[05:07] <Flannel> gnychis: Then you don't really have an amount, you could probably get away with 512 or 1G or something.  But that depends on what you end up doing.
[05:07] <blognewb> Flannel: I think i tried that before but im too dumb for that.. im trying OO right now O.o
[05:07] <oobe> gnychis, you only need to worry about having equal or more swap if you want to hybernate otherwise its fine with 2gb
[05:07] <thiebaude> gnychis, usually ubuntu sets swap automatically
[05:07] <gnychis> okay, thanks for the advice!
[05:07] <syrius> tinychat.com doesn't work on my ubuntos
[05:08] <syrius> tinychat.com doesn't work on my ubuntos
[05:08] <syrius> tinychat.com doesn't work on my ubuntos
[05:08] <FloodBot3> syrius: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:08] <webbb8> what do yo guys use to save notes
[05:08] <weidhhe> onenote
[05:08] <webbb8> have you looked at ubernote
[05:08] <thiebaude> weidhhe, i was about to say that
[05:08] <syrius> tinychat.com doesn't work on my ubuntus
[05:08] <weidhhe> haha
[05:09] <Flannel> blognewb: OOo draw should be fine, but dia might be easier.  You might also look into yEd, which is java based (but isn't in the repos)
[05:09] <blognewb> ew java!
[05:09] <blognewb> Flannel: do you know where the magnetic arrows are located in oo? :DDDDD
[05:10] <Flannel> blognewb: nope
[05:10] <weidhhe>  magnetic arrows?? north arrow in engineering drawings?
[05:11] <smogattack> I have ubuntu and windows xp. What happens if i install vista over windows xp?
[05:11] <syntex> smogattack: You'll loose all the data on your xp partition.
[05:11] <weidhhe> then ,your ubuntu will not boot
[05:11] <smogattack> syntex, that's it?
[05:11] <gnychis> smogattack: you will need to reinstall your bootloader like grub
[05:11] <smogattack> weidhhe, how would I make it book again?
[05:12] <thiebaude> smogattack, grub would be overwritten
[05:12] <weidhhe> google grub4dos
[05:12] <weidhhe> this is best solution
[05:13] <blognewb> Oh sorry to bother you i found it! it's enabled in Impress or Draw!!!
[05:13] <weidhhe> why vista not windows 7? win 7 is much better ya
[05:13] <error404notfound> i restarted my system and everywhere else fonts are okay, but in firefox fonts has started to sucks, they are reset to Serif or whatever the default ubuntu font is, same goes for the notifications
[05:15] <sd32> thanks for sharing
[05:15] <thiebaude> error404notfound, did you set the fonts in firefox?
[05:15] <error404notfound> thiebaude, yes i did, and previously the working working great
[05:16] <smogattack> thiebaude, would using a ubuntu live cd make it boot again?
[05:17] <smogattack> thiebaude, cuz that's how ubuntu was installed
[05:17] <weidhhe> ubuntu is less elegant,when compare with windows 7...
[05:17] <weidhhe> yes,u can smog
[05:17] <thiebaude> smogattack, just restart without the live cd in the drive
[05:17] <smogattack> I don't know where to get windows 7
[05:18] <weidhhe> bit torrent...
[05:18] <sd32> they stopped giving it out. i think
[05:18] <smogattack> thiebaude, i meant can I use the ubuntu live cd to recover the grub partition?
[05:18] <weidhhe> msdn edition has released
[05:18] <Need_Help_SFTP> anyone setup sftp before?
[05:18] <thiebaude> !grub | smogattack
[05:18] <biovore> Need_Help_SFTP: install openssh server.. that gives you sftp and scp
[05:18] <thiebaude> only what the bot has
[05:19] <moco> hello
[05:19] <jellulabo> hello
[05:19] <julio> hi there, my laptop volume keys stopped working, any one with time to guide me around this?
[05:20] <Need_Help_SFTP> i did i get the error message Directive 'ChrootDirectory' is not allowed with a Match block
[05:20] <weidhhe> julio,,hehe ,seems no way
[05:20] <error404notfound> thiebaude, okay, its not just firefox, its also in epiphany and some other applications
[05:21] <jellulabo> Anyone know why I would have duplicate audio devices listed in volume control? SB Live 5.1. Duplicated devices are only in my account. Sound doesn't work in my account.
[05:21] <julio> hows that?
[05:21] <smogattack> thiebaude, that's kind of scary though, knowing i could lose all my data on the ubuntu if i'm not careful
[05:21] <Need_Help_SFTP> i am trying to keep them in their home directory
[05:21] <julio> weidhhe:why's that?
[05:21] <Unr3a1> hey all, I have an external usb drive that is not being found by ubuntu
[05:22] <Unr3a1> how can I manually mount this device?
[05:22] <weidhhe> lsusb first,unr3al
[05:22] <weidhhe> hehe
[05:22] <weidhhe> silly ubuntuers
[05:22] <weidhhe> good bye
[05:23] <thiebaude> smogattack, did you set the fonts in the appearance menu?
[05:23] <leaf-sheep> I'm wondering if Qemu does the job better for a single application on Windows. Anybody here used Qemu before?  How is it?
[05:23] <Unr3a1> lsusb is not showing anything
[05:24] <smogattack> thiebaude, yeah, i believe so. would i lose  those too?
[05:24] <weidhhe> then check ur usb cable and drive
[05:24] <Unr3a1> they are good
[05:24] <Unr3a1> but its a wierd drive
[05:24] <thiebaude> smogattack, no
[05:25] <Unr3a1> it has mini usb to the drive, but to the comp is a dual usb head.
[05:25] <error404notfound> damn, these fonts suck...
[05:25] <smogattack> thiebaude, sorry for bugging you so much. I'm kind of new to this whole dual-boot thing :(
[05:25] <thiebaude> smogattack, i dont know hot to solve your problem,sorry
[05:25] <thiebaude> smogattack, no problem
[05:25] <thiebaude> how
[05:26] <weidhhe> smog,grub is worthy ur learning ya
[05:26] <danbhfive> Unr3a1: do you have both plugged in?
[05:26] <weidhhe> Unr3al, i have no idea about ur drive now...haha
[05:26] <Unr3a1> danbhfive, yes I do
[05:27] <danbhfive> Unr3a1: are you sure it's turning on?
[05:27] <Unr3a1> yes, I can hear the drive spinning up
[05:27] <weidhhe> dmesg? unr3a1
[05:28] <netskillsii> hello everyone, need help. I am unable to view Grub Boot Menu after BIOS POST, the computer just hangs is there a way to fix this from a linux live iso.
[05:28] <weidhhe> press  c! netskillsii
[05:29] <nOStahl> hey all how do i set owner/group of an entire directory and its contents from terminal
[05:29] <sd32> does the drive work in another computer?
[05:29] <Unr3a1> weidhhe, [ 1286.013566] usb 1-4: device descriptor read/64, error -32
[05:29] <netskillsii> just "c!" on the keyboard as soon as the POST finishes! I will try this right now....
[05:30] <AwaDoV> Hello everybody ... i have a problem with a chess game ... every time i open it it closed automatically ???? can anybody help
[05:30] <weidhhe> unr3al,reinstall ur ubuntu....ubuntu sucks always
[05:30] <Unr3a1> nvm, I see the issue.  its not ubuntu
[05:30] <Unr3a1> its the drive
[05:30] <Unr3a1> thx anyways
[05:30] <weidhhe> haha
[05:32] <AwaDoV> Hay . can any one help with what i said ????
[05:32] <weidhhe> as ubuntu hater,all problems would be os itself
[05:32] <suborca> AwaDov, try joining #ubuntu-beginners-help channel for help
[05:33] <weidhhe>  :D
[05:33] <sd32> ubuntu never breaks its always the drive..:)
[05:33] <suborca> affirmative on that ;-)
[05:33] <baltadt> what would be the best program for video screen capture?
[05:33] <error404notfound> can someone help me with the pathetic font issue at: http://imagebin.org/63134
[05:34] <julio> i need help with fn+?? keys
[05:34] <julio> volume ones stopped working
[05:34] <weidhhe> julio,i need help too.
[05:34] <julio> on that?
[05:34] <weidhhe> hot keys wont work in most distos
[05:34] <weidhhe> haha
[05:34] <netskillsii> weidhhe - c! is not working! Computer just hangs on a black screen, i think grub got corrupted. Much help is appreciated
[05:35] <Lartza_> My ubuntu and pc are acting weird
[05:35] <julio> but mine where working just a few days ago
[05:35] <julio> !!!
[05:35] <baltadt> what would be the best program for video screen capture?
[05:35] <weidhhe> oh,u need setup grub once again now  ...netskillsii
[05:35] <quentusrex> What are the different ubuntu package priorities?
[05:35] <julio> now they seem to cause something but volume wont vary
[05:35] <Flannel> !screencast | baltadt
[05:36] <baltadt> ty
[05:36] <Lartza_> When I use the main power switch to maintain my pc, after I am done I put power back on, but monitor goes to sleep like there is no pc and computer doesn't boot to grub
[05:36] <danbhfive> netskillsii: you may need to boot with a livecd, and check that device.map is ok
[05:36] <mattperry> need help with vsftpd
[05:37] <syntex> Lartza_:  Ensure everything is plugged in correctly.
[05:37] <nOStahl> hey guys how do you change owner/group of all files in a dir?
[05:37] <weidhhe> Lartza, something wrong with ur hardware ya
[05:37] <Fohn> !ask | mattperry
[05:37] <nOStahl> nautilus's option dosnt work
[05:37] <Lartza_> syntex: It has happened to me while on ubuntu that my screen does the same thing and my keyboard and mouse are on but not wroking(can't even switch numlock etc.) and I need to press reset button or hold power button.
[05:38] <syntex> Lartza_:  Sounds like a hardware issue like weidhhe said
[05:38] <mattperry> can anyone help with vsftpd.conf?
[05:38] <bucky> mattperry, https://help.ubuntu.com/9.04/serverguide/C/ftp-server.html
[05:38] <netskillsii> Thank you guys i will try to setup the grub, hopefully this works....
[05:38] <Lartza_> On ubuntu it has happened 2 times while using ftp and last night when I was using transmission. My netwprk card is shiny new though :/
[05:38] <weidhhe> Lartza,time to change some parts like power suply unit
[05:38] <Fohn> mattperry: Actually say your specific problem.
[05:38] <cUaNtIK> AE..................
[05:39] <Lartza_> weidhhe: NOt with this computer. I need to buy all new one.
[05:39] <mattperry> have local users enabled and jailed to local home, however they cannot access any recursive folders within that home folder
[05:39] <Lartza_> This is my second computer, the one that I shouldn't be using
[05:40] <Lartza_> I have a year old computer that broke, It reboots randomly(motherboard OR psu faulty)
[05:40] <Lartza_> ANd this is ancient Pentium III 866mhz computer
[05:40] <weidhhe> ehmm
[05:40] <Lartza_> Well this atleast still works somehow
[05:41] <sd32> puppy runs good on a p3
[05:41] <Lartza_> But thanks anyway, could tehre be any possibility this is not psu or motherboard? on the ubuntu computer?
[05:42] <Lartza_> Wait, I changed some parts recently...
[05:42] <syntex> Lartza_: More likely motherboard rather than ps.
[05:42] <Lartza_> syntex: On which one pentium 3 or the new?
[05:43] <shazbotmcnasty> I did "sudo lshw" to see what kind and how many RAM ports I have, and it lists 4 with RAM sticks in them, does that mean I have no more slots? I don't really want to disassemble my computer at the moment and see if I have any more ports... how do I tell if I have any open ports?
[05:44] <leaf-sheep> No need to disassemble your computer. Shutdown, unplug power, take out the cover and take a look. ;3
[05:44] <exsa0xx_> AE
[05:44] <sd32> the side should easily slide off with little effort
[05:45] <exsa0xx_> PO
[05:45] <weidhhe> lartza,,see color of Capacitors in both mainbo and psu
[05:45] <error404notfound> anyone?
[05:45] <danbhfive> shazbotmcnasty: I don't know, but can't you just search your motherboard model?
[05:45] <error404notfound> can someone help me with the pathetic font issue at: http://imagebin.org/63134
[05:45] <weidhhe> u would have the answer
[05:45] <Lartza_> weidhhe: The pentium 3 or the new computer?
[05:45] <syntex> Lartza_: The one that reboots.
[05:46] <Lartza_> Okey
[05:46] <coordinador> help please!
[05:46] <coordinador> my ubuntu 9.04 gets frozen
[05:46] <coordinador> it has happen like 3 times today
[05:47] <shazbotmcnasty> error404notfound, in firefox go to EDIT>preferences>content>fonts - change the font to the one you like best.
[05:47] <mattperry> anyway to allow access to home folder and all folders inside it in vsftpd.conf?
[05:47] <Lartza_> So what do faulty capacitors look like?
[05:47] <error404notfound> shazbotmcnasty, its not just firefox, other apps as well
[05:47] <shazbotmcnasty> coordinador, do you have the correct video card driver?
[05:47] <Gnea> Lartza_: browner than silver
[05:47] <coordinador> shazbotmcnasty, yes, i think.. my card is i945gm
[05:47] <weidhhe> shazbotmcnasty,u need an applecation of check mainbo
[05:47] <coordinador> may be for uxa?
[05:47] <FooZ> I'm attempting to install Ubuntu x64 on my system, which is an HP dv6... I'm running the live cd at the moment, but I'd like to get my sound problems fixed first.... I've tried to change from pulse audio to alsamixer, and then to OSS... Still having issues... I've even tried to recompile alsamixer but no luck. Does anyone have any other suggestions?
[05:48] <shazbotmcnasty> then I suggest looking in system>preferences - and changing your font from there.
[05:48] <coordinador> shazbotmcnasty, do you think that could be for the UXA?
[05:49] <kigng999> hi
[05:49] <shazbotmcnasty> coordinador, what?
[05:49] <Lartza_> motherboard capacitors look fine exept one
[05:49] <weidhhe> hi,anyone from china?
[05:49] <coordinador> shazbotmcnasty, the freezing of my machine, do you think could be for the new UXA method in Xorg?
[05:50] <Lartza_> I am lookking for the english word for what it's like
[05:50] <Lartza_> hmm...
[05:50] <coordinador> shazbotmcnasty, in Device Section I have :   Option        "AccelMethod" "uxa"
[05:50] <Armageddon> how do I upgrade from Ubuntu to Ubuntu server ?
[05:50] <error404notfound> shazbotmcnasty, i did, no use
[05:50] <shazbotmcnasty> I don't know much about that, but I tried to go from 8.10 to 9.04 a while back but ATI had dropped support for my video card, so there was no driver available
[05:51] <MenZa> Armageddon: You don't. They're the same, except Desktop has a GUI, which Server doesn't.
[05:51] <shazbotmcnasty> which lead me to downgrading back to 8.10
[05:51] <bucky> !cn | weidhhe
[05:51] <weidhhe> error,,,ur english speak style is like chinese
[05:51] <weidhhe> ahaa
[05:51] <shazbotmcnasty> Armageddon, get the ubuntu server ISO and install it to a USB using unetbootin
[05:51] <weidhhe> i know i can visit chinese channel,thanx for ur reminding
[05:51] <coordinador> Shazzamy_, what about if you edit sources.list?
[05:52] <weidhhe> but there is nobody
[05:52] <MenZa> weidhhe: If you expect help in here, speak English. We can't provide Chinese support.
[05:52] <bucky> weidhhe, /msg NickServ REGISTER
[05:52] <weidhhe> all chinese is  too smart that they have no problems ya
[05:52] <weidhhe> hahah
[05:52] <weidhhe> i know
[05:53] <Armageddon> MenZa: no GUI in the server Ubuntu ?
[05:53] <MenZa> No, Armageddon.
[05:53] <Flannel> Armageddon: Not by default anyway
[05:53] <Armageddon> how about applications ?
[05:53] <MenZa> Armageddon: Ubuntu Desktop comes with GNOME, Server comes with no UI.
[05:53] <Armageddon> isn't there server application ?
[05:53] <MenZa> Those are found in, you know, Desktop as well, Armageddon.
[05:53] <Flannel> Armageddon: depends on what you choose to install during the installation process
[05:53] <Armageddon> MenZa: same same ?
[05:53] <MenZa> Want an ssh server? Install openssh-server. Want a webserver? Install apache.
[05:54] <Armageddon> O_o
[05:54] <Armageddon> MenZa, I can do that on Ubuntu also
[05:54] <Armageddon> no need for Ubuntu server
[05:54] <MenZa> I'm *talking* Ubuntu.
[05:54] <weidhhe> shazbotmcnasty,u can build ur own ati driver ya,ko file...
[05:54] <dcope> Is there a command to tell me what network cards I have?
[05:54] <Flannel> Armageddon: correct.  There's no significant difference between them besides the default packages.
[05:54] <weidhhe> ifconfig ,dcope
[05:54] <MenZa> dcope: lspci should list all your PCI hardware, including your LAN card.
[05:54] <weidhhe> haha
[05:54] <mattperry> anyone can help with vsftpd.conf?
[05:55] <weidhhe> menza,its  ifconfig not lspci!!!!
[05:55] <MenZa> !anyone | mattperry
[05:55] <Flannel> Armageddon: unlike other operating systems, there's no difference between a "server" program and a "desktop" program, they're just things that run.
