[15:34] <escott> gwallace42, (a) is there a /dev/sda1 (b) what are the contents of /proc/partitions (c) can you fsck /dev/sda1
[15:35] <econdudeawesome> Holy cow the Unity desktop interface is a bowl of suckage. How do I get back my normal Gnome2 session where things work, like Docky and Adobe Flash nsflash plugin and compiz?
[15:35] <NyvenZA> holy crap text font on boot up is totly screwed, if I try and boot with just one screen in now
[15:36] <escott> econdudeawesome, ubuntu classic from the gdm login screen (after putting your name in)
[15:36] <usr13> escott: gwallace42   Best not to fsck a running file system.
[15:36] <SERGioooo> schnuffle:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/600788/
[15:36] <escott> usr13, he is in his initrd
[15:36] <inertial> I'll make the effort to try unity for a few days...
[15:36] <usr13> o
[15:36] <econdudeawesome> escott: In Ubuntu classic my metacity won't work, and my gnome menu won't popup with alt+f1
[15:36]  * NyvenZA tries to use the other monitoer olone on startup
[15:37] <maximus_> escott, hey! you helped me before, was wondering if you know a command I can use to suspend natty without su...want to add it as a keyboard shortcut
[15:37] <gwallace42> escott: (a) yes there is a /dev/sda1.  (b) there are 4 entries in /proc/partitions (sda, sda1,sda2, sda5) sda2 has a block count of 1 (c) I ran fsck.ext4 on /dev/sda1 while booted from LiveCD.  Found a couple issues and it fixed them.  Rebooted after and same result.
[15:37] <NyvenZA> ok, only on one screen now and can still not click on anything or use keyboard shortcuts.
[15:37] <escott> maximus_, don't use suspend myself
[15:38] <Fredje> maximus_:  you can try this: echo <password> | sudo -S commando
[15:38] <NyvenZA> CTRL + Alt + F1 does work so I can get to a console at least
[15:38] <step2> maximus_, the menu option doesn't work?
[15:38] <maximus_> escott, ty
[15:38] <schnuffle> SERGioooo: https://bugs.launchpad.net/gwibber/unity-lens-gwibber/+bug/758839
[15:38] <escott> usr13, do you know how the initrd transfers into the true root? is it just a bind mount?
[15:38] <maximus_> Fredje, will try that
[15:39] <escott> gwallace42, sda2 is an extended partition with a single logical (sda5 for swap) inside it. blockcount 1 is normal
[15:39] <usr13> escott: I don't know... sorry
[15:39] <maximus_> step2, too lazy to use the mouse every time, when i'm running out the door its cool to have a button to press..my old logitech had one, new kb doesnt
[15:39] <gwallace42> escott: I recognized the others, just not sda2...
[15:39] <usr13> escott: What is he trying to do?
[15:39] <escott> gwallace42, can you check the output of mount to confirm sda1 not mounted
[15:39] <ramb0> Hey, I need some help with natty.. Have just upgraded from maverick and the log in buttons just dissapeared =/ Its like that image but without the password field and the Cancel and Log in buttons.. any advice?
[15:39] <usr13> escott: gwallace42 df
[15:40] <escott> usr13, he is stuck in initrd because drive was not ready
[15:40] <usr13> o
[15:40] <step2> maximus_, there prob is one (but not sure if without su) but I don't know it, maybe google will help :)
[15:40] <maximus_> step2, thanks
[15:40] <Mehrab_> vibhav : network-manager-gnome   . and you can find the script here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=6924258&postcount=1
[15:40] <escott> gwallace42, sounds like a race in your boot with initrd wanting to mount the rootfs and the pci not being fully initialized. we probably need to put a delay in for your hardware
[15:40] <SoftTimur> hello all, does anyone know how to unlock the top panel and move it in ubuntu 11.04?
[15:41] <escott> gwallace42, confirm that you can mount the sda1 partition with mkdir /mnt/rootfs; mount /dev/sda1 /mnt/rootfs
[15:41] <step2> SoftTimur, you mean with unity?
[15:41] <gwallace42> escott: according to df and /proc/mounts /dev/sda is mounted to /
[15:41] <schneidmaster> Hey, does anyone know how to modify application launchers in natty? (ie, change the command)
[15:41] <SoftTimur> step2: I do not see what is "unity"?
[15:41] <escott> gwallace42, sda or sda1?
[15:42] <step2> SoftTimur, the new default desktop with one panel on top and one on the left
[15:42] <SoftTimur> step2: I just do not like the position of the top panel, I want to put it on the right
[15:42] <escott> gwallace42, can you ls the contents of /home then? do you see your home folder
[15:42] <NyvenZA> vibhav: ok, on one screen teh same thing happens, the icons are just not stretched
[15:42] <gwallace42> escott: i see everything in my /home directory.
[15:42] <step2> SoftTimur, I got that but I need to know what you are using. if you are in unity you can't move it
[15:43] <NyvenZA> I think ramb0 anad I have a similar probblem
[15:43] <escott> gwallace42, hmmm well thats weird
[15:43] <SERGioooo> schnuffle:  so it;'s not yet fixed/
[15:43] <SERGioooo> ?
[15:43] <SoftTimur> step2: what do you mean by "in unity"?
[15:43] <schnuffle> SERGioooo: apparently
[15:43] <HerCury> schneidmaster: here's a related link that might help http://askubuntu.com/questions/34597/how-do-i-make-a-custom-launcher-for-terminal-applications
[15:43] <ramb0> NyvenZA, I didn't read your problem >.< I can't just log in into natty :(
[15:43] <gwallace42> escott: I tried the previous command to mkdir rootfs in /mnt and mount to that, but can';t as fjile system is in read-only mode.
[15:44] <NyvenZA> ramb0: I upgraded and I just get the desktop
[15:44] <NyvenZA> no login
[15:44] <NyvenZA> I can't click on anything and I can't use the keyboardshortcuts
[15:44] <escott> gwallace42, yeah you don't need to do that. i thought sda1 wasn't getting mounted
[15:44] <pension> can someone take a look at http://<IP_ADDRESS>/bug.html
[15:44] <slimjimflim> anybody know the best way to install eclipse pdt on ubuntu?
[15:44] <step2> SoftTimur, I told you ... it's a desktop environment that is new with one panel at the left (that autohides) and one on the top. there is still the option to choose the old environment on login
[15:44] <NyvenZA> I do see that if I move my mouse over where the login should be , the edit cursor appreas
[15:44] <step2> !unity
[15:45] <escott> gwallace42, mount -o remount,rw / and see what it says
[15:45] <gwallace42> escott: this is all very odd.
[15:45] <schneidmaster> HerCury: not really actually.  I just want to modify the Skype launcher so it executes the command "webcamWrapper.sh skype" instead of "skype" (as this is the script I used to solve my inverted-webcam bug)
[15:45] <ramb0> NyvenZA, have you tried reinstalling GDM ?
[15:45] <schneidmaster> I could make a custom launcher but then I just have two launchers in unity
[15:46] <nphase> what do you guys suggest for setting up an ftp server?
[15:46] <NyvenZA> not yet,
[15:46] <defiantredpill> vsftpd
[15:46] <step2> schneidmaster, you can remove the other one. making a custom one prob. easier than modifying
[15:46] <NyvenZA> ramb0: have you ?
[15:46] <nphase> defiantredpill: cool thx
[15:46] <nphase> so not proftpd?
[15:47] <escott> gwallace42, if you can remount you could try sudo init 5 to see if you can get to a gui
[15:47] <ramb0> its not my computer which has the problem, it's my uncle's computer, who is in another state :P can't just tell him "reinstall GDM"
[15:47] <maximus_> Fredje, AWESOME! i used      bash -c "echo 559 | sudo -S pm-suspend"    and it works perfectly (= If i ever meet you i'm buying u a beer!
[15:47] <escott> gwallace42, you don't even need the sudo
[15:47] <NyvenZA> lol
[15:47] <schnuffle> nphase: profpd does the job, I use it
[15:48] <NyvenZA> It is my work PC so now I can't work
[15:48] <SoftTimur> step2: I see... is there a quick way to go back to the classic/previous layout?
[15:48] <Fredje> maximus_: Nice that it works for you!
[15:48] <nphase> schnuffle, defiantredpill: proftpd > vsftpd?
[15:48] <maximus_> Fredje, lol yes i just published my password...blonde moment
[15:48] <nodie> hi, I've installed 11.04 this morning and I'm using Unity, I suppose that I've activated some type of keybind and now the bar at the left is always on
[15:48] <escott> gwallace42, i wonder if the device could have been mounted in between the error message and the time it took us to start running commands in the busybox shell
[15:48] <nodie> I want it to appear and disappear
[15:48] <Fredje> maximus_: lol!, I did not even notices:P
[15:49] <escott> gwallace42, have you ever waited to see if the error will disappear on its own?
[15:49] <defiantredpill> vsftpd is what ubuntu recomends in the server guide, i used it before, config is not too bad. never used proftpd
[15:49] <schnuffle> nphase: don't have enough experience with vsftpd o judge
[15:49] <nodie> how can I do that?
