[14:20] <BluesKaj> geirha, like I said I've never had problems with it, and it's quite selective being a dpkg command meant to terminate or kill a package manger that's still open or frozen
[14:20] <Krisg> thanks for the link Enno1
[14:20] <Enno1> a live image is going to be the fastest way to get that to happen, though. and best-documented
[14:21] <Krisg> Enno1 isnt that the one everytime i restart all the changes will be gone?
[14:21] <Enno1> you might say it's the canonical way.
[14:21] <EriC^^> Krisg: please clarify, is it that you want ubuntu on a usb as a standalone installation ? or you want a liveusb which gives you a try or install ubuntu ?
[14:21] <moritzkoeln> join
[14:21] <Enno1> oh, that. yeah, if you want that, you want something else :-)
[14:22] <Enno1> never mind me.
[14:22] <Enno1> I *was* only here to get help with my monitor, not to give advice :-)
[14:22] <Enno1> it's not my day.
[14:23] <EiriksUbuntu> Krisg I have a Live USB and USB HDD, I can run them both without the optional install, if you install a live usb from Ubuntu it don't give you the extra install menus as the first load
[14:23] <luist> whats the size of 12.04 repos?
[14:24] <Enno1> Not using mode "3840x2160" *exceeds panel dimensions) ??
[14:24] <geirha> BluesKaj: that doesn't mean people won't try it on other files, thinking it is safe since it was used like that for dpkg's lock file
[14:24] <EiriksUbuntu> Krisg they give you the option to choose when you run Startup Disk Creator in Ubuntu
[14:25] <Krisg> EriC^^: a standalone and portal OS on a USB
[14:25] <Krisg> EriC^^: portable*
[14:26] <EiriksUbuntu> yepI have a 500gb hdd that I can plug into anything and reboot to my OS
[14:26] <EriC^^> Krisg: do you have 2 usb's ?
[14:26] <EriC^^> one only has to be ~1g
[14:26] <BluesKaj> geirha, well I certainly wouldn't suggest using it on anything other than a locked up package manager and never have.
[14:26] <amae> help please, i want to install ubuntu 14.04 alongside windows 7 with image recovery and i already partition a 20 gb in my hard drive, is that ok to install ubuntu 14.04 in hard drive with dell image recovery? anyone please...
[14:27] <EiriksUbuntu> You can also install into a SDHC card if you have a reader
[14:28] <chrisss123456> oh no.
[14:28] <amae> EiriksUbuntu, i already have flash drive i want to install it alongside with win7
[14:28] <chrisss123456> guys i need some major help
[14:28] <chrisss123456> im trying to get rhythmbox to play mp3s
[14:28] <chrisss123456> and it said i needed a gstreamer ugly plugin
[14:28] <chrisss123456> so i did sudo apt get etc
[14:28] <chrisss123456> and it has removed vlc, audacity, ubuntu desktop and software center...
[14:29] <chrisss123456> :(
[14:29] <EiriksUbuntu> amae you will be given the option when you boot the usb and use the install option
[14:29] <chrisss123456> for the love of god someone please tell me what the hell just happened
[14:30] <EiriksUbuntu> chrisss123456 it's going to be ok, take a breathe
[14:30] <EiriksUbuntu> lol breather
[14:30] <geirha> ikonia: there's no feedback when it gets rejected, so it feels like a waste of time.
[14:30] <chrisss123456> EiriksUbuntu: ok...
[14:30] <chrisss123456> but what just happened? why would it remove?
[14:30] <chrisss123456> i can reinstall everything, but i just dont get it
[14:31] <amae> EiriksUbuntu, is that ok with my dell image recovery? co'z i don't want to loss my dell image recovery in hard drive
[14:31] <Krisg> Eric^^: yes, i have 2 USB
[14:31] <ikonia> geirha: ok, don't do it
[14:31] <EiriksUbuntu> amae it won't hurt it, it will be fine
[14:31] <EiriksUbuntu> you can chose to install along side your other OS
[14:32] <amae> EiriksUbuntu, ok thanks
[14:32] <EiriksUbuntu> amae np :)
[14:32] <EriC^^> Krisg: make a liveusb out of one, boot it, in the installation select something else, then partition your second usb as you see fit, and install ubuntu there, (make sure the bottom selection says install bootloader on /dev/sdX where X is your second usb)
[14:33] <ralpheeee> sorry very new ubuntu /xubuntu...can i ask a question here?
[14:33] <chrisss123456> EiriksUbuntu: im reinstalling everything now, but i dont really like what happened. do you know what happened?
[14:33] <EiriksUbuntu> Krisg yeah EriC^^
[14:33] <EriC^^> chrisss123456: i'm sure you can see logs and find out
[14:34] <chrisss123456> EriC^^: yea, it said: The following packages will be REMOVED, and i was stupid enough to press enter, but i dont get why that would be necessary...
[14:34] <EiriksUbuntu> I understand that you apt-get etc and it auto removed the other packages, those packages might have been seen as obsolete i'm not sure
[14:34] <Krisg> EriC^^: would it not replace any MBR thingy the currency system im using?
[14:34] <EriC^^> chrisss123456: what package were you trying to install ?
[14:34] <Krisg> EriC^^: current*
[14:35] <ralpheeee> in xubuntu i installed nemo as my default file manger...when i insert a ext hard drive nemo does not open up automatically...can anyone help pls?
[14:35] <chrisss123456> EriC^^: i was trying to install gstreamer - ugly (or something like that) to play mp3s on rhythmbox
[14:35] <MrCoder> Since upgrading to Unbuntu 14 from 12 LTS lightdm seems to keep hanging and I have to restart it. Anybody else getting this?
[14:35] <chrisss123456> i tried through rhythmbox but it kept failing.
[14:36] <EiriksUbuntu> Krisg your going to boot the usb, try ubuntu, use startup disk creator to install Ubuntu onto the second usb as if it were a hard drive
[14:37] <EriC^^> Krisg: no, the bootloader option says where to install grub
[14:37] <EiriksUbuntu> Krisg this will not affect the computer at all
[14:37] <EriC^^> EiriksUbuntu: no, he's not!
[14:37] <EriC^^> cut - it - out
[14:38] <EiriksUbuntu> what are you talking about? I am running it exactly what he wants right now
[14:38] <EriC^^> EiriksUbuntu: you're suggesting he uses a live usb to create a startup disk on another usb?
[14:38] <EriC^^> if you are asking what im talking about
[14:39] <EiriksUbuntu> EXACTLY
[14:39] <sri_> does anyone know netlimiter like software in ubuntu
[14:39] <EiriksUbuntu> This option leaves no trace in the computer, which is what he wants
[14:40] <EriC^^> EiriksUbuntu: this option creates another live usb
[14:40] <EriC^^> you're effectively asking him to create a live usb, then use that to create another live usb
[14:41] <EiriksUbuntu> yes, one he can do anything with, and another he can boot on any computer anywhere and have his own OS
[14:41] <EriC^^> then why create it from the live usb then?
[14:42] <Krisg> EriC^^: Is it ok to use a DVD instead of an USB for the installer? To install to the other USB?
[14:42] <EiriksUbuntu> Krisg Yes
[14:42] <EriC^^> Krisg: yes
[14:42] <sri_> does anyone know netlimiter like software in ubuntu
[14:43] <Krisg> Tyvm :)
[14:44] <EriC^^> np :)
[14:46] <EiriksUbuntu> Krisg just make sure you install onto the USB as if the USB is your hard drive, some computers you boot it with may require you to download additional drivers to work better
[14:52] <Krisg> EiriksUbuntu: thanks ill keep that in mind :)
[14:52] <EiriksUbuntu> np :D
[14:59] <amae> EiriksUbuntu, how to make shrtcut icon in ubuntu 14.04 , b'coz the msg appear error?
[15:02] <EiriksUbuntu> amae um can you get into the option for Try Ubuntu?
[15:03] <EiriksUbuntu> amae I don't understand, please give me more information
[15:04] <amae> EiriksUbuntu, i mean how to put shortcut icon like terminal in desktop display
[15:05] <luist> whats the size of 12.04 repos if i want to make a local mirror?
[15:05] <EiriksUbuntu> amae if you start the application you can right click it on the launcher and pin it
[15:07] <sarir> amea: you can always manually create a desktop file ( don't know if there is an automated way) (if you want it on the desktop itself, in most cases pinning the application is a better variant)
[15:07] <geirha> !mirrors | luist
[15:08] <Slartibartfast13> When I ran the Xubuntu live CD, it did not mount my hard drives automatically, but when I run Kubuntu, it looks like it did mount my hard drives. Is Kubuntu supposed to do that automatically when running the live test CD?
[15:08] <Abhinav1> !torrents
[15:09] <TurkerTunali1> Hi guys,  I've created a user when installing ubuntu server 14.04 (namely:ubuntu) . I want to ask you that does this user has root privileges? Because I have some strange behaviours. I have a script which installs Postgresql 9.3 along with our ERP and it works greate on AWS but my local machines can't connect Postgresql.
[15:09] <amae> ok guys... thanks
[15:10] <geirha> Slartibartfast13: The Ubuntu live CD (at least) mounts swap automatically if it finds some. Other filesystems will only be mounted on demand (e.g. by clicking on them in the file browser)
[15:11] <Abhinav1> TurkerTunali1: that have sudo permission
[15:11] <SchrodingersScat> TurkerTunali1: I would think the user would have sudo privileges
[15:13] <TurkerTunali1> I didn't get it!!!
[15:13] <EriC^^> amae: type nautilus /usr/share/applications , then right click the application you want > copy to > desktop
[15:14] <Abhinav1> TurkerTunali1: you ca elevate your user's permission using sudo
[15:14] <EriC^^> TurkerTunali1: what do you mean?
[15:14] <amae> EriC^^, ok i try
[15:14] <EriC^^> TurkerTunali1: type id in the terminal
[15:14] <Abhinav1> but the user doesn't have root priv
[15:15] <Mandor> I'm having a kickstart/kickseed issue.  Looks to me like a bug, so I've submitted a bug report.  But maybe I'm missing something?  Report: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kickseed/+bug/1367601
[15:16] <amae> EriC^^, thanks eric :)
[15:17] <EriC^^> np :)
[15:17] <sennn_> 1FV9sivy3kLD3GViDdxLmabKnaee23fNko
[15:19] <TurkerTunali1> EriC: it gave this: uid=1000(ubuntu) gid=1000(ubuntu) groups=1000(ubuntu), 4(adm), 24(cdrom),27(sudo),30(dip),46(plugdev),110(lpadmin),111(sambashare)
[15:22] <sri_> does anyone know netlimiter like software in ubuntu
[15:23] <sri_> does anyone know netlimiter like software in ubuntu
[15:32] <Abhinav1> sri_: http://askubuntu.com/questions/83352/good-alternative-to-netlimiter
[15:33] <ActionParsnip> Abhinav1: what is the output of:  groups
[15:34] <olive_> hello
[15:35] <geirha> ActionParsnip: I think you mean TurkerTunali1, and sie just showed the output of id(1)
[15:35] <Abhinav1> ActionParsnip:  groups - print the groups a user is in
[15:35] <Abhinav1> olive_: Hello
[15:35] <ActionParsnip> ah, sorry
[15:36] <ActionParsnip> TurkerTunali1: then you are in the sudo group, so can use sudo when you need admin access
[15:38] <geirha> TurkerTunali1: postgresql can be configured to give certain users/groups access to this and that database without requiring a password. Maybe the difference is there.
[15:40] <WeiJunLi> When I used vmware in windwos it kinda lags a bit, what is the best vmware workstation or vmware player for an  Ubuntu machine, I pretend to install windows in the vmware.
[15:40] <ActionParsnip> WeiJunLi: why not use virtualbox?
[15:41] <ActionParsnip> WeiJunLi: neither vmware player or workstaion is "best" or vmware would only make one, as nobody would use theother. Both solutions exist as they have different strengths.
[15:41] <ActionParsnip> WeiJunLi: think about it.....
[15:42] <WeiJunLi> what is the difference between using vmware and virtualbox?
[15:43] <ActionParsnip> WeiJunLi: virtualbox is opensource and installable from the official ubuntu repos, so will automatically be updated as the packages are updated, just like the rest of your OS
[15:43] <WeiJunLi> ActionParsnip: apt-get install virtualbox ?
[15:44] <griffin> have a game, wolf ET: it runs perfectly in ubuntu 14.04, but there is no sound, while all other programs and games have... any tips for a noob?
[15:44] <ActionParsnip> WeiJunLi: prefixed with sudo, yes
[15:44] <amae> after i install ubuntu 14.04 what things to do?
[15:44] <ActionParsnip> amae: run updates
[15:45] <ActionParsnip> griffin: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EnemyTerritory
[15:45] <ganja> 日你嘴
[15:45] <amae> ActionParsnip, how?
[15:45] <luist> geirha: i dont have 600+GB for the whole archive, can i sync only the 12.04 repo?
[15:45] <ActionParsnip> amae: sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade; sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[15:45] <Abhinav1> amae: http://howtoubuntu.org/things-to-do-after-installing-ubuntu-14-04-trusty-tahr
[15:46] <griffin> @actionparsnip: i have done this, but they ask to make a script, don't know how
[15:46] <amae> ActionParsnip, thanks
[15:46] <ActionParsnip> griffin: do the commands make it work ok?
[15:46] <geirha> luist: Probably, but not sure. #ubuntu-mirrors might know more
[15:47] <innocent95> Hi
[15:47] <griffin> no, it did not
[15:47] <ActionParsnip> griffin: which did you try?
[15:47] <innocent95> I have a problem, my xubuntu is no longer shows update messages, i guess there is a problem
[15:48] <griffin> method 1
[15:48] <k1l> innocent95: what does "lsb_release -d" give you?
[15:48] <ActionParsnip> griffin: tried the rest?
[15:48] <griffin> since i don't know how to look into my terminal to see for errors, i did not try 2
[15:48] <ActionParsnip> griffin: then you should
[15:49] <griffin> how can i see in my terminal for error?
[15:49] <innocent95> k1l, Gives me Description:	Ubuntu 14.04.1 LTS
[15:49] <griffin> because it is asking to look for a certain error
[15:49] <amae> ActionParsnip, do i need anti-virus for this
[15:49] <ActionParsnip> innocent95: use http://pastie.org   and give the output of:  sudo apt-get update
[15:49] <ActionParsnip> !av | amae
[15:50] <levo> does someone know a quick app for making vCard contacts?
[15:50] <amae> ubottu, ok thanks
[15:51] <innocent95> ActionParsnip, everything looks fine, http://pastie.org/9542474
[15:51] <innocent95> amae, Ubottu is a bot :P
[15:51] <ActionParsnip> innocent95: ok, run:  sudo apt-get --reinstall install nano       isit ok?
[15:52] <amae> innocent95, what?! :)
[15:52] <innocent95> ActionParsnip, rewrite that properly, write the commands between quotes
[15:52] <ActionParsnip> !bot | amae
[15:52] <ActionParsnip> innocent95: I already put it between a tonne of spaces, it's obviously not clear enough                        "sudo apt-get --reinstall install nano"
[15:53] <innocent95> ActionParsnip, nano the editor?
[15:54] <ActionParsnip> innocent95: yes, the command reinstalls teh text editor, is it successful?
[15:54] <ActionParsnip> *the
[15:54] <innocent95> ActionParsnip, nano has been successfully installed
[15:55] <ActionParsnip> innocent95: ok, run:    sudo apt-get upgrade     is it ok?