[05:55] <dcope> MenZa: great, thanks
[05:55] <MenZa> weidhhe: ifconfig will display current network connections, not cards. Please don't give misleading support in here.
[05:55] <Lartza_> Could that be a faulty capacitor? One on my motherboard has a minor bulge on the top
[05:55] <Armageddon> Flannel, I know that, I just thought there would be firewalls and stuff to manage a network by default, that's why I was asking
[05:55] <weidhhe> menza,but lspci just give driver and hard info,not ip info!!!!!!
[05:56] <MenZa> That's not what he asked for, weidhhe. I think the language barrier is proving a problem here.
[05:56] <weidhhe> if u want to know ip info,should ifconfig work
[05:56] <tenach> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Membership/RegionalBoards/Americas
[05:56] <mattperry> how to jail local users to home folder and all folders inside in vsftpd.conf?
[05:56] <tenach> Sorry guys wrong channel
[05:56] <weidhhe> menza,okok,
[05:57] <losher> Lartza_: a bulging capacitor is usually a bad sign. Are you planning to remove it and solder in a new one?
[05:57] <Flannel> Armageddon: Ubuntu (desktop) has a firewall built in already
[05:57] <weidhhe> according my understanding,he should ask which one interface is transfering date...
[05:57] <Lartza_> losher: No
[05:57] <Armageddon> Flannel: oh ?
[05:57] <Lartza_> ANd I am not sure it's bulging
[05:58] <Flannel> !firewall > Armageddon
[05:58] <Lartza_> cant see it from side
[05:58] <Lartza_> well it is bulged but from the top only
[05:59] <Armageddon> thanks Flannel :)
[05:59] <dean> can anybody walk me through how to install software such as games etc on ubuntu? i'm just starting to use ubuntu and trying to fall in love with it :)
[05:59] <Lartza_> I can feel it with my finger, the other capacitors have like hole in the top of them cause the casing is higher than the metallic top, here the metallic top has curved above the plastic cover
[05:59] <Lartza_> dean: Sure
[05:59] <pengavin> hello guys
[06:00] <pengavin> How i skip any step in Ubiquity?
[06:00] <Lartza_> dean: Can I pm you?
[06:00] <dean> sure
[06:00] <losher> Lartza_: if you suspect a hardware problem, the only practical solution is to swap it out. You could run memtest overnight first just in case you have a RAM problem...
[06:00] <Lartza_> losher: THe memtest reboots and computer also reboots without peripherals and ram
[06:00] <weidhhe> Lartza,change all those look grey and dark-grey
[06:01] <weidhhe>  :D
[06:01] <Lartza_> BUt I need to get new computer anyways, motherboard had limited ram, too small psu and I needed a new gfx card
[06:01] <losher> Lartza_: ok, back to square one then. Bad PSU, motherboard or gfx card....
[06:01] <sd32> what's the max amount of people seen in here?
[06:01] <FooZ> I'm attempting to install Ubuntu x64 on my system, which is an HP dv6... I'm running the live cd at the moment, but I'd like to get my sound problems fixed first.... I've tried to change from pulse audio to alsamixer, and then to OSS... Still having issues... I've even tried to recompile alsamixer but no luck. Does anyone have any other suggestions?
[06:01] <Lartza_> integrated gfx card
[06:01] <weidhhe> gtx 295 is  wonderful in cracking wpa wireless
[06:01] <weidhhe> haha
[06:02] <weidhhe> i  like it
[06:02] <mUaNiEz> aeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
[06:02] <Lartza_> How do you start a private conversation in xchat?
[06:02] <Lartza_> Like on own tab/window?
[06:02] <FooZ>  /query userna
[06:02] <losher> FooZ: 9.04 is notorious for sound problems. Tried 8.04 LTS...?
[06:02] <tanjir> Lartza_, click right button and select open dialog window
[06:02] <dean> am i missing something? LOL
[06:03] <FooZ> losher: Not quite, but I've tried a few different flavors of (fedora, xubuntu, etc)
[06:03] <weidhhe> all ubuntu sound notorious,,it would result much more lazy linux users
[06:03] <Lartza_> dean: You are missing my private messages :S
[06:04] <dean> hmmmmmmm how do i accept
[06:04] <dean> nevermind found it
[06:04] <losher> FooZ: no sound on *any* of those distros?
[06:04] <weidhhe> haha
[06:04] <StupidWeasel> Humm, but it's their *choice* to be lazy?
[06:04] <weidhhe> dean
[06:04] <weidhhe> what a man
[06:04] <FooZ> losher: nope =(
[06:04] <Lartza_> weidhhe: I already got him to my care :)
[06:04] <losher> FooZ: maybe your hardware's faulty? Does it work on, cough, windows?
[06:05] <FooZ> losher: yeah it does
[06:05] <gandhi> drivers might just not be good in linux
[06:05] <gandhi> it happens sometimes, just gotta wait for support if you can't write your own
[06:05] <StupidWeasel> Have you grabbed the latest alsa release?
[06:05] <losher> FooZ: I agree with gandhi. Try googling to see if it's a known problem...
[06:06] <StupidWeasel> Or is it not *that* kinda sound problem?
[06:06] <FooZ> I will take a look here
[06:06] <y2cows> win7 no audio in VB
[06:06] <weidhhe> win7 is great ya
[06:06] <losher> FooZ: got a spare pci slot. Might be easiest to just shove in a really cheap soundcard. That's what I did when I had problems with onboard audio...
[06:07] <y2cows> any ideas on how to enable sound
[06:07] <y2cows> sound fine in host
[06:07] <weidhhe> onboard audio support is a problem for all new mainbos
[06:08] <pheonix> hi, is there any chm reader in which we can make notes while we read through the book
[06:09] <Etrom_BR> brasileiros ou brasileiras!?
[06:09] <losher> !bn | Etrom_BR
[06:09] <losher> !br | Etrom_BR
[06:09] <Etrom_BR> #ubuntu-br
[06:09] <Fohn> etrom_BR: /j #ubuntu-br
[06:09] <weidhhe> pheonix,no much options for chm reader yet,let alone keep notes...
[06:10] <ShapeShifter499> hi
[06:10] <losher> bn == bangladesh ?
[06:10] <weidhhe> hihi
[06:10] <Fohn> !hi | shapeshifter499
[06:10] <weidhhe> anyone from china
[06:10] <weidhhe> ??????
[06:10] <Fohn> !ch | weidhhe
[06:10] <Fohn> wat?
[06:10] <pheonix> weidhhe, thanks
[06:10] <Fohn> hmm.
[06:11] <losher> Fohn: ch == germany. cn == china
[06:11] <Fohn> losher: Thanks :D.
[06:11] <tp_> !video
[06:11] <weidhhe> german are good at sattelite receiver mod !
[06:11] <rww> losher: no. ch is Switzerland. .de is germany.
[06:11] <losher> weidhhe: try #ubuntu-offtopic. We don't chat in this channel
[06:12] <weidhhe> agree with  rww
[06:12] <FooZ> I performed the command.. "cat /proc/asound/card0/codec#* | grep Codec" and the result was: Codec: IDT 92HD75B3X5 and Codec: LSI ID 1040 ... Would I be searching for both of these codecs..?
[06:12] <losher> rww: you are correct, thank-you
[06:12] <tp_> exit
[06:12] <losher> FooZ: Dunno if you saw this: Got a spare pci slot? Might be easiest to just shove in a really cheap soundcard. That's what I did when I had problems with onboard audio...
[06:13] <drygrain> do i need to mount the windows filesystem somehwere before i can acess files on C:\ from ubuntu? dual boot
[06:13] <drygrain> i know i worded that badly
[06:13] <FooZ> losher: I'm not sure... I'm on a notebook...
[06:13] <Xcerca> anybody play any steam games with wine ?
[06:13] <rww> drygrain: did you install using wubi, or did you repartition?
[06:13] <leaf-sheep> rww: no. rw is rww.  ls is leaf-sheep.
[06:13] <drygrain> wubi :X
[06:14] <rww> drygrain: it's automatically mounted in /host, I think
[06:14] <losher> FooZ: oh right. Forget it then. Back to google...
[06:14] <drygrain> oh cool
[06:14] <drygrain> let me check
[06:14] <rww> drygrain: if you repartitioned, it's a little more complicated :)
[06:15] <drygrain> there is no /host
[06:15] <weidhhe> remem to back up at very beginning
[06:15] <weidhhe> hoho
[06:15] <drygrain> wait duh
[06:15] <drygrain> i looked on the wrong box
[06:15] <Xcerca> anybody play steam games with wine ?  i get this pop-up that says my nVidia driver is out of date then i get a DX8 error when i try to run TF2 or CS
[06:15] <drygrain> *blush*
[06:15] <sd32> haha just found out compiz will work on a eee pc
[06:16] <weidhhe> sd32, u must get a veryyyyyyyyy slowwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww system
[06:16] <gandhi> yeah, seems like it would run like shit without hardware acceleration
[06:16] <rww> Xcerca: if nobody answers here, #winehq is probably a good bet for detailed WINE questions.
[06:16] <gandhi> lol
[06:16] <sd32> weidhhe, naa just read it
[06:16] <gandhi> what kind of chipset do those things have anyway?
[06:17] <gandhi> is it just an intel chipset?
[06:17] <gandhi> cause then you'd be using gma, which is terrible
[06:17] <Xcerca> should i update my nvidia driver?  it's the highest version in the hardware drivers section, but i get a pop-up error when i start a wine game
[06:17] <sd32> weidhhe, read it on the eeebuntu page
[06:17] <weidhhe> hehe,good ya
[06:17] <gandhi> xcerca, are you just using vanilla 9.04?
[06:18] <Xcerca> whats vanilla ?
[06:18] <Xcerca> i was trying to use wine
[06:18] <gandhi> like you didn't add the xorg updates repo or xorg edgers?
[06:18] <drygrain> rww, thanks very much
[06:18] <weidhhe> xcerca,love cs?not wine but dul boot sys
[06:18] <losher> FooZ: searching by codec seems like the wrong approach. You want to search by chipset...
[06:18] <rww> drygrain: no problem :)
[06:18] <Xcerca> gandhi , no i didn't
[06:18] <drygrain> rww, my gf will now accept linux now that i can find my video files
[06:18] <drygrain> and play them with VLC
[06:18] <drygrain> :D
[06:19] <weidhhe>  :D
[06:19] <gandhi> well, adding the xorg-edgers ppa might help, let me install the 185 drivers
[06:19] <Xcerca> weidhhe,  yea , i have that, but if it works good in wine i won't have to use windows
[06:19] <JeoTheLeo> hello
[06:19] <weidhhe> use vlc as a stream server
[06:19] <Xcerca> gandhi ,  ok,  so add the repo for x org ?
[06:19] <drygrain> ?
[06:19] <FooZ> losher: My chipset is intel, but according to this... http://www.mjmwired.net/kernel/Documentation/sound/alsa/ALSA-Configuration.txt ... the module isn't listed
[06:19] <gandhi> yeah, just look up xorg edgers at launchpad.net
[06:19] <JeoTheLeo> I just upgraded to jaunty....while upgrading there were two main errors that made me worried
[06:20] <drygrain> i have quite a collection on my windows (soon to be ex-windows) box
[06:20] <drygrain> the one i just wubi'd
[06:20] <Xcerca> gandhi , just edgers ?    whats that vanilla you were talking about ?  is that ubuntu with the default repos only ?
[06:20] <drygrain> now that i know its as simple as /hosts/
[06:21] <gandhi> yeah, vanilla is default
[06:21] <losher> FooZ: I think you need to get more specific to have a chance of finding sound drivers. You need to know the exact chipset model of your onboard sound card. Try sudo lspci -v or maybe lshw...
[06:21] <RZC> join #boycottnovell
[06:21] <maco> RZC: please dont spam
[06:21] <drygrain> i may jusst leave windows on there, but boot from ubuntu as default. Anyone know how to change the default OS setting at startup, when it gives the option?
[06:22] <weidhhe> novell is good ya
[06:22] <JeoTheLeo> xlib: extension "Generic Event Extension" missing on display ":0.0". 12 times
[06:22] <weidhhe> change menulist ...
[06:22] <weidhhe> defualt  ()
[06:22] <drygrain> menulist?
[06:22] <JeoTheLeo> 12 times as in a batch
[06:22] <weidhhe> menu.lst
[06:22] <Nathaniel1> is ubuntu running v2.6.28 of the linux kernel at the moment?
[06:22] <maco> drygrain: he means /boot/grub/menu.lst
[06:22] <drygrain> ohhh
[06:22] <JeoTheLeo> occurred like 100 times
[06:23] <drygrain> okay
[06:23] <gandhi> yeah, 9.04 is 2.6.28
[06:23] <gandhi> i'm running 2.6.30 though
[06:23] <Nathaniel1> hmm, just noticed this: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/08/14/critical_linux_bug/
[06:23] <Nathaniel1> going to go upgrade my kernel I think
[06:23] <weidhhe> english is ur first lang?but sounds not that native tho...
[06:23] <weidhhe> hehe
[06:23] <Xcerca> gandhi ,  is xorg-edgers a repo that i can add ?
[06:24] <gandhi> yeah
[06:24] <gandhi> you just add it to software sources and add the key
[06:24] <drygrain> what do i change in menu.lst
[06:24] <Xcerca> a deb ....   jaunty   ?
[06:24] <gandhi> they even have the kernel update to the karmic kernel to get some of the xorg updates to work better
[06:24] <gandhi> its pretty neat
[06:24] <weidhhe> default ,,follow number...
[06:25] <weidhhe> i speak to dry
[06:25] <weidhhe> hehe
[06:25] <drygrain> what number
[06:25] <drygrain> should it be
[06:25] <alus> where can I put some bash script to execute before /etc/fstab is processed?
[06:25] <drygrain> !?
[06:25] <weidhhe> a line begin with default
[06:25] <drygrain> 1?
[06:25] <weidhhe> ehmmm
[06:26] <FooZ> losher: http://pastebin.com/m72c5226f
[06:26] <drygrain> yes
[06:26] <drygrain> do i uncomment "default num"
[06:26] <weidhhe> NO
[06:26] <drygrain> or change the "default (0)"
[06:27] <weidhhe> u will have no choice when swich on
[06:27] <drygrain> ohh ok
[06:27] <weidhhe> no ()
[06:27] <drygrain> yeah no ()
[06:27] <weidhhe> just num change is ok
[06:27] <drygrain> its just default 0
[06:27] <drygrain> just change it to 1?
[06:27] <weidhhe> default  1 !
[06:27] <weidhhe> yes
[06:27] <drygrain> ok thanks
[06:27] <drygrain> sorry lol
[06:28] <weidhhe>  :D
[06:29] <gandhi> Xcerca, http://webupd8.blogspot.com/2009/08/how-to-install-nvidia-190xx-drivers-in.html
[06:29] <drygrain> ok done
[06:29] <drygrain> let me reboot
[06:29] <losher> FooZ: looks a lot like https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/395318
[06:29] <drygrain> this box here
[06:30] <drygrain> i'm sorry for using enter as punctuation, i really am, but i've been using IRC for several years and it's hard for me to change habits :)
[06:30] <drygrain> bear with me please :D
[06:30] <Circs> Howdy, I'm trying to make an Ubuntu install USB drive and am having difficulties. Could anyone lend a hand. I am unable to satisfy dependencies for UNetbooting and usb-creator is not found in a package search
[06:30] <weidhhe>  8-)
[06:31] <losher> alus: fstab is processed really early on. What are you trying to do?
[06:31] <drygrain> is there a ubuntu chat channel
[06:31] <drygrain> where i can chat freeely :)
[06:31] <leaf-sheep> !ot | drygrain
[06:31] <losher> drygrain: #ubuntu-offtopic
[06:31] <alus> losher: I need to create a directory so that it can be used as a mount point
[06:31] <drygrain> cool :)
[06:31] <alus> losher: because of my environment, I can't make sure the directory exists when the machine is shut down
[06:33] <weidhhe> i always see losher as loser
[06:33] <weidhhe> haha
[06:33] <losher> alus: you can create /etc/rc.local, put the mkdir in there, and also a mount command. No need to do this before fstab runs...
[06:33] <losher> weidhhe: time you moved to #ubuntu-offtopic
[06:33] <Wildbat> >< eclipse is much slower and breakpoint isn't in unbuntu then windows
[06:34] <alus> losher: I guess I could remove all the lines from /etc/fstab and move them to mount commands, but one of these directories is /var
[06:34] <alus> losher: isn't /etc/rc.local a little late for that?
[06:35] <Flannel> Circs: You want to make a USB stick to install? or USB stick that's a system?
[06:35] <Circs> Flannel: USB install
[06:36] <Circs> Flannel: USB to install
[06:36] <losher> alus: no need to remove anything from /etc/fstab. You can re-issue mount commands at any time. In a normal system, /var should never get deleted anyway. Is there something unusual about your system you haven't told us?
[06:36] <drygrain> Crap
[06:36] <Flannel> Circs: Have you tried using the USB creator magic thing on an Ubuntu install (or live CD)
[06:36] <drygrain> weidhhe, it didnt work
[06:36] <alus> losher: it's running in EC2, and I'm mounting /var to a drive which will not get wiped on reboot
[06:36] <Circs> Flannel: I don't see anything like that, but I'm on 8.04
[06:36] <Flannel> Circs: like this, except 9.04 (I don't believe anything significant has changed): http://www.pendrivelinux.com/ubuntu-810-install-using-the-built-in-usb-installer/
[06:36] <weidhhe> did u save the change to menu.lst?
