[11:15] <vircuser> many people do a double boot: use windows for games and ubuntu for "serious stuff" ;)
[11:15] <adrien> bashca, check this :http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=665332
[11:15] <adrien> it might help you
[11:15] <bob_1904> cedega is based on the wine engine but is enhanced for 3D gaming - but dual booting makes more sense
[11:16] <bashca> adrien, thanks i will
[11:17] <adrien> bashca , the interesting part is in the last POST
[11:17] <vircuser> I'd like to introduce Ubuntu to some people in europe - but if they ask "..and how do I type the Euro character?" i need a simple explanation, otherwise they might turn into "OS too complicated for me" mode ;)
[11:18] <AliTarihi> Well... Does anyone know about the problem of Nvidia Driver and Hibernate/Suspend?
[11:18] <adrien> hopefully you manage, the howto is a bit lousy for beginners  though
[11:19] <bashca> ok
[11:19] <vircuser> anyone ever tried to use MSIE in Ubuntu? It seems some pages require it (ActiveX, JScript et al)
[11:20] <wild_oscar> is there a repository for gutsy for Openoffice 2.3.1?
[11:20] <wild_oscar> or the latest version of openoffice
[11:20] <kaushal> hi
[11:21] <kaushal> I am installing apache2-src through synaptic
[11:21] <dgjones> !ies4linux | vircuser
[11:21] <ubotu> vircuser: ies4linux is a script that quickly and effortlessly helps you install 3 versions of IE in Wine. Information can be found at http://www.tatanka.com.br/ies4linux/page/Main_Page including instructions specifically for Ubuntu. ies4linux is aimed at web designers and ie-only sites, so please, don’t use any of the IEs to navigate! Use Firefox!
[11:21] <tdawgedogg> hey guys im new to ubuntu or linux all together....are the respitories updated with all of the newest updates for programs or does it take a while sometimes?
[11:21] <bob_1904> there is a default one already. What you can do is go to the OpenOffice website and download+extract a tarball
[11:22] <kaushal> whats the location of apache2-src in ubuntu 7.04
[11:22] <ichbinesderelch> takes some time tdawgedogg
[11:22] <tdawgedogg> really like how long?
[11:22] <bob_1904> It's the most recent stable and supported editions you get by default - you have to enable them in your settings
[11:22] <kaushal> is it /usr/share/doc/apache2-src
[11:22] <ichbinesderelch> time it needs to make packages and all
[11:22] <ichbinesderelch> but you should go with farely new packages
[11:22] <dgjones> tdawgedogg, the repositories for each version are updated for security/bug fixes, but not just for the latest versions, they get added to the 6 monthly version upgrades
[11:23] <bob_1904> For those of you who are interested in more proprietary software, Medibuntu is a great place to go
[11:25] <vircuser> dawg, any program (the stable version of it) will get updated once the developers update it
[11:25] <vircuser> so sometimes you'll find update notifications several days in a row
[11:25] <wild_oscar> I found Openoffice 2.3.1 here: http://packages.ubuntu.com/hardy/openoffice.org-base
[11:25] <tdawgedogg> ok woot i dont care about beta versions...i want all the stable versions of stuff
[11:26] <wild_oscar> can I somehow add that directory to my package management and update it?
[11:26] <vircuser> can't you get openoffice trough the normal repositories?
[11:26] <vircuser> i think i got it winth apt-get
[11:26] <tdawgedogg> so u know at the top right where it shows system updates...every program I have in ubuntu is updated via system updates
[11:26] <tdawgedogg> and it will always check my programs or how does that work
[11:26] <vircuser> yes, every prog you have installed
[11:26] <tdawgedogg> thats awesome
[11:27] <vircuser> yea ;)
[11:27] <bob_1904> (assuming you've installed it via the 'add/remove apps' panel
[11:27] <bob_1904> or by sudo apt-get install (app)
[11:27] <tdawgedogg> like in windows I dont even know when programs have updates...its nice having all programs and updates in one place
[11:27] <wild_oscar> vircuser: not version 2.3.1
[11:27] <bob_1904> yep
[11:27] <N4cht> tdawgedogg, not only that.. but when a new version of ubuntu is available, you can use the update manager to upgrade your entire system to the new version.
[11:27] <vircuser> wild, ah ok..
[11:27] <tdawgedogg> ive just been downloading using that synaptic package manger is that the right way?
[11:28] <bob_1904> sudo apt-get upgrade tends to do the job
[11:28] <Trashlord> tdawgedogg, I wouldn't say "right way", I'd call it the "preferred way"
[11:28] <elektronik123> witam
[11:28] <vircuser> well, i have my windows updates set, so they tell me which updates get installed
[11:29] <bob_1904> or sudo apt-get updates then sudo apt-get install updates
[11:29] <elektronik123> czy to oficjalny kanal pomocy ubuntu ?
[11:29] <vircuser> so for me it's like in Ubuntu (for the security fixes)
[11:29] <N4cht> tdawgedogg, that's the best way to install new packages, yes.   as for upgrading already installed packages, it's best to let the update managed do the trick if you're a more GUI heavy user, otherwise apt-get upgrade works the same way.
[11:29] <Trashlord> It depends how you like it, I personally use either apt-get, or download packages and then sudo dpkg -i
[11:29] <bulbulred> Hi, i have just installed a zabbix server, agent and frontend. Installaion worked fine. But my host (zabbix server itself) is monitored but the availability is UNKNOWN... my server log is: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/56731/ and my agent log is: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/56732/
[11:29] <elektronik123> nie moge wlaczyc terminalu
[11:29] <dgjones> !pl | elektronik123
[11:29] <ubotu> elektronik123: Mozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu-pl
[11:29] <radone> please haw can I install ubuntu on HDD using command line?
[11:30] <dgjones> !alternate | radone
[11:30] <ubotu> radone: The Alternate CD is a classical text-mode install CD. It supports a wider range of hardware than the !LiveCD, and can also be used as an upgrade CD.  Look for the alternate checkbox on the Ubuntu download page - See also !minimal
[11:30] <elektronik123> i can-t join to #ubuntu-pl
[11:30] <N4cht> radone, download a copy of the non-graphical ubuntu installer iso (known as alternate installer)
[11:30] <vircuser> i usually use "apt-get install xxxx"
[11:30] <vircuser> automitically install xxxx
[11:30] <vircuser> sometimes I'm not even sure about the name of xxxx
[11:31] <elektronik123> i can`t join to #ubuntu-pl
[11:31] <vircuser> and it will give me suggestions sometimes
[11:31] <dgjones> elektronik123, type "join #ubuntu-pl" without the "'s, that should take you to #ubuntu-pl
[11:31] <dgjones> elektronik123, sorry "/join #ubuntu-pl"
[11:31] <bulbulred> anybode knows something about zabbix? please?
[11:32] <elektronik123> i am blocked
[11:32] <Trashlord> how do I convert a drive's file system? I have a drive which is NTFS, and I want to convert it to linux format, how do I do that?
[11:32] <tdawgedogg> hey in this damn xchat irc program how do i get it to not show when ppl leave and come into the room
[11:32] <Frogzoo> Trashlord: you can't - you'll need to backup your data & reformat as ext3
[11:32] <tdawgedogg> its anoying
[11:32] <boubbin> how to know if "Integrated Intel® Graphics Media Accelerator 3100 Graphics" is compatible with linux (ubuntu) ?
[11:32] <radone> dgjones: sorry I was not exact - I need ubuntu desktop, however graphics does not work from live distro. I am not sure if I understand well that alterante is only textual version of ubuntu
[11:33] <AppleHein> if I have shell only ubuntu. which command do I need to install gnome with apt-get fully? internet connection is established
[11:33] <elektronik123> i really con`t join on this channel
[11:33] <Trashlord> oh
[11:33] <ichbinesderelch> tdawgedogg: just right click on the channel name on the left and disable join messages
[11:33] <compwiz18> elektronik123: we can't help you here, but you can try #ubuntu-ops or something
[11:33] <Trashlord> I can do that easily then, thanks Frogzoo
[11:33] <dgjones> radone, the alternate cd installs a full graphical version, it just uses the command line to install
[11:33] <radone> dgjones: tahnks
[11:34] <vircuser> boubbin, if you have it already, just pop in the CD to test it
[11:34] <bulbulred> zabbix knowledge anyone (sorry for nagging about it)
[11:34] <vircuser> many intel chipsets are only supported in 2D though
[11:34] <crem0r> join #debian
[11:34] <wers> what does user folders update do? :D
[11:34] <vircuser> I had to set a line in a config file to get 3D effects on my notebook
[11:34] <AppleHein> if I have shell only ubuntu. which command do I need to install gnome with apt-get fully? internet connection is established
[11:34] <nios> i wonder why i cant play mp3s with xmms over my samba share, does anyone know why?
[11:34] <ichbinesderelch> apt-get install gnome? :P
[11:35] <compwiz18> AppleHein: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[11:35] <AppleHein> thanks compwiz
[11:35] <vircuser> yea, don't know why they don't just call it gnome :(
[11:35] <tdawgedogg> it doesnt give me that option when i right click on #ubantu...im using xchat gnome i think
[11:35] <dakira> hey.. how can i generate a file with dummy (or random) data? i.e. something like reading exactly 100MB from /dev/random into a file..
[11:35] <compwiz18> ubuntu-desktop contains more then just gnome
[11:35] <vircuser> but you can at least "apt-get install kde" ;)
[11:36] <white_eagle> if anyone in here needs direct rendering with ati
[11:36] <bob_1904> you could just install 'gnome-desktop', but then you'd just get the generic gnome desktop - you'd miss the ubuntu parts (as compwiz18 said)
[11:36] <white_eagle> see this page http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=589637
[11:36] <white_eagle> ;)
[11:36] <bob_1904> yes?
[11:36] <compwiz18> dakira: use dd if=/dev/urandom of=filename bs=10 count=10000 or something similar (I have no idea how much data you'll get with the command, my guess would be about 100kb)
[11:36] <bob_1904> thanks!
[11:37] <white_eagle> bob_1904, to me?
[11:37] <white_eagle> or...
[11:37] <vircuser> yea for kde you'd need to "apt-get install kubuntu" i think to get the ubuntu features
[11:37] <irony9999>  ciao a tutti e ben ritrovati
[11:37] <dgjones> tdawgedogg, you might be better with xchat, rather than xchat-gnome, they're slightly different versions, xchat seems to have more options
[11:37] <dakira> compwiz18.. great, thx.. that was what i was looking for!
[11:37] <irony9999> salve a tutti.....
[11:37] <bob_1904> yeah, that was to you white_eagle!
[11:37] <irony9999> e' italiano questo irc??
[11:37] <white_eagle> !it
[11:38] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[11:38] <compwiz18> dakira: no problem, but you'll have to figure out how to get 100mb :D
[11:38] <tdawgedogg> dgjones:ok thanks....how do I uninstall this and get normal xchat?
[11:38] <compwiz18> tdawgedogg: open the package manager and find "xchat" and remove "xchat-gnome"
[11:38] <white_eagle> bob_1904, you'll have to erase the fglrx drivers first
[11:38] <tdawgedogg> dgjones I didnt see a normal xchat package
[11:38] <dgjones> tdawgedogg, what version of ubuntu are you using?
[11:39] <compwiz18> tdawgedogg: it's not in the normal repos, its in universe or something
[11:39] <rilo> Soo, how can I enter extended ASCII given default keyboard settings for a US 105-key generic keyboard? It's actually a laptop keyboard and I would have to use Fn to simulate the keypad
[11:39] <bob_1904> ok that's fine - I hadn't installed any ATI drivers as yet
[11:39] <tdawgedogg> um gutsy? lol i dunno...I just downloaded it and installed it today
[11:39] <compwiz18> !universe | tdawgedogg
[11:39] <ubotu> tdawgedogg: The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecommendedSources for the recommended way to set up your repositories
[11:40] <tdawgedogg> ok thanks
[11:40] <compwiz18> you'll get a lot more packages with universe enabled
[11:40] <feysalus> Hi
[11:40] <dgjones> tdawgedogg, it should be there then, as compwiz18 suggests make sure you're universe repo is enabled and you'd updated after enabling it, then seach again
[11:40] <tdawgedogg> so If im already downloading something using the synaptic package manager I have to wait until its done before I can do anything else
[11:41] <compwiz18> yeah, xchat is in the networking section of universe
[11:41] <dgjones> tdawgedogg, best to wait till its finished, you'd probably get an error message saying that files are in use or locked
[11:41] <feysalus> I've been reading through some sites, and I've seen some linux user's systems hacked and their bash shell histories, files, db's etc. accessible to the intruder - so how much more secure is linux than windows?
[11:41] <compwiz18> and tdawgedogg, yes, you have to wait :(
[11:41] <compwiz18> feysalus: are you running any network services?
[11:42] <feysalus> nope
[11:42] <tdawgedogg> OK THANKS GUYZ...this room is very helpful!
[11:42] <compwiz18> feysalus: then far more secure then windows :)
[11:42] <white_eagle> feysalus: linux is far more secure than windows
[11:42] <vircuser> feysal - it more secure, but the security of every system depends hugely on the users of that system
[11:42] <compwiz18> if you start running ssh/telnet/apache/php/etc you can start getting issues, but again, it all depends on the configuration of said applications
[11:42] <white_eagle> (didn't I read that somewhere?) :D
[11:42] <vircuser> if they have weak password - no security can protect them
[11:42] <feysalus> oh ok
[11:43] <tdawgedogg> so what is a better media player application for encoder and decoder stuff as far as playing HD mkv files and stuff....vlc or mplayer?
[11:43] <Eckos> i get this: uclibc-toolchain: Depends: g++-4.1 (= 4.1.2-12ubuntu1) but 4.1.2-16ubuntu2 is to be installed
[11:43] <bob_1904> mplayer - head to Medibuntu to get sundry extra codecs and get a repository for the latest version!
[11:44] <bob_1904> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Medibuntu#head-7486ed038a9becc1dff10a24cc07a38a00d70e9f
[11:46] <vircuser> what bittorrent software are you guys using for ubuntu?
[11:47] <bashca> how can install new kernel  please
[11:47] <Slart> vircuser: azureus
[11:47] <vircuser> azureus 3?
[11:47] <dakira> vircuser: azureus is the only one that really works
[11:47] <Slart> bashca: first.. why do you want to install a new kernel?
[11:47] <vircuser> i think bittyrant is based off Azureus 2.5
[11:47] <Slart> dakira: naahh... there's deluge, ktorrent, rtorrent etc
[11:47] <dakira> vircuser: i myself use utorrent with wine
[11:47] <vircuser> Azureus 3 isn't GPL afaik
[11:47] <bashca> Slart, i can't  use  zte AC8700 mdsl usb  modem
[11:48] <dakira> Slart: ktorrent and rtorrent are nice.. but i found lots of bugs in deluge which make it unusable.. at least for me
[11:48] <vircuser> so which is the "best" ;)
[11:48]  * bashca using Gusty with kernel  2.6.22-14-generic
[11:48] <Slart> !best
[11:48] <ubotu> Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose, depending on your preferences, features you require, and other factors. Do NOT take polls in the channel. If you insist on getting people's opinions, join #ubuntu-bots and ask there.
[11:48] <vircuser> in terms of features
[11:48] <Slart> vircuser: azureus is hard to beat when it comes to features.. but it's also a beast to run..
[11:49] <vircuser> i've been using Azureus on windows (my system can handle the bloat)
[11:49] <Slart> bashca: and you can't use some kind of module? you need a new kernel for that to work?
[11:49] <vircuser> so Azureus v3 right now?
[11:49] <Slart> I run 3.something.. works nicely for me
[11:49] <bengee_> can anyone tell me how to set the directory of g++ (for geany)?
[11:50] <bashca> Slart, can you help me to add module for using  mdsl usb modem
[11:50] <vircuser> I tried bittyrant because I don't like the non-GPLishness of the new Azureus
[11:50] <SpacePilot> Been trying to find what driver I should use for a X1900XTX, but I can't find a clear answer?
[11:51] <Slart> bashca: probably not.. I'm not very good with kernels.. I just wanted to check if you really needed a new kernel... search the forums.. or the wiki.. I'm pretty sure there are howto's out there
[11:52] <bashca> Slart, i did  but  now result :(
[11:54] <Slart> bashca: here's one.. I don't know how good it is, you'll have to figure that out yourself.. http://www.howtoforge.com/kernel_compilation_ubuntu
[11:54] <music`freak> hi ppl.
