[00:01] <fred89> first sry for my bad englisch. can someone pls tell me how i can change the fontcolor of the search?  it's white and i cant see anything -.- cant find anything in ccsm or unity tweak tool :(
[00:02] <Joe_knock> Hello. Does anyone know how to install glib2 for gtk2?
[00:06] <linuxuser> nick eafie
[00:06] <Basketball> how can i uninstall a program and remove the config files then reinstall with the fresh config files
[00:08] <edition> apt-get purge ?
[00:08] <jak2000> Dickens?
[00:08] <jak2000> then why i cant navigate ot internet?
[00:08] <jorge> Charles Dickens
[00:08] <IdleOne> Basketball: apt-get purge package
[00:09] <Basketball> thanks
[00:09] <jorge> apt-get purge Basketball
[00:09] <IdleOne> jorge: Do you have anything helpful to say?
[00:09] <jorge> :)
[00:11] <arctictelecom> Does anyone know of an offline encyclopedia that is available for Linux?
[00:12] <TacticalJoke> arctictelecom:  You can download Wikipedia, I think.
[00:13] <arctictelecom> Do you specifically know how?
[00:13] <TacticalJoke> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Database_download#English-language_Wikipedia
[00:13] <fabio_> guys, what ssh broken pipe message means?
[00:13] <peoe> hello everyone, I just installed 14.04., and noticed that the keyrings, once unlocked, remain forever unlocked. not only that, even a hard drive that is once unlocked and removed, will be automatically unlocked when it is connected again. I checked for a setting to change that, but there seems to be none. is it really the case that the device security is so liberally set in 14.04.?
[00:14] <jorge> how do I move the close minimize maximize to the other corner?
[00:15] <clumsy_bot> Try out Unity Tweak Tool?
[00:18] <clumsy_bot> Anybody here got recommendations for a laptop that can run Ubuntu without much problems?
[00:23] <dke> Normally, Ubuntu should work on most of all systems (never seen, that Ubuntu ins't working on any system). But here is a link, what should probably help you.
[00:23] <dke> probablyhttp://www.ubuntu.com/certification/desktop/
[00:23] <dke> from the official ubuntu site.
[00:26] <fabio_> what means Write failed: Broken pipe
[00:26] <daftykins> give us some context
[00:35] <ice9> how to install elementary os desktop on ubuntu?
[00:35] <daftykins> !elementary
[00:36] <daftykins> ice9: unsupported, install their distro if you want it
[00:36] <_jack_> ice9: it's helpful to keep a seperate /home partition if you're gonna distro hop
[00:38] <agliodbs> the 14.04 server installer curses interface is WAY better than 12.04 was
[00:38] <agliodbs> good job, who ever did that
[00:47] <patchman> have a touchscreen that works, but the unity launcher doesnt respond to it.  how to fix?
[00:51] <crunchbang> hi
[00:58] <nicolas> connect concrete.mozilla.org
[01:00] <cheeseboy> there an ubuntu gnome channel?
[01:01] <trism> cheeseboy: #ubuntu-gnome
[01:28] <darksider> while my linux machine is running, i have lag peaks in internet access, im trying to figure out whats causes it. Do you know any app that allow network traffic monitoring?
[01:29] <SchrodingersScat> I think there's quite a few actually, one is iftop, that can show you things
[01:32] <darksider> SchrodingersScat: thanks. I'd like to use something that allows second by second logging
[01:35] <daftykins> darksider: tcpdump
[01:37]  * [SPIDER][MAN] GooD NiGht ALL
[01:37] <darksider> daftykins: thanks. ill take a look
[01:38] <daftykins> [SPIDER][MAN]: please disable that away message if you're going to stay in here
[01:39] <knob> Hello... not sure where to ask... as #networking is quiet.
[01:39] <knob> Hello guys.  About 36 hours ago I changed a domain's A Records to point to a new server's IP.   Yet at the moment, it is still not directing to that server (or the old one).  Any suggestions what I can check?
[01:40] <knob> This is the Ubuntu serve I was working on the other night
[01:42] <daftykins> knob: could be cached DNS, have you flushed and/or tried elsewhere?
[01:43] <knob> Hmm... only tried via different browser, yet same ISP
[02:01] <intx> d
[02:02] <newbiee> hi
[02:02] <hdtune2k> hi
[02:02] <newbiee> how do you make that when i try install php on ubuntu it says E: Unable to locate package php
[02:03] <chunxiao> hello, I'm freshman
[02:03] <newbiee> i should use apt-get or aptitude to install php?
[02:04] <OerHeks> newbiee, first find out the real name
[02:04] <gr33n7007h> newbiee, sudo apt-get install php5
[02:04] <newbiee> i hit tab button but not auto complete it
[02:05] <OerHeks> https://help.ubuntu.com/14.04/serverguide/php5.html
[02:06] <gr33n7007h> newbiee, apt-cache search *whatever*
[02:07] <newbiee> ok thanks you :)
[02:08] <newbiee> for example, it says 40 results called by that name. how can i see those before install?
[02:10] <daftykins> newbiee: as suggested, "apt-cache search php"
[02:11] <daftykins> newbiee: you likely want php5
[02:11] <newbiee> yes ok thanks you.
[02:14] <newbiee> do you find the last versions from apt-cache command too?
[02:14] <OerHeks> newbiee, the version you find is the latest (available & tested)
[02:15] <OerHeks> !latest
[02:16] <newbiee> thanks
[02:16] <newbiee> !sru
[02:16] <newbiee> !ppa
[02:17] <gr33n7007h> newbiee, apt-cache show php5 | grep -i version #=> will give exact version
[02:21] <newbiee> for example i did apt-cache search python and it showed me hundreds of results.  python3 maybe last stable one or python2.7 ?
[02:22] <newbiee> apt-cache show python | grep -i version # showed me python2.7 but apt-cache showed python3
[02:23] <nishi> hi
[02:25] <gr33n7007h> newbiee, apt-cache search python will list every under the python *keyword* in the repos apt-cache show python | grep -i version #=> 2.7 when using apt-cache show the packname has to be exact eg apt-cache show python3 | grep -i version
[02:26] <gr33n7007h> or apt-cache show mplayer | grep -i version
[02:26] <darkelfjuggalo> I am on a Custom Desktop running 32-bit Ubuntu 12.04: I want to upgrade to the latest[14.04 I believe] I did attempt this before with a direct upgrade and had a complete system Crash resulting in returning to 12.04. I want to try again going version by version; Can I simply Dist-Upgrade 12.04 to 12.10 to 13.04 to 13.10 to 14.04 with manually changing my Sources?
[02:27] <newbiee> gr33n7007h i must download which version python then? if i dont put version of python it shows 2.7 version by itself.
[02:29] <gr33n7007h> newbiee, python 2 "sudo apt-get install python" python 3 "sudo apt-get install python3" default python is 2.7
[02:30] <nishi> my system recieved a wifi network but i can not connect it. system restart select another OS then my  pc enable  to connect the wifi. Please help me
[02:30] <gr33n7007h> newbiee, It's not name python2 but just merely python
[02:30] <cynicallemon> best to have both versions of python installed these days
[02:31] <newbiee> if i can install both of them then its good. i will do so. thanks
[02:31] <gr33n7007h> newbiee, for both "sudo apt-get install python python3"
[02:32] <cynicallemon> newbiee, if you do and want to run python stuff via command line then for python 2 apps its "python myapp.py" for example, python3 apps its "python3 myapp"
[02:33] <Beldar> darkelfjuggalo, Not really a good idea. How many PPA's and 3rd part repos are on the 12.04?
[02:33] <dozor> @darkeljuggalo Doesn't sound like a good idea...best to backup personal data and do a clean install
[02:34] <Quiet_Wildcard> hallo
[02:34] <darkelfjuggalo> i do not know, the computer belongs to my girlfriend's 5 yo for school... he personally wiped Windows System32 file, and Ubuntu was put on and forgotten about
[02:34] <Quiet_Wildcard> iemand hier?
[02:34] <Beldar> Quiet_Wildcard, English?
[02:35] <Beldar> darkelfjuggalo, 12.04 has 3 more years support why change now?
[02:36] <silveira> :P
[02:36] <dozor> That is true, unless a new feature is required, might as well stay
[02:36] <Quiet_Wildcard> sorry
[02:36] <Quiet_Wildcard> I am dutch
[02:36] <silveira> hey yours mother fucker
[02:36] <Quiet_Wildcard> I was a long time ago
[02:36] <silveira> bitchs
[02:36] <Quiet_Wildcard> on irc :
[02:36] <Quiet_Wildcard> :)
[02:37] <TaZeR> hey dont swear at us were good men
[02:37] <silveira> all like penis
[02:37] <Beldar> !ops | silveira
[02:37] <cynicallemon> you need archlinx the silveira
[02:37] <darkelfjuggalo> Because Some of the assignments she is giving him for the homeschooling requires more up-to-date  software than 12.04 has available, and i'd rather him have the best than to have risk the program crashing becuase it isn't compatible with the system version
[02:37] <phunyguy> let's not egg it on.
[02:37] <Beldar> Quiet_Wildcard, There is probably a dutch channel if needed.
[02:37] <nishi> how to check my wireless driver is working properly
[02:38] <Quiet_Wildcard> now i am looking for some great force to to act
[02:38] <Quiet_Wildcard> a thunderclap thing
[02:38] <darkelfjuggalo> I found this article for what I am wanting to do can anyone look over and tell me if they trust it http://www.namhuy.net/2853/upgrade-ubuntu-12-04-lts-ubuntu-14-04-lts.html
[02:39] <cynicallemon> nishi, connect to an access point is usually a good test
[02:40] <Vivekananda> am back and still trying to troubleshoot samba installation for my ubuntu 12.04.  daftykins yo uasked me to look at the documented samba issue and thought that I can run the ubuntu 12.04 update I havent run for a bit but during the update samba4 install did not go through :   https://gist.github.com/vvikramjhu/57c8ded5e86545874e06
[02:41] <Beldar> darkelfjuggalo, Back it up and install 14.04. The upgrade your proposing has it's perils and really needs an experienced user and even than may fail. Will take a long time is going through 3 eol's
[02:43] <cynicallemon> darkelfjuggalo, just make sure 12.04 is fully up to date and just do a sudo update-manager -d
[02:44] <darkelfjuggalo> I have no media to do the fresh install... I tried to make one and it wouldn't load; I have time he is at his Father's for a week and I want to have the computer working properly when he returns, so time isn't a factor to me
[02:45] <darkelfjuggalo> will sudo update-manager -d go to 14.04 directly or step by step?
[02:45] <Quiet_Wildcard> i lost al my knowledge for irc
[02:45] <Quiet_Wildcard> I downloaded mirc 7.34
[02:46] <Quiet_Wildcard> but i know if you put in command like
[02:46] <Quiet_Wildcard> ./connect irc.lichtsnel.nl
[02:46] <cynicallemon> darkelfjuggalo, directly
[02:46] <Quiet_Wildcard> it wouldn't connect :/
[02:47] <Quiet_Wildcard> * /connect: not connected to server
[02:47] <Quiet_Wildcard> :/
[02:47] <darkelfjuggalo> my update manager displays things that apt-get update/apt-get upgrade didn't find... some of it is hardware relate; should I install this before the 14.04 upgrade?
[02:48] <darkelfjuggalo> and linux kernal upgrade; kernal upgrade should be included in the dist-upgrade, correct?
[02:50] <cynicallemon> darkelfjuggalo, yeah i would do a apt-get dist-upgrade before the upgrade to 14.04
[02:51] <Beldar> darkelfjuggalo, Honestly if you can't just do this without more than say two questions easily answered, expecting the channel to hold your hand through the whole thing is just not thinking. If it was just yours it would be one thing but it's another's. Be the positive roe model and hero your trying to be another way.
[02:52] <cynicallemon> Beldar, some of us need some hand holding and is more pressurised when its someone elses box
[02:52] <darkelfjuggalo> ok the update-manage updates found, which are mostly about linux kernal 3.11.0-26 do I need these before or after moving to 14.04
[02:52] <Beldar> cynicallemon, Let the user defend themselves and don't enable.
[02:53] <cynicallemon> Beldar, thats what I love about community spirit
[02:54] <cynicallemon> darkelfjuggalo, what is it telling you to do?
[02:54] <darkelfjuggalo> Beldar; I have enough training in linux to keep my own device running which is i started with 13.04 being my first ubuntu, This is a new obstacle from me, and I dont want to screw it up twice, so I am doing internet and IRC research to minimize that chance...
[02:54] <Beldar> from a failed 12.04 to 14.04 to a one by one through eol's back to a 12->14 is just not really thinking when not having any ability to check the repos etc.
[02:56] <darkelfjuggalo> cynicallemon ; update manager tells me 14.04 is available with update button; followed by hardware support with install button; followed by a list of 7 updates mostly about linux kernal version mentioned above
[02:56] <cynicallemon> just update it then, the process will update what needs updating in the correct order
[02:57] <sydney> So,if i am in a terminal window,and i cd into a folder,how do i 'un-cd' back out of it?
[02:57] <cynicallemon> darkelfjuggalo, well thats the theory anyway :)
[02:57] <cynicallemon> sydney, cd ..
[02:58] <sydney> Thanks!! :)
[02:58] <Beldar> sydney, as long as the work is done there and leaving is all that's needed an exit command
[02:59] <cynicallemon> sydney, u need a terminal 101 class :)
[02:59] <sydney> Beldar: i know,but it will come in handy :P
[02:59] <sydney> cynicallemon: i know most of the basics. :D
[02:59] <gr33n7007h> sydney, cd ..
[03:02] <gshmu> I'm using GIMP, when focus Toolbox, I can't using menu.  screen-shot: https://clbin.com/XJCiVm.png
[03:02] <sydney> cynicallemon: quiz me on some of the basics :)
[03:02] <darkelfjuggalo> Beldar; the return to 12.04 after the crash was a Recovery; the step by step idea was the next best thing i had since I mainly use terminal to apt-get upgrades, and to do what I have had to do before, I use GUI for non-system processes, so there is a lot I am not familiar with in this Area and I am trying to learn with the trial and Error without frying anything; I thank you and Cynicallemon for your advice and assistance; and I appreciate your co
[03:03] <dozor> @sydney another useful one...if you do a full path or multiple folder cd, you can return to your previous working directory by a "cd -"
[03:04] <dozor> most useful if you are, for example, in your /home/ folder and go somewhere else, such as /var/log, do some work and then need to move back to /home/
[03:04] <sydney> dozor:  :)
[03:04] <xangua> gshmu: you can enable gimp single window mode so the menu is always aviable
[03:04] <newbiee> ok thanks you all :)
[03:05] <gshmu> xangua: thanks
[03:05] <xangua> gshmu: go to window menu, singe window mode
[03:05] <sydney> I am learning to type without looking at the keyboard. :P Ugg
[03:05] <gshmu> xangua: work better
[03:06] <cynicallemon> darkelfjuggalo, no worries, hope it works out ok
[03:06] <Quiet_Wildcard> hi
[03:06] <cynicallemon> sydney, i am a proficient two fingered typist and proud of it
[03:07] <dozor> http://www.tipp10.com/en/
[03:07] <dozor> :-)
[03:09] <darkelfjuggalo> Thanks, I'm sure this should do fine... I do wish a 64-bit was on this computer though; the processor is AMD Anthalon 64
[03:09] <daftykins> so reinstall?
[03:10] <darkelfjuggalo> daftykins; No Media; I wasted a few discs trying to make a 64-bit install for 14.04 through unetbootin that the system would not read at all
[03:13] <cynicallemon> darkelfjuggalo, easier with a usb stick
[03:13] <dozor> agreed, usb stick for sure
[03:13] <cynicallemon> havent used a CD for about 4 years now
[03:14] <darkelfjuggalo> I left mine in louisiana back in April; no money to get a new one and I have 2 8GB that just barely hold half a GB becuase they fried in formatting to prepare for being made a Boot Device
[03:17] <Vivekananda> daftykins: in case you have a look at the console output you can see that during the update the samba4 ran into errors . please advice on how to purge and install samba4 again or is there something else I can do . ubuntu 12.04
[03:18] <daftykins> Vivekananda: sorry i'm off the clock watching a film
[03:18] <cynicallemon> darkelfjuggalo, they probably need a complete wipe and a new partition table creating
[03:18] <Quiet_Wildcard> hi
[03:18] <Quiet_Wildcard> I used a very famous IRC client back in 2002
[03:18] <daftykins> Vivekananda: although i could take a glance to see if my suspicions were right about your /etc/apt/sources.list if you pastebin it
[03:19] <Quiet_Wildcard> I can't remember the name anymore
[03:19] <Quiet_Wildcard> i remember someltink like twitch and it had a green logo
[03:19] <OerHeks> !info samb4 precise
[03:19] <Quiet_Wildcard> it wasn't twitch
[03:19] <Red_Mist> "<cynicallemon> havent used a CD for about 4 years now" My cd drive was so underused, it had jammed in place.. I had to keep tapping on it to make it open.