[06:37] <drygrain> weidhhe, the boot menu appears to be different than menu.lst
[06:37] <weidhhe> hehe
[06:37] <Flannel> Circs: Ah, grab a newer liveCD and it'll be able to do it.  It'll make a system from an arbitrary iso.
[06:37] <drygrain> 30 second timer instead of 3 and it also has "press f8 for windows troubleshooting"
[06:37] <Circs> Flannel: No access to optical drive for either computer in question at the moment
[06:37] <alus> losher: now, I could make a fake /var which gets mounted over, but I want to make sure I mount over it before anything critical happens
[06:38] <weidhhe> you should not change number of timeout  ya
[06:38] <drygrain> does it make a difference that it's installied via wubi?
[06:38] <syntex> Is there a client similar to mIRC for Linux? Mainly the feature to create scripts.
[06:38] <drygrain> i did not change number of timeout
[06:38] <drygrain> i noticed it was 3
[06:38] <drygrain> when editing menu.lst
[06:38] <Flannel> Circs: we can try to backport it, let me take a look
[06:38] <weidhhe> ehmmmm
[06:38] <drygrain> but on startup its 30sec
[06:38] <Circs> Flannel: UNetbootin says that it cannot resolve a dependency, let me see. libqt4-network is what it can't get
[06:39] <weidhhe> cat menu.lst?
[06:39] <weidhhe> and paste it?
[06:39] <Flannel> Circs: Looks like usb-creator should be a painless backport.... Oooh, so painless, that it's already in -backports
[06:39] <drygrain> its on other comp
[06:39] <drygrain> but i will try
[06:39] <weidhhe> ssh into it
[06:40] <Circs> Flannel: What magic should I concentrate on working then?
[06:40] <drygrain> wtf
[06:40] <drygrain> dude its booting up weird
[06:40] <drygrain> all i changed was 0 to 1
[06:40] <weidhhe>  :|
[06:40] <losher> alus: ok, well if you grep for fstab in /etc/init.d/* you'll see the scripts which mount stuff (in my release it's done in mountall.sh). I suppose that's where you'd test for /var and mkdir it if it doesn't exist...
[06:40] <drygrain> it has a lot of options here
[06:40] <drygrain> "drop to root terminal, safe mode, etc"
[06:40] <Flannel> Circs: Just install that package, I'll just give you a direct link: http://packages.ubuntu.com/hardy-backports/all/usb-creator/download
[06:40] <weidhhe> dude,how wired ur ubuntu is
[06:41] <drygrain> aha theres my prompt
[06:41] <drygrain> its 9.04 :/
[06:41] <_ged> in the var/sys/syslog, it displays the logs of the system including the cron right?? what if i only wanted to see the logs of the cron?? or redirect it to some file,then the output should be like the output of the syslog that displays what time the cron takes place.  So that I can easily see the logs of my cron.  Thanks
[06:41] <alus> losher: neat, thanks!
[06:41] <drygrain> i installed it on this box with wubi though
[06:41] <drygrain> if that makes a difference
[06:42] <Circs> Flannel = Magic
[06:42] <devrethman> What do I need to apt-get install in order to be able to compile 32 bit stuff?
[06:42] <losher> _ged: why not just egrep -i cron /var/log/syslog to see only the cron lines...?
[06:42] <drygrain> weidhhe, how to ssh into other box? on same wireless network
[06:43] <weidhhe> oh,long story to say...
[06:43] <weidhhe> u should config sshd...
[06:43] <drygrain> ok nm
[06:43] <drygrain> never mind
[06:43] <weidhhe> and users allowed
[06:43] <drygrain> i will just join chat from that box
[06:43] <drygrain> and paste
[06:44] <devrethman> fosrs. I want to compile wine from git, and it complains that I don't have gcc -m32, so what do I need to be able to compile stuff with multilib?
[06:45] <drygrain> hello dgee
[06:45] <dgee> hello
[06:46] <dgee> ok
[06:46] <dgee> can i pm u my cat menu.lst
[06:46] <PC-Ente> guten morgen
[06:48] <Dayofswords> how do you change the brightness on a laptop running ubuntu?
[06:48] <dgee> system>preferences>display
[06:49] <drygrain> weidhhe, are you still there?
[06:50] <Dayofswords> where i display?
[06:50] <Dayofswords> *in
[06:50] <drygrain> oh my
[06:50] <drygrain> open mouth insert foot
[06:50] <drygrain> :x
[06:50] <drygrain> sorry
[06:50] <altf2o> anyone happen to know if there's a room on Freenode specifically for Linux Kernel development?
[06:51] <Dayofswords> theres the ##linux
[06:51] <Jimbo> is wikipedia down at the momment?
[06:51] <tyler_d> I cannot get my external CD rom drive to mount - USB - running ubuntu 9.04 64 bit
[06:53] <losher> devrethman: dunno much about it. Try googling 'ubuntu gcc multilib'
[06:54] <dgee> ohhhh I see why editing grub/menu.lst isnt doing any good; option 0 (default) is normal Ubuntu, 1 is recovery mode, 2 is prior kernel, et cetera
[06:54] <dgee> something is handling the boot before grub
[06:54] <drygrain> i think its a windows application
[06:54] <dgee> you dont say
[06:55] <drygrain> i do
[06:55] <drygrain> :X
[06:55] <losher> altf2o: sorry, but if you can't find the irc channel unaided, you're probably not ready to talk to kernel developers. Try http://kernelnewbies.org/ instead
[06:55] <drygrain> lol
[06:56] <vadviktor> somehow true
[06:56] <altf2o> losher: Pidgin doesn't appear to have a "list channel" feature, hence my question.
[06:56] <vadviktor> I am using Pidgin and it DOES have list channels :)
[06:56] <tyler_d> need to know how to mount Bus 001 Device 003?? - usb cd rom drive?
[06:57] <Flannel> altf2o: /msg ALIS list #*searchterm*
[06:57] <altf2o> perhaps i simply overlooked, let me look again.
[06:57] <vadviktor> on Pidgin: Buddies->Join a Chat -> Room list
[06:58] <altf2o> that definitely eases things, thank you :).
[06:58] <vadviktor> np mate :)
[06:58] <_ged> *var/log/syslog  mean
[07:00] <tim__> hi ubuntu! i set the /exitnice"
[07:01] <Circs> Hmm
[07:01] <weidhhe> drygrain ,have you fig it out?sorry i had  a nap right now
[07:02] <weidhhe> heyhey
[07:02] <drygrain> lol
[07:02] <drygrain> hyes
[07:02] <drygrain> i think i have figured it out
[07:02] <drygrain> but it is not fixed
[07:02] <weidhhe> change num from 1 to n?
[07:02] <tim__> hey ubuntu, i adjusted the "nice"ness of a process too high via the process manager ("set priority"). now the process runs, but gdm does not. how can i readjust it through a terminal
[07:02] <yinlong> who knows how to change grub?
[07:02] <yinlong> who can help me ?
[07:02] <Circs> What does it mean when I get an error that says "The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available:"
[07:03] <weidhhe> ubuntu is werid..
[07:03] <drygrain> changing that chages it to start ubuntu in recovery mode; the boot menu i'm seeing at the beginning is a windows app, not grub
[07:03] <weidhhe> nobody can help you with grub ,sorry
[07:03] <losher> tim__: renice <priority> -p <pid>
[07:03] <yinlong> weidhhe,why?
[07:03] <drygrain> what
[07:03] <tim__> losher: thanks!!
[07:03] <drygrain> oh
[07:03] <weidhhe> ehmmm.reinstall grub to mbr!
[07:04] <drygrain> so what MSDOS file is equivalent to menu.lst for *nix?
[07:04] <weidhhe> that is the  solution
[07:04] <yinlong> i mean i install xp and ubuntu at frist.
[07:04] <Circs> weidhhe: I'm pretty sure someone can actually
[07:04] <weidhhe> hahaha
[07:04] <drygrain> because thats whats booting first, then booting grub
[07:04] <Flannel> drygrain: What?
[07:04] <yinlong> and then i reinstall vista instead of xp.
[07:04] <Bluey> yin - you install windows first...
[07:04] <drygrain> the boot menu i see at the beginning is what i'm trying to change
[07:04] <Flannel> drygrain: I guess autoexec.bat?
[07:04] <drygrain> change the default and remove the 30 second timer
[07:04] <yinlong> but the boot menu is still xp and ubuntu
[07:04] <Circs> Flannel: Maybe someone could take care of weidhhe? he's becoming a nuisance to people actually looking for help
[07:05] <Bluey> yin - isn't that what you want?
[07:05] <drygrain> the boot menu that comes up first is the windows OS selector thingy
[07:05] <weidhhe> not ,vista should use  bcdedit...
[07:05] <yinlong> but actually ,the so called "xp " is vista
[07:05] <Flannel> weidhhe: Is there something we can help you with today?
[07:05] <drygrain> the windows part is xp home
[07:05] <yinlong> i want to change the name "xp " into vista
[07:05] <Bluey> yin that's an eeasy fix if you're just trying to change the name
[07:05] <yinlong> that's the problem
[07:05] <yinlong> who can help me>
[07:06] <losher> Circs: I /ignored weidhhe hours ago...
[07:06] <weidhhe> wait and see around ...
[07:06] <drygrain> why
[07:06] <drygrain> hes been helping me
[07:06] <drygrain> :/
[07:06] <Bluey> yin first make a backup copy of menu.lst -- sudo cp menu.lst menu.org
[07:06] <Bluey> oops
[07:06] <drygrain> lol
[07:06] <weidhhe>  8-)
[07:07] <Bluey> yin - sudo cp /boot/grub/menu.lst menu.org
[07:07]  * drygrain is listening to: Primus - John the Fisherman ~ [ 0:36] of [ 3:37] ~ 256.0 kbps ~ 44100Hz
[07:07] <Flannel> drygrain: Please turn that off
[07:07] <yinlong> Bluey,let me try
[07:07] <matyd> can i get kubunto support here or just ubuntu?
[07:07] <drygrain> sorry
[07:07] <drygrain> i didnt mean to do it globally
[07:07] <matyd> kubuntu*
[07:07] <Flannel> matyd: You can, but #kubuntu might be a better place to ask
[07:07] <drygrain> just in a different chan
[07:08] <Bluey> yin - ALWAYS have a path back to the way it was, before you messed it up!
[07:08] <matyd> i have, just no one has answered me as of yet
[07:08] <matyd> ;P
[07:10] <akn> hey
[07:10] <akn> i just installed ubuntu for the firest time
[07:10] <akn> and i dont have any sound
[07:10] <Bluey> akn -- well lets do a reality check
[07:10] <SpartanDK> help me,my error:http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=223773
[07:10] <Bluey> is it plugged in and turned on?
[07:11] <akn> yes
[07:11] <akn> laptop
[07:11] <SpartanDK> i did like that,but my ubuntu was installed inside Windows
[07:11] <SpartanDK> and i could not do like that
[07:11] <Bluey> akn can you test the speakers on another system or source?
[07:11] <weidhhe> akn's problem is very typical one...
[07:11] <Bluey> yes I've run into that...
[07:11] <akn> it was working before on vista
[07:12] <Bluey> alsa sometimes goes nuts...
[07:12] <drygrain> did you use wubi to install?
[07:12] <akn> wubi?
[07:12] <dsdeiz> isn't there like a page in ubuntu which provides troubleshooting steps for sounds?
[07:12] <weidhhe> you should modify a file by hand....i forget the exact solution...u can google ya
[07:12] <SpartanDK> someone helps me
[07:12] <SpartanDK> please
[07:12] <Bluey> dsd - yes I am trying to find that for him
[07:12] <dsdeiz> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound <- is this the one?
[07:12] <Flannel> !sound | Bluey, dsdeiz, akn
[07:13] <dsdeiz> just wondering. why alsa? there is also oss right?
[07:13] <Bluey> thanks that's why I was looking for...
[07:13] <drygrain> Flannel, do you really think I should look at autoexec.bat?
[07:13] <weidhhe> no
[07:13] <Bluey> yes --
[07:13] <Circs> Flannel: Could I talk you into being a superhero again?
[07:13] <Bluey> but alsa seems to be on most things...
[07:13] <weidhhe> autoexac.bat won't work...
[07:14] <weidhhe> hehe
[07:14] <akn> alsa is selected
[07:14] <Flannel> drygrain: That'd be what DOS things run at boot I believe
[07:14] <akn> but no sound
[07:14] <Flannel> weidhhe: Please stop making arbitrary comments at other people, it's only confusing.
[07:14] <Bluey> id try the trouble shooting suggestions that ubotto came up with
[07:14] <drygrain> Flannel, okay, I'll take a look and see if it's obvious
[07:15] <weidhhe> but,i  mean  dos loader can not load in any linux distr...
[07:15] <SpartanDK> help me :(
[07:15] <Boohbah> autoexec.bat is... !offtopic
[07:15] <yinlong> SpartanDk,what's your problem?
[07:15] <find> 有没有中文频道呀
[07:15] <SpartanDK> my problem :http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=223773
[07:15] <find> 呵 呵
[07:15] <SpartanDK> Target Filesystem doesn't have /sbin/init
[07:15] <weidhhe> fineÄãÔÚÄÄÀïÑ½
[07:15] <weidhhe> ¹þ¹þ
[07:16] <Flannel> weidhhe: Again, please stop.
[07:16] <weidhhe> ÎÒÔÚÉÏº£°¢
[07:16] <SpartanDK> i did like that,but it did not work
[07:16] <dsdeiz> op!
[07:16] <SpartanDK> i installed Ubuntu inside Wins
[07:16] <SpartanDK> and i cant do like that
[07:16] <Boohbah> SpartanDK: your problem is from 2006 using dapper drake?
[07:16] <losher> !cn | find
[07:17] <find> 呵 呵
[07:17] <AwaDoV> Syntex: chess opened
[07:17] <SpartanDK> i upgraded from 8.10 to 9.04
[07:17] <Bluey> hmm homework - bbiab
[07:17] <find> 谢谢
[07:17] <find> 呵 呵
[07:17] <clearscreen> !ops | find
[07:17] <ikonia> find: please stop
[07:17] <SpartanDK> i rebooted and it happened
[07:17] <Circs> Could someone help me, I can't get my updates on this laptop, this error comes up: http://pastebin.com/m7a4b161f
[07:17] <weidhhe> find said thank u ya
[07:17] <Boohbah> SpartanDK: are any of the posts in that thread yours? it would help to have more information on your particular problem
[07:18] <SpartanDK> not at all
[07:18] <SpartanDK> i could not type the conmmand
[07:18] <SpartanDK> when i pressed Ctrl Alt+F2,nothing happened
[07:19] <SpartanDK> and i cant type the command like they gave
[07:19] <CatEater> i still can't get my vm window to appear on a windows xp host. i click on the taskbar button, but the window doesn't appear on screen. i know i've asked here before, but i forgot what to try. i'm using 3.0.4 r50677. any ideas?
[07:19] <weidhhe> then Ctrl Alt+f7?
[07:19] <losher> Circs: see if this helps: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-1054906.html
[07:20] <CatEater> also i just realized i said that to the wrong channel
[07:20] <CatEater> however, if anyone can recommend a vm setup for unbuntu, that would be appreciated
[07:20] <Circs> losher: It just shoots over the top of my head. All i need is the pub key for that ppa but I don't know how to get it
[07:20] <SpartanDK> what will i do
[07:20] <_ged> losher: ok
[07:21] <LogicFan> CatEater, you mean a VM app for ubuntu?
[07:21] <Boohbah> CatEater: for running desktop OS's/apps use VirtualBox
[07:21] <LogicFan> or running ubuntu in a VM
[07:21] <Boohbah> !virtualbox
[07:21] <LogicFan> yeah virtualbox is great
[07:21] <Bluey> okay taking a break
[07:21] <CatEater> LogicFan: i'm trying to run virtualbox on windows, with ubuntu as the guest os, and it won't work
[07:21] <CatEater> i can't see the vm window
[07:22] <alus> non-free? it says GPL
[07:22] <LogicFan> sorry, don't know anything about virtualbox on windows
[07:22] <alus> although I guess the GPL is not free
[07:22] <alus> it's free as in bear-trap
[07:22] <CatEater> what do you run ubuntu on?
[07:22] <LogicFan> my laptop
[07:22] <CatEater> oh, i can't afford to do that
[07:22] <LogicFan> ?
[07:23] <CatEater> i can't afford a laptop to run it on
[07:23] <SpartanDK> someone helps me,please
[07:23] <Circs> losher: How does one just get the launchpad gpg?
[07:23] <Boohbah> alus: http://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/VirtualBox_PUEL
[07:23] <albech> i cannot make the internal microphone work on my acer 5920g
[07:23] <Boohbah> alus: a non-free license
[07:23] <albech> anyone experience similar problems?
[07:23] <LogicFan> oh, my laptop is my main and only computer
[07:23] <losher> Circs: it says to run the following in a terminal: gpg --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com --recv 35661D98
[07:23] <CatEater> LogicFan: yeah, that's my problem too
[07:24] <LogicFan> CatEater, you can download the ubuntu windows installer
[07:24] <CatEater> it's my only computer, and i don't have any other computer to run linux on, so vm is the only option
[07:24] <LogicFan> !wubi
[07:24] <CatEater> i tried that but it would stop my windows processes, which is unacceptable
[07:24] <Circs> losher: I still get the same error
[07:24] <LogicFan> CatEater, and you dont want ubuntu as your primary os?
