[07:49] <archlich> cedega is no better than windows -.-
[07:49] <trpr> nickrud: heh. i wish. poor manager of money
[07:49] <gogeta> LOL
[07:49] <nickrud> alla1: sudo fdisk -l
[07:50] <nickrud> trpr: I second that emotion :)
[07:50] <kaushal> hi
[07:50] <kaushal> I am using ubuntu 7.04
[07:50] <blue_> So If I am purchasing an all-in-one printer/fax/copier etc that matches up to "Work Perfectly" on LinuxPrinting.org - does that mean its just plug and play?
[07:50] <nickrud> geezone: without more info, no one can.
[07:50] <blue_> Or do you have to hunt down drivers and things like that
[07:51] <kaushal> when I open a file say vi test.pl
[07:51] <trpr> last time i was at the cedega site they were giving incentives to older members. i should be grandfather status by now
[07:51] <xTheGoat121x> I've got another one.. my girlfriend's laptop won't allow her to switch users in Ubuntu
[07:51] <kaushal> and when i press i button twice i dont get insert mode
[07:51] <gogeta> blue linux comes with a libary of drivers
[07:51] <xTheGoat121x> any ideas as to why?
[07:51] <nickrud> blue_: probably no downloads at all. Stay away from lexmark
[07:51] <gogeta> blue should be plug in play if its listed
[07:51] <blue_> yeah, so i heard - i'm going with HP :D
[07:51] <blue_> 6510
[07:51] <lee__> ahh I just found a bug or a n oops
[07:51] <blue_> plug and play then? great
[07:51] <lee__> hehee
[07:51] <blue_> :D
[07:51] <Nutubuntu> foleymark, I heard ppl call it
[07:51] <nickrud> blue_: hp supports linux actively, that's a very safe purchase
[07:52] <lee__> oh well no buggy its in the graphics thingy that s all
[07:52] <GreySim> Ah, figured out my problem before submitting a bug report, thankfully. I'd just thrown a bunch of .ttf files into /usr/share/fonts, which I just found out is *not* the way to do it. >.<
[07:52] <blue_> sweet
[07:52] <lee__> eh Iguess its the thing that supose to make the window woble
[07:52] <kaushal> :( :(
[07:52] <geezone> Nickrud: if ubuntu gose into a fsck check but fix all errors but one is said fail should i be worried or no.. the one error failed but it moved to fast for me to see it..
[07:52] <alla1> nickrud:this command show the partitions in terminal but i want to make the partitions on my desk to make it fast access to it
[07:52] <gogeta> ownez old cheap hp
[07:53] <gogeta> never usen it
[07:53] <gogeta> inks probly all dryed up
[07:53] <gogeta> LOL
[07:53] <nickrud> alla1: what kind of partition
[07:53] <alla1> fat32
[07:53] <gogeta> ext3
[07:53] <gogeta> LOL
[07:53] <xTheGoat121x> BRB all
[07:53] <kaushal> hi gogeta
[07:54] <gogeta> bo
[07:54] <lee__> oh how come we cant form mat or partion in NTFS in 7.04?  or did it eer have tht abillity and waht is ext3?
[07:54] <nickrud> geezone: don't know, honestly, without seeing the error. I'd boot a live cd and run fsck manually
[07:54] <kaushal> when I open a file say vi test.pl
[07:54] <kaushal> and when i press i button twice i dont get insert mode
[07:54] <alla1> nickrud: fat32
[07:54] <gogeta> its insert
[07:54] <geezone> ok thanks
[07:54] <kaushal> i did that also
[07:54] <kaushal> I pressed insert button twice
[07:54] <gogeta> odd
[07:55] <cafuego> it's not insert, you hit 'i' just once.
[07:55] <nickrud> alla1: they should show up automatically. But put the contents of /etc/fstab , and the output of sudo fdisk -l on !pastebin (see following)
[07:55] <gogeta> ctrl i
[07:55] <kaushal> ok
[07:55] <nickrud> !pastebin | alla1
[07:55] <ubotu> alla1: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[07:55] <cafuego> if vi doesn't work, there's always 'nano'
[07:55] <Nutubuntu> kaushal, even numbers of keypresses don't do anything. Odd numbers toggle, and primes have special properties
[07:55] <gogeta> or vim
[07:55] <nickrud> yes vim is vi for humnas
[07:55] <GreySim> lee__: I think there's something you can install to enable NTFS support. ext3 is a Linux filesystem. Your main partition is going to have to be ext3 or another Linux-compatible type; you can't install Ubuntu onto an NTFS partition, since it doesn't support the features the Linux kernel needs, I believe.
[07:55] <nickrud> *humans
[07:56] <Nutubuntu> them too
[07:56] <blue_> where is the best place to get themes, skins, etc
[07:56] <blue_> 'repositories'?
[07:57] <nickrud> !repositories | blue_
[07:57] <ubotu> blue_: The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[07:57] <cafuego> blue_: art.ubuntu.com or somesuch
[07:57] <cafuego> blue_: and themes.gnome.org ...?
[07:57] <GreySim> blue_: I get most of mine from www.gnome-look.org or http://art.gnome.org but there are other places. Deviant Art has some.
[07:57] <lee__> ah i see np..thre wierd thing is it was asking me inf i wanted to import my windows profile...seeng that kinda made me panic aan eh i wiped the drive
[07:57] <blue_> sweet, thanks
[07:57] <databuddy> !intel
[07:57] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about intel - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[07:57] <databuddy> !i810
[07:57] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about i810 - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[07:57] <cafuego> blue_: To install, download them and drop the tarball on the Themes control panel window.
[07:57] <lee__> or was it trying to make my life easier?
[07:58] <tomato^> is there a free online chat system for customer support?
[07:58] <nickrud> !info xserver-driver-video-intel } databuddy
[07:58] <ubotu> Package xserver-driver-video-intel does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[07:58] <blue_> ? is there some step by step guide for that?
[07:58] <blue_> like a forum link
[07:58] <gogeta> yea its alled irc
[07:58] <blue_> no idea what a tarball is
[07:58] <gogeta> lol
[07:58] <nickrud> erg, never can remember those names
[07:58] <blue_> lol
[07:58] <GreySim> lee__: I think it was just trying to import bookmarks, wallpaper, and a few other settings. I'm not sure though, as I've never used that feature.
[07:58] <lee__> its a giant ball of tar
[07:58] <cafuego> blue_: Just open th Themes applet, and dump the downloaded file on it. That's all there is to it.
[07:59] <tomato^> can someone give me a link? im looking for a free  online chat support
[07:59] <lee__> me neiether ..i was afraid that it would literaly mess things up
[07:59] <gogeta> you in it fool\
[07:59] <blue_> so i'll download a file to my desktop and go to system > theme
[07:59] <blue_> and drag it in there
[07:59] <lee__> as they say if indoubt...thow it out lol
[07:59] <cafuego> blue_: Yep. A tarball is a simply a file ending in .tgz or .tar.gz
[07:59] <Nutubuntu> Well, goodnight all ... I'm afraid of waking up with POIUYTREWQ embedded in mirror writing in my forehead
[08:00] <blue_> i see :D
[08:00] <GreySim> blue_: Dragging and dropping onto the themes applet works for *most* themes. Archives containing multiple themes will have to be installed manually though, generally by placing the unarchived files in /home/user/.themes/
[08:00] <GreySim> blue_: I think that mostly only happens on gnome-look.org though. Maybe deviantART.
[08:00] <blue_> is that where 'chmod' and such comes in?
[08:00] <blue_> with the terminal
[08:00] <nickrud> alla1: you about got that stuff up?
[08:00] <blue_> terminal = manual install?
[08:00] <GreySim> blue_: I don't think so. Not sure why it would.
[08:01] <surface> how to know a device 's uuid?
[08:01] <gogeta> tomato your in rhe ubuntu online chat nor ask question
[08:01] <blue_> oh =\
[08:01] <lee__> eh it has downloadable themes under the theems setting
[08:01] <GreySim> blue_: You don't have to touch a terminal for manually installing.
[08:01] <surface> how to get /dev/sda1's uuid for /etc/fstabs
[08:01] <nickrud> surface: blkid   in a terminal
[08:01] <surface> nickrud, let me try, thx
[08:01] <GreySim> blue_: You can unarchive the file by right-clicking and extracting, then I use Ctrl+L to pop up a location bar, type "~/.themes", and that will pop open your themes folder.
[08:02] <Symmetria> hrm, lo all
[08:02] <GreySim> blue_: But again, that's only for archives with multiple themes. Archives with one theme (the majority of them), are just a drag 'n' drop into the theme applet.
[08:02] <Symmetria> anyone got any idea why, after I've enabled remote desktop with vino-preferences, its still refusing my vnc session connections
[08:02] <Symmetria> and if I look in a netstat its definately not actually working
[08:03] <blue_> i see
[08:03] <biouser> anyone use Audacity
[08:03] <biouser> ?
[08:04] <chetnick> Symmetria are connecting from inside LAN?
[08:04] <Don64> biouser: i've used it for book voice recording
[08:05] <Symmetria> chetnick externally, no firewalls etc
[08:05] <chetnick> router?
[08:05] <blue_> so i'm looking for metacity themes right?
[08:05] <blue_> or does it not matter what kind
[08:05] <Symmetria> but it aint got a tcp listen on it anyway so not sure that would make a difference, but yeah, behind routers, all of which are under my control
[08:05] <chetnick> forward connections on vnc port
[08:05] <chetnick> trough your router
[08:05] <Symmetria> heh chetnick there is no NAT here
[08:05] <Symmetria> its all live ip space
[08:05] <Symmetria> so no forwarding needed
[08:06] <chetnick> so no router than :)
[08:06] <Symmetria> errr yes, a router
[08:06] <Symmetria> a router doesnt only do nat
[08:06] <Symmetria> :)
[08:06] <chetnick> DMZ
[08:06] <chetnick> ?
[08:06] <Symmetria> chetnick heh, no, a router, *laugh*
[08:07] <Symmetria> heh chetnick routers do a lot more than just nat, they do everything from mpls to QoS :p
[08:07] <Symmetria> the moment you cross a subnet boundary you have to pass through a router
[08:07] <lee__> ok real question is the best way to run windows aps is to have them allready on installed in widows then run it through linux using wine or beryl?
[08:07] <Symmetria> (well, technically you could pass through a L3 switch but then its doing routing anyway)
[08:08] <nickrud> lee__: no, install it into wine. (and beryl is a pretty window manager)
[08:08] <chetnick> i dont know than
[08:08] <codename> I need some help with my Video card
[08:08] <blue_> sorry, back - anyone know what themes apply for ubuntu - i think it's Metacity right?
[08:08] <lee__> how do i ececute beryl then?
[08:08] <nickrud> lee__: with a gun?
[08:09] <riotkittie> with two guns. you can never be too sure.
[08:09] <jimmy815a> i just run beryl as a startup program lee
[08:09] <nickrud> lee__: beryl is dead software already, it's been replaced by compiz-fusion. In 9 days, you can install it with gutsy. I'd suggest not even worrying about beryl
[08:09] <lee__> lol..  idon't want to frag everything lol
[08:09] <codename> I need some help with my video card.
[08:09] <lee__> oh ok
[08:09] <Kudak> how come i cant set my resolution to any higher than 1024x768 ?? my screen supports up to 1600x1200
[08:10] <lee__> actualy this is saying that i have compiz lol
[08:10] <marko-ubuntu> beryl worx nice  is wery stable now
[08:10] <riotkittie> Kudak: you need to reconfigure xorg. you can do this by manually editing /etc/X11/xorg.conf as sudo [backup first]  or by running the dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg command in a terminal
[08:10] <nickrud> Kudak: the file /var/log/Xorg.0.log will have a lot of info about that. It's long, but just scroll through until you get to the section that shows the resolutions
[08:11] <codename> ya
[08:11] <Symmetria> hrm, other than that tick box in vino-preferences to enable it, is there anything else I need to do to actually start vino
[08:12] <ethik> .
[08:12] <lee__> ok if my pc is saying i have compiz..how in tarnations do i access it lol
[08:12] <nickrud> lee__: what kind of video card do you have?
[08:12] <codename> tarnations
[08:12] <codename> good one
[08:12] <codename> Nvidia GeForce 6800 GT
[08:12] <Kudak> nickrud: the Xorg file is equal to the XF86Config file in other linux distributions ???
[08:13] <lee__> eh the only thing i did with net working i set my moms msn boxy thingy to talk to her pc lol
[08:13] <nickrud> Kudak: yes, it's just a rename to all practical effects
[08:13] <Kudak> nickrud: alright, thanks.
[08:13] <lee__> nickrud i have an ati x300
[08:13] <chetnick> i would test that in some other environment first
[08:13] <Dark_Rain> morning guys
[08:13] <nickrud> Kudak: XF86Config went out with the XFree version of X
[08:13] <chetnick> to see is it working
[08:14] <chetnick> morning Dark_Rain
[08:14] <nickrud> lee__: no compiz for us, then. The ati drivers don't support it. You will be able to use compiz-fusion in gutsy, though.
[08:14] <Kudak> nickrud: i seems to be outdated :(
[08:14] <ethik> im bored :|
[08:14] <lee__> so fr its been 100 percent stable minus one bug or glitch that i found
[08:14] <nickrud> Kudak: welcome back then
[08:14] <Kudak> nickrud: it seems like i need to read about linux from scratch all over again lol
[08:14] <ethik> Anyone got something fun to do on linux?
[08:14] <chetnick> ethik tell me than
[08:15] <lee__> i have gutsy
[08:15] <chetnick> how to make my sound work
[08:15] <ethik> tell u what?
[08:15] <chetnick> in CS over wine
[08:15] <ethik> oh
[08:15] <ethik> I dunno
[08:15] <lee__> well the beta version
[08:15] <nickrud> Kudak: ah, what a great way to learn about linux. I ran that for 6 months, eating my own dog food.
[08:15] <ethik> Getting CS to work on my laptop with WINE seems like fun though...
[08:15] <lee__> wine gave me headaches
[08:15] <lee__> slow to respond
[08:15] <chetnick> it works fine just the F sound
[08:16] <ethik> what do u use to run windows apps then?
[08:16] <chetnick> there is that cedega
[08:16] <nickrud> codename: you got lost in the flow, what's your problem? (I don't know a lot about nvidia, a warning up front)
[08:16] <riotkittie> i use windows to run windows apps. because i am just that awesome.
[08:16] <lee__> nickrud, I have gutsy, i went to load compiz..it said it was the latest version
[08:16] <chetnick> but it is worthless
[08:16] <chetnick> i couldnt get nothing done with it
[08:16] <codename> Basically the graphics are not working properly.
[08:16] <nickrud> !xgl | lee__ us ati people have to run a special server, this has instructions)
[08:16] <codename> So I was gonna try
[08:16] <ubotu> lee__ us ati people have to run a special server, this has instructions): Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[08:17] <codename> Switching cards.
[08:17] <ethik> know what my favorite thing about ubunto is? the cube workspace effect
[08:17] <codename> Is it a pain hotswapping cards?
[08:17] <ethik> its like
[08:17] <ethik> wee
[08:17] <ethik> wee
[08:17] <marko-ubuntu> lecrossover office is easy to use for win apps
[08:17] <lee__> I have opengl as well
[08:17] <marko-ubuntu> *crossover
[08:17] <nickrud> codename: every time you change cards, you have to rewrite /etc/X11/xorg.conf, and restart X
[08:17] <Kudak> nickrud: if i wanna create a backup,   cp /var/log/Xorg.0.log <what do i put to make it stay in same directory) Xorg.0.log.backup ????
[08:17] <codename> How long does that take?
[08:17] <ethik> any good games for linux?
[08:18] <codename> Is it pretty hard?
[08:18] <lee__> In fact I have the entire ati catylysts installed
[08:18] <chetnick> marko-ubuntu: crossover
[08:18] <lee__> and running
[08:18] <chetnick> you can run CS
[08:18] <chetnick> ?
[08:18] <nickrud> Kudak: I always cd into the directory if I'm doing that, fewer characters to type.  then sudo cp <file> <file>.back
[08:18] <chetnick> odakle si mako care
[08:18] <ethik> I want something thats just a linux app
[08:18] <ethik> lol
[08:18] <chetnick> marko*
[08:18] <ethik> No stress
[08:18] <ethik> its too late at night
[08:18] <Kudak> nickrud: yea but how do u do that the way i asked? i know its possible i forgot how the command structure should be
[08:19] <lee__> nickrud, I  have opengl
[08:19] <marko-ubuntu> :)
[08:19] <nickrud> codename: usually it's just changing one line, from one video driver to another. If you have a pretty standard setup, sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh will ask a question or two, and you're done
[08:19] <codename> k thanks
[08:19] <nickrud> Kudak: sudo cp /path/to/file /path/to/file.back
[08:19] <codename> or i can just rename "nv" to "nvidia"
[08:19] <nickrud> codename: precisely
[08:19] <xTheGoat121x> nickrud, you seem to be the local expert this evening.
