[03:11] <mindlace> which is why I'm in this situation in the first place
[03:11] <perdidopunk> how do i install this .deb ?
[03:11] <cope_> is there a big difference between horay and badger?
[03:11] <frogzoo> perdidopunk: dpkg -i x.deb
[03:11] <perdidopunk> thanks
[03:11] <funktown> use sudo, though
[03:11] <frogzoo> yar
[03:11] <Kyral> cope_: Hoary (5.04) is the predecessor to Breezy(5.10)
[03:11] <slide> Is there a way to install vmware5 using the packages?
[03:11] <intelikey> perdidopunk apt-get install     if at all possable
[03:11] <Kyral> cope_: Breezy is current
[03:11] <perdidopunk> no network
[03:11] <Kyral> intelikey: he has no net
[03:11] <Technobabble> cope, horay < badger == mushroom == snake
[03:12] <Kyral> Technobabble: lol
[03:12] <Technobabble> it's true...
[03:12] <cope_> lol
[03:12] <calc> mindlace: i use lvm on pretty much all the servers i manage at my job
[03:12] <cope_> so when i install a mushroom, will i start seeing things?
[03:12] <shanonx> hi everyone...
[03:12] <Technobabble> maybe
[03:12] <cope_> will my hand look big?
[03:12] <Kyral> No I'm remembering Matt and someone else doing the dance at UBuntuLove lol
[03:13] <shanonx> anyone here that can help me with some very basic linux commands... <-- NOOB!
[03:13] <Kyral> shanonx: gimme a sec to dig up something
[03:13] <ma5terdp> hay im back with a new question people
[03:13] <j1> hey all
[03:13] <mindlace> calc: cool, so you know what's needed for grub to use a LVM device for root?
[03:13] <shanonx> ok Kyral thank ya.
[03:13] <Kyral> shanonx: check this out http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=73885
[03:14] <calc> mindlace: just root=/dev/(foo)/root or whatever you called it
[03:14] <ma5terdp> how do i get permission do a mounted hda undert Ubuntu
[03:14] <j1> anyone have experience with installing nVidia drivers for Linux for their GEforce cards?
[03:14] <ICE9> is there a way to update mount to look for other file sytems ?
[03:14] <ICE9> or no
[03:14] <intelikey> shanonx don't ask to ask, just ask.
[03:14] <funktown> ma5terdp > sudo?
[03:14] <Kyral> j1: sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx && sudo nvidia-glx-config enable
[03:14] <calc> mindlace: at least on debian, i am using debian sarge on the servers at work, ubuntu should be the same though
[03:14] <ma5terdp> i get errors like cannont move file non permision file system
[03:14] <ma5terdp> like this for example
[03:14] <intelikey> ICE9 man mount.    and man fstab
[03:14] <mindlace> calc: oh, cool. If it's that easy I will be a very happy monkey
[03:14] <qt2> Kyral, err, there should be an appendage under the flash sound issues osmwhere that symptoms of the flash sound issues include: flash videos stopping after 1sec of play, firefox freezing when going to another page ater having tried to view a flash video, and the firefox process not correctly ending after having tried to view a flash video.
[03:15] <frogzoo> !tell j1 about nvidia
[03:15] <perdidopunk> anybody here using a radeon x1000 series video card ?
[03:15] <ma5terdp> ok i put this sudo mv 1.1 /media/drive
[03:15] <Kyral> qt2: you can actully add that yourself
[03:15] <qt2> Kyral, i experienced all of those trying to figure out why flash wouldnt play more than one second of video.
[03:15] <ma5terdp> i get this error
[03:15] <qt2> Kyral, can i? i'm not familiar with wiki's.
[03:15] <Kyral> qt2: Yup
[03:15] <j1> Kyral... thanks, that seems to be working : )
[03:15] <shanonx> Sorry intelikey
[03:16] <ma5terdp> permission deniied
[03:16] <Kyral> shanonx: it is quite alright
[03:16] <ma5terdp> how do i cd to a drive
[03:16] <cope_> how much wood can a woodchuck chuck
[03:16] <Kyral> shanonx: Humanity To Others
[03:16] <ma5terdp> when i get permision denied
[03:16] <cope_> of course, that is, if the wood chuck could chuck it
[03:16] <Kyral> ma5terdp: cd /path
[03:16] <funktown> ma5terdp > is "/media/drive" mounted?
[03:16] <ma5terdp> yup
[03:16] <intelikey> ma5terdp so was there a file named   '1.1' in your home dir that is now in /media/drive ?
[03:16] <ma5terdp> mounted
[03:16] <diego> ESPAOL?
[03:16] <ma5terdp> it wont go  2 media drive
[03:16] <funktown> did you set up fstab?
[03:17] <ma5terdp> no how do i fstab
[03:17] <j1> Kyral, tells me to restart X...  how do you recommend I do that
[03:17] <frogzoo> !tell diego about es
[03:17] <j1> reboot?
[03:17] <diego> #ubuntu_es
[03:17] <ma5terdp> i got drive mounted
[03:17] <diego> como se entra al canal en espaol?
[03:17] <Kyral> j1: Just hit CTRL+ALT+BACKSPACE
[03:17] <slide> Is there no 'package' for vmware5? If not, would yall recommend using the perl installers default values for the directories?
[03:17] <frogzoo> !es
[03:17] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[03:17] <mindlace> masterdp: is your name a reference to your proclivity at performing in a particularly plural penetrating process?
[03:17] <tiwi> what is the dcc
[03:17] <ma5terdp> lol nooo its my initials
[03:17] <j1> thanks again Kyral
[03:18] <frank23> slide: yeah the defaults should be ok.  export CC=/usr/bin/gcc-3.4  before running config
[03:18] <fangorious> how do I prevent my network interfaces from being re-added as, for example, "auto eth0" in /etc/network/interfaces?
[03:18] <ma5terdp> ok here is what im trying 2 do
[03:18] <slide> k
[03:18] <intelikey> tiwi dcc=direct client 2 client
[03:18] <fangorious> I keep removing that, and it keeps coming back
[03:18] <mindlace> ah well... here I thought you were a porn star, ma5terdp
[03:18] <slide> frank23, there is no way to get it to use the packing system so that it can get updated regularly?
[03:19] <ma5terdp> lol
[03:19] <ma5terdp> gotcha
[03:19] <ma5terdp> done a cple flix in my days tho lol
[03:19] <frank23> slide: no vmware does not have a deb repository
[03:19] <slide> k =\
[03:19] <Kyral> j1: It worked?
[03:19] <frank23> slide: as far as I know anyways
[03:19] <frank23> slide: you need gcc-3.4 and the kernel headers installed too
[03:20] <slide> okedoke
[03:20] <slide> frank23, the 'base' or the gcc-3.4 package?
[03:20] <ma5terdp> ok i get a read only filesystem error!!
[03:20] <frank23> slide: just gcc-3.4
[03:20] <funktown> masterdp > what is it you're trying to do, exactly?
[03:21] <ma5terdp> when i do a sudo mv 1.1 /media/mac
[03:21] <slide> ty :)
[03:21] <j1> Kyral: it worked great, thanks!
[03:21] <ma5terdp> i am trying to move a file
[03:21] <j1> i was just running penguin racer to test
[03:21] <j1> flawless
[03:21] <funktown> from where to where?
[03:21] <ma5terdp> from my ubuntu desktop to my hda2 partition
[03:21] <perdidopunk> i just love dependencies...
[03:21] <Kyral> j1: Just warning. When the Kernel gets an update there is a good chance you will have to redo that
[03:21] <perdidopunk> here's a question
[03:21] <ma5terdp> wich is /media/mac
[03:21] <ma5terdp> so i do this
[03:21] <perdidopunk> i have windows installed on a raid 0 array on an SiL 0680 pci raid controller
[03:21] <perdidopunk> i want to put that installation into my grub.conf
[03:22] <fangorious> anyone? network interfaces keep getting added to /etc/network/interfaces to be configured at boot
[03:22] <ma5terdp> sudo mv 1.1 /media/mac and i get read-only file system
[03:22] <perdidopunk> what do i need to do ?
[03:22] <j1> ahh. thanks.  will i be able to start X at least?
[03:22] <frank23> j1: no
[03:22] <ICE9> damn this sucks
[03:22] <ICE9> lol
[03:22] <Kyral> j1: just drop to a terminal and redo those steps
[03:22] <funktown> ma5terdp.. "gedit /etc/fstab" and see what it says for "/dev/hda2"
[03:22] <ICE9> do I need to convert the iso maybe
[03:22] <Kyral> j1: But you don't have to worry, a kernel update shouldn't come until April
[03:22] <j1> got it.  I'll record that command for later use.
[03:22] <frank23> j1: If I understand what you did... you installed the nvidia drivers from nvidia.com
[03:22] <frank23> ?
[03:22] <intelikey> ICE9 what are you trying to do with this file ?
[03:23] <ma5terdp> k working
[03:23] <j1> Kryal, do you work for whobuntu?
[03:23] <ICE9> I need files inside the iso
[03:23] <frogzoo> fangorious: not sure - gnome doing it? deactivate card through network settings? tool bar, top right
[03:23] <ma5terdp> it says /dev/mapper/casper-snapshot / auto noatime 0 0
[03:23] <ma5terdp> tmpfs /tmp tmpfs nosuid,nodev 0 0
[03:23] <Kyral> Kyral: I am a Member, yes
[03:23] <Kyral> err
[03:23] <Kyral> lol
[03:23] <j1> cool
[03:23] <Kyral> j1: I am a Member yes
[03:23] <perdidopunk> can i upgrade packages with dpkg ?
[03:23] <ICE9> I need to copy some the of files inside the iso
[03:23] <ICE9> so I can play quake ?
[03:23] <funktown> no.. for /dev/hda2.. wheres the mountpoint at?
[03:23] <Kyral> j1: In my normal life I'm just a college student who likes to help
[03:24] <slide> what is 'make' part of?
[03:24] <ma5terdp> thats what fstab says
[03:24] <j1> Kyral: how long have you studied linux
[03:24] <intelikey> ICE9 what is the path and name of the iso ?
[03:24] <ICE9> mount: unknown filesystem type 'dev-qua4.iso'
[03:24] <ICE9> oops
[03:24] <ICE9> one sec
[03:24] <slide> which version of automake should i install? The newest?
[03:24] <Kyral> j1: Studied isn't the word. Used is more like it. Almost 3 years now
[03:24] <ma5terdp> i mounted my /dev/hda2 onto /media/mac
[03:24] <perdidopunk> what do i do, dpkg -U or something to update packages ?
[03:25] <Kyral> perdidopunk: just install the new version
[03:25] <j1> Kyral: well, thanks for your help
[03:25] <Kyral> I believe DPKG will take care of the rest
[03:25] <ICE9> sudo mount -o loop -t qua4.iso /home/ice9/games/QUAKE.4.DVD-DEViANCE/qua4.iso  /mnt/quake/
[03:25] <ma5terdp> ii did a sudo mount /dev/hda2 -t hfsplus /media/mac
[03:25] <ICE9> that what I have
[03:25] <Kyral> j1: Anytime. This is what I am here for
[03:25] <ma5terdp> is that correct>
[03:25] <intelikey> perdidopunk man dpkg for all the switchs
[03:25] <perdidopunk> i think i found it
[03:25] <funktown> dunno.. i always just made fstab entries =P
[03:26] <perdidopunk> ugh
[03:26] <stevenj> can somone please tell me if its possible to play encrypted wmv files in breezy???? I can play regular wmv or anything else!
[03:26] <perdidopunk> i'm getting no breaks
[03:26] <Technobabble> thank you guys a lot, i'll be back later
[03:26] <diego> como agrego un canal en espaol?
[03:26] <ma5terdp> so how would i to a fstab>
[03:26] <McScruff> lo, what package do i need for  uudeview.h
[03:26] <intelikey> ICE9 qua4.iso is a file system type  ????
[03:26] <perdidopunk> i'm about to scrap this and get another distro if i can't at least get X up and running soon
[03:26] <ICE9> yes
[03:26] <navarone> McScruff,  try sudo dpkg -l <filename>
[03:26] <diego> nadie habla espaol che?
[03:27] <intelikey> and qua4.isofs is supported by your kernel ?
[03:27] <ICE9> should be
[03:27] <perdidopunk> can i force this to remove libc6 ???
[03:27] <ICE9> amd generic
[03:27] <ICE9> 64 bit
[03:27] <perdidopunk> i'm trying to install a new version
[03:27] <funktown> ma5terdp > /dev/hda2 /media/mac ext3(or whatever) defaults 0 0
[03:27] <Nikusan> diego, /join #ubuntu-es
[03:27] <frank23> perdidopunk: don't ever remove libc6
[03:28] <perdidopunk> i have a newer version that i need to install
[03:28] <ma5terdp> how do i enter taht?
[03:28] <logical_mark> Hey guys. My laptop battery died when I was in Ubuntu and now when I login it just sits on the brown background. None of the icons or panels start up
[03:28] <ma5terdp> just in terminal
[03:28] <ma5terdp> as is
[03:28] <perdidopunk> it's part of a set of dependencies for libncurses5-dev
[03:28] <frogzoo> ICE9: no way - I think youe looking at the file name
[03:28] <intelikey> ICE9 it's new fs type to me.... all the iso's i've played with were iso9660/rr
[03:28] <perdidopunk> is there an update flag for dpkg ???
[03:28] <perdidopunk> --update-avail didn't do anything
[03:28] <ma5terdp> lol how do i unmouint drive
[03:29] <frogzoo> perdidopunk: man dpkg
[03:29] <perdidopunk> -i just tells me it's already installed
[03:29] <theCore> diego, ask how to add a spanish channel
[03:29] <perdidopunk> i looked in there
[03:29] <ma5terdp> never mind lol
[03:29] <perdidopunk> the only useful one i could find was --update-avail but that just gives me a parse error
[03:29] <ICE9> its an iso from a rar
[03:29] <perdidopunk> newline in field name '!<arch>'
[03:29] <ICE9> not a cd
[03:29] <perdidopunk> this is starting to get pretty lame
[03:29] <frank23> perdidopunk: what are you trying to do exactly?  you can use synaptic to have everything updated
 try this pls.  ' sudo mount -o loop /home/ice9/games/QUAKE.4.DVD-DEViANCE/qua4.iso  /mnt/quake/ ; ls /mnt/quake '
[03:29] <diego> como es el canal espaol?
[03:29] <perdidopunk> i had an easier time putting linux on my laptop...
[03:30] <amonkey> what's a good prog for monitoring which proccesses are hoggin the memory? top shows that almost all my memory is taken but doesn't say who, and gkrell says it's almost all free
[03:30] <perdidopunk> i can't update anything over the net
[03:30] <perdidopunk> because ubuntu can't see my network card
[03:30] <ICE9> yeah that is the file name
[03:30] <perdidopunk> or my video card for that matter
[03:30] <frogzoo> ICE9: I think if this file was an iso, 'file' would recognise it - my guess is it's still in rar form & you need to unrar it
[03:30] <ICE9> I'm sorry just got confused
 try this pls.  ' sudo mount -o loop /home/ice9/games/QUAKE.4.DVD-DEViANCE/qua4.iso  /mnt/quake/ ; ls /mnt/quake '
[03:30] <perdidopunk> so i'm stuck in a terminal with no network connectivity
[03:30] <ma5terdp> hay funktown how do i enter that cmd?
[03:30] <ma5terdp> says permision denied
[03:30] <Hericus> ^majik^, you left the forums?
[03:30] <Xenguy> amonkey: top should show who
[03:30] <mcjerry> does anyone use the MCE remote in ubuntu?
[03:30] <perdidopunk> i have the .deb file for libc6
[03:30] <perdidopunk> and all i want to do is replace the older version
[03:31] <frogzoo> intelikey: this file ICE9 is trying to mount isnt an iso
[03:31] <frank23> perdidopunk: you need a more recent version of libc6? why?
[03:31] <amonkey> Xenguy, top mem% can't be correct, only 15-20% (inline withwhat gkrell says is used) is shown but at the top it's almost all gone
[03:31] <perdidopunk> in order to get libncurses5-dev installed
[03:31] <perdidopunk> so that i can do make menuconfig to configure my kernel
[03:31] <intelikey> frogzoo ah dvd
[03:31] <perdidopunk> i don't want to do it in text mode
[03:31] <perdidopunk> so that i can configure the kernel to support pci express
[03:32] <tk422> hello
[03:32] <perdidopunk> so that i can get some video and network drivers installed
[03:32] <ma5terdp> anyone?
[03:32] <Xenguy> amonkey: check CPU and mem, find the offending app, and kill -9 it
[03:32] <diego>  /join #ubuntu-es
[03:32] <perdidopunk> so that i can finally think about changing my grub.conf to boot back into windows on that machine
[03:32] <tk422> can anyone help with a problem? when I launch amarok it says something about a DCOP problem, anyone know about this?
[03:32] <navarone> perdidopunk,  if you don't want to configure in text mode shouldn't your first task be getting x server operational?
[03:32] <amonkey> Xenguy, in the rows, nothing is taking up a lot of anything
[03:32] <ICE9> ok I get iso9960
[03:32] <perdidopunk> can't very well do that without pci express support
[03:32] <ICE9> is teh filetype
[03:32] <frank23> perdidopunk: oh.... the breezy kernel doesn't support pci express ?
