[04:30] <sebsebseb> needhelp1: or just follow the installer through and install it
[04:30] <Classic> go here https://launchpad.net/~mactel-support/+archive/ppa
[04:30] <donald> ok, im a 13 year old boy who just installed ubuntu 9.10 on his unibody macbook 5,1  and is currently on it and completley new to ubuntu and is trying to get the "bugs" out of it, for example the fan is very very low and the sound doesnt work
[04:31] <needhelp1> sebsebseb: brb
[04:31] <Piet> Michi_akane: have you rebooted after the upgrade?
[04:32] <Michi_akane> Piet: Yes
[04:32] <sebsebseb> donald: that means you got to configure stuff,  and not that many of us run Ubuntu on Mac,   I don't
[04:32] <Piet> Michi_akane: also, do you actually use firestarter?
[04:32] <robdig> disappearedng: looks like your libraries are missing...probably need to reinstall php
[04:32] <Classic> donald, click system > administration > software sources
[04:32] <disappearedng> robdig I just did a purge
[04:32] <Piet> Michi_akane: and is it configured to allow those inbound connections?
[04:32] <Linuz2009> what's the command for running clamav?
[04:32] <Michi_akane> Piet: I did not install that until afterwards
[04:32] <sebsebseb> Linuz2009: heh
[04:32] <losher> Alek_86: You might try googling your 'puter to see if there are known problems (and workarounds) for your PC...
[04:32] <donald> ok im in software sources
[04:33] <sebsebseb> Linuz2009: I remember you :)   we already talked before about  how antivirus isn't really needed with Linux distros, except for scanning for Windows viruses, that won't infect Linux distros anyway
[04:33] <sebsebseb> !virus
[04:33] <Michi_akane> Piet: I was trying to troubleshoot this thing.
[04:33] <losher> donald: I think you've done really well to get this far with your install, btw...
[04:33] <Classic> now do click on third party
[04:33] <robdig> disappearedng: well...that would remove the package
[04:33] <donald> well thanks losher
[04:33] <donald> i thought i was off to a not so good start
[04:34] <Classic> then click add
[04:34] <Piet> Michi_akane: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Firestarter#Stalled connections
[04:34] <losher> donald: no, you've done really well. As someone pointed out, you configuration isn't a very common one, so we don't have much experience with it...
[04:34] <Linuz2009> well instead of viruses how about other malicious software, rootkit, trojans, spyware/adware...etc?
[04:34] <Classic> then paste first line of code deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/mactel-support/ppa/ubuntu jaunty main
[04:34] <lightbricko> When I'm doing a lot of administrative tasks, is it possible to "remember" the password the entire session so I don't need to type it in all the time? Or is there an alternative, such as loggin in as root?
[04:34] <donald> wait, add wat
[04:34] <Piet> Michi_akane: i recommend you "aptitude purge firestarter" for now since it adds comlexity which makes debugging more difficult
[04:35] <sebsebseb> Linuz2009: trojans and worms  go under the virus label both of them
[04:35] <Classic> click add
[04:35] <donald> so im supposed to be in the third party sofware tab?
[04:35] <sebsebseb> Linuz2009: rootkits rather unlikely to have any in  your  Ubuntu unless somone   brakes into your computer
[04:35] <Classic> yes
[04:35] <Linuz2009> sebsebseb: does cookies count as a spyware?
[04:35] <needhelp1> sebsebseb: before i go and start the install.. do i need to check the md5sum now before.. or later?
[04:35] <santina> hello
[04:36] <sebsebseb> Linuz2009: no
[04:36] <VoodooDance> Howdy all
[04:36] <donald> ok thanks so now i clicked add
[04:36] <sebsebseb> needhelp1: your on the Live CD now or?
[04:36] <Classic> third party > ADD
[04:36] <needhelp1> not yet
[04:36] <grendal_prime> Im trying to setup a ha apache cluster...(two apache2 server whos /var/www/ is mounted onto a redunant file server.)  This is being built in a vm enviro. I have everything working but i cannot for the live of me get heartbeat to behave.
[04:36] <sevodnya> !ask | santina
[04:36] <VoodooDance> does anyone know how to get recordmydesktop to record the sound of the application you are recording?  I can get it to record the mic but not the app...
[04:36] <Linuz2009> sebsebseb: so Linux can't be infected with spyware too?
[04:36] <Classic> now in the opened window paste this :      deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/mactel-support/ppa/ubuntu jaunty main
[04:37] <sebsebseb> needhelp1: ok do it in Windows.   I  would use this old program  to do  the checking   http://www.md5summer.org  yep get the beta from 2006
[04:37] <donald> ok i have pasted it
[04:37] <Michi_akane> Piet: done
[04:37] <Classic> ok
[04:37] <Piet> Michi_akane: once you have done this, please run and pastebin the following, as root: "uptime;uname -a;iptales -L;ifconfig;lspci -n;ps auxw"
[04:37] <sebsebseb> Linuz2009: spyware not that likely,   maybe  some cross  platform  browser  spyware exists, but otherwise nah
[04:37] <needhelp1> can i do it from within unbutu when i install?
[04:37] <Classic> now press add source to close that
[04:38] <needhelp1> or from the live cd?
[04:38] <Classic> then add another source
[04:38] <donald> the add source button is gray and wont let me click
[04:38] <sebsebseb> needhelp1: as long as you shut Windows down properly,  you  can md5sum the  ISO on the Live CD yeah
[04:38] <Classic> this time add this line :     deb-src http://ppa.launchpad.net/mactel-support/ppa/ubuntu jaunty main
[04:38] <needhelp1> how lol?
[04:38] <sebsebseb> needhelp1: Windows must be shut down properly,  or  Linux distros can't access it
[04:39] <Classic> make sure that it ends with jaunty main
[04:39] <sebsebseb> needhelp1: boot up the Live CD and come back here, and we continue?
[04:39] <donald> ok hold on im having a problem
[04:39] <needhelp1> kk
[04:39] <needhelp1> brb
[04:39] <Classic> first source should be this:
[04:39] <Classic> deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/mactel-support/ppa/ubuntu jaunty main
[04:39] <DaZ> sebastien: bs
[04:39] <Linuz2009> sebsebseb: what does it mean when I like watch videos for too long and the computer starts to slow down?
[04:39] <sebsebseb> DaZ: what?
[04:39] <DaZ> mount with with -o force
[04:39] <sebsebseb> DaZ: well there is that sure
[04:39] <Michi_akane> Piet: http://paste.ubuntu.com/173392/
[04:40] <sebsebseb> DaZ: ,but the NTFS force mount does not always work for people
[04:40] <DaZ> it works for me
[04:40] <Classic> got it donald?
[04:40] <sebsebseb> !worksforme  |  DaZ
[04:40] <sebsebseb> DaZ: what you said was ok, but I wanted to do the bot thing :)
[04:41] <DaZ> it works for me and every person i've met
[04:41] <DaZ> <:
[04:41] <donald> ok i added one of them
[04:41] <Classic> second one is this:
[04:41] <Classic> deb-src http://ppa.launchpad.net/mactel-support/ppa/ubuntu jaunty main
[04:41] <donavan01> anyone out there using AWN  I am trying to find out if there is a way to make the bar lock to the right or left rather than the middle
[04:41] <donald> o i entered the 2nd one does it matter which order?
[04:41] <sebsebseb> donavan01: apparantly  Cairo Dock is better than AWN
[04:42] <Classic> no, just dont enter them twice
[04:42] <Classic> then this one
[04:42] <Classic> deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/mactel-support/ppa/ubuntu jaunty main
[04:43] <sebsebseb> Classic: why is he using ppa's already?
[04:43] <donavan01> sebsebseb:   Cairo .... I will have to look into that ... I am using eeebuntu on my eee and it came with the AWN but hey if its light enough Im all about trying cairo
[04:43] <donald> ok i have these two entered
[04:43] <losher> ubottu: wow, I think that's your most pious one yet
[04:43] <Classic> cuz he needs packages that arent in repos
[04:43] <sebsebseb> ah ok
[04:43] <vera> hai leh  knlan gk
[04:43] <Classic> mactel support
[04:43] <sebsebseb> ok
[04:43] <Classic> if u can find them for jaunty its great
[04:44] <Classic> ok donald
[04:44] <Classic> not close that window
[04:44] <judget_> is there a way to get libmp3lame for ubuntu?
[04:44] <Classic> i mean, now close it
[04:44] <judget_> and libmp3lame-dev
[04:44] <tadesse> join #asterisk
[04:44] <donald> i dont have to click revert or anything?
[04:44] <Linuz2009> oh well see ya! Thanks!
[04:44] <robdig> judget_: they are in the repos
[04:44] <sebsebseb> tadesse: join #ubuntu
[04:45] <Classic> no just close
[04:45] <judget_> robdig which repose I cannot find them
[04:45] <donald> ok its closed
[04:45] <joanki123> does anyone know if there is software in the repositories that works like mathematica?
[04:45] <Classic> open a console
[04:45] <Classic> applications > accessories > terminal
[04:45] <donald> ok
[04:45] <Classic> now you need to refresh your sources
[04:45] <donald> how do i do that
[04:46] <Classic> type in sudo apt-get update
[04:46] <Piet> Michi_akane: actually it looks like you have not rebooted since the last update
[04:46] <Classic> enter your password there
[04:46] <donald> ok i did that
[04:46] <AlsaPCM> any uses qutecsound ?
[04:46] <robdig> judget_: multiverse i think
[04:46] <Classic> ok
[04:46] <Classic> now try to follow that guide again
[04:46] <Classic> start with this
[04:47] <Classic> sudo apt-get install applesmc-dkms
[04:47] <judget_> robdig sorry Im too newbee to understabd can you give more details please
[04:47] <Michi_akane> Piet: I have restarted this box several times from cold starts.
[04:47] <judget_> how can i emable theose repos?
[04:47] <donald> ok it says install packages without verification should i do yes or no
[04:48] <Classic> yes
[04:48] <disappearedng> any1 here familiar with php-config ?
[04:48] <sebsebseb> disappearedng: nah  try #php
[04:48] <thiebaude> !software sources
[04:48] <robdig> judget_: ok. go to system->administration->software sources
[04:48] <donald> ok thats finished
[04:48] <Classic> great!
[04:48] <needhelp1> sebsebseb: im back now
[04:48] <Classic> you got it
[04:48] <sebsebseb> needhelp1: ok
[04:48] <judget_> robdig--im there
[04:48] <sebsebseb> needhelp1: places >  computer
[04:48] <Classic> gksudo gedit /etc/modules
[04:49] <AlsaPCM> seems like no one uses qutecsound :S
[04:49] <needhelp1> sebsebseb: ok im there
[04:49] <sebsebseb> needhelp1: well  you need to do this in terminal really, but  first  if you know where it is graphicalley
[04:49] <robdig> judget_: on the tab ubuntu software, there should be a checkbox for multiverse, says software restricted by copyright or legal issues
[04:49] <jun_> PHP+MySQL+JQuery+ExtJS = No.1
[04:49] <losher> AlsaPCM: I'd never even *heard* of it...
[04:49] <donald> ok some window popped up
[04:49] <sebsebseb> needhelp1: open your Windows partition,   find your iso
[04:49] <Xcell> Did i get a bad install...or can you no longer drag the top panel to the bottom?
[04:49] <Classic> yes
[04:49] <robdig> judget_: make sure that box is checked, then you can close the dialog box
[04:50] <Classic> now go to the bottom of it
[04:50] <AlsaPCM> losher, Its a front end for csound
[04:50] <Classic> very bottom
[04:50] <donald> ok
[04:50] <Classic> and add these lines
[04:50] <sebsebseb> needhelp1: view > location bar
[04:50] <Classic> coretemp
[04:50] <AlsaPCM> losher, U know csound
[04:50] <donald> like right below the lp?
[04:50] <AlsaPCM> ?
[04:50] <Vesayth> Hello! Is there anyone that can help me set up a VPN server on my Ubuntu machine? I'm trying to follow the guides that are out there, but I think I'm just totally lost at this point. I'm using Ubuntu 8.10 64-bit, and I'm using a router with DD-WRT micro firmware.
[04:50] <needhelp1> sebsebseb: ok i found my iso on my windows drive
[04:50] <needhelp1> now what
[04:50] <Classic> the very end
[04:50] <Classic> on new line
[04:50] <sebsebseb> needhelp1: applications > assesorires > terminal
[04:50] <Piet> Michi_akane: ok, but it has apparently not booted into the new kernel, yet
[04:50] <perlsyntax> Does anyone use emacs in here?
[04:51] <dominoeffekt> yup!:D
[04:51] <Piet> Michi_akane: the one which was installed on the last upgrade
[04:51] <needhelp1> ok
[04:51] <donald> ok so coretemp reight under the lp on a new line
[04:51] <starcannon> I'm trying to find out what version of openGL I'm running, anyone know the command?
[04:51] <Piet> Michi_akane: also, firestarter is still running
[04:51] <sebsebseb> needhelp1: you know about  the terminal yet?   it will be like your best friend in Ubuntu :)   the more experienced you get
[04:51] <losher> AlsaPCM: just looked it up. Sorry, can't help you...
[04:51] <Classic> ok
[04:51] <perlsyntax> Does anyone know how to start libmodule-find-perl for emacs?
[04:51] <robdig> judget_: if you're using synaptic to install software, go in and hit the reload button. if you're using command line, then do sudo apt-get update
[04:51] <Classic> then this one below coretemp
[04:51] <AlsaPCM> np
[04:51] <judget_> yea thats checked
[04:51] <Classic> applesmc
[04:51] <robdig> judget_: then you should be able to download the packages
[04:51] <AlsaPCM> i think it might be the qt4 libraris
[04:51] <needhelp1> sebsebseb: ok im there
[04:51] <starcannon> nm just solved it-- glxinfo shows it
[04:51] <donald> ok
[04:51] <Michi_akane> Piet: I tried booting in the previous kernel to try to isolate the problem.   I saw the firestarter client was running when I did the purge
[04:52] <AlsaPCM> when i try to do make after the gmake i have some errors
[04:52] <sebsebseb> needhelp1: by default the terminal is in your home folder
[04:52] <sebsebseb> needhelp1: however you want to change the directory to your windows folder  by using cd
[04:52] <Piet> Michi_akane: do you want to try to remove it again?
[04:52] <sebsebseb> needhelp1: did you view the location bar as I said?  that will show the location  where the ISO is
[04:52] <Piet> Michi_akane: please reboot into the latest kernel, then we can continue trying to isolate this issue
[04:52] <starcannon> actually glxinfo | grep OpenGL is the best command for finding OpenGL version btw.
[04:52] <Classic> now close that window and save
[04:53] <needhelp1> yeah
[04:53] <needhelp1> its says its in a drive called OS
[04:53] <Michi_akane> Piet: I can do that...  BRB  --- tnx for your help...
[04:53] <donald> ok i have saved and closed the window
[04:53] <sebsebseb> needhelp1: cd  /media/windowspartition/examplefolder/folderwhereisois
[04:53] <Classic> great
[04:53] <Classic> now your keyboard
[04:53] <Classic> in terminal put in this:
[04:53] <Classic> sudo apt-get install hal-applesmc hid-dkms
[04:53] <sebsebseb> needhelp1: then hit enter once you got the correct location, and the terminal will change to that folder
[04:54] <FrankQC> Testing
[04:54] <perlsyntax> ?
[04:54] <sebsebseb> needhelp1: ah yes you can  start typing a location in and  auto complete with tab
[04:55] <donald> ok i have done that but it said couldnt find package hid-dkms
[04:55] <AWR> hello
[04:55] <Classic> hm...
[04:55] <Classic> ok
[04:55] <needhelp1> sebsebseb: ok im in teh right directory
[04:55] <Delamore> Sorry guys, I just figured this was the biggest channel so I should ask here
[04:55] <sebsebseb> needhelp1: md5sum   namegoeshere.iso  and hit enter
[04:56] <sebsebseb> md5sum
[04:56] <Delamore> Whats the channel for freenode support?
[04:56] <Classic> ok
[04:56] <sebsebseb> Delamore: #freenode
[04:56] <Classic> maybe its been replaced
[04:56] <Delamore> Wow, thanks
[04:56] <sebsebseb> no problem
[04:56] <Classic> do you have bluetooth?
[04:56] <donald> yes
[04:56] <Classic> ok
[04:56] <donald> i dont use it though
[04:56] <AWR> i have 2 nics on a computer with ubuntu. i want to use the networkmanger on one but not the other, is there a way to configre NM to do that?
[04:56] <sebsebseb> needhelp1: it should give you a code for the ISO
[04:56] <Classic> sudo hciconfig hci0 reset
[04:57] <needhelp1> yep i got a code
[04:57] <donald> ok i did that
[04:57] <sebsebseb> needhelp1: now you need to compare that code to the one on Ubuntu's site,  they need to be a match
[04:57] <Classic> great
[04:57] <Classic> now trakpad
[04:57] <needhelp1> where is it on the ubuntu site
[04:57] <sebsebseb> needhelp1: the  CD is probably all fine, since it booted ok, but even so,  this is a good thing to do
[04:57] <Classic> sudo apt-get install bcm5974-dkms
[04:57] <losher> perlsyntax: libmodule-find-perl doesn't look like an emacs function. What exactly are you trying to do?
