[00:38] <johanbr> hi... on the first suspend after a cold boot, my laptop suspends immediately after the hard drive is parked
[00:39] <johanbr> but on subsequent suspends, there's about a five-second delay after the hard drive is parked... does anyone know why this might happen?
[00:43]  * manjo out
[07:48] <amitk> morning
[07:48] <smb> morning
[07:49] <amitk> hey smb
[07:56] <ikepanhc> good morning .eu :)
[07:56] <cooloney> morning guys
[07:57] <cooloney> amitk: one short question for you, need i use external powered usb hub for beagleboard, right?
[07:57] <amitk> cooloney: yes
[07:57] <amitk> hi ikepanhc
[07:58] <cooloney> i got an external powered usb hub to my BB's usb host port.
[07:58] <cooloney> amitk: but doesn't work. so weird.
[08:00] <amitk> cooloney: which port did you connect it to? the ehci (standard) port or the OTG port?
[08:01] <cooloney> amitk: the standard EHCI port
[08:01] <amitk> cooloney: nothing is detected?
[08:02] <cooloney> amitk: i am trying to install the system from SD card, so no chance to get the dmesg
[08:02] <cooloney> amitk: but i can change the bootargs to see from serial maybe
[08:03] <amitk> cooloney: ohh, you have C3 right?
[08:03]  * ikepanhc updating maverick and praying
[08:03] <cooloney> amitk: yeah C3
[08:04] <amitk> cooloney: Hardware issue on rev C3 - the EHCI port on some rev C3 boards is unstable and will disconnect hubs/devices. Symptoms are: devices are disconnected from the port and cannot be reconnected without a reboot. It appears the shared 1.8V rail between the OMAP3530 and the power chip was getting noisy. Suggested solution (works on many boards) is adding a 22 uF 0805 package SMT capacitor atop the existing cap on C97. If SMT parts
[08:05] <amitk> cooloney: http://elinux.org/BeagleBoard#EHCI
[08:05] <amitk> cooloney: time to get out the soldering iron ;)
[08:05] <jk-> heh
[08:08] <cooloney> amitk: oh yeah. i need 22uF 0805
[08:14]  * ikepanhc updated, looks great :)
[08:15] <amitk> ikepanhc: you updated yourself?
[08:16] <ikepanhc> amitk: ahah, update my machine, not my brain :)
[13:00]  * apw has to shift locations
[14:08] <tgardner> apw, have you run into 'Cannot make directory '/var/run/screen': Permission denied' ? Seems that the /var/run/screen directory isn't correctly created at boot time.
[14:09] <apw> tgardner, no ... is that something to do with you using screen as your default on login ?
[14:09] <tgardner> apw, nope, just running jobs on remote servers. I rebooted tangerine this AM and found screen no longer worked.
[14:10] <tgardner> there must be a service startup rule somewhere.
[14:10] <apw> ahh ... not a bit screen user so i'd probabally not hit it
[14:10] <tgardner> apw, really? I thought everyone was seduced by the wonders of screen
[14:10] <apw> tgardner, i am a little supprised it uses /var/run/ ...
[14:11] <apw> tgardner, i use it on zinc, thats about it
[14:11] <apw> /etc/init/screen-cleanup.conf <-- tgardner
[14:12] <JFo> I <3 screen
[14:12] <apw> JFo, yeah its great other than not being able to access scrollback, so i use it for things where i have to, otherwise i tend to run and log locally to a file and tail the file remotely style
[14:13] <JFo> same here
[14:13] <JFo> I tail from a non-screened term
[14:13] <apw> don't get me wrong it rocks for those where you need it
[14:13] <JFo> oh yes
[14:13] <apw> tgardner, so thats an upstart job ... so ask upstart if its started
[14:13] <tgardner> All of my build scripts log locally so I don't have to deal with the lack of scroll back
[14:13] <JFo> especially for things that run forever and would suffer from unexpected failure
[14:14] <tgardner> apw, I just ran it by hand. I'd actually already tries it with 'restart', but its not well coded and did nothing
[14:14] <apw> tgardner, hrm ... sounds like a bug ... cirtianlyu it exists on my maverick boxes ok
[14:14] <tgardner> now I can't remember what the hell I started out to do
[14:15] <apw> tgardner, now that i can relate to
[14:15] <tgardner> oh, updating maverick schroots
[14:19] <tgardner> apw, ok grubmaster, tell me why emerald boots 2.6.32-21.32-server ? /boot/grub/grub.cfg looks right. nothing in /etc/default/grub, etc
[14:20] <apw> tgardner, looking#
[14:21] <smb> saved_entry?
[14:21] <tgardner> apw, I think it should be booting linux-image-2.6.35-14-server
[14:21] <apw> tgardner, the config does say 'default = 10' and if i count from 0 that is the 32-21 kernel
[14:22] <apw> so i think its doing what the config says ... now why thats not default=0 i am not sure
[14:22] <tgardner> huh
[14:22] <apw> on my other machines the default = 0
[14:22] <tgardner> apw, well then, I shall set the default to 0
[14:23] <apw> tgardner, it seems that the default is set in /etc/default/grub and to 10
[14:23] <apw> which to my mind is oddness indeed
[14:24] <smb> apw, Maybe someone tried to set a timeout and hit the wrong line...