[03:32] <perdidopunk> my video card is a radeon x1800 xt 512mb
[03:33] <perdidopunk> just came out
[03:33] <ICE9> ok
[03:33] <perdidopunk> i have the drivers for it
[03:33] <navarone> perdidopunk, ...seesm yuo put the cart before the horse
[03:33] <Xenguy> amonkey: in top, try playing with the > key
[03:33] <perdidopunk> but i have a feeling that when i installed ubuntu it didn't configure the kernel for pci express support
[03:33] <ma5terdp> sorry 2 keep buggin
[03:33] <Xenguy> amonkey: and then < to get back where you were
[03:33] <ma5terdp> anyone help me out
[03:33] <perdidopunk> it would've helped if it asked me to choose how i wanted to configure it instead of just doing it for me...
[03:33] <amonkey> Xenguy, yeah i know about that, nothing is taking the memory nor the cycles
[03:33] <ma5terdp> i am trying 2 edit my drive
[03:33] <bretzel> Hi there, how to configure and enable the TV out with ubuntu ?
[03:33] <intelikey> ok ICE9 any error message ?    or any output from the 'ls' ?
[03:34] <Xenguy> amonkey: if memory is short, then something is hogging it - what do you think is going on?
[03:34] <qt2> Kyral, erm, is there certain rules that should be followed when editing a wiki page?
[03:34] <mcjerry> anyone..if i want to use my MCE remote in ubuntu, what do i need to install other than LIRC package in synaptec?
[03:34] <mcjerry> bretzel, what video card?
[03:35] <Xenguy> amonkey: otherwise, maybe your system is compromised and someone invisible is using your resources <evil grin>
[03:35] <sorush20> guys hi
[03:35] <Xenguy> amonkey: only a remote possibility I trust
[03:35] <sorush20> I've install jdk
[03:36] <amonkey> Xenguy, the werid thing is gkrell says the memory is free and top says it's not, but doesn't say whose using it. i don't think it's a intruder, no significant net traffic
[03:36] <perdidopunk> well
[03:36] <perdidopunk> let's see if alien will install my video drivers and if then X -configure will fix things anyway
[03:36] <Xenguy> amonkey: maybe kill X and check things from the console?
[03:36] <ICE9> I'm so sorry guys
[03:36] <perdidopunk> broken pipe
[03:36] <perdidopunk> man
[03:36] <ICE9> I though iso9960 was an example
[03:36] <amonkey> is there any other app than top that will show me this info?
[03:37] <perdidopunk> ubuntu just doesn't like any part of my computer
[03:37] <ChrisC_> OK, this is not cool.  I have just now experienced the most recent of several severe crashes on my new Ubuntu machine.  Clock freezes, no response to NumLock key, mouse not moving, no response to pings.  Anything else I can check before rebooting, and what should I check AFTER rebooting?
[03:37] <Xenguy> amonkey: what does 'free' say?
[03:37] <intelikey> ICE9 i said that -t was superflutious anyway....
[03:37] <amonkey> 35000k
[03:37] <perdidopunk> is anybody here using the ati linux drivers for radeon cards ???
[03:37] <amonkey> Xenguy, used is 1500000k
[03:38] <mcjerry> ChrisC_ do you have a cdrom or dvd mounted?
[03:38] <Xenguy> amonkey: and/or maybe memstat
[03:38] <ChrisC_> nope
[03:38] <ICE9> yeah -t -a is but you actually need the filesystem name
[03:38] <ICE9> I didn't know that
[03:38] <mcjerry> Can anyone help me with LIRC?
[03:38] <frank23> perdidopunk: did you try editing xorg.conf and using vesa as the driver?
[03:38] <Xenguy> amonkey: how much RAM do you have?
[03:38] <perdidopunk> what is initrd-tools for ?
[03:38] <mcjerry> ChrisC_ have you looked in terminal to see what processes are running and killall one by one
[03:38] <perdidopunk> can i remove that ?
[03:38] <merly> does apt-get get source and compile, or binary packages?
[03:39] <intelikey> filesystem name ?   file name ?    yes but not the fstype
[03:39] <mustard5> ChrisC_, you checked the forums for any similar problems?
[03:39] <ChrisC_> mcjerry: how to get to terminal? :)
[03:39] <frank23> merly: it gets binary packages
[03:39] <Vasion> Can someone tell me a VALID sources.list file for breezy so I can upgrade from hoary? The one on the wiki sucks/doesnt work.
[03:39] <Xenguy> ChrisC_: Ctrl-Alt F2  :-)
[03:39] <mcjerry> ChrisC_, ubuntu ... gnome?
[03:39] <mustard5> !sources
[03:39] <ubotu> A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy) - Create your own sources.list at http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[03:39] <ChrisC_> Xenguy, mcjerry:  it's dead, no mouse, keyboard, ping ...
[03:39] <merly> frank - how long would it gake me to apt-get x.org or whatever the name of the package is?
[03:40] <nadia007> anyone setup jinzora with msql 2000?
[03:40] <merly> i'm new, and thinking of dropping debian
[03:40] <merly> i mean dropping gentoo
[03:40] <Vasion> do it
[03:40] <ChrisC_> just wondering if there's anyhting else I can try before rebooting, and what I should look at AFTER I reboot (some sort of dump/panic record?)
[03:40] <mcjerry> ChrisC_ have you tried Ctrl-Alt-BackSpace to restart X session?
[03:40] <ChrisC_> hold on
[03:40] <perdidopunk> can i force apt-get to look in a specific place for a package ?
[03:41] <intelikey> "<ChrisC_> mcjerry: how to get to terminal? :)"  ---  "<Xenguy> ChrisC_: Ctrl-Alt F2  :-)"  <--- not a terminal.   that is a console.
[03:41] <Xenguy> intelikey: oops  =)
[03:41] <Vasion_> !sources
[03:41] <ubotu> A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy) - Create your own sources.list at http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[03:41] <mcjerry> inelikey......sho u right
[03:41] <perdidopunk> anybody ?
[03:42] <mcjerry> intelikey I am used to shelling in from another pc so I forget some can't
[03:42] <ChrisC_> intelikey: doesn't matter, nothing works; Ctrl-Alt-Backspace doesn't work; OK, so what should I check after rebooting?  This is bad.
[03:42] <amonkey> Xenguy, gig and a half, which is why i'm wondering who took it all
[03:42] <amonkey> Xenguy, i shouldn't be touching the swap
[03:43] <Urthmover> anyone know how to make a fat32 partition visible?
[03:43] <intelikey> ChrisC_ nothing works ?   can you give me more to work with please
[03:43] <GMachine_24> Someone told me that in order to run a program under my user name I have to do this: "sudo adduser" and then "username disk". When I do this I get a message that "disk already exists". Can anyone help me?
[03:43] <ChrisC_> intelikey: hold on, I'll repost ...
[03:43] <intelikey> Urthmover mount them
[03:43] <Kyral> qt2: sorry I stepped out
[03:43] <ChrisC_> [repost]  OK, this is not cool.  I have just now experienced the most recent of several severe crashes on my new Ubuntu machine.  Clock freezes, no response to NumLock key, mouse not moving, no response to pings.  Anything else I can check before rebooting, and what should I check AFTER rebooting?
[03:44] <Urthmover> ok I'mm man mount then thx intel
[03:44] <Xenguy> amonkey: 1.5 Gb?! It is crazy that it is all used (if it really is).  If it were me I would reboot and re-check
[03:44] <intelikey> Urthmover use 'sudo fdisk -l '  to find addresses then 'sudo mount <address> <mount/point> '
[03:44] <amonkey> Xenguy, free -m confirms what top i saying. this is a constant problem, though i can't identify when it started
[03:44] <mcjerry> ChrisC_ do you have another pc on the network you can use to vt in
[03:44] <pizzathief> my laptop freezes at random intervals if apm is on
[03:45] <ChrisC_> mcjerry: NO PING REPONSE :)
[03:45] <Xenguy> amonkey: other than my last advice, I don't know what to say - that is totally insane
[03:45] <mcjerry> ouch
[03:45] <mcjerry> what cpu?
[03:45] <ChrisC_> OK, let's move on .. what should I check after rebooting it?  dump/panic/log files?  where exactly?
[03:45] <intelikey> ChrisC_ EEEK!  boot to single  and see if it can even run in single mode.
[03:45] <kieso> hi all
[03:46] <amonkey> Xenguy, thanks.
[03:46] <kieso> i need help
[03:46] <ChrisC_> intelikey: I should note, it worked for days and then just crashed, so I ahve no doubt that I'll be able to reboot into normal runlevel
[03:46] <frogzoo> ChrisC_: check /var/log/messages just prior to reboot
[03:46] <mcjerry> ChrisC_ look through /var/logs and review .0 logs
[03:47] <mcjerry> after reboot
[03:47] <ChrisC_> frogzoo: can't, it's dead, will have to be after reboot
[03:47] <intelikey> ChrisC_ last line of files in /var/log    tac /var/log/* | grep -m2 -ie [a-z]     maybe.
[03:47] <sorush20> hi anyone here from the UK?
[03:47] <frogzoo> ChrisC_: thats cool - it's not going anywhere
[03:47] <mcjerry> sorry ChrisC_
[03:47] <kieso> does anyone know where or how i can enable ubuntu so that it can play dvd movies without that error
[03:48] <mcjerry> so one more time, can anyone help me with MCE remote and LIRC
[03:48] <ChrisC_> intelikey: is tac a fancy cat
[03:48] <lightbright> kieso: yes thats possible
[03:48] <intelikey> mcjerry not i mate.  sorry.
[03:48] <kieso> thanks lightbright
[03:49] <intelikey> ChrisC_ yessir  it starts at the bottom
[03:49] <lightbright> kieso: http://help.ubuntu.com/starterguide/C/faqguide-all.html
[03:49] <lightbright> kieso: follow the intructions on that webpage exactly as is
[03:49] <kieso> awesome!
[03:49] <kieso> thanks
[03:49] <mcjerry> np, i gotta say though, never had a software related issue force me to reboot ubuntu
[03:49] <lightbright> kieso: welcome :)
[03:49] <ChrisC_> intelikey: gotcha, thanks
[03:49] <psycode> Is there a non-graphical way to burn a dvd image/data? (I'm having problems running X and I really need to burn something..)
[03:50] <_tcc> Anyone program perl here?
[03:50] <_tcc> or use CPAN?
[03:50] <sammy76> i need to install grub to the root partition instead of it overwriting the boot manager I have, is there anyway to do this
[03:50] <_tcc> I cannot get CPAN to install modules.
[03:50] <psycode> _tcc, #perl
[03:50] <_tcc> no i was told to come here
[03:50] <mcjerry> is there a LIRC channel?
[03:51] <intelikey> psycode yes there is.   unfortunately i don't have a dvd player and thus havent learned the command yet.
[03:51] <psycode> intelikey, do you know the name of the program?
[03:51] <intelikey> no.
[03:52] <intelikey> dv[tab]   and man anything that looks suspicious  :)
[03:52] <mcjerry> intelikey, ChrisC_ .... later, hope you get the prob resolved......those symptoms sound heat related...... I'd also run memtest to be sure no memory prob.
[03:52] <xfree> is there on gnome-look or on gnome-art any theme based on cairo ?
[03:53] <intelikey> mcjerry or loose connection maybe even.
[03:53] <mustard5> psycode, dvdrtools is one I think
[03:53] <mcjerry> yup
[03:53] <mustard5> psycode, and another is dvd+rw-tools
[03:53] <intelikey> take care.
[03:54] <psycode> mustard5, thanks i'll try apt-getting it
[03:54] <mustard5> psycode, another is mkisofs
[03:54] <Shady> I just installed network-manager, and it's not showing up in appications. Is there a process I missed?
[03:54] <mustard5> psycode, I don't know what any of them do though :)
[03:54] <psycode> :P
[03:54] <intelikey> mustard5 does mkisofs now fully support dvd's ?
[03:55] <mustard5> intelikey, synaptics says something about DVD's in the description..thats all I know
[03:55] <_tcc> So anyone know why CPAN can never run make?
[03:55] <intelikey> k
[03:55] <_tcc> I  need a module!
[03:56] <intelikey> _tcc you have build-essential installed ?
[03:56] <cafuego> woot
[03:56] <Shady> Help network manager isn't working. I've installed it using synaptic, but it doesn't show up in applications, is there a process I missed?
[03:56] <Siph0n> neone have issues with a NEC burner burning slower than its suppose to ? or any dvd burner burning slower in linux than in windows?
[03:57] <_tcc> intelikey: I may be able to download the module manually.
[03:57] <_tcc> brb
[03:57] <_tcc> where the hell is my make install?
[03:58] <mustard5> _tcc, in build-essential
[03:58] <intelikey> !b-e
[03:58] <ubotu> If you get errors saying gcc cannot create executables, or that you can't find header files like stdio.h, you need to apt-get install build-essential.
[03:58] <intelikey> !build-essential
[03:58] <ubotu> intelikey: Are you on ritalin?
[03:58] <intelikey> !botsmack
[03:58] <ubotu> intelikey: What?
[03:59] <qt2> hm, just finished my first edit ever of a wiki, someone wanna make sure i didnt screw up too badly? ;)
[03:59] <_tcc> wow i never even had make....
[03:59] <_tcc> ..............
[04:00] <sorush20> no ops here right?
[04:00] <intelikey> _tcc that's what i asked ^ up there.
[04:00] <mustard5> qt2 whats the link?
[04:00] <calc> anyone know how to get xinerama working in gnome?
[04:00] <calc> gdm is showing up right but gnome is still showing as cloned
[04:00] <sorush20> guys I just wanted to find out if there are any farms I can but direct form?
[04:00] <mrkoje> does anyone know of a deb for freevo?
[04:00] <dip> anyone have experiece with cyberpowerpc.com or ibuypower.com ?? which would you buy from ?
[04:00] <Kyral> !find freevo
[04:00] <Shady> Am I supposed to do something to the file after I get it off of synaptic?
[04:01] <Kyral> Shady: it installs it for you
[04:01] <intelikey> sorush20 there are ops lurking
[04:01] <qt2> mustard5, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats i added the "symptoms" subheading of flash issues > sound, and i rearranged flash issues > sound > possible fixes to make more sense.
[04:01] <sorush20> I just wanted to ask a general question related to freeness
[04:01] <Kyral> dip: I'd buy the parts from Newegg and put it together
[04:01] <Shady> Kyral, It has for some programs but it won't for Network manager.
[04:01] <mrkoje> !freevo
[04:01] <ubotu> parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about, mrkoje
[04:02] <pbransford> anyone know about using the scanner on HP officejet all-in-one printers over network?
[04:02] <mrkoje> !find freevo
[04:02] <nowisn> can someone help me connect to the internet through a linksys laptop card
[04:02] <sorush20> any one here form london know where I can but lots of veg chaply from the farm?
[04:02] <nowisn> pcmcia
[04:02] <ubotu> Ubuntu Package/File/Desc Search of 'freevo' returned no results.
[04:02] <pbransford> i can print fine, don't care about "Instant Share". but scanning would be helpful
[04:02] <intelikey> sorush20 is that the same as saying 'i just wanted to troll a bit' ?
[04:02] <leather_n_luv> !find mc
[04:02] <oblib> How do I map drive from one Ubuntu computer to another?
[04:02] <sorush20> troll?
[04:02] <intelikey> nm
[04:02] <mrkoje> pbransford... have you tried xsane
[04:03] <Shady> Anyone have synaptic NOT install a program for them before?
[04:03] <cafuego> sorush20: Markets
[04:03] <ubotu> Ubuntu Package/File/Desc Search of 'freevo' returned no results.
[04:03] <mrkoje> oblib.. you need to "mount" the share on one ubunto machine to te other.... thats essentially mapping in widows speak
[04:03] <oblib> Shady, there are thousands of programs Synaptic hasn't installed on my computer yet
[04:03] <sorush20> any good markets in london
[04:03] <cafuego> sorush20: Look it up on google.
[04:03] <Kyral> sorush20: This is a channel for Ubuntu Supprot
[04:03] <oblib> mrkoje, how do I address it?
[04:04] <mrkoje> it needs to be shared
[04:04] <Kyral> sorush20: if you must, ask in #ubuntu-offtopic
[04:04] <rightcoast> ???
[04:04] <rightcoast> heh
[04:04] <zuka> Oh yes great markets
[04:04] <sorush20> Kyral: sorry
[04:04] <Shady> oblib, right, but I specifically d/l'ed the program and it isnt' showing up in the apps. menu.
[04:04] <VR^> where can i get the default sources.list? i didn't backup :X
[04:04] <pbransford> mrkoje, no. can xsane do networked scanning?
[04:04] <mrkoje> sudo mount -t //<IP_ADDRESS>/share  /folder/tomountin
[04:04] <oblib> Shady, that's typical -- not all progs have built in shortcuts. What program?
[04:05] <Kyral> !easysources
[04:05] <ubotu> Kyral: I haven't a clue
[04:05] <Kyral> !easysource
[04:05] <ubotu> well, easysource is For an easy to use custom sources.list configurator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[04:05] <pbransford> mrkoje, it just says "no scanners available" doesn't give me the choice to specify
[04:05] <oblib> that's what I'm looking for mrkoje, thatks
[04:05] <Shady> oblib, network-manager
[04:05] <shanonx> If i have xmms as a .tar how do I install it?