[04:58] <donald> ok i did that
[04:58] <Classic> both installed\?
[04:58] <sebsebseb> needhelp1: http://releases.ubuntu.com/9.04/MD5SUMS
[04:58] <needhelp1> sebsebseb: where can i find the has
[04:59] <sebsebseb> http://releases.ubuntu.com/9.04/MD5SUMS
[04:59] <judget_> robdig  checked all that and sudo apt-get install lib3lame says couldnt find package
[04:59] <FrankQC> hm
[04:59] <sebsebseb> needhelp1: check your code,  it's a match?
[04:59] <donald> wat do u mean both i only got the thing for the sudo apt-get install bcm5974-dkms
[04:59] <donald> was there another one i was supposed to do?
[04:59] <Classic> yes sorry
[05:00] <needhelp1> sebsebseb: yes but i have a question.. im using the i386 disk.. but i think my machine has a amd processor
[05:00] <needhelp1> is this an issue?
[05:00] <Michi_akane> Piet: I am back - http://paste.ubuntu.com/173398/
[05:00] <robdig> judget_: package names are libmp3lame0 and libmp3lame-dev
[05:00] <Classic> sudo cp /usr/share/hal/fdi/policy/20thirdparty/11-x11-synaptics.fdi /etc/hal/fdi/policy/
[05:00] <donald> o its ok everyone makes mistakes im just lucky i have a person helping me
[05:00] <Piet> Michi_akane: welcome back. at some point you should decide whether this should be a server or a desktop pc, since it's already busier than it should be now. your average load is > 1. please purge firestarter, then pastebin the output of the following commands, run as root: dpkg -l firestarter; iptables -L; tail -200 /var/log/apache*/error.log; for FILE in $(ls -1 /proc/sys/net/ipv4/conf/eth*/*); do echo $FILE $(cat $FILE); done; for NIC in $
[05:00] <Piet> (ls -d /proc/sys/net/ipv4/conf/eth*|cut -d'/' -f7); do echo mii-tool $NIC:;mii-tool $NIC; done
[05:00] <sebsebseb> needhelp1: how much RAM do you have?  and the 32bit  can also run on 64bit  proccessor
[05:00] <Piet> guess i should use pastebin, too
[05:00] <Brack10> Hey everyone
[05:00] <DaZ> needhelp1: it's in intel architecture anyway <:
[05:00] <needhelp1> i have 1GB
[05:00] <sebsebseb> needhelp1: then you probably don't have 64bit
[05:00] <needhelp1> how can i check
[05:00] <Brack10> on my Asus Eee PC netbook running 9.10 standard....works great
[05:00] <sebsebseb> needhelp1: or you do, but you have a rather silly amount of RAM for it
[05:01] <Brack10> Ubuntu FTW
[05:01] <Classic> thats what people are for, to help others
[05:01] <Brack10> internal webcam, mic all works
[05:01] <Classic> ok so you did that? sudo cp /usr/share/hal/fdi/policy/20thirdparty/11-x11-synaptics.fdi /etc/hal/fdi/policy/
[05:01] <sebsebseb> Classic: well  sure if it's a user community
[05:01] <DaZ> sebsebseb: i have 1gb and 64bit processor <:
[05:01] <ralph> Good job Jaunty
[05:01] <DaZ> and 64bit distro :f
[05:01] <Piet> Michi_akane: thanks for having run these commands again, that was already helpful. unfortunately we need the others, too
[05:01] <ralph> I love it
[05:01] <Classic> yes sebsebseb
[05:01] <judget_> robdig couldnt fine either
[05:01] <sebsebseb> DaZ: well they say people need at least 4GB RAM, or 64bit is pretty much pointless
[05:02] <ralph> It revitalize my NC4000 1.6Ghz Laptop
[05:02] <DaZ> sebsebseb: 32didn't work for me
[05:02] <needhelp1> so do i need to check, or am i safe
[05:02] <sebsebseb> DaZ: odd
[05:02] <Piet> Michi_akane: here they are once again: dpkg -l firestarter; iptables -L; tail -200 /var/log/apache*/error.log; for FILE in $(ls -1 /proc/sys/net/ipv4/conf/eth*/*); do echo $FILE $(cat $FILE); done; for NIC in $(ls -d /proc/sys/net/ipv4/conf/eth*|cut -d'/' -f7); do echo mii-tool $NIC:;mii-tool $NIC; done
[05:02] <Vesayth> Hello! Is there anyone that can help me set up a VPN server on my Ubuntu machine? I'm trying to follow the guides that are out there, but I think I'm just totally lost at this point. I'm using Ubuntu 8.10 64-bit, and I'm using a router with DD-WRT micro firmware.
[05:02] <DaZ> i know :f
[05:02] <louisianna> hello, how can I uninstall the linux images? I have like 5 old images, and I want to get rid of the previous images
[05:02] <Classic> donald
[05:03] <judget_> robdig I am ubuntu Hardy
[05:03] <donald> it said missing destination file operand after ...
[05:03] <Classic> ok
[05:03] <donald> and it said type cp --help for more info
[05:03] <sebsebseb> louisianna: search for them in synaptic and then remove the old stuff, that's one way,  oh  right click  and say  remove the config to :)
[05:03] <robdig> judget_: it should be in hardy too
[05:03] <robdig> !info libmp3lame-dev
[05:03] <ralph> where can I found dkms Ubuntu package?
[05:03] <needhelp1> sebsebseb: what should i do now
[05:03] <sebsebseb> louisianna: search for  like kernel, and see what comes up in Synaptic
[05:03] <judget_> yea i thought it was all i see is liblame-dev and liblame0
[05:03] <Classic> try again... every symbol must be there
[05:04] <Classic> sudo cp /usr/share/hal/fdi/policy/20thirdparty/11-x11-synaptics.fdi /etc/hal/fdi/policy/
[05:04] <AWR> i have 2 nics on a computer with ubuntu. i want to use the networkmanger on one but not the other, is there a way to configre NM to do that?
[05:04] <sebsebseb> needhelp1: the codes were the same yes?  and your on 1GB RAM?
[05:04] <needhelp1> yeah on both
[05:04] <robdig> judget_: could be they changed the name with jaunty...which is what i'm on now
[05:04] <donald> now after the fdi is there a space?
[05:04] <sebsebseb> donald: Ext4 or no Ext4 thinking
[05:04] <robdig> judget_: you can do apt-cache search lame and see what package names show up...
[05:04] <Classic> yes one space
[05:04] <skellington> hello, whats the word for a kind of skipping when i record something using my mic? is it like.. galloping or something, i cant seem to remember it
[05:05] <starcannon> anyone know if freeorion is similar too eveonline?
[05:05] <skellington> it's relevant to my interests
[05:05] <judget_> ok i will try config  my ffmpeg then with --enable liblame then
[05:05] <judget_> robdig did that
[05:05] <starcannon> skellington I call it skipping... jitter perhaps...
[05:05] <DaZ> starcannon: freeorion is a strategy game while eve is... kinda simulator
[05:05] <starcannon> DaZ cool thanks
[05:05] <needhelp1> sebsebseb: yeah the codes matched and i have 1gb
[05:05] <sebsebseb> donald: by default the file system is  Ext3,  but  there's also an optional Ext4 file system, if people set up themselves, but   that isn't normalley recommeded for new users anyway,  because of a few minor issues
[05:06] <Michi_akane> Piet: http://paste.ubuntu.com/173402/
[05:06] <starcannon> DaZ I'm downloading orion now.
[05:06] <skellington> i dont think that was it, there was a specific word that was used in the bug description of whats going on with me, and if i had the word, id be able to find the fix.
[05:06] <Classic> got it?
[05:06] <DaZ> starcannon: as far as i know it doesn't have working ai right now  <:
[05:06] <sebsebseb> donald: did you backup stuff from XP?  just in case something happens?  which is unlikely
[05:06] <donald> so when im finished nothing should happen it should just say donald@donald-laptop:~$
[05:06] <robdig> judget_: do you see something that looks familiar? should begin with lib...
[05:06] <Classic> ye
[05:06] <Classic> now
[05:07] <mauricio> as
[05:07] <donald> ok then i did it right
[05:07] <Classic> gksudo gedit /etc/hal/fdi/policy/11-x11-synaptics.fdi
[05:07] <donald> no i am on a macbook but i did back up
[05:07] <sebsebseb> donald: whoops sent to wrong person
[05:07] <sebsebseb> needhelp1: that was for you see above
[05:07] <imatech1> anybody know ho to invoke the bourne shell?
[05:07] <judget_> all i see is liblame0 and liblame-dev
[05:07] <needhelp1> sebsebseb: i didnt backup
[05:07] <sebsebseb> needhelp1: ok well should be good anyway
[05:07] <robdig> judget_: and apt-get install can't find them?
[05:07] <needhelp1> sebsebseb: kk
[05:08] <iamtechno> Question: How do I make sure that my system is using OpenGL 3.0?
[05:08] <donald> ok a new window popped up
[05:08] <starcannon> DaZ ah :( okies, the Screenies look fantastic
[05:08] <Classic> now very carefully we gonna edit some stuff
[05:08] <sebsebseb> needhelp1: Ext4 hum eh    can always convert  Ext3 to Ext4 anyway once it's more stable
[05:08] <judget_> robdig apt-get install cannot find libmp3lame* in Hardy
[05:08] <sebsebseb> needhelp1: ok  open the installer
[05:08] <sebsebseb> needhelp1: follow that through and when it gets to partitining tell me what it says
[05:09] <juxta> i've somehow ended up with a simbolic link named *
[05:09] <EVil> hi all
[05:09] <juxta> how can i delete it?
[05:09] <skellington> starcannon: i found the fix, i still dont know the word, but now thats irrelevant
[05:09] <robdig> judget_: ok, but you should use liblame0 and liblame-dev since that appears to be what they are called in hardy
[05:09] <exEVil> guys help
[05:09] <losher> skellington: stutter?
[05:09] <iamtechno> Question: How do I make sure that my system is using OpenGL 3.0?
[05:09] <exEVil> tell ru chanel ubuntu
[05:10] <skellington> losher: YES! thats what it was
[05:10] <robdig> !ru | exEVil
[05:10] <judget_> robdig yea but ffmpeg want the libmp3lame
[05:10] <starcannon> skellington cool hehe hate that when I lose a word
[05:10] <robdig> judget_: ah
[05:10] <skellington> starcannon: seriously? guess im not the only one then
[05:10] <judget_> i will build it and see
[05:10] <robdig> judget_: i get it now...
[05:10] <losher> skellington: get used to it. Gets worse with age...
[05:10] <judget_> i think im screwed on m
[05:11] <judget_> screwed on mp3 for now
[05:11] <starcannon> skellington, i'm being nominated to have my pic next to the definition for "what-cha-ma-call-it" lol
[05:11] <Classic> do you have this line there?
[05:11] <Classic>   <merge key="input.x11_options.TapButton1" type="string">1</merge>
[05:11] <needhelp1> sebsebseb: its saying, the installer has detected that the following disks have mounted partitions do you want the installer to try to unmount the paritions on these disks before continunig? If you leave them mounted, you cant create, delete, or resize part on this disk
[05:11] <robdig> judget_: are you using the ffmpeg from the repos? it should be in sync with what is available for that release
[05:11] <needhelp1> but u may be able to install existing partitions there
[05:12] <sebsebseb> needhelp1: yes unmount it
[05:12] <donald> no
[05:12] <skellington> starcannon: lol wow the universal word.
[05:12] <Classic> ok, post line by line that starts with <merge
[05:13] <needhelp1> sebsebseb: ok im there, it says this computer has several operating systems on it
[05:13] <donald> should i jus post the entire thing
[05:13] <sebsebseb> needhelp1: what do you have on it?
[05:13] <needhelp1> where do you want to put ubuntu 9.04
[05:13] <donald> its a few lines
[05:13] <needhelp1> it shows
[05:13] <Classic> yes try that
[05:13] <needhelp1> weird it shows..
[05:13] <donald> <?xml version="1.0" encoding="ISO-8859-1"?>
[05:13] <Conic> Hello, I need help setting up Apache. I want to somehow link a directory somewhere on my filesystem to somewhere in /var/www.
[05:13] <donald> <deviceinfo version="0.2">
[05:13] <donald>   <device>
[05:13] <donald>     <match key="info.capabilities" contains="input.touchpad">
[05:13] <donald>         <merge key="input.x11_driver" type="string">synaptics</merge>
[05:13] <FloodBot1> donald: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:13] <donald>         <!-- Arbitrary options can be passed to the driver using
[05:13] <phenom> !downgrade
[05:13] <sebsebseb> needhelp1: probably got to resize the partitions
[05:13] <phenom> blah
[05:13] <Piet> Michi_akane: i cannot find any obvious reason. you have two misconfigurations in apache: mod_logsql is badly configured (cannot access the database) which could be a cause for apache stalling, though. also, you seem to have something configured pointing to a script or CGI which does not actually exist, but this should not be the cause of your stalls.
[05:13] <joanki123> does anyone know if there is software in the repositories that works like mathematica?
[05:13] <Conic> I get a 403 when using symlinks.
[05:13] <sebsebseb> needhelp1: you can see what acstaul partitiosn you have on there if you open the partition editor   system  > administaration > partition editor
[05:13] <donald> ok some flood bot thing came up
[05:14] <b_u_z_z_the_ugly> hi room
[05:14] <exEVil> help! how update manager forget proxxy settings
[05:14] <exEVil> i use http_proxy in etc/profiles
[05:14] <sebsebseb> donald: yep
[05:14] <losher> donald: you should use pastebin. http://paste.ubuntu.com Might as well start now....
[05:14] <exEVil> for use proxy
[05:14] <needhelp1> sebsebseb: it shows three different colors, it says blue = 9.4 for windows nt/2000/xp  .. then green for microsoft windows xp home edition = 69.3 gigs.. then it shows /dev/sda3 = 70 gigs..and thats an orange color
[05:14] <Piet> Michi_akane: if this system is directly connected to the internet, then you should indeed run a firewall onit normally. i would suggest that you wait until the issue occurs again for now, though.
[05:14] <sebsebseb> needhelp1: ok  the installer it seems we both aren't quite sure heh
[05:15] <sebsebseb> needhelp1: open the partition editor, I just told you how
[05:15] <donald> did Classic get any of wat i sent ?
[05:15] <Classic> ok
[05:15] <Classic> yes
[05:15] <exEVil> then i comment http_proxy but update manager use proxy
[05:15] <Classic> looks just like my file
[05:15] <Piet> Michi_akane: when it occurs again, note down the system time (run 'date' in a terminal)
[05:15] <Michi_akane> Piet: I am having problems right now.  The server was responding for about 5 minutes after I restarted it and now it's stalling again
[05:15] <Classic> one moment
[05:15] <donald> sure
 Try Sage here http://www.sagemath.org/
[05:15] <Michi_akane> Piet: I also can't SSH in ...
[05:16] <imhodes> all 9.04 ?
[05:16] <Michi_akane> Piet: Even though I was able to at first.
[05:16] <Piet> Michi_akane: then look up this date in the apache error log at /var/log/apache2/error.log and in /var/log/daemon.log
[05:16] <sebsebseb> needhelp1: have you got any unalloacted space in the partition editor?
[05:16] <needhelp1> it wont open
[05:16] <sebsebseb> needhelp1: close the installer first
[05:16] <sebsebseb> needhelp1: then open partition editor
[05:17] <needhelp1> ahh
[05:17] <needhelp1> one sec
[05:17] <Piet> Michi_akane: oh ssh doesn't work either. then you don't need to look at the /var/log/apache2/error.log, since it's a system wide issue.
[05:17] <b_u_z_z_the_ugly> i'm trying to get  irfan view to run using wine! I have installed it and the MFC42.dll
[05:17] <losher> donald: while you're waiting, check out http://paste.ubuntu.com
[05:17] <Classic> ok so
[05:17] <donald> ok
[05:17] <b_u_z_z_the_ugly> but nothing happen when the icon is pressed
[05:17] <needhelp1> sebsebseb: nothing unallocated
[05:17] <sebsebseb> b_u_z_z_the_ugly: there are good alternatives,  also  appdb.winehq.org and look for it there,  and  you can  ask in #winehq
[05:17] <sebsebseb> needhelp1: yes that's what I thought
[05:18] <Piet> Michi_akane: your network card is only connected with half duplex, meaning it's max theoretical bandwidth is 10 mbit, not 100 mbit. you can use mii-tool to increase this to 100mbit.
[05:18] <b_u_z_z_the_ugly> thx
[05:18] <sebsebseb> needhelp1: something need to be resized  for space with Ubuntu, but I thought the installer could just do that for you
[05:18] <Classic> donald
[05:18] <lwizardl> hey
[05:18] <donald> yes
[05:18] <sebsebseb> b_u_z_z_the_ugly: ok no problem
[05:18] <Classic> right after         <!-- EXAMPLE:
[05:18] <Classic> on the line after it
[05:18] <sebsebseb> needhelp1:  with the partition editor,  you get full control over your partitions
[05:18] <disappearedng> Hey everyone I did a apt-get install php-config in ubuntu but I can't find it why?
