[03:30] <rocky_> :/
[03:30] <rocky_> I'll brb, going to see what it says exactly
[03:30] <^Phantom^> yeah
[03:30] <ubuntu> rocky_:  so when i run manual i can just make partion and it will  install it there
[03:31] <^Phantom^> but i'll get the damn error 21 when i have the external drive unplugged
[03:31] <^Phantom^> put simply, i want each drive to have IT'S OWN GRUB
[03:31] <^Phantom^> is that possible?
[03:31] <ubuntu> Can somebody help?
[03:31] <JohnGalt> apparently not.  Oh well.  Didn't expect anyone would.
[03:31] <tritium> ^Phantom^: it's unnecessary
[03:32] <ubuntu> has anyone installed ubuntu manual instead lof the othe wayr
[03:32] <tritium> ubuntu: sure
[03:32] <JackWat|Laptop> ^Phantom^: grub can be installed on your internal drive and point to your external drive
[03:32] <juls4> philh: Okay i'm going to reboot and see if it helps. thanks mate.
[03:32] <Stupendoussteve> Yes
[03:32] <ubuntu> How do you do it
[03:32] <JackWat|Laptop> ubuntu: have you ever partioned a drive before?
[03:32] <arthursena> alguem do brasil?
[03:32] <kindofabuzz> ^Phantom^, it called chainloading, at the bottom of your /boot/grub/menu.lst; first lint will be; title <whatever>, second line will be: root (hd1) or whever your other hard drive is, thirsd line will be: chainloader +1
[03:32] <^Phantom^> it ALREADY DOES
[03:32] <tritium> !br | arthursena
[03:32] <ubuntu> Jack not on ubuntu
[03:32] <spanther> i've heard about a bug in ubuntu 9.04 term ext4 :(  is this issue fixed now with the final release coming in 1 day?
[03:32] <ubuntu> I have on windows
[03:33] <wgrant> spanther: Which bug?
[03:33] <ubuntu> Can I just add partion or do i have ot mkae paretion table
[03:33] <ubuntu> Jackwat
[03:33] <fumanchu182> where would one find "firefoxrc"?
[03:33] <spanther> wgrant the bug where the system freezes while overwriting or so
[03:33] <wgrant> spanther: There is a fairly rare freezing-on-deletion bug - no, that is not yet fixed. It is being worked on.
[03:33] <^Phantom^> but when i have the external drive UNPLUGGED upon boot, grub doesn't load and spits out error 21
[03:33] <rocky_> I'm back!
[03:33] <ticos> is it feasible to run Ubuntu installed on an external hard drive, using my intel mac?
[03:33] <kindofabuzz> fumanchu182, whereis ,filename>
[03:33] <spanther> wgrant yes thats the one i meant :( mh okay
[03:33] <rocky_> pc: it gives me error 13
[03:33] <ubuntu> If It would let me install where i want with the drag thing I would

[03:33] <^Phantom^> will pointing to a second grub SOLVE that problem?
[03:34] <^Phantom^> yes or no?
[03:34] <wgrant> spanther: Nobody quite knows why it happens, but people are debugging it.
[03:34] <ubuntu> Can someone just tell me the steps to partion and install ubuntu manual
[03:34] <rocky_> I'm going to google a little
[03:34] <wgrant> ubuntu: The installer has an option to do manual partitioning.
[03:34] <tritium> ubuntu: you add the partitions you want, basically
[03:34] <^Phantom^> or will i always ALWAYS have to have the external drive plugged in in order to boot this damn machine?
[03:34] <wgrant> ubuntu: You don't have to do it before you run the installer.
[03:34] <spanther> wgrant there has to be a code bug somewhere. otherwise this bug would be weird ^^
[03:34] <tritium> ^Phantom^: can you please calm down?
[03:34] <kindofabuzz> ^Phantom^, so you have the chainloader in your main grub?
[03:34] <ubuntu> I dont want to mess up window partion
[03:34] <ubuntu> I have win wit homework on it
[03:34] <wgrant> spanther: Of course it's a code bug.
[03:35] <JackWat|Laptop> yeah ^Phantom^, you're gonna make tritium cry
[03:35] <god__> Hey I think I found a fix for my gfx card problem, ill give another post if it works
[03:35] <ubuntu> do yiou have to create partation table swap or anything like that
[03:35] <John_Stamos> i have a dpkg error with python-gnome2
[03:35] <^Phantom^> damnit
[03:35] <wgrant> ubuntu: I don't think we'd release something that we knew would eat Windows partitions... there is an option right in the installer to resize it.
[03:35] <ubuntu> or you just create a partion and your set to install
[03:35] <tritium> ^Phantom^: seriously.  Cut it out.
[03:35] <wgrant> god__: Great!
[03:35] <JackWat|Laptop> oh man here come the waterworks
[03:35] <^Phantom^> will pointing to a second grub SOLVE the "Error 21" problem?
[03:35] <ubuntu> Do I create partiton table
[03:35] <spanther> wgrant well i think with 9.10 it will be fixed and maybe some tools to defrag will be included :)
[03:35] <armence> Hey all, I have a cd which has a file called md5sum.txt which has the md5 hashes for a number of pathes on the CD... Is there a way to basically check all those paths?
[03:35] <tritium> JackWat|Laptop: you're not helping
[03:35] <wgrant> spanther: It will be fixed in a post-release update for Ubuntu 9.04.
[03:35] <ubuntu> it says advanced so i am just trying to make sure everything goes right
[03:36] <ubuntu> because i never installed it with out the drag options befoe
[03:36] <kindofabuzz> ^Phantom^, just try it
[03:36] <Stupendoussteve> ubuntu: It should have one if windows is there
[03:36] <JackWat|Laptop> He's not bothering me. These problems can be frustrating
[03:36] <^Phantom^> or will I ALWAYS have to have that external drive plugged in
[03:36] <wgrant> ubuntu: Why do you want to use advanced mode? If you just want to resize the Windows partition, the Ubuntu installer will ask you if you want to resize it.
[03:36] <spanther> wgrant so 9.04 will have a 9.04.1 like 8.10 had ?
[03:36] <^Phantom^> i'm gonna nuke the external
[03:36] <ubuntu> IT NOT ASKING ME
[03:36] <racecar56> 8.10 didn't have a .1
[03:36] <pc> rocky_: I'm not sure I can help much.  moving Windows partitions around is an art form...
[03:36] <JackWat|Laptop> wgrant: he doesn't want to use his whole drive
[03:36] <racecar56> and 9.04.1 won't come
[03:36] <^Phantom^> install a new ubuntu to it
[03:36] <god__> "then type into a TTY session ", what does that mean? is that the terminal?
[03:36] <rocky_> pc: lmao
[03:36] <rocky_> well.........
[03:37] <tritium> spanther: no, only LTS releases have point releases like that
[03:37] <wgrant> spanther: No. the .1, .2 etc are just new CDs releases, and are only for LTS releases. But all the other releases have updates, we just don't release updated CDs.
[03:37] <kindofabuzz> ^Phantom^, yes pointing to another grub should solve it, that grub isn't even read until called upon
[03:37] <John_Stamos> "update-python-modules: error: Trying to overwrite gtk-2.0/gconf.so which is already provided by /usr/share/python-support/python-gconf
[03:37] <ubuntu> It only give me the option for installing over whole disk or advanced mode
[03:37] <John_Stamos> dpkg: error processing python-gnome2 (--configure):
[03:37] <John_Stamos>  subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 2
[03:37] <racecar56> only LTS get .1, in fact they will get .2's, probable .3s and .4's
[03:37] <John_Stamos> Errors were encountered while processing:
[03:37] <John_Stamos>  python-gnome2
[03:37] <FloodBot1> John_Stamos: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:37] <John_Stamos> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)"
[03:37] <ubuntu> is advanced mode really advanced
[03:37] <wgrant> JackWat|Laptop: The installer will ask you to resize!
[03:37] <racecar56> HOLY MOLY
[03:37] <racecar56> wow
[03:37] <racecar56> lots of messages at once
[03:37] <^Phantom^> thank you
[03:37] <JackWat|Laptop> Who was having the issue with an unmanaged network?
[03:37] <^Phantom^> now
[03:37] <rocky_> pc: what I am going to try next /fixmbr on windows recovery console, then reinstall grub
[03:37] <JackWat|Laptop> ther eyou go rocky
[03:37] <spanther> wgrant ah ok so no updated disc. so i have to wait till 9.10 :(
[03:37] <pc> rocky_: usually, I just shrink the existing windows partition, and install Linux after it
[03:37] <wgrant> spanther: Why? You can just install and then upgrade!
[03:37] <John_Stamos> http://paste.ubuntu.com/155680/
[03:37] <ubuntu> is advanced mode hard to make a single partions and install it with windows
[03:37] <god__> "then type into a TTY session ", what does that mean? is that the terminal?
[03:38] <ubuntu> can someone show me where i can get help with this atleast
[03:38] <rocky_> pc: I just got a replacement hdd for another that failed awhile ago
[03:38] <ubuntu> no one ever can ansewr this problem
[03:38] <rocky_> XD
[03:38] <JackWat|Laptop> ubuntu: get gparted live cd and you can make your partitions that way
[03:38] <ubuntu> i have been asking for over a week
[03:38] <JackWat|Laptop> manually make your partitions
[03:38] <ubuntu> gparted?\
[03:38] <wgrant> spanther: The bug only exhibits itself when deleting (or lots of overwriting) files, so you can install and upgrade.
[03:38] <pc> rocky_: Windows seems to really like staying on the same partition on which is was installed
[03:38] <duffc> final comes out on the 23rd right?
[03:38] <JackWat|Laptop> ubuntu: yes
[03:38] <wgrant> ubuntu: System->Administration->Partition Editor.
[03:38] <wgrant> duffc: Yes.
[03:38] <DasEi> ubuntu: want to dualboot ?
[03:38] <duffc> cool
[03:38] <rocky_> JackWat: g-parted is included on ubuntu
[03:38] <pc> rocky_: is Windows in the same spot?
[03:38] <ubuntu> can I use it will under LIVE CD mode
[03:38] <John_Stamos> anyone?
[03:38] <JackWat|Laptop> ubuntu: ther eis a live cd. you can setup all your partions the way yo uwant, and then tell ubuntu where to install
[03:38] <wgrant> ubuntu: Yes, it's installed by default. In System->Administration.
[03:39] <rocky_> pc: idk
[03:39] <JackWat|Laptop> ubuntu: it is its own live cd.
[03:39] <god__> "then type into a TTY session ", what does that mean? is that the terminal?
[03:39] <wgrant> god__: A terminal, yes.
[03:39] <god__> thanks grant
[03:39] <god__> what does tty stand for?
[03:39] <rocky_> cya a little later :)
[03:39] <rocky_> I will get back to you if it works :)
[03:39] <JackWat|Laptop> who had that unmanaged networkmanager thing going on?
[03:39] <ubuntu> i have to install a live cd its not on the ubunto live cd
[03:39] <racecar56> same here.. also wondered what tty stands for
[03:39] <spanther> wgrant but if it freezes while installing/updating then because of this bug? :/
[03:39] <^Phantom^> how do i get rid
[03:39] <wgrant> god__: Teletypewriter. Good old days.
[03:39] <^Phantom^> wait
[03:39] <Mike_lifeguard> When you do some command in terminal that doesn't give you back the prompt, how can you get that to run as a detached process?  Now you can tell it to resize your Windows partition.
[03:40] <DasEi> solexious, dd f.e
[03:40] <ubuntu> I am using ubuntu live cd, and I am in GPARTED
[03:40] <Stupendoussteve> TTY: teletypewriter
[03:40] <ubuntu> can I install from here3
[03:40] <JackWat|Laptop> i believe so, ubuntu
[03:40] <solexious> DasEi, pardon?
[03:40] <centHOGG> ^Phantom^: ok what
[03:41] <^Phantom^> would it be easier for me to just dualboot the two oses on the primary (internal) drive?
[03:41] <JackWat|Laptop> That'd always be easier :P
[03:41] <DasEi> solexious, if you want a 1:1 copy, you can use cmd dd
[03:41] <DasEi> !clone
[03:42] <racecar56> ^Phantom^, thats what i do
[03:42] <wgrant> solexious: How on earth did you install Ubuntu?
[03:42] <wgrant> PXE?
[03:42] <racecar56> i dont even know how to use pxe
[03:42] <solexious> wgrant, back when I had a dd drive to use
[03:42] <DasEi> solexious, do you want to copy the whole hd ?
[03:42] <racecar56> i have support for it though
[03:42] <god__> grant will take a look at this link and tell me what you think of it?
[03:42] <centHOGG> !pxe
[03:42] <solexious> DasEi,Yes
[03:42] <god__> http://onlyubuntu.blogspot.com/2008/08/howto-install-manually-nvidia-drivers.html
[03:42] <god__> or someone i dont care who
[03:42] <juls4> does anybody remember me???? The guy with the NVIDIA issues.
[03:42] <spanther> tomorrow 9.04 is out yay ^.^
[03:43] <^Phantom^> so i have two files i can delete
[03:43] <god__> your not the only one
[03:43] <^Phantom^> each is about 8gb a piece
[03:43] <JackWat|Laptop> every other guy in here has nvidia issues :P
[03:43] <DasEi> solexious, have you cdrom and can you attach a second drive ?
[03:43] <spanther> JackWat|Laptop nvidia issues? O.o tell me please
[03:43] <racecar56> i dont have nvidia issues
[03:43] <god__> juls, just for curiosity, whats your problem. mind you i cant help in anyway
[03:43] <JackWat|Laptop> i use ati :O
[03:43] <JackWat|Laptop> heh
[03:43] <solexious> No and only storage over a network
[03:43] <Mike_lifeguard> wgrant: ok, now when I try to exit it says there are stopped jobs.
[03:43] <^Phantom^> would 16~20 gb be good enough for ubuntu?
[03:43] <wgrant> Mike_lifeguard: 'disown'
[03:43] <genii> ^Phantom^: Yes
[03:43] <Mike_lifeguard> wgrant: is there a man page for this?
[03:43] <solexious> DasEi, No and only storage over a network
[03:43] <Mike_lifeguard> man bg doesn't exist
[03:43] <juls4> i think i've fucked up my computer. I've got 1680x1050 .. but now I don't have any like boarders on my windows. just the pages within windows. so I can't move anything. it's all static...
[03:44] <god__> i just want to know what else the nvidia is capable of not doing
[03:44] <DasEi> solexious, you want to backup files or double the OS ?
[03:44] <tritium> juls4: watch the language
[03:44] <JackWat|Laptop> juls4: there is a command to run
[03:44] <wgrant> Mike_lifeguard: They are built into the shell. Try 'man bash', then search in there.
[03:44] <Mike_lifeguard> ah, k
[03:44] <juls4> apologies for language.  Jackwat: what command?
[03:44] <god__> hey juls are you using proprietary drinvers for nvidia?
[03:44] <juls4> god_: yes
[03:45] <juls4> god_: they're evil.
[03:45] <god__> yeah
[03:45] <racecar56> juls4, hold alt and drag window
[03:45] <god__> they crash my box
[03:45] <solexious> DasEi, The drive is on its last legs so what ever I need to do to move it to a new one
[03:45] <racecar56> juls4, one way to move it
[03:45] <Stupendoussteve> racecar56: That doesn't help the borders being gone ;P
[03:45] <god__> i think i might have found a fix for that
[03:45] <fatakaa> hi
[03:45] <juls4> racecar56: thanks.
[03:45] <god__> I know i found linux drivers
[03:45] <^Phantom^>  first things first
[03:45] <DasEi> solexious, is the network linux, too ?
[03:45] <^Phantom^> what i want to do right now
[03:45] <^Phantom^> is
[03:46] <fatakaa> how do enable remote desktop through terminal?
[03:46] <tritium> !enter | ^Phantom^
[03:46] <racecar56> solexious, is it clickin'?
[03:46] <god__> they are here juls
[03:46] <fatakaa> how do i mean?
[03:46] <god__> http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux_display_ia32_180.51.html
[03:46] <pc> juls4: saw that same thing with the desktop effects enabled.  turning them off brought the window decorations back
[03:46] <tritium> god__: please don't recommend those.  There are drivers in the ubuntu repositories.
[03:46] <god__> and here is instalation guide
[03:46] <god__> there r?
[03:46] <solexious> racecar56, all manner of bad noises
[03:46] <tritium> god__: of course
[03:46] <fatakaa> do i have to login first in my desktop to let me login through remote desktop?
[03:46] <micahg> Has anyone used subcommander 2.0b4 against a subversion 1.4.2?
[03:46] <tritium> !nvidia | god__
[03:46] <god__> well ive been asking for them
[03:46] <JackWat|Laptop> juls4: try this command: gtk-window-decorator --replace
[03:46] <racecar56> solexious, ive never had my hard drive make nutty noises
[03:46] <solexious> DasEi, yes I have samba shares setup at the mo, but can so what ever is neded
[03:46] <god__> thanks BOT
[03:47] <racecar56> solexious, the whole computer for that matter
[03:47] <god__> and tri
[03:47] <racecar56> lol matrox
[03:47] <tritium> god__: you've been told about System -> Administration -> Hardware Drivers
[03:47] <solexious> racecar56, neither me till now
[03:47] <spanther> god__ just visit System -> Administration there you find a point hardware drivers or so
[03:47] <god__> no not those
[03:47] <syntax\> I need to use two name servers, the 1st one is an intranet nameserver (<IP_ADDRESS>) and the other is a name server from my dsl. I have two NIC's one is for the intranet and the other is for the dsl. eth0 has the ip configuration for my dsl and eth1 has the ip for the intranet. both of which are on static configurations. if i was to set the intranet nameserver on the 1st line of /etc/resolv.conf, then id try to disable the dsl NIC resolving would be ok, the
[03:47] <syntax\> n if i was to try to reup the NIC that has the dsl config and disable the NIC that has the intranet resolving won't work. /etc/resolv.conf has the dsl nameserver on the 2nd line.