[04:05] <mustard5> qt2, looks good to me on a casual perusal :)
[04:05] <intelikey> VR^ methinks you can  sudo rm /apt/sources.list ;sudo dpkg-reconfigure apt
[04:06] <nifelseki> i have a dlink g132 wireless usb adapter.. how do i get it working in ubuntu..?
[04:06] <zuka> any sound to x-chat, new user, thanks
[04:06] <mrkoje> oblib: I think as long as your using ubuntu to ubuntu... provided that your folders are listed in the nfs config... then you should be able to mount them just fine...i think
[04:06] <d03boy> anyone use synergy? where do I put my conf file
[04:06] <mrkoje> d03boy... Im using it
[04:06] <oblib> Shady, Applications -> System Tools -> Applications Menu Editor will let you make new icons on your menu
[04:06] <oblib> the command to run it is probably just 'network-manager' I've never used that one before though
[04:07] <Urthmover> what command will show me available space on a mount point?
[04:07] <oblib> mrkoje, nfs config?
[04:07] <Kyral> Urthmover: df -h
[04:07] <Urthmover> thx
[04:07] <intelikey> shanonx you delete the tarball  and use apt-get install blah     or synaptic the gui package manager, being a noobee  :)
[04:07] <Shady> oblib, alright, I'll try it out. Thanks
[04:07] <qt2> mustard5, thanks, i tried my best to make it not suck ^.^;
[04:07] <Urthmover> well I made a mount point ..... how do I make sure it does it everytime I reboot?
[04:08] <mrkoje> oblib: Im pretty sure that you need to have nfs service running first.... "network file sharing" there is a text file that you need to add a path for your shares in.
[04:08] <Hatred[2] > hey guys I'm using xfree86, "savage" video driver and DRI isn't working. the dri module loads successfully, I have sufficient permissions to access /dev/dri/card0, but glxinfo says that dri isn't enabled. I noticed there's no savage_dri.so in the xfree libs. do I need to do something special, or should i just update to xorg?
[04:08] <oblib> mrkoje, when I try to mount it like that, it tried to samba it
[04:08] <qt2> mustard5, considering the large amount of traffic the restrictedformats page gets. ;)
[04:08] <mustard5> qt2, heh yeah
[04:08] <mrkoje> oblib:  try   sudo mount -t cifs
[04:08] <bsims> ok this isn't in the FAQ, why the blessed Hell did (k)ubuntu not enable a root account, and disable the CUPS webservice?
[04:08] <mrkoje> I don't know why but that works
[04:08] <navarone> shanonx, if it's available in binary at repo...install that way. If you have to compile from tar sources you can get frustrated beyond belief if luck is not on your side...and wind is at the back...and so on...<s>
[04:08] <mrkoje> for me
[04:09] <d03boy> mrkoje, so... where do I put the conf file :P
[04:09] <qt2> mustard5, figured i'd add in the symotoms for others, considering i spent the better part of todaty figuring out the problem :P
[04:09] <VR^> intelikey: no, that didn't work
[04:09] <VR^> intelikey: now i don't have a sources.list anymore
[04:09] <Shady> oblib, tried it and the programs aren
[04:09] <VR^> :\
[04:09] <mrkoje> d03boy: where did you install synergy?
[04:09] <leather_n_luv> is there any reason why synaptic doesn't automount the cdrom?
[04:09] <mrkoje> d03boy: or was it from apt-get?
[04:09] <d03boy> mrkoje, I dont know... I used the debian apt-get
[04:09] <mustard5> qt2, yes..I'm sure it will be helpful...thats what wikis are for anyway :)
[04:09] <intelikey> !repos
[04:09] <ubotu> well, repos is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy) see also !easysource
[04:09] <d03boy> mrkoje, actually I installed it on my debian laptop if that matters
[04:09] <mrkoje> d03boy: are you creating a server conf...  ?
[04:10] <d03boy> no
[04:10] <d03boy> windows = server
[04:10] <Shady> oblib, sorry laptop, close keys. But I tried it and it didn't show up either. where would I find the command files, I'm rather new to this file system (got linux 3 days ago)
[04:10] <intelikey> VR^ for your distros sources use ^
[04:10] <mrkoje> d03boy oh great... I don't think you even need to have a conf file.
[04:10] <russell__> looking for some help getting a usb zd1211u driver working
[04:10] <d03boy> ok
[04:10] <d03boy> mrkoje, i'll try it then
[04:10] <mrkoje> d03boy:  I think all you will need to do is run:   synergyc 192.168.xx.xx
[04:10] <oblib> Shady, easiest way is to look in synaptic and you can find the files that it installed
[04:11] <d03boy> k
[04:11] <russell__> I have it loaded with ndiswrapper but still not able to see the device in network settings
[04:11] <mrkoje> to what ever your server is... you need to run the synergyc  "client" from your laptop... you need to have the windows machine running the server first...
[04:11] <VR^> intelikey: i got it, nevermind
[04:11] <VR^> intelikey: thanks!
[04:11] <_chani> hello. i was wondering how i can install the "make" package without a cd?
[04:11] <oblib> Shady, sorry did you mean it didn't show up in your applications menu?
[04:12] <Shady> oblib, right, it doesn't show up in my applications menu, and I don't know what these new file extensions mean.
[04:12] <intelikey> VR^ can i ask if there was an error message from the dpkg-reconfigure apt   command ?
[04:12] <dooglus__> _chani: disable the cd source if you don't have the CD
[04:12] <VR^> intelikey: no error, no
[04:12] <VR^> intelikey: just nothing happened
[04:12] <_chani> dooglus__: from synaptic?
[04:12] <dooglus__> _chani: yes.
[04:12] <_chani> ty
[04:12] <intelikey> and you are on breezy ?
[04:12] <_tcc> ls
[04:13] <VR^> intelikey: yep
[04:13] <nowisn> can someone help me to get ubuntu to recognize my eth0 network card?
[04:13] <_tcc> oh not a term sry
[04:13] <_tcc> lol
[04:13] <dooglus__> _chani: or edit /etc/apt/sources.list directly if you prefer.  "sudo gedit /etc/apt/source.list"
[04:13] <intelikey> hmmmm
[04:13] <oblib> Shady, so you did "New Entry" in the subsection you wanted? And then what?
[04:13] <nifelseki> hi guys.. problem.. i just installed ubuntu.. i have a dlink g132 wireless usb adapter.. how do i get it working..?
[04:13] <dooglus__> _chani: I missed an 's'
[04:14] <Razor-X> nifelseki: you have a model slightly better than mine
[04:14] <intelikey> !wifi
[04:14] <ubotu> wifi is probably https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WiFiHowto
[04:14] <shanonx> is there a way to setup XMMS so that it will always be the "default player for mp3's"?
[04:14] <yuri> hello, just a wuick question: when I mount a drive it shows up on my desktop as an icon. How do I prevent the icon from showing?
[04:14] <VR^> i just pasted this into /etc/apt/ and it works
[04:14] <yuri> quick*
[04:14] <nifelseki> the g122 performs just as well
[04:14] <Razor-X> nifelseki: you can try your hand at the rlink2570 drivers that seem to work famously for some people, but don't work for others (like me), or you can use ndiswrapper
[04:14] <acidmoon> hello
[04:14] <d03boy> omfg, this is awesome!
[04:14] <acidmoon> has anyone here used debian ?
[04:14] <Razor-X> acidmoon: many, I imagine
[04:14] <dooglus__> yuri: I uninstalled the nautilus package.  that fixed it for me, but may be too big a step for you
[04:14] <markasdf> a
[04:15] <yuri> dooglus_: its too much to bother tu uninstall nautilus
[04:15] <Flashmatt> I have a BIG problem guys/gals where can I paste my output online for display purposes
[04:15] <Flashmatt> ?
[04:15] <xspades> pastebin.com
[04:15] <dooglus__> yuri: it's one command
[04:15] <Hatred[2] > hey guys I'm using xfree86, "savage" video driver and DRI isn't working. the dri module loads successfully, I have sufficient permissions to access /dev/dri/card0, but glxinfo says that dri isn't enabled. I noticed there's no savage_dri.so in the xfree libs. do I need to do something special, or should i just update to xorg?
[04:15] <intelikey> acidmoon yes, and technically you are using a varient of it now.
[04:15] <Razor-X> !ndiswrapper
[04:15] <ubotu> somebody said ndiswrapper was a way to support Windows wireless drivers, but it is buggy compared to native support. More info at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HowToSetUpNdiswrapper
[04:15] <mrkoje> d03boy I guess you got it working?
[04:15] <yuri> dooglus_: but its also my filebrowser...
[04:15] <brett> I assigned a keyboard shortcut to do volume up and volume down and it isn't changing the volume on the right mixer, where can i change that?
[04:15] <dooglus__> yuri: fair enough.
[04:16] <d03boy> mrkoje, yes, thanks
[04:16] <nifelseki> thanks guys.. i'll look into it
[04:16] <pbransford> arg. freaking firefox needs to stop hanging while waiting DNS replies
[04:16] <mrkoje> d03boy: I really like the synergy app.... makes my life better :)
[04:16] <intelikey> !start a distro war
[04:16] <ubotu> I haven't a clue, intelikey
[04:16] <Flashmatt> thanks
[04:16] <d03boy> mine too now :P
[04:16] <_chani> dooglus__: thanks. i got it
[04:16] <intelikey> !start an editor war
[04:16] <ubotu> vim is better than xemacs.
[04:16] <nowisn> Yo guys why is kubuntu not recognizing my linksys lappy card?
[04:16] <dooglus__> _chani: what's the answer?
[04:17] <navarone> yuri> Use Applications/Systemtools/Config Editor...Apps/Nautilus//Desktop...uncheck "make volumes visible" and drive icons should disappear
[04:17] <dabaR> shanonx: did you figure it out?
[04:17] <dooglus__> _chani: sorry. I was mixing you up with yuri :)
[04:17] <navarone> yuri...at least from desktop
[04:18] <Razor-X> just for all of you out there who don't know what tab-complete is: type in the first few letters of a person's name and hit TAB to have it auto-complete, just a friendly reminder :)
[04:18] <_chani> dooglus__: heh. i was kinda wondering what the question was..
[04:18] <Xenguy> Has anyone here used 'tsclient'?  I'm wondering if it is able to serve as a client for citrix also?
[04:19] <dabaR> nowisn: the manufacturer did not release specs, and you did not install the windows drivers using ndiswrapper, perhaps?
[04:19] <dooglus__> Razor-X: where do you mean to type the person's name?
[04:19] <Razor-X> dooglus__: in IRC, rather
[04:19] <dooglus__> Razor-X: oh, I see :)
[04:19] <mrkoje> dabaR, was it you I got into a fight with about iptables not being run by default on ubuntu?
[04:20] <nowisn> no I didn't install anything yet
[04:20] <shanonx> dabaR: yes thank you
[04:20] <intelikey> razor-X  you could have mentioned that tab-completion works in console/terminal also  :)
[04:20] <dabaR> mrkoje: I dont get into fights over things like that.
[04:20] <mrkoje> dabaR, ok.. lol
[04:20] <Razor-X> intelikey: bah, it was just for the number of people who didn't seem to be using tab-complete
[04:20] <dabaR> mrkoje: If I know something for a fact, then I dont get into a fight over it.
[04:20] <dabaR> mrkoje: beliefs, opinions, sometimes.
[04:21] <dooglus__> intelikey: especially if you uncomment the lines in ~/.bashrc about 'completion' - it gets a lot smarter if you do that.
[04:21] <intelikey> exactly my point razor-x
[04:21] <Razor-X> now... if someone wants to help me with Japanese, I would appreciate it if you hopped on over to #ubuntu-offtopic and gave me a discourse, but I'll take my leave
[04:21] <dabaR> why are they not uncomented by dwefault?>
[04:21] <guido_> This may be the most amusing thing you all hear ALL day... I am relatively new to Linux and bash, but i know enough to get in trouble.. i wanted to ADD permissions to my /etc folder, so I did a chmod, but instead of increasing, i chmodd'd to 700.... and locked myself out of my own /etc file.. my face became white as could be.. luckily, i'm not SO dumb that i remembered the recovery console.. but what a hoot!
[04:21] <nowisn> I'm a total newbie at this and tryed to get my connection through kppp dialup but my modem will not be recognized so i thought i'd plug in my pcmcia linksys card in my lappy and connect it to my dsl router
[04:22] <mrkoje> watashi wah nihongo ga skoshi wakadimas
[04:22] <intelikey> dooglus__ but of course,  hehhe lets not have them rebuild the whole system just yet though  :)
[04:22] <guido_> two line limit.
[04:22] <Razor-X> dooglus__: BASH has smart tab completion, I'm surprised
[04:22] <mrkoje> thats my attempt at horrible romanji
[04:22] <dooglus__> Razor-X: it's programmable
[04:22] <guido_> crap. i was telling my HILARIOUS adventure.
[04:22] <Razor-X> mrkoje: I was looking for you
[04:22] <dabaR> nowisn: do "ifconfig" in a terminal, tell us what you see there.
[04:22] <monkievox> howdy all!  how can i tell from command line what version of kernal i have?
[04:22] <mrkoje> Razor-X, I am affraid thats all I know... i did live in Japan for three years though
[04:22] <Razor-X> mrkoje: I'm a bit better, but not too much, at romaji (or roomaji, or romanji, whatever the hell you call it)
[04:22] <Falstius> monkievox: uname
[04:23] <monkievox> falstius: danke!
[04:23] <guido_> FUNNY STORY: i am an idiot. i sudo chmodd'd my /etc folder to 700... i learned a valuable lesson.. .don't do that. hah!
[04:23] <Falstius> monkievox: bitte.
[04:23] <nowisn> how do i type that in correctly
[04:23] <dooglus__> guido_: the lesson is to use letters instead of numbers when using chmod
[04:23] <Flashmatt22> i don't know what that means, but it sounds funny!
[04:24] <Flashmatt22> actually, I do
[04:24] <dabaR> nowisn: "ifconfig" (with fingers)_
[04:24] <dooglus__> guido_: do a "chmod g+w" for instance to give Write to the Group
[04:24] <intelikey> guido_ i see you learn by the trial and reformat method also  :)
[04:24] <guido_> oh wow.. i was memorizing the numbers.. i wasn't aware chmod would accept letters... as i said.. i'm a foolish boy.. but it was SO fun..
[04:24] <guido_> actually, i was able to change it in the recovery console.. i wasn't gonna give this perfect install up!
[04:24] <fulld> on a new install I get 80% Xorg usage on an idle system
[04:25] <fulld> any clues?
[04:25] <mrkoje> guido_,  rwxrwxrwx.... somthing like that
[04:25] <fulld> *cpu usage
[04:25] <mrkoje> owner, group, user isn't it?
[04:25] <intelikey> guido_  type  "man man "   in a terminal
[04:25] <nowisn> says: (sudo: unable to lookup ubuntu via gethostbyname)
[04:25] <dabaR> owner group everybody
[04:25] <Ophiocus> owner group other
[04:25] <guido_> Flash: I told my computer not to let me in to the files... everything came to a grinding halt..
[04:25] <dabaR> aka, owner group crackers
[04:26] <leather_n_luv> lol
[04:26] <intelikey> hehhe  owner group world   :)
[04:26] <Flashmatt22> ohhhhh!!!
[04:26] <guido_> yah.. i know how to learn how to do things right, but it's so much more fun to plunge into murky water...
[04:26] <mrkoje> right... owner group users
[04:26] <Flashmatt22> totally didn't see the "00" part of "700"!!!
[04:26] <mustard5> nowisn, sounds like you need to fix up your /etc/hosts file
[04:26] <Kyral> Owner Group Othert
[04:26] <ma5terdp> hay can anyone help me still haveing troubless!!!
[04:26] <ma5terdp> hay kyral i got a drive mounted but filesystem is read only how do i change it?
[04:26] <mrkoje> ma5terdp,  what troubles?
[04:27] <acidmoon> do you have multiple os's ?
[04:27] <Ophiocus> if filesystem is ntfs, you cant
[04:27] <dooglus__> Kyral: User Group Others is a better way to think of it - then you'll remember the letters to use ugo+rwx...
[04:27] <ma5terdp> its hfsplus
[04:27] <acidmoon> right Ophiocus
[04:27] <mlv2005> good day can i install an autocad here at ubuntu
[04:27] <intelikey> mount -o remount,rw </mount/point>
[04:27] <nowisn> yeah okay, holly crap i really don't know what i'm doing
[04:27] <Kyral> dooglus__: I actually prefer the Number system
[04:27] <nowisn> how do i do that
[04:27] <dooglus__> Kyral: me too
[04:27] <acidmoon> you may need to create a new partition and install again ma5terdp
[04:27] <ma5terdp> r u talkin to me intelikey
[04:27] <Flashmatt22> ok friends, I'm having a BIG problem with getting WEP to work with a WMP11v4 linksys wireless card!!!
[04:27] <dabaR> nowisn: do you know how to open a terminal, konsole, you use kde?
[04:28] <Flashmatt22> anyone get one of these working???
[04:28] <dooglus__> Kyral: chmod didn't used to accept letters when I first started using it...