[05:18] <Classic> fresh line that is
[05:19] <Piet> Michi_akane: please also pastebin the following files now: /var/log/messages and /var/log/daemon.log
[05:19] <Classic>   <merge key="input.x11_options.TapButton1" type="string">1</merge>
[05:19] <donald> so make a fresh line under that <!-- EXAMPLE: thing
[05:19] <lwizardl> say I want to make a folder on my ubuntu drive shared with only 1 windows machine (laptop) how would I do this so the rest of the internal network could not see the map point?
[05:19] <Classic> yes
[05:19] <Piet> Michi_akane: sorry for all the pastebinning, ths should be the last one
[05:19] <sebsebseb> needhelp1: you can resize Windows there
[05:19] <Classic> just press enter at the end of it or something
[05:19] <needhelp1> sebsebseb: so.. take a large partition and make it smaller..
[05:19] <donald> im not seeing anything that has tap button in it
[05:19] <needhelp1> that will create unallocated space?
[05:19] <sebsebseb> yes
[05:20] <needhelp1> how big do i need
[05:20] <Classic> you add this line
[05:20] <sebsebseb> why are you keeping Windows by the way?
[05:20] <needhelp1> its not my pc
[05:20] <sebsebseb> maybe you could get by with a  virtual machine :)
[05:20] <sebsebseb> not your PC???
[05:20] <donald> o so im supposed to add the line with tap button in it
[05:20] <Classic> yes
[05:20] <needhelp1> well i bought it.. but its my grandmas
[05:20] <Classic> exact line i posted above
[05:20] <needhelp1> while im over here i have to use it
[05:21] <sebsebseb> needhelp1: oh I see hummm
[05:21] <hphubert> hi
[05:21] <szf> needhelp1: nana cant use linux?
[05:21] <starcannon> joanki123 is Sage kinda what you were looking for?
[05:21] <needhelp1> she cant use windows lol
[05:21] <hphubert> When i install translations in ubuntu server, how can i set it?
[05:21] <losher> szf: play nice, now...
[05:22] <szf> losher: my nana has has linux for 2yrs
[05:22] <Michi_akane> Piet: no.. that's OK.. this is a learning experience for me.
[05:22] <Classic> did it donald?
[05:22] <szf> losher: ok - the kids nana
[05:22] <Classic> or better
[05:22] <donald> so does this line that i typed start at the very left of the document or is it a few spaces over
[05:22] <Michi_akane> Piet: http://paste.ubuntu.com/173405/
[05:22] <losher> szf: :-)
[05:22] <needhelp1> any suggestions sebsebseb
[05:22] <Classic> doesnt matter
[05:22] <sebsebseb> needhelp1: yeah thinking about that
[05:22] <donald> ok well i have it in there
[05:22] <Classic> ok right below it
[05:23] <sebsebseb> needhelp1: so she has some data on Windows???
[05:23] <Michi_akane> Piet: I see a ton of MySQL issues in there.  I couldn't tell if there was anything MySQL related in that update.
[05:23] <Classic>   <merge key="input.x11_options.TapButton2" type="string">3</merge>
[05:23] <sebsebseb> needhelp1: or you do even?
[05:23] <needhelp1> nothing extremely important
[05:23] <KB1JWQ> Heh, anyone have an interesting issue?
[05:23] <dominoeffekt> I can not lower my sound :S Its on Max volume all the time. How can i change that?
[05:23] <Classic> i do KB1JWQ
[05:23] <sebsebseb> needhelp1: well  Ubuntu can save to Windows, but  really you would want to always save stuff in Ubuntu
[05:23] <hphubert> When i install translations in ubuntu server, how can i set it?
[05:24] <sebsebseb> needhelp1: are you converting grandma to  Ubuntu or not?  I mean will she want it removed later on or not?
[05:24] <rich1> hi.  i was messing around and disabled my ati driver and now i can't load x.  i'm using irssi for irc.  how do i enable the ati drivers from the command line, please?
[05:24] <Classic> got it donald?
[05:24] <needhelp1> not converting, and it wont have to be removed
[05:24] <phenomenon> Anyone have any lit/help/links on downgrading back to ibex?
[05:24] <KB1JWQ> Classic: What's the issue?
[05:24] <starcannon> rich1 did you remove the driver, or just mess up the xorg.conf?
[05:24] <donald> yea i got it
[05:25] <Flannel> phenomenon: Reinstall (backup first, obviously)
[05:25] <rich1> starcannon: i'm not sure.  i used envy to disable the driver.
[05:25] <sebsebseb> needhelp1: ok well if that  wasn't the case wubi,  but since you can keep it there  partitining should still be ok
[05:25] <Classic> KB1JWQ, when i try to switch to ttys from gnome my screen starts flashing colored lines and doesnt show vcs
[05:25] <sebsebseb> !wubi | needhlp1
[05:25] <Piet> Michi_akane: your mysql database needs attention, see the daemon.log entries related to mysql. but this is not the cause of the networking problems.
[05:25] <phenomenon> Flannel, unfortunately my cddrive bricked so I am limited on options.
[05:25] <Classic> next line
[05:25] <losher> phenomenon: downgrading isn't really supported. As Flannel says, you were supposed to have made a full backup before you upgraded
[05:25] <needhelp1> so i should take my sda3 drive which is 70 gigs and shrink it to like 30
[05:26] <Classic>   <merge key="input.x11_options.TapButton3" type="string">2</merge>
[05:26] <KB1JWQ> Classic: Your x.org log show anything interesting?
[05:26] <Flannel> phenomenon: You can reinstall from Linux,
[05:26] <needhelp1> and use the new 30 unallocated to install ubuntu
[05:26] <Flannel> !install | phenomenon
[05:26] <Piet> Michi_akane: glad you don't mind about the pastebinning. i assume you're still working on the /var/log/messages one?
[05:26] <Flannel> phenomenon: There's a few methods (see first link) that don't require a CD
[05:26] <Classic> KB1JWQ, no idea, i didnt think to look into it:)
[05:26] <phenomenon> losher, I have my "files" etc backed up. But I am having too many issues with jaunty.
[05:26] <starcannon> rich1 oh, I'll have to pass, I don't use envy or envy-ng I use the hardware driver manager or grab the binary from the website. Generally you'll want to make sure you completely remove a driver before trying to install it again using some other method or script
[05:26] <dominoeffekt> I can not change the volume on my computer. It is on max volume all the time. What should i do?
[05:26] <sebsebseb> needhelp1: maybe, but a default Ubuntu install takes up about 1GB, and  Linux programs usually don't take up that much space, as a result even 16GB  you probably woudn't just fill up, unless you had  actsaul big data files in there
[05:26] <Classic> thanks for advice KB1JWQ
[05:27] <szf> needhelp1: what do you honestly think the effect would be if grama's ubuntu desktop had three icons "Internet" "Mail" "Solitare"?
[05:27] <Piet> Michi_akane: for the future, you can install http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=pastebinit - this makes it easier to pastebin complete files
[05:27] <rich1> starcannon: do you know how the command to call up the hardware driver manager on the command line?
[05:27] <KB1JWQ> Classic: No worries; I'd be curious to know if that helps; past that I'm about out of ideas.
[05:27] <losher> phenomenon: understood. I went back to 8.04 from 9.04 myself...
[05:27] <starcannon> rich1 you could try starting in safe graphics mode, press esc at grub when booting, that will get you a rudimentary gui so you can use mouse firefox etc.. to help you solve your problem
[05:27] <iamtechno> Question: How do I make sure that my system is using OpenGL 3.0?
[05:27] <needhelp1> szf:  i dono, nor do i want to upset nana
[05:27] <donald> ok finished that line
[05:27] <sebsebseb> needhelp1: how old are you by the way?
[05:27] <rich1> starcannon: excellent!!!  thanks, i'll try that!
[05:27] <lwizardl> can someone help me with setting up a private share folder on my ubuntu desktop that my windows laptop can access and upload files onto my ubuntu desktop, I don't want it to be browsable from a network share (its all MP3 files)
[05:28] <starcannon> rich1 gl
[05:28] <Classic> hehe, ill look into it in a few minutes KB1JWQ
[05:28] <iamtechno> !automate
[05:28] <szf> needhelp1: so she can navigate winders
[05:28] <Classic> ok donald, now this
[05:28] <Classic>   <merge key="input.x11_options.HorizTwoFingerScroll" type="string">1</merge>
[05:28] <losher> needhelp1: sounds like wubi might be the way to go for you...
[05:28] <needhelp1> sebsebseb: ive completed a college edu if that helps
[05:28] <Michi_akane> http://paste.ubuntu.com/173408/
[05:28] <sebsebseb> needhelp1: 30GB sounds like a lot for an Ubuntu install that won't  get used that much
[05:28] <sebsebseb> needhelp1: and won't have much data in it
[05:28] <needhelp1> yeah
[05:28] <needhelp1> i agree.. maybe 18 gb?
[05:28] <Classic> dang, my install is 3.3 gb
[05:29] <sebsebseb> needhelp1: yeah, but I am also thinking about the swap space
[05:29] <needhelp1> sebsebseb: swap space?
[05:29] <Michi_akane> Piet: http://paste.ubuntu.com/173408/  -- tnx for the info on the pastebin
[05:29] <calc> i only use 16gb for root and i use it as my only system
[05:29] <sebsebseb> needhelp1: sometimes the installer  can do  way to big swaps,  but if you partition yourself,  you  control the size of that to,  or  you  can  decide not to have one even
[05:29] <g-a-m-e-r-x> hey, how to i run "sudo martian_modem" on startup for my modem drivers?
[05:29] <szf> sebsebseb: needhelp1 create swap as file its good nuff
[05:29] <calc> i have another partition to throw video/etc on
[05:29] <Classic> got it ?
[05:30] <sebsebseb> !swap |  needhelp1
[05:30] <hphubert> When i install translations in ubuntu server, how can i set it?
[05:30] <donald> yup i got it
[05:30] <needhelp1> so its sorta like...
[05:30] <Classic> next
[05:30] <Classic>   <merge key="input.x11_options.HorizScrollDelta" type="string">40</merge>
[05:30] <needhelp1> whats the windows term
[05:30] <sebsebseb> virtual memory
[05:30] <needhelp1> yeah
[05:30] <eseven73> page file
[05:30] <calc> swap is also used to hibernate your system
[05:30] <sebsebseb> I ran on 1GB  RAM without swap for quite a while, and it was good
[05:30] <g-a-m-e-r-x> hey, how to i run "sudo martian_modem" on startup for my modem drivers
[05:30] <needhelp1> so can i shrink the 70 down to 40
[05:31] <calc> so it generally should be the same size as ram if you want to do that
[05:31] <sebsebseb> calc: well if that works
[05:31] <needhelp1> create a 20 gig ubuntu ext3, and a 10 gig swap
[05:31] <sebsebseb> needhelp1: 10gig swap uh no way to big
[05:31] <thiebaude> wow, 10gb
[05:31] <needhelp1> 2 gig swap
[05:31] <sebsebseb> thiebaude: not so wow,  he hasn't installed Ubuntu before I think
[05:31] <starcannon> 10gb of swap holy hades
[05:31] <losher> needhelp1: it's a lot of work if all you're doing is surfing at Nana's. Why not wubi?
[05:31] <Firefishe> Can someone tell me where I can find the .deb file for the amarok 2.1 beta release?
[05:31] <thiebaude> when i see 10gb
[05:31] <g-a-m-e-r-x> hey, how to i run "sudo martian_modem" on startup for my modem drivers
[05:31] <mechdave> needhelp1, How much ram do you have? I generally have similar swap space as to ram
[05:31] <sebsebseb> needhelp1: 2GB  swap only  if hibernate works
[05:31] <calc> sebsebseb: most decent systems sleep/hibernate under linux by now, there are always new moron acpi bios writers though
[05:31] <Firefishe> I'm running Intrepid
[05:32] <sebsebseb> calc: ok well my computer is from March 2007, an sometimes one of those features kind of works or whatever
[05:32] <donald> ok finished that line
[05:32] <Classic> ok, donald, close and save that file
[05:32] <Firefishe> oh feesh...ppa...doh
[05:32] <orange-wedge> i usually put twice the swap to ram
[05:32] <needhelp1> losher: im trying to work with images and video..
[05:32] <orange-wedge> probably over kill
[05:32] <sekyourbox> what if emulated ram as a spot for swap???
[05:32] <needhelp1> i have 2 8 gig sdcards
[05:32] <calc> sebsebseb: my last three laptops (over a 5 year period) all have worked fine
[05:32] <needhelp1> so ill be backing those up and stuff
[05:32] <orange-wedge> but if you run apache
[05:32] <donald> now before i save it, u did say they can all me like smack up against the left side or do they have to be like 6 or 5 spaces away from the left
[05:32] <sebsebseb> needhelp1: 2GB  SWAP or 1GB or don't bother.  and  18GB  for /  that will do it
[05:32] <calc> sebsebseb: from three different vendors, emachines, toshiba, lenovo
[05:32] <needhelp1> cool
[05:33] <starcannon> swap >= to ram you have, if you want to ensure hibernate works.
[05:33] <georgep> I am trying to get a belkin FD7050 wireless usb adapter working properly, seems most of the how twos ive found are out of date, any have this dapter and know how to get it working?
[05:33] <needhelp1> so first shrink the sda3
[05:33] <Classic> dont matter
[05:33] <sebsebseb> calc: ok well  it works properly in Vista, but not Ubuntu, but yeah this computer was made for Vista
[05:33] <donald> ok
[05:33] <szf> needhelp1: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SwapFaq#Example%20of%20making%20a%20swap%20file
[05:33] <Classic> i think once u save it and close ubuntu will format the spaces for you anyways
[05:33] <georgep> I am trying to get a belkin FD7050 wireless usb adapter working properly, seems most of the how twos ive found are out of date, any have this dapter and know how to get it working? <-- Using Jaunty BTW
[05:33] <donald> saved and closed it
[05:33] <szf> needhelp1: skip the partitioning is what i say
[05:33] <Classic> ok
[05:33] <needhelp1> what is the yellow in gparted on teh partitions.. is this system files or just used space on the part?
[05:33] <sekyourbox> ah, cant you get get a big pile of leaves for hybertation?
[05:33] <calc> sebsebseb: file a bug report if you haven't already getting workarounds for laptops is generally a high priority for Ubuntu
[05:33] <g-a-m-e-r-x> hey, how to i run "sudo martian_modem" on startup for my modem drivers
[05:33] <sebsebseb> needhelp1: heh if your going to  be  resizing partitions and such, maybe you should go Ext4 after all :)
[05:34] <Classic> now you need to enable your graphics card
[05:34] <tye> Good evening folks.
[05:34] <donald> ok
[05:34] <starcannon> I read somewhere you need a certain amount of swap for performance reasons as well, even if you never use it, can't remember the why's and wherefore's someone here may know off the top of their head though
[05:34] <orange-wedge> you can run it in /etc/rc.local
[05:34] <needhelp1> ext3 has more features doenst it.. does ext3 do file encryption
[05:34] <sebsebseb> calc: nah this is a desktop
[05:34] <Classic> go to system > administration > hardware drivers
[05:34] <donald> im there
[05:34] <sebsebseb> needhelp1: you need the alternate CD for  file encryption
[05:34] <sebsebseb> needhelp1: partition encryption
[05:34] <Classic> great
[05:34] <orange-wedge> <g-a-m-e-r-x run the command in the file /etc/rc.local
[05:34] <calc> sebsebseb: ah, well even desktops should work but i don't know if it is considered as high a priority
[05:35] <Classic> now what options for graphics cards do u see?
[05:35] <orange-wedge> you won't need the sudoe
[05:35] <losher> needhelp1: encryption. oh, *those* kind of images...
[05:35] <eseven73> !who | Classic
[05:35] <dominoeffekt> I would like to have 2 Desktops. How can i do this?
[05:35] <Classic> and which one is recommended?
[05:35] <needhelp1> losher: lol no
[05:35] <orange-wedge> since that file is run buy root at startup
[05:35] <calc> sebsebseb: all my desktops suspend/resume properly as well, but i'm slowly getting rid of them to just use laptops now
[05:35] <g-a-m-e-r-x> orange-wedge, thanks ill try that now
[05:35] <donald> i see NVIDA graphics driver verison 180 and version 173 and it says 180 is recomended
[05:35] <Piet> Michi_akane: ok, i'm still readoing through the logs, please stand by
[05:35] <needhelp1> so should i do the partitioning?
[05:35] <sebsebseb> needhelp1: ok resize the Windows partition so you get like 20GB  unalloated space
[05:35] <Classic> ok, ubbottu, ill do that
[05:35] <Classic> :)
[05:35] <sebsebseb> needhelp1: then the installer should take care of the rest
[05:35] <donald> and then there is a broadcom STA wireless driver
[05:35] <sekyourbox> 1TB swap
[05:35] <donald> all have grey dots
[05:35] <losher> needhelp1: then I wouldn't  bother encrypting...