[07:25] <Xodiac13> i have done an install of ubuntu 8.04 command line install i have blackbox, wdm, alsautils, and everything else but i cant get my sound to work and someone please help
[07:25] <CatEater> i do, but not if i have to stop what i'm doing just to test it
[07:25] <Xodiac13> i have already tried alsamixer
[07:25] <losher> Circs: that's because we haven't finished yet. Next step, run gpg --export --armor 35661D98 | sudo apt-key add -
[07:25] <weidhhe> no,,ubuntu installer has the best support for installation from hard disk files even in ntfs filesystem among ALL distros...!!!!!!1
[07:26] <Gelegrodan> Xodiac13: is your user member of the group audio or sound or what is now is in ubuntu?
[07:26] <weidhhe> wubi is rubbish
[07:26] <Flannel> weidhhe: Again, please stop that.
[07:26] <weidhhe> why
[07:26] <drygrain> ?
[07:26] <weidhhe> ?
[07:26] <Xodiac13> Gelegrodan: im lost sorry i am just trying to get sound working for my laptop
[07:26] <ianm_> which dual-monitor solution do I need to use to be able to fullscreen an (SDL) game on the second monitor?
[07:27] <Gelegrodan> Xodiac13: and i said what you should check
[07:27] <tyler_d> why is sshd always listening on root?
[07:27] <Xodiac13> Gelegrodan: ive tried going to the alsa mixer and turing everything up and nothing happens
[07:27] <Gelegrodan> so you run from terminal`?
[07:27] <Xodiac13> Gelegrodan: yes
[07:27] <tyler_d> even after modifying /etc/ssh/sshd_config to state EnableRootLogin no it still allowing login as root
[07:27] <Zachk18> Xodiac13: make sure the audio is on pulse
[07:27] <losher> tyler_d: it has to run as root to listen on port 22
[07:27] <Flannel> weidhhe: Because you're generatingnoise that isn't helpful to anyone.
[07:27] <Gelegrodan> Xodiac13: try as root
[07:27] <alus> someone should make a Wubi which uses VirtualBox instead of rebooting
[07:28] <losher> tyler_d: did you restart it after changing the config?
[07:28] <Xodiac13> Zachk18: how do i put it on pulse sorry im new
[07:28] <tyler_d> ie. ssh<EMAIL_ADDRESS>losher: yes
[07:28] <drygrain> erk, Flannel,
[07:28] <weidhhe> i just put on  my views on all tools..
[07:28] <drygrain> where is autoexec.bat
[07:28] <drygrain> :(
[07:28] <weidhhe>  '<
[07:29] <Gelegrodan> drygrain: what you need that for?
[07:29] <Flannel> drygrain: should be at the root of your DOS filesystem C:\autoexec.bat or D:\autoexec.bat or whatever
[07:29] <losher> tyler_d: no, I mean restart the server i.e. sudo /etc/init.d/ssh restart
[07:29] <drygrain> i installed with wubi, so it uses windows to choose os at boot
[07:29] <weidhhe> drygrain, maybe is a  hidden file
[07:29] <drygrain> i want to change the default os to ubuntu
[07:29] <tyler_d> losher: yes
[07:29] <Gelegrodan> drygrain: its boot.ini
[07:29] <Gelegrodan> you should change
[07:29] <tyler_d> losher: even bounced the box
[07:29] <drygrain> oh
[07:29] <Xodiac13> Zachk18: how do i put it on pulse sorry im new
[07:29] <Circs> losher: Sorry about that, computer decided to diaf
[07:29] <Fu4ny> it's boot.ini, you should not touch your autoexec.bat
[07:29] <drygrain> C:\windows?
[07:30] <drygrain> or in C:\
[07:30] <weidhhe> boot.ini is valid only in xp and 2000
[07:30] <Fu4ny> c:\boot.ini
[07:30] <Gelegrodan> drygrain: press win+r
[07:30] <Gelegrodan> drygrain: type msconfig, go to systemstart
[07:30] <Gelegrodan> change ubuntu to default
[07:30] <Gelegrodan> save
[07:30] <Gelegrodan> reboot
[07:30] <FloodBot3> Gelegrodan: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:30] <losher> Circs: did you see my last msg:  gpg --export --armor 35661D98 | sudo apt-key add -
[07:30] <Fu4ny> or why not install Ubuntu on a fresh partition ;)
[07:30] <weidhhe> vista and window 7 should be modify bootmgr via bcdedit...
[07:30] <Xodiac13> Zachk18: how do i put it on pulse sorry im new
[07:30] <Circs> losher: Yeah but it didn't work
[07:31] <Zachk18> Xodiac: opposite click on your sound icon, click on sound settings
[07:31] <drygrain> Gelegrodan,
[07:31] <losher> Circs: so you did both steps and still can't update?
[07:31] <drygrain> i am at msconfig
[07:31] <Xodiac13> Zachk18: im using terminal
[07:31] <drygrain> there is no "systemstart" with Ubuntu as an option
[07:31] <Zachk18> oh ok...
[07:31] <Zachk18> why?
[07:31] <Gelegrodan> drygrain: you only have a windows line there?
[07:32] <Xodiac13> Zachk18: i have an older laptop and its very fast on the minimal install with blackbox wdm and all the others i looked at a guide
[07:32] <akn> i really dont know... this is my sound card Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) HD Audio Controller
[07:32] <akn>  (rev 03)
[07:32] <drygrain> i put ubuntu on this box with wubi this afternoon
[07:32] <weidhhe> see arould
[07:32] <akn> cant seem to find any thing
[07:32] <Xodiac13> Zachk18: i install alsa-utils
[07:32] <losher> tyler_d: on my ssh, the parameter is PermitRootLogin, not EnableRootLogin ?
[07:32] <Gelegrodan> drygrain: only a windows line there? hm.. maybe wubi uses grub or something, then youhave to change from ubuntu
[07:32] <Xodiac13> Zachk18: but i cant use this command alsaconf it says command not found
[07:32] <akn> anyone?
[07:33] <losher> akn: can you be more specific. What are you looking for, and how?
[07:33] <tyler_d> losher: you are correct its PermitRootLogin no
[07:33] <Gelegrodan> Xodiac13: do you run as root ?
[07:33] <nubae|work> join #ltsp
[07:33] <tyler_d> losher: just for me try ssh<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[07:34] <tyler_d> losher: or alternately try your ip above
[07:34] <losher> tyler_d: so you set it on the server and then bounced the server?
[07:34] <drygrain> Gelegrodan, I got it!
[07:34] <tyler_d> losher: tried to sudo /etc/init.d/ssh restart
[07:34] <Dayofswords> how do i limit the number of kernals on the grub display?
[07:35] <tyler_d> losher: as well bounced the server -- ie. init 6
[07:35] <drygrain> I set Ubuntu as default and lowered the auto-timedelay to 5sec instead of 30
[07:35] <drygrain> success!! :)
[07:35] <weidhhe> cong!
[07:35] <Xodiac13> Gelegrodan: yes but i will check again
[07:35] <weidhhe>  :D
[07:35] <Xodiac13> Gelegrodan: when i type alsaconf it says command not found
[07:35] <Gelegrodan> hm
[07:35] <Xodiac13> Gelegrodan: and i install alsa-utils
[07:35] <drygrain> msconfig werked for me
[07:35] <Gelegrodan> try apt-get it
[07:35] <drygrain> lol
[07:36] <Gelegrodan> i dont use ubuntu :)
[07:36] <Xodiac13> Gelegrodan: o okay
[07:36] <Circs> losher: I think I did your part wrong, but this worked: http://gentoo-blog.de/ubuntu/ubuntu-gpg-error-httpppalaunchpadnet-intrepid-release/
[07:36] <losher> tyler_d: the only other thing I can suggest is to stop the server and instead run it by hand /usr/sbin/sshd -d and try ssh'ing into it, and look through the debugs for clues...
[07:36] <losher> Circs: ok, glad it's working...
[07:36] <weidhhe> Gelegrodan is a ubuntu hater?
[07:37] <Gelegrodan> weidhhe: not really, but i perfer dists not doing things automatic..
[07:37] <weidhhe> me too,
[07:37] <SpartanDK> my problem:Target Filesystem doesn't have /sbin/init ,and i did like this tut:http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=223773,but i cant type the command?
[07:37] <Circs> losher: Sorry I'm a bit daft. I really do appreaciate the help though :)
[07:37] <Gelegrodan> Xodiac13: apt-get alsa-base alsa-utils
[07:37] <Gelegrodan> then sudo alsaconf
[07:37] <weidhhe> slackware does meet our requirments
[07:37] <SpartanDK> i installed Ubuntu inside Windows
[07:37] <SpartanDK> some one help me,please
[07:37] <Gelegrodan> weidhhe: freebsd, gentoo
[07:38] <Xodiac13> Gelegrodan: okay i will try that real quick
[07:38] <weidhhe> gentoo need too much make...
[07:38] <indus> SpartanDK: hi
[07:38] <weidhhe> its boring
[07:38] <Gelegrodan> weidhhe: nah
[07:38] <indus> SpartanDK: what is the problem
[07:38] <SpartanDK> indus :can u help me
[07:38] <Gelegrodan> just conf your flags
[07:38] <Dayofswords> how do i limit the number of kernals on the grub display? such as not show all the older ones?
[07:38] <Gelegrodan> and your ready
[07:39] <Gelegrodan> Dayofswords: sudo nano /boot/grub/..grub.list maybe..or what its called :)
[07:39] <Xodiac13> Gelegrodan: its already installed
[07:39] <indus> Dayofswords: just hash it out in menu.lst
[07:39] <Gelegrodan> Xodiac13: try sudo alsacof then
[07:39] <SpartanDK> indus: Target Filesystem doesn't have /sbin/init  this is my problem
[07:39] <indus> SpartanDK: yes i will try
[07:39] <Gelegrodan> alsaconf* Xodiac13
[07:39] <Xodiac13> Gelegrodan: k
[07:39] <losher> Dayofswords: comment them out in /boot/grub/menu.lst. Warning, if you mess this up, your system may no longer boot...
[07:39] <indus> SpartanDK: when does this happen,what are you trying to do
[07:39] <Gelegrodan> you have to run it as root, so its better to logon as root instead of using sudo Xodiac13
[07:39] <Xodiac13> Gelegrodan: it says command not found
[07:40] <Gelegrodan> Xodiac13: i just read there is no alsaconf i ubuntu :P
[07:40] <Fu4ny> Dayofswords: try install a boot manager, it would be easier and you won't break anything ;)
[07:40] <SpartanDK> query
[07:40] <Xodiac13> Gelegrodan: would the program show though cause it will ask for a password and all but it says command not found im confused
[07:40] <Gelegrodan> Xodiac13: its sudo asking for your password
[07:40] <Gelegrodan> Xodiac13: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=205449
[07:40] <Xodiac13> Gelegrodan: yeah
[07:41] <Dayofswords> is there an app to edit grub..
[07:41] <SpartanDK> indus:i try Ctr+Alt+F2,but i cant type the command
[07:41] <indus> SpartanDK: what command?
[07:41] <Gelegrodan> weidhhe: reason to hate stupids dists: "Ubuntu (GNOME) users have reported that packages 'gdm' and 'ubuntu-desktop' are removed after removing the linux-sound-base packages. If this happens, then do the following"
[07:41] <SpartanDK> sudo mount -t ext3 -o rw /dev/hda1 /mnt sudo chroot /mnt sudo apt-get update; apt-get upgrade; apt-get install udev
[07:42] <indus> SpartanDK: why are you doing these commands?
[07:42] <tyler_d> losher: I get "Failed none for root from <<my_ip>> port 46164 ssh2"
[07:42] <SpartanDK> i saw this :http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=223773
[07:42] <indus> SpartanDK: creating a chroot for something it seems
[07:44] <Circs> Why would the partitioner be unable to mount a disc during install?
[07:49] <Circs> Doing an install of Ubuntu onto a computer for a friend's HTPC, and encountering problems left and right. Could anyone help?
[07:50]  * Andorin pokes the channel, trying to get someone in here who knows how to fix the problem
[07:53] <Circs> Could anyone help a bit, it's probably easy stuff, I'm just lost
[07:53] <miguelonnnn> hi
[07:53] <PapaGoose> does anyone know how to set a memory limit per user (not per process)?
[07:54] <miguelonnnn> ask Circs , maybe i can help
[07:54] <Circs> miguelonnnn: As I install it says: unable to mount disc scsi1. Does that mean my hdd is junk?
[07:54] <miguelonnnn> don't know papa, but you could make a script to limit any process by the user
[07:55] <natrixnatrix89> Hi. What do you think of win4lin? Is it worth buying it? Does USB work with it?
[07:55] <Circs> miguelonnnn: Also when I try to boot into the try without changing your computer it just gives me a login screen, then tries to login and dumps me back to it in an endless loop
[07:55] <miguelonnnn> for example, who theuser | nice -9
[07:55] <jess12345> anyone out there with some experience in xorg.conf file dual monitor ?
[07:56] <PapaGoose> see i can edit /etc/security/limits.conf and set a memory limit per process, but the account is going to sometimes be used for parallel computing so what i need is a combined limit for all the processes
[07:56] <Dayofswords> dang ubuntu drains my battery
[07:57] <lance1907> greetings
[07:58] <Anodyne> greetings!
[07:58] <Anodyne> ashwini!
[07:58] <Anodyne> i love ubuntu 8.04!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
[07:58] <jess12345> anyone out there with some experience in xorg.conf file dual monitor ?
[07:58] <natrixnatrix89> Dayofswords: Buy a bigger battery!
[07:58] <Jan5001> jess12345: just ask your question
[07:58] <Circs> miguelonnnn: Any thoughts?
[07:59] <natrixnatrix89> Dayofswords: or you can try to use xubuntu.. it would consume less. i think...
[07:59] <miguelonnnn> i don't think is junk, it may be just that you don't have a working driver for your usb, or that linux had any problem to mount it.  Or maybe you got an incompatible fs, what fs do you have in your drive? is it fat? or ntfs... ..
[07:59] <miguelonnnn> xubuntu rocks, i use it
[07:59] <jess12345> got dual monitor working, correct resolution using gnome screen display, however they are both cloing  even though the clone is ticked off, i dont want the clone
[07:59] <Dayofswords> well ubuntu =~1hr 30 mins  windows vista(customized by toshiba i guess)= ~4 hrs
[07:59] <Circs> miguelonnnn: It's just a HDD I'm trying to do a fresh install
[08:00] <miguelonnnn> you try to install ubuntu into the hdd?
[08:00] <bashca> !sessions
[08:00] <jess12345> no issues with the resolution, both are different one a laptop and other a desktop but both are perfect - just want to remove the clone
[08:00] <bashca> !session
[08:00] <Circs> Dayofswords: That's going to be a power management/speed throttling issue
[08:01] <bashca> System>Preferences>Sessions  i can't  find it ??
[08:01] <natrixnatrix89> Dayofswords: you can add a thing to your upper panel where you can regulate the processor and power consumption
[08:01] <kfizz> Guys, quick question. We're dealing with signed/unsigned ints in my programming class. One of the questions was to represent -0 in a signed int form, well seeing as I've never seen -0 I figured it was out of range. However, the correct answer was 10000000 according to her, is this the standard?
[08:01] <franck_> salut
[08:01]  * bashca  using jaunty
[08:01] <Dayofswords> i have my power setting for battery on setting that would conserve power, it could be that i have visual effects on extra...
[08:02] <natrixnatrix89> !ssh
[08:02] <Jan5001> !twinview | jess12345
[08:02] <bashca> System>Preferences>Sessions  i can't  find it ??
[08:02] <natrixnatrix89> !sshd
[08:03] <weidhhe> dayofwords,,linux has worst power management support,while ubuntu has maxmum automation solutions run in backend,that's it..for long battery time,use  windows 7,its awesome...
[08:03] <jess12345> Jan5001: intel graphics card is that nividia
[08:03] <miguelonnnn> circs are oyu there?
[08:03] <Circs> miguelonnnn: Yes sir
[08:03] <jess12345> Jan5001: is there a gui available for nvidia ?
[08:03] <PapaGoose> kfizz: that sounds about right. The leading 1 is the sign bit, which decides if its positive or negative. The rest of the bits are the number itself
[08:04] <MenZa> !windows | weidhhe
[08:04] <miguelonnnn> i asked if you try to install ubuntu to the hdd
[08:04] <herenbdy> hello, i'm using ssh-keygen to generate a key pair, and when trying to SSH into SF, I get the warning: UNPROTECTED PRIVATE KEY FILE!  Permissions 0644 for '.ssh/id_dsa.pub' are too open.
[08:04] <miguelonnnn> i don't know what exactly you want hehe
[08:04] <herenbdy> that's not my private key file... and I didn't have to do this before :(
[08:04] <weidhhe> ubottu, im talking ubuntu,just a comparation...
[08:04] <Circs> miguelonnnn: If you put my name in your message it'll flash so i catch it easier :) Yeah I'm trying to put it on my HDD
[08:05] <miguelonnnn> ok ok sry
[08:05] <Circs> miguelonnnn: No big deal, just makes it easier
[08:05] <miguelonnnn> well, do you know the format of your hdd?
