[00:16] <Foxhoundz> how can i get ubuntu to update itself
[00:16] <Foxhoundz> i'm on ubuntu server
[00:17] <Foxhoundz> would a cron job executing sudo apt-get dist-upgrade suffice?
[00:18] <blackflow> Foxhoundz: don't do that. use something like apticron to notify you when updates are available, then update manually.
[00:19] <Foxhoundz> blackflow: well, i already get notification on first login via ssh
[00:19] <Foxhoundz> but it might be week or months before i log into this box
[00:19] <Foxhoundz> so i wanted to keep it continually updated in my absence
[00:19] <hkrrsx> Foxhoundz: Please see this URL with pictures:  http://www.howtogeek.com/204796/how-to-enable-automatic-security-updates-on-ubuntu-server/
[00:23] <blackflow> Foxhoundz: so you wanna have your system changed without your being around to log in if something breaks, for weeks or months?
[00:23] <daveomcd> does ubuntu have a command line tool to convert a file from unicode to ascii?
[00:23] <blackflow> because Ubuntu is not really known for rock solid super stability when updates are in question.
[00:23] <blackflow> daveomcd: iconv
[00:24] <daveomcd> thanks!
[00:24] <Foxhoundz> blackflow: it's just a local dev/media/dns server
[00:24] <Foxhoundz> i'll know something went wrong when i can't navigate go google.com :p1
[00:24] <blackflow> Foxhoundz: well, you've been warned.
[00:25] <Foxhoundz> blackflow: well, i'll just be configuring it for only security updates
[00:25] <Foxhoundz> so it shouldn't be a problem
[00:28] <Foxhoundz> ...what could go wrong?
[00:29] <blackflow> Foxhoundz: service restart failing, reboot happening, or both happening at the wrong time
[00:30] <hkrrsx> Foxhoundz:  Power failure, wake on power, messed up kernel, server down w/ no remote capabilities and your customers are screeeeeaming at you .... losing muy pesos in the process
[00:30] <hkrrsx> I agree with blackflow's warning
[00:30] <vince_> hkrrsx, muchos* ;)
[00:31] <hkrrsx> vince_: sorry, Spanish isn't my 2nd, 3rd or last language :)
[00:31] <hkrrsx> But thanks for the correction
[00:31] <OerHeks> just install apticron indeed to send you an email when updates are available.
[00:31] <Foxhoundz> There are new patches almost every day
[00:32] <Foxhoundz> it might be from that ffmpeg ppa i installed
[00:33] <blackflow> Foxhoundz: btw, apticron sends you an email, so you don't have to log in to see if something's up for update
[00:33] <blackflow> oh OerHeks beat me to it :)
[00:34] <OerHeks> You will love systemD with mir, reboots are history
[00:34] <blackflow> OerHeks: really? live kernel patching too?
[00:34] <OerHeks> Jups
[00:35] <OerHeks> that makes reboot unnessasary for the time beiing.
[00:35] <blackflow> OerHeks: it ain't april fools here any more, so I'll ask again... live kernel patching  too? :D
[00:38] <OerHeks> blackflow, yes, can't find the posts i read recently
[00:38] <blackflow> OerHeks: I think you're confusing that with the UPCOMING live kernel patching capabilities in 4.0
[00:38] <blackflow> (aside from current proprietary options by RedHat and, methinks, Suse?)
[00:39] <blackflow> OerHeks: still, you have to reboot to update PID 1, especially since it's now so complex.
[00:39] <OerHeks> Yes, this is still the transition to mir, AFAIK
[00:40] <blackflow> OerHeks: I think you have no idea what you're talking about :)
[00:45] <smart1> hi guys
[00:45] <smart1> any one know gancktrack distro
[00:46] <smart1> wb garrettr
[00:46] <smart1> guys
[00:46] <smart1> hello
[00:46] <smart1> wb
[00:46] <smart1> any one can help me here ?
[00:47] <OerHeks> smart1, never heard of gancktrack distro, it is not ubuntu. did you check distrowatch.com ?
[00:48] <smart1> wait dude
[00:49] <smart1> this is the name of it ( gnacktrack )
[00:49] <smart1> gnome
[00:49] <gr33n7007h> smart1: gnacktrack died years ago dude!
[00:50] <smart1> ohhh my god lol
[00:50] <gr33n7007h> haha
[00:50] <smart1> ok do you know any distro like it but live not dead lol
[00:50] <OerHeks> oh, before backtrack died ?
[00:50] <gr33n7007h> smart1: kali
[00:51] <OerHeks> try kali or something 2015
[00:51] <gr33n7007h> OerHeks: backtrack way before gnacktrack
[00:51] <vince_the_ponder> you remember knoppix or whoppix?
[00:51] <gr33n7007h> vince_the_ponder: sure do
[00:52] <OerHeks> There are a lot more compilation of tools, than i know of.
[00:52] <smart1> no way i will not try kali , they wanna force us to quit usinnig backtrack & ues it
[00:52] <OerHeks> *pentesting
[00:53] <smart1> i have backtrack r5 3 with ubuntu softwear center now lol
[00:53] <smart1> wb
[00:53] <gr33n7007h> smart1: well, that's running 10.04 haha
[00:54] <frigin> evening all. Just installed ubuntu 14.04 and grub did not pick up windows 8.1 trying to make it dual boot, any help? thanks in advance
[00:54] <vince_the_ponder> frigin, do you know if it erased windows partition, is the partition type visible in cfdisk under ubuntu?
[00:54] <stanmcm> frigin, Check this out.  http://sourceforge.net/projects/boot-repair-cd/  I've used it.  Real quick and easy to use.
[00:55] <frigin> no the partition is still there. boot-repair didn't work
[00:55] <hawly> frigin, took a look on grub conf files?
[00:55] <vince_the_ponder> smart1, the driver support has been greatly improved over the past couple of years for wifi cards specifically so you would benefit a lot from upgrading to kali linux
[00:55] <frigin> boot-repair - error GPT detected. please create a BIOS-Boot Partition etc etc
[00:56] <frigin> @hawly how do i do that
[00:57] <frigin> brb
[00:57] <hawly> frigin, i dont remember - but i think its easy to find - you change the file, and run a command to make grub use the new confs
[00:57] <vince_the_ponder> frigin, if /boot partition is mounted under ubuntu, the config file is there
[00:58] <hawly> ops.. instead of "change the file", "edit the file"
[00:58] <vince_the_ponder> frigin, the command is 'sudo update-grub'
[00:58]  * hawly is a kind of old school
[00:59] <smart1> vince do you know sphinux OS , this OS kernel 60% hurd & 40% Linux
[00:59] <Aeiortv> Would you call someone who actively uses and is interested in Ubuntu a GNU/Linux enthusiast or a Linux enthusiast?
[00:59] <frigin> @vince thank you
[01:00] <gr33n7007h> smart1: ass
[01:00] <vince_the_ponder> smart1, i dont know that the difference between straight linux and hurd/linux mix really matters while pentesting. but to each their own i guess.
[01:00] <vince_the_ponder> smart1, what are the benefits of using hurd / Linux kernel mix in general?
[01:00] <frigin> back sudo update-grub result http://paste.ubuntu.com/10721563/
[01:01] <hawly> Aeiortv, GNU/Linux is a "expert precise term"
[01:01] <frigin> i dont see my windows in there
[01:01] <smart1> i do know im not the maker of this OS :)
[01:01] <hawly> ?
[01:01] <smart1> don't ^
[01:02] <rdaymond> quit
[01:02] <vince_the_ponder> frigin, do 'sudo blkid'
[01:03] <vince_the_ponder> frigin, pastebin?
[01:03] <frigin> http://paste.ubuntu.com/10721572/
[01:04] <hawly> btw, you only realize the "GNU" importance of the stuff, when for example: try a term session on Android
[01:05] <Arrick> how do I "Map" a network drive in ubuntu?
[01:06] <vince_the_ponder> frigin, /dev/sda2 is your windows installation partition. we need to add a line to your grub config that adds windows 8 as boot option. The problem is that grub should do this by default, and its not doing it so its better find out why instead of forcing it (grub is still working to load linux after all)
[01:06] <gr33n7007h> Arrick: http://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2014/08/map-network-drive-onto-ubuntu-14-04/
[01:06] <frigin> im down for whatever you want me to do @vince i'm still a newbie *nix user
[01:07] <gr33n7007h> !g
[01:07] <hawly> bye guys
[01:08] <vince_the_ponder> frigin, is windows 8 install 64 bit?
[01:08] <frigin> yes
[01:08] <frigin> same with ubuntu 14.04
[01:10] <OerHeks> i think that GPT disk needs that 100 mb dos partition for grub >> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFIBooting
[01:10] <Zach443> vince_the_ponder, I didn't realize friggin was that guys's name and I thought you were just really mad for a sec lol
[01:11] <frigin> nah zach thats me :)
[01:13] <Zach443> hehe
[01:14] <vince_the_ponder> frigin, sorry i cant be of much help, but reading this article about archlinux + eufi explained a bit of the limitations surrounding a pre-installed windows 8 and dual booting with linux. If ubuntu did not make special accomodations for dual booting, you may need to re-install grub as a eufi-gpt install instead of mbr-dos install
[01:14] <vince_the_ponder> https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/GRUB#Windows_installed_in_UEFI-GPT_Mode_menu_entry
[01:14] <frigin> nothing can ever be easy for me
[01:15] <frigin> alright vince_the_ponder i appreciate the help i'll pop in my w8 disk and see if i can get windows back and just boot into ubuntu from my usb thanks a ton for the help
[01:16] <vince_the_ponder> dang he gave up :-(
[01:17] <vince_the_ponder> i wish i coulda convinced him not to do that... oh well.
[01:22] <Bradley> hello everyone
[01:23] <Viqta> hello
[01:23] <Arrick> ok.. how about how do I map a network drive during a single session...., I have to connect to the VPN before mapping it.
[01:23] <Bradley> Has anyone had an issue with any linux distro installing to a usb drive?
[01:24] <Bradley> I tried installing Arch, then OpenSUSE, and I'm downloading LXLE right now. The first two distros gave errors when trying to install :/
[01:25] <Viqta> which errors?
[01:25] <Bradley> ArchLinux said "can't find /dev/sda on /etc/fstab" when trying to mount the root partition
[01:26] <Bradley> and OpenSUSE said that it couldn't locate some boot file. So I never even got to partitioning with that one
[01:26] <Viqta> you got the iso from the original source or did you use the bootloder's option?
[01:27] <Bradley> I got Arch from the source's distro page. but i used LiveLinux USB to download OSuse
[01:27] <cluelessperson> Hey guys I'm getting this error
[01:27] <cluelessperson> Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/trusty-updates/Release.gpg  Could not resolve 'us.archive.ubuntu.com'
[01:27] <cluelessperson> after setting my ip to static in ubuntu.
[01:27] <cluelessperson> I tried setting dns in my /etc/network/interfaces file, but no dice
[01:28] <Viqta> that's a weird error, would really ask the guys over at arch
[01:28] <UNNGH> hi
[01:28] <UNNGH> anyone on?
[01:28] <Viqta> cluelessperson: do you have an internet connection? you can use the terminal to update
[01:29] <UNNGH> what?
[01:29] <Viqta> UNNGH:hi
[01:29] <Bradley> I wasn't sure if mounting the root partition was a common error or not. I've only ever had good luck with Ubuntu and Linux Mint
[01:29] <cluelessperson> Viqta, Yes.  I'm connected to the server
[01:29] <UNNGH> Why did my name go orange
[01:29] <Bradley> But I'm looking for something really lightweight since I'm trying to get into coding
[01:29] <cluelessperson> Viqta, but it cannot resolve hosts itself to get out
[01:29] <cluelessperson> Bradley, PHP is wonderful to start, or Python
[01:29] <Viqta> use the terminal to update then. I find it easier
[01:29] <UNNGH> oh
[01:29] <UNNGH> c++
[01:29] <UNNGH> is good
[01:29] <cluelessperson> Bradley, there are several online sites that are really good about getting into them
[01:30] <cluelessperson> UNNGH, no, it's not. :(
[01:30] <Bradley> cluelessperson right right, but I'm looking for a Linux distro to install on a usb drive at the moment.
[01:30] <UNNGH> i likeubuntu
[01:30] <cluelessperson> Bradley, ubuntu runs fine on usb. :)
[01:30] <UNNGH> or external HDD
[01:30] <Bradley> cluelessperson also I'm trying to learn c++ :P python seems really awkward
[01:30] <cluelessperson> Bradley, in terms of programming, I lean more towards ubuntu-server
[01:31] <UNNGH> C++ is very conventional, and usefull.
[01:31] <UNNGH> That is what i have been learning c++ for years
[01:31] <cluelessperson> Bradley, I keep a usb drive around my neck with ubuntu live on it as a backup, or if I need to access someone's files.
[01:31] <Bradley> cluelessperson: the irc channel?
[01:31] <cluelessperson> Bradley, that's a place, sure, (I'm banned there though)
[01:31] <UNNGH> How do you remote accesspeople
[01:31] <UNNGH> ?
[01:31] <cluelessperson> UNNGH, ssh?
[01:32] <UNNGH> oh
[01:32] <UNNGH> or packet sniffing
[01:32] <UNNGH> wireshark
[01:32] <cluelessperson> UNNGH, what are you asking?
[01:32] <UNNGH> like getting info in public
[01:32] <UNNGH> from other computers
[01:32] <UNNGH> how do i hijack the router and redirect trafic to my computer
[01:32] <cluelessperson> My server cannot resolve any hosts at all, how do I fix this?
[01:33] <cluelessperson> it seems to have started when I set it up for static ips on network
[01:33] <Bradley> UNNGH, cluelessperson: are all distros based off of ubuntu able to get support from the same source, or are they all completely different? (just so I know where to go for tech help)
[01:33] <Viqta> change the place where you get updates from
[01:34] <vince_the_ponder> cluelessperson, can you ping <IP_ADDRESS> ?
[01:35] <UNNGH> i have to go.
[01:35] <UNNGH> see you later
[01:36] <Bradley> should I enable the option for "launching LinuxLive in windows" on the LiLi program?
[01:36] <Bradley> or would it be better to just try and boot from the usb to install on the other usb?
[01:37] <Viqta> I dont understand Bradley
[01:38] <Bradley> Viqta: so I'm trying to make a Live USB so I can install linux on another USB. would it be better to launch the install from within Windows, or just boot up from the LiveUsb to install
[01:38] <Ben64> you can't launch an install from windows
[01:39] <Viqta> you cant do that, when you burn the iso on the flash then you shutdown the pc
[01:39] <Bradley> you can't use VMware to make a bootable linux usb?
[01:39] <Viqta> why use vmware?
[01:40] <Viqta> there are a lot of guides for dualbooting
[01:40] <Bradley> maybe I'm getting my information confused then O_0
[01:40] <Bradley> I don't wanna dualboot
[01:40] <Viqta> what do you want to do?
[01:40] <Bradley> I know how to do that :/ I want the OS on the USB, but I'm having issues with the LiveUSB to use for the install
[01:41] <CptRageToaster> Bradley: Are you creating a bootable usb ON a different bootable USB?
[01:41] <Viqta> you want an OS on the flash drive, that is fairly easy, you just search for your distro of choice and download the file
[01:41] <Viqta> it will give more instructions on there
[01:41] <Bradley> O_0  I just want one USB with Linux on it that will load the actual OS instead of the annoying "do you want to install" menu
[01:42] <CptRageToaster> Oh... that's probabyl distro specific...
[01:42] <CptRageToaster> proabably*
[01:42] <CptRageToaster> let's go have a look
[01:42] <Ben64> Bradley: you probably want the live usb
[01:43] <Bradley> making a LiveUSB is just the prep for the os installation though... right?
[01:43] <Viqta> when you burn it on the usb thats all, you will be choosing try (distro name here)
[01:43] <Viqta> i dont think there is away to get rid of that
[01:43] <CptRageToaster> Viqta: There is
[01:43] <CptRageToaster> Bradley: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent
[01:43] <Bradley> well Arch doesn't have that Option, but OpenSUSE does and I couldnt even try it out
[01:43] <CptRageToaster> However
[01:44] <CptRageToaster> you guys are getting at it...
[01:44] <CptRageToaster> Ubuntu, may or may not have this option
[01:44] <CptRageToaster> (either way, clicking "try" everytime isn't the end of the world)
[01:44] <ircfox> Hello folks!
[01:44] <CptRageToaster> but... other distros are built for this application
[01:44] <CptRageToaster> hello!
[01:44] <Viqta> or get away to edit the bootloader if it bugs you that much
[01:44] <ircfox> How do I check if my server has a port closed?
[01:45] <CptRageToaster> ircfox: You can scan yourself ._.
[01:45] <Bradley> okay so now I want to know if it would be better to make a LiveUSB and use it inside of VMware that way I can report any errors that someone knows how to read? :/
[01:45] <ircfox> CptRageToaster: how?
[01:45] <Ben64> Bradley: why use a usb in vmware at all?