[11:54] <vircuser> hehe kernel-compilation
[11:54] <vircuser> that's like the sledgehammer ;)
[11:55] <music`freak> need help with configuring my display in Ubuntu
[11:55] <tdawgedogg> how do i view all the packages I have on my computer then check what ones I wanna get rid of using synatpic package manager
[11:55] <bashca> Slart, thanks i will look
[11:55] <Slart> tdawgedogg: there is a button for.. status I think.. where you can select to view installed packages
[11:55] <music`freak> How do i know if the right graphics driver has been installed ?
[11:56] <music`freak> prince_jammys: ?
[11:56] <unknow[off]> ima li bylgari tuka?
[11:56] <Slart> !turkey
[11:56] <ubotu> Turk ubuntu kullanicilari, turkce yardim yada geyik icin #ubuntu-tr hizmetinizde.
[11:56] <music`freak> :/
[11:56] <Slart> or.. wait.. bylgari.. sounds like bulgaria..
[11:56] <tdawgedogg> do i wanna do a removal or a complete removal to get rid of a program in package manager?
[11:56] <Slart> !bulgaria
[11:56] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about bulgaria - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[11:57] <vircuser> yea start up package man and click the spot at the top left to sort the packages starting with the ones installed
[11:57] <Slart> !bg
[11:57] <ubotu> опитайте #ubuntu-bg за български потребители . try #ubuntu-bg for bulgarian users, and please idle there patiently
[11:57] <unknow[off]> does somebody speak bulgarian here?
[11:57] <dgjones> !bg
[11:57] <unknow[off]> !bg
[11:58]  * ^silverdor 5 menit off
[11:58] <DjViper> !us
[11:58] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about us - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[11:58] <vircuser> but to be honest, the adept package manager that comes with kubuntu is better
[11:58] <vircuser> it's even got a nice little chkeck mark to display only install packages etc.
[11:58] <georgepumpi> will someone help me to install graphic drivers for nVidia?
[11:58] <tdawgedogg> do i wanna do a removal or a complete removal to get rid of a program in package manager?
[11:59] <music`freak> anybody can help?
[11:59] <georgepumpi> under ubunto?
[11:59] <tdawgedogg> yeah
[11:59] <SleepingSloth> what decent alternatives are there to evolution?
[11:59] <DjViper> georgepumpi: system - administration - restricted drivers manager
[11:59] <vircuser> you can completely remove if you like
[11:59] <DjViper> SleepingSloth: thunderbird and gmail
[12:00] <music`freak> I need help with my display config
[12:00] <vircuser> other programs won't be affected
[12:00] <Slart> tdawgedogg: complete removal removes config files etc too.. removal only removes the binaries
[12:00] <tdawgedogg> ok thanks a lot!
[12:00] <vircuser> and if you think you did something wrong, you can simply install it again ;)
[12:00] <Slart> !nvidia | georgepumpi
[12:00] <ubotu> georgepumpi: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[12:00] <SleepingSloth> DjViper, are there any real advantages to either?
[12:00] <bulent> yes i have an some problem it's an nvidia driver install
[12:01] <georgepumpi> tnx
[12:01] <DjViper> SleepingSloth: gmail is webbased ;)
[12:01] <SleepingSloth> DjViper, i know that - i meant advantages to thunderbird or evolution... :S
[12:03] <Slart> SleepingSloth: I use thunderbird because I can use that on a windows machine if I have to as well... I don't think evolution is available on windows
[12:04] <Slart> SleepingSloth: evolution has the calendar stuff better integrated than thunderbird.. sure there is the lightning/sunbird thingy but it seems bolted on and hasn't really moved development-wise in a long time
[12:04] <howdoudo> hi. How do I get what version of ubuntu I am running in a terminal
[12:04] <Slart> howdoudo: lsb_release -a
[12:05] <faileas> Slart: actually there's a native windows evolution build. it sucks tho ;p
[12:05] <howdoudo> thankxs
[12:05] <Slart> howdoudo: or kernel version with "uname -a"
[12:05] <SleepingSloth> Slart, thanks - i'm not fussed about the calendar functions
[12:05] <Slart> faileas: hehe..  Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti, mneptok, Pici, Jack_Sparrow or nickrud!
[12:09] <dgjones> !ops | shaiful
[12:09] <shaiful> suck
[12:09] <shaiful> !op
[12:09] <loa> suspend2 or s2disk are broken
[12:10] <caligarn1037> anyone....? recommended software list for ubuntu/
[12:10] <caligarn1037> ?
[12:11] <njol> caligarn1037: urban terror, openarena, world of padman, alien arena 2007
[12:12] <caligarn1037> njol: those are games, i assume.
[12:12] <njol> i recommend this software
[12:12] <compwiz18> !best
[12:12] <ubotu> Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose, depending on your preferences, features you require, and other factors. Do NOT take polls in the channel. If you insist on getting people's opinions, join #ubuntu-bots and ask there.
[12:12] <njol> lol
[12:12] <caligarn1037> haha
[12:14] <bazhang> caligarn1037: sauerbraten is a must as well
[12:14] <vircuser> ubotu - why?
[12:14] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about why? - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[12:15] <vircuser> Isn't it ok to ask people what they use and why?
[12:15] <caligarn1037> im not so interested in games..
[12:15] <KRF> hi there, where's the best location to put 'LC_MESSAGES="C"' to get this system wide?
[12:15] <KRF>  /etc/environment?
[12:15] <vircuser> is that a bot?
[12:15] <compwiz18> !ubotu
[12:15] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[12:15] <vircuser> lol
[12:15] <caligarn1037> just useful software that i can tweak around with...example: amarok, k3b, krusader, VYM,
[12:16] <vircuser> and here was me trying to have a meaningful discussion with a bot :p
[12:16] <njol> caligarn1037: ok, i may recommend to you amarok, k3b, krusader, VYM
[12:16] <philipp_> hi there, i've got some problems compiling a package
[12:16] <caligarn1037> njol: hahah. thanks...i already have those. :-/
[12:17] <caligarn1037> vircuser: give it time AI will get better. :-D
[12:17] <caligarn1037> right ubotu?
[12:17] <caligarn1037> !yes
[12:17] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about yes - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[12:17] <bulent> always need a reconfigure
[12:17] <tdawgedogg> someone in here told me to get the sundry extra codecs for mplayer....whats the name of the package in package manager that has that
[12:17] <tdawgedogg> I found mplayer
[12:18] <caligarn1037> ugh...mplayer.
[12:18] <caligarn1037> :-P
[12:18] <tdawgedogg> Where do i get the codecs though?
[12:18] <tdawgedogg> and decoders and stuff
[12:18] <dgjones> !codecs | tdawgedogg
[12:18] <ubotu> tdawgedogg: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[12:19] <tdawgedogg> dgjones what does !codecs mean
[12:19] <rhineheart_m> I tried to change the settings of /etc/networking/interfaces before to static from DHCP....but when I rebooted the machine...I cannot access it anymore.. So I went to the box and configure it via console. Is anyone here who could assist me?
[12:19] <tdawgedogg> do i type that in terminal or something
[12:19] <caligarn1037> tdawgedogg: or you can just grab autmoatix...or even better...just download vlc media player...it should have all the necessaries
[12:19] <caligarn1037> *automatix2
[12:19] <compwiz18> !automatix
[12:19] <ubotu> automatix is not recommended, supported or needed. See http://mjg59.livejournal.com/77440.html and « /msg ubotu WorksForMe »
[12:19] <tdawgedogg> is vlc media player better than mplayer though...I want the best for playing HD mkv files and ts files
[12:20] <caligarn1037> compwiz18: interesting
[12:20] <dgjones> tdawgedogg, it prompts the channel bot to give you infor about codecs, have a look at the link that ubotu has just put in the channel and follow the links, that will explain what the best thing to do is
[12:20] <vircuser> !ubuntu
[12:20] <ubotu> Ubuntu is a complete Linux-based operating system, freely available with both community and professional support. It is developed by a large community and we invite you to participate too! - Also see http://www.ubuntu.com
[12:20] <compwiz18> caligarn1037: yeah - automatix can screw some stuff up sometimes
[12:20] <caligarn1037> compwiz18: i guess it's best to go with vlc ten
[12:20] <compwiz18> IIRC, it doesn't use the package manager, which defeats the point of having a package manager
[12:20] <caligarn1037> then*
[12:20] <tdawgedogg> what does !codecs mean?
[12:20] <compwiz18> caligarn1037: I agree - vlc or mplayer are awesome
[12:21] <vircuser> the bot will answer to anything following a "!"
[12:21] <compwiz18> tdawgedogg: you need codecs to watch different types of videos/music
[12:21] <tdawgedogg> oh lol crap
[12:21] <elektronik123> !a
[12:21] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about a - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[12:21] <compwiz18> :D
[12:21] <NthDegree> !zomgwtfbbq
[12:21] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about zomgwtfbbq - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[12:21] <rhineheart_m> Hello---I tried to change the settings of /etc/network/interfaces before to static from DHCP....but when I rebooted the machine...I cannot access it anymore.. So I went to the box and configure it via console. Is anyone here who could assist me?
[12:21] <caligarn1037> vircuser: anything?!
[12:21] <caligarn1037> !betterlife
[12:21] <NthDegree> rhineheart_m: make sure you have an auto line for your ethernet
[12:21] <tdawgedogg> heh ya i know what a codec is but do i need to get some for mplayer....decoders as well?
[12:21] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about betterlife - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[12:21] <vircuser> he will answer
[12:21] <caligarn1037> amazing
[12:21] <vircuser> i didn't say the answer would be helpful ;)
[12:22] <bulent> nvidia driver is not active
[12:22] <rhineheart_m> NthDegree:  how to do it?
[12:22] <NthDegree> rhineheart_m: I made the mistake of deleting the auto lines thinking they related to DHCP >.>
[12:22] <compwiz18> tdawgedogg: I may be wrong, but I *think* VLC and mplayer don't need codecs or have them built in or something
[12:22] <bazhang> tdawgedogg: using gnome you want to install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[12:22] <NthDegree> rhineheart_m: 1 sec and i'll paste my 4 lines
[12:22] <tdawgedogg> i have all the respatories installed i think
[12:22] <compwiz18> !pastebin | NthDegree
[12:22] <ubotu> NthDegree: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[12:23] <caligarn1037> compwiz18: i agree with you...vlc comes fully equipped
[12:23] <NthDegree> compwiz18: not on separate lines :P all on one
[12:23] <bazhang> tdawgedogg: that will allow vlc and mplayer and others (mp3 players etc) to have all the codecs they need
[12:23] <compwiz18> NthDegree: OK, I just do that because the floodbot kicks unsuspecting people :)
[12:23] <caligarn1037> tdawgedogg: i've never needed to get extra codecs for vlc
[12:23] <Shinji-> compwiz18, VLC has built-in codecs
[12:23] <ivanus> zagreb.hr.eu.undernet.org
[12:24] <gerutzu> hallo leute :)
[12:24] <compwiz18> I can never tell because I install everything that starts with gstreamer so I have everything anyway...
[12:24] <compwiz18> Shinji-: thank you :)
[12:24] <NthDegree> rhineheart_m: auto eth0 \n iface eth0 inet static \n address <IP_ADDRESS> \n netmask <IP_ADDRESS> \n gateway <IP_ADDRESS>
[12:24] <NthDegree> rhineheart_m: \n means newline
[12:24] <gerutzu> #/join ubuntu-de
[12:24] <tdawgedogg> what about like a ffdshow decoder or something....maybe this is just a windows thing but thats what i always used to play my mkv files
[12:24] <vircuser> hallo leut
[12:24] <vircuser> what's the singular of Leute?
[12:24] <bazhang> tdawgedogg: vlc will play them
[12:24] <compwiz18> vlc will play just about anything
[12:25] <caligarn1037> vlc is just plain magical
[12:25] <vircuser> can it play guitar too?
[12:25] <compwiz18> vircuser: no, sorry :(
[12:25] <tdawgedogg> k ill give it a try...but im worried about my processor...things didnt play well unless i used ffdshow or coreavc decord in windows
[12:25] <NthDegree> rhineheart_m: that is what mine has and may give you a clue.. gateway is your router IP and generally if you're 192.168.xxx.xxx then the netmask I have is correct
[12:25] <rhineheart_m> NthDegree: 	address <IP_ADDRESS> netmask <IP_ADDRESS>  network <IP_ADDRESS>  broadcast <IP_ADDRESS>  gateway <IP_ADDRESS>. Please explain the difference between address and network?
[12:25] <caligarn1037> tdawgedogg: good luck...
[12:25] <tdawgedogg> thanks
[12:26] <NthDegree> rhineheart_m: netmask? it's the subnet mask
[12:26] <NthDegree> rhineheart_m: you want auto eth0 or the like for the beginning
[12:26] <NthDegree> that is why it won't load on boot most likely
[12:26] <knappen> Hi ppl, i'm having trubble to print. After i installed the printer and i want to run test page i'll get this error: 19/Feb/2008:14:45:01 +0100] Unable to find IP address for server name "knappen-laptop"!
[12:26] <NthDegree> auto [interface] means to bring up the interface on boot
[12:27] <rhineheart_m> NthDegree: okay.. let
[12:27] <compwiz18> knappen: can you use the pastebin to put the contents of /etc/hosts up for us to see?
[12:27] <compwiz18> !pastebin | knappen
[12:27] <ubotu> knappen: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[12:28] <rhineheart_m> NthDegree: let's start from the beginning.... address is the local IP of the box. netmask is the subnet. how about the network? what is it?
[12:28] <NthDegree> network?
[12:29] <NthDegree> ah
[12:29] <NthDegree> inet static
[12:29] <NthDegree> iface [interface name] inet static
[12:29] <rhineheart_m> NthDegree: what is it? please explain...how would I determine the box' inet static?
[12:29] <knappen> compwiz18 Say what? :P
[12:30] <NthDegree> errr? :S
[12:30] <NthDegree> rhineheart_m: what do you mean by network?
[12:30] <SleepingSloth> is there any way of finding out what thread is using my upstream bandwidth (something along the same lines as top)
[12:30] <NthDegree> rhineheart_m: I figured you meant specifying the type of network connection
[12:30] <compwiz18> knappen: open /etc/hosts and put the output in the pastebin
[12:30] <rhineheart_m> NthDegree: I got it from this guide: http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/ubuntu/change-ubuntu-server-from-dhcp-to-a-static-ip-address/
[12:31] <compwiz18> knappen: you can run the command >cat /etc/hosts<
[12:31] <NthDegree> rhineheart_m: that line isn't needed (broadcast isn't needed either) but you can add it if you want to
[12:31] <njol>  i use mpeg2 tv-tuner to capture playstation 2 and only way for me to have no input device lag is to use mplayer to capture raw video instead of mpeg 2 stream, but i would like to use some GUI software, any ideas?
[12:32] <rhineheart_m> okay..please enumerate what I need to configure there...
[12:32] <NthDegree> you only need: auto, iface, address, netmask, gateway
[12:32] <knappen> Dealing with that l8r. g2g ^ ^
[12:33] <tdawgedogg> hey guys is pidgin the best aim client for ubuntu...i really like adium for osx i know pidgin is kinda related to that
[12:33] <NthDegree> the rest is optional in most cases if it's just for a basic network connection
[12:33] <xoqa> where are the locales located?
[12:33] <rhineheart_m> NthDegree: how about inet?
[12:33] <knappen> cat /etc/hosts
[12:33] <xoqa> my terminal doesn't recognize certain character encodings.
[12:33] <NthDegree> rhineheart_m: the iface line is the one with inet static in it
[12:34] <r3m0t> I have a crossplatform problem. I'm running Ubuntu and I have a 27G compressed ntfsclone image. I don't have enough space to store the decompressed image even if I delete the compressed version. I want to transfer all the files in the image to a new Macbook Pro. can anybody help?
[12:34] <levander> I see the "Shared Folders" dialog for making folders available to other computers for mounting over the network.  Is there no reciprocal dialog for taking an available network folder and mounting it on your computer?