[03:19] <Quiet_Wildcard> who know what i mean
[03:20] <Vivekananda> daftykins: sure one sec
[03:20] <OerHeks> Quiet_Wildcard, on ubuntu ?
[03:20] <cynicallemon> Red_Mist, LOL
[03:20] <Quiet_Wildcard> no windows
[03:20] <Red_Mist> yeah, its wierd.. cd/dvd drives are the new floppy drives.
[03:21] <Quiet_Wildcard> and linux too i think
[03:21] <Quiet_Wildcard> it isn't in development anymore
[03:21] <Quiet_Wildcard> but it was way better than mirc does days
[03:21] <Vivekananda> daftykins: http://pastie.org/9457100   btw what did you suspect ?
[03:21] <OerHeks> Quiet so it is not ubuntu support related
[03:21] <darkelfjuggalo> I couldn't get into it like that unless I( was in OS Install...Windows requires me to format 90% of the time i plug it in, which I believe is a re-partition but when i lost the memory no form of reformat regardless of the filesystem type would give me that memory back
[03:21] <OerHeks> Quiet_Wildcard, join ##windows
[03:22] <Quiet_Wildcard> tnx
[03:22] <Quiet_Wildcard> :)
[03:23] <daftykins> Vivekananda: nope i was wrong, i imagined non-standard repos
[03:23] <cynicallemon> OerHeks, you should have helped him out - and charged him, windows users like to pay :)
[03:23] <Quiet_Wildcard> I know it!
[03:24] <Quiet_Wildcard> It was Pirch! :D
[03:28] <Vivekananda> daftykins: samba share was working fine and I guess in the process of purging / reinstalling it I messed something up. I wonder if there is a way to simply purge it all and then re install it and the system config of samba
[03:31] <Guest22158> this is my first use xchat , I'd like to know how can I change my  name to show?
[03:31] <SchrodingersScat>  /nick show
[03:31] <cynicallemon> Vivekananda, sudo apt-get remove --purge samba
[03:31] <Red_Mist> is there a point to stacking directories?
[03:31] <zykotick9> cynicallemon: fyi, "sudo apt-get purge foo" works, and is less typing
[03:32] <gr33n7007h> Guest22158, you could also join /join #xchat"
[03:32] <cynicallemon> zykotick9, yes well foo is shorter than samba :)
[03:33] <Guest22158> thanks!
[03:33] <gr33n7007h> np
[03:33] <Vivekananda> cynicallemon: yes I ried that and it does not work :(
[03:34] <daftykins> Vivekananda: what you did should've done it already, but you should be on 12.04.5 by now
[03:34] <cynicallemon> hexchat has more development than xchat now
[03:36] <gr33n7007h> jIRCii ftw
[03:39] <OerHeks> Vivekananda, why does it not work?
[03:39] <Vivekananda> OerHeks: it gives me errors
[03:39] <OerHeks> Vivekananda, did you stop samba4  first ?
[03:40] <Vivekananda> I just updated though so I I guess I will reboot
[03:40] <Vivekananda> OerHeks: ow nope I did not . let me try sudo service samba stop
[03:40] <Vivekananda> and then try again
[03:41] <Vivekananda> yep errors but I will try again after restart
[03:48] <AS> HELLO
[04:02] <Marion_> Does anyone know how to make ubuntu automaticly run xset -dpms and xset s off when your distro starts?
[04:05] <Vivekananda> OerHeks: I am back and tried to remove samba after stopping it . here is the output of the error : http://pastie.org/9457155
[04:06] <newbie|3> Hi
[04:07] <Ben64> Vivekananda: what is that samba4 package you have there?
[04:08] <OerHeks> Vivekananda, try to be exact > sudo apt-get --purge remove samba4
[04:12] <Vivekananda> OerHeks: okay trying again
[04:15] <Vivekananda> OerHeks: it worked so now I guess I dont have samba. I am trying to install samba now to get the sharing working. Will doing this work ? :  http://www.ubuntututorials.com/ubuntu-12-04-join-windows-workgroup/          or do I have to install the whole samba4 and other packages
[04:15] <OerHeks> Vivekananda, i don't know, i do not use samba
[04:16] <edition> !Vivekananda Samba is a service
[04:16] <OerHeks> samba4 is in alpha stage, not sure it is good to install
[04:16] <edition> @Vivekananda Samba is a service
[04:17] <TaZeR> are neck beards cool?
[04:17] <TaZeR> do any ubuntu devs have them
[04:19] <edition> !op TaZeR offtopic
[04:19] <TaZeR> !op edition reporting offtopic...
[04:20] <Ben64> TaZeR: keep this channel clear for ubuntu support only please
[04:20] <Vivekananda> OerHeks: in that case how do I enable network sharing between windows and ubuntu computers ?
[04:20] <eeee> !ops | TaZeR
[04:20] <TaZeR> will do
[04:20] <phunyguy> hi
[04:23] <phunyguy> let's not abuse the !ops trigger please.  They are there for emergencies, not someone making a single offtopic remark.  We are better than this.
[04:31] <man_alive> complete noob needs a little help  :-)
[04:33] <Vivekananda> man_alive: ask your question
[04:33] <man_alive> Thanks.  Got a free VPS for a month. Trying to figure out what packages are installed.
[04:35] <man_alive> Tried several commands over SSH but none show libtorrent or rtorrent, both of which are currently running so I know they are installed!
[04:35] <man_alive> Well rtorrent is running and it relies on libtorrent.
[04:36] <man_alive> tried -- dpkg --get-selections | grep -v deinstall
[04:37] <man_alive> I guess I should say $ dpkg --get-selections | grep -v deinstall
[04:38] <man_alive> also tried $ aptitude search '~i!~M'
[04:39] <man_alive> I get a nice long list of packages but neither libtorrent nor rtorrent are showing up
[04:39] <man_alive> Not sure why they wouldn't
[04:39] <SchrodingersScat> man_alive: how did you install them?
[04:40] <man_alive> Followed a script I found
[04:40] <SchrodingersScat> man_alive: if you compiled them, then why would dpkg know they are installed?
[04:40] <man_alive> downloaded gz and then used make and install
[04:40] <man_alive> Oh
[04:40] <SchrodingersScat> !info dpkg | man_alive
[04:41] <Linolex> hi all, what is the command / syntax to hide all JOINS PARTS and QUITS here?
[04:41] <SchrodingersScat> Linolex: that depends on your client, afaik
[04:42] <bgs> does anyone know how to forcibly switch frequency scaling back to acpi? adding `intel_pstate=disable` to grub doesn't seem to have helped.
[04:42] <Linolex> SchrodingersScat: just joining through Pidgin right now - on ubuntu
[04:42] <man_alive> Schrod: Are you saying that by installing the way I did I didn't actually "install" the packages?
[04:43] <SchrodingersScat> man_alive: you installed them, but you've circumvented dpkg/apt/etc. so you can't expect them to know about this.
[04:43] <man_alive> Aaaah. As I said, absolute noob.
[04:44] <man_alive> So, I want to upgrade my versions.
[04:44] <SchrodingersScat> Linolex: http://wiki.xkcd.com/irc/hide_join_part_messages#Pidgin_.28aka_Gaim.29 worth a shot
[04:44] <man_alive> I know who to download new and recompile as I can just change version numbers
[04:44] <man_alive> but I don't know how to get rid of my current versions.
[04:45] <man_alive> how*
[04:45] <enchilado> Linolex: I recommend not using Pidgin
[04:45] <SchrodingersScat> man_alive: if they install to the same spot, I'm not even sure if that's a problem.
[04:46] <man_alive> OK. If I follow my original list of steps they should simply overwrite, yes?
[04:46] <SchrodingersScat> man_alive: at least, for rtorrest and libtorrent, mileage may vary elsewhere
[04:46] <man_alive> Those are the two I'm looking at. I'm learning QUICKLY but it is trial by fire so far.
[04:47] <Linolex> enchilado: yes, I know, but sometimes and right now I am on Pidgin, but I thought that the /ignore command was the one doing this trick, and thus related to the server, and not to the software client... (hiding JOINS PARTS QUITS messages), but there seems not to be any "/ignore" commands on this server?
[04:47] <SchrodingersScat> man_alive: yep, get the new version, unpack, configure, etc.
[04:48] <Linolex> enchilado: (I am connecting through irc.ubuntu.com, perhaps different if I connected directly to irc.freenet.net?)
[04:48] <man_alive> Okay. That sounds easy.
[04:48] <enchilado> Linolex: AFAIK yes you have to do that client-side
[04:48] <man_alive> I assume my version of Ubuntu is a server version as it is terminal.
[04:48] <SchrodingersScat> Linolex: was that option in the pidgin menu like the wiki said?
[04:48] <enchilado> Use chat.freenode.net, not irc.freenode.net
[04:48] <SchrodingersScat> man_alive: likely
[04:49] <man_alive> Schrod: Would that be accurate, likely?
[04:50] <SchrodingersScat> man_alive: shouldn't really matter in this case, but sure, vps is probably server.
[04:50] <man_alive> Schrod: Can you recommend a source for me to read up on concepts? I've done a lot of googling and everywhere seems to have different recommendations.
[04:51] <wafflejock__> running Kubuntu here anyone got a suggestion for a hylafax-client GUI I can use or place with steps to configure print to fax
[04:51] <man_alive> I have done some programming but .nix is pretty much new to me.
[04:52] <SchrodingersScat> man_alive: You might have to narrow that down.  one goal at a time
[04:53] <man_alive> Schrod: I'm having a somewhat hard time with concepts. There seem to be services to start and stop. And "Screen" seems important.
[04:53] <man_alive> Happy to do work but not found really good source YET (sure I will).
[04:54] <cynicallemon> man_alive, what you looking for?
[04:54] <SchrodingersScat> man_alive: services are basically magic to me, you'll need someone longer in the tooth than me to explain that.  screen is awesome though. lets you continue work even if you disconnect, etc., split up the window for multiple frames, etc.
[04:54] <Linolex> SchrodingersScat: yes, thanks, needed to enable that plugin, seems to be working fine :-)
[04:54] <man_alive> So why do I see references to daemon all the time?
[04:55] <cynicallemon> SchrodingersScat, tmux is also good for that too
[04:55] <SchrodingersScat> Linolex: great
[04:57] <man_alive> SchrodingersScat: You've given me some really good hints at stuff to try. I'm off to SSH for a while. Might be back.
[04:57] <SchrodingersScat> man_alive: good luck
[04:57] <Linolex> enchilado: would you mind giving an example or two why you would recommend NOT using Pidgin for IRC?
[04:59] <cynicallemon> do people still use pidgin?
[05:00] <enchilado> Linolex: because it's a terrible IRC client that is limited with a poorly designed interface
[05:00] <SchrodingersScat> cynicallemon: I prefer finch
[05:00] <enchilado> Linolex: I'd recommend irssi or if you'd prefer a GUI then hexchat
[05:01] <Linolex> enchilado: that was why I asked, can you make an example of what is "most terrible" about it, which is far better in a real IRC client?
[05:01] <cynicallemon> SchrodingersScat, finch is ok but it has some heavy dependancies
[05:01] <SchrodingersScat> Linolex: this is getting a little off-topic, ultimately you can use what you like.  did you have a ubuntu question?
[05:02] <cynicallemon> enchilado, agreed
[05:02] <Linolex> SchrodingersScat: it is related to which irc client I will choose to use in Ubuntu, Pidgin or "other", which one is recommended and mostly used in Ubuntu?
[05:03] <OerHeks> irssi
[05:03] <cynicallemon> Linolex, i would prefer to use a specific irc app as opposed to a general all-in-one chat app just for security
[05:04] <Linolex> OerHeks: irssi I know from earlier, command-line based, I remember I liked it when using it on 10.04 a while
[05:04] <cynicallemon> OerHeks, yes irssi for terminal/console and hexchat for gui
[05:05] <Linolex> cynicallemon: is hexchat more secure than Pidgin?
[05:06] <cynicallemon> Linolex, well, hexchat deals with one protocol whereas pidgin deals with several hence more possible avenue of attack
[05:06] <Bashing-om> Linolex: irssi -> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1010780 <- how to install set up irssi, old but still works .
[05:07] <Linolex> SchrodingersScat: right now on this computer I am using 12.04 LTS, and have not installed any particular irc client here, the only one that came pre-installed was Pidgin, not even hexchat is preinstalled, as it is in Linux Mint. Seemingly the only one Ubuntu pre-installs is Pidgin?
[05:07] <phunyguy> Linolex: they were right.  This is offtopic.  It is not the place for opinions.  If you need help with something that isn't working, we can help.  We aren't here to help you choose an IRC client.
[05:08] <phunyguy> I vote that we discontinue that topic, and move on.
[05:08] <Linolex> cynicallemon: yes, of course, but since I will be connecting to several networks and need pidgin or other such thing for the non-irc connections, I will keep one such software open anyway. That is why Pidgin might be "enough", so I dont need so many different software to manage "chats"
[05:08] <wafflejock__> no one using any hylafax frontends?
[05:09] <Linolex> phunyguy: ok, terminating this "topic" now then
[05:09] <wafflejock__> I'm considering trying to get avantfax running but it's on a RasPBX box
[05:11] <edition> i notice that "ifconfig eth0 | grep 'RX bytes' " gets the recieved bytes for eth0
[05:11] <edition> how can this be accessible from C++?
[05:11] <edition> is there a related Linux API around ifconfig?
[05:11] <wafflejock__> edition: http://www.cplusplus.com/forum/unices/4956/
[05:12] <wafflejock__> edition: the general answer is as they have there either look in the source or do a system call
[05:12] <edition> in windows I would use the 'dependancy viewer'...
[05:12] <edition> so use objdump?
[05:13] <hyper_ch> hi there, I have a weird issue: when I attach an external usb 3 drive to a usb 3 port it doesn't show up anymore. It used to work just fine. However when I attach it to a usb 2 port it works
[05:13] <edition> !hyper_ch | have you tried lsusb -v?
[05:14] <hyper_ch> edition: it doesn't seem to spin up and doens't show up as sdX device
[05:14] <hyper_ch> but I?ll try lsusb -v
[05:14] <edition> dont forget grep :)
[05:14] <hyper_ch> ls /dev | grep sd
[05:15] <edition> are you sure?
[05:16] <hyper_ch> weird, now it started working after switching betweeen usb 2 and 3 ports like 5 time
[05:16] <hyper_ch> times
[05:16] <hyper_ch> fine, now I can do the raid hot swap backup :)
[05:16] <wafflejock__> edition: http://packages.ubuntu.com/trusty/net-tools
[05:17] <Beldar> hyper_ch, are you unmounting the usb before removing?
[05:17] <hyper_ch> Beldar: yes, but in that case it wasn't even mounted
[05:17] <edition> is there a direct method of getting source, for a well known program?
[05:17] <edition> such as ifconfig?
[05:17] <TJ-> hyper_ch: in a terminal run a watch on the kernel log and then insert the USB connector, see if there  are any events at all: "tail -f /var/log/kern.log"
[05:18] <Beldar> hyper_ch, The question was a general context of use .
[05:18] <hyper_ch> Beldar: that's the script I run on it http://paste.ubuntu.com/7995160/
[05:18] <TJ-> hyper_ch: somtimes ports that are shared by multiple USB controllers get 'stuck' and need a controller reset to kick them
[05:18] <hyper_ch> TJ-: will do so next time :) thx
[05:19] <wafflejock__> edition: I linked to it above
[05:19] <OerHeks> !source
[05:19] <edition> ok
[05:20] <edition> can I just borrow functionality from other programs of interest?
[05:21] <hyper_ch> writing with almost 95MB/s to external usb 3 drive is much better than usb 2 with 1/10th of that speed :)
[05:21] <obiwandk> &
[05:22] <wafflejock__> edition: just found this on googling for finding the package an app belongs to http://superuser.com/questions/10997/find-what-package-a-file-belongs-to-in-ubuntu-debian
[05:23] <wafflejock__> edition: regarding code you'll need to see the projects license usually in a LICENSE file with the source to know what you can do with the code
[05:23] <edition> ok :)
[05:23] <edition> so ill need to ask before 'borrowing' parts of code
[05:24] <wafflejock__> edition: maybe depends on the license, sometimes you need to include the license sometimes you need to give credit sometimes you need to ask but it depends
[05:25] <edition> is GTK+ ok for most ubuntu distributions?
[05:25] <cynicallemon> use BSD licensed stuff - far easier
[05:25] <wafflejock__> probably always safer to ask if you can get a response but some of the licenses are really open and allow you to do whatever you want but just free the author(s) from liability
[05:25] <edition> ill contact my lawyer...
[05:26] <wafflejock__> indeed IANAL
[05:29] <wafflejock__> edition: generally speaking you can make system calls though and not be including anyone's source really but just have an external dependency then even so licensing is a hairy issue
[05:29] <cynicallemon> kinda ironic how stallman goes on about freedoms yet when you try to develop software the gpl is a damn minefield
[05:29] <edition> :/
[05:29] <wafflejock__> cynicallemon: stallman has a very "narrow" definition for when he talks about freedoms
[05:32] <cynicallemon> freedom 4 - use BSD or MIT licenses
[05:32] <edition> is stallman creating a brick wall for corporates?