[08:19] <codename> and use the Restricted dirvers manager to install the proper drivers
[08:20] <codename> Thanks!
[08:20] <lee__> eh I loaded the ati drivers taht i got from ati
[08:20] <Nottingham> hi ^^, is there a way to change or increase mount for /var/ from x. mbs to x. mbs mount?
[08:20] <Symmetria> urgh, heh, Xrealvnc segfaults on me :p justttt great
[08:20] <tb77> lee__: you need xserver-xgl
[08:20] <nickrud> xTheGoat121x: the real knowledgeable people are not around, and the questions are low hanging fruit. Perspective is everything :)
[08:20] <lee__> tb77 wahts taht?
[08:20] <xTheGoat121x> riotkittie..... stabby motions?
[08:20] <mrak> codename: its another drivers ...
[08:20] <KevlarSoul> how can I update my nvidia driver without access to the internet
[08:20] <riotkittie> he shouldnt need anything if he's running gutsy, and if he does need anything, he should ask in the gutsy support channel, #ubuntu+1
[08:21] <codename> ?
[08:21] <codename> What was the question mrak?
[08:21] <chetnick> KevlarSoul dont think you can do that
[08:21] <lee__> eh this is where it spit me out at
[08:21] <xTheGoat121x> nickrud, haha, well I'm about in the same boat.  People take me for some kind of expert in here sometimes, yet I haven't used Ubuntu for more than, oh 3 months
[08:21] <nickrud> lee__: read that page I gave you, it tells you what you _have_ to do
[08:21] <chetnick> unless you have update localy
[08:21] <mrak> codename: .... can just rename "nv" to "nvidia ...
[08:21] <temper> is it possible convert from ruby object to ruby class (or any other interpreted language)
[08:21] <codename> k
[08:22] <lee__> eh waht page
[08:22] <nickrud> !xgl | lee__
[08:22] <nickrud> ah, it's soooo close, riotkittie
[08:22] <xTheGoat121x> riotkittie, what's wrong
[08:22] <Symmetria> ok, errr, in ubuntu, if I add another partition to a drive using fdisk, how do I add the device node in /dev manually since it doesnt exist :p
[08:22] <lee__> ok
[08:23] <Symmetria> it *should* automatically do it as far as I know, I just cant remeber how to trigger it without a reboot
[08:23] <nickrud> Symmetria: if it's not in /dev, then you got problems. udev creates those automagically
[08:23] <Symmetria> nickrud yeah, but I think it only does that on boot
[08:23] <Symmetria> I need to trigger that manually somehow
[08:23] <temper> is it possible convert from ruby object to ruby class (or any other interpreted language)
[08:23] <nickrud> Symmetria: I saw that bit late :)
[08:24] <astro76> Symmetria, maybe try restarting udev... sudo invoke-rc.d udev restart
[08:24] <nickrud> Symmetria: you can try sudo /etc/init.d/udev restart
[08:24] <lee__> eh I have 3d already running
[08:24] <xTheGoat121x> Everyone else beat me to that answer
[08:24] <nickrud> Symmetria: although I vaguely remember that was unrecommended. But that was a while ago
[08:24] <tb77> lee__: you have fglrx drivers installed?
[08:25] <Symmetria> hrm, didnt add the node when I restarted it
[08:25] <lee__> Yes
[08:25] <nickrud> lee__: three d is not enough for ati. You must run the xserver-xgl
[08:25] <tb77> lee__: xserver-xgl?
[08:25] <lee__> Eh I also have this thing that alows me to change my
[08:25] <trpr> Symmetria: mknod comes to mind, but i have no idea how to use it
[08:25] <lee__> anti alizialization
[08:26] <lee__> to 6x
[08:26] <Symmetria> heh trpr mknod is definately not a good idea while running udev, since udev and mknod could end up conflicting with each other :)
[08:26] <lee__> and my deintelacing to
[08:26] <Symmetria> that was my first thought as well, then I realized heh, not a good idea
[08:26] <lee__> 16x
[08:26] <nickrud> Symmetria: you could always try /dev/.static/dev
[08:26] <xTheGoat121x> So, lemme ask, does anyone know why Ubuntu would prevent a session from logging out or switching users?
[08:27] <lee__> and its saying that I have th ooption of overiding the 8 buit buffer
[08:27] <mynyml> is there a way to turn off ~ files?
[08:27] <lee__> or is there more to it the nthat?
[08:27] <KevlarSoul> Why cant I install network through terminal?
[08:27] <mynyml> like, prevent them from being automatically generated?
[08:27] <WaltzingAlong> mynyml: the back up files, sure
[08:27] <Symmetria> heh nickrud *nod* that or just reboot the goddamn thing :p heh, but would rather see if I can figure this out :p otherwise Im gonna sit wondering
[08:28] <nickrud> Symmetria: maybe link that to /dev/, and have a shutdown srcript to remove the link for the next boot :)
[08:28] <lee__> eeehheew its not for gutsy
[08:28] <WaltzingAlong> xTheGoat121x: most likely because you are in kde with gdm or vice version in gnome with kdm
[08:28] <mynyml> WaltzingAlong: that'd be great, how can i do it? google gives me everything but what i need on that term and i dont know how to restrict it
[08:29] <WaltzingAlong> mynyml: which program are you using that generates them? typically i just name them starting with a . instead
[08:29] <KevlarSoul> how can I install the internet.
[08:29] <xTheGoat121x> WaltzingAlong, doubtful.  It's a fresh install of Ubuntu Feisty.... I will say, it was the first time I had to set up the partitions by hand, could that have something to do with it?  Could I have set it up wrong?
[08:30] <WaltzingAlong> xTheGoat121x: no i would not think it has anything to do with the partitions. so you are using both gdm and gnome, ok
[08:30] <mynyml> WaltzingAlong: all editors generate them, i thought it was a feature of the filesystem actually ...!
[08:30] <lee__> Eh I have no Idea waht I did then lol
[08:30] <parisi> hmm
[08:30] <Seveas> !test
[08:30] <ubotu> Failed.
[08:31] <lee__> I guess I traded one thing off for another
[08:31] <lee__> erg
[08:31] <chetnick> Symmetria i`m not sure what are you trying to do
[08:31] <chetnick> but this might help
[08:31] <chetnick> http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/lfs/view/stable/chapter06/kernfs.html
[08:31] <IronFlint> does any1 know how to install oddcast
[08:31] <IronFlint> i, still a nix n00b
[08:31] <chetnick> Mounting and Populating /dev
[08:32] <lee__> well, what i was trying to do was prevent my screen from melting down, as it was an hour glass shape
[08:32] <xTheGoat121x> WaltzingAlong, the only other thing  I can think of is a problem with the ACPI.... I've heard stories about incompatibilities wreaking all kinds of havoc
[08:33] <ethik> bored..
[08:33] <nickrud> go for a walk
[08:33] <lee__> it seems that i have partial effects though like...a flashing tab for a new sight , just no woble
[08:33] <ethik> its 11:33 PM
[08:33] <IronFlint> well i need help if ur bored ethik
[08:33] <Symmetria> heh, just bounced the box in the end, quicker and easier *shrug*
[08:33] <ethik> What do u need help with?
[08:34] <IronFlint> im a nix n00b
[08:34] <lee__> so then what did i do the nickrud?
[08:34] <IronFlint> and im trying to figure out how to install oddcast
[08:34] <ethik> guess wut? :D
[08:34] <ethik> me too
[08:34] <ethik> lol
[08:34] <nickrud> lee__: I don't know?
[08:34] <ethik> im a nab too
[08:34] <IronFlint> hehe
[08:35] <Symmetria> heh first linux system I think I've had on my network in 3 years other than a gentoo desktop
[08:35] <GreySim> Should I file a bug on a package in Universe, or does the bug tracker only care about packages in main?
[08:35] <lee__> nickrud i have the catylysy control and it tookaway a few of the features? plus this 60 mhz gives me a headache lol
[08:35] <astro76> GreySim, all packages are valid for bug reports
[08:35] <chetnick> i like gentoo
[08:35] <GreySim> astro76: Thanks.
[08:36] <chetnick> didnt have a chanse to use a lot
[08:36] <phrost> ehh gentoo is so so
[08:36] <phrost> takes way too long to build on production systems
[08:36] <nickrud> lee__: I don't use the drivers from ati, but from the repos. I have no clue about how to help you with that
[08:37] <Symmetria> heh phrost I only use gentoo on one of my workstations, heh, everything else on the network these days is solaris
[08:37] <Symmetria> other than this ubuntu box I just installed now
[08:38] <chetnick> is solaris difficult for patch and updates?
[08:38] <phrost> chetnick: never tried
[08:38] <WaltzingAlong> mkfs.ext3 kicks Symmetria for being impatient :D
[08:38] <Symmetria> heh it is kinda a large partition :p
[08:38] <Symmetria> heh chetnick rather take that off channel i think, kinda off topic for #ubuntu, but you can message me about it if you want
[08:38] <Symmetria> Writing inode tables:  3575/10776
[08:38] <chetnick> ok :)
[08:38] <Symmetria> heh
[08:39] <AnAnt> I am an arabic user, how can I change the virtual console direction to be right-to-left and to join letters ?
[08:39] <astro76> !arabic
[08:39] <nickrud> Can the vc's even do that?
[08:39] <ubotu> For the Arabic language or Saudi Arabia you are invited to join     #ubuntu-sa
[08:39] <lee__> lol, its ok.. i was trying 2 things..prevention of migraines from 60hz (yes that frequency triggers  them for real for me) and preventing screen dammage from an hour glass shspe
[08:39] <astro76> AnAnt, they might no in #ubuntu-sa ;)
[08:39] <astro76> *know
[08:40] <lee__> eh in other words...i was trying to kep my sanity lol
[08:41] <AnAnt> astro76: no one there
[08:41] <hume> hi, I am trying to set up software raid 1 with ubuntu 7.04 alternate CD. But where am I to get the option to configure raid? I do the disk partitioning by no option raid anywhere....?
[08:42] <riotkittie> >|
[08:42] <kaushal> hi
[08:42] <lee__> oh is x16 pciexpress a 64 bit thing or is thatstandard?
[08:42] <WaltzingAlong> where to set the default session? this machine has xfce, kde, gnome, and fluxbox but i would like kdm to default to kde (as in for users who log in for the first time)
[08:42] <kaushal> is there a specific document for vi editor in ubuntu
[08:42] <dbkim> hi all
[08:43] <astro76> AnAnt, eventually there will be ;)
[08:43] <AnAnt> k
[08:43] <AnAnt> thanks
[08:43] <dbkim> I'm just wondering that I can connect my pocketpc with ubuntu.
[08:43] <dbkim> is it possible?
[08:43] <lee__> tryin to see if i can run in 64 bit or not
[08:43] <Symmetria> kaushal you mean a vi tutorial?
[08:43] <kaushal> yeah
[08:43] <astro76> kaushal, vimtutor
[08:43] <davina> kaushal, type: man vi      in a terminal
[08:44] <astro76> kaushal, nice interactive tutorial
[08:44] <nickrud> oh, the dreaded man word ;)
[08:44] <chetnick> you are going to need few days
[08:44] <lee__> eh ok better ? what is linux? and why is it he rave ?
[08:44] <chetnick> maybe weeks
[08:44] <chetnick> to get around vi
[08:44] <chetnick> :)
[08:44] <dbkim> is there anyone has succeeded to connect pocket pc with ubuntu?
[08:44] <lee__> i am really confused
[08:44] <astro76> !linux | lee__
[08:44] <ubotu> lee__: Linux is the kernel (core) of the Ubuntu operating system. Many operating systems use Linux as kernel. For more information on Linux in general, visit http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux
[08:44] <dbkim> seems only pilots are supported by linux =(
[08:44] <GreySim> Does Launchpad email you when someone comments on your bugs?
[08:45] <bmt2> hello to all
[08:45] <Kyokuz> i saw a link somewhere that you can run ubuntu on your ipod
[08:45] <dbkim> I really want to use evolution with my pocket pc on ubuntu
[08:45] <lee__> i asm asking because i am wodering why theres no good software fore editing video like adobie 6.0
[08:45] <Jamesinator> lee__: Kino
[08:45] <WaltzingAlong> lee__: may need to be written
[08:45] <lee__> yea a nd i seen a hac version on a psp lol
[08:45] <GreySim> Kyokuz: I know you can run Linux on your iPod, if you mean flashing the iPod firmware directly. You can boot Ubuntu on a PC from your iPod as well.
[08:46] <GreySim> lee__: Pitivi is an upcoming app for that, though last I heard it wasn't ready yet.
[08:46] <bmt2> why when i try to install a new theme it says "file format invalid" ?
[08:46] <nickrud> the things people do with linux. You'd think they were trying to take over
[08:46] <bmt2> the file is a tar.gz
[08:46] <lee__> jamesintor where do i find it at?
[08:46] <GreySim> Kyokuz: But running Ubuntu directly on the iPod itself is not possible as far as I'm aware.
[08:46] <puff> I want to set up my screensaver to invoke a perl script and then display the text in that script.  I had this working in the past, when I dist-upgraded six months ago it broke.
[08:47] <davina> i have linux running on my ps3
[08:47] <puff> In the past it was using the star wars effects screen saver.
[08:47] <mrak> bmt2: try to unpack it ;)
[08:47] <bmt2> mrak: i did that but now i do not know what to pick when i try to ' instal theme '
[08:47] <lee__> it crashed hard corp that piyvi, i never want to see it so longas i live
[08:48] <lee__> but then..maybe that is because
[08:48] <GreySim> lee__: Like I said, it's not ready *yet*.
[08:48] <lee__> it wasnt ready to be dowown  loaded at the time
[08:48] <GreySim> lee__: It just might be something to watch, and hopefully a good release happens in the near future.
[08:48] <mrak> bmt2: i think .. in pack was some REAME or INSTALL ... it should b there
[08:49] <bmt2> mrak: let me check
[08:49] <Symmetria> heh *snore* mkfs.ext3 is still busy
[08:49] <lee__> greysim i'll give it  a second try..when its ready lol
[08:49] <lee__> I hope that it will have great wipes an faades and such
[08:50] <lee__> and dang  a good titler to
[08:50] <lee__> oops.. talking tv there for a sec
[08:51] <lee__> sdmits he was a vollunteer for kltv..widows has issues when it comes to editing and then putting it all to geather
[08:52] <bmt2> mrak: no readme files at all
[08:52] <jeff1212> where do i go to get mp3/dvd/mpg codecs?
[08:52] <astro76> !mp3
[08:52] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[08:52] <astro76> !dvd
[08:52] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[08:52] <lee__> thats something else i knoticed about linux.....its not a DRive hog
[08:53] <mrak> bmt2: !theme
[08:53] <mrak> !theme
[08:53] <ubotu> Find your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://art.gnome.org - http://www.kde-look.org - http://kubuntu-art.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy
[08:53] <bmt2> !theme
[08:53] <lee__> oh how do you defrg using linux?
[08:53] <bmt2> mrak: always wanted to know what that does
[08:54] <lee__> or do you defrag it?
[08:54] <xTheGoat121x> Correct me if I'm wrong... read/write NTFS support will be included in Gutsy, right?
[08:54] <astro76> lee__, linux filesystems do not suffer from fragmentation for the most part, you don't need to
[08:54] <Madpilot> lee__, ext3 doesn't need to be defragged
[08:54] <astro76> xTheGoat121x, correct
[08:54] <mrak> bmt2: i know now :)
[08:54] <lee__> hu what? a program that doesnt self destruct?
[08:55] <ethik> how do I get WINE running?
[08:55] <ethik> I already installed it apparently
[08:55] <lee__> please for give me while i take time to gather my thaughts
[08:55] <Madpilot> lee__, amazing, isn't it?
[08:55] <xTheGoat121x> astro76, do you know if it automatically mounts NTFS partitions?
[08:55] <lee__> ok waht aobut viruses? and eh fire wals?
[08:55] <lee__> and spye ware?
[08:56] <Kaybol> ethik: the easiest way to fully install wine is using winetools
[08:56] <Kaybol> it doesn't come in the package manager though
[08:56] <astro76> xTheGoat121x, the installer will add fixed drives to fstab, and usb/firewire drives would be automatically updated... I'm not sure how the feisty->gutsy upgrade will handle existing ntfs lines in fstab
[08:56] <Madpilot> lee__, none of those really need to be worried about
[08:56] <lee__> oh and the other thing I knoticed is when you tell the frozen program to quit it quits it just dont sit there
[08:56] <astro76> xTheGoat121x, *usb/firewire automatically mounted
[08:56] <mrak> astro76:  r u sure .. i dont think so
[08:56] <astro76> mrak, about?