[12:34] <r3m0t> levander: if you're using Gnome, Places->Network
[12:34] <tdawgedogg> hey guys is pidgin the best aim client for ubuntu...i really like adium for osx i know pidgin is kinda related to that
[12:35] <Slart> tdawgedogg: best means different things to different people
[12:35] <meekolope> r3m0t: how much space do u have on ure macbook? are u trying to clone the image to ure macbook and run xp on it? or just move the files to it in the form of a image file?
[12:35] <levander> tdawgedogg: don't know personally, pidgin is definitely the most popular, could search ubuntuforums for recommendations if you want to spend time testing other stuff
[12:35] <tdawgedogg> most popular i shall say! most supported or whatever
[12:35] <NthDegree> rhineheart_m: auto eth0 iface eth0 inet static address <IP_ADDRESS> netmask <IP_ADDRESS>  gateway <IP_ADDRESS>
[12:35] <NthDegree> rhineheart_m: try that
[12:35] <Slart> tdawgedogg: some people want a client that runs in a terminal and uses only jabber.. others want video conversations using msn and couldn't care less about jabber
[12:35] <tdawgedogg> ok thanks
[12:35] <rhineheart_m> NthDegree: please correct== auto eth0 iface eth0 inet static address <IP_ADDRESS> (box static IP)  netmask <IP_ADDRESS> (subnet)  network <IP_ADDRESS>  (box IP) gateway <IP_ADDRESS> (router ip)
[12:36] <levander> tdawgedogg: Yeah, pidgin is Ubuntu's default messaging client.  It's what they recommend you use.
[12:36] <Pici> Mez: He did call the ops himself:07:09:11 <?shaiful> !op
[12:36] <Pici> erg
[12:36] <Pici> Wrong window :o
[12:36] <NthDegree> rhineheart_m: network <IP_ADDRESS> (network range) <-- but that line is relatively pointless given what netmask's job is
[12:37] <cyphase> Is there a way to only update one repository with apt, instead of all of them?
[12:37] <r3m0t> meekolope: enough space to store the whole thing. what I want is, e.g., can I run ntfsclone on OS X to change the format of the image, can I run ntfsclone on the MBP running a Live CD which writes to the HFS+ partition... or what?
[12:37] <caligarn1037> tdawgedogg: or if you go to synaptic and type in chat...it might get you a nice healthy list of programs
[12:37] <rhineheart_m> NthDegree: what do I need to place there then? in network?
[12:37] <NthDegree> rhineheart_m: nothing, get rid of that line
[12:37] <tdawgedogg> oh good call
[12:37] <NthDegree> you don't need a "network" line for it to work
[12:37] <Trae> What's a way to make sure I don't have any kde stuff on my ubuntu system.  Every since I installed the kde desktop my machine has been running slow as poop.  I thought I removed some of it... but I think some things still linger
[12:38] <Trae> stuff like kthread and kblockd are running in top
[12:38] <rhineheart_m> NthDegree: THIS one? auto eth0 iface eth0 inet static address <IP_ADDRESS> (box static IP) netmask <IP_ADDRESS> (subnet) gateway <IP_ADDRESS> (router ip)
[12:38] <NthDegree> rhineheart_m: yep :)
[12:38] <NthDegree> try that
[12:38] <meekolope> r3m0t: im not sure about that, if it were a matter of just figuring out a transfer I would have some ideas
[12:38] <rhineheart_m> NthDegree: I will try it right now.. thanks.. I will update you if I got it to run..
[12:39] <NthDegree> rhineheart_m: once you've saved that file.. do an ifup eth0
[12:39] <wers> I already installed the murrine engine but the murrine themes still don't display well. they still look like mist. any suggestion? :)
[12:39] <NthDegree> then ping google.com
[12:39] <levander> r3m0t: I found the share in Places -> Network.  Now, where do I click to mount it?
[12:39] <r3m0t> right-click I believe
[12:39] <levander> r3m0t: It has to be a permanent mount.  It's a mythtv directory I want to share.
[12:39] <levander> r3m0t: right click -> Make a Link gives me a permission error.
[12:41] <swim_love> hi all: I have a single hard disk, without any partitions and I do have quite a amount of data on it, Can someone tell me how I can install ubuntu on this windows machine without loosing any of my windows data
[12:42] <Dr_willis> Hmm..if you have windows data on it.. you do have a partition.
[12:42] <faileas> swim_love: do you want to repartition it?
[12:42] <cef> anyone know why my alsa audio is all crackly? does it on 2 machines (one gutsy, one feisty). Pure OSS audio is fine. using aoss (from alsa-oss) is crackly. Using direct alsa is crackly. No shared interrupts (I checked).
[12:42] <levander> swim_love: YOu do have a partition.  YOu have a single large partition taking the entire disk.
[12:42] <deniz__> i used devede to burn perfectly working video files to dvd and there is no sound!!!
[12:42] <Dr_willis> Gparted can resize windows partitions  - freeing up some unallocated space at the end of the drive.. You can then install linux to.
[12:42] <rhineheart_m> NthDegree: got this message: Ignoring unknown interface etho=etho.
[12:42] <deniz__> i have a skool project due today and im alredy late to skool!
[12:42] <JonathanD> backup the drive first.
[12:42] <levander> swim_love: You need to resize that partition so that there's enough room at the end for a minimum of one partition for Linux.
[12:42] <JonathanD> I repeat, swim_love, backup the drive first.
[12:43] <NthDegree> rhineheart_m: try eth0 not etho
[12:43] <swim_love> faileas, I don't mind repartitioning it, but I want to be very sure that I don't loose any data on it
[12:43] <NthDegree> rhineheart_m: number not letter
[12:43] <JonathanD> swim_love: then backup the drive first.
[12:43] <JonathanD> :P
[12:43] <Slart> Dr_willis, levander: actually you *can* put data on a drive without a partition.. but you really have to work to make it happen.. and I'm not sure you can do it from windows =)
[12:43] <rhineheart_m> NthDegree: got this ifup: interface eth0 already configured
[12:43] <Dr_willis> swim_love,  hard drives coulddie at any time.. if the data in imporntant   then BACK IT UP. do it now.. do it anyway even if you are not installing anything. :)
[12:43] <jimmygoon> I need something I can specify at boot off the live disc to force ubuntu to mount my ntsc drive in my PC as READ ONLY... I'm encountering some weird HD issues and I want to backup some of my data
[12:43] <swim_love> levander, sure I can resize the partition: do you know of any freewares that can do this job
[12:43] <jimmygoon> but I can't have it written to
[12:43] <rilo> Soo, how can I enter extended ASCII given default keyboard settings for a US 105-key generic keyboard? It's actually a laptop keyboard and I would have to use Fn to simulate the keypad
[12:43] <faileas> swim_love: if your just experimenting, take a look at wubi, it installs linux in images inside your windows drive, and you can always repartition,and export it to a 'real' partition later
[12:43] <NthDegree> rhineheart_m: ifdown eth0 && ifup eth0
[12:43] <Slart> swim_love: if you want to be really really sure.. buy a new drive and put ubuntu on it..
[12:44] <NthDegree> may need to be sudo ifdown eth0 && sudo ifup eth0
[12:44] <Dr_willis> swim_love,  the gparted tool on many live cd's can do it.. and the ubuntu installer can autmaticially do it i belive.
[12:44] <NthDegree> (depends on if you're root or not)
[12:44] <levander> swim_love: I've never done it myself.  It's possible that the Ubuntu install process off the Live CD will let you resize.  But, I don't remember...
[12:44] <JonathanD> swim_love: but you should still.... backup the drive first.
[12:44] <swim_love> Dr_willis, ok so if thats the case then I could simplyuse the ubuntu installer itself and so what option do I seelect during the install time
[12:45] <rhineheart_m> NthDegree: after executing that command what will happen?
[12:45] <swim_love> JonathanD, ya thats fine
[12:45] <JonathanD> :p
[12:45] <jafa> just been hit by a kernel bug in .22 (Gutsy) that results in data corruption. The cifs client returns partial files from a samba share when the samba server is under high load. It looks like RedHat fixed the bug in the .23 kernel. What is the process for getting the fix into the Gutsy kernel?
[12:45] <Dr_willis> swim_love,  no idea. i always do it manually with a gparted live cd. Read the  Ubuntu installer docs would be a good idea.
[12:45] <Pici> !bug | jafa
[12:45] <ubotu> jafa: If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu  -  Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/ubuntu-bots
[12:45] <JonathanD> swim_love: I don't mean to be repetative ;) but it's an oft-ignored thing... ignored, that is, until they come back here and scream "I lost all my data!!"
[12:45] <NthDegree> rhineheart_m: it reconfigures eth0 to the new settings
[12:45] <Dr_willis> I belive the installer has a 'resize and use free space' option
[12:45] <NthDegree> rhineheart_m: after that see if ping google.com works
[12:46] <rhineheart_m> NthDegree: I executed it already and it gives me the messages DONE
[12:46] <swim_love> yes JonathanD, I really understand what you mentioned: and I think thats very important too
[12:46] <swim_love> Dr_willis, ok, I will try that
[12:46] <NthDegree> rhineheart_m: okay try ping google.com
[12:46] <NthDegree> see what happens
[12:47] <randompolygamy> Any one here running Aptana? i need some install help
[12:47] <SleepingSloth> randompolygamy,  i was, but i doubt i'd be any help
[12:47] <randompolygamy> SleepingSloth, did u have it running properly?
[12:49] <SleepingSloth> randompolygamy, well... i believe so
[12:49] <SpacePilot> Is there a reason why a 500GB harddrive, that is newvle formatted, should only show 381.2GB of free space?
[12:49] <SleepingSloth> randompolygamy, i have a feeling i somehow borked it later though
[12:49] <randompolygamy> well, did you have to install any dependacies?
[12:49] <SleepingSloth> randompolygamy, none
[12:50] <randompolygamy> hmmm...
[12:50] <Dr_willis> SpacePilot,  5% is reserved for root user ussage/lost+found - thats tuneble with the tune2fs command.
[12:50] <Dr_willis> SpacePilot,  rest could be rounding error. :)
[12:50] <SleepingSloth> randompolygamy, what is the problem you're having?
[12:50] <SleepingSloth> randompolygamy, i take that back - i still have it installed, and yes it is working
[12:51] <randompolygamy> http://pastebin.com/m71797c7e
[12:51] <SleepingSloth> randompolygamy,  must have been thinking of another eclipse plugin...
[12:51] <randompolygamy> it appears i dont have the eclipse dpendacies..
[12:51] <randompolygamy> im running gutsy gobuntu
[12:51] <SleepingSloth> randompolygamy, ah yes, i remember... i did have to get 'alternative' java files
[12:51] <rhineheart_m> NthDegree: Thanks! It works..
[12:51] <damaltor> hello everybody... since today, i have no sound in kubuntu (gutsy). while i watched a film yesterday (with sound) and then opened it in kdenlive to cut out the ads,i noticed that all clips were w/o sound. in the console output there was something like, no sound device found. so i went to bed, shut down the computer in hope that everything will be okay again today. but now, there is no sound at all - no mp3 playback, no movie sound, no syst
[12:51] <damaltor> em sound... none. if i try to play something in mplayer, it immediately freezes and hast du be killed via killall (then says something like, terminated in "play_sound"). what now? :(
[12:52] <Frogzoo> Dr_willis: you're best to leave the 5% well alone
[12:52] <NthDegree> rhineheart_m: you're the one that did all the work :) enjoy
[12:52] <Dr_willis> Frogzoo,  I dont worry about it. :) and yes i do set it to 1% - but i also have backups of my.. err..  vacation videos..
[12:53] <Dr_willis> of course if my HD is gettting 95% full.. its time for me to go get a bigger hd.
[12:53] <ideasman_42> hiffy, Im interested in making ubuntu systems more responsive
[12:53] <rhineheart_m> NthDegree: can you point me a link which would instruct me on how to configure squirrelmail correctly?
[12:53] <randompolygamy> SleepingSloth, care to take this to a pm?
[12:53] <SpacePilot> Anyone feel like helping me a little with the tune2fs command?
[12:53] <SleepingSloth> randompolygamy, sure
[12:54] <damaltor> SpacePilot: what do you want to so?
[12:54] <damaltor> *do
[12:54] <SpacePilot> I want to be able to use the maximum amount of my 500GB harddrive, or atleast just as much as I could use under windows.
[12:54] <NthDegree> rhineheart_m: unfortunately I don't know of any, the ubuntu forums are the best place to find info on things like that
[12:55] <damaltor> SpacePilot: how much did u use in win?
[12:55] <rhineheart_m> NthDegree: Thanks.. Do I need to edit /etc/resolv.conf?
[12:55] <rinaldi_> hi what do i need to add to menu.lst in grub in order to add my vista hard drive (200gb one) here's my fdisk -l   http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/56741/   thanks
[12:55] <SpacePilot> I am not sure exactly how much of a 500GB harddrive is used under windows, but it is more than 381GB.
[12:56] <damaltor> SpacePilot: ok... did you try to open the hdd in fdisk?
[12:56] <zaggy-nl> whoa, 1206 people
[12:58] <damaltor> hello everybody... since today, i have no sound in kubuntu (gutsy). while i watched a film yesterday (with sound) and then opened it in kdenlive to cut out the ads,i noticed that all clips were w/o sound. in the console output there was something like, no sound device found. so i went to bed, shut down the computer in hope that everything will be okay again today. but now, there is no sound at all - no mp3 playback, no movie sound, no syst
[12:58] <damaltor> em sound... none. if i try to play something in mplayer, it immediately freezes and hast du be killed via killall (then says something like, terminated in "play_sound"). what now? :(
[12:58] <ideasman_42> Is there some way to use hdparm with sata
[12:58] <ideasman_42> setting DMA and 32bit access fail, and Im using a new system
[12:58] <ideasman_42> hdparm -c1 -d1 /dev/sda
[12:59] <ideasman_42> used to work years ago for almost any hard disk over 10gig
[12:59] <ideasman_42> now on sata disk its reporting 16bit no DMA access
[12:59] <Tyczek> ideasman_42, i have the same report
[12:59] <Tyczek> but I don't think it worse performance
[13:00] <ideasman_42> Tyczek, were running ubuntu in the Blender3D institute
[13:00] <ideasman_42> and just discussing why our systems seem slow
[13:00] <Tyczek> ideasman_42, oh...
[13:00] <SpacePilot> Ok, I opened the disk with fdisk, and it says the disk is 500GB, but then something about "Partition 1 does not end on cylinder boundary." Then "Partition 2...", "Partition 3...", "Partition¤....". That disc ain't partitioned either.
[13:01] <Tyczek> maybe somebody knows solution?
[13:01] <kaushal> hi
[13:01] <ideasman_42> It wen they swap the systems get really slow. even when there is a lot of ram free
[13:01] <zaggy-nl> Anyone knows if ubuntu supports the creative x-fi extreme gamer soundcard?
[13:01] <kaushal> I have installed apache2-src using synaptic where can i find it
[13:01] <ideasman_42> (The disk access seems to make the system lag)
[13:02] <Tyczek> ideasman_42, if you solve this problem, can you tell me how to? It would be great to check it :)
[13:02] <NthDegree> rhineheart_m: check it and look for some nameserver lines
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[13:02] <lolfrenz> kaushal, try /usr/src
[13:02] <frold> Best CD/DVD burner tool?
[13:02] <NthDegree> rhineheart_m: you may wish to change the top one to the IP of your router, to simplify DNS
[13:02] <zaggy-nl> k3b
[13:03] <zaggy-nl> frold, ^
[13:03] <lolfrenz> kaushal, try /usr/src and /usr/local/src
[13:03] <randompolygamy> SleepingSloth, Register to nickserver so we can pm
[13:03] <kaushal> ok
[13:03] <frold> zaggy-nl: ?
[13:03] <zaggy-nl> frold, k3b is one of the better cd/dvd burning tools I've used
[13:03] <jimmygoon> I need something I can specify at boot off the live disc to force ubuntu to mount my ntsc drive in my PC as READ ONLY... I'm encountering some weird HD issues and I want to backup some of my data
[13:03] <Tyczek> ideasman_42, i red something... want you hear?
[13:03] <frold> zaggy-nl: can it handle DVDs?
[13:03] <zaggy-nl> Sure thing
[13:04] <ideasman_42> Tyczek, yea?
[13:04] <Tyczek> HDPARM shouldn't be use with Satas... so basically this problem doesn't exist
[13:04] <zaggy-nl> I've burned DVD video disks with it
[13:04] <Tyczek> They say in forum
[13:04] <kaushal> lolfrenz: it isnt there
[13:04] <zaggy-nl> hmm, so what do you use for sata disks then?