[03:47] <fatakaa> anyone?
[03:47] <god__> I keep telling you they kill out my boot screen
[03:47] <racecar56> solexious, what will you do to back up?
[03:47] <DasEi> solexious, so wheres the problem then ? copy the files over
[03:47] <spanther> god__ but they are the working ones precompiled for ur kernel
[03:47] <god__> no they arent, if they were working ones, then they would work
[03:47] <JackWat|Laptop> fatakaa: if you're using VNC then yes
[03:47] <solexious> DasEi, im not sure what files to copy :s
[03:47] <racecar56> god__, lol
[03:48] <juls4> pc: that worked. thank you.
[03:48] <tritium> god__: they do work.
[03:48] <god__> not force me to reinstall the entire os because it cant even render black
[03:48] <fatakaa> JackWat|Laptop: what do you mean yes?
[03:48] <juls4> I hope I don't need to go through this every reboot???
[03:48] <racecar56> god__, i like how you said "if they were working ones, then they would work"
[03:48] <JackWat|Laptop> you asked a yes or no questoin right?
[03:48] <DasEi> fatakaa, there are different solutions you can call from cmd-line which will launch a gtk, if you just want a terminal, use ssh
[03:48] <god__> well that was obvious
[03:48] <^Phantom^> here's my plan of action:  1.  remove the current ubuntu entries from grub (which point to external hard drive), so i can boot WITHOUT having to have it plugged in, 2.  repartition,  3.  install ubuntu to the new partition
[03:48] <kb1hzm> anyone  know of good ham radio programs for ubuntu
[03:48] <fatakaa> yes like i need to desktop login first before i can be able to  do remote desktop?
[03:48] <god__> if they are the right ones, then why does my screen go black?
[03:48] <jelly-bean> JackWat|Laptop: did you find the networkmanager cmd?
[03:48] <JackWat|Laptop> jelly-bean
[03:49] <syntax\> anyone :(
[03:49] <wgrant> god__: Because you've found a bug.
[03:49] <spanther> god__ which chip is your gpu ?
[03:49] <^Phantom^> here's a question though, can i create the empty partition from within windows?
[03:49] <tritium> god__: you have hardware issues
[03:49] <fatakaa> DasEi: i can ssh in my desktop now but i need to do remote desktop and i need the console way to run remote desktop
[03:49] <JackWat|Laptop> jelly-bean: iwconfig <interface> mode managed
[03:49] <tritium> god__: which driver are you selecting?
[03:49] <wgrant> ^Phantom^: You could, but why? Windows isn't awesome at partition management.
[03:49] <jelly-bean> JackWat|Laptop: i've seen this one but isn't it for wireless not wired connections?
[03:49] <spanther> god__ tell us your GPU and your driver version used
[03:49] <racecar56> wgrant, your right about that
[03:49] <god__> ok, 3 things, How do report this bug, how do i find out wich chip my gpu is and how can i debug these issues
[03:49] <JackWat|Laptop> ^Phantom^: get gparted :P
[03:50] <spanther> god__ lspci shows you all hardware
[03:50] <tritium> god__: before you report any bugs, we need more info.  Which drivers are you selecting?
[03:50] <^Phantom^> srsly thoutgh
[03:50] <jelly-bean> JackWat|Laptop: Error for wireless request "Set Mode" (8B06) : SET failed on device eth0 ; Operation not supported.
[03:50] <^Phantom^> though*
[03:50] <kindofabuzz> they were serious
[03:50] <DasEi> solexious, /home will contain most of your private files, /etc configs, dpkg-get selections > pak.txt generates a list of installed packages
[03:50] <fatakaa> DasEi and JackWat|Laptop : i followed this site http://www.samlesher.com/ubuntu/ubuntu-704-enabledisable-remote-desktop-from-the-command-line but still i cant login through vnc client
[03:51] <^Phantom^> will doing the partitioning within windows mess up grub at all?
[03:51] <JackWat|Laptop> jelly-bean: gimmie one second
[03:51] <god__> ok ill go over this again. When i choose the proprietary drivers for nvidia graphics card (i have hp g60 123cl. im not sure of chipset) i get sent to reboot. When I do that the screen goes black at the splash screen and stops there
[03:51] <racecar56> ^Phantom^, i would never use windows to do it
[03:51] <tritium> god__: which ones?  nvidia-glx-180?  -177?  -173?
[03:51] <racecar56> ^Phantom^, i highly reccomend gparted
[03:51] <pyen> !bg
[03:51] <racecar56> i use -180
[03:52] <solexious> DasEi, So if I copy that, then install ubuntu on a new hdd then copy it back? *idiot checking :)*
[03:52] <wgrant> ^Phantom^: Windows has a habit of mangling partition tables. People have had it break GRUB. Why not use gparted?
[03:52] <fatakaa> anyways if i can ssh to my desktop,how can i loadthe gnome desktop of my user?
[03:52] <JackWat|Laptop> fatakaa: i think you still have to be logged in for that to work
[03:52] <god__> it never tells me, i only remember it said nvidia-glx-new. although i did try 177. After i installed the lnux headers because ubuntu forum doesnt mention that you need them
[03:52] <god__> but someone else did
[03:53] <fatakaa> JackWat|Laptop: im on ssh on that desktop,how can i login the gnome desktop through ssh console?
[03:53] <kindofabuzz> ^Phantom^, you know you can just move your grub to another hard drive, really no need in reinstalling the whole OS, or you could psuedo-install and just skip to the grub part.
[03:53] <DasEi> solexious, you can copy /home back, re-install the packages from the list BUT mussn't just copy /etc, but can get the configs out there
[03:53] <kindofabuzz> !grub | ^Phantom^
[03:53] <JackWat|Laptop> fatakaa: you can setup gnome to auto-login. thats what i do.
[03:53] <juls4> I have full resolution now. But when I reboot it starts up at a resolution 1400x150 which is out of range. It's blue/black and has vertical lines down my screen. The mouse continually jumps from top to bottom. It took me about 10 minutes to navigate to NVIDIA settings to reset it (only to find 1680x1050 to my suprise). How do I make 1680x1050 default via nvidia settings and stop it booting in an undetectable range. I don't want to use xandr because that hasn't wo
[03:53] <god__> sorry i crashed
[03:53] <tritium> god__: you might want to try -180.
[03:54] <spanther> god__ tried typing "lspci" in console and looking for your graphics card?
[03:54] <solexious> DasEi, Ok thanks
[03:54] <^Phantom^> k
[03:54] <fatakaa> JackWat|Laptop: i dont want to do auto login as of now i just nee to login desktop login through ssh console but i dont know how and i dont know if it's possible
[03:54] <DasEi> solexious, best is then not to mess with usernames (home), else copy just the files, not the whole dir
[03:54] <god__> i typed "lspci" i got alot of info back
[03:54] <JackWat|Laptop> fatakaa: that i do not know
[03:54] <god__> what do you need from it?
[03:54] <tritium> god__: lspci | grep VGA
[03:54] <spanther> god__ just look for the line saying "nvidia"
[03:54] <^Phantom^> here's what i want to do:  remove the current ubuntu install from the grub on my internal drive completely, so i can boot without having the drive plugged in
[03:55] <god__> all the lines have nvidia in them, be more specific
[03:55] <pc> juls4: sudo nivia-settings
[03:55] <tritium> god__: see my advice above
[03:55] <^Phantom^> what os do I need to use to do that?
[03:56] <JackWat|Laptop> ^Phantom^: take a look at /boot/grub/menu.lst
[03:56] <god__> ~$ lspci | grep VGA
[03:56] <god__> 02:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation Unknown device 0845 (rev a2)
[03:56] <^Phantom^> (i will log into the chat from another computer)
[03:56] <juls4> pc: sudo: nivia-settings: command not found
[03:56] <^Phantom^> can i access that from windows?
[03:56] <pc> oops
[03:56] <god__> what does that mean?
[03:56] <pc> juls4: nvidia-settings
[03:56] <JackWat|Laptop> ^Phantom^: if you can access your linux drive you can
[03:57] <god__> im not sure if im even giving the right info here
[03:57] <juls4> pc: Yeah, i'm already in the gui. but how do you make it default? by just selecting it? Should I write it to the xorg.conf file once i've selected 1680x1050?
[03:57] <^Phantom^> well, it seems i can't access the linux drive within windows
[03:58] <^Phantom^> i'll reboot into linux, brb
[03:58] <jelly-bean> so does anyone here actually have Network Manager working in 8.10 for their wired eth0 ?
[03:58] <pc> juls4: yes, write it
[03:58] <joanki123> i'm trying to shut down my computer and i get a message that says that there is an unknown program running , but i don't see any programs running.  how can i find out what it is?
[03:58] <ablmf> After I type my password, it took a long time to finish my ssh login.
[03:58] <racecar56> is there a fglrx for ati hd pro 2400 in 9.04
[03:58] <ablmf> I think maybe it's because I modified my resolve.confg
[03:58] <racecar56> is there a fglrx for ati hd pro 2400 in 9.04?
[03:58] <god__> umm... still lost here
[03:59] <ablmf> Does any one know how to fix it?
[03:59] <DasEi> <joanki123 top,htop
[03:59] <juls4> So I guess my card doesn't support compiz at the max resolution. That's a pitty. I liked the new notification system.
[03:59] <pc> god__: according to the pci.ids file, you have a NVIDIA C77 [GeForce 8200M G]
[03:59] <joanki123> DasEi, what is that?
[03:59] <joanki123> top, htop?
[03:59] <DasEi> !info top
[03:59] <DasEi> !info htop
[03:59] <tritium> god__: that's quite new.  Please try nvidia-glx-180
[04:00] <^P|snoozing> okay i'm on diferent machine right now, booting into linux on the one in question
[04:00] <DasEi> joanki123 type  top in trml, or install htop, then htop
[04:00] <fearthenofear> I have a problem with java. Firefox is showing that I have two versions of java installed. One is the newest one and the other is a 1.6.0_7. How do i get rid of the older one or disable it?
[04:00]  * unko is away: time for some good old fasioned sleep
[04:00] <JackWat|Laptop> juls4: did that command not work for you?
[04:01] <joanki123> oh i don't know what trml is
[04:01] <DasEi> !trml
[04:01] <lstarnes> joanki123: he meant terminal
[04:01] <DasEi> !cmd
[04:01] <tritium> !away > unko
[04:01] <racecar56> fail
[04:01] <^Phantom^> can i do that stuff from the grub itself?
[04:02] <DasEi> joanki123 terminal , alt-f2 > gnome-termial, I go fishing..
[04:02] <^Phantom^> can i remove the linux entries from the grub command line?
[04:02] <juls4> JackWat|Laptop: I didn't use it once I disabled the effects. I'll re-enable them and try your command if you would be kind enough to repost it
[04:02] <fatakaa> btw,how do i know in console or text based through ssh if someone has login through gnome desktop login?
[04:02] <JackWat|Laptop> fearthenofear: try sudo update-alternatives --config java
[04:02] <DasEi> !terminal | , joanki123
[04:02] <fearthenofear> ok
[04:02] <joejc> where would i go for help with ubuntu JEOS?
[04:03] <JackWat|Laptop> juls4: gtk-window-decorator --replace
[04:03] <^Phantom^> can i remove the linux entries from the grub command line?  if so, how would i do that?
[04:03] <Sertse> do we know the jaunty theme /wallpaper yet
[04:03] <pc> jelly-bean: I had a problem for a long time with NM and wired
[04:03] <pc> seems to work now
[04:03] <Sertse> is it still secret till final final
[04:03] <racecar56> any way to clear alt+f2 entries? if there isn't a way then im glad i avoid it
[04:03] <kindofabuzz> ^Phantom^, /sudo nano /boot/grub/menu.lst
[04:03] <jelly-bean> pc: how did u fix?
[04:03] <jelly-bean> pc: i am dying to know
[04:04] <DasEi> Phantom , yes /boot/grub/menu.lst
[04:04] <^Phantom^> •kindofabuzz• that command from the grub command line?
[04:04] <pc> jelly-bean: are you up-to-date?  seems like the problem just went away sometime within the last month or so
[04:04] <JackWat|Laptop> jelly-bean: NetworkManager labels them 'unmaged' if its being managed by another program? im not sure how to fix that
[04:04] <fearthenofear> 3 alternatives showed up
[04:04] <jelly-bean> JackWat|Laptop: well i did do some configuration in /etc/network/interfaces but i could remove that
[04:04] <kindofabuzz> ^Phantom^,  from a command line yes
[04:05] <JackWat|Laptop> fearthenofear: choose the one that has 'sun' in it
[04:05] <jelly-bean> pc: how can i tell? i think i am.. i always run the updates when they are suggested
[04:05] <fearthenofear> ok
[04:05] <DasEi>  joanki123 , found your process ?
[04:05] <pc> jelly-bean: then you probably are
[04:05] <pc> I never have figured out where NM stuffs it's config info
[04:05] <juls4> JackWat|Laptop: I'm afraid it doesn't do anything except go to a new line, not giving me a new command line - it seems to become unresponsive.
[04:05] <tritium> pc: /etc/NetworkManager/
[04:06] <joanki123> DasEi, i did that, .... how do i know which it is?
[04:06] <god__> is there an apt-get for nvidia-glx-180 (64)?
[04:06] <pc> tritium: I see files there, but nothing interesting
[04:06] <joanki123> these are the programs running:  Xorg, compiz.real, hald, init, DasEi
[04:07] <fearthenofear> still showing up the older version in firefox
[04:07] <joanki123> does anyone know what Xorg is?
[04:07] <DasEi>  joanki123 , what/when did you get which error again ?
[04:07] <lstarnes> joanki123: it's the display server
[04:07] <joanki123> when I go to "shut down"
[04:07] <^Phantom^> ×kindofabuzz× i entered that command
[04:08] <lstarnes> joanki123: you need it for graphical programs to run
[04:08] <joanki123> it says "a program is still running:"
[04:08] <JackWat|Laptop> heh
[04:08] <joanki123> i'm just worried that a program i created in C++ is causing this
[04:08] <joanki123> i've never seen this before
[04:08] <^Phantom^> i now have what looks line a menu of some kiind
[04:08] <joanki123> is it normal, lstarnes for Xorg to be running?
[04:08] <kindofabuzz> ^Phantom^, well there you go, edit whatever you need edited
[04:08] <jelly-bean> just tried  this: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-923998.html
[04:08] <jelly-bean> rebooting...
[04:08] <lstarnes> joanki123: almost certainly yes
[04:08] <JackWat|Laptop> xorg is always running
[04:08] <^Phantom^> i'm toally new to this, so can i please get some help?
[04:08] <joanki123> what weirds me out is it says thet program is "unknown"
[04:08] <tritium> joanki123: without it, you'd have no graphical desktop
[04:09] <joanki123> so how do i find out what it is?
[04:09] <joanki123> could it be my c++ program, even though i killed that terminal?
[04:09] <DasEi> Phantom , sure, might pm me ?
[04:09] <joanki123> the terminal i ran it in, that is
[04:09] <god__> is there an apt-get for nvidia-glx-180 (64)?
[04:09] <joejc> how long does scanning mirror take?
[04:09] <fearthenofear> i restarted firefox and it still showed up that here as an older version of java running
[04:09] <joanki123> i could just "Logout Anyway" but this behavior bothers me
[04:09] <lstarnes> god__: you might want to check aptitude search nvidia-glx
[04:09] <tritium> god__: sudo apt-get intsall nvidia-glx-180
[04:09] <DasEi>  joanki123 , if you ran in an own window which you closed, it's dead
[04:09] <ticos> Can ubuntu be installed on an external hard drive and be run by an intel mac?
[04:10] <tritium> god__: install, rather
[04:10] <joanki123> ok DasEi i'm gonna force exit
[04:10] <joanki123> THANKS all
[04:10] <DasEi> ticos: yes, if bios supports booting external
[04:11] <DasEi>  joanki123 , killall <app> kills the children-procs, too
[04:11] <DasEi> while kill <pid> just kills the parents-proc
[04:12] <fearthenofear> what else should i do with this java deal?
[04:12] <^Phantom^> what the crap am i doing here?
[04:12] <^Phantom^> what do i change and remove and stuff?
[04:12] <fatakaa> how do i enable vnc server with desktop?
[04:12] <DasEi> Phantom , mind pm ?
[04:13] <ticos> DasEi: how can i tell if bios supports?
[04:13] <tritium> !info nvidia-glx-180
[04:13] <tritium> god__: ^^ it's there.  See above.
[04:14] <seyfarth> Hey guys, i'm having trouble running ubuntu x64 on my new desktop. I installed, but when I rebooted instead of getting a login screen I just get a blank white screen
[04:14] <DasEi> ticos: attach external, check bios > boot from...
[04:15] <wgrant> DasEi: Intel Macs don't use BIOS.
[04:16] <hollister69> can anyone help me out with a Nautilus problem?
