:21] <OCboy> they have no support channel
[05:21] <collinp> Not on freenode, no. Their official support channel is on UnderNet.
[05:21] <OCboy> Thank ÿou Verÿ Much
[05:24] <OCboy> do u know the name of it pls
[05:35] <LOLWTF> eggdrop sucks
[05:35] <LOLWTF> just use irssi
[05:35] <LOLWTF> kthanks.
[05:51] <kermiac> Good Afternoon people. There will be a short "How to Triage Bugs" session in #ubuntu-au in 10 minutes. Please feel free to join in the fun
[05:53] <dogwalker> I'm about to install the 64-Bit Ubuntu 10.04 on an AMD-64 Based CPU, and I wonder if anyone knows if Javascript is installed by default.
[05:54] <tenach> dogwalker, Java or Javascript?
[05:54] <tenach> From what I understand, you don't install javascript, as it's handled by a web browser.
[05:55] <dogwalker> Javascript, tenach, I need it to be supported for my bank's Web interface.
[05:55] <tenach> By default Firefox is installed with javascript enabled.
[05:55] <tenach> When you install Ubuntu
[05:55] <dogwalker> Thank you very much for your help.
[05:55] <tenach> No problem! :)
[05:55] <tenach> If you have any more questions, just ask :D
[05:56] <tenach> If I can't help, someone else is bound to be able to.
[05:56] <dogwalker> I've got a problem with my Windows XP and the Nvidia GT 8500 card, and it appears to be "un-fixable".
[05:56] <tenach> What sort of problem?
[05:57] <dogwalker> So I'll slave the windows Disk to the Ubuntu install (on separate hard disk) and copy the files off.
[05:57] <dogwalker> Fatal Error/BSOD.
[05:58] <dogwalker> and I've already tried re-loading the driver from Nvidia
[05:58] <dogwalker> <no resolution>.
[05:58] <kermiac> holstein: I noticed you're in the BugSquad mentorship program mate, feel free to come & join in on the session in #ubuntu-au. It starts in a couple of minutes
[05:58] <dogwalker> So before the whole works becomes un-readable...
[05:58] <dogwalker> I'll copy the files over, and call it "Done"
[05:59] <dogwalker> I can't think of anything Linux won't do, once I find applications to install.
[06:00] <holstein> kermiac: thanks
[06:01] <tenach> Sounds about like how I moved to Linux/Ubuntu, dogwalker.  The version of XP that was installed on my computer decided to call itself invalid, so instead of arguing with the tech support guys again, I just moved over to here.
[07:05] <zkriesse> duanedesign: ping
[08:19] <kermiac> thanks for coming to the session guys :) -- collinp, nUboon2Age, holstein
[08:31] <nUboon2Age> kermiac: thanks for doing the class. :D
[10:50] <duanedesign> 'lo all
[13:07] <kermiac> For anyone interest, the logs for todays "How to Triage" class in #ubuntu-au are available at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AustralianTeam/Projects/BugJams/HowToTriageClass2010July24
[14:40] <Scotsman> where are the bass and treble controls on the new ubuntu? im lost
[14:41] <stlsaint> ??
[14:42] <Scotsman> thats whats above my head
[14:43] <stlsaint> aye
[14:44] <Scotsman> what is this backend process sucking all the cpu for?
[14:44] <pedro3005> what is the name of the process?
[14:44] <Scotsman> BACKEND
[14:45] <stlsaint> who where is the op?
[14:45] <Scotsman> the wee green LED
[14:46] <stlsaint> i dont know what your talking about?!
[14:47] <Scotsman> *Sigh*
[14:47] <stlsaint> Scotsman: i only see you asking questions?! Who are you trying to help?
[14:47] <pedro3005> I think he's asking for help
[14:47] <stlsaint> or what is your issue
[14:47] <Scotsman> lol
[14:48] <Scotsman> im speechless
[14:48] <stlsaint> :|
[14:48] <stlsaint> WTF is bass and treble controls!?!?
[14:50] <pedro3005> I think he's talking about sound
[14:50] <pedro3005> you know, sound mixing
[14:50] <stlsaint> meh, whatever
[14:53] <duanedesign> have you all ever tried the pulse audio equalizer
[14:56] <stlsaint> duanedesign: nope
[14:58] <philinux> I have base and treble on my woofer
[14:58] <duanedesign> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1308838
[14:59] <duanedesign> i used the equalizer in Karmic and really liked it
[21:18] <AJH1011> Hello - torrents used to open automatically in Transmission but suddenly they do not - how do i restore it please?
