[00:00] <traskers> I've got Conky set up more or less how I want it, but I have two issues. One, when I run it, (alt+f2) it opens a terminal for itself as well. Two, at the end of my conky display a little box (like [] but an actual character) shows up..
[00:00] <leccy> YankDownUnder, yeah we were just discussing the nuances of chmod :)
[00:00] <TYDIRocks> edbian, alright I'll talk to HP
[00:00] <sude> Skype got crashed. I killed the process and it is creating another process. How to kill it completely?
[00:00] <profiled> sudo shutdown 0
[00:00] <profiled> :D
[00:00] <traskers> sude, can you run 'killall skype' ?
[00:01] <edbian> TYDIRocks: I think that your bios is set incorrectly.  Sometimes there is a setting to move onto the next device if no OS is found.  If this is off then when the bios gets to a device that does not have an OS it will display the no OS message instead of going on to the next device
[00:01] <Polah> munzx: Run the who command, it'll show you who's currently online. Probably you, root and some daemon
[00:01] <leccy> sude or pkill skype
[00:01] <TYDIRocks> edbian, but I have CD/DVD as the first so
[00:01] <luigi> leccy: You know file perms are not the only thing that files have as metadata, right? You should look into file properties/modes.
[00:01] <nuborn> urlin2u: Thanks, yes, the lower right corner is often a solution. By adjusting the mouse, do you mean something like slower speed/movement?
[00:01] <edbian> TYDIRocks: ahh, good point
[00:02] <edbian> TYDIRocks: Perhaps the bios does not support booting from a DVD (is this an older machine?)
[00:02] <urlin2u> nuborn, depends you have to mess with the contols.
[00:02] <luigi> leccy: Like +i, for instance. You can ruin someone's system without touching chmod once.
[00:02] <sude> traskers it is not working
[00:02] <urlin2u> contro;s*
[00:02] <sude> leccy it is not working
[00:02] <urlin2u> close
[00:02] <edbian> TYDIRocks: If you talk to HP btw, I suggest you tell the you're trying to boot a window CD (effectively the same thing).  They're likely to say 'we don't support linux'
[00:02] <chaospsychex> i still can't copy files to the directory
[00:02] <TYDIRocks> edbian, not entirely sure, I'm using a compaq v3100
[00:02] <chaospsychex> whats the command to elevate me to sudo
[00:03] <greggg> When capturing audio input through the rear mic, sound is very low and muffled--if I tap on my microphone I hear barely-audible thud-thud-thud's. I checked in alsamixer that the rear mic is not muted, and set the rear mic boost to 100%. Any ideas on how to go about getting the rear mic to work properly? I'm running Natty.
[00:03] <nuborn> urlin2u: Ok, thanks, Ill try to check it out
[00:03] <leccy> luigi, but is +i a chmod flag? I thought for setting permissions, chmod and r,w or x were all you needed
[00:03] <edbian> TYDIRocks: It's not that old
[00:03] <luigi> leccy: I'm not talking about file permissions. I'm talking about file properties and modes.
[00:03] <edbian> TYDIRocks: All signs point to bios boot order being incorrect.
[00:04] <luigi> leccy: I mean, attributes
[00:04] <TYDIRocks> edbian, alright. I think I'll start off asking if they support linux. Then I can decide to lie xD
[00:04] <chaospsychex> can someone help me set up a ftp server? like walk me through it
[00:04] <chaospsychex> im having all kinds of problems
[00:04] <edbian> TYDIRocks: good luck! :D
[00:04] <luigi> leccy: man chattr
[00:05] <TYDIRocks>  edbian, thanks
[00:05] <Polah> chaospsychex: Sure, though there's a lot of FTP servers out there, I'd recommend vsftpd though.
[00:05] <leccy> luigi, ok
[00:05] <edbian> TYDIRocks: sure
[00:05] <Polah> chaospsychex, of course, if you have openssh-server installed that allows access via SFTP so you don't need to install second insecure FTP server
[00:05] <luigi> leccy: For instance 'chattr -R +i /' will RUIN A SYSTEM. So DON'T RUN IT, but feel free to learn from it.
[00:06] <C_Smith> hey, I'm trying to transfer videos to my Ipod nano 5g and I keep getting the error "the m4v format is not supported by the device, and no convertor was found" even after installing ffmpeg, what converter would Banshee use for videos on Ipod Nano 5gs?
[00:06] <Josesordo> hello all, what is the name of the protocol you can use webcam and audio in pidgin?
[00:06] <luigi> Josesordo: PulseAudio?
[00:06] <luigi> No, that's not it at all.
[00:06] <sude> Skype got crashed. I killed the process and it is creating another process. How to kill it completely?  Details:http://pastebin.com/mSETwZAB
[00:06] <leccy> luigi, how can you view attributes? is there an ls flag?
[00:07] <Josesordo> luigi, no.. is a protocol like MSN but not private..xD
[00:07] <luigi> Josesordo: I don't know of a public one, sorry.
[00:07] <matryx> hi, can someone help me setup a network share so I can grab files from my WinXP PC
[00:08] <tabakhase> my grub autogenerated win7 dosnt work... http://nopaste.php-quake.net/54948
[00:08] <chaospsychex> Polah: im trying to set up vsftp right now
[00:08] <luigi> leccy: Why don't you look it up instead of me doing your work?
[00:08] <sude> Skype got crashed. I killed the process and it is creating another process. How to kill it completely?  Details:http://pastebin.com/mSETwZAB
[00:08] <Polah> chaospsychex: Got it installed?
[00:09] <Costanza> meh tinycore is not good for making dd of mbr
[00:09] <chaospsychex> yeah
[00:09] <chaospsychex> im trying to put files into 'srv/ftp'
[00:09] <luigi> sude: killall skype
[00:09] <C_Smith> sude, just post the problem/question once, and someone will get to you, just be patient, as they're all volunteers.
[00:09] <urlin2u> Costanza, why are you dd the mbr?
[00:09] <tabakhase> seems like windows killed my swap...
[00:10] <munzxttt> hi! everybody .... when i run "uptime" in terminal i get 3 user despite i am the only user in the system! ..... does that mean there is an intrusion!!??
[00:10] <luigi> Costanza: Why not just use Clonezilla for full disk backups?
[00:10] <Costanza> i have an usb stick with an efi / duet /ed2 mbr and bootsector (pbr)
[00:10] <anth0ny> I have two bash .sh files in a directory that are almost exactly the same (they're files to start applications on startup after a "sleep" time, three lines, one has "exec thunderbird", the other has "exec xchat --minimize=2").  When viewing the folder in terminal, the thunderbird script appears green (executable) and the xchat script is white (standard).  Subsequently, the thunderbird script works on startup but the other (xchat) does
[00:10] <anth0ny> n't.  Any ideas as to why?
[00:10] <sude> luigi : did that. It is not working.
[00:10] <Costanza> im not doing it for myself i will upload it so others can restore it to their stick
[00:10] <leccy> luigi, no need to get smart with me. it's lsattr. I was only chatting. what is it with geeks and their 'i know more than you' egos? g'night.
[00:11] <luigi> leccy: I didn't know it, I didn't feel like looking it up...
[00:11] <luigi> >_>
[00:11] <iceroot> anth0ny: why not making it executable?
[00:11] <anth0ny> iceroot, how do you go about doing that?
[00:11] <iceroot> anth0ny: chmod +x filename
[00:12] <magpii> fresh ubuntu install. how do i clear the desktop environment config files?
[00:12] <luigi> sude: I'm not sure then. You could try ps ax | grep skype and seeing what processes it's spawning, then 'sudo kill -SIGTERM $pid' where $pid is the numeric pid of the process.
[00:12] <anth0ny> iceroot, thanks, trying now.
[00:12] <C_Smith> wow. leccy was the one with the bad attitude.
[00:12] <Gentoo64> magpii, on a fresh install?
[00:12] <munzxttt> plz! can anybody help me here?!
[00:12] <munzxttt> hi! everybody .... when i run "uptime" in terminal i get 3 user despite i am the only user in the system! ..... does that mean there is an intrusion!!??
[00:12] <C_Smith> just so I know, has anyone seen my question?
[00:12] <edbian> munzxttt: Do you have more than one terminal open?
[00:12] <edbian> munzxttt: each one is a user
[00:12] <munzxttt> no!
[00:13] <magpii> Gentoo64: indeed. after username and password input, the desktop loads, then mouse and keyboard become unresponsive
[00:13] <anth0ny> munzxttt, yeah, I get two... interesting.
[00:13] <Gentoo64> magpii, are they both usb?
[00:13] <kijutsu> I'm working with KVM and Qemu in an attempt to create virtual machines.  Is it possible to make a virtual machine access a physical drive on the host machine?
[00:13] <TrD> hi all, waths is the iptables rules to allow others PC visiting my website on my machine
[00:13] <illovae> munzxttt: that's normal
[00:13] <TrD> i use apache
[00:14] <magpii> Gentoo64:  my mouse is wireless and my keybaord is oldsckool round pin connection
[00:14] <illovae> munzxttt: see the results of the "who" command in a term
[00:14] <luigi> munzxttt: Linux is by design a multi user environment. Just on my system I have my user, isaac, the user who started the first process, init, and many other users that are running programs in the background for me.
[00:14] <magpii> Gentoo64:  the mouse is still responsive when moving around the screen but buttons are not
[00:15] <C_Smith> so, I'll simplify my message: what converter does Banshee use for videos for Ipod naon 5th Gen?
[00:15] <luigi> munzxttt: Unless you're logged in as root (a bad idea, graphically) you are guaranteed to have at least two users running.
[00:15] <illovae> munzxttt: in a default config you have at least two users, you in the tty and you in the X session
[00:15] <munzxttt> edbian : sorry! :) u r right ... i had two terminal open ... but i still have 2 users ... is it like me (user) and root?!!
[00:15] <Troy^> magpii, are you using a laptop?
[00:15] <luigi> C_Smith: Probably some implementation of x264 for video, and faac for audio.
[00:15] <milamber> munzxttt: see what users are logged in by running the command: who
[00:15] <C_Smith> so, what package(s) would I install?
[00:16] <edbian> munzxttt: Probably because sudo hasn't worn off yet.
[00:16] <magpii> Troy^: this is on a laptop but the pc with the issue is not
[00:16] <C_Smith> I'm okay with installing via command line
[00:16] <luigi> C_Smith: ubuntu-restricted-extras usually does the trick.
[00:16] <ylluminate> is there an fseventer based on inotify for linux that is either textual or graphical?
[00:16] <C_Smith> hmmmmm, I believe that's installed
[00:16] <munzxttt> edbian : sorry! i am new to linux! ... what did u mean by "not worn yet"?
[00:17] <Gentoo64> munzxttt, do sudo -k
[00:17] <Gentoo64> thatll reset the timer
[00:17] <munzxttt> milamber : i get my name twice!!!
[00:17] <C_Smith> yeah, they're installed already
[00:17] <C_Smith> and I still get the error
[00:17] <luigi> C_Smith: Look for ffmpeg as well. That might be used for the video blitter. I'm not good with banshee with video, so I can't help much past that.
[00:17] <milamber> munzxttt: if you have a terminal open you will get that
[00:17] <edbian> munzxttt: When you do 'sudo something' then it caches your password.  For about 15 minutes.  If you sudo again for 15 minutes you will not be asked your password.  I think this is causing root to show up.
[00:17] <edbian> munzxttt: make sense?
[00:17] <luigi> edbian: Root is always logged in.
[00:17] <luigi> No?
[00:18] <luigi> Otherwise init would die.
[00:18] <C_Smith> ffmpeg was installed earlier trying to figure this out myself
[00:18] <milamber> luigi: not logged in, but still owns processes
[00:18] <edbian> luigi: He is not logged in all the time.
[00:18] <edbian> luigi: check out who on your system right now
[00:18] <luigi> milamber: Yes, but it would show it as logged with uptime yes?
[00:19] <luigi> edbian: I'm on an arch linux install, and I have three users.
[00:19] <munzxttt> edbian : i ran "sudo su" but still!!! ... is it normal!!
[00:19] <milamber> luigi: shouldn't show up (in ubuntu)
[00:19] <edbian> luigi: hahah
[00:19] <luigi> s/(.*)\.$/\1 running currently.
[00:19] <edbian> munzxttt: what?  sudo su would log you in as root
[00:19] <luigi> milamber: Interesting.
[00:20] <Gentoo64> afaik you cant login as root on ubuntu, by default
[00:20] <Gentoo64> without setting root passwd
[00:20] <magpii> can somebody please give me the link to a stable current version of ubuntu as the one that i have installed over my windows os on my pc is seriously screwing with my calm
[00:20] <munzxttt> edbian : yea! i thought if i log in as root it will show only 1 user!
[00:20] <Gentoo64> magpii, 11.04 is current stable
[00:20] <Gentoo64> magpii, 10.04 is lts
[00:21] <Gentoo64> magpii, imo 10.10 is the best ubuntu
[00:21] <magpii> it just opened up 0on its own, the dvd that was in the drive and then spammed the screen with 8 dir dialogue windows
[00:21] <dctuser> how can i solve the problem of unsolved dependencies in ubuntu? what ever i try to install, cannot be installed
[00:21] <milamber> munzxttt: if you want more information about the users, run the command: w
[00:21] <edbian> munzxttt: It would show root...  It will show at least two users if you're using a GUI one for the gui and one for the bash shell you're using to run who or uptime or whatever
[00:21] <luigi> milamber: Ah, my two users are both myself. w is a good command to remember.
[00:21] <nuborn> Oh, I opened 10 terminal windows and typed "who", and first now did I realize why theres multiple users logged in.
[00:21] <magpii> 11.04 is the one that just wrecked 3 years of uni work and sent my calm through levels of chaos previously unrecorded
[00:22] <nuborn> (didnt before)
[00:22] <munzxttt> edbian : malamber : thanks ! :) i think i got it now! :) cheers!
[00:22] <Gentoo64> magpii, try 10.10
[00:22] <Gentoo64> it hasnt got as many problems
[00:22] <edbian> munzxttt: sure
[00:22] <luigi> magpii: You are the one who installed it without a backup.  Always back up what you have before making a major system change.
[00:22] <magpii> those responsible for releasing an os into the public domian while it is still full of bugs need to be taken out the back and seriously pionted at
[00:22] <milamber> magpii: for ultimate zen, most people try to stick with the !lts versions, currently 10.04
[00:23] <luigi> magpii: Ubuntu is free software.
[00:23] <tabakhase> :D seems like my ubuntu is using the windows as swap right now... :D
[00:23] <dctuser> how can i solve the problem of unsolved dependencies in ubuntu? what ever i try to install, cannot be installed
[00:23] <kijutsu> Not to mention the fact that ... windows isn't exactly 'bug free' either.
[00:23] <Gentoo64> magpii, but windows and all other distors / os have bugs
[00:23] <munzxttt> edbian : what i got "it's ok" ... that's enough for me! :) lolz thanks again!
[00:23] <edbian> munzxttt: sure :)
[00:23] <lion42> magpii, you do realize your OS would not exist, and would not be as good as it is, were it not for public creation and public involvement? O.o
[00:23] <milamber> dctuser: if you are getting the error for more than one package, it is probable that a mysterious *something* is wrong with the package manager. can you pastebin the output of what you are trying to do?
[00:23] <luigi> magpii: "This Free software has bugs?
[00:24] <StevenR> magpii: software isn't perfect. No software, beyond "hello world" is bug free.
[00:24] <magpii> forget it, its my fault for trusting in the hype, its my mistake, thanks for the help anyway
[00:24] <lion42> ...
[00:24] <Gentoo64> magpii, why be like that?
[00:24] <milamber> munzxttt: np
[00:24] <lion42> rofl, that's the fakest non-apology I've ever seen.
[00:24] <kijutsu> heh
[00:24] <zabomber> magpii: what would i hack if it wasn't buggy?
[00:24] <Gentoo64> yay
[00:24] <kijutsu> what the heck was that? :P
[00:24] <macintosh> he quited
[00:24] <Gentoo64> 1 less linux user
[00:24] <luigi> StevenR: My brainfuck program that prints "hello world" segfaulted. :P
[00:24] <lion42> kijutsu, whiners on the IRCs.
[00:24] <kijutsu> lion42: apparently :)
[00:25] <lion42> shocking rite.
[00:25] <kijutsu> "I WANT BUGFREE SOFTWARE>. WHINEWHINEWHINE."  Keeeep dreamin friend. :P
[00:25] <zabomber> he's probably an old 45yr father who "used" to be lee7 in his day
[00:25] <zabomber> windows 3.5.1
[00:25] <zabomber> whoohoo
[00:25] <rww> moving on.
