[00:02] <DanaG> Oh boy, 30% packet loss.
[00:03] <WelshDragon> ouch =\
[00:04] <DanaG> Oh, I see...
[00:04] <DanaG> that loss isn't between the iwl3945 one and the dd-wrt router...
[00:04] <DanaG> it's between the other PC (realtek rtl8187) and the router.
[00:05] <DanaG> USB wifi thingy is highly directional.
[00:11] <DanaG> Oh, and the USB wifi thingy is approximately scalding hot to the touch.
[00:26] <WelshDragon> How do you get something which is approximately hot =\
[01:21] <gluer> trying to get nvidia drivers installed on intrepid so i can test compiz, can someone point me in the right direction?
[03:33] <DanaG> http://klamstwo.org/evad/archives/59
[03:41] <DanaG> The state of iwl3945 is STILL rather sucky.
[03:41] <DanaG> s/The state of //
[05:58] <mojo_> allright, I know that Intrepid will tend to be very unstable and things will break and yes, it is indeed break somehow, I got into an issue with every program loaded, the screen flicks to black then flick back to normal, I would like ask if any bugs has been logged and I would love to know how to fix this, cheers
[06:12] <darthanubis> Bug #237801
[06:13] <mojo_> Bug #10333
[07:20] <DanaG> Argh, stupid iwl3945.
[07:20] <DanaG> If you repeatedly do 'iwlist scan' --- half the time it shows nothing.
[07:20] <DanaG> ipw3945 didn't have that issue.
[07:40] <DanaG> Oh, I just love how 'iwlist scan' randomly decides to sometimes give nothing at all on my Intel 3945 card.
[07:44] <ionstorm> where is the alpha iso
[07:45] <DanaG> I ingested it.
[07:45] <DanaG> (kidding. =þ)
[07:45] <ionstorm> lol
[07:45] <ionstorm> id like to see how it runs on virtualbox
[07:46]  * ionstorm throws in his hat to alpha test it
[07:46] <ionstorm> i love when things break
[07:46] <ionstorm> so i can fix it or learn a bit more
[07:47] <DanaG> Ion storm?  As in Tiberian Sun?
[07:47] <DanaG> Ugh, I hated those storms -- they even dented the actual GROUND, if I remember correctly.
[07:48] <ionstorm> yea
[07:48] <ionstorm> lol
[12:37] <danbhfive> anyone know about driver detection, for things like printers and wifi, and webcams too?  Is there a way I could help with those projects?
[12:39] <elky> danbhfive, #ubuntu-motu is a great place to find out about how to help with development
[12:40] <danbhfive> elky: ah, ok
[12:40] <danbhfive> thanks
[12:40] <elky> no problem
[16:16] <hydrogen> hi I upgraded to intrepid on my companys login server and now it won't start, why did you make this availible?????
[16:18] <danbhfive> hydrogen: see the /topic
[16:18] <danbhfive> hydrogen: afaik, intrepid is not actually available
[16:28] <jrib> hydrogen: intrepid is still under heavy development.  It isn't intended for production environments.  It is only for testers and developers (and people who do not care if their machine explodes) until it is released in october
[20:43] <so2> did anyone get wireless working with iwl3945?
[20:44] <so2> with the 2.26 kernel ...
[20:49] <DanaG> I haven't installed that kernel, for exactly that reason: no ubuntu-modules package, and thus no iwl3945.
[20:49] <so2> ah k
[20:49] <so2> mhhh
[20:49] <so2> wait???
[20:49] <so2> aren't these things in restricted?!
[20:51] <so2> it's a bit wierd here ... i think i have anything i need ... i see the available access points, but can't connect to one ...
[20:51] <DanaG> Odd.
[20:51] <DanaG> One possible workaround: compile a new iwl3945 yourself.  http://wireless.kernel.org/en/users/Download
[21:27] <Amaranth> so2: you just need the firmware
[21:28] <so2> where do i get it?
[23:54] <teamcobra> hello all... I've heard that the xen kernel and the standard kernel have been merged in ibex.... I'm running it right now, and everything is working nicely, except xen, xm list reports that xend isn't running
[23:57] <teamcobra> or have I just been misinformed? ;)


[04:18] <Jordan_U> How do I change a previous commit then rebase all of the following commits on top of that change?
[04:28] <RAOF> Jordan_U: I've never actually tried that, but I'd guess the "bzr-rebase" plugin would be a prerequisite.  Have you checked its documentation?
[04:40] <Jordan_U> RAOF: Yes, that was the first place I looked but the only way I can find to do it is to purposefully introduce a conflict for that commit, which is kind of ugly
[05:12] <lifeless> statik: stalking me ? :)
[08:36] <Peng> vila: ping
[08:42] <Peng> vila: Well... Trying out suppress_warnings on an old dirstate-tags standalone branch, accessing it over http (with CGI hpss enabled) or bzr+http, I still get one deprecation warning server-side. It used to be two, but it should be zero, no?
[08:42] <Peng> vila: (I put suppress_warnings in branch.conf, FYI.)
[08:43] <Peng> vila: No warnings server-side with bzr+ssh, though. :D
[09:38] <vila> Peng: I'm not there :-)
[09:38] <vila> Peng: Nevertheless, warning suppression most certainly need to be set server-side too
[09:39] <Peng> vila: I only set it server-side.
[09:39] <vila> Peng: But file bugs or comment on the existing one (can't remember which handy)
[09:39] <Peng> vila: OK.
[09:39] <Peng> I dunno, I like asking about things on IRC first for some reason. :)
[09:40] <vila> Peng: that's not unreasonable :-)
[09:43] <Peng> vila: The existing bug is bug #497694, FYI. :)
[09:47] <vila> Peng: right, can't remember who filed it though :-D
[09:48]  * vila goes back fixing  the kitchen
[09:51] <ruki> i did : bzr push lp:~userid/project-name/branch-name but i am getting this error:  bzr: ERROR: Not a branch: "/home/user/"
[09:51] <bob2> run it in the branch you want to push
[09:51] <bob2> int in ~/
[09:51] <bob2> er 'not in ~/'
[09:52] <Peng> vila: Well, I filed bug #498739. :)
[09:53] <ruki> bob2: i am sorry but i couldnt understand you!
[10:02] <Peng> ruki: Your home directory is apparently not a branch.
[10:03] <Peng> ruki: cd to the directory of the branch you want to push.
[10:03] <ruki> Peng: ok.
[10:10] <ruki> Peng: have a look at this: http://pastebin.com/d32e9a28a
[10:13] <Peng> Oh crap.
[10:13] <Peng> ruki: Um. Try pushing again.
[10:14] <Peng> That's a really trivial problem, but there isn't a nice button to press to fix it. Pushing again will probably work, though.
[10:16] <Peng> ruki: Hold on a second. What's the exact format of the upstream project?
[10:18] <Peng> ruki: Err, never mind, the error message included enough information. Your local repository is using a form that is not backwards-compatible with the upstream project. Even once you're able to push the branch to Launchpad, nobody will be able to merge it without upgrading their branches.
[10:22] <lifeless> lol
[10:27] <Peng> :(
[11:52] <AnAnt> Hello, how can I change the default push/pull targets ?
[11:52] <AnAnt> branches that is
[11:55] <bob2> --remember
[11:55] <bob2> or hack .bzr/branch/branch.conf
[11:57] <AnAnt> bob2: thanks
[13:08] <_Andrew> Do you always have to make a commit when you merge branches?
[13:21] <_Andrew> nevermind, the documentation answers all
[14:06] <NET||abuse> ooh, ubuntu packaged up bzr 2.0.3 today :)
[14:06] <NET||abuse> what cool fun updates should i expect?
[14:08] <gour> does bzr-git enable one to work with bzr locally and commit to github-based project?
[14:15] <jelmer_> gour: yes
[14:16] <gour> jelmer_: that's great to hear. thanks
[14:20] <ronny> gour: s/commit/pull and push/
[14:21] <gour> ronny: cool. how is pida?
[14:22] <ronny> gour: moving slowly, started to get rid of some weird deps
[14:23] <gour> ronny: you're using hg more than bzr?
[14:26] <ronny> yup
[18:16] <thrope> trying to use bzr-svn -... got the following error bzr: ERROR: subvertpy.SubversionException: ('Svndiff contains a too-large window', 185001)
[18:20] <jelmer_> thrope: you need a newer version of subvertpy
[18:20] <thrope> ah ok... it is a big commit. I'm using macports so i'm not sure how easy it is to upgrade but i'll try to get the newer
[18:20] <thrope> thanks
[18:31] <thrope> jelmer_: great that seemed to work
[18:34] <gour> thrope: i'm trying to dpush my local commit to github but get "bzr: ERROR: The remote server unexpectedly closed the connection". any idea?
[18:34] <gour> jelmer_: ^^^
[18:34] <gour> thrope: excuse me...wrong nick :-(
[18:56] <jelmer_> gour, what url are you pushing to?
[18:56] <gour> jelmer_:
[18:56] <gour> git@github.com:gour/django-mingus.git
[18:57] <jelmer_> gour: you need to use a URL
[18:57] <jelmer_> gour: e.g<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[18:59] <gour> jelmer_: this was better, but resulted in http://dpaste.com/135863/ i+ve to go afk. bbs
[19:26] <gour> jelmer_: any idea what's wrong?
[20:06] <haruspexed> hi how to export revision number of bazaar into a file with every commit? like into 1st line of css file
[20:06] <gour> jelmer_: now i see that the commit is published on githuh, but still wonder about the crash
[21:17] <lifeless> statik: hi
[22:00] <igc> morning
[22:30] <poolie> hi all
[22:33] <Peng> Good morning. :)
[22:38] <lifeless> poolie: hi poolie
[22:41] <poolie> hi
[22:43] <poolie> lifeless: did you get my pm?
[22:44] <lifeless> ah yes


[06:17] <thatgraemeguy> morning all
[06:18] <thatgraemeguy> Maaz_: seen kilos
[06:18] <Maaz_> thatgraemeguy: kilos was last seen 2 days, 11 hours, 33 minutes and 14 seconds ago in #ubuntu-za on freenode [2015-10-10 11:44:45 PDT], and has been offline on freenode since 2015-10-10 11:44:56 PDT
[07:01] <superfly> good eveningh
[07:50] <inetpro> hullo superfly
[07:50] <inetpro> oh and hi everyone else
[07:52] <inetpro> heatwave is killing me here
[08:01] <superfly> inetpro: heatwave? It's not a heatwave till it's above 40.
[08:02] <inetpro> ai!
[08:02] <superfly> inetpro: the winter cold has muddled your brains 😛
[08:02] <inetpro> maybe
[15:01] <magespawn> good afternoon
[15:24] <Kilos> greetings all, in hospital bed haha
[15:24] <magespawn> hi Kilos
[15:24] <Kilos> hi magespawn
[15:24] <Kilos> and good telkom mobile connection here
[15:25] <Kilos> will still see if i can find wifi
[15:28] <magespawn> public or private hospital/
[15:28] <magespawn> ?
[15:38] <Kilos> kalafong
[15:39] <Kilos> lol
[15:39] <Kilos> eating pap and cabbage stew
[15:39] <Kilos> luckily i brought salt
[15:40] <bushtech_> sterkte Kilos
[15:41] <magespawn> i know some of the private ones offer wifi, saw wifi in king edward in durban (Public) but that was apparently only for hospital management
[15:41] <Kilos> dankie bushtech_
[15:41] <Kilos> well ill see what i can find magespawn
[15:42] <Kilos> if there is wifi ill see whats involved in becoming management
[15:42] <Kilos> converted 1 guy to kde so far
[15:43] <bushtech_> becoming manangement very easy, just steal some money
[15:44] <Kilos> lolol
[16:07] <magespawn> home time for me chat later
[16:10] <Kilos> cheers magespawn
[17:16] <Kilos> wb skokkk
[17:16] <skokkk> thanks Kilos
[17:16] <Kilos> has anyone chatted to you yet
[17:16] <Kilos> i used to greet everyone and learn about them but been out of sorts for a while
[17:17] <skokkk> haven't really started a chat yet, been busy so just lurking mainly
[17:17] <Kilos> lol
[17:17] <Kilos> tell us a bit about yourself
[17:17] <Kilos> like where you are, what you do , and what system you are using
[17:18] <Kilos> ohi superfly inetpro
[17:19] <skokkk> I work most of the servers at specternetworks.com, use arch mainly but most of my pc's are ubuntu. I code websites and add SDK's to programs/games we need for scripts etc
[17:19] <Kilos> thats wonderful
[17:20] <Kilos> have you joined our mailing list yet
[17:20] <skokkk> I find it rather fun, no I haven't. Link/addr?
