[22:06] <done365> defrysk: its strange because it did mount once but then when the system was restared I had to manually run a fdisk command for the boot drive
[22:06] <hwilde> java plugin help?  sun-java6-plugin: Depends: sun-java6-bin (= 6-15-1) but 6-16-0ubuntu1.9.04 is to be installed
[22:06] <subichan> it's the sri language model, it's not in the repositories.. anyway, i have tried just making it without changing a thing but I got errors saying "tcl.h: No file or directory" and as to eggdrop.. what does it mean? :) sorry i don't know what 'eggdrop' means
[22:06] <ZenMasta1> mneptok: gparted made it look that way but it does not. basically I want to mount both drives and then run the dd command to restore the backup on sdb1 to sda1
[22:06] <mka> mneptok, ZenMasta1: just wanna confirm. If your remove sda first and leave sdb doesnt ubuntu makes sdb to be sda?
[22:06] <csaba> how to restore grub?
[22:06] <epinky> boscop: If it's blank you can burn on it
[22:06] <ZenMasta1> mneptok: lemme try
[22:06] <smwn> I have been trying to get my usb wireless to work....under ubuntu 9.04 I can finally see the networks and it connects fine....but when i try and surf the web it wont load pages...any ideas???
[22:06] <hwilde> !grub | csaba
[22:07] <LjL> subichan: eggdrop is a program that uses Tcl, it was just a wild guess from me. ignore it.
[22:07] <mneptok> ZenMasta1: how is /dev/sdb1 formatted?
[22:07] <domjohnson> csaba - have you tried booting onto the repair mode on your Alternate disc?
[22:07] <LjL> subichan: however, the SRI Language Model *is* in the repos
[22:07] <LjL> !info srilm | subichan
[22:07] <done365> Anyone with a solution to my SD mount problem? any help is more than welcome8-)
[22:07] <domjohnson> (Not sure if it's on the live)
[22:07] <ZenMasta1> mneptok: both drives are ntfs
[22:07] <csaba> yes that's how I'm here now
[22:07] <subichan> eh.. i'm in karmic
[22:07] <LjL> subichan: err, ok, it's not in the repo. but i have it available from some other repo, moment
[22:07] <csaba> I'm booting from livecd
[22:07] <ZenMasta1> mneptok: when I unplug sda sdb does not change to sda
[22:07] <mka> ZenMasta1: ok
[22:08] <LjL> !find tcl.h
[22:08] <smwn> I have been trying to get my usb wireless to work....under ubuntu 9.04 I can finally see the networks and it connects fine....but when i try and surf the web it wont load pages...any ideas???
[22:08] <domjohnson> csaba - not the livecd. Download the alternate disc image, burn it, boot into it, and go into repair mode. There should be somewhere on the lsit that allows you to reinstall grub
[22:08] <domjohnson> *list
[22:08] <mneptok> ZenMasta1: sudo mkdir /media/backup-drive && sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/sdb1 /media/backup-drive
[22:08] <subichan> yep but anyway i'm almost there.. i mean, i could try installing it from deb archives done for 9.04 but if i could just get over with the installation process i got halfway through i'd be happier of course.. ah by the way, i am trying to install srilm as part of the MOSES installation process
[22:08] <LjL> subichan: do you have tcl8.5-dev installed?
[22:09] <subichan> yep I tried installing that .. wait lemme check if i'm saying right things, brb
[22:09] <LjL> subichan: you could also just get srilm from http://cl.aist-nara.ac.jp/~eric-n/ubuntu-nlp/dists/edgy/nlp/
[22:10] <LjL> subichan: that's a repository of NLP packages for ubuntu
[22:10] <kapu> what is the common name for the little desktop on most nix x windows desktops that shows a graphical representation of all the desktops and the position of each running window?
[22:10] <ZenMasta1> mneptok: okay that worked without error and I can now browse the files in file browser
[22:10] <smwn> I have been trying to get my usb wireless to work....under ubuntu 9.04 I can finally see the networks and it connects fine....but when i try and surf the web it wont load pages...any ideas???
[22:10] <mneptok> ZenMasta1: great
[22:10] <llutz> calwig: please do not pm without asking, ask here in channel
[22:11] <subichan> yeah i should also get moses from there.. it's that i couldn't find the one for karmic and desisted
[22:11] <Poki> hi
[22:11] <ZenMasta1> mneptok: so now I'm gonna perform the same command for the other drive
[22:11] <Poki> i have fproblem for ubuntu 9.10
[22:11] <smwn> I have been trying to get my usb wireless to work....under ubuntu 9.04 I can finally see the networks and it connects fine....but when i try and surf the web it wont load pages...any ideas???
[22:11] <n8tuser> smwn-> your own AP? no firewalls or proxy blocking you?
[22:11] <calwig> ok
[22:11] <smwn> no
[22:11] <angela_miami> Hi, I installed a Mainpine modem with 8 ports, and everything works fine until port #3, but any oher port doesnt work.. is not even recognized.  so only  ttyS0, ttyS1 ttyS2 and ttyS3 work, but  ttyS4, S5.. S6... etc.. doesnt.. can anyone point me in the right direction for this ?
[22:11] <mka> ZenMasta1: dont mount in the same mount point
[22:11] <smwn> im using WPa personal for my router
[22:12] <Poki> i cant install , problem is frizze
[22:12] <subichan> Ljl i have tcl8.5-dev
[22:12] <Jordan_U> smwn: Can you pastebin the output from "route -n" ?
[22:12] <n8tuser> !who | swmn
[22:12] <ZenMasta1> mka yeah I got that ;P
[22:12] <smwn> ok
[22:12] <smwn> one moment please and thanks
[22:12] <smwn> Jorden_U
[22:12] <smwn> sorry
[22:12] <calwig> llutz, i have Tor installed and I am now redirecting everything to not the localhost but the internal interface address, to make this computer and the entire network inside go thru this ip
[22:12] <epinky> !enter | smwn
[22:13] <LjL> subichan: tcl8.4-dev then maybe; i don't know which version SRILM requires. the 8.4 package definitely provides a tcl.h. try that. if it still doesn't work, try putting /usr/include/tcl8.4/ in that TCL_INCLUDE variable (or 8.5)
[22:13] <jmcantrell> anyone here use the development version of nautilus-actions?
[22:13] <angela_miami> I've been told i need to recompile the kernel to enable more ports.. can someone confirm this?
[22:13] <mneptok> ZenMasta1: you'll need a different mount point
[22:13] <subichan> ah ok thank you
[22:13] <ZenMasta1> mneptok: great I can browse both thanks a lot. I also just finally learned that the number after the drive represents partitions I was always confused about what sda and sda were
[22:13] <mneptok> ZenMasta1: sudo mkdir /media/ye-olde-other-drive && sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/sdb1 /media/ye-olde-other-drive
[22:13] <calwig> llutz, what i would like to do is make the entire Gnome session forward all requests that require internet access thru this IP/port
[22:14] <n8tuser> angela_miami-> yes, if you have some unique neeeeds..not available in regular distro
[22:14] <mneptok> err
[22:14] <mneptok> ZenMasta1: sudo mkdir /media/ye-olde-other-drive && sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/sda1 /media/ye-olde-other-drive
[22:14] <done365> Any help on how to find solutions in this cluttered forum???
[22:14] <ZenMasta1> mneptok: yeah it's all good I already mounted it
[22:14] <calwig> llutz, and have nothing leak directly to the internet without it going thru a proxy or tor
[22:14] <jmcantrell> anyone here use the development version of nautilus-actions?
[22:14] <n8tuser> done365-> start with google perhaps?
[22:14] <angela_miami> Stuner, but is that a 'unique' need? there is no easier way to enable more ports?       Can you point me to an easy guide to recompile the kernel ?
[22:15] <ror> hi; I've got an issue with 2 specific DVDs not working. running vlc under a console it says "IFO invalid"; Out of the box set it's the two DVDs with audio commentaries on the disc that fail to open
[22:15] <llutz> calwig: you'll need to define iptables-rules to redirect all traffic
[22:15] <ror> I've got libdvdread4, libdvdread3 and libdvdcss2 installed
[22:15] <tntc> Jordan_U: isn't suspend to disk just "Hibernate"?
[22:15] <ZenMasta1> okay so now I need to restore the backup I made that is in /media/backup-drive/hdbackup/backup.gz  any idea how to do that? I created it using the dd command
[22:15] <calwig> llutz, ok thanks
[22:15] <Jordan_U> tntc: Yes, but suspend to both does both :)
[22:16] <tntc> Jordan_U: what do you mean?
[22:16] <done365> n8yuser: thanks, but I always google first.  no real answers there because the problems and solutions are either antiquated or not the same
[22:16] <sam__> ping
[22:16] <Jordan_U> tntc: What happens is that the contents of ram are saved to disk, but instead of shutting down the computer just suspends
[22:16] <n8tuser> angela_miami-> i dont know what ports you need, thats why i said unique
[22:16] <essial> Is there a way to clear out rejected emails from smtpd?
[22:17] <essial> It keeps trying to resend them, although I know these will fail
[22:17] <Jordan_U> tntc: The advantage being that while resuming from suspend is still just as fast, if you completely run out of power you can still resume from disk
[22:17] <gerrh> anyone have their lenovo s12 not eating any bootloaders regardless of what device i'm trying to boot from after the most recent ubuntu update?
[22:17] <steve__> thank you
[22:17] <ror> hmm, reinstalling all 3 did the trick! I guess it was a config snafu
[22:17] <n8tuser> done365-> well you just ahve to be patient in reading what one responds to you.. and maybe we dont have the answers readily available eitgher
[22:17] <Jordan_U> gerrh: What exactly happens when you try to boot?
[22:17] <gerrh> it gets past post
[22:17] <tntc> Jordan_U: in 7, what happens is the system suspends, and then if you take longer than 30 minutes or so to resume it, it switches to hibernate to preserve battery
[22:17] <phyrrus> when does ubuntu 10.4 come out?
[22:18] <Viking667> I've got a really weird problem I don't know how to solve.
[22:18] <tntc> Jordan_U: windows 7 that is.
[22:18] <gerrh> does not read any bootloader at all
[22:18] <done365> n8tuser: That I can do. Thanks for the feedback
[22:18] <sam__> hello
[22:18] <gerrh> just a lonely underscore blinking in the top left corner
[22:18] <Seveas> Viking667, maybe you should see a doctor then ;)
[22:18] <tntc> phyrrus: uh... april of 2010, based on the 10.4 version number :)
[22:18] <Viking667> I want to start kdm instead of gdm, but it's not starting automatically, only manually, and won't start from "service kdm start".
[22:18] <gerrh> sorry for not writing continously. bad habbit.
[22:18] <mka> ZenMasta1, mneptok, why dont  you try resizing some disk and restore to the resized space?