[00:25] <kijutsu> moving on indeed
[00:25] <StevenR> luigi: maybe that's the desired output ;)
[00:25] <macintosh> I am a new Ubuntu user
[00:25] <dctuser> i can copy and paste it but it is not in english
[00:25] <macintosh> :D
[00:25] <dctuser> well i am trying sudo apt-get python-matplotlib
[00:25] <kijutsu> Dumb question of the evening:  How do I mount a physical disk under KVM without breaking everything?
[00:25] <luigi> dctuser: And what happens?
[00:26] <dctuser> and it says that it depends on python-all but cannot be installed
[00:26] <dctuser> it depends on python2.6dbg and cannot be installed
[00:26] <dctuser> etc etc
[00:26] <milamber> dctuser: is the error in english?
[00:26] <dctuser> nope
[00:26] <luigi> kijutsu: Don't have the host OS perform any I/O on its own.
[00:26] <luigi> kijutsu: Leave the disk and its partitions unmounted, then just run the vm on it
[00:26] <StevenR> kijutsu: can you be more precise about what you want to do ?
[00:26] <milamber> dctuser: what version of ubuntu?
[00:27] <luigi> kijutsu: I've once booted a system inside itself and only had minor hangups. Be safe, and you'll be okay most of the time.
[00:27] <dctuser> "the following packages have those unsolved dependences " ,........... "The build dependencies of python-matplotlib are not satisfied"
[00:27] <dctuser> just in this case the dependencies are relevant to ubuntu
[00:27] <kijutsu> StevenR: I'm building a Windows XP virtual machine to create an audio server via shoutcast.  I would like this virtual machine to read the mp3s i have on a physical ext3 drive on the host machine.
[00:27] <dctuser> to python
[00:27] <dctuser> no ubuntu , but even if i try to install flash, there is problem
[00:28] <macintosh> are there any one here know how to mod WD sharespace OS?
[00:28] <StevenR> kijutsu: ok, then use samba to share them. Windows XP won't read them on it's own if it's ext3.
[00:28] <anth0ny> is there any way for me to downgrade from 11.04 to 10.04 LTS while maintaining all of my system files and settings?
[00:28] <rww> !downgrade
[00:28] <WaltherFI> nope, iirc
[00:28] <luigi> kijutsu: Install some guest extensions in the guest system, and share your dirs from the host system.
[00:28] <luigi> That's another idea.
[00:28] <luigi> s/idea/option
[00:28] <milamber> dctuser: like i said, it's probable there is something going on with the package manager, try: sudo apt-get clean
[00:28] <kijutsu> StevenR: Doh.. I was hoping KVM had a middle-man software to convert to NTFS/Fat32 on the fly.
[00:28] <bazhang> anth0ny, full reinstall
[00:28] <anth0ny> ubottu, this is good to know...
[00:29] <bazhang> macintosh, please be clear cannot understand what you mean
[00:29] <dctuser> and then ? after clean?
[00:29] <luigi> kijutsu: You could try using VirtualBox. It's a little bloated, but its guest extensions are wonderful.
[00:29] <kijutsu> StevenR: guess Samba is the answer -- I just hope the loopback network interface doesn't cause issues for streaming audio.
[00:29] <bazhang> macintosh, what is mod WD sharespace OS
[00:29] <macintosh> I have a WD sharespace NAS box and I want to mod it
[00:29] <milamber> dctuser: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[00:29] <StevenR> kijutsu: nope, samba is your way here... or get an icecast/shoutcast server for ubuntu?
[00:30] <bazhang> macintosh, how is that related to ubuntu support
[00:30] <kijutsu> StevenR: the shoutcast/icecast servers I found are.. unimpressive.
[00:30] <macintosh> some one told me to come here to ask how to mod in order to increase its speed
[00:30] <dctuser> ok
[00:30] <bazhang> macintosh, sounds like hardware
[00:30] <macintosh> its built in linux OS
[00:30] <macintosh> yes it is
[00:30] <kijutsu> StevenR: Thanks though. guess I'll have to go dig into some samba manuals and figure out how the heck to make that fly right.
[00:30] <bazhang> ##hardware macintosh
[00:31] <Guest18467> hi
[00:31] <anth0ny> so, what's considered the best backup utility for Ubuntu?  I loved using Mac's Time Machine, anything like that?  Bonus points if it'd backup my Windows partition as well.
[00:31] <bazhang> !sbackup > anth0ny
[00:31] <luigi> anth0ny: Graphically, I use dejadup
[00:31] <macintosh> do you have any recommend for me to increase it speed bazhang
[00:31] <bazhang> macintosh, its offtopic here, please dont ask.
[00:31] <dctuser> with the update it tells me to use apt-get -f install
[00:31] <dctuser> because of some independencies
[00:31] <luigi> macintosh: Why not ask in ##linux or ##hardware?
[00:32] <dctuser> of python2.6 minimal
[00:32] <anth0ny> ubottu, are you a bot?
[00:32] <milamber> dctuser: -f means force the install, which would be the next option
[00:32] <luigi> Is ubottu a supybot?
[00:32] <rww> luigi: yes
[00:33] <luigi> rww: Thanks.
[00:33] <kijutsu> StevenR: while we're on the subject -- do you have any recommendations to create samba shares with a mimimum of hassle?
[00:33] <dctuser> python2.6 L Depends from python2.6-minimal (=2.6.6-6 ubuntu7)
[00:33] <dctuser> which is not install
[00:33] <StevenR> kijutsu: you might look at SAT
[00:33] <StevenR> *SWAT
[00:33] <Cradam> hi does anyone know the command to start the taskbar type thing?
[00:34] <kijutsu> StevenR: I did try that under PPC and it damn near took out the system.  Is it stabler under x86/x86_64?
[00:34] <zykotick9> Cradam, gnome-panel if you are using classic
[00:34] <Cradam> thanks
[00:35] <ActionParsnip> !panel | Cradam
[00:35] <StevenR> kijutsu: not sure... I've always just used the manpage and vim to edit samba configs.
[00:35] <ActionParsnip> !panels | Cradam
[00:35] <macintosh> guys, I don't want to be fool (I am a newbie) but I would like to ask just 1 more question: could I install Ubuntu on my PowerMac G5
[00:36] <JakeR003> guys
[00:36] <dctuser> how can i install python2.6 minimal
[00:36] <JakeR003> some programs put icon near my account near at the top panel
[00:36] <JakeR003> how can i force them to show at the buttom?
[00:37] <JakeR003> bottom*
[00:37] <luigi> macintosh: Yes.
[00:37] <Cradam> ActionParsnip: the problem was that after i upgraded to 11.04 the top panel disspeared after the second reboot
[00:37] <zykotick9> dctuser, did you try "sudo apt-get install python2.6-minimal"
[00:37] <urlin2u> JakeR003, classic desktop?
[00:37] <JakeR003> gnome 2
[00:37] <JakeR003> ubuntu 11.04
[00:37] <JakeR003> same desktop that came with it.. i never changed anything on it
[00:38] <urlin2u> JakeR003, that is the notification area in the top
[00:38] <macintosh> which version could I use, luigi?
[00:38] <JakeR003> urlin2u yeah it's kind of annoying because the icons show behind the power icon
[00:38] <Cradam> is their a command i need to do to make it start on login?
[00:38] <JakeR003> for shutdown and restarts
[00:39] <JakeR003> so it confuse me
[00:39] <luigi> macintosh: Any powerpc install.
[00:39] <rww> !ppc | macintosh
[00:39] <urlin2u> JakeR003, try killall gnome-panel to see if the panel is correct
[00:39] <JakeR003> urlin2u now they always show there
[00:39] <macintosh> Ok thanks you guys, I will try it now and I won't bother you anymore
[00:40] <urlin2u> JakeR003, you can add the notifaction to the bottom with add to panel.
[00:40] <dctuser> it says it cannot process /var/cache/apt/archives/python2.60mminimal ....
[00:40] <dctuser> sub-process /usr/bun/dpkg returned an error
[00:40] <JakeR003> urlin2u what do i choose?
[00:41] <JakeR003> ad panel then what
[00:41] <urlin2u> JakeR003, notification area
[00:43] <anth0ny> what's a quick way to set up an automount system to have my partitions/other HDDs accessible on startup?
[00:44] <bazhang> anth0ny, add them to fstab you mean?
[00:44] <jrib> !fstab | anth0ny
[00:45] <KM0201> anth0ny: the only way is, fstab.. if you want a GUI.... there's a utility that does
[00:45] <Costanza> i give up.. cant make the mbr pbr thing to work after i restore it with dd, the only thing that worked was using win32diskimager in windows but it made an 4gb.img file :/
[00:46] <Costanza> so it does not want to backup 512 byes properly or something
[00:46] <anth0ny> bazhang, jrib, KM0201, ubottu : thank you gentlemen/ladies
[00:46] <Costanza> but the whole backup 4gb worked, so i wonder if this needs something dffferent
[00:47] <bazhang> anth0ny, one of us is a bot
[00:47] <KM0201> anth0ny: it's called pysdm   it's in the repositories (again, really only needed if you don't want to edit fstab manually)
[00:47] <luigi> Costanza: Clonezilla is exactly the program I think you need, but you haven't responded to me at all.
[00:47] <Costanza> i dont need to backup my hdd, only the bootsector of the usb stick
[00:47] <Costanza> and clonezilla does not create .img files i can restore with dd, aint it
[00:47] <DasEi> Costanza: then use dd
[00:47] <DasEi> ah, got it already
[00:48] <anth0ny> bazhang, well, maybe ubottu was feeling unappreciated
[00:48] <Costanza> i used dd but when i restore the bootscore and mbr the pc complains, not system disk
[00:48] <luigi> Costanza: Clonezilla makes img files that are compressed however you want, buddy.
[00:49] <Gentoo64> Costanza, why do you only want to backup the boot sector btw?
[00:49] <Costanza> because i need it to restore to other sticks
[00:49] <shinsuke> was the flash player bug that caused almost 100% cpu workload patched a few days ago?
[00:49] <Costanza> can i make an partition 10 gb and backup using whole disk dd backup or would that backup the unallocated space?
[00:50] <ActionParsnip> shinsuke: 32bit flash or 64bit flash?
[00:50] <Costanza> 10mb*
[00:50] <q_a_z_steve> how do I invoke 11.04's toram correctly? Assuming my system will boot the CD I'm burning...
[00:50] <bazhang> shinsuke, not sure, but there was a flash security upgrade just today
[00:50] <Gentoo64> Costanza, http://www.experts-exchange.com/OS/Linux/Q_21601291.html
[00:50] <ActionParsnip> Costanza: it will backup the space too. partmage may work
[00:50] <Gentoo64> ?
[00:50] <luigi> Costanza: If you use clonezilla or pipe dd to a compression program it will compress the empty space.
[00:50] <shinsuke> ActionParsnip, 32bit
[00:50] <Costanza> i will try, thx
[00:50] <ActionParsnip> shinsuke: gotcha, not had a flash update knowingly
[00:52] <Costanza> oh it says dd if=backup.boot of=/dev/hda bs=1 but i used dd if=backup.boot of=dev/hda  bs=512 count=1
[00:52] <Costanza> to restore
[00:52] <Dogget> Having issues installing the right drivers for my Brother MFC-J265W printer. Any help more than welcome
[00:53] <bazhang> Dogget, what does linuxprinting.org say the correct drivers are
[00:53] <q_a_z_steve> ActionParsnip: Have you ever loaded natty toram?
[00:53] <bazhang> Dogget, from their database of printers list
[00:54] <ActionParsnip> q_a_z_steve: not personally
[00:54] <ActionParsnip> Dogget: brother make linux drivers
[00:54] <shinsuke> is it possible to install ubuntu on an android and kick android?
[00:54] <ActionParsnip> Dogget: did you check their website?
[00:54] <Dogget> Well you can get the right printers from Brother site directly but I am confused as what to do guys!
[00:54] <q_a_z_steve> I read that it was a functioning option, so I assume I would just enter toram in the custom boot options line???
[00:54] <ActionParsnip> shinsuke: I've seen someone run a premade linux and VNC to localhost
[00:55] <luigi> q_a_z_steve: toram will indeed boot to ram.
[00:55] <ActionParsnip> Dogget: give me a sec and I'll make you a commad
[00:55] <Dogget> Thank you very much guys
[00:55] <Dogget> This is the site: http://welcome.solutions.brother.com/bsc/public_s/id/linux/en/download_prn.html#MFC-J265W
[00:56] <q_a_z_steve> luigi: hopefully I can boot into 11.04 at all. I can get into 10.10 just fine livecd, but haven't had any luck with the amd64+mac atm.
[00:56] <Gentoo64> Dogget, i think you want the lpr .deb
[00:57] <Dogget> I am running Ubuntu  64
[00:57] <miktor> Problem: I'm trying to mount my music folder from windows with fstab, but fstab won't recognise backslash and a space as a space in the path. Here's my fstab file http://pastie.org/2368281
[00:57] <ActionParsnip> Dogget: what is the output of:  uname -m
[00:57] <Dogget> hold on Action
[00:57] <ActionParsnip> Gentoo64: brother make sweet linux drivers
[00:57] <V13Axel> I have an odd problem. When I turn my laptop on while it's plugged up, there are no issues. Themes and fonts load properly, everything is fine. However, if I unplug the laptop and log-in, I get an odd problem. My theme becomes broken for a moment, I get the default GNOME icons and menus. Any ideas?
[00:57] <Gentoo64> miktor, try ""
[00:57] <Dogget> it says x86-64 Action
[00:57] <Gentoo64> and spaces
[00:58] <ActionParsnip> Dogget: hmm, ok
[00:58] <auvajs> hello I wanna use the sort program. I wanna sort it numerically according to second column and later according to third columb but riversely... didn't figured how to write the script thougH:)
[00:58] <mrdeb> this happens V13Axel
[00:58] <miktor> Alright, i will Geentoo64. Will return in a moment if it does not work
[00:59] <ActionParsnip> Dogget: http://myubuntux.files.wordpress.com/2011/02/synaptic-brother-driver.png
[00:59] <ActionParsnip> Dogget: may be in software centre
[00:59] <V13Axel> mrdeb: So there's no fix for it? It's reliably every time I login and the laptop is unplugged, the theme breaks. If it's plugged up, the problem never occurs.
[00:59] <newbiee> hello
[01:00] <V13Axel> mrdeb: So there's no fix for it? It's reliably every time I login and the laptop is unplugged, the theme breaks. If it's plugged up, the problem never occurs.
[01:00] <newbiee> can anyone tell me what i can do with a vpn network
[01:00] <raevol> hi all, i am trying to see my dad's computer using vinagre
[01:00] <V13Axel> Oops, accident.
[01:00] <raevol> i can ssh into his box, but how do i get him running a vnc server so that i can actually see his screen?
[01:00] <mrdeb> i neve rnotriced that its with power plugged in
[01:00] <Dogget> The link I gave in was specifically for my printer Action
[01:00] <mrdeb> but i have seen that happen
[01:01] <dimas_> is there any software i can record a voice confernece?
[01:01] <V13Axel> mrdeb: It's only one one specific laptop. My other two work fine, and I was planning on selling this one, so I have to get this fixed.
[01:01] <ActionParsnip> Dogget: may help http://pastebin.com/mhPf7Fb8
[01:01] <defectz> Hello all, how do i check what my ipv4 address is?
[01:01] <defectz> Hello all, how do i check what my ipv4 address is with ubuntu
[01:01] <ActionParsnip> Dogget: its a generic package of drivers, it may contain the one you own
[01:02] <newbiee> defectz: i belive "ifconfig"
[01:02] <Gentoo64> defectz, <IP_ADDRESS>
[01:02] <luigi> defectz: try whatismyip.com for your global IP, if that's what you're after.
[01:02] <dimas_> defectz even easier just on top right you have connection properties and there you see your ip
[01:02] <Dogget> Ok Action what is the command you want me to type friend?
[01:03] <defectz> Gentoo, luigi i need the network ip for port forwarding
[01:03] <Gentoo64> defectz, ifconfig
[01:03] <luigi> defectz: ifconfig will tell you this.
[01:03] <Gentoo64> will tell you local address
[01:03] <V13Axel> defectz: You can use ifconfig, or you can right-click the network manager on the GNOME-panel and click "Edit connections" you'll find it under the specific connection you're wanting to find it out for.
[01:03] <miktor> Gentoo64: that did not work
[01:03] <Gentoo64> miktor, can you paste fstab again?
[01:03] <ActionParsnip> defectz: curl -s checkip.dyndns.org | grep -Eo '[0-9\.]+'
[01:03] <newbiee> i am wondering if i can use the other side server's ip addresses at on my server at home with a vpn network
[01:03] <miktor> Gentoo64: http://pastie.org/2368281
[01:04] <ActionParsnip> Dogget: use software center to check if your printer is supported by the packages in the repos
[01:04] <ActionParsnip> defectz: or to save installing curl:   wget -q -O - whatismyip.org; echo
[01:04] <Dogget> I am there Action, but not sure which one to pick!
[01:05] <Dogget> Not sure about cups/lpr drivers
[01:05] <luigi> miktor: You're missing options for your ntfs mounts.