[21:19] <dinosaur> AJH1011, you could try right clicking the file, and going to properties, then going to the open with tab, and then put the marker on transmission
[21:19] <paultag> dinosaur, c'mon man
[21:19] <paultag> dinosaur, you can stay in Whube, but c'mon
[21:19] <dinosaur> lol okay
[21:20] <dinosaur> no
[21:47] <paultag> dinosaur, here as well, please.
[21:48] <paultag> good.
[21:49] <paultag> dinosaur.
[21:49] <paultag> dinosaur, Montel, this is getting annoying
[21:50] <dinosaur> stop calling me that, ive told you im not him.
[21:50] <dinosaur> youre being very rude.
[21:50] <paultag> dinosaur, I can pull logs and make this a big deal, but I'd rather you leave on good terms rather then *another* k-line
[21:51] <paultag> dinosaur, were you on last night as "LOLWTF" ?
[21:51] <dinosaur> anybody can open up nano and edit some logs. ive come in here to help, now can you please leave me alone.
[21:51] <aveilleux> dinosaur, the logs of this room are public
[21:52] <paultag> dinosaur, were you on last night as "LOLWTF" ?
[21:52] <dinosaur> i know that.
[21:52] <aveilleux> dinosaur, then why are you going on about editing nano?
[21:52] <paultag> dinosaur, Your IPs match, after all. So I'll assume yes. Please leave, Montel
[21:53] <paultag> aveilleux, Let dinosaur leave with his head in the air and feeling like he showed us
[21:53] <paultag> c'mon Montel, be big and bad
[21:53] <dinosaur> paultag, stop highlighting me or im going to put you on  ignore.
[21:54] <aveilleux> dinosaur: highlight :D
[21:54] <paultag> thank you aveilleux for trying to help
[21:54] <paultag> He is an unwelcome member of the community
[21:55] <aveilleux> paultag: Always here to help
[21:56] <paultag> aveilleux, and I thank you for it! :)
[21:58] <stlsaint> paultag: LOL
[21:59] <paultag> stlsaint, Yeah, becoming absurd. I was hoping he would just leave when he saw I did not care about it
[21:59] <paultag> stlsaint, clearly, not.
[21:59] <paultag> It's a shame he's not on 4chan, I have a feeling he'd be a great troll.
[21:59] <paultag> Oh well.
[22:00] <paultag> Sorry for that bump, team.
[22:00] <IdleOne> paultag: you have a guest in #ubuntu-irc , wanting to discuss a ban
[22:00] <paultag> Oh joy
[22:00] <aveilleux> paultag: Have fun!
[22:01] <nhandler> paultag: Feel free to point him to #ubuntu-beginners-council
[22:01] <paultag> nhandler, of course, thanks :)
[22:01] <IdleOne> paultag: sorry, but had to call you
[22:01] <paultag> IdleOne, it's quite alright
[22:01] <paultag> IdleOne, I'm more then happy to help explain what's going on, it's no trouble


[02:15] <guiverc> @Leokolb, FYI a new casper `1.468` is being used; I won't wipe the checklist as I think it looks better populated with entries if people look at beta-release time.. we'll just update as per normal
 ok tks (re @lubuntu_bot: (irc) <guiverc> @Leokolb, FYI a new casper `1.468` is being used; I won't wipe the checklist as I think it looks better populated with entries if people look at beta-release time.. we'll just update as per normal)
[09:52] <kc2bez[m]> Yes! The support and donate buttons work again in the installer.
 good news! @kc2bez
[09:59] <guiverc> :)
[22:16] <Eickmeyer> @Leokolb, teward, guiverc, kc2bez[m]: Why on earth do we care about btrfs partitioning?
 because some people actually *use* BTRFS custom partitioning?
 Eickmeyer: just because it's not a default doesn't mean we shouldn't test.  BTRFS is something that *does* get brought up by people a lot
[22:17] <guiverc> I don't, Simon or Walter asked for its inclusion, but I do see 5-8 support issues per annum on it..
[22:17] <Eickmeyer> I'd consider it an unsupported usecase.
[22:17] <Eickmeyer> Especially considering *we* can't resolve the bug.
 Eickmeyer: did you wake up on the wrong side of the bed today?  "We" may not be able to resolve the bug but that doesn't mean it shouldn't have been filed
[22:19] <Eickmeyer> Then it needs to be filed upstream as well.  I'm just perplexed.
[22:19] <kc2bez> It is a new issue. BTRFS has always worked in the past.