[17:20] <Kilos> and seen our site
[17:20] <Kilos> https://ubuntu-za.org
[17:20] <skokkk> looking now
[17:21] <Kilos> there should be a link in there to join the mailing list
[17:21] <skokkk> joined
[17:21] <Kilos> and we have a launchpad group
[17:22] <Kilos> https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-za
[17:22] <skokkk> it doesn't seem to be very active?
[17:23] <Kilos> well for the last 2 years or so everyones work has kinda doubled or more
[17:23] <Kilos> even here it has got quiet
[17:24] <Kilos> hi Tonberry
[17:40] <superfly> Hi Kilos
[18:41] <Kilos> hi gremble
[18:49] <gremble> Hey Kilos
[18:49] <gremble> How are you?
[18:50] <Kilos> good ty , lying in kalafong
[18:50] <gremble> That doesn't sound like a lot of fun
[18:50] <gremble> Pre or post op?
[18:50] <Kilos> pre
[18:51] <Kilos> op on the 15th
[18:51] <gremble> You're in early
[18:51] <gremble> O.o
[18:51] <Kilos> actually not bad here so far
[18:51] <Kilos> ya tests sigh
[18:51] <gremble> Lame
[18:51] <gremble> :/
[18:52] <Kilos> they have to test everything to be sure a little cut dont stop heart or something
[18:52] <gremble> You should use this time to learn how to program in Python
[18:52] <gremble> P
[18:52] <gremble> :P
[18:52] <gremble> xD
[18:52] <Kilos> lol
[18:52] <Kilos> whew now you starting
[18:52] <gremble> It's either that or mathematics
[18:52] <gremble> ;)
[18:53] <Kilos> i first want to see if i can find wifi
[18:53] <Kilos> i love maths when the teacher has nice legs
[18:53] <gremble> Haha then you just love the teacher's legs
[18:54] <Kilos> that why i failed mahs in matric
[18:54] <Kilos> lol
[18:54] <gremble> I also nearly failed maths in matric
[18:54] <gremble> xD
[18:54] <Kilos> haha
[18:55] <Kilos> have you seen inetpro online
[18:55] <gremble> I am not sure why the university let me study maths, but now I am getting distinctions. So I might not be able to do highschool mathematics but I can do this
[18:55] <Kilos> i just wanna see if he is ok then i can sleep
[18:55] <gremble> Yes, I saw him yesterday I think.
[18:55] <gremble> Send him an email?
[18:55] <Kilos> wonderful
[18:55] <Kilos> nono he must reply here
[18:55] <gremble> Oh alright
[18:56] <Kilos> him and fly pulled me from mails to here so i gotta get them back
[18:56] <gremble> :P
[18:56]  * Kilos waves to tumbleweed
[18:57] <Kilos> enjoy lunch
[19:08] <Kilos> night all. sleep tight
[19:20] <inetpro> Maaz_: tell Kilos I'm here all the time, it is you who is missing most of the time
[19:20] <Maaz_> inetpro: Got it, I'll tell Kilos on freenode


[03:08] <amithkk> My friend here is getting a error
[03:09] <amithkk> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/804753/
[03:11] <dobey> uh ok
[06:34] <KNRO1> Can anyone give some advice on this: https://answers.launchpad.net/launchpad/+question/184764 ?
[08:20] <tumbleweed> KNRO: you can't build the same version twice.
[20:39] <denik> which vcs is best supported by launchpad import?
[20:40] <denik> I'm having trouble with importing from mercurial, would I have better results if imported from git repo instead?
[21:07] <Adri2000> is there a known issue with ppa upload or am I doing something wrong?
[21:07] <Adri2000> dput, while uploading source.changes tells me "Changes file must be signed with a valid GPG signature: Verification failed 3 times: ["(7, 1, u'General error')", "(7, 1, u'General error')", "(7, 1, u'General error')"] : Permission denied."
[21:07] <EvilResistance> Adri2000:  that's a bug
[21:07] <Ampelbein> Adri2000: Known bug.
[21:07] <EvilResistance> but your upload was accepted
[21:08] <EvilResistance> Adri2000:  Bug #798957  if i'm not mistaken
[21:10] <Adri2000> ok. first time I encounter it even though I've done some ppa uploads during the past weeks
[21:10] <Adri2000> thanks


[04:02] <mup> Bug #1640671 opened: "No rack controllers can access the BMC of node: <node name>" when using OpenStack nova power driver <maas (Ubuntu):New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1640671>
[12:47] <mup> Bug #1640780 opened: Restarting image import leaves boot-resources empty (selection is made but not saved) <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1640780>
[14:57] <Braven> Good morning
[14:58] <brendand> Braven, hi
[14:58] <Braven> brendand:how are you
[14:58] <brendand> Braven, i saw you're question last night but it was too late to help, sorry about that
[14:58] <brendand> *your
[15:00] <Braven> brendand: Do vlans work with PXE?
[15:01] <brendand> Braven, they ought to, can you describe what you're seeing?
[15:03] <Braven> brendand:The node is failing on commissioning. It is able to boot to PXE. I can see file loading but it at the helper_*.py is having issue
[15:04] <brendand> Braven, do you have logs?
[15:05] <Braven> brandand:you are wanting the console logs?
[15:07] <brendand> Braven, wherever you see the helper_*.py issue
[15:08] <Braven> brendand: let me try to set the logs up.  So i need to redirect console to a serial over network?
[15:11] <brendand> Braven, if you're using 2.0 there is actually a syslog in /var/log/maas/rsyslog/
[15:12] <Braven> brendand:I am still on 1.9.
[15:21] <brendand> Braven, then no, you would need to get the serial console - or just give a bit more info about the error, exactly what it's saying
[15:31] <Braven> brendan:How do you redirect to serial console. I am able to connect to the server ipmitool and I am getting output but is there away to save it
[15:34] <brendand> Braven, you could just copy and paste, or if you wanted to put it in a file you can use tee
[15:35] <Braven> brendan:okay I will give it a try
[15:36] <Braven> Does anything in conmissioning script need to be changed?
[15:40] <brendand> Braven, i need to see what's wrong first
[15:42] <Braven> so reason it stop writing to the serial
[15:52] <Braven> brendand:sorry this is taking so long. I am still trying to get you the console log.
[15:53] <brendand> Braven, np
[16:16] <Braven> brendand: this is last thing I can see "Loading ubuntu/amd64/generic/trusty/release/boot-initrd........................"
[16:16] <Braven>  when logging console log :
[16:20] <brendand> hmmm. that's interesting
[16:21] <brendand> Braven, which version btw?
[16:21] <brendand> oh, trusty
[16:21] <brendand> yeah
[16:21] <Braven> brendand:So wrote down the error. Url_helper.py[WARNING]: Calling 'http://<subnet gateway>'//
[16:23] <Braven> latest-data/instance-d (caused by <socket.error'>
[16:23] <brendand> Braven, and where's that error?
[16:23] <Braven> errno 111
[16:24] <Braven> brendand:why is it try to connect my gateway IP and not maas server"
[16:26] <brendand> Braven, be good to know which log file that's in
[16:27] <Braven> brendand: I know.
[16:28] <Braven> brendand: What appication do use for connecting to the console
[16:31] <Braven> console=tty0 console=ttyS1,57600n8  should I add this to MAAS under setting-> Global Kernel Parameters?
[16:32] <brendand> Braven, you might need to, yeah
[18:37] <mwenning> Has anyone seen this problem?   MaaS 2.1, I can enlist and commission OK, but deploy dumps all sorts of error messages about cannot fetch files.   I cannot ssh into the node to see what's wrong, looks like it's not configuring the NIC's
[19:39] <mup> Bug #1459892 changed: User SSH Key is not editable <MAAS:Invalid by newell-jensen> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1459892>
[20:49] <Braven> brendand: I added the our server to our prod deployment network and everything is working now.


[00:03] <aguitel> how install flash ?
[00:03] <penguin42> install the flashplugin-installer package
[00:03] <bjsnider> enable parter repo, install adobe-flashplugin
[00:04] <penguin42> oh, interesting - when did that change?
[00:04] <bjsnider> oneiric
[00:05] <penguin42> oh nice
[00:06] <Logan_> Er, no.
[00:06] <Logan_> It's still flashplugin-installer.
[00:06] <Logan_> Oh, that's multiverse.
[00:07] <FernandoMiguel> nity nite
[00:07] <astraljava> $ apt-cache policy adobe-flashplugin -- Candidate: <IP_ADDRESS>-0precise1 whereas $ apt-cache policy flashplugin-installer -- Candidate: <IP_ADDRESS>ubuntu3
[00:07] <astraljava> What's the difference?
[00:07] <Logan_> O
[00:07] <Logan_> *I've always used flashplugin-installer.
[00:08] <bjsnider> flashplugin-installer is not necessary, is the difference
[00:08] <FernandoMiguel> didn't adobe kill flash for linux?
[00:08] <Logan_> But flashplugin-installer doesn't require the enabling of the partner repository, bjsnider.
[00:08] <bjsnider> yes
[00:08] <jtaylor> in 5 years
[00:09] <bjsnider> and that will be the last version available
[00:09] <FernandoMiguel> in 5 years we could all be gone
[00:09] <FernandoMiguel> that's a life time in PC Era
[00:09] <penguin42> ...lets see if youtube works reliably with html video by then
[00:09] <FernandoMiguel> LMAO
[00:09] <FernandoMiguel> it won't
[00:09] <Logan_> I'm not counting on it.
[00:09] <penguin42> FernandoMiguel: asteroids, mayans, rising sea level, flash not working....
[00:10] <FernandoMiguel> _ _ ^ ^
[00:10] <FernandoMiguel> anyways
[00:10] <FernandoMiguel> bed time
[00:10] <FernandoMiguel> I'm up in 6h
[00:10]  * penguin42 has one more day of freedom before back to work
[00:11] <FernandoMiguel> tomorrow includes cloning 40 Ubuntu machines, testing LTE dongles and preping 20 new emploees
[00:11] <FernandoMiguel> fun fun fun
[00:11] <FernandoMiguel> ohh
[00:11] <FernandoMiguel> and I still haven't found a good network bw mesure indicator
[00:12] <FernandoMiguel> :(
[00:12] <FernandoMiguel> I miss netapplet from gnome-pannels
[00:12] <FernandoMiguel> one more stupid question
[00:12] <pepee> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-input-synaptics/+bug/962704
[00:12] <FernandoMiguel> how do I setup SKEL to include gconf changes?
[00:12] <pepee> please, fix it :(
[00:12] <FernandoMiguel> I want to add Skype to Unity-panel blacklist
[00:13] <FernandoMiguel> pepee: try #ubuntu-x on a week day
[00:13] <penguin42> FernandoMiguel: Ah get the new employees to clone their machines
[00:13] <bjsnider> you seem to know already
[00:13] <FernandoMiguel> and be super sweet with them
[00:13] <bjsnider> just edit the files in skel
[00:13] <pepee> FernandoMiguel, "bw mesure indicator"   gkrellm
[00:13] <FernandoMiguel> bjsnider: but I don't see nothing there :\
[00:13] <FernandoMiguel> penguin42: hummmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
[00:13] <bjsnider> there's nothing in skel?
[00:13] <FernandoMiguel> pepee: that's not Unity aware
[00:13] <pepee> FernandoMiguel, what is #ubuntu-x ?
[00:13]  * FernandoMiguel looks again
[00:14] <FernandoMiguel> bjsnider: nothing about gconf that is
[00:14] <bjsnider> ubuntu-x is the xorg ubuntu channel
[00:14] <pepee> ahh k
[00:14] <pepee> thanks bjsnider FernandoMiguel
[00:14] <Logan_> FernandoMiguel: Like this? http://i1-news.softpedia-static.com/images/extra/LINUX/large/unityindicators-large_003.jpg
[00:15] <FernandoMiguel> no Logan_
[00:15] <FernandoMiguel> that one I have
[00:15] <FernandoMiguel> I'll keep looking!