[13:04] <randompolygamy> Trying to get Aptana Working properly having issues with java/eclipse  Check my paste bin >>>  http://pastebin.com/m71797c7e
[13:05] <frold> zaggy-nl:  im installling it right now!
[13:05] <zaggy-nl> okay
[13:05] <rhineheart_m> NthDegree: There are two entries there already.. What I need to modify to <IP_ADDRESS> and why?
[13:06] <kaushal> lolfrenz: you there
[13:06] <randompolygamy> Trying to get Aptana Working properly having issues with java/eclipse  >>><< Gobuntu Gutsy >>><< Check my paste bin >>>  http://pastebin.com/m71797c7e
[13:08] <rinaldi_> hi i just plugged a vista hard drive on sata into my pc. how can i add it to the grub menu in menu.lst?
[13:08] <Pici> randompolygamy: What version of java are you using?
[13:08] <Pici> randompolygamy: sudo update-alternatives --config java
[13:11] <rhineheart_m> NthDegree: I rebooted the box.. I can't access it anymore through ssh.... I didn't modified the /etc/resolv.conf
[13:11] <GSK> hi everybody
[13:11] <toblerone> hi rhineheart_m, try running your ssh daemon again
[13:11] <toblerone> :)
[13:11] <teliti> Hello! I'm searching a WallPaper which is used in Ubuntu-7.10 but I'm not using ubuntu! Where can I find the WallPapers which are used by gnome in ubunut?
[13:11] <GSK> someone can help me on vmware ?
[13:11] <Stagger> !it
[13:11] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[13:11] <frold> where to read more about the comming release 8.04? Release deadlines and progress and what it includes...
[13:12] <GSK> i have a problem with the bridged mode
[13:12] <NthDegree> rhineheart_m: okay change /etc/resolv.conf so you have a line nameserver <IP_ADDRESS>
[13:12] <NthDegree> <IP_ADDRESS> being your router IP
[13:12] <kaushal> hi again
[13:12] <NthDegree> and toblerone is likely correct, OpenSSH doesn't depend 100% on DNS
[13:12] <kaushal> can anyone here tell me where is the path to apache2-src in ubuntu 7.04
[13:13] <rhineheart_m> NthDegree: sorry for the wrong info.. I was able to connect.. connection problem I guess.. Please advise me now.. do I need to change the /etc/resolv.conf?
[13:13] <NthDegree> kaushal: why not find / | grep apache2-src
[13:13] <kaushal> when i run find / -name "apache2-src" -print
[13:13] <NthDegree> rhineheart_m: look at it and add a line like this to the beginning:
[13:13] <kaushal> i get /usr/share/doc/apache2-src
[13:13] <NthDegree> nameserver <IP_ADDRESS>
[13:14] <NthDegree> rhineheart_m: any other lines should point to valid domain name servers =]
[13:14] <NthDegree> and if that is the case you're all sorted
[13:14] <Fragmagnet20> hellp
[13:14] <rhineheart_m> NthDegree:  box static is <IP_ADDRESS>... why <IP_ADDRESS>?
[13:14] <Stavros1> how can i cat something from stdin?
[13:15] <SiNi> hey
[13:15] <NthDegree> rhineheart_m: it is the IP of your router you want
[13:15] <SiNi> i am new here lol
[13:15] <NthDegree> rhineheart_m: the gateway IP is the one you want as the first nameserver line
[13:15] <rhineheart_m> NthDegree: so you mean..I will then use <IP_ADDRESS>?
[13:15] <SiNi> exit
[13:16] <NthDegree> rhineheart_m: whatever your gateway IP is what you put as the first nameserver line
[13:16] <teliti> Could someone please tell my the name of a WallPaper which is used in Ubuntu? It shows dry earth. Its in the official Ubuntu 7.10 install CD
[13:16] <Stagger> hell, I cannot import mpc files into rhythmbox. I have the codec (i can play mpc's in totem or vlc), buti cant seem to be able to add those files to rhythmbox. any suggestions?
[13:16] <NthDegree> then two after that for your ISPs known primary and secondary DNS servers
[13:17] <rhineheart_m> NthDegree: I have an account in zoneedit. Can I use it also here? I have domain currently pointed to my static ip.
[13:18] <Stavros> how can i cat multiple lines?
[13:19] <arekkusu> Stagger: VLC has it's own codec buil-in so it mean nothing. I am surprised it plays in totem and not rhythmbox though
[13:19] <NthDegree> rhineheart_m: what do you mean?
[13:19] <arekkusu> Stagge: I have got a lot of MPC imported in mine... had no problem musst be something missing (?!)
[13:19] <teliti> Where can I find the source to ubuntu?
[13:20] <NthDegree> /etc/resolv.conf is for resolving domains, not specifying what IP they are
[13:20] <NthDegree> /etc/hosts will let you specify IP to name mappings
[13:20] <dam_> hello everyone I have some problems with amsn it won't start it just goes away why ??
[13:20] <NthDegree> @ rhineheart_m
[13:20] <NthDegree> dam_: run it in a console
[13:20] <NthDegree> console/konsole/gnome-terminal
[13:20] <dam_> how ?
[13:21] <NthDegree> dam_: open up a terminal and type amsn
[13:21] <rhineheart_m> NthDegree: I have domain registered. M using zoneedit.com to point my domain nameservers to my static ip.
[13:21] <dam_> wish8.5: error while loading shared libraries: libtcl8.5.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[13:21] <toblerone> waaaahhh
[13:21] <NthDegree> dam_: now you know the problem.. install tcl libraries
[13:21] <toblerone> this is chaos.. there's too many people trying to explain and asked at the same time
[13:22] <Colossus73> hi
[13:22] <calgot> I have a question regarding Kinesis keyboards and international layouts in ubuntu - am I in the right place? :)
[13:23] <Colossus73> according to what I read here:http://www.gimp.org/release-notes/gimp-2.4.html the print option should be in the file menu and leading to a window allowing print preview and print WITHOUT gutenprint
[13:23] <arekkusu> calgot: Go ahead you can always ask :)
[13:23] <Colossus73> but in the gimp ubuntu package there is no print option
[13:23] <GSK> nobody for vmware ?
[13:23] <music`freak> hi guys
[13:23] <teliti> toblerone: *g*
[13:23] <music`freak> I need help with configuring my display in Ubuntu
[13:23] <Colossus73> I don't want to install gutenprint because the 2.4 has native print facility
[13:23] <Colossus73> can anyone share light on this?
[13:23] <calgot> Well I can't use my AltGr key at all, I normally use it to get "at" sign etc but AltGr-2 just zooms in my window
[13:24] <dam_> where do I get that library ?
[13:24] <calgot> Keyboard shortcuts indicates my AltGr is Super_R, if that's any help
[13:24] <calgot> I'd really like my at-sign, it's kinda useful ;)
[13:24] <music`freak> anyone using Intel 845G chipset/mb?
[13:24] <arekkusu> calgot: Ok... that's strange for sure
[13:25] <calgot> Uhm and also, i'm on a mac mini...
[13:25] <toblerone> why music`freak?
[13:25] <cicero_b> i forgot to run the process in the background -- anyone know how to fix my mistake (?), i hit ^z now it is stopped . . .
[13:25] <GSK> problem with bridged mode
[13:25] <music`freak> i'm having trouble with my display toblerone
[13:25] <cicero_b> do i have to kill my xterm
[13:25] <calgot> cicero_b, just type 'bg'
[13:25] <Dr_willis> cicero_b,  use the bg command
[13:25] <toblerone> pardon me, but why does a mac user wants to use ubuntu? im not saying that dont use ubuntu, its kinda weird with OSX is also nice and stable :)
[13:25] <Laney_Family> hello everyone
[13:25] <Dr_willis> google for bash job controll to learn more. :)
[13:25] <music`freak> many times i'm unable to login to my desktop from the main screen
[13:25] <cicero_b> bg job number, or just bg
[13:25] <music`freak> all i get is a blank screen
[13:26] <Dr_willis> toblerone,  i disagree with the nice and stable part. :)
[13:26] <music`freak> and some times it works fine
[13:26] <music`freak> so its kinda frustrating
[13:26] <Laney_Family> i have a couple more dumb Q for you guys,
[13:26] <CyaNox> Heya anybody experience in setting up an conceptronic usb wireless thingy. Its afaik a RaLink rt2570 one.
[13:27] <arekkusu> calgot: I don't have much idea for your problem... remapping the keyboard maybe but you shouldn't have to do that
[13:27] <tickler> hi
[13:27] <toblerone> ok Dr_willis, i assume your another ubuntu zealot :P
[13:27] <music`freak> How do i know if i have the right display driver installed toblerone?
[13:27] <tickler> ubuntu is tha bomb
[13:27] <rhineheart_m> NthDegree: I have domain registered. M using zoneedit.com to point my domain nameservers to my static ip.
[13:27] <Laney_Family> anyone know how to setup remote desktop on ubuntu 7.10
[13:27] <Dr_willis> toblerone,  more of a person thats watched/used/been #$&@&@& by apple too many times in the years...
[13:27] <calgot> Seems the problem really is that my AltGr is Super_R... silly international keyboards, right
[13:28] <Dr_willis> toblerone,  and you dont want to get me started on this discussion. :)
[13:28] <toblerone> hahaha
[13:28] <toblerone> not really
[13:28] <toblerone> im neutral :)
[13:28] <music`freak> ??
[13:28] <Dr_willis> in short they go 'we are the best.. we just dont want to actually sell a lotof things.. that would hurt our elite image' :)
[13:28] <tickler> ubuntu is great because of ease of use and simplicity
[13:28] <toblerone> hehehehe
[13:28] <toblerone> ok
[13:28] <toblerone> this is nicier.. linux talk
[13:28] <toblerone> :P
[13:29] <zaggy-nl> now if only my xfi extremegamer soundcard was supported, I'd use it
[13:29]  * zaggy-nl shakes fist at creative
[13:29] <faileas> Laney_Family: specifically RDP or just any form of remote desktop?
[13:29] <music`freak> i wish i'd feel the same way
[13:29] <Laney_Family> RDP
[13:29] <faileas> then i have no idea
[13:29] <Laney_Family> i ahve enabled it in the system menu
[13:29] <tickler> I have ubuntu works fineon my acer laptop and it
[13:29] <cliebow> toblerone, you can always start your own channel when you find someone you want to converse with..
[13:30] <music`freak> is there any channal where i can get my display related queries answered?
[13:30] <Laney_Family> when i try from windows with RDP via IP its a nogo
[13:30] <tickler> my wireless works great
[13:30] <faileas> ahh
[13:30]  * faileas thinks its a RDP client not a server isn't it?
[13:30] <tickler> only thing is i can't get my acer orbi cam working because it uses bison driver
[13:30] <faileas> i might be wrong, i usually go for freenx for remoting
[13:31] <Laney_Family> freenx?
[13:31] <calgot> well back to os-x then, hmm
[13:31] <music`freak> prince_jammys:  u around mate?
[13:32] <Colossus73> join #ubuntu-devel
[13:32] <music`freak> bah
[13:32] <Laney_Family> any other ideas?
[13:33] <AliTarihi> Has anyone installed Looking Glass?
[13:33] <prince_jammys> music`freak: yeag
[13:33] <prince_jammys> h
[13:33] <AliTarihi> Looking Glass*
[13:33] <faileas> !freenx | Laney_Family
[13:33] <ubotu> Laney_Family: FreeNX is advanced remote desktop technology. For more information and install instructions, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeNX
[13:33] <cicero_b> hey, when i am in a 'more' window, how i do search (or go the top)
[13:33] <music`freak> prince_jammys:  i need help with configuring my display
[13:33] <prince_jammys> music`freak: mmm this is something i'm not very good at, but what's the problem
[13:33] <faileas> Laney_Family: i seem to think it does RDP as well
[13:34] <AliTarihi> any idea?
[13:34] <music`freak> having trouble with my display
[13:34] <Laney_Family> so... i install it on both my vista rig and ubuntu? or just ubuntu
[13:35] <music`freak> many a times when i log in from the main screen i end up with a blank screen
[13:35] <ridnowan> Any 1 know how to install kde from kubuntu cd
[13:35] <music`freak> & end up doing a hard reboot
[13:35] <music`freak> even ctr+alt+backspace doesn't work
[13:35] <faileas> Laney_Family: one moment, i'll check. you can install the server on ubuntu, and the client runs on windows (and does both RDP and nx)
[13:35] <cicero_b> hey, anyone know how to search when using the 'more' command
[13:35] <zaggy-nl> cicero_b, uh, how do you mean search?
[13:35] <cliebow> music`freak, and i suppose youve donedpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[13:35] <faileas> windows RDP server to linux client,no idea
[13:36] <cicero_b> zaggy-nl: say i want to find a term in a man-page . . .
[13:36] <zaggy-nl> cicero_b, it's just a screen by screen split up of the output as far as I know
[13:36] <music`freak> yeah i tried that after reading something from a forum
[13:36] <cicero_b> yeah -- i remember before hitting 's' or something that helped me search
[13:36] <cicero_b> also, remember i could scroll to the top
[13:37] <zaggy-nl> I don't think man and more have to do with each other
[13:37] <prince_jammys> cicero_b: i think   /
[13:37] <NthDegree> rhineheart_m: you are running a named on your system?
[13:38] <NthDegree> rhineheart_m: or do you mean the A record points to your IP?
[13:38] <cicero_b> yep -- thanks
[13:38] <prince_jammys> cicero_b: i think / also works with less
[13:38] <rhineheart_m> NthDegree: named? how to check it?
[13:40] <abuyazan> hello
[13:40] <NthDegree> rhineheart_m: /etc/resolv.conf is for you resolving domain names like google.com.. unless you have bind or another form of named running on your system then nameserver should be set to your ISPs DNS servers and your router's IP
[13:40] <tickler> deez nutz
[13:41] <abuyazan> i had a real IP Address on my machine, i replaced it with virtual one by running ifconfig new ip and change the default route
[13:41] <Laney_Family> soo....
[13:41] <abuyazan> but still i can ping the old IP
[13:41] <damaltor> hello everybody... since today, i have no sound in kubuntu (gutsy). while i watched a film yesterday (with sound) and then opened it in kdenlive to cut out the ads,i noticed that all clips were w/o sound. in the console output there was something like, no sound device found. so i went to bed, shut down the computer in hope that everything will be okay again today. but now, there is no sound at all - no mp3 playback, no movie sound, no syst
[13:41] <damaltor> em sound... none. if i try to play something in mplayer, it immediately freezes and hast du be killed via killall (then says something like, terminated in "play_sound"). what now? :(
[13:41] <abuyazan> and when i do trace to some network it goes through the old one
[13:41] <tickler> Just reinstall it
[13:41] <NthDegree> damaltor: tried cleaning out /tmp ?
[13:42] <abuyazan> is there a cache that i can delete it ?
[13:42] <damaltor> NthDegree: just a sec, woth a try
[13:42] <rhineheart_m> NthDegree: I have bind DNS server version 9... what should I need to configure?
[13:42] <damaltor> NthDegree: have to logout and in, no?
[13:42] <NthDegree> damaltor: reboot
[13:43] <damaltor> kk
[13:43] <NthDegree> after cleaning out /tmp as root with rm -rf /tmp/* you should reboot
[13:43] <damaltor> ok
[13:43] <NthDegree> then if that still fails.. boot an older kernel, it could be a kernel bug
[13:44] <IndyGunFreak> why would a full /tmp effect his sound?
[13:44] <Pici> /tmp is cleared on each boot...
[13:44] <IndyGunFreak> thast what i thought
[13:45] <_Oz_> argh
[13:45] <sint> hey, i have lots of zip files and i want to unzip them into directories with the name of the zip file. is there a command to do this in one step?
[13:45] <_Oz_> I n d y G u n F r e a k
[13:45] <NthDegree> Pici: not always
[13:45] <IndyGunFreak> _Oz_: yo.
[13:45] <NthDegree> that depends on settings in init scripts usually
[13:45] <IndyGunFreak> still doesn't really explain how a full tmp would effect sound.
[13:45] <NthDegree> IndyGunFreak: it does if you use PulseAudio or ESD
[13:46] <IndyGunFreak> i guess...
