[00:00] <shyni> hello
[00:00] <Codenomics> #hashtag
[00:00] <shyni> my laptop isn't detecting any usb devices
[00:00] <shyni> I'm not sure what happened
[00:02] <hkrrsx> shyni: Reboot without anything connected to the laptop?
[00:02] <bindi> hi
[00:03] <hkrrsx> Then re-connect your device?
[00:03] <shyni> 'kay
[00:03] <bindi> i'm on 14.04.2 LTS, does "dist-upgrade" give me 14.10 or 14.02.3?
[00:03] <bindi> apt-get dist-upgrade that is
[00:04] <hkrrsx> bindi: do-release-upgrade should take you to 14.10
[00:04] <bindi> i don't want that though
[00:04] <bindi> i'm asking where does dist-upgrade take me
[00:04] <hkrrsx> apt-get upgrade should take you to 14.04.2
[00:04] <bindi> i'm on 14.04.2...
[00:04] <hkrrsx> Sorry, I meant 14.04.3
[00:04] <bindi> well i already did that, haven't rebooted
[00:04] <bindi> do i want to do dist-upgade aswell?
[00:04] <hkrrsx> Not yet
[00:05] <hkrrsx> Reboot first and check lsb_release -d
 shyni: Reboot without anything connected to the laptop?
[00:08] <shyni> didn't work
[00:08] <hkrrsx> shyni: Did you plug the USB device back in?
[00:08] <shyni> yes
[00:09] <hkrrsx> What USB device is it and does it show up in dmesg ?
[00:09] <hkrrsx> shyni: Or better yet, run " lsusb " and see if the device is listed
[00:09] <shyni> nothing shows up in lsusb
[00:10] <hkrrsx> Unplug the device, plug it back in and re-run lsusb
[00:10] <shyni> yeah, doesn't detect any sort of device
[00:10] <shyni> neither the mouse nor the pendrive
[00:11] <hiexpo> than you have a usb issue
[00:11] <hkrrsx> shyni: Are your USB ports enabled ?
[00:11] <penguser> hey, is this a bug?:  when I switch keyboard layouts, the authorization screen pops up
[00:11] <shyni> I didn't /dis/able them
[00:11] <penguser> but, I can click cancel... and proceed... so, it's coming up for nothing
[00:12] <hkrrsx> shyni: Do ANY USB devices work on that laptop?
[00:12] <penguser> it's annoying... does anyone know what's going on?
[00:12] <shyni> doesn't look like it
[00:12] <shyni> the mouse lights up
[00:12] <shyni> but that's it
[00:12] <hkrrsx> shyni: Sounds more like a hardware problem
[00:12] <shyni> things used to work until last night
[00:12] <shyni> oh
[00:13] <hiexpo> try to boot with libe usb
[00:13] <hiexpo> live^
[00:15] <hiexpo> shyni, doesnt mean its a linux prob. usb could have failed
[00:15] <shyni> i'll try
[00:17] <[n0mad]> why are there so many usb issues reported? i know that usb freaks out in windows too but it's been around for 20 years now.
[00:18] <hiexpo> i have never had an usb issue > operator error?
[00:18] <hkrrsx> [n0mad]: Perhaps USB has spring allergies
[00:18] <DANtheBEASTman> i'm getting a massive amount of perl errors everywhere on 14.04, anytime I install a package now I get debconf: Perl may be unconfigured (Can't locate IO/File.pm in @INC (you may need to install the IO::File module)
[00:18] <DANtheBEASTman> and yet I can't cpan install anything for the same reasons
[00:18] <[n0mad]> good to hear. i know that you only hear the problems but it's actually had me paranoid to start plugging in anything lol
[00:19] <[Saint]> [n0mad]: re: USB issues - because virtually NOTHING follows USB spec.
[00:19] <Guest88422> anyone using xubuntu here?
[00:20] <DANtheBEASTman> Guest88422: don't ask to ask
[00:20] <[Saint]> Its all a magical clusterfuck of things that are glued together with hope and prayers and bailing twine.
[00:20] <[n0mad]> lol [Saint]
[00:22] <[Saint]> If every USB device and driver suddenly started following the USB spec to the letter, ~90% of people's peripherals would just abruptly fall over and die.
[00:23] <Bashing-om> DANtheBEASTman: For starters pastebin -> sudo apt-get update , sudo apt-get upgrade <- see what the package manager is unhappy about .
[00:23] <hiexpo> for sure
[00:26] <DANtheBEASTman> Bashing-om: http://sprunge.us/JXNc
[00:27] <shyni> hello
[00:27] <shyni> I booted from a USB
[00:27] <shyni> other devices work now
[00:28] <shyni> even the mouse
[00:28] <shyni> lsusb detects things
[00:29] <shyni> so the earlier issue must have been a software thing
[00:32] <rexus> Hi Guys.. in Ubuntu 14.04 and 14.10, what's the proper way of stopping a service?
[00:32] <DANtheBEASTman> rexus: sudo service stop {}
[00:33] <Bashing-om> DANtheBEASTman: Look'n at your http://sprunge.us/JXNc .
[00:34] <DANtheBEASTman> rexus: also, if you want to disable a service from running at boot you use sudo upate-rc.d -f remove {}
[00:34] <rexus> DANtheBEASTman: what I understand is that both are using upstart, so I was thinking it should be using the upstart command.
[00:34] <rexus> although I also understand that SystemV command is still working..
[00:34] <Codenomics> ugh, seems that my server just refuses to boot from this thumb drive
[00:34] <guest_001> <3 windows!
[00:34] <DANtheBEASTman> rexus: i don't know a whole lot about upstart specifics, but I do know that `service` is considered the standard way to manage services
[00:38] <rexus> DANtheBEASTman, what is this command called initctl ?
[00:38] <DANtheBEASTman> honestly, no idea
[00:39] <DANtheBEASTman> i'm sure you can run `man` on it and find out more though
[00:39] <rexus> yeah, I'm checking on it now..
[00:39] <Bashing-om> DANtheBEASTman: "Errors were encountered while processing: /var/cache/apt/archives/linux-image-3.16.0-34-generic_3.16.0-34.45~14.04.1_amd64.deb " // let's try -> sudo apt-get clean , sudo apt-get update <- .
[00:40] <DANtheBEASTman> Bashing-om: not that I have trouble parsing what you mean, but i'm curious why you use , rather than ;
[00:41] <DANtheBEASTman> apt-get clean had no output
[00:41] <DANtheBEASTman> update worked fine..
[00:41] <Bashing-om> DANtheBEASTman: Just the 'syntax'  I 1st encountered here on IRC to seperate commands .
[00:43] <Bashing-om> DANtheBEASTman: Let's see of we can get those "75 not fully installed or removed." .. with caution -> sudo apt-get autoremove <- . Pay attention to what the system will remove .
[00:45] <DANtheBEASTman> i feel like I should note this is a problem i'm having with perl, rather than apt
[00:46] <DANtheBEASTman> apt just happens to depend on perl and that's where I noticed this problem
[00:46] <Bashing-om> DANtheBEASTman: I look at it as 'pearl' is a package, and use the package manager to see what the problem is .. I have been known to be out in left field, though .
[00:47] <shyni> can anyone help me with my USB problem?
[00:48] <DANtheBEASTman> I did a `sudo dpkg --configure -a` and it fixed some of the not fully installed problems, I'm down to 9, and all mostly kernel related
[00:48] <DANtheBEASTman> shyni: so your install is having trouble with usb, but usb works on a live cd?
[00:49] <shyni> yes
[00:49] <DANtheBEASTman> shyni: so you can fairly rule out it's not a hardware issue, and is an issue with your current install? if it were me, I'd just re-install.... but I doubt that's the answer you're looking for
[00:50] <shyni> I'd rather not have to reinstall
[00:50] <daftykins> shyni: laptop?
[00:50] <shyni> yes
[00:50] <shyni> I /can/ just reinstall, I'd just rather not have to
[00:50] <daftykins> shyni: pastebin'd 'dmesg' when booting the install whilst USB doesn't work?
[00:50] <Bashing-om> DANtheBEASTman: OK, back to seeing what the package management status is now -> sudo apt-get update , sudo apt-get upgrade <- then see what the next step is .
[00:50] <xbmc> hello
[00:50] <shyni> I haven't done a dmesg
[00:51] <xbmc> http://script.quakenet.org/paste/1675036 my system started spamming this to my syslog
[00:51] <xbmc> no hw changes (2 weeks ago i plugged in a webcam and configured motion), had 50d uptime
[00:51] <daftykins> shyni: then that's the next step! :D it should tell what's up with USB. beyond that, try removing the mains + battery, let the laptop sit for 2 mins, then plug in and power up
[00:51] <xbmc> i was confused by my sys disk going full, removed stuff.. went full again. found out my syslog was being spammed
[00:51] <DANtheBEASTman> Bashing-om: http://sprunge.us/XIBF
[00:52] <Bashing-om> DANtheBEASTman: look'n at http://sprunge.us/XIBF .
[00:52] <shyni> should I boot normally again and /then/ do a dmesg?
[00:52] <DANtheBEASTman> shyni: yes
[00:52] <daftykins> shyni: whichever you feel like
[00:53] <shyni> okay
[00:53] <mehn> i have a netbook that only has ubuntu server installed on it and wifi but no CD drive, is there a way i can reinstall the os from just the command line?
[00:53] <mehn> or preferably install xubuntu on it from the command line
[00:53] <xbmc> (if anyone tackles my problem, ill be back in a bit)
[00:54] <daftykins> mehn: just install the xubuntu-desktop package, if it's a supported version
[00:54] <genii> mehn: If it has an USB better to dd the iso onto an USB stick and boot to that
[00:54] <daftykins> but bear in mind all netbooks should be shot out of a cannon into the sun in 2015
[00:54]  * daftykins slides genii a coffee
[00:54] <genii> daftykins: Caffeine, awesome!
[00:54] <coffee-> O_O
[00:55]  * genii sips coffee
[00:55] <mehn> as a fallback i just want to delete the o/s permanently and sell it on craigslist and let someone who buys it install whatever tghey want
[00:55] <daftykins> coffee-: i'd apologise but your nick is second to the guy the other day called 'apt-get' in here :P
[00:55] <mehn> how would i delete ubuntu for good from the command line? just fdisk?
[00:55] <mehn> i don't want them to have access to my data if they try to recover it
[00:55] <daftykins> mehn: dd
[00:55] <Bashing-om> DANtheBEASTman: Think'n as on my system : " sysop@1404mini:~$ ls -al /usr/local/share/perl/ >> ls: cannot access /usr/local/share/perl/: No such file or directory . Does not exist on a default install .
[00:55] <mehn> daftykins: do you know the full command?
[00:56] <coffee-> lol daftykins
[00:56] <DANtheBEASTman> Bashing-om: right..
[00:56] <daftykins> mehn: well i don't think the OS will appreciate running 'dd' on the hard disk from the install, it might actually scream as it goes down - worth a go i suppose though - "sudo dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sda bs=2M"
[00:57] <DANtheBEASTman> Bashing-om: the line saying (@INC contains: {list of paths}) is saying where perl is looking for things and can't find it. a bit like saying, command does not exist in $PATH
[00:57] <mehn> thx
[01:02] <DANtheBEASTman> Bashing-om: this might illustrate my point better, which I got after running `dpkg --configure -a` http://sprunge.us/QCKi
[01:03] <[Saint]> daftykins: surprisingly, it tolerates it very well.
[01:03] <daftykins> huzzah
[01:03] <DANtheBEASTman> all these are perl problems, and apt depends on perl. reinstalling perl doesn't help
[01:03] <daftykins> it'll take hours though
[01:03] <[Saint]> I wouldn't do this from the install itself, though.
[01:03] <[Saint]> Do it from a liveCD/DVD/USB
[01:04] <[Saint]> then you can actually verify after the fact.
[01:04]  * trollkin
[01:04] <daftykins> oh you're not the person
[01:04] <xbmc> nobody tackled my problem? :p
[01:04] <daftykins> yes i would normally suggest to do it from a live session, but NOT doing exactly that was what the user asked for
[01:05] <daftykins> xbmc: guessing by your nickname you're typing from xbmcbuntu?
[01:05] <xbmc> nah, ubuntu 14.04.02 lts, just my user name
[01:06] <daftykins> xbmc: ok well your kernel is out of date in that pastebin
[01:06] <daftykins> 3.13.0-34 is old
[01:06] <xbmc> how do i update? i did update, upgrade and dist-upgrade
[01:06] <daftykins> you must not have linux-generic installed
[01:06] <xbmc> root@meskhenet:~# dpkg -l | grep linux-generic
[01:06] <xbmc> ii  linux-generic                                               <IP_ADDRESS>.56                                        amd64        Complete Generic Linux kernel and headers
[01:07] <daftykins> well, you're not booting into it
[01:07] <daftykins> check /boot for it being present
[01:07] <xbmc> how am i not booting into it
[01:07] <daftykins> or dpkg -l | grep linux-image-3.13
[01:07] <daftykins> GRUB default.
[01:07] <xbmc> i  linux-image-3.13.0-34-generic                               3.13.0-34.60                                        amd64        Linux kernel image for version 3.13.0 on 64 bit x86 SMP
[01:07] <xbmc> ii  linux-image-3.13.0-49-generic                               3.13.0-49.81                                        amd64        Linux kernel image for version 3.13.0 on 64 bit x86 SMP
[01:08] <daftykins> stop pasting in channel please
[01:08] <xbmc> ii on the first chars
[01:08] <xbmc> sorry :p its really hard to pastebin shit
[01:08] <daftykins> yes i can read :)
[01:08] <daftykins> language.
[01:08] <daftykins> so yeah, either you haven't rebooted or it's not GRUB default
[01:08] <xbmc> .... sorry about that too. i'm kind of intoxicated and my system broke when it was just "running fine"
[01:08] <daftykins> but until you're on current there's not much point trying to resolve issues
[01:08] <xbmc> i really havent done anything special. just install ubuntu, xbmc, and keep doing updates
[01:09] <xbmc> how can i check the grub default?
[01:09] <Bashing-om> DANtheBEASTman: Yesh on the looking for paths .. and hollering about line 7 .. compare -> cat /usr/share/perl5/Debconf/Template.pm <- to mine : http://paste.ubuntu.com/10805114/ at or about line 7 .
[01:09] <daftykins> !grub
[01:09] <xbmc> uggggggggh are you making me read whole pages now :p
[01:09] <daftykins> yes
[01:09] <daftykins> also it's called Kodi these days
[01:10] <xbmc> well i'm not gonna change my username for that :>
[01:10] <xbmc> http://paste.ubuntu.com/10805120/
[01:10] <xbmc> this what you wanted?
[01:10] <xbmc> hm no
[01:11] <DANtheBEASTman> Bashing-om: all the same.
[01:11] <xbmc> http://paste.ubuntu.com/10805125/
[01:12] <daftykins> i don't need to see a config file, it's not really gonna help me - just give it a good think :)
[01:12] <xbmc> eh
[01:12] <daftykins> wouldn't hurt to run sudo update-grub and see if it spots the kernels
[01:13] <xbmc> http://script.quakenet.org/paste/1675081
[01:13] <xbmc> looks good y/n? =D
[01:13] <xbmc> ima change my name so..eh. yeah.
[01:13] <daftykins> you should probably call it a night early and work on it tomorrow if you're up late drunk :>
[01:14] <shyni> hello
[01:14] <daftykins> wb
[01:14] <bindi> no, i want to wake up tomorrow and be good on binge watching series :p i need to fix this
[01:14] <shyni> I removed the batteries and all
[01:14] <shyni> usb devices still not working
[01:14] <bindi> daftykins: btw. i do have an ES cpu. if that might explain the problem at all
[01:15] <daftykins> engineering sample? oh nice
[01:15] <bindi> yeah
[01:15] <bindi> i7 920. reported as "i7 000" in /proc/cpuinfo
[01:15] <daftykins> shyni: so you need to boot the install and share a "dmesg | pastebinit" ideally.
[01:16] <daftykins> bindi: you know how to hold left shift and pick a kernel manually right?
[01:16] <daftykins> 'cause i think you should go do that
[01:16] <bindi> daftykins: i dont have a kb attached to the pc
[01:16] <shyni> http://pastebin.com/DQJWE485
[01:16] <bindi> just a bt one. doesnt work during boot time
[01:17] <shyni> (i'm on my regular install and not the liveusb right now, by the way)
[01:17] <shyni> lsusb still doesn't detect anything
[01:17] <daftykins> bindi: then you're going to need to resolve that.
[01:17] <Bashing-om> DANtheBEASTman: I am back to think'n .. I be back soonest.
[01:18] <daftykins> shyni: kernel and ubuntu version?
[01:18] <bindi> daftykins: you're saying 3.13 is *not* latest for 14.04.2?
[01:18] <shyni> ubuntu 14.04
[01:18] <bindi> daftykins: is there no command for doing that shift thingy?
[01:20] <Bashing-om> DANtheBEASTman: As 'perl' is a package, how 'bout -> sudo dpkg-reconfigure perl <- see what the system reports ?
[01:20] <daftykins> bindi: this is prior to the OS loading, you can't run a command from nothing...
