[09:57] <q-tip> Morning guys trying to downgrade the xlibs library to get a package working again here but it trips on dependancies I try to force install but still fails
[09:57] <q-tip> sudo dpkg -i libx11-6_1.0.3-0ubuntu4_i386.deb
[09:57] <ivx> snapAMD_ yeah i would guess you have the wrong firmware installed then, read the script to see what it did and undo it, and start with those two things
[09:57] <q-tip> any ideas how to get it to install ?
[09:57] <thebillywayne> in what section do I place the splashimage=(hd0,0)/grub/splashimages/NightOfUbuntu.xpm.gz line in menu.lst?
[09:58] <snapAMD_> ivx restricted drivers manager tells me your hardware does not require any restricted drivers then closes
[09:58] <Jack> anyone know a really active torrent site where i can get the i386 version?  i've gotta reinstall, and the websites ftp is slow as hell
[09:58] <eck> q-tip: if there are lots of dependencies you can't really do it without breaking things... you'd have to downgrade all the things that depend on it, and it would just spiral out of controll
[09:58] <ivx> snapAMD_ so then do the google search
[09:59] <snapAMD_> oh ive googled and googled for hours
[09:59] <Pi4uks> !help
[09:59] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[09:59] <Pi4uks> !ati
[09:59] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[09:59] <q-tip> exk its just x11-common that is the package but I dont want to downgrade everything
[10:00] <esperegu> anyone knows how it can be that the window manager does not start????
[10:00] <WantlessPower> ubotu, you smell like fish
[10:00] <eck> q-tip: the problem would be if other packages have a dependency that says x11-common > whatever you're installing, and then they would break after downgrading
[10:02] <eck> q-tip: you need to look at the dependencies that x11-common has and are preventing it from installing and see if you can even satisfy those requirements
[10:02] <eck> (this is why downgrading is not recommended)
[10:03] <tarelerulz> I don't have sound in my headphones ,but I seem to have sound . I had usb external sound output pluged in and I think I may have picked it .
[10:05] <snapAMD_> ivx cant get the script open to see what it did
[10:05] <snapAMD_> ivx so i think im going to reinstall to clean it out
[10:06] <Polis_ttt> i get error "You do not appear to have the sources for the 2.6.15-26-server kernel installed." when i'm trying to install zaptel on my ubuntu 6.06-lamp server, what can i do to solve this?
[10:07] <kahrytan> How do you compile kernels these days?
[10:07] <Flannel> !kernel | kahrytan
[10:07] <ubotu> kahrytan: kernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux') - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel.  You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild
[10:07] <Polis_ttt> thanks
[10:08] <kahrytan> from Kernel.org
[10:08] <Flannel> Polis_ttt: eh?  You shouldn't need kernel sources for zaptel.  It's in the repositories.
[10:08] <eck> kahrytan: make menuconfig. make. that's it
[10:09] <kahrytan> eck: Whats it like compared to 5 years ago?
[10:09] <eck> kahrytan: the same :-)
[10:09] <kahrytan> eck: So nothings changed. They really should work on that
[10:09] <zeroda1> Parmenion: hey
[10:10] <HYPOCRISY> Hello
[10:10] <Polis_ttt> Flannel: but when i run make clean, i get a error that some directory (same as the installer is in, is missing) and when i run make, i get kernel-error
[10:10] <Parmenion> hey zeroda1
[10:10] <Flannel> kahrytan: eh?  It's compiling... there isn't much going to change.
[10:10] <eck> kahrytan: no, the current system is good. i can't imagine what you would want to change
[10:10] <Flannel> Polis_ttt: why not install the package instead of compiling?
[10:10] <HYPOCRISY> ?
[10:11] <deadeyes> hi guys
[10:11] <zeroda1> hi
[10:11] <deadeyes> how can I know what processor is in a machine?
[10:11] <dan__> Question: How can I get a Video DVD to rip onto my computer so that I can copy it onto another DVD and it will be able to play on a DVD player? Anyone know?
[10:11] <eck> deadeyes: cat /proc/cpuinfo
[10:12] <deadeyes> eck thanks!
[10:12] <Polis_ttt> Flannel: true, but i got an error message when i done that before, but now it worked, thanks
[10:12] <Parmenion> dan__: lspci
[10:12] <eck> no problem
[10:12] <kahrytan> eck: I tried it once. Its complicated to do.
 Is that a program?
[10:12] <zeroda1> !dvdrip | dan_
[10:12] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dvdrip - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:12] <Flannel> kahrytan: Package management gets rid of the need for compiling in most cases.
[10:12] <eck> kahrytan: the only complicated part is figuring out what options to compile in, which isn't that complicated once you've done it a few times and understand what things are
[10:12] <IndyGunFreak> !acidrip
[10:12] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about acidrip - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:12] <zeroda1> dan__: dvdrip
[10:12] <Parmenion> or dan__, you could go under system>preferences>hardware information
[10:13] <zeroda1> Parmenion: wrong person
[10:13] <IndyGunFreak> I like Acidrip better than :dvdrip:
[10:13] <Parmenion> zeroda1: ?
[10:13] <dan__> which one will rip it into a format that i can burn it to a dvd and it will play on a dvd player?
[10:13] <kahrytan> eck: And I don't know what the options do. But I like the features of the new kernel.
[10:13] <zeroda1> Parmenion: dan_ is asking for dvdripper. deadeyes wants cpu info
[10:13] <zeroda1> dan__: both
[10:13] <IndyGunFreak> dan__: i think they both do that...
[10:14] <eck> kahrytan: that's why you're expected to get the kernel from your distribution ;-)
[10:14] <dan__> The program is called dvdripper?
[10:14] <Parmenion> O.o :p sorry peeps
[10:14] <tom__> hey all
[10:14] <kahrytan> eck: New one adds some new security extras.
[10:14] <eck> kahrytan: also, the features that are introduced in new kernels are normally extraordinarily boring for desktop users
[10:14] <IndyGunFreak> dan__: no.. its called ::dvdrip::  note the ::
[10:15] <eck> kahrytan: for what? selinux?
[10:15] <Parmenion> deadeyes  system>preferences>hardware information
[10:15] <tom__> IndyGunFreak: do you know how to use dvdrip?
[10:15] <dan__> IndyGunFreak: K, I'm installing it.
[10:15] <Parmenion> zeroda1: dont know how i messed it up :\ i
[10:15] <riaal> is it safe to boot the live cd and enter the rescue mode to be able to use the partition manager? whitout damaging the install?
[10:15] <zeroda1> Parmenion: np
[10:15] <IndyGunFreak> tom_:  i prefer acidrip, but i've used dvdrip,
[10:15] <tom__> IndyGunFreak: ok,  they're all super complex, hey?
[10:16] <IndyGunFreak> uh, no
[10:16] <insmod> sorry
[10:16] <WantlessPower> later peeps
[10:16] <kerik> hey there
[10:16] <zeroda1> kerik: hi
[10:16] <kerik> anybody who know about problems with Evolution mail client?
[10:16] <kahrytan> eck depends on the user
[10:16] <thebillywayne> #fs-security
[10:16] <zeroda1> kerik: whats wrong?
[10:16] <Parmenion> riaal: shouldnt be any problem ...
[10:17] <kerik> zeroda1, well...I start up Evolution and it shuts itself down..
[10:17] <zeroda1> kerik: do you have beryl?
[10:17] <zeroda1> kerik: and have you tried running evolution in the terminal?
[10:17] <kerik> zeroda1, hmmm...I know I have heard it before the Beryl...what is it?
[10:18] <magnetron> !beryl | kerik
[10:18] <ubotu> kerik: Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[10:18] <kerik> zeroda1, have tried from terminal
[10:18] <dan__> WHat format does the rip have to be to be able to burn it to a dvd and play on a dvd player?
[10:18] <thebillywayne> !iptables
[10:18] <ubotu> Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).
[10:18] <zeroda1> kerik: what error message?
[10:19] <snap> ivx reinstalling w/ 32 bit fiesty   i need wine for 1 app
[10:19] <kerik> zeroda1, http://pastebin.ca/460767
[10:19] <HorizonXP> !ndiswrapper
[10:19] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[10:19] <projectblu> does anyone know how to make it so i can edit and move my files it says i dont have permission
[10:19] <snap> ivx then can you help me w/ NDis
[10:19] <kerik> zeroda1, don't think I have beryl...would I use that in stead of gnome?
[10:19] <eck> kahrytan: the point is that most of the work that goes into the kernel is not desktop related
[10:20] <kerik> !beryl | kerik
[10:20] <zeroda1> kerik: if you dont know it than your prob dont have it
[10:20] <kerik> zeroda1, obkb :)
[10:20] <insmod> projectblu: sudo
[10:20] <zeroda1> kerik: did you have some plugins in your evolution
[10:20] <projectblu> i cant do it in gnome only terminal
[10:20] <kahrytan> eck: I'm not ready for my ideal linux system. I want entirely 100% encrypted system.
[10:21] <eck> kahrytan: the support is in the kernel to do so
[10:21] <eck> well disk encryption anyway, i'm not sure what 100% encrypted means
[10:21] <ericsson> Anyone who could help me switch language on 6.10 LTS server?
[10:21] <kahrytan> eck: I know. You have done it?
[10:21] <kerik> zeroda1, nope
[10:22] <kerik> zeroda1, at least none that I know of
[10:22] <zeroda1> ericsson: system > admin > languages
[10:22] <kerik> zeroda1, and it has worked...
[10:22] <dac> ericsson, is it daytime there in Fi?
[10:22] <eck> kahrytan: no
[10:22] <ericsson> dac, yes, it's 11:22 at the moment
[10:22] <deadeyes> I am doing a dist-upgrade to feisty (I probably did it from Dapper :s) and I get an error that dpkg return -1 for mysql-server. Any way I can skip mysql-server?
[10:22] <zeroda1> kerik: your error report says that spam assassin stuffed it up
[10:23] <eck> kahrytan: my system is puny enough without throwing in full disk encryption
[10:23] <zeroda1> kerik: which gave it a seg fault
[10:23] <dac> wow, it's 3:26am here
[10:23] <kerik> zeroda1, yeah I saw that....
[10:23] <Flannel> deadeyes: To dapper, eh?  That's a no no.
[10:23] <ericsson> The server is currently running on finnish language and I need to switch it to English :)
[10:23] <Flannel> deadeyes: er, from dapper even.  I suppose english is a no no for me tonight.
[10:23] <deadeyes> Flannel: no, I mean, from Dapper, to Feisty:)
[10:23] <kerik> zeroda1, but I haven't been installing that app...is it included in the package?
[10:23] <kahrytan> eck: I would understand that it would slow down the system.
[10:23] <fantix> Beijing 16:23, fantix reporting in.
[10:23] <deadeyes> Flannel: could that be the problem?
[10:24] <Flannel> deadeyes: right, still no good.  Shouldve gone through edgy.
[10:24] <zeroda1> kerik: it shouldnt be there anyway you cant fix a seg fault so you have to reinstall evolution
[10:24] <deadeyes> Flannel: too late now:s
[10:24] <zeroda1> fantix: hey singapore
[10:24] <ericsson> dac That would be about sleeping time then? ;)
[10:24] <eck> kahrytan: anyway, the point is that the problem right now is in userspace tools (and actually there is a blueprint on LP for making disk encryption simple)
[10:24] <kerik> deadeyes, I didn't succeed updating through edgy, so don't know if that'd make any changes anyhow...
[10:25] <Flannel> deadeyes: you'll most likely have to get your hands dirty with fixing some stuff.  Does it tell you why mysql-server isn't instlaling?
[10:25] <fantix> zeroda1: Using Debian without IM... :(
[10:25] <kerik> zeroda1, sudo apt-get --reinstall install evolution?
[10:25] <kahrytan> eck: I am still in s-478 cpu so won't be happened anytime soon.
[10:25] <deadeyes> Flannel: no
[10:25] <deadeyes> Flannel: but I want to skip it and do it later
[10:25] <deadeyes> or can I uninstall it?
[10:25] <zeroda1> kerik: sudo apt-get remove evolution
[10:25] <dac> yea, but I can't sleep,I always get up at 3amand play online.
[10:25] <zeroda1> kerik: then sudo apt-get install evolution
[10:26] <Polis_ttt> how do i remove some packade from apt-get? I tryed to istall mtop, but now it fails and everytime i installes something, it automaticly tryes to install mtop to :(
[10:26] <zeroda1> kerik: should fix it
[10:26] <Ranpha1> He guys got a problem. i just made a new user and all of a sudden my networkmanager isn't showing in the new account. It show in the old but not in the new. What should i do?
[10:26] <eck> kahrytan: if you're interested https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/easy-encryption
[10:26] <Flannel> deadeyes: then just remove the package
[10:26] <zeroda1> Polis_ttt: sudo apt-get remove <package>
[10:26] <kahrytan> eck: I would do it with duo core and SATA 3.0gb/s
[10:26] <kerik> zeroda1, thanks mate
[10:27] <zeroda1> kerik: no prob hope you get evolution back
[10:28] <zeroda1> !automatix > zeroday
[10:28] <deadeyes> Flannel: wont that remove the data from the database?
[10:28] <zeroda1> !automatix > zeroda1
[10:28] <deadeyes> I can't permit it to loose that data
[10:29] <Flannel> deadeyes: Uh, it shouldn't.  Just removing the package should keep the config/etc files, just removing the programs.  However, to be absolutely sure, you should back up.
[10:29] <Flannel> deadeyes: just don't --purge
[10:29] <|demortes|> Anyone know how to "unfree" the fish?
[10:29] <deadeyes> Flannel: ok, thanks for your help. Just a little question... where can I find the data files?
[10:29] <deadeyes> Flannel: to back it up
[10:29] <kahrytan> eck: The blueprint is basicaly a proposal isn't it?
[10:30] <zeroda1> |demortes|: what fish?
[10:30] <Flannel> deadeyes: uh, no idea.  Heh.  You probably need to do some sort of dump via SQL/whtaever to have a usable backup anyway (export/import)
[10:30] <Flannel> deadeyes: usually stuff like that doesn't work well if you just copy out the file.
[10:30] <|demortes|> zeroda1: Press Alt+F2 to bring a terminal. Type "free the fish" and find out
[10:30] <magnetron> |demortes|: what kind of fish? a herring?
[10:31] <|demortes|> Funny
[10:31] <zeroda1> |demortes|: lol
[10:31] <magnetron> |demortes|: click it
[10:31] <|demortes|> Wait for it....
[10:31] <starter> hello friends, one simple question. When I open .txt files created with Notepad in Gedit, it does not recognise the 1251 encoding. How can I fix this? Do I have to use another editor?
[10:31] <jesusch> hi
[10:31] <eck> kahrytan: yes, it's an idea of what could be implemented in a future release
[10:31] <fantix> demortes: try "make a machine"
[10:31] <eck> kahrytan: i think it was originally brought up for feisty but was not accepted as a release goal
[10:32] <jesusch> how can I figure out which version of ubuntu I have installed? /etc/debian_version is very useless on my dapper system
[10:32] <eck> jesusch: lsb_release -a
[10:32] <fantix> Tried gedit?
[10:32] <knp> Hi i got little problem , i made chroot but now i want to get rid of it . Any ideas how to do that ?
[10:32] <|demortes|> fantix: ... Not sure what that should have done, but sure...
[10:32] <M_Fatih> hi
[10:32] <ubuntu_> hi
[10:32] <fantix> starter: Tried gedit?
[10:32] <tom__> jesusch: didn't you just say you had dapper :)
[10:32] <kahrytan> eck: They want a easy to use gui for file encryption or disk. XP has it on NTFS ironically.
[10:32] <xSUSHix> how do i make the updater disregard a certain package?   i never want to update it.
[10:33] <tom__> xSUSHix: whats the package
[10:33] <jesusch> thnx tom__
[10:33] <|demortes|> OK, anyone know how to turn your cursor into a fishing pole and get rid of this damned fish?
[10:33] <M_Fatih> my ssh and sftp, fish, scp all is broken, ssh returns "segmentation fault (core dumped)" error, i have this problems one week, but yesterday it worked, i worked with ssh successfully, but now, i have same problem :( what it that how can i resolve/fix it?
