[00:59] <urupica> is there a way to encrypt the stored passwords in chromium with "chromium-browser --password-store=gnome"? it doesn't work in my lubuntu 11.10 box.
[02:52] <rezbd> upgraded to Lubuntu 11.10 but it was aborted before "cleaning up"
[02:52] <rezbd> showed failed to install something
[02:55] <rezbd> and can't see network icon on the bar. seems it's merged as both are black!
[02:59] <rezbd> if it didn't upgraded properly, what should I do?
[03:00] <rezbd> is there any way to check it out?
[03:01] <rezbd> that did it properly upgrade or not!
[03:25] <sagaci> hi, I'm trying to switch the window manager to compiz in 11.10, tried to add a custom .desktop file to /etc/xdg/autostart and it's still not showing up in the autostart desktop session settings. Also just tried switching the openbox-lxde to compiz but still using openbox...
[03:39] <sagaci> fixed it, just changed settings in /etc/xdg/L* to compiz instead of openbox
[03:51] <darkwize> how do i turn off the power management in lubuntu? i checked the desktop session settings and its not even checked and i cant seem to find the settings on menu either.
[03:51] <darkwize> any help would be appreciated. :)
[04:30] <darkwize> weird, it only activated once...hmm
[05:11] <l33_> hi
[05:18] <JohnDoe_71Rus> low
[05:22] <l33o> ;)
[05:22] <l33o> lubuntu 11.10 is working very smooth here :)
[05:22] <l33o> only the cpu fan of my laptop is allways running
[05:23] <l33o> but i guess this has something todo with kernel 3 and the bigger power consumption
[05:23] <l33o> mayb i will tune it with fancontrol
[05:29] <LucMove> Hello. My installation is frozen. Can somebody help?
[05:29] <l33o> maybe i can
[05:30] <l33o> LucMove - please explain frozen...when, where,how?
[05:30] <LucMove> I answered all questions - I think. Then it displayed each one of those nice "distracting" screens...
[05:31] <LucMove> The last one is displayed right now, "Getting Help"
[05:31] <l33o> never sas a getting help message
[05:32] <l33o> running lubuntu here on an old cheap laptop and on a n old cheap pc, both working perfect
[05:32] <LucMove> Yes, it does. It is a sequence of slides run during installation. The last slide is titled "Getting Help".
[05:32] <l33o> do you have a pc? is a nvidia gfx card built in?
[05:32] <LucMove> The cursor has become a wristwatch and I get no feedback on what is going on.
[05:32] <l33o> okay
[05:33] <LucMove> I opened a terminal and ran df -h, it shows me that the target partition is mounted, but not touched.
[05:33] <LucMove> All original free space remains free.
[05:33] <l33o> first
[05:34] <l33o> you can look, if you can switch to another terminal ny pressing and howlding down  cntrl +  alt + F2
[05:34] <LucMove> yes, I can
[05:34] <l33o> okay...maybe just restart and boot again
[05:35] <LucMove> sigh
[05:35] <l33o> maybe not directly install, but first load to live session and from the install icon from the live desktop then do the install
[05:35] <l33o> do you have raid?
[05:35] <LucMove> no, I don't
[05:35] <LucMove> And I am on live session.
[05:35] <l33o> are you using a cd or a usb stick as boot device
[05:35] <l33o> good. no raid
[05:35] <LucMove> usb
[05:35] <l33o> how did you made the usb stick?
[05:35] <LucMove> unetbootin
[05:36] <l33o> okay - unetbootin works here
[05:36] <l33o> but
[05:36] <l33o> it is sometimes a lil unstable
[05:36] <LucMove> I don't have a CD drive.
[05:36] <l33o> maybe try to setup the lubuntu boot usb stick with the ubuntu startup app in the menu, no with unetbootin
[05:36] <l33o> telephone
[05:36] <l33o> sec please
[05:36] <LucMove> It would help if distros began to wake up to the 21st century and provided usb stick images...
[05:37] <LucMove> what do you mean by "setup the lubuntu boot usb stick with the ubuntu startup app in the menu, no with unetbootin"?
[05:38] <LucMove> Sounds like you're suggesting a procedure I am not familiar with.
[05:42] <l33o> back
[05:42] <l33o> so,
[05:42] <l33o> first linux and ubuntu are ready to boot from usb -  instead of windows
[05:43] <l33o> on ubuntu, go so start menu, then system tools: there  you find the startup disc creator
[05:43] <l33o> but, first you should fomrat the stick with the disc utility
[05:43] <l33o> format as ext4
[05:43] <LucMove> No, I don't have tha.
[05:43] <LucMove> that
[05:44] <l33o> are yourunning ubuntu
[05:44] <l33o> ?
[05:44] <LucMove> lubuntu, live boot
[05:44] <l33o> okay
[05:44] <l33o> you can install then the startup disc creator
[05:45] <l33o> very small app from the original usbb repo
[05:46] <LucMove> lost connection
[05:47] <l33o> ;)
[05:50] <LucMove> Well, I have Startup Disc Creator
[05:50] <l33o> good
[05:50] <l33o> now, you used your stick, so probably its formatted for usb boot
[05:50] <LucMove> But the only usb stick I have is this one running the live session
[05:51] <l33o> try to setp ubuntu live on your usb stick -  if this wont work you have to format the usb stick again
[05:51] <l33o> okay -  then you have to install the live session you are using and then boot up to this installed ubuntu then and install to usb stick
[05:51] <LucMove> Is everything loaded in RAM? Can I erase/overwrite the current usb stick and the live session will not choke and die?