[04:28] <mlv2005> can anybody help me can i install the autocad here at ubuntu
[04:28] <ma5terdp> i know the users name and password of filesystem cant i somehow log on it
[04:28] <leather_n_luv> ma5terdp, there are tools to download for ntfs. search for 'ntfs' in synaptic...
[04:28] <nowisn> yeah its open
[04:28] <ma5terdp> its not ntfs
[04:28] <ma5terdp> its hfs+
[04:28] <nowisn> not stupid
[04:28] <intelikey> yes  but i don't have all the info on your system ma5terdp
[04:28] <dabaR> nowisn: type "ifconfig" hit enter.
[04:28] <Flashmatt22> I'm completely out of ideas...the boards are helpful...to an extent
[04:28] <mrkoje> mlv2005,  you need to search for an autocad program on somthing like sourceforge or freshmeat
[04:28] <ma5terdp> ok intellikey its a mac osx
[04:28] <proxosi> can somone guide me on http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=90106
[04:29] <nowisn> don't get anything when i type that
[04:29] <mlv2005> what do you mean mrkoje
[04:29] <leather_n_luv> ma5terdp, oh, sorry.  what os is it?
[04:29] <ma5terdp> its /dev/hda2/ i got it mounted to /media/mac
[04:29] <dabaR> nowisn: ok.
[04:29] <intelikey> ma5terdp you asked how to make a fs mounted ro rw so i gave the command.
[04:29] <Xenguy> OK, a different question, has anyone here had luck installing a working citrix client on breezy/ubuntu ?
[04:29] <leather_n_luv> (damn i type slow
[04:29] <shanonx> can someone show me an example of how to change the permissions on a file?
[04:29] <leather_n_luv> )
[04:29] <dabaR> shanonx: man chmod
[04:29] <Xenguy> shanonx: chmod 700 directory
[04:29] <Kyral> shanonx: I think my Terminal FOr Beginners lays it out
[04:29] <Kyral> Xenguy: NO!!!
[04:29] <Xenguy> shanonx: chmod 600 file
[04:29] <Xenguy> Kyral: no what?
[04:29] <Kyral> Xenguy: Not that setup lol
[04:30] <ma5terdp> can u change permissions on a mount hda?
[04:30] <mrkoje> mlv2005, http://www.sourceforge.net  or http://www.freshmeat.net
[04:30] <wij> chmod -R -v 757 /home/user/myfile
[04:30] <Xenguy> Kyral: are you on crack?
[04:30] <shanonx> Kyral: yea Im looking at it but the tutoral doesnt really show a command example.
[04:30] <intelikey> shanonx 'man chmod '       example  'chmod 600 .bashrc '
[04:30] <Kyral> shanonx: It doesn't?
[04:30] <Kyral> shanonx: Hmm I should add one lol
[04:30] <Falstius> ma5terdp: yes, mount -t hfs -o remount,rw /dev/hda /mnt/spot
[04:30] <Kyral> shanonx: I thought I put one in
[04:30] <shanonx> kyral: it shows the number and breaks it down like... 750.. but no actual command line example.
[04:30] <Falstius> but I don't know if there is hfs write support
[04:31] <guido_> this is great.. this is the night of permissions!
[04:31] <Kyral> shanonx: Gmm I'll take care of it
[04:31] <Kyral> gimme a sec mkay?
[04:31] <oblib> How do I map drive from one Ubuntu computer to another?
[04:31] <nowisn> mustard how do i change or configure the /etc/hosts
[04:31] <oblib> mrkoje, I don't get nfs
[04:32] <guido_> shanon-- i just had my own exciting experience with chmod tonight.. be careful what you change!!!
[04:32] <shanonx> kyral: when I use this " sudo chmod -r -v 770 Backup
[04:32] <shanonx> " I get an error.. is it wrong?
[04:32] <ULffuntu> hi, does anybody here use webmin & xinetd?
[04:32] <Falstius> shanonx: -R not -r
[04:32] <ma5terdp> ok will that give me a non readonly filesystem hd?
[04:32] <Kyral> shanonx: and conbine the -r -v into -rv
[04:32] <nowisn> yes I've installed the kubuntu distro with KDE
[04:32] <shanonx> oh
[04:32] <intelikey> shanonx everything *nix is case sensitive
[04:33] <dabaR> nowisn: it has a man entry, if you feel like reading. man /etc/hosts
[04:33] <navarone> guido...dpkg reconfgiure x server thingy blew me out of the water tonight...sudo cp is handy command to have
[04:33] <shanonx> intelikey: yea so im slowly seeing :)
[04:33] <shanonx> I really thank all you guys for your help.
[04:34] <navarone> guido> I was trying to reconfigure to give myself refresh options for monitor. Things went bad...:)
[04:34] <guido_> do you have to sudo to run the configurator? i guess you would.. i tend to get to lazy and start sudo'ing everything... gets me in trouble!
[04:34] <Falstius> ma5terdp: what I wrote?  It should, if there is write support for it.
[04:34] <ma5terdp> ok quick question.... it says i am not owner so i cant
[04:34] <Falstius> ma5terdp: use sudo
[04:34] <Falstius> I am always forgetting to include sudo in my example commands.
[04:34] <navarone> guido>had to fix mouse then eventually simply cp'ed backup to default one...phew
[04:34] <Shady> I need a little guidance, synaptic says I have a program installed but it isn't in my applications menu, how do I put it there, where do I look?
[04:35] <dabaR> wow, eminem uses Ubuntu
[04:35] <Falstius> Shady, you can right click on "Applications" and select edit menu.
[04:35] <guido_> duh
[04:35] <proxosi> can somebody guide me http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=90106
[04:35] <intelikey> shanonx actually   -R and 7 are not really such a good idea.  that makes all files executable.    dirs need to be executable but  html and other document files being executed may (and likely) cause problems.
[04:35] <guido_> slimshadybuntu
[04:35] <proxosi> guido_lol
[04:35] <Falstius> Shady: Then you have to find the program, it is probably  in /usr/bin
[04:35] <ma5terdp> is there a way i can enter a name and password of owner of filesystem on mount???
[04:36] <dabaR> Falstius: no, you need to ask, what program shady?
[04:36] <nowisn> got <IP_ADDRESS> localhost in the terminal
[04:36] <shanonx> inetlikey: oh... hmm... fixing this might be time consuming now...
[04:36] <dabaR> nowisn: for what?
[04:36] <Shady> dabaR, it's network manager.
[04:36] <dabaR> Shady: what is the package called in synaptic?
[04:37] <Kyral> shanonx: check now
[04:37] <nowisn> thats all it says
[04:37] <Shady> network-manager
[04:37] <guido_> to self: must stay and read ubuntu chat room... must not sleep... no need to go to work in the morning.... snow will come... must not fall asle...........
[04:37] <mlv2005> what is iptables can anybody explain
[04:37] <Falstius> ma5terdp: why do you need a user and password?
[04:37] <ajmitch> guido_: why read stuff here? sleep is good :)
[04:37] <dabaR> Shady: well, do you have smeg installed?
[04:37] <intelikey> shanonx this might help
[04:37] <Falstius> mlv2005: iptables lists and sets the rules for the firewall.
[04:38] <sdafjdif> hey can anyone help me out
[04:38] <mlv2005> oh i see where can i dowload a tutorial about it
[04:38] <sdafjdif> i tried to install inux
[04:38] <sdafjdif> *Ubuntu
[04:38] <Shady> dabaR, using it right now.
[04:38] <sdafjdif> i got a debootstrap error
[04:38] <sdafjdif> i had to abort
[04:38] <sdafjdif> and now when i turn on my computer
[04:38] <sdafjdif> it won't boot to windows
[04:38] <sdafjdif> or linux
[04:38] <Falstius> mlv2005: search on google for howto iptable
[04:38] <sdafjdif> but just a black screen
[04:38] <dabaR> Shady: are you able to add an entry yet?
[04:38] <fr500> hello
[04:38] <joedj> hey folks, i'm using kubuntu, why does it beep after i hold shift for 4sec or so?
[04:38] <guido_> ajwitch> this is my new soap opera... if i miss something i'll never be able to live with myself.. but if i don't sleep all those poor kids won't get their goofy guidance man tomorrow ... what a conundrubuntum.
[04:38] <fr500> has anyone followed the gdm vnc guide
[04:39] <fr500> it doesn't work for me :(
[04:39] <dabaR> sdafjdif: yes, it all got borked up, and the boot sector is screwed. repair mbr for windows, or try reinstalling Ubuntu.
[04:39] <ajmitch> guido_: this channel isn't nearly as interesting as some of the others
[04:39] <sdafjdif> dabar, how would i do that
[04:39] <intelikey> joedj loading the key buffer maybe ?
[04:39] <guido_> aj: this is my first taste of the crack.. i'll go more hard core one day
[04:40] <joedj> intelikey: loading the key buffer?
[04:40] <Shady> dabaR, I don't know what i'm look for truthfully. I've been on linux 3 days
[04:40] <Falstius> sdafjdif: find a windows98 boot disk (you can get them off the web), boot it and type fdisk /mbr
[04:40] <intelikey> joedj like holding any other key...
[04:40] <dabaR> sdafjdif: the first option? I dont know, I dont use windows any more, and the only time I had to do it, I decided not to, and reinstalled windows.(I had separate partitions for data and programs.
[04:40] <alekz> anyonw knows a package to mix music ?
[04:40] <proxosi> would renaming winamp skins to xmms extension.. will make it compatible with xmms?
[04:40] <joedj> intelikey: ah. no, i don't think it's that, KDE actually plays some weird sound file
[04:40] <ULffuntu> mlv2005: what was your question?
[04:40] <dabaR> Shady: you have smeg open?
[04:40] <guido_> wouldn't you try fixmbr before you fdisked? or am i not paying close enought attn?
[04:40] <intelikey> alekz audacity
[04:40] <sdafjdif> well i've got a Windows XP System Restore CD
[04:41] <ma5terdp> ok listen quick question people
[04:41] <alekz> intelikey, easy to use ?
[04:41] <sdafjdif> how would i get to the command prompt?
[04:41] <Falstius> alekz: there was a nice review on ArsTechnica a few weeks back comparing different music mastering software packages.
[04:41] <dabaR> alekz: a program with two turntables and a mixer?
[04:41] <ma5terdp> here is what i am using to mount i think it wrong
[04:41] <Falstius> sdafjdif: that won't do it.  you'll probably just destroy the system with it.
[04:41] <Shady> dabaR, yeah
[04:41] <sdafjdif> oh
[04:41] <alekz> yes dabaR xD
[04:41] <dabaR> sdafjdif: select to repair installation.
[04:41] <Falstius> beware the XP recovery CD.
[04:41] <ma5terdp> sudo mount /dev/hda2 -t hfsplus /media/mac
[04:41] <ma5terdp> is there a way to make it so its not just a read only
[04:41] <intelikey> alekz i don't do much multimedia so i really aint the one to ask...
[04:42] <Falstius> dabaR: every time I've done that it made the system virtually unusable or borked the registry.
[04:42] <sdafjdif> repair installation in the Ubuntu CD?
[04:42] <sdafjdif> i'm not really worried about getting ubuntu as of now.
[04:42] <sdafjdif> i'd like it...but right now, i just want to make sure all my stuff is still there win windows
[04:42] <sdafjdif> *in
[04:43] <nowisn> okay i open the shell konsole and i get christopher@ubuntu :~$ ,   then i type ifconfig and it just repeats back to the original above
[04:43] <ma5terdp> anyone???
[04:43] <Falstius> sdafjdif: does the computer have a floppy drive?
[04:43] <dabaR> alekz: I used mixxx
[04:43] <sdafjdif> yes it does
[04:43] <wij> ip addr
[04:43] <junior> Hello everyone.
[04:43] <ULffuntu> hi, does anybody here use webmin & xinetd?
[04:43] <alekz> dabaR, how cool is it ?
[04:44] <dabaR> alekz: it did what I wanted(I wanted to slow down a song.)
[04:44] <junior> just wondering if there is a nw802 module for ubuntu breezy badger?
[04:44] <shanonx> intelikey: so to use that script i need to be in my backup directory?
[04:44] <fr500> can i access an ltsp-server from a windows box?
[04:44] <dabaR> Shady: is there a add button
[04:44] <alekz> ok dabaR thanks
[04:44] <intelikey> nowisn in linux 'no error message' means 'no error'   and  'no output'  may or may not mean 'nothing done' depending on the command.
[04:44] <Falstius> sdafjdif: http://www.bootdisk.com/bootdisk.htm
[04:44] <Falstius> go there, download one of those
[04:44] <ma5terdp> anyone konw the best way to mount a hda someone told me here funktown and it worked now it wont
[04:44] <intelikey> shanonx yeah
[04:45] <Shady> dabaR, yes
[04:45] <junior> mount /dev/hda1 /directory
[04:45] <ma5terdp> but i keep gettin a read only filesystem
[04:45] <intelikey> shanonx set all files 644 or something then run the script to make the dirs right.
[04:45] <shanonx> intelikey: what exatly does it do...?
[04:45] <russell__> can someone tell me how to use make command? I keep getting command not found
[04:45] <sdafjdif> Falstius, which one would i download?
[04:45] <ma5terdp> i need it to be rightable be able to move shit
[04:45] <junior> what kind of filesystem is it?
[04:45] <ma5terdp> hfsplus
[04:45] <shanonx> intelikey: ok
[04:45] <Falstius> sdafjdif: I'm not sure :)  Probably win98 oem
[04:45] <nowisn> ok
[04:45] <La_PaRCa> hey guys, im getting an error when I try to run ipodder: http://pastebin.ubuntulinux.nl/5534
[04:45] <russell__> it is 5.10
[04:45] <ma5terdp> funkytown gave me the correct command and i forgot it it worked once 2 day
[04:45] <dabaR> Shady: open a terminal, try typing in network-manager
[04:46] <junior> hfsplus? what os uses that?
[04:46] <Falstius> sdafjdif: you need one that includes fdisk
[04:46] <ma5terdp> mac x os
[04:46] <ledh> hey room!
[04:46] <alekz> dabaR, you installed from source ?
[04:46] <dabaR> alekz: ya, it had some dependencies, I think called jackd.
[04:46] <ledh> i wanna know what prog can i use to download music that's not too heavy on my pc...
[04:46] <Shady> dabaR, it says not found, but in synaptics it says installed.
[04:46] <Falstius> I don't have a floppy or windows, so not much use for a windows boot disk :)
[04:46] <dabaR> Shady: that is normal.
[04:46] <Flashmatt22> hey, I have the weirdest question ever, does anyone know how to install a Voodoo3 3dfx driver onto ubuntu?
[04:46] <intelikey> shanonx it fixes the directories recursively (actually chmod 777 them)  but leaves the files alone.   you can edit it to something like 751  or 700 or what ever you want......
[04:47] <dooglus> ledh: ftp is quite lightweight
[04:47] <oblib> Question: What's a good lightweight X www browser?
[04:47] <russell__> I am trying to get driver working for my wlan usb I have the driver but cant use the make command
[04:47] <fr500> has anyone followed the gdm vnc guide? doesn't work for me
[04:47] <nomasteryoda|w> dillo?
[04:47] <Falstius> Flashmatt22: it isn't automatically supported?
[04:47] <La_PaRCa> hey guys, im getting an error when I try to run ipodder: http://pastebin.ubuntulinux.nl/5534
[04:47] <junior> ok, you should do : mount /dev/hda1 -t hfs /directory
[04:47] <Flashmatt22> Falstius: well, I can't change the screen resolution from 640, so there must be something wrong
[04:47] <ledh> dooglus: how do i download it? :S
[04:47] <pat> How do I set a printer to share using Samba?
[04:47] <nomasteryoda|w> oblib, that was for you.... dillo is pretty good
[04:47] <dooglus> ledh: it's already installed I think
[04:48] <intelikey> shanonx i one time learned the hard way not to use chmod -R  and wrote that to help recover from blunders like that.
[04:48] <guido_> good bootdisk for NTFS and FAT(32) is Michael Au-Yeung's Pre-installation environment.. i use it for all kinds of stuff.. it's a bootable CD/DVD .. look on a torrent site...
[04:48] <ma5terdp> hfs dont work hfsplus does
[04:48] <ledh> dooglus: in Ubuntu?
[04:48] <dooglus> ledh: or wget or curl aren't heavy either
[04:48] <slashx1896> Hey all
[04:48] <Falstius> Flashmatt22: ahh. *shrug*
[04:48] <junior> so you do: mount /dev/hda1 -t hfsplus ?
[04:48] <ma5terdp> yup n it works
[04:48] <ma5terdp> i get a mount but its read only
[04:48] <ledh> what are the commands to download them?
[04:48] <oblib> nomasteryoda, I'll give it a whirl thanks
[04:49] <starscalling> eh
[04:49] <starscalling> whats this about a readonly mount?
[04:49] <pat> How do I set a printer to share using Samba?
[04:49] <dooglus> ledh: I think they're all already installed.  otherwise you can use synaptic package manager to get them
[04:49] <Flashmatt22> Falstius: I already downloaded some linux rpms...aliened it...then i did dpkg -i blah.deb, do you know what happened?
[04:49] <La_PaRCa> Whats the best tool to get podcasts in ubuntu?
[04:49] <Falstius> ma5terdp: can you type "mount" and paste the line for the hfsplus drive?
[04:49] <starscalling> ma5terdp?