[01:20] <daftykins> bindi: just resolve the default.
[01:20] <daftykins> shyni: and kernel? "uname -r"
[01:20] <DANtheBEASTman> Bashing-om: http://sprunge.us/VLOc
[01:21] <shyni> 3.13.0-49-generic
[01:21] <daftykins> shyni: ok well at least you're up to date, anywho it's too late for me to help really - but what i had been after was 'dmesg' , not 'dmesg | grep usb' :P
[01:21] <shyni> oh
[01:21] <daftykins> read the output and it might give some clues, or maybe your hardware is just too new i don't know, i don't have time now to ask further questions
[01:22] <Bashing-om> DANtheBEASTman: look'n at http://sprunge.us/VLOc .
[01:22] <shyni> wow it's actually too big for the terminal or something
[01:23] <DANtheBEASTman> shyni: pipe it to less
[01:23] <daftykins> or into a file in ~ to read with a text editor
[01:23] <shyni> how do I do that?
[01:23] <daftykins> shyni: hang on when you boot from live, are you booting 14.04.1 or 14.04.2?
[01:23] <DANtheBEASTman> shyni: dmesg | less
[01:23] <bindi> daftykins: i'm pretty sure 3.13 is latest for 14.04.2
[01:24] <DANtheBEASTman> shyni: fwiw, you could've reinstalled by now
[01:24] <daftykins> bindi: you're ignoring the minor version of -49.
[01:24] <shyni> daftykins: not sure
[01:25] <daftykins> bindi: and you're also wrong, a dist-upgrade'd 14.04 will stay on 3.13 but a fresh installed 14.04.2 will install with the utopic HWE stack and thus use 3.16
[01:25] <shyni> http://pastebin.com/up22vgzS
[01:25] <bindi> daftykins: so can you help me get me to 3.16? :p
[01:26] <Bashing-om> DANtheBEASTman: Humm .. still screaming and hollering about that one file : my perl version: perl --version >> This is perl 5, version 18, subversion 2 (v5.18.2) built for x86_64-linux-gnu-th read-multi (with 41 registered patches, see perl -V for more detail) // Yours same ? maybe use my file ?
[01:26] <daftykins> bindi: no.
[01:27] <daftykins> bindi: also that's not what i said to do, i'm going now because you're paying 0 attention
[01:27] <DANtheBEASTman> yep, same file version, from what I can tell, but I also can't run perl --version
[01:27] <bindi> i'm paying attention, i just dont understand everything :| just because we're talking kernels and sh...stuff, you shouldn't assume i'm pro in this area
[01:27] <bindi> i know ubuntu and apt-get :D
[01:28] <[Saint]> Don't worry, there's no risk of anyone assuming you're a pro.
[01:28] <daftykins> ^
[01:28] <[Saint]> Far from it.
[01:28] <bindi> no shi...........stuff
[01:28] <DANtheBEASTman> shyni: do you have any experience with car mechanics? have you ever had a problem with a car, where you know exactly what the problem is, but you don't know what's causing it?
[01:28] <[Saint]> Why do people do this?
[01:29] <bindi> why do I do what, [Saint]?
[01:29] <shyni> no
[01:29] <bindi> hi thommey, got milk?
[01:29] <[Saint]> "Oh, wowzorz! Linux!"
[01:29] <[Saint]> "I know nothing about this, but I sure am going to jump right in and pretend!"
[01:29] <Bashing-om> DANtheBEASTman: Still, think it worth a shot, see what results, Back up your current file and mine: http://paste.ubuntu.com/10805102/ .
[01:29] <[Saint]> "Reading? nah....pffft!"
[01:29] <bindi> [Saint]: sure, i can do reading. but this is way too complex for me
[01:30] <shyni> fwiw this is what I get from opening my dmesg log in gedit http://pastebin.com/ra7ez8gi
[01:30] <[Saint]> I'm sure there's a shiny Windows install ready to welcome you back to it somewhere, or, you could take some time and do some research before diving into the deep end and wasting your time and the time of those trying to assist you.
[01:31] <daftykins> [Saint]: it's the ones that threaten to go back to Windows that make me laugh the most
[01:32] <DANtheBEASTman> shyni: well, that's exactly where you're at now, you have this problem, but you don't know how to fix it or what's causing it. standard-ops for this kind of thing in cars is to think of the most simple problem that could cause it, test that idea, fix it or move on to the next complex idea. it's all, test this, then test that. car owners and mechanics alike often wish that it was more feasible to just replace
[01:32] <DANtheBEASTman> everything, but that's very cost expensive. fortuntately, when it comes to computers, you can replace everything without it costing you much but your time.
[01:32] <jaysonl> Hi all.  Ubuntu 15.04 user here, wondering what else I have to do besides removing the usual "-nolisten TCP" bit I need to do in order to get X to listen on port 6000...
[01:32] <Bashing-om> DANtheBEASTman: -> apt-cache policy perl <- . mine : Installed: 5.18.2-2ubuntu1 .
[01:32] <bindi> [Saint]: nah, i dont think zfs runs that well on windows
[01:32] <daftykins> jaysonl: #ubuntu+1 for 15.04 as it's not out yet
[01:33] <jaysonl> daftkykins: aye aye, thank you
[01:33] <shyni> guess I should just transfer some files and then reinstall everything
[01:33] <shyni> ...?
[01:33] <DANtheBEASTman> point being, shyni, you can sit here and listen to these guys try and diagnose your problem from afar and wait for there answers, hoping it fixes it, or you could try making a list of your installed pakcages, back-up your configs, and reinstall.
[01:33] <[Saint]> bindi: ZFS?
[01:33] <[Saint]> Oh man, this just keeps getting better.
[01:33] <[Saint]> Have fun honey...
[01:34] <daftykins> lmao.
[01:34] <[Saint]> Filesystems that work?
[01:34] <DANtheBEASTman> shyni: i'm not saying it's your only option, but it's one to consider.
[01:34] <[Saint]> 'aint nobody gots time fo dat.
[01:34] <OerHeks> [Saint], so do you have a support question, or just here to troll ?
[01:37] <[Saint]> Discussing problematic new users that are wasting the time of those that are trying to help them by way of refusing to help themselves is trolling huh?
[01:37] <[Saint]> God I hate that word.
[01:37] <[Saint]> Anyway, cool story honey.
[01:37] <daftykins> basically, help, ask a question or go away
[01:37] <[Saint]> but you just...
[01:38] <daftykins> yes but now you're whinging on every line - that's not gonna fly.
[01:38] <bindi> so do you bash (Not the shell! i know that much, >:)) everyone who has a more complex question than "how do i ubuntu????" and tell them "blah blah blah, honey", [Saint]?
[01:38] <bindi> btw i think reiserfs is murderlike good. i just wanted to try out zfs as a close friend of mine personally recommended it for me over windows
[01:38]  * [n0mad] gets popcorn
[01:40] <bindi> i mean really, i had an ubuntu installation that worked fine, xbmc playing me my favourite series. then all of the sudden my syslog is spammed with that stuff i pasted earlier
[01:40] <bindi> you tell me my kernel has gone old during it's runtime
[01:40] <bindi> and it's my job as a linux user to read on "How the kernel works, part 1/3400234" and figure it out myself? :D
[01:40] <[n0mad]> could be
[01:41] <daftykins> i had said to make the -49 the default, but you've kinda flicked into time wasting on here instead of working on your problem
[01:41] <bindi> let's say i switched to ubuntu because "i dont like windows because x". i dont know what "switching to -49" means. can you help me with that?
[01:41] <[n0mad]> and i have no idea if you need to update your kernel, but here's information on upgrading it http://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2014/08/install-upgrade-linux-kernel-3-16/
[01:41] <[n0mad]> there's also ones for 3.17 and 3.18
[01:42] <daftykins> bindi: i told you already, kernel 3.13.0-49 and AGAIN you're just being purposefully useless
[01:42] <daftykins> can't tolerate this lack of effort, go to bed and work on it when you're willing to lift a finger
[01:43] <daftykins> or perhaps one of the other channel volunteers is feeling particularly charitable this evening
[01:43] <rainbowwarrior> Hi All , I am using Ubuntu 14.10 and I can not find how to install DVDStyler 2.9.2 can someone please help ?
[01:45] <hkrrsx> rainbowwarrior: Looks like dvdstyler is in the universe repository
[01:45] <Ekips> Less of amusement here than I was promised
[01:46] <OerHeks> Ekips, the topic didn't promise you amusement, just ubuntu support.
[01:47] <Ekips> I'm not talking about the topic though :)
[01:48] <OerHeks> rainbowwarrior, install dvdstyler 2.7.2 from our repos (supported), or use the ppa for 2.9.2 ( no support ) https://launchpad.net/~ubuntuhandbook1/+archive/ubuntu/dvdstyler/+index?field.series_filter=
[01:49] <Ekips> Blame thommey, really
[01:49] <bindi> hey Ekips. do you have experience on reiserfs? i'm contemplating on changing to that
[01:49] <Ekips> ReiserFS is pretty dead
[01:49] <rainbowwarrior> OerHeks ok thank you
[01:50] <OerHeks> !reiserfs
[01:50] <Ekips> Like its proverbial wife
[01:50] <[n0mad]> mmm data loss
[01:50] <Ekips> That is correct though
[01:51] <Ekips> But when there was no ext4, ReiserFS was a great choice
[01:51] <Ekips> Nowadays, meh
[01:51] <dedhero0> hello
[01:51] <[Saint]> But it's edgy though, how many other filesystems were created by convicted murderers I wonder?
[01:52] <Ekips> Yeah, it has that going for it of course
[01:52] <bindi> !ot | Ekips
[01:53] <Ekips> Great, that's what I get for helping a drunk 12 year old for about an hour ^^
[01:54] <dedhero0> anyone thinking about upgrading to 15.04?
[01:54] <Guest40349> no
[01:54] <Guest40349> :p
[01:54] <OerHeks> dedhero0, sure, on the 27th
[01:55] <OerHeks> make sure you have the iso downloaded before upgrading, just in case .. :-)
[01:57] <dedhero0> I'm using 14.04 since its lts not sure about upgrading my PC. So far I have no problems and I like it this way :)
[01:58] <dedhero0> I have a laptop I use to test stuff on, I might install it on that
[01:59] <dedhero0> of course Oerheks.. just in case ;)
[02:02] <Rudi_STEiN> Ello.
[02:20]  * a1z3n wave hello
[02:22]  * a1z3n anyone going to talk in here?
[02:23] <daftykins> not until you ask a support question, as it's not a chat channel :)
[02:24]  * a1z3n thank you... how do I get to a chat channel, or any channel for that matter?
[02:24] <daftykins> !ot
[02:24] <Ekips> You might want to start considering typing text and pressing "enter" without preceding it with a /me when not performing an action, too
[02:25] <Ekips> Which is just a general hint, not a Ubuntu related one
[02:25] <a1z3n> sorry... just started using Ubuntu - switching from windows... finally
[02:26] <a1z3n> #ubuntu-offtopic
[02:27] <daftykins> "/join #channel-name"
[02:27] <Ekips> Or, you know, type it and doubleclick it, it seems
[02:28] <daftykins> Ekips: you can drop your rude approach now :)
[02:28] <Ekips> Even when it's mentioned a few lines higher up
[02:28] <Ekips> Hey, I'm at my friendliest here ;)
[02:33] <gr33n7007h> Anyone with a router (ralink/broadcom) chipset with wps enabled might want to turn wps off pdq!
[02:39] <zerowaitstate> gr33n7007h: i always turn WPS off
[02:39] <hollowsoul> can some one help me beable to play a dvd i bought on ubuntu
[02:40] <zerowaitstate> hollowsoul: dvd's are a can of drm worms
[02:40] <OerHeks> hollowsoul, did you look at the dvd wiki, for css encryption ?
[02:40] <OerHeks> !dvd
[02:40] <hollowsoul> no i didn't know where to look
[02:40] <[Saint]> and now you do.
[02:41] <OerHeks> install restricted extra's, sudo apt-get install libdvdread4 && sudo /usr/share/doc/libdvdread4/install-css.sh ( no need to reboot AFAIK )
[02:41] <OerHeks> and restart your mediaplayer
[02:49] <nullfaith> o/
[02:49] <zerowaitstate> o7
[02:50] <nullfaith> Just started using ubuntu mate on my new laptop, so i think I am allowed to hang out in here now. XD
[02:51] <hollowsoul> i am having issues with editing my sources.list file
[02:52] <nullfaith> What is the issue hollowsoul ?
[02:52] <hollowsoul> i get the error 6960
[02:53] <daftykins> ¬_¬
[02:53] <hollowsoul> i must be adding the lines in wrong or some thing
[02:53] <daftykins> so show what you're doing via http://paste.ubuntu.com
[02:53] <daftykins> we can't look over your shoulder
[02:53] <hollowsoul> are they sopose to be at the end
[02:54] <hollowsoul> or beginning
[02:54] <[Saint]> Is this still the DVD thing?
[02:54] <[Saint]> If so, you've no need to be touching sources.list at all.
[02:56] <[Saint]> If not, you're going to have to tell someone what it is you're actually doing, because being as vague as you are makes it really hard to help at all.
[02:56] <hollowsoul> just trying to get a dvd to play on my ubuntu
[02:57] <hollowsoul> i would like to just watch a movie
[02:57] <[Saint]> Then follow the instruction you were given.
[02:57] <[Saint]> At no pint did anyone instuct you to piss around with sources.list.
[02:57] <daftykins> [Saint]: drop the attitude
[02:58] <Ekips> Install vlc, watch DVD, the end?
[02:58] <hollowsoul> thats what the vlan thing told me to do
[02:58] <fallen_> fuck that, hack then talk lol
[02:59] <[Saint]> daftykins: stop assuming there is one - I may be blunt, but I'm blunt because it leads to less confusion in the long run.
[03:00] <fallen_> by the way when you edit the sources.lst file DO NOT delete the # hyphen's
[03:00] <daftykins> [Saint]: whatever you think you're being, i'm telling you you're not coming across well in a volunteer help channel. so if you can't put in the effort to be nice, leave.
[03:00] <[Saint]> I can either be nice, or I can get shit done.
[03:00] <[Saint]> When a user clearly isn;t listening, being nice already failed.
[03:01] <daftykins> [Saint]: i don't see you getting anything done, also don't use that language here please.
[03:02] <daftykins> either follow the rules or hop it :)
[03:02] <hollowsoul> i am sorry i don't intend to be mean
[03:02] <hollowsoul> i would much rather be nice
[03:02] <hollowsoul> i don't do well is social interaction
[03:03] <[Saint]> Apparently White Knight over there read tone into my reply that simply wasn't there, but, hey - it happens.
[03:03] <OerHeks> hollowsoul, what "vlan thing told me to do" ?  i read nowhere about editting sources:
[03:03] <[Saint]> I've been trying to tell you that you've already been told exactly what you have to do.
[03:03] <[Saint]> And there's even a link been provided.
[03:03] <[Saint]> install one package, run one script.
[03:03] <OerHeks> and btw, not all dvd's will work on linux.
[03:04] <OerHeks> try a 2nd dvd to test
[03:04] <hollowsoul> o ok
[03:04] <[Saint]> I'm not even sure the dvdread package has been installed yet.
[03:04] <[Saint]> I'm gonna guess no.
[03:05] <OerHeks> [Saint], yeah, i typed it all out, what could be not clear
[03:05] <[Saint]> and I'm the bad guy for being blunt about it.
[03:05] <[Saint]> such is life.
[03:05] <[Saint]> Not here to hold hands and sing songs.
[03:05] <hollowsoul> i was on a website that told me to do that
[03:05] <hollowsoul> to get some thing for vlan
[03:06] <[Saint]> yeah, well, that's nice - but OerHeks told you exactly what to do.
[03:06] <[Saint]> and you've ignored him and now are wasting time.
[03:06] <hollowsoul> ok i will try a different dvd
[03:06] <[Saint]> "sudo apt-get install libdvdread4 && sudo /usr/share/doc/libdvdread4/install-css.sh"
[03:06] <[Saint]> do it.
[03:06] <[Saint]> reboot the media player, and try a DVD.
[03:08] <[Saint]> You can try as many DVDs as you want but it won't work at all until you enter the command given above from the link given earlier.
[03:08] <linuxuz3r> linux is so nice
[03:09] <hollowsoul> thanks much help
[03:09] <hollowsoul> it works
[03:09] <OerHeks> hollowsoul, have fun
[03:09] <hollowsoul> sorry i was being a pain
[03:09] <hollowsoul> :(
[03:13] <[Saint]> Now this is the old channel I remember...being berated by people with foul mouths over PM.
[03:13] <[Saint]> Things haven't changed.
[03:14] <daftykins> !ot | [Saint]
[03:15] <[Saint]> Now guess who it was.
[03:16] <redpanda> Pando: O.o
[03:16] <di_giorgio> Mp3player [1. 31.12] CeBoLiNhA 2014
[03:17] <fallen_> whois Saint
[03:18] <lotuspsychje> good morning to all
[03:18] <daftykins> o/
[03:19] <daftykins> wb lotuspsychje
[03:19] <lotuspsychje> daftykins: hello mate
[03:19] <OerHeks> :-)
[03:19] <fallen_> lotus now there's a name I haven't heard in a while
[03:19] <lotuspsychje> OerHeks, daftykins wanna join #ubuntu-discuss ?
