[00:00] <Snowhog> Merlin__: Open a console and type: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install kpackagekit
[00:06] <Merlin__> thanks snowhog  that and it told me to insert the kubuntu cdrom  whichi did and got this in the konsole Please use apt-cdrom to make this CD-ROM recognized by APT. apt-get update cannot be used to add new CD-ROMs
[00:06] <Merlin__> Err cdrom://Kubuntu 10.10 _Maverick Meerkat_ - Release i386 (20101007) maverick/restricted i386 Packages
[00:06] <Merlin__>   Please use apt-cdrom to make this CD-ROM recognized by APT. apt-get update cannot be used to add new CD-ROMs
[00:06] <Merlin__> Fetched 454kB in 2min 33s (2,956B/s)
[00:06] <Merlin__> W: Failed to fetch cdrom://Kubuntu 10.10 _Maverick Meerkat_ - Release i386 (20101007)/dists/maverick/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz  Please use apt-cdrom to make this CD-ROM recognized by APT. apt-get update cannot be used to add new CD-ROMs
[00:06] <FloodBotK3> Merlin__: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:07] <Snowhog> Merlin__: Do you have Kubuntu installed on your PC, or are you running it from a LIveCD?
[00:07] <Merlin__> i have it installed running it now
[00:09] <Snowhog> Merlin__: Then you still have the CD as an active repository. Here's how you fix that. Press Alt+F2 and type: kdesudo kate /etc/apt/sources.list and press enter. Type your password when prompted. Kate will open with the sources.list file 'as root' for editing. Comment (put a # ) in front of the line that contains the cd-rom as a repository. Save and close.
[00:16] <Merlin__> ok got tghat done ran it again do i do anything else ?
[00:18] <Snowhog> Merlin__: If you ran the commands I cited earlier, then KPackageKit is installed. It will be in the K Menu under System, or you can launch it by pressing Alt+F2 and typing: kpackagekit
[00:21] <Merlin__> i ran the commands its still not there at the end it ended whit hthe package hl1430lpr needs to be  reinstalled but it can not find an archive for it
[00:26] <Snowhog> Merlin__: Run this in a console: sudo apt-get install -f && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[00:29] <Merlin__> ok done that how do i get rid of that line thats telling me to reinstall that hl1430lpr package
[00:31] <Merlin__> i have done all that it is still not installed
[00:41] <Merlin__> snowhog i ran all those commands and it is still not showing installed
[00:55] <ebeyer> hi
[00:56] <ebeyer> Long-time ubuntu user trying kubuntu for the first time.. trying to get 4.6 to install.  I think I set up the backport repository correctly but I can't get the system to update, or really to acknowledge that there's anything new to update.
[00:57] <ebeyer> I tried following the directions here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[00:57] <ebeyer> By the way, why are the fonts in my windows so huge?  It's like the large print books.  Was that a design choice or am I doing something wrong?
[01:00] <ebeyer> Can anyone here me?  I see myself typing but no other communication.
[01:00] <ebeyer> *hear
[01:02] <lemonmi> 有人用kde吗
[01:02] <ebeyer> Is there anyone here who can help me?
[01:02] <yofel> ebeyer: sorry, we're not always at the keyboard all the time, let's see..
[01:03] <ebeyer> I hope I didn't sound frustrated.  It's my first time using this client and I wondered if I set something wrong.
[01:03] <yofel> ebeyer: what exactly did you add and how?
[01:04] <yofel> as for the fonts, not sure, check what's used in system settings -> application appearance -> fonts for size and DPI
[01:04] <ebeyer> I selected the deb http://ppa:kubuntu-ppa/backports/ maverick
[01:04] <yofel> *that* is wrong
[01:05] <yofel> easiest way would be to use 'sudo add-apt-repository ppa:kubuntu-ppa/backports'
[01:05] <yofel> the full line would be 'deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-ppa/backports/ubuntu maverick main'
[01:06] <ebeyer> OK.  Trying.
[01:07] <ebeyer> "The package system could not be initialized..."  Trying your first suggestion.
[01:07] <yofel> and you should disable the wrong line
[01:07] <ebeyer> OK.  Doing that.
[01:09] <ebeyer> "The package system could not be initialized, your configuration may be broken".. trying your first suggestion.
[01:09] <ebeyer> By the way, why are the default fonts in KDE so big?  Am I doing something wrong?
[01:10] <yofel> check in system settings as I said
[01:10] <yofel> they don't feel huge here
[01:10] <xeni> hello
[01:10] <ebeyer> Sorry.  Mine are running into the edges of windows.
[01:12] <ebeyer> OK.  Your first suggestion worked just fine.  Now how do I get KDE to update everything and install 4.6?
[01:12] <yofel> open kpackagekit, go to software updates, check for updates now
[01:13] <yofel> check for new updates rather
[01:13] <ebeyer>  So it does.  Thanks!
[01:14] <ebeyer> 8 packages to remove, 30 to install.  Sound right?
[01:15] <yofel> depends on which ones, but that sounds about right (how many to update?)
[01:15] <ebeyer> 172
[01:15] <ebeyer> *182
[01:15] <yofel> should be right
[01:15] <ebeyer> Thanks.  I'm liking the look of the windows.  I just need to tame my fonts and I think I'll be good.
[01:16] <yofel> as I said: look under System Settings -> Application Appearance -> Fonts. Check the size and the DPI setting
[01:16] <ebeyer> Is it hard to turn on the eye candy once 4.6 is set up?
[01:16] <ebeyer> I will do that, thanks.
[01:16] <Merlin__> snowhog thanks for the help it was that printer package error that would not let me install anything
[01:17] <yofel> if you mean the desktop effects they should be on by default as long as your graphics driver supports them
[01:17] <Snowhog> Merlin__: So you resolved it?
[01:17] <yofel> check the entry in system settings about them
[01:17] <ebeyer> I got compiz running on the gnome side no problem, so I'm guessing I'll be good.
[01:20] <ebeyer> That's clever, pibarnas.
[01:20] <yofel> heh
[01:23] <ebeyer> Where's a good place for suggestions on "eye candy" for kde?
[01:24] <Snowhog> ebeyer: http://forum.kde.org/
[01:24] <ebeyer> Thanks, snowhog.
[01:25] <ebeyer> Thanks, all.  Gonna log now.
[01:25] <ebeyer> Take care.
[01:53] <openstandards> is it possible to recreate the kwin effects with compiz
[01:53] <openstandards> I've noticed kwin kills my cpu usage with conky
[01:53] <openstandards> up to 50% usage when just dragging around a window...
[02:07] <oduinn> can someone help me with the PlaneShift game?
[02:08] <Fanfare> oduinn: whats the prob?
[02:08] <oduinn> i have installed the bin file properly - everything installs to /home/user/ without a hitch...problem is when i click on the desktop icon to launch it seems to launch (see a window in the task bar and the bouncy icon next to the mouse) but alas it blips out so to say
[02:08] <oduinn> both disappear
[02:09] <oduinn> and nothing else happens (it's as if i never clicked on it in the first place)
[02:09] <oduinn> i have every appropriate libc6 installed as well
[02:09] <oduinn> and i am running kubuntu on a thinkpad r52
[02:10] <oduinn> it's driving me crazy
[02:10] <Fanfare> oduinn: did u install in /opt (systemwide) or localy? did u check permissions User should be in group games.
[02:11] <Fanfare> oduinn: and does your system have cappable video card? OpenGL?
[02:11] <oduinn> permissions is set to executable..and i install system wide - when i install in /opt  (with sudo) it installs but i get no icon on desktop (even though the name appears where the icon should be) and KDEinit error cannot access  it
[02:12] <oduinn> seems i get much farther when installing (not as root) in home/user
[02:12] <Fanfare> oduinn: no icon means your user is most probably not in games group...
[02:12] <oduinn> okay so er...how do i fix that
[02:13] <oduinn> because i tried installing it as root to /user/games/ as well
[02:13] <Fanfare> oduinn: use kuser to add yourself to group games
[02:13] <oduinn> same weird problem with KDEinit
[02:13] <oduinn> hmmm, would that be in terminal or in the PS setup?
[02:14] <Fanfare> kuser is a kde tool
[02:14] <Corin> Wow.
[02:14] <Fanfare> try kuser in terminal and it gives instrucktions to install if not installed
[02:14] <Corin> I'm surprised this channel's so large.
[02:14] <Fanfare> Corin: depends on screen resolution :-)
[02:15] <Corin> Let me rephrase.
[02:15] <Corin> I'm surprised this channel has so many users accessing it at this particular point in time.
[02:15] <oduinn> alright one moment please
[02:16] <Fanfare> Q@all: someone knows a good (kde)app for IPTV?
[02:19] <oduinn> alright i just opened Kuser and open user/games
[02:19] <oduinn> under user there is a number 5
[02:19] <oduinn> and account disabled is checked
[02:20] <oduinn> should i go to the group tab?
[02:21] <oduinn> not sure how to do this and i do not want to accidentally change something that would adversely affect my system
[02:22] <Fanfare> edit your user (mostly id 1000)
[02:22] <oduinn> alright i just opened Kuser and open user/games
[02:22] <oduinn> under user there is a number 5
[02:22] <oduinn> and account disabled is checked
[02:22] <oduinn> should i go to the group tab?
[02:22] <oduinn> not sure how to do this and i do not want to accidentally change something that would adversely affect my system
[02:22] <FloodBotK3> oduinn: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:22] <Fanfare> Tab Groups check games
[02:22] <Corin> Does anyone know where the conf file for my touchpad would be in 10.10?
[02:23] <oduinn> sorry
[02:24] <Corin> Don't say etc/X11/xorg.conf
[02:24] <Corin> Not there.
[02:26] <oduinn> alright so what do i do now
[02:26] <Fanfare> oduinn: user edited? Added group games to your user?
[02:27] <Fanfare> well, then u need tu flush your user privs. i dont know a quick way for that (anyone?) so reboot your machine...
[02:29] <oduinn> um...it isn't let me edit anything in kuser
[02:29] <Fanfare> kuser should ask password on startup to get root privs
[02:31] <oduinn> okay so i check "games" under "groups" tab for user
[02:32] <oduinn> i sudo kuser in terminal
[02:32] <oduinn> worked fine
[02:32] <oduinn> now do i just reboot and try launching the game
[02:33] <Fanfare> yes, reboot and see if u get game icons of systemwide install
[02:33] <oduinn> and that's only after i have installed in root/opt
[02:34] <oduinn> because if that's the case I will need to reinstall in /opt first
[02:35] <Fanfare> well, u can install later... after reboot check in terminal win "id" if group games shows up...
[02:37] <oduinn> alright
[02:37] <oduinn> brb
[02:43] <oduinn> alright so the exec isn't checked under permissions afterall
[02:43] <oduinn> and it says i don't have permissions to do it when i try
[02:44] <Fanfare> oduinn: which exec?
[02:44] <Fanfare> did u "id" in terminal?
[02:45] <oduinn> arg - no...hold on will do it
[02:45] <oduinn> ok what am i looking for after i type id
[02:46] <Fanfare> check installed files/folders of PS with ls -l /opt/ should have <user>:games
[02:46] <Fanfare> in id there should be group games listed
[02:47] <Corin> Does using Kubuntu increase my chances of getting laid?
[02:49] <oduinn> no it says 9 root games
[02:49] <Fanfare> oduinn: thats ok too
[02:49] <oduinn> ok so now what
[02:50] <Fanfare> go to /opt/PlaneShift
[02:51] <oduinn> alright i am there
[02:51] <Fanfare> type ./pslaunch
[02:53] <Fanfare> Corin: why do u think u could be laid by installing kubuntu?
[02:54] <Corin> Well... it works better than Windows, thus saving me the time I waste for it to stop sucking. :P
[02:54] <oduinn> Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
[02:54] <oduinn> Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
[02:54] <oduinn> Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
[02:54] <oduinn> Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
[02:54] <oduinn> Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
[02:54] <FloodBotK3> oduinn: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:55] <Fanfare> oduinn: which video card do u have?
[02:55] <Corin> That bot intrigues me.
[02:55] <Guest59191> hi anyone lnows if nepomuk is able to uninstall?
[02:55] <oduinn> brb
[02:56] <Corin> It so sets the channel mode to +z only when a user is temp-quieted?
[02:56] <Guest59191> i mean isn't critical porcess?
[03:04] <Fanfare> Corin: when saving time through using kubuntu don't show u saved time by relaxing or playing games...
[03:05] <Corin> Hrm?
[03:05] <Corin> What do you mean, Fanfare?
 Well... it works better than Windows, thus saving me the time I waste for it to stop sucking. :P
[03:06] <Fanfare> if that was your concern for beeing laid...
