[01:05] <fluvvell> anywhere I can check on a system to see if there is a proxy server setting ?
[01:37] <pmatulis> fluvvell: try under /etc/apt
[01:38] <fluvvell> pmatulis, solved it thanks.
[02:08] <pnunn> Hi Guys,  got a bit of an issue here with eucalyptus 2.0.  I've got the UEC servers up and running OK, can start an instance OK, but when I try and attache a volume (which seems to be created OK) it never shows up in the instance on the /dev/ I'm giving it.  Any ideas? Any idea where to look for the issue?
[02:15] <pting> does anyone know if you have logrotate with dateext, is the date in UTC or system time? I'm guessing system time
[03:39] <fluvvell> anybody used a gsm wireless as a main access interface and set it up under /etc/network/interfaces ? I seem to have screwed up NetworkManager, its hiding and wont come out to play.
[03:40] <fluvvell> and i need it nailed up anyway.
[03:57] <demonspork> I have an Ubuntu server 10.04 that I can log into and it takes 5-10 seconds to prompt and accept authentication via SSH. I have Ubuntu server 9.10 on an old 700mhz celeron that takes less than a second to respond during login. What could be causing this lag in the newer faster server?
[03:57] <demonspork> new server is dual Xeon 2.4Ghz, HP Proliant DL380 G3
[04:10] <qman__> demonspork, it's probably one of the scripts that run at login
[04:10] <demonspork> with a default Ubuntu 10.04 install
[04:10] <qman__> yes
[04:11] <qman__> mine sometimes hang noticeably on the one that checks for updates
[04:12] <demonspork> but this delay is occuring before the password challenge
[04:12] <demonspork> it delays before asking the password
[04:13] <demonspork> I thought all the login scripts ran after you log in, not while it is waiting for you to give your password?
[04:13] <qman__> they do, that must be something else
[04:13] <qman__> is your server getting lots of SSH connection attempts?
[04:13] <demonspork> how do I check that?
[04:14] <demonspork> I am spending the first couple of weeks learning how to configure firewall and stuff like that
[04:14] <qman__> netstat would show a lot of half-open or recently completed ones
[04:14] <qman__> and if it's a brute force attack, /var/log/auth.log would show lots of failures
[04:16] <qman__> if you have SSH open to the internet, you will get hit by bots
[04:16] <qman__> lots of ways to mitigate the impact of that
[04:16] <demonspork> is that where fail2ban rules come into play?
[04:16] <qman__> that's one option
[04:16] <qman__> firewall connection limiting is another
[04:16] <demonspork> or do I just set up iptables rules for excessive requests over a time period
[04:17] <demonspork> I have been reading through iptables documentation
[04:17] <qman__> both work, it's up to you
[04:17] <qman__> UFW supports it too
[04:17] <demonspork> and I recently found iptables-apply, which is going to help keep me from bricking my server
[04:18] <demonspork> so the last failed attempt was 3 attempt root logins from the same host about an hour ago
[04:18] <qman__> but yeah, a brute force attack would explain slow SSH logins
[04:18] <qman__> are local logins also slow, or just SSH?
[04:18] <demonspork> I haven't been able to log in locally since this last saturday when I put it in the data center
[04:18] <demonspork> and I think I did notice something odd
[04:18] <qman__> ah
[04:19] <qman__> well, I would implement the firewall option and see if it fixes the problem
[04:19] <qman__> if it doesn't, there could be another reason
[04:19] <qman__> they're hard to pin down though
[04:20] <demonspork> when I was pinging to test that the network was fully functional there was a similar feeling delay before it began giving me the ping results, whereas a slow as computer I have with 9.10 server has no delay before it starts pinging and giving results
[04:20] <demonspork> the results aren't longer response times than they should be, it just has a delay before it starts feeding them to me in the console
[04:20] <demonspork> but other things work instantly without an discernable delay, including apt-get and such
[04:21] <meltingwax> i recented installed UEC with one cluster master and one node, and when i go to the web admin page for the cluster master i am required to login, however the account i made during installation does not work. How do I create an account I can log in with? I can ssh and get to root on the machine
[04:23] <qman__> demonspork, I'd run netstat and see if you have a lot of incoming connections
[04:24] <qman__> netstat -ln | grep -v ^unix
[04:24] <qman__> err
[04:24] <qman__> netstat -n | grep -v ^unix
[04:25] <qman__> bah, wrong again
[04:25] <qman__> netstat -an | grep -v ^unix
[04:25] <qman__> there
[04:25] <qman__> you should obviously have some, depending on what you're running
[04:26] <qman__> but pages upon pages of connections would indicate some problem
[04:31] <demonspork> yeah, they are all accounted for
[04:31] <demonspork> either me, IRC networks or the users of my bouncer
[04:31] <au> D:
[04:32] <demonspork> hello face person
[04:33] <demonspork> how easy is it to configure 4 lower powered servers to work as mirrors of sites hosted on the main server
[04:33] <demonspork> also less hdd space
[04:33] <au> howdy :)
[04:33] <au> demonspork: you could use rsync
[04:34] <demonspork> but how do incoming connections hit the mirror instead of the main?
[04:34] <demonspork> is that simply with a DNS entry or some sort of load balancing setup
[04:34] <au> it's easy - http://www.howtoforge.com/mirroring_with_rsync
[04:35] <au> rsync just synchronizes files and directories from one location to another
[05:02] <fmontezuma> Someone can help me build a private cloud?
[05:23] <fmontezuma> Someone can help me build a private cloud?
[06:10] <qman__> demonspork, round-robin DNS
[06:10] <qman__> for static content anyway
[06:21] <battossai> hi all
[06:22] <blackmatter> hello
[06:22] <battossai> iptables v1.4.4: Couldn't load match `nth':/lib/xtables/libipt_nth.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file
[06:23] <_Techie_> hello
[06:23] <battossai> how can i fix this kind of error
[06:23] <qman__> what kernel are you running?
[06:23] <battossai> is there some one can help me
[06:23] <battossai> qman__ : 2.6.32-21-server #32-Ubuntu SMP Fri Apr 16 09:17:34 UTC 2010 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[06:26] <qman__> well, I don't have that file, and a search on the ubuntu packages turns up nothing
[06:26] <qman__> what are you doing when that error occurs?
[06:26] <battossai> qman__ : i try to do this "iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -o eth0 -m nth --counter 7 --every 3 --packet 1 -j SNAT --to-source xxxx "
[06:26] <qman__> also, have you compiled anything from source, or changed any module configuration?
[06:27] <battossai> i'm not complied anything yet
[06:27] <battossai> that's why i'm need help about it
[06:29] <qman__> from what I'm reading, it looks like -m nth is deprecated
[06:29] <qman__> though I'm not sure what function of it you need
[06:30] <battossai> it's kind like marking packet
[06:30] <battossai> same function on mikrotik router os
[06:31] <qman__> it was apparently replaced with different modules in kernel 2.6.18
[06:31] <qman__> so anybody familiar with the changeover should be able to help
[06:31] <qman__> unfortunately I'm not, so I don't really know what you should be using instead
[06:31] <qman__> maybe -m statistic, or -m random
[06:32] <battossai> yes ... i'm stuck on it
[06:32] <battossai> it say running well on centos
[06:34] <qman__> "The RANDOM, nth, and some other module which escapes me right now, were all merged into the Statistic module."
[06:34] <qman__> so I'd try -m statistic
[06:34] <qman__> it may just work, or the syntax may be different
[06:35] <qman__> but that should at least point you in the right direction
[06:36] <qman__> it's a change made in the debian upstream, so it should be well-documented
[06:36] <battossai> what about xtables-addons-common packages
[06:37] <battossai> is it the same one for that lib ?
