[08:42] <xiong> hspaans, That's cool. I didn't think CPAN and Synaptic stuff would be the worst of it; they stick out. I worry more about little setup and config files scattered here and there.
[08:42] <Daughain> Dr_Willis: Tried a reinstall, and that popped an error for installing samba...
[08:42] <Daughain> dr_ listen to the whole thing. I'm going through it ste by step.
[08:42] <Gesi> when i try to delete it it says i dont have rights
[08:42] <theadmin> Gesi: Use sudo
[08:42] <xiong> hspaans, I'd like to avoid the paranoid full backup of the entire machine onto a spindle of DVDs.
[08:42] <Gesi> i used sudo rmdir ...
[08:42] <geirha> Gesi: You need to have write-permission to the folder containing the folder
[08:42] <Gesi> no effect
[08:43] <triplexxx> Dr_Willis: funny fu google and fu youtube should go in there so times videos are better even though I use videosurf.com
[08:43] <theadmin> Gesi: Try sudo rm -r name
[08:43] <Daughain> Dr_Willis: AT tat point I decided to switch to gnome to deal with samba, switched, and did a full package uninstall via synaptics. At that point it removed a large portion of kde apps.
[08:43] <hspaans> xiong: then switch from cpan to dh-make-perl, pear to dh-make-pear, etc
[08:43] <Gesi> it's the desktop
[08:43] <Gesi> i am trying
[08:43] <theadmin> Gesi: You can't delete the desktop I think.
[08:43] <Gesi> no no
[08:43] <Gesi> the folder containing it is the desktop
[08:44] <Gesi> haha
[08:44] <Daughain> Dr_Willis: In the middle of that uninstall, I oopsed and shtu off kdm, which kicked me to xtrerm, and I had to rbeoot to get back to gnome. Ran dpkg -a, and then ran the uninstall again...
[08:44] <hspaans> xiong: just buy a usb-hd, do a daiy rdiff-backup and keep a ubuntu install disk around
[08:44] <Gesi> why would i need to delete the desktop
[08:44] <theadmin> Gesi: Well, rm -r ~/Desktop/whatever
[08:44] <Gesi> theadmin, yes it worked
[08:44] <RocketLauncher> Openbox wont start... if I start it from xterm it works fine. Any idea why? i dont know how to save a log or anything so i cant reall do much
[08:44] <Gesi> thanks
[08:44] <Daughain> Dr_Willis: Once that was al done, I installed samba with no issues, buyt then ra across the error you helped me with.
[08:45] <Gesi> theadmin, and one question
[08:45] <hspaans> xiong: and if you're wise, just config the usb-hd with LUKS and it can be encrypted as well
[08:45] <xiong> hspaans, Sorry, we're not on the same wavelength on the CPAN issue anymore. I may need to study up. As for the USB HD, dunno. That could run into quite a bit of cash.
[08:45] <theadmin> Gesi: Yes?
[08:45] <Gesi> theadmin, i donwloaded Angry ip scanner and now it doesnt work and i cant uninstall it
[08:45] <Dr_Willis> RocketLauncher:   You could make a new desktop session to launch openbox and some other apps and hope to figure out whats going on with it.
[08:46] <theadmin> Gesi: You installed it via package or via some binary installer?
[08:46] <Gesi> theadmin, i installed from ubuntu soft. center
[08:46] <RocketLauncher> Dr_Willis, i'll try that
[08:46] <theadmin> Gesi: Hm, I don't know what package it is, but it should let you remove it the same way
[08:47] <hspaans> xiong: please study and don't worry. and the usb-hd, you can use them about 3 to 4 years for a daily rdiff-backup and set that price to say a weekly/daily backup to DVDs, but it is your money and your choice
[08:47] <kinja-sheep> Gesi, theadmin: I do not see any package for angry IP scanner. I think you obtained the DEB from jungle wilderness of Internet.
[08:47] <xiong> hspaans, Looks like I have about 33 Mb altogether. That's a dozen DVDs -- doable but unpleasant. I'd like to make a more intelligent selection during the backup phase.
[08:48] <theadmin> kinja-sheep: He sedzit it's present in USC... are you running Karmic at least?
[08:48] <RocketLauncher> Dr_Willis, i tried launching openbox from windowmaker and it worked just fine
[08:48] <misterB> Does anybody know of a free vpn service that works with Ubuntu?
[08:48] <Gesi> kinja-sheep theadmin ,sorry i got it from sourceforge and installed it
[08:48] <kinja-sheep> theadmin: Yes I am.
[08:48] <kinja-sheep> !away > JimmyJ|zz
[08:48] <Daughain> This us setriously gonna get on my nerves tonight....
[08:48] <theadmin> Gesi: Ah, makes sense then... Hm, was it a .deb file?
[08:48] <hspaans> xiong: http://rdiff-backup.nongnu.org/ <-- just take your time to read up what you need
[08:49] <Gesi> theadmin, i think it was another format
[08:49] <xiong> hspaans, For CPAN, why not perl -MCPAN -e autobundle
[08:49] <kinja-sheep> theadmin: Open a terminal --> "apt-cache search angry" Look for installed package.
[08:49] <Gesi> theadmin, mayge sth starting with r
[08:49] <theadmin> Gesi: RPM?!
[08:49] <Dr_Willis> RocketLauncher:  err.. launching one window manager from a 2nd window manager? thats a little weird. :)
[08:49] <Gesi> theadmin, yes
[08:49] <ms_> hello
[08:49] <theadmin> Gesi: That is not an ubuntish format
[08:50] <kinja-sheep> !rpm | Gesi
[08:50] <kinja-sheep> Gesi: In the future, use the repository or .deb packages.
[08:50] <Gesi> theadmin, i conerted it with alien someone told me how to
[08:50] <RocketLauncher> Dr_Willis, well there's a menu for that
[08:50] <Daughain> This is why I run kde over gnome.....
[08:50] <hspaans> xiong: for CPAN, you may not want to bypass the dpkg. make-dh-perl just creates a DEB-package from CPAN and it will always show up in packagemanagers
[08:50] <theadmin> Gesi: Well, sorry, I've no idea how to use those on Ubuntu, it's actually not recommended
[08:51] <kinja-sheep> Gesi: "apt-cache search ipscan" -- You see any installed packages?
[08:51] <xiong> hspaans, By "study up" I meant getting the list of installed Perl modules. I want to do this carefully and vet the list by hand, since there's issues with XML::SAX.
[08:51] <xiong> hspaans, I have always installed from CPAN using cpan.
[08:51] <theadmin> Kinja-sheep: He did not use APT to install it, so it won't be in apt-cache at all.
[08:52] <hspaans> xiong: so also in your dpkg --get-selections for example, but there is also a copy of that in /var/backups
[08:52] <Dr_Willis> RocketLauncher:  thats exiting windowmanager and starting openbox. theres also a GDM session to just launch a terminal you may want to try. How else are you trying to start openbox?
[08:52] <kinja-sheep> theadmin: If he used alien to convert it, it could be.
[08:52] <RocketLauncher> Dr_Willis, gdm
[08:53] <hspaans> xiong: you're replacing libxml-sax-perl in ubuntu?
[08:53] <Dr_Willis> RocketLauncher:  its possible the gdm session (openbox.desktop) or whatever entry is doing somthing wrong. You couild make your own.
[08:53] <theadmin> kinja-sheep: Oh.
[08:53] <wangyang> hello
[08:53] <xiong> hspaans, Anyway, this really isn't my worry. I'm confident I can restore the list of installed Perl modules; I'm confident I can restore installled software and despite the time required, I'll probably do that all from the network and get fresh only. I'm much more worried about the little config files scattered about; and I'm very slow to spend money on hardware, sorry.
[08:53] <theadmin> Does anyone here know what graphical library does xpaint use? Does not seem it's GTK, nor it looks Qt-ish
[08:54] <RocketLauncher> Dr_Willis, i dont know how
[08:54] <deostroll> how do you create a shortcut via terminal
[08:55] <Dr_Willis> RocketLauncher:  make a script called for example 'startopenbox.sh'  use the commands 'xterm &    then exec openbox' (2 lines) in it. and find/copy the openbox.desktop entry for gdm and rename.edit it to make it launch your new script.
[08:55] <psycho_oreos> man ln
[08:55] <wolter> deostroll, ^
[08:55] <hspaans> xiong: how much data do you have then?
[08:55] <theadmin> deostroll: ln -s /location/of/file shortcut-filename is the quickest way
[08:55] <RocketLauncher> Dr_Willis, where openbox.desktop by the way
[08:56] <xiong> hspaans, I seem to have, at some point, installed XML::SAX from CPAN using cpan. This caused a bad conflict. I eventually removed all copies of it, which led to disaster, since apt/Synaptic depends on it to install stuff. So I had to install it from CPAN using cpan anyway, which may be the root of some of my issues. I want to be absolutely sure I don't fall into this trap again, so (not only for this reason) I plan to vet the CPAN
[08:56] <xiong>  list by hand before restoring.
[08:56] <Gesi> kinja-sheep, it says apt-catche is not found
[08:56] <Dr_Willis> RocketLauncher:  use 'locate openbox.desktop' if thats its proper name.. it may be called somthing else.
[08:56] <theadmin> Gesi: It is apt-cache, not apt-catche
[08:56] <xiong> hspaans, The entire filesystem is about 35 Gb.
[08:56] <Dr_Willis> RocketLauncher:  or use  'locate gnome.desktop' and it is proberly in teh same place
[08:56] <deostroll> theadmin thanx, no actually thank u all...
[08:57] <Dr_Willis>  RocketLauncher  /usr/share/xsessions/
[08:57] <RocketLauncher> Dr_Willis, ok
[08:57] <Gesi> theadmin, it sHOWS ONLY angry ip scanner
[08:57] <Dr_Willis> RocketLauncher:  i have 3 different openbox related .desktop files.. i rember why i dident care for openbox now.. :)
[08:57] <Gesi> theadmin, kinja-sheep: and a short description
[08:57] <theadmin> Gesi: Great, so then, what is exactly what it gives? Please paste it to ubuntu.pastebin.com and give the link
[08:57] <hspaans> xiong: ow you used cpan to replace software installed with a package manager, you on your own on that one
[08:58] <misterB> Anybody know how to get hotspot sheild or some other free VPN working on Ubuntu?
[08:58] <xiong> hspaans, I figure it's stupid to get a deliberately small piece of hardware, since a Tb can be had for about $100
[08:58] <Dr_Willis> RocketLauncher:  openbox.desktop is running the rather complex script openbox-session so it could be thats failing.
[08:58] <xiong> hspaans, Yes, it was careless. That's why I want to be double sure I don't do it again.
[08:58] <t1n0m3n> whew, finally got my RT2870USB wifi working
[08:58] <Oak> What's the command to force architecture on a package meant for i368 for a 64 system? I need to install this deb.
[08:58] <Dr_Willis> RocketLauncher:  as a test you could go to just the failsafe terminal X session and try the command 'openbox-session' and look for error messages
[08:58] <hspaans> xiong: then switch to dh-make-perl instead of native CPAN
[08:59] <RocketLauncher> Dr_Willis, i might try that
[08:59] <theadmin> Oak: Is no x64 version available?
[08:59] <phobos_> hi all
[08:59] <Oak> theadmin: I wish
[08:59] <Dr_Willis> RocketLauncher:  its not too complex a script I guess. :) im looking at it now.
[08:59] <theadmin> Oak: okay, let me see the mans
[08:59] <Gesi> theadmin, i think it this http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/db423b51
[08:59] <Bear10> I set up a SVN directory, and I set the folder permissions recursively to owner be www-data, and the group to be subversion, they have full permissions, and i belong to the group subversion, however when I try to create some directory or something via svn i get a "cannot open file .../db/text-current-lock permission denied"
[08:59] <RocketLauncher> Dr_Willis, anyways you just want me to make a file with: xterm & (new line) exec openbox
[08:59] <xiong> hspaans, Okay, let's move on from that. It's really not the issue. The issue is the *other* 33 Gb.
[08:59] <RocketLauncher> and rename it openbox.desktop?
[08:59] <Bear10> However if I set myself to the owner of the folder (rather than part of the group) its fine :/
[09:00] <Dr_Willis> RocketLauncher:  that would be a testing session.. no need to rename the ting, You could make your OWN 'myopenbox-session' script and try it.. or just try the stuff from that failsafe X session with just the terminal
[09:00] <theadmin> Gesi: Okay, run "sudo apt-get remove ipscan && sudo apt-get autoremove" to remove it
[09:00] <RocketLauncher> Dr_Willis, i'll try the failsafe right now
[09:00] <phobos_> plz can u tell me on which port noip2 is running?? the port 53 no?
[09:01] <Daughain> Can samba be set to allow access without needing to login each time?
[09:01]  * Dr_Willis has never heard of noip2
[09:01] <Dr_Willis> Daughain:  yes.
[09:01] <Gesi> theadmin, sorry but please i am trying to understand it too
[09:01] <Dr_Willis> !info samba-doc | Daughain
[09:01] <deostroll> theadmin: sorry problem again! I created the link using ln but can't execute the prog via the run app dialog (alt + F2)
[09:01] <xiong> Here's 1.5 Tb for $140: http://www.google.com/products/catalog?q=usb+hard+drive&oe=utf-8&ved=0CDsQrQQwAg&cid=1970056161596839468&sa=title#p
[09:01] <hspaans> xiong: have a look at rdiff-backup
[09:01] <Dr_Willis> Daughain:  samba can be set up to doo alll sprts of thiongs. :)
[09:01] <Daughain> All sorts of thongs?? So can I. =)
[09:02] <Gesi> theadmin, why do you have to use remove && ... autoremove
[09:02] <Gesi> ???
[09:02] <hspaans> xiong: with rdiff-backup you can have a timemachine like solution
[09:03] <Gesi> theadmin, it's gone thanks
[09:03] <Daughain> Ummm...WHats samba4????
[09:03] <theadmin> Gesi: Well, autoremove helps to get rid of unneeded dependencies
[09:03] <xiong> hspaans, Sorry, I don't think we're on the same wavelength. My issue is buying the hardware vs burning DVD (all) vs burning only some of the filesystem. Even with a complete, full backup, there's the issue of figuring out *what* to restore. Obviously, I don't want to restore anything that is now *causing* the issues I'm having. It would be foolish and pointless to do a backup, a fresh install, and a complete restore.
[09:03] <Gesi> theadmin, aha thanks
[09:04] <iceroot> deostroll: what are yoo trying to start? and how do you do it?
[09:04] <RocketLauncher> Dr_Willis, there's no failsafe x
[09:04] <Daughain> Dr_Willis: OK, now how do I read the doc?
[09:04] <RocketLauncher> just a failsafe gnome
[09:04] <Gesi> theadmin, and is there any option like for ex. when i press Shift,rightclick on a folder there is shown an option  which allows me to start terminal in the current directory
[09:05] <Gesi> theadmin, i mean vista like
[09:05] <Dr_Willis> Daughain:  it isntalls to /usr/share/docs I recall. :)
[09:05] <deostroll> iceroot: tweetdeck...the executable path is in /opt/TweetDeck/bin/TweetDeck
[09:05] <xiong> hspaans, As I said (and as I knew before), the right way to handle this is to make a paper notebook of every weird little corner case and one-char edit to obscure config files *as* you do them. I just didn't -- dunno why.
[09:05] <theadmin> Gesi: Sorry, don't know, maybe is possible
[09:05] <iceroot> deostroll: so you are using ./opt/TweetDeck/bin/TweetDeck ?
[09:05] <xiong> hspaans, Right now, I do not know exactly how my machine differs from a default install.
[09:05] <iceroot> deostroll: after using chmod +x on it?
[09:05] <Gesi> theadmin, ok thanks ,now i ll have morning bye
[09:05] <Dr_Willis> RocketLauncher:  no session just to start a xterm ? Hmm.. i got one here.. wonder where it came from
[09:06] <Daughain> Dr_Willis: As in read <path> samba??
[09:06] <deostroll> iceroot: chmod which? the link or the executable?
[09:06] <iceroot> deostroll: executable
[09:06] <Daughain> That didnt work.......
[09:06] <Dr_Willis>  /usr/share/doc/samba-doc/htmldocs
[09:06] <Gesi> theadmin, :)
[09:07] <Daughain> Thanks again.
[09:07] <RocketLauncher> Dr_Willis, oh i got one
[09:07] <Dr_Willis> Daughain:  as in go to the directory and look at the files. :P
[09:07] <koshari> Gesi you can get a nautilus script that opens terminal here
[09:07] <xiong> hspaans, In fact, I'm just about certain that no amount of backing up is going to cover the whole thing. For instance, I recall that wine needs a special little script run before it's set up properly on my machine.
[09:07] <Dr_Willis> Daughain:  its proberly overkill.. but its worth a read.
