[00:00] <ActionParsnip> arthus: gksudo gedit /etc/samba/smb.conf
[00:00] <arthus> ActionParsnip: yea, I've gotten that far
[00:00] <NeoDragon> ok I will use the alternate cd, but should I go with 8.04 or 8.10
[00:00] <nbeebo> !cssm
[00:00] <arthus> but I don't know the config setting
[00:00] <nbeebo> !compiz
[00:00] <LjL> newbie12: your question makes no sense. try to give it a subject, for a start, and put it in one line.
[00:00] <rww> !ccsm > nbeebo
[00:00] <LjL> john__: A drive cable...?
[00:01] <trece8> LjL, A: drive cable, floppy disks i assume
[00:01] <rww> john__: twisted ribbon cable?
[00:01] <redvamp128> nbeebo:  do you have firefox (copy this link and it should auto install it) apt://compizconfig-settings-manager
[00:01] <ActionParsnip> arthus: the servername should be the name in /etc/hostname
[00:01] <LjL> rww: but it's not twisted is it
[00:01] <nbeebo> redvamp128,  oh ok, cool, thanks!
[00:01] <redvamp128> nbeebo:  or you can type sudo apt-get install compizconfig-settings-manager
[00:01] <john__> LjL you know like the ide cable,  would it be the same for the Adrive
[00:01] <rww> LjL: the one for floppy drives is, I think.
[00:01] <LjL> john__: it's called a floppy drive.
[00:01] <usser> ActionParsnip, if he doesnt have dns server setup it aint going to help
[00:01] <iniciante> ubuntu-br
[00:01] <LjL> john__: and no, it's not the same cable
[00:01] <DGMurdockIII> can anyone help me fix my screen ressalotun when i cant get to the app to do it i want to have it auto detect this is on 8.10
[00:02] <ActionParsnip> usser: was getting to that ;)
[00:02] <trece8> john_ : floppy cable
[00:02] <NeoDragon> ok I will use the alternate cd, but should I go with 8.04 or 8.10?
[00:02] <redvamp128> nbeebo:  it can set things for compiz that you would not be able to do without a lot of updating config files... (makes it easier)
[00:02] <LjL> rww: nope, at least not the ones for the floppy drives i always had. it's just like an IDE cable, just with fewer pins
[00:02] <arthus> the hostname isn't listed anywhere in the samba config
[00:02] <usser> ActionParsnip, i find it easier to just install winbind and use wins for name resolution
[00:02] <trece8> i have ubuntu 8.04 : How do you undo the last software update?
[00:02] <iniciante> ajuda em portugues
[00:02] <arthus> but it's correctly set in /etc/hostname
[00:02] <LjL> !br | iniciante
[00:02] <ianm_> how should I be using a wacom pad with this xorg.conf?  http://pastebin.com/m152851a
[00:02] <nbeebo> redvamp128, oh ok i see, i also tried download simple-ccsm, maybe its even easier to do what i want with it... anyway, thanks ill be mixing with it now!...
[00:02] <ActionParsnip> arthus: you could add an entry to the system connecting to the samba to resolve the name to an ip using hosts file
[00:02] <rww> LjL: Heh. Pretty sure mine has a twist in it. Looking online, it seems like there should be one on wires 10-16.
[00:03] <john__> LjL so it is a twisted ribbon cable
[00:03] <bertolo> anyone know how can i edit xorg conf safely ?
[00:03] <DGMurdockIII> can anyone help me fix my screen ressalotun when i cant get to the app to do it i want to have it auto detect this is on 8.10?
[00:03] <arthus> ActionParsnip: hmm, ok
[00:03] <arthus> I know how to do that
[00:03] <usser> arthus, try using wins
[00:03] <redvamp128> NeoDragon:  I tried booting the dell laptop with the live cd and it would start but then blank screen-- once I used the alternate cd and used the cli (to install) it then worked perfect (though you have to be connected to the web) because the alternate grabs the latest from the web.
[00:03] <usser> arthus, sudo apt-get install winbind
[00:03] <nightrid3r> arthus global section , netbios name
[00:03] <LjL> rww: ah yes, that's true. i was thinking "twisted pair", which it clearly is not
[00:03] <usser> arthus, edit /etc/nsswitch.conf
[00:03]  * rww nods
[00:03] <ActionParsnip> arthus: thus making the name resolve to the ip on the local machine
[00:04] <redvamp128> NeoDragon:  that and I had to hit the f12 key to get to the alternate boot functions
[00:04] <arthus> ActionParsnip: that seems easiest
[00:04] <ActionParsnip> arthus: you could even have it as a different name in the hosts file if you so wish
[00:04] <trece8> john_ : just ask for floppy disk cable... i assume it's easier
[00:04] <usser> arthus, modify hosts and networks lines so they read something like this hosts:          files wins mdns4_minimal dns mdns4
[00:04] <LjL> john__: if you're looking to buy one - just ask for a 34-pin floppy cable.
[00:04] <usser> arthus, just add wins basically after files
[00:04] <arthus> usser: ok, got it
[00:04] <jacekowski> john__: or buy usb floppy
[00:05] <NeoDragon> Ok great thanks
[00:05] <usser> arthus, after its done sudo /etc/init.d/winbind restart
[00:05] <LjL> john__: it may well be a "twisted ribbon cable", but if you ask for that... you might be given a thousand different things
[00:05] <usser> arthus, now try pinging your machine from a windows machine by name
[00:05] <arthus> sweet! it gets the right IP
[00:05] <usser> arthus, cool
[00:05] <arthus> ...and it connects :)
[00:05] <ActionParsnip> arthus: sweet
[00:05] <arthus> thanks!
[00:05] <usser> arthus, no problem
[00:05]  * john__ I know this was a strange question but I was working on some material to teach a class on the ComTIA a free class on the Essential
[00:06] <ActionParsnip> arthus: hosts can be fun to prank your mates
[00:06] <arthus> ActionParsnip: haha, ya
[00:06] <LjL> john__: i just don't think it has a *name* as such.
[00:06] <ActionParsnip> arthus: go into their hosts and add a porn site ip for www.google.com ;)
[00:06] <grobda24> Hello. I'm trying to get pulseaudio working. Should default audio device be set to "alsamixer:hw:0" in gconf ?
[00:06] <LjL> john__: it's a PC floppy cable. it probably was (almost) the same cable on the original IBM PC.
[00:07] <ActionParsnip> arthus: it can also be used for good, like resolvin known bad names to <IP_ADDRESS> so if anything trys to calll home or access bad sites it resolves to local host and fails
[00:07] <john__> ok I was hoping it was a twisted cable,  Thank you guys  and you to LjL
[00:07] <joanki123> anyone have problems with usb devices?
[00:08] <trece8> all kinds of usb devices?
[00:09] <ASUSBlue> burn option in compiz does not work all others work
[00:09] <ASUSBlue> any suggestions
[00:10] <DGMurdockIII> can anyone help me fix my screen ressalotun when i cant get to the app to do it i want to have it auto detect this is on 8.10??
[00:11] <ActionParsnip> ASUSBlue: headinto #compi
[00:11] <ActionParsnip> DGMurdockIII: what video card? run lspci | grep -i vga
[00:11] <sarae> hi
[00:12] <sarae> i need to mount a 2gb sd card it wont allo me
[00:12] <ASUSBlue> what is compi
[00:12] <Guest13541> i want to make it so that scrolling will not change workspaces, any suggestions?
[00:12] <sarae> says i gotta be a super user to mount an sd card
[00:12] <ActionParsnip> compiz... ithought you'd work it out so didnt correct myself
[00:13] <ActionParsnip> sarae: use the same command, just start it with the word 'sudo'
[00:13] <ActionParsnip> sarae: only root can mount anything at all, as well as umount
[00:15] <sarae> ActionParsnip: i know i read
[00:15] <bertolo> someon knows how to change xorg.conf
[00:15] <bertolo>  ?
[00:16] <rww> bertolo: "sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf" or "gksudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf"
[00:16] <ActionParsnip> sarae: all better now?
[00:17] <bertolo> rww: lol........
[00:17] <sarae> http://pastebin.com/m2153dafe
[00:17] <sarae> no ActionParsnip
[00:17] <sarae> ActionParsnip: it simply will not allow me to mount it
[00:17] <_VIM_> rww: wha? no vi? nano is just as hard as vi is. :)
[00:17] <sarae> the sd card is formated automatically by my kodak camera
[00:18] <sarae> ActionParsnip:
[00:18] <ActionParsnip> sarae: sudo mkdir /media/2gb; sudo mount /dev/sdb1 /media/2gb -o uid=1000
[00:18] <yeti1> how do i turn off the scroll wheel changing workspaces?
[00:18] <ActionParsnip> _VIM_: hard is apersonal gauge
[00:19] <_VIM_> ActionParsnip: I suppose.
[00:19] <sarae> ActionParsnip: i'll try rebooting with the volume in
[00:19] <ActionParsnip> sarae: its formatted fat16 so is supported by the kernel itself
[00:20] <TecR0c> when i write a program in c then i compile it with gcc i also get the file a.out which i then run ./a.out what am i doing wrong?
[00:20] <ActionParsnip> TecR0c: sounds perfect to me
[00:21] <TecR0c> ActionParsnip shouldn't i get the programs name not a.out ?
[00:21] <_VIM_> to the average noob they cannot save a nano file or a vi file, both require one command to save, so both are equally difficult..
[00:21] <ActionParsnip> TecR0c: make sure its marked as executable which chmod +x ./a.oth
[00:21] <maco> TecR0c: no. you didnt tell it to name it anything different.
[00:21] <dtchen_> TecR0c: you need to pass -o foo
[00:21] <maco> ActionParsnip: a.out gets automatically marked executable
[00:21] <ActionParsnip> TecR0c: nope, a.out is normal. youu can specify the name at compile time if you wish
[00:22] <ActionParsnip> TecR0c: gcc hello.cpp -o hello
[00:22] <Mooqy> should i dl the 64 bit version or the 32
[00:22] <TecR0c> how do i specify a name at output
[00:22] <TecR0c> ohh
[00:22] <TecR0c> ok, let me try that :)
[00:22] <Mooqy> i have a 64 bit processor but arent there problems with it
[00:23] <rww> Mooqy: Not really, these days. It works fine for me.
[00:23] <Mooqy> k
[00:23] <ActionParsnip> Mooqy: none at all, java can be a pain otherwise its fine
[00:23] <jonaskoelker> Hi all.  Whenever I play sound in mplayer (with ao=alsa), I get Assertion `pcm->stream' failed.  How do I troubleshoot and fix this, so that I can play sound with mplayer?
[00:23] <yeti1> Anybody know how to turn off the scroll wheel changing workspaces????
[00:23] <jonaskoelker> it seems that all alsa programs have this problem; certainly brainworkshop does too
[00:23] <maco> ActionParsnip: when is java *not* a pain? /me goes back to trying to make java GUIs
[00:23] <Daft_Punk> how can i find out what port 80 is being used by? i enter my IP into a web browser and some sort of http server comes up but i dont know whats using it!!!
[00:23] <ActionParsnip> maco: true. i hate java
[00:23] <rww> Mooqy: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=765428 has a pretty good pros/cons list
[00:23] <maco> Daft_Punk: did you install apache, maybe?
[00:23] <ActionParsnip> Daft_Punk: netstat -a | grep 80
[00:24] <Guest1201> ?
[00:24] <redvamp128> Mooqy:  you may want to use the #ubuntu-offtopic room -- but there are not as many problems with 64bit other than most things are just coded for 32bit but drivers are getting better.
[00:24] <Guest1201> ello?
[00:24] <Daft_Punk> maco, no
[00:24] <Daft_Punk> ActionParsnip, thx ill try that
[00:24] <rww> !hi | mezy
[00:24] <redvamp128> Mooqy:  that and 64bit with the right libraries can run all 32bit programs
[00:24] <maco> Mooqy: 64bit's not a problem for much. just about everyting is compiled for both. running 32bit windows apps in wine might be difficult though
[00:24] <mezy> can somone help me?
[00:24] <phloat> I'm having a lot of problems with getting intrepid to see my wired network and could use some help. I'm also trying to reinstall it and I just keep getting the message "Buffer I/O error on device sr0" among other things scrolling across the screen. It won't even boot from the CD
[00:24] <ActionParsnip> Daft_Punk: netstat -a will show all stuffs running
[00:24] <maco> !ask | mezy
[00:24] <C-S-B> what kind of usb devices?
[00:24] <C-S-B> storage? Bluetooth?
[00:25] <maco> phloat: bad CD
[00:25] <Daft_Punk> ActionParsnip, nothing seems to be on port 80 specifically, i have this HTTP file server i want to run on port 80 but it says something else is using it so idk
[00:25] <mezy> cool
[00:25] <maco> phloat: /dev/sr0 is the cd drive
[00:25] <maco> phloat: at least, thats what it sounds like is wrong...
[00:25] <yeti1> anybody know how to change the scroll wheel changing desktops?
[00:26] <aperson> does anyone have a preferred cd rip/encode (to mp3) solution?  grip/soundjuicer just isn't doing it for me
[00:26] <ActionParsnip> Daft_Punk: sudo netstat -lpn | grep :80
[00:26] <yeti1> aperson: perhaps grip
[00:26] <ActionParsnip> !ripping
[00:26] <yeti1> aperson: i'm not sure if it will rip to mp3 but take a look
[00:26] <aperson> yetil: grip doesn't work, it endlessly rips cds
[00:26] <SirBe> WHAT
[00:27] <SirBe> how
[00:27] <SirBe> why
[00:27] <maco> yeti1: note the "grip just isnt doing it for me" :P
[00:27] <SirBe> am i here
[00:27] <SirBe> :(
[00:27] <ActionParsnip> SirBe: yes
[00:27] <maco> SirBe: no. you're on the moon.
[00:27] <SirBe> oh
[00:27]  * maco nods emphatically
[00:27] <SirBe> *why am i here
[00:27] <yeti1> aperson: oops, missed that line... and i have had limited experience with it, my bad :)
[00:27] <SirBe> ;)
[00:27] <Daft_Punk> tcp        0      0 <IP_ADDRESS>:8080            <IP_ADDRESS>:*               LISTEN      13298/wineserver                  tcp6       0      0 :::8008                 :::*                    LISTEN      7508/java
[00:27] <aperson> ActionParsnip, I'd use sound-juicer if it worked and if I would be more 'automatic'
[00:27] <rww> SirBe: #ubuntu on irc.freenode.net is the default channel and server for several IRC clients distributed with Ubuntu. To change channel, type /join #channelname. To change server, type /server address.of.server
[00:27] <phloat> Thanks maco.
[00:27] <aperson> yetil: no worries
[00:28] <ActionParsnip> aperson: you could do it at command line
[00:28] <mezy> its a weird problem. i installed ubuntu ibex on a micro sd, and can access it via usb. my problem is that i cant update linux-image-generic kernel, or whatever it is, on this installation. im wondering if it is because i have it on a micro sd, usb, or something that i may have down inadvertently
[00:28] <mezy> hope someone can help
[00:28] <yeti1> aperson: i'm getting no luck from anyone else... do u know how to change the scroll wheel so that it doesn't change desktops?
[00:28] <phloat> Maco, do you know anything about intrepid not seeing a wired connection?
[00:28] <ActionParsnip> !info abcde | aperson
[00:28] <ActionParsnip> aperson: http://www.newlinuxuser.com/abcde-your-command-line-cd-ripper/
[00:29] <Daft_Punk> ActionParsnip, nothing is running on port 80, its either 8080 or 8008, but my http server says i cant use port 80, something else is using it, so it defaults to 8080 which is http alt
[00:29] <aperson> I looked into abcde, I couldn't find any way to change encoding options
[00:30] <aperson> yetil: do you have ccsm?
[00:30] <ActionParsnip> aperson: maybe in /etc/abcde.conf
[00:30] <ActionParsnip> aperson: man abcde
[00:30] <Caesi> Hi all, how can I deactivate OSS and activate ALSA again? it doesn't work under System -> Preferences -> Sound
[00:30] <joshjtl> hi, how can i uninstall something like gtk2-engine-murrine without having to remove packages: ubuntu-artwork, ubuntu-desktop ... ?
[00:31] <rww> !ubuntu-desktop | joshjtl: you can't, but it's safe to remove ubuntu-desktop and ubuntu-artwork
[00:31] <yeti1> aperson: no
[00:31] <ActionParsnip> joshjtl: sure, just apt-get remove it and dont run apt-get autoremove if they are the dependancies of that app
[00:31] <aperson> yetil: I'm pretty positive you can change it there
[00:32] <maco> phloat: nope. i pretty much skipped intrepid
[00:32] <joshjtl> rww: why does it recommend to reinstall when upgrading? (does it mean updating or upgrading...)