[15:55] <innocent95> moment
[15:55] <innocent95> ActionParsnip, boobs
[15:56] <amae> ActionParsnip,  is that really ubottu is bot? like A.I in the movie :p?
[15:56] <innocent95> ActionParsnip, a lot of stuff, need to be upgraded.
[15:56] <ActionParsnip> amae: she reacts to triggers
[15:56] <ActionParsnip> innocent95: ok, run updtes
[15:56] <amae> ActionParsnip, like JARVIS :p
[15:56] <innocent95> ActionParsnip, You mean, i should upgrade them?^
[15:56] <ActionParsnip> amae: I dont know what that is
[15:56] <WeiJunLi> ActionParsnip: how can I install Vista in ISO format on the virtualbox without the license key?
[15:57] <ActionParsnip> innocent95: yes, regular upgrades will help keep your system running ok
[15:57] <amae> ActionParsnip, Jarvis from the movie ironman hehehe..
[15:57] <ActionParsnip> WeiJunLi: you will still need a valid license to install in a virtual system
[15:57] <ActionParsnip> amae: not seen it
[15:57] <innocent95> ActionParsnip, Thank you very much, the great man.
[15:58] <ActionParsnip> innocent95: glad to help
[15:59] <WeiJunLi> ActionParsnip: btw do you have any link for download windows vista iso ?
[15:59] <ActionParsnip> WeiJunLi: no idea, try asking in ##windows
[16:03] <Miquel> #ubuntu-es
[16:04] <TeraJL> hi there, i need mysql client 5.6 how can i install it? 14.04
[16:04] <k1l> !info mysql
[16:05] <xikkub> mysql-client
[16:05] <k1l> !info mysql-client
[16:05] <ActionParsnip> TeraJL: could have searched in software centre and found that.....
[16:05] <TeraJL> there is mysql-client-4.6 but it starts uninstalling my KDE packages and then i can't install mysql-workbench
[16:05] <jackbrown> Anyone can help ? I'd like add an icon to the software that hasn't and the same in the context menu thanks   here is a screenshot for better understanding http://imgur.com/RGTEI5L ?????????????????????'
[16:05] <k1l> TeraJL: hmm, even 14.10 got 5.5
[16:07] <ActionParsnip> jackbrown: I belive its set in the .desktop file in /usr/share/applications
[16:07] <TeraJL> mysql-workbench and KDE depends on the package mysql-client , so if i install mysql-client-1.6 i can't have KDE or mysql-workbench
[16:07] <amae> ActionParsnip, after i nstall ubuntu 14.04 alongside with windows 7, it boot straight to win7 why?
[16:07] <jackbrown> ActionParsnip: thanks I'll take a look
[16:07] <ActionParsnip> amae: if you hold SHIFT at boot, do you see Grub?
[16:08] <amae> ActionParsnip, wait i restart my laptop
[16:09] <ahernandez> hi
[16:09] <ahernandez> what is this
[16:09] <ahernandez> ??
[16:10] <k1l> ahernandez: this is the technical ubuntu support channel. please make sure you read the topic and read the guidelines
[16:10] <amae> ActionParsnip, nothing happen after i hold shift in boot
[16:11] <TeraJL> is there any way to install mysql-client-1.6 as mysql-client? so it does not brake my system?
[16:11] <werner_> I use Lubuntu since four months now and I am very happy with it. Goodbye Microsoft...
[16:11] <ActionParsnip> amae: then you need to boot to liveCD and put Grub on the MBR
[16:11]  * heytimc seeks help debugging a Rhythmbox hang
[16:11] <ActionParsnip> amae: I assume you did not use wubi
[16:11] <k1l> TeraJL: mysql-client 1.6?
[16:11] <TJ-> amae: Is the system UEFI firmware ?
[16:11] <TeraJL> *5.6
[16:11] <TeraJL> sorry
[16:12] <amae> ActionParsnip, i use flash drive in ubuntu
[16:12] <amae> ActionParsnip, do i have t burn it on blank dvd?
[16:12] <k1l> TeraJL: why do you need the 5.6 version?
[16:13] <k1l> TeraJL: 5.5 (with patches for security and bugfixing by ubuntu) is in the ubuntu repos.doesnt that work?
[16:13] <ActionParsnip> amae: did you install Ubuntu within Windows, or did you resize your NTFS to make room for Ubuntu
[16:14] <TeraJL> k1l: because my servers uses 5.6, and mysql-workbench loses some functionalities and give some warnings because i'm using and older client that the server
[16:14] <TeraJL> *than the
[16:14] <k1l> well, than use the same PPA like the server does
[16:15] <TeraJL> k1l: the server is an amazon RDS
[16:15] <amae> ActionParsnip, no i just let ubuntu decide what to do, i just click alongside install and then ubuntu automatic resize then after install nothing happen
[16:15] <heytimc> Rhythmbox 3.0.2 on Tahr hangs most times on first run, works fine thereafter
[16:15] <TJ-> amae: >> Is the system UEFI firmware ? <<
[16:16] <amae> ActionParsnip, what is that?
[16:16] <k1l> TeraJL: then see if a PPA got the 5.6 version
[16:16] <amae> TJ-, what is that?
[16:17] <amae> TJ-, sorry im just beginner..:p
[16:18] <TJ-> amae: The system's built-in firmware, either BIOS or UEFI. If the system is UEFI and Windows is installed in UEFI mode, then you'd need to also ensure Ubuntu installer started in UEFI mode to have both operating systems in the firmware's boot menu
[16:18] <TJ-> amae: If you're not sure, tell us the make/model of the motherboard or PC itself so we can look it up
[16:19] <amae> TJ-, my laptop model is dell inspiron 1545
[16:19] <amae> TJ-, with dell image recovery
[16:20] <ActionParsnip> amae: sounds like grub didnt get put on the disk, so windows boot loader is still present
[16:20] <TeraJL> k1l: i found one but it does not work on 14.04
[16:20] <TeraJL> the only one i found
[16:22] <TJ-> amae: Getting the manual now, give me a couple of minutes to scan it
[16:22] <k1l> TeraJL: mysql-client-5.6 is in universe
[16:22] <amae> ActionParsnip, if i choose in do something else and chioce partionship what i want do you think guys is it ok without harming my win7 and dell image recovery?
[16:22] <k1l> !info mysql-client-5.6
[16:23] <ActionParsnip> amae: if the OS is installed, you can use the omgubuntu guide "sticking it to Grub" and install Grub using a chroot
[16:23] <ActionParsnip> amae: usually the installer puts Grub on the disk for you
[16:25] <amae> ActionParsnip, i think the os is not installed, my file is the same.. i try it again
[16:25] <TeraJL> k1l: there is, but when i install it breaks my system because of KDE and mysql-workbench dependencies
[16:25] <havarka> hi guys, when i try to install skype, i get this, what can i do about it? http://paste.ubuntu.com/8310693/
[16:25] <k1l> TeraJL: are they from other PPAs?
[16:26] <TeraJL> k1l: no
[16:26] <amae> TJ-, ok i wait
[16:27] <TJ-> amae: OK, the 154 is a BIOS system. So, the symptoms you describe indicate that when installing Ubuntu the boot-loader was not written to the hard disk. The installer doesn't make that optional, so if you installed Ubuntu from a USB flash device, or had other storage devices connected during installation, it is more likely that the boot-loader was written to the wrong device instead.
[16:28] <TJ-> s/154/1545/
[16:28] <mbrgm> hi! when I'm logging into a remote system with ssh and the -A (ForwardAgent) option supplied and then execute `ssh-add` on the remote machine -- what exactly does happen? does it store my private key on the remote machine?
[16:29] <ActionParsnip> havarka: what is the output of:    cat /etc/issue
[16:29] <TJ-> amae: You'll need to boot from the Live Desktop ISO, choose "Try Ubuntu" and repair it manually, or with the help of some scripts
[16:29] <ActionParsnip> mbrgm: why private key? surely you mean the public key (for SSH authentication)
[16:30] <amae> TJ-, ok i try
[16:30] <havarka> ActionParsnip, Ubuntu 14.04.1 LTS \n \l
[16:30] <ActionParsnip> havarka: if you enable the partner repo, you can install it from there. easier
[16:31] <havarka> you mean PPA?
[16:31] <havarka> ActionParsnip,
[16:31] <ActionParsnip> havarka: no, its an official package source
[16:31] <ActionParsnip> havarka: you can enable it in software centre
[16:32] <SuperLag> If you're going to set up multiple instances of Ubuntu, what kinds of methods do you guys do to automate that? Like custom configuration, installing updates and extra packages... stuff like that?
[16:32] <Seveas> SuperLag: puppet.
[16:32] <havarka> ActionParsnip, i dont have it in Lubuntu Software Centrum
[16:32] <ActionParsnip> puppet for me
[16:32] <ActionParsnip> havarka: then you can uncomment the lines for the partner repo in /etc/apt/sources.list
[16:33] <TJ-> SuperLag: preseed, kickstart, and any one of several orchestration and configuration management packages
[16:34] <ActionParsnip> havarka: you will need to run:   sudo leafpad /etc/apt/sources.list      to get write access
[16:34] <havarka> ActionParsnip, i am there, but which one is for the skype?
[16:34] <ActionParsnip> havarka: its not specifically for skype, its the partner repo
[16:35] <ActionParsnip> havarka: search the file for the word "partner" you want the lines that start with "deb http"   remove the hash from the start of the line to uncomment it
[16:35] <havarka> http://pastebin.com/rhKL8k7Z
[16:35] <havarka> achernya,
[16:35] <havarka> ActionParsnip,
[16:35] <SuperLag> Seveas: ActionParsnip: How does puppet handle things that require interaction? i.e. saying "yes" to installing a third-party packge, entering a license key for foo
[16:36] <ActionParsnip> havarka: http://pastie.org/9542551
[16:37] <ActionParsnip> SuperLag: not sure, never had that issue really
[16:37] <havarka> ActionParsnip, thx i got it
[16:37] <ActionParsnip> havarka: then run:   sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get install skype
[16:39] <havarka> ActionParsnip, mmnt, let you know how does it goes
[16:39] <cimmm> Hey all, I'm back again... didnt get much time yesterday but reading about "hybrid graphics" etc, most resources are for laptops. I'm still trying to get dual- or triple-head running split between intel igpu and nvidia dgpu while using nvidia-331 drivers. Fresh install 14.04.1 nouveau gave me all 3 monitors, but nvidia-331 apparently leaves igp idle once X starts up. Card is non-optimus (GTX560Ti) so I shouldn't need bumblebee. Where do I g
[16:41] <TJ-> cimmm: I'd guess it's an 'nvidia' thing - unlike the nouveau open-source driver, it won't/can't cooperate with another GPU driver (the intel)
[16:42] <whilhelm> hello is irsii working on ubuntu
[16:44] <ActionParsnip> whilhelm: yes
[16:47] <havarka> ActionParsnip, this is what i get now http://paste.ubuntu.com/8310855/
[16:47] <ActionParsnip> havarka: try:  sudo apt-get -f install
[16:48] <ActionParsnip> havarka: what is the output of:   uname -a
[16:49] <havarka> ActionParsnip, Linux e531 3.13.0-35-generic #62-Ubuntu SMP Fri Aug 15 01:58:42 UTC 2014 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[16:49] <ActionParsnip> havarka: then why did you download the 32bit skype, when you have a 64bit OS?
[16:50] <Alina-malina> when i connect with ftp, why i get owner groul as www-data www-data?
[16:50] <Alina-malina> *group
[16:50] <havarka> i did download 64
[16:50] <Seveas> SuperLag: you tell the vendor to make it automatable or go to a different vendor. There's *no* excuse to require interaction.
[16:50] <ActionParsnip> havarka: it says i386 on the file you downloaded.....
[16:51] <havarka> I download from skype.com Ubuntu multiarch - is`n that 64, there was only then 32 and debian?
[16:51] <ChogyDan> anyone here know how to deal with kernel-oops errors?  or even interpret them?
[16:51] <Seveas> SuperLag: e.g. answers to questions in debian packages can be given noninteractively.
[16:51] <SuperLag> Seveas: not Sublime Text
[16:51] <amae> ActionParsnip, what is wubi?
[16:52] <cimmm> TJ- seems like this should be harder on a laptop, I've found quite a few of those but it seems like they all require optimus/bumblebee and fool around with prime. I don't need gpu offloading in either direction, but I require nv binary accel for windows vm... guess it's just not an option
[16:52] <ChogyDan> havarka: I think I got skype working on 64bits, and it was a matter of trial and error.  Just try the packages and see what works
[16:52] <Seveas> SuperLag: then tell the sublime text developers to get their act together...
[16:52] <ActionParsnip> amae: its a cheap and nasty hack to install Ubuntu to a file in your NTFS which acts as a "disk" it's not been updated in 2 years and is bloody awful
[16:53] <ActionParsnip> havarka: yeah, seems to be how its done now.
[16:53] <ActionParsnip> havarka: enable all the other souces in sources.list, it may help
[16:53] <amae> ActionParsnip, ah... ok
[16:53] <ChogyDan> if anyone knows how to read a kernel oops, I would love your thoughts: https://launchpadlibrarian.net/184479280/oops_record.log
[16:53] <ActionParsnip> amae: its flimsy as anything and hard to repair but people still try and use it
[16:54] <ActionParsnip> amae: its intended to be ran a frew weeks, to see if you like the OS
[16:54] <japro> so has anyone fixed issues with a Realtec RTL8188EE wifi adapter on 14.04?
[16:54] <TJ-> cimmm: If that's what you need... run the host on the iGPU and pass-through the nvidia directly to the the VM using VT-d
[16:54] <sarahS> why is apache so different on every system i’ve ever used?
[16:54] <amae> ActionParsnip, i don't want to risk that way, im just beginner in ubuntu
[16:54] <Seveas> ChogyDan: [ 3152.662196] BUG: unable to handle kernel paging request at b199bb0c
[16:54] <Seveas> bugreport time.
[16:55] <ActionParsnip> amae: you just need to put Grub on the MBR and you are done. The "sticking it to grub" guide will show you how
[16:55] <japro> i find a bunch of threads about it which either seem to claim that upgrading the kernel to 3.14.1 works (doesn't for me), or that they changed the router settings (not really an option since I don't control routers elsewhere obviously) or just downgrading to 12.04
[16:55] <CatKiller> ChogyDan: The problem is that the trace gives very little indication as of what caused the memory error
[16:55] <cimmm> TJ- erm I'm on a 3xxx-k series (VTX no VT-d)
[16:55] <ChogyDan> Seveas: it's filed  :)  I don't know how much attention it will get since it is an old laptop
[16:56] <ChogyDan> CatKiller: can I improve that?
[16:56] <amae> ActionParsnip, yah.. i try it again to installe ubuntu 14.04 hope this time i get it.. cross finger :p
[16:56] <sarahS> on ubuntu, you have this sites-available and sites-enabled setup (and same for mods etc)….on fedora it’s just vhost.conf file in a single directory.  Why are they so different?
[16:56] <CatKiller> ChogyDan: Probably not. If it keeps happening try to find out why
[16:56] <CatKiller> ChogyDan: or exactly how you reproduce it.
[16:57] <havarka> ActionParsnip, still the same output when i try to install skype
[16:57] <ChogyDan> CatKiller: well, ok.  It just happens after a few minutes of use, when graphics are enabled.  That's about it :/    I wish I could debug it further.  Thanks though  :)
[16:58] <jiohdi> anyone here ever try ubuntu on a cyberpowerpc?
