[18:07] <RainCT> Hi
[18:07] <RainCT> Is there a 2.6.29 kernel or something other than the default one packaged for Jaunty?
[18:13] <amitk> RainCT: http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/
[18:14] <RainCT> amitk: thanks
[18:14] <amitk> RainCT: these are not officially supported, but are packaged for your convenience. They are strictly upstream kernels and we will not accept any bugs filed against them.
[18:20] <RainCT> Uhm.. Is there some way to remount / without restart if «sudo mount -o remount,rw /» tells me that the device is write-protected?
[19:02] <Rnemo> hi, may i ask a question on a kernel module here?
[20:51] <nodeboy> i'm wondering if someone could give me a comentary on the following when im running vbox with default swapiness a large amount of page file is used if i set swapiness to 0 then a small amount is used (well ok thats kinda obvious i guess) what i'd like to know is there anything to stop the vbox process being swapped or is there some sort of page hint that could be assigned to the vbox memory to prevent them being swapped
[22:25] <savvas> hello, I was just wondering if there was a discussion about setting kernel's timer frequency to 1000 for desktop kernels? Does it actually optimize the system in speed? Would there be any downsides if this was implemented in -generic?
[22:33] <savvas> I'm not very keen on kernel compiling, I was just wondering about the 1000hz on a desktop system, as it is the recommended one as far as I can see: http://cateee.net/lkddb/web-lkddb/HZ_1000.html - and of course, why is 250hz favoured?


[00:00] <TheLordOfTime> ^ that
[00:00]  * TheLordOfTime just woke up xD
[01:25] <isuckassatubuntu> hi what is lite update for ubuntu
[01:29] <isuckassatubuntu> hi preecher
[01:30] <isuckassatubuntu> what is lite updateing
[01:31] <preecher> hi
[01:31] <isuckassatubuntu> is wynatic update different form ubdating in ubuntu
[01:31] <isuckassatubuntu> dating
[01:32] <isuckassatubuntu> i thing it called synatic
[01:33] <isuckassatubuntu> do you know what im even talking about
[01:33] <isuckassatubuntu> preecher
[01:34] <isuckassatubuntu> i new to ubuntu
[01:36] <preecher> ah ok, if you like it half as much as i have you will be more than happy with it as an OS
[01:37] <isuckassatubuntu> - apt synatic somthing
[01:39] <preecher> isuckassatubuntu, probably better asking in the ubuntu channel rather than the "bugs" channel
[01:39] <isuckassatubuntu> you got the udate in ubuntu
[01:40] <preecher> isuckassatubuntu, i only update on fridays- and i just accept all updates included
[01:41] <isuckassatubuntu> but their a liter verision update like utorrent lite fro examle
[01:41] <isuckassatubuntu> lite updating for udate your ubuntu
[01:42] <isuckassatubuntu> called synatics updateing it like compreses it
[01:42] <isuckassatubuntu> the updates
[01:43] <preecher> im not familiar with that
[01:44] <isuckassatubuntu> i splet that worng my spelling sucks like my typing
[01:44] <isuckassatubuntu> synaptic
[01:45] <isuckassatubuntu> i found it synapticpackage manager
[01:48] <isuckassatubuntu> never heard of SYNAPTIC PACKAGE MANAGER
[01:53] <isuckassatubuntu> APT - GET INSTALL SYNAPTIC
[01:56] <isuckassatubuntu> is that better getting updates that way instead of getting your update from inside ubuntu itself
[02:04]  * hggdh wonders who, and what this was all about.
[02:05]  * hggdh also marks the nick/IP for future kicks


[07:44] <tsdgeos> oh my
[07:44] <tsdgeos> someone fixed resubmit so neither description nor commit message are lost
[07:44] <tsdgeos> \o/
[07:53] <seb128> tsdgeos, yeah, bug #676769, that was mentioned on http://blog.launchpad.net/general/launchpad-news-april-june-2015
[07:54] <tsdgeos> seb128: nice :)
[07:55] <seb128> tsdgeos, quite some improvement recently, that's good to see, like lp doesn't email full diff again for inline comment but just the relevant parts
[08:19] <mzanetti> tsdgeos, yeah. noticed that too lately...
[08:20] <mzanetti> couldn't believe it :D
[08:33] <tsdgeos> grrrr
[08:33] <tsdgeos> ShellWithPin::test_emergencyCall regressed
[08:33] <tsdgeos> or fails
[08:33] <tsdgeos> can anyone confirm it fails for them too?
[08:36] <tsdgeos> cimi: anyone: https://code.launchpad.net/~aacid/unity8/make_test_page_header_more_stable/+merge/264679 ?
[08:45] <cimi> tsdgeos, ok
[08:47] <cimi> tsdgeos, shall we apply some movement to this headerContainer so if is not yet contentY = 0 it will be?
[08:47] <tsdgeos> cimi: ?
[08:47] <tsdgeos> no
[08:47] <tsdgeos> it will be
[08:47] <tsdgeos> we just need to wait before starting to type
[08:47] <cimi> tsdgeos, k
[08:48] <tsdgeos> otherwise the keypresses get lost once in a blue moon
[08:51] <cimi> tsdgeos, well, it's very simple/clean, let's wait CI to approve
[09:23] <mvvvv> Hi ! I successfully built unity8 under vivid and it work with fake qml under x11. what is the most efficient way to test it with mir ? making my own LXC (doker) ? installing mir with vivid ?
[09:34] <tsdgeos> mvvvv: you can install unity8-desktop-session-mir this will of course run the packaged one, not the one you compiled
[09:34] <tsdgeos> cimi: and can you do https://code.launchpad.net/~aacid/unity8/dash_activation_no_special_casing/+merge/264024 too?
[09:34] <tsdgeos> pstolowski: do we have a silo with https://code.launchpad.net/~aacid/unity8/dash_activation_no_special_casing/+merge/264024 and friends ?
[09:35] <tsdgeos> cimi: and more testing of https://code.launchpad.net/~aacid/unity8/use_sdk_13/+merge/264392 didn't explode would be cool
[09:35] <pstolowski> tsdgeos, yes, silo 41, but will need to be rebuild
[10:00] <mvvvv> tsdgeos: package 'unity-shell-scopes=7' not found
[10:01] <mvvvv> I guess I'm missing a recent libunityapi-dev
[10:06] <tsdgeos> mvvvv: sorry, you tyring the branches i mentioned?
[10:06] <tsdgeos> they werent for you
[10:08] <mvvvv> ok my fault
[11:48] <anpok_> greyback_: how can I enable DLOG statements in qtubuntu?
[11:49] <greyback_> anpok_: completely clean your build directory, then "qmake CONFIG+=debug"
[11:49] <greyback_> plus the other flags in the debian/rules file
[11:49] <greyback_> or else it won't build the bits you want
[12:02] <anpok_> thx
[12:03] <anpok_> this behaves weird..
[12:04] <anpok_> is anybody else experiencing issues with resize events on ubuntu-desktop-next?
[12:05] <anpok_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/11877355/
[12:06] <anpok_> it looks as if we stop processing mirevents while redrawing, and keep redrawing untill I manage to reach the initial resize event size..
[12:39] <greyback_> anpok_: dandrader did working improving that not so long ago, you are up to date I guess
[12:40] <greyback_> anpok_: one issue we have is that mir sends us a mir resize event, but it's only the size of the buffer we receive that we can actually trust
[13:05] <anpok_> greyback_: yes .. there might be a mir problem ..
