[13:12] <Reave-Magentium> dr-lee unfortunately my router dies if more then 200 connections go to it, so i gotta limit mien.
[13:12] <kanha> how to create a branch in launchpad for pushing a branch.
[13:12] <waser> why slower?
[13:12] <dr-lee> its  very much, 200 connections
[13:12] <DJredstar> hi! is the stable version of ubuntu 11.10 out yet? i cant find a download for it
[13:12] <dr-lee> i guess my lapotop would freeze then
[13:12] <dr_willis> DJredstar:  no its not.
[13:13] <bucaneiro> stable?
[13:13] <bindi> dr-lee: no it's really not :p
[13:13] <dr_willis> !party | DJredstar
[13:13] <dr-lee> ;)
[13:13] <dr_willis> have they changed the topic to 'no its not out yet'  :) yet....
[13:14] <popolon> so everything is frozen
[13:14] <popolon> impossible to have beta for today ?
[13:14] <popolon> perhaps on a mirror ???
[13:14] <dr_willis> popolon:   i updated and upgraded my beta just a few hrs ago. :)
[13:14] <dr-lee> sure..beta is there
[13:15] <dr_willis> so in a few days i will update to final
[13:15] <popolon> dr_willis, do you know an ubuntustudio mirror ?
[13:15] <bhush> hello friends how do i resolve blank screen error...???
[13:15] <dr-lee> i am afraid unity gets to heavy so i want lubuntu
[13:15] <dr_willis> popolon:  check their web site i guess. or the various iso sites out there.
[13:15] <popolon> my provider only has xubuntu/kubuntu/ubuntu
[13:15] <popolon> ok thanks
[13:15] <dr_willis> !iso
[13:15] <dr_willis> doh. :) wrong factoid
[13:15] <dr-lee> @bhush try cntrl + alt + F1
[13:16] <Reave-Magentium> * Checks optus Repo for Ubuntu, finds 11.10 Official ISO on list.... Me = Confused
[13:16] <dr-lee> if you can switch to another shell then there is hope ;)
[13:16] <dr_willis> Reave-Magentium:  its a placeholder file...
[13:16] <popolon> seem to have only cdimage.ubuntu.org link
[13:16] <socket> Reave-Magentium: mysql is not running, checked using ps aux. when i try to use mysqladmin i get the 'cant connect to local mysql through socket /var/run/mysqld/'
[13:16] <popolon> and the torrent tracker is blocked
[13:16] <bindi> I just downloaded ubuntu 10.10 release but apparently i'm not supposed to post the link.. lol
[13:16] <socket> so how do i start mysqld  ?
[13:16] <bindi> err
[13:17] <bindi> 11.10
[13:17] <dr_willis> I imagine the servers and stuff are getting updated..
[13:17] <popolon> I don't want to slow the process by downloading an iso from the ubuntu ftp
[13:17] <popolon> slowdown
[13:17] <dmsuperman> How can I configure metacity when I'm using unity-2d?
[13:17] <popolon> so I will wait
[13:17] <dr-lee> maybe the unetbootin is updated to 11.10 allready ;)
[13:17] <sbte> Announcement just sent out
[13:17] <dr_willis> popolon:  theres always   http://linuxtracker.org/
[13:17] <sbte> 11.10 is here
[13:17] <Reave-Magentium> socket try typing sudo /etc/init.d/mysqld start
[13:18] <hungryhubby> i want to edit xorg file can u tell me the location
[13:18] <lxku> OUT YES!!!!!!!!!!!!
[13:18] <hungryhubby> please
[13:18] <dr-lee> was that a bad advise of mine suggesting to switch to another shell when a black screen occurs?
[13:18] <dr_willis> hungryhubby:  /etc/X11/ IF it exists
[13:18] <Reave-Magentium> CONFIRMING = UBUNTU 11.10 IS HERE
[13:18] <Reave-Magentium> GO GET IT BOIS
[13:18] <FloodBot1> Reave-Magentium: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:18] <dr-lee> and BOTS hehehe
[13:18] <dr_willis> Reave-Magentium:  ive yet to see an official anoucement...
[13:18] <dr_willis> yet.. :)
[13:18] <hungryhubby> i cannot find xorg file in there /etc/x11
[13:18] <ededdy> Hi, I have just upgraded to ubuntu 11.10 from 11.04 and I after logging in, I get this error message "Could not update IEAuthority file..". I see a bug as well https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lightdm/+bug/823775
[13:18] <Reave-Magentium> ubuntu.com guys!!
[13:18] <dr_willis> hungryhubby:  i said IF it exists...
[13:18] <zykotick9> hungryhubby, it's not there by default
[13:18] <Reave-Magentium> ubuntu.com, officially announced!
[13:19] <dr_willis> hungryhubby:  default X setup dosent need one normally
[13:19] <ededdy> Did any one face this problem ?
[13:19] <hungryhubby> should we generate it
[13:19] <Reave-Magentium> Currently downloading the 11.10 OFFICIAL iso
[13:19] <DaerethMagentium> woooo
[13:19] <hungryhubby> where can i find
[13:19] <SDN> ubuntu just gave me the update window :)
[13:19] <Reave-Magentium> update time :P
[13:19] <lalala> yes
[13:19] <socket> Reave-Magentium: i dont have a script named mysqld under /etc/init.d
[13:19] <subz3r0> Is any1 running a AMD E350 APU with ubuntu? Ive installed the ati driver, but 1080p wont work
[13:19] <jetienne> the new ubuntu require 3D support ? or can i run it in a VM ?
[13:20] <lalala> its in the update manager
[13:20] <dr-lee> there is probably a 2d login
[13:20] <SDN> there is a 2d
[13:20] <Reave-Magentium> socket, did you compile it from source??
[13:20] <socket> i installed mysql server using apt-get
[13:20] <dr-lee> k
[13:21] <dmsuperman> How can I configure metacity when I'm using unity-2d?
[13:21] <dageriv> Is it possible to make my terminal window(gnome-terminal) executing ssh, to "blink" when someone on my irssi client mentions my nick(which is highlighted)?
[13:21] <bindi> why does the installer say this http://bindi.arkku.net/idontexist.png
[13:21] <shadow98> sudo apt-cache search libgd1g
[13:21] <socket> maybe i should try a manual install ?
[13:21] <shadow98> how do i find out what package that exist in
[13:21] <Reave-Magentium> socket yes, try doing sudo apt-get install mysql-server again
[13:22] <socket> shit, something's up with my ISP today... :/
[13:22] <socket> did i miss anything ?
[13:22] <Reave-Magentium> socket if you just did apt-get install mysql then it probably only installed the CLIENT files, not server
[13:23] <MonkeyDust> dageriv: http://linuxmanpages.com/man1/irssi.1.php
[13:23] <Reave-Magentium> anyone else still got Release Candidate upgrade in update-manager -d
[13:23] <Reave-Magentium> ??
[13:24] <popolon> http://ftp.sh.cvut.cz/MIRRORS/ubuntu-cdimage/ubuntustudio/releases/11.10/
[13:24] <popolon> cool, I found a mirror by seeks-searching
[13:24] <peto> what is different between alternate and desktop?
[13:24] <popolon> seeks-search really rocks :)
[13:25] <dmsuperman> How can I configure metacity when I'm using unity-2d?
[13:25] <popolon> Peto, you can install without x11 and on some special architecture
[13:25] <volante> is the thing that pops out on the left of screen in unity, called the "dash"?
[13:25] <volante> or "launcher"
[13:25] <Reave-Magentium> launcher i believe
[13:25] <popolon> peto, (I mean the installation process can be done without x11, but you can have x11 after
[13:25] <volante> i'm having problems with the launcher where sometimes it stays out, and doesnt go back
[13:26] <volante> also sometimes it doesnt want to pop out over firefox
[13:26] <Pessimist> f windows :P~
[13:26] <kanha> i fixed  a bug and now need to push it to launchpad but in dont know how to create a branch in launchpad for pushing modified branch to it.please help!
[13:26] <jetienne> q. is ubuntu 11.10 installable in a virtual machine ? does it require 3D support ?
[13:27] <Pici> t/opic
[13:27] <Pitel> okay, how to get back my thrusty gnome 2 in oneiric? ಠ_ಠ
[13:27] <peto> popolon: i think desktop is better ..hm
[13:27] <Pessimist> so oneiric by default doesn't use gnome 3 shell, uses gnome 2 shell with gnome 3 libs or what?
[13:27] <Pessimist> I don't get it
[13:27] <volante> anyone else had issues with the popout launcher on the left not retracting back?
[13:28] <arand> jetienne: It can run with unity-2d when acceleration isn't availale, if I remember correctly
[13:28] <arand> Pessimist: No, uses gnome3 with the Unity shell
[13:28] <dmsuperman> volante: The nature of the bug makes me think it's not high on the list of "must be fixed"
[13:28] <Pessimist> so are ati binary drivers compatable with unity shell on oneiric?
[13:29] <dmsuperman> volante: But it happens to me too
[13:29] <jetienne> arand: ok thanks
[13:29] <jetienne> another question: is unity mandatory ? or is there an alternative ?
[13:29] <robin0800> Pessimist, it uses gnome 3 without the shell if you install the shell you get gnome shell gnome classic and gnome classic no effects
[13:30] <jetienne> robin0800: ok so it is possible to run normal window ?
[13:30] <jetienne> robin0800: without unity i mean
[13:30] <Pessimist> my question is: Does the gnome shell or the libraries make or don't make ati binary drivers incompatable with oneiric?
[13:30] <robbit10> Is the 64-bit version of Ubuntu 11.10 usable for home and production use, or am I better off using Ubuntu 32-bit?
[13:31] <robin0800> jetienne, yes if you install gnome shell
[13:31] <Umberts> salve a tutti
[13:31] <Pici> !it | Umberts
[13:31] <saxin> robbit10: should work great
[13:31] <Umberts> ok, thanks
[13:31] <shadow98> sudo apt-cache search libgd1g <---- how do i find where this package exist?
[13:31]  * phlak_user is downloading 11.10 via torrent
[13:31] <Umberts> :D
[13:31] <Harmonium> Hello. I've just been prompted to update to 11.10. Is GNOME 2 still there in Oneiric? Does it still work?
[13:31] <robbit10> saxin: what about things like Flash, Java, etc? I've heard those could have a few problems with 64-bit.
[13:32] <iuytfr> dthacker: how to check the actual system time ?
[13:32] <bbbbbbbb> i have this usb cardreader "04fc:5602 Sunplus Technology Co., Ltd " - it shows up in lsusb but i can't access the card.
[13:32] <popolon> found lot of mirrors of ubuntu, but ubuntustudio is more hard to find
[13:32] <zykotick9> shadow98, (side note) apt-cache doesn't need sudo
[13:32] <popolon> and the tcheque one is really slow :(
[13:32] <xranby> robbit10: start by assuming everything work and party!
[13:33] <saxin> robbit10: Newest Flash in partner-rep, java had no problem with that
[13:33] <zykotick9> Harmonium, i doubt it... say good by to gnome2 if you upgrade
[13:33] <robbit10> saxin: excellent :D
[13:33]  * robbit10 is off to install Ubuntu 11.10
[13:33] <phlak_user> bbbbbbbb: did it get mounted?
[13:33] <arand> Where can I find more info about the virtual tour that's available on the ubuntu.com page, I don't seem to find the corresponding LP project...
[13:33] <Harmonium> zykotick9: oh, that's sad. I'll stick with the olde one, then. Thanks. :)
[13:34] <bbbbbbbb> phlak_user: no, nothing happens which is odd
[13:35] <datalay> how can i remove a package with no deps
[13:36] <datalay> with apt-get
[13:36] <datalay> apt-get autoremove  or remove uninstalls deps
[13:36] <kanha> while pushing a branch after fixing a bug to launchpad am getting error which i pasted at http://pastebin.com/5QVNqwhP how to get through it..
[13:36] <zykotick9> datalay, what package are you trying to remove?
[13:37] <datalay> i try to remove cgi-mapserver
[13:37] <datalay> with nodeps
[13:37] <phlak_user> bbbbbbbb: the logs should tell you what the issue is; dmesg will have some indication
[13:37] <zhiqiang> hi
[13:37] <zhiqiang> hello
[13:38] <office1> why do we have to create bogus email info in order to use the calendar?
[13:38] <Asurah> Hello
[13:38] <zhiqiang> 俄。。
[13:38] <zhiqiang> 汗。。
[13:38] <phlak_user> !cn | zhiqiang
[13:38] <zhiqiang> 有人没有说点汉语。。翻译太麻烦了
[13:38] <hungryhubby> i want to put some lines inside xorg file
[13:38] <Asurah> I have a problem with installing Ubuntu, tried to install it last night but it seems that something is wrong when booting it
[13:38] <dmsuperman> How can I configure metacity when I'm using unity-2d?
[13:38] <hungryhubby> can anybody tell me the location of xorg
[13:38] <Yamauchi> zhiqiang: I agree entirely
[13:38] <Asurah> it seems to be stuck somewhere between the BIOS and the OS boto
[13:38] <Asurah> boot*
[13:39] <bbbbbbbb> phlak_user: where in dmesg do i find it?
[13:39] <Stradivarius> Asurah: Did cou check the md5-checksum of your dvd?
[13:39] <phlak_user> hungryhubby: /etc/X11
[13:39] <zykotick9> hungryhubby, (you've already been told) --  a) /etc/X11/xorg.conf b) it's not there by defaults anymore
[13:39] <Asurah> Stradivarius - Uh, no, just created it with Windows 7 image burner
[13:39] <zhiqiang> ho
[13:39] <phlak_user> bbbbbbbb: if you check the lines following this -> 04fc:5602 Sunplus Technology Co., Ltd
[13:39] <rufong> hi ya'll system:win7/11.10b2, 64bit messed up /etc/grub.d how can i reinstall it?
[13:40] <zhiqiang> mygod
[13:40] <Stradivarius> Asurah you shoud definitely check it. probably sth went wrong with downloading/burning.
[13:40] <hungryhubby> yes i cannot find xorg in /etc/x11
[13:40] <hungryhubby> how do i generate it
[13:40] <Asurah> Stradivarius how do I do that?
[13:41] <zhiqiang> 我英文实在很烂  照顾以下。。
[13:41] <zhiqiang> 谢谢拉
[13:41] <hungryhubby> or is there any way to put some lines in xorg file
[13:41] <rufong> hi ya'll system:win7/11.10b2, 64bit messed up /etc/grub.d/05_debian_theme how can i reinstall it?
[13:41] <Asurah> And I also tried it with a couple different versions of Ubuntu
[13:41] <Stradivarius> Asurah However, without an error-message nobody will able to help you when the sum is correct.
[13:41] <Asurah> the 32, 64 bit
[13:41] <zhiqiang> 32bit
[13:41] <bbbbbbbb> phlak_user: http://paste.ubuntu.com/707340/
[13:41] <Asurah> Stradivarius that's the thing, no error message
[13:42] <Asurah> seems to be booting fine, goes through BIOS ok, recognizes HDD, but just no boot
[13:42] <Stradivarius> Asurah look for the most convenient method on google. I'm not sure. You can find the correct checksum on the download-site
[13:42] <thiebaude> !alternate
[13:42] <phlak_user> bbbbbbbb: it appears to be sdb (but no partitions?) is this a new/fresh disk?
[13:42] <hungryhubby> !x.org
[13:43] <hungryhubby> !xorg.conf
[13:43] <bbbbbbbb> phlak_user: the last time i checked it was a camera's cf card with some pictures on it, so i doubt that. maybe it's broken, but my camera didn't complain
[13:44] <blastermaster> in the main page of ubuntu it says its out!
[13:44] <g[r]eek> How do I check which version of Ubuntu I'm running
[13:44] <lekundyao> am looking for router  configuration
[13:44] <dotty> need a http d/l? feel free to use my seed: http://<IP_ADDRESS>/ubuntu-11.10-desktop-i386.iso  (please reseed if you can and preferably use torrents instead, saving this seed for people who need http)
[13:44] <Asurah> Stradivarius - should I download something like FastSum?
[13:44] <phlak_user> bbbbbbbb: you can mount it manually like so ->(in your home directory) mkdir camdisk; mount /dev/sdb camdisk
[13:45] <HackNewton> hello
[13:45] <phlak_user> g[r]eek: lsb_release -a
[13:45] <dmsuperman> g[r]eek: lsb_release -a
[13:45] <dmsuperman> damnit hah
[13:45] <g[r]eek> what does lsb stand for?
[13:45] <g[r]eek> I struggle to remember that command
[13:45] <Junglenoo> hello
[13:45] <dmsuperman> g[r]eek: from the manpage: NAME
[13:45] <dmsuperman>        lsb_release - print distribution-specific information
[13:45] <Stradivarius> Asurah I'm not sure, but when it seems reliable to you, you should do so. I don't know windows-software for this purpose myself.
[13:45] <Guest18577> hello
[13:45] <g[r]eek> Ah I see "Linux Standard Base"
[13:46] <office1> why do we have to create bogus email info in order to use the calendar?
[13:46] <phlak_user> office1: do we?
[13:46] <HackNewton> from my last boot my updating is not working
[13:46] <HackNewton> any solution ?