[22:20] <kc2bez> We haven't changed versions of Calamares.
[22:20] <teward> perplexed doesn't mean you need a hostile tone.  and bTRFS HAS always worked in the past so
[22:20] <teward> Eickmeyer: your tone is generally aggressive or hostile right now with how you're wording stuff, so go take a breather.
[22:20] <kc2bez> I am wondering if we don't need a no change rebuild against kpmcore which has changed.
[22:21] <Eickmeyer> kc2bez: It's worth a shot.


 any ubuntu guru around
[01:29] <bazhang> oh yeah
[01:55] <Pici> ..
[02:04] <h00k> yeah.
[03:29] <IdleOne> !away > sam113101_afk
[03:31] <lotuspsychje> hello, can i report a spam query
[03:32] <IdleOne> sure
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[03:32] <lotuspsychje> tnx
 they should probably just release 1 version every year on "Ubuntu Day" with a full 12 year support with every other year being LTS
[06:44] <bazhang> SLTS
[06:45] <bazhang> SuperLTS
[06:48] <IdleOne> ah, the windows support model
[06:49] <IdleOne> after 12 years they could add an extra SuperEliteLTS 8 years
[06:50] <bazhang> hehe
[07:19] <Vivek> I would like to join #ubuntu-beginners-dev, I am getting a message that the channel is full. Please help.
[07:45] <Vivek> ubottu: Ok,
[07:46] <Vivek> I am a reputed member of the FreeNode community, so allowing me in should not be a problem.
[07:47] <Flannel> Vivek: From what I can tell, that channel doesn't exist anymore, which is why you can't get it.
[07:48] <Flannel> (it technically does exist, but it's been set up to not allow anyone in, and to forward everyone who joins to #ubuntu)
[08:45] <Vivek> Flannel: So which is the channel for beginner Ubuntu Developers ?
[08:45] <Flannel> Vivek: probably #ubuntu-devel
[18:32] <ikonia> is someone trolling me elsewhere asking people to just start asking me random questions in #ubuntu or offer me fixes for problems I'm not having ?
[18:33] <IdleOne> I haven't seen anything
[18:33] <bazhang> shauntablet seems familiar
[18:33] <ikonia> seems like an honest mistake
[18:34] <bazhang> Ignore elitest does not
[18:34] <ikonia> no, it doesn't
[18:34] <bazhang> someone else said the very thing
[18:34] <bazhang> or perhaps same with new nick
[18:35] <ikonia> I'd not been followed, once the guy asking for help said "I assume you're not trying to help" - I stopped helping and he can expose his machine on the internet, I don't care
[18:37] <bazhang> it was just an odd comment off the bat, with no real contextual reason for it
[18:38] <ikonia> agreed
[22:36] <ow> Hi, I have some questions/requests/etc.
[22:36] <ow> ASM is currently used to monitor #ubuntu and report issues and stuff
[22:37] <ow> the Floodbots are also used to monitor #ubuntu and report issues and stuff, and sometimes automatically quiet/ban/kick people
[22:37] <ow> The thing is, the Floodbots IIRC only communicate attention via !_ops
[22:38] <ow> ASM has a plugin system available, whereby another monitoring bot can report problems via something like ;plugin <channel> <threat level> <reason>
[22:39] <ikonia> ASM ?
[22:39] <ow> AntiSpamMeta
[22:39] <ikonia> ahh, your bot
[22:39] <ikonia> maybe worth talking to ljl and members of the bot team ?
[22:40] <IdleOne> I think your first step would be to speak with LjL about this
[22:40] <ow> ASM has been (for quite some time) configured to ignore !_ops calls from the floodbots, because (in ASM's case) that is only meant to be used as a user-generated trigger
[22:40] <LjL> why do you think ow would have skipped that first step?
[22:40] <ow> ^ :)
[22:40] <IdleOne> I'm not sure.
[22:41] <k1l> the question is what LjL answered :)
[22:41] <ow> In my communication with LjL, he basically said that 1) the floodbots were long overdue for a complete rewrite; 2) he had his doubts as to whether or not the #ubuntu-ops would trust me, given stuff that happened, and other stuff that was rumored to have happened, 3 or 5 or howevermany years ago
[22:43] <ow> anyways. I'd be up for the task of rewriting the Floodbots, and then turning the reigns completely over to the #ubuntu ops, with the stipulation that the code I write would be GPL'ed, and that they be allowed to use ASM's ;plugin functionality so long as ASM continues to be a thing on Freenode
[22:43] <ow> however, I wouldn't want to undertake that task unless I had some assurance that the #ubuntu ops would be interested in making use of the code once I'm done
[22:44] <ow> i.e. I don't want to spend countless hours doing a rewrite only to have them say "nah we'll stick with what we've got"
[22:44] <IdleOne> My first instinct is to trust LjL, especially when it comes to the floodbots. If LjL says you can be trusted I would accept that. All that said the decision is not mine.