[13:05] <anpok_> or something is blocking qtubuntu to no longer consume events..
[13:09] <greyback_> anpok_: we do funny things in qtubuntu to try make thigns work. Guidance welcome
[13:09] <anpok_> i was able to bypass the problem just be debugging through it
[13:10] <anpok_> so I am not yet sure.. why the matching resize events do not arrive
[13:10] <anpok_> s/be/by
[13:25] <tsdgeos> jhodapp: there?
[13:26] <dandrader> mzanetti, seems lp:unity8 has extraneous tags
[13:26] <tsdgeos> dandrader: i killed them this morning afaik
[13:27] <tsdgeos> dandrader: but yes it got infected for some reason
[13:27] <tsdgeos> make sure you clean your local copy
[13:27] <tsdgeos> $ ./strip-tags.py lp:unity8
[13:27] <tsdgeos> lp:unity8: clean
[13:27] <dandrader> tsdgeos, it seems to happens easily on releases. getting those rtm tags
[13:27] <jhodapp> tsdgeos, here
[13:27] <tsdgeos> jhodapp: the crash i get is on wily, that ok or you prefer to get vivid+ppa backtraces?
[13:27] <jhodapp> tsdgeos, wily is perfect
[13:28] <tsdgeos> dandrader: there was a manual pushing by people, this caused it, it seems
[13:28] <mzanetti> dandrader, yeah... sil2100 pushed manually to trunk yesterday :)
[13:28] <tsdgeos> dandrader: i have a orientedshell qmltest failing in trunk, can you reproduce?
[13:28] <sil2100> o/ Sorry about that, I messed up something through the train and had to --overwrite
[13:29] <mzanetti> no problem sil2100, really. Was just explaining the tags :)
[13:32] <greyback_> dandrader: huh sorry, I did it locally with conflicts. Maybe dirty trunk
[13:32] <greyback_> thanks anyway
[13:45] <greyback_> dednick: does my memory deceive me, or did you chat with appArmor guys some time ago for an API to query what a client can or cannot do?
[13:48] <dednick> greyback_: i thnk your memory may indeed be deceiving you. or mine is...
[13:48] <greyback_> I swear someone had that conversation a year ago or more
[13:48] <dednick> greyback_: by "what it can do"?
[13:48] <greyback_> as in, could the app act like a system settings app and reconfigure the displays
[13:49] <greyback_> or take screenshot of the whole screen
[13:49] <dednick> greyback_: i c. i think i only had discussions with them re prompt sessions.
[13:49] <dednick> but not that much detail
[13:49] <greyback_> ok
[14:22] <tsdgeos> dandrader: i have a orientedshell qmltest failing in trunk, can you reproduce?
[14:23] <dandrader> tsdgeos, oh, right. forgot about it. let me see
[14:26] <dandrader> tsdgeos, "Totals: 30 passed, 0 failed, 0 skipped, 0 blacklisted"
[14:26] <dandrader> tsdgeos, that with "make testOrientedShell"
[14:26] <tsdgeos> :/
[14:26] <tsdgeos> dandrader: xvfb?
[14:26] <dandrader> running...
[14:33] <dandrader> tsdgeos, also passes
[14:33] <dandrader> tsdgeos, could leave it running in a loop if you want to
[14:34] <tsdgeos> dandrader: yeah same here, weird
[14:37] <tsdgeos> dandrader: because i'm stupid and it's not OrientedShell :D
[14:37] <tsdgeos> dandrader: ShellWithPin::test_emergencyCall is the one that fails
[14:40] <tsdgeos> dandrader: this
[14:40] <tsdgeos> FAIL!  : qmltestrunner::ShellWithPin::test_emergencyCall() property spreadEnabled
[14:40] <tsdgeos>    Actual   (): false
[14:40] <tsdgeos>    Expected (): true
[14:40] <tsdgeos>    Loc: [/home/tsdgeos_work/phablet/unity8/unity8/tests/qmltests/tst_ShellWithPin.qml(316)]
[14:42] <dandrader> tsdgeos, yeah, I get the same failure
[14:43] <dandrader> tsdgeos, could be related to my bugfix. I forgot about the existence of this test
[14:43] <tsdgeos> dandrader: yeah reverting yesterdays commit from your side fixes the test
[14:43] <tsdgeos> dandrader: can you have a look?
[14:44] <dandrader> tsdgeos, yeah, fix should be a one-liner
[14:44] <tsdgeos> awesome :)
[14:49] <dandrader> tsdgeos, https://code.launchpad.net/~dandrader/unity8/updateTestShellWithPin/+merge/264721
[14:50] <tsdgeos> that's ncie :)
[14:50]  * tsdgeos claims
[14:53] <MacSlow> mzanetti, addressed all MP-comments of the launcher-icon-wobble branch and now updating related qmltests
[14:53] <mzanetti> that was quick
[14:53] <mzanetti> is it still working?
[14:54] <MacSlow> mzanetti, sofar
[14:54] <MacSlow> mzanetti, but I'll still do some further verification tests
[14:55] <MacSlow> mzanetti, also almost done with resurrecting my bq for more coverage
[15:13] <tsdgeos> jhodapp: anything i'm missing https://code.launchpad.net/~nick-dedekind/unity8/inline-dash-videos/+merge/260251/comments/663849 ?
[15:32] <MacSlow> mzanetti, launcher-icon-wobble verified on mako... krillin still to be done
[15:38] <conyoo> !ping
[15:39] <jhodapp> tsdgeos, that looks good, seems to be the same of very similar problem that morphis is chasing right now
[15:39] <tsdgeos> jhodapp: :=
[15:39] <tsdgeos> :) i mean
[15:39] <tsdgeos> still not double nose here
[15:40] <jhodapp> lol
[15:40] <morphis> tsdgeos: yeah have the same here ..
[15:45] <conyoo> http://imgur.com/Plb3qTq
[15:45] <conyoo> ^^ hehe
[15:47] <mvvvv> #ubuntu-on-air
[15:47] <conyoo> yeah
[17:40] <josharenson> elopio: I'm taking a look at https://trello.com/c/1uw3r2ZN/111-qa-supplied-helpers-integrated-into-upstream-unity8-along-with-tests-to-indicate-break-item1-shell and was wondering if you knew where the code (https://bazaar.launchpad.net/~canonical-platform-qa/ubuntu-sanity-tests/trunk/view/head:/ubuntu_sanity_tests/helpers/unity8/shell.py) went?
[17:42] <elopio> josharenson: they renamed ubuntu-sanity-tests to ubuntu-system-tests. http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~canonical-platform-qa/ubuntu-system-tests/trunk/view/head:/ubuntu_system_tests/helpers/unity8/shell.py
[17:42] <josharenson> elopio: cool, thanks.
[17:44] <elopio> josharenson: I'm  no longer working on UI automation, so for this time zone, cachio on #ubuntu-quality is a good ally.
[17:44] <josharenson> elopio: noted, thanks
[22:22] <veebers> mzanetti: are you still around perchance?


