[05:58] <tbwnoob> whats up
[05:58] <HedgeMage> hi tbwnoob
[05:58] <tbwnoob> i got eduububto and i cant get past the password
[05:59] <tbwnoob> v 7.1
[05:59] <tbwnoob> does anyone know how to login
[06:00] <tbwnoob> ?
[06:00] <HedgeMage> Well, you set the password when you installed it, didn't you?
[06:00] <tbwnoob> its live
[06:00] <tbwnoob> when i boot from cd
[06:01] <tbwnoob> it has a username and password
[06:01] <HedgeMage> ahh
[06:01] <tbwnoob> yea whats up with that
[06:01] <HedgeMage> I honestly don't know, I have not used the livecd
[06:02] <tbwnoob> how did you install it then
[06:05] <tbwnoob> well can somone help me with this password problem
[06:06] <tbwnoob> where are passwors stored on the cd
[06:07] <HedgeMage> tbwnoob:  they aren't stored in plaintext
[06:08] <tbwnoob> okay
[06:08] <tbwnoob> so is the any default passes
[06:09] <HedgeMage> tbwnoob:  did you try looking on ubuntu.org?
[06:09] <tbwnoob> yea
[06:09] <tbwnoob> they gave me this irc channel
[06:10] <HedgeMage> heh
[06:10] <HedgeMage> unfortunately, everyone seems to be sleeping
[06:10] <tbwnoob> ok
[06:10] <HedgeMage> hang on let me poke around
[06:10] <tbwnoob> ok
[06:11] <HedgeMage> I'll be slow, though, I am lecturing in drupal chat a bit
[06:12] <tbwnoob> ok
[06:17] <tbwnoob> sudo -i
[06:17] <tbwnoob> ?
[06:17] <tbwnoob> in the username
[06:17] <HedgeMage> tbwnoob:  you should have googled "edubuntu live cd password"
[06:18] <tbwnoob> i did
[06:18] <tbwnoob> i got sudo -i
[06:18] <HedgeMage> tbwnoob:  second result says username ubuntu password blank
[06:19] <tbwnoob> i tried that
[06:19] <HedgeMage> really?
[06:19] <HedgeMage> hrm...
[06:19] <HedgeMage> *sigh*
[06:19] <HedgeMage> edubuntu and blank password maybe?
[06:19] <HedgeMage> you'd think they'd make it autologin like the ubuntu one
[06:19] <tbwnoob> tried it
[06:20] <tbwnoob> didnt work
[06:20] <tbwnoob> sudo password root
[06:20] <tbwnoob> or sudo -i
[06:20] <tbwnoob> brb
[06:20] <HedgeMage> right but you can't use sudo unless you are logged in
[16:52] <Nubae> does anyone know if the XO one laptop per child could run as a thin terminal client?
[16:54] <highvoltage> Nubae: well, it runs linuxbios, so I guess it would support etherboot
[16:54] <highvoltage> Nubae: but why would you want to?
[16:56] <Nubae> well, for one because sugar is not really ready yet
[16:56] <Nubae> and 2 because distributing content is the main aim right now various programs
[16:57] <highvoltage> personally, I would rather use a classmate PC if you want to use it for a very mobile thin client
[16:57] <Nubae> I am looking at a volunteer position in Nepal, a pilot project with teh XO
[16:57] <highvoltage> it has nicer hardware.
[16:57] <highvoltage> aah.
[16:57] <Nubae> government already has 200 laptops
[16:57] <highvoltage> great!
[16:57] <Nubae> and I was thinking of how to apply my ltsp knowledge
[16:57] <Nubae> :-)
[16:58] <Nubae> the main problem they currently have is lack of content
[16:58] <Nubae> anyway, the XO lacks an rj45 network port so...
[16:59] <highvoltage> ouch, I didn't realise that.
[17:00] <Nubae> yeah relies entirely on mesh networking
[17:00] <highvoltage> do you plan to use any of the default system on the machines?
[17:01] <Nubae> well, at the moment the ui isn't ready, but the pilot project has started, they want me to concentrate on distributing content from servers
[17:01] <highvoltage> hmm, I thought you could perhaps put the LTSP system on the machines (on flash), and connect to the server via wireless, but LTSP over wi-fi is a bit too slow :-/
[17:01] <Nubae> ie, squid, content filtering, web based moodle like distribution
[17:02] <highvoltage> Nubae: how much ram does that olpc have again?
[17:02] <Nubae> well, maybe not if its all adhoc
[17:02] <Nubae> 256, quite a lot
[17:02] <highvoltage> Nubae: ogra_cmpc has a nice scaled down edubuntu image for the classmate pc, maybe that could be modified for the olpc
[17:02] <highvoltage> cmpc also has just below 256MB RAM.
[17:03] <Nubae> I have a small xubuntu image too, that works very fast
[17:03] <Nubae> but edubuntu has the contnet, that's what interests them right now
[17:03] <highvoltage> nice. Xubuntu works nicely in schools, but it has to be locked down. I ran Xubuntu in >200 schools too.
[17:04] <highvoltage> what content specifically?
[17:04] <Nubae> curriculum based stuff (science, geogrpahy, maths, english, etc.)
[17:05] <Nubae> gcompris alone puts the current XO content to shame
[17:05] <highvoltage> hmm, so why not just include gcompris in your xubuntu image?
[17:05] <Nubae> anyway, I have a meeting with them tomorrow and wanted to mention ltsp and its benefits
[17:06] <Nubae> that I've done, but not sure if teh XO can do it...
[17:07] <highvoltage> yeah
[17:07] <highvoltage> well I hope it goes well.
[17:08] <Nubae> yeah thanks, the XO is cool at least in spirit
[17:08] <highvoltage> yes, I think once the UI evolves to the point it is intended to be, and they do some slight hardware upgrades, then it would rock.
[17:09] <highvoltage> I think the current cpu is a bit too basic for big python apps and such. gnome-app-install crashes if you have universe enabled with only 256MB ram
[17:09] <highvoltage> so slightly more ram wouldn't hurt either.
[17:09] <Nubae> maybe low fat will work better due to wireless
[17:12]  * Nubae wonders if ltsp could distribute through a mesh
[17:14] <highvoltage> Nubae: hope this doesn't overshadow the sugar development: http://www.olpcnews.com/software/windows/xp_on_the_xo_in_60_days.html
[17:15] <Nubae> yeah, people aren't too happy about that
[17:15] <Nubae> in any case, the focus is on open source and open content, would be crazy to put XP on it
[17:16] <Nubae> not to mention power consumption
[17:20] <Nubae> anyway ubuntu has been ported to it too, as an image
[17:21] <Nubae> they say it runs more smoothly than sugar
[17:26] <Nubae> gah... http://radian.org/notebook/paradox-of-choice
[17:56] <highvoltage> RichEd, on a Sunday night!?
[19:08] <arkaniad> Hello
[19:09] <arkaniad> i found out something while installing Edubuntu 7.10
[19:09] <arkaniad> well, i had ubuntu 7.10 installed and at my house i have a router and a wireless usb adapter
[19:10] <arkaniad> in ubuntu 7.10 i was sure i config'd it right but it didnt work
[19:10] <arkaniad> now, i am running edubuntu, and it works and i set it up like on ubuntu
[19:11] <arkaniad> any conclusions?
[19:20] <Methlogic> can anyone help me? i install... i partitioned my disk and rebooted i got to the install screen hit ok then it goes to CMD prompt and says everything is ok... then my screen turns green and fades slowly....
[19:21] <Methlogic> anyone else have this problem?
[19:30] <lulemurfan> does ms virtaul pc like edubuntu? , coz it just keeps stopping when installing
[19:31] <johnny> lulemurfan, try virtualbox
[19:32] <lulemurfan> whats that?
[19:33]  * lulemurfan slaps lulemurfan with a Guppy Fish
[19:37] <johnny> guess :)
[19:37] <johnny> you're attempting to use virtualpc already, so you should have an idea :)
[19:37] <johnny> virtualbox is free to use, and seems to run linux well
[19:38] <lulemurfan> oh right
[19:38] <johnny> i have no idea why or why not virtual pc gives issues
[19:38] <johnny> since i've never seen it in real life
[19:38] <johnny> but virtualbox is supposed to work nicely in both windows and linux
[19:38] <lulemurfan> ok i'll try that
[19:38] <johnny> to run either mac or linux :)
[19:38] <johnny> and windows
[19:39] <johnny> sorry, got it backwards, it runs in mac/linux/windows to run either windows or linux
[19:39] <johnny> it can prolly run osx with hackery, but i don't know anything about it..
[19:39] <lulemurfan> all it want it to do is run linux on window
[19:40] <johnny> try virtualbox
[19:40] <johnny> :)
[23:36] <tbwnoob> hey guys
[23:36] <tbwnoob> does anyone know why my cpu fan would be shutting dow at startup and make my computer overheat
[23:38] <tbwnoob> ?
[23:52] <shawn__> okay
[23:52] <shawn__> i guess there was a small wire blocking my fan
[23:52] <shawn__> i unplugged it moved some wires and now it stays on'
[23:52] <shawn__> anyone here?
[23:59] <johnny> try #ubuntu
[23:59] <johnny> 99% of questions that apply to edubuntu also apply to ubuntu, since it is mostly the same , except the education apps


[00:07] <daniel304> yes
[00:12] <daniel304> there is no juddering on any other settings except 720 and 1080!!
[00:29] <daniel304> html5 version judders and flickers black screen
[00:29] <daniel304> while playing video
[01:07] <qwebirc82196> should the mythbuntu-desktop package have dependencies on mysql mythtv-backend mythtv-database, etc
[01:13] <qwebirc82196> according to packages.ubuntu.com and apt-cache is should not, but when i try to install mythbuntu-desktop apt wants to install all of these extra packages
[01:15] <qwebirc82196> im actually pretty stuck, because when I installed xserver-xorg-dev it removed mythbuntu-desktop as a conflict. I was hoping i could reinstall it afterwards, but the machine is only supposed to be a fronted so I dont want all of the backend packages
[01:47] <daniel304> still got juddery you tube videos! anyone know how to stop HD videos from stuttering? need to know as i don't want live tv to have the same problem when i buy my tuner card!
[08:09] <qwebirc13137> Hi All - does anyone have some experience with upnp on myth ?
[08:12] <qwebirc13137> not everyone at once !  :-)
[21:37] <qwebirc67285> hello
[21:37] <qwebirc67285> anybody out there?
[23:52] <Seeker> qwebirc67285: yup


[18:18] <japa> Hey so I've gotten my Ubuntu budgie installed (loving so far) can I get some info about the config files and their location
[18:56] <fossfreedom> japa, dconf-editor / gsettings
[18:57] <fossfreedom> budgie uses dconf more most of its config
[18:57] <japa> Thanks


[07:46] <andrejz> morning
[07:47] <andrejz> dpm do you know what is the agenda for ubuntu translations meeting on thursday?
[08:18] <dpm> good morning everyone
[08:18] <dpm> hey andrejz
[08:19] <dpm> re: the meeting, there isn't any scheduled. You've probably seen in on the Fridge calendar, because I did not remove them from there. We used to run them a couple of cycles ago. I'd be happy to start them again, but not this Thursday (it's Bank Holiday here and I won't be online)
[08:20] <andrejz> Yes, i saw it on the fridge but not anywhere else, so i didn't know what it was about
[11:04] <dpm> hey andrejz, are you still around?