[05:32] <cynicallemon> ask netfliks
[05:32] <wafflejock__> edition: he's just trying to guarantee open source stays open source I think, but he might be mad
[05:32] <edition> probably :)
[05:33] <OerHeks> please keep this channel free for ubuntu support, join #ubuntu-offtopic for chit-chat
[05:33] <wafflejock__> sorry drifted off topic
[05:33] <wafflejock__> so no one on the hylafx eh "print is dead"
[05:34] <cynicallemon> yep he doesnt like ubuntu so lets not talk about him...
[05:34] <wafflejock__> hylafax*
[05:34] <daftykins> support only is the name of the game
[05:35] <cynicallemon> daftykins, dont forget community too, thats what drives it all
[05:36] <gr33n7007h> would doing "ulimit -c unlimited" cause any problems?
[05:36] <daftykins> cynicallemon: i'm talking about the purpose of this channel.
[05:37] <tirdtoon> join #yii
[05:38] <OerHeks> gr33n7007h, if your hardware can handle unlimited connections, no
[05:39] <gr33n7007h> OerHeks, just thought I'd ask because a java program I'm trying to run suggests doing just this
[05:41] <george1> is ubuntu 12.10 repositores servers going to be closed?
[05:42] <OerHeks> george1, yes
[05:42] <OerHeks> !12.10
[05:42] <george1> that means we can;t download apps from it anymore?
[05:43] <OerHeks> george1, it is EOL, so no updates. and serverspace cost money.
[05:43] <cynicallemon> george1, all retired versions get archived
[05:44] <george1> what do they do with archived ones? do they delete all apps from such repositores ?
[05:44] <brotherBox> Hi people. I use Ubuntu 14.04 x64 with the terminator terminal emulator and the terminus font. Doing a specific action in terminator crashes with the notification, that the !scaled_font->cache_frozen assertion in /build/buildd/cairo-1.13.0~20140204/src/cairo-scaled-font.c:459 failed. I have tried rebuilding the font cache with no success for my original problem. I also found that the problem only occurs when
[05:44] <brotherBox> using the terminus font. Can anyone point me in the direction towards steps that get this fixed?
[05:44] <daftykins> george1: they get renamed
[05:44] <OerHeks> there is an old-release hack, but i wouldn't bother it
[05:45] <george1> renamed? so those apps still remain there right daftykins?
[05:46] <cynicallemon> george1, http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/
[05:46] <daftykins> george1: as mentioned, it's a bad idea to make use of an EOL release. you should upgrade.
[05:46] <cynicallemon> george1, thats the repo greaveyard
[05:49] <george1> seems like i need to upgrade to 14.10, though i am little bit concerned here, a lot of users saying the kernel 3.13 is not bootng on some computers (especially older ones), also is this kernel stable enough? daftykins?
[05:50] <OerHeks> select your souces carefull :p
[05:50] <daftykins> george1: *14.04
[05:51] <george1> daftykins yes 14.04 trusty t
[05:51] <george1> t
[05:51] <george1> tahr
[05:51] <tac-tics> Hey guys.
[05:52] <tac-tics> My wifi suddenly goes out after long periods of working just fine
[05:52] <tac-tics> A friend suggested upgrading to the latest kernel might help (3.13 -> 3.15 or 3.16)
[05:52] <TJ-> tac-tics: check "/var/log/syslog" for clues
[05:52] <tac-tics> does that sound reasonable?
[05:53] <brotherBox> tac-tics: have you tried different machines/routers?
[05:53] <george1> latest kernels are least stable compared to older ones
[05:53] <tac-tics> TJ-: yeah. I'm trying to pinpoint exactly when it goes down so I can grab an error message
[05:53] <TJ-> tac-tics: it's not ideal to blindly change core components without evidence they are at fault; you may end up causing other problems
[05:53] <tac-tics> brotherBox: this laptop has had no problems with wifi. My new laptop has had problems at 3 separate locations (home, parent's home, hackerspace)
[05:54] <tac-tics> TJ-: True. Although it might also be a good learning experience.
[05:55] <tac-tics> It also appears (judging by NetworkManager) that my signal strength drops periodically
[05:55] <tac-tics> though again, no other laptop in the house has that issue
[05:56] <daftykins> wireless is radio, plenty of environmental elements could be attributed to that
[05:56] <daftykins> someone walking through your laptops line of sight, yada yada
[05:56] <tac-tics> Is Linux just less robust against environmental noise?
[05:56] <tac-tics> I was losing the signal consistently 3 feet in front of the wireless hub a few nights ago
[05:57] <TJ-> tac-tics: review the archives syslog files if the active one doesn't show anything, you can use "zgrep -n '\(wlan0\|wpa_supplicant\)' /var/log/syslog* | less" to isolate likely messages
[05:57] <TJ-> tac-tics: nothing to do with Linux... particular device chipset/driver combinations can have issues, especially where the manufacturers don't support the kernel module development actively
[05:58] <daftykins> tac-tics: that's a very daft statement
[05:58] <TJ-> tac-tics: most likely interference from other ISM devices on the same frequency band
[05:59] <gr33n7007h> tac-tics, try changing channel
[05:59] <daftykins> gr33n7007h: issue at 3 properties, that doesn't fly.
[05:59] <tac-tics> I can change the band here. But not at the other locations
[06:00] <gr33n7007h> daftykins, oh missed that completely
[06:00] <george1> daftykins a lot of users saying the kernel 3.13 is not booting on some computers (especially older ones), also is this kernel stable enough?
[06:00] <tac-tics> TJ-: There seems to be no error messages, using that command
[06:00] <TJ-> tac-tics: For example, do you use a Bluetooth headset with a cell phone close to the PC (BT uses the same frequency band as 802.11b/g/n - 2.4GHz)
[06:00] <daftykins> george1: one way to find out
[06:01] <tac-tics> TJ-: I do not
[06:01] <TJ-> tac-tics: I'm trying to point out the vast range of things that can contribute to signal drops that you wouldn't necessarily think of
[06:01] <tac-tics> and regardless of what noise there might be, our chrome book and three windows computers have not had trouble ever
[06:01] <george1> daftykins how?
[06:01] <gr33n7007h> even microwaves use 2.4
[06:01] <TJ-> tac-tics: different chipsets perform in different ways
[06:02] <tac-tics> that is possible
[06:02] <TJ-> tac-tics: if the signal drops so the PC loses the connection, you'll see it in the logs
[06:02] <tac-tics> perhaps i mis-typed the command
[06:03] <tac-tics> ah, I did
[06:03] <daftykins> george1: try it :P
[06:03] <TJ-> tac-tics: I was assuming the WiFi interface is "wlan0" but wpa_supplicant won't change
[06:03] <tac-tics> yeah. it's wlan0
[06:03] <daftykins> george1: stick to 12.04.5 if you don't want to go 3.13
[06:04] <george1> daftykins but trusty tahr comes default with 3.13 right?
[06:05] <TJ-> tac-tics: It isn't unusual, on portable PCs, to have the antenna connections jogged free from the sockets on the Wifi card internally. Usually they'll have 2 or 3 antennas (for MIMO)... just 1 coming free (if it is tasked with Rx  - receiving) can cause massive problems with reception even when Tx (transmission) is fine
[06:07] <mpourhadi> how can OS detect my monitor?
[06:07] <tac-tics> so I should be keeping an eye on both what I'm uploading and what I'm downloading separately for the purposes of diagnosing the problem?
[06:07] <daftykins> george1: all this will be apparant when you go to install it. plus available online... yes, yes it does.
[06:08] <TJ-> tac-tics: Just watch the current syslog, in a terminal, with "tail -f /var/log/syslog" and you'll soon get familiar with the messages that occur during normal operation, and hopefully spot abnormalities when things go wrong
[06:08] <tac-tics> gotcha
[06:08] <tac-tics> syslog isn't what you get from dmesg. Or is it?
[06:09] <TJ-> tac-tics: You can Ctrl+C to interrupt  the 'tail' and get back to the shell
[06:09] <jab> halo
[06:09] <jab> wie
[06:09] <tac-tics> TJ-: yep.
[06:09] <TJ-> tac-tics: syslog gathers all the service/daemon activity as well as some kernel activity.
[06:10] <tac-tics> I do Linux development. I just never learned much about how the system works beyond what a Lamp stack or C environment requires
[06:10] <TJ-> tac-tics: and what you're interested in specfically is wpa_supplicant messages and wlan0, wpa_supplicant is responsible for maintaining the encrypted WiFi link
[06:10] <tac-tics> I'm working to change that :)
[06:10] <tac-tics> gotcha
[06:11] <jab> wie geht es dir grade
[06:12] <TJ-> !de | jab
[06:13] <jab> ok
[06:35] <jadams> so I've got....something awful going on with my g++.  I was able to build a .so that uses libsass, but when I try to load it I get errors that seem to imply my libstdc++ or some such is the wrong version (that's being dynamically loaded) https://gist.github.com/knewter/6d044ad0c9f345ccfbb1
[06:35] <jadams> not really sur ehow to tell which library it's failing to load the correct version of
[06:36] <jadams> or how to make a simplified repro
[06:37] <enchilado> How could anyone mistake this for logic? http://imgur.com/gallery/lw8HeWG
[06:39] <enchilado> Wow
[06:39] <enchilado> Totally wrong channel
[06:39] <enchilado> Sorry :D
[06:39] <DoverMo> enchilado, so true!
[06:40] <edition> which IDE should I use with GTK+?
[06:41] <Biscuit> Do yall know how to tell the terminal where stuff in the downloads folder is?  I tried to say "cd downloads" but that didn't work
[06:42] <Biscuit> I downloaded a program but I don't know how to get it started from the terminal
[06:42] <bazhang> big D Biscuit
[06:42] <DoverMo> cuz "Downloads"
[06:42] <Biscuit> ok, I will try the big D, thanks
[06:43] <edition> how to get WinKey to open the Applications menu, in xfce?
[06:43] <cfhowlett> edition, ask #xfce      ?
[06:44] <edition> hey! cfhowlett!
[06:44] <cfhowlett> edition, ho!  1st Edition!
[06:44] <edition> aka. Ben Cottrell
[06:44] <edition> oops
[06:45] <cfhowlett> edition, oh, we're doxxing ourselves now? :)
[06:45] <Biscuit> @bazhang @DoverMo - thanks for the help. It works
[06:45] <edition> still trying to find a good GUI library to use...
[06:54] <darkelfjuggalo> I am running Ubuntu 14.04 LTS 32-Bit I have a Sapphire Graphics Card... unsure of the exact series number...With Ubuntu, will the exact series number matter when looking for Drivers?
[06:55] <cfhowlett> darkelfjuggalo, never heard of sapphire graphics.  I'd start with checking for support directly from sapphire.  exact match is optimal in all cases but if you can get to the same product release category, that often will get you at least partially up and running
[06:56] <DoverMo> darkelfjuggalo, sapphire is a brand. either use the addtional drivers dialog, or look at amd/nvidias website
[06:57] <JuJuBee> Greetings.  I have a frozen GUI however I can ssh to the same box.  How do I kill the GUI
[06:58] <trijntje> JuJuBee: sudo service lightdm restart
[06:58] <DoverMo> ^^^
[06:59] <JuJuBee> Screen still appears frozen.  No mouse movement or keyboard ... I tried ctrl-alt-f1 nothing
[07:00] <DoverMo> JuJuBee, replace restart with stop
[07:01] <JuJuBee> Screen still frozen, no mouse or keyboard working...
[07:02] <JuJuBee> Does it matter that I am using KDE?
[07:03] <cfhowlett> JuJuBee, easy test: logout.  choose an alternative DE.  login
[07:03] <JuJuBee> cfhowlett: cannot logout... ^
[07:04] <cfhowlett> JuJuBee, terminal inactive?  ow.  hate to suggest it, but a hard reboot may be advisable.
[07:04] <JuJuBee> cfhowlett: was trying  to avoid that
[07:04] <cfhowlett> JuJuBee, I completely agree ... but ...
[07:04] <JuJuBee> I can ssh
[07:05] <cfhowlett> JuJuBee, wait!
[07:05] <cfhowlett> !reisub|JuJuBee,
[07:07] <JuJuBee> well, that restarted the box
[07:07] <cfhowlett> JuJuBee, nice.  test the alternate DE?
[07:08] <helmut_> hi
[07:08] <DoverMo> was x freezing the system?
[07:08] <cfhowlett> !who
[07:08] <DoverMo> or was it a pre-x thing?
[07:10] <JuJuBee> DoverMo: I usually do use names but it is pretty quiet
[07:10] <JuJuBee> DoverMo: I don't know what was freezing it... htop did not show anything unusual
[07:11] <DoverMo> JuJuBee, oh no ;-;
[07:11] <scofieldpeng> sorry to interrupt everyone, is there anyone try to install the rabbitvcs on the unbuntu?(the filemanager is PCMAN-FM)
[07:12] <JuJuBee> Dover the command cfhowlett gave me worked.
[07:12] <JuJuBee> Thanks to both of you.
[07:12] <cfhowlett> JuJuBee, happy2help
[07:12] <JuJuBee> Gotta run
[07:12] <JuJuBee> laptop about to die
[07:13] <julio> ooohh nooo
[07:13] <scofieldpeng> i tried to install it, but it seems that it don't work on pcman-fm(i changed unity to lubuntu-desktop)
[07:18] <wafflejock> mystery solved can send and see old faxes from the hylafax server running on FreePBX RasPi using http://www.yajhfc.de/ (works in windows at least haven't done the deb installs yet but Java so I assume mostly the same)
[07:21] <OerHeks> !info hylafax-server
[07:25] <Biscuit> Today I installed the new Ubuntu 14 (last time I used Ubuntu 12.04). Previously I enjoyed the VPN service "Private Internet Access" (PIA). I have been googling to try to get PIA on my new computer, but I can't get it to work. Per chance do any of you know how to make it work? I've got it installed, but the icon is red and won
[07:25] <Biscuit> * icon is red and won't go green
[07:26] <cfhowlett> Biscuit, have you a url to PIA?
[07:27] <Biscuit> Yes cfhowlett, I have been on their website, but they don't support Ubuntu 14. The chat guy said, "Sorry not supported," and disconnected.
[07:27] <cfhowlett> Biscuit, well, that would seem to answer your query ...
[07:27] <cfhowlett> Biscuit, 12.04 is supported until 2017
[07:27] <devslash> im using redo backup and recovery which is based on ubuntu
[07:28] <devslash> has anyone used this before ?
[07:28] <cfhowlett> devslash, not ubuntu.  not supported here.
[07:28] <Biscuit> ha ha, yes, but I have been googling and found forums where people say they have got it to work in Ubuntu 14. I am so close, but no cigar
[07:28] <devslash> ok nm another quest
[07:28] <devslash> i replaced my drive with ssd but it wasnt formatted
[07:28] <devslash> i tried formatteing it as ntfs
[07:29] <devslash> then mounting it but i get an error ntfs signature is missing
[07:29] <Beldar> devslash, Did you make a partition table?
[07:30] <devslash> yea just 1 partition
[07:30] <devslash> formatted as ntfs
[07:31] <Beldar> devslash, Okay, do you know what a partition table is, not a partition.
[07:31] <devslash> yes
[07:31] <DoverMo> or you could just make it fat32 like a baws
[07:31] <devslash> nope
[07:31] <devslash> has to be ntfs
[07:32] <DoverMo> aw snap
[07:32] <Beldar> devslash, The way you answered does not say that however at least no clearly.
[07:32] <Beldar> not*
[07:32] <devslash> i have a partition table
[07:32] <devslash> i created it with gparted
[07:33] <anonymous_> hello
[07:33] <devslash> is that the right thing to do
[07:33] <anonymous_> ?
[07:33] <daftykins> hi.
[07:33] <cfhowlett> anonymous_, ask your ubuntu questions
[07:34] <anonymous_> ?
[07:34] <DoverMo> devslash, maybe you messed it up
[07:34] <devslash> ok i erased everything
[07:35] <DoverMo> devslash, you want it mbr?
[07:35] <DoverMo> or gpt
[07:36] <devslash> its a macbook
[07:36] <devslash> so its gpt right ?
[07:36] <daftykins> depends what you're trying to achieve
[07:37] <devslash> ibnstalling an os
[07:37] <DoverMo> devslash, I DUNNO bro. 'parted /dev/sd[poop] ; mklabel mbr ; [make a partition] ; [format ntfs, wait a long ass time]
[07:37] <DoverMo> wait
[07:37] <DoverMo> lo;l
[07:37] <DoverMo> it's "msdos" not mbr
[07:37] <DoverMo> wtf am i smoking
[07:38] <Beldar> DoverMo, language please.
[07:39] <amitprakash> Hi, how do i create a ubuntu container using systemd-nspawn on a non-ubuntu distribution?
[07:39] <cynicallemon> DoverMo:: youre smoking linux ubuntu edition
[07:40] <ax562> why does ubuntu suck :)
[07:40] <bazhang> !ot | ax562
[07:40] <cfhowlett> ax562, no FUD.