[09:07] <RocketLauncher> Dr_Willis, i'll try it again, i didnt look for error messages last time
[09:07] <iceroot> deostroll: is it a shell script? then you can also use sh /path/to/the/file
[09:07]  * Dr_Willis thinks Rocketlauincher needs to switch to irssi in the console
[09:07] <deostroll> iceroot: i think it has executable permission...when i double click on the exe it launches the app...
[09:08] <Daughain> Dr_Willis: going to the dir is a great idea, if you have a clue wat you are looking for. ;P
[09:08] <xiong> Beware All You Sinners! It is correct practice to keep a small, paper notebook and write down it in *every* system configuration change, patch, and fix you make. It might take you a week to get your sound card working the first time but if it's right, you'll never touch it again, and you'll forget what you did to make it work. That notebook is your salvation come fresh install time.
[09:09] <rocketlauncher> Dr_Willis, I get Openbox is configured for 4 desktops,  but the current session has 1. Overriding the Openbox configuration. Openbox-Message: Unable to find a valid menu file "debian-menu.xml"
[09:10] <Jasonrj> Or, if you're out of paper, visit #ubuntu and ask to borrow xiong's notes.
[09:10] <deostroll> iceroot: how do i know if it is a shell script...? There shud b an icon f some sort right?
[09:10]  * xiong steals Jasonrj's pencil
[09:10] <Igramul> Hi, how can I configure the window manager so that pop ups (e.g. password prompts) do not steal the focus? It would be ideal, if those windows just blinked in the task bar.
[09:10] <hspaans> xiong: my notes normally end up as bug-IDs or patches
[09:11] <hspaans> xiong: or as part of a design document
[09:11] <xiong> Well, it's highly tempting, for those with several terabytes of disk, to put a .git/ repo in /.
[09:12] <hspaans> xiong: rm rf ~ solves that issue
[09:12] <Dr_Willis> rocketlauncher:  just warniongs.. no real error.. does it start then?
[09:12] <rocketlauncher> in xterm, yes
[09:12] <rocketlauncher> Dr_Willis, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/openbox/+bug/459005 i'm reading this
[09:12] <Dr_Willis> Daughain:  i think theres some doc/help icon in ubuntu that heads to that location.. but i always remove that icon
[09:13] <Daughain> Dr_Willis: Definitely overkill......I dont even have a clue what doc to look at. :P
[09:13] <Dr_Willis> Daughain:  start with 'using samba' :) chapter 1
[09:13] <Daughain> Dr_Willis:  I found it. =) Just lost now. =)
[09:14] <Dr_Willis> rocketlauncher:  seems to be some issue with gnome-settings deamon
[09:15] <Daughain> friggin html bs...
[09:16] <rocketlauncher> Dr_Willis, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/openbox/+bug/459005/comments/4 is a solution but I'm not sure
[09:16] <rocketlauncher> if i should use it
[09:16] <Dr_Willis> Daughain:  you would rather have it in ascii text?
[09:16] <Daughain> Dr_Willis: Sure.
[09:17] <Dr_Willis> !info html2ascii
[09:17] <Dr_Willis> Hmm what is that packatge name....
[09:17] <Daughain> lol
[09:17] <llutz> html2text
[09:17] <Daughain> I'm reading it now.
[09:18] <infid> how can i skin Rhythmbox or at least change the background color?
[09:18] <Dr_Willis> rocketlauncher:  you could try it. i dont see why just making it sleep for  30 sec is a bad thing.. then again you might not even want to start gnome-settings-daemon
[09:18] <llutz> !html2text
[09:18] <rocketlauncher> Dr_Willis, i really dont know what to do though
[09:18] <llutz> !info html2text
[09:19] <rocketlauncher> Dr_Willis, oh he just added sleep 30 and the rest.. at the bottom
[09:19] <rocketlauncher> Dr_Willis, just read it wrong.. i'll try it
[09:19] <Dr_Willis> rocketlauncher:  alter your autostart.sh like the one he shows i guess.
[09:19] <Dr_Willis> :)
[09:19] <rocketlauncher> Dr_Willis, yeah
[09:20] <rocketlauncher> wish he didn't paste the entire autostart.sh as if it was necessary, it confused me there
[09:20] <rocketlauncher> then starts talking in the middle..
[09:20] <Dr_Willis> rocketlauncher:  as a dirty work around you could just have it not run the autostart. it seems thats causing the whold crash
[09:20] <rdz> hi all. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel/Compile says, that wanting another driver is no reason to compile a custom kernel. however, since in karmic many previous modules are now compiled into the kernel. how can use something like phc-linux _without_ compiling my own kernel?
[09:20] <Dr_Willis> rocketlauncher:  yep. he dident use the proper codeblock/features in teh post
[09:21] <rocketlauncher> Dr_Willis, i don't have an autostart there
[09:21] <infid> how come smbclient -L //myPC  shows stuff but smbtree myPC doesn't? is there some firewall port i have to open
[09:22] <rocketlauncher> Dr_Willis, mines is in /etc/xdg/openbox/autostart.sh my bad
[09:24] <Daughain> Dr_Willis: Neat doc...I coudnt find a mention of the gui I am using though..
[09:24] <mud_bat> is there a windows printscreen equivalent for taking a screenshot in Ubuntu
[09:25] <koshari> xiong i prefer a wiki
[09:25] <ardchoille> mud_bat: the print screen key, or shift print screen
[09:26] <koshari> mud_bat yes, its even better
[09:26] <RocketLauncher> Dr_Willis, doesn't work
[09:26] <koshari> mud_bat > accesorries > print screen
[09:26] <ardchoille> mud_bat: you can also install Shutter, it's even better
[09:26] <ut4ugq> hi all
[09:26] <mud_bat> it's not working for me... I'll try shutter.  Thanks all
[09:26] <ardchoille> mud_bat: are you on Karmic?
[09:27] <koshari> mud_bat hows it not working?
[09:27] <mud_bat> it does nothing
[09:27] <Dr_Willis> Daughain:  what gui?
[09:27] <ardchoille> mud_bat: if you're on Karmic: sudo apt-get install shutter
[09:28] <Daughain> system-config-samba
[09:28] <Dr_Willis> Daughain:  never heard of it, or never used it.. :) i just edit the smb.conf file
[09:28] <Daughain> Dr_Willis: Some of us are newbies. =)
[09:29] <infid> i shared a folder from Nautilus by going into the properies>share>create share  but it's not showing up in /etc/samba/smb.conf. any idea why not?
[09:29] <Dr_Willis> Daughain:  thats why you ar reading the books...
[09:29] <mud_bat> I don't know if I'm on Karmic or not... I updated within a couple months
[09:29] <Dr_Willis> infid:  because the settings for that are not stored there. :) they are in  /var/lib/samba I think
[09:30] <ardchoille> mud_bat: lsb_release -r
[09:30] <Dr_Willis> infid:  they are in  /var/lib/samba/usershares
[09:30] <iceroot> Daughain: if you want a gui for samba use SWAT but the better way is vim + conf-file
[09:30] <Dr_Willis> I find using SWAT really messes me up.
[09:30] <mud_bat> ardchoille: 9.04
[09:31] <ardchoille> !info shutter jaunty
[09:31] <infid> Dr_Willis:  thanks
[09:31] <Daughain> OK, I'm a newb, and am trying to do this the way that makes the most sense for me to learn.
[09:31] <iceroot> Dr_Willis: as every gui but its a good way to start if someone doesnt like the conf-file
[09:31] <infid> Dr_Willis: also, how come smbclient -L //myPC  shows stuff but smbtree myPC doesn't? is there some firewall port i have to open
[09:31] <Daughain> and reading these docs usualy confuses me.
[09:31] <ardchoille> mud_bat: you'll have to find a PPA for shutter
[09:31] <iceroot> Daughain: the best way of learning is vim + conf-file
[09:31]  * Daughain is a mechanic, not progrtammer.
[09:31] <ardchoille> mud_bat: you can search for a PPA here:  https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ppas
[09:31] <mud_bat> Karmic the latest release?
[09:31] <iceroot> mud_bat: yes
[09:31] <ardchoille> mud_bat: yes
[09:32] <mud_bat> I can just update again
[09:32] <Daughain> iceroot: WHats a vim + conf-file?
[09:32] <iceroot> Daughain: vim is a text-editor
[09:32] <infid> config files dont require programming
[09:32] <ardchoille> mud_bat: That would be good, Karmic is pretty nice IMHO
[09:32] <infid> they're name-value pairs, ie  'foo=bar'
[09:32] <iceroot> Daughain: sorry, let me correct this, vim is THE editor for the cli
[09:32] <infid> instead of clicking on 'foo' in a gui and selecting 'bar'
[09:32] <ardchoille> iceroot: seconded :)
[09:32] <bhargava> is updating kernel or getting the latest version of distro the same
[09:33] <mud_bat> thanks for the help all
[09:33] <iceroot> ardchoille: of course not :)
[09:33] <ardchoille> iceroot: meaning "Isecond that"
[09:33] <iceroot> ardchoille: ah ok
[09:33] <Daughain> iceroot: Let me correct myself. I have almost 1.5 months on linux, and minimal programming background. tuts and docs tend to confuse me, and I have no clue what a cli is.
[09:34] <hspaans> bhargava: no and you may want to stick with the latest stable version of the distro you're using
[09:34] <ardchoille> emacs is a nice OS, hopefully someone will write a good text editor for it someday
[09:34] <tamran> howdy everyone
[09:34] <infid> GUIs are really over rated. they only give the illusion of being easier because they put a buncha options in front of you to chose, vs writing something manually in a config file where you have to type the values and sometimes the names (which requires finding the list of names, just in docs rather than the current window)
[09:34] <bhargava> oh
[09:34] <iceroot> Daughain: cli = command line interface
[09:34] <RobLikesBrunch> Daughain: cli = command-line interface
[09:34] <RobLikesBrunch> Oops, iceroot beat me to it.
[09:34] <shuaib> Hi guys, trying to setup ip masquerading on my unbuntu 9.10, but running into all sorts of iptables problems, probably the service isn't even running and chkconfig and service aren't even able to identify the service.
[09:34] <shuaib> Any clue?
[09:34] <Dr_Willis> infid:  ive noticed that also.. not sure whatsg going on. theres no default firewall ports blocked
[09:34] <iceroot> RobLikesBrunch: :)
[09:34] <infid> Dr_Willis: well if i disable ufw smbtree works again
[09:34] <meganerd> Daughain: that is fine, but if you want to actually use your computer to its potential, the command line is your friend
[09:34]  * Daughain grins..
[09:34] <Daughain> See what I mean about being a newb?
[09:35] <RobLikesBrunch> meganerd: Best friend! <3
[09:35] <Dr_Willis> infid:  thats not 'bu default' :) so siounds like ya got somting blocked.
[09:35] <Daughain> meganerd: I agree.....Gimme a few more months, and I will be doing even more thorugh it.
[09:35] <bhargava> but what new features distro has are the ones in the kernel
[09:35] <infid> Dr_Willis: but i'm currently opening 137, 138, 139 and 445
[09:35] <Diverdude> is there a built in dictionary in ubuntu?
[09:35] <xiong> koshari, I like wikis too; I've run a few. But I don't see how to use one to track my system configuration.
[09:35] <shuaib> Or if someone could tell me an easeir way to convert my ubuntu machine into a wifi hotspot :)
[09:35] <RobLikesBrunch> Daughain: I'm rather new to Linux myself--and at first the command-line was very confusing to me because I had been using a GUI for all my previous computing experience.
[09:35] <Daughain> right now, I need to get my baqsic lan setup, then I can worry about the more interesting things.
[09:35] <tamran> can anyone reccomend to me a secure way to copy files from one ubuntu computer to another across a home network?  I used to use ssh years ago (haven't used linux in a while this way) however I have heard ssh wasn't so secure?
[09:35] <iceroot> tamran: scp
[09:35] <meganerd> Daughain: you may wish to start with nano, I can't live without vim anymore, even on windows, but nano will behave in a fashion that you probably already expect
[09:36] <Daughain> RobLikesBrunch: U cut my teeth on unix *many* years ago.
[09:36] <rww_> tamran: ssh is fine
[09:36] <llutz> tamran: you won't find something more secure
[09:36] <meganerd> tamran: scp, lftp fish://
[09:36] <iceroot> tamran: ssh is the most secure thing you will find
[09:36] <meganerd> rsync + ssh
[09:36] <RobLikesBrunch> Daughain: Ah :P
[09:36] <mRmiSta> hey all, got a problem with /dev/null being mod600 upon reboot, so non 'root' users cant access it, how to perm change to 666 ?
[09:36] <tamran> thanks iceroot, rww_ and llutz
[09:36] <Diverdude> is there a built in dictionary in ubuntu?
[09:36] <Daughain> cli doesnt bother or scare me, I just dont know enough to make it too useful as of yet.
[09:36] <infid> Daughain:  don't feel bad about being a noob. a noob in linux will probably advance at software faster than a windows noob, out of necessity of using the o/s. although ubuntu is getting really good at being thinkless
[09:37] <iceroot> tamran: scp localfile user@server:/path/to/save/the/file
[09:37] <meganerd> shuaib: there is no iptables service
[09:37] <RobLikesBrunch> Diverdude: There is. Office --> Dictionary. Or alt + f2 and type gnome-dictionary.
[09:37] <bhargava> exit
[09:37] <shuaib> meganerd, then how am I supposed to setup ip masquerading on ubuntu? Or do you mean I have to setup the iptables service first?
[09:37] <Daughain> infid: I dont feel bad, I just need to keep explaining, because people keep talking above my head. =) STarted going bald about a month ago. =)
[09:37] <tamran> ok, one more question ... back in the good  old gentoo days, I would set up ssh listening via /etc/init.d/ ... how do I go about enabling it in  gentoo?  ssh is not in that folder
[09:38] <iceroot> tamran: #gentoo
[09:38] <infid> i don't care how many decent guis are created for linux, i will never abandon the cli. it's just so much faster
[09:38] <meganerd> shuaib: usually you create a script that sets up the rules
[09:38] <tamran> iceroot: I'm in ubuntu now
[09:38] <Daughain> Right now, all I wanna know is what authentication mode to use to allow my lan to not require a pwd everytime it connects.
[09:38] <Diverdude> RobLikesBrunch, i see...and is it possible to put new languages into this dictionary?
[09:38] <dobblego> why doesn't my microphone input volume persist? it keep going back to very low
[09:38] <shuaib> meganerd, rules for what? If iptables doesn't even exist on the system?
[09:38] <meganerd> infid: yup, there is a reason microsoft took the trouble of inventing powershell
[09:38] <iceroot> tamran: correct but this is not gentoo support
[09:38] <RobLikesBrunch> Diverdude: Edit --> Preferences --> Source
[09:38] <tamran> oh ...
[09:39] <meganerd> shuaib: it is built in to the kernel, so it is just there, waiting for you to do stuff
[09:39] <shuaib> meganerd, any idea how to start the service?
[09:39] <shuaib> The normal starting ain't working
[09:39] <meganerd> shuaib: by default ubuntu has no listening services, so there are no rules defined
[09:39] <shuaib> service iptables start not working
[09:39] <Diverdude> RobLikesBrunch, okay....And how do i find the correct dictionary then?
[09:39] <meganerd> shuaib: it is not a service
[09:39] <RobLikesBrunch> Diverdude: And I believe that you can download sources directly from Synaptic.
[09:39] <tamran> iceroot: thanks again.  However, I've not used gentoo for years.  I'm trying to do it in ubuntu  and it's all different
[09:39] <infid> i just dont get how smbclient -L //hostname  can work and smbtree hostname and findsmb hostname don't, even though my firewall is the same during all those commands
[09:39] <shuaib> meganerd, aah, then...?
[09:39] <RobLikesBrunch> Diverdude: Let me check.
[09:39] <meganerd> shuaib: there is nothing to start
[09:40] <shuaib> meganerd, the tutorials I am reading on net describe it so
[09:40] <nafi> how to install printer : canon ip1980
[09:40] <tamran> the commands and such I know
[09:40] <iceroot> tamran: in ubuntu there is /etc/init.d/ssh
[09:40] <shuaib> You mean it is different now?
[09:40] <tamran> oh ...
[09:40] <meganerd> shuaib "sudo iptables -L" will tell you what rules are defined, there should not be any
[09:40] <tamran> I must not have installed the service
[09:40] <Diverdude> RobLikesBrunch, Forexample if i want a danish/english, English/Dansih dictionary
[09:40] <llutz> tamran: openssh-server
[09:40] <mRmiSta> how to fix -> bash: /dev/null: Permission denied <- for non root users?
[09:40] <shuaib> meganerd, yea, there aren't
[09:40] <iceroot> tamran: sudo apt-get install openssh-server
[09:40] <tamran> llutz: ahhh, ok thanks
[09:41] <tamran> iceroot: installing.  Thank you kindly :)
[09:41] <meganerd> shuaib: just start defining things from the command line
[09:41] <RobLikesBrunch> Diverdude: Oh. Okay, one moment.