[04:16] <wgrant> !ask | hollister69
[04:16] <mikechelen> is it possible to use a bluetooth headset with ubuntu?
[04:16] <fearthenofear> anyone to know what else to do when firefox is showing up 2 versions of java?
[04:16] <Scunizi> tritium: not a good driver.. .11 had issues for most
[04:16] <wgrant> mikechelen: Yes.
[04:16] <tritium> Scunizi: depends on your hardware.
[04:16] <Scunizi> tritium: probably..
[04:16] <n8tuser> fearthenofear -> which version shows up under  update-alternatives ?
[04:16] <tritium> Scunizi: in his case, his hardware is new, and best supported by it.
[04:17] <mikechelen> wgrant, what is the proper method? will it work if the headset does not have a2dp?
[04:17] <seyfarth> Hey guys, i'm having trouble running ubuntu x64 on my new desktop. I installed, but when I rebooted instead of getting a login screen I just get a blank white screen. It's a top of the line machine with a great graphics card, so could it be a driver issue? Any advice?
[04:17] <tritium> Scunizi: works quite well with my 9400.
[04:17] <racecar56> STILL going CrAzY without the dumb FGLRX
[04:17] <racecar56> i wish it would work!
[04:17] <wgrant> mikechelen: I don't quite know, but Google returns some promising results.
[04:17] <wgrant> racecar56: Aren't proprietary drivers great?
[04:17] <manpoole> x2 64 bit 5000 amd with 2 gigs of ram should i give 64 bit ubuntu a try?
[04:17] <racecar56> firefox scrolls horrible
[04:17] <Scunizi> tritium: mine is fairly new too.. sort of... gforce 8200.. the latest from nvidia work SOOOO much better then the .11 driver there's really no comparrison
[04:17] <DasEi> wgrant : don't they boot externals ?
[04:18] <racecar56> wgrant, i wish my card was oss-conpatible
[04:18] <wgrant> DasEi: They probably can, but giving usual instructions for BIOS isn't going to do any good.
[04:18] <pc> manpoole: why not?  (running that here, btw)
[04:18] <fearthenofear>  /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-openjdk/jre/bin/java,  /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-sun/jre/bin/java,   /usr/bin/cacao
[04:18] <wgrant> racecar56: Isn't it?
[04:18] <fearthenofear> 1,2,3 respectively
[04:18] <tritium> Scunizi: I believe it
[04:18] <manpoole> could you notice performance gains?
[04:18] <racecar56> wgrant, in my case, it sure makes things less crazy
[04:18] <manpoole> from 32 bit ubuntu?
[04:18] <pc> manpoole: I didn't do a 32bit install to compare
[04:19] <wgrant> fearthenofear: Maybe remove the sun-java6-jre package.
[04:19] <pc> manpoole: but I do a fair amount of video, so thought 64bit might be the best place to start
[04:19] <fearthenofear> how do i do that via terminal?
[04:19] <BrickRisk> Anyone know why the 8.04 64bit install cd would mess up after selecting any option from the gui? All I get is a blinking cursor in the left hand corner of the screen
[04:20] <wgrant> fearthenofear: sudo apt-get remove sun-java6-jre
[04:20] <DasEi> ticos: yes, if bios supports booting external, read wgrant ?
[04:20] <BrickRisk> I've tried no spash and other options but nothing is ever displayed just a blinking cursor
[04:20] <wgrant> DasEi: ticos' Mac doesn't have a BIOS.
[04:21] <racecar56> mac dosen't have a bios? O_o
[04:21] <racecar56> ive never used one before
[04:21] <mikechelen> wgrant, it gets paired okay, not sure what to do next, the wiki seems out of date
[04:21] <wgrant> racecar56: Intel Macs use EFI.
[04:21] <wgrant> racecar56: The replacement for BIOS.
[04:21] <racecar56> wgrant, ahh
[04:21] <racecar56> wgrant, i saw a rss about that the other day
[04:22] <Lasivian> what setting controls how a window is opened by default? everything keeps trying to open full-screened and I have no idea where to go to change that (My google-fu is failing me)ok, so the System monitor shows only the things using my first processor, but the seocnd CPU is showing 100% usage
[04:22] <Lasivian> how can I show what processes are using the second CPU?
[04:22] <mib_jyrwiwuq> Is Wubi(http://wubi-installer.org/) being updated for Jaunty? I havent seen any information about weather or not its being updated so I thought I would ask.
[04:22] <fearthenofear> cool, that worked, only shows up the newer version. thanks!
[04:22] <usser> ticos, wgrant try refit, its a boot manager for mac, it can boot usb
[04:23] <ticos> I'm looking around Disk Utility, nothing really of use... I have successfully booted OSX off of the external hd, does that mean ubuntu would work too
[04:23] <usser> ticos, wgrant as well as linux windows mac osx or any other
[04:23] <mikechelen> Lasivian, by full screen, you mean maximized? are you looking at the filesystem or running a program
[04:23] <seyfarth> I need to install the proprietary ati driver from the terminal, but I don't feel like hauling my desktop across the house to my router. Any way I can use wireless?
[04:23] <mib_jyrwiwuq> Is Wubi(http://wubi-installer.org/) being updated for Jaunty? I havent seen any information about weather or not its being updated so I thought I would ask.
[04:24] <juls4> Hey guys, after replacing my xorg.conf file with one NVIDIA settings wrote my pc keeps starting up with 1600x1050 instead of 1650x1050. It's out of range and it kind of makes my monitor go nuts. I've tried selecting both 1650x1050 & auto select (replacing xorg.conf file each time) but it still reverts back to 1600x1050. Any suggestions?
[04:24] <pc> juls4: it's not 1680x1050?
[04:24] <wgrant> mib_jyrwiwuq: It's on the Jaunty CDs. It works fine.
[04:24] <juls4> pc: yeah sorry, it is. I've just been going at this for hours now.
[04:25] <wgrant> seyfarth: Why must you do it from a terminal?
[04:25] <pc> one option is to just edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf by hand
[04:25] <Lasivian> mikechelen: I found what's doing it in top, thanks tho
[04:25] <mikechelen> juls4, what nvidia chipset, and do you have the proprietary drivers enabled?
[04:25] <juls4> pc: 1680x1050 is the correct resolution - 1600x1050 is what i'm getting. What should I edit?
[04:25] <mikechelen> Lasivian, ok cool, yeah top can have more details that sys mon, also could try htop
[04:26] <pc> /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[04:26] <mib_jyrwiwuq> @wgrant Can I install the new jaunty version by downloading the wubi file from the website and choosing the version i want?
[04:26] <Lasivian> mikechelen: figured out that khubd is taking 85% cpu time :S
[04:26] <jcapinc> hey has anyone else noticed openoffice word processor interfering with compiz fusion?
[04:26] <juls4> pc: which line. i'm not sure what I should be editing. Its full of 1280 1024 (which was what i was originally getting as my max.. i don't know why that's even in there).
[04:27] <wgrant> mib_jyrwiwuq: I'm not sure, but you can use the official Ubuntu one. You can see it next to the normal ISOs at http://releases.ubuntu.com/intrepid/, for example. Down the bottom.
[04:27] <crdlb> jcapinc: define "interfering"
[04:27] <wgrant> mib_jyrwiwuq: The same thing will apply for Jaunty.
[04:27] <Scunizi> jcapinc: nope
[04:27] <jcapinc> I use gnome-do and whenever I have openoffice up the colors absolutely freak out on the docky bar, and window borders phase in and out
[04:27] <Lasivian> how can I restart khubd?
[04:27] <pc> juls4: is 1600x1050 in there?
[04:28] <pc> juls4: btw, it's certainly odd behaviour you are seeing
[04:28] <god__> ok I can understand not wanting to support satanic edition because it isnt official. but there is no reason why you should call people pathetic for using it. That makes the ubuntu comunity look bad.
[04:28] <mib_jyrwiwuq> Thats for intrepid not jaunty, jaunty doesnt have the installer
[04:28] <Scunizi> jcapinc: are you using the gnome-do doc? like Awn?
[04:28] <juls4> mikechelen: 02:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NV18 [GeForce4 MX 440 AGP 8x] (rev a2), and yes - proprietary
[04:29] <mib_jyrwiwuq> http://releases.ubuntu.com/jaunty/ has no wubi
[04:29] <jcapinc> Scunizi, yes, that is what is freaking out the most, but both the OO.o window and other window borders freak out a little too
[04:29] <mib_jyrwiwuq> thats why i was wondering
[04:29] <crdlb> jcapinc: what GPU?
[04:29] <mikechelen> juls4, with that chipset you may want to try picking an older version of the driver, or using envyng to help pick
[04:29] <jcapinc> crdlb, nvidia, do you want spacific?
[04:29] <Scunizi> jcapinc: have you tried gnome-do without the doc to see if it's something the doc is doing?
[04:30] <crdlb> jcapinc: are you using the -96 driver?
[04:30] <jcapinc> Scunizi, no I just noticed it, let me try that
[04:30] <Kimi> i installed ubuntu in frnd by resizing C /// now , he wants to reinstall xp sp3 by formatting his C drive and installing xp sp3 into it agagin.. will it anyway affect the installed ubuntu ??????
[04:30] <deadflow> ?
[04:30] <pc> juls4: nvidia's web site points to the -96 drivers for that chip
[04:31] <Lasivian> ok, the system is not allowing me to kill the khubd process
[04:31] <racecar56> still waiting...
[04:31] <juls4> pc: http://pastebin.com/d628faf4a
[04:31] <juls4> pc: that's what i'm using.
[04:31] <Scunizi> Kimi: yes.. you'll end up having to reinstall grub
[04:31] <Lasivian> how can I restart it?
[04:31] <RandomUsr> i want to organize gnome  like OS X and theme my window decorator like OS X.  How can I do this?
[04:31] <racecar56> i hate all if this idiotic lagging
[04:31] <jcapinc> crdlb, no im using version 177, and im only using that because 180 had moniter recognition problems
[04:31] <powderluv> kimi: it shouldn't affect the ubuntu install, however your grub menu will need to be reinstalled
[04:32] <philsf> !grub | Kimi
[04:32] <pc> juls4: you may want to revert to the -96 driver
[04:32] <philsf> Kimi, you'll need to follow the link above to get into ubuntu after reinstalling XP
[04:32] <racecar56> my computer is acting like i have VGA or something...
[04:32] <Lasivian> I guess rebooting is the only way eh?
[04:32] <jcapinc> Scunizi, alright I have tried what you suggest it, I can narrow it down to  OO.o because when I close docky, windows still behave improperly, as in when I hover over the minimize, max and close buttons it causes the window border on any window to phase in and out of visibility
[04:33] <juls4> pc: 96.43.10 - that's what I'm using. What should I revert to?
[04:33] <pc> juls4: actually, for 32bit, it points to the -180 driver :-/
[04:33] <juls4> pc: hmmmmm, now I'm confused.
[04:33] <Stanlin> Help plz, i have his problem http://pastebin.com/m6f52d6d9
[04:33] <pc> juls4: are you just using nividia-glx-96 ?
[04:34] <Scunizi> jcapinc: perhaps you'll also need to restart OO
[04:34] <jcapinc> Scunizi, yea,  tried that same issue, I actually closed all my programs and restarted everything, in fact thats how I found the problem
[04:34] <Stanlin> help?
[04:35] <Scunizi> jcapinc: do you have java turned on in the OO setup?
[04:36] <jcapinc> Scunizi, uh no, I actually dont know anything about that, OO is written in java?
[04:36] <juls4> pc: all it says is 96.43.10
[04:37] <Scunizi> jcapinc: nevermind.. you have to turn it on, on purpose.. not really needed.. still.. it might be that 177 driver you're using.  I really didn't like that one.. have you tried the 173 or the 180.11?
[04:37] <pc> juls4: how'd you install it? by hand, or the ubuntu way? :-)
[04:37] <seyfarth> WOW my sprint aircard works out of the box with ubuntu. I am IMPRESSED
[04:37] <juls4> the ubuntu way
[04:37] <jshriver> greetings
[04:38] <noIdeasOriginal> alright everyone, i was able to boot up on the PC woohooo.. now i have a question regarding creating a partition as well as setting up the initial user name
[04:38] <juls4> PC: via the 'hardware drivers'
[04:38] <jshriver> how do I make apache execute .pl scripts as cgi? I added all of the libapache2-mod-perl stuff
[04:38] <juls4> pc: ubuntu promoted me to install it, so yeah, the ubuntu way.
[04:38] <campee> has anyone experienced ubuntu 9.04 RC being unable to change your resolution?
[04:38] <jelly-bean> JackWat|Laptop, pc: ya that url earlier was the fix. just had to change the NetworkManger config to 'managed' and then i also had to undo all my changes to /etc/network/interfaces and then reboot and now my networkmanager works
[04:38] <jcapinc> Scunizi, huh, funny update, it only seems to cause problems when openoffice has focus, and I really dont want to mess with my video drivers, I did before and it was a nightmare to get my settings back, so if thats really all we can come to as the problem I will just deal with it, its nvidia's proprietary crap and not ubuntus
[04:39] <juls4> campee: YEEEEEEEES ...... :/
[04:39] <campee> i changed my resolution to something lower than what it was originally and now i can't change it back. i've tried renaming xorg.conf and generating a new one and it doesn't fix it.
[04:39] <Scunizi> jcapinc: k.. you might ask in OO's channel as well.. they might know something that we don't here.
[04:39] <TimothyA> http://www.bunny-comic.com/strips/180109.jpg :O
[04:39] <juls4> campee: I suggest you just leave the xorg.conf alone. It only makes things worse for me o_0
[04:39] <campee> juls4: what type of vid card do you have?
[04:40] <campee> it made no difference in my case
[04:40] <jcapinc> Scunizi, I will try but I suspect there will be few linux users there, thank you for all your help and thought
[04:40] <noIdeasOriginal> so i did the partition and then it asked who i was and to fill all that in... so i did but it wasn't letting me move forward. says username must start with a lower case letter which i did... why wasn't it letting me move on? then i hit back by mistake and took me back to partition again and i saw the 35% free space. but it was asking to partition AGAIN... can't i re-choose the partition i did initially or is that lost space now????
[04:40] <Scunizi> jcapinc: np.. you'd be supprised.. I've had good exprience there.
[04:40] <juls4> campee: I think its legacy now. 02:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NV18 [GeForce4 MX 440 AGP 8x] (rev a2)
[04:40] <jcapinc> Scunizi, thanks, which channel is that exactly?
[04:41] <pc> juls4: ok, ignore me, then.  very strange behavior...not sure why the 1280x1024 stuff is in there, shouldn't have an impact, tho
[04:41] <Dominicus> Can anyone help me with aptitude/apt-get/dpkg...? http://pastebin.com/d59a132b4
[04:41] <noIdeasOriginal> i figured out the issue i was having with nvidia and the whole aperture / IOMMU problem
[04:41] <campee> juls4: i have an intel 845
[04:41] <Scunizi> jcapinc: I believe it's #openoffice.org but I'm not sure what server.. you'll have to check their site
[04:41] <Kimi> philsf, Scunizi thnks
[04:42] <Scunizi> jcapinc: didn't ask.. do you have compiz turned on?
[04:42] <noIdeasOriginal> can someone help me out quickly
[04:42] <Stanlin> Help plz, i have his problem http://pastebin.com/m6f52d6d9
[04:43] <lanoxx> i installed libphp-jpgraph do i have to explicitely activate this mod in php.ini?
[04:43] <jcapinc> Scunizi, ah, its not on freenode, lol this server is all I ever IRC on, I forgot there were others! LOL yes I have compiz turned on, I actually used the compiz-icon to reload compiz and switch between metacity and compiz, so I know for darn sure its on
[04:43] <Stanlin> !hibernate
[04:43] <Stanlin> !sleep
[04:43] <Stanlin> !power
[04:43] <jcapinc> !sex
[04:44] <Scunizi> jcapinc: does the issue persist after turning compiz off?
[04:44] <Kimi> Scunizi, what must i replace in x and y here ? grub> root (hdX,Y)
[04:44] <jcapinc> Scunizi, no, it does not, but the gnome-do bar does not like the lack of compiz
[04:44] <tritium> jcapinc: cut it out
[04:44] <sancho21> What is the best way to add virus filtering? I have squid installed
[04:44] <Jordan_U> Dominicus, Can you please pastebin the output from "sudo sh -e -x /etc/init.d/acpid stop" ?
[04:44] <jcapinc> tritium, I iz sorry!  I was just being silly!  I only did it once ...
[04:45] <Scunizi> jcapinc: catch 22 if you know what that is.
[04:45] <seyfarth> I get a white screen at boot unless I force ubuntu into low-resolution mode. Anyone have any advice?
[04:45] <jcapinc> Scunizi, indeed, and I do know
[04:46] <Scunizi> Kimi: I've no idea.. the restore link for grub should tell you how to find the right numbers
[04:46] <jcapinc> tritium, I just wanted it to say "ubottu | Sorry, I don't know anything about sex"
[04:46] <Scunizi> !grub | Kimi
[04:46] <Kimi> Scunizi, ok.. thanks
[04:46] <Jordan_U> seyfarth, Most likely your graphics drivers are having a problem which is causing compiz not to render properly, most of the time disabling compiz will allow you to see the desktop but you probably still will have the underlying driver problem
[04:47] <blag> does anybody know of a guide to getting mpx to work on ubuntu?