[08:05] <miguelonnnn> sry Circs
[08:05] <miguelonnnn> i didn't put the name :P
[08:06] <Circs> miguelonnnn: It shouldn't even be formatted yet.
[08:06] <dada_> hej
[08:06] <G-man> hey guys
[08:06] <miguelonnnn> well
[08:07] <miguelonnnn> type in terminal "mount"
[08:07] <G-man> i am thinking about installing Ubuntu, but im just wondering which i should go with
[08:07] <Circs> miguelonnnn: I cannot. it is a frsh install
[08:07] <MenZa> !pl | dada_
[08:07] <G-man> and, i would like to know if Ultima Online runs clean in it
[08:07] <MenZa> G-man: What do you mean?
[08:07] <miguelonnnn> and please, paste it at pastebin. Tell me the link i'll take a look ok?
[08:07] <G-man> well which flavor
[08:07] <G-man> i've had it before
[08:08] <G-man> but went back to windows for darkfall
[08:08] <G-man> then i cancelled my subscription three months later
[08:08] <miguelonnnn> but that won't make any change, just tell the format of any disk connected to the computer
[08:08] <MenZa> G-man: Ubuntu is... well, Ubuntu. Other things, such as DE, are decided by your preference.
[08:08] <miguelonnnn> Circs,
[08:08] <miguelonnnn> sry i forget to type the name :S
[08:08] <G-man> So no matter which one i pick
[08:08] <G-man> i can change the looks
[08:08] <G-man> right?
[08:08] <MenZa> G-man: As for Ultima Online... most people report good results in Wine, but that's no guarantee.
[08:08] <MenZa> G-man: Correct.
[08:09] <G-man> cool
[08:09] <Xodiac13> i really need help on getting my sound to work i have tried everything and i am new to linux i love it and i will continue to learn i need to get my sound to work i did a command line install i have blackbox, wdm i installed alsa-utils and i cant get sound please help
[08:09] <G-man> i dont wanna crutch myself
[08:09] <MenZa> G-man: http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=application&iId=228
[08:09] <G-man> but ubuntu make s things so smooth man
[08:09] <Circs> miguelonnnn: I cannot I do not have any os installed the computer is blank and will not boot into the "try ubuntu" mode
[08:09] <MenZa> G-man: It does. I suggest downloading 9.04 (the latest stable version) and trying that out
[08:09] <MenZa> G-man: Like I said, most people report really good results on UO, so I'd give that a go in Wine.
[08:09] <G-man> sweet
[08:10] <G-man> cuz im sure it probably runs a lil faster
[08:10] <Xodiac13> i really need help on getting my sound to work i have tried everything and i am new to linux i love it and i will continue to learn i need to get my sound to work i did a command line install i have blackbox, wdm i installed alsa-utils and i cant get sound please help
[08:10] <G-man> i know movies
[08:10] <G-man> web browsing
[08:10] <G-man> all that
[08:10] <FloodBot3> G-man: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[08:10] <G-man> is faster with ubuntu
[08:10] <Jan500> does anybody knows why samba still uses the ssl connection altough i set ldap ssl = off  .. i got this errors: "Failed to issue the StartTLS instruction: Protocol error" and   "Connection to LDAP server failed for the 1 try!"
[08:10] <MenZa> G-man: It might, might not. UO has pretty low sys requirements, though.
[08:10] <Jan500> i know its not an ubunt question  but maybe someone knows :D
[08:10] <G-man> what about partitioning
[08:11] <G-man> for a new ubuntu install
[08:11] <Xodiac13> i really need help on getting my sound to work i have tried everything and i am new to linux i love it and i will continue to learn i need to get my sound to work i did a command line install i have blackbox, wdm i installed alsa-utils and i cant get sound please help
[08:11] <MenZa> Personally, I'd make sure I had seperate / and /home partitions, as well as a swap partition. That's all the advice I can give.
[08:11] <miguelonnnn> no it's nothing about booting the hdd Circs , it's just to make a list of atached disks , it will just say what disks are connected to the computer, so i know which "file" is the disk in the ubuntu session
[08:12] <Xodiac13> i really need help on getting my sound to work i have tried everything and i am new to linux i love it and i will continue to learn i need to get my sound to work i did a command line install i have blackbox, wdm i installed alsa-utils and i cant get sound please help
[08:12] <Jan500> !repeat | Xodiac13
[08:12] <MenZa> Xodiac13: Calm down, dude.
[08:12] <Xodiac13> Jan500: okay sorry
[08:12] <Circs> miguelonnnn: You aren't getting what i am saying. i have no terminal, I cannot get to a terminal. There is no way for me to complete what you have asked me to do
[08:12] <Xodiac13> Menza: im getting excited because i have my old laptop running at moch jesus and all i need to do is get sound working
[08:13] <MenZa> Sure, sure. But try again in a bit, or perhaps start by supplying us with a bit of ifnformation. What have you done to fix it? Which sound card do you have? etc.
[08:13] <PapaGoose> Circs: I assume its actually a scsi drive?
[08:13] <MenZa> Xodiac13: All these things could be helpful. And you could also search the forums while you wait.
[08:13] <miguelonnnn> for example Circs , if i plug my usb to my computer, and type mount, it will say "fat_32_system on disk2s1", so i know your disk is on disk2s1 file of your computer system, and it's fat formated"
[08:13] <drygrain> Ack!
[08:13] <miguelonnnn> hmm sry then, i don't know how can i help
[08:13] <miguelonnnn> what system are you in now?
[08:13] <Jan500> Xodiac13: what is the output of cat /proc/asound/cards ?
[08:14] <Xodiac13> Menza: ive been searching the forums and still no luck
[08:14] <drygrain> I've run into a problem with my Add/Remove Packages
[08:14] <Circs> PapaGoose: SATA, but linux sees most things as SCSI anyways
[08:14] <Circs> miguelonnnn: Ty for trying
[08:14] <miguelonnnn> sry then, i don't know how can i help. What system are you in now Circs ?
[08:14] <miguelonnnn> ok no problem :(
[08:14] <Circs> miguelonnnn: A laptop, the system I am trying to install on is a HTPC
[08:15] <drygrain> They all say "*package* cannot be installed on your computer type (i386). Either the application requires special hardware features or the vendor decided not to support your computer type."
[08:15] <weidhhe> xodiac13,what is ur mainboard chipset?esp. southbridge chip!
[08:15] <drygrain> on every single available package
[08:15] <herenbdy> ubuntu no longer supports i386!? :p
[08:16] <drygrain> ...?
[08:16] <miguelonnnn> but to install ubuntu into the hdd, you need first a system. What system you got in your laptop Circs ?
[08:16] <G-man> quick question, im going to do a full ubuntu install... just wondering about how much space to allocate for each partition
[08:16]  * herenbdy is not serious
[08:16] <drygrain> ok
[08:16] <PapaGoose> Circs: Just thought it was odd since my sata drives always appear as /dev/sd*, I've never noted them appearing as scsi
[08:16] <Xodiac13> Jan500: uh lol how do i copy and paste from terminal to xchat sorry
[08:16] <herenbdy> G-man: ubuntu without the home directory only takes a few gigs
[08:16] <Xodiac13> Jan500: i did the command i just need to know the keystrokes
[08:16] <G-man> give me figures...
[08:16] <MenZa> G-man: How much disk space do you have you wish to use for Ubuntu?
[08:16] <indus> G-man: depends on your usage, but minimum of 10 gb for / and the rest for home is good
[08:16] <G-man> like what 5gig then 20, then what
[08:16] <herenbdy> G-man: my ubuntu install is currently using...... 3-4 GB without my /home dir
[08:16] <MenZa> G-man: (in total)
[08:16] <jhesketh_> I'm a bit confused. I have a thumbdrive with 3 fat16 partitions on it with an msdos partition table (all created in gparted). Somebody is trying to tell me they want to "assign drive letters" to the partitions (for windows). However, it is my understanding that the drive letter isn't held in the partition table and it's simply assigned by windows when it is first plugged in? (seems like a windows question, but I'm more askin
[08:16] <jhesketh_> g about the way partition tables work ;))
[08:17] <drygrain> Anyone can help with my problem?
[08:17] <drygrain> I've run into a problem with my Add/Remove Packages
[08:17] <herenbdy> G-man: 10GB for / and w/e you want for /home sounds good
[08:17] <drygrain> They all say "*package* cannot be installed on your computer type (i386). Either the application requires special hardware features or the vendor decided not to support your computer type."
[08:17] <MenZa> jhesketh_: Right click My Computer -> Manage -> Disk Management. You can change the drive letters there.
[08:17] <weidhhe> install any linux distro in any distyo is easy,if in windows,its difficult
[08:17] <G-man> kk
[08:17] <Jan500> Xodiac13: crtl + shift + c ?
[08:17] <MenZa> G-man: It really depends on how much space you have in total.
[08:17] <G-man> that will keep ubuntu crisp
[08:17] <G-man> aye?
[08:17] <Xodiac13> Jan500: thz
[08:17] <indus> G-man: remember, the more software you install, the more the / is used up
[08:17] <herenbdy> G-man: yeah, ubuntu itself does not take much space, it's all your personal stuff that does
[08:17] <MenZa> G-man: If you had a figure for that, it'd be easier to give you a recommendation.
[08:18] <jhesketh_> MenZa: Yes, but changing letters in there only sets it for the current machine right? the information isn't stored on a partition table is it?
[08:18] <Xodiac13> Jan500: thats wasnt it
[08:18] <MenZa> Correct.
[08:18] <MenZa> You can't do that.
[08:18] <miguelonnnn> you can label internally the disk, so it has the same label for any computer you plug the device
[08:18] <jlist> hi all, sorry for a stupid question - how to check what version of ubuntu i'm running, as in 7.04 or 7.10, etc.?
[08:18] <G-man> its about 130gigs
[08:18] <MenZa> A label isn't a drive letter though, miguelonnnn
[08:18] <indus> G-man: all official software or debs you download take up space in /
[08:18] <miguelonnnn> yeah :(
[08:18] <G-man> kk
[08:18] <MenZa> G-man: And RAM?
[08:18] <G-man> 2 gigs
[08:18] <jhesketh_> yep, I'm familiar with labels
[08:18] <G-man> ram
[08:18] <jhesketh_> ok thanks guys :)
[08:19] <indus> G-man: keep 1 gb for swap space
[08:19] <Jan500> Xodiac13: which terminal do you use?
[08:19] <drygrain> ;[
[08:19] <sub[t]rnl> jlist: lsb_release -r
[08:19] <indus> G-man: what is hard disk size?
[08:19] <MenZa> G-man: 10G /, 2G swap, rest for /home. That's my recommendation.
[08:19] <Xodiac13> Jan500: xterm
[08:19] <jlist> got it thanks sub[t]rnl
[08:19] <MenZa> G-man: You probably won't use up those 10G, but that's to make sure you have enough space to fit basically what you want on it. Generally, swap should be RAMx2, but you have plenty.
[08:20] <MenZa> G-man: And /home... well, that takes up space.
[08:20] <G-man> 10g/ 2g swap in the middle rest allocate for /home
[08:20] <G-man> got it
[08:20] <G-man> thanks bro
[08:20] <MenZa> Welcome. Enjoy :)
[08:20] <indus> MenZa: why not ? i have 10 gb / which is almost getting full now
[08:20] <MenZa> indus: I've never filled up my 8G /.
[08:20] <G-man> heh... gonna be a bit before i install... gotta make sure backup all my webpages... n what not
[08:20] <MenZa> indus: You need to remove some software you don't use.
[08:20] <G-man> im going to try to save my game macros, on my external hardrive
[08:21] <MenZa> Now, for home.
[08:21] <indus> MenZa: have you installed mysql, mythtv, etc?
[08:21] <G-man> in hopes that i dont have to redo them...
[08:21] <herenbdy> G-man: when you install ubuntu, you can migrate existing windows settings
[08:21] <MenZa> Sure, indus.
[08:21] <herenbdy> G-man: if it detects any windows partitions
[08:21] <antonius602> alright..i installed ubuntu just now..and my /home is a seperate partition with loads of hidden folders..config files....it's messing things up a bit....should i rm ~/.*    ?
[08:21] <MenZa> Not myth, but mysql, yes.
[08:21] <BrendanClements> test
[08:21] <MenZa> Now, my laptop is pretty much dead. So I have to run off.
[08:21] <MenZa> !test | BrendanClements
[08:21] <Xodiac13> Jan500: xterm
[08:21] <indus> MenZa: some games like open aereana, alien arena, wesnoth
[08:21] <MenZa> indeed.
[08:21] <G-man> but what if i plan to clear those
[08:21] <G-man> i was wantign to reformat
[08:21] <G-man> then do ubuntu
[08:21] <BrendanClements> I need serious help within 4 hours or my step dad is going to kill me.
[08:21] <indus> i resized to 15 gb now
[08:22] <indus> BrendanClements: k
[08:22] <BrendanClements> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1261667
[08:22] <BrendanClements> Thank you very much in advance.
[08:22] <G-man> so you wouldnt recommend that i just get rid of windows, but keep it rather
[08:22] <rose> where is here?
[08:23] <rose> That's interesting
[08:23] <PapaGoose> ohhh
[08:23] <rose> someone can tell me what's going on here?
[08:23] <rose> it's a chat room?
[08:23] <G-man> lol!
[08:23] <PapaGoose> BrendanClements: don't worry, I've had that before and fixed it so it boots windows
[08:23] <G-man> a/s/l please
[08:23] <G-man> haha
[08:23] <G-man> jk
[08:23] <herenbdy> rose: somewhat
[08:24] <rose> that's great..today is the first time i use ubuntu.
[08:24] <indus> BrendanClements: i dont understand that post
[08:24] <herenbdy> rose: this specific channel is for ubuntu support
[08:24] <antonius602> c'mon...any time i come with a semi hard question..people friggin disapear....
[08:24] <rose> wow..that's great.
[08:24] <G-man> calm down
[08:24] <G-man> playboy
[08:24] <BrendanClements> I tried installing ubuntu on a flash drive for my own personal use on my parent
[08:24] <rose> lol...
[08:24] <BrendanClements> on my parent's computer*
[08:24] <kaushal> hi
[08:24] <BrendanClements> friggen laptop lol
[08:24] <rose> hihihihihi
[08:25] <G-man> rofl
[08:25] <G-man> pwned!
[08:25] <kaushal> anybody using autossh on ubuntu ?
[08:25] <PapaGoose> indus: Grub throws an error 21 if the partition table is screwed up
[08:25] <antonius602> fcking n00buntu
[08:25] <G-man> u pwned ur stepdad's laptop
[08:25] <BrendanClements> when i did so, it for some reason effected my hard drive.
[08:25] <G-man> haha
[08:25] <antonius602> pwned!!! <----gay
[08:25] <G-man> lmfao noobuntu
[08:25] <G-man> haha
[08:25] <PapaGoose> BrendanClements: the first thing to try is to use something like Hiren's bootcd to run partitionmagic or something like that to see if the partition table can be repaired. Your second step is to use an XP boot disk run i think fixboot and fixmbr
[08:25] <kaushal> http://paste.ubuntu.com/267433/
[08:25] <antonius602> yeah, i like that one ll
[08:25] <antonius602> lol*
[08:25] <PapaGoose> that overwrites Grub with the original XP bootloader, returning windows back to normal
[08:25] <BrendanClements> no xp boot dis
[08:26] <G-man> im gonna start tellin noobs to dl that
[08:26] <G-man> on video games
[08:26] <G-man> lol
[08:26] <BrendanClements> hiren's boot cd
[08:27] <indus> BrendanClements: thats for windows
[08:27] <G-man> quick, just need a program/free ware to make my ubuntu cd
[08:27] <indus> can someone be clear what the problem of BrendanClements is
[08:27] <miguelonnnn> please 1 question: i've read that composition window managers work on graphics already done by the x server, but i wonder, why don't make a composition x server so you don't need 2 stages so it'll be faster?
[08:27] <PapaGoose> BrendanClements: hmmm....you could be in trouble then. the other thing you could do is use say an ubuntu live disk to try and repair the partition table using fsck or something, or edit your grub's menu.lst to see if that fixes it, or try to just reinstall grum
[08:27] <G-man> i only have blank DVDs
[08:27] <rose> hi,hubby
[08:27] <antonius602> grub-install
[08:27] <antonius602> from live cd
[08:27] <BrendanClements> I tried reinstalling grub via the packet manager which did not work
[08:28] <antonius602> via LIVE CD
[08:28] <indus> BrendanClements: so u have a problem with grub?
[08:28] <BrendanClements> correct
[08:28] <antonius602> grub-install sda
[08:28] <BrendanClements> apparently. it won't let me boot anything other than the live cd
[08:28] <indus> BrendanClements: can u see the grub menu when u boot system
[08:28] <G-man> what about free easy burner
[08:28] <G-man> i forgot
[08:28] <G-man> i have one
[08:28] <antonius602> is the syntax, i believe
[08:28] <BrendanClements> no just the Error 21
[08:28] <PapaGoose> indus: it says 'grub loading' and then 'error 21' at which point nothing else can be done with grub
[08:28] <BrendanClements> I will try grub-install sda
[08:29] <antonius602> that will work
[08:29] <BrendanClements> correct
[08:29] <indus> PapaGoose: aah thats easy
[08:29] <antonius602> lol
[08:29] <BrendanClements> that is what it says
[08:29] <indus> BrendanClements: follow me
[08:29] <BrendanClements> okayt
[08:29] <indus> BrendanClements: use live cd and boot ubuntu first
[08:29] <BrendanClements> done
[08:29] <PapaGoose> indus: i'm curious too now, the only way I fixed mine what that happened was to use the xp install cd to nuke grub
[08:29] <antonius602> no grub install will fix it...papa
[08:30] <antonius602> i've done something kind of similar...and that worked
[08:30] <Dayofswords> nuke =p
[08:30] <BrendanClements> c4
[08:30] <BrendanClements> indus you're seriously my hero if you can help me fix this
[08:30] <indus> BrendanClements: now in a terminal type sudo grub
[08:31] <antonius602> that's why i perfer boot sector on a seperate EXT2 partition
[08:31] <antonius602> but, this is n00buntu....