[22:45] <IdleOne> so your next step I think would be to contact the IRCC
[22:46] <LjL> i think the fact ow's bot has been working and reporting issues in many channels for several years now can't go unnoticed
[22:46] <ow> I've said my peace. I'm going to part now and come back in a day or two, and see if there's simply any interest in having me do a rewrite. If there is interest, those interested can handle whatever politics or paperwork the process requires - working with beauracracy is something I'm very much *not* interested in.
[22:47] <IdleOne> LjL: indeed


[01:47] <sabdfl> BradB: welcome home :-)
[01:48] <BradB> thanks :)
[12:17] <sabdfl> so... python question for you guys
[12:17] <sabdfl> anyone around for it?
[12:41] <ddaa> sabdfl: I'm around
[02:52] !alindeman:*! Hi all ... a main rotation server appears to be having some connectivity problems.  It's been pulled from rotation to mitigate any further problems.  Sorry for any inconvenience--thanks for using freenode.
[07:45] <sabdfl> are the debug skins now disabled?
[07:45] <sabdfl> is there a way to get tracebacks back other than the PMDServer?
[07:56] <sabdfl> hey stub
[07:57] <sabdfl> you're up... late?
[07:57] <sabdfl> early?


[00:06] <ahasenack> hm, this looks like a juju bug
[00:06] <ahasenack> context.go:221 worker/uniter: HOOK runtime: panic before malloc heap initialized
[00:06] <ahasenack> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/5916638/


[00:42] <fosco_> hi
[00:42] <genii> !hi
[00:42] <fosco_> is there any way to run apps in fullscreen mode? any keyboard shortcut?
[00:43] <genii> F11 ?
[00:43] <fosco_> wow, so easy?
[00:43] <fosco_> :)
[00:43] <genii> fosco_: At least for Firefox usually
[00:44] <fosco_> i mean any app
[00:48] <tsimpson> you can right-click the window title, advanced -> full screen
[00:48] <fosco_> ok, let me see
[00:49] <tsimpson> alt-f3 to get the menu back up while in full screen
[00:50] <genii> tsimpson: Nice, didn't know that one
[00:53] <fosco_> ok, good enought for me
[00:53] <fosco_> thanks
[00:54] <genii> !helpersnack | tsimpson
[00:54]  * genii runs for his life!
[00:58] <zvacet> how to integrate pacpl in amarok pacpl was installed from synaptic
[01:00] <generaldisarray> hey all, I LOVE kubuntu, however I can't get seem handbrake to work on it, and I like it far better than k9copy, i have the gstreamer plugins installed and all that stuff, and I can rip/encode with k9copy, but when i click "source" on handbrake for it to read the dvd it goes through the whole thing,b ut then right when it finishes reading it just closes, no error message, and nothing is abnormal in the log, any ideas?
[01:05] <generaldisarray> hmmmm
[01:06] <genii> generaldisarray: handbrake is not supplied or supported by us. You may consider taking up your issues with whoever provided the package you used
[01:06] <generaldisarray> oh, i apologize
[01:10] <generaldisarray> well, in that case can anyone help me with k9copy, how come i get these horizontal lines (sorta, they aren't like black lines as much as differences in brightness i suppose) when i use k9copy, i get it both with xvid and x264, even when i compress an 18 minute video to 400mb
[01:40] <iRonH3Ad> hello folks
[01:40] <skimj> Can anyone tell me about the user 'klog' I have it in my /etc/passwd file on my boxes that started with old version of Kubuntu but it's not there on one of my fresh installs. Can I remove that user?
[01:41] <genii> skimj: How old a version?
[01:41] <skimj> Don't remember, I think one of them started at 8.04 or so. All are running 9.10 now.
[01:46] <skimj> genii: Do you know if that  user was for a daemon or something that has been deprecated?
[01:47] <genii> skimj: On my 9.04, 9.10 and 10.04 those users do not exist
[01:48] <daskreech> skimj: Probably a KDE3 user for the klog system
[01:49] <skimj> genii: OK, that confirms what I see with my one fresh install box. I'll backup the passwd file, delete it and see what happens.