[00:33] <rww> joshjtl: It means upgrading to a new version of Ubuntu (i.e., from Intrepid to Jaunty). It recommends that because if new packages are added to the default Ubuntu distribution, you won't get them installed during upgrade if ubuntu-desktop isn't installed.
[00:33] <joshjtl> ah ok
[00:33] <joshjtl> thanks
[00:33] <Juninho> ajuda em portugues
[00:33] <LjL> !pt | Juninho
[00:34] <TruthTac1> how do i make it so music wont play when i hover over an mp3 with the mouse
[00:34] <IdentifyTarget> shouldn't this work in command line?   ls / | more
[00:34] <IdentifyTarget> I'm trying to send the output from ls / to more
[00:34] <yeti1> aperson: what is this ccsm? also, my nick is yeti(one)
[00:34] <usser> IdentifyTarget, yes it should
[00:34] <ActionParsnip> TruthTac1: disable audio preview / audio thumbnails
[00:34] <rww> !ccsm | yeti1
[00:35] <aperson> thanks rww
[00:35] <IdentifyTarget> usser: it doesn't, instead like 500 lines goto my screen and I can't read what's on the top
[00:35] <ActionParsnip> TruthTac1: http://linux.derkeiler.com/Mailing-Lists/Debian/2008-12/msg00402.html
[00:35] <TruthTac1> thanks
[00:35] <aperson> yeti1: under ccsm: Viewport Switcher -> Actions" -> Desktop-based Viewport Switching
[00:35] <rww> IdentifyTarget: Try "less" instead of "more". It tends to work a little better.
[00:36] <ActionParsnip> IdentifyTarget: are you sure you dont mean less?
[00:37] <mezy> is it a good idea to have ubuntu installed on a usb?
[00:37] <grobda24> I have pulseaudio setup. Amarok can see pulseaudio. The Amarok stream can be seen by pulseaudio. The system can see the sound card. Modules are loaded.  It's saying "Not configured to listen on any interfaces!".. /etc/default/dhcp3-server has the following line though: INTERFACES="eth0"
[00:37] <ActionParsnip> mezy: they do have limited read / write cycles but they will last a fair while
[00:38] <bobbob1016> I have a drive that seems to be failing, it says "Buffer I/O error" on boot, and gparted repair disk (which calls e2fsck), says "zero length partition" or something, but sfdisk -l -V /dev/sdb sees it fine, from what I can tell, any ideas on how to get this drive mounted/working?
[00:38] <yeti1> aperson: ok, i'm workin on her now, i'll let u know
[00:39] <mezy> ActionParsnip: really? i have wondered if there were any limitations. found this out with the linux-image-generic kernel thing.
[00:40] <froosch> hello! what is the simplest option to get a newer version of bzr running than is in my gutsy now?
[00:42] <yeti1> : viewport switcher does not exist!!
[00:42] <yeti1> aperson: viewport switcher doesn't exist there
[00:42] <aperson> yeti1: it should
[00:43] <yeti1> aperson: i went to the wrong thing i now realize... where is it under ccsm?
[00:43] <aperson> yeti1: under desktop
[00:44] <yeti1> aperson: figured it out
[00:45] <mezy> is it recommended to make a bootable usb from ibex?
[00:45] <Guest87196> hm
[00:47] <mightymouse> hello all
[00:52] <ari_stress> morning all :)
[00:53] <ari_stress> hi, is there anyway i can know the ipaddress of host from network if i know the macaddress?
[00:53] <d_rugs420> I upgraded from 8.04 to 8.10 and now flash videos like from youtube are making firefox freeze up. any ideas what would cause this? its 64bit ubuntu
[00:53] <n2diy> I was playing around on my test box, and deleted my user. I have restored all my files and apps, but I no longer have sudo, or gksudo privledges. I checked /etc/sudoers, and it looks ok, compared to this box. I thinks something is amiss in /home/me, ideas?
[00:53] <presshere> ari_stress: a host from you network?
[00:54] <presshere> ari_stress: try nbtscan
[00:54] <cd_> hi who can tell does it enough for install system with the debian's first dvd iso ?
[00:55] <rww> n2diy: is your user in the admin group?
[00:55] <presshere> !debian | cd_
[00:55] <cd_> ok thank you
[00:56] <n2diy> rwm, I'm not sure, let me ssh into the box and have a look.
[00:56] <presshere> cd_: try an debian chan for help
[00:56] <cd_> yeah i get
[00:56] <n2diy> rwm, I'm not sure I can ssh into it, but here goes.
[00:56] <rww> cd_: Yes, you can install Debian using only the first DVD.
[00:56] <ari_stress> presshere: yes
[00:57] <presshere> ari_stress: sudo apt-get install nbtscan
[00:57] <cd_> ok  thanks everyone
[00:57] <Odium1> Doesn't it get annoying that ppl only come here for help?
[00:57] <_VIM_> that's what #Ubuntu's for onca
[00:57] <onca> or to help..
[00:58] <tanish2k> presshere:isn't nbtscan the other wy round ?
[00:58] <onca> Well, I really like Ubuntu.
[00:58] <froosch> oki. found it.
[00:58] <fallore> how do i get out of a manual page that i opened through an SSH client and back to the terminal?
[00:58] <zamba> is php4 available in the ubuntu repositories?
[00:58] <ghone> I have a bit of a problem.   Since installing a D-Link 804.11n adapter card
[00:58] <rww> fallore: by pressing 'q', generally.
[00:58] <presshere> tanish2k: what do you mean "wy"?
[00:58] <ghone> on my home desktop PC (running Ubuntu 8.10) I have had some stability problems.
[00:59] <bobbob1016> onca, It is the help channel, #ubuntu-offtopic is the "chat" channel
[00:59] <ghone> At present, I am unable to boot.  During the boot sequence, fsck fails complaining of inodes that were part of a corrupted orphan linked list are found.
[00:59] <Dr_Sneese> I'm having trouble installing a new usplash theme. I've followed the instructions in the read-me, with no luck. Any help?
[00:59] <tanish2k> presshere: "other way" -> ip to mac. but he needs to find ip from mac
[00:59] <fallore> thanks rww :D
[00:59] <ghone> fsck then dies with an exit status of 4.  The system demands that I give the root password and then run fsck in maintenance mode.  I do not remember my root
[00:59] <_VIM_> !usplash | Dr_Sneese
[00:59] <nellmathew> onca: i idle here, mainly because folks help me out when i need it, so if i happen to randomly see something i can help someone with, i try to help them out.. i think it's a great idea, a community that helps each other out - i see a lot of people that in come here for help, and see a question they know the answer to and end up being the support..
[00:59] <rww> zamba: which version of Ubuntu?
[01:00] <ghone> password.  Is there any way I can use my normal login acct and reset the root password to continue or to bypass the fsck and continue the boot?
[01:00] <presshere> tanish2k: nbtscan scans the network and print ip and macaddres
[01:00] <caimlas_> I'm trying to enable remote desktop on my ubuntu 8.10 box, and I've run into a snag. the box is remote to me, and I had someone (competent) set up 'remote desktop' within the ubuntu desktop. gdm is running, however nmap indicates there's nothing listening on :5900. does the uesr have to be actually logged on to connect via vnc? if so is there any way around it, or a better alternative? remote X?
[01:00] <yeti2> How do I find out what kernal i'm running including the architacture?
[01:00] <rww> yeti2: uname -a
[01:00] <usser> ghone, your root password is your user password
[01:00] <yeti2> rww: ah yes, thx
[01:00] <onca> nellmathew that's very altruistic.
[01:00] <zamba> rww: intrepid
[01:01] <usser> tanish2k, also wireshark
[01:01] <ghone> usser my user password isnot accepted as the root password
[01:01] <weternal> what's the package name for avant window navagator?
[01:01] <nellmathew> onca: that's what ubuntu's all about :)
[01:01] <usser> ghone, thats weird
[01:01] <usser> ghone, it should
[01:01] <ghone> yes
[01:01] <aperson> weternal: avant-window-navigator
[01:01] <usser> ghone, you can boot from livecd, and run fsck from there
[01:01] <weternal> thanks aperson
[01:01] <rww> zamba: no. It was removed from the repos during the feisty release cycle.
[01:02] <_VIM_> weternal: cairo-dock is way better if you ask me
[01:02] <_VIM_> especially with cairo themes
[01:02] <ghone> Aha!  Sounds like a plan.
[01:02] <yeti2> rww: so next question... i feel that this comp may be confused about its kernel (mid-life crisis), it claims to be generic but when i go to install skype, it says that the i386 skype is not compatible with the amd64 kernel... this is a core-2 duo processor
[01:02] <weternal> _VIM_ I'm purging awn
[01:02] <rww> zamba: "Deleted  on 2007-03-13  by Martin Pitt: obsoleted by php5, outstanding vulnerabilities, unsupported upstream"
[01:02] <zamba> rww: so to get php4 on intrepid i have to add the repos for feisty?
[01:02] <rww> zamba: no. You shouldn't be using php4 because it has security vulnerabilities, and you *definitely* shouldn't mix repository versions.
[01:03] <rww> yeti2: there's an amd64 version of the generic kernel. If the output of uname -a has "x86_64" in it, you're using it.
[01:03] <zamba> rww: what should i do then?
[01:04] <yeti2> rww: yea, that's there... then any idea how to get skpye or any other program that will run on the amd64 architecture or how to make the i386 work?
[01:04] <caimlas_> does anyone know if the ubuntu 'remote desktop' feature requires a user to be logged in in order to connect?
[01:04] <rww> zamba: Use php5...
[01:04] <_VIM_> weternal: here's my desktop with cairo-dock with cairo theme http://www.pixball.com/images/j94g3Screenshot.png.png
[01:04] <caimlas_> (logged in, as in an X session running)
[01:05] <Dr_Willis_Arch> caimlas_:  thers ways around that.  :)
[01:05] <caimlas_> Dr_Willis_Arch, any chance you giving me an idea of how to do so? :P
[01:05] <rww> yeti2: there's an amd64 skype package, isn't there?
[01:05] <Brack101> where's the gnomescreensaver config file?
[01:05] <Dr_Willis_Arch> caimlas_:  you could set gdm to auto-log them in..or you could set up VNC to get a remote desktop without the user ever logging in.
[01:05] <n2diy> rwm, I can't get into the box remotely, I'm going to have to drop down to a root shell. Do you recall the syntax to add "me" to the admin group, with, I think, the chgrp command?
[01:05] <Dr_Willis_Arch> caimlas_:  i normally 'ssh in' and run vncserver manually. then connect.. the remote box dosent even need a monitor, :)
[01:06] <yeti2> rww: the page only has a link for ubuntu 7.something +, no options for architecture, and all the sites i've seen link to the same place but i'll go have an other google for it
[01:06] <rww> yeti2: there's one linked at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Skype#AMD64 , anyway
[01:06] <presshere> _VIM_: cairo-dock needs a reboot after installing?
[01:06] <_VIM_> nope
[01:06] <_VIM_> it needs compiz though
[01:06] <presshere> i`v just instaled using synaptic and cant find it
[01:06] <rww> n2diy: (my nick is rww) sudo useradd -G admin me, should do it.
[01:07] <caimlas_> Dr_Willis_Arch, is vncserver the server run by ubuntu's desktop sharing feature?
[01:07] <_VIM_> presshere: you have to get it on the site, one sec
[01:07] <caimlas_> Dr_Willis_Arch, oddly, it appears as if vncserver isn't in $PATH on that box. :-/
[01:07] <n2diy> rww, sorry, my eyes are old, thanks.
[01:07] <caimlas_> Dr_Willis_Arch, or does it link to X, in some fashion, and just use vncserver libs?
[01:08] <Dr_Willis_Arch> caimlas_:  i normally install it with sudo apt-get install vnc4server
[01:08] <Dr_Willis_Arch> caimlas_:  gnomd has its own vncserver feature builtin
[01:08] <Dr_Willis_Arch> gnomes vncserver is called.. err.. i forget. :)
[01:08] <_VIM_> presshere: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CairoDock
[01:08] <caimlas_> Dr_willis, huh. is it inferior?
[01:08] <caimlas_> (to vncserver)
[01:08] <Dr_Willis_Arch> vnc is a VERY flexiable tool. theres more to it then jus shareing the 'current desktop'
[01:09] <presshere> _VIM_: thx
[01:09] <Dr_Willis_Arch> depends on your needs.
[01:09] <rww> Dr_Willis_Arch, caimlas_: GNOME's VNC thing is called "vino", I think.
[01:09] <_VIM_> np
[01:09] <Brack101> c'mon there has to be a way to configure screensaver settings without having to switch to xscreensaver
[01:09] <Dr_Willis_Arch>  rww  sounds right. :) i was thinking wino :) heh
[01:09] <rww> Brack101: http://live.gnome.org/GnomeScreensaver/FrequentlyAskedQuestions#head-64ef29e28226e09a3b849d8f00726cc004625c62
[01:09] <rww> Brack101: I disagree with that reasoning, but there you go.
[01:12] <eseven73> when i tunnel vnc in ssh, i see like 10 desktops stacked on top of one another, some sort of glitch or something
[01:12] <storbeck> eseven73: Did you ever get the script to work?
[01:12] <ari_stre1s> my goodness!!! installing arping REMOVES network-manager!!!
[01:12] <n2diy> rww, useradd -G admin me returned me exsists, and a prompt, how can I check if it worked?
[01:12] <eseven73> no
[01:13] <storbeck> Dang
[01:13] <eseven73> storbeck: i found a program, sbackup it's pretty sweet
[01:13] <storbeck> Good :) I'm glad you got things working
[01:14] <eseven73> yeah it's not half bad, it tars the backup, and puts it on a schedule of your choosing, you can even exclude directories you dont want like /tmp :)
[01:14] <rww> n2diy: hmm. I think I might have given you the wrong command. Try usermod -aG admin me
[01:15] <dmz> anyone here familiar with casper?
[01:15] <storbeck> dmz: The friendly ghost?
[01:15] <dmz> heh funny
[01:15] <dmz> live cd tool
[01:15] <Dr_Willis_AAO> !info casper
[01:15] <smokinjoe> The ghost? I know he's really friendly contrary to popular belief
[01:16] <D3RGPS31> anyone know of an image viewer that can be ontop of all windows, allow me to interact with the windows under it, and be transluscent :D
[01:16] <n2diy> rww, roger roger.
[01:16] <n2diy>  43
[01:16] <n2diy> -
[01:16] <n2diy> vwmbx
[01:17] <eseven73> storbeck: I appreciate the help yesterday too, everything worked great like the tarring and moving and deleting the tars, it's just that darn dvdrecord, I think it's my drive being lame :)
[01:18] <cole>  hi all, im trying to compile ekiga-3.0.2 from source, its asking for a dependency xv package, im running ubuntu any ideas what this package is?
[01:18] <rww> !info xv
[01:18] <rww> !info libxv-dev
[01:18] <Dr_Willis_AAO> xv was the tool.. ages ago...
[01:18] <bosco> i am using ubuntu server i am loged in via ssh how do i upload something to my server from my laptop via terminal
[01:18] <cole> im on 7.10 gutsy
[01:19] <storbeck> eseven73: Maybe, it could also be that I've never used dvdrecord either :P
[01:19] <bosco> ??
[01:19] <Dr_Willis_AAO> xv was never GPL if i recall...
[01:19] <labeau> i have something in my trash can that i cant get rid of  anyone know how remove stuff from trash can in a differant way?
[01:19] <eseven73> :)
[01:19] <rww> cole: try libxv-dev. It's in gutsy.
[01:19] <storbeck> I tried though
[01:19] <Dr_Willis_AAO> labeau:  sudo rm /path/to/the/right/trash  dont work eh?
[01:19] <Dr_Willis_AAO> !trash
[01:19] <rww> labeau: sudo rm -rf ~/.local/share/Trash
[01:19] <bosco> labeau, remove completely trash from installed things
[01:19] <cole> kool thanx for that rww
[01:19] <Dr_Willis_AAO> I always link .Trash to .local/share/Trash :)
[01:19] <ari_stre1s> hi, why both my wifi and cable networking are active in network-manager?
[01:19] <storbeck> Do not run that command rww
[01:20] <storbeck> That will delete the Trash folder itself
[01:20] <tijucas> yep.
[01:20] <storbeck> You want .../Trash/*
[01:20] <crdlb> which is harmless
[01:20] <rww> storbeck: it gets recreated the next time something gets moved to trash. It's fine.
[01:20] <storbeck> It does?
[01:20] <tijucas> hum..
[01:20] <bosco> ari_stre1s, they both use ath0 i am guessing
[01:20] <crdlb> using rm with * is rather dangerous
[01:20] <storbeck> Well then nevermind :) I don't use gnome
[01:20] <crdlb> particularly with sudo
[01:20] <eseven73> bosco try scp /home/bosco/file <remote user name here@<IP_ADDRESS>:/home/farawayuser/
[01:20] <zamba> when upgrading from gutsy to intrepid, do i have to go by hardy or can i go directly up to intrepid?