[01:05] <ActionParsnip> Dogget: read the descriptions
[01:05] <Dogget> it doesn't say much when I click on them Action
[01:07] <Dogget> Just going through the list
[01:07] <miktor> luigi: oh, what options? the windows one works anyway.
[01:07] <ActionParsnip> Dogget: ok then you may need the url I gave in the pastebin, just use the deb files listed instead (Those are from the brother site)
[01:07] <marezz> Hi everyone, how can I disable visual effects in ubuntu 11.04 classic? They seem to lag my videos...
[01:07] <luigi> miktor: Try '/dev/sda5 /media/backup vfat defaults 0 3'
[01:08] <a_p3rson> how do i update the clamav antivirus engine?
[01:08] <Costanza> i will try with  dd if=/dev/xxx of=/home/sam/MBRboot.image bs=512 count=2
[01:08] <Polah> costanza: What are you trying to do?
[01:08] <luigi> a_p3rson: You can do it from the clamav client.
[01:08] <dimas_> when you use vpn in buntu and try connect remote desktop then it will give a warning to the other computer?
[01:08] <Costanza> it seems to only have backed up the mbr, but when i restore it the windows boot loader is still on the usb so dd did not bacup the EFI bootloader
[01:08] <_Shai> Someone can helpme installing gnome 3 in my ubuntu 11.04
[01:08] <_Shai> ?
[01:08] <_Shai> Someone can helpme installing gnome 3 in my ubuntu 11.04?
[01:08] <miktor> luigi: okay, and what for the last line?
[01:08] <a_p3rson> luigi: how would i do that? i dont have a clamav client, but i do have clamtk
[01:09] <marezz> Hi everyone, how can I disable visual effects in ubuntu 11.04 classic? They seem to lag my videos...
[01:09] <Polah> _Shai: GNOME3 is unsupported in 11.04
[01:09] <Costanza> Polah, trying to backup an efi mbr + bootaloder located on usb
[01:09] <luigi> miktor: For the three lines that have ntfs or vfat, add the word 'defaults' before the two numbers
[01:09] <_Shai> Polah: In what OScan i run GNOME 3 ?
[01:09] <Costanza> using count=1 it backed up mbr only, not the bootsector thingy :s
[01:09] <willwh> marezz: System > Prefs > Appearance
[01:09] <Jon--> Having an issue with Ubuntu : Headphones go in headphone jack, sound continues to come out of laptop speakers.
[01:09] <Dogget> Honestly Action I am at lose here! Sorry for being a pain I just don't know where to start.
[01:10] <marezz> willwh, Its not there
[01:10] <willwh> marezz: one of those tabs lets you turn off effects
[01:10] <rww> !gnome3 | _Shai
[01:10] <Jon--> Ubuntu 11.04. ^
[01:10] <Gentoo64> _Shai, i think fedora comes with it default
[01:10] <willwh> marezz: maybe it's system > admin > appearance
[01:10] <Polah> _Shai: A handful, I don't know any specifically. GNOME3 will be supported in 11.10 when that is realeased in a couple of months
[01:10] <_Shai> Gentoo64: Okey
[01:10] <willwh> (my irssi session runs on a headless box, so I am not sure - ssh'ing from my phone atm)
[01:10] <Costanza> doing a full dd of the usb drive works when i restore it to another usb
[01:11] <marezz> willwh, its in system/pref/appearance but there is no visual effects tab there
[01:11] <a_p3rson> Luigi: how would i do that? i dont have a clamav client, but i do have clamtk
[01:11] <Costanza> but doing only mbr did not work
[01:11] <marezz> Hi everyone, how can I disable visual effects in ubuntu 11.04 classic? They seem to lag my videos...
[01:12] <willwh> marezz: I don't think you can if you are running Unity
[01:12] <luigi> a_p3rson: man clamtk. I believe it describes the process there.
[01:12] <willwh> marezz: I think you need to log in a ubuntu classic session (gnome) :)
[01:12] <marezz> willwh, Dont you read what I said? Im using Ubuntu 11.04 CLASSIC
[01:12] <willwh> marezz: no need to be rude, and apologies, I missed that
[01:13] <marezz> willwh, Im not being rude, Im just pointing out something I wrote multiple times and you failed to see :)
[01:13] <urlin2u> marezz, you can switch to metacity, for less  metacity --replace in the terminal
[01:13] <je0rJey> marezz: take your attitude somewhere else
[01:14] <Polah> marezz: Select "Ubuntu Classic (No Effects)" as a session when logging in
[01:15] <a_p3rson> luigi: man clamtk doesnt tell you how
[01:15] <luigi> a_p3rson: Alright, I will go look it up elsewhere. I'll be back in a moment.
[01:15] <miktor> luigi: that fixed my other drives, but still, i don't know how to get fstab to handle that location with spaces
[01:15] <luigi> miktor: You've tried encapsulating it in quotes?
[01:16] <miktor> both types of quotes yes
[01:16] <miktor> with and without backslashes for both
[01:16] <raevol> nevermind on my vnc problem, got it
[01:16] <marezz> urlin2u, After I did metacity --replace, I no longer see video, I can only hear audio playing
[01:16] <urlin2u> marezz, check Polah message.
[01:16] <luigi> a_p3rson: freshclam
[01:17] <luigi> a_p3rson: That's the command. Simple, no?
[01:17] <a_p3rson> luigi: doing that gives some errors, lemme pastebin it
[01:17] <urlin2u> marezz, you can run compiz --replace to get ity back logout and try the other suggestion.
[01:17] <marezz> urlin2u,  Is metacity -replace temporary? It wont stay like that next time I boot right?
[01:17] <Polah> miktor: Why do you need to mount a specific location at a separate points. If you mounted /dev/sda1 already you can just navigate down through that to get to your music folder and add a link to that in your ~/.gtk-bookmarks
[01:17] <marezz> urlin2u, Ok, thanks, will try it now
[01:18] <Dogget> @Action Sorry I really can't get through the Printer install :-(
[01:18] <a_p3rson> luigi: it needs sudo permissions correct?
[01:18] <a_p3rson> freshclam?
[01:18] <luigi> miktor: Wait a minute, that file it's mounting doesn't exist.
[01:18] <luigi> a_p3rson: I'm not sure.
[01:18] <luigi> Possibly.
[01:18] <a_p3rson> ok
[01:18] <th0r> a_p3rson: what are you trying to do?
[01:18] <luigi> miktor: What you want looks to be a symbolic link between the two directories. That's not done in fstab.
[01:19] <a_p3rson> th0r: when using clamtk, the antivirus engine is reported as out of date
[01:19] <miktor> luigi: how do i do that then?
[01:19] <luigi> miktor: man ln
[01:19] <th0r> a_p3rson: that is clam itself. I think there is an update in the repo
[01:19] <marzen> hi all, i know this is a minor issue but it's been happening for quite some time .. when I maximize a flash video it doesn't resize to my screen width, it simply pops up at the same size with a very large black border
[01:19] <marzen> anyone know how i can fix that?
[01:20] <willwh> marzen: any flash video?
[01:20] <th0r> a_p3rson: the latest is 0.97.2, and I have it here in debian. I might have picked it off the clam website, now that I think of it
[01:20] <Gentoo64> marzen, maybe its a 4:3 video
[01:20] <willwh> or is this a specific flash player on a specific website?
[01:20] <willwh> marzen: ?
[01:20] <marzen> Gentoo64: it's all videos, mostly youtube vids
[01:20] <marzen> sorry, got booted, guess floodbots didn't like my quick comments
[01:20] <th0r> a_p3rson: btw, freshclam will fetch the latest antivirus signatures, not the antivirus engine
[01:21] <HaH-Tarball> a_3person: you can update clamav engine adding this PPA: launchpad.net/~ubuntu-clamav/+archive/ppa
[01:21] <marzen> there are some that play correctly, such as vimeo ... but all youtube and most others have this issue
[01:21] <marezz> urlin2u, Polah , thanks guys, video is playing normally now! :)
[01:21] <JodaZ> anyonen knows a good program to mount a scp server on windows ?
[01:21] <a_p3rson> luigi: th0r: |      gksu freshclam      | gives this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/665367/
[01:21] <HaH-Tarball> a_3person: it will be updated to 0.97.2
[01:21] <Dogget> Anybody kind enough to help me install the drivers for my Brother MFC-J265W: http://welcome.solutions.brother.com/bsc/public_s/id/linux/en/download_prn.html#MFC-J265W
[01:22] <a_p3rson> HaH-Tarball: will try
[01:22] <a_p3rson> Dogget: i have that, you will need some files
[01:22] <Dogget> AH ok P3rson. Can you help at all?
[01:23] <Gentoo64> Dogget, have you tried downloading the deb and clicking it?
[01:23] <a_p3rson> Dogget: sure, lemme get this clamav thing figured out
[01:23] <a_p3rson> Dogget: ^^
[01:23] <willwh> Dogget: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BrotherDriverPackaging
[01:24] <Dogget> Sure P3rson, I will wait thank you :-)
[01:24] <green_top> marzen: Are you running twinview/multimonitor?
[01:24] <a_p3rson> HaH-Tarball: it asks for a apt line...i am blanking here
[01:25] <marzen> green_top: yes, 2 monitors
[01:25] <HaH-Tarball> a_p3rson: sudo apt-key adv --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com --recv-keys 5ADC2037
[01:26] <Costanza> lol now i managed to bakup the bootloader but not mbr
[01:26] <green_top> marzen: known bug I believe. I get the same issue as well.
[01:27] <a_p3rson> HaH-Tarball: is that it?
[01:27] <HaH-Tarball> You must do this command to add its APT-Key
[01:27] <marzen> green_top: odd, i've never had this issue until my latest update a couple weeks ago
[01:28] <HaH-Tarball> a_p3rson: this adds its APT key
[01:28] <HaH-Tarball> a_3person: then, this command opens sources list: sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list
[01:28] <a_p3rson> Dogget: go here: http://welcome.solutions.brother.com/bsc/public_s/id/linux/en/download_prn.html#MFC-J265W    and download the LPR and the cupswrapper files
[01:29] <green_top> marzen: for youtube, I use FlashVideoReplacer with SMPlayer as a replacement.
[01:29] <a_p3rson> then?
[01:29] <Costanza> maybe someone can take a look of this, http://tinypaste.com/b73cb if you understand how to back up both of them, thx
[01:30] <a_p3rson> HaH-Tarball: then what?
[01:30] <HaH-Tarball> a_person: add this line at the end of the file:  deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/ubuntu-clamav/ppa/ubuntu YOUR_UBUNTU_VERSION_HERE main
[01:30] <HaH-Tarball> a_3person: replace YOUR_UBUNTU_VERSION with lucid or whatever version you have
[01:30] <sedulous> i'm not sure for which package to file this bug i'm having, libopenal1 or liblwjgl-java... (liblwjgl-java searches for libopenal1.so but libopenal1 only contains libopenal.1.so.* (no symlink))
[01:31] <Dogget> rpm or deb P3rson?
[01:31] <ActionParsnip> a_p3rson: Dogget has a 64bit OS and the debs are 32bit
[01:31] <a_p3rson> HaH-Tarball: or, i could use the software sources option too
[01:31] <ActionParsnip> Dogget: I gave the debs you need
[01:31] <sedulous> the debian libopenal1 package does have the libopenal1.so symlink
[01:31] <ActionParsnip> Dogget: you may need to force install them
[01:31] <a_p3rson> ActionParsnip: Dogget: Ohhhhh
[01:31] <ActionParsnip> a_p3rson: exactly
[01:31] <Dogget> Well I donwload the dbe ones then
[01:32] <HaH-Tarball> a_p3rson: I've never tried it that way, but it may works
[01:32] <Dogget> Ok downloaded guys
[01:32] <a_p3rson> Dogget: i didnt know that you were x64, sorry but i dont think my way will work
[01:33] <a_p3rson> HaH-Tarball: yep, found 4 new updates for clamav
[01:33] <Dogget> Brother says the 32 should work too
[01:33] <HaH-Tarball> a_3person: Good. Try "sudo freshclam" after the update ;-)
[01:33] <HaH-Tarball> a_3person: sorry, upgrade
[01:33] <a_p3rson> HaH-Tarball: its listed as a post-install command, should do it automatically
[01:33] <Dogget> Man I got rid of hp because their printers were bad, canon printer died on me and I moved to Brother
[01:34] <HaH-Tarball> a_3person: Good.
[01:34] <a_p3rson> HaH-Tarball: by the way, there is only 1 three in my name: a_p3rson
[01:34] <ActionParsnip> Dogget: HP loves linux
[01:35] <HaH-Tarball> a_p3rson: Sorry for the typo.
[01:35] <Dogget> Well I have a brother Action and happy with it
[01:35] <ActionParsnip> Dogget: if you download thoses debs I listed you may be able to force install them and get it going. This is one of the reasons why 32bit is recommended
[01:35] <ActionParsnip> Dogget: oh brother is great :)
[01:35] <Dogget> Any specific command guys?
[01:35] <Dogget> Brother is your brother :-)
[01:36] <ActionParsnip> Dogget: sudo dpkg --force-all -i filename
[01:36] <ActionParsnip> Dogget: download and install the debs in the order I gave in the pastebin
[01:37] <ohzie> ActionParsnip: My new HP's sound doesn't work. :( Other than that, everything is wonderful.
[01:37] <a_p3rson> HaH-Tarball: perfect, i see a row of green checkmarks, thankyou
[01:37] <Dogget> Any specific command Action?
[01:37] <Dogget> Or just double-click install?
[01:37] <ohzie> ActionParsnip: Would you be willing to point me in the right direction for troubleshooting it? Not 100% sure what to search for on the googles.
[01:37] <HaH-Tarball> a_p3rson: You're welcome! Enjoy your upgraded ClamAV.
[01:37] <mrdeb> how come ubuntu doesnt need drivers but windows does
[01:38] <ActionParsnip> !sound | ohzie
[01:38] <ActionParsnip> mrdeb: a lot of them are part of the default install
[01:38] <mrdeb> why
[01:38] <ActionParsnip> mrdeb: makes life easy
[01:39] <Guest10127> yes hello, how would i go about applying a patch like this? http://lists.berlios.de/pipermail/bcm43xx-dev/2008-December/005001.html
[01:40] <ActionParsnip> !pathc | Guest10127
[01:40] <ActionParsnip> !patch
[01:41] <ohzie> ActionParsnip: Replacing alsa with OSS? OSS is still even around?
[01:41] <ohzie> XD
[01:42] <ActionParsnip> ohzie: there is an alsa info script, if you can get the output of that then we can advise
[01:45] <ActionParsnip> ohzie: sure OSS is around http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=OSS&searchon=names&suite=all&section=all
[01:45] <ActionParsnip> duckduckgo has a bang for searching the packages, neat :)
[01:45] <redgetan> im having problems booting my wubi-based ubuntu 10.04 (dual boot windows + ubuntu).  here is the error msg
[01:46] <redgetan> http://paste.ubuntu.com/665380/
[01:46] <indy__> hello all
[01:46] <KM0201> o/
[01:46] <redgetan> ive been trying to follow instructions in http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1167710 but it hasn't been helpful so far
[01:46] <tabakhase> lol
[01:47] <ActionParsnip> ohzie: what is the output of: wget -O alsa-info.sh http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-info.sh; chmod +x ./alsa-info.sh; ./alsa-info.sh
[01:47] <tabakhase> i just recoverd a dead usb stick, how? "plug in on a booted ubuntu" -.-
[01:47] <indy__> I would like to ask you if someone is able to help me to make the wilress work on a amilo xa 1526 with natty 32 bit. It seems that one have to load the sis136u driver using ndiswrapper. I did it but with no results. Any idea?
[01:47] <urlin2u> redgetan, read carefully. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1639198
[01:48] <redgetan> urlin2u: thanks, i'll take a look at that
[01:48] <ActionParsnip> indy__: did you modprobe ndiswrapper ?
[01:49] <Bookman> I have a USB pendrive that I can no longer delete files on.  Is there a reason for this?
[01:49] <urlin2u> redgetan, no problem, bare in mind wubi is a bit different so look for that when fixing.
[01:49] <indy__> ActionParsnip I am pretty sure I did it. Anyway I did it now
[01:50] <TheHackOps> Hey, does anyone know why my mic decided to disappear on me this morning?
[01:51] <je0rJey> can somebody please post their config file for newsbeuter
[01:52] <indy__> ActionParsnip I modprobe'd it and now I restarted the networking. No results
[01:52] <TheHackOps> Hey, does anyone know why my mic decided to disappear on me this morning?
[01:53] <je0rJey> can someone please post their config file for newsbeuter..
[01:54] <Cradam> for newswhater
[01:54] <greggg> When capturing audio input through the rear mic, sound is very low and muffled--if I tap on my microphone I hear barely-audible thud-thud-thud's. I checked in alsamixer that the rear mic is not muted, and set the rear mic boost to 100%. Any ideas on how to go about getting the rear mic to work properly? I'm running Natty.