[01:45] <CptRageToaster> ircfox: I'm... not 100% telling someone how to run a deep port scan over IRC
[01:46] <Viqta> in vmware you dont need a live usb, you just install it on the vmware
[01:46] <Ben64> ircfox: use nmap
[01:46] <CptRageToaster> ^
[01:46] <Bradley> Ben64: I'm sorry... I can't. I've been explaining that for a little while now
[01:46] <ircfox> Ben64: I am at server side right now?
[01:46] <CptRageToaster> Bradley: So... you just want to "make a bootable USB"
[01:46] <Ben64> Bradley: you can't what? you haven't explained anything
[01:46] <CptRageToaster> and you want to "test it in VMPlayer"
[01:46] <ircfox> Shouldn't I be using something as iptable or something?
[01:46] <CptRageToaster> correct?
[01:47] <Bradley> CptRageToaster: yes
[01:47] <Ben64> ircfox: what
[01:47] <josebolivar> hola
[01:47] <ircfox> Ben64: I am inside server.
[01:47] <Ben64> ircfox: nmap still works
[01:47] <CptRageToaster> Bradley: You can... but why go to all the trouble of emulating a PC with a USB stack, when you can just see if it boots?
[01:47] <ircfox> Ben64: I won't be scanning a port from outside.
[01:47] <Viqta> in vmware you dont need live usb to try out oss on there. u just install them on there
[01:47] <Bradley> Ben64: I've been explainging it before you asked me. I think you may have joined in late
[01:47] <CptRageToaster> Viqta: He's not installing anything IN vmplayer
[01:48] <Ben64> Bradley: i saw everything, you didn't explain it still
[01:48] <CptRageToaster> Viqta: He's simply using Vmplayer as a testing platform (a different "computer" so to speak) to see if his Bootable usb works
[01:48] <Bradley> ben64: i really did. I feel like I have been
[01:48] <MemoryMan> Why does the terminal think these files don't exist, but they show in ls? http://i.imgur.com/LBR8UvF.jpg
[01:48] <degva> Hello guys, is there a way to use the latest intel video drivers on ubuntu 14.04?
[01:48] <Viqta> very confusing.
[01:48] <Ben64> Bradley: you really didn't. how about you stop arguing and explain what you want all on one line
[01:48] <Bradley> CptRageToaster: i actually don't have VMware at the moment. I was asking what I should do.
[01:48] <Viqta> but it does not hurt to try,
[01:48] <CptRageToaster> Bradley: Just see if you can boot the thing
[01:49] <degva> they have ended support to it, and works only on 14.10 - thing is that 14.10 doesn't work good for me :/
[01:49] <Viqta> dont use vmware, if you have a flash drive you can use it to dualboot which is fairly easy that vmware
[01:49] <CptRageToaster> Viqta: ...
[01:49] <Bradley> CptRageToaster: I'll be back if I have more issues.
[01:49] <CptRageToaster> MemoryMan: ls -al in the directory please?
[01:49] <CptRageToaster> MemoryMan: Sounds like a permissions issue
[01:50] <Bradley> Viqta: Thanks for trying. I don't think I know how to word my issue properly, but I'll return if something bad happens
[01:50] <CptRageToaster> ircfox: I don't know enough about asking LINUX how it's doing network wise...
[01:50] <CptRageToaster> but the.... knee jerk reponse, is to ask something outside the server to hit every port
[01:50] <CptRageToaster> then you know whats open
[01:50] <CptRageToaster> and what's not
[01:50] <MemoryMan> CptRageToaster: http://pastebin.com/b1VmKNuM
[01:51] <Viqta> my opinion is that if you have flash drive use it to dualboot instead of vmware, that seems easier and has a comminity support compared to when you will use vmware because people will be saying its the other party's fault and the likes
[01:51] <Guest21477> I installed the Nvidia drivers from their website using the .run file, but now when I boot up the login screen is just black with the cursor :c
[01:51] <MemoryMan> CptRageToaster: I don't think it is permissions because "more test.c" works and has the same permissions
[01:51] <CptRageToaster> yeah
[01:51] <CptRageToaster> that's odd
[01:52] <Ben64> looks like it has a space in the name
[01:52] <MemoryMan> Ben64: Hmm good catch...no idea why that is there
[01:52] <ircfox> Ben64: I use nping and it fails when I use my ISP but outside as in my UNI it works. Perhaps my ISP is blocking some hight ports. I already port-forward the port at my modem.
[01:53] <CptRageToaster> Ben64: Good catch!
[01:53] <MemoryMan> Ben64: Using a text editor and it has never done that before
[01:53] <CptRageToaster> MemoryMan: Easiest fix, open the file in a text editor, and file-save-as without a space in the name
[01:53] <MemoryMan> Yeah I fixed it now, just had no idea why it did that
[01:54] <Ben64> ircfox: you would have to talk to your isp about that
[01:54] <CptRageToaster> well... someone put the space there :)
[01:54] <ircfox> Ben64: my ISP is a robot.
[01:54] <MemoryMan> Maybe it's a bug in the latest update because I don't think I'd make that mistake twice haha
[01:54] <Ben64> ircfox: good luck
[01:54] <MemoryMan> But maybe I did...anyways thanks guys! CptRageToaster Ben64
[01:54] <CptRageToaster> have fun!
[01:55] <ircfox> Ben64: is there a way to test if my ISP is blocking a given port?
[01:55] <Ben64> nmap
[01:55] <CptRageToaster> ircfox: There are some webclients that can hit a port for you... but I don't know if there are any secutiry implications...
[01:55] <CptRageToaster> the other solution is to use nmap...
[01:56] <hkrrsx> telnet
[01:56] <CptRageToaster> security*
[01:56] <CptRageToaster> ^
[01:56] <ircfox> hkrrsx: telnet doesn't work.
[01:56] <Guest21477> Hey guys, when after the boot screen everything's black with just my cursor as an "X" for some reason, how can I fix this?
[01:56] <hkrrsx> telnet client*
[01:56] <hkrrsx> Sorry
[01:57] <Ben64> Guest21477: what video card(s), what version of linux, etc
[01:57] <hkrrsx> webchat feed isn't scrolling right so I'm not keeping up properly
[01:57] <hkrrsx> brb
[01:57] <Guest21477> Ben64: Ubuntu 14.04, Nvidia GTX860M
[01:58] <Ben64> Guest21477: optimus?
[01:58] <CptRageToaster> Guest21477: I'm assuming there's an intel accelerated GPU inside as well?
[01:58]  * CptRageToaster backs off a bit
[01:58] <Guest21477> CptRageToaster: yeap, with the i7
[01:58] <hkrrsx> Baaaaaaack
[01:59] <Guest21477> Ben64: it's a single GPU if that's what you mean
[01:59] <ircfox> Here is the output of nmap https://gist.github.com/anonymous/7fef25e896aaa8eeef13
[01:59] <Ben64> Guest21477: well its not
[02:00] <ircfox> Seems to be working, but if I use telnet it gets hucked
[02:00] <CptRageToaster> For Guest21477's benefit: You have two GPU's inside your PC it sounds like...
[02:00] <CptRageToaster> The GTX860M, which would be a higher power Nvidia card... and then the intel integrated graphics, as a lower-power GPU to use for basically eveything else
[02:00] <CptRageToaster> a lot of nicer laptops do that
[02:01] <Guest21477> CptRageToaster: yeahp, although I thought Optimus referred to two dedicated GPUs
[02:01] <CptRageToaster> I am uncertain... Ben might have been asking a good questions
[02:01] <CptRageToaster> question*
[02:01] <CptRageToaster> I don't know much about GPU/graphics drivers... and that sounds like it could be the problem...
[02:02] <Ben64> basically, you shouldn't have installed drivers downloaded from nvidia.com
[02:02] <ircfox> Any idea?
[02:02] <Guest21477> Where should I install them from?
[02:02] <CptRageToaster> ircfox: ... Are you not able to carry through/investigate any of the options we listed?
[02:03] <Ben64> Guest21477: they come with ubuntu
[02:03] <CptRageToaster> ircfox: You sound a bit like you're asking for a command for you to copy+paste in your terminal
[02:03] <CptRageToaster> and I don't have one for you
[02:03] <Guest21477> Without installing drivers the laptop seems to only be making use of the Intel graphics
[02:03] <ircfox> CptRageToaster: I just told you telnel gets blocked and nmap doesn't shows any sign of problem.
[02:04] <Ben64> ircfox: filtered = filtered
[02:04] <CptRageToaster> maybe you need more specific networking support?
[02:04] <CptRageToaster> I'm not sure if there's a better place where you can get help
[02:04] <CptRageToaster> this is out of my league...
[02:04] <Ben64> ##networking
[02:04] <CptRageToaster> that... or just hang around for someone to read the logs and respond
[02:04] <Ben64> it would really help if you explained more what you want too
[02:05] <CptRageToaster> *if possible
[02:05] <Guest21477> There are web clients available if all you want to do is ping a port
[02:06] <Bradley> okay I'm back. Would anyone be willing to walk me through what I'm trying to do? maybe that'd help clarify my issues
[02:07] <Viqta> okay, please clarify what you want to achieve
[02:07] <Bradley> Viqta: okay so right now I've booted Linux from the live usb to "trial" it. I'm gonna insert a second USB to permanently install the OS on
[02:08] <Ben64> Bradley: you won't like the results of that, will be very slow
[02:08] <Bradley> Ben64: really? O_0
[02:09] <Bradley> Ben64: even if I use it to write code in? I'm not planning on doing anything major like gaming or anything
[02:09] <Ben64> yeah, usb drives are slow
[02:10] <Ben64> just dual boot, or make a live usb with persistence
[02:10] <Arrick> yeah, I wouldnt use a USB drive ro run my os
[02:10] <Bradley> then why would other people suggest it?
[02:10] <Viqta> let me get this straight you have booted into linux and you want to install it on another usb permanently, hard to understand that
[02:10] <Ben64> nobody did
[02:10] <Desu> because they are silly
[02:10] <Arrick> because they are ok with sub par performance.
[02:10] <Bradley> Ben64: not here. in general I've been recommended to do that
[02:10] <Viqta> yes, daul boot is even easier. please do that
[02:11] <Arrick> or are teachers in a school... those that do, dont teach, those that dont, teach.
[02:11] <Desu> if you don't have a partition to spare, then you can use a VM to play around in
[02:11] <Desu> it has some downsides compared to running on real hardware, but it is generally fine
[02:11] <Viqta> you can partition the drive for a linux os, it does not need that much memory
[02:12] <Bradley> :/ well, how much persistance would a liveUSB need if it's 16gb (14.5gb is recognized by windows)
[02:12] <zacharypch> hi -- so i tried to install texmaker today, which had about .7GB of dependencies, and the internet connection dropped out in the middle, now when I do`apt-get update`, i get this "E: Method https has died unexpectedly!", E: Sub-process https received a segmentation fault."
[02:12] <Ben64> Bradley: it doesn't "need" any
[02:12] <zacharypch> i've tried autoremove, autoclean, clean, etc etc, i'm already approaching reinstall as a solution
[02:12] <zacharypch> anyone have any other ideas?
[02:13] <Bradley> Ben64: isn't persistence used to "remember" changes I've made to Linux?
[02:13] <Viqta> try updating and upgrading, then try purging  zacharypch
[02:14] <zacharypch> updating is the thing that causes the segfault tho Viqta
[02:15] <Ben42_> Bradley: yes, but it really sounds like you want dual boot
[02:15] <degva> Hello, why ubuntu 14.04 doesn't recognize intel i915 chipset but 14.10? I'm trying to install Intel HD Graphics 5500drivers on ubuntu 14.04 but nothing so far :/
[02:15] <Bradley> Ben64: but I don't want to dual boot.
[02:15] <Ben42_> Bradley: why
[02:15] <Viqta> then reinstalling it would would and the old packages that were there would be used
[02:15] <cluelessperson> Hey guys, I've lost connection to my server
[02:15] <cluelessperson> the DNS refuses to resolve, any idea why?
[02:15] <hkrrsx> zacharypch: sudo apt-get purge texmakeer && sudo apt-get update ?
[02:15] <zacharypch> well
[02:15] <zacharypch> E: Unable to locate package texmaker
[02:15] <degva> I'm running 14.04.2 - and says only Intel Broadwell
[02:16] <hkrrsx> zacharypch: what command did you run to install texmaker ?
[02:16] <hkrrsx> Or whatever program you went to install
[02:16] <zacharypch> just sudo apt-get install
[02:16] <hkrrsx> zacharypch: that command doesn't specify any program to install
[02:16] <zacharypch> no, sorry, it was sudo apt-get install texmaker
[02:17] <hkrrsx> Ok, then you should be able to do sudo apt-get remove --purge texmaker if it installed at all
[02:17] <hkrrsx> If it didn't install, then that command should fail
[02:17] <zacharypch> E: Unable to locate package texmaker
[02:17] <Ben65> zacharypch: pastebin the output of 'sudo apt-get update'
[02:17] <Viqta> reinstall it with  the gui
[02:18] <zacharypch> ok Ben65 hang
[02:18] <apt-get> hi apt-get here
[02:18] <Bradley> Ben64: I'm on an ASUS GS74x Gaming computer that I use for my animation degree in college. I don't want to dual boot on this machine :/
[02:18] <Ben64> Bradley: i don't see the relevance of the machine specs
[02:18] <Viqta> what is the down side of dualbooting?
[02:18] <Bradley> ben64: because it's for school, and I want all of the harddrive space for school.
[02:19] <onezuff> i restarted my computer and now the sound is not working. i think the module unloaded , my channels are open and volume is up. how do i figure out which module i need to load for my sound card?
[02:19] <zacharypch> Ben65: http://pastebin.com/GBdgd5mj
[02:19] <Ben64> Bradley: then use liveusb with persistence, good luck
[02:19] <Viqta> onezuff, were you using headphones before powering off?
[02:19] <Bradley> ben64 viqta: because linux can't handle the programs i need to run with generic drivers for NVIDIA cards, and processors. I just want a portable linux os on a usb for coding wherever i go without a laptop
[02:19] <onezuff> yes Viqta
[02:20] <Bradley> k thanx sorry for bugging you
[02:20] <hkrrsx> zacharypch: how about running "sudo dpkg --configure -a" ?
[02:20] <hkrrsx> Any difference after running that?
[02:21] <Viqta> then you dont need to do anything the bradley, if you have it on the usb then you already have your linux there
[02:21] <Viqta> onezuff: plug them back on and off lol
[02:21] <onezuff> Viqta: how can i configure the card and load the module? i did lsmod and there were no sound drivers loaded, i think this is the issue
[02:21] <onezuff> that didn't work Viqta i tried that sevearl times already
[02:21] <zacharypch> hkrrsx: no output, no change
[02:21] <hkrrsx> Now try running sudo apt-get update
[02:22] <hkrrsx> Difference?
[02:22] <Viqta> doesn't it appear on the additional drivers?
[02:22] <apt-get> hello apt-get here
[02:22] <zacharypch> hkrrsx, same output actually
[02:22] <onezuff> i dont know what that means Viqta
[02:22] <cluelessperson> Does anyone know why an ubuntu-server wouldn't be able to resolve dns at all?
[02:22] <cluelessperson> then suddenly just stops responding to ssh at all?
[02:22] <zacharypch> Ben64, any idea on that pastebin?
[02:22] <cluelessperson> I do have connection to console with KVM over ip
[02:23] <zacharypch> really seems like i hit some odd edge case that just completely killed my os here
[02:23] <Viqta> its in your menu onezuff
[02:24] <hkrrsx> zacharypch: would you pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list file, please ?
[02:25] <hkrrsx> I'm wondering if one of the repos is having HTTPS trouble
[02:25] <onezuff> how do you determine what module a sound card would need?
[02:25] <Arrick> cluelessperson, under your static config put in "nameserver ipaddresshere"
[02:25] <Arrick> cluelessperson, resolv.conf gets over written every time you restart networking
[02:26] <cluelessperson> Arrick, I can't even access it locally now for some reason
[02:26] <zacharypch> hkrrsx, none of the urls in there are https
[02:26] <zacharypch> just a sec
[02:26] <hkrrsx> ... peculiar
[02:26] <Guest21477> I've uninstalled the Nvidia drivers but I'm still booting up to a black screen with an "X" cursor, does anyone know why?
[02:26] <cluelessperson> Arrick, I have kvm over IP
[02:26] <CptRageToaster> did Bradley leave again?
[02:27] <Arrick> cluelessperson, did you run ifdown something?
[02:27] <j355e_j> cluelessperson, have you tried adding dns to /etc/network/interfaces
[02:27] <zacharypch> hkrrsx, my theory is that i did a partial upgrade of some .so files or some dynamically loaded C things
[02:27] <cluelessperson> j355e_j, yes, but I cannot even access it LOCALLY on the network now
[02:28] <cluelessperson> Arrick, I don't think so, No.
[02:28] <zacharypch> hkrrsx, but it's weird that my browser is fine
[02:28] <hkrrsx> zacharypch: I concur but an apt-get update / upgrade *should* clear that up
[02:28] <j355e_j> cluelessperson, what do you mean locally?
[02:28] <zacharypch> hkrrsx, but whatever apt uses to update is segfaulting
[02:28] <zacharypch> can i download whatever apt-get upgrade needs?
