[01:57] <damnation> apparantly the wpc54gv3 (what i have) works on linux's list @ https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards
[01:57] <andi5> SillyRabbit: metacity ;-)
[01:57] <SillyRabbit> andi5 lol
[01:57] <andi5> and i had a lot of alternatives running :)
[01:58] <Peregrino> skippy81: mhhhh that could be my problem... I'll take a look to the man udev documentation ^^
[01:58] <kevin1> I am getting authentication failed when attempting to run sawfish
[01:58] <gnut1> anyone having aMule .met file problems?
[01:58] <kermitX_> switching desktop environments with apt-get: see http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/index.php
[01:58] <grasshopper> Rug: i like reason c) best hehe
[01:58] <kevin1> I have killed metacity, but I loaded sawfish from apt-get
[01:58] <selaiah> My Screen isnt centered properly (right side is out of screen's range) anyone know what i can do about it?
[01:58] <SillyRabbit> andi5:  how can I check which wm I have ?
[01:59] <andi5> SillyRabbit: ps ax | grep [m] etacity
[01:59] <skippy81> Peregrino:  you really should get dapper, me and most of the people in this chatroom use it now, so it will be much easier for you to get techical advice about dapper
[01:59] <Rug> grasshopper: hehe sorry I can't give you a valid reason WHY.  I have had more headaches trying to work with aptitude, then apt.
[01:59] <disinterested_pe> and1.5 no mines not listed
[02:00] <skippy81> selaiah:  most monitors have controls for changing v pos and height
[02:00] <nickrud> selaiah, use the monitor controls to shift it back?
[02:00] <kevin1> can anyone tell me what authenciation failed means... File erorr: no such file or directory, debian-menu
[02:01] <disinterested_pe> hummmm billy preston died today
[02:01] <SillyRabbit> kevin1:  what fs do you use ?
[02:01] <grasshopper> Rug: Mr. Shuttleworth was saying that smart might be the installer of future releases. The code for apt-get slowly getting a bit crusty?
[02:01] <Peregrino> skippy81: OK I'll start downloading it this night ;) BTW, the differences between the two releases are so big?
[02:01] <SillyRabbit> disinterested_pe:  yeah, sad....
[02:01] <andi5> disinterested_pe: was hard to see that you meant me :) .... next thing is to open terminal and spawn xev.... type your control and see whether the terminal prints something... if it does, then you only need to go to the key bindings control
[02:01] <Peregrino> Kant: Hi!
[02:01] <Rug> grasshopper: oh noes!   well fudge.  Back to debian for me then
[02:01] <neodrummer> ppl how do i download with apt-get?
[02:02] <bobby> sorry gunts im bkc
[02:02] <Flannel> neodrummer: you looking to just download? or install as well?
[02:02] <bobby> back*
[02:02] <nickrud> neodrummer, basically you type apt-get install <packagename> in a terminal
[02:02] <Rug> neodrummer: in terminal type:    sudo apt-get install PROGRAM-NAME
[02:02] <gnut1> welcome back, did it work?
[02:02] <neodrummer> first time i use this
[02:02] <gnomefreak> neodrummer: sudo apt-get install <app>   <app>=whatever app you want
[02:02] <disinterested_pe> andi.5 ive got no idea of how to do that
[02:02] <HellDragon> is there any thing to watch my motherboard,cpu and gpu's temperature ?
[02:02] <neodrummer> so probably also install
[02:02] <disinterested_pe> i know terminal though
[02:02] <bobby> no
[02:02] <bobby> i still cant find it
[02:02] <andi5> disinterested_pe: there is no dot in my name :) so enter xev and press enter
[02:03] <rjian> ie need help how to share internet connection with two network cards??
[02:03] <disinterested_pe> ok
[02:03] <Rya1> hello all.
[02:03] <voraistos> lo
[02:03] <SillyRabbit> rjian:  i have two cards and they work np
[02:03] <gnomefreak> anyone know the command to refresh menus?
[02:04] <nickrud> gnomefreak, update-menus
[02:04] <SillyRabbit> gnomefreak:  ctrl-alt-backspace
[02:04] <gnomefreak> ty nickrud
[02:04] <gnomefreak> SillyRabbit: thats X
[02:04] <nickrud> gnomefreak, but I just killall gnome-panel, mostly
[02:04] <kermitX_> rjian, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InternetConnectionSharing
[02:04] <grogoreo> hi
[02:04] <gnut1> bobby, you get an IM?
[02:05] <gnomefreak> nickrud: that didnt work
[02:05] <disinterested_pe> andi5 it printed out a bunch of stuff
[02:05] <SillyRabbit> does anyone know how to run Trillian on Linux/Ubuntu ?
[02:05] <grogoreo> does anyone know how I can get my scroller and two function buttons to work on my Wacom Graphire4 using Dapper?
[02:05] <_rif> hii all
[02:05] <_rif> what defferent hoary and breezy?
[02:05] <kevin1> Has anyone here changed window managers with gnome?
[02:05] <andi5> SillyRabbit: by switching to gaim
[02:05] <SillyRabbit> andi5:  not secure
[02:05] <gnomefreak> nickrud: i think this is an enlightenment agaist everyother desktop
[02:05] <andi5> SillyRabbit: why that?
[02:05] <ryan_mc> quick question: When I open an avi from an samba share, it launches with Totem, but won't play. How do I configure gnome to open the media with VLC?
[02:06] <SillyRabbit> andi5 - it does not have a "secure" mode like Trillian offers.....
[02:06] <gnut1> dapper can't understand the unicode of my amule server.met file, any solutions?
[02:06] <dra> I installed the nvidia driver with the wiki instructions. Works very well, however, the development files (/usr/include/GL/*) are still those from the mesa project. What's the trick?
[02:06] <mjr> rjian, installing the ipmasq package from universe should be an easy way to do that
[02:06] <andi5> SillyRabbit: oh, there are plugins... but if you have trillian users you want to speak to within trillian, then you will _need_ trillian :)
[02:06] <voraistos> gnomefreak: just kill X ;)ryan_mc: as far as i know, VLC doent support samba
[02:06] <Subhuman> SillyRabbit, gaim is secure if you use a SOCKS proxy with it like TOR
[02:06] <gnomefreak> voraistos: that didnt work
[02:06] <TheAsp> dra: that should be normal
[02:07] <nickrud> gnomefreak, I am not going to mess with e17 anymore, it's just too crappy
[02:07] <SillyRabbit> Subhuman:  oh, can I talk to my existing "trillian users that way"...? that would be great !
[02:07] <painkiler> hey guys
[02:07] <wastrel> hello
[02:07] <gnomefreak> this is E16 atm that i was playing with
[02:07] <painkiler> how do i format my harddrive with fdisk?
[02:07] <ryan_mc> gnomefreak: hmmm.. its in the preferences...
[02:07] <soundray> dra, have you installed nvidia-glx-dev? Not sure, but it sounds like it may solve your prob.
[02:07] <dra> TheAsp: doesn't nvidia-glx usually come with their own headers?
[02:07] <painkiler> i am on ubuntu live cd atm
[02:07] <voraistos> gnomefreak: reinstall ubuntu ? (if that still doesnt work, i cant help :P )
[02:07] <dra> soundray: I installed that, yep
[02:07] <ryan_mc> i'll try a copy/paste to open with vlc... one sec
[02:07] <SillyRabbit> andi5:  y, that is why i am asking about trillian....you use it?  or ever get it to work in WINE ?
[02:08] <nickrud> krazykit, you don't know how hard that was to say, I loved e16 when I started with linux
[02:08] <gnomefreak> with e16 you middle click and refresh menus it will give you a user menu in E but it killed my flux/xfce menus
[02:08] <Flannel> _rif: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/releasenotes/510  but, DAPPER is the current one (one after breezy), and those changes can be found here: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/releasenotes/606
[02:08] <soundray> dra, that was no use, sorry
[02:08] <gnomefreak> voraistos: its fixed ty tho ;)
[02:08] <andi5> SillyRabbit: i installed it once in windows, but it was just deinstalled just as fast
[02:08] <TheAsp> dra: i dont think
[02:08] <krazykit> nickrud: well, e17 is still not even alpha code :-P.  check back around september... the goal is to be alpha by then
[02:08] <ryanpg> hi all... I'm a teacher and I think I'd like to encorporate MUDs into my summer school curriculum... is there an IRC channel I could visit to learn more?
[02:09] <SillyRabbit> andi5:  y, wine is an awesome concept but, it is very complicated and doesn't seem to work very well...
[02:09] <meta-ridley> great concept except not
[02:09] <meta-ridley> ;)
[02:09] <painkiler> how do i format my second drive with fdisk?
[02:09] <andi5> SillyRabbit: awesome concept.... hm.... if you think that
[02:09] <painkiler> what is the command to erase it and change it to ext3?
[02:09] <bootlick> To restart the gnome, I type ?
[02:09] <SillyRabbit> andi5:  ? yes ?
[02:10] <Flannel> ryanpg: suggest asking in #ubuntu-offtopic
[02:10] <ryanpg> Flannel, ty
[02:10] <SillyRabbit> andi5:  unless you know how to run ITUNES otherwise ? please let  me know....
[02:10] <dra> TheAsp: sorry I'm pretty much a damn newbie, seems I'm missing the xorg-dev ;)
[02:10] <soundray> painkiler: fdisk is for creating partitions. To create an ext3 filesystem, you use mke2fs -j
[02:10] <Hobart_> painkiler -> The Linux fdisk command is only for setting up the partitions, formatting is done separately.  There's a graphical utility if you would prefer that, let me look
[02:10] <nickrud> krazykit, you give me hope :)
[02:11] <andi5> SillyRabbit: well, i do not need itunes, so no, i cannot..... btw, gotta leave, it is late
[02:11] <gnomefreak> bootlick: log out and back in or use ctrl+alt+backspace   depends on what you want to re-start gnome for
[02:11] <krazykit> nickrud: but then again, i've been using e17 as my primary WM for 8ish months ;-)
[02:11] <SillyRabbit> andi5:  cheers
[02:11] <bootlick> just added some new software, and it should show up on a restart
[02:11] <painkiler> oh, bootlick, just reset your computer
[02:11] <gnomefreak> bootlick: killall gnome-panel will restart gnomes menu
[02:12] <SillyRabbit> nickrud:  what kind of people ?
[02:12] <paul_> I have to admit dapper drake is da bomb if I say so myself. I don't care how hard it was to install. lol
[02:12] <nickrud> SillyRabbit, people who use alpha-1 software for work
[02:12] <bootlick> thanks gnomefreak
[02:12] <Penguin> ok how do I upgrade Firefox to <IP_ADDRESS>?
[02:12] <gnomefreak> yw bootlick
[02:12] <SillyRabbit> paul_:  true dat
[02:12] <damnation> guys, i have a WPC54G wifi pcmcia card in my laptop, how do i get it working in linux? also what software do i use to utilise it ?
[02:12] <damnation> apparantly the wpc54gv3 (what i have) works on linux's list @ https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards
[02:12] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell Penguin -about ff1.5
[02:12] <nickrud> bbl
[02:12] <dra> TheAsp: Ok, got it working...
[02:12] <SillyRabbit> nickrud:  i hear u bro
[02:12] <krazykit> nickrud: it's the longest i've stuck with a WM.  i went kde>gnome>xfce>fluxbox... then i switched between fluxbox and e17 for awhile, and i've stuck iwht e17 now.  my desktop wasn't horribly mission critical.  i could always type papers and stuff on other computers >_>
[02:12] <painkiler> I just need to reformat my drive... Then change the system to ext3...
[02:12] <selaiah> How can i read (not write) files on a NTFS file system?
[02:13] <painkiler> selaiah, you can't
[02:13] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell selaiah -about ntfs
[02:13] <krazykit> painkiler: wrong.  reading is fine.
[02:13] <gnomefreak> painkiler: yes you can
[02:13] <SillyRabbit> damnation:  i have never had any luck with wireless nic's on linux......sorry
[02:13] <painkiler> wow, the world changes
[02:13] <gnomefreak> selaiah: read your pm it will tell you ;)
[02:13] <selaiah> okay thank you! =)
[02:13] <gnomefreak> yw
[02:14] <meta-ridley> test
[02:14] <rjian> how will i config ipmasq?
[02:14] <soundray> rjian: use a front end, like firestarter
[02:14] <soundray> !firestarter
[02:14] <ubotu> Ubuntu has, like every other linux distribution, firewalling built into the kernel. A simple frontend to this firewall is firestarter, which can be installed via synaptic.
[02:15] <Hobart_> Has anyone here successfully installed Dapper to a USB flash drive?
[02:15] <painkiler> thanx guys, I worked it out on my own...
[02:15] <Hobart_> Found some old docs on the subject ...
[02:15] <krazykit> Hobart_: you'd want to build your usb support into the kernel.
[02:15] <krazykit> leave everything else modular
[02:15] <mike__> when will we be able to use project looking glass?
[02:16] <nuambenzina> ubotu tell nuambenzina -about ntfs
[02:16] <damnation> lol, good to know, luckyrabbit :(
[02:16] <Marineboy> !ntfs
[02:16] <ubotu> to automatically mount your NTFS partition: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions there is no write support for ntfs that is safe. <!winfstab>
[02:16] <Penguin> How do I do it?
[02:16] <Hobart_> krazykit: D'oh.  So kernel rebuild required. :\
[02:16] <SillyRabbit> damnation:  un-lucky rabbit
[02:16] <ryan_mc> gnomefreak: you're right it won't open smb media... how can I get this to work?
[02:16] <krazykit> Hobart_: no, but it's the easiest thing, IMO
[02:16] <santiagokq> i upgraded to dapper and now openoffice2 quickstart doesn't work anymore... i open ooo2, go to options memory quickstart, check the box and click ok, but when i go to the setting again it's still unchecked... and it obviously doesn't quickstart... what should i do?
[02:17] <krazykit> mike__: when the XGL or whatever 3d-x-server backend matures enough.
[02:17] <Andy_> anyone know how to get orinoco gold a/b/g wireless card to work in ubuntu
[02:17] <bootlick> Whats a good/mIRC like GNOME irc client to use?
[02:17] <rjian> ive already install firestarter wat next?
[02:17] <krazykit> bootlick: xchat...
[02:17] <SillyRabbit> damnation:  but, i admit i haven't tried wireless w/ drake - and this os surprises with its capibilities every day....smb worked straight away...amazing
[02:17] <bootlick> xchat seems so different, cant right click on a username and get user info
[02:18] <william__> my install with wireless was 0 config
[02:18] <franky123> hi, i've got a problem with my laptop overheating and hanging. it's got a celeron M so no "speed step" but i'm sure you can change the frequency while the OS is running (windows does). so i look in /cpu0 and there is no cpufreq ... how do i install it?
[02:18] <william__> I did absolutely nothing and was wireless and on here
[02:18] <inignot> I installed xubuntu - and the release notes are very accurate, my menu was eaten. I followed the instructins and removed the menu.xml file and restarted, but the menu is still not there. I see something when I click so it seems like the menu is there, but the size attributes are so small nothing can be seen. Any one know how to fix this? This is a major problem given there is no menu to use. I could really use some help.
[02:18] <Rug> bootlick: blow your mind, use irssi
[02:18] <krazykit> bootlick: /whois user :-P
[02:18] <SillyRabbit> ubuntu drake is heads above anything i have ever used.....it's brilliant
[02:18] <Penguin> how do I setup wlan on my laptop. I have a Dell Wireless 1350
[02:18] <bootlick> irssi, will try that, thanks Rug
[02:18] <santiagokq> i upgraded to dapper and now openoffice2 quickstart doesn't work anymore... i open ooo2, go to options memory quickstart, check the box and click ok, but when i go to the setting again it's still unchecked... and it obviously doesn't quickstart... what should i do ?
[02:19] <Rug> bootlick: irssi is hard-core old-school IRC'ing
[02:19] <SillyRabbit> Rug:  better than xchat ?
[02:19] <selaiah> Mp3, mpg and avi files cant be played atm. Can someone point me as to where i can download the required codecs?
[02:19] <Rug> SillyRabbit: hell yeah
[02:19] <Rug> xchais the MS Windows of Linux IRC clients
[02:19] <soundray> santiagokq: have you got ooqstart-gnome installed?
[02:19] <DarkMageZ> !tell selaiah about restrictedformats
[02:19] <hyphenated> ubotu: tell selaiah about restrictedformats
[02:19] <rjian> ive already install firestarter wats next to do?
[02:19] <Rug> xchat rather
[02:20] <selaiah> thank you guys
[02:20] <santiagokq> soundray: if i install that, it asks me to uninstall ubuntu-desktop!
[02:20] <SillyRabbit> Rug:  seriously, why?  or, better question is: is it better for a newbie - xchat is pretty simple..
[02:20] <soundray> santiagokq: you can do that, it won't do any harm.
[02:20] <santiagokq> soundray: and i had it working in breezy, without that package
[02:20] <krazykit> santiagokq: it's ok.  ubuntu-desktop not necessary, despite what it sounds like
[02:20] <Rug> Irssi is not newbie friendly, it's a very powerfull scriptable client.  if you are not intimidated by commadline, then I recommend it
[02:21] <pvangarde> how do I find out the version of gcc that was used to build my kernel?
