[18:13] <Dr_Willis> !find alsamixer
[18:13] <raven_> what is a live system for cluster nodes??
[18:13] <ikonia> raven_: there isn't one
[18:14] <zayr> Shows nothing
[18:14] <ikonia> raven_: you've been told about this 10 times before
[18:14] <zayr> Isnt my card loaded ?
[18:14] <zayr> or something
[18:14] <zteam> zayr: hmm, okey, so what happens if you type alsa-mixer in the terminal?
[18:14] <crowband> alguno en espa├▒ol
[18:14] <zayr> it shows in lspci
[18:14] <zayr> zteam: Command 'alsamixer' from package 'alsa-utils' (main)
[18:14] <zayr> but i have that package
[18:14] <demlasjr|2> guys, does somebody have an idea why I can't use wget and apt-get in ubuntu ? I'm getting only timeout :(
[18:15] <crowband> problems wth sound?
[18:15] <zayr> yo
[18:15] <edbian> demlasjr|2, Are you connected to the internet?
[18:15] <crowband> kien eres?
[18:15] <zayr> zteam: if i type alsamixer output is : cannot open mixer: No such file or directory
[18:15] <demlasjr|2> yes edbian....IP working, everything
[18:15] <demlasjr|2> but no wget and apt-get
[18:15] <demlasjr|2> ping...ssh
[18:15] <demlasjr|2> ping working...
[18:15] <demlasjr|2> ssh not from outside
[18:16] <zaxonspox> demlasjr|2, are you using some proxy?
[18:16] <demlasjr|2> is new instalation....ubuntu server
[18:16] <edbian> demlasjr|2, Does a browser work?
[18:16] <demlasjr|2> no...
[18:16] <demlasjr|2> no proxy...no browser in server :)
[18:16] <linduxed> StaRetji1: then i have no idea
[18:16] <zayr> zteam: any idea ? :>
[18:16] <edbian> demlasjr|2, Yes there is, links
[18:16] <zteam> zayr: okey.... hmm... that's odd...
[18:17] <demlasjr|2> edbian: ?
[18:17] <fse> hi, simple queston, in 10.10 / Maverick, can i choose to install on LVM or not ?
[18:17] <zteam> zayr: okey.... did it work then you have pulseaudio installed?
[18:17] <edbian> demlasjr, type "links" without quotes
[18:17] <zayr> zteam: yes and no
[18:17] <demlasjr> ok
[18:17] <StaRetji1> linduxed: ok, thx mate
[18:17] <zteam> zayr: huh?
[18:17] <demlasjr> demlasjr: The program 'links' is currently not installed.  You can install it by typing:
[18:17] <demlasjr> apt-get install links
[18:17] <demlasjr>
[18:18] <zayr> zteam: It worked but when i did something my speakers was not working they sound crappy sound i dont know how to say :D i mean they was fucked up...sorry
[18:18] <yapsol> fse, yes, using the alternate cd
[18:18] <fse> yapsol: ok :/
[18:18] <zteam> zayr: whick version of ubuntu are you using?
[18:18] <demlasjr> edbian: not installed
[18:19] <demlasjr> edbian: any chance from cd ?
[18:19] <zayr> zteam: latest not beta alpha rc or whatever just latest :D
[18:19] <zayr> 10.10
[18:19] <thevishy> hi where can i download the ubuntu installer
[18:19] <edbian> demlasjr, Who cares.  I think you have a firewall running somewhere between you and the internet.
[18:19] <Gerwin> demlasjr: curl?
[18:19] <edbian> demlasjr, Are there any physical devices between you and the internet?
[18:19] <uLinux> is there a "run command" applet embeded to panel?
[18:19] <demlasjr> is a simple switch
[18:19] <zteam> zayr: okey, then I don't really have any idea....
[18:19] <zayr> zteam: seems PulseAudio is something similar to Windows Vista , 7 system cuz i ade there similar problems too...but not on XP
[18:20] <zayr> had
[18:20] <marco32> hello everyone
[18:20] <thevishy> i want to download the ubuntu-installer folder for PXE installation please guide where to download it ( alternate
[18:20] <marco32> i need help
[18:20] <marco32> with a gt330 on sonyvaio z11z9e
[18:20] <Xase> Wish me luck guys, I think I've did it.
[18:20] <zteam> zayr: do you 2 soundcards in your computer or something?
[18:20] <zayr> zteam: no
[18:20] <b3rz3rk3r> iv just installed 10.10 and my wireless isnt working, but the output of lshw shows the hardware and driver are there.. does anyone know how i enable it?
[18:21] <ZykoticK9> b3rz3rk3r, do you see anything related to your wireless in Hardware drivers?
[18:21] <zteam> zayr: Really odd... this sounds more like a hardware error than a software error to me....
[18:21] <b3rz3rk3r> ZykoticK9, no, iv tried that first
[18:21] <bencc> is there a difference between installing with apt-get and installing with the software center?
[18:21] <zayr> zteam: what means odd ?
[18:21] <thevishy> where can i find this pxelinux.cfg etc
[18:21] <ZykoticK9> bencc, not really
[18:22] <edbian> bencc, no
[18:22] <demlasjr> Gerwin: curl I guess is installed
[18:22] <demlasjr> not sure...
[18:22] <b3rz3rk3r> ZykoticK9, the hardware and driver are there, but cant be enabled and im stumped as to why?
[18:22] <demlasjr> edbian: any chance to check it ?
[18:22] <marco32> with live cd 10.10 resolution on my sony vaio z11z9e is perfect..after install only with vesa mode on xorg.conf i can see screen
[18:22] <edbian> b3rz3rk3r, What is the name of the driver listed?
[18:22] <zteam> zayr: that your card doesn't work in later windows versions either
[18:22] <zayr> zteam: but it works with alsa :P
[18:22] <ZykoticK9> b3rz3rk3r, right clicking on nm-applet and enable fails?
[18:22] <bencc> ZykoticK9, edbian: thanks
[18:22] <b3rz3rk3r> edbian, driver=iwlagn driverversion=2.6.35-22-generic firmware=<IP_ADDRESS>
[18:23] <edbian> demlasjr, I doubt the switch has a firewall.  I don't know how to check it
[18:23] <zteam> zayr: Well if I were you I would just try to reinstall the alsamixer
[18:23] <b3rz3rk3r> ZykoticK9, its just greyed out
[18:23] <zayr> zteam: how ?
[18:23] <zteam> zayr: and see what happens
[18:23] <Guest5389> speak spanish??
[18:23] <edbian> b3rz3rk3r, What does this show you "sudo lsmod | grep iwlagn"  without quotes?
[18:23] <ZykoticK9> !es | Guest5389
[18:23] <believe0zijian> halo
[18:23] <demlasjr> edbian: I tried without it and worked, also with other unix OS worked too
[18:24] <edbian> demlasjr, You tried to do what without what?
[18:24] <sysfet> whats the major difference betwwen fedora and ubuntu?
[18:24] <aerosolapple> im having some trouble getting starcraft 2 to display properly in wine
[18:24] <aerosolapple> when i get to the login screen for battle.net is is pixelated and if i quit it locks my computer up
[18:24] <demlasjr> edbian: without the switch
[18:24] <zteam> zayr: try with sudo aptitude reinstall alsa-utils
[18:24] <aerosolapple> ive already tried #winehq
[18:24] <b3rz3rk3r> edbian, iwlagn   202721  0 iwlcore   146875  1 iwlagn mac80211   266657  2 iwlagn,iwlcore cfg80211    170293  3 iwlagn,iwlcore,mac80211
[18:24] <aerosolapple> has anyone else had a similar issue?
[18:25] <edbian> demlasjr, Well then the problem is in the switch! :)  I don't know how to configure those with ubuntu though.
[18:25] <mun__> hi
[18:25] <zteam> zayr: if that doesn't work try to purge the package and then reinstall it again
[18:25] <edbian> b3rz3rk3r, So it's loaded and working...
[18:25] <marco32> anybody can help me with video on z11z9e sony vaio?
[18:25] <edbian> b3rz3rk3r, Is there an enable wireless check box in the nm-applet?
[18:25] <b3rz3rk3r> edbian, exactly... but cant be enabled?! it's really odd
[18:25] <mun__> my root, swap and home are in an extended partition. can i still shrink the size of my root?
[18:25] <demlasjr> edbian: no...I tried without the switch and the wget still didn't worked....but with fedora the network is working
[18:25] <b3rz3rk3r> edbian, yes, but its greyed out
[18:26] <mun__> not just the root, but shrink the size of the whole extended partition?
[18:26] <edbian> demlasjr, sudo iptables -L
[18:26] <edbian> b3rz3rk3r, sudo modprobe iwlagn
[18:26] <gilaniali> in `man write` it says see also talk(1), wall(1) but there is no entry for man talk. Do I have to install it separetely?
[18:26] <demlasjr> edbian: let me check....never had this problem in ubuntu.... I don't give 2 cents on fedora :)
[18:26] <edbian> demlasjr, :)
[18:27] <b3rz3rk3r> edbian, accepted but no output. was there meant to be something?
[18:27] <onaogh> in gnome panels, the notification area notifies only for evolution email client, how i can make it to work for thunderbird ??!!
[18:27] <edbian> b3rz3rk3r, no output means "it did not fail" check the nm-applet again
[18:27] <zteam> zayr: if that doesn't work you to hunt ubuntuforums for your soundcard
[18:27] <b3rz3rk3r> edbian, nothing. same as before
[18:27] <edbian> b3rz3rk3r, sudo iwlist scan
[18:28] <b3rz3rk3r> edbian, interface doesnt support scanning. network is down
[18:28] <edbian> b3rz3rk3r, This commands tells the system to use the card and scan for available wireless networks.  It does so as root.  I'm trying to see if your user doesn't have permissions
[18:28] <edbian> b3rz3rk3r, It said that for every interface?
[18:28] <aaron11> Hello there my people. I have a problem while running virtual box. The console output can be found here: http://pastebin.com/Zh9NmF9P . I cannot run my vista machine without having an error. Thank you
[18:28] <zteam> Anyone know how to change the loginscreen in ubuntu?
[18:28] <b3rz3rk3r> edbian, yes, save for the network is down part.. thats limited to the wireless
[18:29] <edbian> b3rz3rk3r, What is your card listed as in sudo lspci ??  Perhaps you have the wrong driver in there.
[18:29] <edbian> b3rz3rk3r, That means that card isn't working.  It should have either listed networks or said "none found"
[18:29] <needhelp> http://paste.ubuntu.com/515132/
[18:29] <onaogh> aaron11, install virtualbox-ose-source
[18:30] <b3rz3rk3r> edbian, Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 4965 AG or AGN
[18:30] <demlasjr> edbian: empty edbian....no firewall
[18:30] <aaron11> onaogh, ok
[18:30] <onaogh> aaron11, install updates as well
[18:30] <chiques> Anyone else getting a nasty error message when they try to access http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/wine/94500-serial-ports-in-wine.html ?
[18:30] <edbian> demlasjr, I'm not sure! :(
[18:30] <RingZer0> MS is at it again, atatcking Open Source: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kzdykNa2IBU&feature=player_embedded
[18:30] <aaron11> onaogh, Source is the newest
[18:31] <Dice-Man> chiques, yes
[18:31] <b3rz3rk3r> edbian, the thing is, i tested it with the live cd before installing to make sure that it all worked, and wireless was fine. Now when its installed its not working.
[18:31] <D3RGPS31> how can i put another OS on a virtual partition and boot from it with grub
[18:31] <RingZer0> I can't believe they would mud-sling a free product
[18:31] <Dice-Man> chiques, firefox say it's a malware page
[18:31] <chiques> Dice-Man, what does that mean? I can access the linuxforums.org just fine
[18:31] <onaogh> aaron11, u installed virtualbox-ose-source
[18:31] <onaogh> ?
[18:31] <RingZer0> Open Office must be cutting into their market share.
[18:31] <rreck> can anyone suggest anything about " pciehp 0000:00:1c.0:pcie04: Card present on Slot(0)"  happening constantly?
[18:31] <D3RGPS31> how can i boot to a virtual partition with grub*
[18:31] <edbian> b3rz3rk3r, sudo ifconfig -a
[18:31] <edbian> b3rz3rk3r, You don't have a laptop wifi kill switch right?
[18:31] <mun__> is 10.10 a worthy upgrade from 10.04?
[18:31] <aaron11> onaogh, Incase its important. Im running Backtrack 4 R1 which is based on Ubuntu
[18:31] <onaogh> D3RGPS31, why u want to do so ?
[18:32] <chiques> Dice-Man, you think the forum post has some sort of script that is being detected as malware?
[18:32] <aaron11> onaogh, its alredy installed
[18:32] <D3RGPS31> onaogh: don't want to resize partitions
[18:32] <b3rz3rk3r> edbian, lists the wifi adaptor, i do have a kilswitch and have made sure that its on
[18:32] <Dice-Man> chiques, maybe or the server is infected
[18:32] <aaron11> onaogh, im updating now
[18:32] <onaogh> D3RGPS31, use virtual machine, virtual machines doesn't need u to resize partitions
[18:32] <b3rz3rk3r> edbian, made sure its onwhen booting too since i had issues with that in previous releases
[18:32] <edbian> b3rz3rk3r, sudo iwlist ?
[18:32] <Dice-Man> chiques, you should warn webmasters about it
[18:32] <edbian> b3rz3rk3r, clever.
[18:32] <D3RGPS31> onaogh: i'd like hardware support tyvm :<
[18:33] <soby> /var/log/message file is getting filled with this message  kernel: [ 5826.264991] [18:33] <chiques> Dice-Man, OK. I'll do that. So am I as vulnerable on Ubuntu just as much as I am on in windows?
[18:33] <b3rz3rk3r> edbian, iwlist seems to list everything fine.. scanning and all
[18:33] <khalid> Dr_Willis: hi dr willis just installed ubuntu on my laptop the graphics do not appear onmy laptop screen so im currently using vga adapter and an external monitor to chat. Please kindly help me as i wish to configure ubuntu to run using my laptop screen
[18:33] <edbian> b3rz3rk3r, Can you pastebin our /etc/network/interfaces file (I think I've got it! :) )
[18:34] <onaogh> D3RGPS31, wc & gl
[18:34] <Dice-Man> chiques, huh i would say no, but it's more secure not go on this page
[18:34] <edbian> b3rz3rk3r, What caused it to stop working?
[18:34] <Dice-Man> chiques, i don't the nature of the malware so i cannot say if you are vulnerable or not
[18:34] <forgottenwizard> Is there any way to install a newer version of Ubuntu without upgrading some packages to their newest releaseS?
[18:34] <doublehelixs> does anyone know a program for ubuntu that jailbreaks your itouch for you?
[18:34] <AbhiJit_> what is channel for ubuntu beginer?
[18:34] <chiques> Dice-Man, OK. I appreciate all of your opinions
[18:34] <khalid> Dnew to ubuntu.. just installed ubuntu on my laptop the graphics do not appear onmy laptop screen so im currently using vga adapter and an external monitor to chat. Please kindly help me as i wish to configure ubuntu to run using my laptop screen
[18:35] <marco32> anybody cand help me with nvidia on sonyvaio?
[18:35] <edbian> AbhiJit_, ur in it
[18:35] <AbhiJit_> edbian, no dear
[18:35] <Dice-Man> chiques, :)
[18:35] <b3rz3rk3r> edbian, sure will post now. Not sure why its not working... had windows 7 on here previously, but its too old for games now, so I can put Ubuntu back on it :P
[18:35] <AbhiJit_> therer is separte channel
[18:35] <Ascavasaion> I have all my mails in a mail folder from a previous installation... how do I get it into my current Evolution?
[18:36] <deboerdn2000> Hi
[18:36] <rreck> marco: what kind of help?
[18:36] <zteam> forgottenwizard: Yes you can tell the system to not upgrade some packages BUT then the packages that depend on them will not be upgraded either of course
[18:36] <rreck> marco32: what kind of help?
[18:36] <edbian> b3rz3rk3r, I think you have the wireless interface configured in your /etc/network/interfaces file.  This usually tells nm-applet to ignore that interface.  it would explain why the "network is down" and why the card works but won't let you do anything.
[18:36] <b3rz3rk3r> edbian, the only thing in that file is : auto lo iface lo inet loopback
[18:36] <forgottenwizard> zteam: Nice. Where could I find the docs for this?
[18:36] <edbian> b3rz3rk3r, Damn!
[18:36] <marco32> rreck sony vaio z11z9e and live cd ubuntu 10.10
[18:37] <marco32> live cd works well with my display resolution
[18:37] <onaogh> Ascavasaion, you can overwrite your existing ~/.evolution with the one you already have
[18:37] <khalid> New to ubuntu.. just installed ubuntu on my laptop the graphics do not appear onmy laptop screen so im currently using vga adapter and an external monitor to chat. Please kindly help me as i wish to configure ubuntu to run using my laptop screen
[18:37] <edbian> b3rz3rk3r, look at dmesg, see anything about your wirless in there?  Look closer to the end.  The beginning is very low lever stuff.