[09:41] <infid> mRmiSta: what are you doing to get that error
[09:41] <meganerd> I would put it all in a script
[09:41] <meganerd> you may wish to look at the fwbuilder package to help you get started
[09:41] <shuaib> There is no need for starting/restarting the service? How do I save those rules?
[09:41] <iceroot> tamran: ubuntu does not come with ssh-server by default
[09:41] <Diverdude> RobLikesBrunch, Alright
[09:41] <meganerd> some GUI front ends refer to it as a service, but this is not really accurate, it is just easier for windows people to grok
[09:42] <shuaib> meganerd, Aha,  There is no need for starting/restarting the service? How do I save those rules?
[09:42] <infid> tamran yeah you gotta 'sudo apt-get install openssh-server' then 'sudo ufw allow 22/tcp' or whatever your firewall requires
[09:42] <shuaib> meganerd, coz I did define some rules, and seems like system restart has flushed them out
[09:42] <meganerd> gotta run, I can help you with firewall rules later if you are around, I do that for a living
[09:42] <mRmiSta> /dev/null has access 600, so only root can access, i have non root accounts that need /dev/null access, eg eggdrop bot, but get permission denied.
[09:42] <pdg1> has anyone here gotten a sec Slave drive - ATAPI incompatible error at boot and fixed it?
[09:42] <shuaib> meganerd, aah, wish you could be here for a while
[09:42] <shuaib> See you later mate
[09:42] <meganerd> shuaib: yes, you need to put them in a script which is where they will be remmeberd
[09:42] <mRmiSta> if i delete /dev/null and mknod etc, then it all works again.
[09:43] <shuaib> meganerd, okie
[09:43] <mRmiSta> but upon reboot, its back to 600.
[09:43] <llutz> mRmiSta: udev-bug?
[09:43] <mRmiSta> i think so, yes.
[09:43] <mRmiSta> as udev restart fails
[09:43] <infid> mRmiSta: oh weird. not sure. my /dev/null is 0666, which allows non root users to use it
[09:44] <what> crw-rw-rw- 1 root root 1, 3 Feb 16  2009 /dev/null
[09:44] <RobLikesBrunch> Diverdude: Sorry. You can add an English/Danish dictionary, but I'm trying to figure out how. I haven't done it before.
[09:44] <what> thats your default dev null permissions, congradulations
[09:44] <mRmiSta> etc/init.d/udev restart = Kernel uevent sequence number not available, cowardly not restarting udev
[09:44] <Darkedge> i have a special keybord that is meant to let me control volume when I press the volume+ key, I see the little volume bar appear, except the volume doesn't actully change, any ideas? >.>
[09:44] <mRmiSta> thats the error i get for udev
[09:45] <Diverdude> RobLikesBrunch, i see...It seems to be quite advanced to do so
[09:45] <infid> Darkedge: in the keyboard preferences in the system menu are you sure you have that set under 'volume up/down'?
[09:45] <what> god does anyone in here even BOTHER to google?
[09:45] <pdg1> the problem is i don't even know how to trouble shoot this kind of problem
[09:45] <what> Darkedge: try google.
[09:45] <ardchoille> !google
[09:45] <infid> google and irc don't mix, kinda like google and china
[09:45] <nafi> i can't install my printer (canon ip1980)
[09:45] <mRmiSta> llutz: crw------- 1 root root 1, 3 Jan 17 08:25 /dev/null, so no user accounts can access it, only root.
[09:46] <what> ardchoille: rather than showing me a crap line in some random crap bot lets do this. www.googleguide.com go read, learn and stfu
[09:46] <mRmiSta> ive tried google/ubutu forums... nothing.
[09:46]  * tamran is copying files ...
[09:46] <what> mRmiSta: i showed u the permissions
[09:46] <ardchoille> what: people come here to get answers from others who might have lived through their problem already. they don't come here only to be sent to google
[09:46] <what> crw-rw-rw-
[09:46] <ardchoille> !stfu | what
[09:46] <infid> there should be an irssi script that automatically runs google on any message containing a question mark
[09:47] <what> ardchoille: that is no excuse for not doing ANY reasearch
[09:47] <what> s/reasearch/research
[09:47] <RobLikesBrunch> Diverdude: I think I almost got it. One moment.
[09:47] <ardchoille> what: Calm down, not everyone is as research minded as you are.
[09:47] <Diverdude> RobLikesBrunch, ahh nice ok :)
[09:47] <what> ardchoille: then go install windows lol
[09:47] <infid> asking on irc technically is research
[09:47] <mRmiSta> what: if i delete /dev/null, and mknod it works, but upon reset/reboot, the permissions are back to 600
[09:47] <what> if you wanna have a GOOD operating system you need GOOD habbits for it to run right
[09:47] <ardchoille> what: please be productive and respectful to others
[09:47] <what> otherwise youll end up disabling many things that would other wise protect, or not configure things that should be
[09:48] <pdg1> kick him... i want to see blood :D
[09:48] <what> ardchoille: if your talking about yourself its not happening.
[09:48] <EastDallas> can't someone boot this guy?
[09:48] <what> pdg1: i've a half dozen clones it wont do anyhting lol
[09:48] <pdg1> lol
[09:48] <infid> mRmiSta: man pages are also good. from what i can tell in man mknod, you need to use '-m' or '--mode' to set the umask
[09:48] <pdg1> don't ask me... i hate computers
[09:49] <what> ok gosh, let me SHOW you how to google.
[09:49] <Dr_Willis> s -l /dev/null
[09:49] <Dr_Willis> crw-rw-rw- 1 root root 1, 3 2010-01-14 14:03 /dev/null
[09:49] <llutz> infid: what should it help if udev creates device with wrong permissions after reboot?
[09:49] <pdg1> lmgtfy.com ?
[09:49] <Dr_Willis> hmm.. whats the c mean.. i forget...
[09:49] <llutz> Dr_Willis: character device
[09:49] <what> c denotes a character special file
[09:50] <infid> oh yeah forgot about udev, there's probably somethign similar for udev
[09:50] <Diverdude> RobLikesBrunch, got it?
[09:50] <RobLikesBrunch> Diverdude: Can you check something for me? Go to Office -- Dictionary --> Preferences --> Source and see if you get an "Advanced" button.
[09:51] <Diverdude> RobLikesBrunch, no i only have Add, Remove, Help and Close there
[09:52] <mRmiSta> llutz and infid, udev doesnt restart (no idea why) and /dev/null goes back to 600 upon reboot. not sure how to fix.
[09:52] <ardchoille> The notifications bubbles that popup in the upper right corner in KArmix. How can I theme those?
[09:52] <RobLikesBrunch> Diverdude: Me too, but on older versions there was an "Advanced settings" button that allowed you to select which dictionary you wanted...so I need to figure that out.
[09:52] <ardchoille> s/KArmix/Karmic/
[09:52] <llutz> mRmiSta: no idea, but i guess if you fix udev, /dev/null will be ok too
[09:53] <Diverdude> RobLikesBrunch, i wonder if they moved that button to somewhere else
[09:53] <mRmiSta> llutz, ive been trying. :/ no evail 'yet'
[09:53] <RobLikesBrunch> Diverdude: But if you install the dict pacakage (sudo apt-get install dict) and then type (dict -h dict.org --dbs | grep Danish) you'll see that there is an English-Danish dictionary.
[09:53] <fpb> Does anybody have good instructions on installing hamachi on ubuntu?
[09:53] <Diverdude> RobLikesBrunch, But isn't that what the addbutton does?
[09:53] <RobLikesBrunch> Diverdude: So I'm just trying to see how to install it :3
[09:53] <RobLikesBrunch> Diverdude: Yes, but then it just adds a "generic" dictionary. One sec. I'll look into it.
[09:54] <pdg1> so i googled the  sec Slave drive - ATAPI incompatible error i got and all the solutions people had don't seem to be fixing the problem for me. I just installed a new SATA HDD... and have since removed it trying to fix the problem. does anyone have input?
[09:54] <mRmiSta> i keep getting -> Can not write log, openpty() failed (/dev/pts not mounted?) error also upon apt-get :/
[09:55] <mRmiSta> although its mounted -> devpts 128M 4.0K 128M 1% /dev/pts
[09:55] <przemo_one> hi
[09:56] <przemo_one> testing colour
[09:56] <przemo_one> testing
[09:56] <RobLikesBrunch> Diverdude: It seems a lot of people don't have advanced settings. Let me search the forums :)
[09:56] <przemo_one> hi
[09:56] <Diverdude> RobLikesBrunch, that is really odd....why would they want to make the dictionary worse in a upgrade
[09:57] <przemo_one> so what's the problem people?
[09:57] <RobLikesBrunch> Diverdude: They may have implemented some other method for adding dictionaries...but even in the documentation they show an advanced button.
[09:57] <pdg1> przemo_one, my CD drive just decided to stop working
[09:57] <Diverdude> RobLikesBrunch, very strange indeed
[09:57] <pdg1> :P
[09:57] <przemo_one> that should do
[09:58] <przemo_one> pdg1 happens
[09:58] <pdg1> but i had a spare... and that one's not even working
[09:58] <RobLikesBrunch> Diverdude: And the console commands don't work for it either anymore?
[09:58] <RobLikesBrunch> Diverdude: This is very odd.
[09:58] <pdg1> so I'm SURE it's a setting I've got mussed up... but I can't figure out what i mussed up
[09:59] <Diverdude> RobLikesBrunch, did somebody mess it up i wonder
[09:59] <przemo_one> pdg1 what ware you doing?
[10:00] <andreo> after a week of not using my notebook it shows 'grub error:unknown file system'
[10:00] <shuaib> Trying to change wlan0's mode to anything (ad-hoc, monitor) and it says device or resource busy, any idea please?
[10:00] <RobLikesBrunch> Diverdude: Perhaps post on the forums about it--maybe they know more.
[10:01] <pdg1> przemo_one, trying to install a new sata HDD i got. all the google searches i've done on it seem to suggest that it has to do with adding new hardware and it trying to find an HDD to boot from
[10:01] <przemo_one> shuaib ifconfig wlan0 down
[10:01] <RobLikesBrunch> Diverdude: Be sure to specify it as "gnome-dictionary". There's another dictionary called "stardict" but it seems very cluttered and inferior to me.
[10:01] <Diverdude> RobLikesBrunch, but there must be a solution
[10:01] <RobLikesBrunch> Diverdude: Let me see if there's a newer version.
[10:02] <przemo_one> pdg1 but your CDROM is not working right?
[10:02] <pdg1> przemo_one, i've removed the new hardware and there' still no HDD on there... and keeps giving me the same thing.
[10:02] <Copter> Hi, should I be avoiding using directories with spaces in linux?
[10:02] <rww> Copter: nope. They're sometimes inconvenient because you have to "quote them" or escape\ them on the command line, but other than that it's fine.
[10:02] <pdg1> przemo_one, CDROM will open close, but comp wont boot from it and the ubuntu ive got on there don't see it either
[10:02] <przemo_one> pdg1 so can you boot to your ubuntu??
[10:02] <coldfire> hi i have installed kubuntu-destop on ubuntu gnome 9.10 then i removed the kubuntu desktop but all the applications and system tools still there how do remove them all ? thx
[10:03] <ardchoille> Copter: no, you can quote them or escape them if needed: "/path/file with space"  or  /path/file\ with\ spaces
[10:03] <pdg1> boots to HDD no problem
[10:03] <rww> !puregnome | coldfire
[10:03] <Copter> ardchoille: thanks
[10:03] <przemo_one> pdg1 give me a moment to think
[10:03] <ardchoille> yw
[10:03] <pdg1> przemo_one, boots to HDD no problem
[10:03] <coldfire> ok rww thanks
[10:03] <przemo_one> pdg1 please post /etc/fstab
[10:04] <andreo> i have grub loading problem 'error: unknown file system'. How to solve it?
[10:04] <pdg1> The bios has an "optimal settings" option, I'm thinking i should try that aswell
[10:04] <przemo_one> not here :)
[10:04] <przemo_one> pdg1 do not mess with bios!
[10:06] <przemo_one> pdg1 please run cdrecord scanbus or cdrdao scanbus (in terminal as root)
[10:08] <pdg1> przemo_one, aiight...
[10:08] <RobLikesBrunch> Diverdude: It seems it's a known bug: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=374268
[10:09] <przemo_one> pdg1 output should show your drive
[10:09] <RobLikesBrunch> Diverdude: Oh wait, that's dated 2006. Nevermind that.
[10:09] <pdg1> otherwise?
[10:09] <TET> hello group
[10:09] <przemo_one> hello to YOU
[10:10] <przemo_one> pdg1 it must. if not drive is not connected properly
[10:10] <TET> i want to talk to a ubuntu distri dude
[10:10] <przemo_one> pdg1 tose commands it might be -scanbus or --scanbus
[10:11] <TET> is someone here, who cares für the update packages
[10:11] <przemo_one> pdg1 cdrdao might not be present. cdrecord must be
[10:11] <pdg1> przemo_one, and it has to be root... not a su command?
[10:11] <TET> iam a java developer and i want to upgrade/update it AUTOMATICLY not f.u.c.k.n with installscripts
[10:12] <przemo_one> pdg1 su or sudo do just fine :)
[10:12] <lynxsys> Hey all
[10:12] <TET> on the update server .... update u15 is the case, the latest official version is u18
[10:12] <muhammad_> hi all,
[10:12] <TET> is that a kindergarden here ?
[10:13] <przemo_one> hi
[10:13] <pdg1> przemo_one, FANTASTIC! it found the cd drive with cdrecord scanbus
[10:13] <TET> wtf
[10:13] <hspaans> TET: show some respect
[10:13] <przemo_one> pdg1 so it's connected properly
[10:13] <rww> ubottu: language | TET
[10:13] <lynxsys> can anyone help with this warning: xsession: xrdb command not found; X resources not found
[10:13] <TET> it shows me how ur acting with other work
[10:14] <muhammad_> how do i clean the boot menu in ubuntu 9.10?, there is a long list of kernel options after numerous updates, I am using grub2
[10:14] <TET> i give my respect, coz i use ubuntu
[10:14] <przemo_one> pdg1 i bet it's the new one
[10:14] <pdg1> przemo_one, so what am i looking for specifically with this
[10:14] <BlouBlou> muhammad_: go to synaptic and remove old kernels manually
[10:14] <przemo_one> pdg1 could you give me those numrers like 0,1,0 or something
[10:14] <TET> my language is german, so i watched for that already :p
[10:14] <pdg1> przemo_one, i'll try to pastebin.ca it
[10:15] <rww> TET: There's a German-language channel at #ubuntu-de if you'd prefer to use that?
[10:15] <przemo_one> pdg1 please paste also content of /etc/fstab. you can access it by using gedit /etc/fstab
[10:15] <TET> 1. i want to upgrade jdk under ubuntu 9.10, unlikely the actual update is not includet there (i mail them seperately)
[10:15] <TET> 2. i downloaded the .bin installer here and run it on my computer
[10:15] <TET> 3. i can not find any hint or manual on this site, that shows me - how to do that.
[10:15] <TET> 4. under windooze, the installer works well, i switched to debian/ubuntu to develop in here and its not working!
[10:15] <TET> 5. do your homework - i want it "out-of-the-box" and not fucking with installscripts
[10:15] <FloodBot3> TET: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:16] <Xepera> RIGHT RIGHT
[10:16] <pdg1> http://pastebin.ca/1754527
[10:16] <TET> http://pastebin.ca/1754529
[10:16] <przemo_one> TET I'm not previledged user but you shouldwatch your lenguage.
[10:17] <muhammad_> BlouBlou: I also want to  make changes to list Entries, for example changes the old long entries to "Ubuntu Karmic" only , any idea how to do this?
[10:17] <TET> thx emo
[10:17] <TET> iam very close to explode and acting like hulk
[10:17] <llutz> !attitude > TET
[10:17] <ardchoille> przemo_one: you're just as privileged as the rest of us here
[10:18] <BlouBlou> muhammad_: As I said, removing kernels by synaptic only will remove current os' kernels
[10:18] <przemo_one> pdg1 now that fstab lepase :)
[10:18] <llutz> ardchoille: but unfortunately not kick-privileged
[10:18] <RobLikesBrunch> Diverdude: I posted on the forums for you: ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1383346
[10:18] <ardchoille> llutz: true
[10:18] <hspaans> TET: their was some help coming, but you act like a child so good luck
[10:18] <TET> several upgrades to the kernel has be done and other updates to the rest of ubuntu ... but java is not included in that progress
[10:18] <pdg1> przemo_one, http://pastebin.ca/1754531
[10:18] <chipgeri> grub not detecting windows..how do i fix it? i have 2 hard disks and both ubuntu and windows are in different harddisks
[10:19] <TET> and i WILL NOT act like a script-kiddy to get that running
[10:19] <triplexxx> TET: what is your point exactly .... linux is used to be for individual needs not one set platform so were are you going with this????