[05:52] <l33o> no, i guess not
[05:52] <l33o> which lubuntu are you now using ?
[05:52] <LucMove> latest
[05:52] <l33o> okay, then it works
[05:52] <LucMove> 11.10, right?
[05:52] <l33o> yes
[05:52] <l33o> on the gesktop you find the install icon right?
[05:52] <LucMove> yes
[05:52] <l33o> have you tried to install from this point ?
[05:53] <LucMove> that's what I used, and here I am
[05:53] <LucMove> looking for help
[05:53] <l33o> k
[05:53] <l33o> try again
[05:53] <l33o> and please tell me
[05:54] <l33o> first you choose language and keyboard
[05:54] <l33o> done ?
[05:54] <l33o> maybe you made some wrong settings with the partition manager
[05:55] <LucMove> I am pretty sure I did everything right.
[05:55] <l33o> best is to format the first partition with ext4 and another as swap, mount the ext4 partition as root
[05:55] <l33o> and install the bootloader grub to the first sector of the harddisc, not in the firdt partition
[05:56] <LucMove> I skipped grub
[05:56] <l33o> you need grub i think
[05:56] <l33o> why you skipped grub
[05:56] <LucMove> Best is for the installer to ask, Hey, should I mess with your existing Grub layout that has been working flawlessly for years? Not anything else.
[05:57] <l33o> as a first start, please follow the installation routine the installer offers you
[05:57] <l33o> okay
[05:57] <l33o> right
[05:57] <l33o> you ve got grub allready installed -  didnt know that
[05:57] <l33o> then leave the grubinstall
[05:57] <LucMove> My existing grub uses a menu.1st file in a tiny partition that exists just for that
[05:57] <l33o> k
[05:58] <l33o> try to run the lubuntu install now
[06:00] <LucMove> again?
[06:00] <LucMove> what about the Make Startup Disc thing?
[06:02] <l33o> you dont need it
[06:02] <LucMove> But the current usb stick is not working
[06:02] <l33o> because you setup lubuntu to the usb stick allready
[06:02] <l33o> is is
[06:02] <LucMove> It has failed twice
[06:02] <l33o> otherwise you would be able to boot up live
[06:03] <l33o> can you please tell me exactly at which point the install freezes?
[06:03] <l33o> you usb stick seems to work
[06:03] <LucMove> Welcome - select language
[06:03] <l33o> is there enough space on the harddisc?
[06:04] <l33o> yes
[06:04] <LucMove> 5 GB
[06:04] <l33o> allright
[06:04] <l33o> go on
[06:04] <LucMove> Preparing to install Lubuntu
[06:04] <l33o> good
[06:04] <LucMove> green light on all three requirements
[06:04] <l33o> go on
[06:04] <l33o> dont download updates while installing
[06:05] <l33o> dont install third party software and codecs
[06:05] <LucMove> yes, I unchecked that this time
[06:05] <l33o> k
[06:05] <LucMove> dealing with partitioning...
[06:05] <l33o> k
[06:06] <l33o> one big linux partition with mount poin  /
[06:06] <LucMove> sda6 -> ext4, mount as /
[06:06] <l33o> one maybe 700mb  as swap
[06:06] <l33o> yes
[06:06] <l33o> good, go ahead
[06:07] <LucMove> sda7 -> ext4, mount as /var
[06:07] <LucMove> swap is 2 GB
[06:07] <LucMove> all of these pre formatted
[06:07] <l33o> mmmm.....i am using only one partition and one swap
[06:07] <l33o> swap is too big but shouldnt be the problem
[06:07] <l33o> normally 1 gig should be enough as swap
[06:07] <l33o> how many ram  is installed?
[06:07] <LucMove> 2 GB
[06:08] <LucMove> same size for hard disk hibernation
[06:08] <l33o> okay, then 1 gb swap should be perfect
[06:08] <l33o> mmmm
[06:08] <LucMove> device for boot loader: /dev/sda2, a FAT32 partition. I dont want to change my sda boot sector.
[06:09] <l33o> stop
[06:09] <l33o> i think hibernation is the problem
[06:09] <LucMove> no, it isn't. I never used that.
[06:10] <LucMove> I just keep the size in hopes that someday Linux will be able to do that properly. sigh...
[06:10] <LucMove> But I never use it because it never really works right in Linux
[06:11] <l33o> k
[06:11] <LucMove> Waiting to click the Install Now button...