[10:33] <Acidictadpole> aaah hilights :(
[10:33] <tom__> jesusch: lsb_release -d
[10:33] <zeroda1> |demortes|: click the fish
[10:33] <deadeyes> Flannel: that's true... mysqldump is the tool I need ;) thanks for your help
[10:33] <Si|ent> Hello everyone
[10:34] <fantix> Si|ent: Hey there
[10:34] <Si|ent> im having trouble listening to mp3 songs from my NTFS partition
[10:34] <jhaig> |demortes|: Google "free the fish ubuntu" gives the answer - http://blog.fasttracksites.com/index.php?p=viewentry&id=5
[10:34] <eck> M_Fatih: you probably need to strace it to be sure, but my guess is that one of your libraries is borked
[10:34] <Si|ent> each time i click on play, i get "decoder not installed"
[10:34] <knp> Hi i got little problem , i made chroot but now i want to get rid of it . Any ideas how to do that ?
[10:34] <|demortes|> I hope your joking :P
[10:34] <zeroda1> !codecs | Si|ent
[10:34] <ubotu> Si|ent: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[10:35] <Si|ent> ok
[10:35] <Si|ent> thank you
[10:35] <kahrytan> eck: They could just add Truecrypt to the repo
[10:35] <M_Fatih> eck: how can i find what library broken?
[10:35] <fantix> Si|ent: try w32codecs
[10:35] <xSUSHix> tom__ kiba-dock
[10:35] <eck> M_Fatih: if you can strace it you might be able to figure out at what point it is segfaulting
[10:35] <tom__> xSUSHix: is that in the ubuntu repos
[10:35] <magnetron> |demortes|: gegls from outer space
[10:36] <cafuego> aieee! gegls!
[10:36] <xSUSHix> tom__ i installed it from a deb - not sure if its in the repos (i assume so since updater found a newer version)
[10:36] <tom__> xSUSHix: weird
[10:36] <|demortes|> Great, thanks
[10:36] <|demortes|> Tried the cow easter egg
[10:36] <|demortes|> funny stuff
[10:36] <xSUSHix> tom__ i like this older version that i always install from the deb - but its annoying that theres updates for it that i have to uncheck every time i want to update the rest of my stuff
[10:36] <M_Fatih> ah, but i can't work now. my all workareas locked. i'm using ssh all day
[10:36] <|demortes|> the fish got annoying though
[10:36] <eck> kahrytan: no, if you read the spec it is more than just a gui... there are also issues on things like suspend/hibernate and also recovering data if there is corruption
[10:37] <cafuego> aptitude (-vvvvvv) moo?
[10:37] <xSUSHix> how do i make the updater disregard a certain package?   i never want to update it.
[10:37] <tom__> xSUSHix: hmm
[10:37] <magnetron> |demortes|: pkill gnome-panel
[10:37] <|demortes|> i know
[10:37] <|demortes|> thanks
[10:37] <tom__> xSUSHix: when i search for it i cant find it in the ubuntu repos
[10:37] <|demortes|> Found the site.
[10:37] <|demortes|> Just wish this update would hurry it up
[10:37] <eck> kahrytan: there are also encryption systems in the kernel that would be more desirable than something like truecrypt
[10:38] <xSUSHix> tom__ its in mine.
[10:38] <|demortes|> xSUSHix: You sure you arn't using a third part repo?
[10:38] <tom__> xSUSHix: have you got any third party repos in your sources.list
[10:38] <eck> or maybe truecrypt has kernel integration? i'm actually not sure
[10:38] <tom__> |demortes|: :)
[10:38] <xSUSHix> demortes : well maybe i am - can i tell dpkg not to update this package tho ?
[10:38] <M_Fatih> eck: how can i reconfigure all libraries which used by ssh? i tried to reconfigure ssh and tools but not worked, i reinstalled openssh-client and server but not worked :(
[10:38] <tom__> xSUSHix: i don't know how to do that
[10:38] <mjr> eck, it doesn't, it's dmcrypt
[10:39] <tom__> xSUSHix: but if its in some random repo, you  could just comment that out of your sources.list
[10:39] <|demortes|> xSUSHix: I'm unaware of a way, but if you do find a way, I would actually recommend staying with up to date software (except in the case of Vista... don't get me started). Security is greater that way.
[10:39] <xSUSHix> tom__ but that will disable the rest of the packages that i got from there
[10:39] <tom__> xSUSHix: that is correct
[10:39] <kahrytan> eck: Blueprint wants to be it easy to do.
[10:40] <jjido> What is the package for MPlayer? apt-get install mplyer fails
[10:40] <kahrytan> eck: Wants it easy to do
[10:40] <zeroda1> !codecs | jjido
[10:40] <ubotu> jjido: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[10:40] <Flannel> xSUSHix: commenting out the repository will only disable updates form the software, the stuff you already have will stick around
[10:40] <knp>  i got little problem , i made chroot but now i want to get rid of it . Any ideas how to do that ?
[10:40] <zeroda1> !chroot
[10:40] <ubotu> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebootstrapChroot use this to build 32 bit environments on a 64 bit box
[10:40] <HorizonXP> holy crap
[10:40] <kahrytan> eck: Hibernate doesnt even work on my desktop
[10:40] <xSUSHix> how can i find out what repository the package comes from?
[10:40] <HorizonXP> 30 mins, and feisty's installed
[10:40] <knp> zerobal yes i made it but now want to get rid of it
[10:41] <xSUSHix> there must be somoe dpkg command
[10:41] <Flannel> xSUSHix: apt-cache policy [package]
[10:41] <HorizonXP> 10 mins of that was googling for, and installing my wireless adapter
[10:41] <HorizonXP> a microsoft adapter at that... that works in Feisty!!
[10:41] <progek> anyone know how I can get gaim 1.5 back? I'm using feisty
[10:41] <zeroda1> knp: didnt know i was just seein if ot had the info for it
[10:41] <xSUSHix> horizonxp : gratz
[10:41] <Meglo> Whatever this is, despite the fact it means nothing, it has changed my entire perception of the war. Thank you.
[10:41] <M_Fatih> how can i upload to my server over ssh not using ssh and tools? because my ssh is broken (and sftp scp fish.. all broken) but i must to upload some files now :(
[10:41] <tom__> progek: like an old version
[10:41] <knp> zerobal i see...
[10:41] <M_Fatih> where is putty's sftp?
[10:42] <|demortes|> xSUSHix: It looks like that apt-get doesn't ignore the "lock" on the package... so if you just use that, it should accomodate those locks.
[10:42] <tom__> progek: you could remove the version you've got, then just install the old gaim from a  deb on the net
[10:42] <magnetron> M_Fatih: if ssh is broken, you can't upload files over it
[10:42] <HorizonXP> ok, now that Feisty's isntalled, what should I do next?
[10:42] <Flannel> M_Fatih: upload over ssh, but not using ssh?  You can't.
[10:42] <tom__> HorizonXP: party :)
[10:42] <MenZa> Can anyone tell me if it's common to have Flash 9 not working? I remember back when we used Flash 7 and it was pretty common. I still don't have any sound. :/
[10:42] <HorizonXP> tom__: lol....
[10:42] <tom__> MenZa: its working here :)
[10:42] <MenZa> tom__: Out-of-the-box?
[10:42] <HorizonXP> tom__: or sleep, it's almost 5am
[10:42] <progek> tom__ that is what I tried but it gave me a lot of dependencies that I need. Is that normal? Like gaim-data, libgnu11 and some other similar packages
[10:42] <|demortes|> M_Fatih: The closest thing to that is FTP, basically SSH uploads, just without the encryption.
[10:42] <tom__> HorizonXP: thats a better idea
[10:42] <M_Fatih> my ssh is broken but i'm using putty well, but i need upload some files
[10:43] <xSUSHix> demortes : so how do i lock it ?
[10:43] <tom__> progek: yeah it is
[10:43] <M_Fatih> but there is no ftp server :(
[10:43] <MenZa> tom__: I think it has something to do with the soundcard it's set to process to.
[10:43] <zeroda1> MenZa: flash is easy where is it not working?
[10:43] <tom__> MenZa: i recall i installed it off the web
[10:43] <progek> ok thanks
[10:43] <MenZa> Hmm
[10:43] <tom__> MenZa: are you using the alsa drivers
[10:43] <MenZa> Yes.
[10:43] <jjido> How do I chose the default browser for http:? Firefox is too big for my computer
[10:43] <eck> kahrytan: well if you have ideas for it, you should post them to the LP whiteboard and try to raise it at the next UDS
[10:43] <|demortes|> xSUSHix: Didn't you say you locked it in another package manager? They use apt, I believe, so any of them should acknowledge it.
[10:43] <MenZa> I'm pretty sure it's just not sending to the right device.
[10:43] <Flannel> M_Fatih: Putty is ssh, I dont understand.
[10:43] <tom__> MenZa: i think it uses OSS. yes sound under linux is a pos
[10:43] <MenZa> tom__: Yeah, I know :/
[10:44] <magnetron> MenZa: Adobe made flash9 access the soundcard directly... so you can't have another sound player running at the same time
[10:44] <|demortes|> Flannel: Don't forget, putty also has telnet and raw and rlogin capability
[10:44] <Flannel> jjido: sudo update-alternatives --config x-www-browser
[10:44] <xSUSHix> demortes : no i havent locked it - i dont know how
[10:44] <JxMxL> hello i put ubuntu live cd while its booting, it froze on bus0
[10:44] <tom__> MenZa: makes me so dam angry
[10:44] <kahrytan> eck: I wouldn't know where to start.
[10:44] <M_Fatih> putty not using ssh libs.
[10:44] <eck> kahrytan: i believe you can present your ideas and so forth on IRC for UDS
[10:44] <tom__> MenZa: try going into system > pref > sound, and changiing to oss
[10:44] <HorizonXP> ok question guys: my Logitech Mx700 mouse... doesn't work on bootup
[10:44] <zeroda1> jjido: System > Preferences > Preferred Apps
[10:44] <|demortes|> xSUSHix: Let me do a quick search.
[10:44] <tom__> MenZa: then see if it works
[10:44] <MenZa> :O
[10:44] <M_Fatih> so, how can i find which library is broken used by ssh?
[10:44] <Flannel> M_Fatih: but what protocol are you connecting with?
[10:44] <xSUSHix> demortes : thats what i need to do - lock its version so it doesnt update      thanks!
[10:44] <HorizonXP> i have to unplug and replug the usb adapter for it to work
[10:44] <tom__> HorizonXP: are there lights on for the lasser
[10:44] <HorizonXP> this was a problem in edgy too
[10:44] <magnetron> ubotu, tell HorizonXP about doesn't work
[10:45] <tom__> HorizonXP: have a look on the google :)
[10:45] <MenZa> Nothing, tom__.
[10:45] <MenZa> :(
[10:45] <HorizonXP> tom__: yup... the blue LED on the base is on too
[10:45] <kahrytan> eck: I don't know much about the project. All I can think of is use existing software.
[10:45] <tom__> HorizonXP: hmm weird
[10:45] <JxMxL> did anyone had this problem before
[10:45] <jjido> zeroda1 thanks!
[10:45] <tom__> MenZa: with oss, can you get sound from other things
[10:45] <zeroda1> jjido: np
[10:45] <M_Fatih> Flannel: ssh
[10:46] <MenZa> No, tom__
[10:46] <HorizonXP> magnetron: doesn't work as in, it doesn't respond... no mouse movement, no clicking, nothing
[10:46] <MenZa> I think the device I want is "USB Audio"
[10:46] <HorizonXP> magnetron, tom__: other than the lights
[10:46] <MenZa> At least, anything else works there
[10:47] <afief> For a nVidia GeForce FX 5200, should i use the legacy or normal drivers?
[10:47] <zeroda1> HorizonXP: same except that its my usb wireless adapter
[10:47] <tom__> MenZa: are you sure its using flash 9
[10:47] <zeroda1> afief: normal
[10:47] <MenZa> Positive
[10:47] <|demortes|> xSUSHix: I'm not finding anything really.
[10:47] <kahrytan> normal drivers
[10:47] <|demortes|> afief: Normal, they worked great
[10:47] <eck> kahrytan: you can always propose ideas and try to convince other people to implement them ;-)
[10:47] <kahrytan> afief: I have that card and it works flawless.
[10:48] <sam_kaay> Is the "Ubuntu Server" that xchat connects to freenode?
[10:48] <MenZa> tom__: when I right click it, I have the option to go "About Adobe Flash Player 9"
[10:48] <tom__> MenZa: ok
[10:48] <Madpilot> sam_kaay, yes
[10:48] <afief> zerodal, |demortes| , kahrytan , thanks, I'm downloading and installing it now(the new restricted driver manager rocks!)
[10:49] <|demortes|> afief: Make sure you play around with beryl ;)
[10:49] <ahh> .
[10:49] <zeroda1> |demortes|: how do you get rid of the stupid fish
[10:49] <afief> |demortes|, sure thing:D I have it installed on my laptop, just got around convincing my family to install Ubuntu on the home desktop too
[10:49] <|demortes|> zeroda1: pkill gnome-panel
[10:50] <glick> hey i installed ubuntu restricted formats but still can't play dvds
[10:50] <|demortes|> zeroda1: Told ya to wait for it ;)
[10:50] <glick> how can i get dvd playback?
[10:50] <kahrytan> eck: Are you trying to get me to participate?  I'm not a fan of GPL.
[10:50] <Flannel> !dvd | glick
[10:50] <ubotu> glick: For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[10:50] <zeroda1> |demortes|: thanks
[10:50] <mjr> glick, sudo sh /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/install-css.sh
[10:50] <arooni> where can i get about 10 images ...... fast
[10:50] <arooni> random images...... i dont care about size
[10:51] <|demortes|> arooni: Another IRC room :P
[10:51] <Flannel> arooni: images.google.com
[10:51] <arooni> haha
[10:51] <kahrytan> eck: I love Linux. i just don't like the license.
[10:51] <|demortes|> arooni: http://images.google.com
[10:51] <arooni> i need these so fast
[10:51] <knp> someone have any ideas how to mount devices made @ chroot ?
[10:52] <JxMxL> hello i put ubuntu live cd while its booting, it froze on bus0
[10:52] <knp> mount -a doesnt work since i cant open my cdrom device
[10:52] <zeroda1> |demortes|: how do you do that?
[10:52] <JxMxL> any idea how to configure that
[10:52] <|demortes|> zeroda1: /me emote.
[10:52] <zeroda1> |demortes|: thanks
[10:53] <|demortes|> JxMxL: What do you mean? You put the disk in, boot it up, and it freezes at bus?
[10:53] <|demortes|> !grub
[10:53] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[10:53] <zeroda1> !botsnack
[10:53] <ubotu> Yum!
[10:54] <|demortes|> That bot seems useful :P
[10:54] <|demortes|> Anyone know if those guides say anything about updating GRUB and viewing it to make sure that it's on a specific device... I have a heck of a time trying to make sure that it's installed to my SATA instead of my IDE...
[10:54] <kahrytan> demortes: You don't know how useful. goto http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:55] <|demortes|> !ubotu
[10:55] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot.  Dell is including Linux on some of their machines, and it's gaining ground.
[10:57] <osfameron> MrOregon: probably for Desktop.  I'd still say that for Laptop there are a few rough edges (though I run it on mine)
[10:57] <kahrytan> MrOregon: Do you play games on Windows? If No, then it is viable. If you got ATI card, you might get headaches.
[10:57] <christine_> im customizing my ubuntu OS look. i have a modified my splash screen. but i want to change my background color. where is the setting for this?
[10:57] <gradin> is anyone else having crashes in feisty?
[10:57] <|demortes|> MrOregon: Just keep a copy of XP for games, unless all your games run well under WINE
[10:57] <MrOregon> I have an nvidia card
[10:57] <MrOregon> I do not play games
[10:57] <MrOregon> I play games on my consoles
[10:58] <glick> totem plays the dvd when i put it in the drive
[10:58] <MrOregon> but not on my PC
[10:58] <glick> but i want to play it with xine because i have access to all the menu options
[10:58] <zeroda1> MrOregon: nvidia works brilliant on ubuntu and no games is wonderful linux should be perfect for you
[10:58] <MrOregon> I came to this channel because I have heard much about Ubuntu
[10:58] <glick> but with xine i get an error mesage
[10:58] <|demortes|> christine_: You should be able to just right click on the desktop and play around with those settings
[10:58] <osfameron> MrOregon: if you've always used Windows, you will probably find that some stuff fits your expectations perfectly, some is much better than windows, and some stuff is frustrating.  I'd say give it a go, and see how you get on :-)
[10:58] <MrOregon> it seems to be the Linux distro that any idiot can use, and thus appropropriate for me
[10:58] <glick> the xine engine failed to start
[10:58] <MrOregon> my PC just fried my senior thesis
[10:58] <glick> no demuxer found
[10:59] <MrOregon> if I hadn't e-mailed it to my self an hour ago
[10:59] <glick> does anyone knwo what that means?
