[00:00] <dementor> hy i try to instal plesk b ut i cant i get this >http://nopaste.info/e51ca8a6f1.html
[00:00] <randal> ElementalWarrior, you can even chage the resolution of the boot up manager
[00:00] <dominicdinada> edbain as for reverting to an older linux i am unsure about that
[00:00] <Frantic> can someone tell me if there's a way to make the KDE4 task manager widget pin programs just like a dock? I've been rebooting to windows7 for SC2 recently and I really think the guys at MS got the taskbar right :)
[00:00] <nrodine> ok, I will just wait for a patch...
[00:00] <edbian> airtonix, dominicdinada, careful not to confuse causation and correlation.  I noticed a correlation between instability and up-to-dateness of linux distros.  Debian stable is much more stable then ubuntu 10.04 because ubuntu is based on debian testing ;)  I am using debian stable
[00:00] <nrodine> For reals
[00:00] <randal> Does anyone know how to make the menus transparent in the top panel thz
[00:01] <Jordan_U> ElementalWarrior: You'd have to either install it to the PBR (which is not recommended) or setup ntldr to load grub. If the F12 option you are talking about is in your BIOS I doubt it allows you to specify a partition rather than a drive.
[00:01] <ElementalWarrior> I think it does, im not sure
[00:01] <ElementalWarrior> I'll check and come back
[00:01] <ElementalWarrior> lol
[00:01] <airtonix> ElementalWarrior, this is correct. bios can only see drives not partitions.
[00:02] <coolbtk> I'm having a problem with 10.04 and my video cards. I have a custom built computer with a ATI Radeon 4870X2, and the integrated card is a Radeon 3300. On Ubuntu 9.10 x64, the 4870X2 worked perfectly. I did a clean install of 10.04 and now the 4870X2 won't work with my TV anymore. What's worse is that while the integrated card works, Ubuntu seems to think that it is an NVidia card. Anyone have any thoughts?
[00:02] <dominicdinada> edbain: ubuntu was based on debain by an older developer :) but ya back to my point how to restart or gain access back... cough in windows you just kill explorer.exe and then run it again... i cant figure out what is cause/controling this problem
[00:02] <edbian> dominicdinada, I'm sorry that linux is not going well for you right now.  I suggest you have patience with it.  It will pay off eventually
[00:02] <Ddorda> where's empathy directory?
[00:02] <edbian> dominicdinada, You can re-start the whole X-server (more server, ends your programs, and you have to log back in) ctrl + sysRq + k
[00:02] <ElementalWarrior> why isnt it recommended to install to pbr?
[00:02] <randal> Does anyone know how to make the menus transparent in the top panel thz
[00:02] <airtonix> Ddorda, in terminal : locate empathy | grep /home
[00:03] <edbian> dominicdinada, otherwise "killall nautilus" and "killall gnome-panel" ought to be pretty close to killing explorer.exe (not identical though!)
[00:03] <dominicdinada> edbain again no i cant this always happens at critical times as now downloading or transfering things
[00:03] <randal> ElementalWarrior,  why cant you use grub?
[00:03] <studentz> randal check this link http://www.webupd8.org/2010/05/enable-rgba-transparency-in-ubuntu-910.html
[00:03] <Jordan_U> ElementalWarrior: There is not enough room in the PBR to store code to read from a filesystem, so grub (or any other bootloader) would need to use blocklists, which are unreliable.
[00:03] <edbian> dominicdinada, You're misspelling my name ;)
[00:03] <randal> studentz,  thz
[00:03] <dominicdinada> lol opps
[00:04] <airtonix> !tab | dominicdinada
[00:04] <studentz> randal no problem
[00:04] <edbian> dominicdinada, I'm sorry what do you mean you can't?  What exactly is the problem / what are you trying to accomplish?
[00:04] <Ddorda> airtonix: erm.. didn't find anything really...
[00:04] <ElementalWarrior> while im fine with grub, I just would rather it be using the windows bootloader
[00:04] <ElementalWarrior> brb
[00:04] <dementor> hy i try to instal plesk but i cant i get this >http://nopaste.info/e51ca8a6f1.html
[00:04] <dominicdinada> airtonix ummm thanks for the info it seems as though a side effect of this problem is now i cant tab names
[00:05] <dominicdinada> edbian oh i cant restart for some time... I am trying to recover the other windows from the gnome panel
[00:05] <studentz> ElementalWarrior Windows bootloader assume that they are the only OS n doe not let any other OS install
[00:05] <airtonix> Ddorda, have you launched empathy yet ?
[00:05] <Ddorda> airtonix: yes
[00:06] <airtonix> Ddorda, 1. run gconf-editor 2. navigate : /apps/empathy 3. ??? 4. profit
[00:06] <edbian> dominicdinada, I still don't understand.  I'm sorry.  What do you mean "recover windows from the gnome-panel"  Is the panel frozen?
[00:06] <onetinsoldier> Fandekasp_: i would just add 'adm' back to the the user2 group for now. i tested it. i really don't know what the 'adm' group is and i removed it from my 'testbaby' user and it made no difference. it had no effect. so you might just want to leave users as part of the 'asm' group until you find out what it is. earlier... that was kind of a typo of mine anyway. i meant 'admin' group
[00:06] <studentz> ElementalWarrior I like Grub but there are a lot of third party ($) software to accomplish multiples OS installation
[00:06] <onetinsoldier> Fandekasp_: 'asm' = 'adm'
[00:06] <dominicdinada> edbian: well yea it wont let me open the other running or open windows back up... even if i kill the process's they still are stuck on the panel
[00:07] <habanany> hey guys . I having a hard time after I installed windows dual boot after ubuntu. help!!!
[00:07] <BlAck6j73> dementor: is that file in your home dir?
[00:07] <dementor> ies
[00:07] <Fandekasp_> onetinsoldier, yes I understand. but the user is not part of the admin group... I've found a solution, by adding an alias top='top -u user2' into the bashrc, but it's really poor ...
[00:07] <studentz> habanany more inf
[00:07] <edbian> dominicdinada, The panel is frozen and showing applications that aren't running anymore.  Is that correct?  Really the only option then is to re-start the panel.  Those applications are gone.  Does that makes sense?
[00:07] <dominicdinada> if I could take a screen shot i would but i cant even copy to clipboard either :(
[00:07] <Jordan_U> studentz: ElementalWarrior quit to confirm that his BIOS will only allow him to choose between drives.
[00:08] <habanany> I cant' boot ubuntu
[00:08] <onetinsoldier> Fandekasp_: i hear you. still better than nothing ;-)
[00:08] <airtonix> !details | habanany
[00:08] <BlAck6j73> dementor:  try apt-get install     deb file
[00:08] <Jordan_U> !grub2 | habanany
[00:08] <edbian> dominicdinada, Can you open a terminal?
[00:08] <dominicdinada> edbian: some are not running but some still are
[00:08] <valium> hi all - can anyone confirm if the package in 10.4  'samba4'  is samba version3 and not the beta of Samba v4
[00:08] <habanany> ok thanks
[00:08] <edbian> dominicdinada, Is the panel completely frozen and you can't open a terminal?
[00:08] <dementor> ok  i try
[00:09] <dominicdinada> edbian: yes i can open the terminal but i still can my file operations running will this kill those?
[00:09] <Time`s_Witness> i just installed ubuntu on my laptop, i connect to my wireless network, its connected as i see in ubuntu and from my router checking connected hosts, however i have no internet on it. if i try to ping an ip from it i get Destination Host unreachable. How can i solve this please? :X
[00:09] <edbian> dominicdinada, Say that again without the typos.  I don't understand
[00:09] <_blackwater_> valium samba4
 stiil not work
[00:09] <studentz> Jordan_U each HD has its own MBR and Grub, Wiin, MAC OSX and all third party software will replace it
[00:10] <valium> blackwater - its samba4 beta?
[00:10] <Fandekasp_> onetinsoldier, no I don't think it's good enough. In fact I would like to prevent softwares to sniff my computer (poker software do this). And if the software launch a top command, I don't think it will be aliased by the bashrc
[00:10] <BlAck6j73> dementor: do you have nc installed?
[00:10] <BlAck6j73> dementor: do you have mc   installed?    opps
[00:10] <Ddorda> airtonix: didn't find such a thing
[00:10] <dementor> mc ? i am new
[00:11] <onetinsoldier> Fandekasp_: roger. keep asking your question to the channel, like about every 5 minutes or so. someone will probably know. or, try posting in the ubuntu forums
[00:11] <coolbtk> Hello. I have a custom built computer with a ATI Radeon 4870X2, and the integrated card is a Radeon 3300. On Ubuntu 9.10 x64, the 4870X2 worked perfectly. I did a clean install of 10.04 and now the 4870X2 won't work with my TV anymore. What's worse is that while the integrated card works, Ubuntu seems to think that it is an NVidia card. Anyone have any thoughts?
[00:11] <Fandekasp_> onetinsoldier, ok thank you a lot for your help
[00:12] <_blackwater_> valium samba4 is alpha in the repos
[00:12] <valium> blackwater - so why is it the main samba package in the server 10.4 LTS?
[00:12] <onetinsoldier> Fandekasp_: sure, you're welcome
[00:12] <valium> blackwater - i cant find the samba3 package on any of the 2 servers i just installed
[00:12] <onetinsoldier> anyone know the difference between the 'adm' group and the 'admin' group?
[00:12] <BlAck6j73> dementor: try again   make sure is has       .deb      at the end
[00:13] <Kutakizukari> what do you type to save a nano file?
[00:13] <dementor> ok
[00:13] <_blackwater_> exalt ctrl x and y
[00:13] <edbian> Kutakizukari, Control + X  It should ask you (assuming you made changes)
[00:13] <studentz> katakizukary control X and choose Y
[00:13] <Jordan_U> coolbtk: Could you pastebin the output of "lspci"?
[00:14] <deco> why is it that when i turn on my desktop , it's consuming 840MB of ram so i restart and it's only consuming 180MB of ram now.. i restart again and it's consuming 800MB of ram again
[00:14] <deco> it's not X , x is only consuming 21MB
[00:14] <coolbtk> Jordan_U: sure. give me just a second to run that on that machine
[00:14] <deco> so no bad video driver
 thx theat make the jib
[00:15] <edbian> deco, Use the system monitor and determine exactly what is consuming it
[00:15] <Kutakizukari> thank you
[00:15] <onetinsoldier> Hello. if i make a user and he is not part of the 'admin' group, and i take him out of the 'adm' group, why can he still see all running processes from all users with the following command? --> ps aux
[00:15] <deco> edbian: i did and it's not telling me
[00:15] <BlAck6j73> dementor:  np
[00:15] <deco> edbian: just little processes like 21mb they are not adding up to 800MB
[00:16] <edbian> deco, Does it not list enough things?  What's telling you that it is taking 800mb then?
[00:16] <joaopinto> onetinsoldier, process lists are not user protected
[00:16] <deco> edbian: free -m
[00:16] <onetinsoldier> joaopinto: ok, roger. thanks
[00:16] <bastid_raZor> deco: http://www.linuxatemyram.com/    may help understand free
[00:16] <deco> edbian:  and on memory on system mananger
[00:16] <joaopinto> onetinsoldier, which is a reason to be cautious about using passwords on the command line
[00:16] <deco> bastid_raZor: i know how to use free
[00:17] <BlAck6j73> onetinsoldier: other uses may see them   but they cant stop them
[00:17] <deco> bastid_raZor: system monitor shows the same thing
[00:17] <deco> bastid_raZor: don't assume i don't know how to use it
[00:17] <joaopinto> I mean, plain text passwords as parameters
[00:17] <BossDJ> full screen mode using virtual server, wont work, any suggestions
[00:17] <BossDJ> theres a one inch black border around the whole ubuntu window
[00:17] <onetinsoldier> BlAck6j73: ahh, good :-)
[00:18] <edbian> deco, Free shows what is truly free.  Mine says 933 while sys monitor says 344.  The rest is "cached" what the system is keeping around cause it might be useful.  Techincally it is open cause the system will give it up if needed.  It's more complicated than simply "free" and "used" I'm afraid.
[00:18] <bastid_raZor> deco: using 'top' do you see applications using RAM?
[00:18] <BossDJ> virtual pc*
[00:18] <deco> bastid_raZor: yes i see some applications
[00:18] <deco> bastid_raZor: but they don't add up to 800mB of ram
[00:19] <edbian> deco, The linux stack is very good at handling ram!  Sys monitor shows what is being used by currently running applications.  free shows what is truly not being used by anything (not even the os itself)
[00:19] <bastid_raZor> deco:  can you screenshot the output of free -m ?
[00:19] <deco> edbian: this never happens in other distros
[00:19] <deco> bastid_raZor: okay just a sec
[00:20] <hexmare> Is there anyway to have the install files for Ubuntu on a USB drive, Boot from the CD , and then start the Install from USB ( No the system does not support USB boot )
[00:20] <edbian> deco, I'm using debian and the exact same thing is happening
[00:20] <deco> edbian: i mean ram consumption
[00:20] <deco> it's far less
[00:20] <deco> in other distros
[00:20] <linux_is_my_hero> anyone know if best buy's netflix-like service will actually support ubuntu/linux/etc?
[00:20] <Lazure> is there a particular reason why 9.10 livecd won't boot past the pulsing ubuntu logo on an old amd athlon XP machine with 512mb RAM, SB Live! sound card, and GeForce 2 video card?
[00:20] <bastid_raZor> linux_is_my_hero: ask bestbuy
[00:21] <Lazure> it just freezes on a black screen past the pulsing logo
[00:21] <studentz> linux_is_my_hero me too waiting for netflix in linux :(
[00:21] <linux_is_my_hero> yeah i asked geek squad they looked at my funny for using linux.
[00:21] <edbian> deco, my system and ubuntu both use "preload" which uses significantly more ram but makes all the apps start faster (in fact it even prioritizes the apps you use the most)
[00:21] <linux_is_my_hero> studentz: i use a virtualbox but i dont like it.
[00:21] <Lazure> edbian > like superfetch in windows 7
[00:21] <edbian> deco, You might wanna try "apt-get remove preload" and see if it helps
[00:21] <edbian> Lazure, Yes
[00:21] <BossDJ> hey alex
[00:22] <linux_is_my_hero> edbian: why dont they just make hdd's and fsb's faster?
[00:22] <deco> edbian: i don't have preload
[00:22] <coolbtk> Jordan_U: well, internet on that computer is horrible at best and it's not working at all right now
[00:22] <scq> Hello! I am using Lynx, with separate partition for /home. I was wondering if re installation would affect /home?
[00:22] <studentz> linux_is_my_hero yep you can  and vmware can virtualize video drivers But I want to be native in Linux
[00:22] <edbian> linux_is_my_hero, Making a hdd as fast as ram is pretty much impossibly right now but they're trying.
[00:22] <jon23> Not sure what happened
[00:22] <coolbtk> so I will try again later when I can plug that computer in. thanks anyway.
[00:23] <jon23> but ubuntu will not boot
[00:23] <linux_is_my_hero> studentz: yeah i agree id rather it just have linux support, for simplicity stability and speed
[00:23] <bastid_raZor> scq: only if you tell it to use the /home partition
[00:23] <edbian> deco, Then I'm not sure what is in all that cached ram space.
[00:23] <jon23> i suspect it has something to do with messed up packages
[00:23] <deco> edbian: hmmm i wonder why it's just in ubuntu , 10.4 in particuler
[00:23] <jon23> is there any package or system scanner from command line that i can use to i guess debug ubuntu
[00:23] <usuaria> Hola
[00:24] <edbian> deco, I am guessing it's the same feature I'm describing but implemented in different software.
[00:24] <deco> edbian: actually this has only happened in 10.4
[00:24] <deco> hmmm
[00:24] <deco> yeah
[00:24] <linux_is_my_hero> edbian & deco: my first linux machine is having issues.  my wifi logo doesn't show up on my panel, and that's if it boots.  its also having issues with the nvidea drivers.  everything was fine until a week after i upgraded. :-(
[00:24] <scq> bastid_raZor: During installation, what should i choose for /home partition?
[00:24] <deco> edbian: i'm kinda using this PC as a server too so this is really bad :S
[00:24] <nakw> how can iget the kernel source ?
[00:24] <onetinsoldier> usuaria: hello, hola
[00:24] <studentz> linux_is_my_hero I signed an open letter. I do not remember when and where. Now I'm trying 3D in my box with nvidia
[00:25] <bastid_raZor> scq: leave it alone unless you want to use it as home. the only way it will mess things up is you format it or the usernames are the same.
