[16:12] <ForgeAus> maybe its the particular DVD your trying?
[16:12] <ForgeAus> or something about encryption?
[16:12] <BluesKaj> noaXess, did you actually install libdvdcss2 ?
[16:14] <BluesKaj> noaXess, if you did then, reboot
[16:14] <ForgeAus> BluesKaj yeah I know why your asking I mean he said he installed kaffeine, xine and xinelibs but didn't mention dvd libraries :)
[16:14] <noaXess> BluesKaj: one moment..
[16:15] <noaXess> libdvdcss2 is installed.. no reboot.
[16:15] <ForgeAus> if you havn't rebooted since you installed it I suggest you reboot
[16:15] <ForgeAus> I'm not saying it will fix, but it can only help
[16:16] <noaXess> ForgeAus: okay..
[16:17] <ForgeAus> I don't like rebooting either :) unless I absolutely have to I know how u feel
[16:17] <ForgeAus> whats worse is people tell me to do it at the most inopportune times
[16:17] <BluesKaj> sometimes the dvdrom needs rebooting , so...
[16:18] <ForgeAus> like ones where I wouldn't have minded so much if I didn't have a 300mb file downloading in the b/g thats halfway through or something
[16:20] <ForgeAus> I guess I could boot my Kubuntu in a VM and see what output I get running Xserver in there
[16:20] <ForgeAus> but thats not likely going to help since it doesn't use fglxr inside the VM
[16:20] <ForgeAus> does it?
[16:21] <payan> how can i disable an audio device???
[16:22] <ForgeAus> wb noaXess
[16:23] <noaXess> ForgeAus: no changes, after reboot..
[16:23] <ForgeAus> ok do you have any other DVD's to try it with?
[16:23] <noaXess> ForgeAus: i will try... wait..
[16:23] <ForgeAus> doy ou know if the one your trying has encryption or copy protection or something?
[16:25] <Matt_webber> hi
[16:25] <BluesKaj> noaXess, if it's a commercial dvd it should play , but you may need to use K9copy to burn it
[16:25] <ForgeAus> Blues I'd hope it plays but I'm not making any assumptions here
[16:26] <ScorpKing> hi BluesKaj :)
[16:26] <ForgeAus> since noaXess is saying his didn't, lets see if we can get one that does
[16:26] <BluesKaj> hi ScorpKing
[16:26] <ForgeAus> if not theres something else wrong and I don't think I can help any further
[16:26] <noaXess> ForgeAus: i think
[16:26] <noaXess> same
[16:26] <noaXess> way
[16:27] <ForgeAus> well unless BluesKaj or someone else has any better ideas I'm as lost as you are
[16:27] <slnoff> #ubuntu-ru
[16:27]  * ScorpKing catches on the conversation so far..
[16:28] <BluesKaj> noaXess, do cds play ?
[16:28] <noaXess> BluesKaj: jep
[16:28] <noaXess> i need to test another dvd..
[16:29] <Schuenemann> !chm[
[16:29] <Schuenemann> !chm
[16:29] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about chm[ - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[16:29] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about chm - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[16:30] <ScorpKing> Schuenemann: there's kchm
[16:30] <Schuenemann> thank
[16:30] <SlimeyPete> or xchm
[16:30] <Schuenemann> can't I convert it to a better format?
[16:30] <ForgeAus> probably
[16:31] <ScorpKing> there should be something to convert it to html but i'm not sure
[16:31] <ForgeAus> chm is mostly html like anyway
[16:31] <Schuenemann> just more stupid and MS
[16:31] <ForgeAus> basically html with an index
[16:31] <ScorpKing> noaXess: do you have w32codecs installed? and kubuntu-restricted-extras?
[16:32] <Schuenemann> there are some pages on google, I'll check
[16:32] <ForgeAus> lol Trav :)
[16:32] <TimS> Trav
[16:32] <ScorpKing> haha
[16:32] <ForgeAus> I had mIRC in crossover too :)
[16:32] <Schuenemann> I had mirc in wine
[16:33] <TimS> All version travkin :P
[16:33] <ForgeAus> crossover is wine ...
[16:33] <ForgeAus> with some extras
[16:33] <TimS> Konversation > * :P
[16:33] <ForgeAus> no directX tho
[16:33] <ForgeAus> or at least not to Cedega's calibre
[16:33] <ScorpKing> ForgeAus: so all crossover apps should run on wine as well?
[16:34] <ForgeAus> Scorp not sure I thought it was the reverse
[16:34] <ScorpKing> ah ok
[16:34] <ForgeAus> Crossover is Wine + extras, so all apps that work in  wine work in crossover, + a few more
[16:34] <ForgeAus> (its mostly optimized for Microsoft Office)
[16:35] <ForgeAus> not sure what does and doesn't work in it from what works in wine but I'd gather wine is less compatible than crossover
[16:35] <ScorpKing> yep, that's where crossover office comes from then
[16:35] <ForgeAus> plus it's handy that it installs stuff into the kmenu windows icons and all :)
[16:36] <BluesKaj> ScorpKing, good point about w32codecs and kubuntu-restricted-extras...I just assumed noaXess had them installed.
[16:36] <alinon> is there an easy to speed up the scroll wheel?
[16:36] <noaXess> ScorpKing, BluesKaj: will try that..
[16:36] <ScorpKing> BluesKaj: i have another saying about assumptions :P hehe
[16:36] <ForgeAus> alinon I think you can configure it in kcontrol (or system-settings)
[16:36] <alinon> i tried system settings but the scroll wheel isn't listed there
[16:36] <ForgeAus> just up how many lines it scrolls to make it scroll quicker???
[16:37] <alinon> yes forgeaus
[16:37] <ForgeAus> wow really? hmmm sounds like an oversite to me
[16:37] <ForgeAus> I would have assumed it'd be there
[16:37] <alinon> me too ;) i checked online to confirm others have noticed it's missing too
[16:37] <ForgeAus> alinon I'm sorry I don't know where it is then
[16:37] <alinon> this 1 line crap stinks
[16:37] <ScorpKing> alinon: the option is somewhere. the default is three lines i think
[16:38] <alinon> i'd like 6 please hehe =)
[16:38] <ForgeAus> I must confess I rarely use it
[16:38] <ForgeAus> but I like to have it functional since it can be handy
[16:38] <BluesKaj> yeah ScorpKing , I think i know what the saying is ...I think it begins with "never"  :)
[16:38] <alinon> i've spend the passed hour trying to find an answer, this was my last resort
[16:38] <ScorpKing> BluesKaj: i can pm it to you ;)
[16:38] <alinon> *spent
[16:39] <BluesKaj> sure
[16:39] <ForgeAus> alinon is it a version specific thing?
[16:39] <alinon> forgeaus: i'm not sure what you mean by that
[16:39] <ForgeAus> either an earlier KDE or Kubuntu may still have it available but thats a little extreme a solution
[16:40] <alinon> forgeaus: oh yeah i dunno, the 6+ versions i used had trouble using my mouse all together heh
[16:40] <ForgeAus> I'm certain I've seen one in Edgy and probably Feisty too, as for Gutsy or the new one (That starts with H) I don't know...
[16:40] <alinon> hardy heron haha
[16:40] <ForgeAus> what kind of mouse you got?
[16:41] <alinon> standard logitech wireless mouse
[16:41] <ForgeAus> usb? ps2? microsoft? logiech? noname?
[16:41] <ForgeAus> ok logitech wireless seems like it should be ok
[16:41] <alinon> yeah, it's showing up when i do a command to list usb
[16:41]  * ForgeAus shrugs
[16:42] <Schuenemann> I converted the chm with libchm_bin, but it doesn't look like there's a HTML with the frames
[16:42] <ForgeAus> sounds like just one of those things... I don't really know how to help you
[16:42] <ForgeAus> Schuen did it have content before you converted it? lol
[16:42] <alinon> little things like this is what keeps linux from hitting the main stream - because even the best distro's still can't keep the simple stuff simple haha
[16:42] <Schuenemann> ForgeAus, what do you mean?
[16:43] <ForgeAus> if it was an "empty" chm then of course theres going to be no (or blank) html in the frames
[16:43] <alinon> thank you much for help forgeaus
[16:43] <ForgeAus> but it sounds more likely that the conversion failed
[16:44] <ForgeAus> I don't know much about libchm_bin
[16:44] <Schuenemann> ForgeAus, I mean there isn't a file with the 2 frames, only the contents
[16:44] <ForgeAus> what happens if you click a contents link?
[16:45] <Schuenemann> it opens...
[16:45] <ForgeAus> isn't that waht its supposed to do?
[16:45] <ForgeAus> I'm confused
[16:45] <Schuenemann> sigh...
[16:45] <Schuenemann> heh
[16:45] <ForgeAus> thats how chm's normally work
[16:45] <Schuenemann> it's nice to have the indices in a frame to the left, don't you think?
[16:46] <ForgeAus> you click an index link it shows you the corresponding content
[16:46] <Schuenemann> you don't have any index
[16:46] <ForgeAus> Schuen yeah it'd be nicer
[16:46] <ForgeAus> but the conversion might not be smart enough to set it up in frames
[16:47] <Schuenemann> too bad
[16:47] <Schuenemann> it also generated a lot of non sense files
[16:47] <ForgeAus> if you want taht it shouldn't be too difficult to make one from that HTML file
[16:47] <Schuenemann> I guess so
[16:47] <rysiek|pl> guys, is there a way to input a UNICODE char using Alt + NumPad?
[16:47] <ForgeAus> just have a HTML editor copy the contents and link each heading
[16:47] <ForgeAus> into respective frames
[16:48] <ForgeAus> to much work tho uh?
[16:48] <Schuenemann> a program can do that
[16:48] <ForgeAus> in windows there is dunno about linux rys
[16:49] <ForgeAus> heeh Schu a chm glossary would be interesting to convert :)
[16:49] <rysiek|pl> ForgeAus: yeah, I know that on windoze it works
[16:49] <ForgeAus> <wicked evil grin>
[16:49] <BluesKaj> BBL , gotta reboot the router ...very slow today for some reason
[16:51] <ScorpKing> Schuenemann: i'm sure i've used a converter for linux before. no idea what it's called though. will see if i can find it on google
[16:52] <Schuenemann> ScorpKing, http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-convert-chm-files-to-html-or-pdf-files.html
[16:52] <Schuenemann> it's not exacly important though
[16:53] <ScorpKing> hm.. will take a look anyway. need to convert a few files myself
[16:53] <Schuenemann> how to add an entry to the bot?
[16:54] <Schuenemann> nevermind
[16:55] <rysiek|pl> ForgeAus: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alt_codes
[16:55] <ScorpKing> Schuenemann: might be usefull - http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=195457
[16:56] <ScorpKing> lol. same thing. nvm
[17:00] <Schuenemann> ScorpKing, yes heheh :-)
[17:00] <ScorpKing> Schuenemann: thanks for that link btw :D
[17:04] <fabio> posso chiedere aiuto?
[17:04] <ARES> Hello, I have the following function http://pastebin.com/d7dc971eb to get the user input and enforce it's a number in the specified interval (0.255), now I wish to add the default choice, so this function must return char(-1) if user just hits ENTER. Any suggestions?
[17:04] <ARES> Hello, I have the following function http://pastebin.com/d7dc971eb to get the user input and enforce it's a number in the specified interval (0.255), now I wish to add the default choice, so this function must return char(-1) if user just hits ENTER. Any suggestions?
[17:05] <g2g591> ARES: best place for bash function help -> #bash
[17:05] <fabio> ma ├© in inglese qui'
[17:05] <fabio> ??