[13:46] <g[r]eek> ok next question, I'm running Ubuntu 10.04, and Vim version 7.2 is currently installed. I want to install Vim 7.3, but when I try apt-get install vim it says it's already on the newest version. What can I do to get Vim 7.3? Thanks
[13:47] <dr_willis> HackNewton:  i imagine the servers are a bit overloaded with the new release.
[13:47] <Asurah> I also tried to use Wibu to install it with Windows, but I don't get any OS boot choice, just goes straight to Windows
[13:47] <bbbbbbbb> phlak_user: now the cursor flashes in the line below but nothing  happens.
[13:47] <phlak_user> g[r]eek: download it manually and install
[13:47] <phlak_user> bbbbbbbb: what did you type?
[13:47] <dr_willis> g[r]eek:  if 7.2 is the newest in the repos.. then thats the newest it will install..
[13:47] <bbbbbbbb> phlak_user: i also tried to open grarted, it won't open as long as the card is connected
[13:47] <dr_willis> g[r]eek:  there may be ppa's of newer versions , or you could use source.
[13:47] <BluesKaj> HackNewton, still no updates in the repos today
[13:48] <HackNewton> dr_willis, i doubt it its giving error source is untrusty
[13:48] <phlak_user> bbbbbbbb: can you paste output of sudo fdisk -l /dev/sdb
[13:48] <g[r]eek> ok thanks
[13:48] <lekundyao> thanks they release 11.10
[13:48] <edgy> Hi, I booted oneiric kubuntu and I only have the splash, tty1 shows error like cannot mount /cdrom or similar message
[13:48] <dr_willis> HackNewton:  sounds like a key may have changed.
[13:48] <Guest18577> *
[13:48] <dr_willis> edgy:  you mean you are booting a live cd. you did check the md5 sum after downloading it?
[13:49] <edgy> dr_willis: I booted a live usb
[13:49] <dr_willis> edgy:  and you did check the md5sum of the iso file?
[13:49] <edgy> dr_willis: i downloaded with zsync so I ams ure it's correct
[13:49] <bbbbbbbb> phlak_user: http://paste.ubuntu.com/707344/
[13:50] <dr_willis> id double check. and i think theres some verify files option on the f6 menu of the installer.
[13:50] <rufong> hi ya'll system:win7/11.10b2, 64bit messed up /etc/grub.d/05_debian_theme, now update-grub hangs.. how can i reinstall it?
[13:50] <dr_willis> edgy:  this is the desktop or server  version?
[13:50] <edgy> dr_willis: desktop
[13:50] <phlak_user> bbbbbbbb: aha! can you change that manual mount command to mount /dev/sdb1 camdisk
[13:50] <phlak_user> bbbbbbbb: its a 64MB disk ;)
[13:51] <bbbbbbbb> phlak_user: yeah, an ancient piece of technology ^
[13:51] <edgy> dr_willis: i think in ubuntu there is a way to pass kernel args like noacpi but it's not clear how to even do this in kubuntu
[13:51] <dr_willis> !nosplash | edgy
[13:51] <dr_willis> edgy:  same way - at the grub menus
[13:51] <dr_willis> or syslinux, or whatever its using. :)
[13:51] <dr_willis> Seems the bot is lagged.
[13:52] <edgy> dr_willis: druing installation there is no grub menu
[13:52] <bbbbbbbb> phlak_user: well, works fine now, great! thanks
[13:52] <phlak_user> bbbbbbbb: yw
[13:52] <dr_willis> edgy:  when it first boots up theres a man/keyboard logo.. hit space.. hit f5 or f6 i recall..
[13:53] <edgy> dr_willis: sorry I was confused, when I boot the usb, it shows options like start kubuntu, test memory, boot from drive, you mean before this  step?
[13:53] <dr_willis> edgy:  yes.
[13:54] <destinydriven> would this trick still work on 11.10? http://clouddenizen.com/2011/06/01/ubuntu-unity-launcher-for-aptana-studio/
[13:54] <ghasem> ythbrtbh
[13:55] <edgy> dr_willis: I will go try it in the other room and come back ...
[13:55] <ghasem> wht is the command register on IRC?
[13:55] <dr_willis> !nomodeset
[13:55] <subone> When I turn on my laptop with my external monitor plugged in the monitor turns off. I can usually get it back on if I log off and back on once or twice. How can I troubleshoot this issue?
[13:55] <dr_willis> !register | ghasem
[13:56] <dr_willis> subone:  whats the video chipset?
[13:56] <rxt0> Hi there, I'm trying to download ubuntu 11.10 via torrent but there aren't any seeders/peers!
[13:56] <dr_willis> rxt0:  give it some time. it just came out.
[13:56] <ViccieB> what is the md5sum for ubuntu-11.10-desktop-amd64.iso ?
[13:56] <subz3r0>  #ubuntu-release-party
[13:56] <phlak_user> rxt0: ive got like 175 seeders and 72 peers right now
[13:56] <dr_willis> !torrents
[13:56] <subz3r0> 11.10 is NOT OUT YET
[13:57] <ViccieB> it is!!!!
[13:57] <phlak_user> subz3r0: it is
[13:57] <Arnold> rxt0, have you also gave a mirror download a try?
[13:57] <phlak_user> subz3r0: look at the topic of this channel ;)
[13:57] <subz3r0> http://www.thisisthecountdown.com/
[13:57] <Arnold> ViccieB, 62fb5d750c30a27a26d01c5f3d8df459
[13:57] <rxt0> got seeders XP sorry
[13:57] <DJones> subz3r0: It is, it was offically announced at 14:15 uk time
[13:57] <dr_willis> subz3r0:  http://www.ubuntu.com/    '11.10 is here'
[13:57] <Reave-Magentium> :) Currnetly downloading at 1mb /ps :P
[13:57] <Reave-Magentium> Confirming it is indeed out :)
[13:58] <DaerethMagentium> Currently seeding torrent at 2.3MB/s
[13:58] <Reave-Magentium> Will seed the official torrrent all night for all your people who want it ^_^
[13:58] <Arnold> http://www.ubuntu.com/tour anyone? :P
[13:58]  * phlak_user is downloading at 60 KB/s (480 Kb/s)
[13:58] <rufong> hi ya'll system:win7/11.10b2, 64bit messed up /etc/grub.d/05_debian_theme, now update-grub hangs.. how can i reinstall it? if i delete it, will the system regenerate it? hehe
[13:59] <deem> rufong: you can reconfigure grub-common or grub-pc depending on which version of grub you have installed
[14:00] <dr_willis> you could always reinstall grub package via apt-get , or find the grub deb and get the file from it.
[14:00] <rxt0> does Kubuntu ship with kwin's OpenGL ES backend?
[14:00] <stepnjump> somsip, I found it
[14:01] <Wiz_KeeD> hey guys how do i search a folder and it's subfolders for string "attrs="{'invisible'" with grep?
[14:01] <Arnold> rxt0, it does.
[14:01] <stepnjump> somsip, I will write a manual how to do it... I'll send it to you in a few days. Just keep your eyes on your memoserv
[14:01] <Arnold> Just install kde-window-manager-gles.
[14:02] <rxt0> sweet, thanks Arnold
[14:02] <Chotaz`Work> Hey everyone, how safe is it to upgrade my ubuntu 11.04 via SSH?
[14:02] <Arnold> You're welcome rxt0.
[14:02] <deem> rufong: pls dont qry me. we can talk here
[14:02] <edgy> dr_willis: you are right, f6 works though it should be mentioned somewhere! Anyway, I tried different options but still cannot boot, the error is exactly - umount: can't mount /cdrom
[14:02] <rufong> deem: understood
[14:02] <stepnjump> Gentlemen, is there a way to view the trash can using the command line
[14:03] <stepnjump> Couldn't be trash:/// ???
[14:03] <esteeven_> Hello. How can I disable services at start up e.g. bluetooth?
[14:03] <rufong> dr_willis: danke, i'll try that
[14:03] <Pici> !trash | stepnjump
[14:03] <Darael> Wiz_KeeD: grep -r "attrs=\"{'invisible'" /path/to/folder, perhaps?  At a guess.  You may need to escape a few more characters.
[14:04] <Wiz_KeeD> hmm
[14:04] <Wiz_KeeD> thanks
[14:04] <iuytfr> how to check the system ?
[14:04] <stepnjump> Thanks Pici
[14:04] <Pici> stepnjump: np
[14:04] <iuytfr> system time
[14:04] <arvut> hello =)
[14:04] <arvut> happy upgrading!!
[14:05] <Wiz_KeeD> hmm
[14:05] <Wiz_KeeD> Darael, can i make it verbose so it displays results as it finds stuff?
[14:05]  * arvut going to offtopic, got nothing to add yet..
[14:05] <Darael> Wiz_KeeD: My memory is that it prints each match as it finds it.
[14:05] <subone> dr_willis, lspci reports 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 2nd Generation Core Processor Family Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 09)
[14:05] <Wiz_KeeD> then it didn't find anything and it keeps searching
[14:05] <luckymurali> Hi, Unexpectedly I deleted the var/lib folder.Is there any way to restore it again?
[14:05] <luckymurali> please help me out
[14:07] <xlin3r> hi
[14:07] <SIFTU> luckymurali: deleted it how?
[14:08] <luckymurali> rm -rf *
[14:08] <Pessimist> Can I get some support?
[14:08] <Reave-Magentium> oh god... that command is hel on everything
[14:08] <Reave-Magentium> Pessimist whats up ?
[14:08] <MAREK_BENC_NetB> I know there is Wubi, but is there anykond of Lubi, so i can install windows to a image and boot it?
[14:08] <Pessimist> http://phoronix.com/forums/showthread.php?50038-Updated-and-Optimized-Ubuntu-Free-Graphics-Drivers
[14:08] <Pessimist> can I apply these commands to install xorg video ati from ppa?
[14:08] <Pessimist> in 11.10
[14:08] <SIFTU> luckymurali: well then I dont like your chances
[14:08] <Wiz_KeeD> doens't work
[14:08] <datalay> i installed all tiff and geotiff packages on ubuntu, but  i cant see tiff support on cgi-mapserver, i check it with : mapserv -v
[14:08] <Wiz_KeeD> grep -r 'a'
[14:08] <datalay> i need INPUT=tiff geotiff support
[14:09] <datalay> i removed and re installed cgi-mapserver but result is not changed
[14:09] <luckymurali> I remember once there is chance to recover it on Ubuntu
[14:09] <Pessimist> P.S. The new login, unity design is nice
[14:10] <Pessimist> http://phoronix.com/forums/showthread.php?50038-Updated-and-Optimized-Ubuntu-Free-Graphics-Drivers Can I apply these commands on Ubuntu 11.10 to install xorg radeon drivers from ppa?
[14:11] <ededdy> 7~Anyone upgraded to ubuntu 11.10 has an issues logging in ?
[14:11] <Pessimist> ededdy, I don't have any issues
[14:11] <Pessimist> what issue do you have?
[14:11] <popolon> ededdy, do you upgraded from 11.04 ?
[14:12] <ededdy> popolon: yes
[14:12] <bloodynight> i know it isnt related to ubuntu but is there any way to use compiz effects on xubuntu ?!
[14:12] <Pessimist> http://phoronix.com/forums/showthread.php?50038-Updated-and-Optimized-Ubuntu-Free-Graphics-Drivers Can I apply these commands on Ubuntu 11.10 to install xorg radeon drivers from ppa?
[14:12] <Kre10s> hello. Is it possible to simulate the plymouth loading screen? or do I need to reboot to see it?
[14:15] <MonkeyDust> Kre10s: you can use qemu
[14:15] <City17> Hi, how much ram is recommended to get the most of Ubuntu 11.10 and Unity?
[14:15] <Guest22783> some thoughts about 11.10.....I am still on 10.10 i did Not try Unity....should i install it or wait?
[14:16] <SIFTU> luckymurali: personally I would reinstall.
[14:16] <Guest22783> why? :D
[14:16] <bhush> from where I can download ubuntu 11.10?????????????????
[14:16] <Darael> Guest22783: Why not use a liveCD to give it a try?  Safety of not moving, and the chance to test it.  Best of both worlds.
[14:16] <dotty> need http? feel free to use my seed: http://<IP_ADDRESS>/ubuntu-11.10-desktop-i386.iso  (please reseed if you can and preferably use torrents instead, saving this seed for people who need http) (please let me know what kind of speeds you're getting if you use this)
[14:16] <sonicated> I've upgraded to Oneiric but now my VM will not boot. It stalls after mounting the drives. If I follow the OMGBroken instructions, type "mount / -o rw,remount" and then exec init it will boot but will fail on the next boot. Can anyone advise me on how to resolve this please?
[14:17] <LjL> bhush: tried http://ubuntu.com/ ?
[14:17] <zmbmartin> is anyone having a problem with unity being behind windows when bringing the computer out of sleep? If I start my laptop from sleep unity and all things related like alt-tab are behind any windows I have open.
[14:17] <luckymurali> SIFTU, I feel can I cownload that dpkg.tar.gz file and restore it
[14:17] <Darael> bhush: specifically, http://www.ubuntu.com/download/ubuntu/download
[14:18] <ScottyEdmonds> im loving the improvments of Oneiric, but i can't add a menu item in menu editor :(
[14:18] <compdoc> you guys think its safe to upgrade 11.04 to 11.10? OR should it be a fresh install
[14:18] <SIFTU> luckymurali: it's your install, do what you want. are you restoring from backup
[14:18] <leuty> Hi, I got redirected from the #Kubuntu and #Ubuntu+1channel. I need help with todays update of Kubuntu 11.04->11.10. is this the right place?
[14:18] <ScottyEdmonds> fresh install will most likely work better ;)
[14:18] <MAREK_BENC_NetB> compdoc: It should be problemless
[14:19] <ghostnik11> where would the printer drivers be on ubuntu, b/c i installed the driver for a canon mp560 and will do a fresh install of ubuntu 11.10 so wanted to find out where are the drivers for it on my system so i can back it up to external
[14:19] <Darael> compdoc: The upgrade process is pretty safe, as a rule, but you might as well make a backup anyway, as you'd have to for a reinstall - just in case.  It's highly unlikely you'll have any major issues.
[14:19] <dotty> personally i recommend doing a fresh install if you can
[14:19] <compdoc> thanks
[14:19] <sonicated> compdoc: the upgrade has stopped my server from booting :(
[14:19] <luckymurali> SIFTU, I am not able to get the backup
[14:20] <luckymurali> thats y im struggling
[14:20] <webroasters> hi guys. you're all familiar with the notify bubble at the top right of the desktop, correct? Is there an app that will use that notify bubble when I receive new RSS feed links?
[14:20] <Darael> webroasters: Specto does that, iirc.
[14:20] <dotty> webroasters, i think 'liferea' does
[14:20] <webroasters> ok. thanks.
[14:20] <SIFTU> luckymurali: reinstall, those files are installed via the package manager, you wont know what versions you have etc
[14:20] <dotty> liferea puts a notification in unity too
[14:20] <dotty> a little circle with the number of new stories
[14:21] <Darael> webroasters: Specto is nice if you don't want to change your feed reader, especially since it can watch all sorts of things, not just RSS feeds.
[14:21] <ghostnik11> can anyone tell me where the tomboy notes files are? i want to back them up too
[14:21] <webroasters> yeah, im looking at specto right now, it looks exactly like what I wanted
[14:21] <Pessimist> Yeah, the drivers work. How to open a new server tab in XChat?
[14:21] <Darael> webroasters: OTOH, liferea will give more detailed and potentially useful information.
[14:21] <webroasters> i do so much stuff that i need something like that to manage everything
[14:21] <ljsoftnet> is it ok to upgrade xubuntu 11.04 to 11.10
[14:21] <tarelerulz> I have Ubuntu 10.10 and windows 7 and I store movies on  the window's ntfs partition and the files have been missing up . Like showing 0 kb .   Has anyone else had this problem
[14:22] <webroasters> dareal, I was looking for something more like specto because I have other issues as well that I need to take care of., but I appreciate the info for liferea, I'll check it out
[14:22] <webroasters> thanks guys, you've been a big help
[14:22] <Darael> webroasters: Happy to help.  Also, a hint for IRC - one can complete a partially-typed nick with the tab key.  Saves typing :P
[14:23] <Pessimist> Need to get used to the Unity :/
[14:24] <Promethes> hi everyone, does Ubuntu 11.10 allow to install gnome-shell without dependency problems?
[14:24] <szal> tarelerulz: check the filesystem from within Windows
[14:24] <Pessimist> 20% cpu on 360p video on youtube
[14:24] <Pessimist> lol
[14:25] <Darael> Promethes: My understanding is yes... but you might want to wait for someone who's actually tried it to report back!
[14:25] <tarelerulz> szal ,  I did windows checks the file system and look for mess up and  it checked everything and then It said it removed my file.
[14:26] <pangolin> !notunity | Promethes
[14:26] <auronandace> Promethes: it should just be a matter of changing your session when you log in (unity is built on top of gnome3 in 11.10)
[14:26] <Promethes> Darael: i tried with 11.10 beta 2 and daily builds couple of days ago and there was no way to install gnome-shell, many dependencies were unsolvable
[14:26] <zmbmartin> Do I use FGLRX graphics driver or FGLRX graphics driver (post-release updates)?