[14:26] <apw> smb, or maybe they wanted to move to an older one, and it tracks it somehow
[14:26] <tgardner> apw, I'm betting smb is right, someone (perhaps pgraner) wanted a grub menu timeout
[14:26] <smb> Could be, too. I am also not sure how the save default feature would work
[14:28] <apw> yeah something mad
[14:28] <pgraner> tgardner, yea that way me, when emerald was wedged I wanted to throw up grub for 10 sec
[14:28] <pgraner> tgardner, looks like I got the wrong entry
[14:28] <pgraner> tgardner, just flip it back
[14:28] <tgardner> pgraner, you used the wrong option
[14:29] <apw> and until you get to 10 in the menu it suddenly means something
[14:29] <pgraner> tgardner, no duh
[14:29] <tgardner> pgraner, well, she's bouncing.
[14:29] <pgraner> tgardner, thanks
[14:31] <tgardner> pgraner, ah, much better
[14:33] <apw> lag its as likely my end
[14:33] <tgardner> apw, you're_rally_ quiet
[14:33] <tgardner> really*
[14:34] <apw> tgardner, thanks
[14:52] <lag> apw: Connection failed.  Now logging in..." then nothing
[14:54] <lag> How does bip know which channels to save logs for?
[14:54] <apw> heh proper handy
[14:54] <apw> lag, all open ones i think
[14:55] <apw> it tracks where you open in your client
[14:55] <lag> Arh okay
[14:55] <lag> So you don't need to tell it
[14:55] <lag> That's good at least
[14:56] <apw> lag, i think you can give it a list to open by default when it reconnects, otherwise it tracks (or in addition) it tracks places your clients ask for
[14:56] <apw> note that more than one client can be connected
[14:57] <lag> apw: I can't even get one to connect :(
[15:03] <apw> lag, there must be a simpletons quide out there somwhere
[15:04] <lag> Seemingly not
[15:05] <lag> apw: http://www.mindforge.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=70&Itemid=45
[15:05] <lag> I've done all this
[15:13] <lag> apw: Sorted!
[15:26] <ikepanhc> JFo: I am interested in bug 612454, shall I change the status myself or you perfer you triage first?
[15:26] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 612454 in linux (Ubuntu) "[Packard-Bell EasyNote] asus_laptop problem: wifi (affects: 1) (heat: 3411)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/612454
[15:27] <JFo> ikepanhc, I am fine with you changing it as you see fit
[15:27] <JFo> :)
[15:27] <ikepanhc> JFo: thanks :)
[15:27] <JFo> no problem. you guys are the only ones I don't second guess if I can help it :)
[15:32] <ikepanhc> JFo: change done, just want to make sure I wont let you hard to track those bugs
[15:32] <JFo> no, it isn't a problem
[15:32] <ikepanhc> :)
[16:20] <manjo> drm-intel-next kernels (2.6.35-997 and 999) also give me a blank screen on boot under lucid,
[16:21] <manjo> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/561802
[16:21] <ubot2> Ubuntu bug 561802 in linux (Ubuntu Lucid) (and 1 other project) "[lucid] [i915] blank screen on Latitude E6410 (affects: 27) (heat: 166)" [Medium,In progress]
[16:32] <smb> bjf, git://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/smb/linux-2.6.32.y-drm33.z.git
[16:32] <bjf> smb ack
[16:33] <ogasawara> apw: bug 589439 is linked to our config blueprint and I've reviewed it and commented on the config options we have changed as requested.  There is no way I'm going to change the whole lot of them without proper justification.
[16:33] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 589439 in linux (Ubuntu) "configuration gotchas with Maverick 2.6.35 kernel... (affects: 1) (heat: 63)" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/589439
[16:33] <ogasawara> apw: is there a way for the bug to remain open and linked to the blueprint but not show up as an open action item on our release page?
[16:34] <ogasawara> apw: maybe if I set the milestone to ubuntu-later?
[16:37] <apw> ogasawara, i don't think there is right now, if you put it ubuntu-later i think it'll just show up
[16:37] <ogasawara> apw: maybe I'll unlink it from the blueprint and then write it down as an actual work item that I can mark DONE
[16:38] <apw> ogasawara, yeah i've been known to do that too ... its not ideal
[16:38]  * apw waves to balbir
[16:40] <apw> ogasawara, essentially you are saying that the work item is smaller than the bug open life, so actually a manual work item is appropriate in that context
[16:40]  * balbir waves back
[16:40] <manjo> apw, is this correct ? git checkout lucid debian
[16:41] <manjo> apw, is this correct ? git checkout lucid debian.master
[16:41] <apw> ogasawara, and on the original point ... you are sane to not change the ones which you don't need
[16:41] <apw> manjo, if lucid is your remote then likely its
[16:41] <manjo> apw, yes.. thanks
[16:41] <apw> git checkout lucid/master debian debian.master
[16:43] <bjf> smn, when reviewing your new combined tree we are reviewing everything after <IP_ADDRESS>.6, correct?
[16:43] <manjo> git remote add lucid1 git://kernel.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ubuntu-lucid.git
[16:43] <manjo> manjo@tangerine:~/linux-2.6.34.y.561802$ git checkout lucid1/master debian debian.master
[16:43] <manjo> error: pathspec 'lucid1/master' did not match any file(s) known to git.
[16:43] <manjo> error: pathspec 'debian' did not match any file(s) known to git.
[16:43] <manjo> error: pathspec 'debian.master' did not match any file(s) known to git.