[20:53] <plars> rsalveti: nothing with the other details about the device
[20:53] <plars> not in syslog at least
[20:53] <rsalveti> right, might be related with the older kernel running there
[20:54] <plars> yeah, still on 3.2 kernel
[20:54] <mhall119> tedg: ah ha, running it from a local branch on the commandline doesn't work, but installing it and launching it via the dash (mostly) works and gives me HUD interaction
[20:54] <plars> could see if the lab guys would be willing to try the latest lts hwe kernel if you think it would help
[20:55] <tedg> mhall119, Makes sense, installing it is what puts things in the BAMF DB.  There's a package hook.
[20:55] <rsalveti> sergiusens: mind checking https://code.launchpad.net/~rsalveti/session-manager-touch/setting-rlimit-nice/+merge/172719 ?
[20:55] <rsalveti> sergiusens: I can merge, just need an approval
[20:55] <mhall119> tedg: even after installing, it won't work when run from the branch on the commandline
[20:55] <sergiusens> rsalveti: ack, flashing fresh to test, one sec
[20:55] <tedg> mhall119, Sure, because that's not where the desktop file points.
[20:56] <mhall119> tedg: even running what the desktop file says it won't work
[20:56] <mhall119> only launching from Unity dash works
[20:57] <tedg> mhall119, Try using xdg-open on the desktop file
[20:59] <rsalveti> ricmm: were you able to retest https://code.launchpad.net/~thomas-voss/platform-api/fix-cmake-setup/+merge/168632 with mir?
[21:11] <esigolo> netsplit?
[21:32] <plars> rsalveti: I updated to the quantal lts-hwe kernel, and I see more detail in syslog now but still doesn't work on mako :(
[21:39] <rsalveti> plars: there's no reason for it to happen just with mako, or work with any other, weird
[21:39] <rsalveti> would need to debug adbd to know what is going on
[21:40] <rsalveti> but unfortunately I cannot reproduce it here
[21:40] <mhall119> tedg: xdg-open opens the .desktop file in GEdit
[21:40] <rsalveti> plars: can you check if this happens when flashing http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-touch/daily-preinstalled/20130702/ ?
[21:41] <plars> rsalveti: if what happens?
[21:41] <rsalveti> plars: this adb issue
[21:41] <plars> rsalveti: that looks like a pointer to yesterdays image?
[21:41] <rsalveti> use phablet-flash with -u pointing out this image
[21:41] <rsalveti> yeah
[21:41] <plars> oh, I get it
[21:41] <plars> sorry, I misread that
[21:42] <tedg> mhall119, Ah, bummer
[21:43] <sergiusens> rsalveti: ah, that might be a corner case, without an ubuntu_stamp, it might fail
[21:43] <plars> rsalveti, sergiusens: yeah, using -u to point at that doesn't seem to work
[21:43] <rsalveti> oh =\
[21:44] <sergiusens> rsalveti: no way to detect the build id with a full uri, I can hack something, but it's going to be a hack (lack of ws or something makes everything a hack)
[21:44] <rsalveti> then you can download and use it with --base-path
[21:44] <rsalveti> right
[21:45] <sergiusens> rsalveti: how do I get the RLIMIT_NICE warnings?
[21:46] <rsalveti> sergiusens: you should have a bunch of those already with latest image, just run dmesg
[21:46] <rsalveti> sergiusens: that's because we're not setting a nice limit for the ubuntu side based processes that use binder
[21:47] <sergiusens> rsalveti: right! got used to running logcat for everything...
[21:53] <mhall119> how can I take a screenshot on a flipped image?
[21:54] <rsalveti> screencap should still work
[21:54] <rsalveti> try /system/bin/screencap
[21:55] <mhall119> rsalveti: ah, got it
[21:55] <mhall119> I had a script that was saving it to /sdcard/screenshot.png
[21:55] <sergiusens> mhall119: jsut add /system/bin to most of what you did
[21:55] <mhall119> just had to change that to /tmp/screenshot.png
[21:56] <popey> mhall119: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~popey/+junk/phablet-flash-wrapper/view/head:/screenshot.sh
[21:56] <popey> i use that which datestamps the screenshot and saves it in your ~/Pictures on your desktop
[21:56] <mhall119> nice
[21:57] <sergiusens> popey: care to propose a phablet-screenshot script to phablet-tools?
[21:58] <ricmm> rsalveti: not yet
[21:59] <popey> sergiusens: sure, I'll tidy it up and propose
[22:01] <rsalveti> cyphermox: saw you uploaded the config fix, will rebase our package then
[22:01] <rsalveti> and test as well
[22:03] <robru> ugh, weird. I couldn't get my nexus7 to turn on just now. held the power button, held down+power, nothing. thought it was totally bricked. tried again after charging it, just nothing. then I plugged it into my laptop and ran phablet-flash and it turns on as if it was fine all along. wtf
[22:05] <sergiusens> robru: powerd might be causing issues perhaps?
[22:06] <robru> sergiusens, dunno. how would I test that? it's just flashing into the new flipped image right now
[22:06] <sergiusens> rsalveti: happroved
[22:08] <rsalveti> yeah, I noticed something like that with manta, but I believe it was due a crash in the shell
[22:10] <rsalveti> sergiusens: thanks
[22:16] <korrallis> hey guys any suggestions on which build to download for a galaxy S3 gt-i9305? i wanna test this naby out :)
[22:17] <Saviq> korrallis, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Devices should help
[22:32] <AskUbuntu> high frequency app for the Ubuntu smartphone | http://askubuntu.com/q/316068
[22:34] <ricmm> rsalveti: I have something cool for you to test in a minute!
[22:34] <rsalveti> ricmm: haha, sure
[22:47] <Wellark> tedg: no
[22:47] <Wellark> I don't grab the window id. all the actions are exported to the HUD as ALL_WINDOWS
[22:47] <tedg> Ah, so that should work on the desktop
[22:52] <Wellark> tedg: yeah, _if_ BAMF actually can match the window
[22:52] <Wellark> I have not been able to figure out how to do that
[22:52] <Wellark> to test apps on desktop without installing them
[22:52] <tedg> Wellark, I think you need to install them
[22:52] <tedg> Yeah, that's how BAMF knows about them.
[22:53] <tedg> Wellark, I need to run, but thanks for the answer there!
[23:00] <zeokila> Guys, I get this I when I try to open the calculator, does anybody have the same problem? http://paste.ubuntu.com/5841894/


[01:33] <len_> How do I change my default audio device so sound will work over hdmi
[01:33] <len_> It works for everything else in mythbuntu, just not mythtv
[01:34] <len_> It is sending audio to the default audio with is not the hdmi
[01:34] <len_> default alsa device
[01:35] <len_> ubuntu got rid of asoundconf
[01:35] <len_> and I don't see a place to specify output device in myth .23
[01:46] <len_> Anyone at their computer in here?
[02:08] <Pwen> hi all, quick question I hope: does anyone know how to permanently disable upnp?
[02:08] <Pwen> on mythtv I mean
[03:18] <tgm4883> Pwen, yes, but you left
[09:24] <hads> Hmm, what's the best way to deal with mythfrontend and pulse on a box that's also used as a desktop in 10.04?
[09:27] <hads> I upgraded a friend to 10.04 from 8.04 and he's a little perturbed. Crashes, sound sync issues and other fun things.
[09:30] <gbee> I'm having problems disabling the screensaver, it's completely disabled in gnome-screensaver-preferences but still kicks in
[09:31] <gbee> this is since upgrading to 10.04
[09:35] <gbee> it refuses to die
[09:39] <hads> I think I recall seeing something about 10.04 using xscreensaver.