[06:37] <qman__> searching the ubuntu packages site revealed that no packages contained that file
[06:37] <qman__> though that only may be for main
[06:39] <qman__> that package does not contain the nth module
[06:40] <qman__> as shown here: http://packages.ubuntu.com/lucid/i386/xtables-addons-common/filelist
[06:40] <battossai> yes
[06:40] <qman__> the statistic module is supposed to provide that functionality, and is built into the kernel
[06:44] <battossai> Please add nth and random match modules and related iptables support to the iptables-mod-ipopt and iptables-extra packages. Modules and iptables patches are included with the 2.6 kernel and available with old patch-o-matic patches for netfilter for the 2.4 kernel.
[06:45] <battossai> is it kind of solution ?
[07:00] <SpamapS> battossai: are those modules in the latest release of iptables?
[07:01] <battossai> SpamapS : how do i check it ?
[07:02] <SpamapS> battossai: download the source from netfilter.org
[07:09] <battossai> actually i just need to change my out ip for x packet
[07:09] <battossai> to avoid block for postfix
[07:10] <battossai> my idea is : every 3 packet change the outging ip
[07:10] <SpamapS> uh
[07:10] <SpamapS> that sounds like a bad idea. ;)
[07:10] <SpamapS> are you spamming?
[07:10] <battossai> no
[07:11] <battossai> i do this for prevent my client marked as spam
[07:11] <battossai> i'm kind tiny internet provider in my town
[07:18] <SpamapS> battossai: you shouldn't have to worry about being marked as a spammer then
[07:18] <SpamapS> battossai: if you're just sending regular email.
[07:19] <SpamapS> battossai: if your users are sending spam, then you should be enforcing strict authentication, and making sure the headers show that, so you can respond to abuse complaints.
[07:19] <battossai> it's kind a hard to tell it to my customer
[07:19] <SpamapS> tell what?
[07:20] <SpamapS> that they can't send spam anymore? ;)
[07:20] <battossai> their trafic for email is high
[07:20] <SpamapS> Yes, because they're probably spamming people.
[07:20] <SpamapS> If they have actual closed-loop email, and follow best practices in their email content, they should have no problems.
[07:20] <battossai> customer must be blaming me if their email get spam because of them
[07:21] <battossai> i've already have spam assain on postfix
[07:21] <SpamapS> battossai: you should not be marking spam on a relay. That will cause you lots of problems IMO.
[07:23] <battossai> thas's why i have idea to prevent my customer complaining if they have trouble sending email
[07:24] <battossai> not every day i marked as spam
[07:24] <battossai> but i'll try to minimalize it
[07:26] <SpamapS> battossai: you can avoid being marked as spam by being very responsive to complaints, and cutting users off who do not follow your acceptable use policies, which disallow sending email to users who have not explicitly requested it.
[07:27] <SpamapS> battossai: it doesn't really matter how many IP addresses you spread over.. eventually they'll just all be on RBL's unless you stop sending email that users are complaining about.
[07:27] <battossai> i wish i could do that :(
[07:27] <battossai> customer always right
[07:27] <battossai> :(
[07:28] <battossai> SpamapS : i think i have to use manual solution
[07:28] <battossai> bind postfix
[07:28] <SpamapS> battossai: lol, you are a spam-enabler then. At least charge them more money for the trouble.
[07:29] <battossai> SpamapS : hahahaha ... i wish i could do that too
[07:29] <battossai> mean while ... i keep using manual solution
[07:30] <battossai> if complaint come .. use bind on postfix
[07:30] <battossai> thanks anyway for your support SpamapS  and qman__
[07:30] <SpamapS> battossai: This will only buy you, I would guess, a few weeks.
[07:31] <SpamapS> battossai: do you get a lot of complaints?
[07:31] <battossai> not al ot for this week
[07:32] <SpamapS> What do you do with the complaints?
[07:32] <battossai> just get 1 black list from Fiveten : added 2001-04-20; we do not accept mail from china
[07:32] <battossai> Return codes were: <IP_ADDRESS>
[07:33] <dylanvassallo> Hi, I am running Hardy Server and I need to install a later version of avahi-daemon than what is available in the Hardy repos. Is it safe to download and install a version from the repo of a more recent release?
[07:33] <SpamapS> battossai: thats very old ;)
[07:33] <battossai> hahahahaha
[07:33] <dylpkls91> Yes, I have reasons for needing to run Hardy though.
[07:33] <SpamapS> dylpkls91: it might already be in backports
[07:33] <dylpkls91> It's not :(
[07:34] <battossai> well ... it's ok for now i thing
[07:34] <battossai> just using manual troubelshoot
[07:34] <SpamapS> dylpkls91: safest thing is to download the source package and try to build it on hardy.
[07:34] <battossai> :D
[07:34] <dylpkls91> Okay, I'll try. Could I break things by trying to install the Lucid package in Hardy?
[07:35] <SpamapS> battossai: Please, please please, consider finding another way to make money... you are basically stealing resources from every email provider on the planet by allowing your clients to abuse your mail server. :-/
[07:36] <SpamapS> dylpkls91: it likely won't work without adding the dependencies too.
[07:36] <battossai> SpamapS : my client only using my smtp just for outgoing only
[07:36] <dylpkls91> I see. Thanks
[07:36] <battossai> and i filter it by ip
[07:37] <SpamapS> dylpkls91: if the build works without any changes, you should consider submitting a backport request for it with the information that it built and installed without changes. :)
[07:37] <SpamapS> !backports
[07:38] <dylpkls91> SpamapS: I will try compiling and submit a backport request if it succeeds.
[07:38] <dylpkls91> ubottu: I checked, there's no backported version of avahi-daemon for Hardy.
[07:38]  * SpamapS is reminded that he wanted to backport the latest moin to hardy/lucid too
[07:40]  * dylpkls91 is feeling stupid for trying to converse with a bot
[07:51] <ttx> SpamapS: about bug 375371 -- wondering if you have a clear solution to follow now
[08:29] <SpamapS> ttx: I think that one will be fine. Not sure if the apport limitations on SELECT INTO OUTFILE and LOAD DATA INFILE are worthy of release notes.. but they'll certainly be felt by some users.
[08:29] <SpamapS> ttx: err, I mean, I think the code int he merge proposal will be fine
[08:30] <ttx> SpamapS: it's not been sponsored yet, right
[08:30] <SpamapS> ttx: but we should probably open tasks against the pacakges that build-depend on mysql-server just to check them out.
[08:30] <SpamapS> ttx: there are only two (mathiaz already uploaded a working php5 package)
[08:31] <ttx> SpamapS: ok. I'll sponsor that one before FinalFreeze hits, then
[08:31] <SpamapS> ttx: woot!
[08:32]  * ttx wathces with anxiety his todo list grow
[08:32] <SpamapS> ttx: I have to get some sleep now.. tty in 8 hours. ;)
[08:32] <ttx> yep
[09:03] <rahman> Hi, I am trying to import some new schemas to openldap. In ubuntu 10.04 server guide it says "sudo ldapadd -Y EXTERNAL -H ldapi:/// -f /etc/ldap/schema/inetorgperson.ldif" and it works but I cant import phamm.scema, radius.schema files same way. As I understand the command expects ldif format? If so, why 3rd party apps provide schema files instead of ldif files? And how can I import the schema files?
[09:23] <maswan> \sh: hey, you might know. is there a source for current hpacucli debs, or is aliened rpms as good as it gets if you need something to support p812s?
[09:28] <kaushal> hi
[09:29] <kaushal> I have 02:08.0 Ethernet controller: Intel Corporation 82546EB Gigabit Ethernet Controller (Copper) (rev 03)
[09:30] <kaushal> when i try to load 8.04 it says Network module not found
[09:30] <kaushal> is there a way to overcome this issue ?