[16:43] <manjo> manjo@tangerine:~/linux-2.6.34.y.561802$
[16:44] <manjo> apw, ^^
[16:44] <bjf> smb, when reviewing your new combined tree we are reviewing everything after <IP_ADDRESS>.6, correct?
[16:44] <apw> manjo, did you fetch your remote ?
[16:44] <smb> bjf, yes correct
[16:45] <manjo> no :)
[16:45] <apw> spanner
[16:48]  * manjo is wondering if stefan is building on tangerine :)
[16:50] <apw> manjo, he has a tendancy to make the load hit about 90 ... most annoying
[16:51] <manjo> apw, absolutely!
[16:51] <tgardner> manjo,  16:51:39 up  3:01,  6 users,  load average: 0.58, 0.58, 1.51
[16:52] <manjo> tgardner, hmm... so my connection has a lag possibly ... should have done top before blaming smb :)
[16:53] <smb> I am innocent this time
[17:03] <manjo> apw, do I have to do something special for FAIL: value CONFIG_DEFAULT_SECURITY_APPARMOR Y ??
[17:03] <apw> manjo, zap the enforce configuration
[17:15] <JFo> I really wish chromium would quit crapping its pants
[17:15] <vanhoof> JFo: seems to be worse lately
[17:15] <JFo> it does indeed
[17:15] <JFo> nigh unusable on my netbook
[17:15] <JFo> I just opened it and it was up all of 10 seconds
[17:16] <JFo> segfaulting it seems
[17:16] <JFo> chromium-browse[29554]: segfault at 0 ip 08619d0f sp bfde07a0 error 4 in chromium-browser[8048000+2214000]
[17:16] <JFo> looks like it has been reported to google though
[17:17] <JFo> did you and I ever come to some satisfactory decision on the QA bugs vanhoof?
[17:17] <JFo> my brain is still fuzzy from sickness
[17:17] <pgraner> JFo: is that what they are calling hangovers these days?
[17:17] <JFo> heh
[17:17] <JFo> nope, but I wonder if that would help at all
[17:18] <JFo> not the hangover, more the drinking
[17:18] <JFo> :-)
[17:18] <JFo> pgraner, someone has requested we re-enact the dogs playing poker next time we do photos
[17:18] <JFo> I'm up for it
[17:18] <lag_> Any ideas: http://paste.ubuntu.com/473148/
[17:19] <lag_> apw: --^
[17:19] <apw> lag_, nope
[17:19] <lag_> apw: :(
[17:20] <vanhoof> JFo: we did, do you have some?
[17:20] <vanhoof> JFo: from you -> project
[17:20] <lag_> apw: It's weird how the complicated one works and the "just works", "open" one doesn't!
[17:20] <JFo> no, just trying to follow up on our chat and my notes
[17:20] <JFo> ah yes, I remember that now
[17:20] <vanhoof> ultimately, if QA can make that call, then from QA -> project
[17:20] <apw> lag_, perhaps some config options are leaking over
[17:20] <JFo> sweet
[17:20] <vanhoof> JFo: getting my bits in place, should have it setup soon
[17:20] <JFo> just wanted to make sure my notes were complete
[17:20] <JFo> ok cool
[17:21] <JFo> I'll do some quick and dirty write up for my notes then
[17:21] <JFo> since I remember now
[17:21] <JFo> thanks for the reminder vanhoof :)
[17:21] <lag_> apw: What's to leak?
[17:21] <lag_> network {
[17:21] <lag_>         name = "freenode";
[17:21] <lag_>         server { host = "irc.freenode.net"; port = 8001; };
[17:21] <lag_> };
[17:22] <vanhoof> JFo: cool
[17:24] <apw> 8001 ?
[17:25] <apw> lag_, ^^
[17:25] <manjo> lag_, server { host = "irc.freenode.net"; port = 8001; };
[17:25] <lag_> yep
[17:25] <manjo> that is what I have too
[17:25] <lag_> It' what I've always used
[17:25] <lag_> So shouldn't be an issue
[17:25] <lag_> It's so annoying!
[17:25] <manjo> lag_, you are setting up bip ?
[17:26] <lag_> I've been through the conf 100 times
[17:26] <lag_> manjo: Yes
[17:26] <apw> lag_, so i have 6667 in mine
[17:26] <lag_> I've tried that too
[17:27] <manjo> lag_, I can send you mine try to compate ?
[17:27] <lag_> pgraner is email me his
[17:27] <JFo> sconklin, I just blew soda all over my laptop
[17:27] <JFo> thx
[17:27] <JFo> :)
[17:28] <vanhoof> lag_: try irc.us.freenode.net
[17:28] <apw> lag_, perhaps you could put your config as is somewhere
[17:29] <vanhoof> lag_: see if its a problem where you're being sent to
[17:29] <lag_> vanhoof: Sure - 1 mo
[17:30] <manjo> apw, zapping enfore causes other errors ...
[17:31] <manjo> apw check-config: /home/manjo/linux-2.6.34.y.561802/debian.master/config/enforce: open failed -- No such file or directory -- aborting
[17:31] <apw> zap the contents not the file
[17:31] <manjo> fuck!