[09:53] <gbee> right, uninstalled xscreensaver, lets see if that works
[10:07] <gbee> hads: thanks for the heads up, uninstalling xscreensaver did the trick
[10:12] <hads> gbee: Cool
[10:13] <gbee> xscreensaver obviously doesn't obey 'xset s off' anymore, since that didn't work
[10:13] <hads> Yeah, I think I've had arguments with that before.
[15:31] <dewman> should there be anything special I should do when going from a intel onboard video card to a nvdia video card?
[15:42] <innatech> It seems to me from reading mythbuntu.org/upgrading that I can just fire up the standard Ubuntu update manager and do a standard upgrade to get to Mythbuntu 10.04 . Is that correct?
[16:08] <superm1> innatech, yup
[16:08] <innatech> OK. Thanks!
[16:53] <dewman> I found my answer. =) much better response time going from onboard intel video to a nvidia card...even though the new video card is pci, me much happier
[17:57] <jamesch> hi, I need to update to the latest autobuild, how do I go about doing that?
[18:11] <qwebirc94110> Posted a new thread on the forum - http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1533754 - regarding 10.04 and HVR-1600's analog. If anyone would rather try to help me here, I'm open for it.
[18:21] <cesc_> hi all.. my question in not related specifically to mythtv but I hope you can help...
[18:23] <cesc_> I have installed Me Tv and I have done a scan with no success at all.. then I have made a manual scan using w_scan but i get ERROR: Sorry - i couldn't get any working frequency/transponder
[18:23] <cesc_>  Nothing to scan!!
[18:23] <ZykoticK9> cesc_, give you card details
[18:24] <cesc_> how to know if my ubuntu recognize my DVB-T card which is an AverMedia AverTV DVB-T Super 007
[19:17] <PhorceP> mythbuntu does not see my hard drive during install (nforce 430 chipset).  I was able to install Debian Lenny without issue on the same drive just last night, so this seems odd.  Any ideas?
[19:31] <innatech> So, attempting to upgrade from Lucid to 10.04 using the Update Manager has rendered my system unbootable. I'm thinking this is because dmraid has somehow been rendered inoperable (despite my root parition not being on a RAIDed disk.) When I attempt a normal boot, it freezes on error output showing that dmraid partitions couldn't be found. When I try the nodmraid cheat code, the boot freezes on a blinking cursor. Ideas?
[19:32] <tgm4883> innatech, Lucid is 10.04
[19:32] <innatech> pardon--from Karmic to Lucid.
[19:57] <innatech> Can't seem to convince the installed Grub to see my root partition--going to try booting using the 10.04 install cd.
[19:58] <mrand> innatech: this channel is definitely not the place to get timely or detailed help on that kind of  problem... I'd search the ubuntu forums personally, or maybe ask on #ubuntu, although that channel is more for easy/beginner questions.
[19:59] <innatech> mrand: Yes, I'm looking though the forums. I'm probably going to just wipe the box and start over if I can't get it to boot from the CD. Thanks for the heads up.
[20:14] <qwebirc3957> hello
[20:14] <qwebirc3957> when i try to load the live cd of Mythbuntu its just stuck at the loading screen with the white and red dots
[20:14] <qwebirc3957> the dots are moving but nothign is happening
[20:24] <jamesch> In the backend setup, the connections page is blank. is that supposed to happen? I'm using 0.24
[20:24] <jamesch> autobuild
[20:30] <qwebirc3957> !help
[20:31] <qwebirc3957> lol no idea im stuck  at the loading screen
[20:31] <qwebirc3957> i got some dots that are moving from white to red and nohing else
[20:59] <qwebirc3957> when i try to load the live cd of Mythbuntu its just stuck at the loading screen with the white and red dots
[21:08] <qwebirc3957> when i try to load the live cd of Mythbuntu its just stuck at the loading screen with the white and red dots
[21:21] <PhorceP> zeroing the drive fixed my problem
[21:30] <qwebirc3957> when i try to load the live cd of Mythbuntu its just stuck at the loading screen with the white and red dots
[22:20] <klucas> So, if I run the distro upgrade that's suggested by my mythbuntu 9.xx install will I get a mythbuntu 10.xx version or will it install regular ubuntu 10.xx?
[22:51] <qwebirc3957> is it saying it will update to mythbuntu 10.xx?
[22:51] <qwebirc3957> or just upgrade


[03:54] <kaushal_> hi
[03:55] <kaushal_> I have issues about openvpn
[03:55] <kaushal_> shall i discuss it here ?
[03:55] <kaushal_> I am on Ubuntu Linux 10.04 Desktop
[03:56] <kaushal_> I am running openvpn client in daemon mode and i have issues about DNS not getting populated to /etc/resolv.con
[03:56] <kaushal_> please suggestt
[03:57] <kaushal_> I see push "dhcp-option DOMAIN ..." in the server configs
[03:57] <kaushal_> I see # Generated by NetworkManager in /etc/resolv.conf
[03:58] <kaushal_> The NM overwrites it


[00:00] <nigel_nb> lemme see if anyone is willing
[00:24] <_marx_> some success but my time is up for now
[00:27] <nigel_nb> _marx_: got 2 people to do voice ovesr
[00:27] <nigel_nb> so, both my videos will have female voice overs :)
[00:27] <nigel_nb> you got it done?
[00:28] <_marx_> yeah, three takes
[00:28] <_marx_> will do a couple more in my am
[00:28] <nigel_nb> okay :)
[00:28] <_marx_> gotta go for now
[00:28] <Pendulum> nigel_nb: btw, i'm in here, too :)
[00:29] <nigel_nb> I noticed :)
[00:29] <Pendulum> k, wasn't sure if you knew
[00:29] <nigel_nb> I read the logs, so I get to know what goes on :)
[00:29] <Pendulum> heh
[00:29] <nigel_nb> you being here makes it all the more awesome
[00:30] <nigel_nb> so next time I know whom to turn to for emergencies ;)
[00:30] <_marx_> oops nigel_nb the pendulum is swinging...
[00:30] <nigel_nb> haha
[00:30] <_marx_> lol
[00:30] <_marx_> later yall
[00:30] <nigel_nb> later _marx_
[00:34] <Pendulum> hah
[00:38] <_marx_> Pendulum: meant as humor, your nick reminds me of the Edgar Allen Poe work
[00:39] <nigel_nb> guys, some good news
[00:40] <nigel_nb> Beginners Team has allowed us to advertise Ubuntu User Days on /topic in #ubuntu-beginners-help
[00:40] <nigel_nb> now we just need to think of something to put there :)
[00:41] <BiosElement> Ahh, Woot
[00:41] <Pendulum> _marx_: I guessed it was humour :)
[00:42] <nigel_nb> so, we'll need to tink of something short and informative to put up there.  a lot of beginners see it
[00:45] <nigel_nb> check out #ubuntu-beginners-help topic :)
[01:10] <akgraner> nigel_nb, hey I'm back now..what's up
[01:10] <nigel_nb> akgraner: wanted a female voice over for a screencast
[01:10] <nigel_nb> got some awesome volunteers from #ubuntu-women :)
[01:10] <akgraner> awesome...