[17:06] <ARES> g2g591, I'm not using any bash functions, lol
[17:06] <SlimeyPete> !it
[17:06] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese.  Nobody helped me
[17:07] <Daviey> ARES: Please don't call people _trying_ to help you a dumbass
[17:08] <g2g591> ARES: most of us here don't know **** about functions, especially C++ ones
[17:08] <Daviey> This could well be the reason you aren't recieving help in #c++
[17:08] <unagi> i wouldnt respond to ARES anymore
[17:08] <ru_> ARES: print out the value you get when you just press enter
[17:08] <ru_> and then test for it
[17:09] <BluesKaj> ARES, if you wan t to call ppl names and show your linux chops, then this isn't the room for you.
[17:10] <ARES> I need a hint how to force cin to handle #13 (0x0a) as needed. The command I need to know tests whether enter was hit or not.
[17:10] <Pici> ARES: You were already told to ask in ##c=
[17:10] <Pici> ARES: You were already told to ask in ##c++ when you were in #ubuntu.
[17:11] <Pici> It is an offtopic subject for this channel.
[17:11] <ARES> But I understand you cannot believe nobody in ##c++ told me any suggestion...
[17:11] <unagi> i can
[17:11] <Pici> ARES: That doesnt mean its suddenly okay to ask here.
[17:11] <ARES> THX anyway
[17:11] <unagi> i wouldnt even respond to you
[17:11] <g2g591> ARES: I can believe with your attitude
[17:11] <BluesKaj> i guess that's why you haven't found an answer ...do you read the responses ?
[17:12] <ARES> g2g591, I've never ever asked for something in c++, this is first-time I did
[17:12] <anlauf> is this the german forum?
[17:12] <llutz> !de | anlauf
[17:12] <ubotu> anlauf: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[17:12] <unagi> ............i dont even know what to make of that
[17:12] <Daisuke_Ido> well, you could check your textbook, or you could email your professor for help.
[17:13] <ARES> btw. have you compiled your kernel recently, g2g591 ?
[17:13] <g2g591> ARES: yeah, so?
[17:13] <Daisuke_Ido> we aren't doing your homework, ask in#c++ and improve your attitude around here
[17:13] <ARES> g2g591, I'm just checking if you know what is it kernel, lol.
[17:13] <unagi> i really hate this guy
[17:13] <Pici> !offtopic | ARES
[17:13] <ubotu> ARES: #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter.  Riddell, Tm_T, fdoving, Mez, stdin, jpatrick, seth_k, apokryphos, nalioth, Hobbsee, robotgeek, imbrandon, gnomefreak, Hawkwind, trappist, LjL, Jucato,  haggai, fooishbar, crimsun, seth, apokryphos, DBO, nixternal, PriceChild or jussi01!
[17:14] <Daisuke_Ido> this is ridiculous.
[17:14]  * g2g591 would /callvote mute ARES if he was playing Tremulous
[17:14] <ARES> stdin: Hi, can you please answer me two questions?
[17:14] <unagi> !abuse
[17:14] <ubotu> The people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[17:15] <nalioth> Daisuke_Ido: hi
[17:15] <Daisuke_Ido> greets nalioth.  got a minor troll problem :)
[17:15] <nalioth> let us be civil, please
[17:15] <jpatrick> !guidelines > ARES
[17:16]  * BluesKaj trolls for rainbow trout ...but this isn't the place :)
[17:16] <Daisuke_Ido> aye
[17:17] <ARES> I'm not a troll
[17:17]  * unagi bites his lip
[17:18] <nalioth> ARES: nobody has called any names. let us be civil
[17:19] <ARES> you're right nalioth, excuse me please. I'm sorry for that I called a GUI who confused C++ code with BASH scripting a dumbass
[17:19] <trappist> I don't think that counts as civility
[17:19] <ru_> i didn't even look at your code. now go learn programming
[17:20] <unagi> seemed like trolling to me
[17:20] <trappist> or adherence to language guidelines
[17:21] <ARES> ru_, go learn at least the difference between BASH and C++
[17:21] <Pici> Stop.
[17:23] <BluesKaj> heh, just goes to show when an immature 14yrold get's on mommy's pc , that a little knowledge can be a dangerous thing :)
[17:26] <jpatrick> BluesKaj: I was 14 when I first /join-ed this channel :-/
[17:26] <argos> hola ?
[17:26] <jpatrick> !es | argos
[17:26] <ubotu> argos: Si busca ayuda en espa├▒ol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es, all├Ł obtendr├Ī m├Īs ayuda.
[17:26] <argos> algun latino por aqui ?
[17:27] <BluesKaj> jpatrick, I'l bet you were somewhat more mature than this last individual tho :)
[17:39] <Schuenemann> !genesis
[17:39] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about genesis - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[17:40] <jpatrick> !msgthebot > Schuenemann
[17:43] <nyp4life> hello?
[17:43] <fireb0x> howdy
[17:44]  * g2g591 is here
[17:44] <nyp4life> hey hows it goin
[17:44] <nyp4life> is this room for support?
[17:44] <enzo44> how can i automatically activate the num pad when X starts ?
[17:44] <fireb0x> nyp4life: yes
[17:45] <nyp4life> nice.. ok im having a few problems.. i have no audio in kubuntu 7.10
[17:45] <fireb0x> ubotu: tell enzo44 about numlock
[17:45] <jpatrick> !sound | nyp4life
[17:45] <ubotu> nyp4life: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[17:45] <enzo44> thanks fireb0x
[17:45] <fireb0x> enzo44: no problem
[17:47] <nyp4life> k sound was enabled.. looking at community site now.. one more question
[17:47] <nyp4life> i have a problem with torrents..
[17:47] <nyp4life> i tried using kbittorrent, deluge, and some others i found thru synaptics
[17:47] <unagi> anyone know how to get an expresscard tv tuner to work with kubuntu?
[17:48] <unagi> i prefer ktorrent nyp4life
[17:48] <nyp4life> but after about 2-3 mins downloading, knetworkmanager kicks me off my wireless network
[17:48] <nyp4life> no matter what client i use
[17:48] <nyp4life> any ideas?
[17:49] <unagi> dont use knetworkmanager?
[17:50] <fireb0x> nyp4life: you sure it isn't your router settings?
[17:50] <fumanchu> find some logs about that... why you get kicked off
[17:50] <fireb0x> do you have a router that distributes bandwith?
[17:50] <nyp4life> i have a router yes
[17:51] <nyp4life> how do i get logs?
[17:51] <fireb0x> nyp4life: what model?
[17:51] <nyp4life> lol sorry but im COMPLETELY noob with linux
[17:52] <fireb0x> no problem, what model router do you have?
[17:52] <Mediapirate> whoooop  another linux noob hi 5 nyp4life
[17:52] <nyp4life> linksys wrt54gp2 router and realtek rtl8187l wifi card
[17:53] <nyp4life> lol yay noobs!! linux is fun but im getting frustrated when it dont go my way :P
[17:54] <fireb0x> nyp4life: it will NEVER go your way. Simply because you want to keep learning... and more learning means more mistakes and things you don't know yet, which leads to problems, frustration, divorce, and subsequently murder.
[17:54] <nyp4life> lol murder too?!?!
[17:54] <Daisuke_Ido> fireb0x: the hans reiser story, tonight on TNT.
[17:54] <fireb0x> nyp4life: thankfully you can apt-get install vicodin, which is helpful
[17:54] <fireb0x> Daisuke_LOL
[17:55] <fireb0x> Daisuke_Ido: LOL
[17:55] <Pici> !offtopic
[17:55] <ubotu> #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[17:55] <unagi> anyone know how to get an expresscard tv tuner to work with kubuntu?
[17:56] <fireb0x> ubotu: tell unagi about tv
[17:57] <Schuenemann> what the? I'm trying to install build-essential via apt-get and it asks to me to insert the kubuntu cd? Why that?
[17:58] <g2g591> Schuenemann: comment out the cd entry (add a # infront of it) in your /etc/apt/sources.list
[17:59] <nyp4life> i tried vicodin and got:
[17:59] <nyp4life> nyp4life@nyp4life-desktop:~$ sudo apt-get install vicodin
[17:59] <nyp4life> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[17:59] <nyp4life> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[18:00] <Jack_Sparrow> nyp4life: shut down the other running package manager
[18:00] <Schuenemann> nyp4life, you have adept open or something?
[18:00] <fireb0x> LOL
[18:01] <nyp4life> oops just noticed it on the other desktop
[18:01] <fumanchu> nyp4life, you can use only one package manager at a time
[18:01] <nyp4life> k now i got:
[18:01] <nyp4life> nyp4life@nyp4life-desktop:~$ sudo apt-get install vicodin
[18:01] <nyp4life> Reading package lists... Done
[18:01] <nyp4life> Building dependency tree
[18:01] <nyp4life> Reading state information... Done
[18:01] <nyp4life> E: Couldn't find package vicodin
[18:01] <fireb0x> nyp4life: i was just kidding about vicodin, sorry lol, i dont think vicodin is a package
[18:01] <nyp4life> nyp4life@nyp4life-desktop:~$
[18:01] <fireb0x> !pastebin
[18:01] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[18:01] <nyp4life> lmao yea it looked a little weird
[18:02] <fireb0x> nyp4life: it was part of the murder anecdote
[18:02] <nyp4life> figured
[18:02] <mneptok> what is a "nyp?"
[18:02] <Schuenemann> g2g591, I did that... then suddenly some updates appeared? ... linux-headers, linux-image, etc
[18:02] <nyp4life> NewYorkPimp
[18:03] <g2g591> Schuenemann: well, the stuff on the cd isn't all the latest version, bug fixes and stuff do happen
[18:03] <Schuenemann> g2g591, what does that line mean?
[18:04] <g2g591> Schuenemann: bug fixes are made after the cds are made too, those updates will download the newer fixed versions
[18:05] <Schuenemann> g2g591, I'm wondering why they appeared after I removed the line and did apt-get update
[18:05] <Giardo> hey someone can help me with the warrock installation (i'm italian)? :D
[18:05] <g2g591> Schuenemann: i don't know, i think apt be overtly in love with using cds
[18:05] <Daisuke_Ido> fireb0x: nicotine is an actual package
[18:06] <Schuenemann> =/
[18:07] <g2g591> Giardo: there is a kubuntu- (italy's country code) channel if english isn't your best language
[18:07] <fireb0x> Daisuke_Ido: lol, apt-get inhale nicotine
[18:08] <nyp4life> ok i got an audio pack from realtek website and the readme just says to run ./install so i did
[18:08] <nyp4life> got this: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/54737/
[18:08] <Giardo> i know g2g591 but no one can help me :D can you help me? i can't change the resolution of the screen when i open the game...
[18:09] <g2g591> nyp4life: sudo ./install
[18:09] <g2g591> Giardo: never played it actually...
[18:09] <nyp4life> does it matter that i was already in 'su'?
[18:09] <Giardo> but i can run and installl it!
[18:09] <Giardo> but i can't change the resolution!
[18:10] <g2g591> nyp4life: was there a # sign instead of a $ sign?
[18:10] <Schuenemann> nyp4life, sudo is just for that command
[18:10] <nyp4life> k
[18:10] <g2g591> Giardo: is the resolution out of game fine? or is it just in game?