[22:18] <jmcantrell> anyone here use the development version of nautilus-actions?
[22:18] <Seveas> Viking667, did you remove gdm?
[22:19] <tntc> Jordan_U: can you think of a way to get Ubuntu to go "Hey, it's been X minutes, time to switch to full hibernate!"
[22:19] <JoeSomebody> hi, can ubuntu be installed in a system with a non-bootable dvd or from a flash drive?
[22:19] <sam__>  ping
[22:19] <ZenMasta1> mka I dont' know the command to restore... no resizing needed I want to completely overwrite the hd I am restoring too
[22:19] <Jordan_U> tntc: That is certainly possible, but it's not a standard configuration so won't be easy to setup
[22:19] <tntc> Jordan_U: where should I start looking?
[22:19] <Jordan_U> JoeSomebody: Yes
[22:19] <mka> ZenMasta1: ok, it is the same dd you used then
[22:19] <Jordan_U> !install | JoeSomebody
[22:19] <Viking667> Seveas: I can't seem to, as some erm, kind person made it a dependency for about seven other packages I have installed here (UbuntuStudio). Sheesh.
[22:20] <Seveas> Viking667, sudo update-rc.d -f remove gdm
[22:20] <sam__> HOLY SHIT
[22:20] <mka> ZenMasta1, but I usually dont believe dd that much
[22:20] <sam__> It works
[22:20] <Seveas> that should stop it from starting at boot :)
[22:20] <FloodBot1> sam__: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:20] <antonio_> divx ita
[22:20] <sam__> ops , sorry
[22:20] <mka> ZenMasta1, you have unmount the drive you want to restore
[22:20] <gerrh> to rephrase; i get past bios post and when it is about to load the bootloader nothing more happens. cursor blinks in top left corner and neither caps or num lock reacts. i've tried any possible combination of boot order in bios and no matter what usb port i use i get the single underscore blinking in the top left corner. anyone had this issue with their lenovo s12 after applying the last patch?
[22:20] <vivid> what is the gnome-menu "Other" category? and why does it get automatically populated with duplicate entries?
[22:20] <ZenMasta1> mka: yeah I've only ever used it before to clone directly to an HD not to a file :/
[22:21] <Viking667> Seveas: hm. I'll try that, but I suspect it won't work. I already commented out gdm by mv'ing /etc/init/gdm.conf to gdm.conf-disabled
[22:21] <dno> Hell o All
[22:21] <sam__> After months of trying everything possible I finally have internet under ubuntu via wireless. I would like to thank the academy of #ubuntu for all their hardwork...
[22:21] <Seveas> Viking667, yeah ok, that'll work too. So no X is starting at boot for you?
[22:21] <sam__> Cept my usb stick light isnt flashing like it does under Windows does that matter?
[22:21] <yarkot> JoeSomebody:  also see unetbootin.sourceforge.net --- I just made several distro USB's this way to test on a new netbook
[22:21] <n8tuser> sam_-> congrats on you being persistent
[22:21] <dno> Any experts have knowledge about mount share from a NAS?
[22:22] <Viking667> Seveas: unless I manually start kdm, no.
[22:22] <mka> ZenMasta1: you can do this, "sudo dd if=backup.gz of=/dev/sd[a/b]1"
[22:22] <Seveas> Viking667, and symlinks to /etc/init.d/kdm are present in /etc/rc2.d etc?
[22:22] <Viking667> X is fine. KDM itself seems fine, but I can't start it from "service" or /etc/init.d/kdm start
[22:22] <epinky> dno: protocol ?
[22:22] <mka> ZenMasta1: you have to confirm the a or b
[22:22] <sam__> n8tuser does it matter if the light isn't flashing on the usb stick
[22:22] <mka> of sda1 or sdb1
[22:22] <Graviton> Viking667: Any error messages when you try?
[22:23] <Viking667> it spits out:  start/running -somepid  but promptly dies with no reason in the kdm.log
[22:23] <Graviton> Hmm
[22:23] <dno> epinky: I am trying to connect 9.10 to my netgear nas.  I can sudo mount cifs but it fails.
[22:23] <mka> ZenMasta1: this command is dangerous
[22:23] <Seveas> Viking667, look at /etc/X11/default-display-manager
[22:23] <ZenMasta1> mka: sorry I don't understand "confirm" unless you mean I need to know exactly which hd I'm restoring from/to etc
[22:23] <Graviton> Is kdm set as default?
[22:23] <ZykoticK9> Seveas, did you try "sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm" and pick kdm?  don't know if this still works in 9.10
[22:23] <ZenMasta1> mka: I'm certain
[22:23] <Seveas> did you update that file to list your preference?
[22:23] <n8tuser> sam_-> it doesnt matter as long as you are able to use the functionality of said device
[22:23] <Seveas> ZykoticK9, Viking667 is having the problem, not me :)
[22:24] <Viking667> agh.
[22:24] <epinky> dno: it does not support other protocols?
[22:24] <Viking667> can't believe it. I'll go peek at that.
[22:24] <Seveas> ZykoticK9, and yeah, that probably still works. And edits that file I just mentioned ;)
[22:24] <mka> ZenMasta1: can you paste the contents of the command "df | grep -i media"
[22:24] <Graviton> Viking667: dpkg-reconfigure kdm
[22:24] <DuckGod> are any of u guys familler with the program wine?
[22:24] <Graviton> Well, with sudo, obviously
[22:24] <Seveas> !anyone | DuckGod
[22:24] <dno> epinky:  I can try from Nautilus, but once I select the share it keeps asking for the password.  It works with my 8.04 box.  But not my 9.10 box.
[22:24] <ZenMasta1> mka: /dev/sdb1            136263292  85220680  51042612  63% /media/backup-drive
[22:24] <ZenMasta1> /dev/sda1            244187968  54254820 189933148  23% /media/desktop-01
[22:25] <ElNombre> heya
[22:25] <mka> ZenMasta1: then "sudo umount /dev/sda1"
[22:25] <mka> ZenMasta1: that will umount sda1
[22:25] <Viking667> Right. I'll go try this again. Thanks for that dpkg-reconfigure. I'd forgotten about that.
[22:25] <Graviton> No problem
[22:25] <ZenMasta1> mka:  done
[22:25] <Xiella> Hi!  I can't load kubuntu (karmic).  I was able to get past the grub loading screen but now it reads [drm:intelfb_restore] *ERROR* Failed to restore crtc configuration -22.  How do I load kubuntu?
[22:25] <DuckGod> how come when i try to play diablo 2 using wine it will load the game but once i try to play it it takes me back to my ubuntu log in screen?
[22:25] <dno> epinky:  Is there come synaptic program that controls authorization or something?
[22:26] <mka> ZenMasta1: and then "sudo dd if=/media/backup-drive/backup.gz of=/dev/sda1" that will restore sda1
[22:26] <epinky> dno: what protocol?
[22:26] <dno> Xiella:  Sounds like a bad sector on your hard drive.
[22:26] <ElNombre> if anyone's got a minute, could I get some help playing DVDs? cheers
[22:26] <sam__> Am going to make a tutorial for anyone that has the same device d link dwa 160, I finally figured it out! w00t
[22:27] <Graviton> !dvd
[22:27] <sam__> No more VISTA!
[22:27] <mattwynne> anyone here using mythbuntu?
[22:27] <mka> ZenMasta1: in any event never delete the backup.gz file until you are sure everything is backed up fine
[22:27] <SuBsAm> hay
[22:27] <tyler_d1> easy oracle query analyzer in ubuntu would be??
[22:27] <SuBsAm> good evening every body
[22:28] <Graviton> Evening, SuBsAm
[22:28] <mka> ZenMasta1: next time you backup the whole drive you should use better applications like partimage.
[22:28] <Xiella> dno: Hmm, how would I solve that?  A friend helped me repartition my hard drive just before I installed Karmic.
[22:28] <jongie> Xiella: can try checking your CD for defects..you can do so during the kubuntu install screen prompt
[22:28] <ZenMasta1> mka:  thanks, it appears to be working. I had no idea there was a gui app so yeah I'll definitely look into that
[22:29] <SuBsAm> i tried to make setup to the ubuntu 9.10
[22:29] <sam__> Xiella hows the external drive you brought?
[22:29] <dno> epinky:  Well, it is like my computer sees the NAS and I can ping it and I can connect to the folders that do NOT have a password.  But for the folders with a password it just keeps asking me for the password.  Somewhere they are not talking when it comes to passwords.
[22:29] <mka> ZenMasta1: that is not a gui either
[22:29] <Daviey> mattwynne: yes
[22:29] <SuBsAm> Graviton from win to linux
[22:29] <ZenMasta1> mka: oh? just easier to use then?
[22:29] <Xiella> jongie: I installed Karmic on release date and don't have the CD with me anymore.  The problem only started 2 days ago.  It was loading fine until then.
[22:29] <calwig> ok so long
[22:29] <calwig> behave and learn
[22:29] <mka> ZenMasta1: it's a user interface but not graphical
[22:29] <SuBsAm> Graviton firstly i make it setup inside win
[22:29] <epinky> dno: netgear ...?
[22:29] <mattwynne> Daviey I have just installed it and it's booting me into an XFCE desktop with no buttons / panels!
[22:29] <Xiella> sam__: heya!  My friend says it's going great thank you! :)
[22:30] <SuBsAm> after this i arrived to reboot
[22:30] <mattwynne> Daviey: any idea how I stop it doing that? I'm not even sure how I open up a terminal prompt from here!
[22:30] <SuBsAm> after reboot nothing
[22:30] <ZenMasta1> mka: alright
[22:30] <mka> ZenMasta1: it's not just easy, it'
[22:30] <dno> epinky:  Yes...
[22:30] <mka> ZenMasta1: its the best
[22:30] <epinky> dno: netgear model
[22:30] <Daviey> mattwynne: sorry, no idea. If it were me,i'd recreate my home
[22:30] <dno> Xiella:  Did you reformat the drive before doing the partition?
[22:31] <SuBsAm> Graviton nothing happeninig after reboot
[22:31] <dno> epinky:  ReadyNAS
[22:31] <SuBsAm> Graviton where is the problem ?
[22:31] <dno> epinky:  Any thoughts?
[22:31] <Concretesledge> HEY
[22:31] <mka> ZenMasta1: Well, my day is over, I have to sleep. It's 00h30AM.
[22:31] <Concretesledge> i am trying to setup RAID, on my new server with fedora
[22:32] <jongie> Xiella: i get it, try running fsck using the root account..you can do this by choosing the recovery options at grub2 menu during boot
[22:32] <ZenMasta1> mka: thanks a bunch, very appreciated
[22:32] <Xiella> dno: I'm not sure, does partitioning not automatically reformat it?