[16:58] <Seveas> what the hell is a cyberpowerpc? :)
[16:58] <ActionParsnip> jiohdi: its just a PC building company, if they use components friendly to ubuntu, it will run ok
[16:59] <jiohdi> I am wondering if anyone ever found a way to turn off the neon lights on the fan
[16:59] <ActionParsnip> jiohdi: were you expecting a blanket "yes they work", because you won't get that with any company unless they preinstall it for you
[16:59] <ActionParsnip> jiohdi: I'd ask in ##hardware or contact the seller
[17:00] <jiohdi> ActionParsnip, thx
[17:00] <thc> anyone know how to install amd catalyst
[17:01] <havarka> ActionParsnip, http://paste.ubuntu.com/8310965/
[17:01] <ActionParsnip> thc: use additional drivers app in system settings
[17:01] <thc> i tried that
[17:02] <ActionParsnip> thc: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/AMD
[17:02] <thc> im new to ubuntu gives me error after logining
[17:02] <HideMe> I have integrated and PCI videocards. How do I prevent the PCI card from being loaded by the OS?
[17:05] <cimmm> TJ- I guess im gonna screw around with laptop triplehead setups until I lose patience. sadly I'm stuck on windows if I can't get this going though =(
[17:05] <Seveas> HideMe: add the driver to /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist-hideme.conf
[17:05] <havarka> ActionParsnip, do you have an soution?!
[17:05] <ActionParsnip> havarka: no idea mate, maybe others can advise
[17:05] <ActionParsnip> havarka: skype is junk
[17:06] <HideMe> Seveas, I've done:  echo "blacklist radeon" >> /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf
[17:06] <amae> ActionParsnip, my laptop model is dell inspiron m5040
[17:06] <ActionParsnip> HideMe: that wont work as the user doesnt have write access to that file
[17:07] <HideMe> ActionParsnip, even if I do it as root?
[17:07] <ActionParsnip> HideMe: the file is root owned
[17:07] <amae> ActionParsnip, how to dtermine if uefi my bios
[17:07] <ActionParsnip> HideMe: echo "blacklist radeon" | sudo tee -a /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf         will work
[17:07] <muriano> \close
[17:08] <ActionParsnip> amae: doesnt appear so
[17:08] <havarka> ActionParsnip, but thx anyway
[17:08] <japro> what is extra annoying that with this realtec adapter i don't only get shitty connection it also takes down the rest of the wifi with it
[17:08] <ActionParsnip> japro: what driver module is it using?
[17:09] <HideMe> ActionParsnip, Right.  So I see the lines on blacklist.conf, yet VMM errors saying the device is already in use.  How can I check to see if a video card is in use?
[17:09] <amae> ActionParsnip, no
[17:09] <japro> ActionParsnip, i have "rtl_pci                27261  1 rtl8188ee" in lsmod
[17:10] <ActionParsnip> japro: try:   echo "options rtl8188ee swenc=1" | sudo tee /etc/modprobe.d/rtl8188ee.conf > /dev/null
[17:10] <ActionParsnip> japro: reboot to test
[17:10] <havarka> ActionParsnip, but i think the probelm is that i was trying upgrade to unicorn. and something didnt work out..
[17:10] <ActionParsnip> havarka: sounds like you have a halfway OS then.
[17:11] <havarka> so i reinstall, quickest solution ActionParsnip
[17:11] <ActionParsnip> havarka: why were you upgrading to Utropic?   How can I check to see if a video card is in use?
[17:13] <ActionParsnip> HideMe: the video card will always be in use, it makes the display
[17:13] <ActionParsnip> HideMe: is this in VMWare?
[17:13] <HideMe> ActionParsnip, I have dual videocards tho.
[17:14] <havarka> ActionParsnip, so see you in 15 minutes
[17:14] <HideMe> No. KVM with PCI Pass-through.
[17:14] <ActionParsnip> HideMe: then I have no idea. I am avoiding that switching video cards hack. I think its nasty
[17:14] <HideMe> on-board video for host, pci video for VM's
[17:16] <ActionParsnip> HideMe: why does a VM need a video card?
[17:16] <HideMe> ActionParsnip, As I said...  PCI pass-through.
[17:16] <ActionParsnip> HideMe: but for why? Why is it needed?
[17:17] <HideMe> ActionParsnip,  If I want to run a Windows game.
[17:17] <deSouza> whats the command for mount?
[17:17] <ActionParsnip> deSouza: mount is the command
[17:17] <ActionParsnip> HideMe: sounds like a config of the hardware in the VM
[17:18] <ActionParsnip> HideMe: so, the setting in vmware etc
[17:18] <MonkeyDust> deSouza  sudo mount [device] [folder]
[17:18] <japro> ActionParsnip, the swenc=1 doesn't seem to change anything
[17:18] <HideMe> ActionParsnip, not using VMware.  KVM.  :)
[17:18] <deSouza> ty.  I don't care
[17:31] <rainbowwarrior> hello
[17:31] <ActionParsnip> MonkeyDust: plus, everybody wants to be a cat
[17:33] <rainbowwarrior> Hi , can someone please tell me why java 7 for me only half works as when i use it on some chat sites it works fine, but when i use it on this certain one, i get the java icon then when i click on it, nothing happens how can i fix this please ?
[17:33] <rainbowwarrior> I am using Ubuntu 14.10
[17:33] <squinty> http://www.bbc.co.uk/newsbeat/29140059   which includes producing the world's first stuffed, radio-controlled flying cat.   (OT)
[17:34] <ActionParsnip> rainbowwarrior: then your support is in #ubuntu+1
[17:34] <rainbowwarrior> ActionParsnip : ok ty
[17:34] <ActionParsnip> rainbowwarrior: you are using pre-release, its NOWN to be broken
[17:34] <ActionParsnip> *known
[17:34] <rainbowwarrior> ActionParsnip : ah ok ty
[17:35] <ActionParsnip> rainbowwarrior: if you want an OS that works, wipe Utopc off and reinstall with Trusty
[17:35] <ActionParsnip> rainbowwarrior: Trusty is also supported til April 2019 as it is LTS, Utopic only has 9 months supoprt after release next month
[17:36] <ccapndave> Hey all - I am trying to mount an NFS folder with no_root_squash, and am getting 'mount.nfs: an incorrect mount option was specified'.  My command is 'mount -o 'no_root_squash' <IP_ADDRESS>:'/Users/dave/Projects' /projects'
[17:37] <rainbowwarrior> ActionParsnip : ok ty
[17:43] <Awellstein> hey could anyone help with my problem. my server does not recognize certain UTF-8 characters for example the section sign, and I cant find any documention on this
[17:44] <d91eud> hi fooks
[17:45] <montabone-mrc> hi!
[17:45] <d91eud> should i use ubuntu or debian?
[17:45] <MonkeyDust> d91eud  whatever you like most
[17:45] <maxvi> advice free ui prototyping and mockup tool for ubuntu to install from repository or add ppa
[17:46] <ActionParsnip> d91eud: you are talking about OSes that champion choice and freedom. Yet you ask for random strangers what to use and how to think?
[17:46] <ActionParsnip> d91eud: smacks of Microsoft don't you think?
[17:46] <edsage> does anyone know of a debian package of mono 3.4.0 for lucid 10.04
[17:47] <ActionParsnip> !ppa | edsage
[17:47] <ActionParsnip> edsage: may be a PPA for it there
[17:47] <kostkon> maxvi, search in the software centre. Also, there is pencil http://pencil.evolus.vn/
[17:47] <maxvi> kostkon: can't find ppa for pencil
[17:48] <kostkon> maxvi, you download the deb and double click on it
[17:48] <edsage> I already looked in the PPAs
[17:49] <adsmz> I'm having issues connecting to my wireless network. It seems my hardware refuses to turn on.
[17:49] <ActionParsnip> maxvi: cd $HOME; wget https://evoluspencil.googlecode.com/files/evoluspencil_2.0.5_all.deb; sudo dpkg -i ./evoluspencil_2.0.5_all.deb; sudo apt-get -f install
[17:50] <edsage> I'm currently tasked with creating a deb of mono for 10.04... Unfortunantly we cannot upgrade because of other dependancies, if anyone has any advice for creating debians... please let me know
[17:50] <EiriksUbuntu> I think I found an irritating little bug. When I download videos and if while downloading I take a look at the downloads folder then Ubuntu tries to make a preview, while it's making a preview it kicks the video out keeping the picture that it chooses to be the preview, so I can only see the preview picture while it plays the sound... any idea how to stop that?
[17:50] <donky> hi
[17:50] <adsmz> I've tried restarting the laptop and the card, but neither worked
[17:50] <donky> my biggest question is, Why should i use ubuntu instead of debian?
[17:50] <ActionParsnip> donky: its aimed at new linux users
[17:51] <donky> because, ubuntu is based on debian i cant figure it out
[17:51] <ActionParsnip> donky: it does more hand holding
[17:51] <edsage> If you're asking that question and cannot answer it for yourself, stick with Ubuntu
[17:52] <Slartibartfast13> I"m trying to figure out how to install Other-Life onto this PC which is running a live Kubuntu CD
[17:53] <MonkeyDust> donky  plenty review about your questions, here's one: http://superuser.com/questions/154333/what-is-the-difference-between-debian-and-ubuntu
[17:53] <Slartibartfast13> These are the installation instructions for Other-Life:
[17:53] <Slartibartfast13> http://pastebin.com/7J1WX8Cx
[17:53] <adsmz> yeah, #kubuntu wasn't very helpful with my networking issues
[17:53] <Slartibartfast13> The only part of these instructions for installing Other-Life, that I don't understand, is the following:
[17:53] <Slartibartfast13>  Set the execute bit on the executable programs (*bin):
[17:53] <Slartibartfast13>  chmod +x *bin
[17:53] <adsmz> in fact the person helping me dissappeard from the online list
[17:54] <Slartibartfast13> Is that a command line I need to enter in the command terminal, and at what point during the installation do I enter it?
[17:54] <EriC^^> Slartibartfast13: yes, it sets anything that ends with bin, as an executable, you should cd to the folder first and run it
[17:54] <postman|> My 14.04 system is running a second lightdm process: http://i.imgur.com/k3Erv0h.png  It occasionally locks me out of my desktop, requiring me to restart the service.  How is lightdm initiated during startup?  Where should I look to fix this?
[17:55] <adsmz> couldn't you also just go in, right click, and mark it executable from the properties thing?
[17:55] <adsmz> @ eriC^^
[17:55] <g00gz> Anyone familiar with running a tcpdump for SIP voip traffic?
[17:55] <kostkon> postman|, same here (on 12.04) so i'm guessing that's normal
[17:56] <EriC^^> adsmz: well, he'd have to do that for all bin files, that would do them all at once
[17:56] <g00gz> i'm trying to determine if iptables is causing the sip call to disconnect after 90sec
[17:56] <adsmz> ah, I see
[17:56] <Dario34> does anyone play Lin-city?
[17:56] <ActionParsnip> Dario34: many
[17:56] <postman|> kostkon:  Really?  I don't recall seeing the second instance before I installed (and then uninstalled) xfce4 a few days ago.
[17:56] <Dario34> i do but still miss sc 3000
[17:57] <Slartibartfast13> EriC:  When you say “cd”, do you mean enter that command into my terminal konsole?
[17:57] <indn1234> Slartibartfast13: yes
[17:57] <EriC^^> Slartibartfast13: cd /path/to/binfiles
[17:58] <EriC^^> ls to view directory contents
[17:58] <Dario34> ActionParsnip: in the early game what is the way of increasing tech level? schools only?
[17:59] <kostkon> postman|, check your logs
[18:00] <Dario34> does anyone have cities to share? (lin-city)
[18:01] <ChogyDan> is there a way to look at a dmesg from a previous boot (my laptop is locked up, and I can't seem to even alt+prtscrn+k)?
[18:01] <g00gz> anyone?
[18:02] <ikonia> the syslog contains dmesg
[18:02] <ChogyDan> kk, thanks ikonia
[18:03] <Slartibartfast13> When the Other-Life support says  “Download el_ol_linux_193.zip and extract it into a new folder,” do they mean extract it to the ol_linux folder?
[18:04] <Slartibartfast13> that was for EriC
[18:08] <EriC^^> Slartibartfast13: try unzip filename.zip
[18:08] <EriC^^> create a new folder (mkdir)
[18:08] <EriC^^> mv it there and unzip
[18:09] <Slartibartfast13> Should I create a new directory called ol_linux using the command terminal konsole?
[18:09] <EriC^^> ok
[18:09] <RoBo_V_> Guys I have .sh shell script how to make it execuatbale and run it on startup... ?
[18:10] <EriC^^> RoBo_V_: chmod +x script.sh
[18:10] <EriC^^> RoBo_V_: run it on start up, does it need privileges?
[18:10] <RoBo_V_> No I think
[18:10] <luffy> does anybody know how to use gdb?
[18:10] <EriC^^> you can add it to ~/.profile if you want
[18:11] <luffy> can anyone explain how to debug using gdb?
[18:11] <Slartibartfast13> Would this command work, EriC, "mkdir ol_linux"?
[18:12] <EriC^^> yes
[18:12] <edsage> @ luffy you compile the program and then run gdb on the binary
[18:12] <RoBo_V_> EriC^^: I see, how to add
[18:12] <cn28h> luffy: you'll probably want to be a little more specific ..
[18:12] <EriC^^> RoBo_V_: add the line sh script.sh to ~/.profile
[18:12] <luffy> Program received signal SIGSEGV, Segmentation fault.
[18:12] <luffy> 0x0000000000400735 in main ()
[18:12] <luffy> (gdb) bt
[18:12] <luffy> #0  0x0000000000400735 in main ()
[18:12] <xikkub> luffy: compile with debugging symbols (-g) and run in gdb with "gdb ./myprog"?
[18:13] <luffy> what does it mean?
[18:13] <RoBo_V_> EriC^^: okk let me try
[18:13] <edsage> first, don't put a ./
[18:13] <hashken> luffy: Compile as gcc -g -o myprog myprog.c
[18:14] <EriC^^> gdb doesn't help with segfaults though does it?
[18:14] <luffy> will i i be able to get the line number where segfault is occuring?
[18:14] <hashken> luffy: Not sure. I've heard valgrind is good for these purposes
[18:15] <xikkub> bt shows your call stack. you might find 'valgrind' to be useful
[18:15] <amae> guys, where i can find recycle bin in ubuntu 14.04
[18:15] <edsage> it can help with segfault, but it looks like its encounterng a segfault when it loads the binary
[18:15] <edsage> and valugrind is for checking memory leaks
[18:15] <edsage> valgrind*
[18:15] <luffy> hashken ,whats valgrind?
[18:15] <hashken> edsage: Oh, my bad
[18:15] <Slartibartfast13> Do you unzip a file by right clicking on it and choosing unzip, or do you do it in the command konsole?
[18:15] <edsage> @amae its called trash in ubuntu
[18:15] <EriC^^> amae: you mean the actual location of it?
[18:16] <cn28h> gdb certainly does help with seg faults
[18:16] <hashken> luffy: As edsage pointed put, valgrind is a tool for checking memory leaks
[18:16] <edsage> and you can find it by opening the file browser and looking at the left
[18:16] <cn28h> if you have built with debugging symbols, bt should print the line numbers in the stack trace
[18:16] <amae> EriC^^, yes, the exact loc
[18:16] <xikkub> valgrind isnt exclusively used for memory leaks, though thats what i use it most often for
[18:17] <luffy> so can i debug using valgrind?
[18:17] <EriC^^> amae: ~/.local/share/Trash
[18:17] <Slartibartfast13> sorry, EriC^^, for you I asked, "Do you unzip a file by right clicking on it and choosing unzip, or do you do it in the command konsole?