[10:59] <MrOregon> I would have lost 15 hours worth of work!
[10:59] <zeroda1> MrOregon: go ubuntu its wonderful
[10:59] <MrOregon> Never again
[10:59] <christine_> demortes: what do you mean?
[10:59] <|demortes|> MrOregon: Get an external/secondary HD? :P
[10:59] <glick> yeah MrOregon ubuntu is sweet
[10:59] <|demortes|> christine_: Just like windows, right click and click properties.
[10:59] <JxMxL> |demortes| yeah it freeses on probing pci hardware (bus00)
[10:59] <kahrytan> MrOregon: You should be find. Nvidia has good support. SOme games will work.Check out http://appdb.winehq.org/ for running Windows apps.
[10:59] <|demortes|> christine_: Can I assume GNOME?
[10:59] <glick> anyone have any luck getting xine dvd playback?
[10:59] <zeroda1> !enter | MrOregon
[10:59] <ubotu> MrOregon: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[11:00] <zeroda1> !repeat
[11:00] <ubotu> Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[11:00] <|demortes|> JxMxL: You can tell it not to probe. Hit F1 on reboot.
[11:00] <christine_> demortes: yes.
[11:00] <MrOregon> sorry about that, I do not often use IRC I forget that other people need to use the space, no more enter as punctuation
[11:00] <kerik> hey
[11:00] <MrOregon> does ubuntu come with an IRC client?
[11:00] <Zampiela> need some help guys with iptables, anyone?
[11:00] <MenZa> Yeah, X-Chat, MrOregon
[11:00] <zeroda1> christine_: right click on desktop and select change desktop backgrounf
[11:00] <valehru> MrOregon, yes...xchat
[11:01] <|demortes|> christine_: I'm afraid I'm in KDE right now, waiting on the upgrade, so I can't give you step by step, but I've done it. Just right click on the desktop, preferrences or something like that, and play around there.
[11:01] <kerik> zeroda1, hey again...I still get the same problem...
[11:01] <zeroda1> MrOregon: yeah gaim
[11:01] <zeroda1> kerik: gimme a min
[11:01] <valehru> gxine, !dvd
[11:01] <valehru> !dvd
[11:01] <kerik> zeroda1, for sure
[11:01] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[11:01] <gradin> |demortes|: have you had crash issues with kde & feisty?
[11:01] <|demortes|> gradin: Upgrading to Feisty right now, so ask me in a few days
[11:01] <kahrytan> MrOregon: X-Chat isn't installed by default but available to install.
[11:02] <christine_> demortes, zeroda1: i have tried that. my problem is when the splash screen in shown. the background is not what i want. i want to change that.
[11:02] <Zampiela> need some help guys with iptables, anyone?
[11:02] <|demortes|> christine_: Oh, the BG in the splash screen?
[11:02] <zeroda1> christine_: you cant as it is still loading that is why
[11:02] <kahrytan> Zampiela: Use Firestarter?
[11:02] <Zampiela> no
[11:03] <MrOregon> WOW ubuntu is downloading rather quickly, less than 20 minutes left! How long does it take to install, I might stay up and get it done tonight so I wont have to sleep with XP (the thesis killer) anymore
[11:03] <|demortes|> Sorry, the only IPTables I use are managed by ISPConfig
[11:03] <christine_> demortes, zeroda1: yes that is what  want to change. the color of the background while the splash screen is loading.
[11:03] <kahrytan> Zampiela: Firestarter and Guarddog both configure iptables.
[11:03] <Zampiela> ISPConfig?
[11:03] <|demortes|> christine_: Over my head, sorry
[11:03] <|demortes|> Zampiela: It's like Cpanel for ISP's and web hosts.
[11:03] <zeroda1> kerik: try sudo aptitude purge evolution then reinstall
[11:03] <Zampiela> I don't have a graphical environment
[11:03] <jhaig> MrOregon: Depends on your hardware.  An hour, maybe?
[11:04] <|demortes|> Zampiela: It is a web app
[11:04] <zeroda1> christine_: you cant
[11:04] <christine_> demortes: its ok. thanks! :)
[11:04] <Zampiela> I connect remotely via Vnc
[11:04] <kerik> zeroda1, just of curiosity...what does that do?
[11:04] <Zampiela> I can install ISPConfig via ssh?
[11:04] <|demortes|> Zampiela: So you have a graphical environment :P Yes
[11:04] <glick> hmm no sound in dvd playback
[11:04] <christine_> zeroda1: i have manage to change the splash screen. but the backgound color is the problem. :(
[11:04] <|demortes|> Zampiela: Just read the site. Ispconfig.org
[11:04] <Zampiela> I'll try it now
[11:05] <|demortes|> Alright everyone, cross your fingers
[11:05] <Zampiela> thanx
[11:05] <TuTuFF> anyone know if the problems with netowkr manager in feisty have been resolved?
[11:05] <|demortes|> Zampiela: What speed processor?
[11:05] <zeroda1> christine_: While there is a splash screen you cant change your desktop bkground
[11:05] <kahrytan> MrOregon: You should read up on libdvdcss2. It's the only way to play dvds on Linux. And to save headaches on videos, get VideoLAN. (vlc)
[11:05] <jhaig> TuTuFF: What is the problem with the network manager (I haven't upgraded my laptop yet and I would like to know)
[11:05] <zeroda1> christine_: it has to stay orange
[11:06] <pablasso1> any other way to open a ppt? i hate the bloated OO
[11:06] <glick> anyone know what that could be?
[11:06] <|demortes|> pablasso1: You might be able to download another program for it.
[11:06] <glick> that there is no sound?
[11:07] <Polis_ttt> glick: do you have a supported csoundcard?
[11:07] <TuTuFF> jhaig: when I tried feisty (kubuntu) I had an issue where I would lose connectivity totally .. when I bpounced the interfaces there was an error (something about rtNET file exists
[11:07] <zeroda1> !enter | glick
[11:07] <bluesky>
[11:07] <ubotu> glick: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[11:07] <pablasso1> demortes, which program?
[11:07] <glick> Polis_ttt, yeah and its playing the dvd really fast
[11:07] <Ohki> can anyone think of a reason why upgrading from edgy to feisty would cause a HUGE drop in response times system wide?
[11:07] <zeroda1> !zh | bluesky
[11:07] <glick> like at 2 times the normal speed
[11:07] <ubotu> bluesky: For Ubuntu help in Chinese  #ubuntu-cn  #ubuntu-tw   #ubuntu-hk
[11:07] <Ohki> it takes 15 sec to alt-tab now
[11:07] <bluesky> ok
[11:07] <TuTuFF> jhaig:  a little research showe dthis was a somewhat common problem, something to do with knetworkmanager (and maybe networkmanager) trying to use DHCP setttings even when static Ip[ was specified
[11:07] <bluesky> thank you
[11:07] <jhaig> Ohki: Are you using NFS?
[11:07] <akeripper> how do i connect to my osx machine?
[11:07] <zeroda1> bluesky: xiexie
[11:08] <zeroda1> akeripper: like via vnc
[11:08] <akeripper> how do i do that
[11:08] <Ohki> NFS?
[11:08] <jhaig> Network file system?
[11:08] <glick> ok never mind
[11:08] <glick> i got sound
[11:08] <glick> :)
[11:08] <Polis_ttt> glick: o haooy day
[11:09] <gradin> i've got some really bad crashes involving kde, xserv & the rest of the box crashing on me and need help...
[11:09] <jhaig> Ohki: Mounting a disk from a remote computer.  I had a problem with Feisty being incredibly slow to start certain applications and I found it was solved when I installed the nfs-common package, but this will only help if you have an NFS mounted disk.
[11:09] <|demortes|> omg, I really don't wanna wait 52 min for all these packages to be installed and whatnot.
[11:09] <zeroda1> akeripper: gimme a min
[11:09] <Ohki> oh, nope
[11:09] <gradin> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ is /var/log/syslog
[11:09] <|demortes|> gradin: You tried the recovery mode?
[11:10] <gradin> i'm up to rebooting every 4 hours or so due to hardlocking
[11:10] <Ohki> jhaig, i'm talking 15-20 sec to alt-tab between firefox and a terminal
[11:10] <Ohki> random slowdowns at random intervals
[11:10] <Ohki> even VIM is lagging sometimes now
[11:10] <pitar> hey bubbles
[11:10] <Ohki> all my disks are local
[11:10] <jhaig> Ohki: What is your hardware?  Processor speed, memory, etc.
[11:11] <bluesky> only 9 personMy God
[11:11] <|demortes|> bluesky: ?
[11:11] <gradin> |demortes|: not yet...
[11:11] <pitar> hat jemand de drauf
[11:11] <bluesky> ubuntu-ch
[11:12] <Ohki> 3.06 P4, 1GB, ATI 9700pro (could be it, but worked fine in edgy)
[11:12] <|demortes|> gradin: I would make sure that your computer isn't running processes that doesn't need to be run.
[11:12] <gradin> also i'm not sure if my /etc/apt/source.list is correct can anyone verify?
[11:12] <Zampiela> what programs are needed to install ISPConfig?
[11:12] <zeroda1> akeripper: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Feisty#How_to_connect_into_remote_Ubuntu_desktop_via_OSX
[11:12] <glick> sweet!!!!
[11:12] <glick> man ubuntu rocks
[11:12] <|demortes|> Zampiela: It lists it all on the website, if you want my help further, join #ispconfig/
[11:12] <zeroda1> bluesky: whats wrong?
[11:12] <jhaig> Ohki: No, that hardware is more than enough.  I'm afraid I don't know, then.
[11:12] <MrOregon> Can linux read CD's created in Windows? I mean generic data CD's, I have just backed up  all of my data to a CD and I need to know if I will be able to access it in Linux?
[11:12] <glick> i am amazed at how cool ubuntu + beryl + xgl is
[11:12] <zeroda1> MrOregon: of course
[11:12] <MrOregon> Sweet!
[11:12] <glick> it blows my mind away
[11:13] <jhaig> Ohki: Open a console and run top
[11:13] <Ohki> should xorg be using 99.3% of my CPU?
[11:13] <|demortes|> MrOregon: Any OS is to be expected to do that. CD's use their own filesystem.
[11:13] <zeroda1> MrOregon: have you checked out beryl yet?
[11:13] <christine_> zeroda1: its now orange in my ubuntu it is blue :(
[11:13] <GenKuzya> hi profies!
[11:13] <gradin> |demortes|: it isn't, its just running ktorrent and a console on kde
[11:13] <zeroda1> christine_: i dunno srry
[11:13] <flowingfire> Hey there everybody.... :)  If you want to have a little bit of fun, go to the terminal and type in "apt-get moo"
[11:13] <MrOregon> sorry for the seemingly dumb questions zeroda1, I just do not have experience with this OS at all, I am a lifelong Windows user
[11:13] <jhaig> Ohki: Hmmm, not really.
[11:13] <christine_> zeroda1: ok. np :)
[11:13] <|demortes|> gradin: I'm not familiar with ktorrent, but I know azaures in windows can take up a lot of memory...
[11:14] <jojo2024> Anyone else have segfault with samba-3.0.24 on FEISTY ?
[11:14] <zeroda1> MrOregon: np i asked q's like that when i first started
[11:14] <gradin> |demortes|: not true of ktorrent; light weight
[11:14] <zeroda1> MrOregon: have you see nberyl yet?
[11:14] <Ohki> think its a video card driver issue?
[11:14] <GenKuzya> ubuntu supports, can I ask you a question also?
[11:14] <zeroda1> *seen
[11:14] <Ohki> though, even w/o 2d accel, it shouldn't be this slow.. should it?
[11:14] <gradin> and before the last upgrade it was running fine, also the last upgrade killed beryl
[11:14] <glick> i have a question
[11:14] <gordonjcp> in Evolution, is there a way to save out an image embedded in an html email?
[11:15] <|demortes|> gradin: Beryl is really only eye candy, and high demand to where it will probably be updated
[11:15] <zeroda1> !ask | glick
[11:15] <gradin> i'm literally on the verge of backing up everything to the second hd and whiping the box
[11:15] <ubotu> glick: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[11:15] <glick> applications on other sides of the cube are not in the task bar on other sides of the cube?
[11:15] <|demortes|> gradin: Hey, don't feel bad, :P
[11:15] <MrOregon> Well I am a Moron, I accidently downloaded the AMD 64 bit version, time to start over :(
[11:15] <gradin> |demortes|: well i'm not worried about beryl right now
[11:15] <zeroda1> MrOregon: lol
[11:15] <gradin> |demortes|: i'd just like to be able to use my box for more than four hours with out it crashing
[11:15] <MrOregon> say is there a offtopic chat channel while I am downloading, I understand that this is a support channel
[11:15] <|demortes|> gradin: The wipe might be a good idea. Instead of grabbing at straws
[11:15] <GenKuzya> I have installed this ubuntu, first of all I have to say that I am just new, wanted to check that 3D desktop, what I have to do?!
[11:15] <foug> My  monitor keeps "clicking" as if it were just turned on. It's doing it every other minute or so. It never did this before. I put a new fan in my cop, turned it on, and now my monitor is doing this "clicking" business. anyone know what's going on?
[11:15] <|demortes|> !beryl
[11:15] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[11:16] <dimebar> MrOregon: #ubunut-offtopic
[11:16] <zeroda1> !offtopic | MrOregon
[11:16] <ubotu> MrOregon: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[11:16] <dimebar> MrOregon: #ubuntu-offtopic *
[11:16] <sanityx> I find it a bit funny that Mark Shuttleworth uses Kubuntu, not Ubuntu, on his desktop.
[11:16] <flowingfire> best commands: "apt-get moo" "aptitude moo" "aptitude -v moo" "aptitude -vv moo" "aptitude -vvv moo" "aptitude -vvvv moo" "aptitude -vvvvv moo" and so forth
[11:16] <zeroda1> sanityx: why?
[11:16] <sanityx> zeroda1: He doesn't use his own flagship product.
[11:17] <sanityx> On his desktop, anyway.
[11:17] <zeroda1> sanityx: kubuntu is just as good as ubuntu
[11:17] <sanityx> zeroda1: Could be. I've only used it on a laptop.
[11:17] <glick> thats strange
[11:17] <dimebar> just a gnome/kde thing; can't blame him for having poor taste :)
[11:17] <zeroda1> sanityx: its the same underneath (sort of) its just the window managers
[11:17] <mjr> IIRC Shuttleworth used one on desktop and one on laptop to keep on top of both
[11:18] <|demortes|> sanityx: To tell you the truth, Ubuntu and Kubuntu are the same, just different GUI's. I'm running Kubuntu now, but I could switch it to GNOME or Ubuntu easily. Also, honestly, I'm not sure I'd ever use any products I make unless I have to. THe mystery is gone :P
[11:18] <mjr> but I'm not sure, and it's not very important either :]
[11:18] <sanityx> zeroda1: Yes thats true, but I like the gtk apps that come with ubuntu more than I like the Qt apps that come with kubuntu
[11:18] <MrOregon> Is ubuntu easy to install?
[11:18] <|demortes|> sanityx: I just installed Ubuntu Ultimate, I love it.
[11:18] <zeroda1> sanityx: i prefer digikam, amarok and kooka to thier gtk counterparts
[11:18] <|demortes|> MrOregon: If you're doing a single boot, without question.
[11:18] <sanityx> mm
[11:18] <mjr> MrOregon, yes, if your hardware is properly supported
[11:19] <glick> how can i show all open apps on the task bar on all sides?
[11:19] <zeroda1> sanityx: oh and k3b
[11:19] <sanityx> MrOregon: About as easy as linux gets.
[11:19] <kraut> moin
[11:19] <|demortes|> zeroda1: Amarok is in Gnome too
[11:19] <|demortes|> zeroda1: Hrm, well in both.
[11:19] <sanityx> In terms of functionality, the Qt apps may be superior. But theres something about the look and feel of Qt apps in general that I just don't like.
[11:19] <zeroda1> |demortes|: i know im running gnome know
[11:19] <Trist_an> Soemone would have a little time to help me a bash script. The script is working fine, but I want to pass it options and I don't manage to do this even after looking at advanced bash scripting guide and so on
[11:19] <sluimers> Every single pacage I can get from aptitude or SPM is now untrusted on my computer, why is that?