[03:06] <Corin> lol
[03:06] <Corin> Oh.
[03:06] <Corin> It wasn't a serious comment.
[03:06] <Fanfare> :-) thought so...
[03:07] <Fanfare> so what are the most effective ways to save time with kubuntu?
[03:07] <oduinn> um how do i check what my video card is
[03:08] <Fanfare> use kinfocenter or try running glxgears
[03:08] <Fanfare> or glxinfo | grep OpenGL
[03:14] <oduinn> Error: couldn't find RGB GLX visual or fbconfig
[03:14] <oduinn> Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
[03:17] <Fanfare> or glxinfo | grep vendor
[03:17] <Corin> Does anyone know of a good partition manager?
[03:20] <iulian_> kde partition manager
[03:21] <oduinn> Error: couldn't find RGB GLX visual or fbconfig
[03:21] <oduinn> Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
[03:23] <Fanfare> hm, oduinn lspci
[03:25] <oduinn> Intel Corporation Mobile 915GM/GMS/910GML Express Graphics Controller
[03:29] <Fanfare> hm, intel 915 seems not beeing able to do opengl then...
[03:30] <oduinn> it supports opelGL but not anything above openGL 2.0
[03:35] <Corin> Thanks, iulian_.
[03:35] <Corin> However, I suppose you're probably biased towards KDE software.
[03:35] <ruffleS> hi guys. what is the smallest metapackage to get a usable kde running?
[03:35] <Corin> Well, everyone here likely is. :P
[03:37] <maco> ruffleS: kde-standard i think
[03:37] <maco> ruffleS: or maybe even just kde-plasma-desktop
[03:37] <ruffleS> thanks
[03:38] <oduinn> okay so i still need to make it exec
[03:58] <lipe> \list
[03:58] <lipe> ?
[04:01] <lipe> \h
[04:06] <c2tarun> can anyone please tell me how to configure pastebin widget of KDE for http://paste.ubuntu.com ?
[04:09] <Daskreech> c2tarun: Right click -> settings -> choose paste.ubuntu.com ?
[04:11] <c2tarun> Daskreech: in pastebin server tab i edited and wrote http://paste.ubuntu.com but when i tried to paste somthing i got the 'Error during upload'
[04:11] <Daskreech> c2tarun: I think we are not talking about the same thing
[04:12] <Daskreech> c2tarun: Oh wait which KDE are you using?
[04:12] <c2tarun> Daskreech: KDE 4.5.1
[04:12] <Daskreech> Ah umm Ok I have aKDE 4.6 and it's just a dropdown and you choose paste.ubuntu.com
[04:13] <c2tarun> Daskreech: hey kde 4.6 is KDE-plasma right?
[04:13] <Daskreech> I'm not sure how to answer that
[04:13] <Daskreech> what are you asking?
[04:14] <c2tarun> Daskreech: I heard about a KDE env know as KDE plasma. What is it?
[04:14] <maco> plasma is what all your widgets and panel and stuff are
[04:15] <maco> there's Plasma Desktop, Plasma Netbook, and Plasma Mobile (which is for phones)
[04:15] <Daskreech> c2tarun: It's what you know as your Desktop.
[04:15] <Daskreech> The Widget that you are trying to configure now is a part of Plasma
[04:16] <c2tarun> maco: ohh... :) got it. what is the difference btw KDE 4.5 and KDE 4.6?
[04:16] <maco> age
[04:16] <maco> and wallpaper, i think
[04:16] <c2tarun> maco: nothing else :/
[04:16] <maco> well i mean, there's newer code...
[04:17] <maco> so new features
[04:17] <maco> but thats what i mean by "age"
[04:17] <c2tarun> maco: ok got it :) thanks
[04:20] <ruffleS> could anyone please tell me what is the package i should install so i can change gtk apps' appearance from kde system settings?
[04:25] <Corin> What's a good simplistic Media Player?
[04:26] <Corin> I used to use MPC-HC or mpcstar... but those are Windows only.
[04:27] <ruffleS> Corin, mplayer
[04:28] <ruffleS> maybe vlc
[04:28] <Corin> Not VLC.
[04:28] <Corin> I was consider mplayer.
[04:28] <ruffleS> Corin, mplayer is my favorite
[04:29] <c2tarun> Corin: one thing I can tell for sure, Totem player was better than Dragon player
[04:30] <Corin> ruffleS: KMPlayer or Gnome MPlayer? :P
[04:33] <Daskreech> http://www.kde.org/announcements/4.6/ c2tarun
[04:33] <Daskreech> ruffleS: oxygen-gtk
[04:34] <Daskreech> Corin: dragon ?
[04:34] <ruffleS> Daskreech, thank you
[04:34] <c2tarun> Daskreech: thanks :)
[04:35] <Corin> Do MPlayer, Dragon or Totem have smart playlist functions?
[04:43] <Daskreech> Corin: I think your definition of simple is not what most people's definition is
[04:43] <Corin> What's my definition?
[04:44] <Daskreech> Simple has smartness?
[04:44] <Corin> That's pretty much the ONLY feature I want. :o
[04:45] <Daskreech> I think that for the most part once you have smart playlists it stops being simple
[04:45] <Daskreech> but you might try bangarang
[04:45] <Corin> Bangarang?
[04:45] <Daskreech> Yes
[04:58] <solitaire> [RaX]Konata
[04:59] <zMerlinZ> anyone know how to get a brother hl1435 running under kubuntu 10.10
[05:00] <Guest30912> hi, any software to control fan speed?
[05:00] <Guest30912> kubuntu 10.10
[05:02] <Daskreech> !brother
[05:02] <Daskreech> Hmm
[05:02] <Daskreech> !printer
[05:02] <Daskreech> Ah :)
[05:02] <Daskreech> Guest30912: yes... though I don't remember what it is called now
[05:02] <Corin> What's Ubuntu?
[05:02] <Guest30912> !ubuntu
[05:02] <Corin> That was sarcasm.
[05:03] <Guest30912> I loved kde
[05:03] <Daskreech> Corin: it's a concept :)
[05:03] <Corin> Loved?
[05:03] <Daskreech> Guest30912: what did she do to you?
[05:03] <Guest30912> it's amazaing that works veryy well using amd semprom 2 ghz
[05:04] <Guest30912> but i need some fan control here
[05:09] <Corin> Possibly odd question...
[05:09] <Corin> I'm trying to make it so that Pidgin's conversation window automatically groups with the buddy list...
[05:10] <Corin> I've been able to get it so that ALL Pidgin windows group but that causes other issues.
[05:10] <Corin> Anyone know how I can do what I want?
[05:11] <Daskreech> Corin: middle click drag the Buddy list to a conversation?
[05:12] <Corin> Oh sorry...
[05:12] <Corin> I forgot one important piece of information. lol
[05:12] <Corin> I want them to auto-group.
[05:12] <Corin> Oh wait.
[05:12] <Corin> No.
[05:12] <Corin> I said that.
[05:12] <Corin> Hmm.
[05:12] <FloodBotK3> Corin: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:13] <Corin> Daskreech: Yeah, I know how to group them together. I just can't figure out how to force them to group by default.
[05:15] <Daskreech> Corin: looked at advanced -> Application settings?
[05:16] <Corin> Yes. I said I've gotten it to where ALL Pidgin windows auto-group. However, I wish for only TWO types of Pidgin windows to group.
[05:16] <Corin> Applications settings seems to only be able to let me do the former.
[05:17] <Daskreech> Oh do window settings then you can make them biased based on title etc
[05:17] <Corin> Unless there's some specific method in which I am unaware.
[05:17] <Corin> Yes but can you be more specific?
[05:17] <Corin> I'm rather new to KDE.
[05:18] <Daskreech> I'm not sure I don't use pidgin. If you go to the first tab you can get the Windows to show you how they expose themselves on Dbus and how kwin reads them
[05:18] <Daskreech> if you want to split them just look for the difference in a Buddylist and a Conversation and have only conversations autogroup
[05:20] <Corin> But what setting would I use to group them?
[05:21] <Daskreech> I'm not sure what you are using to group them in the first place
[05:21] <Corin> Oh.
[05:21] <Corin> Never mind.
[05:21] <Corin> Just figured it out.
[05:22] <Daskreech> Hooray!
[05:22] <Daskreech> KDE may be confusing but it works :)
[07:52] <bennyd420> hello all
[07:54] <faLUCE> hi. Is there a well ubuntu-compatible pci express video capture card (8 video inputs or more) that I can buy?
[08:23] <CuBeW0rK> hi all! I've just made an ext3 partition on a USB stick, and when I connect it and mount it using the popup window, I don't have user permissions on it
[08:24] <CuBeW0rK> I can't create any files on it, it says permission denied
[08:24] <CuBeW0rK> how can I fix this?
[08:28] <tsimpson> CuBeW0rK: use "sudo chown -R $USER:$USER /media/whatever" (where /media/whatever is the location the partition is mounted)
[08:29] <tsimpson> you should only have to do that once and the changes should be stored on the USB partition
[08:29] <CuBeW0rK> tsimpson, thx
[08:36] <bennyd420> anyone around that knows linux well?
[08:37] <angelo> ciao
[08:55] <Daskreech> bennyd420: I suppose
[08:56] <Daskreech> what would you like to ask?
[08:56] <Daskreech> faLUCE: Most ATI cards are linux certified. a lot of highend graphics are done on Linux so the drivers work well for them
[08:57] <Daskreech> They may not be very good for gaming etc but they will be solid
[08:58] <Daskreech> CuBeW0rK: how did you mount the drive? you probably  did it with a restriceted set of permissions?
[08:58] <CuBeW0rK> Daskreech, my problem is solved now
[08:58] <Daskreech> CuBeW0rK: :-)
[08:58] <Daskreech> ok
[08:58] <CuBeW0rK> now I have another
[08:59] <Daskreech> ok
[08:59] <CuBeW0rK> I try to sync my nepomuk database between two computers
[08:59] <CuBeW0rK> with backup/restore
[08:59] <Daskreech> There is a wiki article on that
[08:59] <CuBeW0rK> do you have a link? I'm pretty new to kubuntu, I've switched from debian
[09:02] <Daskreech> It's a KDE article
[09:02] <Daskreech> trying to find it
[09:02] <Daskreech> though I think the qdbus should work
[09:02] <Daskreech> qdbus org.kde.nepomuk.services.nepomukbackupsync /backupmanager backup
[09:19] <t-rask> I can't seem to load TuxGuitar on KDE 4.6 (Kubuntu 10.10), anyone have any ideas? I can give terminal errors if requested.
[09:27] <alumno28> hello
[09:27] <rork> hi
[09:28] <Daskreech> hi
[10:06] <c2tarun> Can anyone please tell me somethin about kubuntu-ninjas and what do they do?
[10:16] <yofel> c2tarun: they are the team responsible for packaging software for Kubuntu
[10:27] <Daskreech> c2tarun: They are the team of volunteers who gets the KDE stuff that needs to be done done
[10:28] <Daughain> HOw do I add commands so I can use them as su?
[10:30] <yofel> Daughain: root can run any commands (except your bash aliases when using sudo)
[10:30] <Daughain> Nope.
[10:30] <Daughain> sudo ./fastboot==command not found
[10:31] <Daughain> plain ./fastboot==permissoin denied.
[10:33] <c2tarun> Daskreech: are they same as MOTU in ubuntu?
[10:33] <yofel> odd, running a simple 'sudo ./test.sh' after creating that works fine here
[10:34] <yofel> c2tarun: MOTU is for universe/multiverse, and ninjas don't have upload rights to the archive themselves, kubuntu-devs have that. But generally they have the same purpose. The ninjas help in preparing the packages before they get uploaded
[10:35] <c2tarun> yofel: are there any documentation available like how to become a k*-ninja?
[10:35] <Daughain> If it was normal, I owuldnt need to be asking for help. =)
[10:37] <Daughain> fastboot is an executable. and running the command in its local dir.
[10:38] <Daughain> Using ./fastboot I get 'permission denied'
[10:38] <yofel> c2tarun: see https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/GettingInvolved/Development
[10:39] <Daughain> using sudo ./fastboot I get 'command not found'.
[10:39] <yofel> Daughain: well, can you post the full command not found line?
[10:39] <c2tarun> yofel: thanks :)
[10:39] <yofel> c2tarun: but in general: go to #kubuntu-devel and say you want to become one, we always need help
[10:40] <Daughain> daughain@Saints-Haven:~/android/platform-tools$ sudo ./fastboot
[10:40] <Daughain> sudo: ./fastboot: command not found
[10:40] <Daughain> daughain@Saints-Haven:~/android/platform-tools$ ./fastboot
[10:40] <Daughain> bash: ./fastboot: Permission denied
[10:40] <Daughain> Thats both.