[08:57] <mrak> astro76:  frangmentastion of linux fs
[08:57] <lee__> so waht your saying is taht linux sytems are more cost effective and when running right
[08:57] <astro76> mrak, positive
[08:57] <lee__> s-t-a-ble?
[08:57] <xTheGoat121x> astro76, ok.  The only thing that I'm worried about is constantly having my NTFS partition on my desktop
[08:57] <astro76> !fragmentation
[08:57] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about fragmentation - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[08:57] <mrak> astro76:  i think every fs are have b fragmented
[08:57] <lee__> so bascially the only truely uneek thing is  free source coding has
[08:58] <mrak> s/b/been
[08:58] <Kaybol> anybody got problems setting up their WIRELESS? I've finally managed to make it work under Ubuntu ^^
[08:58] <astro76> mrak, you think, but I know ;)
[08:58] <astro76> xTheGoat121x, I believe there's a way to remove the icon
[08:58] <xTheGoat121x> astro76, well that'll be nice, if/when I have to cross that bridge
[08:58] <Symmetria> wooot
[08:59] <Symmetria> mkfs.ext3 finally finished
[08:59] <Symmetria> /dev/sda3             1.3T  198M  1.3T   1% /home/diskspace
[08:59] <astro76> mrak, http://geekblog.oneandoneis2.org/index.php/2006/08/17/why_doesn_t_linux_need_defragmenting
[08:59] <mrak> astro76:  if u know ;) ... so why xfs has util for defragmatation ;)
[08:59] <Symmetria> thats better
[08:59] <GreySim> lee__: You can add an applet to your panel to force kill misbehaving programs if it turns out to be a common problem. I generally don't have to use it, but sometimes when using third-party packages I've had to use it.
[08:59] <riotkittie> 1.3T :o
[08:59] <astro76> mrak, yeah I'm not talking about xfs
[08:59] <Madpilot> lee__, even if you've got a program using up all your system resources and really screwing up, your desktop will basically never freeze. Linux is much, much better at system utilization than other OSes
[08:59] <mrak> astro76: so what u mean that linux fs ;)
[09:00] <astro76> mrak, xfs is a unix filesystem from before linux
[09:00] <lee__> grey sim the only one miss behaivng prgram taht I had was that one that is soon to be a video editing software inthe works
[09:00] <lee__> So Ihave noticed
[09:00] <lee__> my mother can use this
[09:00] <astro76> mrak, so like ext3, reiser, these are linux filesystems
[09:00] <ethik> alright
[09:00] <mrak> astro76: oh ok
[09:00] <ethik> so if WINE is installed
[09:00] <lee__> I wish I had known aobut this befor she spent 300 on softeare alone
[09:00] <ethik> I should be able to run a windows app?
[09:01] <riotkittie> ethik: possibly.
[09:01] <ethik> or do I need to run WINE before I run something?
[09:01] <riotkittie> you need to run wine, and install through wine
[09:01] <lee__> eh 198 on xp, 98 on antivirus software...um..eh I am thinking taht I am seeing a light here
[09:01] <astro76> ethik, run winecfg for wine settings
[09:02] <lee__> the light has blinked on
[09:02] <ethik> how do I do that?
[09:02] <ethik> IM a nix nab
[09:02] <richee> hi ubotu
[09:02] <astro76> lee__, :D
[09:02] <lee__> oh now if I can talk my om into converting
[09:02] <lee__> her business would be a lot better
[09:03] <lee__> and more cost effective
[09:03] <lee__> ok iam brign my live cd to hr house
[09:03] <astro76> ethik, open a terminal (applications > accessories > terminal) and type winecfg, or for graphical programs (winecfg is) you can hit alt+f2 and type it there
[09:03] <lee__> the only problem is..all the games she has
[09:03] <ramiky> School..=s
[09:03] <lee__> but then she wasnts the kids off her puter lol
[09:04] <ethik> oh wow
[09:04] <ethik> THats awesome
[09:04] <ethik> I thought I was going to have to type file paths
[09:04] <ramiky> Do you any good webpage creators to Ubuntu?
[09:04] <lee__> woas whats this with wine?
[09:04] <GreySim> lee__: That is a problem. WINE can play *some* games. Cedega can play more, but costs money for the effective version. ($15 for it + three months of updates, last time I looked)
[09:04] <astro76> ethik, winecfg like most programs on your system is in a directory included in your $PATH variable
[09:04] <astro76> lee__, what games?
[09:05] <lee__> eh she has games like the nancy drew mystery hour and such
[09:05] <GreySim> lee__: Personally, I keep a copy of Windows 2000 installed and dual boot for games, but I'm hoping I won't have to once WINE gets better.
[09:05] <lee__> but then she always believed her pc aught t o be for work ad such not for the kids to mess around with
[09:06] <lee__> ah I see
[09:06] <ethik> astro76: i'll pretend to understand that =)
[09:06] <grinnblade> hello all, I am currently attempting to install Ubuntu 7.04 on my other computer, and after a misburned CD i finally got it to boot to a new CD
[09:06] <lee__> iam freankly tired of having to fix the kids mess ups
[09:06] <astro76> lee__, maybe your mom would like dual-booting then, it would rigidly separate work and play ;)
[09:06] <grinnblade> only to find that the installer errors out when I attempt to run or install Ubuntu it says "invalid or corrupt kernel"
[09:07] <astro76> ethik, hehe, if you are curious in a terminal type: echo $PATH
[09:07] <lee__> I'll talk to her aobut it
[09:07] <lee__> can she transfr works type dopcuments?
[09:07] <Wicks> grinnblade: what version are you downloading, and what processor is in your machine?
[09:07] <GreySim> lee__: It would also mean that her $300 wouldn't be invalidated. She'd still be using XP and the anti-virus software. Just not all the time.
[09:07] <grinnblade> Intel Pentium D for the processor. 7.04.... x86, I think.
[09:07] <astro76> lee__, you'll be able to at least read from the windows partition out of the box, so you can copy over as needed
[09:07] <grinnblade> er
[09:08] <grinnblade> i386
[09:08] <grinnblade> At least I got the last two right >_>
[09:08] <ethik> oh, you know what I should have done? :|
[09:08] <ethik> I had Windows XP on here
[09:08] <lee__> oh coolio
[09:08] <ethik> and a seperate HDD
[09:08] <lee__> oh tahts where the term lindows comes from then?
[09:08] <lee__> or..am I wrong
[09:08] <Wicks> grinnblade: Cool - have you tried downloading the ISO from a different location?
[09:08] <GreySim> lee__: No, Lindows was a Linux distribution. It's now called Linspire.
[09:09] <lee__> I have linspire lol
[09:09] <sauvin> is it any good?
[09:09] <lee__> just..never loadedit
[09:09] <gordonjcp> sauvin: it was ok in its day
[09:09] <lee__> oh wate I have freespire
[09:09] <gordonjcp> sauvin: I set it up on a PC for my Mum to use
[09:09] <sauvin> What, precisely, is it?
[09:09] <gordonjcp> sauvin: tbh there wasn't a lot to recommend it
[09:09] <Grinnblade> Wicks: No. Should I attempt another mirror?
[09:09] <GreySim> lee__: Same thing, basically. Freespire is just the free version of Linspire.
[09:10] <lee__> hmm..
[09:10] <gordonjcp> sauvin: it's Debian with a crappy proprietary installer, everything running as root, and a bit of time and money spent on the UI
[09:10] <dn4> what is a good text based webrozer?
[09:10] <gordonjcp> dn4: links
[09:10] <riotkittie> elinks.
[09:10] <Grinnblade> Also, a corrupt kernel error couldn't possibly be caused by a bad burn, would it?
[09:10] <dn4> thx
[09:10] <GreySim> dn4: I keep hearing w3c recommended, I think.
[09:10] <gordonjcp> sauvin: Ubuntu has kind of replaced it now
[09:10] <lee__> I can't remeber the reason why I stoppped uisng it
[09:10] <gordonjcp> GreySim: it's a distinct possibility
[09:10] <lee__> oph no up grade
[09:10] <gordonjcp> lee__: it sucked?
[09:10] <sauvin> I'm using Ubuntu and don't see that it's much differnet from any other reasonably thought out distro.
[09:11] <lee__> no..Ijsut didnt undersnad it at the time\
[09:11] <gordonjcp> sauvin: Ubuntu has had a lot of time and money spent on the look and feel
[09:11] <drizzyt> can someone help me configure gproftpd
[09:11] <Wicks> Grinnblade: Yep, thats what I would do. Download both text based and LiveCD (handy to have both anyway)  Oxford Uni Comp Sci is a good mirror
[09:11] <lee__> Oh I remebr now
[09:11] <WaltzingAlong> sauvin: ok and?
[09:12] <lee__> I couldnt figure out how to configure my video graphics card on it lol
[09:12] <Evanlec> question: is there a way to "uninstall" a .deb package i downloaded and installed (not from repo) ?
[09:12] <Kudak> guys, i redefined my resolution to a higher one by editing xlog.conf but the screen is like out of propurtion, its like the desktop is bigger than my screen and i need to move mouse to get parts, how do i make the resolution fixed to the monitor ?
[09:12] <tom__> hey guys i need to back up 2 hdd's onto another one before i install gutsy, how can i do it and make sure everything is there afterwards?
[09:12] <erichj> Evanlec, sudo apt-get remove --purge <package>
[09:12] <Evanlec> erichj, thanks, will the package show up in synaptic?
[09:12] <erichj> yes
[09:12] <GreySim> Evanlec: That will work even though you didn't use apt-get to install it.
[09:12] <WaltzingAlong> Evanlec: sudo aptitude purge <package>
[09:12] <lee__> eh in the add remove programs ther is a back up utility floating in there som wehre
[09:13] <Evanlec> which is it, apt-get or aptitude?
[09:13] <GreySim> lee__: Yes, though I don't know how well it works.
[09:13] <astro76> Evanlec, either
[09:13] <WaltzingAlong> Evanlec: you can use either. i prefer aptitude
[09:13] <riotkittie> Evanlec: either is fine
[09:13] <lee__> yeah, me niehter
[09:13] <drizzyt> can someone help me configure a proftpd server
[09:13] <Evanlec> o k
[09:13] <GreySim> lee__: Believe there are several, in fact.
[09:13] <erichj> i prefer apt-get
[09:13] <erichj> dpkg works as well
[09:13] <lee__> say this is bring back a lot of programming memores form when I had my c-64 lol
[09:13] <Kudak> guys, my desktop is bigger than my monitor, how do i make the desktop fixed on monitor size ?
[09:14] <WaltzingAlong> Kudak: virtual desktop size?
[09:14] <Kudak> without reducing resolution ofcorse
[09:14] <Kudak> WaltzingAlong: i changed it to 1280x1024
[09:14] <lee__> erg i had that issue too at one time..eh the othe reason why I h it the panic button and loaded the ati drivers
[09:14] <chetnick> drizzyt
[09:14] <chetnick> http://www.howtoforge.com/proftpd_mysql_virtual_hosting_p2
[09:14] <chetnick> there si configuration file
[09:14] <scrotles> what would be funnier.  While plugged into an extention cord, dropping my CRT monitor off the garage, or hitting the screen with a hammer?
[09:14] <scrotles> hi
[09:14] <scrotles> what would be funnier.  While plugged into an extention cord, dropping my CRT monitor off the garage, or hitting the screen with a hammer?
[09:15] <Grinnblade> Wicks: Thank you for your help. I'm gonna head to bed now and let these two isos download. Hopefully it works this time, heh.
[09:15] <lee__> guarage
[09:15] <heguru> !ot
[09:15] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[09:15] <lee__> but make sure there are no pees and pets
[09:15] <Wicks> Grinnblade: No worries, Good luck!
[09:15] <lee__> and a 25 foot radius for flying galss
[09:15] <lee__> lol
[09:15] <dn4> ok I just enabled nvidia glx for my computer and lost my gui, how do I get that back?
[09:16] <lee__> one thing is for sure I cna not believe how simple code coretion can be i nthis
[09:16] <lee__> and to be alowed into the kernal
[09:16] <lee__> no wonder why windows is so miffed
[09:17] <Kudak> how do i set my monitor to be at a certain resolution? (not screen res,  monitor res)
[09:17] <riotkittie> miffed?
[09:17] <lee__> waht I can not beilieve is that linux found everything
[09:17] <ejot_> if i want to reconfigure ubuntu, what command do i run? like the one you get when installing?
[09:18] <lee__> I thaught for sure I would have 8 channel suround sound
[09:18] <dn4> Kudak: /etc/X11/xorg.cfg
[09:18] <dn4> nano that up
[09:18] <SuperQ> ejot_: that's a tough one
[09:18] <erichj> ejot_, what do you want to configure?
[09:18] <astro76> ejot_, what do you need to reconfigure specifically?
[09:18] <SuperQ> ejot_: there really isn't a "reconfigure everything"
[09:18] <lee__> oh how can I check if Iam in 32 or 24 bit color mode
[09:18] <Evanlec> recompile kernel? ;p
[09:18] <ejot_> what i can think of now, the keymap :)
[09:18] <drizzyt> has anyone had experience with gproftpd?
[09:18] <lee__> it kinda looks like 24
[09:19] <Evanlec> thats a reconfigure everything sorta...but its a lot more fun ;)
[09:19] <SuperQ> lee__: there really isn't a 32bit mode
[09:19] <lee__> oh
[09:19] <lee__> ooohh
[09:19] <SuperQ> lee__: X only supports 24bit with alpha channels
[09:19] <SuperQ> afaik
[09:19] <lee__> one of them windows trics eh
[09:19] <dave__> Is there anything here with knowledge of hostapd? Trying to make an access point of my router.
[09:19] <Kudak> dn4: what do i need to change there in the monitor section ?
[09:19] <Evanlec> 32bit mode would be nice esp for wine ... certain games want your desktop in 32bpp
[09:19] <SuperQ> Evanlec: it should emulate it I think
[09:20] <bmt2> exit
[09:20] <notdarkyet_> what commands do i use to do an AAlib conversion of a jpg file
[09:20] <ethik> OW
[09:20] <ethik> Migrane
[09:20] <lee__> eh ok then how do i get it to use the 128 megs of rma instead of 32 lol
[09:20] <ethik> Im gonna stab WINE
[09:20] <riotkittie> cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf | grep DefaultDepth
[09:20] <Evanlec> SuperQ, well maybe, but i know i had to patch the wine source and build it manually to get rid of the 32bpp problem
[09:20] <SuperQ> Evanlec: huh
[09:20] <SuperQ> Evanlec: I guess I havn't played with that much
[09:20] <notdarkyet_> what commands do i use to do an AAlib conversion of a jpg file
[09:20] <notdarkyet_> ??
[09:20] <notdarkyet_> anyone know
[09:21] <dn4> Does anyone know the generic display driver for ubuntu?
[09:21] <qBert^> notdarkyet_, probably mencoder
[09:21] <Kudak> how do i config my monitor ???
[09:21] <SuperQ> notdarkyet_: apt-get install libaa-bin
[09:21] <SuperQ> notdarkyet_: I think
[09:21] <Evanlec> dn4, generic display driver for linux is VESA, there is no specific to ubuntu
[09:21] <qBert^> notdarkyet_, or convert (imagemagick)
[09:22] <lee__> eh for real...how do i step it up from 32 megs to 128?
[09:22] <Evanlec> lee__, what ever do you mean
[09:22] <lee__> the card its self has that much lol
[09:23] <Evanlec> your video card?
[09:23] <notdarkyet_> superQ aalib is installed and i can get movies working fine, just dont know how to play with images
[09:23] <lee__> evanlec , my card is 128 megs yet its reading 32 megs
[09:23] <Evanlec> lee__, how do you know that?
[09:23] <Evanlec> and what card is it
[09:24] <ethik> g'night everyone
[09:24] <erichj> night
[09:24] <lee__> the card is sell has 128 megs of ddr ram...becasue  when I had windows its said tht it was 128 and I checked the card and it is 128 megs
[09:24] <lee__> its an ati x300
[09:24] <Kudak> how can i fit my desktop to my monitor? i need to scroll with mouse cuz desktop too big
[09:25] <erichj> aahhh so integrated
[09:25] <Ademan> for ShipIt i have the option of getting 10 CDs, am i required at all to give them away? I mean i can think of 3 or so people who i'd give the cds to, but, certainly not 8, i trust there wouldn't be any legal problems, but what's really "expected" of me if i were to request 10 cds?