[04:47] <Kimi> is it possible to add an icon near the clock in task bar so that when i use that the cd drive must eject and again click on that, the cd drive must get back in to it ???
[04:47] <seyfarth> Jordan_U: So is there a long-term solution you can think of?
[04:47] <macvr> hi all... i'm trying to check for log about my hibernate failure , which logs do i have to check in?
[04:48] <jcapinc> blag that depends a great deal on what mpx is
[04:48] <mikechelen> multipointer x
[04:48] <Dominicus> Jordan_U: Here's the result tacked onto the end of the original pastebin... http://pastebin.com/d2dfd5794
[04:48] <juls4> pc: something sure is having an impact. should I launch this as a bug?
[04:48] <blag> jcapinc: multi-pointer X
[04:48] <Jordan_U> Kimi, Yes, there may be one pre-made and if not you can make one easily with a launcher that uses the "eject" command
[04:49] <mikechelen> blag, have you found any debian mpx guides?
[04:49] <Kimi> Jordan_U, premade preferable :P
[04:49] <jcapinc> blag, well that sounds exciting, but I know nothing about it
[04:50] <Kimi> Scunizi, in this link : do i need to do quick start topic alone or i must follow the overwriting thing also ??
[04:50] <Kimi> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows?action=show&redirect=RestoreGrub
[04:50] <blag> mikechelen: havent looked yet.  i figure its fairly easy because its already in xserver-xorg, but how do i get it to actually recognize mltiple pointers?
[04:51] <Kimi> Scunizi, i mean, the first quick start topic is enough or i must follow the second topic there too ? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows?action=show&redirect=RestoreGrub
[04:51] <blag> mikechelen: i should have said i havent looked at debian guides yet
[04:51] <Scunizi> Kimi: if you're recovering grub after installing windows then you'll follow the second as well.
[04:52] <null_> hey, i was trying to build fltk, i compiled it okay, but when i tried "sudo make install" i got the error "Missing root.tar.gz !" I Googled this erre, and only got one result which was not at all helpful. anybody got any ideas?
[04:52] <Kimi> Scunizi, ok .. is it easy :P ??
[04:52] <Kimi> Jordan_U, ? can you help with pre-made or command plz ?
[04:52] <Scunizi> Kimi: as easy as it looks.. you might try just the first part "quick start" and try it to see if it worked.. if not go back and do the second part
[04:53] <Kimi> Scunizi, okk ! B-) thanks
[04:53] <Jordan_U> Kimi, If there is a pre-made solution you'll have to find it yourself, if you want to make one just right click the panel -> Add to Panel -> Custom Launcher -> in the command box put "eject -T" ( make sure you capitalize the T or it will always try to close the tray )
[04:54] <Kimi> Jordan_U, how to close it with the same icon ??
[04:54] <Jordan_U> Kimi, "eject -T" means that it will close the tray if its open and open it if it's closed
[04:54] <Kimi> have a q not related to ubuntu........ how do i make others not to use my nick ??
[04:54] <Jordan_U> Kimi, So that's all
 have a q not related to ubuntu........ how do i make others not to use my nick ??  <-- nickserv
[04:55] <Jordan_U> !register | Kimi
[04:55] <Kimi> Jordan_U, wow ! thanks... in my xp , i had to install someX thing....... thanks very mucuh
[04:55] <Jordan_U> Kimi, Registering the nick won't prevent other users from using it but you will be able to kick them off if they do :)
[04:56] <Kimi> Jordan_U, ok :P i want to kick them off :P :P
[04:56] <Jordan_U> Dominicus, That's interesting that the script did not fail, can you try "sudo dpkg --configure -a" and confirm that it still fails when called from the removal script?
[04:58] <Dominicus__> Jordan_U: http://pastebin.com/d40d29f94
[04:59] <Jordan_U> Dominicus, OK, then try aptitude reinstall again
[04:59] <alex__>  /join #ingo
[04:59] <alex__> join/ #ingo
[04:59] <MarkJones> Does anyone know if there is a printable size image of the Jaunty CD/DVD label? I was gonna make a nice lightscribe labeled disc here for the new release.
[05:00] <gg> When I boot into GDM, my mouse and keyboard don't work. The keyboard works in the command prompt (when I boot into recovery mode). When I restart HAL from command prompt and enter gdm, the keyboard and mouse work. But if I reboot the computer, it stops working again.
[05:00] <Dominicus> Jordan_U: reinstall of aptitude, or acpid?
[05:00] <Jordan_U> Dominicus, acpid
[05:01] <Guest26730> reconfigure x.org?
[05:01] <Jordan_U> gg, Are you using any non-standard repositories ?
[05:02] <Dominicus> http://pastebin.com/d64c821d6
[05:02] <Guest26730> or maybe your keyboard cables are just loose
[05:02] <MarkJones> ok ill go keep looking
[05:03] <gg> Jordan_U, no, this is a very standard install. I am running it through VMware, and if had this issue before and it seems to resolve itself sometimes. I can't remember what I did last time.
[05:04] <Schlep> If I delete the desktop folder and create a symlink to a NAS
[05:04] <Schlep> will that work?
[05:04] <Jordan_U> Dominicus, Does "sudo apt-get -d install acpid" download anything?
[05:04] <kkkkkk> i installed clamav.. where is it ?
[05:05] <Tetracomm> nicholas@nicholas-desktop:~$ sudo mount /dev/fd0 /media/floppy
[05:05] <Tetracomm> mount: you must specify the filesystem type
[05:05] <Tetracomm> It didn't require that yesterday, what do I do?
[05:05] <kkkkkk> i installed clamav using sudo aptget install ....... but where is it now ???? its not in applica ?
[05:05] <Jordan_U> Tetracomm, Same floppy as yesterday?
[05:05] <Salajadin> try restarting your system
[05:05] <Tetracomm> No, a different one.
[05:05] <Scunizi> kkkkkk: it's a command line ap
[05:06] <kindofabuzz> kkkkkk, there is a gui frontend, foget what's it's called, but otherwise it's just a command line app
[05:06] <Salajadin> oh hold on
[05:06] <Salajadin> did youinsatll the gui for clamav
[05:06] <Jordan_U> Tetracomm, Might be a bad floppy if mount can't automatically determine the FS
[05:06] <kkkkkk> kindofabuzz, E: Couldn't find package foget
[05:06] <Salajadin> type clamav in synaptics
[05:06] <kindofabuzz> kkkkkk, the only reason you need clamav is if you forward alot of attachements to windows users and don't want to pass along viruses, otherwise you don't need an AV
[05:06] <Salajadin> im sure the gui package for it will come up
[05:07] <Jordan_U> Tetracomm, Try: sudo mount -t fat /dev/fd0 /media/floppy
[05:07] <kkkkkk> kindofabuzz, my windows drives got more viruses
[05:07] <kindofabuzz> kkkkkk, that was" i forget what it's called" lol
[05:07] <Tetracomm> The other floppy works.
[05:07] <kindofabuzz> kkkkkk, apt-cache search clam, it should show up
[05:07] <Dominicus> Jordan_U: The deb package was already downloaded, so it didn't have to fetch anything -> http://pastebin.com/d5e81eb7e
[05:07] <kkkkkk> kindofabuzz, ok.. i thought its "FOGET" :P
[05:08] <blacknred0> ok, if i would like to upgrade my ubuntu - would it be healthier to do it right after the new release comes out or after a month, once most of the bugs are fixed? OR it doesn't really matter when?
[05:08] <blacknred0> thnx in advance
[05:08] <kkkkkk> y
[05:08] <kkkkkk> y
[05:08] <gg> mouse and keyboard not working in GDM. Any suggestions?
[05:08] <kkkkkk> sorry.. for y/n in terminal.. i was pressing y here
[05:08] <bitsbam> hey all, installed  Ubuntu on a drive with a 25 GB partition, and i am out of room, hardly any files really loaded after install. Anyone see this before?
[05:08] <bosco_> nick {bosco}
[05:09] <{bosco}> anyone know what time today ubuntu is comming out >>
[05:09] <{bosco}> ?
[05:09] <Scunizi> bitsbam: nope.. did you do manual partitioning?
[05:09] <tritium> {bosco}: not until 4/23
[05:10] <blacknred0> {bosco}, it comes out in 2 days
[05:10] <kindofabuzz> tritium, it may be 4/23 where he lives =)
[05:10] <Salajadin> gg, try reconfiguring your x.org?
[05:10] <{bosco}> i thought it came out on 4/22
[05:10] <tritium> kindofabuzz: not yet
[05:10] <kindofabuzz> install the RC of jaunty, pretty much the final, unless some must fix bug lands by the 23rd
[05:11] <Cyde> I'm using the apt-get CLI to install mtop.  On the first time I tried installing it, apport-qt popped up asking for my root password.  I closed it.  And now I can't seem to install mtop at all, even if I remove it first. The password prompt never returns.
[05:11] <Cyde> Any ideas?
[05:11] <{bosco}> tritium, so who knows what time on that day
[05:11] <Cyde> It just says this:  ERROR 1045 (28000): Access denied for user 'root'@'localhost' (using password: NO)
[05:11] <Jordan_U> Dominicus, Try "sudo apt-get -f install" again and see if you get the same error as last time ( It might be different since you successfully stopped acpid )
[05:11] <tritium> {bosco}: nobody
[05:11] <Salajadin> guys which is better? webmin or ebox
[05:11] <gg> Salajadin, how can I do that?
[05:11] <Scunizi> !webmin | Salajadin
[05:12] <kindofabuzz> i prefer webmin
[05:12] <Viral_Weaponry> :D
[05:12] <{bosco}> lol
[05:12] <Cyde> Huh, looks like that error is a MySQL error??
[05:12] <Salajadin> but i checked webmin last week and they have deb package for ubuntu
[05:13] <tritium> !webmin | Salajadin
[05:13] <kindofabuzz> Salajadin, i use webmin and have no problems that i can noitce, your choice
[05:13] <kindofabuzz> but i didn't know about that above =)
[05:13] <Salajadin> hard tochoose ^^
[05:13] <Salajadin> gg, try sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[05:14] <kdask> can anyone tell me when 9.04 goes gold?
[05:14] <Salajadin> or
[05:14] <usser> !jaunty
[05:14] <kindofabuzz> so ubuntu has pretty much strayed away from config file standards?
[05:14] <tritium> kindofabuzz: no
[05:14] <Salajadin> try sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[05:14] <bitsbam> exit
[05:15] <DasEi> kindofabuzz, there is still much, some optional, but basically it#s more in the kernel then in modules
[05:15] <kindofabuzz> k
[05:15] <Salajadin> guys, if i understand correctly ebox and webmin are like windows AD right?
[05:16] <kindofabuzz> i don't know what windows AD is
[05:16] <|dthacker|> Salajadin, I would say that ebox and webmin are graphic or browswer based config tools.
[05:16] <Salajadin> active directory?
[05:17] <|dthacker|> Which configure many linux services.
[05:17] <manpoole> why the move to diable ctrl alt backspace from 9.04?
[05:17] <blacknred0> Salajadin, i would say that both are the same, kind of
[05:17] <Salajadin> microsoft's active directory
[05:17] <gg> from within GDM, how can I exit and go to a shell prompt?
[05:17] <Dominicus> Jordan_U: Still not helping any. And with what the uninstaller is trying to do, it tries to kill the process i suppose, and then restart it. Because, it will start acpid up again. If your curious... http://pastebin.com/d1bd050c3   And, from what i'm finding, this is a reported bug since at least 6 days ago, however, it doesn't look as if anyone other than me is so far noticing that they...
[05:17] <kindofabuzz> webmin is just a browser based tool to config your server for various things. pretty complete too
[05:17] <Dominicus> ...can't aptitude install/remove/purge anything until the issue is fixed. Because, aptitude is being blocked from functioning.
[05:17] <|dthacker|> Salajadin: but neither of those are a directory service
[05:17] <kindofabuzz> gg ctrl-alt f1
[05:17] <ah7013> gg: Press Control+alt+f1
[05:18] <kindofabuzz> or f2-f6
[05:18] <ammagendut> i cant find "snow" option on my conpiz fussion
[05:18] <nephish> hey all, sorry, my irc client died. have a full hard drive on 25 GB partition? new install, what could do this?
[05:18] <mikechelen> having problem with pulseaudio, trying to connect in the manager says connection refused
[05:18] <Salajadin> yep ctr+alt f1tof6
[05:18] <gg> thanks, guys
[05:18] <Scunizi> nephish: : nope.. did you do manual partitioning?
[05:19] <Salajadin> dthacker waddya mean by they are not directory services?
[05:19] <ammagendut> Dominicus: help me.. i cant find "snow" option on my conpiz fussion
[05:19] <Scunizi> !info ebox
[05:19] <|dthacker|> Salajadin: we should jump to ubuntu-offtopic
[05:19] <Scunizi> Salajadin: they are apache management tools
[05:20] <Salajadin> hmmmmmmm
[05:20] <Dominicus> ammagendut: I don't run compiz fusion at the moment.
[05:20] <dotblank3> gg: you can simple use ctl+alt+f1
[05:20] <Jordan_U> Dominicus, One thing you can do is temporarily comment out the init.d script and hope that it is not required for a proper installation...
[05:20] <dotblank3> gg: then run "sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop"
[05:20] <gg> To return to gdm, I can just type "gdm"  ?
[05:21] <Skapare> back to an old networking problem, again ... I re-installed 64-bit this time ... enabled the proprietary wireless driver ... and installed a recent network-manager from SVN ... these steps got wirless working in 32 bit ... but in 64 bit it is not working and has the same misbehavior that 32 bit had at first, but now in 64 bit even the "fixed" network-manager isn't fixed
[05:21] <ammagendut> Dominicus: snow option not show on my compizconfig
[05:21] <Skapare> the basic symptom: wireless security settings are not properly fetched from the key ring
[05:21] <kindofabuzz> gg, ctrl-alt f7
[05:22] <gg> thanks. Where is the best place I can find documentation of these "shells" and the function keys
[05:22] <MarkJones> Does anyone know if there is a reason that there are no jigdo files for Jaunty RC Desktop images and only for alternative images? That normal? Maybe jigdo doesnt work for livecd images?
[05:22] <erka> I'm having getting an old 56k modem set up for a family member of mine. I've tried the linuxant drivers to no avail, and cannot seem to get things working. Can anyone help me with this? It is a Conexant external USB modem.
[05:22] <dotblank3> gg: the shell used most commonly is called bash
[05:22] <dotblank3> !bash
[05:23] <Skapare> MarkJones: I asked that question a couple days ago ... no answers ... hope you can get one now
[05:23] <gg> sorry, I meant to ask, where are F1,F2,F3 ... defined ?
[05:23] <kindofabuzz> gg, those are virtual terminals
[05:24] <MarkJones> Oh glad im not the only one wondering that. hehe
[05:24] <Jordan_U> MarkJones, jigdo doesn't work for live images, the liveCD has an installed system on it, the alternate is a small installer + all of the packages in the base system which are installed via apt. Jigdo gets the packages from the repositories to build the iso, hopefully you understand why that can't be done with the liveCD
[05:24] <morgan> When I plug in my ipod to the usb I can see the songs on there but when I turn on the ipod it doesnt haave them, any ideas?
[05:24] <Skapare> MarkJones: I was guessing maybe they didn't want people to create their own ISO in certain cases
[05:24] <Scunizi> erka: probably a soft modem.. there is a site that talks about different modems and their compatibility as well as recommended drivers or non-functionality.. I gave up on the 6 internals that I have lying around and one external 9pin serial Motorola..I bought an external usrobotics usb, small white no power supply needed.
[05:25] <dotblank3> gg: hmm I don't really know..
[05:25] <Scunizi> erka: one thing you might try is opening a terminal and typing dmesg, then plug in the modem and type dmesg again and see what the reference it for it.. it might be a totally different mount point than you think it is
[05:25] <Skapare> MarkJones: know anything about the network manager with respect to wireless security settings?
[05:25] <MarkJones> Ok thats what i figured. I know that the alternate installer images are for a text based installer.Ok at least i know now for sure.Thank you very much.
[05:26] <Scunizi> *for it is
[05:26] <erka> Alright, I'll try that now. I've gone through a few internals already, and just picked up this external in the hopes I could get it working.
[05:26] <Skapare> MarkJones: ah ... I didn't even know that about the alternate ... text, eh ... now I know something else :)
[05:26] <MarkJones> Umm no I have no experience with wirelesss and linux at all. Ive only heard of not so good linux wireless suport and that some people are using something to wrap windows drivers to work on linux.
[05:26] <MarkJones> Sorry
[05:27] <Skapare> MarkJones: I suppose if I had actually tried it, it would have been obvious ... but I'd be trying a lot of others first
[05:27] <MarkJones> Yeah never hurts to ask.
[05:28] <Scunizi> erka: this is what I bought that works fine for my faxing needs. http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=3718719&sku=U13-4292
[05:28] <Salajadin> wow im new in IRC stuff and i love this place already!
[05:28] <Skapare> MarkJones: seems to be a 32-bit vs. 64-bit issue ... actually the base network-manager in 8.10 is buggy reading wireless security settings ... a very recent .deb from SVN someone suggested fixed it ... so I now switch to 64-bit and do all the same but this time the new .deb (yes, 64-bit version of it) does not fix it
[05:28] <MarkJones> Hmm I have to call cable company tommorow Im only paying for 1.5Mbps and Im testing at 7Mbps.Better make sure i aint getting charged for it.