[18:37] <b3rz3rk3r> edbian, damn because there is no listing?
[18:37] <edbian> b3rz3rk3r, Yes.  That file isn't the problem like I thought.
[18:37] <ZykoticK9> khalid, do you have a hotkey on your laptop to change displayed (try that first)
[18:38] <dimbos> how to open the port 13?
[18:38] <edbian> b3rz3rk3r, Look at the output dmesg.  Pastebin it if you want me to look at it too
[18:38] <zteam> forgottenwizard: you don't need to...just open synaptic and select a package -> go to package menu lock version
[18:38] <soby> /var/log/message file is getting filled with this message  kernel: [ 5826.264991] [18:38] <mun__> is 10.10 a worthy upgrade from 10.04?
[18:38] <edbian> mun__, I think so
[18:38] <forgottenwizard> zteam: Ok. Thanks
[18:38] <b3rz3rk3r> edbian, got this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/515135/
[18:38] <toyman61> Ubuntu 10.04: Linux replacement software for Replay Media Catcher on Windows ?
[18:38] <khalid> ZykoticK9: tried hotkey but still nothing appears on laptop display
[18:38] <hmnsh18> hi
[18:39] <zteam> forgottenwizard: but remember any packages that depend on the packages you lock and theire dependycs will not be upgraded
[18:39] <edbian> b3rz3rk3r, Can you show me some more stuff around that?  There are no errors.  Only basic "I found this hardware" type messages
[18:39] <doublehelixs> so...
[18:39] <b3rz3rk3r> edbian, sure il paste more
[18:39] <hmnsh18> I have two operation syatem Window XP and Ubuntu , my doubt is how to add windows XP options ..
[18:39] <hmnsh18> in boot option
[18:40] <khalid> have not installed nvidia drivers yet im not sure if i am suppose to
[18:40] <b3rz3rk3r> edbian, http://paste.ubuntu.com/515136/
[18:40] <onaogh> hmnsh18, u have to let grub scan for other os
[18:40] <alexs> Has anyone figured out a sensible way to configure trackpoint stuff?
[18:40] <dimbos> how to open a port in Ubuntu 10.10?
[18:40] <kenneth> aarrrrrrg
[18:40] <kenneth> why is it autoconnecting me?
[18:41] <edbian> b3rz3rk3r, Sorry to have you keep doing this.  What comes before line 1 here?
[18:41] <b3rz3rk3r> edbian, thats everything i can find relating to wifi... i can pate the whole lot if you want?
[18:41] <b3rz3rk3r> edbian, np.. thanks for helping :) doing it now
[18:41] <edbian> b3rz3rk3r, Yeah why not.  Show me everything
[18:41] <zteam> dimbos: sudo aptitude install gufw
[18:42] <zteam> dimbos: now you have a easy gui to open your ports with
[18:42] <b3rz3rk3r> edbian, here is everything: http://paste.ubuntu.com/515138/
[18:42] <fireboi> Guys
[18:42] <zteam> dimbos: under system-> administration -> ubuntu firewall or something like that
[18:42] <fireboi> i trashed my HDD by trying to intall WUBI on a raid stup
[18:42] <dimbos> zteam, thanks a lot! i'll try this
[18:42] <fireboi> help
[18:42] <anish__> !grub
[18:43] <zteam> !gdm
[18:43] <fireboi> i trashed my HDD by trying to intall WUBI on a raid setup
[18:43] <fireboi> raid 0
[18:43] <fireboi> hdds i mean
[18:43] <pwillz> im about to trash the unity bullshit
[18:43] <pwillz> lol
[18:43] <edbian> b3rz3rk3r, You're using wired right now?
[18:43] <b3rz3rk3r> edbian, yeah, since wifi doesnt work :P
[18:44] <edbian> b3rz3rk3r, When did this start happening?
[18:44] <b3rz3rk3r> edbian, fresh install today of 10.10
[18:44] <zteam> fireboi: if you fucked ud your partition you can always try testdisk
[18:44] <noob-tux> i'm having problem with banshee...does anyone knows how to add music playlist? by folder? i tot i could just drag n drop....
[18:44] <fireboi> yeah, im sorta new to ubuntu
[18:44] <MiMe> How should I remove my idea from Ubuntu Brainstorm?
[18:45] <fireboi> whats testdisk
[18:45] <Rexl> Anyone know why I cant seem to install 32bit Ubuntu server on ION 330 system?
[18:45] <edbian> b3rz3rk3r, and it worked on the cd...
[18:45] <b3rz3rk3r> edbian, yeah thats the really weird part
[18:45] <chiques> I'm using a WINE application which only communicates using 'COM#' ports. How can I map this to tty ports in ubuntu?
[18:45] <IdleOne> !language | zteam
[18:46] <zteam> fireboi: Testdisk is a program that let's you fix damaged partition tables, and some basic filesystem errors
[18:46] <fireboi> Zteam: my HDDs arent even dtected
[18:46] <b3rz3rk3r> edbian, if i remember right, 9.10 worked out the box with my wifi.. so i might just go back to that if we cant fix this
[18:46] <aaron11> onaogh, Ok i updated but still the same thing
[18:46] <edbian> b3rz3rk3r, remind me, scanning listed wireless networks?
[18:47] <edbian> b3rz3rk3r, sudo iwlist scan    that is?
[18:47] <onaogh> aaron11, the error msg i checked also said that u have to update the kernel, can u "uname -r" and let me see
[18:47] <fireboi>  <fireboi> Zteam: my HDDs arent even dtected
[18:47] <b3rz3rk3r> edbian, cant scan anything, because the card wont enable to do so
[18:47] <zteam> fireboi: Do you mean that you can't see your disk from BIOS for example?
[18:47] <fireboi> i can see one
[18:47] <fireboi> but it says
[18:47] <aaron11> onaogh, 2.6.34
[18:48] <b3rz3rk3r> edbian, interface doesnt support scanning.. network down
[18:48] <edbian> b3rz3rk3r, What does it say?  network is down?
[18:48] <b3rz3rk3r> edbian, yeah
[18:48] <fireboi> Speeding HDD broken
[18:48] <onaogh> aaron11, can u send me the link to your paste
[18:48] <onaogh> the first one
[18:49] <StaRetji1> folks, how to add user to admin group?
[18:49] <magicianlord> Good afternoon, sirs.
[18:49] <WolfDogDesigns> Hi all. If im running a command to open a graphical program (evince in this case). But the script is run as root, and not within the X session, what do I add to the command to get it to open under the user <x> and in the X display?
[18:49] <zteam> fireboi: what?? if bios tells you, that your harddisk are broken, that's not caused by Ubuntu
[18:49] <StaRetji1> I mean, I have a user test, I want it to be admin
[18:49] <rreck> how can i search menuconfig for something?
[18:49] <magicianlord> StaRetji1: gpasswd -a USERNAME group
[18:49] <aaron11> http://pastebin.com/Zh9NmF9P
[18:49] <fireboi> no, my drives stopped being detected after a WUBI install
[18:49] <zaxonspox> WolfDogDesigns, ju┼╝ type "sudo <app_name>
[18:49] <edbian> b3rz3rk3r, thinking...
[18:49] <zaxonspox> WolfDogDesigns, * just
[18:50] <edbian> b3rz3rk3r, sudo ifup wlan0
[18:50] <b3rz3rk3r> edbian, if it helps, can i give you guest remote desktop access?
[18:50] <StaRetji1> magicianlord: thx, does it mean gpasswd -a test admin ?
[18:50] <b3rz3rk3r> edbian, Ignoring unknown interface wlan0=wlan0
[18:50] <StaRetji1> magicianlord: or test root
[18:50] <WolfDogDesigns> zaxonspox, sudo runs as the user with admin privilages. .. the script is being run as root, i need it to open as from a normal user. .. can you sudo to a normal user?
[18:51] <mun__> is 10.10 a worthy upgrade from 10.04?
[18:51] <celldweller1591> ye
[18:51] <onaogh> aaron11, sudo apt-get isntall linux-headers-`uname -r`
[18:51] <onaogh> aaron11, sudo /etc/init.d/vboxdrv setup
[18:51] <celldweller1591> mun__: yes
[18:51] <onaogh> That should get you the proper headers for your kernel version. From the error in your logs it appears that your not running the generic kernel.
[18:51] <WolfDogDesigns> zaxonspox, also, in the current display, else I get 'Cannot open display'
[18:51] <zteam> fireboi: Ubuntu, cannot damage your hardware, but if I were you, I go and download the harddrive manufacters disk testing tool
[18:51] <mun__> celldweller1591, but it seems there are only updates to the theme, volume changer.
[18:52] <_doswell_> is there a directory somewhere for commands here?
[18:52] <celldweller1591> well, if we talk about stability and bugs, 10.10 is way better
[18:52] <aaron11> onaogh, linux-headers-2.6.34 is already the newest version.
[18:53] <edbian> b3rz3rk3r, I don't know what else to try.  I'm sorry!
[18:53] <onaogh> ok then setup the vboxdev
[18:53] <edbian> Good luck
[18:53] <celldweller1591> 2.6.35-22 is there..download and install it
[18:53] <onaogh> aaron11, sudo /etc/init.d/vboxdrv setup
[18:53] <centos-user-az1> good night every one
[18:53] <aaron11> onaogh, * Usage: /etc/init.d/vboxdrv {start|stop|restart|status}
[18:54] <b3rz3rk3r> edbian, haha.. thats ok mate. Really appreciate you trying so hard. What do you suggest, should i keep going back through my archives of releases until iget one that works again and then update form there?
[18:54] <fireboi> no I think it was a messed up WUBI install that broke everything
[18:54] <hmnsh18> !grub
[18:54] <fireboi> fo rm
[18:54] <ChogyDan> aaron11: why are you using 2.6.34?
[18:54] <edbian> b3rz3rk3r, I suspect that 9.10 will work flawlessly
[18:54] <onaogh> ChogyDan, he is using BT4, and i think BT4 is using modified kernel
[18:55] <onaogh> Customized kernel in other words
[18:55] <WolfDogDesigns> can anyone help? id be happy not running as a separate user, but what can I add to a command to specify the current X display? (if command is run from outside X)
[18:55] <ChogyDan> onaogh: ah, ok
[18:55] <b3rz3rk3r> edbian, there isnt a rollback feature that i remember though.. so if i install that and it works fine, and then i update and it breaks.. i would have to reinstall again?
[18:55] <BUGabundo> hi everyone
[18:56] <aaron11> ChogyDan, yes
[18:56] <noob-tux> OMG nobody cares? how can i put a playlist on my banshee? anyone?
[18:56] <zteam> WolfDogDesigns: to run a command as another user, you can sudo -u username command
[18:57] <aaron11> onaogh, any more ideas?
[18:57] <arkhangelsk> čĆčāčüčüą║ąŠčÅąĘčŗčćąĮčŗąĄ ąĄčüčéčī?
[18:57] <zteam> noob-tux: what do you wanna do with banshee?
[18:58] <WolfDogDesigns> zteam, i get 'sudo: no tty present and no askpass program specified' (im running the command from a PHP script)
[18:58] <noob-tux> zteam: i want to put a music i got 1 folder full of music but i can't do drag n drop...how can i add music to banshee with 1 folder?
[18:58] <deadroot> hello all
[18:58] <cookiemad> hi
[18:59] <b3rz3rk3r> noob-tux, just go to File and then add the folder form there
[18:59] <b3rz3rk3r> from*
[18:59] <celldweller1591> hi
[18:59] <deadroot> i'm having a problem with my Makefile. for some reason, it's not expanding the "-I$(JAVA_HOME)/include"
[18:59] <deadroot> this despite "source /etc/environment" and testing for the $JAVA_HOME variable
[18:59] <zteam> noob-tux: media -> import media -> from folder
[19:00] <venky10> Hi. How can I convert 3gp audio file to mp3 or ogg??
[19:00] <zteam> noob-tux: quite easy don't you think? :p
[19:00] <onaogh> aaron11, o.O no,
[19:00] <deadroot> venky10: try using ffmpeg
[19:00] <as_> hi
[19:00] <qwertyjustin> hello, i've setup shares between both my ubuntu box and my xp box - but am not allowed access to reach shares from eitherbox, unable to mount or simply connect, any help?
[19:00] <onaogh> aaron11, http://georgia.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1278005
[19:00] <as_> i m a newby
[19:00] <Nisstyre65> WolfDogDesigns: when you run a command from a php script there is no terminal, that's why you get that error
[19:00] <as_> here
[19:01] <zteam> WolfDogDesigns: I have no idea, how bash commands works from php
[19:01] <onaogh> venky10, u can use pitivi
[19:01] <venky10> deadroot: yeah. I downloaded ffmpeg. But I see a ton of options. Not sure which to use
[19:01] <as_> can someone please tell me how can i download movies
[19:01] <noob-tux> zteam: I LOVE YOU! thanx for the help
[19:01] <FIReun> is there a atom specific built kernel?
[19:01] <venky10> onaogh: pitivi. never heard of it. will try
[19:01] <cookiemad> I have Skype 2.1 open now, but its not signing in. Can someone help?
[19:01] <aeon-ltd> !ot | as_
[19:01] <onaogh> venky10, sudo apt-get install pitivi
[19:01] <deadroot> venky10: yeah, that's a problem with ffmpeg
[19:01] <onaogh> venky10, it is installed by default on ubuntu 10.10
[19:01] <zteam> noob-tux: Your welcome :-)
[19:02] <venky10> onaogh: I'm using hardy :)
[19:02] <FIReun> any compelling reason to run 32bit ubuntu vs 64bit on a new dual core atom proc system?
[19:02] <FIReun> I would think the 64bit would get a slight lead in performance on the atom over the 32bit (and lord knows it needs all the help it can get)
[19:02] <FIReun> but flash is not nearly as usable
[19:03] <onaogh> qwertyjustin, both PCs on same LAN ?
[19:03] <edbian> FIReun, The performance boost is minimal.
[19:03] <FIReun> edbian: yes, but I'll take 5%
[19:03] <onaogh> qwertyjustin, ubuntu got firewall enabled ?
[19:03] <drmessano> FIReun, some of the 64-bit applications are still a little flaky.. Flash being a good example... though the latest alpha is pretty stable
[19:03] <ChogyDan> FIReun: have you compared conservative vs ondemand cpu governers?
[19:03] <Pilif12p> on 10.10 why do i have Fspot and Shotwell?
[19:03] <edbian> FIReun, The point of 64bit is to allows the use of more than 32.Gb of ram.  Besides general stability (the 64 bit software is not as well tested) there is not advantage to 32 bit
[19:04] <pollywog> I suddenly lost sound yesterday in Lucid.  How do I begin diagnosing this problem?  I have not uninstalled anything
[19:04] <Gerwin> Pilif12p: So you can try Shotwell if you want to, but can keep using F-Spot if you don't like it.
[19:04] <qwertyjustin> onaogh: is gufw the official ubuntu firewall?
[19:04] <magicianlord> edbian: it's also faster
[19:04] <FIReun> edbian: I read that the PAE stuff in a 32bit system to allow for ~4G and greater ram adds a slight overhead penalty
[19:04] <edbian> FIReun, yes
[19:04] <Pilif12p> can i remove one of them?
[19:04] <edbian> magicianlord, 64bit is slightly faster
[19:04] <FIReun> edbian: and so for a low power system to begin with, 64bit seems the most efficient choice
[19:04] <_doswell_> is there a date that "ubuntu !).!) will come out as a update on "ubuntu 10.04?
[19:04] <edbian> Pilif12p, You can remove any package you like! :)
[19:05] <onaogh> qwertyjustin, gufw is the front end to ufw, yes, ufw is built in ubuntu, but by default it is disabled, check whether it is enabled or no
[19:05] <magicianlord> yes. if you have a 64-bit processor, install 64-bit ubuntu.
[19:05] <onaogh> qwertyjustin, are both computers on same lan ?
[19:05] <magicianlord> do not worry about flash. flash is evil.
[19:05] <deadroot> does anybody know why my $JAVA_HOME variable isn't being expanded?
[19:05] <FIReun> I've also heard the kernel in ubuntu 10.10 2.6.35 has shown terrible drops for atom based system performance
[19:05] <galerien> but usefull
[19:05] <onaogh> deadroot, expanded means ?
[19:05] <zteam> doswell: it's already out
[19:05] <qwertyjustin> onaogh: gufw is disabled
[19:05] <k-rad> when will the next ubuntu kernel be released for maverick ?
[19:05] <pollywog> how do I determine why my aduio stopped working in Lucid?