[03:20] <daftykins> mmm couldn't hurt
[03:25] <Osmodivs> Hello. I cant caccess my other IDE HDDs, I am in a ATA 2.5" with a 32bit system, I need to access my other 64bit Ubuntu-Gnome, but when it boots they are not reckognized in the BIOS, and in GRUB I can see something like this: Ubuntu, with Linux 3.13.0-44 generic --class ubuntu --class os 'gnu
[03:25] <rockstar_> any suggestion to mount sdcard in Ubuntu LTS?
[03:25] <rockstar_> echo 1 | sudo tee /sys/bus/pci/rescan didn't work
[03:26] <redpanda> another Pando :)
[03:28] <hkrrsx> Osmodivs: Check the IDE cable connection, re-seat and try again. If the BIOS isn't recognizing the drive, the operating system won't either.
[03:29] <Osmodivs> And when I select one of them i get this: error: no such device: (010101010 numbers and numbers<PHONE_NUMBER>01) error: hd1 cannot get C/H/S/ values error: you need to load the kernel first
[03:29] <zykotick9> hkrrsx: +1
[03:32] <Osmodivs> hkrrsx, I did that. I have to mention that I used boot fixer or grub fixer, so I could load Windows 8.1 on dual boot, wich by the way, it did not worked
[03:33] <bondrs> hi there
[03:34] <hkrrsx> Osmodivs: What's the output of "fdisk -l"? 10 out of 10 says the drive won't be there if the BIOS is still not recognizing it .... meaning this ss a hardware problem
[03:35] <hkrrsx> Osmodivs: If the BIOS still isn't recognizing the drive, try changing the IDE cable
[03:41] <zerowaitstate> this sounds like a UEFI/locked boot loader thing
[03:41] <OerHeks> UEFI and IDE? not sure that exists
[03:44] <zerowaitstate> I haven't seen an IDE box in several years
[03:44] <zerowaitstate> or PATA anyway
[03:47] <iampoz> hi everyone. I am having an issue with my computer that I am unsure about
[03:48] <iampoz> it does not respond during boot and hangs up some place
[03:48] <hkrrsx> iampoz: What's on the screen when it hangs?
[03:48] <iampoz> the only thing I have been able to pull out of it is this line: starting SMB/CIFS and active directory server           [fail]
[03:49] <iampoz> ubuntu boot screen
[03:49] <hkrrsx> iampoz: Can you boot into Recovery Mode?
[03:49] <iampoz> unless I do the recovery option in grub, then i see all the lines of services starting and such. the one above is the only one that fails
[03:49] <iampoz> after a few more lines, it just.. stops
[03:50] <iampoz> I am wondering if there are any other recovery options... If i put ubuntu 14.04 onto a stick, is there a repair option?
[03:51] <hkrrsx> iampoz: Can you get to a command prompt in Recovery Mode ?
[03:52] <iampoz> no, i dont think so. when it hangs, I can do ctrl alt F2-F8 but it just yields a small flashing courser in the top left. it does not let me do anything. F1 takes me back to the screen with all the services starting up
[03:54] <hkrrsx> iampoz: Do you have this machine with you now within arm's reach ?
[03:54] <hkrrsx> If so, please try to get into Recovery Mode and get to a terminal prompt
[03:54] <[Saint]> you could boot from a live distro and then mount the disk in the host and pivot into it.
[03:54] <iampoz> well it is just in the other room, but yeah kinda
[03:55] <hkrrsx> iampoz: Go for it. Let us know what happens.
[03:55] <iampoz> I tryed to get into recovery mode already... did not work. maybe you are meaning something else?
[03:55] <iampoz> [Saint] what do you mean "pivot into it"
[03:56] <[Saint]> pivot_root
[03:57] <delinquentme> I want to give my user "postgres" access to /mnt
[03:57] <delinquentme> should I NOT chown this to postgres?
[03:57] <hkrrsx> iampoz: I'm trying to get you to the point where you can run this command " sudo sysv-rc-conf samba off ". This should get the machine to finish booting b/c SMB/CIFS is failing.
[03:58] <hkrrsx> iampoz: You should be able to boot into single user mode with these instructions:   http://askubuntu.com/questions/132965/how-do-i-boot-into-single-user-mode-from-grub
[04:00] <iampoz> awesome, I will try that. I will report back here as soon as possible
[04:00] <hkrrsx> iampoz: Best of luck.
[04:21] <RichardBronosky> Using the default terminal... Is there a key combo to allow you to select text if you are running an app that recognizes and responds to mouse clicks?
[04:22] <RichardBronosky> jpterm (jmespath-terminal) is an example of such an app.
[04:23] <hkrrsx> RichardBronosky: Shift+Ctrl+C copies previously highlighted text in gnome-terminal
[04:23] <[Saint]> shift+ctrl+c copy
[04:23] <[Saint]> pretty sure the term even tells you that.
[04:23]  * [Saint] looks
[04:23] <[Saint]> yep, yes it does.
[04:23] <RichardBronosky> the problem is that you can't select text.
[04:24] <hkrrsx> RichardBronosky: You can use the mouse to highlight text as per usual
[04:24] <RichardBronosky> not in an urwid based app. http://excess.org/urwid/wiki/FrequentlyAskedQuestions
[04:25] <zykotick9> RichardBronosky: tmux, as an example, has shift+mouse for highlighting, i've never heard of jmespath-terminal so have no idea about it...
[04:25] <hkrrsx> RichardBronosky: So you want to use VIM-style keys to highlight text and then SHIFT+CTRL+C to copy ?
[04:26] <RichardBronosky> What it says about shift-click in that FAQ does not always work depending on how the app was coded.
[04:26] <[Saint]> ctrl+u?
[04:26] <[Saint]> and it's friend, ctrl+y
[04:27] <[Saint]> oh, hmmm. no, as assumedly you want to paste outside the term.
[04:28] <RichardBronosky> Ugh. I'm on a Mac. I wish I had an Ubuntu machine around. (I'm writing documentation and want to explain how to do this.)
[04:28] <ShrewdSpirit> hello. I've installed Elementary OS which is Ubuntu based. when I try install AMD proprietary drivers from additional drivers, it revert's back to open source drivers
[04:28] <ShrewdSpirit> sorry English isn't my native language
[04:28] <[Saint]> Its a bit of a hack but you could do "bind '"\C-p": "\C-e\C-u xsel <<"EOF"\n\C-y\nEOF\n\C-y"'"
[04:28] <OerHeks> !elementary
[04:28] <[Saint]> then "copy" with ctrl+p
[04:29] <OerHeks> elementary has its own issues ShrewdSpirit
[04:29] <[Saint]> and "paste" with "xsel"
[04:29] <ShrewdSpirit> OerHeks: thank you. I didn't know they have a channel
[04:29] <[Saint]> But that'll only select the entire line.
[04:30] <SchrodingersScat> screen has a copy mode, iirc it's ctrl-a-esc
[04:32] <RichardBronosky> yeah, that would be a work around. but I don't want to have to make the instructions for this app have to tell people to run GNU screen or modify their bindings.
[04:32] <RichardBronosky> in iterm on the mac its just "Opt+click/drag" to select without registering a click.
[04:33] <RichardBronosky> I know this is weird because MOST terminal applications are not mouse aware. This one is.
[04:33]  * hkrrsx is not familiar with substituting a keyboard key for left mouse click
[04:34] <RichardBronosky> the goal is not to use the keyboard instead of the mouse.
[04:34] <RichardBronosky> it is to instruct the terminal to not pass mouse events to the running app which is listening for mouse events.
[04:36] <RichardBronosky> I think some ncurses apps allow you to click the "buttons" using your mouse. which is like this app.
[04:36] <hkrrsx> So you want to "click" without the app recognizing that a click took place? Kinda like click cloak or something?
[04:37] <RichardBronosky> but if someone wants to copy the text on the button without clicking it, you have to stop the terminal from passing the event.
[04:37] <hkrrsx> Sorry, this sounds beyond the scope of this support channel ....
[04:38] <hkrrsx> I'm not familiar with anything that does what you're asking
[04:38] <RichardBronosky> it very well may be a shift-click. would make sense since adding shift to ctrl-c will copy and adding shift to ctrl-v will paste.
[04:39] <RichardBronosky> I don't need a tool that does this. I'm nearly positive that the terminal should be able to do this out of the box. It's just really hard to google for.
[04:42] <Codenomics> I just installed ubuntu on my machine and it is failing installing GRUB and not sure what I should do at this point
[04:43] <Codenomics> nevermind... I just accidentally hit the "finish the install" option lol
[04:44] <Codenomics> ok, so new issue then.. lol I have a fresh ubuntu install on my computer with no GRUb.
[04:45] <SchrodingersScat> !bootrepair | Codenomics ??
[04:46] <Codenomics> oh score. Thanks SchrodingersScat I was just going to load a liveCD and install grub that way
[04:46] <OerHeks> Codenomics, on what machine? UEFI bios ?
[04:46] <RichardBronosky> Thanks for the effort. I'm going to download http://virtualboxes.org/images/ubuntu/ and try it myself.
[04:47] <Codenomics> OerHeks: no clue actually... just some random dell
[04:47] <hkrrsx> RichardBronosky: Best of luck
[04:47] <Codenomics> OerHeks: new-=ish inspiron
[04:51] <thorie> anyone know why my keyboard doesn't work completely in ubuntu? i have a macbook pro running 14.04 and many keys don't work such as "o", "t", "i", "u", "y" ... but other keys work fine. if i reboot into Mac OS X of course all keys work. any ideas?
[04:52] <hkrrsx> thorie: Check your keyboard layout ?
[04:53] <cfhowlett> thorie, suspect your keyboard settings are incorrect
[04:57] <thorie> thanks, trying to change it...
[05:01] <Codenomics> stupid windows crashing
[05:06] <Codenomics> so I was just going to install GRUB from a livecd which is no big deal normally... but I have this setup with a software RAID and in the livecd it is showing all of the drives... not sure where I need to be installing this to
[05:07] <hkrrsx> Codenomics: Wouldn't the software RAID be md0 ?
[05:07] <zerowaitstate> Codenomics: software raid means the OS is doing the RAID
[05:08] <Codenomics> hkrrsx: oh yeah... herp.. Thanks
[05:08] <Codenomics> zerowaitstate: I know
[05:09] <hkrrsx> Word.
[05:09] <Codenomics> hkrrsx: yeah... that wont work if it is not booted into the OS lol
[05:11] <hkrrsx> Codenomics: I'm clearly missing something .... why are you installing GRUB on a system that you're already booted into?
[05:11] <hkrrsx> Are you using LILO or something?
[05:11] <Codenomics> I am not booted into it
[05:11] <wbill> anyone have a easy solution for being able to save multiple terminal tabs (or just have them op0en when I open terminal) i Ubuntu?
[05:12] <j_> hello, is there any way to move the panel in mint to the right or left?
[05:12] <hkrrsx> Eff. Reading comprehension was my weak spot in grade school.
[05:12] <cfhowlett> !mint | j_, ask mint.  not supported here.
[05:12] <hkrrsx> Codenomics: Check this out --  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/Installing
[05:13] <j_> oh i see thanks
[05:13] <hkrrsx> If you search that page for "mdadm", it should hopefully give you what you're looking for
[05:13] <wbill> besdies install byobu or similar?
[05:14] <Codenomics> yeah someone mentioned that to me looking into that right now
[05:18] <hollowsoul> can some one help me with getting wow to work on ubuntu
[05:18] <hollowsoul> i am running it with wine
[05:18] <hkrrsx> wbill: This was the only thing I found in a search for your issue -- http://askubuntu.com/questions/310705/some-fast-way-to-save-and-restore-tabs-of-terminal#310750
[05:19] <cfhowlett> hollowsoul, http://r.search.yahoo.com/_ylt=AwrTccE5ACpVMd0ATUknnIlQ;_ylu=X3oDMTByb3B2a242BHNlYwNzcgRwb3MDMwRjb2xvA2dxMQR2dGlkAw--/RV=2/RE=1428844729/RO=10/RU=https%3a%2f%2fhelp.ubuntu.com%2fcommunity%2fWorldofWarcraft/RK=0/RS=M7BuVwPhzx7SK7ILynje2J4Qdow-
[05:21] <iampoz> hkrrsx, that did not work
[05:22] <hkrrsx> iampoz: So you turned off samba, rebooted your machine and it still failed?
[05:23] <iampoz> i set it to single and it still hung up. but I saw three more failed lines. I tryed to take a video of it but it is so fast... I am putting the video on my computer now and try to make out the text
[05:24] <hkrrsx> iampoz: Do me a favor, do those steps all over again but with 1 difference
[05:24] <hkrrsx> At the end where you typed "single", type in " init=/bin/bash "
[05:24] <hkrrsx> Then boot and you should get to a command prompt before any services start
[05:24] <iampoz> okay, do i still also put 'single'?
[05:25] <hkrrsx> No, replace single with init=/bin/bash
[05:25] <hkrrsx> Afterwards, turn off Samba and reboot normally
[05:25] <iampoz> okay
[05:28] <wbill> ok ty
[05:28] <wbill> thanks hkrrsx
[05:28] <hkrrsx> wbill: You're welcome
[05:29] <iampoz> hkrrsx, okay i got to a command line, root@(none):/# with a flashing cursor, but I can not type any text... my keyboard is lit up so it appears to be working... but nothing shows up when I type
[05:30] <hkrrsx> Unplug and replug the keyboard?
[05:30] <iampoz> okay
[05:32] <iampoz> still nothing. there are two lines above the command line... "bash: cannot set terminal process group (-1): Inappropriate loctl for device" && "bash: no job control in this shell"
[05:33] <hkrrsx> Can you CTRL+ALT+DEL to reboot the machine gracefully? Even though nothing's being outputted to the screen
[05:33] <hollowsoul> how do i reinstall msfonts
[05:34] <iampoz> no, no effect
[05:34] <iampoz> I am uploading a picture with the failed lines during the "single" attempt
[05:35] <hkrrsx> iampoz: Great, afterwards, please power down the Ubuntu machine by holding the power button down until the machine turns off
[05:35] <ilken> ctrl+alt+F1
[05:35] <hkrrsx> Then bring it back up normally
[05:35] <iampoz> http://picbin.org/src/943
[05:36] <hkrrsx> hollowsoul: Try " sudo apt-get install --reinstall msttcorefonts "
[05:36] <hkrrsx> http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/how-to-install-microsoft-core-fonts-in-ubuntu-linux/
[05:37] <OerHeks> hollowsoul, msfonts are part of restricted extras
[05:37] <hollowsoul> o ok
[05:37] <hkrrsx> iampoz: That picture continues the boot process even though a couple of things fail
[05:39] <iampoz> hkrrsx, that is true. but then it just stops... I will grab a photo of it when it stops on my next attempt
[05:39] <hkrrsx> iampoz: Please get a clear photo .... the 1st one is pretty difficult to ready
[05:39] <hkrrsx> read*
[05:40] <iampoz> hkrrsx, what am I supposed to do when I bring it back on normally?
[05:40] <hkrrsx> Well, you said it was freezing at a certain point and that you'd get a picture of it .... I'll wait for that
[05:41] <hkrrsx> iampoz: We only really need the last dozen lines or so
[05:41] <iampoz> I know, i have a recoding of it, I skipped frame by frame until I for a clean shot of the failed lines. it goes to fast to get a clean shot of that screen, but there are a few lines on the last one... I will get a picture of that right now.
[05:41] <iampoz> okay
[05:41] <q_zone> can someone help me with a permission issue?
[05:41] <hkrrsx> iampoz: Thanks
[05:41] <dreamon> Using Ubuntu 14.04 and encfs crypted /home partition and a normal / partition on SSD. if I install 14.04 from new on SSD, how can I do so /home is mounted automatic like before? I dont want to format /home just mounted again like before
[05:42] <hkrrsx> !ask | q_zone
[05:43] <q_zone> i can't view pictures in my browser while testing a project.What is the permission missing?
[05:43] <malkauns> !patience
[05:43] <hkrrsx> q_zone: Are these pictures on your local computer or on a website somewhere?
[05:44] <q_zone> yeah,in my local computer
[05:44] <iampoz> hkrrsx, here it is: http://picbin.org/src/944
[05:44] <hkrrsx> Try " file:///path/to/picture " .... note, there are 3 forward slashes in file:///
[05:45] <hkrrsx> q_zone: That's just to test if the picture will come up alone outside of your website coding
[05:45] <OerHeks> q_zone, maybe you need some codecs and webstuff, did you install restricted extras ?
[05:45] <hkrrsx> iampoz: Excellent picture, thank you
[05:45] <hkrrsx> iampoz: What happens if you boot your computer with the network cables unplugged?