[01:10] <nigel_nb> Pendulum and maco :)
[01:11] <akgraner> sorry I was away from the computer...
[01:11] <nigel_nb> no problem :)
[01:11] <akgraner> of they are prob better anyway.. I have a southern accent..:-)
[01:11] <nigel_nb> next turn is yours :P
[01:11] <akgraner> you'll get a few y'alls
[01:11] <nigel_nb> hehe
[01:11] <nigel_nb> I dont mind
[02:11] <Pendulum> nigel_nb: i'm heading to bed, but if you ping me a link to the file wherever you put it, i'll at least download it in the morning (will probably take me until the weekend to actually record anything, though, if that's okay?)
[02:12] <nigel_nb> Pendulum: no problem
[02:12] <nigel_nb> i'm just starting the second one
[02:12] <nigel_nb> will you be on IRC when u hit the bed?
[02:12] <Pendulum> okay, no worries :)
[02:12] <Pendulum> yeah, i leave it up with an away message
[02:13] <nigel_nb> okay, cool
[02:13] <nigel_nb> needs a lot of retakes
[02:13] <nigel_nb> I'm too fast
[02:13] <nigel_nb> when I see the video, I miss what I did, so I have to slow down :)
[16:26] <pleia2> nigel_nb: oops, I'm glad you got the course sorted :)
[16:26] <pleia2> nigel_nb: is it close to complete?
[16:26]  * pleia2 is looking forward to trying
[16:27] <nigel_nb> pleia2: well, now I have to unlearn what I learn and learn the new formatting
[16:27] <pleia2> it's not that much different, is it?
[16:27] <nigel_nb> a little bit, just getting comfortable
[16:27] <nigel_nb> I'll make my changes to it
[16:27]  * pleia2 nods
[16:27] <nigel_nb> and then biosElement will add the asciidoc stuff
[16:27] <pleia2> thanks for being our guinea pig :)
[16:28] <nigel_nb> I think it should be made an official position
[16:28] <pleia2> lol
[16:28] <nigel_nb> :P
[16:28] <nigel_nb> the guinea pig focus group perhaps :P
[16:28] <nigel_nb> anyway, the one good thing is this course structure works
[16:29] <nigel_nb> so I'm okay with it and hoping to finish it soon
[16:29] <nigel_nb> and I didn't get around to doing that meeting stuff, got really busy with the list of things to do
[16:30] <nigel_nb> 2morrow perhaps....hmm.. what if I bunk work today (contemplating)
[16:33] <pleia2> great :)
[18:29] <nigel_nb> BiosElement__: ping
[20:16] <BiosElement__> And of course I missed martin
[20:56] <doctormo> Gah I hate being sick, my brain just won't function right
[21:05]  * pleia2 hugs doctormo_
[21:05] <pleia2> while you were gone, nigel_nb and BiosElement worked out a formal structure :)
[21:06] <pleia2> hooray progress!
[21:06] <nigel_nb> ah, the hurray, doc is back :)
[21:06] <pleia2> they also consolidated the bzr and asciidoc documents, so we have mostly a big "dive into contributing" doc
[21:06] <pleia2> which isn't really that big ;)
[21:09] <doctormo_> hey nigel_nb
[21:09] <nigel_nb> doctormo_: how are you now?
[21:10] <nigel_nb> feeling better? heard u were sick
[21:10] <doctormo_> pleia2: Should I be worried that I've been out of action for this formal structure? since we already had one?
[21:10] <doctormo_> BiosElement: Hey are you about?
[21:11] <pleia2> doctormo_: "we" already had one? the team solidified this structure these past few days...
[21:11] <pleia2> there were two separate ones, the team put them into one, sorry this was done while you were sick but people really wanted to move forward
[21:27] <doctormo> nigel_nb, BiosElement, pleia2: Are you on skype or google video?
[21:28] <pleia2> I can do skype, but not now - have some errands to run
[21:28] <pleia2> you don't need me though :)
[21:28] <nigel_nb> google video?
[21:28] <nigel_nb> as in video chat on google or just google videos?
[21:29] <doctormo> nigel_nb: Video chat
[21:29] <nigel_nb> yep
[21:29] <nigel_nb> as long my empathy isn't acting up
[21:29] <doctormo> let me know when a good time is and what tech
[21:29] <nigel_nb> I'm okay from now on for a few hours
[21:30] <doctormo> nigel_nb: add my gmail address to your empathy
[21:36] <nigel_nb> doctormo: empathy is acting up :(
[21:37] <doctormo> nigel_nb: Time for skype?
[21:38] <nigel_nb> doctormo: probably
[21:38] <nigel_nb> is it in the repos?
[21:38] <doctormo> nigel_nb: in the medibuntu repositories
[21:38] <nigel_nb> doctormo: how do I add that one?
[21:39] <doctormo> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Medibuntu
[21:40] <nigel_nb> adding
[21:40] <nigel_nb> pleia2: will be there? would be nice to have the whole team together talking, will end a lot of confusion
[21:42] <doctormo> nigel_nb: Not at the moment, getting this sorted between us two should help a lot
[21:42] <doctormo> hopefully BiosElement will be online soon too
[21:42] <nigel_nb> yea, three of us definitely are needed
[21:42] <nigel_nb> you both need to explain stuff to me :), the official guinea pig :P
[21:43] <FFEMTcJ> hehehe
[21:45] <nigel_nb> ugg, skype stuck at 5%
[21:50] <doctormo> hey FFEMTcJ, what are you up to?
[21:50] <FFEMTcJ> nothin currently.. waiting for the big one at work
[21:50] <doctormo> nigel_nb: I'll be back in about 20mins, let me know if it's installed when I get back
[21:50] <nigel_nb> FFEMTcJ: work again? how many hours so far today
[21:50] <nigel_nb> okay
[21:51] <nigel_nb> I'll sign up in the mean time doctormo
[21:51] <FFEMTcJ> since 730 this am.. its 1650
[21:51] <nigel_nb> thats normal
[21:52] <FFEMTcJ> 14.5 hours left if my math is right
[21:54] <nigel_nb> I still wonder how you manage
[21:54] <FFEMTcJ> I wouldnt trade the schedule for the world
[21:54] <FFEMTcJ> i kinda want a day off tho
[21:55] <FFEMTcJ> i work ~100 days a year
[21:55] <nigel_nb> haha
[21:55] <nigel_nb> but hours than normal human beings :P
[21:55] <FFEMTcJ> ~2900 ish
[21:55] <FFEMTcJ> a 9-5er works 2080
[21:56] <nigel_nb> exactly my point :)
[21:57] <FFEMTcJ> hehe
[21:57] <nigel_nb> seen _marx_ around?
[21:57] <FFEMTcJ> nope
[21:57] <FFEMTcJ> you?
[21:57] <FFEMTcJ> I've never seen him
[21:57] <nigel_nb> we were getting those screencasts ready yday
[21:57] <FFEMTcJ> for?
[21:57] <nigel_nb> he had some trouble with his loco feeling that irc was too tough for beginners
[21:58] <nigel_nb> so we created screencasts to sign on from web/empathy/pidgin
[21:58] <FFEMTcJ> screencats for using irc?