[11:04] <andrejz> always :)
[11:04] <dpm> hehe, cool :)
[11:06] <andrejz> is there any reason you are asking ?
[11:07] <dpm> andrejz, I've just read your post on the year review for the Slovenian translation team. Apart from the fact that I think it's excellent (not only for the content but also for the amazing work the team has been doing), I believe it would be a great article for the first translation story. As such, I'd like to publish it on ubuntu-news.org. Do you have a picture of your team or anything related to Slovenian translations to accompany the article?
[11:08] <andrejz> unfortunately i only have low quality photo from my cell phone, which is quite fuzzy. But we plan to meet on translation beer sometime next week and i could take some photos then
[11:10] <andrejz> but yes, it's been a heck of a year :)
[11:12] <dpm> andrejz, yeah, fotos would be cool for the next article on translation beers :) For now, I think I'll republish it on ubuntu-news as it is. The nice graphics will do instead of pictures
[11:13] <andrejz> I can take a screenshot of slovenian ubuntu dekstop or something
[11:16] <dpm> andrejz, ah, that'd be cool, too
[11:30] <andrejz> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1450316/Workspace%201_002.png
[11:31] <andrejz> is it ok?
[12:07] <dpm> andrejz, sorry for the delay in replying, got sidetracked with something else. It looks good, thanks. However, I'm not sure I can use it, since when scaling it down for the article the text becomes unreadable. I'm not sure there is much we can do, though, but I think for this time it's ok to publish it without picture, as you've put the graphics in there, which look good already
[12:07] <dpm> hi kelemengabor, happy new year :)
[12:07] <andrejz> ok, good
[12:07] <andrejz> happy new year from me too, kelemengabor
[12:07] <andrejz> :)
[12:42] <dpm> andrejz, published: http://ubuntu-news.org/2011/01/04/translations-stories-year-2010-in-review-for-the-slovenian-translation-team/ - good work!
[12:43] <dpm> Everyone: feel free to tweet/dent!
[12:50] <andrejz> looks great :)
[12:50] <dpm> cool :)
[12:52] <andrejz> it really makes sense to do a review, because only then you realise how much has (or has not) been done
[13:40] <dpm> yeah
[14:09] <andrejz> maybe translation teams should be encouraged to do that (write reviews). I think it's really helpful
[14:25] <dpm> andrejz, yeah, that's what I'm trying to do with the stories as well, but it is slowly picking up, as there are not many people that have signed up yet
[14:25] <dpm> in any case, I've just added "Reviews" as an idea to write about to
[14:25] <dpm>     https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Translations/Stories
[14:27] <andrejz> well it's always a question of time. it takes quite a bit of time to write something. and people are always very busy
[14:28] <dpm> yeah, I'm glad we've got the first story, and some people haven't put down the name on that page but have told me they're working on a story, which is great :)


[08:00] <dholbach> good morning
[08:01] <dholbach> HAPPY HUG DAY!
[08:01] <dholbach> salut jibel
[08:02] <dholbach> comment ça va?
[08:02] <jibel> guten tag dholbach
[08:02] <dholbach> :)
[08:02] <jibel> ca va et toi ?
[08:02] <dholbach> un peu fatiguée mais ca va :)
[08:03] <dholbach> fatigué
[08:03] <vish> dholbach: how many languages do you know? :)
[08:03] <dholbach> jibel: ca va bien, c'est 'UG DAY aujourd'hui :)
[08:04] <dholbach> vish: not enough :)
[08:04] <yofel> morgen ^^
[08:04] <dholbach> vish: I'm sure you speak more than I do :)
[08:04] <jibel> without the 'e' is better for a man :)
[08:04] <dholbach> Indians all speak more languages than anybody else
[08:04]  * vish parle un peu de francais ;)
[08:04] <dholbach> jibel: yeah, it took me a bit to realise :)
[08:06] <yofel> dholbach: your merge on bug 586790 still being looked at?
[08:06] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 586790 in software-properties (Ubuntu) "Typo in --help of apt-add-repository (affects: 2) (heat: 12)" [Low,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/586790
[08:07] <dholbach> yofel: I'll pester mvo
[08:07] <dholbach> once he's up
[08:07] <yofel> ok
[08:07] <dholbach> what a slacker!
[08:07] <yofel> more like, shouldn't that be merged into lp:software-properties not lp:ubuntu/software-properties ?
[08:08] <dholbach> yofel: software-properties is probably a special case
[08:09] <dholbach> I was demo'ing the general approach of getting something into Ubuntu
[08:09] <dholbach> getting the fix upstream is a different story
[08:09] <dholbach> but yeah, I agree
[08:09] <yofel> ah ok
[08:13]  * dholbach starts doing a bit of sponsoring, will join you for some patch review in a bit
[08:56] <dholbach> "LP will go down for maintenace in 30 seconds."
[08:56] <dholbach> :-(
[09:02] <vish> argh! great day for lp maintainance! we have feature freeze as well today :(
[09:02] <dholbach> yep, good timing
[09:02] <dholbach> hey seb128
[09:02] <seb128> hey dholbach
[09:03] <dholbach> seb128: thanks for getting the gdm fix in
[09:03] <dholbach> awesome
[09:03] <seb128> dholbach, yw
[09:03] <dholbach> seb128: merci beaucoup mon vieux ami :-P
[09:04] <seb128> de rien mon jeune ami !
[09:05] <dholbach> haha
[09:05] <dholbach> I'm older than you!
[09:06] <seb128> you call me old so ... ;-)
[11:00] <dholbach> OK! The HUG DAY is back! :)
[11:00] <dholbach> yoohoo!
[12:30] <dholbach> how's the reviews coming on?
[12:55] <dholbach> Packaging Training Session: Patch Review and Operation Cleansweep in #ubuntu-classroom in 5 minutes
[13:24] <pedro_> see dholbach
[13:25] <dholbach> haha pedro_
[13:25] <dholbach> pedro_: we just had a session in #ubuntu-classroom about the patch reviewers process
[13:26] <dholbach> and will now work on a few examples together
[13:26] <dholbach> I'm sure we'll have a bunch of questions for you in a bit :)
[13:26] <pedro_> dholbach, cool! is the log available somewhere?
[13:26] <pedro_> dholbach, so we can link it on the hug day page ;-)
[13:27] <dholbach> pedro_: not yet, but I'll give you the link once the session is done and the log available
[13:27] <pedro_> dholbach, ok, thanks!
[13:28] <pedro_> reboot, brb
[13:38] <norax> dholbach : are you choosing a bug? or are we finished?. "thanks for the questions" seems for me like we are finished, and I would like to see an example.
[13:40] <dholbach> oh ok
[13:40] <dholbach> I just did https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/sabayon/+bug/595608
[13:40] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 595608 in sabayon (Ubuntu) "Sabayon-apply fails on mozilla_bookmarks (affects: 2) (heat: 12)" [Undecided,Fix released]
[13:40] <dholbach> with a bit of investigation I found that it was fixed already
[13:40] <dholbach> one I did before was https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/debian/+source/python-mysqldb/+bug/588859
[13:40] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 588859 in python-mysqldb (Debian) (and 2 other projects) "python-mysqldb silently drops exceptions on deadlocks (affects: 1) (heat: 8)" [Unknown,Unknown]
[13:41] <dholbach> (the person had forwarded the patches to debian and upstream already
[13:41] <dholbach> )
[13:41] <dholbach> so I added the upstream/debian bugs to the bug's tasks and added the tags
[13:41] <dholbach> also if you check out https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ReviewersTeam/ReviewGuide#Examples there's a couple more examples
[13:42] <dholbach> I thought we'd now all go and try to work on bugs/patches individually and bring up questions as soon as we have them
[14:00] <dholbach> which patches/bugs are you currently looking at? anyone ran into problems already?
[14:02] <devildante> I'd like to add that if you did an ubuntu-sponsors merge request, there is no need to subscribe them to the bug
[14:02] <dholbach> devildante: hm?
[14:02] <devildante> (talking by experience :p)
[14:02] <dholbach> ah yes
[14:04] <yofel> hm, we don't have an example for a merge request in the Examples. I did bug 601127 yesterday, but there I had to patch the patch
[14:04] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 601127 in update-manager (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "don't hide treeview and notebook when some package is available but not installable (affects: 1) (heat: 12)" [Low,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/601127
[14:04] <yofel> someone got a cleaner one?
[14:05] <dholbach> pedro_: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Packaging/Training/Logs/2010-08-12
[14:05] <dholbach> yofel: if you find one, can you add it to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ReviewersTeam/ReviewGuide#Examples ?
[14:05] <pedro_> dholbach, thanks! linking it right now
[14:06] <yofel> sure
[14:06] <dholbach> yeeeeeeehaw
[14:06] <dholbach> awesome
[14:06] <dholbach> I got a few of them off the list already
[14:07] <dholbach> looking forward to see http://qa.ubuntu.com/reports/patches/ later on
[14:09] <kamusin> glad to see you here devildante :)
[14:12] <devildante> kamusin: hi :)
[14:13] <kamusin> hey devildante how are things today with the hugday?
[14:13] <devildante> kamusin: not very well, still busy with my addons branch
[14:16] <dholbach> how are you guys getting on?
[14:16] <devildante> kamusin: but I think my work of yesterday is enough to compensate :p
[14:17] <kamusin> heh
[14:33] <dholbach> how are we doing in terms of reviewing bugs/patches? :)
[14:35] <dholbach> I should've made a note where we started today :)
[14:36] <dholbach> pedro_: could it be that bugs.g.o is very slow?
[14:39] <dholbach> pedro_: what is the bugzilla component for mobile-broadband-provider-info?
[14:40] <dholbach> modem-manager found it
[14:40] <dholbach> thanks
[14:40] <dholbach> :)
[14:41] <pedro_> dholbach, bugzilla is slow for you? it's working fine here
[14:41] <dholbach> it's better now
[14:42] <dholbach> pedro_: how can I add https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=626731 to https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/mobile-broadband-provider-info/+bug/447380 ?
[14:42] <ubot4> Gnome bug 626731 in ModemManager "Support for Croatian Academic and Research NETwork" [Normal,Unconfirmed]
[14:42] <pedro_> looking
[14:45] <pedro_> i see, since the project is already registered in launchpad as upstream lp doesn't allows you to add the upstream link
[14:45]  * pedro_ kicks lp
[14:46] <dholbach> oh ok
[14:46] <pedro_> let me try something , one sec
[14:49] <pedro_> dholbach, looks like the only solution is to reject that upstream tasks for mobile-broadband-provider-info, open one for NM and put the link there...
[14:49] <pedro_> lp fault
[14:53] <dholbach> yeah, whatever :)
[14:54] <pedro_> would be great to have a link here to create those: https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/447380/+watch/79578
[14:54] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 447380 in mobile-broadband-provider-info (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "Support for Croatian Academic and Research NETwork (affects: 1) (heat: 8)" [Undecided,New]
[14:54] <pedro_> "There are currently no links to this bug watch" I'd love to have a "create one" button there...
[14:54] <dholbach> yeah
[15:00] <ara> dholbach, where did you upload the logs of the session you just gave?
[15:01] <dholbach> ara: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Packaging/Training/Logs/2010-08-12
[15:01] <pedro_> ara,  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Packaging/Training/Logs/2010-08-12
[15:01] <dholbach> HA! QUICKER! :)
[15:01] <pedro_> high five!