[01:54] <Bookman> I cannot even delete files on my USB thumb drive
[01:55] <TheHackOps> greggg, do you know how to get my mic to even work
[01:55] <craigbass1976> Is there some trick to burning a wmv to dvd so that it will play in a regular dvd payer?
[01:55] <urlin2u> Bookman, is there a trash on the thumb?
[01:56] <TheHackOps> craigbass1976, Convert it, then burn it
[01:56] <bazhang> craigbass1976, convert using handbrake, then use devede
[01:56] <TheHackOps> hehe bazhang
[01:56] <bazhang> !handbrake | craigbass1976
[01:56] <bazhang> craigbass1976, there is also a PPA for handbrake
[01:56] <TheHackOps> bazhang, could you please help me with my mic problem?
[01:56] <Bookman> urlin2u, nope
[01:57] <bazhang> TheHackOps, not enough info, give the channels tons more info first
[01:57] <greggg> TheHackOps: The mic works properly when using the front port.
[01:58] <urlin2u> Bookman, so what are the symptoms, right click and delete nothing happens?
[01:58] <greggg> TheHackOps: Oh sorry misread what you typed. I am not sure.
[01:58] <TheHackOps> bazhang, ok so this morning i woke up and i went to use Google plus and it said no mic was found, when i went to check the sound properties it was all greyed out and that is where im at
[01:58] <TheHackOps> greggg, i can help you aswell if u want
[01:59] <Bookman> urlin2u, yes.  the option to send to trash is greyed out.  If I select a file and press delete key, nothing happens
[01:59] <escott> Bookman, can you !paste the output of "mount"
[01:59] <TheHackOps> Bookman, check your permisions for ur account
[01:59] <urlin2u> Bookman, hit ctrl-h and see if there is a trash hidden, and it may be full.
[02:01] <Bookman> urlin2u, no hidden trash directories
[02:02] <TheHackOps> nvm i fixed it
[02:02] <TheHackOps> thanks!!!
[02:02] <Dogget> Still no luck guys for the printer issue...man oh man I don't want to use Windows!
[02:03] <bazhang> Dogget, what driver does linuxprinting.org say that printer should use
[02:03] <bazhang> Dogget, from their printer database
[02:03] <malaphus> Hello friends.
[02:04] <Dogget> From here Bazhang: http://welcome.solutions.brother.com/bsc/public_s/id/linux/en/download_prn.html#MFC-J265W
[02:04] <indy__> ActionParsnip Is it normal that modprobe -l |grep ndiswrapper gives the same result before and after loading the module?
[02:04] <Dogget> Two good fellas tried to help me but I am still running after the install!
[02:05] <malaphus> I just installed 11.04 server (everything was fine, booted clean), then I did a dist-upgrade to get the box up to date and now when I boot, I get about 10-15 lines before the initial login prompt telling me the detected capacity of all 3 of my MD devices changed from 0 to <whatever they are>, anybody seen this before?
[02:05] <Bookman> escott, http://pastebin.com/2g8aKkRA
[02:05] <urlin2u> Bookman, fixing dinner now somebody will get you running. ;)
[02:06] <ross_> How do I reduce the temperatures of my cpu and laptop in general
[02:06] <bazhang> ross_, ##hardware please
[02:07] <ross_> oh sorry
[02:07] <Dogget> Bazhang I am running Ubuntu 10.10 64 bits
[02:07] <K-Rich> hey all
[02:07] <Dogget> As I can't install 11.04 at all I am keeping this version on.
[02:07] <Bookman> Anyone else have an idea about my unwritable usb stick?
[02:08] <escott> Bookman, does id say uid=1000(keithclark)
[02:08] <Bookman> escott, ?
[02:08] <rypervenche> Bookman: maybe root is the owner?
[02:08] <escott> Bookman, type "id" in terminal what is your uid
[02:09] <Bookman> uid is keithclark
[02:10] <escott> Bookman, i need the #
[02:10] <Bookman> escott, uid=1000(keithclark)
[02:11] <escott> Bookman, ok. what error do you get with "touch /media/KINGSTON/test_touch.txt; rm /media/KINGSTON/test_touch.txt"
[02:13] <Bookman> escott, http://pastebin.com/VG4D9tyW
[02:15] <nronksr> the hyperlink when you first enter by ubuntu is invalid.  It needs the : removed from before the http to function properly. :)
[02:16] <jamesw> hi
[02:16] <escott> Bookman, thats odd. try sudo mount -o remount,rw /media/KINGSTON; touch /media/KINGSTON/test_touch.txt
[02:17] <jamesw> can someone please point me to more general canonical chat?
[02:17] <Bookman> escott, sucess
[02:17] <bender_> what up everybody
[02:17] <bazhang> jamesw, there is none, #ubuntu-offtopic for chit chat
[02:17] <jamesw> what about for employees?
[02:17] <escott> Bookman, thats really odd. because mount said it was rw mounted. im not sure what the root cause of this is
[02:18] <Bookman> escott, yup, weird
[02:18] <bazhang> jamesw, use alis. thats not really an ubuntu support question
[02:18] <bazhang> !alis | jamesw
[02:18] <Bookman> escott, I can solve most of my issues on my own, but not this one
[02:18] <jamesw> bazhang: ty
[02:21] <Bookman> escott, I cannot even format it with gparted as root
[02:22] <celestial> hey every one i have a problem i have a external monitor that worked correctly in maverick and lucid but i upgraded to natty and it doesnt support the proper resoulution of 1360x768 is ther a app that can fix this easily?
[02:22] <escott> Bookman, was this a promotional give away at a conference?
[02:22] <Dogget> Anything else you can help with Bazhang?
[02:22] <Bookman> escott, nope.  I bought it and it worked fine until I installed Ubuntu 11.10
[02:23] <escott> Bookman, so what error are you getting when you try to format it?
[02:23] <Bookman> escott, the option is greyed out
[02:23] <OerHeks> Bookman does it have a write-protect switch ?
[02:23] <escott> Bookman, did you umount it?
[02:24] <bazhang> Dogget, you installed the drivers?
[02:24] <Bookman> escott, I believe so
[02:24] <escott> Bookman, check if it is listed in `moun`
[02:24] <escott> `mount`
[02:24] <Dogget> No Dude That is the issue I am having
[02:24] <Bookman> Yes it is.  I pasted that here
[02:25] <escott> Bookman, you can't format it if it is mounted
[02:25] <Bookman> escott, ah...let me see
[02:26] <escott> Bookman, you need to "eject" it or sudo umount /media/KINGSTON first
[02:26] <vaihi> Hello all.  Just setting up a laptop in 11.04  Installed in English and want to switch entirely to French.  Is this possible?
[02:26] <bazhang> vaihi, sure
[02:26] <Bookman> escott, formatting now!
[02:26] <rypervenche> vaihi: Bien sûr que oui^^
[02:26] <Dogget> @Bazhang: I need to obvisouly install the 64 bits version of the MFC-J265W drivers
[02:27] <bazhang> Dogget, do they exist?
[02:27] <vaihi> ryper how do I do this
[02:28] <nronksr> celestial: add the resolution via xrandr.  Do you know how to do that?
[02:28] <escott> vaihi, "language support" application
[02:28] <celestial> nronksr no i dontis a config file
[02:29] <rypervenche> vaihi: Je t'ai envoyé un PV.
[02:29] <vaihi> This laptop is for my daughter and her family to use.  I speak French but am an expat and I am living in Tahiti
[02:30] <nronksr> celestial: try this: cvt 1360 768 60 << 60 being your refresh rate.  You could use 75 or whatever as long as you know what it uses w/o blowing up at that resolution.
[02:30] <nronksr> celestial: that's going to give you the modeline.
[02:30] <Dogget> Well not sure dude, I am not even sure I am trying the 32bits install correctly anyway
[02:31] <nronksr> celestial: if you have xrandr, you can then:  xrandr --newmode "1360x760" (and copy all the data from the modeline "" to the end of the line.  ie:  xrandr --newmode "1360x768" 84.75 1360 1432 1568 1776 768 771 781 798 -hsync + vsync (that's my monitor) - copy your own modeline.
[02:32] <rypervenche> vaihi: http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/17528/change-the-user-interface-language-in-ubuntu/
[02:34] <JakeR003> i did it because of love! don't hate me
[02:34] <bazhang> JakeR003, ?
[02:34] <JakeR003> nothing
[02:35] <JakeR003> i have this idea in my brain.. FORMAT! FORMAT!
[02:35] <bazhang> !ot | JakeR003
[02:35] <Flannel>  /lastlog JakeR003
[02:35] <Flannel> blah
[02:35] <JakeR003> i don't type alot. don't worry
[02:36] <JakeR003> infact i finished customizing my ubuntu. so i will be leaving soon
[02:36] <JakeR003> you won't see me in a year or more
[02:38] <jamesw> assuming i have the ability to install packages and run scripts  remotely on a system i administer, what is the easiest way to set up vnc or an x server or something so i can visually admin it via gui?
[02:38] <escott> jamesw, ssh -X ... sudo synaptic
[02:38] <poseidon> what is gnome's package name?
[02:39] <poseidon> to get the gdm
[02:39] <Flannel> poseidon: gdm
[02:39] <Dogget> Still no luck Bazhang I guess. Guess I have to use windows for printing...and it sucks big time!
[02:41] <jamesw> thanks escott, this is close to what i want, any other ideas so i don't have to set up an x server locally? i am on a mac, it would be great to have vnc connect out to me
[02:42] <maheanuu> ryper this is maheanuu, I have installed 11.04 on my daughters puter but can't seem to get the system to be in french as that is the mother tongue here
[02:42] <escott> !vnc | jamesw any other solution will be more complex
[02:42] <haosdent> hello,this is my first time go to #ubuntu
[02:42] <edbian> haosdent: hello
[02:42] <jamesw> thank you escott
[02:43] <maheanuu> rypervenche this is maheanuu, so you would recommend Mint for a newbie over 11.04?
[02:44] <edbian> maheanuu: I would not.  ubuntu has a better upgrade path
[02:44] <rypervenche> maheanuu: Both are fine. Use whichever you like. Stick with Ubuntu if you already have it installed.
[02:44] <rww> Ubuntu also has this channel for support. Mint is an unofficial derivative, so it isn't supported here, and Mint's IRC channel is... less active.
[02:44] <edbian> rww: smart choice of words
[02:45] <maheanuu> My problem is the set up from the beginning, my french is lousy from a reading writing pov, but I speak pidgin  I am older than dirt and the family has had nothing but probs with windoze so I am trying to switch us all over to Ubuntu
[02:46] <maheanuu> I love Ubuntu but I havent switched to 11.04 as I didn't like the new layout
[02:46] <rww> !classic
[02:46] <escott> maheanuu, did you use the "language support" application
[02:46] <edbian> maheanuu: You can run 11.04 and still use the gnome 2.x interface
[02:46] <maheanuu> I set them up in English and now want to get everything in french if possible
[02:47] <tabakhase> installed ubuntu, installed windows. installed grub from livecd, grub->windows worked, grub->ubuntu worked, grub->windows sont work annymore?! windows is 5 minutes ago, commands issued during the ubuntu session: none, just reboot. ideas? (windows stops with black screen blinkin coursor)
[02:48] <edbian> tabakhase: Log into ubuntu and run sudo update-grub
[02:49] <tabakhase> edbian should this make a difference? already done it from livecd on chroot
[02:49] <escott> tabakhase, hit F8 when booting windows and try safe-mode
[02:49] <edbian> tabakhase: It should make all the OSs bootable from grub
[02:50] <maheanuu> edbian, I know I have them switched to classic on their laptop but havent been able to get the french language for system so far
[02:50] <tabakhase> escott stays at the blinking coursor
[02:50] <escott> tabakhase, do you get any kind of windows splash screen?
[02:51] <tabakhase> edbian "it should", and before ive booted ubuntu ive already booted windows from grub once (livecd shutdown, grub->win7=worked)
[02:51] <tabakhase> escott absolutely nothing
[02:52] <escott> tabakhase, in that case grub may not be handing over to windows correctly try and reinstall grub
[02:52] <edbian> tabakhase: I realize you are seeing strange behavior.  I suggest you keep trying things until you can get something that is at least consistent.
[02:52] <tabakhase> edbian as usual ;-)
[02:53] <tabakhase> ecanto reinstall from livecd or harddisk ubuntu?
[02:53] <jwiggins> I switched my video card from a NVIDIA series to an Intel HD3000 (Sandy Bridge). The /etc/X11/xorg.conf file is customized for NVIDIA. How would I regenerate this for my Intel HD3000? I did install the edge sources for xorg intel drivers.
[02:53] <urlin2u> tabakhase, did you update windows and get the sp1 installed?
[02:53] <bindi_> Shouldnt all 2.6 kernels have hz=1000?
[02:54] <bindi_> I checked and my ubuntu is running at 250 :(
[02:54] <tabakhase> and ive checked /boot/grub/grub.conf the win entry looks little funy, but the UUID is fine http://nopaste.php-quake.net/54948
[02:54] <tabakhase> urlin2u release march2011 so sp1 included
[02:55] <urlin2u> tabakhase, cool the sp1 changes the mbr, just wondering with a fresh install.
[02:55] <escott> jwiggins, remove the xorg.conf most likely
[02:55] <ActionParsnip> jwiggins: just rename the file, see if udev picks it up ok
[02:55] <jwiggins> okay I will give that a shot, right now 3D apps are running just throwing NV errors
[02:56] <jwiggins> be back in a min restarting X
[02:56] <escott> tabakhase, --no-flop[p]y i assume you typo'ed?
[02:56] <tabakhase> escott yes ;-)
[02:57] <escott> tabakhase, you are also missing --class windows --class os declarations between the menuentry and the curly-brackets
[02:58] <escott> bindi_, hertz are configurable and have been for years
[02:58] <bindi_> escott: on the fly?
[02:58] <escott> bindi_, no but during the make kernel-config
[02:58] <bindi_> escott: well I don't do that. why isnt it 1000 by default?
[02:59] <hellothere> hello
[02:59] <ActionParsnip> hi hellothere
[02:59] <hellothere> hello ActionParsnip
[02:59] <hellothere> i am wondering
[02:59] <escott> bindi_, because they decided 250 was better. can't tell you the reasoning on that.
[02:59] <hellothere> what is the difference between compiling software vs packages?
[03:00] <nimbiotics> Hello all. (using ubuntu 11.04) I downloaded the latest version of vuze and jre but i still cant make vuze work. The output i'm getting is at http://paste.ubuntu.com/665406/ Can someone help me make this work? TIA!
[03:00] <jwiggins> Seems to have worked, still get error "Xlib:  extension "NV-GLX" missing on display 0.0" running google-earth but glxgears is at 60fps with no artifacts.
[03:00] <edbian> hellothere: a package is software that has already been compiled
[03:00] <jwiggins> should I be concerned about the NV-GLX error if I don't have a NVIDIA card?
[03:00] <ActionParsnip> hellothere: packages are ready made bnaries, compiling source will allow you to use your own options and you can make a package from your compiled binaries
[03:00] <hellothere> edbian: is there an advantage to compiling?
[03:00] <haosdent> compiling software don't need to compile ^_^
[03:01] <escott> jwiggins, did you switch your libGL to point to the mesa gl stack
[03:01] <hellothere> so there pratically is no difference between a compile install vs a package install?
[03:01] <edbian> hellothere: You can get older / newer versions by compiling
[03:01] <indy__> hello again. On my amilo xa 1526 with natty 32 biti loaded the sis136u driver using ndiswrapper, but while I say "sudo start networking" the answer is "networking stop/waiting". What can I do to make wlan0 work?
[03:01] <edbian> hellothere: sometimes you cannot find a compiled version of the file so you have to compile it yourself
[03:01] <tabakhase> escott in real  --class windows --class os  are existent
[03:01] <jwiggins> escott, I did not, and I do not know how to do that. Any pointers or just google it?
[03:02] <edbian> hellothere: The package install is much different.  It automatically updates, allows you to easily uninstall, and handles dependencies
[03:02] <hellothere> kk
[03:02] <escott> hellothere, if you want to compile everything there is an entire distro dedicated to that process called gentoo
[03:02] <edbian> hellothere: You should always install packages from the repos first.  Only compile / install by hand if you have to
[03:02] <zelozelos> hellothere, sometimes its better to get the prog from the repo, occasionaly it dosent exist but no packages are there for that type of sys,
[03:02] <hellothere> ebdian: thanks for the help
[03:02] <escott> jwiggins, did you install the updated mesa stack?
[03:02] <edbian> hellothere: sure
[03:02] <hellothere> brb guys
[03:02] <tabakhase> ive just fired up windows repair, he detected smth on partition list while doing "fix startup"...
[03:02] <hellothere> mIRC is killing me.