[00:25] <gartral> whats the command to control the auto screen poweroff function?
[00:25] <usuaria> Hola
[00:25] <edbian> linux_is_my_hero, When you get it to boot try adding the "notification area" applet to the panel.  That's where the little network applet hides.
[00:25] <edbian> deco, I'm researching it
[00:26] <linux_is_my_hero> word
[00:26] <bastid_raZor> scq: what i do is while booted to the liveCD i change the username on the /home partition to username.old  and then doing so will not matter and you have all your info on the partition
[00:26] <deco> edbian: bastid_raZor http://imagebin.org/97404
[00:26] <deco> thanks
[00:26] <linux_is_my_hero> edbian: word. thanks :-)
[00:26] <sistemas_> 1
[00:27] <onetinsoldier> gartral: not sure for cmmand line, might be gnome-screensaver command. there's also.... gnome-screensaver-command and gnome-screensaver-preferences commands
[00:27] <scq> bastid_raZor: !!Your english is bit confusing..oh so if i want to use my current /home partition to be same and active after re-installation, i should leave the /home partition as it is, right?
[00:28] <greezmunkey> scq: short answer: ys
[00:28] <greezmunkey> yes
[00:28] <gartral> onetinsoldier: it's xset -dkms is what im thinking of.. but i want to force my monitor off from ssh
[00:28] <adante> anybody here ran memtest on a macbookpro before? i'm getting a stack of errors, just wondering if they are false positives as none of the mac diagnostic tools are picking them up
[00:28] <bgupta> Question about sshd. Weems the version in hardy hasn't been updated since 2008. Am I missing something?
[00:28] <scq> bastid_raZor: And why do i need to change username?
[00:28] <SealedWithAKiss> I'd like to upgrade my CPU, however I don't know what CPUs my motherboard will take. I'd like to upgrade to the maximum that my board can handle, I believe that I have a socket 775 Intel CPU at the moment. Can anybody help?
[00:29] <jrib> SealedWithAKiss: try ##hardware
[00:29] <SealedWithAKiss> My BIOS is the newest version.
[00:29] <deco> SealedWithAKiss: this is an ubuntu channel not hardware
[00:29] <SealedWithAKiss> join #hardware
[00:29] <jrib> bgupta: hardy was released in 2008, that makes sense.  What's the issue?
[00:29] <scq> bastid_raZor: And why do i need to change username??
[00:29] <onetinsoldier> gartral: roger. i haven't used the xset command in ages myself
[00:30] <ToothPick> #hardware = invite only
[00:30] <bastid_raZor> scq: if your /home has username scq on it.. then reinstalling and telling the installer to use /home (the seperate partition) with username scq then it will complain about it existing
[00:30] <jrib> !register | ToothPick
[00:30] <bastid_raZor> scq: also if you're upgrading then you don't want the setting for 9.10 in 10.04 as some things have changed
[00:30] <bgupta> THere are a number of vulnerabilities with our version of ssh... and don't see any security updates.. wanted to make sure I wasn't missing anything
[00:31] <linux_is_my_hero> sealedwithakiss: google intel 775 socket and see what processors you can get
[00:31] <jrib> bgupta: there are updates in the -security and -updates repository that cherry pick security patches
[00:31] <onetinsoldier> gartral: xset dpms off  ...?
[00:31] <crimsun> bgupta: openssh-server | 1:4.7p1-8ubuntu1.2 | hardy-security | amd64, i386
[00:32] <bredtech> Hey, People!  :)
[00:32] <bredtech> Do normal USB Mobile Broadband sticks with with Ubuntu Linux? Like specifically the ones from T-Mobile and Virgin Mobile?
[00:32] <onetinsoldier> gartral: there is... xset dpms force {standby|suspend|off|on}
[00:32] <bgupta> crimsum, where is the cahngelog?
[00:32] <linux_is_my_hero> bredtech: the sprint one does
[00:32] <jrib> bgupta: aptitude changelog openssh-server
[00:32] <crimsun> bgupta: in the binary packages, on Launchpad, and on packages.ubuntu.com
[00:32] <bredtech> The Sprint one just plugs in and works...?
[00:32] <linux_is_my_hero> ubuntu has bult-in support for said devices, you can try #hardware or the ubuntu website to check for specific models' your considering purchasing
[00:32] <bgupta> so not here: http://packages.ubuntu.com/hardy/openssh-server
[00:32] <bgupta> ??
[00:33] <linux_is_my_hero> bredtech: ive tried it myself its pretty fast :-)
[00:33] <jrib> bgupta: there too...
[00:33] <bredtech> very cool. thanks.  Any experience with any Mobile Broadband USB devices from T-Mobile or Virgin Mobile?
[00:33] <scq> bastid_raZor: Well, i want to use my current /home partition to be present and usable as /home after installation. So, in this case, i should select /home (the one which i m using) and unmark format option and should not create any new partition for home? Right?
[00:34] <onetinsoldier> scq: sounds right to me
[00:34] <michael1982> hey all
[00:34] <linux_is_my_hero> nope. but if they really want you to get their broadband, take your computer in the store and make them prove it works. if they won't i would go to a different store.
[00:34] <michael1982> i need help with how to work deeveedee
[00:34] <scq> bastid_raZor: But i didn't understand about username?
[00:34] <onetinsoldier> !hi | michael1982
[00:34] <gartral> ok... bug: xset --help given over ssh wants a monitor specified
[00:34] <bastid_raZor> scq: correct. the existing username matters. if will give you errors if you try to use the same username.
[00:34] <Crash1hd> Ugg I somehow right clicked on the top bar and removed the dropdown to logout and restart? any way to get that back?
[00:35] <jrib> Crash1hd: right click -> add to panel
[00:35] <dabaR> Crash1hd: add the  right thing to the panel(right click
[00:35] <michael1982> ok can i ask a question
[00:35] <bastid_raZor> scq: do you understand what i mean?
[00:35] <jrib> michael1982: that's the only question that you shouldn't ask!
[00:36] <michael1982> lol
[00:36] <scq> bastid_raZor: my current /home partition suppose contain username A and B, and after re installation, suppose i create A, it will give errors and creating D will not?
[00:36] <michael1982> wats better
[00:36] <michael1982> xp or win7
[00:36] <onetinsoldier> michael1982: yes. just ask. ask it all in one line. state you problem in that one line.. what you are trying to do, and how you are trying to do it, and then finally, what happens when you try it
[00:36] <dabaR> you did that on purpose, michael1982
[00:36] <jrib> michael1982: ok, you should ask a question related to ubuntu support...
[00:36] <Crash1hd> jrdnyquist, dabaR either of you know which thing is the right thing to add?
[00:37] <sheerz> I smell a troll...
[00:37] <onetinsoldier> lol.. maybe
[00:37] <scq> bastid_raZor: my current /home partition suppose contain username A and B, and after re installation, suppose i create A, it will give errors and creating D will not?
[00:37] <michael1982> ok'
[00:38] <michael1982> how do i get exe programs to work such as games on ubuntu?
[00:38] <scq> bastid_raZor: there?
[00:38] <jrib> !wine | michael1982
[00:38] <bastid_raZor> scq: username A currently exists on /home. you can not use the username A when doing a reinstall. it will give you errors about username A existing. while in the the liveCD just rename username A to A.backup and install with username A .. afterwards you can copy over things you need back to A from A.backup
[00:38] <mackolin> !Play on Linux
[00:39] <dominicdinada> dang it only about 35 more mins until i can reboot
[00:39] <linux_is_my_hero> michael1982: *.exe is a windows executable. you can get a windows emulator like wine, or use a program called virtualbox that lets you run an os on top of another os (you can virtualbox windows so then u can run your games)
[00:39] <Crash1hd> ok found it :)
[00:40] <dominicdinada> !wine |michael1982
[00:40] <bastid_raZor> scq: yes what you said is correct.. A  and B will be fine D will be created no problem
[00:40] <dominicdinada> For the 2nd time
[00:40] <scq> bastid_raZor: Where are you from? :-)
[00:41] <gartral|droid> xset --help wants a screen too be designated when run from ssh... thats useless
[00:41] <Kutakizukari> How do I execute a .sh file in the terminal?
[00:41] <mackolin>  recommend to install games !PlayonLinux
[00:41] <tehran> Kutakizukari: /bin/bash file.sh
[00:42] <dominicdinada> michael1982: sudo aptitude install wine
[00:42] <onetinsoldier> Kutakizukari: first, you the .sh file needs to have it set as an executable... then ./<file.sh>
[00:42] <thewolf> Is it just me... but my date and time dosn't have the weather even though I have told it to... and specified a place... any help?
[00:42] <mackolin> Kutakizukari    ..    sh 'file.sh'
[00:42] <Kutakizukari> can the file be on my desktop to execute it?
[00:43] <onetinsoldier> Kutakizukari: yes. the desktop is just another folder/directory
[00:43] <Kutakizukari> onetinsoldier, thank you
[00:43] <HardDisk> Ubuntu mentioned on this week's Big Bang Theory Episode :) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X_mzgdQGwY4&NR=1
[00:43] <kahen> I've completely forgotten and I can't seem to find any documentation that says anything. Is relatime and nodiratime part of the default mount options?
[00:43] <onetinsoldier> Kutakizukari: you're welcome. on command line, try...   sh ~/Desktop/<file.sh>
[00:44] <dominicdinada> !mount | kahen
[00:44] <scq> bastid_raZor: Thank you
[00:44] <bastid_raZor> scq: good luck :)
[00:45] <kahen> dominicdinada: yeah, that was *real* useful... that mentions nothing about the default mount options

[00:45] <Sir_Konrad> how come I can't install XBMC from the Ubuntu Software Center?
[00:45] <bastid_raZor> !fstab | kahen
[00:45] <Woosta> I need to install both modperl2 and php modules on my box. But libapache2-mod-php5 requires apache-mpm-prefork while modperl2 requires apache-mpm-worker (whiich are mutually exclusive).  Anyone ever installed both? Am I missing something obvious?
[00:45] <Kutakizukari> onetinsoldier, I found out I need the file here /usr/local/sbin/ but it will not let me move it there. How do I get the file there?
[00:46] <scq> bastid_raZor: Hey, do you have your private chat disabled?
[00:46] <kahen> much better. thanks
[00:46] <onetinsoldier> Kutakizukari: sudo mv -v /path/to/<file> /path/to/destination
[00:46] <thewolf> Sir_Konrad... SBMC PPA is Ubuntu Tweak
[00:47] <onetinsoldier> Kumsa: mv = move command
[00:47] <thewolf> *XBMC
[00:47] <bastid_raZor> scq: i prefer to keep things in channel. :b
[00:47] <HardDisk> is it me or is it quiet in here?
[00:47] <onetinsoldier> it's not that quiet
[00:47] <Sir_Konrad> thewolf: what? Still can't see it.
[00:48] <onetinsoldier> but i have seen it a lot busier. just give it a few minutes ;-)
[00:48] <Solaris444> Hi guys, anyone here have experience with device mapper? I'm trying to re-add a disk to a degraded array.
[00:49] <thewolf> Sir_Konrad: do you have Ubuntu Tweak?
[00:49] <scq> bastid_raZor: Well, i only wanted to say about the english, it can be improved grammatically, else it would sound confusing :)   Anyways, thank you
[00:50] <Sir_Konrad> thewolf: no.  You might be able to get XBMC without tweak but tweak would be the eaisest route... and it is useful
[00:52] <Typos_King> Woosta:    hehe, I have not anyhow :), on the other hand, I'd think you should be able to install a .deb skipping dependencies :), I believe -prefork is the older version of -worker?
[00:52] <Randall> fuck is covered under free speach
[00:52] <Sir_Konrad> thewolf: do you install it through Ubuntu Software Center?
[00:53] <Solaris444> what on earth is Randall going on about?
[00:54] <Reign25> Jordan_U: Are you still there?
[00:54] <_blackwater_> apparently we're all sheep
[00:54] <Jordan_U> Reign25: Yes
[00:54] <Reign25> Jordan_U: http://pastebin.com/EFhGkWyR
[00:54] <onetinsoldier> Woosta: hello, you here?
[00:54] <bp0> how can i let the volume buttons work when the screen is in screensaver?
[00:55] <Woosta> onetinsoldier: I am
[00:55] <onetinsoldier> Woosta: roger. did you see what Typos_King said to you? if you need help getting packages installed, i might be able to help
[00:55] <Solaris444> Oh.
[00:55] <klh> anyone familiar with trident cyberblade/xp and how to get a better resolution than 800x600 ?
[00:56] <onetinsoldier> Woosta: would need to see the error messages
[00:56] <thewolf> Sir_Konrad: no... you have to install a repository from getdeb.... just type getdeb into firefox (or your webbrowser) and you will find it... technally it is "unsupported by connacil" but the community maintains getdeb
[00:56] <Woosta> onetinsoldier: I'll run apt from the cmd line and get the errors for you
[00:56] <onetinsoldier> Woosta: sounds good
[00:57] <Typos_King> Woosta:   you can always just do a -> sudo apt-get -d install PACKAGE;  to just get the .deb files, and then install manually yourself from /var/cache/apt/archives :)
[00:57] <Woosta> But as for Typos_King's comment, prefork is non-threaded and so PHP likes it. worker is threaded so mod-perl is OK with it. mod-perl should be OK with non-threaded of course
[00:58] <thewolf> Sir_Konrad: once you follow the instructions to install the getdeb repository just type Ubuntu Tweak into getdeb's search apps
[00:58] <klh>  trident cyberblade/xp video anyone ?
[00:58] <ja3k3l> hey
[00:58] <ja3k3l> the os determine oob files came as a png instead of leaker
[00:59] <Typos_King> klh:    I don't have one.. .but usually to change resolutions reliably you'd edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf :)
[00:59] <BigMacDawg> I'm hoping I can get some help. I'm new to Ubuntu and Linux, as a whole. I have set up a file server and now I am trying to set up CUPS on the server...
[00:59] <ja3k3l> ping
[00:59] <Typos_King> ja3k3l:   wha?   oob as png? who?
[00:59] <BigMacDawg> I have connected an hp photoshop printer via usb and cannot get it to print.
[01:00] <onetinsoldier> ok, he left
[01:00] <BigMacDawg> any ideas, please?
[01:00] <cabrey> I set up an ssh on a ubuntu server. for some reason, when I connect from another computer, it asks for my username immediately, but after I enter my username it takes a good 30-60 seconds for the password prompt to show up. any ideas?
[01:00] <Reign25> cabrey: Has that ever happened before? Is it a new occurence?
[01:00] <randal> http://www.webupd8.org/2010/05/enable-rgba-transparency-in-ubuntu-910.html
[01:00] <cabrey> Reign25: this is a new install of 10.04
[01:01] <Sir_Konrad> ok. Thanks thewolf.
[01:01] <klh> Typos_King I'd be lost w/out you </sarcasm> =) thanks anyway!
[01:01] <Reign25> cabrey: What OS was it running before? Was it the same situation?
[01:01] <dherde> I am having trouble setting up apache and virtual host monster. I added VHM in the ZM Interface and must have something wrong. Can anyone discuss with me to see what I messed up?
[01:01] <thewolf> Sir_Konrad: did you install XBMC?
[01:01] <BlAck6j73> BigMacDawg: print a test page
[01:01] <Sir_Konrad> thewolf: not yet. eating. :D
[01:01] <cabrey> Reign25: before it was running a version of CentOS and all was well. before I had other ubuntu versions on it and it worked fine then as well
[01:01] <dherde> Oops.. wrong forum sorry..
[01:02] <Typos_King> klh:    no problemo :P
[01:02] <Yum> :*
[01:02] <Reign25> cabrey: I'm not sure then :/ Hopefully someone here has an idea.
[01:02] <karan> hi i wanna change from ubuntu to mint linux 9
[01:02] <pdtpatri1k> good for u
[01:02] <cabrey> Reign25: yea I hope so, it gets rather irritating. I'll look through the config too
[01:02] <Sir_Konrad> lol
[01:03] <karan> is there a way to do tht wihtout a burning an iso to a cd
[01:03] <karan> like an update
[01:03] <karan> ?
[01:03] <BigMacDawg> bIAk6j73: I have tried that, but still get nothing. I'm not sure how to set up the connection when on the connection page for the printer setup.