[05:36] <needhelp1> sebsebseb: do i need to create a 2 gig swap .. or does the installer do that too?
[05:36] <Loganhoup> Could someone help, When trying to open my pulseaudio volume manager I get "connection failed : connection refused"
[05:36] <Classic> donald, which ones are recommended?
[05:36] <sebsebseb> needhelp1: or you can set up the  swap yourself,  and  maybe an Ext4  /  partiton, but not sure if that's the best thing to recommend to a new user at this stage or not
[05:36] <starcannon> sekyourbox that'd be bare minimum lol
[05:36] <donald> just the nvidia 180 one
[05:36] <starcannon> 2tb of swap just to be extra safe ;)
[05:36] <Michi_akane> Piet: no problem..
[05:36] <g-a-m-e-r-x> orange-wedge, just add "sudo martian_modem to the bottom?
[05:36] <thiebaude> live cd sets the swap automatically
[05:36] <Classic> donald, click on nvidia 180
[05:36] <orange-wedge> yep
[05:36] <donald> ok
[05:36] <orange-wedge> you don't need the sudo
[05:36] <sebsebseb> needhelp1: the installer will  create a  Ext3  /    and  a  swap for you
[05:36] <needhelp1> do i need to set up the swap in Gparted? or does the installer do this?
[05:36] <g-a-m-e-r-x> orange-wedge, or is it auto run as root?
[05:36] <Classic> donald, then click enable
[05:36] <needhelp1> ahh ok thanks
[05:36] <orange-wedge> yep
[05:37] <g-a-m-e-r-x> okat sweet
[05:37] <g-a-m-e-r-x> okay*
[05:37] <donald> i see a button that says activate ?
[05:37] <Classic> yes
[05:37] <sebsebseb> needhelp1: just make the space in gparted
[05:37] <needhelp1> i hope when i shrink the ntfs, it doenst mess up my windows install
[05:37] <rrmm> Does anyone know if I can turn off full harddrive encryption?
[05:37] <Loganhoup> Could someone help, When trying to open my pulseaudio volume manager I get "connection failed : connection refused"
[05:37] <g-a-m-e-r-x> orange-wedge, brb
[05:37] <sebsebseb> needhelp1: yep that probably won't happen
[05:37] <orange-wedge> root will run whatever is in that file after running all the init scripts
[05:37] <sebsebseb> needhelp1: it's XP yes?
[05:37] <sekyourbox> Who here calls Gnome Gee Nome???
[05:37] <starcannon> needhelp1 make sure the ntfs partition is defragged before shrinking it
[05:37] <needhelp1> sebsebseb: yeah its xp
[05:37] <sebsebseb> needhelp1: if it's Vista it might mess up,  if it's XP it should be fien
[05:38] <chetnick> which app to use to open mms links
[05:38] <needhelp1> i defraged the C drive today.. but im going to shrink a differnt partition
[05:38] <sebsebseb> starcannon: I resized  Windows partitions  that weren't defragged without problems  quite a few times
[05:38] <calc> sebsebseb: i've heard it called gah-nome, like gah-new (gnu)
[05:38] <donald> it says it is downloading and installing driver
[05:38] <szf> sekyourbox: i'll bite - Guh-nome
[05:38] <Classic> great
[05:38] <calc> sebsebseb: but never gee-gnome
[05:38] <sebsebseb> calc: what?
[05:38] <donald> its still at 0% though
[05:38] <sekyourbox> jee nome
[05:38] <Classic> its ok
[05:38] <georgep> I am trying to get a belkin FD7050 wireless usb adapter working properly, seems most of the how twos ive found are out of date, any have this dapter and know how to get it working? <-- Using Jaunty BTW
[05:38] <starcannon> sebsebseb ah cool, shouldbe okay then
[05:38] <Classic> give it a moment donald
[05:38] <needhelp1> in windows its drive is D.. so i guess this is a local partition i think the term is
[05:38] <sebsebseb> needhelp1: it should be ok without defragging
[05:38] <disappearedng> any1 here knows what is php-config
[05:39] <donald> ok
[05:39] <Classic> good?
[05:39] <losher> sekyourbox: nome & gah-new
[05:39] <rrmm> Is there a way to disable full harddrive encryption or no?
[05:39] <donald> still at 0
[05:39]  * calc just calls it gnome like the trollish thing
[05:39] <Classic> ah..
[05:39] <Loganhoup> Could someone help, When trying to open my pulseaudio volume manager I get "connection failed : connection refused" A thread I found on the forums told me to manually connect it, how can I do this?
[05:39] <Classic> have a coffee man, Don_Miguel
[05:39] <Classic> sorry, donald
[05:39] <needhelp1> 16340 MIB would = around 16gb right?
[05:39] <donald> ok now its working
[05:39] <donald> its at 83
[05:39] <thiebaude> yes
[05:40] <Loganhoup> needhelp1 16 gb 340 mb
[05:40] <sebsebseb> !who |  thiebaude
[05:40] <calc> needhelp1: 16378 MiB is 16GiB
[05:40]  * Loganhoup sigh
[05:40]  * Loganhoup hates pulseaudio so much.
[05:40] <calc> needhelp1: aka 16 * 2^30
[05:40] <donald> ok its finished and it says that i need to restart to activate the driver
[05:40] <szf> calc, sekyourbox no googling - define the GNOME acronym ;-)
[05:40] <needhelp1> it has a check box for round cylinders
[05:40] <sebsebseb> calc: should he go Ext4 or not?  have you used Ext4?
[05:40] <Don_Miguel> Classic, thanks anyway ...make mine DECAF .. I need to sleep soon !!
[05:40] <calc> szf: gnu network object model enviroment (iirc)
[05:41] <thiebaude> sebsebseb: i use it
[05:41] <needhelp1> sebsebseb: i think ext4 still has some bugs
[05:41] <szf> calc: prize!
[05:41] <calc> szf: but then i've been using linux long before gnome existed :)
[05:41] <Classic> Don_Miguel, hehe, no problem :) 2 milk 2 suger?
[05:41] <needhelp1> or.. quirks should i say
[05:41] <sebsebseb> needhelp1: yes, but not ones that would  effect a clean install
[05:41] <sebsebseb> needhelp1: that is done right
[05:41] <Classic> dont restart yet donald
[05:41] <g-a-m-e-r-x> orange-wedge , its not working
[05:41] <donald> ok
[05:41] <losher> sebsebseb: no-one should use ext4 yet unless they are willing to risk losing the partition
[05:41] <Classic> now broadcom driver, which one is recommended? activate it
[05:41] <sekyourbox> What is the name of that "unsupported" video card utility, for nvidia drivers...?
[05:41] <calc> szf: the pan newsreader is similarly an acronym that they have decided to try to have people forget ;-)
[05:41] <sebsebseb> losher: why do you say that?
[05:42] <Don_Miguel> Classic, and a bit of cocoa .. I am spoiled !
[05:42] <orange-wedge> does the command usually have output?
[05:42] <thiebaude> losher: i've been using it awhile and have no problems with it
[05:42] <donald> ok it says its activated
[05:42] <Loganhoup> Could someone help, When trying to open my pulseaudio volume manager I get "connection failed : connection refused" A thread I found on the forums told me to manually connect it, how can I do this?
[05:42] <orange-wedge> or will it let you know that it failed?
[05:42] <ziroday> sekyourbox: envy?
[05:42] <calc> szf: back when usenet was still common it was the semi-official gnome usenet client and so they decided its acronym was inappropriate
[05:42] <Classic> Don_Miguel, sorry, no cocoa, maybe Second Cup:)
[05:42] <sekyourbox> ziroday, thx
[05:42] <Classic> good, now restart your computer, and see u in a few
[05:42] <rrmm> Is it possible to disable full harddrive encryption?
[05:42] <sebsebseb> thiebaude: yeah I think there's a lot of FUD  (Fear Uncertainity and Doubt) when it comes to  Ext4 still,  to put newbies off just in case something happens
[05:42] <losher> sebsebseb: two people on here claimed their ext4 spontaneously corrupted itself. Why risk it?
[05:43] <donald> ok thanks a bunch Classic
[05:43] <needhelp1> its shrinking it now
[05:43] <sebsebseb> losher: two right, but  about 10 people or more all said Ext4 was good
[05:43] <thiebaude> sebsebseb: yup,  and im using 9.10
[05:43] <Classic> no problem, seeyou shortly
[05:43] <ziroday> sebsebseb: losher: its probably better to take the conversation to #ubuntu-offtopic
[05:43] <sebsebseb> thiebaude: 9.10???   that's not even alpha1 yet is it?
[05:43] <user1> hi
[05:43] <szf> calc: so did the LGPL wash away its final sins? (ducks)
[05:43] <calc> sebsebseb: i might use ext4 with 2.6.30
 its always best to use the full path to the command
[05:43] <needhelp1> ok i have 20gb of unallocated space
[05:43] <thiebaude> sebsebseb: it just made alpha1
[05:43] <sebsebseb> calc: well I am using it when I clean install :)
[05:43] <needhelp1> now should i start the installer?
[05:43] <orange-wedge> so type:  which martian_modem
[05:43] <sebsebseb> needhelp1: yes
[05:44] <g-a-m-e-r-x> orange-wedge, for "martian_modem" what would it be?
[05:44] <calc> szf: hehe, dunno, i liked the former name better myself... pimp ass newsreader (pan) ;-)
[05:44] <sebsebseb> needhelp1: and  make sure it uses the most continugeous free space
[05:44] <Loganhoup> does anyone here know anything about pulseaudio?
[05:44] <needhelp1> hu?
[05:44] <sebsebseb> needhelp1: one of those options will get rid of XP, and you don't want that
[05:44] <calc> sebsebseb: i would probably avoid ext4 for jaunty but it should be stable by the time karmic is released
[05:44] <sebsebseb> needhelp1: read what it says, and you should be ok
[05:44] <Piet> Michi_akane: ok, i've finished reviewing /var/log/messages. apparently linux is not detecting a serious issue (no kernel oopses or bugs). there are two issues though, but i assume (no further research yet) both are not serious:
[05:44] <thiebaude> sebsebseb: now of course when i used the 9.04 alphas there were the intel problems
[05:44] <orange-wedge> yeah run the following from your terminal:  which martian_modem
[05:44] <sebsebseb> thiebaude: well there are still intel problems in the final
[05:44] <user1> !91.10
[05:44] <calc> sebsebseb: at least that is i would stay away if the data in your ubuntu install is important to you
[05:45] <rrmm> how do turn off encryption for my harddrive?
[05:45] <Loganhoup> !9.10
[05:45] <thiebaude> sebsebseb: thats why i had to edit my xorg.conf
[05:45] <zeltak2> hi there, anyone knows of a similar program to rtorrent (in ncurses) for the edonkey network?
[05:45] <sebsebseb> calc: yeay yeah, but  I am going to have it else where  as well,  just to be sure :)
[05:45] <szf> calc: moderan media has toned down the pimp superlative - its prolly fine now
[05:45] <calc> sebsebseb: ext4 hasn't had that much testing yet but should be throughly tested by karmic release
[05:45] <losher> sebsebseb: I'm a big fan of stability when it comes to filesystems...
[05:45] <Piet> Michi_akane: 1. "PCI: Firmware left 0000:01:0c.0 e100 interrupts enabled, disabling". Apparently the NIC's firmware is buggy and does not shut the NIC down cleanly when you reboot or shutdown.
[05:45] <orange-wedge> the next thing you can try is direct the output of the command to file to see whats going on during boot....     martian_modem > /var/log/martian_modem.log
[05:45] <user1> !9.10
[05:45] <Loganhoup> I give up
[05:45] <thiebaude> ext4 is an option on the 9.04 live cd
[05:45] <sebsebseb> thiebaude: yes
[05:46] <Michi_akane> Piet: Thanks.. the problem right now is intermittent...  I have been able to use the server but then it will no longer function.
[05:46] <needhelp1> sebsebseb: the two options i see is, use the largest continous free space or specify partitions manaully.. i want to specifiy?
[05:46] <iamtechno> !10.4
[05:46] <sebsebseb> needhelp1: manual install you mean?
[05:46] <iamtechno> !6.06
[05:46] <Piet> Michi_akane: 2. "ACPI Exception (processor_core-0822): AE_NOT_FOUND, Processor Device is not present [20070126]". Linux thinks that your BIOS reports a device which does not actually exist. This is usually caused by BIOS bugs and can sometimes be fixed by BIOS upgrades.
[05:46] <sebsebseb> needhelp1: use largest  continous free space
 what was the output of :  which martian_modem
[05:46] <ziroday> !msgthebot > iamtechno
[05:46] <donald> ok im back
[05:47] <Vesayth> Hello. I'm looking for some assistance with configuring openvpn server. I'm using Ubuntu 8.10 64-bit, and followed the guide on this page: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VPNServer#Configuring%20OpenVPN. When I try to start openvpn, I get the error * Autostarting VPN 'openvpn' [fail]. Can anyone help?
[05:47] <Classic> any improvements donald
[05:47] <needhelp1> sebsebseb: wouldnt that be my other partition with windows on it. its larger than my unallocated ?
[05:47] <rrmm> ubottu: tell rrmm about encryption
[05:47] <ziroday> Vesayth: does sudo service openvpn start work?
[05:47] <iamtechno> ziroday, got it
[05:47] <sebsebseb> needhelp1: it means your unallocated space I belive
[05:47] <ziroday> iamtechno: :)
[05:47] <g-a-m-e-r-x> orange -wedge, thats the command i should use?
[05:47] <Vesayth> ziroday: same error
[05:47] <donald> well it is cooler than wat it was
[05:47] <Piet> Michi_akane: when ssh connections and apache stall, can you still access them via <IP_ADDRESS>?
[05:47] <imhodes> Any BRs here ?
[05:47] <donald> i can actually hear the fan
[05:47] <ziroday> Vesayth: try do just openvpn
[05:47] <needhelp1> can anyone else clarifiy which setting i should chose just in case?
[05:47] <orange-wedge> run:  "which martian_modem"
[05:48] <donald> but the trackpad doesnt work and i didnt test wireless yet
[05:48] <Piet> Michi_akane: this would be of interest since this does not go over your physical NIC.
[05:48] <donald> and neither does the sound
[05:48] <Classic> hehe great stuff Don_Miguel
[05:48] <Classic> :)
[05:48] <MTecknology> iamtechno: -_-
[05:48] <Classic> donald,
[05:48] <orange-wedge> it will tell you where the actual script is located
[05:48] <sebsebseb> needhelp1: even if there's free space on a partition, that is still  well partiotned space and so not contingous free space
[05:48] <donald> yese
[05:48] <Piet> Michi_akane: what I assume is happening is simply that your bandwidth is saturated.
[05:48] <g-a-m-e-r-x> oangge-wedge , domenic@meia-linux:~$ which martian_modem
[05:48] <g-a-m-e-r-x> /usr/sbin/martian_modem
[05:48] <Classic> touchpad?
[05:48] <orange-wedge> awesome
[05:48] <kismet> gud day sirs! im newbi here, i would like to ask about my problem with ubuntu 9.10 desktop. i installed vbox from jaunty repositories. i noticed that when i guest os starts or shutsdown sometimes gnome logs off.
[05:48] <Piet> Michi_akane: another explanation would be a faulty NIC
[05:48] <Vesayth> ziroday: openvpn gives me a long list of options
[05:48] <donald> or the trackpad i mean
[05:48] <ziroday> kismet: err 9.10 or 9.04?
[05:48] <Classic> works?
[05:49] <sebsebseb> !dualboot |  needhelp1
[05:49] <iamtechno> Didn't know it was a taboo to question ubottu
[05:49] <Vesayth> ziroday: I may have configured something wrong, though I'm not sure what it may be
[05:49] <orange-wedge> now modify the rc.local file to have:   /usr/sbin/martian_modem > /var/log/martian_modem.log
[05:49] <Piet> Michi_akane: if you have another, ideally more modern, NIC, then it would be worth replacing/adding that.
[05:49] <Vesayth> ziroday: I followed the guy to the T
[05:49] <Michi_akane> Piet: Yes I can definitely access from the localhost.   The machines are connected through a LAN so bandwidth should not be an issue.
[05:49] <ziroday> Vesayth: err I can't remember the exact syntax, one sec
[05:49] <sebsebseb> thiebaude: alpha1 ah right
[05:49] <donald> well it works but i cant do the two finger scroll or scroll at all
[05:49] <Vesayth> guide*
[05:49] <sekyourbox> What about ubuntu 10.2SR ??
[05:49] <kismet> ziroday: im sorry i mean 9.04
[05:49] <g-a-m-e-r-x> orange-wedge, and reboot?
[05:49] <donald> but i can click and move the cursor
[05:49] <thiebaude> sebsebseb: yes
[05:49] <donald> all i really need now is the sound
[05:49] <sekyourbox> you can get it on the torrents
[05:49] <thiebaude> im dual booting
[05:50] <ziroday> Vesayth: do sudo openvpn --config-file /path/to/config/file
[05:50] <orange-wedge> g-a-m-e-r-x does the command usually have any output?