[03:02] <edbian> hellothere: :)
[03:03] <ActionParsnip> jwiggins: make sure you disable vdpau in your apps and it won't mona
[03:03] <ActionParsnip> *moan
[03:03] <zelozelos> hellothere, compiling just points to the parts of the program thats needed to run , like sound device etc
[03:03] <jwiggins> escott, I do not believe so unless it was part of the xorg edge
[03:03] <tabakhase> 1. its still grub bootloader
[03:03] <tabakhase> 2. klick on win7 still brings the black screen and a coursor -.-
[03:04] <indy__> one thing more: dmesg says "couldn't load driver sis163u" and "couldn't prepare driver sis163u". what can I do?
[03:04] <escott> jwiggins, you need to have libgl1-mesa-dri                 7.11
[03:04] <zelozelos> tabakhase, sounds like you messed up the winloader program, thers a program that will fix it, but you'll have 2 google it i dont remember its name
[03:04] <urlin2u> tabakhase, if you don't get running, run this script and pastebin the text file.  http://bootinfoscript.sourceforge.net/
[03:05] <zelozelos> tabakhase, its something similar to win.msi or .mui or something close to that
[03:05] <ActionParsnip> indy__: from the windows driver?
[03:05] <jwiggins> escott, apt-get saysI have the latest "libgl1-mesa-dri"
[03:05] <jwiggins> escott, so I guess I have it, maybe it is not set to be used?
[03:05] <hellothere> back
[03:05] <escott> jwiggins, i dont care what apt-get says you have. i care what dpkg -l "*mesa*" says you have
[03:05] <ActionParsnip> indy__: you will need to download the driver for windows and use it in ndisgtk
[03:06] <hellothere> anyhows... so it isn't that compiling is "cleaner" than packages
[03:06] <jwiggins> escott, :) one moment, thank you for working with me
[03:06] <edbian> hellothere: what do you mean by cleaner??
[03:06] <tabakhase> urlin2u im on the way.
[03:06] <edbian> hellothere: I would say 'no' because it throws files all around and the package install gives an easy way to remove them (compiled installed are hard to uninstall)
[03:06] <zelozelos> if i installed a compiled program via sudo make install, and deleted the compiling folders, how do i remove the installed program?
[03:06] <indy__> ActionParsnip from the windows driver 32 bit (I am on 32 bit) for windows 7 and vista
[03:06] <tabakhase> zelozelos a keyword more than "winloader" would be awesome? ;-)
[03:07] <urlin2u> tabakhase, cool you have some great help but missing info. ;)
[03:07] <jwiggins> escott, "ii  libgl1-mesa-dri                             7.12.0~git20110811.9cd64ec3-0ubuntu0sarvatt free implementation of the OpenGL API -- DRI modules"
[03:07] <sniggel> Hello, I am trying to mount an NFS export that is on my CentOS 6 onto my Ubuntu client v 11.04. I exported the folder as rw but I cannot write or make any changes to the mount (it is correctly mounted). When I do ll on the forlder, I notice these permissions drwxr-xr-x and the owner is a number (not my own username).
[03:07] <zelozelos> tabakhase, im looking for it now sorry so vague
[03:07] <tabakhase> ;-)
[03:07] <hellothere> edbian: how do you uninstall a compile btw?
[03:07] <sav_> ActionParsnip! You still here?
[03:08] <edbian> hellothere: You go to every file it dropped and delete that file manually.
[03:08] <escott> jwiggins, i guess edge pulled that in. did it also give you a 3.0 kernel?
[03:08] <gogeta> hellothere: you need to have the souce still make uninstall
[03:08] <hyperstream> Gah, how do i stop the panel on the left(with all active/common/pinned applications ~ replaced the taskbar style.) from staying out. I hovered over it an hour ago and it never went back in.(First time)
[03:08] <jwiggins> escott, no I am still at 2.6.38-10-generic
[03:08] <hellothere> kk guys
[03:08] <edbian> hellothere: There is no good way to know where all the files are.  Sometimes the developer puts an 'uninstall script' in the software.
[03:08] <gogeta> hellothere: do a make uninstall from the compiled dir
[03:08] <phrostbite> I have my laptop running ubuntu connected to my tv and in th etop left it has the word "Mirror" how do I remove that?
[03:08] <edbian> hellothere: That makes it very easy.  But typically there is no such script
[03:08] <hellothere> gogeta: kk
[03:08] <sav_> Edbian: Hello again.
[03:08] <jwiggins> escott, was a little hesitant on the 3.0 update
[03:09] <gogeta> hellothere: if you dont still have the source you gotta do it by hand
[03:09] <edbian> hellothere: However this is mostly about installing vs. uninstalling. Where installing means copying certain files to certain places in the system.  compiling does not mean installing necessarily.  They usually are done together though
[03:09] <edbian> sav_: hi.  I don't remember you :(
[03:09] <zelozelos> tabakhase, i guess since its not a q about ubuntu i should send you a pm
[03:09] <hellothere> kk gogeta and edbian
[03:09] <sav_> edbian: Was here the other night with a corrupted drive. Guess you help a lot of people.
[03:10] <edbian> hellothere: :)
[03:10] <hyperstream> Is there some sort of way i can reset/restart this side bar ?
[03:10] <edbian> sav_: I do :)  I remember vaguely though.
[03:10] <edbian> sav_: Can you not get Ubuntu to boot?
[03:10] <edbian> sav_: Do you have a strange 3 way external hdd cable?
[03:10] <luigi> hellothere: make install in a chroot, see where it put files
[03:10] <gogeta> hellothere: the best way to avoide that porblem is when you compile the code make a deb file as well so apt can handel it
[03:10] <sav_> edbian: The second thing is true, the first thing is way off the mark
[03:10] <jwiggins> escott, I will go ahead and do the 3.0 upgrade, since that is easy enough to revert
[03:10] <hellothere> kk guys
[03:10] <hellothere> i'll be back
[03:11] <hellothere> i hate mIRC atm
[03:11] <sav_> edbian: The drive never had important data on it
[03:11] <escott> jwiggins, i dont know if thats enough. check with edge, but the kernel needs to step with the mesa stack. in any case is everything in "locate libGL | xargs ls -l" pointing at mesa
[03:11] <edbian> sav_: hahah Trying to remember you :)
[03:11] <sav_> edbian: It's fried to death somehow, nothing I did helped.
[03:11] <phrostbite> I have my laptop running ubuntu connected to my tv and in th etop left it has the word "Mirror" how do I remove that?
[03:11] <edbian> hahaha hellothere is funny
[03:11] <edbian> sav_: Is this drive in a laptop?
[03:12] <sav_> edbian: Nope.
[03:12] <sav_> edbian: It's external.
[03:12] <edbian> sav_: Can you boot ubuntu while the drive is connected?  (on a liveCD or otherwise)
[03:12] <sav_> edbian: I don't know why you keep asking that.
[03:12] <sav_> edbian: It's a blank external.
[03:13] <edbian> sav_: Sorry :P  Maybe we should start from the beginning because I don't remember. What is the issue in it's entirety
[03:13] <edbian> ??
[03:14] <jwiggins> escott, http://pastebin.com/957EnBPn
[03:14] <sav_> edbian: No, no, that isn't necessary at all. I just cannot do anything with it. I'm sure it's fried. There is no removing the corruption from that disk.
[03:14] <jwiggins> escott, I believe the answer is no
[03:14] <tabakhase> urlin2u http://nopaste.php-quake.net/55016 bootinfoscript run from the installed ubuntu
[03:14] <edbian> sav_: ooooh ok :)
[03:15] <tabakhase> sdb and sdc are just USB
[03:15] <sav_> edbian: Ok would be a bad way to describe it.
[03:15] <hyperstream> And non of the CCSM unity reveal positions are changing
[03:15] <hyperstream> Anyway to remove unity back to the older?
[03:15] <edbian> hyperstream: log out, click your name, change the session, log in
[03:16] <hyperstream> edbian, Thank you!!
[03:16] <phrostbite> I have my laptop running ubuntu connected to my tv and in th etop left it has the word "Mirror" how do I remove that?
[03:16] <edbian> hyperstream: sure
[03:17] <zelozelos> phrostbite, close the monitor options program
[03:17] <phrostbite> Hmm. I did and no effect.
[03:17] <jwiggins> escott, BRB booting 3.x
[03:17] <escott> jwiggins, i think this may be nvidia /usr/lib32/libGL.so.275.21. check with apt-file search? google earth appears to ship with its own version of GLU don't know how that works maybe its just mesa?>
[03:18] <szal> sav_: 'dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sdX' didn't help?  (attn: COMPLETE DATA LOSS)
[03:19] <sav_> szal: I left it for hours. The operation never finished. The way dmesg looks, it seems as though it was totally unable to do anything.
[03:19] <indy__> ActionParsnip I have installed the windows driver using ndisgtk. It says "hardware recognized", but I have the same answer from the command "sudo start networking": I obtain ""networking stop/waiting"
[03:19] <indy__> ActionParsnip I feel that I am very close to the solution but I don't know how to proceed
[03:19] <sav_> szal: Hence why I'm totally sure this thing is fried to death, regardless of how recently I got it.
[03:19] <ActionParsnip> indy__: is ndiswrapper module loaded?
[03:20] <szal> sav_: RMA then
[03:20] <hellothere007> hello again
[03:20] <hellothere007> i was hellothere a while ago
[03:20] <sav_> szal: I got it for free from a friend. Can't do that.
[03:20] <edbian> hellothere007: :)
[03:20] <indy__> ActionParsnip yes, I can see it with lsmod.
[03:20] <sav_> szal: C'est la vie.
[03:21] <hellothere007> edbian... are you using windows atm?
[03:21] <urlin2u> tabakhase, when having problems always remove the usb devices they have boot flags. Okay widows sda3 reads as busy, and shows no boot files, probably due to not mounting, if it were me I would run a chkdsk /f/r on the sda3 partition, or at least figure out why it is not mounting.
[03:21] <edbian> hellothere007: Sir!  I'm insulted!
[03:21] <jwiggins> escott, running 3.x now same error with google-earth as you predicted.
[03:21] <indy__> ActionParsnip I have errors in dmesg like: "cant load driverssis163u"
[03:21] <edbian> hellothere007: No I'm using Debian right now :)
[03:21] <hellothere007> sorry edbian... :D
[03:21] <sav_> Oh hey, all the people who ever helped me with this problem are here at once.
[03:21] <edbian> hellothere007: no worries
[03:21] <hellothere007> i'm tring to find a irc client
[03:21] <edbian> sav_: hi
[03:21] <hellothere007> for windows that works
[03:21] <bazhang> hellothere007, ubuntu support question?
[03:22] <centHOGG> mirc
[03:22] <hellothere007> edbian: mIRC isn't as good as mibbit.com
[03:22] <ActionParsnip> indy__: then the ndiswrapper isn't configured right. Is there no native driver?
[03:22] <rypervenche> edbian: Thumbs up to you good sir!
[03:22] <sav_> edbian: Er, hi?
[03:22] <sniggel> Hello, I am trying to mount an NFS export that is on my CentOS 6 onto my Ubuntu client v 11.04. I exported the folder as rw but I cannot write or make any changes to the mount (it is correctly mounted). When I do ll on the forlder, I notice these permissions drwxr-xr-x and the owner is a number (not my own username). I would like to mount it so I can actually rw.
[03:22] <tabakhase> urlin2u just pluged the USBs "now" - chkdsk from winrepair i presume?
[03:22] <indy__> ActionParsnip I cannot pastebin simply because I am without an ethernet cable to connect the two pc, I am passing package by package with an SD stick :)
[03:22] <ActionParsnip> !irc | hellothere007
[03:22] <hellothere007> centHOGG: how do you get the client to highlight your name when it is said?
[03:22] <bazhang> hellothere007, this is ubuntu support; please ask ##windows for windows support
[03:22] <jwiggins> escott, when I run glxinfo I am seeing that it is using GL_VERSION 2.1 Mesa 7.12-devel
[03:22] <centHOGG> not sure
[03:22] <ryoohki> i asked this earlier with now reply:
[03:22] <hellothere007> ok linux question now:
[03:22] <ryoohki> when i do "dpkg -l | egrep -i virtualbox-ose | tr -s ' '" i see "virtualbox-ose 4.0.4-dfsg-1ubuntu4.1" but i can see virtualbox-ose 4.1.0-dfsg-2ubuntu1 is out but when i do "apt-get update && apt-get upgrade && apt-get dist-upgrade" the update never shows up, as well as previous updates like virtualbox-ose  4.0.10-dfsg-1ubuntu1  which was out 2011-07-04( more than a month ago)
[03:22] <edbian> rypervenche: :)
[03:23] <escott> jwiggins, i would be sure to purge any nvidia related stuff
[03:23] <ryoohki> anye idea why the updates are being installed?
[03:23] <urlin2u> tabakhase, the sdc1 has a partial windows boot files /bootmgr /boot/bcd, this may be p[art pof the problem. I would run the chkdsk or start it from the install disc booted to the repair terminal, will ask for one at reboot if it see's sda3
[03:23] <ActionParsnip> ryoohki: could try the virtualbox ppa
[03:23] <escott> jwiggins, personally i would urge patience. the 11.10 release should have the sandy's well supported, and its only another 3 months to release
[03:23] <jwiggins> escott, should I purge and reload the mesa and intel just to be sure too?
[03:24] <indy__> ActionParsnip apparently no: it is a problem that people already had on edgy, stating from ubuntu french, english and italian forums. They solved it using either your way (ndisgtk) or via command line.
[03:24] <jwiggins> escott, okay sounds good, I don't really need 3D that bad, this is a laptop
[03:24] <escott> jwiggins, shouldn't be necessary, but it probably won't hurt
[03:24] <rww> more like two months, actually
[03:24] <tabakhase> urlin2u sdc1 is the windows install disk, booting now....
[03:24] <ActionParsnip> indy__: then make sure it's the right driver, you need the .inf and .sys
[03:24] <urlin2u> tabakhase, with windows not monting we have to sort of peck at it with the regualr options a chkdsk wont hurt for sure.
[03:25] <szal> ryoohki: if VBox-OSE follows the same naming convention as the 'official' VBox, then 4.0 != 4.1 (different pkg name); you could try to just install 4.1; it should remove 4.0 automatically
[03:26] <indy__>  ActionParsnip: I downloaded two drivers: the first was suggested by the french forum and they use it with success, This one  says "hadware not recognized" in ndisgtk. The other driver (Win7/Vista) says "hardware recognized".
[03:26] <jwiggins> escott, thank you for the assistance I will just wait for 11.10 to mess around with 3D again
[03:26] <tabakhase> urlin2u already done a "automatic startup repair" where he found&corrected smth on partition table, but i think he hesnt done the chkdsk, doing it now as soon hes booted
[03:26] <tabakhase> results follow
[03:27] <indy__>  ActionParsnip: but the I cannot start wlan0 and dmesg confirms there is some error
[03:27] <poseidon> I'm about to do an ubuntu install.  Is it possible to force a gnome 2 for the desktop environment?
[03:27] <jwiggins> escott, though all the reconfiguring has seem to resolved the screen artifacts that I was getting occasionally
[03:27] <urlin2u> tabakhase, the auto repairs can be problematic you mentioned it kicked out a grub mention, seemed strange I wondered if grub was not in the widows partiton.
[03:27] <rww> !classic | poseidon
[03:28] <ActionParsnip> indy__: have you ran:  sudo modprobe ndiswrapper
[03:28] <bazhang> poseidon, choose classic, no need to force
[03:28] <ryoohki> szal: thanks!
[03:28] <ActionParsnip> poseidon: the unity desktop also uses Gnome 2
[03:28] <poseidon> bazhang: ok. thanks.  I haven't used a desktop manager in forever, so I'm a little rusty
[03:28] <poseidon> So used to xmonad
[03:28] <poseidon> setting up for someone else
[03:28] <jwiggins> will classic ever be phased out or will Gnome always be a part of Ubuntu?
[03:28] <ActionParsnip> jwiggins: unity2D replaces classic in oneiric
[03:28] <escott> jwiggins, gnome 3 has a different fallback mode
[03:28] <indy__>  ActionParsnip: modprobe is loade, but if you think is useful I can reload it
[03:28] <puffin> Who you setting it up for, aphrodite? oh ho ho
[03:28] <tabakhase> urlin2u there is a "nonactive" broken grub on the win7usb, but shouldnt create any problems..
[03:29] <rww> jwiggins: Unity is built on GNOME. Ubuntu oneiric switches to GNOME 3, and Unity works on top of that. GNOME 3 has a fallback mode that can be used.