[07:41] <ax562> it was a joke?
[07:41] <bazhang> wrong channel for it ax562
[07:41] <cfhowlett> ax562, it wasn't funny.  stop now.
[07:41] <ax562> I <3 windows
[07:41] <cfhowlett> bazhang, thanks.  zero tolerance is the best policy.
[07:42] <ax562> cant take a joke
[07:42] <ax562> geezus
[07:42] <bazhang> #ubuntu-offtopic for chit chat ax562
[07:43] <cfhowlett> !guidelines|ax562, suggest you start your own "joke" channel.  also, review and follow the guidlines for use.
[07:43] <ax562> lol
[07:43] <ax562> dude I'm on ubuntu
[07:43] <cfhowlett> ax562, ask your support questions.  stay on topic.
[07:43] <ax562> ok
[07:44] <ax562> how can i fix my nvdia driver issue?
[07:44] <DoverMo> go windows!
[07:44] <ax562> windoze
[07:44] <cfhowlett> !nvidia | ax562
[07:45] <ax562> not working
[07:45] <cfhowlett> !details | ax562,
[07:45] <ax562> new bug that is not hw accel my card
[07:46] <DoverMo> ..
[07:46] <DoverMo> ax562, like how?
[07:46] <cfhowlett> ax562, no details = no assistance.
[07:47] <ax562> woe...just sharing my bugs
[07:47] <cfhowlett> !bug > ax562
[07:48] <ax562> I don't care about piss contest
[07:48] <ax562> linux vs windows
[07:48] <DoverMo> ax562, the nvidia drivers are non permissive closed source
[07:48] <ax562> just wondering why my pc doesn't live up to tech
[07:49] <DoverMo> ax562, the nouveau drivers are also strictly maintained by the free desktop community, however you could probably get a compiled version of the pre 3.10 nvidia release
[07:49] <ax562> i'm not trying to start a linux conflict
[07:49] <DoverMo> done! next customer
[07:50] <ax562> ?
[07:50] <cfhowlett> ax562, ? so why do you keep mentioning it?  if you have an actual support question: ask.  If you want to chitchat: #ubuntu-offtopic
[07:50] <Guest37482> hey everyone check out www.psykedelik-connection.com its my new social networking site, kind of struggling but still working on stuff in the future :) Thanks ! Nick K
[07:50] <cfhowlett> Guest37482, no spam.   unwelcome
[07:50] <ax562> ubuntu wants me to intstall drivers everytim e I log on
[07:51] <ax562> i install
[07:51] <ax562> then
[07:51] <ax562> again
[07:51] <ax562> install drivers
[07:51] <ax562> and video keeps skiiping, and skiiping and skipping
[07:51] <Guest37482> www.psykedelik-connection.com  #
[07:52] <Guest37482> #NICK K
[07:52] <cfhowlett> Guest37482, spam is a violation of the use guidelines.  stop spamming or go elsewhere.
[07:52] <ax562> not trolling.
[07:52] <Symian> ax562: weird, I've ran Ubuntu on dozens of systems that ran video perfectly. It sounds like maybe your computer is too old or cheap or something.
[07:52] <DoverMo> such troll
[07:52] <ax562> i was good about 4 months ago
[07:53] <ax562> lol
[07:53] <ax562> now I'm a target for asking for help?
[07:53] <c0d304> alt1
[07:54] <cfhowlett> c0d304, what?
[07:54] <c0d304> sorry was a mistake
[07:54] <cfhowlett> c0d304, no problem
[07:54] <Symian> ax562: did you install any major software before your computer became messed up? It might be a hardware failure.
[07:54] <ax562> ok. so no help?
[07:54] <cfhowlett> !patience | ax562,
[07:55] <ax562> no. I reinstalled ubuntu
[07:55] <Symian> ax562: where you live is it very hot weather? An overheated PC sometimes slows everything down.
[07:56] <ax562> I'm sorry.  That's why people feel intimidated comming to these boards.
[07:56] <ax562> Symian:lol. yes. I live in the iron core of earth. yes
[07:57] <Symian> Okay cool, good luck
[07:57] <ax562> exactly. thanks
[07:57] <DoverMo> ax562, read the manual
[07:57] <ax562> what?
[07:57] <ax562> read the manual?
[07:57] <loucal> I have been having the worst time getting my radeon 7790 to work with the catalyst drivers after upgrading to 14.04, no matter what my xorg.conf doesn't survive a reboot and I end up with only my apu (radeon 7480) working on reboot (monitors plugged into my gpu are black).  Anyone have any idea what i going on here?
[07:57] <DoverMo> yeah
[07:57] <DoverMo> read it
[07:58] <ax562> ok dude.
[07:58] <cfhowlett> !behelpful | DoverMo,
[07:58] <DoverMo> ax562, okay. i'mma be helpful. you actually have video skipping?
[07:58] <cfhowlett> loucal, 14.04?  current release is 14.04.1.  sudo apt-get dist-upgrade                    might fix you.
[07:59] <ax562> im not an expert but I would like experince opinion without judgement if possible.
[07:59] <DoverMo> ax562, you haven't answered my question
[07:59] <devslash> can anyone explain what kind of partition table i need to create
[07:59] <Symian> He's just trolling. Give it up boys.
[07:59] <ax562> I'm on 12.04 lts 64
[07:59] <ax562> dude
[07:59] <ax562> what?
[07:59] <DoverMo> yeah
[07:59] <ax562> trolling?
[07:59] <loucal> cfhowlett: thanks.. I only updated about 2 weeks ago to 14.04 but I'll try that
[08:00] <cfhowlett> ax562, pretty clear ... you're being observed.  stay on topic or ...
[08:00] <ax562> weird how people thing others troll.
[08:00] <ax562> ^see above.
[08:01] <DoverMo> ax562, ^see myy post
[08:01] <ax562> yes
[08:01] <DoverMo> ax562, you have.. frame skipping?
[08:02] <ax562> hd video skips
[08:02] <DoverMo> ax562, okay, and how much ram do you have?
[08:02] <ax562> 4gb
[08:02] <Symian> Onboard video cards suck at playing high end HD video as well.
[08:02] <Symian> Might be that.
[08:02] <ax562> windows play flawlessly
[08:03] <ax562> I have a lot of bluray
[08:03] <cfhowlett> ax562, current 12.04 version is 12.04.5         sudo apt-get dist-upgrade           may fix your issue.
[08:03] <ax562> i can try and will
[08:04] <loucal> Ok did a dist upgrade to 14.04.1 but no difference, on every reboot my beautiful xorg.conf is rewritten with an ugly 9 line one with 2 device sections one BusID "PCI:0@0:1:0" and the other PCI:1@0:0:0, does anyone know what could cause my xorg.conf to be rewritten on reboot?
[08:04] <ax562> would that mess up anything in my system?
[08:04] <DoverMo> ax562, it's either a ram, gpu (not drivers, the gpu capability), or cpu, limiting your HD playback. You can attempt to reinstall drivers such as your gpu's or maybe adobe flash if you use that, but I doubt those are the problem
[08:04] <cfhowlett> ax562, also test vlc-player.  it's in the repos
[08:04] <ax562> I'm currenty building
[08:05] <ax562> lol.  all work in windows. not a cpu gpu issue.
[08:05] <ax562> I play blurays beautifully in wondow without a hickup
[08:05] <DoverMo> ax562, windows is highly optimized
[08:05] <ax562> ok
[08:05] <ax562> so
[08:06] <ax562> ubuntu need optimization?
[08:06] <cynicallemon> ati video drivers are second rate in linux
[08:06] <ax562> nvdia
[08:06] <cfhowlett> ax562, you installed the restricted extras???
[08:06] <Guest37482> everyone check out www.psykedelik-connection.com thanks:) Nick K
[08:06] <ax562> no atie
[08:06] <cfhowlett> !ops | Guest37482 spamming
[08:07] <DoverMo> ax562, no. that's not the case at all with ubuntu
[08:07] <ax562> I'm just wondering why after installling with proper drivers I cant handle hd video
[08:07] <ax562> and in windows i can
[08:08] <cfhowlett> ax562, DID YOU install the restricted extras?
[08:08] <loucal> aticonfig -lsa does show both cards but the weak apu is the default and it seems to want to disable the 7790
[08:08] <edition> does Android-x86 work with virt-manager?
[08:08] <edition> *iso image
[08:09] <DoverMo> ax562, in this situation, windows has no similarities
[08:10] <ax562> cfhowlett: extras?
[08:10] <Beldar> edition, That would be a #android issue
[08:10] <ax562> DoverMo: similarities? one does a job one doesn't?
[08:10] <edition> ok
[08:11] <cfhowlett> ax562, ubuntu-restricted-extras      multimedia drivers.  also VLC is a reliable alternate media player.  Test both
[08:11] <loucal> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2220552 is actually exactly what is going on but I'm not having success like he is at fixing it
[08:11] <DoverMo> ax562, as in.. the way the software is coded between the two, cannot be reliably compared for accuracy
[08:11] <ax562> vlc is mediocre at best
[08:11] <ax562> one works one doesn't.
[08:11] <ax562> that's reliable.
[08:12] <cfhowlett> ax562,  so ... you tested it?
[08:12] <ax562> vlc never gave me good results before
[08:12] <ax562> 6 months ago
[08:12] <ax562> I can try again
[08:12] <ax562> by good result
[08:12] <cfhowlett> ax562, this is called "troubleshooting".  try method A.  outcome = X.  try method B.  outcome = X.
[08:12] <ax562> I mean HIGH quality video without skipping
[08:13] <DoverMo> ax562, there was a version of vlc that was causing distortion with the default sound server settings, but it's been fixed
[08:13] <ax562> ok
[08:13] <ax562> ok
[08:13] <ax562> I will try
[08:13] <ax562> I will be back with horrible results. my prediction.
[08:13] <ax562> brb
[08:13] <wafflejock> ax562: yeah VLC has been pretty solid for a long time for playing lots of codecs
[08:14] <ax562> yes but not hight quality video
[08:14] <ax562> EVER.
[08:14] <wafflejock> ax562: perhaps worth debugging further to see what bottlenecks you're hitting
[08:14] <ax562> vlc plays everything but at a meh quality
[08:14] <cynicallemon> mplayer is good IMHO
[08:14] <ax562> I use media player classic for hd video files
[08:15] <ax562> which wine will not execute
[08:15] <ax562> brb
[08:15] <ax562> should I use ubuntu-software center?
[08:15] <BuJitsuBrown> i recently upgraded to 14.04 from 12 lts. when my laptop boots up is say kubuntu  but my login screen and everything from that point on says ubuntu. does any one have a possible answer as to why this might be happing?
[08:16] <ax562> or should I go through vlc?
[08:16] <cfhowlett> BuJitsuBrown, at some point you test kubuntu?
[08:16] <ax562> apt-get?
[08:16] <BuJitsuBrown> yes i belive so like a year and a half ago
[08:17] <DoverMo> ax562, 'su -c "aptitude install vlc" root'
[08:17] <BuJitsuBrown>  another thing that bothers me is i dont ever get the grub screen
[08:17] <cfhowlett> ax562, sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras vlc-player
[08:17] <ax562> cfhowlett: I do not have vlc present on my system.  does that work?
[08:18] <cfhowlett> ax562, install vlc with software center not CLI
[08:19] <Beldar> BuJitsuBrown, Single OS installs bypass the grub menu, tap shift to see it.
[08:19] <cfhowlett> BuJitsuBrown, you can invoke grub ^^
[08:19] <cfhowlett> BuJitsuBrown, you won't normally see it until you install a new kernel
[08:19] <ax562> imho high quality video/sound architecture is ignored for linux support
[08:19] <BuJitsuBrown> oh ok thank you
[08:19] <cfhowlett> ax562, off-topic
[08:20] <DoverMo> BuJitsuBrown, if you edit /etc/default/grub and comment out the GRUB_HIDDEN lines, then remake grub config, you'll get the menu
[08:20] <ax562> not really
[08:20] <ax562> HD video?
[08:20] <ala-lala> Will installing Konversation install KDE?
[08:20] <cfhowlett> ax562, yes really.  opinion is not tech support nor is it something solveable here.
[08:20] <bazhang> ax562, take the chit chat elsewhere please
[08:20] <ala-lala> On Ubuntu, with Gnome Flashback.
[08:20] <bazhang> ala-lala, no
[08:20] <ala-lala> good
[08:21] <cfhowlett> ala-lala, run this command in terminal apt-cache show konversation
[08:21] <bazhang> ala-lala, some kdelibs however
[08:21] <ax562> ok
[08:21] <ax562> you guys are a hard bunch
[08:21] <bazhang> its a busy channel ax
[08:21] <ala-lala> I do already have K3B, so I probably already have some KDE libs.
[08:21] <abhishek__> hello everyone can anyone help ! I want to setup ldap authentication server for 5 lac users.please help me on storage calcultions
[08:21] <bazhang> ala-lala, thats fine then
[08:21] <cfhowlett> !server | abhishek__, might be better?
[08:22] <ax562> bazhang: lol.  people intimidate in a busy way though.
[08:22] <DoverMo> ax562, you are also dumb. linux can certainly handle HD/higher res and high fps
[08:22] <cfhowlett> DoverMo, please.  no insults.
[08:22] <ala-lala> !server | abhishek__
[08:22] <DoverMo> ax562, and linux isn't a single entity
[08:22] <ax562> DoverMo: I'm not dumb.
[08:22] <bazhang> ax562, theres a chat channel for a reason, and we have asked you politely many times to keep them seperate
[08:22] <abhishek__> thank u ubottu :)
[08:23] <ax562> bazhang: I'm posting asked.
[08:23] <ala-lala> !no server is <reply> Ubuntu Server Edition is a release of Ubuntu designed especially for server environments, including a server specific !kernel and no !GUI. The install CD contains many server applications. Current !LTS version is !Trusty (Trusty Tahr 14.04.1) - More info: http://www.ubuntu.com/products/whatisubuntu/serveredition - Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/serverguide/C/ -...
[08:23] <ala-lala> ...Support in #ubuntu-server
[08:24] <cfhowlett> ala-lala, ??? you had a server question.  ask in #ubuntu-server
[08:24] <ax562> I tried to open file. it force closed.\
[08:24] <ala-lala> No I didn't
[08:24] <bazhang> that was abhishek cfhowlett
[08:24] <cfhowlett> bazhang, doh!  darn shortcut completion!
[08:25] <ala-lala> And did my message to ubottu not work because of the length?
[08:25] <bazhang> heh
[08:25] <cfhowlett> ala-lala, sorry for confusion.
[08:25] <bazhang> ala-lala, its ok
[08:25] <ax562> lol
[08:25] <bazhang> ala-lala, in future, use /msg
[08:25] <ala-lala> oh
[08:25] <ala-lala> right
[08:25] <ax562> super lol
[08:25] <DoverMo> ax562, one of the first things you should do in an ubuntu distro, is install all of the media codecs you can. now.. that's a problem for most because they assume everything you ever need is installed by default : P
[08:26] <kopd> leave
[08:26] <ax562> DoverMo: did that.
[08:27] <ax562> kopd: what?
[08:27] <DoverMo> ax562, i doubt it. secondly. you should choose the correct drivers for your gpu. people also can get that wrong, if they have legacy cards for instance
[08:27] <kopd> sorry, error
[08:27] <ax562> DoverMo: I was on 12.04lts 64 with little hiccups.
[08:28] <ax562> DoverMo: should your os ask you everytime to choose video drivers?  EVERY TIME?
[08:29] <DoverMo> ax562, ubuntu 14, does not "ask" you ever to choose a driver.
[08:29] <Krone1232> it shouldnt
[08:29] <ax562> LOL
[08:29] <ax562> DoverMo. please
[08:29] <OerHeks> ax562, stop trolling please, keep this channel free for support.
[08:30] <ax562> no one is trolling
[08:30] <cfhowlett> ax562, it will do exactly that if you set software & updates to query Additional Drivers.
[08:30] <ax562> a lot of wierd people thinking people troll when looking for help
[08:30] <DoverMo> ax562, if you "failed" to install the driver for your gpu, the little driver pop up will show up
[08:30] <cfhowlett> ax562, drop the LOL's, stay on topic, drop the insults.  Trolling is obvious.
[08:30] <daftykins> it's your poor approach to asking questions that does it, ax562
[08:31] <DoverMo> ax562, it means, that you didn't install the driver!
[08:31] <ax562> ok.  so vlc is working
[08:31] <amitprakash> Hi, while booting my ubuntu container, I am facing http://bpaste.net/show/581384/
[08:31] <amitprakash> How do I resolve this issue?
[08:31] <Symian> #ubuntu has a 50 strike rule
[08:31] <Krone1232> ax 562 which graphic card do you have?
[08:32] <ax562> you "ubuntu" guys are banbarding me.    I'm not familiar with that term: hosted server or something else?
[08:33] <bazhang> lets get back to ubuntu support please
[08:33] <cfhowlett> Krone1232, yes SOMEONE is.  give your details.