[10:40] <yofel> I fear I'm clueless then :/
[10:41] <c2tarun> yofel: sure :) hey I know Gtk programming a bit, do I have to learn Qt or Gtk can help me?
[10:41] <Daughain> I am too, thats why I stopped in here. =)
[10:42] <yofel> c2tarun: probably not too much since we usually work with Qt applications (note: you don't need to know programming to become a ninja, though it helps in a few cases)
[10:43] <yofel> c2tarun: but really, start by hanging out in #kubuntu-devel, we don't bite
[10:43] <TheLiQuid> hi, i've got a little problem updateing to version 4.6, i added the ppa:kubuntu-ppa/backports tp my sources and when i want to install kubuntu-desktop it said that i've got the newest version but i have 4.5.1
[10:43] <TheLiQuid> can any1 tell me where my mistake is?
[10:44] <c2tarun> yofel: sure :) i am there, and from next time when i come to IRC i'll surely join it :) by the way, is #kubuntu-devel is the place where ninjas stay?
[10:44] <yofel> TheLiQuid: did you check for updates after adding it? (refreshed the cache?)
[10:44] <TheLiQuid> yes i do
[10:44] <yofel> c2tarun: yes, everything related to kubuntu development happens there
[10:45] <yofel> TheLiQuid: err... also, you'll already have kubuntu-desktop installed, you need to update the packages, not install kubuntu-desktop
[10:46] <c2tarun> yofel: grt :)
[10:49] <TheLiQuid> but with the update he wants to remove my ubuntu-desktop, atm i have installed both because im not sure which one to use in future
[10:53] <tsimpson> Daughain: does fastboot have executable permissions?
[10:53] <Daughain> Thanks, tsimpson, That was the prob, yeah. just got done fixing that.
[10:54] <tsimpson> sudo will complain with the not found error even if it exists, but is not executable
[10:55]  * Daughain nods.
[10:55]  * Daughain learned that. =)
[10:56] <yofel> TheLiQuid: can you run 'sudo apt-get dist-upgrade' and put the output in a pastebin?
[10:59] <sre-su> Kubuntu Maverick Hi! I had a system break down recently due to some network device driver error probably. After this I lost network and KDE suddenly returned to some old state with different icons for sound, network manager. I lost mozilla firefox tabs, firefox got reset to some previous settings because of which i'm not able to restore tabs as well ... After few restarts I almost got back to my old state of KDE but still I see
[10:59] <sre-su> updates for KDE which I already have.  What could have caused it and how can i fix it?
[11:15] <CuBeW0rK> does anyone know how can I enable compositing and desktop effects on an intel mobile 4 integrated GPU in maverick?
[11:19] <sre-su> Are these pacakges source correct for Maverick install- http://imagebin.org/135555 ?
[11:38] <banoz> hi there
[11:39] <banoz> any idea of why cmake sometimes doesn't create the .so symbolic links?
[12:08] <TheLiQuid> yofel: sorry for the deay, im @work here's the link      http://pastebin.com/eNTK9hiY
[12:43] <Mario_> hi, i have some problems with my cpu under kubuntu 10.10 with kubuntu-beta ppa installed. cpu is an amd t1090 be o.c. to 4 ghz. but kubuntu only shows me 2.8 ghz under /proc/cpuinfo ... i have already disabled "ondemand" with rcconf and uninstalled everything which seems to be throttle the cpu ... does anybody have a solution how my kubuntu can work with th 4 ghz?? (under archlinux with the same kde - 4.6 - everything works fine)
[13:04] <shane4ubuntu> ok, what is the best way to install skype?  I used the static version, but my web cam doesn't work and the sound is weird, any ideas??  Web cam worked on my regular Ubuntu install, I think it is the static version is hmm, odd or something, working on 64bit here.
[13:04] <shane4ubuntu> is the mediubuntu method the best way?  or manually?
[13:26] <howlymowly> hi poeple..  I am using a seperate partition for my encrypted home directory...  provided that i use the same password and login-data . Will I be able to reinstall my system and have my home-directory directly available? (I did this wiht non-encrypted home directories all the time.. but I don't know whether this works with an encrypted home directory..)
[14:10] <pmjp> hello
[14:11] <pmjp> hmmm
[14:25] <BluesKaj> Hey folks
[15:08] <massimo> ciao
[15:08] <massimo> !list
[15:23] <probme> I am having problem with nvidia card
[15:24] <probme> Optimus nvidia.... i saw in sitting-->system sitting multimedia that it is not showing any card
[15:25] <probme> or device
[15:25] <probme> Why is this problem please?
[15:26] <probme> I know That Optimus nvidia does not support in Linux but Should it not show the device?
[15:34] <probme>  I am having problem with nvidia card. i saw multimedia that it is not showing any devices. Why is this problem please? I know That Optimus nvidia does not support in Linux but Should it not show the device?
[15:43] <jsebean> hello
[15:43] <jsebean> I'm having trouble with kubuntu
[15:43] <jsebean> it wont boot up after installed
[15:43] <jsebean> i have 10.04
[15:43] <jsebean> any ideas?
[15:44] <jsebean> would 10.10 fix this?
[15:44] <jsebean> any ideas anyone?
[15:45] <BluesKaj> probme, open the kmenu /applications/system/hardware drivers , choose the recommended nvidia driver and install it
[15:47] <jsebean> any ideas anyone?
[15:48] <genii-around> jsebean: If it doesn't boot now under 10.04, it probably still won't boot under 10.10
[15:48] <jsebean> how do i fix it?
[15:48] <jsebean> ubuntu (gnome) worked fine
[15:48] <jsebean> but this wont work
[15:48] <probme> BluesKaj, It is Optimus nvidia ... will it support?
[15:48] <BluesKaj> jsebean, older pc , prhaps ?
[15:48] <jsebean> no
[15:48] <jsebean> new, came with windows 7
[15:49] <jsebean> AMD processor and ATI Graphics
[15:49] <jsebean> just got it this past summer
[15:49] <genii-around> jsebean: Did you install it from inside Windows?
[15:49] <jsebean> no
[15:49] <jsebean> not this nor regular ubuntu
[15:49] <jsebean> i used the CD i burned
[15:49] <BluesKaj> probme, optimus nvidia ,model numder pls , if it's an onboard  2 or 300 series then there may an issue .
[15:50] <genii-around> jsebean: Did your computer have Windows installed on a RAID of some kind?
[15:51] <probme> BluesKaj, How can i see the model number please? (lspci?)
[15:51] <jsebean> i dont know
[15:51] <BluesKaj> probme, lspci | grep VGA
[15:52] <probme> right
[15:52] <genii-around> jsebean: From your regular Ubuntu install, you can issue: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[15:52] <ales> je tu cz
[15:52] <jsebean> to install KDE?
[15:52] <jsebean> ill try that i guess
[15:53] <genii-around> jsebean: Yes, kubuntu-desktop is a meta package which puts KDE plus an assortment of apps
[15:54] <probme> BluesKaj, 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation GT218 [GeForce G310M] (rev a2)
[15:55] <probme> BluesKaj, This is the nvidia
[15:55] <probme> BluesKaj, Intel Graphics also need?
[15:55] <BluesKaj> probme, ok I repeat : open the kmenu /applications/system/hardware drivers , choose the recommended nvidia driver and install it
[15:57] <BluesKaj> probme, 2 graphics cards ?
[15:57] <probme> BluesKaj, Yeah thats why it is optimus
[15:57] <probme> BluesKaj, It is Asus laptop
[15:58] <BluesKaj> the chipset is nvidia , run the  recommended nvidia driver, probme
[15:59] <laszlok> Riddell: can't seem to post a comment on your blog, but I have a T410 and it works well with Ubuntu. There is an SD card slot (on mine at least) just to the right of the grip to open the lid.
[15:59] <probme> BluesKaj, I was did that but system get hang
[15:59] <BluesKaj> BBL , I have to reboot , just installed gnome ..gonna have a look
[15:59] <Riddell> laszlok: aah
[16:00] <Riddell> laszlok: that's completely non obvious!
[16:00] <laszlok> Riddell: I couldn't find it for the first two weeks either!
[16:01] <laszlok> Riddell: Also, i've replaced the cd drive with a 40gb SDD in the ultra bay and it is quite nice. Maverick boots in under 20 seconds
[16:01] <Riddell> laszlok: yeah I was thinking about getting one of those.  you just need an ultrabay sata converter from ebay no?
[16:01] <sri13> how to upgrade directly from kubuntu 9.04 to kubuntu 10.10
[16:02] <Riddell> sri13: you can't
[16:02] <sri13> Riddell: Is there any way other solution for this ?
[16:03] <laszlok> Riddell: I paid the full price for the lenovo one, ($60) which is too much because it isn't even really a converter. The laptop is using sata internally so its just a bracket that holds the drive in place and lets you hook regular sata up to the mini sata port inside the ultrabay
[16:03] <Riddell> sri13: upgrade to 9.10 then 10.04 then 10.10 or just install 10.10 over the old instal
[16:04] <sri13> Riddell: I tried installing using cd , but it didnt work .... OS is not detecting my keyboard or mouse during installation
[16:34] <Corin> This is a bit random... I was just curious what kubuntu users thought was the best IRC client.
[16:36] <BluesKaj> Corin, konversation is my fav , altho quassel seems to be the default
[16:37] <Corin> Interesting.
[16:37] <Corin> Ever tried KVIrc?
[16:38] <MrCurlyBraces_> I got a question about irc client's as well
[16:38] <BluesKaj> KVirc is ok, abit busy IMO
[16:38] <MrCurlyBraces_> Right now I'm using quassel but would like one with scripting capabilities
[16:38] <Corin> Busy?
[16:38] <MrCurlyBraces_> mainly for encrypting private messages
[16:39] <Corin> MrCurlyBraces_: KVIrc is nice. :3
[16:40] <BluesKaj> Corin, a polite expression for cluttered :)_
[16:40] <Corin> Oh.
[16:40] <Corin> That's what I figured.
[16:40] <Corin> I guess it's a bit bulky...
[16:40] <Corin> However, it seems to function efficiently, all the same.
[16:41] <rtdos> is there something similar to http://art.gnome.org/themes/gdm_greeter/index.php for kde / kubuntu ?
[16:41] <BluesKaj> it's a good stable client tho , I just prefer konversation for it's simple straight forward setup and appearance
[16:42] <MrCurlyBraces_> Corin, thanks! I'll look in to it.
[16:42] <Corin> Yeah, I've heard that before.
[16:42] <Corin> Simplistic just doesn't work for me, as far as IRC clients.
[16:43] <Corin> I'd prefer something bulky with a higher level of customization.
[16:45] <avihay> Hi. I have a problem connecting to computers over a third partie vpn. I get a message ping: sendmsg: Operation not permitted.  I've attached the output of route -n here: http://pastebin.com/guywbHn0
[16:46] <avihay> party
[16:47] <avihay> do I need to add another routeing rule?  do I need to mess with iptables?
[16:48] <Peace-> mm
[16:49] <Peace-> rtdos: kde look
[16:49] <Peace-> rtdos: maybe
[16:49] <Peace-> avihay: door?
[16:50] <Peace-> avihay: open the right dor and should work (totally nob on vpn)
[16:50] <rtdos> thanks, peace
[16:50] <avihay> Peace-: I beg your pardon? I'm useing a vpn software called Hamachi
[16:50] <Peace-> qhamachi?
[16:50] <avihay> creates it's own network interface
[16:51] <Peace-> avihay: ok but router is router
[16:51] <avihay> humm, need to try that, I'm useing hamachi from the command line or hamachi-gui
[16:51] <Peace-> if you have a closed door hamachi can not  work
[16:51] <Peace-> i guess
[16:51] <Peace-> like every program
[16:52] <Peace-> avihay: which door does it use?
[16:52] <avihay> what do you mean by door?
[16:52] <Peace-> :S
[16:52] <Peace-> 80 = browsing
[16:52] <avihay> port
[16:52] <Peace-> port ok
[16:53] <Peace-> avihay: i am italian some times i didn't link the right english word with italian right word
[16:53] <Peace-> xD
[16:53]  * Peace- /sometimes/often
[16:54] <avihay> yhe, I understand. I have no clue what port it uses to pass it's traffic on, all I know is that it works
[16:54] <avihay> It connects to the vpn server, and I can see the list of users n' all
[16:54] <Peace-> wait a moment
[16:55] <Peace-> avihay: maybe could be usefull maybe not http://logmeinwiki.com/wiki/Hamachi:Gaming_over_Hamachi
[16:56] <Peace-> avihay: i guess you have to find out which port tcp and udp it uses
[16:57] <avihay> the problem is when I try to ping/connect through the hamachi interface
[16:57] <avihay> that page is only about windows
[16:58] <Peace-> avihay: 12975 tcp
[16:58] <Peace-> 32976 tcp
[16:59] <Peace-> avihay: i am sure if you have your firewall set bad hamachi can't work well
[16:59] <Peace-> avihay: have you a router or just a firewall ?