[14:27] <Darael> Promethes: I would be surprised if that's not been resolved before release.
[14:27] <ghostnik11> can a person backup ppa's in ubuntu?
[14:27] <edbian> zmbmartin: try 'em both and see which works better
[14:27] <trojaner> whats a pps?
[14:27]  * joelio is downgrading from 11.10 to 11.04 - what a complete waste of time
[14:27] <trojaner> ppa?
[14:27] <codebeaker> why is /etc/security/limits.conf ignored on Ubuntu 10.4 ?
[14:27] <Promethes> downloading 11.10 now, i will install it in virtual box and try
[14:27] <Darael> !ppa | trojaner
[14:27] <arghx> ghostnik11: every package you download is saved in /var/cache/apt/archives/ unless you clean that directory
[14:28] <trojaner> ppa = trojan
[14:28] <arghx> joelio: you cannot downgrade :P
[14:28] <arghx> trojaner: no
[14:28] <joelio> arghx: Pin packages, I think I can
[14:28]  * amoskong upgrading to 11.10 ...
[14:28] <Darael> trojaner: Not necessarily, no.  In theory, possibly, but in practice, pretty much no.
[14:28] <trojaner> PPAs are unsupported third-party packages, and you use them at your own risk.
[14:28] <ghostnik11> arghx: thanks will check there, trojaner: what ppa = trojan even though i was the one who put them on my self
[14:28] <arghx> joelio: no you cannot. and if you do, no one sane will ever support that installation again cause it will break in new and mysterious ways
[14:29] <toman> hi, where can i find this menu on ubuntu 11.10 ? http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSLLsCqiwjYgXOKkiWNUkajNf0GZ1JumFl1IyssYLd8IUVMqkfuyQzr-43c
[14:29] <Pessimist> Are opensource drivers better than propertiary ones for evergreen cards on 11.10?
[14:29] <joelio> arghx: As opposed to upgrading to 11.10 an all manner of crap gnome3/unity balls breaking in even more unknown ways!
[14:29] <Darael> trojaner: That doesn't make them trojans.  It means that potentially, a malicious user could put a trojan in a PPA.  This is why we use PPAs from entities of good repute.
[14:29] <linziyan> i  want  help
[14:29] <Darael> joelio: As they say, All Software Sucks.
[14:29] <Pessimist> does compiz work normally with binary ati drivers on 11.10? :) Please answer
[14:29] <Darael> !help | linziyan
[14:29] <arghx> Pessimist: they are slower. they are getting better over time but not as fast as fglrx. opensource ones are better adapter (especially over time) to X tho
[14:29] <arghx> Pessimist: yes they do
[14:30] <NoelJB> akgraner, did you get a chance to test that problem?
[14:30] <linziyan> thanks。。。
[14:30] <Pessimist> does firefox scrolling lag a lot on the binary drivers like old times?
[14:30] <Pessimist> that is the most annoying thing on fglrx drivers..
[14:30] <linziyan> i  need  help   some  who has time to  help with  my  nvidia  driver   ,  thanks
[14:30] <joelio> Darael: Yea, true.. I'm really understanding the meaning of if it ain't broke, don't fix it after the mess of 11.10
[14:30] <arghx> joelio: upgrading ubuntu immediately when it comes out is foolish. wait 2-4 weeks and then upgrade and most/all growing pains are over. but if you have SNS, then I guess you like to suffer
[14:31] <akgraner> NoelJB, not yet - gotta finish something..
[14:31] <popolon> bye
[14:31] <linziyan> the NVIDIA kernel module has version 280.13,but this NVIDIA driver component has version 285.05.09.
[14:31] <Pessimist> arghx, no pain no gain
[14:31] <Pessimist> :)
[14:31] <joelio> arghx: Why, will gnome2 be in 11.10 in a few weeks?
[14:31] <tarelerulz> I have nvidia myself  and  I install the latest ,but never really see a different in how things work
[14:31] <toman> hi, where can i find this menu on ubuntu 11.10 ? http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSLLsCqiwjYgXOKkiWNUkajNf0GZ1JumFl1IyssYLd8IUVMqkfuyQzr-43c ? I really need to change the movement button and i cant find where :D
[14:31] <arghx> joelio: no it does not. but if you expected gnome2 in 11.10 you are (sorry) a moron. it was ALWAYS made very clear that gnome2 never would be in 11.10 and onwards
[14:31] <auronandace> joelio: gnome2 is no longer supported in 11.10
[14:32] <linziyan> who  can  tell me  how to do with  this  problem?
[14:32] <linziyan> i  can not start my  hon ,it  show  this
[14:32] <linziyan> this
[14:32] <arghx> you need to check before you upgrade to what you upgrade. if you don't, don't complain about the results
[14:32] <NoelJB> joelio, no, TPB decided to remove support for the only fully functional Gnome UI.
[14:32] <ghostnik11> one quick question i have fedora 15 installed on my hard drive, will ubuntu 11.10 wipe out that partition when i do a fresh install
[14:32] <mikeru> heey where's the amd64+mac iso? :S
[14:32] <toman> linziyan, what's the problem with hon ?
[14:32] <Darael> NoelJB: Upstream dropped it.
[14:33] <toman> im on 11.10 and it works fine
[14:33] <NoelJB> Forcing everyone to use Unity is supposed to help it improve quality by generating discourse.
[14:33] <joelio> arghx: Yea, going to stick with Debian I reckon. 'Classic' gnome3 is a bag of balls.. having to install tweak tools, just to change my font size.. give me a break :)
[14:33] <arghx> ghostnik11: no. you can install both side by side
[14:33] <auronandace> ghostnik11: no, learn how to partition
[14:33] <arvut> ghostnik11: should be able to install side by side with no issues
[14:33] <andyn> if i install 10.11, can i get rid of unity and use plain gnome3 instead?
[14:33] <Pessimist> Am I dumb that there is no refresh rate settings on screen settings dialog? Lol
[14:33] <andyn> 11.10 that is.
[14:33] <NoelJB> Darael, I didn't say that Canonical made the decision.
[14:33] <Pessimist>  there is no refresh rate setting on screen settings dialog?
[14:33] <ghostnik11> arghx: okay b/c i have it chain booted to 11.04 ubuntu on my hard drive
[14:33] <Darael> NoelJB: True enough.
[14:33] <arghx> joelio: debian will ship with gnome3 in wheezy too. tho wheezy is 1-2 years off of course... gnome2 will go away just like kde3 did. no way around that, sorry
[14:33] <NoelJB> Darael, Canonical made the relatively wise decision to develop Unity rather than use that steaming pile of Gnome Shell.
[14:33] <joelio> arghx: Then it's on to flux or xfce or something sane then
[14:33] <arghx> Pessimist: which driver do you use?
[14:34] <joelio> .. until then
[14:34] <Pessimist> arghx, newest xorg ati from ppa
[14:34] <jamey-uk> where can I go to talk about libvirt and virtualization?
[14:34] <arghx> Pessimist: radeon or fglrx?
[14:34] <Pessimist> radeon
[14:34] <arghx> Pessimist: try xrandr maybe?
[14:34] <ghostnik11> just in case i will back up stuff i need in my fedora 15 partition just  to cover my self
[14:34] <Pessimist> I will try, It is just bizarre
[14:34] <arvut> so no pure gnome3 in ocelot? what a disappointment =(
[14:34] <auronandace> Pessimist: we don't provide support for ppa's here
[14:35] <ghostnik11> thanks guys can't wait to install ubuntu 11.10
[14:35] <NoelJB> arvut, there is Gnome Shell for 11.10, if you're so inclined as to suffer with it.
[14:35] <auronandace> arvut: what do you mean? you should be able to change the session at login
[14:35] <arvut> but I'll try it anyway, liked ubuntu since first try, back in 8.04
[14:35] <NoelJB> I figure that the choices are either  Unity or KDE.
[14:35] <joelio> arghx: ...  plus don't you think they'll be a fork of gnome2 for long term support. I mean I don't need any more bells and whistles. Compiz is enough for that. I think judging by the fact that I've not found 1 person who like either gnome3 or unity yet also adds weight to this.
[14:36] <arvut> still.. there is something magical about lucid.. prrrrr those catz.. =)
[14:36] <NoelJB> joelio, I heard that there is a fork called mate.
[14:36] <arghx> joelio: no there won't be. especially not for "Long term support". gnome2 is a dead codebasse, deal with it
[14:36] <pis0ga> i'm upgrading, hope it fine :D
[14:36] <arghx> NoelJB: there was a kde3 fork too. but these are all rearguard actions
[14:36] <andeeeuk> 11.10 is no i the update manager :)
[14:36] <NoelJB> mate: http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=OTgxMA
[14:36] <joelio> arghx: only time will tell I guess ;)
[14:37] <tacitcal> just switch to xfce, it's the new gnome2.
[14:37] <arvut> slightly confused, are you refeering to gnome 2.28-2.32 when you say gnome2? or just some old version of v2?
[14:37] <edbian> tacitcal: for sure :)
[14:38] <ScottyEdmonds> Main Menu won't let me add a new item :(
[14:38] <melter> has anyone had problems with X crashing after entering the root password?
[14:38] <renancoelho> Hi there, where can i get help with ubuntu hulu?
[14:38] <joelio> tacitcal: Yea, I really liked it when I used it about 7-8 years ago.. but I prefer compiz window handling tools and customisations
[14:38] <sonicated> I've upgraded to Oneiric but now my VM will not boot. It stalls after mounting the drives. If I follow the OMGBroken instructions, type "mount / -o rw,remount" and then exec init it will boot but will fail on the next boot. Can anyone advise me on how to resolve this please?
[14:38] <NoelJB> arghx, yes, I agree.  Either Unity has to get better, or more people will switch to KDE.
[14:38] <MeanEYE> Can I use unetbootin to create bootable Ubuntu USB, and then install from it?
[14:39] <MeanEYE> Sorry, use unetbootin from windows.
[14:39] <MAREK_BENC_NetB> MeanEYE: Yep
[14:39] <MeanEYE> Okay, thanks.
[14:39] <Darael> KDE is not significantly better than Gnome, whether using Shell or Unity.  But I would say that.  I'm an e fan.
[14:39] <NoelJB> sonicated, you might need to provide more info.  For example, I use many virtual machines with VMware Workstation, and as of V8, there are no issues with Oneiric.
[14:39] <MAREK_BENC_NetB> MeanEYE: And you can also install a bootloader on a USB stick (Grub or LiLo), unpack the iso, and do some black magic
[14:40] <sonicated> NoelJB: It's a bytemark.co.uk vm, I've never had a problem with an upgrade before
[14:40] <MeanEYE> MAREK_BENC_NetB: I have Mint 11, and I can easily make bootable USB. Am asking for another person who uses windows and want's to try Unity first hand. :D
[14:40] <Darael> MAREK_BENC_NetB: It's hardly black magic.  /Deep/ magic, possibly.
[14:40] <MonkeyDust> from now on 11.10 support here?
[14:41] <sonicated> MonkeyDust: According to the guys in #ubuntu+1, yes
[14:41] <Darael> MonkeyDust: Indeed.  All stable releases (that haven't hit EOL) are supported in here, so now that Oneiric's been released, this is the channel.
[14:41] <MonkeyDust> ok, issue 1: in 11.10, unity, i am unable to see chromium-browser in the menu
[14:42] <airtonix> :< I am unable to install padevchooser
[14:42] <BadLarry> how is the upgrade from 11.04 to 11.10 going? has it been smooth?
[14:42] <MonkeyDust> i can launch chromium-browser manually
[14:42] <airtonix> MonkeyDust: apart from : alt+f2, type: chromium-browser ?
[14:43] <NoelJB> MonkeyDust, you first have to go to the dock and run it, then you can ask for it to be pinned to the menu.l
[14:43] <MonkeyDust> airtonix: chromium won't launch, i tried it
[14:43] <airtonix> MonkeyDust: or Super Key : chrom <vis chrome in list, hit enter >
[14:43] <joelio> BadLarry: Personally, for me, it's been a nightmare. I'm downgrading / reinstalling on 11.04
[14:43] <joelio> ymmv!
[14:43] <NoelJB> MonkeyDust, WFM.  I've got FF, Chromium and Chrome all running.
[14:43] <MonkeyDust> airtonix: chromium is not in the list, really strange
[14:43] <Polah> joelio: How so?
[14:44] <BadLarry> joelio: really?! good to know. What machine are you running on? I am on a thinkpad T520.
[14:44] <airtonix> MonkeyDust: i did install chrome and chromium from dev channel ppas and deb
[14:44] <NoelJB> MonkeyDust, click on the Ubuntu symbol, type "ch" in the search dialog, and you should find it.
[14:44] <BluesKaj> MonkeyDust, try chromium-browser
[14:44] <NoelJB> BadLarry, I'm running on a T61p.
[14:45] <BadLarry> NoelJB: do you have intel graphics or nvidia or ati?
[14:45] <joelio> BadLarry: Polah: Issues with network stack initially, DBUS errors all over the place. Forget about getting any sane gnome / compiz setup. If you're happy running unity or gnome3 shell go for it
[14:45] <Chotaz`Work> Is is viable to upgrade my machine over SSH?
[14:45] <andyn> heck, i've installed suse with dd over netcat
[14:45] <MonkeyDust> BluesKaj: tried, no succes
[14:45] <Darael> Chotaz`Work: That is, in fact, the main way people upgrade servers.  Go for it.  The command in question is "sudo do-release-upgrade".
[14:46] <MonkeyDust> ok, maybe i'm talking nonsense, moment
[14:46] <BadLarry> joelio: I really appreciate the heads up. I am going to put it off for the time being it looks like.
[14:46] <leuty> Hi, I encountered a bug during the upgrade process of Kubuntu 11.04 -> 11.10. Could somebody with more skills than me look into the logs and tell me if it is just my stupidity or something else? http://paste.ubuntu.com/707363/ http://paste.ubuntu.com/707361/ Thank you.
[14:46] <Darael> Chotaz`Work: I appreciate this may not be a server, but it should work for a desktop machine too.
[14:46] <joelio> BadLarry: Polah: I mistakenly thought gnome-classic would give me the required environment, but that is seriously a flawed perception. I'm not saying it won't be right for you, just for me it's a pain
[14:46] <Polah> joelio: What does it give you?
[14:46] <BadLarry> Any word on the compatibility with Sandy Bridge on 11.10? I know 11.04 was supposed to be, but it never really felt right
[14:47] <NoelJB> BadLarry, nvidia of course.
[14:47] <MeanEYE> Anyone happen to have md5 hash for amd64 desktop iso?
[14:47] <Pessimist> what cpus are considered amd64?
[14:48] <MeanEYE> Pessimist: Both AMD and Intel
[14:48] <joelio> Polah: An awful mess of a desktop.. gnome panel was workign, after a reboot it's broken. Compiz doesn't autoload.. I can't find the place for startup applications, all of the settings seem to have disappeared. You can't change font sizes unless you install a tweak tool with a load of deps etc..etc..etc.....
[14:48] <edbian> Pessimist: any 64 bit processor is technically 'amd64'  amd standardized it so they get the name
[14:48] <SIFTU> Pessimist: intel and amd 64 bit cpus
[14:48] <Polah> !md5sum | MeanEYE
[14:48] <Chotaz`Work> Darael: In fact it's not a server it's my home comp :)
[14:48] <Polah> MeanEYE: There's a list on one of those pages
[14:48] <MeanEYE> Okay I'll check
[14:48] <Darael> Chotaz`Work: Should work anyway :)
[14:48] <Polah> Chotaz`Work, still works the same way
[14:48] <edbian> joelio: This is ubuntu support.  Please keep it on topic
[14:48] <Pessimist> how to check if your cpu is compatible with amd64 variant?
[14:48] <Polah> Pessimist: Anything that supports 64-bit processing, which is the majority of modern processors
[14:49] <intok> So whats the state of the i845 GPU driver in 11.10??
[14:49] <Polah> Pessimist: Look up your processor online, or cat /proc/cpuinfo may show you
[14:49] <NoelJB> edbian, how is ranting about the usability of the new mandated UI not on-topic?
[14:49] <joelio> edbian: I think you find it was?
[14:49] <Polah> NoelJB: Because it's not a support topic and you're free to use whatever environment you want to.
[14:49] <Darael> Pessimist: grep lm /proc/cpuinfo
[14:49] <sonicated> Woohoo! I fixed the booting issue. My fstab was reading "UUID=<foo> / ext3 defaults,noatime 1 1" but I changed it to "UUID=<foo> / ext3 defaults,errors=remount-ro,noatime 0 1" and it booted. It's strange why the upgrade would cause that..
[14:50] <edbian> Pessimist: Are you on windows?
[14:50] <Darael> Pessimist: If it returns anything, it's 64-bit compatible.
[14:50] <Pessimist> Would linux be faster if I use amd64 release instead of i368 ? My cpu is compatible according to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/32bit_and_64bit
[14:50] <nemo> Hm. If I upgrade to 11.10 I lose gnome 2 right?
[14:50] <Darael> edbian: If on Windows, CPU-Z is the tool I've heard best of.
[14:50] <NoelJB> Polah, no, not really.  Unless people want to leave ubuntu, the choices are KDE, Gnome Shell or Unity, but not the one that everyone wants to use: Gnome Classic.