[09:31] <\sh> maswan: hmm..only that what's available for debian/ubuntu on http://h18004.www1.hp.com/products/servers/software/debian/index.html?jumpid=reg_R1002_USEN
[09:31] <kaushal> is there a way to load e1000 module while installation ?
[09:32] <maswan> \sh: ok
[09:34] <\sh> maswan: hm..the latest ubuntu version support looks like is karmic
[09:35] <\sh> maswan: and regarding p812s there is nothing on http://h20000.www2.hp.com/bizsupport/TechSupport/DriverDownload.jsp?lang=en&cc=us&prodNameId=4103887&taskId=135&prodTypeId=329290&prodSeriesId=4103885&submit.y=0&submit.x=0&lang=en&cc=us
[09:35] <\sh> eventually you have to alienate the rpms from RHEL5
[09:36] <maswan> well, that's what we have done
[09:36] <maswan> we were just wondering if we missed anything obvious
[09:38] <\sh> maswan: nope...we need as well some new drivers for lucid at some time...but HP Germany is not as Linux affine as I wished
[09:50] <maswan> \sh: Of course, had we really been annoyed at them, we could have failed acceptance testing for these machines unless they make a deb, I think. ;)
[10:15] <bigbrovar> am having this error "soft lockup - cpu#1 stuck for 61s [swapper:0] anyone encountered it before?
[10:29] <ztripez> what version is needed for Ubuntu Enterprise Could? I downloaded 10.04 but there was no install option for UEC on the boot screen
[10:30] <AnAnt> Hello, I need help about some setup, I got an Ubuntu machine in my network that I use as a server, I got bind9 installed on it, and I got a router that runs DHCP, the question is: is it possible to configure the DNS server on Ubuntu to get the hostname,ipaddress pairs ?
[10:54] <kaushal> hi
[10:54] <kaushal> is there a way to load network module while installing 8.04
[10:54] <twb> What network module?
[10:54] <kaushal> e1000
[10:56] <kaushal> twb: I mean ethernet controller card module
[10:56] <kaushal> when i try to load 8.04 it says no network module
[10:57] <\sh> maswan: the question is, how can we force HP to release actually updated hp utils or even the hp utils they have for newer ubuntu releases
[10:58] <kaushal> 02:08.0 Ethernet controller: Intel Corporation 82546EB Gigabit Ethernet Controller (Copper) (rev 03)
[10:58] <twb> kaushal: run "lspci -nn".  Paste the output into http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/
[10:58] <kaushal> sure
[10:58] <twb> Oh, that one is "sudo modprobe e1000"
[10:58] <twb> It should Just Work
[10:58] <kaushal> yeah
[10:59] <kaushal> I mean while installing the OS 8.04
[10:59] <kaushal> I am using pxe image to load 8.04 on the server
[10:59] <twb> I *believe* that should also Just WOrk
[11:00] <twb> You're trying to load the installer (debian-installer kernel and ramdisk) over PXE, right?
[11:00] <kaushal> yes
[11:01] <kaushal> twb: am i clear ?
[11:02] <kaushal> twb: Ubuntu 10.04 works perfectly fine
[11:02] <twb> OK, one moment
[11:03] <kaushal> while ubuntu 8.04 does not get loaded since it does not have network module for 02:08.0 Ethernet controller: Intel Corporation 82546EB Gigabit Ethernet Controller (Copper) (rev 03)
[11:04] <twb> The e1000 driver is in the hardy d-i ramdisk
[11:04] <twb> zcat /boot/ubuntu-hardy-i386.initrd | cpio -t | grep e1000
[11:04] <twb> $ zcat /mnt/boot/ubuntu-hardy-i386.initrd | cpio -t | fgrep e1000.ko ==> lib/modules/2.6.24-26-generic/kernel/drivers/net/e1000/e1000.ko
[11:07] <kaushal> ok
[11:08] <kaushal> twb: not sure i understand that
[11:09] <twb> It means it should Just Work
[11:09] <kaushal> ok
[11:10] <kaushal> twb: if i need to load it externally ?
[11:10] <kaushal> is that possible
[11:16] <kaushal> twb: got it
[11:16] <kaushal> it has that module
[11:16] <kaushal> zcat initrd.gz | cpio -t | fgrep e1000.ko
[11:16] <kaushal> lib/modules/2.6.24-19-generic/kernel/drivers/net/e1000/e1000.ko
[11:16] <kaushal> not sure why it fails while loading
[11:19] <twb> kaushal: you shouldn't need to
[11:20] <twb> If you do, switch to vt2 and run "modprobe lib/.../e1000.ko", where ... is the rest of the path
[11:21] <kaushal> twb: got it
[11:21] <kaushal> twb: whats the latest kernel version available in hardy
[11:22] <twb> 2.6.24
[11:22] <twb> Kernel versions are fixed at release time
[11:22] <kaushal> ok
[11:24] <aliverius> guys, is there any package for vlc-cli only?
[11:31] <twb> aliverius: grep-aptavail -S vlc -s Package
[11:31] <twb> aliverius: that finds a "vlc-nox"; try that
[11:31] <AnAnt> Hello, I need help about some setup, I got an Ubuntu machine in my network that I use as a server, I got bind9 installed on it, and I got a router that runs DHCP, the question is: is it possible to configure the DNS server on Ubuntu to get the hostname,ipaddress pairs from the router's DHCP service ?
[12:16] <soren> ttx: Does Eucalyptus support EBS snapsohts?
[12:22] <ttx> soren: I didn't test that. Daviey or smoser might have a more current answer
[12:23] <Daviey> soren, Sorry.. it's not something i've been testing.. I can test it, but won't have an answer for you within the next 2 hours.
[12:23] <ttx> will this mysql testsuite run ever end...
[12:23] <Daviey> ttx, no
[12:23] <soren> ttx, Daviey: Don't bother. I was just idly wondering. It doesn't really matter much.
[12:24] <Daviey> soren, I am now interested for myself :)
[12:25] <soren> I don't know if it works, but there at least seems to be some code in Eucalyptus that's meant to handleit.
[12:26] <Daviey> soren, Interesting.. it's not a procedure i've ran.  But if you have a handy linky to "how" to do it, i would appreciate that
[12:26] <Daviey> (even if it is how to do it on AWS)
[12:27] <soren> No idea, really. I've only ever used it once and that was from Elasticfox.
[12:30]  * ttx hopes the testsuite will end before the big freeze
[12:32] <soren> Daviey: Ah, worked it out. It does seem to support it. It uses lvm on the EBS server (which I forget what is called).
[12:32] <soren> Whether it works is a different story, of course.
[12:33]  * soren does not miss navigating around Java code... at all.
[12:35] <ttx> soren: I guess you particularly don't miss navigating around *this* Java code in particular ;)
[12:38] <soren> No comment :)
[12:46] <domas> hi!
[12:54] <J_P> hi all
[12:55] <J_P> How is possible to mount a network dia via smb with normal user?
[12:55] <J_P> with root not problem, but with normal user I have message: "mount error(1): Operation not permitted"
[13:02] <ttx> *sigh* Completed: Failed 1/711 tests, 99.86% were successful.
[13:04] <soren> ttx: Which package?
[13:05] <ttx> mysql-5.1
[13:05] <soren> ttx: Was the source package renamed since lucid?
[13:05] <soren> Ah, yes, there it is.
[13:05] <ttx> soren: apparently, yes.
[13:06] <ttx> soren: I quickly got lost trying to understand the mysql source package names :)
[13:06] <soren> Is this in a ppa?
[13:06] <ttx> soren: it's a proposed branch that moves /tmp to /var/tmp
[13:06] <soren> The one in ubuntu proper seems to build fine. What's the problme?