[19:06] <magicianlord> FIReun: i run it on atom-based systems
[19:06] <onaogh> qwertyjustin, what error msg u get when you try to access shares from either pc ?
[19:06] <as_> hi can  u help
[19:06] <edbian> pollywog, dmesg is a good place to start looking for general problems of any kind.
[19:06] <pollywog> running from a console does not show errors
[19:06] <magicianlord> what drops are you referring to? 35 kernel is generally more responsive
[19:06] <as_> me
[19:06] <pollywog> ty
[19:06] <theshadow> My friend is getting this exact bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/430620 which wouldn't be an issue except that each time it happens the whole laptop locks up and has to be rebooted. It happens at least two or three times a week which is just a bit annoying. Does anyone have any workarounds for the time being?
[19:06] <Gerwin> pollywog: You could start by checking dmesg and the logs in /var/log/messages
[19:06] <ChogyDan> k-rad: I think the kernel is set
[19:06] <k-rad> magicianlord, i've never understood the hype over such low powered processors
[19:06] <_doswell_> Zteam, thank you.
[19:06] <deadroot> "-I$(JAVA_HOME)/include" in the Makefile is becoming "-I/include" instead of "-I/usr/lib/jvm/java-6-sun/include"
[19:06] <aeon-ltd> as_: is it about movies? then go to !ot
[19:06] <edbian> theshadow, use an older kernel
[19:06] <FIReun> magicianlord: http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=linux_2635_fail&num=1
[19:06] <qwertyjustin> onaogh:  on ubuntu "unable to mount location" - when i click on the windows network folder
[19:06] <k-rad> ChogyDan, there was a patch that was just released 4 days ago that i assume i will only get next kernel release
[19:07] <qwertyjustin> and on xp - i need admin privys from the ubuntu box it tells me
[19:07] <deadroot> onaogh: "-I$(JAVA_HOME)/include" in the Makefile is becoming "-I/include" instead of "-I/usr/lib/jvm/java-6-sun/include"
[19:07] <ChogyDan> k-rad: true, true.  That kernel will show up in the next release
[19:07] <zteam> doswell:launch the update-manager and go to setting and change it to regular distrubutions
[19:07] <FIReun> magicianlord: granted, that was in may, but I havnt found any follow up to prove its a non issue now.
[19:07] <zteam> doswell:and it should offer you to upgrade
[19:07] <onaogh> deadroot, $JAVA_HOME undefined ?
[19:07] <deadroot> it is defined
[19:07] <magicianlord> FIReun: what issue is it exactly?
[19:07] <theshadow> edbian: exactly how old? this bug appears to have been ocuring since 2009... that would be quite a rollback.
[19:08] <deadroot> it used to work fine on previous runs
[19:08] <onaogh> deadroot, #bash
[19:08] <pollywog> I am going to try rebooting with the older kernel and see if that fixes sound
[19:08] <edbian> theshadow, That is old but you asked for a work around.
[19:08] <deadroot> the only real difference that i am aware of is that i'm now building it in "sudo screen"
[19:08] <k-rad> those atom processors that you see everywhere, one wouldn't run gnome on it eh ?
[19:08] <FIReun> magicianlord: whats the question?
[19:08] <edbian> k-rad, I run gnome on one.
[19:08] <deadroot> onaogh: okay. thanks :)
[19:09] <edbian> k-rad, I run Ubuntu netbook edition but I've run normal ubuntu on it with no problems.
[19:09] <k-rad> edbian, their appeal is solely their low price ?
[19:09] <aaron11> onaogh, would installing the older version work?
[19:09] <theshadow> edbian: well I'm not entirely sure rolling back three releases is a useful work around. At that point they might as well go back to windows.
[19:09] <k-rad> i guess netbooks can't be custom built, well can, but rarely done
[19:09] <edbian> k-rad, They are weaker, get less hot, and are cheaper.  They're not so slow that they can't run linux though.  Ubuntu could run on a pII or pI.  Puppy Linux could run on some really old sh*t
[19:09] <FIReun> k-rad: depends on the system
[19:10] <vozmem> I cannot load cpufreq_userspace in ubuntu 10.10, helpppppppppppppp
[19:10] <FIReun> puppy linux stinks like it too
[19:10] <edbian> theshadow, Yeah I understand.  Good luck finding something! (rolling back the kernel does not necessarily mean rolling back the entire release btw)
[19:10] <vozmem> I cannot load cpufreq_userspace module in ubuntu 10.10, helpppppppppppppp
[19:10] <magicianlord> what is your issue with the new kernel? I
[19:10] <FIReun> magicianlord: just what is stated in the phoronix article
[19:10] <vozmem> I cannot load cpufreq_userspace module in ubuntu 10.10
[19:10] <magicianlord> IIm' running it on three systems Ubuntu and other distro, and it's good
[19:11] <magicianlord> i didnt read that
[19:11] <onaogh> deadroot, can u send me the script ?
[19:11] <vozmem> I want to use that module with cpupowerd
[19:11] <crimsun> vozmem: that's because it doesn't exist for 10.10
[19:11] <k-rad> i'm using docky, and the only reason i choose docky was because i read somehow it was tied to gnome-do.  i've not begun to learn gnome-do, and am not happy it disappears until i call for it, though i'll learn that shortcut soon enough.  is there a definitely ubuntu dock that clearly beats them all ?
[19:11] <vozmem> I try to install but it forms non-exist
[19:12] <onaogh> aaron11, for BT4 related issues, join #remote-exploit
[19:13] <magicianlord> FIReun: i dont see any real issues
[19:13] <vozmem> crimsun: I try to install but "E: Unable to locate package cpufreq_userspace"
[19:13] <deadroot> onaogh: the makefile?
[19:13] <FIReun> magicianlord: YMMV -- what atom system do you run?
[19:14] <vozmem> Anyone used to cpupowerd?
[19:14] <magicianlord> atom 1.6
[19:14] <crimsun> vozmem: there is no such package.
[19:14] <FIReun> magicianlord: I was pulling the 10.10 iso down in prep for the system I get tomorrow, when I came across that mention of the 2.6.35 kernel showing degredation on atom based systems
[19:14] <cookiemad> How do I install and setup Compiz with a transparent desktop cube and rotating cogs in the middle?
[19:14] <k-rad> what gnome dock would Mr. Shuttleworth use ?  :)
[19:14] <FIReun> magicianlord: so I canceled the dl, and started the 10.04 iso, figuring I could "upgrade" if it turned out to be nothing
[19:14] <vozmem> crimsun: but in the forums, they said there
[19:14] <onaogh> deadroot, i dont know bash scripting, but if variable declared in user space (the path to $JAVA_HOME), can another user access it ?
[19:15] <onaogh> deadroot, try to export $JAVA_HOME path in /etc/profile or /etc/bash.bash
[19:15] <magicianlord> FIReun: i dont know what issues htere are, but i run ARch and Ubuntu 10.10 on atom systems and they are fine.
[19:15] <venky10> I see only 3gp2 encoder with ffmpeg -formats. Since I need to convert 3gp2 to mp3, I'll need a decoder, right?
[19:15] <deadroot> the variable is in /etc/environment, that's not at the top?
[19:15] <bugaloo> hi people... how can I make my firefox on ubuntu 10.04 open pdf files on browser? Everytime I try to open a website that contains a embedded pdf, it shows a dialog asking for download or open with an external pdf viewer. Is there a way to open it on firefox itself?
[19:15] <onaogh> yep it is
[19:16] <k-rad> can you truely replace a monitor, keyboard, and mouse using sofware on both a ubuntu box and a windows xp box (for itunes).  without a kvm ?
[19:16] <onaogh> deadroot, then check if it exists there, becoz for me, it doesnt
[19:16] <uLinux> how do I kill pulseaudio permanently?
[19:17] <deadroot> it does. i personally added it and tested it
[19:17] <FIReun> magicianlord: would you notice a 20% increase in bzip compression times?
[19:17] <crimsun> uLinux: as in remove it or as in prevent it from respawning?
[19:17] <uLinux> crimsun: just want to disble temporarily
[19:17] <k-rad> bugaloo, the acrobat reader and plugins should fix that though i didn't have success getting those to work.  myself, i could careless if my pdf reader isn't open source as long as it did the job and didn't cost me anything.
[19:17] <simion314> hi, i have a static IP, i setup the /etc/network/interfaces but i have problems seting the DNS. i created the /etc/resolv.conf  and set it up, but i am missing something? i should remove the networkmanager first?
[19:17] <deadroot> i'm going to try another couple of runs. one outside of "sudo screen" and another in "sudo screen"
[19:17] <FFForever> How do I install the sun java6 + browser plugins?
[19:18] <magicianlord> FIReun: no, i hardly compress on hte netbook. wouldnt really matter to me
[19:18] <crimsun> uLinux: echo autospawn=no >> ~/.pulse/client.conf && killall pulseaudio
[19:18] <magicianlord> and i use 7zip
[19:18] <onaogh> FFForever, Applications -> Ubuntu Software Center -> Third Party software
[19:18] <onaogh> FFForever, u can find java jre there
[19:18] <FIReun> magicianlord: and so maybe 2.6.35 actually isnt an issue for you.
[19:18] <deadroot> it's going to take at least six hours though. so thanks for the help onaogh ^_^
[19:18] <onaogh> FFForever, for firefox addons, addons.firefox.net or come
[19:18] <onaogh> com*
[19:19] <bugaloo> k-rad, it costs to me... I have to access a website with several pages in pdf, but the button on the website only "change the page" showing only one page at the time... so I have to download a pdf everytime I change the page... it's a website bad stuff, I know... but I have to use it
[19:19] <FIReun> magicianlord: I'm setting up a new system, so I'm overthinking every choice (:
[19:19] <Pilif12p> addons.mozilla.org
[19:19] <onaogh> deadroot, glade to be of help, although i dont know anything about scripting
[19:19] <k-rad> bugaloo, add a dns-nameservers to your /etc/network/interfaces, note however, i do not have the knowledge how to define more than one nameserver
[19:19] <FFForever> onaogh, I want the firefox java plugin (not on addons.firefox.com)
[19:19] <uLinux> crimsun: tks
[19:19] <onaogh> FFForever, Applications -> Ubuntu Software Center -> Third Party software
[19:19] <magicianlord> yeah
[19:19] <magicianlord> if you are going for ubuntu, go with 10.10
[19:19] <magicianlord> the newer software is worth it
[19:19] <k-rad> bugaloo, you can also set that to <IP_ADDRESS> and use dnsmasq for cached dns lookups
[19:20] <magicianlord> although ubuntu is a secondary 'trial' distro for me
[19:20] <bugaloo> k-rad, ??
[19:20] <FIReun> magicianlord: what newer software specificially?
[19:20] <k-rad> bugaloo, i thought i was right
[19:20] <FFForever> onaogh, I don't see Third Party software
[19:20] <FIReun> magicianlord: I'm running 10.04 already
[19:20] <magicianlord> FIReun: updated vlc etc
[19:20] <FIReun> magicianlord: i tried 10.04 beta, but it was too buggy at the time
[19:20] <FIReun> er, 10.10 beta
[19:20] <k-rad> FIReun, it runs like a charm now
[19:20] <soreau> cookiemad: Ask in #compiz
[19:21] <FIReun> k-rad: are you using dual monitors from DVI?
[19:21] <deadroot> FFForever: "sudo apt-get install sun-java6-jdk" "sudo update-java-alternatives -s java-6-sun"
[19:21] <onaogh> FFForever, from the left pan, click "Get Software", then click "Cononical Partners"
[19:21] <deadroot> FFForever: although you probably want to replace the jdk with a simple runtime
[19:21] <k-rad> FIReun, i am not.  i have dvi to hdmi cable i never use though
[19:21] <deadroot> i think that would help
[19:21] <FFForever> deadroot, E: Package 'sun-java6-jdk' has no installation candidate
[19:22] <deadroot> FFForever: you're on 10.10?
[19:22] <FFForever> deadroot, yeah.
[19:22] <FIReun> k-rad: I had issues with setting up dual monitors, 10.04 "just worked"
[19:22] <k-rad> FFForever, the maverick user guide is really helpful for things like that
[19:22] <k-rad> FIReun, ATI or Nvidia ?
[19:22] <deadroot> ah. that would require editing the sources.list to enable the restricted stuff
[19:22] <FIReun> k-rad: ATI
[19:22] <FIReun> I wish apt had a "downgrade" option
[19:22] <deadroot> FFForever: i am not sure if you should follow my advice then
[19:23] <FFForever> onaogh, I have provided by ubuntu, canonical partners, for purchase, google
[19:23] <k-rad> FIReun, then look under system-preferences-monitors, it'll let you use both
[19:23] <FIReun> k-rad: but the new box is nvidia
[19:23] <deadroot> it seems that sun's java is being replaced by openjdk or something. i am not clear on the current java situation
[19:23] <onaogh> cononical partners FFForever
[19:23] <k-rad> sun-java6- etc worked for me i think
[19:23] <jeltsch> How can I set an environment variable for a GNOME session?
[19:24] <k-rad> i'm simply an enduser not a developer
[19:24] <n0x> Hi all!  Does anyone know a good website that explain how to configure xorg.conf?  I use 10.10 on laptop with intel i5-520m with dual monitor (Laptop + HDMI as a second monitor) please!  I wanna make sure Intel driver options are enabled...
[19:24] <jeltsch> .profile doesnŌĆÖt seem to work, although I thought it should.
[19:24] <FFForever> onaogh, Fluendo codecs to decode mp3 is the only thing in it
[19:24] <onaogh> FFForever, update your synaptics
[19:24] <lucas_> I have a ASUS 1005 PE Netbook and yesterday I installed the 10.10 Netbook version. My problem is when I try to change the brightness of the screen, the levels are not progressive, the most bright position is close to the middle of the knob. is it a already known issue?
[19:24] <k-rad> n0x what release of ubuntu are you using ?
[19:24] <onaogh> FFForever, sudo apt-get update
[19:24] <FFForever> onaogh, already did plenty of times
[19:24] <FIReun> deadroot: sun/oracle is all going sideways.. major changes for openoffice for one, google is getting irked at oracles changes in relation to java... its all hitting the fan so to speak
[19:24] <n0x> 10.10
[19:24] <n0x> k-rad   10.10
[19:24] <FFForever> onaogh, do I need to enable the partner repository?
[19:25] <dp_> jelt: .profile is executed at logon
[19:25] <onaogh> jeltsch, export PATH=$PATH:/path/to/dir
[19:25] <k-rad> n0x, boot into safe mode, and have it reconfigure your xserver hold CTRL to get the grub menu if it doesn't automagically display itself
[19:25] <jeltsch> onaogh: In which file?
[19:25] <onaogh> FFForever, universe and multiverse has to be enabled
[19:25] <deadroot> FIReun: thanks. fun situation to be in...
[19:25] <k-rad> n0x if it asks any questions, choose, create generic profile
[19:25] <jeltsch> .profile is *not* executed. IŌĆÖ testet it.
[19:25] <k-rad> n0x, then get out of there, and resume boot
[19:26] <jeltsch> I use 10.4.
[19:26] <FFForever> onaogh, they are enabled =\
[19:26] <n0x> its gonna create a xorg.conf.new file?
[19:26] <onaogh> jeltsch, if u want to be system wide, use /etc/bash.bash or /etc/environment
[19:26] <FIReun> deadroot: may you live in interesting times
[19:26] <alex__> heloll
[19:26] <jeltsch> onaogh: I want to be ŌĆ£user wideŌĆØ.
[19:26] <alex__> priv
[19:26] <rww> FFForever: Yes, you need to enable the partner repository for Sun Java.
[19:26] <n0x> thx k-rad
[19:26] <onaogh> jeltsch, use ~/.bashrc
[19:26] <deadroot> not so for me. never liked java and stayed out of it. ^_^
[19:26] <dp_> http://www.tux.org/~mayer/linux/book/node217.html
[19:26] <jeltsch> onaogh: I have tried this, it doesnŌĆÖt work.
[19:26] <FIReun> deadroot: its in everything
[19:26] <k-rad> n0x, it will create a working ubuntu speced file i dont know proper computer jargon for your video card and maverick
[19:26] <FIReun> deadroot: like it or not (:
[19:26] <k-rad> its simply /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[19:27] <FFForever> rww, thanks, I found java in it.
[19:27] <jeltsch> onaogh: Okay, it works in shells I start in a terminal.
[19:27] <n0x> ty
[19:27] <jeltsch> But not in desktop apps.
[19:27] <k-rad> hope that works
[19:27] <lucas_> I have a ASUS 1005 PE Netbook and yesterday I installed the 10.10 Netbook version. My problem is when I try to change the brightness of the screen, the levels are not progressive, the most bright position is close to the middle of the knob. is it a already known issue?