[17:31] <apw> ie make the file empty
[17:31] <manjo> :)
[17:32] <JFo> heh
[17:43] <manjo> apw, finally getting it to build
[17:43] <manjo> apw, thanks beer++
[17:43] <smb> error overflow
[17:51] <apw> smb, no asuch thing, its a 256 bit integer
[17:53] <smb> apw, That is, if he gives you enough beer tokens you end up to give him beers
[17:53] <smb> Thats bad
[17:55] <JFo> oh no, I took the beer++ as multiple beers rather than coding addition
[17:55] <JFo> :)
[17:58] <cking> is beer a unsigned int or signed int? I'd hate it to wrap to -ve
[17:58] <JFo> cking, it is a Long
[17:58] <cking> unsigned or signed long?
[17:58] <JFo> either way, it is big ;)
[17:59] <cking> a big negative is bad for the beer gut
[17:59] <JFo> probably unsigned
[17:59] <JFo> given memory during its use
[18:01] <cking> struct lame_beer { unsigned int beer:1; };  knowing my luck
[18:11] <apw> cking, thats all you can take anyhow
[18:11] <cking> yep
[18:25] <manjo> apw, processor LNXCPU:00: registered as cooling_device0
[18:26] <JFo> cking, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WESUiQ07ibY
[18:27] <cking> JFo, that's an old TV ad
[18:27] <JFo> indeed
[18:37] <rsalveti> guys, I have some patches I got from TI in my tree and I wanted to publish it somewhere, and kernel.ubuntu.com seems to be the best place to go
[18:38] <rsalveti> is there an easy way to get access to it?
[18:38] <rsalveti> otherwise I can just push it elsewhere
[18:51] <JFo> <-lunch
[18:57] <manjo> rsalveti, you could send a request pull to the mailing list
[18:58]  * tgardner lunches
[18:58]  * manjo getting lunch will be back soon
[18:58] <rsalveti> manjo: I know, but is not only the kernel team would take use from it, it's useful to send to the TI guys also, and our team if anybody wants to test them
[18:59] <rsalveti> it's just a working branch, before sending to review and etc
[19:02] <manjo> rsalveti, you could also try asking in #linaro
[19:02] <manjo> I assume they might be the right people to deal with it
[19:05] <rsalveti> well, it's just a bunch of patches for arm
[19:06] <ogasawara> rsalveti: I believe tgardner (who just went to lunch) is the gatekeeper for adding accounts to kernel.ubuntu.com/git
[19:09] <rsalveti>  ogasawara: thanks, will try to ping him later then :-)
[19:28] <vanhoof> apw: ping
[19:28] <apw> pong
[19:28] <apw> vanhoof, ^^
[19:31] <vanhoof> apw: did that bug match what you were after?
[19:32] <apw> vanhoof, yeah i think so
[19:34] <vanhoof> apw: what grapevine did this come through :)
[20:03]  * apw calls it a day
[20:07] <cking> it's a wrap
[20:19] <JFo> pgraner, http://failblog.files.wordpress.com/2010/08/098d342c-a365-44f7-a35f-aa398398404f.jpg
[20:19] <JFo> :)
[20:22] <jjohansen> hehe
[20:41] <pgraner> JFo, rofl
[20:42] <JFo> :-)
[20:53]  * jjohansen lunch
[22:15] <vanhoof> JFo: http://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/cto/1879395238.html
[23:24]  * manjo out for the moment


[06:22] <mup> Bug #1717543 opened: [FFe] Standing Feature Freeze Exception for MAAS 2.3 <verification-needed> <verification-needed-artful> <maas (Ubuntu):New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1717543>
[06:22] <mup> Bug #1717543 changed: [FFe] Standing Feature Freeze Exception for MAAS 2.3 <verification-needed> <verification-needed-artful> <maas (Ubuntu):New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1717543>
[06:55] <mup> Bug #1721454 opened: Finding how to rename a node is difficult <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1721454>
[07:18] <boolman> I'm having trouble with my Maas, I can pxe boot. but the servers wont register. where can I get a complete list of network port requirements?
[07:18] <boolman> for my firewall
[08:31] <mup> Bug #1717543 changed: [FFe] Standing Feature Freeze Exception for MAAS 2.3 <verification-needed> <verification-needed-artful> <maas (Ubuntu):Fix Released> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1717543>
[11:18] <roaksoax> boolman: what's the error you see ?
[11:19] <roaksoax> d you have a console log ?