[22:32] <ZenMasta1> mneptok: you too :)
[22:32] <mka> ZenMasta1: no problem
[22:32] <SuBsAm> hay friends
[22:32] <mka> CHEERS GUYS!!!!
[22:32] <SuBsAm> i'm asking for help
[22:32] <nyk2005> How can my system boot without a bootable partition?
[22:32] <mka> ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
[22:32] <Xiella> jongie: alright, I'll try that.  I can just get into root account through recovery mode and type "fsck"?
[22:32] <acouto> hi all i have a problem, i need to install a program but i cant to find the pyhton2.6-xml in ubuntu9.10's repository
[22:32] <Guest42613> Anyone here know ot how get Samsung N130/N120 Netbook wireless driver working? Please I really need help on this
[22:32] <SuBsAm> any body gona to help me ?
[22:33] <jongie> Xiella: yup, let's see if the problem could be related to filesystem error
[22:33] <epinky> dno: The ReadyNAS supports a wide range of protocols, including NFS, AFP, FTP, HTTP, HTTPS and Rsync ..., you're using ...?
[22:33] <nyk2005> I have /dev/sda6 mounted on root, but it's bot bootable and contains /boot. All the other sda* partitions seem ununused, even the largest one sda1.
[22:33] <dno> Xiella:  No, it is like a chalk board the has been erased versus one that was washed.
[22:33] <annoia> I'm trying to convert aac to ac3 on the fly with mplayer, but it seems like libacv doesn't support ac3 encoding (Not in mplayer at any rate). Can I fix this easily?
[22:34] <jongie> Xiella: just type fsck with no parameters at root prompt
[22:34] <parkerlreed> Hey
[22:34] <nyk2005> I mean not bootable
[22:34] <ElNombre> I'm trying to get the libdvdread4 package but I can't find it, any reason why it might be missing from the package manger? :S
[22:34] <Xiella> jongie: um, it says Running e2fsck on a mounted filesystem may cause SEVERE filesystem damage
[22:34] <SuBsAm> hay friends
[22:34] <Xiella> dno: I see...
[22:35] <SuBsAm> can i ask for something
[22:35] <Xiella> jongie: it says /dev/sda6 is mounted
[22:35] <oCean_> !patience | SuBsAm
[22:35] <dno> epinky:  Here is my command sudo mount -t cifs //<IP_ADDRESS>/backup /media/netgear
[22:35] <nyk2005> Is a bootable partition not needed anymore?
[22:36] <SuBsAm> oCean_ hi dude
[22:36] <jongie> Xiella: does /dev/sda6 is your root partition resides?
[22:36] <lobonegro_rlopez> hello, I'm having trouble playing mp4's with totem using gstreamer. i think it might be because I downloaded openshot, but I have since removed it entirely. Still can't play em
[22:36] <vivid> hello, i deleted a bunch of entries from gnome-menu's Applications->Other category.  now my window decorations do not draw and native linux games are crashing.... anyone have ideas on this?
[22:36] <subichan> excuse me, how can I see the content of a certain environment variable on my system?
[22:36] <JoeSomebody> Jordan_U those instructions are not followable, there is no usb-creator.exe on my ubuntu 9.10
[22:36] <Graviton> subichan: echo $VAR
[22:36] <Xiella> jongie: /sda5 and /sda7 are also mounted.  My root partition is sda5.
[22:36] <subichan> thanks
[22:36] <dno> Xiella:  If you just put it on it might be worth reformatting.  If not you may get into some really weird errors or even data loss down the road.
[22:37] <SuBsAm> oCean_ i traying to make install to ubuntu 9.10
[22:37] <Graviton> No problem
[22:37] <epinky> dno: then include : sudo mount -t cifs -o username=NAME,password=PASSWORD //<IP_ADDRESS>/backup /media/netgear
[22:37] <nyk2005> vivid: did you somehow modifiy your mesa config?
[22:38] <vivid> nyk2005, no
[22:38] <Xiella> dno: Hmm, I see.  The liveCD I used belongs to my friend, so I don't have it with me right now, and I'm not sure how to make one.  I'm also not sure how to reformat and what partitions I should reformat...
[22:38] <dno> epinky:  I can add that too, but either one gives memount error(13): Permission denied
[22:38] <dno> Refer to the mount.cifs(8) manual page (e.g. man mount.cifs)
[22:38] <vivid> nyk2005, i deleted like 30 entries from alacarte in the Applications->Other section i didnt think needed to be there, apparently i was wrong
[22:38] <xrdodrx> !livecd | Xiella
[22:39] <peu> oi alguem ai pode me dar umas dicas sobre o debian linux
[22:39] <xrdodrx> !iso | Xiella
[22:39] <IdleOne> !br | peu
[22:39] <nyk2005> vivid: strange, this must be a bug. because it shouldn't happen
[22:39] <JoeSomebody> can someone help me make a usb installer?
[22:39] <dno> Xiella:  one thing you need to make sure is that when you make live cd's you verify the make5sum
[22:40] <Xiella> xrdodrx: dno: at the moment I'm still poised on the verge of a fsck, I can't really make a live CD right now
[22:40] <dno> Xiella:  That verifies the download is valid.
[22:40] <jongie> Xiella: btw, have you successfully installed kubuntu?
[22:40] <yarkot> JoeSomebody:   go to http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/,    and download that
[22:40] <vivid> nyk2005, do you know where these (i assume they are .desktop entries since they were in alacarte) are located on the drive?
[22:40] <nyk2005> vivid: but the presence of the menu items alone can't be required, something else must be broken
[22:40] <Xiella> dno: I see
[22:40] <xrdodrx> Xiella: Ugh, none oc these quite say what I am trying to, to make a livecd, download the iso and then burn it to a disk
[22:40] <epinky> dno: have you tried with smbfs ?
[22:41] <yarkot> it couldn't be easier - run as sudo, and pick an *iso, and a target usb... done!
[22:41] <Xiella> jongie: yes, I installed it nearly 2 weeks ago and it was running fine for at least a week
[22:41] <lobonegro_rlopez> hello, I'm having trouble playing mp4's with totem using gstreamer. i think it might be because I downloaded openshot, but I have since removed it entirely. Still can't play em
[22:41] <JoeSomebody> yarkot thanks
[22:41] <nyk2005> vivid: in one of the gnome hidden directories. depends on you gnome version how their called and organized.
[22:41] <dispalt> why isn't postgres 8.4 in jaunty?
[22:41] <yarkot> JoeSomebody: np ;-)
[22:41] <jongie> Xiella: were u able to get to root prompt using the recovery options?
[22:41] <Xiella> xrdodrx: Ah.. right.  I don't own a blank disk and have never burnt anything before, I would probably have to get one and learn how to first
[22:41] <JoeSomebody> yarkot works from windows too?
[22:41] <Xiella> jongie: Yes, I was
[22:41] <dispalt> there is an ibex and hardy backport, but no jaunty...
[22:41] <nyk2005> vivid: like .gnome or .gnome2 or .config or .local
[22:42] <Xiella> jongie: but it says 3 partitions are mounted and that running fsck might cause severe damage
[22:42] <xrdodrx> lobonegro_rlopez: Does "mplayer file.mp4" yield anything?
[22:42] <dno> epinky:  Yes. both smbfs and cifs give me the same error.  That is why I think it is a protocol, handshake or something.
[22:42] <vivid> nyk2005, ok ill try to copy some of them back from another system
[22:42] <ElNombre> hey guys, does anyone know where I can get the libdvdread4 package? I'm following a guide that tells me to download it but i can't find it anywhere
[22:42] <nvme> every time i try to write to an ntfs partition in ubuntu i end up breaking that partition, windows keeps saying its damaged but checkdisk says there is nothing wrong with it, anyone know whats wrong her ?
[22:42] <lobonegro_rlopez> xrdodrx:in the command line?
[22:42] <nyk2005> But my question: It it necessary to have a partition with the bootable flag?
[22:43] <xrdodrx> lobonegro_rlopez: Yes
[22:43] <yarkot> JoeSomebody: yes (although I've only run from Linux - one way to make boot USB's for any distro)
[22:43] <nyk2005> vivid: well ok, but if this fixes it, it would be strange
[22:43] <lobonegro_rlopez> xrdodrx:mplayer: symbol lookup error: mplayer: undefined symbol: codec_wav_tags
[22:44] <first_test> Hi. I want to change my resolution and I don't
[22:44] <first_test> can you help me
[22:44] <dno> epinky:  is there a way to see the output of the communication between the two after the command is executed?
[22:44] <jongie> Xiella: well, if you can take the risk you might try running fsck -a this would automatically repair file system without any questions
[22:44] <xrdodrx> lobonegro_rlopez: Do you have ubuntu-restricted-extras ?
[22:44] <Xiella> jongie: I was googling my error and it shows up as a kernel bug or something?  I don't understand what that is
[22:44] <lobonegro_rlopez> xrdordx:yes
[22:45] <yarkot> first_test: go to the menu:  System->Preferences->Display
[22:45] <Xiella> jongie: hmm, I don't have a recent backup of /home at the moment and I'm not sure what sort of risk I'd be taking
[22:45] <first_test> Thank yarkot.
[22:45] <Xiella> jongie: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/404421 - not sure what it means.
[22:45] <yarkot> first_test: NP :-)
[22:45] <first_test> Thanks yarkot. I find it.
[22:46] <epinky> dno: I don't think so, it'll better if you check your NAS logs
[22:46] <nyk2005> How can I see what exactly is need for the system to boot? I ask because I have my root partition on sda6, and sda1 to sda5 are unused. But sda1 is bootable and I wonder if it has some function. Does it contain the MBR?
[22:46] <dno> epinky:  ok thanks
[22:46] <daveed> Hi
[22:46] <xrdodrx> lobonegro_rlopez: If you convert it to another format, will it work? (I'm just trying to figure out if you have the proper codecs, this is isn't a fix) try ffmpeg -i file.mp4 file.ogg
[22:47] <Graviton> nyk2005: Try to look in your /etc/fstab
[22:47] <GUcko1> guys I can't hear any sound in Pidgin! I uses 9.1
[22:47] <GUcko1> .9.10
[22:47] <nyk2005> Graviton: nothing in there, only sda6 is used
[22:47] <daveed> I'm testing a video chat system- if anyone can help, I'd really appreciate it.
[22:47] <daveed> Check it out at https://uk.megameeting.com/?page=guest&conid=613
[22:47] <GUcko1> it's so weird
[22:47] <laclasse> nyk2005, fdisk -l
[22:47] <Graviton> Hmhm, how about sudo fdisk -l /dev/sda
[22:47] <nyk2005> Graviton: but it doesn't have the bootable flag. so it's not needed for anything?
[22:47] <xrdodrx> GUcko1: Try "pasuspender pidgin" in the terminal
[22:47] <daveed> this is not an ad or anything dirty...just looking for beta testers...chat about ubuntu too!