[11:19] <sluimers> *package
[11:19] <dimebar> |demortes|: i don't like running KDE apps in Gnome and vice versa
[11:19] <zeroda1> sanityx: i thinks it cause theyre more crowded and less refined
[11:20] <glick> my desktops are like unconnected for some reason
[11:20] <sanityx> zeroda1: Exactley.
[11:20] <|demortes|> dimebar: I'm too new to tell the difference :P I just run them, and cry if they don't work.
[11:20] <sanityx> The buttons are kinda bland looking.
[11:20] <glick> ths bothers me i think i jsut undid a setting but i cant remimber what :(
[11:20] <|demortes|> dimebar: Sorta like mythTV, but I don't have a tv capture card. :P
[11:20] <hdxx> zeroda1: i think if you run kde apps on gnome, it works slower
[11:20] <zeroda1> hdxx: not really
[11:21] <dimebar> zeroda1: well its more memory intensive; it would be slower on older hardware
[11:21] <foug> having trouble killing a file, someone please help me quick. It's eating up my resources (it's a game)
[11:21] <MrOregon> I am getting paranoid, IE7 just crashed in the middle of my Ubuntu download :(
[11:21] <foug> killing a process i men
[11:21] <foug> mean
[11:21] <|demortes|> foug: kill -SIGKILL <pid>
[11:21] <zeroda1> MrOregon: thats gonna happen its a large file use a download manager i used free download manager
[11:21] <foug> |demortes|: what is <pid>?
[11:21] <|demortes|> foug: There is always a reboot also :P PID is the number listed in "ps aux"
[11:21] <glick> does anyone know what im talking about?
[11:21] <Madpilot> MrOregon, ick. Do yourself a favour - get Opera or Firefox first. That way, even if you stick with Windows, you have a real browser.
[11:22] <MrOregon> oh it just froze, I am going to close this program while it downloads, I will see you all again once I get Ubuntu installed
[11:22] <|demortes|> Madpilot: No joke there
[11:22] <hdxx> MrOregon: download torrent
[11:22] <foug> |demortes|: ahh it worked, you da man. Can you explain -SIGKILL please?
[11:22] <foug> |demortes|: i was trying kill <pid> by itself and it wasn't working
[11:22] <|demortes|> foug: A program can choose to ignore the "sighup", the default KILL. SIGKILL is not ignorable.
[11:22] <foug> |demortes|: cool, thanks
[11:23] <baris_> hm
[11:23] <glick> when i cycle through open programs it only shows the programs on that side of the cube
[11:23] <zeroda1> glick: go to beryl settings you can change it
[11:23] <chx> sorry. launchpad is offline so I can't check. What's the current status of using the alternate iso to install w/ jmicron controller? I already found that the live cd won't fly
[11:23] <Zampiela> |demortes| I'm trying to install ispconfig (Checking for MTA.. ERROR: Your system configuration is not compatible with ISPConfig! The installation routine stops here!)
[11:24] <knp> Someone know how can i mount my cdrom
[11:24] <knp> ?
[11:24] <|demortes|> Zampiela: You got all the pre-reqs?
[11:24] <Zampiela> what? I'm noob with linux distributions
[11:24] <glick> zeroda1, where in beryl settings?
[11:24] <flowingfire> Hey everybody-- for a little fun in GNOME, press alt-F2 and type "free the fish"
[11:24] <erUSUL> knp: it should have benn mounted automatically
[11:25] <zeroda1> glick: dunno somewhere, look
[11:25] <|demortes|> Zampiela: Then you don't want to touch ISPConfig. That's more for a web host. You really should look at some of the firewall management systems available with a GUI
[11:25] <knp> erusul yes but i made chroot and now have to mount the cd rom
[11:25] <knp> erusul but cant ...
[11:25] <Zampiela> but how can I run Firestarter via Vnc?
[11:25] <nuked_omen> if i grab all the packages in the /var/cache/apt/archives folder, will i be able to install them on another offline machine?
[11:25] <flowingfire> press alt-F2, then type "free the fish"
[11:25] <PriceChild> !info aptoncd | nuked_omen
[11:25] <ubotu> nuked_omen: aptoncd: CD-based repository creator for packages downloaded via APT. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.1-0ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 169 kB, installed size 1144 kB
[11:26] <Zampiela> |demortes| but how can I run Firestarter via Vnc?
[11:26] <kairu0> nuked_omen, yes
[11:26] <|demortes|> Zampiela: Open a console and time firestarter
[11:26] <nuked_omen> thanks
[11:26] <A_I_> how can I do "rpm -qi" with apt ?
[11:26] <|demortes|> Correction, quick way do a alt+f2, type "sudo firestarter"
[11:27] <PriceChild> A_I_, we don't use rpm packages on ubuntu
[11:27] <Zampiela> |demortes| I'll try now
[11:27] <MenZa> !alien | A_I_
[11:27] <ubotu> A_I_: RPM is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu uses !APT, not RPM. RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous)
[11:27] <kairu0> A_I_, what does -qi do?
[11:27] <MenZa> Quickinstall?
[11:28] <A_I_> ubotu I know, that's why I ask this question ....
[11:28] <Juhaz> "query information"
[11:28] <glick> damn this is driving me crazy now!
[11:28] <MenZa> A_I_: ubotu is a bot
[11:28] <MenZa> !ubotu
[11:28] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[11:28] <A_I_> kairu0 it gives information on installed packages
[11:28] <kairu0> anyone recommend their laptop as ubuntu friendly?
[11:28] <mjr> A_I_, apt-cache show packagename
[11:28] <neoj_> A_I_: dpkg -i perhaps? i dont know what the rpm command does
[11:28] <Juhaz> roughly equivalent to dpkg -s
[11:28] <mjr> A_I_, oh, installed packages; dpkg -l perhaps?
[11:28] <A_I_> kairu0 a bit like dpkg --info *.deb but for installed packeges
[11:29] <|demortes|> Zampiela: Looks like you need to open a terminal for it, cause it's gonna ask for a password or something...
[11:29] <foug> how do i know what's making the noise in my computer? i just put a new fan in and I think it's just the fan, but i'm not sure
[11:29] <PriceChild> A_I_, So you want the apt equivalent?
[11:29] <erUSUL> knp: mount -t iso9660 /dev/cdrom /mount/point
[11:29] <erUSUL> ?
[11:29] <A_I_> mjr dpkg -I installs packages
[11:29] <|demortes|> foug: Put your ear to it, see where it's coming from.
[11:29] <A_I_> PriceChild  yes
[11:29] <foug> |demortes|: hard to tell, i tried
[11:29] <PriceChild> A_I_, "dpkg --get-selections" i think
[11:29] <|demortes|> foug: Approx where is it? Fan, CD ROM, HDD?
[11:30] <knp> erusul doesnt work
[11:30] <A_I_> PriceChild no
[11:30] <erUSUL> knp: any error?
[11:30] <PriceChild> A_I_, that lists everything?
[11:30] <A_I_> PriceChild it gives only a very short status
[11:30] <flowingfire> anybody here have a clue why wine won't install correctly for me in ubuntu?  I've used automax, adept, symantic, and apt-get.  No luck.
[11:30] <knp> erusul mount: mount point /mount/point does not exist
[11:30] <PriceChild> A_I_, how do you mean? They're either installed or not?
[11:30] <nuked_omen> flowingfire: lack of luck
[11:30] <foug> |demortes|: hard to tell when i get up close, but somewhere in the back
[11:30] <flowingfire> nuked_omen lol
[11:30] <A_I_> I want the equivalent for "dpkg --info <pack<.deb" for *installed* packages
[11:31] <sanityx> sudo fluxcapacitor --fix
[11:31] <|demortes|> foug: Check your power supply.
[11:31] <glick> i dont think its in the beryl manager
[11:31] <foug> |demortes|: how?
[11:31] <foug> |demortes|: it sounds like a washing machine, it's a really weird noise.
[11:31] <A_I_> like to get build date, changelog, maintainer, short desc of the package etc.
[11:31] <foug> |demortes|: like something is dragging
[11:32] <foug> |demortes|: is there a way to check is my power supply is using too much of it's power?
[11:32] <glick> ok i got it
[11:32] <glick> thanks
[11:32] <PriceChild> A_I_, I'm not sure that's possible without scripting
[11:32] <ian__> oh man
[11:32] <ian__> ubuntu frustrates me
[11:32] <A_I_> i've found it
[11:32] <ian__> but dlink and all the companies that dont make linux drivers for their shit
[11:32] <PriceChild> A_I_, really? where?
[11:32] <A_I_> "rpm -qi" == "dpkg -s"
[11:32] <ian__> frustrate me even more
[11:32] <PriceChild> !ohmy | ian__
[11:32] <ubotu> ian__: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[11:32] <knp> erusul when i try mount cdrom "mount: can't find cdrom in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab
[11:32] <knp> "
[11:33] <ian__> D:
[11:33] <A_I_> "rpm -qi <package_name>" == "dpkg -s <package_name>"
[11:33] <Zampiela> |demortes| I'm trying to install some depositories, but it can't find them. It doesn't connect to ubuntu servers, it connects to another server to find the repositories, but it can't find them there. How can I change that?
[11:33] <PriceChild> A_I_, oh so you only wanted it for one package? :)
[11:33] <A_I_> "dpkg -s <package_name>" == "dpkg --info  <package>.deb"
[11:33] <ian__> fammily friendly? are you implying someone's sister uses not only ubuntu but also goes on irc?
[11:33] <ian__> first of all
[11:33] <|demortes|> foug: I know the first time I put together a computer I had my power cable for my HDD actually hitting the spinning fan blades, check for that
[11:33] <ian__> no girls on thei nternet
[11:33] <ian__> second of all
[11:33] <ian__> you're just crazy
[11:33] <|demortes|> Zampiela: Update your sources.lst.
[11:33] <foug> |demortes|: good call, brb
[11:33] <PriceChild> !guidelines > ian__ (see the pm from ubotu)
[11:34] <jojo2024> A_I_ : for pak in `dpkg -l |  awk -F " " '{print $2}'` do ... :)
[11:34] <fsd234> hey, im trying to install ubuntu but after the install disc loads the desktop my (ps/2) keyboard and mouse become unresponsive
[11:34] <ian__> oh god
[11:34] <ian__> irc has guidelines?
[11:34] <ian__> since when?
[11:34] <c0nf> ye, i have the same prob :x
[11:34] <ian__> you're overwhelming me
[11:34] <Zampiela> |demortes| I'm trying to install some depositories, but it can't find them. It doesn't connect to ubuntu servers, it connects to another server to find the repositories, but it can't find them there. How can I change that?
[11:34] <|demortes|> ian__: Channels have guidelines. We're here for the betterment of the community, not so you can swear and offend people.
[11:34] <PriceChild> ian__, If you do not want to abide by these "common sense" guidelines then please leave.
[11:35] <|demortes|> Zampiela: Edit your /etc/apt/sources.lst
[11:35] <ian__> PriceChild wait wait i have to wrap my head around these rules
[11:35] <ian__> -reads-
[11:35] <MenZa> !rules
[11:35] <ubotu> The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[11:35] <Zampiela> edit to what?
[11:35] <MenZa> ;P
[11:35] <kerik> hey guys
[11:35] <|demortes|> Zampiela: Just comment any third party repositories.
[11:35] <c0nf> oh, cmon ladies... there must be at least 1 person with the same problem :(
[11:35] <kerik> anybody who can help me out with an evolution problem?
[11:36] <A_I_> we have serious problems with samba
[11:36] <kerik> c0nf, what's your hurdle?
[11:36] <|demortes|> c0nf: I don't even see you stating your probelm.
[11:36] <A_I_> many samba servers gets crashed
[11:36] <c0nf> same as fsd234's
[11:36] <c0nf> [12:04:16 PM]  <fsd234> hey, im trying to install ubuntu but after the install disc loads the desktop my (ps/2) keyboard and mouse become unresponsive
[11:36] <A_I_> with feisty and samba 3.0.24
[11:36] <c0nf> plus the lights at caps lock, num lock etc
[11:36] <c0nf> doesn't even work :x
[11:36] <|demortes|> Get a USB and stop using outdated technology :P
[11:36] <kerik> c0nf, which version? Feisty?
[11:36] <c0nf> yup
[11:37] <A_I_> where do we have to send warnings ?
[11:37] <A_I_> to maintainer ?
[11:37] <A_I_> samba mailing list ?
[11:37] <|demortes|> !bugs
[11:37] <ubotu> If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.ubuntu.com/  -  Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/products/ubuntu-bots
[11:37] <daxxar> Why does xrandr -q only show 1024x768?
[11:37] <c0nf> hm
[11:37] <|demortes|> If it's package specific, maintainer would be best.
[11:38] <daxxar> My xorg.conf has entries for 1024x768 800x600 640x480
[11:38] <kerik> anybody who can help me out with a mail issue?
[11:38] <c0nf> so you say i should try usb? :p
[11:38] <c0nf> first i neeb to find ps2 -> usb :p
[11:38] <kerik> c0nf, yeah...USB works natively
[11:38] <daxxar> http://p.caboo.se/57022
[11:38] <ravigr8> i want to set up server on my edgy anyone please tell me how to do that?
[11:39] <Nameeater> a server for what?
[11:39] <c0nf> okay, gonna try usb
[11:39] <c0nf> thanks guys
[11:39] <daxxar> Paste updated: http://p.caboo.se/57022
[11:39] <Nameeater> webpages? ftp? ssh?
[11:39] <ravigr8> webpages
[11:39] <kerik> .xsession-errors? - anybody?
[11:39] <|demortes|> ravigr8: Dedicated, or just wanting to play with PHP/HTML?
[11:39] <A_I_> |demortes| it seems to be specific to ubuntu, but maintainer is "Debian Samba Maintainers"
[11:39] <Parmenion> ok, hi people
[11:39] <ravigr8> play
[11:40] <A_I_> so is it realy him ?
[11:40] <Zampiela> |demortes| I commented the lines that leads to the other server, I typed sudo apt-get install firestarter and it can't find the package
[11:40] <arasu> When i upgraded by the terminal  about 300 files then real player was added in the add/remove store then upgraded by the update manager upgrades more than five hours my 'skype is not working and realplayer is missing in the list any one can help?
[11:40] <|demortes|> Zampiela: After editing sources.lst, type "apt-get update"
[11:40] <fsd234> [11:38]  <kerik> c0nf, yeah...USB works natively
[11:40] <fsd234> then why does the ps2 keyboard work at the text installation menu ?
[11:40] <|demortes|> A_I_: I would say Ubuntu then, but make sure it does state it is with this package
[11:40] <fsd234> and not at the live cd desktop part ?
[11:40] <foug> |demortes|: is it bad to have a fan blowing RIGHT onto my hard drive?
[11:40] <ravigr8> i just wanna learn
[11:41] <|demortes|> foug: No, cools the HDD down. Sometimes needed
[11:41] <kerik> fsd234, it's a good question....
[11:41] <foug> |demortes|: hmmm, would you say it's normal to have a lot of heat being produced from my comp? i stick my face to the back and i can feel the heat
[11:41] <foug> |demortes|: never bothered to see if it was noticable before, so i'm not sure if this is new or not
[11:41] <kerik> fsd234, however I have seen some rather cute messups with ps2 in feisty
[11:41] <|demortes|> foug: The normal CPU runs at 120+ F. Heat is normal.
[11:42] <A_I_> |demortes| but informations from package don't give me an ubuntu maintainer, only a debian one
[11:42] <lajser> the powersuply generate heat
[11:42] <kerik> fsd234, I use thinkpad and my ps2 mouse (the trackpoint) goes up in smoke every now and again
[11:42] <|demortes|> A_I_: When you file the bug report, it will ask you to be specific to the package, just insert it there.
[11:42] <foug> |demortes|: k i still hear the noise everynow and then, it sounds like a....washing machine?
[11:43] <|demortes|> foug: Do you have a CD in the drive?
[11:43] <foug> |demortes|: nope
[11:43] <ravigr8> |demortes| : tell me how to set up server
[11:43] <Zampiela> |demortes| I typed apt-get update, then sudo apt-get install firestarter, but it still can't find the package
[11:43] <|demortes|> ravigr8: Download apache (apt-get install apache shoudl do it)
[11:43] <|demortes|> Zampiela: OK, give me a second
[11:43] <doomster> hello ppl
[11:44] <lajser> hello
[11:44] <|demortes|> foug: Open yoru comp up, verify that the fan is not hitting anything, and make sure there are no loose connections that might get near it.