[13:07] <ttx> https://code.launchpad.net/~clint-fewbar/ubuntu/maverick/mysql-5.1/maverick-beta-papercuts/+merge/32558
[13:07] <ttx> looks like one of the tests should have been kept in the loop
[13:09]  * ttx could use auto-building of proposed branches, that would help in only getting buildable branch merge proposals
[13:10] <ttx> (cough) Gerrit (cough)
[13:10] <soren> "Gerrit"?
[13:10] <ttx> gerrit does that.
[13:10] <soren> I see.
[13:17] <BuZZ-dEE> hello, i want to start a java-program at ubuntu startup and this program needs write access to .../tomcat6/webapps/folder. how can i do that?
[13:24] <ztripez> what version is needed for Ubuntu Enterprise Could? I downloaded 10.04 but there was no install option for UEC on the boot screen?
[13:41] <smoser> soren, i'm fairly sure, yes.
[13:49] <b0ot> anyone know of anything that would allow you to stream videos on demand accross your LAN with a decent frontend?
[13:50] <frans> q
[13:50] <frans> hi, all
[13:55] <ztripez> b0ot, vlc? there is a bouch of front/backen build with a vlc base
[13:57] <Martens1984> I'm trying to add both a Ubuntu machine and server to a W2K3-server AD/DC but it wont work. With Likewise I keep getting: Error: Lsass Error [code 0x00080047]
[13:57] <Martens1984> 9502 (0x251E) DNS_ERROR_BAD_PACKET - A bad packet was received from a DNS
[13:57] <Martens1984> server. Potentially the requested address does not exist.
[13:57] <Martens1984> what could be wrong?
[14:03] <zoopster> ztripez: the option is in the 10.04 server cd boot -
[14:05] <zoopster> b0ot: there are several options...ztripez mentioned vlc, several htpc respins have simple setups for this
[14:14] <kaushal> hi
[14:14] <b0ot> zoopster, the problem for me has been finding something wtih a front end for the client
[14:14] <kaushal> when i try to load 8.04 using pxe image i get
[14:14] <zoopster> b0ot: how do you mean? myth's front end is simple
[14:15] <kaushal> http://pastie.org/1162744
[14:15] <kaushal> please suggest further
[14:15] <kaushal> zcat initrd.gz | cpio -t | fgrep e1000.ko
[14:15] <kaushal> lib/modules/2.6.24-26-generic/kernel/drivers/net/e1000/e1000.ko
[14:15] <ttx> jdstrand: i'm reinstalling an i386 node controller to answer your questions on bug 628055
[14:15] <zoopster> b0ot: I had been using my ps3 as a FE too
[14:15] <kaushal> I have e1000.ko module too
[14:16] <ttx> jdstrand: we'll try to have a closer feedback loop, that will prevent me from having to reinstall each time :)
[14:17] <b0ot> zoopster, do you have any specific software suggestions... or maybe a link to a good vlc tutorial?
[14:18] <zoopster> b0ot: not really...google is your best friend there - too many ways to do it.
[14:19] <Martens1984> Who has experiance with intergrating ubuntu to Windwos AD/DC
[14:34] <zoopster> Martens1984: you might want to find a likewise channel or mailing list
[14:59] <hallyn> SpamapS: have you seen bug 639768?  do you have time to look into it?
[15:11] <qwert> How to install ubuntu server
[15:11] <qwert> ?
[15:13] <Pici> qwert: Burn server iso to disc, boot off of disk.
[15:15] <qwert> Pici: Is the installtion difficult?
[15:15] <Pici> qwert: In my opinion, no.
[15:16] <qwert> Pici: Could you link me to its installation?
[15:22] <Pici> qwert: It looks similar to the alternate install that the desktop cd uses: https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/installation-guide/i386/index.html
[15:22] <Pici> That information there makes it out to be alot harder than it actually is, since it goes through every single option.
[15:23] <thafreak> So this new "Amazon" linux that they have an AMI for...what's it REALLY under the hood? Is it centos, fedora, or ubuntu?
[15:28] <as> i just upgraded one of my domu's from hardy to lucid and it now dies with "init: procps main process (508) terminated with status 255" upon boot
[15:29] <as> i am pretty much lost, does anyone have a pointer?
[15:34] <thafreak> So this new "Amazon" linux that they have an AMI for...what's it REALLY under the hood? Is it centos, fedora, or ubuntu?
[15:37] <ttx> thafreak: apparently it's a customized redhat/centos
[15:37] <ttx> thafreak: with ubuntu's cloud-init stuff baked in
[15:38] <ttx> mathiaz: o/
[15:38] <mathiaz> ttx: o/
[15:38] <mathiaz> ttx: wazzup?
[15:38] <ttx> mathiaz: just noticed a bug apparently about the samba you sponsored yesterday
[15:38] <ttx> bug 639768
[15:39] <ttx> haven't had time to investigate, and wil have eucacall and eod soon, so I was wondering if you had any spare cycle
[15:39] <ttx> I wonder how that patch could cause that, but hey
[15:40] <ttx> maybe before it was failing fast, and now it's running slowly, or something
[15:40] <mathiaz> ttx: right
[15:41] <mathiaz> ttx: it probably is a side effect of the new package
[15:41] <mathiaz> ttx: worth investigating though
[15:41] <mathiaz> ttx: but I doubt the actual patch causes that
[15:41] <ttx> mathiaz: i'll assign to you, feel free to bump to spamaps if needed
[15:41] <mike3> hi guys, i just upgraded to 10.04 from 8.04. Is there anything I should know?
[15:41] <mathiaz> ttx: sure - there is also a security update that was pushed out earlier
[15:41] <mathiaz> ttx: may be related to that one
[15:42] <ttx> mathiaz: yes, I guess it just needs some time for reproduction work
[15:42] <ttx> strange, but has seen widespread reproduction over the last hours
[15:43] <hggdh> Daviey: good afternoon, we have a new patch ;-)
[15:43] <mathiaz> ttx: I'll look into it
[15:43] <ttx> FinalFreeze sceduled at 1700UTC
[15:43] <Daviey> hggdh, linky?
[15:43] <Daviey> hggdh, I'm swapping at the moment :(
[15:44] <hggdh> Daviey: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~eucalyptus-maintainers/eucalyptus/2.0.0-lp/revision/1241?start_revid=1241
[15:45] <hggdh> Daviey: no hurry, I am also still finishing up my tasks on QA
[15:45] <hggdh> given time, I will add it in and throw into my PPA
[15:50] <cwillu_at_work> as, uses yum
[16:31] <czr_> hi there. I need to get a scanner working (please bear with me). proprietary driver requires usbfs (missing in lucid). I've never used kvm, so the question: can lucid + kvm be used to setup a (say) karmic in a VM so that a single USB device can be "exported" into the vm?
[16:31] <czr_> I could then run the scanner stuff within the VM
[16:32] <czr_> if it can be done, what would be the best way to do it? (using which tools).
[16:32] <Laverne> afaik that should be possible. easiest to test would be installing virtualbox
[16:32] <Laverne> have you checked out sane-project.org ?
[16:33] <czr_> Laverne, sure, I've even tried to hack at the proprietary driver backend shim, that's not the point now :-).
[16:33] <Laverne> hehe, just checking the obvious ;)
[16:33] <czr_> yeah, stay away from Canon P-150.
[16:34] <czr_> (used to use Hardy couple of months back and got the scanner working there after some trials and tribulations, but usbfs is missing in Lucid, so it's.. bad).
[16:34] <Laverne> any idea why it is not in lucid anymore?
[16:35] <czr_> some badness was introduced by a "fix" from suse in between 2.6.32 and .33 somewhere
[16:35] <czr_> so the whole driver was disabled in the lucid kernel
[16:35] <czr_> (plus the whole driver is obsolete and no one seems to care about this, it's weird).