[15:49] <Aikar> nodie: if i was gonna keep unity i woulda asked you how you did that, i hate auto hide, but im ditching unity
[15:49] <codebeaker> hi all, why doesn't 11.04 include postgresql 9.x ?
[15:49] <nodie> Aikar, I don't know what I did!
[15:49] <Aikar> ;p;
[15:49] <Aikar> lol
[15:49] <nodie> and I hate it there, it's distracting
[15:49] <schnuffle> nphase: if ubuntu suggests vsftpd then use it
[15:49] <HerCury> nodie: install ccsm and select autohide from unity plugin section
[15:49] <maximus_> Fredje, only have a simple one coz ubuntu wants one...so no biggie. Thanks for ur help. chow
[15:49] <Aikar> sudo apt-get remove unity && sudo apt-get install avant-window-navigator!
[15:50] <nphase> schnuffle: i dont know what it suggests
[15:50] <nodie> HerCury, what is ccsm ??
[15:50] <step2> SoftTimur, choose 'logout' (top right menu i think) then at the login screen there is a bar at the bottom where you can choose
[15:50] <escott> !ccsm | nodie
[15:50] <schnuffle> nphase:  defiantredpill: vsftpd is what ubuntu recomends in the server guide
[15:50] <dd214> Is there a way in Unity to open multiple terminals?  I have the terminal docked in taskbar, but if I want to open more than one terminal, I've got to use the Unity search to open a new terminal window...
[15:50] <nphase> ok
[15:51] <gwallace42> escott: Waiting gives 2 messages: spaming Maintenance Shell and init: moutall main process terminated with status 3
[15:51] <rigved> dd214: Ctrl+Alt+T
[15:51] <Mehrab_> vibhav : sorry to bother again, but have you got my reply?
[15:51] <defiantredpill> Does anyone know where to find the list of patches in the ubuntu kernel. (not the one big diff)
[15:51] <defiantredpill> https://help.ubuntu.com/10.10/serverguide/C/ftp-server.html
 I was AFK for some time
[15:52] <schneidmaster> I figured it out if anyone cares lol.  Themes&tweaks -> main menu lets you edit launcher commands
[15:52] <t67> In Epiphany when I go to Edit > Personal Data > Passwords, I see nothing, but my passwords DO show up in seahorse.
[15:52] <ramb0> NyvenZA, I have told my uncle to reinstall GDM :p let's see what happens..
[15:52] <NyvenZA> ok, this is just stupid, on reboot, I get my desktop being displayed, but I can't click on the icons, When I move the mouse around, on the screen around the middle of the screen the cursor chnages to the edit icon. So the login windows looks like it is there, but ic an't login to it.
[15:52] <t67> How come Epiphany Edit > Personal Data > Passwords is empty?
[15:52] <gsp2009> good morning folks. Anyone here now running natty, with twinview? is it normal to have the top panel duplicated on both screens?
[15:53] <Dr_Willis> gsp2009:  ive heard that dual screen + unity can be quirky
[15:53] <joru> im running the livecd of 11.04 and suddenly i can only use mouse, no more way of clicking windows etc. ideas?
[15:53] <escott> gwallace42, init 5 didnt do any good?
[15:53] <biffbaxter> Ha...anything with unity can be quirky :)
[15:53] <Fredje> Dr_Willis: Thanks for the info then I will wait with upgrading my laptop
[15:53] <Vhozard> how can I view boot messages ?
[15:53] <gsp2009> Dr_Willis, ok.. thanks.. this is not good news for me..
[15:53] <NyvenZA> Dr_Willis: and gsp2009 I also have issues, but i am trying it on one screen now and still have issues
 right click on terminal and click on "OPen Terminal"
[15:54] <Mehrab_> vibhav : ok, so I repeat: network-manager-gnome   . and you can find the script here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=6924258&postcount=1
[15:54] <escott> gwallace42, im just curious if you can resume the boot from this point or if it is completely borked
[15:54] <gwallace42> escott: it ran through some options, and dropped me to a terminal login.
[15:54] <step2> Vhozard, depends which ones ... 'dmesg' for one
[15:54] <escott> gwallace42, ok
[15:54] <gsp2009> NyvenZA, everything else works fine for me it seems. Just a little weird having the panel twice.
[15:54] <Vhozard> the one that you see on startup, step2
[15:54] <somethinginteres> Vhozard: dmesg from terminal?
[15:55] <Dr_Willis> http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/04/become-a-natty-power-user-in-no-time-using-this-unit-keyboard-shortcuts-wallpaper/   Worth checking out for unity beginners
[15:55] <chopin> i think my gvfs on 10.04 is screwed up ... won't connect to a smb share.  anyone know where to look / what to do?
[15:55] <escott> gwallace42, is udevd --daemon running
[15:55] <Vhozard> how can I scroll in it from within terminal?
[15:55] <mikebeecham1> Hi guys...I've removed the recommended nvidia drivers, rebooted and now I have no display. I can get into ttyl...can anyone help me get display back?
[15:55] <gwallace42> escott: Glad I decided to to my master backup of my work data yesterday.  But I hate having to reinstall VBox and winXP again.
[15:55] <Xeli> hello, i'd like to change from kde to unity, can i use the same documentation as when one would switch from kde to gnome?
 I gtg sorry!
[15:55] <usr13> Vhozard: shift PageUp
[15:55] <Vhozard> thanks
[15:55] <v_v> when i use the liveCD  to install 11.04, it supports unity. but the installed ubuntu on my laptop doesn't, how to enable unity ?
[15:56] <escott> gwallace42, well the drive seems fine so you should be able to copy the system image around (if you don't mind moving multi gig files around)
[15:56] <rpk> Can someone tell me how to disable gpg key validation in synaptic?
[15:56] <escott> gwallace42, and i've been told that there is an install option for presevering /home
[15:56] <escott> preserving
[15:56] <Dr_Willis> v_v:  install the unity2d package perhaps.
[15:56] <usr13> rpk: why?
[15:56] <gwallace42> escott: Cant say, my login is not working.  I have logged in on a terminal before, but its not working today .
[15:56] <Dr_Willis> v_v:  or install the proper 3d drivers for the laptop
[15:56] <TA> hi
[15:57] <escott> gwallace42, my suspicious is that the boot is going too fast there seems to be nothing wrong with the drive
[15:57] <rpk> Adding ppa repositories doesn't respect my proxy settings as set through network manager
[15:57] <semitones> so -- what are the common questions that people ask about nattttty
[15:57] <Fredje> TheAnachron: Hi
[15:57] <rpk> And I'm done trying to hack config files to fix it
[15:57] <rpk> usr13: I don't care if my packages are verified, I want it to just work
[15:57] <escott> gwallace42, if it were me I would see if there is some what to slow down the boot process. i know you could do it by gunziping the initrd, and adding a sleep somewhere between when udev starts and the remount happens
[15:57] <escott> gwallace42, there may be a better way though
[15:57] <usr13> rpk: sudo apt-get update
[15:58] <rpk> usr13: GPG error: The following signatures couldn't be veriefied because the public key is not available ....
[15:58] <NyvenZA> arg, why the hell does the kernel source MakeFile file have the wrong version in?
[15:58] <gwallace42> escott: i tried one of the older kernels in grub just to see if it makes a difference, but that didn't.  I may just have to download the image on my laptop and re-install.  I will check grub and see if the is something in there that can slow the boot process.
[15:59] <rpk> usr13: Therefore, I'm fine turning off all of gpg, I just need to know how to disable it
[15:59] <NyvenZA> it has <IP_ADDRESS> and the kernel that comes with natty is <IP_ADDRESS>
[15:59] <gwallace42> escott: thanks for the help man...appreciate it.  Have a good one
[15:59] <escott> gwallace42, goodluck
[15:59] <NyvenZA> I can't recompile the vboxdrivers now
[15:59] <igor_> hola
[15:59] <semitones> Natty's keyboard is less responsive than maverick's -- anyon equess why?
[15:59] <escott> gwallace42, the initrd process isn't that bad, just annoying, you just unzip, loop mount the file, make your changes and then mkinitrd and replace
[15:59] <igor_> !list
[16:00] <usr13> rpk: Your problem may be in sources.list
[16:00] <rpk> Yes, I often add ppas with add-apt-repository
[16:01] <dennda> When you hit super in unity, it gives you these nice numbers for the apps. That doesn work for Chromium. Is there a fix? Also, how is that number-feature called?
[16:01] <rpk> usr13: because add-apt-repository does not use the proxy settings, it can't handle getting the gpg key
[16:01] <axisys> how do I put lvm on ubuntu desktop ? I do not see LVM option
[16:01] <rpk> usr13: therefore any ppa I have will fail to install / update.  Obviously this makes ubuntu unusable.  Therefore I would like to disable gpg verification of my packages
[16:02] <Rigorm0rtis> Hello. I'm having some trouble with Thunderbird and Unity. I can't access the main menu for the application. Any know what's going on?
[16:02] <usr13> rpk: If your proxy configuration is correct, apt should use it too.
[16:02] <izinucs> axisys: lvm is part of the alternate install cd.. and not on the desktop live cd
[16:02] <ActionParsnip> dennda: works here, clean install natty
[16:02] <lgp171188> Hi, I found in Ubuntu Natty that Gwibber supports only Twitter, Identica and Facebook accounts though actually Gwibber supports more social networks. Why?