[08:34] <cfhowlett> BuJitsuBrown, what is the output of terminal:   cat /etc/issue
[08:34] <bekks> Krone1232: Sounds like you do. Do you want to ask your actual question?
[08:34] <zhang_> ?
[08:34] <Krone1232> sometimes when i log in, language is set to EN
[08:34] <cfhowlett> !cn |zhang_,
[08:34] <OerHeks> BuJitsuBrown, this ubuntu-audio-dev ppa  has no Trusty candidates > https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-audio-dev/+archive/ubuntu/ppa
[08:34] <BuJitsuBrown> @cfhowlett
[08:34] <Krone1232> it doesnt stay on my default language settings
[08:35] <amitprakash> cfhowlett, debootstrapped container
[08:35] <BuJitsuBrown> idk know how to due a print out from termin direct to pastebin
[08:35] <amitprakash> lxc, systemd-nspawn, docket etc etc
[08:35] <Krone1232> so i have to manually change keyboard language every time
[08:35] <cfhowlett> !paste | amitprakash,
[08:35] <amitprakash> its virtualization w/o h/w virtualization
[08:35] <Symian> BuJitsuBrown: you can use the `script` command to initiate a logging session for your command line history
[08:35] <amitprakash> cfhowlett, huh ?
[08:35] <cfhowlett> amitprakash, ah!  Yes!  I *almost* understand that!
[08:35] <cfhowlett> amitprakash, right.
[08:36] <cfhowlett> !paste | BuJitsuBrown, to paste use
[08:36] <Symian> script /tmp/mysession, then do what you want recorded, then type exit. You can copy+paste from /tmp/mysession after.
[08:37] <cfhowlett> Krone1232, global language settings?
[08:37] <Krone1232> SI
[08:37] <Krone1232> it is set
[08:37] <BuJitsuBrown> ok thank you i will repost my question after i process that last bit of  info
[08:38] <Krone1232> the language indicator also says SI, but it is set to EN
[08:38] <amitprakash> Hi, while booting my ubuntu container, I am facing http://bpaste.net/show/581384/ ... how do I resolve this issue?
[08:39] <elmaestro> how do i install printer drivers from CD when it wont autolaunch?
[08:39] <cfhowlett> elmaestro, hp CD?
[08:40] <elmaestro> hp deskjet 1050
[08:40] <ala-lala> !server | ala-lala
[08:41] <cfhowlett> elmaestro, shouldn't need the CD for that ... have your tried "add printer" WITHOUT the CD?
[08:41] <Beldar> elmaestro, Open the printer app and use it's drivers, I have that printer.
[08:41] <ala-lala> Yay learning to use ubottu
[08:41] <elmaestro> sorry, am a novice, how do i open printer app?
[08:41] <OerHeks>  HP is supported fine in linux
[08:42] <Beldar> elmaestro, Type printers in the dash like you would for any app.
[08:45] <elmaestro> beldar, works just fine, thanks
[08:50] <kelvinella> Hello, can a laptop crashes the wireless router?
[08:50] <cfhowlett> kelvinella, seriously doubt it ...
[08:50] <gr33n7007h> kelvinella, depends what you do to it?
[08:51] <kelvinella> a windows laptop wirelessly connect to a NAS server.  trying to copy more than 1 GB of file from laptop to NAS, then connection crashes
[08:51] <kelvinella> then all other 7 laptops in the room disconnect wirelessly
[08:52] <Ben64> if you have a terrible router its possible
[08:52] <BuJitsuBrown> i am have what i think is som problems with apt-get update im getting 404's any ideas b/c idk what i am lokking at here http://pastebin.com/YikE8Ex3
[08:52] <tirengarfio> sound does not work on ubuntu 14.04
[08:53] <cfhowlett> BuJitsuBrown, terminal command: cat /etc/issue              what does this return?
[08:53] <kelvinella> Ben64, its a crappy TP link
[08:53] <BuJitsuBrown> ok....
[08:53] <kelvinella> Ben64, except physically restarting the router, what else can I do?
[08:53] <BuJitsuBrown> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7996459/
[08:54] <kelvinella> I am in the office, the router is in my boss's room and he is in vacation for a few days
[08:54] <Ben64> kelvinella: get a new router?
[08:54] <cfhowlett> BuJitsuBrown, typo!   cat /etc/issue
[08:54] <BuJitsuBrown> oh sorry ok
[08:54] <kelvinella> the router still working with cat5 cable, because I can access the NAS server from internet
[08:54] <kelvinella> just the wireless part not working
[08:55] <ala-lalakonversa> I am ala-lala, I'm just trying Konversation.
[08:55] <cfhowlett> ala-lalakonversa, we see you
[08:55] <daftykins> that's lovely but this isn't your IRC client test channel
[08:55] <cfhowlett> !test | ala-lalakonversa,
[08:56] <ala-lalakonversa> I just wanted to tell you that I am ala-lala
[08:56] <daftykins> i could've gotten by without that information
[08:56] <BuJitsuBrown> @cfhowlett a better result i think http://paste.ubuntu.com/7996495/
[08:57] <cfhowlett> BuJitsuBrown, better. you've got the current ubuntu.  you're seeing 404/s.  mirrors sometimes go down for maintenance.  check your software update settings for the best server
[08:58] <joshi_linux> hey guys - I have a sort of home internet problem. At the moment my house can use wireless internet via two routers. One is a dual band router and one is older and thus not dual band. What can I do if I only want to use one router (the better one) but I enforce mac address filtering and I have already filled up all the spots on the dualband router?
[08:58] <joshi_linux>  Can I turn the other router or routers into a repeater to improve the wireless signal of the Single Wireless network that I want to create?
[08:58] <OerHeks> BuJitsuBrown, this ubuntu-audio-dev ppa  has no Trusty candidates > https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-audio-dev/+archive/ubuntu/ppa
[08:58] <PoolShark_> hi all.. anyone know how to get the ATI drivers for the Kabini CPUs to work? The Xorg driver consumes about half the CPU :-/
[09:00] <marcos__> Hello
[09:00] <horrow> Hey
[09:00] <marcos__> How to install mscorefonts in ubuntu 14.04
[09:00] <marcos__> ?
[09:01] <cfhowlett> marcos__, sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras              observe the installer dialog
[09:01] <OerHeks> mscorefonts is part of restricted extras
[09:01] <horrow> clear
[09:01] <marcos__> I did this, but... don t work
[09:02] <cfhowlett> marcos__, do it again = paste the output
[09:02] <cfhowlett> !paste | marcos__
[09:02] <marcos__> One moment
[09:02] <joshi_linux> anyone know how to deal with letting more than 16 people on the one wireless network when doing mac address filtering? I've filled up my list of available users (16)? but want more - can I setup a repeater?
[09:02] <horrow> I would like to know how to change lighDM resolution ? 14.04 x64?
[09:03] <bazhang> joshi_linux, try ##networking
[09:03] <joshi_linux> thanks
[09:03] <joshi_linux> what is the two ## in the channel name, I thought channels started with only one hash #?
[09:03] <ala-lala> ^ same question
[09:04] <cfhowlett> joshi_linux, not always.   many have ##
[09:04] <cfhowlett> ##linux        ##windows
[09:04] <joshi_linux> but why do they have ##?
[09:04] <Krone1232> was wondering that also
[09:04] <ala-lala> But why are there two #'s instead of one?
[09:04] <BuJitsuBrown> @cfhowlett  its these lines that worry me the most paste.ubuntu.com/7996522/ not to mention the fact that one of my update avenues is telling me to check my internet conection http://imgur.com/FXSUFH6
[09:04] <bazhang> topical and official
[09:04] <bazhang> two ## for the former
[09:05] <joshi_linux> ok, but what's the difference between topical and official channels?
[09:05] <cfhowlett> BuJitsuBrown, ppa!
[09:05] <marcos__> The dialog box says: "ubuntu-restricted-extras ya está en su versión más reciente" (ubuntu-restricted-extras are in the latest version)
[09:05] <cfhowlett> !ppa
[09:05] <bazhang> this is more appropriate for #freenode , however
[09:05] <cfhowlett> marcos__, ... in
[09:05] <cfhowlett> English?
[09:05] <marcos__> But when I open LibreOffice dont appear
[09:06] <ala-lala> !ppa | BuJitsuBrown
[09:06] <cfhowlett> BuJitsuBrown, if you recently upgraded, ppa's are NOT enabled/upgrade by default.
[09:07] <BuJitsuBrown> oh ok thank you
[09:07] <marcos__> Thanks for your help
[09:07] <marcos__> bye
[09:08] <horrow> nobody knows howto change lightDM resolotion on login screen?
[09:08] <cfhowlett> horrow, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LightDM
[09:09] <horrow> cfhowlett, allready tried this but doesnt work
[09:09] <horrow> i have missing files
[09:09] <cfhowlett> horrow, "reporting problems" is on the bottom of that *official support* page
[09:09] <horrow> ok thanks
[09:09] <horrow> :)
[09:09] <almostevery> hello everyone, in 14.04., once you enter your keyring password at the beginning, thekeyring program forever keeps the keyring unlockable just by right-clicking 'unlock', without having to enter keyring password ever again across restarts. moreover, this holds for even the hardware passwords. when you remove and reconnect a hardware, you dont need to enter password, can just decrypt it just by selecting 'unlock'. how has it been that this was designed s
[09:09] <almostevery> o?
[09:10] <tirengarfio> I can not hear any sound on ubuntu 14.04 Im using usb speakers
[09:10] <cfhowlett> tirengarfio, unplug the speakers.  Hear sound?
[09:11] <tirengarfio> cfhowlett, Im not on a laptop, im on a desktop computer
[09:11] <cfhowlett> tirengarfio, try headphones
[09:11] <tirengarfio> that's true, one moment
[09:12] <utente_> ciao
[09:12] <tirengarfio> yes, theres is sound
[09:12] <utente_> films
[09:12] <cfhowlett> utente_, no.
[09:12] <tirengarfio> even when both are plugged, but just in the headphones
[09:13] <cfhowlett> tirengarfio, sure those speakers work?  speakers have power?
[09:14] <elmaestro> is there a keyboard shortcut for switching between workspaces
[09:15] <gr33n7007h> ctrl + alt + arrowkey
[09:15] <gr33n7007h> ^^ elmaestro
[09:15] <lisak> hey, does anybody know how to open midnight commander in maximized window ?
[09:15] <tirengarfio> cfhowlett, yes, the speakers work in another computer
[09:15] <tirengarfio> even using ubuntu
[09:15] <lisak> --window --maximize       parameters don't work as in gnome-terminal case
[09:16] <tirengarfio> on ubuntu 12.04
[09:16] <cfhowlett> tirengarfio, grr.  there's a configuration in ubuntu - somewhere _ that needs your attention.  Sorry, but IDK exactly where to go ...
[09:19] <lisak> got it, gnome-terminal  --window --maximize -e mc
[09:21] <elmaestro> thanks, how about shortcut for the dash on launcher?
[09:21] <cynicallemon> tirengarfio, have you looked at this http://www.unixmen.com/2012003-howto-resolve-nosound-problem-on-ubuntu/
[09:26] <elmaestro> how about moving applications between workspaces? keyboard shortcuts
[09:27] <almostevery> hello everyone, in 14.04., once you enter your keyring password at the beginning, thekeyring program forever keeps the keyring unlockable just by right-clicking 'unlock', without having to enter keyring password ever again across restarts. moreover, this holds for even the hardware passwords. when you remove and reconnect a hardware, you dont need to enter password, can just decrypt it just by selecting 'unlock'. how has it been that this was designed s
[09:27] <almostevery> o?
[09:27] <cfhowlett> almostevery, question about design?  no developers in this channel.
[09:28] <almostevery> cfhowlett, obviously I am more interested in knowing if I can prevent that in the design view behind it
[09:29] <tim__> Hy all
[09:29] <almostevery> than in the design view behind it*
[09:29] <cfhowlett> almostevery, but that's not what you asked ... :)
[09:29] <cfhowlett> not exactly obvious
[09:29] <almostevery> cfhowlett, ok, I am asking it now, then :)
[09:30] <lisak> pls which repo does contain raring ? it disappeared from here http://cz.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/
[09:30] <cfhowlett> !raring
[09:31] <cfhowlett> !eolupgrade | lisak, note: raring is end of life = no more support.
[09:31] <tim__> i have some question over virtual box
[09:31] <tim__> need help with start up
[09:32] <tim__> also need link to copy - paste page - to show problem
[09:32] <cfhowlett> !paste | tim__
[09:32] <lisak> cfhowlett, well I have such a idiotic motherboard that Raring was the last release it was working on
[09:32] <cfhowlett> almostevery, looking for ubuntu + 14.04 + keyring
[09:33] <cfhowlett> lisak, old.releases.ubuntu.com
[09:33] <lisak> thansk
[09:33] <elmaestro> how do i pull up qbittorrent that seems to be running in the background?
[09:33] <almostevery> cfhowlett, thank you, waiting :)
[09:34] <cfhowlett> elmaestro, ps -x | grep qbittorrent
[09:35] <daftykins> lisak: you understand raring is EOL and thus dead, yes?
[09:35] <elmaestro> bad ps syntax
[09:36] <tim__> http://imgur.com/uFTvSzr this is my problem
[09:37] <tim__> i think..
[09:37] <cfhowlett> elmaestro, ps -x is the list programs command        | grep qbitttorent filters for qbittorent
[09:38] <tim__> any idea's?
[09:39] <daftykins> tim__: looks like the kernel module isn't loaded for your running kernel
[09:40] <bekks> Thats what the message says.
[09:40] <bekks> And it tells you how to solve it, too :)
[09:40] <daftykins> it's nice like that.
[09:40] <tim__> i was diasabling auto start.. :-S
[09:41] <cfhowlett> tim__, d e r p
[09:41] <tim__> i was having installed as on autoboot
[09:41] <tim__> was distracting
[09:41] <tim__> what means derp?
[09:41] <daftykins> i have no idea what you're saying
[09:41] <cfhowlett> tim__, nvm
[09:42] <daftykins> cfhowlett: thats not very nice
[09:42]  * cfhowlett slaps himself with the !behelpful factoid
[09:42] <tim__> come guy's.. not all have IQ for computer's
[09:43] <cfhowlett> tim__, did you do the fix that the error message gave you?
[09:43] <daftykins> tim__: your english doesn't make much sense
[09:44] <elmaestro> still no luck pulling qbittorrent from background to front so i can see whats downloading...
[09:44] <tim__> no, didn't have solid internet link yet
[09:44] <tim__> will try now
[09:44] <tim__> am..
[09:45] <tim__> yes.. have problem with that.. don't know what to do
[09:45] <tim__> :-S
[09:45] <bekks> tim__: The message tells you to run a specific command.
[09:46] <tim__> in console, right?
[09:46] <xpand> Hi, everyone.. I downloaded Verdana from here
[09:46] <xpand> http://www.fontpalace.com/font-download/Verdana/
[09:46] <xpand> and installed it through the font viewer
[09:46] <xpand> I'm not satisfied how it looks when "bold"
[09:47] <xpand> and I want to remove it, but I can't seem to find where it is
[09:47] <xpand> I looked up everything in /usr/share/fonts
[09:47] <cfhowlett> xpand, you installed through font viewer?  so uninstall with ... fontviewer?
[09:48] <xpand> cfhowlett: It doesn't have uninstall... I am currently viewing the font and I have a grayed-out button, sayin "Installed"
[09:48] <xpand> Btw, I have installed font manager, too, but the font isn't there
[09:48] <cfhowlett> xpand, rather than worry about uninstall, you could just --- use a different font.
[09:49] <geirha> xpand: probably somewhere under ~/.local/share
[09:49] <xpand> I am a web developer and the site that the designer made, has Verdana font
[09:49] <xpand> I need to see it like it is in Windows
[09:49] <xpand> okay, let me check
[09:50] <xpand> oh, thank god
[09:50] <xpand> geirha: you had it right, bro ;)
[09:50] <xpand> xpand@cvetomir:~/.local/share/fonts$ pwd
[09:50] <xpand> /home/xpand/.local/share/fonts
[09:50] <xpand> -rw-rw-r-- 1 xpand xpand 129393 Aug  9 12:17 Verdana.ttf
[09:50] <xpand> Thanks for the help, geirha
[09:51] <xpand> I owe you a beer and nachos :D
[09:51] <cfhowlett> !beer
[09:51] <tim__> am.. so how to execute that comand?
[09:51] <ovrflw0x> which is the latest kernel in ubuntu atm?
[09:51] <geirha> Nice, I'll take the beer, but you can keep the nachos ;P
[09:51] <daftykins> tim__: type it.
[09:52] <xpand> okay :P
[09:52] <tim__> terminal.. sudo /etc/init.d/vboxdrv setup.. ? says no command
[09:52] <xpand> by the way.. while on the topic, why TT fonts look strange
[09:52] <xpand> I tried the mscore package as well
[09:52] <cynicallemon> ovrflw0x, the one you should have if youve been doing updates
[09:52] <ovrflw0x> which is the latest kernel version in ubuntu atm?