[10:19] <TET> did i make myself clear in here
[10:19] <TET> chipgery look out for the [x] bootflag
[10:20] <TET> chipgeri look out for the [x] bootflag
[10:20] <TET> i didnt find a feedback mail address on the project page, so i went here
[10:20] <chipgeri>  TET:where will it be?
[10:20] <TET> and the once i see is, that i should be more friendly ?
[10:21] <triplexxx> TET: not sure what your point is in updates there just like add-ons for iphones and firefox!!!!!
[10:21] <TET> chipgeri, under windows "control panel / harddisc manager"
[10:21] <TET> i want java 1.6.0_u18 AND NOT a year old _u15
[10:21] <lynxsys> can anyone i help with this warning: xsession: xrdb command not found; X resources not found when I startx
[10:22] <rww> TET: Ubuntu doesn't generally update packages to new major versions for stability reasons.
[10:22] <TET> rww sun patched the upgrade BECAUSE of security reason, so dont take that as reason
[10:22] <chipgeri>  TET: im not able to boot to windows because grub is not detecting xp
[10:22] <rww> TET: I don't know if that's what's going on here, since I don't understand Java's versioning system, but it's one possibility.
[10:22] <przemo_one> pdg1 this line with /dev/scd0 . please replace it with /dev/cdrom
[10:22] <przemo_one> pdg1 leave the rest of the line as is.
[10:22] <TET> chipgeri .. use a bootable disc or usb
[10:23] <hspaans> TET: security stuff is being backported
[10:23] <TET> iam not firm enough under lunix to fuqq with the scripts
[10:23] <TET> same point why iam here
[10:23] <TET> IAM NOT A SCRIPTKIDDY damn
[10:23] <bazhang> !enter | TET
[10:23] <ardchoille> !ops | TET needs a hint about language (others have already warned him)
[10:23] <bazhang> TET, please lose the caps
[10:23] <pdg1> przemo_one, should that allow me to boot from CD?
[10:23] <TET> none of u knows how to build software and u want to tell me, i should watch my language
[10:24] <xukun> is it wise to install the nvidia 195 drivers already?
[10:24] <przemo_one> TET Linux comes as it is. If you don't like it and if your'e not polite you don't have to use it or expect any help.
[10:24] <bazhang> TET, remain civil or you will removed
[10:24] <przemo_one> pdg1 i thought that te problem is that system is not mounting discs :)
[10:24] <TET> my language is JAVA ur retard dudes
[10:25] <ardchoille> Thank  you bazhang
[10:25] <hspaans> for the record it was make-jpkg / java-package to create your own Java-DEBs
[10:25] <pdg1> przemo_one, yeah, or booting from them
[10:26] <triplexxx> TET: watch what you say I know programming language what is your point???? on updates if you don't like the update go to an older version of ubuntu or whatever linux distro you have
[10:26] <Copter> I have an application that creates a dir under C:\Users\My_User . Anyone can suggest where would it create it under linux? I Searched my user home and its not there
[10:26] <przemo_one> pdg1 this should make sytem to read disk after you insert. to boot, now that's bios function.
[10:26] <rww> Copter: are you using WINE?
[10:26] <lynxsys> will apt-get update update my system software?
[10:26] <Copter> rww: vmware
[10:26] <pdg1> przemo_one, yeah, I don't know what happened to the BIOS from when i simply added new hardware
[10:26] <rww> lynxsys: to get updates for the current version of Ubuntu, you'd do sudo apt-get update, then sudo apt-get upgrade.
[10:26] <MorphyNOR> Copter: /home/youruser/
[10:27] <lynxsys> thanks
[10:27] <MorphyNOR> Copter: or, /usr/here somwhere
[10:27] <rww> Copter: ah, no idea then. Not familiar with vmware.
[10:27] <Copter> ok thx
[10:27] <MorphyNOR> Copter: what sort of files?
[10:27] <Copter> ahy nm
[10:27] <MorphyNOR> or rather, which program?
[10:27] <Copter> im an idiot
[10:27] <Copter> its hidden
[10:27] <Copter> used ctrl+h and it worked
[10:27] <MorphyNOR> ah :)
[10:27] <FloodBot3> Copter: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:27] <MorphyNOR> . ;)
[10:27] <przemo_one> Copter it might make dirrectory c:UsersMy USer or something the best is to use find ~ | grep My_User or instead of ~ use /
[10:28] <Diverdude> RobLikesBrunch, hey, i like your posting. thx
[10:28] <przemo_one> pdg1 so it was bootng from cd, but now it does not?
[10:28] <Diverdude> RobLikesBrunch, ill follow it
[10:28] <Diverdude> RobLikesBrunch, no replies yet though :(
[10:28] <pdg1> przemo_one, correcto
[10:29] <t1n0m3n> what is the correct way to make changes to grub2 on karmic?
[10:29] <RobLikesBrunch> Diverdude: It's a very specific issue, and I'm unsure if it actually has a solution...so it will be slow.
[10:29] <uniq_user> look in /etc/default/grub and /etc/grub/
[10:29] <Andy14> Heya
[10:29] <jo_> hey
[10:30] <ardchoille> !grub2 | t1n0m3n
[10:30] <ardchoille> t1n0m3n: Good tutorial there
[10:30] <przemo_one> pdg1 when you boot press escape or f10 or something that will bring boot menu. you can change boot settings permanently as well there must be boot device priority or something like that. this is not ubuntu/linux  related question :)
[10:30] <jo_> Anyone here know about getting Perfect World International to work with Ubuntu 9.10
[10:30] <Diverdude> RobLikesBrunch, i was hoping for that not to happen
[10:30] <Andy14> tried wine and installed directx?
[10:30] <jo_> Ye it worked the other day
[10:31] <jo_> and now it won't work
[10:31] <Andy14> What've you done? :0
[10:31] <triplexxx> t1n0m3n: there is no correct way to edit grub just need to access the file with root privileges in either a graphics mode or gedit mode
[10:31] <jo_> I dunno, I did nothing!!
[10:31] <uniq_user> I think he meant where are the correct files to edit
[10:31] <ardchoille> triple_xxx: grub2 is much different
[10:31] <pdg1> przemo_one, okay... any idea where i might find some help with AMI BIOS?
[10:31] <Andy14> if you didn't do anything, nothing would have changed
[10:32] <MorphyNOR> jo_: We're not going to punish you if you did :P
[10:32] <jo_> Ok but I don't know what I did, if I did anything :p
[10:32] <triplexxx> jo_: use playonlinux go to www.playonlinux.com works great
[10:32] <Andy14> What's the problem anyway?
[10:32] <Diverdude> RobLikesBrunch,  are you a scholar?
[10:33] <lynxsys> can anyone help with this warning: xsession: xrdb command not found; X resources not found when I startx from console?
[10:33] <Andy14> well
[10:34] <Andy14> you got something deleted I guess
[10:34] <sabgenton> update-rc.d foo remove
[10:34] <sabgenton> will this also remove /etc/init.d/foo
[10:34] <sabgenton> ?
[10:34] <przemo_one> pdg1 ami bios just google man or girl f2 should be for entering setup. f10 for boot menu. if it's not generic might be different. try f8 and escape.
[10:34] <pdg1> przemo_one, I suppose i could prolly google that
[10:34] <jo_> ok I'll try playonlinux and be back if i'm stuck, thanks all xx
[10:34] <pdg1> przemo_one, yeah, sorry :P
[10:34] <pdg1> lol
[10:35] <pdg1> wel it says DEL to enter setup... so i'm there
[10:35] <przemo_one> pdg1 not a problem try those ffffsssss :)
[10:36] <przemo_one> pdg1 f2 then might be the answer
[10:36] <pdg1> przemo_one, hooo boy... these settings look spooky
[10:36] <przemo_one> pdg1 it should also in manual of your mother board if you have desktop system.
[10:37] <przemo_one> pdgi do not mess with them
[10:37] <pdg1> ha... like i have a manual
[10:38] <autostart> .
[10:38] <t1n0m3n> I am getting this error "grub-probe: error: no mapping exists for `isw_dfgiefhhie_SpeedVolume1'"
[10:39] <Daugha|n> That just sounds kinky...
[10:39] <t1n0m3n> It is a SW raid in the bios
[10:40] <t1n0m3n> I am guessing os-prober won't work correctly with a SW raid
[10:40] <malik__> hi, my synaptec pkg mngr stopped responding, i force killed the process, now  i cant start it. what do i do now?
[10:40] <Threetimes> Hi, Unison loses the connection when connecting to an ssh server.
[10:41] <kinja-sheep> !aptfix | malik__
[10:41] <pdg1> przemo_one, i think I'll have to mess with them, this is for sure a BIOS issue. I'll try the good ol', change-it-and-change-it-back style of troubleshooting
[10:42] <triplexxx> malik__: use apt-get its faster and watch youtube videos on linux software... use ubuntu forums and do searches for software.... unless u like that packmanger
[10:42] <triplexxx> ????
[10:42] <jackhorner> im trying to install ubuntu on a usb stick from a vmware vm image, ive tried to dd the whole disk on the stick, grub starts, it sees the partition, it seems to load the kernel but then when i ask grub to boot it hungs there... any clue??
[10:42] <rww> triplexxx: apt-get isn't significantly faster than Synaptic.
[10:43] <iceroot> rww: of course it is, because apt dont have to load a gui at startup
[10:43] <noladesi> yo
[10:43] <noladesi> hey how do i register a name
[10:43] <kinja-sheep> It is not faster. Just easier.
[10:43] <rww> ubottu: register | noladesi
[10:44] <malik__> kinja-sheep, ubottu: Thanks its fixed.
[10:44] <noladesi> i can type that right in here.
[10:44] <triplexxx> rww ouch
[10:45] <noladesi> yo
[10:45] <xukun> how can I upgrade to the stable nvidia 190.53 drivers?
[10:46] <noladesi> h
[10:46] <triplexxx> noladesi: got to this link you may have to watch this video 2 or 3 times ,but he explains it well
[10:46] <Threetimes> Hi, Unison loses the connection when connecting to an ssh server.
[10:47] <kinja-sheep> xukun: Your choices -- Obtain the package from the website. Compile/run it. or PPA. Maybe envy can do it too.
[10:47] <triplexxx> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x2hmO42s-tc&feature=related
[10:47] <kinja-sheep> Threetimes: Are you using Unison to sync with Windows?
[10:47] <Threetimes> Nope, ubuntu desktop and ubuntu server
[10:48] <ardchoille> !ot | triplexxx
[10:48] <noladesi> I dont want my own chatroom
[10:48] <thedonut> hi, i just  installed ubuntu 9.10 for the 3rd time now, and its not properly booting ... would somebody like to help me?
[10:48] <t1n0m3n> !grub2
[10:48] <kinja-sheep> Threetimes: Use rsync or if you need GUI, use grsync or gtkrsync. I used Unison few times long time and I recall it disconnecting occasionally.
[10:49] <Threetimes> thanks! I'll look into g(tk)rsync
[10:51] <Quadrescence> Hello. I've been trying to install a fake/"meta" package to make apt think it has texlive installed because I installed my own version, but it seems to think it
[10:51] <Quadrescence> is still not installed.
[10:52] <webdawg> ?
[10:53] <Quadrescence> I installed TeXLive from outside sources. Therefore, I want Ubuntu to think I installed from the repository.
[10:53] <webdawg> Why?
[10:53] <webdawg> ohhh
[10:53] <webdawg> wait
[10:53] <webdawg> I dont know how to do that but I see why.
[10:53] <kinja-sheep> Quadrescence: Use checkinstall when you compile.
[10:54] <kinja-sheep> Quadrescence: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CheckInstall
[10:54] <Quadrescence> kinja-sheep: It's a little more complicated than that.
[10:54] <Quadrescence> It doesn't use "make install".
[10:54] <kinja-sheep> Quadrescence: How do you install it?
[10:56] <triplexxx> Quadrescence: was this made in some programming class like c or c++ needing library dependiencies ...????
[10:56] <Quadrescence> kinja-sheep: First you download a script or whatever called TeXLive installer, and this installed a program called 'tlmgr', and in tlmgr, you install latex and all of the packages. It's sort of a repository of its own, which is why I presume Ubuntu hasn't upgraded from TeXLive 2007 to 2009
[10:56] <Quadrescence> The entire install is around 2GB of LaTeX packages + the base LaTeX install.
[10:57] <triplexxx> Quadrescence: you want a blacklisted program to run????
[10:58] <Quadrescence> triplexxx: ...blacklisted?
[10:58] <Quadrescence> triplexxx: It's not blacklisted. It's just a difficult thing to "officially" integrate into the Ubuntu repos. Fedora has the same problem.
[10:58] <kinja-sheep> Quadrescence: I'm thinking you want to find latex channel where they have more experiences with latex-related and OS.
[10:59] <kinja-sheep> Quadrescence: And you're already there. Hmm,.
[10:59] <Diverdude> When in nautilus, what is the shortcut to focus on the address bar? The one that corresponds to ALT+D in windows?
[10:59] <kinja-sheep> Diverdude: CTRL + L
[10:59] <Quadrescence> kinja-sheep: This isn't a LaTeX problem, this is a repository problem.
[10:59] <kinja-sheep> Diverdude: / (too)
[11:00] <skx> I have a problem with network-manager, it doesn't connect to openvpn servers: Jan 17 11:53:00 stranger NetworkManager: <WARN>  nm_vpn_connection_connect_cb(): VPN connection 'innocence-len' failed to connect: 'No VPN secrets!'. connecting from command line ($ sudo openvpn VPN.conf) works just fine
[11:00] <skx> anybody?
[11:00] <Quadrescence> kinja-sheep: All I want to do is make Ubuntu think it has the LaTeX packages installed, so I can install other applications that depend on LaTeX without having to install 2007
[11:01] <rww> Quadrescence: You could use `equivs' to make a fake package, perhaps.
[11:01] <kinja-sheep> Quadrescence: I get it but I don't know the answer to that.
[11:01] <rww> Quadrescence: I'm not sure on the details, though.
[11:02] <Quadrescence> rww: Yes, that seemed like the best solution. And I was either doing it wrong (likely), or it didn't work. :<
[11:02] <triplexxx> Quadrescence: well I found your solution
[11:02] <triplexxx> be right back
[11:04] <triplexxx>  TeX4ht can handle the features of TeX-based systems
[11:04] <triplexxx> in general, and of LaTeX in particular.
[11:04] <triplexxx> TeX4ht can be used both for authoring HTML using TeX/LaTeX input files, or
[11:04] <triplexxx> for converting existing TeX input files (in any format) into HTML, with
[11:04] <triplexxx> (usually) only minor modifications.  Other varieties of hypertext can also be
[11:04] <triplexxx> produced, including XML, XHTML, MathML and the Openoffice.org format of XML.
[11:04] <FloodBot3> triplexxx: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:04] <afshin> i wany=t install a program in kubuntu 9.10 64bit but want two program php-pcntl and php-gtk-pcntl i cant find them
[11:04] <triplexxx> tex4ht plugin version 2009
[11:04] <Gary> it might be an idea to use a pastebin triplexxx - http://www.pastebin.ca
[11:05] <triplexxx> Gary: oopppsss sorrrryyyyy
[11:06] <|ns|nR8> afshin, have you got restricted uncommented in sources.list ?
[11:06] <triplexxx> Quadrescence: this package says its supports the latest latex in texlive with a 2009 version...??? is this what your looking for???
[11:07] <Quadrescence> triplexxx: No.
[11:07] <afshin> yes
[11:08] <afshin> i added in source list but i get a error massage
[11:09] <|ns|nR8> what is the error
[11:09] <kinja-sheep> afshin: Are you doing this for VPN? http://tinyurl.com/yjvynle
[11:10] <afshin> yes kinja-sheep
[11:10] <paolopao> Hi. since some days I hear the volume of youtube videos at a very low level. If I play an audio file, the volume is ok. I already checked the volumes with alsamixer. what should I do?
[11:10] <kinja-sheep> afshin: Did you add the new line in the sources.list? http://quozl.us.netrek.org/pptp/pptpconfig/
[11:10] <afshin> yes
[11:10] <|ns|nR8> i can see the x86 version there, not 64
[11:10] <kinja-sheep> afshin: Pastebin the error you receive.
[11:12] <triplexxx> Quadrescence: what a minute went to website they got a tar.gz and a build from source what is the problem...?????
[11:12] <afshin> want two progtam  :  The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[11:12] <afshin>   pptpconfig: Depends: php-pcntl (>= 4.3.7) but it is not installable
[11:12] <afshin>               Depends: php-gtk-pcntl (>= 1.0.0) but it is not installable
[11:12] <afshin> E: Broken packages
[11:12] <FloodBot3> afshin: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:12] <afshin> ok sorry
[11:13] <ardchoille> Are there any video rippers in the Karmic repos capable of outputting DivX files?
[11:13] <kinja-sheep> afshin: You can obtain the deb manually and install it.