[22:47] <Flootenkerp> Hi, does anyone know how I can get mupen64 running? It just dims my lights and shows a black empty screen when I run emulation.
[22:47] <lobonegro_rlopez> xrdordx: ffmpeg not installed
[22:47] <nvme> every time i try to write to an ntfs partition in ubuntu i end up breaking that partition, windows keeps saying its damaged but checkdisk says there is nothing wrong with it, anyone know whats wrong her ?
[22:48] <lobonegro_rlopez> xrdordx:should i install it?
[22:48] <nyk2005> laclasse: fdisk -l just shows me they exist, but apparently they're not mounted anywhere or referenced from fstab.
[22:48] <xrdodrx> lobonegro_rlopez: I would, it's quite a useful tool
[22:48] <ElNombre> I need help playing DVDs, I've followed all the guides I can find, and I've installed every package I can... no matter what I try, I always get the same problem - it stutters and skips and it's just unwatchable, can anyone help me pelase?
[22:48] <GUcko1> xrdodrx: the output of the command: "Exiting because another libpurple client is already running."
[22:48] <Graviton> nyk2005: What type of partitions are they
[22:48] <nyk2005> ElNombre: tried mplayer dvd:// ?
[22:49] <laclasse> nyk2005, if you are wondering the jump in partition numbering, it is due to using an extended partition
[22:49] <ElNombre> nyk2005: sorry, what do you mean? I've tried using lots of different media players, it's always the exact same
[22:49] <annoia> I'm trying to convert aac to ac3 on the fly with mplayer, but it seems like libacv doesn't support ac3 encoding (lavcac3enc) (Not in mplayer at any rate). Can I fix this easily?
[22:49] <ElNombre> VCL is the least bit,
[22:49] <ElNombre> er, sorry, least bad*
[22:49] <xrdodrx> ElNombre: He wants you to type that in a terminal
[22:49] <ElNombre> I can sometimes play for the first 20 seconds and it's fine, but then the suttering starts
[22:49] <ElNombre> ah, okay, sorry
[22:50] <Xiella> jongie: any idea what the bug is about?  I don't think I should try fsck right now as the risks seem fairly high and I know I don't have a recent backup.
[22:50] <GUcko1> xrdodrx: so?
[22:50] <laclasse> annoia, isn't aac 2 channels, and ac3 5? you need some software mixing there to 'create' 3 more channels from the audio, no ?
[22:50] <nyk2005> Graviton: linux, extented, swap. I think  they're leftovers from a partitioning attempt during install. because I installed from a remote console,which was very unstable and had to quickly repeat partitioning and didn't delete the old ones..
[22:50] <eyescutout> hello, could you please recommend me lightweight media player for ubuntu/xfce?
[22:50] <annoia> laclasse - AAC can be more channels.
[22:50] <ElNombre> nyk2005: I typed it into the terminal, I have a bunch of text now, what should I be looking for?
[22:51] <xrdodrx> GUcko1: I'm not ignoring you, I'm just bit sure
[22:51] <laclasse> annoia, ok
[22:51] <xrdodrx> Not*
[22:51] <defrysk> eyescutout, VLC IS QUITE GOOD
[22:51] <defrysk> oops caps sorry
[22:51] <xrdodrx> eyescutout: mplayer
[22:51] <eyescutout> thanks all!
[22:51] <lobonegro_rlopez> xrdodrx: here's what it gave me http://paste.ubuntu.com/317330/
[22:51] <nyk2005> ElNombre: or just try to play one of the VOBs using mplayer.
[22:52] <Graviton> nyk2005: Ok, sounds strange, I would have thought that the bootable flag was needed on the partition containing your /boot dir, but from what you're saying, I understand that you can boot your box?
[22:52] <GUcko1> xrdodrx: plz say me name
[22:52] <GUcko1> xrdodrx: what does that command do?
[22:52] <nyk2005> Graviton: yes... must be the new way grub works, which I don't know so well..
[22:52] <Graviton> Guess so ...
[22:52] <m4rk> hello, the notifications on my ubuntu 9.10 appear too low on the screen...does anyone know why?
[22:52] <harjot_> how would i extract a frame from an mpeg?
[22:53] <nyk2005> Graviton: but where is the MBR located? on one of the partitions?
[22:53] <Graviton> No, the first 512B, afair
[22:53] <ElNombre> nyk2005: when I start browsing the DVD my whole computer starts stuttering... could this mean the hardware is the problem?
[22:53] <Graviton> Possibly the first 512KB
[22:53] <billybigrigger> harjot_, use vlc/totem/whatever to take a screenshot?
[22:53] <alfonzo19> do u kno why ubuntu 9.10 netbook remix wifi does not work on mini 10v
[22:53] <xrdodrx> GUcko1: Stops pulseaudio for one process, it usually fixes my sound issues
[22:53] <alfonzo19> ???
[22:54] <harjot_> billybigrigger: i use kaffeine and when i try to take a screenshot it goes blue but il try with mplayer etc
[22:54] <alfonzo19> does anyone hav a solution to my problem?
[22:54] <GUcko1> xrdodrx: will it solve my problem permanently or temporarily?
[22:54] <xrdodrx> lobonegro_rlopez: O.O You're just not having any luck today, are you? I'm all out of suggestions, sorry...
[22:55] <lobonegro_rlopez> m4rk: it's supposed to be that way, but if you want to return them, http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-restore-notifications-position-in-ubuntu-9-10-as-they-did-in-ubuntu-9-04.html
[22:55] <Graviton> nyk2005: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Master_boot_record
[22:55] <domjohnson> goodnight everyone
[22:55] <ElNombre> night
[22:55] <Docteh> harjot_: take a look in the media player options for something involving the overlay
[22:55] <xrdodrx> GUcko1: Depends on if you think that it'd be okay to always run pidgin with that command
[22:56] <nyk2005> harjot_: you might have to use a different display mode in mplayer (vesa?) to allow screenshots... or just export the images using mplayer.
[22:56] <ElNombre> nyk2005: I've tried opening the VOBs in mplayer, exactly the same thing happens
[22:56] <alfonzo19> Please does anyone know why Ubuntu 9.10 Wifi does not work on the Mini 10v?
[22:56] <nyk2005> ElNombre: if you copy them to hdd first too?
[22:56] <harjot_> nyk2005: ho would i export?
[22:56] <ElNombre> oh, good idea, I'll try that
[22:57] <webm0nk3y> ?
[22:57] <GUcko1> xrdodrx: I just want to make Pidgin plays sounds without affecting other software or process. As I read, that command will stop a process from accessing the Audio devices. I guess that will make problems!
[22:57] <qed> I have an i386 driver for a touchpad that I want to install on amd64 -- Can I force it?  How risky do you think it is?  It's just a USB touchpad.
[22:57] <qed> How do you force an i386 .deb pkg on amd64?
[22:57] <nyk2005> Graviton: so the MBR stays untouched even if I would delete the bootable sda1?
[22:57] <m4rk> lobonegro_rlopez: tyhanks
[22:58] <nyk2005> harjot_: dont remember (man mplayer)... but just for saving frames of a movie avidemux is easier
[22:58] <Graviton> nyk2005: Indeed
[22:58] <GUcko1> isn't there just a standard and a good way to let Pidgin play sounds?
[22:59] <nyk2005> Graviton: cool thanks, so I try
[22:59] <mattwynne> can anyone recommend a guide for changing my kernel version?
[22:59] <harjot_> ok
[22:59] <Graviton> But you know the saying: "If it aint broke..."
[22:59] <ElNombre> nyk2005: I've copied a file over, it won't run though, and it has a little padlock icon. But since the whole computer stutters when I'm browsing the DVD, I'm guessing the hardware is at fault?
[22:59] <GUcko1> mattwynne: update your syste?
[22:59] <ElNombre> nyk2005: wait, nevermind, I'm able to open it in VLC, it still stutters
[22:59] <gmspence_> is there anyway i can set my volume to always be at max whenever computer swiched on - for some reason my box keeps on resetting volume down to low
[22:59] <mattwynne> I am suffering from this bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/366606
[22:59] <mattwynne> GUcko1 so I want to downgrade my kernel
[23:00] <nyk2005> Graviton: is there a better partioning tool than fdisk for linux? than can eg merge partitions as partitionmagic could?
[23:00] <mattwynne> seems like 2.6.27-11-generic is the one I need
[23:00] <GUcko1> mattwynne: just select the kernel version from GRUB
[23:00] <Graviton> gparted
[23:00] <mattwynne> GUcko1 do I not need to install it somewhere first?
[23:00] <Graviton> I think, anyway
[23:01] <epinky> alfonzo19: System->Administration-> Hardware Drivers
[23:01] <nyk2005> ElNombre: so something is too slow I guess? it also stutters from hdd? is your video card using it proper driver?
[23:01] <mweichert> hello, I'm messed up my keyrings. I forgot the password I set so I deleted everything in ~/.gnome2/keyrings. Now, if I connect to a server using Nautilus and choose to save my password forever, I don't get asked if I want to store the password in my default (and therefore don't get asked for my keyring password)
[23:01] <GUcko1> mattwynne: have you tried google?
[23:01] <defrysk> [
[23:01] <GUcko1> mattwynne: http://linuxd.wordpress.com/2008/11/26/how-to-downgrade-the-kernel-in-ubuntu-810-the-easy-way/
[23:01] <mattwynne> GUcko1 thanks I had but was a bit swamped with the results
[23:02] <jongie> Xiella: do u have the kubuntu live cd?
[23:02] <ElNombre> nyk2005: when I was using windows DVDs played fine, so it's not a hardware issue. I've installed graphics drivers and I can play other media files fine, so I think my graphics card is working okay
[23:02] <GUcko1> mattwynne: how about the link I gave it to you?
[23:02] <nvme> every time i try to write to an ntfs partition in ubuntu i end up breaking that partition, windows keeps saying its damaged but checkdisk says there is nothing wrong with it, anyone know whats wrong here ?
[23:02] <mattwynne> GUcko1 that looks like exactly what I need - thanks very much :)
[23:02] <Xiella> jongie: No, I don't have it sorry, it belonged to my friend.  I also don't own a blank one so I can't make one myself right now.
[23:02] <ElNombre> nyk2005: but yeah it is stuttering from the hard drive, so maybe my computer is having problems playing the VOG format..?
[23:02] <GUcko1> !karma
[23:03] <GUcko1> GUcko1:++
[23:04] <Xiella> jongie: I restarted and I got to the kubuntu loading screen.  It says "filesystem checks are in progress" - I assume these are automatic.  Is that the same as running fsck in root?
[23:05] <nyk2005> ElNombre: is it an old computer?
