[04:15] <micahg> mr_pouit: I dropped the i386 only langpacks on the alternate CD so we shouldn't be oversized in today's builds
[06:34] <mr_pouit> okay, thanks
[11:10] <mr_pouit> xubuntu/daily: oneiric-alternate-i386.iso oversized by 16035840 bytes (750039040)
[11:10] <mr_pouit> mmh
[11:10] <mr_pouit> micahg: either it didn't use your change, or there's something else going on
[11:52] <astraljava> micahg: Feel free to use me if you need help with anything re: bug 831768
[11:52] <astraljava> It just won't do.
[13:19] <Olbi> hello
[13:20] <Olbi> xubuntu is freezing today or another day?
[13:51] <madnick> UI Freeze yeterday IIRC
[14:12] <madnick> morning
[15:13] <charlie-tca> mr_pouit: Can you be around next week so if we run into problems, we can get them fixed for beta1?
[15:25] <mr_pouit> yeah (but I might not be near my gpg key to be able to upload)
[15:26] <charlie-tca> but if we fix things, someone else can upload it, right?
[15:26] <charlie-tca> Usually we know by about 16:00 UTC if things are broken
[15:27] <mr_pouit> yeah, anyone (= any ubuntu dev) can upload
[15:27] <charlie-tca> Great. Thank you
[15:28] <charlie-tca> Alternate images for today are building now
[15:44] <charlie-tca> alternate images now available. Sizes are only 660MB now
[16:05] <mr_pouit> okay, so the fix from micahg worked
[16:06] <charlie-tca> we're gaining then?
[16:17] <mr_pouit> indeed (from 715M to 660M)
[16:17] <charlie-tca> mr_pouit: do I need to write up separate release notes from Ubuntu for the beta release?
[16:18] <charlie-tca> good. Both alternate images are the same size now
[16:18] <charlie-tca> Thank you for chairing, skaet
[16:19] <charlie-tca> wrong channel
[16:23] <mr_pouit> mmh, do we have special things to say for the beta?
[16:24] <mr_pouit> (except "yeah, lightdm's background is pink, but it's not final")
[16:24] <charlie-tca> couple of app changes, lightdm works, autologin fails except live cd, I don't think so
[16:25] <charlie-tca> Is it pink even with our background, or did we not get that yet/
[16:25] <charlie-tca> ?
[16:25] <charlie-tca> It's been blue on 64bit, pink on 32bit
[16:32] <mr_pouit> we don't have the background yet
[16:34] <Olbi> where in xfce I can change menu like it is on Gnome 2?
[16:34] <charlie-tca> You can't
[16:34] <charlie-tca> gnome is not Xfce
[16:35] <davmor2> morning charlie-tca
[16:36] <charlie-tca> There is a thing in repositories called gnome-menu, but it will be whatever the current version of gnome uses
[16:36] <charlie-tca> Morning, davmor2
[16:36] <charlie-tca> Ready for beta1?
[16:37] <davmor2> charlie-tca: I would be if it wasn't for the fact that I'll be camping next week, and no where near a confuser :) only time I could book :)
[16:37] <charlie-tca> That will be a nice break, then. Have fun :)
[16:38] <charlie-tca> mr_pouit: I will note the pink for our users ;)
[16:39] <mr_pouit> Olbi: you can use alacarte though
[16:56] <micahg> charlie-tca: mr_pouit: I could add back one of those languages on i386 then since we have the space
[16:56] <charlie-tca> mr_pouit: you want french on them?
[16:58] <micahg> well, what I removed was ar ru ja on i386
[16:58] <micahg> charlie-tca: we already have french
[16:58] <micahg> except on powerpc
[17:00] <charlie-tca> We don't have powerpc images
[17:01] <charlie-tca> But, it is still between you and mr_pouit to decide.
[17:01] <charlie-tca> You done good getting the images to the same size for both arches. Thanks for doing that
[17:03] <micahg> oh, hmm, that wasn't supposed to happen :-/, weird
[17:05] <charlie-tca> lol
[17:05] <charlie-tca> accidents happen ;)
[18:11] <charlie-tca> Lubuntu has made a decision to stay with lxdm, because lightdm is causing too many problems
[18:12] <charlie-tca> They are getting crashes when logging in with lightdm
[18:16] <micahg> wow :(
[18:26] <mr_pouit> I think it's fine if we have some free space (you can add back a language pack if you want though, I don't know who amon ar/ru/ja people are the worst in English)
[18:26] <mr_pouit> *among
[18:29] <mr_pouit> hehe, I don't blame lubuntu, there are many problems with lightdm :}
[18:40]  * micahg would think ja :)
[18:46] <mr_pouit> ok, feel free to add it ;-)
[18:59] <micahg> mr_pouit: k, will play with it over the weekend
[20:34] <micahg> mr_pouit: do you think it's worth syncing the thunar vcs plugin for oneiric?