[03:29] <ActionParsnip> indy__: if its ni then its ready to rock
[03:29] <jwiggins> ah okay didn't realize that, it just looked so different
[03:29] <BlackArchDog> poseidon: did u ever get to slackware or gentoo and arch linux .. If you had would have learned that ubuntu comes with gnome as defualt
[03:30] <ActionParsnip> BlackArchDog: well the default desktop install does ;)
[03:30] <indy__>  ActionParsnip: first of all thank you for your help. I checked again dmesg and effectively the error comes out while loading ndiswrapper
[03:30] <urlin2u> tabakhase, so run the chkdsk, remove the thumb and the W7 disc when done boot to Ubuntu and run a update-grub, it just may be that W7 was not mounting.
[03:33] <BlackArchDog> ActionParsnip: yes we all know almost every distro does gnome as defualt there are a few distro's that do kde as defualt
[03:33] <tabakhase> urlin2u chkdsk C: /f /r is running, satge 4/5 no errors so far...
[03:33] <tabakhase> 5:30 and there is the sun btw...
[03:33] <BlackArchDog> ActionParsnip: forgot few other distro'
[03:33] <bazhang> !ot | BlackArchDog
[03:33] <urlin2u> tabakhase, okay.
[03:34] <BlackArchDog> bazhang: do you plane on having everyone progressing in the idea of using linux???? I love ubuntu I told this is a start ,but it is never going to be the end all to all of linux
[03:35] <ActionParsnip> BlackArchDog: you can install Ubuntu minimal then install whatever DE you want. The OS will tell you it's ubuntu but you will be using any DE you desire
[03:35] <bazhang> BlackArchDog, and this is not the place to discuss it, as you have been told many times.
[03:35] <rww> BlackArchDog: Hi. You keep being offtopic in #ubuntu. #ubuntu is for Ubuntu technical support. #ubuntu-offtopic is for offtopic chatter. I strongly recommend you stop confusing the two. Thanks :)
[03:35] <ActionParsnip> BlackArchDog: I can name loads of Linuxes not using Gnome, there are more than a few
[03:37] <hellothere> back again
[03:37] <hellothere> after fixing things
[03:37] <ActionParsnip> hi hellothere
[03:37] <hellothere> ActionParsnip: any lightweight linux window managers like windows-style?
[03:38] <Lasers> Windows-style? You mean bloated window manager?
[03:38] <sniggel> Last time I will ask, I will retry tomorrow:  I am trying to mount an NFS export that is on my CentOS 6 onto my Ubuntu client v 11.04. I exported the folder as rw but I cannot write or make any changes to the mount (it is correctly mounted). When I do ll on the forlder, I notice these permissions drwxr-xr-x and the owner is a number (not my own username). I would like to mount it so I can actually rw.
[03:38] <BlackArchDog> ActionParsnip: I can to ... lol I was getting to that ... Sorry been drinking a liqueur... Takes a bit longer for transmission bewteen brain waves sorry
[03:38] <nankura> hellothere try IceWM , its pretty close to windows XP or older, or you can use openbox or XFCE and use a windows theme.
[03:38] <hellothere> nankura: will look into
[03:38] <urlin2u> tabakhase, if the reboot to Ubuntu after the chkdsk, and the update-grub does not work run the bootscript ah=agin so we can se windows and if it's still not mounting and or the boot files are showing.
[03:39] <hellothere> nankura: right now i looked at wvm95 or wahtever it is called and it seems to need adjustments to the distro i'm using.
[03:39] <tabakhase> urlin2u should i try windows first or going to ubuntu straight for getting "save dump&update"?
[03:39] <urlin2u> tabakhase, go to ubuntu first and run update-grub.
[03:40] <tabakhase> k
[03:40] <urlin2u> then reboot to see if windows boots
[03:40] <hellothere> oh... random question to all
[03:40] <ryoohki> szal: adding the vitualbox.org pps and apt-get install virtualbox-4.1 worked
[03:40] <hellothere> how did everbody ease their transition to linux?
[03:40] <ryoohki> szal: ppa, not pps
[03:40] <urlin2u> started with it
[03:40] <bazhang> hellothere, #ubuntu-offtopic please
[03:41] <hellothere> bazhang: sorry
[03:41] <david> bonjour
[03:41] <Costanza> i think i got it, in dd  dd if=/dev/fd0 of=/home/sam/MBRboot.image bs=512 count=2 , count=2 means 2 seconds , so top copy 63 sectors i would write 63 there?
[03:41] <hellothere> bazhang: i thought it was ubuntu related.
[03:41] <Costanza> to*
[03:42] <Guest64203> any
[03:42] <Costanza> 2 sectors*
[03:42] <theadmin> hellothere: Yes, but it's not support-related
[03:42] <hellothere> theadmin: kk.
[03:42] <theadmin> hellothere: In this channel, only support questions are accepted.
[03:42] <Guest64203> channel fr
[03:42] <rww> Guest64203: #ubuntu-fr pour francais svp
[03:42] <Guest79855> such a noob question but anybody know how to run .bin?
[03:42] <urlin2u> tabakhase, you understand the update-grub from a terminal I assume?
[03:43] <theadmin> Guest79855: chmod +x whatever.bin ; /path/to/file.bin
[03:43] <tabakhase> urlin2u chkdsk were totaly happy, and hm?
[03:43] <Guest79855> thanks :D
[03:44] <Guest79855> appreciate it a lot :D
[03:44] <theadmin> Guest79855: No problem. If the file is in current directory, you can as well use: ./file.bin
[03:44] <theadmin> Guest79855: Or even $PWD/file.bin, if that looks prettier for you
[03:45] <indy__>  ActionParsnip: SÌÌÌÌÌ!!!! CAZZO CE L'ABBIAMO FATTA!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I found the correct driver (it needed the WinNT version)
[03:45] <urlin2u> tabakhase, shut down remi=ove the MS disc and thumb and boot to Ubuntu and in the terminal run sudo update-grub  then reboot to see if windows boots.
[03:45] <tabakhase> urlin2u sure, just wondering about the "you understand the update-grub from a terminal I assume?"
[03:46] <urlin2u> tabakhase, I asked due to this post  "save dump&update"?
[03:47] <urlin2u> tabakhase,  don't know none of due if everybody understands just dotting the i's, crossing the T's
[03:47] <urlin2u> I
[03:47] <centr0> anyone have any experience with virtualbox?  im having trouble starting vboxnet0 at boot and #vbox arent responding :(
[03:47] <indy__>  ActionParsnip: Thank you very much! I have a question. ndiswrapper is always loaded on every reboot or I had to add it somewere?
[03:47] <Dr3am3r> Hi all
[03:48] <hyperstream> edbian, hey champ - my previous issues was cause by a 'update' which had not been restarted to complete everything. As i went to log out to switch sessions it prompted me to restart- everything working as intended ~ thanks again.
[03:48] <edbian> Hyperbyte: glad you figuered it out
[03:48] <Guest79855> @theadmin : Thanks for a quick reply.
[03:49] <Dr3am3r> I am new to Ubuntu and I know you must get this all the time, but I just need few minutes of anyone's time , I would like to build or install a module
[03:49] <rypervenche> Dr3am3r: What exactly are you trying to do ?
[03:49] <theadmin> Guest79855: No problem.
[03:49] <theadmin> Dr3am3r: A kernel module?
[03:49] <Dr3am3r> I downloaded an app/tool for proxy and it says "To install this module, run the following commands:"
[03:50] <Guest79855>  Installation done :D
[03:50] <theadmin> Dr3am3r: Oh... Well, um, just follow those instructions
[03:50] <theadmin> Guest79855: Installation of what, by the way?
[03:50] <luigi> Dr3am3r: Did you run them?
[03:51] <Dr3am3r> using the Terminal ? I don't know where to run them.
[03:51] <theadmin> Dr3am3r: Obviously :/
[03:52] <tabakhase> urlin2u http://nopaste.php-quake.net/55026 and the diff http://nopaste.php-quake.net/55027
[03:52] <Guest79855> Packet tracer
[03:53] <Dr3am3r> This is what I get when I type the first line "Checking prerequisites...
[03:53] <Dr3am3r>  - ERROR: Class::Data::Accessor is not installed"
[03:53] <Guest79855> The gui is like you run it in wine :D
[03:54] <theadmin> Dr3am3r: Seems to be a Perl module, isn't it? Did you try using CPAN?
[03:55] <urlin2u> tabakhase, windows is still not mounting your problem is with windows, you should try #windows for this to be honest. Not trying to push you off but windows is whwere the problem is.
[03:56] <Dr3am3r> it is a Perl module, I'm really new to Ubuntu I have installed it 4 days ago .. so i have no idea what a CPAN is, you can even direct me to a website/Guide or help me understand this.
[03:57] <indy__> I have another issue that I woukd like to ask you, and I hope the result will be successful as for the wifi
[03:57] <theadmin> Dr3am3r: CPAN is a Comprehensive Perl Archive Network, providing an automatic way to install modules. Try this: perl -MCPAN << install whatever::module::you::want
[03:57] <tabakhase> urlin2u mounting sda3 brings me just a device busy, nothing to go further with?
[03:57] <theadmin> Dr3am3r: Err, not <<, but <
[03:57] <indy__> How can I make the Webcam work on my amilo xa 1526? It worked until maverick and in notty is not recognized
[03:58] <tabakhase> forced umount or smth while its not mountet in /proc/mounts?
[03:59] <urlin2u> tabakhase, not really I'm real familiar with boot problems, but the OS's have to be working for me to help, the windows channel though have people who are windows users, and may have better methods for debugging it.
[03:59] <tabakhase> ntfs-3g.probe --readwrite /dev/sda3 returns zero
[04:00] <kanupatar> hello
[04:00] <kanupatar> I am using ubuntu 11.04
[04:00] <root_> hi
[04:00] <tabakhase> urlin2u theyll try killing me when i post "grub" in there ;-)
[04:00] <kanupatar> I would like to use old style task bar
[04:00] <luigi> tabakhase: You're having windows boot problems?
[04:00] <kanupatar> how?
[04:00] <luigi> Maybe I can hlep.
[04:00] <luigi> s/le/el
[04:00] <tabakhase> luigi installed ubuntu, installed windows. installed grub from livecd, grub->windows worked, grub->ubuntu worked, grub->windows sont work annymore?! windows is 5 minutes ago, commands issued during the ubuntu session: none, just reboot. ideas? (windows stops with black screen blinkin coursor)
[04:01] <luigi> tabakhase: Try a different bootloader first.
[04:01] <tabakhase> so grub was able to mount&boot windwos one single time
[04:01] <bazhang> !classic | kanupatar
[04:01] <urlin2u> tabakhase, nah there are many dual booters there they realize a OS is OS, and are there to help, grub is not the problem, you could try putting the MS bootloader in the mbr, but  doubt that would work but worth trying to see if windows boots then.
[04:02] <Jayz> OMG
[04:02] <Jayz> Oneiric is so slow
[04:02] <luigi> tabakhase: Go install ms-sys
[04:02] <Jayz> Hope get best when finish
[04:02] <Jayz> :3
[04:02] <bazhang> Jayz, #ubuntu+1 for that
[04:02] <rww> Jayz: #ubuntu+1 for oneiric discussion and support
[04:02] <Jayz> Is only a coment
[04:02] <luigi> tabakhase: And then try ms-sys -7 /dev/sda HOWEVER IT MAY BREAK THE BOOTLOADER ON THE SYSTEM SO HAVE A LIVE CD
[04:03] <Dr3am3r> theadmin: Build.pl is the one I want to install correct ?
[04:03] <urlin2u> luigi, there is a helper in windows who has a updated ms-sys, even though it is as old as the greeks and not suggested, never know though.
[04:03] <luigi> urlin2u: It's always worked for me... Odd.
[04:03] <tabakhase> urlin2u luigi ok ill do, get me a moment, il be back with news
[04:04] <centHOGG> ms always dinks the mbr
[04:04] <luigi> urlin2u: I personally use archlinux, and ms-sys has worked to replace my BURG bootloader. I don't see why it won't work here, it's the same set up.
[04:04] <indy__> well, it will be for tomorrow
[04:04] <indy__> good night (at 6:04 am!!)
[04:04] <urlin2u> luigi, cool but regular boot loaders work on a working setup, notice the caveat onmy last post.
[04:05] <Jon--> Having an issue with Ubuntu : Headphones go in headphone jack, sound continues to come out of laptop speakers.  Ubuntu 11.04
[04:05] <urlin2u> luigi, did you look at the bootscript posts?
[04:05] <luigi> I don't know what those are.
[04:05] <kanupatar> ubottu: thanks budddy
[04:05] <urlin2u> luigi, you might take a look windows is not mounting anywhere.
[04:05] <luigi> urlin2u: I don't know what they are.
[04:06] <theadmin> luigi: yay Arch xD
[04:06] <luigi> theadmin: This is a support channel. If you'd like to talk about the arch master race we can go to #archlinux-offtopic.
[04:06] <urlin2u> luigi, quite helpful worth learning, hey if you can run arch you can understand the bootscript.;)
[04:06] <theadmin> luigi: Sure, sure.
[04:07] <theadmin> luigi: Or I could PM you if you don't mind.
[04:07] <luigi> urlin2u: I don't understand. Bootscripts native to Ubuntu?
[04:07] <urlin2u> theadmin, lol
[04:07] <luigi> theadmin: I'm good, thanks.
[04:07] <theadmin> urlin2u: Arch bootscripts are nothing like Ubuntu's. Ubuntu uses Upstart. Arch uses SystemD.
[04:07] <tabakhase> luapz_ "win7 successfully written to device" rebooting... bootinfo btw http://nopaste.php-quake.net/55032
[04:07] <urlin2u> luigi, used most often I think in ubuntu.
[04:07] <rwx> when I use emerald my window controls dissapear. Halp?
[04:08] <rww> !emerald
[04:08] <tabakhase> " => Windows is installed in the MBR of /dev/sda."
[04:08] <urlin2u> theadmin, and grub legacy linux is lionux though.
[04:08] <luigi> urlin2u: Arch uses very different boot scripts based on the bsd style system. It's not like the debian upstart and init.d and all that stuff.
[04:08] <urlin2u> luigi, cool well we are way of topic here.
[04:09] <nc__> ??
[04:09] <luigi> tabakhase: Did it boot?
[04:09] <TFGBD> Will 11.10 run on the Xbox 360?
[04:09] <rww> TFGBD: ask #ubuntu+1
[04:10] <TFGBD> Sorry, what does the +1 signify?
[04:10] <nc__> have someone speaking something?
[04:10] <thunsucker> !ubuntu+1 | TFGBD
[04:10] <rww> TFGBD: the one above the current version
[04:10] <TFGBD> Ah, sorry.
[04:11] <TFGBD> Okay, how about 10.10 or 10.04 then?
[04:11] <tabakhase> luigi urlin2u blinking coursor after "verifying DMI pool data" from bios, no reaction to F8
[04:11] <nc__> shang bu qi a...
[04:11] <thunsucker> TFGBD: google?
[04:11] <nc__> -,-!
[04:11] <lion42> Why google when you can have people on IRC google for you.
[04:12] <TFGBD> Eh, I can't say I found much.
[04:12] <TFGBD> Plus, it's always fun to hear comments and experiences in realtime.
[04:12] <thunsucker> TFGBD: i found the answer in less than 10 seconds, try harder
[04:12] <thunsucker> TFGBD: google: xbox 360+ubuntu
[04:12] <bazhang> TFGBD, this is not the channel for that
[04:12] <ActionParsnip> TFGBD: there used to be xboxlinux but I think it's dead
[04:12] <TFGBD> Oh, I found some. But it's mostly for older versions.
[04:12] <urlin2u> tabakhase, you have a MS disc put the MS bootloader in the mbr and see if it boots   terminal in the repair   bootrec.exe /fixmbr
[04:12] <TFGBD> Yeah, I've noticed.
[04:12] <luigi> tabakhase: This might be a stretch, but are you sure you didn't unmount the windows drive forcefully?
[04:13] <TFGBD> I get the impression most people don't care too much about linux on it.
[04:13] <needhelp1> evening
[04:13] <centr0> ive just changed my /etc/network/interfaces  how do i reload the network?
[04:13] <tabakhase> luigi for sure im not sure...
[04:13] <luigi> tabakhase: In addition to what urlin2u said, I would also run a chkdisk on your windows partitions.
[04:13] <luigi> Just in case.
[04:13] <Jokn> centr0: /etc/init.d/networking restart
[04:13] <theadmin> centr0: sudo service network restart
[04:13] <theadmin> Oh, networking
[04:14] <centr0> thanks.
[04:14] <tabakhase> chkdsk was done before "this" reboot, ill try mbr from restore now...
[04:14] <thunsucker> TFGBD: the guides for install 9.04 and 9.10 will probably still work, the process has probably not changed
[04:14] <hack27> like to do some movie trailers any program
[04:14] <hack27> ?
[04:15] <hack27> or there isn;t any
[04:15] <Costanza> when i opned a sector viewer i saw MBR on sector 0 and PBR on 63.. how would i actually backup both into 1.img file using dd :<
[04:15] <ohzie> ActionParsnip: Hey I uninstalled and recompiled 1.0.23 and alsa works great now
[04:15] <ohzie> Thanks!