[01:49] <skimj> daskreech: yes, I see that user on boxes that originally had KDE3 on them
[01:49] <daskreech> skimj: That would be it
[01:49] <daskreech> If you still run KDE3 then you can keep it around otherwise no real reason to
[01:50] <skimj> No, I'm running current KDE4 so that shouldn't be a problem
[01:50] <skimj> Thanks for the help.
[01:52] <skimj> On a similar note (but not Kubuntu) I have a user "dhcp" on those older boxes but not the newer ones. All of my dhcp files/processes are owned by root. Do you think this is a left-over from times past as well?
[01:53]  * genii feeds daskreech a coffee
[02:18] <ybit> well, it seems that my bug report is invalid :P
[02:18] <ybit> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdepim/+bug/560527
[02:18] <ybit> this was the last message i sent
[02:18] <ybit> I deleted the SMTP account, created a new SMTP account called Gmail, and
[02:18] <ybit> when I attempted to send an email it states that "Transport 'Gmail.com'
[02:18] <ybit> is invalid." That was the name of the previous SMTP account. Also, it
[02:18] <ybit> was the name of the IMAP account, so I deleted and reconfigured it, same
[02:18] <ybit> message. I then restarted X, and I am still presented with that message.
[02:18] <FloodBotK3> ybit: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:19] <ybit> whoops, that should have been a total of about 2-3 lines
[02:19] <ybit> anyway, since it's marked as invalid on launchpad, anyone want to attempt to help me resolve the problem now?
[02:57] <h4x> hey all. quick question. I'm trying to run dkpg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and it's not running,
[03:27] <Bsims> got a question, as a commited amarok 1.4 user will the new 2.3 release drive me nuts?
[04:22] <Bsims> is there a bug with amarok and mp3's bought from amazon?
[04:48] <treltemp> I have a small question, I have a dell laptop and I'm having a slight issue with my touchpad.  If I touch and hold my finger perfectly still, the cursor is moving around slightly
[04:48] <treltemp> there any way to fix that?
[05:48] <dfrey> I get errors about akonadi not starting every time I start KDE.  Is this a common problem?
[05:50] <dfrey> It seems like the app expects MySQL DBs to be setup that I don't have.
[06:04] <Tm_T> dfrey: can you tell me what this command in konsole returns: "grep ServerPath ~/.config/akonadi/akonadiserverrc"
[06:05] <dfrey> Tm_T: /usr/sbin/mysqld-akonadi
[06:05] <dfrey> Tm_T: I think this was installed via backports
[06:06] <Tm_T> so that's correct
[06:08] <dfrey> Tm_T: Do you know where the DB is?  Maybe I can just remove it
[06:09] <Tm_T> it's in mysql
[06:09] <Tm_T> dfrey: but I don't think removing would help, you better get proper error log out
[06:20] <heavybreaker> Hello all
[06:20] <heavybreaker> I have a question
[06:21] <heavybreaker> Is there something wrong with google chrome web browers?
[06:21] <foursixnine> heavybreaker: Drop your question... someone might answer (If they can)
[06:21] <foursixnine> heavybreaker: you're having problems?...
[06:22] <heavybreaker> Yes, after an update  yesterday it seems to max out my CPU and crashes Plasma
[06:23] <heavybreaker> I was wondering if anyone has had the same problem and if theres a way to fix it.
[06:23] <foursixnine> heavybreaker: i'm using chromium, so far i havent seen that behavior.. but, i have problems when i have too many flash-powered-websites open
[06:24] <foursixnine> does that happen when you're browsing a website like that?
[06:25] <heavybreaker> Umm no, it also happened when I was on wiki
[06:25] <heavybreaker> you think it may be a flash problem?
[06:27] <foursixnine> i could hep... but not at all... have you checked the bugtracker (If such thing exists?)
[06:31] <foursixnine> it could hep... but not at all... have you checked the bugtracker (If such thing exists?)
[07:22] <Darth_Psi3V> Hello! Can you help me?  In my kubuntu on laptop works only google, but on desktop all works fine. Where is problem?
[08:31] <thomas___> well i hit ctrl alt f1, then typed sudo killall kdm, and it just restarted x
[08:31] <thomas___> i need to stop it so i can install the newest nvidia drivers
[08:35] <iconmefisto> thomas___: try  sudo /etc/init.d/kdm stop
[09:14] <thomas___> how would i install a .bin file?