[02:21] <Flannel> Rug: I don't see how it isn't newbie friendly.
[02:21] <krazykit> pvangarde: are you using ubuntu's default 2.6.15?  if so, it's gcc4
[02:21] <earthen> can I install the server edition from the normal install cd?
[02:21] <rjian> can anyone help  me about firestarter?
[02:21] <Rug> Flannel: simple:  there are no icons to click
[02:21] <Andy_> Please help:  Getting ubuntu to be able to connect with my Orinoco a/b/g wireless card?
[02:21] <SillyRabbit> Flannel:  may I ask what chat client you use ?
[02:21] <santiagokq> soundray: it also asks me to uninstall openoffice-gnome... i don't think it should need to do that
[02:22] <Flannel> SillyRabbit: chat? for irc? or for AIm/etc?
[02:22] <pvangarde> krazykit: thanks
[02:22] <SillyRabbit> Flannel:  chat
[02:22] <Flannel> SillyRabbit: right, which kind of chatting?
[02:22] <pvangarde> can anyone help me with installing the nvidia driver ? please
[02:22] <Rug> IRC or IM
[02:22] <Flannel> SillyRabbit: I use irssi for IRC, and centerICQ for the IM protocols
[02:22] <SillyRabbit> Flannel:  sorry, like we are going right now....
[02:22] <krazykit> ubotu: tell pvangarde about nvidia
[02:22] <william__> hello all,  Ive got everything working except my resolution is really low and I've followed the instructions for RestrictedBinaryNvidia
[02:22] <santiagokq> rjian: what do you need about firestarter?
[02:23] <rjian> how to setup it?
[02:23] <franky123> advice? powernowd isn't working because there is no cpufreq in the /sys/.../cpu0 so how do i install the cpufreq module, or how do i make sure i dont have it before i start?
[02:23] <Flannel> SillyRabbit: if you're looking for a GUI one, xchat is good.
[02:23] <rjian> they said its an easy way to share internet connection to the network
[02:23] <krazykit> franky123: what processor?
[02:23] <SillyRabbit> Flannel:  y, that is what I am using and it seem great to me........
[02:23] <soundray> santiagokq: hm, it seems that the packages are buggy. As a workaround, you could add ooffice to the startup programs (System-Preferences-Session)
[02:23] <pvangarde> krazykit: no, i'd like to install the nvidia driver from nvidia.com is that not possible?
[02:23] <Rug> SillyRabbit: then keep using it.
[02:23] <Flannel> SillyRabbit: because I don't have a GUI on this box.  yeah, keep using xchat.
[02:23] <krazykit> pvangarde: it's possible.  i just don't know how
[02:24] <santiagokq> soundray: ok thanks, where can i get the startup commandline parameter?
[02:24] <franky123> krazykit: celeron M. i know it doesn't have speedstep, but i read somewhere you can still change frequency, and windows can, so i'm assuming its possible
[02:24] <santiagokq> soundray: btw will it be persistent after i close all ooo2 instances?
[02:24] <SillyRabbit> Rug: Flannel: will do, cheers
[02:24] <william__> can anyone help me troubleshoot why my Nvidia drivers didnt work even after the RestrictedBinarys?
[02:24] <Rug> SillyRabbit: thanks for keeping an open mind and using openSource
[02:24] <Andy_> or is the orinoco gold a/b/g card not supported
[02:24] <SillyRabbit> Flannel:  serious,,,,no gui?  not much fun, eh :)
[02:24] <pvangarde> does anyone know how to install the nvidia driver from nvidia.com?
[02:24] <rjian> how to use the firestarter?
[02:25] <bullrage> Anybody know why I can't get sound in Flash Player 7?
[02:25] <Flannel> SillyRabbit: oh, plenty of fun.
[02:25] <william__> pvangarde:  dont use the driver from nvidia.com
[02:25] <santiagokq> soundray: remember that right now, i can't even configure it inside ooo2... seems like there's a bug with the program itself
[02:25] <krazykit> franky123: `sudo modprobe p4_clockmod`   ... make sure to edit /etc/modules and add the p4_clockmod line.
[02:25] <mcrandello> I need some help, the usb subsytem died is there any way to restart it without restarting the whole machine?
[02:25] <SillyRabbit> Rug:  loving this os....it blows me away
[02:25] <pvangarde> william__: why not?
[02:25] <Rug> SillyRabbit: great to hear,  convert a friend
[02:25] <william__> I dunno why I said anything I have no idea what Im doing :P
[02:25] <Penguin> How come I keep get msgs that say I don't have permissions? I'm the only user
[02:25] <william__> dont listen to me lol
[02:25] <soundray> santiagokq: it won't be persistent, and you don't need startup parameters. It will run the full openoffice program when you login.
[02:25] <Andy_> ath0      IEEE 802.11g  ESSID:"boonie"
[02:25] <Andy_>           Mode:Managed  Frequency:2.432 GHz  Access Point: 00:0F:66:9F:0B:C5
[02:25] <Andy_>           Bit Rate:1 Mb/s   Tx-Power:18 dBm   Sensitivity=0/3
[02:25] <Andy_>           Retry:off   RTS thr:off   Fragment thr:off
[02:25] <Andy_>           Power Management:off
[02:25] <TheAsp> willam: what doesnt work?
[02:25] <Andy_>           Link Quality=0/94  Signal level=-95 dBm  Noise level=-95 dBm
[02:25] <Flannel> Penguin: because you're not the only user
[02:25] <Andy_>           Rx invalid nwid:0  Rx invalid crypt:0  Rx invalid frag:0
[02:25] <Rug> !paste
[02:25] <Andy_>           Tx excessive retries:0  Invalid misc:0   Missed beacon:0
[02:25] <bullrage> Anybody know why I can't get sound in Flash Player 7?
[02:25] <ubotu> Please do not flood the channel http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ for pasting long texts it does not disrupt the channel. [webboard for Ubuntu: http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=1269 : not an offical package] .
[02:25] <krazykit> Andy_: pastebin!
[02:25] <krazykit> don't flood
[02:26] <Andy_> sorry
[02:26] <SillyRabbit> Rug:  i am an ordained minister now....
[02:26] <santiagokq> soundray: what would be the use then?  :)
[02:26] <mcrandello> penguin, you need to do admin things as root, using the "sudo" comand
[02:26] <Flannel> Penguin: because your user only has limited abilities, it keeps it more secure.
[02:26] <Penguin> Then How do I get permissions?
[02:26] <william__> TheAsp: I followed the intructions for the Nvidia Restricted Binarys but I cannot change my res past 1024x768
[02:26] <Rug> SillyRabbit: So you know a lot about Converting people?  =)
[02:26] <pvangarde> hmm. what was the command to currently loaded modules? lsmod?
[02:26] <santiagokq> soundray: i remember there was some commandline parameter for quickloading it... i'll search
[02:26] <Andy_> just ant to get my wifi card working
[02:26] <rjian> how will i set up firestarter ive already install it wat the next step i will do?
[02:26] <SillyRabbit> Rug:  indeed
[02:26] <TheAsp> willam: cannot change it how?
[02:27] <SillyRabbit> Rug:  but, its all about the freedom of choosing your own path....never about convincing
[02:27] <william__> cannot the resolution in the menus
[02:27] <mcrandello> penguin instead of doing something like "mv /usr /poo" you have to use "sudo mv /usr /poo"
[02:27] <bootlick> sounds like the masons
[02:27] <TheAsp> willam: what menus
[02:27] <mcrandello> (don't do that btw
[02:27] <mcrandello> )
[02:27] <william__> the "change resolution" app
[02:27] <Rug> SillyRabbit: as you may know; some people need to be shown that there is another path
[02:27] <Penguin> sudo username?
[02:27] <bullrage> Anybody know why I can't get sound in Flash Player 7?
[02:27] <william__> in my preferences
[02:27] <Flannel> Penguin: no, sudo is a command
[02:27] <franky123> krazykit: so i did the command, didnt display anything. i added the p4_clockmod to /etc/modules at the end of it. do i need to restart anything now?
[02:27] <TheAsp> william__: *ahem* what change resolution app?   dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg?
[02:27] <mcrandello> no, sudo (command you'd normally type to do things)
[02:27] <earthen> Sorry my internet died,  could someone tell me what to type at the startup so I can install the server version only from the Ubuntu destop install cd
[02:27] <william__> no
[02:27] <Flannel> !tell Penguin about sudo
[02:28] <william__> in the GUI
[02:28] <SillyRabbit> Rug:  evidence is the best though
[02:28] <Penguin> I'm trying to extract a file
[02:28] <krazykit> franky123: no, it should work now.
[02:28] <rjian> !firestarter
[02:28] <ubotu> Ubuntu has, like every other linux distribution, firewalling built into the kernel. A simple frontend to this firewall is firestarter, which can be installed via synaptic.
[02:28] <william__> system, preferences then change resolution
[02:28] <krazykit> franky123: though you may need to restart powernowd.
[02:28] <TheAsp> willam: you mean in gnome"?  that will only let you select configured resolutions
[02:28] <rjian> ie can anyone teach me how to use firestarter?
[02:28] <franky123> krazykit: wow, cpufreq is there, thanks. ill restart powernow now
[02:28] <william__> oh I figured after doing the binarys it would change that
[02:28] <Andy_> no one has any suggestions for my issue i'm having with my wireless card (orinoco gold a/b/g)?
[02:28] <mcrandello> seriously though is there a way to restart usb if it pukes and dies?
[02:28] <Trae> awwww, the ubuntuforums wished me a Happy Birthday.  How sweet
[02:29] <SillyRabbit> Trae:  HB2U
[02:29] <Trae> SillyRabbit, heh, danke
[02:29] <Marineboy> !nfts
[02:29] <ubotu> My cat's name is Mittens! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Marineboy
[02:29] <Marineboy> !ntfs
[02:29] <ubotu> to automatically mount your NTFS partition: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions there is no write support for ntfs that is safe. <!winfstab>
[02:29] <keithg> Well schucks.
[02:29] <SillyRabbit> Trae:  ur welcome....
[02:29] <Rug> rjian: Did you know that in a default installation of Ubuntu, you don't need to install a firewall?
[02:29] <jbirdAngel> hello
[02:29] <wastrel> ubuntu
[02:30] <rjian> yup ive already install it.. how will i use it to share network connection?
[02:30] <keithg> Anyone think they can give me some hard drive advice?
[02:30] <pianoboy3333> What files does a linux system typically read when booting?
[02:30] <Penguin> I don't get the sudo thing
[02:30] <franky123> krazykit: uhhh, powernowd doesnt say cpufreq doesnt exist, but it says [fail]  now, and i catted the cpufreq dir and theres definitely stuff there... theres lots of numbers that look like clock speeds and "powersave ondemand conservative performance" stuff ...
[02:30] <Flannel> Penguin: did you read the page ubotu sent you?
[02:30] <nickrud> keithg, sure, get the best your money can afford :0
[02:30] <SillyRabbit> Remember, the greatest gift is not found in a store nor under a tree, but in the hearts of true friends. -- Cindy Lew
[02:30] <Penguin> yes
[02:31] <mcrandello> penguin, sudo makes you temporarily have admin priviledges
[02:31] <pvangarde> Penguin: its silly, just chroot and set up your root password
[02:31] <Flannel> pvangarde: no.
[02:31] <TheAsp> pianoboy3333: thousands...  what are you looking for?
[02:31] <Penguin> I just installed ubuntu
[02:31] <Rug> SillyRabbit: quoteing the truth whereever one finds it?
[02:31] <keithg> Nickrud:  Actually I'm just having trouble with one.  I'm not looking to buy one *yet*.
[02:31] <pvangarde> Flannel: and why not?
[02:31] <Flannel> pvangarde: there's no reason to setup a root password.
[02:31] <SillyRabbit> Rug:  i try
[02:31] <mcrandello> pvangarde it's a bad idea to do that if you don't understand what sudo does ;)
[02:31] <nickrud> keithg, ah. Well, in for a penny, in for a pound. What's the issue then
[02:31] <SillyRabbit> Rug:  cheers mate - until next time
[02:32] <Penguin> I'm trying to install the latest version of firefox
[02:32] <Rug> have a good on
[02:32] <Rug> one
[02:32] <krazykit> franky123: is that it?  it just says fail?  if there's a more verbose error... ooh, pastebin me the error from powernowd -v
[02:32] <soundray> Penguin: are you on dapper or breezy?
[02:32] <pianoboy3333> TheAsp: I installed fedora on an external USB drive, and it gets an interesting error that it can't mount some files and such. I followed a guide which helped me create an initrd which included the usb drivers, but I'm still getting the same errors from before :(
[02:32] <Penguin> ummm...
[02:32] <pvangarde> mcrandello: what does it do thats different than su, except making you write it every time you want to execute a command as root?
[02:32] <Penguin> I don't know
[02:32] <Flannel> Penguin: linux has a "root" user (which can do ANYTHING on the computer), and then normal users, who can only do certain things, and can't do some, like... editing system files.  this way you can't accidentally screw up things, and it makes it more secure from a cracking/etc standpoint as well.
[02:32] <soundray> Penguin: what's your current firefox version?
[02:32] <pianoboy3333> TheAsp: I feel as though it's looking for my partiton/drive in the wrong /dev though
[02:33] <Penguin> The default version of firefox that came with ubuntu
[02:33] <Penguin> 1.0.8
[02:33] <TheAsp> pianoboy3333: this isnt #fedora
[02:33] <Surfnmate> 5 more hours til Dapper
[02:33] <william__> thank you TheAsp
[02:33] <soundray> !ff1.5
[02:33] <ubotu> You can use firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[02:33] <william__> I figured it out
[02:33] <mcrandello> pvangarde, I'm just saying that if sudo is confusing then having a root shell is probably dangerous
[02:33] <pianoboy3333> TheAsp: I know, I never asked a question about fedora at first ;)
[02:33] <nickrud> pvangarde, you can use sudo -i for the same effect. The apps are sudo/gksudo aware, and it's the default security model for ubuntu. Simliar advice in similar situations. etc.
[02:33] <bryanl> is webmin included in dapper?
[02:33] <soundray> Penguin: read this page (ubotu) ^^
[02:33] <Flannel> pvangarde: read this page: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo
[02:33] <Penguin> I've looked at that. I'm trying to install firefox
[02:33] <franky123> krazykit: http://pastebin.com/764143
[02:33] <Flannel> soundray: he already read that.
[02:34] <mcrandello> I mean, I usually just go "gksudo xterm" from the applauncher
[02:34] <keithg> nickrud, Well, I have been working on fixing this for a while now.  It started one day when I tried to install dapper onto hda (I have my primary install on hdb) once it got to the formating stage, the installation froze at a certain percentage.  I eventually restarted the computer, and tried again, same problem.  Then I tried a breezy cd, again I get the same problem.  And then I try mke2fs -c -c /dev/hda and I get the same thing.
[02:34] <Flannel> !tell Penguin about ff1.5
[02:34] <Flannel> Penguin: read that, or, you can just upgrade to dapper (newest ubuntu version) which includes 1.5
[02:34] <soundray> Penguin: what's the problem then?
[02:34] <Penguin> I've looked at that page and the rootSudo thing
[02:34] <Penguin> How do I do that
[02:34] <krazykit> franky123: i don't see an error message.
[02:34] <andrewski> trying to install a partition in gparted, getting "At least one operation was applied to a busy device".  have already unmounted it, just to be sure.  any idea why?
[02:34] <Penguin> soundray: I'm trying to install firefox. I can't get the sudo thing to work
[02:35] <sn00p> Do I need to compile support in for my linksys router?
[02:35] <Flannel> Penguin: it'll ask for a password, enter your user password
[02:35] <krazykit> sn00p: no, the OS doesn't affect the router
[02:35] <franky123> krazykit: but when i /etc/init.d/powernowd restart it says stopping powernowd ok starting powernowd fail ... and nothing else
[02:35] <nickrud> keithg, then I'd guess there's something wrong with the hard drive. I assume doing all this on another hard drive worked
[02:35] <soundray> Penguin: what does it say when you run 'sudo ls /root/'
[02:35] <krazykit> franky123: are you doing `sudo /etc/init.d/powernowd restart`?
[02:35] <sn00p> krazykit: I hooked up my linksys router, to my cable modem and then plugged my ethernet cable in and I couldn't get internet my internet is dhcp
[02:36] <mcrandello> peguin, from a console or xterm type 'sudo apt-get install firefox' and after you type your password it will 'apt-get install firefox' as if you were the admin account
[02:36] <keithg> Yeah, in fact before I tried installing dapper, I had a breezy install on hda.
[02:36] <dust> hi. my gnome panel is using 100% of my cpu, and has been for a while. does anyone know why?
[02:36] <keithg> nickrud, Sorry for not specifying you're name at the beginning of that last one.
[02:36] <andrewski> sn00p: you'll probably need to connect to the router's interface to access the internet.