[00:16] <FernandoMiguel> im not happy till I feel my entire top unity pannel
[00:16] <FernandoMiguel> and I still have to see if I can get global-menu to work on a while list only
[00:16] <FernandoMiguel> most apps it's just stupid! and it breaks the mouse over :(
[00:17] <kandinski> hi
[00:33] <ttl-> networking stops working after install
[00:34] <ttl-> on 12.04 AMD64 daily build
[00:35] <ttl-> both wired and wireless stops working
[00:42] <ttl-> here is my syslog: http://paste.ubuntu.com/921108/
[00:51] <bucky> does anyone else have skipping video on youtube, I think it has to do with the ondemand daemon
[00:55] <physically_fit> so this afternoon i upgraded my laptop too. and everything is working fine, in general, and the most important for me: the dual monitor support :)
[00:58] <physically_fit> the only one thing is the behavior of the launcher (left panel). it's different in this version, as i said before, like i need to push the cursor much faster to make it appear.
[00:59] <Daekdroom> It's a feature.
[00:59] <physically_fit> it's the same in Unity standard and Unity 2D.
[00:59] <Daekdroom> To avoid people mistakenly opening the Launcher when the cursor is near the left edge.
[01:00] <physically_fit> Daekdroom, but you never move the cursor near that edge, unless you want to reveal the launcher.
[01:00] <Daekdroom> Wrong
[01:00] <Daekdroom> One might move the cursor there to use whatever is in a maximized window.
[01:00] <physically_fit> Daekdroom, i only have that problem when I want to press the left arrow in my browser.
[01:01] <physically_fit> Daekdroom, it's taking me quite a lot of time to get used to it.
[01:11] <physically_fit> oh, and i forgot to say that i had to purge/reinstall flash too, just like in my desktop PC.
[01:29] <DropsOfSerenity> hey guys there is a lag when dragging items because the unity panel tries to be context sensitive, for example, try dragging a link in firefox to your bookmark bar, you won't be able to immediately because unity sidebar has to pop up and that takes about 1 second for it to understand the context, is this a known bug?
[01:31] <DropsOfSerenity> note: this seems to work as intended with dragging pictures from nautilus to gimp
[01:32] <DropsOfSerenity> but is slower when dragging images from the web browser to gimp
[01:33] <spacebug-> hum
[01:34] <spacebug-> not sure if I have that problem
[01:36] <spacebug-> pretty fast here
[01:36] <DropsOfSerenity> try going to a website
[01:36] <spacebug-> images from firefox to gimp is like almost instant
[01:36] <DropsOfSerenity> in firefox
[01:36] <DropsOfSerenity> and dragging the url
[01:36] <DropsOfSerenity> to ur bookmark bar
[01:36] <spacebug-> though my unitypanel is always visiable
[01:36] <DropsOfSerenity> try doing it quickly, also hmmm I will test with the always visible setting
[01:37] <DropsOfSerenity> yea same thing with always visible
[01:37] <DropsOfSerenity> slight lag
[01:38] <spacebug-> I could maybe record it but I guess the desktoprecoding itself would be more laggy ;)
[01:38] <DropsOfSerenity> hmm it's defintely less so with always showing the unity bar though
[01:39] <DropsOfSerenity> maybe not the biggest deal, but having it not even lag at all would be a nice boost in consistency and feeling in the unity desktop
[01:39] <spacebug-> same speed here for me
[01:39] <DropsOfSerenity> hmm strange
[01:39] <DropsOfSerenity> nvidia or ati?
[01:39] <spacebug-> nvidia
[01:40] <DropsOfSerenity> same
[01:40] <DropsOfSerenity> it only seems to be from doing things in firefox
[01:40] <DropsOfSerenity> dragging images from my filesystem to gimp is seamless
[01:41] <DropsOfSerenity> it seems to be the fade that's causing it
[01:42] <spacebug-> hum
[01:42] <spacebug-> I did a recordning now.. see how that went
[01:43] <DropsOfSerenity> i'm also running on a very beefy machine, so I expect no lag at all
[01:43] <DropsOfSerenity> gtx260 graphics card, core i3 HT 3.3 GHz processors
[01:44] <spacebug-> ok
[01:45] <bandit5432> indicator any way to show date and time?
[01:46] <bandit5432> classic-gnome
[01:47] <spacebug-> DropsOfSerenity: http://spacebug.se/filer/out.ogv check that out. I have a big/hi-res monitor though
[01:47] <spacebug-> DropsOfSerenity: download it first, dont look from browser ;)
[01:48] <spacebug-> bandit5432: is does by default?
[01:48] <DropsOfSerenity> hmm
[01:48] <spacebug-> bandit5432: no indicator at all?
[01:48] <DropsOfSerenity> spacebug-, you get a slight lag too
[01:48] <bandit5432> no i have the indicator and the time but i want the date to show with the time and not always have to click on it
[01:49] <bandit5432> i thought i had a fix saved but i cant find it
[01:49] <spacebug-> DropsOfSerenity: You mean on the bookmark thing? I think that is more internally in firefox and has nothing do to with unity. Get the same in unity-2d
[01:50] <spacebug-> bandit5432: click the indocator, press time and date settings, in the clock tab chose what you cant to se
[01:50] <spacebug-> want to se*
[01:50] <DropsOfSerenity> For example when you drag to the bookmark bar, the reason it lags is because the unity bar dims
[01:50] <DropsOfSerenity> at about 12 seconds
[01:50] <DropsOfSerenity> in the video
[01:51] <DropsOfSerenity> you can see the slight mouse lag
[01:51] <DropsOfSerenity> actually
[01:51] <DropsOfSerenity> 18 seconds
[01:52] <spacebug-> DropsOfSerenity: you dont get that when dragging to gimp right? and that also dims unity bar
[01:52] <DropsOfSerenity> yes it's the same as me though
[01:52] <DropsOfSerenity> it causes lag sometimes
[01:52] <DropsOfSerenity> but not other times
[01:52] <DropsOfSerenity> 18 seconds isn't within your bookmarks bar, it's while your dragging that link
[01:52] <DropsOfSerenity> and it exhibits that jumpy lag
[01:53] <DropsOfSerenity> also I love your resolution is that 2650?
[01:53] <spacebug-> 2560x1600 yes
[01:53] <DropsOfSerenity> but you see what i'm talking about right?
[01:54] <DropsOfSerenity> 18 seconds exactly
[01:54] <bandit5432> spacebug-,  added the clock to the panel i am not going to be able to use indicator all to do what i want am i?
[01:55] <bandit5432> taps trism  on the shoulder lightly
[01:56] <spacebug-> DropsOfSerenity: yes now I get you
[01:58] <spacebug-> DropsOfSerenity: question is if there is a bug and if then in where? firefox or unity or somehting else
[01:58] <DropsOfSerenity> yeah I'm not sure where it comes from, my hunch is it's the unity dock fading, something to do with that
[01:59] <spacebug-> DropsOfSerenity: have you gnome-fallback installed as well? could maybe test if the problem is there also
[01:59] <DropsOfSerenity> I don't unfortunately.
[01:59] <spacebug-> I have but don't want to logout and close all programs right now
[01:59] <spacebug-> gonna try it now in a virtualbox machine but might not be the same as running on host
[02:00] <DropsOfSerenity> if it is worse than it shows that it's dependant on processing power or graphics power
[02:00] <DropsOfSerenity> which means they are doing something wrong for a simple fade
[02:00] <bandit5432> virtualmachine it
[02:01] <DropsOfSerenity> apart from that and turning off apport, unity 12.04 has been a wonderful experience, I've been on it for weeks now and haven't felt the need to change.
[02:02] <spacebug-> DropsOfSerenity: it does not seem to happen in gnome-fallback (no effects) in a virtualmachine
[02:02] <DropsOfSerenity> hmm so yeah it's gotta be the unity fade
[02:02] <DropsOfSerenity> these little consistency and flow things will REALLY help improve the user experience, even if users don't notice them explicitly their brain does, something just doesn't feel quiet right.
[02:03] <DropsOfSerenity> i'll try to see if it's been reported to bugtracker
[02:05] <trism> bandit5432: yes?
[02:05] <DropsOfSerenity> spacebug-, https://bugs.launchpad.net/unity/+bug/772445
[02:08] <spacebug-> DropsOfSerenity: I pressed it affects me and wrote a comment that it is still there in 12.04 beta2
[02:09] <DropsOfSerenity> spacebug-, I will do the same, thanks.
[02:11] <spacebug-> yw
[02:12] <DropsOfSerenity> unity has really been wonderful though, especially 12.04, I couldn't use the 11.04 and 11.10 releases.
[02:16] <spacebug-> yeah I like it more and more also
[02:19] <bandit5432> sorry i am away
[02:20] <bandit5432> trism, quick question can you change the indicator to show the date and time?
[02:20] <bandit5432> indicator-applet-complete that is
[02:21] <bandit5432> away again will read back through when i get back'
[02:25] <trism> bandit-away: gsettings set com.canonical.indicator.datetime show-date true; In unity you can also use the Time & Date Settings but it seems that won't load in gnome classic
[02:42] <bjsnider> is anybody here used to using gecko-mediaplayer?
[02:42] <bjsnider> if so, can you test it?
[02:56] <bandit-away> trism, you are awesome thankyou so much!!!
[02:57] <bandit-away> is there a wiki somewhere with all the gsettings that i can look up so i dont have to keep bothering you?
[02:57] <jtrucks> so far beta2 server has been great.
[03:01] <trism> bandit5432: all of the schemas are in /usr/share/glib-2.0/schemas or you can install dconf-tools and browse through them with dconf-editor
[03:02] <bandit5432> thanks i will start looking around
[03:04] <bandit5432> dconf has come a long way since 11.10 i thought it only allowed you to read the settings in 11.10 not change anything
[03:08] <bandit5432> trism, is the showing notify-osd notification on scroll volume-change somthing new or does it only work with unity?
[03:10] <trism> bandit5432: it will work in gnome classic if you have notify-osd installed and notification-daemon not, indicator-sound checks to see if notify-osd is running and otherwise doesn't show notifications (I imagine because only notify-osd implements the canonical private volume hints)
[03:10] <bandit5432> hmm interesting
[03:10] <bandit5432> will have to look into that
[03:12] <bandit5432> i have the notify-osd installed but its not working will have to google that
[03:12] <trism> bandit5432: do you have notification-daemon installed too?
[03:12] <bandit5432> no
[03:12] <bandit5432> but i don have libnotify installed
[03:13] <bandit5432> cant remove that though
[03:13] <trism> bandit5432: hmm odd that it isn't working, it works here
[03:13] <trism> bandit5432: libnotify is the library the apps use to send notifications, so you don't want to remove that
[03:13] <bandit5432> i changed something somewhere i am sure that is messing it
[03:14] <bandit5432> i break linux less than windows but i can still give it a good try
[03:14] <trism> bandit5432: do notifications work at all?
[03:14] <bandit5432> printing was
[03:14] <bandit5432> let me test downloading
[03:15] <bandit5432> does not appear to be
[03:15] <trism> bandit5432: is notify-osd running?
[03:16] <bandit5432> looks like it when i run ryhtmbox it shows i probably disabled something somewhere
[03:16] <bandit5432> no its not running
[03:17] <trism> bandit5432: how about notification-daemon
[03:18] <bandit5432> notification-daemon is not installed but i will look any way
[03:18] <trism> bandit5432: if the notifications have a little X in the corner then it is notification-daemon not notify-osd
[03:19] <trism> bandit5432: if not then I'm not sure what is wrong
[03:19] <bandit5432> i will look into it
[03:19] <bandit5432> i probaly disabled osd in a previous release and now i need it
[03:20] <bandit5432> when i use the keyboard shortcut to change the volume i get a big sound icon on the screen that shows the volume
[03:26] <trism> bandit5432: that is from gnome-settings-daemon I believe, it doesn't show up when notify-osd is running
[03:27] <seekerFactory> krunner crashing frequently disabling desktop effects. (kubuntu 12.04 beta, kde 4.8.2, kernel 3.0.0-16-generic).
[03:33] <bandit5432> hmm notify-send test works
[03:36] <bandit5432> really odd
[05:10] <frybye> hi - after yesterdays update I get an "error: out of partition" fault report - but then can press any key and the system boots.. how to fix?
[05:22] <ActionParsnip> frybye: have you fsck'd the partition?
[05:35] <frybye> re: have used boot-repair but matter does not seem really ok with long boot sequence please take a look at paste.ubuntu.com/921315 and let me hear your comments/suggestions?