[01:03] <Jordan_U> Reign25: Do you have any options in your BIOS that relate to ACPI or APIC? Also, if there is an option to disable floppy in the BIOS you should use it, since you don't seem to have a floppy drive.
[01:03] <Sir_Konrad> karan: check with the Linux Mint people
[01:03] <tripps> after great progress, i'm back to my laptop freezing up upon booting. I've been upgrading ubuntu on this laptop since feisty without a hiccup. Shame on canonical for creating something this broken. (lynx 10.04 LTS)
[01:03] <bastid_raZor> !mintsupport | karan
[01:03] <Reign25> Jordan_U: No, and yes, I do have a floppy drive. It's actually the drive that IS showing up in "Computer"
[01:03] <Typos_King> karan:    doubt it, for the sake of ease, you'll need the .iso later on for any reinstalls anyway, might as well get it :P
[01:04] <karan> ...fine
[01:04] <jX> So I'm having issues with a mdadm created raid. I boot, the RAID sin't working, so I pull up DiskUtility, it's all "This is started, but not working right" so I stop then start it, it's fine.
[01:04] <jX> any idea why? or how to fix it?
[01:04] <Jordan_U> Reign25: That's interesting.
[01:04] <Reign25> Jordan_U: Lol yes. Is it not showing up there?
[01:04] <onetinsoldier> karan: start up 'cfdisk' as root. delete ubuntu partitions, write to partition table, set up linux mint partitions, ect... install mint linux. done
[01:05] <BlAck6j73> BigMacDawg: is it a wireless printer?
[01:05] <cabrey> anybody have any reason why it takes a while for the ssh server to put up a password prompt after I enter my username?
[01:05] <BigMacDawg> BlAck6j73: no. it is connected to the server via USB connection.
[01:05] <Jordan_U> Reign25: Have you tried actually reading a floppy with it? There are a bunch of IO errors from /dev/fd0 which usually come from computers exposing a floppy device when none actually exists.
[01:05] <karan> can i keep my data? like how u update form ubuntu 9.10 to 10.04 with an update thingy....and i lost no data
[01:06] <onetinsoldier> karan: no. you'd have to 'update' to a new version of ubuntu. you can't go from one ditribution to another without a clean fresh install
[01:06] <cbrinke11> I installed dnsmasq, and it appears as though it does not cache things, how best to debug?
[01:06] <Reign25> Jordan_U: I saw that as well. Let me try something and dmesg it again. I haven't used a floppy in years, so I have no idea if it's still operable or not.
[01:06] <onetinsoldier> karan: so, you first need to save all the data you want to keep onto an external hard drive or something of that nature
[01:06] <thewolf> Sir_Konrad: Be sure to check out all of Tweak's abilities... you can change the xsplash screen (the background you see when you login) change which side (and in what order) your buttons appear on your windows... and most importantly add sources for your updates to check... just don't enable any of the ones that say "testing" or "weekly" or "daily builds" these are buggy ones meant to be fixed
[01:07] <BlAck6j73> BigMacDawg: what happens when you do      system>admin>printing?
[01:07] <karan> onetinsoldier> i got evrything backed up...now wat?
[01:07] <jr_> help pleas
[01:07] <onetinsoldier> karan: no you're on you own pretty much
[01:07] <Jordan_U> Reign25: Try removing the floppy drive, we probably won't be lucky enough that that fixes things but it can't hurt to try.
[01:07] <onetinsoldier> now*
[01:07] <onetinsoldier> karan: now* you're on you own pretty much
[01:07] <respire> my mouse and screen go crazy. i type stuff it goes into xchat and people can read it but it doesn't appear, i can't drag select things in terminals, lots of other weirdness
[01:07] <respire> what broked>
[01:07] <karan> :(
[01:07] <onetinsoldier> karan: start up 'cfdisk' as root. delete ubuntu partitions, write to partition table, set up linux mint partitions, ect... install mint linux. done
[01:08] <Provenzano> is there any way to simple compile ubuntu kernel according to my computer?
[01:08] <Woosta> onetinsoldier: & Typos_King: It was all about the order in which I did things I guess. I just got it to install using kpackagekit without resorting to the cmd line!
[01:08] <Reign25> Jordan_U: lol ok my fault, but I was thinking of the wrong laptop. This actually does NOT have a floppy drive.  I am trying a test print now...
[01:09] <Jordan_U> Reign25: :)
[01:09] <respire> and all my passwords are on disk
[01:10] <Time`s_Witness> im in ubuntu i just installed 10.04 and i connect to wireless network, however i have no access to internet for some reason. how can i solve this please?
[01:10] <respire> tho at least they are encrypted filesys, symetric wth gpg and with a password manager
[01:10] <Reign25> Jordan_U: Quick question while you're here: Is it normal for the right side of my screen to be full of black squares after a screensaver? I'm assuming not, but I can't get them off.
[01:10] <michael1982> how do i update my bios?
[01:10] <smellynosery> I changed my keyboard layout under System->Preferences->Keyboard, but it's still on the old one. I unticked "Separate layout per window" and I applied it system wide
[01:11] <tripps> Is there a command (like dpkg-reconfigure) that resets *all* packages to maintainer defaults?
[01:11] <Jordan_U> michael1982: Either make a FreeDOS boot floppy/CD or use http://flashrom.org/
[01:11] <cabrey> anybody have any reason why it takes a while for the ssh server to put up a password prompt after I enter my username?
[01:12] <onetinsoldier> michael1982: that can depend a little on you motherboard. on mine, i download the new .rom file onto usb memory stick. then boot into bios and theres an option in there to update the bios. i just select that and the .rom file and away it goes
[01:12] <skierpage> I've got built-in VIA8237 sound and an Audigy ZS card.  Sound from the latter breaks up (ZZEEEEEEEEPP) while there's any network activity.  Alsa prefers the Audigy.  What's the simplest best-est way to tell Alsa in Lucid to prefer the built-in?
[01:12] <BigMacDawg> BlAck6j73: print fails. /usr/lib/cups/backend/http failed
[01:13] <BigMacDawg> BlAck6j73:that's the error i get.
[01:13] <anbr> Provenzano: "ubuntu kernel" contradicts "according to my computer". not using a supplied kernel is not simple. what do you hope to gain?
[01:13] <Jordan_U> skierpage: System > Preferences > Sound
[01:13] <jjwdesign> Anyone know how to install Eclipse and the PDT?
[01:13] <onetinsoldier> tripps: hmm, not sure. what's the problem you're having?
[01:15] <Provenzano> anbr I hope win some performance
[01:15] <Chak82> hello
[01:15] <Provenzano> it is too difficult to a 'noob'?
[01:15] <anbr> Provenzano: a measurable performance gain? i don't think so
[01:15] <Chak82> i have some problems with lucid lynx
[01:15] <Provenzano> ok anbr =)
[01:15] <Chak82> i cant open gnome art manager
[01:15] <tripps> onetinsoldier, freezing upon loading up X. had it working just fine and for some reason it crapped out again. Dunno what did it and would like to avoid format/reinstall. Had to set i915 mode to 1 for it to work; now telling me /dev/fb0 doesn't exist if I go into failsafe, etc.
[01:15] <Provenzano> thanks ;)
[01:15] <anbr> np
[01:16] <skierpage> Jordan_U: Oops, I'm on Kubuntu.  What does System > Preferences > Sound do under the covers?
[01:16] <onetinsoldier> tripps: roger :-( don't know i can help much with that
[01:17] <BigMacDawg> BlAck6j73: on the connection screen, i select HP Printer(HPLIP) and move to the next screen. On the next screen, i'm not sure what connection to type in.
[01:17] <holmser> I keep getting a popup that says "apt authentication issue"
[01:17] <Jordan_U> skierpage: It changes pulseaudio settings, I don't know if kubuntu uses pulseaudio. You should as in #kubuntu
[01:17] <Jordan_U> s/as/ask
[01:17] <sam_2007> moening guys. quick question about Skype on ubuntu.  it wont let me log in says i have one already running  but i didnt open it and there is nothing in the indication area.  any ideas?
[01:17] <Time`s_Witness> how can i solve wireless problems please?
[01:18] <holmser> any idea what could cause that?  The warning says it could be caused by a proxy, but I'm not running a proxy
[01:18] <Reign25> Jordan_U: The floppy drive is disabled now, but now there are multiple black boxes on both sides of my screen. It's as if they are making a task bar on the left and right sides of my screen.
[01:19] <Jordan_U> Reign25: Try disabling Desktop Effects in System > Preferences > Appearance
[01:19] <Reign25> Jordan_U: Never mind. I just fixed it. It was a panel...odd.
[01:19] <Typos_King> skierpage:      system settings > multimedia :P
[01:19] <Reign25> Jordan_U: Yea. That's what I assumed it was as well.
[01:19] <Jordan_U> Reign25: Are devices still not being recognized?
[01:20] <Reign25> Jordan_U: I'm about to try now, but the floppy is still listed in "Computer"
[01:20] <onetinsoldier> ok, question. if you re-install a package, does it re-install the config files that come with the package? what if you have edited the config files? will it be overwritten with the maintainers that are included in the package?
[01:21] <BlAck6j73> BigMacDawg: what options do you get?
[01:22] <Zelozelos> onetinsoldier, you can possibly delete the settings then reinstall, but you'll have 2 be able to find the settings
[01:22] <JAMD456> Can someone help me? I keep getting the following error in terminal any time I run a command
[01:22] <JAMD456> Fontconfig warning: no <cachedir> elements found. Check configuration.
[01:22] <onetinsoldier> Zelozelos: roger. so if i want the Maintainers config file i need to purge the packge before reinstalling it?
[01:23] <axident> partitions creating problem! Can someone please help? Im new to Ubuntu so I dont know much about partitions sizes for Ubuntu and how it will be smart to part them. Hdd  size is 298 GiB so there are plenty of space to use! Please any suggestion?
[01:23] <Zelozelos> onetinsoldier, it help to know what pgm your tkin about, but purge may work as well
[01:23] <BigMacDawg> BlAck6j73: I am prompted to enter a connection, then it gives examples such as:
[01:23] <BigMacDawg> http://hostname:631
[01:23] <BigMacDawg> lpd://hostname/queue
[01:23] <Typos_King> axident:  suggestions for?
[01:23] <BigMacDawg> ...etc.
[01:23] <BigMacDawg> BlAck6j73:
[01:23] <FloodBot1> BigMacDawg: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:23] <BigMacDawg> BlAck6j73: i have tried all of them
[01:24] <karan> sexsexeseeeeex
[01:24] <onetinsoldier> Zelozelos: ok, roger. tripps is asking how to have all his packages restore the original package maintainers config files... for all his installed packages
[01:25] <BigMacDawg> Sorry.
[01:25] <axident> Typos_king: suggestion for size of partitions and how many?
[01:25] <colorlessprism> karan, not appropriate
[01:25] <Zelozelos> onetinsoldier, uhh, thats a big job, it's prob better to reinstall the sys
[01:25] <Reign25> Jordan_U: Still, nothing recognized.
[01:25] <onetinsoldier> I have a script that will re-install all packages that are currently installed on a system. but i don't think that alone re-installs the original config file that come in a package
[01:26] <Jordan_U> Reign25: Are there any ACPI or APIC settigns in the BIOS?
[01:26] <Jordan_U> onetinsoldier: With --purge it will
[01:26] <onetinsoldier> Jordan_U: yep, i know
[01:27] <onetinsoldier> Jordan_U: tripps is asking how to have all his packages restore the original package maintainers config files... for all his installed packages
[01:27] <Typos_King> axident:   at least 2, one for '/' root and one for 'swap', regular install will be around 2.5gbs, sooo, you can decide from there, if you can, you may also want a partition for your 'HOME' folder, and make others where you'd keep documents and videos/media, so when something happens and you need to reinstall, you only do it for the system partition, no  losing any multimedia or docs :)
[01:27] <Reign25> Jordan_U: No.
[01:27] <onetinsoldier> Jordan_U: don't think we'd want to use --purge for that, hehe
[01:27] <tripps> onetinsoldier, Zelozelos problem is somewhere along the way my network broke too so I don't even have access to repos. Really frustrating, and I don't know what changed since everything was working fine.
[01:27] <BlAck6j73> BigMacDawg: set the log to debug and pastebin it
[01:28] <tripps> 9.10 works perfect on my laptop, 10.04 is a catastrophe. Don't know how so much can change
[01:28] <onetinsoldier> tripps: are you only able to get to a recovery/rescue prompt atm?
[01:28] <ryanakca> I have a Communication controller: Agere Systems Lucent V.92 Data/Fax Modem . I am wondering if I can record my phone line with said modem?
[01:28] <Jordan_U> tripps: "sudo dpkg-reconfigure -a -pcritical" will almost do what you want
[01:28] <Zelozelos> tripps i still say its prob easier just to reinstall the sys, theres a lot of packages to reconfigure
[01:29] <onetinsoldier> tripps: are does the system boot ok but X just doesn't start?
[01:29] <Typos_King> axident:   I use a 10gbs for '/' and 1gb for 'swap', and use another partition where I keep my videos/mp3s/docs :)
[01:29] <koe> how can I login -.-" on irc ?
[01:29] <onetinsoldier> are = or
[01:29] <koe>     /msg NickServ and ?
[01:29] <Reign25> Jordan_U: Any ideas?
[01:29] <Zelozelos> but if you only need to fix like 5 or 10 things, its hard 2 judge
[01:29] <tripps> onetinsoldier, Zelozelos Jordan_U yes I can boot into recovery mode and do failsafe low res mode
[01:30] <tripps> but no network now for some reason.
[01:30] <GeekSquid> onetinsoldier: can I pass you ... sudo dpkg-reconfigure -a ....see 'man dpkg-reconfigure' #
[01:30] <onetinsoldier> tripps: roger. i'm kind of surprised that dpkg doesn't have a command to just restore config files only
[01:30] <koe> come one guys ... can someone tell me ? how can I login to IRC with a registred username ? /msg NickServ identity <password>  its not working
[01:30] <tripps> Jordan_U, ok I'll try that.
[01:30] <koe> come one guys ... can someone tell me ? how can I login to IRC with a registred username ? /msg NickServ identity <password>  its not working
[01:31] <Jordan_U> koe: identify, not identity
[01:31] <Pirate_Hunter> looking for a desktop weekly/day planner what are the options available?
[01:31] <jrib> onetinsoldier: --force-confmiss, no?
[01:31] <onetinsoldier> GeekSquid: i thought about that command.. but i believe that just reconfigures a package, with the config files it has. it does not restore the configs included in a .deb package
[01:31] <onetinsoldier> jrib: hmm, let me look! :-)
[01:31] <JAMD456> Can someone help me? In terminal every time I run a command Fontconfig errors pop up
[01:32] <jrib> onetinsoldier: or maybe confnew in this case
[01:32] <onetinsoldier> jrib: yep.. i think confnew
[01:32] <skiwithpete> hi
[01:32] <Typos_King> JAMD456:    try another tab or close the termianal and reopen a new terminal session :)
[01:33] <tripps> Jordan_U, -a -pcritical that is. then I'll need to reconfigure X to enable KMS like before; that's what got X working fine. Then I started to play with s2ram, s2disk and somewhere something got seriously hosed
[01:33] <onetinsoldier> tripps: might have something you can 'try'... at your own risk, in the lowres mode
[01:33] <Typos_King> JAMD456:    I'd think some prior running lost/zombie process
[01:33] <Jordan_U> tripps: KMS should be enabled by default in 10.04
[01:33] <tripps> Jordan_U, how about koala?
[01:34] <JAMD456> Typos_King No it has been happening all week even when the computer is shutting down I am getting a list of font config errors rather then the shutdown splash
[01:34] <Jordan_U> tripps: No, it was only enabled for intel in 9.10
[01:34] <onetinsoldier> tripps: just by looking at what your saying, i think chances are high you might just have to re-install from scratch. but i have something you can 'try'... i think
[01:34] <BigMacDawg> BlAcK6j73: I pasted the log. Were you able to see it?
[01:34] <auraCatalyst> Could someone help me get my partitioning done?
[01:34] <tripps> Jordan_U, I upgraded to koala, then upgraded to lynx
[01:34] <wildbat_laptop> auraCatalyst, what you need ?
[01:34] <tripps> had to enable KMS by doing the i915 setmode fix
[01:34] <BlAck6j73> BigMacDawg: you have paste the  address for me to see it
[01:35] <Zelozelos> tripps heh, upgraded, now theres the root of the issues there rofl
[01:35] <auraCatalyst> Mind if I message you, wildbat?