[06:12] <LucMove> launched
[06:12] <LucMove> now I see a world map and a Continue button
[06:12] <LucMove> the right time zone is selected already
[06:12] <l33o> yes
[06:12] <LucMove> selecting keyboard now
[06:12] <l33o> yes
[06:13] <LucMove> name, computer name, username and password
[06:13] <LucMove> Choose a picture [eye roll]
[06:14] <l33o> ;)
[06:14] <l33o> hehe
[06:14] <LucMove> select accounts I would like to import... I select nothing
[06:14] <l33o> yep
[06:14] <l33o> now, user name and passwords i guess
[06:14] <LucMove> Welcome - the slide show begins
[06:14] <l33o> hehehe
[06:14] <l33o> maybe you shouldnt click onthe slide show
[06:14] <l33o> leave it
[06:15] <l33o> maybe this is buggy
[06:15] <LucMove> I didn't, it begins on its own
[06:15] <l33o> just let the installer do its work
[06:15] <LucMove> after the last Continue button
[06:15] <l33o> yes
[06:15] <l33o> thats allright
[06:15] <LucMove> the slide show is playing
[06:15] <l33o> now get a cup of coffe
[06:15] <l33o> and be patient, should normally take 2-5 minutes
[06:16] <LucMove> Now I open a terminal and run df -h...
[06:16] <LucMove> the free space on the target partition does not change
[06:16] <l33o> maybe you could move the mount any1-2 minutes to avoid pc going in some sleep mode
[06:16] <LucMove> it is not filling up
[06:16] <l33o> just wait
[06:16] <LucMove> I really don't think it is working.
[06:16] <l33o> maybe the partition and the linux files are copied in the last step ( i dont know that, but maybe)
[06:17] <l33o> mmm
[06:17] <LucMove> I've been through this, waited 15 minutes...
[06:17] <LucMove> the slide show gets to the last slide and nothing happens
[06:18] <l33o> no harddisc activity led lighting ?
[06:18] <LucMove> nope
[06:18] <l33o> mmm
[06:18] <l33o> k
[06:19] <LucMove> Okay, I give up. I am going to try that Make Startup Disk thingy.
[06:19] <l33o> i dont think thats the problem
[06:20] <l33o> you could try to install directly
[06:20] <l33o> without going into the live ubuntu session
[06:20] <l33o> and it seems
[06:20] <l33o> there are some bugs concerning hibernating and ubuntu 11.10
[06:21] <LucMove> that's how I tried and it failec the first time around
[06:21] <LucMove> the second time I tried from a live session
[06:21] <l33o> mmm
[06:21] <l33o> you can choose install options
[06:21] <l33o> liken acpi off
[06:22] <l33o> this could be worth a try i think
[06:22] <l33o> sorry, i dont know what is wrong
[06:22] <LucMove> I see
[06:22] <l33o> yep
[06:23] <l33o> the only times linux acts strange is when there is no free harddisc space left
[06:23] <l33o> then i saw linux freeze
[06:23] <l33o> if you do have enought harddisc space ( as you told me) it shouldnt be the problem
[06:24] <LucMove> the usb stick is mounted read-only
[06:24] <LucMove> I can't change it
[06:25] <l33o> mmm
[06:25] <l33o> that should be allright too
[06:26] <l33o> please try again to install from start ( without going into live session) and with the option apic off (opetions F6 )
[06:27] <l33o> i have to leave now
[06:27] <l33o> good luck!
[06:28] <LucMove> thank you
[08:30] <teamahma> dunno why but my display brightness  allways goes to 80% after reboot. How can I set it to permanently 100%?
[08:55] <csyncope> hey how do i get a default .xsession
[08:55] <csyncope> it doesn't seem to be an option in the startup list
[09:46] <NRWlion> good morning ;)
[09:52] <teamahma> hello
[10:10] <NRWlion> teamahma: is there a way to get gimp in lubuntu 11.10? because via synaptic it isnt possible
[10:13] <csyncope> how do i make a custom desktop entry? I tried Exec=~/.xsession but that just gives me an error
[10:14] <JohnDoe_71Rus> on image http://postimage.org/image/2rnakf5d0/ nm-applet, volti, strange space, caffeine, kvirc. they all in tray. that is the space can be?
[10:47] <teamahma> NRWlion: open terminal and write  "sudo apt-get install gimp"
[10:48] <NRWlion> teamahma: thx will try tonight
[10:54] <bioterror> teamahma, I grew up near one gas station was in that tv show ;)
[10:57] <NRWlion> bioterror: hey there... long time no see ^^
[10:57] <bioterror> hi nrw ;)
[10:58] <bioterror> I hope you still have that new job of yours ;)
[10:58] <NRWlion> bioterror: hm. right now i still have it
[10:58] <NRWlion> but dont know how long
[11:08] <NRWlion> bioterror: what is the latest news on your end ;) ?
[11:09] <bioterror> nothing much actually, I'm just a candle that's burn from both ends ;)
[11:09] <bioterror> my work is so stressful that I started jogging twice a week and I go once a week to swimming
[11:10] <bioterror> funny thing how exercising releaves stress
[11:18] <NRWlion> bioterror: especially when you go ping ponging :D
[11:19] <teamahma> dunno why but my display brightness  allways goes to 80% after reboot. How can I set it to permanently 100%?
[11:24] <bioterror> from power manager?
[11:24] <bioterror> if you're talking about a laptop, teamahma
[11:25] <teamahma> but when I set it to 100% it is in 80% again
[11:33] <qwertymn> Hi, i just installed Lubuntu. But after reboot it didn't start. I was only able to get into it after I did " sudo lxdm"
[11:33] <qwertymn> anyone know howto fix that?