[19:27] <onaogh> jeltsch, it works, or it doesn't work ?!!
[19:27] <taylorsmith246> Im having trouble install ubuntu on my mac. I try to boot from the CD, but it wont recognize it.
[19:27] <magicianlord> lucas_: that's a bios issue
[19:27] <onaogh> taylorsmith246, which mac u are having ?
[19:27] <n0x> everything works on default. but i wanna be able to configure with a xorg.conf.. to make sure :)
[19:28] <taylorsmith246> i have a PowerBook G4.
[19:28] <k-rad> taylorsmith246, those sometimes have special keyboard control keys that you need to rev up the atapi device
[19:28] <deadroot> FIReun: currently, i have only one application that uses java, and even then it is optional. i'd have axed it if i knew how to build the app without java components. :)
[19:28] <k-rad> taylorsmith246, there should be a powerppc ubuntu channel
[19:28] <onaogh> taylorsmith246, u got to download the version of ubuntu that is made for those processors
[19:28] <jeltsch> onaogh: If I put ŌĆ£export BLA=blubŌĆØ into .bashrc, then every shell I start in a terminal window has BLA set, of course. But an application I start from the application window doesnŌĆÖt.
[19:28] <lucas_> is there a solution?
[19:28] <taylorsmith246> what version would that be?
[19:28] <sudoers200> how ubuntu works on ppc?
[19:28] <lucas_> magicianlord, is there a solution?
[19:29] <k-rad> anyone know how i can make my gnome terminal pretty with colors *&* proper character formatting ?
[19:29] <onaogh> jeltsch, to export to path, use export BLAH=PATH$:/path/to/blah
[19:29] <magicianlord> did you run this in windows and did it have the same issue? my experience is the progression is os independant
[19:29] <magicianlord> you can also set brightness via power management and dont touch it
[19:29] <taylorsmith246> Can i install Ubuntu 10.10 on my PowerPC mac?
[19:29] <onaogh> jeltsch, u have also to relogin
[19:29] <k-rad> taylorsmith246, absolutely a powerppc flavor
[19:30] <jeltsch> onaogh: Of course.
[19:30] <taylorsmith246> how do I get that?
[19:30] <onaogh> jeltsch, ofcourse ?what ?
[19:30] <jeltsch> onaogh: Of course, I have to relogin.
[19:30] <jeltsch> I did so.
[19:30] <savid> hi,  i'm having issues with my laptop battery.  The ubuntu indicator is showing that the battery is fully charged,  however, my docky applet is showing 61.2% charged and it's been like that for several hours (ie, not charging).  What could be the cause of that?
[19:30] <k-rad> if anyone is in Houston i have a imac M5521 that i'm willing to let go of, works fine.  for free (sorry for offtopic)
[19:31] <elias_> hey, how do i get the dvd codecs?
[19:31] <jeltsch> onaogh: But it doesnŌĆÖt work since GDM executes neither .profile nor .bashrc when I log in.
[19:31] <k-rad> elias_, medibuntu
[19:31] <k-rad> elias_, or buy them at canonical store
[19:31] <thevishy> does anyone have experience with PXE boot ?
[19:31] <sudoers200> no need to buy
[19:31] <sudoers200> there are many tutorials
[19:31] <onaogh> where does gdm takes the env vars from ? jeltsch
[19:31] <sudoers200> google will find some
[19:31] <k-rad> as long as your not running a business that is
[19:31] <elias_> k-rad, at the ubuntu softwhere center?
[19:32] <lucas_> magicianlord: ok, i find power management at the bios or is something here
[19:32] <sudoers200> or if ya lazy install Linux Mint
[19:32] <nickrw> savid: could it be showing percentage of original capacity?
[19:32] <ehcah> Can someone help me with this Virtual Box error: Could not create a directory '/media/Virtual OS/Win95' to save the settings file (VERR_ACCESS_DENIED).
[19:32] <elias_> k radioman-lt where
[19:32] <k-rad> elias_, google medibuntu repository the ones you are looking for is libdvdcss2 and you might as well fetch w32codecs
[19:32] <Dr_Willis>  /quit
[19:32] <elias_> thanks
[19:32] <onaogh> 2:30 AM here, zzzZZZZZzzzZZZzz
[19:33] <Dulak> jeltsch: actually .bashrc is executed but by default it exits if the login is non-interactive, if you look at the bashrc the first thing it does is check if the terminal is interactive and bails when it isn't.  Anything you want to happen non-interactive you add above that first operation.
[19:33] <asraniel> hi, is there any known bug with nouveau where x.org suddenly uses 100% cpu?
[19:33] <jeltsch> Dulak: Thanks a lot. IŌĆÖll try.
[19:33] <k-rad> i'm using docky, and the only reason i choose docky was because i read somehow it was tied to gnome-do.  i've not begun to learn gnome-do, and am not happy it disappears until i call for it, though i'll learn that shortcut soon enough.  is there a definitely ubuntu dock that clearly beats them all ?
[19:34] <lucas_> magicioanlord: thanks! it's better now!
[19:34] <Ryen> !best | k-rad
[19:34] <k-rad> what gnome dock would Mr. Shuttleworth use ?  :)
[19:35] <ChogyDan> k-rad: ya, you gota learn the shortcut.  Isn't is ctrl+space or something?
[19:35] <k-rad> everyone install ksplice it'll install security updates in the background without any interaction
[19:35] <k-rad> oui.  i believe it is
[19:35] <ChogyDan> k-rad: the whole point of gnome-do is the shortcut
[19:36] <k-rad> ooh.  thank you
[19:36] <k-rad> :)
[19:37] <AbhiJit> how to check which mysql version i have?
[19:37] <k-rad> here's another tip, if you have redundant ethernet cards, and an extra port on your router, channel bonding really speeds things up
[19:37] <AbhiJit> i installed lamp
[19:38] <ChogyDan> AbhiJit: maybe apt-cache policy mysql-server
[19:38] <Dulak> AbhiJit: run this at a terminal: 'dpkg -l | grep mysql'  and look for the mysql-server package it should have the version as part of the name
[19:38] <k-rad> i'm totally uneducated as to the purpose of mysql other than its function for storing database information for other programs
[19:39] <AbhiJit> ChogyDan, Dulak thanks
[19:39] <gnuskool> Whats better, a format -->full install : or upgrade to 10.10 ??
[19:39] <k-rad> gnuskool, a fresh install will ensure you have the
[19:39] <k-rad> PAE kernel by default
[19:40] <Dulak> gnuskool: depends on if you have /home on a seperate partition really
[19:40] <gnuskool> k-rad: i already boot with pae kernel, any othe deal breakers?
[19:40] <k-rad> gnuskool, when i upgraded, it wreaked havok with permission on all sorts of system hidden config files in my home directory, i however, i adopted early, and simply fetched the final update
[19:41] <satish> hi
[19:41] <k-rad> gnuskool, if your coming from a maverick beta, root permissions and other files might be messed up, if not, ask the official ubuntu resource for that question of which i don't know
[19:42] <Xaifas> I got a problem with my internet connection on ubuntu. For some reason, anything that I do and requires to send/recieve data is very very slow. If i try to access a site has 10secish delay then goes full speed. If i try to ssh, halts for 10secs or so then finaly starts. Anyone who can explain what is causing this?
[19:42] <eboyjr> What are my options for installing Ubuntu on my netbook? I don't have a flash drive available.
[19:42] <k-rad> Xaifas, might be a dns problem check /etc/resolv.conf
[19:42] <aeon-ltd> Xaifas:  disable ipv6?, firewall?
[19:42] <MarderIII> Xiafas: check your dns
[19:42] <Xaifas> ipv6 disabled
[19:42] <k-rad> aeon-ltd, that would not be necessary
[19:42] <Xaifas> firewall off
[19:42] <gnuskool> k-rad: i got lucid, anything important is saved elsewhere so I might go from scratch, i just didnt want to bother if it wasnt necessary
[19:42] <k-rad> keep gufw on
[19:43] <k-rad> gnuskool, then i'm the wrong person to ask
[19:43] <erUSUL> !ipv6 | Xaifas
[19:43] <satish> @CyberSix where r u from?
[19:43] <Xaifas> what exactly do i need to tweek in that file k-rad ?
[19:43] <Xaifas> i have ipv6 turned off erUSUL
[19:43] <k-rad> can you pastebin.ca it ?
[19:43] <Xaifas> sure sec
[19:43] <gnuskool> k-rad: thx anyway
[19:43] <tinuxin> Hi, I have a wireless keyboard with integrated mouse. The mouse is working but not the keyboard, any ideas?
[19:43] <k-rad> tinuxin, are they bluetooth ?
[19:43] <tinuxin> no radio
[19:44] <k-rad> tinuxin, i've never used one of those under ubuntu
[19:44] <Smilodonis> tinuxin: Logitech?
[19:44] <magicianlord> tinuxin: try different port or function buttons
[19:44] <erUSUL> Xaifas: then i dunno; maybe with wireshark or tcpdump you can figure out what is going on ?
[19:44] <k-rad> FSF is trying to setup standards for hardware manufacturers to respect open source magic
[19:44] <doublehelixs> does anyone know how to jailbreak an itouch on ubuntu netbook????
[19:45] <k-rad> doublehelixs, offtopic here
[19:45] <Xaifas> k-rad,  http://pastebin.ca/1965053 here is the link
[19:45] <tinuxin> magicianlord how do i select a different port?
[19:45] <k-rad> doublehelixs, try ubuntuforums.org
[19:45] <doublehelixs> k-rad where do i go?
[19:45] <eboyjr> wc
[19:45] <doublehelixs> k
[19:45] <doublehelixs> isnt this the same thing as the fourms but chatty?
[19:45] <tinuxin> mildonis: No it's no name "from ebay :)"
[19:45] <k-rad> doublehelixs, at least i think it might be on topic
[19:45] <uLinux>  i hear sun java is still better
[19:46]  * uLinux oops
[19:46] <axhyn> Xaifas : have you tried using another browser?
[19:46] <Xaifas> yes axhyn  and its not only web browsing related
[19:46] <Smilodonis> tinuxin: sorry no clue then :(
[19:46] <kpoman> hi all ! guys I have a problem with proxy configuration. i deleted a proxy configuration, set to direct connexion, apply system wide ... then open a terminal, set | grep -i proxy and still see the proxy there
[19:46] <Xaifas> even using irc is slow
[19:46] <demlasjr> guys, there is any way to easy change the internet configuration in ubuntu server ? If I remeber well, before was a graphic interface
[19:46] <Xaifas> takes 10 secs before connecting
[19:46] <k-rad> doublehelixs, i will say, if its not for quick fix, you'd likely regret it someday
[19:46] <demlasjr> something to easy configure it
[19:46] <gianluca> ciao!!!
[19:47] <tinuxin> Anyone got any idea how to debug my wireless keyboard? Where do i start?
[19:47] <erUSUL> demlasjr: editting /etc/network/interfaces ? using a web gui like ebox?
[19:47] <gianluca> !ping
[19:47] <elias_> k radioman-lt ok i downloaded them how do i install
[19:47] <erUSUL> demlasjr: ubuntu server has no gui by default
[19:47] <Xaifas> anything wrong with the file k-rad ?
[19:47] <demlasjr> erUSUL: it was something like midnight commander, 3-4 versions before
[19:47] <gianluca> help
[19:47] <gianluca> !help
[19:48] <gianluca> ?
[19:48] <k-rad> Xaifas, i forgot the question
[19:48] <demlasjr> I have problem with the manual config for network
[19:48] <gianluca> ?help
[19:48] <Xaifas> k-rad, http://pastebin.ca/1965053 told me to paste resolv.conf
[19:48] <demlasjr> I tried automatically into a network and the internet is working
[19:48] <uLinux> !ask | gianluca
[19:48] <demlasjr> with manually settings is not working
[19:48] <erUSUL> demlasjr: a curses gui to configure network ?
[19:48] <demlasjr> yes
[19:48] <gianluca> !ask
[19:49] <gianluca> O.o
[19:49] <k-rad> Xaifas, i may not have the networking expertise you do, however, i've never seen anything like it
[19:49] <demlasjr> erUSUL: yes....something to make the internet working with manuall settings :)
[19:49] <dagon666> tinuxin: whats wrong with it ?
[19:49] <Xaifas> hmm, guess i'll start finding some info starting from that, thanks
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[19:49] <Oxwivi> Hello there, I'm looking for help about Samba and printer sharing.
[19:50] <k-rad> Xaifas, the <IP_ADDRESS> is the ip of your internet connection device, that should not be necessary, are you using a router ?  or direct connection ?
[19:50] <Lymphocyte> Ubuntu sucks major horse cock
[19:50] <erUSUL> !ops | Lymphocyte
[19:50] <Xaifas> router, am using wireless conection
[19:50] <tinuxin> dagon666: it's not working :). It has an integrated mouse which is working but not the keyboard itself!
[19:50] <Xaifas> connection works fine in windows though, dont know whats wrong in ubuntu
[19:50] <shafiq_> Can anyone help me with DVD playback?  I've followed all the help, installed all the appropriate codecs and packages, and still, in vlc, my video, when started, becomes so choppy, it just sticks on one spot.  Any ideas anyone?
[19:51] <k-rad> Xaifas, oh.  do you have working internet at the moment ?
[19:51] <demlasjr> erUSUL: so any idea ?
[19:51] <Xaifas> well im on irc, aint i? means i got internet working
[19:51] <Oxwivi> Samba printer sharing with Windows XP, Vista and 7 simultaneously anyone?
[19:51] <_Valantis_> hi guys
[19:51] <erUSUL> demlasjr: no; sorry. nevfer heard of such a thing. unless maybe wicd-ncurses?
[19:51] <haffe> Oxwivi: Yes?
[19:51] <Xaifas> only problem is anything i start, starts slow
[19:51] <k-rad> Xaifas, good.  and your preference for wifi manager is network-manager-gnome ?
[19:51] <erUSUL> !samba | Oxwivi
[19:51] <_Valantis_> is there a program for ubuntu for wifi ?
[19:52] <Oxwivi> I got everything connected and configured and shared.
[19:52] <_Valantis_> like visualise
[19:52] <_Valantis_> with a graph
[19:52] <Xaifas> no idea about that to be honest
[19:52] <uLinux> I disabled pulseaudio and I realized that Sound applets dont work anymore or is there a fix'
[19:52] <uLinux> ?
[19:52] <_Valantis_> and all the info for the APs found ?
[19:52] <demlasjr> erUSUL: no....:( maybe was other OS....anyway, do you have manual config in your PC ?
[19:52] <Oxwivi> But after restarting Ubuntu, I can't seem to connect to the printer again.
[19:52] <k-rad> Xaifas, who setup that /etc/resolv.conf in the first place
[19:52] <Oxwivi> !samba
[19:52] <k-rad> ?
[19:52] <Xaifas> k-rad,  no one, was there by default
[19:52] <erUSUL> demlasjr: no i use network manager in desktop. but i do know how to edit /etc/network/interfaces
[19:53] <dimbos> i still can't open a port on Ubuntu 10.10.. could you help me, guys?
[19:53] <erUSUL> demlasjr: what do you want to configure?
[19:53] <demlasjr> erUSUL: can I go in pm with you ?
[19:53] <taylorsmith246> Will making a bootable usb drive for ubuntu erase my usb drive?
[19:53] <erUSUL> dimbos: ubuntu does not have firewall by default so if something is listening in a port thaqt port is open
[19:53] <Kofte> hi
[19:53] <axhyn> _Valantis_ : doesn't the system monitor show network activity
[19:54] <taylorsmith246> Will making a bootable usb drive for ubuntu erase my usb drive?
[19:54] <Oxwivi> Samba printer help anyone? TT_TT Try private messaging me, this place is too busy.
[19:54] <k-rad> Xaifas, make a backup of that file change nameservers to <IP_ADDRESS> and <IP_ADDRESS> two lines, then go to a terminal and do sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart.  then use your wifi manager to reconnect and see if that fixes your problem in your wifi manager
[19:54] <__cool__> d
[19:54] <Kofte> Question: Is there any file other than /etc/apt/sources.list where repositories would be listed?
[19:55] <Kofte> I'm looking in that file for something that should be there, but can't find it
[19:55] <taylorsmith246> I'm trying to make a bootable USB drive for ubuntu. Will it erase my usb drive?
[19:55] <Xaifas> all right, trying that now
[19:55] <Dulak> Kofte: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/
[19:55] <Skaperen> taylorsmith246: depends on the method used
[19:55] <k-rad> taylorsmith246, it will and if you want persisitance 4GB is the right size
[19:55] <Kofte> taylorsmith246: I believe it would
[19:56] <Garandir> my mouse is frozen what do I do
[19:56] <Kofte> Dulak: thanks! found what I was looking for.