[18:10] <g2g591> nyp4life: you su'ed to yourself
[18:10] <Giardo> just in the game
[18:10] <g2g591> nyp4life: you have to use sudo ./install
[18:11] <Giardo> when i use kubuntu normally is ok
[18:11] <g2g591> Giardo: well, i have no idea how to change resolution in that game
[18:11] <Giardo> but when i start warrock it's a mess
[18:11]  * g2g591 knows nothing about warrock
[18:11] <nyp4life> same thing: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/54738/
[18:13] <g2g591> nyp4life:  no, its slightly different , sudo apt-get install build-essential then try it
[18:13] <fireb0x> nyp4life: have you installed build-essentials?
[18:13] <nyp4life> nope.. will do
[18:13] <fireb0x> nyp4life: what g2g591 said
[18:13] <Giardo> thanks a lot
[18:13] <Giardo> bye!
[18:14] <Schuenemann> do I need sudo to run ./configure?
[18:14] <kaminix^> https://bugs.launchpad.net/gutsy-backports/+bug/187374 Doesn't that last comment mean it should be backported by now?
[18:14] <g2g591> Schuenemann: no, but you will for make install
[18:15] <Schuenemann> g2g591, it says access denied
[18:15] <g2g591> Schuenemann: thats an indication to use sudo then
[18:16] <g2g591> kaminix^: the status at the top of the page means its not, yet, but will be
[18:16] <Schuenemann> g2g591, is it sudo sh ./configure?
[18:16] <kaminix^> g2g591: Anyway to know around when?
[18:16] <g2g591> kaminix^: nope, not that i know
[18:16] <g2g591> Schuenemann: you can just do sudo ./configure
[18:16] <Schuenemann> g2g591, it says command not found
[18:17] <g2g591> Schuenemann: have you cd'ed into the directory with the configure script
[18:17] <Odd-rationale> How do I make kword the default word processor instead of OOwriter?
[18:17] <Jack_Sparrow> flash is in -proposed right now
[18:17] <Schuenemann> g2g591, I'm there...
[18:19] <g2g591> Schuenemann: are you sure??
[18:19] <g2g591> Odd-rationale: uninstall openoffice
[18:19] <Odd-rationale> g2g591: Thanks a lot...
[18:19] <Schuenemann> g2g591, of course... I'm not that dumb. And besides, it outputted permission denied without sudo.... it wouldn't if it didn't exist :-)
[18:20] <g2g591> Schuenemann: try sudo -i , then going to the directory and doing the configure and stuff
[18:20] <Firefishe> does Gutsy come with kde 4?>
[18:20] <g2g591> Firefishe: of course not
[18:20] <Odd-rationale> g2g591: Actually, I have considered that. But there has to be a better way.
[18:20] <g2g591> Firefishe: there is an option to go and install it after you install, but
[18:20] <Firefishe> g2g591: k.  I see, though, that it does come with Dolphin as a file manager?
[18:20] <g2g591> Firefishe: it comes with the kde 3x version of Dolphin
[18:20] <Schuenemann> g2g591, file or directory non-existent
[18:21] <Firefishe> g2g591: I was just kind of wondering...why?
[18:21] <nyp4life> k i tried again after installing build-essentials.. still no go
[18:21] <g2g591> Schuenemann: run ls to make sure it is there
[18:21] <Firefishe> Why eliminate konqueror as the standard kde file manager?
[18:21] <nyp4life> I WANT AUDIO!! lol
[18:21] <Schuenemann> g2g591, ls (after sudo -i) has nothing!
[18:21] <g2g591> Firefishe: you can make konqueror default easily after you install
[18:21] <g2g591> Schuenemann: you need to cd in to the directory again after you sudo -i
[18:22] <Firefishe> g2g591: I mean, the icon view command didn't even allow me to sort by type or kind
[18:22] <Schuenemann> g2g591, oh, I didn't realize it changed the directory. Anyway, I still get permission denied
[18:22] <Schuenemann> weird... and the prompt has ther sharp sign #
[18:23] <mneptok> Schuenemann: ls -la (do you see a configure command?)
[18:23] <g2g591> Schuenemann: try chmod +x configure
[18:23] <nyp4life> i tried amd64 and couldn't get things to work.. now im on i386, thinking it will be better.. still cant get things to work :(
[18:23] <Schuenemann> -rw-r--r-- 1 otto otto<PHONE_NUMBER>-05-22 09:02 configure
[18:23] <Schuenemann> there is no 'x'
[18:23] <g2g591> Schuenemann: try chmod +x configure then
[18:24] <mneptok> Schuenemann: chmod +x configure
[18:24] <Schuenemann> ok, now it's purple
[18:24] <mneptok> ./configure
[18:24] <Schuenemann> it says 'invalid interpreter'
[18:24] <mneptok> bash ./configure
[18:24] <g2g591> Schuenemann: try sh ./configure then
[18:25] <mneptok> g2g591: the fact he's using sh is the problem ;)
[18:25] <Schuenemann> 'bash ./configure' says there is an error on line 19?
[18:25] <Schuenemann> syntax error next to unexpected symbol: elif
[18:25] <mneptok> Schuenemann: then the confogure script is broken in some way. talk a developer about it.
[18:25] <Schuenemann> sigh
[18:26] <g2g591> Schuenemann: id say you have a wierd program
[18:26] <Schuenemann> I think my system is broken
[18:26] <g2g591> Schuenemann: what program is that anyway?
[18:26] <Schuenemann> it's gens (genesis emulator)
[18:27] <mneptok> Sega Genesis?
[18:27] <Schuenemann> yes, aka mega drive
[18:27] <mneptok> sudo apt-get install dgen
[18:27] <Schuenemann> dgen has no front end
[18:28] <Schuenemann> or it does?
[18:29] <Schuenemann> `elif test -n "${BASH_VERSION+set}" && (set -o posix) >/de'/null 2>&1; then
[18:34] <werner> greets
[18:40] <mrdlouisd> im trying to install a live dvd to my 4 gig pen drive, is there anyway of installing it? Or must i get a copy of a livecd? if so could i save that livecd to the pen drive i want to install to?
[18:42] <Daisuke_Ido> !persistant
[18:42] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about persistant - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[18:42] <hemanathan_hi> hi
[18:43] <hemanathan_hi> hi sir
[18:43] <hemanathan_hi> i need a help for browsing through konqueror
[18:43] <hemanathan_hi> is anyone there to help me
[18:44] <hemanathan> hi sir
[18:44] <BluesKaj> what is the problem , hemanathan?
[18:45] <hemanathan> i can't browse internet through konqueror i get an error mesage
[18:45] <hemanathan> now i'm using kubuntu konversation application but i couldn't browse
[18:46] <hemanathan> even i could download updates from kubuntu website
[18:46] <jereme> hemanathan: sounds like you have proxy or firewall issues.  what was the error konqueror gave you?
[18:46] <BluesKaj> hemanathan, were you able to browse previously ?
[18:47] <D4RIO> Men, i've upgraded from dapper to gutsy using dist-upgrade, but I've this problem:
[18:47] <D4RIO> E: Couldn't configure pre-depend python-central for python-apt, probably a dependency cycle.
[18:47] <D4RIO> can you tell me how to fix..?
[18:47] <Daisuke_Ido> you went *straight* from dapper to gutsy?
[18:47] <hemanathan> An error occurred while loading http://google.com/:
[18:47] <hemanathan> Could not connect to host http://google.com/.
[18:47] <hemanathan> these are error messages that i get
[18:47] <jereme> hemanathan: can you ping google.com from a terminal?
[18:48] <BluesKaj> err D4RIO , it's not adviseable to upgrade frpm dapper directly to gutsy
[18:48] <maroo> hello, is there a way to restrict memory usage of applications? i tried settings /etc/security/limits.conf memlock/rss/data but that does not seem to have any effect
[18:48] <BluesKaj> unless it's a clean install, D4RIO
[18:48] <hemanathan> anyone help me ya
[18:49] <D4RIO> BluesKaj: And what can i do now?
[18:49] <|Dreams|> is there any way to completely reset the network settings to factory without reinstalling kubuntu?
[18:49] <hemanathan> yes i could ping google from terminal i could even download kubuntu updates but i can't browse
[18:50] <BluesKaj> D4RIO, sorry , that's beyond my expertise
[18:52] <ScorpKing> hemanathan: how do you connect to the internet? dialup?
[18:52] <D4RIO> ops
[18:52] <D4RIO> I've a big problem here...
[18:52] <D4RIO> houston!!
[18:52] <hemanathan> scorpking : yes dial up only
[18:53] <BluesKaj> hemanathan, open konqueror /settings/configure view profile /click on web browsing , save , then close konqueror , try browsing again
[18:53] <ScorpKing> hemanathan: and do you use you local network?
[18:53] <ScorpKing> BluesKaj: it's knetworkmanager not setting a default gateway because eth0 is down
[18:54] <hemanathan> blueskaj: i tried by saving profile but then i couldn't
[18:54] <jussi01> D4RIO: how did you upgrade? directly form dapper- gutsy? or via feisty
[18:54] <D4RIO> dapper gutsy
[18:54] <hemanathan> scorpking: no i don;t use
[18:55] <jussi01> D4RIO: then you have likely broken something, as the correct upgrade path is only 1 release at a time.
[18:55] <ScorpKing> hemanathan: ok. close knetworkmanager and try again
[18:55] <BluesKaj> ScorpKing, he's able to ping google ..dialup must be connected
[18:55] <hemanathan> scorpking: how to close knetworkmanager i;m new to linux
[18:55] <ScorpKing> BluesKaj: i use dialup and have the same problem. it took me weeks to figure out
[18:56] <ScorpKing> hemanathan: right click on the network icon in the system tray and select quit
[18:57] <D4RIO> if i do a dist-upgrade to feisty now... can I resolve my broken packages?
[18:57] <BluesKaj> ok ScorpKing , "dialupking" it is :)
[18:57] <hemanathan> scorpking: yes it's working thank you very much
[18:57] <ScorpKing> BluesKaj: the problem is that knetworkmanager does not support dialup. there are patches available
[18:58] <hemanathan> scorpking: i've many doubts regarding linux can you help me
[18:58] <ScorpKing> hemanathan: i can try
[18:58] <BluesKaj> D4RIO, dapper>edgy>feisty>gutsy
[18:59] <g2g591> D4RIO: but because you already skiped, i think you're pretty screwed
[18:59] <hemanathan> when i start kppp and connect it shows as connected at 2 what it means
[18:59] <hemanathan> scorpking: when i start kppp and connect it shows as connected at 2 what it means
[19:00] <D4RIO> oh yes
[19:00] <ScorpKing> hemanathan: 2 what? i don't use kppp btw. what modem do you have?
[19:00] <D4RIO> edgy too
[19:01] <hemanathan> scorpking: i'm connecting dial up using mobile through bluetooth
[19:02] <ScorpKing> hemanathan: oh ok. not sure what that means. i use a usb cable. it seems to be faster
[19:03] <hemanathan> scorpking: here in india rural i could get only maximum of 40 kilo bits per sec
[19:03] <miladen> Ey does any1 know where my drive_c is located?
[19:03] <viermaalj> ~/.wine
[19:03] <D4RIO> E: Error, pkgProblemResolver::Resolve generated breaks, this may be caused by held packages.
[19:03] <miladen> viermaalj doesnt work
[19:03] <ScorpKing> hemanathan: yeah that's slow
[19:04] <g2g591> miladen: in wine ? or what
[19:04] <miladen> yes
[19:04] <BluesKaj> miladen, system menu/storage media
[19:04] <hemanathan> scorpking : how much do you get
[19:04] <miladen> BluesKaj i dont have one of those
[19:04] <g2g591> miladen: you're wine drive c is in ~/.wine/drive_c
[19:04] <g2g591> your*
[19:04] <hemanathan> scorpking: here we are using 2.5 g network thats why no edge nor 3g
[19:04] <D4RIO> Oh no! i've to re-re-re-re-re-reinstall my system! . . . XDXDXD
[19:05] <viermaalj> miladen, /home/miladen/.wine/drive_c
[19:05] <g2g591> D4RIO: or you could jsut download a gutsy cd
[19:05] <kreib> is it possible to install xp on an extended partition?