[01:21] <eseven73> oops leave off that <
[01:21] <crdlb> zamba: you can't skip releases, except LTS to LTS
[01:21] <zamba> crdlb: so i have to go through hardy?
[01:21] <crdlb> so you have to go through hardy
[01:21] <zamba> ok
[01:21] <rww> zamba: 7.10 > 8.04 > 8.10 should work, yes.
[01:21] <zamba> but it's just a matter of changing all instances in /etc/apt/sources.list and then do update / dist-upgrade?
[01:21] <eseven73> thats a lot of skipping, better to just reinstall clean
[01:22] <rww> zamba: no. Read the upgrade instructions.
[01:22] <zamba> eseven73: it's a server
[01:22] <rww> !upgrade | zamba
[01:22] <eseven73> so?
[01:22] <eseven73> its a lot of skipping
[01:22] <crdlb> zamba: if it's a server, you might consider stopping at hardy
[01:22] <zamba> crdlb: yeah
[01:23] <nellmathew> hey guys, i'm trying to install ubuntu on an old laptop - i have issues with the internal cdrom, so i'm trying to use the netinstall cd.. us.archive.ubuntu.com seems to get stuck trying to retrieve files and eventually skips it, how do i change the sources.list to archive.ubuntu.com?.. or is there another solution?
[01:23] <n2diy> +ha92910
[01:23] <eseven73> Anyways im on vnc so this is getting laggy, switching back to _VIM_  :)
[01:23] <_VIM_> hehe
[01:23] <labeau> well i have tryed all that and still it in there!
[01:24] <Slart> clear
[01:24] <LjL> nellmathew: uhm, i thought it ask you during the installation process which mirror you wanted to use
[01:24] <RHorse> hey
[01:24] <labeau> well i tryed all that and its still in there!
[01:24] <cole> yup that worked, now its asking for a "ptlib" package
[01:24] <nellmathew> LjL, it does but i don't know how to edit it... i can READ it, is there a key to edit? hold on lemme try "e"
[01:25] <ari_stre1s> bosco: what is ath0? i only see eth0 and eth1
[01:25] <LjL> nellmathew: err, you mean the actual file sources.list, or the list that the installer gives you? you probably can't edit the list it gives you - you just select from the choices
[01:25] <storbeck> ath0 is usually a wifi interface
[01:25] <LjL> nellmathew: as for sources.list, you'd need sudo to edit it, of course, but i'm not even sure that would really work with the installer
[01:25] <ari_stre1s> storbeck: ubuntu says my wifi as eth1
[01:25] <crdlb> ath0 is madwifi-only
[01:25] <nellmathew> LjL alright thanks, i'll see what i can do
[01:26] <storbeck> ari_stre1s: That's okay
[01:26] <bosco>  ari_stre1s never mind srry i use ath0 with my laptop srry i thought that you might be using it for mine it installed by default using ath0 for wireless and ethernet srry
[01:26] <n2diy> rww, It worked, thanks.
[01:27] <rww> n2diy: glad I could help :)
[01:27] <bosco> eseven73, one prob me not thinking i dont use port 22 for ssh is there a way to specify port like (ssh -p)
[01:27] <john> hi
[01:27] <CodyT07> hello, has anyone managed to get nvidia drivers to work with a real time kernel on ubuntu?
[01:28] <ari_stre1s> storbeck: the problem is now both eth0 (cable) and eth1 (wifi) are on and getting ip from dhcp, it should be like this, right? i connect the cable, so wifi shouldn't be active, right?
[01:28] <cole> rww: any idea what ptlib package is?
[01:29] <tijucas> CodyT07: try to install nvidia site driver?
[01:29] <bosco> eseven73, the -p command is not working for me
[01:29] <usser> ari_stre1s, ever since hardy network manager supports simultaneous connections.
[01:29] <storbeck> ari_stre1s: Use ifconfig
[01:29] <_VIM_> bosco i think its -P
[01:30] <CodyT07> i have, but it has failed every time when i try to install. Stats my kernel isn't supported
[01:30] <kitche> CodyT07: they do not support real time kernel last time I checked
[01:30] <storbeck> ari_stre1s: sudo ifconfig eth0 down
[01:30] <beinghuman> I gotta ask... What happened to the legacy nvidia hardware device?
[01:30] <john> hi all
[01:30] <ari_stre1s> usser: so it's not a bug?
[01:31] <usser> ari_stre1s, definetely not
[01:31] <ari_stre1s> hmm
[01:31] <onca> I had audio earlier today and 12 hours later my system only gets the audible alert
[01:31] <onca> I haven't rebooted.
[01:31] <bosco> _VIM_, no i am "scp" to upload from my laptop to my serve both linux of course lol i did a man scp and it said -p same thing for ssh works but it doesnt really change the port when i do that ????
[01:31] <_VIM_> bosco you're correct it's -p not -P, maybe you can pastebin your exact command so peopel in here can help you
[01:31] <_VIM_> people*
[01:31] <storbeck> onca: Something is probably using your sound
[01:31] <Extreme_b> Hi guys, will like to ask if anyone have tried plucking in an external thumb drive on ubuntu server ?
[01:31] <n2diy> I want to draw a flow chart of my network, and I'm not fond of gimp, suggestions?
[01:32] <storbeck> look through ps and kill whatever is using it
[01:32] <rww> cole: libpt-1.11.2-dev, I think
[01:32] <_VIM_> bosco is port 22 forwarded in your router?
[01:32] <Dr_Willis_AAO> Extreme_b:  You can plug thm in.. and mount them if you want...
[01:32] <Nubbie> n2diy: dia
[01:32] <cole> rww: thanx i'll try it :)
[01:32] <rww> cole: oh, wait, were you the person on gutsy?
[01:33] <cole> yu
[01:33] <rww> cole: Try libpt-dev instead, then
[01:33] <cole> rww: yup i dont have that package in synaptic
 i have tried ... the problem that i am facing is that i went to /media  directory and type in "dir " but it was not there. the only things that surface are cdrom cdrom0
[01:34] <jonaskoelker> when I mplayer -ao pulse *, mplayer repeatedly says "Connection died: connection terminated" and doesn't play any sound.  How do I fix this?
[01:34] <onca> thank you storbeck, I'll look for whatever it is
 tried on my IBM system x3650 and also my virtual machine
[01:34] <rww> cole: do you have libpt-dev?
[01:35] <doodle77> how do i disable write caching on gvfs mounted filesystems?
[01:35] <cole> rww: thats doing it, thanx muchly, your a star :)
[01:36] <jeremie> go there>>> #cool
 i have tried ... the problem that i am facing is that i went to /media  directory and type in "dir " but it was not there. the only things that surface are cdrom cdrom0
[01:36] <mfdavid> hi all. Im trying to run phpmysql. But when I try to access localhost/phpmyadmin, it tries to SAVE the file (.phtml.part)... weird... any tips?
[01:36] <mib_xxa83s> _bernz_ , are you at the keyboard?
[01:38] <spiongraz> how can i change the default output that pulseaudio uses to output audio?
[01:38] <storbeck> Anybody know how to set mocp to use a specific theme all the time?
[01:38] <Extreme_b> hi. would like to ask if ubuntu have a list of what file is dependancy on what file ?
[01:38] <dougl>  I just upgraded my xbmc on my ubuntu 8.04 system now when I try to start xbmc on my second display (1080p tv) with the -fs option it complains my color depth is not 24 - but nvidia-setting says it is - any suggestions?
[01:38] <Cool_Nick> No rule to make target `/usr/src/linux-<IP_ADDRESS>/arch/xen/Makefile'.  Stop.
[01:39] <Cool_Nick> ^problem I cant get past for the last 3 days
[01:39] <Mal3ko> "
[01:39] <Mal3ko> In other words, to find your correct MTU, you would first start with a small packet size, and then gradually increase it until you see fragmentation
[01:39] <Mal3ko> opss
[01:40] <Extreme_b> hi. would like to ask if ubuntu have a list of what file is dependancy on what file ?
[01:40] <Mal3ko> "In other words, to find your correct MTU, you would first start with a small packet size, and then gradually increase it until you see fragmentation" <- what does fragmentation mean here?
[01:40] <Mal3ko> http://onlyubuntu.blogspot.com/2008/07/how-to-optimize-your-internet.html
[01:41] <Cool_Nick> I keep being told people make there kernels...I know they do....but why cant I find the answer to this stupid little problem
[01:41] <phloat> I'm having trouble getting intrepid to see my wired network. Can anyone help?
[01:41] <storbeck> If anyone is still pondering my question - nevermind. I figured it out
[01:41] <_VIM_> Cool_Nick: i DONT think the average Ubuntu users compiles their own Kernels, where did you hear this?
[01:42] <CodyT07> so i cannot use a nvidia driver with a real time kernel?
[01:42] <storbeck> Cool_Nick: What is the command you're using?
[01:42] <Cool_Nick> _VIM_ The half dozen times ive been asking about my kernel issues for the last few days
[01:42] <spiongraz> Cool_Nick,  nvidia driver works with real time kernel
[01:42] <spiongraz> why shouldnt it
[01:43] <_VIM_> Cool_Nick: i know who you're talking bout and they use gentoo and arch for their main OS, not Ubuntu :)
[01:43] <storbeck> Cool_Nick: sudo make menuconfig
[01:43] <Cool_Nick> storbeck...thats using: make-kpkg clean
[01:43] <sweettuxy> hi ^^
[01:43] <storbeck> Then, make && make modules_install
[01:43] <Cool_Nick> storbeck, past that stage
[01:44] <spiongraz> Cool_Nick, then check the config again, somethings not working, btw you need the xen stuff?
[01:44] <doc``> hmm having some problems with the volume control, cant get the channels to stick together and cant get the right volume to be shown.
[01:44] <Cool_Nick> storbeck, already done that...I then get issues with the initrd not booting past 'waiting for filesystem'
[01:44] <Cool_Nick> spiongraz, is that another apt-get I have to do?
[01:44] <storbeck> Cool_Nick: If you've already done make && make modules_install - then that's all you need to do
[01:44] <storbeck> Then just add the new bzImage into your boot loader
[01:44] <Cool_Nick> storbeck, that doesnt make an initrd
[01:45] <storbeck> pfft, You don't need an initrd
[01:45] <Cool_Nick> storbeck, so I use the mkinitramfs...
[01:45] <spiongraz> Cool_Nick, apt-get? just delete the xen stuff from the kernel config, and try again...
[01:45] <Cool_Nick> spiongraz, Thats using make oldconfig
[01:45] <spiongraz> Cool_Nick, use make xconfig
[01:45] <Cool_Nick> spiongraz, I tried putting no to all the xen options in the kernel and still get the xen error
[01:45] <storbeck> I have never once needed an initrd
[01:45] <crdlb> you need an initrd unless you made sure to compile everything needed to read the root fs into the kernel
[01:46] <jonaskoelker> no one cares to try to answer my question?
[01:46] <C-S-B> i use a couple of drivers, b43 and sta for my broadcom wireless, the sta always stays in the hardware drivers menu but b43 will disapear and I have to modprobe it again and restart to get it show
[01:46] <jonaskoelker> when I mplayer -ao pulse *, mplayer repeatedly says "Connection died: connection terminated" and doesn't play any sound.  How do I fix this?
[01:46] <kitche> jonaskoelker: don't use a *
[01:46] <jeremie> kkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk
[01:46] <jeremie> k
[01:46] <jeremie> k
[01:46] <Cool_Nick> storbeck, what do I put in the menu.list instead of the initrd option?
[01:46] <jeremie> k
[01:46] <FloodBot3> jeremie: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:46] <jonaskoelker> kitche: okay.  The same thing happens when I play just a single file
[01:47] <jonaskoelker> kitche: and also, why not use a *?
[01:47] <storbeck> Cool_Nick: I can't help you with Grub. I'm an old school lilo-er :P
[01:47] <CarlFK> holla@dhcp246:~$ DISPLAY=:0 ev_calibrate; XLoadQueryFont: failed loading font '*freemono*'
[01:47] <jonaskoelker> kitche: assuming it only matches *mp3...
[01:47] <spiongraz> Cool_Nick, jesus how are you building the kernel? i hope you build a debian package?
[01:47] <CarlFK> where can I find that font?
[01:47] <storbeck> I think you can use the old initrd though
[01:47] <Cool_Nick> storbeck, you bypass initrd with ubuntu?
[01:47] <storbeck> Yes
[01:48] <Cool_Nick> spiongraz, I try ubuntu way and keep getting stuck with that XEN.  non ubuntu way gets me stuck at initrd
[01:48] <josephlegarreta> g
[01:48] <huwenfeng> i got a laptop, and i got a 19 inches display, how can i tell Ubuntu to use the two screen the same time ?
[01:48] <maxagaz> why the MTU of a server shouldn't be too high ?
[01:48] <phloat> I'm having some trouble getting intrepid to see a wired network. Can anyone help?
[01:48] <huwenfeng> i mean, i can got two screen showing different infomation!
[01:48] <storbeck> !ask | phloat
[01:49] <crdlb> huwenfeng: what video card?
[01:49] <huwenfeng> crdlb: GMA 4500
[01:49] <Cool_Nick> spiongraz, I think my problem is the fact that the kernel does NOT come with xen...is that something ubuntu adds to the kernel?  if so where do I get it?
[01:49] <spiongraz> Cool_Nick, only use ubuntu way on ubuntu pls. and just kick the xen stuff out of your config, with make menuconfig, for example, but make xconfig is more convenient, altho youll need some libqt package, dont know the right name, google can help you, in make xconfig you can search your config for xen stuff. its nice
[01:49] <crdlb> huwenfeng: you want them to show the same thing or not?
[01:49] <spiongraz> Cool_Nick, no thats not your problem
[01:50] <huwenfeng> crdlb: not the same thing,  i want one to show , for example, firefox, the other show the x-terminal or play movies
[01:50] <phloat> storbeck: I didn't ask to ask a question. I said i'm having trouble with my network. I'm running Intrepid, and though I'm on a wired network, the computer won't connect.
[01:50] <Cool_Nick> spiongraz, will mcedit the .config and remove all lines with xen be good enough?
[01:50] <crdlb> huwenfeng: have you looked in Screen Resolution and made sure Mirror Screens isn't enabled?
[01:50] <storbeck> phloat: You're asking a generic question. You will get more help if you say exactly what is not working. Error messages are a big plus.
[01:51] <spiongraz> Cool_Nick, i wouldnt do that for several reasons, why dont you just use a tool especially made for that.
[01:51] <Cool_Nick> I don't know where to find it in make menuconfig
[01:51] <ari_stre1s> hi, can we change the modified time of a file?
[01:51] <storbeck> Cool_Nick: use /
[01:52] <Cool_Nick> My kernel does NOT have a xen directory...so Im thinking the options might not be showing up
[01:52] <crdlb> ari_stre1s: touch it?
[01:52] <huwenfeng> crdlb: what ? my resolution is 1280 800, and in the Screen Resolution, i have not see "Mirror screen" , i saw "Clone Screens" . Is that what you mean?
[01:52] <crdlb> huwenfeng: yes, it says mirror here, but that might be a change in jaunty
[01:52] <crdlb> same thing though
[01:53] <storbeck> aitd: touch -t<PHONE_NUMBER>00.00 filename
[01:54] <huwenfeng> crdlb: oh, i enabled it , now , they show the same thing!
[01:54] <ari_stre1s> thanks storbeck
[01:54] <crdlb> huwenfeng: err, what exactly happens when it's not enabled?
[01:55] <huwenfeng> crdlb: it does not detect the Screen, the Screen is black.
[01:56] <huwenfeng> crdlb: i mean, i did not use the independent screen ever, and now i want to use it to show more things. i mean show different things on the two screen,
[01:56] <storbeck> huwenfeng: Did you reconfigure X?
[01:57] <storbeck> It's no surprise that it doesn't work if all you did was plug it in
[01:57] <crdlb> storbeck: that's not true
[01:58] <axisys> dpkg --get-selections provides complete list of all pkgs intsalled on a system ?
[01:58] <crdlb> XRandR 1.2 should make it work automagically
[01:58] <storbeck> crdlb: Sometimes it does auto-detect it, and sometimes not
[01:58] <crdlb> huwenfeng: pastebin the output of 'xrandr'
[01:58] <huwenfeng> storbeck: no, i did not.
[01:58] <storbeck> huwenfeng: pastebin your dmesg
[01:59] <storbeck> Also pastebin lspci
[01:59] <huwenfeng> http://dpaste.com/4365/
[02:00] <huwenfeng> http://dpaste.com/4366/
[02:00] <storbeck> Is LVDS your 2nd monitor?