[15:01]  * dholbach hugs pedro_
[15:01]  * pedro_ hugs dholbach back
[15:02] <dholbach> pedro_: ¡COGE EL AVE!
[15:02] <pedro_> lol!
[15:02] <dholbach> it doesn't get old :)
[15:02] <ara> :D
[15:04] <dholbach> 1501!
[15:22] <dholbach> 1499!
[15:46] <dholbach> 1494!
[15:59] <dholbach> 1492!
[15:59] <dholbach> awesome
[15:59]  * dholbach hugs you all
[16:18] <devildante> guys, bug 600989 is for a bug that doesn't have an upstream bug tracker. should I seek Ubuntu sponsorship?
[16:18] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 600989 in multimon (Ubuntu) "Wrong sox syntax in gen.c (output) (affects: 1) (heat: 90)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/600989
[16:21] <devildante> for a package*
[16:36] <simar__mohaar> devildante: what to do for todays hug day. I hope to involve too ..
[16:36] <yofel> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBugDay/20100812
[16:36] <devildante> follow this for each bug: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ReviewersTeam/ReviewGuide#Workflow
[16:38] <simar__mohaar> yofel: devildante thanks, I see myself as a potential contributer here. :))
[17:20] <devildante> how can we know progress of operation cleansweep?
[17:24] <elopio> devildante: there's a plot here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBugDay/20100812
[17:25] <devildante> thank you, elopio :)
[18:58] <norax> Hi. I have a patch that is included in a release in debian unstable but not in testing (and not in maverick). I have added the tag patch-accepted-debian, but do I have to do anything more? I mean, the bug is still New, do I have to change to fix commited or something like that?
[19:07] <nigelb> norax: which app?
[19:10] <norax> nigelb: its pmccabe. In unstable is in 2.6 but we have 2.5 in maverick.
[19:11] <nigelb> norax: you can request an ffe.
[19:11] <norax> nigelb: Whats an ffe?
[19:11] <nigelb> !ffe
[19:11] <ubot4> Feature Freeze Exception. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FreezeExceptionProcess for the freeze exception process.
[19:11] <nigelb> sorry about the jargon
[19:12] <norax> No problem. Thanks.
[19:12] <nigelb> oh, ugh, that might require a merge and not a sync though
[19:13] <nigelb> ok, just a sync would do!
[19:20] <norax> It is a sync. But  I do not know if it worths. It is not a critical package and if it is not in testing I assume that it is not testing enough
[19:31] <nigelb> norax: its not in testing because I think debian is frozen now.
[19:32] <norax> nigelb: Thanks. I think I am going to request an FFE. Let's see what happens
[19:33] <nigelb> norax: And I just confirmed from maco that debian is indeed in freeze :)
[19:34] <norax> nigelb: then should I ask an FFE also for debian?
[19:35] <nigelb> Don't think so.
[19:35] <nigelb> It was their final freeze I think.
[20:17] <norax> I have request an FFE: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pmccabe/+bug/616977 but I do not know, maybe it is too much work (not just mine, but the ubuntu release team, and later the sponsor team) for something that will be automatically repaired in 11.04.
[20:17] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 616977 in pmccabe (Ubuntu) "ask for an FFE syncing from debian unstable (affects: 1) (heat: 8)" [Undecided,New]
[20:45] <rsajdok> Do I understand. Forward to debian-upstream is to run program: submittodebian ?
[21:01] <norax> submittodebian sends an email from your account that creates a bug in their track system, so I think that you are right, debian-upstream is to run this program.
[21:51] <rsajdok> norax: It would be good if someone confirm this
[22:14] <norax> nigelb: It seems that as the update is bug fix only, no FFe is required.
[23:25] <yofel> rsajdok: yes submittodebian would be the easiest way, esp. if you already packaged the patch to test it
[23:28] <yofel> about bug 613407 - it's adding a check to not make dkms fail if a config file doesn't exist, but the config file is actually installed by the dkms package so should never be missing unless deleted, does that even make sense to fix?
[23:28] <ubot4`> Launchpad bug 613407 in dkms (Ubuntu) "/etc/kernel/header_postinst.d/dkms exited with return code 2 (affects: 2) (dups: 1) (heat: 494)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/613407


[09:01] <SuperMatt> huh, I'm liking opensuse factory
[09:14] <brobostigon> morning boys and girls.
[09:14] <popey> yo
[09:14] <brobostigon> morning popey
[09:17]  * brobostigon had a date, with his former finace last night.
[09:17] <brobostigon> fiance*
[10:27] <foobarry> how did it go?
[10:27] <foobarry> also brobostigon , have you noticed battery life is worse using 4g/LTE?
[10:35] <brobostigon> with weak signal, yes,
[10:35] <brobostigon> it went well, ty.
[10:37] <brobostigon> ST:FC 1pm film4, :)
[10:40] <foobarry> went for a drink/dinner?
[10:40] <foobarry> my wife says she loves ST;fc
[10:40] <foobarry> haven't watched it ever
[10:43] <brobostigon> dinner, then cinema.
[10:44] <foobarry> i rescanned my freeview box, now i lost the descriptions of the programmes i already recorded :(
[10:46] <brobostigon> :(
[11:44] <Azelphur> so, I got a leap motion
[11:44] <Azelphur> now what xD
[11:52] <Myrtti> yeah, we've got one too
[11:52] <Myrtti> no idea what to do with it
[11:53] <Azelphur> I installed desktopleapr, which is kinda cool if not buggy.
[12:00] <mapps> hm
[12:00] <mapps> still dont know when my lflight is..just between 17 and 21st
[12:00] <mapps> annoying
[12:01] <mapps> also annoying i broke my samsung laptop when trying to fix it
[12:03] <Azelphur> :<
[12:04] <Myrtti> I'm trying to make a wedsite.
[12:04] <Myrtti> it sucks.
[12:08] <mapps> yes
[12:08] <mapps> i broke my damn mobo on my rv520
[12:08] <mapps> when trying to desolder part of it
[12:08] <mapps> :(
[12:10] <penguin42> what were you trying to desolder?
[12:10] <penguin42> power connector?
[12:11] <mapps> yep
[12:11] <mapps> :(
[12:11]  * penguin42 bets people who know what they're doing can fix those
[12:26] <Azelphur> This is fairly hilarious, bukkit, the minecraft library got DMCA'd, I got banned for telling them it was going to happen a couple years ago
[12:27] <Azelphur> now fairly popular people are quoting me, saying I was right \o/
[12:29] <Myrtti> I thought mojang bought it or something
[12:29] <MartijnV1S> that's what several Mojangers said on twitter a week ago?
[12:29] <Azelphur> yea, it has been DCMA'd now, I guess one of the developers didn't like that it was bought out / shutting down
[12:44] <ali1234> link?
[12:44] <Azelphur> ali1234: https://github.com/Bukkit/CraftBukkit ?
[12:45] <ali1234> link to your post that got you banned?
[12:45] <Azelphur> ali1234: it wasn't a post, it was in IRC
[12:45] <ali1234> w/e :)
[12:45] <Azelphur> anything I posted on the forum got deleted as "FUD"
[12:45] <Azelphur> xD
[13:00] <shauno> I Thought bukkit was essentially dead
[13:13] <ali1234> most amusing
[13:20] <marxjohnson> I just did a dist-upgrade on a 14.04 box. When I rebooted, I can see the Plymouth screen on boot and shutdown, but other than that, just a black screen.  I can SSH in, but that's it.  Can anyone suggest what I might want to look at?
[13:20] <marxjohnson> to clarify, I can do stuff when SSHed in
[13:36] <RaccoonCity> test
[13:36] <RaccoonCity> Hello people.
[13:37] <foobarry> ping
[13:41] <marxjohnson> I uninstalled the proprietary AMD graphics driver and it's working again now. Must have been a problem with the update
[13:43] <foobarry> pinterest is awful :(
[13:43] <foobarry> cannot upload multi images. paste a link and it doesn't offer the images you want..
[15:39] <mapps> hello
[17:53] <penguin42> is BBC1/2 freeview EPG broken for anyone else?
[18:56] <gebbione> cannot resize columns in folders anymore since upgradin ubuntu
[18:56] <gebbione> anyone noticed/fixed it?
[18:57] <gebbione> anyone alive?
[19:33] <gebbione> gnome is really going bonkers
[19:33] <gebbione> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2221949&p=13116509#post13116509
[22:01] <n1md4> evening all
[22:02] <n1md4> reckon anyone wants to help with a network issue?
[22:02] <n1md4> admittedly not an ubuntu query
[22:02] <n1md4> But I run ubuntu on my laptop, if that makes a difference? :D
[22:03] <n1md4> Usually I'd not ask to ask, but on this occassion I'll wait for a reply.  Alternatively a good channel to ask a routing question.
[22:05] <ali1234> !ask
[22:06] <daftykins> n1md4: ##networking also
[22:08] <n1md4> ali1234: I know ... but it might have got long winded.
[22:08] <n1md4> daftykins: thanks.


[00:14] <airtonix> nvm, noobisms strikes, man page reveals all
[00:37] <Jonny5^> does /etc/apt/sources.list count for aptitude as well or just for apt-get?
[00:38] <twb> Jonny5^: yes
[00:38] <Jonny5^> that wasn't an absolute question
[00:40] <Jonny5^> so, the config works for both managers?
[00:44] <Jonny5^> I gather yes. sorry for the stupid question
[00:44] <Jonny5^> mmmh, webmin works
[00:45] <Jonny5^> thanks fellows. I guess I'll have a lot of fun with my new box ^^
[00:51] <twb> !webmin
[00:55] <smoser> lool, i don't use s3 a lot myself. really only for ec2.
[00:56] <Jonny5^> urgs
[00:56] <Jonny5^> but I can manage my cups with it, right?
[00:57] <lool> smoser: Ok; I figured you'd be the one hearing what Ubuntu users care about in terms of packaged tools
[00:57] <smoser> well, the server team has had a "package cloud utils" uds session for the last few
[00:57] <smoser> and we've packaged some
[00:57] <lool> smoser: I was mostly wondering whether there was desire for this in Ubuntu, not from you personally but in general
[00:57] <lool> Ok
[01:22] <nertil> i got update linux firmware ?
[01:22] <nertil> what does this mean
[01:32] <Jonny5^> what's the command to view my command line history?
[01:48] <gratidude> Jonny5^: history
[01:48] <Jonny5^> cool. can I select a specific entry from the history somehow?
[01:50] <gratidude> Jonny5^: !<num>
[01:50] <Jonny5^> thanks! I really love this command line stuff
[01:51] <gratidude> Jonny5^: have fun! :)
[01:51] <Jonny5^> unthinkable, the times when I used to admin windows machines with mouse clicks ^^
[01:51] <Jonny5^> thx :)
[01:52] <Jonny5^> now I've just gotta get this printer working
[01:59] <mpn> Hello, any new about ubuntu clustering?
[02:01] <nertil> is it possible to setup my username nertil to be logeed all the time in ubuntu server?
[02:02] <zeknox> nertil: yes
[02:03] <zeknox> nertil: explain the purpose please?
[02:10] <nertil> zeknox
[02:10] <zeknox> nertil: yes
[02:11] <nertil> well i run pisg statistics
[02:11] <nertil> every time i am loged in the ubuntu server pisg can update
[02:11] <nertil> if im not pisg cannot update
[02:11] <nertil> it says this
[02:11] <nertil> a/home/nertil/pisg-0.72/pisg an error occured: Couldn't execute "/home/nertil/pisg-0.72/pisg": no such file or directory
[02:11] <zeknox> nertil: how often do you reboot the server?