[05:50] <Classic> donald, hm..... at this time I cant help you with that, since i dont have a macbook
[05:50] <Piet> Michi_akane: so nobody is accessing this server from the internet?
[05:50] <ziroday> Vesayth: and sorry I have to run
[05:50] <sebsebseb> needhelp1: if your not sure about installer,   you can do it the other way.   gparted  and  manual install,  or maybe just manual install.   altough  when I partition  I do the first bit  in  gparted and then finnish off in manual install
[05:50] <Michi_akane> Piet: you don't think there was something in those updates that may have impacted my NIC?
[05:50] <sebsebseb> thiebaude: surely it's very similar to 9.04?
[05:50] <donald> well its ok u solved my biggest problem of getting the fan to work
[05:50] <Vesayth> ziroday: I have the config file open
[05:50] <rrmm> can i turn off full harddrive encryption?
[05:50] <g-a-m-e-r-x> orange-wedge, yeah and it has to run the whole time the computer is on
[05:50] <Michi_akane> Piet: Yes... the box is open to the net.  But my testing is coming from inside the LAN.
[05:51] <Piet> Michi_akane: it doesn't seem so to me.
[05:51] <kismet> gud day sirs! im newbi here, i would like to ask about my problem with ubuntu 9.04 desktop. i installed vbox from jaunty repositories. i noticed that when i guest os starts or shutsdown sometimes gnome logs off.
[05:51] <Piet> Michi_akane: what is your ISP connections' bandwidth (upstream/downstream)?
[05:51] <Classic> donald, check if you have sound
[05:51] <thiebaude> sebsebseb: when i edited xorg.conf in 9.04 that fixed my problem and the fix carried over to 9.10
[05:51] <g-a-m-e-r-x> orange-wedge, it just says loaded and runnign dosent require input
[05:51] <Piet> Michi_akane: brb bathroom
[05:51] <sebsebseb> thiebaude: ok sounds good
[05:51] <donald> i can controle the volume but i hear no sound
[05:51] <orange-wedge> ok cool
[05:51] <orange-wedge> yeah try a reboot
[05:51] <thiebaude> sebsebseb: added "DR" and "off" to the device section
[05:51] <Classic> ok
[05:51] <Classic> then will do the sound
[05:51] <thiebaude> DRI
[05:51] <g-a-m-e-r-x> orange-wedge, okay brb
[05:51] <Classic> gksudo gedit /etc/modprobe.d/options
[05:52] <sebsebseb> thiebaude: I find  xorg a pain in the arse,  still after these years
[05:52] <thiebaude> sebsebseb: soo true mate
[05:52] <sebsebseb> thiebaude: luckily  I got a driver  available that just works :)   nivida one
[05:52] <thiebaude> sebsebseb: i fixed 9.04 2 days before final
[05:52] <losher> Classic: where did you learn all that stuff about "<merge-keys...."?
[05:53] <donald> ok a window popped up with this in it
[05:53] <sebsebseb> thiebaude: we are off topic hum
[05:53] <Vesayth> Can anyone else possibly assist me with setting up OpenVPN server? Recap: Using Ubuntu 8.10 64-bit andfollowed the guide here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VPNServer#Configuring%20OpenVPN. I'm getting the error * Autostarting VPN 'openvpn' [fail]
[05:53] <thiebaude> sebsebseb: i think i got the fix from the ubuntu web site
[05:53] <donald> options snd_hda_intel model=mbp3
[05:53] <thiebaude> !ot
[05:53] <thiebaude> thanks
[05:53] <kismet> sirs, is virtualbox for jaunty stable?
[05:53] <Classic> losher, theres a guide online for macbook
[05:53] <Michi_akane> Piet: 1.5mb downstream / 894k upstream
[05:53] <Classic> its copy paste from there
[05:53] <pan_> youtube is not even loud
[05:53] <pan_> i have the volume all the way up
[05:53] <Classic> ok donald
[05:53] <pan_> on youtube
[05:53] <losher> Classic: ah, donald, did you know about that?
[05:53] <pan_> what the hell is going on here.
[05:54] <Zaher> Hi, Anyone can help me to find the most valuable applications for ubuntu??
[05:54] <needhelp1> sebsebseb: im confused now.. its asking me again
[05:54] <donald> yea but i dont get the etc/modle stuff or watever it is like that but after doing this hopefully ill learn something
[05:54] <Classic> its his guide just there were no repositories so we had to figure out how to make it work with launchpad
[05:54] <imhodes> Hi, I hav problem in my ubuntu 9.04, i hav updated few weeks ago and my keyboard loss the support to Brazilian characters. like this `` ~~~
[05:54] <thiebaude> sebsebseb: have a good nite
[05:54] <losher> Classic, donald: impressive work between the 2 of you, still.
[05:55] <needhelp1> where do you want to put ubuntu ; install them side by side chosing between them at each startup, use the entire disk, use the largest continous free space, manual
[05:55] <rrmm> can i turn off full drive encryption?
[05:55] <Piet> Michi_akane: hmm ok so it's not the bandwidth getting saturated. the next steps now would be to try replacing the nic, or if you have no replacement nic, to analyze your network traffic.
[05:55] <donald> o wait, classic, i can just go to the site and because i have that repos stuff i should be able to do it on my own now?
[05:55] <sebsebseb> needhelp1: install side by side that should do it
[05:55] <Classic> losher, thanks mate, im noob as well, just know i can help donald
[05:55] <needhelp1> sebsebseb: does this still put it in the unallocated i set up? or no?
[05:55] <Piet> Michi_akane: but first of all i'll review the updates, so we can rule those out as a cause
[05:55] <Piet> Michi_akane: ...again ;-)
[05:56] <Classic> yes, donald, scroll down to sound and follow from there
[05:56] <sebsebseb> needhelp1: or bugger that and do it my way
[05:56] <donald> ok
[05:56] <Classic> :)
[05:56] <sebsebseb> needhelp1: I thought using the installer would be easier, but maybe not quite  in your case
[05:57] <donald> im there
[05:57] <rrmm> can i turn off full harddrive encryption?
[05:57] <georgep> if i want to purge ndis wrapper from my system how do I do it? I installed it with apt-get
[05:57] <Michi_akane> Piet: seriously... thanks for your help.  This is one that I was on the virge of pulling out all of my red hair.  It just got over me.
[05:57] <Classic> donald, your on your own now :)
[05:57] <sebsebseb> calc: swap  space needs to be double the size of the RAM for hibernation/sleep ?
[05:57] <donald> ok thank you so much Classic
[05:58] <Classic> you're welcome
[05:58] <donald> cya
[05:58] <robdig> Zaher: check out https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Applications or http://lifehacker.com/software/lifehacker-top-10/top-10-ubuntu-applications-265052.php or http://ubuntuapplications.blogspot.com/2007/08/top-26-ubuntu-application-sources.html
[05:58] <Classic> bb
[05:58] <georgep> if i want to purge ndis wrapper from my system how do I do it? I installed it with apt-get
[05:58] <unkmar> so swap space is used for hibernation?
[05:58] <Classic> now..... ttys
[05:58] <sebsebseb> needhelp1: half an hour or so on partitining hummm, when it can be done in like  5 minutes  a good partition set up
[05:58] <Classic> GUYS, anyone have same problem of not being able to access ttys from gnome?
[05:59] <g-a-m-e-r-x> orange-wedge, nup still not working
[05:59] <_-RED-_> hdd died on live cd this sucks
[05:59] <needhelp1> sebsebseb: well selecting "use the largest continuous" i have to slide a little marker that i guess says how much space i want.. but it goes past the 20 gigs i set up as unallocated
[05:59] <imhodes> Hi, I hav problem in my ubuntu 9.04, i hav updated few weeks ago and my keyboard loss the support to Brazilian characters. like this `` ~~~
[05:59] <orange-wedge> can you cat /var/log/martian_modem.log
[05:59] <sebsebseb> needhelp1: do it my way if you want.    step 1   make partitiosn in gparted   step 2.  format them in manual install and decide what to use them for
[05:59] <orange-wedge> what's it say?
[05:59] <needhelp1> i can go into the sda3.. up to 60 gigs deep in
[06:00] <sebsebseb> needhelp1: uh ok,   close that, you'll do it my way :)  and  you will be installing in like 5 minutes I think
[06:00] <unkmar> I have the 9.04 i386 live iso.  I would like to create a bootable USB without burning the ISO to CD and booting from the live CD.
[06:00] <needhelp1> so close the installer?
[06:00] <sebsebseb> yes
[06:00] <orange-wedge> g-a-m-e-r-x...  i did find this page on how to get to come during boot.... you could add modprobe martian_dev
[06:00] <_-RED-_> ok i have a ? when will ubuntu 9.04 support ati express 200 and 200m lol
[06:00] <needhelp1> ok
[06:00] <orange-wedge> http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-332947.html
[06:00] <g-a-m-e-r-x> orange-wedge, theres not /var/log/martian_modem?
[06:00] <needhelp1> im out
[06:00] <sebsebseb> open  the partition editor again
[06:00] <orange-wedge> /var/log/martian_modem.log
[06:00] <needhelp1> ok its open
[06:01] <rrmm> can i dd my decryted drive to a file and then dd it back or no?
[06:01] <dfcnvt> imhodes, Set it up again for Brazilian's character
[06:01] <sebsebseb> needhelp1: make a  partiiton that is  18gb   and   put  ext3 as the file system   or ext4 if you like
[06:01] <orange-wedge> there's a couple methods that thread used
[06:01] <g-a-m-e-r-x> orange-wedge, theres no log?
[06:01] <orange-wedge> ok
[06:01] <sebsebseb> needhelp1: all you got to do is type in the  number  in size.   and  yeah
[06:01] <needhelp1> leaving the other 2gb for swap?
[06:01] <sebsebseb> yes exactly
[06:02] <needhelp1> ill right click the unallocated
[06:02] <needhelp1> and
[06:02] <sebsebseb> and then the partition editor  shows you what will happen simulates it, before you press apply
[06:02] <needhelp1> click new?
[06:02] <Skript101> Whats the shipit website to get ubuntu delivered free?
[06:02] <sebsebseb> yes you press new
[06:02] <_-RED-_> bye have to goto work
[06:02] <g-a-m-e-r-x> orange-wedge, minicom still gets minicom: cannot open /dev/ttySM0: No such file or directory
[06:02] <sebsebseb> Skript101: shipit.ubuntu.com
[06:02] <g-a-m-e-r-x> orange-wedge, but after  "sudo martian_modem" it works fine
[06:02] <RHorse> gpg
[06:02] <needhelp1> should i leave space for the swap at the begging of the partition or the end?
[06:02] <Skript101> Help plz?
[06:02] <calc> sebsebseb: i don't think it has to be double but i'm not sure exactly how much is required
[06:03] <Piet> Michi_akane: you're welcome
[06:03] <sebsebseb> needhelp1: you want your acstaul partition to be  first  I think
[06:03] <calc> sebsebseb: ram is compressed to swap during hibernation
[06:03] <sebsebseb> needhelp1: a swap second
[06:03] <orange-wedge> echo martian_dev | sudo tee -a /etc/modules
[06:03] <orange-wedge> you could try that
[06:03] <Piet> Michi_akane: i'm compiling a more readable list of all updated, installed and removed packages now.
[06:03] <sebsebseb> calc: 2GB is a good size for swap  for 1GB RAM?
[06:03] <needhelp1> what class do i want to create it as
[06:03] <Skript101> So http://www.shipit.ubuntu.com?
[06:04] <needhelp1> not primary right? because my primary is the ntfs windows part
[06:04] <needhelp1> ?
[06:04] <Michi_akane> Piet: thanks. :)
[06:04] <g-a-m-e-r-x> orange-wedge it ruturns "martian_dev
[06:04] <calc> sebsebseb: yea 2x is fine, anything more than that is overkill
[06:04] <sebsebseb> needhelp1: yes  make   the ext3 primary
[06:04] <imhodes> dfcnvt: the proble is my keyboard layout is USA, and when i push buttons like ``````~~~~~ this not saving on keyboard cache
[06:04] <g-a-m-e-r-x> orange-wedge it ruturns "martian_dev"
[06:04] <dfcnvt> https://shipit.ubuntu.com
[06:04] <SanDiego> hello
[06:04] <Skript101> Well is it that?
[06:04] <orange-wedge> yeah you need to run that full line
[06:04] <sebsebseb> needhelp1: if you got 4 partitions or some such on a drive,  you need to make an extended
[06:04] <needhelp1> sebsebseb: primary doesnt mean its the primary partition to boot does it?
[06:04] <orange-wedge> it should add martian_dev to /etc/modules
[06:05] <sebsebseb> calc: can you answer that question :)
[06:05] <needhelp1> its showing i have 4 partitions now
[06:05] <needhelp1> not counted the two im about to make
[06:05] <calc> primary is main partitions of which using a dos mbr you can only have 4 on a drive
[06:05] <g-a-m-e-r-x> orange-wedge, what, i put that echo this into command and it came back with that other line so whitch bit do you mean to put into where?
[06:05] <sebsebseb> needhelp1: two??
[06:05] <calc> the others are inside extended partition and are called logical partitions
[06:05] <needhelp1> the 18 for ubuntu and 2 for swap
[06:05] <needhelp1> gb
[06:05] <Skript101> Oh yes, and would it fit on my 4gb flash drive with virtual machine on it too
[06:05] <Skript101> ?
[06:06] <calc> the last time i partitioned my system i just used GPT instead of MBR
[06:06] <needhelp1> it shows right now i have sda1 sda2 sda3 and unallocated
[06:06] <sebsebseb> calc: what's GPT?
[06:06] <orange-wedge> echo martian_dev | sudo tee -a /etc/modules
[06:06] <orange-wedge> run that full line
[06:06] <sebsebseb> needhelp1: yeah 18GB     Ext3 file system and swap
[06:06] <calc> sebsebseb: the replacement for dos mbr, used by EFI (replacement for BIOS)
[06:06] <g-a-m-e-r-x> orange-wedge, so all i need to add is "martian_dev" to my rc.local file?
[06:06] <dfcnvt> imhodes: I'm not sure what to do.. reset your keyboard? clean up cache? the search for Braizel character to fix this exception
[06:06] <needhelp1> that will give me 5 partitions
[06:06] <lvlefisto> pidgin is so slow to respond since i upgraded to jaunty, is there a way to solve this?
[06:06] <orange-wedge> nah your /etc/modules file
[06:06] <sebsebseb> needhelp1: in fact that's manual install where you will say what to use the partition as
[06:06] <dfcnvt> then go***
[06:06] <calc> sebsebseb: grub can also boot a system using GPT even if you don't have EFI
[06:06] <orange-wedge> trying another approach
[06:07] <Skript101> Hell0?
[06:07] <sebsebseb> calc: ah ok
[06:07] <dfcnvt> man, I'm tired..
[06:07] <xangua> lvlefisto: slow ¿¿ mine is not, slow in what exactly ¿¿
[06:07] <SanDiego> hi there
[06:07] <g-a-m-e-r-x> orange-wedge, so add echo martian_dev | sudo tee -a /etc/modules to my rc.local?
[06:07] <calc> sebsebseb: and it lets you make more or less as many partitions as you want at single sector increments in size
[06:07] <Skript101> brb
[06:07] <g-a-m-e-r-x> no sorry
[06:07] <sebsebseb> dfcnvt: I kind of should be, but I am not
[06:07] <g-a-m-e-r-x> /etc/modules
[06:07] <needhelp1> calc: so am i ok?
[06:07] <Classic> later all
[06:07] <needhelp1> with 5 partitions?
[06:07] <lvlefisto> xangua: i double click a contact and it takes a half a minute to open the conversation window
[06:08] <calc> needhelp1: for 5 partitions you need at least a extended and logical or two
[06:08] <imhodes> when u push button ~ what happen ?
[06:08] <g-a-m-e-r-x> ~~
[06:08] <needhelp1> im lost now
[06:08] <g-a-m-e-r-x> or ``
[06:08] <g-a-m-e-r-x> `
[06:08] <xangua> lvlefisto: a half minute ¿?!!! in what protocol ¿¿¿
[06:08] <g-a-m-e-r-x> ~`
[06:08] <sebsebseb> needhelp1: just make 18GB ext3 and the 2gb swap
[06:08] <calc> needhelp1: eg sda1 sda2 sda3 then a sda4 extended with sda5 and sda6 being logical
[06:08] <imhodes> 2 times to appear ?
[06:08] <lvlefisto> xangua: each protocol
[06:08] <g-a-m-e-r-x> imhodes, no
[06:08] <lvlefisto> i use almost all protocols
[06:09] <orange-wedge> just add "martian_dev" to your /etc/modules file
[06:09] <needhelp1> so make the 18 gb partition for ubuntu extended?