[02:00] <crdlb> LVDS is the laptop panel
[02:00] <huwenfeng> oh, now , the two screen just shows the same thing.
[02:01] <felixsulla> What character designates a comment in defaults.list?
[02:01] <storbeck> 20.752170] ata1.00: ATA-8: FUJITSU MHZ2160BH G2, 8909, max UDMA/100
[02:01] <storbeck> Which monitor is that?
[02:01] <J-_> Partition permissions, I need some help. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=6821692#post6821692
[02:02] <perlsyntax> Is there a link to install python 2.6 on ubuntu 8.10?
[02:02] <crdlb> storbeck: that's a HDD
[02:02] <huwenfeng> VGA is the independent screnn
[02:02] <huwenfeng> and LVDS is the screen of my laptop
[02:03] <felixsulla> What character designates a comment in defaults.list?
[02:03] <storbeck> Ahah, yep. you're right crdlb. It's been a long day :P
[02:03] <huwenfeng> hehe
[02:03] <perlsyntax> Has anyone install python 2.6 in the software source?
[02:03] <syncping> is this all real user ?
[02:03] <fosco__> felixsulla, #
[02:03] <syncping> or fake bot ?
[02:03] <huwenfeng> so how can i set them to use the two
[02:04] <crdlb> huwenfeng: it should be as simple as clicking on both monitors and clicking Enable
[02:04] <crdlb> I don't have a monitor nearby to try it myself
[02:05] <storbeck> huwenfeng: Try this: xrandr --output VGA --preferred --right-of LVDS
[02:05] <mezy> hi
[02:05] <huwenfeng> storbeck: xrandr: screen cannot be larger than 1280x1280 (desired size 2560x1024)
[02:06] <huwenfeng> storbeck: this is the output
[02:06] <crdlb> :/
[02:06] <storbeck> Wow, that's a large resolution
[02:06] <storbeck> Change it to 1280x1280
[02:06] <crdlb> huwenfeng: pastebin your /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[02:06] <crdlb> that's the total combined it's talking about
[02:07] <crdlb> even the old 945 can do 2048x2048, so something is wrong
[02:07] <junglecrazd1> hello. i have a .tar.gz which i decompressed. and am having h*ll installing the driver which is located inside the file.
[02:07] <junglecrazd1> any help?
[02:07] <huwenfeng> http://dpaste.com/4369/
[02:08] <felixsulla> Is there a defaults.list that is user specific, rather than system wide?
[02:08] <mezy> can someone tell me why i cant use usb creater to make a bootable usb for 8.04?
[02:09] <Louis> This might be a bit of an esoteric question, but I'm running an FTP server that is serving data for a research project.  The data is currently stored in the proprietary format for SPSS, but can also be saved as an excel document, xml, or a number of other formats.  My question is this:  Since as many as 3 other people will be manipulating this data, is there a way to ensure that one person's changes don't get overwritten?  Ideall
[02:09] <Louis> y, I'd like for there to be a master copy to which all changes get merged.  Is this possible?
[02:09] <doodle77> felixsulla: ~/.local/share/applications/defaults.list
[02:10] <crdlb> huwenfeng: wc -l /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[02:10] <storbeck> Louis: You could write a script for it
[02:10] <rvn>  i am trying to connect a serial console to a linux box
[02:10] <rvn> i run "getty 9600 /dev/ttyS00 nodetach"
[02:10] <rvn>  and after a few seconds it dumps me back to a prompt
[02:10] <rvn> adn the terminal isnt connecting at all
[02:10] <junglecrazd1> got the pixma mp190. went to the europe canon website and downloaded the debian drivers. decompressed the .tar.gz file but don't know how to install the files after they are decompreseed.
[02:10] <rvn> comp only has one serial port, and its detected
[02:10] <Louis> storbeck:  lol, I'm not sure i'd know how to
[02:11] <Chaorain> I am installing an updated ubuntu. Since I want to tes it first I made a seperate partition for the main install but they will be using the same /var directory for my MythTV media. Both builds are based on 8.10. I will probably only boot to the old ubuntu once or twice. The installer says "The file System on /dev/sdc3 assigned to /var has not been marked for formatting. Directories containing sytems files that already exist under any defined mountpo
[02:11] <yoyoned1> doodle77: use version control like bzr or git
[02:11] <remi> anyone with an intel x4500hd card with ubuntu?
[02:11] <felixsulla> doodle77: Do I need to copy everything from the /usr version or can i just add to my local one and have it "overwrite" the /usr defaults?
[02:11] <Louis> storbeck:  i was hoping for some sort of revision control
[02:11] <taylor_> Ubuntu rocks! All I wish was that Wine supported Adobe Photoshop :)
[02:11] <kitche> Chaorain: you can't share a /var
[02:11] <Louis> but i've never had to do anything like this
[02:11] <doodle77> felixsulla: only add your local one
[02:11] <Louis> taylor_:  i think it does
[02:12] <yoyoned1> Louis: bzr or  git
[02:12] <storbeck> Louis: check out subversion
[02:12] <doodle77> taylor_: try virtualbox in seamless mode, if you have a windows disk
[02:12] <Louis> yoyoned1:  do those have to be aware of the filetype?
[02:12] <Chaorain> kitche, but will my media be deleted?
[02:12] <yoyoned1> no
[02:12] <Louis> storbeck:  thanks. i will
[02:12] <huwenfeng> http://dpaste.com/4371/
[02:12] <doodle77> yoyoned1: wrong person?
[02:13] <huwenfeng> storbeck: http://dpaste.com/4371/
[02:13] <huwenfeng> crdlb: http://dpaste.com/4371/
[02:13] <yoyoned1> doodle77: yeah, sorry\
[02:13] <NCommander> O_o;
[02:13] <crdlb> huwenfeng: that works too :)
[02:13] <huwenfeng> this is my /etc/X11/xorg.conf file
[02:13] <NCommander> WTF is -J?
[02:13] <Louis> yoyoned1:  how do those compare to subversion?
[02:13] <taylor_> nah; CS3 just doesn't want to run well :)
[02:13] <doodle77> yoyoned1: unless you're trying to tell me to make a patch, which i might do if i actually have time at some point
[02:13] <kitche> NCommander: -J can be anything ask your real question instead of a generic one
[02:13] <huwenfeng> now , the system detect two screen, but they show the same thing.
[02:13] <crdlb> huwenfeng: just a guess, but maybe hardy doesn't fully support the 4500
[02:13] <NCommander> kitche, w.r.t to IRC
[02:14] <NCommander> I've never seen +J/-J on freenode before.
[02:14] <crdlb> huwenfeng: try asking #intel-gfx about the error you got
[02:14] <kitche> NCommander: a limit
[02:14] <crdlb> NCommander: it throttles the join rate
[02:14] <kitche> NCommander: if you never seen it on Freenode then you have not been on freenode very often
[02:14] <Chaorain> What just happened? all those people just left and came back
[02:14] <crdlb> but it doesn't handle netsplits well, so the bots unset it
[02:14] <NCommander> kitche, I don't op on this server.
[02:15] <storbeck> kitche: He's referring to 21:13  :: ServerMode/#ubuntu [+o FloodBot3] by irc.freenode.net
[02:15] <storbeck> err
[02:15] <storbeck> the one above that
[02:15] <kitche> storbeck: I know what he means
[02:15] <kitche> NCommander: you don't haev to op to see that but thena gain your off-topic
[02:15] <rvn>  i am trying to connect a serial console to a linux box
[02:15] <rvn> i run "getty 9600 /dev/ttyS00 nodetach"
[02:16] <rvn>  and after a few seconds it dumps me back to a prompt
[02:16] <rvn>  and after a few seconds it dumps me back to a prompt
[02:16] <rvn> adn the terminal isnt connecting at all
[02:16] <rvn> comp only has one serial port, and its detected
[02:16] <storbeck> !enter | rvn
[02:16] <crdlb> huwenfeng: I mean the "screen cannot be larger than 1280x1280" error, btw
[02:16] <Flannel> rvn: Please stop using the enter key as punctuation
[02:17] <rvn> i am trying to connect a serial console to a linux box, i run "getty 9600 /dev/ttyS00 nodetach", and after a few seconds it dumps me back to a prompt, the terminal isnt connecting at all, comp only has one serial port, and its detected
[02:17] <Chaorain> kitche, will my media be deleted when I upgrade?
[02:18] <linny1> Chaorain upgrade what
[02:19] <Louis> has anybody ever used Unison File Synchronizer?
[02:19] <kitche> Chaorain: like I said you can not share a /var between distros unless you want the logs to be overwritten among other things
[02:20] <Loganhoup> Does anyone know about getting program added into the repos?
[02:20] <Out_Cold> what command lists my drivers and hardware?
[02:20] <cdavis> Out_Cold: lspci I think is one way
[02:20] <Jufis> do I need KDE to run PokerTH?
[02:20] <Out_Cold> that was the one..
[02:21] <Out_Cold> soo many commands hard to remember which is which
[02:21] <cdavis> Out_Cold: dmesg is another good way to try to see what drivers have been loaded
[02:21] <Jufis> ops, wrong channel
[02:21] <linny1> Jufis: no
[02:21] <Out_Cold> dmesg is better with grep though right?
[02:21] <remi> does anyone here run Ubuntu with an Intel X4500HD graphic card?
[02:21] <innociv> What VPS do you guys use?
[02:22] <Jufis> linny1, you sure? I thought that K-sign next to it's name in Add/Remove Applications meant that it needs KDE
[02:22] <storbeck> innociv: virtuozzo
[02:22] <Chaorain> kitche, Ok I understand I can't swap back and forth but if I just ipdate will it delete everything or leave my videos alone?
[02:22] <crdlb> remi: huwenfeng is running hardy with a 4500 apparently; why do you ask?
[02:22] <innociv> i'm using linode.  Found an incrediably cheap one, cometvps, but don't know WHY it's so cheap
[02:22] <linny1> Jufis:it may install som libs but it will still work fine i use kde and gnome apps and i use openbox
[02:23] <innociv> i mean the actual host o_O
[02:23] <Ed54> I'm having trouble getting my agere modem working in ubuntu.  It's not recognized, and i can't get martian to work
[02:23] <kitche> innociv: your off topic go to #ubuntu-offtopic to ask your question but really if you don't know why they are cheap then you don't use VPS very much then
[02:24] <remi> crdlb: i've been looking to buy this dell laptop, but it only comes with this specific card. and I've been reading a lot of negative things about it (and the intel xorg driver) so I wanted to make sure it would work correctly with Ubuntu.
[02:24] <innociv> Kitche? Eh?  I mean why is it half the price of my current one, not why are vps cheaper than dedicated.  But alright
[02:24] <Ed54> any help on getting martian to work?  i've followed the instructions and i still get an error with modprobe
[02:25] <kitche> innociv: like I said you must not use VPS very much or know hte differences between different VPS's
[02:25] <storbeck> 21:13  :: ServerMode/#ubuntu [+o FloodBot3] by irc.freenode.net
[02:25] <storbeck> whoops, sorry.
[02:25] <huwenfeng> #intel-glx
[02:25] <innociv> Well that's what I meant.  I tmustbe cheap because it's gimped..
[02:26] <storbeck> innociv: Just call the hosting provider for more info. </off topic>
[02:26] <crdlb> remi: you'd have to ask him, but it seems to be working except for multihead (it looks like the intel driver may still max out at 2048 by default even though the H/W is capable of more)
[02:26] <fearful> anyone know why I'm getting distorted sound with ubuntu 8.10 and Rhythm box
[02:26] <storbeck> distorted sound?
[02:27] <fearful> storbeck, yes when I put my volume all the way up theres a slight distortion
[02:27] <storbeck> Probably because your volume is all the way up...
[02:27] <RHorse> fearful: I've had that on a Toshiba lappie
[02:28] <Mox`> how do I give a computer a static ip when it connects to my dhcp server?
[02:28] <fearful> RHorse, any fix?
[02:28] <RHorse> I never could fix it
[02:28] <zhjawe> Does anyone know how can i open .sit file in ubuntu?
[02:28] <Zopiac> I had no problem with my Toshiba
[02:28] <storbeck> zhjawe: What kind of file is it?
[02:29] <zhjawe> storbeck:it is a compress file in MAC.
[02:29] <C-S-B> Mox`, either by setting a fixed ip on the router for that pc's mac address or by setting the ip on your pc with the correct dns and gateway addresses
[02:30] <Mox`> C-S-B the first solution, fixed ip on my router, how?
[02:30] <linny1> zhjawe: http://my.smithmicro.com/unix/stuffit/index.html any help ?
[02:30] <doodle77> Mox`: if your dhcp server runs linux, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=122108
[02:30] <Mox`> doodle77, thanks
[02:31] <storbeck> zhjawe: http://fileroller.sourceforge.net/features.html
[02:31] <RHorse> fearful: it would seem the output of the soundcard is too powerful for the amp
[02:31] <Chaorain> I was told that if I make a seperate partition and move the contents of /home to the new partition and after a new install set the partition to /home all my settings will be preserved but I would need to reinstall the programs. is this correct?
[02:31] <Out_Cold> so how do i find what driver is installed for my ethernet?
[02:31] <fearful> RHorse, never happend before tho
[02:32] <zhjawe> linny1: storbeck:OH,Thank you very much.
[02:32] <C-S-B> most dhcp servers on routers or servers allow you to state that a certain mac will only get an allocated ip
[02:32] <storbeck> np
[02:32] <mar> anyone know how to figure out which application is using the soundcard (artsd)?
[02:32] <werdnum> hi!
[02:32] <RHorse> fearful: does it sound like clipping?
[02:32] <werdnum> If I add a 1 TB drive to a computer and want to turn it into a media player, what's my best option?
[02:32] <fearful> RHorse, yes kind of
[02:33] <Out_Cold> the ubuntu media distro?
[02:33] <Ed54> I'm having trouble getting my agere modem working in ubuntu.  It's not recognized, and i can't get martian to work
[02:33] <Ed54> I'm having trouble getting my agere modem working in ubuntu.  It's not recognized, and i can't get martian to work
[02:33] <linny1> werdnum: tou mean like a media centre ? myth tv
[02:33] <Ed54> sorry about flood
[02:33] <werdnum> Ideally, I'd like to boot it up and be able to control it from a laptop or iPhone
[02:33] <Ed54> any help on getting martian to work?  i've followed the instructions and i still get an error with modprobe
[02:33] <RHorse> fearful: I was able to get it to sound ok, when I turned down the pcm control, but it was lower than I'd have liked
[02:33] <werdnum> (web-browser based?)
[02:33] <maxagaz> mysql 5.1 isn't compiled for ubuntu ?
[02:34] <crdlb> werdnum: mpd + a web client like phpmp
[02:34] <fearful> RHorse, yes, I'm testing that gotta drop it almost half way to sound ok, but now the sound ain't as good in volume :s
[02:34] <linny1> werdnum: i dont know much about myth tv but its likely to have those features try there irc or google you could also lookinto xbmc
[02:34]  * werdnum googles mpd
[02:35] <crdlb> werdnum: that's music-only though
[02:35] <bmk789> do i have to do something special to install libapache-authcookie-perl?
[02:35] <werdnum> crdlb: ah
[02:35] <werdnum> that's a deal-breaker
[02:35] <slerder> Hey guys Im going to upgrade to 4gb of ram and am going to install ubuntu 64 bit edition (currently have 2gb). I just wanted to know hos big my swap partition should be. (I think I read somewhere it should be 3x my ram size) Thanks
[02:35] <werdnum> I specifically want it for video
[02:35] <nicklas_> yo
[02:35] <linny1> werdnum: you could set up vlc to easyly stream stuff
[02:35] <RHorse> fearful: what kind of box are you running?
[02:36] <fearful> RHorse, ubuntu 8.10 on a HP Pavillion dv6000
[02:36] <kitche> slerder: umm maybe half of your ram if you really don't do suspend or something
[02:37] <fearful> RHorse, but its only on certaint notes or peaks of songs
[02:37] <nicklas_> anyone using enlightenment?
[02:37] <werdnum> linny1: Not after streaming. I'll sync all my video files to a 1 TB hard disk attached to it
[02:37] <kitche> nicklas_: what about it since you didn't really ask a question
[02:37] <werdnum> linny1: but yeah, VLC would be nice it already has the web interface
[02:38] <b1n42y> slerder, you can have no swap !!
[02:38] <b1n42y> slerder, unless you know of a specific app which specifically rewuires it
[02:38] <linny1> werdnum: look at xbmc im certian that has a web interface
[02:39] <linny1> werdnum:myth tv prolly had too but im not sure
[02:39] <jepitan> tanggerang_boy
[02:39] <linny1> *hads
[02:39] <jmadero> anyone around that can help with USB sound card?