[16:02] <DasEi> axisys: use manual partitioning, use extended ones, that sets up lvm
[16:02] <usr13> rpk: Can you ping a valid domain name?   try this;  ping av.com
[16:02] <ActionParsnip> rpk: you may need to add the config in apt.conf
[16:02] <Dr_Willis> lgp171188:  perhaps theres some plugins it needs installed.
[16:03] <exchgr> is anyone else missing a ton of indicator applets?
[16:03] <usr13> rpk: ActionParsnip may be correct.  I don't know.
[16:03] <DasEi> exchgr: I did and switched back to gnome
[16:03] <usr13> rpk: ActionParsnip But I've used a proxy before and never had to do that.
[16:03] <axisys> izinucs: no wonder why I did not see it
[16:03] <exchgr> DasEi, how do I go about doing that?
[16:03] <ActionParsnip> rpk: in /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/proxy     put     Acquire::http::Proxy "http://proxy:8080";
[16:03] <cbart> how do you add applets to the top unity panel?
[16:04] <ouss999> hi
[16:04] <heedlu> cbart: you really can't
[16:04] <axisys> DasEi: i guess with alternate iso correct?
[16:04] <linux> canale in ita
[16:04] <ActionParsnip> usr13: i've hadto add it in the past, then i stopped using proxy
[16:04] <linux> ?
[16:04] <DasEi> exchgr: under powerbutton > set default session > gnome-classic
[16:04] <lgp171188> Dr_Willis: Exactly. I see now that there are packages to add social networks. But I am wondering why these networks which were present, were moved to plugins while Twitter, Identica and facebook escaped? Guess it is due to popularity
[16:04] <heedlu> cbart: they are called indicators now, and they are not the same
[16:04] <Dr_Willis> lgp171188:  and disk space.
[16:04] <exchgr> DasEi, thanks
[16:04] <tjiggi_fo> !it | linux
[16:04] <DasEi> axisys: best, yes, more options there
[16:04] <cbart> great.
[16:04] <ActionParsnip> usr13: rpk: https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/synaptic/+question/1320
[16:04] <usr13> ActionParsnip: I guess not all proxys are equal :(
[16:05] <dennda> ActionParsnip: just did the very same thing
[16:05] <rpk> ActionParsnip: yeah, I'm at work.
[16:05] <axisys> DasEi: are you saying desktop live may have lvm option as well?
[16:05] <NyvenZA> how can i change back to classic login / gui fromthe command line. I can't see the login screen to select it there
[16:05] <ActionParsnip> usr13: i guess, I used polipo, nice and simple
[16:05] <somethinginteres> linux !lang-it
[16:05] <Dr_Willis> NyvenZA:  you could edit the .dmrc file I guess.. but im not sure what belongs in there for classic desktop
[16:05] <wazzup> how can i find out my cpu temp in ubuntu ??
[16:05] <dennda> ActionParsnip: ok i had to restart chromium
[16:05] <cbart> can you atleast change the order of the icons on the left panel?
[16:05] <rpk> ActionParsnip: not sure that applies, we don't have to authenticate, but I added it so I'll see if it works
[16:05] <hodges> Is the Launcher in nutty narwhal fixed or can I move it?
[16:05] <lgp171188> wazzup: You need to install sensors
[16:05] <usr13> ActionParsnip: I see....  Thanks info
[16:05] <wazzup> ok will try
[16:05] <Sylphid> hey all....having a problem with front panel audio, if i start audio it everything defaults to rear panel however if i run aplay /some/audio.wav and start another track durring the aplay it goes to the front panel, any tips on how to toggle between front and back panel only?
[16:05] <ActionParsnip> hodges: it's natty, not nutty
[16:06] <lgp171188> wazzup: sensord and sensor-applets
[16:06] <hodges> ActionParsnip, I was close for guessing.
[16:06] <DasEi> axisys: should, if you choose manuall partit. and then set up extended partitons, that will be done with lvm, also if you use default > whole disk, it's lvm
[16:06] <ActionParsnip> hodges: its stuck on the left now, it may be movablelater
[16:06] <gnychis> how can I enable Unity in the Preferences or Administration?
[16:06] <noteventime> Anybody have any idea whether there have been any changes in natty relating to xmodmap? It no longer wants me to disable caps lock.
[16:06] <hodges> thanks
[16:06] <wazzup> lgp171188 : when i search for sensors > i get 100 matches
[16:06] <DasEi> axisys: the alternate gives more options, though
[16:06] <ActionParsnip> dennda: does the button flash if you use thesuper key to launch the app?
[16:06] <mnoyce> I'm getting quite annoyed with applications seemlingly defaulting to opening maximised, e.g. Totem. Is there anyway to turn this maximise behaviour off?
[16:06] <axisys> DasEi: default whole disk is LVM? i did not know that.. will it put /boot on separate slice as well?
[16:07] <rpk> ActionParsnip: actually, my proxy settings are already there from network manager
[16:07] <dennda> ActionParsnip: kind of, yes
[16:07] <lgp171188> wazzup: the package names are 'sensord' and 'sensor-applets'
[16:07] <ActionParsnip> rpk: i see
[16:07] <wazzup> ok
[16:07] <dennda> When you press meta in unity, it brings up this search dialogue. How do you map that to another key combination?
[16:07] <DasEi> axisys: no, boot is under root in default unless you use encryption
[16:07] <tjiggi_fo> wazzup, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SensorInstallHowto
[16:07] <usr13> ActionParsnip: rpk   It seems to me that if you can ping a valid domain name then the proxy is not the issue.  Am I right in my assumption?
[16:07] <DasEi> axisys: so is home
[16:08] <axisys> DasEi: i use only my home dir encrypted.. so i guess i will be ok
[16:08] <usr13> rpk: Did you try pinging   av.com ?
[16:08] <DasEi> yes
[16:08] <rpk> usr13: no, I can't ping out as well
[16:08] <dennda> The default behavior annoys me to no end
[16:08] <somethinginteres> linux: Ubottu !it
[16:09] <usr13> rpk: Ok.  I'm convinced.  You are on the right track.
[16:09] <rpk> usr13: However, I can get tot the internet through firefox or chrome
[16:09] <Sylphid> usr13, ping would not go through the proxy, it would follow the default route
[16:09] <thebishop> anyone get the Synaptics clickpad to work in Natty?
[16:09] <usr13> Sylphid: Depends on the proxy.
[16:09] <rpk> Sylphid, usr13, yeah afaik thats correct, ping should ignore my proxy
[16:09] <rpk> however, apt-add-repository should not, but does
[16:10] <Vhozard> how can I add vga=xxx to grub ?
[16:10] <ActionParsnip> usr13: ping uses a different protocol so may be different
[16:10] <usr13> Sylphid: There are different types of proxys
[16:10] <ActionParsnip> Vhozard: add it in /etc/default/grub in the quotes with:  quiet splash
[16:10] <rpk> oh, and as an aside, how am I supposed to get to windows under other windows in unity?
[16:10] <ActionParsnip> Vhozard: then run: sudo update-grub
[16:11] <Vhozard> <--- used to editing /boot/grub/menu.lst
[16:11] <Vhozard> :P
[16:11] <koichirose> Hello, I just upgraded to Ubuntu 11.04 and many firefox icons don't show up anymore, including the back button, stop button and the firefox icon itself (!). How do I fix it?
[16:11] <rpk> like if I have this chat windows open with chrome over it, and I get a notification that someone replied
[16:11] <usr13> Sylphid: There is HTTP Proxy  and Transparent Proxy etc.
[16:11] <Sylphid> usr13, ping will only ever go through the proxy if it is also the default route
[16:11] <noteventime> rpk: I think the new bar thing gives you a list of all available windows for each application as a popup (similarly to the way gnome can group similar windows)
[16:11] <rpk> how do i switch back to chat without minimizing chrome
[16:11] <rpk> yeah, but I have two monitors and its all the way on the left
[16:11] <Dr_Willis> rpk:  i just alt-tab a lot.
[16:11] <maximm> how do i support 2 monitors ?
[16:11] <maximm> i can only use one atm since the upgrade
[16:12] <rpk> and with the new bar I have no way to select which specific windows i'd like to open
[16:12] <rpk> either
[16:12] <bl4ckcomb`> maximm, make sure you have the correct display driver
[16:12] <Dr_Willis> rpk:  the omgubuntu blog site has a wallpaper- keyboard shortcuts thing.  may be in there.
[16:12] <rpk> it pretty much sucks right now :(
[16:12] <usr13> Sylphid: With a Transparent Proxy, it will be the default route.
[16:12] <maximm> the other is enabled but unity isn't runnin on it and it is just my wallpaper
[16:12] <Liiin> Hello
[16:12] <bl4ckcomb`> maximm, what card do you use?
[16:12] <rpk> Dr_Willis: already looked at that already
[16:12] <Sylphid> usr13, correct
[16:12] <maximm> i had it setup before it sees my nvidia
[16:12] <Dr_Willis> rpk:  if you have 3 terminals  open and 1 icon. and click on that icon it should do a layout of all 3.