[02:28] <zacharypch> and then just put it where it needs to go?
[02:29] <hkrrsx> zacharypch: apt-get is an automated process, it's not alacarte like I think you're suggesting
[02:29] <apt-get> dear lord
[02:29] <hkrrsx> what do the last few lines of your /var/log/apt/history.log file say?
[02:30] <Guest21477> So noooooo one knows?
[02:30] <zacharypch> hm there are a bunch of commands i did to try to fix this situation
[02:30] <zacharypch> Commandline: apt-get upgrade --fix-missing
[02:32] <hkrrsx> zacharypch: humor me on this .... go into your /etc/apt/sources.list file and comment out the repositories for dl.bintray.com
[02:32] <hkrrsx> Your last pastebin did in fact show this:
[02:32] <yeats> cluelessperson: is the static IP on the same subnet as the dhcp IP?
[02:32] <hkrrsx> Get:6 https://dl.bintray.com
[02:32] <hkrrsx> Note: https
[02:32] <hkrrsx> Afterwards, re-run sudo apt-get update please
[02:34] <j355e_j>  I have migrated to a new drive using btrfs and subvol for the rootvol(/). However, I cannot get it to boot through grub. It now no longer displays a grub menu and goes straight to grub rescue. I have tried live-boot disk and tried 'boot-repair' and tried manually, added an EFI partition, added a grub_boot partition. (http://paste.ubuntu.com/10721462/) Can anyone step me through what i need to do?
[02:35] <Guest21477> When I try to manually start the GUI with startx it gets hung on "loading extension GLX"
[02:36] <Ben64> you should never ever use startx
[02:36] <zacharypch> hkrrsx, ah, i did have one in sources.list.d/
[02:36] <Guest21477> What should I use?
[02:36] <Ben64> sudo service lightdm start
[02:36] <hkrrsx> zacharypch: Progress!
[02:37] <zacharypch> hkrrsx, wowwwow
[02:37] <ircfox> How do I figure if my system has a firewall currently running and how do I figure how it is set?
[02:37] <Guest21477> It brings up just a black screen with a dialog box that says "System program problem detected"
[02:37] <hkrrsx> zacharypch: Success, I presume?
[02:37] <zacharypch> hkrrsx, major gold star for you
[02:38] <moverly> Hi How can I access to my virtual hosted websites from other computers in same network
[02:38] <hkrrsx> Thanks :)
[02:38] <zacharypch> thanks so much for being persistent
[02:38] <Viqta> ircfox, you dont have an application for firewall?
[02:38] <hkrrsx> zacharypch: Here's the thing ... I checked the HTTPS port on that dl.bintray.com using this command:
[02:38] <Guest21477> Is there a way to rectify this?
[02:38] <hkrrsx> curl -ILk https://dl.bintray.com
[02:38] <Ben64> ircfox: sudo iptables -L
[02:38] <ircfox> Viqta: not that I installed it. Just if it is a default one.
[02:38] <hkrrsx> zacharypch: when you run that command, the output is this:
[02:39] <hkrrsx> HTTP/1.1 404 Not Found
[02:39] <zacharypch> weird tho that it caused a seg fault tho right?
[02:39] <hkrrsx> Hence, your HTTPS connection to that site couldn't work
[02:39] <moverly> hi please suggest me How can I access to my virtual hosted websites from other computers in same network
[02:39] <moverly> It is LAMP server on ubuntu
[02:39] <hkrrsx> zacharypch: give their site until morning and check again
[02:39] <Viqta> then go to the gui, new to linux myself
[02:39] <hkrrsx> I'm willing to bet their having site problems right now
[02:40] <ircfox> Ben64: if the return doesn't show any number it means it is completely open?
[02:41] <compdoc> moverly, you need a local dns server is all
[02:41] <hkrrsx> zacharypch: another solution could be to edit that repository and change the HTTPS back to normal HTTP and update again
[02:41] <Ben64> ircfox: yep
[02:41] <hkrrsx> Your pastebin showed that the HTTP connections were fine
[02:41] <moverly> thank compdoc,
[02:41] <hkrrsx> It was the HTTPS connections that were giving you a problem
[02:42] <zacharypch> hkrrsx, yeah it turns out that's a source I don't need - but weird that a 404 on a repo url causes a seg fault
[02:42] <zacharypch> i mean unless i really was in some inconsistent state that looks like a bug in apt-get to me
[02:42] <hkrrsx> zacharypch: look at the last comment on page 1 of this URL:
[02:42] <hkrrsx> http://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.php?f=47&t=192518
[02:42] <hkrrsx> Your issue is identical
[02:43] <zacharypch> haha wow look at that
[02:43] <cluelessperson> Hey guys, I can't get my server up
[02:44] <cluelessperson> It's not responding on the network at all
[02:44] <hkrrsx> zacharypch: glad that you're back in business
[02:44] <zacharypch> yep sure am, thanks again
[02:44] <Ben64> cluelessperson: doesn't sound like an ubuntu problem really
[02:44] <cluelessperson> I don't get it
[02:45] <cluelessperson> Ben64 it definitely is an ubuntu problem, I'm not a moron
[02:45] <Ben64> cluelessperson: how do you figure it's an ubuntu problem
[02:45] <cluelessperson> Ben64, How do you not, the freaking server was unable to resolve DNS, and then became completely unresponsible when I was trying to set static ip settings for DNS
[02:45] <hkrrsx> cluelessperson: what version of ubuntu-server is it?
[02:46]  * cluelessperson goes to look in interfaces again, maybe a typo or something
[02:46] <cluelessperson> hkrrsx, 14.04.02
[02:46] <cluelessperson> I do have console access now
[02:46] <Ben64> cluelessperson: you made it sound like the whole computer died
[02:48] <Ben64> cluelessperson: where is the server, what are you doing to the interfaces file, did you make a backup
[02:49] <hkrrsx> cluelessperson: with your console access, can you ping your server's gateway ?
[02:49] <cluelessperson> Ben64, in my closet, <IP_ADDRESS>,<IP_ADDRESS>,<IP_ADDRESS>   I made a minor modification to interfaces.
[02:49] <cluelessperson> hkrrsx, unreachable
[02:49] <Ben64> what are those 3 ip addresses
[02:49] <hkrrsx> cluelessperson: would you run the "route" command and make sure that the gateway is set
[02:49] <hkrrsx> please
[02:50] <cluelessperson> hkrrsx,   default, <IP_ADDRESS>  gateway: <IP_ADDRESS>  genmask <IP_ADDRESS>
[02:50] <hkrrsx> thanks
[02:51] <moverly_> compdoc, hi can I install dns_sever on laptop, my ubuntu is just Desktop
[02:51] <hkrrsx> cluelessperson: so you can't ping <IP_ADDRESS> from the box?
[02:51] <Ben64> moverly: why ping one person?
[02:51] <moverly_> Ben64: he just answered my quest
[02:52] <sharok> Hello guys! I got a little problem. I've set nomodeset in GRUB for an old 8 year old pc, it failed, I removed it and now I have a picture, but everything looks corrupted. I can't find any fix on google D:
[02:52] <sharok> The gpu is intel integrated graphics
[02:52] <Ben64> moverly: oh, looks like you just joined and pinged him. anyway you can install anything on ubuntu desktop that you can on ubuntu server and the other way around too
[02:52] <cluelessperson> hkrrsx, I have users reporting that they're in my teamspeak server ON the server
[02:52] <moverly_> Ben64, thank
[02:53] <cluelessperson> hkrrsx, but I can't even SSH to it, unreachable from <IP_ADDRESS>
[02:53] <cluelessperson> Ben64,  ^
[02:53] <compdoc> moverly_, what sort of firewall do you use? many of those include dns and allow you to define hosts, etc
[02:53] <moverly_> i enabled ufw
[02:53] <moverly_> and I can access to my localhost
[02:53] <hkrrsx> cluelessperson: have you restarted the SSH service ?
[02:53] <compdoc> no, your internet router
[02:53] <Ben64> cluelessperson: have you restarted networking
[02:54] <cluelessperson> hkrrsx, I can't connect to the server with teamspeak, 80* http, or ssh
[02:54] <moverly_> just simple home router
[02:54] <compdoc> anyway - good luck. time to sign off for the night...
[02:54] <hkrrsx> cluelessperson: and yet, you have users that ARE connected to it using teamspeak ?
[02:54] <compdoc> try pfsense
[02:54] <hkrrsx> Is that right?
[02:55] <cluelessperson> hkrrsx, YES, like wtf.
[02:55] <hkrrsx> cluelessperson: What's the output of " sudo netstat -ntlp | grep :22 " ?
[02:56] <cluelessperson> hkrrsx,   tcp 0 0 <IP_ADDRESS>:22 <IP_ADDRESS>:* LISTEN 1090
[02:56] <hkrrsx> thanks
[02:57] <cluelessperson> hkrrsx, If you have teamspeak   cluelessperson.com
[02:57] <hkrrsx> I don't and I'm heading to bed soon
[02:57] <hkrrsx> Gotta work another 12-hour monster tomorrow
[02:57] <hkrrsx> cluelessperson: one thing that's different on yours is the "LISTEN 1090" part
[02:58] <hkrrsx> On mine, it says LISTEN 1090/sshd
[02:58] <hkrrsx> Eh, no matter .......... sudo service sshd restart
[02:58] <cluelessperson> hkrrsx, what is that?
[02:58] <[Saint]> huh - apparently swap being broken with encryption and lvm is a known thing.
[02:58] <[Saint]> >.>
[02:59] <hkrrsx> The process ID didn't show which program was associated with it
[02:59] <cluelessperson> hkrrsx, unrecognized service?  sshd?
[02:59] <hkrrsx> sudo service ssh restart
[02:59] <cluelessperson> hkrrsx, now 1565
[02:59] <hkrrsx> Try SSH'ing from the outside now
[02:59] <hkrrsx>  /fingers crossed
[03:04] <hkrrsx> ..
[03:05] <cluelessperson> hkrrsx, sorry, no dice
[03:05] <cluelessperson> hkrrsx, helps if you use my name.
[03:05] <hkrrsx> cluelessperson: truer words have yet to be spoken :)
[03:06] <hkrrsx> cluelessperson: how about restarting networking as Ben64 previously suggested
[03:06] <rgb-one> truest
[03:06] <cluelessperson> hkrrsx, how?
[03:06] <hkrrsx> cluelessperson: sudo service networking restart
[03:06] <cluelessperson> hkrrsx, job failed while stopping
[03:07] <hkrrsx> Run it again
[03:07] <cluelessperson> hkrrsx, same thing
[03:07] <cluelessperson> Job is already running: networking
[03:08] <hkrrsx> sudo ifdown eth0 && sudo ifup eth0
[03:08] <hkrrsx> cluelessperson: should effectively do the same thing
[03:09] <cluelessperson> hkrrsx, sudo ifdown p1p1 && sudo ifup p1p1
[03:09] <hkrrsx> Ok
[03:10] <cluelessperson> hkrrsx, now putty only shows this.  SSH-2.0-OpenSSH_6.6.1p1 Ubuntu-2ubuntu2
[03:10] <hkrrsx> cluelessperson: that's better than what you were getting before
[03:10] <hkrrsx> You won't get that unless SSH is listening and connecting
[03:10] <cluelessperson> hkrrsx, it's like it's not letting me connect
[03:11] <hkrrsx> cluelessperson: what about your firewall? would you verify port 22 is open
[03:11] <cluelessperson> hkrrsx, I have is.
[03:11] <cluelessperson> hkrrsx, I'm doing <IP_ADDRESS>  unless you mean ubuntus and I'm not sure
[03:11] <cluelessperson> hkrrsx, this doesn't make sense, it's effecting my work laptop and home desktop
[03:12] <hkrrsx> cluelessperson: Only those 2 machines?
[03:12] <hkrrsx> You can SSH to this box from other computers?
[03:13] <cluelessperson> hkrrsx, it very suddenly works now...
[03:13] <Guest21477> How do I tell which GPU Ubuntu is using?
[03:13] <cluelessperson> hkrrsx, I cannot SSH to it ...
[03:14] <cluelessperson> hkrrsx, wtf, now I can
[03:14] <cluelessperson> hkrrsx, wtf, it's acting wonky
[03:14] <hkrrsx> cluelessperson: pardon me?
[03:15] <cluelessperson> hkrrsx, I can fully connect now, but my users report having been in the entire time
[03:15] <hkrrsx> cluelessperson: who else is logged into the shell on that server?
[03:15] <hkrrsx> Are you the only one?
[03:15] <cluelessperson> hkrrsx, only me
[03:16] <hkrrsx> If it were my server, I'd send a broadcast message to all logged on users that the server will be rebooted in 30 minutes
[03:16] <hkrrsx> And then kick it hard
[03:16] <hkrrsx> Hopefully that permanently resolves this weird issue
[03:16] <hkrrsx> ... and on that note, I am going to bed
[03:24] <benjamin__> hi
[03:26] <Trinity> i'm trying to make a live usb with startup disk creator but I cant put in an iso
[03:27] <Trinity> when i select one it doesn't show in the list
[03:27] <Viqta> format it
[03:27] <lagbox> hello, i had to restart unity and the panel no longer has any of my icons or notification area ... is there a command to restart that ?
[03:29] <gr33n7007h> Trinity: what OS you operating?
[03:29] <Trinity> gr33n7007h, xubuntu 14.04
[03:29] <gr33n7007h> use gnu dd
[03:30] <gr33n7007h> ^^ Trinity
[03:32] <gr33n7007h> Trinity: dd if=whatever.iso of=/dev/sdX bs=512k # X being your drive
[03:32] <gr33n7007h> Trinity: to check your drive `fdisk -l`
[03:35] <gr33n7007h> Trinity: you lost your fingers?
[03:35] <docmur> I've been trying to get ZFS on Ubuntu and for ZFS to function as a single vdev root, via this guide:  https://github.com/zfsonlinux/pkg-zfs/wiki/HOWTO-install-Ubuntu-to-a-Native-ZFS-Root-Filesystem,  however for the grub-install, I can't get it to work, grub-install --boot-directory=/rpool/ROOT/ubuntu/boot /dev/sdb gives me grub-install: error: unknown filesystem.  Has anyone got this work?
[03:35] <Trinity> gr33n7007h, testing it ;D
[03:35] <Trinity> so far so good
[03:35] <Trinity> yup, works like a charm
[03:35] <Trinity> thanks :)
[03:36] <jwash> hi eveyone, i came to my parents house for a couple of weeks and my jmicron ethernet stopped working. it was working great at my house, the adapter is recognized, but network-manager says it isn't managed. any ideas on how to fix it?
[03:36] <gr33n7007h> Trinity: I doubt it'll be done by now :)
[03:36] <gr33n7007h> Trinity: what size was the ISO?
[03:36] <Trinity> 650 mb
[03:36] <gr33n7007h> oki doki :)
[03:37] <gr33n7007h> Trinity: just out of curiosity what ISO?
[03:38] <Trinity> gr33n7007h, arch-linux
[03:38] <gr33n7007h> Trinity: ok
[03:38] <Trinity> I pretty much bricked my display on xubuntu
[03:38] <Trinity> so i figured id take a turn at doing the same with arch haha
[03:39] <gr33n7007h> Trinity: why didn't you ask in #archlinux then?
[03:39] <Trinity> gr33n7007h, i was creating the live usb on ubuntu 14.04LTS
[03:40] <gr33n7007h> Trinity: so?
[03:41] <pavlos> jwash, seems the wifi settings at your house are different from the wifi settings at your parents house.
[03:41] <gr33n7007h> dd is cross platform on all linux deriveties
[03:41] <Viqta> goodnight guys let me get some sleep (it's 0443)
[03:41] <Trinity> gr33n7007h, well to me it doesnt make sense to ask how to install an archlinux iso on an ubuntu OS
[03:41] <Trinity> ahh, i didnt know that
[03:41] <lagbox> anyone know how i can get my icons and notification area back in my unity panel ?
[03:41] <Trinity> I never used a liveusbmaker on linux before, always ported from usbpen on windows
[03:42] <gr33n7007h> Trinity: let you off then :)
[03:43] <gr33n7007h> Trinity: why you switching to arch>
[03:43] <gr33n7007h> *?
[03:44] <Trinity> gr33n7007h, xubuntu feels bloated to me. And the desktop version I had wasn't as stable as the one i had on my laptop
[03:44] <Trinity> it was crashing after a couple of hours
[03:44] <Trinity> nvidia didnt support opengl out of the box
[03:45] <Trinity> and after i fixed that, on restart my pc basically bricked
[03:45] <Trinity> so i thought what the hell might as well go for a xfce4-panel + openbox setup
[03:45] <Trinity> have you ever tried arch?
[03:45] <gr33n7007h> Trinity: I dual boot arch
[03:46] <Trinity> gr33n7007h, how do you like it?
[03:46] <jwash> pavos, i'm talking about wired ethernet not wifi
[03:47] <gr33n7007h> Trinity: arch is awesone
[03:47] <gr33n7007h> *awesome
[03:48] <gr33n7007h> if you know linux
[03:48] <lagbox> is there a place to ask unity related questions ?