[18:17] <cn28h> valgrind is also very useful for memory corruption and catching uninitialized reads
[18:17] <EriC^^> amae: it's in the files directory
[18:17] <edsage> no, you debug with gdb
[18:17] <edsage> you check for memory leaks with valgrind
[18:17] <luffy> edsage,what is memory leak?
[18:18] <edsage> It's were you told the program to get some memory from the heap but you never told it to delete the memory
[18:18] <bkuberek> hello, having an issue with groups -- using usermod -a -G <group> <user>
[18:18] <amae> EriC^^, thanks :p
[18:18] <edsage> so for instance, you create a pointer, and then don't destroy the pointer, you will have a memory leak at some point
[18:18] <EriC^^> np :D
[18:19] <bkuberek> I am logged in as the user and if I do `id` vs `id <username>` different things are displayed
[18:19] <xikkub> edsage: only if you've dynamically allocated what it's pointing to, though?
[18:19] <edsage> Your problem is that your program is failing, probably because there's an error semantically with your code
[18:19] <luffy> edsage,can i get the line number of segfault using gdb?
[18:19] <EriC^^> Slartibartfast13: i think both work
[18:20] <EriC^^> bkuberek: that's normal
[18:20] <edsage> If you open it with gdb you can walk through your code until you encounter an error, but it sounds like your error is at the beginning of execution
[18:20] <bkuberek> EriC^^: how do I fix that?
[18:20] <bkuberek> I am trying to change permissions on a folder but it is not being activated
[18:20] <EriC^^> /etc/group and /etc/passwd can be read by everyone
[18:20] <EriC^^> bkuberek:  you don't :)
[18:20] <EriC^^> why do you want to fix it?
[18:20] <luffy> edsage ,how can one figure that out?(where the error is occuring)?
[18:21] <bkuberek> EriC^^: lets say I am logged in as foo
[18:21] <bkuberek> sudo usermod -G somegroup -a foo
[18:22] <Slartibartfast13> EriC^^ Do I run the “chmod +x *bin” command before or after I unzip the Other-Life el_ol_linux_193.zip file?
[18:22] <bkuberek> sudo chgrp somegroup somedir
[18:22] <EriC^^> Slartibartfast13: after
[18:22] <Slartibartfast13> thanks Eric
[18:22] <bkuberek> sudo chmod g+rwx somedir
[18:22] <edsage> @luffy you may need to just read through the code yourself and diagnose the error. GDB may not work until you've removed some of your intial errors
[18:22] <MonkeyDust> bkuberek  use a pastebin for multiple lines
[18:22] <EriC^^> Slartibartfast13: np
[18:22] <bkuberek> I am unable to list the files in dirt
[18:23] <luffy> edsage,eeee,thanks
[18:23] <bkuberek> MonkeyDust: I didn't paste them I typed them
[18:23] <bkuberek> but I will
[18:23] <EriC^^> ok, ls -l /path/to/dir , and id
[18:23] <EriC^^> sorry
[18:23] <EriC^^> ls -ld /path/to/dir
[18:23] <bkuberek> EriC^^: I will do a paste
[18:23] <EriC^^> paste those two lines here, it's fine
[18:24] <c0mrad3> can any one help me with installing webgoat
[18:24] <ikonia> what the devil is webgoat ?
[18:24] <edsage> @luffy sorry that I can't help you more, but just try to walk through the code in your head and see if you find any obvious errors
[18:25] <luffy> edsage,thanks i will try to figure it out,,thanks
[18:25] <Slartibartfast13> EriC^^  Can I use Dolphin File Manager to create the directory and move the zip file into it, instead of using the command terminal?
[18:25] <EriC^^> Slartibartfast13: yes
[18:25] <Slartibartfast13> Excellent
[18:27] <c0mrad3> Please set JAVA_HOME to a Java 1.5 JDK install
[18:27] <bkuberek> EriC^^: http://pastebin.com/1fSQpnrj
[18:27] <c0mrad3> what should i do when i get this
[18:30] <chemist^> !ask c0mrad3
[18:30] <chemist^> !ask
[18:30] <c0mrad3> kk @ubottu
[18:30] <bkuberek> !patience
[18:31] <edsage> comrad3 you need to set java_home in your terminal to your java binary
[18:31] <EriC^^> bkuberek: do this
[18:31] <EriC^^> exit
[18:31] <EriC^^> then login
[18:31] <EriC^^> id and id ubuntu will be consistent
[18:32] <edsage> you can also use a oracle-java-set-default package to do it for you
[18:33] <bkuberek> eraggo_: appears to be caching my session. I will try terminating my session
[18:33] <CodeGosu> what is easiest way to scheldue some scripts executed on startup, i do specificaly need a job to be run in visible terminals so i can easely see error messages invidualy as well as ability to close them on will
[18:33] <bkuberek> sorry I mean EriC^^
[18:33] <Slartibartfast13> EriC^^  Here is a summary of the installation instructions I got from the Other-Life website and from chatting with you....tell me if this is correct:
[18:33] <Slartibartfast13> http://pastebin.com/23B0SBNM
[18:34] <EriC^^> bkuberek: you can either logout or login, or login again using su ubuntu
[18:34] <Slartibartfast13> I cut it down to four steps
[18:35] <dogarrhea> how recommended is it to hack xorg, download untested nvidia drivers and restart?
[18:35] <dogarrhea> is there a real possibility of bricking my computer?
[18:35] <chaos10> hello, i am facing a problem with 14.04 on a laptop, after an upgrade, i can't get to login screen without "nomodeset" in the boot parameters. I get a black screen with blinking cursor.
[18:35] <Slartibartfast13> EriC^^  Then I pasted it here, so you can check if I got the 4 steps right  http://pastebin.com/23B0SBNM
[18:35] <JagaJaga> HI guys! Trying to install ceph on 12.04. But when updating repos apt Ignores my ceph repo. That's why it installs old version from ubuntu's repos. How to fix it?
[18:35] <CodeGosu> are there tools that can scheldue startup stuff in terminals somehow like this
[18:35] <CodeGosu> terminal  1:  cd ~/blah/blah; lsc -cwo . .
[18:35] <CodeGosu> terminal  2:  cd ~/blah2/; python3 -m http.server
[18:35] <CodeGosu> terminal  3:  cd ~/blah3/; ./blahblah
[18:36] <EriC^^> CodeGosu: you can use gnome-terminal to open it in a terminal
[18:36] <systest> does anyone still use sysstat?  the defaults in the package are sort of useless (1 data point every 10 minutes)
[18:36] <Slartibartfast13> EriC^^  Will those 4 steps work?
[18:36] <EriC^^> CodeGosu: gnome terminal -e "bash -c '<yourcommand>; exec bash -i'"
[18:37] <EriC^^> CodeGosu: that will execute it in a terminal, and leave it open after the program finishes
[18:38] <systest> CodeGosu, what do you mean by "schedule"?  It's going to be tough to open a terminal window unless you already have some sort of GUI session open.
[18:38] <eraggo_> bkuberek: np
[18:38] <JagaJaga> Guys? :(
[18:39] <Slartibartfast13> Can someone check that I got these 4 steps right?  http://pastebin.com/23B0SBNM
[18:39] <MonkeyDust> !find ceph
[18:40] <guardianpwr08> hello... on my web server after maybe a day, the URL wont resolve.... but the IP address works great. if i run "ps aux | grep apache2 | wc -l" it showed 150 + instances of apache running...  the only thing i knew to do was restart apache, which fixed the problem and started apache back at around 14 instances.   I am totally clueless on what to do to fix this...
[18:41] <MonkeyDust> JagaJaga  the repos contain ceph 0.80.5
[18:41] <JagaJaga> MonkeyDust: yeah, man. I know it. But in 12.04 repos it's old. How to force it download from another repo (which I've added to sources.list)?
[18:41] <MonkeyDust> JagaJaga  try a !backport
[18:42] <JagaJaga> MonkeyDust: what is it?
[18:42] <JagaJaga> (I'm out of ubuntu at all, using another distro for years)
[18:42] <MonkeyDust> !backport | JagaJaga
[18:42] <autoburger> right
[18:43] <JagaJaga> MonkeyDust: thx
[18:43] <JagaJaga> MonkeyDust: gonna go this way
[18:45] <HideMe> Anyone using KVM with PCI Pass-through?
[18:46] <ChogyDan> JagaJaga: what do you mean it ignores your ceph repo?  it shouldn't do that.  If backports doesn't work for you, maybe pastebin the errors and outputs and the commands used, and such
[18:46] <Slartibartfast13> Oh yeah, look at stage 3, I think I made a mistake
[18:48] <EriC^^> Slartibartfast13: how many bin files are there?
[18:48] <Slartibartfast13> I forgot to write this command first, "cd ol_linux".  Then I execute this command...chmod +x *bin
[18:49] <Slartibartfast13> I have no idea, cause I have not unzipped the zip game file yet, EriC^^
[18:49] <EriC^^> well you should try it
[18:49] <autoburger> ok sysadmins, what do you interview for?
[18:49] <EriC^^> as it could unzip to a folder itself
[18:49] <Slartibartfast13> No one has verified my four steps yet, and I made a mistake with step 3
[18:49] <autoburger> I have apparently gotn old and have been dissed 3x
[18:49] <rww> ubottu: ot | autoburger
[18:50] <EriC^^> Slartibartfast13: like you could unzip it and it could make it's own folders,
[18:50] <autoburger> I am wondering if  my impertinent manner perhaps is to blame
[18:50] <EriC^^> Slartibartfast13: i told you to make a new folder as the instructions are not clear enough, i didn't want you to unzip them and have a bunch of files in your home directory
[18:50] <Slartibartfast13> But why would that matter, if all the folders are inside the ol_linux folder, EriC^^ ?
[18:51] <EriC^^> Slartibartfast13: cuz then you'd have to cd ol_linux\other folder
[18:51] <thc> i got ubuntu desktop on now it says system error each time after i login
[18:52] <JagaJaga> ChogyDan: trying do this http://ceph.com/docs/master/install/upgrading-ceph/ After adding repo of Ceph it still installsversion from repo of precise. (Just add to sources >> update >> install ceph >> ceph version 0.41 instead of 0.80)
[18:53] <ChogyDan> JagaJaga: and then what is the command that you ran to update?
[18:53] <thc> anyone? run into this problem?
[18:54] <JagaJaga> ChogyDan: apt-get -q update
[18:54] <clarjon1> Heyo, i have ubuntu installed on my server, and i just got this when i tried to apt-get update: http://privatepaste.com/0d5fac536c
[18:54] <ChogyDan> thc: can you describe the issue more?  is it a popup?  any other details?
[18:54] <clarjon1> What should i tweak in my sources to fix this? Thanks.
[18:55] <Beldar> clarjon1, quantal is eol
[18:55] <Slartibartfast13> EriC^^:  Please just look at the first 4 steps and tell me if anything needs to be changed.  I revised step 3 in this new pastebin: http://pastebin.com/LM1tVWGE
[18:55] <rww> !eolupgrades
[18:55] <clarjon1> Beldar: apt-get dist-upgrade then?
[18:55] <ChogyDan> JagaJaga: and then apt-get upgrade says nothing?
[18:55] <rww> clarjon1: see the link at the end of ubottu's message
[18:55] <clarjon1> looking at it now
[18:56] <JagaJaga> ChogyDan: nothing about ceph
[18:56] <EriC^^> Slartibartfast13: i can only tell you to test this if you're handing this out to someone else
[18:57] <ChogyDan> JagaJaga: can you pastebin the ouput of apt-cache policy ceph-deploy
[18:57] <Slartibartfast13> Keep in mind I"m using a Live CD
[18:57] <EriC^^> Slartibartfast13: i dont know if the file manager will run a program if you double click it
[18:57] <clarjon1> rww: Dang, that page doesn't have an upgrade from quantal -- it stops at a version before quantal.
[18:57] <EriC^^> Slartibartfast13: what distro are you using again?
[18:57] <Slartibartfast13> Kubuntu 14.04 live CD
[18:58] <JagaJaga> ChogyDan: http://pastebin.com/rKSFcGrT
[18:58] <EriC^^> ok well, that means whatever you do you can't mess up, right?
[18:58] <Slartibartfast13> yeah, because it's a live CD.  If things go wrong, I can just reboot
[18:59] <Slartibartfast13> and it will disappear from my RAM, I am assuming
[18:59] <rww> clarjon1: oh. fun :c
[19:00] <EriC^^> Slartibartfast13: curious, who are these instructions for?
[19:00] <Slartibartfast13> But look at stage 3, are the command lines right, EriC^^ ?
[19:00] <Slartibartfast13> for me
[19:00] <EriC^^> so why don't you follow them
[19:00] <Slartibartfast13> http://pastebin.com/LM1tVWGE
[19:00] <EriC^^> and see if they work
[19:00] <EriC^^> ?
[19:00] <EriC^^> :D
[19:00] <ChogyDan> JagaJaga: and you want firefly, and you want to upgrade ceph, right?  What does apt-get upgrade ceph say?
[19:00] <clarjon1> and of course i didn't have the update-manager-core installed, so i have to mod the sources manually. At least that page gives me enough info to get that far :) Thanks rww
[19:00] <Slartibartfast13> just want to check the command lines first, to save time
[19:01] <EriC^^> ^^ not making sense
[19:01] <EriC^^> unzip the file
[19:01] <EriC^^> chmod, and try to double click
[19:02] <Slartibartfast13> What doesn't make sense?  How do I fix it?  Change stage 3?
[19:02] <helo> where the heck does apport put my cores?
[19:02] <helo> (noticed it steals my cores because of /proc/sys/kernel/core_pattern)
[19:03] <Slartibartfast13> Sorry, EriC^^, I did not address you, when I asked how to fix stage 3
[19:03]  * clarjon1 facedesk.
[19:04] <JagaJaga> ChogyDan: http://pastebin.com/wXY8f49a
[19:04] <CodeGosu> how to execute multiply sequntial commands in terminal in one line? first one works, but second dosent
[19:04] <CodeGosu> gnome-terminal -e ls
[19:04] <CodeGosu> gnome-terminal -e cd /home/code && ls
[19:04] <havarka> hi guys, i am using Chromium, and when I click on magnet link on thepiratebay or kickass i guess it aplly to any other site as well instead of opening the deluge its just open new window in google, how to associate deluge with chromium? thx
[19:05] <Slartibartfast13> Please look at the commands in stage 3, and tell me how to fix them, EriC^^, http://pastebin.com/LM1tVWGE
[19:05] <clarjon1> of course the upgrade tool doesn't install it's full dependencies. Why on earth would it do that? Why on earth would update-manager-core need to mark python-apt as a dependency... *continues frustrated grumbling under breath*
[19:05] <ChogyDan> JagaJaga: heh, I dunno.  Maybe try aptitude
[19:06] <TJ-> CodeGosu: "&&" will only execute the 2nd command if the 1st returns TRUE
[19:06] <JagaJaga> ChogyDan: oh shi~ :( With aptitude no luck too.
[19:06] <SleepyPi1achu> I'm using ubuntu 12.04, I attempted to manually install some 14 packages to enable the drm features in google-chrome. However this hasn't worked and now when I do an apt I get the following output http://pastebin.com/ryGX392S
[19:06] <JagaJaga> ChogyDan: there is no way in ubuntu to tell install ceph-0.80? Or smth like that?