[06:09] <imhodes> my problem is one time xD
[06:09] <g-a-m-e-r-x> imhodes, i have heard of it typing twice but im not sure wy it does that
[06:09] <sebsebseb> needhelp1: it will tell you if you need an extended or not
[06:09] <calc> needhelp1: if you have more than 4 partitions you must have one of the 4 'primary' ones designated as an extended partition
[06:09] <g-a-m-e-r-x> imhodes, just type it twice?
[06:09] <lvlefisto> xangua: when i was using intrepid it didn't take that longer
[06:09] <imhodes> i`m brazilian and i need to put this over a
[06:10] <rrmm> can i turn off full harddrive encryption?
[06:10] <imhodes> but when i try just appear something like this ~a hahaha
[06:10] <needhelp1> calc: what would happen if i tried it as primary
[06:10] <calc> needhelp1: the dos mbr only has space for 4 partitions which is considered the 'primary' ones, logical partitions are basically a linked list across the drive with the 'extended' partition being in one of the 4 spots in the mbr linking to the first logical parititon on the drive
[06:10] <g-a-m-e-r-x> imhodes, yeah but just use like character map or something
[06:10] <lvlefisto> xangua: i'll try with a clean ~/.purple dir
[06:10] <sebsebseb> needhelp1: the ext3 is priamry
[06:10] <g-a-m-e-r-x> !language | imhodes
[06:10] <calc> needhelp1: you can't make 5 primary partitions there isn't enough space in the MBR layout to do it, period
[06:11] <sebsebseb> needhelp1: partition editor will tell you if you need to make an extended
[06:11] <g-a-m-e-r-x>  !region | imhodes
[06:11] <g-a-m-e-r-x>  !accents | imhodes
[06:11] <needhelp1> it doesnt tell me what the current partitoins are.. like if they are primary or extended
[06:11] <needhelp1> how can i tell?
[06:11] <imhodes> !region
[06:11] <dfcnvt> imhodes: go join in hardware channel.. maybe they'll help.. just state that you have the keyboard problem
[06:11] <calc> needhelp1: sda1-4 are always primary
[06:11] <calc> needhelp1: sda5+ as logical
[06:11] <g-a-m-e-r-x> yeah
[06:11] <sebsebseb> calc: he is new,  he hasn't done this before, your probably just confussing him
[06:12] <needhelp1> right now i have sda 1-3
[06:12] <dfcnvt> imhodes: maybe it's a key map that you need to reconfigure?
[06:12] <calc> sebsebseb: yea, i should just shutup :)
[06:12] <g-a-m-e-r-x> mabye
[06:12] <needhelp1> so couldnt i do the 18 ext3 as primary for sda4
[06:12] <calc> needhelp1: those are primary then
[06:12] <needhelp1> and teh swap
[06:12] <needhelp1> ?
[06:12] <g-a-m-e-r-x> brb all!
[06:12] <sebsebseb> calc: all   I want him to do is make  a  18GB  Ext3    and 2GB SWAP  in  partition editor,  then  format and   that  in  manual install
[06:12] <rrmm> can i turn off full harddrive encryption?
[06:12] <calc> sebsebseb: heh
[06:12] <robdig> imhodes: perhaps someone on #ubuntu-br has experience with your issue
[06:12]  * calc has to go to bed anyway, getting late here
[06:12] <sebsebseb> calc: I thought  the actsaul installer would be easier
[06:13] <sebsebseb> calc: but nope
[06:13] <imhodes> oh thanks i forgot this xD
[06:13] <sebsebseb> calc: in fact I am not sure which one would be easier
[06:13]  * calc will be happy when mbr dies
[06:13] <SAngeli> Hi, I run ubuntu on virtualbox. I upgraded both vbox and ubuntu to latest version. I fail to install Guest-Additions as fail to mount the ISO file. Can someone please help me doing so?
[06:13] <sebsebseb> needhelp1: yes make the 18GB   and  then  press new again and do a swap
[06:13] <sebsebseb> needhelp1: if you need to make an extended so be it
[06:14] <rrmm> ok thanks for the amazing service as usual #ubuntu
[06:14] <sebsebseb> SAngeli: I hope that's only for trying Ubuntu
[06:15] <jamesbrink> hello, i just setup a connection under mobile broadband under the network connections dialog box on gnome (ubuntu 9) can anyone tell me how i connect to this network now?
[06:15] <g-a-m-e-r-x> orange-wedge, still not working
[06:15] <SAngeli> sebsebseb, do you advice something better for hosting ubuntu? Besides, do you have any advice?
[06:15] <jamesbrink> i have loaded the blackberry rim drivers
[06:15] <orange-wedge> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=804378
[06:15] <sebsebseb> SAngeli: it's better to partition your hard disk for real :)
[06:15] <needhelp1> calc: so should i make the 18 gb partions sda4?
[06:15] <sebsebseb> !dualboot |  SAngeli
[06:15] <adi_> helo how to flash instalation in my ubuntu
[06:15] <sebsebseb> needhelp1: ah sda  and all that
[06:15] <orange-wedge> lets get rid of the /etc/modules edit
[06:15] <sebsebseb> needhelp1: how many hard disks you got in there?
[06:15] <needhelp1> one i think
[06:16] <orange-wedge> and add these two lines to the /etc/rc.local
[06:16] <needhelp1> its just split for some reason
[06:16] <SAngeli> sebsebseb, yes, I have done this several times. But with dual boot I cannot have ubuntu and another OS running at the same time, correct?
[06:16] <sebsebseb> needhelp1: just  make a the Ext3 in your unallocated space and  then that remaining unallocated space is your swap
[06:16] <orange-wedge> /sbin/modprobe martian_dev
[06:16] <orange-wedge> martian_modem
[06:16] <adi_> I am first ubuntu using
[06:16] <orange-wedge> first the modprobe
[06:16] <orange-wedge> thent the martian_modem
[06:16] <needhelp1> do i need to fill in teh label field sebsebseb?
[06:16] <sebsebseb> SAngeli: indeed, but   realy Windows inside Ubuntu is better :)   unless  you want 3D windows gaming or some such
[06:16] <sebsebseb> needhelp1: no leave that blank
[06:17] <needhelp1> ok
[06:17] <orange-wedge> man sorry for all the reboots
[06:17] <SAngeli> sebsebseb, unless I find an old PC, install ubuntu and then run it via netwrok
[06:17] <cybotron__> hello
[06:17] <needhelp1> do i need to make the 2 gig into swap
[06:17] <needhelp1> ?
[06:17] <sebsebseb> yes
[06:17] <needhelp1> or is that automatic?
[06:17] <SAngeli> sebsebseb, anyhow, could you please help me out if you have any advice?
[06:17] <Piet> Michi_akane: http://paste.ubuntu.com/173422/
[06:17] <sebsebseb> yes make the 2gb into swap
[06:17] <Piet> Michi_akane: what may matter is that acpid was upgraded
[06:17] <needhelp1> that will have to be extended
[06:17] <needhelp1> is that bad?
[06:17] <sebsebseb> should be ok I guess
[06:18] <sebsebseb> altough normalley  Ubuntu's partiion would be in some extended partition I think
[06:18] <cybotron__> hi anyone know why gparted cant resize?
[06:18] <needhelp1> crap
[06:18] <needhelp1> it wont let me
[06:18] <needhelp1> it says i cant have more than 4 primarys
[06:18] <adi_> ok thanks I will try it is
[06:18] <sebsebseb> cybotron__: ,beause it can,  as long as your partitions are unmounted
[06:18] <sebsebseb> needhelp1: it will be fien
[06:18] <Piet> Michi_akane: linux, too, but since you already tested this issue against the previous kernel version we can rule this out.
[06:18] <sebsebseb> needhelp1: swap in extended should be ok
[06:18] <needhelp1> what do you mean?
[06:19] <needhelp1> i dont know if it will let me make an extended
[06:19] <needhelp1> or i dont know how
[06:19] <cybotron__> sebsebseb i unmounted the partition but it cant be resized
[06:19] <sebsebseb> needhelp1: bugger swap if nessarey,   it's not really needed as such anyway
[06:20] <needhelp1> i dont follow.. bugger swap?
[06:20] <sebsebseb> needhelp1: I am trying to make this easier for you and that
[06:20] <Skript101> Is there any way i can get ubuntu delivered without shipit, for free?
[06:20] <needhelp1> like.. when i click new on teh 2gb.. it wont let me pick extended
[06:21] <needhelp1> it just says i cant pick anythin
[06:21] <ziroday> Skript101: talk to your loco
[06:21] <sebsebseb> needhelp1: ok show me a screenshot of gparted
[06:21] <needhelp1> do i need to apply the new partition first?
[06:21] <needhelp1> then make an extended?
[06:21]  * Skript101 is lagging
[06:21] <cybotron__> or how to mount back with fuse? cause gparted doesnt let me do it
[06:21] <Michi_akane> Piet: I ran under the previous kernel to the same problems.  What about this acpid?  That appears to be some kind of power management daemon...
[06:21] <sebsebseb> needhelp1: yes you need to apply  a partition, before it gets created
[06:21]  * Skript101 s internet is slow
[06:21] <needhelp1> then i can create teh extended?
[06:22] <sebsebseb> the extended could contain  both  the ext3 and swap
[06:22] <Vesayth> Can anyone assist me in configuring OpenVPN server? I'm running Ubuntu 8.10 64-bit and trying to follow this guide with no success: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VPNServer#Configuring%20OpenVPN
[06:22] <Skript101> ziroday:whats loco?
[06:22] <ericjoseph> is it possible to install ubuntu server from an 8.1 live cd?
[06:22] <Piet> Michi_akane: Michi_akane yes, it's a bit more than that actually, it also handles aout IRQ usage between the bios and linux
[06:22] <ziroday> Skript101: what country are you in?
[06:22] <orange-wedge> eric... i don't think so
[06:22] <ziroday> Vesayth: did what I gave you work?
[06:22] <Vesayth> ziroday: negative
[06:23]  * Skript101 LAG
[06:23] <ziroday> Vesayth: errors?
[06:23] <Vesayth> ziroday: I suspect there is something wrong with either the config file or my iptables
[06:23] <Piet> Michi_akane: acpi= advanced configuration and power interface
[06:23] <orange-wedge> or at least it would be alot more headache than its worth
[06:23] <CoJaBo-Aztec> Once the service is purchased by a primary Comcast account holder, everyone in the family can use the service with their own individual "lockers," though their use contributes to the storage total. If the Comcast broadband account is canceled, users have fourteen days b
[06:23] <orange-wedge> you could build a custom boot cd
[06:23] <ziroday> CoJaBo-Aztec: ?
[06:23] <orange-wedge> from the livecd
[06:23] <ziroday> Vesayth: what was the specific error?
[06:23] <Skript101> ziroday:look
[06:23] <sebsebseb> needhelp1: all this ah,   the installer options would have done it
[06:23] <needhelp1> sebsebseb: ok i made teh sda4 ext3.. now when i click new on teh 2gb unallocated i get this  "its not possible to create more than 4 primary partitions.
[06:24] <ziroday> Skript101: err can't you just tell me?
[06:24] <CoJaBo-Aztec> ziroday: Yeah, it pastes when I bump the touchpad. :/ Any idea how to fix that?
[06:24] <Piet> Michi_akane: it controls the power saving features, too, which means providing less power to devices, making them fall asleep etc. this can cause such issues, too.
[06:24] <Vesayth> ziroday: sudo openvpn --config-file /etc/openvpn/openvpn.conf | Options error: Unrecognized option or missing parameter(s) in [CMD-LINE]:1: config-file (2.1_rc11)
[06:24] <needhelp1> if i want more it says i need to create a extended
[06:24] <Skript101> AUS
[06:24] <sebsebseb> needhelp1: yep
[06:24] <Skript101> Australia, Victoria
[06:24] <needhelp1> i guess i have to reformat the ext3 as an extended
[06:24] <orange-wedge> awh needhelpl you need to make a logical partitions
[06:24] <ziroday> Vesayth: yep you're config file is borked, can you pastebin it please
[06:24] <ziroday> CoJaBo-Aztec: nope, sorry
[06:24] <Michi_akane> Piet: Is this something that can be configured or even safely disabled?
[06:24] <Vesayth> ziroday: it's 100% identical to the one shown in the guide
[06:24]  * Skript101 BIG LAGG
[06:24] <sebsebseb> needhelp1: could do, or   put  ext3 and swap in an extended
[06:24] <g-a-m-e-r-x> orange-wedge, WORKS GREAT, THANKS!
[06:24] <needhelp1> orange-wedge: isnt a logical like a folder in another partition?
[06:24] <Piet> Michi_akane: but only two bugs have ever been files against the acpid package in ubuntu apparently. and those dont seem to be related.
[06:24] <orange-wedge> awesome
[06:24] <ziroday> Vesayth: please pastebin it
[06:24]  * Skript101 :(
[06:25] <sebsebseb> needhelp1: show me a screenshot of gparted or something
[06:25] <needhelp1> sebsebseb: it wont let me make an extended
[06:25] <orange-wedge> sorry the extended is what i meant
[06:25] <CoJaBo-Aztec> Then I amm doomed to spamming random cjunk to channels forever o_O
[06:25] <Vesayth> ziroday: one moment. Also, I still suspect something is wrong with my iptables anyway
[06:25] <needhelp1> i ahve to deleted sda4 and create a extended
[06:25] <orange-wedge> yeah thats what you need to do
[06:25] <needhelp1> does an extended partition run slower or anything?
[06:25] <sebsebseb> needhelp1: ok  forget this
[06:25] <orange-wedge> no
[06:25] <sebsebseb> needhelp1: forget it
[06:25] <synthesist> can anyone give me a hand with some bash trouble?
[06:25] <ziroday> Vesayth: feel free to pastebin iptables -L too then :) (and you should be using ufw instead of iptables)
[06:25] <orange-wedge> the mbr can only hold so many partitions
[06:25] <sebsebseb> needhelp1: get back to your unallocated space
[06:25] <needhelp1> would it be easier to use the installer?
[06:25] <sebsebseb> needhelp1: go back to installer, and yes pick one of those options
[06:26] <Piet> Michi_akane: actually the irq handling is done by the acpi modules, and those ar enot contained in the acpid package. acpid is just a daemon, a backgroup porocess receiving and sending requests for power saving and the like.
[06:26] <Vesayth> ziroday: http://pastebin.com/m5f7fc316
[06:26] <sebsebseb> needhelp1: once you have the unallocated space there again, like before
[06:26] <Vesayth> ziroday: something is modifying my iptables after ufw is. So i made a script to modify them myself
[06:26] <Vesayth> ziroday: unless you can help me fix that as well >.>
[06:26] <Piet> Michi_akane: it should be rather uncritical. IF an ACOI issue was there it would be related to the kernel modules, and those you have ruled out to be problematic.
[06:27] <Skript101> ok
[06:27] <MaT-dg> wasn't there a new feature in jaunty that can reboot without going trough bios?
[06:27] <Skript101> My question
[06:27] <sebsebseb> needhelp1: install side by side that should do it
[06:27] <n2diy_> ! ufw
[06:27] <Piet> Michi_akane: so, did you say you have another NIC available?
[06:27] <Skript101> I live in australia
[06:27] <n2diy_> what's ufw?
[06:27] <sebsebseb> needhelp1: I think  the using  most continous free space option,  would  resize  a partition
[06:27] <Skript101> kk?
[06:28] <georgep> what would i type to download and install gtk+2  and the gtk+2 delopment files
[06:28] <Michi_akane> Piet: no.  NIC is built in (blargh!)
[06:28] <Skript101> Where can i get ubuntu shipped without shipit?
[06:28] <Skript101> To my house.
[06:28] <sebsebseb> Skript101: you can't
[06:29] <Skript101> In australia
[06:29] <JPSman> can anyone read this?
[06:29] <hotdog003> Yes, JPSman
[06:29] <NewApples> hello I need help
[06:29] <n2diy_> Skript101: google for ubuntu loco, and see if one is in your area?
[06:29] <sebsebseb> Skript101: your  pretty much off topic as well try asking in #ubuntu-offtopic
[06:29] <Skript101> !Ubuntu australia
[06:29] <sebsebseb> NewApples: with?
[06:29] <Vesayth> ziroday: here is a pastebin of my iptables rules: http://pastebin.com/m2bd8496c
[06:29] <NewApples> I have a monitor pluged into my laptop and this monitor sometiems ever so often gets a blurred screeen for maybe half a second like someone hit the monitor very hard, how do i fix this
[06:30] <Skript101> Why is that
[06:30] <hotdog003> Hey guys. I'm thinking of reinstalling my computer using LUKS and dm-crypt to encrypt my entire hard drive. If I suspend my computer and open it up again, will it remember the encryption keys? Or do I retype it again? If it doesn't, is there a way to ensure that I have to retype it after a suspend?
[06:30] <n2diy_> NewApples: stop hitting your monitor?
[06:30] <NewApples> n2diy_ i am not hitting it but ever so often it blurs
[06:30] <NewApples> and NO i did not have this problem before or in windows
[06:30] <sebsebseb> needhelp1: getting anywhere now?
[06:30] <sebsebseb> needhelp1: installing yet?