[01:35] <Typos_King> JAMD456:    can you paste it for use to see?    pastie.org or paste2.com or so
[01:35] <mattpat> Hey y'all, anyone know of a way to load new drivers without restarting? I just activated proprietary drivers for a wifi adapter, but I'm using the LiveCD, so I effectively can't restart to activate them
[01:35] <JAMD456> Typos_King will do
[01:35] <Jordan_U> tripps: Then just "sudo mv /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf-bak"
[01:35] <BigMacDawg> BlAck6j73: sorry about that. http://paste.ubuntu.com/435828/
[01:35] <tripps> Jordan_U, will the -a -pcritical return filees to 10.04 maintainer configs? I was careful to always choose maintainer's package during the upgrade
[01:35] <MASSAKRE> good evening
[01:35] <sergi808> evening
[01:35] <tripps> Zelozelos, tell me about it :-/
[01:35] <jrib> mattpat: you shouldn't have to restart, make sure they are loaded with lsmod I guess...
[01:36] <Scunizi> Thunderbird seems to send me the same email I am replying to.. how do I change this behavoir?
[01:36] <MASSAKRE> the Ubuntu 10.04 haven't intel 64bits version?
[01:36] <mattpat> jrib: I would hope I wouldn't, but there are several indicators that say "Your new drivers will not work until you restart," and in the wifi menu, it says "device not ready"
[01:36] <Typos_King> mattpat:   usually you'd do -> sudo modprobe DRIVERNAMEHERE;   you can get the name from the -> lsmod
[01:36] <onetinsoldier> MASSAKRE: yes.. one moment
[01:36] <sergi808> MASSAKRE: the AMD64 works for both
[01:36] <wildbat_laptop> auraCatalyst, ok
[01:36] <MASSAKRE> only 32 bits, and AMD 64bits versions?
[01:36] <jrib> mattpat: ignore the gui
[01:36] <Scunizi> MASSAKRE: amd/64 is also for intel
[01:37] <Jordan_U> tripps: It will if you add --force-confnew as jrib suggested
[01:37] <MASSAKRE> strange... the 9.10 has the 64 version, and AMD64 version
[01:37] <jrib> mattpat: at worse you have to restart some services or tools, but you need to make sure the module is loaded first
[01:37] <JAMD456> Typos_King http://pastie.org/966857
[01:37] <xangua> MASSAKRE: are the same
[01:37] <Zelozelos> MASSAKRE, the 64 bit architecture is modled after an amd processor, thats why its says amd 64 bit ;)
[01:37] <MASSAKRE> ok
[01:37] <MASSAKRE> thanx
[01:38] <shadmego> greetings!
[01:38] <gartral> whats the name of the chat application in ubuntu? and why wont it let me open a chat
[01:38] <axident> Typos_King: Your last suggestions seems to fit my mid best! I wrote something about this, but there were no suggestion or hint about sizes. Could you suggest who big I shall make them? I know that Ubuntu 10.04 install size is almost 3.4 GiB with only two partitions!
[01:39] <jrib> gartral: empathy?
[01:39] <mattpat> Typos_King: I'm not finding the module in lsmod, though that could be just because I don't know its name (though nothing even remotely suggesting Broadcom)
[01:39] <mattpat> jrib: Any thoughts which services I should restart for new wireless drivers?
[01:39] <ibkanat> I major mouse issues can I get some help? seems like this is the answer but cant get my mouse to take the adjustments http://patrickmylund.com/blog/lowering-gaming-mouse-sensitivity-in-ubuntu-9-10/
[01:40] <Jordan_U> Reign25: Are there any ACPI or APIC settigns in the BIOS?
[01:40] <Typos_King> mattpat:   broadcomm drivers go by BCM and some numbers
[01:40] <gartral> jrib: alright, what could be keeping empathy from open any chat on any network? i can edit, remove and add buddies, but not talk to them unless they open the chat first
[01:40] <jrib> mattpat: I'd try networking and network-manager.  No idea what you actually need to restart.  In my macbook's case, it "just worked"
[01:40] <Reign25> Jordan_U: Nope.
[01:40] <jrib> gartral: no idea, never used empathy
[01:40] <ibkanat> this is using lucid
[01:40] <mattpat> Typos_King: Yeah, nothing for lsmod | grep bcm :(
[01:40] <gartral> also, i cant set my status from the name panel thingy
[01:40] <Typos_King> axident:    I'd probably stick with a 10gbs, or if you plan to install some big packages like virtualbox and such, maybe 20gbs
[01:41] <ibkanat> also I read through http://xorg.freedesktop.org/wiki/Development/Documentation/PointerAcceleration
[01:41] <ibkanat> but still cant get the mouse to slow
[01:41] <SpiritOfSadness> !java
[01:41] <shadmego> Can someone help me with an issue in my upgrade from 9.10 to 10.04?
[01:41] <shadmego> I have a very strange message that I can't find anywhere (exactly)
[01:42] <mattpat> jrib: That worked, thanks :)
[01:42] <ibkanat> so any xorg experts feel free to jump in
[01:42] <ibkanat> xinput set-prop "Microsoft Microsoft Wireless Optical Desktop® 2.10" "Device Accel Profile" 2
[01:42] <ibkanat> property Device Accel Profile doesn't exist, you need to specify its type and format
[01:42] <skiwithpete> can someone help me get middle click working in firefox
[01:42] <shadmego> init: plymouth-splash main process terminated with status 1
[01:43] <skiwithpete> I don't think the 2button click on my touchpad is correctly configured
[01:43] <Zelozelos> shadmego, i can give you the shortest, sweetest answer, reinstall using the 10.04 cd, or you will deff have more issues then the current ones ;)
[01:43] <shadmego> any ideas?
[01:43] <skiwithpete> recon its an xorg solutionn
[01:43] <ibkanat> can someone tell me if 10.4 uses hal for the mouse or not
[01:43] <skiwithpete> middle click seems to do right click
[01:43] <shadmego> This error has caused my Linux machine to not boot
[01:43] <tripps> Jordan_U, you're saying I should delete the xorg.conf file?
[01:44] <Jordan_U> tripps: Yes, the default for 10.04 is not to have one at all.
[01:44] <dorgan> how do i look at an upstart script?
[01:44] <onetinsoldier> tripps: rename it if you rather. it does the same thing
[01:44] <JAMD456> Typos_King http://pastie.org/966857 the error I am getting
[01:45] <tripps> Jordan_U, ok done. let's reboot and see what happens.
[01:45] <ibkanat> hey just got a little something from xset m 1/25 0
[01:45] <Typos_King> JAMD456:   saw it :)
[01:46] <Typos_King> JAMD456:   sounds as if it there's an error in /etc/fonts/fonts.conf :|
[01:46] <JAMD456> Typos_King How do I fix it?
[01:47] <Jordan_U> Reign25: Try adding the kernel parameter "lapic".
[01:47] <Reign25> Jordan_U: How would I go about that?
[01:47] <tripps> Jordan_U, onetinsoldier no dice. frozen solid
[01:48] <tripps> booting back into recovery mode
[01:48] <Jordan_U> tripps: Frozen after rebooting after removing the xorg.conf?
[01:48] <tripps> Jordan_U, yes
[01:48] <shadmego> If someone is free, I could use a bit of help getting past a significant issue
[01:48] <skiwithpete> can someone help me with middle button emulation on a touchpad
[01:48] <BlAck6j73> BigMacDawg: its seems to have printed a pdf file
[01:48] <tripps> Jordan_U, I'm not convinced KMS is enabled :
[01:48] <Typos_King> JAMD456:   check your /etc/fonts/fonts.conf, maybe you have a missing <cachedir> entry, in mine is on line 73
[01:48] <tripps> running failsafe
[01:48] <gartral> shadmego: you should post your issue, know will know if they can help you untill we all know your problem
[01:49] <JAMD456> Typos_King will do
[01:49] <shadmego> ahh.
[01:49] <shadmego> I posted above and didn't want to flood the channel
[01:49] <axident> Typos_king. The partition for video/doc/mp3  is the /home?
[01:49] <shadmego> I have a client that updated their 9.10 ubuntu to 10.04 on Sunday
[01:49] <shadmego> Since then, they are getting the following error message during boot:
[01:49] <Jordan_U> Reign25: Hold shift during boot to see the grub menu, press 'e' to edit the first menu entry, then add "lapic" to the end of the "linux" line and press ctrl+x to boot.
[01:49] <Zelozelos> shadmego, seriously, you said you upgraded , you will encounter lots of issues this way, its best to install freashly from ce
[01:49] <JAMD456> Typos_King the line is not there
[01:50] <tripps> Jordan_U, booted into failsafe. should I take a peak at some logs?
[01:50] <Zelozelos> *cd
[01:50] <Typos_King> axident:   doesn't have to be, I use another partition for storing those
[01:50] <gartral> shadmego: then post all on one line, if it's a log, paste it too www.pastebin.com then post the link here
[01:50] <Reign25> Jordan_U: K. I'll try that now.
[01:50] <BigMacDawg> BlAck6j73: i assure you, nothing has printed. it is a multifunction machine and i did make a copy of a document. i'm not sure if this is what's showing up.
[01:50] <shadmego> init: plymouth-splash main process (#) terminated with status 1
[01:50] <gartral> !enter  shadmego
[01:50] <gartral> !enter | shadmego
[01:51] <Jordan_U> tripps: What is the output of "cat /proc/cmdline" ?
[01:51] <Jordan_U> tripps: And what graphics card do you have?
[01:51] <onetinsoldier> shadmego: i know what i would try, but i don't know if it would fix it
[01:51] <Typos_King> JAMD456:   mine looks like -> http://paste2.org/p/837301
[01:51] <tripps> Jordan_U, root=UUID<longUUID> ro single
[01:51] <rui> hello everybody
[01:52] <onetinsoldier> hello rui
[01:52] <Guest37140> Hi, anyone know how to stream audio from amarok to airport express?
[01:52] <BlAck6j73> BigMacDawg: open up a text file   put some text in it   and retry
[01:52] <tripps> Jordan_U, intel 82852/855GM
[01:52] <shadmego> Anything would help. I wasn't around for the upgrade so I don't know what steps were taken or what questions were answered.
[01:52] <BigMacDawg> BlAck6j73:will do...
[01:52] <rui> can anyone helpeme to installa web cam on Ubuntu 10.04?
[01:52] <Jordan_U> tripps: Is the recovery shell using the full resolution of your screen?
[01:52] <Guest37140> there's an option in the sound server to make airtunes devices discoverable, but I don' t know how to find them
[01:53] <bizkut1> vps for sale. please pm
[01:53] <Zelozelos> whats a vps?
[01:53] <rui> onetinsoldier:can you helpeme to install a web cam on ubuntu 10.04
[01:53] <JAMD456> Typos_King I am missing Huge Chunks of what is in your Fonts.conf
[01:53] <Jordan_U> bizkut1: Advertizements are not apropriate for #ubuntu
[01:53] <tripps> Jordan_U, I'm in failsafeX which is the correct res
[01:53] <mickster04> !ot | bizkut1
[01:53] <tripps> Jordan_U, recovery shell console would be if I switched to it
[01:54] <Smeh> I'm trying to create a softraid array in 9.10 using palimpsest but when i try and create the array is just reports "the daemon is inhibited". The installer partitioner doesn't seem to want to give me the option of creating a softraid so i don't know what to do..
[01:54] <rui> hello onetinsoldier
[01:54] <gartral> shadmego: you need to learn how to use irc before anyone can help you, i cannot follow you if you dont 1) post my name in front of each message so i SEE they're for me. 2) dont use enter as period. and 3) paste all logs/errors to a pastebin
[01:54] <Typos_King> JAMD456:   just bear in mind mine is for 9.1 :)
[01:54] <gartral> Typos_King: there is no such build!
[01:54] <Jordan_U> tripps: If your consoles (like tty1) are full resolution then you're almost certainly using KMS
[01:55] <Typos_King> hehe
[01:55] <BigMacDawg> BlAck6j73: can not print. when attempting to, the status of the printer says '/usr/lib/cups/backend/http failed. should i try to change the connection for the printer? could that be wrong?
[01:55] <Typos_King> gartral:   I guess I missed the 0 :)
[01:55] <onetinsoldier> shadmego: i would do this command to see all the plymouth packages that i have installed --> 1) dpkg -l '*plymouth*' | grep ^ii  2) run this command for all those package names --> sudo dpkg --purge --force-depends <package_name>  3) reinstall all those packages again with... sudo apt-get install <pacakge_name>
[01:55] <JAMD456> Typos_King in other words don't cut, paste and save :P ,Is there any way to restore mine
[01:55] <tripps> Jordan_U, well this is the "one time low res X" so may be vesa
[01:55] <gartral> Jordan_U: how do i fix that if im using nvidia drivers? im sick of ugly consoles
[01:55] <erghezi> i cant enable vsiual effects
[01:55] <Typos_King> JAMD456:   well, you can always try to do the cut/paste, just back yours up :)
[01:56] <Jordan_U> gartral: You're stuck with VESA resolutions when using a proprietary driver.
[01:56] <gartral> erghezi: you need a 3d acceleration driver
[01:56] <shadmego> onetinsoldir: I would love to try that,  or find a way around plymouth altogether, but I can't boot the system, not even to a working grub maint. shell
[01:56] <JAMD456> Typos_King I will try that :S
[01:56] <shadmego> onetinsoldier: I would love to try that,  or find a way around plymouth altogether, but I can't boot the system, not even to a working grub maint. shell
[01:56] <tripps> Jordan_U, actually looks like regular 25-ish line text console in this mode
[01:56] <gartral> Jordan_U: redhat/fedora can force vesa_high_res
[01:56] <onetinsoldier> shadmego: oh, i see. don't kow
[01:56] <onetinsoldier> know*
[01:56] <tripps> Jordan_U, how do I verify KMS' use
[01:56] <erghezi> gartral: i install it! i use 195.36.24 nvidia driver
[01:57] <BlAck6j73> BigMacDawg: Find out the LAN ip address for your printer    then  open a console and type the following      hp-makeuri    your ip
[01:57] <shotgun4us> list
[01:57] <gartral> erghezi: from repos or nvidia's site?
[01:57] <shadmego> onetinsoldier: As I currently see it, I have two options: 1. to reinstall everything from scratch. 2. Try to bypass plymouth which might tear the system up even further and then reinstall from scratch
[01:57] <rui> onetinsoldier: can you helpeme to install a webcam on ubuntu 10.04?
[01:57] <erghezi> gartral: from nvidia site
[01:57] <mrgenixus> I have a new kernel installed, but the new kernel panics becuase the grub config isn't set correctly; the old one runs just fine; I think the issue is related to the fact that I'm running in a Wubi install -- which is to say -- I'm running from a file on an ntfs disk, and when the kernel tried to mount root, it fails
[01:57] <tripps> maybe I'll uninstall laptop-mode-tools
[01:57] <Jordan_U> shadmego: Do disable plymouth just remove the "splash" kernel parameter
[01:57] <axident> Typos_king. I think I do only have one question more! do it make since to make a partition for stored settings? If yes, witch type shall it be?
[01:58] <BigMacDawg> BlAck6j73: it's not connected via ip or ethernet. it is connected directly to the server via USB cable.
[01:58] <erghezi> gartral: from this guide: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/howto-install-nvidia-drivers-manually-on-ubuntu-10-04-lucid-lynx.html
[01:58] <onetinsoldier> rui: nope.. sorry. i'm not familiar with how to install webcams or webcam software
[01:58] <mrgenixus> for whatever reason ubuntu seems to extra-complicate grub so I can't seem to find the file that isn't correct
[01:58] <mrgenixus> Ideas
[01:58] <gartral> erghezi: THAT"S your problem, you just screwed yourself hard! reinstall from scratch and install the nvidia driver from hardware profiler
[01:58] <onetinsoldier> mrgenixus: i hear you!
[01:58] <rui> onetinsoldier:thank you
[01:58] <rui> can anyone helpeme to installa web cam on Ubuntu 10.04?
[01:58] <mrgenixus> onetinsoldier: is your skin blue?