[16:12] <usr13> Sylphid: What he has is probably HTTP proxy.
[16:12] <ActionParsnip> Vhozard: grub2 doesn't use that now, editting the grub file will add the option to all future kernels for you
[16:12] <Sylphid> usr13, agreed
[16:12] <maximm> just no window decorator or menus on the second screen
[16:12] <chadi> Hi. This could be a serious problem. While ubiquity was downloading new packages before installing, i hit skip, and it hanged. What do I do now?
[16:12] <rpk> usr13, ActionParsnip: https://bugs.launchpad.net/software-properties/+bug/443404
[16:13] <noteventime> rpk: It doesn't give you a list of available windows when you hover/right-click the relevant icon? (I haven't used Unity a lot, just remember from trying it out when it was new).
[16:13] <bl4ckcomb`> maximm, there is a settings manager for nvidia in apt
[16:13] <maximm> yeah i have it
[16:13] <rpk> usr13, ActionParsnip: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1593268
[16:13] <maximm> my monitor is enabled
[16:13] <rpk> both of those detail my issue exactly
[16:13] <Liiin> Can the ROOT block an user to set "OTHER USERS" PERMISSION ?
[16:13] <maximm> just no menu or window decorator
[16:13] <sdegutis> /me cant do actions yet :(
[16:13] <shane4ubuntu1> ok, getting more used to unity, when an app is full screen how to I move it to my other screen?
[16:13] <Liiin> I mean example 770 660
[16:13] <Liiin> ALWAYS 0 at the end
[16:13] <dennda> ActionParsnip: altho that feature is kind of buggy i have the feeling
[16:13] <ActionParsnip> rpk: then add the ppa in /etc/apt/sources.list    then manually import the key
[16:13] <Liiin> is it possible?
[16:13] <NyvenZA> ok, I have now tried to install lightdm as a replacement for gdm and when I start it, i just get a black screen
[16:13] <bl4ckcomb`> maximm, do you use some kind of desktop composition?
[16:13] <rpk> noteventime: no, thats what i wish it did
[16:14] <NyvenZA> I then stopped lightdm again and just ran startx
[16:14] <ActionParsnip> dennda: not sure, could log it
[16:14] <maximm> compiz
[16:14] <chadi> is it safe to kill ubiquity?
[16:14] <Dr_Willis> shane4ubuntu1:  the ombubuntu blog site has a wallpaper image listing the shortcuts
[16:14] <rpk> ActionParsnip: I can't do that for every ppa all day long.  Thats why I want to just disable gpg
[16:14] <shane4ubuntu1> also on pidgin I have no scroll bar to scroll down on this thing, or up.
[16:14] <NyvenZA> I get the desktop icons appearing and the mouse, but no menus, side bar and rightclick mensues
[16:14] <Dr_Willis> shane4ubuntu1:  look closely.. the scroll bar sort of auto-hide in a lot of apps now
[16:14] <bl4ckcomb`> maximm, maybe you should recheck your xorg configuration or read your messages log for compiz errors
[16:16] <ActionParsnip> rpk: if you go to the ppa page, you'll see the key and you can copy / paste the text to a file then run:  sudo apt-key add file
[16:16] <usr13> rpk: Did you do as ActionParsnip said and add the config line appropriately?
[16:16] <maximm> yeah will do some digging thnx
[16:16] <rpk> ActionParsnip: invalid gpg keys letting malicious software be installed isn't a real world problem
[16:16] <shane4ubuntu1> Dr_Willis: I'm sorry, not another desktop, I have dual screen and want to drag it over to the other screen
[16:16] <rpk> usr13: yeah
[16:16] <chadi> Please help me guys, I am stuck in the middle of the installation :/
[16:16] <ActionParsnip> rpk: well you have a workaround til it gets sorted
[16:16] <rpk> usr13: it was already there, apt-add-repository doesn't respect that setting
[16:16] <NyvenZA> when I try and click on an icon and trag it, the mouse Icon changes to a drag icon, but nothing actaully happens to the icons ont he desktop
[16:16] <Dr_Willis> shane4ubuntu1:  if full screened. they are proberly locked. you would need to un-max them  Perhaps a compiz keybinding coulkd do it without unmaxing them first
[16:16] <rpk> ActionParsnip: its been open since early 9.04 builds
[16:16] <ActionParsnip> chadi: if it hasn't finished then you will have half an OS
[16:16] <mtlife> why is there a debian splash screen in grub AND in gdm when i upgraded to 11.04?
[16:16] <ActionParsnip> rpk: yikes
[16:16] <rpk> ActionParsnip: I had the same problem in 10.10
[16:16] <shane4ubuntu1> Dr_Willis: as for the scroll bar, right, but in pidgin it just doesn't exist, when I scroll over to where it should be and get the arrows, there aren't any.
[16:16] <shane4ubuntu1> Dr_Willis: thanks.
[16:16] <CoolCoder> hi. I have upgraded my system to ubunto 11.x (new version .) I need to use the old theme of 10.x .what should i do? because there is no taskbar and all in new version. so i am feeling unconfortable to find the programs
[16:16] <Liiin> ??
[16:16] <Dr_Willis> shane4ubuntu1:  i dont use pidgin. so no idea. :) could be a bug.
[16:16] <ActionParsnip> rpk: glad I stopped using a proxy
[16:16] <gtklocker> https://twitter.com/#!/gtklocker/status/63692581170716672 RT if you like it >.<
[16:16] <maximm> coolcoder use classic mode
[16:16] <ActionParsnip> shane4ubuntu1: on the buddy list window or the channel window?
[16:16] <rpk> ActionParsnip: yeah, I'm at work unfortunately.
[16:16] <CoolCoder> where do i get this?
[16:16] <maximm> change it at the login screen
[16:16] <Dr_Willis> !classic
[16:16] <shane4ubuntu1> Dr_Willis: for the full screen app, I was hoping to get around that, but thanks, also for the pidgin thanks anyway.
[16:16] <Dr_Willis> sounds like we need a new faq factoid. :)
[16:16] <DasEi> CoolCoder: switch back to gnome
[16:17] <shane4ubuntu1> ActionParsnip: for the channel window
[16:17] <serene> !classic
[16:17] <CoolCoder> DasEi:any help?
[16:17] <DasEi> CoolCoder: : under powerbutton > set default session > gnome-classic
[16:17] <DasEi> CoolCoder: : then re-login
[16:17] <ActionParsnip> shane4ubuntu1: yeah I've got one on the main window as well as the user list
[16:17] <Dr_Willis> DasEi:  heh.. never noticed that.. looking now.
[16:17] <shane4ubuntu1> after about a day of using Unity, and breaking it twice, I'm getting more accustomed to it.
[16:17] <ActionParsnip> shane4ubuntu1: i'm using uity though
[16:18] <shane4ubuntu1> ActionParsnip: yeah, I'm on unity too
[16:18] <ActionParsnip> rpk: i see, then all I can suggest is use the workaround
[16:18] <Dr_Willis> bbl
[16:18] <usr13> rpk: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/software-properties/+bug/516032
[16:18] <shane4ubuntu1> ActionParsnip: when I go over the users, a scroll bar (arrows) pop up, but not so for the channel window.
[16:18] <CoolCoder> DasEi: under power button there is no such option.
[16:19] <Asad2005> alltray firefox doesnot show atray icon in natty. Any idea?
[16:19] <shane4ubuntu1> ActionParsnip: ahh, found it, on the users list, it is only towards the top, and the channel list only towards the bottom on the left hand side of both they appear.
[16:19] <ActionParsnip> shane4ubuntu1: nice
[16:19] <shane4ubuntu1> ActionParsnip: odd, but they are there, thanks.
[16:20] <rpk> usr13: They didn't previously verify the gpg keys
[16:20] <rpk> usr13: you could bypass the invalid keys by default, so it wasn't a problem
[16:20] <rpk> usr13: it no longer responds to the --allow-unauthenticated switch though
[16:20] <koichirose> Hello, I just upgraded to Ubuntu 11.04 and many firefox icons don't show up anymore, including the back button, stop button and the firefox icon itself (!). How do I fix it? I already tried to reset to default toolbars
[16:20] <DasEi> CoolCoder: : right top, there should be a symbol to power down..
[16:20] <NyvenZA> does unity REQUIRE 3d >
[16:21] <DasEi> CoolCoder: : ..systemsettings, loginscreen
[16:21] <ActionParsnip> NyvenZA: yes
[16:21] <NyvenZA> ah
[16:21] <CoolCoder> k
[16:21] <NyvenZA> that might be my problem then
[16:21] <ninjai> some applications (eclipse, libre office) still have the menu items on the windows instead of the top panel.  What gives?
[16:21] <ChogyDan> koichirose: do you have all the toolbars enabled?
[16:21] <ActionParsnip> koichirose: set a new theme and it should be ok
[16:21] <NyvenZA> is there a 2d version or something I can do to make it work on older hardware >
[16:21] <mtlife> where can i change gdm theme in ubuntu 11.04?
[16:21] <koichirose> ChogyDan, yes. I see empty buttons.
[16:21] <rpk> How did they release unity with so many high priority bugs open?