[19:56] <Skaperen> taylorsmith246: if you are making an install image from the ISO with unetbootin, it should not ... but can fail in many cases
[19:56] <Skaperen> taylorsmith246: other methods pretty much erase the whole USB flash drive
[19:56] <Garandir> What do I do when my mouse is frozen?
[19:57] <pbbbb> d
[19:57] <Skaperen> Garandir: if USB, try unplug and plug back in
[19:57] <magicianlord> Garandir: plug in another mouse
[19:57] <k-rad> i forgot to tell the guy that if it didn't work to restore the backup :/
[19:57] <Goldline> can anyone helpme im importing a .sql file but the .sql file keeps queuering
[19:57] <mrk_> is there a system restore in ubuntu?
[19:57] <Garandir> now it wont turn back on
[19:58] <k-rad> mrk_, no sir
[19:58] <mrk_> k-rad : thanks...so no going back?
[19:58] <Skaperen> mrk_: re-install and rel-load your data from one of the three backups
[19:58] <Garandir> I unplugged it and plugged it back in but now it wont turn on..
[19:58] <Skaperen> Garandir: "turn on" ... was the computer off?
[19:58] <k-rad> mrk_, you can certainly fixed problems that may or may not have been your fault
[19:58] <gnuskool> is there are gnome equivalent to jackd?
[19:59] <Garandir> the mouse. It's like theres no power to
[19:59] <mrk_> Skaperen, thanks
[19:59] <Garandir> to it*
[19:59] <revstray> Hello! I recently upgraded from Lynx to Maverick (UNR) and I am unable to modify the applets bar, is this a feature or a bug? :)
[19:59] <gnuskool> :D
[19:59] <Skaperen> Garandir: is it the kind that should light up underneath but does not now?
[19:59] <Ray2>  Ubuntu Lucid..On booting the following errors...No suitable mode found..unknown command terminal..How do I correct this error
[19:59] <secon> hi everyone, can anyone give me the link to download AES-CTR implementation in C programming language..I've googled but nothing is worked..thank you for your time :)
[19:59] <revstray> er, Lucid to Maverick, sorry. :)
[19:59] <coz_> gnuskool,   did you look in synaptic
[19:59] <Garandir> The mouse wheel is normally illuminated but its now not, and won't work
[19:59] <Skaperen> Garandir: your computer is on and a desktop is showing?
[20:00] <Garandir> Yes..
[20:00] <Xaifas> k-rad, changed the file and did what you said. didnt worked. same thing
[20:00] <Skaperen> Garandir: press Ctrl+Alt+F1 and see if it switches to a text screen
[20:00] <gnuskool> coz, no, but i was hoping for something well tested and used by someone already before installing stuff at random
[20:00] <k-rad> Xaifas, thank god your still here, then restore the old one, and learn your router i can only give you examples of my /etc/network/interfaces and my /etc/resolv.conf for you to learn
[20:00] <Garandir> then what?
[20:00] <magicianlord> How do you make
[20:00] <magicianlord> Ubuntu start into terminal login
[20:00] <coz_> gnuskool,   well I have jack installed here   and it works fine
[20:01] <mrk_> k-rad:  i wanted to go back to before i upgraded to 10.4
[20:01] <k-rad> Xaifas, make note of what your router calls specific things by ip address
[20:01] <magicianlord> prvent X from starting auto
[20:01] <Skaperen> Garandir: if it does or does not determines next step
[20:01] <k-rad> mrk go back to what ?
[20:01] <mrk_> k-rad, the operating system i had, 9.4
[20:01] <k-rad> mrk_, may i ask what distro that was ?
[20:01] <gnuskool> coz_, i heard qt  apps on gnome slow the system down, is it really gonna affect latency and response??
[20:02] <mrk_> k-rad: i don't understand distro
[20:02] <k-rad> mrk_, what precisely is the problem now ?  i forget
[20:02] <coz_> gnuskool,   so if you open synaptic  and hit Search and type in   jackd     I dont see any slow down at all
[20:02] <k-rad> mrk spend some time reading www.ubuntu.com
[20:02] <mrk_> its gecko that fails to initialise on GNOME
[20:02] <mrk_> k-rad, i've spent a lot of time
[20:03] <k-rad> mrk_, are you an english speaker ?
[20:03] <coz_> gnuskool,   I dont see any qu dependecies  with this  but let me check
[20:03] <mrk_> k-rad: yes, why?
[20:03] <k-rad> mrk, please don't be offended by that.  all i can tell you is be patient, learn all you can, what is the operating system from which you hail from at the moment ?
[20:04] <mrk_> k-rad: upgraded 10.4 from previously installed Ubuntu 9.4
[20:04] <coz_> gnuskool,   no I dont see any qt dependecies  here for jack
[20:04] <coz_> in synaptic
[20:04] <Skaperen> Garandir: so did you try it, yet?
[20:04] <k-rad> mrk why didn't you choose 10.10 ?
[20:04] <BobSapp> does ubuntu have any way to mount pictures from your flickr account?
[20:05] <mrk_> k-rad: because 10.4 is LTS
[20:05] <k-rad> mrk oh but 10.10 is LTS
[20:05] <k-rad> mrk i believe you are mistaken
[20:05] <Skaperen> two LTSs in same year?
[20:05] <ddilinger> I'm trying to setup pulseaudio so i can play audio from my PC, and be able to switch it over to the media center PC.  I've checked 'Enable network access to local sound' along with 'Allow other machines in LAN' and 'Don't require authentication'  and restarted pulseaudio on my mediacenter, but the other PC doesn't show up in padevchooser as an option for output.  If i manually set the 'default server' to the name of my media center, still nothi
[20:05] <Skaperen> 10.04 is the LTS
[20:05] <ZykoticK9> k-rad, 10.10 != LTS
[20:05] <mrk_> k-rad: it wasn't then as far as i know...also i'm new to linux
[20:05] <k-rad> maverick is not LTS ?
[20:05] <Oer> k-rad 10.04 is LTS
[20:05] <k-rad> wow
[20:06] <k-rad> i stand corrected
[20:06] <Ray2>  Ubuntu Lucid..On booting the following errors...No suitable mode found..unknown command terminal..How do I correct this error
[20:06] <Skaperen> there is 10.04.1 ... apparently an update of 10.04 ... presumably part of the LTS support process
[20:06] <magicianlord> Skaperen: ye
[20:06] <k-rad> mrk_, what is the partitioning scheme of your hard drive ?
[20:06] <ddilinger> anyone successfully setup networked audio with pulseaudio?
[20:06] <mrk_> k-rad: its all ubuntu
[20:07]  * Skaperen made USB memory stick flash drive images from the 10.04.1 ISOs the other day
[20:07] <KungFuJesus> This is silly, why isn't this bug fixed yet? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/exiv2/+bug/59632
[20:07] <chiapagringo> ***Question for the group***  I am setting up an NFS server, and am ready to mount the shares on the client.  However, I do not know the server name.  Can I use the IP Address of the server to mount the exported shares on the client?
[20:07] <KungFuJesus> err https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/exiv2/+bug/596327
[20:07] <k-rad> mrk do you have an external backup drive or dvd writer ?
[20:07] <avo> Hey all, a while ago I edited some config file to have my lucid desktop boot into a login shell, and then I'd type startx to log directly in (bypassing gdm). I did this because I didn't want to see ugly plymouth and for some other uninportant reasons which can be overlooked now. However, I think i've found a solution to fix the ugly plymouth, and would like to re-enable gdm and not have to login from the command line and hit startx. I don't
[20:07] <avo>  remember which file I edited to cause that to happen.. but I remember it being something about grub and text mode. Any help? THANKS!
[20:07] <ZykoticK9> chiapagringo, yes IPs are fine (it's what I use actually)
[20:08] <tinuxin> Is there any way i can see what my keyboard outputs (or rather how ubuntu interprets it)?
[20:08] <chiapagringo> perfect.  Many thanks.
[20:08] <magicianlord> How do you change the installation directory or drive for applicatinos?
[20:08] <TunnelSnakes> Hey guys, just wondering if there is any TRIM utility that I could use for my OCZ SSD for Ubuntu?
[20:08] <k-rad> mrk_, do you have an external backup drive or dvd writer ?
[20:08] <mrk_> k-rad: no external hard drive,  i have a dvd writer...by the way, the problem existed a year ago and is listed on http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=247040#add_comment
[20:08] <twbd> avo, if you started the editor from the command line you can look in ~/.bash_history if it was a graphical editor you can look in the recently-opened-files of that editor (probably as user root)
[20:08] <avo> twbd, This was a few months ago.
[20:09] <k-rad> mrk_, never devote the entire drive to ubuntu.  i'm not sure why that option exists.  how much memory do you have ?
[20:09] <imanc> hey - i have a problem on 10.4 with my keyboard locking up I'm unable to type at all, but some key combos still work. It happens mainly when I'm using pidgin, but then I try to type in another app and I can't
[20:09] <ZykoticK9> avo, do you have a /etc/init/gdm.conf
[20:09] <ddilinger> TunnelSnakes: i could be mistaken, but id dont believe you do anything for trim.  If the kernel decects trim support it will use it
[20:09] <avo> twbd, I'm pretty sure it was the main grub config file, but I don't know where to find it.
[20:09] <imanc> i then use the mouse to kill a few apps, and then it starts working again
[20:09] <imanc> any ideas what this could be?
[20:09] <avo> ZykoticK9, Nope.
[20:09] <mrk_> k-rad: what is your suggestion?
[20:09] <augdawg> my maverick machine will not update. can anyone help? http://fpaste.org/I64J/
[20:09] <twbd> avo, /boot/grub/grub.cfg maybe? or some file that this file is rendered from
[20:09] <k-rad> mrk_, before i go down that trail, you must backup all your data.  i'd ditch existing config files and only keep valuables
[20:09] <TunnelSnakes> hm alright thanks ddilinger
[20:10] <ZykoticK9> avo, that would be why GDM isn't starting then - did you move it to .disabled by chance?
[20:10] <ChogyDan> augdawg: doesn't look like a problem
[20:10] <mrk_> k-rad: i've nothing too valuable to lose
[20:10] <Ray2>  Ubuntu Lucid..On booting the following errors...No suitable mode found..unknown command terminal..How do I correct this error
[20:10] <mrk_> k-rad; I'M STILL EXPERIMENTING WITH UBUNTU
[20:10] <ddilinger> Any succesfully setup networked audio with pulseaudio? I'm trying to setup pulseaudio so i can play audio from my PC, and be able to switch it over to the media center PC.  I've checked 'Enable network access to local sound' along with 'Allow other machines in LAN' and 'Don't require authentication'  and restarted pulseaudio on my mediacenter, On my  PC the mediacenter doesn't show up in padevchooser as an option for output.  If i manually set
[20:10] <avo> ZykoticK9, I doubt it. I'm almost 99% sure all I did was add a "text" instead of "Graphical" option to _some_ grub config file.. but I don't know exactly which.
[20:10] <giamba> hey
[20:10] <drjo> does ./configure only leave files in the directory im running it from?
[20:11] <ddilinger> drjo: ./configure is a shell script, it can do anything
[20:11] <ZykoticK9> avo, Plymouth and GDM are separate things to disable actually...
[20:11] <augdawg> ChogyDan : it says that it failed to update the repository information. it also tells me t check my internet connection, but it is working fine.
[20:11] <ddilinger> drjo: it could rm -rf / if the person who wrote the script told it to
[20:11] <ChogyDan> augdawg: but none of those repos are vital
[20:11] <avo> ZykoticK9, So I thought too, but I think that one line changing text to graphical must do something more.
[20:11] <drjo> ddilinger: yeah i understand, but the usual behavior?
[20:11] <avo> twbd, Nope. Not that file
[20:12] <ddilinger> drjo: typical behavior various by project, some projects generate makefiles throughout the directory structure
[20:12] <augdawg> i dont know what it is either. it did that yesterday also.
[20:12] <ddilinger> drjo: typically a make distclean will cleanup anything created by a ./configure
[20:12] <ZykoticK9> avo, what is the line GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT= in your /etc/default/grub say?
[20:13] <augdawg> okay thanks ChogyDan
[20:13] <drjo> ddilinger: i deleted the whole folder
[20:13] <k-rad> mrk, say you have 2gb of ram.  then do something like 2500 for swap.  then do a / partition make it ext4 and and choose the 10000 value, the last partition you'd make it will have the rest of the space right there in front of your face, take up the rest of the hard drive space and put /home on it.  you can then choose any release of ubuntu you want, but only keep your valuables and config files in /home/mrk   any reinstalls you can reformat the root part
[20:13] <k-rad> ition which is /.  do not ever format /home   once you do that, you'll have all your config settings and valuables (that you'll only want to backup in the event of hard drive failure) right there in /home use ext4 for / and /home just on reinstall only format / and never /home
[20:13] <avo> ZykoticK9, BINGO! That's the file!
[20:13] <avo> ZykoticK9, It is set to "text"
[20:13] <awnek> Is there an ubuntu cloud channel?
[20:13] <epaphus> Hello. Why is is that ubuntu reports RAM usage as significantly lower in System ->  Administration -> System Monitor... then it does with the free command..???  mayor difference !
[20:13] <avo> ZykoticK9, What's the "normal" setting?
[20:14] <ZykoticK9> avo, GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash"
[20:14] <mrk_> k-rad: it sounds like you are suggesting a fresh installation
[20:14] <ddilinger> mrk_: and the reason you do that is because in an afternoon you can replace the root partition with a re-install, and all your user data is still intact and un-touched, without even having to think about it
[20:14] <k-rad> mrk_, now save what i just wrote to some time of document saver, and start backing up files
[20:14] <ddilinger> mrk_: or if you maybee bought an SSD to replace the main drive, same thing you can replace the root partition without affecting user data
[20:14] <avo> ZykoticK9, Yup. Just found it on the grub 2 ubuntu page. Thanks so much! I'll let you know how it goes!
[20:15] <k-rad> mrk_, only after you've backed up your data. but yes.  never choose ubuntu to use the entire drive  that might only be for drunken kicks on a drive you'd never wan't to retain for the future
[20:15] <mrk_> k-rad: and ddilinger,  i don't need to save user data
[20:15] <twbd> epaphus, maybe one of the two includes disk cache and the other not
[20:15] <ddilinger> mrk_: everyone wants to preserve user data, even if they think they dont
[20:15] <happyface> I'm trying to help someone remotely but the remote desktop isn't configuring UPnP on the other line. What can I do?
[20:15] <ddilinger> mrk_: otherwise, throw an rm -rf /home/* into /etc/cron.daily
[20:16] <k-rad> mrk_, you'll not only be preserving your user data but also your gnome config settings
[20:16] <mrk_> ddilinger, belive me, i can start afresh
[20:16] <rocklobster_217> upnp is to share media if im not mistaken
[20:16] <k-rad> mrk_, backup your valuables anyway, if you have any
[20:16] <mrk_> k-rad: ok...but gnome is the problem
[20:16] <ddilinger> mrk_: if you want a system thats hard to fix, be my guest
[20:16] <mrk_> k-rad: i think its the xulrunner
[20:17] <twbd> epaphus, look at the 2nd line of free: it says without cache (while the first lines includes cache as "used"), and returns the same amount as the System Monitor (use "free -m" to see in  megabytes)
[20:17] <k-rad> thats a component of firefox, i can't help you there
[20:17] <epaphus> twbd, thank you
[20:17] <Ray2>  Ubuntu Lucid..On booting the following errors...No suitable mode found..unknown command terminal..How do I correct this error
[20:17] <twbd> epaphus, you're welcome
[20:17] <mrk_> ddilinger; i wish i understood you better...i'm very ignorant
[20:18] <k-rad> mrk_, your not ignorant perhaps you are young or a slow learner
[20:18] <k-rad> mrk_, these things take time
[20:18] <mrk_> k-rad: i'm not young haha..but new to linux
[20:18] <ddilinger> mrk_: say you mess up something and wreck something, if /home is a seperate partition you can replace the root partition in an hour or two and have it just like it was before you broke anything
[20:18] <ddilinger> mrk_: if its not a seperate partition, you have to juggle data arround
[20:19] <k-rad> mrk_, fine.  your not young.  your also not ignorant.  :)
[20:19] <ddilinger> mrk_: if your like me and have multi TB of data, juggling data arround to re-install an OS is not a choice :)
[20:19] <mrk_> ddilinger: i see what you mean, is that an option provided during an installation?
[20:19] <ddilinger> mrk_: it used to be standard, things may have changed though
[20:20] <vvcephei> I don't think it's standard anymore
[20:20] <vvcephei> should be
[20:20] <`3Shades> can anyone help me with ISPconfig?