[19:05] <ScorpKing> hemanathan: sometimes 375KB/s download on 3g
[19:05] <miladen> oh ok
[19:05] <hemanathan> scorpking: fine
[19:06] <D4RIO> I've feisty but ...
[19:06] <hemanathan> scorpking: may i know your mail id for contact so that i can contact through mails if any doubt
[19:07] <ScorpKing> hemanathan: see your private msg
[19:07] <BluesKaj> kreib, no it has to be NTFS
[19:08] <D4RIO> it does'nt boot
[19:08] <D4RIO> I've 256 mb of RAM
[19:08] <BluesKaj> kreib, a seperate logical partition
[19:08] <D4RIO> can I get an alternate-install cd
[19:08] <D4RIO> ?
[19:09] <ScorpKing> yes
[19:09] <ScorpKing> D4RIO: the alternate will install with 256mb ram but xubuntu runs a lot faster
[19:09] <g2g591> D4RIO: alternate-install just has a text (dos-ish) installer (not the whole "live" environment)
[19:10] <D4RIO> I know ┬¼┬¼
[19:10] <D4RIO> I've installed a lot of systems in text mode
[19:11] <D4RIO> but never upgraded one
[19:11] <hemanathan> scorpking: i;ve done something what is that
[19:11] <miladen> crap even with wine Portrait professional fucks up
[19:11] <jussi01> !ohmy
[19:11] <ubotu> Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[19:11] <miladen> im sorry
[19:11] <miladen> excuse me people :(
[19:12] <jussi01> miladen: what does portrait do?
[19:12] <BluesKaj> miladen have you tried gimpshop
[19:12] <kreib> BluesKaj; thx. if I create a new logical partition, I can make it ntfs?
[19:12] <miladen> retouches facial pictures for you
[19:12] <BluesKaj> kreib, yes
[19:12] <miladen> BluesKaj yeah but hate it, ive installed photoshop, but Portrait professional does it like in 4 clicks :)
[19:13] <kreib> ok, but it will insall to the MRB I guess, and I can't boot to kubuntu no more?
[19:13] <BluesKaj> kreib , create the NTFS partition in front of the ext/linux ... it'll be easier for you
[19:14] <Drekky> hello
[19:14] <kreib> yeah, I know. but the ext/linux is already there
[19:14] <BluesKaj> kreib, you don't have to overwrite kubuntu to do it
[19:14] <miladen> is there other apps than wine thats runs wintendo apps better?
[19:15] <kreib> ok. thx
[19:15] <BluesKaj> kreib, what partition editor are you using ?
[19:16] <g2g591> miladen: nope, wine is the best we have, but it will improve, then will start sucking again after the changes windows 7 brings
[19:16] <kreib> None, just manually, why?
[19:16] <miladen> windows 7?
[19:16] <g2g591> miladen: the version after vista
[19:16] <miladen> where can i read about windows 7?
[19:17] <maroo> miladen: not really, there is crossover office and cedega that have a couple of improvements over the normal wine but both are commercial
[19:17] <BluesKaj> kreib, manually, are you in kubuntu ?
[19:17] <kreib> yes
[19:17] <jussi01> !windows | miladen
[19:17] <ubotu> miladen: For discussion and help with Microsoft Windows, please visit ##windows. See http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm and /msg ubotu equivalents
[19:17] <g2g591> miladen: theres some rumors and stuff on zdnet
[19:17] <miladen> ok
[19:17] <sporkin_a> so anyone in here know how to get the speakers on a toshiba tecra a8 to work
[19:17] <BluesKaj> kreib, how are you editing the partitions ?
[19:18] <g2g591> BluesKaj: im guessing fdisk
[19:18] <kreib> directly from the windows install cd
[19:18] <BluesKaj> oooh...
[19:18] <kreib> when installing
[19:18] <BluesKaj> not a good idea , kreib
[19:18] <kreib> why?
[19:18] <BluesKaj> it won't see ext/linux
[19:18] <fireb0x> alright, im in KDE 4, and I accidentally deleted the part of my task bar where open programs reside, anyone know how to get this back?
[19:19] <kreib> tried gparted once, but wasn't impressed
[19:19] <g2g591> kreib: qtparted ?
[19:19] <kreib> no it won't. but it will se the partitions, thats all you need
[19:19] <miladen> does whotoshop have a channel?
[19:20] <BluesKaj> gparted is excellent , it'll save your existing ext/linux and make a windows partition if you shrink the ext / linux one
[19:20] <g2g591> miladen: cs 1 /cs 2 work good with wine, not things later
[19:20] <kreib> perhaps it was qtparted, don't remeber
[19:20] <g2g591> kreib: gparted is pretty good, qtparted sorta sucks
[19:21] <nuno> !shockwave
[19:21] <ubotu> Shockwave is currently only available for Windows. To run it under !Wine, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Shockwave
[19:21] <BluesKaj> gparted is a live bootable cd that you download and burn , run it as a live cd and you can do what is needed
[19:21] <kreib> ok. thx , perhaps ill give it another try
[19:22] <BluesKaj> !Gparted | kreib
[19:22] <ubotu> kreib: GParted is a !GUI partitioning program. Type ┬½ sudo apt-get install gparted ┬╗ in a console to install it - A GParted "live" CD is available at http://gparted-livecd.tuxfamily.org/
[19:24] <_prefect> as a C/C++ programmer, I must say I find the use of an exclamation mark in this place highly confusing ;)
[19:27] <BluesKaj> _prefect, it's the botscript prompter
[19:29] <adam_> Is there anything like Adobe Pagemaker for us to use?  I have openoffice...
[19:29] <ScorpKing> nite guys.
[19:29] <miladen> does shotoshop have a channel here in IRC?
[19:29] <_prefect> BluesKaj: I know, and it is logical and everything - so not saying that it's bad or anything. It just caused me to pause for a second - kind of a stumble of the mind ;)
[19:30] <jussi01> adam_: what is pagemaker for?
[19:30] <BluesKaj> miladen, i'm sure there's aphotoshop room some where , but dunno about this server
[19:30] <adam_> It lets you arrange/draw/write lines, separators, text, collumns... Think an app for making pamphlets 8)
[19:30] <adam_> jussi01: ^^
[19:31] <jussi01> !info scribus | adam_
[19:31] <hemanathan> k  guys bye
[19:31] <ubotu> adam_: scribus (source: scribus): Open Source Desktop Page Layout - developmental branch. In component main, is optional. Version <IP_ADDRESS>.dfsg-1ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 8968 kB, installed size 26232 kB
[19:31] <chowner> ey , there is a problem with the updates, how do you apt-get clean from the GUI?
[19:31] <adam_> jussi01: That should do, thank you!
[19:31] <chowner> I selected YES and it crashes
[19:32] <chowner> er , apt-get check
[19:32] <chowner> not clean , lol
[19:32] <chowner> no ! all my pkgs, hehe
[19:33] <chowner> ok, where do I ask questions / about Adept?
[19:34] <nuno> !msn
[19:34] <ubotu> Instant Messenger Client Kopete (http://kopete.kde.org) is supporting MSN, Jabber, AIM, Gadu-Gadu, Novell Groupwise, ICQ and IRC. See also !gaim
[19:34] <chowner> !adept
[19:34] <nuno> nice
[19:34] <ubotu> adept is the Kubuntu package manager. Howto: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AdeptHowto
[19:34] <nuno> this bot is excellent
[19:34] <chowner> https , ?
[19:34] <nuno> Yeah
[19:35] <adam_> I have the nvidia drivers installed, but even simple desktop effects are slow (even resizing and such); and I have a 6800 Ultra!  Any thoughts/known things i might have overlooked?
[19:35] <jussi01> adam_: how did you enable them?
[19:36] <nuno> !ragnarok
[19:36] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ragnarok - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[19:37] <nuno> Anyone knows how can i play ragnarok in kubuntu?
[19:37] <adam_> jussi01: I used envy...  I do get the nvidia logo, too, before the splash screen
[19:38] <jussi01> !envy | adam_
[19:38] <ubotu> adam_: envy is not needed or supported. Use the Resticted Manager to install binary drivers and see ┬½ /msg ubotu binarydriver ┬╗
[19:38] <jussi01> adam_: not a good idea.
[19:38] <trappist> adam_: there's a bugfix kernel package, just came out today, that's supposed to fix an nvidia memory leak
[19:39] <enzo> i'de like to launch firefox, which command should i launch ?
[19:39] <adam_> jussi01: Oh yeah?  I actually used envy because I was having the same issue with the restricted drivers...  Then I had a massive failure trying to use the binary on NVidia's site, so I tried envy and it seems to be restored to the point that it was at before I started fooling with it, hehe
[19:39] <trappist> enzo: firefox
[19:40] <adam_> trappist: Oh nice!  How do I install that?  Just with aptitude, I presume?  Do you know the name of the package?
[19:40] <chowner> apt-get install firefox
[19:40] <chowner> lol
[19:40] <nuno> sudo
[19:40] <nuno> xD
[19:40]  * chowner gonna go rape the konsole now
[19:40] <chowner> oops
[19:40] <chowner> yea
[19:40] <chowner> sudo
[19:40] <chowner> sudo apt-get install firefox
[19:40] <chowner> WHEEE
[19:40] <nuno> sudo apt-get install firefox
[19:40] <nuno> xD
[19:40] <enzo> thanks trappist
[19:40] <jussi01> !enter | chowner
[19:40] <ubotu> chowner: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[19:41] <enzo> FF 3 is stable enough or not ?
[19:41] <chowner> yeah Im gonna punctuate my terminal . ciao!
[19:41] <trappist> adam_: sudo apt-get update;sudo apt-get dist-upgrade - make sure you have the security repo enabled in your sources.list
[19:44] <adam_> trappist: Doesn't dist-upgrade upgrade me from Gutsy to... well, gutsy?  I remember seeing somewhere, too, that a distro upgrade will kill my envy install, hehe
[19:45] <trappist> adam_: if you upgrade your kernel and you're using envy drivers, yeah, you'll need to rerun envy
[19:45] <shingoki> yeah why does everyone always put dist-upgrade in instructions, does it actually do anything useful?
[19:45] <Odd-rationale> Where is the character map so that I can inpuut special characters?
[19:46] <trappist> shingoki: some packages won't get upgraded with a regular ole upgrade.  I think kernel is one of them.
[19:46] <adam_> trappist: Okay.  This would be a good time to revert to the restricted driver instead 8)  Getting the update now, thanks!  Where do you hear news like that?  I never would have known there was an update available...
[19:46] <shingoki> trappist: ah that's useful, I hate upgrading kernel :)
[19:46] <trappist> adam_: this time I heard it from a guy I work with who just spent his whole weekend doing research and tweaking his new ubuntu install
[19:47] <nuno> How can i install KDE 4 on gutsy? is it possible?
[19:47] <adam_> trappist: Ooh, gotcha.  Methinks I'm gonna go find a good ubuntu news rss feed
[19:47] <adam_> nuno: It is, I'm doing it
[19:47] <vlt> Hello. I have an IBM Laptop running Ubuntu 7.10 with a cdrom drive in a docking station. Sometimes when connecting the laptop to the station the cdrom is recognized and I can access it, sometimes it's not -- and rebooting is the only way I know to enable it. Any idea how to access the drive w/o rebooting?