[14:50] <edbian> Darael: I was just going to look at properties of computer
[14:50] <Darael> edbian: Apologies, should have directed that at Pessimist.
[14:50] <NoelJB> Polah, So if people are being forced to upgrade, one should expect LOTS of feedback on the nature of the "upgrade"
[14:50] <Darael> Pessimist: Depends what th'art doing.
[14:50] <Vide> Hey, I have been using Ubuntu 11.10 a while now (Wubi). Today I had multiple programs open and Ubuntu freezed. I rebooted by switching the power off and when I rebooted to Ubuntu, the grub menu didn't came up. Instead grup prompt came up. How to get the menu working again?
[14:50] <edbian> Pessimist: It is technically faster but the real reason anybody uses 64 bit is to use more than 3.2Gb of ram
[14:51] <Polah> NoelJB: Or gnome-panel on GNOME3. Or Xfce, or LXDE, or Enlightenment or anything else.
[14:51] <Pessimist> edbian, if I don't have that much ram it doesn't matter?
[14:51] <edbian> Pessimist: Not really now
[14:51] <edbian> no*
[14:51] <Darael> Pessimist: It's going to have most effect on things like video editing, photo editing, stuff like that.  For everyday computing, it won't make much difference.
[14:51] <MeanEYE> Polah: Are you sure releases 11.10 is up to date? I have a different md5sum than specified there... but I got ISO from web site through torrent.
[14:51] <NoelJB> Polah, Ubuntu does not do that for normal users.
[14:51] <joelio> Polah: What ships as the default though.. If you've been used to gnome2 and gnome2 goes.. well, what do you expect users to start talking about/
[14:51] <Polah> MeanEYE: Yes, 11.10 is the latest release, release today.
[14:52] <NoelJB> joelio, you'll just have to open bug reports for usablity issues and hope that people chime in.
[14:52] <Polah> joelio: At which point we then tell them to switch to something else and stop complaining, as I am doing now.
[14:52] <MeanEYE> Polah: I know that it was released, but md5sum is not the same... Gah.
[14:52] <studentz> After upgrade nvidia driver to version 285  using synaptic, I couldn't get to gdm. I booted  in a secure mode and got a terminal. I purged nvidia current and installed again. But the installation got stuck in update-initramfs.  Please Help me
[14:52] <NoelJB> Polah, never.  That is an assinine way of dealing with customer complaints.
[14:52] <edbian> joelio: What do you think the default should be?
[14:52] <Polah> NoelJB: There's Xubuntu, Kubuntu and Lubuntu with Xfce, KDE and LXDE by default available, as well as a number of unofficial variants for other default environments. Don't complain here and use another environment.
[14:52] <compdoc> Kate Stewart sent me a personal email to let me know they released 11.10. I love that girl
[14:52] <subone> When I turn on my laptop with my external monitor plugged in the monitor turns off. I can usually get it back on if I log off and back on once or twice. How can I troubleshoot this issue?
[14:52] <NoelJB> Polah, you suck it up, take the lumps on the chin, and make changes in response to feedback.
[14:53] <Polah> NoelJB: No, that's the way of telling you that it's offtopic for this channel.
[14:53] <edbian> Polah: I knew it
[14:53] <Polah> NoelJB: Complain to Canonical then, nobody here is in charge of which environment comes by default.
[14:53] <Polah> MeanEYE: That means your ISO is incomplete or corrupt.
[14:53] <Polah> edbian: Hmm?
[14:53] <Pessimist> which is the last version of ubuntu that didn't have unity by default?
[14:54] <Vide> Also I thought that root.disk may be missing but it's not
[14:54] <edbian> Polah: I said it was off topic earlier and they both disagreed
[14:54] <DangerOnTheRangr> Pessimist: 10.10 I believe
[14:54] <edbian> Pessimist: 9.10
[14:54] <MeanEYE> Polah: which means everyone else who downloaded using torrents has the wrong ISO since torrent has checksums as well. :/
[14:54] <edbian> Pessimist: DangerOnTheRangr 10.10 he's right
[14:54] <jonte> Distribution upgrade from 11.04 -> 11.10 fails, how can I debug it?
[14:54] <grifo74> hello i´m star my download ubuntu 11.10 now, anybodytry this version, it´s good?????????
[14:54] <angel_> msg nickserv identify 25122
[14:54] <Pici> angel_: Please change your password.
[14:54] <Pessimist> lol
[14:54] <Polah> edbian: Of course it's offtopic. It's not a support topic unless they're asking for help with something or discussing a solution to something or the like
[14:54] <compdoc> Pessimist, with 11.04, you can select the gnome desktop. I dont think 11.10 allows
[14:55] <NoelJB> Pessimist, Lucid.  Natty was easy to switch, though.
[14:55] <DangerOnTheRangr> grifo74: Barely anyone *has* tried it - it just came out a few hours ago :)
[14:55] <joelio> edbian: I think that is perfectly clear :) I'll leave it at that
[14:55] <Polah> MeanEYE: Unofficial torrent? Could've had the original seed with a bad ISO, or the one on the wiki page could be wrong; ask someone else to pass you theirs quickly if you like.
[14:55] <nemo> hm. Ask Me Later button doesn't seem to respond
[14:55]  * nemo tries Decline
[14:55] <nemo> ah. that works
[14:55] <Darael> compdoc: 11.10 allows choosing the gnome desktop, AIUI, but not gnome2, since it's no longer supported.
[14:56] <MeanEYE> Polah: I downloaded torrent file from alternative downloads page. Weird. I'll check again.
[14:56] <nemo> BTW, as much as my mom, and my father in law, and my mom's boyfriend, and a handful of others I chat w/ disliked very much giving up our familiar desktop metaphor, one person was a fan
[14:56] <nemo> my SO said she likes Unity, that it reminds her of her Android tablet
[14:56] <Pessimist> Is it possible for example to install firefox 7 on Ubuntu 10.04?
[14:56] <grifo74> i hope it´s good like the other versions. i hope now the uniti 2d wor fine on pc my computor is strong but i dont like efects
[14:56] <Pessimist> from official repos
[14:57] <Polah> MeanEYE: Hmm, try a direct download instead perhaps.
[14:57] <edbian> Pessimist: yes, and it's installed by default?
[14:57] <nemo> given she's normally not a fan of much change, and I had to make gnome2 look like windows xp, I was rather surprised by that
[14:57] <studentz> After upgrade nvidia driver to version 285  using synaptic, I couldn't get to gdm. I booted  in a secure mode and got a terminal. I purged nvidia current and installed again. But the installation got stuck in update-initramfs.  Please Help me
[14:57] <MeanEYE> Polah: Yeah, I'll do that. Thanks.
[14:57] <Polah> edbian: Firefox 3 is default on 10.04 I thought
[14:57] <NiKORaSU> What in a program would break linux interoperability?  When would I expect the executable for, like, slackware, to be different than the one for ubuntu?
[14:57] <nemo> Polah: yeah, but there's the mozilla stable ppa
[14:57] <edbian> Polah: I read wrong
[14:57] <edbian> Pessimist: It's not in the official repos but there is a PPA
[14:57] <Shatters> hey, I know everyone talks about the dangers of login as root, but is the 'Run as Root' option of Bleachbit safe?
[14:57] <Polah> nemo: Mhm, but he said official repos (:
[14:57] <edbian> Pessimist: I thought you said 11.10 :P
[14:57] <nemo> NiKORaSU: missing library versions? 32 vs 64 bit...
[14:57] <Shatters> in you guys' experience
[14:58] <compdoc> upgrading a test system from 11.04 to 11.10 - only 23 hours left to go
[14:58] <NiKORaSU> nemo: Are certain libraries dependent on the distribution?
[14:58] <Polah> Shatters: It allows Bleachbit to clear out your apt package cache and other files it would need root access to remove.
[14:58] <nemo> NiKORaSU: versions of them, sure
[14:58] <NiKORaSU> ooh
[14:58] <edbian> Shatters: I wouldn't trust it to run as root
[14:58] <Pessimist> Thanks for the help, will install 10.04.  ;)
[14:58] <NiKORaSU> nemo: Thank you!
[14:58] <nemo> NiKORaSU: no different than building an app to work on ubuntu 10.04 vs 11.10
[14:58] <nemo> hm
[14:58] <nemo> oh well. so. just to confirm. ubuntu 11.10 - no gnome 2?
[14:59] <Darael> nemo: Correct.
[14:59] <nemo> m'k. thanks.
[14:59] <edbian> nemo: that's right
[14:59] <Vide> Hey, I have been using Ubuntu 11.10 a while now (Wubi). Today I had multiple programs open and Ubuntu freezed. I rebooted by switching the power off and when I rebooted to Ubuntu, the grub menu didn't came up. Instead grup> prompt came up. How to get the menu working again?
[14:59] <Darael> nemo: Upstream dropped it, and Ubuntu frankly doesn't have the resources to maintain a fork.
[14:59] <nemo> given my mom's extreme reaction to unity, I guess I'd better get xfce4 on her machine now, and warn her about upgrading
[14:59] <nemo> Darael: I'd heard. gnome shell confused her too
[14:59] <Shatters> yeah, I would like it to clear the package cache, but I'm nervous about it running as root anywhere else.. don't want to corrupt my system
[14:59] <NoelJB> nemo, try KDE
[14:59] <nemo> Darael: I just wasn't sure if it was being dropped in 11.10, and all of a sudden I got a notice
[14:59] <sebsebseb> !classic | nemo
[14:59] <nemo> NoelJB: eh. kinda heavy, and all her apps are gtk
[14:59] <Rinsmaster> How could I get a list of all recently installed packages (ordered by date, descending)?
[14:59] <Polah> Shatters: Run sudo apt-get clean then
[14:59] <Darael> nemo: Ah.  Yeah, 'fraid so.
[15:00] <edbian> Shatters: sudo aptitude autoclean
[15:00] <sebsebseb> nemo: wrong factoid hmm
[15:00] <nemo> sebsebseb: um. that doesn't work in 11.10 right?
[15:00] <nemo> lol
[15:00] <Darael> sebsebseb: Looks like the bot's a touch out of date.
[15:00] <Polah> Shatters: That'll clear your package cache without the rest of the stuff that bleachbit does
[15:00]  * Plugh wonders if someone will make a gubuntu (with gnome) kind of like kubuntu (with KDE)
[15:00] <sebsebseb> !nounity | nemo
[15:00] <NoelJB> nemo, you can do apps either way.  I run kdenlive, for example, since it is the best linux video editor.
[15:00] <edbian> nemo: that's right
[15:00] <Shatters> ah great, thanks.
[15:00] <nemo> NoelJB: yeah, but "feel" suffers
[15:00] <NoelJB> nemo, the choice of KDE vs Unity doesn't actually impact choice of apps.
[15:00] <Polah> NoelJB: Careful with what you describe as "best", please.
[15:00] <sebsebseb> nemo: there's a Gnome 3 fall back mode in the repo,  like Gnome 2, but not quite enough for a lot of us really
[15:00] <NoelJB> Polah, you know of a better one?
[15:01] <nemo> NoelJB: not to mention they can't even agree on stuff like message handling
[15:01] <sebsebseb> nemo: woth a try though
[15:01] <nemo> sebsebseb: yeah, I don't think she'd like gnome 3 either
[15:01] <Polah> NoelJB: Not particularly, never used any video editing software on Ubuntu, but "best software for x" is a matter of opinion.
[15:01] <nemo> sebsebseb: she basically wants computers that look like what she's used to.
[15:01] <sebsebseb> nemo: this one is quite like Gnome 2 though, but not quite in some ways
[15:01] <nemo> sebsebseb: I've managed at home to make xfce4 look a lot like gnome2
[15:01] <nemo> I'm hopeful that'll do the trick for her
[15:01] <subone> When I turn on my laptop with my external monitor plugged in the monitor turns off. I can usually get it back on if I log off and back on once or twice. How can I troubleshoot this issue?
[15:01] <Plugh> sebsebseb: What I heard of Gnome 3 back not long after 11.04 came out was that it was a bit like Unity in look/feel.
[15:02] <NoelJB> Polah, almost every qualitative statement is an opinion.
[15:02] <edbian> Plugh: It would agree with that.
[15:02] <sebsebseb> Plugh: Gnome Shell is quite good really :)
[15:02] <Polah> nemo: There's gnome-panel instead of gnome-shell which I believe gives a more similar look to gnome2
[15:02] <Polah> Plugh: Well, Unity is a shell for GNOME
[15:02] <nemo> Polah: oh. hm.
[15:02] <nemo> worth a look
[15:02] <Polah> !info gnome-panel | nemo
[15:03] <nemo> Polah: I think basically if she could retain a few of her applets, and the applications menu, she'd be fine
[15:03] <rahul> how to upgrade from 11.04 to 11.10
[15:04] <rahul> Please help
[15:04] <Pessimist> Run Update manager, then you will see a button to upgrade
[15:04] <kel39> ubuntu -> update manager
[15:04] <BluesKaj> rahul, sudo do-release-upgrade
[15:04] <Polah> nemo: Apparently it's a fallback when Mutter doesn't load, so it may already be installed. It can apparnetly be used by default, but I don't know how to do that just now.
[15:05] <mneptok> nemo: i'm a long time GNOME user, and have switched to XFCE. it's relatively painless.
[15:05] <Dreaman> rahul  http://www.ubuntu.com/download/ubuntu/upgrade
[15:05] <Plugh> I find it interesting to see 11.04 now marked as LTS since I'm sure it wasn't marked that way when it first came out.
[15:05] <Atamisk> mneptok: +!. xfce isn't a drop-in for gnome 2, but it's bloody well close
[15:05] <compdoc> Plugh, its not LTS
[15:05] <Pessimist> It isn't LTS
[15:05] <edbian> Plugh: Where do you see that?  It's not LTS.  Did it become LTS?
[15:05] <Dreaman> 12.04 is lts
[15:05] <rahul> Pessimist: BluesKaj Dreaman Thanks mate. :-)
[15:05] <kel39> how can i find out the version installed on my server
[15:06] <Plugh> Oh, sorry, right. Its 10.04 that is LTS.
[15:06] <Atamisk> is the prealpa out for 12.04? :P
[15:06] <mneptok> kel39: lsb_release -a
[15:06] <kel39> thanks mneptok
[15:06] <edbian> Plugh: that's right
[15:06] <rahul> And is there any different between upgrading from 11.04 to 11.10 & making a fresh installation of 11.10
[15:06] <Polah> kel39: lsb_release -r
[15:07] <Polah> rahul: Some, hopefully most, of your current settings will carry over on an upgrade.
[15:07] <Plugh> rahul: It allows you to start clean without some of the things you may have installed since you installed 11.04 and have since found you don't need.
[15:07] <kel39> Polah: -a was even nicer, it gave me a codename :P
[15:07] <Pessimist> http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/ca/Ucp-photo.jpg need to get this :P
[15:07] <Darael> rahul: As thou canst see, there are arguments for each, but in the end either should be fine.
[15:07] <Polah> kel39: Woe be to he who knows not his own server release codename (;
[15:08] <nemo> mneptok: I think it'll probably be ok w/ a bit of configuration.  I noticed it hadn't enabled subpixel hinting by default, and I just rearranged the panels so it looked more like what she was used to
[15:08] <nemo> mneptok: but, yeah, it has pretty much everything
[15:08] <kel39> Polah: it was installed a good 4 years ago
[15:08] <nemo> mneptok: also seems a lot snappier
[15:08] <kel39> i barely maintain it
[15:08] <Companion> mneptok, command not found :P
[15:08] <kel39> might update it to 10.04, that's all
[15:08] <Polah> kel39: Certainly time to upgrade in that case
[15:09] <Plugh> Polah, I remember version numbers, not code names.
[15:09] <mneptok> Companion: lsb_release was not found? try installing Ubuntu. ;)
[15:09] <edbian> Plugh: me too
[15:09] <Companion> mneptok,  companion@cube ~]$ lsb_release -a
[15:09] <Companion> bash: lsb_release: command not found
[15:09] <edbian> Companion: cat /etc/issue
[15:09] <Companion> whats wrong with ubuntu :O
[15:09] <mneptok> Companion: that's not Debian or Ubuntu, then
[15:09] <mix22891> hello, there are error with the Kazam program, i can't upload videos to youtube
[15:09] <ScatterBrain> Having trouble connecting to a network printer (Windows 2003 Domain based - shared on the server).  I can find the printer, I can make the connection, but when I tell anything to print, ubuntu just sits there at the "processing" state.  running 11.04 desktop.
[15:09] <Pessimist> It is in my 11.10. Maybe you had errors while downloading the iso?
[15:09] <Anonxpct> Y dnt u just do uname -a?
[15:09] <Shatters> wow that ap-get clean just freed up 300+ mb
[15:10] <Shatters> good deal
[15:10] <Companion> mneptok, nope
[15:10] <Companion> its Archlinux :)
[15:10] <Companion> companion@cube ~]$ cat /etc/issue
[15:10] <Companion> Arch Linux \r  (\n) (\l)
[15:10] <cremaster> i'm on natty and my wifi (b43) seems not to be picking up the weak-medium networks - only the super strong
[15:10] <edbian> Companion: haha, arch is great :)
[15:10] <Plugh> ScatterBrain: Do you have the printer driver installed?