[11:35] <bioterror> oh well
[11:35] <bioterror> you should reboot, copy /var/log/Xorg.0.log to a safe place
[11:35] <bioterror> and then run again "sudo service lxdm restart"
[11:35] <bioterror> and examine that log ;)
[11:35] <bioterror> which you copied to safe place
[11:36] <bioterror> or you can just copy it without reboot
[11:37] <bioterror> :-)
[11:37] <bioterror> either way, we need to know what's the reason
[11:39] <qwertymn> bioterror, I already examined that log, but couldn't really find something obvious wrong
[11:39] <bioterror> no warnings or anything?
[11:40] <bioterror> telling that "this driver failed, moving to vesa" or something like that
[11:40] <qwertymn> i'll have another look
[11:41] <qwertymn> btw, i manually installed nvidia-current, because first it said that it couldn't find nvidia. could that be the reason>
[11:41] <bioterror> hmmm
[11:42] <bioterror> just a moment
[11:42] <bioterror> I'll WoL my htpc :D
[11:42] <bioterror> no I'm not going to do it
[11:43] <bioterror> does it require a xorg.conf?
[11:45] <qwertymn> not sure, i think i already rewote that using nvidia-settings program. Maybe i better first check if that fixed the problem, so i'm going to reboot
[11:45] <qwertymn> rebooting now
[11:53] <qwertymn> bioterror,  still doesn't work. It also says Start Light display manager --> FAIL when i boot
[11:55] <bioterror> okay
[11:55] <bioterror> now I get this
[11:55] <bioterror> you have "apt-get install lubuntu-desktop" from vanilla ubuntu?
[11:55] <qwertymn> yes
[11:55] <bioterror> okay
[11:56] <bioterror> qwertymn, sudo dpkg-reconfigure lxdm
[11:57] <qwertymn> bioterror, ok, did that , now reboot?
[11:57] <bioterror> you can try
[11:57] <bioterror> if that doesnt work
[11:58] <bioterror> then we have to do few commands more ;)
[11:58] <qwertymn> k, trying reboot now
[12:02] <bioterror> did it work?
[12:02] <qwertymn> bioterror, many thanks, that did the trick. However next problem: my panel is gone
[12:02] <bioterror> where did that go?
[12:02] <qwertymn> no idea
[12:02] <bioterror> qwertymn, if you're not using gnome stuff
[12:02] <bioterror> remove lightdm ;)
[12:02] <bioterror> sudo apt-get purge lightdm
[12:03] <qwertymn> and then reinstall?
[12:03] <bioterror> no
[12:03] <bioterror> you dont need lightdm
[12:03] <bioterror> as you're doing things with working LXDM
[12:04] <qwertymn> isn't lightdm better? (read that somewhere i though)
[12:04] <bioterror> I read from lubuntu mailing list that no ;)
[12:04] <bioterror> and how it can be better if it doesnt work
[12:04]  * bioterror wonders
[12:05] <qwertymn> k, did remove , now reboot again?
[12:05] <bioterror> no
[12:05] <bioterror> just enjoy your lubuntu :D
[12:06] <bioterror> next we should think about that lxpanel
[12:06] <bioterror> do you get launcher if you press "alt+f2"?
[12:07] <qwertymn> no, something flashes on the screen, but dunno what
[12:14] <bioterror> oh and now he's gone :(
[12:15] <NRWlion> bioterror you seem to be a little scary
[12:16] <bioterror> qwertymn, got panel back? :)
[12:16] <qwertymn> nope
[12:17] <bioterror> how new lubuntu configuration you have?
[12:17] <qwertymn> i can get it back by manually "killall -9 lmpanel" and then "lmpanel" again
[12:17] <NRWlion> cu laters
[12:18] <bioterror> laters NRWlion
[12:18] <NRWlion> bioterror: you can count on that ;) need to saty awake all night :(
[12:19] <qwertymn> bioterror, in what directory/file are the settings for lmpanel stored?
[12:19] <bioterror> qwertymn, ~/.config/
[12:23] <l33o> hi
[12:23] <qwertymn> bioterror, finally fixed. I moved a file called "top" away from ~/.config
[12:24] <qwertymn> bioterror, many thanks for the help! A last question: you also know how to get rid of very ugly fonts in lxterminal?
[12:24] <bioterror> qwertymn, yeah, I'm using rxvt-unicode ;)
[12:26] <qwertymn> bioterror, ok thanks, gonna try that. Again, thanks for help. See you
[12:26] <bioterror>  hey
[12:26] <bioterror> urxvt requires. Xdefaults
[12:26] <bioterror> .Xdefaults
[12:26] <bioterror> or .Xresources file
[12:26] <bioterror> it reads that file for configs
[12:27] <bioterror> qwertymn, http://ricecows.org/configs/X11/.Xdefaults grab mine with wget
[12:27] <qwertymn> so what should i do to get the fonts used by lxterminal?
[12:28] <bioterror> rename chromium to chromium-browser to make links open from terminal correctly
[12:28] <qwertymn> can also copy/paste i guess?