[21:58] <nigel_nb> need it soon so that people get familiar before the actual class
[21:58] <_marx_> working on one now nigel_nb
[21:59]  * _marx_ had issues w/test runs
[21:59] <nigel_nb> I finished pidgin and web :)
[21:59] <nigel_nb> upload it up and asked some of the voice over volunteers to download and get back to me :)
[22:01] <FFEMTcJ> I still think we could promote lernid to use with this.. i dont think it can be any easier than this
[22:02] <nigel_nb> I spoke to jono
[22:02] <FFEMTcJ> only problem would be that it isnt in the main repos
[22:02] <nigel_nb> lernid is currently not ready for practical use
[22:02] <nigel_nb> actually, if u install right now, it won't even start up
[22:03] <FFEMTcJ> lol
[22:03] <FFEMTcJ> did he say when he thinks it may be ready for use?
[22:03] <nigel_nb> so we have to get people to download from ppa, patch it, and then use it
[22:03] <_marx_> ouch
[22:03] <nigel_nb> for beginner level classes - dicey
[22:04] <FFEMTcJ> :-(
[22:05] <nigel_nb> I told him specifically about User days and he said it would not be a good idea
[22:05] <nigel_nb> so, that one's off till next UOW
[22:09] <BiosElement> I'm back.
[22:09] <BiosElement> doctormo nigel_nb PING
[22:09] <nigel_nb> BiosElement: doc is away for 20 mins
[22:09] <BiosElement> Aight
[22:09] <nigel_nb> most probably we'll have a video chat on skype
[22:09] <nigel_nb> 3 of us I guess
[22:09] <FFEMTcJ> pong
[22:13] <BiosElement> nigel_nb: SKype may be a problem for me. Haven't gotten a chane to configure it yet.  But I want to return what every gnome fanboy says when I mentionkde :P
[22:23] <BiosElement> Bad news is I have some stuff to take care of here. I'll try to hurry back.
[22:31] <doctormo> BiosElement: Pong
[22:31] <doctormo> BiosElement: great to see you in
[22:32] <doctormo> nigel_nb: Did you add me? I'm 'doctormomartin' on skype
[22:32] <nigel_nb> doctormo: 37%
[22:34] <doctormo> nigel_nb: downloading is very slow?
[22:34] <nigel_nb> yea
[22:36] <doctormo> not to worry, I'm eating a really nice curry
[22:37] <nigel_nb> :)
[22:55] <FFEMTcJ> dobedo
[22:56] <FFEMTcJ> anyone wanna roll a package for a ppa for me.. ;-)
[23:09] <FFEMTcJ> nigel_nb: hows your bzr course going?
[23:19] <BiosElement> And I'm back. >.>
[23:40] <doctormo> BiosElement: wonderful
[23:41] <BiosElement> Yep


[00:32] <asc> Can anyone here explain how to get firewire enabled on 13.10?
[00:34] <asc> I have a brand new 13.10 install that I have not started changing yet.
[00:34] <asc> I do not see /dev/fw* or /dev/raw1394, but I do see this...
[00:35] <asc> clapp@music:~$ dmesg |grep -i fire
[00:35] <asc> [    1.939483] firewire_ohci 0000:03:05.0: added OHCI v1.0 device as card 0, 8 IR + 8 IT contexts, quirks 0x11
[06:59] <gustavo_> hi there
[07:00] <gustavo_> i need help
[07:00] <gustavo_> someone can help me ?
[07:01] <smartboyhw__> !ask | gustavo_
[07:03] <gustavo_> I installed the ubuntu studio packages on my ubuntu gnome 13.04, so, i started to recording with jackctl but i got so many xruns messages....How can I fix it ??
[12:36] <inahd> hey all, i am having a problem where configuring sound to work in jack has caused it to stop working elsewhere
[12:37] <inahd> i am using an ice1712 soundcard, and think the problem lies with pulseaudio
[12:39] <inahd> is there some way to configure pulseaudio to perhaps recognize the change to and from jack?
[12:49] <brian_> Does anyone know how to connect MIDI using Ubuntu Studio?
[12:50] <inahd> like a midi keyboard?
[12:51] <brian_> Yes
[12:52] <inahd> what do you want to connect it to?
[12:53] <brian_> Ardour looks like a good program. I am very new to Ubuntu Studio and Ubuntu in general, but it looks like it has a lot of features.
[12:53] <inahd> totally, well i assume you would like to connect the keyboard to a synth program, then route the sound into a track in ardour?
[12:54] <brian_> Yes that is right thank  you very much for your help.
[12:54] <inahd> basically you wil accomplish this through jack:
[12:54] <brian_> ok, one sec, let me open jack.
[12:55] <inahd> in the alsa tab, your device should be listed
[12:55] <inahd> then when you open a synth program (like qsynth), you should be able to connect the two
[12:56] <brian_> I don't see alsa.
[12:56] <inahd> it will be in the connections window
[12:56] <brian_> ok I found it
[12:57] <brian_> Ok I clicked connect.
[12:57] <inahd> are you connecting it to qsynth?
[12:57] <brian_> Not yet, one sec.
[12:58] <brian_> Where is qsynth on Ubuntu Studio, do you need to download it?
[12:58] <inahd> well im not sure its there... maybe fluidsynth or something
[12:59] <inahd> any spnth program
[12:59] <brian_> Ok I will find it.
[13:01] <brian_> Not seeing anything that says "synth" How do I send you a screnshot so that you can see what I see?
[13:01] <inahd> hang on let me look
[13:01] <brian_> bingo, I found qsynth?
[13:01] <brian_> .
[13:02] <brian_> I found it.
[13:03] <inahd> cool
[13:03] <brian_> Ok how do you connect qsynth?
[13:03] <inahd> so yeah open it and connect in alsa tab
[13:03] <inahd> assuming the midi device is showing there as well
[13:03] <inahd> midi on the left, qsynth on the right
[13:04] <inahd> then, you need to load soundfonts in qsynth probably
[13:04] <brian_> oh how do you do that?
[13:04] <inahd> then select the channel you want to play... and all that
[13:05] <inahd> then you route qsynth to the ardour channel you would like to record on
[13:05] <brian_> ok I see Restart, Panic, Reset, Channels,Setup, Then some Reverb menus, and Chorus Menus. Then quit, options, Messages, about.
[13:06] <inahd> setup will have a tab for loading soundfonts
[13:06] <inahd> if your midi is connected to qsynth, you will see a green light turn on when you press a key
[13:07] <brian_> Ok it is not connected yet.
[13:07] <inahd> hmm
[13:07] <inahd> is it connected in the alsa tab?
[13:07] <brian_> the screen is blank
[13:07] <brian_> yes
[13:08] <inahd> what screen is blank?
[13:08] <brian_> It says SFID Name Offset
[13:08] <brian_> then below it is blank.
[13:09] <brian_> oh wait maybe it is connected- did you mean a green light on the MIDI device?
[13:10] <inahd> no, on the main screen of qsynth
[13:10] <brian_> ok no, not yet.
[13:11] <brian_> also the MIDI device menu is greyed out.
[13:11] <inahd> in qsynth?
[13:11] <brian_> yes
[13:12] <inahd> is midi input enabled?
[13:12] <brian_> yes
[13:12] <brian_> but the MIDI Device tab is blank and greyed out.
[13:13] <brian_> This is under the MIDI tab.
[13:13] <inahd> oh thats fine i think
[13:13] <brian_> ok
[13:13] <inahd> midi driver selected?