[09:15] <thomas___> get this error "./jre-6u19-linux-i586-rpm.bin: 440: rpm: not found
[09:15] <thomas___> "
[09:18] <thomas___> anyone?
[09:19] <Tm_T> thomas___: what you are trying to do?
[09:19] <thomas___> well trying to install java, or does konqurer not support it?
[09:19] <thomas___> used to firefox
[09:20] <Tm_T> thomas___: you don't need to install it that way (:
[09:20] <Tm_T> !jre | thomas___
[09:21] <Tm_T> thomas___: or simply install "kubuntu-restricted-extras" package
[09:24] <iconmefisto> thomas___: karmic 9.10, right?
[09:25] <thomas___> i guess just installed kubuntu 9.10
[09:25] <iconmefisto> ok
[09:49] <vivek> hii i recently upgraded from kde 4.3 to kde 4.4.2... I thought that in kde 4.4.2 there were more desktop activities apart from the normal " desktop and folder thing"... but here on my kde 4.4 I have the same 2 desktop activities
[09:49] <vivek> iconmefisto: how are you...
[09:51] <vivek> iconmefisto:  I thought that in kde 4.4.2 there were more desktop activities apart from the normal " desktop and folder thing"... but here on my kde 4.4 I have the same 2 desktop activities
[10:18] <vivek> hii i recently upgraded from kde 4.3 to kde 4.4.2... I thought that in kde 4.4.2 there were more desktop activities apart from the normal " desktop and folder thing"... but here on my kde 4.4 I have the same 2 desktop activities
[11:15] <Ahmed\> How do i REINSTALL Evolution Mail its not working !
[11:28] <Mac7> `how come that the shutdown button does not work in kubuntu but when I press the on/off button than it works...
[11:55] <Mac7> kkkj
[12:21] <lalalol> can i install nautilus on kubuntu?
[12:45] <gunsofbrixton> hi, is arora going to be the default browser in lucid?
[12:49] <iconmefisto> gunsofbrixton: maybe ask in #ubuntu+1 too?
[12:50] <gunsofbrixton> iconmefisto: will do, tnx
[13:37] <babalu> hello, i'm still trying to make kde more reactive, when i right-click on a file on my desktop, the menu about one second to open, i watched htop when i click, and the process "kdeinit4 plasma-desktop" is taking 30% of CPU when the menu is opening
[13:43] <vlad__> need help in amarok playng problem
[13:45] <larsivi> which feature is it that dims the screen when it get a lot of dark content (i.e full screen console)
[14:31] <vlad__> help pls
[15:15] <xiven1> Hello all
[15:43] <wissem> hi
[16:08] <ravage> hi all. running kubuntu lucid here and i can't start ubuntuone at all. packages are installed as far as i can see.
[16:11] <ravage> ~$ ubuntuone-preferences
[16:11] <ravage> ** Message: secret service operation failed: The name org.freedesktop.secrets was not provided by any .service files
[16:11] <ravage> in case the error is any helpful
[16:20] <wasob> hmm
[16:30] <Isbane> hi where can i find a already compiled ndiswrapper in .deb format
[16:32] <Isbane> any1 around
[16:32] <arch0njw> !ndiswrapper
[16:33] <arch0njw> Isbane: there are two packages:  ndiswrapper-common and ndiswrapper-utils -- do you have those installed?
[16:33] <Isbane> just idk how to compile im a noob i cant connect to ethernet because thats not a option roomates a dick
[16:33] <Isbane> neither r installed
[16:33] <Isbane> is there a auto compiler
[16:34] <arch0njw> not to my knowledge.  but those packages have what you will need in general and you don't need to compile unless you are doing something custom.
[16:34] <arch0njw> checkout that link above.  there's a lot of good info there.
[16:35] <Isbane> i see
[16:35] <Isbane> now with ndis how can i install my wireless adaptors netgear wg111t
[16:39] <arch0njw> Isbane: I am not terribly familiar with the process, but this forum post seems to have a lot of good info in it:  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=258732
[16:41] <Isbane> kk thnx bro
[16:43] <sian> There seems to be a bug in the printer  control software
[16:46] <sian> Printer Configuration - KDE Control Module has a bug.
[16:51] <sian> which program does the printer configuration program run?
[16:56] <sian> Squidy: do you know about printer control queues?
[16:57] <sian> eljot: do you know about printer control queues?
[16:59] <sian> I want to print a test page on my HP LaserJet 1018, but it doesn't happern
[16:59] <sian> The printer prints nothing.