[02:36] <earthen> anyone know how to start the server install from the desktop install CD
[02:36] <andrewski> dust: maybe a plugin, but hard to say.
[02:36] <franky123> krazykit: oh my god, now i really feel stupid. thanks
[02:36] <Flannel> earthen: you can't, I don't think.
[02:36] <bobby> hi i need help with a terminal install
[02:36] <krazykit> franky123: haha, don't worry about it :-D
[02:36] <Mystic_> anyone use a shuttle pc and can comment on linux support?
[02:36] <Rug> bobby: ask your question
[02:37] <krazykit> franky123: i'm glad i went back to step one ;-)
[02:37] <andrewski> dust: deskbar-applet?
[02:37] <santiagokq> dust: kill it and restart it
[02:37] <nickrud> keithg, I saw it. Have you tried running cfdisk on hda and resetting the partitions? Not saying it's the fix, but it's what I'd do next
[02:37] <bobby> any one?
[02:37] <earthen> Flannel, mmm that strange considering it's is basicly the same with out any gui
[02:37] <sn00p> andrevski: what?
[02:37] <dust> andrewski: how would i check?
[02:37] <Rug> bobby: ask your question
[02:37] <keithg> nickrud, I sadly don't know much about fixing these sorts of things.  So I am learning this all as I go.  :)
[02:37] <andrewski> Rug: he just did. ;)
[02:37] <Flannel> earthen: you're talking about the liveCD installer, right?
[02:37] <Penguin> I did that. and it says it is already installed. it still is 1.0.8
[02:38] <nickrud> keithg, is there anything at all on hda you want to save?
[02:38] <andrewski> dust: if you have the plugin, you could check to see if it's responding.  if not that, likely something else.
[02:38] <Marineboy> !mp3
[02:38] <ubotu> I guess mp3 is a patented format; to enable mp3 capability see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[02:38] <sn00p> andrewski i said I connected my cable modem to my router
[02:38] <Rug> andrewski: All I saw from bobby was:   bobby> hi i need help with a terminal install
[02:38] <slackern> Mystic_: maybe http://www.linuxquestions.org/hcl/showcat.php?cat=all&stype=1&si=shuttle will help you.
[02:38] <soundray> Mystic_: Shuttles come with very different internals. I got one working with a ATI chipset for Athlon 64
[02:38] <Flannel> Penguin: right, Breezy only has 1.0.8, dapper has 1.5
[02:38] <keithg> nickrud, Nothing at all that's important.
[02:38] <slackern> Mystic_: if you can find your modell there that is.
[02:38] <Penguin> how do I get dapper?
[02:38] <andrewski> sn00p: yes, you need to use the web-based router interface to get an IP address from the modem.
[02:38] <Flannel> !tell Penguin about upgrade
[02:38] <earthen> Flannel, yeah I think so, it's the dapper x86 install cd
[02:38] <nickrud> keithg, run sudo cfdisk in a terminal, and re-partition the drive. Then, try the mk2fs command again
[02:38] <Flannel> earthen: the LiveCD one, right?
[02:38] <Mystic_> soundray: does everything work?
[02:39] <earthen> Flannel, and it bootin into a live cd right now
[02:39] <Flannel> Penguin: update manager should ask you about upgrading, actually.
[02:39] <nickrud> keithg, it'll kill a few minutes if nothing esle
[02:39] <bobby> ok i've been trying to install gtkpod and im in a terminal i did the cd and the ./configure and now when i sign into the root and try the command "make" it says command not reconized
[02:39] <Mystic_> soundray: can you get 3d accel?
[02:39] <[CC] Impsy|NH> can someone help me
[02:39] <soundray> Mystic_: pretty much. ATI X200 works except with Xgl
[02:39] <Flannel> earthen: right, I don't know if you can select a server install from that.  you definately can't choose the LAMP preinstall and stuff.  on the alternative (text-mode) installer, you can just type 'server' and install without ubuntu-desktop
[02:39] <earthen> Flannel, I trying to install the server to an old PII 300 to make a  web caching server and porn filter so the live cd is going freakin slow
[02:39] <[CC] Impsy|NH> can anyone help me with the alternate cd and live cd
[02:39] <nickrud> bobby, why not just sudo apt-get install gtkpod?
[02:39] <andrewski> bobby: why are you compiling gtkpod?
[02:40] <bobby> becuase its not there i tryed that
[02:40] <Flannel> earthen: right, you probably should download the server iso.  you could use alternate installer, but server is 300mb smaller, and has optomized kernels
[02:40] <andrewski> bobby: you'll need to add repositories.
[02:40] <earthen> Flannel, what is the LAMP preinstall
[02:40] <nickrud> bobby, yes it is, if you enable the universe repo, see below
[02:40] <nickrud> !universe
[02:40] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource.
[02:40] <andrewski> nickrud: sorry, i'm not being very helpful, eh?
[02:40] <mcrandello> for reals guys, let's say that my video card driver completely hosed the usb subsystem, and I'm stuck using a synaptics touchpad, is there any way to force the USB to restart and maybe work again without telinit=6'ing it?
[02:40] <dust> andrewski: what plugin should i check and how do i check a plugin? (and i'm not running the deskbar applet)
[02:41] <nickrud> andrewski, I've typed that answer so often, it's muscle memory now :)
[02:41] <earthen> Flannel, I C I guess I'm gonna have to down load that then
[02:41] <[CC] Impsy|NH> can someone help me with alternate cds and live cds
[02:41] <andrewski> [CC] Impsy|NH: what's your question?
[02:41] <andrewski> dust: just see if you can right-click.  perhaps one of them will not let you.
[02:41] <soundray> !alternate
[02:41] <ubotu> The Alternate CD is the classical Ubuntu text-installer, with no Live session available on it.
[02:41] <slackern> mcrandello: maybe removeing the module which handles usb and reloading it.
[02:41] <earthen> Flannel, I have a limit to how much I can down load I downloaded the desktop version last night I was hopinh i could use it to do both
[02:41] <santiagokq> what's the commandline parameter for quickstarting openoffice2 and keeping it resident?
[02:41] <Flannel> earthen: well, you can.
[02:42] <Flannel> earthen: but, the liveCD might be too much for that computer.
[02:42] <Flannel> earthen: since you can't install without going through the liveCD on that computer
[02:42] <nickrud> santiagokq, if you get the answer to that, please pm it to me. I've been looking myself
[02:42] <gnomefreak> santiagokq: there is a package that does that
[02:42] <gnomefreak> theres one for gnoem and one for kde
[02:42] <jbirdAngel> i used adept to get xchat-gnome and xchat systray, how do i enable the systray?
[02:42] <santiagokq> gnomefreak: well that package wants to uninstall ubuntu-desktop and gnome-openoffice
[02:43] <bobby> i dont have the settings button
[02:43] <earthen> Flannel, O yeah I know it is! but I have a server set up on the same system fro someone else and it runs and does it's job exptreemly well
[02:43] <[CC] Impsy|NH> andrewski: well i used the xubuntu alternate cd to install it, and now when i want to install some packages it asks for the xubuntu live cd, if i burn this and se it can i get those packages?u
[02:43] <santiagokq> gnomefreak: and it worked for me in breezy, without that package
[02:43] <wastrel> santiagokq:  -invisible   according to ooffice -h
[02:43] <slackern> santiagokq: openoffice &  perhaps?
[02:43] <gnomefreak> santiagokq: ubuntu-desktop is fine adn gnome-office is different than OOo
[02:43] <mcrandello> slackern, okay it shouldn't take over a minute to remove a module should it?
[02:43] <nickrud> wastrel, ah, !
[02:43] <Flannel> earthen: right, you can install via that, sure.  you'll just have to remove ubuntu-desktop after you install it.
[02:43] <andrewski> [CC] Impsy|NH: you'll need to change repositories.  h/o a sec
[02:43] <fairy> Got another (hopefully quick) question.  I wanted to have two xservers running, and managed to accomplish that by editing gdm.conf.  However, it takes over one of the terminals that's already got stuff output to it, I don't know what's outputting to that terminal, or how I'd redirect it?
[02:43] <santiagokq> wastrel: thanks let me check it out
[02:43] <damnation> guys, i have a WPC54G wifi pcmcia card in my laptop, how do i get it working in linux? also what software do i use to utilise it ?
[02:43] <[CC] Impsy|NH> andrewski: what you mean :P
[02:43] <damnation> apparantly the wpc54gv3 (what i have) works on linux's list @ https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards
[02:43] <slackern> mcrandello: I guess it should be instant more or less.
[02:43] <andrewski> [CC] Impsy|NH: i'm explaining; hold on
[02:44] <earthen> Flannel,  yeah that's too bad
[02:44] <neodrummer> ppl,how do i acssec the ubunts firewall
[02:44] <soundray> fairy: pass the -vt option to the X server.
[02:44] <[CC] Impsy|NH> andrewski: k, btw the comp i installed has *no* internet
[02:44] <mcrandello> heh I guess usbhid was a good guess as to which one was hosed :(
[02:44] <jeroenvrp> anyone knows if prelinking openoffice and firefox does really help!?!?!
[02:44] <fairy> soundray, well, what goes on term 8 normally?  it looks like output from startup.
[02:44] <bullrage> checking for X.. configure: error: Can't find X includes. Please check your installation and add the correct paths.  -- what package do I need to install? Google results recommend kde-base but I don't see why
[02:44] <earthen> Flannel, I'm just gonna have to bite the bullet and down load the server edition, guess I'm gonna have to limit my porn downloadin for this month LOL
[02:44] <fairy> I'm just wondering where that's configured to output there, and if I can move it to term 9 instead.
[02:44] <bobby> hello?
[02:44] <neodrummer> how do i change the firewall ports?
[02:44] <Oni-Dracula> there are 885 people in this channel
[02:45] <Oni-Dracula> that's just insane!
[02:45] <soundray> fairy: normally in /etc/inittab -- let me check
[02:45] <[CC] Impsy|NH> i know
[02:45] <gnomefreak> thats getting low
[02:45] <ElectusUnum> and they all have questions ;)
[02:45] <disinterested_pe> why wont macromedia flash install?
[02:45] <fairy> Oni-Dracula, lots of ubuntu users :)
[02:45] <Rug> Oni-Dracula: yeah Dapper sure got popular
[02:45] <fairy> soundray, much thanks :)
[02:45] <gnomefreak> disinterested_pe: 64bit or ppc?
[02:45] <jadaz87> Oni-Dracula: there were 1100 on the day dapperreleases
[02:45] <jadaz87> Oni-Dracula: released
[02:45] <disinterested_pe> ppc
[02:45] <Oni-Dracula> I'm glad, fairy and rug
[02:45] <earthen> Flannel, thanks for the info
[02:45] <ElectusUnum> I hate to throw out another question but, anyone here use an EPIA board?
[02:45] <Rug> Oni-Dracula: do me a favor: don'
[02:45] <gnomefreak> disinterested_pe: flash wont run on ppc nor 64bit you need alternative packages
[02:46] <Rug> ack
[02:46] <neodrummer> i have installed amule, but the port open in my router is unavaillebel
[02:46] <fairy> Unfortunately, my dapper upgrade failed :( so I'm waiting on CDs to get here.
[02:46] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell disinterested_pe -about flash
[02:46] <Rug> Don't say those two name together again ok?
[02:46] <nickrud> wastrel, no, not that one either
[02:46] <gnomefreak> disinterested_pe: on that link ubotu pmed you with you will find more info on it
[02:46] <Oni-Dracula> lol
[02:46] <Oni-Dracula> FAIRY RUG!
[02:46] <wastrel> ah well
[02:46] <Rug> hehe
[02:46] <Penguin> is "Ubuntu 6.06 LTS dapper?
[02:46] <disinterested_pe> thanks
[02:46] <Oni-Dracula> O_o
[02:46] <Tedd> Oni-Dracula, I don't think faries have rugs if you get my drift
[02:46] <gnomefreak> Penguin: yes same thing
[02:46] <adamant1988> Wow Tedd
[02:47] <Oni-Dracula> well some fairy's have rugs, but some shave ;)
[02:47] <Tedd> I'm sorry. I haven't slept in over 30 hours.
[02:47] <Rug> hehe
[02:47] <adamant1988> 0_0....
[02:47] <AngryElf> from what I hear Live CDs can 'save' your settings by using a flash drive/stick/whatever, am i correct on this?
[02:47] <fairy> soundray, looking at inittab, it doesn't appear anything is referring to tty8 :/
[02:47] <adamant1988> Ok, I'm going to go back to just marveling at my Ubuntu install
[02:47] <santiagokq> wastrel: when i load it with invisible, it seems to stay resident, but i cannot open any document
[02:47] <soundray> fairy: it's configured in /etc/syslog.conf
[02:47] <Tedd> Oni-Dracula, you're disgusting, I was talking about Fairy's choice in linoleum!
[02:47] <dust> andrewski: they all seem to be working fine.
[02:47] <fairy> soundray, okies, thanks much, let me take a looksie :)
[02:47] <gnomefreak> AngryElf: i would think yes
[02:47] <nickrud> wastrel, it was working, and I lost it
[02:47] <Desh_> What should I use for videos in firefox?
[02:47] <gnomefreak> you can save anything to flash drives
[02:47] <ElectusUnum> Did the ubuntu server install fail for anyone else?
[02:48] <Oni-Dracula> :)
[02:48] <nickrud> frustrating x2
[02:48] <gnomefreak> ElectusUnum: nope only one that did work for me
[02:48] <AngryElf> gnomefreak, is this hard to setup? is there a how-to, and/or, what should i be googling for to get info on it?
[02:48] <gnomefreak> up until today
[02:48] <ElectusUnum> I hear the EPIA people are f***ked
[02:48] <ElectusUnum> On the forums they mention the "alternate install", is that just the desktop version?
[02:48] <Oni-Dracula> I love it when ubuntu breaks, it gives me something to do :)
[02:48] <ElectusUnum> ha
[02:48] <soundray> Desh_: cat video >/dev/null and do something useful with your time, like chatting on IRC ;)
[02:48] <Oni-Dracula> such as when someone decides that upgrading 5.10 to 6.06 is a good idea
[02:48] <Oni-Dracula> WHICH IT'S NOT
[02:48] <gnomefreak> AngryElf: all you would havet o do is save the home dir to flash  i dont htink you can save the full iso to flash you would still need disk to boot live cd
[02:48] <Flannel> ElectusUnum: no.  that's the "alternate" install cd
[02:49] <Rug> ElectusUnum: I gave up on using my Epia a long time ago.  No more VIA stuff for me
[02:49] <ElectusUnum> Rug: Yeah, so I see
[02:49] <adamant1988> I wouldn't advise upgrading... just backup your data and do a clean install...
[02:49] <nickrud> Oni-Dracula, I'm recommending fresh installs
[02:49] <gnomefreak> Oni-Dracula: its a fine idea
[02:49] <krazykit> there's nothing wrong with upgrading.
[02:49] <wastrel> santiagokq:  i dunno ... haven't tried it myself  heh yes i'm seeing that...
[02:49] <Oni-Dracula> yep
[02:49] <gnomefreak> Oni-Dracula: yes nickrud is right always best to go with freshinstalls
[02:49] <adamant1988> My ubuntu fresh install works famously.
[02:49] <Oni-Dracula> theres lots wrong with upgrading...like broken sound, undetected wifi card, all kinds of screwy things
[02:49] <adamant1988> In fact, it's out preformed every other distro on my laptop
[02:49] <fairy>  Soundray, the lin e I Find referencing tty8 appears to be commented out :|  -rummages-
[02:49] <ElectusUnum> Well I guess I'll try the alt install, but for the record STAY AWAY FROM EPIA
[02:49] <adamant1988> it actually enabled  my power button!
[02:50] <fairy> My error when upgrading was 'invalid package information' :P
[02:50] <slackern> I tried upgrading from hoary to breezy and to dapper and that worked well for me, but the installs where just to test :)
[02:50] <Oni-Dracula> my only problem at the moment is fixing my broadcom wifi card
[02:50] <Surfnmate> is anyone running Dapper with XGL
[02:50] <Desh_> What should I use for videos in firefox?
[02:50] <Rug> Upgrading is fine if all of your stuff works 100% BEFORE the upgrade
[02:50] <Surfnmate> Oni-Dracula, whats wrong with it
[02:50] <Desh_> What should I use for videos in firefox now that mplayer is not in the repository for Dapper?
[02:50] <Flannel> Surfnmate: #ubuntu-xgl has people that do ;)
[02:50] <gnomefreak> Surfnmate: xgl is in #ubuntu-xgl
[02:50] <adamant1988> Ubuntu would be THE best desktop linux distro available for consumer use if it came with batteries enabled
[02:50] <Rug> Surfnmate: Yes, for 5 mintus
[02:50] <Surfnmate> Flannel, o right
[02:50] <Surfnmate> thx
[02:51] <adamant1988> IMO
[02:51] <Surfnmate> dont wanna really talk about the subject, just wanted to see how many of you are using it
[02:51] <gnomefreak> Desh_: it is
[02:51] <Oni-Dracula> Surfnmate, it's detected as eth1 just fine, but it won't connect to anything
[02:51] <gnomefreak> Desh_: its in multiverse just as it was in breezy
[02:51] <nickrud> Desh_, mplayer is, enable multiverse
[02:51] <Oni-Dracula> I'm sure there is a forum post somewhere that I can use to fix it
[02:51] <Desh_> I enabled everything...