[05:36] <frybye> I will be back in a few mins - see ya
[05:47] <frybye> re: my boot problems fixed with boot-repair on seccond attempt - using recommended auto-repair...
[05:55] <ActionParsnip> sweet
[05:57] <frybye> ActionParsnip: others have submitted multiple bug reports about this "error: out of partition" problem since update yesterday.. I see no need to add yet another..
[05:57] <ActionParsnip> ahhh, I suggest you add and say "me too" etc
[05:58] <frybye> if you are curious here is the report from the boot-repair device paste.ubuntu.com/921330
[05:59] <frybye> ActionParsnip: there are a few variations on the bug - I dont really know enough to sort out how/which and details of such..
[06:00] <frybye> ActionParsnip: one of my underlying problems is that there seems to be zombie traces of an old win7 installation on a second harddisk that I use despite have reformatted it - perhaps you can see in the paste....
[06:01] <ActionParsnip> frybye: maybe its a factor, I don't dual boot so not sure dude
[06:01] <frybye> ok - have a nice one...
[06:03] <snadge> baked beans, cheese, chilli tuna.. doritos burn chips
[06:03] <snadge> vodka, lemon lime bitters ;)
[06:08] <frybye> snadge: sounds good - goes well with 12.04 I am sure...
[06:09] <snadge> they're complimentary.. yes
[06:13] <sss> is flash broken in 12.04 beta?
[06:14] <sss> my flash is not working in firefox
[06:14] <sss> its the same in chrome as well
[06:14] <ActionParsnip> sss: no issues here
[06:15] <ActionParsnip> sss: can you give a pastebin of:   lsb_release -a; uname -a; dpkg -l | egrep 'flash|gnash|swf|spark'
[06:15] <sss> I get a media player icon
[06:16] <sss> http://pastebin.com/W9fHExz9
[06:17] <ActionParsnip> sss: uninstall flashplugin-installer then enable the partner repo and install adobe-flashplugin
[06:26] <sss> the instalation of adobe-flashplugin didnt help :(
[06:27] <sss> should i need to restart my box... I did a browser restart.
[07:17] <ROYAL> hello
[07:17] <ROYAL> I have an audio issue
[07:18] <ROYAL> Static comes out (as well as normal audio) the static is very loud
[07:18] <ROYAL> I use HDA-Analyzer to must the problematic input jack that is not being used
[07:18] <ROYAL> But it resets my settings upon each reboot
[07:20] <ROYAL> Hello
[07:21] <ROYAL> above typo: I use HDA-Analyzer to must the problematic input jack that is not being used
[07:21] <ROYAL> I use HDA-Analyzer to MUTE the problematic input jack that is not being used*
[07:23] <robin0800> ROYAL: try alsamixer in a terminal m = mute
[07:25] <ROYAL> I have alsa information:
[07:25] <ROYAL> I use HDA-Analyzer to must the problematic input jack that is not being used
[07:25] <ROYAL> ugh, sorry for the last message
[07:25] <ROYAL> Your ALSA information is located at http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=74a57bf6f2248e37396b650d9eededce10998f79
[07:26] <ROYAL> there we go! that wasnt copied to my clipboard the first time!
[07:27] <ActionParsnip> Chrisk: howdy
[07:27] <Chrisk> :P hello
[07:27] <ROYAL> Also, I want to include that what I must mute is: Node[0x0c] AUD_MIX
[07:27] <ROYAL> the port in that spot i mute is:
[07:27] <ROYAL> VAL[2]
[07:27] <ROYAL> and
[07:28] <dan____> window preview compiz plugin is bugged in 12.04, window preview "hangs" sometimes
[07:28] <ROYAL> VAL[3]
[07:28] <ActionParsnip> Chrisk: all you gotta do is extract the archive and copy it to /usr/lib/jvm/
[07:28] <Chrisk> i want the plugins for firefox too
[07:28] <ActionParsnip> Chrisk: we'll get there, be patient
[07:28] <bouma> is precise working well with xen ?
[07:28] <ActionParsnip> Chrisk: then run:     sudo update-alternatives --install /usr/bin/java java /usr/lib/jvm/jre1.7.0_03/bin/java 81
[07:29] <Chrisk> give me a second to get java :)
[07:29] <ActionParsnip> Chrisk: then run:    sudo update-alternatives --config java
[07:29] <ROYAL> Hey, I don't know how this works, Must I wait my turn?
[07:30] <Chrisk> then run:     sudo update-alternatives --install /usr/bin/java java /usr/lib/jvm/jre1.7.0_03/bin/java 81  WHAT IS THAT  81 ?
[07:30] <ActionParsnip> Chrisk: then run:  mkdir ~/.mozilla/plugins; cd ~/.mozilla/plugins; ln -s /usr/lib/jvm/jre1.7.0_03/lib/i386/libnpjp2.so .
[07:30] <ActionParsnip> Chrisk: makes it the bottom-most value, no idea why, it just makes it work
[07:30] <robin0800> ROYAL: no but use a name use the tab key to complete
[07:31] <Chrisk> SO firefox has to be closed..
[07:31] <ActionParsnip> Chrisk: that's all you need, download, extract and put in the folder then those 3 commands.
[07:31] <ROYAL> @robin0800 What?
[07:31] <Chrisk> OK thank you one more thing
[07:32] <Chrisk> i install a package from a guide on how to install java
[07:32] <ActionParsnip> Chrisk: no, you can close it after you have finished, then rerun to load the new plugin
[07:32] <ActionParsnip> Chrisk: java isn't packaged due to license
[07:32] <robin0800> ROYAL: this is irc not twitter no @ here please
[07:32] <Chrisk> yeah unfortunately.
[07:33] <ActionParsnip> Chrisk: it's oracle, so yeah....
[07:33] <ROYAL> Ok, I was trying to point the message to you. I did not understand what you meant.
[07:33] <Chrisk> Dude The 12.04 is too buggy (anyway still in beta :P)
[07:34] <robin0800> ROYAL: names in irc are highlighted automatically
[07:34] <frybye> Chrisk: update yesterday shure did my grub2 in well and truely...
[07:35] <ROYAL> Robin0800, What did you mean about pressing the "tab key"?
[07:35] <bluefrog> it auto complete names
[07:35] <robin0800> ROYAL: type first fw
[07:35] <Chrisk> Is there anyway to force a package to be removed? i have tried a command but it does nothing
[07:35] <Chrisk> normal uninstall does nothing too. so both are not working.
[07:35] <robin0800> ROYAL: type first few letters then tab key
[07:36] <ROYAL> robin0800:  very cool.
[07:38] <ROYAL> robin0800: Did you see my alsamixer information?
[07:39] <chrisK2> Thanx for the help it works :)
[07:43] <ROYAL> Have I been forgotten?
[07:43] <Ian_Corne> Ues
[07:43] <ROYAL> lol
[07:46] <ROYAL> *sigh*
[08:01] <robin0800> ROYAL: no I'm at work
[08:11] <leoquant> !nvidia
[08:11] <leoquant> !dnsmasq
[08:19] <dan____> lightdm seems to not use the background set in /etc/lightdm/unity-greeter.conf
[08:19] <dan____> instead using ubuntu default thingie
[08:24] <ActionParsnip> dan____: I thought it now uses the background image of the user you choose?
[08:24] <ActionParsnip> http://joesteiger.com/2012/01/19/lightdms-unity-greeter-gets-user-specific-wallpaper-bullets-dot-removal-and-more-in-ubuntu-12-04/
[08:25] <dan____> well
[08:25] <dan____> my user has encrypted home dir
[08:26] <dan____> and since wallpaper is stored in homedir (well link to it)
[08:26] <dan____> it cant read my wallpaper and uses default one despite greeter.conf points to another
[08:27] <ActionParsnip> dan____: ah that may be a thing (not something I've used tbh)
[08:27] <ROYAL> my issue is posted here:
[08:27] <ROYAL> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1953302&page=2
[08:31] <dan____> no manpage for lightdm
[08:31] <dan____> no docs anywhere to find
[08:31] <dan____> so no idea how to disable taht behaviour
[08:43] <trijntje> wont there be a RC released after beta2, I dont see it on the ReleaseSchedule?
[08:53] <dan___> installing lighdm-gtk-greeter and removing it leaves lighdm in a non working state, falling back to console
[08:54] <dan___> what should i file a bug report gainst in that case?
[09:37] <xylo> hi folks.  i'm using a 64 bit ubuntu 12.04 and was trying to install acroread.  however, the package cannot be installed since the dependent package libogg0:i386 conflicts with libogg0.  is this a bug?  what can i do?  i cannot remove libogg0.  too many package depend on it.
[10:08] <mat619> hey there. just installed xubuntu 12.04 beta 2 on my girlfriend's laptop, and its intel wireless pro 2200BG can't connect to anything. iwconfig shows a random string as SSID. very strange. is that already a known problem?
[10:08] <mat619> tried to find a related bug on launchpad but couldn't find one.
[10:10] <alkisg> Is there an ubuntu-12.04-beta2-desktop-i386.iso? Will there be one for the final release?
[11:43] <fishcooker> many server build on 10.04 .. will upgrade be smooth to this release?
[11:45] <penguin42> fishcooker: Well, there's only one way to find out!
[11:47] <snadge> nope.. it will explode and catch fire.. you will curse ubuntu and canonical.. and install centos
[11:48] <snadge> :P
[11:48] <penguin42> snadge: And as long as the balance of the number of people upgrading from Centos 5-X6 hit the same problem the world is in balance
[11:49] <snadge> i havnt had that much to do with EL.. i use centos at work for a few things
[11:49] <snadge> but i wouldn't even try to update from 5 to 6.. thats a re-install.. copy over and reconfigure job
[11:49] <snadge> but since its supported until 2017 or something stupid like that.. *shrugs* ;)
[11:51] <snadge> but anyway thats slightly ot hehe
[11:52] <jpds> fishcooker: LTS-to-LTS upgrade is fully supported.
[11:53] <jtaylor> only within main
[11:53] <jtaylor> the rest is best-effort
[11:56] <snadge> lts is also only 2 years apart
[11:56] <snadge> still.. impressive
[12:02] <jetsaredim> have there been any reported issues with Chrome beta and 12.04?
[12:03] <jetsaredim> I have desktop notifications turned on in Gmail and I've been getting this white rectangle showing up in the upper right hand corner of my screen
[12:04] <jetsaredim> now, nearly all of my left screen (dual monitors) has been taken up by a big white box
[12:04] <jetsaredim> can't see any of the programs running under that area
[12:05] <jetsaredim> i even killed the browser since I thought it might be related to that
[12:05] <jetsaredim> but no effect
[12:07] <frybye> jetsaredim: try not to hit enter so often - would make your text easier to read...
[12:16] <fishcooker> jpds that's quite relieve
[12:17] <krnekhelesh> jetsaredim: that's a know bug and has been fixed in Unity 5.10
[12:17] <krnekhelesh> jetsaredim: Unity 5.10 should land in another 3-4 days
[12:18] <jetsaredim> krnekhelesh: ah ok
[12:18] <jetsaredim> so just keep killing compiz for now?
[12:18] <krnekhelesh> jetsaredim: I guess...or try using Firefox for now...I do not face this issue but read a bug report about it
[12:19] <aguitel> i have gnome+kde in 12.04,how remove gnome ?
[12:30] <jetsaredim> I guess killing compiz isn't as good an option for a workaround as I thought
[12:33] <Zoffix_> Hey. Has anyone managed to get samba file sharing to work? I'm on KDE, and I think I installed everything I need, but every time I change user access permissions, they don't seem to remain there (if I reopen the "Share" tab, all users have no permissions, as if I didn't change anything)
[12:35] <airtonix> lots of people have "managed to get samba working"
[12:36] <airtonix> it's not like it's some monumentally arduos task
[12:36] <Zoffix_> Thanks, dick.
[12:38] <astraljava> Ok folks, please remember the CoC and act accordingly.
[12:39] <aguitel> i have gnome+kde in 12.04,how remove gnome ?
[12:39] <astraljava> Zoffix_: Have you looked at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Samba, there are plenty of instructions on how to tweak the installation further.
[12:40] <penguin42> aguitel: The normal trick is to find a library most Gnome apps use and remove that
[12:40] <penguin42> aguitel: The tricky bit is that you don't want to break say firefox or chrome if you use those
[12:40] <aguitel> penguin42, ok
[12:41] <penguin42> aguitel: You could try libgnomeui-0 - might take a few extra things with it :-)
[12:42] <bouma> is xen with pci pass through working in precise?