[15:10] <Vide> Hey, I have been using Ubuntu 11.10 a while now (Wubi). Today I had multiple programs open and Ubuntu freezed. I rebooted by switching the power off and when I rebooted to Ubuntu, the grub menu didn't came up. Instead grup> prompt came up. How to get the menu working again?
[15:10] <rahul> Polah: , Plugh , Darael : I mean apart from the fact that I can retain the applications that I already have in a upgrade, is there any disadvantage in upgrading like I can't get some features or like that?
[15:10] <Companion> edbian, I <3 it as desktop
[15:10]  * Companion uses Ubuntu as server tho
[15:10] <ScatterBrain> Plugh: Yes.
[15:10] <cremaster> i have another machine running lucid with the same card that's picking up all the networks
[15:10] <Polah> rahul: There shouldn't be
[15:10] <edbian> Companion: I love it so much that I know when I'm using it.
[15:10] <SIFTU> Companion: lsb_release works in Arch.. install it
[15:11] <Anonxpct> Cremaster....install kismet nd chek...if u still dnt gt it...its a driver/hrdwr issue
[15:11] <Companion> SIFTU, its useless package tho :O
[15:11] <rahul> Polah: So no drawback. right?
[15:11] <Shatters> so when I'm using persistent usb, I can change admin password, but it doesn't save the change, despite being persistent. anyhow know how to remedy that?
[15:11] <|usr|bin|nice> where do i find the hashes for 11.10?
[15:11] <Companion> Targets (2): filesystem-2011.10-1  mkinitcpio-0.7.4-1
[15:11] <Companion> hrm
[15:11] <Companion> :O
[15:11] <switch10> Companion: so many former Ubuntu users switching to Arch.  I love it.
[15:12] <Plugh> rahul: No real advantage. As mentioned, upgrading allows you to retain a lot of the configuration info and list of packages already on the machine which may not get installed automatically during a fresh install.
[15:12] <edbian> switch10: Everyone is a former ubuntu user.
[15:12] <SIFTU> Companion: well depends.. I have uses for it
[15:12] <Companion> switch10, ubuntu is a great distro keep reminding that, but Archlinux is way more perfect as desktop
[15:12] <Companion> SIFTU, I only use it when people are asking for doing it...
[15:12] <pangolin> !ot
[15:12] <SIFTU> Companion: ah, I have script which use it
[15:13] <Companion> SIFTU, virtualmin uses it too, yet it can be installed without that package the problem is ubuntu has too many un used packaged with eats time on installing a 'perfect' server running on ubuntu
[15:14] <xukun> Companion, can u explain that a bit more? why do u think archlinux is perfect?
[15:14] <Companion> xukun, I am not telling archlinux is perfect compared to ubuntu
[15:14] <Plugh> |usr|bin|nice: http://mirror.csclub.uwaterloo.ca/ubuntu-releases/oneiric/
[15:14] <ucenik19> aasdadadadasdas
[15:14] <ucenik19> sad
[15:14] <ucenik19> asd
[15:14] <ucenik19> asd
[15:14] <FloodBot1> ucenik19: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:14] <pangolin> xukun Companion Please continue the non-support discussion in #ubuntu-offtopic
[15:14] <Companion> pangolin, its ubuntu related
[15:14] <rahul> Any idea about the power management in 11.10? I have serious issue with discrete gps.
[15:14] <cwest> Is there a known problem with ntfs on a persistent flash drive? I can't mount anything ntfs
[15:14] <Shatters> anyone know why ubunto from persistent usb won't save admin pass change?
[15:15] <Shatters> running ub 10 lucid
[15:15] <Suhel> Finally can we discuss Ocelot here???  Lol
[15:15] <Companion> xukun, I preffer Archlinux as Desktop and Ubuntu as server :)
[15:15] <pangolin> Companion: reasons why Arch is better or worse is not Ubuntu related.
[15:15] <mneptok> Companion: it's not support related. move the convo.
[15:15] <Ann-Maria> I have a empathy translation in .po format. But don't know how to install it. Plz help me
[15:15] <ucenik35> as
[15:15] <martian> Is there a list of changes in 11.10 that one would see if you're not using whatever that terrible new gnome interface is?
[15:15] <Kottizen> hi, when I booted by live CD on my MacBook Pro I get this: "Unable to find a medium containing a live file system"
[15:15] <ucenik35> assasa
[15:15] <Companion> pangolin, its a comparisation between distro's that I am explaining to some one
[15:15] <Kottizen> what do I do?
[15:15] <Companion> yet ill pm him then...
[15:15] <Pici> !notes | martian
[15:15] <mix22891> hello, there are error with the Kazam program, i can't upload videos to youtube
[15:15] <pangolin> Companion: Do it in the offtopic channel.
[15:15] <mix22891> please HELP
[15:15] <Kottizen> Pici: it was the same in 11.04
[15:16] <Companion> xukun, see pm
[15:16] <pangolin> or in PM
[15:16] <pangolin> thank you.
[15:16] <xukun> Companion, it's nice to have choices. That is one of the best things about open source
[15:16] <Ann-Maria> I have a empathy translation in .po format. But don't know how to install it. Plz help me
[15:16] <ucenik35> kaj  si we?
[15:16] <Companion> xukun, check pm :)
[15:16] <martian> Pici: oh hmm, I was reading the text version of the notes and they were rather sparese.  But don't know how to install it. Plz help me
[15:17] <Ann-Maria> hey somebody help me
[15:17] <Companion> organiks, As I mentioned before I preffer ubuntu as Server (Server version) then Desktop
[15:17] <cwest> my error is this:
[15:17] <cwest> Mount is denied because the NTFS volume is already exclusively opened.
[15:17] <|usr|bin|nice> Plugh, thanks, it would seems that my download is corrupted
[15:17] <VectorX> hi, can someone tell me where i can learn more about MultiSeat, like if there are some books etc, talking about setup, use cases etc ?
[15:18] <Plugh> Ann-Maria: You need to have a bit of patience after asking a question.
[15:18] <Ann-Maria> no one to help this sexy
[15:18] <Plugh> |usr|bin|nice: yw
[15:18] <Ann-Maria> Plugh, waited for a long
[15:18] <bucaneiro> if I am using 11.04 why I need to update to 11.10?
[15:18] <Pessimist> You don't
[15:18] <edbian> bucaneiro: u dont'
[15:18] <Plugh> Ann-Maria: I saw your question and the follow up help me request 14 seconds later.
[15:19] <Ann-Maria> Plugh,hmm
[15:19] <jbwiv> anyone know when Unity2d is expected to support >2 monitors?
[15:19] <bucaneiro> if something is working as expected no need to updates
[15:19] <pkug> Hi there, I deleted some default packages from my Ubuntu system and i want to revert it so that it doesn't lack any default packages.. any trick how to reinstall missing base (default) packages ?
[15:19] <Jahcros> Ann-Maria: it's also quite possible that no one in the chat is entirely sure what your problem is or how to help you. You may need to rephrase your question and add additional details.
[15:20] <edgy> hi, which image of these is the desktop amd64: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/releases/oneiric/release/, I can only see macs and dvd but no intel
[15:20] <jrib> pkug: if you have ubuntu-desktop installed, you should be set
[15:20] <neoteo> hello
[15:20] <Ann-Maria> Jahcros,I have a empathy translation in .po format. But don't know how to install it. Plz help me
[15:20] <MAREK_BENC_NetB> pkug: apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[15:20] <jrib> edgy: read the first sentence on that page?
[15:20] <Plugh> Ann-Maria: dpkg -L empathy to see what files are in the package. You should see where it stored the other .po files which came with it. Install your other .po where the others are located. Better still, contact the project and offer them your translation so it can become part of the official distribution.
[15:21] <edbian> ls
[15:21] <edgy> jrib: aha! thanks
[15:21] <jrib> edgy: no problem :)
[15:21] <Polah> jrib: And ubuntu-minimal to upgrade
[15:22] <cannonball> pkug: Look in /var/log/apt/history to see what you removed, then just re-install those packages with sudo apt-get.  I don't know of a way to do this though from the gui.
[15:22] <jrib> Polah: I assumed ubuntu-desktop depended on it but it's possible that's not the case
[15:22] <cwesterfield> would an upgrade to persistent usb work? maybe it would fix my problem
[15:22] <engammalsko> The gnome-shell is fucked up in 11.10. I tried both GNOME and GNOME classic.
[15:22] <engammalsko> Do I need to make a clean install of 11.10?
[15:22] <Psi-Jack> engammalsko: Mind your language kindly, please.
[15:22] <dweez> did you install fallback and gnome-shell?
[15:23] <Polah> jrib: Nope, I removed it and had to reinstall to move to 11.10
[15:23] <Dreaman> engammalsko no gnome classic like gnome 2
[15:23] <jrib> Polah: thanks, good to know
[15:23] <Dreaman> gnome -shell and unity
[15:23] <ScatterBrain> Is there a way to configure Ubuntu so that when a I try to access a Windows (domain based) resource that it always provides the proper information?
[15:23] <MAREK_BENC_NetB> engammalsko: This is a support chanel, if you want to curse, atleast censure it.
[15:23] <Shatters> rembrandt
[15:23] <Plugh> engammalsko: Care to elaborate on the issues you have encountered>
[15:24] <pkug> MAREK_BENC_NetB, jrib: thanks, but i still miss like email notification icon (unity) package and few others
[15:24] <klafka> when you load up the 11.10 livecd should it take a really long time on loading the 4th button on the splash screen
[15:25] <nixmaniack> if I upgrade from Live CD, will my packages remain as it is or will they be wiped out?
[15:25] <sebsebseb> klafka: on the boot up theme?
[15:25] <klafka> yeah
[15:25] <sebsebseb> klafka: ok Plymotuh and no it shoudn't realy
[15:25] <sebsebseb> klafka: ,but Plymouth doesn't alwasy work right in Ubuntu
[15:25] <guy> Totally off-topic, please forgive me! Though, would anyone who is a Londoner would want to travel to Birmingham tomorrow for free? (need to deliver a package, though)
[15:25] <jrib> pkug: if you create a fresh new user, does everything look ok?
[15:26] <jrib> guy: do not do that please
[15:26] <sebsebseb> klafka: may be a bad CD causing it, or to do with your graphics card, does it load up at all?
[15:26] <klafka> not sure what you mean by plymouth, i mean on like the initial load screen where it is purple and says ubuntu 11.10
[15:26] <guy> jrib: I know.. I kinda feel bad for doing it. : )
[15:26] <klafka> and it changes the first 3 dots underneath ubuntu t red
[15:26] <guy> It's an emergency though.
[15:26] <klafka> then freezes at the 4th
[15:26] <sebsebseb> klafka: yep that, that's Plymouth
[15:26] <sebsebseb> klafka: the name of the program
[15:26] <klafka> ah ok
[15:26] <jrib> guy: well now you know that if you do it, you will be banned.  So please don't do it anymore
[15:26] <pkug> jrib, i just deleted that package, it's not there.. i think it doesn't belong to ubuntu-desktop set but i'll take a look at apt logs now
[15:26] <klafka> i have a macbook pro 5,3 so i'm wondering if it's a graphics driver issue?
[15:27] <sebsebseb> klafka: however in Ubuntu in my expereince, well not done 11.10, but well yeah been quite a few issues with it at times really
[15:27] <guy> well, hopefully someone will see it. : )
[15:27] <Shatters> nah
[15:27] <ichbinder> hello. How can I tar a folder containing also some hard linkes (created with "cp -l") in a way such that these hard linked files are also useable after untaring the archive again on a different machine?
[15:27] <sebsebseb> klafka: some distros let you just get a text boot instead, but nope not  recent verisons of Ubuntu
[15:27] <klafka> i've had such issues installing linux on this i'm almost starting to think I have hardware problems
[15:27] <sburjan> hello. I am trying to upgrade to 11.10 and I get a "Package dependencies cannot be resolved"
[15:28] <jrib> ichbinder: what happens when you tar normally?
[15:28] <Dreaman> sburjan use clean install
[15:28] <dweez> guy, go to #ubuntu-offtopic
[15:28] <sebsebseb> klafka: if you install it, you can pretty much disable plymouth if it cuases a problem, but if the Live CD isn't even booting up hmm,  worth a md5sum check to make sure you got a good download
[15:28] <sburjan> Dreaman: so no dist upgrade, clean install from CD ?
[15:28] <sebsebseb> !md5sum | klafka
[15:28] <leuty> sburjan: Are the sources already updated to the oneric sources?
[15:28] <spikebike> dweez: hey
[15:28] <Dreaman> sburjan yes :)
[15:29] <sburjan> leuty: Package dependencies cannot be resolved IA32-lib
[15:29] <gulzar> I want to find block device for my external hdd - "Elements". How? I issued this command - cat /proc/scsi/scsi but not getting it
[15:29] <cwesterfield> is there a better room to chat about persistent usb installs?
[15:29] <zmbmartin> I had installed to fglrx driver but dumped it and went back to radeon but now my boot splash doesn't work. Can't remember if anything that I changed?
[15:29] <Flynsarmy> what's the iso name for 64-bit 11.10? i don't see a i686 on my local mirror. do i use the amd64 one for an intel machine?
[15:29] <StepNjump> Hi, I'm trying to mount an ext4 partition in read-only mode by typing sudo mount -o remount,ro /dev/sda8  ---- mount: can't find /dev/sda8 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab   --- What does it mean?
[15:29] <spikebike> Flynsarmy: yes, use an amd64 for a 64 bit intel machine
[15:29] <Dreaman> zmbmartin gnome 3.2 not use fglrx :)
[15:29] <engammalsko> MAREK_BENC_NetB: Psi-Jack: Sorry. Here's a screen shot. Can I somehow make it look like the Gnome on 11.04? http://superbfish.com/images/screen.png
[15:29] <sebsebseb> !hashes | klafka
[15:29] <Polah> ichbinder: No, probably not. Hard links point to the same location on the disk, if you move them then the data they point to will most likely not be in the same position. Symlinks may work though
[15:29] <dunpeal> Hey. What's the MD5 checksum of the Oneiric DVD?
[15:29] <klafka> thanks
[15:29] <ichbinder> jrib: tar tells me the following for these files: http://paste.ubuntu.com/707398/ I ignored it, did scp on the tar.bz2 and untared it on the destination. Then, I couldn't open that png.
[15:29] <leuty> sburjan: I had a smiliar issue. it helped to run sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade and manually remove all the packages that "have unmet dependencies"
[15:30] <sebsebseb> dunpeal: see what the bot just gave to klafka
[15:30] <Flynsarmy> spikebike: 64-bit 11.10 can run 32-bit apps too can't it?
[15:30] <jrib> gulzar: if it's mounted, just type « mount »
[15:30] <sebsebseb> !hashes | dunpeal
[15:30] <klafka> yes Flynsarmy
[15:30] <Polah> StepNjump, it can't find any device identified by /dev/sda8
[15:30] <switch10> StepNjump: you are tring to mount to /media ?
[15:30] <llutz> StepNjump: you can only "remount" stuff already being mounted
[15:30] <StepNjump> Polah, gparted told me that sda8 is the right partition and it's not mounted
[15:31] <Polah> Flynsarmy: i686 is for 32-bit systems, amd64 is for 64-bit systems. They will work on Intel and AMD, they are just names for the architectures.
 I am getting this ;; /exec cat /proc/scsi/scsi
[15:31] <llutz> StepNjump: sudo mount -o ro /dev/sda8 /mnt
[15:31] <intok> So whats the state of the i845 GPU driver in 11.10??
[15:31] <gulzar>  /exec cat /proc/scsi/scsi
[15:31] <ANDruid> what is wrong with my firefox? its process doesn't quit after i quit firefox
[15:31] <jrib> gulzar: use a pastebin
[15:31] <Polah> StepNjump, oh, if it's not mounted then take out remount and retry
[15:31] <dunpeal> sebsebseb: no 11.10 md5sums there yet, it seems :(
[15:31] <StepNjump> llutz, do you mean I should mount it first normally and then switch it to read only?
[15:31] <StepNjump> ok llut, let me try that
[15:32] <llutz> StepNjump:no need to do that, just use " sudo mount -o ro /dev/sda8 /mnt" if its not mounted
[15:32] <ichbinder> Polah: well, yeah. But is there no way to "unlink" them in a sense that the content is copied to the archive?
[15:32] <StepNjump> yep let me try it
[15:32] <engammalsko> Plugh: http://superbfish.com/images/screen.png can I somehow make gnome look like it did in 11.04?
  http://pastebin.com/TBqaFW40
[15:33] <ichbinder> Polah: and wouldn't symlinks fail for sure, since they only link to another filename. (if there is no specific option to unlink symlinks)
[15:33] <ANDruid> it never happened until i use it for some porn sites
[15:33] <Pici> sebsebseb: I'm working on getting that updated fyi
[15:33] <Plugh> engammalsko: I don't know. I dumped Unity right away and installed Gnome 2 on my 11.04 box.
[15:33] <jrib> ichbinder: I don't know what h means
[15:34] <sebsebseb> Pici: md5sums?