[21:40] <mr_pouit> micahg: I think it can wait for o+1 (I'm not sure it's worth wasting some time of an archive admin for that)
[21:41] <micahg> mr_pouit: ok, makes sense, thought I'd ask though


 Is linux are ubuntu?
[00:26] <bazhang> serial troll, hitting 3rd channel in order
[16:25] <GitGud> ah i knew there was gonna be an ops channel
[16:25] <GitGud> so who can tell me why i was banned from #ubuntu?
[16:38] <GitGud> well ping me when you answer
[17:28] <tonyyarusso> @btlogin
[17:33] <tonyyarusso> GitGud: Any chance your IP address is in <IP_ADDRESS>/24?
[17:34] <GitGud> no sir
[17:34] <GitGud> hold on actually one sec
[17:34] <GitGud> cause i'm in my local library
[17:34] <GitGud> <IP_ADDRESS>
[17:34] <GitGud> thats my current ip ^
[17:36] <tonyyarusso> Ah, here it is
[17:37] <GitGud> so what is the issue?
[17:37] <tonyyarusso> ikonia: Set by you, 2015-06-24, bt log=68159.
[17:38] <tonyyarusso> GitGud: Looks like there was someone being offtopic from that IP last month.
[17:38] <GitGud> do you know the nick of that person?
[17:39] <tonyyarusso> ikonia: btw, the whois does check out to that IP being owned by "Toronto Public Library Board".
[17:39] <tonyyarusso> Yes, but that's not terribly relevant really.
[17:39] <GitGud> well. I was just on here yesterday with my home IP
[17:39] <GitGud> right now I'm at my library
[17:39] <GitGud> so it must had hit the filter
[17:40] <genii> GitGud: "gambl0re" was the nick used at that time
[17:40] <GitGud> yep. that's not me
[17:40] <GitGud> must had been someone from the same library?
[17:40] <genii> Possibly
[17:41] <GitGud> so could I be unbanned?
[17:42] <tonyyarusso> Normally we'd leave it until ikonia responded, but I think looking at this I'm fine removing it now - he can yell at me later if that's a problem.
[17:42] <GitGud> alrighty
[17:43] <GitGud> thank you
[18:29] <teward> anyone on watch in #ubuntu today?
[18:30] <DJones> What are you looking at teward
[18:30] <teward> DJones: the same thing you called them out on
[18:30] <teward> just a minute faster than you
[18:30] <teward> :)
[18:30] <teward> it smelled reminiscent of a bot
[18:30] <DJones> Heh, I looked at after commented, but thatnks for the prompt
[18:30] <DJones> after you commented
[18:32] <teward> heheh
[18:32] <teward> DJones: i'll keep you posted if i see them do it again, but likely you're already watching it
[18:32] <teward> thanks
[18:46] <teward> DJones: still around?
[18:47] <teward> or any other #ubuntu op
[18:49] <teward><EMAIL_ADDRESS>joins then excess floods, then joins again, excess floods, etc. continually, botnet like fashion is my guess
[18:49] <teward> can we ban that from the channel in #ubuntu ?
[18:49] <teward> Tebhw just flooded off
[18:54] <h00k> teward: oh, interesting. Yeah, I'll grab it.
[18:54] <h00k> teward: thanks
[18:54] <teward> h00k: keep an eye on *.abo.wanadoo.fr in the future as well - there's been a weeks-long trend of this activity as well
[18:54] <teward> in here, #winehq, and others
[18:55] <Unit193> There's a few more hosts that do this.
[18:55] <h00k> script fail.
[18:56] <teward> Unit193: indeed, afaict from #ubuntu the most prevalent is the wanadoo one
[18:56] <h00k> Unit193: can you grab it, I'm gonna figure out why my thing is broken
[18:57] <Unit193> h00k: I'm not an #ubuntu OP, though.
[18:57] <h00k> Unit193: I knew that, standby.
[18:58] <Unit193> h00k: I can grab it still if you need though.
[18:59] <h00k> c'mon.
[18:59] <Unit193> Want me to just ban<EMAIL_ADDRESS>for you?