[02:12] <zeknox> nertil: have you tried setting up a cron job?
[02:12] <nertil> yes i can with cron but i loose the msg that bot displays in channel
[02:12] <nertil> it worked just well this days
[02:15] <zeknox> nertil: not sure man
[02:16] <nertil> what about my username be loged in non stop?
[02:16] <zeknox> I would just log it into the console and not reboot the server
[02:17] <nertil> maybe this have to do with rights?
[02:17] <nertil> i need to set some rights
[02:21] <zeknox> nertil: why does it think the file or directory does not exist, does it exist and what user is trying to execute it, do they have permision to view and execute it?
[02:22] <nertil> i dont know
[02:22] <nertil> i added 777 to everything
[02:22] <nertil> to execute or access
[02:23] <nertil> when im loged in the box with nertil
[02:23] <nertil> everything is okey
[02:23] <nertil> if i logof
[02:23] <nertil> the error shows
[02:23] <zeknox> who is executing it?  what user?
[02:24] <nertil> nertil
[02:24] <nertil> how can i do everyone can execute it
[02:24] <zeknox> 777
[02:25] <nertil> -rwxrwxrwx 1 nertil nertil   5329 2008-02-13 21:40 pisg
[02:26] <zeknox> nertil: what if you have a cronjob output to a file with redirector > so you can get the messages?
[02:26] <nertil> well i dont like cron
[02:26] <nertil> it was just okay
[02:26] <nertil> dont know whats messed up
 !stats
 Stats Updated: http://pisg.nertil.info
[02:26] <nertil> i was in box
[02:26] <nertil> im out
 !stats
 /home/nertil/pisg-0.72/pisg an error occured: Couldn't execute "/home/nertil/pisg-0.72/pisg": no such file or directory
[02:31] <nertil> weird right?
[02:31] <nertil> :))
[02:34] <zeknox> yeah not sure what to tell ya
[02:34] <zeknox> not familiar with the program
[02:38] <nertil> well i think that is because my
[02:38] <nertil> home folder nertil
[02:38] <nertil> is encrypted
[02:38] <zeknox> now you tell us that
[02:38] <zeknox> and it needs the authentication to unencrypt
[02:38] <zeknox> move that script and shit to a folder that is unencrypted
[02:39] <zeknox> you should never be running anything from your home dir best practices say
[02:39] <zeknox> /etc/pisg/pisg-0.72
[02:39] <zeknox> that is what I would do
[02:39] <nertil> can u tell me how to move it to /etc/?
[02:41] <zeknox> sure
[02:41] <zeknox> lets start with a little 'mkdir /etc/nertil
[02:41] <zeknox> '
[02:41] <zeknox> wihtout quotes of course
[02:43] <zeknox> mkdir /etc/nertile               <-- this will make the folder than we can move it in there
[02:43] <nertil> yep
[02:43] <nertil> wait
[02:43] <nertil> i think i copied
[02:43]  * zeknox is waiting......
[02:43] <zeknox> nertil: you may need to sudo
[02:44] <nertil> i fixed
[02:44] <nertil> :))
[02:44] <nertil> it works now
[02:44] <nertil> i did folder /var/etc
[02:44] <nertil> and copyed pisg there
[02:44] <nertil> at last
[02:44] <nertil> :))
[02:44] <zeknox> we did it!!!
[02:44] <zeknox> I knew exactly what the prob was when you said encryption
[02:45] <nertil> thumbs UP!
[02:45] <zeknox> pwnin' nubs!
[07:34] <TomTom> good morning! i am booting from the 10.10 64bit server iso and missing the driver for the 3ware 9750. which is called 3w-sas, how to allow to load this module during installation?
[07:38] <andreasf> TomTom: Have a look at /etc/modules :-)
[07:51] <TomTom> andreasf: there is no /etc/modules when booting the installer
[07:52] <TomTom> i also tried to use the expert mode to see if i could get somehow the "scsi-extra-modules". but there was no such option
[07:55] <Corleone> hi, how do i get my ubuntu 10.04 server to connect to my router using WEP, when i disable WEP it works fine, but it doesn't connect when enabled, any ideas?
[07:58] <andreasf> TomTom: Ah, sorry. I misread. I thought the module doesn't get loaded at boot *after* installation.
[07:58] <TomTom> AAAAAAAAAAAAAHG! https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/707303
[07:59] <TomTom> is it possible to use the installer of 11.xx but installing 10.10 ?
[08:02] <ajith_kgs> I am having trouble with my UEC. When i try to run instances, it says "running" but I cannot connect to it though i have given permission for my default security group using euca-authorize. Further investigation lead me to the empty console.log in my nc. Please advice..
[08:03] <ajith_kgs>  I am having trouble with my UEC. When i try to run instances, it says "running" but I cannot connect to it though i have given permission for my default security group using euca-authorize. Further investigation lead me to the empty console.log in my nc. Please advice..
[08:07] <ajith_kgs> can anyone help me
[08:09] <ajith_kgs>  I am having trouble with my UEC. When i try to run instances, it says "running" but I cannot connect to it though i have given permission for my default security group using euca-authorize. Further investigation lead me to the empty console.log in my nc. Please advice..
[08:10] <TomTom> are you a bot? repeating does not increase the chance of help, it raises the level of ignorance
[08:10] <ajith_kgs> sorry
[08:22] <Corleone> hi, how do i get my ubuntu 10.04 server to connect to my router using WEP, when i disable WEP it works fine, but it doesn't connect when enabled, any ideas?
[09:19] <SpamapS> jamespage: ping?
[10:10] <jamespage> SpamapS: pong (but guess you might be in bed :-))
[10:27] <TomTom> its really a major pain to install ubuntu using a 3ware 9570. 10.04-2 server is 2.6.32-28 which conflicts with the 3ware provided drivers for 2.6.32-24, and 10.10 normally should contain the drivers but it was "forgotten" to include them... where do i get the current 3w-sas.ko which is compatible with the kernel provided by the 10.10 ?
[10:32] <SpamapS> jamespage: actually I'm in SAST (UTC+2) ... :)
[10:32] <jamespage> SpamapS: sprinting?
[10:32] <SpamapS> jamespage: so, zookeeper needs some love .. wondering if you've looked at it
[10:32] <jamespage> lemme finish up some ec2 testing stuff and I'll take a look.
[10:32] <jamespage> whats the current issue?
[10:36]  * jamespage takes a look for SpamapS
[11:00] <[diablo]> good morning all... I am looking to recruit an Ubuntu systems administrator for London.
[11:01] <[diablo]> if anyone is interested please private message me
[11:03] <RoyK> wouldn't advertising the regular way be better?
[11:03] <[diablo]> RoyK, I can not find exactly what I require ... too many RHEL guys with no Ubuntu experience
[11:04] <[diablo]> RoyK, hence mentioning it here .... also if at all possible I would like to place an announcement in the forums
[11:04] <shauno> [diablo]: you may want to look into mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/linuxjobs
[11:04] <[diablo]> hi shauno many thanks ! I will check that
[11:05] <shauno> probably a better use of time than hoping a significant amount of the 280 people in here are anywhere near london
[11:05] <[diablo]> shauno, I knew it would be a long shot, but still one I feel is worth trying, no harm
[11:29] <SpamapS> jamespage: the issue is that the latest version isn't packaged, and zookeeper was removed from Debian squeeze .. we need to bug them to package the new one and maybe even provide a patch for that.
[11:31] <jamespage> SpamapS: did a bit of digging - the reason it was removed from squeeze was that the maintainer was unable to continue working on it
[11:31] <jamespage> see http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=602694
[11:31] <SpamapS> jamespage: good opportunity for you to join the debian java package maintainer team
[11:31] <jamespage> and some other misc issues
[11:32] <jamespage> SpamapS: so I did discuss this briefly with mathiaz
[11:32] <jamespage> ages back
[11:33] <SpamapS> jamespage: Its a key component of Ensemble so you'll probably be pinged again soon about it. :)
[11:33] <jamespage> my understanding was that the zookeeper (and hadoop) packages are not great as they stand
[11:33] <jamespage> he was working with upstream (cloudera)  to resolve this issue (but I suspect no longer)
[11:34] <jamespage> i.e. align the best upstream to Ubuntu/Debian so build from source becomes easier
[11:35] <SpamapS> Well the package works fine.. just needs to be well maintained
[11:36] <jamespage> or maintained at all; I'll take a deeper look once I've got some of my immediate workload out of the way
[11:37] <SpamapS> Yeah nothing immediate.. just an FYI really
[11:37] <jamespage> I'm seriously lacking in zookeeper experience so I will try to swat up on that as well
[11:38] <Daviey> jamespage, Can i jump on you about something else? :)   What is the process for getting a java applet signed?
[11:42]  * jamespage looks for a good howto
[11:43] <jamespage> Daviey: whats the context?
[11:43] <Daviey> jamespage, getting NX java applet to not show a warning.
[11:44] <jamespage> ah - that old chesnut
[11:45] <Daviey> it is signed... but untrusted... so assume they didn't use a valid CA?
[11:45]  * Daviey has NFI about signing java applets
[11:45] <jamespage> So its really self-signed - i.e. there is no trust path to a good 3rd party
[11:46] <Daviey> guess so!
[11:48] <jamespage> Well the process is normally as you would for say a web server certificate.
[11:49] <jamespage> Albeit a few jar specific bits and pieces.
[11:53] <jamespage> Daviey: this might help http://download.oracle.com/javase/6/docs/technotes/guides/plugin/developer_guide/rsa_signing.html
[11:57] <Daviey> jamespage, thanks!
[12:09] <phoenixsampras> help, how to setup a email server with smtp and imap and webmail?
[12:15] <oCean> !mta
[12:18] <phoenixsampras> does postfix supports mailing lists?
[12:20] <Daviey> SpamapS, re-basing your sysvinit patch.... again
[12:21] <shauno> phoenixsampras: you can have multiple recipients for an alias, which sort of does the job, but you'll likely do better with dedicated mailman / majordomo type jobs
[12:21] <Daviey> SpamapS, uploading http://pb.daviey.com/IoR5/raw/ ok?
[12:27] <phoenixsampras> oh nice
[12:27] <phoenixsampras> ok , ill setup a Ubuntu server now!
[12:27] <phoenixsampras> im sick of centos
[12:28] <laen> Heretic.
[14:06] <RoAkSoAx> morning all
[14:18] <jibel_> hggdh, jamespage , I pushed alternate iso testing to usit. Can you please review the packaging part ? thanks
[14:39] <jamespage> jibel_: ack - will look in a bit
[14:40] <jamespage> hggdh, smoser: around?
[14:40] <smoser> here
[14:40] <jamespage> smoser: cool; something to show you
[14:40] <jamespage> http://ec2-174-129-162-244.compute-1.amazonaws.com:8080/
[14:41] <jamespage> so this is a test Jenkins setup for executing the ec2 testing.
[14:42] <jamespage> tests (read jobs in Jenkins) are aligned to the test cases as tracker in the ISO tracker.