[03:48] <gr33n7007h> comprehensivly
[03:48] <aeon-ltd> lagbox: yeah, here if you use ubuntu
[03:49] <lagbox> my unity panel isn't showing any menus for programs and not showing any icons or tray any more after i had to restart unity
[03:49] <aeon-ltd> lagbox: have you tried restarting it?
[03:49] <lagbox> restarting which thing ?
[03:49] <aeon-ltd> the panel
[03:49] <JinjaNinja> Hello
[03:50] <gr33n7007h> JinjaNinja: yo!
[03:50] <lagbox> are you talking about unity-panel-service ?
[03:50] <JinjaNinja> Is anyone on currently particularly good with GRUB bootloader? I'm having a lot of trouble.
[03:50] <aeon-ltd> lagbox: yeah
[03:50] <aeon-ltd> JinjaNinja: if someone is, asking the actual question would help them and you
[03:51] <lagbox> i can kill it and it just restarts the same
[03:52] <JinjaNinja> Okay, well... I had installed Kali Linux as dual boot (but earlier I had erased partitions from my old Ubuntu OS) and now grub won't work.
[03:53] <JinjaNinja> Yes, I have gone into the Live OS via USB, and I have chrooted /mnt so I could reinstall grub. I reboot and it doesn't work still.
[03:55] <lagbox> yea i can keep killing that process and it doesn't get those back
[03:55] <gr33n7007h> JinjaNinja: did you use guided/manual?
[03:56] <JinjaNinja> what, to install Kali? If you're speaking about Kali, I used guided. My hard drive uses GPT
[03:58] <sethj> Any chance someone could tell me why the folder in /sys/class/power_supply is sometimes called AC and sometimes call ACAD?
[03:59] <JinjaNinja> I'm in desperate need of help to fix grub. It's either that, or I restore my computer and install everything fresh.
[04:05] <gr33n7007h> JinjaNinja: guided uses entire disk space?
[04:13] <rgb-one> JinjaNinja: when you chrooted what commands did you run to install grub
[04:15] <belton12> nee help i am unable to run MS-Office in ubuntu by using wine.getting error "IOPL not enabled"..
[04:17] <lagbox> so i have killed the panel-service, restarted unity  and still dont have a functioning panel
[04:19] <marko_> having issues with UEFI trying to get win8 and ubuntu working. ubuntu boots from efi but win8 does not
[04:20] <marko_> have run boot repair
[04:20] <belton12> marko:even i too facing that problem.
[04:20] <gr33n7007h> ];
[04:20] <marko_> driving me mad
[04:20] <gr33n7007h> sorry
[04:22] <ubuntuser13> i'm trying to install geary-0.10.0 email app. but during ./configure xml2po error occured.
[04:24] <lagbox> so what do i have to reset to get my panel to have my icons and indicators again and to actually function as a unity panel ?
[04:26] <marko_> anyone know how to setup efi  partition for dual boot?
[04:38] <lagbox> how about how to logout without the panel ?
[04:45] <knnj> Hello. Does Wine use generic MAC address, not my PC's Mac Address? Thank you.
[04:46] <lagbox> so now i have completely restarted the computer now unity has no window decorations, no dash, no panel nothing
[04:46] <CptRageToaster> knnj: Wine shouldn't be messing with your networking directly
[04:47] <lagbox> is there some settings i should be resetting ?
[04:47] <CptRageToaster> so... I think I'm safe in saying that "Wine uses your PC's Mac Address"
[04:47] <CptRageToaster> lagbox: What did you last do?
[04:47] <CptRageToaster> update a library?  Install a new desktop environment?
[04:47] <lagbox> i had unity/compiz lock up during scale ... i had to kill unity and restart it ... coudlnt' get the panel working right, so i restart the computer
[04:47] <lagbox> i am sure there were updates i took since the last reboot
[04:48] <CptRageToaster> during "scale"?
[04:48] <CptRageToaster> I don't know what that means
[04:48] <lagbox> scale addon
[04:48] <CptRageToaster> so I may not be able to help you
[04:48] <lagbox> when it shows you all the apps on your desktop
[04:48] <lagbox> well running
[04:48] <CptRageToaster> hmmmm....
[04:48] <CptRageToaster> that doesn't sound good
[04:48] <lagbox> its probably just a setting that got fudged :)
[04:49] <CptRageToaster> Are you able to reinstall/reconfigure unity/compiz?
[04:49] <CptRageToaster> unity/compiz/metacity/gnome
[04:49] <CptRageToaster> all the things?
[04:49] <lagbox> i guess i will have to
[04:49] <knnj> CptRageToaster: Thanks for the idea :D
[04:49] <lagbox> i was hoping maybe this was just a gnome-session glitch
[04:49] <CptRageToaster> oh
[04:49] <CptRageToaster> well... if it was on a per-session basis
[04:49] <CptRageToaster> then a restart would have helped
[04:50] <lagbox> yea .. the restart made it worse
[04:50] <CptRageToaster> it sounds like you have borked libs
[04:50] <CptRageToaster> but
[04:50] <CptRageToaster> sadley
[04:50] <lagbox> let me restart the login manager
[04:50] <lagbox> and see if it helps
[04:50] <lagbox> maybe just a hiccup  :)
[04:50] <CptRageToaster> I am not very bright when it comes to managing packages
[04:50] <CptRageToaster> I wish you the best of luck
[04:50] <CptRageToaster> I hope it goes well
[04:50] <CptRageToaster> I'm heading to bed
[04:50] <lagbox> hehe well its way better than the debian days
[04:50]  * cfhowlett "I am not a smart man ..."
[04:51] <CptRageToaster> apt-file search is your friend though!
[04:51] <CptRageToaster> if you're missing a lib, you can use apt-file to tell you exactly what package holds the lib
[04:51] <CptRageToaster> didn't know that until earlier today
[04:51] <CptRageToaster> super handy
[04:54] <lagbox> yea that didn't help
[04:54] <lagbox> just a ton of errors now to report
[04:54] <lagbox> great ... time to reset and reinstall stuff
[04:55] <aliendude5300> Hey, I need to do a file operation frequently and need a linux pro's advice. Let's say I have a file, original.bmp and several other files, [name].bmp. I need to take the first 54 bytes of original.bmp and overwrite the first 54 bytes of [name].bmp with these. What's a quick way to do this, keeping the contents of the file? I was looking into dd.
[04:57] <wolverine> how can i make bootable pendrive to install windows 7?
[05:02] <lagbox> yea so unity is completely uselss for me now ... why does this happen, why is there software this bad
[05:04] <cfhowlett> !flavors | lagbox, you can use any of the what?  6 different flavors of official ubuntu.  choose.
[05:05] <lagbox> i am just interested in why it got screwed up ... i jumped into an xfce session in the mean time ... thank you
[05:05] <cfhowlett> lagbox, add ubuntu-mate to this list.
[05:06] <lagbox> cfhowlett: how do you like mate ?
[05:06] <cfhowlett> lagbox, never used it; I'm on ubuntustudio = xfce4
[05:06] <lagbox> i actually like unity, i just wish it was easier to figure out why these odd things happen , you know ... sorry to sound whiney
[05:07] <cfhowlett> lagbox, :)  first world problems, bro ...
[05:07] <lagbox> i hear ya
[05:07] <lagbox> good point
[05:07] <ibm> anybody can help regarding kernel 3.18
[05:08] <lagbox> i just dont know what settings to reset
[05:09] <ibm> anybody to help me
[05:10] <Lkzclss> http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/
[05:12] <ibm> i am using ubuntu 14.4 and i want to upgrade my kernel to 3.18 linux kernel
[05:12] <ibm> help me
[05:13] <ibm> help
[05:15] <ibm> is anybody here to help
[05:16] <ibm> i am using ubuntu 14.4 and i want to upgrade my kernel to 3.18 linux kernel
[05:16] <lagbox> lovely and my xfce session has no window decorations either
[05:16] <lagbox> what is going on
[05:16] <Lkzclss> if your computer has not any problems ,don't upgrade kernel
[05:16] <ibm> i am using ubuntu 14.4 and i want to upgrade my kernel to 3.18 linux kernel
[05:18] <lagbox> let see if open box works
[05:18] <ibm> i am using kernel 3.13 but now latest is 3.18 is it necessary to update
[05:19] <rgb-one> ibm: nah
[05:19] <Lkzclss> http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/     click this adress,you can find all kernel
[05:19] <naduuu> will we get update from ubuntu for 3.18
[05:20] <lagbox> and openbox doesn't work either
[05:20] <lagbox> i guess something major is screwed
[05:20] <Ullarah> I currently run 3.19 kernel.
[05:20] <rgb-one> lagbox: what is the issue?
[05:20] <Lkzclss> then you can download that you want to upgrade version
[05:20] <lagbox> no window decorations or panels or anything in unity .. no window decorations in xfce, openbox isn't working at all
[05:21] <lagbox> X is being a pain i suppose
[05:21] <rgb-one> lagbox: when did this start happening?
[05:21] <lagbox> about an hour ago
[05:21] <lagbox> had unity lock up, had to kill it .. now i can't get anything loaded right after reboot
[05:22] <naduuu> rgb-one: will i get update from ubuntu for kernel 3.18
[05:22] <rgb-one> lagbox: how many times have you rebooted?
[05:22] <lagbox> 3 i always do it 3 times :)
[05:22] <rgb-one> naduuu: not for 14.04
[05:23] <cfhowlett> lagbox, sudo apt-get dist-upgrade will grab the new kernel if it's in the ubuntu repo.  if not --- wait for it.
[05:23] <rgb-one> naduuu: I think they will stop at 3.16
[05:23] <naduuu> rgb-one: what to do then
[05:23] <lagbox> i have no kernel issues that i know of
[05:23] <rgb-one> naduuu: nothing
[05:23] <naduuu> i didnt heve 3.16 yet
[05:23] <naduuu> rgb-one: i didnt heve 3.16 yet
[05:24] <lagbox> and i am not trying to update a kernel
[05:24] <rgb-one> naduuu: it doesn't really matter
[05:24] <lagbox> im not updating anything
[05:24] <rgb-one> naduuu: these new versions add some additional functionality but some you may not use
[05:25] <lagbox> one minute everything was fine now X is throwing errors left and right
[05:25] <rgb-one> naduuu: if the new kernel adds some functionality you require then update it, otherwise it doesn't matter
[05:25] <naduuu> rgb-one: but also perfromance improvements
[05:26] <naduuu> rgb-one:  how to check new functionality
[05:27] <rgb-one> naduuu: check the Ubuntu release notes
[05:28] <naduuu> rgb-one: can u  share link for me
[05:28] <rgb-one> naduuu: they will have information on the update to the 3.16 kernel and what it offers
[05:28] <naduuu> rgb-one: tnks yooo
[05:29] <rgb-one> naduuu: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TrustyTahr/ReleaseNotes
[05:30] <lagbox> so i guess start reinstalling everything related to X and unity ?
[05:30] <rgb-one> lagbox: what errors are thrown by X
[05:31] <rgb-one> lagbox: can you post it in a paste
[05:32] <lagbox> yea i will gather them up
[05:32] <lagbox> i think i am going to reinstall fglrx first
[05:45] <DJJeff> each time I upgrade the kernel I need to manually rebuild modules for nvidia,virtualbox and others
[05:45] <DJJeff> and I am asking why
[05:45] <DJJeff> and what the hell is this no dkms.conf crap I keep seeing
[05:45] <lagbox> so unity is saying  can't load opengl plugin
[05:46] <lagbox> from compiz, opengl not loaded
[05:47] <Ben64> DJJeff: sounds like you manually installed stuff or otherwise interrupted the normal process where modules get built automagically during a kernel update
[05:48] <cfhowlett> DJJeff, agree: sounds like your started with a custom kernel.
[05:51] <lagbox> yup so it completely blanked out the compiz config
[05:51] <lagbox> that is probably the problem
[06:00] <lagbox> after getting an old compiz config in place ... i can do a compiz --replace and i have everything back except for the panel working correctly
[06:01] <lagbox> unity itself is still complaining about compiz and the opengl plugin though
[06:17] <lagbox> luckily im back to the original question, how to get indicators and icons back into the panel and have the panel be the menu for the current app
[06:21] <sgo11> hi, by following some online tut, I uncomment "prepend domain-name-servers <IP_ADDRESS>;" in dhclient.conf to change /etc/resolv.conf permanently. but it doesn't work. resolv.conf always use nameserver <IP_ADDRESS>. any ideas how to do this? thanks.
[06:23] <stangeland> How can i know what version of ncdump is inside the package named: netcdf-bin ?
[06:24] <stangeland> i believe its this package: http://packages.ubuntu.com/trusty/netcdf-bin
[06:55] <PCatinean> Can I please get a reference to a tutorial on how to install a safe and secure ftp server on ubuntu 14.10 server?
[06:56] <Ben64> ftp doesn't really go along with "safe and secure", i'd recommend using ssh
[06:57] <PCatinean> Ben64, I tend to agree, though it does not have to be bullet proof, it's the way the designers are used to upload their content
[06:58] <Guest19885> cos tam
[06:58] <PCatinean> Or maybe I can use git and make him push to the server but then he must have a way to pull every time he makes a change
[06:59] <lagbox> git web hooks
[07:04] <lagbox> what is the equivalent for unity --reset now that it is deprecated ?
[07:08] <lagbox> shouldn't compiz config settings manager have a unity plugin ?
[07:10] <octavian> Do I lose programs like ISE and Eclipse if I move from Ubuntu to Lubuntu?
[07:11] <Ben64> octavian: if you mean by doing something like "sudo apt-get install lubuntu-desktop" no
[07:12] <octavian> Ben64: nope, I mean completly reinstalling with. If I remember right there is an option:"Replace Ubuntu with Lubuntu"
[07:12] <cfhowlett> !pureubuntu
[07:13] <Ben64> octavian: well if you reinstall you'll lose everything. why not just install lubuntu-desktop as i showed above though
[07:15] <octavian> I don't want to remove kubuntu/lubuntu etc I want to replace Ubuntu with Lubuntu
[07:15] <Ben64> right, so install lubuntu-desktop...
[07:15] <cfhowlett> octanium, this ^^^
[07:15] <octavian> Ben64: I wannt it cause it takess less resources
[07:16] <PrincesseChoco> Hey guys
[07:16] <PrincesseChoco> i ve got a problem
[07:16] <PrincesseChoco> can someone hlep me ?
[07:16] <cfhowlett> !ask | PrinceMotumbo
[07:17] <cfhowlett> octavian, sudo apt-get install lubuntu-desktop OR download the lubuntu .iso, make a boot USB and clean install
[07:17] <octavian> Ben64: that command only removes the interface. it won't give me all the improvements which lubuntu has
[07:17] <Ben64> octavian: yes it does
[07:17] <PrincesseChoco> So, i am a girl and i want to know if my boyfriend got porn movies in this computer, do you know how to easily find them with ubuntu ? (like a command or something like that)
[07:17] <cfhowlett> octavian, false.
[07:17] <cfhowlett> PrincesseChoco, ask #ubuntu-offtopic
[07:17] <Ben64> PrincesseChoco: not on topic here and not appropriate either
[07:17] <cfhowlett> and April 1st was yesterday
[07:18] <PrincesseChoco> what is this topic for ?
[07:18] <octavian> cfhowlett: ok. why?
[07:18] <octavian> cfhowlett: doesn't lubuntu has some sort of ram improments and so on?
[07:18] <PrincesseChoco> Lets speak about aprils fool :D Have u prank someone ?
[07:18] <Ben64> the only difference between ubuntu, kubuntu, lubuntu, ubuntu-gnome is the desktop environment
[07:18] <Ben64> PrincesseChoco: take it somewhere else
[07:19] <cfhowlett> octavian, it's optimized for older hardware, true.
[07:20] <octavian> cfhowlett: I don't have an old pc but resources are always welcome :) so lubuntu seems to be the right option
[07:20] <lagbox> what replaced unity --reset ?
[07:20] <Ben64> octavian: yes... so install lubuntu-desktop
[07:22] <octavian> Ben64: My only concern about that is losing an university program which is big enough(like 20 gb).
[07:22] <Ben64> octavian: you're making this so much more difficult than it needs to be. install lubuntu-desktop. done. easy.
[07:22] <cfhowlett> octavian, that's why you have your backup ... right?
[07:23] <octavian> ok ok I'll try
[07:25] <lagbox> how do i reset everything related to unity ?
[07:30] <lagbox> dconf reset -f /org/compiz/;   setsid unity;        does that sound right ?
[07:37] <fling> Hello.
[07:37] <fling> How is it going?
[07:37] <fling> Have you heard?
[07:37] <lagbox> that bird is the word ?
[07:38] <lemonxah> hi guys
[07:38] <lagbox> hi
[07:39] <lemonxah> box is behind a proxy and we have set the proxy info in the /etc/apt/apt.conf file
[07:39] <lemonxah> doing a sudo apt-get update we get segmentation fault
[07:39] <lagbox> yay seg faults
[07:39] <kill_switch> why is Ubuntu called a spyware by FSF?