[04:49] <intelikey> ledh wget ip.file
[04:49] <oblib> fr500, what are you trying to do?
[04:49] <starscalling> what are you mounting?
[04:49] <shanonx> intelikey: see... that Backup directory is actually on a drive that is Fat32 .. being shared by my windows and linux partitons... I wanted access to write so that I could add mp3s to it at times.
[04:49] <Flashmatt22> Falstius: I'm a newb to debian, I was using Fedora previously
[04:49] <starscalling> Flashmatt22 this is not debian
[04:49] <Falstius> Flashmatt22: aliened drivers?  That's got to be messy.
[04:49] <starscalling> this is ubuntu which is based on debian
[04:49] <fr500> oblib: xdmcp over vnc, so i can login from a vnc client for instance
[04:49] <starscalling> but is a valid fork from same :)
[04:49] <Flashmatt22> I konw it's not debian
[04:50] <starscalling> kay :D
[04:50] <ma5terdp> yeah im hreer
[04:50] <Flashmatt22> geez, isn't this stuff built on debian??
[04:50] <guido_> is "Sarge" the only "official" debian distro?
[04:50] <ma5terdp> here
[04:50] <intelikey> shanonx then you waste your time with chmod on fat anyway.   there is no permissions on that fs
[04:50] <Flashmatt22> I'm using ubuntu bottom line...so I wasn't supposed to use alien?
[04:50] <starscalling> again its a fork from it so you can usually use debian packages for things you cant get from ubuntu sources
[04:50] <fr500> oblib: this
[04:50] <Shady> dabaR, any ideas?
[04:50] <fr500> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=76638
[04:50] <dooglus> guido_: no, there are older debian releases.  woody for example
[04:50] <junior> ma5terdp: do you get any errors when you thry to mount it?
[04:50] <ma5terdp> i need an extra option in the commmand to make it not and readonly
[04:50] <intelikey> shanonx mount it with umask=0  and you can read/write vfat
[04:50] <ledh> it doesn't word
[04:50] <ma5terdp> no errors when i mount it
[04:51] <guido_> yah - i just meant.. yeah..
[04:51] <starscalling> 99% of the time its ok to do
[04:51] <oblib> fr500, so it opens a new X session when you vnc in, or to get to the main one you have up already?
[04:51] <ledh> work*
[04:51] <Falstius> ma5terdp: have you tried writting to it using sudo?  try "sudo touch /mntpoint/testfile"
[04:51] <ma5terdp> it mounts i get it  but cant do anything 2 it
[04:51] <fr500> oblib: new one
[04:51] <Flashmatt22> Room: where do installed packages go...as in where are their folders located when I install a .deb package?
[04:51] <Falstius> ma5terdp: where /mntpoint is whereever you mount it.
[04:51] <intelikey> shanonx example  'sudo mount -o remount,rw,umask=0 backup '
[04:52] <starscalling> ma5terdp im sorry im catching up but what are you mounting exactly?
[04:52] <dooglus> Flashmatt22: they go wherever the package creator wants them to go.   dpkg -L <packagename>    will tell you where
[04:52] <guido_> g'nite all.
[04:52] <oblib> fr500, let me know if you figure it out, I've been trying to get that to work for a bit now
[04:52] <DjKritical> is there a teamspeak repostory avaliable for ubuntu?
[04:52] <pat> How do I set a printer to share using Samba?
[04:52] <fr500> oblib: that exact guide?
[04:53] <Flashmatt22> dooglus: Thanks, which brings me to another question, how do I install rpms without using alien, b/c I guess using alien didn't quite work
[04:53] <Falstius> Flashmatt22: you should really try to find .deb packages or compile from source.
[04:53] <oblib> fr500, no, I did a server install and was trying to get anything to come up. All I got was a twm session, which isn't very useful. I wanted something lighter than gnome though
[04:53] <fr500> hm
[04:53] <Shady> dabaR, Woah what the heck... it started up on its own? is that normal?
[04:54] <pat> How do I set a printer to share using Samba?
[04:54] <oblib> fr500, where are you stuck? what's it doing?
[04:54] <ledh> i wanna know what prog can i use to download music that's not too heavy on my pc...
[04:54] <Flashmatt22> Falstius: Thanks, but I don't have many options, it being a voodoo and everything...
[04:54] <La_PaRCa> Whats a good tool to listen to podcasts on ubuntu?
[04:54] <junior> just wondering if there is a nw802 module for ubuntu breezy badger?
[04:55] <junior> It's for my dlink quickcam
[04:55] <Falstius> Flashmatt22: I wouldn't think you'd need rpm based drivers for a voodoo card.  You could probably just tweak the xorg.conf file.
[04:55] <shanonx> intelikey: so should that fix all the damage i did ?
[04:55] <starscalling> Flashmatt22 what were u trying to install?
[04:55] <intelikey> shanonx yep
[04:55] <starscalling> o:
[04:55] <msims> how do I change the default Xresoultion I've done so for kde but gdm is small
[04:55] <oblib> Any nfs experts here? I mounted a share, and it only shares one level of files!
[04:56] <intelikey> shanonx you did no damage to permissions on a vfat fs ,     there are none.
[04:56] <starscalling> msims gdm uses system default res
[04:56] <Flashmatt22> Falstius:  Where can I find the xorg.conf file?
[04:56] <starscalling> do  " sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg "
[04:56] <Flashmatt22> starscalling: I was trying to get my voodoo3 video card working
[04:56] <starscalling> Flashmatt22
[04:56] <Falstius> Flashmatt22: it looks like the voodoo3 can't go above 640x480 with 24bit colors so you need to drop the color depth
[04:56] <starscalling> /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[04:57] <intelikey> everything on vfat is rwxrwxrwx = 777  to linux.
[04:57] <Falstius> If you set the color depth to 16bit it should go higher.  Check this thread: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-75512.html
[04:57] <Flashmatt22> thnx
[04:57] <pat> no answer no joy
[04:57] <ardchoille> w00t!! My friend told me "the next time Windows crashes, you can install Linux", and Windows crashed
[04:57] <Trilom> *Need help*
[04:57] <ma5terdp> grrr anyone know funktown from in here?
[04:57] <Trilom> I am ready to install ubuntu
[04:57] <Trilom> but when i put the disks in they wont self boot
 well, 3dfx is the name of the company who makes the legendary voodoo 3D acceleration cards (see http://www.3dfx.com). There is also /dev/3dfx which is needed for glide support under X <=3.3.6 (see device3dfx-source package). It is not needed for X4, use tdfx instead. now owned by nVida.... time to start buying Matrox  :), or at #3dfx
[04:57] <shanonx> intelikey: .. oh i was just curious because after i did that, it would not allow me to view the directories inside.. after i did the 644 I mean.
[04:57] <Trilom> ive changed the boot order
[04:57] <Flashmatt22> wow, they actually have something like that on the forum?
[04:57] <starscalling> thats what debian has to say about voodoo
[04:58] <Falstius> er, fmask=111
[04:58] <Trilom> and tried 4 different disks
[04:58] <Trilom> Help?
[04:58] <ma5terdp> lol
[04:58] <jsubl2> La_PaRCa check out ipodder
[04:58] <intelikey> shanonx yeah but all you affected was the mount point.
[04:58] <Flashmatt22> thanx everyone
[04:58] <monkievox> trilom: what machine you installing on?
[04:58] <ma5terdp> hay falstius u still tehre
[04:58] <La_PaRCa> jsubl2, im having troubles starting it
[04:58] <Falstius> Flashmatt22: linux folks love old hardware
[04:58] <La_PaRCa> jsubl2,  hey guys, im getting an error when I try to run ipodder: http://pastebin.ubuntulinux.nl/5534
[04:58] <intelikey> chmod 755 backup and you've fixed it.
[04:59] <Falstius> ma5terdp: yes, but there is a very pretty woman who wants me to go to bed soon.
[04:59] <dabaR> Trilom: a PC?
[04:59] <starscalling> Trilom did you check bios boot options?
[04:59] <fr500> oblib: i did evrything, but it doesnt work at all
[04:59] <ma5terdp> lol i undertsand
[04:59] <Trilom> yes starscalling
[04:59] <oblib> fr500, but what does it do? do you have an xsession-errors or anything?
[04:59] <jsubl2> La_PaRCa, i am on dapper and i don't get that error
[04:59] <fr500> nothing
[04:59] <shanonx> intelikey: oh ok.. i couldnt get what you said about mount remount Backup to work, but I got it fixed... used "sudo mount -a" to reload my fstab
[04:59] <starscalling> then like they said what are you installing it on?
[04:59] <fr500> oblib: and if i run an nmap at that pc no vnc ports are open
[04:59] <Reload1691> anyone know of a good mp3 player for linux?
[04:59] <La_PaRCa> jsubl2, um
[05:00] <intelikey> shanonx do you have full access to the files now ?
[05:00] <jsubl2> La_PaRCa, but i am not recommending dapper it is unstable
[05:00] <oblib> fr500, so vncserver is not running then? Do you have it in the boot process somewhere?
[05:00] <La_PaRCa> jsubl2, I know :)
[05:01] <La_PaRCa> jsubl2, any idea?
[05:01] <dabaR> .msg ubotu info ipodder
[05:01] <fr500> oblib: it starts with xinetd i guess since there is nothing more in the howto
[05:01] <oblib> fr500, is the computer on the same network, or is it going through firewalls/routers?
[05:01] <jsubl2> La_PaRCa, no
[05:01] <Trilom> Help anyoen?
[05:01] <hd420> help!
[05:02] <fr500> oblib: same lan now
[05:02] <Falstius> g'night all
[05:02] <jsubl2> La_PaRCa, it starts for me.. iam trying to get a feed to play
[05:02] <monkievox> Trilom: how old is the machine you are installing on?
[05:02] <hd420> apache's being an arsehole
[05:02] <fr500> oblib: not that noob :p
[05:02] <dabaR> Trilom: is it a PC?
[05:02] <La_PaRCa> jsubl2, I can see one other post about the same issue on the forum, but no answers
[05:02] <hd420> hoary
[05:02] <oblib> fr500, lol. So can you try to start in manually on the server?
[05:03] <ma5terdp> anyone help me with an read-only filesystem error i get??/
[05:03] <fr500> how?
[05:03] <oblib> fr500, or look at processes and see if it's running
[05:03] <hd420> erver: 8:02pm % sudo apt-get install apache                  [/usr/local/conf] Reading package lists... DoneBuilding dependency tree... Doneapache is already the newest version.0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 6 not upgraded.1 not fully installed or removed.Need to get 0B of archives.After unpacking 0B of additional disk space will be used.Setting up apache (1.3.33-4ubuntu1) ...dpkg: error processing apache (--configure): sub
[05:03] <fr500> i didnt see it
[05:03] <oblib> fr500, ps -e | grep vnc  to look. 'vncserver'
[05:03] <Goldfish> My /etc/resolv.conf file doesn't seem to be resolving anything. I can only get out on the internet by IP address. Router is okay, because my debian stations can get out.
[05:03] <shanonx> intelikey: yea i have full access ... but it seemed to make all my text fiels executables too..
[05:03] <oblib> fr500, vncserver by itself should start something
[05:03] <Goldfish> /etc/nsswitch.conf looks identical between both machines.
[05:03] <msims> damn I reconfigured xorg but it still wants to use the huge screen
[05:04] <dabaR> msims: put refresh rates for you rmonitor manually into the file.
[05:04] <Trilom> intel pent 2
[05:04] <cdubya> hi
[05:04] <jsubl2> La_PaRCa, it does work
[05:04] <Trilom> 448 mb of ram
[05:04] <Trilom> dell
[05:04] <shanonx> intelike: but everything seems to work ok.. so I guess its good..
[05:04] <Trilom> optiplex
[05:04] <monkievox> Trilom: you'll need to boot from floppy
[05:04] <dabaR> Trilom: turn off booting from anything but the cd.
[05:05] <fr500> oblib: let me do the whole thing again since i undid everything
[05:05] <Trilom> kk
[05:05] <ma5terdp> anyone know how to make and non read-only filesystem mount ????????
[05:05] <monkievox> Trilom: is that what you've been trying? or from CD?
[05:05] <shanonx> intelike: But Time for bed, for me.... thank you for all your help, Probably see you tomorrow when I take on some new things!
[05:05] <msims> dabaR: its fine once it listens to kde the problem is that gdm isn't fuckign listneing to the default and insists on using the largest res
[05:05] <Trilom> i got it set to boot from cd and if nothigns there then go to the drive
[05:05] <rossnolgrad> I installed curl with synaptic and cant find the app
[05:06] <monkievox> Trilom: old pcs sometimes have trouble booting from CD even though bios says they can.
[05:06] <dabaR> msims: you added the rates to the xorg.conf file?
[05:06] <Goldfish> Well, it's now working. I did /etc/init.d/network restart, and turned down my eth0 port (leaving just ath0 in the route table), and things are cooking.
[05:06] <Trilom> ok
[05:06] <Trilom> any suggestions?
[05:06] <msims> no I did the dpkg-reconfigure
[05:06] <monkievox> Trilom: you ever make boot floppies before?
[05:06] <La_PaRCa> jsubl2, so, am I SOL?
[05:06] <d03boy> !wget
[05:06] <ubotu> d03boy: I give up, what is it?
[05:06] <Trilom> i have one
[05:06] <jsubl2> La_PaRCa, yeah that would be my guess..
[05:07] <monkievox> Trilom: oh, well then give that a whirl :)
[05:07] <ma5terdp> is there something wrong with my mount that makes it an readonly mount??? sudo mount /dev/hda2 -t hfsplus /media/mac ????
[05:07] <d03boy> I would like to know the wget command to get the sources.list (a computer im' setting up only has shell)
[05:07] <ma5terdp> anyone???
[05:07] <oblib> Any nfs experts here? I mounted a share, and it only shares one level of files!
[05:07] <Trilom> ok
[05:07] <monkievox> masterdp: dunno, sorry
[05:07] <dabaR> ma5terdp: add options for read write.
[05:07] <cdubya> rossnolgrad, /usr/bin/curl
[05:07] <Citydog> !kernel
[05:08] <rossnolgrad> oh, I have to run it in terminal
[05:08] <hd420> why doesn't ubuntu give one detailed errors when apt fails to do its thing?
[05:08] <dabaR> hd420: haha.
[05:08] <ma5terdp> ok
[05:08] <Dr_Willis> hd420,  may as well ask why apt dosent. :P
[05:08] <dabaR> post the error you got to paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[05:08] <fr500> oblib: the grep thingy doesnt show anything
[05:08] <cdubya> heh
[05:08] <intelikey> shanonx yes that is what i've been saying, fat does not support unix file permissions.   the only thing that can be set is =/- w     the x and r can not be set.   and that is covered in the umask=   a umask=013 will make them not executable to group or world but owner has full access.   thing is the directories are masked same as files.  so fatfs for  a linux system is good only for short term, file transfer usage.
[05:09] <oblib> fr500, even after you type 'vncserver' ?
[05:09] <Hentai^XPwork> fat is good only for trasnferign between windows and unix
[05:09] <fr500> yes
[05:09] <hd420> 5537
[05:09] <ma5terdp> is that right fat chick
[05:09] <Goldfish> There we go. Now I am into this channel on my ubuntu laptop. Ubuntu is slick!
[05:09] <hd420> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/5537
[05:10] <oblib> fr500, what does the terminal say when you run it?
[05:10] <Citydog> does anyone know a simple system monitoring utility for kde?  something that shows cpu and network utilization nothing fanzy
[05:10] <Hentai^XPwork> otherwise I would stick with ext3fs on ubuntu and NTFS on win NT based oses
[05:10] <monkievox> goldfish: you wireless?
[05:10] <hatred_> can someone point me at a url that has a decent repository list? my current set doesn't have mplayer or xine or anything..
[05:10] <Goldfish> Yup. Netgear wg511t (madwifi atheros chipset)
[05:10] <ma5terdp> i mean
[05:10] <joedj> Citydog: ksysguard is a simple one that has CPU and memory. i use gkrellm, even with KDE
[05:10] <Sneaky_Bastard> FAT = what you must trim from your life as soon as possible :p
[05:10] <_jason> ubotu, tell hatred_ about easysource
[05:11] <hatred_> thanks _jason
[05:11] <fr500> oblib: something about New 'laptop:1 (root)' desktop is laptop:1
[05:11] <monkievox> goldfish: nuts. my intel 2200 bs won't work
[05:11] <chalcedony> does someone want to tell me how to get a command prompt?
[05:11] <_jason> chalcedony, accessories -> terminal
[05:11] <intelikey> Sneaky_Bastard hehhe   yeah right.
[05:11] <ma5terdp> hay is this how u add the option read write to cmd?? sudo mount /dev/hda2 -o rw -t hfsplus /media/mac
[05:12] <d03boy> I am in a terminal computer and I need to use wget to download a valid sources.list. Does anyone know of a file that is already saved somewhere that I can easily get?
[05:12] <hatred_> should I go for breezy or hoary? last time i checked breezy was still experimental stuff
[05:12] <quacker> chalcedony, you might as well just call <sigh>
[05:12] <fr500> oblib: but i started it form an open gdm
[05:12] <intelikey> ma5terdp yep
[05:12] <quacker> But first try Ctrl+Alt+F1 to F6
[05:12] <slashx1896> is it true runnig ubuntu u cant get viruses?