[11:13] <kinja-sheep> afshin: It is in the link above. Look for files ending with .deb
[11:14] <afshin> i donload that but have same error
[11:14] <ajhavery> hello
[11:14] <triplexxx> Quadrescence: I dont believe this is going to work much faster with compression ratio's below bzip2 they should have posted results from this compression if it is faster
[11:14] <Like> hi the channel for testin in Lucid ?
[11:14] <kinja-sheep> Like: #ubuntu+1
[11:14] <ajhavery> which is best chat client for linux?
[11:14] <kinja-sheep> !best | ajhavery
[11:15] <kinja-sheep> ajhavery: XChat, irssi, weechat, gnome-chat, chatzilla, pidgin.
[11:15] <ajhavery> which one do u prefer?
[11:15] <kinja-sheep> ajhavery: If you're new to IRC, use xchat. It have GUI which makes things easy when it comes down to configuration.
[11:16] <triplexxx> ajhavery: I use irssi takes a bit of know how with the terminal but works like a champ... there all much similar don't like white back ground or black background
[11:17] <Like> wb!!!
[11:18] <ajhavery> thanx
[11:18] <ksbalaji> I have downloaded new firefox-3.5.7.tar.bz2 but do not know how to install it. what installer to use please? I tried Adept,Gnome appinstaller and synaptic without success...
[11:20] <jophish> I have noticed that in default settings, for example apt and grub. The filenames start with a number, like 05debiantheme, or 01proxy. Why is this?
[11:21] <kinja-sheep> ksbalaji: Use mozilla-daily-ppa
[11:22] <kinja-sheep> ksbalaji: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-mozilla-daily/
[11:22] <aluno> carlos
[11:22] <ksbalaji> kinja-sheep, thanks. Is it an application installer? I have ff 3.0.7 something installed now.
[11:23] <Threetimes> kinja-sheep: can rsync only sync in one direction?
[11:23] <kinja-sheep> ksbalaji: It works by adding ubuntu-mozilla-daily server to your array of repository servers. It'll show up in the database when you use apt-get, aptitude, or sypaetic(sp). Find firefox-3.7 and install it.
[11:23] <afshin> kinja-sheep i have a same error when i use deb pacage
[11:24] <Guest79684> quit
[11:25] <zoddan> i did something wrong with my ubuntu installation :P
[11:25] <Guest79684> disconnect
[11:25] <whiter> when i connect to a wireless network it gives me a notification about having a .local domain, how can i fix that?
[11:25] <kinja-sheep> Threetimes: One location to another. There are many parameters you can use.
[11:25] <zoddan> running on a laptop with nvidia gfx and i activated the nvidia driver
[11:25] <zoddan> and now the GUI wont start
[11:25] <zoddan> how can i rollback to the other driver?
[11:25] <raven> what is the solution to synchronize a whole home-folder on two pcs - unison takes houres.....
[11:26] <Threetimes> kinja-sheep: what do I use to sync new files from both locations? What happens if a file is changed on both locations?
[11:27] <zoddan> anyone know how i can do that?
[11:27] <kinja-sheep> Threetimes: If you need to sync small things, you can use DropBox or Ubuntu-One (both ups to 2GB). I'll try and find the best way to sync both folders, but usually I know you do this by pointing to folders.
[11:28] <kinja-sheep> !rsync | Threetimes
[11:28] <paolopao> how can I configure the volume for a specific application? (i.e: firefox)
[11:28] <zoddan> seems that ppl dont see what i type :P
[11:28] <Like> any one have an idea with x-fi work in lucid alpha 2 xtreme audio pci-e WITH ALSA :)
[11:28] <whiter> ah, i get the error "Your current network has a .local domain, which is not recommended and incompatible with the Avahi Network service discovery."
[11:29] <Threetimes> I don't want anything web-based. It's cool and fun, but not what i'm looking for...
[11:32] <triplexxx> Quadrescence: what were you using latex for trig, calculus math equations????
[11:32] <Quadrescence> I use latex for lots of things.
[11:33] <Quadrescence> Books and papers I'm writing.
[11:34] <triplexxx> Quadrescence: not your every day run of the mill program...  goodluck I can see why it might be hard to install.... ;)
[11:34] <Quadrescence> Haha.
[11:35] <brainbox> hey... i need help with getting broadcom network extreme working with ubuntu server
[11:35] <RS-232> I am trying to copy a directory into another one doing: mv dir1/ dir2/  , dir1 is not empty, but I want to copy it entiriely into dir2, ... I only get this error message:mv: cannot move `cacheexclude' to `3rd party/cacheexclude': Directory not empty
[11:35] <RS-232> ... any help?
[11:35] <brainbox> compiled a new kernel
[11:35] <brainbox> <IP_ADDRESS>-custom #1 SMP Sun Jan 17 05:31:32 EST 2010 x86_64 GNU/Linu
[11:35] <brainbox> what options do i need to have checked
[11:36] <frou3> A question about disk drives. Is it wise to clone an Ubuntu install from a normal hard drive on to an SSD then use the SSD? Or is there some SSD-specific setup performed when you do a clean install on to a SSD?
[11:36] <kinja-sheep> Threetimes: I think it is good idea if you use rsync and add it to cron (so it run every ____) and add parameters to perform the way you want it to. I don't know why you should open both and edit both at once.
[11:37] <RS-232> ... any help?
[11:37] <RS-232> I am trying to copy a directory into another one doing: mv dir1/ dir2/  , dir1 is not empty, but I want to copy it entiriely into dir2, ... I only get this error message:mv: cannot move `cacheexclude' to `3rd party/cacheexclude': Directory not empty
[11:38] <Quadrescence> RS-232: mv -R will MOVE the directory
[11:38] <brainbox> u need recursive flag
[11:38] <Quadrescence> use cp -R to COPY it
[11:38] <RS-232> Quadrescence: -R does not work for MV command
[11:38] <Quadrescence> RS-232: Yes it does
[11:38] <brainbox> it does...
[11:39] <brainbox> o_O
[11:39] <RS-232> WebTool:/var/www/sites/all/modules# mv -R cacheexclude 3rd\ party/
[11:39]  * brainbox blinks
[11:39] <RS-232> mv: invalid option -- R
[11:39] <RS-232> Try `mv --help' for more information.
[11:39] <RS-232> ?
[11:39] <FloodBot3> RS-232: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:39] <brainbox> should be -r
[11:39] <RS-232> mv: invalid option -- r
[11:39] <RS-232> -r does not work either
[11:39] <kinja-sheep> RS-232: If you don't want to lose the files, use cp instead of mv
[11:40] <RS-232> I can copy them, but I want to know how to move them (erasing the origin)
[11:40] <brainbox> ill try it in ubuntu...
[11:40] <brainbox> see if it works one sec
[11:40] <Quadrescence> RS-232: I was wrong, -R isn't an option. You probably want cp though, or mv -f
[11:40] <brainbox> it doest
[11:40] <brainbox> works in bsd though haha
[11:40] <RS-232> Quadrescence: so for directories only CP works? no MV?
[11:41] <Quadrescence> RS-232: Try mv -f
[11:41] <RS-232> mv: cannot move `cacheexclude' to `3rd party/cacheexclude': Directory not empty
[11:41] <RS-232> BTW this is Debian, ...but I think POSIX should be the same, right?
[11:42] <rww> RS-232: There's a Debian channel at #debian. You really should be using it instead.
[11:43] <jiohdi> RS-232: why can't you use something like Thunar to move it?
[11:43] <infidel> anyone here have ddo running on wine? i have it working fine but the game screen is inverted
[11:43] <RS-232> I entered here because I am in an UBuntu machine doing an SSH to a Debian one (the one where I am truying to MV the diurectory)
[11:44] <Ateu> hello
[11:44] <MorphyNOR> !hello | Ateu
[11:45] <brainbox> i have Broadcom NetXtremeII support  compiled in my kernel .... yet its not working
[11:45] <brainbox> 04:00.0 Ethernet controller: Broadcom Corporation NetXtreme II BCM5708 Gigabit Ethernet (rev 12)
[11:45] <SmileDay> [Q] What do I do install when no makefile?
[11:45] <brainbox> try ./config
[11:45] <brainbox> or ./configure
[11:46] <brainbox> anyone have experience with that ethernet device?
[11:46] <brainbox> 04:00.0 Ethernet controller: Broadcom Corporation NetXtreme II BCM5708 Gigabit Ethernet (rev 12)
[11:46] <brainbox> its compiled in my kernel...
[11:46] <brainbox> doesnt wana work though
[11:47] <hipitihop> I have a laptop which takes ages to boot to login screen and then ages once user id is picked and the password box appears.. this occurs since it has been upgraded from jaunt to karmic, how do I debug this ?
[11:47] <SmileDay> brainbox, Has already.
[11:48] <berserk_ren> mhm... hipitihop maybe it's happening because of videocard? with radeons  it's happens sometimes
[11:48] <Daugha|n> hipitihop: Backup and clean install?
[11:48] <SmileDay> [Q] What do I do install when no makefile?
[11:48] <hipitihop> Daugha|n, seems drastic and non linux way
[11:48] <justin_> hi, How to add GL support, install mesa or something?
[11:49] <soreau> SmileDay: If you ran ./configure or ./autogen.sh and it doesnt generate a makefile, it likely failed in some way. Look at the configure output
[11:49] <Daugha|n> hipitihop: It was how I solved my issues from upgrading. Seems the karmuic upgrade package has a bunch of bugs.
[11:49] <soreau> justin_: Which card model?
[11:49] <x[x]> hey i did i apt-get distro upgrade thing in terminal .. it does it all ..it asks to reboot now as far as i can tell grub is missing it goes directly to memtest .. ( im running ubuntu karmic ) do i need the ubuntu cd and try fix it from there?
[11:49] <justin_> soreau: using ATI
[11:49] <soreau> justin_: Which model though?
[11:49] <justin_> soreau: FirePro V 3750
[11:50] <soreau> justin_: Is that what lspci|grep VGA says?
[11:50] <jiohdi> x[x]: if ou updated to karmic it uses grub2
[11:50] <hipitihop> berserk_ren, it has nvidia and curretnyl using the 185.18.36 driver
[11:50] <soreau> jiohdi: You mean grub1
[11:50] <berserk_ren> it's sad that compiz is not working on radeon 9200 SE in ubuntu 9.10 T_T black desktop and no good drivers :(
[11:50] <x[x]> yeah
[11:50] <jiohdi> soreau, not on karmic, its grub2
[11:50] <brainbox> module is there for my card
[11:50] <x[x]> so ..
[11:50] <brainbox> bnx2                   65982  0
[11:50] <x[x]> do i boot off the linux Live cd?
[11:50] <claudio_> hi
[11:50] <brainbox> how do i tell if the firmware is loaded?
[11:51] <justin_> soreau: 02:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc RV730 [FirePro V5700]
[11:51] <soreau> jiohdi: If you upgrade from 9.04, it does not install grub2
[11:51] <justin_> soreau: but i think the driver now is ok
[11:51] <hipitihop> Daugha|n, when you say backup, I assume home directory but whatabout all installed apps etc
[11:51] <jiohdi> soreau, I remember seeing the option for it
[11:51] <soreau> justin_: Ok check sys>admin>hardware drivers
[11:51] <x[x]> soreau i didnt upgrade.. i downloaded karmic and installed it on a new partition
[11:51] <Daugha|n> hipitihop: Yup. and any conf files ya wanna keep....All dat.
[11:51] <Aled> Guys you know on the ubuntu cd yo
[11:52] <Aled> u can install ubuntu from inside windows?
[11:52] <soreau> berserk_ren: compiz does work with 9200 but that black background issue is a mesa bug
[11:52] <justin_> soreau: Well, I'm not using ubuntu actually
[11:52] <brainbox> Jan 17 06:27:46 osirus kernel: [    5.813146] bnx2 0000:08:00.0: firmware: requesting bnx2/bnx2-mips-06-5.0.0.j3.fw
[11:52] <brainbox> Jan 17 06:27:46 osirus kernel: [    5.814328] bnx2 0000:08:00.0: PCI INT A disabled
[11:52] <brainbox> Jan 17 06:27:46 osirus kernel: [    5.814337] bnx2: probe of 0000:08:00.0 failed with error -2
[11:52] <brainbox> wtf does that mean
[11:52] <BlouBlou> !paste | brainbox
[11:52] <soreau> x[x]: Then you have grub2
[11:52] <justin_> soreau: I cann't find OpenGL information in the info. center
[11:52] <x[x]> ok when i said grub was missing i didnt know grub2 was the latest
[11:52] <x[x]> sorry for the mistake
[11:52] <hipitihop> Daugha|n, but that means you gotta know what to look for... getting a system back to the way it was before can be a lot of work
[11:53] <brainbox>  bnx2: probe of 0000:08:00.0 failed with error -2 anyone know what this is caused by ?
[11:53] <soreau> justin_: Then why are you here? You should ask in your distros support channel
[11:53] <jiohdi> x[x]: grub2 does not say anything like grub one, just goes straight to open
[11:53] <Daugha|n> hipitihop: I'm well aware of that. DIdnt say twas easy, I offered it as an option.
[11:53] <justin_> soreau: there's no one in debian channel
[11:53] <x[x]> ok
[11:53] <x[x]> now im confused jibel
[11:53] <x[x]> err
[11:53] <x[x]> jiohdi
[11:53] <FloodBot3> x[x]: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:54] <justin_> and I think the answer to ubuntu can be applied to debian at all
[11:54] <soreau> justin_: Well with that card you will either need to install fglrx or upgrade your kernel to at least 2.6.32 and use the open radeon driver
[11:54] <justin_> soreau: What do I need for openGL, mesa or something ?
[11:54] <jiohdi> x[x]: I wanted to dual boot by placing an entry into menu.lst, found that no such file exists in grub2, its all different
[11:54] <hipitihop> Daugha|n, understand, and your option is appreciated :-) I was just hoping there may be something to reconfigure which might be less work :-)
[11:54] <x[x]> jiohdi thats not my error though
[11:54] <justin_> soreau:  I have already make through the driver
[11:55] <x[x]> my error is when i did distro upgrade in terminal and rebooted ... the grubloader when missing .. it just boots straight into memtest
[11:55] <Daugha|n> hipitihop: I coudnt tell you. It seems everyone who uses the upgrade option runs into a different problem.
[11:55] <x[x]> im wondering should i just boot off the LIVE CD and see what happens from there
[11:55] <jiohdi> x[x]: from memtest, where can you go?
[11:55] <justin_> soreau: And I have ever set it up using official dirver give by amd
[11:55] <justin_> given
[11:55] <x[x]> from memtest it does a memtest
[11:55] <soreau> justin_: To use the open driver you will need at least 2.6.32 kernel, and latest libdrm, mesa and xf86-video-ati
[11:55] <x[x]> which is CURRENTLY doing
[11:55] <hipitihop> Daugha|n, is there a way to see the boot process to see perhaps at what stage it pauses and waits to maybe get a hint at the problem ?
[11:56] <soreau> justin_: also to use the open driver, you cannot have fglrx installed in any way (fglrx is the proprietary driver from amd)
[11:56] <justin_> soreau: Well, what I really wann't to know is what pakage I need to support OpenGL runtime
[11:56] <jiohdi> x[x]: when it ends it just dumps you out to a terminal?
[11:56] <x[x]> i dont know
[11:56] <soreau> justin_: Pastebin your X log
[11:56] <x[x]> it hasnt ended yet
[11:56] <x[x]> its doing it at the moment
[11:56] <jiohdi> ah
[11:56] <norbi905> Hello.  Try #2 and still trying to get sound working.  Fresh install of 9.10 x64 and Audigy 2 zs.  lspci does now show anything in regards to a driver being installed.  I was under the impression that it came preloaded within the kernel.  Under System->Preferences->Sound-> Hardware tab I am not shown anything.  I remember using Ubuntu a while ago on this same computer and the sound card worked.  Then there was an
[11:56] <norbi905> update that killed it.  I since switched back to windows, and now I wanted to give it another try and it's still not working.  Any help is appreciated.
[11:56] <x[x]> jiohdi ..when it ends ill come back here
[11:56] <x[x]> brb
[11:56] <Daugha|n> hipitihop: syslog after boot, I guess.....Its timestamped, so you shoud be able to see where its gagging.
[11:56] <Aled> How could I make a partition in xubuntu?
[11:56] <what> norbi905: i found a lot of times with the creative audigy 2's that its muted
[11:57] <Daugha|n> hipitihop: BTW, I's'a newb.
[11:57] <chilipepper> movie time
[11:57] <valajbeg> hello, how can i kill/remove uninterruptible process???
[11:57] <justin_> soreau: To be frank, I don't think you are listining to my question...
[11:57] <what> open a terminal and run alsamixer, and check out the toggles far right
[11:57] <hipitihop> Daugha|n, and that includes the x startup as it goes into user login screen ?
[11:57] <what> think its the digital/something one sorry cant shell in at home atm
[11:57] <soreau> justin_: I am listening. Pastebin /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[11:57] <Daugha|n> hipitihop: I dont remember, I was using it to troubleshoot a lanboot setup.