[01:58] <shadmego> Jordan_U: I tried removing the splash parameter and got a similar, though different error. I am not in front of the machine anymore so I can't repeat that particular error
[01:58] <BlAck6j73> BigMacDawg: I think its looking for an ip address
[01:58] <onetinsoldier> grub2 kind of sucks for configuring compared to the good old grub1
[01:59] <erghezi> gartral: he he:))
[01:59] <Typos_King> axident:    stored settings are usually at $HOME folder, so :)
[01:59] <tripps> Jordan_U, an other ideas? I've been fighting this for 10 hours now :-/
[01:59] <mrgenixus> onetinsoldier: tell me something I don't know?
[01:59] <mrgenixus> it doesn't seem like its designed to be configured
[01:59] <BigMacDawg> BlAck6j73: ok, i will try the IP address of the server.
[01:59] <gartral> erghezi: see ya laters. the #ubuntu community has 0 support for installing any propriotary driver from the manufactuer's website
[02:00] <Jordan_U> onetinsoldier: I disagree, I'll take separate clearly defined files over a single one with comments-that-aren't-really-comments and areas where user modifications will be silently discarded by update-grub
[02:00] <erghezi> gartral: so can you tell me, how to remove it?
[02:00] <gartral> erghezi: you've fucked you computer hard. I don't know a more blunt way to say it.. you need too reinstall ubuntu
[02:00] <onetinsoldier> Jordan_U: roger. well, i don't like it so far. i used to be able to help people with their grub problems. now, i don't even bother to try
[02:01] <Jordan_U> !ohmy | gartral
[02:01] <mrgenixus> Jordan_U: there's something to be said for staying with convention
[02:01] <Kennith> Should I be adding PPAs for any new programs I install?
[02:01] <Zelozelos> tripps, as i told shadmego and yourself earlier, if you upgraded and you're having issues, reinstall freashly from disk, itll be the best way to fix everyting ;)
[02:01] <Reign25> Jordan_U: To which line? There is one linux line, but at the end is "Quiet splash", but it's not the last line. Should I enter it there?
[02:01] <erghezi> gartral: but that's not solution ! i install ubuntu from alpha:(
[02:02] <Kennith> I've heard that the Ubuntu repositories aren't always up-to-date, and adding PPAs is a good thing to do
[02:02] <tripps> Jordan_U, I was afraid you said that. I got it working though for an hour or so before I started playing with suwsusp
[02:02] <Jordan_U> mrgenixus: Convention is broken, ask Ubuntu's grub maintainers that have had to deal with bug reports about the unintuitive behavior of legacy update-grub
[02:02] <gartral> erghezi: well.. time to download the release iso.. once you've installed the nvidia drivers from their site, you make chankes that are irreperrable in the kernel.. there's no more blut a way to explain it, you've toasted ubuntu
[02:03] <BlAck6j73> BigMacDawg: do you have hplip  installed   and what happens when you open the browser and enter    localhost:631
[02:03] <gartral> erghezi: perhaps next time you should read the warnings?
[02:03] <Jordan_U> Reign25: Yes, add it after splash (and on the same line as splash)
[02:03] <JAMD456> Typos_King Thank you for your help, I fixed the problem by adding the <cachedir> lines from yours to mine
[02:03] <mrgenixus> Jordan_U: ok --  fine.  it WAS a pain -- the devil you know and all -- that doesn't allow me to correct the issue
[02:04] <Reign25> Jordan_U: Thank you. Booting now.
[02:04] <BigMacDawg> BlAck6j73:I believe HPLIP is installed. it is an option listed. i am trying to install and configure the printer via the localhost:631 address.
[02:04] <Jordan_U> Reign25: You're welcome.
[02:04] <mrgenixus> I'm currently looking at the grub.cfg file, which I can't edit and make any real difference, and I can't seem to find the file I do need to change.. and that's less well-documented than ever.
[02:04] <rui> please help
[02:04] <onetinsoldier> Jordan_U: perhaps if they'd just put that darn /etc/default/grub file in with all the other ones! grrr... in /etc/grub.d
[02:04] <mrgenixus> this seems like a step backwards
[02:04] <gartral> erghezi: or.. petition nvidia to release drivers that dont suck... ohh.. wait.. we've been doing that for 15 years
[02:04] <BigMacDawg> BlAck6j73: That is the only way i know how to congfigure it.
[02:04] <rui> can anyone help me to install a webcam on Ubuntu
[02:05] <Jordan_U> mrgenixus: Could you pastebin your grub.cfg?
[02:05] <erghezi> gartral: i have a big bug. so I had to try it:(
[02:05] <anbr> rui: just plug it in. if any of your programs wants to use it, it will
[02:05] <mrgenixus> I can .. one sec -- there doesn't seem to be any difference between what works and what doesn't
[02:05] <erghezi> gartral: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nvidia-graphics-drivers-180/+bug/580167
[02:05] <mrgenixus> I have to conclude it's not a configuration problem
[02:05] <axident> Typos_king: Not more about partitions sizes. In the case I have to to fix/repair my system one day, what do I then have to do? Something with backup or how is it done at linux?
[02:06] <Reign25> Jordan_U: Nothing solved :/
[02:06] <papertigers> anyone have any luck mounting nfsv4 at boot?
[02:06] <mrgenixus> Jordan_U: and not with grub
[02:06] <nicolas> hi, I'm new to ubuntu, I have a ntfs partitioned disk that is automaticly mounted when I click on it in nautilus, how can I set umask for it?
[02:06] <rui> anbr: i have plug in and used cheese and he dont  find the web cam
[02:06] <mrgenixus> it might be I don't have the correct filesystem driver in the initrd?
[02:06] <gartral> erghezi: i can garuntee, a reinstall now will fix 90% of your bugs. you're literally at the bottum of the barrel when it comes to bad positions, you've made the mistakeo f updating from alpha>beta>release, and THEN added a completly unsupportable driver too your system!
[02:07] <Smeh> I'm trying to create a softraid array in 9.10 using palimpsest but when i try and create the array is just reports "the daemon is inhibited". The installer partitioner doesn't seem to want to give me the option of creating a softraid so i don't know what to do..
[02:07] <nicolas> atm it is 700 but I want 755 for the mounted volume(s)
[02:07] <anbr> rui: i don't know cheese.  type   gphoto2 -P   at the command line. what happens?
[02:09] <rui> anbr: im installing Gphoto2
[02:09] <wildbat_laptop> nicolas, you can't with gvfs( i guess, can't find a solution to it...) but you can mount is with ntfs-3g
[02:09] <smellynosery> I changed my keyboard layout under System->Preferences->Keyboard, but it's still on the old one. I unticked "Separate layout per window" and I applied it system wide. Does anybody know how to fix that?
[02:09] <shadmego> Jordan_U: I was wrong. When removing the "splash" kernel parameter, the same error message comes up - init: plymouth-splash main process (#) terminated with status 1
[02:09] <ChogyDan> rui: you can also try gstreamer-properties
[02:10] <nicolas> wildbat_laptop: so I have to mount the volumes manually instead of letting nautilus (or whatever is triggered by nautilus) do it?
[02:10] <rui> anbr: i try gphoto2 and give that message *** Error ***
[02:10] <rui> Could not detect any camera
[02:10] <rui> *** Error (-105: 'Unknown model') ***
[02:10] <Jordan_U> Reign25: Try installing the latest upstream kernel from here: http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/v2.6.34-lucid/ (be sure to install the header package as well as the image package).
[02:10] <wildbat_laptop> nicolas, yes sir if you want it mount auto, do it in fstab
[02:11] <Jordan_U> Reign25: Would you mind filing a bug report?
[02:11] <papertigers> anyone follow the nfsv4 guide on the ubuntu site and have it work?
[02:11] <nicolas> wildbat_laptop: but ntsf-3g and fstab don't work well together do they?
[02:12] <Reign25> Jordan_U: I think that was in the update.
[02:12] <Reign25> Jordan_U: Sure.
[02:12] <wildbat_laptop> nicolas, hey good ^^ ~ i was using it in 9.10
[02:12] <nicolas> wildbat_laptop: ok, ty for the info :)
[02:12] <rui> anbr: i try gstreamer-properties and he donts find any camera
[02:13] <tedddd> my themes are all messed up -- is there any way to easily re-install them
[02:13] <Jordan_U> Reign25: The kernel on that page is newer than the latest kernel in 10.04. It also doesn't have any Ubuntu specific modifications.
[02:13] <kcaze> Hi everyone, I sort of nuked gnome by trying to manually install GTK+
[02:13] <Reign25> Jordan_U: Gotcha. I'll install it now.
[02:14] <kcaze> So far I installed the following libraries: glib, pango, and atk
[02:14] <rui> anbr:my  web cam is a Vicious and Divine
[02:14] <kcaze> Now all my text has turned into squares that look like this: "[]". Anyone have any ideas on how to fix it?
[02:14] <rui> anbr:and have an usb connection
[02:15] <bwest> ok, let me rephrase the issue
[02:15] <rui> anbr:an usb port
[02:15] <sirninja> If I were to buy a new desktop computer, what kind of hardware should I get so it is most compatible with linux?
[02:16] <Reign25> Jordan_U: It won't let me install the package for I386
[02:16] <Jordan_U> sirninja: Buy one with Ubuntu pre-installed from companies like System76 or Dell
[02:16] <Zelozelos> sirninja, some manufacturers offer ubuntu systems now
[02:16] <kcaze> Does anyone know if I can fix Gnome by installing the rest of the libraries for gtk?
[02:17] <Zelozelos> sirninja, but 1 thing i wont suggest is an nvidea graphics card rofl
[02:17] <sirninja> lol. that's what I have now. I know exactly what you mean
[02:17] <anbr> rui: sorry, i don't know
[02:17] <rui> anbr:ok
[02:17] <LUCIDementia> I feel like I've tried everything but my wireless internet still won't work. I'm using a Dell laptop so I need to ndiswrapper to make it work but something's still wrong
[02:18] <rui> anbr:what can i do to have web cam with ubuntu
[02:19] <Jordan_U> sirninja: http://www.system76.com/ http://www.dell.com/ubuntu
[02:19] <sirninja> LUCIDementia: is it a dell studio? That's what I have. I had to install the package bcmwl-kernel-source
[02:19] <LUCIDementia> it's a Dell vostro 1500 if that means anything to you
[02:19] <Jordan_U> LUCIDementia: ndiswrapper is almost never actually needed
[02:19] <Zed`>  /llh
[02:20] <Zelozelos> LUCIDementia, i have a dell vostro, and i dont have 2 do anything for my wireless 2 work, but i guess you have a diff wireless adapter? hopefully you tried it b4 you started messin with it
[02:20] <sirninja> LUCIDEmentia: you should try installing bcmwl-kernel-source if it's a broadcom wireless card
[02:20] <Jordan_U> LUCIDementia: Could you pastebin the output of "lshw -C network" ?
[02:20] <LUCIDementia> it is broadcom
[02:21] <LUCIDementia> and it didn't work, which is why I started messing with it. Now I can see wireless networks but still can't connect
[02:21] <Jordan_U> LUCIDementia: What exactly did you try before ndiswrapper?
[02:22] <LUCIDementia> honestly I don't know. I just kept following instructions on forums that sounded similar to my problem but I rarely understood what I was doing
[02:23] <LUCIDementia> that and installing things from synaptic.
[02:23] <mohawkboi> Has anyone had any luck sorting Force Feedback for G25 in Ubuntu 10.04? I have tried everything in the forums and on google but no luck. Any ideas greatly appreciated :-)
[02:23] <anbr> rui: i'm not sure if a working  gphoto2 --capture-image   would be enough "have web cam" for you. paste the output of  aptitude show gphoto2
[02:24] <Hssan> any one can help me here ?
[02:24] <BigMacDawg> BlAck6j73: Are you still there?
[02:25] <Zelozelos> Hssan, please state the issue, if you have already and no-one answered just keep trying
[02:25]  * Hssan need help with ubuntu if any one can
[02:25] <oyo> hi
[02:25] <Jordan_U> LUCIDementia: Doing that can lead to configurations that will prevent even correct instructions from working. If you pastebin the output from "lshw -C network" I can tell you if your card is supported and by what drivers. Once we've figured that out I'd recommend a fresh install (if you haven't done much customization yet) to ensure there are no conflicting configurations.
[02:25] <BlAck6j73> BigMacDawg: yea
[02:25] <mohawkboi> If I am using a gaming controller for a game played under wine should I get support for force feedback for it from wine?
[02:25] <Hssan> Zelozelos can i pvt you ?
[02:25] <rui> anbr:i have the following message *** Error ***
[02:25] <rui> Could not detect any camera
[02:25] <rui> ERROR: Could not capture.
[02:25] <rui> *** Error (-105: 'Unknown model') ***
[02:25] <Zelozelos> Hssan, no, just state the issue(s)
[02:25] <FloodBot1> rui: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:26] <anbr> rui:     aptitude show gphoto2
[02:26] <Jordan_U> Reign25: What error message do you get exactly when trying to install the package?
[02:26] <Hssan> my issue is here http://www.just.edu.jo/~mzali/courses/Winter10/Cis345/Final_pr/CIS345_FinalPr_Winter2010.pdf
[02:26] <rui> anbr:explain to me im new to ubuntu
[02:27] <BigMacDawg> BlAck6j73: I've been able to verify that the server sees the printer on the usb ports. but connecting it in the CUPS localhost:631 page is still baffling me.
[02:27] <LUCIDementia> cool. I'm glad I'm interacting with someone that can make sense of this
[02:27] <LUCIDementia> http://paste.ubuntu.com/435846/
[02:27] <oyo> my ubuntu 10.04 is too slow when I maximize the window , who can help me
[02:27] <Hssan> i need to make finger command without use it
[02:27] <Jordan_U> Reign25: You need to install the linux-image package first.
[02:28] <Izinucs> BigMacDawg: go to the Admin tab and click "Add printers"
[02:28] <mrgenixus> oyo -- try turing off desktop effects
[02:28] <Jordan_U> Hssan: We aren't going to do your homework for you, let alone your final
[02:28] <Izinucs> BigMacDawg: actually when you plug it in the usb port typically ubuntu will recognize it and set it up
[02:28] <Zelozelos> Hssan, this is the ubuntu support chat room, ie, its for people who are having issues with ubuntu like, a driver or bug, not exactly for educational questions, try #ubuntu-offtopic mkay
[02:29] <seattlegaucho> !unity
[02:29] <Izinucs> BigMacDawg: I just came in .. so what printer is it?
[02:29] <anbr> rui: what ubuntu version are you using?
[02:29] <rui> anbr :ubuntu 10.04
[02:29] <Morell> Hello... how to install "lvm" from the live CD?
[02:29] <BigMacDawg> Izinucs: it's an HP photosmart. but connected to the server via usb.
[02:30] <Izinucs> BigMacDawg: server being a different machine? and where are you typing localhost:631? on your machine?
[02:31] <BigMacDawg> Izinucs: Yes, that is the case. Server is a different machine. i am accessing it via localhost:631
[02:31] <coppro> My wireless is periodically stopping working; it says "Device or resource busy" if I try a scan, but otherwise no error, but it won't connect to a network
[02:31] <rui> anbr:Package: gphoto2
[02:31] <rui> State: installed
[02:31] <rui> Automatically installed: no
[02:31] <rui> Version: 2.4.5-2
[02:31] <rui> Priority: extra
[02:31] <FloodBot1> rui: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:31] <rui> Section: universe/utils
[02:31] <Reign25> Jordan_U: The computer seems to keep freezing up on me. I can't get the download to finish. Do you think this is associated with the same issue? It's getting seriously frustrating.
[02:32] <Izinucs> BigMacDawg: so localhost:631 is on your machine.. that won't work to set it up.. you have to do it on the server
[02:32] <BlAck6j73> BigMacDawg:sorry I thought it was a attached directly
[02:32] <LUCIDementia> Jordan_U: I realize there's a lot to read there, but I just want to make sure you got the link. If not I can send it again.
[02:32] <rui> FloodBot1: ok im new at Xchat and past bin, please explain tome what to do i have an acccount with Launchpad
[02:33] <BlAck6j73> BigMacDawg: yea go to the server
[02:33] <IdleOne> !paste | rui
[02:33] <BigMacDawg> Izinucs: I see. how would i go about doing that? that means i've been trying to connect a printer to a machine that is not even connected physically. LOL.
[02:33] <Izinucs> BigMacDawg: server first with http://<ip address>:631
[02:33] <BigMacDawg> BlAck6j73:np.
[02:33] <greezmunkey> Hssan: ?
[02:33] <GTroy> any beginner questions I can help with?
[02:34] <GTroy> beginner-medium user?
[02:34] <Izinucs> GTroy: try #ubuntu-beginners ??