[09:25] <annaimkonki> powerpc [mac] : need help.. can i install ubuntu on an oLd mac computer>> specs: PowerMac 6500 series
[09:25] <Ademan> certainly not 10*
[09:25] <lee__> pci express x16
[09:25] <Evanlec> lee__, and how do you know that its only using 32mb in ubuntu?
[09:25] <SuperQ> annaimkonki: yes
[09:25] <lee__> eh thats what my catylyst is saying
[09:25] <Ademan> !ppc | annaimkonki
[09:25] <lee__> but i have no weay ovf verifying it
[09:26] <annaimkonki> SuperQ: i read the wiki about install and it says Oldworld mac are not supported
[09:26] <lee__> the vids arent as shard as they once were
[09:26] <SuperQ> annaimkonki: ohhh
[09:26] <annaimkonki> Ademan: ppc... yes
[09:26] <Javid^> how do I get rid of a package that keeps eternally wanting to upgrade to the exact same version?
[09:26] <Javid^> ethik, do "winecfg"
[09:26] <Javid^> erm.
[09:26] <Javid^> how do I get rid of a package that keeps eternally wanting to upgrade to the exact same version?
[09:26] <Javid^> x.x ok, ignore me, c/p issues
[09:26] <Evanlec> lee__, sharp? that has to do with your video codecs not your video ram
[09:26] <Ademan> annaimkonki: i kinda expected ubotu to have something useful to say, like a list of supported processors
[09:26] <lee__> how do i truely check?
[09:26] <lee__> ah
[09:26] <SuperQ> annaimkonki: that's a beige box one right?
[09:27] <lee__> how do i check to see what  my trure running ram is?
[09:27] <heguru> lee__: ati x300 has 32meg built-in actually. it can *borrow* memory from system RAM if needed to make total ram upto 128M
[09:27] <annaimkonki> the specs of the ppc says 250 mhz machine speed
[09:27] <Evanlec> lee__, u can try running lspci and see what it detects
[09:27] <lee__> its also saying i have a clockspeed of 329
[09:27] <Evanlec> lee__, there ya go, heguru has your answer
[09:28] <lee__> how do i ecute that and where?
[09:28] <erichj> and you can set the limit to how much ram it borrows in your bios
[09:28] <annaimkonki> SuperQ: yes its kinda white..  certainly not the ones on circuit city
[09:28] <Evanlec> lee__, from terminal type lspci
[09:28] <heguru> lee__: read specifications at ati.com
[09:28] <ubotu> annaimkonki: PowerPC.  Formerly used by Apple for the Macintosh line of computers. Variants are now used in popular gaming consoles. PPC was a fully supported Ubuntu architecture up to and including edgy. It is now a community port, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PowerPCFAQ
[09:28] <heguru> HyperMemory
[09:28] <heguru> Technology that builds on the bandwidth of PCI Express, PC system memory andATI software to deliver performance for desktop and mobile graphics using loweramounts of local graphics memory.
[09:28] <annaimkonki> looks like an old computer SuperQ...
[09:29] <lee__> erg ok give me a few to digest this lol
[09:29] <Ademan> WOW ubotu took its sweet time to respond...
[09:29] <annaimkonki> ubotu: thanks will take a look at that wiki
[09:29] <drizzyt> does anyone have experience with gproftpd, or setting up an ftp server throught NAT?
[09:29] <Javid^> how do I get rid of a package that keeps eternally wanting to upgrade to the exact same version?
[09:29] <Javid^> I already did an aptitude hold on all of them
[09:29] <heguru> lee__: x300 (infact all x series) use HyperMemory Technology, both desktop and notebook versions
[09:29] <lee__> it pulled mre then the video lol just a sec
[09:30] <lee__> yeppers
[09:30] <SuperQ> annaimkonki: http://www.mac-pro.com/s.nl/it.A/id.106/.f?sc=2&category=64
[09:30] <SuperQ> annaimkonki: one of those?
[09:30] <erichj> yeah, it shows you everything on your pci bus
[09:30] <Evanlec> Javid^, you can remove the repository ...
[09:30] <erichj> drizzyt, what exactly do you need to know?
[09:30] <Javid^> The package is in the main repos. That wouldn't be wise
[09:31] <annaimkonki> SuperQ: yes.. which OS or distros is best for old macs or pcs?
[09:31] <Evanlec> Javid^, which package is it, are u on feisty?
[09:31] <Javid^> yes
[09:31] <Javid^> and it's firefox
[09:31] <Evanlec> ooh
[09:31] <annaimkonki> just want it for internet/word processing... maybe some more if it can handle it
[09:31] <Evanlec> thats a rather important one i spose
[09:31] <sauvin> A distro for PPC-based mac might be problematic.
[09:31] <Javid^> There's a PPC ubuntu feisty
[09:31] <Evanlec> Javid^, when u run synaptic does it say anything is broken?
[09:31] <Javid^> nope
[09:32] <Evanlec> Javid^, did u do a apt-get autoremove ?
[09:32] <SuperQ> annaimkonki: Yellow Dog might be a good option
[09:32] <lee__> its an ati  hmm its anx300se lol
[09:32] <SuperQ> annaimkonki: it used to be the good speciatly OS
[09:32] <Javid^> Evanlec, just did it now
[09:32] <Evanlec> Javid^, that probly wont fix it, i had the same problem once but it was a 3rd party repo so i just removed the repo
[09:32] <Javid^> the package in question IS an equivs-made dummy package I made just to get apt to shut the hell up
[09:33] <lee__> ATI Technologies Inc RV370 [Radeon X300SE]
[09:33] <Javid^> I guess they just aren't that great
[09:33] <lee__> eh thats one of things i am getting
[09:33] <Javid^> !info equivs
[09:33] <ubotu> equivs: Circumvent Debian package dependencies. In component universe, is extra. Version 2.0.7 (feisty), package size 18 kB, installed size 128 kB
[09:34] <lee__> the otherline says exact same thing only
[09:34] <lee__> PCIE
[09:34] <annaimkonki> thanks SuperQ
[09:34] <Evanlec> !info preload
[09:34] <ubotu> preload: adaptive readahead daemon. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.4-3 (feisty), package size 33 kB, installed size 172 kB
[09:34] <lee__> nothinbg about ram or any thing
[09:34] <Evanlec> anyone ever used preload?
[09:34] <phpcurious> hi ... i was trying to follow steps to Windows DualBoot with Ubuntu ... and when I am in partitioning part of installing ubuntu, it says manual partitioning but there are no choices to partition ... ? what did i overlook here?
[09:34] <CyberMad> how do i know what is speed of my RAM ? there are PC 2700, 3200, etc
[09:35] <Evanlec> CyberMad, only real way i think is through your system BIOS, check your ram clock speed...otherwise you need to know what chips you bought
[09:35] <Javid^> there really needs to just be a "not interested" option on updates
[09:35] <heguru> lee__: X300SE should be 64MB, 128MB or 256MB
[09:35] <Evanlec> Javid^, lol, agreed
[09:35] <tom__> Javid^: but they are quite important
[09:35] <heguru> lee__: if you run fireglcontrol you can check the detected video RAM
[09:36] <lee__> its not iding any of that
[09:36] <annaimkonki> SuperQ: what about xubuntu.. isn't it for older pcs??
[09:36] <Javid^> the cool thing about having my own computer is I get to decide what's important to put on it
[09:36] <CyberMad> Evanlec how to calculate from RAM Clock speed to get PCxxxx?
[09:36] <lee__> is that in the box to?
[09:36] <Javid^> is it utterly critical that I endlessly update firefox with the exact same deb? XD
[09:36] <SuperQ> annaimkonki: it is, but I don't know how much PPC support there is
[09:36] <Javid^> I think not.
[09:36] <phpcurious> if there is any other way to manually create partitions in ubuntu ...
[09:36] <m0m> bye, bye !!!
[09:36] <SuperQ> annaimkonki: Ubuntu has kinda drifted away from PPC support :(
[09:37] <tom__> Javid^: but the guys at ubuntu want to have a secure distro so they want people to update
[09:37] <lee__> that comand is not found
[09:37] <Evanlec> CyberMad, im not exactly sure..check here http://www.lyberty.com/encyc/articles/tech/RAM.html
[09:37] <lee__> flgrx is not found
[09:37] <Javid^> tom__, do you understand the problem I am having at all?
[09:37] <Javid^> because if you did you would know why such a feature would be useful
[09:38] <tom__> Javid^: i was just generally commenting on the update notifications.
[09:38] <Javid^> yeah, and 99% of the time you're right
[09:38] <Evanlec> i think such a feature would not only be useful but would add safety, look at all the people that got borked from the latest gutsy updates
[09:38] <Javid^> but the inflexibility of the program causes problems when someone screws up
[09:38] <tom__> Evanlec: if you are running a beta distro you are asking to get borked
[09:38] <lee__> eh ok i downloafded it lol
[09:39] <Scourged> I have a problem.. I removed ubuntu and now i cant access vista anymore.. can sombody help me plz_
[09:39] <Evanlec> tom__, well okay, thats true i spose....
[09:39] <tom__> Evanlec: :)
[09:39] <lee__> but not sure if it installed or not
[09:39] <nrdb> Hi can I use the program 'webcam' to get pictures on my local drive without going though a ftp server ?
[09:39] <lee__> eh what was that comand again?
[09:40] <cultavix> good morning
[09:40] <cultavix> ;)
[09:40] <protocol1> is there a reason why my linux changes my windows vista time?
[09:40] <Scourged> I have a problem.. I removed ubuntu and now i cant access vista anymore.. can sombody help me plz
[09:40] <gordonjcp> nrdb: have a look in the man page
[09:40] <Kudak> in Screen Resolution the highest refresh rate i have is 53Mhz but my monitor supports up to 75Mhz, how can i change that ?
[09:40] <tom__> protocol1: are you sure it's linux that's doing it?
[09:40] <protocol1> I adjusted a setting before to fix that
[09:40] <gordonjcp> nrdb: there seems to be an  option "archive" to do that
[09:40] <Javid^> your biggest problem is that you have a vista infestation, here's the number of a reliable exterminator
[09:40] <protocol1> it was in linux
[09:41] <Javid^> Scourged, boot into the windows recovery console from your cd and do "fixmbr"
[09:41] <coldsteal> hello
[09:41] <nrdb> gordonjcp: it says to use ~/.webcamrc but then doesn't explain all the setup options.
[09:41] <coldsteal> i have a quick questio for u guys
[09:41] <protocol1> tom_, yes it was
[09:41] <protocol1> tom__, yup
[09:41] <coldsteal> does vfat.org resolve?
[09:41] <tom__> protocol1: how do you know?
[09:41] <gordonjcp> nrdb: the man page tells you what the setup options are
[09:42] <protocol1> tom__, it done it with previous installations
[09:42] <SuperQ> coldsteal: vfat.org has address <IP_ADDRESS>
[09:42] <CyberMad> thanks Evanlec
[09:42] <nrdb> gordonjcp: not the one I have. :(
[09:42] <tom__> protocol1: it's pretty strange that ubuntu does anything at all with your vista inst.
[09:42] <Scourged> Javid, from my vista cd ,questionmark,
[09:42] <protocol1> tom__, upgraded to gutsy and its back again
[09:42] <Evanlec> CyberMad, np
[09:42] <lee__> wwwwoooah i got a second thingy
[09:42] <coldsteal> SuperQ: yes but in a browser does it work?
[09:42] <gordonjcp> nrdb: yes, the one you have, assuming you're on feisty
[09:42] <Javid> Scourged, yes exactly
[09:42] <Javid> scourged, or an XP CD
[09:42] <Scourged> ill try... thanks
[09:43] <protocol1> tom__, there was something I adjusted in a config and it fixed that
[09:43] <protocol1> going to google it up again
[09:43] <tom__> protocol1: no idea man sorry
[09:43] <Scourged> the problem is that i tryed to install win95 ones and it totaly destryed my vista
[09:44] <Scourged> but ubuntu may not have don that
[09:44] <protocol1> tom__, I think I just need to get linux to use local time
[09:44] <doktoreas> hello everybody
[09:44] <Javid> ...win95?
[09:44] <lee__> hegure its truely saying its running at 32megs
[09:44] <protocol1> but I am trying to find that setting
[09:44] <doktoreas> is there a html/javascript development framework for ubuntu?
[09:44] <vega-> how do i find out if ALC888 audio chip is supported in the kernel? thinking of buying a mb with that integrated
[09:45] <Scourged> yes... i was gonna try it on a partition but it messed up vistas
[09:45] <vega-> grepping kernel sources gives something but i'm not really sure
[09:45] <Evanlec> vega-, i have the ALC 882 chip and had flawless support out of the box
[09:46] <Scourged> ok ill try to recover it... and if it doesnt work ill come back here.. hehe
[09:46] <Scourged> cya later maybe.....
[09:49] <nrdb> gordonjcp: I have gotten somewhere with this, but now I am getting a weird error message, I have a line "local transfer /tmp/uploading.jpeg => /tmp/webcam.jpeg" "open filename: No such file or directory" :(
[09:50] <gordonjcp> nrdb: no idea, I don't use webcam
[09:50] <jodi2> hello guys
[09:50] <gordonjcp> nrdb: if you're still about in roughly half an hour when I get to work, I'll see if I can help
[09:50] <jodi2> could someadvise me if there is a txt browser on ubuntu
[09:50] <gordonjcp> nrdb: in the mean time, keep at it
[09:50] <gordonjcp> nrdb: sounds like it either can't write to /tmp, or isn't writing /tmp/upload.jpg
[09:51] <Evanlec> !info lynx | jodi2
[09:51] <ubotu> jodi2: lynx: Text-mode WWW Browser. In component main, is optional. Version 2.8.5-2ubuntu4 (feisty), package size 1088 kB, installed size 4584 kB
[09:51] <riotkittie> jodi2: i dont think theres one preinstalled but you can find elinks links links2 lynx [so on and so forth]  in the repos
[09:52] <Evanlec> riotkittie, just out of curiosity which of those do you prefer?
[09:52] <Evanlec> i found lynx to be....abysmal
[09:52] <jodi2> thanx you guys allways save me
[09:53] <riotkittie> Evanlec: i cant really say i have a preference. i've only used elinks since returning to linux, and my experience with any others is so far gone it can't be relevant
[09:53] <Evanlec> riotkittie, ah ok, thot there might be one a little nicer than lynx
[09:53] <Evanlec> riotkittie, esp cuz i use mutt as my primary mailreader, it pipes to lynx
[09:54] <Kudak> anyone here read the book Hacking Linux Revelaed ?
[09:55] <jodi2> anybody installed squirrelmail
[09:55] <chris00_297247> see my naked ex on www.nackte-ex.de.gg   <my revange!
[09:56] <Evanlec> jodi2, isnt that a webmail reader?
[09:56] <jodi2> evanlec it is
[09:57] <Evanlec> then you wouldnt install it, u just use your web rbwoser
[09:57] <Evanlec> *browser
[09:57] <nrdb> I am using the gspca module to access my webcam, but it is very dark, I have been unable to find any program that will control the brightness, even spcagui doesn't affect it.  is there a way to control the brightness ?  maybe argument to the kernel module.
[09:57] <jodi2> i need to install it so my partners can get there mail via a web interface
[09:58] <ultraviolet_> hi, i had ubuntu-server 6.06 installed in my comp, and i just installed gutsy in other partition. now that it works fine, i want to remove the other partition and resize the gutsy one for the whole disk. i tried to do that with gparted, but the server partition seems to be blocked, and it recommends i do it manually. how do i do that?
[09:58] <jodi2> were running postfix/courier mysql
[09:59] <Arafangion> Hey, why might I be running out of ptys?
[09:59] <Evanlec> jodi2, oh you want to serve it ... beyond my expertise
[09:59] <Arafangion> I can't load a new terminal.
[09:59] <nrdb> ultraviolet_: I wouldn't try that, you could mount the other partition as /home or something like that.
[10:01] <karmelek> know somebody how to install extcalendar?
[10:01] <ultraviolet_> nrdb, i will be able to use it with gutsy data?
[10:01] <Evanlec> ultraviolet_, yes
[10:02] <longneck> how would i get the distribution upgrde to look at the cd for the upgrade?
[10:02] <ultraviolet_> ok, and how do i do that? sorry for the stupid question, but i'm really beginning with linux
[10:03] <dave__> Is there anything here with knowledge of hostapd? Trying to make an access point of my router.
[10:03] <longneck> wow! there is realy good suport in here
[10:04] <IronFlint> ??