[12:28] <bioterror> or you can say in terminal: wget http://ricecows.org/configs/X11/.Xdefaults
[12:29] <bioterror> then: sudo apt-get install rxvt-unicode
[12:29] <bioterror> and you launch it with command urxvt
[12:30] <bioterror> ofcourse there's a urxvtd and urxvtc, if you use that daemon and then you launch those clients, you will get rather fast spawning terminal ;)
[12:31] <bioterror> not that plain urxvt isnt fast
[12:31] <bioterror> but where's my work motivation?!
[12:32] <qwertymn> bioterror, , done. Now i think i've got everyting in place, and can enjoy lubuntu. Great help, thans again
[12:32] <bioterror> np
[12:33] <bioterror> hey
[12:33] <bioterror> as you're a converted to lubuntu, remember to:
[12:33] <bioterror> ahh
[14:58] <croque> In lxterminal the scroll wheel on my mouse does not scroll the text when viewing a file with 'less' (or when viewing a man page). Any way to enable that functionality?
[17:36] <csyncope> how do i make a custom desktop entry? I tried Exec=~/.xsession but that just gives me an error
[17:38] <wxl> you mean you want another session, e.g. for another window manager?
[17:38] <csyncope> yeah
[17:38] <csyncope> like a different dropdown option that executes ~/.xsessions
[17:39] <wxl> the entries are in /etc/xdg/lxsession
[17:39] <wxl> just copy the Lubuntu one and edit it and that will make it really easy
[17:41] <csyncope> I'm not sure that's what i want... how do I make it start the ~/.xsession script
[17:43] <wxl> my memory of it is that the real script is .xinitrc
[17:43] <wxl> and .xsession just points to it
[17:43] <wxl> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CustomXSession
[17:44] <wxl> however
[17:44] <wxl> those entries in the drop down are different window manager options, more or less
[17:44] <wxl> just like what .xinitrc offers
[17:44] <wxl> so they do the same thing with less hassle
[17:44] <wxl> so i'd just start there
[17:45] <wxl> remember we're using a different display manager
[17:46] <csyncope> I know, i've enabled the xsession script from gdm many times
[17:46] <csyncope> it's very easy
[17:47] <csyncope> there is a desktop session option when you log in called "User defined session"
[17:47] <csyncope> and all it does is load the ~/.xsession script
[17:47] <wxl> try /etc/lxdm/Xsession
[17:47] <wxl> or hunt around in there
[18:37] <qwertymn> Hi, how can i add a custom application to the panelbar (so i can launch it from the panel?)
[18:37] <wxl> qwertymn: you mean like the stock pcmanfm and chromium entries?
[18:38] <qwertymn> no, i mean like for example  add xchat launcher to the panel
[18:38] <wxl> not totally familiar with xchat. i assume you mean you want an icon to click on and load xchat?
[18:39] <qwertymn> wxl,  yes, exactly
[18:39] <wxl> ok this is easy
[18:39] <wxl> right click pcmanfm or chromium (or one of those icons), click on application launch bar settings
[18:39] <wxl> the dialog will pull up a list of all the apps you have installed in the menu
[18:39] <wxl> xchat should be under internet i'm assuming
[18:40] <wxl> navigate there, click on it, click add, click ok
[18:40] <wxl> youre' done
[18:41] <qwertymn> well , that works indeed, but what i meant is also for example a command like "xkill", can i add that also to the panel?
[18:41] <wxl> you need to add a desktop entry
[18:41] <wxl> and then go through the above
[18:41] <wxl> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/Documentation/FAQ/Guides#I_don.27t_know_how_to_make.2BAC8-add_a_application_to_.22start.22_menu.
[18:42] <csyncope> nope :/ /wc
[18:43] <qwertymn> wxl, ok , thanks very much
[18:49] <phillw> wxl: hi, I got feedback from the dev regarding your sharing of a disk.
[18:49] <wxl> phillw: i shared a disk? :D
[18:49] <phillw> were you the one having problems with samba?
[18:50] <wxl> oh that sharing
[18:50] <wxl> yep
[18:50] <phillw> I'll pastebin up his reply, give me a few minutes to dig it out.
[18:50] <wxl> heh k
[18:54] <phillw> wxl: http://pastebin.com/s7M5sCgf
[18:55] <wxl> but that's talking about pcmanfm
[18:55] <wxl> i was talking about the command lnie
[18:55] <wxl> line
[18:56] <wxl> pcmanfm handled it fine
[18:56] <wxl> (although i couldn't browse to the share via network shares or whatever it is)
[18:57] <wxl> so i'm still thinking bug, but more in the lubuntu-core than in pcmanfm phillw
[18:57] <wxl> (bug assuming that we want to support samba shares right out of the box)
[18:58] <phillw> you would need to chat to both Julien & PCMan to ascertain where the gremlin is.
[18:58] <phillw> wxl: is it okay to PM?