[19:47] <adam_> nuno: Check out kubuntu.org, on the front page they have simple instructions
[19:47] <nuno> adam_: Okay
[19:48] <jpatrick> !kde4 > nuno
[19:48] <trappist> adam_: well what I heard about this morning was an upstream change in linux, then I saw there was an update to the ubuntu kernel, looked in the git tree and saw that it fixes this issue
[19:48] <nuno> A package?!
[19:48] <shingoki> trappist: Which hardware are you having trouble with?
[19:49] <trappist> shingoki: I'm not having any trouble :)  I'm just trying to help
[19:49] <adam_> Upstream change?  As in, debian?  And I presume a git tree is, like, a change log?
[19:49] <nuno> Hm... and is KDE4 compatible with Compiz Fusion?
[19:49] <shingoki> trappist: ah ok :) Then which hardware is someone else having trouble with? ;)
[19:49] <trappist> adam_: upstream as in kernel.org, and the git tree is the source repository ubuntu's using for kernel source
[19:49] <trappist> shingoki: nvidia card
[19:49] <Odd-rationale> nuno: Yes.
[19:50] <nuno> <_ Nice
[19:50] <shingoki> trappist: ah right. Proprietary driver all the way!
[19:50] <Odd-rationale> nuno: In fact, they plan to make it easier to enable compiz. Something similar to ubuntu's
[19:50] <lanzelloth> quick question: how do i add/remove things from the bar at the bottom
[19:50] <adam_> nuno: In my first install I had CF running when I started KDE4 for the first time.  It didn't last very long, only because I wanted to see the pure KDE4... But I didn't have any apparent problems for that first couple hours...
[19:50] <lanzelloth> i removed my window switcher
[19:51] <jussi01> lanzelloth: right click - add to panel
[19:51] <g2g591> #kubuntu-kde4
[19:51] <lanzelloth> jussi01:  that doesn't work (i'm in kde4)
[19:51] <adam_> lanzelloth: I presume you're using kde4? Other wise it would be intued how to achieve that 8) #kubuntu-kde4 ... But, click on add widget, and drag and drop the task manager or whatnot into the tile bar
[19:52] <Odd-rationale> nuno: http://www.kdedevelopers.org/node/3224
[19:52] <jussi01> lanzelloth: ok, kde4 support in #kubuntu-kde4
[19:53] <Odd-rationale> How do I input special characters?
[19:55] <lanzelloth> adam_: thx
[19:55] <enzo> i'm using french mirror of ubuntu.com: fr.archive.ubuntu.com, but it's lagging a lot, is it normal ?
[19:55] <adam_> lanzelloth: any time!
[19:56] <lanzelloth> adam_: how do you move the bar to the left (vertical)?
[19:56] <nuno> Well... Hardy comes with kde4 right?
[19:56] <jussi01> lanzelloth: please make sure you ask kde4 questions in #kubuntu-kde4
[19:57] <g2g591> nuno: Hardy will have a kde4 release AND a kde 3 release
[19:58] <KaSho> holas
[19:58] <KaSho> he
[19:58] <KaSho> anybody here
[19:58] <jussi01> yes
[19:58] <jpatrick> !es | KaSho
[19:58] <ubotu> KaSho: Si busca ayuda en espa├▒ol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es, all├Ł obtendr├Ī m├Īs ayuda.
[19:59] <KaSho> anybody can download in thi url ftp.digium.com/pub/asterisk/
[19:59]  * g2g591 is able to understand ubotu's spanish message (almost completely)
[20:00] <jpatrick> g2g591: /join #kubuntu-es then ;)
[20:00] <KaSho> jeje
[20:00] <KaSho> ok
[20:00] <g2g591> im only half way done with Spanish 2
[20:00] <g2g591> Kasho i get cannot connect to host on that url
[20:01] <Squee__x> hey O.o
[20:01] <g2g591> jpatrick: once i get into spanish 3 for a while, then i think ill be able to understand them, better
[20:07] <peaches> what do i need to get a webcam working besides the kernel driver being loaded?
[20:09] <ahmos> Hi, I have a problem with xsensors..can anybody help me plz?
[20:09] <tekteen> !ask | ahmos
[20:09] <ubotu> ahmos: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[20:10] <ahmos> ok ,when I open it i have a blank window
[20:10] <ahmos> I tried sensors-detect but noway
[20:10] <jussi01> !sensors | ahmos
[20:10] <ubotu> ahmos: You might find something useful at: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SensorInstallHowto
[20:16] <ahmos> sorry,but i've installed lm-sensors..so where i can find it's source?!
[20:20] <sub[t]rnl> ahmosŌ×£ the source code for the application?
[20:21] <niss_> any news of truecrypt gui for kubuntu
[20:21] <BluesKaj> ahmos,why not try ksensors in adept
[20:22] <ahmos> I tried it but the same problem
[20:22] <sub[t]rnl> ahmosŌ×£ sudo apt-get source lmarbles?
[20:22] <sub[t]rnl> err, lm-sensors
[20:23] <g2g591> err sub[t]rnl you don't need sudo to download the source
[20:23] <ahmos> I've typed your code sub
[20:23] <jussi01> sub[t]rnl: shouldnt need the sudo there
[20:23] <sub[t]rnl> righto
[20:23] <jussi01> sub[t]rnl: in fact the sudo may mees up perms onthe source you downloaded
[20:23] <sub[t]rnl> ahmosŌ×£ if thats what your wanting.  If your just wanting to list the contents of the package, use dpkg -L
[20:24] <sub[t]rnl> jussi01Ō×£ not messed up, but yeah, it changes them to root
[20:24] <hasan> aaaaa
[20:24] <ahmos> it is not what i'm waiting but I try any code i see now :D
[20:25] <ubuntu> alguem do brasil por aqui:?
[20:25] <jussi01> hasan: can we help?
[20:25] <jussi01> !br | ubuntu
[20:25] <ubotu> ubuntu: Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt para ajuda em portugu├¬s. Obrigado.
[20:26] <ahmos> how i can do this..
[20:26] <ahmos> Install the following packages lm-sensors (see InstallingSoftware).
[20:26] <ahmos> Run the mkdev.sh script in the lm-sensors source. It is extracted below:
[20:26] <ahmos> Copy the script file below to a text editor and save it to a file named mkdev.sh.
[20:27] <ahmos> i've installed the package
[20:27] <ahmos> so where to run mkhdev.sh?
[20:27] <sub[t]rnl> save the script to a file, mkdev.sh.  Then chmod u+x mkdev.sh && ./mkdev.sh
[20:28] <sub[t]rnl> or 	sh mkdev.sh
[20:28] <ahmos> let's see
[20:28] <sub[t]rnl> came in kind of late, whats wrong with the package in the repo's anywho?
[20:31] <nuno> Which one is better to use as MSN? Kopete or aMSN?
[20:31] <sub[t]rnl> !best > nuno
[20:31] <nuno> Lol
[20:31] <nuno> Thanks...
[20:32] <Flare183> !lol > nuno
[20:32] <tekteen> I like pidgin the best. then kopete. kopete is the "official" im
[20:36] <ubuntu_> italy
[20:36] <jussi01> !it | ubuntu_
[20:36] <ubotu> ubuntu_: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[20:36] <jussi01> gah
[20:37] <bitmonster> can anyone help me to configure my ati radeon 7500 mobile for dual head usage?
[20:38] <jussi01> bitmonster: running the fglrx driver?
[20:38] <kubuntu-it> italy language
[20:38] <jussi01> !it | kubuntu-it
[20:38] <ubotu> kubuntu-it: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[20:38] <ahmos> I can't do this step Then, run /etc/init.d/module-init-tools..so how?
[20:39] <bitmonster> jussi01: does not work :-(
[20:39] <kubuntu-it> e come si fa?
[20:40] <Flare183> !it > kubuntu-it
[20:40] <Goop2> is there a kopete plugin to block a contact?
[20:41] <kubuntu-it> it
[20:41] <bitmonster> jussi01: do you have another idea?
[20:41] <Goop2> preferably something with a big panic button for satisfaction?
[20:42] <bitmonster> jussi01: completely disparate :-(
[20:43] <jussi01> bitmonster: wait a sec
[20:44] <reagleBRKLN> i'm using Kubuntu 7.10 with KDE 3.5.8, I can't see the non-ascii characters on this page for example properly (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phonetic_transcription). Am I missing a package?
[20:45] <mefisto__> I'm trying to figure out where kdm (login screen) gets its screen resolution from. From what I've read, this should be set in xorg.conf. I've removed every res except 1280x1024 in xorg.conf, but kdm still displays at 1024x768
[20:46] <enry> hello
[20:46] <nekomimi> hello world
[20:46] <nekomimi> ...
[20:46] <jussi01> mefisto__: try removing the "virtual" line
[20:49] <mefisto__> jussi01: still the same
[20:51] <mefisto__> the odd thing is that if I log out, kdm displays in 1280x1024 (what I want on startup)
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[20:52] <cWolfe> felipe fignew firephoto Flare183 flatface flokuehn ForgeAus frank23 freakyy freqmod_nx fumanchu g2g591 galathalion gangien gene genii gladier gnetmax Goop2 grandi Greenery Greeny_ grul gt GTM guest guest_ guest__ Gunirus hagabaka hansen hanzz_ harmental hasan Hc\\ hcbox Hirvinen hoisn holycow Hoyt humor hydrogen ibou icewaterman igno inaety__ iNiku_ internat85 IRSeekBot J4t jackster jalbert jessy_james jhutchins jhutchins_wk jimmy51
[20:52] <Flare183> wtf
[20:52] <Flare183> sorry
[20:52] <Gunirus> **!R7┬¦$7*E*
[20:52] <jussi01> !abrn cWolfe
[20:52] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about abrn cwolfe - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[20:52]  * bmk789 smells the banhammer coming
[20:52] <jackster> wha?
[20:52] <Flare183> yeah
[20:52] <Flare183> yeap*
[20:52] <genii> Likely some bot
[20:53] <bitmonster> do you have an idea what's wrong with this xorg.conf file: http://ubuntuusers.de/paste/34241/
[20:53] <bitmonster> if i uncomment the commented paragraphs, xserver only starts with low resolution
[20:55] <g2g591> bitmonster: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[20:55] <bitmonster> with the uncommented paragraphs?
[20:56] <Daisuke_Ido> little multimonitor fun-ness
[20:56] <g2g591> bitmonster: it doesn't matter, (i dont think)
[20:56] <Daisuke_Ido> i think i'll stay away from that one, i never could get it working properly
[20:57] <nekomimi> Long live IRC
[20:57] <genii> There seems to be a few syntax errors in it. But I feel like Daisuke_Ido and don't care to mess with it
[20:57] <mefisto__> bitmonster: line 61 looks like there's a " (quote) missing
[20:58] <bitmonster> mefisto__: line 61 is commented as well
[20:59] <vlt> Hello. I have an IBM Laptop running Ubuntu 7.10 with a cdrom drive in a docking station. Sometimes when connecting the laptop to the station the cdrom is recognized and I can access it, sometimes it's not -- and rebooting is the only way I know to enable it. Any idea how to access the drive w/o rebooting?
[20:59] <genii> Should there be sub entries of       Screen 0          under the videocard stanza for instance? (line 69)
[20:59] <nekomimi> I have installed guarddog, and set up the rules. But i can't get smtp to work any ideas ?