[02:51] <fairy> Hmmm hmm hmm...
[02:51] <nickrud> Desh_, but totem-xine with totem-xine-firefox-plugin works pretty well
[02:51] <jbirdAngel> does adept completley and cleanly remove/uninstall things ?
[02:51] <Surfnmate> Oni-Dracula, mmm
[02:51] <Oni-Dracula> heck, there is a forum post for EVERY problem
[02:51] <soundray> fairy: comment it in then, and point it to tty9
[02:51] <gnomefreak> Desh_: make sure you enable multiverse not backports
[02:51] <Surfnmate> Oni-Dracula, static and DHCP?
[02:52] <P-NuT> Hey all, is this the best place to ask about zaptel drivers?
[02:52] <wastrel> ah -invisible requires you use the API to interact.  maybe -quickstart is what you're looking for
[02:52] <n0deal> Ok, probably a silly question, but I installed the amd64 version of dapper and everytime I do an apt-get it tells me it can't find the package
[02:52] <P-NuT> in relation to ubuntu?
[02:52] <Desh_> Can someone copy paste the universe repository?
[02:52] <Desh_> I enabled every single one.
[02:52] <n0deal> and I have the other repos enabled as far as I can tell
[02:52] <wastrel> no, -quickstart is deprecated and not available in 2.0
[02:52] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell Desh_ -about repos
[02:52] <fairy> I'll give that a quick try.
[02:52] <P-NuT> Desh_: check packages.ubuntu.com for details
[02:52] <gnomefreak> deskgo to the dapper link in your pm
[02:52] <Oni-Dracula> Surfnmate,  DHCP is enabled, SSID of my network added in, hex wep key in
[02:53] <nickrud> Desh_, see http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 for good dapper sources
[02:53] <Oni-Dracula> Surfnmate, I may try using ndiswrapper instead of the kernel driver (bcm43xx)
[02:53] <Surfnmate> Oni-Dracula, i used ndis. works good here
[02:54] <Munchkinguy> What's the root password on the Ubuntu Live CD?
[02:54] <Surfnmate> 43xx wifi card using bcmwl5 driver
[02:54] <skybox> can anyone paste me their xorg.conf that supports 1280x1024? I just lost my entire xorg.conf+I don't know my monitors refresh rate
[02:54] <soundray> Munchkinguy: there isn't one
[02:54] <Oni-Dracula> Surfnmate, what driver did you use? bcmwl5.ini/sys ?
[02:54] <soundray> !tell Munchkinguy about root
[02:54] <Oni-Dracula> ah i see
[02:54] <Oni-Dracula> ill give it a try
[02:55] <Surfnmate> Oni-Dracula, yep, couldnt see the device in the network. but with modprobe it added it. and now I connect to my router. No WEP, DHCP. Netgear router.
[02:55] <Surfnmate> !root
[02:55] <ubotu> Direct login as the root user is disabled in Ubuntu. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.
[02:55] <Surfnmate> ubotu thats not a root
[02:55] <Oni-Dracula> i see
[02:55] <ubotu> Did you get hit by a windmill? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Surfnmate
[02:55] <Surfnmate> hehe
[02:55] <Rug> ElectusUnum: I feel your pain
[02:55] <monkeywk> hello all - was wondering if anyone can tell me where apt-get stores it's commands that it runs after package install?   I attempted to install vmware-player and fuddled it up huge now when i install any package it attempts to run the post-install scripts for vmware and fails my new package install
[02:56] <soundray> monkeywk: /var/lib/dpkg/info
[02:56] <ElectusUnum> Rug: The alt install is apparently working for people, but I can't wait to switch to generic hardware
[02:56] <Munchkinguy> soundray: Thank you
[02:56] <ElectusUnum> Alright, well I'm out -- thanks for the help everyone
[02:57] <jbirdAngel> does adept completely and cleanly remove and uninstall things?
[02:57] <soundray> Munchkinguy: any time
[02:57] <jbirdAngel> if answered before i didnt see  it
[02:57] <skybox> how do I input the right values in xorg.conf to get 1280x1024, I don't know my monitors refresh rate, and reconfigure-xorg-server doesn't change the resolution for me to 1280x1024
[02:57] <Oni-Dracula> jbirdAngel, please contact your original equipment manufacturer as "adept" is not a supported ubuntu somethingoranother ;)
[02:58] <tritium> skybox: you can edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[02:58] <Oni-Dracula> cheap tech support for the win!
[02:58] <Surfnmate> skybox, how do u know it supports 12801204
[02:58] <selaiah> Can anyone recommend a font pack? (with Arial, Time news, verdana and those) ?
[02:58] <nickrud> monkeywk, /var/lib/dpkg/info
[02:58] <blankey> does ubuntu work on an intel centrino laptop? :P
[02:58] <skybox> tritium yes I know, because 10 minutes ago I run it in 1280x1024, been doing that for months, but I kinda screwed my xorg.conf so I had to load ubuntu default settings
[02:59] <jbirdAngel> Oni-Dracula: lol why do you say that and lol it popped up in my right hand corner in a little message and i thought it was my computer talkingto me as i jus topened the add/remove adept thing
[02:59] <Surfnmate> skybox, there are xorg.conf backups have you looked there
[02:59] <soundray> jbirdAngel: I'm not an adept adept :) but normally there are two levels of package removal: "remove" and "purge". For full removal, you have to purge.
[02:59] <nickrud> monkeywk, look for <packagename>.postinst
[02:59] <skybox> surfnmate where
[02:59] <jbirdAngel> soundray: okay thank you
[02:59] <Oni-Dracula> im sorry jbirdAngel
[02:59] <jbirdAngel> its okay
[03:00] <Surfnmate> skybox, same folder i believe let me check
[03:00] <nickrud> selaiah, sudo apt-get install msttcorefonts
[03:00] <Surfnmate> Skwid_, yeap i can send you one of my files
[03:00] <jbirdAngel> can i edit my notify settings in xchat-gnome or do i have to do that in xchat regular?
[03:00] <Surfnmate> skybox, sorry that was for you
[03:00] <[CC] Impsy|NH> andrewski: hellO?
[03:00] <Oni-Dracula> xchat-gnome is.....weak...
[03:01] <Surfnmate> skybox, im on 1280x800 not sure if that helps but you could try
[03:01] <nickrud> xchat-gnome is ... unusable.
[03:01] <pppoe_dude> any ideas why evolution is giving me this when trying to send encrypted mail (PGP): Failed to execute gpg: Broken pipe ?
[03:01] <soundray> xchat-gnome is just fine
[03:01] <selaiah> thanks a bunch nickrud
[03:01] <pppoe_dude> it didnt ask me for recepient's key
[03:01] <Surfnmate> pppoe_dude, need a pgp key?
[03:01] <nickrud> selaiah, yw
[03:02] <Oni-Dracula> nothing wrong with standard xchat anyway...I even find it superior to mIRC
[03:02] <Surfnmate> pppoe_dude, disable pgp encryption
[03:02] <nickrud> soundray, I needed to say that once.
[03:02] <i> i speak binary
[03:02] <blankey> I keep getting debootstrap warnings when I'm trying to install ubuntu. The integrity tool in the setup menu says the CD is valid though. What could be causing this?
[03:02] <jbirdAngel> some things i like about it that i cant change in xchat like the channel window, plus xchat regular doesnt give any notice of new messages in a room like gnome odes or the other ones that chang ethe tabs color, or did i miss it?
[03:02] <pppoe_dude> Surfnmate, i need to encrypt
[03:02] <Rhine> If a folder is unreadable how can I force to erase it I have tried chmod to give me permission but it wont let me delete it
[03:02] <Surfnmate> pppoe_dude, oops
[03:02] <i> i speak binary
[03:02] <Marineboy> this is confusing.
[03:02] <pppoe_dude> i have both keys, but evolution only asks for my pass to sign then gives erre
[03:02] <nickrud> i, and?
[03:02] <Surfnmate> oos
[03:02] <Surfnmate> sorry
[03:02] <i> a speak binary
[03:02] <Oni-Dracula> that's dirty soundray
[03:02] <i> 00110001
[03:03] <soundray> Oni-Dracula: it wasn't meant to be
[03:03] <Surfnmate> pppoe_dude, not sure why really
[03:03] <MaKkY> im getting an error when trying to install a *.deb file
[03:03] <Oni-Dracula> uh huh
[03:03] <jbirdAngel> does xchat let me know when someone writes in a room on its channel tab?
[03:03] <Rhine> If a folder is unreadable how can I force to erase it I have tried chmod to give me permission but it wont let me delete it
[03:03] <scabootssca_> i dont
[03:03] <bullrage> pah, 15 minutes to make gnash and it gives me an error.. back to google
[03:04] <Oni-Dracula> jbirdAngel, it turns the channel tab name red when theres new text in the room/tab
[03:04] <MaKkY> Error: Dependency is not satisfiable: xlibs
[03:04] <blankey> Does anyone have an idea? :(
[03:04] <soundray> bullrage: that's alpha software for you... Please write a wiki page when you've succeeded :)
[03:04] <jbirdAngel> well does xchat use tabs like chatzilla or a list window like xchat gnome, cuz it looked like xchat gnomes to me, and it didnt seem to change color
[03:04] <jbirdAngel> for that
[03:05] <wycats> I upgraded my hardware, and X won't start correctly... How can I get ubuntu to re-recognize my device...
[03:05] <jbirdAngel> does xchat have the little system pop up window that displays what is said in a message with my name in it if im not in xchat?
[03:05] <soundray> wycats: try sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[03:05] <krazykit> MaKkY: to fix this, download and install http://www.artfiles.org/ubuntu.com/archive/pool/main/x/xorg/xlibs_6.8.2-77_all.deb   ... though doing it like this is kinda frowned upon.
[03:05] <Rhine> Anyone know how to erase an unreadble folder?
[03:05] <wycats> Can I do it from the install CD?
[03:05] <Oni-Dracula> jbirdAngel, use standard xchat, not xchat-gnome and you will have the features you want
[03:05] <bullrage> soundray, aye.. looks like a bug in the package more than anything, i don't think I can sort it
[03:05] <selaiah> apt-get install mstcorefonts doesnt work fo rme Nickrud. Synaptic doesnt find that package either
[03:05] <MaKkY> krazykit: why is it frowned upon?
[03:05] <selaiah> any clue?
[03:05] <krazykit> Rhine: sudo rm
[03:05] <nickrud> selaiah, do you have the multiverse repo enabled?
[03:06] <blankey> ;/
[03:06] <lee_> Hi, I've got a wierd issue. This has happened twice, and just happened now. I'll go afk for 5 minutes or so (the screen saver goes on a 1 minutes idle) and I'll come back and it will be at the Ubuntu Login screen. Totally Logged off! I have to log back in. I'ts very strange.... any thoughts?
[03:06] <soundray> bullrage: if you can't sort it, report it
[03:06] <krazykit> MaKkY: well, you're installing libraries from an untrusted source.
[03:06] <selaiah> I'm quite sure, I'll double check, nickrud
[03:06] <jbirdAngel> well should xchat have tabs like gnome or a list window like xchat gnome, if it has tabs then what i have called xchat isnt xchat
[03:06] <bullrage> soundray, it already has been
[03:06] <_mason> Where can i find xlibs ? i need it to install Cegeta
[03:06] <Surfnmate> !cegeta
[03:06] <ubotu> I give up. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Surfnmate
[03:06] <cha0tic> Greetings, i just installed ubuntu on my laptop - latest release - working great so far, aside from some minor problems with my wireless and sound, as well as my dvdplayer -- not to worried about wireless atm, more concerned about why my sound card is not working -- its showing up under device manager, but  when i click on volume control it shows: no volume control gstreamer plugins and/or devices found
[03:06] <krazykit> _mason:  http://www.artfiles.org/ubuntu.com/archive/pool/main/x/xorg/xlibs_6.8.2-77_all.deb
[03:06] <Oni-Dracula> jbirdAngel, give me a second and ill give you a screenshot :p
[03:06] <Rhine> Er its a directory would that make a difference?
[03:06] <selaiah> ah no i only have universe, How do i add Multiverse nickrud? =D
[03:06] <jbirdAngel> okay thank you
[03:07] <Surfnmate> cha0tic, where from
[03:07] <bullrage> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15226 can this be fixed by me?
[03:07] <selaiah> ah got it now
[03:07] <cha0tic> surfnmate ? where is what from ?
[03:07] <_mason> Thankyou krazykit
[03:07] <krazykit> _mason and MaKkY, i got that link from the opera9 beta guide, in case you wanted to know.  it was part of their install requirements with that same error
[03:07] <Surfnmate> cha0tic, where ya from
[03:07] <nickrud> selaiah, wherever universe appears, add multiverse to the end of the line
[03:07] <cha0tic> tx
[03:07] <Rhine> krazykit, it says it is a directory and it wont allow me to remove it
[03:07] <Surfnmate> cha0tic, ah dallas?
[03:07] <cha0tic> close to it
[03:08] <krazykit> Rhine: sudo rm -f
[03:08] <Surfnmate> cha0tic, remembered that name from a while back
[03:08] <lee_> Hi, I've got a wierd issue. This has happened twice, and just happened now. I'll go afk for 5 minutes or so (the screen saver goes on a 1 minutes idle) and I'll come back and it will be at the Ubuntu Login screen. Totally Logged off! I have to log back in. I'ts very strange.... any thoughts?                            anybody? lol
[03:08] <wycats> Is there a way to get the ubuntu installer to install OVER an existing installation?
[03:08] <soundray> bullrage: I'll hazard a wild guess... Have you got libpng12-dev installed?
[03:08] <blankey> I keep getting debootstrap warnings when I'm trying to install ubuntu. The integrity tool in the setup menu says the CD is valid though. What could be causing this? - Kind of seems weird to me :(
[03:08] <MaKkY> krazykit: thanks for the info...
[03:08] <krazykit> Rhine: but be careful.  sudo rm-ing stuff can break your system badly.
[03:09] <vdepizzol> why ubuntu can't come with mp3 codec?
[03:09] <soundray> wycats: yes, just reformat the partition
[03:09] <krazykit> vdepizzol: liscensing issues
[03:09] <wycats> nah
[03:09] <Rhine> sudo rm -f /media/hda1/Druganaut
[03:09] <Rhine>  and it outputs rm: cannot remove `/media/hda1/Druganaut': Is a directory
[03:09] <wycats> I don't want to reformat
[03:09] <soundray> vdepizzol: because the creators don't allow it
[03:09] <Rhine> Yeah its on a seperate drive
[03:09] <Rhine> i can restore it all
[03:09] <Rug> Rhine: ntfs partition?
[03:09] <wycats> I want to install while maintaining my existing partition
[03:09] <Rhine> No its ext2
[03:09] <krazykit> Rhine: well, BE DAMN CAREFUL WITH THIS... sudo rm -fr
[03:09] <bullrage> soundray, I do now.  In Windows in firefox/IE it makes the browser go forward and backward. can I do that in ubuntu
[03:11] <Flannel> Oni-Dracula: language
[03:11] <Kovecses> but ubuntu has mp3 easy enough
[03:11] <Surfnmate> Oni-Dracula, watch the ethikZ
[03:11] <soundray> Oni-Dracula: not a NASA astronaut
[03:11] <purserj> Oni-Dracula, not former NASA
[03:12] <nuambenzina> ?
[03:12] <Kovecses> HAHAHAH hes not NASA
[03:12] <Rhine> Thanks for the help krazykit ill just reformat it
[03:12] <soundray> Oni-Dracula: KGB cosmonaut is closer ;)
[03:12] <purserj> Paid 20 million to russians to get to ISS
[03:12] <Oni-Dracula> wow, corrected by 4 different people :) I MUST BE WRONG
[03:12] <nickrud> lee_, last thing I read about it was http://www.canonical.com/news/UbuntuFoundation
[03:12] <nuambenzina> ISS rocks!
[03:12] <vdepizzol> Kovecses: it's easy to install mp3 codec but isn't easier
[03:13] <lee_> Oh Mark Shuttleworth
[03:13] <lee_> yeah he's pretty well off
[03:13] <soundray> lee_: lwn linked to an interview with Mark Shuttleworth recently
[03:13] <Marineboy> im having the same prob with mp3
[03:13] <Surfnmate> yeah the Russian International Secret Service rulez
[03:13] <jbirdAngel> are the channel tabs supposed to be up top like this? http://keule.dac-clan.org/pics/xchat.png
[03:13] <usermount> kennie
[03:13] <usermount> hi
[03:13] <Kovecses> i can never stick to a distro
[03:13] <usermount> i new en ubuntu...i need help ..with fplayer
[03:13] <HellDragon> if i update "nvidia-glx" i will have to reconfigure all the driver and everything ?