[10:04] <nrdb> ultraviolet_: 1) backup anything you want on the partition. 2) copy you current /home partition into the root of the partition 3) create an entry in you /etc/fstab 4) reboot.
[10:04] <Arafangion> IronFlint: He's being sarcastic.
[10:05] <IronFlint> i noticed
[10:05] <Javid> is there a specific distro of ubuntu for tablet PCs?
[10:05] <IronFlint> lol
[10:05] <longneck> ara:: if your talking about me, I am not a (HE)
[10:05] <nrdb> ultraviolet_: do you know how to mount partitions ?
[10:05] <ultraviolet_> nrdb, thanks
[10:05] <longneck> I am a SHE
[10:05] <omnius> how do i mount my hda when using the liveCD?
[10:05] <ultraviolet_> nrdb, not manually. i used ubuntu installation CD to create the other ones
[10:05] <Arafangion> longneck: Sorry, if you're so sensitive, why don't you suggest a gender-neutral pronoun?
[10:06] <Arafangion> longneck: One that is gramatically correct.
[10:06] <longneck> woman can have long necks to thank you!
[10:06] <mrak> longneck: wow ... i see first woman/miss who use linux
[10:06] <Arafangion> longneck: Forgive me for not noticing your long neck on irc.
[10:07] <longneck> you can tell your a man (dick ) is poping out of ya
[10:07] <Arafangion> !ops
[10:07] <ubotu> Help! Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti, mneptok or Pici
[10:07] <mrak> omnius: mount /dev/<your dev> /where/u/want
[10:07] <nrdb> ultraviolet_: ok step by step, have you got access to the computer now ? are you using for this communication ?
[10:07] <ultraviolet_> nrdb, yes
[10:08] <omnius> Hey guys!  Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti, mneptok or Pici
[10:10] <rob> sigh
[10:10] <rob> he left
[10:10] <RHLinuxGUY> Hello everyone, my question is as follows:  I can't mix audio from multiple applications, with the exception of a couple. (Flash 9 & mplayer)  If I try to run audio on one app, any others don't work.  How do I fix this?
[10:10] <RHLinuxGUY> I'm using the latest version of Ubuntu
[10:10] <nrdb> ultraviolet_: ok, is there plenty of spare space on the partition ?
[10:10] <mrak> omnius: i wrote that
[10:11] <max_bizzle> if we didnt have Radia Perlman and ada lovelace we'd be in shit street
[10:11] <ultraviolet_> RHLinuxGUY, there's another channel for developing versions #ubuntu+1
[10:11] <ultraviolet_> nrdb, 15Gb
[10:11] <RHLinuxGUY> ultraviolet_: o no wait, I should have said latest stable version of Ubuntu. 7.04
[10:11] <mrak> omnius: sudo mount /dev/hda /media/(or somethin)
[10:12] <scoobydoo28139> Can I get some help upgrading?
[10:12] <Puppet><PHONE_NUMBER>qwertzuiopasdfghjklyxcvbnm
[10:12] <tonyyarusso> scoobydoo28139: Not until you change your attitude and learn how to behave in Ubuntu channels.
[10:12] <Puppet> any1 from exYugoslavia?
[10:12] <ultraviolet_> RHLinuxGUY, sorry.
[10:12] <nrdb> ultraviolet_: that should be enough.  how many users are setup for that computer ?
[10:13] <scoobydoo28139> tonyyarusso:?
[10:13] <RHLinuxGUY> ultraviolet_: np
[10:13] <opexoc> How can I check if my samba server is running?
[10:13] <tonyyarusso> scoobydoo28139: Yes, I know who you are/were.  Surprised?
[10:13] <ultraviolet_> nrdb, two: me and a root account
[10:13] <jodi2> how do i unstall a program i installed and decided i dont want
[10:13] <scoobydoo28139> tonyyarusso:???
[10:14] <Garthemus> jodi2:  start synaptics, find the program, right click -> uninstall
[10:14] <ultraviolet_> jodi2, sudo apt-get remove nameoftheprogram
[10:14] <Garthemus> or that too
[10:14] <jodi2> thanks
[10:14] <Garthemus> :)
[10:14] <Arafangion> scoobydoo28139: For crying out loud, stop pretending, "shuttle".
[10:14] <nrdb> ultraviolet_: fyi, root isn't a seperate account.    ok,  cd to the /home directory
[10:14] <mrak> opexoc: try to login :)
[10:14] <omnius> right what I'm trying to do is delete a users folder in the home directory
[10:14] <scoobydoo28139> I have a shuttle
[10:14] <omnius> i need to be root
[10:14] <scoobydoo28139> xpc
[10:14] <ultraviolet_> nrdb, ok
[10:14] <max_bizzle> opexoc -  ps aux |grep smbd
[10:15] <omnius> i keep getting " you dont have permission"
[10:15] <mrak> jodi2: aptitude purge <name_of_package>
[10:15] <scoobydoo28139> I am a registered user
[10:15] <nrdb> ultraviolet_: do a 'ls' you should see one directory ?
[10:15] <Arafangion> scoobydoo28139: So?
[10:15] <opexoc> max_bizzle: why smbd if when I want to start samba then I execute /etc/init.d/samba start?
[10:15] <omnius> so I want to mount the file system so i can delete anything
[10:15] <ultraviolet_> nrdb, yes, my name on it
[10:16] <mrak> omnius: for test of running samba ... i think no ;)
[10:16] <scoobydoo28139> what are you talking about? you lost me....
[10:16] <mrak> omnius: sorry another nick ;)
[10:16] <Arafangion> Pity the ops don't ban people for just being stupid.
[10:16] <max_bizzle> opexoc - because thats the name of the samba daemon process
[10:16] <nrdb> ultraviolet_: is the partition you want to use mounted ?
[10:16] <opexoc> max_bizzle: wierd, thx :)
[10:17] <max_bizzle> opexoc - have you done any research on running samba?
[10:17] <riotkittie> we're talking about your being obnoxious, and then coming back on new handles
[10:17] <scoobydoo28139> I am trying to find out about upgrades, anyone upi for a chalange?
[10:17] <ultraviolet_> nrdb, i can see it in gparted, it's hda2 and hda6 (linux swap). what is it, by the way?
[10:18] <Evanlec> in xchat what button do i press to automatically insert the last nickname i spoke to??
[10:18] <opexoc> max_bizzle: what do you mean? I have check this command ps -aux | grep smbd and it throws that the server is running.
[10:18] <Damjan> Are the new kde python updates necessary ?
[10:18] <opexoc> max_bizzle: how can I check which deamons are running now on my ubuntu?
[10:19] <CyberMad> how do you check memory speed from BIOS ?
[10:19] <max_bizzle> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpSamba
[10:19] <Madpilot> Evanlec, I don't think XChat has a function like that
 do you know how to upgrade to 7.10? or do i need to goto the testers room?
[10:19] <Damjan> CyberMad use mem86 in grub
[10:19] <Evanlec> Madpilot, no function like that? do u know what im referring to, Konversation has it...
[10:20] <mrak> opexoc: try to telnet lcoalhost 139 or 445
[10:20] <nrdb> ultraviolet_: swap is the partition used for the Linux virtual memory, its ok.  I presume that hda1 has the install you want to keep ?
[10:20] <Madpilot> scoobydoo28139, #ubuntu+1 for all upgrade questions, please, including how to upgrade.
[10:20] <Madpilot> Evanlec, never used Konv, but I've never seen a feature like that in any IRC app
[10:20] <scoobydoo28139> madpilot: ok thanks
[10:20] <CyberMad> Damjan ok
[10:20] <ultraviolet_> nrdb, i also presume that : ) but I'm willing to take risks
[10:21] <opexoc> mrak: I know how check if samba is running. Now I want to know which deamons are running
[10:21] <max_bizzle> scoobydoo28139, http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/linux/upgrade-ubuntu-from-feisty-to-gutsy/
[10:21] <Evanlec> Madpilot, in Konversation if you were speaking with someone, all you had to do was press tab and their nick would appear and you could just type your msg
[10:21] <Damjan> CyberMad let it run one hour, maybe or more time, depends how much ram do you have
[10:21] <mrak> opexoc: thats way how to check it
[10:21] <Madpilot> Evanlec, most irc apps can do tab-complete - just type the first three letters or so of the nick.
[10:22] <mrak> opexoc: if is listening on this port u suer its runnning
[10:22] <Evanlec> Madpilot, yes i know thats what i do now, but like if im only talking to one person, i shouldnt have to type in those letters over and over
[10:22] <nrdb> ultraviolet_: we can find out, if you type the command 'cat /proc/mounts' near the top you should see a line like '/dev/hda1 / ext3 ....'
[10:22] <Damjan> why the my computer is where slow now, while I'm updating ubuntu?
[10:23] <mrak> opexoc: /usr/sbin/nmbd -D; /usr/sbin/smbd -D name of deamons
[10:24] <opexoc> mrak: Firstly, this commands throw nothing. Secondly, I want to know about every deamon in my system.
[10:24] <Arafangion> opexoc: ps aux | less
[10:24] <m1lkc0w> I have some issues with the aspell packages on Gutsy Gibbon. An automatic update failed and ever since, post-installation of packages complains about issues with aspell. Reinstalling aspell via Synaptic didn't work either (same error)
[10:25] <opexoc> Arafangion: but there are many other process I want to know about only deamons.
[10:25] <riotkittie> m1lkc0w: #ubuntu+1 for gutsy support, please
[10:25] <m1lkc0w> riotkittie: Thanks
[10:25] <Damjan> Does nvidia geforce 4400 will work better in Gutsy?
[10:25] <mrak> opexoc: i think ... u need firstly know something about linux ;)
[10:25] <ultraviolet_> nrdb, my that might help: at gparted it finds: hda1 ext3 20Gb | hda3 ext3 15Gb (boot flagged) |  hda2 extended 1Gb | hda6 linux-swap 684Mb | hda5 linux-swap 684Mb
[10:26] <opexoc> mrak: why? where is a problem?
[10:26] <mrak> opexoc: ps if cmd for check wich processes are running ...
[10:27] <ArmedKing> Damjan: Best way to find out is just try.
[10:28] <opexoc> mrak: yes running, but I know about deamons which are running, not every processes which are running.
[10:28] <ultraviolet_> nrdb, cat output is too long, i don't i can paste it here. is there any particular information you need?
[10:28] <n0000b> does someone can tell me how to write on two lines in open office calc please ? :((
[10:28] <annaimkonki> i installed ubuntu on my pc easily... how do i install it on mac??
[10:28] <opexoc> mrak: yes running, but I want to know about deamons which are running, not every processes which are running.
[10:28] <annaimkonki> ppc
[10:28] <mrak> opexoc: some processes for these are deamons .. for the most part of these end d like proftpd smbd etc
[10:28] <Bo^Dick> mention a good way to ftp in ubuntu?
[10:28] <opexoc> mrak: I know that. But I would like only see deamons.
[10:29] <ultraviolet_> annaimkonki, i have it running fine in a mac, and i installed it the same way i did with my pc. are you having any troubles?
[10:29] <Damjan> ArmedKing, I don't want to risk, I will wait until 20 October or what was the date, for the final release
[10:30] <nrdb> ultraviolet_: no hda2 !  is the partition you want to use visible at /media/hda3 ?
[10:30] <annaimkonki> ultraviolet_: i have  ol os... mac os 8.6
[10:30] <annaimkonki> i don't know how 2 boot it from disc
[10:30] <Damjan> ArmedKing, I will use the beta another year, for now I need full working OS
[10:30] <Bo^Dick> hope gftp is graphics
[10:30] <mrak> opexoc: i think itsnt any way how to check that ... if u know what u find ... find it but if u dont .... im sorry
[10:30] <annaimkonki> ow do u go 2 bios on macs???
[10:31] <nrdb> ultraviolet_: I am trying to get a feel for your setup, so any commands don't do any damage.
[10:31] <Arafangion> mrak: It's a matter of definition, really. To me, a "daemon" is a "very long-lived program".
[10:31] <ultraviolet_> nrdb, in media i have only cdrom and floppy
[10:31] <phpcurious> anybody knows gparted? is it advisable to use gparted to partition Win XP ?
[10:32] <mrak> Arafangion: and how u know after boot ? ;)
[10:32] <ultraviolet_> nrdb, ok here's cat output
[10:32] <ultraviolet_> rootfs / rootfs rw 0 0
[10:32] <ultraviolet_> none /sys sysfs rw,nosuid,nodev,noexec 0 0
[10:32] <ultraviolet_> none /proc proc rw,nosuid,nodev,noexec 0 0
[10:32] <ultraviolet_> udev /dev tmpfs rw 0 0
[10:32] <ultraviolet_> fusectl /sys/fs/fuse/connections fusectl rw 0 0
[10:32] <ultraviolet_> /dev/disk/by-uuid/33738998-9894-423a-8b6c-c4144c24bac7 / ext3 rw,data=ordered 0 0
[10:32] <ultraviolet_> /dev/disk/by-uuid/33738998-9894-423a-8b6c-c4144c24bac7 /dev/.static/dev ext3 rw,data=ordered 0 0
[10:32] <nrdb> !pastebin
[10:32] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[10:32] <Damjan> Does a restart or logging out of a session is necessary, wnen an update is done, if it ask?
[10:32] <ultraviolet_> tmpfs /var/run tmpfs rw,nosuid,nodev,noexec 0 0
[10:32] <ultraviolet_> tmpfs /var/lock tmpfs rw,nosuid,nodev,noexec 0 0
[10:32] <ultraviolet_> tmpfs /lib/modules/2.6.22-12-generic/volatile tmpfs rw 0 0
[10:32] <ultraviolet_> tmpfs /dev/shm tmpfs rw 0 0
[10:32] <ultraviolet_> devpts /dev/pts devpts rw 0 0
[10:32] <ultraviolet_> tmpfs /var/run tmpfs rw,nosuid,nodev,noexec 0 0
[10:32] <ultraviolet_> tmpfs /var/lock tmpfs rw,nosuid,nodev,noexec 0 0
[10:32] <mrak> Arafangion: every processes run the same time long
[10:32] <ultraviolet_> securityfs /sys/kernel/security securityfs rw 0 0
[10:33] <Madpilot> ubotu, pastebin | ultraviolet_
[10:33] <ubotu> ultraviolet_: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[10:33] <Arafangion> mrak: The concept of a "service" is not the same as in windows.
[10:33] <x_> how we can run Beryl automatically in start up ?!
[10:34] <ultraviolet_> nrdb ok, just saw the pastebin stuff, but don't know how to use it, just a sec
[10:34] <nrdb> ultraviolet_: can you put it in the pastebin see above.
[10:34] <nrdb> ultraviolet_: cut/paste it in via firefox and give me the url it gives you.
[10:34] <x_> anyone can help me about Beryl ?!?!?!?!?!!
[10:35] <Bo^Dick> in gftp, can i view my local directories in one of the window?
[10:35] <mrak> Arafangion: i know that .. i tried to show u .. its not true every time ;)
[10:35] <Arafangion> mrak: I must've missed it.
[10:36] <Arafangion> mrak: Was it before the flood?
[10:36] <mrak> yes
[10:36] <mrak> ;)
[10:36] <mrak> mrak> Arafangion: and how u know after boot ? ;)
[10:36] <ultraviolet_> nrdb, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/40131/
[10:36] <Madpilot> ubotu, beryl | x_
[10:36] <ubotu> x_: beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. Help in #ubuntu-effects
[10:36] <Arafangion> mrak: Everything is started after boot, by definition. ;)
[10:37] <mrak> Arafangion: does a matter
[10:37] <mrak> ;)
[10:37] <Arafangion> mrak: does a matter?
[10:37] <mrak> Arafangion: my english isnt very well
[10:37] <mrak> sorry
[10:37] <mrak> ;)
[10:38] <Arafangion> mrak: Heh, it's "it", not "a", as you are not referring to any general item, but a particular concept, and it's "good", not "very well", because your english doesn't get sick. :)
[10:38] <ultraviolet_> annaimkonki, you downloaded the Live CD image? which version?
[10:38] <Arafangion> mrak: I've yet to *successfully* learn a second language, so what can I say? :(
[10:39] <nrdb> ultraviolet_: ok got that !
[10:39] <frojnd> !ndiswapper
[10:39] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ndiswapper - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[10:39] <annaimkonki> ultraviolet_: yes i did... power pc the latest one fiesty
[10:40] <frojnd> !ndiswrapper
[10:40] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[10:40] <nrdb> ultraviolet_: can you please do the same with /etc/mtab ?
[10:41] <piao> i found ubuntu 7.10 released
[10:42] <Damjan> what do u mean?
[10:43] <annaimkonki> are there any other alternatives to install linux if it cant boot from cd???
[10:43] <maikeru> piao: the beta you mean?