[14:43] <jamespage> it does *work* (i.e. it runs up charges on my aws account) so I've not splurged on running tests yet
[14:43] <jamespage> but I have run 1 low cost one so you can see the type of output you get
[14:44] <smoser> jamespage, dude, that absolutely RULES
[14:44] <jamespage> smoser: it will run multi instance testing as well; tested but on lower than normal volumes
[14:45] <jamespage> smoser: can you take a look at http://ec2-174-129-162-244.compute-1.amazonaws.com:8080/job/natty_ec2_us-east-1_cloud-config/lastSuccessfulBuild/artifact/us-east-1a/i386/m1.small/instance-store/i-0b050267/d91deda5-11c0-45c7-9c4f-64d528016a17-terminated.console.txt/*view*/
[14:45] <smoser> volumes ?
[14:45] <jamespage> so I ran it using t1.micros - 5 instances rather than 10
[14:45] <jamespage> thats not setup in this config - I did that from the command line.
[14:45] <smoser> you're seeing https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/cloud-init/+bug/728167
[14:46] <smoser> and our archives being hosed in ec2 at the moment
[14:46] <smoser> (although they should be getting fixed)
[14:46] <jamespage> yeah - I has going to ask about archives
[14:46] <smoser> the real problem is that archives are messed up, and so cloud-init failed the update and then did not install packages
[14:46] <smoser> so i've changed that in trunk so that it will *try* to install the packages
[14:46] <smoser> but thats not guaranteed to work
[14:47] <jamespage> nice - I used cloud-init on natty to setup this test instance of jenkins - worked real sweet for me.
[14:47] <jamespage> generation of jobs is also automated.
[14:48] <jamespage> and when you submit a job (which you need to login todo) you can specify a build number (for candidate testing)
[14:49] <jamespage> (its also the built from source for Ubuntu Jenkins BTW :-))
[14:50] <jamespage> smoser: so next time we do a round of testing it would be good to try it here as well - I'll talk to robbiew about potential extra costs.
[14:51] <smoser> jamespage, thank you very much for your work on this.
[14:51] <smoser> its $50 or so to run the tests, not a huge deal
[14:51] <smoser> i think its just $8 to run the i386 tests on all regions even.
[14:51] <smoser> something like that
[14:52] <eMgz> I want to opan a GRE over IPsec tunnel between two vpns, I can see my packets going from my subnet through the GRE tunnel interface, but they are not reaching the eth0 interface, what am I missing?
[14:52] <jamespage> smoser: np - I've really enjoyed getting the exposure to boto and ec2/aws
[14:52] <smoser> but anyway, i do want to look at the test suite you have going a bit more and help out with making it better.
[14:53] <jamespage> thanks
[14:53] <jamespage> I've tried to mimic what your scripts did as much as possible; going to put together some wiki pages to explain....
[15:01] <jamespage> jibel_ : usit merge approved and uploaded to testing PPA
[15:02] <jibel_> jamespage, great! thx
[15:03] <jamespage> jibel_: np
[15:17] <RoAkSoAx> hggdh: Morning!!
[15:17] <RoAkSoAx> hggdh: so I think after the testing I did yesterday it would be safe to invalidate the powernap/euca bug
[15:17] <RoAkSoAx> as you couldn't reproduce the error either
[15:24] <hggdh> RoAkSoAx, I agree. I would say whatever the issue was, it got auto-resolved on the newer build(s)
[15:25] <hggdh> jamespage, I am also here, sort of late answer to your ping
[15:26] <jamespage> hggdh: read above and take a look at http://ec2-174-129-162-244.compute-1.amazonaws.com:8080/
[15:27] <hggdh> jamespage, already there :-)
[15:27] <hggdh> jamespage, *very* cool
[15:28]  * jamespage reserves the right to run any jobs for the time being....
[15:34] <hggdh> jamespage, oh, why?
[15:34] <hggdh> :-)
[15:34] <jamespage> :-) using my access keys....
[15:37] <hggdh> jamespage, you might like to run one test on the super-extra-humongously-large type they now have, I hear it is less than $10k per hour...
[15:38] <jamespage> hggdh: nice - guess that one won't be in the normal test cases then
[15:39] <hggdh> jamespage, well, I can guarantee you it will not...
[16:01] <orudie> how can I get my ubuntu server to resolve the right IPs of local machines that are located on the same LAN ?
[16:02] <orudie> i figured out the hostnames that are static, by adding them in hosts file, but how about DHCP clients ?
[16:02] <orudie> or DHCP hostnames
[16:05] <air^> orudie: that's for your local dns to handle
[16:06] <orudie> air^, do you mean I have to put a local DNS server in /etc/resolv.conf ?
[16:07] <air^> orudie: I mean, if you want to resolve ip's, you need something to resolve them from.
[16:07] <air^> orudie: so, what are you trying to do? :)
[16:07] <orudie> air^, taking care of DNS on my LAN here
[16:07] <compdoc> my firewall provides dns, and has a page where you define local hosts
[16:07] <air^> if you have your own dns, then yes, that's what you should use.
[16:08] <air^> orudie: and what is your dhcp server? a regular router?
[16:08] <orudie> air^, the local DNS is handled by win 2008 DC , will that be compatible with ubuntu server ?
[16:08] <orudie> DHCP server is dd-wrt
[16:09] <air^> orudie: ok, so what are your dhcp clients and what are you trying to achieve?
[16:09] <compdoc> the dns service in windows server works well
[16:10] <compdoc> just dont use wins
[16:10] <orudie> compdoc, i'm not using wins
[16:10] <air^> orudie: what names is it you want to resolve?
[16:10] <orudie> air^, achieve? nothing in particular, just want to make sure that my DNS is right.
[16:11] <orudie> air^, DHCP names
[16:11] <air^> orudie: DHCP gives out a free IP. what name would you like it to have?
[16:11] <air^> orudie: are you talking about unique names dedicated to the machine, or a unique name locked to the IP?
[16:11] <orudie> air^, like mike-pc
[16:12] <air^> orudie: in that case, give the machines dedicated ip's instead of dhcp, and set it up in DNS?
[16:12] <air^> orudie: or use dd-wrt's static dhcp mapping?
[16:13] <air^> orudie: DNS is when you map a hostname to an ip. not when an ip automatically resolves an hostname from a random machine and maps itself to it.
[16:14] <air^> +to
[16:25] <orudie> air^, let me check what I have set up in DNS in ESXi host where this Ubuntu Server resides
[16:42] <mgorak> Does anyone know if the --tmpfs option is still available with vm-builder on ubuntu 10.10
[16:43] <mgorak> As I am running into errors while trying to execute a build with this option
[16:54] <RoAkSoAx> Daviey-: I'm working on your script btw
[16:55] <Daviey-> RoAkSoAx, Good... I'm  not proud of that code.
[16:55] <RoAkSoAx> Daviey-: hahah now worries, as long as it works... :)
[16:56] <Daviey-> :)
[16:56] <Daviey-> RoAkSoAx, have you tried it?
[16:57] <RoAkSoAx> Daviey-: yeah! I like it though I'm merging download/test together and adding the possibility to specify user and release
[16:57] <RoAkSoAx> and then save to a file
[16:57] <Daviey-> RoAkSoAx, cool
[16:57] <Daviey-> RoAkSoAx, Gotta love the screen scraping?
[16:57] <Daviey-> :)
[16:58] <RoAkSoAx> hehe
[16:59] <Daviey-> RoAkSoAx, The bug i quoted the other day was wrong, the bug that means you can use the API is bug #610491
[16:59] <Daviey-> "not a priority" i was told
[16:59] <RoAkSoAx> too bad
[16:59] <RoAkSoAx> i don't think it is that hard either
[17:00] <RoAkSoAx> we should probably provide a patch ourselves
[17:26] <Corleone> hi, i cant get my ubuntu connect to my router using WEP, but it has no problem connecting when WEP is off, any ideas??
[17:43] <ivoks> Corleone: server? or desktop?
[17:44] <cerealkllr> smoser, ping
[17:45] <Corleone> server
[17:45] <ivoks> Corleone: you are using wpa_supplicant?
[17:50] <Daviey-> cerealkllr, smoser is afk... can anyone else help?
[17:53] <cerealkllr> Daviey-, I'm looking at https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/eucalyptus/+bug/615442
[17:57] <cerealkllr> there seem to be two issues here. A messed up import and the fact that we dump the python admin tools in /usr/sbin/ along with the rest of the eucalyptus scripts
[17:58] <Daviey-> cerealkllr, yeah... i'm familar with that bug
[17:58] <Daviey-> cerealkllr, IIRC a python setup.py was sent to you chaps?
[17:59] <Corleone> ivoks: what do u mean?
[17:59] <Daviey-> cerealkllr, you know bug #717166 is causing the most pain atm?
[18:00] <ivoks> Corleone: what tools do you use to connect server to wifi network?
[18:00] <cerealkllr> Daviey-, yep, nurmi is looking into it
[18:00] <Corleone> just iwconfig
[18:01] <ivoks> Corleone: is packages 'wpasupplicant' installed?
[18:01] <ivoks> package
[18:01] <Corleone> how do i check?
[18:01] <ivoks> dpkg -l | grep wpasupplicant
[18:02] <ivoks> or, oh, just:
[18:02] <ivoks> dpkg -l wpasupplicant
[18:02] <Corleone> yes its installed
[18:02] <RoAkSoAx> cerealkllr: Daviey- Correct me if I'm wrong but regardless of whether there's a setup.py or not, those files can be installed in usr/share/pyshared and the packaging should handle it by itself and install the files where they should or symlink to /usr/lib/python2.7/<...>
[18:03] <laen> You're running a server and have no idea how (from the huge amount of ways to do that) to check if you have a package installed. Maybe you shouldn't run that server.
[18:03] <Daviey-> RoAkSoAx, Oh aye, it was just a damn amount easier to run a dh rule
[18:03] <Corleone> ivoks: wait, it displays it, but how do i know its installed, its a bit confusing
[18:03] <ivoks> Corleone: are you passing the key is hex?
[18:03] <Daviey-> RoAkSoAx, equally... running python-central or similar is a pain in the butt manually
[18:03] <Daviey-> RoAkSoAx, last cycle ran out of time to fix it properly
[18:03] <ivoks> Corleone: are you passing the key in hex?
[18:03] <Corleone> ivoks: yes
[18:04] <Daviey-> RoAkSoAx, Patches welcome :)
[18:04] <RoAkSoAx> Daviey-: not really i can take a look at it though :)
[18:04] <RoAkSoAx> will do
[18:04] <ivoks> Corleone: try s:string
[18:04] <Corleone> i did, didnt work
[18:04]  * RoAkSoAx enjoys python pacging
[18:04] <RoAkSoAx> packaging*
[18:04] <Daviey-> RoAkSoAx, Awesome... merge proposal ready for Monday morning UTC? @:)
[18:04] <Corleone> ivoks: how do i know its installed, wpasupplicant, it lists it, but the output is confusing
[18:04] <RoAkSoAx> Daviey-: ehhe will start taking a look post launch... i'm off to launch :)
[18:04] <ivoks> Corleone: it should start with ii
[18:05] <Corleone> ohhh yes it does
[18:05] <ivoks> but wpasupplicatn is just for wpa/wpa2 (i just realized that)
[18:05] <Corleone> yep, i need WEP
[18:05] <Daviey-> RoAkSoAx, it probably makes sense to split it out into a seperate  binary package of python-eucalyptus-admin or similar
[18:05] <Daviey-> RoAkSoAx, lemme see if i can find the setup.py
[18:06] <Corleone> ivoks: brb
[18:06] <ivoks> Corleone: do you get an error when issuing iwconfig command?