[08:31] <antonius602> and that's not kosher here
[08:31] <Boohbah> antonius602: sure it is... you have the option of doing manual partitioning in the installer
[08:31] <antonius602> and someone here is gonna walk the user through it?  id on't think so..
[08:32] <hackercasta> hi
[08:32] <G-man> homeboy told me to do... 10 for / 2 for swap, rest for /home
[08:32] <hackercasta> how are you?
[08:32] <antonius602> i just manually partitioned my hd for an ubuntu install
[08:32] <antonius602> and nobody here has any answers to my questions lol
[08:32] <BrendanClements> "minimal BASH-like line editing is supported. for the first word, TAB lists possible command completions. anywhere else TAB lists the possible completions of a devicefilename.
[08:32] <indus> BrendanClements: did u type the command i gave u
[08:32] <indus> BrendanClements: ok
[08:32] <Zachk18> hello
[08:32] <indus> BrendanClements: now type 'find /boot/grub/stage1' without quotes
[08:33] <hackercasta> i am spanish and i don't speak fluently in english
[08:33] <BrendanClements> error 15, file not found
[08:33] <BrendanClements> it said it was loading stage 1.5
[08:33] <BrendanClements> when i boot, right before the rrror
[08:33] <hackercasta> i'm building a livecd based in ubuntu
[08:33] <BrendanClements> error*
[08:33] <weidhhe> hacker,u can speak spanish ya
[08:33] <jlist> hi, does anyone know why i'm getting this error when running telnet
[08:33] <jlist> lsb_release -r
[08:33] <hackercasta> i use remastersys
[08:33] <antonius602> error 21 still, brendan ?
[08:33] <jlist> telnet: /usr/lib/libstdc++.so.6: version `GLIBCXX_3.4' not found (required by telnet)
[08:33] <LaveliDeara> hi there
[08:33] <jlist> on 9.04
[08:33] <hackercasta> but i have a trouble
[08:34] <indus> BrendanClements: ok open another terminal , and type sudo fdisk -l
[08:34] <BrendanClements> still working on it
[08:34] <Bache> Can anyone help me with AVG installation on Ubuntu 9.04 ? I'm a newbie :-(
[08:34] <LaveliDeara> I have issues with wifi in my sony vaio notebook
[08:34] <error404notfound> i have got some eml and some HTML Nimda viruses in my system while copying data from a Windows Drive, i tried clamtk but it doest clean them, i have to manually quaratine 1700+ file, any other solution?
[08:34] <Bache> Can anyone help me with AVG 8.5 installation on Ubuntu 9.04 ? I'm a newbie :-(
[08:34] <G-man> what program
[08:34] <BrendanClements> done
[08:34] <G-man> i wanna get this show on the road
[08:34] <Bache>  Can anyone help me with AVG 8.5 installation on Ubuntu 9.04 ? I'm a newbie :-(
[08:34] <LaveliDeara> sytem->administrator->hardware drivers a doesn't show any drivers
[08:34] <antonius602> tits show on the road
[08:34] <hackercasta> mi livecd need use a nfs server and to do it i need use aufs module
[08:34] <indus> !paste | BrendanClements
[08:34] <weidhhe> error,write a script
[08:35] <Bache>  Can anyone help me with AVG 8.5 installation on Ubuntu 9.04 ? I'm a newbie :-(
[08:35] <hackercasta> Bache
[08:35] <Lartza_> What would be lightweight music player with library function?
[08:35] <G-man> if any of u guys lookign for some good times check out MetropolisReborndotcom
[08:35] <Dayofswords> avg has a linux version?
[08:35] <G-man> great free Ultima Online server
[08:35] <hackercasta> AVG to scan windows files?¿
[08:36] <Bluey> Bache - okay I'll bite - why are you installing a windows a/v scanner on linux?
[08:36] <weidhhe> haha
[08:36] <weidhhe> this is one of typical ubuntuers
[08:36] <Dayofswords> get clamAV if your really want a virus scanner
[08:37] <BrendanClements> @indus - i'm on a laptop typing the desktop results, give me a second to get it into the paste url
[08:37] <Lartza_> Would listen be the best choice?
[08:37] <G-man> dude... u don't need AVG on ubuntu
[08:37] <indus> BrendanClements:  type 'find /boot/grub/stage1' without quotes gives error?
[08:37] <G-man> unless u like dippin in other people's sugar bowls....
[08:37] <G-man> hehe
[08:38] <Lartza_> G-man: lol
[08:38] <Bluey> :-)
[08:38] <drygrain> Lartza_, i'm using xmms
[08:38] <drygrain> Lartza_, it reminds me of winamp
[08:38] <Lartza_> drygrain: BUt it doesn't have that great library function and I want gui
[08:38] <drygrain> me too actually
[08:38] <Lartza_> I want and need a library
[08:38] <drygrain> let me know
[08:38] <drygrain> when you find one
[08:38] <drygrain> :)
[08:38] <Lartza_> ...
[08:38] <G-man> name something i can DL of the net , to burn me a Disc of ubuntu
[08:38] <G-man> the iso
[08:38] <weidhhe> xmms seems can not support unicode display?
[08:39] <Lartza_> drygrain: FInd what exactly?
[08:39] <Bluey> nero
[08:39] <G-man> bah
[08:39] <G-man> that shit takes forever
[08:39] <drygrain> a music player with a library
[08:39] <Lartza_> SO, music players with library function, listen, amarok, banshee, rhythmbox and banshee
[08:39] <drygrain> i dont really like xmms to be honest
[08:39] <BrendanClements> @indus yes it does, error 15: file not found. copying the hard drive results now on the paste url
[08:39] <Lartza_> Those are what I know
[08:39] <sub[t]rnl> jlist: try sudo apt-get install build-essentials
[08:39] <weidhhe> drygrain,what do u meant when saying library?
[08:39] <drygrain> amarok wouldnt work for me
[08:40] <Bluey> dry -- what happens?
[08:40] <drygrain> i dont remember
[08:40] <weidhhe> amarok seems to be best..
[08:40] <Lartza_> drygrain: Listen, amarok, rhythmbox, banshee, songbird
[08:40] <sub[t]rnl> jlist: looks like you might be missing your libc6-dev, this will take care of it for you
[08:40] <jlist> sub[t]rnl: i get the same error when running apt-get
[08:40] <Lartza_> SO what would be light?
[08:40] <Bluey> I have amarok 1.4 working on ubuntu 9.04
[08:40] <weidhhe> u can expand it freely if possible
[08:40] <Lartza_> I have limited resources on my computer
[08:40] <Lartza_> Listen?
[08:40] <Bluey> 2.x had too many things missing
[08:40] <kaushal> checking in again for my query
[08:40] <kaushal> ?
[08:40] <drygrain> does it have library?
[08:40] <sub[t]rnl> jlist: mind showing the exact error when you run apt-get?
[08:40] <jlist> sub[t]rnl: i do have build-essential. i have gcc
[08:40] <drygrain> sorted by artist etc
[08:40] <Lartza_> drygrain: What?
[08:40] <G-man> btw what file system should i use
[08:40] <G-man> for ubuntu
[08:41] <Lartza_> Listen? Yes of course
[08:41] <drygrain> is there iTunes for Linux :D
[08:41] <Bluey> dry - yes...
[08:41] <Lartza_> No...
[08:41] <Bluey> dry -- not that I am aware of
[08:41] <G-man> when i re partition
[08:41] <herenbdy> dylnuge: you can run it under wine if you want to
[08:41] <herenbdy> dylnuge: but there are plenty of other media players
[08:41] <Lartza_> iTunes is WIndows and Max only
[08:41] <weidhhe>  :D
[08:41] <Lartza_> *Mac
[08:41] <drygrain> ah
[08:41] <jlist> sub[t]rnl: i sent a pm
[08:41] <herenbdy> Lartza_: itunes works onder wine
[08:41] <sub[t]rnl> jlist: kk
[08:41] <drygrain> well is there an open source itunes clone?
[08:41] <prince_jammys> !itunes
[08:41] <herenbdy> drygrain: dozens of them
[08:41] <Bluey> dry - no...
[08:41] <Lartza_> Okey, but for my question, listen as a lightweight music player with library or something else??
[08:42] <weidhhe> should have ...
[08:42] <G-man> hey
[08:42] <herenbdy> drygrain: wait, do you want ipod specific functionality, or just media playing?
[08:42] <G-man> what file system
[08:42] <G-man> when i re format
[08:42] <G-man> its gonna ask
[08:42] <Lartza_> G-man: ext
[08:42] <G-man> which one is best for ubuntu
[08:42] <drygrain> ipod function would be nice
[08:42] <herenbdy> G-man: ext3/4
[08:42] <indus> BrendanClements: iam waiting,
[08:42] <drygrain> i have an ipod shuffle
[08:42] <Bluey> gman - I am partial to reiserfs
[08:42] <weidhhe> no best,just one u feel handy
[08:42] <sub[t]rnl> jlist: looks like a sym link is off, oddly
[08:42] <drygrain> is it banshee then?
[08:42] <Lartza_> !players
[08:43] <G-man> not gonna make a significant difference is it
[08:43] <G-man> ?
[08:43] <jlist> sub[t]rnl: oh.
[08:43] <emydvx> hi
[08:43] <BrendanClements> @indus http://paste.ubuntu.com/267776/
[08:43] <herenbdy> G-man: ext4 is supposed to perform better
[08:43] <Bluey> hello emy
[08:43] <drygrain> herenbdy, which one has ipod functionality?
[08:43] <Lovecraft> weidhhe, C'mon .. dance for us.  We miss your witty repartee over in ##linux
[08:43] <G-man> so do ext 4
[08:43] <sub[t]rnl> jlist: hrmn..
[08:43] <G-man> if it lets me
[08:43] <Bluey> heren -- yes but the defaults for disc writes --
[08:43] <G-man> ?
[08:43] <Bluey> is bad
[08:43] <BrendanClements> Yes it does jump from 3 to 5 and yes the id is "f" for sda3
[08:44] <weidhhe> lovecraft,how could u follow me?
[08:44] <weidhhe> haha
[08:44] <suigeneris> how can I negate a search with find? ie. search for non-mp3 files
[08:44] <herenbdy> G-man: yeah
[08:44] <sub[t]rnl> jlist: ls -al /usr/lib/libstdc++.so.6 shows what?
[08:44] <G-man> which one is good
[08:44] <herenbdy> drygrain: i'm not sure, I think rhythymbox might support ipods
[08:44] <herenbdy> G-man: which what is good?
[08:44] <G-man> if i plan on playing a 2d windows game
[08:44] <G-man> file system
[08:44] <BrendanClements> lol, solitaire Gman?
[08:44] <G-man> Ultima Online
[08:44] <Bluey>  reiser works fine with wine
[08:44] <G-man> best game forever
[08:44] <Lartza_> Hey drygrain
[08:44] <jlist> sub[t]rnl: lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 19 2009-08-03 18:40 /usr/lib/libstdc++.so.6 -> libstdc++.so.6.0.10
[08:45] <herenbdy> G-man: no reasno to use a specific file system for a game
[08:45] <nnull> G-man→ anyone still play it?
[08:45] <indus> BrendanClements: you dont seem to have an ubuntu partition there
[08:45] <Bluey> yeah in some cases I use ext2
[08:45] <Lartza_> drygrain: "Are you sick of audio players that think they know how to organize your music for you?"
[08:45] <herenbdy> G-man: unless the game ahs multi-100MB files or something
[08:45] <G-man> www.metropolisreborn.cam
[08:45] <sub[t]rnl> jlist: welp, that looks normal
[08:45] <indus> BrendanClements: how exactly are you booting ubuntu?
[08:45] <BrendanClements> live cd
[08:45] <prince_jammys> suigeneris: find /toplevel_dir -type -f ! -iname '*.mp3'
[08:45] <antonius602> olde english + fruit punch = surprisingly good
[08:45] <BrendanClements> it WAS installed onto a flash drive
[08:45] <Bluey> fs is really a personal choice -- just not fat....
[08:45] <antonius602> whoops....wrong tab lol
[08:45] <G-man> i just remember installing before
[08:45] <prince_jammys> suigeneris: -type f, not -type -f
[08:46] <suigeneris> prince_jammys, thanks
[08:46] <G-man> and i read alot about it on the internet... it was really mixed emotions about the best file system to use
[08:46] <G-man> im not gonna lie, im a gamer and i watch movies, music, homework etc.
[08:46] <Bluey> gman -- what do you plan to do?  desktop?
[08:46] <BrendanClements> @indus I checked the flash drive, it was empty before and had 400 mb of installed ubuntu stuff on it after. i don't know where this grub installed to
[08:46] <antonius602> LVM = garbage
[08:46] <indus> BrendanClements: what do you mean 'installed' to a flash drive
[08:46] <G-man> aye, its a desktop
[08:46] <antonius602> ext4 was good to me..but stay away from LVM crap
[08:46] <herenbdy> LVM?
[08:46] <BrendanClements> i ran a live cd and went to install it, from the options i selected my 8 gb flash drive as the install directory
[08:46] <G-man> u got a brand new desktop
[08:46] <G-man> or what
[08:46] <Bluey> g-man - I'd go with ext3 / ext 4 /reiser
[08:47] <antonius602> linux volume
[08:47] <weidhhe> best file system should be ntfs,now 3.1 edition,,,m$ should opensouce it to linux lovers
[08:47] <jlist> sub[t]rnl: it's similar to the one described here http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=769649 but mine is about /usr/lib/... as opposed to /usr/local/lib
[08:47] <antonius602> just stay away from it....don't get curious lol
[08:47] <antonius602> like homosexuality.....better to just not get curious
[08:47] <G-man> lol
[08:47] <G-man> so is there like a "default"
[08:47] <herenbdy> MS hates the GPL
[08:47] <G-man> cuz i remember it asking me that question
[08:48] <herenbdy> G-man: ext3/4 are the defaults for ubuntu
[08:48] <G-man> which file system
[08:48] <G-man> okay
[08:48] <prince_jammys> G-man: go with ext3 if you don't know which to select.
[08:48] <G-man> what does the 3 or 4 represent
[08:48] <G-man> ?
[08:48] <antonius602> herenbdy stick with that....
[08:48] <indus> ext4 is not default
[08:48] <herenbdy> antonius602: stick with what?
[08:48] <antonius602> i did alternate install 9.04. and LVM was an option
[08:48] <herenbdy> ext4 will be default in karmic iirc?
[08:48] <indus> !ext4
[08:48] <antonius602> herenbdy EXT3
[08:48] <herenbdy> what does LVM mean?
[08:48] <weidhhe> ext4 has little improvement over ext3....
[08:48] <herenbdy> !lvm
[08:48] <indus> ext4 is default in karmic for fresh installs yes
[08:48] <antonius602> linux volume media
[08:48] <herenbdy> ohhh
[08:48] <antonius602> media?
[08:49] <herenbdy> software raid
[08:49] <G-man> better for movies
[08:49] <G-man> or what
[08:49] <indus> but those who upgrade from ext3 will remain on ext3
[08:49] <antonius602> maybe..but...it's a single partition, broken into several...ur boot..swap...and /
[08:49] <PapaGoose> BrendanClements: do you still get error 21 if you try and boot with the usb stick in?
[08:49] <sub[t]rnl> jlist: try this.. echo /usr/lib/ | sudo tee -a /etc/ld.so.conf.d/libc.conf && sudo ldconfig
[08:49] <antonius602> fcking crazy hard to mount...if need of emergency rescue
[08:49] <herenbdy> G-man: you can use the same file system for everything unless you have a very special need, ie: video editing
[08:49] <indus> BrendanClements: i dont have all the time in the world
[08:49] <antonius602> lvm..hta is
[08:49] <antonius602> that is
[08:50] <BrendanClements> sorry, what?
[08:50] <sub[t]rnl> jlist: basically supplying the path to your libc.conf
[08:50] <G-man> im gonna do (/10) (2swap) (/home rest of hd)
[08:50] <indus> !language > antonius602
[08:50] <G-man> on ext 3
[08:50] <antonius602> ffs
[08:50] <G-man> i guess
[08:50] <indus> BrendanClements: i asked a question, how did you 'install' to flash drive
[08:50] <G-man> i would like to know what the difference is
[08:50] <jlist> sub[t]rnl: it outputs /usr/lib/
[08:50] <miguelonnnn> please tell me, if i undertood what i read, composition x servers do an additional step to display graphics, why don't make simply a x composition server, so the output is already composited and avoid two stages which makes it slower?
[08:50] <BrendanClements> I think i missed something, i was waiting for you. i apologize for the inconvienence and appreciate your patience
[08:50] <G-man> but i dont think anybody really knows
[08:50] <Lartza_> what is the difference in xmms, xmms2 and mpd?