[05:28] <Salajadin> im learning lots of new stuff
[05:29] <Scunizi> Salajadin: welcome to the clan :)
[05:29] <Skapare> MarkJones: maybe jaunty has?  dunno ... too close to release for me to bother with the RC
[05:29] <MarkJones> yeah
[05:29] <Salajadin> thank you thank you
[05:29] <Salajadin> i installed jaunty 2 weeks ago
[05:29] <MarkJones> Im kinda bored so Im downloading the Jaunty RC image now myself.
[05:29] <Salajadin>  the not final version
[05:29] <Salajadin> its kinda cool
[05:30] <Salajadin> i think it's a bit faster too
[05:30] <kungpowza> quit
[05:30] <zhurai> ...
[05:30] <Skapare> well I'm not in a big hurry at the moment ... I don't see the value in doing the RC this late since they would not be able to fix it in the release based when I could make a bug report
[05:30] <Salajadin> i noticed there is a selinux folder in the filesystem of jaunty
[05:30] <Salajadin> anyone knows what it is?
[05:30] <MarkJones> I dont have any trouble with Intrepid except 1. Refuses to open alacarte menu editor.Cant add my lightscribe labeler to the menu.
[05:31] <zhurai> Salajadin: #ubuntu+1 for jaunty discussions
[05:31] <Skapare> Salajadin: they are spying on you ... just be quiet and obey
[05:31] <Tokenekie> Hi, I have a question about installing Jaunty on a live USB. Can anyone help me, or point me to the right channel regarding usb-creator package bugs?
[05:31] <zhurai> Tokenekie: #ubuntu+1 for jaunty discussions
[05:31] <zhurai> o/
[05:31] <Skapare> Tokenekie: #ubuntu+1
[05:31] <Tokenekie> thanks
[05:31] <bwm> hi, I'm trying to run Alsamixer to ts my sound.  Output here http://pastebin.com/m3a338731  Any thoughts how to fix?
[05:31] <Salajadin> sorry
[05:32] <MarkJones> wonder if the next ubuntu is a kangaroo
[05:33] <tritium> MarkJones: Karmic Koala
[05:33] <Skapare> I'm gonna go switch back to 32-bit and see what happens ... see if the network will work or not ... maybe something else I accidentally did a few days ago is what fixed it, instead of what people here told me to do
[05:33] <MarkJones> ahh
[05:33] <MarkJones> thats cooler
[05:33] <zhurai>  <MarkJones> wonder if the next ubuntu is a kangaroo <-- 9.10?.... 9.10 = Karmic Koala  o/
[05:33] <MarkJones> or shall I say Kooler
[05:34] <MarkJones> :P
[05:34] <Skapare> I know the driver works because it can see my networks SSID as well as 3 neighbor networks ... just can't connect because of wrong key
[05:34] <tritium> zhurai: scroll up a bit ;)
[05:34] <erka> Best I can tell, the modem is at cdc_acm ... is this correct? I'm rather new at trying to figure this out. And If so, is there an easy way to get it to work from here? Gnome-PPP does not give that option to detect from, and I'm running out of ideas. My family member is a rather impatient person, unfortunately.
[05:35] <MarkJones> Ok peeps Im off to try out the Jackalope-RC laters!
[05:35] <bwm> any takers on the alsamixer issue?
[05:35] <Skapare> zhurai: so that means the short name will be "karmic" ?
[05:35] <tritium> Skapare: yes
[05:36] <nephish> Scunizi: yes, manual partitioning
 zhurai: so that means the short name will be "karmic" ? <-- don't ask me, I'm not a dev (yet? atm? o/)
[05:36] <Skapare> it seems the names people are using are the adjective parts of the full names
[05:36] <nephish> Scunizi: thats why so weird, all media, songs, movies, etc.. are on their own drive
[05:37] <tritium> Skapare: yes.  I know, it doesn't make grammatical sense.
[05:37] <Scunizi> nephish: wow.. that only took 15+ minutes :) I'm suprised you found my post.. how large did you make your /home?
[05:37] <Skapare> like "jaunty" instead of "jackalope"
[05:37] <KyleK> can the livecd install to /dev/md0?
[05:37] <bullgard4> 'smbtree' no longer produces output. How can I fix that?  Setting in /etc/samba/smb.conf 'loglevel = 4' obtains many messages (http://paste.ubuntuusers.de/394831/) but none has led me so far to the error.
[05:37] <nephish> Scunizi: sorry, boss keeps calling.
[05:38] <Skapare> tritium: well, I never really got into the names, anyway ... and it was even more confusing with debian
[05:38] <wladston> numlock suddenly stopped working .. I tried rebooting the computer, changing the keyboard configuration, no luck. I know my keyboard didn't broke because on the login screen ( just there!) it works.... any suggestions on how to fix this ?
[05:38] <Scunizi> erka: yep sounds like the right kind of crazy address.. I've never setup ppp so others will have to guide you there.. I only use my modem for faxing.
[05:38] <MeI> hello, everyone
[05:38] <nephish> Scunizi: i had only two partitions .   /   and  /stuff    everything goes in /
[05:38] <Scunizi> nephish: how large is /stuff
[05:38] <MeI> got a question in regards to playing youtube videos.  just upgrade to Jaunty and youtube videos need flash again,
[05:39] <wladston> I'd hate to have to type everything using the normal keys ... it was working 10 minutes ago and the,, ... poofff ... gone!!! ;-(
[05:39] <erka> Scunizi: Ah, well thank you anyhow. Just trying to figure this out before I fall asleep lol
[05:39] <tritium> MeI: as before, flashplugin-nonfree
[05:39] <michasb> Hi all! I'm trying to wrap my head around Jaunty's OpenLDAP configuration. I know they switched to cn=config but I don't think it's setup initially and there is no slapd.conf. Any help would be appreciated.
[05:39] <nephish> Scunizi: stuff is the media partition  is about 211 GB
[05:39] <Scunizi> erka: you're closer.. sleep and google tomorrow
[05:39] <Scunizi> nephish: and / is 25 gigs?
[05:40] <MeI> tritium, hehe, let me try , forgot to put the nonfree part
[05:40] <bwm> am I in the wrong channel?
[05:40] <MeI> tritium, i have the newest version already installed
[05:40] <zhurai> bwm: depends
[05:41] <Skapare> I wonder if I should set up a dual-boot system ... 32 bit and 64 bit
[05:41] <MeI> tritium, weird, how can i check what other programs are trying to handle my flash videos?
[05:41] <erka> I might just have to do that. She can learn a little patience anyhow. I mean, she still uses dial up so I'd figure she'd be good at that already :)
[05:41] <tritium> MeI: it should work, then.  Ask in #ubuntu+1, since juanty isn't supported here for 2 more days.
[05:41] <Salajadin> get a vm
[05:41] <michasb> Basically, I'm wondering how to change OpenLDAP's configuration if there isn't a slapd.conf and cn=config isn't setup (at least it's not showing in slapcat and I didn't get asked for a password).
[05:41] <Salajadin> skapare try virtualbox
[05:42] <KyleK> 2 days? so like thurs? friday?
[05:42] <MeI> tritium, ok thanks
[05:42] <tritium> KyleK: 4/23
[05:42] <nephish> Scunizi: yes,  root folder is 25GB
[05:42] <KyleK> okay thurs
[05:42] <Tetracomm> Good night.
[05:42] <tritium> MeI: it should be the flashplugin, however
[05:42] <Salajadin> michasb, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/eBox
[05:43] <Scunizi> nephish: and you didn't setup a /swap?  25gigs should be plenty.. installed the system with software is around 4 gigs....
[05:43] <Scunizi> nephish: maybe 6 at the most
[05:43] <gg> GDM doesn't respond to mouse or keyboard unless I boot in recovery mode, " Drop to root shell prompt", restart the HAL, and run GDM.
[05:43] <DasEi> !LTS > ^Phantom^
[05:44] <Skapare> will jaunty support move to this channel after juanty is officially released?
[05:44] <tritium> Skapare: yes
[05:45] <Skapare> is wondering if he should bother with the RC or not
[05:45] <michasb> Salajadin: Thanks. I'm assuming installing eBox will allow me to configure the new OpenLDAP. I'll check it out.
[05:45] <bwm> zhurai: should I just be patient?
[05:46] <Salajadin> yep im checking it too
[05:46] <nephish> Scunizi:  Oh, i did set up a swap, sorry
[05:46]  * Skapare hates to download 2 ISOs and then download 2 more in 2 days (testing i386 and amd64)
[05:46] <nephish> Scunizi;  and yeah, i usually have a few gigs after a new install. Just wondering what may have gone wrong.
[05:46] <Salajadin> and it manages lots of config files usually used in networks
[05:46] <zhurai> you don't HAVE to dl the ISOs, technically if you are on 8.10, you can dist-upgrade
[05:46] <tritium> Skapare: you can rsycn the RC, and then rsycn the delta info on release day
[05:47] <tritium> (Or, simply update regularly after installing the RC.)
[05:47] <michasb> Skapare: run the Update Manager in Ubuntu once Jaunty is officially released. There is no need to download the ISOs again.
[05:47] <zhurai> as well as if you have the RC's you should just be able to regular update to latest...
[05:48] <gg> GDM doesn't respond to mouse or keyboard unless I boot in recovery mode, " Drop to root shell prompt", restart the HAL, and run GDM.
[05:48] <tritium> !repeat | gg
[05:48] <Salajadin> gg
[05:48] <Skapare> michasb: I'll be installing on several machines ... I don't want all of them to be working that way ... I will want the final ISO
[05:48] <Salajadin> are you in recovery mode
[05:48] <gg> I've tried both ways, Salajadin.
[05:48] <tritium> Skapare: then use rsync as I described above
[05:48] <Salajadin> so where are you now?
[05:49] <gg> shell of recovery mode.
[05:49] <michasb> Skapare: try apt-proxy or rsync as tritium suggests
[05:49] <ballisox> is anyone running the latest version of gadmin-proftpd in ubuntu 8.10 or Jaunty RC?  If so are you able to locate the "generate certificate button" anywhere in the GUI?
[05:49] <Skapare> tritium: I was just asking that in +1 ... missed your earlier message
[05:49] <bullgard4> 'smbtree' no longer produces output. How can I fix that?  Setting in /etc/samba/smb.conf 'loglevel = 4' obtains many messages (http://paste.ubuntuusers.de/394831/) but none has led me so far to the error.  /etc/samba/smb.conf: http://pastebin.com/f7615f1cc
[05:49] <tritium> Skapare: no problem
[05:49] <yakobmatrix> I am having problem with cooliris for linux
[05:50] <yakobmatrix> it says I need to update my openGL
[05:50] <Salajadin> gg, try sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[05:50] <yakobmatrix> any suggestion?
[05:50] <Salajadin> try it inside recovery or any tty's
[05:50] <WebDawg> how do i change the ssh port?
[05:50]  * Skapare doesn't see the rsync url posted
[05:51] <gg> Alright, I see the file, Salajadin
[05:51] <tritium> WebDawg: configure it in /etc/ssh/sshd_config
[05:51] <Skapare> tritium: I guess I didn't get that message to my client, can you give the URL again?
[05:51] <tritium> Skapare: which URL?
[05:51] <Salajadin> hoorah
[05:51] <Skapare> rsync
[05:52] <tritium> Skapare: I hadn't sent one.  It was merely a suggestion.
[05:52] <Salajadin> gg,  does it say anything about your keyboard
[05:52] <Salajadin> or mouse
[05:52] <Saiki> hey guys, can someonehelp e install the nvidia modual on my xubuntu install?
[05:52] <Skapare> tritium: oh ... well I don't know where to get it ... then I guess my question stands on #ubuntu+1
[05:52] <gg> Salajadin, no.
[05:52] <Salajadin> saiki, iinstall envy
[05:52] <tritium> Skapare: /msg ubottu rsync for general info
[05:52] <Salajadin> oh no
[05:53] <tritium> Saiki: no, don't
[05:53] <Saiki> it didn't work
[05:53] <tritium> !envy
[05:53] <Salajadin> well envy worked for me
[05:54] <Saiki> well, I tried the nvidia.run and it keeps failing
[05:54] <Salajadin> i know theres aneasy standard way to install nvidia but i forgot
[05:54] <tritium> Saiki: if you use envy, do so at your own risk, unless Salajadin is willing to provide you technical support (we don't here)
[05:54] <tritium> Salajadin: System -> Adminisration -> Hardware Drivers
[05:54] <Salajadin> yep thats it
[05:54] <Skapare> tritium: that's not giving me the URL for the rsync of the ISO ... just general info on rsync (I already know that)
[05:55] <tritium> Skapare: as I said, yes
[05:55] <Salajadin> and theres also installing from synaptic or maybe it was in the terminal
[05:55] <Salajadin> hmmmmm
[05:55] <Skapare> tritium: rsync doesn't do much good not knowing where to get the ISO that way
[05:55] <Saiki> not willing to use envy
[05:55] <Salajadin> gg,
[05:55] <WebDawg> tritium i did
[05:55] <tritium> !download | Skapare
[05:56] <WebDawg> i replaced it with my port
[05:56] <Salajadin> gg, where are you now?
[05:56] <tritium> WebDawg: did you restart it?
[05:56] <WebDawg> and did /etc/init.d/sshd reload and noting
[05:56] <str0m> hi all
[05:56] <michasb> Progress on OpenLDAP cn=config: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/OpenLdapCnConfigMigration
[05:56] <WebDawg> err
[05:56] <Salajadin> gg, quit the file
[05:56] <WebDawg> and did /etc/init.d/ssh reload and noting
[05:56] <str0m> how to install ipv6
[05:56] <Salajadin> then use this
[05:56] <tritium> WebDawg: you need to use sudo with that command
[05:56] <str0m> in ubuntu interpid
[05:56] <Salajadin> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[05:57]  * str0m forgot how to install it
[05:57] <tritium> Skapare: see download info above
[05:57] <WebDawg> heh
[05:57] <WebDawg> nice
[05:57] <WebDawg> would have been nice if it would have given a better error message
[05:57] <Saiki> what do you do when the modual fails to install?
[05:58] <raddy> Hello Everybody
[05:58] <tritium> Saiki: are you using System -> Administration -> Hardware Drivers?
[05:58] <raddy> Is final version available in torrent?
[05:58] <Saiki> that didn't work last time, but I'll try again
[05:58] <tritium> No, raddy.
[05:58] <^Phantom^> i have a laptop
[05:59] <^Phantom^> is the desktop cd the right one for me?
[05:59] <tritium> ^Phantom^: yes
[05:59] <Salajadin> yep it is
[05:59] <str0m> would somebody help me
[05:59] <^Phantom^> sorry, i have habit of enter as punctuation, i'll try to curb it here
[05:59] <raddy> tritium : Off, would delta isos be released for RCs?
[05:59] <KyleK> ^Phantom^: yay msn!
[05:59] <tritium> raddy: no, not that I'm aware of
[06:01] <^Phantom^> when i had 7.10 installed on the laptop nohing would install, i was wondering, could you guys please help me get 8.04 to work the right way and let me install things, after i get the cd?
[06:02] <ablmf> ssh login is very slow.  took 1 minute after password is typed
[06:02] <ablmf> what might cause the problem?
[06:02] <bullgard4> 'smbtree' no longer produces output. How can I fix that?  Setting in /etc/samba/smb.conf 'loglevel = 4' obtains many messages (http://paste.ubuntuusers.de/394831/) but none has led me so far to the error.  /etc/samba/smb.conf: http://pastebin.com/f7615f1cc
[06:03] <^Phantom^> i would really, *really* appreciate it
[06:03] <mike> hi everyone!
[06:03] <Guest36579> Hey guys, i hope i can ask everyonesomething
[06:03] <Demersus> I have a question about installing legersmb. Anyone willing to help?
[06:04] <Guest36579> i'm a total noob that has always wanted to try linux took the plug earlier today. guys i've been researching but can someone help me to where to start?
[06:04] <Guest36579> such as finding drivers.
[06:04] <Guest36579> i did searches for pc models. but no luck on that
[06:04] <Guest36579> do i look for the actual driver itself?
[06:04] <jert> Guest36579: what drivers are you looking for?
[06:04] <kindofabuzz> Guest11562, drivers for what? the linux kernel replaces the need for drivers
[06:05] <Guest36579> driver for dell xps
[06:05] <Guest36579> 410
[06:05] <kindofabuzz> ? what peice of hardware?
[06:05] <tritium> Guest36579: for which hardware?
[06:05] <jert> Guest36579: it looks like your video and network drivers are functioning
[06:05] <Demersus> Guest36579: What is not working correctly?
[06:05] <Guest36579> that the questions i hope u can answer.
[06:05] <Guest36579> do i search for each individual hardware
[06:05] <Guest36579> such as 8800gtx
[06:06] <jert> only if its not working
[06:06] <tritium> Guest36579: the vast majority of hardware is supported without the need for "drivers".  Some people like proprietary nvidia or ati graphics, for example, but otherwise, most things "just work".
[06:06] <Guest36579> oooo
[06:06] <Guest36579> okay good to know
[06:06] <jert> haha its very simple now mike, welcome
[06:06] <tritium> Guest36579: in the case of nvidia, if you want the proprietary drivers, use System -> Administration -> Hardware Drivers
[06:07] <mike> thanks im excited!
[06:07] <mike> =)
[06:07] <Saiki> why doesn't the nvidia*.run work?