[13:46] <floppy-shuriken> so ubuntu is the distro that "older" linux users use when they get tired of configure the system, and just want to do some real work? :)
[13:46] <white_eagle> hello!
[13:46] <deniz__> any1 here no how to combine multiple video files into 1 on KDENLIVE?
[13:46] <NthDegree> floppy-shuriken: in my case yeah
[13:46] <faileas> floppy-shuriken: a little of both ;p
[13:46] <rhineheart_m> NthDegree: I have bind DNS server version 9... what should I need to configure?
[13:46] <floppy-shuriken> all my linux gurus use ubuntu, I can't believe it, I have to find out why
[13:46] <IndyGunFreak> floppy-shuriken: are you asking if its easy to use?.. if thats the case, yes
[13:46] <NthDegree> rhineheart_m: you want the first line in /etc/resolv.conf to be nameserver <IP_ADDRESS>
[13:46] <sint> for example: bla.zip into bla and stuff.zip into stuff. they are all in one directory, but they are all separate zip files.
[13:47] <NthDegree> then the second line as nameserver <IP_ADDRESS> (or whatever your router IP is)
[13:47] <NthDegree> then 2 more lines for ISP Primary and Secondary nameservers
[13:47] <K-Ton> floppy-shuriken : i think this distro is the most usable
[13:48] <floppy-shuriken> how big is the default installation?
[13:48] <NthDegree> floppy-shuriken: it has the second least amount of security (Slackware is least secure), but is reasonably easy to use...
[13:48] <white_eagle> hello
[13:48] <damaltor> NthDegree: worked... 0o tried few solutions from the net before, think i f_cked up more then i won... but clearing /tmp did the trick
[13:48] <damaltor> thx a lot
[13:48] <NthDegree> =]
[13:48] <white_eagle> ;)
[13:48] <IndyGunFreak> floppy-shuriken: minimum hard drive space, you'll probably want 3-4gigs...
[13:48] <zaggy-nl> NthDegree, how is the security of a distro determined?
[13:48] <white_eagle> floppy-shuriken: 10 gigs
[13:48] <NthDegree> zaggy-nl: proactive security and default config
[13:48] <IndyGunFreak> floppy-shuriken: but i'd recommend at least 10gigs
[13:48] <white_eagle> is recommended
[13:48] <NthDegree> Ubuntu has a brilliant default config
[13:48] <zaggy-nl> ah
[13:48] <EbilPhish> If you want excessive security then you probably want OpenBSD, and one in a virtual machine for each service
[13:49] <NthDegree> but sucks in the proactive security department
[13:49] <IndyGunFreak> white_eagle: 10gigs is recommended?.. where have you saw that.
[13:49] <floppy-shuriken> I thought the sudo thing made the computer more secure
[13:49] <_Oz_> Nthdegree: it's good...  maybe not BRILLIANT, but good.
[13:49] <NthDegree> EbilPhish: no you don't
[13:49] <floppy-shuriken> the root account is inactive
[13:49] <_Oz_> floppy: it does, more or less, because the root password is locked away.
[13:49] <white_eagle> IndyGunFreak: ;) from me
[13:49] <white_eagle> I guess for begginners its the best
[13:49] <IndyGunFreak> white_eagle: well, thast incorrect..
[13:49] <x3on> I used ubuntu for quite a long time but got fed up with the bugginess of it so moved to another distro. I almost came back to it but am wary of bloat. I gave Linux Mint a go and its great so far. Everything works perfectly after install, especially Wireless/Network manager icon and media codecs etc. Is this the same for the current release of Ubyutnu? because if i can have those same conveniences as mint, then Ill use ubuntu instead
[13:49] <IndyGunFreak> don't spread bad info white_eagle
[13:49] <damaltor> NthDegree: well.. woked partially. movies/mp3/... do well, but no system sounds. knotify asked my on this startup is i wnat do enable some other sound output, was to fas t so i klicked yes... could that be the error?
[13:49] <white_eagle> ok
[13:50] <_Oz_> Ubuntu's not too bloated, and it's pretty darn stable now, x3on.
[13:50] <white_eagle> I won't IndyGunFreak
[13:50] <IndyGunFreak> floppy-shuriken: its not really inactive, Ubuntu just uses root differently than most linux distros
[13:50] <_Oz_> Is Mint a free distro?
[13:50] <NthDegree> _Oz_: most distros compile with -D_FORTIFY_SOURCE=2, -fPIE and use either PaX or ExecShield
[13:50] <IndyGunFreak> !sudo | floppy-shuriken
[13:50] <ubotu> floppy-shuriken: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for more information.
[13:50] <cliebow> _Oz_, yep
[13:50] <x3on> No idea Oz... free as in price, yeh
[13:50] <white_eagle> floppy-shuriken: and you know what is cool? that you don't need to defragment the disk
[13:50] <white_eagle> ever
[13:50] <Timmy> is this the room where you guys talk about computer?
[13:50] <EbilPhish> x3on:  I think Mint is just a repackaged Ubuntu but with the codecs installed, the newer Ubuntu has automatic codec installation
[13:50] <K-Ton> x3on : wireless works me fine by default, but had to download codecs
[13:50] <NthDegree> _Oz_: that's why I think Ubuntu isn't that great in the security department.. and i'm not even sure if Ubuntu linkes with -z relro or not :(
[13:51] <x3on> Im really impressed at the post installation usability though... i didnt have to do anything
[13:51] <white_eagle> linux manages free space great, where win fails
[13:51] <_Oz_> Yeah, Mint seems VERY similar to Ubuntu.
[13:51] <floppy-shuriken> well, I use linux, arch linux to be more specific. I build my system from a set of core packages
[13:51] <white_eagle> !mint
[13:51] <ubotu> The following are some examples of Ubuntu derived distributions that we cannot provide support for due to repository and software changes, please consult their websites for more information: gNewSense (support in #gnewsense), Linux Mint (support in #linuxmint), LinuxMCE (support in #linuxmce), Ubuntu Ultimate
[13:51] <_Oz_> nthdegree: actually it's excellent in the security dept.
[13:51] <_Oz_> Try to find someone here who has virus or security problems with Ubuntu
[13:51] <_Oz_> bet you can't find one
[13:51] <IndyGunFreak> EbilPhish: _Oz_ Mint is very similar to Ubuntu, but the GUI is a bit different, but can easily be swapped out o look like a regular gnome interface
[13:51] <_Oz_> those problems are virtually nonexistent with Ubuntu.
[13:51] <faileas> NthDegree: care to back that statement up? '[
[13:51] <faileas> ;p
[13:51] <NthDegree> white_eagle: yes you do.. another misconception.. you just don't need to do it that often, ext4 plans to bring in "Online Defragmentation" as a new feature for that reason :P
[13:52] <floppy-shuriken> but what so great about pclinuxos, how come it's more popular on distrowatch? :)
[13:52] <_Oz_> Is Mint considered a lightweight OS like Xubuntu or is it sorta heavy?
[13:52] <x3on> Is Networkmanager installed and enabled by default in Ubuntu?
[13:52] <Timmy> anyone knows why can't i play DVD on my laptop?
[13:52] <x3on> i tried configuring that thing by hand so many times and failed
[13:52] <dgjones> !dvd | Timmy
[13:52] <ubotu> Timmy: For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at !Medibuntu or (for Feisty and earlier) http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[13:52] <x3on> awesome to see it working perfectly in mint
[13:52] <IndyGunFreak> _Oz_: not really heavy, but its Gnome....
[13:52] <white_eagle> NthDegree: but there was a place where I saw that linux doesn't need defragmenting
[13:52] <Andreysen> Hello, I'm trying to install Ubuntu 7 on my Laptop at the moment. When I boot with the downloaded CD the startup screen pops up but the loading bar in the beginning freezes and I have to switch off the Laptop physically. Any ideas??
[13:52] <_Oz_> would it run roughly the same as Ubuntu?
[13:52] <damaltor> NthDegree: well.. woked partially. movies/mp3/... do well, but no system sounds. knotify asked my on this startup is i wnat do enable some other sound output, was to fas t so i klicked yes... could that be the error?
[13:52] <white_eagle> i think it was whylinuxisbetter.net
[13:53] <IndyGunFreak> _Oz_: yes, most likely
[13:53] <NthDegree> white_eagle: that's a half-truth
[13:53] <_Oz_> It really just looks like a wrapper for Ubuntu
[13:53] <NthDegree> it handles fragmentation better but lacks the ability to defrag properly
[13:53] <_Oz_> I see almost nothing that Ubuntu doesn't already do
[13:53] <white_eagle> NthDegree: thanks for that
[13:53] <Timmy> thank you jones
[13:53] <_Oz_> What's one advantage of Mint over Ubuntu?
[13:53] <compwiz18> mint has more stuff preinstalled, like codecs
[13:53] <Timmy> can someone tell me what is ubuntu? @_@
[13:53] <white_eagle> _Oz_: its all about a peoples will
[13:53] <NthDegree> faileas: I can't see any place that shows what proactive features Ubuntu uses at the moment
[13:53] <Pici> !ubuntu | Timmy
[13:53] <ubotu> Timmy: Ubuntu is a complete Linux-based operating system, freely available with both community and professional support. It is developed by a large community and we invite you to participate too! - Also see http://www.ubuntu.com
[13:54] <NthDegree> faileas: since hardened ubuntu keep asking for the things I mentioned every release i'll assume they're not in use yet
[13:54] <Timmy> oooh
[13:54] <white_eagle> if anyone needs direct rendering with ati ---> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=589637
[13:54] <_Oz_> But why go with Mint?  It's one of those tangential spinoffs and not supported nearly as well as Ubuntu.  Seems your best bet these days for a Linux distro is Ubuntu or one of its flavors.  They're all supported.
[13:54] <Timmy> linux OS?
[13:54] <NthDegree> faileas: but I do thing the default config rocks! ^.^
[13:54] <Pici> Timmy: yes, Linux.
[13:54] <Timmy> the penguin symbol?
[13:54] <K-Ton> do you know what BSD distro is the best (easy to use) for a beginner?
[13:54] <damaltor> NthDegree: well.. woked partially. movies/mp3/... do well, but no system sounds. as said, knotify made me anable some other sound output. but now, kopete still has no sound while in system settings the "test sound system" button does well. any new idea? =)
[13:54] <IndyGunFreak> Timmy: do some google searching for Linux...
[13:54] <clemyeats> _Oz_: http://linuxmint.com/pub/Daryna_User_Guide-4.1.pdf (goes through specificities of Mint)
[13:54] <white_eagle> K-Ton: which
[13:54] <Alex> K-Ton: Try a BSD channel? :)
[13:54] <faileas> K-Ton: pc bsd
[13:54] <Timmy> I heard many people say linux suxk
[13:54] <Pici> !linux | Timmy
[13:54] <ubotu> Timmy: Linux is the kernel (core) of the Ubuntu operating system. Many operating systems use Linux as kernel. For more information on Linux in general, visit http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux
[13:55] <NthDegree> damaltor: look at aRts
[13:55] <_Oz_> thank you, clemyeats.
[13:55] <K-Ton> thanks white_eagle & faileas
[13:55] <damaltor> NthDegree: yeah that was what knotify asked me to activate
[13:55] <Pici> Mint is offtopic for this channel. Please move discussion elsewhere, thanks.
[13:55] <faileas> NthDegree: yeah it does, and new things work all the time ;p
[13:55] <Timmy> like whats the difference between linux OS and regular OS ?
[13:55] <damaltor> NthDegree: so how can i configure/change that again?
[13:55] <Pici> Timmy: Read the link that Ubotu gave you, it should explain things better than we can.
[13:55] <white_eagle> Timmy: see the wikipedia page for linux please
[13:56] <NthDegree> K Menu > System Settings > Sound System
[13:56] <NthDegree> @ damaltor
[13:56] <_Oz_> Yeah, Mint appears to be a watered-down Ubuntu.  Nothing to see here.
[13:56] <_Oz_> Stick with Ubuntu, folks.
[13:56] <EbilPhish> Linux is a 'regular' OS
[13:56] <_Oz_> Timmy: Linux is open source.
[13:56] <NthDegree> faileas: it's the proactive security thing that made me use Fedora and/or CentOS for the last two years or so >.>
[13:56] <faileas> ubuntu+medibuntu+winehq wine pretty much covers it for me
[13:56] <Timmy> many people doesnt consider it regular os
[13:56] <damaltor> NthDegree: that works fine, there is a test button and i hear a melody...
[13:56] <Stagger> !it
[13:56] <_Oz_> Timmy: If by "regular" OS you mean "proprietary" such as Microsoft Windows, the difference is that there's a thriving community which supports Linux for free.
[13:56] <Andreysen> Hey guys! Need help: I'm trying to install Ubuntu 7 on my Laptop at the moment. When I boot with the downloaded CD the startup screen pops up and I choose option 1 to start/install Ubuntu. The loading bar in the next screen freezes and I have to switch off the Laptop physically. Any ideas??
[13:56] <Timmy> since linux works differently
[13:56] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[13:57] <IndyGunFreak> _Oz_: not really watered down, dumbed down... eveyr codec imaginable is installed, NTFS mounting tool is installed by default, lots of other things,. its good, i don't care for it, but its not bad
[13:57] <NthDegree> faileas: if Ubuntu starts with more proactive security it'll be the perfect distro in my eyes :D
[13:57] <EbilPhish> I'm not sure what is considered a irregular os, probably some of the experimental ones
[13:57] <_Oz_> Linux is more stable and performs better than Windows, Timmy.
[13:57] <cliebow> Andreysen, must have something to do with acpi..
[13:57] <Timmy> in what way?
[13:57] <faileas> NthDegree: well, fedora/centos seems to have a different target than ubuntu... i do suppose there's selinux as an option for ubuntu?
[13:57] <_Oz_> IndyGunFreak: NTFS is supported by default? I'd like that.
[13:57] <IndyGunFreak> _Oz_: its just as efficient as Ubuntu, it just looks different, the different menu system takes a bit to get used to...
[13:57] <faileas> EbilPhish: plan 9! ;p
[13:57] <_Oz_> I also like having all the codecs installed.
[13:57] <_Oz_> So, perhaps there is something to like about this "Mint".
[13:57] <Andreysen> ok. should I try using noacpi etc. at starup?
[13:57] <Pici> _Oz_: ntfs-3g is in Gutsy by default as well.
[13:57] <IndyGunFreak> _Oz_: yep...actually, Gutsy detected my NTFS partition by default to.... and mounts it no prob.
[13:57] <Pici> !offtopic
[13:57] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[13:58] <_Oz_> But...  is it supported like Ubuntu?  Can you install the same stuff that runs in Ubuntu, in mint?
[13:58] <Pici> !mint | _Oz_
[13:58] <ubotu> _Oz_: The following are some examples of Ubuntu derived distributions that we cannot provide support for due to repository and software changes, please consult their websites for more information: gNewSense (support in #gnewsense), Linux Mint (support in #linuxmint), LinuxMCE (support in #linuxmce), Ubuntu Ultimate
[13:58] <IndyGunFreak> _Oz_: well, their support channel usually has all of... 20 people in there...lol
[13:58] <cliebow> Andreysen, give it a whirl..i can ask ogra if you need me to
[13:58] <_Oz_> Ah, so Mint is sufficiently different from Ubuntu.
[13:58] <_Oz_> Yeah, Ubuntu seems to be the wave to ride.
[13:58] <faileas> _Oz_: probably can use the same repos,but i kinda think its a little like, why get an apple from a box, when you can get it from a tree? ;p
[13:58] <NthDegree> faileas: not on about SELinux, I mean the other stuff, like compiling with all the security technologies available in gcc, adding in a good quality technology like ExecShield or PaX with the bits flipped so you need to flag binaries to enable rather than disable protection (so nothing breaks) and enhancing AppArmor
[13:59] <Andreysen> I'll give it a try cliebow, thanks for now
[13:59] <faileas> _Oz_: they got rnough things right ;p
[13:59] <_Oz_> faileas: precisely.
[13:59] <faileas> *enough
[13:59] <_Oz_> At least it's linux, but still...  Ubuntu has massive support and momentum.
[13:59] <damaltor> NthDegree: that works fine, there is a test button and i hear a melody...
[13:59] <_Oz_> Is it safe to say that these days, Ubuntu is the most popular and/or fastest growing Linux distro?
[13:59] <NthDegree> damaltor: oops sorry..