[15:34] <Polah> ichbinder: symlinks point to another filename yes, so if the files were the same name and in the same place they would work. Hard links are multiple pointers to a single actual set of data. Just copying the hard link may actually carry the data with it, or taking the original perhaps. I don't know exactly how data movement works with hard links
[15:34] <ichbinder> jrib: where do you mean?
[15:34] <Pici> sebsebseb: on that help.u.c page.
[15:34] <sebsebseb> uc?
[15:34] <dweez> I just added a ppa using the add-apt-repository to install gnome-shell-extensions.  I did the install but now when I look in /etc/apt/sources.list to comment the ppa out, I don't see it.  I thought the sources.list was where the repos are saved
[15:34] <jrib> ichbinder: http://paste.ubuntu.com/707398/ here.  I am not familiar with the meaning of 'h'
[15:34] <StepNjump> ok llutz, that mounted it as read only then right?
[15:34] <llutz> StepNjump: yes
[15:34] <StepNjump> it came up without error
[15:34] <ichbinder> Polah: but yeah, that's what I want! I want the data to be copied to the archive!
[15:34] <ichbinder> jrib: i guess that stands for hard link
[15:35] <sebsebseb> Pici: uc?
[15:35] <jrib> ichbinder: no
[15:35] <gulzar> jrib : ??? what it means I cannot understand it
[15:35] <Pici> sebsebseb: ubuntu.com
[15:35] <llutz> StepNjump: "mount" without any option to check
[15:35] <StepNjump> now I need to run extundelete because I lost a lot of data on that partition
[15:35] <sebsebseb> ah ok
[15:35] <jrib> gulzar: did you see my suggestion to you?
[15:35] <StepNjump> should I umount it first before starting the process?
[15:35] <gulzar> jrib :   http://pastebin.com/TBqaFW40
[15:35] <llutz> StepNjump: extundelete? does that work? isn't that this ancient stuff not really working since 15 yrs?
[15:36] <Raboo> hi
[15:36] <StepNjump> because extundelete is supposed to be running umounted BUT when I tried it first, I got a 13 error code
[15:36] <jrib> gulzar: yeah, I saw that.
[15:36] <jrib> ichbinder: well at least I do not see `h' when I create a hard link
[15:36] <StepNjump> yep I guess
[15:36] <Raboo> how do i create two bonding interfaces in Ubuntu 11.04
[15:36] <llutz> StepNjump: you could try "photorec" from testdisk-package too. sry cannot help with both, i havent used one of them myself
[15:37] <StepNjump> llutz but I need something that will get my files i deleted by mistake yesterday. Unfortunately, I'm on ext4 and all the other solutions (non commercial that is) are not compatible above ext3
[15:37] <Raboo> methods described in the web does not work
[15:37] <StepNjump> yep but photorec is not to be used with ext4...
[15:37] <StepNjump> I guess I could try it if it doesn't work
[15:37] <ugarit> how can I determine if I am running 32bit or 64bit ubuntu?
[15:37] <edbian> ugarit: uname -a
[15:37] <ichbinder> jrib: yeah, you are right... no idea... :-/
[15:37] <StepNjump> thank you for your help llutz
[15:38] <ugarit> edbian : thanks
[15:38] <edbian> ugarit: sure
[15:38] <jrib> ichbinder: actually what is interesting is the 0 there.  That means there are 0 hard links
[15:38] <paduae> Is there anyone that can help with WUBI installation error?
[15:39] <monstaRtruck> wubi lol
[15:39] <ichbinder> jrib: so, I did ls -la to that file, and there it also has no "h"
[15:39] <RyuGuns> I have a problem on 11.04, every time fullscreen a window, it stretches the window only and goes half way down.
[15:39] <sush24> hi... im kinda new to unix... i've managed to setup a ec2 instance with ubuntu... i have a lot of files on another server ... can connect through FTP.. i want to copy (or download) files to this installation.... can someone help me with a recursive command i should use?
[15:39] <thorn> !onirc
[15:39] <B0g4r7> What's the preferred software these days for running a mail server?  I want smtp, imap, and webmail, all with all the modern SSL protocol stuff.
[15:39] <jrib> ichbinder: oh, I assumed that's what it was.  My mistake.  Can you pastebin that?
[15:40] <monstaRtruck> dont upgrade to 11 unity sux
[15:40] <thorn> !happiness
[15:40] <ichbinder> jrib: the ls -la?
[15:40] <jrib> ichbinder: yeah
[15:40] <Raboo> sush24 use scp maybe
[15:40] <Chotaz`Work> monstaRtruck, you can always disable it, that's what I did/do.
[15:40] <RyuGuns> I think it's a problem with compiz, I've tried "compiz --replace"
[15:40] <|usr|bin|nice> monstaRtruck, that's your own opinion.
[15:40] <zmbmartin> Dreaman: Are you asking why I am not using fglrx?
[15:40] <Raboo> is there a ubuntu network channel?
[15:40] <B0g4r7> Yes, Unity is painful.  I turn it off.
[15:41] <ichbinder> jrib: http://paste.ubuntu.com/707400/
[15:41] <rahul> Any idea about the power management in 11.10? I have serious issue with discrete gps.
[15:41] <craigbass1976> is there a way to password protect an app?
[15:41] <jrib> ichbinder: read here:
[15:41] <jrib> ichbinder: read here: http://www.gnu.org/s/automake/manual/tar/hard-links.html
[15:41] <edbian> craigbass1976: change the permissions so only root can run it (but then it runs as root so... what is it?)
[15:41] <Sool> Hi everybody!! how can i draw the x-coordinate of my Mouse-pointer in a terminal?
[15:41] <sush24> Raboo: thanks... :)
[15:41] <craigbass1976> edbian, There's a "community" computer at work, and I'd like to run thunderbird on it, but don't need everyone dorking through my emails
[15:42] <Dreaman> zmbmartin use ubuntu 11.10 beta 2 fglrx not work
[15:42] <Dreaman> :)
[15:42] <bytesaber_work> is there a way to install ubuntu, onto an efi system, with efi boot support within it's own partition, and not overwriting or re blessing the existing EFI?
[15:42] <Kre10s> regarding unity... if you upgrade from 10. you don't even need to disable it, just select ubuntu classic when you login.
[15:42] <rahul> Any idea about the power management in 11.10? I have serious issue with discrete gps.
[15:42] <zmbmartin> Dreaman: I don't understand what you mean?
[15:42] <craigbass1976> edbian, actually, is it possible to fire up an app as a different user?  I used to do this on RH based linuxes, but haven't since I switched
[15:42] <paduae> Can anyone help with a "No root file system is defined"
[15:42] <edbian> craigbass1976: mmm, def don't want that running as root.  Make it so only your user can run it (not password necessary, it will work for you and not for them! :D)
[15:42] <B0g4r7> craigbass1976, use a seperate user account.
[15:42] <Chotaz`Work> Have anyone ever did upgrades without fresh installing? multiple times that is (10.04->10.10->11.04->11.10 without fresh installing for example)
[15:43] <edbian> craigbass1976: yes, are others logged in as you?
[15:43] <Dreaman> zmbmartin new gnome not suport fglrx :)
[15:44] <nixmaniack> if i upgrade from Live CD, will my apps will remain as is or will they get wiped out?
[15:44] <pdq> Chotaz`Work, i'm still on my original 9.10 install, have upgraded through to 11.10 with no issues :)
[15:44] <pis0ga> Chotaz: I did & upgrading 11.04->11.10 now :D
[15:44] <zmbmartin> Dreaman: oh I see
[15:44] <edbian> nixmaniack: if you reinstall from a liveCD the apps will be replaced.  I'm not sure if you can 'upgrade' from a live CD (which would not erase apps)
[15:44] <dweez> ah, I see now...add-apt-repository puts the ppa in the /etc/apt/sources.list.d/
[15:44] <Chotaz`Work> pdq, that was my concern, thanks. I'm currently upgrading my home comp through SSH and was wondering about wiping out data/apps.
[15:45] <heoa_> ...my ubuntu keeps get killed, printing some kernel failures...
[15:45] <engammalsko> Plugh: Yes me too. But I have 11.1 now. And 11.10 doesn't have GNOME so you'll need to install it manually. Which I did. And it looks like that :(
[15:45] <heoa_> anyway with the same problem with the about newest uubuntu?
[15:45] <adminewb> why allow only one tracker on torrents for the new release?
[15:45] <heoa_> err anyone?
[15:45] <ichbinder> jrib: thanks... interestingly, man tar on that other system does not show me that option... :( I'll give it a try
[15:45] <engammalsko> Plugh: 11.10*
[15:45] <mari00> does anyone know what the httpd binary was renamed to in ubuntu?
[15:45] <Abhijit> nixmaniack, you can upgrade from cd and it will not make your aps vanish. it will just upgrade them
[15:45] <mari00> i can't find the binary anywhere
[15:45] <nixmaniack> edbian, upgrade from Live CD is available from 11.04 or 10.10 (dont know exact ver), but never tried it
[15:45] <heoa_> ...hey this is quite serious prob...
[15:45] <somsip> mari00: apache2
[15:45] <edbian> mari00: apache2
[15:45] <jrib> ichbinder: hmm, it shows "--hard-dereference" here on 11.04
[15:46] <mari00> ahhhh ok thx
[15:46] <Vustom> When will Ubuntu 11.10 be released
[15:46] <heoa_> what is the Ubuntu developer irc channel?
[15:46] <Vustom> ?
[15:46] <jrib> Vustom: in the past :)
[15:46] <Plugh> engammalsko: Hm... thanks for the heads up. I'll have to do a test install in a spare partition to see what I'm going to get. I have 13 icons across the top panel for the programs I use frequently.
[15:46] <edbian> Vustom: today
[15:46] <REK_007> is 11.10 LTS ?
[15:46] <Vustom> o
[15:46] <arghx> REK_007: no
[15:46] <edbian> no
[15:46] <sburjan> leuty: I have broken packages, but I don't know which ones, because I don't get a list
[15:46] <REK_007> and deos it have gnome 3 as people here on IRC told me it would have
[15:46] <Dreaman> REK_007 12.04 is lts
[15:46] <rahul> Any idea about the power management in 11.10? I have serious issue with discrete gps.
[15:47] <adminewb> REK_007 no
[15:47] <Dreaman> and 14.04 is lts ans 10.04 lts
[15:47] <Dreaman> :)
[15:47] <Plugh> sburjan: The Synaptic gui program can list broken packages.
[15:47] <REK_007> then have to look for other distros
[15:47] <sburjan> Plugh: how can I recogize them >
[15:47] <REK_007> ubuntu is debian right? so other debian based distro with GNOME 3 there ?
[15:48] <Sool> How do i get the x-coordinate of my mousepointer?
[15:48] <Dreaman> REK_007 use mint debian edition gnome2
[15:48] <Dreaman> :)
[15:48] <Plugh> REK_007: IIRC, it is .04 releases that are usually .04 (but not 11.04)
[15:48] <Plugh> Usually LTS
[15:48] <ichbinder> jrib: yeah, my local machine is a 11:04, but the machine I try to copy from - so where the tar is - is a debian and does not have the GNU tar... :(
[15:48] <heoa_> ...sign LTS is now short-term...
[15:48] <REK_007> Dreaman: am on ubuntu 10.04 .. with that make a difference if i move to mint?
[15:49] <jrib> ichbinder: strange, what debian version?
[15:49] <Plugh> sburjan, click the button for "Broken packages"
[15:49] <leuty> sburjan: if you run sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade you dont get a list of what is broken?
[15:49] <Dreaman> REK_007 time of support
[15:49] <Dreaman> :)
[15:49] <heoa_> ...my comp gets apparently some sort of kernel panic after running some time, how to diagnose that?
[15:49] <sburjan> Plugh, leuty : managed from synaptic to remove the broken packages
[15:49] <Plugh> sburjan, left side of the screen of "Synaptic Package Manager" says "Broken" as second item down.
[15:50] <sebsebseb> REK_007: Mint it seems won't be doing Unity or Gnome Shell any time soon, but  this is a bit off topic now.  Also Mint 9 is based on Ubuntu 10.04 so  same support
[15:50] <Plugh> ok, good
[15:50] <thorn> !philosophy
[15:50] <reisi> are the openjdk-7 packages completly broken on 11.10 or is it just me? i've got openjdk-7-jdk installed but no javac?
[15:50] <heoa_> !spam
[15:50] <REK_007> Dreaman: ok i left mint to come to ubuntu :) now i see will have to change
[15:50] <REK_007> thanks sebsebseb for the insight thats what i though :)
[15:50] <adminewb> why allow only one tracker on torrents for the new release?
[15:50] <Vustom> When I install Ubuntu 11.10 and put it along-side Windows 7, I want it to auto boot into Windows 7 instead of Ubuntu by default, how do I do this?
[15:50] <Dreaman> REK_007ok
[15:51] <mix22891> k
[15:51] <REK_007> Vustom: edit the grub.cfg file
[15:51] <sebsebseb> REK_007: no problem your welcome :)
[15:51] <Dreaman> REK_007 i left ubuntu to use archlinux :)
[15:51] <REK_007> Dreaman: i also have set it up :P
[15:51] <wiredfool> is there a way to make unity sorta kinda work like the netbook launcher in 10.04?  I'd like one or two categories of apps on the 'home screen', and that's about it
[15:51] <thorn> !happiness
[15:51] <wiredfool> full screen only,
[15:51] <thorn> !ubuntu
[15:51] <craigbass1976> edbian, sorry, had a customer.  So, I've got a box and the user bob is logged in.  Can I somehow fire up a terminal and start thunderbird as craig?
[15:52] <REK_007> Dreaman: but facing few problems :) will look into those when i have some more time at hand to research and fix
[15:52] <edbian> Vustom: edit /etc/default/grub and save it and run sudo update-grub
[15:52] <Lithos84> Vustom: Install startupmanager
[15:52] <mix22891> hello, there are error with the Kazam program, i can't upload videos to youtube
[15:52] <jrib> thorn: try !msgthebot :)
[15:52] <edbian> craigbass1976: fire up the terminal, su craig
[15:52] <edbian> craigbass1976: then run thunderbird
[15:52] <rahul> overheating problem in 11.10?
[15:53] <craigbass1976> edbian, I thought I got display errors when I'd tried it in the past.   I'll give it a whirl shortly; still setting up the box
[15:53] <Vustom> If I use sudo apt-get install gnome-shell does that install GNOME 3?
[15:53] <gar_onn> Can't install 11.10: says: "Could not download the release notes" (internet connection is OK)
[15:53] <edbian> craigbass1976: there should be no errors with doing what I just described
[15:53] <mari00> hi all, i'm having a problem with apache2 on ubuntu.  i've got a virtual host setup, pointing to a directory in my home directory, ie /home/{user}/www/crisis.  i've also set up a host name in /etc/hosts crisis.mini.net <IP_ADDRESS>.  but when i enter crisis.mini.net it doesn't work.
[15:53] <sebsebseb> !gnomeshell | vilcobra
[15:53] <sebsebseb> Vustom: yeah that should do it I think
[15:53] <mari00> and when i run /usr/sbin/apache2 -S i get the message: "apache2: bad user name ${APACHE_RUN_USER}"
[15:53] <Dreaman> REK_007 i start with ubuntu 7.04 but in deep in linux world ubuntu is easy
[15:53] <sebsebseb> Vustom: then select it from your log in screen
[15:53] <sebsebseb> !nounity | vilcobra
[15:53] <jrib> Vustom: I believe you already have gnome 3 but gnome 3 can use different "shells" or interfaces.  Unity is default.  gnome-shell provides gnome shell
[15:53] <mari00> not sure what is going on here
[15:54] <Vustom> I see :)
[15:54] <jrib> mari00: try #httpd
[15:54] <Vustom> What's the best software to make your boot screen pretty?
[15:54] <Raboo> anyone know how i create two boned interfaces, bond0 and bond1?
[15:54] <kallisti5> so! 11.10 won't let you set the time in the gui :-\   the settings don't take
[15:54] <mari00> jrib: they sent me here
[15:54] <Vustom> ;D
[15:54] <jrib> mari00: for your -S message that's because of the way debian and ubuntu structure the config file and is more
[15:54] <jrib> mari00: for your -S message that's because of the way debian and ubuntu structure the config file and is *normal*
[15:54] <somsip> mari00: need to be root, and best run as a service, so sudo service apache2 start
[15:54] <REK_007> Dreaman: thats the only reason i have kept it .. to learn gradually :) and progressing quite well now :) so did setup of arch all on my own :) now doing more of it to learn more
[15:54] <mari00> meaning that messag is not a problem
[15:55] <jrib> mari00: what happens when you visit <IP_ADDRESS> in your browser?
[15:55] <sebsebseb> Vustom: look in the repos, there will be some Plymouth themes you can try there, (  Altough I personally find that other distros quite a few of them provide better Plymouth themes than any of those :D )
[15:55] <tery> I can't upgrade from 11.04 to 11.10, is it due to high traffic?
[15:55] <jrib> tery: possibly.
[15:55] <mari00> it loads the default virtualhost which is just /home/{ethan}/www
[15:55] <kallisti5> s
[15:55] <tery> jrib: ok I'll try later
[15:55] <jrib> tery: try choosing a local mirror in software-properties
[15:55] <mari00> there's nothing in that directory so it just lists the directories
[15:56]  * cce wonders if there's a channel for using gnome-panel with oneiric?  I'm an xmonad fan, upgraded, and gnome-panel no longer works well.