[03:14] <MaKkY> anyone here know how to use cedega? I downloaded it from torrentspy...
[03:14] <Kovecses> fedora, debian, Ubuntu, gentoo  are the ones i always switch between
[03:14] <MaKkY> i have already installed it
[03:14] <Oni-Dracula> ugh i need to restart...brb
[03:14] <soundray> HellDragon: no
[03:14] <pyroride> hello everyone. I just installed ubuntu for the first time ever!
[03:14] <meta-ridley> linux on the ibook.. anyone find their laptop actually runs hotter under linux?
[03:14] <HellDragon> you're sure ? i dont want to do all the thing i did to make them work soundray
[03:14] <soundray> pyroride: congratulations
[03:14] <nuambenzina> ahh not Russian International Secret Service, ISS- Internet Security Sistems www.iss.net
[03:14] <Kovecses> pyroride, WOOOOOOOOOOO HOOOOOOOOOO
[03:14] <pyroride> :)
[03:14] <painkiler> hey guys
[03:14] <soundray> HellDragon: I've done it many times
[03:14] <pyroride> my wireless works and all that jazz
[03:14] <painkiler> how would you explain this error? http://flickr.com/photos/evilmac/113630855/
[03:14] <purserj> anyone tried installing dapper on one of the older proliants?
[03:15] <painkiler> And how do i get out of it?
[03:15] <pyroride> the only problem i have is my screen is too wide.. there's about a half inch of my screen stretched out of view -->
[03:15] <Surfnmate> nuambenzina, i was being historically sarcastic, glad it worked =D
[03:15] <painkiler> I tryed dpkg-reconfigure xserver-org
[03:15] <vdepizzol> example: In Brazil, there aren't software patents. Why Ubuntu can't come, here in Brazil, with MP3 codec?
[03:15] <nuambenzina> aa
[03:15] <painkiler> but it says i don't have xserver-org
[03:15] <bullrage> this just doesn't make sense. If I go onto myspace in windows I can listen to music on people's profiles. However, I've installed macromedias flash version and now gnash and neither will play the sound
[03:15] <Surfnmate> pyroride, what GPU u got
[03:15] <pyroride> i have an ATI Radeon 9800 Pro
[03:15] <Kovecses> the codec is beyond easy to install
[03:16] <nickrud> painkiler, nearly always that's fixed with sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[03:16] <pyroride> i just ran easyUbuntu and it installed drivers for ATI
[03:16] <painkiler> x org
[03:16] <painkiler> sorry
[03:16] <painkiler> i forgot
[03:16] <Surfnmate> pyroride,  with wide screen, what size
[03:16] <cha0tic> just installed ubuntu, and im having a hard time getting my snd card to work - it shows up under device manager but i cant play any sound -- when i try to open volume control it either says i dont have the right GStreeamer plugins or there is no device installed --- how do i fix this ?
[03:16] <soundray> vdepizzol: this is not just an issue of software patents
[03:16] <lee_> Makky: check your PM
[03:16] <lee_> please
[03:16] <Kovecses> cha0tic, what card?
[03:16] <pyroride> 17" lcd, non wide-screen.. it's in the 1280x1024 res
[03:16] <cha0tic> its a built in card that came with my laptop
[03:17] <init_6> Hello all having a serious freezing up problem with Dell XPS and 6.06.  Once I get to the desktop I've got just a couple minutes until machine locks up.
[03:17] <cha0tic> not sure on the chipset, lemme check lspci
[03:17] <nickrud> vdepizzol, least common denominator (plus the spirit of the debian free software guidelines)
[03:17] <soundray> vdepizzol: but you can probably redistribute Ubuntu with added MP3 functionality in Brazil if you want to.
[03:17] <disinterested_pe> so is there another browser toolbar (search engine) for mozilla browser?
[03:17] <Surfnmate> pyroride, oh opposite mmm
[03:17] <MaKkY> lee_: i dont have any Pm's
[03:17] <Kovecses> hehe frozen trout
[03:17] <cha0tic> 0000:00:14.5 Multimedia audio controller: ATI Technologies Inc IXP SB400 AC'97 A udio Controller (rev 02)
[03:17] <bullrage> disinterested_pe, why do you need one? You can use the default search box in the firefox GUI to search different engines
[03:18] <cha0tic> ac'97
[03:18] <Surfnmate> pyroride, no luck changing screen size?
[03:18] <pyroride> is there any way to adjust the position of the screen image in ubuntu?
[03:18] <lee_> Can you join #MaKky then please
[03:18] <nuambenzina> disinterested_pe, search on firefox/mozilla site not on distro`s site.
[03:18] <lee_> lol
[03:18] <Kovecses> cha0tic, hmm should work by default
[03:18] <cha0tic> well i hear the system beeps when you first start ubuntu - but after that, theres nothing
[03:18] <disinterested_pe> i was looking to istall yahoo search in moziaal's browser
[03:18] <Red-Sox> Is it possible to run Ubuntu Linux inside of Windows?
[03:18] <rpedro> MaKkY: what's your problem now? :)
[03:18] <daniel_bergamini> alright, how do I set a blank password (no removing the password from /etc/shadow does not work)
[03:18] <disinterested_pe> mozilla
[03:18] <soundray> pyroride: try xvidtune
[03:18] <adamant1988> Red-Sox with VM software
[03:18] <Red-Sox> adamant1988> Is it free?
[03:18] <init_6> Red-Sox VMWare
[03:19] <MaKkY> rpedro: nothing... lol just here to chat...
[03:19] <Kovecses> Red-Sox, first off .... go sox ... second vmware
[03:19] <adamant1988> Red-Sox: you can get it free.
[03:19] <nickrud> pyroride, it's easiest to use the monitor controls, but I think it can be done with xvidtune & making mode lines. Overkill In my opinion
[03:19] <daniel_bergamini> passwd -d does not work either
[03:19] <rpedro> MaKkY: ah ok lol
[03:19] <Surfnmate> soundray, i think he wants to adjust his whole wide view
[03:19] <tonybaloney> hi, i'm having trouble with installing Ubuntu
[03:19] <Red-Sox> Kovecses> w00t w00t!
[03:19] <bullrage> Can anybody offer any solutions to why sounds in flash objects don't play correctly when they do on other operating systems
[03:19] <pyroride> soundray, nickrud: thanks ill try
[03:19] <vdepizzol> soundray: isn't insteresting have two .iso files? One without codecs, java, etc; and other with all, to be used in countries that don't have software patents?
[03:19] <tonybaloney> it locks up on boot after installing from the CD
[03:19] <Red-Sox> adamant1988> Like PearPC
[03:19] <krazykit> bullrage: because macromedia doesn't care about linux.
[03:19] <cha0tic> any ideas Kovecses ?
[03:19] <bullrage> krazykit, i've tried gnash too
[03:19] <Kovecses> cha0tic, google
[03:20] <soundray> vdepizzol: you are confused about what software patents mean.
[03:20] <disinterested_pe> so does that red hat package in synaptic allow u to install red hat software?
[03:20] <krazykit> bullrage: eh?  gnash?
[03:20] <soundray> vdepizzol: the problem that you are talking about is being addressed by EasyUbuntu anyway
[03:20] <bullrage> krazykit, http://savannah.gnu.org/projects/gnash
[03:20] <nickrud> vdepizzol, the dev's only have so much time to support things, for one.
[03:20] <Surfnmate> cha0tic, the ubuntu forum and the wiki have tons of answers i looked there to get my stuff up
[03:20] <vdepizzol> right... ok
[03:21] <Flannel> vdepizzol: it's easier to just not, and have them be installable after.  Much fewer potential lawsuits.
[03:21] <krazykit> bullrage: well, simply, flash just isn't well supported in linux.  macromedia/adobe promises better support when they get around to releasing flash 9 though.
[03:21] <nickrud> vdepizzol, then, they'd have to figure out what not to put on the unfree disk to make space for the unfree stuff.
[03:21] <vdepizzol> yes...
[03:21] <bullrage> krazykit, is there an ETA on that?
[03:22] <vdepizzol> thanks
[03:22] <krazykit> bullrage: a few weeks after windows/mac is released, but i don't know when that is.  i think they have a dev blog somewhere though
[03:22] <Kovecses> 5 hours fro dapper?
[03:22] <bullrage> krazykit, thanks.
[03:22] <Flannel> bullrage: 8 was just released at the end of last year
[03:22] <soundray> nickrud, Flannel: well argued... and after all, Ubuntu is primarily about freedom, isn't it
[03:22] <Kovecses> and linux is still on 7
[03:23] <eternale1> i don't get why i still can't get flash to work
[03:23] <eternale1> in firefox
[03:23] <Kovecses> eternale1, amd64?
[03:23] <eternale1> no
[03:23] <nickrud> soundray, +1
[03:23] <eternale1> just a regular old crappy box
[03:23] <avis> did you follow the symlink steps for firefox and dapper ?   they weren't the first listed
[03:23] <disinterested_pe>    eternal mine works in mozilla but not in firefox
[03:24] <eternale1> hmm
[03:24] <Marineboy> will libarts1-mpeglib
[03:24] <Marineboy> mpeglib plugin for aRts, supporting mp3 and mpeg audio/video work for playing mp3?
[03:24] <avis> for sun-java
[03:24] <soundray> eternale1: can you see the plugin listed when you enter "about:plugins" in the address field
[03:24] <valehru> Hey guys, can someone explain to me why sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start leads to a blue screen with errors while startx brings me straight into gnome?
[03:24] <yurka> guys
[03:24] <yurka> nvm
[03:24] <disinterested_pe> eternale1 do u have mozilla browser installed?
[03:24] <eternale1> yes i can
[03:24] <pyroride> does anyone know how to make the firefox icon be the proper one
[03:24] <eternale1> soundray:
[03:24] <soundray> nickrud: I appreciate your work. We have to be interoperable while we're waiting for the world to become enlightened ;)
[03:24] <pyroride> my firefox icon is a globe
[03:25] <charle97> marineboy: what app are you using to play mp3s?
[03:25] <eternale1>     File name: libflashplayer.so
[03:25] <eternale1>     Shockwave Flash 7.0 r63
[03:25] <yurka> is there a virtual cdrom emulator for linux?
[03:25] <Kovecses> dude right click select properties?
[03:25] <soundray> eternale1: are there any other plugins competing for that data type?
[03:25] <nickrud> soundray, so off topic, but even the debian developers keep non-free repos around :)
[03:25] <Marineboy> charle97, im on Ubuntu with Kubuntu desktop.
[03:25] <Rug> yurka: You don't need one
[03:25] <valehru> let me explain again: Hey guys, can someone explain to me why sudo /etc/init.d/gdm leads to a blue screen with errors while startx brings me straight into gnome
[03:25] <Abnix> \o:  what the crap happened to my firefox?  middle-click to paste a link no longer works...
[03:25] <qkslvrwolf> is there any reason that the torrents for 6.06 are downloading 5.10?
[03:26] <Rug> yurka: create an ISO of the CD, and mount it anywhere you want
[03:26] <charle97> marineboy: amarok?
[03:26] <Marineboy> charlie97 yeah.
[03:26] <krazykit> yurka: mount -o loop -t auto /path/to/file.iso /mnt/point
[03:26] <Flannel> qkslvrwolf: they shouldn't be.
[03:26] <charle97> marineboy: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=189060
[03:26] <Rug> krazykit: thanks
[03:26] <[CC] Impsy|NH> can sonmeone help me wtih the alternate cd and liveccd
[03:26] <Marineboy> thanks charlie97
[03:26] <eternale1> soundray: doesn't look to be any others that are of swf type
[03:26] <[CC] Impsy|NH> please>
[03:27] <qkslvrwolf> I know.  Hence the curiousity.  I downloaded what said it was the 6.06 torrent, and the file it left is 5.10
[03:27] <vemon388> hey ya all!
[03:27] <qkslvrwolf> I just did it again to make sure
[03:27] <soundray> Abnix: just configure it. And please help keep this channel G-rated.
[03:27] <qkslvrwolf> same thing
[03:27] <qkslvrwolf> actually...I think I know what may have happened
[03:27] <qkslvrwolf> hold on
[03:27] <vemon388> question, How do I install gnome in xubuntu?
[03:27] <Kovecses> sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[03:27] <krazykit> vemon388: install ubuntu-desktop
[03:27] <disinterested_pe> im sure glad i downloaded rush exit stage left movie while i had windows
[03:27] <[CC] Impsy|NH> can someone help me with the Alternate Cds and Live Ds
[03:27] <Kovecses> ask the question [CC] Impsy|NH
[03:27] <soundray> eternale1: sorry, I'm out of suggestions now.
[03:27] <[CC] Impsy|NH> *cds
[03:28] <avis> what program based will xubuntu accept ?
[03:28] <avis> base
[03:28] <avis> fluxbox
[03:28] <krazykit> avis: what do you mean?
[03:28] <eternale1> soundray: :( thanks for the help anyways
[03:28] <avis> in fluxbox and xubuntu what program base can i use ? kde or gnome ?
[03:28] <nuambenzina> [CC] Impsy|NH, alternate cd =?!?!?!?!
[03:28] <eternale1> ill find it :)
[03:28] <[CC] Impsy|NH> Well i installed Xubuntu on my internetless computer and i need some packages and it asks for the xubuntu live cd (i think its the xubuntu) to get the other packages. Can i burn the cd with live on it and e the packages.
[03:28] <avis> because i'm seriously addicted to gnome-terminal
[03:29] <krazykit> avis: both.  any dependencies are taken care of.  gtk is preferred though
[03:29] <avis> ok
[03:29] <krazykit> avis: try out Terminal, xfce's terminal program
[03:29] <avis> ok
[03:29] <KuLover> Anyone having problems in here updating amaroK?
[03:29] <Rug> avis: kde/gnome/whatever it doesn't matter  you can install anything
[03:29] <Ron_o> you can try out any app under xubuntu.
[03:29] <daniel_bergamini> please help me setup a blank password so I can run administrative tools without a password with my tablet pc?
[03:29] <KuLover> Anyone having problems in here updating amaroK?
[03:29] <Flannel> daniel_bergamini: erm. what?
[03:29] <[CC] Impsy|NH> Well i installed Xubuntu on my internetless computer and i need some packages and it asks for the xubuntu live cd (i think its the xubuntu) to get the other packages. Can i burn the cd with live on it and get the packages.
[03:29] <KuLover> oops sry for double post
[03:30] <krazykit> KuLover: to what version?
[03:30] <Rug> KuLover: did you upgrade from Breezy?
[03:30] <KuLover> 1.4 fast forward
[03:30] <Abnix> soundray: I'm curious, where is this configuration at?  I'm not seeing it in the Edt/Preferences dialog box
[03:30] <avis> [CC] Impsy|NH, it wants the cd you used to install
[03:30] <KuLover> Im on dapper 64but
[03:30] <KuLover> 64 bit
[03:30] <daniel_bergamini> Flannel I can't figure out how to configure pam to accept blank passwords, deleting them in /etc/shadow or passwd -d doesn't let it authenticate
[03:30] <Rug> KuLover: upgrade it from what then?
[03:30] <Flannel> daniel_bergamini: why would you WANT that?
[03:30] <kurt314> It's official. Ubuntu hates me. I just can't get the ATI drivers installed without my Ubuntu system not coming back up afterwords.
[03:31] <[CC] Impsy|NH> avis: i used the alternate cd to install tho
[03:31] <Rug> kurt314: no Ubuntu loves you.  Ati hates you
[03:31] <krazykit> kurt314: no, ati drivers are just horrid.
[03:31] <KuLover> Oh, the version before it i suppose, I hadnt checked
[03:31] <daniel_bergamini> Flannel because my tablet doesn't have a keyboard
[03:31] <Rug> KuLover: it matters.
[03:31] <Surfnmate> exactly, caress ATI
[03:31] <avis> [CC] Impsy|NH, to install xubuntu ?
[03:31] <[CC] Impsy|NH> avis: yes
[03:31] <soundray> Abnix: go to about:config, filter for middle, set middlemouse.contentLoadURL to true
[03:31] <daniel_bergamini> and unlocking the screen and running administrative apps is impossible unless I dock
[03:31] <Rug> KuLover: nuke amarok and reinstall
[03:31] <kurt314> I can't deal with the artifacts in the drivers that Ubuntu has otherwise
[03:31] <KuLover> I tried, Rug, no success
[03:31] <avis> [CC] Impsy|NH, have you tried it ?
[03:32] <[CC] Impsy|NH> avis: well i think so.
[03:32] <Weirdbro> Is there a .tiff plugin for firefox?
[03:32] <Weirdbro> I couldn't find one.
[03:32] <Rug> KuLover: what error are you getting?
[03:32] <avis> well i think things and i am often wrong.
[03:32] <[CC] Impsy|NH> avis: doesnt the live cd come with more?
[03:32] <nickrud> doesn't firefox do tiff natively?