[16:22] <koichirose> ActionParsnip, a new ubuntu theme you mean? But I like my human ^^
[16:22] <Skei> Hey everyone. I've just upgraded to 11.04, and when I boot, my screen just stays black. I'm now under an earlier kernel which seems to work, but I got an error saying I didn't have the hardware to run Unity, and I should select something else. Any ideas ?
[16:22] <usr13> rpk: Are you looking at post#15 ?
[16:22] <rpk> Every problem I have with it returns a launchpad bug listed as high priority, but still open
[16:22] <CoolCoder> DasEi: Its locked. dont know why, and i am the admin
[16:22] <CoolCoder> DasEi: ok ok
[16:22] <CoolCoder> sorry
[16:22] <NyvenZA> Skei: i also seem to have this problem
[16:22] <somethinginteres> Skei: do you have the hardware to run it?
[16:22] <ActionParsnip> koichirose: no, the issue is with firefox, so you need a firefox theme.If you keep to the context of the question, that would have been clear
[16:22] <NyvenZA> still looking for a solution
[16:22] <DasEi> CoolCoder: : :)
[16:23] <rpk> usr13: thats actually already been fixed by default, in 10.10 I believe
[16:23] <ActionParsnip> NyvenZA: what video chip are you using?
[16:23] <Skei> somethinginteres, I assume so. i5, GTX 560, 8 GB RAM. It's a new box.
[16:23] <NyvenZA> nvidia 8300
[16:23] <Skei> NyvenZA, are you running under an older kernel for now, then ?
[16:23] <elxordi> hi, can someone help my with a graphics issue on my ubuntu 11.04?
[16:23] <rpk> (I've gone through like 5 different bug reports, and tried almost all of the suggestions for config hacks.  Newer reports for more recent versions just don't get replied to)
[16:23] <ActionParsnip> Skei: http://idyllictux.wordpress.com/2010/04/26/lucidubuntu-10-04-high-resolution-plymouth-virtual-terminal-for-atinvidia-cards-with-proprietaryrestricted-driver/
[16:23] <nanovany> ya se pudo activar unity de nuevo!! :D graias
[16:23] <mtlife> where can i change gdm theme in ubuntu 11.04?
[16:23] <somethinginteres> Skei: hmm you should post in  #ayanta as well
[16:23] <usr13> rpk: How about post#9  ?
[16:24] <ActionParsnip> NyvenZA: install nvidia-current and it will be fine after a reboot
[16:24] <agonzalez> Hi everyone, I am here to find help with my NVIDIA GT330M, I installed the latest driver (270.46) now the X does not work
[16:24] <NyvenZA> Skei: I tried it, but then X didn't even start
[16:24] <Osmodivs> Why can't I upgrade to 11.04 from terminal? I am typing the right commands: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[16:24] <ActionParsnip> agonzalez: try:  sudo nvidia-xconfig    andreboot
[16:24] <Osmodivs> Am i missig somethig?
[16:24] <ChogyDan> Osmodivs: it is: sudo do-release-upgrade
[16:24] <ActionParsnip> Osmodivs: yes thats not the command
[16:24] <Osmodivs> Oh, thank you
[16:24] <Osmodivs> my bad
[16:24] <usr13> Osmodivs: sudo apt-get update ; sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[16:25] <NyvenZA> i  installed the nvidia 270.41.06 and also seem to have issues
[16:25] <agonzalez> i already tried that, the same thing happened with Ubuntu 10.10
[16:25] <spacebug-> is there a way to change the default keybindings for unity? (if they conflic with my own)
[16:25] <Osmodivs> usr13, They say that's NOT the right command
[16:25] <Skei> NyvenZA, those are the drivers I need, too.
[16:25] <usr13> Osmodivs: What command?
[16:25] <ActionParsnip> NyvenZA: then try: nvidia-173
[16:25] <Skei> ActionParsnip, NyvenZA, trying nvidia-current, will let you know.
[16:26] <NyvenZA> ActionParsnip: Actually I have a 7300 not 8300
[16:26] <varun> shane4ubuntu1:
[16:26] <Osmodivs> usr13, dist-upgrade, it's do-release-upgrade
[16:26] <katorz> hi. How can I do to have the Unity interface ?
[16:26] <NyvenZA> ActionParsnip: whre can I get that ?
[16:26] <ActionParsnip> NyvenZA: try: sudo apt-get install nvidia-173    may help
[16:26] <DasEi> agonzalez: logout to terminal, try to run : sudo nvidia-xconfig, restart gdm (sudo service gdm restart)
[16:26] <NyvenZA> ok
[16:26] <elxordi> katorz: sudo apt-get install unity
[16:26] <lucas-arg> im having problems during boot... ubuntu 11.04 gives me some irq problem and then cap locks keeps blinking and ubuntu wont boot... i have to reboot 2-3 times to make it boot... what would be the problem?
[16:26] <katorz> elxordi: I'm on a live usb persistant
[16:26] <Osmodivs> E: Invalid operation do-release-upgrade
[16:27] <Osmodivs> What?!
[16:27] <Rigorm0rtis> Hello. I'm having some trouble with Thunderbird and Unity. I can't access the main menu for the application. Any know what's going on?
[16:27] <NyvenZA> ok dl'ing
[16:27] <Sylphid> Osmodivs, sudo apt-get install update-manager-core && sudo do-release-upgrade
[16:27] <ActionParsnip> !upgrade | Osmodivs
[16:27] <gnychis> how can I enable Unity in the Preferences or Administration?
[16:27] <ActionParsnip> Osmodivs: instead of trying to guess, why not read the upgrade documentation
[16:27] <elxordi> katorz: which ubuntu version?
[16:27] <NyvenZA> ActionParsnip: how will I force that driver to be used?
[16:27] <ActionParsnip> NyvenZA: udev will make it so
[16:27] <katorz> elxordi: the 11.04
[16:27] <DasEi> lucas-arg: seems kernelpanic, check your bios setting an rebuild intramfs
[16:28] <usr13> rpk: Server may simply be flooded atm  This is probably not the best time...
[16:28] <lucas-arg> DasEi: what am i supposed to look in my bios? its all in defaults...
[16:28] <NyvenZA> so i must make sure it is corect there before reboot?
[16:28] <elxordi> katorz: on live, there's already the unity interface activated, if it doesn't show up, maybe the problem is that your graphic doesnt have the correct drivers on live
[16:28] <lucas-arg> DasEi: it was working all ok until last kernel upgrade
[16:28] <vibhav> anybody with any problem?
[16:28] <Osmodivs> ActionParsnip, I want to use the terminal to see what's happenning, otherwise I could just use the Update Manager GUI
[16:29] <rpk> usr13: Its only with non standard ppas, because the default ones come with signatures included. Its just ridiculous that this hasn't been fixed yet, and that people are just ignoring ubuntu forum posts about it
[16:29] <usr13> Osmodivs: Ok, well, they both prolly work still
[16:29] <elxordi> vibhav: me, graphic issue. Interested? :P
[16:29] <Monotoko> urm...whos Vera?
[16:29] <ActionParsnip> Osmodivs: there is the server method listed, use that
 Yeah
[16:29] <evilsushi> is there a alternative cd download for ubuntu 11.04?
[16:29] <DasEi> lucas-arg: make sure you can access grub's menu, and cd into boot and do : sudo updateinitramfs -u of your current kernel
[16:29] <ActionParsnip> !download
[16:29] <katorz> elxordi: I tried to install nvidia drivers but there's nothing
 Yes
[16:30] <ChogyDan> Osmodivs: do you have update-manager-core installed?
[16:30] <Osmodivs> ActionParsnip, Server!? I do not have a server
[16:30] <evilsushi> does it offer the lvm encryption such as previous alternate installs?
[16:30] <mtlife> where can i change gdm theme in ubuntu 11.04?
 Whats your problem??
[16:30] <elxordi> vibhav: i've runned glxgears, and gives me good framerate, but graphics arent smoother. That's with latest Ati drivers. any ideas?
[16:30] <NyvenZA> ActionParsnip: ok, now I get a login screen at least
[16:30] <ActionParsnip> Osmodivs: yes but the server method uses cli as that is all it has, no x server
[16:30] <ChogyDan> Osmodivs: or ubuntu-standard
 lemme see
[16:30] <lucas-arg> DasEi: ive done it... sudo update-initramfs -u && sudo update-grub && sudo grub-install /dev/sda
[16:30] <DeadmanIncJS> is this a general chat for ubuntu or just for tech support type stuff
[16:30] <elxordi> katorz: if you install them live and you restart, the canges doesnt apply. You must install ubuntu on hard disk
[16:30] <oussama> list
[16:30] <ActionParsnip> Osmodivs: sudo apt-get install update-manager-core; sudo do-release-upgrade
[16:31] <SoftTimur> Hello all, does anyone know how to tile windows under ubuntu 11.04? for instance, place a window on the left or right half of the screen...?
[16:31] <Pici> DeadmanIncJS: Just tech support. General chat in #ubuntu-offtopic
[16:31] <elxordi> vibhav: i've googled for a while and found nothing :(
[16:31] <Skei> ActionParsnip, installing nvidia-current allowed me to boot into my new kernel. Thanks very much.