[16:59] <BluesKaj> avihay, http://logmeinwiki.com/wiki/Hamachi:Gaming_over_Hamachi#Configuring_Routers
[17:00] <avihay> error message: ping: sendmsg: Operation not permitted.
[17:00] <avihay> the problem is on my side
[17:00] <Peace-> anyway i guess i have seen qhamachi
[17:00] <Peace-> that should be easier for your
[17:00] <Peace-> you
[17:00] <rtdos> how do i disable fast user switching?
[17:00] <avihay> can't find qhamachi. have you got a link?
[17:01] <BluesKaj> Peace-, most routers have HW firewalls built in , that's the reason for port settings and application tcp and udp potrs
[17:01] <BluesKaj> err ports
[17:01] <BluesKaj> avihay, what router do you usae ?
[17:01] <avihay> BluesKaj: I can connect to the server, it's not an external firewall issue
[17:02] <Peace-> BluesKaj: i know routers get firewall built in ... infact i guess he didn't open the right port
[17:02] <avihay> none
[17:02] <avihay> no router
[17:02] <BluesKaj> modem then
[17:02] <Peace-> avihay: so you have iptables ?
[17:02] <avihay> none
[17:02] <Peace-> turned on ?
[17:02] <avihay> I belive so
[17:02] <Peace-> BluesKaj: :S
[17:02] <avihay> believe*
[17:02] <Peace-> avihay: have you kde?
[17:02] <avihay> yes
[17:03] <Peace-> kubuntu version ?
[17:03] <avihay> 10.04
[17:03] <Peace-> avihay: do you know how to compile stuff?
[17:03] <BluesKaj> so how are you connecting to an ISP , avahi ...did you build an interface using a pc ?
[17:03] <avihay> yes, I know how to compile stuff
[17:04] <Peace-> avihay: could you consider to build this http://nowardev.wordpress.com/2011/01/25/easy-firewall-for-kde4-kubuntu/
[17:05] <avihay> well, I'm currently at a university. my eth0 IP is also the external IP. I don't know exactly what kind of black magic they use to limit my speed or block some ports, but that's not the problem
[17:06] <Peace-> mmm
[17:06] <Peace-> well if you are at a university i guess you are under a firewall that can not be handle via your computer..
[17:06] <Peace-> if you are not the admin
[17:06] <Peace-> so the port wil be closed :D
[17:07] <Peace-> will be kept closed
[17:07] <avihay> mmm, I'm considering it, but I know the solution is something like one iptables rule away or somth
[17:08] <Peace-> iptables of your computer doens't take effect on the iptable of university router ...
[17:08] <Peace-> i guess
[17:08] <Peace-> avihay: You could open some ports on your firewall if you have enabled
[17:08] <Peace-> avihay: anyway kubuntu doesn't enable by default iptables
[17:08] <avihay> no it doesn't, but like I've said, Hamachi works. it opens it's tunnel successfully
[17:08] <Peace-> mm
[17:09] <avihay> I can't use the tunnel due to my computer blocking it
[17:09] <avihay> otherwise, ping would have said destination unreachable, or hamachi wouldn't have been able to connect at all
[17:09] <Peace-> avihay: so i you are sure... about this try to compile that firewall interface
[17:09] <Peace-> and set some ports
[17:09] <Peace-> avihay: i have an article here about hamachi
[17:10] <Peace-> avihay: but it's italian ...
[17:10] <Peace-> avihay: have you chromium ?
[17:10] <Peace-> so you can translateit ?
[17:11] <avihay> chrome uses google translate. you can use google translate from any broser, and even some non-browser like IE < 9
[17:12] <Peace-> i know but chromium is comfortable..
[17:12] <Peace-> -.-
[17:12] <Peace-> anyway that is
[17:12] <Peace-> http://ubuntrucchi.wordpress.com/2008/03/22/hamachi-una-semplice-vpn-distribuita/
[17:12] <Peace-> !hamachi
[17:12] <avihay> I don't think I'll compile it. it looks very experimental. I'm gonna try gufw from the repositories
[17:12] <Peace-> do as you wish
[17:12] <Peace-> i am on kubuntu 10.04
[17:12] <Peace-> and it's working fine
[17:15] <iulian_> avihay: on this file ~/.hamachi/config what value is KeepAlive ?
[17:17] <avihay> iulian_: It's empty
[17:21] <BluesKaj> avihay, if you think your U isn't packetshaping or port monitoring and throttling your connection , then i would be very surprised
[17:22] <avihay> I know it is, but why would I get that error message if it was?
[17:22] <avihay> if it was interfering
[17:24] <Guest70698> Is there a way to make touchpad scrolling works in kubuntu 10.04
[17:24] <BluesKaj> avihay, can you ssh into the network pcs ?
[17:26] <Guest70698> ?
[17:28] <avihay> BluesKaj: I can ssh where I want. they block ssh to my computer though
[17:29] <avihay> the computer I'm trying to connect to with hamachi is behind a firewall, and running windows. It won't be practical to run an ssh server on it
[17:30] <ncfi1013> my file manager is opening in vlc instead of dolphin. what do i do? ive tried the right click option and there is no option to change it back to dolphin. so what do i do?
[17:31] <avihay> damn annoying using the computer farm computers without KDE software is a pain in the @$$$, and not being able to forward x over ssh from my computer is also annoying
[17:33] <ncfi1013> my file manager is opening in vlc instead of dolphin. what do i do? ive tried the right click option and there is no option to change it back to dolphin. so what do i do?
[17:33] <avihay> IPtable's ruleset is too scary for me to tackle alone...
[17:33] <BluesKaj> avihay, ssh -Y -l username 192.168.x.x . that should get an X server if you run the "appname &"
[17:33] <avihay> ncfi1013: then add one
[17:34] <ncfi1013> how
[17:34] <avihay> sec
[17:35] <avihay> ncfi1013: go to system settings -> default applications
[17:35] <BluesKaj> ncfi1013, open system settings /default applications / file manager , choose dolphin
[17:35] <avihay> in file manager, you should have dolphin listed
[17:36] <avihay> if you have it, select it. if you don't, the bottom option let's you sellect it manually
[17:38] <ncfi1013> now how do i remove the vlc option from the default applications menu? thanks for your help.
[17:39] <Peace-> ncfi1013: system settings file associations
[17:39] <avihay> well, there is another option to change these settings. go to dolphin, right click a folder, select properties
[17:39] <avihay> or that
[17:39] <BluesKaj> hmm, gnome still isn't my cuppa tea..nice to look at but panel etc are not to my taste ..tried configging it to somethin I call workable but it's just not "happening"
[17:40] <Peace-> BluesKaj: :)
[17:40] <avihay> anyway, my way, to the right of filetype : folder, there is a little button with a wrench
[17:40] <Peace-> in kde there a lots of ways...
[17:41] <Peace-> xD
[17:41] <avihay> it's self explanatory, but, click what you don't like, click remove
[17:41] <Corin> In KDE, you could have a panel on each side. xD
[17:41] <Corin> Including top and bottom. :o
[17:42] <avihay> in kde, you can only have one panel on each side, and they all have to use the same theme
[17:42] <iulian_> avihay: maybe there http://community.logmein.com/t5/Hamachi/hamachi-0-9-9-9-20-linux-client-to-hamachi-2-issues/td-p/30817
[17:42] <Corin> avihay: Did I say that wasn't true?
[17:43] <ncfi1013> ok thanks avihay blueskaj and peace-. i will just avoid vlc in the right click menu.
[17:43] <Peace-> ncfi1013: :)
[17:45] <avihay> Corin: what you said was true. what I said was true as-well.
[18:52] <igorov> hola
[19:08] <Ubulindy> came here from #ubuntu, migrated from gnome  to kde and now have no way to access /home & have no options in any menus
[19:09] <Ubulindy> they said to come here
[19:09] <Ubulindy> tried thru "computer", and it said file type can not be opened
[19:09] <Ubulindy> wierd
[19:09] <tsimpson> how are you trying to access /home?
[19:10] <Ubulindy> at this point thru any way I can, since unlike gnome, there is no >places>home>video, ect
[19:10] <tsimpson> what application are you using?
[19:10] <Ubulindy> and when I bring up a term, it opens to ~/Documents
[19:11] <Ubulindy> application?
[19:11] <tsimpson> are you using dolphin?
[19:11] <Ubulindy> no idea really, installed kde and eveything borked, and now Im lost
[19:11] <Ubulindy> Im back in gnome now
[19:12] <Ubulindy> but I liked kde more
[19:12] <tsimpson> what program are you using to try and access /home, what does it say in the title bar?
[19:13] <Ubulindy> it opned up gedit from what I recall
[19:13] <Ubulindy> and I was accessing it thru the panel menu
[19:13] <Ubulindy> except in kde, its quite different, and the usual options are gone
[19:13] <Ubulindy> it shows merely "computer"
[19:14] <Ubulindy> and when I click a box comes up saying unable to open file type
[19:14] <Ubulindy> Iv e switched back and forth to all desktops, and Ive never seen this happen
[19:15] <Ubulindy> any ideas?
[19:17] <Peace-> Ubulindy: what?
[19:17] <Ubulindy> can not access or even view my home folder, videos, music, nothing
[19:17] <Peace-> Ubulindy: mm looks like a permission problem
[19:18] <Ubulindy> and if I cant access anything how would I change permissions, and how did it bork?
[19:18] <Ubulindy> terminal is borked it seems as well
[19:18] <Peace-> Ubulindy: mm you should ... create a new user...
[19:18] <Peace-> Ubulindy: read this
[19:19] <Ubulindy> roxterm brings up ~/Documents
[19:19] <Ubulindy> k
[19:19] <Peace-> Ubulindy: http://nowardev.wordpress.com/2010/10/31/try-to-fix-your-kubuntu-box-with-kernel-recovery/
[19:19] <Peace-> Ubulindy: anywway if you got a terminal
[19:19] <Ubulindy> Ooo ok
[19:19] <Peace-> you could read
[19:19] <Ubulindy> hm
[19:19] <Ubulindy> nope
[19:19] <Ubulindy> lol
[19:19] <FloodBotK3> Ubulindy: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:20] <Peace-> Ubulindy: it's a stupid problem of permission ...
[19:20] <Ubulindy> ok,Ill have a look , thanks!
[19:21] <Peace-> but omg
[19:21] <Peace-> gedit ?
[19:21] <Peace-> wth
[19:21] <Peace-> omg
[19:21] <FloodBotK3> Peace-: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:43] <atomopawn_work> Hello all.  Just switched to Kubuntu from Arch linux (on some of my systems).  Does anyone know of some good documentation on getting a KDE development environment set up?  I've been having issues with library paths when I try to just install stuff to /usr/local/
[19:43] <atomopawn_work> (Kubuntu specific documentation, I mean)
[19:43] <atomopawn_work> I've been through all the stuff on techbase...
[19:55] <tsimpson> atomopawn_work: #kubuntu-devel should have some advice for you
[20:11] <tiziano> ciao
[20:19] <renano> ciao
[20:30] <renano> ciao
[21:09] <JuJuBee> What's going on with 10.10?  I have tried the 32 bit and 64 bit download and both fail to boot.  I always get dumped to (initramfs) prompt with a message about /dev/loop0
[21:09] <JuJuBee> I have confirmed the md5 for both
[21:14] <drbobb> hey what's with the download new plasmoids tool, i install stuff with it and it says they're installed, but they never show up on the add new plasmoid list
[21:21] <drbobb> duuh, actually they did appear, though with some delay. weird.
[21:46] <JuJuBee> need help... Anybody see this when trying to boot from 10.10 disc? http://pastie.org/1519613
[21:49] <Guest87599> hi, sometime when I open new window, it is black kde 4.6
[21:49] <Guest87599> anyone knows how to fix it?