[03:32] <daniel_bergamini> Flannel I'm not saying it's safe or smart, just convenient
[03:32] <avis> it doesn't matter :)
[03:32] <avis> it wants what it wasnt
[03:32] <Weirdbro> Not on ubuntu
[03:32] <avis> wants
[03:32] <kurt314> So, now I guess I will have to install Ubuntu for the 11th time
[03:32] <kurt314> tiring
[03:33] <KuLover> Jusr install(BREAK), Rug
[03:33] <deleted> any ruby users out there?  getting gem working on ubuntu is driving me nuts.
[03:33] <Rug> KuLover: you will have to be more specific
[03:33] <renren> darin manulat
[03:34] <KuLover> Rug, where should I look for more info for you?
[03:34] <soundray> daniel_bergamini: would pasting the password with the middle mouse button be an option for you?
[03:34] <Rug> KuLover: launch amarok from a terminal
[03:34] <DarkMageZ> under windows, when i middle clicked, it would give me this nice circle thing, and all i had to do to scroll around was move the mouse. how to i get this under ubuntu firefox :)
[03:34] <nickrud> Weirdbro, so I see
[03:34] <KuLover> Its dead, rug, uninstalled
[03:34] <asdx> hi
[03:35] <krazykit> DarkMageZ: i know the answer.  gimme a sec
[03:35] <Rug> KuLover: can you install it?
[03:35] <asdx> i'm trying to erase a cdrw on windows using nero and i get 'error in erasing' all the time, do you knwo a good cdrw burner?
[03:35] <Rug> KuLover: Did you upgrade from Breezy?
[03:35] <valehru> ok so can anyone explain why when the OS boots the xserver fails and gives errors, however when I login on the console and type startx it automatically boots into gnome?
[03:35] <Weirdbro> Nickrud: It seems I'd need to use mozplugger with ImageMagick according to 1 website, but I was hoping there was a better wat
[03:35] <KuLover> No, under the requeted calumn, it says install(Break)
[03:35] <KuLover> Rug
[03:35] <daniel_bergamini> soundray my tablet does not have a middle mouse buttom
[03:35] <Rug> asdx: for Linux/Ubuntu?    K3b
[03:35] <krazykit> DarkMageZ: install tabmix plus.  it has an option for it.
[03:35] <daniel_bergamini> button
[03:36] <tonybaloney> hey i'm getting a lockup when i first boot the machine (like right after GRUB loads the kernel), it then reboots and starts again, locking up and rebooting
[03:36] <tonybaloney> any ideas?
[03:36] <escobar5> hello, i'm having problems with my ipod, it is not recognized, it is a 3rd Gen Ipod, Windows Formated, and the dmesg output is here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15228
[03:36] <soundray> daniel_bergamini: does it have a left and right mouse button?
[03:36] <daniel_bergamini> soundray or mouse really of any kind, it has a pen, and you can click a soft button for a single left click, so I can't even chord
[03:36] <[CC] Impsy|NH> so does anyone know if i when i install xubuntu with the alternate cd i can put in the xubuntu live cd and get packages from it?
[03:36] <Rug> KuLover: open a terminal window and type:    sudo apt-get install amarok amarok-xine
[03:36] <asdx> Rug: for windows, i'm trying to burn the disc for burn ubuntu on it
[03:36] <soundray> daniel_bergamini: oh
[03:36] <DarkMageZ> krazykit, not available in the repos?
[03:36] <soundray> daniel_bergamini: how do you paste?
[03:36] <sn00p> How do I do basic computer networking in linux?
[03:36] <renren> darin loves u
[03:36] <Rug> asdx: this cahnnel is for ubuntu Linux
[03:36] <krazykit> DarkMageZ: it's an extension :-P
[03:36] <nickrud> Weirdbro, I used to use mozplugger a lot, for video & the like. Things got smarter, so I stopped. I guess it's time to look at it again.
[03:36] <renren> darin loves u
[03:36] <Rug> channel
[03:37] <asdx> pff
[03:37] <[CC] Impsy|NH> so does anyone know if i when i install xubuntu with the alternate cd i can put in the xubuntu live cd and get packages from it?
[03:37] <DarkMageZ> krazykit, :P yeah, some extentions are available in the repos tho
[03:37] <krazykit> DarkMageZ: this one isn't :-D
[03:37] <daniel_bergamini> soundray I don't I just started using it, was hoping to have it to browse the web or something... on screen keyboard
[03:37] <Weirdbro> nickrud: I'll probably only use it for things like tiff without proper viewers
[03:37] <Rug> asdx: I stopped using Windows 2 years ago
[03:37] <asdx> ok, whatever
[03:37] <KuLover> Rug, deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/amarok-14 dapper main
[03:37] <KuLover> Rug, Whoops, wrong paste
[03:37] <Rug> =)
[03:37] <kurt314> I am using Windows right now because Ubuntu won't play nice with the ATI drivers
[03:38] <KuLover> Rug,
[03:38] <KuLover> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[03:38] <KuLover>   amarok: Depends: libexscalibar1 but it is not going to be installed
[03:38] <KuLover>           Depends: libifp4 but it is not installable
[03:38] <KuLover>           Depends: libvisual0.2 (>= 0.2.0) but it is not installable
[03:38] <Rug> !paste
[03:38] <[CC] Impsy|NH> so does anyone know if i when i install xubuntu with the alternate cd i can put in the xubuntu live cd and get packages from it?
[03:38] <ubotu> Please do not flood the channel http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ for pasting long texts it does not disrupt the channel. [webboard for Ubuntu: http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=1269 : not an offical package] .
[03:38] <asdx> I need another burner software for windows, is there some free burner that also support widnows?
[03:38] <Flannel> [CC] Impsy|NH: right, all xubuntu ISOs can be used as repositories
[03:38] <dou213> hey i've installed xfce and kde and now whenever i turn off and boot the pc it doesn't come the same image like before, for gde... how can i restore it?
[03:38] <Rug> KuLover: ok good.  what happens when you type:  sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[03:38] <Mikamura_Kaoru>  <kurt314> I am using Windows right now because Ubuntu won't play nice with the ATI drivers >> Are there any solution to cope with ATi VGA Card?
[03:38] <Rug> asdx: Linux
[03:39] <[CC] Impsy|NH> Flannel, umm so when i installed with the alternate cd it came with less stuff i needed, correct?
[03:39] <asdx> FUCK
[03:39] <KuLover> Rug, 0/0/0
[03:39] <krazykit> asdx: language.  and use the nero trial
[03:39] <nickrud> Weirdbro, I'm not going to be able to spend time on that tonight, if you do you might want to note how it worked on the wiki.
[03:39] <soundray> daniel_bergamini: can you copy and paste with the on-screen keyboard?
[03:39] <Flannel> [CC] Impsy|NH: no, alternate CD is everything.
[03:39] <Weirdbro> nickrud: Ok, thats probably a good idea
[03:39] <Rug> KuLover: what version is your kernel?
[03:39] <dou213> how can i restore the gde boot image?
[03:39] <KuLover> kernalinfo
[03:39] <[CC] Impsy|NH> Flannel, when trying to get some packages why does it ask for the disk?
[03:40] <daniel_bergamini> soundray onscreen keyboard, hmmm, I'm not sure. but that won't help me with the screen saver unlock after a resume. also the GOK does not work in 606
[03:40] <KuLover> Rug, how do I find that (sorry for bugging you so much)
[03:40] <DarkMageZ> krazykit, do u know where that feature is in the plugin, i can't seem to find it
[03:40] <Rug> KuLover: in the terminal type:   uname -r
[03:40] <pyroride> has anyone experienced any issues with default fonts?
[03:40] <Flannel> [CC] Impsy|NH: because you're using the disk as the repository.  There are more packages on the disk than just what's initially installed.
[03:40] <pyroride> sometimes my default font looks terrible
[03:40] <Rug> and paste it here
[03:40] <pyroride> and other times it looks really nice and aliased
[03:40] <pyroride> even sometimes within the same sentence
[03:40] <KuLover> 2.6.15-23-amd64-generic , Rug
[03:40] <[CC] Impsy|NH> Flannel, so i can use the alternate cd and get more stuff of it?
[03:41] <Rug> ok good
[03:41] <krazykit> DarkMageZ: mouse > mouse clicking > middle click
[03:41] <Flannel> [CC] Impsy|NH: or the installCD, yeah.  both work.
[03:41] <Flannel> [CC] Impsy|NH: they're the initial "active" repositories, if you don't have internets
[03:41] <[CC] Impsy|NH> Flannel, is there a place where i can get a huge things of packages and stuff because the computer has no net
[03:41] <Rug> KuLover: personally I would swap that for k7 instead of AMD Generic, but that is a different issue
[03:42] <escobar5> please, i need help with my ipod: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15228
[03:42] <KuLover> Rug, way to inexperianced for that at the moment ><
[03:42] <Flannel> [CC] Impsy|NH: you can download the DVDs, they have even more packages.  and, there are plans to bundle up the repositories like debians, but nothing as of yet.  You can just download the packages, and burn them, then sneakernet them as well.
[03:42] <Rug> KuLover: ok, it's not a big deal
[03:42] <[CC] Impsy|NH> where are the packages?
[03:43] <KuLover> Rug, is there a temporary fix?
[03:43] <[CC] Impsy|NH> woops
[03:43] <Rug> KuLover: I can't think of one sorry
[03:43] <[CC] Impsy|NH> Flannel, where are these packages or DVDs
[03:43] <Flannel> [CC] Impsy|NH: repositories ;)
[03:43] <Flannel> [CC] Impsy|NH: oh, DVD images?
[03:43] <[CC] Impsy|NH> Flannel, sure.
[03:43] <KuLover> ANyone else haveing amaroK install problems?
[03:43] <Flannel> [CC] Impsy|NH: I'm not sure.  someone here should be able to tell you
[03:43] <Xenophoebic> anybody install ubuntu on a Chaintech VNF4 Ultra?  old and new ubuntu both wont install... ;-(  freezes up while attemting
[03:43] <[CC] Impsy|NH> Flannel, because i cant get the "make" command to work or anything on it.
[03:44] <soundray> daniel_bergamini: have you looked for an option to unset screen locking during resume?
[03:44] <Flannel> [CC] Impsy|NH: you need build-essential
[03:44] <Flannel> [CC] Impsy|NH: that should be on the CD
[03:44] <[CC] Impsy|NH> Flannel, how do i get it from the cd.
[03:44] <Rug> KuLover: what happens if you:  sudo apt-get install libexscalibar1 libifp4 libvisual0.2
[03:44] <Flannel> [CC] Impsy|NH: the CD is in your repository list, right?
[03:44] <[CC] Impsy|NH> Flannel, how do i get to my uh repository lsit.
[03:44] <[CC] Impsy|NH> Flannel, *list
[03:44] <KuLover> Rug
[03:45] <lee_> Hey I have a issue with the theme manager, everytime I attempted to change a theme, "gnome theme manager" crashes
[03:45] <KuLover> Package libifp4 is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[03:45] <KuLover> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[03:45] <KuLover> is only available from another source
[03:45] <KuLover> E: Package libifp4 has no installation candidate
[03:45] <Flannel> [CC] Impsy|NH: heh, you in, what? synaptic?  what's xubuntus package manager?
[03:45] <daniel_bergamini> soundray screen still locks during hybernate I believe
[03:45] <[CC] Impsy|NH> Flannel, well it has synaptic
[03:45] <daniel_bergamini> is enabling blank passwords this difficult?
[03:45] <Flannel> [CC] Impsy|NH: sure, lets use synaptic.
[03:45] <[CC] Impsy|NH> Flannel, k
[03:45] <escobar5> hello, anybody?
[03:45] <soundray> daniel_bergamini: let's say the question doesn't come up that often...
[03:45] <Rug> ok do that again but remove the:  libifp4
[03:45] <Flannel> [CC] Impsy|NH: one of the menus has a "repositories" item, select that.
[03:46] <nickrud> KuLover, first, please don't paste :) and it's in the universe repo, which you need to enable. See !components for why, and !repos for how, below
[03:46] <nickrud> !components
[03:46] <ubotu> The rationale behind the different components of the ubuntu repositories (main, restricted, universe, multiverse) is described at http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components
[03:46] <nickrud> !repos
[03:46] <Flannel> [CC] Impsy|NH: then, you're going to make sure that the CD repository is checked, and nothing else is.
[03:46] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource.
[03:46] <[CC] Impsy|NH> Flannel, lol wish i could do that right now but im not naer it
[03:46] <XOSGuest614> DCC SEND "testing" 0 0 0
[03:46] <[CC] Impsy|NH> Flannel, can you just tell me the steps
[03:46] <Flannel> [CC] Impsy|NH: oh, ok, so we're doing this via ssh?
[03:46] <KuLover> Rug, enableing reops, I know how to do ><
[03:46] <nickrud> !ops
[03:46] <ubotu> Help! lilo, hedgemage, lamont, Keybuk, jdub, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob, Hobbsee or gnomefreak!
[03:46] <[CC] Impsy|NH> Flannel, ssh? im just at my grandparents house :p
[03:46] <Flannel> nickrud: too late.  he's klined already
[03:46] <nalioth> nickrud: he got what was coming to him
[03:46] <Madpilot> fast kline :)
[03:46] <nickrud> Flannel, ah, I missed ugbutu
[03:46] <Flannel> [CC] Impsy|NH: right, but, what do you mean by "not near it"?
[03:47] <nalioth> Madpilot: we had warning
[03:47] <[CC] Impsy|NH> Flannel, yeah not near it
[03:47] <soundray> daniel_bergamini: when you edited /etc/shadow, did you also remove the 'x' in the password field in /etc/passwd ?
[03:47] <[CC] Impsy|NH> Flannel, i was gonna come here and burn a bunch of stuff.
[03:47] <nickrud> nalioth, permanently, we could hope
[03:47] <Flannel> [CC] Impsy|NH: oh, well, it's on the CD.  you need to enable the CD repository, it SHOULD already be enabled, then insert the CD, and you can use it.
[03:47] <Flannel> [CC] Impsy|NH: if, like you were saying, it was asking you to insert the CD, it's enabled.
[03:48] <[CC] Impsy|NH> Flannel, k
[03:48] <[CC] Impsy|NH> Flannel, well lol my ATI drivers and my sound isnt working as well..
[03:48] <Flannel> [CC] Impsy|NH: just insert the CD, and you can use synaptic/whatever, albeit with a limited list of packages.
[03:48] <Rug> KuLover: ok do that again but remove the:  libifp4
[03:48] <Feral_Kid> Is there a wiki guide to upgrade from breezy to dapper?
[03:48] <kholerabbi> Hey, normally firefox would use google i'm feeling lucky search if you just typed in a string like "ebay" in the locationbar, but I have enabled privoxy, and now a privoxy page comes up saying ebay can't be found.. is there any way to still use both google lucky search and privoxy?
[03:48] <escobar5> i'm having problems with my ipod, here's the output of dmesg: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15228, can anyone help me?
[03:48] <Madpilot> Feral_Kid, yes
[03:48] <Madpilot> ubotu, tell Feral_Kid about upgrade
[03:48] <KuLover> Rug, it found them, should I install?
[03:48] <Rug> yes
[03:49] <KuLover> Rug, Installed
[03:49] <Rug> WooHoo
[03:49] <[CC] Impsy|NH> Flannel, whats the different between the desktops?
[03:49] <KuLover> Rug, Try for amarok now?
[03:49] <Rug> KuLover: sudo apt-get install amarok amarok-xine
[03:49] <soundray> daniel_bergamini: here's an ugly hack: you could create a loop that's run as root on boot, that touches /var/run/sudo/username every couple of minutes
[03:49] <[CC] Impsy|NH> Flannel, i mean gnome and stuff
[03:49] <Flannel> [CC] Impsy|NH: you mean like, kubuntu vs ubuntu vs xubuntu?
[03:49] <[CC] Impsy|NH> Flannel, i heard you could have those also on xubuntu
[03:49] <lee_> Hey I have a issue with the theme manager, everytime I attempted to change a theme, "gnome theme manager" crashes
[03:50] <Flannel> [CC] Impsy|NH: right, you can install other ones along side.  It's basically a "ubuntu base" and then whatever ku-u-xu you want above it, in any combination
[03:50] <KuLover> Rug = Life Saver
[03:50] <KuLover> <3
[03:50] <Rug> KuLover: you are welcome, just glad I could help
[03:50] <[CC] Impsy|NH> Flannel, so how big are those to add-on then
[03:50] <daniel_bergamini> soundray I will try to remove the x in passwd and I will look into the sudo loop
[03:51] <Rug> KuLover: I love Amarok, been using it for a very long time
[03:51] <soundray> daniel_bergamini: I guess it would work as a cron job even.
[03:51] <KuLover> Rug, I love it too. Thanks so much
[03:51] <adamant1988> Can anyone assist me in fixing the flash in my FF?
[03:51] <Healot> it's the same distro with 3 different desktop flavors
[03:51] <Feral_Kid> Madpilot> Thanks for the info...
[03:51] <Madpilot> Feral_Kid, np
[03:51] <KuLover> Rug, I get an error upon open
[03:51] <Rug> KuLover: try joining #amarok
[03:51] <adamant1988> I can SEE flash, but I can't hear anything.