[16:35] <czr_> a lot of proprietary crap that talks with usb devices uses usbfs.
[16:35] <Laverne> i guess people thought buying a new scanner is less of a hassle :P
[16:36] <czr_> yeah, if only it would be that easy.. (I did a fair amount of research before buying this one).
[16:36] <czr_> and it's not just scanners. but anyway, do a search against lucid in lp with usbfs as keyword and you'll see.
[16:37] <czr_> so, vbox then. hmm.
[16:37] <czr_> I've been putting off learning KVM so many years.. and I guess I'll put it off still some
[16:37] <czr_> been using vmware for ages (since workstation 1.x-series)
[16:38] <Laverne> ah, one thing you'll have to keep in mind, the -ose version does not have the usb support
[16:38] <czr_> so what exactly should I install then?
[16:38] <czr_> (also, older virtual boxes also use usbfs btw :-).
[16:39] <Laverne> I added "deb http://download.virtualbox.org/virtualbox/debian lucid non-free" to my sources.list but I havent tried using any usb stuff
[16:40] <czr_> ah, so not the vbox-ose package in the stock repos. I'll check it out, thanks
[16:40] <SpamapS> ttx: that branch built fine on maverick 3 weeks ago.
[16:41] <SpamapS> ttx: I'm repeating the steps I took for that build.. very confusing that the test you saw would be the one to break.
[16:42] <ttx> SpamapS: after a few hours of running, it failed :)
[16:43] <czr_> Laverne, ugh, I just realized. vbox is oracle software!
[16:43]  * czr_ feels so dirty now
[16:44] <fmontezuma> I need help to create a private cloud
[16:44] <fmontezuma> someone can help me?
[16:44] <SpamapS> ttx: I wonder if the apparmor changes that were introduced in ubuntu7 broke it somehow
[16:45] <ttx> SpamapS: given the test failure output I wouldn't be surprised
[16:45] <ttx> sounds like it tries to access /tmp, and now the apparmor profile prevents it to do that
[16:45] <ttx> no ?
[16:46] <SpamapS> ttx: I started it building here, have to take the baby to daycare.. you're about at eod yes?
[16:46] <SpamapS> ttx: oh I missed the full output failure
[16:46] <ttx> SpamapS: looks like this won't make it for Maverick, unless this is considered a security issue
[16:46] <SpamapS> mysqltest: Could not open connection 'default' after 500 attempts: 2002 Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/tmp/iVh6FPzXYn/mysqld.1.sock' (111)
[16:46] <ttx> SpamapS: yes I am
[16:46] <SpamapS> right
[16:47] <SpamapS> ttx: ok, I think we'll just have to live without that one for maverick. :(
[16:47] <SpamapS> I think the right answer is to fix the tests to not use /tmp but rather @tmpdir
[16:47] <ttx> SpamapS: yes
[16:47] <SpamapS> but... too late :p
[16:48] <SpamapS> ttx: actually...
[16:48] <SpamapS> ttx: the build should not be subject to the apparmor profile...
[16:49] <SpamapS> ttx: were you running the tests directly or as part of the build?
[16:49] <ttx> part of the build, sbuild chroot
[16:50] <SpamapS> ttx: because mysql-testsuite only depends on mysql-server-core
[16:51] <ttx> SpamapS: and.. ?
[16:52] <SpamapS> ttx: still should not have failed because the tests dont run /us/sbin
[16:53] <ttx> SpamapS: sounds like an interesting puzzle to solve, only takes 3 hours to reproduce :)
[16:53] <qwert> After setting up SMTP on a server, which email client is advisable?
[16:53] <SpamapS> ttx: only 1 on a c1.medium ;)
[16:54] <ttx> go go go cloud
[16:54] <SpamapS> ttx: thought about going with a large instance, but $1 to reproduce an issue just seems excessive. ;)
[16:54] <SpamapS> ttx: anyway, I'll let this build finish for my own curiosity. Thanks for trying.
[16:55]  * SpamapS disappears for a bit
[17:03] <qwert> I have a server setup using SMTP, does it allows me to have my own domain for my clients?
[17:03] <royalty> hey, I'm new to upstart. I've defined a custom job as found here: http://paste.ubuntu.com/494825/ I'd like to specify the user to run the program (styx.python ...) - is this possible with the exec stanza?
[17:08] <thafreak> royalty: I know you can use different usernames if the binary you're exec'ing supports changing uid/gid (I use upstart for spawning php in fastcgi mode)
[17:09] <thafreak> If the binary you're running doesn't explicitly do it, you could probably do it with su/sudo...I think I've seen upstart jobs do that...
[17:14] <royalty> thafreak: the binary I'm running is my own build of python - so effectively what you're seeing in that script is a custom python binary executing a python script I wrote
[17:14] <royalty> thafreak: doing it with sudo is a sensible idea, though I'll investigate seeing if I can natively do it through the python binary
[17:16] <thafreak> royalty: yes, you should be able to change uid in the python script since it's essentially getting run as root initially. sudo might be the easier option though.
[17:17] <royalty> thafreak: thanks
[17:18] <\sh> ivoks: ping pacemaker, upstart RAs? is it already working for lucid or do we have somehow a backport where we have a OCfied upstart RAs , especially for monitoring resources?
[17:30] <kaushal> hi
[17:30] <kaushal> can someone please guide me about my post on https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-server/2010-September/004642.html ?
[17:30] <ivoks> \sh: oh, i have it
[17:31] <\sh> ivoks: means? it's working in lucid or do I need somehow a backport of mavericks pacemaker pkgs?
[17:31] <ivoks> \sh: https://edge.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-ha-maintainers/+archive/ppa
[17:32] <\sh> ivoks: pacemaker <IP_ADDRESS>-2ubuntu2~ppa1 ?
[17:32] <ivoks> \sh: those are maverick backports
[17:33] <\sh> ivoks: cool...I'll try that out this evening and tomorrow morning :)
[17:33] <ivoks> \sh: example: crm configure primitive upstart:vsftpd .......
[17:34] <\sh> ivoks: nice :) is it already upstream or just ubuntu only? :)
[17:35] <kaushal> hi ivoks
[17:39] <ivoks> \sh: http://developerbugs.linux-foundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2406
[17:39] <\sh> ivoks: btw..you know that you are mentioned in Michael Schwartzkopffs book "Building Clusters with pacemaker" (don't know the real english title) 2nd Edition ;)
[17:39] <czr_> Laverne, thanks for the hint. the scanner works now.
[17:40] <ivoks> \sh: me?
[17:40] <ivoks> \sh: lol why me
[17:40] <\sh> ivoks: yes
[17:40] <\sh> ivoks: THe ubuntu package maintainer Ante Karamatic.... blabla :)
[17:40] <ivoks> hahaha
[17:41] <ivoks> \sh: thanks :)
[17:41] <kaushal> ivoks, I am installing ubuntu 8.04 and i have issue with network device
[17:41] <kaushal> it says No network interfaces were found.
[17:42] <kaushal> zcat initrd.gz | cpio -t | fgrep e1000.ko
[17:42] <mike3> kaushal: why 8.04 ?
[17:42] <kaushal> lib/modules/2.6.24-26-generic/kernel/drivers/net/e1000/e1000.ko
[17:42] <kaushal> mike3, I have dependencies about scribe application
[17:42] <ivoks> you need newer e1000
[17:43] <kaushal> ivoks, i did downloaded netboot.tar.gz
[17:43] <ivoks> there's a package called linux-backports-something
[17:43] <mike3> oh okay
[17:44] <kaushal> http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/hardy/main/installer-amd64/current/images/netboot/
[17:44] <ivoks> linux-backports-modules-hardy-server
[17:44] <ivoks> ^^ install that
[17:44] <kaushal> ivoks, I am using pxe image
[17:45] <kaushal> not sure how i can use it
[17:50] <kaushal> ivoks, apologies if I have asked you
[17:50] <kaushal> is there a way to port the newer e1000.ko in initrd.gz ?