[22:01] <roam> How can I disable animation of the icon on plasma netbook edition
[22:02] <ubuntu> hello good afternoon everyone i am trying kubuntu 10.10 but it is not givin me the option to configure my screen on 1024x768 it only has  800x600 can somebody tell me iof this can be fix please_
[22:03] <ubuntu> therefore i am doubting about installing it
[22:06] <rork> ubuntu: larger resolution are probably available if you install graphics drivers
[22:06] <ubuntu> and it says also no propietary drivers are in use on this system
[22:07] <rork> ubuntu: but you can activate them?
[22:07] <ubuntu> install graphics drivers...mmmm, but that is a probability
[22:07] <rork> I mean, there is one you can select
[22:07] <ubuntu> activate what? there are no options to be activate it
[22:08] <rork> That's probably because you're on a live-cd, activating them requires a reboot
[22:08] <mr-rich> anyone know what is the gui gnome config tool?
[22:08] <maco> gconf-editor?
[22:08] <rork> mr-rich: maybe ask in #ubuntu, they know about gnome, this channel is kde oriented
[22:08] <ubuntu> well i am on live cd because i want to see everything before installing it
[22:09] <ubuntu> and so far i have that issue with my screen res
[22:09] <maco> ubuntu: does it show that new graphics drivers are available?
[22:09] <maco> you cant install them on a live cd as they require a reboot, but if they're listed in there, you should be alright
[22:09] <ubuntu> nope
[22:10] <mr-rich> rork: I'm using kubuntu, but I run a few gnome apps (ie: evolution) and I need to configure some default gnome apps ...
[22:11] <ubuntu> ok but tell me how do i look for graphic drivers i did type that on kpackage kit and it found nothing
[22:13] <rork> ubuntu: System > Additional Drivers
[22:14] <ubuntu> i did that and it says that there are no propietary drivers in use on this system
[22:14] <ubuntu> my pc do not have nvidia hardware
[22:15] <rork> Which graphics card do you have?
[22:15] <ubuntu> i do not know how can i find that out?
[22:15] <maco> lspci
[22:17] <ubuntu> Intel Corporation 82845G/GL[Brookdale-G]/GE/PE DRAM Controller/Host-Hub Interface
[22:31] <moldy> hi
[22:31] <moldy> can i upgrade from 10.04 without the upgrade-manager thing? by changing sources.list and running apt-get dist-upgrade?
[22:32] <rork> hi
[22:34] <moldy> i am suffering from this problem: ERROR Dist-upgrade failed: 'E:Error, pkgProblemResolver::Resolve generated breaks, this may be caused by held packages.'
[22:38] <moldy> how do i find out if i still have any unofficial packages on the system?
[23:30] <drbobb> hey, what's a quick solution to recode some flac files to mp3?
[23:31] <afief> drbobb: ffmpeg recodes everything, but it probably isn't the optimal solution
[23:31] <afief> drbobb: you could decode flac, pass the decoded stream to lame and have it produce the mp3
[23:32] <drbobb> so what can do the job quick on a kde system?
[23:32] <afief> You mean a GUI?
[23:32] <drbobb> afief: a single command would be ok if such existed
[23:33] <drbobb> I do use CLI a lot but I don't want to spend the evening reading manpages for a couple of songs
[23:33] <afief> well, I don't have any flac files lying around byt try this: ffmpeg -i original.flac output.mp3
[23:33] <drbobb> sox doesn't do flac does iit?
[23:34] <afief> excuse my ignorance but what it sox?
[23:34] <drbobb> Sox is the Swiss army knife of sound processing.
[23:35] <drbobb> well that phrase was coined back in the '90s
[23:35] <afief> funny... I'd expect a swiss army knife of sound to support flac :-) oh well
[23:35] <drbobb> like I said, it's 1990s vintage
[23:37] <afief> but last release was april last year, flac has been around for a long time
[23:37] <drbobb> I tried several of the less known multimedia utils from the repos
[23:37] <drbobb> most of them are terminally buggy
[23:39] <drbobb> yep, ffmpeg at least works
[23:40] <drbobb> I think I saw there was a gnome-sound-converter util, but I'm afraid it might pull in most of the rest of gnome behind it
[23:40] <drbobb> funny that kde has no such util
[23:41] <drbobb> yikes, ffmpeg defaults to 64kbps for mp3 output
[23:41] <drbobb> down to reading manpages after all *sigh*
[23:47] <drbobb> aargh there are about 5000 different possible options
[23:54] <afief> drbobb: if I'm not mistaken it's the -ab flag(check the units though I think it's in bytes nowadays)
[23:54] <afief> drbobb: with ffmpeg coding up a converter shouldn't take more than a day's work
[23:54] <drbobb> yeah I sort of figured out the -ab
[23:55] <drbobb> I can't figure out how to get VBR though
[23:55] <drbobb> afief: a good converter would take a LOT more
[23:55] <drbobb> there exist about a dozen half-baked buggy ones
[23:57] <afief> drbobb: of course that is true, but I guess the issue here is that most of them try to reinvent what already exists
[23:59] <valorie> drbobb: Amarok now has transcoding built-in
[23:59] <valorie> it uses ffmpeg to do the work


[11:54] <jjohansen> cking: congrats once again
[11:55] <jjohansen> or perhaps nice job is better
[11:55] <cking> jjohansen, it's just simple fixes, nothing amazing, really.
[11:55] <cking> thanks :-)
[11:56] <jjohansen> cking: sure, but it nice to see the contribution happening, Canonical even made it into the top 20 for 2nd time since well forever
[11:57] <cking> i've got another 60+ lined up for the next merge, so hopefully it may happen again :-)
[11:59] <jjohansen> cking: well likely not for 4.12 but get another 50 or 60 lined up for 4.13 and we should
[11:59] <cking> fingers crossed. mind you, it is a meaningless index of productivity
[12:01] <jjohansen> sure, but still its some visibility, and a bit of a counter to the common refrain of us doing nothing
[15:09] <hallyn> is there any fast kernel build host (shell access) for ubuntu community use?
[15:09] <hallyn> oh yeah i saw that, nice :)
[15:22] <hallyn> ugh.  people who define "struct wahtever\n{" really mess with my searching
[15:27]  * hallyn lines up a big gce instances, but doesn't expect it to perform very well
[15:42] <hallyn> is a kernel build automatically parallelized to ncpu when doing a fakeroot debian/rules binary-generic, or are there env variables worth setting?
[15:53] <xnox> DEB_BUILD_OPTIONS=parallel=8 ./debian/rules <target>
[15:53] <xnox> hallyn, would be Debian Policy compliant....
[15:54] <xnox> hallyn, https://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/ch-source.html#s-debianrules-options
[15:57] <hallyn> oh, i thought that was obsoleted long ago, but i guess not.  thanks, i'll try that and see if it makes a difference :)
[15:57] <hallyn> thanks
[15:57] <hallyn> i think last i asked about this was like 6 years ago with kees
[16:03] <xnox> hallyn, debhelper 10 finally defaults to parallel by default, but we are not using that level of compat widely enough yet.
[16:03] <xnox> i think it about 4 years time, things will finally build parallel by default
[16:13] <hallyn> xnox: thanks
[17:03] <hallyn> xnox: heh, yeah so fwiw no change in time with that option so i guess kernel debian/rules must dtrt
[17:30] <apw> hallyn, the kernel self parallelises if you don't tell it
[17:33] <hallyn> apw: and that's appreciated :)
[18:32] <xnox> ah interesting


[00:25] <nikolam> micahg, I am yet to try it on lucid. I migrated finally to SM 2.04 on hardy few weeks ago.
[00:25] <micahg> nikolam: ah, ok
[00:28] <nikolam> good thing is since then not a one bad thing to report at me. I would also like to see some day, enigmail for SM again inside ubuntu repos.
[00:28] <micahg> nikolam: 1.0.1 from Lucid should work
[00:28] <micahg> nikolam: if not, file a bug and I'll look into it
[00:30] <nikolam> hm, I set up 1.0 from enigmail page (no 1.0.1 there for x86-64=)  I will try this one from lucid hot it is working, thanks.
[00:45] <nikolam> micahg, enigmail deb from lucid requires newer libasound2
[00:45] <nikolam> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/445812/
[00:46] <nikolam> this is on hardy.
[00:46]  * nikolam needs to sleep now
[00:46] <micahg> nikolam: k, idk if we can do that for hardy then, but please file a bug
[00:46] <micahg> nikolam: actually, don't
[00:46] <micahg> nikolam: we won't be updating enigmail since we're not updating thunderbird
[00:48] <nikolam> oki
[00:48] <micahg> nikolam: I might be able to push to PPA though possibly
[00:49] <nikolam> mine target is enigmail for SM in maverick+, anyway
[00:49] <micahg> nikolam: should work in Lucid
[00:49] <nikolam> but most probably lucid+ for real
[00:50] <nikolam> aha will check it out, then.
[00:51] <nikolam> aha, also, never got to congratulate you micahg for pushing Seamonkey 2.04 to Lucid! :)
[00:51] <nikolam> Thank you :)
[00:51] <micahg> nikolam: thanks, we still have some cleanup thought :) no locales yet :)
[00:52] <nikolam> aha I see. ;)
[00:53] <nikolam> g night (here almost 02am)
[00:54] <micahg> nikolam: night
[02:17] <gnomefreak> did the bot(s) take a vacation or is it broke?
[02:18] <micahg> gnomefreak: which bot?
[02:18] <gnomefreak> nothing updated daily ff3.6 ff3.7 chromium tbirds 3 3.1
[02:18] <gnomefreak> tb3.1 is expected
[02:19] <micahg> gnomefreak: only update from mozilla last night was ff37 and xul193 and xul193 broke
[02:19] <gnomefreak> ok let me see what update i have
[02:20] <gnomefreak> ok firefox-3.7 is from saturday rest is friday
[02:20] <micahg> gnomefreak: yeah, I have to see if I can get it going tonight, the build failed for no good reason
[02:21] <gnomefreak> thunderbird is from may 30
[02:21] <gnomefreak> micahg: ok thanks
[02:44] <gnomefreak> really really need to find a faster way to do this :(
[02:46] <micahg> gnomefreak: do what?
[02:46] <gnomefreak> micahg: adding some of my background images to apperance. i have well over 100 of them and adding one by one takes forever
[03:49] <gnomefreak> am i here?
[03:50] <micahg> gnomefreak: do you want to be?
[03:51] <gnomefreak> yes but tb isnt connecting to smtp gmail so i was wondering if it was me
[03:52] <micahg> gnomefreak: I thought you have to use your ISPs SMTP for gmail?
[03:52] <gnomefreak> i do?
[03:52] <micahg> gnomefreak: xul193 should build again tonight barring more breakage :)
[03:52] <micahg> gnomefreak: that's what I always had to do
[03:52] <gnomefreak> micahg: ok thanks i will be here tomorrow if i ever get to sleep
[03:53] <gnomefreak> thunderbird is starting this reply below bug again. i will play with it tomorrow
[09:15] <BUGabundo_remote> Have u seen the Sun?I need my photosynthesis!
[09:46] <BUGabundo_remote> fta http://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=45987
[09:46] <BUGabundo_remote> I think this local, not upstream
[09:48] <fta> BUGabundo_remote, which nss do you have?
[09:51] <BUGabundo_remote> fta what's the package name?
[09:51] <BUGabundo_remote> libnss-mdns  ?
[09:52] <fta> libnss3-1d
[09:52] <fta> libnss3-1d (>= 3.12.3)
[09:53] <BUGabundo_remote>  *** 3.12.6-2 0        500 http://ftp.debian.org unstable/main Packages
[10:08] <fta> not sure what those ms-like nss error codes are
[10:29] <fta> can't start gwibber anymore
[10:35] <BUGabundo_remote> wfm
[10:35] <BUGabundo_remote> old old kerneç
[10:36] <BUGabundo_remote> .34 won't work
[10:36] <BUGabundo_remote> to much restrictions
[10:49] <fta> when i try to start gwibber, it complains with "Unable to find listening port" and apport pops up for gwibber, gwibber-service and desktopcouch-service
[10:51] <BUGabundo_remote> yep
[10:51] <BUGabundo_remote> reboot to kernel .32 and it works
[11:18] <fta> bug 589656
[11:18] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 589656 in linux (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "help -> report a problem doesn't work on Maverick (affects: 2) (dups: 1) (heat: 16)" [High,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/589656
[11:21] <fta> weird, that was 3 days ago, but i just got a new kernel this morning
[11:37] <BUGabundo_remote> I still can't install the new kernel
[11:39] <fta> got 2.6.35-1.1 this morning
[11:40] <fta> oh, it's from friday
[12:05] <BUGabundo_remote> ĩ can't complains
[12:06] <BUGabundo_remote> about missing image
[12:08] <gnomefreak> fix me :(
[12:23] <DASPRiD> u r unfixable :P
[12:23] <gnomefreak> nope
[12:23] <gnomefreak> not a chance in hell to get the usb stick to mount
[12:23]  * DASPRiD tries to put some glue on gnomefreak, but it doesn't stick
[12:24] <gnomefreak> :)
[12:24] <DASPRiD> gnomefreak, i also once had a usb stick which didnt want to automount
[12:24] <DASPRiD> i had to mount it manually
[12:25] <gnomefreak> DASPRiD: not sure how to do that never had to before. i have a theroy on how. still not sure if it really is sdd1 either
[12:25] <DASPRiD> gnomefreak, do: sudo fdisk -l
[12:25] <DASPRiD> find the partition (/dev/sd*)
[12:25] <DASPRiD> you can recognize it by the size usually
[12:25]  * gnomefreak doesnt care much about the data at this point.