[18:06] <RoAkSoAx> Daviey-: oki, post it in the bug
[18:06]  * RoAkSoAx will be back
[18:06] <RoAkSoAx> later
[18:07] <Daviey-> cerealkllr, found the mail - http://pb.daviey.com/ZcRO/raw/
[18:07] <Daviey-> RoAkSoAx, ^^
[18:15] <Daviey-> cerealkllr, Regarding the dhcpd bug, has nurmi started it?  I'm happy to help if he can push a scratch branch somewhere?
[18:16] <Daviey-> cerealkllr, It's just that this bug is really blocking us.
[18:52] <Corleone> ivoks: you there?
[18:52] <ivoks> Corleone: yes
[18:52] <ivoks> Corleone: but only for couple of minutes
[18:52] <Corleone> oh ok
[18:53] <ivoks> Corleone: did iwconfig return an error?
[18:53] <Corleone> i got no error when i issue the iwconfig
[18:53] <ivoks> Corleone: how about /var/log/syslog
[18:53] <Corleone> how do i access it
[18:54] <ivoks> less /var/log/syslog.2.gz
[18:54] <cerealkllr> Daviey-, yeah I think nurmi is working on it
[18:54] <ivoks> argh
[18:54] <ivoks> less /var/log/syslog
[18:54] <cerealkllr> Daviey-, I'll ping him for an update
[18:54] <Daviey-> cerealkllr, super, thanks
[18:54] <Corleone> ivoks: yeah, okay
[18:54] <Corleone> done
[18:55] <ivoks> well, look for errorss
[18:56] <Corleone> ivoks: okay im rebooting
[18:56] <ivoks> ?
[18:56] <Corleone> the server
[18:56] <ivoks> why?
[18:56] <Corleone> cos i issued loads of commands in the mean time, too many errors lol
[18:56] <Corleone> i got the iwconfig at bootup anyway
[18:56] <ivoks> open one terminal and run 'tail -f /var/log/syslog'
[18:57] <ivoks> and then issue commands in another terminal
[18:57] <ivoks> note that logs have timestamps :)
[18:57] <ivoks> anyway, i have to go now
[18:57] <Corleone> okay
[18:58] <knoxy> Hi all.. After I upgrade my ubuntu server 9.10 to ubuntu 10.04, I get this message: http://img820.imageshack.us/f/capturadetela2m.png/
[18:58] <knoxy> Please, somebody help-me
[18:58] <knoxy> my MySQL Server is down...
[18:59] <ivoks> knoxy: system doesn't see your disk
[19:00] <ivoks> knoxy: look if there's /dev/disk/by-label/c513c*
[19:00] <ivoks> errr
[19:00] <Corleone> ivoks: dhclient cant get an offer
[19:00] <ivoks> knoxy: /dev/disk/by-uuid/c513c*
[19:00] <Corleone> no DHCLIENTOFFERS received
[19:00] <knoxy> ivoks, I'm trying do boot with live cd... and I can see this uuid
[19:01] <ivoks> knoxy: no, not live cd, but the system
[19:01] <ivoks> knoxy: when it fails, you are in busybox, from which you can do some debugging
[19:01] <knoxy> ivoks, man, please, how can I do to fix it??
[19:02] <ivoks> didn't i just tell you what to do?
[19:02] <knoxy> the system has running normally since 8 am
[19:02] <knoxy> 14:00pm the system crash..
[19:02] <ivoks> did you boot the system into busybox?
[19:03] <ivoks> it's 20PM over here, it's friday
[19:03] <knoxy> ivoks, this debug is of the mysql machine
[19:03] <ivoks> your time is ticking... i'm about to go out :)
[19:03] <Corleone> lol
[19:03] <ivoks> remove the live CD, boot the system
[19:03] <knoxy> ivoks, ok..
[19:03] <ivoks> wait for it to not boot and enter busybox
[19:04] <ivoks> then look if there is /dev/disk/by-uuid/c513c*
[19:04] <knoxy> hmmm
[19:04] <ivoks> ppetraki: hi ;)
[19:04] <knoxy> ivoks, how?
[19:04] <ivoks> ls
[19:04] <ppetraki> ivoks, miss me?
[19:04] <ivoks> ls /dev/disk/by-uuid/c513c*
[19:04] <ivoks> ppetraki: always :) got a new ...?
[19:06] <knoxy> ivoks, http://img69.imageshack.us/f/capturadetela3w.png/
[19:07] <ivoks> knoxy: try mount /dev/disk/by-uuid/c513... /root
[19:07] <knoxy> ivoks, Invalid argument
[19:07] <RoyK> erm ... mounting dev on /root/dev?
[19:07] <RoyK> sounds like a rather bad idea to me
[19:08] <ivoks> looks like your FS got screwed
[19:08] <ivoks> RoyK: busybox
[19:08] <RoyK> shouldn't busybox use /dev as well?
[19:08] <ivoks> what's important here is that he cannot mount his root partition
[19:09] <knoxy> RoyK, try to mount in /dev ?
[19:09] <ivoks> his filesystem is broken probably
[19:09] <knoxy> ivoks, so, I try to run the live cd to run fsck
[19:09] <knoxy> because I think the FS is screwed
[19:09] <ivoks> knoxy: that would be the next step, yes
[19:09] <RoyK> knoxy: did you configure this busybox setup yourself?
[19:10] <knoxy> RoyK, yes
[19:10] <RoyK>  /root is just user root's homedir
[19:10] <RoyK> dev should be mounted on /dev
[19:10] <RoyK> same with proc and sys
[19:10] <ivoks> RoyK: man
[19:10] <ivoks> RoyK: it's busybox
[19:10] <ivoks> RoyK: it mounts filesystems inside /root
[19:10] <ivoks> RoyK: then does chroot or pivot_root
[19:11] <RoyK> oh
[19:11] <RoyK> ok
[19:11] <ivoks> and then boots the system
[19:11] <RoyK> didn't know that
[19:11] <ivoks> it's initrd
[19:11] <ivoks> anyway, i won't be here to wait for fsck results :)
[19:11] <ivoks> i'm off to get some beer :)
[19:12] <knoxy> ivoks, RoyK look the 'ls -l'
[19:12] <knoxy> http://img848.imageshack.us/f/capturadetela4.png/
[19:12] <RoyK> ivoks: I guess /etc/init.d/udevtrigger must be started first to create those /dev//disk/by-uuid entries
[19:12] <knoxy> look the size
[19:12] <RoyK> either that or use device names directly instead of uuids
[19:12] <ivoks> RoyK: look at /etc/initramfs-tools/ ;)
[19:13] <ivoks> knoxy: boot live cd and check the disk
[19:13] <ivoks> maybe your disk died
[19:13] <ivoks> in a strange way
[19:13] <ivoks> stupid me
[19:13] <ivoks> knoxy: those are links
[19:14] <ivoks> knoxy: just fsck your filesystem
[19:14] <knoxy> look man
[19:14] <knoxy> when I try to run the fsck
[19:14] <knoxy> http://img215.imageshack.us/f/capturadetela1l.png/
[19:14] <knoxy> reiserfsck --rebuild-tree /dev/sda1
[19:14] <knoxy> and all of parameters hehe
[19:14] <ivoks> reiser?!
[19:15] <ivoks> you were just looking for the trouble, weren't you? :)
[19:15] <RoyK> wifekillerfs...
[19:15] <soren> http://blog.calcifer.com.ar/uploads/2007/07/jitcrunch.jpg
[19:16] <soren> Favourite reiserfs t-shirt.
[19:16] <ivoks> knoxy: looks like a broken disk, run some S.M.A.R.T diagnostics
[19:16] <soren> ivoks: From the looks of it, this is a virtual machine.
[19:16] <ivoks> soren: :)
[19:16] <soren> ivoks: They don't often do SMART.
[19:16] <ivoks> soren: good catch :)
[19:16] <knoxy> ivoks, SMART disgnostics?
[19:17] <ivoks> knoxy: ignore
[19:17] <ivoks> check your VM host
[19:17] <ivoks> or at leat fdisk -l /dev/sda
[19:17] <ivoks> least
[19:17] <knoxy> in live cd?
[19:17] <ivoks> errr
[19:18] <ivoks> did you prepend sudo to reiserfsck?
[19:18] <knoxy> yes
[19:18]  * RoyK would /never/ use reiserfs for an embedded machine
[19:18] <ivoks> does 'sudo fdisk -l /dev/sda' works?
[19:19] <knoxy> RoyK, thanks]
[19:19] <knoxy> ivoks, no
[19:19] <ivoks> i would never use resierfs.
[19:19] <knoxy> the same error
[19:19] <knoxy> "exited by code 6"
[19:19] <ivoks> knoxy: then your virtualization is broken
[19:19] <RoyK> _LM_: cat /proc/partitions
[19:19] <RoyK> erm
[19:19] <RoyK> knoxy: that was for you (cat...)
[19:19] <ivoks> maybe out of space or something
[19:20] <ivoks> by the looks, that's windows
[19:20] <ivoks> soren: so, how are you?
[19:21] <knoxy> ivoks, in VM host: 145GB free
[19:21] <ivoks> then something else broke... but your VM isn't passing the working disk to the virtualized guest
[19:21] <ivoks> so, go figure :)
[19:22] <ivoks> take care... beer time
[19:23] <RoyK> whoever said beer time is incompatible with hacking :þ
[19:23] <Corleone> hi, i cant get my ubuntu connect to my router using WEP, but it has no problem connecting when WEP is off, any ideas??
[19:27] <RoyK> Corleone: using ubuntu server with a wireless card?
[19:27] <Corleone> yes
[19:27] <Corleone> at least for now
[19:27] <RoyK> dunno - I've done it with WPA/PSK
[19:28] <RoyK> WEP isn't very good
[19:28] <RoyK> 40bit WEP is cracked in seconds/minutes, 128bit WEP takes a little longer, but is still very insecure
[19:28] <RoyK> WPA2/PSK is quite good
[19:28] <RoyK> or old WPA/PSK
[19:28] <Corleone> yep, i know, but i need to connect my server to my router
[19:29] <knoxy> ivoks, RoyK I revert to my current snapshot...
[19:29] <knoxy> and now, the machine is ok
[19:29] <RoyK> k
[19:29] <knoxy> but, it's a MySQL guest..
[19:29] <knoxy> all data of the day has been lost
[19:30] <RoyK> backup's for cowards
[19:33] <RoyK> knoxy: if you're experimenting on a live server, keep backups updated
[19:35] <knoxy> RoyK, yes.. this experience changes my mind :/
[19:35] <knoxy> thanks for the support
[19:48] <nertil> how to decrypt encrypted username folder on ubuntu?
[19:48] <EvilPhoenix> you... cant?
[19:48] <EvilPhoenix> at least i dont think you can
[19:48] <nertil> okey
[19:48] <EvilPhoenix> i'm probly wrong though
[19:48] <RoyK> nertil: setup 100+ machines to bruteforce the password :D
[19:48] <EvilPhoenix> so you should wait for the rest of the people :P
[19:48] <EvilPhoenix> lol
[19:48] <EvilPhoenix> what RoyK said
[19:49] <nertil> RoyK
[19:49] <nertil> im the owner of that userna
[19:49] <nertil> im the owner of that username
[19:49] <RoyK> sure, I'm just saying all you can do is to bruteforce it
[19:49] <RoyK> it's safe
[19:49] <RoyK> secure
[19:49] <RoyK> etc
[19:49] <nertil> so icant decrypt at all
[19:49] <RoyK> if you buy a good iron safe and lose the key, well, you need to force it open
[19:50] <nertil> okey than can u tell me how to copy/paste a folder to other unencrypted username?