[05:47] <q_zone> hkrrsx: I get the following message ,when i tested the image :https://dpaste.de/Mowv
[05:48] <hkrrsx> q_zone: chmod  755 /shopping_cart/images/*.jpg
[05:49] <hkrrsx> q_zone: You might want to repeat that command for *.png as well, if you have those types of images in that folder
[05:50] <q_zone> hkrrsx: yeah,it worked ...thanks
[05:50] <hkrrsx> q_zone: You're welcome
[05:52] <cool_boy> hi
[05:52] <cool_boy> how to connect ipv6 through ssh
[05:52] <cool_boy> ?
[05:52] <hkrrsx> cool_boy: The same way you'd connect via ipv4 only with an ipv6 address
[05:53] <hkrrsx> cool_boy: Does the SSH server have an IPv6 address ?
[05:55] <cool_boy> hkrrsx: I am not getting how to coneect with this server, all I can see is only this screen http://postimg.org/image/efum9a42f/
[05:55] <iampoz> hkrrsx, with out the network connected, it stops at the third last line, the one about plymouth and ends in respawning.
[05:56] <iampoz> also a few more lines appeared on the screen when I went to go reboot without network. I am putting those on picbin now
[05:56] <cool_boy> hkrrsx: thanks, I found way ?)
[05:58] <hkrrsx> cool_boy: Excellent, I was about to give you this YouTube video:   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LJghYtfnkEc
[05:58] <omich> how I can recovery deleted ntfs partition? testdisk didn't help
[05:58] <iampoz> hkrrsx: http://picbin.org/src/945 - this is after it was left for about 5 mins or so
[05:58] <cool_boy> :)
[05:58] <cool_boy> thanks
[05:59] <iampoz> hkrrsx, this is without network: http://picbin.org/src/946
[05:59] <cool_boy> htop is not standard command of ubuntu
[05:59] <cool_boy> ?
[05:59] <scrapcode> I have a folder on my desktop that is empty, properties says "Free Space: 2.5GB of 85.8GB (97% used)
[05:59] <hkrrsx> iampoz: Checking
[05:59] <NegativeFlare> cool_boy: no, but I wish it was xD
[05:59] <hkrrsx> cool_boy: No, htop has to be installed after-the-fact
[06:00] <cool_boy> NegativeFlare: now I am also in wish list :)
[06:00] <NegativeFlare> heh
[06:01] <lennonfan> :)
[06:02] <hkrrsx> iampoz: Have a look at this thread, #8 is the hopeful solution
[06:02] <hkrrsx> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2218100&p=13015297#post13015297
[06:03] <iampoz> haha I was just reading that.
[06:03] <hkrrsx> Wait .... you can't type in single user mode, can you?
[06:03] <omich> hey
[06:03] <goeranh> hi
[06:04] <hkrrsx> omich: goeranh: Welcome
[06:04] <goeranh> ty
[06:04] <nhat> hi
[06:04] <omich> how I can recovery deleted ntfs partition? testdisk didn't help
[06:04] <hkrrsx> iampoz: Perhaps if you boot from a LiveCD, mount your hard drive and then made the modifications that way
[06:04] <iampoz> no, I can not type in any mode so far
[06:05] <iampoz> ahh, that is a good idea
[06:05] <cool_boy> also can`t we get htop from apt-get? I am trying sudo apt-get install htop but I get "E: Unable to locate package htop"
[06:05] <hkrrsx> iampoz: Give it a shot and see what happens
[06:05] <hkrrsx> iampoz: I hope something works for you soon b/c I'm running out of options
[06:05] <goeranh> use gparted
[06:06] <iampoz> there are a number of things I can try in that thread
[06:07] <goeranh> yes
[06:07] <hkrrsx> Sorry, I logged myself out w/ a keyboard shortcut
[06:07] <nhat> exit
[06:12] <[Saint]> cool_boy: it *is* available.
[06:12] <iampoz> now I just have to remember how to make a ubuntu stick... but it is 12 so I have to go to bed
[06:13] <iampoz> hkrrsx, do you work for canonical?
[06:13] <hkrrsx> iampoz: I do not
[06:13] <[Saint]> cool_boy: see? http://pastebin.com/SwCkvHPR
[06:13] <hkrrsx> I work for a web hosting company in my hometown
[06:13] <[Saint]> Ah crap, I snipped off the install line.
[06:14] <[Saint]> either way, htop is definitely an installable package in a default install.
[06:14] <iampoz> in that case, I appreciate your assistance even more so
[06:14] <[Saint]> just ask apt-cache about it.
[06:14] <[Saint]> "apt-cacahe search htop"
[06:14] <hkrrsx> iampoz: I hope it goes well for you
[06:15] <iampoz> thanks a lot! hopefully I figure it out tomorrow. it will take a few days to get my machine back to how I like it...
[06:15] <iampoz> if I have to reformat it, i mean...
[06:15] <iampoz> bye!
[06:15] <hkrrsx> cool_boy: It's in the Universe repository but here's the packages.ubuntu.com URL
[06:15] <hkrrsx> http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=htop&searchon=names&suite=trusty&section=all
[06:15] <[Saint]> Next time: backups.
[06:15] <cool_boy> [Saint]: thanks, after upgrade its working now
[06:16] <cool_boy> thanks hkrrsx , got it working
[06:16]  * hollowsoul crying right now
[06:16] <hkrrsx> Marvelous
[06:17] <hollowsoul> how do i reinstall ubuntu
[06:17] <hollowsoul> i need a fresh copy
[06:17] <[Saint]> Samw way you instaleld it the first time.
[06:18] <iampoz> haha, yes. I should have made a back up. I was lazy. I knew as I was messing around with it today: "you should clone your system before you do this..." but then I was like "nah, it will be fine... I am sure of it..." I am not sure why, it is never fine.  - Unknown
[06:18] <hkrrsx> :)
[06:19] <[Saint]> I...what?
[06:19] <iampoz> I am the back up guy 95% of the time... it is that 5% that gets me every time.
[06:28] <hkrrsx> I'm done for tonight
[06:28] <hkrrsx> Night
[06:30] <shyni> hello
[06:30] <shyni> earlier I reinstalled my Ubuntu distro because it couldn't detect any USB devices
[06:30] <shyni> things were working again
[06:30] <shyni> but now I have the same problem all over again after updating
[06:31] <shyni> so I'm assuming something went wrong with the update
[06:31] <shyni> I think I started having this problem after updating last night
[06:32] <shyni> was there anything potentially breaking in the recent updates?
[06:33] <varaindemian> is there any other way I can enable hardware  acceleration without installing proprietary drivers?
[06:34] <varaindemian> I have ATI Radeon 8600m series
[06:34] <varaindemian> On 14.10 I have hardware acc by default but this is not case of 14.04.2
[06:35] <varaindemian> I have some visual glitches when I move windows and when I scroll
[06:45] <shyni> http://pastebin.com/zeepayd5 okay, looking at the dmesg output, this thing /is/ detecting the devices
[06:45] <shyni> but not doing anything with them
[06:53] <shyni> uh
[06:53] <shyni> is anyone here?
[06:53] <Elench> I'm here, though I don't know if I'm likely to be able to help
[06:55] <shyni> well, my computer can't detect any usb devices
[06:55] <shyni> none of them appear in lsusb
[06:55] <shyni> but dmesg turns up at least one
[06:56] <shyni> this is definitely a software thing
[06:56] <shyni> since it can detect devices when I booted from a liveusb
[06:56] <shyni> and things worked after I reinstalled Ubuntu
[06:56] <shyni> but then it stopped working after I updated
[06:56] <aeon-ltd> guessing here, but maybe some kind of security measure?
[06:57] <shyni> what kind would disable all usb devices?
[06:57] <aeon-ltd> no idea
[06:57] <aeon-ltd> do keyboard and mouse work?
[06:58] <shyni> built-in keyboard and trackpad work
[06:58] <shyni> usb mouse lights up
[06:58] <shyni> but does nothing
[07:00] <shyni> http://pastebin.com/zeepayd5 here's the dmesg log
[07:01] <shyni> "[    1.760250] usb 2-1: New USB device strings: Mfr=0, Product=1, SerialNumber=0
[07:01] <shyni> [    1.760253] usb 2-1: Product:  USB OPTICAL MOUSE"
[07:01] <shyni> the mouse does not show up in lsusb
[07:06] <brunch875> Good morning in the morning!
[07:08] <mehdi> hey guys, well adobe embargoed my country and i cant install flash player but i managed to get libflashplayer.so, where should i put this file in order to be used system-wide
[07:08] <mehdi> i dont want it to be available on firefox only
[07:08] <shyni> http://askubuntu.com/questions/608289/usb-devices-not-detected I asked on askubuntu
[07:38] <fendell> hello, is there a problem with the se.archive.ubuntu.com (<IP_ADDRESS>) apt-get update stops there for me atm
[07:40] <gunnar> fendell: Have you tried pingin that ip address
[07:41] <fendell> gunnar, yes no response just have to wait until its up agian?
[07:42] <gunnar> Yeah, since your internet connection is up and running it just means that server is down.  Just use another mirror.
[07:43] <gunnar> fendell: I raan into the same situation with a local mirror for me.  These kind of mirror don't sem to have a long life cycle.  :)
[07:44] <fendell> gunnar, well this is my first time something like this has happened. But easy fix, thanks gunnar
[07:44] <gunnar> fendel: No worries, stay strong! :P
[07:45] <gunnar> fendell: No worries, stay strong! :P
[07:47] <geirha> fendell: You could try #ubuntu-se  maybe someone knows someone who knows someone who maintains the mirror :)
[07:47] <geirha> If you are impatient, you can switch to the main archive though
[07:48] <gunnar> Seems like he alreadyd did that, so problem solved as far as he's concerned.  Right?
[07:54] <Gregor3000> hello. i have a porblme. the fan on the GPU is not spinning when i turn on the PC. yesterday i opened it to see why it's so quiet and why some games are freezing. i saw the fan was still. when iexited the game (minecraft) the fan started spinning. i think it hsoul dbe cooling off the cvard form the start as it is otherwise getting very hot.
[07:54] <Gregor3000> even the fan itself is hot
[07:54] <Gregor3000> is theer somethign i missed? opensource radeon drivers
[07:54] <Gregor3000> very old card
[07:56] <OerHeks> Gregor3000, first check your Bios, for fan settings
[07:57] <OerHeks> without proper drivers, your fans should run 100%
[07:57] <OerHeks> !lmsensors
[07:58] <gunnar> Gregor3000:  Not sure if it's related, but I have the same problem on my box using several different cards.  I just slapped an old geforce 2 or something in there that only has a heatsync.
[07:58] <francesco_> cenerentola
[07:58] <MichaelHabib> Hi. is this a good place to get info on how to setup a basic home DNS server (Webmin + Bind) ?
[07:59] <MichaelHabib> I have ubuntu server + apache setup ready which I can access from IP adress
[07:59] <gunnar> MichaelHabib:  Read the ubuntu server guide.  It pretty much covers what you're trying to do.
[08:00] <MichaelHabib> gunnar: ty, will look into it
[08:01] <gunnar> No prob
[08:02] <vagelis> Good morning everyone.
[08:02] <maysara> Hi, I installed linux kernel 3.16. Is it okay to remove 3.13 packages and keep linux-*-lts-utopic packages? I'm using Ubuntu 14.04 LTS
[08:04] <vagelis> I have some graphic problems with my new laptop. I installed ubuntu 14.04 LTS. My laptop has Intel hd graphics and AMD radeon card. The problem is that sometimes I see strange things in windows or in the browser etc its like when a graphics cards is alsmost dying and I beleive it has to do something with drivers. Also I do not see some characters, for exampe in titles of windows.
[08:04] <gunnar> maysara:  If you booted up on the new kernel I don't see any reason why not.  But don't hold me to that.
[08:05] <vagelis> For example now when i type here a message Instead of vagelis I see va elis
[08:05] <MichaelHabib> gunnar: i have another question, as this is my 1st time doing this & this is a home setup.
[08:05] <MichaelHabib> Will It be possible to point my computer to the DNS (Its a VM) so I can enter a domain name on my PC and it get resolved by this DNS server and look for the "fake" domain names I setup ?
[08:05] <OerHeks> maysara, you cannot delete current and precious kernel ( for recovery mode), all other kernels no problem
[08:05] <OerHeks> *previous
[08:06] <gunnar> MichaelHabib: Yes, you can just make a small domain for your group of PC's.
[08:06] <maysara> OerHeks: so both 3.13 and 3.16 kernels have to be installed?
[08:07] <gunnar> MichaelHabib: I've never tried it though and it will only work on your local lan.  Not from the wan.
[08:07] <OerHeks> maysara, if 3.13 is you previous kernel, yes
[08:07] <MichaelHabib> gunnar: thats all I need, lan access so I can also setup virtual hosts and test some software.
[08:07] <francesco__> cenerentola
[08:08] <francesco__> download cenerentola
[08:09] <gunnar> MichaelHabib: The server guide addresses how to set up a domain, however I don't know how the VM interacts with your OS.  So you might have to bridge the virtual adapter of the VM to the physical NIC.
[08:09] <OerHeks> francesco__, what is "cenerentola"  ? url ?
[08:09] <MichaelHabib> gunnar: its already bridged :)
[08:10] <Gregor3000> OerHeks: i rescanned with sensors. lets see if it will work now or not. motherboard is strange it seems. i wanted to install new GPU and couldn't get any to run. AMD didn't run at all (new ones dont' run on PCIe1.1), nvidia ran opensource only with poor performance while their drivers were rubish (no screen). already returned btoh card and now i am back to the old ATI one :-(
[08:11] <MichaelHabib> gunnar: the VM has its own IP <IP_ADDRESS>  & I can access apache using this IP, but cant seem to find the correct way to setup DNS. I have changed the Primary DNS on my PC to that of the DNS server but I think something wron with my DNS config as the domain is not getting resolved
[08:11] <Gregor3000> nvidia support didnt' have a clue what is wrong
[08:13] <gunnar> MichaelHabib: You're going to have to tell your DNS server which domain names get translated into what.  If it doesn't have that info it naturally wont be doing anything.  Again the ubuntu server guide can help.  Just check out the part about making a caching DNS server.
[08:14] <OerHeks> Gregor3000, so you have a new pcix card in a 1.1 slot? that could be your issue, i have no solution for that
[08:14] <varaindemian> How can I edit swappiness
[08:15] <rexuss> varaindemian: http://askubuntu.com/questions/103915/how-do-i-configure-swappiness
[08:16] <deepu-vc> hi need help in adding kali linux tools to ubuntu please help
[08:17] <Gregor3000> OerHeks: nope. none of them worked. so i am back to old ATI radeon 9600 XT AGP card that worked with minecraft at least. if not much else...
[08:18] <rexuss> deepu-vc: have you tried this: http://malwaretips.com/threads/how-to-add-kali-linux-repositories-in-ubuntu.31312/
[08:20] <deepu-vc> rexuss i will try it and get back
[08:20] <OerHeks> !kali | deepu-vc
[08:20] <deepu-vc> do any one knows which is the best hacking channel in irc
[08:21] <OerHeks> deepu-vc, we dont support hacking.
[08:21] <maysara> OerHeks, gunnar: Thank you :)
[08:22] <OerHeks> maysara, have fun :-)
[08:22] <rexuss> deepu-vc: more importantly, google it first.
[08:23] <OerHeks> !rootirc | katherine
[08:24] <katherine> hehe, thanks for the heads up OerHeks, but I am not really running as root :)
[08:25] <OerHeks> oke, good
[08:27] <nalum> Hello all, I'm trying to setup the Nvidia NVS 510, but when I plug my monitor into it the monitor says there is no signal. The card is picked up by the Nvidia X Server Settings.
[08:28] <gunnar> nalum: Are you sure your X server is sending data to the correct display port?  NVS 510 is a multi monitor card right?
[08:29] <gunnar> nalum: Have you tried connecting your vga cable to another port on the card?
[08:29] <nalum> it is yes, I've tried the monitor in all ports
[08:30] <gunnar> nalum: Does your motherboard have an internal graphics card? If so have you disabled it via your bios?
[08:30] <nalum> The monitor works fine with my GTX 580 and I've verified that the convertor from DVI to display port works
[08:31] <nalum> The mother board is the rampage v extreme, it doesn't have a display port on it so I assumed it doesn't have built in graphics
[08:31] <gunnar> nalum: Ok
[08:31] <nalum> I can't see anything in the bios about displays either
[08:32] <OerHeks> nalum, Nvidia NVS 510, is supported by 346.59 or higher
[08:33] <OerHeks> i think you need the xorg edgers ppa for that ?
[08:33] <gunnar> nalum: Am i correct in assuming that you haven't made any changes to your xorg config between switching graphics cards?
[08:33] <nalum> gunnar: yes, I haven't made any changes to it.
[08:34] <gunnar> nalum: I'm no expert but I think that could be your problem.  Could you try running nvidia-xconfig as root with the NVS 510 inserted?
[08:34] <nalum> OerHeks: I have 304.125 installed. What is that ppa?
[08:35] <nalum> gunnar: I'll try that now
[08:35] <gunnar> nalum: OerHeks is right too, it could be that the driver version your running doesn't support the NVS 510.