[16:31] <ActionParsnip> Osmodivs: copied and pasted from: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NattyUpgrades
[16:31] <DeadmanIncJS> k, thanks buddy
[16:31] <usr13> DeadmanIncJS: Tech support.  General chat is on #ubuntu-offtopic
[16:31] <evilsushi> DeadmanIncJS: #ubuntu-offtopic
[16:31] <ActionParsnip> Skei: coolio
[16:31] <Skei> ActionParsnip, now I need to install the dev drivers instead, and see if it holds out :P
[16:31] <ActionParsnip> Skei: your call, gl
[16:31] <Skei> Also going to switch back to Classic Desktop, I think...
[16:31] <DasEi> lucas-arg:good aproch, maybe enable grub's beep and have a loonger timeout, so you can easy use an older kernel, case problem resists
[16:31] <rpk> Also, does anyone know if they fixed the ubi-partman installer bug?  My dad couldn't even install on x64 last night.
[16:31] <katorz> elxordi: but there's no driver
[16:32] <katorz> I can't try to instal them
[16:32] <Osmodivs> ChogyDan, I dunno, but I typed  apt-get install update-manager-core && sudo do-release-upgrade, but it is just upgrading Python 3.1
[16:32] <lucas-arg> DasEi: ill try downgrading the kernel then...
[16:32] <ActionParsnip> rpk: did you MD5 test the ISO you downloaded?
[16:32] <DasEi> lucas-arg:(/etc/default/grub)
[16:32] <DasEi> lucas-arg :  (/etc/default/grub) *
[16:32] <elxordi> katorz: what graphics device has your computer?
[16:32] <rpk> ActionParsnip: yep, also ran the test cd for defects from the cd itself
[16:32] <gmitrev> hi guys, anyone has any idea why my network applet is missing after the update?
[16:32] <ActionParsnip> rpk: and memory test?
[16:32] <lucas-arg> DasEi: all there is default also...
 http://paste.ubuntu.com/600825/
[16:32] <ChogyDan> Osmodivs: I dunno, pastebin?
[16:32] <rpk> ActionParsnip: yeah.
[16:33] <vibhav> whats your problem chadi?
[16:33] <rpk> Its great that they want to release every 6 months, but someone should really introduce them to the idea of tested configurations and blockers
[16:33] <dennda> Is it me or does unity totally fuck up with gvim?
[16:33] <katorz> elxordi: a 8400 gs nvidia card
[16:33] <ActionParsnip> rpk: in the livecd, update the gparted and ubiquity packaes from the repos, may help
[16:33] <arrow203> Good morning, I just did an online, inplace upgrade of 10.10 last night to 11.04.  Now, on first boot, I receive an error and it hangs - udevd-work[90]: '/sbin/modprobe -bv pci:v000010DEd000001D7sv00001179sd0000FF31bc03sc00i00' unexpected exit with status 0x0009
 WATCH YOUR LANGUAGE!
[16:33] <Renski> having an issue with my netbook which has ubuntu 10.10 installed on it. everytime I run ifconfig wlan0 down the entire machine locks up
[16:33] <DasEi> lucas-arg :  beep and longer timeout can make choosing other kernel easier,case ongoing panics
[16:33] <chadi> vibhav: I killed ubiquity, and restarted it; it's fine now - thank you for asking
[16:33] <dennda> vibhav: STOP SCREAMING!
[16:34] <lucas-arg> DasEi: weird bug
[16:34] <rpk> ActionParsnip: so boot into the livecd and try updating packages before running the installer?  i'll have him try that later tonight then
[16:34] <arrow203> my guess is there's some sort of driver issue due to the modprobe - forgive me, I'm not especially familiar with Linux... advice?
[16:34] <elxordi> vibhav: cool, i can understand now. anyway, with the 11:04 update, all system has not smooth graphics... either with radeon driver
[16:34] <DasEi> lucas-arg :  not occuring in my vm
[16:34] <elxordi> katorz: wait a second, please
 Ok
[16:34] <ActionParsnip> rpk: yeah it may solve bugs and such
[16:35] <elxordi> vibhav: so, if that happened to you, what would you do?
 Leave it as it is.....As i know the graphic capabilities of my card.
[16:36] <lucas-arg> DasEi: i installed a 64bits version of ubuntu and now i have a 32bits kernel instead???? how can i see what my ubuntu version is??
[16:36] <evilsushi> how hard is it going to be to upgrade from 10.10 to 11.04?
[16:36] <elxordi> vibhav: well, that f*** me a little, because with previous ubuntu my card was great
[16:36] <compdoc> can be easy, but sometimes it blows up
 I recommend a fresh install
[16:36] <DasEi> lucas-arg :  ups, uname -a and lsb_release -a
[16:36] <dennda> Also there is some considerable lag in unity, e.g. in vim and terminal starts behaving laggish as well
[16:36] <evilsushi> yeah thats not an option
 ohh.
[16:36] <sipior> evilsushi: an upgrade is very straightforward.
[16:37] <rpk> ActionParsnip: There are open bugs for the exact issue, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/757720
[16:37] <dennda> but in vim it is not at all funny
[16:37] <Vhozard> is Landscape commercial ?
[16:37] <Pici> Vhozard: Yes.
 A liitle prob in the upgrade can screw the whole system
[16:37] <Vhozard> anything like it thats free ?
[16:37] <evilsushi> does 11.04 have a LTS?
[16:37] <vibhav> Hi Pici
[16:37] <arrow203> anyone?  re: modprobe crash above?
[16:37] <xangua> evilsushi: no
 no
[16:37] <Pici> evilsushi: No. 12.04 will be the next LTS
[16:37] <elxordi> katorz: tell me what happens, from the point you choose "Try ubuntu without install", until the point the desktop is loaded, please
[16:37] <vibhav> Hi Pici
[16:37] <DasEi> evilsushi: no, lucid is lts
[16:37] <evilsushi> every 2 years
[16:37] <rpk> How is that rated medium?  Its an install failure.  You can't even install ubuntu due to the error. :/
[16:37] <DasEi> !lts
[16:38] <Pici> dennda: I find unity to be not compatible with the way I work. You can still choose Classic Ubuntu from GDM.
[16:38] <lucas-arg> DasEi: it says i686... im sure i had 64bits installed...
[16:38] <Pici> vibhav: hi
[16:38] <ActionParsnip> rpk: maybe updates will help
[16:39] <Nastya> hi there!
[16:39] <The-Stinger> Updated 10.10 to 11.04. But now I don't have any sound in Minecraft.
[16:39] <fsvieira> hello, I just installed the last ubuntu, and I would like to install a session manager to choose betewn gnome and unity, I installed gnome and gdm but there is no choice in login...how can I solve this ?
[16:39] <DasEi> lucas-arg :  cat /proc/version another place to look
[16:39] <wizards> i install gnome3 but ... unity and gnome3 for me ist very similar  :( its devil dream
[16:40] <xangua> fsvieira: select 'classic' session
[16:40] <rpk> ActionParsnip: yeah.  Oh, and sorry about raging in general.  If it isn't obvious already, I develop software for a living, and I can't stand to see such poor QA in such a core open source project
[16:40] <DasEi> fsvieira: it's undeer the powerbutton > systemsettings > loginscreen
[16:40] <lucas-arg> DasEi: Linux version 2.6.38-8-generic (buildd@vernadsky) (gcc version 4.5.2 (Ubuntu/Linaro 4.5.2-8ubuntu3) ) #42-Ubuntu SMP Mon Apr 11 03:31:50 UTC 2011
[16:40] <ActionParsnip> rpk: no worries dude :)
[16:40] <xangua> !gnome3 | wizards
[16:40] <wizards> :D nice bot :D
[16:40] <jdahm> can I create a dock "launcher" entry for applications that don't show up under "applications"?
[16:40] <katorz> elxordi: I have a x64 ubuntu. So nothing special, I just installed pidgin to chat. There was no boot screen (the one with my name). I landed directly on the desktop.
[16:40] <DasEi> lucas-arg :  32 then
[16:40] <gtklocker> lol
[16:41] <dennda> Pici: Yes, the thing is I want to use unity
[16:41] <lucas-arg> DasEi: weird... i might be confused... ill try installing -pae then
[16:41] <dennda> To get familiar with it
[16:41] <fsvieira> ok I will try
[16:41] <Pici> dennda: Good luck then :)
[16:41] <gtklocker> Unity is awesome
[16:41] <elxordi> katorz: and the desktop, i supose, is the default gnome desktop... isnt it?
[16:41] <NyvenZA> ok, now I am just get frustrated. i installed lightdm, and now I can get to the login screen. I can select sessions and I have tried classic, Classic (no effects) and ubuntu recovery and all of them boots Unity and I can't do see anything change in the X sessions..