[09:52] <cfhowlett> xpand, graphics settings
[09:52] <ovrflw0x> cynicallemon, ?
[09:52] <xpand> Verdana Bold seems very strange
[09:53] <xpand> ovrflw0x: what tool do you suggest to tweak my graphics
[09:53] <ovrflw0x> arch linux has 3.15.8
[09:53] <xpand> so I can see them as they are meant to be
[09:53] <xpand> (the fonts)
[09:53] <ovrflw0x> cynicallemon, have you updated ubuntu?
[09:55] <cynicallemon> my server has 3.13.0-32-generic
[09:55] <cynicallemon> arch will always be more current
[09:55] <daftykins> ovrflw0x: 3.13
[09:56] <cynicallemon> more current but more prone to breakage too
[09:56] <ovrflw0x> why don't you use arch cynicallemon ?
[09:57] <tim__> daftykins, http://imgur.com/D8ekK5v
[09:57] <cynicallemon> ovrflw0x, i did for quite a while
[09:57] <ovrflw0x> then what happened?
[09:57] <cynicallemon> ovrflw0x, they lost the KISS plot
[09:57] <cfhowlett> ovrflw0x, cynicallemon offtopic or PM please
[09:58] <cfhowlett> tim__, run as root = sudo CommandGoesHere
[10:00] <tim__> as root... sudo ?
[10:00] <cfhowlett> !root | tim__
[10:02] <tim__> ok... completly lost.. damn.. this is not for blond people
[10:02] <cfhowlett> tim__, run the command but precede it with "sudo"   no quotemarks
[10:03] <iceroot_> is it safe to use DSA keys instead of RSA keys? or is DSA not safe anymore?
[10:03] <tim__> i have try to do so.. "sudo /etc/init-d/vboxdrv setup" nothing happend..
[10:04] <cfhowlett> tim__, paste
[10:04] <tim__> pass.. and reply.. no command
[10:04] <cynicallemon> tim__, you trying to setup virtualbox?
[10:04] <tim__> yap
[10:04] <tim__> have some startup problem's..
[10:04] <tim__> had..
[10:05] <tim__> was disabling auto boot
[10:05] <tim__> now can't start it up
[10:05] <iceroot_> tim__: sudo /etc/init.d/ instead of /etc/init-d/ ? just a typo here?
[10:05] <cfhowlett> !paste | tim__, show us.  use your paste.  (2nd request)
[10:06] <tim__> http://imgur.com/D8ekK5v
[10:06] <tim__> is it the right one?
[10:07] <iceroot_> tim__: the error message says all
[10:07] <iceroot_> tim__: no such file or directory
[10:07] <iceroot_> tim__: so your command is wrong
[10:07] <cfhowlett> tim__, did you install DKMS?
[10:08] <tim__> ubuntu software center says installed
[10:08] <tim__> reinstall?
[10:08] <daftykins> tim__: run one of the following in the answer here - http://askubuntu.com/questions/53364/command-to-rebuild-all-dkms-modules-for-all-installed-kernels
[10:08] <iceroot_> tim__: virtualbox-dkms  you have that installed?
[10:08] <cfhowlett> tim__, terminal time.  sudo apt-get install dkms
[10:09] <cynicallemon> tim__, have you got the kernel headers installed?
[10:09] <iceroot_> tim__: sudo apt-get install linux-headers-`uname -r`
[10:09] <iceroot_> tim__: and sudo apt-get install virtualbox virtualbox-dkms
[10:10] <cfhowlett> ! too many cooks
[10:10] <tim__> it suppoest to be.. i was running xp on linux before
[10:10] <iceroot_> cfhowlett: your turn :)
[10:10] <cfhowlett> iceroot_, going to get a PBJ sammich
[10:11] <tim__> iceroot.. it hold the terminal saying >
[10:12] <tim__> after uname
[10:12] <tim__> ow... uname need's to be renamed?
[10:13] <iceroot_> tim__: no, just copy paste it
[10:13] <tim__> i did
[10:13] <iceroot_> tim__: you messed up the ` stuff
[10:13] <tim__> >
[10:14] <tim__> what is with the ' ?
[10:14] <iceroot_> sudo apt-get install linux-headers-`uname -r`
[10:14] <iceroot_> [sudo] password for michael:
[10:14] <iceroot_> Paketlisten werden gelesen... Fertig
[10:14] <iceroot_> tim__: it says `execute this`
[10:14] <iceroot_> tim__: everything between these ` will be handled as a command
[10:15] <tim__> does any1 have a team viewer?
[10:15] <tim__> :-S
[10:15] <tim__> aha
[10:15] <iceroot_> sudo apt-get install linux-headers-`uname -r` virtualbox virtualbox-dkms     <--- copy paste thise line until dkms
[10:16] <iceroot_> tim__: ^
[10:16] <iceroot_> tim__: and then virtualbox wiöll configure itself and when you get a kernel update or something similar it will auto config itself
[10:18] <tim__> am.. was there something removed?
[10:18] <cfhowlett> tim__, prior dkms kernel may be removed
[10:19] <iceroot_> tim__: we just think that your "/etc/init.d/vboxdrv" is wrong because that is something virtualbox will do by itself if installed correctly
[10:19] <tim__> seem's like a good half of my computer can't be located...
[10:19] <tim__> :-)
[10:19] <tim__> aa
[10:19] <tim__> ok
[10:19] <tim__> tnx
[10:19] <almostevery> cfhowlett, do you still remember me?
[10:19] <almostevery> :)
[10:20] <tim__> do i need to reboot now?
[10:20] <cynicallemon> yes would help
[10:20] <almostevery> or shall I repost the question, if you're busy?
[10:20] <cfhowlett> almostevery, repost
[10:21] <almostevery> hello everyone, in 14.04., once you enter your keyring password at the beginning, thekeyring program forever keeps the keyring unlockable just by right-clicking 'unlock', without having to enter keyring password ever again across restarts. moreover, this holds for even the hardware passwords. when you remove and reconnect a hardware, you dont need to enter password, can just decrypt it just by selecting 'unlock'. how can I change this default?
[10:21] <tim__> not working yet.. :-S
[10:21] <cfhowlett> tim__, you might need to restart vbox or ubuntu.  in fact, do so
[10:22] <tim__> will reboot.. hope i get back
[10:22] <tim__> tnx for now
[10:22] <cynicallemon> cfhowlett, just told him to do that
[10:29] <tim__> hy, i am back and so are my troubles
[10:29] <tim__> :-S
[10:31] <cynicallemon> tim__, try a "sudo dpkg-reconfigure virtualbox" from a terminal window
[10:36] <noxon_> Hi
[10:36] <ovrflw0x> cynicallemon, is it easy to upgrade to newer version of ubuntu, when it arrives? or one has to wipe out previous ubuntu and then install new ubuntu?
[10:36] <noxon_> 14.10 ?
[10:36] <ovrflw0x> for stability
[10:37] <ovrflw0x> hey noxon_
[10:37] <noxon_> hi
[10:37] <iceroot_> ovrflw0x: if not needed you should not upgrade, 14.04 has 5 years of support, 14.10 only 9?? months
[10:38] <cynicallemon> ovrflw0x, depends what version of ubuntu you are upgrading from
[10:38] <ovrflw0x> 14.04 to 14.10
[10:39] <iceroot_> ovrflw0x: why you would need 14.10 (when it is stable)?
[10:39] <ovrflw0x> iceroot_, for new features
[10:40] <iceroot_> ovrflw0x: then make a backup and just upgrade (after 14.10 is stable)
[10:40] <iceroot_> ovrflw0x: no need to reinstall
[10:40] <Ben64> it really is best to stay on the LTS versions though. you can get all the new kernels still
[10:41] <iceroot_> ovrflw0x: i share the opinion of Ben64
[10:41] <ovrflw0x> Ben64, but i won't get all the new features  added to desktop environmnet
[10:41] <ovrflw0x> ment
[10:41] <Ben64> what "new features"
[10:41] <ovrflw0x> new features added for 'convenience"
[10:41] <iceroot_> ovrflw0x: for me its more important to have a stable and tested system instead of any (crazy) ubuntu ideas for non-lts releases which are not tested before
[10:42] <cynicallemon> ovrflw0x, same but if you want the freshness of an arch linux system then debian sid would be your nearest equivalent to be honest
[10:43] <ovrflw0x> okay
[10:43] <iceroot_> ovrflw0x: if you are not facing any issues you should "never touch a running system"
[10:43] <iceroot_> of course it should be still supported with sec-updates
[10:43] <cynicallemon> ovrflw0x, ubuntu is more like a comfy chair than a racing car seat
[10:44] <iceroot_> 14.10 will have mir? or is that not a topic anymore for ubuntu?
[10:45] <ovrflw0x> iceroot_, what is mir
[10:45] <iceroot_> ovrflw0x: x-server replacement
[10:45] <trijntje> iceroot_: I don't think so, but you can enable it if you want to try it out
[10:46] <daftykins> #ubuntu+1 would likely be the place for discussion on the next version
[10:46] <trijntje> its the same for 14.04 I think
[10:46] <iceroot_> ovrflw0x: i guess since 2 years it was a big topic and because of that i removed nearly all ubuntu installations because of this "canocial own way"
[10:46] <iceroot_> daftykins: i am not sure if it is ubuntu+1 or +2 or +10 :)
[10:46] <cynicallemon> mir is the next upstart
[10:47] <iceroot_> cynicallemon: no
[10:47] <iceroot_> cynicallemon: ah ok, got it wrong
[10:47] <cynicallemon> :)
[10:47] <iceroot_> upstart, mir, amazon-shopping-lense.... all this crazy stuff... but ok i guess that is offtopic for the support channel
[10:48] <interweb> How do I can encrypt and lock an external hard drive on Windows and Ubuntu to use it on both ?
[10:51] <iceroot_> interweb: after the end of truecrypt i am not sure if there is still something for both systems
[10:51] <iceroot_> interweb: The reference implementation for LUKS operates on Linux and is based on an enhanced version of cryptsetup, using dm-crypt as the disk encryption backend. Under Microsoft Windows, LUKS-encrypted disks can be used with FreeOTFE.
[10:52] <Symian> Truecrypt 7.1a is still a safe bet
[10:52] <xpand> I installed the msttcorefonts again.. Verdana seems okay, but now Sans-Serif is displayed as Arial
[10:52] <xpand> Why is this happening?
[10:52] <iceroot_> Symian: its not supported anymore and will not get fixes
[10:52] <interweb> Why did they ended Truecrypt ? Was that because of some special but or encrypting problem in it
[10:52] <interweb> ?
[10:52] <iceroot_> Symian: so truecrypt is not an option anymore, its end of support
[10:53] <iceroot_> interweb: the developer says they are not interested anymore and its not a free licence
[10:53] <iceroot_> interweb: so you can not fork it
[10:53] <iceroot_> interweb: but i guess its some US stuff again
[10:53] <interweb> iceroot_, So how do I can trust it ?
[10:53] <iceroot_> interweb: as i said, you can not trust it anymore
[10:54] <iceroot_> On 28 May 2014, the TrueCrypt website announced that the project was no longer maintained and recommended users to find alternate solutions
[10:54] <Symian> There's actually a very recent / still active audit on that version of true crypt saying they haven't found it's broken yet. But yeah, it's end of support. The alternatives aren't great either, so that's why I suggested TrueCrypt's last audited version.
[10:54] <cfhowlett> interweb, do not use it.  very clearly stated by truecrypt
[10:54] <iceroot_> Symian: dont use it, its not supported anymore
[10:55] <iceroot_> Symian: you are also not suggesting windows xp anymore, because its out of support, does not matter if the last relese of xp was good or bad, no support, no sec updates, no checks
[10:55] <Symian> I'm just wondering that after that, what is the alternative?
[10:55] <iceroot_> Symian: of if the us finds some security issues inside it noone will fix it
[10:56] <iceroot_> Symian: LUKS on linux for example
[10:56] <iceroot_> Symian: truecrypt was (imo) never a big thing on linux, just on windows
[10:56] <Symian> All right iceroot_, I'll check LUKS out.
[10:57] <iceroot_> Symian: LUKS is the ubuntu default when you install a new system and you are asked for encription
[10:57] <xpand> anyone to help me with fonts?
[10:58] <xpand> sans-serif is different since I have installed msttcorefonts
[10:58] <cfhowlett> xpand, your font library may be scrambled.  I THINK there's a "rebuild library" option in the font manager
[10:59] <xpand> cfhowlett: I can't see such an option
[10:59] <cynicallemon> xpand, fc-cache -fv
[11:00] <xpand> cynicallemon: I've rebuilt the cache, but it's the same
[11:01] <xpand> I've tried fc-match to see what it prints out
[11:01] <xpand> xpand@cvetomir:/$ fc-match sans-serif
[11:01] <xpand> DejaVuSans.ttf: "DejaVu Sans" "Book"
[11:02] <xpand> However, in the browser, it's different
[11:02] <xpand> I'm not an expert in knowing fonts, but it's not the same that it used to be
[11:02] <cynicallemon> fonts are a grey area for me
[11:03] <xpand> cynicallemon: thanks anyway, bro
[11:04] <xpand> I'll try and do something about it
[11:04] <xpand> It's those MS fonts for sure
[11:04] <xpand> because I tried removing them.. and it was okay
[11:04] <nonuby> laptop with freshly purchased 60gd kingston sdd installed (nothing on), if I install ubuntu 14.04 from USB stick and stick to standard options will the installer select optimal block size and settings  automagically?
[11:05] <cynicallemon> xpand, damn MS :)
[11:07] <stanklord> hello
[11:07] <xpand> cynicallemon: yup.. last day at work I was struggling with making filters work on IE for 2 hours.. and all of that, just to find out that they have stopped support on IE filters :D However, the tutorials on how to make CSS filters work are still on MSDN
[11:08] <xpand> how is that not stupid.. morons! MS can suck my balls :)
[11:09] <xpand> Ubuntu - One OS to rule them all!
[11:09] <nonuby> filters too are expensive anyway for the sake of visual parity
[11:09] <xpand> nonuby: yeah, but why do they have to stop something that clearly worked?
[11:09] <daftykins> this is the wrong place for the above discussion.
[11:10] <daftykins> take it to #ubuntu-offtopic please
[11:10] <stanklord> hi
[11:10] <stanklord> i am the stanklord
[11:10] <xpand> daftykins: yes, sir
[11:14] <joshi_linux> is it possible for ubuntu or any linux distribution to get an integrated notifcations system like mac osx has by installing some application.
[11:14] <stanklord> why doesnt anyone wish to converse with the stanklord?
[11:15] <joshi_linux> ill converse with you
[11:15] <stanklord> no
[11:15] <joshi_linux> can you help me
[11:15] <asuslaptop> where can I read about the non-free stuff on the Ubuntu that comes by default ?
[11:16] <joshi_linux> can anyone help me?
[11:16] <stanklord> i dont know what you're asking
[11:16] <stanklord> i am the stanklord
[11:16] <Abhijit> joshi_linux, ubuntu unity has notifications.
[11:17] <joshi_linux> and do other distributions have the ability to install some program to get integrated notifcations?
[11:17] <joshi_linux> Abhijit: Does ubuntu have file tagging like the mac too?
[11:17] <Abhijit> i dont know what is file tagging like mac.
[11:17] <streulma> are there people here using ubuntu on a Macbook Pro ?
[11:18] <streulma> I have problems with the broadcom touchpad
[11:19] <joshi_linux> Integrated notifications and tagging is all I need - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qv7FH9LDkyw
[11:20] <joshi_linux> Abhijit: file tagging is like that lijnk ^'
[11:21] <Abhijit> joshi_linux, cant watch it now. just try kde. thats the most advanced featured riched DE for linux as of now.
[11:22] <Abhijit> joshi_linux, ask in #kde how to do file tagging they might help
[11:22] <joshi_linux> thanks
[11:26] <samuraiRM> hello
[11:27] <daftykins> hi
[11:29] <samuraiRM> sorry in my desk appeared the folder "torO"
[11:29] <daftykins> it's not red is it?
[11:29] <samuraiRM> is a folder created by ktorrent
[11:32] <daftykins> samuraiRM: sooo are you here to ask a question?
[11:32] <cfhowlett> !details| samuraiRM,
[11:35] <linuxthefish> hi, how can i generate a bootable windows usb from ubuntu?
[11:35] <linuxthefish> winusb and unetbootin isn't working :(
[11:35] <samuraiRM> link for image?
[11:35] <linuxthefish> i have ISO and DVD, i've even tried with ISO's from windows site
[11:37] <royalaxe> linuxthefish: i typed "bootable ubuntu installer on usb stick" in google, grabbed the latest distro from somewhere and made the stick bootable with whatever program was suggested
[11:37] <daftykins> linuxthefish: if you formatted the drive as FAT, you *might* be able to 'dd' the ISO onto the drive
[11:37] <daftykins> royalaxe: you didn't read the question carefully enough.
[11:37] <linuxthefish> cheers daftykins, i'll give that a try - it works great with ubuntu
[11:37] <linuxthefish> ubuntu iso*
[11:38] <royalaxe> i can read minds
[11:38] <royalaxe> :)
[11:39] <linuxthefish> whoops, i nearly dd of'd onto sda xD
[11:40] <samuraiRM> ktorrent create a folder Toro?