[08:37] <OerHeks> https://launchpad.net/~xorg-edgers/+archive/ubuntu/ppa
[08:46] <francesco_> XChat: /load .xchat2/budus.so
[08:46] <francesco_>  /load .xchat2/budus.so
[08:48] <francesco_> cenerentola
[08:48] <coder_> #wget
[08:48] <OerHeks> !it | francesco_
[08:49] <francesco_> ATTENZIONE: Non e' stata intercettata la versione originale di lynx.
[08:49] <francesco_> Questo script e' in grado di funzionare sono con lynx e non links2.
[08:49] <nalum> gunnar, OerHeks: that hasn't worked, is there anything else I can look into on it?
[08:50] <gunnar> nalum:  Did you try download and building that ppa Orehes was talking about?
[08:50] <gunnar> OerHeks*
[08:50] <nalum> I used the additional drivers app to install it
[08:51] <OerHeks> nalum, that ppa gives the latest nvidia driver ( that will be included in vivid 15.04)
[08:51] <OerHeks> and then you find it in the same additional drivers tab
[08:51] <nalum> I have it installed
[08:51] <nalum> But the monitor is still not getting a signal
[08:52] <gunnar> and selected as the currently used drive in the additional drivers program?
[08:52] <gunnar> the ppa versionÐ
[08:52] <nalum> yes
[08:52] <nalum> I also ran the nvidia-xconfig command after the system rebooted
[08:53] <francesco_> welcom
[08:53] <gunnar> ahh this is getting clearer.  So you already have a monitor connected to the NVS 510, and your trying to configur an additional one?
[08:54] <francesco_> cenerentola
[08:54] <lotuspsychje> !it | francesco_
[08:54] <TheUndertaker> DasEi:hi
[08:55] <OerHeks> francesco_, please stop this one word lines, we don't know what you want, explain please
[08:55] <nalum> No, I only have one monitor available to me at the moment. So I have the GTX 580 installed and running fine. I have the NSV 510 installed also in another PCIE slot and I switch the monitor out of the GTX 580 to the NVS 510 to test it.
[08:56] <gunnar> so you have both cards physicly connected at the same time?
[08:56] <nalum> yes
[08:56] <nalum> and both are picked up by the settings app
[08:56] <gunnar> Try taking the GTX 580 out of the box, and rebooting.
[08:57] <nalum> Okay, will do that now
[08:57] <nalum> Hope it works. I've done it many times already, but not with the latest drivers from that ppa obviouly
[08:58] <gunnar> fingers crossed*
[08:58] <lotuspsychje> k1l: morning mate
[09:02] <gunnar> OerHeks: apparently cenerentola is cinderella in Italian?
[09:03] <Nokaji> Hi - I'm unable to change the icon-'FONT' in file menu, seems stuck around 6~8px. I've tweaked all four font settings and rebooted more times than I have fingers
[09:06] <OerHeks> gunnar, yes, i think so, but what would that be?
[09:06] <nalum> Ah, think I might have found it. So the display I have on hand is VGA, the convertor is DVI to MiniDisplay so I have a VGA to DIV between them and that seems to be where the problem is. I have just tried that setup on my macbook pro, which is seeing the monitor but the monitor is not getting the display.
[09:06] <lotuspsychje> !yay | nalum
[09:07] <nalum> Now I just need to verify that with a DVI monitor
[09:10] <gunnar> nalum: Not sure if helped you at all, but good you're making progress.
[09:11] <gunnar> OerHeks:  Maybe he's trying to start a bot or something...
[09:14] <robynata> :-D
[09:15] <yaclm> Hello! My laptop lags after startup and there is a huge delay for mouse and keyboard inputs. htop shows 50% cpu load (kernel) but doesn't show which command causes this huge load. any hints, keywords, solutions?
[09:15] <mouseover> Googling suggest that getting wireless to work on Broadcom cards requires another package ( bcmwl-kernel-source ). But the page here seems dead? http://packages.ubuntu.com/utopic/bcmwl-kernel-source
[09:18] <lotuspsychje> yaclm: ubuntu version?
[09:18] <nalum> gunnar: ya got me thinking, that's help enough :D
[09:19] <lotuspsychje> !info bcmwl-kernel-source | mouseover
[09:24] <Exagone313> Hello, I try to install "awesome" on Ubuntu server. First, I installed the package awesome, and after reboot I had a tty. So I installed lightdm, reboot, and I see the GUI of Unity connection, and when I write my password, it says "failed to start session". Also, I've a resolution problem that I didn't have before installing lightdm, both on tty and lightdm interface. My screen is like...
[09:24] <Exagone313> ..."zoomed". What can I do? Thanks for helping.
[09:27] <lotuspsychje> Exagone313: maybe the #awesome or #ubuntu-server guys might know?
[09:28] <Exagone313> ok
[09:28] <lotuspsychje> Exagone313: your endgoal is a window manager on ubuntu server?
[09:28] <Exagone313> yes
[09:29] <guestzzzz123> hi guys, are some vi masters in here?
[09:29] <Exagone313> it's not a server, i just don't want kde/gnome/unity/cinnamon/mate etc
[09:29] <lotuspsychje> Exagone313: maybe blackbox, or e17 are alternatives?
[09:29] <guestzzzz123> don't get why 2dd == d2d
[09:29] <Exagone313> but I want awesome
[09:30] <lotuspsychje> okay
[09:30] <Exagone313> I think I'm missing something, but idk what
[09:30] <mouseover> How do I know which packages are found on the Ubuntu install CD?
[09:31] <lotuspsychje> Exagone313: maybe press F1 at boot to see booting process, perhaps it will show usefull errors?
[09:31] <goeranh> read theyr website
[09:31] <Exagone313> apparently, it does not need "lightdm" but "lightdm-gtk-greeter"
[09:31] <lotuspsychje> Exagone313: or syslog/dmesg logs
[09:31] <Exagone313> the problem is my screen resolution, it is zoomed
[09:31] <mouseover> goeranh: I was looking, but where?
[09:31] <Exagone313> i can't see the topest/leftest
[09:31] <goeranh> idk sorry
[09:31] <goeranh> wait
[09:31] <Exagone313> with vim I can add spaces, but with tail I cannot
[09:32] <Exagone313> I won't use vim on syslog :)
[09:32] <lotuspsychje> Exagone313: maybe play with xrandr?
[09:32] <lotuspsychje> !xrandr | Exagone313
[09:33] <Exagone313> with xrandr, it says that no screen is available, sometyhing like that
[09:33] <lotuspsychje> hmm
[09:33] <Exagone313> in ctrl+alt+f7 there is lightdm started
[09:33] <Exagone313> but I can't log in here, and I can't open a terminal
[09:34] <lotuspsychje> Exagone313: not sure exactly , never played with awesome before
[09:34] <goeranh> mouseover: http://packages.ubuntu.com/
[09:35] <goeranh> goto standard packages
[09:35] <Exagone313> the screen resolution problem appears also in unity and kde
[09:35] <Exagone313> with an older installation, I had the same problem
[09:36] <lotuspsychje> Exagone313: wich ubuntu base/version are you using exactly?
[09:36] <Exagone313> i try to remove lightdm and install lightdm-gtk-greeter
[09:36] <Exagone313> ubuntu server 14.04.2
[09:36] <lotuspsychje> k
[09:36] <Exagone313> I come back, since it is a dual boot
[09:38] <yabbes> is there a way i can list subfolders with "ls" according to their relative size and make this recursive :) ?
[09:38] <mouseover> goeranh: Sorry, I clicked on "utopic" but I dont see "standard" anywhere?
[09:38] <goeranh> no there is an search panel
[09:39] <mouseover> goeranh: and what search string do I use?
[09:39] <goeranh> preinstalled or something like this
[09:39] <goeranh> try out
[09:40] <basichash> how can i put a .iso onto a usb?
[09:40] <basichash> always forget the command
[09:40] <lotuspsychje> basichash: an iso with what on it?
[09:41] <goeranh> usb installer
[09:41] <basichash> ubuntu-based distro
[09:41] <goeranh> its preinstalled
[09:41] <goeranh> goto dash and enter usb
[09:41] <basichash> h
[09:41] <basichash> ah*
[09:41] <basichash> thanks
[09:41] <goeranh> np
[09:42] <Guest22031> i think you must format you usb device and copy your iso on usb and after reboot on usb device
[09:42] <goeranh> thats automaticaly done
[09:42] <Guest22031> i also think you must have only the iso on your usb
[09:42] <goeranh> nope an iso is an archive and u need an programm to copy/install it
[09:42] <goeranh> nope
[09:43] <gr33n7007h> basichash: dd if=whatever.iso of=/dev/sdX bs=512k # if you wanna know :)
[09:43] <Guest22031> ok sorry
[09:43] <basichash> gr33n7007h: thanks ;)
[09:43] <basichash> is that basically what disk creator does?
[09:44] <goeranh> gr33n7007h, sure u can do it by commandline
[09:44] <goeranh> yes it is
[09:44] <goeranh> but its not graphical
[09:44] <gr33n7007h> goeranh: i'm just a term freak :)
[09:44] <Guest22031> can you tell me how to stabilise my cpu utilisation on my computer
[09:44] <goeranh> ...
[09:44] <basichash> goeranh: i'm more used to cli than GUI
[09:44] <goeranh> xD
[09:44] <Guest22031> ??
[09:44] <Guest22031> please
[09:44] <basichash> hate GUI tbh
[09:45] <goeranh> im new to linux xD
[09:45] <goeranh> i had windows bevore
[09:45] <goeranh> and its so much better
[09:45] <goeranh> and easyer
[09:45] <gunnar> Guest22031: Are you using a mobile cpu?
[09:46] <gunnar> Guest22031: If so apm can help with cpu governors.
[09:47] <basichash> goeranh: depends what you want from your OS
[09:47] <goeranh> should be fast
[09:47] <gunnar> Guest22031: Though you may need to recompile your kernel to implement it.  And it only works for mobile cpu's
[09:48] <mouseover> goeranh: I couldnt find it there, but I did find it here: http://releases.ubuntu.com/14.10/ubuntu-14.10-desktop-i386.list
[09:48] <mouseover> Just for your future reference
[09:48] <goeranh> ok thanks
[09:48] <lotuspsychje> mouseover: what are you trying to find as package exactly?
[09:48] <goeranh> preinstalled package list
[09:49] <goeranh> u can also download package links (something.deb)
[09:50] <mouseover> lotuspsychje: I want to install my wireless drivers (bcm-kernel-source) from the Ubuntu CD (because I dont have an internet connection).
[09:50] <Guest22031> i use 4 CPUs and i have picks on differents cpu i would like to regularise that
[09:50] <lotuspsychje> mouseover: you can add the cdrom to sources
[09:50] <mouseover> goeranh: I did download the .deb file, but it has a tree of dependencies
[09:50] <goeranh> ohh
[09:51] <Guest22031> i dont now if you can anderstand me??
[09:51] <mouseover> lotuspsychje: Correct, however, I first need to know if the CDROM has the package to begin with... hence I was looking for a list of packages that are included on the CD.
[09:51] <lotuspsychje> mouseover: cant you use an eth0 cable to download wifi drivers?
[09:51] <mouseover> lotuspsychje: Nope :(
[09:51] <Hanumaan_> I have a following configuration in HDD unable to do dual boot Windows and Ubuntu http://paste.ubuntu.com/10807399/
[09:51] <gunnar> Guest22031: Do you mean you have four physical processors or a quad core?
[09:51] <goeranh> mouseover, are u on an laptop?
[09:51] <Guest22031> in  the system monitor i have the frequency curve
[09:52] <goeranh> using laptop edition?
[09:52] <mouseover> lotuspsychje: btw, if I add the CD to sources, do you know how dependencies are handled?
[09:52] <basichash> what do i set the partition type to?
[09:52] <mouseover> goeranh: Yes
[09:52] <Guest22031> yes
[09:52] <goeranh> then it is on ur cd
[09:52] <goeranh> i also use it
[09:52] <lotuspsychje> mouseover: normally when you add the cdrom to sources, you can browse packages with software centre or synaptic
[09:52] <mouseover> goeranh: I actually am using Lubuntu CD, not Ubuntu
[09:53] <goeranh> ok
[09:53] <gunnar> Guest22031: I'm sorry, I don't understand what you're trying to do.
[09:53] <Guest22031> i think i have a quad core
[09:53] <basichash> gr33n7007h: which partition type should i use?
[09:53] <basichash> W95 FAT32?
[09:53] <lotuspsychje> !dualboot | Hanumaan_
[09:54] <lotuspsychje> !uefi > Hanumaan_
[09:54] <goeranh> basichash,  use ext2
[09:54] <gr33n7007h> basichash: you don't have to format or anything
[09:55] <Guest22031> i want to have regular curve in system monitor of my cpu
[09:55] <goeranh> or just use re33n7007hs command
[09:55] <basichash> gr33n7007h: just enable the bootable flag?
[09:55] <gr33n7007h> basichash: you don't even have to do that
[09:55] <basichash> oh ok, thanks
[09:56] <gunnar> Guest22031: I'm guessing here that you want to distribute the load on all 4 cores?  If so that is probably not possible 'cause programs are coded to utilize the processors in different ways.
[09:57] <gunnar> Guest22031: Google 'threading'
[09:57] <gr33n7007h> basichash: it basically copies the image byte for byte
[09:57] <goeranh> and when its done its bootable
[09:58] <Guest22031> ok i thind this topic can you explain me want do you think of that ?? http://doc.ubuntu-fr.org/cpu-frequtils
[09:58] <gr33n7007h> goeranh: yep
[09:58] <goeranh> i messed around with it at the begin bevore i  chosed ubuntu
[09:59] <goeranh> its the same on other distros
[10:00] <gunnar> Guest22031: It seems that CPU-Frequtils, as powernowd no longer work from Ubuntu 12.04. These utilities are replaced by Jupiter: an energy manager
[10:00] <lotuspsychje> !info indicator-cpufreq | Guest22031
[10:00] <Guest22031> attention i don't use this topic i don't now if it's realy ok
[10:01] <Guest22031> ok thanks i check it
[10:02] <gunnar> Hope it helps.
[10:04] <gunnar> Also this: http://askubuntu.com/questions/455687/how-to-run-cpufreqd-in-ubuntu-14-04
[10:04] <Exagone313> I tried to install lightdm-gtk-greeter, and now it starts on a tty, so I don't what to do
[10:04] <Exagone313> i go to #awesome
[10:05] <Guest22031> thanks i runnig cpu utils i look at the evolution if i see you later i inform you of the evolution
[10:06] <Guest22031> by
[10:14] <asghar__> can i install openstack without maas ?
[10:17] <OerHeks> asghar__, no http://www.ubuntu.com/download/cloud/install-ubuntu-openstack
[10:41] <Hereforcoding> hi...
[10:41] <Hereforcoding> I need help in setting proxy in ubuntu
[10:42] <Hereforcoding> I am not able to run sudo apt-get update and all othere network related in terminal
[10:42] <gunnar> https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/serverguide/
[10:47] <ioria> gparted crashed with external hhd  : dmesg | grep gparted
[10:47] <ioria> [ 1121.558065] gpartedbin[2418]: segfault at 0 ip   (null) sp b0aa6e90 error 4 in gpartedbin[8048000+118000]
[10:50] <gunnar> http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/segmentation-fault-on-linux-unix.html
[10:51] <ioria> gunnar: thanx maybe is lett. d) -faulty hardware-  because usually gparted works.
[10:52] <ioria> but the drive seems to works... read and write
[10:52] <ioria> this is worst scenario... because i'm tempted to use it
[10:53] <gunnar> ioria:  Perhaps a tired memmory chip?
[10:54] <ioria> gunnar: right. it'a and old sata drive recuperated  by a hp pavillion laptop
[10:54] <gunnar> ioria: :-)
[10:55] <ioria> gunnar: i was forced to reflow its video card with a thermal pistol
[10:55] <gunnar> ioria: Brave soul
[10:56] <ioria> gunnar: brave and stupid
[10:56] <gunnar> hehehe
[10:56] <gunnar> ioria: breaking stuff is the best way to learn.
[10:57] <ioria> gunnar: yep but i'm 30 years old i should have already learned
[10:57] <Exagone313> Hello, I've a problem with X, the screen is zoomed in. How to zoom out? Thanks for helping
[10:58] <gunnar> ioria: never to late or early to learn.  Embrace your lack of knowledge and keep learning.
[10:58] <ioria> gunnar: i'll  follow your advice. thanx
[10:58] <gunnar> ioria: Your welcome.
[10:59] <Exagone313> I think I need to sue xrandr, but I don't know what command to use
[10:59] <Exagone313> use*
[10:59] <gunnar> hmm somebody pasted a linky on xrandr earlier.. you could google it?
[11:00] <Wug> Exagone313: have you tried `lawyer --court superior --claim [your complaint here] --law [section:subsection]`? :D
[11:00] <gunnar> LOL :D
[11:00] <ioria> Exagone313, never occurred to me: try this - http://askubuntu.com/questions/82398/how-to-zoom-inzoom-out
[11:00] <Exagone313> Wug: command not found (didnt tried)
[11:01] <Exagone313> ioria: I don't use unity, and the problem occurs with any window managher (kde/unity/awesome...)