[02:34] <IdleOne> GTroy: just stick around and when someone asks a question you can help with then you help :)
[02:34] <BigMacDawg> Izinucs: I tried the server ip:631, however got 403 Forbidden.
[02:34] <GTroy> true, I thought I'd get in the way as fast as possible
[02:34] <BigMacDawg> i know i set up the CUPS on the machine.
[02:34] <mohawkboi> If I am using a gaming controller for a game played under wine should I get support for force feedback for it from wine?
[02:35] <GTroy> mohawkboi, is the driver installed in wine?
[02:35] <lordeden> I got a question, I just fixed my ati/fglrx problem and I noticed that scrolling and window movment across the desktop was jerky, is this because desktop effects are not enabled?
[02:35] <greezmunkey> BigMacDawg: try localhost:631
[02:35] <Izinucs> BigMacDawg: you can log into the server with ssh then use a cli based browser to access the cups server.. you might also ask in #ubuntu-server .. unfortunately I've gotta afk..
[02:36] <Jordan_U> LUCIDementia: Your card is supported by the STA driver, and the open source b43 driver (though a newer kernel than the one in 10.04 is recommended for b43)
[02:36] <aruj> I'd like to install a pastebin server for my intranet. Any suggestion?
[02:36] <Izinucs> greezmunkey: cups server is on a different machine.. being used as a print server ..
[02:36] <BigMacDawg> greezmunkey: localhost:631 does give me a page, but is that the page to configure printers connected to the server?
[02:36] <GTroy> lordeden, you might try it with the effects turned on
[02:36] <mohawkboi> GTroy I tried to install the software it came with under wine but it never detects the hardware. Logitech have not and will not supply a linux driver and I don't know how or if it is possible to install a windows driver.
[02:36] <randal> How do i make it when my windows open they open maximized
[02:36] <lordeden> gtroy: it won't let me turn effects on even tho I've installed the latest drivers from ATI
[02:37] <LUCIDementia> Jordan_U: hmm....that doesn't sound like good news. What should I do?
[02:37] <lordeden> I still haven't figured out why it won't
[02:37] <spaceace> I've got a 2TB drive that's purely for storing thousands of directories full of PDF documents roughly 1mb each. Will ext3 be fine?
[02:37] <daniel__> hello i am new to ubuntu and i would like to know how to install a program from tar.gz file
[02:37] <greezmunkey> BigMacDawg: Most likely, yes, browse around administration...
[02:37] <GTroy> mohawkboi, try the driver inside wine
[02:37] <GTroy> at least that's what I'd try next
[02:37] <b3nn> hey guys i want to run a scrpit when the user FAILS to authenticate. hopefully someone can point me in the right direction?
[02:37] <anbr> folks, is libgphoto2 upstream the central hub for supporting webcams? are there other other projects trying to do that?
[02:37] <mohawkboi> GTroy Thanks I should have thought of that. Will run off and try that. Thanks again!
[02:37] <Jordan_U> LUCIDementia: The STA driver should work fine with the kernel you have, and if it doesn't it's not hard do install a newer kernel to use the b43 drivers
[02:37] <GTroy> lordeden, is your gf card strong enough for the effects
[02:37] <Zelozelos> daniel__, whats the program you want 2 install?
[02:37] <GTroy> mohawkboi, sure my pleasure
[02:38] <greezmunkey> BigMacDawg: your cups server can be used to connect to printers on other machines...
[02:38] <lordeden> gtroy, it was turned on in 9.10, i'm running an ATI raedon 4850 with 512meg
[02:38] <GTroy> lordeden, yeah, that's plenty powerful
[02:38] <LUCIDementia> Jordan_U: well it didn't work when I first installed Ubuntu last Friday, so on to step 2. How do I get b43 drivers/kernel?
[02:38] <Morell> Someone who has done an installation on one partition lvm?
[02:39] <BigMacDawg> greezmunkey: can it be used a print server?
[02:39] <GTroy> lordeden, can you print your xorg.conf to pastebin and pm it to me?
[02:39] <Jordan_U> LUCIDementia: You specifically enabled the STA driver from System > Administration > Hardware Drivers?
[02:39] <lordeden> sure gtroy
[02:39] <ubuntu_> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1487293 Would anyone be kind enough to read that over, and try to help?
[02:39] <clone1018> Hey
[02:39] <Zelozelos> ho
[02:39] <clone1018> Any known deadly bugs with Wubi 10.04
[02:40] <greezmunkey> BigMacDawg: I dont know all of the details of your config, but you can make a local printer available to the network as well.
[02:40] <clone1018> I remember last time I used it I always got the bash/grub whatever errors :D
[02:40] <Zelozelos> daniel__, ??
[02:40] <LUCIDementia> I see. I did, but now I'm enabling b43. I feel like I've done this many times before but it seems worth a shot
[02:40] <mattpat> I would just like to throw out a quick shoutout to the folks that make Ubuntu the terrific product it is: I'm a Mac user, and while I still prefer OS X, Ubuntu is perhaps the most beautiful operating system I've used, in every sense of the word (not just visually)
[02:40] <mattpat> :)
[02:40] <BigMacDawg> greezmunkey: thanks, that's what i've been trying to do. but to no avail...
[02:41] <Jordan_U> LUCIDementia: Make sure you disable the STA driver when using the b43 driver
[02:41] <BigMacDawg> greezmunkey: i believe it may be something to do with how i'm setting up the connection on the connection page.
[02:41] <LUCIDementia> it automatically turned grey when I enabled b43, but wireless still won't connect
[02:41] <GTroy> lordeden, paste it into pastebin.ca and give me the link
[02:41] <FatalIll> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1487293 Would anyone be kind enough to read that over, and try to help?
[02:41] <lordeden> gtroy, got ya
[02:41] <GTroy> :D
[02:42] <arand_> GTroy: Unless you are absolutely certain you'll fix it, it's normally standard practice to post everything in channel, so that others can jump in should they have a clue ;)
[02:42] <MACscr_lappy> are the open source radeon drivers just prefered or do the properietery ones just not work at all with more than 2 monitors? Im trying to get 3 working correctly
[02:42] <GTroy> ya, good point arand
[02:42] <Izinucs> BigMacDawg: greezmunkey quick thought .. printer on the server has to be shared
[02:42] <greezmunkey> BigMacDawg: what clients will be printing, *nix or windows, etc? How is your network set up? You need to answer those. Write that up, and send it to http://paste.ubuntu.com - please.
[02:42] <Jordan_U> LUCIDementia: You can install the latest upstream kernel from here, http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/v2.6.34-lucid/ . Be sure to install the linux-image package first.
[02:42] <GTroy> arand, I'm curious if the driver is selected in the x conf file
[02:43] <LUCIDementia> Jordan_U: many thanks...but honestly I have no idea what I'm looking at. Do I just click all these links?
[02:43] <tripps> Can I do a fresh install on top of an existing install or do I really need to move my hundreds of GB of data somewhere, reformat and install?
[02:43] <mohawkboi> GTroy, Problen... Running the executable for Windows drivers with Wine will not work under Linux, as Windows drivers are not designed for the Windows kernel. Wine is for applications only - you'll need Linux drivers for your hardware. There are no linux drivers available for the G25. Yet the Ubuntu 10.04 forums and the ubuntu updates all state the G25 is supported.
[02:43] <Jordan_U> LUCIDementia: Are you using 32 bit Ubuntu or 64 bit Ubuntu?
[02:43] <lordeden> if pastebin.ca would show up i'd post it
[02:43] <Josesordo> hello all
[02:43] <LUCIDementia> 32
[02:43] <Jordan_U> LUCIDementia: 10.04?
[02:44] <LUCIDementia> yes. And I say 32 because I understand that that's the default
[02:44] <GTroy> mohawkboi, ok, I think it's plug and play
[02:44] <GTroy> mohawkboi, can you do a lsusb and see if it's recognized?
[02:45] <crankharder> how do I start/stop mysql in 10.4?
[02:45] <Jordan_U> LUCIDementia: First download this file and double click it to install it: http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/v2.6.34-lucid/linux-image-2.6.34-020634-generic_2.6.34-020634_i386.deb then do the same with this file: http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/v2.6.34-lucid/linux-headers-2.6.34-020634-generic_2.6.34-020634_i386.deb
[02:45] <crankharder> #service mysql start <-- hanging forever, doesn't seem to start mysql
[02:45] <sickgut> for the life of me i cant get my nvidia geforce fx 5200 agp video working in lucid the 71. series drivers seems to be dropped
[02:45] <mohawkboi> Gtroy Bus 002 Device 003: ID 046d:c299 Logitech, Inc. G25 Racing Wheel
[02:45] <GTroy> ok, so it's there
[02:45] <lordeden> gtroy, http://pastebin.com/e3Z8PgYP
[02:46] <GTroy> thanks lordeden
[02:46] <mohawkboi> Gtroy I think i need to find as GUI configuration program for it. I have tried joystic and no luck.
[02:46] <Morell> Someone who has done an installation on one partition lvm?
[02:46] <GTroy> mohawkboi, let me see if I can find something
[02:46] <BigMacDawg> greezmunkey:here you go! http://paste.ubuntu.com/435855/
[02:46] <mohawkboi> GTroy thanks HEAPS. This had me stuck since Ubuntu 8 :-(
[02:47] <Vigo> Morell: Yes I have, using Debian Lenny.
[02:47] <GTroy> mohawkboi, do you have a dual screen without xinerama on?
[02:48] <Morell> Vigo, hello
[02:48] <look> what is the latest driver install for the Intel Mobile 915GM/GMS/910GML Express Graphics Controller
[02:48] <Vigo> Morell: Hello
[02:48] <mohawkboi> Gtroy no I only have one screen.
[02:48] <look> and can i sudo apt-get it?
[02:49] <Morell> Vigo, I made a clean installation
[02:49] <psusi> look, eh?  you got a vostro v13 too? :)
[02:49] <daniel__> zelozelos sorry i was away... thank for your help...i would like to install clamAV
[02:49] <look> no i have an Acer TravelMate 4150 and need the drivers
[02:49] <GTroy> lordeden, does this look at all like any help? http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/programming-9/help-get-g25-driving-force-pro-support-into-linux-629288/
[02:49] <Vigo> Morell: It is the same system, are you having any issues?
[02:50] <Josesordo> I installed the ATI drivers in ubuntu 10.04 LTS (.run file from ati web site), but in hardware drivers said is not activated, so I tried to activated but failed
[02:50] <psusi> look, ohh... wha tmakes you think you need any drivers?  everything worked out of the box for me on my dell vostro v13 with that same chipset
[02:50] <Morell> Vigo, Ubunrtu
[02:50] <greezmunkey> BigMacDawg: perfect timing, I had to go for a bit :)
[02:50] <Zelozelos> daniel__, Klam av? as in the antivirus software?
[02:50] <Trenton> boot manager for two drives containing Ubuntu 10.04lts and vista premium.
[02:50] <look> psusi, i need accelerated graphics
[02:50] <LUCIDementia> Jordan_U: the second link gave me an error message about dependency not being satisfied. Should I restart and try again?
[02:50] <psusi> look, yea... and?
[02:50] <Morell> Vigo, but I have my "/ home" in one partition "lvm"
[02:50] <look> psusi, the driver ubuntu has HAS NO SUPPORT FOR IT
[02:50] <daniel__> yes... but is klamAV the same as clamAV?
[02:50] <psusi> look, seems to work fine for me
[02:50] <lordeden> gtroy, that's for logictech drivers
[02:51] <Jordan_U> LUCIDementia: Sorry, my fault. You need to install http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/v2.6.34-lucid/linux-headers-2.6.34-020634-generic_2.6.34-020634_i386.deb first
[02:51] <GTroy> no help....I'm thinking 100% compatibility isn't here yet, but I could be wrong
[02:51] <look> psusi, can you render a 2d plane to give it pemumbra sighting and set it to revise to 3d but still be 2d? i could do it with windows
[02:51] <Zelozelos> idk, but Klam av is in the repo's ;) for real though, you dont need any antivirus for linux, you'd almost have 2 install the virus yourself b4 it could do any harm
[02:51] <greezmunkey> BigMacDawg: ok, you want to first make sure your printer is supported. I take it that you have not yet been able to send a print job to that printer locally?
[02:51] <Vigo> Morrel: Yes, Ubuntu , I have done it on Ubuntu also.
[02:51] <tripps> Jordan_U, booting off brand new CD of 10.04 "try without installing" freezes in the same spot it does off my install. this doesn't give me hope. I guess I'm going back to jackalope. All that for naught.
[02:51] <psusi> look, no idea what all that means, but the 3d compiz fancy effects all seem to work smoothly
[02:52] <look> psusi, that means nothing
[02:52] <mohawkboi> GTroy thats my thinking to. But thanks for your help :-)
[02:52] <nomaS> how can i disable , energy savin at server?
[02:52] <GTroy> mohawkboi, you've got the ati proprietary drivers in?
[02:52] <GTroy> errr
[02:52] <GTroy> sorry
[02:52] <tripps> Jordan_U, clearly does not recognize my graphics hardware
[02:52] <look> can anyone help me with getting the latest intel drivers for my Mobile 915GM/GMS/910GML Express Graphics Controller
[02:52] <mohawkboi> I have a Nvidia card
[02:52] <daniel__> zelozelos, yes that is the reason why i switched to Linux, but i would like to scan files before transferring them over to my windows install
[02:52] <BigMacDawg> greezmunkey: no, i haven't. but i have seen that the printer is recongnized (make and model) as being on the usb port.
[02:52] <LUCIDementia> Jordan_U: Same message. Error: Dependency is not satisfiable: linux-headers-2.6.34-020634
[02:52] <GTroy> yeah, wrong person mohawkboi
[02:52] <voss749> zelo, I tried installing a virus on my linux laptop but I didnt have the necessary dependencies ;-)
[02:52] <Zelozelos> daniel__, ahh good reason 2 have one, klam does a good job
[02:52] <psusi> look, it means dri is working or the 3d stuff would be slow as balls
[02:52] <GTroy> lordeden, have you got the ati proprietary drivers in?
[02:53] <tripps> Seems canonical team really screwed the pooch with 10.04
[02:53] <Trenton> I am in need of finding a boot manager for two separate drives containing Ubuntu 10.04LTS and Windows Vista Premium both are 64 bit. If I go through the bios each time to change the hard drive boot sequence it messes with Vista. Any boot managers or tweaks to fix this problem?
[02:53] <Morell> Vigo, How to install "lvm"?
[02:53] <voss749> tripps how so?
[02:53] <mohawkboi> Gtroy all good lol
[02:53] <look> psusi, compiz works fine im useing cairo dock with it but i need to have the latest drivers
[02:53] <psusi> Morell, sudo apt-get install lvm2
[02:53] <look> psusi, if i dont then nothing works right for what i need to do
[02:53] <lordeden> gtroy, they are the ones off the website from my car
[02:53] <lordeden> card
[02:53] <Agu10> hi
[02:53] <look> psusi, i have to get some things in for school now can you help me get the drivers or not
[02:53] <Jordan_U> LUCIDementia: Sorry again, pasted the wrong link: http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/v2.6.34-lucid/linux-headers-2.6.34-020634_2.6.34-020634_all.deb
[02:54] <tripps> voss749, can't even boot 10.04 CD image without locking up my computer. Doesn't like my Intel graphics chip I've been upgrading since feisty
[02:54] <psusi> look, if you're running the latest ubuntu, then you have them
[02:54] <Vigo> Morell: Here is a good one: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=216117
[02:54] <daniel__> zelozelos, do you know how to install this: http://www.clamav.net/lang/en/
[02:54] <look> .......
[02:54] <crankharder> any ideas why 'sudo service mysql start' is just hanging and not atually starting mysql server?
[02:54] <GTroy> lordeden, it sounds like fglrx aren't working..you said you got them to?
[02:54] <greezmunkey> BigMacDawg: Does that printer have an ethernet port?
[02:54] <GTroy> lordeden, even with fglrx-control?
[02:54] <voss749> tripps, try booting in safe mode, I installed 10.04 just fine on my atom netbook
[02:55] <lordeden> gtroy, I installed them through the package manager
[02:55] <Morell> psusi, cómo instalo "lvm" desde el live cd?
[02:55] <tripps> voss749, I've been working on it for 12 hours now. no dice.
[02:55] <GTroy> lordeden, through synaptic, or the installed driver program?