[12:43] <penguin42> some one was trying to get that working the other day on here, he wasn't having much luck
[12:43] <Zoffix_> astraljava, I seem to be missing some component for all the tuts I tried so far. One mentions kdesudo kcmshell4 sambaconf, but kcmshell4 tells me it doesn't have sambaconf module. The one you linked asks to launch kcontrol, but my system tells me there's no such thing as  kcontrol
[12:43] <aguitel> penguin42, try what about this file?
[12:43] <penguin42> aguitel: Remove it - it'll take most of gnome out
[12:43] <penguin42> aguitel: Becareful, it might take one or two other things out as well :-)
[12:43] <aguitel> penguin42, a ok
[12:46] <Zoffix_> Hm, I tried the gnome tool, and it told me: invoke-rc.d: unknown initscript, /etc/init.d/samba not found.
[12:48] <aguitel> is there anyway to install amsn ?
[12:48] <astraljava> Zoffix_: /etc/init.d/samba4 comes in samba4 package. What does `apt-cache policy samba4` tell you?
[12:50] <Zoffix_> astraljava, not installed.. I guess that's why. When I clicked the "install samba" button on the share tab, it installed something, and I see "samba" package installed, but not samba4.
[12:50]  * Zoffix_ installs samba4
[12:50] <Zoffix_> Tough nuts: E: samba4: subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 1
[12:50] <penguin42> Zoffix_: Any more text before that - it should tell you what broke
[12:51] <Zoffix_> penguin42, yeah, I just read that. Tells me I need to delete /etc/samba/smb.conf, gonna do that and try again
[12:52] <penguin42> Zoffix_: Just move it out of the way - you might want to look at it
[12:53] <Zoffix_> penguin42, well, it's too late for that, but it's still complaining. Here's the full output from synaptic after the error: http://pastebin.com/U6aVTVwD
[12:54] <penguin42> Zoffix_: And you got that even after removing the smb.conf?
[12:54] <Zoffix_> Yeah
[12:54] <penguin42> hmph
[12:56] <penguin42> Zoffix_: it looks like you have bug 832465
[12:57] <penguin42> Zoffix_: Comment \12 has a workaround - might be worth trying, even if it's a bit nasty
[13:06] <aguitel> is there anyway to install amsn ?
[13:08] <jbicha> aguitel: no, use a different chat client http://packages.qa.debian.org/a/amsn/news/20120109T101234Z.html
[13:08] <Zoffix_> penguin42, hm.. that did the trick as far as installing samba4 goes, but now even if I do ``sudo /etc/init.d/samba4 restart`` it tells me it started fine, but when I try to connect it tells me server timed out, as if nothing were running there :|
[13:08] <penguin42> Well, that's one step closer :-)
[13:10] <Zoffix_> Well, before I *could* connect, it just didn't like my password lol :)
[13:14] <penguin42> Zoffix_: There is probably now  a /var/log/smb or /var/log/samba or something to see why
[13:15] <Zoffix_> Ah. Thanks. I'll check those out to see what's what.
[13:15]  * Zoffix_ lols.. just ran `rm *` in ~/
[13:15] <Zoffix_> Good thing that wasn't a -fr :)
[13:33] <lun4tic> hi, does anyone use the gnome-session-fallback? I have two main problems with it. first one is that the menu fonts on the top left are too dark and the second one is that I can add apps starters to the top panel by drag&drop but there seems to be no easy way to remove them
[13:38] <BluesKaj> hey all
[13:45] <Zoffix_> Man, I think this is the longest I've been messing around with something in linux without getting it to work >_<
[13:46] <lun4tic> Zoffix_: whats wrong?
[13:47] <BluesKaj> ok Zoffix_ I'll bite, what is it ?
[13:47] <Zoffix_> Can't get samba server to work. I want to share a folder on my Ubuntu box. I can connect to it, but it just won't log me in. The user seems to be setup, but still no go :S
[13:48] <Zoffix_> In the /var/log/samba/samba.log I see this whenever I try to login:  [2012/04/09 09:48:09.994756,  0] smbd/service.c:858(make_connection_snum)        make_connection: connection to BDrive denied due to security descriptor.
[13:49] <lun4tic> from a windows machine or from another ubuntu box?
[13:49] <BluesKaj> you're connecting to an ubuntu pc , from what ?
[13:50] <lun4tic> cause windows 7 doesnt have real usermanagement activated by default.
[13:50] <Zoffix_> I want to connect from Windows box, but now I'm trying to get it working at least from localhost. So right now I'm connecting by typing this in Dolphin<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[13:50] <Zoffix_> I get the pass prompt, but it doesn't let me in.
[13:53] <BluesKaj> Zoffix_, can you connect from ubuntu to windows ... I need to get this straight
[13:53] <Zoffix_> Bluefoxicy, yeah, I can browse windows shares from Ubuntu
[13:53] <Zoffix_> Hm. Just tried something else: I can browse all the folders, except for that BDrive... I'm guessing something's wrong with it.
[13:54] <lun4tic> BDrive = Blueray Disc??
[13:54] <lun4tic> or just the share name?
[13:54] <BluesKaj> Zoffix_, dunno about W7 to linux ..I haven't been successful , seems to be a one way street for me too .
[13:55] <Zoffix_> lun4tic, just the share name.
[13:55] <lun4tic> did you just use the GUI or did you write your smb.conf manually?
[13:57] <Zoffix_> I'm using gadmin-samba GUI tool.
[13:57] <Zoffix_> I can access the /home/ share, and I see it has %U flag on it in the "Access Allowed", but the one I created doesn't have anything there. I'm trying to figure out how to add something to it.
[14:08] <BluesKaj> Zoffix_, from my recollection , there several arcane share permission levels in W7 that are required before total access is available to and from windows and linux
[14:09] <Zoffix_> I'm not using W7, just XP...
[14:09] <Zoffix_> And I think I got it working somehow.. Testing now if there's any password protection or not.
[14:09] <BluesKaj> XP is much more network /linux friendly
[14:11] <Zoffix_> It works!
[14:12] <Zoffix_> in smb.conf I edited the dir that was working (/homes/) and changed its path to the folder I wanted to share.
[14:12] <Zoffix_> Not perfect setup, but it's almost lunch time!
[14:33] <spaceneedle> It takes an excessive amount of time to login to  gnome classic.
[14:43] <atpa8a> hmm
[14:43] <atpa8a> any word about when the next kernel package going to be "released"?
[14:43] <physically_fit> does anyone know how to remove the drums sound when i login. in my startup apps there's no Gnome Login Sound to disable (apparent solution).
[14:47] <BluesKaj> physically_fit, what about 'all sounds' , is there an option for that on unity/gnome ?
[14:48] <BluesKaj> <---kubuntu here
[14:49] <gizero> During install I chose custom partitioning. When creating a partition the textfield for the size was not editable, instead one has to use + - buttons to change the size megabyte for megabyte. Is that a temporary solution for some problem, or is it meant to be that way? It takes ages to change size that way; I have to hold down the - sign several minutes to get to the small partition size I wanted.
[14:50] <gizero> It hasn't been that way for all the Ubuntu versions I've tried previously.
[14:50] <physically_fit> BluesKaj, yeah, i disabled that in sound Effects. i was getting a "pop" whenever i increased/decreased my speakers volume, solved that but i'm still hearing the drums.
[14:51] <physically_fit> BluesKaj, i found a solution that says to remove the sound file, but i don't want to do that.
[14:55] <FrozenMind> physically_fit: thought about maybe changing the sound file to one with no sound at all or something more tolerable?
[14:56] <physically_fit> FrozenMind, maybe i'll rename it, i dunno.
[14:59] <FrozenMind> physically_fit: that is how i used to do it for windows... or freaking out people by removing the sound file and then jacking up the volume and messing with their IE controls that would give them a video when loaded to any website :P:P so the logic might apply here :)
[15:02] <NateW> Hmm.. Filed a bugreport that has to do with Nvidia + Xorg segfault. It got flagged as incomplete with high priority and I was asked by Bryce Harrington for a backtrace. Added it and its almost been 1 week and it's still marked incomplete. I know the canonical guys have a ton of stuff on their plate, but is it usually this long to get the status changed?
[15:11] <BluesKaj> physically_fit, personally i just turn off all sounds , most of them are annoying anyway , visual notications are enough for me.
[15:15] <penguin42> oh, it would have been useful if natew had told us the bug number
[15:36] <atrus> is wine not installable under precise 64 bit? wine depends on wine1.4. so far, this is all in universe. then wine1.4 depends on wine1.4-i386, which isn't available....
[15:36] <penguin42> atrus: You should be able to install the 32bit packages
[15:37] <atrus> penguin42: which ones, and how?
[15:37] <atrus> so far i'm just trying to use apt-get, which is failing miserably :/
[15:37] <penguin42> atrus: What happens if you install wine1.4:i386
[15:38] <penguin42> (I don't use wine, but that's a general thing that on precise you can install most 32bit packages on 64bit system)
[15:38] <atrus> E: Unable to locate package wine1.4:i386
[15:38] <atrus> i'd rather not install a 32 bit version if a 64 bit version is supposed to work...
[15:38] <atrus> it seems like a package just shouldn't exist in ubuntu (even in universe) if its dependancies aren't in ubuntu anywhere...
[15:40] <atrus> but it seems like something that basic (if it were the case) would be filed as a bug already.
[15:40] <atrus> so i'm wondering if i'm just missing something obvious.
[15:41] <penguin42> atrus: Upgrade or new install?
[15:43] <atrus> upgrade
[15:43] <atrus> but wine isn't installed currently.
[15:46] <LoRez> what's the InRelease file for and why is it not available on archive.ubuntu.com for precise?
[15:51] <Pici> LoRez: Do you see an error regarding that file?
[15:54] <jaime> Hey all
[15:56] <LoRez> Pici: yeah.  sorta.  apt is bitching that it can't find Release.gpg, but approx knows better and it's only 404ing on the InRelease file
[15:56] <jaime> I have the simple and ordinary problem on connecting on wireless. It's not giving me any access points. Any solutions?
[15:57] <LoRez> apt is version 0.8.16~exp12ubuntu7
[15:58] <LoRez> actually, it's aptitude 0.6.6-1ubuntu1 whining
[15:59] <jaime> Anyone?
[15:59] <LoRez> says it can't connect, when it clearly can and does get 404's for those files
[16:00] <topyli> jaime: there is nothing 'simple and ordinary' about most wireless problems. either it works or the problems are subtle and annoying :)
[16:01] <Pici> LoRez: Have you tried using a different mirror? or is this one of the main *.ubuntu.com mirrors?
[16:01] <LoRez> Pici: approx: http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/precise/InRelease: not found
[16:02] <jaime> Simple and ordinary as in it's my cliche problem everytime I get a new distro lol
[16:03] <topyli> oh so you have fixed it many times before. that's a good sign :)
[16:03] <neco> is there any way like a pth to solve the iommu problem in kernel 3.2
[16:03] <neco> path*
[16:04] <neco> ?
[16:04] <jaime> No matter how many times I fix it it always likes to pretend it's a fresh problem in my head and I never know what to do
[16:05] <Pici> LoRez: Do you get the same error if you use apt instead of aptitude?
[16:05] <LoRez> Pici: yep
[16:05] <topyli> jaime: i'd figure out what wireless chip my machine has and whether or not there is a driver present. also, that wifi is not simply turned off either in hardware or the network manager
[16:05] <LoRez> Pici: it seems to be more of a new apt-http issue than any one archive.  or at least, a desync between what apt-http expects to be there and what ubuntu puts on their archives.
[16:07] <jaime> Here's the new part for me. This is my first time putting Linux on a Mac. Good because it's ridiculously simple to find out what my wireless chip is. Hard because I don't know where to get the drivers if I need them
[16:12] <jaime> topyli: Any thoughts?
[16:13] <Pici> LoRez: The comments in this bug suggest that we don't use the InRelease file, but again, that seems weird to me too: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/apt/+bug/947108
[16:15] <LoRez> Pici: why would there be old InRelease files if ubuntu doesn't use them?
[16:15] <Pici> LoRez: I suspect it meant that we don't use them on our official mirrors, but other repositories are free to use them as they see fit.