[11:47] <mup> Bug #1721523 opened: [2.3] tgt continues to get restarted and managed even when disabled <MAAS:Triaged> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1721523>
[11:47] <mup> Bug #1721524 opened: [2.3, UI, HWTv2] When upgrading from older MAAS, Storage HW tests are not mapped to a disk <MAAS:Triaged> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1721524>
[11:47] <mup> Bug #1721525 opened: [2.3, UI, HWTv2] Storage card on machine details page missing red bar on top if there are failed tests <MAAS:Triaged by newell-jensen> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1721525>
[12:38] <mup> Bug # changed: 1389811, 1706462, 1707674, 1707675, 1710867, 1715337, 1715687
[12:59] <mup> Bug #1394306 changed: maas 1.7 upgrade: document potential need for maas-proxy.conf manual setup migration <canonical-bootstack> <canonical-is> <MAAS:Won't Fix> <maas (Ubuntu):Won't Fix> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1394306>
[12:59] <mup> Bug # changed: 1394306, 1443644, 1537095, 1540539, 1540548, 1587201, 1612755, 1715345, 1715353
[13:05] <mup> Bug #1394306 opened: maas 1.7 upgrade: document potential need for maas-proxy.conf manual setup migration <canonical-bootstack> <canonical-is> <MAAS:Won't Fix> <maas (Ubuntu):Won't Fix> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1394306>
[13:05] <mup> Bug # opened: 1394306, 1443644, 1537095, 1540539, 1540548, 1587201, 1612755, 1715345, 1715353
[13:08] <mup> Bug #1394306 changed: maas 1.7 upgrade: document potential need for maas-proxy.conf manual setup migration <canonical-bootstack> <canonical-is> <MAAS:Won't Fix> <maas (Ubuntu):Won't Fix> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1394306>
[13:08] <mup> Bug # changed: 1352582, 1379566, 1394306, 1443644, 1537095, 1540539, 1540548, 1575625, 1587201, 1612755, 1715345, 1715353
[13:17] <mup> Bug #1352582 opened: MAAS doesn't detect invalid YAML in curtin_userdata <canonical-is> <internal> <tech-debt> <MAAS:Fix Released> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1352582>
[13:17] <mup> Bug #1379566 opened: maas-cluster depends on secure_path settings in sudoers <canonical-is> <MAAS:Fix Released> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1379566>
[13:17] <mup> Bug #1575625 opened: Can't find way for MAAS to autodiscover IPMI settings <canonical-is> <MAAS:Invalid> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1575625>
[13:26] <mup> Bug #1352582 changed: MAAS doesn't detect invalid YAML in curtin_userdata <canonical-is> <internal> <tech-debt> <MAAS:Fix Released> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1352582>
[13:26] <mup> Bug #1379566 changed: maas-cluster depends on secure_path settings in sudoers <canonical-is> <MAAS:Fix Released> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1379566>
[13:26] <mup> Bug #1575625 changed: Can't find way for MAAS to autodiscover IPMI settings <canonical-is> <MAAS:Invalid> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1575625>
[13:38] <mup> Bug #1593487 changed: [2.0b7]maas-region-controller failed to preconfigure exit 127 <cdo-qa> <internal> <MAAS:Invalid> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1593487>
[13:38] <mup> Bug #1628338 changed: 2.1a4:syslog flooded with whoami requests <cdo-qa> <internal> <MAAS:Invalid> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1628338>
[13:44] <mup> Bug #1721548 opened: [2.3] Failure on controller refresh seem to be causing version to not get update <MAAS:Triaged> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1721548>
[14:02] <mup> Bug #1721548 changed: [2.3] Failure on controller refresh seem to be causing version to not get update <MAAS:Triaged> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1721548>
[14:08] <mup> Bug #1721548 opened: [2.3] Failure on controller refresh seem to be causing version to not get update <MAAS:Triaged> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1721548>
[14:24] <saudk> Hello Guys
[14:24] <saudk> I am trying to import the ubuntu 16.04 image in MAAS
[14:25] <saudk> and seeing this error
[14:25] <saudk>  [ERROR] Failed to download images: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: u'/tmp/maas-Ud4i5y/usr/lib/shim/shim.efi.signed'
[14:25] <saudk> any ideas?
[14:25] <saudk> thanks
[14:33] <xgrid> exit
[16:50] <mup> Bug #1721587 opened: [2.3, UI, HWTv2] Commissioning logs (and those of v2 HW Tests) are not being show <MAAS:Triaged by ltrager> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1721587>
[17:07] <roaksoax> saudk_: what version of MAAS are you using ?
[17:37] <junaidali> roaksoax: I had a private chat with saudk, he is using maas 1.9 on trusty
[17:39] <junaidali> with maas 2.2, he was facing an issue where importing image gets stuck. Moving on to 1.9, the image gets imported but in maas.log and clusterd.log, it errors out with the msg he shared
[17:43] <roaksoax> junaidali: he needs to upgrade to latest 1.9 in -proposed
[17:46] <shubjero> Anyone here work with Intel PCH RAID (available on supermicro servers and others).. I've got two SSD's configured as RAID-1 in the intel raid bios but MaaS still see's two separate SSD's.. I was expecting MaaS to see 1 virtual disk
[17:54] <junaidali> roaksoax: noted, thanks
[17:55] <roaksoax> shubjero: that could actually be an issue with the OS itself, since maas uses lsblk
[17:56] <shubjero> i would think the os would just show 1 device even with lsblk though.. since the whole point of a raid controller is to add a layer of abstraction
[17:58] <shubjero> im going to ignore the fact that maas see's the two disks, and just configure one of them to boot & install the os on and see what happens inside the os once it's deployed :)
[17:59] <roaksoax> shubjero: that's my point, it could be an issue with the os
[17:59] <shubjero> ok, fingers crossed.. here goes :)
[18:12] <shubjero> roaksoax: weird, the deploy crashed on ntp stuff? https://pastebin.com/ULXEc8Rg
[18:20] <roaksoax> shubjero: that's a known bug, are you sure you using your latest images ?
[18:20] <roaksoax> shubjero: it was an issue with the kernel
[18:21] <shubjero> mine are set to sync automatically
[18:23] <roaksoax> shubjero: what version of MAAS ?
[18:29] <shubjero> 2.1, but i see there are updates to my maas packages so im upgrading to 2.2
[18:35] <mup> Bug #1721611 opened: [2.3] Rack refresh failures may be causing controllers to become degraded <MAAS:Triaged> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1721611>
[22:44] <JoeJulian> I cannot find a release schedule. When is 2.3.0 expected to go GA?