[03:51] <Flannel> [CC] Impsy|NH: I have no idea.  You'd have to download the ISOs of each one, I suspect.  And you can use them to install the other OSs (a live/alternate CD for kubuntu and ubuntu, then install ubuntu-desktop with the ubuntu CD in, and kubuntu with kubuntu CD), just remember to reload your package list after each.
[03:51] <Rug> KuLover: what error?
[03:51] <KuLover> Rug, Im in that channel, They wouldnt help me
[03:51] <Rug> =) har
[03:52] <KuLover> Rug, Could not find plugins
[03:52] <nickrud> adamant1988, there are some possible fixes on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[03:52] <Rug> wtf
[03:52] <adamant1988> Yeah, it said it couldn't find the alsa-oss file when I did apt-get
[03:52] <KuLover> Rug, It also says to wait and restart nvm
[03:52] <adamant1988> What should I do to install it?
[03:52] <pyroride> i think my text isn't getting aliased properly
[03:52] <[CC] Impsy|NH> Flannel, is there a way i can just make it install all the packages left over from my cd?
[03:52] <pyroride> some parts of the screen look super blocky and some parts look blurry
[03:52] <pyroride> with regards to text
[03:52] <Flannel> [CC] Impsy|NH: heh, sure.  Although, I can't imagine why you'd want to.  Just mark everything as install, in synaptic.
[03:52] <KuLover> Rug, works like  a charm now, Thanks again!!
[03:53] <Rug> good, you scared me..
[03:53] <[CC] Impsy|NH> Flannel, are alot of them not needed?
[03:53] <Rug> Dammit, don't do that again!
[03:53] <daniel_bergamini> soundray 1. thanks for the help. 2. removing the x in passwd didn't change things. I'm pretty sure it's a PAM issue
[03:53] <daniel_bergamini> I just don't want to learn that much about pam
[03:53] <lee_> Hey I have a issue with the theme manager, everytime I attempted to change a theme, "gnome theme manager" crashes
[03:53] <ydnar> if i installed an executable with wine, how do i run the actual program?
[03:53] <adamant1988> How do I install the Alsa-oss file?
[03:53] <Flannel> [CC] Impsy|NH: yeah, and a lot of them are different programs that do the same thing.
[03:53] <Rug> ydnar: type:  wine "/path/to/file"
[03:53] <leenks> hi - whats the best imap server to install on ubuntu ?
[03:54] <arentie> hello
[03:54] <soundray> daniel_bergamini: hope you find a way.
[03:54] <krazykit> ydnar: stuff goes in ~/.wine/drive_c/...
[03:54] <[CC] Impsy|NH> Flannel, lol would it take up a ton of space
[03:54] <Flannel> [CC] Impsy|NH: make sure you bring the common things (codec, flash, video card drivers) with you.  they're not on the CD.
[03:54] <arentie> can anyone help with a Linkysys WMP54G?
[03:54] <ydnar> how come i can't "cd" into "Program Files"
[03:54] <Flannel> [CC] Impsy|NH: I really have no idea
[03:54] <[CC] Impsy|NH> Flannel, lol i cant get my video card driver to work i dont think..
[03:54] <soundray> ydnar: try 'cd Program\ Files'
[03:54] <[CC] Impsy|NH> Flannel, its ati
[03:54] <ydnar> thank you
[03:54] <cwillu_> [CC] Impsy|NH; it'll install a bunch of stuff that you don't need, start services you don't want, etc
[03:54] <TheAsp> ydnar: you can use quotes too
[03:55] <leenks> arentie:  http://www.alexandern.com/Linksys_WMP54G_on_Linux.html
[03:55] <leenks> arentie: there may be other solutions though
[03:55] <sn00p> Does anybody know what repository would mplayer plugin be on for firefox?
[03:55] <ydnar> that worked wonderfully soundray, thank you very much!
[03:55] <arentie> leenks, is this for the Dapper release?
[03:55] <ydnar> you too TheAsp
[03:55] <[CC] Impsy|NH> Flannel, will the drivers at the top help me out? https://support.ati.com/ics/support/default.asp?deptID=894&task=knowledge&folderID=27
[03:56] <Flannel> !tell [CC] Impsy|NH about ati
[03:56] <soundray> ydnar: do you understand the problem?
[03:56] <leenks> arentie: it is generic instructions for linux
[03:56] <KuLover> Rug, did you have problems playing mp3 upon fresh install?
[03:56] <daniel_bergamini> soundray I'll report back if I find anything useful
[03:56] <arentie> leenks, ok thanks...I'll will check it out
[03:57] <[CC] Impsy|NH> Flannel, i should see if it works first i guess or a fat chance it will work with my ATI?
[03:57] <Rug> KuLover: yes, you must install the w32codecs
[03:57] <soundray> daniel_bergamini: I can't see why the timestamp loop wouldn't work.
[03:57] <leenks> arentie: there is a free GPL driver, and a commercial one you have to pay for; I haven't used either though I'm afraid
[03:58] <leenks> you might be able to get it to work with ndiswrapper
[03:58] <KuLover> Rug, where can I locate those?
[03:58] <arentie> leenks, I tried with ndiswrapper without success...it did work under breezy!
[03:58] <lee_> Hi, I've got a wierd issue. This has happened twice, and just happened now. I'll go afk for 5 minutes or so (the screen saver goes on a 1 minutes idle) and I'll come back and it will be at the Ubuntu Login screen. Totally Logged off! I have to log back in. I'ts very strange.... any thoughts?
[03:58] <Rug> !restricted foramts
[03:58] <ubotu> Rug: NO SPEAKE ENLISH! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[03:58] <Rug> ack
[03:59] <Rug> !restricted formats
[03:59] <ubotu> it has been said that restricted formats is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats or '!codecs'
[03:59] <tahorg> lee_: what uptime says ?
[03:59] <Rug> KuLover: got that?
[03:59] <KuLover> Rug, no?
[04:00] <KuLover> Rug, the ! thinger?
[04:00] <lee_> tahorg: what do you mean by uptime?
[04:00] <intelikey> lee_ iirc in the screensaver setting there is an option to logout after __
[04:00] <Rug> !tell kulover about codecs
[04:00] <sn00p> How come it cant find the mozilla-mplayer
[04:00] <leenks> arentie: have you checked for the card in dmesg etc ?
[04:00] <sn00p> ?
[04:00] <tahorg> lee_: do you have an I_like_to_walk_on_keyboards cat ?
[04:00] <Rug> KuLover: got that?
[04:00] <KuLover> Yeah
[04:00] <KuLover> Thankd
[04:00] <Rug> KuLover: you owe me a beer
[04:00] <lee_> tahorg: haha no :P I just turned around a minute ago and it was logged off
[04:00] <daniel_bergamini> soundray so if one authenticates for sudo it won't do it again for a short period of time?
[04:01] <KuLover> Rug, and a half
[04:01] <tahorg> lee_: did it reboot ?
[04:01] <lee_> I spose it's possible though lol I don't think the cat was nearby.... unless she's turned into a super ninja cat :P
[04:01] <soundray> daniel_bergamini: that's right, I think the default is 300 seconds.
[04:01] <lee_> Tahorg: that's possible, idk why it would though
[04:01] <daniel_bergamini> what is the best ubuntu forum?
[04:01] <tahorg> lee_: the uptime command will tell you how long the system has been running
[04:01] <soundray> daniel_bergamini: you're in it.
[04:01] <daniel_bergamini> might just be best to ask around and let some people think it through
[04:02] <daniel_bergamini> web forum
[04:02] <arentie> leenks, no, how do I?
[04:02] <soundray> !forums
[04:02] <krazykit> daniel_bergamini: ubuntuforums.org
[04:02] <daniel_bergamini> ok that's what I figured, I'll check it out
[04:02] <lee_> 2 hours 44 minutes
[04:02] <bullrage> FatalError: Cannot bind to XML RPC port, is another hellanzb queue daemon already running? -- how do i stop this daemon?
[04:02] <jeff2> I'm trying to setup a 32-bit chroot, using "debootstrap --arch i386 /chroot/ http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ubuntu
[04:02] <jeff2> ". it fails immediately with "/usr/sbin/debootstrap: line 227: cd: http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu: No such file or directory". why is it trying to treat the URL as a directory, and how can I make it bootstrap correctly?
[04:02] <lee_> so it didn't reboot
[04:03] <lee_> tahorg: 2 hours-so it didn't reboot
[04:03] <tahorg> lee_: was it really logged out or is it just the screensaver asking for your pass ?
[04:03] <adamant1988> grrr
[04:04] <optiq> does anyone have the script for mounting windows partitions?
[04:04] <intelikey> lee_ screensaver settings.   lock screensaver  logout screensaver.... ?
[04:04] <lee_> tahorg: it was really logged out, I had to start up firefox, irc, gaim everything again
[04:04] <adamant1988> none of those solutions is getting flash working...
[04:04] <bullrage> anyone? i dunno how to stop the daemon and none of the docs for hellanzb provide an answer
[04:04] <[CC] Impsy|NH> Can anyone tell me some great Linux Games
[04:04] <Surfnmate> optiq, just in the /etc/fstab there is something to mount them
[04:04] <soundray> !vfat
[04:04] <ubotu> Download and run http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/diskmounter to make your windows or mac partitions mount automatically.  If you wish to set it up yourself by hand, read: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions
[04:04] <intelikey> [CC] Impsy|NH cil
[04:04] <lee_> intelikey: lock was not selected however, activate screensaver when session idle is checked
[04:04] <intelikey> [CC] Impsy|NH cli
[04:04] <[CC] Impsy|NH> cil?
[04:04] <tahorg> lee_: dunno then
[04:04] <[CC] Impsy|NH> cli?
[04:04] <Surfnmate> !NTFS
[04:04] <ubotu> to automatically mount your NTFS partition: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions there is no write support for ntfs that is safe. <!winfstab>
[04:04] <tahorg> lee_: sorry
[04:05] <optiq> surfnmate someone had a particular script i was looking for it isnt a problem to do it manually
[04:05] <Mikamura_Kaoru> Can anyone here can solve my problem? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=190374
[04:05] <optiq> thanks
[04:05] <lee_> tahorg: tis K thanks
[04:05] <bullrage> I've done it now, nevermind
[04:05] <arentie> leenks, no offense, but that article seems like a lot of messing around
[04:05] <[CC] Impsy|NH> whats cli
[04:05] <cha0tic> just installed the latest ubuntu -- having a problem getting my AC'97 ATI sound card working -- it shows up under device manager, but i keep getting this error when trying to access volume control: no volume control GStreamer plugins and/or devices found ---- i googled it and found one possible solution: gst-register-0.8` as root -- but i dont have any type of gst-register command --- anyone have or had this problem and have fou
[04:05] <cha0tic> nd a way to fix it ?
[04:05] <arentie> there's gotta be an easier way
[04:05] <intelikey> lee_ there are options that will cause it to logout on screensaver.
[04:05] <tahorg> [CC] Impsy|NH: command line interface
[04:05] <Surfnmate> optiq, i see, not sure there, maybe the forums :)
[04:05] <[CC] Impsy|NH> why are you telling me about that
[04:05] <tahorg> [CC] Impsy|NH: aka terminal
[04:05] <[CC] Impsy|NH> thats not a fun game :p
[04:05] <soundray> daniel_bergamini: you could ask intelikey about you're problem. He's good :)
[04:06] <KuLover> Rug, firfox wants, libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0.  You have no idea.
[04:06] <[CC] Impsy|NH> does anyone know a good mp3 player that supports ipods
[04:06] <soundray> s/you're/your/ (I hate it when that happens)
[04:06] <Surfnmate> yeah intelikey has all the answers :P jk
[04:06] <Rug> KuLover: no I don't sorry
[04:06] <[CC] Impsy|NH> i need one for xubuntu
[04:06] <lee_> intelikey: where are they? I don't see them in the screensaver preferences
[04:06] <nickrud> jeff2, there probably will be kernel issues, or udev issues, or something somewhere on that layer.
[04:06] <[CC] Impsy|NH> help does anyone know a good media player that has ipod support and mp3 support and stuff
[04:06] <intelikey> lee_  gconf_editor
[04:06] <lee_> Quick OT question, how do you browse to a folder in terminal if there is a space in the name?
[04:06] <lee_> intelikey: okay.
[04:07] <Flannel> lee_: escape the space  (\ ), tabcomplete does it for you
[04:07] <tahorg> lee_: cd thing\ bla
[04:07] <intelikey> lee_  name\ of\ the.dir
[04:07] <Flannel> lee_: and, that's hardly offtopic ;)
[04:07] <jeff2> nickrud, thanks, I'll stick with a breezy chroot then
[04:07] <lee_> okay thanks
[04:07] <intelikey> lee_ or quote it.
[04:07] <daniel_bergamini> sure, intelikey, how can I use a blank password or not have to authenticate for sudo apps?
[04:07] <intelikey> cd 'this dir'
[04:07] <[CC] Impsy|NH> wow anyone know a good mp3 player
[04:07] <tahorg> lee_: or, cd "the[tab] [tab]
[04:07] <Surfnmate> hola santiagokq
[04:07] <tahorg> lee_: and it will complete
[04:07] <keithg> nickrud, Well, that wasn't able to fix my problems.  It did the same thing, I should have probably added that it sounds like the drive is restarting when it freezes.
[04:07] <[CC] Impsy|NH> wow anyone know a good mp3 player
[04:07] <nickrud> jeff2, I am not an expert, so I'd ask that question again later
[04:07] <daniel_bergamini> I'm using a tablet, no keyboard, no easy way to authenticate
[04:07] <lee_> Alright that worked thanks tahorg
[04:07] <soundray> lee_ or cd name* if it's unique
[04:07] <santiagokq> Surfnmate: hola...?
[04:08] <soundray> !player
[04:08] <ubotu> soundray: Wish I knew. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[04:08] <soundray> !players
[04:08] <ubotu> I heard players is Audio/MP3 Players: amaroK, Audacious, Banshee, Beep-media-player, JuK, quodlibet, Rhythmbox, XMMS ; Video players: Totem, Xine, Mplayer, VLC
[04:08] <daniel_bergamini> also, the screensaver always needs to be unlocked after a hybernate
[04:08] <Surfnmate> santiagokq, welcome to ubuntu
[04:08] <arentie> does anyone here know how to activate a linksys wmp54g?
[04:08] <tritium> daniel_bergamini: that's a known isue
[04:09] <[CC] Impsy|NH> whats one for Xubuntu tho.
[04:09] <nickrud> keithg, when you say that you use the low level mkfs.ext3 tool, and it fails, that's a warning at my skill level about the disk itself. I may be wrong
[04:09] <XOSGuest615> DCC SEND "startkeylogger" 0 0 0
[04:09] <santiagokq> i upgraded from ubuntu breezy to dapper, and now openoffice's quickstart feature doesn't work anymore... i wasn't using any special applet, just the default option in tools - options - memory - quickstarter... any ideas?
[04:09] <VoX> whoa
[04:09] <intelikey> net split
[04:09] <nickrud> intelikey, no, an ass.
[04:09] <VoX> thats no net split
[04:09] <tritium> he was K-lined ;)
[04:10] <keithg> nickrud, So that would mean that I would need to replace it?
[04:10] <lee_> intelikey: gconf_editor doesn't launch anything :(
[04:10] <bluefoxicy> ubotu automatix
[04:10] <ubotu> hmm... automatix is dangerous! DO NOT use it, it has wrecked many systems. If you really insist on a script to do the work for you, consider EasyUbuntu (!easyubuntu, #easyubuntu).
[04:10] <[CC] Impsy|NH> will Banshee come as a repository on my Xubuntu Alt cd?
[04:10] <Madpilot> nickrud, it was a similar nick :|
[04:10] <[CC] Impsy|NH> will Banshee come as a repository on my Xubuntu Alt cd?
[04:10] <bluefoxicy> ubotu easyubuntu
[04:10] <ubotu> rumour has it, easyubuntu is an easy-to-use program for installing all your favorites. Java, Nvidia/ATI, and more. Site:  http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/.  Channel: #easyubuntu
[04:10] <intelikey> lee_ hyphen not underscore
[04:11] <tritium> [CC] Impsy|NH: banshee is in the repons
[04:11] <tritium> repos, even
[04:11] <intelikey> gconf-editor
[04:11] <Flannel> nah, nickrud, 614 was last.  I predict the next will be 616
[04:11] <nickrud> keithg, I just think that that should work, any distro. So, probably hard drive is a guess
[04:11] <soundray> nickrud: it was XOSGuest614 on the previous one
[04:11] <Vaske_Car> Need help with installing MyPHPAdmin: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15230
[04:11] <eric__> OK.
[04:11] <eric__> So now I'm trying to install breezy on my iMac G3/233. I think I asked it to erase the whole hard drive, an 80 Gb I installed several months ago. The installer created two partitions and installed the operating system without any errors. It popped out the installation CD and reset the iMac.