[13:14] <brian_> there is an open tab under soundfonts, should we try that?
[13:14] <inahd> yes, load the soundfonts
[13:15] <brian_> ok now I see FluidR3_GM.sf2 and TimGM6mb.sf2
[13:15] <inahd> /usr/share/sounds/sf2
[13:15] <inahd> yes the fluid file
[13:15] <inahd> load it
[13:16] <brian_> Ok it's loaded.
[13:17] <brian_> I still don't see a green light though.
[13:17] <brian_> I think we are getting close however.
[13:17] <inahd> is jack actually running? did it start
[13:18] <brian_> After I clicked on the connect button it greyed out.
[13:18] <inahd> but in jack main window, did you click start?
[13:19] <brian_> oh! no, I don't think I did, one sec.
[13:19] <brian_> Where do you find start?
[13:19] <brian_> I see it, but it's greyed out.
[13:20] <inahd> so then its probably started
[13:20] <brian_> ok
[13:21] <brian_> hmm, this is  a puzzle.
[13:21] <inahd> it always is
[13:21] <brian_> Yes.
[13:22] <inahd> hmm
[13:22] <inahd> don't know what to tell you
[13:23] <brian_> Ok well you really tried hard to help me. I appreciate all of your efforts.
[13:23] <inahd> you might have to fiddle with the channels or something, select another sound. though that green light on the bottom left of qsynth should be lighting up at this point
[13:24] <brian_> I don't even see the green light, maybe I just need to look for it.
[13:24] <inahd> it turns on when you press keys
[13:25] <inahd> its a small black circle next to the qsynth1 tab in the bottom left of qsynth
[13:25] <brian_> ok I see that.
[13:25] <brian_> But it hasn't turned green yet.
[13:26] <inahd> if it doesnt light up, it means your midi keyboard isn't communicating with qsynth properly
[13:26] <brian_> ok
[13:26] <inahd> it only lights up when the keys are pressed
[13:26] <brian_> ok
[13:26] <brian_> I am using wine
[13:26] <inahd> probably means that something is wrong in jack
[13:26] <brian_> ok
[13:26] <inahd> wine for what?
[13:27] <brian_> the MIDI software, do you think that makes a difference? I have MIDI uno
[13:27] <inahd> i dont know what that is
[13:27] <brian_> oh
[13:27] <brian_> Ok wine helps Ubuntu run windows software.
[13:28] <inahd> i mean the midi uno
[13:28] <brian_> oh
[13:29] <brian_> ok it is a cable connecting the keyboard to the computer.
[13:29] <inahd> hmm
[13:29] <inahd> you shouldn't need wine for that
[13:29] <brian_> There is a green light for it that does turn on when I press keys.
[13:29] <inahd> is my guess
[13:29] <brian_> ok
[13:29] <inahd> in the wine software?
[13:30] <inahd> or the keyboard?
[13:30] <brian_> no on the cable.
[13:30] <inahd> oh
[13:31] <inahd> my only guess is that you aren't connecting the keyboard to qsynth properly in jack
[13:31] <brian_> ok
[13:32] <brian_> well it didn't used to turn on so I think we got somewhere.
[13:33] <brian_> There is a setting we might work with in Jack.
[13:33] <brian_> It says 14: MIDI Through. I think it came with Alsa.
[13:33] <inahd> no thats not what you want
[13:34] <brian_> My midi interface says 24:USB Uno MIDI Interface.
[13:34] <brian_> yes how do you remove that?
[13:34] <inahd> you dont
[13:34] <brian_> ok
[13:34] <inahd> but its not what you connect to qsynth
[13:34] <brian_> ok.
[13:35] <brian_> do you connect Ardour to qsynth?
[13:35] <inahd> any other options, on the left side of the alsa tab?
[13:35] <brian_> yes, 128:ardour.
[13:36] <brian_> I don't think it is connected.
[13:36] <brian_> And one the right hand side there is 130:fluidsynth.
[13:36] <inahd> there should be one for your midi keyboard on the left
[13:37] <inahd> try plugging it in again?
[13:37] <brian_> ok
[13:37] <brian_> it's greyed out.
[13:37] <inahd> what about in jack settings... selecting a midi device
[13:37] <inahd> i have 'seq' selected
[13:38] <brian_> Maybe, where do you find jack settings?
[13:38] <inahd> setup button, settings tab
[13:39] <inahd> on the bottom right of the settings tab is a midi device option
[13:40] <brian_> ok I see usr, share, sounds, sf2
[13:40] <brian_> on my left, nothing on my right.
[13:41] <brian_> under sounds there is alsa, freedesktop,gnome,opl3,sf2 and ubuntustudio.
[13:43] <inahd> are you in the qsynth setup?
[13:43] <brian_> yes
[13:43] <inahd> check the jack setup
[13:43] <inahd> there is a settings tab
[13:43] <brian_> ok
[13:43] <inahd> on the bottom right is midi device
[13:43] <brian_> found it, it says seq.
[13:44] <inahd> cool
[13:44] <inahd> well i am out of ideas
[13:44] <brian_> Ok. again, thanks for everything.
[13:44] <inahd> maybe someone else can offer you better help
[13:44] <inahd> dont give up!
[13:44] <brian_> Thanks
[13:45] <brian_> take care, I am sure that I will see yo again sometime.
[13:47] <inahd> can anyone help me bring up seq24 in the alsa tab of jack?
[13:47] <inahd> starting it with --manual_alsa_ports used to work for me
[15:54] <khaz> Hi guys, I'm new to Ubuntu Studio (13.04) and I have a problem playing audio/video files when my Rocksmith cable is plugged in. How can I use my cable and play files at the same time?
[16:00] <khaz> and the computer becomes quite unresponsive when I just  yank it out. I need to reboot now I guess
[16:01] <zequence> khaz: What are you using it with? jack?
[16:10] <khaz> So anyone knows?
[16:14] <DarkEra> khaz, zequence asked before you went for a reboot: What are you using it with? jack?
[16:14] <khaz> yes
[16:14] <khaz> jack and rakarrack
[16:16] <khaz> (I'm quite new to this whole music with computers)
[16:17] <khaz> but even when jack is not started, simply having the cable plugged in bar any multimedia file to play
[16:45] <zequence> khaz: Probably you need to use both your internal card and the cable at the same time with jack
[16:45] <zequence> khaz: I don't know much about that myself, but you could ask about it on #jack
[16:45] <khaz> thank you
[16:45] <zequence> maybe len-k knows?
[18:48] <Chrono_> hello
[18:49] <Chrono_> What is jackd2?
[18:49] <Chrono_> I am receiving a option if I want to enable realtime process priority
[18:52] <Chrono_> anyone there?
[19:11] <holstein> Chrono_: hello..