[12:25] <DASPRiD> or look in gparted, there you get more information
[12:26] <DASPRiD> heh okay ;)
[12:28] <gnomefreak> DASPRiD: http://paste.ubuntu.com/446047/ im not seing it there
[12:28] <gnomefreak> the red light is lit on stick but not mounted
[12:31]  * gnomefreak not seeing 4gig anywher ein that list
[12:45] <gnomefreak> well gparted doesnt help either oh well
[13:24] <BUGabundo_remote> gnomefreak: none of my usb *disk* will  automount
[13:24] <BUGabundo_remote> and e-sata no mather what I do, won't automount
[13:24] <BUGabundo_remote> usbpendrives work fine :\
[13:24] <BUGabundo_remote> its weird
[13:25] <gnomefreak> BUGabundo_remote: mine worked fine until i corrupted the drive (windows XP tells me that)
[13:26] <gnomefreak> not formated right or something like that
[13:27] <gnomefreak> its not really that its not auto mounting but more of it doesnt recognize the drivenothing shows me that it is even there
[13:29] <gnomefreak> the red light is lit on the drive but that is the closest i come. gparted and fsdisk do not show it so i dont where it even is
[13:29] <gnomefreak> nothing i have found in repos works
[13:35] <BUGabundo_remote> plug it, and format it?
[13:36] <gnomefreak> BUGabundo_remote: that would work great if it saw the disk at all
[13:36] <BUGabundo_remote> fdisk or dmesg doesn't show it?
[13:36] <gnomefreak> plugging it in is the same as not plugging it in  (other then the pretty red light)
[13:36] <gnomefreak> BUGabundo_remote: nope
[13:37] <gnomefreak> BUGabundo_remote: http://paste.ubuntu.com/446047/
[13:38] <gnomefreak> i hate to throw it away and have to buy another one
[14:04] <gnomefreak> well looks like 1.9.3 builds now
[14:15] <gnomefreak> what is the mozilla channel for extensions?
[15:31] <jdstrand> chrisccoulson: which apps are using webkit in the hardy update? epiphany and yelp?
[15:31] <chrisccoulson> jdstrand, just epiphany
[15:31] <chrisccoulson> yelp will still be using xulrunner 1.9
[15:31] <chrisccoulson> (it doesn't work with 1.9.2, so i patched it to not load the new one)
[15:32] <jdstrand> chrisccoulson: ok, so we can technically wait on epiphany then, cause the one in hardy will (obviously) continue to use gecko
[15:33] <jdstrand> (well, wait on both epiphany and webkit)
[15:33] <jdstrand> I have very strong reservations about epiphany/webkit due to the ssl cert validation
[15:35] <jdstrand> chrisccoulson: also, what is the eta of 3.6.4 going live upstream?
[15:36] <chrisccoulson> jdstrand - i'm not entirely sure atm
[15:37] <jdstrand> chrisccoulson: I've been testing build6 -- will you be uploading a final?
[15:37] <chrisccoulson> jdstrand - build6 might be the final, unless mozilla do another respin before release
[15:37] <jdstrand> I see
[15:38] <chrisccoulson> hey micahg
[15:38] <jdstrand> chrisccoulson: in the past asac and I would wait 24 hours or so after upstream releases. unless there is an amazingly critical vulnerability, I suggest the same for this update
[15:38] <micahg> hi chrisccoulson
[15:38] <jdstrand> chrisccoulson: what do you think?
[15:39] <chrisccoulson> micahg - i'm not sure how busy you are, but we should probably start getting extensions in karmic updated
[15:39] <jdstrand> it would allow more testing time as well as making sure upstream didn't introduce any regressions
[15:39] <chrisccoulson> jdstrand - yeah, that makes sense
[15:39] <jdstrand> cool
[15:39] <micahg> chrisccoulson: I'll start on that tomorrow morning
[15:40] <gnomefreak> BUGabundo_remote: you should have had dart read the wiki. He is not installing it in vmware im 90% sure on that
[15:40] <jdstrand> I don't know releaseing on release day if the testing is there... this is just a hairy update
[15:40] <chrisccoulson> i'm going to fix the issues you reported today, as well as the font issue too (hopefully, if I figure it out)
[15:40] <jdstrand> and any extra time is probably a good thing
[15:40] <jdstrand> err
[15:40] <jdstrand> I don't mind releasing on release day...
[15:40] <chrisccoulson> heh
[15:41] <chrisccoulson> micahg - ok, no worries
[15:42] <mdeslaur> chrisccoulson: what is the "font issue"?
[15:42] <chrisccoulson> mdeslaur, ff3.6 ignores the gnome font settings
[15:43] <chrisccoulson> it does that in lucid too, but the fonts look ok because the hinting is set to slight in fontconfig
[15:43] <micahg> chrisccoulson: there's one more issue blocking <IP_ADDRESS>, so probably a respin will be necessary
[15:43] <chrisccoulson> but in hardy, it is different, and the fonts look terrible after the update
[15:43] <chrisccoulson> micahg - ok, thanks
[15:43] <micahg> chrisccoulson: I expect 3.5.10 to be released this week early w/out the CVEs
[15:43] <mdeslaur> chrisccoulson: oh, right...yeah, that appeared in 3.0 because of an upstream change to fix another issue
[15:44] <chrisccoulson> mdeslaur, it seems to only be exposed when we use the in-tree cairo
[15:44] <chrisccoulson> do you know what the other issue was?
[15:44] <mdeslaur> chrisccoulson: I think it was this: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=385263
[15:45] <mdeslaur> chrisccoulson: for performance reasons
[15:45] <ubot4> Mozilla bug 385263 in Graphics "[pango] we call FT_Open_Face twice per font" [Normal,Resolved: fixed]
[15:45] <mdeslaur> chrisccoulson: see last comment of https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=400265
[15:46] <ubot4> Mozilla bug 400265 in Graphics "trunk uses wrong (unwanted) rendering engine for fonts" [Major,New]
[15:47] <chrisccoulson> mdeslaur, thanks
[15:49] <micahg> fta: regarding the patch, I added to xul193, they broke something which doesn't make any logical sense, I'm actually going to switch it to just revert the change they made instead of changing the way it works
[15:49] <jdstrand> chrisccoulson: would you mind pinging me when you upload the new xul/ff and whatever fix you had for openjdk/sun-java5 plugins?
[15:50] <micahg> that reminds me, I need to talk to doko :)
[15:50] <fta> micahg, looks like you patched it just to change an --enable-xx to --disable-xx, should not be needed
[15:51] <fta> i mean, a patch should not be needed, even if you don't agree with the default value
[15:51] <micahg> fta: they dropped the explicit setting of disable in the check and now it doesn't work, so I thought, maybe I'll flip the check, but realized a couple hours later that would change that functionality of configure and wouldn't be accepted
[15:52] <micahg> the simplest change is to add back the if-not to the bool check, which is what I'm going to do and let them figure out why it doesn't work anymore w/out it
[15:57] <micahg> fta: full discussion at mozilla 570440
[15:57] <ubot4> Mozilla bug 570440 in Build Config "disable-javaxpcom not recognized after configure.in change" [Normal,Assigned] http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=570440
[16:10] <BUGabundo_remote> gnomefreak: I'm too. but  then he will be forced  to install fresh
[16:10] <micahg> chrisccoulson: looks like it'll be 2 more weeks before I can upload rights, I don't have time to get my wiki page up ATM, I figure we'll be busy enough w/out that anyways :)
[16:16] <micahg> chrisccoulson: k, I believe I got the ok to push openjdk for the mozilla updates, I'll try to have this up tonight then
[16:16] <micahg> at least for hardy
[17:07] <Milos_SD> Hi
[17:07] <Milos_SD> I have latest update for Firefox 3.7 and xulrunner 1.9.3 ... but I can't start Firefox
[17:07] <Milos_SD> there is Firefox-3.7 process loaded, but there is no gui or anything else :)
[17:09] <ddecator> Milos_SD: try killing the process and starting it again
[17:09] <Milos_SD> I tryed that
[17:09] <ddecator> still no luck?
[17:09] <Milos_SD> no
[17:10] <ddecator> try launching 'firefox-3.7 -P' and create a new profile, see if it will start then
[17:10] <Milos_SD> if I watch some system monitor app, I can see that nothing is happening, no cpu usage, and no io/wait
[17:11] <Milos_SD> no luck after presing "Start Minefield"
[17:11] <ddecator> strange..and you're using the mozilla team's daily PPA?
[17:11] <Milos_SD> I had a problem like this before, and the problem was in xulrunner
[17:12] <Milos_SD> yes
[17:12] <ddecator> can you pastebin the output you get if you try to start it from a terminal? (paste.ubuntu.com)
[17:12] <Milos_SD> and today I had some xulrunner 1.9.3 update
[17:12] <Milos_SD> no output
[17:12] <Milos_SD> :)
[17:12] <Milos_SD> there is no output
[17:13] <ddecator> oh hey, i'm having the same thing...i wonder if the xr version is past the ff3.7 version again..
[17:14] <micahg> ddecator: trunk is brok
[17:14] <micahg> *broke
[17:14] <ddecator> micahg: thanks, i was just about to ping you
[17:14] <Milos_SD> xr version is 20100606 and firefox is 20100605
[17:14] <Milos_SD> :)
[17:15] <micahg> nah, that should be fine
[17:15] <ddecator> yah, both a5 still though
[17:15] <micahg> I think trunk is actually broke though
[17:15] <ddecator> looks like it
[17:17] <micahg> although ff37 is depwait on xul193, should build soon
[17:19] <micahg> bbiab
[17:56] <jdstrand> chrisccoulson: fyi-- https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=620852 just filed. hopefully a patch will be soon
[17:56] <ubot4> Gnome bug 620852 in General "Lacking significant warning on bad certificates" [Critical,Unconfirmed]
[17:58] <fta> jdstrand, thanks for copying chromium to lucid
[17:59] <jdstrand> fta: oh sure, np. thanks for the update :)
[20:05] <fta> micahg, chrisccoulson; is the ffox35 still used?
[20:05] <fta> +ppa
[20:05] <fta> well, this one: http://people.ubuntu.com/~fta/ppa-dashboard/mozillateam--ffox35.html
[20:05] <micahg> fta: yes, I'm using it for staging for the FF36 upgrades
[20:06] <fta> ok
[20:35] <micahg> fta: BTW, I'll drop the xul193 patch as soon as the one that was approved upstream is checked-in (m-c is currently closed)
[20:35] <fta> micahg, ok
[20:36] <fta> micahg, btw, ff3.7 needs a refresh too. http://people.ubuntu.com/~fta/ppa-dashboard/ubuntu-mozilla-daily--ppa.html
[20:37] <micahg> fta: k, I'll try to get that in tonight
[20:40] <micahg> fta: BTW, I have ddecator working on songbird, and WRT to dailies, I hope towards the end of the month I can fix up my server so that I can take those over
[20:40] <fta> good
[21:26] <fta> oh my! langpacks.. http://people.ubuntu.com/~fta/ppa-dashboard/ubuntu-mozilla-security--ppa.html  :O
[21:28] <micahg> fta: yep :)
[21:32] <fta> asac, just released my code for those dashboards
[21:32] <fta> https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~fta/+junk/ppa-dashboard.trunk
[21:32] <fta> my 1st program in python :S
[21:42] <fta> ripps, ^^
[21:52] <fta> i hate the text that quickly appears when i open a new tab
[22:09] <chrisccoulson> micahg - we have langpacks with 3.6 translations in the PPA for hardy now
[22:09] <chrisccoulson> :)
[22:09] <micahg> yay
[22:44] <BUGabundo> asac: what was that command to see the screen DPI number ?