[23:05] <spossible> Ho un problema grave con Kmail e akonadi dopo aggiornamento 9.04 a 9.10qualcuno può darmi una mano
[23:05] <ElNombre> nyk2005: it's not amazingly new but like I say, DVDs still run find under windows
[23:05] <epinky> !it| spossible
[23:05] <sevdalin> !why is ubuntu sux ;]
[23:06] <Xiella> jongie: there is a workaround for my issue listed at launchpad (i can give the link again if you want).  It involves "Workaround: Add i915.modeset=0 to the kernel cmdline args".  I don't know how to do that or if that's a dangerous thing to do.
[23:06] <nyk2005> ElNombre: what video card=
[23:06] <jieafj> hi, question, its not directly ubuntu-related but im an ubuntu user so i figured id ask for help here. some particular websites wont load on my PC, whether i use firefox or chromium or epiphany, and they wont load on my windows partition either. i know the sites are good because i can access that easily from on-campus (daylife.com for example) but not here. i changed to openDNS wondering if it was a DNS issue but i still cant acce
[23:06] <jongie> Xiella: in some situations system-initiated fsck may fail..running it manually usually solves the problem though
[23:06] <ElNombre> nyk2005: ATI Radeon HD 2600 XT
[23:06] <gmspence_> is there anyway I can set my volume to maximum on my gnome desktop and keep it that way - whenever i reboot the computer it always seems to go back to either low or half way...the machine is also accessed remotely via an NX session.  I want it at max and it for to stay there....any suggestions
[23:06] <Xiella> jongie: ah, I see
[23:07] <nyk2005> ElNombre: and X is using the ati driver or just vesa?
[23:07] <m4rk> ubuntugeek.com is down :(
[23:07] <jongie> Xiella: ok can i see the post?
[23:08] <ElNombre> nyk2005: I'm pretty sure I installed an ATI driver when I installed ubuntu, I was initially having similar problems playing any media at all, but after I installed the drivers it started working
[23:08] <phyrrus> If you need support with fluxbox in ubuntu, join #ubuntu-fluxbox
[23:08] <Xiella> jongie: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/404421
[23:09] <epinky> jieafj: try using a proxy
[23:11] <wamcvey1> Greetings all... I had my (pcmcia 802.11G) wireless card working under Gutsy through ndiswrappers... it was well past time to upgrade, so I plugged the laptop into a regular ole ethernet and did the gutsy->hardy->intreped->jaunty and finally up to karmic, now my wireless isn't connecting. I can see my wireless net (using WPA2 with PSK), but get connection.
[23:11] <Bookman> I cannot seem to play flash videos in firefox.  Is there a fix for that?
[23:11] <ElNombre> bookman: have you downloaded flash player and stuff?
[23:11] <Bookman> ElNombre: yup
[23:11] <jieafj> epinky: can you give me a site. im looking around and cant really find anything
[23:12] <ElNombre> bookman: has it ever worked?
[23:12] <wamcvey1> Bookman, you have: adobe-flashplugin installed?
[23:12] <Bookman> wamcvey1: yes
[23:12] <Bookman> ElNombre: yes
[23:12] <ElNombre> bookman: so it just randomly stopped working? reinstall flash? not sure, I'm here for help too :P
[23:13] <KitsuneDragon> does anyone know good time management software for Ubuntu? like planning?
[23:13] <Bookman> No problem.  XP still works on my system.  I did not delete it!
[23:13] <wamcvey1> Bookman: the plugin gets installed where Firefox should find it, but you can try building a link from /usr/lib/adobe-flashplugin/libflashplayer.so  to ~/.mozilla/plugins/libflashplayer.so
[23:13] <pbbd> does anyone know if there is a way to play protected .wmv files on ubuntu?
[23:13] <nyk2005> Strange I have 3 partitions: sda2, sda5, sda6. but when I delete sda2, the other 2 also dissapear!
[23:14] <jongie> Xiella: try this i don't know if this works out in your situation. at the grub menu press "e" then just append the entry "i915.modeset=0" without qoutes, press ESC then presss "b" to boot
[23:14] <Jordan_U> nyk2005: Is sda2 the extended partition
[23:14] <mystic_> hello to all.  Recently upgraded to 9.10.  All went well with the exception of the the screen resolution.  600x800 & 640x400 were only available options.  Successfully used xrandr to add additional values.  Problem is I'm back to square one after a reboot.  Would like to make values permanent.  Thank you in advance for help given.
[23:14] <badp> Is there a channel dedicated to sounds problems? I have a minor inconvenience
[23:14] <nyk2005> And why did sda6 and sda7 become sda5 and sda6 as I deleted sda4? Is there a way I can change them back to the old numbers? Or else I have to change that in fstab and grub...
[23:15] <nyk2005> Jordan_U: yes
[23:15] <Xiella> jongie: okay, I will try that, does modifying that have much chance of messing up my system permanently?
[23:15] <badp> (Oh, and hello gents.)
[23:15] <ElNombre> nyk2005: sorry if I'm being impatient, but are you still with me man?
[23:15] <Bookman> wamcvey1: no problem.  As I said, XP works fine still.
[23:15] <Jordan_U> nyk2005: Since the other partitions are contained withing sda2 that makes perfect sense
[23:15] <pbbd> is there is a way to play protected .wmv files on ubuntu?
[23:15] <Jordan_U> s/wining/within
[23:15] <jongie> Xiella: the source says nothing on any risks
[23:16]  * Jordan_U can't type today
[23:16] <KitsuneDragon> pbbd: do you have the wmv codec installed?
[23:16] <nyk2005> ElNombre: yes, but I'm out of ideas, sorry!
[23:16] <wamcvey1> pbbd: if the .wmv is "protected" with DRM, I doubt it without doing a lot of work.
[23:16] <epinky> pbbd: open a terminal and type :  sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[23:16] <jongie> Xiella: as far as i know, this is one way of passing extra parameters on the kernel during boot time
[23:16] <Bookman> wamcvey1: Ubuntu is good for play, not for work.
[23:16] <ElNombre> nyk2005: don't worry man, thanks for the help :)
[23:16] <pbbd> KitsuneDragon,  i get the error "The stream is encrypted and decryption is not supported."
[23:17] <KitsuneDragon> wamcvey1: I wonder if there is a drm cracker on buntu?
[23:17] <Xiella> jongie: sweet, thank you, trying that now.  I couldn't press e so trying it again.
[23:17] <wamcvey1> Bookman: I've been using Ubuntu as my main workstation OS for... oh... 5+ years or so.
[23:17] <pbbd> epinky,  i have done that
[23:17] <pbbd> epinky,  but i still get the same error
[23:17] <nyk2005> Jordan_U: I see... so if I want to use all the free space on the hdd (while still retaining sda5 and sda6), I have to enlarge sda2 using parted?
[23:17] <grub_booter> Bookman: am with wamcvey1 - and so are many of my colleagues
[23:17] <wamcvey1> Bookman: well... maybe 4...
[23:17] <Xiella> jongie: hmm, I still couldn't press e, or if I did it didn't come up with anything (just showed the Recovery menu as if I hadn't pressed anything)
[23:18] <nyk2005> Jordan_U: instead of deleting sda2 and then creating a new partition using all free space...
[23:18] <wamcvey1> the trick (I've found) is to get decent hardware that has a hope of being supported and well tested.
[23:18] <wamcvey1> too new and you have problems... too exotic and you can have problems.
[23:18] <jongie> Xiella: press ESC immediately before it goes on booting up ubuntu
[23:18] <kostkon> pbbd, encrypted windows media stream?
[23:18] <Bookman> wamcvey1: no problem, it is just not for my hardware.
[23:19] <Xiella> jongie: ah... let me try that again
[23:19] <pbbd> kostkon, i download my lecture files from class and they are encrypted (if i open in windows media player in xp they download license and play fine)
[23:19] <KitsuneDragon> pbbd: sounds like drm right?
[23:19] <pbbd> KitsuneDragon, yeah i assume so
[23:20] <Bookman> wamcvey1: hey, can't work on every platform.....I still have one machine on Ubuntu.  The other 5 are a no go
[23:20] <nyk2005> it's like this: sda2      start: 28.0GB  end: 32.0GB  size: 4047MB  type: extended
[23:20] <Xiella> jongie: so I press e on the grub screen, on the normal version of Ubuntu (not recovery mode)?
[23:20] <kostkon> pbbd, hmm. ok. i don't think it's possible to play them on ubutnu. the only way could be to burn them on a cd and then extract them as mp3s for example.
[23:20] <KitsuneDragon> pbbd: I dont think you can....
[23:20] <nyk2005> and  5      28.0GB  30.5GB  2500MB  logical   ext4
[23:20] <jongie> Xiella: yes the default linux image
[23:20] <pbbd> kostkon, okay thanks
[23:20] <nyk2005> strange that sda5 and sda2 use the same space of the disk!
[23:20] <pbbd> KitsuneDragon, alright, thanks, is there any DRM removal software?
[23:20] <jongie> Xiella: not recovery options
[23:21] <KitsuneDragon> pbbd: it is illegal and I think a google search will find a windows program for that
[23:21] <Xiella> jongie: right.  I am now on the edit screen.  I'm looking for the line that ends with "quiet splash" but it's a very long line that wraps around.  Not sure what to edit?
[23:21] <pbbd> KitsuneDragon, okay thanks, also last question is there a force quit for an application thats not responding in ubuntu?
[23:22] <pbbd> KitsuneDragon, nevermind found it
[23:22] <KitsuneDragon> pbbd: yeah theres a gnome applet and alt F2 then type xkill should work too
[23:22] <KitsuneDragon> pbbd: oh ok
[23:22] <Xiella> jongie: the line begins with "linux /vmlinuz-2.6.31-14-generic root=UUID.........(goes on with lots of numbers and letters)" and ends with "ro     quiet splash"
[23:22] <grub_booter> Bookman: hmm - i have 7 here (varying brands, 2 x dell, 1 x tosh, 2 x asus, 2 x macs) all running ubuntu just fine (all upgraded to karmic fine too, apart from 1 dell [nvidia driver issues - fixed automatically on reboot] and the other dell i'm keeping on 9.04 for now for work compatability issues [yes, i have a lot of computers :-) - i only tend to use about 2 at a time though :-))
[23:23] <jongie> Xiella: just append at the end of the line separate with space
[23:23] <Bookman> grub_booter: awesome.  I wish I was so lucky.
[23:24] <sam__> ping
[23:24] <Nehal> i have a file with permission 644 (specifically /var/log/apache2/error.log), but one user cannot read this file (permission denied), why could this be happening?
[23:25] <phoenixz> I see a laptop from somebody, df -h gives me this : /dev/loop0             17G  4,5G   11G  29% /    The root ( / ) filesystem is a loop device. This persons says its a standard 9.10 install, he didnt do anythign weird, but how can the root filesystem b e a loop device? is this an encrypted filesystem or something?