[02:55] <lordeden> synaptic
[02:55] <Morell> psusi, how do I install "lvm" from the live cd?
[02:55] <psusi> Morell, my spanish isn't very good, but if I understood that correctly, if you have a network connection do ike I said and sudo apt-get install lvm2
[02:55] <voss749> tripps, It should work in vesa mode, thats not driver dependent
[02:56] <lordeden> I did the fix from this thread off the forum
[02:56] <lordeden> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1466085&highlight=10.4+ati&page=2
[02:56] <BigMacDawg> greezmunkey: no, it does not
[02:56] <lordeden> post #20
[02:56] <GTroy> lordeden, have you installed them from System-->Administration-->Hardware drivers?
[02:56] <daniel__> zelozelos thanks i got it installed
[02:56] <Zelozelos> daniel__, it seems 2 be pretty str8 forward, did you check out the manual? it gives the instructions
[02:56] <tripps> I've been using linux since 1994, compiling custom kernels and going through all the paces. used *every* distro out there.  What a waste of a day.
[02:57] <Vigo> Morell: That is how it is done, usually, with LiveCD or at base install.
[02:57] <Zelozelos> ahh, np have fun then ;)
[02:57] <voss749> tripps, upgrading is always a bit dicey
[02:57] <z3r0-c001> #debian
[02:57] <lordeden> gtroy, it says ATI/AMD proprietary FGLRX grahics drivers are running
[02:57] <__taco> I can't find Network Management icon any more.
[02:58] <tripps> perhaps if ubuntu doesn't like or recognize my hardware, it should tell me before I upgrade "hey you've got hardware that doesn't quite work yet. wait til a future release."
[02:58] <LUCIDementia> Jordan_U: I have now installed 3 packages. The first, the last, and the second ones you sent. Should I restart or is there more to do?
[02:58] <Zelozelos> heh upgrading is more then abit, more like 90% failure now, the other 9% will follow tripps
[02:58] <GTroy> lordeden, you tried this https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Troubleshooting/FglrxInteferesWithRadeonDriver
[02:59] <GTroy> and you got fglrx to work?
[02:59] <Jordan_U> LUCIDementia: Confirm that the STA driver is not activated, then reboot.
[02:59] <sirninja> my wired networking isn't working after a reboot
[02:59] <lordeden> it says that fglrx is not a broken package
[02:59] <xangua> __taco: in a terminal: nm-applet
[02:59] <lordeden> I've seen that page, it does the same thing as that forum post does
[02:59] <tripps> voss749 upgrading along the way since feisty without a hiccup on half a dozen machines. Now I'm scared to upgrade anything else on any of them. This leaves a horrible taste in my mouth.
[02:59] <lordeden> I uninstalled fglrx and installed a clean copy
[02:59] <greezmunkey> BigMacDawg: ok, have you dowloaded the cips .ppa driver package for your printer?
[03:00] <Morell> Vigo,  had my directory "/ home" in one "lvm"
[03:00] <greezmunkey> *cups, sorry
[03:00] <GTroy> lordeden, I don't think a broken package is the problem as much as it didn't get fully uninstalled/reinstalled
[03:00] <__taco> xangua: it say an instant is running
[03:00] <GTroy> lordeden, and so it's goofy with it
[03:00] <lordeden> so I shoudl try a command line removal and reinstall
[03:00] <Vigo> Morell: Do you mean /home?
[03:00] <gogeta> sweet i got samba working threw windows firewall
[03:01] <BigMacDawg> greezmunkey: no, i have not. how might i go about getting those?
[03:01] <GTroy> lordeden, yes, that is what I would do...I think that'll fix it
[03:01] <Morell> Vigo, yes my directory /home
[03:01] <__taco> xangua: in fact network management is working but i can't see the gui
[03:01] <GTroy> lordeden, follow the wiki guide
[03:01] <sirninja> How do I get my wired network working again after an update? Ubuntu isn't recognizing the device
[03:02] <lordeden> yeah I ran somethi g like this already, but I'll try it again
[03:02] <Morell> Vigo, I did a clean install, and now I can not access my directory "/ home"
[03:02] <lordeden> thanks gtroy
[03:02] <GTroy> lordeden, you followed it to the letter?
[03:02] <gogeta> sirninja: plug it in?
[03:02] <lordeden> from the thread I posted, yes
[03:02] <lordeden> not from the wiki
[03:02] <greezmunkey> BigMacDawg: look here: http://hplipopensource.com/hplip-web/index.html
[03:02] <sirninja> gogeta: lol. it is
[03:02] <Theravadan> it's 2010, i put in a dvd to play it on 10.04 and it doesn't work, wtf?
[03:02] <crypt-0> i have a problem with UFW not allowing 2 IP adresses for the same port
[03:02] <GTroy> lordeden, rule of thumb is to use the wiki
[03:02] <GTroy> lordeden, over the forum
[03:03] <z3r0-c001> id ubuntu came from debian does that make debian better
[03:03] <lordeden> gtroy, heard
[03:03] <greezmunkey> BigMacDawg: "Download HPLIP"
[03:03] <gogeta> sirninja: click your networking icong and connect
[03:03] <z3r0-c001> if
[03:03] <tripps> I mean, how can a modern operating system not be able to boot up cleanly on a widely distributed/pervasive chipset? And I'm a linux enthusiast/hacker for 16 years. How is a lay person supposed to do this. I'll end my rant there. Had to vent. Hope someone at canonical is paying attention. Looking at the forums I'm not the only one by far, Perhaps I'll try another distro now. such a shame, really.
[03:03] <Josesordo> my home folder was apart, in another partition (ext3), so when I upgrade my old ubuntu to this new one 10.04, I set the mount point --> /home, so when installation finished I cant see my old files T_T
[03:03] <sirninja> gogeta: The device isn't getting recognized, all it says is "No network devices available"
[03:03] <jing> hello I try find out how make a completely customized ubuntu. is there tutorial for this?
[03:04] <BigMacDawg> greezmunkey: thanks, actually, i think i may be doing that now. i was browsing the HP site and came across this and began the process. didn't know what it was called. thanks!
[03:04] <lordeden> gtroy, I got an error "Errors were encountered while processing:
[03:04] <lordeden>  fglrx
[03:04] <lordeden> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)"
[03:04] <gogeta> sirninja: try a restart maybe the driver got updated
[03:04] <sirninja> gogeta; I've tried that. :(
[03:04] <IdleOne> !remaster | jing
[03:04] <LUCIDementia> Jordan_U: I had high hopes but still no luck. Any other ideas?
[03:04] <GTroy> ok, you sudo'd it lordeden?
[03:04] <GTroy> that sounds like your problem lordeden
[03:04] <Vigo> Morell: http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/library/l-lvm/ <have you looked at that?
[03:04] <jing> Xie Xie Idle one
[03:04] <lordeden> gtory, yes, copied straight from the wiki
[03:05] <Jordan_U> LUCIDementia: Could you pastebin the output of "dmesg"?
[03:05] <IdleOne> jing: welcome
[03:05] <gogeta> sirninja: ok have you ran ifconfig eth0 up
[03:05] <gogeta> sirninja: sudo on that
[03:05] <lru> is there an easy way to recompile a source package in Ubuntu to force it to be static?
[03:05] <GTroy> lordeden, ok, I would try removing those thing from synaptic...not sure it'll work
[03:05] <GTroy> lordeden, but it's worth trying
[03:05] <greezmunkey> BigMacDawg: Here's generic cups info (near top of page): http://www.openprinting.org/printer/HP/HP-PhotoSmart_2600
[03:06] <GTroy> lordeden, this is from an upgrade? and not a clean install?
[03:06] <sirninja> gogeta: found the problem. Several kernel modules weren't being loaded for some reason
[03:06] <Vigo> Morell: And this one especially:> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpLVM-WithoutACleanInstall
[03:06] <BigMacDawg> greezmunkey: thanks!
[03:06] <gogeta> sirninja: mayaybe its just the network manager
[03:06] <onetinsoldier> lru: have you taken a look at ./configure --help?
[03:06] <lordeden> gtoy, upgrade, it's looking like I might just have to wipe and do a clean install tommorow
[03:06] <greezmunkey> BigMacDawg: Anyway, once you get the printer working locally, you can share it via samba very easily, and viola! Printe Server.
[03:06] <lru> onetinsoldier: yep... I was hoping there was some deb setting I could use to build the binary package... configure doesn't seem to help me
[03:07] <lordeden> gtroy, it's not letting me uninstall from synaptic either
[03:07] <__taco> I can't find Network Management icon any more, after I install b43 wireless and fglrx driver .
[03:07] <onetinsoldier> lru: there'll probably a '--enable-static' option in there
[03:07] <BigMacDawg> greezmunkey: Thanks! i'll give it a go!
[03:07] <gogeta> sirninja: lol i woulda got there evently i just go in order
[03:07] <GTroy> lordeden, that's your issue, you can't clean it out
[03:07] <lru> onetinsoldier: yep, but that seems to be for libraries :-(
[03:07] <aombk> hi people. i have a question to ask. does the mark/model of the soundcard play any part in audio latency? i mean, in order to lower audio latency, can buying a specific sound card help?
[03:07] <sirninja> gogeta: thanks for helping anyway. :P
[03:07] <lru> onetinsoldier: the app still shows libraries when viewed with 'ldd'
[03:07] <__taco> I can't find Network Management icon any more, after I install b43 wireless and fglrx driver . any help?
[03:08] <LUCIDementia> Jordan_U: http://paste.ubuntu.com/435866/  If you can fix this I feel like I should send you some payment through paypal or something. Seriously, there's a hell of a lot of text there that you're sorting through for me
[03:08] <onetinsoldier> lru: roger. i'm must admit, i'm not sure. for what package is this?
[03:08] <lordeden> gtroy, thanks for the help, i'll get started on that tommorow, gf is giving me dirty looks, her show is over
[03:08] <jrr> anyone else failing to resume from suspend with 10.04?
[03:08] <greezmunkey> BigMacDawg: I'll work in a few bars of blues bass while I wait.
[03:08] <lru> onetinsoldier: glabels... which is going to turn the app into a monster, with all the dependencies it has, but I need it
[03:08] <BigMacDawg> greezmunkey: lol, sure thing.
[03:08] <GTroy> lordeden, keep at it, it should be an easy fix looking back upon it
[03:09] <Vigo> __taco: Did you try hover mouse over the panel, Right Click>Add to Panel?
[03:09] <gogeta> __taco: you can configure it from your system > pref > network conections
[03:09] <lordeden> gtroy, there most likely is, but I need to wipe this drive anyway, wine stopped working on me as it is
[03:09] <gogeta> __taco: if the applet has failed for some reasion
[03:09] <th5418> hi guys
[03:09] <onetinsoldier> lru: well, i could try to download it and see if i can see a way to enable static, but i probably won't be able to figure out much more than you have. anyway, i recommend you keep asking the main channel the question
[03:09] <th5418> how can i reinstall my ubuntu, i just want to reinstall the OS!
[03:09] <lru> onetinsoldier: am I in the main channel? :-)
[03:09] <GTroy> lordeden, I was going to say a clean install takes around 20 minutes total
[03:10] <Vigo> __taco: Or what gorgeta said, that is a clean way also.
[03:10] <gogeta> th5418: insert the live cd
[03:10] <__taco> Vigo: can't find network management .
[03:10] <GTroy> lordeden, longer than we've been at this problem
[03:10] <GTroy> lordeden, we've been at this problem longer
[03:10] <th5418> gogeta: i have the 10.04 live cd, but it doesnt let me just wipe out my old ubuntu
[03:10] <lordeden> gtroy, yeah, but got to spend time with the SO before bed, it will have to wait til tommorow
[03:10] <Reign25> Jordan_U: I tried to install the headers again, but it still says I can't
[03:10] <onetinsoldier> lru: yes... what i mean is, keep aksing the question in here, like every five minutes.
[03:11] <tripps> ok wait just a second. booting from the livecd by adding i915.modeset=1 as a boot parameter works. hrrmph. So KMS definitely is not enabled by default, Jordan_U
[03:11] <lru> onetinsoldier: ahh, thanks
[03:11] <GTroy> lordeden, good luck, get some rest
[03:11] <__taco> gogeta: infact Network management is running
[03:11] <Jordan_U> LUCIDementia: Well, it seems to have associated with an access point at least. Can you pastebin the output of "iwlist scan"?
[03:11] <Vigo> __taco: Have you ever used Main Menu?
[03:11] <lordeden> gtroy, thanks, i'll most likely be here tommorow, later
[03:11] <gogeta> th5418: when it gets to the partating part of the install slect manual then check the format box in gparted for your linux part you will whip old ubuntu
[03:11] <gogeta> whipe
[03:12] <Jordan_U> tripps: Odd, it really should be. Could you file a bug report?
[03:12] <th5418> gogeta: won't that just wipe out my whole drive?
[03:12] <Vigo> gogeta: I liked the first one,
[03:12] <__taco> Vigo: how to open Main Menu?
[03:12] <gogeta> th5418: just the partation you slect to format
[03:12] <xangua> __taco: do you have notification area in the panel¿¿
[03:12] <th5418> gogeta: crap, i guess this time ill be smart and partition my drives
[03:13] <Vigo> __taco: System>Preferences>Main Menu
[03:13] <tripps> Jordan_U, apparently known already - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Bugs/Lucidi8xxFreezes
[03:13] <Jordan_U> tripps: If you install from that session it should add i915.modeset=1 to the configuration of the installed system, or of course just edit /etc/default/grub and update-grub from the recovery shell
[03:13] <gogeta> th5418: you said you whanted to reinstall everything
[03:14] <gogeta> th5418: if you used auto last time it probly also made a /home partation so your stuff in /home whont get formated you just wanna format the / partation
[03:14] <th5418> gogeta: i just want to reinstall the OS
[03:14] <tripps> Jordan_U, I'll try the latter first
[03:14] <th5418> gogeta: there is only one partition
[03:15] <__taco> xangua: no. i can't see the icon any more. at the begin network management icon in there.
[03:15] <gogeta> th5418: oh you didnt make a /home
[03:15] <Ubantu_dude> Ahh the Ubuntu chat, I havent been here in ages
[03:15] <th5418> gogeta: if i partition my drives, will it make /home in the other partition
[03:16] <LUCIDementia> Jordan_U: http://paste.ubuntu.com/435871/
[03:16] <Ubantu_dude> So Urbantu had a new release, does this mean Linux isnt completely useless on the desktop anymore?
[03:16] <gogeta> th5418: make 2 ext4 partation / doesent need to be very large thats where the os and apps get stored then for the second ext4 the mount point make it /home
[03:16] <th5418> gogeta: about how big should 1st partition be?
[03:16] <IdleOne> !ot > Ubantu_dude
[03:16] <gogeta> th5418: 10gb should be plenty
[03:16] <__taco> gogeta:network conections can configure wireless ?
[03:17] <Ubantu_dude> How was my question off topic?
[03:17] <IdleOne> Ubantu_dude: it isn't support related
[03:17] <Jordan_U> LUCIDementia: Well, networks are being detected. That's a good sign. Are they showing up in the network-manager applet? If so, what happens when you try to connect to one?
[03:17] <tripps> Jordan_U, what would you say to installing from livecd ontop of existing ext3 partition? data backed up of course. Should it leave my /home directory alone?
[03:17] <gogeta> th5418: then of course make a swap
[03:17] <Ubantu_dude> So where should I ask questions about Urbantu then?
[03:17] <gogeta> th5418: if it doesent aruldy have one
[03:17] <LUCIDementia> Jordan_U: it spins for about 30 seconds then says Wireless Network Disconnected. It shows full strength though, and worked just fine before I deleted Windows
[03:18] <IdleOne> Ubantu_dude: first off I don't know what Urbantu is but I know this is Ubuntu support channel
[03:18] <iflema> Ubantu_dude maybe in #urbantu......
[03:18] <gogeta> th5418: you should have a total on 3 parts swap 1gb is plenty / 10 gb /home rest
[03:18] <xangua> __taco: if you do not have notification area, then add it........
[03:18] <gogeta> th5418: to make a swap when it ask for fs type slect swap
[03:19] <Vigo> Ubantu_dude: And that is off-topic, /join #off-topic
[03:19] <gogeta> th5418: then when you wanna reinstall a os you dont have to format home
[03:19] <tripps> Jordan_U, no such file /etc/default/grub
[03:19] <Ubantu_dude> I asked about the latest release and that is off-topic
[03:19] <crazy7> how do I mount an ecrypted user directory?