[21:00] <mefisto__> bitmonster: you said if you uncomment you get low res.
[21:01] <bitmonster> ah I see .. I only uncomment the last paragraphs (2nd screen etc)
[21:02] <tekteen> nekomimi: when I tried to install gdog my computer would not allow anyone but root to get to the inster net :-)
[21:03] <nekomimi> Ok
[21:03] <nekomimi> but everythig is working fine but the smtp...(SAD)
[21:05] <accursed> heloo
[21:05] <tekteen> hi
[21:05] <accursed> hihi
[21:06] <accursed> Ch┼éopacy?
[21:06] <nekomimi> hihi?
[21:06] <jeisma> I just downloaded the tar.gz file for flash from adobe onto kubuntu
[21:06] <jeisma> how do i untar and install flash?
[21:06] <tekteen> !flash
[21:06] <ubotu> To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash (for !Dapper and !Edgy, a recent version is available in !backports) - See also !Restricted and !Gnash - The Flash package is currently BROKEN, see ┬½ /msg ubotu FlashIssues ┬╗
[21:07] <jeisma> If a download stalls, how do you resume it?
[21:07] <bitmonster> mefisto__: do you have other ideas?
[21:08] <nekomimi> jeisma: what program are you using
[21:08] <nekomimi> ?
[21:08] <jeisma> nekomimi Im just downloading something from a website
[21:08] <jeisma> nekomimii no particular program I think, just whatever is standard when you download from a link? i'm not sure
[21:09] <mefisto__> bitmonster: I would save what you have under different name, then try "sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg" to create a new xorg.conf. maybe comparing the old with the new will tell you something
[21:09] <nekomimi> jeisma firefox kget ?
[21:10] <mefisto__> bitmonster: I'm no expert with configuring xserver, I'm having my own probs with it atm
[21:10] <jeisma> nekomimi get firefox you mean? i just tried to through adept but it said something about there may be a break in packages and it stopped..
[21:11] <jpatrick> 2
[21:12] <nekomimi> jeisma kget is a download manager for kde
[21:12] <bitmonster> mefisto__: ok, thank you anyway
[21:12] <nekomimi> jeisma or are you just useing konqerior ?
[21:12] <jeisma> nekomimi im just using konqueror cause i can't get firefox for some reason
[21:13] <jeisma> im trying to get into adept again and its giving me this message
[21:13] <jeisma> Another process is using the packaging system database (probably some other Adept application or apt-get or aptitude).
[21:13] <jeisma> how do i fix this?
[21:13] <jeisma> when i click yes, adept crashes
[21:13] <nekomimi> jeisma open a terminal and type sudo apt-get install firefox if you are using ubuntu based
[21:13] <bitmonster> mefisto__: now it only has one screen left (despite the uncommented lines)
[21:14] <jeisma> im using kubuntu
[21:14] <nekomimi> jeisma sudo apt-get install firefox
[21:14] <nekomimi> test i think i will work
[21:14] <jussi01> !adeptfix | jeisma
[21:14] <ubotu> jeisma: If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: ┬½ sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a ┬╗
[21:14] <nekomimi> ok
[21:15] <nyp4life> hey all
[21:16] <jeisma> dpkg: error processing gconf2-common (--configure):
[21:16] <jeisma>  Package is in a very bad inconsistent state - you should
[21:16] <jeisma>  reinstall it before attempting configuration.
[21:16] <jeisma> what should i do about that nekomimi
[21:16] <nyp4life> can anybody help me with a wifi issue? or maybe its a torrent issue?
[21:16] <nyp4life> every time i use a torrent client (currently ktorrent) i get kicked off my wireless network after about 2-3 mins
[21:16] <nekomimi> nyp4life: ok
[21:17] <nekomimi> i don't know
[21:17] <nyp4life> same happened with deluge n some others from adept
[21:17] <nyp4life> when im not using a client the connection is fine
[21:18] <nyp4life> ..is this a normal problem?
[21:18] <nekomimi> nyp4life: its problebly not the client thats wrong
[21:18] <nyp4life> yea i dont think its client-specific either
[21:18] <khelll> is there a visual tool to zip/unzip files?
[21:18] <nekomimi> nyp4life: you are using a wireless router does it have a config thats reject the torrent protocol
[21:19] <nekomimi> khell ARK
[21:19] <mefisto__> nyp4life: try changing the port ktorrent uses to a higher number. (just guessing your isp might be blocking commonly used ports)
[21:19] <nekomimi> nyp4life:  yeah thats right
[21:19] <nyp4life> how do i check that? i changed the port to 50055 already thinking it would work
[21:19] <nekomimi> khelll sudo apt-get install ark
[21:20] <nekomimi> its good
[21:20] <khelll> yes thanks
[21:20] <nyp4life> i was using utorrent on winxp just fine
[21:20] <nyp4life> and firefox works perfectly here in kubuntu when im not dl/ul torrents
[21:20] <jussi01> If I install a -docs package, where do the docs go?
[21:21] <stdin> jussi01: usually in /usr/share/docs, but dpkg -L would tell you
[21:21] <nyp4life> i dont think i can make a full transition to linux if i cant get this figured out.. :(
[21:22] <g2g591> nyp4life: try installing utorrent in wine
[21:22] <shoken> bonsoir
[21:22] <mefisto__> nyp4life: is ktorrent using the same port no. as utorrent in windows?
[21:22] <nyp4life> ive heard wine is buggy.. ill do that if there's no other solution but is there any other way
[21:23] <shoken> des francais ici ?
[21:23] <g2g591> nyp4life: utorrent works fine in wine, wine doesn't do well with other apps
[21:23] <nyp4life> yea should i try a different port?
[21:23] <stdin> !fr | shoken
[21:23] <ubotu> shoken: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[21:23] <mefisto__> nyp4life: no, if that port works in utorrent/windows, it should work in ktorrent
[21:24] <nyp4life> hmm.. i think im gonna try utorrent with wine n come back if it kicks me off again..
[21:24] <nyp4life> thanks guys
[21:25] <axel> Hello! I got a question about kdesvn. I can't checkout a repository into a working copy. The repository was created as follows: File > Subversion-Admin > Create and open a new repository. As location I selected a local folder. That seemed to work. Now I want to checkout this repository into a local folder using: Subversion > Common > Checkout of a repository. This does not work. Although I've chosen the right directories for repository and working
[21:25] <axel> directory. There is an error message saying that the repository was not a working copy. If I switch the two directories there is another error message saying that the working copy is not a working copy.
[21:28] <axel> add: If I try to open the working directory using File > Open there is an error message saying that the project archive can not be opened. So I checked the rights of this directory but the user I am working with can read and write the directora and in addition it is the owner of it.
[21:28] <nyp4life> while i wait for wine.. im also having audio problems.. as in NO audio whatsoever
[21:29] <mefisto__> nyp4life: new install?
[21:29] <nyp4life> yes
[21:30] <BluesKaj> !sound | nyp4life
[21:30] <ubotu> nyp4life: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[21:30] <adam_> !ac97
[21:30] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ac97 - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[21:31] <mefisto__> nyp4life: there's a "test sound" button in system settings too. You should hear something if it's working
[21:31] <sourcemaker> are there openoffice specialists here?
[21:32] <axel> sourcemaker: I'm not really a specialist but I can try to help you
[21:33] <sourcemaker> axel: I have a lot of documentations... and I will convert them to pdf via command line...
[21:33] <adz21c> axel: have u started the subversion server and connecting to that?
[21:33] <sourcemaker> open document => update All => convert to PDF?
[21:35] <sourcemaker> I did'nt find a working macro
[21:36] <axel> sourcemaker: Please stay on. I'm searching in the man-pages.
[21:36] <sourcemaker> axel: thank you
[21:37] <ibou> is there a way with konsole or adept to look for useless packages ?
[21:37] <sourcemaker> ibou: there is a autoclean paramter
[21:37] <g2g591> ibou: thats autoremove
[21:38] <g2g591> ibou: but autoclean removes outdated packages from your cache (they take up space and are useless)
[21:38] <mefisto__> they are not useless if you want to reinstall a package you've removed
[21:39] <g2g591> mefisto__: but the also have old versions too
[21:39] <mefisto__> ditto
[21:40] <ibou> sourcemaker: autoclean in  konsole or adpt ?
[21:40] <mefisto__> sudo apt-get autoclean
[21:40] <axel> sourcemaker: there is -pt. It prints an document on a printer. If you choose the pdf-Printer of kde this could work. I don't know it, as I have not tried it before.
[21:40] <ibou> mefisto same with aptitude ?
[21:40] <enry> goodbye!
[21:41] <axel> adz21c: As far as I know kdesvn does it automatically. (starting the svn-server)
[21:41] <axel> adz21c: or am I wrong?
[21:41] <mefisto__> ibou: I think so. "aptitude --help" should show you the options available
[21:42] <adz21c> axel: i couldn't say, but kdesvn works fine for me but i launch the server manually
[21:42] <ibou> g2g591: i sould use "sudo apt-get autoremove" alone ?
[21:43] <sourcemaker> ibou: autoremove clears out the local repository of retrieved package files. autoclean  remove packages that were automatically installed to satisfy dependencies for some package and that are no more needed
[21:43] <mefisto__> sourcemaker: isn't it the other way around?
[21:44] <mefisto__> autoremove removes (uninstalls) packages
[21:44] <sourcemaker> mefisto__: hm.. yes... sorry
[21:44] <sourcemaker> mefisto__: my mistake
[21:44] <ibou> ok thanks
[21:44] <sourcemaker> ibou: man apt-get :-)
[21:48] <jorge__> hola
[21:52] <LinaLove> hey :)
[21:53] <Tecumseh> hi there
[21:53] <LinaLove> okay.. so i guess this is the most stupid question ever, but how do i open a ssh session with kubuntu? :|
[21:54] <Tecumseh> start the terminal and then issue ssh -h
[21:55] <LinaLove> thanks (:
[21:56] <mefisto__> Tecumseh: what's the -h for?
[21:57] <Tecumseh> just tested it, it doesn't work, it should've been help
[21:57] <Tecumseh> ssh --help does work though
[21:57] <axel> mefisto__: help This command shows you the options you have.
[21:57] <mefisto__> ok, I see
[22:00] <tati> hola?
[22:00] <axel> adz21c: checking out a repository from the i-net worked.
[22:01] <adz21c> axel: ok 1 mo i just test something
[22:02] <axel> adz21c: OK. Thanks.
[22:03] <adz21c> what u putting as the URL when checking out?
[22:03] <mrdigital> i need a accounting program for linux anyone got suggestions?
[22:04] <paule118>  i need a accounting program for linux anyone
[22:04] <Karti> mrdigital: gnucash?
[22:04] <Daisuke_Ido> !u
[22:04] <ubotu> Unless you're Dutch or Flemish, or a government officier, the letter 'U' is not a pronoun.  If you want to be taken more seriously, please bother to type out the extra letters in "you".  The same goes for "are", "why", "because", "anyone", and so on..
[22:04] <mrdigital> gnucash is it good?
[22:04] <Daisuke_Ido> gnucash is probably as good as you'll find right now
[22:04] <Karti> my wife uses ms money but when she looked at it she was quite impressed
[22:05] <Karti> no harm in downloading and trying it
[22:05] <mrdigital> im trying windows versioj
[22:05] <Karti> there is also kmymoney
[22:06] <mrdigital> this is for business
[22:06] <Karti> all depends what you want it for
[22:06] <mrdigital> to invoice customers. etc
[22:06] <mrdigital> purchase orders
[22:06] <Karti> gnucash does that as well
[22:06] <mrdigital> i want something like peachtree
[22:06] <paule118>  i need a accounting program &&%
[22:06] <adz21c> axel: what's the URL you're entering? a local dir?