[07:39] <Ben64> kill_switch: it isn't
[07:40] <kill_switch> Ben64, FSF is openly calling Ubuntu a Spyware
[07:40] <Ben64> not correct, and not on topic anyway
[07:41] <cfhowlett> kill_switch, FUD ... but perhaps you should read FSF's site for FSF's opinion???
[07:41] <kill_switch> https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/ubuntu-spyware.html
[07:41] <kill_switch> wtf
[07:41] <cfhowlett> kill_switch, off-topic and FUD.  please stop.
[07:41] <kill_switch> Ubuntu is not a spyware, right?
[07:41] <lemonxah> ok so we cant install anything cause package dependencies can not be resolved
[07:41] <lagbox> it is not
[07:41] <kill_switch> ok
[07:42] <kill_switch> Ubuntu Gnome is what I would install
[07:42] <kill_switch> I am scared of spywares
[07:42] <Ben64> lemonxah: pastebin the error(s)
[07:42] <RahulAn> Hii all
[07:42] <lemonxah> ben64 its a segfault
[07:42] <lemonxah> that is all it says
[07:42] <Ben64> kill_switch: the amazon thing is very easy to disable, or as you said, you could install a different flavor
[07:42] <Ben64> lemonxah: i doubt that's all it says
[07:43] <RahulAn> i am trying to boot 14.04, it starts booting but it hangs at a line
[07:44] <Ch|erry> theres no more ubuntu offtopic?
[07:44] <Ben64> Ch|erry: its still there, #ubuntu-offtopic
[07:44] <cfhowlett> !ot | Ch|erry
[07:44] <dupingping> Hi everybody
[07:44] <RahulAn> adding 2008120K swap on /dev/sdb2 . Priority:-1 extents:1 across:2008120k FS
[07:44] <dupingping> I compared the enlightenment & the compiz & the mutter
[07:45] <RahulAn> after this line nothing happens, it freezes
[07:45] <dupingping> So, I got a result, enlightenment is the fastest.
[07:45] <dupingping> I could not understand it.
[07:45] <lemonxah> Ben64, where do you want me to check?
[07:45] <dupingping> Who knows about it?
[07:45] <lemonxah> which logs do you want to see?>
[07:45] <RahulAn> but in rcovery mode it atleast starts, but no x server
[07:45] <Ben64> lemonxah: logs? try installing something and pastebin the result
[07:45] <dupingping> why enlightenment is very fast?
[07:46] <RahulAn> What does this line meanS?
[07:46] <RahulAn> adding 2008120K swap on /dev/sdb2 . Priority:-1 extents:1 across:2008120k FS
[07:48] <deweydb> if i'm running a VPS for just a web server and web services. i have 8 GB ram. what is an appropriate swap size? 8GB? 16GB?
[07:49] <ArcherGodson> 0
[07:49] <deweydb> honestly?
[07:49] <Ben64> 0 sounds fine for a server
[07:49] <deweydb> 0 because saving hard disk space or it would be more performant?
[07:49] <lemonxah> ok
[07:49] <ArcherGodson> It depends on what was on the site
[07:50] <Ben64> you shouldn't need 8GB of ram even
[07:50] <ArcherGodson> performance
[07:50] <deweydb> Ben64: its a very big site.
[07:50] <deweydb> we are just upgrading
[07:50] <Ben64> if it needs more than 8GB of ram, get a server with more than 8GB of ram
[07:50] <deweydb> because we outgrew 4gb
[07:51] <deweydb> ok
[07:51] <deweydb> thanks
[07:51] <ArcherGodson> Its need to see what requirements now on curent host
[07:52] <ArcherGodson> Ben64, +
[07:52] <deweydb> so it already has a 2GB swapp
[07:52] <deweydb> what steps do i take to disable swap completely?
[07:52] <Ben64> remove it from fstab and/or swapoff
[07:53] <ArcherGodson> # swapoff
[07:53] <deweydb> swapoff is a command?
[07:54] <deweydb> does that persist between reboots?
[07:54] <ArcherGodson> and edit /etc/fstab, remove line where is word "swap"
[07:54] <Ben64> no, thats what the fstab bit i said is for
[07:54] <ArcherGodson> yes? command
[07:54] <ArcherGodson> yes, command
[07:54] <ArcherGodson> it is safely
[07:55] <lemonxah> Ben64, http://pastebin.com/iF9w4g2p
[07:55] <Ben64> lemonxah: its because of that repository you have --- https://dl.bintray.com
[07:56] <lemonxah> ok let me try remove it
[07:57] <lemonxah> Ben64, how do you see that? sorry i am new to debian
[07:57] <Ben64> debian?
[07:57] <lemonxah> ubuntu
[07:57] <lemonxah> apt
[07:58] <lemonxah> its for a friend i am on opensuse
[07:58] <lemonxah> so i dont use apt
[07:58] <Ben64> look at lines 45,46, then lines 36,37,39,40
[07:59] <lemonxah> yes ok i see that
[07:59] <lagbox> so now i cant get to my terminals
[08:00] <lemonxah> but how does that indicate that it was the problem?
[08:00] <Ben64> https failed, so find what is https...
[08:00] <lemonxah> oh its because https failed
[08:00] <lemonxah> yeah
[08:00] <lemonxah> nvm
[08:02] <lagbox> so the normal key bindings for getting to terminals just stopped working, any suggestions ?
[08:05] <lagbox> no one knows ?
[08:06] <lemonxah> thnx Ben64
[08:11] <loonybin> ctrl+alt+F keys are not working for me from X, is there another method to move to a virtual terminal ?
[08:23] <ztane> how do I get to know what font is aliased to Monospace in Unity
[08:23] <ztane> seems that there is absolutely no font config left anymore
[08:23] <ztane> in Settings
[08:27] <ztane> seriously?!
[08:27] <ztane> there is no frikkin tool for this anymore?
[08:27] <loonybin> who knows they just like messing stuff up
[08:27] <loonybin> its there thing
[08:28] <ztane> seems so
[08:28] <ztane> I am so going to dump Unity for anything else, even Gnome 3 goes...
[08:28] <ztane> I search ask ubuntu and all of them are for up to 14.04
[08:29] <ztane> unity-tweak-tool?
[08:30] <Myrtti> it's a good tool
[08:31] <ablest1980> hi i need some help i get an ice tea error
[08:31] <ztane> yeah, it seems I am too advanced user for Unity nowadays... I like defaults a lot but the 1 % that I want to configure always seesm harder one version after another.
[08:32] <loonybin> more 'beginner' friendly i guess
[08:32] <ablest1980> http://paste.ubuntu.com/10722718/
[08:32] <ablest1980> ^
[08:33] <loonybin> but i imagine that tweak tool will help you out
[08:33] <ztane> loonybin: I'd rather prefer the "Advanced settings" be hidden with "I know what I am doing"
[08:33] <ablest1980> i think i need java 8 how do i install
[08:33] <ztane> ablest1980: depends on java 8, if you want sun java 8?
[08:33] <ablest1980> i never installed outside ubuntu software center
[08:33] <ablest1980> yes
[08:34] <ablest1980> sun java 8 64 for ubuntu
[08:35] <SVCR3D-SHVD0WS> hey people, Ive an a problem that im hoping someone can help me up on as could find anything helpfull through google... I use a mac but have my ubuntu partitioned on it and when i switch from my yosemite to ubuntu64, everytime i make an upgrade i get another 32 version the the right.. ive got like 5 now :S
[08:36] <ablest1980> they java linux 64 rpm java linux 64 which i should choose?
[08:36] <ztane> ablest1980: I used oracle-java-installer or sth
[08:36] <ztane> wait
[08:36] <ztane> oracle-java8-installer
[08:36] <ztane> package
[08:37] <ztane> but can't remember if it was in official reps :D
[08:37] <ablest1980> show me how
[08:37] <Ben64> its not in official repositories because sun/oracle isn't nice
[08:37] <ztane> wepupd8
[08:37] <ztane> *webupd8
[08:37] <ablest1980> im here http://www.java.com/en/download/help/linux_x64_install.xml#download
[08:38] <Ben64> don't be there, use the ppa that ztane is trying to remember :)
[08:38] <ztane> http://www.webupd8.org/2012/09/install-oracle-java-8-in-ubuntu-via-ppa.html
[08:38] <ztane> ablest1980:  ^
[08:38] <ablest1980> k ty
[08:39] <ztane> I am developing in java 8 at least weekly with that
[08:39] <fling_> test
[08:39] <fling_> fling: :>
[08:45] <ablest1980> ztane i think its working
[08:46] <danemacmillan> Hi--would anyone know why when I switched to the terminal tty with the alt+f keys, then back to the main gui desktop--that my network connection was gone?
[08:46] <danemacmillan> I had to restart the network manager to get it back
[08:49] <ztane> danemacmillan: that has never happened to me (unlike countless other problems)
[08:50] <ztane> I have problems with suspension however, I need to close and open lid again sometimes to get my net back on
[08:50] <ablest1980> ztane i did that now it says im on windows xp
[08:50] <ablest1980> just kidding >D
[08:52] <herol3oy> I have a file in my flash memory its name is "?????" but its inode is 1349 now i'm wonder how can i rename this file to "pix.zip"?
[08:54] <ztane> ablest1980: april fools was yesterday, not today
[08:54] <ablest1980> :)
[08:54] <ztane> ablest1980: for me at least, dunno about your tz
[08:55] <ablest1980> thu april 2 4.55am
[08:55] <loonybin> est
[08:55] <ablest1980> im late
[08:55] <ablest1980> est yes
[08:58] <cluelessperson> Hey guys, I'm having an issue, my server cannot seem to resolve ANY hosts at all
[08:58] <IbrokeEverything> hey guys
[08:58] <ablest1980> hey
[08:59] <IbrokeEverything> please how do i install latest kernell image from https://www.kernel.org/
[08:59] <IbrokeEverything> is that stable 3.19
[08:59] <IbrokeEverything> tar.xz file
[08:59] <Smither> cluelessperson, type "ifconfig" under eth0 or wlan0 if you use wifi do you have an IP address?
[09:00] <mcphail> IbrokeEverything: you can install from source quite easily, but Ubuntu provides prebuilt mainline kernels which can save you the hassle
[09:00] <mcphail> !kernal
[09:00] <mcphail> !kernel
[09:00] <mcphail> whoops
[09:00] <cluelessperson> Smither, one moment
[09:01] <mcphail> IbrokeEverything: if you are using the proprietary nvidia drivers, things can get a bit messy
[09:01] <IbrokeEverything> mcphail what source whwere <<<talk slow tome im stubid windows guy :D
[09:02] <bhack>  vorrei segnalare un bug, kernel 3.19.2 su ubuntu 14.04
 se gli asus serie x vengono fatti partire senza batteria, non viene caricato il modulo acpi e non partono le ventole rischiando di fondere la scheda madre
[09:05] <IbrokeEverything> mcphail i have amd and no 3d pictucture :D
[09:05] <ablest1980> ibrokeeverything #ubuntu-kernel
[09:06] <Ben64> bhack: first, this channel is English only, you may want #ubuntu-it ..... secondly, kernel version 3.19 is not on ubuntu 14.04
[09:06] <IbrokeEverything> ablest1980 is a channel?
[09:06] <mcphail> IbrokeEverything: you have the source already (tar.xz). Honestly - if this is tricky for you just install a mainline kernel or stick with the default. Vivid will be using 3.19 anyway
[09:06] <mcphail> !Mainline
[09:07] <lotuspsychje> firefox 37 is out for those who want to update
[09:07] <ablest1980> its ubuntu kernel ch
[09:07] <Ben64> IbrokeEverything: why do you want to install the newest kernel?
[09:07] <nounity> when I log in I just see the desktop with no bars or anything, and I can start any programs. How can I get unity back?
[09:07] <loonybin> haha
[09:07] <loonybin> gotta love unity
[09:08] <mulga> hey everyone :)
[09:08] <loonybin> nounity, does right clicking on the desktop give you a menu ?
[09:08] <IbrokeEverything> ben64 kuzzzzz amd driver is no good on this 3.16 kernel ,,, like no 3d picture ,,
[09:08] <nounity> loonybin: yes
[09:08] <loonybin> click open in terminal
[09:08] <Ben64> IbrokeEverything: how do you know its the kernel's fault
[09:09] <loonybin> i just spent about 5 hours getting unity back and working so i feel your pain
[09:09] <IbrokeEverything> ben64 i was writing to ubu team and he says ,,, you need upgrade your kernel ,,,
[09:10] <lotuspsychje> IbrokeEverything: what kind of driver loaded and whats your graphics card chipset?
[09:10] <loonybin> nounity, in that terminal that comes up you can try    compiz --replace &   .. might get it going again
[09:11] <Eightynine> Hi. I'm about to download Ubuntu, if I choose Network Install I will have no LiveCD, right?
[09:12] <loonybin> also can try just typing in   unity &  and see if it starts it
[09:13] <Eightynine> How can I download Ubuntu Gnome?
[09:13] <IbrokeEverything> lotuspsychje  is amd graphic xorg bla bla bla    i have an radeon 7420hd
[09:13] <Ben64> Eightynine: ubuntugnome.org
[09:14] <mcphail> IbrokeEverything: have you installed the proprietary AMD drivers or are you using the open-source ones (which come with ubuntu)
 theres 2 prop. drivers i was try them but no change ,,, no 3dpicture
[09:14] <Ben64> IbrokeEverything: laptop?
[09:14] <IbrokeEverything> yes
[09:15] <loonybin> nounity, hopefully one of those commands will help, if not ... who knows, unity just decides to break at will
[09:16] <Eightynine> Can I install Ubuntu Gnome 14.04? Is it available?
[09:17] <IbrokeEverything> so i already downloaaded that file is packed in tar.xz :D i newer heard bout that
[09:18] <mcphail> IbrokeEverything: do you really want to install from source, rather than the easy way?
[09:18] <ablest1980> ty ztane java is working now
[09:18] <ablest1980> XD
 what is eeeeezy way ...
[09:19] <nounity> loonybin: I dont get  an option to open a terminal when I right click (ubuntu 14.04)
[09:19] <mcphail> !Mainline | IbrokeEverything
[09:19] <arcsky> hey, my syslog/messages are empty files, where is my logs?
[09:19] <Ben64> IbrokeEverything: your gpu is very slow anyway, you should just live with the open source drivers
[09:20] <loonybin> nounity, ah, i was hoping you did, i was atleats getting a 'open in terminal' option on my menu
[09:20] <loonybin> so then i could get a terminal open
[09:21] <lotuspsychje> arcsky: /var/log
[09:23] <loonybin> but you can always launch one from a virtual terminal if needed
 anyway on windows can play 3d games
[09:23] <loonybin> unless you are me and cant get to your virtual terminals for some odd reason
[09:23] <hallino1> Has anyone seen dpm (Planella)?
[09:23] <nounity> loonybin: starting unity from a virtual terminal also doesnt work
[09:24] <lotuspsychje> !info dpm | hallino1
[09:24] <loonybin> export DISPLAY=:0;
[09:24] <loonybin> then run your command
[09:24] <King_Hual> hi
[09:25] <loonybin> you probably want to launch a terminal though so you can have it in X
[09:25] <hallino1> Hey lotuspsychje I mean dpm a guy, not a package :P
[09:25] <loonybin> so you dont have to bounce back and forth
[09:25] <hallino1> lotuspsychje: he's what I mean for dpm https://launchpad.net/~dpm
[09:25] <King_Hual> so I have a laptop with an intel/AMD graphics card setup
[09:26] <King_Hual> I tried installing fglrx but now X11 is crashing
[09:26] <King_Hual> worked fine with the default drivers
[09:26] <King_Hual> is there any way I can reset the drivers or fix it in any way without having to reinstall the OS?
[09:27] <nounity> loonybin: still no luck
[09:27] <mcphail> nounity: do you have a terminal open in the GUI now?
[09:27] <IbrokeEverything> Ben64> and you have 2gigs on graphic? :D
[09:27] <PCatinean> Hey guys, if I buy a new ssd with the exact same capacity how would I transfer all data completely from one to the other so I don't have to reinstall ubuntu?
[09:28] <nounity> mcphail: no, but I dont think that matters, you should be able to start unity from the virtual terminal anyway
[09:28] <loonybin> did you export DISPLAY ?
[09:28] <nounity> PCatinean: google clonezilla
[09:29] <mcphail> nounity: no - if unity is really borked you have to restart it from the GUI (or I did anyway)
[09:29] <nounity> King_Hual: yes, you can remove the package from the terminal
[09:29] <Smither> PCatinean, run a live install so you're not using the old ssd then dd to the new ssd (if you dare)
[09:29] <moverly> hi I can't ping to router gateway but other local device
[09:29] <King_Hual> nounity: wouldn't I need to change anything in the xorg config?
[09:29] <Number5> Hello guys, I used 'iotop' to examine IO status of harddisk. I just don't understand the 'IO>' value in percent. In my situation I saw PostgreSql having values between 90%-100%. What does that mean? I googled a bit, but didnt find a clear explanation.
[09:30] <PCatinean> I do not dare, I'm scared :))
[09:30] <nounity> King_Hual: no, afaik xorg config doesnt even exist any more by default
[09:30] <mcphail> nounity: open an xterm in the GUI first and I'll take you through what I did
[09:31] <Number5> moverly, either router has disabled ping or you have a wrong ip address? Maybe a typo?