[15:56] <Dreaman> REK_007 learn terminal use :)
[15:56] <ubuntu1> can u tell me whats  included in ubuntu 11.10?
[15:56] <Vustom> Isn't Plymouth what they call that loading screen? Maybe I'm wrong, probably am.. :p
[15:56] <cce> ubuntu1: read the release notes?
[15:56] <sebsebseb> ubuntu1: main thing is Unity on top of Gnome 3
[15:56] <REK_007> Dreaman: yeah mate doing that only :) else would not have done arch  :P
[15:56] <sebsebseb> !notes | ubuntu1
[15:56] <dweez> !plymouth
[15:56] <Vustom> ^
[15:57] <heoa_> anyone else getting kernel panics with Ubuntu 11.04?
[15:57] <Dreaman> REK_007 i use gentoo and archlinux but start ubuntu
[15:57] <Dreaman> :)
[15:57] <jrib> mari00: pastebin your vhost configuration
[15:57] <mari00> jrib: ok
[15:57] <tuxforprez> Hi there I am trying to
[15:57] <tuxforprez> echo "Your weather code is $CODE It is now being move to the correct place "
[15:57] <tuxforprez> echo $CODE >> /opt/Weather/weather.config
[15:57] <tuxforprez>  but I want to replace the 1st line in weather.conf to $CODE
[15:57] <FloodBot1> tuxforprez: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:58] <jrib> tuxforprez: use sed
[15:58] <tuxforprez> Idk how :(
[15:58] <tuxforprez> just learning
[15:58] <tuxforprez> started *
[15:59] <Plugh> heoa_: Never seen a panic in 11.04
[15:59] <REK_007> Dreaman: you are saying all the thing i have had on mind :)i am learning it one ubuntu so that i can go in deeper with arch:)
[15:59] <jrib> tuxforprez: read intro tutorial for sed then
[16:00] <Dreaman> http://pastebin.com/8x4hg5cz   REK_007 see :) my system
[16:00] <tuxforprez> sed $CODE -e '/1/ '  | weather.conf     ???
[16:00] <okCPU> is there a CLI tool for finding files by date created?
[16:01] <tuxforprez> okCPU: ls -al
[16:01] <nixmaniack> Abhijit, sorry but i got disconnected, what if i don't have internet connection while upgrading from Live CD?
[16:01] <heoa_> Plugh: perhaps it has something to do with my harddrive then, not sure...
[16:01] <deebee_> I to save some time, I downloaded the alternate install CD via BitTorrent and ran /media/cdrom/cdromupgrade. As expected it asks me if I'd like to use the internet to get the latest packages. I say no, and it says the network won't be used at all. Then it starts fetching packages from the internet during the install. Any ideas what might be going on?
[16:01] <llutz> okCPU: not for ext-fs, it doesn't store creation-time
[16:01] <jrib> okCPU: date created is not recorded, so no.
[16:01] <heoa_> Plugh: perhaps it is just getting soon broken
[16:01] <Sool> Howdo i cut out the last two digits of a line in "cut"?
[16:01] <REK_007> Dreaman: cool :)
[16:01] <Plugh> heoa_: Is it during start up or at some random time after you have been running for a while?
[16:01] <Abhijit> nixmaniack, its not necessary
[16:01] <heoa_> Plugh: after some random time on...
[16:02] <Abhijit> nixmaniack, i never done upgradinng from cd. please refer to the documentatioon on ubuntu.com for upgrading
[16:02] <Dreaman> REK_007 yers use linux :)
[16:02] <Jep> hi
[16:02] <Jep> one question
[16:02] <dweez> okCPU, you might do a "man find" too
[16:02] <Plugh> heoa_: One possibility is a memory problem.
[16:02] <nixmaniack> Abhijit, okay thanks
[16:02] <REK_007> Dreaman: i have a quad boot :P
[16:02] <Jep> Does currently works the "delete files older than x days" option from kde trash? i have several files older than the day i've set and they're not deleted
[16:03] <Dreaman> REK_007 :)
[16:03] <heoa_> Plugh: how to know whether it is the case?
[16:03] <Jep> anyone?
[16:03] <ichbinder> jrib: sorry, I was battling with people about the same topic in #bash... ^^ hm... lsb-release -a and uname -a give me this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/707414/
[16:04] <frxstrem> what are the advantages and disadvantages of using 64-bit Ubuntu?
[16:04] <REK_007> Dreaman: i have mac+win7+ ubutnu+arch :P
[16:04] <logi01> would it be possible to use oneiric dvd with cdemu to reduce network traffic when updating from 10.04 to 10.11?
[16:04] <Dreaman> REK_007 ok
[16:04] <jrib> ichbinder: ah that's centos, guess they are using some other version of tar or an older one where --hard-dereference wasn't implemented yet
[16:04] <Plugh> heoa_: Memory problems can be hard to diagnose. There is a memtest program you can run. Its a boot option on some of the live CD's. My experience has been that memtest's have rarely found the memory problem unless its a hard failure.
[16:05] <Dreaman> REK_007 pic i see grub start menu :P
[16:05] <Plugh> heoa_: Check the kernel panic for any clues as to what might have triggered it. Also possible (but unlikely?) that a given program could be causing it. Some other hardware problem might also trigger it.
[16:06] <Plugh> heoa_: Check cables, make sure memory chips are fully seated, check that all internal fans are operating properly (to make sure its not heat related).
[16:06] <REK_007> Dreaman: BURG actually looks cooler :P
[16:07] <mari00> jrib: http://pastebin.com/uBnwUrJN
[16:07] <mari00> jrib: i moved the www folder to my home directory
[16:08] <mari00> jrib: i've also set up, asi mentioned initially, a line <IP_ADDRESS> in my /etc/hosts
[16:08] <mari00> when i load localhost/crisis it works, but when i try crisis.mini.net i get a 404.
[16:08] <EbanTide> Is xbmc compatable with the new release of ubuntu ?
[16:09] <ryann> EbanTide: does it work in 11.04?
[16:09] <EbanTide> Yes
[16:09] <daviddoria> I just upgraded to 11.10. In 11.04 there was an option in the login screen to use "classic ubuntu" which turned off the Unity sidebar. I no longer see this option. I tried "Ubuntu 2D" but it still seems to have the Unity sidebar. Is there a new way to do this?
[16:10] <usr13> mari00: May I suggest?:   Leave the DocumentRoot where it is and just use synlinks for the various sites you host.  Symlink them to /home/user/html or what ever you want to name it.
[16:10] <mari00> you mean like the ln -s thing?
[16:11] <deebee_> Even running '/media/cdrom/cdromupgrade --without-network' and it still tries to download the latest packages!
[16:11] <Lithos84> !nounity | daviddoria
[16:11] <okCPU> SET EMAIL<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[16:11] <daviddoria> thanks Lithos84
[16:11] <okCPU> ha... oops
[16:11] <usr13> mari00: Yes.  i.e.  ln -s /home/mari00/html /var/www/my-site-name
[16:11] <mari00> usr13: right that makes sense actually!
[16:12] <Lithos84> daviddoria: You're welcome.
[16:12] <ryaxnb> how do you add gnome 3.0 to the just-released Oneiric Ocelot
[16:12] <mari00> usr13: would have been much easier. thanks !
[16:12] <jrib> !nounity | ryaxnb
[16:12] <heoa_> Plugh: you are close, a fan in my laptop is making freaking noise time to time, it is probably somethnig to do with heat...
[16:12] <mari00> maybe i will see if that fixes the problem.
[16:12] <Lithos84> !nounity | ryaxnb
[16:12] <heoa_> ...my laptop does not like too much computing...
[16:12] <ryaxnb> !thank you...
[16:13] <ryaxnb> one more quesetion
[16:13] <Plugh> heoa_: yup. Noisy fans typically indicate one that is on its way out and is probably not doing its job properly. That is particularly bad in laptops.
[16:13] <ryaxnb> how do you add xubuntu to Ubuntu yet make Ubuntu the default loginscreen and desktop
[16:13] <ryaxnb> (e.g. the boot splash is Ubuntu)
[16:13] <sebsebseb> ryaxnb: sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[16:13] <Sool> how can i define a character-range in "cut"? "cut --characters=0123456789" gives me "cut: only one type of list may be specified"
[16:13] <Sool> ?
[16:13] <sebsebseb> ryaxnb: and then tell the log in screen what you want by default I guess
[16:13] <ryann> unity sucks!
[16:13] <ryaxnb> yes, but then xubuntu is the boot splash
[16:14] <ryaxnb> and i want Unity bootsplash (just Ubuntu 11.10)
[16:14] <sebsebseb> ryann: yeah then delete the Plymouth xubuntu theme, that should do it
[16:14] <ryaxnb> ok thanks.
[16:14] <usr13> mari00: Not only that, but when / if you decide to create another site, just do ln -s /hAngel Food Ministries was a non-profit, non-denominational organization dedicated to providing grocery relief to communities throughout the United States.
[16:14] <usr13> Angel Food's groceries were sold in a quantity for $30.00 per unit. Each month's menu was different from the previous month and consists of both fresh and frozen items with an average retail value of approximately $60.
[16:14] <Lithos84> ryaxnb: sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm
[16:14] <usr13> usr13: Sorry for that.  don't know what happened there but...
[16:15] <ichbinder> jrib: yeah... i made a stupid mistake that's too emberassing to tell, anyway... it's working now... :-/
[16:15] <heoa_> Plugh: any idea to fix it, a new fan or?
[16:15] <ichbinder> jrib: thanks for trying to help me!
[16:15] <tenX> usr13: does Angel Food's offer a drive in?
[16:15] <sebsebseb> !nounity > ryann
[16:15] <mari00> usr13: haha
[16:16] <ryaxnb> i dont think that's right
[16:16] <ryaxnb> i'll be using light dm
[16:16] <usr13> mari00: If you create another site:  ln -s /home/mari00/html2 /var/www/site2
[16:16] <mari00> usr13: i reset everything to point to the /var/www directoy as the base
[16:16] <PreK> Asus N53Jn overheat with 11.10 :S
[16:16] <Krenair> j #ubuntu+1
[16:16] <ryaxnb> at least, i want to be, since that's Oneiric default.
[16:16] <Krenair> woops
[16:16] <usr13> mari00: Anyway, you get the idea.
[16:16] <ryaxnb> i dont use gdm
[16:16] <Plugh> heoa_: A new fan may be in order or it could be an issue with a buildup of dust/dirt around the fan. Won't know until you open the machine to check. Don't do it yourself if the machine is under warranty. Safer to have a service center check it and/or replace fan.
[16:17] <mari00> usr13: then i created a symbolic link in /var/www pointing to my site at /home/mari00/www/the-site
[16:17] <ryaxnb> so to configure for ubuntu i delete the plymouth theme. Anything i need to do to lightdm (dpkg-reconfigure lightdm)
[16:17] <ryaxnb> or something
[16:17] <Anonxpct> @prek... Turn off gpu with acpi_call
[16:17] <mari00> but i am still having the same problem
[16:17] <sebsebseb> ryaxnb: yep just delete teh plymouth theme
[16:17] <ryaxnb> k
[16:17] <sebsebseb> ryaxnb: and I think Xubuntu uses lightdm now as well
[16:17] <usr13> mari00: That should do it.
[16:17] <mari00> with the domain name that i set in /etc/hosts
[16:17] <PreK> just did, with ironhide.. .
[16:17] <sebsebseb> ryaxnb: anyway if you do get gdm installed some how, but want lightdm, you can remove gdm and tehn tell it to use lightdm
[16:17] <ryaxnb> excellent, but i don't want the Xubuntu Lightdm theme either, so i guess i delete that.
[16:17] <heoa_> Plugh: I got the problem...after running with the laptop :D
[16:17] <Anonxpct> Still overheatng?
[16:17] <sebsebseb> ryaxnb: not sure, about the logi n screen tehem
[16:18] <cassio> hi. i just installed 11.10 and did the updates while installing. when i reboot it stops at "checking battery state"... gdm or lightdm, or whatever it is using is not firing up... anyone knows what gives?
[16:18] <ryaxnb> my main desktop will be Unity after all.
[16:18] <mari00> when i try to load localhost/the-site it works, but when i use the name i set up in /etc/hosts i get a 404 error.
[16:18] <sebsebseb> ryaxnb: oh?
[16:18] <ando> OK I have managed to boot the live CD, but when I select Install Ubuntu from the desktop or launcher it does nothing
[16:18] <ando> and running ubiquity --desktop %k gtk_ui form a terminal gives me a python error
[16:18] <ryaxnb> sebsebseb, yes.
[16:18] <ryaxnb> this is just for play.
[16:18] <usr13> mari00: What is the entry in /etc/hosts ?
[16:18] <sebsebseb> ryaxnb: oh ok I guess
[16:19] <ryaxnb> i have a 128GB HDD why not add some crap
[16:19] <PreK> and i starting hating the unity... lol
[16:19] <mari00> the /etc/hosts seems to be setup okay because when i ping crisis.mini.net it pings <IP_ADDRESS> as it should, so i am not sure what i going wrong here.
[16:19] <sebsebseb> ryaxnb: well you may want to install this as well whilst at it  then lubuntu-desktop
[16:19] <ryaxnb> i don't like LXDE, tried it before on something.
[16:19] <ryaxnb> i think as a PPA in 9.10
[16:19] <sebsebseb> ah ok
[16:19] <sebsebseb> wel it will be better now
[16:19] <daviddoria> I just changed to a 30" monitor. I was able to set the resolution to 2560x1600 like it wanted, but all text is really "bad" looking - is there a way to change the fonts or something so that it looks ok at this resolution?
[16:19] <needhelp1> i have a bug that is stoping me from booting my system. updated from 11.04 to 11.10, restarted the system, no errors on update. i get to the login screen, it will accept my pwd but the screen goes black for a few seconds, then keeps going back to the login screen, i have tried using all the environment options ubuntu/2d/recovery .. nothing will work. please help me
[16:19] <ryaxnb> i do find myself liking IceWM as a very light desktop for remote use and the like
[16:20] <usr13> mari00: Does it show the page:  "It works!" ?
[16:20] <ryaxnb> icewm is nice because to start a icewm X11 session you just start X11 and type icewm.
[16:20] <mari00> usr13: http://pastebin.com/1XUWusWZ
[16:20] <sebsebseb> ryaxnb: ah ok
[16:20] <ryaxnb> then you have all of it, without the complex startup procedure of DEs.
[16:20] <thorn> !bug
[16:20] <needhelp1> i have a bug that is stoping me from booting my system. updated from 11.04 to 11.10, restarted the system, no errors on update. i get to the login screen, it will accept my pwd but the screen goes black for a few seconds, then keeps going back to the login screen, i have tried using all the environment options ubuntu/2d/recovery .. nothing will work. please help me my guest login session does the same thing, wont work also.
[16:21] <cassio> hi. i just did a clean install of 11.10 and did the updates while installing. when i reboot it stops at "checking battery state"... gdm or lightdm, or whatever it is using is not firing up... anyone knows what gives?
[16:21] <mari00> usr13: what is it?
[16:21] <ben_unity> I have heard of a power draining bug in oneric, does anyone have any ideas of how to fix it? I am currently downloading the ISO, 1 hour to go
[16:21] <ryaxnb> i have not heard of that bug.
[16:21] <sebsebseb> needhelp1: oh sounds a bit like when,  last year, on another computer,  Ubuntu 10.04 refused to let anyone log in all of a sudden and I don't know why, so switched distro
[16:21] <Yamauchi> seems buggy
[16:21] <ryaxnb>  i get decent battery life, compared to 11.04
[16:21] <sebsebseb> needhelp1: uhmm anyway the bad news is
[16:21] <ryaxnb>  i have kernel 3.0.0-12
[16:21] <sebsebseb> needhelp1: it may be better to just re install, start over
[16:21] <iceroot> ben_unity: have a look at launchpad for workarounds
[16:21] <sebsebseb> easier that way as well
[16:22] <ryaxnb> i get around 5-6 hours on my 8-cell netbook
[16:22] <ben_unity> I have a 6cell netbook, on 11.04 I get 5~6 hours
[16:22] <cce> Does anyone know if it's possible to use the panel in oneiric unity but with another window manager?
[16:22] <usr13> mari00: Does it show the page:  "It works!" ?
[16:23] <mari00> usr13: if i run localhost or <IP_ADDRESS> yes it would load that--or rather it loads the index.html that i put there myself.
[16:23] <Promethes> i see that Gnome Shell is even worse than Unity, there is no such thing as taskbar, switching between opened windows is very complicated
[16:23] <cce> In particular, I'm trying to use xmonad instead of unity, but would like to use the toolbar (when it was gnome-panel in natty, worked)
[16:23] <sebsebseb> needhelp1: sounds like your upgrade has gone quite wrong,  and that may be easier to just re install, but I assume you got data on your computer that you want  and that kind of thing
[16:23] <mari00> usr13: which says "Hello there!"