[05:13] <intelikey> !repos
[05:13] <cdubya> heh
[05:13] <ubotu> hmm... repos is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy) see also !easysource
[05:13] <oblib> fr500, can you post HOME/.vnc/laptop:1.log to http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[05:13] <joedj> slashx1896: no, it's a _lot_ less likely though
[05:13] <intelikey> d03boy ^
[05:13] <hd420> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/5537
[05:13] <d03boy> that will give me HTML right?
[05:13] <d03boy> i dont want html
[05:13] <Goldfish> I have ubuntu on my laptop. I am also trying to get a new wireless card into my mythtv box, but not doing too well there.
[05:13] <quacker> slashx1896, that's not true, but it's far, far, far less likely than i Doze
[05:13] <slashx1896> alrite, ive done things that i normaly get viruses from.. now i dont
[05:13] <hatred_> slashx1896 almost. you can't get windows viruses, and linux viruses are few, far between and almost unheard of
[05:13] <quacker> In Linux yah basically only gotta worry about rootkits
[05:13] <intelikey> d03boy open it with links/lynx or even vim
[05:14] <d03boy> thats a lot of wokr when I dont know ho to copy/paste
[05:14] <slashx1896> im new with ubuntu and stil gotta alot to learn lol
[05:14] <chalcedony> i feel lost ..   "Got gpm?" Hmm....could release something like "Got ubuntu?" I guess not too man people would get it, ehh?
[05:15] <d03boy> i dont know
[05:15] <La_PaRCa> ok
[05:15] <Dr_Willis> slashx1896,  thers limewire for ubuntu.
[05:15] <slashx1896> gnutella..
[05:15] <Hentai^XPwork> got system?
[05:15] <La_PaRCa> cant get ipodder to run.
[05:15] <hd420> dabaR: same error, mate
[05:15] <slashx1896> sux...
[05:15] <_jason> ubotu, tell slashx1896 about limewire
[05:15] <chalcedony> and yes it's a gui and no neither of us has clue 1
[05:15] <quacker> That sounds like a step forward.
[05:15] <chalcedony> it does not look like debian gnome.
[05:15] <cdubya> heh, of all things to get called that for....limewire...
[05:15] <cdubya> he
[05:15] <fr500> oblib:  http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/5538
[05:15] <cdubya> heh
[05:16] <slashx1896> o.o so  i dont have to use gnutella?
[05:16] <dabaR> slashx1896: there is limewire for gnu/linux systems, and limewire sucks, there is a better free program
[05:16] <intelikey> Goldfish i don't console without gpm  :)
[05:16] <quacker> Do you see a little K-superimposed over gears button?
[05:16] <ledh> how do i install JAVA?
[05:16] <quacker> click it
[05:16] <Tired_> Hello.  I'm trying to find some kind of documentation on how to set up a heavily stripped down Ubuntu box, and google isn't helping...any pointers?
[05:16] <ledh> i need it for limewire... =(
[05:16] <La_PaRCa> Having trouble running iPodder, any help appreciated: http://pastebin.ubuntulinux.nl/5534
[05:16] <dabaR> hd420: sudo dpkg --remove --force apache
[05:16] <slashx1896> dabaR like?
[05:16] <chalcedony> quacker: Ha! upper left hand corner where the footprint is in gnome?
[05:17] <quacker> okayu, yoiu've booted Gnome -- use that button then
[05:17] <dabaR> slashx1896: it is called gtk-gnutella, and limewire can wish it was ok like that.
[05:17] <cdubya> heh
[05:17] <slashx1896> o.O
[05:17] <cdubya> yeah
[05:17] <slashx1896> dabaR: i think gnutella sux
[05:17] <oblib> fr500, where is the guide you used?
[05:17] <Tired_> I want to remove all the services and such that aren't needed for the purpoise of the box, which is video playback.
[05:17] <ledh> x_x
[05:17] <chalcedony> found it .. accessories, termial .. quacker the goal was to get Abiword
[05:17] <dabaR> slashx1896: why is limewire better?
[05:17] <intelikey> !start a desktop war
[05:17] <ubotu> kde is much better than windowmaker!
[05:17] <Trilom> ahh
[05:17] <ledh> well... i wanna download music... that's all...
[05:17] <hd420> dabaR: server: 8:17pm % sudo dpkg --remove --force apache                          [~]
[05:17] <hd420> dpkg: unknown force/refuse option `apache'
[05:17] <slashx1896> dabaR: i can barly get many songs..., and when i run it i cant use the interent.. last time i ran it my whole house lost internet except for gnutella...
[05:17] <Trilom> it wouldnt boot the boot disk either
[05:18] <ledh> can anyone help me out?
[05:18] <Dr_Willis> Tired_,  i saw a forum/wiki thread about that just the otehr day. on the ubuntu site.
[05:18] <fr500> oblib: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=76638
[05:18] <quacker> chalcedony, you can put your taskbar anywhere, but the default location is bottom left after a Kubuntu install (gee wonder where they got that idea form... heh)
[05:18] <monkievox> Trilom: hmmm
[05:18] <dabaR> slashx1896: ok.
[05:18] <Tired_> Thanks...I'll search there.  :)
[05:18] <slashx1896> dabaR: when i run it all my internet focuses on gnutella and i cant serf the web or use irc or gaim or anything
[05:18] <hatred_> slashx1896; lartc.org ;)
[05:18] <oblib> fr500, what is 'mobile3'?
[05:18] <cdubya> !javadebs
[05:18] <ubotu> it has been said that javadebs is Sun Java debs packaged for breezy are at http://www.giannaros.org/public/breezydebs/
[05:18] <monkievox> Trilom: any errors? or it just goes straight to hard drive?
[05:18] <quacker> chalcedony, Abiword is under the 'Office' menu
[05:18] <fr500> oblib: my computer name
[05:18] <Trilom> just loads the HDD
[05:18] <slashx1896> huh?
[05:18] <dabaR> hd420: sudo dpkg --force --remove apache
[05:19] <Goldfish> On synaptic, what does the "supported" ubuntu icon signify?
[05:19] <monkievox> Trilom: and this is after setting boot order in BIOS to floppy first, yes?
[05:19] <quacker> Unless you change it or it's not installed (installs by default with ubuntu-desktop or kubuntu)
[05:19] <Trilom> yeah i done that
[05:19] <ledh> -__________-U
[05:19] <cdubya> ledh, that help?
[05:19] <ledh> nope
[05:19] <ledh> x_x
[05:19] <monkievox> goldfish: i got synaptic on my hp laptop working good
[05:19] <ledh> i know nothing about Linux
[05:19] <monkievox> Trilom: hmmm ... what's on that hard drive right now?
[05:19] <ledh> -.-U
[05:19] <d03boy> <-- needs a wget command and a link to a sources.list (without html) so that I can put it on a system without GUI
[05:20] <Trilom> what you mean?
[05:20] <Trilom> its Windows 98 SE
[05:20] <monkievox> TRilom: is it booting to an existing OS? or is it a blank new drive?
[05:20] <quacker> Goldfish, it tells you that the package is found in the main repository for your version
[05:20] <ma5terdp> hay..;....
[05:20] <ma5terdp> isnt working!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[05:20] <monkievox> Trilom: right
[05:20] <Trilom> the existing OS
[05:20] <oblib> fr500, computer is the server or client?
[05:20] <fr500> oblib: server
[05:20] <quacker> I.e. breezy as  opposed to breezy-backports for Ubuntu 5.10]
[05:20] <monkievox> Trilom: you're not p[lanning on a dual boot are oyu?
[05:21] <Goldfish> monkievox: synaptic kicks butt. I am pretty good with apt-get, if I know what I'm looking for. However, if I need to find something, synaptic is handy.
[05:21] <Trilom> thats what im wanting to do
[05:21] <Tired_> how usable is Ubuntu on a low-powered system...say, headless, 32MB RAM, Cel 333, no X...?
[05:21] <dabaR> wget http://www.mts.net/~danb/sources.list but hoary, change the hoary words to breezy
[05:21] <ma5terdp> hay can someone help i get thiss error
[05:21] <Trilom> but i got 2 hdd's
[05:21] <Trilom> so it wont be too hard
[05:21] <Goldfish> monkievox: but installing the ubuntu package search engine in firefox is cool!
[05:21] <d03boy> thankks
[05:21] <fr500> oblib: normal vnc (remote desktop in the menu) works just fine
[05:21] <quacker> Tired, Breezy badger needs 128 MB minimum!
[05:21] <quacker> Dunno what Hoary Hedgehog requires
[05:21] <dabaR> $20
[05:22] <monkievox> Trilom: well, i was going to suggest wiping out that drive completely.  but if you want to keep the win98 on there.... i dunno.
[05:22] <ma5terdp> hay here is what i get
[05:22] <ma5terdp> ubuntu@ubuntu:~/Desktop$ sudo mv 1.nonx /media/mac/
[05:22] <ma5terdp> mv: cannot create regular file `/media/mac/1.nonx': Read-only file system
[05:22] <oblib> fr500, the guide looks like it creates the vnc session when you try to access the port. You have tried doing a vnc client to port 5901?
[05:22] <fr500> yes
[05:22] <fr500> doesnt work
[05:22] <Trilom> im installing it onto a formatted
[05:22] <Trilom> hdd
[05:22] <dabaR> Tired_: you can use the command line, if you want. or a ow end window manager. Try openbox.
[05:22] <hd420> ok... dabar, sudo dpkg --remove --force apache worked
[05:22] <Trilom> my C dricve has windows
[05:22] <hatred_> Tired_ ubuntu isn't really designed to run on headless boxes i think.. maybe debian or arch or some other distro would suit your purposes better?
[05:22] <ledh> can anyone lend me a hand around here? I need the commands to get the JAVA thing installed... i wanna download music!
[05:22] <Trilom> my D is going to house ubuntu
[05:22] <Tired_> so, I take it Ubuntu is a bad choice for a small router/NAS box...?
[05:22] <chalcedony> quacker: .. ill look in office, thank you .. i'm having trouble getting my box to print from abiword on debian.
[05:22] <ledh> ToT
[05:22] <Goldfish> Strange, I had to load ntp-server. I figured that sort of thing would have been in the standard install package. Well, I got tired of booting this computer into September 2004. :)
[05:23] <quacker> Is Zeph still 'on strike'?
[05:23] <fr500> oblib: it's like the server doesnt start
[05:23] <dabaR> Tired_: you would have to install with server option on the install boot screen, and then install something like openbox to see.
[05:23] <hatred_> Tired_ ubuntu is based on debian
[05:23] <monkievox> Trilom: yeah, i've had trouble on older machines trying to boot up on anything when the HDD has a windows OS already on it.
[05:23] <cdubya> ledh, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java?action=show&redirect=AddingJavaSupport
[05:23] <Goldfish> Tired_: Our mlinux.org club met and played with hacking a linksys router with a linux platform. THAT is cool.
[05:23] <hd420> still no go, dabaR
[05:23] <Tired_> yes, but with better docs
[05:23] <bob2_> ubuntu runs fine on headless boxes
[05:23] <oblib> fr500, what do you put as the destination in the client?
[05:23] <chalcedony> quacker: craig's box has Open Office but not abiword at all
[05:23] <navarone> Is anyone using a Xubuntu install? And how is it compared to gnome?
[05:23] <dabaR> hd420: ok, hd420 Im gl;ad it worked, and now it didnt, what aree you saying?
[05:23] <fr500> ip address :5901
[05:24] <bob2_> it's the same as ubuntu, but with xfce4.  if you don't know what it's like, try it
[05:24] <hd420> I was able to remove, but still can't install
[05:24] <fr500> oblib: or mobile3:1 since its a windows pc
[05:24] <hatred_> Tired_ if you want good docs, go with gentoo, though the install would be rather tedious on a slower system
[05:24] <cafuego> navarone: More spartan, less resource hungry, not as pretty.
[05:24] <monkievox> Trilom: if you really want to waste some time, you could wipe that drive completely, see if ubuntu will install afterwards, then install win98 after that.  but i don't know what that win98 install will do to your ubuntu install.
[05:24] <Trilom> what do you suggest?
[05:24] <Tired_> i'm actually just moving away from gentoo...
[05:24] <fr500> oblib: but trying  from the local machine doesnt work either
[05:24] <bob2_> any plan that involves using gentoo for it's docuemtnation is doomed
[05:24] <ledh> I don't get... someone told me i should use Linux cos it was much lighter than WinX... and honestly... i can't tell the difference... :S
[05:24] <Trilom> nah
[05:24] <ledh> IT*
[05:24] <monkievox> Trilom: :)
[05:24] <quacker> chalcedony,  $ sudo apt-get install [package name]   works just like in Debian
[05:24] <Trilom> dont want to do that
[05:25] <ma5terdp> anyone know about this error i am getting ??? ubuntu@ubuntu:~/Desktop$ sudo mv 1.nonx /media/mac/
[05:25] <ma5terdp> mv: cannot create regular file `/media/mac/1.nonx': Read-only file system
[05:25] <Hentai^XPwork> ledh it can be
[05:25] <oblib> fr500, have you ever done 'ipaddress:port:display'?  (or is it :display:port)
[05:25] <Tired_> i need docs that explain concepts, not step-by-step rote memory.
[05:25] <Hentai^XPwork> ledh esp if you do LFS
[05:25] <oblib> fr500, so ipaddress:1:5901
[05:25] <Goldfish> ledh: I just loaded ubuntu onto a 5-year old laptop with a Celeron 433 processor. Believe me, XP would not run on this thing in any fashion. However ubuntu is kicking butt. I just need to upgrade the RAM.
[05:25] <dabaR> bob2_: do you know why I get a error:could not open /var/run/utmp: No such process error when creating new screens in gnu screen, and as a result a small delay?
[05:25] <chalcedony> Tired_: *hugs* .. boy do i understand you :)
[05:25] <Hentai^XPwork> LFS = Linux From Scratch ledh
[05:25] <hatred_> ma5terdp it means your trying to write to a read only filesystem
[05:25] <dabaR> bob2_: or more importantly, how to fix.
[05:25] <monkievox> Trilom: just out of curiosity, if you made a win98 rescue disk, will it boot to that? or sidestep it to the HD?
[05:25] <fr500> oblib: doesnt work
[05:25] <navarone> bob cafuego...have tried the xfce theme and xfce from sessions...but was wondering whata  straight xfce install would run like. I like the xfce look...but getting everything in order like menus items and such
[05:25] <Trilom> HD
[05:25] <Tired_> chalcedony -> thanks.  you're one up on me then  :P
[05:25] <ledh> ESP? o,O
[05:25] <Trilom> tried the  rescue disks too lol
[05:26] <bob2_> ledh: that someone was clueless, sadly; ignore them
[05:26] <dabaR> Tired_: what concepts?
[05:26] <quacker> chalcedony, or use 'Start button' --> 'system' --> 'Synaptic (Package Manager)'
[05:26] <monkievox> Trilom: it won't even boot to a win98 rescue disk?
[05:26] <bob2_> dabaR: does it exist?
[05:26] <Trilom> yup
[05:26] <ledh> n_n
[05:26] <bob2_> ma5terdp: that error seems clear
[05:26] <Tired_> well, the biggest problem I have is what kernel options to select for my weird systems.
[05:26] <dabaR> the file itself exists. I tried playing with permissions, and that did not help.
[05:26] <bob2_> Tired_: the ubuntu kernel doesn't oot?
[05:26] <bob2_> ma5terdp: /media/mac/ is mounted read-only
[05:26] <oblib> fr500, you ran vncserver on the client (laptop) or the server (computer)?
[05:26] <monkievox> Trilom: and the rescue disk was made recently with win98 on that machine? ie, you know the floppy works in win98?
[05:26] <bob2_> ma5terdp: perhaps it's hfs
[05:26] <hatred_> Tired_ after you make a few kernels you get the hang of it :)
[05:26] <Trilom> yeah
[05:27] <monkievox> Trilom: dang.  got me.
[05:27] <Tired_> i haven't tried it yet....i am still evaluating whther it'll meet my needs
[05:27] <quacker> chalcedony, And unless you've created a root password, you will need to give your USER password since Ubuntu doesn't have one by default
[05:27] <fr500> oblib: server of course
[05:27] <bob2_> Tired_: in the time you've spent discussing it, yo ucould have installed it already
[05:27] <hatred_> Tired_ i just made a new kernel for this lappy this morning.. <IP_ADDRESS> runs very nicely when its customised for the system :D
[05:27] <bob2_> Tired_: and seen whether it worked
[05:27] <oblib> fr500, and what you pasted is from the server, right?
[05:27] <Trilom> :(
[05:27] <Tired_> but how do you learn how to customize it?
[05:27] <ledh> C'MON YOU GUYS!! now i have to BUILD the whole JAVA thing? x_x
[05:27] <Trilom> any one else you know i could talk to?
[05:27] <bob2_> Tired_: to customise what?
[05:27] <fr500> oblib: yes
[05:27] <Tired_> other than trial and error?
[05:27] <bob2_> ledh: no, don't be silly
[05:27] <Tired_> the kernel
[05:28] <bob2_> Tired_: why would you bother customising the kernel?
[05:28] <hatred_> Tired_ good judgement comes from experience, and experience comes from bad judgement
[05:28] <Tired_> since I have non-standard hardware
[05:28] <ledh> there's a link someone gave me... it says that...