[02:39] <linny1> lol *has
[02:39] <b1n42y> slerder, i have 2gb on my laptop, multiple applications open, amarok heaps of tabs in firefox, gimp etc etc and still had spare ram
[02:39] <slerder> b1n42y rignt now i see that 127 MB of my 6 gb are being used...
[02:39] <nicklas_> kitche: im using moonOS, ubuntu based but with lxde+enlightenment instead of gnome+metacity/compiz .... i have tried eee-applet, a couple of scripts, but still cant get hotkeys to work, any ideas?
[02:39] <slerder> dont know what app is using it though...
[02:39] <mikeman1> Anyone use an aircard here? Im looking to buy one that works well with ubuntu, googling gave me some mix results with older version of ubuntu.
[02:40] <werdnum> linny1: thanks for the pointers :)
[02:40] <b1n42y> slerder, im sure theres a command to find out, not sure what it is
[02:40] <RHorse> fearful: This link looks interesting: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HdaIntelSoundHowto
[02:41] <b1n42y> you can always format that partition to something else and see if everything runs, but theres no way id even have a swap enabled if i had 4 gb , i odnt have a swap for 2gb ram
[02:41] <b1n42y> slerder, the old 2.5 * ram is back in the day when ram was expensive
[02:42] <nicklas_> anyone else?: im using moonOS, ubuntu based but with lxde+enlightenment instead of gnome+metacity/compiz .... i have tried eee-applet, a couple of scripts, but still cant get hotkeys to work, any ideas?
[02:42] <b1n42y> slerder, but yeah if you want to hibernate then you will need equal swap of your memory
[02:43] <slerder> b1n42y thanks for all youre help... ill look into it some more.. I never hibernate though. thanks
[02:43] <b1n42y> slerder, suspend works great without swap  ;p
[02:43] <Loganhoup> Does anyone know about getting a program of mine added into the repos? If this is toff topic please direct me to a more suitable channel. Thank You.
[02:44] <b1n42y> !developers
[02:44] <_VIM_> Loganhoup: maybe #Ubuntu-devs or is it -dev
[02:44] <_VIM_> one of those
[02:44] <b1n42y> !development
[02:44] <Loganhoup> THank you
[02:44] <b1n42y> np
[02:44] <Loganhoup> Thank you*
[02:44] <fearful> RHorse, oh joy I did something awful now I can't mute with my quickplay buttons
[02:44] <jmadero> anyone know anything about USB sound cards?
[02:45] <Loganhoup> VIM its #ubuntu-devel
[02:45] <_VIM_> doh
[02:45] <RHorse> fearful: you had those working? Cool!
[02:46] <JKcomputer> Running Intreped Ibex i386, and I'm trying to install updates, but when I click on "Install Updates", it doesn't seem to start. Any ideas?
[02:46] <fearful> RHorse, my buttons can't control sound any more:S
[02:47] <RHorse> fearful: what did you change?
[02:47] <fearful> RHorse, from pulseaudio to ALSA then did killall alsa, I reverted by selecting them to autodetect and restarted pulseaudio and nothing
[02:47] <linny1> JKcomputer: what happens if you do sudo apt-get update;sudo apt-get upgrade
[02:48] <RHorse> Did alsa improve things?
[02:48] <fearful> RHorse, kinda, but it will be annoying not to have my buttons working!
[02:48] <Githlar> Woah! Hello everybody!
[02:48] <linny1> Githlar: hello
[02:48] <jmadero> no one here can help with my 5.1 USB sound card :(
[02:48] <jmadero> ?
[02:49] <kitche> nicklas_: not really since I do not use any applets with my enlightenment
[02:49] <RHorse> The buttons are a luxury - the sound is the thing. ;)
[02:49] <fearful> RHorse, on the system > preferences > sound changed them to alsa mixer and then sudo killall pulseaudio
[02:49] <mlbarnes> I am using Ubuntu 8.10 and have setup an email server using amavis with clamd. I am getting this error in my mail.log. amavis[5459]: (05459-08) (!!)ClamAV-clamd av-scanner FAILED : CODE(0xa33b088) unexpected , output="/var/lib/amavis/tmp/amavis-20090301T183709-05459/parts: lstat() failed. ERROR\n" at (eval 98) line 527. How do I correct this?
[02:49] <fearful> RHorse, to be honest it wasn't much help
[02:50] <bonobo> hello there, i have a russian srt file, but it seems that my computer can't read cyrilllic stuff, how do i mend it?
[02:50] <RHorse> No distortion with alsa?
[02:50] <linny1> JKcomputer: did you manage to update from terminal ?
[02:50] <fearful> RHorse, yes distortion, and the buttons try and lower/mute volume but nothing happens the bar won't move
[02:50] <jmadero> system-> administration -> language support
[02:50] <nicklas_> ok
[02:50] <jmadero> fearful, did you check your configs in system-> preferences ->keyboard shortcuts?
[02:51] <mikeman1> Anyone use an aircard here? Im looking to buy one that works well with ubuntu, googling gave me some mix results with older version of ubuntu.
[02:51] <n2diy> bonobo, at the login screen there is an options button, you can change your lang. there.
[02:51] <RHorse> Yes, I suspect hardware incompatibility in this case. IMO
[02:51] <fearful> jmadero, ... they try and work I see the window with the volume pop up
[02:51] <fearful> RHorse, how can I check if I'm using ALSA or PulseAudio
[02:52] <sug1> how do i browser files over the network in Xubuntu?
[02:52] <fearful> RHorse, I can live with the sound problem lowering the PCM but the buttons are a must :O
[02:53] <jmadero> fearful, run alsamixer and see if something comes up
[02:53] <jmadero> if it does
[02:53] <jmadero> you're using alsa
[02:53] <mlbarnes> I am using Ubuntu 8.10 and have setup an email server using amavis with clamd. I am getting this error in my mail.log. amavis[5459]: (05459-08) (!!)ClamAV-clamd av-scanner FAILED : CODE(0xa33b088) unexpected , output="/var/lib/amavis/tmp/amavis-20090301T183709-05459/parts: lstat() failed. ERROR\n" at (eval 98) line 527. How do I correct this?
[02:53] <Guest79973> hi
[02:53] <fearful> jmadero, well it always came up before too
[02:53] <RHorse> fearful: I dunno. Try aplay and look at the output
[02:53] <jmadero> well I was almost positive alsa uses pulse
[02:53] <jmadero> because you can't install alsa without pulse stuff also
[02:54] <fearful> RHorse, pastebin? the result
[02:54] <tritium> jmadero: sure you can
[02:54] <jmadero> oh, that's news to me
[02:54] <njero> hey all, is there a preference between apache2-threaded-dev and apache2-prefork-dev
[02:54] <tritium> jmadero: a default ubuntu install has alsa, with the pulse audio server
[02:54] <jmadero> every time I install I get pulse also
[02:54] <jmadero> ohh
[02:54] <jmadero> gotcha
[02:54] <fearful> RHorse, nothing happens with aplay
[02:54] <jmadero> tritium, do you know anything about USB sound cards?
[02:54] <RHorse> the output might tell you what hwi you're using
[02:54] <jmadero> I'm getting a tad bit frustrated
[02:54] <tritium> jmadero: nope, sorry
[02:54] <jmadero> damn
[02:54] <jmadero> thanks
[02:54] <FloodBot3> jmadero: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:55] <mlbarnes> Here is a post of my error and what I need help with. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1083884
[02:55] <fearful> RHorse, there is no output
[02:56] <archer> ok, IRC is a new thing for me, but i'm trying to find help getting a tv tuner card to work, anyone knowledgeable on the topic?
[02:56] <tonsofpcs> archer: #v4l
[02:56] <jmadero> archer, what card?
[02:56] <storbeck> !tv
[02:56] <RHorse> you tried playing a .wav file?
[02:56] <archer> it's a hauppauge HVR-1600
[02:56] <kb3ien> not having much love from kde or gnome on the g4/800 laptop. Any recomened distro for that hardware?
[02:56] <fearful> RHorse, yes, well as I said I'll live with the sound distortion just the buttons I need them back
[02:57] <fearful> RHorse, they are trying to work when I press the mute button it tries to mute I see the window with the sound muted but theres still sound
[02:57] <jmadero> kb3ien, what's the problem?
[02:57] <tritium> archer: check both the linuxtv.org page, and the mythtv wiki page, both specific to your card
[02:57] <fearful> RHorse, same for up/down volume
[02:57] <Githlar> I have a bit of a predicament here. I'm trying to set up my home folder inside some kind of encrypted container (probably using TrueCrypt), however I want to have some kind of growing container (instead of a fixed-size container). Does anybody know of any way to pull this off?
[02:57] <kb3ien> many of the apps dont load, neither Firefox nor .piphany work out the box.
[02:58] <Githlar> Or if I could encrypt my entire FS that would be cool too =)
[02:58] <linny1> Githlar: wouldnt it be easyer to encrypt tthe whole partition ?
[02:58] <RHorse> fearful: if you're brave, reinstall alsa and pulseaudio
[02:58] <archer> tritium: i've checked them pretty thoroughly, and i've been on a few other forums and sites, nothing that can help me
[02:58] <fearful> RHorse, what do you mean brave?
[02:58] <detrate> is there a way to reset my mouse from terminal?  I've misaligned my axis when I tried to drag and drop an opengl window when a game was loading
[02:58] <kb3ien> kde failed completely, but gnome at least starts most of the environment ok.
[02:58] <linny1> Githlar: you can encrypt the whole computer apart from /boot
[02:58] <fearful> RHorse, something might break?
[02:58] <tritium> archer: did you see the pages *specific* to your card?
[02:58] <Aqui1a> Hello. I have a simple question: does WoW work well on Ubuntu?
[02:58] <mattgyver83> What does dpkg --configure -a do??
[02:59] <RHorse> yea!
[02:59] <Githlar> linny1: Hm... So just move /boot to another partition and encrypt the whole thing?
[02:59] <jmadero> Aqui1a, I don't like that game but supposedly it works better in ubuntu than in Windows
[02:59] <tritium> mattgyver83: configure all pending packages that need it
[02:59] <archer> tritium: yes, as much as possible, a lot of them were broken links though, and i couldn't find the new pages, if they exist
[02:59] <detrate> haha, restarting the game fixed it :)
[02:59] <linny1> Githlar: /boot is allready a separate partition
[02:59] <mattgyver83> tritium thanks
[02:59] <Githlar> linny1: Why would I even need /boot as I'd probably be using the TrueCrypt MBR.
[02:59] <kitche> Aqui1a: look at winehq appDb it tells you it works
[02:59] <Githlar> linny: /boot is not separate on my setup.
[02:59] <Aqui1a> It doesn't seem to be working
[03:00] <fearful> RHorse, how to re-install them?
[03:00] <kb3ien> kde (metapkg) has 6 broken depenencies in 8.10 dist-upgrade didnt help.
[03:00] <jmadero> I've seen tests between Windows and Ubuntu where Windows shows 65-80 frames per second, Ubuntu 90-100
[03:00] <linny1> Githlar: why use truecrypt the encyption software is built into ubuntu
[03:00] <linny1> linny1: just use the alt install cd
[03:01] <RHorse> apt-get reinstall alsa-base
[03:01] <fearful> RHorse, reinstall invalid operatio
[03:01] <fearful> n
[03:03] <storbeck> apt-get --reinstall alsa-base
[03:04] <kb3ien> what repository is kdeedu >] 4.1.1 in?
[03:04] <kb3ien> i'd benefit from something like http://pkgsrc.se for ubuntu.
[03:04] <RHorse> apt-get --reinstall install ...
[03:04] <zch> any idea why mail() function from php would suddenly stop working after upgrade? everything is configured normally (running plesk)  but mail() acts like it sends mail whilst actualy nothing happens
[03:05] <zch> hAlp
[03:05] <jhonnyboy> Hello does anyone know how to use Wine? I am having trouble installing software...
[03:05] <mosfet_wow> i just installed it for the first time last night
[03:05] <cipherSimian> jhonnyboy: what are you trying to do exactly?
[03:05] <archer> jhonnyboy: i've used wine to some level, what are you trying to do?
[03:06] <jhonnyboy> I am trying to install Visual Basic Express.
[03:06] <cipherSimian> jhonnyboy: okay, so you have an installer .exe
[03:06] <cipherSimian> ?
[03:06] <jhonnyboy> when i click on the .exe and ask to open with Wine. It gives me the error:  Unable to find a volume for extration. Please verify that you have proper permissions.
[03:06] <storbeck> zch: Have you checked the mail logs/queue?
[03:07] <Dr_Sneese> I have this really annoying pointer that I don't know how to get rid of. It only shows up when loading, but no matter what theme I pick it's still there, and I can't delete the pointer theme from customize appearances.
[03:07] <Dr_Sneese> Assistance?
[03:07] <zeta33> hmm alsaconf tells me no supported PnP or PCI card found even though I clearly built in Intel_HDA_INTEl in the kernel
[03:07] <jhonnyboy> cipherSimian: and i can't even mount any of my local disks now, this is weird.
[03:08] <aaahhh> anyone use the ati fglrx 9.2 proprietary driver
[03:08] <werdnum> Hi, how do I drop back to a terminal from my login prompt? ctrl-alt-f1 doesn't seem to work, but ctrl-alt-escape does seem to restart X
[03:08] <Mox`> if I have 2 netcard and are rangeing 2 different ip's, can I just use host name { hardware ethernet mac; fixed-address blabla; } and then i work on both eth1 and eth2 where i'm running dhcpd?
[03:08] <werdnum> s/login prompt/window manager login prompt/
[03:08] <mosfet_wow> jhonnyboy do you need to run the wine cfg still?
[03:09] <jhonnyboy> mosfet_wow: i have never ran it. What am i suppose to do there?
[03:09] <jhonnyboy> Everything in the configuration has the default settings.
[03:09] <mosfet_wow> umm let me check the command, it creates the C: drive that wine uses once you run it
[03:09] <archer> jhonnyboy: do you know what version of Wine you are using?
[03:10] <kitche> werdnum: ctrl+alt+f1 then login you might need to go to f2
[03:10] <french> can someone point me in the direction for setting up wireless, have a broadcom card i think
[03:10] <jhonnyboy> archer: I am using Wine 1.0.1
[03:10] <mosfet_wow> lol just type winecfg into the terminal
[03:10] <storbeck> !wifi | french
[03:11] <mgolisch> wineprefixcreate ?
[03:11] <mosfet_wow> just winecfg should do it
[03:11] <jhonnyboy> I know how to get inside the configuration.
[03:11] <archer> jhonnyboy: using the same version i've never had any issues running .exe files of any sort.   also, the default settings of wine should be pretty much all you need
[03:11] <jhonnyboy> archer: Thanks archer.
[03:11] <jhonnyboy> archer: Why do you think i am getting that error message?
[03:12] <jhonnyboy> archer: It can't find a volume for extraction, and Ubuntu isn't letting me mount any of my disks all of the sudden.
[03:12] <Alex_21> Hey, all. I need desperate help. I'm nearly at Step 9 of "https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/13899" but I have no idea how to mount another hard disk I don't know the name of
[03:12] <Alex_21> Please
[03:12] <zch> why oh why oh why would mail() from php stop working and therefore make zillion contact forms on sites not working and therefore making my boss gonna hang me upside down
[03:13] <mosfet_wow> jhonnyboy do you have the .wine directory in your home directory?
[03:13] <jhonnyboy> mosfet_wow: Yes.
[03:13] <storbeck> zch: /join #php
[03:13] <mib_ykaad3> the ubuntu mainline kernel builds can be used on any release of ubuntu? even 8.04?
[03:13] <mib_ykaad3> i'm talking about these - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelMainlineBuilds
[03:14] <Dr_Sneese> I have this really annoying pointer that I don't know how to get rid of. It only shows up when loading, but no matter what theme I pick it's still there, and I can't delete the pointer theme from customize appearances.
[03:14] <archer> jhonnyboy: that's pretty strange, least i've never had that problem.  treating the two problems as seperate, i'd make sure the .exe file is in a directory all users have read and write privlages too
[03:14] <mosfet_wow> jhonnyboy do you have drive_c too?
[03:14] <mosfet_wow> inside that .wine directory?
[03:14] <jhonnyboy> mosfet_wow: Yes i do.
[03:14] <archer> jhonnyboy: as far as the mounting issue, i've never heard of that, first thing i'd do though is restart.
[03:15] <mosfet_wow> are you running the install exe off the CD?
[03:15] <jhonnyboy> archer: Should i mount them before i try to install anything?
[03:15] <Dr_Sneese> :/
[03:15] <jhonnyboy> archer: Also for some odd reason, when i do a warm boot from Ubuntu, my computer freezes at the BIOS/POST. This doesn't happen when i warm boot from XP though.
[03:16] <jhonnyboy> archer: could that be Grub?
[03:16] <archer> jhonnyboy:  i wouldn't think so, grub should treat everything equally.