[23:25] <gerrh> anyone own a lenovo s12 and have this experience after applying the latest updates? i get past bios post and when it is about to load the bootloader nothing more happens. cursor blinks in top left corner and neither caps or num lock reacts. i've tried any possible combination of boot order in bios and no matter what usb port i use i get the single underscore blinking in the top left corner.
[23:25] <Xiella> jongie: Not quite sure what to write.  should I change the line "linux  .... quiet splash" to "linux ..... quiet splash i915.modeset=0"?  I am still fairly new to ubuntu, sorry
[23:25] <nyk2005> this is just complely illogical: http://pastebin.com/m8cbd276
[23:25] <nyk2005> how can I fix *this*?
[23:26] <nyk2005> (it's parted output)
[23:26] <RebelZero> Nehal, it might be that the /var/log/apache2 directory does not have read access for others
[23:26] <nyk2005> ah shit... maybe I understand..
[23:26] <Nehal> RebelZero: i checked that, it does, as do /var and /var/log
[23:26] <jongie> Xiella: no, just go to the end of the line, do not delete anything, use your right arrow key towards the end of the line
[23:26] <MoTec> nyk2005: nothing wrong with that.
[23:26] <MoTec> nyk2005: that #2 is just a wrapper for 5 and 6
[23:27] <jongie> Xiella: r u there already?
[23:27] <nyk2005> MoTec: ah... I could just add an other local partition of size 2gb or so..
[23:27] <Xiella> jongie: Thanks, my cursor is now at the end of the line
[23:27] <nyk2005> MoTec: but why are they called 5 and 6? and not 6 and 7 as they were before? the kernel does not like it!
[23:27] <MoTec> nyk2005: looks like you have around 1.3gb available in that extended partition, still.
[23:27] <jongie> Xiella: now append i915.modeset=0
[23:27] <MoTec> do not know.
[23:28] <nyk2005> Is there any way to change that numbers?
[23:28] <Nehal> RebelZero: ok, /var/log/apache2 had read access for others, it also needed execute access for others, ... i never knew that
[23:29] <Xiella> jongie: it now looks like "linux ........... ro    quiet splash i915.modeset=0".  Is that right?
[23:29] <RebelZero> Nehal, ah yes... 5s instead of 4s
[23:29] <spO> hi
[23:29] <nyk2005> ah, maybe fdisk "fix partition order"...
[23:29] <nyk2005> anyone tried that?
[23:29] <nyk2005> doesnt do anything, sorry
[23:29] <loginfliggle> ...not so sure if id give x to all of /var...
[23:29] <jongie> Xiella: yeah that's it. press ESC then press b
[23:29] <spO> any of you install karmic then your 1080p movies start skipping or something similar?  I have coreavc installed, but apparently the video is out of sync or there is times when i have to go back
[23:30] <Xiella> jongie: Okay.  It doesn't matter that the "quiet splash" and the "i915.modeset=0" are switched around? (based on the bug page thing)
[23:31] <nyk2005> ah fixed it... filling the extened partition restored the ordering!
[23:31] <alfonzo19> We're Here, We're Queer, We Have E-Mail
[23:31] <alfonzo19> Please does anyone know why Ubuntu 9.10 Wifi does not work on the Mini 10v?
[23:31] <epinky> alfonzo19: System->Administration-> Hardware Drivers
[23:32] <alfonzo19> I tried
[23:32] <jongie> Xiella: imho, it doesn't matter
[23:32] <alfonzo19> nothing was there
[23:32] <Xiella> jongie: okay, thank you
[23:32] <mattwynne> still struggling to downgrade my kernel :(
[23:32] <mattwynne> linux-image doesn't seem to have a package for the version I want
[23:32] <jongie> Xiella: brb
[23:32] <epinky> alfonzo19: then you don't have propietary drivers installed
[23:32] <nvme> every time i copy ext4 files over to an NTFS partition (formatted in windows 7) , windows starts saying the partition is corrupt or damaged, but chkdsk has no errors, and the files are all there in ubuntu still
[23:32] <alfonzo19> how do i get them
[23:32] <alfonzo19> i am a noob
[23:33] <Xiella> jongie: Okies.  I pressed escape but couldn't press b - I guess b = boot.  I can boot by pressing enter as I am now on the grub screen again.
[23:33] <jongie> Xiella: does the same thing..
[23:33] <Y0SHI> hi
[23:34] <stalis> hello
[23:34] <Xiella> jongie: Okay :) It didn't work, still have the failed to restore crtc configuration message
[23:34] <mattwynne> I want to downgrade my kernel to 2.6.27-11-generic (because of https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/366606) but the lowest I can find is 2.6.28-16-generic
[23:34] <jongie> Xiella: brb
[23:34] <Xiella> jongie: okay
[23:34] <mattwynne> how hard is it to build a kernel image by hand?
[23:34] <mattwynne> where could I find some instructions on doing that?
[23:34] <erUSUL> !kernel | mattwynne
[23:35] <epinky> alfonzo19: don't you have a disc?
[23:35] <Sertse> can I use the ubuntu gdm and xsplash on xubuntu?
[23:35] <virtuald> Xiella: Try removing the modeset option
[23:36] <benc1> is it ok that a folder name will be example.com ?
[23:36] <stalis> Anyone have any experience with getting the WN311T PCI Wireless card driver with Karmic and the latest version of ndiswrapper 1.54?
[23:36] <Y0SHI> I've got a problem, I have ubuntu 9.10 running and I want to connect a Epson DX 5050, use it as a printer (maby scanner), but just Black/White printing... How can I get this done, atm printer is giving errror because empty color cartridge (which is stupid, because i just wanna print b/w)
[23:36] <erUSUL> benc1: sure; i do not see why not
[23:36] <benc1> erUSUL: thanks
[23:36] <Xiella> virtuald: How should I do that?
[23:37] <mattwynne> erUSUL thanks - do you think there are any (less scary) alternatives in order to get my card working on 9.10 ?
[23:37] <erUSUL> mattwynne: which card ?
[23:37] <Y0SHI>  WN311T PCI Wireless
[23:37] <mattwynne> erUSUL: see https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/366606 - it's a Nebula DigiTV DVB card
[23:37] <Y0SHI> :o sorry
[23:37] <mattwynne> seems like the newer kernel doesn't work with the driver
[23:38] <Y0SHI> anyone who knows a solution to my printer problem
[23:38] <Y0SHI> would be very much appreciated
[23:39] <LordHawke13> Hey guys!
[23:39] <Blue1> Y0SHI: i have an hp printer - dunno about brother  but it requires both print cartridges - you can set preferences in cups though as to what cartridge to use
[23:39] <LordHawke13> Does anyone know how to manually clean up the Nautilus "Open With. . ." menu?
[23:40] <spO> so, i install karmic and now my mplayer plays 1080p movies not so well, any of you have this problem?
[23:40] <LordHawke13> I upgraded to Karmic, now Banshee can't see my iPod.
[23:40] <LordHawke13> I guess Koalas don't like music. . .
[23:41] <Y0SHI> not borther, epson
[23:41] <Blue1> LordHawke13: can ubuntu see it?  hint dmesg
[23:41] <erUSUL> mattwynne: clearly a kernel regression you will have to wait till they fix it...
[23:41] <Y0SHI> but there is no way to reset the cartritge
[23:41] <lepban> write a kernel hack and recompile
[23:41] <LordHawke13> Blue1: Hmm. . . ? See what?
[23:41] <lepban> EASY!
[23:41] <Blue1> LordHawke13: your ipod
[23:42] <Blue1> Y0SHI: you can select cartidge in cups --
[23:42] <LordHawke13> It mounts just fine and other MPlayers work, but I'm configured to work well with Banshee and don't want to have to use Rhythmbox.
[23:42] <kisuke> can someone help me figure out why gnome has stopped reading my keyboard?
[23:42] <phoenixz> kisuke: I've had that before with KDE as well.. suddenly keyboard just is.. dead
[23:43] <Roasted> Cairo Dock Users - Is there any way I can configure the dock so when I get an IM, that the icon for that IM does something to notify me I got a message?
[23:43] <phoenixz> kisuke: its rare, but I've seen it more than once
[23:43] <LordHawke13> Blue1: It had been working fine until I went Karmic.
[23:43] <LordHawke13> Blue1: Now it's just Banshee that can't see it.
[23:43] <Blue1> LordHawke13: okay but does linux see it when you plug it in?
[23:43] <kisuke> phoenixz: works on KDE just not gnome
[23:43] <Blue1> LordHawke13: ahh can't help with banshee
[23:44] <LordHawke13> Blue1: It mounts just fine. I can browse it and everything and even use Rhythmbox, even though I don't want to.
[23:44] <ryan\n> I'm trying to install Ubuntu Remix from USB, i've followed the instructions but its not appearing be bootable.
[23:44] <kisuke> phoenixz: how did you fix it?
[23:45] <LordHawke13> Blue1: It's only Banshee that can't see it. Any ideas?
[23:45] <hw-and-sw> hoka
[23:45] <worldwarcheese> Hi there, can someone help me? I have a weird graphics issue
[23:46] <blue0488> I have some audio books and when I put them on my mp3 it is too quiet is there a program that I can use to increase the audio all at once?????
[23:46] <buttons840> ping
[23:46] <epinky> !ask | worldwarcheese
[23:46] <Pedrolito> is it possible to change my username once the account has been created and used for a while?
[23:47] <worldwarcheese> I've installed my nvidia drivers and everything should be working normal but when I try to put ubuntu into custom graphics for compiz it says unable. Everything should be working normal so I can't find the problem
[23:47] <Manuz> ciao
[23:47] <Manuz> ce' nessuno?
[23:47] <erUSUL> !it | Manuz
[23:47] <Roasted> Cairo Dock Users - Is there any way I can configure the dock so when I get an IM, that the icon for that IM does something to notify me I got a message?
[23:47] <LordHawke13> Does anyoen know how I can manually remove items from the Nautilus "Open With. . ." menu?
[23:48] <erUSUL> Pedrolito: man usermod
[23:48] <Pedrolito> thank you
[23:49] <mrXX> guys, where can i ask about my mic and webcam? i have acer
[23:49] <erUSUL> !webcam
[23:50] <zavulon> haloo
[23:50] <trism> LordHawke13: right click on the type of file you want to change it for, properties/open with tab, and remove whatever you don't want
[23:50] <Xiella> virtuald:  "modeset" is not available in boot options so I can't remove it.  How do I set something like no mode set when booting?
[23:50] <Riotta> after upgrading to Karmic I have noticied that Firefox is not displaying search engine icons when you click on the search engine menu, is that normal, anyone else got this?
[23:51] <epinky> !ask | mrXX
[23:51] <LordHawke13> Trism: Some things I can't remove. And those things there are 10's of them. I'd like to reduce the counts to 1 a piece.