[11:57] <norbi905> what:  and how can I find this out? Sorry :(
[11:57] <soreau> justin_: The problem is, its not as simple as you might think to get working
[11:57] <zoddan> my GUI wont start after i activated the nvidia driver, How can i go back so the GUI starts?
[11:58] <Daugha|n> hipitihop: I never actuallyy read what was recorded for my system booting,.
[11:58] <hipitihop> Daugha|n, ok will go hunt about, thanks for your assist.
[11:58] <brainbox> whats sound system do i use when compiling my kernel for SB live?
[11:58] <norbi905> when typing alsamixer in a terminal it gives me this -> alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such file or directory
[11:58] <trio> Россияне здесь есть ?
[11:58] <Daugha|n> Ummm........
[11:58] <valajbeg> how can i kill/remove uninterruptible process???
[11:58] <what> o thats good... not..
[11:59] <what> valajbeg: try a kill -9 pid
[11:59] <justin_> soreau: I have almost get it work... But using mesa-swx11 make my machine slow
[11:59] <valajbeg> what, it doesn't work
[11:59] <Daugha|n> hipitihop: /var/log/syslog
[11:59] <valajbeg> what, it's uninterruptible process
[11:59] <oCean__> valajbeg: you can not. That's wat uninterruptible means
[11:59] <what> i get that, jsut sometimes you get lucky
[11:59] <soreau> justin_: Alright you know what? If you dont want to pastebin anything go back to #debian and get help there
[12:00] <valajbeg> oCean__ how to free memory alocated
[12:00] <brainbox> do i compile oss or alsa?
[12:00] <what> valajbeg: maybe you can kill its root process
[12:00] <justin_> soreau: ok, a minute
[12:00] <hipitihop> Daugha|n, looking now...
[12:00] <oCean__> valajbeg: I'm afraid only a reboot will solve that
[12:00] <valajbeg> oCean__, thank you
[12:01] <valajbeg> what, interestingly
[12:01] <what> http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=7783967&postcount=7 there it is norbi905
[12:01] <what> valajbeg: yes?
[12:01] <valajbeg> it disapeared
[12:01] <what> o:
[12:01] <valajbeg> :D
[12:01] <christophetd> ero
[12:02] <what> that happens too, if you watch a bunch die at once you may see an alarming # of <defunct> processes as well
[12:02] <justin_> soreau: http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/d3834c4df
[12:02] <what> should have seen me freak out the first time i saw 50 of those
[12:03] <trio> удалил самбу через Synaptic вместе с ним удалились типы сервиса во вкладке соединение с сервером
[12:03] <trio> Как востановить типы сервиса во вкладке соединение с сервером?
[12:03] <trio> removed samba through Synaptic with him exiting types of service in the tab connection to the server
[12:03] <trio> How to restore service types in the tab connection to the server?
[12:03] <quibbler> !ru | trio
[12:03] <papul> hi guys
[12:06] <sdgf> hey
[12:06] <sdgf> i wanno know
[12:06] <sdgf> this sounds weird
[12:06] <sdgf> but i wanno know
[12:06] <sdgf> is there a way to chek ntfs from linux
[12:06] <hipitihop> Daugha|n, seems unusually large 95Mb and nearly all of the following http://paste.ubuntu.com/358007/
[12:07] <soreau> justin_: AFAICT, your X.org server is too old to use that version of fglrx
[12:07] <coz_> sdgf,  check as in access... ?
[12:07] <jiohdi> sdgf, ntfs can be mounted by a linux distro, though its support is not perfect as ntfs is not free
[12:07] <norbi905> what:  That did not help me unfortunately.  Thanks for your help though.  I had to download gnome-alsamixer, but it keeps crashing on me once i hit ->Edit->Soundcard properties
[12:07] <sdgf> cuz
[12:07] <sdgf> command
[12:07] <justin_> soreau: but I cann't find the right driver when using 1.7.4
[12:07] <sdgf> or package
[12:08] <sdgf> i believe scandisk sucks
[12:08] <KamaL> Hello there. I have a windows 2003 server, and willing to install ubuntu desktop on a second partition. since i have very little experience with it, i thought to install it though the Windows installer, and then reboot to ubuntu, and connect though remote desktop
[12:08] <KamaL> is that possible?
[12:08] <soreau> justin_: For fglrx, my guess is that 1.7.4 is too new
[12:08] <coz_> sdgf,  first its a good idea to use the nick of the person you are speaking with...type the first 3 letter of their nick and hit tab to complete..also its a good idea to  post your message in a single line instead of two or three line entries
[12:09] <Daugha|n> hipitihop: Wow.....
[12:09] <soreau> justin_: You need a happy medium like 1.6.x
[12:09] <justin_> soreau: u r right
[12:09] <hipitihop> Daugha|n, any idea what it is complaining about, looks usb related
[12:09] <justin_> soreau: but I don't know how to install a specific version
[12:09] <kinja-sheep> KamaL: If you're talking about Wubi, it is another way of dual-boot by placing the files on C:\ partition instead of partitioning the HDD to make a new partition.
[12:09] <x[x]> jiohdi
[12:10] <jiohdi> KamaL: in my experience... the wubi.exe worked fine to install ubuntu but it did it in a way that made it crash when updates came later.
[12:10] <x[x]> im gonna fix Grub via the live CD
[12:10] <hipitihop> Daugha|n, is syslog cleared each boot ?
[12:10] <x[x]> cheers dude
[12:10] <jiohdi> x[x]: cheers
[12:10] <soreau> justin_: Alternatively you can scrap fglrx and run all very latest components (namely your kernel, libdrm, mesa, xf86-video-ati and X) to get 3D working
[12:10] <Daugha|n> hipitihop: No, more than just usb...Its also having sensor errors...Almost looks like it hasnt completely shutdown........
[12:11] <Daugha|n> hipitihop: I dunno.....Like I said, I was using it for something entirely different.
[12:11] <KamaL> kinja-sheep and jiohdi: well, since I don't have remote access like KVM right now, I can't do it the traditional way. So I though I'd do it through the windows installer, but the questions is: will i be able to connect through remote desktop????
[12:11] <Daugha|n> hipitihop: Gimme a bit more to look through the whole thing.
[12:11] <soreau> justin_: and yet another alternative is to actually use a ubuntu distro so you arent stuck in debians no mans land
[12:12] <hipitihop> Daugha|n, I have you from line one and afaict it is the same all the way through
[12:12] <justin_> soreau: I hope I hadn't upgrade xorg...
[12:12] <hipitihop> Daugha|n, should I delete the log and reboot and see what we get ?
[12:13] <soreau> justin_: According to that X log you posted, you are still using 1.4.2
[12:13] <justin_> I see that 2
[12:13] <kinja-sheep> KamaL: I suppose you can. You'll be running Ubuntu natively on non-linux filesystem. Remote Desktop is meh-meh. Use ssh. It makes things nice.
[12:13] <justin_> So is there a way to install, say , 1.7.3
[12:13] <justin_> soreau: that used to work for me
[12:13] <KamaL> i have no idea how to use ssh :/ I need an easy to use GUI
[12:14] <Ray304> .
[12:14] <Ray304> hi
[12:14] <tjibbaNL> i cant update or install anyting, getting this error http://files.uploadffs.com/c/6/3a16664a/Screenshot.png
[12:14] <kinja-sheep> KamaL: Props to you for using Server 2K3. It's better than Vista. I used to use Server 2K3 (Converted to Workstation).
[12:14] <soreau> justin_: If you want to use fglrx I would try 1.6.x but however to install a specific version of X is beyond the scope of this channel especially because it justworks on ubuntu and you are using debian
[12:14] <DeLiK> How can i make my camera and microphone work on ubuntu 9.10 (i'm in a Compaq MINI 110, and the camera and microphone are inlayed in the screen
[12:14] <kinja-sheep> KamaL: And XP too (except games). If you're new, that's fine. Remote desktop it is. :)
[12:14] <hipitihop> kamal, so use menut "Places...connect to server" and then hose SSH
[12:14] <Daugha|n> hipitihop: WHat is this a laptop?
[12:15] <coz_> DeLiK,  is this laptop?
[12:15] <Ubee> Question: Does netflix streaming work on Ubuntu?
[12:15] <kinja-sheep> KamaL: What is it that you're trying to accomplish?
[12:15] <DeLiK> yes
[12:15] <hipitihop> Daugha|n, Aces Aspire 5630
[12:15] <Ray304> Does freenode accept gmail for registration?
[12:15] <hipitihop> Daugha|n, grr ... Acer
[12:15] <DeLiK> Qompaq mini 110
[12:15] <soreau> justin_: But if you have up/downgraded X and that brike it, try simply reinstalling fglrx if you havent tried that already
[12:15] <Daugha|n> That a laptop?
[12:15] <kinja-sheep> Ray304: #freenode
[12:15] <coz_> DeLiK, well for the mike  you might want to go to #also channel for.... for the cam  well  ..did you test it with an application like   camorama?
[12:15] <KamaL> I don't have physical access to the server. I wanna be able to install ubuntu desktop and connect through remote remote desktop WITHOUT the need of physicall access
[12:15] <Daugha|n> hipitihop: Is that a laptop?
[12:16] <justin_> soreau: well, thx anyway, I'll try to upgrade all stuffs to the highest version
[12:16] <justin_> soreau: Hope that works
[12:16] <DeLiK> no, i'll do it.
[12:16] <beyecixramd> KamaL: SSH?
[12:16] <kinja-sheep> KamaL: I see. I am not sure if Remote Desktop is enabled by default.
[12:16] <Ray304> i couldn't talk in #freenode
[12:16] <Ray304> i was asked to register but couldn't
[12:16] <beyecixramd> kinja-sheep: it's not
[12:16] <Ubee> Question Again: Does Netflix Online Movie Streaming work on Ubuntu?
[12:16] <hipitihop> Daugha|n, to be precise, Acer-Aspire 5634WLMi
[12:16] <soreau> justin_: Im telling if you do, you need to ditch fglrx and go for the open driver. More help for the open driver than any other and in #radeon
[12:17] <KamaL> kinja-sheep: I see. I'll install it and ask the guys in the DC to enable remote desktop
[12:17] <Daugha|n> hipitihop: OK, I dont have all computer models memorized, I just need to know if it is a laptop or not.
[12:17] <soreau> justin_: fglrx simply will not work with latest components X and kernel
[12:17] <beyecixramd> KamaL: you could make a remix of it, maybe?
[12:17] <beyecixramd> a remix of the Ubuntu CD with remote desktop enabled by default
[12:17] <kinja-sheep> Ubee: I don't know. All I know is that Netflix uses MS-Silverlight with silly DRM features. If you have the account, you can try.
[12:17] <hipitihop> Daugha|n, yes, a laptop, dual core T5600 and has NVidia GeForce Go 7300
[12:18] <DeLiK> coz_: camorama says "could not connect to viedo device (/dev/video0) PLease check connection
[12:18] <justin_> soreau: then what kind of open driver will fit?
[12:18] <coz_> DeLiK,  ok  let me see if there is a link to supported cameras  hold on
[12:18] <soreau> justin_: radeon. You want to use radeon
[12:18] <Daugha|n> hipitihop: I'm just trying to figure out what usb devices are native hardware. =)
[12:19] <coz_> DeLiK,   check here    https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras
[12:19] <Daugha|n> hipitihop: Do you have any external usb devices plugged in?
[12:19] <justin_> soreau: not familiar with that
[12:19] <Ubee> Question: Does Blockbuster's Online Moviestream work on Ubuntu?
[12:19] <jiohdi> Ubee: netflix sight says XP and mac OSX only
[12:20] <jiohdi> site*
[12:20] <gajo_p> hey, any way to get Times New Roman installed? i don't seem to have it
[12:21] <hipitihop> Daugha|n, yes, it has 4 x usb ports, two on side two on back and yes have things plugged in but only significant one is a bluetooth dongle driving wireless keyboard & mouse
[12:21] <soreau> justin_: It is simple. Completely remove fglrx from the system. Upgrade to all latest components of kernel (at least 2.6.32), libdrm, mesa, xf86-video-ati and X then move or delete xorg.conf and it will automatically pick the radeon driver
[12:21] <kinja-sheep> Ubee: http://www.dwasifar.com/?p=531
[12:22] <hipitihop> Daugha|n, others 2 have 1 x bluetooth headset charger cable but nothing plugged into cable and the other is powering fan on laptop pad
[12:22] <justin_> soreau:  is my diver radeon based?  ATI Technologies Inc RV730 [FirePro V5700] ATI Technologies Inc RV730 [FirePro V5700]
[12:22] <kinja-sheep> Ubee: Maybe. Maybe not because there are no native Silverlight, I think. There are clones (probably with missing API for DRM stuffs).
[12:22] <justin_> my card
[12:22] <soreau> justin_: Yea, it is an rv730
[12:23] <soreau> justin_: The radeon driver will work with it with latest components that I mentioned
[12:23] <Daugha|n> hipitihop: Ok, unplug al the external usb devices for now, then try a reboot and see what happens. =) I;m half expecting the cooler to be the issue.
[12:23] <soreau> justin_: Much easier to get working than fglrx and much more support for the radeon driver
[12:23] <hipitihop> Daugha|n, interestinng ok, standby
[12:23] <DeLiK> coz_: how do i find out the make of my camera lol (all i can see is the lens pointing me lol)
[12:23] <justin_> soreau: Ok, thx a lot, I'll try that
[12:24] <pokoko222> hello
[12:24] <Ubee> I want to watch streamed movies online where should I go that has a large selection .
[12:24] <justin_> soreau: Another question, after installing  2.6.32, I found it cann't boot successfully, do u know why?
[12:24] <coz_> DeLiK,  in all honesty I rarely deal with webcam issues  be let me check
[12:24] <Ray304> were anyone in here able to register with Gmail?
[12:25] <soreau> justin_: What happens when you try to boot it?
[12:25] <coz_> DeLiK,    look here    https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam
[12:25] <pokoko222> [INFO]	This channel requires that you have registered and identified yourself with the network's nickname registration services (e.g. NickServ). Please see the documentation of this network's nickname registration services that should be found in the MOTD (/motd to display it). Why do i get that message when i try to log in #haskell?
[12:25] <rww> pokoko222: because you're not registered and/or identified
[12:25] <rww> ubottu: register | pokoko222
[12:25] <Ray304> I'm having the same problem as pokoko222
[12:26] <justin_> soreau:  halts for a long time, then kernel panic or something
[12:26] <justin_> soreau: but can boot up manully
[12:26] <soreau> justin_: manually?
[12:26] <justin_> soreau: ps, I'm using gurb
[12:26] <justin_> soreau: ps, I'm using grub
[12:27] <hellyeah> jry
[12:27] <hellyeah> hey
[12:28] <hellyeah> how can i look what the partition is ntf fat ext
[12:28] <hellyeah> 3
[12:28] <hellyeah> whatis command
[12:28] <lolla> if i am using ubuntu distro and instal it in vbox  and i cannot see my fat32 partion and ntfs partion what should i do to see it ? by the way my host system is windows xp
[12:29] <soreau> hellyeah: Try fsck
[12:29] <Ubee> jjjjjSdASD
[12:29] <hellyeah> is there fsck.ntfs ?
[12:30] <soreau> I doubt it
[12:30] <hellyeah> anyone use ntfsfix ?
[12:30] <pokoko222> rww once i register how to hide my ip
[12:30] <Ubee> Is there any service that provides online videostreaming for Ubuntu similar to Netflix?
[12:31] <rww> pokoko222: /join #freenode and ask them about getting a cloak
[12:31] <hellyeah> hey
[12:31] <hellyeah> is there anyone who uses ntfsfix to check ntfs from linux
[12:31] <hellyeah> ?
[12:32] <ziroday> Ubee: hulu?
[12:32] <coz_> Ubee,   yeah I was going to suggest hulu as well but of course you are limited to what they have online
[12:32] <coz_> Ubee,   mm let me check something
[12:32] <jiohdi> Ubee, moviefather.com but I suspect a lot of its content is illegal
[12:33] <hellyeah> pls answer
[12:34] <berserk_ren> hellyeah, nope, i just mount ntfs drive and it's works just perfect =]
[12:34] <hipitihop> Daugha|n, nothing plugged in to any usb port but startup still slow..after I deleted syslog and did second boot I now see normal log but it also still drops into cycling with the previous usb related error
[12:34] <coz_> Ubee, there is a think called  "User Agent Switch" for firefox plugins that could fool netflix into t hinking it is running on windows  but I am not sure
[12:35] <Daugha|n> You have it booted and running?
[12:35] <jiohdi> Ubee: you can run firefox from wine and many sites think it is from XP
[12:35] <Daugha|n> hipitihop: Is it running?
[12:35] <berserk_ren> but better is to make drive in ext3-ext4 and specify mount point like /downloads / files /***** so i do not have to mount the drive =}
[12:35] <hipitihop> Daugha|n, and it seems the log keeps growing, already at .5mb
[12:35] <hellyeah> berserk_ren,  i just check ntfs fom linux
[12:35] <Daugha|n> hipitihop: OK, so, it wont finish booting?