[04:16] <bazhang> hack27, apple movie trailers?
[04:16] <hack27> but for linux
[04:16] <hack27> aint that for apple computers
[04:17] <bazhang> hack27, wget them. apple blocks linux
[04:17] <TYDIRocks> Does it matter if I put Ubuntu on a CD or DVD?
[04:17] <usermanager> is it possible to install 11.04 over 8.04
[04:17] <bazhang> TYDIRocks, no
[04:17] <bazhang> usermanager, of course
[04:17] <urlin2u> tabakhase, here are 4 commands commonly used to fix the boot and rebuild the bcd as well. http://paste.ubuntu.com/665449/
[04:17] <thunsucker> TYDIRocks: no, just depends on if the iso is too large to fit on a cd
[04:17] <ActionParsnip> ohzie: sweet :)
[04:17] <usermanager> bazhang will all setting and data be ok ?
[04:17] <hack27> so i could imovie program
[04:17] <ActionParsnip> TYDIRocks: burn the CD ISO to a CD, burn the DVD ISO to a DVD
[04:17] <hack27> get*
[04:18] <bazhang> usermanager, you have a separate home partition?
[04:18] <TYDIRocks> AactionParsnip, How can I tell which I downloaded
[04:18] <thunsucker> hack27: imovie is for macs only
[04:18] <ActionParsnip> TYDIRocks: remember to MD5 test the ISO before you burn it so you know it's complete and consistent
[04:18] <bazhang> hack27, imovie on linux? no
[04:18] <ActionParsnip> TYDIRocks: size is a dead giveaway
[04:18] <usermanager> no
[04:18] <thunsucker> hack27: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OSXApplicationsEquivalents
[04:18] <ActionParsnip> TYDIRocks: use tab to complete nicks ;)
[04:19] <bazhang> usermanager, tell the installer to keep home then, also always have backups
[04:19] <TYDIRocks> ActionParsnip, I already have tested the md5. For some reason Ubuntu isn't installing. Fedora would boot up find, but all I get with Ubuntu is "Operating System not found
[04:19] <ActionParsnip> TYDIRocks: did you make the CD test itself for defects?
[04:20] <usermanager> how to check whether i got home partiton ? i forgot i install it in a single partion or 2 partion
[04:20] <ActionParsnip> TYDIRocks: did you burn the CD slowly?
[04:20] <luigi> usermanager: sudo fdisk -l
[04:20] <TYDIRocks> ActionParsnip, when burning in windows 7 I checked Verify disc
[04:20] <theadmin> usermanager: See the output of "mount"
[04:20] <thunsucker> TYDIRocks: what version? I always use a usb stick to install, created with unetbootin
[04:20] <TYDIRocks> ActionParsnip, and I've tried 2 different DVDs.
[04:20] <TYDIRocks> thunsucker, I'm doing 11.04. And the USB version won't let me install to the harddrive, will it?
[04:21] <tabakhase> urlin2u luigi BootRec.exe /ScanOs returned "total identified windows installations: 0" but the grafical repair finds my windows btw...
[04:21] <thunsucker> TYDIRocks: if you want it to install every single time, and not have to worry about bad cd's/dvd's and etc and burn speeds, use usb
[04:21] <thunsucker> TYDIRocks: yes sir it will, works just like the cd, you will notice no differences
[04:21] <thunsucker> TYDIRocks: except you won't heard the loud buzz of the cd lol
[04:21] <usermanager> i got 2 i guess one is for swap
[04:21] <luigi> tabakhase: You didn't destroy your windows system partition, did you?
[04:21] <TYDIRocks> thunsucker, I tried earlier today with a usb and it was wanting to install it on the usb itself it seemed
[04:22] <urlin2u> tabakhase, rum all 4 in the order there are in and hope. ;)
[04:22] <urlin2u> run
[04:22] <thunsucker> TYDIRocks: how did you create the usb stick?
[04:22] <TYDIRocks> thunsucker, then again. I put in a new harddrive because that one may of been mountfunctioning
[04:22] <TYDIRocks> thunsucker, with unetbootin
[04:22] <ActionParsnip> TYDIRocks: the disk has a self test when it first starts to load
[04:22] <usermanager> i want to install 11.04 over 8.04 and want to keep my data and firefox setting and all password ..... how to do it
[04:22] <tabakhase> luigi if that happend it wasnt me, i just booted and as u see my fstab is clear
[04:22] <thunsucker> TYDIRocks: go back and try unetbootin, it shouldn't even prompt you to install on the usb stick
[04:23] <ActionParsnip> usermanager: install Natty then restore your data from bacups
[04:23] <ActionParsnip> *backups
[04:23] <TYDIRocks> ActionParsnip, the disk seems to work find on windows. The wubi thing comes up find
[04:23] <Anom01y> !ssl
[04:23] <ActionParsnip> TYDIRocks: doesn't mean its ok, get it tested
[04:23] <TYDIRocks> thunsucker, well for the over 4.4 gigabytes, it was X'd out. Was that possibly because of a hard drive error?
[04:23] <thunsucker> TYDIRocks: if you want to make sure, your normal hard drives will be similiar to /dev/sda1 and usb will be something different
[04:23] <tabakhase> urlin2u luigi the restored windows (from repair using all commands) works!!
[04:23] <usermanager> actionparsnip , which folder or data should i backup ?
[04:23] <ActionParsnip> thunsucker: also test ram using the liveCD
[04:23] <Dulak> hack27: you can get apple trailers working with the gecko-mediaplayer package, it works for me in firefox
[04:24] <TYDIRocks> ActionParsnip, how?
[04:24] <ActionParsnip> usermanager: ~/.mozilla     why do you not already have it backed up????
[04:24] <luigi> tabakhase: Congrats. Looks like the problem was with grub.
[04:24] <thunsucker> TYDIRocks: memtest on bootup
[04:24] <ActionParsnip> usermanager: I suggest you clear cache to save backing up temp internet files
[04:24] <urlin2u> tabakhase, cool so just reload grub to the mbr or use easybcd your choice.
[04:24] <thunsucker> TYDIRocks: don't over think it, just use unetbootin and see what happens
[04:24] <TYDIRocks> thunsucker, memtest of what?
[04:24] <urlin2u> I use grub myself tabakhase
[04:24] <ActionParsnip> TYDIRocks: when the CD starts to boot, press SPACE and you should see the menu to test RAM and the disk
[04:25] <ActionParsnip> usermanager: again, why is the data not already backed up??
[04:25] <TYDIRocks> ActionPasnip, how can I tell when it starts to boot?
[04:25] <ActionParsnip> TYDIRocks: the usual bios screen will go and you'll see a blank screen or a boot splash
[04:25] <usermanager> i never did any backup for my ubuntu from the frist day i installed :)
[04:25] <TYDIRocks> ActionParsnip, so when it is at the black screen press space?
[04:26] <ActionParsnip> TYDIRocks: I just hammer space when it starts to load. I also suggest you try the minimal ISO and use a wired connection. You can install straight from the repos rather than a CD
[04:26] <ActionParsnip> TYDIRocks: yes
[04:26] <thunsucker> TYDIRocks: skip the tests, since you said you had a bad hard drive that you already replaced, just install and it will probably be fine, if not, then do the tests
[04:27] <TYDIRocks> Alright, I'll try the usb first. Also action, it checks the dvd itself right?
[04:27] <thunsucker> TYDIRocks: there is an option to test boot media
[04:27] <ActionParsnip> TYDIRocks: USB has no moving parts so checking stuff isnt necessary
[04:28] <thunsucker> ^^
[04:28] <usermanager> are files saved on ubuntu  on home directory only ? or there's somewhere else i should check ?
[04:28] <TYDIRocks> ActionParsnip, I meant when using the dvd
[04:28] <tabakhase> urlin2u so plan now: boot livecd, shotdown, check windows still working, shutdown, grub from livecd, interupt, goto command, "retype" normal ubuntu from nopaste, boot harddisk ubuntu, update&install grub, see if windows works. (when still not repair again try bootmanaging from windows side (easybcd e.g.))?
[04:28] <ActionParsnip> usermanager: settings for each users apps are stored in $HOME
[04:28] <ActionParsnip> TYDIRocks: then you should run the disk check. USB install will be faster and is more reliable
[04:29] <TYDIRocks> ActionParsnip, alright I'll try the USB first
[04:29] <zenergi> is it normal to only get 7.2 of 8TB on a freshly formatted drive?  I set the reserve space to 0 too.  Anything else I can do to get some of theother 10%?
[04:29] <urlin2u> tabakhase, I can't quite follow that, but I think the W7 bootfiles got corrupted or wiped some how.
[04:29] <urlin2u> tabakhase, originally
[04:29] <thunsucker> zenergi: thats just the way it is
[04:29] <ActionParsnip> zenergi: if you used a journalling filesystem, you will be using some space to hold the journal
[04:30] <luigi> zenergi: It's absolutely normal. There's a difference between MiB and MB
[04:30] <urlin2u> tabakhase, eaybcd works with the MS boot in the mbr, not grub.
[04:31] <usermanager> so is it possible to just copy the whole folder of home to a cd ? after a fresh installation of 11.04 then overwrite the entire home folder ?
[04:31] <thunsucker> usermanager: I wouldn't overwrite it, but you could copy the files inside your home folder back to your home folder
[04:31] <thunsucker> usermanager: something like /media/cd1/home/john/* /home/john/
[04:32] <Lasers> usermanager: Sure. Best to do it when *xdm isn't running. Make sure the permissions is correct too (to your name).
[04:32] <ralarX> hey, I have an athlon xp 1800 from 2003, which ubuntu version would fit me?
[04:32] <TYDIRocks> thunsucker, how can I make sure it's trying to install to the HD again?
[04:32] <thunsucker> TYDIRocks: lol it will automatically do that for you, if you must verify, it will label the hard drive probably /dev/sda1
[04:32] <Lasers> ralarX: Err. Your choice. Latest Ubuntu or Stable Ubuntu.
[04:33] <ActionParsnip> usermanager: yes, when you install, just restore the folder and you are ready to rock :)
[04:33] <thunsucker> TYDIRocks: but the size will an obvious give away
[04:33] <thunsucker> TYDIRocks: how big is the hard drive you have in there now?
[04:33] <TYDIRocks> thunsucker, yeah it showed over 4.4 gb
[04:33] <ActionParsnip> ralarX: any will be fine
[04:33] <TYDIRocks> thunsucker, 80 gb
[04:33] <thunsucker> TYDIRocks: did it show about 77 or 78ish?
[04:33] <lololol> yo, if you guys want a good target, richard clarke recently came out saying there is a huge 911 cover up when he was in office.
[04:33] <lololol> george tennet responded http://georgejtenet.com/ClarkeStatement.html
[04:33] <lololol> edit that shit so it says they caused 911 lol
[04:33] <thunsucker> !spam | lololol
[04:34] <ralarX> Lasers: site recommends 64bit, does my hardware fit that or is this unrelated?
[04:34] <thunsucker> !flood | lololol
[04:34] <TYDIRocks> thunsucker, it didn't show the size. It showed the thing that it had over 4.4 gb.
[04:34] <quiescens> its more off topic tan flooding really
[04:34] <quiescens> than*
[04:34] <thunsucker> TYDIRocks: well if your usb stick is 4g, and it showed more than that, you're good
[04:35] <thunsucker> quiescens: i agree but I don't know the command for that
[04:35] <Lasers> ralarX: I have no idea how to check for 32/64bit capability on Windows.
[04:35] <thunsucker> !offtopic | lololol
[04:35] <quiescens> lol
[04:35] <thunsucker> there we go
[04:35] <thunsucker> lol
[04:35] <ralarX> I run windows 98 now :>
[04:35] <Lasers> ralarX: You want to find out if your machine can run 64bit. If it can, go with it. Otherwise, go with 32. You can take full advantage of your hardware that way.
[04:35] <thunsucker> ralarX: then you're running 32-bit LOL
[04:36] <thunsucker> ralarX: how much memory do you have?
[04:36] <thunsucker> 128mb?
[04:36] <ralarX> 512 M
[04:36] <thunsucker> ralarX: if you go with ubuntu, use 10.04
[04:36] <centHOGG> lts
[04:36] <TYDIRocks> thunsucker, yeah it shows 80 gb
[04:36] <ralarX> 10.04, any specific reason for that?
[04:36] <TYDIRocks> showed*
[04:36] <luigi> Don't use x86_64 on anything under 1 GB of ram.
[04:36] <thunsucker> ralarX: it's LTS and the new interfaces say of 11.04 will eat your machine for a snack
[04:37] <thunsucker> TYDIRocks: see you're good then :P
[04:37] <needhelp1> you can use grep to search a txt file for a specific word, right?
[04:38] <TYDIRocks> thunsucker: How come when I'm creating the name, it says that the name is already taken on the network when it isn't?
[04:38] <thunsucker> needhelp1: grep cat *
[04:38] <nronksr> I'd try bodhilinux on a system like that.  w/ 512 mb ram (ubuntu 10.04 w/ enlightenment) will run just fine, and very quick.
[04:38] <thunsucker> TYDIRocks: are you at home or at a school?
[04:38] <Lasers> ralarX: Stability. What else? Also, 11.04 is on this new /possibly-broken/ thing called Unity.
[04:38] <TYDIRocks> thunsucker: home
[04:38] <thunsucker> TYDIRocks: what are you trying to name it?
[04:38] <TYDIRocks> thunsucker: anonymous
[04:38] <needhelp1> thunsucker, so if im searching file.txt for all words of "test" i would do ..
[04:39] <thunsucker> TYDIRocks: lol pick something else
[04:39] <TYDIRocks> thunsucker: I also tried tyler-ubuntu but that didn't work either
[04:39] <TYDIRocks> thunsucker: whenever I change a character it still says the same
[04:39] <zenergi> ActionParsnip: thigns, i didn't think the journal would take 10% of the disk space
[04:39] <thunsucker> TYDIRocks: i've have bad luck using special characters in names, make it simple, tyler
[04:39] <needhelp1> grep --text 'test' /file.txt cat  ? thunsucker
[04:39] <zenergi> ActionParsnip: sorry, thigns = thanks :)
[04:39] <TYDIRocks> thunksocker: Turns out after I entered my password it was fine
[04:40] <thunsucker> needhelp1: no
[04:40] <nronksr> grep -i test file.txt
[04:40] <thunsucker> needhelp1: cd into the directory of the files you want to search, type: sudo grep cat *
[04:40] <TYDIRocks> just realized i spelt your name thunksocker lol
[04:40] <thunsucker> needhelp1: that will search all files in that directory to see if they have the word cat in them
[04:41] <thunsucker> TYDIRocks: lol type thu and then press tab, types it for you :)
[04:41] <thunsucker> TYDIRocks: a suggestions, quit over thinking things, just go with the flow
[04:41] <TYDIRocks> thunsucker, oh, that's cool
[04:41] <thunsucker> TYDIRocks: lol
[04:41] <TYDIRocks> thunsucker, hah
[04:41] <thunsucker> TYDIRocks: it's similiar to the way things work in linux, you can tab a lot of filenames and paths to make it easier
[04:42] <TYDIRocks> thunsucker, coolio
[04:42] <thunsucker> zenergi: it's always been that way, a smaller example is my hard drive. it's a 160g drive but i only get 153g
[04:43] <overclucker> stupid hd manufacturers and thier decimal numbering
[04:44] <TYDIRocks> thunsucker, also, I take it there is a tool in Ubuntu to partition a drive?
[04:44] <TYDIRocks> thunsucker, after installing
[04:44] <tabakhase> upon the livecd im right now able to mount /dev/sda3... urlin2u
[04:44] <thunsucker> TYDIRocks: why would you want to partition the drive after the install?
[04:45] <TYDIRocks> thunsucker, incase I want to use another distro of linux
[04:45] <urlin2u> tabakhase, unmount before installing grub, and boot to Ubuntu first after grub install and run the sudo update-grub before trying to boot windows.
[04:45] <thunsucker> TYDIRocks: if you want to eventually dual boot, you can use a program called gparted that will resize partitions to give you room to install the other distro
[04:45] <thunsucker> TYDIRocks: but the cool thing is that most distro's installs will do that for you automatically
[04:46] <tabakhase> ill do..
[04:46] <TYDIRocks> thunsucker, oh cool. I was just thinking of maybe hopping backtrack on here. Although I now remember it was made for just running it off a cd
[04:46] <thunsucker> TYDIRocks: i've been thinking about trying 11.10 with a dual boot, just to get a taste of what it'sa bout
[04:47] <TYDIRocks> thunsucker, nice :)
[04:47] <urlin2u> tabakhase, cool I think your set I suspect the original not booting to Ubuntu after installing grub started a process, along with missing boot files in widows was the problem, hard to say just a theory. ;)
[04:48] <urlin2u> tabakhase, you chrooted originally i use a different method I have never had to chroot to install grub, so I may be wrong on that.