[09:32] <demoz> Can anyone please throw a look on this http://pastebin.com/FAryWkQL , it is driving me insane as i can't combile negotiate_wrapper for squid ..
[09:32] <lotuspsychje> Number5: man iotop
[09:33] <arcsky> lotuspsychje: yes but its empty syslog and messages there
[09:33] <herol3oy> anyone can explain "{}" and "\;" in this command?  find . -inum 958721 -exec mv {} mam.exe \;
[09:33] <lotuspsychje> arcsky: what are you trying to investigate exactly?
[09:33] <Number5> lotuspsychje, yes I'm sorry
[09:34] <stangeland> in the configure help it says this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/10722856/ does that mean that all files are put in /home/bdi/libs/szip-2.1 when i run make install ?
[09:34] <IbrokeEverything> hey guys what you doing usualy on ubuntu? :D
[09:34] <Number5> herol3oy, I guess {} is the result output of find
[09:34] <lotuspsychje> !ot | IbrokeEverything
[09:34] <svetlana> demoz: install build-essentials and try again
[09:35] <lotuspsychje> arcsky: can you try a tail -f /var/log/syslog in realtime?
[09:35] <herol3oy> ij
[09:35] <herol3oy> ok
[09:35] <svetlana> demoz: build-essential, even
[09:35] <demoz> svetlana: "build-essential is already the newest version."
[09:36] <svetlana> IbrokeEverything: most people are using highly customized versions of ubuntu here and like them (they're so customized that they probably don't fit your needs).
[09:36] <svetlana> demoz: err ok, hold on.
[09:36] <nounity_> mcphail: ok I have a terminal
[09:36] <mcphail> nounity_: sudo apt-get install dconf-tools
[09:37] <loonybin> mcphail, reseting compiz ?
[09:37] <moverly> hi Number5, no. router is OK bcoz I m using same network
[09:37] <mcphail> loonybin: yes
[09:37] <nounity_> mcphail: done
 how customized? some visual?
[09:37] <Number5> moverly, have you tried with another machine on the same network to ping to the router?
[09:38] <svetlana> IbrokeEverything: yup :)
[09:38] <mcphail> nounity_: dconf reset -f /org/compiz/
[09:38] <moverly> Number5, I can ping to this computer. and myBooklive too
[09:38] <moverly> yes
[09:38] <svetlana> demoz: install 'automake' package and try again
[09:38] <Number5> so...?
[09:38] <Number5> same result?
[09:38] <moverly> I just ping to router from this computer
[09:38] <demoz> svetlana i did, i even purged it and reinstalled again :(
[09:39] <svetlana> ok checking
[09:39] <demoz> svetlana if this helps : wget http://sourceforge.net/projects/squidkerbauth/files/negotiate_wrapper/negotiate_wrapper-1.0.1/negotiate_wrapper-1.0.1.tar.gz/download - extract and try to compile ^_^
[09:39] <moverly> Number5, I can ping to router from my computer
[09:39] <moverly> it is OK
[09:40] <Number5> overly good luck
[09:40] <svetlana> demoz: try running 'make' in that directory two times in a row. does it give you the same result both times?
[09:40] <svetlana> demoz: I'm on it.
[09:41] <nounity_> mcphail: then reboot?
[09:41] <mcphail> nounity_: sudo service lightdm restart and log in
[09:42] <philip__> its nagios a free software
[09:42] <demoz> svetlana: if you manage to compile and to send me /usr/bin/ntlm_auth i would be grateful ^_^
[09:42] <philip__> is nagios a free network monitoring software
[09:43] <King_Hual> nounity_: i removed all fglrx packages and the login screen is working fine, gui is fine, but when i log in the system crashes
[09:43] <King_Hual> logging in as a guest works
[09:44] <King_Hual> so it has to be something user-specific
[09:44] <King_Hual> any ideas?
[09:44] <nounity_> mcphail: still nothing
[09:45] <nounity> mcphail: still no luck
[09:45] <mcphail> nounity: still blank desktop?
[09:45] <nounity> King_Hual: how exactly does the pc crash
[09:46] <King_Hual> actually it doesn't crash
[09:46] <loonybin> do you have compizconfig settings manager ?
[09:46] <King_Hual> the screen just flashes
[09:46] <King_Hual> and then takes me back to the loginc screen
[09:46] <King_Hual> login screen*
[09:46] <nounity> mcphail: and I've also purged unity adn compiz and reinstalled
[09:46] <mcphail> nounity: does the guest account get unity?
[09:47] <nounity> King_Hual: that means the X server crashes, strange that it doesnt happen with the guest account
[09:47] <King_Hual> it has to be something user-specific
[09:47] <King_Hual> but i have no idea what
[09:47] <nounity> mcphail: yes, guest account works fine
[09:48] <mcphail> nounity: I'm afraid I'm stumped, then. Your symptoms are similar to mine. Everything else I tried didn't work but the dconf thing did
[09:49] <loonybin> yea i had to reset compiz config, reinstall ubuntu-desktop and unity and i still had to manually do a compiz --replace to get the desktop up
[09:51] <svetlana> demoz: reproduced. I would contact the maintainer -- the program does not compile with the new automake (attempt to re-generate Makefile.in and Makefile using the new automake returns an error,).
[09:51] <demoz> svetlana thank you :)
[09:51] <svetlana> demoz: http://paste.ubuntu.com/10723011/ , if you'd like to share with them.
[09:52] <moverly> hello, a computer can't ping to router after hostname changed
[09:52] <svetlana> details? error message text? does restarting networking help?
[09:53] <philip__> is nagios a free network monitoring software
[09:53] <cfhowlett> philip__, nagios has a website.  full details there.
[09:54] <lotuspsychje> moverly: thats more a question for ##networking
[09:55] <moverly> lotuspsychje, so where do I ask, sorry I m just a newbie
[09:55] <svetlana> moverly: wifi or wireless ?
[09:55] <lotuspsychje> moverly: did you change hostname on ubuntu?
[09:56] <Johnny_Linux> interesting, just had a network update, now, only half og my connections work, with errors saying server not found, and hints ?
[09:56] <moverly> yes
[09:56] <moverly> I change hostname
[09:56] <lotuspsychje> !hostname | moverly
[09:56] <svetlana> :(
[09:57] <svetlana> moverly: take your time to write question with full details -- error message text, how you changed it, wifi or wireless.
[09:57] <moverly> my sudo OK i can use properly
[09:58] <Eightynine> On all distros when I updating Mesa and X.Org I get artefacts. How can I find a cause?
[09:59] <svetlana> moverly: I noticed you were only answering 20% of the questions. This makes it inconvenient, as people have to either stay silent, or repeat their questions (both of which is suboptimal).
[10:00] <mark_chang_1492> I try to bootup with 15.04 from usb storage,  but I can not boot successful. Display "boot: gfxboot.c32: not a com32R image" repeatly. any body have suggestion??
[10:01] <cfhowlett> !ubuntu+1  mark_chang_1492
[10:01] <svetlana> mark_chang_1492: ask #ubuntu+1
[10:02] <trijntje> after upgrading from 12.04 to 14.04 I have problems with an external wifi dongle: the connection appears fine but internet is unavailable untill i disconnect and reconnect
[10:02] <mark_chang_1492> oK, I see, thanks.
[10:02] <svetlana> no worries
[10:02] <svetlana> trijntje, you boot, then you plug in the dongle and it does not work until you replug?
[10:03] <trijntje> svetlana: no, i have to repeat that step every 5 minutes or so to continue using the network
[10:05] <svetlana> trijntje: check dmesg, pastebin
[10:05] <trijntje> svetlana: I boot with the dongle in, it works for a bit, it stops working, I go to het network manager, disconnect, reconnect, it works for a while, it stops agian, repeat. Problem is I do not control the network so I'm not surewhat the router thinks the pc does
[10:06] <trijntje> svetlana: pastebin.com/S46vgRaK
[10:07] <Guest1062> hay
[10:07] <vadya> don hello
[10:08] <moverly> I installed bind9 on my ubuntu, and configured. All worked well. I restarted my laptop.
[10:08] <moverly> I changed my hostname bcoz too long to access from other computers then I can't use sudo. so I restart and edit my hosts file.
[10:08] <moverly> After that I can't access internet. I tried many way. and tail -f /var/log/sysinfo
[10:08] <moverly> and I got these errors
[10:08] <moverly> wlan0: CTRL-EVENT-SCAN-STARTED
[10:08] <moverly> nl80211: send_and_recv->nl_recvmsgs failed: -33
[10:08] <Guest1062> Как ты?
[10:08] <Guest1062> Я бог
[10:08] <Guest1062> Путин
[10:08] <trijntje> !ru
[10:08] <kevinde> Is it possible to make ubuntu startup browser only when you startup a pc with no other options available?
[10:08] <trijntje> moverly: the hostname is in a lot of files, you shouldnt change it
[10:09] <Guest1062> I am superman
[10:09] <vadya> Путин наш бог! =)
[10:09] <Guest1062> !
[10:09] <kevinde> just when you start the pc, automatically run the browser and disable everything else to change settings?
[10:09] <cfhowlett> kevinde, "kiosk mode" so yes
[10:09] <kevinde> ok, thanks
[10:09] <moverly> the problem is I can't use internet from that computer
[10:09] <Guest1062> Node
[10:10] <phiopi> i'm newbie haha
 Почему Путин, ты же с Украины?
[10:10] <Guest1062> I am Stew D
[10:10] <Guest1062> А ты откуда?
[10:10] <ArcherGodson> its uor spy )
[10:10] <Eightynine> Я?
[10:10] <phiopi> where are u come from guys
[10:11] <lotuspsychje> !english
[10:11] <Guest1062> Ukraine
[10:11] <Eightynine> I'm from Russia.
[10:11] <phiopi> i'm indonesia..
[10:11] <svetlana> Eightynine: hi,
[10:11] <svetlana> Eightynine: one sec
[10:11] <lotuspsychje> !ot
[10:12] <Eightynine> Can I use Unetbootin to write Ubuntu to my flash drive or better to use dd?
[10:12] <Eightynine> Hi, Svetlana.
[10:12] <svetlana> lotuspsychje: dammit
[10:12] <lotuspsychje> svetlana: ?
[10:12] <vadya> Продам оружие!!
[10:12] <svetlana> lotuspsychje: one moment
[10:12] <vadya> Бомбы, рапг...
[10:13] <vadya> Слава Путину
[10:13] <lotuspsychje> !ru | vadya
[10:13] <phiopi> what channel do you like in this server guys
[10:14] <lotuspsychje> phiopi: this is not the place to discuss this
[10:14] <Eightynine> What about my question about flash drive?
[10:14] <Guest1062> Satan is my God!!
[10:15] <lotuspsychje> Eightynine: from wich Os are you going to make an usb
[10:15] <lotuspsychje> !ops | Guest1062
[10:15] <phiopi> what is your gadget
[10:15] <lotuspsychje> phiopi: please stick to ubuntu support in this channel
[10:16] <svetlana> Eightynine, unetbootin puts an iso to a flash drive. dd has to extract iso first.
[10:16] <Eightynine> I'm using openSUSE.
[10:16] <Myrtti> Guest55953: could you please stick to Ubuntu support?
[10:16] <Myrtti> Eightynine: good for you?
[10:16] <Myrtti> Guest55953: sorry, mistab
[10:17] <danmo98> what ?
[10:17] <Myrtti> Guest1062: ok, and what does that have to do with Ubuntu? if nothing, please find something else to do
[10:17] <Guest1062> I hate you
[10:17] <svetlana> Eightynine, unetbootin is easier to use.
[10:17] <Eightynine> I know. So, I'll install it now.
[10:17] <phiopi> good luck eight
[10:18] <trijntje> after upgrading from 12.04 to 14.04 I have problems with an external wifi dongle: the connection appears fine but internet is unavailable untill i disconnect and reconnect from the networkmanager. This repeats every5 minutes or so
[10:18] <ArcherGodson> dd is easier
[10:18] <Eightynine> Thanks. I'm switching to Ubuntu Gnome.
[10:19] <phiopi> brb guys
[10:19] <Eightynine> Damn, there's no unetbootin in repos. Should I write bs=1M or 4M?
[10:21] <lotuspsychje> trijntje: you could try a tail -f /var/log/dmesg and tail -f /var/log/syslog to see whats happening on your connection
[10:21] <lotuspsychje> trijntje: wich chipset is this wifi dongle?
[10:27] <trijntje> lotuspsychje: its a Realtek RTL8188CUS
[10:28] <lotuspsychje> trijntje: maybe its because of the realtek firmware that has changed
[10:28] <lotuspsychje> trijntje: try the realteks website for driver/firmware on linux
[10:28] <lotuspsychje> !realtek | trijntje
[10:29] <Eightynine> I successfuly recorded Ubuntu ISO to my flash drive, going to install now.
[10:29] <jankes> hello
[10:30] <jankes> if you know read sth about ubunto, look at this page:  http://tinyurl.com/pfxjs2t
[10:31] <peleg> I have just purchased a new Dell Latitude E7450, and there's an annoying bios bug which causes some keystrokes to repeat (see http://en.community.dell.com/support-forums/software-os/f/3525/p/19618638/20748484)
[10:31] <acerimmer_> jankes, no random spam in this channel, please
[10:31] <peleg> Canonical certifies that model, so I have notified them: https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu-certification/+question/264500
[10:32] <lotuspsychje> peleg: ubuntu version?
[10:32] <peleg> lotuspsychje: 14.04
[10:32] <peleg> lotuspsychje: 14.04.02 in fact
[10:32] <lotuspsychje> peleg: did you check if the bios flash has that known issue on dell?
[10:33] <peleg> lotuspsychje: there's a discussion about it in Dell's community website, but nothing formal I'm afraid
[10:33] <peleg> I don't think Dell admit that this bug exists
[10:34] <peleg> I was wondering whether you think it's a good idea to stick to this laptop, or return it to store and buy Lenovo or something...
[10:34] <lotuspsychje> peleg: normally dell should perform very well on ubuntu
[10:35] <peleg> lotuspsychje: this is really not new. The community post I've referred to is from February, and it refers to older posts on previous Dell models which are older
[10:35] <peleg> and this guy really suggests not to buy dell for this reason: http://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/2sg27n/psa_do_not_buy_a_dell_latitude_e74xxe64xxe545xx/
[10:36] <lotuspsychje> peleg: well for hardcore bugs like this, try other versions of ubuntu perhaps, 14.10 or 15.04, other kernels perhaps, or no_acpi boot
[10:36] <lotuspsychje> peleg: there is a dell specialy made for ubuntu, and all the dells i installed 14.04 on, goes rocketfast
[10:37] <cfhowlett> lotuspsychje, TWO Dells :)  xps 13 and m3800 developer editions
[10:37] <lotuspsychje> peleg: i would also advise you to file a bug + askbuntu your speciic issue
[10:38] <lotuspsychje> cfhowlett: nice :p
[10:38] <peleg> lotuspsychje: I don't think this is an ubuntu issue, therefore I don't think upgrading would help. I think this issue affect every linux distribution.
[10:39] <lotuspsychje> peleg: if a dell bios update doesnt work, and you tryed many ubuntu versions...
[10:39] <peleg> lotuspsychje: see for example: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Dell_Latitude_E7440#Keyboard_inputs_the_same_character_multiple_times_on_one_keypress (but there they claim the issue was fixed by a newer bios version, which is irrelevant for my Dell model)
[10:40] <lotuspsychje> peleg: i would try all possible ways that lays in your power
[10:40] <peleg> lotuspsychje: and this: http://en.community.dell.com/support-forums/laptop/f/3518/t/19593360 shows it affect Debian as well
[10:40] <lotuspsychje> peleg: what about windows, you got this bug there?
[10:41] <peleg> ok, so I'll put something in AskUbuntu, but my time window to return the computer to the store closes quickly (I have a week+)
[10:41] <peleg> lotuspsychje: in all forums they say that the bug existed earlier in Windows, but was fixed in later bios version
[10:41] <lotuspsychje> peleg: if it works on windows, it must be linux related then
[10:41] <cfhowlett> peleg, if it's an ubuntu/debian bug, perhaps a different distro family, e.g. fedora??
[10:42] <lotuspsychje> peleg: askbuntu + launchpad bug it, you never know what will come up of ideas :p
[10:42] <lotuspsychje> !bug | peleg
[10:42] <mcphail> peleg: in my view, If they sell a defective product they should expect returns. I would send it back. Messing about with different distros is not an answer
[10:43] <lotuspsychje> mcphail: they could say, we advise you to install Ms windows :p not our problem
[10:43] <peleg> mcphail: sure; but I ask here to get opinions about other manufacturers. For example, do you think Lenovo thinkpads will make less trouble..?
[10:44] <lagbox> i take each laptop as its own thing
[10:44] <cfhowlett> peleg, lenovo is generally quite linux friendly - that said, YMMV
[10:44] <lotuspsychje> peleg: hp is linux friendly, but thats not an insurance its never gonna bug..