[19:06] <TJ-> CodeGosu: If you want to pass the entire line to gnome-terminal, enclose it in quote marks
[19:07] <ChogyDan> JagaJaga: maybe try here: http://superuser.com/questions/95938/apt-get-for-a-particular-version    and specify the whole 0.8 version string
[19:08] <luffy> if i remove zeistgeist will my system speed up?or will there be any side effects?
[19:10] <JagaJaga> ChogyDan: this way have to specify version for all deps too.. Eh...
[19:10] <ChogyDan> JagaJaga: the last idea I can think of would be to apt-get install --reinstall ceph, see if that grabs the latest
[19:11] <JagaJaga> ChogyDan: already. No luck
[19:11] <MonkeyDust> luffy  is this useful http://askubuntu.com/questions/45548/disabling-zeitgeist
[19:12] <frankqux> hi, anyone here use policykit with xinit/startx ?
[19:13] <jhutchins> frankqux: What did you try to do?  How did you try to do it?  What did you expect to happen?  What happened instead?
[19:13] <ChogyDan> JagaJaga: and you have tried dist-upgrade as well?
[19:14] <JagaJaga> ChogyDan: can't do it. Need server runnig for research.
[19:14] <JagaJaga> ChogyDan: heh, 9 pkgs with version written did the job... F.. ubuntu
[19:15] <ChogyDan> JagaJaga: what do you mean?  dist-upgrade just allows new packages to be installed.   so apt-get dist-upgrade ceph shouldn't affect the rest of your system
[19:16] <JagaJaga> ChogyDan: well i did this `apt-get install pkg1=version1 pkg2=version2...`
[19:16] <MonkeyDust> JagaJaga  dist-upgrade is not the same as a release upgrade
[19:16] <evigrande> s
[19:16] <soman> Why I always get skype tray context menu with only about 3 items and up and down buttons? Last skype release xubuntu 12.04.1
[19:16] <ChogyDan> JagaJaga: yep, a pain.  sorry about that
[19:16] <soman> How make skype to show all items at once
[19:18] <JagaJaga> ChogyDan: thx for all your help!
[19:18] <ChogyDan> np, take care
[19:18] <havarka> MonkeyDust, whats the difference?
[19:18] <SirRiffsAlot> Hey guys, is it possible to encrypt a flash drive containing, say music files, and enable anyone plugging it into their machine to listen to the files without being able to copy or alter them in any way?
[19:19] <MonkeyDust> havarka  dist-upgrade upgradess the packages to the newest version, that's not the same as a new ubuntu version
[19:19] <ChogyDan> SirRiffsAlot: that is DRM not encryption
[19:19] <Igurd> SirRiffsAlot: not really
[19:19] <Igurd> as in every drm gets broken once somebody with skills cares enough about it
[19:20] <alicewand> Hi, does anyone know how I can install the i386 version of this package from the command line? http://packages.ubuntu.com/trusty/f2c
[19:20] <MonkeyDust> alicewand  is it in the repos? if not, try wget and then dpkg -i
[19:21] <SirRiffsAlot> ChogyDan: Igurd :-S
[19:21] <alicewand> MonkeyDust, I'im new to Ubuntu, what is the repos?
[19:21] <havarka> MonkeyDust, and how to you upgrade to new ubuntu version what is the command?
[19:21] <MonkeyDust> havarka  do-release-upgrade
[19:22] <frankqux> I'm trying to find the correct way to invoke the policykit agent via startx/xinit. the end of my .xinitrc looks like http://paste.ubuntu.com/8311986/ . it seems to work but I don't know much about dbus/consolekit/policykit so I don't know if those commands overlap or if one is meant to replace another
[19:22] <Igurd> SirRiffsAlot: why do you want to do that? :v
[19:22] <Igurd> maybe there's another solution
[19:22] <havarka> MonkeyDust, but the question is, isnt the best to have LTS ?
[19:22] <alicewand> I would like to specify using the i386 instead of the AMD64 version of the package because my machine is 64 bits but I'm doing some 32-bit stuff
[19:22] <SirRiffsAlot> Igurd: well, in my school there are several drummers, and I wanna show them my stuff and enable them to listen to it in peace so I'm not there to make them awkward. However I don't want to spread my soundfiles all over the place
[19:22] <MonkeyDust> havarka  yes, if you want long support
[19:22] <alicewand> so I don't want to automatically let wget install the default
[19:23] <SirRiffsAlot> Igurd: but DRM sounds good, I'll look into it! Thanks ChogyDan!
[19:23] <havarka> and new version if you want new features, correct? MonkeyDust
[19:23] <MonkeyDust> havarka  yes, if you want the latest and greatest - I prefer LTS releases
[19:23] <ChogyDan> SirRiffsAlot: there may not be any sort of DRM available on linux.  That might be a dead end, but it is the correct term...
[19:24] <clarjon1> rww: Woohoo! do-release-upgrade worked! After having to install a hard dependency that wasn't taken care of by apt, but still, success! :3
[19:24] <SirRiffsAlot> ChogyDan: any other ideas then?
[19:24] <havarka> MonkeyDust, so whats the difference between apt-get upgrade and dist-upgrade ?
[19:25] <MonkeyDust> havarka  that, my friend, i am not sure of myself
[19:25] <SirRiffsAlot> havarka: you upgrade for instance kernels as well
[19:25] <rww> clarjon1: good to know :D
[19:26] <clarjon1> havarka: apt-get upgrade will select all the packages it can to update, without uninstalling packages.
[19:26] <clarjon1> havarka: apt-get dist-upgrade will do a full upgrade of all packages, even if it means that due to dependency conflicts, packages get removed
[19:26] <ChogyDan> SirRiffsAlot: I would use soundcloud or some other service.
[19:26] <clarjon1> havarka: That is the difference from my experiences with it
[19:27] <SirRiffsAlot> ChogyDan: Hmm
[19:27] <CodeGosu> i want to write a line in sh file that calls terminal, it executes many commands in raw, but i want it to be readable, how to seperate in into several lines?
[19:27] <CodeGosu> gnome-terminal -e "bash -c 'cd /home/qq/code; ls; some other actions that might be better on 30 lines; exec bash -i;'"
[19:27] <calahan>  /sc
[19:27] <SirRiffsAlot> ChogyDan: I don't wanna upload stuff into a "cloud", kinda defeats my goal to begin with
[19:27] <calahan> sorry missed window
[19:27] <clarjon1> havarka: So if certain packages need to be upgraded in a specific order, which often happens when updating a distro version.... dist-upgrade will nuke a lot of 'em.
[19:27] <MonkeyDust> CodeGosu  there's also the channel #bash
[19:28] <havarka> so the best is to do apt-get upgrade and then dist-upgrade, and everything should be ok?!
[19:28] <clarjon1> havarka: It's actually best to use the distro upgrade tool that canonical provides
[19:29] <clarjon1> There iiiiis a way to upgrade to another version without it, which includes editing the sources.d yourself and then managing updating the packages yourself ( i've done such things before) but it is NOT recommended at all, unless you know whatyou're doing
[19:29] <havarka> clarjon1, ok
[19:30] <clarjon1> havarka: It's mostly a process of try to upgrade everything, find out what it wants to delete to do the upgrade, upgrade the packages it wants to delete first to fix the dependency issues, repeat until system is upgraded
[19:31] <clarjon1> rather tedious and involved.
[19:31] <havarka> i see
[19:31] <ChogyDan> havarka: I have done that in the past.  It isn't worth it.  It leaves behind a lot of old packages as well
[19:31] <clarjon1> ^
[19:31] <havarka> and anyway who needs the most up-to-date system when everything works well?
[19:31] <havarka> ChogyDan, but you can to autoremove afterwards
[19:32] <ChogyDan> havarka: no, you can't
[19:32] <alicewand> does anyone know how I can change the architecture on aptitude from amd64 to i386?
[19:32] <alicewand> for an installation?
[19:32] <alicewand> change the architecture for an aptitude installation from amd64 to i386
[19:32] <havarka> ChogyDan, that sucks
[19:33] <ChogyDan> havarka: and further, there are potential configuration issues that are handled by the upgrade tool that wouldn't be handled by such upgrades
[19:33] <havarka> ChogyDan, so whats the best way according to you?
[19:33] <ChogyDan> I ran into all this stuff because years ago, I didn't know they had an upgrade tool
[19:33] <jgornick> Hey guys, is it possible to install an older version of a package from a PPA? For example, I'm trying to install an older version of Node.js from https://launchpad.net/~chris-lea/+archive/ubuntu/node.js
[19:34] <SleepyPi1achu> Can anyone help me with this: http://pastebin.com/AwgdkQkz I'm stuck in a loop (sudo apt-get -f install instructs me to call it again)
[19:36] <ChogyDan> havarka: I dunno, either the upgrade tool, or clean installs I guess
[19:36] <ChogyDan> SleepyPi1achu: what is the output of apt-get install libnss3?
[19:37] <havarka> but before you said it leaves lot of old packages, but still its the best?
[19:37] <SleepyPi1achu> ChogyDan: http://pastebin.com/1er0yUg7
[19:38] <ChogyDan> havarka: the do-release tool and the graphical tool have a part where they remove the old packages
[19:38] <ChogyDan> SleepyPi1achu: apt-cache policy libnss3*
[19:38] <havarka> i see, so the tool its the best, no disadvantages
[19:39] <SleepyPi1achu> http://pastebin.com/PvPKpWnV
[19:40] <ChogyDan> havarka: it is where the ubuntu devs put all their work to make things work.  So, if there are any bugs that someone comes up with a fix for, it will be integrated into those tools.  They are where the best will go, I suppose
[19:40] <SleepyPi1achu> ChogyDan: forgot to tag you, sorry. Thanks for your help so far :-)
[19:40] <Slartibartfast13> EriC^^  I created a directory called ol_linux, then I moved the zip file to that directory and extracted the zip file there, and it automatically created a new directory called ol_linux with the ol_linux directory
[19:40] <Slartibartfast13> within the ol_linux directory, (same name)
[19:41] <autoburger> Slartibartfast13: you are learning the ancient sorcery of zip and unzip
[19:41] <autoburger> are you standing ina macgic circle?
[19:41] <autoburger> or pentagram
[19:41] <autoburger> ?
[19:42] <Slartibartfast13> in that double directory, it created a bunch of folders and files and two of the files are bin files
[19:42] <havarka> ChogyDan, thanks for explanations
[19:42] <Slartibartfast13> So how do I make those two bin files executable?
[19:43] <havarka> PROBLEM: I am using Chrome, and when I click on magnet link on thepiratebay or kickass i guess it aplly to any other site as well instead of opening the deluge its just open new window in google, how to associate deluge with chromium?
[19:43] <Slartibartfast13> I tried the command chmod +x *bin, but Kubuntu told me "Cannot access chmod: no such file or directory"
[19:43] <ChogyDan> SleepyPi1achu: where did you get libnss3-1d?  Did you download it separately?  When did these errors start?
[19:44] <SleepyPi1achu> ChogyDan: I tried to manually install some packages from 14, I understand that was a mistake but I'm having trouble correcting it. :P
[19:44] <Slartibartfast13> EriC^^ et autoburger chmod: cannot access ‘*bin’: No such file or directory
[19:44] <ikonia> Slartibartfast13: then you are not in the same directory as the file you are trying to chmod
[19:45] <ChogyDan> SleepyPi1achu: would you be ok with removing those 2 packages, and then reinstalling them?  That would down grade their versions, and they would be removed temporarily
[19:45] <ikonia> it's not just the two packages
[19:45] <ikonia> did they pull in any dependencies
[19:45] <SleepyPi1achu> ChogyDan: I've tried to do that but I'm more than happy to give it a shot. I've taken a snapshot of my vm anyway - I can always roll back
[19:45] <ikonia> did they force the upgrade of any packages currently installed to meet dependencies
[19:46] <Slartibartfast13> I ran "ls" in the ol._linux directory, and got two names....ol_linux....and.....ol_linux_193.zip
[19:46] <ikonia> Slartibartfast13: what exactly are you trying to do
[19:46] <ikonia> Slartibartfast13: you seem to have been struggling for a while now
[19:46] <Foxy1604> hi!!
[19:46] <Slartibartfast13> Yeah, I need to go inside the ol_linux which is inside the directory of the same name
[19:46] <ChogyDan> SleepyPi1achu: if you wanted to upgrade libnss3, or whatever, you would need to uprade all the dependencies from whatever source you are using, fyi
[19:46] <Foxy1604> Anyone wanna help me with a Ubuntu related question?? (My sister broke her laptop while updating x3)
[19:47] <Guest7993> How bad is it?
[19:47] <Slartibartfast13> ikonia, Install and excecute the game called Other-Life, that is my goal
[19:47] <SleepyPi1achu> ChogyDan: Can you help me with what you suggested? Removing the package and then installing it again from the repo? I'll upgrade to 14 once I'm table
[19:47] <SleepyPi1achu> stable*
[19:47] <Slartibartfast13> I am running Kubuntu 14.04 off a live CD
[19:48] <ikonia> SleepyPi1achu: it's not just those packages
[19:48] <ChogyDan> SleepyPi1achu: apt-get remove libnss3-1d libnss3-nssdb
[19:48] <ikonia> SleepyPi1achu: it's any others they touched via dependencies
[19:49] <x_root> hello, i'm on gnome-shell.. alt+tab is not working as intended..  it should, every time i press tab it should go to the next program
[19:49] <ChogyDan> ikonia: he installed those 2 packages from random debs, it looks like.  That's why it can't find the dependencies since it wans't through apt
[19:49] <x_root> but this is working now only with super+tab.. how to fix this?
[19:49] <Foxy1604> my sis was upgrading her laptop (a old Samsumg mini-laptop with Atom processor) but got a bit impatient and turned it off while upgrading..
[19:49] <ikonia> ChogyDan: it will still match dependencies
[19:50] <fdisk122> Foxy1604: was there any valuable data on it?
[19:50] <Foxy1604> now it trows a lot of error messages like packages that can be found but it dont wanna install
[19:50] <Foxy1604> fdisk122: all of her homework and programms
[19:51] <Foxy1604> the homework is something i can save but the programs..
[19:51] <SleepyPi1achu> ikonia: Agreed but can't I now install the correct packages at the bottom of the tree>
[19:51] <Foxy1604> that is the big how..
[19:51] <ChogyDan> ikonia: the updated depends aren't available in the repos.  Here is what he posted, fyi: http://pastebin.com/PvPKpWnV
[19:51] <fdisk122> Foxy1604: Can you boot into recovery from GRUB?
[19:51] <ikonia> ChogyDan: then it wouldn't have installed
[19:51] <ikonia> ChogyDan: if the dependencies couldn't be met as they are not available, it wouldn't have installed
[19:52] <ChogyDan> ikonia: good point.  I don't know how he got those packages on his system
[19:52] <Slartibartfast13> I used these commands, and it worked...kubuntu@kubuntu:~/ol_linux$ cd /home/kubuntu/ol_linux/ol_linux
[19:52] <Slartibartfast13> kubuntu@kubuntu:~/ol_linux/ol_linux$ chmod +x *bin
[19:52] <Foxy1604> fdisk122: yes i can! :D
[19:52] <Foxy1604> fdisk122: let me do that right now ;)
[19:52] <fdisk122> Foxy1604: Try restarting the upgrade from there with sudo apt-get update then sudo apt-get upgrade
[19:52] <Slartibartfast13> Does that mean the two bin files in that double directory are now executable?
[19:53] <fdisk122> Foxy1604: You may need to run sudo dkpg --configura -a also
[19:53] <fdisk122> *configure
[19:53] <Foxy1604> okay!!