[10:43] <ultraviolet_> nrdb, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/40132/
[10:43] <piao> when i boot i found grub list non contain dev...
[10:43] <piao> cat /etc/issue  it is ubuntu 7.10
[10:44] <opexoc> Arafangion: so you say that there is any possibility to check if some process is deamon or ordinary process? because there isn't any differance beetwen them?
[10:45] <Arafangion> opexoc: Pretty much, though arguably, you could say that a daemon is a process that was started directly by init.
[10:45] <Arafangion> opexoc: And is therefore, the set of processes whose direct parent is init.
[10:45] <ultraviolet_> annaimkonki, i don't think so. but maybe that may help you: http://forums.macrumors.com/archive/index.php/t-148617.html
[10:46] <nrdb> ultraviolet_: ah! hda3 is your main partition.    so we want to mount hda1.   "cd /tmp" then "mkdir hda1"  then "mount -t auto /dev/hda1 /tmp/hda1"
[10:46] <heaven> hy  ppl
[10:47] <nrdb> ultraviolet_: you might need to use "sudo mount -t auto /dev/hda1 /tmp/hda1"
[10:47] <ultraviolet_> nrdb, just did it
[10:47] <dave__> Is there anything here with knowledge of hostapd? Trying to make an access point of my router.
[10:47] <ultraviolet_> nrdb, it's only that?
[10:48] <opexoc> Arafangion: ok. I don't know that that deamon is a process always started by init. If so how can we check what is a parent of a particular process?
[10:48] <nrdb> ultraviolet_: no!  we need to copy the home directory and change you setup slightly.  if you look a /tmp/hda1 you should see the partition you want to use.
[10:49] <heaven> i got a problem i reinstalled ubuntu and in "computer" i have the functional floppy the cd rom "filesistem" partition and another unusable floppy that has 40 GB can anyone tell me at instalation what exactly should i do for: 100 GB storage space , 40 GB linux partition where ubuntu goes installed and 10 GB swap space please PM me i could really use some help
[10:49] <Damjan> Is there a good program for making telephone calls with fax/modem
[10:49] <ultraviolet_> nrdb, ok
[10:49] <annaimkonki> i have 2 ethernet on my main PC running Ubuntu proudly, my router has only one eternet connection, and it is connected to my main pc... can i jump the connection to the other computer w/the 2nd ethernet port on my pc...
[10:50] <astro76> annaimkonki, yes, but, you really should just get a switch
[10:51] <annaimkonki> astro76: a switch??why... how can this be done...
[10:52] <nrdb> ultraviolet_: ok now copy the home directory. "cd /tmp/hda1" then "cp -r  /home/* /tmp/hda1"
[10:52] <astro76> astro76, an ethernet switch (like a hub)... because then the 2nd pc is double-NATed... by buying one, a 5 port switch is cheap
[10:52] <astro76> annaimkonki, ^^
[10:52] <gokiwork> Does anyone have any idea why the first time a new user logs in on my system, they are forced to change password? Also, their passwords revert to the first password set when the user is created (at random). In order for my imap daemon to actually work with the user, I need to log back in as the user, and then I am forced to change the password again, at which point it works again for a little while
[10:53] <annaimkonki> astro76: i don't have one now but i need to see if my opther computer is capable of ethernet connection
[10:53] <astro76> annaimkonki, then each pc and the router hook into the switch
[10:53] <gokiwork> It's like the passwords have some weird 10 minute expiry time on them, but I set no expiry up in the kde user settings tool thing
[10:54] <heaven> i got a problem i reinstalled ubuntu and in "computer" i have the functional floppy the cd rom "filesistem" partition and another unusable floppy that has 40 GB can anyone tell me at instalation what exactly should i do for: 100 GB storage space , 40 GB linux partition where ubuntu goes installed and 10 GB swap space please PM me i could really use some help
[10:54] <ultraviolet_> nrdb, sorry but copy to where?
[10:54] <carlos_> hgvg6623
[10:54] <annaimkonki> astro76: my main pc which is connected has two network plugs in it.... can i just plug my 2nd pc to to 2nd ethernet plug for internet...
[10:55] <Arafangion> opexoc: Not entirely sure, right off the top of my head.  ps probably has options for that. See man ps.
[10:56] <nrdb> ultraviolet_: the "cp -r /home/* /tmp/hda1" will copy it the drive mounted at /tmp/hda1 which should be the partition you want to use as your /home directory.
[10:57] <opexoc> Arafangion: ok. I'll check. thx.
[10:57] <frojnd> When I try to compile ralink there is somekind of a error... I don't know what to do to fix this: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/40134/  Can someone help*
[10:57] <ultraviolet_> nrdb, sorry, i got it wrong. just did it
[10:59] <nrdb> ultraviolet_: if you now do a "ls -lA /tmp/hda1/<name>" you should see all your files.  make sure there are the directories starting with a '.' dot.
[11:00] <nrdb> ultraviolet_: opps! that directory is /tmp/hda1/<name>
[11:00] <ultraviolet_> nrdb, everything is up there
[11:02] <DerangedDingo> hey everyone, I need help sort of fast... how can I get my Stylus C86 printing!? my HP printer before this one worked great until it refused to turn on one day.. what's up? I don't wanna boot windows and have to install the driver.. call me lazy..
[11:02] <nrdb> ultraviolet_: ok! now we change things.  "cd /" then rename the home directory "sudo mv /home /home_old" then "sudo mkdir /home".
[11:04] <ultraviolet_> nrdb, should i do this from root or from tmp/hda1?
[11:04] <nrdb> ultraviolet_: from root thats why I put in the "cd /"
[11:05] <usr13> DerangedDingo, Load the  gutenprint driver for it and that should do it.
[11:06] <tech0007> hi everyone
[11:08] <Bo^Dick> any alsa gurus in here?
[11:08] <ultraviolet_> nrdb, just did a stupid thing. i closed terminal window, and now it can't open anymore, cause it doesn't find it
[11:09] <Bo^Dick> i'm testing my sound with GNUSound but when i try to change the bitdepth and samplerate to anything attractive the system restarts
[11:10] <Bo^Dick> i've got 1.0.14
[11:10] <Bo^Dick> that's pretty fresh i've been told
[11:10] <ultraviolet_> nrdb, can i access it through nautilus?
[11:10] <nrdb> ultraviolet_: try <alt> and <ctrl> then <f1> then login, and to return to the gui <alt> and <ctrl> then <F7>
[11:10] <kubitz> Hello there I tried to install Ubuntu on a very old computer and it wouldn't even boot up into the live CD so I tried Debian Etch instead, which works fine. I have acouple of questions really. Firstly what type of hardware is likely to create the installation problem and more boradly what dod I lose out on by going with a basic Debian? I'm trying to gauge whether it's worth buying a slightly newer computer and trying again to install
[11:10] <kubitz> Ubuntu?
[11:10] <nrdb> ultraviolet_: i will try again for that message
[11:11] <kubitz> boradly=broadly
[11:11] <kubitz> dod=did
[11:11] <kubitz> sorry about that
[11:11] <Bo^Dick> kubitz: what kind of problems?
[11:11] <nrdb> ultraviolet_: try [alt]  and [ctrl]  then [F1]  and login in, use [alt]  and [ctrl]  then [F7]  to return to the gui.
[11:12] <kubitz> I don't know really the Ubuntu CD just wouldn't load
[11:12] <Bo^Dick> kubitz: black screen?
[11:12] <kubitz> When it got so far the screen went blank
[11:12] <kubitz> yeah I giess it must be the monitor
[11:12] <Bo^Dick> kubitz: i had to start the live cd in safe graphics mode
[11:12] <Mostar> anyone know how i can scan program for my tv tuner?
[11:12] <usr13> kubitz, What processor do you have?
[11:13] <kubitz> 400
[11:13] <Mostar> whats the comand
[11:13] <kubitz> slightly over clocked
[11:13] <kubitz> I gorget what to
[11:13] <Arafangion> kubitz: Debian is less proactive with automatic hardware detection, plus the configuration and bootscripts are nearly completely different.
[11:13] <ultraviolet_> nrdb, nothing happens
[11:13] <Arafangion> kubitz: I suggest reducing that clock, if only for testing.
[11:13] <usr13> kubitz, How much memory?
[11:13] <tech0007> kubitz...tried the alternate CD?
[11:13] <kubitz> 128Meg
[11:13] <Arafangion> kubitz: Also, what graphics card does it have/
[11:13] <kubitz> I know it's disgraceful
[11:13] <pupi120290> i cant change the volume in the gnome volume control... cant even mute it... can anyone help me?
[11:13] <kubitz> I should chuck it really
[11:14] <kubitz> I think it's an nvidia
[11:14] <Arafangion> kubitz: 128MB is fine, but I suggest not using Ubuntu (At least, use XUbuntu if you do use an Ubuntu-based distro)
[11:14] <kubitz> I meant to look
[11:14] <nrdb> ultraviolet_: the [alt]  and [ctrl]  then [F1]  didn't change the screen ?
[11:14] <ultraviolet_> nrdb, but i could also login as root and do all the renaming and cutting in nautilus, isn't it?
[11:14] <kubitz> So why does Debian Etch run fine with Gnome
[11:14] <ultraviolet_> nrdb, not at all
[11:14] <kubitz> Is it more efficient?
[11:15] <Arafangion> kubitz: Gnome is fine, but it will use much more memory than xfce, and in your case, memory is at a particular premium.
[11:15] <nrdb> ultraviolet_: I don't think you are allowed to login as root.
[11:15] <pupi120290> i cant change the volume in the gnome volume control... cant even mute it... can anyone help me?
[11:15] <usr13> Arafangion is right, you'll more than likely be better off not overcloclocking, because if it runs unstable, it will only be a hinderance.  And besides that, you won't see any performance increase between 500 and 400
[11:15] <usr13> MHz
[11:16] <ultraviolet_> nrdb, i am, i created a root account, and change the settings, so i can login to gnome as root
[11:16] <ultraviolet_> nrdb, i'll try it, if i don't come back anymore, i just wanted to say thanks
 thanks for your advice - to behonest I'm new to Linux but I've used computers for years so I had no trouble with Debian's more traditional install rountine. It actually looks like I can install most of the same stuff as if I ran Ubuntu anyway - is that a fair statement?
[11:16] <usr13> kubitz, But to tell you the truth, 400MHz is about bottom end, (for running X).
[11:16] <nrdb> ultraviolet_: ok, you could try a 'switch user'
 well I'm actually quite happy now Debian runs a lot faster than Windows 2K on here
[11:17] <nrdb> ultraviolet_: you can reverse the 'mv' with the LiveCD.
[11:17] <usr13> kubitz, I would suggest a faster machine.
[11:17] <Arafangion> kubitz: Personally, if you already have Debian on it, I'd keep it, Ubuntu (imho) primarily wins over Debian in areas of automatically setting stuff up in a nice way, including hardware.
[11:18] <usr13> kubitz, Debian is fine.  If it works stick with it.
 so I would get more form a more modern installation like Ubuntu? Or are you just saying this machine is too old for anytihng now?
[11:19] <Muelli> I need packages with debug symbols for network-manager{,-gnome} but network-manager-dbg only exists for dapper
[11:19] <nrdb> ultraviolet_: hi
[11:19] <usr13> Well, yes, if you were to install Ubuntu, you'd have slightly newer versions of most packages, that's the only difference.
[11:19] <ultraviolet_> nrdb, worked
 I actually like Debian - there's something solid about it
[11:19] <trpr> kubitz: what are the specs? ive run x on p2-350 but it was w/ windowmaker, not gnome / kde. performance was acceptable
[11:19] <kubitz> Perhaps I'm just old fashioned myself :)
[11:20] <kubitz> trpr: KDE is really crap on here
[11:20] <usr13>  kubitz You ARE old fashioned.  [400MHz]    :)
[11:20] <ultraviolet_> nrdb, now i opened terminal. what do i do again?
[11:20] <kubitz> Gnome is ok for speed but i tihnk KDE is too heavy
[11:20] <nrdb> ultraviolet_: ok! first lets check the copy to make sure its worked ok.  first 'umount /tmp/hda1'
[11:20] <usr13> kubitz, Yes, KDE might be a little too resource hungry for your system.
[11:21] <kubitz> I have arange of computers from 2.8Gig to 400Meg I just don't like throwing them away :)
[11:21] <usr13> kubitz, What are you doing with the 2.8GHz machine?
[11:21] <trpr> kubitz: anyways, that was a debian install
[11:21] <kubitz> It's running Fedora and Windows 2000
[11:22] <kubitz> I don't like XP much
[11:22] <ultraviolet_> nrdb, "umont: command not found", the umount command path is probably changed now, so it doesn't find it...
[11:22] <nrdb> ultraviolet_: umount
[11:22] <Scourged> who helped me with just now? somone staring with "J"....
 I'm trying out lots of distros at the moment
[11:23] <ultraviolet_> nrdb, that's what i put, just mistyped now
[11:23] <usr13> kubitz, I like Linux.  But XP is better than 2K IMO, but either one is like a boat anchor compared to a modern Linux system.
[11:23] <kubitz> I was hoping one would stand out but they're all good in different ways
[11:23] <nrdb> ultraviolet_: try /bin/umount /tmp/hda1
[11:23] <ultraviolet_> nrdb, worked
[11:24] <usr13> kubitz, Choosing the right distro is all about finding the packages and package management that suits you.
[11:24] <nrdb> ultraviolet_: ah!  the path doesn't seem to be setup. ok we will work around that.
[11:24] <oshiii-_^> oshi-
[11:25] <kubitz> I'm going to try Studio 64 - that media version of Debian soon usr13
[11:25] <nrdb> ultraviolet_: now try "/bin/mount -t ext3 /dev/hda1 /home"
[11:25] <usr13> kubitz, Yes, they are all good.  You are right.  The difference is in package management.
[11:25] <ultraviolet_> nrdb, ok
[11:25] <nrdb> ultraviolet_: now "cd /home/[login name] "
[11:26] <usr13> kubitz, Ubuntu / Debian has the most advanced and easiest [to use]  package management system.
[11:26] <ultraviolet_> ok
 yeah after you try a few you realise how different they are. Debian is very good for apt - it seems to always get the dependencies dead right.
[11:26] <nrdb> ultraviolet_: is everything there !
[11:26] <ultraviolet_> nrdb, yup
[11:26] <kubitz> I was least happy with Mandriva - it reminded me too much of XP :)
[11:27] <usr13> kubitz, I have a friend that has just installed Mandriva.  In fact, he has yet to set up repositories.
[11:27] <usr13> I'll be interested to see how he does with it.
[11:28] <nrdb> ultraviolet_: good now to make it automatic.  "nano /etc/fstab"  and add a line at the bottom "/dev/hda1   /home   ext3   defaults   0 0"
[11:28] <pupi120290> hello^^ i cant change the volume in the gnome volume control... cant even mute it... can anyone help me?
[11:28] <kubitz> I wasn't at all happy with the package management in Mandriva.
[11:28] <usr13> pupi120290, Try the headphone control.
[11:28] <usr13> sometimes the contorlls get switched.
[11:28] <kubitz> It looks easier at first but it doesn't seem to work perfectly in my experience
[11:29] <ultraviolet_> nrdb, done.
[11:29] <pupi120290> usr:13 headphone does function
[11:29] <pupi120290> pcm too
[11:29] <pupi120290> b ut master channel not
[11:29] <usr13> kubitz, Doesn't resolve all dependencies, right?
[11:29] <kubitz> I haven't played musch with Fedora yeat cos mu teenage son has taken a liking to it and hogs that box.
[11:29] <Raiders32> I'm using Feisty.  Where can I find the C header files that match the running kernel?
[11:29] <nrdb> ultraviolet_: [ctrl]  O (as in orange) to save
[11:29] <usr13> kubitz, Did you use KDE or Gnome ?
[11:29] <pupi120290> usr13: so how can i switch controlls in right order
 some things I installed in Mandriva disn't work reliably
[11:29] <ultraviolet_> nrdb, saved
 I was using KDE with Mandriva it sets that up by default
[11:30] <tech0007> hi...i cant play Alienarena2007, it exits w/ error Received signal 11, exiting... while loading maps..pls help..am i on the right channel
[11:30] <nrdb> ultraviolet_: [ctrl]  X to exit
[11:30] <ultraviolet_> nrdb, ok
[11:30] <kubitz> For an inexperienced user like me Mandriva seems harder to modify thatn other distros
[11:30] <usr13> pupi120290,  Right-Click, choose Open Volume Control
[11:31] <nrdb> ok do you see what that is going to do ?
[11:31] <kubitz> If you like the defaults it's great but Debian is easier to change
[11:31] <pupi120290> usr13: and then?