[17:01] <sian> The job gets submitted according to the window which appears
[17:01] <sian> and the job is recorded as completed when I use the CUPS admin page
[17:02] <sian> but nothing appears on the printer. The light on the printer doesn't
[17:02] <sian> show that data is being downloaded to the printer. Nothing. Nada.
[17:02] <sian> Anybody got any ideas as what could be the matter?
[17:20] <wisa> hello!
[17:20] <wisa> !!!!!!!!!!!!
[17:21] <EagleScreen> hello
[17:57] <srdjan> Hi. Which package provides asm/page.h ?
[17:58] <srdjan> apt-file search seems to tell me it's some irrelevant packages
[18:02] <rork> !find asm/page.h
[18:06] <rork> I'd be wondering if ubottu was looking for the wrong package or just returns the wrong name :S
[18:07] <srdjan> "Actually, <asm/page.h> is about to be removed on all architectures, and it's been empty for some time on several architectures (avr32, arm, ...)"
[18:07] <srdjan> :/
[18:19] <Whisky`> how do I install gtk+ and glib in Kubuntu?
[18:27] <EagleScreen> Whisky`: Applications -> System -> Software Management; look for libgtk-2.0 stuff
[18:33] <seicherlbob> hi there! Im testing Lucid Beta 2 on a new laptop. I tried to use an external monitor via VGA, but the screen is distorted, although the size is set correct. I tried xrandr and KDE System Settings, both had the same effect. The screen is stretched horizontally so it does not fit on the monitor. I have a nVidia 3100M card. any suggestions how to fix that?
[18:34] <adultosolvente50> holaaaaaa
[18:42] <sucheneu> hallo
[18:43] <daniel__> hello guys! does anyone fancy a titty wank??
[18:43] <genii> daniel__: This is a support channel
[18:43] <daniel__> all right
[18:43] <daniel__> i was joking
[18:43] <daniel__> lol
[18:43] <daniel__> sorry
[18:43] <daniel__> i take it back
[18:43] <FloodBotK3> daniel__: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:44] <xjkx> how do i make a video with a text ? i'm about to create a presentation and there i will expose videos, the video should previously come with a black screen and an explanation of what the hell the video is about, and then i will show it, i already know how to unite videos so if i could create a text video i'd just join them, i dont even know the name of this "writing-text-video" so i cant even google
[18:45] <seicherlbob> xjkx: if you want text in a video, these are normall called "titles"
[18:46] <seicherlbob> xjkx: maybe that helps
[18:46] <genii> I'm not sure if kdenlive has it, possibly
[18:47] <seicherlbob> genii: i thought about that one too, just forgot the name, thanks
[18:48] <xjkx> seicherlbob: thanks
[19:19] <Chicano> Hi all
[19:20] <Chicano> I was wondering: what is the status of pulseaudio in Lucid?
[19:21] <Chicano> will it be used or not? and if so, will it be using Mandriva's patches?
[19:26] <seicherlbob> hi again! i have a nvidia graphics card installed. how can i find out, what driver i am using? (I've heard there are 2 OS and the proprietary one). glxinfo tells me, i use "Mesa". Is this the nouveau driver?
[19:29] <rork> Chicano: you might ask in #ubuntu+1
[19:32] <Chicano> rork: A couple of minutes after I posted my question here I got that very same idea. I don't visit the IRC channels too often so didn't get right away that ubuntu+1 is also being used for ubuntu "derivatives". But thanks anyway
[19:33] <rork> you're welcome
[19:54] <junctions> is there any channel for kstars or apps of the sort?
[19:59] <KDesk> why is the kubuntu backports ppa almost empty, where is KDE 4.4 for 9.10?
[20:03] <rork> KDesk: http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kde-sc-4.4.2
[20:05] <rork> I don't know why it (could be) empty, I don't use KDE 4.4 myself
[20:05] <KDesk> rork: it has only digikam
[20:05] <KDesk> https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa/+archive/backports
[20:16] <Agrigor> Servus@All, ähm hab grad ein Problem: Hab KDE 4.3 und innerhalb der Anwendung "Konsole" aus versehen meine Menüleiste verschwinden lassen... die Frage ist jetzt: wo bekomm ich die jetzt wieder her?^^
[20:20] <arch0njw> !de | Agrigor
[20:20] <Agrigor> k sry, bye
[20:27] <administrateur> soir
[20:33] <dennister> genii: hi there, long time no chat
[20:34]  * genii slides dennister a coffee
[20:34] <dennister>  thanx; having a problem with long-working samba here since my move
[20:35] <dennister> oc course, I haven't tried to use it for a week after that move, so probably just didn't notice before
[20:36] <genii> Probably something like they are getting different IP than before or something simple
[20:37] <dennister> but my 'puter is set to manual, 'static' ip address from modem/router
[20:38] <dennister> it hasn't changed, fstab hasn't changed, samba shares just don't get mounted
[20:38] <arch0njw> dennister: did you switch ISPs when you moved?