[22:45] <chrisccoulson> BUGabundo, xdpyinfo will tell you that
[22:45] <BUGabundo> thanks


[10:27] <slyon> fiesh: ugh... I don't have any further ideas right now :-/
[10:40] <fiesh> slyon: thanks though


[01:50] <Scary_Guy> I obviously wouldn't have pasted if it were anything bad
[13:56] <cmaloney> Happy Birthday _stink_
[13:56] <Scary_Guy> morning
[14:04] <cmaloney> morning
[14:14] <_stink_> cmaloney: thanks!
[14:19] <cmaloney> )
[14:19] <cmaloney> We're celebrating by going to Meijer
[14:20] <_stink_> ah yes, this is my only birthday wish.
[14:21] <cmaloney> \m/
[15:14] <Scary_Guy> Meijer is a pretty great store, I hope Amazon and Wallmart don't kill it off
[17:39] <cmaloney> Same


[00:51] <little_mac>  how can you setup zram and zswap with out zswap compressing zram at the same time as zram is compressing it should only zswap the file on the drive.  I have sudo apt install zram-config, and zswap in grub from zswap.enabled=1, and 4GB of disk swap in a /swapfile thats it for now.
[00:55] <little_mac> i actually get wonderful zelda on yuzu gameplay with both zRAM, and normal swap to disk, HOWEVER. I think i can get less stutters from zswap as it would be reading from the disk faster and CPU is fine
[00:56] <little_mac> but zswap is not setup correctly rn
[00:56] <rbox> sounds like you need more ram
[00:56] <jeremy31> little_mac: didn't you ask the same question on Linux Mint IRC?
[00:57] <little_mac> yes i asked there first, and the problem is the same on a ubuntu install after testing it
[00:57] <topcat001> you should use either zswap or zram, not both at the same time
[00:57] <little_mac> no one replyed
[00:57] <little_mac> topcat001: thats only cause zsawp is not playing nicely with zram
[00:58] <topcat001> they are not supposed to be used at the same time
[00:58] <little_mac> if it could just not handle zram and leave it alone it would be great!
[00:59] <topcat001> ^ I don't understand. Do you not want any disk based swap?
[00:59] <little_mac> unless the linux kernel doesn't support setting up what zswap files it can and cant work on
[00:59] <leftyfb> little_mac: which kernel are you currently running?
[00:59] <little_mac> the default
[00:59] <little_mac> from a ubuntu install
[01:00] <leftyfb> little_mac: uname -a
[01:01] <leftyfb> little_mac: it shouldn't take that long to run it in a terminal and paste the kernel version here
[01:01] <little_mac> okay
[01:01] <little_mac> Linux iMac 5.15.0-83-generic #92-Ubuntu SMP Mon Aug 14 09:30:42 UTC 2023 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[01:01] <little_mac> im rn on linuxmint as i typed this
[01:02] <little_mac> as its my main PC setup
[01:02] <leftyfb> little_mac: ok, let us know when you're on ubuntu to troubleshoot
[01:02] <topcat001> I don't know know how much Mint differs from Ubuntu
[01:02] <leftyfb> topcat001: enough that we don't support it here
[01:02] <topcat001> indeed
[01:02] <leftyfb> !mint | little_mac
[01:03] <topcat001> little_mac: I also think you are slightly confused about how zram and zswap work. In any case, I cannot hurt to read: https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Zram
[01:16] <oerheks> simple search zram for ubuntu/derivates https://devicetests.com/using-zram-on-ubuntu
[01:16] <oerheks> ?
[01:23] <topcat001> Also if one is swapping so much that this becomes important (zswap or zram), then perhaps more memory is needed.
[01:24] <kotgc> Hello, how do I uninstall a program?
[01:25] <kotgc> This doesn't work https://help.ubuntu.com/stable/ubuntu-help/addremove-remove.html.en
[01:25] <kotgc> I search for Installed app and 'AnyDesk' isn't ound.
[01:25] <kotgc> I right click on the icon and there's no option to uninstall?
[01:26] <leftyfb> kotgc: where did you search for anydesk?
[01:26] <kotgc> leftyfb, step 3 -> https://help.ubuntu.com/stable/ubuntu-help/addremove-remove.html.en
[01:27] <leftyfb> kotgc: sudo apt remove anydesk
[01:27] <kotgc> leftyfb, wow, that really actually worked!
[01:28] <kotgc> Thx!
[02:02] <cris> I've filled out this post: https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2483529  February, but there is still nobody looking into the AX88772B problem.  I have two different brands of USB ethernet dongles(AX88772B) that work fine on Windows, but on ubuntu I have to run "/usr/sbin/ethtool -s enx000000000521 speed 100 duplex full autoneg off" every time I plug them in.  Also they used to work on Ubuntu 19.
[02:03] <lotuspsychje> do you have a bug ID along with that cris
[02:03] <cris> No, I just posted on the forum
[02:04] <lotuspsychje> i strongly suggest to file a bug if something doesnt work out of the box on your device cris
[02:05] <cris> Ok I'll submit one
[02:05] <lotuspsychje> cris: ubuntu-bug linux , from your terminal
[02:05] <lotuspsychje> cris: then add a bug title + description and submit
[02:07] <leftyfb> cris: sudo modprobe -r ax88179_178a
[02:07] <leftyfb> then try to reconnect the cable
[02:07] <leftyfb> ethernet cable
[02:10] <cris> leftyfb: tried it, but no difference.
[02:10] <leftyfb> cris: it seems like this has been an issue on all distro's for a while now.
[02:11] <cris> yes, I do run into it on Debian too
[02:11] <leftyfb> right, and Mint and Manjaro I'm seeing
[02:11] <cris> Yup mint too, Haven't tried Manjaro
[02:12] <leftyfb> from what I'm reading I think the driver hasn't been touched since 2013 so it's probably been removed from the linux kernel
[02:13] <leftyfb> cris: modinfo ax88179_178a  # what does this give you?
[02:14] <cris> filename:       /lib/modules/6.2.0-32-generic/kernel/drivers/net/usb/ax88179_178a.ko
[02:14] <leftyfb> cris: https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/706977/how-to-fix-an-apparenlty-missing-kernel-module-dependency-declaration   try this
[02:14] <cris> description:    ASIX AX88179/178A based USB 3.0/2.0 Gigabit Ethernet Devices
[02:15] <leftyfb> run those commands with sudo
[02:15] <lenswipe> Something odd just happened - I opened a terminal, tried to use apt and it told me I had to run dpkg ----configure -a. I did that, it did some stuff related to nvidia, and now there's no nvidia stuff showing in the "Additional drivers" dialog. Anyone know what's up?
[02:16] <cris> AX88179 is also good for AX88772B?
[02:16] <leftyfb> try the commands in that post
[02:16] <lenswipe> https://pastebin.com/m6PCpufu
[02:17] <lenswipe> anyone know what happened there?
[02:19] <lenswipe> now my terminal is saying manpath: can't set the locale; make sure $LC_* and $LANG are correct
[02:22] <cris> Neither worked.  install: target 'cdc_mbim': No such file or directory  , and I softdep: command not found
[02:23] <cris> Tried: "install ax88179_178a /sbin/modprobe cdc_mbim; /sbin/modprobe --ignore-install ax88179_178a" as root
[02:27] <cris> the problem is the Autoneg flag. The driver is working. I just have to run ethtool to turn autoneg off. If it's on, it doesn't connect
[02:27] <cris> I tried to run ethtool when the interface comes up, but it didn't work.
[02:28] <cris> it runs too early
[02:31] <lotuspsychje> try your bug cris so the volunteers will be able to debug much better on your dmesg and other logs
[02:31] <cris> ok
[02:32] <cris> it was actually not running at all. if-up.d does not run because the connection never goes up until I run ethtool
[02:32] <cris> I need something that runs on USB plugged in kind of..
[02:40] <fichero> friends I have a microsoft keyboard and it has my doc pic and music buttons plus others that work such as volume and mute and calculator but
[02:40] <fichero> then i tried this app called keytouch but is not on the repos
[02:45] <fichero> is keytouch or better app available to load my docs pics music folder with a keyboard buton
[02:49] <lotuspsychje> !info input-remapper | fichero
[03:55] <josh_> Greetings! Can anyone advise me on the reason why rythmbox does'nt see my iphone on ubuntu 22.02
[04:05] <xangua> mmm I think I remember you josh_ , still trying to transfer files to your iphone?
[04:06] <josh_> Yeah, of course...any idea? I tried mounting it and it did work but the files didn't show on my iphone afterwards
[04:07] <xangua> did you try kdeconnect? josh_
[04:07] <lotuspsychje> try clementine josh_
[04:07] <lotuspsychje> should play better with Iphones
[04:08] <josh_> What worked for you? Even clementine didnt work, it sees  the phone but o  songs
[04:09] <lotuspsychje> josh_: journactl -f from a terminal, then plug your iphone and paste the results in a !paste to the channel
[04:09] <lotuspsychje> volunteers might be able to help better
[07:13] <PapayBanana> hi all
[07:15] <lotuspsychje> welcome skraito-0day
[07:16] <skraito-0day> thank you lotuspsychje
[07:16] <skraito-0day> how life been lotuspsychje
[07:16] <skraito-0day> still kicking ?
[07:16] <lotuspsychje> this channel is only for ubuntu issues skraito-0day
[07:16] <lotuspsychje> !chat
[07:16] <skraito-0day> oh yeah
[07:16] <skraito-0day> sorry guys
[07:17] <skraito-0day> anyway how to make ubuntu work from darkness
[07:30] <will> hey
[07:35] <will> does anyone talk here
[07:37] <lotuspsychje> !ask | will
[10:01] <hunter> oooo
[10:13] <webchat92> hello any one here that canhelp me with newtoworking win 7 and ubuntu
[10:14] <webchat92> so far linux is not easy to use :(
[10:14] <webchat92> hello any one ?
[10:15] <respawn> webchat92: welcome this is ubuntu help channel
[10:16] <webchat92> hi i need help
[10:16] <respawn> webchat92: for general chat go to #ubuntu-offtopic
[10:16] <webchat92> hello i need help with ubuntu ?
[10:17] <webchat92> hello?
[10:17] <respawn> give details of your issue and be patient
[10:17] <webchat92> how do you network win 7 with ubuntu
[10:17] <webchat92> i thought your a robot ?
[10:18] <webchat92> not very good instruction its amess is why so many give up on linux , its amess to try and find help :(
[10:18] <webchat92> it wont connect is the detail
[10:19] <webchat92> no matter wat videos i watch no matter how many instructions i followe it dont do any thing ?
[10:19] <respawn> what it wont connect
[10:19] <webchat92> why do you network win 7 to ubuntu ? i want to shair files
[10:20] <webchat92> how do you network win 7 with ubuntu
[10:20] <respawn> you need samba to share
[10:20] <webchat92> ????????????????????????
[10:20] <webchat92> that did not work
[10:20] <webchat92> i have tried for hours the last five days nothing has worked so far :(
[10:20] <webchat92> wtf
[10:21] <webchat92> it shouldnt be this difficult
[10:21] <respawn> webchat92: https://ubuntu.com/tutorials/install-and-configure-samba#1-overview
[10:22] <webchat92> i tryed that , was first choice and nothing
[10:22] <webchat92> oh well i guess its some secret or some vae instructions
[10:23] <webchat92> what crap no wonder its free
[10:23] <webchat92> :(
[10:23] <respawn> webchat92: https://ubuntu.com/server/docs/samba-file-server
[10:24] <webchat92> ive did that
[10:24] <webchat92> oh well i guess its not going to happen
[10:24] <webchat92> what crap
[10:25] <webchat92> spend money to build pc and this happens :(
[10:25] <respawn> it takes patience and reading instructions to make it work
[10:26] <webchat92> at least i found one person how offered some help , why are there thousand people here and noone is chatting?
[10:26] <respawn> difrent timezones and other things to do
[10:26] <webchat92> its creepy
[10:27] <webchat92> i have been toother "linux help irc places nd its all like this
[10:27] <webchat92> i go online to learn how to use ubuntu and i look up hot to do some thing i get somany out dated web pages decades old some thimnes
[10:27] <webchat92> or instructions so complicated i cant followe or instructin so vage
[10:28] <webchat92> it is like telling some one toclick that , when you did not say double click
[10:29] <webchat92> cant play games half the time vids crash
[10:29] <webchat92> i cantnet work pc to other pc
[10:29] <webchat92> its a paper wqait i wiasted cash on stupid linux
[10:29] <webchat92> were dopeole go for real linux help?
[10:29] <webchat92> help
[10:30] <webchat92> ?hello
[10:30] <webchat92> i habve installed and reinstalled linux nomatter what ionstruction i cant get stuff to work
[10:30] <webchat92> wtf
[10:30] <webchat92> :(
[10:30] <webchat92> hello any one here ?