[23:52] <epinky> worldwarcheese: do you know what videocard chipset?
[23:52] <trism> LordHawke13: what things specifically? I haven't had a problem removing anything
[23:52] <gasull> Hi.  Every time I try to install python2.6-setuptools it installs python-setuptools instead, and then any attemp to install packages that depend on python2.6-setuptools fails.  How can I fix this?  Thank you.
[23:52] <emanuel__> Hello. Just switched to U 9.10 and Synaptics seems to be really slow on figuring out dependencies. Have I misconfigured something? How can I debug this?
[23:52] <LordHawke13> Trism: Pretty much anything I didn't put there myself. Anything I didn't make a custom command for it won't let me remove.
[23:52] <worldwarcheese> epinky: It's an NVIDIA 9800 GT from BFG. I have the latest drivers and am still running Jaunty
[23:53] <ranapr> Does anyone share your thoughts/experience with UEC or any documentation or reviews?
[23:53] <mrXX> Guys my internal mic doesn't work, i can find a soln, i have an acer
[23:54] <Roasted> I have gnome-do installed, but I want to install docky that supposedly comes with it. How do I get docky working?
[23:54] <emanuel__> I have added a couple of ppa: sources (chromium & nVidia beta), but that shouldn't slow Synaptics down really?
[23:55] <epinky> worldwarcheese: have you read this? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1272845
[23:55] <emanuel__> Another thing: is it safe to disable/uninstall pulseaudio completely? I get anoying pops every now and then... U 9.10.
[23:55] <gasull> Is there any way to actually install python2.6-setuptools?
[23:55] <epinky> worldwarcheese: read the EDIT part at the end
[23:56] <kostkon> emanuel__, the pops are not pulse related i think? using a laptop?
[23:56] <worldwarcheese> epinky: Thanks! I hadn't seen that thread and I'll try that now. It sounds exactly like my issues
[23:57] <emanuel__> kostkon: no, it's a desktop computer. Intel HDA.
[23:57] <randomusr> sound on 9.04; adequate, sound on 9.10; Priceless
[23:57] <Roasted> I have gnome-do installed, but I want to install docky that supposedly comes with it. How do I get docky working?
[23:57] <randomusr> docky?
[23:58] <randomusr> !gnome-do
[23:58] <randomusr> hmm
[23:58] <oscillocam> anyone running netatalk 2.0.4 in 8.04.3?
[23:58] <emanuel__> Anybody else suffering from general synaptics slowness?
[23:58] <worldwarcheese> epinky: Except does "compiz-check" mean a command in the terminal? I ran it and was told that it's not a real command?
[23:59] <kostkon> emanuel__, it  could be the case that your  soundcard is shutting down after 10secs of inactivity
[23:59] <trism> LordHawke13: sorry, I can't reproduce this, I just removed all the associations of several file types with no problems...not sure what the issue is for you
[23:59] <emanuel__> kostkon: it never did before.
[23:59] <kostkon> emanuel__, new power saving feature on 9.10. you could try disabling it and see if that changes anything
[23:59] <worldwarcheese> Nevermind, found it
[23:59] <epinky> worldwarcheese:read this  http://forlong.blogage.de/article/pages/Compiz-Check
[23:59] <kostkon> emanuel__, yeah, it's only on 9.10
[23:59] <crazyspai> What would the command to extract tarballs be?
[23:59] <LordHawke13> Trism: Oh well. Thanks for trying. . .


[07:27] <twogunmickey> hello.  Just droping in to say Hi.  Is anyone here?
[07:28] <twogunmickey> more specific anyone here from central AR.


[12:43] <andersson123> bluca: could you give me a PR number from today please?
[12:51] <andersson123> Or trigger a test for me right now perhaps :)
[13:13] <bluca> andersson123: 30165 was triggered ~10 minutes ago
[13:51] <andersson123> thanks
[15:18] <bluca> andersson123: 3 of the jobs on 30165 have now completed, one is still running, but zero reports on the PR
[15:51] <andersson123> bluca: I've FINALLY gotten to the bottom of the issue ... the bug is an INCREDIBLY annoying one ... but I should have a fix with you soon :)
[15:52] <bluca> great news, thank you
[18:09] <andersson123> bluca: I think over the next hour or so all your unanswered tests might start getting answered :)
[18:12] <bluca> fab, thank you, will keep an eye on things
[18:13] <bluca> ah yes we already have the first one, very nice: https://github.com/systemd/systemd/pull/30168


[00:38] <hackfu> Hello
[01:02] <average_guy> hello hackfu
[01:03] <Unit193> average_guy, hackfu: Howdy.
[01:03] <hackfu> Hows it going?
[01:04] <Unit193> Watchin' Walking Dead.
[01:04] <average_guy> playin with 14.04/unity VM Here
[01:05] <Unit193> average_guy: Heh, wow.  You're quite quick.
[01:05] <Unit193> hackfu: So what brings you to -tn?
[01:06] <hackfu> My wife's mother passed away last month and we inherited her estate so we came here for some arrangements.
[01:07] <hackfu> estate/farm
[01:07] <hackfu> Just outside downtown Franklin, TN
[01:07] <hackfu> about 700 rolling acres
[01:07] <hackfu> with 12 acre lake with dock
[01:08] <average_guy> sounds expencive
[01:08] <hackfu> http://imgur.com/a/RD7xC#0
[01:09] <hackfu> Here is a gallery of photos from the estate and the property
[01:10] <average_guy> whatever
[01:10] <average_guy> I got 2 of those
[01:10] <hackfu> :)
[02:45] <wrst> hello hackfu
[11:33] <hackfu> morning
[11:44] <wrst> how are you doing?
[12:24] <hackfu> I'm really good
[12:24] <hackfu> how are you dear?
[12:29] <wrst> its morning... I'm not for sure yet


  :D
[16:47] <MutantTurkey> of course I forget his nick...
[18:20] <cmorrison> jedijf: should I stick with Mturkey or what?
[18:21] <rmg51> if you change nicks how will we know you?
[18:22] <cmorrison> no should I start using cmorrison as my regular nickname
[18:22] <cmorrison> doesn't MutantTurkey seem a bit silly?  :p
[18:23] <cmorrison> then again I'm a pretty silly guy
[18:24] <JonathanD> How will we know to cook you for thanksgiving?
[18:25] <rmg51> how do we make fun of a nick like cmorrison?
[18:57] <InHisName> we need some one to roast for T'Giving every year.
[18:57] <MutantTurkey> what about pangolin?
[18:57] <pangolin> I'm not that tasty
[19:13] <InHisName> A pressure cooker is great at making a tough old bird --- tasty !
[19:17] <MutantTurkey> I'm outta here...
[19:17] <MutantTurkey> Lol
[19:25] <ChinnoDog> InHisName: how does the pressure cooker do that?
[19:26] <MutantTurkey> PRESSURE
[19:26] <ChinnoDog> air pressure though. I don't get how that makes meat more tender.
[19:27] <ChinnoDog> I mean, gas pressure. Not really "air" pressure.
[19:27] <waltman> ChinnoDog: I think it has something to do with PV=nRT
[19:28] <MutantTurkey> PV=nRT
[19:29] <MutantTurkey> Pressure times Volume = (const) x whats this? x Tempeture
[19:29] <MutantTurkey> what is R
[19:29] <ChinnoDog> There aren't any factors in that equation for tenderizing turkeys or pangolins
[19:29] <adom> radius
[19:29] <adom> red meat
[19:29] <adom> racial tension
[19:30] <adom> Raeganomics
[19:30] <MutantTurkey> PV = MRTF
[19:30] <MutantTurkey> mutant radioactive turkey feathers
[19:30] <pleia2> don't eat pangolins, they are endangered :(
[19:30] <pleia2> http://www.savepangolins.org/
[19:30] <PennBot> Title: Home | Save Pangolins (at www.savepangolins.org)
[19:30] <waltman> is the R avogadro's number? or is that n?
[19:31] <ChinnoDog> But pangolins might also be tasty
[19:31] <waltman> I think that's R, and n is the number of moles?
[19:31] <waltman> http://missvickie.com/workshop/howdoesit.html
[19:31] <PennBot> Title: How Does a Pressure Cooker Work (at missvickie.com)
[19:32] <MutantTurkey> if R is avagadros
[19:32] <MutantTurkey> n is moles
[19:32] <MutantTurkey> this is the Ideal Gas Law right/
[19:33] <MutantTurkey> R is a constant
[19:35] <ChinnoDog> "Under high pressure (15 pounds per square inch), the fiber in food is tenderized and flavors mingle in record time."
[19:35] <waltman> You realize, of course, that the last time I took a chemistry course was before you were born. :)
[19:36] <ChinnoDog> The article still doesn't explain why pressure cooking causes it to become tender
[19:37] <MutantTurkey> possibly increasing the pressure( which raises the temperature) also puts strain on the meat
[19:37] <MutantTurkey> then when the pressure normalizes
[19:37] <MutantTurkey> it just falls apart
[19:40] <ChinnoDog> I kind of want a pressure cooker now to try it out
[19:42] <ChinnoDog> and to be able to cook beans
[19:42] <ChinnoDog> om nom beans
[19:43] <ChinnoDog> I could make baked beans and sourdough crescent dogs
[19:43] <ChinnoDog> ok, maybe I need to go back to work now
[20:03] <erstazi> MutantTurkey: Thanks for the PPA info!
[20:03] <MutantTurkey> yessir
[20:38] <SamuraiAlba> Good bacon to all!
[20:39] <MutantTurkey> bacon to you and to you a good bacon
[20:39] <SamuraiAlba> BACONS!
[20:41] <SamuraiAlba> I have 4 U320 LSI cards :O
[20:42] <SamuraiAlba> 20320 IE's
[20:42] <SamuraiAlba> Anyone need?
[20:42] <MutantTurkey> whut are those
[20:42] <SamuraiAlba> SCIS U320 cards
[20:42] <SamuraiAlba> *SCSI
[20:43] <MutantTurkey> lol
[20:43] <MutantTurkey> no thanks :p
[20:44] <SamuraiAlba> I just got an HP DL380 G5
[20:44] <MutantTurkey> very nice
[20:44] <SamuraiAlba> Dual QUAD Xeons
[20:44] <SamuraiAlba> 2.0Ghz
[20:44] <SamuraiAlba> 8GB
[20:44] <SamuraiAlba> 4x73GB SAS drives
[20:44] <SamuraiAlba> $150
[20:44] <MutantTurkey> nice nice nice
[20:44] <MutantTurkey> total cost?
[20:44] <SamuraiAlba> $150
[20:45] <MutantTurkey> WHAT how
[20:45] <SamuraiAlba> Shipping ERROR
[20:45] <SamuraiAlba> I called em
[20:45] <SamuraiAlba> They said keep it
[20:45] <MutantTurkey> and...?