[13:59] <damaltor> np
[13:59] <IndyGunFreak> _Oz_: thats its appeal... its "Linux for Human beings"
[13:59] <NthDegree> damaltor: try the sound config for each sound
[13:59] <faileas> _Oz_: pretty much
[13:59] <faileas> and the disk service
[13:59] <NthDegree> see if testing those works
[13:59] <white_eagle> guys is deb better over rpm, or apt over yum, or reversly?
[13:59] <badboy> ciao
[13:59] <x3on> Is Networkmanager installed and enabled by default in Ubuntu?
[13:59] <cliebow> k
[13:59] <damaltor> NthDegree: what do you mean with each sound=
[13:59] <NthDegree> as in where you preview each sound
[13:59] <_Oz_> Very good.
[13:59] <damaltor> ?
[13:59] <white_eagle> x3on: yes
[13:59] <irony9999>  ciao a tutti e ben ritrovati
[14:00]  * faileas notes he's gotten a few people over by handing them the disks
[14:00] <geekahedron> good thing for all this massive support; i can't get my wireless card or ndiswrapper to work ^^
[14:00] <dgjones> !best | white_eagle
[14:00] <ubotu> white_eagle: Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose, depending on your preferences, features you require, and other factors. Do NOT take polls in the channel. If you insist on getting people's opinions, join #ubuntu-bots and ask there.
[14:00] <_Oz_> I hereby write Mint off as being a tangential waste of time.  STICK WITH UBUNTU.
[14:00] <EbilPhish> Does Gutsy have AppArmour enabled by default? And if not will 8.04?
[14:00] <NthDegree> damaltor: where you select what sound is made for each event
[14:00] <white_eagle> heh
[14:00] <faileas> x3on: on gutsy, yes, and it supports WPA ;p
[14:00] <perhamlinux> hello guys
[14:00] <NthDegree> click the play button on each event and see if they work
[14:00] <white_eagle> I was asking for your opinion
[14:00] <IndyGunFreak> white_eagle: its a matter of opinion, personally, I think .deb/apt is lightyears better than rpm/yum.. but its all opinion
[14:00] <white_eagle> not for the best
[14:00] <NthDegree> EbilPhish: has it enabled for a single daemon yeah
[14:00] <damaltor> NthDegree: in kopete you mean? opened it, but if i press play on a selected file i hear nothing
[14:00] <NthDegree> cups
[14:00] <floppy-shuriken> pacman :)
[14:00] <NthDegree> damaltor: no on Sound System Settings
[14:01] <damaltor> k
[14:01] <Stagger> hello, whenever i try to import mpc files into rhythmbox i get the error saying that it cant find the GStreamer plugin for musepack. I think i have installed the musepack plugins, how do i find out if there is something i am missing. thanks a lot!
[14:01] <NthDegree> if Test Sound works
[14:01] <NthDegree> then move on to Notifications
[14:01] <geekahedron> if i just downloaded ndiswrapper 1.52 from their site, should i be getting make errors
[14:01] <NthDegree> on the System Settings bit
[14:01] <white_eagle> geekahedron: just curious, what wireless card do you have?
[14:01] <perhamlinux> I configured my Ubuntu to do NAT. and in my windows PC I can ping external ips, but I can't browse anything and no program seems to understand that I'm connected. any ideas?
[14:01] <zaggy-nl> Anyone here with a creative x-fi sound card?
[14:01] <IndyGunFreak> _Oz_: lol, i don't know about waste of time.. its just kinda dumbed down for people who want everything to work right away, and require very little configuring.
[14:02] <cliebow> IndyGunFreak, takes all the fun out oif it huh!
[14:02] <EbilPhish> perhamlinux: Can you ping by hostnames, ie google.com?
[14:02] <NthDegree> IndyGunFreak: I think RPM has more features than DEB and can handle arches better
[14:02] <NthDegree> that's just me
[14:02] <rhineheart_m> NthDegree: how to access cdrom in ubuntu via webmin?
[14:02] <perhamlinux> let's see
[14:02] <IndyGunFreak> problem is, if there's something you don't know how to do, its tough to figure out on your own, and their support channel is well, a ghost town.. at least it was a few months ago.
[14:02] <NthDegree> rhineheart_m: I don't use webmin so no idea
[14:02] <Laney_Family> Q. can you execute a msi in ubuntu?
[14:02] <perhamlinux> no
[14:02] <IndyGunFreak> NthDegree: its a matter of opinion i guess... i freakin hate yum
[14:02] <arekkusu> Stagger:　in Add/remove application you should have "GStreamer plugins for mms, wavpack, quicktime, musepack"
[14:02] <faileas> IndyGunFreak: its sad, but i tend to pick distros by support channels
[14:03] <faileas> Laney_Family: no
[14:03] <damaltor> NthDegree: ok, sound was disabled there. if i use the "kde sound system" it does not work, i can hear sounds if is use the external mplayer... thats a workaround so far, but nit waht i expected :( how can i reactivate the sound system / change the thing i activated before?
[14:03] <Laney_Family> augh... didnt think so...
[14:03] <perhamlinux> is that the problem? DNS?
[14:03] <perhamlinux> what should I do then?
[14:03] <faileas> Laney_Family: even in wine
[14:03]  * faileas thinks MSI needs microsoft installer
[14:03] <geekahedron> white_eagle: it's a dell d630; broadcom bcm94311mcg wlan mini-pci (rev 01)
[14:03] <rhineheart_m> NthDegree: how about in the terminal? How to access cdrom drive?
[14:03] <IndyGunFreak> faileas: not really sad, you're just predicting problems, want to make sure you can get help... better than diving head first into a pool w/o water
[14:03] <EbilPhish> perhamlinux:  Probably, how are you assigning ip addresses? Normally the DNS is assigned with them
[14:03] <cliebow> perhamlinux, does /etc/resolv.conf show you what params dns runs on?
[14:03] <Laney_Family> Faileas: what is wine?
[14:04] <NthDegree> rhineheart_m: depends on the device file for the cdrom
[14:04] <faileas> Laney_Family: it lets you run some windows apps in linux
[14:04] <EbilPhish> !wine
[14:04] <ubotu> WINE is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information, and see !AppDB for application compatibility.
[14:04] <IndyGunFreak> Laney_Family: http://www.winehq.com
[14:04] <NthDegree> try mkdir /media/cdrom && mount /dev/cdrom /media/cdrom
[14:04] <perhamlinux> wait
[14:04] <NthDegree> @ rhineheart_m
[14:04] <Stagger> arekkesu: actually i cannot see
[14:04] <prince_jammys> can't you just do ls /media/cdrom ?
[14:04] <white_eagle> Laney_Family: its still an alpha release
[14:04] <NthDegree> prince_jammys: only if he has a desktop with HAL running on it
[14:05] <NthDegree> and one single drive
[14:05] <white_eagle> so don't expect plenty
[14:05] <Laney_Family> wow, now that is a response to a Q. LOL
[14:05] <djibuti> hello
[14:05] <NthDegree> white_eagle: BETA ;)
[14:05] <IndyGunFreak> lol
[14:05] <white_eagle> :)
[14:05] <white_eagle> alpha, beta, gama
[14:05] <white_eagle> :D
[14:05] <NthDegree> 0.9.x is BETA.. but that doesn't make it any better ;-p
[14:05] <djibuti> can anyone tell me how to apply backport to tremulous?
[14:05] <damaltor> NthDegree: ok, sound was disabled there. if i use the "kde sound system" it does not work, i can hear sounds if is use the external mplayer... thats a workaround so far, but nit waht i expected :( how can i reactivate the sound system / change the thing i activated before?
[14:05] <IndyGunFreak> djibuti: are you trying to install tremulous?
[14:05] <NthDegree> damaltor: i'm not sure there
[14:05] <mous16> hi to all. there is a way to obtain the directory tree of a web-site?
[14:06] <djibuti> nope only the backport
[14:06] <NthDegree> try Sound System and see if it is loaded
[14:06] <NthDegree> if it is then disable it and click Apply
[14:06] <NthDegree> then enable it and click Apply again
[14:06] <rhineheart_m> NthDegree: how about to display all the files in the cdrom drive? what's the command?
[14:06] <IndyGunFreak> djibuti: well, i don't know what the tremlous backport is.
[14:06] <NthDegree> rhineheart_m: cd /media/cdrom && ls
[14:06] <damaltor> NthDegree: maybe its time for reinstalling... usually something i never did in linux, but i collected a heap of shit on my hdd anyway.. maybe ill look what i really need, and make up the system new =)
[14:06] <NthDegree> then cd into whatever dir you're looking for from there
[14:07] <djibuti> IndyGunFreak: ok, it says there to just overwrite the executable with an x86 file that I have to download somewhere. But I dont know where the executable is
[14:07] <djibuti> I mean i dont know where it is in my pc
[14:08] <IndyGunFreak> djibuti: i imagine in ./tremulous  but thats a guess.
[14:08] <white_eagle> djibuti: its in your home directory
[14:08] <perhamlinux> EbilPhish , cliebow OK, now I'm using /etc/resolv.conf DNSes and it works fine, nut I did it manually. my dhcp seems not to work
[14:08] <danbhfive> djibuti: i have a tutorial to update tremulous to 1.2 backport
[14:08] <white_eagle> just enter your home directory
[14:08] <cliebow> Andreysen, im hanging in #ltsp
[14:08] <eMxyzptlk> Hello guys, there was a tutorial way back on how to create a small shell without borders, anyone remember where is it? I just need the name of the gnome daemon that allows specific windows preferences (not Emerald nor metacity)
[14:08] <white_eagle> and press Ctrl-H
[14:09] <Pici> eMxyzptlk: devilspie
[14:09] <djibuti> danbhfive' ok how?
[14:09] <tux_> Hello. igot my brand new laptop today.. a Hp pavilion dv9000 series.. I tried to start the ubuntu 7.10 amd64 disc but my screen went black.. what can i do
[14:09] <eMxyzptlk> Pici, oh thank you ...
[14:09] <danbhfive> djibuti: but at this point, that tutorial might be a little hard to access, its part of a project im working on
[14:09] <IndyGunFreak> white_eagle: its not there, i just looked.
[14:09] <geekahedron> white_eagle: i have a bunch of errors just trying to `make` the ndiswrapper
[14:09] <perhamlinux> do you have any Idea how can i run dhcp server in ubuntu.
[14:09] <white_eagle> geekahedron: do you have all dependencies installd?
[14:10] <EbilPhish> perhamlinux:  Did the dhcp assign another nameserver, perhaps itself instead of an isp one?
[14:10] <white_eagle> dependencies for compiling***
[14:10] <djibuti> dambhfive: may i know how i could access it?
[14:10] <Timmy> oh so linux is basically some sort of OS thats good in making codes for program and gaming?
[14:10] <geekahedron> white_eagle: how do i check?
[14:10] <Timmy> the desktop sucks
[14:10] <IndyGunFreak> geekahedron: ndiswrapper is in the repositories, why are you compiling it?
[14:10] <white_eagle> Timmy: no
[14:10] <white_eagle> geekahedron: wait
[14:10] <white_eagle> a sec
[14:10] <cliebow> perhamlinux, i cant keep track in here..ill be over in #ltsp where at least i can get insulted..
[14:10] <Laney_Family> ok, well, i think if done one of my first instalations, wine
[14:10] <Laney_Family> ive rather
[14:10] <danbhfive> djibuti: well, you can join #climl   but im trying to figure an easier way for ya
[14:10] <tdawgedogg> oh shit guys i got my first error ever using ubuntu
[14:11] <IndyGunFreak> Timmy: you've been given lots of links to learn about linux and ubuntu, read them, asking questions here further is silly
[14:11] <white_eagle> Laney_Family: go to the about of wine
[14:11] <Laney_Family> ???
[14:11] <white_eagle> see if it says 0.9.55
[14:11] <geekahedron> IndyGunFreak: i was explicitly told to download from ndiswrapper and not from the repos
[14:11] <IndyGunFreak> geekahedron: ok...
[14:11] <Timmy> can i have the link again?
[14:11] <Laney_Family> its at 65 % now
[14:11] <white_eagle> Laney_Family: to see do you have the latest version
[14:11] <djibuti> danbhfive: ok
[14:11] <Timmy> !linux
[14:11] <ubotu> Linux is the kernel (core) of the Ubuntu operating system. Many operating systems use Linux as kernel. For more information on Linux in general, visit http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux
[14:11] <EbilPhish> perhamlinux:  Personally I like dnsmasq, for my home server its fairly simple
[14:11] <tdawgedogg> in mplayer im playing a 1080p movie and I get an error that says to many frames in the buffer what does that mean
[14:11] <Laney_Family> i did it via the terminal and added it to the apt to keep it updated..
[14:11] <IndyGunFreak> geekahedron: open a terminal and type "sudo apt-get build-dep ndiswrapper"
[14:11] <Laney_Family> but yes, after it finishes ill do that
[14:11] <white_eagle> thanks IndyGunFreak
[14:11] <djibuti> Timmy: Linux will PWN windows in the near future
[14:11] <white_eagle> for saving me time
[14:11] <EbilPhish> perhamlinux:  Has a dhcp server in it
[14:12] <Timmy> how do you mean?
[14:12] <IndyGunFreak> geekahedron: that command will do a dependency check on the ndiswrapper in the repos, then install them, then that should resolve dependencies for the version you're trying to compile
[14:12] <perhamlinux> my ubuntu is connecting fine, but dhcp iun windows even couldn't assign right address with ubuntu
[14:12] <Laney_Family> Q. where do you guys learn these commands???
[14:12] <danbhfive> djibuti: pm?
[14:12] <Pici> !usage | Laney_Family
[14:12] <ubotu> Laney_Family: I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[14:12] <perhamlinux> my ubunbtu is <IP_ADDRESS>
[14:12] <djibuti> danbhfive: ok
[14:12] <geekahedron> "E: You must put some 'source' URIs in your sources.list"
[14:12] <white_eagle> perhamlinux: ???
[14:12] <geekahedron> just a sec
[14:12] <dgjones> Timmy, you might be better joining #ubuntu-offtopic for general chat about Linux/Ubuntu, this channel is for problem solving and help, rather than discussions
[14:12] <Laney_Family> LOL,
[14:12] <Laney_Family> nice PICI
[14:12] <IndyGunFreak> geekahedron: open up synaptic
[14:12] <white_eagle> oh
[14:12] <Timmy> most people loved either windows or mac
[14:12] <tux_> Hello. igot my brand new laptop today.. a Hp pavilion dv9000 series.. I tried to start the ubuntu 7.10 amd64 disc but my screen went black.. what can i do
[14:12] <white_eagle> ok, never mind perhamlinux
[14:12] <tdawgedogg> in mplayer im playing a 1080p movie and I get an error that says to many frames in the buffer what does that mean
[14:13] <bazhang> Laney_Family: you do it after awhile and it comes naturally--debian basied ones are especially good with the apt-get commmands to run
[14:13] <bazhang> err commands even
[14:13] <IndyGunFreak> geekahedron: did you open synaptic?
[14:13] <white_eagle> tux_: is your processor 64bit?
[14:13] <EbilPhish> Laney_Family:  By using them, following howto etc...
[14:13] <perhamlinux> ok. i download it. apt-get right?
[14:13] <djibuti> danbhfive: i have yet to register
[14:13] <EbilPhish> Laney_Family:  And looking at man pages
[14:13] <danbhfive> djibuti: then just join #climl
[14:13] <Pici> I think he meant the bot commands...
[14:13] <bazhang> perhamlinux: sudo apt-get install packagename
[14:13] <geekahedron> IndyGunFreak: yes
[14:13] <Laney_Family> lol, ok, if you guys ever need help on Server 2000-2003 lemme know,
[14:13] <x3on> Anybody used an iPod touch with Amarok?
[14:14] <tux_> yess
[14:14] <white_eagle> tux_: exactly what happens
[14:14] <IndyGunFreak> geekahedron: click settings menu, then reposotiories, ont he first tab, make sure everything is checked on the top(including source code).. then close, and reload
[14:14] <bazhang> http://amarok.kde.org/wiki/Media_Device:IPod x3on this may help
[14:14] <white_eagle> tell me what exatly happens
[14:14] <perhamlinux> thanks everyone. bazhang, I'm not that newbie!! :D thanks anyway! :)
[14:14] <perhamlinux> bye
[14:14] <EbilPhish> cya
[14:15] <threefcata> hi, how to configure wpa wifi with a static ip? i changed /etc/../interface but it does not work?