[11:44] <oldude67> do they have a list of channels?
[11:44] <kerik> ok skilled friends of the Ubuntu...there must be someone here who can help me fix my Evolution Mail Client?
[11:44] <ravigr8> |demortes| what is samba?
[11:44] <foug> |demortes|: tjere osm
[11:44] <foug> t. o cam see frp, jere
[11:44] <foug> |demortes|: there isn't, i can see from here
[11:44] <doomster> i have a problem... i was using w ine to run WoW with no problems till yesturday... since then, after 5 minutes of gaming,pc crashes. is there a log file to find the source of the problem?
[11:45] <foug> |demortes|: yea it sounds like something scratching something...
[11:45] <Zampiela> of course man, sorry for this, you are being bombardized by many questions
[11:45] <|demortes|> ravigr8: Samba is a type of server that will allow sharing of files between windows and linux
[11:45] <kerik> Zampiela, you did mean sudo apt-get update right?
[11:45] <Zampiela> yes
[11:45] <kerik> Zampiela, hmm...
[11:45] <|demortes|> foug: The only moving parts in there are fans and the HDD (and ODD)
[11:46] <Zampiela> it says "E: Some index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old ones used instead.
[11:46] <Zampiela> "
[11:46] <foug> |demortes|: brb
[11:46] <ravigr8>   |demortes|: is there any *.deb file location to download apache coz i dont have working internet in my ubuntu
[11:46] <|demortes|> Zampiela: http://archive.ubuntu.com feisty/universe Packages
[11:46] <|demortes|> Tha'ts the repository it's in
[11:47] <kerik> Zampiela, have you tried running the "sudo apt-get update" once more?
[11:47] <Trist_an> I've done a bash script with a getopts and in this I have put a  * ) echo $usage; exit 1;; but it doesn't give the usage output if no option is given to script. Why is that?
[11:47] <|demortes|> ravigr8: You can download the binaries and transfer any way you like.
[11:47] <Zampiela> |kerik| yes
[11:47] <A_I_> |demortes| where can I fill a bug report ?
[11:47] <daxxar> Okay, so - basically I've got an i810 chipset graphics-adapter on this laptop. Checking xrandr, Xorg.0.log and xorg.conf - I have this: http://p.caboo.se/57022 - why does it say "No mode of this name"?
[11:47] <doomster> anyone can tell me if system crashes are logged in any file  , in ubuntu feisty 7.04?
[11:48] <|demortes|> doomster: Syslog is where I'd start.
[11:48] <kerik> Zampiela, then check out the repos Demortes gave you...and put that in your sources.list
[11:49] <Zampiela> kerik : I didn't put anything in the sources.list, I only commented some lines
[11:49] <kerik> doomster, other than the Syslog --> .xsession-errors
[11:49] <|demortes|> Zampiela: http://archive.ubuntu.com feisty/universe Packages
[11:49] <kerik> Zampiela, ok
[11:49] <|demortes|> put that one in there
[11:49] <|demortes|> if it isn't already
[11:49] <doomster> |demortes|,  and what am i looking for in syslog? for warnings ??
[11:49] <doomster> |demortes|, sorry i am such a noob :P
[11:49] <kerik> Zampiela, and after putting it in there, update your apt-get
[11:50] <|demortes|> doomster: Warnings, errors.
[11:50] <|demortes|> doomster: Don't worry, I'm learning also.
[11:50] <kerik> seriously!...nobody here ever had problems with Evolution?
[11:50] <|demortes|> kerik: I use thunderbird, sorry.
[11:51] <aleix> kerik: only accessing LDAP directories...
[11:51] <kerik> |demortes|, well...maybe I should too....the thing is that it shuts down when I open it...
[11:51] <doomster> |demortes|,  the only warning-error was <WARNING>^I nm_dbus_get_networks_cb (): error received: org.freedesktop.NetworkManagerInfo.NoNetworks - There are no wireless networks stored..
[11:51] <Zampiela> kerik : should I downloaded feisty package, i have Ubuntu Desktop 6.06_LTS
[11:51] <Zampiela> ?
[11:52] <kerik> Zampiela, ohh....that may change things...
[11:52] <|demortes|> doomster: You did say that the game crashes in Wine? I'd check for any log files for wine, and go from there.
[11:52] <kerik> Zampiela, wouldn't recommend using feisty stuff on Dapper
[11:52] <|demortes|> Zampiela: Ditto.
[11:52] <Zampiela> that's whyt I'm asking
[11:52] <|demortes|> Zampiela: You can try putting dapper instead of feisty.
[11:52] <doomster> kerik,  where will i find .xsession-errors ?? :}
[11:52] <Zampiela> ok I'll try
[11:52] <dps> Hey
[11:53] <kerik> doomster, in the home dir
[11:53] <|demortes|> doomster: type sudo updatedb and locate <filename> ;)
[11:53] <dps> Anyone as a link to a 2.6.21 deb file?
[11:53] <dps> Got some irq problems here
[11:53] <kerik> doomster, terminal --> ls -a
[11:53] <doomster> |demortes|,  i checked .wine\ folder  for any error logs, but there was only the conf file
[11:54] <|demortes|> doomster: I've only used wine once, so I'd just be using google to help you.
[11:54] <doomster> |demortes|,  ok i can do this too :) ty
[11:54] <kandala> Hi all, I installed linux-k7-smp kernel on my Compaq AMD laptop. My wireless stopped working. Can someone help fix this please....
[11:54] <kerik> doomster, terminal -> ls -a --> sudo gedit .xsession-errors
[11:55] <doomster> kerik found it ty:)
[11:56] <kerik> doomster, :)
[11:56] <|demortes|> I really hope that the updater is mistakingly stating updating to "6.10"
[11:56] <kerik> |demortes|, updating to edgy?
[11:56] <|demortes|> kerik: I was under the impression it was to Feisty
[11:57] <kerik> |demortes|, well...to update to Feisty you must go through Edgy
[11:57] <doomster> lol omg kerik  no timestamps on .xsession-errors
[11:57] <kerik> doomster, nope....the bottom is the newest
[11:57] <|demortes|> kerik: Oh god kill me now, once I update to that, I'll just let it run while I sleep, cause it's 5am and I work at 12pm
[11:57] <jhaig> |demortes|: Upgrading from edgy?  If you are upgrading from dapper I think it needs to do two upgrades, to edgy first and then to feisty.
[11:57] <kerik> |demortes|, WEHAA!! :)
[11:57] <|demortes|> jhaig: I thought Ubuntu Ultimate was already at 6.10 *shrugs*
[11:58] <jhaig> I've not heard of Ubuntu Ultimate.
[11:58] <MrOregon> hello
[11:58] <kerik> |demortes|, must admit I cannot really recommend updating...
[11:58] <|demortes|> It's Kubuntu + LOTS of Extras
[11:58] <kerik> |demortes|, I had so many problems when I did update, that I started uver
[11:58] <MrOregon> This is amazing I am installing Ubuntu, but it will let me talk on IRC while it installs
[11:59] <kerik> any hardcore Ubuntu users here today?
[11:59] <|demortes|> kerik: I didn't feel like trying to install the packages one by one, but I'm starting to think it might have better, besides I think I need x64 if I want to take advantage of the HT on my processor
[11:59] <MrOregon> I am brand new to Ubuntu,  this very night I have decided to renounce windows, which made an earnest attempt to nuke my year long thesis project
[11:59] <lajser> Im trying to save some resultion changes in xorg.conf but it whant let me. Any sugestions ?
[12:00] <rubbs> I've been using it for about 7 months now
[12:00] <Zampiela> kerik : I added  (deb http://archive.ubuntu.com dapper universe Packages, and the same with deb-src), but still nothing
[12:00] <PriceChild> !sudo | lajser
[12:00] <ubotu> lajser: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[12:00] <PloneDudez> Hi guys, does anyone know how i can connect to shared windows folder from ubuntu command line...
[12:00] <lajser> thanks m8
[12:00] <arcsky> yoyo, i lost my rootpassword and how do i get it back ? ;)
[12:00] <kerik> |demortes|, that may be right....it just sucks to update...or well..that's my experience...
[12:00] <dac> ubotu, installed all the upgrades of ubuntu 6.06 LTS,does that mean I now have 6.10 (Edgy Eft)?
[12:00] <|demortes|> kerik: Takes too long.
[12:00] <brutopia> dac: no
[12:00] <Zampiela> kerik : I added  (deb http://archive.ubuntu.com dapper universe Packages, and the same with deb-src into sources.list), but still nothing
[12:01] <kerik> Zampiela, hmmm...
[12:01] <dac> ok ,ty
[12:01] <brutopia> you would have to change your user apt repositories to feisty and then upgrade
[12:01] <brutopia> user -> used
[12:01] <|demortes|> brutopia: He's not using feisty, using dapper.
[12:01] <Hardin> PloneDudez: If you want just wan to connect, not mount, smbclient will do the trick. I'm not sure if it is installed by default.
[12:01] <brutopia> edgy I meant
[12:02] <kerik> Zampiela, hate to having to ask..but what was it you were trying to install?
[12:02] <|demortes|> kerik: Firestarter
[12:02] <Zampiela> yes
[12:02] <Zampiela> firestarter
[12:02] <PloneDudez> Hardin: Actually I want to transfer some files from Windows shared folder to my Ubuntu from a command line...can I do this wit smbclient
[12:02] <kerik> Zampiela, let me just check..
[12:03] <Hardin> PloneDudez: Yes
[12:03] <|demortes|> Alright, folks, I'm out of here. Gonna get this update finished, see if it boots. If not, I wont be happy :P
[12:03] <squee> PloneDudez, type man smbclient, that is how i read up on it
[12:03] <kerik> Zampiela, hmm...here I can download it no sweat
[12:03] <Zampiela> the problem is that I connect via ssh, and I open some programs, but they don't communicate with Internet. The ports I'm using are forwaded just fine
[12:04] <dac> brutopia, you know ubotu?
[12:04] <brutopia> no, why?
[12:04] <PloneDudez> Hardin: thanks dudes
[12:04] <Zampiela> so there's some problem with iptables, right?
[12:04] <doomster> lol check this out
[12:04] <kerik> nobody here who know about .xsession-errors???
[12:04] <ProfessorOhki> it WAS a video driver issue
[12:04] <skar> hi, i've got a core2duo with 4 GB ram, i've set 4 GB memory model, but kernel sees only 3 GB, if I enable 64 GB, PAE is enabled, but kernel hangs while booting, any one have any idea?
[12:04] <ProfessorOhki> things are running normally again
[12:05] <brutopia> dac: ubotu is a bot
[12:05] <ProfessorOhki> thanks for trying to help :)
[12:05] <doomster> for future reference, to log wine  you use "wine app.exe >& error.log"
[12:05] <dac> I just thought, I nornally get info from the ubotu
[12:05] <doomster> it runs app.exe and logs the errors
[12:05] <dac> ok, what is a bot?
[12:05] <squee> !bot
[12:05] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[12:06] <brutopia> it's a computer script
[12:06] <kerik> dac, a serverside info-bot
[12:06] <foug> does audacious have an equalizer and playlist tabs?
[12:06] <systems> a bot is short for irc robot
[12:06] <brutopia> didn't you know you were talking with a script? :D
[12:06] <Zampiela> any suggestions?
[12:06] <YNWA> hi, could someone help with writing to NTFS?
[12:06] <dac> so much i don't know.
[12:06] <YNWA> (NtFS partition)
[12:06] <kerik> dac, it will tell you answers to things you ask it using ! in front of question
[12:06] <kerik> !bot | dac
[12:06] <ubotu> dac: I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[12:07] <doomster> kerik,  i managed to log wine, running wow.exe . what does an error like err:wgl:ConvertPixelFormatWGLtoGLX invalid iPixelFormat 0    mean?
[12:07] <nuked_omen> how can i create a shortcut to a folder on the desktop?
[12:07] <kerik> doomster, hehe...suppose it's not good ;)
[12:08] <dac> kerik,ubotu, thanks.
[12:08] <kerik> doomster, no seriously...sounds like a problem in compatibility
[12:08] <bezibaerch3n> what is to be installed for dvd-playback?
[12:08] <kerik> dac, just so you know....the bot hasn't got feelings :)
[12:08] <squee> bezibaerch3n, libdvdcss2, or vlc
[12:08] <bezibaerch3n> thx squee
[12:08] <dac> ok
[12:09] <squee> np
[12:09] <nuked_omen> !shortcut
[12:09] <ubotu> Keyboard shortcuts can be set in System -> Preferences -> Keyboard Shortcuts (Gnome) or "Input Actions" in KControl (KDE). If your multimedia keys don't work with that, try keytouch - http://keytouch.sourceforge.net
[12:09] <nuked_omen> !links
[12:09] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about links - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:09] <Zampiela> I connect to my server via ssh from my desktop. I installed vnc4server and it runs fine. I connect to my server via Vnc viewer. I run some programs with wine, but they don't download anything from the internet.. firefox is running fine. So I think it is a problem with firestarter, right? Ports are forwaded just fine. Please guys some help..
[12:09] <squee> !lynx
[12:09] <ubotu> Browsers available for Linux: Firefox (GTK, Gecko engine), Konqueror (KDE/Qt, KHTML engine), Epiphany (GTK, Gecko engine), Dillo (GTK), Links2 (terminal-based or graphical, see !man page), Opera (Qt, proprietary)  -  HTTP servers: apache2
[12:09] <doomster> kerik,  i am usen opengl to run wow, as d3d is not really supported by wine... yesturday i tried to apt--get OpenGL Python bindings and the GtkGLExt Python bindings.
[12:09] <doomster> in order to run 3d chess
[12:09] <bezibaerch3n> squee: hmm, where to get it for feisty?
[12:09] <nuked_omen> no, i wanna place a shortcut to a folder on my desktop
[12:10] <kerik> doomster, sounds like GLX doesn't like the openGL...
[12:10] <Zampiela> I connect to my server via ssh from my desktop. I installed vnc4server and it runs fine. I connect to my server via Vnc viewer. I run some programs with wine, but they don't download anything from the internet.. firefox is running fine. So I think it is a problem with firestarter, right? Ports are forwaded just fine. Please guys some help..
[12:10] <kerik> doomster, though I must say that I have no experience with it...
[12:10] <squee> bezibaerch3n, it is in the restricted repositories i believe... i haven't tested this, but with fiesty it should try to install any needed codecs for any video, so if you try to play a dvd doesn't it try to install the codecs?
[12:10] <squee> !libdvdcss2
[12:10] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[12:10] <doomster> kerik,  is there a way to find out what exact packages were installed with apt-get, and remove them?
[12:10] <systems> concerning server vs desktop ubuntu, aside the default install, is there much difference, i mean can't i just install all the db servers i want on a desktop ubuntu?
[12:10] <weas3l> wee! finally, ubuntu is kinda working on my laptop!
[12:10] <doomster> kerik,  maby a log file of apt-get
[12:11] <nuked_omen> i installed all the codecs that fiesty suggested
[12:11] <squee> weas3l, Yay for kinda!
[12:11] <kerik> doomster, maybe...or maybe .xsession-errors
[12:11] <rubbs> weas3l: what isn't working?
[12:11] <weas3l> squee: indeed, i'm having trouble getting my unichrome vidcard to work with anything other than the vesa driver
[12:11] <bezibaerch3n> squee: ok, will try that
[12:11] <nuked_omen> you got nvidia?
[12:12] <snap2> i need help no sound,  yet feisty seems to think there is.
[12:12] <weas3l> no, ati S3
[12:12] <nuked_omen> snap2: check the volume control?
[12:13] <nuked_omen> weas3l: did you try the restricted drivers manager?
[12:13] <squee> weas3l, it's an ati s3? or via unichrome
 volum control all the way up
[12:13] <doomster> kerik,  xsession-errors onlly shows Window manager warning: Treating resize request of legacy application 0x3400001 (World of W) as a fullscreen request
[12:13] <doomster>  nothing else
[12:13] <nuked_omen> snap2: try another audio format
[12:13] <Zampiela> I connect to my server via ssh from my desktop. I installed vnc4server and it runs fine. I connect to my server via Vnc viewer. I run some programs with wine, but they don't download anything from the internet.. firefox is running fine. So I think it is a problem with firestarter, right? Ports are forwaded just fine. Please guys some help..