[08:51] <sub[t]rnl> jlist: correct, but it also adds it to the file, now try running apt
[08:51] <jlist> sub[t]rnl: i'm not sure what it means, though.
[08:51] <BrendanClements> @indus i said above that i ran the live cd and selected the flash drive as the install directory
[08:51] <antonius602> Lartza_ they will all play ur music lol
[08:51] <jlist> sub[t]rnl: just ran apt-get again, same errors
[08:51] <indus> BrendanClements: oh ok
[08:51] <BrendanClements> once again, sorry and thanks
[08:51] <sub[t]rnl> jlist did you run ldconfig?
[08:51] <indus> BrendanClements: ok
[08:51] <drygrain> Lartza_, i went with banshee
[08:51] <G-man> so which should i DL the 9.04 desktop or the 8.04
[08:51] <Lartza_> Well I know difference of xmms and xmms2/mpd
[08:52] <jlist> sub[t]rnl: yes
[08:52] <indus> BrendanClements: is the flash drive plugged in now?
[08:52] <drygrain> and vlc
[08:52] <G-man> 8.04 says maintained until 2011
[08:52] <BrendanClements> just ran a search for "grub" on my main boot drive and only found 4 .gif files :(
[08:52] <weidhhe> g-man,,use slackware  ya
[08:52] <Lartza_> But, xmms2 vs mpd
[08:52] <jlist> sub[t]rnl: actually /usr/lib/ is already in there. I see two lines of it now
[08:52] <herenbdy> G-man: 9.04 is newer, but is maintained for a shorter period
[08:52] <Lartza_> drygrain: VLC rocks for media other than music
[08:52] <herenbdy> G-man: 9.10 (coming out next april) will be the next long-term release
[08:52] <jlist> sub[t]rnl: /usr/local/lib in front of /usr/lib/
[08:52] <indus> herenbdy: thats 10.04
[08:52] <G-man> will i be able to upgrade
[08:52] <G-man> within ubuntu
[08:52] <G-man> ?
[08:52] <herenbdy> err, yeah :)
[08:52] <herenbdy> G-man: yes
[08:53] <sub[t]rnl> sub[t]rnl: on top of, right?
[08:53] <biesbjerg> Hi, I setup a webserver on my ubuntu 8.04, NATted port 80 to the internal IP - but I'm not able to access the webserver by using the external IP? CanYouSeeMe.org confirms port 80 is open and natted to the correct internal IP - so what have I missed?
[08:53] <herenbdy> G-man: though fresh installs are usually cleaner
[08:53] <G-man> so use 8.04
[08:53] <sub[t]rnl> jlist: on top of, right?
[08:53] <G-man> then take the leap
[08:53] <G-man> later on
[08:53] <jlist> sub[t]rnl: sorry on top of
[08:53] <herenbdy> biesbjerg: most ISPs block port 80
[08:53] <indus> BrendanClements: i aks again, is the flash drive plugged in now?
[08:53] <G-man> Roger!
[08:53] <BrendanClements> negative
[08:53] <sub[t]rnl> jlist: wonder why its complaining...
[08:53] <drygrain> how hard is it to upgrade to newest stable release?
[08:53] <indus> BrendanClements: then how do u expect it to boot?
[08:53] <BrendanClements> but when it was i still got the grub error
[08:53] <sub[t]rnl> hrm
[08:53] <herenbdy> biesbjerg: even though I specifically forwad port 80 on my router, I cannot access port 80 externally
[08:53] <BrendanClements> let me try it again
[08:53] <Jorsher> hello :) can someone help me with a quick filesystem question?
[08:53] <herenbdy> biesbjerg: oh... canyouseeme.org can see you, nvm
[08:54] <weidhhe> biesbjerg,tell me ur ip,let me scan u~~~~~~~~!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
[08:54] <indus> BrendanClements:yes plug it in then do the find /boot/grub/stage1
[08:54] <weidhhe> haha
[08:54] <drygrain> lol weidhhe
[08:54] <G-man> 32 or 64 ?
[08:54] <G-man> i have a pentium d
[08:54] <G-man> lol
[08:54] <G-man> 925
[08:54] <drygrain> take it to undernet
[08:54] <FloodBot3> G-man: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[08:54] <herenbdy> G-man: 32bit
[08:54] <G-man> roger
[08:54] <biesbjerg> weidhhe: Go ahead ;) /whois biesbjerg
[08:55] <weidhhe>  :|
[08:55] <drygrain> no no no
[08:55] <BrendanClements> Sorry indus. I figured if the flash drive wasn't plugged in then grub had to be on the hd :( re-booting live cd, almost in now
[08:55] <drygrain> dont put your real name in the real name box
[08:55] <drygrain> on irc
[08:55] <drygrain> *facepalm*
[08:55] <BrendanClements> i aint hard to find
[08:55] <Jorsher> how do i change my primary filesystem back to read-write from read only?
[08:55] <drygrain> lol
[08:55] <BrendanClements> 27 terrace street, montpelier vermont
[08:56] <BrendanClements> come get me
[08:56] <drygrain> lol
[08:56] <G-man> damn server down or what
[08:56] <G-man> wont let me DL
[08:56] <drygrain> i'll sign you up for free gay porn ad mailing lists
[08:56] <G-man> 8.04
[08:56] <drygrain> :/
[08:56] <BrendanClements> i'll be waiting with my baretta 40 cal... now that's just messed up
[08:56] <drygrain> and so will romanians on undernet
[08:56] <drygrain> so lol2u
[08:56] <drygrain> :]
[08:56] <Jorsher> anyone know?
[08:57] <BrendanClements> dirty... very dirty (waits for live cd...)
[08:57] <drygrain> lol
[08:57] <drygrain> so guys
[08:58] <drygrain> i have this netbook
[08:58] <drygrain> and its not very good at rendering 3d
[08:58] <bashca> any 1 can help me  fix  this The OAFIID error is not a GnoMenu bug... its a gnome-panel bug.
[08:58] <drygrain> how do i find out what video card i have and how i can improve its functionality?
[08:58] <Decessus> drygrain, that's because it's a netbook
[08:58] <laclasse> drygrain, lspci | grep VGA
[08:58] <weidhhe> dry,lspci
[08:58] <weidhhe> hmmmm
[08:58] <BrendanClements> @indus "no such file or directory" but i am certain that this is because i am in live cd and the terminal starts out in the default place
[08:58] <drygrain> lspci?
[08:58] <weidhhe> or |grep video
[08:58] <drygrain> in terminal?
[08:59] <Decessus> They're not made for power, more so portability.
[08:59] <weidhhe> yes
[08:59] <AdvoWork> Hi there. i want to upgrade the CPU for my computer/server running ubuntu. Its not dual core, so am i safe/ok to swap it, i.e it wont effect anything(kernel)?
[08:59] <BrendanClements> what was the command to find the hard drives again so i can do a cd?
[08:59] <laclasse> drygrain, and as mentionned before, don't expect netbook to excel at 'rendering 3d'
[08:59] <bacardi1993> hey guys i have a question. i wont to set up an bridged interface for a virtualbox on an ubuntu 8.04 server, because i have only remote access i want to use a second ip address to do this. but i don't have any idea how to do this
[08:59] <Lartza_> Does music player dameon use music library/database?
[08:59] <S_A> Hi! How can i get resolution of 1400x990 ? I am using Intel 865G and Ubuntu 9.04.
[08:59] <prince_jammys> BrendanClements: maybe you're talking about sudo fdisk -l
[08:59] <Dulak> My netbook 3d is slooow
[08:59] <drygrain> 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Mobile 945GME Express Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 03)
[09:00] <drygrain> 00:02.1 Display controller: Intel Corporation Mobile 945GM/GMS/GME, 943/940GML Express Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 03)
[09:00] <laclasse> S_A, xrandr -s 1440x900
[09:00] <drygrain> :x
[09:00] <PapaGoose> BrendanClements: sudo fdisk -l ?
[09:00] <BrendanClements> thanks papa
[09:00] <prince_jammys> drygrain: what ubuntu release?
[09:00] <Jorsher> nvm i found it, sudo -o remount -t sda1 /dev/sda1
[09:00] <Jorsher> thanks anyway...
[09:00] <drygrain> 9.04
[09:00] <prince_jammys> drygrain: jaunty + intel can be quite a headache.
[09:00] <G-man> bah
[09:01] <G-man> 9.04 it is
[09:01] <G-man> lol
[09:01] <S_A> laclasse: I already checked. xrandr doesn;t list this in supported mdoes
[09:01] <drygrain> is that so
[09:01] <drygrain> intel atom processor
[09:01] <drygrain> :x
[09:01] <prince_jammys> drygrain: yes, check the release notes. (or upgrade notes_
[09:01] <G-man> oh wait... can i run UO in 9.04
[09:01] <G-man> ?
[09:01] <BrendanClements> @indus i now have /dev/sdba 1, 2 and 5
[09:01] <G-man> Ultima Online with razor
[09:01] <laclasse> S_A, how do u know the card/monitor can do this then?
[09:01] <ravn2> hey guys, anyone have used any good ocr software in ubuntu?
[09:02] <eueu> Hello, would somebody have any skills to check whether this smb.conf could work to share the whole system w/o restriction? http://vim.pastey.net/124886 no answer on #samba
[09:02] <drygrain> so will karmic work better with intel?
[09:02] <BrendanClements> @indus but this error occurs even when the flash drive is out meaning that the hard drives in the comp are looking for something they shouldn't be
[09:02] <S_A> laclasse: This is very generic wide screen resolution and shud be possible.
[09:02] <timClicks> drygrain: what do you mean by that, which component?
[09:02] <laclasse> S_A, never assume
[09:02] <prince_jammys> drygrain: allegedly yes.
[09:02] <weidhhe> drygrain,u are workong on intel x4500 ,there is no tweak method for the integrated with a low cpu...swich back to xp is the last solution
[09:03] <drygrain> :o
[09:03] <weidhhe>  :D
[09:03] <laclasse> S_A, if you monitor does not give to xrandr the EID data that says 1440x900, then it could be your video bios no catering for that size
[09:03] <drygrain> timClicks, graphics cards
[09:03] <drygrain> timClicks, also the atom processor
[09:03] <prince_jammys> drygrain: i got so frustrated with my intel card, i went back to hardy (which is fine).
[09:03] <laclasse> S_A, i suggest you find the real modes supported by your exact monitor
[09:03] <drygrain> how do i downgrade to hardy
[09:04] <timClicks> drygrain: how confident are you to tweak things yourself?
[09:04] <BrendanClements> @indus, did you copy that?
[09:04] <drygrain> not very, but i can take instruction
[09:04] <prince_jammys> drygrain: downgrading is not supported. you'd have to reinstall :( . look in the ubuntu forums for your card + jaunty, and see if there's any help.
[09:04] <timClicks> drygrain: it may not be ubuntu, you could try searching for other 'window managers'
[09:04] <timClicks> and see how you feel
[09:05] <timClicks> most are very snappy, even on machines with lower specs
[09:05] <drygrain> likee kde/gnome?
[09:05] <PapaGoose> BrendanClements: What does it say in /etc/boot/grub/menu.lst
[09:05] <drygrain> :/
[09:05] <Lartza_> Anywhere I could get mpd debs?
[09:05] <timClicks> drygrain: yip :)
[09:05] <AdvoWork> is it easy enough to upgrade a cpu on a pc running ubuntu? im worried about it not booting up
[09:05] <drygrain> hm
[09:05] <timClicks> drygrain: (you're running gnome now :)
[09:05] <drygrain> yeah i know that much ;)
[09:05] <qiyong> is casper alive?
[09:06] <qiyong> !casper
[09:06] <drygrain> i used redhat once on a box i built as a teenager
[09:06] <drygrain> and used kde
[09:06] <timClicks> okay
[09:06] <weidhhe> AdvoWork,cpu upgrade is irrelevant with os...just go ahead
[09:06] <drygrain> but thats the extent of my linux knowledge
[09:06] <drygrain> because that box soon died :D
[09:06] <weidhhe>  :D
[09:07] <PapaGoose> BrendanClements: what's the output from 'cat /etc/boot/grub/menu.lst' ?
[09:07] <BrendanClements> you mean boot/grub?
[09:07] <ammonkey> AdvoWork: if u change just the cpu then no problem about your ubuntu install.. if u change mother board too it s another story u have to considerate drivers to load befaore mounting your filesystem
[09:07] <PapaGoose> BrendanClements: yes thats what i mean ;)
[09:07] <BrendanClements> I'm reading the file now... trying to get around the hashed out lines, lol
[09:07] <timClicks> drygrain: enlightenment is quite an attractive option
[09:07] <timClicks> http://xwinman.org/enlightenment.php
[09:08] <AdvoWork> ammonkey, at the moment, im just going to change memory, and cpu. so i should be fine?
[09:08] <weidhhe> fluxbox is another decent option...
[09:08] <PapaGoose> BrendanClements: brb 5 mins
[09:08]  * timClicks nods
[09:08] <BrendanClements> okay
[09:09] <G-man> what xubuntu
[09:09] <G-man> alla bout
[09:09] <clearscreen> timClicks / weidhhe: isn't the problem with all these 'lightweight' DE's that you're gonna end up needing the heavier gnome/kde libs anyway because a lot of apps depend on them?
[09:09] <G-man> whats the difference
[09:09] <G-man> between ubuntu and xubuntu
[09:09] <S_A> laclasse: Got it working.
[09:09] <clearscreen> G-man: only the desktop environment, gnome vs xfce
[09:09] <prince_jammys> G-man: ubuntu has the GNOME desktop, and xubuntu has xfce.
[09:09] <G-man> which is better
[09:09] <weidhhe> clearscreen, u r right,much dependent on some libs
[09:09] <G-man> gnome
[09:09] <G-man> ?
[09:09] <S_A> laclasse: Added a modeline and it was up
[09:09] <timClicks> G-man: try them out. see what you think
[09:09] <Madpilot> G-man, 'better' is subjective.
[09:10] <prince_jammys> G-man: xfce is lighter. gnome probably has more features, but is more bloated.
[09:10] <G-man> so xubuntu
[09:10] <Madpilot> G-man, xfce is less resource intensive, if you're running an older machine
[09:10] <weidhhe> but gnome is more elegant...
[09:10] <G-man> this computer came out in 2007
[09:10] <clearscreen> xubuntu if you're still using a pentium 2 ***
[09:11] <Madpilot> G-man, a 2007 machine will run gnome just fine. my machine is older than that.
[09:11] <clearscreen> a 2002 machine will run gnome just fine :P
[09:11] <Trijntje> If I install ubuntu with alternate install, how do I prevent it overwriting my vista partition?
[09:11] <G-man> all of them lighter than xp
[09:11] <f00f> any1 have a server migration guide ?
[09:11] <G-man> i assum
[09:11] <G-man> :)
[09:11] <Bluey> I have a circa 2001 machine that runs gnome just fine..
[09:11] <Bluey> trin - manually partition
[09:11] <Madpilot> G-man, yes. (and please don't use Enter as punctuation!)
[09:12] <BrendanClements> @PaPa: http:/ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1261667
[09:12] <prince_jammys> Trijntje: there'll be a part of the installer which gives you the option to partition as you wish.
[09:12] <weidhhe> build ur own gnome ,erase those u wont use for ever..
[09:12] <indus> BrendanClements: 10 min sorry iam busy now
[09:12] <BrendanClements> @papa my last post quotes the output of that file
[09:12] <Trijntje> prince_jammys: but won't it put grub on the partition with the boot flag? Cause thats where my vista is
[09:13] <rik1> ciao
[09:13] <weidhhe> g-man,u seems wrong.xp is much better in any way except of $$$$
[09:13] <BrendanClements> i think that's what it did because even with the flash drive out it gives me the grub error
[09:13] <clearscreen> Trijntje: grub usually auto detects windows installs and adds them to the boot list
[09:13] <BrendanClements> any idea where the boot list files are?
[09:13] <prince_jammys> Trijntje: you can instruct the installer to leave that partition alone.
[09:14] <piteer> hi
[09:14] <weidhhe> boot list file?its  menu.lst for grub loader
[09:14] <BrendanClements> lol, woulda if i knew how. its a little late now anyway - we're in the recovery phase now
[09:14] <rik1> :-[
[09:14] <clearscreen> BrendanClements: /boot/grub/menu.lst
[09:15] <BrendanClements> that's the ubuntu load file, but you said it installed on the other directory
[09:15] <BrendanClements> there is no "boot" file in the main hard drive
[09:15] <BrendanClements> folder*
[09:15] <weidhhe> BrendanClement, u r lovely ya
[09:15] <weidhhe> haha
[09:16] <BrendanClements> no, i am screwed if i don't get this fixed within a few hours
[09:16] <Trijntje> prince_jammys: I see, but I thought that grub needed to be on the first partition or something like that. But if I just select the correct part of the disk grub will magically figure things out itself?
[09:16] <weidhhe> see:en.wikipedia.org/wiki/boot_loader
[09:17] <RobotCow> what happened to wicd? its not in the repos anymore. how can i get it?
[09:17] <PapaGoose> @BrendanClements ok so it looks like the problem is that the uuid's are incorrect, so the first thing to try is commenting out all of the sections relating to ubuntu, that is all of the lines after 'End Default Options' up to 'END DEBIAN....'
[09:17] <weidhhe> grub can be installed in any partation of mbr!