[20:20] <mrk_> ddilinger, and k-rad , i live and learn1
[20:20] <k-rad> mrk_, there are free ubuntu ebooks if you can find them, relatively new, only cost money if you want the paperback
[20:20] <epaphus> twbd, i thought the disk cache was something the actual hard disk had.. didnt take advantage of RAM.. in any case that isnt real ram usage right?
[20:20] <ddilinger> mrk_: i typically skip the automatic partitioner and do it by hand, 2x ram as swap space, 10 or 20G for root, and the rest for /home
[20:20] <rocklobster_217> ddilinger: what other folders would you suggest separating from main installation, I usually have /usr/local on its own
[20:21] <mrk_> k-rad: i'm on to it...learning slowly but hopefully surely! wrote my first shell script today. succesfully! haha
[20:21] <mrk_> ddilinger, ; my pc is dreadfully old
[20:21] <rocklobster_217> k-rad: can you advise on a good ubuntu e-book
[20:21] <k-rad> mrk_, do 2500 for swap, then 10000 for / make that ext 4, format it every reinstall, then the rest of the space on /home, ext4 also, and NEVER format.  thats the sin against the holy ghost
[20:22] <Jordan_U> ddilinger: rocklobster_217: http://castrojo.tumblr.com/post/1093664654/no-need-to-complicate-your-life
[20:22] <`3Shades> Can anyone help me with ISPconfig 2?
[20:22] <ddilinger> rocklobster_217: some people do /usr/local, i dont personally install anything into /usr/local so i dont bother.  If you do plan to have custom installed software there it will solve juggling data issues should you have need to re-install the root partition.  Also if your applications in /usr/local can generate lots of data keeping /usr/local on a seperate partition will stop filling up that from breaking anything else
[20:22] <k-rad> rocklobster_217, i could actually provide them if i had a server i could drop them off at
[20:22] <twbd> epaphus, both exist. The disk has some amount of cache that is indeed called the disk cache, which you get when you buy a harddisk.  The disk cache I was talking about is a different one (maybe the term "disk cache" is not the best choice of me), it's when Linux reads a file from disk, that it keeps it's content in memory (RAM). The next time the file is read it can be read faster (Linux can just fetch the content from RAM).
[20:22] <ntarruella> hello Everybody, there's anyone here who does PHP?
[20:22] <ntarruella>  hello Everybody, there's anyone here who does PHP?
[20:23] <erUSUL> ntarruella: #php ?
[20:23]  * Skaperen used to do PHP, but that was 10 years ago
[20:23] <ddilinger> Jordan_U: shrug, if your re-install intends to use the exact same filesystems, it can work
[20:23] <Haffe> There was php 10 years ago?
[20:23] <Haffe> Man I am getting old.
[20:23] <rocklobster_217> k-rad: I've just moved my server to my new house, hasn't been turned on
[20:23] <Skaperen> PHP3
[20:23] <ddilinger> Jordan_U: my media center was installed years ago and just continuously upgraded, i've switched filesystems and whatnot on the root as years pass and never needed to munge with the data dirs
[20:23] <k-rad> rocklobster_217, if you find a buddy with ftp server i dont mind dropping them off
[20:24] <mrk_> thanks anyway k-rad and ddilinger ..looks like i'm headed for a re-installation
[20:24] <mren> hi, in which package can I find Gimp.pm in 10.10?
[20:24] <ddilinger> Jordan_U: couldn't imagine changing filesystems on the TB disks, where to even put the data while formatting
[20:24] <ntarruella> Im having a really hard time setting up apache2.2 and php5.3
[20:24] <Skaperen> or maybe I'm confusing it with PCP ? :-)
[20:24] <k-rad> save that partitioning info, it'll save you in the future
[20:24] <mrk_> cool
[20:24] <ntarruella> my php is not working in the virtual hosts
[20:24] <k-rad> mrk_, and backup
[20:25] <Skaperen> Haffe: I made one web site with PHP ... I've updated it since to use CSS, but that didn't really involve changing the PHP
[20:25] <twbd> mren, you can look it up on http://packages.ubuntu.com (seems like there isn't a package with that file if I looked correctly)
[20:25] <twbd> mren, the second form (not the first)
[20:25] <breeee> Sup
[20:25] <mren> thx twbd
[20:25] <twbd> np mren
[20:25] <k-rad> since i'm not allowed to use the word best when asking what ubuntu dock is a good one to use, i'm using docky, since i can't use the word best, those who have tested all of the ubuntu docks could you tell me of a tried and true favorite ?
[20:25] <daniele_athome> hello
[20:26] <breeee> Someone like to help noobs? :D Having a problem installing ubuntu because I dont know whats going on. <3
[20:26] <daniele_athome> i see that glib 2.26 is not on lucid
[20:26] <lee1422_> test test
[20:26] <magicianlord> Is ubuntu faster with 2gb than 512mb ram when you're not reaching over 300?
[20:26] <ddilinger> breeee: asking to ask questions is generally discouraged, ask a full question with details :)
[20:26] <ntarruella> i change my apache2.conf my php5.cnf and everything seems good
[20:26] <lee1422_> this is my first time to use IRC
[20:26] <breeee> Perfect. Thank you ddilinger
[20:26] <mren> to bad, Karmic is the last which provides libgimp-perl
[20:26] <k-rad> magicianlord, its likely digging into swap, to keep it that low, i think ?
[20:27] <erUSUL> magicianlord: more ram is allways good no matter the OS
[20:27] <uLinux> what can cause ALSA glitches
[20:27] <daniele_athome> my god what a mess
[20:27] <magicianlord> k-rad: no swap usage at all
[20:27] <daniele_athome> could you split channels per category?
[20:27] <magicianlord> with windows, for example, it makes a difference, bec memory management is good
[20:27] <k-rad> magicianlord, all i can say is amazing if your doing well on 512mb
[20:27] <lee1422_> i submitted a bug against empathy today
[20:27] <Xaifas> k-rad,  booted to windows and changed the dns server and its the same as in resolv.conf file from ubuntu, so definetly not that. Still can't figure whats causing to be so damn slow
[20:27] <magicianlord> with ubuntu, it doesnt seem to make any difference
[20:27] <breeee> I had allocated 30GB partitioned, set aside, from my Windows partition previously through vista. Now Im in Ubuntu installation setup. /dev/sda5 ext4 i hit install. and tells me i have no root file system defined. But Im unsure of how to do that.
[20:27] <magicianlord> i need a confirmatino of this asap
[20:27] <breeee> :D
[20:27] <ddilinger> magicianlord: considering the price of 2G ram, you will likely make up the cost in time saved shortly :)
[20:28] <cozziemoto> hey guys.. ulimit -l reads 64  as locked memory  ...I have tried various things including editing  /etc/security/limits.conf with no effect increasing that limit...any suggestions?
[20:28] <spayz> can someone plss help?
[20:28] <ddilinger> magicianlord: the extra memory will be used to hold commonly used files from disk in memory, among other things
[20:28] <k-rad> Xaifas was it a utility that setup your network settings in windows ?
[20:28] <Skaperen> spayz: nope
[20:28] <spayz> my notification box is black
[20:28] <uLinux> breeee: you need to choose where to mount /
[20:28] <magicianlord> ddilinger: after they load though
[20:28] <Xaifas> yes k-rad
[20:28] <magicianlord> that seems to make no difference on the netbook
[20:28] <ddilinger> magicianlord: you only read a file once?
[20:28] <ddilinger> magicianlord: how about all the libraries
[20:28] <magicianlord> im not going over 316mb
[20:28] <spayz> can someone plss help?my notification box is black??
[20:28] <ddilinger> magicianlord: if you dont want memory, then dont buy it
[20:29] <ubuntu> I need to backup my hard drive (which has 5 partitions on it) and it's corrupted. how can i mount and back up the entire thing?
[20:29] <breeee> Ooh, ok uLinux. So just under that partition when it says mount choose /
[20:29] <magicianlord> i have a spare 2gb dimm, but see no reason to replace the 512mb one
[20:29] <k-rad> Xaifas, then that question and the answer i gave, ask in #networking and be real patient and kind when asking for help
[20:29] <Xaifas> when I installed both windows and ubuntu, the connection was plugged to the laptop so it configured its self. It runs smoth on windows and slow on ubuntu...
[20:29] <ddilinger> magicianlord: yup, frame that spare 2gb and put it on the wall next to the PC :)
[20:29] <k-rad> the answer you gave
[20:29] <twbd> magicianlord, most users need more RAM just too run gnome+openoffice+firefox+some other programs at the same time, people who need less ram usually know rather good what they're doing and which software to choose (e.g. openbox/icewm/xfce... instead of gnome, etc) or they just swap
[20:29] <Xaifas> Oky then, thanks k-rad
[20:29] <ubuntu> I'm running a live cd of ubuntu
[20:29] <tofix> hi everyone , is there something in ubuntu's kernel (and also debian apparently) that prevent from executing  beginer shellcode (a poor hello world ) that works on Suse 2.6.16 but not on Ubuntu 2.6.31 or 2.6.34  ??
[20:29] <breeee> And now for device for boot loader installation. Would that be on the whole HDD or just that specific partition?
[20:29] <epaphus> twbd, interesting thing is that when I do a file copy it uses all the ram.. and doesnt give it back according to free
[20:30] <k-rad> ddilinger, the 2GB next to the computer thats got 512mb ?
[20:30] <magicianlord> twbd: thanks. i know what im doing, so i dont need more ram by that logic
[20:30] <ddilinger> k-rad: yea :)
[20:30] <k-rad> ya'll are weird ;)
[20:30] <twbd> magical, well yes and no, the extra ram can be used for cache
[20:30] <twbd> magicianlord, well yes and no, the extra ram can be used for cache (sry magical wrong nick)
[20:30] <spayz> can someone plss help?my notification box is black??
[20:30] <Jordan_U> breeee: The whole HD, like "sda". *not* "sda1".
[20:30] <twbd> epaphus, according to the 1st or the 2nd line of the free output?
[20:31] <vvcephei> tofix: what's the error?
[20:31] <RudyValencia> getdeb is down :(
[20:31] <breeee> Jordan_U, thank you. Youre amazing
[20:31] <Jordan_U> breeee: You're welcome.
[20:31] <k-rad> magicianlord, needless to say your using preload.  i've never benchmarked any difference, but hey, i trust it
[20:31] <tofix> vvcephei, always segfaut when i launch the binary
[20:31] <breeee> Type would still be ext4?
[20:31] <RudyValencia> !mint
[20:31] <spayz> can someone plss help?my notification box is black??
[20:32] <breeee> Sidenote. Youre all pretty damn amazing
[20:32] <epaphus> twbd, first
[20:32] <vvcephei> tofix: this is just a hello world? as in "#!/bin/bash" and "echo 'hello world'"?
[20:32] <breeee> uh. now its telling me something about swap space. What is the use of that?
[20:32] <k-rad> thats for when memory needs get to be too high then it'll dig into hard drive allocated swap
[20:32] <ddilinger> breeee: swap space keeps programs running when you run out of real memory :)
[20:33] <ddilinger> breeee: how much memory in your machine?
[20:33] <breeee> Do you advise that? .. oh. Uh. I think RAM 2GB
[20:33] <mobasher> breeee=}} virutal memeory
[20:33] <twbd> epaphus, yep, so the frist line counts the disk cache as used ram. So when copying a file, the content of that file stays in ram and is thus counted as used.  As soon as some software needs more ram and all ram is used by software and disk cache, that ram that is used for disk cache will be given to the software that asks for more ram.
[20:33] <k-rad> oui
[20:33] <ddilinger> breeee: and you have a big(hundreds of GB) hd?  set 4GB for swap
[20:33] <k-rad> i do breeee
[20:33] <uLinux> breeee: you should watch/read a manual installion on Ubuntu :)
[20:33] <Skaperen> breeee: it's for when programs need more memory that you have RAM
[20:33] <uLinux> about
[20:33] <breeee> Hahaha. Alright. Yeah, uLinux. I should. <_<
[20:33] <bill> Hi, need some help with icons for shares that I mount in fstab... They show up in file browser but are useless... anybody know if I can prune them?
[20:33] <tofix> vvcephei, no no ... i write a c code with hello world ... compile it with gcc ... then objdump the binary and extract the op code that i concatenate with \x ... then launch it , works perfect of kernel < 2.6.16 but not on recent ... with gcc 4.x
[20:33] <epaphus> twbd, got it... so i wont pay attention to that :D
[20:33] <mobasher> breeee=}} usually it's 2 times the size of your physical memory
[20:33] <spayz> breeee
[20:34] <breeee> Oh wow. Nice
[20:34] <spayz> can u plss help me?
[20:34] <magicianlord> what if you never reach your 490mb limit?
[20:34] <spayz> breee plss help me
[20:34] <breeee> Spayz, I know nothing about any of this currently. Hence why Im asking simple things.
[20:34] <breeee> Sorry love
[20:34] <Skaperen> breeee: swap space is where idle programs get moved to when other programs need to run and use RAM when there isn't enough for them all at the same time
[20:34] <spayz> can someone plss help?my notification box is black??
[20:34] <spayz> can someone plss help?my notification box is black??
[20:34] <epaphus> speaking of swapping and ram... isnt a smart idea to just simply disable swap on a machine.. i mean after all when swap is used.. it makes the machine very slow... what would happen without swap?
[20:34] <mobasher> spayz=}} whas up
[20:34] <ikonia> epaphus: no, swap is useful to have
[20:34] <ddilinger> epaphus: random programs get killed when you run out of memory
[20:34] <tofix> spayz ... explain
[20:34] <uLinux> breeee: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GhnLk3gviWY
[20:35] <vvcephei> tofix: sorry, I misunderstood what you said. Don't think I can help you with that one ;)
[20:35] <ikonia> epaphus: if your machine has no ram and is using swap, it will slow down, but using swap sensibly is good
[20:35] <manu91> bcm 4312 monitor mode??
[20:35] <breeee> Thank you uLinux. :D
[20:35] <ddilinger> epaphus: not the one requesting more memory, but a random program just gets killed(not quite random, but not easily knowable in advance either)
[20:35] <tofix> vvcephei, nop ... thanks
[20:35] <okapi14> hi all
[20:35] <Skaperen> epaphus: depends on how much RAM compare to how much VM is needed ... if sum(VM) < RAM ... sure, no swap needed (and in fact my server is configured that way)
[20:35] <twbd> epaphus, disk cache is a pretty harmless optimization (well except for encrypted devices maybe, and delayed writeback) so it's indeed nothing to worry about :)
[20:35] <mobasher> okapi14=}} hey
[20:35] <breeee> I wont be able to watch that because I cant download the addon currently. But when I come back either completely installed or on Windows, Ill be sure to check it out
[20:35] <DanaG1> When things go into swap, the system tends to slow to a crawl, to where it's faster just to reboot.
[20:36] <bandd> Both 10.04 and 10.10 are mounting a thumb drive (ext2) read-only permissions.  The drive is fine, no errors... any ideas?
[20:36] <epaphus> ikonia, ddilinger .. right but if swap is always 2x RAM.. then.. if I have 2GB of RAM, and SWAP is 4.. then isnt it just smart to have 6GB of ram and not have swap?
[20:36] <okapi14> Have a problem with my mouse not responding to the click unless I use ctrl+shift key. How can I disable it?
[20:36] <ddilinger> DanaG1: depends on how badly its into swap, if you leave firefox and chrome and odesk and other things open, but only use one at a time, the application currently running will be fast
[20:36] <ikonia> epaphus: swap is not always 2 x ram
[20:36] <ddilinger> DanaG1: swapping from the browser to openoffice would likely incur a pause while loading from swap
[20:36] <ikonia> epaphus: ram is not always available, and using ram for "sleeping" processes is a waste, hence swapping out to disk is good
[20:36] <epaphus> ikonia, ubuntu default on the mayoritty of the world computers.. at least
[20:37] <magicianlord> bandd: right click on it while in root nautilus, and change the read/write permission to users group
[20:37] <epaphus> ikonia, ahhh got it
[20:37] <nprasath002> Why skype is not showing in synaptic package manager in 10.10????
[20:37] <ikonia> nprasath002: enable partner repo
[20:37] <xangua> nprasath002: is in parthner
[20:37] <xangua> !partner
[20:37] <nprasath002> how?
[20:37] <angevelon> hello all, i have a bit of a puzzle for you involving automounting usb ntfs drive in ubuntu 10.04 lucid
[20:37] <okapi14> Have a problem with my mouse not responding to the click unless I use ctrl+shift key. How can I disable it?
[20:37] <k-rad> i know i'm not running a mac and i don't want to be running a mac but there are many that have the bottom dock much like OSX, i'm not trying to emulate osx, but rather, find the best option from those who have tinkered with all of them.  i'd rather get it right the first time then go through each one by one and test them myself
[20:38] <Jordan_U> epaphus: It also means that if something crazy happens and you're running out of RAM fast, you have more time before the OOM killer kicks in and starts killing processes.