[22:06] <Karti> there is an irc channel - #gnucash who could also help and asist you
[22:06] <axel> adz21c: yes.
[22:06] <mrdigital> paule118: u need a accounting program?
[22:07] <paule118> http://wiki.kubuntu.org/CommonQuestions
[22:08] <paule118> jes for skype
[22:09] <axel> adz21c: I DIT IT!!!
[22:10] <axel> adz21c: I meant: I DID IT!!! ;)
[22:10] <adz21c> axel: how?
[22:10] <adz21c> axel: cos i have to launch the server each time lol
[22:11] <axel> adz21c: It seems this is a bug.
[22:12] <axel> adz21c: First you have to open the repository you want to checkout. Then Subversion > Repository > Checout current repository path.
[22:13] <adz21c> axel: So I file -> open -> file://my/repo/path, then go via that menu?
[22:14] <_Angelus_> guys
[22:14] <_Angelus_> why isnt kiba-dock available on kubuntu?
[22:15] <Nachtvogel> Hi
[22:15] <axel> adz21c: Yes.
[22:15] <adz21c> axel: doesn't work for me,when i files -> open it opens the dir as if it was a working copy
[22:16] <adz21c> axel: nothing important the server launches when i start PC anyway, just curious
[22:16] <axel> adz21c: The only difference is, that instead of file:// there is ksvn+file:/
[22:16] <adz21c> ok
[22:16] <adz21c> i try that one mo
[22:17] <norv> is there a reason why nspluginviewer in Konqueror segfaults while trying to play flash movies?
[22:17] <ere4si> !kiba dock
[22:17] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kiba dock - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[22:17] <_Angelus_> !kiba
[22:17] <adz21c> axel: nah still doesn't work for me, oh well :-)
[22:18] <hola> some one knows how to share pppoe conncetion between client and host
[22:18] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kiba - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[22:18] <Junkie> Hey, is there an easy way to install KDE4 easily from kubuntu? (feisty)
[22:18] <mrdigital> gnucash isnt really good
[22:18] <adz21c> Junkie: I don't think kubuntu provides the packages, so unless someone else does I would imagine not
[22:19] <Junkie> Meh, I didn't think so, thanks anyway.
[22:19] <norv> Konqueror's Gnash plugin isn't that good (because Gnash really doesn't work all that well), that's why I'm asking
[22:19] <adz21c> Junkie: you could try downloaded the source packages and compiling it yourself, might need to upgrade some of your libs
[22:19] <norv> KDE is hell to compile
[22:19] <mau> Junkie: i don't recommend to use it, try it out with a liveCD
[22:19] <Junkie> I'm mucto lasy :)
[22:19] <adz21c> is it? i didn't find it that hard
[22:19] <Junkie> much to*
[22:19] <Junkie> too**
[22:22] <enzo> i've installed  kubuntu-restricted-extras, i restart firefox, but flash plugin is not installed, what have i missed ?
[22:23] <NickPresta> !flashissues | enzo
[22:23] <ubotu> enzo: The Flash plugin installation is currently broken. This is due to Adobe changing the tar file that the package downloads. Fixes have landed in -proposed for testing, but most most users are advised to wait until packages are approved and released in -updates.
[22:23] <enzo> rg
[22:23] <mir_> How can I use google talk with kubuntu?
[22:24] <norv> I've already installed Flash, so that's a non issue
[22:24] <norv> it works fine in Firefox and I presume other Mozilla-based browsers, the wrapper plugin is just plain broke in Konqueror
[22:24] <enzo> NickPresta: you think i'll be able to do a apt-get upgrade to get last flash plugin when it will be ok ┬¦?
[22:24] <NickPresta> norv, we know. The issue is being worked on
[22:24] <norv> enzo: don't count on it being fixed for a while
[22:25] <enzo> ok, so i install by my own
[22:25] <norv> NickPresta: is there a temporary fix? can I get a downgraded version or something?
[22:25] <norv> enzo: I'm not an authority or anything, but it's been about a month
[22:25] <NickPresta> norv, I don't know if there is a fix, sorry.
[22:25] <mir_> Can someone help me with Google talk in KUBUNTU?
[22:26] <norv> NickPresta: do you know the latest version that /did/ work?
[22:26] <NickPresta> mir_, Google Talk uses the Jabber protocol. You can use Pidgin, or anything that supports Jabber.
[22:27] <mir_> thanks, but I have problem with installing
[22:27] <NickPresta> norv, I would imagine the version prior to this one (the broken one). You could look at the bug report https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/flashplugin-nonfree/+bug/173890
[22:27] <NickPresta> mir_, problems installing what?
[22:28] <nyp4life> ok i got my audio working.. but its very scratchy.. any way to make it cleaner?
[22:28] <norv> NickPresta: thanks
[22:29] <mir_> thanks I have lost the problem
[22:29] <norv> NickPresta: I'll probably be able to find a deb somewhere, at least
[22:29] <NickPresta> mir_, I don't understand what you need help with...
[22:29] <NickPresta> norv, at the very least, you could use checkinstall to compile and create a deb so when the official fix comes, APT will recognize there is an update :)
[22:30] <axel> adz21c: was "is it? i didn't find it that hard" addressed to me?
[22:30] <norv> NickPresta: well, finding an old working tarball might be hard. it won't work from cvs/svn of course (because that's the latest)
[22:31] <adz21c> axel: no someone said kde is hard to compile
[22:32] <norv> NickPresta: I'd like to avoid downloading all of kdebase though.. and the disk space that all the -dev packages will take
[22:33] <doilgheas> hi is there a possibility at akregator to mark news with for example a blue flag like the red flag?
[22:33] <axel> adz21c: IC.
[22:34] <axel> adz21c: Which step did not work?
[22:34] <Cavallito> how to change subtitles size in kaffeine? Is it possible ?
[22:34] <adz21c> axel: it doesn't open the local repo as a repo, it attempts to open as a working dir
[22:34] <norv> NickPresta: okay, latest feisty one fails as well
[22:35] <NickPresta> norv, have you read: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=636397
[22:35] <axel> adz21c: Ok. First open the repository to check out from in Kdesvn.
[22:36] <adz21c> axel: how do u mean open it? without the server running already it attempts to open a repo as a working dir, thats my problem
[22:36] <ubuntu> hello everyone
[22:37] <ubuntu> I am a newbie and I need some gelp
[22:37] <norv>  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=636397
[22:37] <ubuntu> help
[22:37] <ubuntu> plz
[22:37] <norv> NickPresta: oops
[22:37] <axel> adz21c: how chan I figure out wether a SVN-server is running?
[22:37] <adz21c> axel: check your processes for svnserve
[22:37] <ubuntu> I would like to know how can I config the sound?
[22:37] <norv> NickPresta: I don't think it's that one, because flash movies work perfectly fine in Firefox
[22:38] <nyp4life> yea i need help with sound too
[22:38] <nyp4life> mp3's sound like crap
[22:38] <araizen> hi guys
[22:38] <axel> adz21c: Question from a beginner: How to view the active processes?
[22:38] <mefisto__> axel: ctrl-esc
[22:38] <araizen> ksysguard no longer shows the process usage %
[22:38] <araizen> how can I get it back
[22:38] <araizen> ?
[22:39] <axel> mefisto__: Thanks!
[22:40] <axel> adz21c: There is no svn-process.
[22:40] <mefisto__> araizen: right-click in the window, show column
[22:40] <adz21c> axel: yea thats what I mean without a server I can't open my local repo as a repo, what do u put as the url?
[22:41] <excitatory> where would be the best place to ask an XGL ATI (ubuntu repo fglrx driver) question?
[22:41] <araizen> got it, thanks mefisto__
[22:41] <nyp4life> audio?
[22:41] <NickPresta> excitatory, if the question is for Kubuntu, you can ask here.
[22:41] <axel> adz21c: ksvn+file:/home/...
[22:41] <adz21c> axel: ok 1 mo
[22:42] <adz21c> axel: says connection refused
[22:43] <axel> adz21c: strange.
[22:44] <ubuntu> do you know where aRts is?
[22:44] <nyp4life> my mp3's sound terrible.. is there any way to make it sound normal?
[22:44] <adz21c> axel: how did u create the repository?
[22:44] <axel> adz21c: In the Open-Dialogue: Try the path /home/... without anything before it.
[22:44] <mefisto__> nyp4life: terrible how?
[22:45] <nyp4life> just really scratchy.. dont sound clean at all
[22:45] <adz21c> axel: same result
[22:45] <mefisto__> nyp4life: and other sounds are ok?
[22:46] <axel> adz21c: I created the repository using Kdesvn: File > Subversion-Admin > Create and open a new repository.
[22:46] <adz21c> axel: i try that, i made mine with cli, one mo
[22:47] <adz21c> axel: thats it
[22:47] <axel> adz21c: does the checkout work as described, too?
[22:47] <excitatory> nyp4life: i know something you could try..
[22:48] <nyp4life> sorry its not only mp3's
[22:48] <excitatory> nyp4life: open up kmix, go to the switches tab, and play with those.  Especially try toggling the various 3d mix switches.
[22:48] <adz21c> axel: yes
[22:49] <nyp4life> video playback isnt as clear as in xp also..
[22:49] <axel> adz21c: great!
[22:51] <nyp4life> 'switches' tab only has channel mode and input source (3 of them)
[22:51] <nyp4life> and 'headphone' and 'iec958' with radio buttons
[22:52] <excitatory> nyp4life: make sure everything looks correct (channels, etc), then also play around with the switches..
[22:53] <excitatory> I had this same issue on a friend's pc, scratchy, almost degraded sound, but once we turned one of the 3d mix settings off, it was clean.
[22:53] <nyp4life> under channel mode there is 6ch and 8ch.. dont really notice a difference..
[22:53] <angelpirate> hey nyp4life
[22:53] <excitatory> yea, that probably wouldn't matter
[22:54] <angelpirate> do you know where is the aRts programme?
[22:54] <nyp4life> k i just unclicked the two 3D buttons from the output tab and it sounds much better
[22:54] <nyp4life> arts program.. no i dont
[22:55] <angelpirate> do you know where I can configure the sound/
[22:55] <angelpirate> ??
[22:55] <excitatory> angelpirate: kmix
[22:55] <theone> Hello - there are better channels for this but ubuntu rocks so I am here. Can anyone offer advice on selecting and moving more than one text box in OpenOffice Writer.
[22:57] <excitatory> theone: holding control then clicking each one?  ctrl-A will select all..which might help too..but I would have to see what you're talking about to know if that would work.
[22:58] <excitatory> theone: when you select each one, you might have to make sure you're clicking near the txt boxes' border so that the little resize/move grabbers appear and actually select the box and not the text inside.
[22:58] <angelpirate> hey  excitatory
[22:58] <excitatory> yes?
[22:58] <theone> exitatory - Yes - that is what I thought too -- for some reason I am having trouble getting the second box to click.
[22:58] <angelpirate> do you know where is the configuration program of the midi/
[22:58] <angelpirate> ??
[23:00] <theone> exitatory-  in other words the grabber doesn't appear. The boxes are not locked. In other programs that is how I do it but I have't tried it with OpenOffice so I thought maybe there was something special.
[23:00] <hdevalence> is there a reason why  kdialog --msgbox "`kdesu apt-get install -y inkscape`"  wouldn't work?
[23:01] <theone> exitatory - what happens is I click one and then when pressing ctrl to click the other - it selects leaving the first one no longer selected.