[01:14] <csmith1994> hey guys I made a presentation on ubuntu that I'd like to show you
[01:14] <csmith1994> http://prezi.com/x0uc301mgbsg/ubuntu/
[01:14] <csmith1994> if you want to see it


[11:25] <tek> my major problem with kubuntu so far has been konqueror locking up periodically. had to go back and start using firefox again.
[11:25] <GhostFreeman> ok
[11:25] <cartel_> GhostFreeman: Xscreensaver?
[11:25] <_ReDRuM_> woa - gimp with gtk-qt engine is sweet - now all they need to do is work the look of the kde file dialogs into gtk, and make the kde ones work more like the gnome ones, and we have one hell of an OS
[11:25] <GhostFreeman> no, the screensaver cp
[11:26] <cartel_> _ReDRuM_: we already have one hell of an os.
[11:26] <andrewski> _ReDRuM_: oh, that's it? :P
[11:26] <cartel_> GhostFreeman: the screensaver part in kcontrol made you crash?
[11:26] <GhostFreeman> yeah
[11:26] <cartel_> GhostFreeman: previewing OpenGL screensaver?
[11:26] <GhostFreeman> its likely
[11:27] <insanekane> _ReDRuM_: or maybe convert gnome/gtk file dialogs into KDE/Qt ones ... and we still have one hell of an OS :)
[11:27] <cartel_> GhostFreeman: and that hosed your .kde?
[11:27] <_ReDRuM_> cartel_: i'd say we have maybe 1/2 of a hell of an OS. satan isn't too worried just yet. there's still plenty of room for improvement :)
[11:27] <cartel_> _ReDRuM_: satan is very worried :p
[11:27] <_ReDRuM_> insanekane: heh yeh thats what i was trying to say :P
[11:27] <insanekane> _ReDRuM_: make the kde ones work more like the gnome ones <- ???
[11:27] <cartel_> _ReDRuM_: the balance of power has already shifted :)
[11:27] <cartel_> the gnome picker is SHIT
[11:27] <GhostFreeman> yeah.
[11:28] <andrewski> insanekane: that sounds like a better idea to me; the GTK one is better IMO.
[11:28] <cartel_> GhostFreeman: so it killed all your settings and kde wont even boot you say?
[11:28] <GhostFreeman> no, kde will boot
[11:28] <insanekane> andrewski: i rather like the KDE one ;)
[11:28] <andrewski> cartel_: you can't preview, it's too complicated, and it's hard to browse.
[11:28] <GhostFreeman> but that part freezes it up and I haveta hard boot
[11:28] <_ReDRuM_> insanekane: the gnomeish ones do handy things like allowing you to type "blah" to hilight file "blahhhh" - kde really needs that
[11:28] <andrewski> insanekane: oh, i misunderstood you. :P
[11:28] <GhostFreeman> I can boot back into KDE and GNOM
[11:28] <GhostFreeman> GNOME*
[11:28] <cartel_> _ReDRuM_: thats a wishlist bug :)
[11:29] <_ReDRuM_> it's my biggest gripe with kde.
[11:29] <cartel_> _REDRuM_: bugs.kde.org / launchpad.ubuntu.com
[11:29] <_ReDRuM_> bigger than the random sig 11's
[11:29] <chavo> _ReDRuM_, you can do that in kde also, just put the focus on the file list, and then type what you're looking for.
[11:30] <_ReDRuM_> chavo: it always keeps highlighting the beginning of files for be like typing "blah" higlightits "band, lamp, alpha and halo"
[11:30] <cartel_> GhostFreeman: you know that Xscreensaver has the most bleeding edge / hackerish X code there is right? its pretty much a free for all, and most importantly, jwz wont do shit if it caused a crash for you UNLESS you file a bug report
[11:30] <_ReDRuM_> if your one works differently... pfft. i want your one :P
[11:30] <chavo> _ReDRuM_, you just have to type quickly to get the second letter and so on.
[11:30] <insanekane> _ReDRuM_: yeah ur right ... KDE doesnt have that
[11:30] <insanekane> chavo: really ?
[11:31] <_ReDRuM_> chavo is insisting it does....
[11:31] <chavo> _ReDRuM_, you were talking about the file selector.
[11:31] <_ReDRuM_> he's right
[11:31] <_ReDRuM_> if you type it fast it works
[11:31] <cartel_> my biggest gripe about kde isnt really about kde, its about web pages
[11:31] <chavo> but konq does it also
[11:31] <cartel_> not displaying correctly in konq :)
[11:32] <cartel_> thats not konqs fault, its lazy web coders :)
[11:32] <chavo> cartel_, bugs.kde.org
[11:32] <_ReDRuM_> it needs to be slowed down
[11:32] <_ReDRuM_> thats way too fast
[11:32] <_ReDRuM_> i have to put it in at fast enough to type at least 60-70wpm
[11:32] <motaboy> c'mon guys. let's start coding for kde :D
[11:32] <cartel_> _ReDRuM_: you mean... you need an option to be able to change its sensitivity
[11:32] <_ReDRuM_> yes
[11:32] <_ReDRuM_> :)
[11:32] <chavo> yeah, you have to type the next letter pretty quickly, but it works when you get used to it.
[11:32] <cartel_> _ReDRuM_: file a wishlist bug its pretty trivial :)
[11:33] <_ReDRuM_> it is now it has the feature...