[17:52] <ivoks> kaushal: install with CD and then manually install couple of packages
[17:54] <kaushal> ivoks, so install 8.04 CD and then give command apt-get install linux-backports-modules-hardy-server ?
[17:55] <SpamapS> ttx: rpl.rpl_innodb_bug28430                  [ pass ]  37108
[17:56] <SpamapS> ttx: I gave it some thought though, and I think its a good thing that we save this change for the very beginning of the natty cycle
[17:56] <SpamapS> ttx: give people the entire alpha/beta/etc. cycle to test their apps. I'm worried about seriously breaking LOAD DATA INFILE
[17:58] <zul> yeah....if you are talking about the /tmp change in mysql its waaaaay too late
[17:58] <ivoks> kaushal: you won't have network, so you'll have to download packages and install them manually on the server (usb stick or something)
[17:59] <SpamapS> zul: I think the change to the tmpdir to /var/tmp would have been fine, but the apparmor profile change is way more intrusive
[17:59] <kaushal> ivoks, which packages i need to download
[18:00] <ivoks> for a 32bit:
[18:00] <ivoks> /http://hr.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/l/linux-backports-modules-2.6.24/linux-backports-modules-2.6.24-28-server_2.6.24-28.37_i386.deb
[18:00] <ivoks> bah
[18:00] <ivoks> linux-backports-modules-2.6.24-28-server_2.6.24-28.37_i386.deb
[18:00] <ivoks> linux-backports-modules-hardy-server_<IP_ADDRESS>.30_i386.deb
[18:02] <ivoks> and linux-image-2.6.24-28-server_2.6.24-28.77_i386.deb
[18:15] <SpamapS>  /win 1
[18:15] <SpamapS> doohh
[18:16] <SpamapS> bug 639768
[18:16] <SpamapS> hallyn: you asked me about that one.. ?
[18:18] <SpamapS> ahh looks like mathias handled it. :p
[18:18] <pmatulis> will purging mysql-server delete data or only the binaries/libraries and the configuration file?
[18:20] <SpamapS> pmatulis: purges the data too
[18:20] <pmatulis> SpamapS: thx
[18:21] <SpamapS> pmatulis: you can always read the postrm script to see exactly what purge does
[18:21] <SpamapS> pmatulis: /var/lib/dpkg/info/$packagename.postrm
[18:21] <pmatulis> SpamapS: nice
[18:22] <SpamapS> looks like it does give you the option to say no to purging the databases
[18:24] <pmatulis> SpamapS: how do i "say"?
[18:24] <kaushal> ivoks, Thanks a lot
[18:24] <SpamapS>   db_get mysql-server-5.1/postrm_remove_databases || true
[18:24] <SpamapS>   if [ "$RET" = "true" ]; then
[18:24] <kaushal> appreciate it
[18:25] <SpamapS> pmatulis: of course, if you are ignoring high priority debconf questions, then the default is false, so you'll be safe. :)
[18:34] <SpamapS> wow.. mysql has pages of lintian warnings. :(
[18:38] <hallyn> SpamapS: yeah, the smb one got handled by those whose feet i'm not fit to wash, fortunately
[18:40] <fmontezuma> I need help to create a private cloud. Someone?
[18:43] <pmatulis> fmontezuma: maybe ask a more specific question
[18:43] <mike3> fmontezuma: what are your uses of a private cloud?
[18:58] <bobboau> I'm trying to install a few printers on a server, they're both network printers, one is a xerox Phaser 6280DN, the other is an HP Officejet Pro L7600, I have them installed on my local machine so I can look up whatever configurations my workstation uses.
[18:58] <fmontezuma> pmatulis: Im trying to setup an Eucalyptus cloud, but I'm always getting not enough resources message
[18:59] <fmontezuma> pmatulis: when I try to create an image instance
[19:00] <fmontezuma> pmatulis: I created 2 vm ubuntu-cloud installations... 1 for the cloud controller and 1 for the node controller
[19:00] <smoser> SpamapS, you should fix them all
[19:02] <fmontezuma> pmatulis: but when I run "euca-describe-availability-zones verbose" it always show me free/max as zero.
[19:04] <fmontezuma> pmatulis: I'm running it on my notebook so maybe it doesnt have enough resources. But its weird... not even for a small image?
[19:06] <pmatulis> fmontezuma: i don't know.  i haven't got onboard to cloud yet
[19:07] <pmatulis> fmontezuma: i know you can choose different sized images
[19:08] <fmontezuma> pmatulis: yes, but none of them are working for me. Maybe because I'm running it on a restricted hardware notebook as VMs. I don't know.
[19:13] <qwert> How to setup spam-assasin?
[19:15] <ScottK> qwert: The Ubuntu server guide (see information in /topic) covers that.
[19:16] <bobboau> ok, so, I have no idea where to even start getting these printers installed, I need to have printers available to my server so it will be able to print the results of some cron scripts, the process of installing printers is all automated in the desktop version and I've never had to mess with it on a server before, I've installed cups and lpr, I installed webmin and added a printer via that interface but it doesn't work, I don't know how to find or i
[19:16] <bobboau> nstall the drivers that the automated printer configuration uses in the desktop environment, can anybody help me?
[19:17] <qwert> ScottK: No, it doesn'y
[19:17] <ScottK> qwert: What Ubuntu release are you using?
[19:18] <qwert> ScottK: Same as what the intends to instruct on
[19:18] <qwert> ScottK: *guide
[19:18] <ScottK> qwert: We have versions of the guide for every release.  Which one are you using?
[19:19] <qwert> ScottK: Ubuntu 10.04
[19:19] <ScottK> OK
[19:19] <ScottK> qwert: https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/serverguide/C/mail-filtering.html
[19:20] <qwert> ScottK: Thanks :)
[19:21] <qwert> ScottK: Sorry oversight
[19:21] <pushpop> whats the default admin password for ubuntu cloud?
[19:22] <qwert> ScottK: Is ClamAV required for virus protection?
[19:29] <qman__> bobboau, the only way I've gotten it to work is with smbclient
[19:30] <qman__> if you have a samba printer shared, smbclient lets you pass the file to print, user and password, server and printer in a script
[19:30] <bobboau> there are not connected to a computer, and I'm not sure if they support samba directly.
[19:31] <pmatulis> anyone know about mysqld constantly restarting after upgrade from 9.10 to 10.04?  some kind of data corruption?
[19:31] <panfist> i have two version of a package, one in /usr/lib/pymodules/python2.6/ and the other in /usr/local/lib/python2.6/dist-packages/ ... is it ok to just rm the first one?
[19:32] <qwert> Can a ubuntu server have windows(desktop) as client
[19:32] <qman__> panfist, no, that will break whatever package that file is a part of
[19:32] <bobboau> this seems like the sort of thing that would come up enough that there would be a common answer...
[19:33] <panfist> mmm i'm sorry qman__ i think i might be using the incorrect terminology
[19:33] <qman__> bobboau, put simply, most people don't print anymore, especially not from servers
[19:33] <qman__> CUPS can do it, but I don't know how
[19:33] <panfist> i think one is a deb, and that lives in dist-packages/ and the one in pymodules (I think) was manually installed
[19:34] <qman__> panfist, not likely, debs should not be installing to /usr/local
[19:34] <qwert> qman_: Can a ubuntu server have windows(desktop) as client
[19:34] <bobboau> well, yeah, but the desktop can do it so easily, why is it so dificult to get it to work on a server.