[06:30] <needhelp1> yeah one sec
[06:31] <n2diy_> NewApples: is the monitor a crt?
[06:31] <NewApples> n2diy_ what is "crt"
[06:31] <n2diy_> NewApples: cathode ray tube.
[06:31] <hotdog003> A flat screen is an LCD, but if it looks like an old TV, then it's a CRT monitor.
[06:31] <ziroday> Vesayth: one sec, I haven't done this in a while :)
[06:31] <NewApples> n2diy_ what does cathode ray tube mean
[06:32] <ziroday> Skript101: ask in #ubuntu-au
[06:32] <NewApples> ahh i have a CRT
[06:32] <sebsebseb> CRT's are inside  screens
[06:32] <NewApples> a big onje
[06:32] <NewApples> a real one
[06:32] <NewApples> not flat screen
[06:32] <FloodBot1> NewApples: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:32] <sebsebseb> CRT talk is offtoic here  try #hardware
[06:32] <Skript101> ok
[06:32] <sebsebseb> offtopic above
[06:32] <ziroday> sebsebseb: its ##hardware
[06:32] <Vesayth> ziroday: no problem
[06:32] <n2diy_> NewApples: the high voltage section of your monitor is failing, the HV. controls the focus of the crt.
[06:32] <JPSman> ok, why wont nickserv let me chat in other channels when I have registered this handle with it already??
[06:32] <sebsebseb> ziroday: that's nice,  I expect my one would redirect :)
[06:32] <ziroday> JPSman: ask in #freenode
[06:32] <JPSman> K
[06:33] <NewApples> n2diy_ nothing is failing everything works fine in windows, it dosent go blurry, but here in ubuntu it does, how do i fix this
[06:33] <Vesayth> ziroday: also, I'm getting the impression from the guide that i need 2 connections to my router? (it makes reference to eth0 and eth1)
[06:33] <sebsebseb> needhelp1: installing?
[06:34] <needhelp1> yeah one sec
[06:34] <needhelp1> getting food
[06:34] <ziroday> Vesayth: take a look at http://howto.landure.fr/gnu-linux/debian-4-0-etch-en/install-and-setup-openvpn-on-debian-4-0-etch
[06:34] <Piet> Michi_akane: doesn't matter. if you have another, we can just deactivate the onboard one.
[06:34] <ziroday> Vesayth: and I can't remember any of this, sorry
[06:34] <NewApples> ziroday haha are you online haha!
[06:34] <sebsebseb> needhelp1: well I am going soon
[06:34] <needhelp1> kk i think i can get it from here
[06:34] <needhelp1> thanks
[06:34] <sebsebseb> needhelp1: ,but  I am here later
[06:34] <NewApples> ziroday ok dude we talked before and you helped me with my screen resolution before i was getting the black screen of doom
[06:34] <Piet> Michi_akane: If you want to read up on the ACPI issue: http://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=8570 - it's irrelevant, though.
[06:35] <Vesayth> ziroday: no problem. I'll give this guide a try. Thanks ^^
[06:35] <n2diy_> NewApples: let me guess, you are using a Nvidia video card?
[06:35] <NewApples> ziroday you showed me how to fix this and gave me a butt load of screen resolution options BUT it turned the text all fat and ugly!
[06:35] <NewApples> ziroday but a nice thing of what you did was that when i shut down i no longer get 3 error messages but i got instead that ubuntu picturer with the bar loading under it just as when you log in
[06:36] <synthesist> how can i copy a list of files that contain spaces in them to another directory? every time i try to run "for i in 'cat list.txt'; do cp $i /destination; done" it splits up filenames with spaces.
[06:36] <Deepika> Is Apple's market going to fall with Microsoft NEW AD????       is it going to be + point for GNU/Linux ???    http://techfancy.blogspot.com/
[06:36] <NewApples> ziroday could you tell me how to get that when i log out , because i have reinstalled several times since we talked
[06:36] <ziroday> NewApples: great, did the folks in #radeonhd help out?
[06:36] <sebsebseb> !ot |  Depika
[06:36] <NewApples> n2diy_ I am using ATI Mobility Radeon X2300 HD graphic card
[06:37] <hotdog003> synthesist: for i in 'cat list.txt'; do cp "$i" /destination; done
[06:37] <NewApples> ziroday people at Radeonhd said everything is preinstalled and nothing needs installation and that everything is fine and how dare i jsut ask a question
[06:37] <sebsebseb> needhelp1: right well good luck,  and  if  you bump into me later on,   maybe I can tell you about some good programs to install or something
[06:37] <hotdog003> synthesist: You can use variable names in "" quotes. It's just '' quotes that you can't.
[06:37] <n2diy_> NewApples: sounds like a new card if it is HD, maybe the ATI module isn't mature yet?
[06:38] <synthesist> hotdog003: same result. it still splits up the filenames
[06:38] <sebsebseb> needhelp1: this guide  will  cover basics, but not all of that    http://www.ubuntuguide.org
[06:38] <NewApples> n2diy_ the computer is from 2007 or so
[06:38] <billisnice> I try to find a window xp printer on the network and when i try to locate the printer the print box disappears
[06:38] <NewApples> n2diy i installed ubuntu 2 days ago and i was not having this problem in windows
[06:39] <Michi_akane> Piet: Thanks again.  I think I will  let this burn in and see what happens.   I just wanted to make sure that it was not something obvious that I would not be able to see but someone with more linux experience can spot in a heartbeat.  Thanks a lot for your help.  I will be back if I need anything else.  (*^u^*)
[06:39] <NewApples> ziroday how do i get the ubuntu picture wit the bar loading under it when i log out instead of 3 error messages
[06:39] <hotdog003> synthesist: Oh, I see. Hmm. The for loop is what splits it up. It doesn't know to split up your file list with spaces or newlines. I honestly haven't figured out a way around it. You might be better writing a little python script instead or maybe using xargs.
[06:39] <n2diy_> NewApples: yes, new by linux standards, takes time to reverse engineer things when the manufacture won't release it standards to the linux community.
[06:39] <usser> hotdog003, just tar them
[06:40] <billbyad> having problem w/ ruby but no one is alive in the ruby channel using s.unpack('H*') how can i do an output like \x36\x6e where the \x is added between each hex bit
[06:40] <usser> hotdog003, tar -cvf `cat list.txt` ; tar -xvf /destination
[06:40] <NewApples> n2diy_ BUT before when zioday made something cool to my computer that problem also vanished, but a got new ones, but that one vanished haha ;)
[06:40] <synthesist> usser: let me give it a shot.
[06:41] <Piet> Michi_akane: alright. don't forget to fix the other things we found on the way
[06:41] <n2diy_> NewApples: ok, I don't know what zioday and you did, but try reversing it to where it works again?
[06:42] <NewApples> n2diy_ i ahve reinstalled my computer serveral times since then
[06:42] <NewApples> n2diy_ this now what i have is a newly installed version
[06:42] <usser> synthesist, its actually tar -cvf arch.tar `cat list.txt`
[06:42] <NewApples> n2diy_ i come from windows so i reinstall everytime even the smallest problem occuours
[06:43] <synthesist> usser: i was just about to ask
[06:43] <Piet> Michi_akane: and if you can afford, stick some more RAM into this box (RAM is cheap)
[06:43] <synthesist> lol
[06:43] <NewApples> n2diy_ but this problem occours at installation so i would like it fixed
[06:43] <jbmigel> NewApples i thought that was just rebooting
[06:43] <usser> synthesist, and tar -xvf arch.tar -C /destination
[06:43] <NewApples> jbmigel huh?
[06:43] <billbyad> noone?
[06:43] <ziroday> NewApples: okay, pastebin your xorg.conf please
[06:43] <jbmigel> NewApples every time the smallest problem occurs....
[06:43]  * Piet to bakery
[06:43] <NewApples> ziroday ok
[06:44] <NewApples> jbmigel yes there was a joke in their somehwere but i just woke up so i cant see it
[06:44] <n2diy_> NewApples: ok, loose the Windows attitude, linux is designed to be fixed on the fly. Not sure what to tell you, it sounds like a problem with the HV in the monitor, but if works in Windows, it would seem to be a module/driver problem. Might be a bug, google might be of help to you?
[06:44] <jbmigel> NewApples thats ok... it wasnt really that funny anyway
[06:45] <synthesist> usser: will the process take very long this way, it's about 80gb worth of data to be tar-ed and un-tared
[06:45] <NewApples> ziroday my paste bin of the xorg.conf file http://pastebin.com/m5654e45c
[06:45] <usser> synthesist, yes it will take a lot of time that way for that much data
[06:45] <usser> synthesist, look for alternative solutions
[06:46] <Rehan5> Hi everyone, complete n00b to Ubuntu...just installed it today on my HP dv6700 laptop...am not able to enable the 'Normal' or 'Extra' visual affects in the appearance menu -- it keeps saying 'desktop effects could not be enabled' ... is there a way I can find out if I have the i915 video card chipset, and is there a way to disable this lockout?
[06:46] <NewApples> n2diy_ i just menationed windows to remove the idea that it migth be a monitor physicall defect and google what?
[06:46] <ziroday> NewApples: okay, under Device add Driver "radeonhd" and Option "DRI"
[06:46] <synthesist> usser: any ideas to point me in the right direction?
[06:46] <NewApples> ziroday i am affraid that if i do that then i might again get the blurry and fat letters
[06:47] <usser> synthesist, perl or a python script maybe
[06:47] <NewApples> ziroday they were so fat it was so ugly
[06:47] <n2diy_> NewApples: ok, google ubuntu and your video card make and model numbers.
[06:47] <ziroday> NewApples: well we shall try to fix that when that issue appears
[06:47] <NewApples> ziroday ok
[06:47] <NewApples> n2diy_ ok
[06:48] <n2diy_> NewApples: GL, I'll let ziroday carry on with you.
[06:48] <ziroday> n2diy_: heh, thanks :)
[06:48] <NewApples> n2diy_ok and cheers ;)
[06:48] <synthesist> usser: one last question, i'm just going to let this run overnight, is it going to delete the tar files after extracting?
[06:48] <georgep> :( downloading win7
[06:49] <NewApples> ziroday i have no driver in my xorg.conf
[06:49] <n2diy_> NewApples: GL, Iziroday, GL guys, cheers, and beers! For me at least. :)
[06:49] <ziroday> NewApples: yes well add that under the Device section
[06:49] <jbmigel> im so sad i tried to upgrade my gutsy version... now ill never have working wireless again
[06:50] <NewApples> ziroday what is the command in terminal that allows me to alter my zorg.conf file
[06:50] <ziroday> georgep: #ubuntu-offtopic or ##windows
[06:50] <georgep> jbmigel: i am downloading win7 because i cant get my Belkin to work
[06:50] <ziroday> NewApples: gksudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[06:50] <NewApples> ziroday ok
[06:50] <jbmigel> georgep touche
[06:50] <georgep> im sorry ziroday i cant get my belkin wireless adapter to work in jaunty
[06:51] <ziroday> georgep: chipset?
[06:51] <unkmar> I have the 9.04 i386 live iso.  I would like to create a bootable USB without burning the ISO to CD and booting from the live CD.
[06:51] <georgep> ziroday: Bus 002 Device 005: ID 050d:705a Belkin Components F5D7050A
[06:51] <Rehan5> Hi everyone, complete n00b to Ubuntu...just installed it today on my HP dv6700 laptop...am not able to enable the 'Normal' or 'Extra' visual affects in the appearance menu -- it keeps saying 'desktop effects could not be enabled' ... is there a way I can find out if I have the i915 video card chipset, and is there a way to disable this lockout? Thank you for any help you can provide!
[06:52] <linuxviewer> I think my download is on a slow server.  It is going at 900B/s, yes B/s, I have a 10mb download line.  Suggestions?
[06:52] <JECHO> rehan5 you need to enable the restricte ddrivers
[06:52] <linuxviewer> I am downloading from free.nchc.org.tw
[06:52] <jbmigel> linuxviewer have a smoke
[06:52] <ziroday> georgep: eek, can you pastebin lspci please and dmesg after unplugging and plugging it back in
[06:52] <linuxviewer> It takes 4 hours for a 58mb update :o
[06:52] <ziroday> linuxviewer: choose another repo
[06:52] <Rehan5> JECHO: Thank you -- do I just do that through the Synaptic app?
[06:52] <JECHO> no no
[06:53] <JECHO> rehan5 go to system > administration > hardware drivers and enable the reccomended one. then reboot and enable the effects
[06:53] <NewApples> ziroday do you mean like this http://pastebin.com/m1d098e83
[06:53] <linuxviewer> ziroday - How?
[06:54] <Daps> Any knowledgeable Ubuntu Server users here..?? 8.1
[06:54] <Rehan5> JECHO: oh ok, I appreciate you helping me.  When I go into hardware drivers, the only option it lets me enable/activate is a software modem.  It doesn't show anything else.  Am I doing something completely wrong?
[06:54] <linuxviewer> I dont know where to find a mirror of what I am getting
[06:54] <ziroday> linuxviewer: System > Software Sources > Download From: Other > Choose Best Server
[06:54] <ziroday> NewApples: mm, not quite. Gimme a sec
[06:54] <NewApples> ziroday mkay
[06:55] <jml> how do I find out how many packages are in Ubuntu?
[06:55] <ziroday> NewApples: like http://pastebin.com/m2bcf7fbe
[06:55] <NewApples> jml what do you mean by packages
[06:55] <NewApples> ziroday ok
[06:55] <linuxviewer> ziroday - No GUI.  I am running server mode.
[06:55] <jml> NewApples: I mean source packages.
[06:56] <NewApples> jml i  have no idea :P
[06:56] <Daps> i just installed ubuntu server on my machine using VMware, and its all in terminal...   Which is not much more than a collection of files.
[06:57] <NewApples> ziroday i have added your pastebin and saved
[06:57] <georgep> ziroday: http://pastebin.com/m590f607e
[06:57] <ziroday> linuxviewer: edit /etc/apt/source.list and change the repos to deb http://cc.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu where cc is your country code
[06:57] <n2diy_> jml: run Synaptic Package Manager, and check the tool bar/panel.
[06:57] <unkmar> Daps: not view it.  So you just need a LAMP install. Linux Apache MySQL PHP and maybe perl.
[06:57] <ziroday> NewApples: great, please logout and log back in
[06:57] <NewApples> ziroday you want me to reboot the computer?
[06:58] <ziroday> georgep: um, is the belkin connected via usb?
[06:58] <unkmar> Daps: you can install a GUI. You just don't need one.
[06:58] <ziroday> NewApples: no, just log out and log back in
[06:58] <georgep> ziroday: yes
[06:58] <jml> n2diy_: thanks. that's good enough for me now.
[06:58] <Daps> ok, so do i get that the same way i would in Ubuntu.? apt-get install etc...
[06:58] <NewApples> ziroday from irc ?
[06:58] <ziroday> georgep: apologies, could I have lsusb -vv please
[06:58] <ziroday> NewApples: no, from your computer account
[06:58] <unkmar> I have the 9.04 i386 live iso.  I would like to create a bootable USB without burning the ISO to CD and booting from the live CD.
[06:58] <n2diy_> jml: cool, GL
[06:58] <NewApples> ziroday ok i will press log out but not the restart button
[06:58] <ziroday> NewApples: correct
[06:59] <ziroday> NewApples: and then log back in
[06:59] <linuxviewer> ziroday - Thank you, I changed it to one from sourceforge and now i am getting 500+ kb/s
[06:59] <linuxviewer> thank you
[06:59] <unkmar> Daps: LAMP is a set of packages, you can use: sudo tasksel
[06:59] <ziroday> linuxviewer: great
[06:59] <Daps> unkmar im still kinda new so all the terminal stuff is a bit scary.. lol
[06:59] <Daps> LAMP eh.. ok i'll give it a shot
[06:59] <shamoun> hey all,  will the cd creating application included on the live cd allow me to burn a cd using the drive that the livecd is currently in? or will i need to do an install to burn this disc?
[06:59] <unkmar> Daps: In a server install. LAMP may already be installed by default.  I'm not sure.  been a long time since I did one.
[07:00] <georgep> ziroday: http://pastebin.com/m538989a3
[07:00] <ziroday> shamoun: you will need to do an install, or create a bootable ubuntu
[07:00] <ziroday> shamoun: bootable ubuntu usb stick
[07:00] <ziroday> georgep: thanks
[07:00] <Daps> well something happens when i type sudo tasksel..
[07:00] <Daps> so lets see what gives
[07:00] <shamoun> ziroday: will creating the bootable sb stick take longer than the hd install?
[07:00] <georgep> ziroday: np
[07:00] <ziroday> georgep: err is the belkin usb dongle plugged in when you ran that command?
[07:01] <unkmar> shamoun: or you could use a bootable Pupply linux CD to create one.
[07:01] <ziroday> shamoun: no
[07:01] <georgep> ziroday: yes
[07:01] <unkmar> shamoun: more importantly will a bootable usb even boot in your system?
[07:01] <shamoun> ziroday: what's the easiest way to do it then? do i need to use the install application?