[19:50] <nertil> RoyK i can open
[19:50] <nertil> i want to remove that decryption option
[19:50] <RoyK> the encryption option, you mean?
[19:50] <nertil> i dont want my username to be encrypted
[19:50] <nertil> so i want to remove encryption
[19:51] <nertil> i can open cause i know the password
[19:51] <RoyK> if so, mount the filesystem, do a cp -a /path/to/encrypted/fs /new/path/on/unencrypted/storage
[19:51] <RoyK> then remove the encrypted filesystem
[19:51] <nertil> ok
[19:51] <nertil> can u tell me how to copy/paste a folder from encrypted username to another?
[19:51] <RoyK> man cp
[19:51] <RoyK> it's like copying from anywhere else
[19:52] <RoyK> so long as the encrypted filesystem is mounted, it's readable for all the system
[19:52] <RoyK> or at least for whoever has access there
[19:59] <soren> ivoks: Busy :(
[19:59] <soren> ivoks: I'm preparing for a talk tomorrow. People are drinking beer, I'm stuck in my hotel room.
[20:03] <soren> ivoks: And you?
[20:04] <soren> ivoks: I never understand a thing of the stuff you write on Facebook. You could have been to the moon for all I know :)
[20:04] <lool> Hmm I'm puzzled: this works python -c 'import boto; c=boto.connect_s3(); print c.get_all_buckets()'
[20:04] <lool> but it doesn't work with ipython, or wihin bpython
[20:04] <soren> How does it fail?
[20:05] <soren> lool: ^
[20:14] <lool> soren: http://paste.ubuntu.com/575678/
[20:14] <lool> I get other weird failures with other functions
[20:21] <Daviey> SpamapS, around?
[20:40] <RoAkSoAx> Daviey: ok so I was looking at the packaging and wondering if there's a setup.py, i believe it should handle the installation of everything rather than just the installation of the python related stuff, so I think we'll have to adjust the packaging to install the python files themselves
[20:44] <Daviey> RoAkSoAx, Did you not see my pastebin entry ^^ with a setup.py?
[20:45] <Daviey> Also, you need to patch out the installing of the py's in the ant stuff
[20:47] <lool> soren: the actual error is: <Error><Code>AccessDenied</Code><Message>AWS authentication requires a valid Date or x-amz-date header</Message><RequestId>D8F7C0AB815EECA6</RequestId><HostId>8ilWXTAmC7tnnkVXInKq9+WAs5ukE48F5PbA+Bil8/Cg+2v2WQsC6tpgYAUufVZB</HostId></Error>
[20:47] <lool> but I still don't understand why it only happens with bpython/ipython
[20:47] <lool> soren: Ah!  LC_ALL=C and it works
[20:48] <lool> so it's some obscure locale related thing
[20:50] <RoAkSoAx> Daviey: yeah I was just thinking in something else. Let me do it first and I'll show you
[20:52] <Daviey> lool, Gah... can you report it?
[20:52] <RoAkSoAx> Daviey: dude don't you go out to party or something??
[20:52] <Daviey> RoAkSoAx, The rules file is somewhat complicated already, if we can use dh for this - i'd be happier
[20:52] <Daviey> RoAkSoAx, I have children :)
[20:52] <RoAkSoAx> Daviey: ohhh i guess I'll have to take lots of pisco to Budapest then :P
[20:53] <RoAkSoAx> Daviey: and just let me do what I have in mind and you'll see. Btw... do you want to switch the packaging to dh7?
[20:53] <Daviey> RoAkSoAx, That makes me do silly things..
[20:53] <lool> Daviey: Yup, I'm actually looking at a replacement function right now
[20:53] <lool> issue is in boto/auth.py; search for 'Date'
[20:53] <Daviey> RoAkSoAx, If it's not too intrusive, go crazy!
[20:54] <lool>             headers['Date'] = time.strftime("%a, %d %b %Y %H:%M:%S GMT",
[20:54] <lool>                                             time.gmtime())
[20:54] <lool> This outputs: ven., 04 mars 2011 20:52:41 GMT
[20:54] <lool> in French
[20:54] <lool> I guess what happens is that boto itself doesn't initializes locales, but bpython/ipython do
[20:54] <Daviey> lool, Ah, that is probably  why smoser and me wouldn't have come across that.
[20:55]  * Daviey needs to try bpython... is it better than ipython lool ?
[20:57] <lool> email.Utils.formatdate() seems to be a good replacement
[21:04] <lool> Daviey: I used bpython very little, because I never tried it much; it seems to be a bit nicer than ipython
[21:05] <Daviey> echo "try bpython" >> ~/todo.list
[21:45] <RoAkSoAx> Daviey: still around?
[21:46] <Daviey> RoAkSoAx, pretty much
[21:47] <RoAkSoAx> Daviey: does this look sane to you? http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/575725/
[21:52] <RoAkSoAx> Daviey: and against what branch should I be proposing the merge and getting the source lp:ubuntu/natty/eucalyptus?
[21:57] <RoAkSoAx> Daviey: and to raise a bug/concern to upstream euca where should I do it?
[21:59] <Daviey> RoAkSoAx, no, not that branch
[22:00] <Daviey> RoAkSoAx, lp:~ubuntu-virt/ubuntu/natty/eucalyptus/natty
[22:00] <Daviey> RoAkSoAx, lp.net/eucalyptus for bug
[22:01] <lool> Daviey: From playing with it, bpython has a very nice rewind feature which let's you go back in time, rewinding history
[22:02] <lool> unfortunately, it doesn't seem to have support for searching previous commands in history, which is what I do most of the time in ipython
[22:02] <RoAkSoAx> Daviey: oky. And well It's fixed now will be submitting the branch in a bit for you to merge it
[22:03] <Daviey> lool, nice!
[22:04] <Daviey> lool, it rolls back objects aswell?
[22:04] <lool> I don't know
[22:04] <lool> I don't like the default colors, but the UI is very nice in bpython
[22:05] <lool> with intelligent sorting / hiding of functions, highlight of the function you're typing etc.
[22:05] <lool> the theme seems easily customizable
[22:05]  * Daviey looks forward to trying it
[22:06] <Daviey> RoAkSoAx, NFI what that paste is showing me btw
[22:06] <RoAkSoAx> Daviey: dpkg -c eucalyptus-common<etc/etc>.deb
[22:06] <RoAkSoAx> ?
[22:07] <Daviey> RoAkSoAx, yes, but why?
[22:08] <RoAkSoAx> Daviey: that pastebin now shows that euca_admin has bin installed in usr/share/pyshared and symlinked to the correct python (/usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages and /usr/lib/python2.6/dist-packages)
[22:08] <RoAkSoAx> and that's handled by python-central
[22:08] <Daviey> ahh i see
[22:33] <RoAkSoAx> Daviey: there: https://code.launchpad.net/~andreserl/ubuntu/natty/eucalyptus/natty/+merge/52264
[22:33] <spydmobile> Hi friends i need some advice before I break something, I have 3 servers: old32, old64 and new64, old32 = ProLiant DL360 G5 with a 2 drive raid for OS and a 6 drive (400GB)raid for data mounted as /HOME ruuning server 8.10, old64 is ProLiant DL360 G5 with a 2 drive raid for OS running server 9.10 64-bit and last is new64 = ProLiant DL360 G6 with a 2 drive raid for OS running server 10.10 64 bit. New64 is production and is li
[22:33] <spydmobile> Would I be able to unplug the 6 raid drives from old32 and plug 3 in old64 and 3 in new64 and not have to reinstall ubu server 10.10 64? Thanks for any direction here....
[22:38] <PatrickDK> spydmobile, that should work just fine
[22:41] <Datz> Hi, if anyone familiar with using the virtual kernel images?
[22:41] <Datz> -images
[22:42] <spydmobile> PatrickDK: Thanks!
[22:43] <Datz> I've done something like: aptitude install linux-image-2.6.32-27-virtual
[22:45] <Datz> but it looks as though the virtual kernel relies on the -server kernel config or something, as if I "aptitude purge" the old -server kernel I get kernel panic
[22:45] <Datz> so I remove and not purge, and all works
[22:46] <Datz> but now when I: aptitude safe-upgrade it looks as though it's not trying to upgrade to the lastest -virtual kernel, but rather -server kernel
[22:47] <Datz> does anyone have experience with the -virtual kernel that could help with figure out what's going?
[22:49] <Datz> If I'm going to have to manually update to the latest -virtual kernel and use some -server kernel config I'm just going to stick with -server :P
[22:56] <xnox> I've generate my own SSL CA & Site key/pem sertificates. I've updated the apache2 config and restarted. Yet Apache still presents the "old" snakeoil certificate!
[22:56] <xnox> What did I not do to "replace" the servers ssl certificate?
[22:57] <phoenixsampras> what is the best way to install ubuntu server remotely?
[22:58] <xnox> phoenixsampras, define "remotely" =) you can do netboot or boot it with ssh server and run install from ssh
[22:59] <xnox> phoenixsampras, you can use preseed, and hope it will install it self and come alive on the network.


[11:28] <Tkennedy> hello devs. I was wondering if anyone could assist me with an issue. I'm writing a scope for Ubuntu 14.04 usinf Ubuntu SDK and it seems that when I include a qdbus header I get errors because the included headers have includes that do not start with <qt5...so how do I get around this issue?


[03:14] <Levitcus> yo
[04:50] <ubot2> Leviticus called the ops in #ubuntu-bots-team (waaa rww ban me)
[04:51] <ubot2> Leviticus called the ops in #ubuntu-bots-team (waaa rww ban me!)
[04:56] <ubot2> Leviticus called the ops in #ubuntu-bots-team (waaa rww ban me!)
[04:57] <ubot2> Leviticus called the ops in #ubuntu-bots-team (waaa rww ban me!)
[14:10] <JanC> seems like Levitcus found out there is no ban in #ubuntu-server yet...
[18:20] <Finrod> When I went into the #ubuntu-ops channel, I saw that only two other users are active in that channel, and no one is messaging anything for the last hour.  Also, no one is responding to my messages in #ubuntu-ops channel
[18:22] <Finrod> Does that mean I am banned or somehow prohibited from the #ubuntu-ops channel?
[18:45] <popey> Finrod: it means people are either a) away from their keyboard, or b) ignoring you for some reason. Probably.
[18:46] <Finrod> ok, thanks
[18:47] <Finrod> If this channel is not for support, what is the purpose of this channel?  And am I allowed to use this channel?
[18:47] <popey> This is for support for operators of Ubuntu channels.
[19:00] <k1l_> Finrod: the #ubuntu-ops channel is not a general support channel. its a channel to talk to ops about the moderation of the channels and /or to deal with kaicks/bans. the reason no one likes to answer you is because the way the discussions went and the actions that came after that discussions.
[19:01] <Finrod> Doe that mean I should leave the #ubuntu-ops channel now, and I am no longer welcome there, k1l_?