[16:19] <OffGridOps> Loving 12.04:  ? about Rhythmbox it seems the only way to have coverart is to be online and then you have to give access to LastFM to your stuff.  Is there any way around this?  Thanx.
[16:19] <jaime> Getting wireless working on Macbook Pro? Anyone?
[16:19] <OffGridOps> I ask as rhythmbox is default
[16:22] <linux-ninja> Does the new release supports magny cours CPUs?
[16:23] <penguin42> linux-ninja: I'd be surprised if it didn't
[16:24] <linux-ninja> ok
[16:24] <LoRez> Pici: a lucid apt-get update --print-uris doesn't include requests for InRelease
[16:24] <LoRez> Pici: this seems to be a new fail since the april 6th apt upgrade
[16:30] <topyli> jaime: works fine on my old macbook, but i didn't set it up. the mac was given to me with linux aready on it
[16:31] <topyli> jaime: seems to be more reliable with wicd than network-manager however
[16:31] <jaime> It's all greek
[16:32] <jaime> I'll figure it out. Just waiting on the 397 updates for the file I burned yesterday
[16:32] <dubios> why so many bugs in 12.04?
[16:34] <topyli> dubios: because it's not ready
[16:36] <jaime> Actually yeah. It's telling me the firmware is missing.  I'm using 12.04-beta2 and I choose the option to crypt my home folder but the installer crypts my swap area! how do I do to uncrypt the swap and crypt my /home?
[16:59] <jtaylor> why would you want an unencrypted swap?
[17:01] <mfilipe_> jtaylor, why would I want an encrypted swap? I can't hibernate my laptop for this
[17:02] <jtaylor> hibernating with unencrypted swap defeats the point of encrypted home
[17:04] <penguin42> jtaylor: Arguably though having / unencryted is almost as bad
[17:04] <jtaylor> true
[17:05] <jtaylor> if you're serious about it its full disk encryption or none at all
[17:05] <penguin42> I guess at least with encrypted home/swap you can't easily read the data if you just walk off with the laptop; but you could still inject something into /
[17:06] <jtaylor> if you do that not even full disk encryption helps you :/
[17:06] <jtaylor> you need UEFI for that
[17:06] <penguin42> or TPM boot
[17:06] <jeremiah_> how do i check for hdd errors? then how do i fix them?
[17:07] <mfilipe_> my ssd doesn't support FDE, so I want encrypt only my /home through software
[17:07] <penguin42> jeremiah_: If you do    udisks --dump    and then look for your hard drive there is a table of attribute /value/type values - and those are the failure information on the drive
[17:07] <mfilipe_> I don't see advantage about encrypt swap area
[17:08] <penguin42> mfilipe_: At hibernate all your data in RAM is copied out to swap
[17:08] <penguin42> mfilipe_: If you don't encrypt the swap then that can all be read out
[17:08] <mfilipe_> penguin42, do you encrypted your swap?
[17:09] <penguin42> mfilipe_: On my work laptop I encrypt everything except /boot
[17:10] <mfilipe_> encrypt /? why? in my / has only packages, libs and configs, nothing about personal data
[17:10] <linux-ninja> I try installing the latest beta (12.04) of ubuntu server, my server won't even launch the installer...probably too many bugs in the installer or seomthing else
[17:10] <penguin42> mfilipe_: Well it means I can be sure that logs and temporary directories don't get *any* confidential information - even accidentally
[17:15] <jeremiah_> penguin42, i did it but have no clue on what to look for. can i pastebin it to you?
[17:16] <penguin42> jeremiah_: Sure
[17:16] <penguin42> give the pastebin to the channel
[17:17] <jeremiah_> penguin42, http://pastebin.com/qxzyrJ3f
[17:18] <penguin42> jeremiah_: That looks good - the block starting raw-read-error-rate ... is the SMART data - that all looks excellent, a new drive, no reallocated sectors etc
[17:19] <jeremiah_> penguin42, then why does my lappy randomly freeze? someone told me because of hdd errors...
[17:20] <penguin42> jeremiah_: doesn't look like that to me - so describe the freezes, does the whole thing stop? Does it do it while you're doing something in particular? Does the capslock key or mouse still work?
[17:21] <jeremiah_> penguin42, when it freezes, everything stops except the mouse.nothing in particular. don't think capslock work....
[17:22] <GirlyGirl> Hi how can I completely remove libreoffice from Kubuntu precise
[17:22] <penguin42> jeremiah_: You say except the mouse - so that still moves?
[17:22] <jeremiah_> yep
[17:22] <penguin42> GirlyGirl: Try removing libreoffice-common ?
[17:23] <penguin42> jeremiah_: OK, so there are two things to do, when you reset  you can have a look around the logs in /var/log to see if there was anything just before it died; the fact that the mouse cursor still moves means the kernel hasn't completely died
[17:24] <jeremiah_> penguin42, so i do what?
[17:24] <penguin42> jeremiah_: The other thing you could try is when it crashes try hitting ctrl-alt-f1 to get to a text mode console; then if you're lucky you might be able to log in and see what's going on - which takes a bit of experience to figure out why
[17:24] <jeremiah_> ya.... and i don't have much
[17:25] <penguin42> jeremiah_: It's a bit difficult to figure that type of stuff out - random hangs aren't easy to find
[17:25] <jeremiah_> so how do i find logs?
[17:27] <penguin42> jeremiah_: Most are in /var/log
[17:27] <Gremlyn> hello all! question on the Messaging Menu... It appears to not be working :( I'm only seeing the statuses, which are greyed out, and the Clear button
[17:28] <jeremiah_> penguin42, were is that???
[17:28] <Gremlyn> I have Pidgin up and running, and when I first got 12.04 running, pidgin showed up in there
[17:28] <Zoffix_> Hey, so it seems I found the perfect desktop manager, E17, except for two things: don't have a task bar, and have no luck compiling one, and I have no idea how to set the compose key. Anyone have any experience with it, or should I try the E17 channel?
[17:28] <Gremlyn> I did remove some components, like gwibber and empathy because I have no need of them
[17:28] <penguin42> jeremiah_: /var/log/dmesg, syslog and kern.log are probably good ones to look at - they have times on them see if something bad looking appears in them at about the same time as the hang - then come back and ask someone on here what the message means
[17:29] <penguin42> jeremiah_: They're just files on your filesystem
[17:31] <jeremiah_> penguin42, ok. found kern.log but i have kern.log and kern.log.1 do i look in both or what??
[17:32] <jeremiah_> and what am i looking for?
[17:32] <penguin42> jeremiah_: kerne.log.1 is the one before the current one, and kern.log.2
[17:32] <penguin42> jeremiah_: Something that happened at about the same time as your hang
[17:32] <jeremiah_> don't have kern.log.2 only one
[17:33] <jeremiah_> can i just pastebin them both to you?
[17:34] <penguin42> jeremiah_: It's ok, the higher the number the older
[17:35] <penguin42> jeremiah_: Yeh pastebin one of them and I'll have a quick look
[17:38] <jeremiah_> hang on....
[17:40] <jeremiah_> errg. i exceeded the limit.
[17:42] <hetrinity0> Good afternoon, everyone... Might someone be able to assist me with a question?
[17:43] <hetrinity0> Good afternoon, everyone... Might someone be able to assist me with a question?
[17:43] <Pici> Don't ask to ask, just ask.
[17:43] <genii-around> hetrinity0: The question itself first might be helpful
[17:43] <jtyska> hello guys
[17:43] <hetrinity0> Oh... 8P
[17:43] <jtyska> i've upgraded my ubuntu 11.10 to 12.04 using the update-manager -d command
[17:44] <jtyska> now, i arrive to the login screen, but when i choose my main (and unique user) and set the passwd, the screen blinks and i the login screen appears again
[17:44] <jtyska> someone can help me with this?
[17:44] <hetrinity0> Well, I tried this beta version out yesterday, but Ubuntu Software Center didn't show the two things I'd bought in 11.10, to download and install in 12.04. Is this a bug, or, is that how it works?
[17:52] <hetrinity0> Well, I tried this beta version out yesterday, but Ubuntu Software Center didn't show the two things I'd bought in 11.10, to download and install in 12.04. Is this a bug, or, is that how it works?
[17:53] <jtyska> anyone could help me?
[17:54] <jeremiah_> penguin42, http://pastebin.com/YHwt3Tcv first half....
[17:54] <hetrinity0> I would if I could... I'm still relatively new to linux in general... 8(
[17:54] <Pici> hetrinity0: Much like most of the stuff in Canonical's partner repository, they usually don't show up until after release.
[17:55] <penguin42> jeremiah_: So that's all at one time - all when wifi was doing something
[17:55] <jeremiah_> hang on. not fin.
[17:55] <jeremiah_> http://pastebin.com/FECdnQdp
[17:55] <hetrinity0> Ah, I feared that may be the case... It's only a month to wait, isn't it?
[17:56] <penguin42> jeremiah_: You cna use pastebinit to put a wholefile up
[17:56] <jeremiah_> how?
[17:56] <jeremiah_> kern is so long i would have to give it in like ten peices
[17:56] <penguin42> jeremiah_: The interesting question is is there anything in there at the time around when it crashed;     if you have pastebinit installed then do    pastebinit -i filename
[17:57] <hetrinity0> Thanks for the help, guys.. Loggin back outta here...
[17:57] <BluesKaj> jtyska, at the login page , ctrl+alt+F1 , then after login , do , sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade ...there are some partial upgrades that didn't get thru , that happened to me yesterday . Then reboot
[17:58] <jtyska> BluesKaj: ok, tks. I'll try that
[18:00] <AceJas> Question? Does The Ubuntu notification system check for Thunderbird e-mails if THunderbird is not open?
[18:00] <jeremiah_> penguin42, pastebinit will not install for me. i will have to talk to you later because i have to go. thanks for helping up to here for me.
[18:00] <penguin42> no problem
[18:00] <penguin42> jeremiah_: I probably won't be around here later - but I'm sure someone will help
[18:03] <jeremiah_> ya ok
[18:08] <carnau> ¿Where I can look for PP reported bugs? I have one in Rhythmbox so I want to know if it's reported.
[18:08] <krnekhelesh> AceJas, no unfortunately the messaging menu notification cannot check emails when thunderbird is not running...
[18:08] <krnekhelesh> AceJas, you should install unity-mail, a light weight running daemon which checks for new mail
[18:09] <Gremlyn> does anyone know if removing empathy/gwibber is not recommended?
[18:09] <Gremlyn> wondering if removing them broken my messaging menu
[18:09] <Gremlyn> s/broken/broke/
[18:10] <trism> Gremlyn: you are free to remove them if you like, if their remove does break anything that is a bug, although I just have pidgin and liferea up there and it seems to be working fine
[18:11] <Gremlyn> when I first got up and running, messaging menu worked with pidgin, but now it is only showing the status icons (greyed out) and clear
[18:11] <jtyska> BluesKaj: It did not any update
[18:11] <jtyska> and i figured out that the problem is with my user
[18:12] <Gremlyn> guess I should try reinstalling to see if it fixes
[18:12] <jtyska> i created another user and i got login
[18:13] <carnau> Anyone can confirm me that in rhythmbox some letters are vertically trimed (j,g,q,p) in the song info top block?
[18:16] <BluesKaj> jtyska, did you try updating as a diff user ?
[18:16] <carnau> Example: http://tinypic.com/r/e9hts6/5
[18:22] <sconstantine> help with make error on 12.04?
[18:22] <trism> sconstantine: pastebin the error
[18:24] <jbicha> carnau: sure I can confirm that, do you have a bug report for it?
[18:25] <carnau> jbicha, no i haven't
[18:25] <trism> maybe https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/rhythmbox/+bug/976692
[18:25] <carnau> jbicha, never done a bug report.
[18:26] <carnau> s/made/done/
[18:26] <jbicha> carnau: ok, cool. In some apps like Rhythmbox, it's easy. Just click Help>Report a Problem from inside Rhythmbox
[18:27] <jbicha> or you could run ubuntu-bug rhythmbox
[18:27] <jbicha> which would work even if the Help>Report a Problem menu item wasn't added to the app
[18:28] <carnau> grrrr, i hate my laptop touchpad. jbicha , good to know it, thank you. trism, yes, this is what i'm looking for, thanks.
[18:29] <sconstantine> help with make error on 12.04:   http://pastebin.com/5K8AS5BH
[18:30] <trism> sconstantine: hard to say without knowing what ./vsf_findlibs.sh does
[18:32] <Pici> sconstantine: Is there a reason you're trying to make vsftpd from source? Version 2.3.5 is in the repositories.