[12:13] <kerik> doomster, hmm..
[12:14] <SubOne> is there a way to get a process to start outputing to a new console window i've opened?
[12:14] <kerik> doomster, I'm blanck
[12:14] <Zampiela> kerik need some help mate..
its not a format isse ......theres no sound no system sounds no nothing
[12:14] <squee> Zambezi, I recommend just using straight ip tables... I've had too many problems using firestarter.  If you want to test if it is firestarter... stop it from running then test it
[12:14] <doomster> to uninstal something using apt-get its "sudo apt-get autoremove " right?
[12:15] <squee> doomster, no, sudo apt-get remove <pkg>
[12:15] <Zampiela> can I remove completely iptables?
[12:16] <squee> Zambezi, i suppose, but i wouldn't recommend it
[12:16] <ian__> apt-get remove iptables
[12:16] <PleegWat> I've been trying to set a couple of extra keyboard shortcuts. But when I try to set a key to a combination with the super (windows) key, it puts in just that key instead of the combination
[12:16] <nuked_omen> snap2: i'm not that good with troubleshooting sound
[12:16] <xstasi> hi!
[12:16] <xstasi> why isn't there Ubuntu 7.04 for PowerPC?
[12:16] <ian__> xstasi: hi!
[12:16] <ian__> lolpowerpc
[12:16] <squee> xstasi, because powerpc has such a small audience
[12:16] <nuked_omen> xstasi: so you don't have to buy mac hardware
[12:17] <squee> xstasi, check out yellow dog
[12:17] <weas3l> nuked_omen: no. i actually don't know where that is.
[12:17] <xstasi> nuked_omen, i won't buy anymore apple hardware because they switched to INFERIOR processors
[12:17] <squee> LOL
[12:17] <xstasi> i bought an iBook because it was PowerPC
[12:17] <xstasi> and... squee, anything based on red hat sucks by axiom
[12:17] <nuked_omen> weas3l: System > Administration
the hardware is recognized ....ive seen a couple posts of similar problems with same presario laptop series.....but no solutions
[12:17] <nuked_omen> weas3l: 7.04?
[12:18] <xstasi> so it's official, powerpc support has been dropped?
[12:18] <weas3l> squee: when i called Gateway tech support, they told me it was a 'S3/Diamond Unichrome Pro GP
[12:18] <nuked_omen> xstasi: you're gonna have to switch eventually
[12:18] <doomster> is there an apt-get log file ?
[12:18] <squee> weas3l, unichrome is not supported well by linux, there is a project to create an open source driver though - check it out http://wiki.openchrome.org/tikiwiki/tiki-index.php
[12:18] <xstasi> nuked_omen, i currently have Debian on my iBook
[12:18] <PleegWat> Can keyboard shortcuts be configured with a text file somewhere?  But which one?)
[12:18] <squee> xstasi, how did you get that intel was "inferior"?
[12:18] <xstasi> and i'm pretty happy with it
[12:19] <xstasi> squee, i'm a kind of RISC fanatic
[12:19] <kairu0> PleegWat, keyboard shortcuts for what?
[12:19] <xstasi> we are not making an architecture flame here are we
[12:19] <xstasi> :P
[12:19] <weas3l> nuked_omen: says my hardware doesn't need restrictive drivers
[12:19] <PleegWat> gnome. Some stuff like selecting desktops, and locking the screen
[12:19] <Zampiela> if I remove iptables, it won't be any firewall in my system, right?
i was trying to get wine working 64bit , then realized hey i got no sound at all
[12:19] <xstasi> anyway
[12:19] <nuked_omen> xstasi: i'm just making things up, i don't know why there isn't a powerpc version
[12:19] <xstasi> returning to my question
[12:19] <xstasi> powerpc has been officially dropped?
[12:19] <weas3l> squee: i'll check it out, i've got it working passibly right now, but theres no 3d, ect...
[12:19] <squee> xstasi, ewww.... That makes me think of hackers "The risc arch will change everything!" >_<
[12:19] <xstasi> i'd like to see an official announcement or something
[12:19] <MenZa> !ppc
[12:19] <ubotu> PowerPC.  Formerly used by Apple for the Macintosh line of computers. Variants are now used in popular gaming consoles. PPC was a fully supported Ubuntu architecture up to and including edgy. It is now a community port, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PowerPCFAQ
[12:19] <squee> xstasi, yes, dropped
[12:20] <weas3l> bbias
[12:20] <Zampiela> if I remove iptables, it won't be any firewall in my system, right?
[12:20] <xstasi> squee, lol one of the good things in the movie
[12:20] <aleix> Zampiela: why would you want to remove iptables... leave it open...
[12:20] <dac> will 64bit work on regular box?
[12:20] <Zampiela> cause I can't connect to anything
[12:20] <squee> dac, no
[12:20] <squee> dac, it will work on 64 bit cpus
[12:20] <dac> ok
[12:20] <aleix> Zampiela: check this: iptables -L
[12:20] <xstasi> ok, so this means i'm gonna stick with Debian
[12:20] <dac> ok, mine is 32 bit
[12:21] <nuked_omen> weas3l: try searching ati in synaptic
[12:21] <mfopa> hi
[12:21] <Zampiela> aleix : yes I checked, there's no rule in there
[12:21] <squee> dac, there is really no reason to use it now unless you have an ungodly amount of ram
[12:21] <aleix> Zampiela: and what about the default policies? all ACCEPT?
[12:21] <aleix> or DROP?
[12:21] <weas3l> wow, gnome is really different than KDE :S
[12:21] <nuked_omen> there might be an open source driver
[12:21] <HorizonXP> OMG
[12:21] <HorizonXP> Beryl worked right outta the box!!!!
[12:21] <HorizonXP> on my ATI card too!
[12:21] <HorizonXP> :D
[12:22] <xstasi> :D
[12:22] <squee> ew... its got ati on it
[12:22] <xstasi> oh
[12:22] <dac> i do not, ramis 512 and6 GB HD
[12:22] <xstasi> i have another question
[12:22] <kerik> HorizonXP, I need an update :)...what does Beryl do?
[12:22] <xstasi> on an IA32 machine of a friend of mine i tried to boot ubuntu 7.04
[12:22] <squee> dac, you should be just fine with 32 bit
[12:22] <xstasi> a few seconds after the bootloader
[12:22] <dac> ok
[12:22] <squee> !beryl
[12:22] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[12:22] <xstasi> the whole system hangs
[12:22] <xstasi> saying that modprobe has segfaulted
[12:22] <dac> then I'll stay put.
[12:22] <xstasi> while doing "something" on ide
[12:23] <xstasi> and drops an initramfs shell
[12:23] <luc_> salut
[12:23] <kerik> anybody in here who can tell me why my Evolution Mail Client?
[12:23] <squee> xstasi, this wouldn't perhaps be a late beta would it?
[12:23] <Dimensions> Hi is there a way to access Router via terminal in ubuntu ? ??
[12:23] <HorizonXP> kerik: seriously, or u just yanking my chain?
[12:23] <xstasi> i can't boot anything but windows on that
[12:23] <xstasi> squee, nope, tried with 7.04 stable
[12:23] <bhuey> hello, my networking is kind of blowing out periodically, is this a known problem ?
[12:23] <kerik> HorizonXP, no seriously
[12:23] <xstasi> i tried everything
[12:23] <xstasi> noapic nolapic acpi=off ide0=noprobe ide1=noprobe
[12:23] <kairu0> Dimensions, telnet or ssh?
[12:23] <squee> bhuey, Wireless?
[12:23] <xstasi> removed "strange" hardware
[12:24] <kerik> HorizonXP, is it a bit like GLX?
[12:24] <bhuey> no, wired
[12:24] <xstasi> but still the same
[12:24] <Dimensions> kairu0: can we ssh into Router ?
[12:24] <xstasi> i don't know what to do :(
[12:24] <squee> bhuey, Perhaps a bad cable or nic?
[12:24] <bhuey> squee, I find that I have to bring down the interface and bring it up again to get it to work
[12:24] <HorizonXP> kerik: Beryl's a 3d window manager kinda dealy
[12:24] <PriceChild> Dimensions, depends on the router...
[12:24] <PriceChild> Dimensions, maybe telnet
[12:24] <Zampiela> I removed iptables, but utorrent still doesn't download anything nor it connects to any peer. Port is forwaded right, tracker is working. what's the problem?
[12:24] <bhuey> squee, I doubt it
[12:24] <squee> bhuey, can you just get a new ip? (dhclient)
[12:24] <kerik> HorizonXP, is it any good?
[12:24] <kairu0> Dimensions, by default no. unless you've set it up you probably want telnet
[12:24] <aleix> Zampiela: anyway, this commands will bypass your firewall: iptables -P INPUT ACCEPT
[12:25] <HorizonXP> kerik: yes, it's VERY good
[12:25] <bhuey> squee, like run that to see what happens ?
[12:25] <aleix> iptables -P OUTPUT ACCEPT
[12:25] <HorizonXP> it's called Desktop Effects in Feisty
[12:25] <Zampiela> i removed iptables
[12:25] <aleix> iptables -P FORWARD ACCEPT
[12:25] <kerik> HorizonXP, ok...can it be compared to the glx or is it completely different?
[12:25] <aleix> Zampiela: no more firewall on your system
[12:25] <Zampiela> but it still doesn't connect
[12:25] <Dimensions> PriceChild:  im on ubuntu ... ... kairu0 i have setup ssh forwarding to another ip of system .1.2 ip while router is .1.1 ip ... i need to know ip of my second machine connected to it ...
[12:25] <ravigr8> is beryl present in edgy cd by default?
[12:25] <bhuey> squee, I'm finding that dhclient is broken
[12:25] <HorizonXP> kerik: i don't know what glx is.... that means OpenGL to me....
[12:25] <squee> bhuey, like when it drops, can you just type "sudo dhclient" and get a new ip?  If that is it, then it is a faulty cable/router/nic.  If it must be brought down then up, it is a driver problem / nic prolem
[12:25] <bhuey> it didn't use to be
[12:25] <aleix> Zampiela: also you could do: iptables -F; iptables -Z; and iptables -X to erase previous rules
[12:25] <kerik> HorizonXP, and most importantly...does it demand seriuos vid. card..
[12:26] <squee> bhuey, how is it broken?
[12:26] <foug> i'm having trouble installing something using ./configure and make. It's a plugin for audacious. At the end of ,/configure it tells me "configure error: Can't find the Audacious SDK." anyone know what that means?
[12:26] <Zampiela> but I removed iptables
[12:26] <HorizonXP> kerik: no, i have crappy video cards in my machines, and it works great
[12:26] <bhuey> squee, it stop routing packets
[12:26] <Zampiela> why utorrent don't connect to anyone?
[12:26] <squee> foug, type "sudo apt-get build-dep audacious"
[12:26] <kerik> HorizonXP, hmm....maybe I should try it out...
[12:26] <bhuey> squee, I'm not a networking expert
[12:26] <aleix> Zampiela: maybe that wasn't your problem, what about you net config? ip, netmask... gateway?
[12:26] <kerik> HorizonXP, it shouldn't by any chance make the desktop look like a cube?
[12:26] <foug> squee: invalid operation build
[12:27] <aleix> oh! that's another thing!
[12:27] <HorizonXP> kerik: it can, and does by default
[12:27] <bhuey> squee, the interface stays up but the connection is wacked out, down effectively
[12:27] <squee> foug, build-dep, no space
[12:27] <bhuey> until I bring the interface down and up
[12:27] <kerik> HorizonXP, then I think we might be talking about the same thing :)...
[12:27] <Zampiela> what about ip, netmask.. gateway?
[12:27] <squee> bhuey, then type sudo dhclient, that will get you a new ip and reauthenticate you to the network
[12:27] <kerik> HorizonXP, does it make your windows wobbly on default?
[12:27] <foug> squee: tyte
[12:27] <HorizonXP> kerik: lol, yes
[12:27] <bhuey> squee, unfortunately that seems to be broken
[12:28] <HorizonXP> kerik: you might be thinking of Compiz tho,
[12:28] <kerik> HorizonXP, no doubt then...then I gotta get it....didn't know the package name :)
[12:28] <kerik> HorizonXP, RIGHT YOU ARE!
[12:28] <squee> bhuey, then it is probably the cable / nic
[12:28] <bhuey> squee, serious ?
[12:28] <HorizonXP> kerik: Beryl is a branch of that project, with LOTS more plugins
[12:28] <kerik> HorizonXP, but Compiz is as far as I know only the handler for the GLX?
[12:28] <bhuey> I've never heard of that before
[12:28] <squee> bhuey, yep.  I've had bad cables do that to me before
[12:28] <kerik> HorizonXP, sounds nice...and it works in Ubuntu out of the box?
[12:28] <foug> is it possible for fans to make the sound of wind in my computer?
[12:28] <bhuey> why would it be intermittent then ?
[12:28] <HorizonXP> yeah
[12:28] <kerik> HorizonXP, what video card have you got?
[12:28] <HorizonXP> just do apt-get install beryl
[12:29] <bhuey> squee, I've been using this cable for years so this is a bit of a surprise to take
[12:29] <HorizonXP> kerik: ATI Radeon 9200SE on my desktop, NVidia GeForce4 Ti4200 in my laptop
[12:29] <foug> squee: still get the error
[12:29] <HorizonXP> kerik: works great on both
[12:29] <bhuey> squee, it's working fine right now
[12:29] <kerik> lol....I will see if it works as well on an Intel 830 ;)
[12:29] <squee> bhuey, to be absolutely sure, take a live cd like knoppix or ubuntu edgy, then try to use the network card for a while, if it works fine, then it is the driver.
[12:30] <kerik> HorizonXP, actually Compiz did work with this card...and only 256 mb ram (not video ram)
[12:30] <kandala> Hello all, I have installed linux-k7-smp kernel on my laptop. My wireless is not working. Can some one here help me fixing it?
[12:30] <skar> hi all, is it possible to use 4 GB of ram on 32 bit ubuntu on my core 2 duo? currently i can only see 3 GB detected, can the kernel be recompiled to see the full 4 GB?
[12:30] <foug> squee: still get the error, and make install doesn't do anything either
[12:30] <squee> kandala, sudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-`uname -r`
[12:31] <HorizonXP> kerik: if anything, it works BEST on Intel cards, cuz their video drivers are open-source
[12:31] <squee> foug, .//configure must succeed first - try sudo apt-get install audacious-dev audacious-plugins-dev
[12:31] <kerik> HorizonXP, well then I must try :)...I'll give you updates upon install :)
[12:31] <HorizonXP> kerik: haha cool
[12:32] <TooR4u> hi
[12:34] <squee> TooR4u, hi
[12:34] <caroline_> Salut
[12:34] <Parmenion> ok hi guys XD
[12:34] <kandala> squee: I get this "linux-restricted-modules-2.6.15-27-k7 is already the newest version"
[12:34] <Parmenion> i just finished beautifying my desktops
[12:34] <squee> kandala, what wireless card do you have?
[12:34] <kandala> squee: Broadcomm
[12:35] <MrOregon> I cannot see the names of the people in here, this is my first time using xchat, and for some reason there is not list of people in the channel on the right hand side
[12:35] <squee> !broadcom | kandala
[12:35] <ubotu> kandala: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[12:35] <ravigr8> hi guys :)
[12:35] <foug> squee: you my friend, are awesome. ,/configure, make and make install all worked. But now I run audacious and don't see the plugin.
[12:35] <jmg> !sound
[12:35] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[12:35] <squee> MrOregon, there is a tab you can drag out,
[12:35] <kandala> squee: ok. I will give it a try
[12:35] <squee> foug, did you restart it?
[12:35] <squee> foug, audacious that is
[12:36] <jmg> hey guys anyone know why speaker-test -Dplug:surround51 doesnt work?
[12:36] <foug> squee: it wasn't open while i installed
[12:36] <MrOregon> OH there it is, sorry for the dumb question
[12:36] <squee> MrOregon, dont worry about it, happens to us all
[12:36] <squee> foug, What plugin is it?
[12:36] <foug> squee: EQ-audacious
[12:37] <MrOregon> how do I get video formats in Linux? I want drivers for all of the standard video formats and I do not see it in the ubuntu guide?
[12:37] <squee> foug, Is this installed when you install audacious-plugins-extra or audacious-plugins?