[12:35] <hellyeah> berserk_ren,  nfs paritition is mounted
[12:36] <berserk_ren> and it should work =]
[12:36] <hipitihop> Daugha|n, it eventually shows the x login screen with list of users
[12:36] <Daugha|n> hipitihop: OK, wait till then, and login. See if the webcam and touchpad work.
[12:36] <SealedWithAKiss> Ubuntu is saying that I can only perform a partial upgrade - this is causing the 'Updates are available' icon to be on my system tray permanently.
[12:36] <SealedWithAKiss> Anybody help?
[12:37] <SealedWithAKiss> When I click partial upgrade, I get the error message 'Could not calculate the upgrade'.
[12:38] <boss_mc> SealedWithAKiss: what does 'sudo aptitude safe-upgrade' say about it?
[12:38] <coz_> Ubee,  you may also want to read this    http://developer.netflix.com/forum/read/49086
[12:38] <coz_> Ubee,  you might also want to keep an eye on Moonlight
[12:39] <oni-chan> hi@all, sombody know how i get the versions of my gcc headers sychron?
[12:39] <coz_> Ubee,  the linux  Silverlite thingy
[12:39] <coz_> or silverlight
[12:39] <SealedWithAKiss> boss_mc, I get a 404 because the IP address couldn't be resolved.
[12:39] <hipitihop> Daugha|n, touch pad works, about to test webcam, although the laptop user claims the webcam never worked since th eupgrade
[12:39] <boss_mc> SealedWithAKiss: which server are you using?
[12:40] <SealedWithAKiss> boss_mc, I'm a complete novice. So you're going to have to break things down a little more for me, if you could.
[12:40] <SealedWithAKiss> boss_mc, I could PM your the output of the command you told me to perform.
[12:40] <x[x]> jiohdi
[12:40] <x[x]> im stuck :(
[12:40] <Daugha|n> hipitihop: That may be the prob right there. Firmware or driver issues.
[12:40] <taofd> anyone here experienced w/ svn or specifically, mirroring repositories?
[12:40] <boss_mc> SealedWithAKiss: go ahead
[12:41] <hipitihop> Daugha|n, nd skype certainly claims not to see any webcam device. so what next
[12:41] <Daugha|n> Skype isnt reliable......try hwdata
[12:42] <hipitihop> Daugha|n, lsusb seems to lsit it
[12:42] <hipitihop> Daugha|n, lsusb output "Bus 001 Device 082: ID 046d:0896 Logitech, Inc. OrbiCam"
[12:43] <Daugha|n> hipitihop: look at your address'. Thats your problem addy. I guess try finding firmware and.or drivers foir it.
[12:43] <hipitihop> Daugha|n, installing hwdata, standby
[12:43] <Daugha|n> hipitihop:  DOnt need it.
[12:43] <hipitihop> Daugha|n, it used to work in previous versions until Karmic
[12:43] <Daugha|n> hipitihop: Look at the addy lsusb gave you.
[12:44] <Daugha|n> hipitihop: Device ID 046d:0896
[12:44] <Daugha|n> hipitihop: Thats the bus ID that is causing the cycling.
[12:45] <Daugha|n> hipitihop: I *did* mention tat karmic ugrade package has seri9ous issues, did I not?? =)
[12:46] <sllide> is there a video editor with effects like explosions and green screen for linux?
[12:46] <sllide> something simmilar to after effects
[12:46] <hipitihop> Daugha|n, indeed you did
[12:46] <nastas> hi all
[12:46] <Vibhor> nastas:hi
[12:47] <DeLiK> coz_: luvcview made it work
[12:47] <DeLiK> eheh
[12:47] <gorthaug> hi, i've a problem, when amule it's openned more than one day... Xorg use all the CPU, if i close amule Xorg stop using all the CPU...
[12:47] <DeLiK> and now what
[12:47] <Daugha|n> hipitihop: Ok, now ya know where the isue is, and, its prolly a driver issue, though fimrware is always a possibility as well.
[12:47] <DeLiK> :)
[12:47] <hipitihop> Daugha|n, although I thought when it came to webcams, then support was kernal based for some time
[12:47] <DeLiK> the camera
[12:47] <coz_> DeLiK,  very cool :)
[12:47] <Daugha|n> hipitihop: I have ni clue. I did mention I am a newb, right?=)
[12:48] <jiohdi> anyone know how to put a graphic system monitor on the panel in Ubuntu Netbook remix?
[12:48] <chipgeri> unsafe permissions on configuration file `/home/ganesh/.gnupg/gpg.conf'  how do i solve this?
[12:48] <hipitihop> Daugha|n, ok, something to hunt down, and from one newb to another, thanks
[12:49] <llutz> chipgeri: chmod 600 .ssh/*
[12:49] <Daugha|n> hipitihop: No worries,and good luck.
[12:49] <soreau> jiohdi: Many lower end graphics hardware dont have monitoring hardware built in. Not sure if this is the case for your chipset
[12:49] <llutz> chipgeri: chmod 600 .gnupg/*   sorry
[12:49] <DeLiK> coz_: how can i use this information to make it work in other programs? SDL information:
[12:49] <DeLiK>   Video driver: x11
[12:49] <DeLiK>   A window manager is available
[12:49] <DeLiK> Device information:
[12:49] <DeLiK>   Device path:  /dev/video0
[12:49] <FloodBot3> DeLiK: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:49] <DeLiK> Stream settings:
[12:49] <beyecixramd> DeLiK: no spam...
[12:49] <jiohdi> soreau: I have nvidia
[12:50] <DeLiK> sory my bad...
[12:50] <Daugha|n> hipitihop: Let me know if I can help ya with anything else.
[12:50] <jiohdi> soreau: its not a problem of hardware, there does not seem to be a way to add things to the panel on UNR
[12:50] <coz_> DeLiK,  that would be a question for someone else  I have little experience with these issues   ,,,, but I am sure someone here...at some point will have more informations
[12:51] <hipitihop> Daugha|n, thanks, I'm just doing some googling at the moment.
[12:53] <hipitihop> Daugha|n, currently looking at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=322218
[12:53] <hipitihop> Daugha|n, although Is ee it is 2006 thread, so probably doesn;t apply
[12:55] <Daugha|n> hipitihop: this ginna take a while, but I'll check it out. Give nme time, and I'll get back to you. -=)
[12:56] <chipgeri> llutz: same warning.."unsafe permissions on configuration file `/home/ganesh/.gnupg/gpg.conf'"
[12:57] <ardchoille> chipgeri: my permission for that file are:  -rw-------
[12:57] <llutz> chipgeri: ls -l home/ganesh/.gnupg/gpg.conf
[12:57] <llutz> chipgeri: are you owner of that file?
[12:59] <hipitihop> Daugha|n, I mounted usbfs to get more details and if you see last device it says drive is none. ... http://paste.ubuntu.com/358028/
[13:00] <Daugha|n> hipitihop: Keep this in mind...My sys is so busy right now, it takes me a full inute ti switch screens from here to browser, and another minute to switch back. Thats why I am so slow right now. =)
[13:00] <chipgeri> llutz: ardchoille:   -rw------- 1 ganesh ganesh 9364 2009-11-21 23:22 /home/ganesh/.gnupg/gpg.conf
[13:00] <ardchoille> chipgeri: That's what it should be
[13:01] <chipgeri> ardchoille: i tried this  "gpg --keyserver hkp://keyserver.ubuntu.com:11371 --recv-key 881574DE && gpg -a --export 881574DE | sudo apt-key add -"
[13:02] <gatty> Daugha|n: lsmod | grep vc032x
[13:02] <JakobSteinn> Hi everyone! When I open my gnome-terminal the 'box' is empty, what can I do?  It does not output the "user@host" stuff in the beginning.
[13:03] <soreau> JakobSteinn: What about sometime later, after this beginning?
[13:03] <ardchoille> chipgeri: That doesn't look right for some reason
[13:04] <Daugha|n> hipitihop: No driver. There ya go. Diag done. =)
[13:04] <chipgeri> ardchoille: i did not get you
[13:04] <osirisx11> my workspace applet is ignoring changes in preferences to increase the number of workspaces, ideas?
[13:04] <fredensborg> Is this a different #Ubuntu channel from the one on Freenode?
[13:04] <jrib> fredensborg: no
[13:04]  * Daugha|n thought we were on freenode.
[13:04] <soreau> osirisx11: Are you running compiz?
[13:05] <soreau> fredensborg: This is freenode
[13:05] <jrib> Daugha|n: some people connect to irc.ubuntu.com so it's not clear it's freenode :)
[13:05] <ardchoille> chipgeri: I';ve never seen it done that way, I've always seen: sudo apt-key adv
[13:05] <JakobSteinn> soreau, Hi thanks for reply, The whole box is empty.
[13:05] <hipitihop> Daugha|n, yes, but either I need to find the correct driver ort I somehow have to disbale this device as it is clearly causing a problem, not to mention chewing megs of log space
[13:05] <Daugha|n> jrib: Thats what MOTD is for. =)
[13:05] <ardchoille> chipgeri: man apt-key
[13:05] <gatty> hipitihop: you need the gspca_vc032x driver
[13:05] <fredensborg> OK, I thought irc.ubutnu.com was a separate network, but obviously it isn't
[13:06] <soreau> JakobSteinn: Do you happen to have desktop effects enabled in sys>prefs>appearance>visual effects? ie. anything other than None
[13:06] <Daugha|n> jrib: I use ubuntu.com to connect, I just read.
[13:06] <ouyes> hi
[13:06] <Like> help
[13:06] <Like> hi ouyes
[13:06] <JakobSteinn> soreau: Yes.
[13:06] <Like> i need help please oll the channel know me pls help :'(
[13:06] <ardchoille> jrib: doesn't irc.ubuntu.com simply point to freenode's #ubuntu ?
[13:07] <ouyes> how to uninstall a .run ati official driver?
[13:07] <Daugha|n> hipitihop: gatty may be able to help ya.
[13:07] <soreau> JakobSteinn: If you set it to None, does it make a difference?
[13:07] <jrib> ardchoille: yeah
[13:07] <jrib> !ati > ouyes
[13:07] <Like> is my sond x-fi xtreme audio pci-eeeeeeeeeeeee
[13:07] <ouyes> Like,  what is your problem
[13:07] <hipitihop> Daugha|n, gatty ?
[13:07] <Like> no sound in ubuntu
[13:07]  * gatty waves at hipitihop
[13:07] <ouyes> jrib,  thank you
[13:07] <Like> i dont hear that in 2.1 :)
[13:07] <JakobSteinn> soreau: No not at all. :(
[13:07] <Daugha|n> hipitihop: Scroll back.
[13:08] <Like> @lart @ all
[13:08] <hipitihop> gatty, aah so how do I activate that driver ?
[13:08] <ouyes> Like, can you see the icon of the sound
[13:08] <gatty> hipitihop: I'm just trying to find out which kernel versions it was included in, it seems pretty new.
[13:08] <Like> hey think about a fressssss install off ubuntu
[13:08] <Like> nothing with oSS
[13:09] <soreau> JakobSteinn: So its not a compositing or graphics issue.. something is wrong with your terminal
[13:09] <Like> And need too heard some
[13:09] <hipitihop> gatty how do I list my version ?
[13:09] <gatty> hipitihop: uname -a
[13:09] <Like> can be in lucid alpha 2 ?
[13:09] <Like> ouyes
[13:09] <Daugha|n> hipitihop: gatty asked if you needed that driver.
[13:09] <Like> :))
[13:09] <Daugha|n> OK.... =)
[13:09] <JakobSteinn> soreau: Well I installed the wm 'awsome' and then when I opened a terminal, tried both xterm and gnome-terminal it was just blank.. so I went back to gnome and uninstalled.. but nothing got better, sadly.
[13:09] <ouyes> somebody do help Like, by the way, find out your chip type of your sound
[13:10] <hipitihop> Daugha|n, yes thanks, I'm up to speed now thanks.
[13:10] <justin_> soreau: is soreau still here?
[13:10] <Daugha|n> Cool, good luck, hipitihop
[13:10] <hipitihop> gatty, "2.6.31-17-generic #54-Ubuntu SMP Thu Dec 10 17:01:44 UTC 2009 x86_64 GNU/Linux"
[13:10] <Like> CA0110-IBG
[13:10] <ouyes> Like, i have never had an issue like you
[13:10] <gatty> hipitihop: seems to be from 2.6.27 onwards in mainline from what I can tell, so you should have it
[13:11] <soreau> justin_: Hi
[13:11] <gatty> hipitihop: see if 'dmesg |grep -i vc032x' shows anything enlightening
[13:11] <ouyes> Like,  first go to system>admin>hardware driver> to see if there is a proper driver for your sound card
[13:11] <Like> yea h is
[13:11] <soreau> JakobSteinn: I dont know what is going on there.. maybe you can check your terminal profile?
[13:12] <hipitihop> gatty, [ 2455.286895] vc032x: Unknown sensor...
[13:12] <hipitihop> [ 2455.286930] vc032x: probe of 1-4:1.0 failed with error -22
[13:12] <hipitihop> [ 2455.758552] vc032x: check sensor header 2c
[13:12] <hipitihop> [ 2455.784439] vc032x: I2c Bus Busy Wait 2c
[13:12] <FloodBot3> hipitihop: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:12] <soreau> JakobSteinn: Maybe the text color is the same as the background
[13:12] <justin_> soreau: Hi, do I have to download xf86-video and compile it myself?
[13:12] <soreau> justin_: Not if you can find packages for your distro..
[13:12] <gatty> hipitihop: ah... so it doesn't know what the camera chip in your webcam is, but it does know it's there.
[13:13] <vargadanis> hi... I have installed apache2 and it worked fine.. I rebooted the computer and now when i enter localhost into the browser i get and error that it could not connect to server
[13:13] <vargadanis> i can ping localhost and the interfaces should be ok, as well i have started apache and i can see the apache pid
[13:13] <vargadanis> any tips why that could be?
[13:13] <ardchoille> vargadanis: there was a fix for that,lemme find it..
[13:13] <ardchoille> !lamp
[13:14] <ouyes> jrib,  there is something on  the site you gave me,but it did not solve my problem, i just want to uninstall an official ati driver
[13:14] <gatty> hipitihop: all I can suggest is you grab the latest video4linux tree from their mercurial repo and try that - still no guarantee it'll work though.
[13:14] <soreau> justin_: Of course debian calls it something different than upstream like xorg-video-driver-ati or something.. but you need a very recent version and also your kernel, libdrm, mesa and X  are equally as important
[13:14] <justin_> soreau: I'm afraid it's not in my sourcelist..
[13:14] <gatty> hipitihop: if you want help with that just shout.
[13:14] <jrib> ouyes: you have to read the documentation provided by ati then.  Usually there are some switches you can pass to the .run.  Try passing --help as well to see if there is any info there
[13:14] <justin_> soreau: I'm wondering if there's a specification or something
[13:15] <justin_> soreau: 'cause I did't find anything else on the site
[13:15] <ardchoille> vargadanis: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP#Troubleshooting%20Apache
[13:15] <soreau> justin_: If you want to just build everything by hand it might be better.. look at the link in the topic of #radeon
[13:16] <vargadanis> ardchoille, that is not it... apache seems to be running but i can't connect to it... is there a firewall in ubunutu/kubuntu by default that is installed
[13:16] <vargadanis> ?
[13:16] <ouyes> jrib, there is an instruction file to instruct installation but no uninstalling
[13:16] <JakobSteinn> soreau: no I wish so but my friend and I also ssh to this computer and we even could not write anything from there..  well yes we can write something but it has no effect..
[13:16] <justin_> soreau:  ok, but would you like to check the source of xf86-video for me.
[13:16] <ardchoille> vargadanis: how are you trying to connect to it?
[13:16] <justin_> soreau: debian is using the same thing actually
[13:17] <vargadanis> ardchoille, in FX: http://localhost :)
[13:17] <[NL]Tjibba> how do i replace /var/lib/dpkg/available with /var/lib/dpkg/available.old
[13:17] <ardchoille> vargadanis: That fix worked for me in the same situation you're in. Have you tried that fix?
[13:17] <vargadanis> ardchoille, or do you know a way to confirm that apache runs?
[13:17] <soreau> JakobSteinn: Sounds like you broke your ubuntu ;)
[13:17] <Seveas> [NL]Tjibba, sudo mv /var/lib/dpkg/available.old /var/lib/dpkg/available
[13:17] <jrib> ouyes: what is the link to the instruction file you are reading?  http://www2.ati.com/drivers/linux/linux_8.24.8.html suggests uninstallation instructions for that version at least
[13:18] <Like> omg!!!! :'(
[13:18] <[NL]Tjibba> ty
[13:18] <vargadanis> ardchoille, alright, i'll try that thank you
[13:18] <gatty> vargadanis: also try http://<IP_ADDRESS>/ in case apache hasn't bound to IPv6 version of localhost - FFX prefers IPv6 addresses by default.