[06:07] <Guest44425> hmm my sn keep changing
[06:07] <tritium> Guest44425: if you don't have a strong need for the proprietary drivers, I might suggest you not bother, if the open source driver is working for you.
[06:07] <Demersus> LedgerSMB anyone?
[06:08] <tritium> Saiki: we don't support nvidia.com downloads.  We have nvidia drivers in the repos.
[06:09] <mike__> How long has everyone been using linux?
[06:09] <Makaveli> helloo
[06:10] <jert> a few months now, still very much a newb here
[06:10] <Skapare> tritium: how about the vast majority of laptop wireless cards ... do those need "drivers" (I assume you mean the proprietary ones that have to be installed)
[06:10] <mike__> Does any have any must have app for linux?
[06:10] <flippo> mike__, you want a sum total, a median, or a mode?
[06:10] <Saiki> tritium: true, but they weren't installing earlier for me
[06:10] <bwm> anyone available? I'm trying to troubleshoot sound not working on a Dell Inspiron 1525, recently up to 8.04
[06:10] <Demersus> mike__:  I have used it exclusively for 3 years
[06:10] <mike__> =P
[06:10] <tritium> Skapare: wireless can be a little more problematic, and depends greatly on the hardware you have.
[06:10] <Skapare> tritium: mine needed the proprietary driver in 8.10
[06:10] <Makaveli> 1 day  :)
[06:10] <jert> mike__: depends, what do you use your computer for?
[06:11] <Skapare> tritium: fortunately it was on the ISO
[06:11] <mike__> ah very nice. I'm a technician for a school and they have been telling me to upgrade to linux already
[06:11] <mike__> well i'm currently trying to figure this operating system out right now
[06:11] <mike__> but currently my school uses novell
[06:11] <mike__> so it will be for server base
[06:11] <Demersus> mike__:  Linux is a very rewarding path to take
[06:11] <Skapare> tritium: that driver plus a new network-manager from svn ... got wireless working in 32-bit ... but not in 64-bit
[06:11] <^Phantom^> i swear to god, if i get the "not compatible with your computer type (i386). or the vendor decided not to support your computer type" message on everything i try to install, i'll scream loud enough to wake up dead people in their graves
[06:12] <jert> ^Phantom^:  still having those problems? :(
[06:12] <tritium> ^Phantom^: I've asked you before not to swear.  Please remain calm.
[06:12] <mike__> cant wait to get my hands dirty.. i'm a bit confuse though for all the "experts here"
[06:13] <MarkJones> Hmm first impression of Jaunty is nice.
[06:13] <^Phantom^> sorry, tiberius_, it was just so frustrating
[06:13] <Skapare> Phantom: what kind of computer do you have?
[06:13] <KingKimi> how do i open .bca files ??????? is there any in synpantic manger ?
[06:13] <Demersus> The linux kernel is my must have app
[06:13] <^Phantom^> even firefox couldn't install add-ons for itself ._.
[06:13] <^Phantom^> Dell Inspiron 640m
[06:14] <KingKimi> !jaunty > KingKimi
[06:14] <karmester> join# ubunut-hu
[06:14] <Skapare> Phantom: which ISO did you install?
[06:14] <noIdeasOriginal> is anyone here? i have a big problem i believe
[06:14] <heiwa> hello!
[06:14] <KingKimi> is it that tomorrow is the dday when jaunty will be released ?
[06:14] <Nhawdge> any possibly way I can tell a command to runn in the background so I don't have to wait for it?
[06:14] <KingKimi> heiwa, Hi !
[06:14] <Skapare> KingKimi: 23rd
[06:14] <karmester> join # ubuntu-hu
[06:14] <tritium> KingKimi: depends on where you are.  4/23
[06:14] <^Phantom^> i386
[06:14] <jert> Nhawdge: use a & at the end of your command
[06:14] <^Phantom^> desktop
[06:15] <kindofabuzz> Nhawdge, <command> &
[06:15] <KingKimi> tritium, tomorrow !!
[06:15] <tritium> KingKimi: depending on your time zone
[06:15] <Skapare> Phantom: and did the install at least finish OK ... even if stuff didn't work after rebooting?
[06:15] <KingKimi> tritium, :P okk ! what about yours ?
[06:15] <^Phantom^> i yeahg
[06:15] <Nhawdge> jert: kindofabuzz  now, how do I tell when it's done?
[06:15] <Skapare> Phantom: so then it's driver issues for you?
[06:15] <KingKimi> tritium, have you got your ubuntu 904 ?
[06:15] <^Phantom^> i don't know
[06:15] <kindofabuzz> Nhawdge, or use a virtual terminal, or use another tab in ghome-terminal, or use a different terminal window
[06:15] <tritium> KingKimi: yes, but please stay on topic
[06:16] <KingKimi> \join #ubuntu-offtopic
[06:16] <jert> Nhawdge: you will get a message when it completes
[06:16] <Skapare> Phantom: what doesn't work ... list from most important first
[06:16] <KingKimi> \join #ubuntu -offotopic
[06:16] <karmester> #join ubuntu-hu
[06:16] <tritium> KingKimi: you need /join
[06:16] <Nhawdge> jert: Thanks, kindofabuzz  it's headless server, ssh'd into it
[06:16] <KingKimi> tritium, thanks !
[06:16] <Skapare> KingKimi: forward slash
[06:16] <mike> sorry i must of got laged out
[06:17] <Skapare> KingKimi: remeber, Linux is forward, Windows is backward
[06:17] <Saiki> my restricted drivers icon won't open :@
[06:17] <eso> any of you got any experience with wlan 'disappearing'?
[06:17] <KingKimi> Skapare, :P :D  Linux is always forward ! B-) thanks for the info
[06:17] <Guest83699> can anyone suggest the program which let you do all the 3d effects?
[06:17] <eso> it's in lsconfig, but not iwconfig
[06:17] <^Phantom^> though, there is something i recall:  something mentioned my processor as i686
[06:17] <jert> eso: just fixed that today, what card + kernel are you using?
[06:17] <eso> uhm, lspci even
[06:17] <eso> jert: asus eee
[06:17] <eso> atheros
[06:18] <Skapare> KingKimi: well, there are uses for backslash ... like in C programming ... and a few others ... but not in filenames and not much in IRC
[06:18] <eso> and i'm such a noob i'm trying to figure out what kernel i'm using :P
[06:18] <KingKimi> Skapare, thanks again for the info
[06:18] <KingKimi> eso, uname ?
[06:18] <Skapare> /join #ubuntu-offtopic
[06:18] <jert> eso: uname -r
[06:19] <^Phantom^> here's a \ use in irc
[06:19] <KingKimi> eso, uname -a
[06:19] <eso> aye
[06:19] <eso> booting the damn thing now
[06:19] <KingKimi> !
[06:19] <eso> it worked perfectly fine last night
[06:19] <Skapare> Phantom: your processor probably is i686 ... but I don't know the Dell model so I can't be 100% sure
[06:19] <eso> turned it off, and now it the wlan won't come back
[06:20] <\Phantom> Inspiron 640m
[06:20] <jert> eso: that happened to me this morning, had to update to 4.10 and build the ath5k drivers
[06:20] <Skapare> I don't know the details of what's in that model
[06:20] <jert> finally works all the time, never get dropped
[06:20] <jert> 4.10 =7.10 *
[06:21] <mayagamer> y
[06:21] <^Phantom^> Intel Centrino Duo Processor, 2GHz
[06:21] <Makaveli> love intel :)
[06:21] <Flannel> jert: 7.10 isn't supported anymore.  You should upgrade to 8.04
[06:21] <tritium> jert: that's some bad math ;)
[06:22] <jert> Flannel, tritium: haha sorry i'm way too tired to be up, i upgraded to the latest version this morning ._.
[06:22] <Saiki> 7.10 isn't? I thiught that was til jaunty came out
[06:22] <eso> jert: 2.6.28-11
[06:22] <Flannel> Saiki: EOL was April 18
[06:23] <Saiki> ah..
[06:23] <Saiki> does hardy partial to something else?
[06:23] <Saiki> er..
[06:24] <Saiki> I'm onibex, sorry lol
[06:25] <Saiki> my ibex is doing a partial
[06:25] <eso> i also managed to download skype from skype.com
[06:25] <jert> eso: i suggest upgrading to 8.10 (this is the newest version i upgraded to this morning) by following instructions here http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/upgrading
[06:25] <eso> installed the deb, but now i can't remove it >_>
[06:26] <eso> jert: uhm, wouldn't that be downgrading?
[06:27] <KingKimi> jert, "newest" is 8.10 and few hours from now its 904 :P
[06:27] <Surlent777> hi; does anyone have an idea as to why Flash seems to not work while I'm using lxde, and yet is fine in GNOME, KDE, XFCE, Fluxbox, and UWE?
[06:27] <tritium> eso: you're currently running which release?
[06:27] <eso> 9.04
[06:27] <jert> oh
[06:27] <tritium> #ubuntu+1 for jaunty, eso
[06:28] <eso> aha
[06:28] <jert> youre right. im stupid
[06:28] <eso> but isn't there a way to make.. the wlan work again? :P
[06:28] <jert> what got it working was building the compat-wireless drivers
[06:28] <eso> like.. "wlan ENABLE"
[06:28] <eso> >_<
[06:29] <jert> haha if only it was that easy
[06:29] <eso> i mean
[06:29] <eso> the damn computer knows it's there
[06:30] <jert> eso: try sudo ifconfig <interface> up
[06:30] <eso> no such device
[06:30] <eso> that's it then
[06:30] <eso> fresh install
[06:30] <eso> :P
[06:30] <Ahadiel> eso, pastebin the output of 'ifconfig -a'
[06:31] <eso> Ahadiel: eth0, lo, pan0
[06:31] <eso> what's pan0? oO
[06:31] <Ahadiel> eso, Bluetooth something or other
[06:31] <eso> oh
[06:32] <Ahadiel> eso, So your problem is your wireless doesn't work?
[06:32] <eso> yeah
[06:32] <Ahadiel> eso, What card?
[06:32] <eso> worked fine until i shut down the computer
[06:32] <Ahadiel> Because usually eth0 is your wired connection
[06:33] <eso> sure is
[06:33] <eso> atheros ar242x
[06:33] <Ahadiel> eso, Trying using the Hardware Drivers tool?
[06:33] <Ahadiel> tried*
[06:33] <eso> yeah
[06:33] <Saiki> ho long does the nvidia driver/modual take to install and download?
[06:33] <eso> it suggest mad-something
[06:33] <eso> madwifi
[06:34] <eso> but that doesn't work
[06:34] <eso> thing is.. the wlan has been working ever since i installed ubuntu
[06:34] <Ahadiel> eso, Hrm, not sure then.
[06:34] <Saiki> eso: what wifi card?
[06:35] <eso> could me typing "iwconfig wlan0 rate 24M" have something to do with it?
[06:35] <eso> Saiki: Atheros
[06:35] <eso> it's an asus eee 900
[06:35] <Saiki> try ndising it?
[06:35] <Ahadiel> eso, Well if it isn't showing up with 'ifconfig -a', then it's not being detected
[06:35] <mike> guys
[06:35] <mike> can someone help me with gnome?
[06:35] <Saiki> mike: whatcha need?
[06:35] <eso> ubuntu is shit then :P
[06:35] <Guest83272> any link or guide you can point me to so i can use it
[06:36] <Saiki> eso: new atheros cards don't work with madwifi
[06:36] <tritium> eso: watch the language, please
[06:36] <eso> yes, yes..
[06:36] <jert> eso: this is what finally got me working http://wireless.kernel.org/en/users/Download
[06:36] <brandonmpace> yes they do Saiki
[06:36] <brandonmpace> You need madwifi-hal
[06:36] <brandonmpace> 10.5.6
[06:36] <Saiki> not the last 5 times I tried
[06:37] <brandonmpace> ^
[06:37] <Mike714> my sn keep changing.
[06:37] <jert> eso: build the compat-wireless drivers
[06:37] <Mike714> blah
[06:37] <jert> Mike714: there are lots of mikes on here haha
[06:37] <Mike714> i'm trying to get gnome to work
[06:37] <Mike714> but dont know where to start
[06:37] <Mike714> =(
[06:37] <Mike714> haha
[06:37] <eso> any way i can try installing the "same old" drivers?
[06:37] <Mike714> obviously i'm new,
[06:38] <co_gnteng> palembang
[06:38] <Saiki> oh goodie... my xorg is messed up :@
[06:38] <jert> eso: those are the same-old drivers, very comprehensive, and up to date.  its the only thing thats gotten my atheros card to work
[06:39] <eso> jert: did it work in the first place?
[06:39] <brandonmpace> eso do you have an email address I can send a tar file to?  I have the one that works with that card
[06:39] <jert> eso: it worked the first time i started ubuntu, and after a restart never worked again
[06:39] <jert> eso: didn't even show up until i built the drivers
[06:39] <dbbolton> how can i figure out the domain name of the computer i'm on right now?
[06:39] <unop> dbbolton, hostname -f
[06:41] <Saiki> um.. how do you fix a offset display?
[06:41] <eso> any ideas on how i can uninstall skype after i installed a version not meant for me?
[06:41] <MarkJones> try your monitor controls
[06:41] <MarkJones> eso: synaptic package manager
[06:41] <eso> not listed in synaptics or anthing
[06:41] <MarkJones> if its not listed it aint installed
[06:42] <eso> how come i use it then?
[06:42] <brandonmpace> sometimes the tar.gz you installed from has an uninstaller
[06:42] <brandonmpace> or if you used a script, same thing
[06:42] <eso> it was a .deb
[06:42] <brandonmpace> ah
[06:42] <Saiki> MarkJones: I tried, no luck
[06:43] <tritium> eso: sounds like it wasn't packaged properly.  synaptic should see it
[06:43] <kb0odu> eso: Can you use dselect to remove it or dpkg?
[06:43] <Saiki> eso: add it t synaptic
[06:43] <unop> eso,  sudo aptitude remove skype
[06:43] <MarkJones> Saiki: What did you install and what makes you think its wrong?
[06:43] <brandonmpace> then go         sudo dpkg -r <packagename
[06:43] <Saiki> the 180 driver
[06:43] <eso> unop: thanks :)
[06:44] <Saiki> and um.. had to describe
[06:44] <MarkJones> Saiki: open the driver manager and disable it.
[06:44] <matholum> hello everyone... I have googled this but have found no specific answer.... I am trying to install ubuntu on an older computer and I keep getting different errors. Sometimes it is a crc error - system hault... and most of the time I get a kernel panic con't read block (x,y) error... any idea what is wrong? I though it was the memory but i took a 512 stick from a working computer and I get the same thing....
[06:44] <brandonmpace> synaptic doesn't see a lot of 3rd party .deb's cause they're not packaged right
[06:44] <BladeNBrocade> matholum: sounds like a hdd issue
[06:45] <matholum> would reformatting help?
[06:45] <BladeNBrocade> could be memory as well
[06:45] <MarkJones> matholem I sent you a private message to help you.
[06:45] <Saiki> ok, now how do I mae it use the entire screen? (it' only using 3/4 atm)
[06:45] <MarkJones> Saiki: Did you check your monitor controls?
[06:46] <Saiki> yes
[06:46] <Saiki> the nvidia*.run fixes it, but why not the ubuntu one?
[06:48] <Salajadin> saiki, maybe because nvidia is proprietary
[06:49] <Saiki> possibly, but their run works
[06:49] <loafers> Does ubuntu have sid/test versions?
[06:49] <BladeNBrocade> weirdness
[06:50] <Surlent777> ok now what the explicative...I just logged out to test gnome, and now upon logging back in to lxde, the flash seems to be working, at least for now
[06:50] <^Phantom^> so, what is the concept behind 'Fringe' ?
[06:50] <Saiki> Surlent777: REBOOT?
[06:50] <Saiki> (sorry, hit caps)
[06:51] <^Phantom^> sorry, being casual while the download finishes
[06:52] <Surlent777> Saki: No reboot here...I have irssi here in screen, and you'll notice there was never a /part message from me...I detached screen, logged into GNOME, tested facebook, came back to lxde, reattached screen, and tested facebook and youtube, and now it's magically working
[06:52] <Salajadin> yep because it is proprietary nvidia's run works
[06:52] <^Phantom^> is there a casual chat?
[06:52] <Surlent777> #ubuntu-offtopic
[06:52] <Saiki> ubuntu-offtopic
[06:53] <Surlent777> err sorry Saiki, misread your name
[06:53] <^Phantom^> thankiews
[06:53] <Saiki> Surlent777: never noticed, to be honest
[06:53] <^Phantom^> =w
[06:53] <^Phantom^> -s*
[06:53] <^Phantom^> -w*
[06:53] <FloodBot2> ^Phantom^: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:53] <Saiki> no worries
[06:53] <Saiki> .....
[06:53] <^Phantom^> dang typos heh
[06:54] <Surlent777> but yeah, this is weird. Now to figure out how the explicative to edit the lxde menu...I hate dead/old/redundant entries
[06:54] <Saiki> (EE) Failed to load module "tpe1" (module does not exist, 0)  <wth?
[06:54] <BladeNBrocade> heh
[06:54] <Saiki> type*
[06:55] <Saiki> anyone know what to do about this error?
[06:55] <BladeNBrocade> xfonts
[06:56] <eso> i can't get audio to work in wine.. anyone know what to do?