[12:38] <foug> squee: i don't know? i downloaded it, from the audacious plugin page. And had to extract the files and do ,/configure and all that
[12:38] <kerik> HorizonXP, hey again...how do I activate it?
[12:38] <HorizonXP> System,>Prefernces>Desktop Effects
[12:38] <HorizonXP> enable effects through there
[12:39] <squee> foug, It should be under effects in plugins
[12:39] <HorizonXP> then do sudo aptitude install beryl emerald
[12:39] <HorizonXP> then run beryl-manager
[12:39] <kerik> what is the emerald?
[12:39] <squee> MrOregon, Are you running ubuntu feisty?
[12:39] <foug> squee: nope. nothing in there named EQ-Audacious
[12:39] <kerik> HorizonXP, what is the emerald?
[12:39] <squee> kerik, emerald controls the themes for the window borders
[12:40] <MrOregon> yes Feisty, I am amazed at how efficient it is, I already have 3D graphics up and running and an office suite
[12:40] <kerik> obkb
[12:40] <bluesky> My amule's Kad can not conmcent
[12:40] <squee> foug, I can right click on audacious and click view>show equilizer
[12:40] <mc44> MrOregon: it should ask you to install any codecs required when you try and play a video file
[12:40] <squee> MrOregon, When you try to play videos it will tell you what codecs you need to install
[12:41] <foug> squee: eee, i'm slow. i had to do sudo make install
[12:41] <scott_w|lappy> quit Q: i've got ubuntu dapper. can the feisty install CD upgrade, or is it only possible to do clean installs?
[12:41] <weas3l> now, this may sound like a crazy question, but is there a way to customize the screensavers?
[12:41] <MrOregon> ok I am having a problem with OpenOffice.org it is not working in regards to spell checking, It types some pure gibberish then click spell check and it didn't catch the gibberish
[12:41] <CheshireViking> has anybody had problems running the fiesty/edgy live cd on a toshiba equium L20?  first problem is a bios bug relating to acpi - pressing F6 and adding no acpi to the boot param's gets past that, then gnome won't start with an errors of no screens etc, a dapper live cd works fine tho, graphics are ati radeon express 200
[12:42] <squee> scott_w|lappy, you could set your computers repositories to the cd and then upgrade, but i highly recommend a fresh install
[12:42] <kerik> HorizonXP, I should install beryl-manager ?
[12:42] <HorizonXP> kerik: it's a add-on for beryl to use themes
[12:42] <bluesky>  My amule's Kad can not connect.How can I do??
[12:42] <HorizonXP> kerik: when you install beryl, it should auto-select a bunch of packages, including beryl-manager
[12:42] <mc44> CheshireViking: the error is about VESA?
[12:43] <kerik> HorizonXP, ok...hmm...well if I try to run it in terminal it says that it cant find it..
[12:43] <kerik> HorizonXP, but don't know if that's because I should reboot?
[12:43] <mc44> MrOregon: is it underlining your errors in red?
[12:43] <HorizonXP> kerik: are you using feisty? no, no reboot should be needed
[12:43] <MrOregon> not it is not
[12:43] <kerik> HorizonXP, yeah
[12:43] <mc44> MrOregon: you are in the word processor right?
[12:44] <MrOregon> yes Writer
[12:44] <HorizonXP> kerik: just try sudo aptitude install beryl
[12:44] <CheshireViking> mc44, i'm not sure yet, a problem i had last night, i think it probably is vesa unless ubuntu has detected the ati & used that driver
[12:44] <HorizonXP> see what that does
[12:44] <kerik> HorizonXP, the beryl-manager...is that the one placing itself in the program menu?
[12:44] <anacondo> hi
[12:44] <Zampiela> I have dapper, what should I put in the sources.list to download packages form ubuntu servers?
[12:44] <HorizonXP> kerik: yup
[12:44] <mc44> CheshireViking: there is a known bug with some radeon cards that vesa fails. The solution is to isntall the fglrx drivers
[12:44] <CheshireViking> mc44, i've only ever set up nvidia graphics, so i'm not sure what it'll start up with on the live cd
[12:44] <kerik> HorizonXP, then I think it is here :)
[12:44] <HorizonXP> kerik: it'll have a little ruby red gem icon
[12:45] <kerik> HorizonXP, can you tell me what the aptitude thing does in terminal?
[12:45] <mc44> MrOregon: are you sure your gibberish isnt a word? :p
[12:45] <kerik> HorizonXP, yeah with a tool thingy over it?
[12:45] <CheshireViking> mc44, thats what i was planning on doing, first step is going to be a bios update to try & solve the no acpi problem, then maybe i'll get somewhere
[12:45] <HorizonXP> Beryl Manager, not Beryl Settings Manager
[12:45] <foug> squee: do you know if there are presents i can download?
[12:46] <Zampiela> I have dapper, what should I put in the sources.list to download packages form ubuntu servers?
[12:46] <MrOregon> yeah and when I try to manually do a spell check it completes the spell check completes it and asks me if I wish to repeate it, then I do that, and it completes it again without detecting the errors, and yes I am quite sure the giberish isn't  a word
[12:46] <HorizonXP> kerik: if you run it, you should see that icon in your system tray
[12:46] <tarnap_> di dudes!
[12:46] <mc44> MrOregon: OK go into Tools -> Options - Languages and see if that is set up right
[12:46] <scott_w|lappy> squee: so, i'd fresh install and tell the partitioner to NOT reformat my partition?
[12:46] <kerik> HorizonXP, hmm...I don't have it my sys-tray
[12:46] <scott_w|lappy> squee: would probably be a LOT easier if i had a separate /home =/
[12:46] <scott_w|lappy> lol
[12:46] <squee> foug, I dont think there are, i use listen not audaciuos though
[12:46] <zeroday> kerik: does evolution now work?
[12:46] <foug> squee: how big is listen's EQ?
[12:46] <squee> scott_w|lappy, I think the feisty has support to migrate user files
[12:47] <Zampiela> I have dapper, what should I put in the sources.list to download packages form ubuntu servers?
[12:47] <squee> foug, the window is about hte same size as audacious if that is what you mean
[12:47] <kerik> zeroday, no....still not...
[12:47] <zeroday> !patience | Zampiela
[12:47] <ubotu> Zampiela: The people here are volunteers, your attitude may determine how fast you are helped.  Not everyone is available all the time, likewise not every answer is available instantly. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[12:47] <HorizonXP> kerik, k, go in a terminal, type beryl-manager
[12:47] <kerik> zeroday, it's starting to grrrr me.. :)
[12:47] <foug> squee: how many sliders, but that works too
[12:47] <scott_w|lappy> squee: okey :)
[12:47] <MrOregon> yes the Language is set to USA English
[12:47] <kerik> HorizonXP, tells me it's not installed
[12:48] <kerik> HorizonXP, should I just do that?
[12:48] <squee> scott_w|lappy, It should happen fairly early in the installer
[12:48] <HorizonXP> yeah, do that
[12:48] <zeroday> kerik: sorry about that
[12:48] <kerik> zeroday, any good ideas?
[12:48] <Zampiela> ok, sorry, but I can't figure out the problem.. you are right
[12:48] <Zues_62> hey guys is there anway i can speed up my ext3 filesystem?
[12:48] <scott_w|lappy> squee: cheers mate :)
[12:48] <squee> scott_w|lappy, Good luck :D
[12:48] <MrOregon> there we go, the auto correct was set to Canada English while the spell check was set to USA English and I only have a USA English dictionary installed!
[12:49] <MrOregon> that explains it
[12:49] <zeroday> kerik: nope that was about it. All i know is that seg fault's are fatal and require full reinstall and youre meant to file a bug report
[12:49] <Parmenion> Finally, the weekend!
[12:49] <MrOregon> it now works fine
[12:49] <mc44> MrOregon: :)
[12:49] <Zues_62> is there anyway u can speed up an ext3 filesystem?
[12:49] <scott_w|lappy> Zues_62: umm... there may be one or two arguments you can pass when creating it, but otherwise no
[12:49] <zeroday> Parmenion: i got someone with a seg fault everytime they start evolution any ideas?
[12:49] <kerik> zeroday, hmm...guess I should do so....and then try thunderbird
[12:49] <passbe> when playing hd avi's under ubuntu, if i resize any player to fullscreen i get interface lines either side of the resize area, does anyone else have this problem?
[12:49] <MrOregon> So let me get this straight I never have to pay for this software, ever?
[12:49] <scott_w|lappy> Zues_62: but the speed increases would be minimal, if at all
[12:49] <mc44> MrOregon: nope
[12:49] <squee> Zues_62, yes if you get faster hard drives to run it on
[12:49] <Parmenion> zeroday: every single time?
[12:50] <scott_w|lappy> lmao
[12:50] <zeroday> Parmenion: yeah
[12:50] <squee> MrOregon, kinda scary, isn't it :P
[12:50] <mc44> MrOregon: updates are free too! :)
[12:50] <MrOregon> and I can use it for any purpose, including commercial, such as writing a published paper, and still there is no payment due?
[12:50] <Zues_62> squee im not that silly lol
[12:50] <Parmenion> zeroday: a complete reinstall is due then :\ or tell him to use thunderbird
[12:50] <mc44> MrOregon: yes, its free software in everysense
[12:50] <MrOregon> Wow
[12:50] <squee> Zues_62, If you are really worried about speed, you could migrate to reiserfs4 or ext4.  But i dont recommend it
[12:50] <zeroday> Parmenion: tryed the reinstall (didnt work) hes gonna use thunderbird
[12:50] <tarnap_> MrOregon: world of warcraft?
[12:51] <kerik> HorizonXP, any good ideas for a theme?
[12:51] <zeroday> kerik: sorry i think thunderbird is the only way to go
[12:51] <Zues_62> squee what is ext4?
[12:51] <HorizonXP> i like scaled-black
[12:51] <scott_w|lappy> Zues_62: check the gentoo.org forums for discussion about reiser4
[12:51] <zeroday> kerik: what theme do youwant?
[12:51] <MrOregon> no WOW as wow that is cool
[12:51] <mc44> haha
[12:51] <tarnap_> hrhrhr =)
[12:51] <Parmenion> zeroday: he needs to file a bug-report as well .. funny though, did he upgrade or was his a fresh fiesty install?
[12:51] <squee> Zues_62, its the next version of the ext filesystem but it is in development
[12:51] <squee> !ext4
[12:51] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ext4 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:51] <kerik> zeroday, well...guess I will use that then
[12:51] <tarnap_> someone can tell me how to enable dualcore on feisty fawn?
[12:52] <zeroday> Parmenion: just happened one day right kerik?
[12:52] <kerik> zeroday, just something that doesn't require that much processor :)
[12:52] <PriceChild> tarnap_, should be by defualt
[12:52] <scott_w|lappy> tarnap_: if you're using the 64-bit version it should be on by default
[12:52] <scott_w|lappy> tarnap_: open a terminal and enter uname -a
[12:52] <squee> Tarkus, I have dual core, it is enabled by default, to check this cat /proc/cpuinfo
[12:53] <scott_w|lappy> tarnap_: or what squee said
[12:53] <jmg> guys how do i get my alsa to load surround51.conf? how do i configure alsa?
[12:53] <jmg> !alsa
[12:53] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[12:53] <tarnap_> i didn't find anything in the community
[12:53] <TTilus> argh!!  i did dist-upgrade dapper->edgy and now my box wont boot, it says "VFS: Can't find ext3 filesystem on dev" and then locks up
[12:53] <zeroday> tamap_ : dualcore is enabled by default
[12:53] <tarnap_> mhh... that's nice...
[12:53] <zeroday> kerik: you can try kmail
[12:53] <skar> hi all, is it possible to use 4 GB of ram on 32 bit ubuntu on my core 2 duo? currently i can only see 3 GB detected, can the kernel be recompiled to see the full 4 GB?
[12:53] <kerik> Parmenion, fresh install and just happened today
[12:53] <Parmenion> tarnap_: it just works ... you cant enable it per se
[12:53] <kerik> zeroday, right
[12:53] <Parmenion> kerik: O.o any recently installed software which might have been in conflict?
[12:53] <kerik> Parmenion, no not realy
[12:53] <tarnap_> zeroday: can you tell me how to let mo show both cores on the system monitor?
[12:53] <Parmenion> kerik: you really need to file the bug report then
[12:53] <kerik> Parmenion, how do I do so?
[12:54] <jinzo> skar, it can be ofc, but afaik there are only two options, one for more than 1 gb and one for less, not sure tho
[12:54] <Parmenion> one moment, ill get the link for you kerik
[12:54] <kerik> Parmenion, thanks
[12:54] <squee> !smp
[12:54] <ubotu> Background to the decision to replace -686, k7 and -smp kernels with -generic can be found here https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2006-August/019983.html (the -386 kernel is still available if needed)
[12:54] <ravigr8> !beryl
[12:54] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[12:54] <tarnap_> verges@stefanie:/vm$ uname -a
[12:54] <tarnap_> Linux stefanie 2.6.20-15-386 #2 Sun Apr 15 07:34:00 UTC 2007 i686 GNU/Linux
[12:54] <tarnap_> i don't soo no smp
[12:55] <jmg> help
[12:55] <skar> jinzo: hmm 3 memory options are there in kernel compile options, 1 G, 4 G and 64 G, 1 to 4 got me 3 G, while 64 G option hangs :( also what's ofc?
[12:55] <Subhuman> tarnap_, your not running an SMP enabled kernel.
[12:55] <HorizonXP> kerik: working ok?
[12:55] <Subhuman> tarnap_, you need to get the "generic" kernel image
[12:55] <tarnap_> voila... that's what i was saying =)
[12:56] <squee> tarnap, type "cat /proc/cpuinfo" |grep processor.  It should give you 2 lines if you have 2 cores working, 1 core if 1
[12:56] <anacondo> could someone help me? i need to set up a daemon to auto-start on every startup
[12:56] <jinzo> skar, orc = ofcourse :P , hmmz wierd 4GB should work then...
[12:56] <kerik> HorizonXP, yeah actually is :)...but a little slow..guess I should turn some features off...
[12:56] <Parmenion> kerik: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HelpingWithBugs
[12:56] <zeroday> anacondo: sure
[12:56] <jinzo> *ofc
[12:56] <tarnap_> well... i have the generic linux image...
[12:56] <Parmenion> read it, then follow the link there
[12:56] <HorizonXP> yeah
[12:56] <HorizonXP> depends on your card i guess
[12:56] <Subhuman> tarnap, are you choosing it on the grub menu?
[12:57] <Subhuman> Linux ubdesktop 2.6.20-15-generic #2 SMP Sun Apr 15 07:36:31 UTC 2007 i686 GNU/Linux <- that is the uname for the generic image.
[12:57] <zeroday> anacondo: go to System > Preferences > Sessions
[12:57] <kerik> HorizonXP, do you know how to deactivate the small "thumbnail" thingy in the lower bar? - the one that shows a mini version of the window?
[12:57] <tarnap_> tf!
[12:57] <tarnap_> maybe i'm chosing the wrong one...
[12:57] <skar> jinzo: thanks, thought so that 4 GB should make 4 G work, let me dig more :)
[12:57] <tarnap_> you may be right!
[12:57] <tarnap_> =)
[12:57] <Subhuman> tarnap_, check - or to be sure
[12:57] <HorizonXP> kerik: there's a window thumbnail setting somewhere, forgot where
[12:57] <Subhuman> remove the 386 image - you dont need it.
[12:57] <anacondo> zeroday: i'm remotely connected via ssh to that machine, so no X :)
[12:58] <zeroday> anacondo: dunno command line sorry
[12:58] <jinzo> skar, i don't have that kind of sweet problems, but i wish i would lol :)
[12:58] <tarnap_> yes... i was using the wrong one...
[12:58] <anacondo> zeroday: ok, thank you anyways
[12:58] <tarnap_> thank you guys!
[12:58] <zeroday> anacondo: lemme have a lool
[12:58] <tarnap_> i'll fast reboot
[12:58] <zeroday> *look
[12:58] <kerik> HorizonXP, thankx:)
[12:58] <mc44> anacondo: you can use init to start stuff
[12:58] <kerik> Parmenion, I will see if I can report this then :) - thanks
[12:58] <anacondo> zeroday: ok, thanks. I know i did it in the past, just don't rememeber how
[12:59] <Zampiela> I'm trying to do sudo apt-get update, but it shows "sudo: unable to lookup xxx.xxxxxx.com via gethostbyname()
[12:59] <mc44> !init | anacondo
[12:59] <ubotu> anacondo: Boot options: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions - To add/remove startup services, you can use the package 'bum', or update-rc.d - To add your own startup scripts, use /etc/rc.local - See also !grub and !dualboot - Making a boot floppy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto/BootFloppy - Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SmartBootManagerHowto
[12:59] <anacondo> mc44: thanks, I'll search that
[12:59] <kerik> Parmenion, other than that, there is nothing to do about the bugging evolution? I have uninstalled reinstalled and unistalled again...