[05:28] <oscar> hopefully someone can help me
[05:28] <monkievox> Trilom: yeah, i dunno.  sorry man.
[05:28] <bob2_> Tired_: that is a useless definition, it's highly likely the kernel will just work
[05:28] <ledh> can't you tell i'ma newwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwby? o.O
[05:28] <Trilom> its alright
[05:28] <navarone> btw...just had to kill another instance of me on server. Nickserv's ghost is hadny...lol
[05:28] <hatred_> bob2_ because the kernel that this ubuntu install came with didn't have any cpu frequency scaling support in it :/
[05:28] <Tired_> it will detect my scsi software raid, my multiprocessors, etc?
[05:29] <oblib> fr500, well the only thing I can see weird is it says created server for screen 0, and then it errors trying to open display 'mobile3:1'
[05:29] <dabaR> bob2_: the file itself exists. I tried playing with permissions, and that did not help. (in the likely case this scrolled by you, I forgot to prepend with nick.)
[05:29] <bob2_> hatred_: yes it does.  perhaps it doesn't support your particular cpu?
[05:29] <bob2_> Tired_: hahaha scsi software raid
[05:29] <oscar> my time, on the desktop, in upper roght hand corner show to be Fri Dec 9 4:27am
[05:29] <fr500> oblib: maybe because i started after an xserver was started?
[05:29] <bob2_> Tired_: if you want smp support, install the -smp kernel and reboot
[05:29] <oblib> fr500, seems like it should be trying to open :1.  Run 'vncserver :1' and let me know if that cahnges anything
[05:29] <bob2_> dabaR: who owns it?
[05:29] <luisito> where can I find Uplash themes?
[05:29] <ma5terdp> hay i did this do i need 2 make another folder??
[05:29] <monkievox> Trilom: you can keep asking these guys!
[05:29] <oscar> but my real time is 10.29pm
[05:29] <Tired_> why hahaha?
[05:29] <luisito> where can I find Usplash themes?
[05:29] <oscar> and my date here is Dec 8
[05:29] <nifelseki> uhhhhhmmm.. guys.. how do i reverse changes done by apt-get
[05:30] <dabaR> bob2_: root. permissions are fine for owner and group. I added myself to the group(utmp) no changes.
[05:30] <oscar> my time zone is set right
[05:30] <bob2_> Tired_: if you're using md or whatever, then I gather that just works
[05:30] <bob2_> nifelseki: be more specific
[05:30] <dooglus> nifelseki: apt-get
[05:30] <fr500> oblib: same thing same log
[05:30] <bob2_> dabaR: dunno then, sorry
[05:30] <oscar> and when I open "adjust time"
[05:30] <oscar> it show correct time
[05:30] <bob2_> ledh: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java
[05:30] <Trilom> alright
[05:30] <oblib> fr500, you want log with :1 on it now
[05:30] <hatred_> bob2_ the kernel i made this morning gets to init in about 2 seconds flat, and the savage framebuffer console actually works.. the kernel that came with this was like 9 months old
[05:30] <oscar> I found it!
[05:30] <Tired_> ok.  you've convinced me.  i'll try installing and see how it goes.
[05:30] <oscar> my comp was set to
[05:30] <oscar> use UTC
[05:31] <Trilom> X*X* NEed help : I need help getting my ShipIt discs to boot up, ive tried alot of things, please help
[05:31] <oscar> what is "UTC"
[05:31] <fr500> oblib: i started like that (vncserver :1)
[05:31] <navarone> omg...I had to kill ghost cos I had opened chat in another desktop and it was running already in another desktop...lol
[05:31] <Tired_> thanks for the advice and the links, and for the free OS.
[05:31] <bob2_> Trilom: please stop it
[05:31] <bob2_> Trilom: if you have a specific question, ask
[05:31] <dabaR> bob2_: that is ok, it is just a 1 second delay -- ages
[05:31] <bob2_> hatred_: 2.6.12?
[05:31] <Trilom> Ok
[05:31] <oblib> but look at .vnc/media3:1.log
[05:31] <oblib> or whatever
[05:31] <Trilom> Well i need help getting my shipit discs to work, ive tried Changing the BIOS and it doesnt work, im sure my drive is ok
[05:31] <hatred_> bob2_ <IP_ADDRESS> it was.. now running <IP_ADDRESS> quite happily
[05:31] <cdubya> ledh, if you want, you can install java in synaptic as long as you've got multiverse enabled.....open synaptic and search for j2re, then install that.....
[05:32] <bob2_> Trilom: you're being way way too vague
[05:32] <Trilom> wondering if anyone has anyideas what else i can do to get them to boot
[05:32] <giloth> hello everyone :)
[05:32] <bob2_> hatred_: <IP_ADDRESS> is in warty, which is from october 2004; why arent you using breezy?
[05:32] <fr500> oblib: thats the only log that exists as before
[05:32] <navarone> Trilom what changes can you make to bios in regard to boot order?
[05:32] <oblib> fr500, and it's identical?
[05:32] <Trilom> ok you have to set your drive to boot from a disk, i set it to boot from a disc and it doest boot
[05:32] <fr500> oblib: yes
[05:32] <bob2_> Trilom: you mean "I configured the BIOS to boot the CD, but it appears to just boot into windows as usual"?
[05:32] <oscar> is what I'm typing visible?
[05:33] <oscar> someone please answer
[05:33] <ledh> bob2_ i'm not using breezy...
[05:33] <Trilom> bob2_ Yeah
[05:33] <bob2_> ledh: why?
[05:33] <ledh> i'm on Hoary
[05:33] <navarone> yes
[05:33] <hatred_> bob2_ this isn't my machine.. friend had the warty cd, and dialup makes updating rather prohibitive. if it was my machine it would have gentoo on it
[05:33] <bob2_> hatred_: ouch
[05:33] <fr500> oblib: nevermind, i got pissed already
[05:33] <monkievox> bob2: Trilom has an old dell optiplex, P2.
[05:33] <bob2_> hatred_: basing comments to people considering breezy on that experience seems a little disngenious, tho
[05:33] <oblib> fr500, I think you're right that the vnc server is not starting up right, but I don't know why. Sorry I couldn't help
[05:33] <fr500> oblib: i'll try tomorrow :p
[05:33] <bob2_> Trilom: does it boot other cds ok?
[05:33] <fr500> no prob
[05:33] <oblib> fr500, I know the feeling
[05:33] <oblib> gl
[05:33] <giloth> whats the command to restart the sound system?
[05:33] <cge> Is there an intuitive (without gconf-editor) way to add folders to the Places menu and sidebar?
[05:33] <Trilom> like games and stuff yeah
[05:34] <fr500> next one, has anyone been able to compile the new banshee in breezy?
[05:34] <bob2_> giloth: which part?
[05:34] <fr500> !sources
[05:34] <ubotu> A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy) - Create your own sources.list at http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[05:34] <bob2_> Trilom: you've booted game cds?
[05:34] <bob2_> Trilom: or do you mean you can acces them under windows ok?
[05:34] <giloth> bob2_, I'm not sure really, lol... i'm assuming alsa?
[05:34] <Trilom> the second one
[05:34] <bob2_> giloth: there's nothing to "restart" then
[05:34] <bob2_> Trilom: that's entirely unrelated
[05:34] <ledh> cdubya how do i enable the multiverse?
[05:34] <bob2_> Trilom: can you boot your windows cd?
[05:34] <Trilom> i dont know
[05:34] <Trilom> yeah
[05:34] <hatred_> bob2_ you got me there.. i'm just not a fan of binary distros anymore, having fought with so many of them
[05:35] <bob2_> Trilom: try it again, now
[05:35] <bob2_> if you have to fight, it's a bug
[05:35] <monkievox> Trilom: please :)
[05:35] <Trilom> alright
[05:35] <oblib> Any nfs experts here? I mounted a share, and it only shares one level of files!
[05:35] <giloth> bob2_, hmmm... well for some reason there is no sound coming out right now... i THINK it's using alsa, but am not sure
[05:35] <bob2_> if you're used to redhat, debian and ubuntu are a different world
[05:35] <cdubya> ledh, you can go to Settings in synaptic, then add, then check non-free (multiverse).....
[05:36] <bob2_> since you can generally unfuck things that are broken in the development version, and they shouldn't ever be broken in a stable release
[05:36] <bob2_> giloth: so what would "restarting", if there was such a thing achieve? it sounds like the correct alsa modules aren't being loaded, or that ESD or something has seized control of the sound device.
[05:36] <cdubya> ledh, settings > repositories > add > non-free (multiverse)
[05:36] <bob2_> e.g. fuser -v /dev/dsp
[05:36] <giloth> bob2_, hmm.. now it's playing... sorry about wasting your time :p
[05:37] <hatred_> bob2_ its more the chronic dependency issues that I end up fighting with.. eg; how easy is it to install kde in ubuntu without arts support, since arts is so terrible?
[05:37] <bob2_> giloth: np
[05:37] <ledh> bob2_ cos when i upgrade it,.. i had troubles with the keyboard... i could log in at all...
[05:37] <hatred_> bob2_ but this is about to become a distro war, so let's leave it there :)
[05:37] <bob2_> hatred_: install kde. tell it to not use arts in kcontrol. drink beer.
[05:38] <bob2_> yeah, fair enough
[05:38] <giloth> now back to the question i originally came to ask :) i've been wanting to get involved with bash shell scripting, but didn't know if there was a howto located anywhere
[05:38] <bob2_> giloth: tldp.org, advanced bash howto
[05:38] <bob2_> also #bash
[05:38] <Trilom> didnt work
[05:39] <giloth> bob2_, thanks, but is there a beginner guide rather than a advanced one?
[05:39] <dabaR> bob2_: we try installing apache on this ubuntu system, and we get an error, posted under hd420 on paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[05:39] <hatred_> giloth; the bootscripts in /etc/init.d/ provide a few examples.. there are numerous programs that are written in bash too.. file `which someprogram` is your friend
[05:39] <ledh> cdubya ... done! now? =(
[05:39] <bob2_> Trilom: the windows cd didn't work? then your bios settings are broken or the drive is damaged.
[05:39] <monkievox> Trilom: wow. weird.
[05:39] <bob2_> dabaR: I'd be using apache2
[05:39] <Mostro>  /msg nickserv set unfiltered on
[05:39] <giloth> thank you hatred_
[05:39] <Trilom> ok well ive been meaning to put my other drive in
[05:39] <Mostro> can people see me now
[05:40] <Trilom> one sec brb
[05:40] <bob2_> dabaR: make the second line of /var/lib/dpkg/info/apache.postinst be "set -x"
[05:40] <navarone> Trilom, and if that's the case you should get repair/new one before you need to reinstall windows...<s>
[05:40] <bob2_> dabaR: then 'dpkg --confogure -a'
[05:40] <bob2_> spelt corectly
[05:40] <Mostro>  /msg nickserv identify YOURPASSWORD
[05:40] <bob2_> ...
[05:40] <dabaR> bob2_: why now that? Out of curiosity.
[05:41] <Mostro>  /msg nickserv identify test
[05:41] <bob2_> dabaR: why which bit?
[05:41] <bob2_> Mostro: please?
[05:41] <navarone> Mostro, AAre you asking for help with something?
[05:41] <dabaR> bob2_: the change of the script.
[05:41] <Mostro> yes, I forgot my password
[05:41] <bob2_> dabaR: to force it to print wtf it's doing
[05:42] <navarone> wb Mostro
[05:42] <Mostro>  /msg nickserv identify pleaseletmein
[05:42] <dabaR> bob2_: we will try apache2 first, perhaps.
[05:42] <jl0gik> does anyone know how to run sudo inside a script?
[05:42] <monkievox> :)
[05:42] <chris86wm> hey guys, im interested in trying out fluxbox. how do i stop gnome and set fluxbox to start up?
[05:43] <bob2_> jl0gik: to do what?
[05:43] <jl0gik> iwconfig ath0 "xxx" then dhclient ath0 in one shot
[05:43] <bob2_> chris86wm: install xephyr, run 'Xephyr :1 -ac&' in a terminal, then 'export DISPLAY=:1 ; fluxbox&'
[05:43] <mr_daemon> Hello everyone
[05:43] <bob2_> jl0gik: why not just setup /etc/network/interfaces correctly?
[05:44] <jl0gik> <-- noob doesnt know
[05:44] <Mostro> wb
[05:44] <bob2_> jl0gik: that'll be a lot simpler
[05:44] <mr_daemon> Since one update, I get tis in my logs over and over when I press the arrow keys and pageup page down, home delete insert etc: atkbd.c: Unknown key pressed (translated set 2, code 0xaa on isa0060/serio0).
[05:44] <Lewix> I have a laptop , toshiba M40/M45 serie and  I've downloaded the iso dvd of ubuntu. when I boot there's things that loads up then my screen goes black. as well as the dvd screen as the install. I tried linux vga=771 with the live dvd because i want to be sure that it works before installing and I all seem to work till I got a erro message about xserver
[05:44] <jl0gik> could you point me to a resource?
[05:44] <mr_daemon> Any ideas? The forums were not particularily useful...
[05:44] <mr_daemon> I just found people with my problem and no solution...
[05:45] <fr500> if i manage to compile banshee succefully without messing everything around too much, how can i share the debs?
[05:45] <fr500> i did them with checkinstall
[05:45] <Lewix> I've been looking for a solution everywhere
[05:45] <bob2_> jl0gik: man 5 interfaces
[05:45] <navarone> mr_daemon, perhaps you have improper keyboard in use...i.e us vs uk or something like that...?
[05:45] <bob2_> jl0gik: also /usr/share/doc/ifupdown
[05:46] <mr_daemon> navarone: cf actually. Canadian French.
[05:46] <bob2_> mr_daemon: anything in the bts?
[05:46] <mr_daemon> bob2_: ... come again?
[05:46] <navarone> ahh oui oui...lol
[05:46] <Lewix> tu peux m'aider le canadien francais la
[05:46] <bob2_> mr_daemon: have you looked in the bug tracking system?
[05:46] <mr_daemon> lol coudonc, chu pas tu seul on dirait :P
[05:46] <bob2_> fr500: banshee is in ubuntu.
[05:46] <Lewix> someone helps!! please
[05:46] <mr_daemon> bob2_: hmm, no, i will hold on.
[05:46] <fr500> bob2_: but it's outdated
[05:47] <cdubya> ledh, sorry
[05:47] <Lewix> non je suis pas francais mais je parle francias
[05:47] <Lewix> francais*
[05:47] <bob2_> fr500: so rebuild he version from dapper
[05:47] <bob2_> Lewix: enough
[05:47] <navarone> mr_daemon, perhaps you don't have proper font set with accents and such...if your keyboard ampping includes them
[05:47] <fr500> bob2_: i used mono from backports though
[05:47] <Mostro> am I visible?
[05:47] <bob2_> Mostro: no
[05:47] <Mostro> I forgot my password
[05:47] <Mostro> how do I recover
[05:47] <fr33mind> I have sound in gdm and when I logged, I don't have sound anymore!  That was working this morning.
[05:47] <ledh> thanks for
[05:47] <dabaR> Mostro: you spend life in grief never recovering.
[05:48] <dabaR> Mostro: no, not so, but, there is no way.
[05:48] <Mostro> ok
[05:48] <fr500> bob2_: so i should change my repos to daper and get mono and banshee from there>
[05:48] <fr500> _
[05:48] <mr_daemon> navarone: Actually, loadkeys cf is done properly, but I had the known bug in Gnome where I must change the shortcut key to change keyboard layout else i'm stuck with US. The rest was set during the installation.
[05:48] <fr500> ?
[05:48] <cdubya> ledh, go to Synaptic now....and click on search and type j2re
[05:48] <Mostro> I will try a new nick then
[05:48] <fr500> man this keyboard is killing me
[05:48] <Mostro> is that what I have to do?
[05:48] <Lewix> any idea ?
[05:48] <navarone> Mostro...maybe all that typing msg to nickserv in public got your password nicked...<shrug>
[05:48] <hatred_> argh.. can't install mplayer.. "mplayer-586: Depends: libxxf86dga1 but it is not going to be installed // Depends: libxxf86vm1 but it is not going to be installed".. what do i do about that?
[05:48] <dabaR> fr33mind: post output of "amixer" in a terminal to paste.ubuntulinux.nl, please.
[05:48] <hatred_> mplayer-k6 said the same thing
[05:48] <ledh> cdubya ... nothing
[05:48] <bob2_> fr500: get the backport people to do it then
[05:49] <bob2_> hatred_: don't use a broken sources.list
[05:49] <Mostro> sorry, I'm new to IRC
[05:49] <bob2_> hatred_: ie paste it to #flood and we'll tell you what to get rid of
[05:49] <Lewix> I have a laptop , toshiba M40/M45 serie and  I've downloaded the iso dvd of ubuntu. when I boot and type enter there's things that loads up then my screen goes black. as well with the dvd screen as with the install. I tried linux vga=771 with the live dvd because i want to be sure that it works before installing and I all seem to work till I got a erro message about xserver
[05:49] <fr500> bob2_: kk
[05:49] <hatred_> bob2_ its the one i got from source-o-matic
[05:49] <navarone> mr_daemon, I salute you in your struggles...<s> (meaning I can't help)
[05:49] <cdubya> ledh, sorry, what version of ubuntu are you on?