[14:15] <bazhang> oops sorry perhamlinux; misread your question ;]
[14:15] <EbilPhish> threefcata:  Default Ubuntu Desktop installs use Network Manager, its the icon on the top right
[14:15] <IndyGunFreak> geekahedron: did you do that?
[14:15] <white_eagle> hey bazhang
[14:15] <bazhang> heya white_eagle
[14:15] <Stagger> arekkesu: thanks, that fixed it!
[14:15] <Stagger> :)
[14:16] <threefcata> EbilPhish: but it seems it does not support WPA?
[14:16] <geekahedron> IndyGunFreak: yes
[14:16] <IndyGunFreak> geekahedron: ok, now close synaptic.
[14:16] <white_eagle> got that direct rendering to work bazhang ?
[14:16] <tux_> when i press start or install or safemodus the ubuntu seems to startup.. but my screen is black... as in sleep modus.. when i press poweroff its read from the cd and it eject
[14:16] <geekahedron> IndyGunFreak: done
[14:16] <tux_>  NVIDIA® GeForce™ 8400M GS
[14:16] <IndyGunFreak> geekahedron: then go back to the terminal, and run "sudo apt-get build-dep ndiswrapper"
[14:16] <rilo> Soo, how can I enter extended ASCII given default keyboard settings for a US 105-key generic keyboard? It's actually a laptop keyboard and I would have to use Fn to simulate the keypad
[14:16] <Pici> tux_: Have you treid the Alternate CD?
[14:16] <geekahedron> IndyGunFreak: i did .. it's asking for my disc
[14:16] <bazhang> white_eagle: when I get an ATI card I will ;]
[14:17] <Pici> !alt | tux_
[14:17] <ubotu> tux_: The Alternate CD is a classical text-mode install CD. It supports a wider range of hardware than the !LiveCD, and can also be used as an upgrade CD.  Look for the alternate checkbox on the Ubuntu download page - See also !minimal
[14:17] <white_eagle> oh
[14:17] <IndyGunFreak> geekahedron: ok, well, thats annoying.
[14:17] <IndyGunFreak> geekahedron: open synaptic again.
[14:17] <white_eagle> bazhang: it wasn;t you
[14:17] <Syntax> When i boot to ubuntu, and try to use a wired connection to get on the internet, firefox never finds a homepage, even though it says its sending and recieving packets.
[14:17] <white_eagle> ;)
[14:17] <geekahedron> IndyGunFreak: ok
[14:17] <white_eagle> it was bascul*
[14:17] <tux_> okay thx
[14:17] <EbilPhish> threefcata:  I think its being planned, you might need to use wpa_supplicant or something
[14:17] <white_eagle> I don't want to disturb him
[14:17] <IndyGunFreak> geekahedron: settings menu/repositories.. at the bottom, where it says, "installable from CD-Rom".. uncheck the box, close and reload
[14:18] <IndyGunFreak> thast one feature i wish ubuntu didnm't have, to windowish, but i know its for folks on dial up
[14:18] <GSK> someone know VMware on Ubuntu ?
[14:18] <Andeh> hey, did flash break again?
[14:18] <threefcata> EbilPhish: yeah, i think so, too. how to use wpa_supplicant?
[14:18] <white_eagle> Andeh: no
[14:18] <bazhang> yes GSK ;] what is your question?
[14:18] <Andeh> it worked yesterday
[14:18] <geekahedron> IndyGunFreak: now it's going
[14:18] <IndyGunFreak> ok.
[14:18] <white_eagle> Andeh: do sudon apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[14:18] <AckerMANn> hellow I have one problem with ubuntu 7.10 server. When i type: sudo su - the linux show me on cli an error.. who can help me ?
[14:18] <white_eagle> sudo*
[14:18] <IndyGunFreak> geekahedron: when its done... you *should* be able to compile ndiswrapper w/o issue
[14:19] <danbhfive> AckerMANn: how about sudo -i  ?
[14:19] <rilo> what is the equivalent of "ipconfig /renew" in Windows? Is it "dhcpclient"?
[14:19] <Andeh> white_eagle: I have it already. Even youtube knows that, it doesnt say I need it, it just gives me a big empty space where the swf content should be
[14:19] <Andeh> white_eagle: I'll try reinstalling tho
[14:19] <white_eagle> Andeh: thats weird
[14:19] <bazhang> GSK: or was that the totality of your question ;]
[14:19] <white_eagle> ok
[14:19] <faileas> GSK: host or guest?
[14:19] <EbilPhish> threefcata:  I don't really know the Ubuntu specifics but you need to edit /etc/wpasupplicant.conf and add your networks to it, I assume you might need to disable network manager to stop it from overriding stuff
[14:19] <Muschifurz> cliebow: tried installin with noacpi and noapic seperately and together...still freezes?! :-(
[14:19] <EbilPhish> !wpa
[14:19] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[14:19] <GSK> i watn to configure vmnet on mode bridged
[14:19] <IndyGunFreak> geekahedron: any program thats in the repositories, but you need the updated version, or a compiled version.. running that build-dep program  basically just tells ubuntu to build the dependencies for it, which should make compiling the source easy, assuming the dependencies for the version you're wanting to compile, are the same as the verison in the repos(usually it is, its never let me down)
[14:20] <GSK> sorry for my poor english
[14:20] <white_eagle> guys I can undeline text with _underline_ bold it with *bold*, can I italic it?
[14:20] <AckerMANn> danbhfive: error... sendmail: ... I can`t paste here.. if you want to view the error tell me where i can paste it.
[14:20] <danbhfive> !paste | AckerMANn
[14:20] <ubotu> AckerMANn: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[14:20] <threefcata> EbilPhish: hmm, ok seems i need a bit of google on that..
[14:20] <threefcata> EbilPhish: thx anyway
[14:20] <Pici> white_eagle: This channel is set +c, so its actually your client thinking that the text is bold or underlined because you used * & _
[14:20] <GSK> on my host i have two cards one wifi and the other ethernet
[14:20] <Andeh> yay flash works now.
[14:20] <white_eagle> Pici: I know that but can I italic the text?
[14:21] <Pici> white_eagle: You'd have to check your client's documentation.
[14:21] <EbilPhish> threefcata:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WPAHowTo seems to indicate wpa works with network manager
[14:21] <AckerMANn> danbhfive: done, I pressed the paste button.
[14:21] <Muschifurz> Hey guys! Need help: I'm trying to install Ubuntu 7 on my Laptop at the moment. When I boot with the downloaded CD the startup screen pops up and I choose option 1 to start/install Ubuntu. The loading bar in the next screen freezes and I have to switch off the Laptop physically. Any ideas?? Tried installing with noacpi and noapic
[14:21] <Laney_Family> ok guys, stange Q., When i installed edubuntu all my devices worked correctly, even my old wireless card (not that old), but when I installed ubuntu server then added the ubuntu desktop gui, the wireless is not there? any ideas, i mean I thought they were all the same with diff configurations
[14:22] <white_eagle> Pici: is wubi recommended for begginers? (just curious)
[14:22]  * avaloncio is away: Estoy ocupado
[14:22] <white_eagle> !wubi
[14:22] <ubotu> wubi is an unofficial Ubuntu installer for Windows users - more info is at http://www.cutlersoftware.com/ubuntusetup/wubi/en-US/index.html
[14:22] <lynghoej> hello all
[14:22]  * avaloncio is back (gone 00:00:03)
[14:22] <IndyGunFreak> Muschifurz: first guess would be to reburn the CD, SLOW...
[14:22] <EbilPhish> Laney_Family:  Did you install the ubuntu-desktop package?
[14:22] <cliebow> Muschifurz, what model lappie?
[14:22] <danbhfive> AckerMANn: i think you need to post a link in chat
[14:22] <Pici> !away > avaloncio (Please see the private messsage from ubotu)
[14:22] <Pici> white_eagle: Depends on their setup.
[14:22] <faileas> white_eagle: hell yes.however the website addie there is wrong
[14:22] <EbilPhish> Laney_Family:  Perhaps you need to install network-manager
[14:22] <bazhang> Laney_Family: you may need to enable the driver in the restricted drivers manager--what card is it? can you access the machine presently?
[14:22] <cliebow> Muschifurz, good point..the cd is highly compressed and is oicky about burn
[14:23] <AckerMANn> danbhfive: this link ? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/56744/report/
[14:23] <voltage> Morning all
[14:23] <white_eagle> I dunno if I should install ubuntu at my friend with wubi or usually, so I don't mess up something
[14:23] <Laney_Family> Baz, yes, im on the rig now, how do i findout the details on the card?
[14:23] <white_eagle> usually = with the live cd
[14:23] <Laney_Family> i a bit vauge on its specs
[14:23] <avaloncio> Pici, soz, i didnt want to do that
[14:23] <AquaFox|Laptop> I played with nvidia-config and now my game won't start up in 640x480 resolution because that doesn't exsit in Xorg
[14:23] <AquaFox|Laptop> I run an nvidia card.
[14:23] <AquaFox|Laptop> What to do?
[14:24] <danbhfive> AckerMANn: yeah, i dunno.  but you did paste the error, maybe someone else knows
[14:24] <EbilPhish> white_eagle: wubi hasn't seemed that good to me slow and such, if your careful you shouldn't break anything (and you can probally do as much damange with wubi anyway)
[14:24] <bazhang> Laney_Family: open up a terminal and type lspci if it is internal and lsusb if it a usb dongle then tell us the precise model here--no need to paste, just something like broadcomm 43xx or the like
[14:24] <IndyGunFreak> EbilPhish: because wubi isn't that good.
[14:24] <QuickGold> Can anyone recommend a great looking, robust IM client similiar to Adium?
[14:24] <threefcata> EbilPhish: i read that page before, it doesn't say if wpa works with network manager or not, it's just about how to configure the wpa_supplicant.conf
[14:24] <IndyGunFreak> EbilPhish: white_eagle likes to see how much bad advice he can hand out in a day
[14:25] <IndyGunFreak> EbilPhish: at what speed did you burn the disk?
[14:25] <Laney_Family> ok doing that now baz
[14:25] <AckerMANn> danbhfive: man but .. this is the response of ubuntu when i give sudo su - command. want i need to do to resolve it ?
[14:25] <Laney_Family> and no its internal, otherwise id just read it
[14:25] <GSK> so for vmware ?
[14:25] <danbhfive> AckerMANn: well, obviously there is something wrong with the sendmail setup, but I have no idea how to fix that
[14:25] <GSK> want to configure mode bridged for virtual machines
[14:26] <GSK> but it doesn't work
[14:26] <AckerMANn> danbhfive: 10x man ... :((
[14:26] <EbilPhish> QuickGold:  Anything wrong with Pidgin?
[14:26] <geekahedron> okay so .. now that i *think* my wireless card drivers are there, how can i use it?
[14:26] <prince_jammys> AckerMANn: try sudo -i <enter>  then your commands  .. when you are done, type "exit"
[14:26] <bazhang> GSK: have you installed vmware from the repos? it  is in the canonical gutsy partner as far as I remember
[14:27] <wolfey> i have problem with this it says fixed released, but up-to-date gutsy doesnt have this fix https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/cupsys/+bug/155530/+viewstatus
[14:27] <nox-Hand> ½product: 82852/855GM Integrated Graphics Device
[14:27] <nox-Hand> product: 82852/855GM Integrated Graphics Device
[14:27] <wolfey> what can i do?
[14:27] <GSK> i install it by repos (that mean like make install ...etc)
[14:27] <nox-Hand> Oops, sorry about double paste -- can someone help me get video drivers working for that for OpenGL?
[14:27] <AckerMANn> prince_jammys: man ... i tryed sudo -i <enter> and ...: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/56746/plain/
[14:27] <IndyGunFreak> QuickGold: pidgin really is the best IM client.
[14:27] <white_eagle> !bug#1
[14:27] <ubotu> For discussion and help with Microsoft Windows, please visit ##windows. See http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm and /msg ubotu equivalents
[14:27] <Laney_Family> ok i ran the lspci command, im not seeing it..... oddle enough....
[14:27] <wolfey> IndyGunFreak: lol, AMSN is best
[14:28] <white_eagle> wolfey: try emesene
[14:28] <GSK> i'am french so i don't have a good english but on the french channel nobody can help me
[14:28] <QuickGold> my problem with pidgin is it looks like poop
[14:28] <IndyGunFreak> wolfey: lol, matter of opinion i gues.
[14:28] <white_eagle> if you like
[14:28] <bazhang> GSK: make install means you compiled it correct? the typical way of doing it from the repos is sudo apt-get install packagename
[14:28] <Laney_Family> i am however showing 2 ether cards when there is only one
[14:28] <wolfey> white_eagle: emesene?
[14:28] <white_eagle> wolfey: yeah, wait a sec
[14:28] <white_eagle> I'll give you a link
[14:28] <white_eagle> it isn't in the repos
[14:28] <wolfey> i have exactly same problem as this ubuntu bug report, says fix released, but up-to-date gutsy doesnt have this fix https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/cupsys/+bug/155530/+viewstatus
[14:28] <K-Ton> IndyGunFreak & wolfey : only for the msn protocol, my favourite is Mercury
[14:28] <faileas> IndyGunFreak: personally i prefer kopete, but pidgin is great ;p
[14:28] <bazhang> Laney_Family: what is the second one's make and model?
[14:28] <white_eagle> wolfey: emesene.org
[14:28] <wolfey> who can i annoy with this?
[14:29] <GSK> bazhang no i install it by a script after uncompress it
[14:29] <white_eagle> add emesene to your repos
[14:29] <faileas> K-Ton: thats the java one with video support isn't ot?
[14:29] <white_eagle> and install it with apt-get install emesene
[14:29] <white_eagle> its nice and not cluttered
[14:29] <IndyGunFreak> faileas: kopete has the same problem for me, that kDE does.. its freakin ugly, and looksl ike its GUI was set by a 4yr old.
[14:29] <K-Ton> faileas yes it's using java
[14:29] <wolfey> white_eagle: i dont need another messenger
[14:29] <prince_jammys> AckerMANn: does that file exist?  type :  file  /etc/postfix/main.cf
[14:29] <GSK> ./vmware-install.pl something like this
[14:29] <wolfey> i want to make this inkjey print
[14:29] <wolfey> i have exactly same problem as this ubuntu bug report, says fix released, but up-to-date gutsy doesnt have this fix https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/cupsys/+bug/155530/+viewstatus
[14:29] <wolfey> where can i get goddamn fix, you binary distro
[14:30] <faileas> IndyGunFreak: i love KDE ;p
[14:30] <AckerMANn> prince_jammys: no man isn`t exist.
[14:30] <jrib> wolfey: have you enabled gutsy-updates?
[14:30] <white_eagle> wolfey: ;) i told you about it because you said you like amsn
[14:30] <white_eagle> nevermind though
[14:30] <IndyGunFreak> faileas: i'd rather give Rosie O'Donnell a pair of golf cleats, and let her stomp on my face, than use KDE..
[14:30] <prince_jammys> AckerMANn: that's the problem :)
[14:30] <white_eagle> bye guys
[14:30] <wolfey> jrib: yes
[14:30] <bazhang> GSK: aha--well it is now in the repos so that is not needed; all I did was install it from the repos then download the free key from vmware's site to get it going--the bridged mode was something I chose in the setup
[14:31] <AckerMANn> prince_jammys: how i can resolve it ?
[14:31] <jrib> wolfey: pastebin the result of 'apt-cache policy cupsys'
[14:31] <Laney_Family> so any ideas?
[14:31] <DiploCat> does anyone know if there's a fix for the Xorg process spiraling out of control after a few hours of idleness?
[14:31] <faileas> IndyGunFreak: i've used gnome, CDE, KDE and a few windows shells. wierdly CDE is my fav, but KDE is the one i use most ;p
[14:31] <IndyGunFreak> faileas: i guess thats the beauty of Linux, you're not stuck with what they say is best.
[14:32] <centyx> Hi. Could anyone tell me what Ubuntu pacakge adds the group 'admin' to /etc/group?