[19:11] <holstein> Chrono_: do you need JACK? if you are not using it, i wouldnt bother installing it
[19:11] <Chrono_> ah, heya holstein
[19:12] <holstein> enabling "realtime priority" is just that... if you are going to use JACK, for low latency audio, you would want to enable JACK for realtime process
[19:12] <holstein> there is no reason to not setup jack for realtime
[19:12] <Chrono_> ah ok, just installed 12.04, new to linux, watched a video on it and it seems a lot of the applications are a bit out of date
[19:13] <holstein> if you are not running jack, it is not running.. so by selecting "set up with realtime" you are not harming anything
[19:13] <holstein> Chrono_: 12.04 is from april.. 2012
[19:13] <zequence> Well, strictly speaking, there is no reason not to enable realtime for jack, unless you are worried about very unlikely security concerns
[19:13] <holstein> the ".04" is april.. the "12" is 2012
[19:13] <zequence> That is the only reason the user is asked about it
[19:13] <holstein> the applications are from that time
[19:13] <holstein> Chrono_: if you want newer packages, get the newer release
[19:14] <holstein> Chrono_: i think you will find there is nothing too far out of date about 12.04
[19:14] <zequence> But, answering yes while installing jackd is only one half of the enablement. User also needs to be a part of audio group
[19:19] <Chrono_> how does changing versions with linux work?
[19:19] <Chrono_> does it require a full reinstall?  (going from 12.04 to 13.04?
[19:19] <holstein> Chrono_: you can upgrade.. or just reinstall
[19:20] <holstein> Chrono_: i find, an upgrade takes a few hours.. and an install takes about 15 minutes.. so i usually just keep my data backed up, and do fresh installs
[19:20] <Chrono_> ah ok
[19:20] <holstein> Chrono_: you can also say "i find the version of x out of date in ubuntustudio 12.04" and we could discuss what that means, and how to "fix" that
[19:20] <holstein> !ppa | Chrono_
[19:21] <Chrono_> I have much to learn :-p
[19:21] <holstein> ^^ using ppa's is an easy way to add newer versions of packages, or packages that are *not* in the default repositories.. though, there can be issues (breakages, and since we dont provide the packages, we cant provide support)
[19:22] <holstein> OR, we can talk about officially backporting.. such as backporting fixes, or backporting things like ardour3 to 12.04 (which i dont think is going to specifically happen)
[19:23] <holstein> OR, in the case of ardour, you can go to the ardour site and download ardour3 (like i personally did for my 12.04 main studio rig)
[19:24] <Chrono_> as a new user to linux, would you recommend I stay on 12 or go to 13?
[19:25] <holstein> Chrono_: i would recommend you look at your personal needs and decide what you want/need
[19:25] <holstein> there is no real compelling reason to strongly do either over the other
[19:26] <holstein> !12.04
[19:26] <Chrono_> !13.04
[19:26] <holstein> the LTS, 12.04 version is supported for longer, and is stable, and the audio packages are older, but they are not drastically out of date
[19:27] <holstein> 13.04 is stable too, however.. but it will not be suppoted as long..
[19:27] <holstein> i have 12.04 installed from 2012.. if i were installing a fresh rig today, i would probably go with 13.04.. since i will be installing 14.04 for sure
[19:28] <holstein> Chrono_: try them both live
[19:28] <holstein> install them both.. dual boot
[19:28] <Chrono_> ok
[19:29] <Chrono_> I have ran ubuntu 13.04 but didnt like how amazon is part of the OS (not sure what the studio version is like)
[19:29] <Chrono_> I want an OS, not a shopping center :-p
[19:29] <holstein> Chrono_: sure
[19:30] <holstein> Chrono_: you are search about how to remove that, if you dont want it. or use a different DE, launcher, or software center/package manager.. or different distro
[19:30] <holstein> you can*
[19:31] <holstein> you can check out most of the linux distros live these days.. i usually just try them out before installing
[19:56] <zequence> Chrono_: It's very easy to disable that in Unity
[19:56] <zequence> Chrono_: I mean, the Amazon search results
[19:57] <zequence> But, what I find much more bothering is that your searches are being sent to Canonical
[19:57] <zequence> Also that can be disabled
[19:57] <zequence> None of these exist on Ubuntu Studio though
[19:57] <Chrono_> good, that was my concern, is my privacy at risk
[19:57] <zequence> On Unity, you can just go to System Settings -> Privacy
[19:57] <zequence> From there you can disable both
[19:58] <zequence> We are thinking of adding Unity as one choice for Ubuntu Studio, but with these things disabled
[19:59] <Chrono_> I'm looking at a large range of distro's, im a big time gamer and I know linux is limited, so I want to use linux for music and 3D Rendering
[19:59] <Chrono_> Life for me has become a bit stagmid and decided to try something new


[01:41] <Ramseize> weebee
[02:03] <Ramseize> weebee purserj
[02:11] <mark2> gm
[03:16] <jepong> yo wassup!?
[12:43] <locodir-user> hi sir and mam
[13:40] <EroSenninJL> hello everyone!!!
[13:41] <EroSenninJL> happy hearts day in a few hours.. hehehe
[13:56] <rstacruz> sup wers
[13:56] <wers> rstacruz: heyy
[13:57] <wers> have you tried the latest GNOME Shell? with Auto-Workspaces
[13:58] <rstacruz> nope
[13:58] <rstacruz> how?
[13:58] <rstacruz> :p
[13:58] <rstacruz> may ppa ba for maverick amd64?
[13:59] <wers> unfortunately, wala e. hehe
[13:59] <wers> you can learn about it here http://jimmac.musichall.cz/log/?p=1126
[14:00] <wers> galing ng concept. no empty workspaces. better than status quo, even Spaces
[14:01] <rstacruz> may bago akong ubuntu practice na sinusunod
[14:01] <rstacruz> hehe
[14:01] <rstacruz> instead of upgrading to another ubuntu version
[14:01] <rstacruz> clean install
[14:02] <rstacruz> tapos keep a log of what I did:
[14:02] <rstacruz> https://gist.github.com/824701
[14:06] <wers> ah yeah. I always do clean installs too
[14:06] <wers> but this log is awesome. haha
[14:07] <rstacruz> oo manually maintained
[14:07] <rstacruz> hehe
[14:07] <rstacruz> copy-pasta nalang
[14:07] <wers> kala ko, may script ka. haha
[14:07] <rstacruz> nde, OCness lang
[14:07] <wers> hehe
[14:07] <wers> what's the "-y"  on apt-get install?
[14:08] <rstacruz> yes
[14:08] <wers> ooh
[14:08] <rstacruz> auto-yes yung mga "... (y/n)?"  :D
[16:49] <EroSenninJL> anything i've missed?
[16:53] <EroSenninJL> hi epal
[19:50] <EroSenninJL> helloy


[04:06] <lotuspsychje> good morning
[04:10] <akemhp> Good morning every one.
[04:11] <akemhp> I ordered a very Linux friendly Wifi device https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07FCN6WGX/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
[04:11] <akemhp> It even has the Debian and Ubuntu logos on the pic :P
[04:12] <akemhp> USB 3, 2.4 and 5 Ghz, should be all fine.
[04:13] <lotuspsychje> hey akem
[04:14] <akemhp> Hoy lotuspsychje ;)
[04:14] <lotuspsychje> brostrend hmm never heared of it
[04:14] <lotuspsychje> akemhp: when you have the device, please lsusb it to us
[04:15] <akemhp> Ok.
[04:15] <akemhp> I didn't know about it either before i read some article.
[04:15] <akemhp> But it looks good on the paper.
[04:16] <akemhp> It's rare to have devices like that with explicit Linux mention.
[04:16] <lotuspsychje> true
[05:02] <lotuspsychje> added bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1894391 to the ubuntu discuss team, will be interesting to watch unfold
[06:27] <ducasse> good morning
[06:33] <guiverc> G'day ducasse
[19:41] <lk> thanks lotus