[20:38] <dennister> nope
[20:39] <dennister> and the external IP address change should have no bearing on the internal IP address from the modem/router
[20:39] <arch0njw> dennister: I had a problem switching from Comcast to Verizon.  I needed to change something so ... err ... either my router or my modem was a recognized DNS server
[20:40] <genii> dennister: If you can't find help today on it try me tomorrow aft (1-3ish). Right now I'm running around at work a lot, we have 3 Roger's Cable people tripping over themselves etc
[20:40] <genii> ( why my status is currently /away )
[20:41] <dennister> genii: ah, ok...just wanted to say hi anyway, it's been so long
[20:42] <arch0njw> dennister: it was my /etc/resolv.conf that I had to edit.  I had to add my router as a nameserver.  that was it.
[20:42] <arch0njw> dennister: of course, I'm taking a wild stab at a potential solution.  Perhaps worse than a guess.
[20:43] <dennister> that's ok...had forgotten to check that, and yes, my router is still the nameserver
[20:59] <derick_> hello?
[21:00] <mm_202> Does anyone know of an actual tool to manage KDE 4.4's  Desktop Activities?
[21:36] <kaddi> hi I'm having problems with my clock. It's off by an hour. I tried resetting it in systemsettings or using the timeserver, but I only get the following error:  Unable to authenticate/execute the action: 6 Help?
[21:36] <kaddi> it's a 64bit OS
[21:37] <Torch> kaddi: run "kdesudo kcmshell4 clock"
[21:37] <kaddi> what does it do?
[21:38] <Torch> kaddi: run the system settings module that sets the clock as root
[21:38] <kaddi> oh, ok. How nifty :)
[21:38] <Torch> kaddi: its a permissions problem. kubuntu's kde 4.4 is broken.
[21:38] <kaddi> oh
[21:38] <kaddi> not good :s
[21:38] <Torch> kaddi: it works in kubuntu 10.04
[21:38] <kaddi> hehe, I'll wait a little before I upgrade to that though..
[21:39] <kaddi> Torch: so how do i get around changing the clock without systemsettings?
[21:40] <Torch> kaddi: what i suggest above should still work.
[21:40] <Torch> kaddi: as an alternative, use date from the command line.
[21:40] <Torch> kaddi: or ntp
[21:40] <kaddi> Torch: it doesn't i'm getting the same error as for systemsettings. It's kde 4.4.2 on 9.10
[21:40] <Torch> kaddi: that's bad news. i haven't tried it, i was just assuming it would work. sorry bout that.
[21:41] <Torch> kaddi: you can run "sudo ntpdate ntp.ubuntu.com" from a shell
[21:42] <Torch> kaddi: that will set the clock via time server
[21:42] <kaddi> i used date that should have worked
[21:42] <kaddi> it did
[21:42] <kaddi> [23:39] <Torch> kaddi: you can run "sudo ntpdate ntp.ubuntu.com" from a shell
[21:42] <kaddi> [22:39] <Torch> kaddi: that will set the clock via time server
[21:42] <kaddi> :D
[21:42] <kaddi> ty :)
[21:42] <FloodBotK3> kaddi: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:42] <Torch> kaddi: don'
[21:42] <Torch> oops
[21:42] <kaddi> hehe
[21:42] <kaddi> i was about to stop talking when FloodBotK complained :p
[22:19] <jacob__> Hello, I have an ATI radeon x800, which is not supported by fglrx drivers anymore. I tried to install the fglrx driver before noticing this, and now that I am back using the opensource ati drivers I can not change desktop effects settings.
[22:20] <jacob__> It gives the message "Compositing is not supported on your system". How can I fix this?
[23:01] <ge0rge007> hello all! I have a bautec usb router and it works great with gnome network manager(ubuntu) but when i tried it at kubuntu doesn't work.Does the k network manager support usb routers?
[23:25] <scb> Hello. I am using KDE 4.4.2 from the backports. Everytime I close my laptop's lid it locks down the screen. However, when I come back to unlock it the password dialog never comes up, I can't even move the mouse. The only way to recover from this is to killall -9 kscreenlocker. Any idea what could be going wrong?