[03:17] <Keith_M_> I have the same problem
[03:17] <jhonnyboy> Keith_M_: the warm boot problem?
[03:17] <Keith_M_> yes
[03:17] <jhonnyboy> Keith_M_: It's very weird.
[03:18] <Keith_M_> it just sits there while the cursor flickers
[03:18] <jhonnyboy> I have to shut down my machine in order to restart from Ubuntu
[03:18] <opera> who can give me a sample about 'whereis command"  and''whatis command"
[03:18] <Keith_M_> exactly
[03:18] <Nicark>
[03:18] <Keith_M_> opera: you mean "which"?
[03:18] <jhonnyboy> We'll im going to reboot, mount the drives, and then try the install.
[03:18] <jhonnyboy> If not i don't know what else to try
[03:19] <jhonnyboy> Thanks for all your help everyone. I should be back on to give you guys an update in a few.
[03:19] <GeffIsLegend> anyone mind telling me why steam wont startup on my Ubuntu?
[03:19] <kitche> GeffIsLegend: are you using wine?
[03:19] <opera> Keith_ whereis command—Returns the location of the command and its man page.
[03:20] <GeffIsLegend> yes im currently using wine, when i doubleclick my steam icon on the desktop it saying starting up but nothing ever happens
[03:20] <Alex_21> How are drives listed in the installer. I forgot to check which was drive A and which was Drive B, and now I need to know
[03:20] <Alex_21> Please
[03:21] <kitche> GeffIsLegend: I suggest looking at the winehq appdb to make sure you have it configured all correctly including the fonts that need to be installed among other things
[03:21] <GeffIsLegend> okay thanks ill look at it
[03:21] <opera> !whereis
[03:21] <french> i am new to ubuntu, (used fedora) anyways trying to get my wifi card working, from this page http://ubuntu.cafuego.net/ i loaded those lines it said in teh source.list, but now what do i do to install it?
[03:21] <opera> GNU
[03:21] <opera> !GNU
[03:22] <runey> I'm trying to run freenx and enlightenment on Ubuntu 8.10
[03:22] <GeffIsLegend> winehq appdb isnt working for me for some reason :-/
[03:22] <runey> no matter what settings i try in the client, the most i can get is an xterm
[03:23] <kitche> GeffIsLegend: yeah seems down the mysql server must have broke
[03:23] <GeffIsLegend> ooo lame :p
[03:23] <kitche> GeffIsLegend: seems like to many people are trying to use it right now
[03:23] <GeffIsLegend> hah makes since
[03:23] <storbeck> GeffIsLegend: use WineDoors
[03:23] <GeffIsLegend> what is that if i might ask?
[03:24] <Dr_Sneese> well darn
[03:24] <runey> Anyone here had any experience with freenx + enlightenment, or freenx in general?
[03:24] <storbeck> It's a program for wine that installs a lot of 'common' apps. It will automatically install Steam for you
[03:24] <storbeck> And it will install correctly ;)
[03:24] <GeffIsLegend> oh okay thanks ^^ ill try it out now hah, should i uninstall the steam i have now ?
[03:24] <Alex_21> Thanks for the help
[03:25] <Alex_21> Good night
[03:25] <linny1> runey: i use freenx with openbox but it just works never had problems
[03:25] <mgolisch> storbeck: there is winedoors and especialy for games there is playonlinux
[03:25] <Aquahallic> evenin' folks
[03:25] <mgolisch> storbeck: maybe one of them can install steam
[03:26] <fearful> RHorse, didn't work
[03:26] <Zykotic> GeffIsLegend, actually Winedoor will install steam to a different local (but uninstalling would free up the disk space)
[03:26] <runey> linny1: which client
[03:26] <Aquahallic> did something get screwed with firefox watching Youtube with a recent update?
[03:26] <GeffIsLegend> oh okay thanks Zykotic im going to do that now
[03:26] <storbeck> mgolisch: I wasn't the one with the problem ;)
[03:26] <tritium> !away | Andre_Gondim-afk
[03:26] <mgolisch> storbeck: yeah just noticed that
[03:26] <mgolisch> :)
[03:27] <mattgyver83> when you use nano, how do you press 'enter'?
[03:27] <linny1> runey: what do you mean ? i use nxserver with nx client
[03:28] <n2diy> mattgyver83, as usual, but many of the commands don't use enter, but ctrl+X
[03:31] <exodus_ms> I'm using gnome with no visual effects, I used devilspie to configure my terminal to be borderless with no window decorations etc... Is there a way I can use develspie to create the same effect with xchat?
[03:31] <runey> linny1: the nomachine client?
[03:31] <linny1> runey:yes
[03:32] <RHorse> fearful: same as before?
[03:32] <fearful> RHorse, the buttons sound I don't care
[03:32] <mgolisch> exodus_ms: why not?
[03:32] <mgolisch> exodus_ms: should work with all windows managed by the windowmanager
[03:33] <RHorse> fearful: there may be a driver for those things that is not loaded. do some Googling
[03:33] <runey> linny1: what settings did you use? + what version of client
[03:33] <fearful> RHorse, but they are working fine just not controling the sound I see the window come up
[03:34] <RHorse> fearful: yes, the driver may need to be reconfigured
[03:34] <exodus_ms> mgolisch, I tried to create a xchat.ds in ~/.devilspie I basically used the same configuration I used on the terminal.ds file, but after I logged off and back on, it did not work
[03:34] <mgolisch> exodus_ms: check xchat using xprop and see if the used windowclass or whatever identifier you used is realy right
[03:35] <fearful> RHorse, how can I check which driver? I've never had any problems with drivers everything worked fine
[03:36] <RHorse> fearful: google ubuntu hp laptop audio buttons or something
[03:36] <exodus_ms> mgolisch, I need to check the    (is (application_name) "xchat")  and    (is (window_name) "xchat") ? ok will give it a try, thanks
[03:38] <The_Laughing_Man> hello all
[03:38] <Wildburn> hello
[03:38] <mgolisch> exodus_ms: check using xprop if the properties used as an identifier in the devilspie script are realy right, it might not be xchat but something else
[03:38] <ASUSBlue> hello room looking for some help with compiz the burn effect wont work it worked a few times then all of sudden stoped working need some advice
[03:39] <exodus_ms> mgolisch, ok
[03:39] <Wildburn> Is there anyone that could help me out with setting up xorg.conf with the whole Nvidia 96.43.xx drivers?
[03:39] <corinth> I'm trying to copy all of my settings files and folders from my home directory to a backup drive I have. Will   cp -r ~/.* do the trick?
[03:39] <werdnum> hey
[03:39] <werdnum> so I'm running Ubuntu with a screen through S-Video as its display
[03:40] <keithclark> Boy, the participation level in this irc is just so good.  kudos to all who help!  I think it must be unprecedented, no?
[03:40] <mgolisch> exodus_ms: like open a terminal type xprop, then click on the xchat window, it should display all the properties in the terminal
[03:40] <werdnum> command-line stuff works fine, but when I start X, I get the display tiled in black and white across the screen 4 1/2 times
[03:40] <crdlb> Wildburn: what do you need to set?
[03:40] <Zykotic> ASUSBlue, what vs of ubuntu are you running?  i love the burn effect, but it doesn't seem to be in 8.10?
[03:40] <werdnum> It's an Australian TV set to NTSC-M in BIOS (which it *should* be compatible with, PAL gives a similar thing except flickering)
[03:40] <abc123> =
[03:41] <Dr_Sneese> I have this really annoying pointer that I don't know how to get rid of. It only shows up when loading, but no matter what theme I pick it's still there, and I can't delete the pointer theme from customize appearances.
[03:41] <crdlb> Zykotic: to get the burn effect, you have to enable Animation Addons now
[03:41] <werdnum> I improved the situation by setting refresh rate to 50 Hz
[03:41] <Wildburn> crdlb, not sure, im installing the glx from synaptic along with kernel source, and I get a glx cant initialize error in xorg.0.log and a black screen, reboot in recovery, run xfix, and get normal xorg.conf, so not sure what needs to go in to fix it, tried alot of stuff around the web but still black screen on it all
[03:41] <exodus_ms> mgolisch, thank you was just reading the man page for xprop, got lost somewhere between "A window may be selected in one of four ways. First, if the desired window is the root window...."
[03:41] <mezy> i need help
[03:41] <crdlb> Wildburn: what GPU model?
[03:41] <raevol> hey guys, if i am using slim as a login manager, and i want to start a program when it starts on boot, where should i put the commands for that? is there a place to start programs when x starts?
[03:42] <Wildburn> geforce 2 go
[03:42] <jmpsoftware> hi to everybody
[03:42] <crdlb> Wildburn: heh, I have one of those
[03:42] <mezy> hi jmpsoftware
[03:42] <crdlb> Wildburn: ended up just using 'nv' though
[03:42] <Wildburn> yeah its a tc-1000, figured it switch from winblows to xubuntu finally, and got everything working but nvidia
[03:43] <Wildburn> crdlb, so no 3d accel?
[03:43] <Tulga> someone know live tv streaming to DSS solution on ubuntu?
[03:43] <Intrepid> I can't drag and drop files from file roller to nautilus. How can I fix this?
[03:43] <Zykotic> crdlb, thanks so much :)  that's awsome.  been looking for that switch somewhere.  ccsm is great, but there are almost too many options.
[03:43] <exodus_ms> mgolisch, ok I have WM_CLASS(STRING) = "xchat", "Xchat"  In the script I was using "xchat"
[03:44] <crdlb> Wildburn: correct; nvidia-glx-96 worked last I tried, but it had some weird issues; like on the first X start after reboot, you'd get a screwed up screen and had to hit ctrl-alt-bksp to make it work
[03:44] <rwparris2> is there a way to get my startup apps to start in the 'right' workspace?
[03:44] <rwparris2> so I don't have to 'move to workspace right' everytime I boot up?
[03:44] <fallore> can anyone either direct me towards a guide for or help me set up samba (making files and folders accessible to windows comps on the network) through SSH?
[03:44] <The_Laughing_Man> does anyone here have gdoomsday?
[03:44] <crdlb> Zykotic: not just almost :)
[03:44] <Wildburn> crdlb, I never even get a wierd screen, just black screen, no mouse pointer or anything
[03:45] <omg911> so just got the new release setup and import my old files over but i notice it no longer use my desktop... my home dir is the desktop. is this normal now?
[03:45] <crdlb> Wildburn: make sure that the linux-generic package is installed (if you're using the generic kernel)
[03:45] <Zykotic> crdlb, i'm actually letting compiz draw my backgrounds right now, so i can have 4 different backgrounds (but i gotta say giving up the desktop is hard)
[03:45] <The_Laughing_Man> because when i go to pick armor up it wont show up in the hud
[03:46] <jhonnyboy> Hello everyone.
[03:47] <jhonnyboy> Got the drives to mount, but still no Wine progress :(
[03:47] <The_Laughing_Man> wine?
[03:47] <The_Laughing_Man> did you install it via synaptics package manager?
[03:47] <jhonnyboy> Yes.
[03:47] <archer> jhonnyboy:  what exactly are you trying to run/install?
[03:48] <mezy> is there a way to replace the lock file located in var\lib\dpkg? there is something wrong with the one i have and have problems using synaptics package manager.
[03:48] <jhonnyboy> archer: Microsoft Visual Basic Express Edition
[03:48] <The_Laughing_Man> ohh
[03:48] <jhonnyboy> archer: I am trying to install it.
[03:48] <Wildburn> crldb out of curiousity, what other kernel would be installed besides generic? it looks like linux-generic is installed, same with linux-generic-headers, but linux complete generic kernel isnt installed
[03:48] <jhonnyboy> archer: i have the vbsetup.exe on my desktop/
[03:48] <Wildburn> mezy have you tried apt-get
[03:48] <The_Laughing_Man> Jhonyboy: you should use the browse C drive, then find the cd and run the install.exe or whatever
[03:49] <wolfwalker> I have no idea what room to ask this in, so I'll ask it here
[03:49] <crdlb> Wildburn: -server, -rt, -386. -generic is the right one though -- you can check which one you're using with 'uname -r'
[03:49] <wolfwalker> What's a good CAD program for Ubuntu?
[03:49] <wolfwalker> Or what room would I go to to ask said question?
[03:49] <archer> jhonnyboy: i'm not familiar with it, but just an idea, everything i've run so far i've run off of a cd.    wine might for some reason like it more if it is on a cd, just for kicks, i'd try putting the exe file on a cd and installing from that.
[03:49] <mezy> Wildburn: not yet. im new to ubuntu, and im just starting to understand someone this
[03:49] <eseven73> Where do I put bash aliases? Do i have to reboot or something because I put them in /home/eseven73/.bashrc and they don;t work
[03:49] <n2diy> wolfwalker, what flavor of CAD, for electronics go with gEDA
[03:50] <EtFb> jhonnyboy: I'm coming in mid-conversation, and maybe you're just installing VB for laughs and to see how WINE is going... but if you're planning to do some visual programming on Linux, I recommend Gambas, which isn't quite VB compatible but is very good...
[03:50] <porter1> wolfwalker, there are a bunch of 2d ones for drafting
[03:50] <The_Laughing_Man> actually archer, i have installed alot of stuff through just placing .exe inside the windows folder
[03:50] <mgolisch> The_Laughing_Man: you a hacker?
[03:50] <Wildburn> mezy, try sudo apt-get update from terminal
[03:50] <porter1> Otherwise, there aren't any 3d ones that I know of
[03:50] <jhonnyboy> EtFb: Thanks, i actually need to VB not because i like it much, but because of school.
[03:50] <archer> ya, i imagine that should work, but i'm just brainstorming at this point.
[03:50] <Zykotic> eseven73, did you restart bash with a new command "$ bash"?
[03:50] <The_Laughing_Man> mgolisch: Yes and No
[03:50] <wolfwalker> n2diy porter1 not sure.  I'm asking for someone else, and he hasn't told me yet.
[03:50] <ASUSBlue> need help burn effect in compiz is not working all other effects work fine
[03:51] <eseven73> Zykotic: nope
[03:51] <wolfwalker> n2diy porter1 mechanical
[03:51] <fallore> can anyone either direct me towards a guide for or help me set up samba (making files and folders accessible to windows comps on the network) through SSH?
[03:51] <mgolisch> you like gis or is your nick not related to that?
[03:51] <The_Laughing_Man> mgolisch: I do a fair amount of programming
[03:51] <The_Laughing_Man> yeah i like gits
[03:51] <EtFb> jhonnyboy: Ah well, good luck getting it to run then.  I'd always just go with VMWare Server and a virtual machine running Windoze, personally.  Windows 2000 is quite usable on even an older machine.
[03:51] <Wildburn> crldb: yeah, uname -r returns 2.6.27-12-generic so I guess thats right
[03:51] <mgolisch> still didnt see that compilatory movie of the first tv series
[03:51] <mgolisch> :)
[03:52] <mgolisch> i wonder if itzs worth watzching
[03:52] <mezy> Wildburnm whoa, what happened?
[03:52] <eseven73> Zykotic:  ty that worked :)
[03:52] <The_Laughing_Man> You mean Solid State Society?
[03:52] <jhonnyboy> EtFb: so you recommend i just run a Virtual Machine? Sounds resonable.
[03:52] <kitche> !offtopic | mgolisch The_Laughing_Man
[03:52] <The_Laughing_Man> i haven't seen the new movie
[03:52] <Mox`> hmm i get this error when I start my computer: kernel panic not syncing vfs...? how to fix?
[03:52] <calvinyong> Hi, can anyone teach me on how do i do a network restart
[03:52] <Othor> Jhonnyboy: i think your best bet would be to install Windows XP in a VM and run VS.Net from that
[03:52] <Wildburn> mezy? in terminal you typed 'sudo apt-get update' without quotes?
[03:52] <jhonnyboy> Othor: Yes i concur.
[03:52] <mgolisch> kitche: srry, ill behave now
[03:52] <mgolisch> :)
[03:53] <wolfwalker> Anyone know what would be a good mechanical CAD program for Ubuntu?
[03:53] <jhonnyboy> Is VMware a good choice to run Windows games from it? or would Wine be better in that case?
[03:53] <kitche> calvinyong: well there is a few ways to do it either using the script or doing it by hand
[03:53] <mgolisch> The_Laughing_Man: yeah, i guess ill just watch it
[03:53] <mgolisch> :)
[03:53] <Wildburn> mezy: it should refresh synaptic so its not locking files
[03:53] <wolfwalker> Got a friend who just went all-Linux and is looking for one.
[03:53] <Othor> Jhonnyboy: i like VirtualBox
[03:53] <EtFb> jhonnyboy: Hell, yeah.  You don't want to trust WINE to run development software like VB (or Delphi, or Visual Studio).  It's not there yet.  May never be.
[03:53] <Wildburn> wolfwalker: I believe autocad has a linux version
[03:53] <calvinyong> kitche: is there any commands to run a network restart ?