[18:33] <sconstantine> good question, 2.3.5 changes the chroot behavior of user dirs and breaks all my stuff :(
[18:34] <sconstantine> so i think my only options are either need to go back a rev or recompile 2.3.4...
[18:34] <sconstantine> contents of:  vsf_findlibs.sh added to paste - http://pastebin.com/5K8AS5BH
[18:34] <Pici> Oh :(
[18:34] <sconstantine> yeah :( killing me
[18:36] <penguin42> sconstantine: Ah, cheesy, hacky and broken
[18:36] <trism> sconstantine: oh the debian/rules from the vsftpd package manually passes the libs
[18:36] <sconstantine> seems like i'm just missing a dependancy or link in the make?  I guess I'm only encountering this issue because I'm at 12.04?
[18:37] <trism> sconstantine: make LIBS='-lwrap -lpam -lssl -lcrypto'
[18:37] <trism> sconstantine: I would also make sure you run: sudo apt-get build-dep vsftpd; first
[18:37] <jtyska> guys
[18:37] <sconstantine> trism:  doing now, thank you
[18:37] <jtyska> my problem is something like this
[18:37] <jtyska> http://askubuntu.com/questions/116017/cant-login-with-main-account-in-12-04
[18:38] <jtyska> but in my case, when i type unity --reset i get another errors
[18:38] <trism> sconstantine: sorry I forgot -lcap
[18:39] <sconstantine> ok, adding to make parameter;  brb
[18:39] <jtyska> (process:6632): GConf-Warking **: Client failed to connect to the D_-BUS daemon
[18:43] <sconstantine> trism:  wow, if i had only knew how amazing this place was last night before braindamage...  thank you, i'm much closer;  make suceeds!
[18:43] <trism> sconstantine: happy to hear it
[18:43] <sconstantine> trism:  build-dep had no actions.  make command was:   make LIBS='-lwrap -lpam -lssl -lcrypto -lcap'
[18:44] <sconstantine> trism:  can i ask a more n00b question now?  :-/
[18:45] <trism> sconstantine: ask away, although ask the channel I may not know
[18:46] <sconstantine> make install fails with cannot create man files, i currently have newer build from repo loaded, can i safely ignore and manually copy compiled file or how best to proceed?
[18:50] <bucky> hello
[18:55] <ttoine> hi
[18:55] <ttoine> I am using Xubuntu and Ubuntu Studio
[18:55] <ttoine> and would like to test The unity 2D desktop
[18:55] <ttoine> I just installed the Unity-2D package, but once restarted, I can't see it int the list at login
[18:55] <ttoine> is there a tweak I missed ?
[18:56] <trism> sconstantine: you can of course just copy the vsftpd binary to /usr/sbin/, although I think it would be better to take a look at the vsftpd packaging and rebuild the package with the version you need (and eventually get the newer version fixed so you don't have to keep doing this)
[19:00] <GirlyGirl> dohb: what gpu is it?
[19:00] <bucky> ttoine, dpkg -s unity-greeter    is it installed?
[19:01] <trism> ttoine: do you have gnome-session installed?
[19:02] <trism> bucky: you don't need unity-greeter to log into the unity2d session
[19:04] <roothorick> my system will be fine, I'll go to close a tab in Firefox or something, and then all of a sudden, all of X grinds to a near-halt. I'll get mouse control back if I wait a little while, and can bring windows into the foreground, but they'll appear corrupted after a second or two
[19:04] <ttoine> trism, no, I only have the default xubuntu session manager
[19:04] <roothorick> where do I even begin troubleshooting this?
[19:04] <ttoine> bucky, I check that now
[19:04] <bucky> ttoine, listen to trism
[19:06] <ttoine> bucky : ok...
[19:07] <ttoine> trism, will gnome-session  replace the default xubuntu session manager ?
[19:08] <dohb> GirlyGirl: ATI Mobility FireGL V5250 is my graphics card
[19:10] <trism> ttoine: it shouldn't
[19:11] <ttoine> trism, ok I try that.
[19:11] <trism> ttoine: but it will add the xsession files you need to log into unity-2d
[19:16] <ttoine> trism, ok, thanks a lot !
[19:22] <bucky> I had a terrible time with youtube skipping, went through my ondemand daemon step up quite a few times then finally found a post that said to delete ~/.pulse and log out/log in.... that fixed it!
[19:23] <bucky> *snoopy dance*
[19:23] <trism> sconstantine: oh this may be of interest too: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/vsftpd/2.3.4-1ubuntu2 (it is commit 37 in lp:ubuntu/precise/vsftpd), so the work may already be done for you
[19:26] <Gremlyn> anyone know what, if anything, i can remove and reinstall to reset the Messaging Menu?
[19:27] <Gremlyn> oops
[19:33] <ironhalik> hmm, anyone noticed broken flash?
[19:33] <ironhalik> interestingly, both in firefox and chrome
[19:34] <trism> ironhalik: I had to: sudo apt-get install --reinstall flashplugin-installer; on my desktop after the update yesterday
[19:34] <sconstantine> trism:  thanks for link;  sadly it is already at 2.3.5 and not working.  so i'm able to make fine, but running it complains:  SSL support not compiled in
[19:34] <sconstantine> trism:  do those make link parameters disable openssl includes?
[19:37] <trism> sconstantine: the package has a patch that enables ssl support (debian/patches/01-builddefs.patch)
[19:37] <sconstantine> trism:  thanks, i'm sorry I don't quite know what to do with that information?
[19:38] <trism> sconstantine: you may want to try one of the builds from the 2.3.4-1ubuntu2 link above (you can find them if you click your architecture under the builds section) and see if that works
[19:38] <sconstantine> trism:  ok, i think that was where i sourced the tar, but i'll try again
[19:38] <trism> sconstantine: I mean one of the prebuilt debs
[19:39] <sconstantine> trism:  ahh
[19:40] <ironhalik> thanks trism
[19:41] <trism> ironhalik: did it work? I think the new update-notifier hooks are having a few issues
[19:43] <sconstantine> trism:  prebuilt deb worked great, YDFM! so happy it's all working even to don't understand why manual build won't work... happy dance
[19:45] <AaronCampbell> Where can I check what package versions are in 12.04?  Specifically I'm curious what version of Subversion is packaged
[19:45] <trism> !info subversion precise | AaronCampbell
[19:46] <AaronCampbell> Bummer.
[19:46] <trism> AaronCampbell: you can /msg ubottu info package or check packages.ubuntu.com (or also the launchpad page for the source package)
[19:46] <sconstantine> thank you freenode geniuses!
[19:46] <AaronCampbell> Thanks though
[19:50] <trism> AaronCampbell: might also be interested in bug 949143
[19:52] <AaronCampbell> trism: Thanks again!
[19:56] <sconstantine> trism:  thank you again for your help, you guys really saved my bacon
[20:00] <trism> sconstantine: you're welcome
[20:20] <kaziweb> Hi, is there any solution that I can do voice and video chat with yahoo messenger users?
[20:27] <jbicha> kaziweb: have you tried empathy? you probably want to install empathy-chat too (I don't personally use yahoo messenger chat)
[20:28] <jbicha> *sorry, empathy-call*
[20:30] <kaziweb> jbicha: does empathy support voice and video chat with yahoo messenger users?
[20:34] <cjohnston> For 3 days now, after an update, I am unable to use Chromium.. I start it from the icon (or command line) but the browser never appears.. When I run top I have atleast 10 instances of chromium-browse that appear in the list, however nothing ever shows up.. Anyone have any idea why it isn't finishing with the startup?
[20:35] <hellyeah> hey
[20:35] <hellyeah> is there anybody there
[20:37] <guntbert> !ask | hellyeah
[20:37] <DJRWolf> if I install 12.04 beta 2 on an external 2.5" HDD, will I be able to update it to full release when that drops using just the update manager?
[20:37] <hellyeah> okey i am using 12.04 ubuntu when i boot windows i took error like hd1cannot get c/h/s values how can i solve that
[20:37] <jbicha> kaziweb: I don't know, I don't use yahoo messenger
[20:38] <kaziweb> jbicha: Thanks dear.
[20:40] <hellyeah> is there any response about that
[20:40] <nathwill> kaziweb, no i don't believe it supports yahoo voice/video chat
[20:41] <guntbert> !final | DJRWolf
[20:42] <DJRWolf> ok, thanks guntbert
[20:43] <kaziweb> nathwill: Actually I've converted 5 windows user to Ubuntu. They are asking any solution to do voice and video chat with yahoo messenger users. All of them used to chat in yahoo b4. I'm looking for a a way to help them.
[20:44] <nathwill> kaziweb: maybe running yahoo! messenger in wine, but i've never found a solution other than using google
[20:44] <DJRWolf> what do you get for killing and Enderdragon?
[20:44] <DJRWolf> mt
[20:44] <nathwill> kaziweb, ages ago, there used to be a native *nix client for y!im, but... it's gone now
[20:45] <nathwill> kaziweb... i'm gonna look into this a bit and try to get back to you...
[20:45] <kaziweb> nathwill: from google can they do video chat with yahoo users?
[20:46] <kaziweb> nathwill: this will be a gr8 help dear! pls pls!
[20:46] <nathwill> kaziweb, no. yahoo! msgr uses its own protocols as i understand. google uses xmpp
[20:46] <nathwill> kaziweb, i can ask some folks on yahoo! messenger. i'll be back with info soon
[20:46] <nathwill> ish
[20:47] <kaziweb> nathwill: I'm waiting dear.
[20:57] <freezer> hi
[20:57] <topyli> i don't think yahoo and google can even exchange text chat, let alone video
[20:57] <freezer> after removing nvidia-current and reinstalling it a little later, it's not working anymore
[20:57] <freezer> the module is loaded,
[20:58] <freezer> but Xorg.0.log says 14.948] (EE) Failed to load module "nvidia" (module does not exist, 0)
[20:58] <freezer> rebuilt the initramfs several times etc
[20:58] <freezer> just wont work :(
[21:06] <nathwill> kaziweb: yeah, hate to break it to ya... all out of luck
[21:07] <nathwill> kaziweb: it may be worth looking at running the official y! msgr in WINE, but i wouldn't count on great success
[21:10] <kaziweb> nathwill: I found one "Gyache Improved" and I've installed it. I can do chat only but not voice and video. If u want I can give you the link.
[21:10] <nathwill> kaziweb, almost all the nix IM clients support chat
[21:11] <nathwill> empathy/pidgin, etc
[21:11] <nathwill> bitlbee
[21:11] <nathwill> i know of none that support vid/audio :(
[21:11] <kaziweb> u r right.
[21:11] <kaziweb> Don't know wt to do? I don't how I'll support my new converts.
[21:13] <nathwill> kaziweb, begin inculcating them with the ethos, open platforms
[21:14] <nathwill> sucks, not an easy sell, but...
[21:14] <nathwill> best in the long run for everyone.
[21:14] <kaziweb> nathwill: I don't know about ethos. Let me check.
[21:15] <nathwill> kaziweb: the philosophy of openness... sorry for the poor choice of wording
[21:16] <kaziweb> Nathwill: It's a nice idea. I must try.
[21:16] <kaziweb> nathwill: thanks for your effort.
[21:17] <nathwill> kaziweb, glad to inform, sorry i could not resolve :)
[21:18] <kaziweb> nathwill: it's okay. don't be sad. we all are trying.  Thanks again.
[21:19] <topyli> what i did i just logged off all yahoo and msn, and told my friends how to reach me if they want to chat. those with real need did, and those who just wanted to bother me with nonsense stopped doing that
[21:20] <topyli> everybody wins :)
[21:24] <scar3crow> help with sun java 7 pls
[21:30] <scar3crow> yeah, 2 different repos fail to install java for me :(
[21:32] <mouth1> hi
[21:36] <mouth1> Are optional PPA's secure?
[21:36] <micahg> mouth1: yoúre giving root on your system to the uploader of these PPAs
[21:36] <mouth1> what does that mean please?
[21:37] <mouth1> i am giving administrator rights to the uploader of the PPA?
[21:37] <micahg> yes
[21:37] <Ian_Corne> mouth1: that you're installing binary packages
[21:37] <mouth1> oh
[21:37] <Ian_Corne> which could do anything
[21:37] <mouth1> that's not good
[21:37] <micahg> mouth1: just for the duration of installing the package though
[21:37] <mouth1> i noticed a lot of themes require PPAs
[21:37] <mouth1> is that bad?