[11:33] <chavo> Oh no, not another option in Control Center.
[11:33] <_ReDRuM_> it was major before it had it.
[11:33] <chavo> _ReDRuM_, I'll look into it.
[11:33] <chavo> Maybe not an option, but slowing it down a little bit.
[11:33] <_ReDRuM_> cool :)
[11:34] <_ReDRuM_> i could do it myself if i stopped being lazy it cant be harder than changing an integer :P
[11:34] <_ReDRuM_> she? he.
[11:34] <insanekane> oh yeah it works :)
[11:34] <cartel_> chavo: it can go in accessibility.
[11:35] <Tm_T> plah, why I'm not sleeping
[11:35] <_ReDRuM_> the default should be slower since chavo is the only person i've ever mentioned this to who realised KDE really does have that feature
[11:35] <_ReDRuM_> and i've been moaning about it for months :)
[11:35] <insanekane> ok .. 3am here .. time to sleep .. cya all
[11:36] <cartel_> _ReDRuM_: i agree its pretty useless :)
[11:36] <insanekane> cya _ReDRuM_,
[11:36] <chavo> Either that or it should be documented.
[11:36] <cartel_> CRAP i forgot my headphones again
[11:36] <_ReDRuM_> bye kane
[11:38] <_ReDRuM_> i guess whoever put it in thought "eh power user feature" without realising they themselves must be a GUI filemanager power user ++ :P
[11:38] <Tm_T> hmm
[11:39] <_ReDRuM_> any suggestions for further improving the prettyness of kde: http://xs404.xs.to/pics/05140/snapshot4.jpg
[11:39] <_ReDRuM_> i know it's shallow but i like a sexy desktop :P
[11:40] <Tm_T> _ReDRuM_: dropshadow
[11:40] <_ReDRuM_> appearence -> style -> effects dropshadow?
[11:40] <_ReDRuM_> cause it's on... it just doesn't work on my system for some reason...
[11:41] <_ReDRuM_> nothing in that tab does except menu translucency
[11:41] <_ReDRuM_> probably for the same reason the baghira theme window titlebars dont work
[11:42] <_ReDRuM_> eh im happy.
[11:42] <andrewski> _ReDRuM_: what's the weather desklet?
[11:42] <_ReDRuM_> andrewski: liquid weather for superkarama
[11:43] <andrewski> _ReDRuM_: ok.
[11:43] <_ReDRuM_> superkaramba is in the repo
[11:43] <_ReDRuM_> you have to download liquid weather but it doesnt need compiling
[11:43] <andrewski> anyone been able to get kwin's drop shadow with nvidia cards?
[11:43] <_ReDRuM_> andrewski: it's flakey with my ATI too
[11:43] <Tm_T> andrewski: yes
[11:43] <_ReDRuM_> andrewski: which driver you using? opensource or official?
[11:43] <Tm_T> easiluy
[11:44] <andrewski> _ReDRuM_: official causes it to freeze.
[11:44] <_ReDRuM_> Tm_T: sure easily, you just clicked the button and it worked for you.
[11:44] <andrewski> Tm_T: any freezing problems?
[11:45] <Tm_T> andrewski: no
[11:45] <_ReDRuM_> andrewski: i remember setting up nvidia official drivers on another system and having a headache with it but by fooling around with the nvidia specific options in xorg.conf it eventually behaved itself
[11:45] <andrewski> Tm_T: what instructions did you follow?  i haven't been able to get it to work.
[11:45] <Tm_T> _ReDRuM_: I installed drivers and configured my xorg.conf
[11:45] <andrewski> _ReDRuM_: i couldn't get a good combination of those.
[11:45] <Tm_T> andrewski: done it my own way
[11:45] <_ReDRuM_> Tm_T: paste your settings?
[11:45] <andrewski> Tm_T: could you paste your xorg.conf?  i've tried a lot of stuff.
[11:46] <Tm_T> I'll do that
[11:46] <_ReDRuM_> http://pastebin.ca <--- good place to paste them to
[11:46] <andrewski> Tm_T: i'm assuming you're using the latest driver?
[11:46] <Tm_T> andrewski: I think so
[11:46] <andrewski> Tm_T: well, hoary, right?
[11:46] <Tm_T> what else =)
[11:46] <andrewski> Tm_T: then yes. ;P
[11:46] <cartel_> hmm
[11:46] <apokryphos> Who here knew about the /cmd with konversation? Prints output of a command in konvi. i.e.
[11:47] <apokryphos> Linux ubuntu 2.6.10-5-k7 #1 Tue Apr 5 12:56:05 UTC 2005 i686 GNU/Linux
[11:47] <cartel_> guys can you try running khotkeys from konsole
[11:47] <_ReDRuM_> cool :) /exec -o from bitchx :P
[11:47] <_ReDRuM_> Linux delta 2.6.10-5-386 #1 Tue Apr 5 12:12:40 UTC 2005 i686 GNU/Linux
[11:47] <_ReDRuM_> sweet
[11:47] <apokryphos> cool eh?
[11:47] <_ReDRuM_> yeh... kinda useless but fun :P
[11:47] <cartel_> tom@shockwave:~/octopus$ khotkeys
[11:47] <cartel_> ERROR: Communication problem with khotkeys, it probably crashed.
[11:47] <andrewski> Tm_T: just use my nick when you respond; i'll brb.