[11:42] <littlebit> hi someone here?
[11:42] <nvdpl> Nope.
[11:42] <nvdpl> ;-)
[11:47] <stanklord> is gnome3 any fun to use?
[11:47] <compdoc> I only used it a week or so, and it looks very nice.
[11:48] <compdoc> I havent learned all the tricks, tho
[11:48] <Kira9204> linuxthefish: is the usb stick formatted as NTFS?
[11:48] <Kira9204> if not, there is your problem
[11:48] <linuxthefish> oh
[11:48] <stanklord> it looks very flashy
[11:48] <daftykins> Kira9204: that's completely false
[11:49] <linuxthefish> i will try DD'ing it to the usb stick first
[11:49] <cfhowlett> stanklord, it's free to install.  test for yourself.
[11:49] <daftykins> linuxthefish: make sure it's FAT32, the above is totally false.
[11:49] <linuxthefish> oh
[11:49] <Kira9204> daftykins: is it tho? Windows 7 and 8 works only on ntfs for me
[11:49] <linuxthefish> i think it was just plain FAT as formatted by the "disks" utility
[11:49] <Kira9204> whike fat does not boot at all
[11:49] <daftykins> Kira9204: total rubbish i'm afraid
[11:50] <Kira9204> well, it works for me so its worth a shot
[12:00] <Quezza> hey guys, i tried to recover my encrypted home directory with ecryptfs-recover-private and the "mount passphrase" But somehow the data in /tmp/ecryptfs.xxx is still encrypted but ecryptfs-recover-private said: "SUCCESS! Privat data mounted" - help pls
[12:02] <streulma> sudo rm -rf --no-preserve-root /mnt/hetznerbackup /
[12:02] <streulma> lol :)
[12:03] <streulma> someone did !
[12:11] <cfhowlett> !info ecryptfs
[12:11] <dragos> how to customise ubuntu live cd
[12:14] <dragos> how to customise ubuntu live cd
[12:14] <dragos> dolphin emulator not exist in trusty
[12:14] <IdleOne> !remaster
[12:15] <cynicallemon> dragos: although no longer developed, remastersys still works i hear
[12:15] <cfhowlett> cynicallemon, using unsupported software is not a good suggestion ...
[12:15] <dragos> how to customise ubuntu live cd
[12:16] <cfhowlett> dragos, read the @remaster link above!
[12:16] <cynicallemon> cfhowlett: your entitled to your opinion
[12:16] <dragos> what link
[12:16] <cfhowlett> !remaster > dragos
[12:17] <streulma> !mac > streulma
[12:20] <dragos> how to customise ubuntu live cd
[12:20] <f00fSteR> use fdisk -unix98 -verbose
[12:21] <dragos> how to customise ubuntu live cd
[12:21] <cfhowlett> !remaster | dragos, READ THIS LINK!
[12:21] <cfhowlett> dragos, asked and answered about 4 times now ...
[12:21] <dragos> now what
[12:21] <f00fSteR> http://customizeubuntu.com/ubuntu-livecd
[12:22] <f00fSteR> just go there
[12:22] <dragos> thx
[12:22] <cfhowlett> dragos, go there.  read the link.  follow the instructions
[12:22]  * Abhijit just had dejavu 4 times
[12:22] <f00fSteR> Sonikku ?
[12:22] <f00fSteR> Dude ?
[12:22] <f00fSteR> Andjrew ?
[12:22] <dragos> f00fSteR
[12:22] <f00fSteR> dragos: yado?
[12:23] <dragos> thanks for the link
[12:24] <Abhijit> now say that 4 times.
[12:27] <f00fSteR> yc
[12:27] <f00fSteR> yc yc yc
[12:27] <f00fSteR> for the other three ;-)
[12:27] <dragos> thx
[12:27] <dragos> +i dragos
[12:29] <f00fSteR> yw*
[12:29] <f00fSteR> yw my newbie friend
[12:29] <f00fSteR> yw good teacher!
[12:30] <f00fSteR> yw f00f ?
[12:46] <asuslaptop> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/Firmware < This needs to be updated as it says non-free kernel is not installed by default which is not true. It is installed by default on Ubuntu in guise of linux-firmware which is free + non-free on ubuntu else devices like AMD HD radeon graphics won't work out of the box with Ubuntu ..
[12:47] <cinnamon> asd
[12:47] <enchilado> k
[12:57] <swenzel> Hello together, is there someone who can read this? http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=8f57f0b72d65046469b8b6ce8a57ff6fe0371769
[12:57] <swenzel> http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=8f57f0b72d65046469b8b6ce8a57ff6fe0371769
[12:57] <swenzel> I can't get no sound out of my speakers and don't know why :/
[12:57] <MisterXX> haloo
[12:58] <cfhowlett> swenzel, also support available from the alsa project
[13:00] <cfhowlett> !sound | swenzel
[13:09] <Guest25532> Hi there! I'm getting an error when trying to upgrade my 12.04 system, after typing apt-get -f install: E: Internal Error, No file name for libc6.  It says li
[13:10] <daftykins> Guest25532: "it says li..." you got cut off there
[13:11] <Guest25532> sorry :) let me do a pastebin
[13:12] <Guest25532> http://pastebin.com/zRQyZRUn
[13:19] <killer> I have a machine that runs bootable usb 64 bit (14.04) quite well but is not able to load 32 bit image ,Is there any such issue with trusty  about that
[13:21] <TJ-> killer: Is it an UEFI based system?
[13:22] <killer> TJ-: No
[13:22] <killer> I made it bootable using uneetbootin and also with dd
[13:22] <killer> My netbook picked the usb but my desktop did not
[13:23] <TJ-> killer: For a legacy BIOS system, I can't think of an architectural reason for not booting an x86 image. How far does it get, or does the BIOS not even recognise the bootable device?
[13:23] <TJ-> killer: Not something as simple as boot order is it?
[13:24] <killer> No , I choose my usb from bootmenu and then , it stops there,some Error isgiven then , that Usb can't ben loaded
[13:24] <cfhowlett> killer, 1. verify the 32bit ISO  2. verify the 32bit USB.  or test ina
[13:25] <TJ-> killer: Is the USB a mass storage device, or ISO9660 image? (In other words, does it have a partition table and MBR) ?
[13:25] <killer> cfhowlett: The same usb worked on my netbook
[13:26] <TJ-> killer: Some BIOS won't boot from a Partitioned Device unless one of the primary partitions has its boot-flag active, even if there is a boot-strap loader in the MBR
[13:26] <TJ-> killer: You can change that easily with 'fdisk' if that could be the reason
[13:27] <killer> CAn I add the boot-flag using gparted
[13:27] <killer> ?
[13:27] <Guest25532> What can I do to fix this: http://pastebin.com/zRQyZRUn
[13:29] <TJ-> killer: Yes
[13:29] <killer> Okn , let me check it out
[13:30] <killer> thanx
[13:30] <TJ-> Guest25532: did you try the suggested correction?
[13:40] <Guest25532> TJ- yes I did
[13:40] <Guest25532> you mean sudo apt-get -f install?
[13:41] <TJ-> Guest25532: yes
[13:41] <Guest25532> I did :)
[13:41] <Guest25532> Then it says E: Internal Error, No file name for libc6
[13:42] <ActionParsnip> !info libc6
[13:42] <killer> On pressig the usb option on booting ,it says"No possible BIOS file found"
[13:43] <killer> _TJ
[13:43] <killer> TJ-
[13:43] <ActionParsnip> killer: did you Md5 test the ISO you downloaded?
[13:43] <TJ-> killer: That is a singular message; that comes from the PC?
[13:44] <killer> ActionParsnip: The same iso worked on my netbook
[13:44] <killer> YEs
[13:44] <ActionParsnip> killer: have you tried a different USB port?
[13:44] <TJ-> killer: That means you launched the PC's BIOS update function
[13:45] <TJ-> killer: check the system manual for the circumstances that cause it to expect a BIOS update on removable media. There may be an option in the setup, sometimes there's a jumper on the motherboard
[13:47] <killer> Yes The setting were a bit messed up , thanx ubuntu is booting now
[13:47] <TJ-> killer:  My bet is you're pressing the wrong key at boot to choose the boot device, you may be pressing the key for BIOS updates which offers a similar "Please select drive" menu as the manual boot device chooser
[13:47] <TJ-> killer: ahh, great, glad that was it - always prefer the simple solutions :)
[13:48] <killer> TJ-: Yes, and I was checking for different issues for over 3 hours
[13:49] <TJ-> killer: I know how it is... then you kick yourself if, like me, you realise you didn't plug the cable in :)
[13:49] <ActionParsnip> Hlad you got the gold :-)
[13:49] <killer> MY other machines usually boots up at F12 and I was trying it here too (F9 was the key)
[13:50] <joshi> hi guys - which part of ubuntu affects how the different programs look in ubuntu. Is it a theme? desktop manager? window manager, desktop environment or none of the above? I'd like to change my ubuntu to see if I can make it look more like mac osx?
[13:51] <ActionParsnip> joshi: the window manager mainly but other factors come into play
[13:51] <ActionParsnip> Joshi: there are lots of guides amd scripts and whatnot to mac-theme Ubuntu
[13:52] <Foreword> k
[13:52] <ActionParsnip> Joshi: what is the output of: cat /etc/issue
[13:54] <joshi> sorry ActionParsnip I'm not on an ubuntu machine at the moment.
[13:54] <ActionParsnip> Joshi: no worries
[13:54] <joshi> can anyone recommend a specific script or tutorial for the lots of mac lookalike type ubuntu things. One that they might have tried previously that works.
[13:55] <loucal> Could anyone point me in the right direction to investigate a video card slowdown?  My radeon 7790 is painfuly choppy when my screensaver comes on (skytentacles) but my much weaker apu (radeon 7480D) is fine.  I want to make sure I'm not part of some cryptocurrency mining botnet but I think if that were the case I would hear my GPU fans picking up.  I'm just lost as to where to start to investigate.
[13:55] <joshi> I also hear ubuntu has the ability for an apple mac like notifications centre where notifications for facebook, dropbox drive etc all appear? Is this true. What is the application called, is it available on other distros?
[13:58] <joshi> Oh and then there is.. Also I would like to look at trying to find and remove duplicate files. I have tried i think it is rmlint but I believe there is a faster application with a similar name, something LINT - does anyone know what it is? Also I would like to look at trying to find and remove duplicate files. I have tried i think it is rmlint but
[13:58] <joshi> I believe there is a faster application with a similar name, something LINT - does anyone know what it is?
[14:00] <zelda> Hi I have setup a lamp server using VestaCP. Whenever system mails are sent they do not have FQDN in from address. But I have properly set the FQDN: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7998650/ also I have set reverse DNS pointing the subdoain to the server IP. What might be the issue?
[14:01] <compdoc> zelda, what service sends the emails?
[14:01] <zelda> how do i check it?
[14:01] <LucaS05> hi. how can i start contributing to ubuntu code?
[14:03] <LostNva> joshi: fslint
[14:03] <zelda> compdoc: they are system emails, like emails sent after taking backups etc, how do I check the service?
[14:03] <ActionParsnip> Joshi: th notifications package is call notify-bin
[14:03] <joshi> ActionParsnip: thanks i'll look into that package.
[14:04] <ActionParsnip> LucaS05: contact a project and offer your services
[14:04] <LucaS05> where i can contact it?
[14:04] <ActionParsnip> LucaS05: use Launchpad. People put contact details on there
[14:07] <compdoc> zelda, I dont think theres a service thats installed by default to send email. I install nullmailer, because its very simple compared to postfix
[14:07] <linuxthefish> hi, how do i add public keys for apt-get update?
[14:07] <linuxthefish> "W: GPG error: http://download.opensuse.org  Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 1BE1E8D7A2B5E9D5"#
[14:10] <zelda> compdoc: I found EXIM installed, so i would have to look into it then. Thanks.
[14:11] <ActionParsnip> linuxthefish:
[14:11] <ActionParsnip> sudo apt-key adv --recv-key --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com A2B5E9D5
[14:13] <ActionParsnip> Opensuse have an Ubuntu repo?
[14:13] <linuxthefish> yeah
[14:14] <ActionParsnip> Weird but...oo
[14:14] <ActionParsnip> Ok
[14:15] <webfox> Hello guys!
[14:15] <webtux> hello fox :p
[14:16] <webfox> Does anybody know a cool start for study how to create a website session with php?
[14:16] <ActionParsnip> webfox: I'd try in an http channel.
[14:16] <webfox> ActionParsnip: all right :P
[14:18] <otjura> I recently repartitioned my hdd to use xfs and noticed this in cfdisk: http://a.pomf.se/xdaytz.jpg
[14:18] <otjura> any explanation why there are those two 1.05MB empty spaces?
[14:20] <moschte> hallo
[14:20] <moschte> whois <moschte>
[14:20] <TJ-> webfox: how about the source: http://php.net/manual/en/book.session.php
[14:21] <webfox> TJ-: yes, looking into it. Thank you ;)
[14:21] <ActionParsnip> otjura: you will get a small space at the start of the drive. The on in the middle is just before the extended partition, maybe its working the same as the first primary partition.... just my guess
[14:22] <sgo11> hi, are anyone using lxde? after login, I saw "Xfce Notify Daemon" Error popup. It says "Unable to start notification daemon, Another notification xndaemon is already running". I have no idea why there are two notification daemon suddenly. which one is the default one in lxde? thanks.
[14:23] <TJ-> otjura: Usually the first sector used by partitions is 2048 to allow certain alignments to work across various types of disks
[14:23] <ActionParsnip> sgo11: did you install lxde on xubuntu?
[14:24] <sgo11> ActionParsnip, no. lxde on ubuntu gnome. this didn't happen before.
[14:25] <ActionParsnip> sgo11: are there any bugs reported?
[14:25] <sgo11> ActionParsnip, what I did yesterday is: add lubuntu daily dev, install lxqt and update then upgrade. And then I ppa-purge the ppa and did update/upgrade again. that's all. this error didn't happen yesterday restart though.
[14:26] <sgo11> ActionParsnip, not sure about bug report. once I found this error, I did google. no luck. then come here.
[14:27] <ActionParsnip> sgo11: I suggest you report a bug
[14:28] <sgo11> ActionParsnip, ok. do you know which one is the default notification daemon? I don' want to see this error at every login. maybe I can remove another one.
[14:29] <TJ-> sgo11: check the process list and see if the parent ID of the 'xndaemon' processes helps identify the reason
[14:30] <sgo11> TJ-, I did "ps -ef | grep -i daemon". I didn't see "xndaemon"...
[14:30] <sgo11> don't*
[14:31] <TJ-> sgo11: that's probably an abbreviation for xfce-notify-daemon
[14:32] <TJ-> sgo11: maybe try "pgrep notify" to narrow it down
[14:32] <sgo11> TJ-, I can find xfce4-notifyd
[14:32] <sgo11> TJ-, I saw two xfce4-notifyd with PIDs 1994 and 2819.
[14:33] <ActionParsnip> Same parent PID?
[14:33] <sgo11> ActionParsnip,  both have the same PPID 1785.
[14:33] <TJ-> sgo11: that'l be the ones to investigate:  "xfce4-notifyd: /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/xfce4/notifyd/xfce4-notifyd"
[14:33] <ActionParsnip> sgo11: you could check the session file, see what gets ran when you log in
[14:34] <sgo11> ActionParsnip, there should be one xfce4-notifyd, right?
[14:35] <ActionParsnip> sgo11: not sure tbh
[14:35] <ActionParsnip> sgo11: check the lxde session file in /usr/share/xsessions
[14:36] <sgo11> TJ-, both are running the same command "/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/xfce4/notifyd/xfce4-notifyd" with the same PPID.
[14:36] <TJ-> sgo11: as ActionParsnip says... it sounds like maybe there's a double entry in the session.d/ maybe causing two to start "grep notify /etc/X11/Xsession.d/*"
[14:37] <sgo11> TJ-, nothing returns.
[14:37] <Enissay> Upgrading to the last version of sublime Build 3059 made my side panel buggy (in 13.04)... how can I roll back to Build 3047 safely ?
[14:37] <sgo11> ActionParsnip, what to check in /usr/share/xsessions ?
[14:37] <Enissay> http://www.sublimetext.com/3
[14:37] <ActionParsnip> sgo11: the lxde session file......
[14:38] <ActionParsnip> sgo11: it will show you some commands
[14:38] <ActionParsnip> Enissay: Raring is no longer supported in any way
[14:39] <sgo11> ActionParsnip, do you mean LXDE.desktop ? it shows startlxde.
[14:39] <ActionParsnip> sgo11: ok that makes things easier
[14:39] <Enissay> ActionParsnip, I know I must upgrade, but it wont be possible for another month... :<
[14:39] <sgo11> ActionParsnip, wait.