[19:03] <k1l_> Finrod: the #ubuntu-ops channel is for the purpose i just said. if you dont have an actual issue to talk with/about ops please leave the channel, because only ops-team-members are meant to idle (stay) there so it stays clear for users who want to talk to/about ops regarding the moderation of the core ubuntu channels.
[19:04] <k1l_> Finrod: everybody is welcome there but please only stay in there as long you deal with an issue.
[19:04] <Finrod> The ubuntu-ops channel is the only channel where I am allowed to discuss my account problems, as far as I know, and now it is no longer working
[19:06] <popey> ubuntu-forums account?
[19:07] <Finrod> yes
[19:07] <Finrod> Ubuntu One SSO accounts
[19:07] <popey> that's not something the people in #ubuntu-ops can help you with
[19:07] <k1l_> Finrod: no. your case is no longer a user - op topic, your case got escalated to the ircc. so please talk to the ircc about the issues with your bans. the #ubuntu-ops channel is also not responsible for ubuntuforums login issues etc. please talk the the specific team.
[19:11] <Finrod> I am sorry. I don't want to cause any further trouble.  should I now leave both the #ubuntu-ops and the #ubuntu-irc channel?
[19:12] <rww> #ubuntu-ops you should leave because you have no pending business there (as it's been referred to IRCC). You're welcome to idle here, but for the avoidance of confusion I'd recommend parting here too and just talking to IRCC folks.
[19:12] <Finrod> I was kicked from the ubuntuforums channel too, last time I tried to address my Ubuntu One account problems.    I am trying to send an email to<EMAIL_ADDRESS> It looks like it bounced when I tried to send it by Hotmail.
[20:29] <teward> go to hotmail's website
[20:29] <teward> use their web client
[20:29] <teward> send email.
[20:30] <Finrod> Isn't there web client Outlook?  I already used that to send the email
[20:30] <teward> alternatively, start here: http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/outlook/send-receive-from-app
[20:30] <teward> Finrod: that's hotmail's website :P  web client == outlook.com since microsoft did all their stuff.
[20:31] <Finrod> I see
[20:32] <Finrod> Does that mean there is a command somewhere in the Outlook client, which I am using now, to find the name of my outgoing server?
[20:33] <rww> #ubuntu-irc is for operator issues relating to the Ubuntu namespace. It is not a support channel, *especially* not for Windows software.
[20:33] <k1l_> see the faq of your email-provider. their support will provide the server settings for your email issues
[20:34] <elky> #freenode isn't either, fwiw
[20:34] <rww> elky: #freenode is a general support channel.
[20:36] <Finrod> ok
[20:36] <Finrod> thanks
[20:37] <teward> also consider using "Google" to find the info you need, Finrod
[21:33] <Finrod> Where can I go to get help accessing the logs?  Which ubuntu channel should I go to?
[21:34] <k1l_> !irclogs
[21:36] <Finrod> I cannot find the ubuntu forums logs in this location, where they are supposed to be:  http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2014/08/25/
[21:36] <Unit193> #ubuntuforums is a social channel, thus unlogged.
[21:40] <Finrod> I am trying to answer a question from an ubuntu forums operator, who requested the log.  He wants to see the log evidence of the exchange, for proof that a conversation actually occured, so I assume there must be logs somewhere.  His email suggests that channel is in fact logged, and he wants to see the log
[21:40] <rww> That's between you and the forums operator. We do not publicly log #ubuntuforums, so any log would have to come from someone's IRC client (probably yours or his).
[21:41] <Finrod> ok, thanks
[21:42] <k1l_> Finrod: besides the public logs there could be your own logs, if you client is setup to log, too.
[21:43] <k1l_> so maybe he is assuming you have your own logs.
[21:43] <Finrod> yes, I have chatzilla
[21:48] <Finrod> but the conversation happened before I began using chatzilla.  But I had copied and pasted the entire conversation into LibreOffice Writer, on Monday night, 25 August, and included it all in my email to him.  But he said he still wants the log, probably to substaniate it is true and accurate
[22:32] <Finrod> Sorry, more likely AbiWord
[22:32] <Finrod> Not LibreOffice Writer
[22:35] <Finrod> I successfully sent several emails to the ubuntu forums and ubuntu IRC operators today, thanks to your help.  Hopefully, that will resolve all of my outstanding issues.  I appreciate your help and patience


[02:00] <Jianqiang> Is it Over ?
[03:07] <Akiva-Thinkpad> errmm?
[03:07] <Akiva-Thinkpad> what?
[06:24] <dholbach> good morning


[05:21] <xubuntu30w> O hai, could anyone help with an Xubuntu 18.04.3 issue with touchscreen being identified wrong by xinput? It should be an easy fix I hope
[05:22] <well_laid_lawn> xubuntu30w:  do you know the hardware inviolved ?
[05:25] <xubuntu30w> @well_laid_lawn it's the touchscreen on an HP RP7800 POS terminal, yes
[05:25] <xubuntu30w> what I can tell you is that it seems to identify itself as two devices, both show up in evtest(1)
[05:26] <xubuntu30w> "HID TOUCH HID Touch Panel Touchscreen" (/dev/input/event4) and "HID TOUCH HID Touch Panel Mouse" (/dev/input/event5)
[05:26] <xubuntu30w> event4 does nothing. event5 generates events exactly like you'd expect when the screen is touched
[05:27] <xubuntu30w> Oops sorry, it's event4 that works and event5 that doesn't
[05:28] <xubuntu30w> However, the only one that shows up in "xinput list" is "HID TOUCH HID Touch Panel Mouse" (the dead one)
[05:29] <xubuntu30w> That's also the only one that shows up in Settings -> Mouse and Touchpad
[05:30] <well_laid_lawn> so you touch the screen to click on something and nothing happens ?
[05:30] <xubuntu30w> Exactly, nothing happens.
[05:31] <well_laid_lawn> I don't use touch screens but we'll see what the interwebs says about it
[05:32] <xubuntu30w> I've been trying to google up what to do for like 2 days, but all the hits I get are like "put ~~~ in Xorg.conf", yet this version of Xubuntu doesn't seem to *have* Xorg.conf :/
[05:34] <well_laid_lawn> it's in ~/.local/share nowadays
[05:34] <well_laid_lawn> I had no luck with a web search 'cept hp.com stuff
[05:35] <xubuntu30w> the thing is that since it'll talk to evtest(1), it's just a case of getting Xinput to accept input from it
[05:35] <xubuntu30w> then I'm sure it'll work
[05:36] <well_laid_lawn> Xorg has to load the right module for it
[05:36] <xubuntu30w> OK, I see
[05:36] <well_laid_lawn> which is probably what you found about editing xorg.conf
[05:37] <xubuntu30w> I didn't find anything specific to this one very touchscreen, what I was looking at was more generic
[05:38] <well_laid_lawn> no harm in trying
[05:38] <well_laid_lawn> can always unedit a file
[05:50] <xubuntu30w> I mean, I didn't even get as far as finding anything that I could paste into an xorg.conf :/
[05:50] <xubuntu30w> like "generic touchscreen" kind of example
[05:51] <well_laid_lawn> xubuntu30w:  it might pay to check dmesg and see what it says about the hardware
[05:55] <xubuntu30w> well_laid_lawn let's have a look
[05:55] <xubuntu30w> hang on
[05:56] <well_laid_lawn> https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Touchscreen might help
[08:32] <bodiccea> Do you use "radiotray" ? It used to work, but recently, it fails when system locks. Impossible to relaunch it too...
[09:05] <hans_> i've seen it TWICE now, i'm pretty sure that: if you install xubuntu through "xubuntu-18.04-desktop-amd64.iso" then you will get a functional apt-get package tab-autocomplete, but if you install it through "xubuntu-18.04.3-desktop-amd64.iso" it will be broken o.0
[09:06] <hans_> anyhow, the last 2 installs i did via xubuntu-18.04.3-desktop-amd64.iso had broken apt-get autocomplete
[11:44] <hans_> how do i add custom programs/launchers to the start menu? put my .desktop file in /usr/share/applications ? is that the correct way to do it?
[11:45] <hans_> idk if it's the correct way to do it, but it worked at least ^^
[11:45] <lighterowl> /usr/share/applications is for system-wide menus, while user ones should go to ~/.local/share/applications.
[11:46] <hans_> thanks
[16:43] <Ural> People, maybe we help me? Please.. I press left mouse key, for set desktop background - but not see background pictures (wallpapers) in folder for it. This wallpapers exist in folder, but i not see its in desktop-settings manager.
[16:48] <lighterowl> you mean the right mouse key :)
[16:49] <lighterowl> Ural: are you sure you've got the right "Folder:" selected under the available thumbnails? I fall for this from time to time.
[16:58] <Ural> In this folder exist wallpapers in jpg
[17:01] <lighterowl> Ural: the only thing that comes to mind is running "xfdesktop-settings -e" from the console and searching the debug log for the name of the file. perhaps there's something blocking the application from reading it.
[17:07] <Ural> Thanks! I do it and see wallpapers
[17:07] <lighterowl> oh
[17:07] <lighterowl> that's surprising. :
[17:07] <lighterowl> :)
[17:07] <Ural> But if i try to change it, it write
[17:09] <Ural> backdrop screen0 monitor0 workspace0 last-image DBG[main.c:1141] cb_folder_selection_changed(): folder didn't change
[17:15] <lighterowl> if you search the log for the name of the file you want to use, does it find anything?
[17:15] <Ural> and (xfdesktop-settings:5689): GLib-GIO-CRITICAL **: 22:14:50.405: g_dbus_proxy_new: assertion 'G_IS_DBUS_CONNECTION (connection)' failed
[17:16] <lighterowl> wow, it's really late over there.
[17:17] <lighterowl> Ural: that sounds like the thumbnailer wasn't running and the desktop settings application cannot connect to it ... which is weird.
[17:18] <Ural> Hmmm
[17:18] <lighterowl> Ural: if you run "pgrep tumblerd" in the console, is there any output?
[17:19] <Ural> 5698
[17:20] <lighterowl> huh.
[17:24] <lighterowl> Ural: the only thing that comes to mind is forcing a refresh of the thumbnails by creating a new thumbnail cache. if that won't work, then I have no idea what might be wrong.
[17:25] <Ural> And how i can to do it?
[17:25] <Ural> Creating new thrumbnal cache?
[17:25] <lighterowl> mv ~/.cache/thumbnails ~/.cache/thumbnails.backup
[17:25] <lighterowl> this will move the current thumbnail cache directory to a backup one, so if you run xfdesktop-settings again, the cache should be recreated.
[17:27] <Ural> Thanks a lot!!! All work!! Work again. Super!!
[17:28] <lighterowl> не за что, спокойной ночи :)
[17:33] <Ural> Спасибо!!!
[20:26] <xubuntu52w> I attempted to a distribution upgrade from 18.04 to 19.10, but it got stuck at the installation stage. It unpacked some libc packages, but then got stuck at "De-configuring libc6:i386 (2.27-3ubuntu1) ...". It has been there for over a day. After killing the upgrade, how do I make sure I don't end up with a broken system? I want to avoid doing a
[20:26] <xubuntu52w> reinstall.
[20:28] <gnrp> xubuntu52w: Try on the console a `dpkg --configure -a`
[21:46] <emant999x> hello


[03:00] <cjohnston> newz2000: ping me when you get a minute please tomorrow
[17:51] <cjohnston> hola
[17:54] <jpds> cjohnston: Hola.
[17:54] <cjohnston> :-)