[23:02] <theone> The little green square boxes appear but transfer from the old box to the new one selected. Also drawing around the boxes with the select tool is not working to highlight multiilpe boxes.
[23:02] <nyp4life> excitatory: were u the one helping me with the torrent issue?
[23:02] <hola> how is it possibile to share pppoe connection between clent and server
[23:02] <mefisto__> angelpirate: system settings>sound. hardware tab. you can choose your midi device (your soundcard, if it has built-in midi)
[23:02] <excitatory> angelpirate: open up kcontrol (way better than the default System Settings), go to the Sound & Multimedia, then Sound System, then Hardware tab
[23:03] <BluesKaj> hdevalence, sudo apt-get install -y inkscape , would be better in the terminal , kdesu is for run programs
[23:03] <excitatory> theone: try shift?  i'm not really sure, i rarely use any office app
[23:03] <excitatory> nyp4life: nope
[23:04] <hdevalence> BluesKaj: yeah, but I don't want to open a terminal -- and inept takes too long to load
[23:04] <nyp4life> lol ok well i have a problem with torrents.. any client i use eventually kicks me off my wireless network
[23:04] <mefisto__> lol inept
[23:04] <nyp4life> utorrent with wine lasted longest (~10 mins)
[23:05] <theone> excitatory - thanks I appreciate it - I have tried and exhausted shift, alt etc. before coming here. I appreciate your effort.
[23:05] <theone> Can you offer a channel maybe that I might find someone who uses this?
[23:05] <Junkie> Hm.... I ran the distro updater and it spent 48 minutes downloading the files and now the windows just disappeared...
[23:05] <bigred> Hello. I am doing a version upgrade from 7.04 to 7.10. It is stuck configuring wvdial on the installation phase. It sounds like its a dial-up tool, in which case I do not need it. The error is that it "Failed to open device". Is there a way to skip the current step in the install terminal?
[23:06] <BluesKaj> hdevalence, the run program box is exactly that to run apps aftert installation, not to install them.
[23:06] <hdevalence> BluesKaj: yeah, but I want to run the 'apt-get' program which is already installed
[23:07] <Junkie> Is the updater still running in the background or something?
[23:07] <bigred> Me? Yes
[23:07] <nyp4life> anybody know why my torrent client kicks me off my wireless network?
[23:08] <Junkie> bigred: no, i was refering to my question :P
[23:08] <Junkie> I don't see a window for the updater :|
[23:08] <ere4si> you might have too many peers nyp4life
[23:08] <BluesKaj> hdevalence, apt-get is designed to run in the konsole /terminal , not the run box
[23:09] <hdevalence> yeah, but if I push it hard enough, I could probably get it to work
[23:09] <mefisto__> Junkie: I got the same thing when I upgraded to gutsy. try "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"
[23:09] <nyp4life> k ill try lowering the global
[23:10] <BluesKaj> hdevalence, afaik that command in the run box will open adept
[23:11] <excitatory> ok, well, I have a question
[23:12] <mohanad> hey,,, how u doin?, I am a bignner at linux (kubunto), I have some problem with sound, I have SB 5.1 the ASLA can identrify  but nothing plays exept this noise, can u help me?
[23:12] <mohanad> any one can help?
[23:13] <Junkie> kubunto :D
[23:13] <excitatory> mohanad: open up kmix and make sure everything looks good (channels, correct output settings, etc)  also, in the switches tab, try turning off the 3D control and 3D mix options
[23:14] <mohanad> ok I will now try it, thanks
[23:15] <BluesKaj> mohanad, try this in the terminal , it's aspeaker test : speaker-test -c2 -Dplughw:0
[23:18] <axel> adz21c: Thank you!
[23:18] <axel> CU@all!
[23:19] <FaiDillinGer> hi there, anyone knows how to get numlock on when X starts (not when KDE starts, when X starts, at the login manager)
[23:20] <Dr_Willis> !numlock
[23:20] <ubotu> To enable Number Lock by default, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NumLock
[23:20] <blizzzek> bye
[23:20] <Dr_Willis> I see that asked a lot.. and ive got NO idea why people always want the numlock on.
[23:21] <thorns> Hey everyone
[23:21] <BluesKaj> prolly have numbers in the login pw
[23:22] <Dr_Willis> so they got one hand on the letter keys. and move the other hand to the numpad just for a few #s? Seems a bit - slow. :)
[23:22] <excitatory> Dr_Willis: well, for one, I always use the numpad when i input numbers.. (when i learned to type, i struggled with learning how to hit the number keys above the letters)
[23:22] <lycoris> Hello
[23:22] <DiceyDaysx> Can someone tell me how do I configure strigi of kde4? Can I even configure it? Thanks
[23:22] <thorns> I want to test Hardy. I've just installed Alpha 4. Now I want to test KDE4. I go about by first installing kde4-core. That shows a rather big dependancy error list. Any ideas?
[23:22] <Dr_Willis> could be i type mor eleft handed theni do right. :) i rarely use the numpad. other then its enter key every so often
[23:23] <excitatory> DiceyDaysx: in konq, strigi:/configure
[23:23] <Dr_Willis> thorns,  i would not mess with kde4 at this time.   - If you want to toy with it - check out a kde4 live cd.
[23:23] <BluesKaj> !hardy | thorns
[23:23] <ubotu> thorns: Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - CONSIDER IT TO BE PRE BETA (ALPHA) SOFTWARE - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[23:23] <thorns> No, I really would like to, Dr_Willis.
[23:23] <nyp4life> how do i erase a dvd-rw?
[23:23] <FaiDillinGer> Dr_Willis: as for me it is because my password contains lots of numbers and i sometimes forget to press numlock, so that makes me type nothing instead of my actual pasword
[23:23] <thorns> BluesKaj: Ok, sure.
[23:23] <BluesKaj> nyp4life, , just let the next burn overwrite it
[23:24] <DiceyDaysx> excitatory: It says protocal not supported.
[23:24] <nyp4life> i tried that with k3b.. it said write successful but the disc shows the old files
[23:24] <Dr_Willis> thorns,  well kde 4 has its own channel :) and #ubuntu+1 for hardy
[23:24] <mohanad> BluesKaj
[23:24] <excitatory> DiceyDaysx: are you sure you spelled strigi:/ correctly?
[23:24] <BluesKaj> mohanad, ?
[23:25] <mohanad> BluesKaj, I have two sound card Via and SB 5.1 how can I choose SB 5.1 as the default card
[23:25] <DiceyDaysx> excitatory: copied and pasted it
[23:25] <excitatory> is it installed?
[23:25] <DiceyDaysx> yeah
[23:25] <BluesKaj> mohanad,in the terminal :  asoundconf set-default-card "name of soundcard"
[23:26] <DiceyDaysx> excitatory: It is Find Files/Folders KDE4 in raptor right?
[23:26] <excitatory> DiceyDaysx: what does strigi:/status say  (remember, do this in konq)
[23:26] <DiceyDaysx> or is it strigi-client. I seem not to have that installed
[23:27] <excitatory> strigi is installed by default in gutsy
[23:27] <mohanad> BluesKaj, how can I know the correct name of the card?
[23:27] <mefisto__> mohanad: asoundconf list
[23:27] <DiceyDaysx> I installed kde4-core. I usually use gnome, but am trying out kde4.
[23:27] <nyp4life> k3b didn't overwrite the old files on DVD-RW
[23:27] <BluesKaj> mohanad, cat /proc/asound/cards
[23:28] <DiceyDaysx> downloaded strigi client, but no difference.
[23:28] <nyp4life> can i use gnome apps in kde?
[23:29] <excitatory> DiceyDaysx: well, if you're a gnome user, you're much better off using the kde4 livecd.. you might have dependency problems, but it's hard to say.  Also, you're really not missing much, kde 4.0 is mostly a framework release.. it's still pretty ugly.. 4.1+ will be much nicer..
[23:29] <Dr_Willis> nyp4life,  yes.. and visa-versa
[23:29] <nyp4life> thx
[23:29] <Dr_Willis> nyp4life,  they all run on top of X. - you might have some quirks - depending on the app.
[23:29] <kristjan_> !ipv6
[23:29] <ubotu> To disable ipv6 read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WebBrowsingSlowIPv6IPv4
[23:30] <kristjan_> hi "ubuntu.com" doesn't load - why?
[23:30] <DiceyDaysx> I like it well enough. Got things working pretty well, other than my icons on the desktop looking weird.
[23:30] <DiceyDaysx> But no prob, I'll just forget about it. What about dragonplayer. I installed that and am wondering how do I run that.
[23:31] <mohanad> BluesKaj, Thanks man, everything is working properly, ur the BEST
[23:33] <BluesKaj> mohanad, YW , glad to help :)
[23:34] <mefisto__> anyone know what sets screen resolution for kdm?
[23:35] <excitatory> mefisto__: usually your xorg.conf file
[23:35] <mefisto__> excitatory: it is supposed to, but doesn't
[23:36] <XceII> how do i get my machine graphics back to vessa so i can see the screen?
[23:37] <BluesKaj> xcell , sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[23:37] <XceII> will that put it back?
[23:38] <BluesKaj> you will have the option
[23:38] <XceII> nice, thank you.
[23:38] <lycoris> Hi
[23:39] <XceII> ill be back, hopefully
[23:39] <mefisto__>  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg only (re)creates xorg.conf, right?
[23:39] <excitatory> no
[23:39] <excitatory> sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg
[23:40] <Strangework> I am attempting to have Kubuntu load up Compiz-Fusion and the Avant-Window-Navigator as soon as I bootup, the problem is, the only way I know how to do this is by creating a bash script in ~/.kde/Autostart. This generates some problems because this sometimes prevents the power manager from appearing in the taskbar. Is there an alternative to this?
[23:40] <mefisto__> can I reconfig xserver, without changing xorg.conf?
[23:42] <Dr_Willis> mefisto__,  xorg.conf is what holds all the xserver configs....
[23:42] <Dr_Willis> mefisto__,  what are you want ing to change exactly?
[23:42] <BluesKaj> mefisto__, reconfiguring it will change some parameters depending on the options you choose
[23:43] <excitatory> Strangework: this isn't perfect, but try appending an & to your compiz command, make a new line, sleep 5&, new line, dcop kicker kicker restart
[23:43] <mefisto__> Dr_Willis: kdm is always 1024x768, even if I only have 1280x1024 in xorg.conf
[23:43] <Dr_Willis> Strangework,  put a delay in the script - so the powermanager has time to startup?
[23:45] <mefisto__> Dr_Willis: if I log out after startup, kdm is at the correct 1280x1024, but on first startup it's 1024x768
[23:45] <Dr_Willis> I thouhg i saw a checkbox or some setting tool in kde to set a specific res as the default for the system. But i dont have the problem. So not sure if thats a fix or not
[23:51] <excitatory> mefisto__: you know.. my kdm was doing that for a while.  I think i just commented out the modeline in the xorg.conf and it fixed it.
[23:51] <mefisto__> excitatory: so you have no modelines?
[23:52] <excitatory> no, they've been pretty useless for a while, unless you're using certain configurations with open drivers
[23:57] <excitatory> argh, whenever a kernel is updated, it always sets my grub config to boot from (hd1,0) and not (hd0,0) like it should be.. (i can manually fix it, but i have to do this after every kernel update..)
[23:58] <BluesKaj> mefisto__, have you tried the admin mode in system settings/monitor & display/resolution ?
[23:59] <ahmos> !java
[23:59] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre. Please don't use Adept to install Java if you are on Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) or earlier.