[09:17] <G-man> when burning ubuntu to cd, do i make data cd / dvd  or dvd video?
[09:17] <weidhhe> or ,not of
[09:17] <prince_jammys> Trijntje: i'm inclined to say the installer will "work it out" (i've done it myself a few times), but consult with others to verify.
[09:17] <G-man> i have dvd discs
[09:17] <PapaGoose> @BrendanClements no idea if that'll work :P but fingers crossed
[09:18] <BrendanClements> okay
[09:18] <BrendanClements> and i should start with the flash drive in?
[09:18] <BrendanClements> keep in mind, i still get the error with the flash drive out
[09:18] <Trijntje> prince_jammys: well, as long as it leaves my vista alone, ill keep a copy of my current menu.lst to manualy add vista if needed
[09:18] <PapaGoose> @BrendanClements the alternative is that grub is going wrong earlier in the boot process, in which case menu.lst won't even be used
[09:19] <PapaGoose> @BrendanClements hmm actually maybe it would be better to try reinstalling grub like someone suggested before
[09:19] <weidhhe> g-man,u need more disk knoweldge,,,data disk and boot disk..audio disk,video disk...
[09:19] <BrendanClements> it won't let me save because i do not have the permissions, lol
[09:19] <BrendanClements> what is the terminal command to reinstall?
[09:19] <|-Gobi-|> does anyone know what is wrong when I ctrl-alt-f2  I just get blank screen not TTY
[09:19] <G-man> i want to make boot disc
[09:19] <G-man> of ubuntu
[09:19] <weidhhe> root (hdx,y)---> setup...
[09:20] <G-man> i have those options in my burning software
[09:20] <chriscohen> hello - i'm running ubuntu 8.04 and i'm having trouble with a cron job that is not running, located in cron.weekly... could someone let me know what i should check in order to make sure it's going to run, please?
[09:20] <prince_jammys> Trijntje: if it's like the minimal installer (which i think it is), at one point you'll reach the Partitioner stage. Select 'manual' and ensure that the windows partition isn't touched at all.
[09:20] <PapaGoose> @BrendanClements actually maybe the bigger problem is that you can't do find /boot/grub/stage1, so grub mightn't even be on the correct drive
[09:20] <Dulak> Get the permissions, then you get the power, then you get the women
[09:21] <PapaGoose> is your USB stick bootable?
[09:21] <Trijntje> prince_jammys: ill do that, thanks for your help
[09:21] <BrendanClements> Well it gives me the error EVEN when the flash drive is out. Keep in mind that the flash drive is what ubuntu was installed onto.
[09:21] <PapaGoose> http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-24113.html
[09:21] <weidhhe> g_man, u wanna burn disk to install ubuntu?its unnecessary
[09:21] <prince_jammys> Trijntje: welcome. do that stage slowly :)
[09:21] <G-man> well i wanted to reformat while i was at it
[09:21] <G-man> as well
[09:21] <G-man> i can do that without cd
[09:21] <G-man> ?
[09:22] <weidhhe> not difficult except one partation...
[09:22] <BrendanClements> @PaPa: at this point i don't even care about ubuntu not working with the flash drive. all i want to do is make it so i can use windows xp again by removing whatever ubuntu installed onto my hard drive
[09:22] <PapaGoose> @BrendanClements ghostintheshell seems to have a working solution
[09:22] <weidhhe> where u locate ur iso file
[09:23] <G-man> i wanted to redo partitoins
[09:23] <G-man> as well
[09:23] <PapaGoose> @BrendanClements yes I understand, i had *exactly* the same problem as you, and I got my windows back by using the XP install disk in recovery mode. but since you don't have it, we need to fix grub instead
[09:23] <G-man> cuz i have three right now for windows xp, one for windows xp, one for programs, and one for downloads
[09:23] <bobthemil> G-man: Well, it's difficult to reformat without the use of a live-cd-esque environment.
[09:23] <PapaGoose> @BrendanClements because without the XP install cd, you can't restore the original NT bootloader that comes with windows
[09:23] <BrendanClements> okay, i see the post
[09:24] <G-man> so use my g-parted cd
[09:24] <weidhhe> u can only change other partations there is no  install files on
[09:24] <G-man> first?
[09:24] <BrendanClements> @weidhhe the iso was burned onto a dis
[09:24] <bobthemil> I'd personally suggest using gparted
[09:24] <PapaGoose> so first step would be to mount your ubuntu partition as suggested
[09:24] <bobthemil> G-man: Well, the ubuntu install CD is equally fine for the job unless you plan on doing advanced partition management.
[09:24] <G-man> yeah i was going to paartition
[09:24] <G-man> i just find thinks are more neat like that
[09:24] <weidhhe> g-man, burn disk la,that 's easist..
[09:24] <bobthemil> The ubuntu live CD is fine to do basic partition management.
[09:25] <PapaGoose> someone else says if you have windows, make sure you install to the device (/dev/hda for example) rather than a partition (/dev/hda1) or else windows will be irreparably damaged
[09:25] <bobthemil> Actually, it's more than fine.
[09:25] <PapaGoose> so keep an eye out for that
[09:25] <BrendanClements> @papa i do not have ab applications>system tools folder. how do i get root access with the default terminal?
[09:25] <G-man> thats what i was asking for a program
[09:25] <bobthemil> If you boot into the live environment on it, then run the gnome-equivalent of "kdesudo gparted" and you'll have a very similar environment to the gparted live distro.
[09:25] <G-man> name so i can dl a image burner
[09:25] <G-man> to make my ubuntu cd, then iw as going to run g parted,
[09:25] <weidhhe> learn to install os from hard disk is necessary...
[09:26] <prince_jammys> G-man: a windows cd image burner?
[09:26] <G-man> aye
[09:26] <PapaGoose> @BrendanClements you just stick 'sudo' in front of any command to run it with root privileges
[09:26] <BrendanClements> thank you. trying now
[09:26] <prince_jammys> G-man: you probably have one already. back in the day, i used to use 'deepburner', which was freeware.
[09:26] <iridian_> what repository should I use as "unstable", I'm on 9.04? I would like to retrieve the latest sqlite3, and I know how to pin the other packages
[09:27] <PapaGoose> actually wait a sec...
[09:27] <iridian_> (and I would like to automate process, so one-off dpkg-buildpackage is disliked option)
[09:27] <PapaGoose> you're going to run into problems
[09:27] <silverfast> G-man ://help.ubuntu.com/community/BurningIsoHowto
[09:27] <PapaGoose> because grub will want to be installed onto an ubuntu installation
[09:27] <bobthemil> PapaGoose, BrendanClements: You should only use sudo for command line programs. When running GUI programs, you should use kdesudo or gnome-sudo depending on your window manager.
[09:27] <BrendanClements> yes i am
[09:27] <G-man> thanks
[09:28] <silverfast> G-man :https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BurningIsoHowto
[09:28] <PapaGoose> @bobthemil: mkdir /mnt/* is command line ;)
[09:28] <BrendanClements> which is on the flash drive. the problem is not in the flash drive it is on the hard drive :(
[09:28] <prince_jammys> iridian_: perhaps it's available from a ppa.
[09:28] <PapaGoose> thats right...hmmm....
[09:28] <bobthemil> PapaGoose: I was clarifying for future reference.
[09:28] <PapaGoose> @BrendanClements: is there no way at all to get the XP install cd?
[09:28] <BrendanClements> well, maybe there IS a problem there but i really don't care if that one gets fixed. just whatever it screwed up in the windows drive
[09:29] <PapaGoose> @BrendanClements: because if you can get it, its like a 5 minute fix
[09:29] <BrendanClements> negative
[09:29] <BrendanClements> blah this sucks
[09:29] <iridian_> prince_jammys: it's not just a one-off thing, as the developer team developing the other module update their dependencies every now and then, I would like to get it from a 'stable' unstable source
[09:29] <ninel> hi after upgrading to 9.04 I cant activate my HP520's wifi  but I upgraded it befor too from 8.04 to 8.11
[09:29] <silverfast> G-man : you can also partition with http://gparted.sourceforge.net/ live CD
[09:29] <iridian_> so that I could just apt-get install -t unstable sqlite3 when I need to update to the latest
[09:29] <prince_jammys> iridian_: ok, it seemed like a bad idea :)
[09:30] <prince_jammys> the ppa, that is.
[09:30] <weidhhe> ninel,what is ur wireless chip?
[09:30] <ninel> its HP520 laptop
[09:30] <iridian_> (is there another channel I might be wanting to ask this question?)
[09:31] <G-man> there we go.. its burning now
[09:31] <G-man> im gonna go ahead and redo gparted as well
[09:31] <weidhhe> i know ,intel /athoes/bcm?
[09:31] <G-man> cuz for whatever reason i coudlnt get my old cd to run
[09:31] <G-man> i think it was scratched
[09:31] <ninel> probably intel
[09:31] <weidhhe> lspci |grep wireless
[09:31] <ninel> it works from live CD @weidhhe
[09:32] <BrendanClements> man this would be so simple if i just knew what file grub edited on the main hard drive
[09:32] <BrendanClements> grrrrrr
[09:32] <remoteCTR1> ok guys i got a tricky one here: i deleted a partition in a multi boot environment from within windows xp, now when grub loads i get an error 15 stating file not found... i have started a live cd now and would like to restore grub, how do i do that?
[09:33] <PapaGoose> @BrendanClements: it didn't edit a file per se, it changed your bootloader (outside the partition) so as i understand, there's no file on the drive to change
[09:33] <weidhhe> ninel,ur system seems messed up now...
[09:33] <PapaGoose> @BrendanClements: you change it back with the XP installer :P
[09:33] <BrendanClements> there must be a way to access it outside of the kernel level :(
[09:33] <PapaGoose> @remoteCTR1 http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24113
[09:33] <remoteCTR1> BrendanClements, same problem as me or whaut? :D
[09:34] <BrendanClements> error 21 with grub
[09:34] <ninel> weidhhe yep but I wanted to recover this
[09:34] <PapaGoose> @remoteCTR1: that might help, or else try looking at /boot/grub/menu.lst and see if removing invalid entries helps (I assume you didn't delete the partition grub was on)
[09:35] <G-man> ah no wonder gparted wont work right
[09:35] <ninel> I have switched many kernels
[09:35] <G-man> on the site for gpated i get this warning
[09:35] <SpartanDK> hey guys,i have a problem,help me
[09:35] <ninel> even tried 2.6.30 but no use
[09:35] <G-man> ,///WARNING/// Due to a hardware/firmware bug, it's _NOT_ recommended to run GParted live on some types of HP Pavilion machines. Otherwise your VGA card fan might be dead. For more info, please refer to this bug report.
[09:35] <G-man> but thats strange because i've ran it before without problems
[09:36] <weidhhe> to recover ur wireless card,its difficult...specify the wireless chip ,check relevant module...check driver...
[09:36] <remoteCTR1> PapaGoose, ermm... that link leads me to a a site where i can choose from genereal help, installation & upgrades, securitty discussions, etc... ?  and nope i had grub in the masterbootrecord actually...
[09:36] <Trijntje> !ask| SpartanDK
[09:36] <silverfast> BrendanClements : read http://members.iinet.net.au/~herman546/p15.html#21
[09:36] <ninel> could you specify which commandlines I could use to get the wifi chip/driver etc?
[09:37] <PapaGoose> @remoteCTR1: wierd, it works for me. Maybe its cause I'm logged in. Try here instead http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-24113.html
[09:37] <weidhhe> lspci |grep wireless
[09:37] <JoanaSoraia22> ola
[09:37] <JoanaSoraia22> SOFTWARE GRATUITO: WWW.LEGALIZA-TE.NET
[09:37] <FloodBot3> JoanaSoraia22: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[09:37] <Trijntje> SpartanDK: please talk in the channel, that way other people can read along and help you
[09:37] <weidhhe> check kernel edition with uname -r
[09:37] <JoanaSoraia22> true
[09:37] <JoanaSoraia22> but now SOFTWARE GRATUITO: WWW.LEGALIZA-TE.NET
[09:38] <weidhhe> install  driver  manually
[09:38] <remoteCTR1> PapaGoose, ah that looks fine! thanks man!:)
[09:38] <weidhhe> lsmod to list modules relevant to wireless
[09:38] <ninel> weidhhe I use kernel 2.6.30 now
[09:38] <PapaGoose> @BrendanClements http://www.supergrubdisk.org/ looks like the way to go
[09:38] <SpartanDK> okay,i uninstall Ubuntu,and i have a backup download file,so,i install it agains,what will i do with back up file?(i install inside Windows)
[09:39] <prince_jammys> MadAGu: darned tab completion :)
[09:39] <weidhhe> output lspci |grep wireless
[09:39] <prince_jammys> Madpilot: : darned tab completion :)
[09:39] <ninel> turning on the laptop to report you
[09:39] <miguelonnnn> hi please, 1 quetsion, if composition window managers like compiz need 2 stages, first simple output then modding output to make effects, why don't they make a composition x server, so you don't need second steps and you get straight compped graphics?
[09:39] <Trijntje> SpartanDK: I dont undertand, what is stored in the backup file?
[09:39] <BrendanClements> @papa, ill check that out, but could this be a "patch" per se?
[09:39] <BrendanClements> http://members.iinet.net.au/~herman546/p15.html#How_to_make_a_separate_Grub_Partition_
[09:39] <Madpilot> prince_jammys, crap, thanks. didn't notice I'd kicked the wrong person.
[09:39] <SpartanDK> downloaded files,it said
[09:39] <Madpilot> prince_jammys, ops fail :)
[09:40] <prince_jammys> Madpilot: then I messaged the wrong person for the same reason!
[09:40] <prince_jammys> heh
[09:40] <weidhhe> time for super here in shanghai of china~!!!!!!!
[09:40] <weidhhe> enjoy
[09:40] <weidhhe> haha
[09:40] <MadAGu> @prince_jammys: what?
[09:40] <prince_jammys> MadAGu: wrong nick, sorry.
[09:40] <ninel> its fasting month here in Bangladesh ;)
[09:40] <Trijntje> SpartanDK: if you dont know what kind of files it are, why did you backup them?
[09:40] <PapaGoose> @BrendanClements http://www.supergrubdisk.org/w/index.php5?title=UninstallGRUB
[09:40] <PapaGoose> that looks like what you want?
[09:40] <G-man> next time i log into here i should be on ubuntu , take care
[09:41] <SpartanDK> no,it;s automaticly
[09:41] <weidhhe> g-man ,u have a long way to go la
[09:41] <SpartanDK> i did not backup these files
[09:41] <MadAGu> prince_jammys: no problem :)
[09:41] <weidhhe> ninel,pay attention to ur security
[09:42] <weidhhe> hehe
[09:42] <prince_jammys> MadAGu: i was making a comment about messaging the wrong nick by using tab completion, and i made the mistake myself.
[09:42] <ninel> which secury bro?
[09:42] <Trijntje> SpartanDK: the how did you get those files? where did you find them on you system?
[09:42] <ninel> Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 3945ABG [Golan]
[09:42] <weidhhe> something with Bangladesh...
[09:43] <BrendanClements> @papa thank you for the help. i will be gone for a bit while i concentrate on getting through this crap. thanks again, i'll report back with the results
[09:43] <optimus_p> hi
[09:43] <weidhhe> lsmod |grep iw
[09:43] <ninel> weidhhe: is it related to IT or politics?
[09:43] <weidhhe> lsmod |grep 8021
[09:44] <SpartanDK> i used Ubuntu,i downloaded them when i used Ubuntu,and now,when i uninstalled it,i have a option,to backup downloaded files,thats all
[09:44] <ninel> got a table of data with  grep iw
[09:44] <weidhhe> i know...
[09:45] <Trijntje> SpartanDK: Hmm, then my guess would be that if you had no important data on your ubuntu system, you can safely ignore the backup
[09:45] <SpartanDK> okay guy,thank you
[09:45] <weidhhe> ninel,reinstall the driver of  intel 3945!
[09:45] <ninel> how to do that
[09:46] <weidhhe>  8-)
[09:46] <ninel> yes its 3945 :)
[09:46] <weidhhe> google intel 3945 chip linux
[09:46] <ninel> okie
[09:46] <PapaGoose> @BrendanClements just remember that all your stuff is still there, if necessary you can get the XP install disc at a later date and recover it, so don't panic and do anything too drastic
[09:47] <weidhhe> leave for super now..
[09:47] <weidhhe> ninel,good luck ya
[09:47] <ninel> okay I'm looking up
[09:47] <ninel> thanks buddy
[09:51] <prospire> how can I go to root in Konsole?
[09:51] <leaf-sheep> More of thoughts, opinions and feedbacks than issue...  Seems like easier than the alternatives after all...
[09:58] <BrendanClements> let me check
[09:58] <grouse> trupheenix, there should be a list of packages somewhere on the Ubuntu site, but I don't seem to be able to find it atm
[09:58] <antonius602> sudo replace my wife with an appreciative african refugee
[09:59] <shivek> what's the command for removing prvious versions of the kernel.
[09:59] <antonius602> dammit...that was supposed to be in my termial
[09:59] <BrendanClements> it pretends to load the vaio system recovery utility... then once it's totally loaded it says:
[09:59] <BrendanClements> "the session manager initialization system process terminated unexpectedly with a status of 0xc000003a"
[10:00] <PapaGoose> ohhh....
[10:00] <PapaGoose> why is it loading the vaio system recovery?