[13:18] <vargadanis> gatty, okie
[13:18] <soreau> justin_: If you are serious about getting the open driver working, read the wiki link found in the #radeon topic and ask any questions you have about it in that channel
[13:18] <vargadanis> gatty, nope that didn't help
[13:19] <gatty> vargadanis: ok, go with ardchoille's suggestion :)
[13:19] <vargadanis> gatty, okie :)
[13:20] <hipitihop> gatty, sorry got called away...back now... I'm happy to wait for things to catch up, is there some way to simply disable it for now ?
[13:20] <JakobSteinn> soreau; i am scrued! haha. Do you have any suggestions on what i can do?
[13:20] <ouyes> jrib, ah man thank you
[13:20] <gatty> hipitihop: is it causing you a problem?  USB resets or something?
[13:21] <hipitihop> gatty, don't really use/depend on the webcam, but the problem is causing massive logs and very slow boot/login so if I can disable it then we can ignore it for now
[13:21] <soreau> JakobSteinn: Well the first thing to fixing it is identifying the problem. Unfortunately I have no idea how you broke it
[13:21] <hipitihop> gatty, e.g. syslog 95mg
[13:21] <osirisx11> my workspace applet is ignoring changes in preferences to increase the number of workspaces, ideas?
[13:21] <hipitihop> gatty, e.g. "I2c Bus Busy Wait 2c" lines and lines and lines of it
[13:22] <gatty> hipitihop: add 'gspca_vc032x' to /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist-custom
[13:22] <gatty> assuming blacklisting modules still works that way on your ubuntu release - I still use 8.04 LTS as I mainly run servers :)
[13:22] <hipitihop> gatty, but I suspect there is no driver being loaded ... see last device http://paste.ubuntu.com/358028/
[13:23] <ouyes> jrib, there is no /usr/share/fglrx directory
[13:23] <jrib> ouyes: well I linked you to some random release notes.  You need to read the release notes for *your* version
[13:23] <JakobSteinn> soreau: Yea... well I installed the desktop manager 'awesome' and then afterwards my terminal went like "ka-booom"
[13:23] <gatty> hipitihop: it is loading - that's what the dmesg output is... but it's failing to determine what type of camera sensor is attached to the USB video bridge... the vc032x driver talks to the bridge, then tries to detect the camera sensor IC and can't, hence the I2C errors.
[13:24] <vargadanis> ardchoille, I have tried that thing and then i tried to restart apache and apache2ctl told me that there is no running pid.. tried to start it and then stop it and i got the same message
[13:24] <vargadanis> ardchoille, any tips why apache2 might fail to start?
[13:24] <ouyes> jrib,  you are right, i am in a quite hurry,
[13:24] <hipitihop> gatty, ok, blacklist-custom doe snot exist, is that what you expect ? i.e I should create new one ?
[13:24] <gatty> vargadanis: apache's error log should tell you.
[13:24] <ouyes> jrib, i find it
[13:24] <ardchoille> vargadanis: Try: sudo /usr/sbin/apache2ctl restart
[13:25] <gatty> hipitihop: let me check on a 9.x box I have at work, give me a couple of mins.
[13:25] <hipitihop> gatty, I do have empty blacklist though
[13:25] <soreau> JakobSteinn: MAybe you can try creating a new users
[13:25] <JakobSteinn> yea maybe..
[13:25] <vargadanis> gatty, error.log file shows no entried for the past few mins when i tried
[13:26] <vargadanis> ardchoille, tried it... sais apache2 not running, trying to start... no result :S apache still won't start
[13:26] <vargadanis> gatty, do you think that syslog might tell me something? Or some other logfile?
[13:26] <hipitihop> gatty, ignore that. do have a blacklist.conf
[13:26] <ardchoille> vargadanis: How did you install apache?
[13:26] <soreau> JakobSteinn: If another user is ok this points to a bad setting in your home folder
[13:26] <gatty> hipitihop: add it to blacklist.conf
[13:27] <gatty> hipitihop: without the quotes, obviously :)
[13:27] <surf> hi I have a problem with wi-fi disconnection. Someone told me it was an antheros driver problem so I need to add a patch or something. How can I do it? any idea?
[13:27] <RS-232> hi
[13:27] <vargadanis> ardchoille, out of the repos
[13:27] <RS-232> How can I hid a text to replace by a picture?
[13:27] <vargadanis> ardchoille, an 17 14:25:21 ubuntupower kernel: [ 3041.660393] apache2[2934]: segfault at 4 ip b751e0c1 sp bf86eba0 error 4 in libphp5.so[b7200000+4eb000]
[13:27] <gatty> hipitihop: and then you'll need a reboot to make sure it really does blacklist it.
[13:27] <hipitihop> gatty, :-) other line also say "blacklist xxx"
[13:27] <ardchoille> vargadanis: Ah, ok.. well I've never seen taht problem
[13:27] <JakobSteinn> soreau: how do I create another user without my term?
[13:28] <RS-232> I have: <a class="action-edit">Edit</a> and I want to hide the "Edit" text and place my own picture with background:url...? thanks
[13:28] <vargadanis> ardchoille, it seems that it's got some problem with libphp5, right?
[13:28] <soreau> JakobSteinn: I think there is user handling in sys>admin
[13:28] <jrib> RS-232: wrong channel?
[13:28] <gatty> hipitihop: so add a line saying "blacklist gspca_vc032x"
[13:28] <ardchoille> vargadanis: That's what it looks like to me
[13:28] <RS-232> oopss, I though I was in #css sorry
[13:28] <JakobSteinn> soreau: I am kind of handicaped you see? without my term and all..
[13:29] <vargadanis> ardchoille, ohh shoot... ok :) well it's gonna be a long hour :)
[13:29] <hipitihop> gatty, ok done, rebooting to test
[13:29] <soreau> JakobSteinn: Obviously but I think the gui method is in sys>admin>users and groups
[13:29] <marloshouse> i just installed kubuntu on an hp laptop and it's mostly working, except the KDE menus and window title bars are all crunched, i'm not sure what to search for to fix.
[13:30] <marloshouse> the main desktop is fine
[13:30] <marloshouse> and once windows are open, their contents are fine
[13:30] <marloshouse> but the title bars are unreadable
[13:30] <ardchoille> vargadanis: you can try asking in #ubuntu-server
[13:30] <soreau> JakobSteinn: There, you would click Unlock then Add User
[13:31] <soreau> JakobSteinn: Then, log out and log back in as the new user
[13:31] <vargadanis> ardchoille, good tip :)
[13:31] <hipitihop> gatty, legend... many thanks.
[13:31] <Cebedeus> Test
[13:31] <Cebedeus> Oke
[13:31] <gatty> hipitihop: you're welcome, hopefully a future kernel package will contain the driver you need :)
[13:32] <surf> hi I have a problem with wi-fi disconnection. Someone told me it was an antheros driver problem so I need to add a patch or something. How can I do it? any idea?
[13:32] <JakobSteinn> soreau: great! I will try that now (; thanks mate ! maybe I will be back! .. hopefully not. maybe with another problem sometime (:
[13:32] <hipitihop> gatty, indeed. thanks
[13:32] <justin_> soreau: you just mention xorg.conf can be generated automatically, then how ?
[13:33] <soreau> justin_: No, I said you dont need an xorg.conf. Without one, X will automatically choose the radeon driver
[13:33] <alternativo182> hello wordl!!!!
[13:33] <hipitihop> Daugha|n, gatty helped disable it for now so all sorted and reinstall not needed.... thanks for nudging me in the right direction. boot all normal now
[13:34] <justin_> soreau: I have compiled one and have had it installed . Now, time to reboot
[13:34] <ferym> чё, русских нет?
[13:34] <CShadowRun> !ru | ferym
[13:34] <quibbler> !ru | CShadowRun
[13:34] <CShadowRun> wat.
[13:34] <Daugha|n> hipitihop: diag I;m good at, soluitons, however..... =)
[13:34] <ferym> >_<
[13:35] <ferym> hi
[13:35] <hipitihop> Daugha|n, all good... off to bed now. cheers
[13:35] <Daugha|n> hipitihop: Glad he got ya straightened out on that. disableing would have been the next idea, if ya coudnt get a driver for it. Night.
[13:36] <atom_fox> My system always freeze, Ubuntu 9.10... I'm wondering if using ext4 cause the freeze? I'm planning to reinstall 9.10 on a ext3 filesystem
[13:38] <atom_fox> anyone?
[13:46] <ajvzomeren> Test2
[13:46] <ajvzomeren> oke
[13:47] <hid3nax> Anyone know what's with #debian? Can't join it already for two days...
[13:49] <atom_fox> My system freezes from time to time, Ubuntu 9.10.. I still can't fix for about 5 days, I'm wondering if the new file system EXT4 is causing it, I'm not having problems with other OS installed and I noticed that Ubuntu is the only OS installed in EXT4 system
[13:49] <IdleOne> hid3nax: are you identified to nickserv?
[13:50] <vargadanis> ardchoille, the misterious crash is solved
[13:50] <vargadanis> ardchoille, it's a bug in the zend-framework package!
[13:50] <vargadanis> ardchoille, in the /etc/php5/conf.d/zend-framework file there is an entry, include_path that points to /usr/share/php/libzend-framework directory
[13:50] <hid3nax> IdleOne: nope ;-D
[13:51] <vargadanis> ardchoille, if you comment it out and then you modify the php.ini file to include that dir into the include path it works
[13:51] <IdleOne> hid3nax: there is your answer
[13:51] <hid3nax> Oh.. Thanks!
[13:51] <atom_fox> My system freezes from time to time, Ubuntu 9.10.. I still can't fix for about 5 days, I'm wondering if the new file system EXT4 is causing it, I'm not having problems with other OS installed and I noticed that Ubuntu is the only OS installed in EXT4 system
[13:51] <jstoone> join #jMCg
[13:52] <ardchoille> vargadanis: yay! No you can file a bug report :)
[13:52] <norbi905> Hello.  I have an nvidia twinview set-up.  But every single time I reboot, it reverts back to single display.  I for some reason can't save the twinview set-up.  Any solution to this problem?
[13:52] <ardchoille> *Now
[13:52] <vargadanis> atom_fox, ahm I thought the default FS is still Ext3
[13:52] <vargadanis> ardchoille, i don't know how O_o
[13:52] <ardchoille> !bugs | vargadanis
[13:52] <soreau> atom_fox: Are you running compositing desktop effects?
[13:52] <ouyes> after installation and uninstallation there is always a window came out to request me to configrate the VGA, why after an complete uninstallation ( the ati vga driver)
[13:53] <atom_fox> soreau, is that compiz? I have the proper graphic driver installed, I have 4GB memory
[13:54] <vargadanis> ardchoille, it said to use ubuntu-bug command... ahm I get the answer that there is no such command
[13:54] <surf> hi I have a problem with wi-fi disconnection. Someone told me it was an antheros driver problem so I need to add a patch or something. How can I do it? any idea?
[13:55] <ardchoille> vargadanis: nice
[13:55] <atom_fox> soreau, ???
[13:55] <tomasix> Hi
[13:56] <atom_fox> anyone here?
[13:56] <SealedWithAKiss> If I were to upgrade from Hardy to Karmic, would I notice much difference?
[13:57] <atom_fox> I really need help
[13:57] <kinja-sheep> vargadanis: Install apport if you want to use ubuntu-bug
[13:57] <ouyes> SealedWithAKiss,  nothing much, the shorter start time and more beautiful windows
[13:57] <h11amzaatova2> ive a problem to boot -etc/fstab cant be mounted --swap waiting ror --/dev/mapper/cryptswap1
[13:58] <vargadanis> yeah i have found a way
[13:58] <kinja-sheep> SealedWithAKiss: I used Karmic then tried to go back to Hardy but I find that "too behind" for my tastes. LTS == Very nice stable.
[13:59] <ardchoille> SealedWithAKiss: If I were you I'd just wait until Lucid is released in April, it will be an LTS release
[14:00] <backslash7> Hey guys - I'm planning on installing Ubuntu to an usb flash drive by inserting an installation CD into my computer and just install it to the usb drive partition - is that going to work? I need it persistent and will use ext2 (no journaling) and noatime for the root partition. What do you think?
[14:00] <soreau> atom_fox: Is that to say you are using a proprietary graphics driver?
[14:01] <zongo> Hi, I have installed smb on my ubuntu box to share files with my vista box through virtual box. It worked  once but now I get the error "netzork access not find"
[14:01] <zongo> on my vista box
[14:01] <uzu-cat> does anybody know what is what i have to install to make a bluray player works?
[14:01] <tacantara> #ubuntu-meeting
[14:01] <kinja-sheep> uzu-cat: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/BluRayAndHDDVD
[14:02] <backslash7> Anyone?
[14:02] <uzu-cat> thanks! ;)
[14:03] <BluesKaj> 'morning folks
[14:03] <Out`Of`Control> Ubuntu Rulzz
[14:03] <rob0917> If  Windows 7 and Ubuntu cost the same what features of Ubuntu would help me choose Ubuntu over Windows 7 ?
[14:03] <disappearedng> anyone familiar with how I can set azureus to be a particular user and then when it download and create files using that user account
[14:04] <minimec> rob0917: freedom! You cannot pay that... ;)
[14:04] <Paultje66> Hello all, does anyone maybe know how to remove a program from autostart? I added xbmc to the autostart but know my screen is blank. so i need to change some config file to remove the auto start. I can press ctrl + alt + f2 but then what?
[14:05] <uzu-cat> kinja-sheep, but i think that i have to install the driver of the bluray player
[14:05] <trevski> Paulje66: I use ubuntu tweak
[14:06] <kinja-sheep> uzu-cat: http://bluraysucks.com/
[14:06] <Paultje66> ok thanx alott
[14:06] <uzu-cat> xD
[14:08] <pichudo> hi there
[14:08] <surf> hi I have a problem with wi-fi disconnection. Someone told me it was an antheros driver problem so I need to add a patch or something. How can I do it? any idea?
[14:09] <pichudo> anyone here??
[14:09] <kinja-sheep> surf: "lshw -c network" -- Paste that into http://pastebin.com/
[14:09] <Ari_Lazarus> hi guys
[14:09] <Ari_Lazarus> I have a question... how come my symlink isn't working? :(
[14:11] <surf> kinja-sheep, http://pastebin.com/d2a6c70b2
[14:13] <kinja-sheep> surf: Sorry. I'm here now.
[14:13] <kinja-sheep> surf: Karmic?
[14:14] <surf> yes
[14:15] <Izyum97> Hello, happy Ubuntu users!
[14:15] <onetinsoldier> hi
[14:16] <oCean_> surf: I also have a AR928X Wireless Network Adapter - no problems disconnecting after firmware upgrade of my router (zyxel)
[14:16] <Izyum97> onetinsoldier: How are you?
[14:16] <kinja-sheep> surf: Sorry. Sidetracked again. You want to install linux-backports-modules-karmic
[14:16] <natrixnatrix89> I cant remove a packege http://paste.ubuntu.com/358051/ .. Can anyone help me please?
[14:16] <surf> kinja-sheep, I think I did it
[14:17] <kinja-sheep> surf: "aptitude search linux-backports-modules-karmic"
[14:17] <kinja-sheep> surf: If it is installed, you'll see 'i'
[14:17] <onetinsoldier> Izyum97: good thanks. how are you? :-)
[14:17] <_iTroll> hello guys, karmic user here.  is there a convenient method for me to compile newer version of a driver? (ath5k wireless)
[14:18] <Izyum97> onetinsoldier: So-so... I have disk of Ubuntu, but my CD-drive's broken.
[14:18] <surf> kinja-sheep,  I see p   linux-backports-modules-karmic  - Generic Linux backported drivers.
[14:18] <kinja-sheep> surf: Not installed. Booyah! Install it right away. Reboot.
[14:18] <ouyes> _iTroll,  what you mean convenient? how convenient do you need?
[14:18] <abhi_> All my 3d games were working fine. But then I mess up with SDL library files. I want to install Excalibur: Morgana’s Revenge v3.0. But it is not installing by itself. I got info in their README that i should first install and set SDL libraries. so from their web site i downloaded source package and install it. after that no 3d game is starting including, wideland,torcs, Balazar,Battle for Wasnoth. Someone should diagnos the problem
[14:18] <abhi_>  with SDL libraries. let me know if anyone of u have some sort of solution or workaround. Is there any other way to get all these games working? (e.g. reinstalling game or something like that???)
[14:18] <onetinsoldier> Izyum97: bummer. are you wanting to install? how about using usb stick method to install?
[14:18] <kinja-sheep> surf: And you should be done... theoretically!
[14:19] <Izyum97> onetinsoldier: I haven't ISO. :(
[14:19] <surf> kinja-sheep, ok thx mate. I'm doing it right now. Hopefully