[11:02] <Exagone313> so it's a x-server problem
[11:03] <gunnar> wow.. I'm still sitting here snickering about Wug's comment... how sad am I?
[11:04] <gartral> so i've been following the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/serverguide/openvpn.html and they appear to be wrong... it errors out at "./clean-all" instruction saying that I need to set "source vars" even though i have. i'm running 14.04 on my server... help?
[11:04] <Wug> gunnar: in your defense, i am pretty hilarious. :)
[11:04] <gunnar> http://askubuntu.com/questions/379123/can-i-zoom-out-windows-or-scale-the-whole-desktop
[11:05] <gunnar> Wug: Thanks I feel better now. :P
[11:06] <gunnar> Exagone313: That shoukd help you out.
[11:06] <gunnar> should*
[11:07] <ioria> Exagone313,  check your resolution
[11:07] <Exagone313> on, windows, I don't have this problem
[11:07] <Exagone313> -,
[11:08] <gunnar> gartral: I followed the same guide as you to set up my vpn and I've had no problems.. perhaps a typo somewhere?
[11:08] <ioria> Exagone313,  xdpyinfo  | grep dimensions
[11:08] <gartral> gunnar: I'll try again, please stand by
[11:08] <gunnar> sir yes sir
[11:09] <Exagone313> with xrandr, i set 800x600, and it is scaled, but I want to get 1920x1080
[11:10] <Exagone313> ioria: so it replies 800x600
[11:10] <gunnar> Exagone313:  Have you set proper modelines in your xorc conf?
[11:10] <ioria> very good :-P
[11:10] <Exagone313> what is it?
[11:10] <Exagone313> i didn't edited xorg conf
[11:10] <ioria> may we found the problem
[11:11] <gunnar> it's a config file that has to do with telling the xserver what resolution you want to run at.
[11:11] <gartral> gunnar: doesn't look like i typo'd.. http://paste.ubuntu.com/10807887/
[11:11] <Hereforcoding> hi....
[11:12] <gunnar> ohh yeah I remember running into this problem.
[11:12] <samfreenode> I just installed Skype, is it really going to load every single message ever sent before it finalyl runs?
[11:12] <gunnar> You need to su to root
[11:12] <Exagone313> but if I set my resolution like I want with xrandr, it is zoomed in
[11:12] <gartral> gunnar: oh...
[11:12] <gunnar> and the source it, since the source command isn't by default in your path
[11:12] <gartral> gunnar: how do i do that?
[11:12] <gunnar> just type su
[11:13] <gunnar> and the passwors
[11:13] <gartral> gunnar: i did
[11:13] <gunnar> and then do the source command again.
[11:13] <gartral> so continue from here?
[11:13] <samfreenode> Why is Skype loading every single message I've ever sent on the network, and it won't become responsive?
[11:13] <miceiken> can I have cp output some kind of information about progress?
[11:13] <gunnar> Stand by gartral
[11:16] <gunnar> gartral: So yeah like I said earlier, after you su to root in the /etc/openvpn/easy-rsa/ run as root, not sudo source vars, log back out to your regular user and sudo ./clean-all ./build-ca
[11:16] <gunnar> that worked for me
[11:17] <gartral> gunnar: ok, now i'm running into the issue of cp: cannot stat ‘dh2048.pem’: No such file or directory
[11:18] <gunnar> you need to change the name of the dh2048 file.
[11:18] <gunnar> ./build-dh
[11:18] <gartral> gunnar: to and from? I can't exactly correctly follow the documentation when said documentation is inheirently broken
[11:19] <gunnar> gartral: I know it's a bit tricky.. you need to read it all ahead of time.. kinda :P
[11:20] <gartral> gunnar: OK, got that bit
[11:20] <gunnar> gartral:  By that I mean, don't type in the commands one by one, but read the paragraph above each one before you try them.
[11:21] <gartral> gunnar: I got this far.. cd /etc/openvpn/easy-rsa/
[11:21] <gartral> source vars
[11:21] <gartral> ./build-key client1
[11:21] <gunnar> this particular section of the server guide is a bit chaotic.
[11:21] <gartral> soory! didn't mean to multi-post!
[11:22] <gunnar> OK so a this point you can either physicly copy the certs on a usb stick to the target client...
[11:22] <gunnar> or use something like scp or sftp.
[11:23] <gunnar> it wont let you copy the files via an unencrypted method.
[11:23] <gartral> gunnar: can't physically do it.. so I'll do it remote
[11:23] <gunnar> then scp or sftpis your saving grace
[11:24] <gartral> gunnar: again, it won't run the commands
[11:25] <Kaby> guys i have installed skype but it disappear from the menu and i can't open new skype it says you are already signed in another place any help (ubuntu 14.10)
[11:25] <gartral> gunnar: nvm, i typoed that one
[11:25] <gunnar> gartral:  Cool
[11:26] <nszceta> how does 3.4.0-0ubuntu2 differ from python 3.4.3 (ubuntu 14.04 LTS)
[11:26] <gunnar> gartral: Also before you copy the files over, if I was you, I'd chown the certs to the user on the client machine.
[11:27] <gartral> gunnar: ok, easy enough
[11:28] <gartral> gunnar: i need the *.key, yes?
[11:28] <miceiken> can I have 'cp' output some kind of information about progress?
[11:29] <gartral> obviously, i'm replacing the name of the key with a "*"
[11:29] <gunnar> gartral:  Yeah, copy the client1.crt and the client1.key to the client machine, you don't need the both mind you but just to be safe I copy them both.
[11:30] <gartral> gunnar: ok, i understand
[11:30] <gunnar> miceiken:  -vv?
[11:33] <gartral> gunnar: problem, I can't access the directory with the keys
[11:33] <gunnar> gartral: do it as root
[11:33] <Hackwar1> hi folks, I got a little issue with a filesystem. e2fsck says, that the filesystem size is X blocks, while the physical drive size is Y blocks, where Y<X. How can I fix this apprently faulty superblock/partition?
[11:33] <gartral> gunnar: I can't ssh in as root, root isn't set up
[11:34] <dkdlsd9> hi, I receive 'drive not ready' at boot but if I press M for manual and type mount -a everything is mounted as specified in the fstab. Any ideas what can I do?
[11:34] <goeranh> use midnight commander ore something like this
[11:34] <goeranh> sudo mc
[11:34] <gartral> brb
[11:35] <gunnar> gartral: dang.. chmod the keys directory 777 and change it back to 600 after you're done copy-ing the keys?
[11:35] <skulltip> would it be better to install the 32-bit OS on a laptop with 3072Mb, or 64-bit  in terms of (school) productivity and memory usage?  libreoffice, email, firefox/chrome, etc..
[11:35] <skulltip> 3074 or whatever.. basically 4G
[11:35] <goeranh> 64
[11:36] <gartral> growl...
[11:36] <skulltip> ty goeranh
[11:36] <goeranh> if u have an 64 bit cpu
[11:37] <skulltip> ok, it's an older toshiba but will check
[11:39] <nicholas> exit
[11:40] <gartral> gunnar: it won't let me copy the .key! it keeps saying permission denied!
[11:41] <gunnar> gartral: then recursivly chmod 777 the keys directory, and back to 600.
[11:41] <gartral> gunnar: I forgot about that! ty
[11:42] <gunnar> gartral: no worries :)
[11:42] <gartral> should I grab ca.crt?
[11:42] <gartral> gunnar: ^^^
[11:42] <gunnar> gartral: no need.
[11:42] <dreamon> having a issue with suspend to ram. sometimes it works fine, sometimes not. sometimes theres no more gui after it wakes up. STRG+ALT+F1 works. but the gui is dark. I hear normal sound from sky. so I know it still runs.
[11:43] <gunnar> gartral: once you connect to the vpn from the client machine it'll just ask you to verify the servers cert.
[11:43] <dreamon> need some idea how to fix it.
[11:43] <gartral> gunnar: what in the client config is broken?
[11:44] <gunnar> gartral: hmm don't know,  my client is using windows and openvpn.  It was a pain in the *** to configure.
[11:44] <gartral> gunnar: ok, well I'll try to figure it out as I go, but "EWWWW Windows!" lol
[11:44] <MonkeyDust> dreamon  i guess it's to do with your swap space, the size of it
[11:45] <ioria> dreamon ya me too... i moved a file and install xscreensaver... give a sec to remember the filename
[11:45] <gunnar> gartral: Hehehe it's my main box, used for gaming.  No real choice :P
[11:45] <gartral> gunnar: I game on Ubuntu. Any games that on't run I have no need to play
[11:45] <gartral> !:P
[11:46] <gartral> don't*
[11:46] <gunnar> gartral: pfft puritan! :D
[11:46] <goeranh> gantral: thats right if i wanna wait until windows has booted...
[11:46] <gartral> gunnar: to be fair, out of 200+ games, i've ran into 17 that won't play at all
[11:48] <ioria> dreamon do you have a /usr/share/app-install/desktop/light-locker-settings:light-locker-settings.desktop ?
[11:48] <dreamon> MonkeyDust, ioria only changes I found is that every time I boot, it makes a new fsck ..
[11:48] <gunnar> gartral: yeah.. I've just had my set up on that box for so long and everything works the way I want to to and I don't want to mess with it.  I've been fantasizing about dual booting linux on that box though.  I already have a few linux vm's running on that box.
[11:49] <dreamon> ioria, Is it a file or a entry in dconf?
[11:49] <gartral> gunnar: haaah.. you want to see what my server is running?
[11:49] <ioria> dreamon it's not a regular file ... wait a  sec
[11:50] <gartral> nvm, the info page is broken.... damn you apache!
[11:51] <gunnar> gartral: sure
[11:51] <gunnar> gartral: muhahaha
[11:52] <dreamon> ioria, yes I have this file, too
[11:52] <ioria> dreamon well ... you have to use terminal... cd in /usr/share/app-install/desktop and ls -l light-locker-settings:light-locker-settings.desktop
[11:52] <gartral> gunnar: I need to fix my files
[11:53] <gartral> i can't even think of the name... the files that allow access
[11:53] <gartral> htaccess! that's it
[11:53] <ioria> dreamon   you can try to move or rename (command line) and install   xscreensaver . I solved in this way
[11:54] <Thenewone> Hi any one good at scripting
[11:54] <ioria> dreamon   then reboot or logout
[11:55] <Thenewone> how can switch a line in file to comment ?
[11:55] <dreamon> ioria, Ok -> sudo mv light-locker-settings:light-locker-settings.desktop light-locker-settings:light-locker-settings_.desktop -> Now rebooting
[11:55] <MonkeyDust> Thenewone  by adding a # in front
[11:56] <ioria> dreamon   yep
[11:56] <Thenewone> yep but from script
[11:56] <Thenewone> i dont want add that by gedit
[11:56] <Thenewone> just script who do the work for me
[11:56] <MonkeyDust> Thenewone  bash script?
[11:57] <Thenewone> yep
[11:57] <MonkeyDust> Thenewone  better ask in #bash
[11:57] <ioria> Thenewone, look sed command
[11:57] <Thenewone> thanks
[11:58] <rexuss> Hi.. I just renamed my volume group and logical volume. Does this mean I also need to manually edit the fstab as well?
[12:00] <smallmouse> can anyone assist with a really slow wireless card on a desktop machine.
[12:00] <lotuspsychje> smallmouse: wifi chipset please?
[12:00] <smallmouse> I have increased the power but the wireless speed is very very slow, it is not the router
[12:00] <ktanner> are there any hotkeys to get to recovery mode on 14.10 32bit? no grub menu is showing on my laptop
[12:00] <lotuspsychje> ktanner: hold shift at boot to enter grub
[12:00] <SaltlakeCity1622> does anyone know how to get the expose feature back in modified versions of ubuntu, where it has been removed? you know the feature where you can spread all open windows apart to see everything that you have open?
[12:00] <lotuspsychje> !recovery | ktanner
[12:01] <benjhocking> @smallmouse what chipset are you using
[12:01] <benjhocking> e.g. what motherboard
[12:01] <Thenewone> ioria, thanks man
[12:01] <ioria> Thenewone, np
[12:01] <ktanner> thanks lotuspsychje it worked
[12:01] <benjhocking> ^^ like
[12:01] <lotuspsychje> SaltlakeCity1622: i think some features of unity moved to unity-plugins-extras or something
[12:02] <lotuspsychje> !yay | ktanner
[12:02] <SaltlakeCity1622> I'll have a look, where would I find that?
[12:02] <lotuspsychje> !find unity-plugin
[12:03] <lotuspsychje> holdon
[12:03] <jackintosh>  SaltlakeCity1622 you mean compiz?
[12:04] <gartral> gunnar: i'm confused by this phrasing.. "And you have to at least specify the OpenVPN server name or address. Make sure the keyword client is in the config. That's what enables client mode.
[12:04] <smallmouse> benjhocking: how do i get the chipset
[12:05] <smallmouse> lotuspsychje: how do i get the chip set thanks
[12:05] <lotuspsychje> smallmouse: sudo lshw -C network
[12:05] <gunnar> gartral:  Yeah it's the first line in the openvpn server config.  You need to tell the client to oppeate in client mode, by default it's set to server.
[12:06] <smallmouse> lotuspsychje: reateckPCI extpress Qualcomm Atheros
[12:06] <lotuspsychje> !atheros | smallmouse
[12:06] <dreamon> ioria, Im testing.
[12:06] <gunnar> gartral: so depending on what config you chose, make sure the first line read 'client' on the client. :P
[12:07] <lotuspsychje> !info compiz-plugins-extra | SaltlakeCity1622 try this mate
[12:07] <sudomarize> what is the standard location for installing software?
[12:07] <gartral> gunnar: in /etc/openvpn/client.conf?
[12:07] <lotuspsychje> SaltlakeCity1622: i used this to get wobbly windows back once, maybe your effect is also in there
[12:08] <gunnar> gartral: I'd also edit the server config to tell the server to force the clients to use the vpn server as their internet connection.  Can't remember where in the config it's situated exactly.
[12:08] <sudomarize> e.g. if i have tar, where is the generally accepted location to put it
[12:08] <nszceta> Q: what is the best way to host my own packages I built?
[12:09] <lotuspsychje> nszceta: for what purpose?
[12:09] <gartral> gunnar: there's no server.conf
[12:09] <nszceta> lotuspsychje ec2 server infrastructure
[12:09] <nszceta> I have my own programs I packaged with fpm
[12:09] <nszceta> for RHEL I use createrepo
[12:09] <gunnar> gartral:  Yes.  on the client, you don't need to worry about that since there is no server.conf there.
[12:09] <lotuspsychje> nszceta: for backup, or repo hosting?
[12:09] <SeaDonky> programs i have installed has gone to /etc
[12:10] <nszceta> lotuspsychje only for my custom packages. thanks
[12:10] <gartral> gunnar: so just edit client.conf?
[12:10] <lotuspsychje> nszceta: you can backup your favorite packages with aptoncd perhaps?
[12:10] <gunnar> gartral: At least skim over it and check to see if there are any obvious errors.
[12:10] <gartral> gunnar: ok
[12:10] <welintonfer> Hello
[12:10] <lotuspsychje> nszceta: hosting, is really the users choice right
[12:11] <nszceta> ????
[12:11] <nszceta> I am going to host my own packages on my own private network for my other nodes to install
[12:11] <nszceta> this is for purely internal use
[12:12] <lotuspsychje> nszceta: so you want a personal repo?
[12:12] <nszceta> correct sir
[12:12] <gunnar> gartral:  Just make sure the first line says 'client' and that the correct ip address for the server is set along witht the port number.
[12:12] <nszceta> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Personal
[12:12] <lotuspsychje> !repo | nszceta
[12:12] <gartral> gunnar: that worries me, the entry remote my-server-1 1194
[12:12] <nszceta> is this up-to-date with the latest best practices?
[12:12] <gunnar> gartral: hmm give me moment, I'm gonna check my own client config.
[12:13] <lotuspsychje> nszceta: maybe the #ubuntu-server guys might know the newest tricks in the house :p
[12:14] <gartral> gunnar: I might have to consult the dd-wrt crew for a bit...
[12:14] <gunnar> gartral: Just comment that line out, don't delete it (just for future reference) and manually type in the ipaddress of the server and the port number.
[12:15] <gartral> gunnar: what port, that's the bit that worries me
[12:15] <gunnar> gartral: Ok keep me posted, not going anywhere soon.
[12:15] <dreamon> ioria, till now it works .. :) going on testing
[12:16] <ioria> dreamon, ok
[12:16] <ioria> dreamon, check your ram and swap --- free and free -m
[12:18] <sudomarize> exit
[12:18] <sudomarize> exit
[12:18] <gunnar> gartral: http://www.speedguide.net/port.php?port=1194 Just if it eases your worries.
[12:21] <gartral> gunnar: i don't understand?
[12:22] <gunnar> gartral: me neither?  What is it that worries you with regards to the port?
[12:23] <gartral> gunnar: i don't think said port is open
[12:25] <dreamon> ioria, it works.. really cool. can you please tell me what I ve done?
[12:25] <gunnar> gartral: ahh ok.. what's your setup like?
[12:26] <ioria> dreamon, well in one word is a 'bug'
[12:26] <ioria> dreamon, wait..