[11:47] <Tm_T> _ReDRuM_: why 386 kernel?
[11:47] <_ReDRuM_> should have the option to output it to just local also
[11:47] <apokryphos> Uptime: 9 hours and  minutes
[11:48] <_ReDRuM_> Tm_T: cause i heard there was problems with the 2.6.11 so i haven't bothered changing it until they fix the problems with 2.6.11
[11:48] <_ReDRuM_> my system is working adequately...
[11:48] <Tm_T> _ReDRuM_: I Mean why 2.6.10-5- _386_
[11:48] <_ReDRuM_> Tm_T: lazyness.
[11:48] <Tm_T> bah
[11:48] <tek>  14:48:23 up 2 days, 6 min,  2 users,  load average: 0.08, 0.36, 0.46
[11:49] <Tm_T> 00:50:09 up 40 days,  5:39, 10 users,  load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00
[11:49] <Tm_T> =)
[11:50] <_ReDRuM_> 10 users?
[11:50] <Tm_T> yes
[11:50] <_ReDRuM_> how many shells you need :P
[11:50] <Tm_T> _ReDRuM_: I'm not the only user
[11:50] <_ReDRuM_> on your local system?
[11:50] <_ReDRuM_> what the other guys doing on your desktop?
[11:50] <apokryphos> cartel_: but that isn't the place for user support
[11:50] <Tm_T> _ReDRuM_: that's my irssi server :p
[11:51] <_ReDRuM_> oh :)
[11:51] <Tm_T> _ReDRuM_: I use it trough ssh
[11:51] <Tm_T> and many others
[11:51] <_ReDRuM_> running an irc server... heh haven't done that since i was 15
[11:51] <Tm_T> 00:51:30 up 79 days,  4:38, 62 users,  load average: 0.08, 0.10, 0.09
[11:51] <_ReDRuM_> used to have one in new zealand and some script kiddie dos'd it so badly he took out ove 90% of new zealands connectivitiy for several minutes
[11:51] <Tm_T> other irssi box
[11:52] <_ReDRuM_> suffice to say we became friends after that heh
[11:52] <_ReDRuM_> easier than having that happen every few days
[11:52] <Tm_T> =)
[11:52] <Tm_T> _ReDRuM_: no, not irc server, thats different :p
[11:53] <_ReDRuM_> i thought irssi was an irc client? is it a file server?
[11:53] <Tm_T> just box where we run irssi
[11:53] <_ReDRuM_> oh to bounce from?
[11:53] <Tm_T> no
[11:53] <Tm_T> no bounce
[11:53] <_ReDRuM_> what purpose is it?
[11:53] <Tm_T> _ReDRuM_: I connect to ti by ssh and use it like local :p
[11:54] <_ReDRuM_> heh
[11:54] <Tm_T> doesn't matter where you are, same irssi ;p
[11:54] <_ReDRuM_> like you say - doesnt matter - same irssi
[11:54] <_ReDRuM_> heh
[11:54] <Tm_T> yep
[11:55] <Tm_T> bouncing is way different
[11:55] <_ReDRuM_> Tm_T: i know the technical distinction, to me it is the same thing, ircing from a different host...
[11:55] <Tm_T> haa
[11:56] <Tm_T> hmm, our main server is down, so I only have 2 irssi running :/
[11:56] <_ReDRuM_> addict :P
[11:57] <\sh> guys...
[11:57] <_ReDRuM_> http://www.torrentspy.com/default.asp#Spammer%20sentenced%20to%20nine%20years
[11:57] <Tm_T> hm
[11:57] <Tm_T> hang him
[11:57] <_ReDRuM_> spammer gets 9 years jail :)
[11:57] <\sh> the right place for kwin-styles/decoration/color-schemes and .desktop files for those is?
[11:57] <\sh> ./usr/share/apps/kwin ?
[11:57] <Tm_T> \sh: there's place in your home dir
[11:57] <_ReDRuM_> \sh: you can put them in your own directory if its only for your use
[11:58] <SpookyET> i wish there was apt-get uninstall ubuntu-desktop
[11:58] <_ReDRuM_> debinstall? checkinstall
[11:58] <_ReDRuM_> SpookyET: you can't do that?
[11:58] <_ReDRuM_> why won't it let you?
[11:59] <\sh> _ReDRuM_: this is for me also the only correct place...but lintian is warning me ;)
[11:59] <SpookyET> ubuntu-desktop is not a known package
[11:59] <Tm_T> so you don't have it
[11:59] <_ReDRuM_> apt-cache show ubuntu-desktop
[11:59] <_ReDRuM_> you probably already removed it
[11:59] <_ReDRuM_> but what you want to do is remove those dependencies
[11:59] <SpookyET> it's there
[11:59] <SpookyET> i got gnome installed
[12:00] <_ReDRuM_> if you have kubuntu-desktop installed you should be able to remove them all just fine since kubuntu and your gnome apps will protect the needed bits...
[12:00] <SpookyET> i tried apt-get remove ubuntu-desktop
[12:00] <_ReDRuM_> \sh: you can put them in ~/.kde/share/apps/kwin
[12:00] <apokryphos> SpookyET: that won't do anything; it's a metapackage
[12:00] <SpookyET> how do you remove it?
[12:01] <apokryphos> SpookyET: you want to remove all gtk etc?
[12:01] <SpookyET> i want to remove all ubunto-desktop