[03:53] <jhonnyboy> Othor: I have Windows 7 Beta on VBox right now.
[03:53] <mgolisch> Othor: yeah virtualbox isnt bad, only thing that drives me crazy is its horrible network configration stuff
[03:54] <mezy> Wildburn: hmm.... thanks. i'll see if my problem was solved by updating a few things
[03:54] <tritium> wolfwalker: qcad, but it's only 2D
[03:54] <mgolisch> its a pain to setup hostinterface based networking
[03:54] <jhonnyboy> EtFb: So what is Wine good for? I'll just run it off Vbox
[03:54] <EtFb> jhonnyboy: VMWare Server is free (as in beer, not as in speech) and very good.
[03:54] <The_Laughing_Man> wolfwalker: did you try Qcad?
[03:54] <Othor> mgolisch: the new virsion of VBox has fixed most of that imo
[03:54] <_VIM_> Zykotic: errr I thought it worked, but now if i try to edit ~/.bashrc it just goes back to how it was before i edited it
[03:54] <jhonnyboy> loll
[03:54] <EtFb> jhonnyboy: WINE is fine for most stuff, but compilers and debuggers really stress any OS.
[03:54] <rwparris2> is there a way to get my startup apps to start in the 'right' workspace? so I don't have to 'move to workspace right' everytime I boot up?
[03:54] <doodle77> mgolisch: get the newer closed source version
[03:54] <archer> EtFb: just curious, why do you say not to trust Wine with development software?
[03:54] <tritium> The_Laughing_Man: that's what I recommended to him, if he only need 2D.
[03:54] <Wildburn> wolfwalker: google cad linux click first link, theres about 50 programs there, give a few a try and find one that works for you
[03:55] <Zykotic> jhonnyboy, you can't really run games in VMWare (to my knowledge) Virtualbox 2.1 does have limited 3D support, but it's nowhere near able to play 3D games - it can play Pinball pretty decently (which wine doesn't really do) but your best bet on running MS games in Linux is Wine for sure :)  good luck.
[03:55] <mgolisch> doodle77: i use vmware workstation now
[03:55] <fallore> can anyone either direct me towards a guide for or help me set up samba (making files and folders accessible to windows comps on the network) through SSH?
[03:55] <kitche> calvinyong: yes ifconfig down && ifconfig up && dhclient <device> that is if you use dhcp
[03:55] <calvinyong> kitche: thanks alot
[03:55] <jhonnyboy> Zykotic: Thanks :)
[03:55] <EtFb> archer: Development software generally = programming language compilers and debuggers.  They push a system much more than word processors, games, etc.  WINE isn't a 100% perfect emulation of Windows, and 100% is generally what you need.
[03:55] <jhonnyboy> Thank you everyone for your outstanding support :)
[03:56] <jhonnyboy> Goodnight everyone.
[03:56] <The_Laughing_Man> Does anyone know if you can create a first person shooter in pygame?
[03:56] <wolfwalker> Thankee all who gave suggestions.  My friend has tried qcad, and it seems he has gone down the google path. Oh well, I tried.........
[03:56] <EtFb> jhonnyboy: I agree with Zykotic - VMWare is not so good for games, mainly cos the video drivers are very vanilla.
[03:56] <The_Laughing_Man> or with pygame rather
[03:56] <archer> EtFb:  I would agree on that, but wouldn't you be adding stress just running an emulation?  I admit i'm not really knowledgeable on the topic.
[03:56] <Zykotic> _VIM_, are you saving the changes?
[03:57] <eseven73> yeah
[03:57] <Wildburn> wolfwalker: there are versions of autocad and similar that are not free for linux but are just like windows versions
[03:57] <EtFb> archer: Different kind of stress.  You're stressing the emulation, ie demanding that it do things exactly right.  The stress on your system (ie CPU, memory) is a secondary consideration.
[03:58] <eseven73> Zykotic: nevermind i got it :)
[03:58] <archer> EtFb: ok, thanks, just curious.
[03:59] <EtFb> archer: Of the four options (run in a VM; dual boot; run in an emulator; use native Linux software) I find the VM solution works best for Delphi, my Windows-only language of choice.
[04:00] <mezy> Wildburn: i have a new problem. i couldn't install something called ''linux-image-2.6.27-7-generic'' and an error about sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg received a segmetation fault.
[04:00] <Zykotic> archer, if your cpu supports the virtualization extensions, VMs can come close to running at native speeds
[04:01] <Zykotic> archer, both kvm and virtualbox support that, vmware i'm not sure
[04:01] <Wildburn> mezy, try sudo dpkg --clear-avail , then try sudo apt-get update
[04:01] <The_Laughing_Man> Is anyone here knowledgeable with Python and Pygame?
[04:01] <archer> I don't know virtual machines, all i've ever run is wine, if i were to use a virtual machine, would i be able to use Windows drivers for in this case my tvcard?
[04:02] <mezy> Wildburn: sure
[04:02] <archer> even if i had to then use a windows program to view the tv video
[04:02] <Wildburn> archer: yes you basically install windows from a windows cd into the vm, and then run that install with all windows drivers
[04:02] <Zykotic> archer, i doubt any virtualization could support a tvcard at all :(  what kinda tvcard is it?  there is good linux support for several tv cards
[04:03] <archer> wildburn: thanks.   is there a way for me to use my dual-boot XP partition in a VM?
[04:03] <sprinkmeier_> Wildburn, archer , not sure that'll work with a card. it might work with a USB dongle
[04:03] <Wildburn> Zykotic:Ive run tvcards in VMware before, it just depends on what level of hardware access you allow it
[04:03] <sprinkmeier_> archer, not really. The 'hadware' between the two is too different, XP will keep wanting to be reactvated.
[04:04] <archer> Zykotic, it's a hauppauge hvr-1600.  i've had some weird issues with it and i've spent HOURS trying to get it to work on this computer
[04:04] <Zykotic> Wildburn, really, wow Virtualbox does NOT support that!  USB stuff works OK in VB thought
[04:04] <Wildburn> archer: no in a virtualization you are basically using a giant swap file as the drive, and in the swap file you have windows installed
[04:04] <fallore_> what command can i enter through ssh to see if the computer i am connected to has samba installed?
[04:04] <Wildburn> Zykotic: well the flip side is VMware costs a hell of a lot more
[04:05] <archer> Wildburn: ok, thanks.
[04:05] <n2diy> fallore, samba -v?
[04:05] <EtFb> Wildburn: VMWare Server is zero-cost (ie free of charge, though not free/open source )
[04:05] <Zykotic> archer, i've got one of those working on an 8.04 htpc box for my mom.  i have to manually install the driver after every kernel update, PITA, but support is scheduled for a future time :)
[04:05] <darkhelmetlive> has anybody tried to compile ruby-1.9.1-p0 on 8.10? it's giving me nothing but headaches and the #ruby-lang folks don't have any ideas
[04:05] <fallore_> n2diy: command not found, that means no right?
[04:05] <archer> if anyone could help me with the tv card i'd be much obliged.    Zykotic, i can't FIND the driver, all i can find are broken links.
[04:05] <sprinkmeier_> Zykotic, AFAIK USB is 'passed through' to the guest OS, so the guest can load 'drivers'. (PCI) Cards need to be vritualised and presented to the guest (e.g. whatever NIC you actually have, the guest sees a virtual NIC) so unless the host supports the card the guest is SOL.
[04:06] <Wildburn> EtFb: really? used to cost money, havent used it in a while
[04:06] <fallore_> n2diy: i tried sudo apt-get install samba and it told me it was already the newest version, so i guess it's installed.
[04:06] <n2diy> fallore, thath would be my guess, I'm not real familiar with Samba
[04:06] <The_Laughing_Man> Does anyone know if theres a flash substitute on ubuntu?
[04:06] <Zykotic> archer, lol - i had the same problem, gimmie a second will take a look
[04:06] <n2diy> fallore, maybe it isn't running, I'd check the man page.
[04:06] <|kush|> anyone install ubuntu inside windows?
[04:06] <archer> thanks
[04:06] <mezy> man, i thought ubuntu would 'just work'.
[04:06] <EtFb> Wildburn: They made quite a splash with VMWare Player, which is kind of like Acrobate Reader but with VMs instead of PDFs.  Then they made VMWare Server free, without much fanfare.
[04:07] <The_Laughing_Man> mezy: ubuntu does just work, unlike many other distros
[04:07] <EtFb> The_Laughing_Man: Have you enabled Medibuntu?  You can just install the standard Flash.
[04:07] <Wildburn> EtFb: ahh yeah thats right, I recall now
[04:07] <AlexMax> Hi there, I"m having trouble with running Ubuntu 8.10 inside virtualbox.  After I update ubuntu, anytime i reboot thereafter, I can't get themes to work.
[04:07] <AlexMax> It uses the default ugly as sin "raleigh" theme
[04:07] <Wildburn> I feel you mezy, cant get this damn geforce 2 go to actually initialize 3d accel
[04:07] <The_Laughing_Man> etfb: im talking about development not playback
[04:07] <AlexMax> unless I load the theme manager
[04:07] <Zykotic> sprinkmeier_, that's why i was amazed that vmware could do it, it would need a driver for tvcards!  VB 2.1 supports 64bit guests on 32bit hosts - that boggles my mind as well.
[04:07] <AlexMax> Then it goes back to human
[04:08] <EtFb> The_Laughing_Man: Most of the time it does, and more often than others... but it's not perfect yet.
[04:08] <pHreaksYcle> AlexMan: reinstall
[04:08] <AlexMax> Why does this happen?  I've been able to replicate the bug twice now
[04:08] <AlexMax> pHreaksYcle: Done so, it's done the theme bug both times
[04:08] <The_Laughing_Man> etfb: Medibuntu you say?
[04:08] <pHreaksYcle> AlexMan: that's odd as all hell.
[04:08] <mezy> The_Laughing_Man: im just frustrated with this
[04:08] <Wildburn> Zykotic: Vmware is a bit different though in that it can actually take full control of hardware from the host OS
[04:08] <EtFb> The_Laughing_Man: How do you mean?  With Player you couldn't make new VMs, but you could use them (ie "play" them).
[04:09] <pHreaksYcle> AlexMax: whenever ive had problems with themes being wonkey, it's because of graphics issues, every time
[04:09] <EtFb> The_Laughing_Man: Yep, google it.  Follow the repository instructions to add keys and entries and all that stuff, then use aptitude or apt-get or whatever.
[04:09] <pHreaksYcle> AlexMax: may want to check that sector
[04:09] <The_Laughing_Man> etfb: Its more like adobe flash 5 or the newer cs4
[04:09] <mezy> The_Laughing_Man: im just frustrated with this 'unpacking replacement linux-image-2.6.27-7-generic' thing/ sorry, cant type in the dark
[04:10] <Wildburn> mezy: what are you trying to install that you need to unpack the linux iamge?
[04:10] <EtFb> The_Laughing_Man: Exactly.  If you already have a VMWare VM made by someone else, you use Player and you effectively have yourself a brand new computer inside a box.  If you want to make your own, you use Server and it's pretty full-features.  Gorgeous piece of software.  (I'm a fan; can you tell?)
[04:10] <fallore_> i need help configuring samba through SSH, is anyone experienced with it?
[04:10] <The_Laughing_Man> mezy: How can you not type in the dark? i KNOW where all my keys are
[04:11] <The_Laughing_Man> etfb: alright ill check it out, thanks.
[04:11] <sprinkmeier_> fallore, ssh -X, the nuse GUI tools (if you're familiar with them)
[04:11] <Wildburn> mezy: that image is unpacking the actual linux kernel, you shouldnt need to be doing that
[04:11] <fallore_> i am not, sprinkmeier_, what are they?
[04:11] <mezy> The_Laughing_Man: im trying as hard as i can. my dog is messing with me also
[04:11] <sprinkmeier_> fallore, neither am I, I use the files :-)
[04:11] <The_Laughing_Man> mezy: uhh yeah hes right dont do that
[04:11] <EtFb> mezy: On the internet, nobody knows your dog is a dog...
[04:11] <sug1> how can i change the premission of a dir to my user???  it's currently set to "nobody"
[04:11] <sprinkmeier_> fallore, but I haven't some much samba in ages... a bit rusty. What do you need to set up?
[04:12] <Zykotic> archer, it's the v4l driver that you need to manually download / compile / install http://www.linuxtv.org/v4lwiki/index.php/Main_Page that will get the 1600 working :)  good luck.
[04:12] <Wildburn> lol EtFb
[04:12] <The_Laughing_Man> sugl: edit your fstab file
[04:12] <mezy> Wildburn: its a process that the update manager is doing.
[04:12] <Tully> DCC SEND hugeniggersluts 0 0 0
[04:12] <fallore_> sprinkmeier_: i just need to create a folder that is shared throughout the network/domain that the pc is already on that is as low into root as possible (so that there isn't a long address path).
[04:12] <mezy> Wildburn: im just looking at the details
[04:12] <archer> Zykotic, thanks, maybe i'll have more success now
[04:12] <Wildburn> mezy: really? try rebooting and then just running jockey for updates
[04:12] <The_Laughing_Man> sugl: it should be in /etc/
[04:13] <fallore_> sprinkmeier_: knowing how to edit the smb.conf through ssh would be helpful as well
[04:13] <Wildburn> mezy: is the update manager failing and halting?
[04:13] <sug1> The_Laughing_Man: why would it be in the fstab, it's just one dir i need the change the premission of
[04:14] <AlexMax> pHreaksYcle: Graphics issues?
[04:14] <sprinkmeier_> fallore, fire up your favourite editor (vi, pico) and have a look at the conf file. towards the end there are examples of shared drives, one of those should be suitable to copy/munge/paste
[04:14] <AlexMax> I'm installing this on a virtual machine
[04:14] <mezy> Wildburn: frozen i guess, what is jockey anyway?
[04:14] <fallore_> sprinkmeier_: can't fire up an editor, i'm connected through SSH
[04:14] <sprinkmeier_> sugi, if the directory is a mounted filesystem (i.e. USB drive) then fstab sets the permissions/ownership. If the directory is 'normal' then use chown
[04:14] <pHreaksYcle> AlexMan: yeah, like bad settings, you know. things borked in ur x config w/e
[04:14] <Wildburn> mezy:jockey is the automatic update thing that tells you when new updates are available
[04:15] <sprinkmeier_> fallore, vi is a commans-line editor, so is pico, nano etc... (I believe nano is farly easy to use)
[04:15] <_VIM_> fallore that's why he said vi or pico
[04:15] <fallore_> i didn't understand what he meant but i do now, thanks _VIM_ and sprinkmeier_. i'm looking at it in nano now
[04:16] <mezy>  Wildburn do updates work on a live cd?
[04:16] <AlexMax> pHreaksYcle: then why would my theme come back when i bring up the theme menu
[04:16] <AlexMax> and this is from a CLEAN install
[04:16] <AlexMax> i just update
[04:16] <_VIM_> nano :pppppt!
[04:16] <AlexMax> then install the vbox guest addons
[04:16] <AlexMax> and that's it
[04:16] <Wildburn> mezy:is it an actual cd?
[04:16] <FloodBot1> AlexMax: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:16] <The_Laughing_Man> sugl: whoops, i misread thought you type drv not dir
[04:16] <pHreaksYcle> AlexMax: not sure my man, just telling you my experiences. no need to get hostile
[04:16] <sprinkmeier_> fallore, the other way to do it is to use X tunneling, run "ssh -X username@hostname" and rhen you can start X programs on "hostname" (like gedit etc)
[04:17] <Wildburn> mezy: since you cant write to a cd, things like unpacking the kernel and updating wont work because it cant write the updated kernel to drive
[04:17] <panfist> how can i see what kernel version i have running
[04:17] <AlexMax> pHreaksYcle: Not hostile :)
[04:17] <sug1> The_Laughing_Man: im sorry what did you say. my pidgin crashed on me
[04:17] <mezy> Wildburn: not really, its on a usb. i only asked that because i still see the 'install'  on the desktop
[04:17] <Wildburn> mezy: for that matter not sure if live cd from something like external hard drive would allow updates either
[04:17] <sprinkmeier_> panfist, uname -a
[04:17] <n2diy> panfist, uname
[04:17] <The_Laughing_Man> sugl: whoops, i misread thought you type drv not dir
[04:18] <panfist> what if i want to upgrade my kernel from .26 to .28
[04:18] <Wildburn> mezy:ok usb I know, thats how I usually install mine, it wont write to the drive on a live cd, youd need to actually go ahead and install, either to the flash drive, another flash drive or a hard drive
[04:18] <sug1> The_Laughing_Man: :p
[04:18] <sprinkmeier_> panfist, use your package manager.
[04:19] <rww> panfist: What version of Ubuntu are you using?