[04:11] <[CC] Impsy|NH> tritium: so i just use the synaptic manager to install
[04:11] <[CC] Impsy|NH> tritium: so i just use the synaptic manager to install
[04:11] <eric__> On reset, I get the yaboot greeting (Welcome, version 1.3.13 ...) and press ENTER. It says:
[04:11] <eric__> Please wait, loading kernel.... (long wait)
[04:11] <intelikey> lee_ sorry for the typo on the first try...
[04:11] <tritium> [CC] Impsy|NH: you can, yes (or apt-get, or aptitude)
[04:11] <eric__> boot:
[04:11] <eric__> Anything I put at this point comes back with "loading kernel" and then nothing.
[04:11] <nickrud> heh
[04:11] <eric__> Where did I mess up?
[04:11] <eric__> More to the point, what can I do about it?
[04:12] <eric__> Sorry for the dump - I sent more crud than I meant to.
[04:12] <tritium> Good idea, mardi_
[04:12] <tritium> Madpilot, rather
[04:12] <[CC] Impsy|NH> tritium: that Easy ubuntu looks good, is there a way to install without getting it form the net
[04:12] <keithg> nickrud, Alright, thanks.  :)  I haven't had adequate life out of this drive.  It's fairly large as well.  :(
[04:12] <mardi_> tritium: hrm?
[04:12] <tritium> [CC] Impsy|NH: I don't believe so
[04:12] <|cerebellum|> so where is this amazing 15 minute LAMP tool?
[04:12] <tritium> mardi_: wrong person, sorry
[04:12] <[CC] Impsy|NH> tritium: omg
[04:12] <Flannel> !tell |cerebellum| about LAMP
[04:12] <tritium> |cerebellum|: you mean the server install?
[04:12] <nickrud> I love/hate nick completion.
[04:13] <[CC] Impsy|NH> tritium: is there a way to use that tar.tar file?
[04:13] <tritium> [CC] Impsy|NH: not sure, I'm not the right person to ask.  I've not used it.
[04:13] <intelikey> eric__  menu.lst missing ?
[04:13] <imichel> I need helpmardi could you help me?
[04:13] <mardi_> tritium: :)
[04:13] <[CC] Impsy|NH> does anyone know if i can isntall EasyUbuntu with the tar.tar file?
[04:13] <intelikey> eric__  /boot/grub/menu.lst    missing or empty ?
[04:13] <timmy_> HOW DO I INSTALL XFCE ON DAPPER
[04:13] <imichel> mardi I need your help
[04:13] <tritium> [CC] Impsy|NH: if I'm not mistaken, it downloads/installs things of the net
[04:14] <eric__> intelikey: forgive me for sounding basic, but what's that?  This is my first linux install ever.
[04:14] <tritium> timmy_: sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[04:14] <Rug> timmy_: don't yell
[04:14] <[CC] Impsy|NH> tritium: aha i see.
[04:14] <tritium> (or use the xubuntu install CD)
[04:14] <intelikey> timmy_ don't yell .    sudo apt-get install xfce4
[04:14] <tritium> xubuntu-desktop would be preferable
[04:14] <S0me1> hi
[04:14] <imichel> tritim could you help me resolving my problem?
[04:15] <[CC] Impsy|NH> tritium: wow ubuntu really is for internet-enabled people
[04:15] <intelikey> eric__ i.yei.yei....   ask someone else.  i'll over load you.
[04:15] <mjbjr> I need to buy (preferrable) or build a new machine for ubuntu... any _recommendations_?
[04:15] <imichel> tritium; your help please
[04:15] <eric__> Erp.  Maybe point me to a link?
[04:15] <tritium> [CC] Impsy|NH: that's true of most modern OSes and distros
[04:15] <tritium> imichel: with?
[04:15] <imichel> with you
[04:16] <eric__> intelikey: maybe point me someplace I can read about what you are saying?
[04:16] <eric__> intelikey: Is this something I can fix quickly if I knew what I was doing?
[04:16] <tritium> imichel: ask your question
[04:16] <eric__> intellikey: thanks.
[04:16] <Marineboy> Crimsun thanks!
[04:17] <eric__> intellikey: Does it matter that I'm using an iMac (PPC)?
[04:17] <intelikey> eric__ yes it is.... but not knowing, you "can" do more harm than good.
[04:17] <imichel> how can I install plugin to see TV on the internet?
[04:17] <eric__> intellikey: never mind.
[04:17] <S0me1> Guys, When i try to log in to the Ubuntu by username & password ubuntu still load the gnome 20 min not very fast,did anyone have this issue before?
[04:17] <intelikey> eric__ yes there is a link specific to that architecture.
[04:17] <S0me1> Ubuntu 6.06
[04:17] <tritium> eric__: which iMac do you have?  G5?
[04:18] <eric__> intellikey: G3 iMac/233 (bondi blue).  A real dinosaur.
[04:18] <intelikey>   https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot
[04:18] <bohdan> hello
[04:18] <tritium> eric__: okay, good.  iMac G5 is still not supported (needs patches from 2.6.16 kernel)
[04:19] <eric__> tritium: I'm using ubuntu 5.10 since dapper has a known bug that won't let me boot from it.
[04:19] <adamant1988> How can I see what drivers for graphics cards I have installed?
[04:19] <tritium> eric__: I'm not familiar with a dapper bug that would prevent you from using it.  Which one?
[04:19] <intelikey> adamant1988 lsmod
[04:20] <adamant1988> just type lsmod?
[04:20] <imichel> Tritium: I want to install plugin to mozilla firefox
[04:20] <imichel> How?
[04:20] <tritium> imichel: which one?
[04:20] <intelikey> well lsmod | less   maybe :)
[04:20] <S0me1> adamant1988: lshw command
[04:20] <Surfnmate> bittorrent sucks, it has to read the iso every time it stops and reloads, anyway to stop this
[04:20] <eric__> Tritium: The OS chucks me into the Apple firmware screen saying something about being unable to allocate a chunk-tree, or somesuch.
[04:21] <Shaezsche> i need to get lilo off my boot, and i cannot boot into ubuntu to do it. how can i restore my original boot from within winxp?
[04:21] <tritium> eric__: hmm...you're using the final release, and not some flight or RC?
[04:21] <intelikey> S0me1 did i miss his question ?  "<adamant1988> How can I see what drivers for graphics cards I have installed?"
[04:21] <Marineboy> someone please,  im trying to use Rhythmbox, I get sound from everywhere else, but not from the player
[04:21] <eric__> tritium: got it straight from ubuntu.
[04:21] <eric__> 6.06, that is.
[04:21] <Mikamura_Kaoru> Kernel Panic - not syncing: Fatal exception in interrupt. >> Are there any solution for this?
[04:21] <leenks> hi - whats the best imap server to install on ubuntu ?
[04:21] <stbrenner> is there a way to get amaroK to work in gnome?
[04:22] <eric__> tritium: which kind of rots, because the intel version works great with my Sony VAIO.
[04:22] <imichel> I want to download a plugin for watching tv but i don't know which one to download
[04:22] <adamant1988> this is weird
[04:22] <S0me1> intelikey: lsmod kernel modules
[04:22] <adamant1988> I have the ATI FGLRX or w/e driver... and it's not working, I can't even play ppracer
[04:22] <S0me1> intelikey:but it will help
[04:22] <tritium> eric__: do you have a bug #?
[04:23] <S0me1> intelikey:lshw & lspci very clear to the user
[04:23] <tritium> adamant1988: ubuntu fglrx packages, or someting off of ati.com?
[04:23] <adamant1988> I used Easyubuntu to install it
[04:23] <imichel> I want to download a plugin for watching tv but i don't know which one to download
[04:23] <noahod> Hey all, Does anyone know if the bcm4xxx driver supports rfmon, and as such, kismet?
[04:23] <santiagokq> i upgraded from ubuntu breezy to dapper, and now openoffice's quickstart feature doesn't work anymore... i wasn't using any special applet, just the default option in tools - options - memory - quickstarter... any ideas ?
[04:23] <tritium> imichel: watching TV how?  Do you have a TV tuner card?
[04:23] <garryfre> I had to set my Dapper drive in bios to the first drive in order to boot it, or it would say Invalid boot sig if using grub, or image too bug overlaps lilo stage two if I tried lilo. Now I switch the drive to first, and load it using grub installed on the drive.
[04:24] <intelikey> S0me1 is there a better way to see what "drivers for graphics cards i have installed"  ?
[04:24] <[CC] Impsy|NH> does anyone have linux on their ipoD?
[04:24] <lee_> I have linux installed on my dog
[04:24] <imichel> i don't know that we need tuner card!
[04:24] <lee_> It runs quite well
[04:25] <tritium> I'll be back later on
[04:25] <CanadianSnow> how do i install java?
[04:25] <CanadianSnow> like, runtime or w.e?
[04:26] <adamant1988> this sucks..
[04:26] <adamant1988> it's like the driver isn't even installed.
[04:26] <CanadianSnow> wut
[04:26] <tritium> CanadianSnow: there are now sun java packages in multiverse
[04:26] <CanadianSnow> did u reboot? :P
[04:26] <CanadianSnow> how do i get there tritium?
[04:26] <nickrud> santiagokq, I just set the option you mentioned, and it's now working again for me (icon and all)
[04:26] <adamant1988> I used EasyUbuntu to install ATI drivers and nothings working with 3d
[04:26] <Flannel> !tell CanadianSnow about java
[04:26] <CanadianSnow> ok thx lol
[04:26] <adamant1988> it's like nothing changed at all.
[04:26] <leenks> CanadianSnow: sudo apt-get unstall sun-jdk1.5.0 or something
[04:26] <garryfre> To be clear, I'm satisfied with the method I have to use to boot it. Its just takes me a second to set it as first boot drive.
[04:27] <tritium> !sunjava
[04:27] <ubotu> In Breezy: j2re1.4 is in multiverse. In Dapper: sun-java5-jre is in multiverse
[04:27] <tritium> CanadianSnow: ^^
[04:27] <tritium> CanadianSnow: apt-cache search sun-java to see what's available (after enabling multiverse repos)
[04:27] <CanadianSnow> uninstall? :S
[04:27] <adamant1988> grrr
[04:27] <leenks> or maybe sun-java5-jdk
[04:27] <santiagokq> i upgraded from ubuntu breezy to dapper, and now openoffice's quickstart feature doesn't work anymore... i wasn't using any special applet, just the default option in tools - options - memory - quickstarter... any ideas ?
[04:28] <earthen> could some one tell me how too restart the inetd daemon
[04:28] <adamant1988> I used those commands... it told me my card but I can't figure out my drivers
[04:28] <garryfre> I was told that easybuntu was for use with breezy not dapper. I got the impression that it is not for updating to dapper.
[04:28] <intelikey>  /etc/init.d/inetd restart
[04:29] <leenks> /etc/init.d/inetd restart
[04:29] <nickrud> santiagokq, only one: uninstall openoffice & all it's dependencies & reinstall them. I have a dapper install, not a breezy upgrade
[04:29] <leenks> /etc/init.d/xinetd restart
[04:29] <leenks> one of those two
[04:29] <maddy> how do i run bitterrent?
[04:29] <tritium> sudo invoke-rc.d <service name> restart
[04:29] <santiagokq> nickrud: ok thanks i'll try
[04:29] <leenks> maddler_: you might want to install azeurus
[04:29] <santiagokq> nickrud: so you say i should have fresh installed?
[04:29] <leenks> azureus even
[04:29] <earthen> intelikey, leenks inetd is not in the init,d list
[04:29] <maddy> hm...
[04:29] <leenks> earthen: xinetd?
[04:29] <maddy> thanx
[04:30] <nickrud> santiagokq, ideally upgrades are equivalent to fresh installs.
[04:30] <earthen> leenks, oook thats why I could find it  thanks
[04:30] <intelikey> earthen i've never used inetd... <shrugs/>
[04:30] <leenks> earthen: xinetd is like inetd but is better imo
[04:30] <nickrud> santiagokq, ymmv
[04:30] <leenks> much easier / flexible to configure
[04:30] <santiagokq> nickrud: should i uninstall ooo2 with configuration files included?
[04:31] <disinterested_pe> if my keyboard isnt listed in the keyboard layouts is there anyway for ubuntu to detect which kindof keyboard ur useing?
[04:31] <eric__> intelikey or tritium: I'm stuck in a box and I'm hoping you can give me some advice.
[04:31] <nickrud> santiagokq, mark all packages for purging. It's probaly easiest in synaptic or aptitude
[04:31] <eric__> I guess I need to edit my yaboot.conf file.
[04:31] <earthen> leenks, xinetd doesn't seem to be there eather
[04:31] <tritium> eric__: I'm on my way out.  I'll be back later on.
[04:31] <eric__> But I can't get past the "boot" prompt.
[04:31] <eric__> OK.
[04:32] <santiagokq> nickrud: it wants to remove ubuntu-desktop... is that ok as long as i reinstall it later?
[04:32] <leenks> earthen: then maybe you didnt ever install it
[04:32] <cha0tic> how do i configure mny sound card in ubuntu ? its beingp icked up in device manager, but its not working with GStreamer plugin
[04:32] <nickrud> santiagokq, exactly
[04:32] <tritium> intelikey: is likely (no pun intended) more able to help you anyway, eric__
[04:32] <earthen> leenks, I'm trying to get samba swat working and the howto I'm reading is telling me to restart that but I doesn't say how
[04:32] <intelikey> eric__ i don't have a mac    but try the tab key
[04:33] <leenks> earthen: sudo apt-get install inetd
[04:33] <cha0tic> anyone ?
[04:33] <earthen> leenks, no I didn't install it, but the config file was there for it so I asume that it was there
[04:34] <santiagokq> nickrud: thanks, i'll try
[04:34] <eric__> intelikey: TAB -> choose 'Linux' or 'old'.
[04:34] <intelikey> yep
[04:34] <eric__> intelikey: maybe boot up in my 5.10 live CD?
[04:34] <earthen> leenks, thanks for the help it working fine now
[04:34] <nickrud> santiagokq, it'll not break anything, and it may fix it. But, if it doesn't I'm recommending fresh installs over upgrades in general
[04:34] <intelikey> that's a thought.
[04:35] <eric__> then do CTRL-OPT-F1?
[04:35] <leenks> earthen: cool :)
[04:36] <intelikey> eric__ if i knew anything about apples i'd tell ya.  but we are comparing apples and yellows here..... or is that oranges  i forget...  what ever a pc is.  :)
[04:36] <tsp> Does ubuntu dapper come with a live cd?
[04:37] <tsp> If so, where do I get it?
[04:37] <Flannel> tsp: the desktop CD is a liveCD
[04:37] <tsp> ah
[04:37] <eric__> tsp: I believe the 6.06 is a live CD.
[04:37] <tsp> How do I boot gnopernicus when it starts? the details are sketchy on the wiki
[04:37] <santiagokq> my deskbar doesn't want to open web searches, i guess it's related to firefox... which setting should i look?
[04:37] <bimberi> tsp: it's called a "Desktop CD" on the download page
[04:38] <James_M> ?
[04:38] <Geoffrey2> anyone had a problem with a wireless connection dissapearing when you reboot the computer?
[04:38] <tsp> ok - What will happen when it boots? I need gnopernicus to load
[04:38] <James_M> no, but I need help with my wireless connection as well.
[04:38] <Xenophoebic> anybody install dapper on a Chaintech VNF4 Ultra? last ubuntu wouldnt work either... keyboard wouldnt work on lang select...
[04:38] <Geoffrey2> seems wireless is a big problem with Dapper
[04:39] <James_M> yeah
[04:39] <James_M> wait, lemmie do a test of your statement
[04:39] <bimberi> tsp: on an installed system you can add it to the startup programs in System -> Preferences -> Sessions
[04:39] <eric__> intelikey: back to basics, then.  Let's say I don't care about running Mac OS on this box, just Ubuntu.
[04:39] <eric__> intelikey: That being the case, do I still need to confugure yaboot?
[04:40] <bimberi> heh
[04:40] <eric__> configure?
[04:40] <intelikey> eric__ yes.  you need some way to tell the boot loader what and where to boot
[04:41] <eric__> intelikey: you mean which drive/partition?
[04:41] <SD> does gcc 3.4.5 come with ubuntu by default?
[04:41] <intelikey> grub yaboot lilo  whatever.  it has to be configured to boot some os.  yes drive/partition kernel initrd.img
[04:41] <defunkt> !cxoffice
[04:41] <ubotu> parse error: Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, defunkt
[04:42] <defunkt> !wine
[04:42] <ubotu> Wine is a compatibility layer for running windows programs on linux.  see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Wine for more info.
[04:42] <intelikey> eric__ basicly the boot loader has to know where the kernel initrd.img and root-fs are.
[04:43] <intelikey> you can inter that manually each time or configure the boot loader.
[04:43] <eric__> intelikey: If the boot loader has it wrong, will it just hang or will I get that I/O error?
[04:43] <intelikey> i/o error most likely
[04:43] <garryfre> I have read that in the text mode dapper install it is possible to tell grub to install but in the graphical install that it will only install on the first drive on the system. I was unable to get into text mode install.