[19:02] <qwertymn> hmmm, tried to add xkill to the panel, but it doesn't launch when i click the button
[19:03] <wxl> qwertymn: did you try running it in lxterminal? seems stilly but it might work
[19:03] <jgratero> I have video with my webcam, but no audio
[19:04] <qwertymn> in the terminal it works
[19:04] <jgratero> guvcview shows video as fine, so is cheese
[19:04] <wxl> if only it was lubuntu http://news.softpedia.com/news/Ubuntu-11-10-Powered-Webbook-Sells-at-190-229168.shtml
[19:04] <wxl> qwertymn: i meant making that part of the desktop entry
[19:05] <wxl> syntax is lxterminal -e command
[19:05] <wxl> well lxterminal -e xkill
[19:06] <wxl> jgratero: not ignoring you just don't have experience with that
[19:06] <jgratero> no problem bro, It's cool
[19:06] <jgratero> I know how it is
[19:07] <wxl> jgratero: is it usb?
[19:07] <jgratero> yup
[19:07] <wxl> try this.. but i have no idea it will help https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam/Troubleshooting#Fixing_Audio_problems_with_USB_webcam
[19:09] <jgratero> let me try it, and thanks :-)
[19:11] <qwertymn> wxl, no luck :(
[19:14] <LucMove> Hey, how do I report bugs? How? Where? To whom?
[19:15] <wxl> qwertymn: that's bizarre. i can't imagine why it wouldn't work. can you just click on the menu item?
[19:15] <wxl> (not the panel)
[19:15] <wxl> LucMove: couple ways of doing that. best bet's prolly launchpad. or the mailing lit (on launchpad)
[19:16] <wxl> what's yr bug?
[19:16] <LucMove> it is specific to Lubuntu, not sure about Ubuntu in general
[19:16] <LucMove> problem with the installer
[19:16] <wxl> ahhh
[19:16] <wxl> yes
[19:16] <wxl> what exactly problem?
[19:16] <qwertymn> well, i cannot find it anymore in the menu. It was there a few minutes ago
[19:16] <wxl> qwertymn: that may be your problem :O
[19:17] <LucMove> Installation failed four times on me yesterday when I tried to install / on one partition and /var in another partition. Installation worked on the fifth time, when I put everything on one single partition.
[19:17] <wxl> ahh fun
[19:18] <wxl> assuming with ubiquity?
[19:18] <wxl> oneiric?
[19:18] <LucMove> Oneiric
[19:20] <wxl> you can file the bug here https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity .. just make sure to point out you're using lubuntu and it will get filed appropriately
[19:22] <qwertymn> wxl, now it shows up in menu and works; but from the panel it still doesn't work....
[19:22] <wxl> qwertymn: that's baffling to me. all i can think is bug.
[19:23] <wxl> at least you have it in the menu :/
[19:24] <jgratero> wxl, couldn't solve it yet, but that page you passed is the right track to go, thanks a lot man!
[19:24] <wxl> jgratero: np
[19:24] <qwertymn> yes, but i'd rather have it in the panel. Anyway, thank for the help
[19:25] <wxl> qwertymn: i know. i wish i could tell you what's up with that. i might go dig for files that allow for the panel configuration and see if i can find something there but i gotta jet
[19:25] <wxl> might ask on the lxde list about it
[19:25] <wxl> or #lxde
[19:26] <qwertymn> wxl, ok, i'll give that a shot
[19:26] <wxl> qwertymn: please share if you get it
[19:28] <qwertymn> k
[19:37] <Cortex> how can i install lubuntu from my usb drive?
[19:37] <Cortex> or directly from ubuntu?
[19:38] <phillw> Cortex: you can create a lubuntu boot usb just as you would for any of the flavours
[19:39] <Cortex> er, thing is i've completely forgotten how to do that
[19:39] <Cortex> I've downloaded the .iso for lubuntu, so now what?
[19:39] <Cortex> (i know this sounds dumb)
[19:39] <phillw> you can also deirectly add lubuntu to ubuntu, but there are not yet the instructions to remove the ubuntu part
[19:41] <phillw> Cortex: what system are you currently on?
[19:41] <Cortex> on Ubuntu.
[19:41] <Cortex> I can just use Unetbootin, right?
[19:41] <phillw> Cortex: you can, or you can use the option in ubuntu to create a usb boot device
[19:42] <Cortex> how can I do that?
[19:44] <Cortex> nvm, I just used unetbootin
[21:28] <wxl> i'm gonna switch to claws. so much better than sylpheed
[21:29] <wxl> i figure if we're going the route of sylpheed we might as well use dillo for the browser
[21:29] <wxl> still, i wish i could get unified inboxes
[21:30] <LucMove> I agree, Claws is considerably better.
[21:30] <wxl> it's like night and day
[21:31] <abhort> howdy
[21:31] <wxl> yo abhort
[21:31] <abhort> whats up
[21:31] <wxl> nuffin u?
[21:31] <abhort> Same shit, different day..
[21:31] <abhort> havent been on IRC in ages.. ah, memories
[21:32] <wxl> heh so you decide to come bug us huh? :D
[21:33] <abhort> yeah, figured i'd join the room for my fav. flavour of ubuntu
[21:33] <wxl> yey
[21:33] <wxl> go lubuntu
[21:33] <abhort> indeed
[21:33] <wxl> (although i will admit i'm looking at debian right now)
[21:33] <abhort> i went fronm ubuntu to xubuntu and now lubuntu
[21:33] <abhort> whys that?