[04:19] <archer> Zykotic:  i'm feeling like a bit of an idiot here, but i'm still not able to find it, and all of these links are for me failing...
[04:19] <pHreaksYcle> AlexMax: what theme did you say it defaults to?
[04:19] <maxagaz> how to list all the symbolic links of a directory recursively ?
[04:19] <The_Laughing_Man> sugl: have you tried right clicking the dir then going to properties then permissions?
[04:19] <sug1> The_Laughing_Man: do you know how ot change premission of a dir and all the files within i?
[04:19] <mezy> Wildburn: i wanted to use ubuntu on a usb so i wouldn't have to install it on the hdd.
[04:20] <panfist> i'm actually running lenny... but i'm thinking of going back to ubuntu server. the last two versions of ubuntu gave me problems with raid
[04:20] <Wildburn> mezy: ah then youd actually need to install it to the flash drive, not just run the iso with syslinux or what have you
[04:20] <sprinkmeier_> maxagaz, to do a recursive directory listing use "ls -R" or "find"
[04:20] <Zykotic> archer, tisk tisk first hit of google "v4l download" = http://www.linuxtv.org/repo/
[04:21] <maxagaz> sprinkmeier_ and to get symbolic links ?
[04:21] <Wildburn> mezy:how big is the flash, and do you have another? you could always use the smaller to run the livecd, then install across to the other flash drive
[04:21] <rww> panfist: We don't support Debian here; you'd want to ask in the #debian channel (here or on OFTC) for help with that. As far as Ubuntu goes, the current stable version, Intrepid, has 2.6.27. Jaunty, which comes out in April, will have 2.6.28.
[04:21] <_VIM_> fallore you'll have to enable X forwarding in sshd_config, I don't beleive it's enabled by default...look for X11Forwarding and make it say X11Forwarding yes  then restart ssh server
[04:21] <ssastre> hi there, Q: I'm in ubuntu 8.04 which libary is suposed to be the glibc in ubuntu? (I mean the binary)
[04:21] <sug1> The_Laughing_Man: yes, but this way i would have to manually change every file int he dir
[04:21] <archer> Zykotic: thanks, i found it, actually, just took me a bit to weave through the link maze
[04:21] <fallore_> _VIM_: is that something you do if you're on windows?
[04:22] <sprinkmeier_> maxagaz, if the directory _contains_ links then they should show up. use "ls -l" or "find -ls" to highlight them. To find all symbolic links that "point to" the directory is another matter, you pretty much have to grovel your whole filesystem to find them.
[04:22] <mezy> Wildburn: i still have the live cd, if that could be used. and the size is about 2gigs
[04:22] <The_Laughing_Man> sugl: what exactly are you trying to do?
[04:22] <_VIM_> fallor I'm not sure, I was refering to a Linux SSH server
[04:22] <Wildburn> sure, boot off livecd itself, then run that install on desktop and when you get to the partition manager select the flash drive as thbe install location. then boot from flash drive after install is complete
[04:22] <sprinkmeier_> sug1, chown --recursive
[04:23] <fallore_> _VIM_: is that the equivalent of like, VNC?
[04:23] <mlbarnes> I am trying to fix an error that is showing in my mail.log. The error is FAILED - unexpected , output="/var/lib/amavis/tmp/amavis-20090301T221847-03504/parts: lstat() failed. ERROR\n". The setup is clamd with amavis. The sites I see show that I need to add the group. This is what I added to /etc/group amavis:x:118:clamav Does anyone have any suggestions
[04:23] <_VIM_> fallore_: I'd imagine the openssh-server for windows probably is set up the same way, with X forwarding not enabled
[04:23] <sug1> im tryign to change the premission of this directory from nobody to my user name. i can't access it from my user, i have to be in root to access this. but that is no good
[04:23] <_VIM_> fallore_:  no it's kind of like TELNET but safer
[04:23] <_VIM_> !ssh | fallore_
[04:23] <The_Laughing_Man> sprinkmeier: i forgot all about ch >.>
[04:23] <avian> question: I have a machine with two network interfaces, a lan and a wifi. The lan connection has internet access, but it insists on using the wifi to try and connect to the internet. Is there a way for force it to use the lan interface for internet access?
[04:24] <sug1> sprinkmeier_: how would i apply this to my directory and tell it to chagne premission to my user not root
[04:24] <mezy> Wildburn: thanks, i seen something like this before, but i didn't trust it because it was for an older version.
[04:24] <sprinkmeier_> fallore_, graphics in unix/linux are based on the X protocol. This can be sent through a socket, even a network socket, so the computer that runs the program does not have to do the graphical display. SSH offers a way to securely tunnel this X traffic (ssh -X)
[04:24] <avian> Anyone have any ideas?
[04:24] <rww> avian: I usually right-click the network manager applet icon in the notification area and uncheck "Enable wireless" when I'm in that situation.
[04:24] <Wildburn> mezy: no problem, and have fun with it
[04:24] <Wildburn> afk
[04:25] <sprinkmeier_> sug1, sudo chown --recursive USER /home/USER
[04:25] <avian> rww: I basically want the box to act as a proxy for computers on the wifi.
[04:25] <sprinkmeier_> sug1, this command is kind of unforgiving, experiment with a sub-tree first (/home/USER/foo or somesuch)
[04:25] <mlbarnes> Can anyone help me with my error with amavis?
[04:25] <Zykotic> avian, would it be possible to disable the wireless?
[04:25] <mezy> Wildburn: wish me luck, please, seriously, i have messed a computer while using ubuntu for the first time
[04:25] <_VIM_> speaking of ssh and vnc and all that, where can i get freenx? im not seeing it in the repos, and google is failing me...
[04:25] <Caplain> sprinkmeier_: wouldn't "chown user.user dir -R" be better?
[04:25] <avian> rww: laptop connects to server over wireless, server connects to internet and replies with the data. So wireless is requied
[04:26] <mezy> peace out
[04:26] <avian> required.
[04:26] <sug1> sprinkmeier_: ill give it a try thanks
[04:26] <avian> Zykotic, I need the wifi to be active too.
[04:26] <rww> avian: Ah. No idea, then.
[04:26] <avian> rww: thanks anyway
[04:26] <Zykotic> avian, just checking the easy answer.  i have no idea man...
[04:27] <sprinkmeier_> Caplain, user.group, not user.user (though most distros create a group for each user with the same name). --recursive (long option) is 'better' than -R (short option) IMHO because a typo will cause an error rather than potentially nuking things
[04:27] <Barridus> hmm, newbie question.  :)  is there supposed to be an "etc" directory in /opt?  i think the rsync guide i just followed was in error and i think it cluttered up some stuff
[04:27] <avian> Does anyone know how to force a wifi interface to use a lan interface for internet access?
[04:27] <avian> Or how to set which interface is used for net access?
[04:28] <mlbarnes> Can anyone help me with my error with amavis?
[04:28] <mlbarnes> I am trying to fix an error that is showing in my mail.log. The error is FAILED - unexpected , output="/var/lib/amavis/tmp/amavis-20090301T221847-03504/parts: lstat() failed. ERROR\n". The setup is clamd with amavis. The sites I see show that I need to add the group. This is what I added to /etc/group amavis:x:118:clamav Does anyone have any suggestions
[04:28] <Wildburn> Avian: why not just disable your wireless?
[04:28] <sprinkmeier_> Barridus, sometimes.... /opt is supposed to be for 'optional' software, and sometimes they whack in a etc there as well. Depends on distro, softrware installed, POM.....
[04:28] <Zykotic> Barridus, no default /opt/etc (in 8.10)
[04:28] <avian> Wildburn: I need to have both wifi and lan.
[04:28] <Wildburn> hang on reading back
[04:29] <Wildburn> avian:what system?
[04:29] <sug1> sprinkmeier_: thank you it worked
[04:29] <avian> wildburn: cli ubuntu 7.04
[04:29] <fallore_> i'd like to create a folder (\\htpc\xbmc\media) and share it throughout the windows network that the pc is connected to using SSH. can anyone help me?
[04:29] <Wildburn> avian: lol I meant hardware actually
[04:29] <avian> Wildburn: It's a toshiba 1410 laptop, sans screen.
[04:30] <rww> avian: You're aware that 7.04 doesn't get security updates any more?
[04:30] <avian> rww: yeah, but I'm not overly concerned with that.
[04:30] <Wildburn> avian:I would seriously consider moving to a newer distro 8.04 or 8.10 on either on my tc1000 it will use whichever can get an IP address between wireless and ethernet
[04:30] <Wildburn> avian: or see if you can get the deb of the newer network manager to run
[04:31] <Barridus> ok sprinkmeier_  thank you, i'll be careful
[04:31] <avian> Wildburn: It's a cli system, and for me to upgrade it would take...
[04:31] <avian> wildburn: around six days of constant downloading.
[04:31] <RHorse> avian: have you tried wlconfig?
[04:32] <avian> RHorse: wlconfig - command not found. It's a command line system.
[04:32] <Zykotic> fallore_, http://pastebin.com/d27a082f7 some steps for smb.conf editing
[04:32] <lvlefisto> How to set the keyboard layout to Malaysian? I can't find it in keyboard preferences / layout.
[04:32] <RHorse> avian: sri! iwconfig
[04:33] <avian> RHorse: Yes, I have tried iwconfig. Is there anything specific I should be trying?
[04:33] <RHorse> avian is it encrypted connection?
[04:33] <avian> RHorse: No, I have no problems with the wifi *connection*, I want the machine to use the LAN connection for internet access.
[04:33] <ssastre> can someone tell me where in ubuntu the libc binary is stored?
[04:34] <ssastre> glicb
[04:34] <Wildburn> avian: ah I see your not running a GUI at all? going to be difficult to do much with that, I assume you only need the lan connection in certain locations where you dont have wireless available?
[04:34] <RHorse> avian: I see.
[04:34] <RHorse> avian: ifconfig is what you want.
[04:34] <smpi__> love hardcore
[04:34] <rww> ssastre: what version of Ubuntu?
[04:35] <ssastre> 8.04
[04:35] <sug1> how can i access network files on xubuntu?
[04:35] <avian> RHorse: Could you be more specific? I have no problems with any connections at all, it just insists on using the wrong interface for net access.
[04:35] <darkniteusa> where can I update drivers for my video card?
[04:35] <ssastre> rww: 8.04 the most recent
[04:35] <Wildburn> avian: why is it the wrong interface?
[04:35] <darkniteusa> and how?
[04:35] <RHorse> avian: could you paste the results of ifconfig
[04:35] <sparr> currently installing 8.10 on a classic imac G3
[04:35] <RHorse> !pastebin | avian
[04:35] <cayouth_crew> woyow.....
[04:35] <nadira> charly
[04:36] <rww> ssastre: 8.04 isn't the most recent. Anyway, it looks like they'd be in one of the libc6 packages: http://packages.ubuntu.com/source/hardy/glibc
[04:36] <avian> RHorse: http://pastebin.com/m4ec5fdee
[04:36] <subhramalya> hey nebdy there
[04:36] <cayouth_crew> kontoy
[04:36] <avian> Wildburn: The LAN connection and the wireless go to different routers.
[04:36] <Scunizi> Anyone running mythtv on cox communications?  Care to join me in ubuntu-offtopic for some Q & A?
[04:36] <fallore_> no, subhramalya, we're all gone
[04:36] <subhramalya> how can i install theme
[04:37] <avian> Wildburn: The lan one has internet access, because the wireless one won't work with my desktop.
[04:37] <Wildburn> avian: ok, so your using the wifi to connect for something besides web access?
[04:37] <RHorse> avian: which of these do you want to connect to eth0 or eth1?
[04:37] <Barridus> where do files sent by a gksudo'ed nautilus's move to trash go?  nothing appeared in the trash
[04:37] <okky> indo ja coy
[04:37] <avian> RHorse: eth0 is the lan - it has net access. eth1 is wireless.
[04:37] <RHorse> OK
[04:38] <Zykotic> Barridus, you've used su so it's the "root" account and not your user that is executing the command
[04:38] <avian> Wildburn: The wifi is to connect the other computers I have on the wifi to the internet. The computers on the wifi would use the server as a proxy, giving them net access.
[04:38] <^paradox^> i need a textual list of the files in a certain folder with full file names including extensions and in alphabetical order. is there a terminal command that will do this for me?
[04:38] <n2diy> Barridus, there maybe a hidden folder called .trash
[04:38] <okky> alooo
[04:39] <avian> Wildburn: It works fine for local stuff, but the server tries to access the net through the wifi interface, not the lan interface.
[04:39] <Barridus> Zykotic, right but if i'm still in that gksudo'ed nautilus...?
[04:39] <RHorse> avian: is it dhcp connex?
[04:39] <okky> apaan tu
[04:39] <rww> ssastre: There's a "list files" link on packages.ubuntu.com. That might tell you, maybe? I'm not sure of what exactly you need.
[04:39] <avian> RHorse: I believe so.
[04:39] <Zykotic> paradigm, "ls | sort"
[04:39] <RHorse> avian: ok, sudo ifconfig eth0
[04:39] <Wildburn> Avian: I see,
[04:39] <okky> yesterday
[04:40] <avian> RHorse: http://pastebin.com/m5ef0fe32
[04:40] <Zykotic> Barridus, it is close to insanity to be running nautilus as root....  i'm really not to worried about where the trash is going...
[04:40] <^paradox^> anyone know?
[04:40] <^Einstein> What special manual configuration would a 64-bit Intrepid user need after purging and reinstalling alsa and pulseaudio?
[04:40] <Wildburn> Avian: can you paste results for sudo route
[04:40] <RHorse> avian: ok, now sudo dhclient eth0
[04:40] <archer> Zykotic: i'm still having the problem that some programs see, but cannot tune, the tuner card, and programs like "w_scan" do not even see the card
[04:40] <ssastre> rww: ok I'm taking a look there. I just need to know what binary library has the lockf function (I'm making a wrapper)
[04:40] <Barridus> Zykotic, it was suggested here to me a while back to do that
[04:41] <mikewu> ^paradox^: find `pwd` | sort
[04:41] <okky> yessssssss
[04:41] <avian> RHorse: eth0 is the lan interface.
[04:41] <okky> no
[04:41] <RHorse> avian: type sudo dhclient eth0
[04:41] <avian> http://pastebin.com/m687fba7b
[04:41] <mikewu> ^paradox^: if you don't want it to be recursive change it to find `pwd` -maxdepth 1 | sort
[04:41] <Zykotic> Barridus, generally it is a horrible idea, perhaps special circumstances i don't know require it though???
[04:42] <RHorse> avian: I think your connected. Try pinging sonic.net
[04:42] <rww> ssastre: Looks like unistd.h: http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/intrepid/en/man3/lockf.3posix.html
[04:42] <^paradox^> thanks
[04:42] <Wildburn> avian: according to your routing table it should be setup properly
[04:42] <avian> RHorse: Genius.
[04:42] <fallore_> i'd like to create a folder (\\htpc\xbmc\media) and share it throughout the windows network that the pc is connected to using SSH. can anyone help me?
[04:42] <RHorse> avian: thank you I accept paypal
[04:42] <Barridus> Zykotic, oh well what's done is done.  still gotta figure out where these files went, it's several gb
[04:42] <izul> my strong
[04:43] <rww> ssastre: if you need that .h file, it's in /usr/include/bits/unistd.h, provided by package libc6-dev.
[04:43] <Zykotic> archer, i don't know what to tell you other then after i do the manual install stuff it works???  sorry i can't be of further assistance, the box with that card isn't here...
[04:43] <izul> gehhhhhh
[04:43] <fallore_> Zykotic: i'm afraid i didn't understand the instructions in the pastebin, would you have time to go a little more indepth?
[04:43] <archer> Zykotic, alright, thanks for your help
[04:43] <izul> uc
[04:43] <izul> fuck you
[04:44] <fallore_> Zykotic: specifically, do i just paste that [writable] section in there somewhere and tweak it?
[04:44] <bazhang> izul, stop that
[04:44] <ssastre> rww: ok but I dont want the header I need to know which one is the binary with that function compliled in it
[04:44] <Zykotic> fallore_, it was a real rough blueprint of what you need to edit...  where you get stuck?
[04:44] <nickrud> !language | izul
[04:44] <Barridus> where is ./trash
[04:44] <Zykotic> fallore_, exactly customize to suite!
[04:44] <Barridus> err .trash
[04:44] <fallore_> Zykotic: does it not matter where i paste that section?
[04:44] <_VIM_> Barridus:  it's hidden
[04:45] <_VIM_> ctrl + h key in nautilus
[04:45] <nickrud> Barridus,  ~/.local/share/Trash , or ~/.Trash  (case matters) and ~ stands for your home dir
[04:45] <Zykotic> fallore_, there is a section 3/4 the way down i think, look for the printer share...
[04:45] <ssastre> rww: I imagine is some .so file I need to know which one