[18:59] <teward> Unit193: that's a pretty wide ban though
[18:59] <h00k> Unit193: no, that's the entire ISP
[19:00] <h00k> why did it +I them
[19:00] <h00k> autobleh what are you doing.
[19:00] <Unit193> teward: The more the merrier! :P
[19:00] <teward> Unit193: heheh
[19:00] <teward> "BAN THEM ALL!" *bans everyone*  *500 complaints to IRCC*
[19:01] <teward> but yeah it's still a headache
[19:02] <h00k> herp derp. fixed it.
[19:02] <teward> there we go
[19:02] <teward> thanks, h00k
[19:02] <h00k> why is it not showing the entire channel on my client
[19:02] <h00k> HOW DO I COMPUTER
[19:03] <h00k> 14:02 ::: Mode #ubuntu "+b<EMAIL_ADDRESS>by h00k
[19:03] <Unit193> Should be $##fix_your_connection
[19:03] <Unit193> h00k: Really though, want me to tag it?
[19:06] <Unit193> h00k: There you go.
[19:08] <tonyyarusso> h00k: Just ban the Internet - 100% of the abusive users come from there.
[19:08] <Unit193> tonyyarusso: I've seen that happen! :D
[19:09] <tonyyarusso> Me too - #linode@oftc, a couple weeks ago.
[19:10] <h00k> maybe I just need to try /forward
[19:10] <h00k> I'll do that later.
[19:11] <h00k> my forwardban wants to +I
[19:13] <teward> h00k: [2015-07-23 15:12:32] * Drone` sets modes [#ubuntu -b<EMAIL_ADDRESS><-- drone is wrong
[19:13] <teward> burn it with fire?
[19:13] <h00k> oh come on, internet
[19:13] <Unit193> tonyyarusso: Drone is right, try reading it again, and look further back.
[19:13] <Unit193> teward: ^
[19:14] <teward> oop yep missed that :/
[19:14] <teward> sorry
[19:14] <h00k> it set the ban right, it's just not...
[19:14] <Unit193> Heh, sure. :)
[19:15] <h00k> 14:02 ::: Mode #ubuntu "+b<EMAIL_ADDRESS>by h00k mine did the same thing, but I told it proper
[19:16] <h00k> but that didn't include the $
[19:17] <h00k> tonyyarusso: see, work is killing my brain, why is it not showing the proper ban removal in that line?
[19:19] <tonyyarusso> h00k: hrmwhatnow?
[19:19] <h00k> tonyyarusso: the ban forward is reporting not-the-entire-line
[19:19] <h00k> see:
[19:19] <h00k> Drone` sets modes [#ubuntu -b<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[19:20] <Unit193> That's because that's what the ban was.
[19:20] <tonyyarusso> I wasn't aware "ban forwards" where beings capable of "reporting".
[19:20] <h00k> also exhibit b: Mode #ubuntu "+b<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[19:20] <Unit193> What about the one Drone` set?
[19:20] <h00k> not reporting, just the server echoing back the mode change
[19:20] <h00k> look at the channel
[19:20] <h00k> ##fix-your-connecti
[19:21] <h00k> I clearly had ##fix-your-connection in my line, I even did it manually, but it comes back "Set this to ##fix-your-connecti" and is cut off
[19:21] <h00k> Does that make sense?
[19:22] <tonyyarusso> h00k: But you didn't have the $, right?
[19:22] <h00k> tonyyarusso: I did not, but Drone did
[19:22] <tonyyarusso> and Drone's worked
[19:23] <h00k> I get I needed the $ for the actual ban to work
[19:23] <h00k> I don't know why it's echoing this:
[19:23] <h00k> * Drone` sets modes [#ubuntu -b<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[19:23] <h00k> oh, that was Unit193 clearing my ban
[19:23] <tonyyarusso> That's the REMOVE
[19:23] <tonyyarusso> 14:05:37 -!- mode/#ubuntu [+b<EMAIL_ADDRESS>by Drone`
[19:24]  * h00k sips
[19:24] <tonyyarusso> Without the $, the whole thing is being interpreted as the hostname, and hitting a (probably wrong) character limit.
[19:24] <h00k> It's probably hitting a chara-
[19:24] <h00k> yes
[19:24] <h00k> exactly that.
[19:24] <Unit193> h00k: Whatcha drinking?
[19:24] <h00k> Unit193: not enough, holy balls.
[19:25] <Unit193> Sorry for the confusion?  I have french pressed columbian.  Let it be known.
[19:27] <genii> DJones: We are both purveyors of fine coffees :) Consider joining us sometime in ##coffeeclub
[19:28] <tonyyarusso> See, now I'm stuck reading IRC RFCs to see if they have different character limits than SMTP.  Darn you.