[03:19] <Ubantu_dude> crazy7: prob. with mount
[03:19] <IdleOne> Ubantu_dude: you asked about Urbantu. what is urbantu?
[03:20] <Ubantu_dude> I believe Urbantu has something to do with Loonix
[03:20] <gogeta> th5418: if you ever need more space for apps you can always resize them later
[03:20] <__taco> xangua : have otification area, have volume controller icon there.
[03:20] <IdleOne> Ubantu_dude: ok here is a link you can read Please read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines and channel topics
[03:20] <greezmunkey> Ubantu_dude: Welcome Back! ;-)
[03:20] <xangua> __taco: volume control is now part of indicator applet, add notification area
[03:20] <Vigo> IdleOne: Thank you.
[03:20] <greezmunkey> heh
[03:20] <Ubantu_dude> Do I know you greezmunkey?
[03:21] <th5418> gogeta: should i make my OS my 'primary' or my 'logical'
[03:21] <gogeta> th5418: primary
[03:21] <__taco> __taco: gogeta:network conections can configure wireless ? I don't know how to scan wireless with network conections.
[03:21] <gogeta> th5418: linux doesent relly care
[03:21] <gogeta> __taco: yes it can
[03:21] <greezmunkey> No man. It's simple, Ubuntu support here, anything else #ubuntu-offtopic (a place to chill whilst you wait for a Q to be answered.
[03:22] <Jordan_U> tripps: Ahh, you aren't automatically upgraded to grub2 even though it's the default since 9.10.
[03:22] <gogeta> __taco: just slect the wireless tab
[03:22] <crazy7> ok, so, I reinstalled Ubuntu without reformatting. There was an encrypted user directory for a differently named user already there. Is there any way to mount that?
[03:22] <__taco> gogeta: how use it to scan wireless networking ?
[03:22] <onetinsoldier> lru: hi. i downloaded the source and did an apt-get build-dep glables. but i'm not quite familiar with how the patch is delivered. i used to there just being a '.diff' file
[03:23] <Omen_20> Anyone know if the MeMenu will eventually show what broadcast accounts are active in gwibber?
[03:23] <lfitz> hi, i am having trouble getting eclipse and android sdk to work on 10.04 64-bit... has anyone here got this working?
[03:23] <gogeta> __taco: you dont relly need to fill in all the info just the ssid and key will work fine
[03:23] <Jordan_U> tripps: To do it with grub legacy edit /boot/grub/menu.lst. You need to edit the line that starts "# defoptions=" (but don't uncomment it, it's not actually a comment)
[03:23] <Jordan_U> tripps: Then run update-grub
[03:23] <tripps> Jordan_U, how to upgrade to grub2?
[03:23] <Ubantu_dude> Ok fine I have a question, how do I do load balancing across two T1 connections on hdlc0 and hdlc1?
[03:23] <__taco> gogeta: thanks very much. I will try it tonight.
[03:23] <IdleOne> Ubantu_dude: that has nothing to do with ubuntu
[03:24] <IdleOne> Ubantu_dude: you want #networking
[03:24] <Ubantu_dude> Ok let me ask a serious question then
[03:24] <IdleOne> Ubantu_dude: please don't troll.
[03:24] <psusi> Ubantu_dude, get a fancy cisco router and talk to your isp providing you with both connections... better yet, upgrade to a fractional t3
[03:24] <gogeta> __taco: the audo may be confliting with your applet sometime just deleting the old settings from there will make it work again
[03:24] <Ubantu_dude> I dont want a DS3 I want 3.08 Mbps
[03:24] <greezmunkey> Ubantu_dude: man mlppp
[03:24] <IdleOne> psusi: don't feed
[03:25] <Jordan_U> tripps: sudo apt-get install grub-pc. You will be offered the choice to have grub2 loaded from grub legacy to confirm everything works, if you choose to do that you can run "sudo upgrade-from-grub-legacy" to actually replace grub legacy with grub2.
[03:25] <Ubantu_dude> Why does bonding only support ethernet?
[03:25] <gogeta> __taco: old
[03:25] <psusi> sorry, just tabbed in for a second and saw what looked like an interesting question... back to working on e2defrag I guess...
[03:25] <greezmunkey> yikes
[03:25] <Ubantu_dude> I know I can trick the hdlc driver to bridge frame relay devices with the pvceth interface but it doesnt work for bonding, why not
[03:25] <__taco> gogeta: what old setting?
[03:25] <IdleOne> Ubantu_dude: I am going to ask you one more time to remain on topic for this channel.
[03:26] <gogeta> __taco: your wireless settings get sotred in that app
[03:26] <gogeta> sotred
[03:26] <gogeta> stored
[03:26] <Ubantu_dude> So I my networking questions that I have while using ubuntu I cant ask in the ubuntu chat?
[03:26] <shig> my Ubuntu 10.04 64bit is not automouting iPods since install. Flashdrives work OK, but iPods are recognized in "lsusb", but not automounted. Can anybody help me?
[03:26] <IdleOne> psusi: you can help if you like but take it to another channel. it is not ubuntu related so will just cause extra scroll in here.
[03:26] <__taco> gogeta: how to get rid of it , i can't see the gui of it .
[03:27] <LUCIDementia> Jordan_U: have we come to a dead end?
[03:27] <gogeta> __taco: same place i told you to go
[03:27] <IdleOne> Ubantu_dude: correct, because you netwroking question has nothing to do with ubuntu
[03:27] <Ubantu_dude> So ubuntu doesnt support networking anymore?
[03:27] <__taco> network connection?
[03:27] <__taco> gogeta:network connection?
[03:27] <onetinsoldier> Ubantu_dude: have you tried asking in #networking?
[03:28] <daniel__> anyone know how to install i386 software on 64 bit ubuntu 10.04
[03:28] <gogeta> __taco: sometimes that can be a unrealible scriipt
[03:28] <mattpat> IdleOne: I am infinitely impressed by your long-standing patience on that one
[03:28] <gogeta> __taco: wicd is a good alt
[03:28] <gogeta> __taco: if you wanna gui script
[03:29] <onetinsoldier> daniel__: you just download the 32-bit installer for ubuntu. or, if your running 64-bit ubuntu, install the 32-bit libraries/environment
[03:29] <th5418> gogeta
[03:29] <th5418> are you still there
[03:29] <gogeta> th5418: always
[03:29] <th5418> gogeta: i should have a 1gb swap?
[03:29] <gogeta> th5418: yea should be plenty
[03:29] <daniel__> onetinsoldier could you show me how to do that... im new to ubuntu
[03:29] <Jordan_U> LUCIDementia: Probably. See if you can connect to the unsecured wireless network though. (I suspect the problem is with authentication)
[03:30] <gogeta> th5418: just close to it it whont be excat
[03:30] <th5418> gogeta: my 10gb with the main on it, should it be /home or /usr or what
[03:30]  * greezmunkey watches Ubantu-dude diss us in #ubuntu-offtopic
[03:30] <th5418> my other 'crap' of stuff is just /home right
[03:30] <gogeta> th5418: it should be / for the mount point
[03:30] <LUCIDementia> Jordan_U: my network is not password protected
[03:30] <xiambax> So today I bought a Quadcore iMac i7 but am having issues installing ubuntu via Parallels
[03:30] <gogeta> th5418: that justmeans root
[03:30] <th5418> gogeta: what should the 1gb be for the mount point
[03:30] <xiambax> I get an i/o error when booting to iso
[03:30] <gogeta> th5418: none just file system type swap
[03:31] <onetinsoldier> daniel__: okm you want o install 32-bit version of ubuntu? is that correct?
[03:31] <trippsss> how important is it to upgrade to grub2? what features does it have that I'll miss out on?
[03:31] <th5418> gogeta: with 10.04, there's a choice for swap area, i guess that's it?
[03:31] <LUCIDementia> Jordan_U: another problem is that my dvd player isn't working, so I haven't put any of my files back on. So if reinstalling would help that wouldn't be a problem. I'd just need to know what to do after
[03:31] <Reign25> Jordan_U: I tried to install the headers again, but it still says I can't
[03:31] <daniel__> onetinsoldier i just want to be able to install a program that is 32 bit architechture
[03:31] <Docteh> trippsss: its more complicated ;)
[03:31] <xiambax> Anyone have any idea?
[03:31] <onetinsoldier> daniel__: or are you wanting to install the 32-bit library/environment?
[03:31] <gogeta> th5418: you aruldy have swap then dont need another
[03:32] <th5418> gogeta: im still trying to figure out the mount point for my 1gb of space for swap
[03:32] <onetinsoldier> daniel__: ok, try --> sudp aptitude install ia32-libs
[03:32] <gogeta> th5418: there isnt one
[03:32] <onetinsoldier> daniel__: ok, try --> sudo aptitude install ia32-libs
[03:32] <Docteh> th5418: swap doesn't get mounted
[03:32] <th5418> thanks
[03:32] <trippsss> Docteh: so it sounds like I should leave it well enough alone, eh? ;)
[03:32] <Jordan_U> trippsss: There is not much change unless you heavily customize things, or want to use more advanced features or grub2 like booting from isos.
[03:32] <th5418> gogeta: hmm, it says "no root system is defined"
[03:32] <__taco> gogeta: Network management seems more friendlily.
[03:32] <daniel__> onetinsoldier ok there
[03:33] <crazy7> god ecryptfs is complicated
[03:33] <trippsss> Jordan_U: gotcha
[03:33] <gogeta> th5418: did you set the mount point / for the 10 gb
[03:33] <th5418> gogeta: oh i see, thanks, im stuid
[03:34] <Docteh> trippsss: versions after lucid might not have scripts to update grub1 menu configs
[03:34] <gogeta> th5418: then your remaning space the mount point will be /home
[03:34] <gogeta> th5418: also ext4
[03:34] <trippsss> Docteh: I SEE
[03:34] <daniel__> onetinsoldier anything else?
[03:34] <onetinsoldier> daniel__: i don't think so... try it
[03:35] <shig> my Ubuntu 10.04 64bit is not automouting iPods since install. Flashdrives work OK, but iPods are recognized in "lsusb", but not automounted. Even if I mount with "sudo mount", Rhythmbox doesn't see it. Can anybody help me? Ubuntu 9.10 used to recognize my iPod.
[03:35] <gogeta> th5418: heh i always install threw manul mode being i dont trust the auto so im used to it
[03:36] <th5418> gogeta: if i load 10.04 with the 'trial' can i access my harddrives?
[03:36] <Jordan_U> th5418: Yes.
[03:36] <edbian> th5418, Yes
[03:36] <daniel__> no it didnt work... it says Error: wrong architecture 'i386'
[03:36] <LUCIDementia> Can someone help me connect with wireless internet? I have lucid lynx and a problem that's stumped everyone
[03:36] <gogeta> th5418: yes the os will see it has your /homre folder and thats where anything you saves goes
[03:37] <crazy7> ok, so, I reinstalled Ubuntu without reformatting. There was an encrypted user directory for a differently named user already there. Is there any way to mount that to get out the data?
[03:37] <onetinsoldier> daniel__: what .deb package is this?
[03:37] <th5418> gogeta: sweet, i want to save my .bash, thanks jordan and edbian
[03:37] <trippsss> Reading http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1195275 it does look like grub2 has cool features, namely booting isos up and better graphic menus/splash capabilities
[03:37] <onetinsoldier> daniel__: give me a lin to download it
[03:37] <onetinsoldier> daniel__: give me a link* to download it
[03:37] <edbian> th5418, You can save your entire ~/.*
[03:37] <daniel__> avast antivirus from here
[03:37] <daniel__> http://www.avast.com/linux-home-edition#tab4
[03:38] <Pelo> I have to use sudo with  hddtemp,   any suggestion on how to make it so I don'T need password
[03:38] <edbian> daniel__, You probably have already heard this but running routine virus scans really isn't necessary on linux.
[03:38] <gogeta> edbian: he whant to fresh install but didnt have a partating like that now he does
[03:38] <onetinsoldier> daniel__: roger. sorry, i would help, but i'm not going to try to install that
[03:38] <edbian> gogeta, Gotcha
[03:38] <gogeta> edbian: now he will be able tofresh install without losing data
[03:38] <edbian> gogeta, Yep
[03:39] <daniel__> edbian yes, but i would like to scan files before transfering them to my windows install
[03:39] <Ubantu_dude> Hey I should prob. be banned from here as well
[03:39] <Ubantu_dude> you know, cover all the bases
[03:39] <edbian> daniel__, Gotcha
[03:39] <th5418> on trial, how do i access my original /home?
[03:39] <th5418> or what's the pwd for it
[03:40] <Jordan_U> trippsss: Booting from iso is particularly nice if you want to follow development releases. You can keep the daily iso up to date with zsync, only downloading the changes (or use testdrive which is basically a nice front end to zsync and qemu). Then boot from the iso file without burning it, so you can easily try the latest daily iso every day :)
[03:40] <gogeta> daniel__: avast has a linux version now free to
[03:40] <shapshift3r> ive created a wee binary script called encrypt, ive put it in /usr/bin and if i cd /usr/bin and then run it like 'encrypt password' it works fine.  if i try to run it from anywhere else using /usr/bin/encrypt password encrypt isnt found.
[03:40] <IdleOne> Ubantu_dude: provided you stay on topic and don't use foul language you can stay.
[03:40] <shapshift3r> I thought by putting it in /usr/bin it would be in my path?
[03:40] <daniel__> gogeta yes and i am trying to install it on ubuntu 64 bit but i cant
[03:40] <trippsss> Jordan_U: ah pretty slick
[03:40] <edbian> shapshift3r, Side note: you should probably but it in /usr/local/bin
[03:40] <un214> unless you changed your path it would be
[03:41] <un214> however you need to issue hash command if you tried command before
[03:41] <edbian> shapshift3r, Than you can just "encrypt" at the cli  regardless of where you are
[03:41] <Ubantu_dude> shapshifter: echo $PATH
[03:41] <gogeta> daniel__: you peobly will need the ia32-libs
[03:41] <Ubantu_dude> make sure it is in your path
[03:41] <onetinsoldier> gogeta: i already had him install that
[03:41] <gogeta> daniel__: i dont think they have a 64bit installer
[03:41] <daniel__> gogeta could you help me install that
[03:41] <gogeta> daniel__: whats the error
[03:41] <crazy7> sigh now even my reinstall won't boot up
[03:42] <daniel__> gogeta, it says Error: wrong architecture 'i386'
[03:42] <gogeta> daniel__: heh
[03:42] <Ubantu_dude> why are the mirrors so slow right now
[03:43] <IdleOne> Ubantu_dude: try changing mirrors
[03:43] <daniel__> do you think it may be necessary to reboot before the i386 architecture comes into effect
[03:43] <un214> yes; however that might be a non-boot
[03:44] <Jon--> Looking to install ZSNES (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Zsnes), but I get "Package zsnes is not available, but is referred to by another package."  Does this mean that there is no package for 10.04? Does it work with Wine or another alternative? What do other people use for SNES emulators?
[03:44] <brax> I'm worried. For some reason, I cannot enable wireless networking with the panel icon. It's grayed out. :C
[03:44] <onetinsoldier> daniel__: no. the 32-bit install is effective immediately upon installation
[03:44] <brax> Jon--: There are many other emulators that cover snes in the repositories.
[03:44] <greezmunkey> brax: what do you have in /etc/network/interfaces? (paste to http://paste.ubuntu.com)
[03:44] <th54181> is there a fix for this 10.04 nouveau and nvidia crisis yet?
[03:44] <gogeta> daniel__: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=781251
[03:44] <th54181> i've messed up my ubuntu OS like 3x
[03:44] <onetinsoldier> daniel__: the 32-bit lib package is effective immediately upon installation
[03:45] <Ubantu_dude> Jon--:  Run apt-get update, I installed zsnes not to long ago on htpc and it went fine
[03:45] <daniel__> onetinsoldier ok
[03:45] <Jon--> Ubantu_dude: I did, still get no install candidate.
[03:45] <Axident> Please help! Some one please tell me the secret about installing Ubuntu. I tryed to make partitions my self from live, and then start installation from both live desktop and cd. I also tryed to let Ubuntu installation use the complete hdd. Every time with same result at mounting the swap partition. It fail. Maybe I have to mention I have two hdd installed in my pc. Dev0 for windows and dev!
[03:45] <Ubantu_dude> Jon--: just ran apt-get install zsnes and it ran fine for me