[16:23] <pastorbelga> !Bald Tea Obreht - The Tiger's Wife (mobi).rar
[16:23] <ben_unity> I got this idea about battery life from http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/10/ubuntu-11-10-released/, where it has Battery Drain near the end
[16:24] <edwardpatch> help, how do i install wine freshly i installed it but now theres no audio drivers on it so i need to reinstall it so it wipes all info off how do i do it
[16:24] <sebsebseb> edwardpatch: delete  or move the hidden .wine folder in Home
[16:24] <jbicha> Promethes: GNOME Shell may just take a bit of time to get used to, you can read through http://library.gnome.org/users/gnome-help/stable/
[16:24] <sebsebseb> edwardpatch: then when you use Wine again, it's like your using for a first tmie
[16:24] <pastorbelga> !Bald Tea Obreht - The Tiger's Wife (mobi).rar
[16:24] <edwardpatch> so
[16:24] <edwardpatch> delete ir
[16:24] <edwardpatch> it
[16:24] <edwardpatch> *
[16:24] <sebsebseb> edwardpatch: well if you delete it, you lose everything you had in Wine yeah
[16:25] <edwardpatch> the .wine
[16:25] <sebsebseb> yep the .wine
[16:25] <edwardpatch> will it break anything
[16:25] <jbicha> instead of deleting, it may be better to just move it somewhere else
[16:25] <sebsebseb> edwardpatch: any programs you installed in Wine, all of that will be gone
[16:25] <edwardpatch> ok
[16:25] <jbicha> in case you want it later!
[16:25] <sebsebseb> edwardpatch: so you can just move it some wehre else, to keep all that if you want
[16:25] <edwardpatch> but i never insta;;ed any
[16:25] <sebsebseb> as I suggested earlier
[16:25] <Pici> ben_unity: If you're referring to the Sandy Bridge power regression, its listed in the release notes, more info at https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/818830
[16:25] <edwardpatch> i will delete it
[16:25] <sebsebseb> edwardpatch: well if there's nothing to lose from it, then just delete it
[16:25] <edwardpatch> brb
[16:26] <ben_unity> ah, thanks
[16:26] <edwardpatch> w8 how do i ge my .wine back then just uninstall it after that
[16:26] <edwardpatch> then install it
[16:26] <edwardpatch> in USC
[16:26] <sebsebseb> edwardpatch: then you can remove Wine itself if you want and rei nstall yeah
[16:27] <edwardpatch> ok
[16:27] <edwardpatch> thanks
[16:27] <sebsebseb> edwardpatch: sure Ubuntu Software Centre or use the termianl
[16:27] <edwardpatch> i will try now
[16:27] <sebsebseb> edwardpatch: sudo apt-get purge wine
[16:27] <sebsebseb> edwardpatch: sudo apt-get install wine, and make sure .wine is a new one, and yep :)
[16:27] <edwardpatch> whats purge wine
[16:27] <tarelerulz> I'm trying to control my computer via vnc ?  I have client on my phone and it works with  ip of my computer ,but when you put the host name  it don't .  Any ideas , could a firewall be turned on ?
[16:27] <sebsebseb> edwardpatch: well purge or remove,  purge does config files or wahtever as well
[16:27] <usr13> mari00: what you are wanting to do can not be done with the hosts file, afik
[16:27] <arvut> aptitude <3
[16:27] <edwardpatch> ok
[16:27] <ben_unity> purge deletes all of the files, like remove, only with config file
[16:27] <theadmin> tarelerulz: Is the hostname available on your local network?
[16:27] <mari00> usr13: but i have done it before.
[16:28] <theadmin> tarelerulz: You can't access a random machine on the internet with a hostname, you know
[16:28] <sebsebseb> edwardpatch: however the .wine you must move or delete that yourself
[16:28] <mari00> usr13: on my other computer i have a website that is goes directly to a specific directory under www and loads a site there.
[16:28] <edwardpatch> ok
[16:28] <mari00> i set up the domain name/address in /etc/hosts
[16:28] <edwardpatch> i cant find .win in /home/edwardpatch/
[16:28] <theadmin> edwardpatch: It's a hidden folder
[16:29] <sebsebseb> edwardpatch: well if you haven't opended anything in Wine yet, there won't be one
[16:29] <theadmin> edwardpatch: Enable showing those
[16:29] <zelozelos> can someone sum up the diff between 11.04 and 11.10 (besides if its lts or whatever) does it still have unity? are there any new things?
[16:29] <edwardpatch> i know i have all hidden files open
[16:29] <sebsebseb> edwardpatch: and it's a hidden foder  view > show hidden files and folders, well Nautilsu is a bit differnet in 11.10 hmm  probably teh same for this or pretty much though
[16:29] <arvut> edwardpatch: ls -Al ~
[16:29] <theadmin> edwardpatch: Just forget about it then
[16:29] <tarelerulz> Well, theadmin , I don't really know.   They are both hooked to the same router .  How would you even tell
[16:29] <edwardpatch> ok
[16:29] <somsip> mari00: you want crisis.mini.net to resolve locally to a different directory?
[16:29] <theadmin> tarelerulz: Hm, I guess that would work, let me try something
[16:29] <sebsebseb> edwardpatch: whats' the problem with Wine then?
[16:29] <sebsebseb> edwardpatch: have you even tried to install something in it?
[16:29] <mari00> somsip: i want crisis.mini.net to resolve to /var/www/crisis
[16:30] <edwardpatch> i have it but the audio driver went
[16:30] <edwardpatch> i cant play anygame
[16:30] <edwardpatch> nothing
[16:30] <somsip> mari00: ant me to help? We're OT. Got to private
[16:30] <sebsebseb> edwardpatch: maybe you need to do something in wine config
[16:30] <edwardpatch> i have sound for ubuntu not wine
[16:30] <Lithos84> !notes | zelozelos
[16:30] <sebsebseb> edwardpatch: and what game do you want to play?
[16:30] <mari00> somsip: in /var/www/crisis i have a wordpress site.
[16:30] <edwardpatch> SA-MP
[16:30] <mari00> somsip:  OT???
[16:30] <edwardpatch> played it all the time
[16:30] <sebsebseb> a 3D game? not even sure what that is
[16:30] <Guest4415> hello im just instaled xubuntu and i dont have sound why??
[16:30] <somsip> mari00: We're offtopic and it's a busy channel today. Go private
[16:30] <edwardpatch> but all sound went in wine and wont open it because of that
[16:31] <sebsebseb> edwardpatch: ok try re installing .wine then
[16:31] <edwardpatch> ok
[16:31] <Lithos84> zelozelos: It isn't LTS. That will be 12.04
[16:31] <thorn> I took a screenshot of a screen glitch. how can I share it for troubleshooting?
[16:31] <sebsebseb> edwardpatch: also you can get help in #winehq as well, but that channnel doesn't tend to be that active
[16:31] <mari00> somsip: thanks fo rthe offer!   i actually have run out of time for the moment, so i'll have to jump on later
[16:31] <sebsebseb> well last itme I was there anwyay
[16:31] <mari00> but thank you, and thanks everyone else for the help.
[16:31] <somsip> mari00: up to you
[16:31] <mari00> have a good one
[16:31] <Guest4415> somebady can help me?
[16:32] <sebsebseb> !ask | Guest4415
[16:32] <edwardpatch> ok
[16:32] <Guest4415> why i dont have sound in xubuntu??
[16:32] <sebsebseb> Guest4415: may be worth asking this in #xubuntu
[16:33] <DasEi> !sound > Guest4415
[16:33] <usr13> mari00: Well, it would then have to be the only site your webserver hosts and, well I've never done that so not sure how to.  NOw you can probably do it with iptables, but... this is a matter that is handled by the nameserver and the hosts file and you have to trick your computer into a different way of resolving the host name.
[16:35] <DasEi> Guest4415: I can have a look in #xubuntu, if you like
[16:35] <edwardpatch> its installing now
[16:36] <sebsebseb> edwardpatch: ok
[16:37] <edwardpatch> how do i make it go red my txt
[16:37] <thorn> !freedom
[16:37] <sebsebseb> edwardpatch: type the first few letters of someones name and hit tab
[16:37] <sebsebseb> !tab | edwardpatch
[16:37] <sebsebseb> edwardpatch: you high lighto smeone useauly when using their name on IRC
[16:38] <edwardpatch> sebsebseb, , ok i got it
[16:38] <edwardpatch> sebsebseb, ok i got it its not red
[16:39] <sebsebseb> edwardpatch: for me those two messages were read
[16:39] <sebsebseb> red
[16:39] <sebsebseb> since you high lighted me
[16:39] <pdtpatrick> wow there's so many downloading 11.10 -- :)
[16:39] <okCPU> so if ext-fs doesn't store creation time, why does ls -la print out a date field? what exactly does it represent?
[16:39] <sebsebseb> pdtpatrick: of course
[16:39] <edwardpatch> sebsebseb,  oh and for me grey
[16:39] <sebsebseb> edwardpatch: yep depends on the cilent, what  colour you get
[16:39] <sebsebseb> and how it's set up
[16:39] <mix22891> l
[16:39] <DasEi> pdtpatrick: it stores last access
[16:39] <llutz> okCPU: mtime
[16:40] <MeanEYE> For some strange reason Ubuntu 11.10 installer won't let me check "Log in automatically". Any ideas?
[16:40] <edwardpatch> sebsebseb, ok i installed wine but now /home/edwardpatch/.wine folder
[16:40] <mix22891> hello, there are error with the Kazam program, i can't upload videos to youtube
[16:40] <shazzr> Are there any known issues with empathy? I can't make any changes to the settings.
[16:41] <heoa_> how to kill freezed commands? ...as even "sudo su" is frozen...
[16:41] <daviddoria> I have two monitors. I would like to rotate one of them 90 degrees. I don't see this option in either the NVidia settings or the System Settings -> Displays of Ubuntu 11.10 - can anyone suggest how to do this?
[16:41] <okCPU> llutz: any utils that can calculate create time from m c or a time?
[16:41] <heoa_> pkill thatDamnInfiniteLoop...
[16:41] <llutz> okCPU: nope
[16:42] <okCPU> llutz: so there is no way at all to get the create time unless i setup a process that listens to the mtime of a directory and manually stores it?
[16:42] <sebsebseb> edwardpatch: yep
[16:42] <sebsebseb> edwardpatch: now you can try your program again in Wine, and find out what happens
[16:42] <sebsebseb> edwardpatch: probably same as before though
[16:42] <DasEi> heoa_: depends, tried to ctrl-c it ? else by killall <appName> or kill <PID>
[16:42] <llutz> okCPU: yep. ext4 has the ability to store creation-date but it isn't used yet
[16:43] <vega-> daviddoria: hardly, when even twinview doesn't work properly in oneiric ...
[16:43] <somsip> okCPU: change your fstab to not use defaults and change the mount options manually
[16:43] <vega-> overall, oneiric dual screen experience is not good = doesn't work
[16:43] <jrib>  heoa_ you shouldn't "sudo su"
[16:43] <godzuki> Woohoo! New release
[16:44] <jrib> okCPU: or write a new filesystem I guess
[16:44] <kermit> where can i find a patch that would be on patchwork.kernel.org, which is down?
[16:44] <heoa_> DasEi: for sure and many times!
[16:44] <heoa_> DasEi: even ^C ^Z, not working...
[16:45] <okCPU> jrib: lol... uh, no
[16:45] <mix22891> hello, there are error with the Kazam program, i can't upload videos to youtube
[16:45] <boba> kermit: What patch are you looking for?
[16:45] <phibxr> After the latest round of updates to 11.10, the Dash actually opens *behind* everything else in Unity 3D. Anyone else seen that issue?
[16:45] <DasEi> heoa_: did you find the process causing the freeze ? (via htop .f.e., or syslog) ?
[16:45] <daviddoria> vega-,  are these known issues they are working on?
[16:45] <kermit> boba: 857442
[16:46] <jrib> okCPU: why do you want creation time?
[16:46] <heoa_> DasEi: I will if you tell more
[16:46] <okCPU> jrib: need to suck down files that were added via ftp from the last week
[16:46] <heoa_> DasEi: I did just in /proc, $grep -r temperature *
[16:47] <heoa_> orr withotu *
[16:47] <wang_> hello, I keep getting W: GPG error: http://archive.canonical.com oneiric Release: The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG 40976EAF437D05B5 Ubuntu Archive Automatic Signing Key<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[16:47] <wang_>  when I run apt-get update
[16:47] <wang_> anyone have any suggestions hhow to fix that?
[16:47] <DasEi> heoa_: if you got unresponsibness, there will me a reason, aka something hangs
[16:47] <heoa_> $ grep -r temperature *     in /proc was the command
[16:48] <heoa_> DasEi: the reason is probably that /proc is a virtual somethnig and it regenerates apparently things all the time...so it will never end...or
[16:48] <heoa_> ?
[16:48] <rhizmoe> my new band name: the virtual somethings
[16:48] <heoa_> DasEi: very well amount of fs and dirs is finite ... but not sure about the content...
[16:48] <wang_> anyone?
[16:49] <wang_> I can't run apt-get at all now..
[16:49] <jrib> llutz: ah you're right crtime is stored on ext4 and one can actually get at it using debugfs
[16:49] <heoa_> DasEi: because "files" are not really files there everytime (although they look like that)
[16:49] <mix22891> can i get some help here or what?????????????????????/
[16:49] <heoa_> mix22891: use less questions mark, plz.
[16:49] <somsip> !ask > mix22891
[16:49] <mix22891> there is an error with the Kazam program, i can't upload videos to youtube
[16:49] <kristianpaul> Can i upgrade to ubuntu 11.10 from a cd?
[16:50] <theadmin> !alternate | kristianpaul
[16:50] <llutz> jrib: it'll take some time since all the other tools make use of it i'd guess
[16:50] <DasEi> heoa_: they get filled at everrytime again, right
[16:50] <tacomaster> i was wondering i dont really mind unity but i absolutly hate when i dont choose ubuntu classic that my program options are at the top and not on the program is there a way to fix this?
[16:50] <Lithos84> kristianpaul: Only with text install CD.
[16:50] <kristianpaul> Lithos84: there instructions about it?
[16:50] <maulana> how i find visual effect for aktif desktop effect on ubuntu 11.04
[16:50] <somsip> tacomaster: you want to remove global menu? What version?
[16:50] <boba> kermit: https://git.kernel.org/?p=linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git;a=commitdiff;h=d179e84ba5da1d0024087d1759a2938817a00f3f
[16:50] <Efrin> is it possible to return to classic gnome theme in ubuntu 11.10?
[16:51] <n1ko> anyone have any clues why netatalk is borked? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/netatalk/+bug/810732 and for myself http://pastebin.com/ayrhWaNb. Same thing happens even when using (self) compiled 2.2.0
[16:51] <kristianpaul> I mean i for that alternate cd and...
[16:51] <sebsebseb> boba: no
[16:51] <somsip> !nounity > Elfix
[16:51] <sebsebseb> Efrin: no
[16:51] <tacomaster> somsip: i just upgraded to 11.10
[16:51] <wang_> anyone having the badsig issue? I tried the import and it doesn't work
[16:51] <tacomaster> somsip: but it was the same in 11.04
[16:51] <kermit> boba: thank you!!
[16:51] <Lithos84> !upgrade | kristianpaul
[16:51] <Promethes> how to install new applications in Gnome Shell? I don't see Ubuntu Software Center anywhere
[16:51] <kristianpaul> Thanks !
[16:51] <Efrin> sebsebseb: thanks, is unity good for programmers etc?
[16:52] <edwardpatch> yea
[16:52] <Efrin> i couldnt get used to id in 11.4
[16:52] <DasEi> heoa_: what's the r in grep for ? did you want to find files containing temperature ?
[16:52] <edwardpatch> Efrin, i know one
[16:52] <somsip> tacomaster: http://www.webupd8.org/2011/03/disable-appmenu-global-menu-in-ubuntu.html maybe helpful?
[16:52] <Lithos84> kristianpaul: You're welcome!
[16:52] <MeanEYE> Efrin: In 11.04 it was crappy :) software. Now it's much more decent.
[16:52] <MeanEYE> Well not crappy but unstable and unfinished
[16:52] <ugarich> hi
[16:52] <sebsebseb> Efrin: is Unit good for programmers, no not really
[16:52] <heoa_> DasEi: recursion, goes into every subdir...
[16:52] <DasEi> and $ is for prompt (no arg behind) , heoa_
[16:52] <heoa_> DasEi: quite resourcfull command...
[16:52] <edwardpatch> Efrin, WXFormBuilder does C++
[16:53] <mix22891> fu
[16:53] <DasEi> heoa_: ls -lr /proc/temperature
[16:53] <MeanEYE> sebsebseb: Hm, how do you measure if something is good for programmers or not?
[16:53] <Efrin> hmm...
[16:53] <ugarich> what is? "Cannot send to channel"
[16:54] <sebsebseb> MeanEYE: uh most of the expereinced Desktop Linux users don't like Unity, simple as that, and this is off topic
[16:54] <heoa_> DasEi: no not like that temperature is not a file
[16:54] <Abhijit> ugarich, we can read you
[16:54] <DasEi> !register | ugarich
[16:54] <wang_> okay, I get the badsig message and I tried both the instructiosn here.. and it still fails.. anyone help?
[16:54] <wang_> http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-fix-the-ubuntu-gpg-error-badsig.html