[10:31] <webchat92> hello any one here ?
[10:31] <webchat92> hello any one here ?
[10:31] <webchat92> hello any one here ?
[10:31] <webchat92> hello any one here ?
[10:31] <respawn> i dont know everything works fine here
[10:31] <Disconsented> People have likes and folks are in different timezones
[10:31] <webchat92> hello any one here ?
[10:31] <Disconsented> So chill out
[10:31] <respawn> probably some trolling kid
[10:31] <Disconsented> Its such a fine line lol
[10:32] <respawn> yeah
[10:32] <respawn> seen it too many times
[10:33] <AlexC> yeah no wonder why it's free, bcuz it's crapppp
[10:33] <AlexC> :P
[10:35] <respawn> he is on #linux now
[10:36] <AlexC> good, I suppose
[10:45] <Yakov> how to insert corretly [1]  ~/Qt/Tools/QtCreator/bin/qtcreator /home/supernova/Desktop/GUI/CMakeLists.txt &     to [2] system("gnome-terminal -e \"bash -c 'sensors; bash;'\"")
[10:47] <A_Dragon> use subprocess rather than system() and have it pass the right args
[10:50] <Yakov> I call it with my c++ app using system :)
[10:50] <Yakov> I basically calling my another child app with parent App
[10:51] <A_Dragon> Use subprocess, rather than system() as it allows you to set the arguments directly.
[10:52] <Yakov> I need to do this way
[10:52] <A_Dragon> Why?
[10:55] <A_Dragon> Yakov: what specifically does `system` do for you that `subprocess` cannot, other than being more painful to work with
[11:02] <v0lZy> hi
[11:02] <v0lZy> having some issue with multi NIC config netplan cockpit and networkmanager
[11:03] <Yakov> A_dragon, please give definition/link what is subprocess
[11:03] <v0lZy> I want to set-up a static IP for a network interface thats not connected, but if connected would be in the same LAN with same GW as the one thats connected
[11:03] <v0lZy> problem is, when I add it with netmanager, it makes it the default GW
[11:03] <A_Dragon> https://docs.python.org/3/library/subprocess.html
[11:04] <A_Dragon> oh whoops sorry is this C; I was thinking I was in #python
[12:42] <v0lZy> anyone able to help with the effing netmanager/netplan/cockpit?
[12:44] <ravage> v0lZy: you can try #ubuntu-server or explain your problem in detail
[12:45] <ravage> i dont think with the information provided anyone can help
[12:45] <v0lZy> So, I have openvswitch + cockpit + networkmanager + netplan
[12:46] <v0lZy> cockpit is giving me problems, not showing updates. I read online its because it uses networkmanager (which is the only reason I have it), and networkmanager needs at least one managed device
[12:46] <v0lZy> Well, it has 2 managed devices, enp3s0 and enp4s0 ... however my actual uplink is via openvswitch
[12:48] <ravage> that really sounds like a server topic
[12:48] <v0lZy> (in other words, I have an openvswitch bridge that bridges enp3s0
[12:48] <v0lZy> ok, thanks
[13:12] <BluesKaj> Hi all
[13:32] <matsaman> hi BluesKaj
[13:32] <lubuntu> Hello.
[13:40] <BluesKaj> hi matsaman
[13:52] <josh_> good morning guys...hope you are well, i have an issue with my rhytmbox on unbuntu 22.02 it doesn't see my iphone; any assistance will be greatly appreciated.
[13:53] <lotuspsychje> josh_: did you log the journal logs as requested earlier?
[13:53] <josh_> what was that?
[13:54] <lotuspsychje> josh_: journalctl -f from your terminal, then plug in your iphone and !paste it to the channel so volunteers can take a look
[13:59] <jeremy31> josh_: was libimobiledevice-utils installed?
[14:02] <josh_> i believe so
[14:03] <josh_> cause the system sees the iphone and display the pic folder, it even sees it in Clementine but when it comes to syncing or  transferring songs, that doesn't work
[14:12] <josh_> the command is taking such a long time to display the output from the terminal, any other workaround when it comes to iphone and ubuntu?
[14:23] <josh_> It seems that I am not getting any assistance
[14:26] <jeremy31> josh_: You can also get support at askubuntu.com ubuntuforums.org or even https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu
[14:40] <tripstah> what books about linux do you recommend? for a beginner linux user.
[14:41] <ravage> !discuss | tripstah
[14:42] <tripstah> you could put information about a good guidebook to the topic!
[14:43] <ravage> or some nice recipes. or we stick to the channel topic which is Ubuntu support.
[15:57] <FKAShinobi> Is there a backports repo?
[16:00] <FKAShinobi> A more direct question, how can I see what's in backports to know if I should add it?
[16:05] <rfm> FKAShinobi, packages.ubuntu.com has a "browse through the lists" for each repo incl. the -backports.
[16:10] <FKAShinobi> rfm: I don't see a backports section in the dropdown.
[16:10] <oerheks> https://packages.ubuntu.com/jammy-backports/
[16:11] <rfm> FKAShinobi, its not a dropdown, its just the list of repos at the very top
[16:11] <FKAShinobi> rfm oerheks: Got it! Thanks
[16:12] <oerheks> for LTS it might be a better idea to manually install backport packages.
[16:12] <oerheks> not the whole repo; deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ jammy-backports main restricted universe multiverse
[16:12] <FKAShinobi> oerheks: Agreed. Unfortunately, the package I need is not in there.
[16:13] <ioria> FKAShinobi, what's your package ?
[16:14] <FKAShinobi> whipper 0.10.0.  It's in bullseye and in 23.04, I was hoping it was in the backports.
[16:15] <FKAShinobi> 0.9.0 has a simple but severe bug where the version reads 0.0.0.
[16:15] <oerheks> build it from git yourself? https://github.com/whipper-team/whipper/
[16:16] <FKAShinobi> That's my only option, I think.
[16:17] <ioria> the snap edge channel has 0.9.1., idk if it makes a difference, but you can try;no sweat
[16:18] <FKAShinobi> The snap is a container and would not affect the one currently installed, nor its dependencies, correct ?
[16:18] <oerheks> isolated, yes
[16:18] <oerheks> it can run next to the deb version
[16:21] <FKAShinobi> Wait, what is the snap edge channel? I'm looking in the snap store and it shows, 0.9.1.
[16:22] <oerheks> sudo snap install whipper --edge
[16:25] <FKAShinobi> how do I explicitly call the snap version?
[16:27] <oerheks> if you hoover over the snap version, the 'install' gives the line
[16:27] <oerheks> sudo snap install whipper --edge
[16:33] <FKAShinobi> got it. How can I determine where the config file for this package be located?
[16:36] <oerheks> i think in your ~/snap folder?
[16:37] <oerheks> there are 2 locations, var/lib/snapd/ and in your home
[16:46] <FKAShinobi> and can i access the python source?
[16:47] <leftyfb> FKAShinobi: apt source python3
[16:50] <jeremy31> FKAShinobi: You might have to go into Software & Updates/Developer options to enable source code repositories
[16:54] <FKAShinobi> leftyfb jeremy31: Where are the executables placed?
[16:54] <leftyfb> FKAShinobi: for what?
[16:54] <FKAShinobi> leftfb: the version of whipper from the snap edge channel
[16:54] <FKAShinobi> 0.9.1
[16:55] <leftyfb> FKAShinobi: run:   type -a whipper
[16:55] <FKAShinobi> I have installed it and can run it. I can access the config file. But may need to patch one of the py files
[16:55] <leftyfb> that will tell you the executables for that binary
[16:55] <FKAShinobi> type -a whipper
[16:55] <FKAShinobi> lol
[16:55] <leftyfb> not sure I get the joke
[16:56] <FKAShinobi> I just typed it in the wrong window like a moron
[16:57] <jeremy31> FKAShinobi: Just dont use /exec -o in hexchat with a command like that
[16:58] <FKAShinobi> Understood
[19:50] <Siamaster> After installing Windows on my m.2 drive, I'm unable to boot into ubuntu on a different drive
[19:50] <Siamaster> it loads forever then goes into some kind of emergancy mode
[19:51] <Siamaster> I think It's because I had tried something with refind and had created some kind of partition before I installed ubuntu
[19:51] <Siamaster> The computer first came with Windows on the only m.2 drive it had, then I installed my own ssd and installed ubuntu
[19:52] <Siamaster> but now, not only am I not able to log into my ubuntu, I can't even boot from my USB anymore
[19:52] <Siamaster> it loads forever
[19:54] <syphyr> Siamaster, I would try to boot with a ubuntu live cd (on a usb stick) and fix it from there
[19:54] <Habbie> Siamaster1, that sounds painful :( but you're not giving us much information. Perhaps you can take photos of the emergency mode, tell us about what you did, etc.?
[19:54] <Habbie> or that
[19:54] <Siamaster> Let me try again, let me wait longer with the ubuntu usb.
[20:04] <Siamaster1> well it booted into the usb this time. I tried my installation but the same problem persisted. I think it's easier to just reinstall so I'm doing that now. All files were already backed up
[20:16] <josh_> Hi guys,I am still having issues with my iphone and ubuntu 22.02 when it comes to transferring music...Can anyone help?
[20:19] <oerheks> hi josh_
[20:20] <oerheks> did you install install libimobiledevice-utils ?
[20:20] <oerheks> !info libimobiledevice-utils
[20:24] <josh_> I think I did already I can see the iPhone in file manager and am able to see my pics, the  only issue is music transfer
[20:28] <oerheks> are they DRM protected?
[20:29] <oerheks> i think you can only upload, drm-free
[20:34] <kucklehead> In gnome-tweaks my cursor box is greyed out and I can't change my cursor
[20:34] <kucklehead> Am I missing a package or do I need to use gsettings
[21:42] <pat> hi
[21:43] <Siamaster> I have Windows on my m.2 drive and I wanted to install ubuntu on a separate SSD drive. I think I accidentally installed the boot on the m.2 drive. Is there a way to move the boot location to the correct drive?
[21:43] <mozambique> hello
[21:43] <mozambique> how are you
[22:09] <Siamaster> hmm, it appears to be on the right drive when I look in the application "Disks" But when booting from BIOS it appears to be on the wrong drive, judging from the Total size displayed
[22:19] <toddc> Siamaster: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[22:20] <Siamaster> but it seems to be on the right drive. from ubuntu
[22:21] <Siamaster> but not in BIOS, But I think I've experienced this before where after a while it learns it's location
[22:21] <Siamaster> and it boots fine and fast now so I'm happy. I was just worried that if some day I want to format my m.2 drive it would make this installation unusable
[22:28] <Kon> Siamaster: Have you run lsblk in terminal? See if that matches what you see in Disks
[22:30] <bitbinge> Does some Ubuntu liveUSB version have built-in memtest86+?
[22:32] <Kon> bitbinge: Yes but I believe it's only in Legacy BIOS mode.
[22:34] <bitbinge> Kon, which iso? 23.04 doesn't have it.
[22:35] <Kon> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MemoryTest
[22:35] <Kon> If needed, go into your BIOS and make sure you are booting in Legacy / CSM mode
[22:37] <oerheks> BIOS-only boot option, not uefi
[22:37] <oerheks> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/memtest86+/+bug/1899615
[22:37] -ubottu:#ubuntu- Launchpad bug 1899615 in memtest86+ (Ubuntu) "No 'Memory test' boot menu entry" [Wishlist, Triaged]
[22:38] <oerheks> use the iso from https://www.memtest86.com/
[22:41] <bitbinge> Ah, you mean UEFI mode. I don't see an option to disable UEFI booting :/
[22:41] <bitbinge> I thought secure boot.
[22:42] <bitbinge> oerheks, that's not gpg signed.
[22:42] <Siamaster> Kon , thanks. It's clear now it's on the wrong drive
[22:43] <Siamaster> Can I use Boot-Repair to move it or does it only repair?
[22:44] <Siamaster> because I have no problem other than it would be a problem to format that drive now
[22:53] <Siamaster> Maybe it's faster this way anyway :P
[22:53] <Siamaster> if all the boot partitions are on the m.2 drive
[22:53] <Siamaster> possible?
[22:58] <toddc> Siamaster: yes it can be moved and boot repair can do it but you need to tell it where you want it
[23:31] <Bottle0fWater> Hello guys!
[23:32] <Bottle0fWater> wondering if someone can help with restoring all the settings after reinstalling Ubuntu 22.04?
[23:46] <Siamaster> toddc, Thanks! Seems great! I'm going to make a live version of it and fix this