[19:34] <pmatulis> qwert: what do you mean by client?
[19:35] <qwert> bobboau:pmatulis: I mean Ubuntu-server will be the main server. The other computers which are connected to it(clients), can they be Windows?
[19:36] <qman__> qwert, that depends on what exactly you mean by client, what software you intend to run, what purpose your server is serving
[19:36] <RoyK> qwert: just use samba if the thing is about file storage
[19:36] <bobboau> connected how? as in file sharing? authorization? web?
[19:37] <qwert> qman_: bobboau: web
[19:37] <qman__> then yes, web is web
[19:37] <bobboau> then yeah, anything with a web browser will work

[19:38] <qwert> qman_: bobboau: Well i will setup Ubuntu server to have SMTP, SqiurrelMail, SquidProxy..
[19:39] <ttx> SpamapS: ack
[19:39] <qwert> qman_: bobboau: and post fix imap etc... Still?
[19:39] <bobboau> yeah, that has nothing to do with the OS
[19:40] <bobboau> it's all the client software you use, and windows has clients for all of that AFAIK
[19:40] <qwert> bobboau: Yeah.. i mean i was wondering as in the ubuntu would be only a medium for the client to work. But anyways had doubt if it can affect the server
[19:40] <qman__> those are all universally supported
[19:40] <bobboau> for example you can use outlook or thunderbird for IMAP and SMTP
[19:40] <qwert> AFAIK?
[19:40] <bobboau> as far as I know
[19:40] <qman__> the problem arises with stuff like active directory and file sharing
[19:40] <qwert> Oh:)
[19:41] <qman__> where windows does its own thing
[19:41] <qman__> and ubuntu may or may not be able to
[19:41] <qwert> qman_: Like what?
[19:41] <qman__> samba can provide simple windows file sharing, and NT-style domains, but not active directory
[19:42] <qman__> there currently is no way to have a linux active directory replacement
[19:42] <bobboau> but file sharing has always worked great between windows and linux, in fact linux seems to work better than windows machines when it comes to file sharing
[19:42] <qman__> samba 4 is going to change that, if/when it finally releases
[19:42] <qman__> but as of now, it's impossible
[19:42] <qwert> qman_: Well as i understand it would be trouble or file sharing
[19:43] <qman__> but normal internet-based services are universally supported, and the OS you use doesn't matter
[19:43] <bobboau> god, your names are too similar looking
[19:44] <SpamapS> ttx: No worries, I think it would be foolish to push that sort of behavior change into a release any time after alpha3 ... people will need time to adapt their apps that use LOAD DATA INFILE and SELECT INTO OUTFILE ...
[19:45] <qwert> qman_: Thanks
[19:45] <qwert> bobboau: Yeah :)
[19:46] <Aqwert> bobboau: qman_: I had another issue.. with mails
[19:46] <mconigliaro> has anyone else have trouble with some apps not being able to resolve hostnames after upgrading from ubuntu karmic to lucid?
[19:46] <mconigliaro> i can resolve manually, but apps like apache, jetty, etc cant resolve anything
[19:48] <Aqwert> bobboau: qman_: The clients reaching client (OS) from web, first reaches the host then to the recipient..I am not able to understand why? Same is the issue when any mail is sent from client to other, it first reaches the host then the actual recipient
[19:49] <Aqwert> bobboau: qman_: The *mails* reaching client (OS)...
[19:50] <Aqwert> bobboau: qman_: Any idea as to why?
[19:50] <Aqwert> !howdy| StrangeCharm
[19:51] <\sh> ivoks: you don't support hb_gui somehow? if so, in which package is it? ;)
[19:52] <ivoks> none :)
[19:54] <ivoks> \sh: none at the moment... once i find some time, i'll work on those
[19:54] <qman__> Aqwert, the clients don't know where the final destination is, they only know where their local SMTP relay is
[19:54] <qman__> the server then reads the mail, and delivers any mail it knows where to deliver, and if not, it passes it on to another SMTP server on the internet
[19:57] <Aqwert> qman_: But the copy of mail reaches Host as well
[20:00] <Pici> Which computer are you designating the 'host'?
[20:00] <Aqwert> qman_: Every mail is first reaching the host and then reaching the destination...
[20:01] <qman__> what host?
[20:02] <mconigliaro> does anyone know why i would be able to resolve hostnames with dig, but my applications cant resolve at all?
[20:02] <Aqwert> qman_: The Hostname , domain thing which comes during installation
[20:03] <qman__> the mail server? of course it reaches it
[20:03] <Aqwert> qman_: My servers Host is in UK.. and the server in Hungary
[20:04] <Aqwert> qman_: No not that
[20:05] <qman__> ok, I see what you have
[20:05] <Aqwert> qman_: While setting up server on Ubuntu-server, one gets the option to feed in hostname and domain-name. right?
[20:05] <qman__> your mail reaches your local mail server, which then decides if it needs to be delivered locally
[20:05] <qman__> if it does, it delivers it, if not, it forwards it to the next mail server in line, which is this server in the UK
[20:05] <qman__> because that is how it knows to get mail to the internet
[20:06] <Aqwert> Yes agreed, but in my case, every mail is first sent to Host..
[20:06] <qman__> is that where your clients are configured to send mail to?
[20:06] <Aqwert> qman_: Reaching host should be the last option
[20:07] <Aqwert> qman_: By clients, i mean computers. I am using Ubuntu server in Hungary with clients (comp) attached to it  in Hungary alone
[20:07] <qman__> yes
[20:08] <qman__> if the mail clients are configured to send mail there, instead of your local server, that will happen
[20:08] <Aqwert> qman_: Mail clients are configured,, as in?
[20:08] <qman__> evolution, thunderbird, outlook, mailx
[20:09] <Aqwert> qman_: Yes. i am using SquirrelMail
[20:09] <Aqwert> qman_: There is nothing like that configures
[20:09] <Aqwert> d
[20:12] <qman__> then it would have to be either a problem with SMTP configuration in squirrelmail, or postfix is badly misconfigured and doing something wrong
[20:13] <qman__> normally, if postfix gets a mail sent to an address on the local server, it just delivers it, it doesn't forward it to the relay
[20:14] <qman__> so either something is broken with that, or squirrelmail isn't sending mail via the local postfix, it's sending it straight to the relay in the UK
[20:17] <Aqwert> qman_: By realy you mean the Host?
[20:17] <Aqwert> qman_: *relay
[20:59] <flodin> hi, i'm trying to use an sqlite table for virtual_mailbox_maps in postfix, and postfix generates this log message: postfix/smtpd[1019]: fatal: dict_open: unsupported dictionary type: sqlite:  Is the postfix-sqlite package installed?
[20:59] <flodin> but there is apparently no such package in the ubuntu repository
[21:00] <flodin> any suggestions?
[21:01] <qman__> personally, I wouldn't use sqlite, as in my experience, flatfile is faster
[21:01] <qman__> but as for the missing package, do you have universe and multiverse enabled?
[21:03] <flodin> i haven't specifically enabled it no, isn't it enabled by default?
[21:03] <qman__> good question, it wasn't a while ago, but I don't know if it is now
[21:03] <guntbert> flodin: no you have to do it
[21:03] <guntbert> !repos | flodin
[21:05] <flodin> they are enabled in my sources.list
[21:06] <flodin> do you know if flatfile will work if i need to look up accounts both with dovecot and postfix?