[19:53] <Foxy1604> just a sec :3
[19:53] <fdisk122> If that doesn't work there's a fix you can try if you can boot to an Ubuntu live CD or USB
[19:53] <Slartibartfast13> the directory is called ol_linux/ol_linux....it's a directory inside a directory of the same name
[19:53] <Foxy1604> kay recovery booted..
[19:54] <notnarb> I've added a stick of ram to my computer and everything seems to be working fine (even ran a pass of memtest), but now I can't resume from suspend without the computer seizing on a black screen (cursor appears and can be moved for a short while, then frozen).  I diffed my pm-suspend.log and no difference from a successful resume.  (14.04/3.13)
[19:54] <notnarb> Do I need to increase my swap size maybe?
[19:54] <ChogyDan> SleepyPi1achu: where did you get those packages from?
[19:54] <SleepyPi1achu> ChogyDan: ikonia I installed them from debs downloaded from here and similar http://packages.ubuntu.com/utopic/amd64/libnss3/download
[19:54] <evil_dan2wik> notnarb, yes.
[19:54] <fdisk122> Foxy1604: First try resuming the update and upgrade with apt-get
[19:55] <evil_dan2wik> notnarb, but sometimes, the ram just doesn't work with suspend and ubuntu.
[19:55] <Foxy1604> fdisk122: okay!!
[19:56] <alesan> hello which application is there in UBUNTU to open dxf files? I do not need to edit them just to open and maybe esport as PDF or image
[19:56] <Foxy1604> fdisk122: ehm.. it say's things like (with a rugh translation) unmet depencies
[19:56] <fdisk122> Foxy1604: Is networking enabled?
[19:56] <Foxy1604> jep ;)
[19:57] <Slartibartfast13> I tried double clicking on this file, ol.x86-64.linux.bin
[19:57] <Foxy1604> update worked like a charm
[19:57] <Foxy1604> let's try pinging to google ;_
[19:57] <fdisk122> Foxy1604: You may have to plug in an Ethernet cable and run dhclient eth0 if not
[19:57] <Slartibartfast13> But it just asks me to open it using some app I must choose
[19:57] <ChogyDan> SleepyPi1achu: did you download libnss3?  it is still the old version, which is what apt originally complained about.
[19:57] <Foxy1604> fdisk122: yep i do have internet ;)
[19:57] <notnarb> evil_dan2wik: thanks, I guess I'll try resizing my swap
[19:58] <fdisk122> Foxy1604: try sudo dpkg --configure -a
[19:58] <SleepyPi1achu> ChogyDan: I don't remember. I'll try
[19:58] <ChogyDan> Foxy1604: was she running regular ubuntu?
[19:58] <Slartibartfast13> How can I execute the following file....ol.x86-64.linux.bin
[19:59] <Foxy1604> fdisk122: i just did that and it failed with..  a lot of programs on the screen..
[19:59] <Foxy1604> ChogyDan: yes she was running a LTS version ;)
[19:59] <Slartibartfast13> Is there a command that I can use in the terminal  konsole to execute a file?
[19:59] <SleepyPi1achu> ChogyDan: http://pastebin.com/skzXZZXc
[19:59] <ChogyDan> Slartibartfast13: on a cli, you just ./bin_name.bin
[20:00] <Slartibartfast13> cli?  What is cli?
[20:00] <Slartibartfast13> cli = command line?
[20:01] <Spec> yes
[20:01] <MonkeyDust> cli = command line interface, as opposed to gui, graphic user interface
[20:01] <ChogyDan> SleepyPi1achu: yeah, sorry, I can't help with installing packages across releases.  I can help downgrading back to normal if that's what you'd like
[20:01] <Spec> or webui, :p
[20:01] <fdisk122> Foxy1604: Perhaps try sudo rm /etc/apt/sources.list.d/*
[20:01] <SleepyPi1achu> ChogyDan: Yeah I just want to get back into a stable state
[20:01] <fdisk122> or if you have ppa-purge installed use that
[20:01] <Foxy1604> fdisk122: okay!! just a sec :3
[20:01] <ChogyDan> SleepyPi1achu: did that remove command work?
[20:01] <fdisk122> then sudo apt-get update again and sudo apt-get -f install
[20:01] <ChogyDan> Foxy1604: and pastebin the errors you get
[20:02] <Slartibartfast13> should I type this in the command line?.....    ./ol.x86-64.linux.bin    ?
[20:02] <MonkeyDust> Slartibartfast13  yes, if you are in the right folder
[20:02] <SleepyPi1achu> ChogyDan: That leaves me with http://pastebin.com/N4s11G5k
[20:03] <SleepyPi1achu> ChogyDan: and apt-get -f install takes me back to the start state I think
[20:03] <Foxy1604> ChogyDan: that could be difficult.. i am using a my own laptop to chat to you all..
[20:03] <Slartibartfast13> thanks CHogy and MOnkey
[20:03] <Foxy1604> so....
[20:03] <Foxy1604> ^^"
[20:03] <fdisk122> Foxy1604: Just type really fast.
[20:03] <ChogyDan> SleepyPi1achu: does it?  exact same packages?
[20:03] <Foxy1604> lib
[20:03] <Foxy1604> oops
[20:04] <alicewand> Does anyone know how to get the f2c i386 library to work with gfortran on Ubuntu? http://askubuntu.com/q/522526
[20:04] <Foxy1604> i can send a pic.. :3
[20:04] <SleepyPi1achu> ChogyDan: http://pastebin.com/nsdEas15
[20:05] <MonkeyDust> alicewand  it says here, gfortran is gcc relatede ... are you a developer
[20:05] <ChogyDan> SleepyPi1achu: maybe try: dpkg --remove on the two packages.  If that doesn't work, dpkg --remove --force-all.   When it does work, apt-get install -f
[20:05] <alicewand> I'm a grad student
[20:05] <alicewand> trying to get some old fortran code to work for some physics problems
[20:06] <MonkeyDust> alicewand  you need it for development?
[20:06] <alicewand> I do need to run the fortran, and the fortran is f77
[20:06] <alicewand> I have some computer background
[20:07] <ChogyDan> alicewand: off hand suggestion, install a virtualmachine, and run a 32bit version of ubuntu.
[20:07] <SleepyPi1achu> ChogyDan: You're a hero. Thanks :-)
[20:07] <Slartibartfast13> the command did not work.....here are the results....
[20:07] <Slartibartfast13> ./ol.x86-64.linux.bin: error while loading shared libraries: libSDL-1.2.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[20:07] <ChogyDan> SleepyPi1achu: yw
[20:07] <SleepyPi1achu> ikonia: Thanks for your input also. :-)
[20:08] <alicewand> So basically I need a 32 bit ubuntu
[20:08] <alicewand> or else it won't work
[20:08] <Slartibartfast13> is there a way to execute the file by using the Dolphin file manager?
[20:09] <fdisk122> Startibartfast13: Why are you trying to execute that file?
[20:09] <trism> alicewand: you have a capital L on the cuba lib, don't you want -lcuba ?
[20:09] <alicewand> trism, cuba is a directory
[20:09] <Foxy1604> fdisk122: here ya go!!
[20:09] <Foxy1604> fdisk122: http://nl.tinypic.com/r/25zjgvb/8
[20:09] <alicewand> trism, I thought a directory needs a capital L
[20:09] <Foxy1604> fdisk122: i hope it helps :3
[20:10] <Guest8610> Slartibartfast13, maybe +x flag missed on your file? chmod +x ?
[20:10] <fdisk122> He doesn't have the correct dependencies or something it seems
[20:10] <fdisk122> Slartibartfast13: sudo apt-get install libsdl1.2-dev libsdl-image1.2-dev libsdl-mixer1.2-dev libsdl-ttf2.0-dev
[20:11] <Slartibartfast13> yeah, smn told me that chmod +x command may not work if you got more than one bin file in that directory
[20:11] <fdisk122> Foxy1604: I'll check out the error now it's loading
[20:11] <trism> alicewand: I just ask because it is looking for a symbol from the cuba lib according to a quick google search
[20:11] <Foxy1604> fdisk122: kay!
[20:11] <ChogyDan> Foxy1604: can you install pastebinit?
[20:11] <Slartibartfast13> fdisk122 Keep in mind I am running a live Kubuntu CD.  Will those commands still work?
[20:12] <alicewand> trism, I'm new to all this, should I have a small l then?
[20:12] <fdisk122> Slartibartfast13: Possibly, depending on your computer's RAM
[20:12] <trism> alicewand: would give it a shot, do you have libcuba3-dev installed?
[20:12] <Foxy1604> ChogyDan: if i could.. it does not let me install me anything.. (even apt-get install -f) does nothing
[20:12] <Slartibartfast13> Is that all one huge comnmand line, fdisk122  ?
[20:12] <ChogyDan> Foxy1604: what is the error when you try pastebinit?
[20:13] <alicewand> if I put -lcuba, it says it can't find -lcuba
[20:13] <fdisk122> Slartibartfast13: yes
[20:13] <trism> alicewand: do you have libcuba3-dev installed?
[20:13] <alicewand> trism, I guess not
[20:13] <Foxy1604> ChogyDan: that the install has failed and that i should try -f (which i already used x3)
[20:14] <alicewand> trism, should I get libcuba3:i386 or libcuba3-dev:i386
[20:14] <ChogyDan> Foxy1604: what is the error when you do -f?
[20:14] <Foxy1604> ChogyDan: let me see.. just a sec ;)
[20:14] <trism> alicewand: you would need the -dev one
[20:15] <fdisk122> Foxy1604: What command did you run when it gave you those packages? Was that dpkg --configure?
[20:15] <Foxy1604> fdisk122: yes ;)
[20:15] <alicewand> trism, do you know the reason to use dev? because would I need devs for other stuff as well then?
[20:16] <ChogyDan> it is dpkg --configure -a
[20:16] <yano> what command can i run to make ubuntu pop up with the "Add Printer" dialog?
[20:16] <yano> i'm not using any of the default stock DEs
[20:17] <yano> and cups is being a pita with authentication
[20:17] <yano> (i've tried editing the cups config directly and restarting it and nothing is actually changing on localhost:631)
[20:18] <Slartibartfast13> fdisk122, I ran the command and it installed a whole bunch of stuff, is all that for the game?
[20:18] <Slartibartfast13> I think it installed 186 MB of data
[20:19] <alami> hello, xrldp work only if i have install xfce?
[20:19] <Slartibartfast13> fdisk122, so what do I do next, try running the game?
[20:19] <mjrosenb> hey, all.  I'm trying to re-install a kernel on my pandaboard, and it looks like it isn't running the postinst hooks necessary to get a new kernel.
[20:19] <mjrosenb> any idea how to figure out what is wrong?
[20:19] <fdisk122> Slartibartfast13: yes, try again
[20:20] <yano> found it, system-config-printer
[20:20] <ChogyDan> alicewand: -devs are for compiling, non -dev is for running
[20:20] <Slartibartfast13> or do I still need to execute that file called ol.x86-64.linux.bin, fdisk122 ?
[20:20] <trism> alicewand: you might only need the lib, since you don't seem to need the header, and just pass the full path to the libcuba.so.3 lib instead of -lcuba, the -dev package just creates a link to libcuba.so
[20:20] <fdisk122> Slartibartfast13: That should be the game I think
[20:21] <Slartibartfast13> Do I still need to execute that bin file, fdisk122 ?
[20:21] <alicewand> trism, what is the full path to libcuba.so.3?
[20:21] <alami> can any one help with xrldp Problem?
[20:21] <trism> alicewand: dpkg -L libcuba3:i386
[20:21] <fdisk122> Slartibartfast13: yes I believe so
[20:21] <metaphysician> Alert: Invalid archive signature: http://in.archive.ubuntu.com trusty-updates Release
[20:22] <metaphysician> BADSIG 40976EAF437D05B5 Ubuntu Archive Automatic Signing Key<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[20:22] <Slartibartfast13> ./ol.x86-64.linux.bin: error while loading shared libraries: libSDL_net-1.2.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[20:22] <Slartibartfast13> fdisk122
[20:23] <alicewand> trism, I have a lot /usr/lib /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/libcuba.so.3.0 /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/libcuba.so.3
[20:23] <alami> how can i remote desktop a ubuntu box using rdp Protocol
[20:23] <TingbadiuPiu> Im thinking of switching from xp to linux because the only game i play is counter strike 1.6 and it got native linux port now. However my computer has only single core cpu and geforce 6800GT. It runs cs at 75+fps constantly, in the cs shop page it shows that the linux version requires much highers specs- is that really true or did valve make a mistake with that?
[20:23] <TingbadiuPiu> Ps. if the linux version doesnt require more power, will the open source gpu driver suffice or do i need proprietary one?
[20:24] <trism> alicewand: gfortran -m32 -O -o out10 MBpart1ep0.f -L. -lmathlib -lkernlib -lf2c /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/libcuba.so.3;
[20:24] <ChogyDan> Slartibartfast13: have you installed libsdl?
[20:25] <Slartibartfast13> yes, his command worked, ChogyDan
[20:25] <alicewand> trism, I still get the same error: /usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-linux-gnu/4.8/../../../libf2c.so: undefined reference to `MAIN__' collect2: error: ld returned 1 exit status Z(
[20:25] <alicewand> ignore the Z( at the end
[20:25] <metaphysician> Never mind, transient mirror problem. Resolved on refresh.
[20:25] <fdisk122> Slartibartfast13: Someone wrote a shell script for that: http://www.other-life.com/forums/index.php?/topic/204-installing-the-linux-client-under-ubuntu/
[20:26] <fdisk122> Foxy1604: What were the results of apt-get upgrade? the dkpg --configure output as far as I can tell is actually somewhat normal
[20:27] <Foxy1604> fdisk122: after a reboot it say's that the pakkage plymouth needs to be reinstalled..
[20:28] <Foxy1604> fdisk122: (before it sad that it had unmet depencies)
[20:28] <RyouOtaku> !list
[20:29] <ChogyDan> Foxy1604: I like this command for cleanup:`sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop^`          the ^ makes it a tasksel kind of thing
[20:29] <fdisk122> Foxy1604: I think ChogyDan has the right command, otherwise you may have to do `sudo apt-get install --reinstall plymouth`
[20:29] <Slartibartfast13> fdisk, not sure if that willl work because I am running Kubuntu 14.04 live disk on a Pavilion PC that uses NVIDIA graphics
[20:30] <mjrosenb> so, nobody knows about what apt-get --reinstall does with a kernel?
[20:30] <fdisk122> Slartibartfast13: Maybe this is a crazy suggestion but how far out is it for you to partition the drive in your box and make a hard install of linux?
[20:30] <fdisk122> mjrosenb: nope I actually have no idea
[20:30] <ChogyDan> mjrosenb: probably reinstalls the files, re updates grub, rechecks dkms
[20:31] <Slartibartfast13> fdisk122, are you talking about creating a dual boot system or a virtual machine?
[20:31] <Foxy1604> fdisk122: ChogyDan kay!! but it still say's that plymouth needs to be reinstalled but the laptop cannot find the package.. xP
[20:31] <ChogyDan> Foxy1604: can you install pastebinit?
[20:32] <Foxy1604> ChogyDan: no sorry.. still the plymouth error
[20:32] <fdisk122> Slartibartfast13: A dualboot
[20:32] <Slartibartfast13> I already talked about both those options, and came to the conclusion   that I should keep Kubuntu and Windows XP running on separate PCs, fdisk122
[20:32] <Foxy1604> but i'l guess i call it a day.. ;)
[20:32] <ChogyDan> Foxy1604: can you photo the error again?  :)
[20:32] <Foxy1604> need to get up early :)
[20:32] <Foxy1604> bye bye
[20:32] <Foxy1604> ChogyDan: tomorrow ;)
[20:32] <fdisk122> Foxy1604: Good luck! Bye
[20:33] <ChogyDan> gl
[20:33] <fdisk122> Slartibartfast13: That shell script is probably the best bet either way. I'm a big fan of dualbooting though.