[04:49] <tabakhase> is there anything more that "could do smth" to my windows then fstab? no hm?
[04:50] <urlin2u> tabakhase, hard to say a correct fstab I would think would not be a problem, personally I like my W7 only opened when I want and closeable.
[04:51] <urlin2u> no w7 in my fstab
[04:52] <usermanager> will my dsl dialer setting still there afeter i do a frsh install of 11.04 and then restore back the home folder ?
[04:55] <wildbat> usermanager: should be if you use nm .
[04:56] <usermanager> ok thaks bye
[04:57] <inashdeen> .
[05:00] <tabakhase> urlin2u http://nopaste.php-quake.net/55051 "bootinfo in chrooted from livecd after upadte-grub but before grub-install - and after grub-install http://nopaste.php-quake.net/55052
[05:00] <tabakhase> no error on the bootsector thing of win7 for now...
[05:00] <tabakhase> now booting linux from disk
[05:00] <urlin2u> tabakhase, so you can boot to windows?
[05:02] <lotrpy> hello, after sudo add-apt-repository ppa:..., how to remove or delete the ppa? ubuntu 10.04 without GUI.
[05:04] <farsight> /var/cache/apt/archives/???
[05:04] <urlin2u> tabakhase, the regular boot files for W7 not showing, but  have seen this before, and everything worked, you have some encryption so who know if it works your set.
[05:04] <ActionParsnip> LtHummus: ppa-purge
[05:05] <llutz_> lotrpy: find the sources.list file containing the ppa (grep -ri ppaname /etc/apt/*) and delete it then (sudo nano filename)
[05:05] <tabakhase> urlin2u so, grup is installed, first ubuntu then windows test?
[05:05] <lotrpy> llutz_, I find it at /etc/apt/source.list.d/, is it safe just delete it?
[05:06] <ActionParsnip> LtHummus: install ppa-purge then use the same ppa address as an arg to ppa-purge and it will remove it for you
[05:06] <llutz_> lotrpy: delete the file only, not the dir. sudo apt-get update after doing so
[05:07] <lotrpy> llutz_, yes, just delete the file, not the dir, thanks
[05:07] <lotrpy> and sudo apt-get update after delete:)
[05:08] <urlin2u> tabakhase, I always boot to ubuntu first and run update-grub just to make sure grub is and has read all the OS's with the os-prober.
[05:13] <ntiy> hey. I have bunch of files named f1 f2 f3 ... f9 f10 f11... f100. How can I list then in "numerical" order? if I gust do ls I get: f1 f10 f100 f11 f12... f19 f2 f20 f21... and so on
[05:14] <llutz_> ntiy: ls |sort -nk                just a guess
[05:14] <frankbro> Is jockey-gtk keeping proprietary video drivers updated or would installing the drivers given on manufactures site a possible update? 3d games can make my X crash and I can't even start minecraft.
[05:16] <ntiy> llutz_: sort: option requires an argument -- k
[05:17] <llutz_> ntiy: man sort (-k key to start)
[05:18] <tabakhase> urlin2u following bootinfoscript mounting windrive failed again, device or resource busy, =( | so restore windows, boot from livecd, write grub, boot disk(restore!) write grub, boot from disk(normal), boot win(when its getting so far without putting in busy)
[05:18] <tabakhase> years ago i had "hide" lines in my grub, might this help?
[05:18] <yaboo> trying to install 11.04 desktop, but the screen blanks out during installation
[05:19] <yaboo> any reasons why
[05:19] <tabakhase> yaboo at what point goes to blank?
[05:19] <ActionParsnip> yaboo: what video chip do you use?
[05:19] <urlin2u> tabakhase, so the windows is failing again?
[05:19] <yaboo> just afer the keyboard and some round symbol at the botton
[05:19] <tabakhase> urlin2u right now yes, but this might been my fault...
[05:19] <yaboo> ActionParsnip, believe a nvidia chipset
[05:20] <urlin2u> tabakhase, run the 4 commands and install easybcd that will work.
[05:20] <tabakhase> urlin2u ill do one last try with recovery grubinstall before doing easybcd...
[05:21] <ActionParsnip> yaboo: add the boot option: nouveau.blacklist=1
[05:21] <yaboo> thanks ActionParsnip or its fedora for me then, if this fails
[05:23] <urlin2u> tabakhase, I have never used the recovery grub option I just use a live ubuntu cd, so not sure there theoretically supposed to work, but I like to use the terminal in this area.
[05:24] <allandee> anyone familiar with Synergy?
[05:25] <tabakhase> allandee quite
[05:25] <ActionParsnip> yaboo: it'll work ;)
[05:25] <dd_> would anyone be willing to help me figure out how to get my line printer working with lucid server?
[05:25] <yaboo> one hopes it will
[05:25] <dd_> i can't think of anything else
[05:26] <allandee> tabakhase; I chose left- shift-ctrl-alt-left to switch to the machine to the left of the center screen, and it seems right alt-gr sticks when I use the mentioned hotkey to switch to it
[05:26] <dd_> my usb > parallel adapter shows up in lsusb
[05:26] <allandee> even if I didn'
[05:27] <allandee> didn't use that as part of the hotkey-sequence to switch to it
[05:27] <dd_> lsmod shows everything i think should have loaded
[05:27] <dd_> yet there's no device
[05:28] <allandee> for the "client" machine, the left/"client" machine being an ubuntu 11.04 box, using quicksynergy
[05:28] <tabakhase> allandee why is a "veryfi" button neccessarry? im happy with the 250ms delay and scroll button to "lock" the mouse to a screen
[05:28] <bindi_> Using TightVNC server + viewer, how can I view the primary X session? Instead of a new one
[05:29] <allandee> tabakhase: I'm not aware of a verify-button in my mentioned setup?
[05:29] <dd_> nobody likes line printers? :(
[05:30] <allandee> dd_: I love line printers
[05:30] <dd_> would you be able to help me? i can't figure out why my oki microline 320 isn't orking for the life of me
[05:30] <dd_> i mean, the printer works
[05:31] <dd_> just not with lucid server :(
[05:31] <JohnnyL> Is it possible to make a call to get a snapshot of an app screen under X?
[05:31] <allandee> dd_ what is the lucid server, how does it not work, and what are you trying to do that provokes the failure?
[05:32] <dd_> 10.04 server
[05:32] <dd_> the device doesn't show up in /dev
[05:32] <dd_> lp or parport
[05:32] <dd_> they show up in lsmod
[05:33] <dd_> my usb > parallel shows up in lsusb
[05:33] <dd_> but there's no device :(
[05:33] <dd_> i just want my sweet sweet paper logs
[05:34] <allandee> dd_: we're talking about the dinosour type oki 380 that takes  paper with holes on both sides of fed paper here?
[05:34] <dd_> i was reading http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=894223 and couldn't find anything
[05:34] <dd_> yup
[05:34] <dd_> oki 320 turbo
[05:34] <allandee> what are you trying to print to it?
[05:36] <allandee> or; if you're trying to print a plain text file, "lpr myfile.txt" should do -- or even "cat myfile.txt > /dev/lp<thedeviceit'sbeenassigned>"
[05:36] <dd_> i had a program i wrote for windows that printed out log lines for another program, i'm just trying to make one for ubuntu
[05:37] <dd_> i have a strange setup that runs a vpn and bgp with some odd services
[05:37] <allandee> it should be as easy as directing standard output into standard input the device that has been set up for your printer
[05:38] <dd_> should be :(
[05:38] <allandee> is the printer attached to the computer that is ultimately receiving your print job?
[05:38] <dd_> yeah
[05:39] <allandee> if you issue "lpr" on that box, what does it say?
[05:39] <bindi_> Using TightVNC server + viewer, how can I view the primary X session? Instead of a new one
[05:40] <dd_> lpr just seems to hang, lp says Error: no default destination available
[05:41] <dd_> i should have a /dev/lp* or /dev/parport* though shouldn't i?
[05:41] <allandee> lpr hangs - have you done anything to set up the basic printing facilities?  (does lpq also hang?)
[05:42] <allandee> dd_: you should, and in which case, you should be able to do    echo "lol" > /dev/lp0
[05:42] <tabakhase> urlin2u look there, on windows!!! this is "from crooted live cd" http://nopaste.php-quake.net/55069
[05:42] <dd_> installed cups and the lp programs, that's all. I've never had to install a printer in linux so most of this printer stuff is new to me
[05:42] <JohnnyL> linux sucks
[05:42] <allandee> and your printer would do the obvious thing
[05:42] <dd_> yeah that was my plan
[05:42] <ActionParsnip> JohnnyL: don't use it then
[05:42] <JohnnyL> ActionParsnip: ok
[05:42] <allandee> dd_: cups will ruin your life in this case.
[05:42] <tabakhase> urlin2u wonder if that stays when rebooting from disk...
[05:43] <dd_> i'm afraid of cups from the time i used it 5 years ago
[05:43] <ActionParsnip> JohnnyL: plenty of alternative OSes to choose from :)
[05:43] <luigi> JohnnyL: Use Haiku then.
[05:43] <urlin2u> tabakhase, hopefully, boot straight to the ubuntu desktop no recovery and run in the terminal sudo update-grub, and it should be fixed, the W7 files are showing.
[05:43] <llutz_> just ignore the troll
[05:44] <urlin2u> tabakhase, as fra as chrooting you g=have to close it correctly  believe as wel.
[05:44] <gogeta> ActionParsnip: lo
[05:44] <urlin2u> I
[05:44] <randomusr> Do I need to uninstall and re-install my video drivers each time i  update my kernel? Or can I simply install the drivers while booted to the new kernel?
[05:45] <allandee> dd_:  be afraid.  however;  if your BIOS is standard-y, the /dev/lp* should have have an entry that gives you direct access to it
[05:45] <allandee> dd_: what does ls /dev/lp* say?
[05:46] <dd_> no such file :(
[05:46] <ActionParsnip> randomusr: what drivers do you use and how did you install them?
[05:47] <_newbie_> ciao a tutti
[05:47] <_newbie_> !list
[05:47] <urlin2u> tabakhase, are following the 11th and 12th instructions here. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2#ChRoot
[05:47] <theadmin> !it _newbie_
[05:47] <theadmin> !it | _newbie_
[05:48] <allandee> dd_: that is unfortunate.  there is not even an entry, with an unresolved link, to /dev/lp0?
[05:48] <urlin2u> tabakhase, 11 through 16 minus the 13th https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2#ChRoot
[05:48] <dd_> nope :/
[05:48] <ohzie> Hey guys, another question. All the laptops I've had for a while have had scrollbars on the right side of them, this one doesn't. Is there anything I can do to emulate a scrollbar?
[05:49] <randomusr> actionparsnip: used the nvidia drivers from nvidia using the install process from their website
[05:49] <mygfiscontradict> i'm ssh into my server and trying to download via wget but it just says connecting.
[05:49] <mygfiscontradict> i've checked internet connect and its working
[05:50] <ldr> ohzie they are two x options called emulatewheel and emulate wheel button which let you scroll by "moving" the mouse when you press a certain button
[05:50] <dd_> allandee, i have a usb to parallel converter for it, so i was thinking that it was causeing the problem
[05:50] <mygfiscontradict> first present to help me gets a thank you!
[05:50] <allandee> dd_: I don't think Ubuntu is the distribution you would like to choose as your starting point then. I imagine any/all other distros heed that ancient protocol.
[05:51] <crus> Hi guys. im running Ubuntu 11.04 on a white macbook 13", it seems it has crashed trying to run tuxracer.. I can't alt+tab.. or alt+ctrl+del, is there any other way to recover from this kind of crash without pulling the battery?
[05:51] <dd_> ah, i may have to give it it's own little windows server then :/
[05:51] <allandee> dd_: oh, certainly, that changes things :p
[05:51] <allandee> lp* is for the physical devices
[05:52] <ldr> crus you can install openssh-server and connect from another machine for example
[05:52] <JohnnyL> llutz: easy to stoop so low as to call a person a troll.
[05:52] <dd_> yeah i don't wanna do it either
[05:52] <jrib> crus: can you hit ctrl-alt-f1 and get to a tty?
[05:52] <crus> ldr: its in the crashed state, how am i going to install anything?
[05:52] <ldr> crus sorry thought it was more of a general question
[05:52] <crus> jrib: no response.. the machine is responding to pigs however
[05:52] <crus> pings even
[05:52] <JohnnyL> you know lutz stands for 'Famous Fighter'.
[05:52] <jrib> crus: pigs?
[05:52] <JohnnyL> It's short for Ludwig.
[05:53] <jrib> !sysrq | crus
[05:53] <dd_> it shows up in lsmod so i'm really confused as to why the device isn't there
[05:53] <allandee> JohnnyL; really?
[05:53] <JohnnyL> allandee: yes
[05:53] <robin0800> crus, tap power button this time and next time enable ctl+ alt=backspace to kill the x server
[05:53] <allandee> JohnnyL: I didn't know this, fascinating
[05:53] <JohnnyL> allandee: it's my last name, i should know. :)
[05:54] <crus> robin0800: seems like the only workable solution
[05:54] <crus> jrib: macbook doesn't have a print screen button
[05:54] <allandee> dd_: which is the pertinent line from lsmod?
[05:55] <dd_> allandee, if i lsmod | grep ls i get . . .
[05:55] <dd_> lp 9336 0
[05:55] <jrib> crus: you probably need to just hold the power button for about 10 seconds then
[05:55] <dd_> parport 37160 2 ppdev,lp
[05:55] <dd_> ...
[05:56] <crus> jrib: indeed.
[05:56] <bindi_> I set up remote desktop from the menu, tried connecting with tightvnc.. it hangs on "status: protocol version negotiated"
[05:56] <allandee> whole lot of sense that made.  and still, no globs on /dev/lp* ?
[05:56] <RKyle> I tried upgrading Maverick to Natty and while I was letting it download (because my internet is very slow so it was unattended) and my laptop got unplugged and now my install is broken. Is there a way I can fix it offline?
[05:57] <dd_> nope :(
[05:57] <ldr> crus but you should make preparations so you can avoid doing this again this method of shutting down can do damage to your file systems
[05:57] <jrib> RKyle: start with « sudo dpkg --configure -a »
[05:58] <crus> ldr: yep, which is why i was looking for a clean method.. I'm going to enable the dont zap.. although im hoping the key combination can be changed... there is no backspace key on this thing, only a delete key
[05:58] <RKyle> jrib, I tried and I got an error however I forgot what that error was.
[05:58] <jrib> crus: delete key acts as backspace though
[05:58] <jrib> crus: at least mine does
[05:58] <crus> sweet
[05:59] <jrib> RKyle: not sure how you expect me to respond :D
[05:59] <allandee> ddi_: I'd like you to do this: open a terminal window, switch to a root context, tail -f /var/log/messages
[05:59] <ldr> crus i would still recommend installing the openssh i can come handy in a lot of cases
[05:59] <allandee> then unplugg and replug your mouse
[05:59] <allandee> observe the messages
[05:59] <tabakhase> urlin2u even when after installing grub from livecd i boot directly to recovery sda3 gets stuck and is busy again
[05:59] <allandee> then unplug and replug your printer, and do the same
[06:00] <urlin2u> tabakhase, did you see my post about unmounting the chroot enviroment?
[06:00] <allandee> and see if you get any clues as to why your printer isn't being routed through an lp* device
[06:00] <robin0800> jrib, Are you sure as backspace back deletes rather than delete which forward deletes
[06:00] <RKyle> jrib, I'll try again though, I may be back soon but I'll write a file with the error and transfer it to my Windows partition if it happens again.
[06:00] <tabakhase> urlin2u jeps, im doing it already exacly like that
[06:00] <jrib> robin0800: it does on my macbook.  It's probably a setting
[06:01] <allandee> tail -f /var/log/syslog actually, on ubuntu
[06:01] <marezz> Hi everyone, I got a problem with watching videos, screen is black but I can hear the audio, I can only see parts of the video when I open dropdown menu in the player, when I open new window over the player I can see the video like on this screen shot http://imagebin.org/167757 This happens with every player, anyone knows how to fix this?
[06:01] <crus> robin0800: the delete key on a macbook does seem to have the same behaviour as the backspace key on a PC.. no idea how you would infact do a delete :D?
[06:01] <dd_> allandee, nothing unusual
[06:01] <jrib> robin0800, crus: in any case, fn+delete seems to act as delete so if your delete button on your macbook acts as delete, fn+delete is probably backspace
[06:02] <crus> jrib: ;) just tried it as you said it
[06:02] <allandee> dd_: what's the usual, in the context of unplugging and replugging your printer?
[06:02] <allandee> the line where it assigns a device to your printer
[06:02] <bindi_> I set up remote desktop from the menu, tried connecting with tightvnc.. it hangs on "status: protocol version negotiated"