[21:06] <flodin> i'm trying to share the same table between them so i don't have to do the work twice
[21:06] <qman__> I don't, but if you need a database, I'd suggest postgres or mysql over sqlite
[21:07] <flodin> i don't need a database, i will only have ~10 email accounts
[21:08] <flodin> i picked sqlite because it seemed most lightweight
[21:08] <qman__> IME, it really isn't
[21:08] <qman__> I know that's what it's supposed to be, but every time I've used it it ends up being very heavy and slow
[21:08] <qman__> much slower than any other option
[21:09] <guntbert> flodin: could it be that the error message read "Is the postfix-sqlite patch installed?" (instead of -package)
[21:09] <flodin> i copy-pasted it verbatim
[21:09] <qman__> the ubuntu packages search indicates that that package has never existed in any version of ubuntu
[21:12] <guntbert> and on http://www.treibsand.com/postfix-sqlite/ they talk about a ...-patch
[21:18] <flodin> well the repositories has postfix-ldap, postfix-mysql, postfix-pgsql packages so a postfix-sqlite analog would make sense
[21:19] <flodin> but i guess it doesn't matter, either way it doesn't exist and I can't install a patch without building from source
[21:20] <qman__> for only 10 accounts I'd look into whether dovecot can use the flatfile
[21:20] <qman__> but mysql and pgsql are both good high performance options
[21:20] <flodin> is that the name of the table type? Cause I don't see it listed on http://www.postfix.org/DATABASE_README.html
[21:21] <qman__> flatfile would be a postifx list
[21:21] <qman__> a non-database configuration
[21:22] <flodin> ok
[21:22] <flodin> thanks for your time... i'll try pgsql first just so to see if i can get something up and running
[21:23] <geoffmcc> I was unable to install libssh2 using pecl, kept giving me make error. was able to get working using packages libssh2-1-dev
[21:23] <geoffmcc> and libssh2-php
[21:24] <geoffmcc> sorry for the break - i was pasting ... anyways should i be concerned using package install of this
[21:36] <qman__> compiling from source should be a last resort
[21:36] <qman__> the packages are supported and updated
[21:37] <geoffmcc> thank u
[22:44] <hggdh> smoser: I got a failure when running euca-bundle-image on today's UEC kernel 20100916.1, but 20100916 was OK
[22:46] <hggdh> smoser: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/494964/
[23:27] <guhcampos> I have a ubuntu-server installation on software raid stuck on 33% of the partition proccess. Is that normal (I mean, it's been 20 minutes, should I wait more?)
[23:48] <guhcampos> anybody?
[23:48] <guhcampos>  I have a ubuntu-server installation on software raid stuck on 33% of the partition proccess. Is that normal (I mean, it's been 20 minutes, should I wait more?)


[20:07] <pabelanger> Is this channel active any more?
[20:07] <wxl> people are still here if that's what you mean
[20:12] <pabelanger> yes, but I doesn't see an active channel for get support on fixing existing bugs
[20:13] <wxl> what's the question?
[20:13] <pabelanger> it is in scroll back from yesterday, I was avoiding spamming
[20:13] <pabelanger> greetings, I was looking for some help to get https://bugs.launchpad.net/mailman/+bug/1251495 for trusty-updates. It fixes a serious properly that leaves mailman broken when upgrading from precise
[20:15] <wxl> so it needs to go through the backport process
[20:15] <wxl> brb
[21:38] <wxl> pabelanger: sorry, SRU process: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SRU


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[03:26] <cbq> This an ok place for ubuntu questions?
[03:39] <pleia2> cbq: you'll have better luck in the support channel #ubuntu we develop ubuntu classes here
[03:42] <cbq> ok thank you
[06:11] <doctormo> pleia2: About your blog entry about the FREE GEEK PENN group. Perhaps I could help since MA already does what your proposing.
[06:23] <doctormo> pleia2: Heh, out of curiosity I did a google maps search to see how long it would take to get to where FREE GEEK is from Boston, 12 days... or there abouts, by foot. 355 miles. ha
[16:35] <pleia2> doctormo: yeah, we're looking to use some of the beginner courses developed with this project (or to be developed) to move forward on our stuff over at freegeek
[16:36] <doctormo> pleia2: I figured that might be the case, I was just interested since we've been doing that sort of thing for over a year and a half. Educating the public and so on.
[16:38] <pleia2> doctormo: cool, I'll have to pick your brain about it some :)
[16:38] <pleia2> we did it previously with a project over at Mount Airy Learning Tree, but that wasn't as successful as we would have liked linux-wise
[16:39] <doctormo> pleia2: We don't mention the L word
[16:40] <pleia2> I know, we didn't, it was all about Ubuntu
[16:41] <doctormo> pleia2: Odd, although not unheard of to have falling outs.
[16:42] <doctormo> pleia2: Most NGOs want the technical advantages and skill we can offer, but soundly reject anything other than windows.
[16:42] <pleia2> it wasn't really a falling out, I think our volunteers just got bored of explaining super basic stuff
[16:42] <pleia2> having course material would help, we winged it a lot
[16:43] <doctormo> So for instance, the educational sessions on Tuesdays, we also do free support and people bring in windows computers and we have to explain that we will not help people fix those computers unless they _want_ to upgrade their machines to Ubuntu.
[16:44]  * pleia2 nods
[16:45] <doctormo> pleia2: Although we're also doing refirbished machines all with Ubuntu on them. Mainly because of cost, but also because people who go home with ubuntu never seem to come back with any problems.
[16:51] <pleia2> somewhat unfortunately for us, freegeek is a non-profit that gets windows licenses for $5
[16:52] <pleia2> for them the trouble they had with Ubuntu was more expensive than the $5 licenses
[17:09] <doctormo> pleia2: There is a center here that does that
[17:10] <doctormo> pleia2: But Ubuntu i about Control. We can do what We want to do. and those windows dudes are still installing anti-virus and personal attention to every single target deployed. Which is a waste of time.
[17:11] <doctormo> But most of the problems are educational with the people doing the deployment
[17:11] <doctormo> We've had the greatest sucess in explaining foss, what it means and why it's important
[17:11] <pleia2> yeah, I think re-engineering the approach is what's going to be important
[17:12] <pleia2> this organization didn't really have any linux experts, they just tossed ubuntu on the refurbed machines and sent people on their way
[17:18] <doctormo> pleia2: Which can be a mistake, if you don't install restricted-extras and medibuntu, then there can be a perception that it can't do the majority of things.
[17:19] <pleia2> doctormo: the one guy who used linux at all was deploying with automatix :(
[17:20] <pleia2> we were like "EEEK NO! restricted-extras and medibuntu!"
[17:20] <pleia2> except we tried to say it nicely (not sure if we succeeded, hehe)
[17:31] <doctormo> pleia2: Yea, it took me some time to get the language right. although it's still important to talk about freedom, because then people feel connected to it as more than just technoledgy that can be replaced by windows later.


[01:48] <Strav> he. Anyone else not having kmail's icon displayed in systray on kubuntu 15.10?
[07:17] <lordievader> Good morning.
[09:05] <[dz]> :3
[09:06] <[dz]> erwait
[09:06] <[dz]> this isn't the release party channel
[09:08] <ikonia> there is a release party channel
[09:08] <ikonia> (not here)
[09:08] <ikonia> #ubuntu-release-party
[09:08] <ikonia> it seems to have lost the buzz it once had
[09:13] <mcphail> ikonia: in some ways, that is reassuring :)
[09:22] <ikonia> I have zero complaint
[09:44] <sacarde> when RC come out?
[10:25] <lordievader> sacarde: It is already available, see http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com
[11:04] <BluesKaj> 'Morning all
[20:51] <wileee> Hi, running gnome-shell 3.16, 15.10 release of shell, not getting windows opening in previous size is really my only issue.


[21:45] <pleia2> going through links now, then i'll send off the "need summaries" email
[21:50] <pleia2> ok, email sent :)
[21:50] <pleia2> summary time! http://bit.ly/vDkJyf
[21:54] <pleia2> bah, my fever is back, time for me to get back to bed