[11:31] <kubitz> From a newbies position anyway
[11:31] <usr13> Try headphone control.
[11:31] <StFS> Hello. I was wondering whether anyone knew if there will be a 2.6.23 kernel package anywhere available for ubuntu feisty or whether there will be some easy to follow howto? I believe there are some patches that are applied to the ubuntu kernels right?
[11:31] <pupi120290> yeah... it does change the volume... but can i make the master channel change the volume?
[11:31] <usr13> kubitz, Ubnutu is the most user friendly.
[11:32] <Raiders32> I'm using Feisty.  Where can I find the C header files that match the running kernel?
[11:32] <nrdb> ultraviolet_: do you see what that is going to do.
[11:32] <kubitz> I'll habe to get a new box and try Ubuntu again usr13
[11:32] <usr13> pupi120290, I don't know.
[11:32] <tech0007> hi...i cant play Alienarena2007, it exits w/ error Received signal 11, exiting... while loading maps..pls help.
[11:33] <kubitz> I suppose I can use most of the Debian stuff I'm learning with Ubuntu anyway from what I read
[11:33] <pupi120290> usr13: bnut thanks... now i know a bit more... bout my prob..
[11:33] <ultraviolet_> nrdb, i supposed i moved everything i had from hda3 to hda1, was that the question?
[11:33] <usr13> kubitz, Yes, Ubuntu is just a pretty version of Debian.
[11:34] <usr13> kubitz, Ubuntu is just Debian-made-easy
[11:34] <ultraviolet_> nrdb, now i need to umount hda3 and resize hda1, isn't it?
[11:34] <kubitz> usr13 that's what I really wanted to hear. I've decided I want to learn Debian anyway. It seems to be very community orientated which I like
[11:35] <usr13> kubitz, And you can get your Debian system as cutting edge as Ubuntu, you just have to juggle the repositories a bit.
[11:35] <nrdb> ultraviolet_: if you reset now, you should be able to log in.  if every thing goes ok you will need to clean the /home directory. of all the extra directory left over. (i.e. everything but the [user name]  directory).   Got to go for dinner now will check back latter to see if things are OK.
[11:35] <Arafangion> usr13: I wouldn't recommend it.
[11:36] <Arafangion> usr13: I prefer to keep it /very/ stable, and older software tends to be less memory hungry, anyway.
[11:36] <ultraviolet_> nrdb, ok. thanks a lot
[11:36] <Arafangion> usr13: (Simply because it does a little bit less)
[11:36] <tsurc>  I'm having a few problems with iptables. want to be able to force and trafic from the "pupils group" to use the port dansguardians listening on. But I just can't see the wood for the trees, anyone any ideas? easily understandable tutorials/howtos?
[11:36] <ultraviolet_> nrdb, really. have a nice dinner
[11:36] <usr13> Arafangion is right, you can get into trouble doing that - can wreck the system and have a hard time fixing it again.
[11:36] <nrdb> ultraviolet_: see you latter.
[11:36] <kubitz> usr13 yeah I've already got the newsest version of flash, but looking at what Arafangion says yes I did shy away from the latest Java RE. It looks too heavy for this box
[11:37] <kubitz> And most sites work with 1.4
[11:37] <WaltzingAlong> tom_d: ok
[11:37] <gorganalmighty> quick question to everyone: How safe is it to remove checkfs.sh from the start-up sequence?  I know how to do it manually, but I don't want to remove it if its really important.
[11:37] <tom_d> that is, choosing ubuntu over just debian, where i'd probably have to do more work to get things the way i want them
[11:37] <DarthShrine> How do I install a PCF font? I've done it the same way as TTF fonts but it isn't being installed..
[11:38] <Arafangion> gorganalmighty: How important is your data to you?
[11:38] <kubitz> I have to go to the pub now - well I don't have to but you know what I mean. Seeya when I have Ubuntu!
[11:38] <cjae> is there no more ddwrt channel on freenode
[11:39] <gorganalmighty> Arangion: thats not very helpful
[11:39] <cjae> I guess that would be a contradiction hey
[11:39] <Arafangion> gorganalmighty: On the contrary, its' an extremely helpful response.
[11:39] <usr13> kubitz, THat could be true (about latest Java RE), don't know for sure, but Java RE can bog down even a high end system
[11:40] <Arafangion> usr13: He's gone, and Java's bog is primarily in just liking buckets of RAM.
[11:40] <gorganalmighty> Arafangion: obviously my data is important, but how important is checkfs in protecting my data?
[11:40] <cherva> i have a problem with supercaramba the themes are not updating, but when i click on update from the right mouse menu the theme updates once
[11:40] <opexoc> When I want to mounting a samba share that:
[11:41] <opexoc> opexoc@opexoc:~$ smbmount //myserver/myshare ~/mnt
[11:41] <opexoc> 8488: Connection to myserver failed
[11:41] <opexoc> SMB connection failed
[11:41] <opexoc> Why I have get this?
[11:41] <Moosky> gorganalmighty: in case of a crash and loss of nodes checkfs helps you restore the lost data due to that crash.
[11:41] <gorganalmighty> Arafangion: For example, I never used to run scandisk every time I started windows
[11:41] <usr13> Arafangion, Yea, I don't know for sure, but the wife plays Java games a lot and leaves it on for days at a time and it seems to take a toll, but probably just hogging up memory
[11:42] <scag> I've installed apache. Which file do I need to edit, to change the location of the webpages?
[11:42] <Arafangion> gorganalmighty: scandisk is an entirely different beast.
[11:42] <Moosky> gorganalmighty: but why would you want to remove it anyhow? it only runs like after a crash or once every 32 start ups or so...
[11:42] <usr13> scag, httpd.conf
[11:42] <Arafangion> Moosky: That once-every-30 starts is a PITA, imho.
[11:42] <opexoc> maybe I should put something different than myserver in that line?
[11:43] <gorganalmighty> If its more important than scandisk then Ill leave it in there, thanks guys
[11:43] <Moosky> Arafangion: pita? the bread? hehe what do you mean?
[11:43] <Arafangion> Moosky: Pain-In-The-A***
[11:43] <gorganalmighty> Moosky: It still takes about 30 sec every boot before it decides not to do anything
[11:43] <Moosky> haha that's a new one to me :)
[11:44] <surface> for msn connection with gaim, is it possible to appear offline and still talk?
[11:44] <Arafangion> surface: Not if the other person is /also/ offline, and I'm not sure.
[11:45] <gorganalmighty> Moosky: btw, I have big FAT32 drives, checkfs seems to spend its time on those
[11:45] <Arafangion> surface: gaim is a lowest-common-denominator, and msn is a bit unusual in that regard.
[11:45] <Arafangion> surface: You might be happier with amsn.
[11:45] <surface> Arafangion, i stay invisible but can't talk with gaim
[11:45] <myconid> isnt using MSN from Linux a bit ... evil?
[11:46] <gorganalmighty> myconid: lol
[11:46] <Arafangion> myconid: A neccessary evil, if you happen to like your existing friends.
[11:46] <osfameron> Arafangion: heh
[11:46] <myconid> Friends dont let friends use MSN.
[11:46] <hhp2k> Hey everyone! I have the protocol on ubuntu to allow winSCP on my Windows machine to connect to my Ubuntu machine. I'd like to know if, with this setup, I can execute a terminal command from ubuntu that sends a file over my network to my Windows machine - is that possible, do I need any extra software? It would be incredibly convenient.
[11:47] <Moosky> gorganalmighty: how do you come to that conclusion? heh e
[11:47] <scag> How do I restart apache?
[11:47] <gorganalmighty> myconid: At the risk of starting a flame war, MSN is about the only good thing thats come out of M$
[11:47] <myconid> hhp2k: What kind of crazy talk is that?
[11:47] <myconid> scag, /etc/init.d/apache restart
[11:47] <myconid> (possibly apache2)
[11:47] <blaa_> hey guys, does anyone know how/know where i can read how to install gnome 2.20 in ubuntu? is it even possible at all?
[11:47] <Arafangion> gorganalmighty: I disagree.
[11:48] <myconid> gorganalmighty, arguably the linda and bill gates foundation has done *some* good as well.
[11:48] <myconid> blaa_: install 7.10?
[11:48] <scag> myconid: Thanks :)
[11:48] <Arafangion> gorganalmighty: imho, MS Office is the only good thing that has come out of MS, it's just too damn expensive.
[11:48] <osfameron> gorganalmighty: that's silly.  Their office productivity tools are nice if you like that sort of thing, and there is a *lot* of interesting research coming out of C#, Linq, powershell etc.
[11:48] <hhp2k> myconid: It can't be done?
[11:48] <Arafangion> myconid: And that has nothing to do with MS, btw. ;)
[11:48] <Moosky> blaa_: apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[11:48] <Arafangion> osfameron: Such as?
[11:48] <myconid> Arafangion, I disagree.
[11:48] <hhp2k> Arafangion: MS Office 2007 is pretty.
[11:48] <myconid> hhp2k, i just found your question bizzarely phrased.
[11:49] <blaa_> myconid: how do i upgrade to gutsy?
[11:49] <gorganalmighty> h dear look what I started....
[11:49] <osfameron> Arafangion: well, I named Linq and powershell.
[11:49] <myconid> My turds are pretty.. doesnt make them useful except to remove crap.
[11:49] <myconid> blaa_, update-manager -d
[11:49] <hhp2k> myconid: Might have been awkwardly phrased :P
[11:49] <Moosky> osfameron: amen to Linq .. i rly like it tbh
[11:49] <hhp2k> myconid: But you get it, right?
[11:49] <mrak> mno tak stahnout
[11:49] <gorganalmighty> myconid: your turds ARE crap, arent they?
[11:49] <osfameron> LINQ is like functional programming for the masses.  I want it for Perl...
[11:49] <myconid> gorganalmighty, sometimes they have pieces of corn.
[11:49] <myconid> hhp2k, im not exactly sure what you are getting at.
[11:50] <gorganalmighty> eww
[11:50] <myconid> hhp2k, if you have winscp (which uses ssh) .. why not just use somehting like putty to run commands?
[11:50] <myconid> or cron them.
[11:50] <blaa_> oh you guys are clever :) thanks
[11:50] <Moosky> Hmm this  is turning into yet another flame thing against ms .. ye we know that everyone got opinions about some stuff, let's get back to QnA's
[11:50] <osfameron> amen
[11:50] <hhp2k> myconid: I don't know anything about any of this, that's why I'm asking :P What's putty?
[11:50] <myconid> hhp2k, what are you trying to do?
[11:50] <gorganalmighty> oh well I got real world work to do... :(
[11:51] <osfameron> hhp2k: putty is an ssh client for windows.  Probably the least hateful one there is :-)
[11:51] <Moosky> hhp2k: putty is a nice ssh program and MUCH more (www.putty.nl)
[11:51] <hhp2k> myconid: I can send and receive files on my Windows machine, but I can't send or receive files from my ubuntu machine, because I don't think I have (or know of for that matter) any software like winSCP on my ubuntu machine that will load up a file manager and let me transfer files.
[11:52] <myconid> hhp2k, transfer files to what?
[11:52] <hhp2k> between each machine.
[11:52] <myconid> hhp2k, samba?
[11:52] <osfameron> hhp2k: your ubuntu console has "scp"
[11:52] <thoreauputic> hhp2k: connect to server
[11:52] <myconid> osfameron, but windows doesnt.
[11:52] <Moosky> hhp2k: how about filezilla and connect using SSH
[11:52] <thoreauputic> hhp2k: you can use ftp or sftp/ssh
[11:52] <myconid> people stop unless you just read what he said.
[11:53] <scag> In apache, does the .htaccess file go to the same location where the webpages are saved?
[11:53] <rake> yep
[11:53] <myconid> hhp2k, you could install samba on the ubuntu machine (which lets windows connect to it via normal windowsy ways.. \\servername)..
[11:53] <osfameron> myconid: "I can't send or receive files from my ubuntu machine" - that's why I mentioned scp
[11:53] <osfameron> but yeah, samba is probabl the thing
[11:53] <myconid> hhp2k, or install XAMPP on the Windows machine to get ftp ON the windows machine.. and ftp files to the Windowsmachine.
[11:53] <scag> Do I need to install anything else in addition to apache for .htaccess to work? I'm trying to redirect the page but it won't work
[11:53] <thoreauputic> prople, Ubuntu does sftp with nautilus out of the box...
[11:53] <thoreauputic> *people
[11:54] <hhp2k> thoreauputic: I've tried that before and it's never worked.. I need to work on that some more, because it is the most native way to do this, I agree.
[11:54] <myconid> scag: do you have htaccess overwrite allow enabled?
[11:54] <thoreauputic> hhp2k: it works fine here
[11:54] <scag> myconid: I'm using the default configuration. So I don't know.
[11:54] <hhp2k> thoreauputic: I know, it's definitely something I'm doing wrong, I just need to figure out what that is :P
[11:54] <myconid> whats your .htaccess look like?
[11:54] <frojnd> hello there
[11:54] <frojnd> I'm in serious problem...
[11:55] <myconid> hhp2k, just install it, add a user (smbpasswd) and you shjould be good to go :)
[11:55] <thoreauputic> hhp2k: try typing ssh://you@server  in nautilus ( ctrl+L to get a location field)
[11:55] <myconid> frojnd, arent we all?
[11:55] <thoreauputic> hhp2k: or dftp:// ftp://
[11:55] <myconid> thoreauputic, stop.  his windows machine doesnt have a 'ssh' server.
[11:55] <frojnd> i made: sudo dpkg -P network-manager network-manger-gnome
[11:55] <frojnd> And now i can't connect to the internet..
[11:55] <thoreauputic> myconid: *cough* works for ftp too
[11:55] <frojnd> how can I get those 2 packages on my conputer ?
[11:55] <hhp2k> myconid: That might be the problem :P I'm not sure if I got that with winSCP.
[11:55] <myconid> thoreauputic, *cough* he doesnt have ftp
[11:56] <thoreauputic> myconid: *cough* he can get it for windows
[11:56] <myconid> hhp2k, got what with winSCP
[11:56] <myconid> thoreauputic, *cough* lets not recommend insecure protocols.
[11:56] <hhp2k> ssh, ftp, etc
[11:56] <rake> how about just using a usb stick for now, if he's an urgent need.
[11:56] <thoreauputic> myconid: agreed :)
[11:56] <myconid> sneakernet ftw.
[11:56] <rake> and then he get down to figuring out scp, etc later.
[11:56] <npnuf1> chmod is not changing the permissions for symbolic links.  How can I change the permissions for symbolic links?
[11:57] <opexoc> Do you know what it means when I get this during mounting network shares process: 8931: session setup failed: ERRDOS - ERRnoaccess (Access denied.)
[11:57] <opexoc> SMB connection failed
[11:57] <myconid> hhp2k, apt-get install samba; adduser testsmb; smbpasswd -A testsmb; smbpasswd -E testsmb; /etc/init.d/samba start; goto windows pc, start->run->\\linuxmachineipaddress
[11:57] <thoreauputic> npnuf1: ypu don't change the permissions on the link - you change them on the file
[11:57] <hhp2k> See this is why I like coming here early in the morning.. I get a lot of service :P
[11:57] <myconid> opexoc, that would be an access denied message.
[11:57] <frojnd> Can someone tell me where can I get network-manager and network-manager-gnome for my ubuntu?
[11:57] <rake> apt-get
[11:57] <myconid> frojnd, apt-get ?
[11:57] <rake> ftw
[11:58] <frojnd> myconid, I can't... these 2 packets were my source for the net..
[11:58] <hhp2k> myconid: I'll try that now.
[11:58] <opexoc> myconid: I know, but why? I am using "sudo" command to mount resources.
[11:58] <rake> at the command line, use sudo apt-get install network-manager
[11:58] <myconid> frojnd, ifconfig interface eth0 up?
[11:58] <rake> or, use synaptic, if you've a gui
[11:58] <myconid> opexoc, you dont have perms on the remote machine.
[11:58] <npnuf1> thoreauputic; I just wanted to make the link read only.  I think chattr is the only alternative.
[11:58] <frojnd> myconid: I've tryed but nothing..
[11:59] <myconid> frojnd, i promise you; you DONT need the network manager to get a network connection.
[11:59] <myconid> frojnd, are you using wireless or wired?
[11:59] <thoreauputic> npnuf1: .... erm ... make waht it points at read only
[11:59] <frojnd> myconid wireless...
[11:59] <myconid> frojnd, so use iwconfig
[11:59] <myconid> frojnd, and configure your connection
[11:59] <attunix> Which is a better video editor? Kino or Pitivi?
[12:00] <temper> how to clear terminal history ?