[20:45] <SamuraiAlba> :O
[20:45] <MutantTurkey> HOLY FCK!
[20:45] <SamuraiAlba> No xtra cost....
[20:45] <MutantTurkey> thats amazing
[20:45] <SamuraiAlba> Was $799
[20:45] <MutantTurkey> once it is delivered it becomes your property
[20:45] <MutantTurkey> some law about that
[20:46] <MutantTurkey> they can't ask for it back
[20:47] <SamuraiAlba> :>
[20:47] <SamuraiAlba> Must change credit card number
[20:47] <MutantTurkey> huh why
[20:48] <SamuraiAlba> just in case :)
[21:04] <jedijf> MutantTurkey: stick with this nick...nicks are special names are ordinary
[21:04] <jedijf> special, names
[21:04] <MutantTurkey> right on
[21:43] <MutantTurkey> how do I tell git to reset a single file
[21:43] <MutantTurkey> ?


[01:55] <guiverc> did any (lubuntu) 21.10 release notes get started?
[11:56] -queuebot:#lubuntu-devel- Unapproved: calamares-settings-ubuntu (impish-proposed/universe) [1:21.10.1 => 1:21.10.2] (lubuntu, ubuntustudio)
[22:12] <guiverc> not a must; but we should probably list https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/calamares/+bug/1864787 ('replace partition on certain partition schemes with calamares fails' in focal-3) release notes for impish, it's still occurring for users in support (I've tested for it & had it this month on impish); release notes are easy to point users to :)
[22:13]  * guiverc can test for it again if helpful; plan to do that test again (along with others) when I can..
[22:17] <kc2bez[m]> We can list it. It would be good to run the test again probably.
[22:20] <guiverc> yep.. I'll run install test again (twice before release at least) and if bug occurs twice more - we list as known issue :)  maybe
[22:31] <kc2bez[m]> sounds good


[00:39] <infinity> wgrant: Do we know what causes the above, BTW?  It is just some touchy hard-to-hunt-and-fix race, or scary corruption somewhere, or...?
[00:40] <infinity> (I've always been inclined to not care deeply, sinc the workaround is easy and not a big deal unless it was a 24h GCC build, but... Sometimes it's a 24h GCC build)
[00:40] <wgrant> infinity: That wasn't the actual error
[00:40] <wgrant> The error was "Server said:"
[00:40] <wgrant> It's some librarian network glitch, I believe.
[00:40] <infinity> Server said: nothing?  Whee.
[00:41] <wgrant> Right
[00:41] <wgrant>   File "/srv/launchpad.net/codelines/soyuz-production-rev-16916/lib/lp/services/librarian/client.py", line 104, in _checkError
[00:41] <wgrant>     raise UploadFailed('Server said: ' + response)
[00:41] <wgrant> UploadFailed: Server said:
[00:41] <wgrant> It should probably retry in that case, but it's a bit complicated.
[00:42] <infinity> wgrant: Like I said, not a big deal, just a curiosity.
[00:42] <infinity> (We still see the odd hash mismatch too, which is disconcerting, since we no longer have bitflip-prone hardware..)
[00:42] <wgrant> Do we?
[00:42] <wgrant> I haven't seen any of those recently :/
[00:42] <infinity> Yeah, I see a failed hash upload once a month or so, maybe.
[00:43] <infinity> Arch random.
[00:43] <infinity> We're not abusing the same python-doesn't-do-http-post-properly misfeature of the chroot uploads, are we? :)
[00:43] <wgrant> Fortunately not.
[00:43] <infinity> Nah, can't be that, or it would die a lot more often.
[00:43] <wgrant> Python sucking at MIME is unrelated to XML-RPC.
[00:44] <infinity> And more reproducibly on builds of a certain size.
[00:45] <infinity> wgrant: I forget, did we actually hack around that for the chroot case?
[00:46] <wgrant> infinity: You don't want to know.
[00:46] <infinity> I'm pretty sure I once knew.
[00:46] <infinity> And forgot.
[00:46] <wgrant> Keep it that way.
[00:46] <infinity> Hahaha.
[00:46] <infinity> Kay.
[00:46] <infinity> Was it uglier than my "why not have the client null-terminate, and the server strip?" suggestion?"
[00:46] <infinity> s/"$//
[00:47] <wgrant> You asked for it: https://bazaar.launchpad.net/~launchpad-pqm/launchpad/devel/view/head:/lib/lp/soyuz/model/distroarchseries.py#L172
[00:47] <infinity> HAHAHAHAHAHA.
[00:47] <infinity> So, yes, it's worse that my suggestion, from a performance POV.
[00:47] <infinity> But, transparent.  So yay.
[00:48] <wgrant> Right, the main point is that it's transparent to the client.
[00:48] <wgrant> It works around the broken data from the client, while allowing a proper client fix later.
[00:48] <wgrant> Without breaking protocol.
[00:48] <infinity> I don't think you get to make fun of cprov's code for a week.
[00:48] <infinity> Also, it would be infinitely better without the comment.
[00:48] <infinity> "doesn't match?  add random shit and try again."
[00:49] <wgrant> Heh
[05:36] <darkxst> anyone able to bump mozjs24 through the new queue? so I can get the other bits (gjs/gnome-shell etc) uploaded over the weekend
[14:36] <jamespage> please could a member of the SRU team review the openvswitch-lts-saucy source package I uploaded a while back to fix bug 1262225
[14:36] <ubot2`> Launchpad bug 1262225 in openvswitch (Ubuntu Precise) "openvswitch 1.4.6 is not compatible with the 3.11 saucy HWE kernel" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1262225
[14:37] <jamespage> its the same approach we took with the lts-raring kernel
[15:31] <bdmurray> What are the release task wiki pages?  For new releases and making a release EoL.
[15:31] <bdmurray> ah, I think I found it
[15:33] <rsalveti> stgraber: we now have an i386 tarball published from cdimage, what needs to happen to get that tarball published via the system-image server?
[15:33] <rsalveti> ogra_: ^
[15:33] <ogra_> rsalveti, we only have the tarball
[15:33] <rsalveti> ogra_: isn't that enough?
[15:33] <rsalveti> or do we need a device tarball as well?
[15:33] <ogra_> rsalveti, i assume you want the android package too
[15:33] <rsalveti>  /tarball/images/
[15:34] <rsalveti> right, for now just a tarball is fine
[15:34] <rsalveti> as that's what is used by the ubuntu-emulator script
[15:34] <ogra_> currently x86 skips in in live-build
[15:34] <ogra_> rsalveti, it doesnt use any android bits ?
[15:34]  * ogra_ assumed you want boot/system at least
[15:35] <ogra_> rsalveti, i also havent enabled it by default yet ... will do so after didrocks' image has build
[15:36] <rsalveti> ogra_: hm, true, the current one is extracting the kernel from the boot image
[15:36] <rsalveti> but the previous one wasn't
[15:37] <rsalveti> but having the system image for the rootfs tarball would already help me a lot
[15:37] <ogra_> rsalveti, if you only use the tarball and no android system.img for the container i think that would need changes on the system-image,u.c side
[15:37] <rsalveti> ogra_: well, the tarball is always generic, right?
[15:37] <ogra_> (though if you only need the tarball i would just pull it directly=
[15:37] <rsalveti> the android image I produce it myself
[15:38] <rsalveti> ogra_: it's just that the logic we have pulls it from system-image
[15:38] <ogra_> rsalveti, on cdimage it is generic ... system-image stuffs the system.img in place
[15:38] <rsalveti> and we also use the system-image format when booting the emulator
[15:38] <rsalveti> ogra_: thought that this was happening during flash
[15:38] <rsalveti> ogra_: the rootfs tarball in system-image is still generic
[15:38] <ogra_> rsalveti, well, it dumps links and dirs in place
[15:38] <rsalveti> that's why we have the device tarball and the rootfs tarball there as well
[15:38] <rsalveti> ogra_: but that's generic enough
[15:39] <ogra_> right
[15:39] <ogra_> rsalveti, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6931793/ (from rootstock)
[15:40] <ogra_> rsalveti, thats the bit that system-image does in generatos.py
[15:40] <ogra_> *generators
[15:40] <ogra_> (which rootstock does during install)
[15:40] <rsalveti> ogra_: right, and that's what I'm using locally :-)
[15:41] <rsalveti> ogra_: that's why I said they are generic enough for the emulator, because I'm already using it :-)
[15:41] <ogra_> well, i was wondering if we shouldnt just have the emulator wrapper script do that
[15:41] <ogra_> it is trivial enough
[15:41] <rsalveti> ogra_: why if we can just download the system-image rootfs?
[15:42] <rsalveti> and that rootfs will be there anyway
[15:42] <rsalveti> with proper id and such
[15:42] <stgraber> I'd expect i386 emulator to be similar to the armhf emulator and we sure have a device tarball for that one
[15:42] <rsalveti> stgraber: yeah, that will happen soon
[15:42] <rsalveti> stgraber: it's just that we got the rootfs tarball already
[15:42] <stgraber> system-image can be configured not to ship with a device tarball but only in a separate channel
[15:42] <stgraber> and I don't think we want to create a separate channel just for the i386 emulator :)
[15:42] <rsalveti> stgraber: but can't we just publish the rootfs tarball?
[15:43] <rsalveti> or do you need a device image there as well?
[15:43] <rsalveti> yeah, we don't want a separated channel, no
[15:44] <stgraber> system-image won't publish an image if it's lacking any of the configured tarball for the channel, so no, for our existing channels, it's not possible to publish an image without a device tarball
[15:44] <ogra_> you could surely do that if you clone stgraber
[15:44] <ogra_> so he has time to chaneg the code :)
[15:45] <rsalveti> right, will just push harder to get the device image in place
[15:45] <rsalveti> :-)
[15:46] <ogra_> rsalveti, i guess that needs some magic in the adnroid package then ... and we need to enable the android part in live-build
[15:47] <ogra_> (since system-image pulls from cdimage and expects the device files there)
[15:47] <rsalveti> ogra_: yeah
[15:47] <rsalveti> but I got a bunch of things to do first anyway
[15:47] <rsalveti> like qt packaging, mir and so on
[16:50] <darkxst> anyone able to bump mozjs24 through the new queue? so I can get the other bits (gjs/gnome-shell etc) uploaded over the weekend
[19:10] <lamont> anyone know anything about gccgo-4.9 being mode 0?
[19:10] <seb128> lamont, see #is scrollback some 9 hours ago if you have it
[19:10] <lamont> ta
[19:11] <seb128> lamont, doko uploaded a version that nuked libgcc1 content and made apt, chroots and other things unhappy
[19:11] <seb128> lamont, the binaries got chmoded to avoid users getting it
[19:12] <lamont> right
[19:12]  * lamont had just concluded that