[21:33] <wxl> well i really only have one reason
[21:33] <wxl> cuz i love lubuntu
[21:34] <wxl> but the main reason is that there is no official support from canonical for ppcs
[21:34] <wxl> unlike debian
[21:34] <KM0201> abhort: i can give you my reason... 1. cuz unity sucks, 2. cuz xfce4 isn't much better, 3. cuz i just love lxde
[21:34] <abhort> yeah, unity does suck
[21:34] <wxl> the other day i was compiling something relatively small (network-manager) and had icepacks all over the darn powerbook just to keep it from shutting down due to overheating
[21:34] <KM0201> wxl: i didn't know debian had an lxde spin jus yet.. i will say, although i'm not a RH fanboy, Fedora's lxde spin, is NICE
[21:34] <KM0201> it's everybit as nice as Lubuntu
[21:35] <wxl> debian's got lxde now
[21:35] <wxl> that's another reason why
[21:35] <wxl> i REALLY like lxde
[21:35] <wxl> i was flying the xfce flag for a long time, but forget that
[21:35] <abhort> yeah it is really nice
[21:35] <abhort> heh
[21:35] <wxl> unfortunately there's no debian live for ppc
[21:36] <wxl> so i'm going through how to build my own debian live
[21:36] <abhort> Debian is nice... been thinking of playing with RH again, been years
[21:36] <wxl> ah, the live of the diyer intent on making old shit last forever
[21:36] <KM0201> wxl: are you totally sold on debian?  fedora might have PPC support
[21:36] <abhort> i just love apt tho ;)
[21:37] <wxl> i've not messed with fedora before
[21:37] <wxl> they do have ppc support
[21:38] <bioterror> how about ydl?
[21:38] <wxl> a little behind on said support tho
[21:38] <wxl> most recent is 12
[21:38] <wxl> yeah centos meh
[21:38] <abhort> aighty, im outta here, peace out homies
[21:39] <wxl> l8s
[21:56] <andantino> hello
[21:56] <wxl> yo
[21:56] <andantino> how is the new release so far
[21:56] <wxl> killer
[21:57] <wxl> get that bad boy on a live cd and give it a shot or just upgrade
[21:57] <andantino> im going to give it a shot later i think
[22:13] <xsaidx> hello guys idk why my usb stick doesnt get mounted when i plug it
[22:17] <wxl> xsaidx: you open pcmanfm and you don't see it on the left?
[22:17] <xsaidx> wxl: yess
[22:17] <wxl> weird
[22:18] <wxl> have you tried other usb ports?
[22:19] <xsaidx> yesh wxl infact i have only 3 abd there near eachother so i plug my modem i cant plug my usb stick  :P
[22:22] <wxl> i'm searching but you might try #lxde xsaidx
[22:23] <wxl> can you mount cds and/or network shares?
[22:23] <wxl> maybe gvfs is broke on yr sysetm
[22:24] <xsaidx> wxl: yeh i guess so cus lately thuna have installed some gui that i found it lets me sets action for each type of media when i plug it
[22:25] <xsaidx> how can i mount cds ??
[22:25] <wxl> well i mean if you put a cd in the drive does it show up on the left?
[22:25] <wxl> http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=2995386&group_id=156956&atid=801864
[22:26] <wxl> sounds like you need to check dbus, gvfs, udisks are all good
[22:27] <xsaidx> wxl: yeh it does but vlc doesnt play it automaticly
[22:28] <wxl> well that's another issue
[22:28] <wxl> but you do see the cd?
[22:28] <wxl> cuz that would imply gvfs is good
[22:29] <xsaidx> yesh i do see it
[22:29] <wxl> can you do like that guy and logout and drive mounted?
[22:31] <xsaidx> wxl: u mean i reboot with my usb pluged ??
[22:31] <wxl> looks like it
[22:34] <xsaidx> wxl: okis
[22:34] <xsaidx> hang on
[22:35] <wxl> yeah my usb works fine
[22:35] <wxl> get a little pop up even
[22:35] <wxl> and it shows up in my computer
[22:36] <wxl> are you on oneiric xsaidx ?
[22:43] <xsaidx> wxl: mad world ; ] as ukno it doesnt get mounted But the utility to format it  have it in its menu so i jst formated it and all is cool now
[22:43] <xsaidx> btw why many of my menu still there even i removed those programes
[22:44] <wxl> how did you remove?
[22:46] <xsaidx> sudo apt-get purge btw time to time purge doesnt do al the clean file it just claims that it does but it doesnt any tips to use
[22:46] <wxl> sudo apt-get remove should fix that
[22:46] <wxl> oop
[22:46] <wxl> autoremove i mean
[22:46] <wxl> anywho that should remove them from the menu so not sure on there
[22:48] <xsaidx> ok ill try
[22:50] <xsaidx> :P still there
[22:50] <xsaidx> i dont wanna touche the file of the menu tho
[22:50] <xsaidx> i wanna do it nicely
[22:53] <xsaidx> wxl: u there?
[23:05] <phil42> how can i restore the labels on the buttons in the task bar?  how can i reorder the buttons?
[23:09] <xsaidx> phil42: clicl right on it you ll see a menu that says task bar setting or sumthin  click it and there you ll have to add an element named launch bar where you can add icons of ur apps
[23:10] <phil42> i guess i need to rephrase my questions and ask them one at a time.