[20:38] <ddilinger> epaphus: the extra memory is more of a buffer zone.  The swap isn't fast but it will keep your computer from going crazy
[20:39] <ddilinger> epaphus: otherwise, say some random website causes a memory leak in firefox, and now firefox is using 2GB of ram on your 2GB machine, with swap you can kill firefox, without swap the kernel will randomly kill programs
[20:39] <bandd> magicianlord: under permissions tab is says "Permissions of drive could not be detertmined"
[20:39] <epaphus> ddilinger, Jordan_U .. so in a db server.. its best to have swap BUT monitor that it should really almost never be used.
[20:39] <angevelon> my problem is this i have 9, yes 9, external usb ntfs drives, before i get flamed, i can afford to do a fileserver any other way right now, im flat broke, anyway.....
[20:39] <RudyValencia> I like to think of swap as emergency holographic RAM :P
[20:39] <Skaperen> does anyone still use 9.04 anymore?
[20:39] <breeee> would swap be a primary partition?
[20:39] <ddilinger> epaphus: for a DB server, you should never even be close to your memory limit
[20:39] <epaphus> right.
[20:39] <ddilinger> epaphus: i run a postgres server with 16GB of memory, it typically uses about 3GB for the system and 13GB for disk cache
[20:39] <gnunoob> how much swap for a machine with 4gb ram does one recommend?
[20:39] <bill> k-rad:  I prefer cairo-dock
[20:39] <mobasher> Skaperen=}} yeap i'm on it
[20:39] <ikonia> breeee: doesn't matter
[20:39] <angevelon> they automount on boot, wich is cool, but with the wrong volume name/sd name
[20:40] <angevelon> this is bad
[20:40] <breeee> ok
[20:40] <k-rad> bill, did you try docky ?
[20:40] <ddilinger> epaphus: if it was ever using even 8GB of memory something would be very wrong
[20:40] <Skaperen> mobasher: can you still update packages?
[20:40] <Jordan_U> epaphus: That's reasonable, especially if you set swappiness to 0 (which means only use swap when absolutely needed, never just as an optimization).
[20:40] <gnunoob> !ping gnunbuntu
[20:40]  * ede_ Ping gnunbuntu Could not be resolved to an IP address
[20:40] <kz6090> k-rad, try avant-window-navigator or cairo dock. both are easy and pretty configurable.
[20:40] <bill> krad:  I've tried docky, awn, and cairo and so far I prefer cairo
[20:40] <breeee> and just file system "linux-swap" ?
[20:40] <k-rad> i've never tried cairo.  sounds like fun
[20:40] <khalidmian> New to ubuntu.. just installed ubuntu on my laptop the graphics do not appear onmy laptop screen so im currently using vga adapter and an external monitor to chat. Please kindly help me as i wish to configure ubuntu to run using my laptop screen
[20:40] <k-rad> thanks all
[20:40] <mobasher> Skaperen=}} yea i did that a week ago..it works fine...support ended but it's still working fine and will continue to work
[20:40] <christoz> hey, any idea how to toogle synaptics  touchpad (off/on) on ubuntu 10.10?
[20:41] <Skaperen> mobasher: would anyone have a need to install a fresh 9.04 or even 9.10 at this point in time?
[20:41] <angevelon> so now im trying to set it up to auto mount by uuid in fstab, but i cannot figure out for the life of me ang google, how do i match up the uuid for the drive with the actual volume name if it is miss matching the drive and volume name
[20:41] <magicianlord> christoz: function key + touchpad key on laptop
[20:41] <ddilinger> Any succesfully setup networked audio with pulseaudio? I'm trying to setup pulseaudio so i can play audio from my PC, and be able to switch it over to the media center PC.  I've checked 'Enable network access to local sound' along with 'Allow other machines in LAN' and 'Don't require authentication'  and restarted pulseaudio on my mediacenter, On my  PC the mediacenter doesn't show up in padevchooser as an option for output.  If i manually set
[20:42] <Skaperen> mobasher: I'm wondering if I should go ahead and dispose of my 9.04 USB memory stick flash drive install image files
[20:42] <LinuxPhreak> I've added the gnome-core package to my Ubuntu Server and I want to add the plymouth-theme-ubuntu-logo. However I can't seem to get it to load the plymouth in graphical mode.
[20:42] <breeee> Yay.  How can I disable it?
[20:43] <nprasath002> synaptic package manager>>edit>> mark packages by task missing???  where is it in 10.10??
[20:43] <Skaperen> mobasher: so newer versions have disposed of the older video drives?
[20:43] <mobasher> Skaperen=}} naa i'm lazy...i have new amd 64 running 10.04 so this is like old system it's okay it's not a top priority for me right now
[20:43] <christoz> what's the function key "fn"? touchpad key?
[20:43] <Skaperen> video drivers
[20:43] <magicianlord> christoz: about waht
[20:43] <epaphus> Jordan_U, ddilinger ... so.. theoretically speaking in an environment where there is ocassional big reads and writes.. one will always show ram being used 90-100% for disk caching.. no matter how big your ram is.. if i copy files that are bigger then the ram.. then all of my ramm will always be used for disk caching... right?
[20:43] <okapi14> anyone ever use the sugar desktop?
[20:44] <ddilinger> christoz: its probably in an off color, look for other markings on your keyboard in the same color
[20:44] <ddilinger> christoz: holding fn will get those keys
[20:44] <angevelon> realtivly new ubuntu user(1.5 years) having trouble with automounting usb ntfs drive with correct matching uuid, sda drive name and volume name, anytakers?
[20:44] <Skaperen> mobasher: ah, ok ... old sidekick machine keeping a legacy version running
[20:44] <mobasher> Skaperen=}} well there is a hardware compatibility list of hardwares on the website
[20:44] <Jordan_U> epaphus: Correct.
[20:44] <christoz> oh din't noticed that
[20:44] <ddilinger> epaphus: yup, thats how it works
[20:44] <Skaperen> mobasher: I'm just trying to decide of I should keep these images I made for 9.04
[20:44] <angevelon> realtivly new ubuntu user(1.5 years) having trouble with automounting usb ntfs drive with correct matching uuid, sda drive name and volume name, anytakers?
[20:44] <mobasher> Skaperen=}} yea this is old school pentium 4 :)
[20:45] <ddilinger> epaphus: if you want to see it in action, do this: dd if=/dev/sda of=/dev/null bs=1024 count=100000
[20:45] <nprasath002> synaptic package manager>>edit>> mark packages by task missing???  where is it in 10.10??
[20:45] <ddilinger> epaphus: may need a bigger count, and use time on it to see how long it takes
[20:45] <angevelon> realtivly new ubuntu user(1.5 years) having trouble with automounting usb ntfs drive with correct matching uuid, sda drive name and volume name, anytakers?
[20:45] <guntbert> !repeat | angevelon
[20:45] <mobasher> Skaperen=}} sure if your hardware is supported in the newer versions then you can get rid of it...are you running it all from stick or physical drive ?
[20:45] <ddilinger> epaphus: run it a second time, it will run super fast, because dd thinks its reading /dev/sda but the kernel is feeding it straight out of memory cache
[20:45] <Skaperen> mobasher: these images are for raw dd-ing to USB flash drives ... in lieu of using ISOs (but they work as ISOs, too)
[20:46] <baxterubuntu> hey guys i have a dv6000 and when i disable the touchpad on laptop the keyboard stops working. so does menus and right click. it was same on 10.04.1 i read its the synaptics touchpad driver any ideas
[20:46] <Tuxon86> #chanlist
[20:46] <christoz> ddilinger, there is no touchpad key unfortunately
[20:46] <baxterubuntu> for laptop
[20:46] <epaphus> ddilinger, and in your specific case.. you would benefit from 8GB of ram specially if your db is smaller then 8GB of ram... right? so do you maintain proportion between your ram and the size of your db?
[20:46] <SteelPangolin> Skaperen: are you talking about the netbook remix images for 10.04? I've had no luck getting those things to work when dded to USB sticks
[20:46] <baxterubuntu> do ddisable. mouse
[20:47] <ddilinger> epaphus: the ammount of ram on a db server should hopefully enough to be able to keep all hot data in memory
[20:47] <mobasher> Skaperen=}} so u have been running it on flash drive...well if want try the new 10.04 it's pretty good...alot of new features
[20:47] <breeee> :D 10.04
[20:47] <baxterubuntu> and use a usb mouse. if i bump the enable key for for touchpad then disable it keybord stops working
[20:47] <ddilinger> epaphus: hot data, being everything that is read on a regular basis.  You dont need enough memory to store the mostly-unused parts of the db
[20:47] <Skaperen> SteelPangolin: no ... I'm talking about dd-able images I have made from the original .iso ... for desktop, and more recently also for netbook, editions
[20:47] <guntbert> !enter | baxterubuntu
[20:47] <epaphus> ddilinger, cool.t nx.
[20:48] <Skaperen> SteelPangolin: the way I make these images, they work both as dd-able to flash drive AND cdrecord-able to CDr/DVDr
[20:48] <casrmt> I know the kernel works with 4GB of ram in the x86 release of mav but should I run the 64bit release if I plan on upgrading to 8GB shortly?
[20:48] <SteelPangolin> Skaperen: nice. wish i had one of those a week ago - had to install from a borrowed CD because I couldn't quite get the installer to recognize where its data was.
[20:48] <angevelon> i need help with drive mounting and fstab in 10.04
[20:49] <Skaperen> SteelPangolin: http://slashusr.net/ubuntu/10.10/ for the latest ones
[20:49] <SteelPangolin> tried to copy the install ISO stuff and replace isolinux with extlinux but it got messy
[20:49] <angevelon> is there someone there that could please help me?
[20:49] <Skaperen> SteelPangolin: I keep a few USB memory sticks with various of these images ready to go
[20:49] <SteelPangolin> Skaperen: thanks :)
[20:50] <dagon666> angevelon: whats the problem ?
[20:50] <Skaperen> SteelPangolin: 10.04.1 and 10.04 and 9.10 are out there, too
[20:50] <ddilinger> Any succesfully setup networked audio with pulseaudio? I'm trying to setup pulseaudio so i can play audio from my PC, and be able to switch it over to the media center PC.  I've checked 'Enable network access to local sound' along with 'Allow other machines in LAN' and 'Don't require authentication'  and restarted pulseaudio on my mediacenter, On my  PC the mediacenter doesn't show up in padevchooser as an option for output.  If i manually set
[20:50] <mobasher> Skaperen=}} well best thing to do is have virtualbox installed and you can play with in that instead of horsing around with the acutal OS on your PC...it's pretty cool check it out
[20:50] <Skaperen> SteelPangolin: when dd-ing, be sure to dd to the whole drive (of course, it erases everything)
[20:51] <SteelPangolin> Skaperen: the first 9.x series image i used came as a dd-able file and worked fine. I was pretty disappointed when the 10.x images didn't work.
[20:51] <RingZer0> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kzdykNa2IBU&feature=player_embedded >> Does someone want to explain what that is about
[20:51] <angevelon> dagon666, my problem is this, ive got a file sever running 10.04 desktop, with a samba server, and 9 usb ntfs drives
[20:51] <Skaperen> mobasher: that has uses ... but this is for installing to machines with no CD drives
[20:51] <angevelon> dagon666, when i boot, everytime, the system mis matches the uuid, sda name, and volume name
[20:52]  * Skaperen even has some tower/rack machines with no CD drive now days
[20:52] <dagon666> angevelon: whats the problem with correcting them to the right ones ?
[20:52] <Swian> anyone know a good app for converting a dvd to an avi or mpg
[20:52] <SteelPangolin> Swian: handbrake
[20:53] <Swian> thanks
[20:53] <basix-> is there a good picture/video editing program for ubuntu? i am looking for something to compare with what mac offers
[20:53] <vvcephei> RingZer0: that's a microsoft commercial
[20:53] <angevelon> dagon666, this means that my network shares are either a different drive entirley or to there at all, well i have dugg around google and ubuntu help for hours, and i cant find a good command to help me match my uuid to the correct volume name, so i know witch drive is witch
[20:53] <SteelPangolin> Swian: also, DVDs are already in a kind of MPEG format (MPEG-2 with some junk bolted on)
[20:53] <coz_> anyonw know how to increase the value  of   ulimit -l
[20:53] <xangua> basix-: gimp, krita, openshot, etc
[20:53] <dagon666> angevelon: example: sudo tune2fs -l /dev/sda1 | grep -i uuid
[20:53] <vvcephei> they took those quotes from their own focus groups, hired people to read them, and posted it to youtube
[20:53] <SteelPangolin> Swian: you might want to look into .mkv, which handbrake also does, if you want to capture menus, subtitles, etc.
[20:54] <Swian> yeah, I've learned about that format recently
[20:54] <ZykoticK9> SteelPangolin, Swian I love Handbrake but it doesn't do AVI or MPEG output anymore
[20:54] <dagon666> angevelon: there was even a shorter one but I dont remember right now
[20:54] <codydbgt> hello
[20:54] <Swian> .mkv is fine
[20:55] <ddilinger> basix-: so, you want $1000 software, pioneered by user interface architects and not software developers?  sad to say you wont find it
[20:55] <codydbgt> can any one help with a grub problem
[20:55] <magicianlord> how do you get around the alsa "device is busy" error?
[20:55] <SteelPangolin> basix-: Mac OS X has an image editor?
[20:55] <magicianlord> when trying to play sound from multiple apps
[20:55] <angevelon> daggon666, very cool thanks, so this will tell me what the sda name of a uuid is, or what the uuid of an sda name is? and once i get that matched, how do i know what the actual partition volume name is?
[20:55]  * Skaperen will be looking for some software to go the OTHER way on DVDs ... to convert his own videos into DVDs ... eventually (maybe next month or two)
[20:55] <hobomo> does anyone know a command to open two terminal sessions simultaneously and execute a script in each of them?
[20:55] <mamece2> hello, how can i install openlogos? i need it for my conky and theres a message JAVA DIR NO FOUND
[20:55] <codydbgt> win7 not shoing up in grub
[20:55] <codydbgt> help
[20:56] <SteelPangolin> Skaperen: that's fun on a bun, especially if you're re-encoding video compressed with a modern codec back to MPEG-2
[20:56] <basix-> ddilinger, hm.. actually the one i'm thinking of by mac is more like $100
[20:56] <duffydack> 'devede'
[20:56] <dagon666> angevelon: you can ommit the grep in this command and you'll get full partition info including its volume label
[20:56] <angevelon> dagon666, i think i should tell further about how i am trying to correct this problem, i would like to have each drive(by uuid) mount to its specific partition volume name in fstab on every reboot
[20:57] <codydbgt> can any here me
[20:57] <ddilinger> basix-: if you would actually say a program name maybee people wouldk now what you want
[20:57] <Skaperen> SteelPangolin: my "videos" are actually time-lapse photos in PNG ... so pretty straight encoding
[20:57] <SteelPangolin> basix-, ddilinger: so  basix- you're looking for something more like iLife than Final Cut?
[20:57] <guntbert> codydbgt: yes
[20:57] <codydbgt> any one
[20:57] <codydbgt> oh
[20:57] <Skaperen> SteelPangolin: and I will also want to do Blu-Ray
[20:57] <angevelon> dagon666, does that make sence?
[20:57] <codydbgt> good wasnt shur if it was working
[20:57] <dagon666> angevelon: yes
[20:57] <Jordan_U> codydbgt: What is the output of "sudo os-prober"?
[20:57] <codydbgt> let me check
[20:57] <SteelPangolin> Skaperen: cool! I think ffmpeg has an option to read sequential images and do just that
[20:58] <angevelon> dagon666, ok im trying your recomended command now
[20:58] <basix-> SteelPangolin, , yes iLife i was just going to search it on apple.com thanks..
[20:58] <aguitel_> i have acer aspire one D260 netbook ,anyone install ubuntu there?
[20:58] <basix-> i'm looking for something comparable to iLife
[20:58] <dagon666> angevelon: PM me
[20:58] <Skaperen> SteelPangolin: yeah, I've dabbled in making .mpg files from the stack of .png files using it
[20:59] <codydbgt> /dev/sda1:Windows Vista (loader):Windows:chain
[20:59] <ZykoticK9> Skaperen, to create DVD Video disks I've personally had the most luck with DeVeDe (it's in default repo)
[20:59] <Skaperen> SteelPangolin: but It's the whole DVD/BluRay authoring, menu making, etc ... that I will be looking for (once these photos are made)
[20:59] <SteelPangolin> i have a question related to basix-'s but with a narrower scope, specifically raster image editing - is there somthing like the Paint.NET project for Windows, but for Ubuntu? Maybe a cutdown version of the GIMP with a less awful UI?
[20:59] <Jordan_U> codydbgt: Good, then "sudo update-grub" should add an entry for it.