[12:26] <dreamon> ioria, what kind of apps is there?
[12:27] <ioria> dreamon, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xfce4-power-manager/+bug/1303736
[12:28] <gartral>  gunnar at the server end it's a dd-wrt router with a server hardwired in
[12:28] <gunnar> gartral: All you have to do is forward the port to your vpn server from your router, and on the server iself via iptables you'll need to allow external connection on either UDP og TCP port 1194.
[12:29] <gartral> gunnar: i know, issue is is i have no outside access from said router
[12:30] <gunnar> gartral: Wow... this is getting a bit beyond my skill set.  If I can help you at all though, feel free to ask.
[12:31] <dreamon> ioria, Its possible I installed xfce4.. think after that the issue began.
[12:31] <gartral> gunnar: again, at this point, i need to ask the dd-wrt folks, waiting on an answer
[12:32] <ioria> dreamon, it  not depends only on xfce4 i think depends on security
[12:32] <adelpozoman> does this work?
[12:32] <gunnar> gartral: Ok
[12:32] <adelpozoman> how to change nick?
[12:38] <ioria> ho no, my dear, i cannot eat haggis for breakfast
[12:41] <dreamon> ioria, Thanks a thousend times. I was so short before to install from scratch.
[12:42] <ioria> dreamon, np
[12:43] <gartral> gunnar: the dd-wrt team is really "helpful" >.<
[12:43] <vincenzo> ciao
[12:44] <vincenzo> hi guys
[12:44] <gartral> hi
[12:47] <Nokaji> how can I over-ride the settings for icon-FONT in file manager, it does not respond to tweaking or even a re-set and is 6px approx
[12:48] <gunnar> gartral: :)
[12:49] <MichaelHabib> Hi
[12:49] <MichaelHabib> I have DNS (Webmin + Bind) question. I managed to create a home Apache + DNS server. If I add Master Zone records I can access these domains from my PC but I cant set the root directories for these domains, not even with virtual hosts.
[12:50] <gunnar> gartral:  Have you read this? http://www.dd-wrt.com/wiki/index.php/OpenVPN
[12:50] <ioria> Nokaji, have you seen this http://askubuntu.com/questions/19770/how-do-i-change-fonts-and-adjust-their-size
[12:50] <nszceta> what does this mean
[12:50] <nszceta> Packages in archive but missing from override file:
[12:50] <gartral> gunnar: not feasable, router won't load the bigger firmware
[12:51] <nszceta> got that during "dpkg-scanpackages . /dev/null | gzip -9c > Packages.gz"
[12:51] <dreamon> since I did → sudo touch /forcefsck  → reboot system make everytime a filecheck of both HDDs. whats the reason?
[12:51] <Nokaji> ioria: Yes thanks. It does not respond to unity-tweak-tool/ reset or other input methods
[12:52] <Nokaji> used to ut not any more since a forced reboot
[12:52] <Nokaji> most other fonts i can tweak
[12:52] <gunnar> gartral: But do these instructions still not apply?  You know since you're still using dd-wrt albeit a different version.  Just brainstorming here.
[12:53] <gartral> gunnar: no, since I can't at the moment access the NAT page of my router
[12:54] <ioria> Nokaji, what kind of fonts ?
[12:55] <Nokaji> in file manager - nautilus? is it called .. the files/folders/directories
[12:55] <gunnar> gartral: Is it because you don't have root access to the nat or is it because you're not sure how to access/configure it in general?
[12:56] <gartral> gunnar: neither, it's because the routers conf page is no longer accessable
[12:56] <Nokaji> neglgible differnece even if I scale the fonts or change screen resolution, but then again 6px +50% is still tiny
[12:56] <gunnar> gartral: ok
[12:57] <ioria> Nokaji, try in cli   http://askubuntu.com/questions/454279/change-default-system-font-using-terminal-only-in-14-04
[12:58] <Nokaji> I did try that before thanks, there is some comment that the file manager fonts can't be set and that there is a request for inclussion going back years
[12:58] <Nokaji> I need to find a line of code somewhere i think, a config file
[12:59] <ndhlp> hi. I need some help. I'm scared. Maybe parania but I have reasons to this. I need to update ubuntu trusty (14.04). But everytime its fails due some security check. Whether its a Hsh Sum Mismatch suddely the ubuntu master GPG keys become invalid, differing from the server keys.
[12:59] <Nokaji> I'kk try it again to see what settings it says in case one is 6px but i did try before
[13:00] <ndhlp> How do I update (and install new software) assuring the security? My first problem is  'W: GPG error: http://archive.ubuntu.com trusty Release: The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG <very long key not found in any keyserver> Ubuntu Archive Automatic Signing Key<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[13:02] <Nokaji> 18,16,18,14
[13:02] <gunnar> gartral:  I've been reading up on your problem on the dd-wrt forums.  How are you connected to the router? and are you sure you are using the correct Ip addresses? Are you sure you are on the same subnet and so on?
[13:03] <MichaelHabib> hi again, on my NSD server, creating a Master Zone gets picked up (can be accssed from pc) but creating a matching Virtual Host has no effect on the domain RootDir (or other options) .. any tips or ideas to where I can start looking for the problem ?
[13:03] <MichaelHabib> my DNS **
[13:04] <gartral> gunnar: I have a static IP, so I have a hostname, and I'm trying over an open admin port
[13:05] <nszceta> how can I provision an existing minimal ec2 instance with ansible 1.9
[13:06] <Nokaji> some drop-down file menus are tiny also
[13:09] <gunnar> gartral:  Are you sure the router is properly configured to forward the remote traffic to the internal os? and not to it's local network?
[13:09] <Nokaji> is there some sort of 'file integrity check' with ubuntu, like windows SFC ?
[13:09] <Kaby> i wonder why on windows my download speed is 20/30 kb and on ubuntu minimum starts at 60 kb to 160 kb lol
[13:09] <gartral> gunnar: very, it was working for 3 years
[13:11] <MichaelHabib> gunnar: hi & sorry to bother you again. You seem to know quit a bit about DNS and I can really use a coach to help me out for a bit
[13:11] <gunnar> gartral:  Ok, I'm just seeing a lot of posts about people loosing connectivity due to improper ip address settings.
[13:11] <bboyacid> slt
[13:11] <gartral> gunnar: def. not the case, I have people gaming on my server 24/7
[13:12] <gunnar> MichaelHabib:  on which time zone are you, I'm going out for a bit.  I'll be happy to help you later today?
[13:12] <bboyacid> je veu windows sur linux comment faire stp
[13:12] <MichaelHabib> gunnar: Australian time , but I can be online when ever you are, I sleep when the Internet does ;)
[13:12] <cfhowlett> !fr | bboyacid
[13:13] <exoudus> What’s  up with all the ping timeouts??
[13:13] <MichaelHabib> gunnar: if you tell me how many hours from now and I will make sure to be online :)
[13:14] <Exagone313> hello, i've a problem on kde, i've 2 hours more than my time zone. When I edit hour, I have this error: Unable to authenticate/execute the action: 4,
[13:14] <Exagone313> what can I do?
[13:14] <gunnar> MichaelHabib:  3 hours, and I'll be online.  Check back with me then :)
[13:14] <Exagone313> also, otehr problem, update-grub does not detect windows, same after mounting windows partitions and doing os-prober as described on tutorials
[13:14] <MichaelHabib> gunnar: sure thing .. thanks so much for the help
[13:14] <gunnar> gartral: well **** ... I hope you can figure this out.
[13:15] <exoudus> are you root Exagone313??
[13:15] <Exagone313> yes
[13:15] <Exagone313> no
[13:15] <exoudus> hmm
[13:15] <Exagone313> kde does not start as root
[13:15] <exoudus> Do you login as root thou
[13:15] <Exagone313> oh I think I know, kdesu or kdesudo is not installed
[13:15] <exoudus> that might help
[13:16] <Exagone313> same
[13:16] <Exagone313> it does not work
[13:16] <exoudus> allso logon as root then do it
[13:16] <MichaelHabib> Exagone313: check the KDE wallet thing, i had few problems when it failed to connect / login correctly.
[13:16] <Exagone313> or, how to user mtp in command line
[13:16] <Exagone313> ntp*
[13:16] <MichaelHabib> Exagone313: find the KDE wallet manager and login, may fix your problem
[13:17] <Exagone313> MichaelHabib: what is it?
[13:17] <rbajwa> i have a problem in ubuntu again login scren occur after login?
[13:17] <Rory> Exagone313: It's a program to manage stored credentials, but that's not important right now
[13:17] <Exagone313> I think it is not installed
[13:17] <Exagone313> I installed plasma-desktop
[13:18] <Exagone313> not kubuntu-desktop
[13:18] <rbajwa> it is installed i use 12.04 from 2 years
[13:18] <Rory> Exagone313: you probably want kubuntu-desktop to pull in all the extras
[13:18] <exoudus> it should be install by defalt
[13:18] <Exagone313> i don't
[13:18] <rbajwa> but recently i faced that prob
[13:18] <MichaelHabib> Exagone313: Rory ... ignore my messages, I may have missread the original question..
[13:18] <gartral> !eol | rbajwa
[13:19] <gartral> rbajwa: 12.04 is EOLed
[13:19] <rbajwa> but in console it working well
[13:19] <dienes> hi
[13:19] <rbajwa> :(
[13:19] <cfhowlett> 12.04 is NOT eol!
[13:19] <rbajwa> yeh not eol
[13:19] <gartral> cfhowlett: i thought it was
[13:19] <rbajwa> nops
[13:19] <cfhowlett> !12.04
[13:19] <gartral> oh, ignore me then >.>
[13:20] <gartral> SORRY!
[13:20] <OerHeks> 10.04 desktop is, gartral , and 10.04 server is still supporten ;-0
[13:20] <rbajwa> OK
[13:20] <cfhowlett> 10.04 server support ends ... this month!
[13:21] <OerHeks> yay
[13:21] <Exagone313> i did "sudo ntpdate -s 2.fr.pool.ntp.org" and I have the correct time
[13:21] <Exagone313> then, for my grub problem, any clue?
[13:22] <dienes> i have a proble. anyone can help me? the problem java in browsers (security alert, not loading, etc)
[13:22] <Exagone313> dienes: can you more describe your problem about java?
[13:23] <Rory> !java | dienes have you read the official docs on Java?
[13:23] <dienes> so, look at this page: http://sakk-online.hu/chessclient/applet.php
[13:23] <Rory> dienes: you should install the package icedtea-7-plugin
[13:24] <dienes> plugin installed.. and i looked win/linux ff/iron/chrome
[13:25] <dienes> i think this application is very old
[13:41] <vincenzo> ciao
[13:41] <vincenzo> ciao
[13:42] <vincenzo> hi guyas
[13:46] <nszceta> hi
[13:47] <Guest12129> hi
[13:56] <Guest12129> hi
[13:58] <BluesKaj> Hey folks
[14:00] <donniezazen> What is the difference between xf86-video-intel and xserver-xorg-video-intel?
[14:01] <Guest12129> xorg is open source video driver i belive
[14:01] <Guest12129> dont qoute me
[14:04] <donniezazen> Guest12129: I am thinking about setting up external monitor using this article http://www.unixreich.com/blog/2013/linux-nvidia-optimus-on-thinkpad-w520w530-with-external-monitor-finally-solved/
[14:05] <donniezazen> It is kind of old and I am too scared of messing up with graphic drivers because that would mean I will probably have to reinstall.
[14:05] <Guest12129> i have a cheap intel video in my netbook
[14:05] <donniezazen> Guest12129: btw I have seen other distro like Arch and Fedora ship xf86-video-intel by default. I think intel open source their drivers.
[14:06] <pixierail>  /msg NickServ VERIFY REGISTER pixierail qabgcsdeeeqa
[14:06] <SchrodingersScat> time to pick a new one
[14:06] <pixierail> woops =)
[14:06] <BluesKaj> intel graphics are usually quite good for a an onboard chip
[14:06] <SchrodingersScat> pixierail: also, if you /query nickserv , less chance of that
[14:07] <smallmouse> Hi i would like to switch off usb data transfer to lock down a user, does anyone have an idea on how to do this.  This should be effected at start up.
[14:07] <mintyfresh> im not ubuntu so i cant help
[14:10] <[RO]Daniel>  hi all, can anyone recommend me an app that is able to normalize flac files without loose the artwork and tag from files?
[14:11] <cfhowlett> [RO]Daniel, audacity
[14:11] <[RO]Daniel> cfhowlett,  thanks but that has only peak normalize, i would like something that normalizes based on RMS or loudness whatever
[14:12] <[RO]Daniel> i like verry much what job does normalize-audio (command line only) but with that i loose the tag and artwork
[14:12] <smallmouse> Hi i would like to switch off usb data transfer to lock down a user, does anyone have an idea on how to do this.  This should be effected at start up. thank you
[14:12] <cfhowlett> [RO]Daniel, ask #opensourcemusicians      they would know
[14:12] <[RO]Daniel> ok thanks cfhowlett  :)
[14:29] <smallmouse> Hi i would like to switch off usb data transfer to lock down a user, does anyone have an idea on how to do this.  This should be effected at start up.
[14:30] <goeranh> hello, does anybody know an good video editing software?
[14:30] <cfhowlett> smallmouse, a single user lockdown??
[14:30] <cfhowlett> !openshot | goeranh,
[14:30] <lotuspsychje> smallmouse: you could try kiosk software
[14:30] <goeranh> thank you
[14:30] <smallmouse> cfhowlett: yes thanks just single user
[14:30] <cfhowlett> !info openshot
[14:31] <cfhowlett> smallmouse, yep, kiosk mode
[14:31] <goeranh> z
[14:34] <lotuspsychje> smallmouse: you could also setup chmod strongly for a single user, and whatever he does with usb will not have effect on other folders
[14:36] <jl> So I recently installed Ubuntu on my 2nd HD of my PC and I have two issues, only one of which needs to actually be solved.
[14:36] <lotuspsychje> jl: ask your issue mate
[14:36] <jl> My main issue is that sometimes ubuntu will crash and I will see a screen that looks like this http://imgur.com/a/nlp3p
[14:36] <jl> But screenshots are also normal, nothing similar happens in windows ever
[14:37] <I> ...
[14:37] <lotuspsychje> jl: grafix chipset and ubuntu version please?
[14:37] <yuriy> Hi) could somebody help with x.org driver. I have hp laptop with Intel/AMD Radeon graphic and use x.org driver. Almost everything is ok, but when I close a lid or suspend laptop then after I cannot use laptop because of black screen. any ideas?
[14:37] <jl> Ubuntu 14.04, ATI HD 6870
[14:38] <lotuspsychje> jl: this reminds me of an ati xorg-video bug on my ati X800
[14:39] <jl> lotuspsychje, How were you able to fix it?
[14:39] <lotuspsychje> jl: i think kernel update fixxed that
[14:40] <lotuspsychje> jl: did you try additional drivers section, to see other drivers?
[14:41] <jl> All I did so far to try to fix it so far was installing all updates to software I already have, I thought about the non-free drivers but I wasnt sure it was a driver thing
[14:41] <lotuspsychje> jl: you could surely test other drivers to check
[14:42] <jl> lotuspsychje, Should I install them before I know if it still crashes without switching? I guess it probably doesnt hurt but I tend to avoid changing too many things If I dont have to, i think it makes narrowing down where I messed something up difficult.
[14:43] <lotuspsychje> jl: i would try a driver switch first + reboot to make sure its not a driver issue
[14:45] <jl> lotuspsychje, Sure, I will intall the other driver, and hopefully it stops freezing up or just spazzing. Thanks!
[14:45] <lotuspsychje> jl: you can always enter grub recoverymode if you get into troubles
[14:46] <jl> Cool, should I use fglrx or fglrx-updates?
[14:46] <lotuspsychje> jl: test out what works best for your card
[14:47] <topdownjimmy> I have a VPN running on my server; if I want to connect to that machine from outside of the local network, how can I do that?
[14:47] <lotuspsychje> topdownjimmy: sounds like a question for the ##networking guys mate
[14:48] <topdownjimmy> Thanks lotuspsychje
[14:48] <hereforcoding> hi..
[14:48] <hereforcoding> need help for setting proxy for terminal
[14:49] <lotuspsychje> !proxy | hereforcoding
[14:49] <lotuspsychje> !squid
[14:49] <hereforcoding> Actually sodo apt-get update is not working
[14:49] <jl> lotuspsychje, Thanks lotus.
[14:49] <hereforcoding> curl is not working
[14:49] <lotuspsychje> jl: np, hope it works
[14:51] <ioria> hereforcoding, exact error ?
[14:51] <hereforcoding> git clone https://openhatch.org/git-mission-data/git/Hereforcoding git_missions Cloning into 'git_missions'... error: Failed connect to openhatch.org:3128; No route to host while accessing https://openhatch.org/git-mission-data/git/Hereforcoding/info/refs fatal: HTTP request failed
[14:53] <ioria> there is a relation between apt-get update curl and git ?
[14:53] <Seveas> ioria: with apt-get update you can update git and curl :)
[14:53] <Seveas> and git uses libcurl for http and imap connectivity.
[14:53] <hereforcoding> Actually everything is connecting to network
[14:53] <ioria> Seveas, sure... but ?