[23:10] <phil42> the buttons in the task bar used to have text labels,  i did something and now they don't have them anymore.   how can i get them back?
[23:14] <phil42> can i change the order of the buttons in the task bar?   some of them use the same icon and i forget which is which
[23:15] <phil42> is there a way to make the buttons show which windows are iconified and which are not the focus?
[23:16] <xsaidx> phil42 i dont believe that these icone from where u launch ur pogram have lables
[23:18] <xsaidx> phil42: you tlkin abt your windows programs when you minimize theme right yesh they have labels well also click right and you ll get an interface widh the option you lookin for
[23:18] <phil42> thanks   :)
[23:18] <wxl> backsies
[23:19] <xsaidx> on ur task bar click right then chose the top menu
[23:19] <wxl> anywho don't know what to tell you about your ghost programs, xsaidx
[23:20] <xsaidx> wxl: thanks ; ]
[23:21] <xsaidx> phil42: uw


[09:47] <bazhang> helpfixtriedeverythingnoworkhalpnaoplz
[09:48] <bazhang> I should @random that one


[14:51] <penguin42> https://mastodon.org.uk/system/media_attachments/files/108/657/540/845/799/720/original/95d2aabcdecd514d.jpeg
[14:52] <zxmpi> could mount those into a cardboard box side to fit the window better?
[18:52] <penguin42> quite probably, the initial thing was to extend it
[19:18] <zxmpi> as long as it does it's job sunday to wednesday
[19:19] <zxmpi> still 23c here indoors in the shade and feels awful even with a nice breeze from a fan
[19:20] <daftykins> :<
[19:20] <daftykins> Monday is set to be hellish here, big job is then as well D:
[19:20] <daftykins> also hi!
[19:20] <zxmpi> went for a short walk earlier. not a leaf stirring on a tree or bush
[19:21] <zxmpi> i thought uk had a code red weather alert. don't travel unless necessary?
[19:21] <daftykins> i just noticed some packets of dairy milk bars are going soft in my kitchen drawers
[19:21] <zxmpi> ireland is code yellow. just about 31-32c. code redneck :-P
[19:22] <zxmpi> put them into the freezer if there's space.
[19:25] <daftykins> i saw something new the other day, sticky toffee pudding hobnobs
[19:25] <zxmpi> haven't seen such here, mind when i go shopping i'm masked up without glasses so i might just not see them
[19:26] <daftykins> huh how come you lose the specs?
[19:26] <daftykins> sounds like a dangerous way to miss discount chocolate oranges :o
[19:26] <zxmpi> because they fog up wearing masks
[19:26] <daftykins> oh yeah, tedious that
[19:27] <zxmpi> i can smell a discount choccie orange. the skill of the hunt. hearing the crinkle of the cardboard packaging as you move through the shops
[19:27] <daftykins> man, i took the switch down to the new floor of the dentists today and the very first port on the patch panel was only giving my laptop 100Mb via autonegotiation, despite testing ok when i terminated it
[19:28] <daftykins> hehe
[19:28] <zxmpi> lots of talk about roads melting, rails bending and power outages. no mention of internet cabinets failing in the heat
[19:29] <daftykins> heh
[19:29] <daftykins> sparky hasn't powered up the air con units yet, hope he does first thing on Monday
[19:30] <daftykins> gotta haul down all the computers tomorrow, to avoid Monday's heat, maybe i should get up early and make a start
[19:30] <daftykins> had another window smashed last night, but the police arrested the guy \o/
[19:30] <zxmpi> replacement glass AND an aircon unit damaged i think :-P
[19:31] <daftykins> oh i timed my sentence badly, the window was my home one
[19:31] <zxmpi> you've mentioned home windows getting broken by drunken louts before so i assumed it was same
[19:32] <daftykins> mmm this was #3
[19:32] <daftykins> although my neighbour had his done too, not long ago
[19:32] <daftykins> May iirc
[19:32] <zxmpi> get a perspex cover. my brother did that after he had a breakin. in his own words, they weren't coming through that window angain :-P
[19:33] <daftykins> i have a layer on the inside as a kind of poor man's double glazing, it was smacked so hard it ripped the screws out down one side
[19:34] <zxmpi> hope you bring a small fan paper or electric with you on sunday and monday so you don't get stuck in an office with hot unmoving air
[19:35] <daftykins> we'll just beg the sparky to get the AC running i'm sure :D
[19:36] <zxmpi> if he's not off investigating a 'fault' at customers site with the biggest most powerful aircon for a day or 3
[19:38] <daftykins> :D
[19:39] <zxmpi> bringing a cooler instead of his usual toolbox :-P
[19:41] <daftykins> i'll keep my eyes peeled
[19:41] <daftykins> funny one with that bad cable termination, i bet whichever end i pick to try redoing first, it'll be wrong
[19:41] <zxmpi> sods law
[19:56] <daftykins> ok time for an early night, g'night \o
[19:56] <daftykins> gl surviving the heat!
[19:56] <zxmpi> o/
[19:57]  * zxmpi hopes 50 cool pops in freezer lasts 3 days