[16:41] <katorz> elxordi: yes exactly
[16:41] <jacobson> Hey, I upgraded from 10.10 to 11.04 beta 2 before the release of the 11.04, and now i'm wondering if is there a way to upgrade from 11.04 beta2 to 11.04 stable
[16:41] <jacobson> thank
[16:41] <jacobson> s
[16:42] <NyvenZA> I can click on an icon and drag it, but the icons stats on the screen
[16:42] <incog> how would you fags feel if i told you i can crash all ubuntu versions, including natty with a remote string
[16:42] <NyvenZA> if i restart the session, the icon has moved to where i dragged it too
[16:42] <elxordi> katorz: have you considered intalling it? maybe from the live doesnt let you to install any nvidia drivers knowing you must reboot
[16:42] <Atluxity_> mighty impressed incog
[16:42] <gtklocker> https://twitter.com/#!/gtklocker/status/63692581170716672 Ubuntu custom kernel compilation (my article)
[16:42] <compdoc> jacobson, I would think apt-get would see the released version as a new update
[16:42] <incog> not really, apt is just that bad
 Do it! and send me the string
[16:42] <adelie42> I am using gnome-shell. When I search for applications, specific applications are listed. How do I add an app (custom script) to that index?
[16:43] <adelie42> tried putting it in /bin and restarted session, but that didn't help
[16:44] <Atluxity_> I have a bug with my newly upgraded ubuntu. I started xchat, unmaximised it, right click, sendt to workspace 4. Now my xchat has no minimize button or close cross or unmaximize button at the top :\
[16:44] <gmitrev> hi guys, anyone has any idea why my network applet is missing after the update? It connects just fine but there is no indicator applet for it?
[16:44] <vibhav> do it incog
[16:44] <katorz> elxordi: yes but I did a live usb persistant to test unity because I have to install graphic drivers and to reboot. Impossible without a live usb persistant.
[16:44] <karlo> what is command for logout ?
[16:45] <jdahm> I have some applications that aren't installed through apt that I would like to inclue in my dock on unity.  Can I add them?  How do I add them?
[16:45] <elxordi> katorz: maybe a better way to test that is with virtualbox
[16:45] <katorz> elxordi: I prefer to wait several days to upgrade to the 11.04 version.
[16:45] <DasEi> karlo: depends, out of gdm ? or logout from what ?
[16:45] <elxordi> katorz: i agree with you. i've updated right now and i'm kinda f**** lol
[16:46] <katorz> elxordi: yes, the last solution... did you install th 11.04?
[16:46] <karlo> from computer
[16:46] <vibhav> any body with a problem??
[16:46] <ActionParsnip> jdahm: make a launcher for it then drag the launcher to the dock
[16:46] <DasEi> karlo: logout or exit or ctrl-D
[16:46] <gmitrev> anyone has any idea why my network applet is missing after the update? It connects just fine but there is no indicator applet for it?
[16:46] <katorz> elxordi: what's the problem with your ubuntu ?
[16:46] <jdahm> ActionParsnip: how do you make a launcher?
[16:47] <adelie42> ActionParsnip: How do you make a launcher in gnome-shell?
[16:47] <ActionParsnip> jdahm: use alacarte or right click desktop
[16:47] <adelie42> ActionParsnip: Or unity for that matter?
[16:47] <karlo> DasEi, not working, I tryed that in past :/
[16:47] <elxordi> katorz: well, everything works. But graphics performance doesnt work much great. Not smooth.
[16:47] <Younder> Yes, seems safe mode works. But with the NVidea proprietary driver .nothing works. Not entirely sure it it is just me and that I have the right diagnosis yet..
[16:47] <DasEi> karlo: you want to shutdown from commandline ?
[16:47] <ActionParsnip> adelie42: same method, use alacarte
[16:47] <lacrymology> how do I find out what video drivers am I using?
[16:47] <lacrymology> and how do I change my screen resolution?
[16:47] <ActionParsnip> lacrymology: sudo lshw -C display
[16:48] <karlo> DasEi, no, I wanna logout user from ubuntu
[16:48] <DasEi> karlo: sudo shutdown -h now, or sudo service gdm stop to just get to the commandline
[16:48] <cablop> hello
[16:48] <cablop> i need a suggestion in a software to detect Wireless Networks and the channel they're using, not kismet, kismet is more than what i need, i just need to know, available networks, channels in use and signal strenght, just to help in choosing the wireless channel of a wlan
[16:48] <The-Stinger> dont have any sound in Minecrafter after updating 11.04. Anyone know a sollution?
[16:48] <adelie42> ActionParsnip: THANK YOU!!!!
[16:48] <DasEi> karlo: sudo logout >userHere>
[16:48] <karlo> DasEi, tnx
[16:48] <Sylphid> cablop, iwlist
  refer to http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-fix-network-manager-applet-missing-from-notification-area-in-ubuntu-10-04.html
[16:48] <ActionParsnip> cablop: sudo iwlist scan     will show all that
[16:48] <lacrymology> ActionParsnip: driver=nvidia means I'm using the propietary driver, right?
[16:48] <ActionParsnip> lacrymology: yes
[16:49] <ActionParsnip> lacrymology: the open drivers are nv and nouveau
[16:49] <cablop> let me try
[16:49] <NyvenZA> ok, I want to try and remove unity totally and see if I can can info X properly
[16:49] <NyvenZA> what woul be the best way to remove unity?
[16:49] <cablop> Sylphid, ActionParsnip will i lost wlan connectivity with that command?
[16:49] <Sylphid> cablop, nope
[16:49] <katorz> elxordi: In my mind, I'll wait at least a month before to install it lol. Thank you for your help. ;-)
[16:50] <elxordi> katorz: You're welcome. I'm sorry i couldn't help you much more. But i hate graphic drivers on ubuntu lol
[16:50] <cablop> Sylphid, ActionParsnip thanks a lot
[16:51] <katorz> lol
[16:51] <lacrymology> good, then, how do I change the resolution? when I open System/Preferences/Monitors it complains that "it appears that your graphics driver does not support the necessary extensions to use this tool. Do you want to use your graphics vendor's tool instead?" and if I click 'yes' I don't find anything to change the resolution
[16:51] <cablop> is there any gui for that? i can use this, but barely i can ask others to use CLI
[16:51] <lacrymology> oh wait
[16:51] <lacrymology> found it
[16:52] <elxordi> my graphics arent smooth with ubuntu 11.04, and they where on 10.10, with ATI latest driver. Why's that???
[16:52] <areay> just upgraded to natty, but i have no unity -- my desktop hasn't changed at all
[16:52] <Kouta-kun>  i upgraded to natty and my install broke so much i'm switching distros
[16:52] <Doonz> hey guys im using rsync to copy data from one raid array to the other. When i run rsync a 2nd time it retransfers all the files. how do i make rsync stop doing that
[16:52] <Doonz> im just using the -vr options
[16:52] <chadi> I highly dislike unity. It's not even optimized for touch screens! Can I not use it?
[16:52] <DirtyDawg> Kouta-kun: to which distro?
[16:52] <jdahm> ActionParsnip: ok I added it in alacarte
[16:52] <elxordi> areay: try intalling it with sudo apt-get install unity
[16:53] <cablop> any GUI tool able to scan Wireless Networks giving me signal strenght, channel in use, and the like? (iwscan is ok for me, but...)
[16:53] <jdahm> ActionParsnip: it's still not in the applications menu in unity
[16:53] <chadi> areay: video drivers
[16:53] <KNUBBIG> Hey, I remember someone asked that already today but I didn't get the solution: When I click "Shutdown" in 11.04, it just simply logs me out instead of really shutting down, but "sudo shutdown -h now" works fine. Any ideas or do I have to search the log?
 "Wifi Radar" in Ubuntu Software Center
[16:53] <areay> chadi: afaik my video drivers are installed and working correctly. i didn't get a message to say unity wouldn't work
[16:54] <ActionParsnip> jdahm: when you run it, right click the app and select "Keep in launcher"
[16:54] <cablop> vibhav: giving it a look
 GL
[16:54] <spungo> is there a mini iso for 11.04 available? I can only find 10.10
[16:54] <oussama> there a CD iso
 on cd and dvd iso
[16:55] <oussama> about 650 Mo
[16:55] <areay> chadi: also pressing alt+f2 and running unity produces something but it's totally unusable
[16:55] <areay> and i have to hide my gnome panel to see it
[16:55] <venik> cannot upgrade to 11.04-- "Could not calculate the upgrade"...
[16:55] <qkit> hi guys, wonder what package i needed to install so i can connect to my windows xp share folder?
[16:55] <yuskhanzab> hello all. need help here how to undo the "complete lock panel" in ubuntu after updating to natty?
[16:56] <venik> this bug has been there for 5 years...
[16:56] <elxordi> qkit: samba packages
[16:56] <venik> AMD64
[16:56] <ActionParsnip> venik: do you have "ubuntu-desktop" package installed/
[16:56] <jen> helo ?
[16:56] <venik> it worked fine on another machine (32 bit)
[16:56] <elxordi> qkit: and then, on nautilus, press ctrl+l and write smb://
[16:56] <venik> I removed Ubuntu-desktop
[16:57] <chadi> areay: then I am sorry, I do not know
[16:57] <venik> made no difference
[16:57] <perlsyntax> Has anyone have prob with install ubuntu 11.04?And seem like it take longer then ubuntu 10.10 not sure why.
[16:57] <Liiin> umash and chmod works in the same manner?
[16:57] <yuskhanzab> hello all. need help here how to undo the "complete lock panel" in ubuntu after updating to natty?