[20:59] <RudyValencia> Is it possible to seamlessly switch between wired and wireless networking?
[20:59] <codydbgt> no thats the recovery parttition
[20:59] <SteelPangolin> Skaperen: yeah... i usually got around that by burning SVCDs instead
[20:59] <SteelPangolin> no menu
[20:59] <Skaperen> SteelPangolin: and I don't want to buy stuff from Adobe, etc, for it
[20:59] <codydbgt> its alreay in there
[21:00] <codydbgt> iv also posted on ubuntu forms
[21:00] <Skaperen> SteelPangolin: these will also be HD ... 1920x1080p{24,25,30,50,60}
[21:00] <Jordan_U> codydbgt: That appears to be the only bootable windows partition you have. Did you by any chance delete any small ntfs partitions recently?
[21:00] <codydbgt> any other in fo you could use
[21:00] <codydbgt> ho about
[21:00] <codydbgt> how*
[21:00] <aliverius> is there some package other than "lamp", with say postgresql? i wish to use drupal but it depends on lamp
[21:01] <hobomo> does anyone know a command to open two xterm sessions simultaneously and execute a script in each of them?
[21:01] <codydbgt> fdisk -l
[21:01] <Skaperen> SteelPangolin: the photos are beyond HD ... so making HD from them would be easy enough
[21:01] <codydbgt>    Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System
[21:01] <codydbgt> /dev/sda1               1        1314    10547200   27  Unknown
[21:01] <codydbgt> /dev/sda2   *        1314        1326      102400   82  Linux swap / Solaris
[21:01] <codydbgt> /dev/sda3            1326       22809   172556288    7  HPFS/NTFS
[21:01] <codydbgt> /dev/sda4           22809       38914   129362945    5  Extended
[21:01] <FloodBot3> codydbgt: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:01] <codydbgt> /dev/sda5           22809       38914   129362944   83  Linux
[21:02] <Jordan_U> hobomo: xterm -e foo & xterm -e bar
[21:02] <xenome> anyone know how to make X release it's hold on a device (ie /dev/input/XXX)
[21:02] <Skaperen> ugh ... old cylinder numbers :-(
[21:02] <SteelPangolin> Skaperen: just out of curiousity, what's the origin? scientific imaging? RAW camera shots? CG?
[21:02] <xenome> and can you do it w/o xinput?
[21:02] <codydbgt> joradn_u:so  now what
[21:03] <RudyValencia> I guess it's not possible to seamlessly switch networks
[21:03] <Jordan_U> codydbgt: That appears to be the only bootable windows partition you have. Did you by any chance delete any small ntfs partitions recently?
[21:03] <xinli_> I am go to sleep
[21:03] <retrospectacus> my fresh kubuntu won't boot, says ALERT! /dev/disk/by-uuid/xxxxx... does not exist
[21:03] <anheuser> if in install the nvidia drivers from the Hardware Drivers control panel, do i need to purge the nouveau drivers still?
[21:03] <guntbert> RudyValencia: depends what you mean by "seamless"
[21:04] <codydbgt> i resised the mane windows 7 partition so i could load ubuntu
[21:04] <xinli_> nouveau has a bug in 10.04 and 10.10
[21:04] <RudyValencia> guntbert: I drop from IRC when I go wireless
[21:04] <phdp> I need basic SVN help. I made a SVN repo, I tested it using my laptop (it works, the checkout downloaded the 2 files). But I can't commit, update, or do anything, it always says "/home/X/Y/Z" is not a working copy... Where is the working copy ?
[21:04] <xinli_> It;s can't start dri when the system is boot
[21:04] <RudyValencia> (like, it times out and then I have to wait for my nick to clear
[21:04] <codydbgt> hello
[21:04] <Jordan_U> codydbgt: Could you run boot info script as explained here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1291280 and *pastebin* the RESULTS.txt using http://pastebin.ubuntu.com ?
[21:04] <RudyValencia> or clear it manually)
[21:05] <mamece2> hello, how can i install openlogos? i need it for my conky and theres a message JAVA DIR NO FOUND
[21:05] <anheuser> xinli, so yes do the purge command on the noveau drivers?
[21:05] <antIP> retrospectacus: Hmmm. It looks like kubuntu os looking for a particular drive to boot from and can't find it.
[21:05] <codydbgt> ok let em try
[21:05] <hobomo> Jordan_U: that doesnt seem to open them simultaneously, it does it sequentially
[21:05] <guntbert> RudyValencia: of course, you get a different IP address, and so connections must be built anew
[21:05] <Jordan_U> hobomo: Did you use '&' or '&&' ?
[21:05] <retrospectacus> antIP: thanks I'm gonna try some things I found on google
[21:05] <hobomo> Jordan_U: &
[21:05] <RudyValencia> too bad I have to reconnect to IRC every time
[21:05] <RudyValencia> :/
[21:05] <Skaperen> SteelPangolin: various dabbles ... mostly Christmas panorama images ... here's an old example in low res javascript form:  http://wheeling.wv.myohiovalley.net/vance/
[21:05] <hobomo> Jordan_U: is there a difference?
[21:06] <Jordan_U> hobomo: Yes.
[21:06] <retrospectacus> antIP: booting recovery mode works
[21:06] <Jordan_U> hobomo: What is the exact command you ran?
[21:06] <sensisensi> hi. maybe this is dumb. i want to install lubuntu on my old laptop (fresh install). i just burn the iso on a cd then restart laptop and boot from cdrom right?
[21:06] <SteelPangolin> Jordan_U: i have been wondering about the difference for years (grew up on tcsh). && is the sequential one?
[21:06] <ikonia> !install > sensisensi
[21:06] <ikonia> SteelPangolin: it's that simple
[21:06] <Random832> SteelPangolin: && means "if the first command is successful do the second one"
[21:06] <Random832> & means "run the first command in the background"
[21:06] <antIP> retrospectacus: Yeah, I had the same problem yesterday while trying to install a distro from a flash drive and the installation needed my drive to be named something in particular: weired.   I'm still on 10.04 fyi..
[21:07] <hobomo> Jordan_U: xterm -e /media/F5B6-D9E4/pythongame/newapp/gameServer1.py & sleep 1 & xterm -e /media/F5B6-D9E4/pythongame/newapp/newclient.py
[21:07] <Skaperen> SteelPangolin: I use && a lot in commands and scripts for sequential-and
[21:07] <Dulak> retrospectacus: go into your bios and turn on legacy usb support
[21:07] <mamece2> hello, how can i install openlogos? i need it for my conky and theres a message JAVA DIR NO FOUND
[21:08] <hobomo> Jordan_U: i need both of those scripts to run at the same time, but i want to give the first script a second to initialize
[21:08] <yener> hay
[21:08] <yener> how are you
[21:08] <retrospectacus> Dulak: it is on
[21:08] <guntbert> yener: this is the ubuntu support channel.  Do you have an ubuntu support question?
[21:08] <Jordan_U> hobomo: The "sleep 1" in that is doing nothing, as using '&' means that it is also running in the background. So all three commands are running at the same time.
[21:09] <antIP> retrospectacus: Honestly, I don't have a lot of experience in this department. In my case it was searching for a device by label /dev/disk/by-label/<label> - I just had to change the label of the flash drive I was booting from. Did you install from a USB drive?
[21:09] <SteelPangolin> Skaperen: heh, every time i end up writing a largish script, i end up screaming at the bash manual and rewriting it in Python, or in one terrifying instance, Haskell
[21:09] <Dulak> retrospectacus: that's the bit that would affect the keyboard before the drivers are loaded
[21:09] <mamece2> hello, how can i install openlogos? i need it for my conky and theres a message JAVA DIR NO FOUND
[21:09] <retrospectacus> antIP: installed from CD to hdd, it was working fine. I upgraded the kernel and now this
[21:09] <Skaperen> SteelPangolin: Python would very often be a suitable language to use, anyway
[21:10] <hobomo> Jordan_U: ok that makes sense now. so how would i start the second script a second after the first? im trying to keep this in one command so i can alias it.
[21:10] <codydbgt> ok jordan_u http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/515215/
[21:10] <SteelPangolin> Skaperen: i look forward to the day IPython is actually good enough to use as a shell
[21:10] <SteelPangolin> also, the day IPython stops depending on all of SciPy, NumPy, ATLAS, BLAS, etc...
[21:10] <mamece2> !es
[21:10]  * Skaperen wrote a BASH chapter for a Linux Sysadmin book a friend wrote, and had some of his script published in its appendix
[21:10] <retrospectacus> Dulak: it's weird cause both keyboards work in the bios and were working in the OS but now neither work in the initramfs
[21:10] <guntbert> SteelPangolin: please keep to the topic
[21:10] <Slipknot6669> Im wondering if someone can help me? I just upgraded to Maverick through the update manager, and now the atie catalyst drivers dont work for my graphics card. Says "Driver not functioning properly."
[21:11] <SteelPangolin> guntbert: sorry, noted.
[21:11] <Slipknot6669> Any takers?
[21:11] <Dulak> retrospectacus: not sure there, usually that setting fixes it right up.
[21:11] <Jordan_U> hobomo: foo & sleep 1; bar &
[21:11] <codydbgt> jordan_u http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/515215/
[21:11] <SteelPangolin> repeating question once: where can I grab a simple bitmap edior for Ubuntu 10, ideally comparable to Paint.NET
[21:11] <Jordan_U> codydbgt: I saw it the first time.
[21:12] <codydbgt> oh
[21:12] <codydbgt> im sorry
[21:12] <Dulak> SteelPangolin: tuxpaint
[21:12] <antIP> retrospectacus: I've never had a kernal upgrade do that. Well, I would really suggest the #kubuntu channel.
[21:12] <SteelPangolin> Dulak: thanks, will give it a shot
[21:12] <hobomo> Jordan_U: alright ill try it
[21:12] <khalidmian> looking for help and assistance with video card and monitor issue
[21:12] <hobomo> Jordan_U: what is the last & doing?
[21:12] <gkffcks> what unix group does a user have to be in for that user to use scanners?
[21:13] <Jordan_U> hobomo: Making it so that you can run commands after that in the same shell.
[21:14] <retrospectacus> trying changing the root= in boot opts to /dev/sd.. - keyboards work there
[21:14] <uLinux> ei i just relogged and there is no window decorator..
[21:15] <basix-> does ubuntu have a suite package similar to iLife?
[21:15] <Jordan_U> codydbgt: sda3 is not a bootable windows partition (it does not have a /boot/bcd).
[21:15] <codydbgt> so what do i do
[21:15] <codydbgt> add somthing
[21:15] <hobomo> Jordan_U: so if these scripts are running in the background, how do i stop them? will they automatically stop when i close the terminal?
[21:16] <Dulak> basix-: not a suite but there are apps in linux that do virtually everything ilife can do
[21:16] <codydbgt> how would i fix that
[21:16] <Slipknot6669> Anyone? Drivers not functioning properly in 10.10?
[21:17] <basix-> Dulak, k
[21:17] <uLinux> compiz --replace
[21:17] <Jordan_U> hobomo: Yes (though the scripts can be made to continue even after the terminal is closed if you wanted them to).
[21:17] <codydbgt> jordan_u: how would i fix that
[21:18] <Jordan_U> codydbgt: You'd have to ask in ##windows (or re-install windows).
[21:18] <codydbgt> so i cant just download them from some where
[21:18] <Jordan_U> codydbgt: You'd have to ask in ##windows
[21:18] <codydbgt> ho
[21:19] <codydbgt> ok
[21:20] <bahadunn> are there any lists of the new problems in the new release?
[21:20] <Fezzler> My video doesn't play in FireFox or Chrome in Lucid.  Sounds is great.  Video is a still image.  Like watching a slide show.  I have latest Flash installed.
[21:22] <ehcah> is there a different command for modifying permissions of an NTFS partition then an EXT?
[21:22] <cjc> Hello I need help bridging my wireless and ethernet interfaces please
[21:22] <jeom> Hello. My netbook has a 64-capable cpu. Would you reccomend running the 32-bit or 64-bit version of Ubuntu?
[21:22] <SteelPangolin> ehcah: probably, NTFS "access control lists" (ACLs) are fairly complicated and don't map directly to Linux ACLs
[21:23] <altin> hi, does anyone know why ubuntu 10.10 doesnt boot from live CD at some computers
[21:23] <Jordan_U> jeom: 64
[21:23] <SteelPangolin> ehcah: are you using ntfs-3G?
[21:23] <altin> it happened even at good ones
[21:23] <bahadunn> jeom: how much ram does your system have?
[21:23] <khalidmian> jeom: 32bit
[21:23] <zebra_> Jest tu jakis polak?xD
[21:23] <jeom> bahadunn : 1GB upgradable to 2GB
[21:23] <CyberRat> yes?
[21:24] <bahadunn> jeom: are you sure your processor is 64bit capable?
[21:24] <bahadunn> jeom: what model netbook do you have?
[21:24] <SteelPangolin> jeom: what netbook do you have? Is it that weird one-off Samsung based on the VIA Nano?
[21:24] <Fezzler> Jordan_U>> Got a sec to help me solve video issue.  You've helped me before so I know you are good
[21:24] <cjc> anyone here good at networking?
[21:24] <jeom> yes it is Atom Pinetrail and wubi installs the 64-bit version. It is HP Mini 5102
[21:24] <guntbert> !pl | zebra_
[21:24] <bahadunn> cjc: a little
[21:24] <ehcah> SteelPangolin: I beleive so. I created a 100GB partition with the sole role of hosting Virtual OS's. I can not change the /media/ drive or subfolders?
[21:25] <zebra_> ok, thank you very much :)
[21:25] <cjc> I need guidance on how to bridge my wireless and ethernet interfaces please
[21:25] <codydbgt> jordan_u: well i got a reply on the tocopick on the ubuntu fourms and he said to install grub 2 should i
[21:25] <Jordan_U> Fezzler: Other than suggesting you try to avoid flash wherever possible (http://youtube.com/html5 ) I can't really help you.
[21:25] <SteelPangolin> ehcah: could you please pastebin the output of cat /proc/mount for me?
[21:26] <ehcah> permissions remain: vdrwx------ 1 jason jason 0 2010-10-17
[21:26] <ehcah> just a sec...
[21:26] <Jordan_U> codydbgt: You already have grub2 installed.
[21:26] <codydbgt> oh
[21:26] <codydbgt> well heres the poast if you wat to add at a later time
[21:26] <codydbgt> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=9987848#post9987848
[21:26] <sunnyer> Salut, y'a des fran├¦ais ici ?
[21:27] <bahadunn> jeom: you could install 64bit but if you can not have more then 2gb ram I dont really see the reason to install 64bit
[21:27] <rockhopper> Hi, is installing xen virtualisation software in 10.10 same as on 10.04?
[21:27] <jeom> SteelPangolin : it is HP Mini 5102
[21:27] <codydbgt> jordan_u: so i sould find a irc windows chat room
[21:27] <codydbgt> is that what you were sayign
[21:27] <ehcah> SteelPangolin: I went back to /proc/ as root and cat: /proc/mount: No such file or directory
[21:27] <jeom> bahadunn : HP Mini 5102 with an Atom N450 processor (pinetrail). wubi automatically downloads the 64-bit version.
[21:27] <Jordan_U> codydbgt: Yes, there is one on this network: ##windows.
[21:27] <xenome> anyone know how to make X release it's hold on a device (ie /dev/input/XXX).  I need to reload the kernel module that created the device
[21:27] <altin>  hi, does anyone know why ubuntu 10.10 doesnt boot from live CD at some computers, even in good ones
[21:27] <altin> ??
[21:27] <bahadunn> jeom: yeah I know
[21:28] <codydbgt> why the double ##
[21:28] <SteelPangolin> ehcah: one sec, i may have the filename wrong, but meanwhile give this a skim: http://www.tuxera.com/community/ntfs-3g-advanced/ownership-and-permissions/
[21:28] <jeom> bahadunn : so it wouldn't have any benefit?
[21:28] <Jordan_U> codydbgt: That is to show that the channel is not affiliated with Microsoft, whereas #ubuntu is an official Ubuntu channel.
[21:28] <SteelPangolin> ehcah: sorry that's /proc/mounts, forgot the trailing s
[21:29] <SteelPangolin> ehcah: near as i can figure out it's like running the mount command with no args but shows some stuff that mount gets confused about
[21:29] <codydbgt> ok i guss....i still dont get it
[21:29] <maxpower> hey yall
[21:29] <codydbgt> oh well
[21:29] <rockhopper> What is the best virtualisation software for using in ubuntu?
[21:29] <guntbert> !best | RockerBoy402
[21:30] <guntbert> rockhopper: ^^
[21:30] <maxpower_> hah
[21:30] <ehcah> SteelPangolin: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/515222/
[21:30] <SteelPangolin> rockhopper: depends on your processor