[19:29] <h00k> that brings me to another point - my autojoins are screwed. irssi ends up joining my Freenode channels on other servers (slack)
[19:29] <h00k> tonyyarusso: because...that's great info to know...
[19:32] <h00k> tonyyarusso: what's the verdict?
[19:32] <tonyyarusso> On what planet are RFCs one-pagers?
[19:33] <tonyyarusso> Also, there are like six of them, soooooo
[19:33] <h00k> tonyyarusso: I thought you knew how to ctrl+f
[19:34] <tonyyarusso> Dear god.  This thing references RFCs from before DNS was a thing.  "the format of the Internet Host Table"
[19:40] <tonyyarusso> AHAH
[19:41] <h00k> oh lord
[19:41] <h00k> that was probably the same time somebody read that RFC last, tonyyarusso
[19:42] <tonyyarusso> "<hostname> has a maximum length of 63 characters.  This is a limitation of the protocol as internet hostnames (in particular) can be longer.  Such restriction is necessary because IRC messages are limited to 512 characters in length.  Clients connecting from a host which name is longer than 63 characters are registered using the host (numeric) address instead of the host name." - RFC 2812, section
[19:42] <tonyyarusso>  2.3.1
[19:42] <h00k> TIL
[19:42] <h00k> And TIF
[19:42] <tonyyarusso> Pretty much
[19:42] <h00k> (Tomorrow I'll Forget)
[19:42] <Unit193> Wouldn't it be easier to read the source of the ircd? :P
[19:44] <tonyyarusso> Unit193: That was going to come next if the RFCs suggested it should be longer and I thought it was an implementation error.
[19:46] <tonyyarusso> h00k: At the beginning of this hunch I pasted the string into a text editor and said "63 characters?  That's an ....interesting length."
[19:46] <h00k> I bet you can figure out why!
[19:47] <genii> today I learned what TIF means
[20:27] <Unit193> Can kIoeri be removed from #ubuntu?
[20:30] <Unit193> kloeri is Freenode staff, kIoeri was a troll.
[20:33] <genii> Unit193: Are you trying to confuse me now? Did i do good or bad? I need more coffee
[20:33] <kloeri> you did fine :)
[20:33] <Unit193> genii: A bad, you hit the staffer rather than troll. :3
[20:33] <Unit193> kloeri might get angry. :3
[20:33]  * genii hides
[20:33] <kloeri> really? I must be mixing up my channels then :)
[20:33] <tonyyarusso> genii: That's fantastic.  Thanks for the day-brightener :P
[20:34] <kloeri> oh well, can't really complain as my targetting is also off a bit from time to time :)
[20:36] <Unit193> tonyyarusso: Nice, though since he's already back in I wonder if it matters. :--D
[20:36] <tonyyarusso> Unit193: Not really - probably had to invite, but not hard.
[20:36] <tonyyarusso> Bad tab-completes used to happen *all the time* when the channel was busier than it is these days.
[20:39] <genii> @comment 68455 Boo-boo, bad tab-complete
[20:40] <tonyyarusso> Is that a pic-a-nic basket?
[20:40] <genii> Hah, smartass
[20:41] <genii> Well, at least there's that failsafe here that won't let you ban *!*@*  , which my Quassel used to substitute when the person left before command executed
[20:42] <genii> I did that a couple times before I figured out what the problem was
[20:42] <Unit193> There's no failsafe.
[20:43] <genii> I think i did empty the channel at least once that way
[20:43] <h00k> lol genii remoed a staffer.
[20:43] <h00k> that'll get back at them for accidentally k-lining me one day many years ago.
[20:44] <kloeri> genii: even more fun back when it was possible to kline *@* (yes, that did happen a few times)
[20:47] <genii> I'm afraid to try removing it now :((
[20:47] <genii> I'm having "one of those days"
[20:50] <tonyyarusso> h00k: I remember that
[20:51] <tonyyarusso> genii: I already removed your ban if that's what you mean
[20:51]  * genii feeds tonyyarusso tasty cookies in thanks
[21:06] <h00k> tonyyarusso: lol you do? Good memory.


[11:29] <sergiusens> r
[14:07] <phillw> gema: do you know if balloons is anywhere about?
[14:36] <balloons> wow.. my apologies everyone.. it's 1400 UTC isn't it?
[14:37] <balloons> why did this not get on my calendar? :-(
[14:39] <balloons> wait a second..