[21:38] <mouth1> coming from windows and problems with malware i am afraid :(
[21:38] <Ian_Corne> micahg: even afterwards, i could install itself als a service running as root..
[21:38] <micahg> Ian_Corne: right, but my point was, yoúre not giving them an account, but a one time access which could install malware though
[21:38] <Ian_Corne> you give them everything :p
[21:38] <Ian_Corne> they could create an account
[21:39] <mouth1> are there any known trojans for linux?
[21:39] <Ian_Corne> no
[21:39] <Ian_Corne> ah
[21:39] <Ian_Corne> any
[21:40] <atrus> i'm sure there have been some
[21:42] <mouth1> hmm
[21:43] <mouth1> well my problem is that on windows when installing a program you have to be afraid that it will spy on you
[21:43] <Ian_Corne> You have to be equally as vigilant on linux
[21:43] <mouth1> i understand that programs on linux usually never contact any server for updates as that is managed through sources (great idea!)
[21:43] <Ian_Corne> it's just good practice :)
[21:44] <mouth1> so can programs spy on you on linux?
[21:44] <mouth1> practically
[21:44] <mouth1> from the repos for example
[21:44] <Ian_Corne> from the official repo's
[21:44] <Ian_Corne> there's very little chance
[21:44] <Ian_Corne> it's all opesource (except the grafics drivers)
[21:45] <mouth1> why would a program not be in the repos and require an optional PPA?
[21:47] <Ian_Corne> PPA's often supply the latest bleeding edge versions
[21:47] <Ian_Corne> and it's not that easy to get into the official repo's
[21:47] <Ian_Corne> you need to have some quality
[21:47] <mouth1> ah
[21:47] <mouth1> so things like "gnome-tweak-tool" are secure because it is in the repos
[21:47] <mouth1> http://www.noobslab.com/2012/03/install-faenza-icons-12-on-ubuntulinux.html
[21:47] <mouth1> here is an icon set
[21:47] <mouth1> requires a PPA :/
[21:48] <Ian_Corne> the ppa contains the theme actually
[21:48] <Ian_Corne> not gnome-tweak-tool
[21:48] <Ian_Corne> PPA's aren't evil, you just have to trust the creator
[21:54] <BarkingFish> does anyone happen to know if help is needed triaging bugs with the 12.04 beta please?  I filed a bug almost 4 days ago, it's not been triaged, so I'd guess that there's either an influx of bugs, and the triagers are swamped, or we're simply short of people to triage them :)
[21:56] <yofel> BarkingFish: the bugsquad in #ubuntu-bugs will be happy for any help they'll get (and you usually complain about a bug not being looked at after 4 months, not days ^^)
[21:56] <yofel> depends on the package though
[21:57] <BarkingFish> ndiswrapper is the issue, which was recently moved from being a kernel module to being supported by dkms, and it's only since dkms this problem has cropped up
[21:57] <mouth1> Ian_Corne: did you hear of elementary OS?
[21:58] <BarkingFish> yofel, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ndiswrapper/+bug/975322
[21:58] <Ian_Corne> yes
[21:58] <Ian_Corne> but i'm going to bed
[21:58] <Ian_Corne> gn
[21:58] <mouth1> gn
[21:58] <mouth1> well maybe anybody else?
[21:58] <mouth1> elementary OS seems to use a lot of unual programs, midori for browser, postler for mail
[21:58] <mouth1> are they better then the standard ubuntu comes with?
[22:01] <nathwill> mouth1, that's probably a question for the elementary irc channel
[22:02] <yofel> BarkingFish: any messages in dmesg or syslog when you plug the device in?
[22:02] <micahg> mouth1: those apps are available in the archive and you are free to try them and use whatever works best for you
[22:03] <BarkingFish> there are messages in the dmesg, but nothing which indicates any problems, and there are no entries in syslog whatsoever which indicate an issue
[22:03] <BarkingFish> ^yofel
[22:03] <BarkingFish> I'll bring up the dmesg in konsole and attach those to the bug - i've still not worked out how to copypaste from a TTY, or whether I even can :)
[22:04] <yofel> well, save the output of the command into a file
[22:04] <Debolaz_> Meh, the elementary os website left a bit to be desired.
[22:04] <yofel> i.e. dmesg > file
[22:04] <Debolaz_> A lot of information about stuff I didn't want to know, no information about what I wanted to know.
[22:04] <yofel> hm
[22:05]  * yofel just had nouveau fail on him on his thinkpad
[22:13] <BarkingFish> yofel: I've added the relevant lines from dmesg concerning ndiswrapper (in fact, all the lines that were there) and also notes about network from the syslog
[22:13] <BarkingFish> it may not be much help, but if it is, so much the better
[22:13] <mouth1> hm ok thanks
[22:13] <mouth1> i can't wrap my head around all that stuff
[22:13] <mouth1> :)
[22:13] <mouth1> midori looks like a great browser ebcause of webkit
[22:14] <mouth1> but if its unstable or not secure if you have to add it through a PPA then i think i stick with what ubuntu comes with
[22:14] <BarkingFish> isn't midori that thing where you sing and it identifies what you're singing?
[22:15]  * BarkingFish hits himself
[22:15] <BarkingFish> never mind, that's Midomi I'm thinking of :P
[22:15] <micahg> mouth1: well, we have a version of midori in teh archive
[22:15] <mouth1> thanks micahg but what exactly does that mean?
[22:16] <micahg> mouth1: you can install it from the software center without any PPAs
[22:16] <mouth1> and then it's surely secure and not spyware or anything?
[22:17] <mouth1> coming from windows, sorry...
[22:23] <mouth1> another question
[22:24] <mouth1> i have a radeon 6850, what graphics driver should i use?
[22:24] <mouth1> ati or fglrx or is that even called like that now?
[22:28] <yofel> BarkingFish: I don't see anything wrong either there, esp. since network manager seems to see wlan0 fine...
[22:29] <BarkingFish> bingo.
[22:29] <BarkingFish> That's my problem. ndiswrapper sees the USB stick, it even identifies it when the system doesn't show it as an interface, but I have to unload and reload ndiswrapper - disconnecting the stick in between, and putting it back - before it pops up as an interface
[22:31] <yofel> reminds me of my thinkpads 2nd battery
[22:31] <xrdodrx> BarkingFish, if you use screen you can copy and paste from a tty
[22:32] <yofel> thee kernel doesn't see that either until I plug it out/in, or empty it once after boot
[22:32] <yofel> correction, the kernel sees it, upower doesn't
[22:32] <mouth1> hmm, right now what is better "ati" or "fglrx" drivers?
[22:32] <xrdodrx> BarkingFish, screen; C-a [, move cursor to beginning, space bar, move cursor to end, space bar, C-a a, nano, C-a ]
[22:32] <xrdodrx> the more you know!
[22:33] <BarkingFish> xrdodrx, mind explaining that to me in english? :)
[22:33] <BarkingFish> lol
[22:33] <yofel> C = Ctrl key
[22:34] <BarkingFish> and what is nano?
[22:34] <yofel> a simple terminal text editor
[22:34] <yofel> !info nano
[22:34] <BarkingFish> To be honest, I don't even know what screen is, or how to use it
[22:34] <yofel> BarkingFish: ok, you should read up on screen, very useful thing
[22:35] <yofel> can seem a bit complicated in the beginning, but you don't need all features usualy
[22:35] <yofel> and read up on byobu while at it ^^
[22:35] <bjsnider> could someone install firefox-dev and run this command please: pkg-config --cflags npapi-sdk
[22:35] <yofel> that's a nice scripted screen setup
[22:35] <BarkingFish> ok, will have a read up when I have some time.
[22:36] <yofel> bjsnider: http://paste.ubuntu.com/922577/
[22:37] <bjsnider> yofel, please run pkg-config --cflags mozilla-plugin
[22:37] <yofel> -DXP_UNIX -I/usr/include/firefox
[22:37] <bjsnider> ty
[23:07] <hellyeah> hey
[23:07] <hellyeah> i cannot boot windows it said hd1 cannot get c/h/s values what is that
[23:14] <BarkingFish> Cylinders, Heads and Sectors, hellyeah
[23:15] <BarkingFish> what that means is if your computer is saying it can't read those values, the disk is probably on the way out
[23:15] <hellyeah> hahaha
[23:15] <hellyeah> but after ubuntu upgrade it start giving that error
[23:15] <hellyeah> ?
[23:16] <hellyeah> i am using 12.04
[23:16] <BarkingFish> same here, hellyeah - but I don't dual boot
[23:16] <hellyeah> hmm
[23:16] <hellyeah> i need to do dual boot
[23:16] <BarkingFish> All I know is that I've seen the CHS error before when I used to dual boot on another Linux version, and 2 weeks later my drive died
[23:27] <bjsnider> !find mozilla-plugin.pc
[23:48] <user_> hello
[23:49] <user_> anyone avail to help with a query
[23:49] <agoodm> something during startup of my laptop is causing so much swapping that my system is unresponsive for 4 minutes after boot and I am presently unable to work out what is causing it
[23:49] <agoodm> I might be able to help
[23:49] <user_> I need to recover my dads contacts for his iphone - can anyone help?
[23:49] <agoodm> what happened to them?
[23:50] <user_> no backups on the itunes computer hold any contact data
[23:50] <user_> they were lost during the ios 5.1 update process - the process failed to make a complete backup but resumed anyhow
[23:51] <agoodm> give up; you wont get them back
[23:51] <agoodm> most likely the area of flash they were in has been over written and theyre lost for good
[23:51] <BarkingFish> could I just ask how this is relevant to Ubuntu? :)
[23:51] <agoodm> thats what I was gonna ask next :D
[23:51] <user_> how do i use this gnome irc to change networks?
[23:52] <user_> i have found a way of doing it but it requires ubuntu
[23:52] <BarkingFish> what are you using now?
[23:52] <user_> and access to government and law enforcement tools that are used to gather forensic data evidence from iphones
[23:53] <user_> that is the only way i can get the numbers back
[23:53] <agoodm> user_, seriously give up, I promise you a cup of coffee (which you're willing to collect from me if im wrong ;-) ) that theyre gone forever and noone can recover them
[23:53] <user_> I'll send you a youtube link
[23:53] <agoodm> its almost certain the area in flash they used to be in has now been over writen if you have flashed a new ios
[23:54] <user_> if i can get the raw data then deep scan it using a hard drive data recovery utility
[23:54] <agoodm> once the data is over written any hope is totally lost, noone can get the data back
[23:54] <user_> ?
[23:54] <agoodm> possibly but seriously, the amount of data written is massive and therefore almost certainly the data is gone
[23:54] <user_> i haven't over written any contacts - user data is separate from firmware data on iphones
[23:55] <agoodm> even if you dumped the phones storage and its not over written i think the iphone encrypts the data; or its not stored plain text...
[23:55] <user_> just watch this
[23:56] <user_> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kHdNoKIZUCw&feature=youtube_gdata_player
[23:57] <user_> dads iphone is a 3gs
[23:57] <user_> yeah i know old but this shit is amazing
[23:57] <pangolin> what does iphone have to do with ubuntu?
[23:57] <pangolin> user_, keep the language clean in here please
[23:57] <user_> sorry
[23:58] <user_> someone please tell me how to join a different network
[23:58] <user_> using x-chat in ubuntu
[23:58] <pangolin> /server irc.some-network.com
[23:58] <user_> thank god for pangolin
[23:58] <BarkingFish> pangolin, how did you get that to go into your irc client without it doing what you asked? :)
[23:59] <pangolin> BarkingFish, in xchat you put a slash before the /
[23:59] <pangolin> so //
[23:59] <BarkingFish> i have enormous trouble trying to show people / commands because I usually end up executing them :D
[23:59] <pangolin> in irssi I believe you put a / space /command
[23:59] <mouth1> how can i change the default color from orange to blue?
[23:59] <pangolin> so / /command


[14:14] <zhangxing> who can tell me how to uninstall the cross compile evn
[14:16] <amitk> zhangxing: remove the compiler from PATH?
[14:18] <zhangxing> ok
[14:18] <zhangxing> thanks
[19:44] <Martyn_> Has anyone tried getting the new qualcomm-sun java port working on 9.04 or 9.10 arm?
[19:45] <Martyn_> It's compiled with v6 optims