[06:56] <dub> dialup speeds to emperor.canonical FTW
[06:56] <Surlent777> hmm...I guess to edit it's menu you have to mess with /usr/share/applications, for anyone who cares
[06:56] <eso> i only get errors when testing sound :\
[06:56] <Surlent777> its*
[06:56] <joanki123> is there an easy to to install tweet deck?
[06:57] <Saiki> (EE) Failed to load module "type1" (module does not exist, 0)  <wth?
[06:57] <Saiki> anyone know what to do about this error?
[06:57] <BladeNBrocade> xfont module? i think its deprecated..
[06:58] <crushy> i run fsck and it destroyed my file structure, i cant recover my files, any help ?
[06:58] <dub> use windows
[06:58] <paul68> Saiki: check this out http://www.google.be/search?q=(EE)+Failed+to+load+module+%22type1%22+(module+does+not+exist%2C+0)&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=com.ubuntu:en-US:unofficial&client=firefox-a
[06:58] <kole> okay I have libflashplayer.so on my desktop and want it in my firefox plugins folder... whats the terminal comand i should use to do so? cp what what what...
[06:58] <crushy> use windows?
[06:59] <dub> yeah, ubuntu fails, windows is far superior
[06:59] <crushy> i am on windows,  but not able to recover it made all files and folder into countless number of folders like #11102893 #12301831 and no file names even
[06:59] <dub> microsoft has better than dialup connectivity for one
[06:59] <Flannel> dub: Please be helpful when helping.  Thanks.
[06:59] <crushy> fsck does that
[07:00] <Saiki> crushy: you need o get stuff from your linux partion to windows?
[07:00] <Salajadin> saiki, check your /etc/X11/xorg.conf and see if type "1" is there
[07:00] <paul68> dub: if you like windows over linux why are you here then ?
[07:00] <BladeNBrocade> smh
[07:00] <Saiki> it's not, at least not that I saw
[07:00] <Salajadin> wait
[07:00] <BladeNBrocade> Saiki: do u have type1 xfonts installed?
[07:00] <dub> paul68, to troll, im butthurt about waiting >9000 hours to download 4MB from ubuntu mirrors
[07:00] <Salajadin>  i mean check for load "type1"
[07:00] <crushy> saiki: i need to recover my files from ext3 partition which is not showing any files, just had one folder lost+found cause i run fsck and it corrupted all
[07:00] <Salajadin> double check it
[07:01] <dash|x58> UBUNTU IS FOR FAG NIGGERS
[07:01] <BladeNBrocade> hmm
[07:01] <dub> roger that dash
[07:01] <BladeNBrocade> that should get someone banned...
[07:01] <dub> you dont ban jesus
[07:01] <Flannel> dub: please stay on topic.
[07:02] <dub> Flannel, ok, how about waking up the other carrier pigeon servicing emperor
[07:02] <Flannel> dub: What?
[07:02] <paul68> dub: select another mirror then
[07:02] <Saiki> Salajadin: section "module" dbe,extmod, type1, freetype, glx
[07:02] <Salajadin> can you comment out the type1 stuff
[07:03] <kole> !flash
[07:03] <paul68> !attitude |dub
[07:03] <Salajadin> likeblade said it is deprecated
[07:03] <paul68> !language | dub
[07:03] <BladeNBrocade> exactly
[07:03] <Salajadin> or hold on
[07:03] <Salajadin> did you use the 180 version for nvidia?
[07:03] <dub> paul68, is there an alternate old-releases. ?
[07:04] <Flannel> dub: No.
[07:04] <dub> awesome
[07:04] <Saiki> just a # in front, yes?
[07:05] <monkey2> hi
[07:05] <Salajadin> yep
[07:05] <monkey2> do any of you know anything about installing ubuntu on a PS#?
[07:06] <Salajadin> wait
[07:06] <Saiki> just id
[07:06] <Salajadin> saiki
[07:06] <Saiki> ?
[07:06] <Salajadin> did you use 180?
[07:06] <Salajadin> try sudo cat /proc/drivers first
[07:07] <Saiki> yes
[07:07] <unop> cat: /proc/drivers: No such file or directory
[07:07] <BladeNBrocade> why not lsmod?
[07:08] <kb0odu> isn't /proc/drivers a directory?  So you have to look at the files in there?
[07:08] <Saiki> no such file, diretory
[07:08] <_fynn> is it possible to use the gnome2-globalmenu package in debian?
[07:08] <kb0odu> /proc/driver
[07:08] <Salajadin> yep sorry
[07:08] <monkey2> anyone know???
[07:08] <Salajadin> i guess lsmod will do
[07:08] <BladeNBrocade> /proc/driver/nvidia/version
[07:09] <BladeNBrocade> if u want to be precise
[07:09] <monkey2> i just need to know if I can install it using a 480i TV
[07:09] <Boohbah> monkey2: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PlayStation_3
[07:10] <Saiki> is a directory
[07:10] <dub> 4938B/s
[07:10] <BladeNBrocade> NVRM version: NVIDIA UNIX x86 Kernel Module  180.11  Wed Nov 26 10:53:26 PST 2008
[07:10] <BladeNBrocade> GCC version:  gcc version 4.3.2 (Ubuntu 4.3.2-1ubuntu12)
[07:11] <Salajadin> have you tried sudo nvidia-xconfig
[07:11] <Saiki> yea
[07:11] <CokeNCode> guys, i've got a logitech precision, how do i get this thing to work with ubuntu
[07:11] <Salajadin> what happened?
[07:11] <CokeNCode> i already downloaded js
[07:11] <Saiki> nothing
[07:11] <CokeNCode> but, zsnes ... the emulator ... won't recognize up and down
[07:11] <Saiki> rebooting again
[07:11] <CokeNCode> or left and right
[07:11] <CokeNCode> only button pressing
[07:12] <Salajadin> so you mean you haven't rebooted yet
[07:12] <BladeNBrocade> CokeNCode: have u configured the device in zsnes.. the buttoon mappings etc..
[07:12] <Flannel> dub: Did you have a question we could help you with today? This channel is not here for complaints.
[07:12] <Salajadin> since installing nvidia?
[07:12] <BladeNBrocade> nvidia requires a reboot
[07:13] <Salajadin> or atleast resparting gdm
[07:13] <Salajadin> *restarting
[07:13] <CokeNCode> BladeNBrocade, that's what I'm trying to do, but zsnes won't do anything when i press up on the control
[07:13] <BladeNBrocade> yea.. taht too
[07:13] <CokeNCode> it's not accepting it
[07:13] <CokeNCode> even though js config does
[07:13] <BladeNBrocade> CokeNCode: ahh i see.. =) that was the extent on my knowledge of this
[07:13] <CokeNCode> lol, thanks neway BladeNBrocade
[07:13] <BladeNBrocade> np
[07:13] <monkey2> thanks for the link
[07:13] <Saiki> this makes reboot #5
[07:14] <monkey2> so it will install with a 480i
[07:14] <dub> Flannel, clearly there is a problem.
[07:14] <BladeNBrocade> Saiki: then rebooting isn't the issue
[07:14] <Saiki> nope
[07:15] <Salajadin> hmmmmmmm
[07:15] <BladeNBrocade> Saiki: can u paste bin some errors from your X logs?
[07:15] <Saiki> file dir plz?
[07:16] <rose> anyone familliar with AirOs SDK
[07:16] <Salajadin> do you have multiple kernel versions saiki?
[07:16] <BladeNBrocade> Saiki: as an FYI if ur going to be on a *nix,, get used to being under /var/log/*
[07:16] <Saiki> ibex's latest
[07:16] <dub> Flannel, I guess a pertinent questoin would be, why host anything that you would expect to have reasonable connectivit to, in england
[07:16] <Salajadin> howmany kernel versioons do you have installed?
[07:16] <Lexda> Argh.
[07:17] <Hetor> is it possible to switch keyboard layouts through a terminal command?
[07:17] <Salajadin> iused toencounter problems with that
[07:17] <Saiki> 2
[07:17] <Lexda> Does anybody else have FUSE mounting problems that appear sporadically?
[07:18] <BladeNBrocade> Saiki: have you found the log?
[07:18] <Saiki> pastebin.com/dc700551
[07:18] <Salajadin> saiki did you uninstall properly the nvidia drivers from ubungtu?
[07:19] <BladeNBrocade> logs should be the first place we go....
[07:19] <Saiki> Salajadin: should have
[07:19] <manpoole> Salajadin 13 seconds flat in boot chart
[07:19] <albech> is there a way to send small log-type information between two machines through a secure connection? thinking of a small listening daemon
[07:19] <Saiki> www.pastebin.com/dc700551
[07:19] <Saiki> http://pastebin.com/dc700551
[07:19] <Saiki> *
[07:19] <manpoole> although after my tweeks only shaved .15 seconds lol
[07:20] <Salajadin> 15 secons form?
[07:20] <manpoole> .15
[07:20] <Salajadin> oh
[07:20] <Salajadin> well
[07:20] <Salajadin> thats problem with bootup
[07:20] <Saiki> ?
[07:20] <manpoole> its my bios is whats slow
[07:20] <manpoole> thought about updating it
[07:21] <Salajadin> but your processing and disk reads and writes will be faster
[07:21] <Salajadin> maybe upgrade your bios
[07:21] <manpoole> with the concurrent booting?
[07:21] <Salajadin> flash it
[07:21] <manpoole> thats the only tweak i did
[07:21] <Salajadin> you mean concurrency is the only one you did
[07:21] <manpoole> yea
[07:22] <manpoole> well besides disabling half of the startup progs
[07:22] <Saiki> Salajadin: any ideas?
[07:22] <BladeNBrocade> Saiki: how many screens does your xorg have?
[07:22] <manpoole> although i did install conky and awn since the last bootchart
[07:22] <Salajadin> lspci | grep "VGA"
[07:22] <manpoole> wonder if it counts conky and awn delay start up
[07:22] <Saiki> 1
[07:22] <Salajadin> try that see if the settings are what you are exppecting
[07:23]  * Lexda wonders if anybody here has ever found a way to resolve the FUSE mounting errors.
[07:23] <Saiki> k
[07:23] <Saiki> sec
[07:23] <Saiki> yea, it is
[07:24] <Saiki> but gona try again with .run
[07:24] <Saiki> unless you got another idea about how to fix the unused parts
[07:26] <Salajadin> try that see if the settings are what you are exppecting
[07:26] <Saiki> Salajadin: but what would cause it towork one time and not another>
[07:26] <Saiki> Salajadin: it says 8400 GS. that's right
[07:26] <Salajadin> lehs try reinstalling it
[07:26] <Salajadin> sudo pat-get remove --purge
[07:27] <Saiki> ok, commnd plz?
[07:27] <Salajadin> sudo pat-get remove --purge <package.run>
[07:27] <Salajadin> sudo apt-get remove --purge <package.run>
[07:27] <Salajadin> sudo apt-get remove --purge <package>
[07:28] <anita20> Hi all. I need assistance. I´m a newbiegirl
[07:28] <Saiki> nvidia180.run doesn't eist
[07:28] <Saiki> lol
[07:28] <Salajadin> lol
[07:28] <Salajadin> the last one
[07:28] <Saiki> ?
[07:28] <phoe6> I made a mistake of editing /etc/sudoers file using sudo vim and there is parse error now
[07:28] <anita20> I installed xubuntu on an old machine and I cannot get 1024*768 as resolution
[07:28] <highl> ok
[07:28] <phoe6> I login to single user mode to correct it.
[07:28] <mikechelen> anita20, what video card?
[07:29] <highl> sdut
[07:29] <phoe6> but still the permissions are -r--r----- for /etc/sudoers
[07:29] <inasmu1> phoe6: you should only edit /etc/sudoers using the visudo command
[07:29] <Saiki> lol, it deactivated itself
[07:29] <phoe6> even in single user mode?
[07:29] <Salajadin> sudo apt-get remove --purge <packagenamewithversion>
[07:29] <Flannel> phoe6: always.
[07:29] <inasmu1> phoe6: correct, visudo will make sure the syntax is correct before saving
[07:29] <Flannel> phoe6: In single user mode, you only need to use "visudo" instead of "sudo visudo"
[07:29] <BladeNBrocade> hmm Salajadin did u take a peek at the logs?
[07:30] <Saiki> Salajadin: it deactivated itself, I reinstalled it
[07:30] <phoe6> visudo : /etc/sudoers: Read-only file system
[07:30] <phoe6> is the error I am getting.
[07:30] <Salajadin> blade i did
[07:31] <Saiki> phoe6: sudo it
[07:31] <anita20> mikechelen, *01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NV5 [RIVA TNT2/TNT2 Pro] (rev 11)
[07:31] <BladeNBrocade> phoe6: did u just edit that file and this happend?
[07:31] <Salajadin> blade do you think saiki should tr envy?
[07:31] <Salajadin> blade do you think saiki should trY envy?
[07:31] <mikechelen> anita20, do you have proprietary driver enabled in system-> admin -> hardware drivers?
[07:31] <phoe6> BladeNBrocade: I edited while logged  as my user.
[07:32] <BladeNBrocade> i think he should review or post his xorg
[07:32] <DasEi> anita20: which  monitor ?
[07:32] <phoe6> right now I am in single user mode,
[07:32] <BladeNBrocade> phoe6: i figured that...
[07:32] <Saiki> great... bios noise!
[07:32] <anita20> it´s a packard bell, don't know much about it, it had 1024*768 in WinXP
[07:32] <Salajadin> th?
[07:32] <phoe6> I cannot do sudo /usr/sbin/visudo /etc/sudoers too.
[07:32] <phoe6> throws a screenfull of errors
[07:32] <Saiki> I can post my xorg if you guys want
[07:32] <Flannel> phoe6: You're in single user mode, you don't need to sudo.  Just visudo
[07:32] <anita20> I'm downloading such driver
[07:33] <DasEi> anita20: if you got 7minutes, I'll boot another comp and give you an xorg ?
[07:33] <Salajadin> post it
[07:33] <mikechelen> anita20, probably enabling proprietary driver will help, if that doesn't work you may want to use an older version driver
[07:33] <phoe6> Flannel: if I just do visudo; I get Readonly file system error.
[07:33] <Saiki> sec, it's rebooting and being noisy lol
[07:33] <anita20> I would like a xorg yes, so I can try it out. i tried some from forums which didn´t work
[07:33] <slap_stick> hey, is gutsy no longer a supported dist? what is the next one to upgrade to?
[07:33] <BladeNBrocade> phoe6: u need to edit ur boot prompt to be "init=/bin/bash" it appears
[07:33] <Saiki> hardy lts
[07:33] <phoe6> I did that to enter into single user mode.
[07:33] <DasEi> anita20: brb
[07:34] <Flannel> slap_stick: gutsy hasn't been supported for six months.  Gutsty upgrades to Intrepid (7.10) which went EOL a week ago, which upgrades to 8.04.
[07:34] <Salajadin> blade
[07:34] <BladeNBrocade> and remove any bad characters u added in it and save it..
[07:34] <Salajadin> it seems her nvidia driver is still looking for type1
[07:34] <drinkycrow> i have no sound in firefox
[07:34] <anita20> thanks dasei
[07:34] <drinkycrow> flash plays ok
[07:34] <drinkycrow> but the sound doesn't
[07:34] <slap_stick> cool, so if i change my sources to point to the gutsy dist and do an update and an upgrade, that will do the trick?
[07:34] <Saiki> Flannel: you mean hardy, right?
[07:34] <phoe6> BladeNBrocade: I am over init=/bin/bash; but it does not been go into visudo /etc/sudoers
[07:34] <slap_stick> erm interprid not gutsy
[07:34] <Salajadin> Including the default font path /usr/share/fonts/X11/misc,/usr/share/fonts/X11/cyrillic,/usr/share/fonts/X11/100dpi/:unscaled,/usr/share/fonts/X11/75dpi/:unscaled,/usr/share/fonts/X11/Type1,/usr/share/fonts/X11/100dpi,/usr/share/fonts/X11/75dpi,/var/lib/defoma/x-ttcidfont-conf.d/dirs/TrueType.
[07:35] <slap_stick> intrepid*
[07:35] <BladeNBrocade> phoe6: so u weren't able to access the file in this manner?
[07:35] <BladeNBrocade> i dont understand ur over it...
[07:35] <Flannel> Saiki: 8.04 is Hardy.
[07:35] <inasmu1> phoe6: is your /etc/ on a different filesystem from / ?
[07:35] <BladeNBrocade> dought it
[07:36] <Saiki> "Gutsty upgrades to Intrepid (7.10)"
[07:36] <Flannel> Saiki: Oh, yeah.  I do.
[07:36] <Saiki> lol
[07:36] <Flannel> slap_stick: sorry.  Gutsy (7.10) has reached EOL last week.  You should upgrade to 8.04.
[07:36] <Flannel> !upgrade | slap_stick
[07:36] <phoe6> I am trying again; and this time its success. :)
 "Gutsty upgrades to Intrepid (7.10)" <-- ... Intrepid is 8.10, not 7.10
[07:37] <BladeNBrocade> awesome
[07:37] <phoe6> I had User_Alias OWNER = skumaran NOPASS << This was wrong.
[07:37] <inasmu1> phoe6: glad to hear it, visudo won't let you save anything with syntax errors
[07:37] <Saiki> zhurai: quoted flannel
[07:37] <phoe6> yeah.
[07:37] <slap_stick> thanks
[07:37] <BladeNBrocade> now u know
[07:37] <phoe6> Thank you guys..