[12:00] <frojnd> myconid: I really ron't know how to do this, since I am stuck here with wireless...
[12:00] <thoreauputic> attunix: 43
[12:00] <myconid> attunix, Kino is MUCH better.
[12:00] <frojnd> myconid I can't find any instructions on computer..
[12:00] <myconid> frojnd, ALT+F2, xterm
[12:00] <hhp2k> myconid: the install worked, but all commands after it failed with permission denied. :/
[12:00] <myconid> then t ype iwconfig
[12:00] <myconid> hhp2k, prefix them with sudo
[12:00] <npnuf1> thoreauputic; then can you tell me how should I do that?
[12:01] <hhp2k> myconid: Alright
[12:01] <attunix> myconid: explain, please? I need to make a video project and I want to find a quick-to-learn video editor with more than just 3 features or something like that.
[12:01] <attunix> thoreauputic: 43? :S
[12:01] <myconid> attunix, i have no idea.. i was just making you happy by giving you an answer.. i didnt claim it was the RIGHT answer, but an answer.
[12:01] <frojnd> myconid: ok, I'll try,
[12:01] <myconid> attunix, i use Final Cut Pro and Premier
[12:01] <attunix> myconid: ok :)
[12:01] <thoreauputic> npnuf1: see where the link points - ls -l /path/to/link , then do a chmod 444 if you really want read only, on that file
[12:01] <temper>  anyone know that ,how to clear terminal history ?
[12:01] <attunix> myconid: yeah.... um.... free as in beer please :)
[12:02] <myconid> temper, rm ~/.bash_history
[12:02] <opexoc> myconid: ok but this resources what I want to get are on my ubuntu machine. It is very weird for me that I can explore them thanks to WIN XP on other side of network, but I can't do this from my system using default file manager.
[12:02] <npnuf1> theoreauputic; thanks.
[12:02] <hhp2k> myconid: Wait, if I just put the rest of those commands in the terminal, they won't just be recognized by samba, will they?
[12:02] <nrdb> temper: the 'reset' command
[12:02] <thoreauputic> attunix: asking "which is better, X or Y is kind of meaningless
[12:02] <attunix> thoreauputic: well, I want the public's opinion to see which is more widely used and why
[12:02] <myconid> hhp2k, i gave you almost everything you need.. google ubuntu samba setup for more.. its pretty easy.. especially when i gave you the steps.
[12:03] <thoreauputic> attunix: ah, that's a different question altogether :)
[12:03] <opexoc> myconid: when I want to explore this file then I get: the folder contents could not be displayed.
[12:03] <attunix> :)
[12:03] <myconid> opexoc, This is ubuntu support.. your error is a Windows side error.
[12:04] <myconid> opexoc, but I would bet a beer or two its a windowspermission issue
[12:04] <xjkx> !codecs
[12:04] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[12:05] <opexoc> myconid: You maybe don't understand. This has nothing with Windows. I want to explore my own directories on my ubuntu machine throught ubuntu graphic file manager.
[12:05] <thoreauputic> npnuf1: be sure you actually want 444 on the file - if it is a directory you need at least access (x)
[12:05] <myconid> opexoc, and whats the problem?
[12:05] <myconid> opexoc, what folder are you trying to view
[12:05] <myconid> /home/anotheruser ?
[12:06] <npnuf1> thoreauputic;  the original file is having 444.  may be my question is ridiculous!
[12:06] <thoreauputic> npnuf1: if it is 444 it is definitely read only :)
[12:07] <myconid> today seems like a good day for drinking.
[12:07] <opexoc> myconid: No I want to view my home folder throught this graphic windows manager - smb://opexoc/homes. And I get what I said.
[12:07] <npnuf1> theoreauputic; I just wanted the link to be readonly.  may be this is impossible in Linux.
[12:07] <thoreauputic> myconid: every day is a good day for drinking :)
[12:08] <thoreauputic> npnuf1: it's meaningless...
[12:08] <opexoc> myconid: but when I want to explore it thanks to windows xp then I have to put password and I can do explore it.
[12:08] <myconid> opexoc, so, I offer my previous assertion once again -- you have a samba permissions issue.
[12:08] <thoreauputic> npnuf1: you set permissions on real files, not symlinks
[12:08] <myconid> why are you trying to browse the local machine over smb?
[12:09] <npnuf1> ok, ok, my thoughts are meaningless.
[12:09] <opexoc> myconid: because I am testing samba. What I can do and what I can't.
[12:09] <Bo^Dick> what command displays all partitions detected by ubuntu?
[12:09] <myconid> opexoc, its either software,hardware, or user error.
[12:09] <thoreauputic> npnuf1: maybe you just need to rephrase what you are trying to do :)
[12:09] <myconid> opexoc, it sounds like youve tested software and hardware
[12:10] <thoreauputic> Bo^Dick: df
[12:10] <Bo^Dick> thanks
[12:10] <opexoc> myconid: I just wonder why I can't explore my own resources.
[12:11] <myconid> opexoc, so, I offer my previous assertion once again -- you have a samba permissions issue. <<<<
[12:12] <myconidx> Silly 7.10 upgrade.
[12:12] <opexoc> myconid: yes. probably. But do you know what should I do to repair that ( any suggestions? )?
[12:13] <myconidx> opexoc, i am not sure what the problem is... you havent made it very clear.. if you can connect from xp->linux just fine, then maybe samba isnt bound on <IP_ADDRESS>, or maybe your not passing a username/password correctly, etc, etc.
[12:13] <myconidx> brb 7.10 time
[12:13] <Blindraven> Question! running Ubuntu, samba decides it just wont play sometimes, no particular reasons that i can tell. I'll throw it a sudo /etc/init.d/samba stop/start and it just wont play. some other times all my shares are there.. (when i view network from the Places panel) any ideas guys?
[12:15] <frojnd> u vere right...
[12:15] <frojnd> It works without window manager..
[12:16] <frojnd> anyway: I'm trying to enable rt61 module for my wireless card, cause computer freezes on every 2 hours or 3... https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/RalinkRT61?highlight=%28WifiDocs%2FDriver%29
[12:16] <tsurc>  on a single machine with iptables, a desktop and dansguardian/squid is there any way I can force traffic (any port) owned by the "guest" group to be redirected to port 8080
[12:16] <frojnd> I just don't understand, here in this manual says that feisty has ra1 but I don't have ra1
[12:16] <frojnd> only ra0
[12:16] <myconid> tsurc, no
[12:16] <zoldar> is it possible to add axis description "by hand" in OO Calc?
[12:18] <Bo^Dick> uhm, i know i've got another large ntfs partition besides the /windows one
[12:18] <Bo^Dick> why isn't it displayed?
[12:18] <jhatlelid> Hi .. How come I don't find "lcdproc" in "apt-cache search" when it is here? http://packages.ubuntu.com/feisty/utils/lcdproc
[12:19] <heguru> tsurc: actually i believe you can
[12:19] <_Johny> I just eager to know how come, installing a program throught svn make it appear in the upgrade list later? Can anyone answer?
[12:20] <opexoc> myconidx: what does it mean bound on <IP_ADDRESS>? Where can I set this option?
[12:20] <scag> I made a page redirection under <virtualhost>, in apache's httpd.conf but the page is not getting redirected (It worked earlier). Can someone help me fix this?
[12:20] <heguru> tsurc: there is a match module --match owner --gid <grouname> that will match all traffic generated by the specified group
[12:20] <littlefinger> My Logitech Quickcam is not supported by default, so I compiled the qc-usb-messenger module myself. However, the /dev/video0 device node is not created by udev. http://www.reactivated.net/writing_udev_rules.html says that this should happen automatically, but it doesn't. How come?
[12:20] <Moosky> scag did you restart apache?
[12:20] <scag> Moosky: Yes
[12:20] <hhp2k> How do you find out your ip on Ubuntu?
[12:20] <heguru> tsurc: that can then be redirected to port 8080
[12:21] <Moosky> hhp2k: ifconfig
[12:21] <hhp2k> That's it, thanks
[12:21] <philip_> Hello to all of the nice people in the ubuntu channel :)
[12:21] <zoldar> nevermind, found it...
[12:21] <tsurc> heguru: its getting the syntax right though. Its got to that time of day that I just cant see the wood for the trees
[12:22] <frojnd> I have a Q. about passphrase. Is passphrase the same as Access Point ? something like this: 00:40:DE:AC:94:96  ??
[12:22] <scag> Moosky: http://www.cgi-interactive-uk.com/apache_redirect_directive.html <--- I used thsi example, and it worked. After I put the url to my own pages, it no longer redirects. I put it back to the pages as it was in the tutorial and now that won't work either.
[12:23] <philip_> Little problem:  I uninstalled vmware from my system, and now I can't install it again because the console says I already have it (I don't)
[12:23] <Bo^Dick> one of my ntfs partitions isn't visible with the df command, why?
[12:23] <heguru> tsurc: the rule will be something like this: iptables -t nat -A PREROUTING -p tcp --match owner --gid-owner guest -j REDIRECT --to-port 8080
[12:24] <digitalspaghetti> Hey, can anyone help - My gf has given me her iPod nano, problem is it's name is ALEX'S IPOD, and I can't seem to get rockbox to recognise it, and when I try umount it only recognises the ALEX' part.  Is there any way in Ubuntu to rename it or remount it to /media/ipod  ?
[12:25] <kbrooks> heguru, sorry to annoy, but why does he want to do that?
[12:25] <kbrooks> digitalspaghetti, umm...
[12:25] <khamael> when I try to run sudo apt-get update I get this: http://pastebin.com/d13ed1291 what can I do?
[12:25] <kbrooks> digitalspaghetti, use quotes.
[12:25] <wilson> digitalspaghetti,  you need to work out which dev it is, eg /dev/sdd
[12:25] <heguru> kbrooks: he wants to send all the traffic generated by users in guest group to be sent to his SQUID proxy
[12:26] <heguru> Bo^Dick: is the partition mounted?
[12:26] <kbrooks> heguru, ah ok, that just goes to say how useful iptables can be.
[12:26] <heguru> kbrooks: oh yes you can do miracles with iptables :D
[12:27] <digitalspaghetti> wilson, whats the easier way to do that?
[12:27] <kbrooks> heguru, "miracles" lol
[12:27] <scag> http://www.cgi-interactive-uk.com/apache_redirect_directive.html <--- I used thsi example, and it worked. After I put the url to my own pages, it no longer redirects. I put it back to the pages as it was in the tutorial and now that won't work either.
[12:27] <scag> I need to redirect my website
[12:28] <zimmy__> im installing a new server? and i had to add noapi to usb to get it to work? does this mean i should just install the 64bit install?
[12:28] <tsurc> heguru: na I'm getting invalid argument, any idea how I can debug it?
[12:28] <heguru> scag: why not pastebin the lines you added to redirect your website?
[12:29] <heguru> tsurc: it might be that --gid-owner only takes numeric group ids, run getent group | grep guest and use the numeric id
[12:29] <senlina_05> yoo...yoo.yooo
[12:29] <wilson> im not 100% sure but the first usb mass storage device you plug in should be /dev/sdd
[12:29] <kbrooks> scag, offtopic here, use #apache
[12:29] <kbrooks> wilson, no...
[12:30] <heguru> wilson: no
[12:30] <wilson> seems to on my computer here
[12:30] <kbrooks> wilson, really, you mean sda. but it depends.
[12:30] <wilson> ive just tried plugging my muvo into different ports
[12:30] <heguru> wilson: it depends on the computer
[12:30] <rhalff> hi, how do I configure the screen for those opengl games ? I use two monitors and the game appears small and in the middle.
[12:30] <senlina_05> mn niy
[12:30] <tsurc> heguru: one step ahead of you I'd done that already. same result both times
[12:30] <philip_> I have a problem with my openGL X server, any can help?
[12:30] <kbrooks> wilson, typing "mount", without quotes, on the command line, can tell you the /dev name
[12:30] <senlina_05> yellow
[12:30] <heguru> tsurc: ok let me try it myself first
[12:31] <zimmy__> i meant i have to add noapic to get it to install on my new server i just built
[12:31] <wilson> ahh, there you go that's the easy way then
[12:31] <kbrooks> philip_, i doubt it, but if we don't help at all, join #ubuntu-effects
[12:31] <wilson> so after you find out what device it is you can type in umount /dev/whatever
[12:31] <scag> !paste
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[12:31] <heguru> tsurc: its --redirect-ports 8080
[12:31] <heguru> tsurc: --to-ports 8080
[12:31] <senlina_05> yyyyy
[12:32] <wilson> then mount /dev/whatever /directory_you_want
[12:32] <khamael> does anybody else have problems running "sudo apt-get update"? I get a strange error: http://pastebin.com/d13ed1291
[12:32] <Steezus> hello, quick question, seems like an easy answer but cant find in google. how do you apply emerald themes???
[12:32] <khamael> Steezus: you should ask in #ubuntu-effects
[12:33] <Steezus> thanks
[12:33] <zimmy__> i just took my fbsd disro off and im installing ubuntu? i think its for the better? right is it more secure than fbsd was?
[12:33] <tsurc> heguru: "iptables v1.3.6: Unknown arg `--redirect-ports'"
[12:33] <scag> heguru: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/40144/plain/
[12:33] <heguru> tsurc: one min
[12:34] <youness> i have problem in installing ubuntu
[12:34] <vikas> #freetds
[12:34] <vikas> join #freetds
[12:35] <xubuntuM> i have problem in configuration materiel
[12:35] <Steezus> hello, quick question, should be easy answer but cannot find in google. how do you apply emerald themes?
[12:35] <heguru> tsurc:  iptables -t nat -A OUTPUT -p tcp --match owner --gid-owner 1000 -j REDIRECT --to-ports 8080
[12:35] <khamael> my apt-get seems to be broken. every time I try to run an apt-get command, I get E: Dynamic MMap ran out of room
[12:35] <heguru> replace 1000 with your gid
[12:35] <heguru> tsurc: just verified, it works too
[12:35] <rake|lurk> khamael: have you tried sudo apt-get check
[12:36] <khamael> rake|lurk: same error
[12:36] <kbrooks> zimmy__, security depends on us humans.
[12:36] <Steezus> crap this is not the effects channel is it
[12:36] <kbrooks> zimmy__, not on a particular setup.
[12:36] <kbrooks> Steezus, /join #ubuntu-effects
[12:36] <kbrooks> zimmy__, humans write software.
[12:36] <heguru> tsurc: in your case 8080 might be 3128
[12:36] <Steezus> sorry, just using irc for first time. will try going there!
[12:37] <kbrooks> zimmy__, therefore we are the weak links in security.
[12:37] <tsurc> heguru: yup worked here too, now I'm hoping that those pesky kids won't be able to circumnavigate it. edubuntu gutsy + squid + dansguardian + iptable = one kick ass terminal server
[12:37] <kbrooks> zimmy__, so the answer to that question is subjective
[12:37] <khamael> rake|lurk: is there anything else I can try?
[12:37] <rake|lurk> khamael: try this....
[12:37] <rake|lurk> http://rwxii.bitblaster.com/k/11-1-1-031211102449/permlink.hptb
[12:38] <kbrooks> tsurc, they might be able to circumvent it with enough knowledge and convincing you to make them an admin
[12:38] <heguru> tsurc: lols, well i doubt that, kids can bypass any type of protection!, instead of trying to block, I would rather just LOG every connection
[12:38] <_Johny> I'm just eager to know how come, installing a program throught svn make it appear in the upgrade list later? Can anyone answer?
[12:38] <tsurc> heguru: thanks for your help. me thinks I'll be writting it up somewhere on the edubuntu wiki. and add logging too
[12:38] <kbrooks> tsurc, can i pm you :p
[12:39] <scag> heguru: Hello?
[12:39] <rake|lurk> khamael:  at first blush is looks like your sources.list has been added to a bit  :)
[12:39] <tsurc> kbrooks, yeh sure
[12:39] <heguru> scag: oh i forgot you, wait let me check
[12:39] <scag> okay.
[12:39] <rldowling03> Hi all. Is there anyone who can help me setting up my bluetooth with ubuntu
[12:40] <khamael> rake|lurk: tried the apt.conf thing.. .still same error
[12:40] <rake|lurk> khamael: in short, that site suggests to edit /etc/apt/apt.conf and add APT::Cache-Limit "16777216";
[12:40] <rake|lurk> guh
[12:40] <heguru> scag: what error are you getting?
[12:41] <scag> heguru: None, it doesn't redirect
[12:41] <rake|lurk> khamael: read through your source list file, and comment out the stuff that doesn't seem to actually be from ubuntu
[12:41] <heguru> scag: are you on ubuntu?
[12:41] <scag> heguru: Yes