[14:32] <faileas> IndyGunFreak: yup, and they let you know it
[14:32] <bazhang> Laney_Family: well what are the names of the cards you get from lspci--we can narrow it down a bit that way
[14:32] <wolfey> jrib: http://pastebin.com/m58a822f
[14:32] <Laney_Family> baz, ok one sec
[14:32] <|WolF|> question: how to install tcl on ubuntu?
[14:32] <bazhang> !info tcl
[14:32] <ubotu> Package tcl does not exist in gutsy
[14:33] <Laney_Family> multitasking, trien to fix this and get remote to work ;)
[14:33] <prince_jammys> AckerMANn: i don't know, looks like you have to find a guide on how to configure postfix
[14:33] <AckerMANn> prince_jammys: ok man .. thanks
[14:33] <jrib> wolfey: then you have the fixed package.  If you just installed it and it is not working reboot.  If you still have the bug, comment on the tracker
[14:34] <Laney_Family> 1st: atheros communications, inc. ar5212/ar5213 multiprotocol mac/baseband processsor
[14:34] <wolfey> jrib ok
[14:34] <wolfey> thx
[14:34] <rhineheart_m> NthDegree: I got this error: apache2: Could not reliably determine the server's fully qualified domain name, using example.com  for ServerName
[14:34] <Laney_Family> 2nd: admteck nc100 network everwhere fast ethernet 10/100
[14:34] <prince_jammys> AckerMANn: check this out, maybe this helps https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Postfix
[14:34] <Laney_Family> baz, does that help any?
[14:34] <cliebow> rhineheart_m, a warning
[14:35] <Laney_Family> i mean i could boot into the edubuntu and check its list.... find the diff.
[14:35] <Stavros> any idea why i don't have ifconfig on my system?
[14:35] <bazhang> what is the second Laney_Family
[14:35] <Stavros> or, well, which package it's in
[14:35] <rhineheart_m> cliebow: how to solve it?
[14:35] <cliebow> rhineheart_m, you can edit httpd.conf and change srevername
[14:35] <bazhang> Laney_Family: that would work too ;]
[14:35] <AckerMANn> prince_jammys: man .. i tryed .. dpkg-reconfigure postfix , but ..tells me that commands need to be run by root, and .. when : sudo su - .. same error ... :)) i can`t belive.
[14:36] <Laney_Family> baz, second: admteck nc100 network everwhere fast ethernet 10/100
[14:36] <poppycock> http://s1.gladiatus.lt/game/c.php?uid=42948
[14:36] <Laney_Family> baz, thats all it gives me
[14:36] <erawfish_> Stavros: you do have it. /sbin/ifconfig
[14:36] <prince_jammys> AckerMANn: you don't need sudo su - .   just do  sudo dpkg-blahblah
[14:36] <erawfish_> Laney_Family: lspci -n gives more
[14:36] <Stavros> erawfish_: ah, thanks, odd
[14:36] <cliebow> rhineheart_m, errr apache2.conf
[14:36] <Pici> poppycock: ?
[14:36] <erawfish_> Stavros: not odd. normal
[14:36] <wers> how do I send group messages using pidgin? :)
[14:36] <Laney_Family> ok, should I run that baz, i mean will that help you any? the lspci -n?
[14:36] <Stavros> erawfish_: i mean it not running was odd
[14:37] <erawfish_> Stavros: if you doN#t give the proper path, not odd
[14:37] <rhineheart_m> cliebow: what do you mean?
[14:37] <Stavros> erawfish_: it's usually in PATH...
[14:37] <bazhang> Laney_Family: then the atheros is the wifi one--does the restricted driver manager not list it? what does ifconfig and iwconfig return in the terminal? better to briefly describe instead of pasting here
[14:37] <AckerMANn> prince_jammys: same error: sendmail: fatal: open/ ...... :-?? when i put sudo dpkg-reconfigure postfix
[14:37] <erawfish_> Stavros: never was on ubuntu nor debian
[14:37] <erawfish_> Stavros: /sbin is only on root's path
[14:37] <mykorrhiza> Hello I have a problem with the cd-drive on my laptop, I cant mount anything. But in recovery mode it works but not the automounting.
[14:37] <Laney_Family> baz, lol sorry
[14:37] <Stavros> erawfish_: that's odd, i always run it without the path and it always works
[14:37] <NthDegree> rhineheart_m: back now
[14:37] <erawfish_> mykorrhiza: what if you mount manually with "mount"?
[14:38] <Laney_Family> baz, still rather new at this, umm, ok soo run if config and iwconfig?
[14:38] <NthDegree> rhineheart_m: ignore that.. it's not a major issue
[14:38] <NthDegree> rhineheart_m: Set a ServerName in apache2.conf if you like
[14:38] <prince_jammys> AckerMANn: have you tried reinstalling postfix?
[14:38] <mykorrhiza> only works in recovery mode
[14:38] <cliebow> rhineheart_m, like HthDegree says..
[14:38] <rhineheart_m> NthDegree: okay.. thanks.. but I got this message that my sendmail is not working properly
[14:38] <Laney_Family> baz, how do i access the restricted driver manager?
[14:38] <NthDegree> rhineheart_m: or set it in enabled-sites/default-000
[14:38] <bazhang> Laney_Family: yup, but with no gaps: ifconfig and iwconfig--and we were all new not that long ago ;]
[14:38] <AckerMANn> prince_jammys: no man, I`m beginner ... you can tell me how i can reinstall postfix ? :) or give me a tutorial..
[14:39] <NthDegree> rhineheart_m: apache2 is the webserver
[14:39] <mykorrhiza> It says bad superblock or fs type
[14:39] <NthDegree> what is the issue with sendmail?
[14:39] <Piet> hi all. is  it better to install tomcat manually or via apt-get? on ubuntu
[14:39] <Jockeo> Using my ubuntu machine, what is the easiest/best way to control my friends Windows XP desktop? Preferably he should be able to see what I do, so he can learn, but that is not necessary.
[14:39] <NthDegree> (I suck with sendmail by the way)#
[14:39] <erawfish_> mykorrhiza: dmesg |grep CD
[14:39] <GSK> VMware bridged mode, someone can help me ? To configure it on my laptop. I want to bridged vmnet 1 on eth0 and vmnet 2 on eth1
[14:39] <NthDegree> Jockeo: an RDP client
[14:39] <bazhang> Laney_Family: that should show up if it using the restricted drivers for graphics, wireless etc.; if it is part of the kernel or open source then it will not show up there
[14:39] <mykorrhiza> ok
[14:39] <NthDegree> Jockeo: or if not that install a VNC server on his machine and use a VNC client
[14:39] <erawfish_> NthDegree: way too complicated and unneeded in 99% of cases
[14:39] <Laney_Family> baz, ok, um i ran the ifconfig and it has 2 items listed , one eth0 other lo, i dont know what this info is however...
[14:40] <prince_jammys> AckerMANn: i don't know about postfix, but let me see if i can find something.  it may be that the first link above is actually what reinstalls postfix, but it isnt working for you.
[14:40] <NthDegree> erawfish_: that is the secure way]
[14:40] <Codenut> how do I downgrade from gutsy back to feisty?
[14:40] <erawfish_> Jockeo: vnc
[14:40] <Kibbles> having trouble setting up my screen so it has correct refresh rate
[14:40] <Jockeo> NthDegree: Is it easiest for him if I use an RDP client? Will he need to install anything then?
[14:40] <bazhang> Laney_Family: eth0 is the wired and lo is loopback
[14:40] <erawfish_> NthDegree: postfix or exim4
[14:40] <AckerMANn> prince_jammys: i`m waiting.
[14:40] <dgjones> !downgrade | Codenut, You'll need to reinstall, downgrades aren't supported
[14:40] <ubotu> Codenut, You'll need to reinstall, downgrades aren't supported: Attempting to downgrade to an older Ubuntu version is explicitly not supported, and may break your system.
[14:40] <NthDegree> Jockeo: RDP is the protocol of Remote Assistance =]
[14:40] <rhineheart_m> NthDegree:  Restarting Mail Transport Agent (MTA) sendmail/ start-stop-daemon: stat /usr/sbin/sendmail-mta: No such file or directory (No such file or directory) /etc/init.d/sendmail: line 296:
[14:40] <erawfish_> NthDegree: but won't solve his problem
[14:41] <Laney_Family> baz, ok so the wireless is not listed, right?
[14:41] <erawfish_> rhineheart_m: dpkg -l|grep sendmail
[14:41] <bazhang> Laney_Family: sadly correct
[14:41] <mykorrhiza>    32.717455] hdc: UJDA730 DVD/CDRW, ATAPI CD/DVD-ROM drive
[14:41] <mykorrhiza> [   33.547493] hdc: ATAPI 24X DVD-ROM CD-R/RW drive, 2048kB Cache, UDMA(33)
[14:41] <mykorrhiza> [   33.547510] Uniform CD-ROM driver Revision: 3.20
[14:41] <erawfish_> rhineheart_m: most likely you had sendmail incstalled once but didn't purge but only remove
[14:41] <Laney_Family> baz, sadly? so what do i do?
[14:42] <NthDegree> erawfish_: oh why's that?
[14:42] <Kibbles> any1 care to look at my xorg.conf @ http://www.pastebin.ca/911118
[14:42] <Kibbles> and tell me where I went wrong....
[14:42] <erawfish_> NthDegree: cause when rdp is active the XP users won't see a thing
[14:42] <Codenut> grrr, going from an update stable (gutsy) to an older version (7.04) seems kind of dumb. OHHHH well
[14:42] <Piet> hi all. is  it better to install tomcat manually or via apt-get? on ubuntu
[14:42] <NthDegree> erawfish_: on remote assistance the XP users can see everything that occurs just like on VNC
[14:42] <erawfish_> Piet: only via apt-get is supported here
[14:42] <prince_jammys> AckerMANn: right now i'm looking at this: http://flurdy.com/docs/postfix/#install_distro
[14:43] <Piet> ok
[14:43] <rhineheart_m> ii  sendmail-base                         8.14.1-8ubuntu1          powerful, efficient, and scalable Mail Trans
[14:43] <rhineheart_m> rc  sendmail-bin                          8.14.1-8ubuntu1          powerful, efficient, and scalable Mail Trans
[14:43] <rhineheart_m> ii  sendmail-cf                           8.14.1-8ubuntu1          powerful, efficient, and scalable Mail Trans
[14:43] <erawfish_> rhineheart_m: you have removed sendmail is shown here. why do you want to use sendmail?
[14:43] <bazhang> Laney_Family: the wireless was working in the edubuntu install? and then you installed ubuntu-server (which of course has no wireless option) and put ubuntu-desktop on top of that? that would be the issue=if you did the reverse; installed ubuntu then added server components (lamp eg) it would include the wireless components
[14:43] <Piet> erawfish_ you recommend apt-get?
[14:43] <erawfish_> Piet: aptitude or synaptic
[14:43] <AckerMANn> prince_jammys: wait a second please.
[14:43] <Piet> erawfish_ why those?
[14:44] <Laney_Family> baz, ;(
[14:44] <InsClusoe> Hi all.. I have problems playing .VOB files and .flv files with vlc on feisty. It's able to play mp3 files, though.
[14:44] <NthDegree> Piet: they are easier to use mostly
[14:44] <mykorrhiza> Does that seem ok?
[14:44] <erawfish_> Piet: cause they are the default ways to install stuff
[14:44] <rhineheart_m> erawfish_: I want to use it in registration confirmation in my drupal site
[14:44] <Piet> allright.
[14:44] <bazhang> Laney_Family: you can test this out by running the ubuntu live cd and see if that gets the wireless card
[14:44] <erawfish_> rhineheart_m: that is no reason. drupal doesn't need sendmail
[14:44] <NthDegree> InsClusoe: install libdvdcss for the .VOB files if they're from a DVD
[14:44] <InsClusoe> NthDegree: I have installed it.
[14:44] <prince_jammys> AckerMANn: what happens when you do :: sudo apt-get install postfix ?
[14:44] <Laney_Family> for some reason i cannot run the live cd on this sys, it prompts back to a terminal screen
[14:45] <erawfish_> rhineheart_m: every MTA has a /usr/lib/sendmail binary with it. use postfix or exim
[14:45] <erawfish_> Laney_Family: what wlan is it? what chip?
[14:45] <Laney_Family> as such i cannot install ubuntu with the disk i have...
[14:45] <AckerMANn> prince_jammys: when ... that: sendmail: fatal: open /etc/postfix/main.cf: No such file or directory
[14:45] <Viktorious> whats a good p2p sharing program similar to limewire
[14:45] <Laney_Family> idk, its in the machine, no access
[14:45] <InsClusoe> NthDegree: I have libdvdcss2, if that matters.
[14:45] <bazhang> Laney_Family: well you could install ubuntu-desktop on the edubuntu install and choose session from there
[14:45] <erawfish_> AckerMANn: dpkg-reconfigure postfix as root. full output in a pastebin
[14:45] <dgjones> !alternate | Laney_Family, If the livecd doesn't work, you could try the alternate install cd
[14:46] <ubotu> Laney_Family, If the livecd doesn't work, you could try the alternate install cd: The Alternate CD is a classical text-mode install CD. It supports a wider range of hardware than the !LiveCD, and can also be used as an upgrade CD.  Look for the alternate checkbox on the Ubuntu download page - See also !minimal
[14:46] <bazhang> erawfish_: atheros chipset supported in edubuntu
[14:46] <nastas> Victorious frostwire :)
[14:46] <rhineheart_m> erawfish_: okay.. so what should I need to configure? I tried registering but the confirmation didn't arrive
[14:46] <erawfish_> Laney_Family: you do have access. you can boot something on the machine, right?
[14:46] <spaceninja> doesn't ubuntu use hal to automatically mount discs?
[14:46] <erawfish_> rhineheart_with sendmail? you should install it first. but I don't support sendmail
[14:46] <AckerMANn> erawfish_ : wait a second.
[14:46] <erawfish_> bazhang: if edubuntu's kernel can so can ubuntu's
[14:46] <NthDegree> InsClusoe: do those files play on mplayer?
[14:46] <Laney_Family> thanks gusy, unfortunaly i have to go, sun needs bath before school
[14:47] <arekkusu> A bit off topic but I just saw a news that compaq is coming with an UMPC with Windows OR Linux as OS choice.... I had no idea compaq sold pc running on linux... is that something new ?
[14:47] <Laney_Family> thanks for your help
[14:47] <bazhang> erawfish_: indeed, which is what I was trying to tell Laney_Family
[14:47] <Laney_Family> lol son needs bath rather
[14:47] <InsClusoe> NthDegree: I haven't tried mplayer.. Let me check..
[14:47] <vb> my ubuntu is heating up my laptop leading to restart whenver i listen to songs or play youtube videos, it is ubuntu-specific since the laptop works fine over on xp, it worked fine 4 days back, i assume some system update has messed up something, any idea?
[14:47] <nastas> anyone knows how to make my wireless light to work?
[14:47] <erawfish_> AckerMANn: HP (owner of compaq) sold linux boxes for ages now
[14:47] <erawfish_> nastas: only if you learn to ask sensible questions
[14:48] <bazhang> arekkusu: best to ask about that in #ubuntu-offtopic ;]
[14:48] <erawfish_> arekkusu: HP (owner of compaq) sold linux boxes for ages now
[14:48] <AckerMANn> erawfish_ : that is the result : http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/56748/plain/
[14:48] <erawfish_> AckerMANn: touch http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/56748/plain/
[14:48] <erawfish_> erm, touch /etc/postfix/main.cf
[14:48] <erawfish_> then try again
[14:49] <AckerMANn> erawfish_ : the result is : touch: cannot touch `/etc/postfix/main.cf': Permission denied
[14:49] <erawfish_> AckerMANn: does /etc/postfix/ exist? the directory exists and if so what files are in there?
[14:49] <erawfish_> AckerMANn: you need to be root of course
[14:49] <arekkusu> bazhang: sorry didn't realise there was an offtopic channel ><  erawfish_: Ok didn't know that :)
[14:49] <AckerMANn> erawfish_ : wait a second... i can`t be root because i have that error ;) with sendmail : fatal.. etc
[14:49] <no1knwosme> hi,
[14:49] <Wunar> Hello! I'm trying to keep the 7.10 kernel (<IP_ADDRESS>) from updating, either via apt-get upgrade, or adept, ever (while I figure out why the updated kernel breaks wireless for me), but to no avail. Can anyone nudge me in the right direction? /etc/apt/preferences and pinning seem to do nothing (or I just can't)