[07:01] <shamoun> unkmar: it will
[07:01] <ziroday> georgep: odd its not appearing, please pastebin sudo lsusb
[07:01] <jbmigel> anyone know of a nice command line utility to configure wireless internet... please dont say ifconfig
[07:02] <Firefishe> jbmigel:  iwconfig is for wireless
[07:02] <ziroday> shamoun: nope, on the livecd there is an option in System > Administration to "Create a USB startup disk" or something like that
[07:02] <Daps> it says ubuntu studio desktop (must install)
[07:02] <unkmar> How do I create a bootable USB without a bootable CD?  I have the ISO but don't want to bother with a CD.
[07:02] <Daps> whats that about?
[07:02] <shamoun> ziroday: ah i thought that was for persistent home or something
[07:02] <nithin> can anybody help me with some data recovery?
[07:03] <unkmar> nithin: what kind of data recovery?    Just picking out the questions for anyone that might already know.
[07:07] <jbmigel> nithin your never gonna see your pics again man... why did you delete them?
[07:07] <hphubert> hi
[07:07] <nithin> there is actully a nice prog to recover jpegs in the synaptic but i was looking for something better
[07:08] <NewApples> ziroday i am back
[07:08] <unkmar> jbmigel: the thing that irks me about that.  Windows has all kinds of undelete options avialable.
[07:08] <NewApples> ziroday many things went worng
[07:08] <NewApples> ziroday you gave me the black screen of doom!
[07:08] <n2diy_> jbmigel: umm, no, the router is running the ethernet cable lan, and wireless is turned on in the router, what else would be needed?
[07:09] <unkmar> jbmigel: granted, they all work only on NTFS or FAT32 system.  but still.
[07:09] <unkmar> n2diy_: SSID broadcast would also have to be turned on for discovery.
[07:09] <jbmigel> n2diy_ you may need to install a driver for your laptop's wireless card... is the wireless light on? can you see the wireless devices name in ifconfig?
[07:09] <n2diy_> unkmar: ssid broadcast is enabled.
[07:10] <NewApples> ziroday when i pressed log out it screen when all black it would not load, so i press the physical shut down button on the computer, when it restarted, then i had the black screen of doom, i had to unplugg my monitor and restart and an error message appeared
[07:10] <hphubert> 	 what is the smallest graphical environment requirements? there needs to nx
[07:10] <unkmar> n2diy_: did you try: sudo iwlist wlan0 scan ?  Or whatever your device name is?
[07:10] <n2diy_> jbmigel: it isn't a laptop, it is my desktop, hosting the router.
[07:10] <linuxviewer> how do I unmount a disk?
[07:10] <unkmar> linuxviewer: umount
[07:10] <n2diy_> unkmar: no, you neglected to suggest sudo before, let me try again.
[07:11] <NewApples> ziroday when i plugged out my montior and resrted it said the "radeonhd file does not exist, and some options came up I choose the option configure graphic card and use genereic standard something something, restarted my computer and here i am
[07:11] <jbmigel> n2diy_ your desktop is hosting your router... what does that mean
[07:11] <unkmar> linuxviewer: sudo umount /location.  Other option is to right click the icon of the mounted item on the desktop.
[07:11] <sysdoc> nithin, PhotoRec
[07:11] <ziroday> NewApples: you needed to do sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-video-radeonhd first
[07:11] <linuxviewer> unkmar - if I unmount a disk using a livecd, the next time the computer starts will it be mounted?
[07:11] <NewApples> ziroday this is a fresh installation so i do not have the radeonhd from installed
[07:12] <NewApples> ziroday you are so right
[07:12] <hphubert> 	 what is the smallest graphical environment requirements? there needs to nx
[07:12] <hphubert> what is the smallest graphical environment requirements? there needs to nx
[07:12] <m0> Hello any reason when I make my appearances to very high, everytime I open a window it appears in background not foreground?
[07:12] <linuxviewer> unkmar - how do I see the mounted drives (i am in server mode, so text only)
[07:12] <n2diy_> jbmigel: I don't know! I'm the linux guru in the house, and control the router, so basically, my box is....
[07:12] <Asphalt> Hey guys, I made a single disk array and now have purchased a new HD and want to add the drive as a mirror.  Any idea how to do it?
[07:12] <NewApples> ziroday when I install this program will that alter my zorg.conf file?
[07:12] <unkmar> linuxviewer: mount -l
[07:13] <hphubert> what is the smallest graphical environment requirements? there needs to nx
[07:13] <jbmigel> hphubert you can install the server version and run headless
[07:13] <NewApples> ziroday i am now installing sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-video-radeonhd
[07:13] <NewApples> ziroday my installation of sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-video-radeonhd is complete
[07:13] <jbmigel> hphubert so the smallest graphical environenment req's i guess would be zero.
[07:14] <unkmar> hphubert: you can run X headless. as in login via a remote system.  vnc is just one of many options.
[07:14] <hphubert> unkmar how can i start? what 1st?
[07:14] <jbmigel> hphubert then maybe fluxbox is light, xfce comes with gtk but its still smaller than gnome/kde
[07:14] <n2diy_> jbmigel: unkmar, it's late here, so forget about the wireless here, I'll deal with it tomorrow, thanks.
[07:15] <unkmar> hphubert: if you want X to from a local video card and monitor. then Probably VGA or 640x480 would be minimum.
[07:15] <hphubert> unkmar i have on server a Ubuntu Server 9.04
[07:15] <NewApples> ziroday i have completed my installation and the xorg.conf file has changed back to "standard" as it was before
[07:15] <rimvis> how can i install xen on ubuntu 9.10?
[07:16] <hphubert> unkmar i want connect with my windows to server in graphic mode
[07:16] <jbmigel> rimvis wait till october for starters :P
[07:16] <NewApples> rimivis there is an ubuntu 9.10 cool i did not know thanks for shareing :D:D:D:D:D:D
[07:16] <rimvis> me need now xen
[07:16] <unkmar> hphubert: 1st, that is dumb Idea.  I've done it and it does have its uses but, generally not a useful option.
[07:17] <punflinger> hey, having an issue with grub at the moment, anyone around that can help?
[07:17] <Asphalt> Any idea how to add a partition to a software array?
[07:17] <jbmigel> rimvis: sudo aptitude install ubuntu-xen-server
[07:17] <hphubert> unkmar may i break my server if I install x server? ps is nx server need a x server?
[07:17] <unkmar> hphubert: Which Desktop do you want?  gnome, kde, openbox, fluxbox....
[07:18] <rimvis> thanks
[07:18] <punflinger> is anyone around that can help out with grub error 22?
[07:18] <NewApples> ziroday should i change the xorg.conf file and add the Driver radeonhd and Option Dir?
[07:18] <hphubert> unkmar i need with the smallest requipments, server isn 't strong
[07:18] <jbmigel> rimvis i googled it... why didnt you
[07:19] <unkmar> hphubert: then you will probably want fluxbox, openbox, xfce or something very similar.
[07:19] <sacarlson> punflinger:  try booting from a supergrub cd and reload MBR and stage 1.5
[07:19] <rimvis> when i googled i found something else install xen and it doesn't work
[07:19] <unkmar> hphubert: You will also need one of the vnc servers.
[07:19] <rimvis> so i try this variant
[07:20] <punflinger> sacarlson: if i boot from the ubuntu cd and select boot from first hard drive
[07:20] <punflinger> i get grub to work
[07:20] <unkmar> [PL]hpubert: You will also need one of the vnc servers.
[07:20] <jbmigel> [PL]hpubert, you will have to install X and a desktop environment... you will need new server
[07:20] <punflinger> sacarlson: i don't have the web in my apartment, so i'm doing this by the notes i have
[07:21] <ziroday> NewApples: yep
[07:21] <NewApples> ziroday ok i will do so now
[07:21] <unkmar> I want to create a bootable USB but I don't have a CD.  I have the iso.
[07:22] <linuxviewer> I am trying to run something where the sata hard drive has to be unmounted, but I cannot find it using mount -l
[07:22] <sacarlson> punflinger:  you might try just boot from the live cd select boot to harddrive then grub-update
[07:22] <jbmigel> unkmar
[07:22] <NewApples> ziroday i have now added the 2 lines
[07:22] <ziroday> NewApples: great
[07:23] <leeguy92> how do i tell Xorg to use vesa instead of the nvidia blob drivers?
[07:23] <leeguy92> being as there is no xorg.conf
[07:23] <linuxviewer> Any recommendations?  It says "none on /dev" when I type mount -l, even though I know the hard drive is in there.
[07:23] <ziroday> leeguy92: one se
[07:23] <leeguy92> k
[07:24] <jeevan> can u help me to install php and mysql in my system.....???? leeguy92
[07:24] <linuxviewer> lamp
[07:24] <sacarlson> punflinger:  I'm sorry not grub-update it's these two you should try:  grub-install update-grub
[07:24] <m0> Is there ways to get more up to date packages?
[07:25] <ziroday> leeguy92: create an xorg.conf with http://pastebin.com/mafc6572 inside
[07:25] <ziroday> !latest | m0
[07:25] <jbmigel> linuxviewer look in /etc/fstab
[07:25] <NewApples> ziroday should i try to log out again or reboot or ?
[07:25] <m0> For example, Eclipse is versioned 3.2 and now its 3.4.5
[07:25] <ziroday> m0: you can try use a PPA
[07:25] <ziroday> NewApples: logout, log back in
[07:25] <NewApples> ziroday ok i will try to log out and log back in
[07:25] <leeguy92> ziroday: and i would just change that to "nvidia" if i wanted to use the blob driver?
[07:25] <unkmar> linuxviewer: did you use sudo?  sudo mount -l ?  sometimes permissions get in the way. :/
[07:25] <m0> !PPA
[07:26] <ziroday> m0: my best advice on eclipse is to build it yourself, due to nobody wanting to package it in ubuntu its horrendously out of date
[07:26] <Brack10> hey
[07:26] <m0> ziroday: thats what I did, but I am quite annoyed there is no icon that comes with it :p
[07:27] <coolkourt> good evening guys, does anyone know how to use suns JRE instead of the free vendor on Ubuntu 9.04
[07:27] <Brack10> what takes up fewer processor cycles: streaming music or playing local music files?
[07:27] <unkmar> what is the cli command to start the "usb startup disk creator
[07:27] <ziroday> coolkourt: sudo apt-get install sun-java6-jre ?
[07:27] <coolkourt> lemme try
[07:27] <m0> The only thing that doesn't work in Ubuntu is Xinerama support, PTPP VPN, and Wine Audio for Steam
[07:28] <jbmigel> BraCK10 whats faster your harddrive or your network?
[07:28] <m0> Hard to get an answer in the forums, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=7278517
[07:29] <Brack10> kbmigel: HDD is a solid state drive, network is 802.11g
[07:29] <Brack10> jbmigel: even
[07:29] <coolkourt> ziroday: hey im firing up eclipse right now i hope it works bro
[07:30] <ziroday> coolkourt: great
[07:30] <jbmigel> BraCK10 your hard drive will always perform better than a network, but for playing music it doesnt matter they both can do it a thousand times over at once
[07:30] <NewApples> Ziroday i have loged out and logged back in when i log out there is this esstetically pleasing picture with a ring to the right side and 2 cirlces around it
[07:30] <ziroday> NewApples: great
[07:30] <NewApples> ziroday i also tried to reboot so see if there was this ubuntu logo with a bar under it loading and it was, this was what you told me to do last time i recall
[07:30] <Brack10> jbmigel: yes but cycles are precious on my netbook
[07:30] <Brack10> jbmigel: it's very slow
[07:31] <jeevan> how to install lampp...... commands???? Brack10
[07:31] <Brack10> jeevan it's on the wiki
[07:31] <jbmigel> BraCK10 you have a solid state drive in a notebook that has 'precious' cycles? lol!
[07:31] <coolkourt> ziroday: yea it says aptana annot run on the free software foundation, do you know how to remove that?
[07:31] <Brack10> jeevan google: ubuntu lamp
[07:31] <Brack10> then hit I'm feeling lucky
[07:31] <ziroday> coolkourt: nope
[07:31] <jeevan> thanks..... Brack10
[07:32] <NewApples> ziroday a small problem is that when i logged back in the screen resolution had changed for my monitor from 1024X768 to 1152X864 so i changed it back, also i do nto know if the letters have gotten fatter, they are not as fat as when it drove me to reinstall but they could be a bit fatter than before i should have taken a screen shoot
[07:32] <Wiseguy> jeevan, the server addition has an option to do a LAMP install by default im pretty sure
[07:32] <ziroday> NewApples: okay
[07:33] <teapot> Hey guys. I'm using Unix Authentication on my pure-ftpd server and would like to chroot to a directory outside of the user's home directory. Do you guys know if that can be done?
[07:33] <NewApples> ziroday also when i unplug my monitor from my laptop i get more options for screen resolution for my laptop WAY WAY beyond its design specificks, all the way up to 2500 times something, when it is a maximum 1280X800 if i were to choose a higher resolution will i physically damage my video card and or laptop built in monitor?
[07:33] <Brack10> jbmigel: yes indeed...I got an Asus EeePc 701
[07:33] <Brack10> jbmigel: it runs jaunty pretty well
[07:33] <KyleK> teapot: wouldn't the ftpd be doing the chrooting?
[07:34] <teapot> KyleK: Aye, that's what I mean.
[07:34] <teapot> would like it to*
[07:34] <ziroday> NewApples: nope, it probably just won't work
[07:34] <KyleK> so just tell it to chroot?
[07:34] <teapot> Not quite so simple.
[07:34] <NewApples> ziroday but on the positive side, i wrote a word document with all your instructions haha install the program, edit xorg.conf and sent it as a mial to myslef, so that i can redo it many times over and over again ;)
[07:34] <jbmigel> Brack10 well im not really sure but you should test out the performance both ways and stick with the best one for you
[07:35] <NewApples> ziroday ok
[07:35] <KyleK> teapot: sure it is, you try it, it gives you an error of some kind, and you can tackle that :)
[07:35] <czert> hi people
[07:35] <Brack10> jbmigel: Youtube runs really slow, I hope VLC runs better
[07:35] <NewApples> czert hello
[07:36] <NewApples> ziroday thank you for your help i will wait now and see if my monitors still flickers as if someone slaped it
[07:36] <teapot> KyleK: Lol. No, I mean there's a configuration option for this, but it looks like it only works inside the user's home directory.
[07:36] <jbmigel> Brack10 have you tried mplayer?
[07:36] <KyleK> Brack10: youtube runs slow? if its 500mhz or better its probably gfx driver issue
[07:36] <KyleK> ohhh
[07:36] <teapot> http://download.pureftpd.org/pub/pure-ftpd/doc/README
[07:36] <Brack10> jbmigel: I prefer MPD
[07:36] <KyleK> the chroot to users dir option?
[07:36] <teapot> About two thirds of the way down per-user chroots
[07:36] <czert> i need help,but i must find my dictionary for better conversation :)
[07:36] <KyleK> why dont you just tell pure-ftpd that the users home directory is something different than it really is?
[07:37] <NewApples> ziroday one thing what is the unistall command for this radeonhd?
[07:37] <teapot> KyleK: I can be pretty thick sometimes. :)
[07:37] <Brack10> KyleK: well compiz works flawlessly, just slow
[07:37] <ziroday> NewApples: sudo apt-get remove xserver-xorg-video-radeonhd, but make sure you remove the Driver "radeonhd" line as well
[07:37] <KyleK> Brack10: disable it, youtube is more important ;)
[07:38] <Brack10> jbmigel: I have MPD running music at hold at work
[07:38] <Brack10> on hold
[07:38] <Brack10> KyleK: counter-intuitively it works better with compiz enabled
[07:38] <NewApples> ziroday thank you and of course, ziroday i will take some screen shoots i think my letter have gotten if not fat again but semi fat they need to cut downon the burgers!
[07:38] <teapot> KyleK: Thanks a bunch.
[07:38] <ziroday> NewApples: ha
[07:39] <KyleK> Brack10: ouch, sounds like a problem
[07:39] <unkmar> I give up.  Anyone got a gun? I'll just shoot all the PC's
[07:39] <Brack10> KyleK:  it's not bad just kinda jumpy
[07:39] <czert> how can I set my video codec?
[07:39] <Brack10> I don't think it worked much better on xandros
[07:39] <KingKimi> !ubuntuone > KingKimi
[07:39] <KyleK> what kind of video card is it?
[07:40] <KingKimi> why must i use ubuntu one ?
[07:40] <KyleK> Brack10: with the opensource and closed source ati/nvidia drivers its kind of a, if one doesn't work try the other one game sometimes :)
[07:40] <KingKimi> what is the use of ubuntuone ?
[07:40] <mgmuscari> does anybody know of a good USB DAC with a good headphone amp and RCA out?
[07:40] <nithin> what is ubuntuone
[07:40] <SteveyDeve> ubuntu one is similar to dropbox
[07:40] <KingKimi> nithin, google it :D
[07:40] <Brack10> KyleK: it's intel
[07:41] <KingKimi> nithin, https://ubuntuone.com/support/installation/