[10:44] <lagbox> i have had hp's
[10:44] <lagbox> and only had issues with the Radeon cards
[10:44] <lagbox> otherwise great
[10:46] <ablest1980> anyone a c++ python ide?
[10:46] <ablest1980> know*
[10:47] <cfhowlett> ablest1980, python.org lists several
[10:47] <ablest1980> k ty
[10:47] <mcphail> peleg: I don't have a recent thinkpad. Old ones worked well with Linux. My wife's consumer-grade dell laptop runs well with a live ubuntu USB. In all these things, YMMV
[10:47] <ablest1980> is geany one?
[10:47] <cfhowlett> ablest1980, geany is an editor ...
[10:48] <ablest1980> ok
[10:48] <ablest1980> where on python.org?
[10:49] <lagbox> wiki
[10:51] <BluesKaj> Hi folks
[10:51] <jankes> ablest1980:  so, if you don't mind look at this: i think it is a good place to use this page: http://tinyurl.com/pfxjs2t
[10:52] <ablest1980> not in engliah
[10:53] <trijntje> lotuspsychje: I'll give it a try, thanks!
[10:53] <jankes> so, what do you think about it?
[10:54] <jankes> i am also interested in Linux, but i have to collect more materials
[10:55] <ablest1980> do you know if i can use eclipse for python and c++?
[10:56] <lagbox> more than likely
[10:59] <ruby_on_tails> when i want to install a software and the software provider gives me something called a static build, which is basically a folder named after the sofware, where do i put it on my system to make it work?
[11:01] <mcphail> ruby_on_tails: there are no rules for this. there will probably be an executable file in the folder. Runnisng this will probably start the program. But, as I said, there are no rules
[11:02] <ruby_on_tails> mcphail: http://ffmpeg.org/download.html#LinuxBuilds this is what i downloaded, i have no clue what to do with it
[11:03] <mcphail> ruby_on_tails: I can't download that from here to check. But do you need to download from the manufacturer? Is the application not in the repositories already?
[11:03] <cfhowlett> ruby_on_tails, ffmpeg is currently deprecated from ubuntu. it returns in 15.04 I believe.  use avconv until then.
[11:03] <mcphail> aah
[11:03] <ruby_on_tails> mcphail: its ffmpeg, the repo has libav which is a fork or something, i want to use the original ffmpeg
[11:04] <ruby_on_tails> cfhowlett: i want to use the original ffmpeg
[11:04] <cfhowlett> libav-tools
[11:04] <mcphail> ruby_on_tails: is there a README or INSTALL file in the folder?
[11:05] <ruby_on_tails> mcphail: there is a readme, no instructions on where to place the folder
[11:05] <Opinie> ruby_on_tails, just sudo make install?
[11:05] <ruby_on_tails> there is a install file, reading that
[11:05] <mcphail> ruby_on_tails: as I said, there are no rules on where to place folders. it is up to you.
[11:06] <mcphail> ruby_on_tails: you may want to make sure the executable binary is in your $PATH. that will ensure you can call it easily from the command line
[11:08] <Codmadnesspro> Does anyone know any bleachbit alternatives that are for terminal?
[11:08] <mcphail> ruby_on_tails: a common convention is to place user-installed software (rether than software provided by the distribution) under /usr/local/.
[11:08] <mcphail> ruby_on_tails: you should find /usr/local/bin as part of your $PATH
[11:15] <lotuspsychje> Codmadnesspro: http://bleachbit.sourceforge.net/documentation/command-line
[11:15] <ruby_on_tails> mcphail: just putting the folder in usr/local and done?
[11:15] <mcphail> ruby_on_tails: no - you need to find out what is the executable file in the folder
[11:15] <darius93> anything I can do for the camera to make it more clear like it was on windows?
[11:16] <ruby_on_tails> mcphail: so confusing :(
[11:16] <ruby_on_tails> do i have to uninstall the existing ffmpeg i have first? older version?
[11:17] <mcphail> ruby_on_tails: not really, if this is a proper static build
[11:17] <mcphail> ruby_on_tails: if you have ffmpeg under /usr/bin (i.e. installed by ubuntu), placing your new version under /usr/local/bin will take precedence as that folder comes first in your $PATH
[11:19] <lotuspsychje> !info cheese | darius93
[11:21] <peleg> I have posted this bios bug as a question in askubuntu: http://askubuntu.com/questions/604382/dell-latitude-e7450-repeating-keystrokes-issue
[11:21] <peleg> Any other way you suggest to contact Canonical?
[11:22] <lotuspsychje> peleg: #ubuntu-devel you could ask hardcore bugs maybe
[11:23] <lotuspsychje> peleg: launchpad bug will also attract solutions
[11:26] <darius93> lotuspsychje, i have cheese but the problem is that the quality is not so great. It is barely clear, looks like the resolution is low (even though its not)
[11:27] <lotuspsychje> !webcam | darius93
[11:29] <Eightynine> I have just installed Ubuntu Gnome and it works slow. I used Gnome 3.14 on openSUSE and it consumed twice less resources than 3.10. How can I update Gnome to the latest version or at least 3.14?
[11:30] <peleg> lotuspsychje: thanks
[11:34] <Eightynine> Check this please. http://linoxide.com/linux-how-to/install-gnome-3-16-ubuntu-mint-arch-linux/ is this safe to do that? I don't want to have any problems.
[11:35] <EriC^^> !info gnome-shell
[11:35] <lotuspsychje> Eightynine: if you got slow performance you better choose something less, maybe ubuntu desktop 14.04 will peform better?
[11:36] <cfhowlett> Eightynine, if you don't want problems, you should wait for the official gnome update from ubuntu
[11:36] <Eightynine> Ubuntu installed updates and asked to reboot my PC. Gnome will be updated after reboot too or it's required only for kernel installation? It's updated kernel too.
[11:38] <Eightynine> I don't know about Unity, I've heard it consumes a lot of resources and sometimes works slow and could be buggy. If I will use Gnome I need at least 3.12 or 3.14 because older versions working slower and are heavier.
[11:42] <Eightynine> Ubuntu update tool is not usable, needs some optimisation and add new colums like Version installed and Version available and Download size. Two panels. Upper will show updates and lower will show details like bugs/issues fixed, what was improved/added, etc
[11:45] <ioria> the Builder in the new release 3.16  sounds interesting ....
[11:47] <Eightynine> I turned on components like Software from partners and ubuntu-proposed.
[11:48] <cfhowlett> Eightynine, "proposed" essentially means "beta".  you break it, you fix it
[11:49] <Eightynine> I didn't know that.
[11:49] <Eightynine> And what about partners?
[11:50] <cfhowlett> Eightynine, take a minute to read your repo notes:   more /etc/apt/sources.list
[11:51] <cfhowlett> drop that in a terminal and read
[11:51] <Eightynine> And what about update tool? Will developers do what I wrote?
[11:52] <cfhowlett> Eightynine, of course.  EVERY user suggestion is implemented immediately and without question!
[11:52] <lagbox> yes, they will take every suggestion and do it
[11:52] <ioria> i  didn't know that you can   try   the new Gnome with a live image ... cool
[11:54] <Eightynine> If it's true what you guys wrote than I would be glad and it'll be a good work to enhance your distro. I would be glad to help to make this distro better.
[11:59] <Eightynine> Chrome is available only in PPA?
[11:59] <Myrtti> it's available from Google.
[11:59] <k1l_> Eightynine: due to the license you cant include that into any other repo. only google is allowed to ship it.
[12:00] <k1l_> so load the .deb from their side and it will install the google repo, too
[12:00] <Eightynine> Is Virtualbox working good with Ubuntu?
[12:00] <daftykins> yes.
[12:00] <k1l_> Eightynine: its working as espected
[12:00] <daftykins> you should probably try these things first hand ;)
[12:02] <Eightynine> I tried Virtualbox on Arch and Xubuntu, sometimes it lost vdi, I had to add it again. But it worked worst with openSUSE, developers adviced me to change distro, I chose Ubuntu LTS with Gnome.
[12:04]  * Robert- #ATW-RO :)
[12:04] <Eightynine> Also I had a bug with Num Lock indicator. It turned off when changing layout and trying to write something.
[12:07] <Guest87452> salve
[12:07] <Eightynine> How fast is apt after zypper.
[12:08] <ntkln> I have a problem with my usb flash drive I can't format it and it created a second partition
[12:08] <ntkln> Here: http://s29.postimg.org/ynfrvp4uv/dev_sdb_GParted_001.png
[12:09] <ioria> Eightynine,   better for me, but  pacman it'a bolt
[12:10] <Eightynine> Maybe addons to support FAT32 or NTFS are not installed?
[12:10] <daftykins> ntkln: "sudo parted -l | pastebinit"
[12:11] <k1l_> ntkln: try to unmount it first in gparted
 openSUSE is total crap about updates. pacman is pretty good and I consider it handy.
[12:12] <daftykins> !ot | Eightynine
[12:12] <k1l_> Eightynine: we focus on technical ubuntu support in here and dont call names, especially on other distros.
[12:13] <ntkln> daftykins: http://paste.ubuntu.com/10723594/
[12:13] <Eightynine> I added Gnome repo and Ubuntu asks me to install updates, I wonder if I should agree or not, I'm afraid it'll be buggy. But I need at least 3.12 or 3.14 as I said or the latest version if it's stable already.
[12:14] <King_Hual> I'm having the exact same problem as http://askubuntu.com/questions/581753/weird-sound-effects-issues-effects-delayed-with-hard-freeze-volume-changes-eit
[12:14] <King_Hual> but nobody's answered it
[12:14] <k1l_> Eightynine: you added the repo. so what are you afraid about that it ships other/new versions? if you dont want that dont add the repo
[12:14] <daftykins> ntkln: it's kinda weird your NTFS partition being '2' and there being no '1', if you have no important data on there i'd wipe it and start again
[12:15] <Eightynine> Can I downgrade it if there will be problems?
[12:15] <King_Hual> pulseaudio returns 'connection refused' from what i gathered
[12:15] <k1l_> Eightynine: you can use ppa-purge to get rid of that ppa and its packages
[12:17] <Eightynine> I installed russian version of Ubuntu but I have Firefox in english. Why?
[12:18] <k1l_> install the language pack for firefox?
[12:19] <ntkln> daftykins: do you mean format it (because it doesn't work)? how can i wipe it correctly
[12:20] <daftykins> ntkln: create a new partition table
[12:20] <k1l_> ntkln: please pastebin "dmesg"
[12:21] <Eightynine> Why it was not installed during system installation?
[12:22] <ntkln> k1l_: http://paste.ubuntu.com/10723651/
[12:24] <k1l_> ok, no error there.. but its strange that there is only sdb2.
[12:24] <k1l_> ntkln: make a right click on that first partition and choose "unmount". then make a new partiiton table
[12:35] <H2No3> hello there, I am trying to move music tracks in rhythmbox to the mp3 player. but I get an error saying 'error transferring tracks - resource not found'
[12:35] <H2No3> the tracks are in mp3 format
[12:36] <iconic1> You making a playlist?
[12:36] <H2No3> iconic1, no just adding tracks to mp3 player
[12:40] <Budd> I've (several times) accidentally invoked a scrolling-screen mode in Studio Ubuntu - all mouse motion scrolls the entire window (including header bar). How to I toggle this back?
[12:40] <akerbeltz> afternoon. anyone know of some way of disabling print error sheets? Got a problem with an Oki preinter on Mint which prints fine but insists on throwing in an Error Sheet about a timeout error.
[12:41] <bazhang> akerbeltz, mint?
[12:41] <H2No3> any help?
[12:42] <akerbeltz> Linux Mint. I tried the Mint channels but they seem dead but figured the same problemn/solutionb might well apply on Ubuntu
[12:42] <H2No3> ok I restarted rhythmbox, and now it seems to transfer tracks
[12:42] <k1l_> !mint | akerbeltz
[12:43] <akerbeltz> ah thanks there are actually ppl in that one!
[12:43] <daftykins> ;)
[12:49] <AstralFX> Has anyone used iptables?
[12:49] <daftykins> AstralFX: you're going to need to ask a more specific question than that ;)
[12:49] <AstralFX> When I connect to a VPN, and say use iptables to DROP data to a certain site. Should the iptables still be DROPing even with VPN on (since data is routed to vpn first)?
[12:51] <eksperimental1> hi guys
[12:51] <eksperimental1> anybody has experience with cgroups?
[12:52] <eksperimental1> i cannot make it run, and I don't know what i'm doing wrong.. first of all, is there anything with with having cgroup-bin and cgroup-lite both installed in my system
[12:52] <AstralFX> e.g. turn vpn on, check test sites for dns/ip (no leaks)..so if i access google, i'm not leaking my real data.. however if i use an iptable to DROP all traffic to google, even with the VPN on, I can't access google.. even though all data is routed to vpn hence i'm protected.. man I don't understand why iptables work like this, and i can't find info to resolve it
[12:53] <n4302> hi
[12:54] <n4302> any tuts?
[12:54] <hkrrsx> mornin'
[12:55] <daftykins> n4302: for what?
[12:55] <bazhang> !manual | n4302
[12:55] <n4302> night  here lol
[12:56] <tKumse> :q
[13:18] <trijntje> I'm using a toshiba tecra with 14.04 and I would like to be able to disable the touchpad when typing so I dont jump all over the place when I accidently touch the pad during typing. Any pointers?
[13:21] <Alex-Mes> 5. FREE STEAM GAMES http://tinyurl.com/ptv3gfv
[13:21] <daftykins> no thanks
[13:22] <xubuntu> สวัสดี
[13:22] <xubuntu> ว่าไง
[13:22] <daftykins> english only please :)
[13:24] <Guest151> My name is Teay
[13:25] <Viqta> hello
[13:25] <Guest151> Thailand
[13:26] <argha> hello..
[13:26] <pavlos> trijntje, system settings | mouse & touchpad ... disable touchpad
[13:26] <argha> can anybody tell me how to host a jekyll project from local computer?
[13:29] <argha> anybody know
[13:29] <trijntje> pavlos: there are no options there to disable the touchpad
[13:29] <faLUCE> hello. do you know if ubuntu works well on an Asus F200MA-BING-KX376B notebook?
[13:29] <solsTiCe> trijntje: in system settings/mouse/pad you can disable the touchpad
[13:30] <solsTiCe> trijntje: at least in 15.04
[13:30] <Viqta> faLUCE, it should work out of the box, but check for driver support with asus
[13:30] <faLUCE> Viqta: how can I check?
[13:31] <trijntje> solsTiCe: I'm on 14.04
[13:31] <argha> how do i know how much space remian in my  hardisk from ubuntu?
[13:31] <argha> ***********************
[13:32] <pavlos> trijntje, my laptop is 14.04 and I have that option, there is a switch on/off for the touchpad.
[13:33] <pavlos> trijntje, install unity-control-center
[13:34] <ading> aaa
[13:34] <ading> nihao
[13:34] <ading> 你好
[13:34] <pavlos> trijntje, install ubuntu-desktop
[13:37] <trijntje> pavlos: I have unity control center, but it simply doesnt have the option to disable the touchpad
[13:38] <pavlos> trijntje, try install ubuntu-desktop from links I see
[13:39] <pavlos> trijntje, http://askubuntu.com/questions/453440/missing-system-settings-after-removing-some-packages
[13:40] <trijntje> pavlos: I have ubuntu-desktop, and I have unity control center. I just don't have an option to disable the touchpad from "mouse and touchpad". So what else can I try?
[13:41] <pavlos> trijntje, update/upgrade to make sure you got the latest. Not sure why you dont have the touchpad option.
[13:41] <E1ephant> so confused
[13:41] <E1ephant> https://gist.github.com/lkmhaqer/f2117aad56c939fec30e
[13:41] <Viqta> check on the function keys of your laptop, the ones that you can toggle on or off using the fn key
[13:43] <trijntje> pavlos: my install is up to date, and I cannot upgrade to 15.04 since I'm on a production machine
[13:43] <trijntje> Viqta: those keys have no effect
[13:43] <viGtor_> hi guys, i own a macbook pro and id' like to reasign the "eject" key (as i dont use cdrom anymore) with the supr key, i find nothing :(
[13:43] <Viqta> they do for me
[13:44] <Viqta> viGtor: use compiz editor to add shortcuts using keys on your computer
[13:45] <viGtor_> i use gnome version
[14:02] <asfyxia> join ubuntu-nl-team
[14:03] <G66k> `hello everyone im using ubuntu 14.04 i got this error while trying to install Depends: rubygems but it is not going to be installed
[14:03] <Vennix> https://soundcloud.com/j-saint1/bring-it-saint if anyone wants a sweet track to listen too
[14:05] <k1l_> Vennix: that is more a topic for #ubuntu-offtopic :)
[14:05] <Vennix> alright ^^]
[14:17] <rgb-one> G66k: Can you elaborate?
[14:18] <G66k> rgb-one, im trying to install wpscan but seems ubuntu doesnt has the require depencity
[14:22] <Opinie> G66k, sudo apt-get -f install?