[14:39]  * balloons is confused
[14:40] <balloons> was 1400 utc 30 mins ago, or an hour and 30 mins ago?
[14:44] <roadmr> balloons: it's 1444 UTC hehe :)
[14:45] <balloons> ok.. so, it's not on my calendar sadly.. (it's still showing the old time).. but in addition, my calendar says 1400 utc was 1.5 hours ago :-(
[14:50] <alourie> balloons: no worries, apparently noone noticed
[14:51] <balloons> alourie, :-) So I put the event on the calendar at 1500 utc... which is 50 mins ago.. because I'm told that's 1400 utc.. and I'm only thoroughly confused.. but I'll blame google ;-)
[14:51] <alourie> balloons: yea, mind that we are starting summer time transitions, so this may give you trouble
[14:52] <astraljava> alourie: Starting?
[14:54] <alourie> astraljava: yea, why?
[14:54] <alourie> I mean, not everyone does it at the same time, so starting :-)
[14:54] <balloons> yes.. US did it a few weeks ago.. but UK and some others just did it
[14:54] <alourie> yep
[14:56] <astraljava> Well, so did Finland, but that was already 25th of March. AFAIUI, so did Britain.
[14:56] <balloons> aha! I'm not crazy.. google calendar isn't handling daylight savings time
[14:56] <alourie> we did it last friday
[14:56] <balloons> so everything is off.. it's showing things in est, when I'm in edt now
[14:56] <alourie> here you go
[14:56] <balloons> http://groups.google.com/a/googleproductforums.com/forum/#!topic/calendar/PMSuGcOOVdk
[14:57] <astraljava> alourie: Where is 'we'?
[14:58] <alourie> Israel
[14:58] <alourie> for now :-)
[14:58] <astraljava> Ok. But please elaborate, if you already switched, why are you just now _starting_ to make the transition? :)
[14:59] <astraljava> It doesn't really matter, I'm just curious. :)
[14:59] <alourie> astraljava: oh, by "we" I didn't mean my country
[15:00] <alourie> I mean the QA folks
[15:00] <alourie> "us" as in this group, here
[15:00] <astraljava> Oh. Huh. Well, isn't it a tad late? :)
[15:00] <alourie> :-)
[15:01] <astraljava> ...and I'm not wanting to point at the obvious... *wink*
[15:01] <phillw> balloons: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/calendars/fridge/ shows it correctly, is it your personal calendar that is out?
[15:01] <balloons> phillw, yea.. I had fun getting cjohnston to get the fridge calendar be correct
[15:01] <balloons> but right
[15:02] <balloons> my personal was off
[15:02] <balloons> it's fixed now
[15:03] <phillw> balloons: did you get my email re: http://qa.ubuntu.com/ ?
[15:04] <phillw> I cannot edit that page to correct it :)
[15:12] <balloons> phillw, yea
[15:12] <balloons> it was quite fun yesterday trying to edit it
[15:12] <balloons> I can't.. and no one I found could
[15:12] <balloons> but I'll get it changed
[15:12] <phillw> okies :)
[15:12] <balloons> :-)
[15:14] <alourie> balloons: I think ara can
[15:14] <balloons> ara couldn't do it anymore :-(
[15:14] <alourie> ?? how come?
[15:15] <balloons> mm.. ohh right
[15:15] <balloons> I remember now. .I think since it was in the template, she couldn't edit it
[15:15] <alourie> and wasn't the template a part of lp branch?
[15:15] <balloons> it's in wordpress.. afaik.. it's not
[15:16] <balloons> but if it is.. we might have easier time editing
[15:20] <alourie> balloons: I've made a patch once, I think templates are in the lp
[15:20] <balloons> alourie, if you can find them again.. let me know
[15:21] <balloons> i don't know anything about the site
[15:21] <balloons> i'd appreciate it
[15:21] <alourie> balloons: would this be it? https://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-qa-website-devel/
[15:22] <alourie> although there was a talk about rewriting it in drupal
[15:24] <balloons> alourie, hmm
[15:26] <alourie> balloons: is it like "hmm, interesting..."
[15:26] <alourie> ?
[15:27] <balloons> lol
[15:27] <balloons> yes
[15:27] <balloons> this appears like it might be it
[15:27] <balloons> and ara can upload there of course
[15:27] <balloons> i'll point her to it
[15:27] <alourie> great then
[15:27] <alourie> :-)
[15:28] <alourie> happy to help
[15:28] <balloons> thank you!
[15:29] <alourie> sure
[15:31] <alourie> I must leave now, so laters :-)
[23:08] <phillw> balloons: ping...