[07:37] <BladeNBrocade> np
[07:37] <zhurai> Saiki: ah
[07:37] <rose> i'm building an AirOs firmware...but i have error at [ah_osdep.o]
[07:38] <inasmu1> How would I set my laptop to automatically change the cpufreqd governor when on battery?
[07:38] <MarkJones> Is there actually a way to register an IRC screen name? Ive just been typing in the same one each time but never registering it.Just wondered.
[07:38] <Flannel> !register | MarkJones
[07:38] <MarkJones> !register
[07:38] <MarkJones> ?
[07:39] <Salajadin> inasmu! i think i know
[07:39] <Flannel> MarkJones: /msg nickserv help register
[07:40] <MarkJones> still lost.
[07:40] <MarkJones> hehe
[07:40] <Salajadin> inasmu1 i was wrong
[07:40] <Saiki> http://pastbin.com/m7edacde5
[07:40] <BladeNBrocade> Salajadin: sorry yes i saw that the X is trying to load type1 modules,,,
[07:40] <Saiki> my xorg.conf
[07:40] <BladeNBrocade> thank you
[07:40] <Flannel> MarkJones: type "/msg nickserv help register" without the quotes, hit enter.  You'll get a new query window with nickserv, asking for help about registering.
[07:41] <Saiki> np
[07:41] <Salajadin> but have you tried cpu frequency scaling monitor?
[07:41] <MarkJones> So where do I actually do the registering?
[07:41] <BladeNBrocade> lol Salajadin copy and paste is better
[07:41] <Salajadin> copy pasting what?
[07:41] <Salajadin> xorg?
[07:41] <ottarw> does anyone knows if exist any chat with audio?
[07:41] <inasmu> Salajadin: right now I'm using a gnome applet which lets me choose the governor, but it has no way of automatically switching when on battery
[07:41] <Saiki> Salajadin: no idea how to do that
[07:42] <MarkJones> Ok i got it helps if I actually read stuff.
[07:42] <Salajadin> yeah thats it
[07:42] <Salajadin> im using it too
[07:42] <MarkJones> Hooda thunkit
[07:42] <Salajadin> or maybe something ike that
[07:43] <Salajadin> i manually set my cpu frequency
[07:43] <inasmu> Salajadin: I could probably write some HAL scripts, but they would undoubtably be kludgy and there has to be a better way
[07:43] <highl> highl
[07:43] <Salajadin> to ondemand
[07:43] <Salajadin> performace
[07:43] <BladeNBrocade> hmm looks like the default generation by nvidia... Saiki copying and pasting the URL's and anything else you would expect to be accurate http://pastbin.com/m7edacde5 <--this isn't pastebin ;>
[07:43] <Salajadin> powersave
[07:43] <MarkJones> Jaunty notificatiosn are pretty cool addition.I likey!
[07:43] <highl> golf
[07:43] <Salajadin> or conserve
[07:43] <highl> gift
[07:43] <pixely> how do you restart alsa ?
[07:43] <Saiki> im'm typing them
[07:43] <BladeNBrocade> i see
[07:43] <Saiki> http://pastebin.com/m7edacde5
[07:43] <Salajadin> inasmu, try
[07:43] <Salajadin> wait
[07:43] <Saiki> bad keboard, sorry
[07:44] <BladeNBrocade> =)
[07:44] <Salajadin> checking add/remove
[07:44] <MarkJones> jaunty seems faster than intrepid by a little bit.
[07:45] <DasEi> anita20: one last question ; newer crt monitor ?
[07:45] <highl_> you
[07:45] <MarkJones> crt yuk
[07:45] <BladeNBrocade> they still make those things?
[07:45] <Salajadin> inasmu try dogtail script recorder
[07:46] <MarkJones> yeah no kidding
[07:46] <highl_> china
[07:46] <MarkJones> good old china
[07:46] <Salajadin> blade
[07:46] <DasEi> anita20: ?
[07:46] <inasmu> Salajadin: what does that do? remember executed commands and then perform them at a later time?
[07:46] <Salajadin> what happened to saikis xorg
[07:47] <Salajadin> itrecords any desktop stuff you do
[07:47] <Salajadin> like macros
[07:47] <BladeNBrocade> nothing really interesting there its what nvidia generated
[07:47] <Salajadin> but i guess hal is better
[07:47] <Saiki> BladeNBrocade: exactly
[07:47] <c0l2e> in openoffice 3 you cannot treat string as 0 anymore???
[07:48] <Saiki> but ti not working, workd a few days ago :@
[07:48] <Salajadin> hmmmm should we let her use envy?
[07:48] <Saiki> <him
[07:48] <inasmu> Salajadin: can it be called automatically from events like "on battery power"?
[07:48] <coz_> ugg
[07:48] <Salajadin> sorry him
[07:48] <Saiki> np
[07:48] <Saiki> lol
[07:48] <BladeNBrocade> if it works for her
[07:49] <Salajadin> hmmmm inasmu, it utilizes python
[07:50] <Salajadin> i think it does but you need to manually add scripts to that
[07:50] <DasEi> anita20: ?
[07:50] <Salajadin> ok lehs try envy!
[07:50] <Salajadin> wait
[07:50] <Saiki> all ears
[07:50] <Salajadin> does envy support latest ubuntu
[07:51] <Saiki> evyng-core?
[07:52] <highl_> error
[07:52] <DasEi> Salajadin, yep, faound in apt
[07:53] <Salajadin> thnx
[07:53] <Salajadin> uhhhhhh
[07:53] <Saiki> downloaded and installed already lol
[07:54] <Saiki> ??
[07:54] <Salajadin> saiki holdon
[07:55] <Salajadin> sudo apt-get install envyng-qt
[07:55] <Saiki> k
[07:55] <Salajadin> thats the gui for it
[07:55] <DasE1> anita20 ?
[07:56] <Saiki> rebooting
[07:57] <samsoni_> #surabaya
[07:57] <Saiki> $%&*
[07:57] <yuwei> 有人吗
[07:57] <Saiki> still in lowbgfx mode :@
[07:58] <Saiki> type1 diesn't exist
[07:58] <yuwei> hello ...
[07:58] <Saiki> ideas
[07:58] <Saiki> ?
[07:58] <_fynn> what does that mean? i dont understand what i should do.. "[..] or you have to export GTK_MODULES=globalmenu-gnome manually in either .gnomerc or .bash_profile."
[07:58] <inasmu> Salajadin: I figured it out, and I was a little confused, I needed to write the scripts for acpi, not hal
[07:58] <yuwei> hello
[07:59] <Saiki> !hi
[07:59] <Saiki> !ask
[07:59] <Saiki> Salajadin: still the type1 error, ideas?
[07:59] <yuwei> hello ..............
[08:00] <quibbler> !ask | yuwei
[08:00] <Saiki> !ask | yuwei
[08:00] <Salajadin> hmmmm
[08:00] <BladeNBrocade> Saiki: u did an upgrade no?
[08:00] <yuwei> no ......
[08:00] <Saiki> a partial ibex forced
[08:01] <Salajadin> th?
[08:01] <BladeNBrocade> Saiki: u need to reinstall the drivers
[08:01] <yuwei> china
[08:01] <Saiki> BladeNBrocade: did that, a few times
[08:01] <quibbler> !cn | yuwei
[08:01] <Salajadin> saiki did you purge it?
[08:01] <Saiki> yes
[08:01] <BladeNBrocade> did your kernel update as well? exactly,, did u --purge?
[08:01] <Salajadin> have u installed nvidia via envy?
[08:01] <yuwei> i don't know ...........
[08:02] <Saiki> yes
[08:02] <Saiki> 2.6.27-11
[08:02] <Salajadin> you sure
[08:02] <Saiki> my kernel
[08:02] <Salajadin> saiki
[08:02] <Saiki> Salajadin: yesm 100% positive
[08:02] <yuwei> 有中国人吗 。。。
[08:02] <Salajadin> did you run envy already?
[08:02] <Saiki> yes
[08:02] <yuwei> 能说中文吗 。。。
[08:02] <Salajadin> and installed the correct driver?
[08:03] <Saiki> yes
[08:03] <BladeNBrocade> Saiki: when u installed the driver what mode are u in?
[08:03] <Saiki> but still says type1 dosn' exist
[08:03] <Salajadin> are you ssure your card is not legacy?
[08:03] <Saiki> define "mode"?
[08:03] <BladeNBrocade> Saiki: what are you in a GUI mode?
[08:03] <yuwei> 那你说句中文。。
[08:03] <Saiki> yes, I'm in a gui
[08:03] <inasmu> !cn | yuwei
[08:03] <BladeNBrocade> this isnt installing the driver correctly
[08:04] <yuwei> 。。。。。。。。。
[08:04] <BladeNBrocade> Saiki: have u ever stopped gdm then installed the driver then started gdm?
[08:04] <Saiki> rebooted
[08:04] <dstrbdfrk1> hey guys my comp started maximizing my windows past my top bar neone kno how to make it stop?
[08:04] <Flannel> yuwei: /join #ubuntu-cn
[08:04] <BladeNBrocade> but the GUI was up when u installed no?
[08:04] <Saiki> yes
[08:04] <BladeNBrocade> this needs to be installed with X not running
[08:04] <Saiki> I used envy
[08:05] <BladeNBrocade> ...
[08:05] <Salajadin> i guess blade'sright
[08:05] <yuwei> i don't know ...........
[08:05] <Salajadin> this is not working for you
[08:05] <dstrbdfrk1> whats the command to reset x
[08:05] <Saiki> Iwell, I'm in a root prompt in safe
[08:05] <Salajadin> ctrl alt backspace
[08:05] <BladeNBrocade> now install it
[08:05] <BladeNBrocade> that too
[08:05] <Saiki> cmd?
[08:06] <BladeNBrocade> find nvidiarun script and run it
[08:06] <BladeNBrocade> ./<scriptname>
[08:06] <yuwei>
[08:06] <yuwei> Chinese people do
[08:06] <Salajadin> brb
[08:06] <BladeNBrocade> is it uninstalled now ?
[08:06] <Flannel> yuwei: English only in this channel.  What language do you speak?
[08:07] <BladeNBrocade> uninstall nvidia COMPLETELY,, stay in command line mode,, and install from the script as root,, restart X and u believe you would be fine there...
[08:07] <Schlep> Anyone know how to keep adobe from exiting fullscreen when exiting the screen for another comp in synergy?
[08:07] <Saiki> sh nvidia180.run work?
[08:07] <BladeNBrocade> that would work i believe.. ./ is the same diff
[08:07] <Saiki> ok, next?
[08:07] <unop> Saiki, better to.  chmod +x  nvidia180.run; ./nvidia180.run  # the .run file might not be a shell script
[08:08] <BladeNBrocade> well there u have it.. make it executable if its not
[08:08] <BladeNBrocade> next reboot
[08:08] <FlashGordon2000_> unop, are you helping him install nvida drivers?
[08:08] <eper3z> how can i upgrade to 9.04 from 8.10 w/o erasing my 8.10 install?
[08:08] <inasmu> !upgrade | eper3z
[08:08] <BladeNBrocade> umm
[08:09] <eper3z> ok thanks
[08:10] <FlashGordon2000_> saiki: if its relevant, this helped http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=5086971&postcount=6
[08:10] <yuwei> hello
[08:10] <BladeNBrocade> Saiki: when u finished rebooting ur X should be fine
[08:10] <yuwei> Chinese people do ????
[08:11] <quibbler> yuwei, type this : /join #ubuntu-cn
[08:12] <yuwei> Chinese people do ????
[08:12] <BladeNBrocade> ?
[08:12] <yuwei> ?
[08:12] <BladeNBrocade> karate?
[08:12] <FlashGordon2000_> Can anyone assist me with a problem regarding Nvidia's x server and it not being able to save /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[08:12] <Salajadin> wow saiki i think you better use flashgordons link
[08:13] <BladeNBrocade> sudo nvidia-settings
[08:13] <yuwei> ..............
[08:13] <yuwei> hello
[08:13] <Salajadin> i believe that link is comprehensive enough
[08:13] <FlashGordon2000_> salajadin: it made my x work lol
[08:13] <Saiki> hm... I didn't have build essentia, wtf?
[08:13] <Salajadin> it shows proper uninstallation and installation of nvidia
[08:14] <Salajadin> well there are different cases
[08:14] <Salajadin> envy made mine work ll
[08:14] <Salajadin> lol
[08:14] <BladeNBrocade> Saiki: that wont work when u need to build the driver..
[08:14] <Saiki> tried eny again
[08:14] <Salajadin> sometimes manual install makes t work
[08:14] <BladeNBrocade> Saiki: that envy thing is weird..
[08:14] <BladeNBrocade> oopsy i mean Salajadin
[08:14] <Salajadin> why is it weird?
[08:14] <BladeNBrocade> new to me
[08:15] <Salajadin> lol
[08:15] <Saiki> hm...
[08:15] <Salajadin> its just an automationo script for installing ati and nv drivers
[08:15] <Saiki> moe errors :@
[08:15] <Salajadin> saiki
[08:15] <BladeNBrocade> i see
[08:15] <Saiki> ya?
[08:15] <Salajadin> have u tried flash's link?
[08:16] <Saiki> not yet
[08:16] <FlashGordon2000_> its a quite comprehensive guide to removing previous attempts and installing
[08:16] <Saiki> trying .run again first
[08:16] <FlashGordon2000_> its your best bet
[08:16] <BladeNBrocade> hmm
[08:16] <BladeNBrocade> maybe u should view the link.. if that run didn't work the first time,, chances are it wont the second
[08:16] <^Phantom2^> YAY
[08:17] <^Phantom2^> YIPEE!!!!
[08:17] <^Phantom2^> yes, my caps lock got stuck
[08:17] <^Phantom2^> it worked
[08:17] <Salajadin> if nothing works install msttcorefonts lol
[08:17] <^Phantom2^> perfectly
[08:17] <^Phantom2^> Thank you so much guys!!
[08:17] <BladeNBrocade> =Z
[08:18]  * BladeNBrocade loads vuze
[08:18] <Saiki> BladeNBrocade: got build this time
[08:18] <BladeNBrocade> Saiki: awesome..
[08:18] <Saiki> lol
[08:18] <Salajadin> great
[08:18] <BladeNBrocade> have u not started X at all? because that should work
[08:19] <Saiki> I was in recovery
[08:19] <BladeNBrocade> o
[08:20] <daning> Hi. When exactly can ubuntu 9.01 be downloaded?
[08:20] <inasmu> !jaunty | daning
[08:20] <Saiki> ok, trying the guide now :@
[08:20]  * BladeNBrocade waving his 9.04 beta around
[08:20] <Saiki> didn't work
[08:20] <FlashGordon2000_> sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf  /etc/X11/xorg.conf.mybackup
[08:20] <FlashGordon2000_> this did not work
[08:20] <BladeNBrocade> blah
[08:20] <Salajadin> saiki
[08:21] <Salajadin> there are some commands in the guide that we forgot to do
[08:21] <maxagaz> how to configure the resolution automatically for a new large screen (for an intel video card) ?
[08:21] <Wizzup> One day to 9.04's official release :)
[08:21] <BladeNBrocade> sudo apt-get remove --purge nvidia*
[08:22] <jzeee> Hey I installed ubuntu, and was fine.. then out of nowhere about 2 inch of the with on each side is blacked out..HELP PLEASE!
[08:22] <Salajadin> T_T
[08:22] <daning> Wizzup: I'm really excited about this.
[08:22] <Salajadin>  <== persecuted
[08:22] <BladeNBrocade> or sudo nvidia-installer --uninstall
[08:22] <Salajadin> yep
[08:22] <BladeNBrocade> ?? Saiki which did u use to remove?
[08:22] <Salajadin> and the x.org file dits
[08:22] <Wizzup> daning: I am using it now, I really like it. :-)
[08:23] <mchelen1> how can nic card be set to use dhcp from command line?
[08:23] <jzeee> Two inches on both side of the screen are BLACKED out what do i do???
[08:23] <Salajadin> mch i know
[08:23] <FlashGordon2000_> gksudo nvidia-settings
[08:23] <jzeee> anyone know what 2 do?
[08:23] <daning> Wizzup: Some thing is don't stable,like ext4. So I have not tried it.
[08:24] <Wizzup> daning: I haven't triend ext4 either, I don't know it too well yet
[08:24] <jzeee> My monitor was fine before then 2inch on each side of monitor the is black on side of screen
[08:24] <Saiki> step 5 won't work
[08:24] <Salajadin> /etc/network/interface
[08:24] <inasmu> jzeee: have you tried going to System -> Preferences -> Screen Resolution and changing that?
[08:24] <daning> Wizzup: I want to taste kubuntu, but I am used to gnome.
[08:24] <jzeee> Yes that is what mess it up
[08:24] <pr0t0c0n> what is the command to install the xubuntu desktop from the command line
[08:24] <Wizzup> daning: I don't like KDE as much as Gnome, so I don't use Kubuntu. :-)
[08:25] <inasmu> jzeee: you mean you changed the resolution to one that wasn't widescreen, so it centered it in the middle? have you tried changing it back?
[08:25] <jzeee> insami I got a smaller screen for a desktop pic but the resolution was too small so I put it back
[08:25] <anita20> I tried using a config someone at this forum provided me with, in order to run an nvidia TNT" pro on xubuntu and monitor looks strange
[08:25] <BladeNBrocade> Saiki: why wont adding the nv module to xorg work?
[08:25] <anita20> I don't think we got the right frecuency. I see the information four times and not properly
 we set it for 80hz how do i change that back?