[20:34] <alami> no one here can help?
[20:34] <Slartibartfast13> those guys convinced me that dual booting requires maintenance and troubleshooting skills beyond my knowledge and expertise
[20:34] <fdisk122> Slartibartfast13: I'm using a school computer that I installed a secondary partition onto
[20:34] <fdisk122> Slartibartfast13: nobody else even KNOWS about the partition and it still works
[20:35] <fdisk122> Slartibartfast13: That's how low maintenance it is
[20:35] <Slartibartfast13> fdisk122:  What is the native OS running on that school PC?
[20:35] <fdisk122> Slartibartfast13: Windows 7
[20:35] <TJ-> Slartibartfast13: I think that was a false deduction on your part, based on BluesKaj and myself discussing various issues with dual-boot vs VM use for a Windows + Ubuntu installation.
[20:36] <Slartibartfast13> This PC has Windows XP installed on it
[20:36] <fdisk122> Slartibartfast13: The host OS wasn't affected at all except a little bit of drive space being eaten up by my partition. All their accounts, domain setup, networking etc. is not affected
[20:36] <Slartibartfast13> Yes, it was them, BluesKaj and TJ
[20:37] <trism> alicewand: is the MBpart1ep0.f file something you could pastebin or add to the askubuntu post?
[20:37] <fdisk122> Slartibartfast13: Windows XP is also based on NTFS and the partition will resize in the same way as Windows 7. The only reason not to do it is if you don't have enough extra disk space
[20:38] <mjrosenb> ok, well, my issue is that there are some post-hooks that are /supposed/ to be run, and are not being run.
[20:38] <TJ-> Slartibartfast13: Our discussion ws focused on whether, with a VM basis, Windows or Ubuntu should be the bare-metal OS. I was making the point that if the Windows programs intended to be used require hardware 3D acceleration, then Windows as the bare-metal OS and Linux in VMs would be better than Linux as bare-metal OS with Windows in VM
[20:38] <mjrosenb> and I suspect one of the post hooks is responsible for actually putting the new kernel in place.
[20:38] <mjrosenb> I guess I can try removing and re-installing the kernel?
[20:39] <Slartibartfast13> But I thought I heard someone say there would be problems if I try creating a duel boot system.  Someone warned me against it
[20:39] <alicewand> trism, here: http://pastebin.com/hgML3TXi  http://mbtools.hepforge.org/
[20:40] <Slartibartfast13> May be the only problem is that WIndows XP is no longer supported or secure.  Is that the only problem with my proposed duel boot system?
[20:40] <mjrosenb> Slartibartfast13: *dual, and it very much can work, just setting it up sometimes requires a bit of effort.
[20:41] <TJ-> Slartibartfast13: Dual boots once set up are fine - we were talking about how with Legacy BIOS systems multiple OSs have to 'fight' for who gets control of the MBR sector 0 of the boot disk - the preferred installation order is Windows first, then Linux+GRUB so GRUB then acts as boot-loader for both Linux and Windows.
[20:41] <mjrosenb> Slartibartfast13: unless you plan on running both operating systems at the same time, and see which one kills the other first.
[20:41] <TJ-> Slart_: If Windows is installed after Linux+GRUB, it replaces GRUB's MBR boot-strap code in sector 0 with the Windows boot-strap code, and then there is no way to boot Linux
[20:42] <MonkDAcez> then you use a live linux usb and reinstall grub
[20:42] <Slartibartfast13> Well, Windows XP is already installed on this PC
[20:42] <mjrosenb> Slartibartfast13: also, if you have certain antiviruses installed in windows, they check the mbr, and refuse to boot windows if it isn't exactly the one that they saw when they were installed.
[20:43]  * mjrosenb ran afoul that in 2005 or so, with mcafee (mcaffee?)
[20:43] <TJ-> Slartibartfast13: So, installing Ubuntu now should be fine - GRUB will become the system's boot-loader, and it will add Windows to the boot loader menu so you can choose between Ubuntu and Windows each time the system starts
[20:45] <Slartibartfast13> sounds like a great idea, TJ, but I doubt it will work that easily.  There will be troubleshooting required, I think
[20:45] <Slartibartfast13> even if I only stick to one OS at a time
[20:46] <TJ-> Slartibartfast13: No more than you've been doing so far this evening; and probably a lot less, verging on nil
[20:46] <Slartibartfast13> However, this whole dual boot system idea looks very attractive now
[20:47] <Slartibartfast13> You got a link for dual boot instructions for Windows XP and Kubuntu?
[20:48] <TJ-> Slartibartfast13: I tend to think any issues you have will be with the learning curve of adopting Linux/Ubuntu methodologies
[20:48] <TJ-> Slartibartfast13: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBoot
[20:48] <Slartibartfast13> thanks TJ
[20:49] <TJ-> Slartibartfast13: Don't be scared by the amount of info on that page; most of it is covering contingencies and non-standard installation steps
[20:50] <Slartibartfast13> Yeah, I get it, TJ
[20:52] <inglor_> Hello - anyone can help with a quite broken system produced from upgrading from 12.04 -> 14.04 ?
[20:52] <alicewand> trism, if you get the answer, please post it on http://askubuntu.com/questions/522526/how-to-get-gfortran-to-work-with-i386-i-have-undefined-reference-errors-how, thank you SO MUCH
[20:53] <inglor_> I am in a situation of not able to fix-broken packages, and not able to install new
[20:53] <alicewand> have a great rest of the day.
[20:54] <mjrosenb> inglor_: what broke?
[20:56] <inglor_> mjrosenb, the whole desktop. when I do a `apt-get check` I get a bunch of unmet dependencies
[20:57] <mjrosenb> inglor_: my usual response is apt-get install -f
[20:57] <inglor_> yeah tried that - here's the output from `apt-get check` http://pastebin.mozilla.org/6426304
[20:59] <inglor_> mjrosenb, and the output of `apt-get install -f` http://pastebin.mozilla.org/6426325
[21:00] <TJ-> inglor_: "gir1.2-glib-2.0 : Depends: libglib2.0-0 (>= 2.39.91) but 2.32.4-0ubuntu1 is installed" That is a 12.04 package going to be installed, not the 14.04 package
[21:00] <inglor_> TJ-, yeah so it seems like the upgrade is done half-way ?
[21:01] <inglor_> TJ-, Is there a way to fix it ?
[21:02] <inglor_> Also to mention that my source.list has only trusty references now
[21:03] <inglor_> and I disabled all the PPAs
[21:04] <Slartibartfast13> thanks for your help guys
[21:05] <TJ-> inglor_: I'm not entirely sure; I've got systems out of that state in the past but I can't say I could put my finger on precisely which action got the fix working
[21:05] <Slartibartfast13> so, everything in my HOme directory will get wiped when I reboot out of the live CD?
[21:07] <inglor_> Slartibartfast13, yes
[21:11] <hichris123> Grr, still having problems with '__NR_*' from compiling clang.
[21:20] <Moony22> WOW
[21:20] <Moony22> 1707 nicks
[21:21] <Slartibartfast13> thanks inglor
[21:28] <Pyro_Killer> hello everyone, I have installed ubuntu 14.04 minimalist on a desktop, and I want to reinstalll it, however when I boot from the USB key it runs me straight in to the grub of the disk and I can't seem to reinstall, the disk is disabled from boot in the bios
[21:28] <janusz__> Good evening dear professionals.
[21:30] <ikonia> Pyro_Killer: how many non-usb disks are in the system ?
[21:30] <Pyro_Killer> ikonia: one
[21:31] <ikonia> Pyro_Killer: so if there is only 1 disk in the system, that means that has to have the boot sector on
[21:31] <Pyro_Killer> wait, sod I might be back... MBR is written to the wrong bleeding disk i think
[21:31] <ikonia> Pyro_Killer: so either a.) you've not disabled it as a boot device in the bios b.) your bios is faulty
[21:31] <ikonia> wrong disk ?
[21:31] <ikonia> you said there is only 1 disk in it
[21:32] <Pyro_Killer> to my USB stick
[21:32] <ikonia> errr that has to have a valid boot sector on to boot the livecd from it
[21:32] <ikonia> if you can boot without the usb disk in - then you know the OS is booting from the disk
[21:33] <Pyro_Killer> it didn't
[21:33] <ikonia> it didn't boot ?
[21:34] <Pyro_Killer> it only booted when the usb was selected as 1st boot disk
[21:34] <ikonia> so you have your answer then
[21:34] <Pyro_Killer> I did a derp
[21:36] <Pyro_Killer> on another note, does anyone have a fairly simple way of getting 14.04 on to a wpa2 through CLI
[21:36] <Pyro_Killer> the installer has no problem connecting, but once I booted up it will not connect
[21:37] <ikonia> wpa_suplicant
[21:37] <ikonia> network manager command line
[21:37] <ikonia> why do you need the command line ?
[21:37] <ikonia> just use network manager as it's designed to be used
[21:37] <rberg_> man nmcli
[21:37] <ikonia> the dekstop application is excellent
[21:37] <Pyro_Killer> thank you rberg_
[21:37] <rberg_> somethineg like 'nmcli dev wifi con "Cafe Hotspot 1" password caffeine name "My cafe"'
[21:40] <Pyro_Killer> does it have an "autoconnect" where it starts up automatically and connects to whatever is available?
[21:40] <rberg_> yeah, not sure how you set that from the cli as I mostly use the gui
[21:41] <jhutchins> Pyro_Killer: If it's a static network you can put it in /etc/network/interfaces
[21:41] <jhutchins> Pyro_Killer: Are you thinking of a mode where it has multiple networks configured and joins whatever one becomes available?
[21:42] <rberg_> 'nmcli -f GENERAL,WIFI-PROPERTIES dev list iface wlan0' shows GENERAL.AUTOCONNECT: yes
[21:43] <mjrosenb> does anyone know why the kernel's postinst hooks would not be run?
[21:47] <Guest96743> hi
[21:50] <Donquichotte18> hi
[21:50] <robertbellarmine> Hello, I notice that there are Ubuntu Studio meta packages for lots of professional software for audio, video, image editing etc... There are also debian science based packages, now what I am wondering if there is something similar for programming to get all the packages for IDE and all the different programming language libraries
[21:52] <netlar> I am getting screen freeze when I try to use gnome do. I am on 14.04 Unity.
[21:52] <Guest96743> hı
[21:52] <netlar> Plus it is in my startup apps and does not load when I start Ubuntu.  Is that app buggy for Unity?
[21:53] <Guest96743> ı am using ubuntu on my computer ! ı am new user :) but ı dont know about ubuntu ! what do you advise to me ?
[21:55] <MonkeyDust> !manual | Guest96743 start here
[22:00] <netlar> Should I just reinstall gnome do, to fix it?
[22:00] <Ben64> netlar: what is gnome do
[22:01] <netlar> Ben64: http://do.cooperteam.net/download.shtml
[22:01] <netlar> Ben64: It is an app that lets you do quick searches
[22:02] <Ben64> if thats where you got it, you're on your own
[22:02] <netlar> Well that is there website, but loaded it from software center , no ppa
[22:03] <netlar> It is in the repository
[22:04] <Ben64> it may not work with unity, since it has "gnome" in the name, and unity isn't very gnome-y
[22:04] <netlar> Ben64: Yea, so I am not sure how that works, I thought most gnome stuff works with Unity
[22:05] <netlar> Ben64: I thought Unity was a fork of gnome, or am I mistaken
[22:11] <netlar> Well anyway I removed it
[22:16] <havarka> hi, why fresh installation of ubuntu has a 12GB??? what could that be?
[22:16] <k1l> havarka: what 12gb?
[22:16] <ObrienDave> 12GB of what?
[22:17] <havarka> i just installed ubuntu and it does need 12GB of hdd
[22:17] <ObrienDave> how much swap did you assign?
[22:18] <k1l> well. what do you expect? is this a minimal install?
[22:18] <havarka> i do not know, like 6 ? .. no its lubuntu
[22:19] <ObrienDave> ok, Lubuntu IS Ubuntu with a different DE. so, 6GB swap + 6GB install = 12 GB
[22:19] <JanC> no default Ubuntu install uses 6 GiB
[22:19] <havarka> but i do have a swap partition on separate partition
[22:20] <JanC> I think most are still under 3 GB
[22:20] <havarka> ok, so whats going on?
[22:21] <phill_> could anyone help with Preseed and kernel parameters for the ath9k - Boots fine after load, but not for preseed load... thanks
[22:21] <ObrienDave> havarka, probably nothing is going on
[22:22] <havarka> obrienDave, i dont know, but it seems to be too too much
[22:22] <k1l> havarka: so it did choose 12GB in the automatic installer and you are not fine with it?
[22:22] <ObrienDave> havarka, does it work as expected?
[22:22] <JanC> havarka: where do you see that 6 GB?
[22:23] <k1l> havarka: is it only / or /home included? and how much is it filled?
[22:23] <k1l> havarka: please give us full info on what the real issue is. as of just that statement i cant see what should be wrong there
[22:23] <havarka> no, i gave it 22 GB partition and 9.4GB is free
[22:23] <HikaruBG> hi guys
[22:24] <havarka> there is nothing in home, i keep personal stuff in different places
[22:24] <HikaruBG> how can I disable the mouse-wake-up function for Ubuntu 14.04 ?
[22:24] <k1l> havarka: so "df -h" does tell you what?
[22:24] <HikaruBG> I don't want the mouse to be able to wake up my laptop when the lid is closed
[22:25] <JanC> isn't ta a hardware thing?
[22:25] <JanC> HikaruBG: check your BIOS/UEFI config?
[22:25] <klys> mouse is not in bios configs
[22:26] <HikaruBG> the BIOS? doesn't sound right JanC
[22:26] <TJ-> HikaruBG: IS it a USB or PS/2 mouse?
[22:26] <havarka> http://paste.ubuntu.com/8313455/
[22:26] <JanC> USB HID wake-up
[22:26] <HikaruBG> USB Bluetooth mouse HP
[22:26] <HikaruBG> TJ-, USB Bluetooth mouse HP
[22:26] <TJ-> HikaruBG: There'll be a firmware setting to enable/disable various wake-ups, including by USB device, in the ACPI/power management section of the firmware setup
[22:28] <HikaruBG> TJ-, is the firmware setup accessible from the regular Ubuntu System Settings?
[22:28] <HikaruBG> I looked there and didn't see mouse wakeup option
[22:28] <ObrienDave> havarka, something isn't right. the numbers under sda6 don't add up to 22GB
[22:29] <waykool99> anybody notice a suspicious Folder names with about 10 numbers under /home/myname, you can't open it or Delete it as root. but you can re-name the folder?
[22:29] <havarka> sry guys, i had two iso`s in bin :/
[22:29] <ObrienDave> havarka, that will do it LOL
[22:29] <havarka> yeah
[22:29] <havarka> at least i learned new cmd
[22:30] <ObrienDave> there's always a plus
[22:30] <Ben64> waykool99: nope
[22:30] <TJ-> HikaruBG: No, firmware setup is only accessible at boot-time just after power-on, usually there's a key such as F2 to press to enter setup
[22:30] <waykool99> ClamAV finds nothing wrong with it but I do. when you can't open contents as 'root', raises red flags.