[14:40] <ActionParsnip> sgo11: lxde has config files in ~/.config/lxde somewhere with settings and commands to run on login
[14:40] <sgo11> ActionParsnip, I think you should look at Lubuntu.desktop. that is "Exec=/usr/bin/lxsession -s Lubuntu -e LXDE"
[14:40] <ActionParsnip> Enissay: thats fine, but the community cannot support EOL releases
[14:41] <ActionParsnip> sgo11: exactly, so check the 'Lubuntu' session settings
[14:42] <TJ-> sgo11: did you check what command has the parent PID of  1785 ?
[14:42] <sgo11> TJ-, 1785 is init --user
[14:45] <serviscope_minor> hi, so my upgrade from 1204 to 1404 has stalled unstalling libperl5.18.
[14:45] <serviscope_minor> The last message is:
[14:46] <serviscope_minor> GLib-CRITICAL **: g_once_init_leave: assertion `result != 0' failed at /usr/lib/perl/5.18/DynaLoader.pm line 207
[14:46] <serviscope_minor> anyone got any ideas?
[14:46] <serviscope_minor> there are many more error messages before that
[14:46] <serviscope_minor> from that package
[14:46] <TJ-> sgo11: OK, so "init --user" will start from "/etc/X11/Xsession.d/99upstart"
[14:47] <sgo11> TJ-, I haven't found where xfce4-notifyd gets started.
[14:47] <bjorkintosh> so if i connect any device to my laptop other than the keyboard and mouse.
[14:47] <bjorkintosh> it freezes.
[14:48] <bjorkintosh> is there a reason for this?
[14:48] <bjorkintosh> via USB.
[14:48] <ActionParsnip> serviscope_minor: are there any bugs reported?
[14:48] <serviscope_minor> ActionParsnip: er not sure what you mean. Can you clarify?
[14:48] <ActionParsnip> bjorkintosh: do you have the latest bios?
[14:49] <bjorkintosh> for my computer?
[14:49] <serviscope_minor> googling for it yielded a lot of copies of a few forum posts and little else
[14:49] <bjorkintosh> i'm not sure how i'd upgrade to it as it's  windows binary.
[14:49] <ActionParsnip> serviscope_minor: it may be a known issue, you can check on laumchpad
[14:49] <ActionParsnip> Launchpad
[14:49] <serviscope_minor> ActionParsnip: google didn't pick that up.
[14:49] <ActionParsnip> bjorkintosh: do you dual boot?
[14:49] <bjorkintosh> no.
[14:50] <ActionParsnip> bjorkintosh: ah
[14:50] <ActionParsnip> bjorkintosh: what happens when you try to boot with another usb device attached?
[14:50] <ActionParsnip> bjorkintosh: is it any device at all?
[14:50] <TJ-> sgo11: "init --user" reads its startup files from $XDG_CONFIG_DIRS: "/etc/X11/Xsession.d/00upstart:3:    export XDG_CONFIG_DIRS="/usr/share/upstart/xdg:/etc/xdg" "
[14:50] <bjorkintosh> any device at all.
[14:50] <bjorkintosh> it just freezes once i log in.
[14:51] <bjorkintosh> i wonder if it has anything to do with permissions.
[14:51] <ActionParsnip> serviscope_minor: google doesnt pick up a lot of things
[14:51] <bjorkintosh> 'cause it worked fine on 13.10
[14:51] <serviscope_minor> ActionParsnip: true. Nothing obvious stands out in launchpad
[14:51] <ActionParsnip> bjorkintosh: sounds like a bug then
[14:51] <bjorkintosh> after upgrading to 14.04, it's since been doing that.
[14:51] <bjorkintosh> hmm.
[14:51] <bjorkintosh> the next version comes out in october, right?
[14:51] <bjorkintosh> perhaps i might start upgrading now.
[14:52] <serviscope_minor> ActionParsnip: I'm now going to go with no, it's not in launchpad.
[14:53] <ActionParsnip> serviscope_minor: found this http://askubuntu.com/questions/453831/help-online-upgrade-from-12-04-to-14-04-stuck
[14:53] <ActionParsnip> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/zentyal-core/+bug/1310694
[14:53] <serviscope_minor> ActionParsnip: that has no answers sadly. I already found that one.
[14:54] <ubuntu_user> does anyone know how to get my nexus 7 2013 detected by adb and fastboot? i want to install ubuntu and get rid of android
[14:54] <serviscope_minor> well apart from abandon it and reinstall
[14:55] <ActionParsnip> serviscope_minor: might be the way forward. Personally I always clean install. Online upgrades seem to have too many issues so I don't bother.  In any OS.
[14:58] <yorwos> im using ubuntu studio which has xfce , i have tried to install kwin in the past but i get a lot errors if i do kwin --replace , should i uninstall re-install kde-whatever or ?
[14:59] <yorwos> kde-window-manager
[15:00] <Enissay> ActionParsnip, nvm, I installed ST2... and soon will install 14.04... thanks anyway <3
[15:00] <ActionParsnip> What is ST2?
[15:02] <fedor> is this the place to ask for help or i should go to another channel?
[15:04] <fedor> hello to everyone, is this the place where i can ask for help?
[15:04] <kostkon> fedor, this is the plae
[15:04] <kostkon> place*
[15:07] <ActionParsnip> Fedor: this is the official chanel for Ubuntu support
[15:07] <fedor> assuming it is, i want to know if the problem with my sound is solvable. Couple of days ago i installed U 14.04. Everything was quite OK. Then i couldn not watch anything with the cue of sound. I solved it somehow with alsa or pulse (can't say what was indeed the solution). Now again, after I updated the system (thought i am not inclined to assume that this update was the problem) sound does not work again.
[15:09] <fedor> I am now desperate. If nothing helps i am going to delete U14.04. And that is promissing me some great problems. Last time i tried to do it i almost lost my ready-for-defence thesis.
[15:11] <bjorkintosh> you didn't back up, fedor?
[15:11] <bjorkintosh> tsk tsk.
[15:13] <fedor> Then I was sure that nothing out of the ordinary will happen. Alas, was I not right!
[15:13] <ubuntu_user> how to extract .img file of ubuntu?
[15:13] <bjorkintosh> so have you learnt to back-up now?
[15:13] <ubuntu_user> or mount it to access is content
[15:14] <TiagoTiago> Hi
[15:15] <fedor> I formatted partitions with U and tried to boot into already installed W-s. But i could not even with liveCD. I was terrified. However I found how to solve the problem. But now, I think, is not the time to mourn for the times long gone. I want to solve my sound issue. Is there any way to do it apart from pulse and alsamixer?
[15:15] <TiagoTiago> I got a bios RAID 5 array with 3 physical disks and 2 volumes; one volume I got Win7, and I was planning on installing Ubuntu on the second one, but only the volume with Win7 shows (the two volumes are visible and work just fine when I boot Win7). What can I do to fix this?
[15:15] <ActionParsnip> ubuntu_user: why do you want to extract it?
[15:16] <ubuntu_user> ActionParsnip, i need the bootimg
[15:16] <ActionParsnip> ubuntu_user: if you want to put the data on a USB stick to install with, you don't extract it
[15:16] <TiagoTiago> I think it's BIOS RAID, it's on a Asus P8 H67-M Pro mobo
[15:16] <fedor> Tiago, how many drives you see on boot (in BIOS)?
[15:17] <ubuntu_user> ActionParsnip,  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Nexus7/Installation
[15:17] <ubuntu_user> manual installation section
[15:17] <TiagoTiago> the 3 physical ones; and the RAID setup screen shows the two volumes
[15:17] <TiagoTiago> That's not counting the DVD drive and the pendrive with the live Ubuntu installed
[15:18] <ActionParsnip> ubuntu_user: ok if you pulled the file out of the archive then you are done extracting
[15:18] <fedor> When you install, have you tried to select from the dropdown list of drives something?
[15:19] <ActionParsnip> ubuntulog: as shown by this command: sudo fastboot flash userdata /path/to/unzipped/*.img
[15:19] <ActionParsnip> ubuntulog: I hope its not the Raring image. Raring is no longer supported
[15:20] <TiagoTiago> It only shows the first volume (it shows the two partitions, the boot partition and the partition all the files are in; the partition Win7's setup created on that disk)
[15:20] <TiagoTiago> The Disks program, from inside the liveUSB "Try Ubuntu
[15:20] <TiagoTiago> oops, bumped on enter
[15:21] <TiagoTiago> The Disks program, from inside the liveUSB "Try Ubuntu" mode, shows both the 3 physical disks, and the first volume, but not the second one
[15:22] <TiagoTiago> and also things like the DVD drive, the pendrive, the virtual disks created by the live Ubuntu etc, of course
[15:23] <TiagoTiago> Gah! I should've bothered to install Chatzilla first; Freenode's IRC webclient is a pain to read :(
[15:24] <ActionParsnip> TiagoTiago: can you use a command to do with raid to scan the array?
[15:24] <TiagoTiago> I'm not very familiar with Linux; which command would that be?
[15:24] <beast101> hi
[15:26] <beast101> hi everyone
[15:26] <Arse_> hi beast101
[15:26] <TiagoTiago> hello
[15:26] <fedor> hi beast
[15:26] <beast101> how's it going?
[15:26] <fedor> not so good
[15:27] <beast101> why?
[15:27] <tk456> hi any reason why ubuntu 14.04.1 live can't read my windows ntfs drives?
[15:27] <tk456> it could before
[15:27] <MonkeyDust> fedor  beast101 #ubuntu-offtopic for nice social chat please
[15:28] <tk456> says my drives are unclean???
[15:28] <TiagoTiago> beast101: I'm so so; trying to setup Win7 and now also Ubuntu on a BIOS RAID 5 array for the last few days, messed up sleep patterns aren't a good idea if you're already depressed :(
[15:28] <TiagoTiago> Oh, oops, while I was writing my reply I missed MonkeyDust message, sorry
[15:28] <fedor> Got you point, MonkeyDust. The question remains, is there any way to tackle the sound issue apart from configuring alsa or pulse?
[15:28] <hellknight> Is there anything like Sequel Pro for Ubuntu?
[15:29] <MonkeyDust> hellknight  what's sequel pro?
[15:29] <hellknight> it is a MySQL client for OS X.
[15:30] <webtux> hi guys , i have a swap partition placed at the end of my hdd disk; i just want to know if there is a "best place" (speed speaking) in the disk; i mean, is the end of the disk slower/faster than the start ?
[15:30] <ActionParsnip> tk456: if the NTFS is in an inconsistent state it will not read it
[15:30] <TiagoTiago> ActionParsnip:  I'm not sure if you missed my reply: <TiagoTiago> I'm not very familiar with Linux; which command would that be?
[15:31] <ActionParsnip> tk456: if its USB based and you didn't use the safe remove feature in your OS you will get issues
[15:31] <tk456> inconsistent, sounds about right, windows chopped up my 3gig drive into two parts
[15:31] <sgo11> Hi, I still can not find where starts xfce4-notifyd. but I found two processes in 'ps -ef'. one is "notification-daemon". another one is "xfce4-notifyd". If I close the error popup window, "xfce4-notifyd" is gone. I think that means "notification-daemon" might be "xndaemon" in the error message and cause xfce4-notifyd fails to start.
[15:31] <ActionParsnip> TiagoTiago: I know one exists. I dont use junk fakeraid. I use proper raid
[15:31] <TiagoTiago> Oh
[15:31] <ActionParsnip> tk456: Is it usb based?
[15:31] <sgo11> btw, I found "notification-daemon" starts from /etc/xdg/autostart.
[15:31] <tk456> no
[15:31] <tk456> ActionParsnip, no
[15:32] <ActionParsnip> tk456: if you have a windows OS. Chkdsk the partition to make sure it is healthy
[15:32] <TiagoTiago> I assumed I had proper RAID when I started things, the mobo says it got RAID support; only later I learned that it can be different from having a dedicated add-on card. And that there is also a way to do things by software.
[15:33] <tk456> ActionParsnip, kk will do thank you :)
[15:33] <ActionParsnip> TiagoTiago: yeah thats not quite the same thing
[15:33] <TiagoTiago> Though, from what I've read so far, it sounds like the mobo should make the RAID transparent to the OSes; works just fine with Windows, not sure what is going on with Ubuntu
[15:34] <TiagoTiago> But I keep finding things that contradict what I had concluded earlier, so I could be wrong about this too...
[15:34] <ActionParsnip> TiagoTiago: where y
[15:34] <ActionParsnip> TiagoTiago: sorry
[15:34] <TiagoTiago> np
[15:35] <ActionParsnip> TiagoTiago: where you go into the controller and setup the array, then the OS only sees the presented disks
[15:36] <TiagoTiago> Right after the video card screen, and before the POST screen, there is a screen that shows that if I press control-i it loads the RAID setup thingy
[15:36] <tk456> ActionParsnip, checked them, win says they have no errors
[15:36] <TiagoTiago> I mean, when I turn on the computer, that is what happens
[15:37] <ActionParsnip> TiagoTiago: try: sudo mdadm -s
[15:37] <ActionParsnip> tk456: is that with a full scan?
[15:37] <tk456> ActionParsnip, aah okies will do thanks again ;)
[15:38] <TiagoTiago> ActionParsnip: sudo: mdadm: command not found
[15:39] <ActionParsnip> tk456: if its the system drive you will need to reboot to get the scan to run
[15:39] <sonjbond> Unknown configuration key `foreign-architecture' found in your `dpkg' configuration files.      how to solve this problem ?
[15:39] <kelvinferraz> hello
[15:39] <MonkeyDust> sonjbond  is it ARM ?
[15:39] <TiagoTiago> On the software center it says it's for software RAID, but isn't software RAID a different thing from BIOS RAID?
[15:39] <tk456> ActionParsnip, hmm do you hit F4 or something when rebooting?
[15:40] <ActionParsnip> tk456: what to do?
[15:40] <tk456> chkdisk
[15:40] <sonjbond> what is ARM ?
[15:40] <ActionParsnip> TiagoTiago: its the same thing
[15:40] <ActionParsnip> sonjbond: a cpu architecture
[15:40] <TiagoTiago> ActionParsnip: thought software RAID was setup and ran by the OS itself and not by the BIOS
[15:40] <ActionParsnip> tk456: its a command, in command prompt. Or you can run the GUI application
[15:41] <sonjbond> hmm , I found this error when i use apt-get
[15:41] <tk456> ActionParsnip, roger ty
[15:41] <MonkeyDust> sonjbond  what's the output of    cat /etc/issue
[15:41] <sonjbond> Ubuntu 14.04 LTS \n \l
[15:41] <ActionParsnip> sonjbond: http://askubuntu.com/questions/82330/stuck-with-foreign-architecture-i386-when-using-apt-get
[15:42] <loucal> Is there any way to see what processes are using gpu time? My gpu is crippled
[15:42] <TiagoTiago> I think I remember reading that software RAID was also OS dependent (can't put Windows on an array setup by Linux because the Windows installer won't know about the array)
[15:42] <MonkeyDust> sonjbond  my guess is, i386 and amd64 are somehow conflicting
[15:44] <sonjbond> yep, I tried to install a modem driver of 32 bit on my 64 bit Ubuntu OS last night ..  after that I am seeing this error ..  and now my modem is not connecting ...
[15:44] <TiagoTiago> The box of my mobo says it got "Intel Rapid Storage Technology supporting RAID 0, 1, 5 and 10"
[15:45] <TiagoTiago> And the setup thingy at boot also says it is that "Intel Rapid Storage Technology"
[15:47] <ActionParsnip> Yeah its raid but its basically like a 'home user' grade
[15:48] <TiagoTiago> But is it the same thing as software RAID?
[15:48] <sgo11> TJ-, sorry to interrupt you. I found this /usr/share/dbus-1/services/org.xfce.xfce4-notifyd.Notifications.service which has the line "Exec=/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/xfce4/notifyd/xfce4-notifyd". is this where the program starts from? thanks.
[15:49] <sgo11> I still can not find why xfce4-notifyd autostarts.
[15:50] <MoPac> Hello. I'm looking for help with a reinstall-in-place. Situation: I accidentally broke my system through a chmod typo.  Ub-14.10, LUKS, btrfs. Now running from live USB with LUKS partition unlocked. Want to reinstall everything but leave my home folder alone a la https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuReinstallation
[15:51] <MoPac> But problem: installer doesn't give that screen recognizing existing installation. Options are only to put new system on. Do I need to mount my old installation somewhere? Or does the installer just not work like that anymore?
[15:52] <TiagoTiago> Hm, I guess I should've done it thru apt-get itself instead of the Software Center; got an error when trying to install that mdadm thing, and now when I tried to uninstall it to try again it stopped at "waiting for apt-get to close", which I guess means apt-get is waiting for some user input and Software Center is oblivious...
[15:52] <Peyam> Hi
[15:52] <TiagoTiago> nvm, seems it has moved on finally
[15:52] <Peyam> Does spotify ( NOT PREMIUM) work on ubuntu?
[15:52] <MoPac> Peyam: Yes
[15:52] <TiagoTiago> Still frustrating only seeing a static message and a non-moving progress bar...
[15:53] <Peyam> MoPac, I will try it now. if it requres Premium I will punish you