[05:49] <bob2_> hatred_: I have no idea what that is, but it sounds like something a forums person would concoct
[05:50] <mr_daemon> navarone: Well, thanks for trying anyways :)
[05:50] <ledh> cdubya ... Hoary 5.04 i think
[05:50] <dabaR> bob2_: seveas' sourceomatic, kinda sucks.
[05:50] <fr33mind> dabaR, done
[05:50] <fr33mind> dabaR, done #5543
[05:50] <hatred_> bob2_ #flooded.. what should i change?
[05:50] <cdubya> ledh, ok. go to Settings > Repositories and look for the one that says Hoary Binary
[05:51] <cdubya> ledh, click once on it and click edit
[05:51] <navarone> np mr_daemon
[05:51] <mr_daemon> sudo update-rc.d -f hotkey-setup remove
[05:51] <bob2_> hatred_: didn't you say you were using warty?
[05:51] <mr_daemon> That should fix my problem according to people.
[05:51] <mr_daemon> What bothers me is that hotkey-setup basically just sources a file, for laptop key support...
[05:51] <hatred_> bob2_ one can't update from one release to another with ubuntu?
[05:51] <mr_daemon> Well, if it *is* what I think it is.
[05:51] <cdubya> ledh, you'll probably see a CD one listed first, then possibly an Ubuntu 5.04 source one, then a binary one
[05:52] <navarone> Mostro...keep the door closed...theres a draft
[05:52] <bob2_> hatred_: of course you can
[05:52] <bob2_> hatred_: if you update through each release
[05:52] <ledh> cdubya ... now? i clicked EDIT
[05:52] <hatred_> bob2_ i'd like to be using recent software.. is there a better way to do it than just using recent repositories?
[05:52] <black> hii all
[05:53] <mr_daemon> Yup no longer getting the error message. hotkey-setup was the culprit :) Case Closed.
[05:53] <dabaR> fr33mind: thats a big one. Dunno, ask crimsun, when you see him, or try alsamixer in a terminal, and try muting some things, use m to mute unmute. pcm and master must be unmuted for sure.
[05:53] <bob2_> hatred_: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HoaryUpgradeNotes, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgradeNotes
[05:53] <dabaR> !sound
[05:53] <ubotu> methinks sound is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingSoundProblems or http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SoundProblemsHoary
[05:53] <black> i have some proble here :(
[05:53] <cdubya> in the sections area, add the word multiverse at the end, then ok and ok
[05:53] <mr_daemon> bob2_: Thanks for reminding me to look at the bugzilla.
[05:53] <black> i already install php,apache, and mysql
[05:53] <bob2_> mr_daemon: fixed?
[05:53] <chalcedony> okies.. now how do i find abiword to get it with apt get?
[05:53] <black> but i can't connect my php with sql
[05:53] <cdubya> ledh, then click Reload on the main synaptic window
[05:53] <black> can any body pleaseee help :d
[05:54] <bob2_> chalcedony: wiki.ubuntu.com/SynapticHowto
[05:54] <hatred_> bob2_ but what if I don't have the bandwidth to update _everying_, and just want mplayer?
[05:54] <cdubya> ledh, and click on search again and run a search for j2re
[05:54] <bob2_> black: you don't seem to have asked a question yet
[05:54] <hatred_> bob2_ dialup is greatly limiting to my options :/
[05:54] <mr_daemon> bob2_: Yep, hotkey-setup was the culprit. I have no clue why as this usually loads laptop keys configurations.
[05:54] <Rev-Marc> how do I get flash to install ?
[05:54] <navarone> hatred are you on dial up at home as well or just your friend on dial up?
[05:55] <mr_daemon> bob2_: And it basically sources a file and loads a the sony vaio junk if needed... oh well.
[05:55] <black> my question is how to configure my php so it can't use mysql syntax
[05:55] <bob2_> Rev-Marc: wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[05:55] <hatred_> navarone just my friend.. its too hot here at the moment to go outside though
[05:55] <ledh> cdubya ... nothing---
[05:55] <cdubya> ledh, hmm.
[05:55] <bob2_> black: what does "can't use mysql syntax" mean?
[05:55] <ledh> cdubya ... can i just go back to WinX? xDDD
[05:55] <Rev-Marc> I tried that and it keeps giving errors?
[05:55] <ledh> cdubya ... this is too complicated for me -.-U
[05:55] <jl0gik> what is a good MP3 manager i like to rip cd's to my comp
[05:56] <bob2_> Rev-Marc: which none of use can see?  paste them to #flood
[05:56] <cdubya> ledh, sorry to hear that.
[05:56] <bob2_> jl0gik: I quite like abcde.
[05:56] <C-is-for-cookie> can people see me?
[05:56] <cdubya> ledh, there's great support for it.....
[05:56] <black> yes, when i use syntax "mysql_connect" in my php script
[05:57] <black> it show error like this "Call to undefined funtion: mysql_connect()"
[05:57] <ledh> cdubya ... i know... and you are helping me with some of it... i just don't get it why i can't install the JAVA thing!
[05:57] <navarone> hatred> I don't know if anyone has a iso available with software from repos...but if you could find them or packages yourself you could burn them to cd and your friend could add them as cd source
[05:57] <bob2_> black: so you mean "How do I configure php to use the mysql module?"?  installing it should be enough.
[05:57] <cdubya> ledh, we can try another way if you want
[05:57] <ledh> cdubya ... i just want to download music... is that too much to ask? =(
[05:57] <C-is-for-cookie> am i visible now?
[05:57] <cdubya> ledh, no
[05:57] <ledh> cdubya ... xDDD sure! tell me
[05:57] <hatred_> navarone seems like a massive hassle just to install something that can play videos unlike totem
[05:57] <ledh> cdubya ... n_n
[05:58] <black> yes that is what i meand :D
[05:58] <bob2_> hatred_: so use xine or something that's in warty
[05:58] <cdubya> ledh, applications > accessories > terminal
[05:58] <bob2_> C-is-for-cookie: obviously
[05:58] <ledh> cdubya, done
[05:58] <black> i already install it but it isn't working :d
[05:58] <MWettendorff> anyone here that can help a n00b with updating his x-chat to 2.6.0???
[05:58] <C-is-for-cookie> bob2_
[05:58] <bob2_> black: and you're using php4?
[05:58] <cdubya> ledh, sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:58] <hatred_> bob2_ well i'm trying to install mplayer, but everyone's telling me I have to update the whole system through two releases to install it
[05:58] <black> yes
[05:58] <fr33mind> I have sound in gdm and when I logged, I don't have sound anymore!  That was working this morning.
[05:58] <bob2_> hatred_: no one is saying that
[05:59] <black> i am using php4
[05:59] <navarone> C-is-for-cookie, I sense a theme running...you aren't Biscuitian-warhe as well are you...? lol
[05:59] <C-is-for-cookie> how do I direct an answer to you, the way you have to me
[05:59] <bob2_> hatred_: if you really want mplayer, you will have to jump through some hoops, yes.
[05:59] <ledh> cdubya, done
[05:59] <hatred_> bob2_ that's what you told me about 5 mins ago.. is there no other way to install it?
[05:59] <cdubya> ledh, do you see how some of the lines have a # at the beginning?
[05:59] <bob2_> hatred_: I did not say that at all
[05:59] <bob2_> C-is-for-cookie: type my name
[05:59] <ledh> cdubya, yup
[05:59] <C-is-for-cookie> bob2_
[05:59] <navarone> C-is-for-cookie, if you mean ahving your nick light up line you just type persons nick to have them see it highlighted
[05:59] <hatred_> bob2_ then what do i need to do to install mplayer?
[06:00] <bob2_> black: what does 'dpkg -l php4-mysql | tail -n1' print out?
[06:00] <cdubya> ledh, they're commented out at that point - untouched by apt
[06:00] <bob2_> hatred_: jump through many hoops
[06:00] <hatred_> bob2_ why is it so hard in ubuntu?
[06:00] <cdubya> ledh, so we can enable what you need here
[06:00] <bob2_> hatred_: oh, stop it
[06:00] <MWettendorff> anyone here that can help a n00b with updating his x-chat to 2.6.0???
[06:00] <bob2_> hatred_: it's hard in warty ecause mplayer wasn't in warty
[06:00] <C-is-for-cookie> navarone, so did this appear highlighted to you then?
[06:00] <navarone> hatred> if you prefer gentoo you should be used to finetuning from what i hear
[06:00] <ledh> cdubya, o.k
[06:00] <bob2_> hatred_: if you were on hoary or breezy or dapper, you'd be drink beer from a pot plant by now
[06:00] <hatred_> bob2_ so why can't I install it from a more recent repository?
[06:01] <navarone> C-is-for-cookie, yes
[06:01] <cdubya> ledh, do you have a line like this:
[06:01] <fr33mind> Heu, it's only GNOME sounds event my problem... gxine have sound.
[06:01] <black> is says "No packages found matching php4-mysql"
[06:01] <cdubya> ledh, deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy universe main restricted multiverse
[06:01] <C-is-for-cookie> navarone, thank you
[06:01] <cdubya> ledh, except sub hoary for breezy
[06:01] <bob2_> black: uh, then install the php4 mysql support package, php4-mysql
[06:01] <hatred_> navarone, gentoo doesn't have this particular problem because its not a binary distro.
[06:01] <bob2_> hatred_: really? gentoo 2004.1 can install mplayer from the most recent release?
[06:01] <black> how can't i install it ?
[06:01] <black> :D
[06:02] <bob2_> hatred_: http://www.linuxforums.org/tutorials/1/tutorial-25783.html
[06:02] <black> i'm sorry, because i am a newbie in linux
[06:02] <bob2_> black: what's your native language?
[06:02] <hatred_> bob2_ yep
[06:02] <ledh> cdubya, yup
[06:02] <navarone> hatred> i simply state that gentoo takes patience and time under the hood...so it should not be taxing on you getting ubuntu in order
[06:02] <Madpilot> black: have you read the Ubuntu wiki's Apache/MySQL/PHP page yet?
[06:02] <hatred_> bob2_ it might pull in a couple of other more recent libraries, but that's fine.. it doesn't say you just can't do it
[06:02] <sapaki> hi people
[06:03] <cdubya> ledh, you want to just copy all of that file, and throw it in the pastebin, then I'll change what you need and repaste it for you to copy back and save....? it may be easier....
[06:03] <hatred_> navarone i find gentoo 100x easier to use than ubuntu.. i find myself constantly struggling to do the simplest things in ubuntu all the time :/
[06:03] <bob2_> hatred_: apt should theoretically do the same, presumably you hit a bug in ubuntu, or the person who owns the system installed something broken in the past
[06:03] <cdubya> ledh, course, you wouldn't learn anything that way....
[06:03] <hatred_> bob2_ this was installed this morning
[06:03] <black> not yet
[06:03] <ledh> cdubya, you are the best man!
[06:03] <ledh> cdubya, i need a tutor! hahahaha!!
[06:03] <cdubya> heh
[06:03] <cdubya> I can't say I'm that....but I'll try to help.
[06:04] <MWettendorff> anyone here that can help a n00b with updating his x-chat to 2.6.0???
[06:04] <Madpilot> black: this will take you thru a complete install: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ApacheMySQLPHP
[06:04] <ledh> cdubya, well... you're helping me... period! n_n
[06:04] <sapaki> does anybody know if ubuntu has I450 printer drivers
[06:04] <navarone> hatred> i find people have specific needs and ways of doing things. CLI for folks who like dealing with letters and syntax and gui for visually inclined
[06:04] <cdubya> ledh, just paste it in the pastebin and let me know when you've got it there
[06:04] <black> where can i read the Ubuntu wiki's Apache/MySQL/php page
[06:04] <black> ?
[06:04] <hatred_> bob2_ this is literally default install +gcc-3.4+custom kernel+xmms so far.. totem says it doesn't know what xvid or mp3 is so i'm trying to install something that actually works
[06:05] <ledh> cdubya, well... you mean... copy it?
[06:05] <Madpilot> black: I just gave you the URL above....
[06:05] <covrigel> for some reason windows does not show up automatically with grub in the bootup, how do i add windows to it?
[06:05] <cdubya> ledh, yep, select all, copy, then paste in the pastebin....
[06:05] <Trackilizer> Hey guys need your help.
[06:05] <cdubya> ledh, name the paste so that I know it's yours.....
[06:05] <Trackilizer> I have this old 256MB MP3 player and would like to use it again.
[06:05] <bob2_> hatred_: totem is of no use.  install gxine
[06:06] <covrigel> anyone have any ideas?
[06:06] <Trackilizer> How ever i would like to format it first.
[06:06] <bob2_> black: what is your native language, out of interest?
[06:06] <bob2_> black: wiki.ubuntu.com/SynapticHowto
[06:06] <ledh> cdubya, done... i think... -.-U
[06:06] <Trackilizer> I tried doing that using gparted but all i can do with that is unmount the stick.
[06:06] <cdubya> ledh, hang on....
[06:06] <hatred_> bob2_ gxine requires libgtk2.0-0 and libfixes3 which apt refuses to install
[06:06] <Madpilot> black: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ApacheMySQLPHP
[06:06] <Trackilizer> So, how would i format it in FAT16?
[06:06] <hatred_> bob2_ so same problem as mplayer
[06:06] <ledh> cdubya, hmmm
[06:07] <bob2_> hatred_: entire error to #flood, including your apt line
[06:07] <ledh> cdubya, pastebin? x_x
[06:07] <C-is-for-cookie> the only thing I will use xchat for, for now at least, is for this group, so is there some way to automate logging in, so I don't have to type my password, or is it all by design
[06:07] <bob2_> Trackilizer: I'd be very careful
[06:07] <cdubya> ledh, http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[06:07] <MWettendorff> anyone here that can help a n00b with updating his x-chat to 2.6.0???
[06:07] <bob2_> MWettendorff: why do you care?
[06:07] <ledh> cdubya, n_n
[06:07] <bob2_> !+info xchat breezy
[06:07] <ubotu> Updating ubuntu files... please wait.
[06:07] <ubotu> xchat: (IRC client for X similar to AmIRC), section net, is optional. Version: 2.4.4-0ubuntu5 (breezy), Packaged size: 240 kB, Installed size: 664 kB
[06:08] <bob2_> !+info xchat dapper
[06:08] <ubotu> Updating ubuntu files... please wait.
[06:08] <ubotu> xchat: (IRC client for X similar to AmIRC), section net, is optional. Version: 2.6.0-0ubuntu1 (dapper), Packaged size: 247 kB, Installed size: 696 kB
[06:08] <black> my native language is indonesia
[06:08] <MWettendorff> bob2: becous i want the newest version
[06:08] <bob2_> hatred_: and the output of 'apt-cache policy libgtk2.0-0'
[06:08] <Trackilizer> I need to format it because it shows only 211MB of Free space instead of the full 256.
[06:08] <bob2_> MWettendorff: that's not a very convincing reason
[06:08] <cdubya> heh
[06:09] <bob2_> MWettendorff: if you have an actual reason to need it, it's in dapper
[06:09] <ledh> cdubya, done... i guess
[06:09] <ledh> xDDDDDDDD
[06:09] <smoet> 2.6.0 is in the backports
[06:09] <bob2_> if not, welcome to pointlesly compiling software
[06:09] <cdubya> ledh, k, hang on
[06:09] <bob2_> yay backports
[06:09] <hatred_> bob2_ the part i'm having the most trouble understanding is why apt refuses to install the dependencies it knows these packages need...
[06:09] <black> why when i use this command "sudo apt-get install php4-mysql"
[06:09] <MWettendorff> bob2: true.. but im only telling the truth
[06:09] <black> it said "can't find packages"
[06:10] <bob2_> hatred_: 'ls /etc/apt'
[06:10] <bob2_> black: perhaps because you didn't configure apt to look at universe?
[06:10] <Trackilizer> bob2_, so would you happen to know how to format a stick into FAT16?
[06:10] <bob2_> black: wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto
[06:10] <cmug> Anyone know how to Install Ubuntu 5.10 with no X, but with framebuffer (?) so I can use Graphical WWW from CLI (links2 -g)
[06:10] <Madpilot> black: you probably don't have the Universe repository enabled - the link that bob2_ gave you will tell you how to do that
[06:11] <bob2_> Trackilizer: I wouldn't
[06:11] <bob2_> Trackilizer: some devices cannot handle filesystems that aren't made by windows
[06:11] <bob2_> tho I have no idea why
[06:11] <C-is-for-cookie> could the length of my nick make it harder for people to want to talk to me?
[06:11] <bob2_> cmug: intall in server mode
[06:11] <bob2_> cmug: or just remove X later
[06:11] <bob2_> C-is-for-cookie: it's annoying, yes, but not a big deal
[06:11] <cmug> bob2_, i am that far. the framebuffer boggles my brain
[06:11] <bob2_> C-is-for-cookie: I just type C<tab> and it completes the rest for me
[06:11] <hatred_> Trackilizer mkfs.msdos ?
[06:12] <kacike> hello! Does anyone know how do I make Beagle daemon to start with the Gnome session?
[06:12] <Trackilizer> Well, i could copy and remove stuff onto the player without any problems, only it shows 211MB of free space.
[06:12] <C-is-for-cookie> I will change it then