[22:31] <HikaruBG> Oh, that ...  I see ... let me take a look - will be right back
[22:31] <waykool99> and can't delete the folder
[22:31] <Ben64> waykool99: well pastebin some info
[22:31] <mattxtn> waykool are they encrypted /home files?
[22:31] <ObrienDave> a screenshot would help
[22:32] <waykool99> no idea. hourglass freezes forever trying to open that folder.
[22:32] <waykool99> BUT you can re-name it.
[22:32] <mattxtn> pastebin or screenshot what you are seeing
[22:32] <Ben64> stop giving us stories and post some actual information
[22:32] <TJ-> waykool99: Use the terminal, not GUI programs.
[22:33] <waykool99> TJ, good idea. i'll try that now.
[22:33] <TJ-> Sounds to me like  a corrupted file-system with an inode loop
[22:33] <Ben64> waykool99: if you havent been using terminal, how did you try to delete or open it using root
[22:34] <dw1> anyone know how to make perfectly round circles with the Shutter ellipse tool?
[22:34] <ObrienDave> dw1 keep the drag line at 45 degrees
[22:35] <HikaruBG> TJ-, no settings for the USB mouse in the firmware settings.
[22:35] <dw1> ObrienDave: yeah but its not obvious theres no display for it :/
[22:35] <HikaruBG> any ideas how to configure this from Ubuntu?
[22:36] <TJ-> HikaruBG: It won't mention mouse, it'll be something like "Wake on USB"
[22:36] <waykool99> using sudo /home/me/HighlySuspciousFolder# dir, it freezes in Terminal.\
[22:36] <mykey> Im having issues with my disc drive...can anyone help?
[22:36] <waykool99> i rename the foldeer
[22:36] <HikaruBG> TJ-, I see - it only has Boot from external devices available. Really offers very limited options.
[22:36] <ObrienDave> dw1, eyeball is close enough. screen pixels are usually a 1:1 ratio. close enough to eyeball
[22:37] <Ben64> waykool99: if you havent been using terminal, how did you try to delete or open it using root
[22:37] <dw1> ObrienDave: .. they should have a feature where you hold Ctrl or somethin'. guess ill find the suggestion box
[22:37] <mykey> anyone?
[22:37] <Ben64> waykool99: and you can't sudo a folder... pastebin stuff like "ls"
[22:37] <Ben64> mykey: you'll need to ask a question before receiving assistance
[22:37] <ObrienDave> !patience | mykey
[22:38] <ObrienDave> !ask | mykey
[22:38] <mykey> cd/dvd drive wont mount ofter being ejected...
[22:38] <Ben64> waykool99: wow, don't login as root in gui!
[22:38] <mykey> how can I make sure this doesn't keep happening
[22:38] <dw1> ObrienDave: actually Ctrl holds the current dimensions, so i could eyeball it small and then expand ....
[22:38] <TJ-> HikaruBG: Weird. You might be able to control it via the sysfs, via the usb controller/port's "power/wakeup" node
[22:38] <HikaruBG> OK - let me check that
[22:38] <ObrienDave> dw1, there ya go :)
[22:39] <Ben64> !pm | waykool99
[22:39] <mykey> Ive reinstalled because I gave up on it but I did it again...all I did was click on the eject button and now nothing mounts
[22:39] <TJ-> HikaruBG: If you can identify which device the mouse is in sysfs, then "echo disabled > /sys/devices/...../power/wakeup" should stop it waking up
[22:40] <mykey> usb does but my disc drive is usless now
[22:40] <Ben64> waykool99: seriously, STOP pm'ing me
[22:40] <ObrienDave> mykey, are ther similar problems under a different OS?
[22:41] <Pyro_Killer> I installed the MBR to the wrong disk, how does one write the MBR to the other disk?
[22:41] <HikaruBG> Thanks TJ-
[22:41] <smw> Pyro_Killer, grub-install
[22:41] <TJ-> HikaruBG: Do you see the device name in the output of this command "cat /sys/class/input/mouse?/device/name" ?
[22:42] <mykey> Not that I recall...
[22:42] <TJ-> HikaruBG: If you do, which line 1st, 2nd, 3rd ...?
[22:42] <mykey> just wonder why if i eject a cd/dvd it wont mount the entire drive again
[22:43] <Ben64> mykey: insert a new cd/dvd you'd like to mount, then pastebin the output of "dmesg"
[22:43] <HikaruBG> yep, TJ- mouse3 shows: "HP HP Link-5 micro dongle"
[22:43] <mykey> will do one sec
[22:44] <TJ-> HikaruBG: OK ...
[22:44] <mykey> um that is alot
[22:44] <ObrienDave> mykey, check under "removable drives and media" there is an auto-mount setting there
[22:45] <TJ-> HikaruBG: I'm looking for the easy way to link the mouse to the USB port :)
[22:46] <mykey> Cant locate "removable drives and media"...how do I find it?
[22:47] <ObrienDave> mykey, i'm in Xubuntu. your settings might be different
[22:48] <HikaruBG> OK thanks guys - this is irrelevant :) will deal with it later. Thanks TJ-
[22:49] <ObrienDave> waykool99, are you going to pastebin some stuff for us to look at?
[22:49] <ObrienDave> or continue to irritate people trying to help you for free?
[22:50] <mykey> 00 mBm) [  297.557139] cfg80211:   (5735000 KHz - 5835000 KHz @ 40000 KHz), (300 mBi, 2000 mBm) [  297.559603] wlan0: RX AssocResp from 30:46:9a:a1:53:9a (capab=0x411 status=0 aid=4) [  297.565397] wlan0: associated [  603.424129] usb 1-3: new high-speed USB device number 2 using ehci-pci [  603.557549] usb 1-3: New USB device found, idVendor=1058, idProduct=071a [  603.557562] usb 1-3: New USB device strings: Mfr=1, Product=2, SerialN
[22:50] <ObrienDave> !pastebin | mykey
[22:52] <anivair> Hi there, anyone know anything about NoMachine?  I'm in a bind here.
[22:52] <anivair> I've been using nxclient for a while. Someone was kind enough to install on the wrong architecture and NoMachine won't connect to my nx server
[22:54] <ObrienDave> anivair, and this relates to Ubuntu support how?
[22:54] <anivair> Sorry, the client an sever are both ubuntu machines. We run an ubuntu shop here mostly.
[22:54] <anivair> I should have specified
[22:55] <anivair> client is 14.04. server is 13.04
[22:55] <ubuntu_> hi
[22:56] <ubuntu_> hi
[23:00] <daftykins> anivair: then you know 13.04 is EOL? :)
[23:00] <anivair> I do.  Sadly, I don't have any control over that but just yet.
[23:00] <anivair> I'm just trying to coble what they have here for one user
[23:00] <anivair> the nx server still works fine
[23:01] <anivair> an older nxclient connects fine as well
[23:01] <anivair> but nomachine does not
[23:01] <daftykins> !enter
[23:01] <daftykins> ugh more deletions
[23:01] <anivair> odly
[23:01] <anivair> (oddly, even)
[23:06] <TJ-> HikaruBG: this should work:  "  MOUSE=mouse3; DP="/sys$(udevadm info --query path --path /class/input/$MOUSE)"; while [ -n "$DP" ]; echo $DP; do W="$DP/power/wakeup"; if [ -f $W ]; then echo $W; echo disabled | sudo tee $W; break; fi; DP=${DP%/*}; done  "
[23:09] <esperantz> tox
[23:18] <Bobbo__> Hi. Could someone help me get ubuntu running on a laptop please? It seems to work from a live USB, but then won't boot after the first time. =/
[23:18] <jiohdi> it wont boot from the usb after the first time?
[23:19] <Bobbo__> No, it won't boot from the hard drive from the first time.
[23:19] <ObrienDave> dual boot?
[23:19] <Bobbo__> Like, uhh. I do the installation, I click to reboot now and it boots fine. But if I restart afterwards it won't.
[23:19] <Bobbo__> No
[23:20] <ObrienDave> what do you get?
[23:20] <jiohdi> black screen? does alt-ctrl-f1 give you a terminal?
[23:20] <Bobbo__> It falls through to trying to boot from the network device.
[23:21] <Bobbo__> Like, it doesn't even know the hard drive has bootable content on it.
[23:21] <rellis> Anyone know of a way in sh (dash) to pass this string as a single argument to a program? JAVA_OPTS="${JAVA_OPTS} -XX:OnError=\"kill\ -9\ %p\""
[23:21] <TJ-> Bobbo__: Between the time it boots correctly and the time it doesn't, do you remove any USB flash storage device?
[23:21] <ObrienDave> check your BIOS settings
[23:21] <rellis> the spaces in the kill command make it end up as multiple arguments when it should be one
[23:22] <Bobbo__> TJ-: No. I removed the flash drive during the first shutdown.
[23:22] <ObrienDave> it can't parse nested quotes
[23:22] <Bobbo__> ObrienDave: Anything more specific, I've already been in there... But it's a Toshiba Satellite S50 and there isn't much I can do. =/
[23:22] <jiohdi> Bobbo__, what happens on the screen when you boot?
[23:23] <TJ-> Bobbo__: Does the system have UEFI firmware?
[23:23] <ObrienDave> Bobbo__, look at the boot order. CD/DVD 1st, USB drive 2nd, Internal drive 3rd.
[23:24] <Bobbo__> jiohdi: Toshiba splash, some black and then network boot stuff
[23:24] <Metaliinuxite> hey guys
[23:24] <Bobbo__> TJ-: Yes
[23:25] <Bobbo__> ObrienDave: It's in USB, CD, HDD, network iirc.
[23:25] <Bobbo__> Possibly CD and USB other way around, either way it's definitely in the right order to boot from HDD (I ain't that foolish)
[23:25] <TJ-> Bobbo__: Did it install in UEFI mode then try to boot in CSM legacy mode, or visa-versa?
[23:25] <Bobbo__> What's CSM?
[23:25] <Metaliinuxite> so i deleted my partition table from gparted (all ntfs) and i boot up Ubuntu Live and all the drives are listed properly!! now how do i write that partition table to my drive?
[23:25] <Bobbo__> (Probably not)
[23:26] <Metaliinuxite> i tried gpart but it just hangs at the "begin scan" part
[23:26] <Metaliinuxite> and I don't like testdisk because a reboot is necessary
[23:26] <TJ-> Bobbo__: Compatibility Support Module, the part of UEFI that handles old-style (Legacy) BIOS boot
[23:27] <Metaliinuxite> Ubuntu figured the parition table perfectly, but how do I make it permanent?
[23:27] <Metaliinuxite> *partition
[23:28] <Bobbo__> Just checked bios; secure boot is disabled, boot mode is UEFI.
[23:28] <Guest32543> hi i am using recordmy desktop, but i cant record my sound from my usb mic
[23:28] <TJ-> Bobbo__: OK, and is there an "Ubuntu" entry in the UEFI boot menu? If not, it's been installed in CSM legacy mode
[23:29] <havarka> Metaliinuxite, what do you mean did you installed it? or You on LiveCD?
[23:29] <Bobbo__> Um, what boot menu?
[23:29] <Metaliinuxite> havarka: live cd
[23:30] <Bobbo__> TJ-: Maybe I should of clarified, I don't even get to grub. It's like the bios thinks the HDD isn't bootable.
[23:34] <TJ-> Bobbo__: That is what I'd expect. If Ubuntu was installed in Legacy mode (meaning the installer was started in that mode), then if the system doesn't have CSM enabled it won't try to boot via an MBR boot-strap. The opposite is also possible: if Ubuntu was installed in EFI mode and added itself to the UEFI boot manager (through the efibootmgr program), then it is possible the UEFI firmware has 'lost' the entry due to some firmware bug.
[23:34] <TJ-> Bobbo__: Boot the Live ISO again, then use "Try Ubuntu" and we can investigate
[23:35] <TJ-> Bobbo__: This illustration might help you understand better: https://iam.tj/kb/pc/boot/
[23:39] <Bobbo__> TJ-: That looks freaking complicated, heh.
[23:39] <Bobbo__> okay. So I'm in the try ubuntu thingy.
[23:40] <TJ-> Bobbo__: but it shows how minor differences can cause problems, and roughly where they're caused based on how far the system gets
[23:41] <Bobbo__> Okay; so where do we start investigating? L3
[23:42] <TJ-> Bobbo__: First, start a terminal (Ctrl+Alt+T) so we can type commands in the shell
[23:43] <jponc_> hi guys
[23:43] <Bobbo__> TJ-: I'm not new to linux, just this laptop. I'm reasonably command savvy, btw
[23:43] <TJ-> Bobbo__: Yay! saves me some typing :)
[23:43] <Bobbo__> :)
[23:43] <TJ-> Bobbo__: "ls /sys/firmware/" ... is there a "efi/" directory?
[23:43] <HikaruBG> Well well... :) I need now to setup a secured file server
[23:43] <Bobbo__> yes
[23:44] <HikaruBG> on Ubuntu
[23:44] <TJ-> Bobbo__: In that directory are there others, including efivars/ ?
[23:44] <Bobbo__> TJ-: Yes
[23:44] <TJ-> Bobbo__: That tells us the system booted in UEFI mode.
[23:44] <jponc_> Any new news regarding ubuntu? :D
[23:44] <TJ-> Bobbo__: That could be useful later once we look at the installed system, in terms of what we need to do to repair it
[23:47] <TJ-> Bobbo__: OK, now lets find out what block devices there are: "pastebinit < <(sudo lsblk)"
[23:47] <Bobbo__> dling pastebinit first.
[23:48] <TJ-> Bobbo__: OK :)
[23:49] <Bobbo__> http://paste.ubuntu.com/8313984
[23:50] <TJ-> Bobbo__: OK, so sda will be the installed system. "pastebinit < <(sudo parted /dev/sda unit s print)"
[23:51] <Bobbo__> http://paste.ubuntu.com/8314003
[23:52] <TJ-> Bobbo__: OK, It's GPT and partition #1 is FAT32 and is about 512MB so that'll be an EFI System Partition (ESP)
[23:53] <TJ-> Bobbo__: "sudo mkdir /target; sudo mount /dev/sda2 /target" then check that looks like the root file-system with "ls /target"
[23:53] <Bobbo__> TJ-: Ya, that's the root fs
[23:54] <TJ-> Bobbo__: OK, check that "ls /target/boot/" has an "efi/" directory (that is currently empty)
[23:54] <Bobbo__> Aye, it's empty
[23:54] <TJ-> Bobbo__: Now lets check the ESP has what we expect in it: "sudo mount /dev/sda1 /target/boot/efi"
[23:55] <TJ-> Bobbo__: Then "pastebinit < <(find /target/boot/efi)"
[23:56] <oniMaker> I seem to be unable to instal some common packages: E: Unable to locate package php5-curl
[23:56] <Bobbo__> http://paste.ubuntu.com/8314038 -- I should clarify the extra stuff is from instructions I followed here: http://linuxontoshiba.blogspot.se/2014/05/getting-ubuntu-1404-to-boot-from.html
[23:56] <root___> hi
[23:57] <juniour> hi every one how can i get two diffent hash of same string???
[23:57] <eeee> juniour: change the salt
[23:57] <juniour> i am not using anysalt
[23:58] <juniour> eee echo "hello" |md5sum give me a hash but i check online on website, it give me different hash
[23:58] <TJ-> Bobbo__: Let's ask the motherboard's firmware what it has in its boot menu "pastebinit < <(sudo efibootmgr --verbose)"
[23:59] <Bobbo__> http://paste.ubuntu.com/8314069