[12:59] <zeroday> anacondo: nothing try wat mc44 said
[12:59] <anacondo> thanks a lot, guys
[12:59] <ravigr8> !howto
[12:59] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about howto - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:00] <MrOregon> This software is most impressive, unlike the windows IRC Clients I have used this one has auto spell check and a very polished feel, my perception of Free software is very much changed now, I always imagined it would be what I paid for but this client is actually better than the windows IRC client I used.
[01:00] <tarnap_> brb
[01:00] <zeroday> MrOregon: thats linux
[01:00] <foug> squee: can you explain what ,/configure and make and make install do? or is there a link you can provide maybe?
[01:00] <Zampiela> I'm trying to do sudo apt-get update, but it shows "sudo: unable to lookup xxx.xxxxxx.com via gethostbyname()
[01:00] <zeroday> !comple
[01:00] <zeroday> !compile
[01:00] <Parmenion> kerik: I would advise working through the forums
[01:01] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about comple - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:01] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[01:01] <zeroday> !repeat > Zampiela (see pm from ubotu)
[01:01] <Parmenion> do a search about your specific error message
[01:01] <kerik> Parmenion, which others are there?
[01:01] <kerik> Parmenion, forums that is
[01:01] <zeroday> kerik: ubuntuforums.org
[01:01] <Parmenion> the official ubuntu forums
[01:01] <Eridius_> hi folks. I just installed Ubuntu 7.04 inside VMWare Fusion beta on OS X
[01:01] <squee> foug, ./configure configures creates a configure file to say what features are available for your system are enabled.  It also checks for dependencies.  you should then type make which compiles it.  You should see binaries available in that source folder.  Make install puts files in their global locations
[01:01] <Eridius_> I stupidly clicked the enable display features button
[01:02] <Eridius_> now my windows wiggle around when I try to move them
[01:02] <tommus> Does anyone know how to enable a fail-safe windows-boot from the grub?
[01:02] <Eridius_> but going back to the display features window has the checkboxes disabled
[01:02] <Eridius_> how can I turn this off?
[01:02] <Eridius_> erm, desktop effects
[01:02] <kerik> :) doh...guess you're right
[01:02] <zeroday> !enter | Eridius_
[01:02] <ubotu> Eridius_: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[01:02] <foug> squee: so configure checks to make sure everything is gonna be ok, make gets it ready for installing, and make install finishes it off?
[01:03] <squee> foug, yep
[01:03] <squee> foug, sometime configure will also allow you to well... configure it.  typing ./configure --help will sometimes show you other options available for programs (mythtv does this)
[01:04] <tommus> How do i add a option in grub so that i can failsafe boot windows?
[01:04] <foug> squee: myth tv?
[01:04] <squee> foug, its like an open source tivo
[01:04] <squee> !mythtv
[01:04] <ubotu> MythTV is a TV framework for Linux - Instructions for using with Ubuntu at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MythTV
[01:04] <foug> squee: o wow, lol
[01:06] <skar> jinzo: can i upgrade from the 32 bit to 64 bit distro?
[01:06] <squee> skar: nope
[01:06] <skar> squee: hmm thanks, will do base install then
[01:06] <kerik> Parmenion, I think there have been some reporting of this problem before...but I can't seem to find it anywhere
[01:06] <squee> good luck
[01:07] <Parmenion> ok, ill poke around a bit kerik
[01:07] <kerik> Parmenion, thanks alot
[01:08] <mskadu> hello all
[01:08] <squee> Howdy
[01:08] <mskadu> i am looking for some help configuring wifi on WPA/PSK
[01:08] <mskadu> squee, hiya
[01:08] <squee> What wireless card?
[01:09] <foug> is there a way to control the speed of my fans?
[01:09] <mskadu> squee:  i am trying to find that out. how do i do that?
[01:09] <squee> try "lspci | grep -i wireless"
[01:10] <zica> asd
[01:10] <mskadu> squee: nothing??
[01:10] <dejanpetrovic> how can I see files on my NTFS partition???
[01:11] <squee> mskadu: ok, type lspci and look for something like prism, broadcom, atheros, etc
[01:11] <squee> dejanpetrovic, it should be mounted by default in /media
[01:12] <Parmenion> kerik: there arent much fixes for this issue ... Its affecting a small group of users
[01:12] <skar> is there any amd64 dvd for feisty?
[01:12] <kerik> Parmenion, yeah that's the impression I got as well...
[01:12] <dejanpetrovic> only cdrom - cdrom0 & KINGSON is mounted in /media
[01:12] <dejanpetrovic> KINGSTON- USB memory
[01:13] <mskadu> squee:  there's one that says ethernet controller -- Atheros, is that tyhe one?
[01:13] <squee> mskadu, yes, you have an atheros chipset - that uses madwifi for it's driver
[01:13] <squee> !madwifi
[01:13] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[01:13] <mskadu> squee:  madwifi, eh. I like that ;)
[01:13] <dejanpetrovic> & when I go on Places > Computer I can see partitio
[01:13] <dejanpetrovic> but
[01:14] <Parmenion> ok ...
[01:14] <dejanpetrovic> when I try to open
[01:14] <dejanpetrovic> Unable to mount the selected volume
[01:14] <Parmenion> that wasnt so nice
[01:14] <dejanpetrovic> what can I do?
[01:14] <squee> dejanpetrovic, ok, type cfdisk in a console and find out what partition is your windows partition.  Then you need to create a directory for it to be mounted on.  so type sudo mount /dev/<drive> /location to mount
[01:15] <dejanpetrovic> no no... I don't whant my win partition.... this NTFS partition is only file partition
[01:15] <dejanpetrovic> FATAL ERROR: Bad primary partition 0: Partition ends in the final partial cylind                          Press any key to exit cfdisk
[01:16] <zeroday> !enter | dejanpetrovic
[01:16] <ubotu> dejanpetrovic: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[01:16] <pieman> how do i make the system beep from the command line?
[01:16] <dejanpetrovic> enter & I back in terminal
[01:16] <mskadu_> squee:  so what do i do next?
[01:16] <squee> dejanpetrovic, Ahh ok.  In that case, boot into windows and run chkdsk on it.  Last I knew ntfs can't be checked from linux
[01:17] <squee> mskadu, check the ubuntu documentation
[01:17] <squee> !madwifi | mskadu
[01:17] <ubotu> mskadu: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[01:17] <dejanpetrovic> but how will that help me see that partition in linux???
[01:18] <squee> dejanpetrovic, bad primary parition means there are errors in the filesystem.  It needs to be corrected before it can be mounted
[01:19] <dejanpetrovic> ok!
[01:19] <dejanpetrovic> tnx!
[01:19] <weas3l> whelp, now that i'm feeling feisty, i'm going to bed. its almost 5.30!
[01:22] <ariendj> can anyone tell me how to install a .deb package without dependancies?
[01:22] <ariendj> using feisty here
[01:22] <tarnap_> re
[01:22] <tarnap_> well... it doesn't boot...
[01:22] <max_harmony> --nodeps
[01:22] <tarnap_> the generic one just doesn't boot
[01:22] <max_harmony> I think
[01:23] <systems> hi
[01:23] <ariendj> --nodeps with aptitude or apt-get?
[01:23] <ariendj> its not in the manual of either
[01:24] <kiasanth> hello all
[01:25] <vladi_here> hi
[01:25] <kiasanth> I just installed Ubuntu... this is the first time I've seen a linux distro that could beat windows
[01:26] <kiasanth> if only they fix the support for drivers, they are a pain to install
[01:26] <lasse> kiasanth Same here and i agree
[01:27] <mc44> kiasanth: which drivers?
[01:27] <kiasanth> in fact I'm stuck in 800 x 600 for some reason
[01:27] <kiasanth> NVidia
[01:27] <mc44> kiasanth: they are easy to install in feisty, just use the restricted driver manager
[01:27] <kiasanth> oh... where is that?
[01:28] <mc44> kiasanth: system -> admin -> restricted ...
[01:28] <kiasanth> I may have done too much damage already
[01:28] <SlimeyPete> that won't work if you've monkeyed with your xorg.conf manually
[01:28] <kiasanth> I have
[01:28] <mc44> kiasanth: see, its easy if you do it the right way... :p
[01:28] <SlimeyPete> though installing the nvidia-glx package via synaptic and then running nvidia-xconfig should still work, I think
[01:29] <FordCapri> im using "tar t" to list files in an archive but its not printing anything
[01:29] <lolas> hello
[01:29] <SlimeyPete> "tar -t", surely...
[01:29] <kiasanth> ooh, restricted driver thingo says It's actually using the drivers I installed
[01:30] <mjr> Ford, tf to also spesify file
[01:30] <lolas> I'm trying to do sudo apt-get update, but nothing happens, any suggestions?
[01:30] <mc44> lolas: what do you want to happen?
[01:30] <mastroDani> after feisty upgrade i've found myself stuck with graphics... i've an nvidia geforce 420 go, nvidia proprietary driver installed and working on edgy.. just after the upgrade the screen is black... but if i put down the user and password i can heard it log in.. i've reinstalled restricted driver and nvidia-glx ... now i get the blue windows saing the X load as failed.. if i launch modprobe -v nvidia i see that it is tr
[01:30] <mastroDani> ying to "insmod" the nvidia_new.ko instead of the nvidia.ko !!! how can i fix this?
[01:30] <lolas> mc44 : it can't resolve hostname, something like that
[01:30] <FordCapri> mjr: thankyou that workd
[01:30] <mc44> mastroDani: you need nvidia-glx-legacy I believe
[01:31] <zeroday> mastroDani: nice
[01:31] <ariendj> --nodeps does not work
[01:31] <mc44> lolas: is your internet working?
[01:31] <lolas> don't know, how can I check?
[01:31] <foug> what's the best position for an external harddrive? laying down or standing up?
[01:31] <kiasanth> yeah, I needed legacy too - found out the hard way hehe
[01:31] <kiasanth> I'd lay it down
[01:31] <mc44> lolas: open firefox...?
[01:32] <odium> can I be directed to a channel, where I can get help troubleshooting my audio problems?
[01:32] <Dell-Net> hehe how do he chat if he doesent have internet ?
[01:32] <HOT> foug: depends, whatever position offers the best airflow
[01:32] <mc44> Dell-Net: using a different computer :p
[01:32] <ariendj> i have downloaded the package i want to install explicitly without dependencies. what must i type into the terminal to do that?
[01:32] <Dell-Net> ah ok :)
[01:32] <kiasanth> me too :)
[01:32] <foug> HOT: couldn't tell ya, heh
[01:32] <kiasanth> any way to make it see more screenmodes?
[01:32] <foug> kiasanth: i  would but i don't know which way is up on it
[01:32] <lolas> mc44: I'm connected via ssh
[01:33] <mc44> lolas: ping google.com
[01:33] <Gado> how do I know if my wireless card is installed?
[01:33] <odium> I have the right, modules, device file permissions, users added to the audio group, alsamixer unmuted. but all I get is silence.
[01:33] <HOT> foug: then upright is probly best as it exposes the most amount of surface area
[01:33] <Polis_ttt> when i uses vi and have added some lines in /etc/rc.d/rc.local and quits whit :wq i get error "cant open file to print" or something like that, error message in swedish :) I'm loged in as root. What do i do?
[01:34] <mastroDani> m44 i used the nvidia-glx until edgy
[01:34] <hsystem-x> to save in vi, press ESC then turn on caps lock and press ZZ
[01:34] <mastroDani> are you sure?
[01:34] <foug> hot; cool
[01:34] <mc44> mastroDani: yes, the nvidia changed the drivers
[01:34] <mastroDani> mc44, ok..
[01:34] <mastroDani> but i already tried them
[01:34] <Polis_ttt> aa, saw that i dont hade thar file, the file is in /etc, thanks
[01:34] <mastroDani> the problem is that modprobe try to load the nvidia_new.ko !!!
[01:34] <lolas> mc44: I pinged google.com, and it sending packets, but doesn't stop pinging
[01:35] <mastroDani> m44
[01:35] <Dell-Net> ctrl c
[01:35] <mc44> lolas: ctrl-c
[01:35] <Wonderguy6> Wholy crap
[01:35] <Wonderguy6> 1173 people here!
[01:35] <foug> is there a way to tell my taskbar which tasks to manually group? Audacious doesn't group any of it's menu's or plugin menu's
[01:36] <lolas> mc44 : oh, I typed Ctrl + C and stopped, it receives answer, so I have internet, right?
[01:36] <mc44> lolas: right. what error does apt give you?
[01:36] <mc44> kiasanth: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto#head-aebd81e5fe762bccb1b7e4d7a10ed7a1276aa634
[01:36] <mc44> mastroDani: you need to run the nvidia config thingy
[01:37] <kiasanth> mc44: Thanks
[01:37] <lolas> mc44:  sudo : unable to lookup (my domain) via gethostbyname()
[01:37] <mastroDani> mc44, modprobe -v nvidia say: install /sbin/lrm-video nvidia insmod /lib/modules/2.6.20-15-generic/volatile/nvidia_new.ko FATAL: Error running install command for nvidia
[01:38] <mastroDani> mc44, now i try
[01:38] <foug> is there a way to tell my taskbar which tasks to manually group? Audacious doesn't group any of it's menu's or plugin menu's
[01:38] <mc44> lolas: wait, when you pinged google, did you get any packets back?
[01:38] <lolas> yes
[01:39] <lolas> nothing lost, all received
[01:39] <mastroDani> mc44, can you give me the exact command to launch the nvidia config? or a web site?
[01:40] <mc44> mastroDani: sudo nvidia-xconfig
[01:41] <odium> If I run alsamixer as a user I get a error: no such device.
[01:41] <Bluetooth> hi
[01:41] <odium> as root it works fine.
[01:41] <m0ns00n> Hey I'm upgrading to feisty but apt complains that x11-common conflicts with opera
[01:42] <m0ns00n> When I try to remove opera, it says it's not installed....
[01:42] <m0ns00n> How can I track down the package and forcefully remove it?
[01:44] <berent> i was upgrading from edgy to fiesty when i got a message telling i don't have a desktop! It asked me to install ubuntu-desktop
[01:44] <akeripper> what package should select when downloading skype?
[01:44] <berent> but what i see is desktop how can i get a message like that
[01:44] <scrimple> Hello all. my desktop backgrounds preferences is acting strangely, or more precisely not acting at all. the cursor just spins around and won't load the choices. I got a feeling this has something to do with downloading the art manager. What does anyone think?
[01:45] <mc44> lolas: try setting the hostname with "sudo hostname -v whatever" ?
[01:45] <mastroDani> mc44, after running nvidia-xconfig and putting the resulting file in /etc/X11/xorg.conf i restarted gdm and i get this error: Error: API mismatch: the NVIDIA kernel module is version 1.8.9631, but this X module is version 1.8.7184. Please be sure that your kernel module and all NVIDIA driver files have the same driver version.
[01:45] <mc44> mastroDani: where did you install the nvidia driver from?
[01:45] <lolas> mc44: any suggestions? I pinged google.com successfully
[01:46] <HUPBAHA> hi, I have some problems with ubuntu 7.04, my keyboard don't work so I can't install OS... maybe somebody can help me???
[01:46] <mastroDani> mc44, apt-get install nvidia-glx-legacy
[01:46] <HUPBAHA> but it is all normal in ubuntu 6.10
[01:46] <berent> but what i see is desktop how can i get a message like that
[01:46] <berent> but what i see is desktop how can i get a message like that
[01:46] <berent> !ubuntu-desktop
[01:46] <ubotu> k/ed/x/ubuntu-desktop is a metapackage. It depends upon other packages and brings them in; you can safely remove it, but it is recommended that you re-install it when upgrading.
[01:47] <scrimple> Hello all. my desktop backgrounds preferences is acting strangely, or more precisely not acting at all. the cursor just spins around and won't load the choices. I got a feeling this has something to do with downloading the art manager. What does anyone think?
[01:47] <mc44> mastroDani: did you try rebooting?
[01:47] <mastroDani> mc44