[14:54] <hereforcoding> I think thats the problem
[14:54] <Seveas> ioria: but nothing. I just arrived and have no context to the question :)
[14:54] <hereforcoding> not sure about it
[14:54] <ioria> Seveas, kiddin eh... :-P
[14:55] <hereforcoding> I seen this http://kaamka.blogspot.in/2009/06/httpproxy-environment-variable.html
[14:55] <Seveas> hereforcoding: what's tour proxy hostname and port?
[14:55] <Seveas> usually you set it like this:
[14:55] <hereforcoding> Seveas how to know that
[14:56] <Seveas> export http_proxy=http://webproxy.mycompany.com:3128
[14:56] <Seveas> git clone http://....
[14:56] <Seveas> hereforcoding: well, you want to use a proxy. Kinda hard to do if you don't know the proxy :)
[14:56] <hereforcoding> Actually I am using wifi
[14:57] <hereforcoding> It working without proxy in firefox
[14:57] <ioria> hereforcoding, don't mix the cards
[14:57] <Seveas> so why are you trying to set a proxy?
[14:57] <liren> quit
[14:57] <mjuszczak> There's a workaround to a bug that says "kill aptd and install packagekit". What exactly does that do/
[14:58] <Seveas> mjuszczak: it'll break your system :)
[14:58] <mjuszczak> ok
[14:58] <hereforcoding> I thought that was the only problem the unix command is not working
[14:58] <mjuszczak> Seveas: really? OK. It's the recommended workaround for: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/realmd/+bug/1333694
[14:58] <Seveas> hereforcoding: so let's back up a step or 20. What are you actually trying to do?
[14:58] <hereforcoding> what may be the other reason
[15:00] <hereforcoding> I am simply trying to run the common git clone https://openhatch.org/git-mission-data/git/Hereforcoding git_missions or curl or sudo get-update
[15:00] <hereforcoding> none of this not working
[15:00] <hereforcoding> Seveas
[15:00] <Seveas> hereforcoding: ok, what's the output of the git clone command?
[15:00] <ioria> hereforcoding, can  you ping <IP_ADDRESS> and www.google.com ?
[15:00] <Seveas> ioria: no rushing ahead :)
[15:01] <ioria> go on ...
[15:01] <hereforcoding> I am new to unix could tell how to ping <IP_ADDRESS>
[15:01] <ioria> fume
[15:01] <Seveas> hereforcoding: we can do that later. First I want to see the output of the git clone
[15:02] <hereforcoding> You can clone the repository by running: git clone https://openhatch.org/git-mission-data/git/Hereforcod
[15:02] <hereforcoding> https://openhatch.org/missions/git/checkout
[15:02] <Seveas> hereforcoding: yes, and I want *you* to try that and tell me what the output is you get, to diagnose your connectivity issues.
[15:02] <mjuszczak> Is it still okay to use adcli with all of the package bugs in realm join?
[15:02] <hereforcoding> @ubuntu:~$ git clone https://openhatch.org/git-mission-data/git/Hereforcoding git_missions Cloning into 'git_missions'... error: Failed connect to openhatch.org:3128; No route to host while accessing https://openhatch.org/git-mission-data/git/Hereforcoding/info/refs fatal: HTTP request failed
[15:03] <hereforcoding> Seveas
[15:03] <Seveas> hereforcoding: ok, that openhatch.org:3128 in there makes me thing you've already set a broken http_proxy variable
[15:03] <Seveas> try this command and show the output: env | grep -i proxy
[15:04] <hereforcoding> I have tried that
[15:04] <Seveas> ...and show the output
[15:04] <hereforcoding> @ubuntu:~$ env | grep -i proxy NO_PROXY=localhost,<IP_ADDRESS>/8 http_proxy=http://webproxy.mycompany.com:3128 ALL_PROXY=socks://<IP_ADDRESS>:3128/ all_proxy=socks://<IP_ADDRESS>:3128/ socks_proxy=socks://<IP_ADDRESS>:3128/ UBUNTU_MENUPROXY=libappmenu.so no_proxy=localhost,<IP_ADDRESS>/8
[15:05] <Seveas> is that the literal output, or did you redact it?
[15:05] <tiyteeze> hey
[15:05] <tiyteeze> need help
[15:05] <hereforcoding> I just copy paste Seveas
[15:06] <MichaelHabib> gunnar: Hi, are you back ?
[15:07] <Seveas> hereforcoding: ok, let's unset all those except the menu proxy: unset NO_PROXY; unset http_proxy; unset ALL_PROXY; unset all_proxy; unset socks_proxy; unset no_proxy
[15:07] <Seveas> hereforcoding: and then try the clone again. The output should be different this time.
[15:07] <hereforcoding> K Sevas let me try
[15:07] <Seveas> tiyteeze: it's kinda hard to help if you don't tell us what's wrong :)
[15:14] <hereforcoding> Seveas thank you very much :)
[15:14] <RRliko> hi there
[15:14] <dong_> fgdf
[15:14] <dinet> good afternoon
[15:14] <RRliko> Got a question - what's the software of choice to sandbox firefox in ubuntu?
[15:15] <bekks> RRliko: Sandboxing in which manner?
[15:15] <dinet> is it possible to change from -server to -desktop without reinstalling the entire system?
[15:15] <Seveas> hereforcoding: it's working? :)
[15:15] <bekks> dinet: Sure. Just use the desktop packages you want.
[15:15] <hereforcoding> yes :)
[15:15] <RRliko> bekks: sandboxing from system and home files
[15:15] <Seveas> hereforcoding: excellent!
[15:15] <bekks> RRliko: Install a virtual machine.
[15:15] <Seveas> RRliko: run it in a vm
[15:15] <RRliko> bekks: too hungry on resources
[15:15] <hereforcoding> Seveas thanks a lot :)
[15:15] <dinet> bekks: I have done that. feels like alot of things are missing.
[15:15] <bekks> RRliko: Its the only way.
[15:16] <RRliko> Seveas: bekks I'd like to use sandboxed firefox as main browser
[15:16] <bekks> dinet: Then you did not install everything :) Which desktop environment do you want?
[15:16] <Seveas> RRliko: firefox is hungrier than the vm if you make it a lean one
[15:16] <bekks> RRliko: Then install it in a virtual machine.
[15:16] <dinet> bekks: I have gnome installed
[15:16] <bekks> dinet: Which Ubuntu are you on?
[15:16] <dinet> bekks: latest
[15:16] <bekks> dinet: NAme the version please.
[15:17] <RRliko> Anyone else has got experience with sandboxing firefox?
[15:17] <dinet> bekks: the latest that is not LTS.. iirc .10
[15:17] <bekks> dinet: Whats the output of "lsb-release -sd"?
[15:18] <dinet> bekks: 14.10
[15:18] <bekks> dinet: How did you install gnome?
[15:19] <RRliko> oh, btw, since I'm already here - do the new releases of Ubuntu still come with Amazon adds in search results?
[15:19] <RRliko> haven't used the distro in a while
[15:20] <bekks> RRliko: You can disable it, since the first release.
[15:20] <dinet> bekks: the way I have always installed stuff. apt-get install gnome
[15:20] <RRliko> bekks: Oh no, I remember that in 11.10 it was not possible to disable it, you had to purge the entire app
[15:20] <bekks> RRliko: Then your memory is wrong, it was always possible.
[15:21] <RRliko> That was when I switched to Linux Mint, due to the spyware, hopefully it's not there anymore
[15:21] <RRliko> bekks: well, install it and see for yourself, in the first distro with Unity it was not possible
[15:21] <RRliko> bekks: maybe updates changed it later
[15:22] <RRliko> bekks: the option was only made available in 12.04
[15:22] <bekks> RRliko: So you are using Mint and dont even know if it doesnt use Amazon Ads? :D
[15:22] <RRliko> bekks: no, I use fedora
[15:22] <RRliko> *Fedora
[15:23] <bekks> So the Fedora support is the best place to ask on how to sandbox firefox in a Fedora installation.
[15:23] <OerHeks> That amazon thing was intentional, to see if you care about others :-D
[15:23] <OerHeks> Next!
[15:23] <zykotick9> RRliko: fyi http://www.pcworld.com/article/2840401/ubuntus-unity-8-desktop-removes-the-amazon-search-spyware.html
[15:23] <RRliko> bekks: The thing is, I need Ubuntu point of view as well
[15:23] <dinet> bekks: When I installed gnome the frontends for apt was not installed
[15:23] <bekks> RRliko: But you arent using Ubuntu now.
[15:24] <RRliko> bekks: That is correct.
[15:24] <lisak> hey
[15:24] <lisak> I heard Chef is to be part of default ubuntu 15.04 installation, is it already ?
[15:25] <lisak> in the pre-release versions ?
[15:25] <RRliko> zykotick9: It's good to know, however that will not get my trust back, I'll never use Ubuntu again.
[15:25] <bekks> RRliko: Then why are you seeking the Ubuntu support?
[15:25] <RRliko> zykotick9: Nonetheless, thank you for the link, it's good to know.
[15:25] <xangua> !15.04 | lisak
[15:25] <RRliko> RRliko: I've already explained that. Please stop unnecessarily taking my time.
[15:26] <RRliko> bekks: ^
[15:26] <bekks> RRliko: Yeah, stop unnecessarily taking out time, please.
[15:26] <gie> clear
[15:27] <RRliko> Anyone on ubuntu using sandbox?
[15:27] <RRliko> Sandbox, anyone? Please.
[15:29] <cfhowlett> RRliko, ask #fedora for assistance with fedora
[15:29] <RRliko> cfhowlett: I am not asking about Fedora. I am asking about sandbox on Ubuntu.
[15:29] <RRliko> Focus.
[15:29] <cfhowlett> RRliko, you stated you use fedora.  you stated you don't and will never use ubuntu.  you are in the wrong channel.
[15:30] <RRliko> Leave me alone, you won't understand.
[15:30] <OerHeks> RRliko, "I'll never use Ubuntu again." what do you do here ?
[15:31] <Ziber> Is 13.04 no longer supported?
[15:31] <RRliko> I need to know what software is used by Ubuntu users to sandbox applications.
[15:31] <genii> Ziber: Correct
[15:31] <teward> Ziber: yes, it is no longer supported.
[15:31] <teward> !13.04 | Ziber
[15:31] <Ziber> Well, hrm. How do I properly upgrade?
[15:31] <Ziber> !upgrade
[15:31] <cfhowlett> !eolupgrade | Ziber,
[15:31] <bekks> !eolupgrade
[15:32] <xangua> Ziber: it would be faster a clean install
[15:32] <Ziber> I've got a lot of stuff running on that box...
[15:32] <Ziber> I'd much rather upgrade
[15:32] <bekks> Ziber: So back it up.
[15:32] <xangua> good, a full day upgrading
[15:32] <cfhowlett> Ziber, incrementally upgrade to a supported version i.e. 13.04 > 13.10 > 14.04
[15:32] <xangua> or just backup and do a clean install ;) whatever you preffer
[15:32] <Ziber> Okay.
[15:33] <bekks> Backup before you upgrade or reinstall.
[15:33] <xangua> well maybe half a day minimum...that if everything goes with cero issues
[15:33] <bekks> Otherwise your data can be safely considered as not being worth to be kept.
[15:33] <Ziber> So, this is a server, how can I do this from cli?
[15:33] <bekks> !backup | Ziber
[15:33] <RRliko> Anyone in here using sandbox?
[15:34] <OerHeks> There are a lot of sandbox solutions, which one?
[15:34] <ioria> Ziber if you installed /home in a separate partition you can save it
[15:35] <RRliko> OerHeks: Something that could take care of Firefox, excluding SELinux.
[15:35] <RRliko> OerHeks: And excluding fully built virtual machines.
[15:35] <gie> clear
[15:35] <gie> sorry wrong chat
[15:36] <RRliko> OerHeks: Also, something that would successfully sandbox the entire browser with its plugins.
[15:36] <gunnar> MichaelHabib:  Yeah back, I'm brushing up on zone files as we speak.
[15:36] <Ziber> So, upgrading from a server?
[15:37] <RRliko> OerHeks: Obviously, it would still have to connect to the Internet. Any help much appreciated.
[15:38] <OerHeks> No clue without selinux, sorry
[15:38] <RRliko> OerHeks: SELinux is broken as of now. Sandboxing won't work.
[15:38] <RRliko> At least with the new update
[15:39] <RRliko> I mean, SELinux still works well, but sandboxing won't.
[15:40] <gunnar> MichaelHabib:  If you are there, what's the problem?
[15:52] <gunnar> bump
[15:52] <gunnar> :D
[16:00] <ioria> oh, another time, ...  statup firefox page  in spanish ...
[16:00] <jParkton> same here
[16:00] <jParkton> weird stuff
[16:01] <ioria> yep
[16:01] <jParkton> so now not only do I have to press 1 for English but I also have to assume my browser is in Spanish....  I win.
[16:04] <ioria> really ?
[16:04] <jParkton> This is true
[16:04] <jParkton> it certainly surprised me
[16:04] <Seveas> gunnar: and fermented shark.  I'm personally never going to try it, but back in the day.. people used ALL of the animals.
[16:05] <gunnar> Poorer times
[16:05] <ioria> oh yes...  Þorramatur
[16:05]  * OerHeks loves raw herring
[16:05] <jParkton> danh OerHeks
[16:05] <jParkton> dang
[16:05] <OerHeks> Dutch specialty
[16:06] <gunnar> Seveas:  That actually the only way to eat shark, it would be toxic otherwise.
[16:06] <jParkton> that stuff smells interesting
[16:06] <OerHeks> But lets get back ontopic :-D
[16:06] <spiff_> goats?
[16:06] <jParkton> or join #ubuntu-offtopic
[16:06] <Seveas> OerHeks: is het al hollandse nieuwe tijd? :)
[16:06] <Seveas> so what's the topic? Spanish browsers or other problems?
[16:06] <gunnar> OerHeks: Aww this was just getting interesting :P
[16:07] <Seveas> gunnar: #ubuntu-offtopic welcomes you :)
[16:07] <gunnar> lulz :D
[16:07] <OerHeks> Neen,  10 juni 2015 or later
[16:07] <genii> We're already discussing bacon in there anyways
[16:08] <gunnar> jParkton: Am i correct in a assuming when you say NC you mean North Carolina?
[16:08] <jParkton> yessir
[16:08] <gunnar> cool
[16:09] <jParkton> testes are a southern traditional food
[16:09] <jParkton> "Rocky Mountain Spotted Oysters"
[16:10] <kumala> hi, I have a small doubt here. I have my OS installed on a drive and my storage on another drive. The storage drive is encrypted and when I boot on my OS drive I can mount it perfectly well. But, I have just tried to boot from a USB live OS and mounted the encrypted storage drive, entered the password, and it indeed mounted it but said I did not have the permissions when I tried to browse it. Then I switched to terminal and tried a `ls` on
[16:10] <kumala> it and it indeed said permission denied. Then I tried as root and I could access it. I am planning to reinstall the OS and I am afraid this permission denied thing would be a pain. Do you have any idea what is going on and if a fresh OS would be affected or if this could be related to the USB live OS?
[16:11] <jParkton> if there is a permissions issue shouldnt root be able to solve that? I have never setup like that but I assume chown can fix that?
[16:12] <zykotick9> kumala: if your user id, in terminal you can use "id" to find out what it is, matches on the new installation, it _should_ be fine.
[16:13] <kumala> yep, I thought maybe this is because the user / user id of the drive do not match the one on the USB live OS. But shouldn't this be taken care of by the ubuntu? If I have to "chown" it myself then I will do it, but I don't want to screw it if the OS has an automatic way to do it that I'm not aware of
[16:14] <genii> nobel peace
[16:15] <ioria> kumala did you mount the encrypted volumes ?
[16:15] <kumala> yes
[16:15] <ioria> kumala how
[16:15] <ioria> ?
[16:15] <kumala> I did it through the GUI, opening the icon. Then I checked with , mount, df...
[16:15] <kumala> I could access the files, so it was mounted
[16:16] <kumala> just the permissions were wrong
[16:16] <kumala> and I wonder if ubuntu takes care of that or if I should do it manually
[16:16] <ioria> kumala the mounted files are still encrypted or clear ?
[16:17] <kumala> clear
[16:17] <kumala> I provided my password during mount
[16:17] <ioria> kumala passphrase you mean ?
[16:17] <kumala> yes
[16:18] <ioria> kumala and you cannot open or write on them ?
[16:18] <kumala> with the default user of the ubuntu live USB, I can't read, but with root I can read write...
[16:19] <kumala> I wonder what would happen in case of a fresh install
[16:19] <ioria> ok, i'm out
[16:20] <kumala> if it's just a matter of changing ownership manually then I'll do it. But I somehow thought that was not very Ubuntuish
[16:20] <kumala> and I thought there must be something I got wrong
[16:24] <kumala> well I guess that must not be so wrong if no one is shoked by this :) So I will try the reinstall and then change ownership manually. Thanks!
[16:45] <hkrrsx> morning
[16:45] <esu> hkrrsx: morning? where are you from?
[16:45] <gunnar> afternoon here, but ok