[14:22] <apt-get> hello apt-get here
[14:22] <rgb-one> G66k: Have you followed the instructions here? https://github.com/wpscanteam/wpscan/
[14:22] <G66k> rgb-one,  yes i do
[14:23] <G66k> let me try what Opinie suggest
[14:23] <Opinie> G66k, I'd suggest you follow the documentation rgb-one suggested
[14:24] <rgb-one> G66k: I will try to reproduce the error
[14:24] <Chetic> how come nothing happens when I start an RDP session? I've done everything everybody says when I google it, but all I get is that damn X11 background and X cursor
[14:25] <Chetic> I can start xeyes in the session by doing DISPLAY=:1 xeyes but nothing happens if I do gnome-session the same way (and no error messages)
[14:25] <Opinie> Chetic, is lightdm running?
[14:26] <Chetic> Opinie: it seems a process named lightdm is running many times over
[14:26] <Opinie> k
[14:26] <G66k> Opinie, i did
[14:27] <compdoc> Chetic, what did you install?
[14:27] <Opinie> G66k, got the required dependencies now?
[14:28] <Chetic> compdoc: everything. I have the same problem if I start vncserver or tightvncserver, but I want to use xrdp
[14:28] <G66k> Opinie, still downloading i hope it's work this time
[14:29] <compdoc> Chetic, I use xrdp and vncserver, but you cant use them with Unity. It doesnt support 2D desktops that are required for rdp or vnc, that I know of
[14:29] <compdoc> Chetic, by the way, that desktop you describe is what you get when the file xstartup isnt correct
[14:31] <Chetic> compdoc: I've set up xstartup in many different ways suggested by google results but to no avail. I can only get i3 working sort of (distorted graphics and still no background)
[14:31] <Funambuli> hiii!!!!  Anyone knows about acpi and its protocols for comunication with the laptop battery chipset?
[14:32] <compdoc> Chetic, I only use Ubuntu of servers. What I do is install Server 14.04, and then the Mate desktop, and then xrdp
[14:32] <compdoc> *on servers
[14:32] <compdoc> I cant get xrdp to work with unity
[14:32] <compdoc> wish I could
[14:33] <daftykins> servers with X *chuckle*
[14:34] <compdoc> daftykins, security risk?
[14:34] <G66k> thanks guys its work :)
[14:35] <Opinie> compdoc, try x11vnc
[14:35] <compdoc> Opinie, you have that working with Unity?
[14:35] <Opinie> yeah
[14:36] <compdoc> you install any alternative desktops, or have to do anything to make it work?
[14:36] <Opinie> the latter, just install it
[14:36] <compdoc> I'll give it a try
[14:37] <Opinie> sorry scanning stuff, can't really type with one hand
[14:39] <rgb-one> G66k: do you have rvm installed?
[14:40] <G66k> rgb-one,  yes i have installed it its fix brother . thanks alot
[14:40] <rgb-one> G66k: :) cool
[14:40] <G66k> rgb-one, i appericiate :D
[14:41] <rgb-one> G66k: :)
[14:47] <pc_> how do i install this?? http://packages.ubuntu.com/vivid/monodevelop
[14:48] <daftykins> are you running vivid?
[14:48] <k1l_> pc_: sudo apt-get install monodevelop
[14:48] <pc_> no im running "utopic"
[14:49] <pc_> i dont know how to install this newer package
[14:49] <daftykins> !info monodevelop utopic
[14:49] <pc_> i want the latest monodevelop
[14:49] <pc_> not 4.0
[14:49] <daftykins> it'd be unwise to mix versions
[14:49] <pc_> ubuntu versions?
[14:49] <daftykins> packages from a newer on an older
[14:50] <pc_> but why, it's just a package
[14:50] <pc_> it should resolve dependencies right??
[14:50] <k1l_> not if it cant resolve them due to utopic doesnt have the versionnumbers requested
[14:51] <pc_> i used to be on opensuse, and there i would just add a new repository and then i could add packages from that. how is it on ubuntu?
[14:51] <daftykins> if you grabbed every .deb and put them on, you'd essentially stick those packages and prevent them from updating
[14:51] <daftykins> you can't do that, it'll try and update everything else
[14:51] <somsip> !ppa | pc_
[14:51] <daftykins> unless you find just a PPA for monodevelop
[14:52] <k1l_> pc_: see if there is a ppa, upgrade to 15.04 beta or wait for 15.04 to be final.
[14:52] <Viqta> you go to the software updater and add the packages that you want pc_
[14:52] <pc_> and vivid is not a ppa?
[14:52] <daftykins> no, it's a whole distro version
[14:52] <pc_> ok, how do i upgrade to vivid?
[14:52] <k1l_> pc_: a ppa means its made working with the utopic versions of the depencies
[14:52] <Viqta> you download it from the page
[14:53] <pc_> i already have ubuntu installed, i just want an upgrade
[14:53] <k1l_> Viqta: no
[14:53] <k1l_> pc_: so you want to upgrade to 15.04 beta?
[14:53] <pc_> yeah
[14:53] <pc_> i need the best software
[14:54] <k1l_> update-manager -d. but be aware that its not final now and bugs can happen
[14:54] <cfhowlett> pc_, "beta" is best?   think hard ...
[14:54] <Viqta> here you go pc_: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VividUpgrades
[14:54] <pc_> can i downgrade if it gets broken?
[14:54] <mcphail> pc_: no
[14:54] <daftykins> bigger number does not mean 'better'
[14:54] <mcphail> pc_: it is a one-way process
[14:55] <pc_> omg that sucks
[14:55] <k1l_> pc_: no. its just a one-way path.
[14:55] <daftykins> pc_: perhaps you don't even need the newer version, maybe you just think you do?
[14:55] <mcphail> pc_: the only way to downgrade is to reinstall
[14:56] <pc_> then i have to use windows for monodevelop
[14:56] <Viqta> use bittorrent sync to back the files and documents for easy transfer and may ease the restoration when you downgrade
[14:56] <Opinie> rsync ftw
[14:56] <daftykins> Viqta: that's totally unnecessary
[14:57] <Viqta> its just a tip. trying to help
[14:57] <cheus> With upstart services, is there a way to disable services from starting on installation
[14:57] <pc_> it does help
[14:58] <G66k> is there anyway to switch ubuntu 14.04 look like 10.04 ?
[14:58] <G66k> there or something
[14:58] <daftykins> yes, get ubuntu MATE
[14:58] <G66k> daftykins,  is it a package ?
[14:58] <k1l_> pc_: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ppas?name_filter=monodevelop
[14:59] <mcphail> daftykins: does that exist for 14.04?
[14:59] <k1l_> pc_: now go and read about PPAs and think about if that is suitable for you.
[15:01] <manjaro_user> how probable is it that if when I as a noob configure a web server and install owncloud on it will have security issues when putting it on the internet?
[15:01] <Opinie> 1.0
[15:02] <manjaro_user> Opinie: so better don't do it if I am not very sure what I am doing?
[15:03] <aelevadoan> hello
[15:03] <Opinie> or don't open it to the webz, and access it via an openvpn server or something?
[15:03] <aelevadoan> would a question about shell access be relevant here?
[15:03] <Pici> aelevadoan: it might be, go for it.
[15:04] <aelevadoan> Pici: http://paste.ubuntu.com/10724516/
[15:04] <aelevadoan> Im trying to do a file backup on my local computer of my vps with a rsync command
[15:04] <aelevadoan> sudo rsync -avHAX --progress --inplace --rsh='ssh -p4444' root@<IP_ADDRESS>:/ .
[15:04] <aelevadoan> but Im having an access problem
[15:04] <philinux> G66k;~ you need to look at this. http://www.webupd8.org/2014/04/how-to-install-and-tweak-gnome.html
[15:05] <aelevadoan> thats a paste of the auth.log
[15:05] <aelevadoan> I have root login enabled
[15:05] <k1l_> aelevadoan: are you sure the root login is a good idea?
[15:05] <aelevadoan> k1l_: the thing is that I need special permissions to copy some of the files
[15:06] <aelevadoan> right?
[15:06] <aelevadoan> my objective here is to backup vps files on my computer
[15:06] <Opinie> root is pretty special already
[15:06] <k1l_> depends on the files
[15:07] <aelevadoan> I want to copy /etc files
[15:07] <aelevadoan> /var/www
[15:07] <aelevadoan> and home directories
[15:07] <chotaz`work> Why does whenever I click on a downloaded file on google chrome, it redownloads the file instead of opening it?
[15:09] <k1l_> aelevadoan: see http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1773227
[15:10] <Jakey2> how do i remote desktop from one ubuntu to another one
[15:10] <cfhowlett> Jakey2, ssh
[15:10] <cfhowlett> !ssh | Jake
[15:10] <Jakey2> cfhowlett, i want a gui
[15:10] <Opinie> vnc
[15:10] <Jakey2> i have ubuntu server 14.04
[15:11] <Jakey2> i installed lxde how do i vnc into it
[15:11] <cfhowlett> jakey wait what?  server doesn't have a gui
[15:11] <cfhowlett> oh, nvmnd
[15:11] <m1dnight_> guys, i'm trying to allow a single user to only sftp into my remote machine with a password
[15:11] <m1dnight_> so far I have added Match User sftpuser PasswordAuthentication=yes
[15:12] <m1dnight_> which works, but from when I add ChrootDirectory %h to the Match, i can no longer log in using that user
[15:12] <m1dnight_> can somebody help me?
[15:12] <m1dnight_> (so atm i want to allow ssh via pw login and chroot the home directory, but the latter does not work yet)
[15:12] <rgb-one> chotaz`work: I think because nautilus hasn't been set to open files from google-chrome
[15:13] <chotaz`work> rgb-one, I have caja as I'm on UbuntuMATE, but how would I accomplish such thing in nautiles?
[15:16]  * Jake grumbles at cfhowlett
[15:17] <cfhowlett> Jake, sorry.  fat finger tourettes.  the msg was intended for jakey2 ...
[15:18] <rgb-one> chotaz`work: The idea here is to open the downloaded file with the default application on your system, eg. a pdf with evince, a .doc file with libreoffice etc.
[15:19] <chotaz`work> rgb-one, every file type I try to open from chrome gets redownloaded and the same does not happen in firefox
[15:19] <rgb-one> chotaz`work: yea
[15:20] <cfhowlett> chotaz, you have to edit your chrome settings
[15:21] <rgb-one> chotaz`work: The file associations for chrome need to be changed
[15:22] <rgb-one> chotaz`work: it seems chrome has priority in opening files over all other programs installed on the system
[15:24] <Goodbar> Folks, I'm having a serious problem with chroot and trying to unmount /proc after I'm done with the chroot. May I have your attention?
[15:25] <jhutchins> Goodbar: 1) Do not ask #debian for Ubuntu support, what fixes Debian can break Ubuntu, they are different distributions.  2) What problem?
[15:25] <jhutchins> Goodbar: What did you try to do?  How did you try to do it?  What did you expect to happen?  What happened instead?
[15:26] <rgb-one> chotaz`work: do you have xdg-open installed?
[15:28] <jhutchins> Goodbar: In channel please.
[15:28] <chotaz`work> rgb-one, cfhowlett : There is no file-type associations options in Chrome. And my files open normally from the file manager or from Firefox's "download manager". I'm not the most fluent on Linux/Ubuntu or Web Browsers, but I'm not making much sense out of this :\
[15:28] <chotaz`work> rgb-one, Not right now, but I'll take a look.
[15:29] <jhutchins> Goodbar: Generally for a chroot you should mount the special filesystems like /proc from the real root, then chroot, then exit, then unmount.
[15:31] <chotaz`work> I'll try a google related channel, as my problems seems to be with chrome specifically.
[15:31] <DemHydraz> chotaz`work, then use firefox.
[15:33] <chotaz`work> DemHydraz, I intend on changing since they are completely dropping NPAPI support, but I'm puzzled by trivial things I don't understand, and this has not happened to me before.
[15:34] <cfhowlett> chotaz, chrome settings has file associations somewhere, I don't use it though.
[15:34] <rgb-one> chotaz`work: right click on a file and go to 'Open with...' do you see chrome at the top? if so that is the problem.
[15:36] <chotaz`work> rgb-one, that is not the case at all. As i've stated, files open where they should when I open them from the file manager or other file handling applications. My problem is SPECIFICALLY when opening files from within chrome.
[15:36] <chotaz`work> cfhowlett, I'll take a closer look then, might have missed it.
[15:36] <cfhowlett> chotaz`work, confirm:  chrome NOT chromium?
[15:36] <researcher1> Can anybody help understand this http://paste.ubuntu.com/10724699/
[15:37] <chotaz`work> cfhowlett, Yes, chrome.
[15:37] <cfhowlett> researcher1, vbox 2.2   ... very old and I'm sure no longer supported.  what version of ubuntu do you have there???
[15:39] <researcher1> cfhowlett: I got ubuntu 14.04
[15:39] <cfhowlett> researcher1, don't know how you have such an old virtualbox ...
[15:40] <researcher1> cfhowlett: hopw do I get latest?
[15:40] <OEP> researcher1: I think you are missing a linux-headers package
[15:40] <k1l_> researcher1: what gives "uname -a"?
[15:43] <JunkHunk> hello I need a -default kernel for my mono libraries work well how would I switch from a -generic to a -default kernel? using Kubuntu14.04
[15:43] <researcher1> k1l_: uname -a gives this Linux taran-G41T-M7 3.13.0-48-generic #80-Ubuntu SMP Thu Mar 12 11:16:18 UTC 2015 i686 i686 i686 GNU/Linux
[15:44] <k1l_> researcher1: where is that error log from?
[15:45] <skinux> I seem to be having a problem with AppArmor permissions
[15:45] <k1l_> researcher1: so that is the guestOS is a ubuntu 14.04. what is the host OS?
[15:45] <skinux> I created /WebProjects, with same permissions as would be used under /var/www, but Apache is being denied access
[15:45] <researcher1> k1l_: I downloaded VBoxGuestAdditions_2.2.0 n tried to install then I got the log
[15:45] <iconic1> Lost my eg
[15:46] <k1l_> researcher1: why dont you use the guest additions that come with the virtualbox that is actually used?
[15:46] <k1l_> iconic1: please stick to technical ubuntu support in here
[15:46] <researcher1> k1l_: I tried but it failed
[15:46] <k1l_> researcher1: what host OS? what virtualbox version?
[15:47] <researcher1> version 4.3.10
[15:47] <rgb-one> skinux: did you edit the apache conf to specify WebProjects as the user directory?
[15:47] <iconic1> oops truely sorry didnt realize what chan I was in
[15:47] <researcher1> host OS Ubuntu 14.04
[15:47] <skinux> Yes
[15:48] <k1l_> researcher1: guest and host is 14.04?
[15:48] <chotaz`work> Ok, I've given up on chrome all around.
[15:48] <rgb-one> skinux: restart the server
[15:49] <chotaz`work> Anyone has any experiencing in using YNAB.com app on ubuntu? maybe through wine or something
[15:49] <researcher1> k1l_: On ubuntu 14.04 I install VBOX and retaed WIndows XP
[15:49] <skinux> I already tried that
[15:49] <k1l_> researcher1: please use the build in guest additions from the virtualbox you actually use.
[15:49] <Jakey2> i installed lxde on my ubuntu server using tasksel
[15:49] <k1l_> researcher1: what?
[15:49] <researcher1> k1l_: tried but it dd not work
[15:49] <cfhowlett> xp XP???
[15:49] <Jakey2> i now get an error on load saying
[15:49] <k1l_> researcher1: you dont install the guest additions into the host os
[15:50] <researcher1> k1l_: what do I do now
[15:50] <Jakey2> x session not found falling back on default session and then it locks up
[15:50] <k1l_> researcher1: the guest additions are for the guest. so install them into the OS you installed in vbox
[15:50] <Jakey2> any ideas
[15:51] <chotaz`work> Jakey2, try pressing return less oftenly, so your problem is easier to track down :)
[15:51] <Jakey2> ok
[15:51] <rgb-one> skinux: add WebProjects to your home directory
[15:51] <rgb-one> skinux: var/www is restricted to normal users
[15:51] <rgb-one> skinux: sudo privileges are required
[15:52] <rgb-one> skinux: restricted from normal user access*
[15:53] <Jakey2> what is the best way to install lxde on ubuntu server 14.04
[15:53] <freshmint> hey, i have problem in vlc playback after an update probably audio/video codecs got ruined...
[15:53] <freshmint> any idea about that
[15:53] <cfhowlett> Jakey2, sudo apt-get install lxde
[15:54] <Viqta> freshmint: install the codecs from the software centre
[15:54] <researcher1> Thanks it worked with this version http://dlc-cdn.sun.com/virtualbox/4.3.26/VBoxGuestAdditions_4.3.26.iso
[15:54] <freshmint> Viqta, they were installed actually - did apt uninstall them with the latest update?
[15:55] <rgb-one> skinux: by setting the permissions of WebProjects to the same as var/www, which requires root access, you will never have access to the content of WebProjects without using sudo
[15:55] <chotaz`work> skinux, by default, in Ubuntu, apache is forbidden to work outside /var/www
[15:56] <rgb-one> chotaz`work: A local directory in home/www can be used
[15:56] <Jakey2> decent image bin i can post an image to
[15:56] <Jakey2> ?