[16:57] <ChogyDan> venik: please don't use enter as punctuation
[16:57] <Liiin> *umask
[16:57] <areay> i just upgraded to natty and i don't have an option to use unity. pressing alt+f2 and running unity brings up an unusable unity, i can see menus but they do nothing
[16:57] <KNUBBIG> Hey, I remember someone asked that already today but I didn't get the solution: When I click "Shutdown" in 11.04, it just simply logs me out instead of really shutting down, but "sudo shutdown -h now" works fine. Any ideas?
[16:57] <elxordi> areay: another option is ckeck if unity is activated on compiz settings
[16:57] <calrik> well my ubuntu 110.04 just finished downloading and upgrading, just about to reboot wish me luck there are no hiccup
[16:58] <spungo> Found it >> http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/natty/main/installer-i386/current/images/netboot/mini.iso
 tried?
[16:58] <areay> elxordi: i don't appear to have a unity plugin in compiz. is there a package for that?
[16:58] <cablop> vibhav: thanks, i think it is good enough, we can go iwlist when wanted more detail :)
[16:58] <perlsyntax> calrik,How ong does it tke to install it?
[16:58] <qkit> thanks guys
[16:59] <ActionParsnip> venik: that's why then, you need the metapackage to be able to update
 your graphic card must not be supporting it, but you can install its 2d version.
[16:59] <elxordi> yeah, but is dependency with unity package, so if it's installed, the option must be on compiz settings
[16:59] <greylurk> Ah, Unity is much better with the up-to date Nvidia drivers.
[16:59] <areay> vibhav, i've heard others reporting that they see a message that tells them unity is unsupported. i have seen nothing like this
[16:59] <elxordi> areay: yeah, but is dependency with unity package, so if it's installed, the option must be on compiz settings
[16:59] <venik> I removed the ubuntu-desktop AFTER the upgrade failed, because someone suggested that it might help
 what does your error say?
[17:00] <BinaryMan> is there something wrong with all of the 64-bit natty iso images?
[17:00] <venik> perhaps I should reinstall ubuntu-desktop (and face Mecca)
[17:00] <ActionParsnip> venik: i see, i believe it's needed so the updater knows what is going on
[17:00] <areay> vibhav, i get no error at all. i have no option to use unity as an interface. also running unity inside of gnome produces ugly results
[17:00] <BinaryMan> i've tried the same image from two different mirrors, burned it with two different machines, and the CD dies when trying to load the initrd
[17:01] <venik> it cannot be the explanation, since in all my first attempts the ubuntu-desktop was there
[17:01] <greylurk> BinaryMan I installed from Natty 64 bit image last night.  Worked ok, except for some partionioning confusion.
[17:01] <elxordi> my graphics arent smooth with ubuntu 11.04, and they where on 10.10, with ATI latest driver. anyone can help me to solve it?
[17:01] <jdahm> ActionParsnip: seems to not work for this app
[17:01] <areay> elxordi, unity is installed, but searching for 'unity' in compizconfig returns no results
[17:01] <BinaryMan> i can't get it to _boot)
[17:01] <BinaryMan> *_boot_
[17:01] <ActionParsnip> jdahm: strange
[17:01] <BinaryMan> i even had another guy burn the image with his computer.
[17:01] <jdahm> ActionParsnip: when I click on the icon I made, it pulses for a second and then nothing shows up and it stops pulsing
[17:01] <ChogyDan> venik: wait, do you have ubuntu-desktop?  and did you try to login with unity?
[17:01] <venik> I upgraded for the past 4 or 5 versions, with no need for clean installation, but now I probably reached the end of the line
[17:02] <exfileme> ugg ubuntu reminds me of windows 95
 post me a screenshot of that....
[17:02] <NyvenZA> how can I see all the versions of the nvidia drivers that are installed?
[17:02] <NyvenZA> is ther an apt-get command for that?
[17:02] <mikebeecham> guys, how do I access the 11.04 grub menu from bootup?
[17:02] <jdahm> exfileme: umm? how so?
[17:02] <venik> the upgrade never finished-- I got the error message mentioned above (COuld not calculate the upgrade)
[17:02] <SeRVeR01> hello there , when i play any game under wine  can't get rid of the top title bar any ideas  ? thanks
[17:02] <ChogyDan> venik: try installing ubuntu-desktop
[17:02] <elxordi> areay: wait, please, i'll check
[17:03] <Skei> ActionParsnip, got it working now, thank you.
[17:03] <exfileme> i upgraded to the new version and all of a sudden the Nvidia driver don't want to work. Strangely enough, the new update works better on the experimental 3D drivers save for that the icons dont appear in the Launcher bar
[17:03] <ActionParsnip> Skei: no worries :)
[17:03] <schweegi> how can i install the CalDav integration in evolution on ubuntu 11.04?
[17:03] <xangua> mikebeecham: keep Shift pressed when booting
[17:03] <mikebeecham> xangua: thx
[17:04] <perlsyntax> i hope ubuntu work good with android:)
[17:04] <exfileme> anyone else having problems with 11.04?
[17:04] <TheCynic> no problems at all exfileme
[17:04] <spungo> exfileme: everyone :P
[17:05] <larstorben> exfileme no
[17:05] <exfileme> spungo: thanks
[17:05] <perlsyntax> exfileme,whaat type of probs?
[17:05] <areay> vibhav, http://img848.imageshack.us/i/screenshotevv.png/
[17:05] <z0mbyk1d> hey, how do i restart inetd?
[17:05] <Skei> Does anyone know about integrated graphics support on 11.04 for a 1155 chip ?
[17:05] <z0mbyk1d>  1430 ?        Ss     0:00 /usr/sbin/inetd
[17:05] <venik> doing it now, although with little hope, since that is how I started
[17:05] <areay> vibhav, i've set the top panel to auto-hide
[17:06] <exfileme> anyone having better luck with the experimental drivers and Unity over Nvidia drivers?
[17:06] <elxordi> areay: i couldn't find the package to fix that. If it can help, i have it under the Desktop section on compiz settings manager
[17:06] <dios_mio> /topic #
[17:06] <spungo> looks like unity is about as welcome as a fart in a space suit.
[17:06] <elxordi> my graphics arent smooth with ubuntu 11.04, and they where on 10.10, with ATI latest driver. anyone can help me to solve it?
[17:06] <mikebeecham> guys...for some reason all I am seeing in additional drivers of 11.04 is (driver activated, but not currently in use). How can I resolve this?
[17:06] <tom__> x
[17:06] <areay> elxordi, nope, it's not in there :(
[17:07] <ChogyDan> mikebeecham: which driver?
[17:07] <Janusman> Just upgraded from 10.10 to 11.04 (I'm on WUBI) however, uname -r says I'm still using an older kernel... how do I use the new one?
[17:07] <mikebeecham> ChogyDan: hi mate! (version current)
[17:07] <Janusman> (also, on boot time the boot menu didn't show the new kernel)
[17:07] <larstorben> Janusman: reinstall it.
[17:07] <venik> Installing ubuntu-desktopo installs a lot of useless junk, like Empathy and Telepathy, etc., but I shall swallow it
[17:07] <elxordi> areay: maybe some package is missing. i'll give you a list of unity packages that i have installed, wait please
[17:07] <ActionParsnip> Janusman: try:  sudo update-grub    do you see the new kernel listed/
[17:07] <Janusman> larstorben: you mean, instead of upgrading I should reinstall everything? =)
[17:08] <ChogyDan> mikebeecham: hi  :)
[17:08] <larstorben> yes Janusman: that would be good :)
[17:08] <larstorben> do you use gnome or kde
[17:08] <areay> elxordi, it seems that's not my only problem. my sources.list is for maverick even though i've never had maverick installed. i upgraded from lucid to natty
[17:08] <mikebeecham> ChogyDan: yeah, I'm using the recommended proprietary drivers
[17:09] <Janusman> ActionParsnip: yes, in fact it was there before running sudo update-grub, it's there after. I'll reboot and see if it shows.
[17:09] <Janusman> thanks
[17:09] <ActionParsnip> Janusman: np man
[17:09] <larstorben> np
[17:09] <ChogyDan> mikebeecham: yeah, I have the same issue.  Not sure if it is accurate though.  It looks like 'nvidia' driver is the one in use
[17:09] <cablop> well guys
[17:09] <cablop> another question
[17:10] <elxordi> areay: :S people recommend to update to next inmediate version.... would you like my sources.list?
[17:10] <areay> elxordi, yes please, ty
[17:10] <cablop> compared to 10.10 is 10.04 much better or just a few  improvements?
[17:10] <dd214> how do I find a file by Wildcard search from a terminal command?
[17:10] <cablop> i mean 11.04
[17:10] <mikebeecham> ChogyDan: yeah, but I have no hardware acceleration, which means I cannot use compiz etc
[17:10] <vagvaf> hello people, do u know how can i set universal hot keys?
[17:10] <velcroshooz> areay, probably part of your problem. you cant skip versions unless its lts to lts - you should have upgraded to 10.10 then 11.04
[17:10] <elxordi> areay: wait ;)
[17:10] <ayecee> cablop: it's an incremental change as always.
[17:10] <davidshen84> hi, i just got 11.04 desktop install. it seems the compiz package is not installed by defualt?
[17:10] <ChogyDan> mikebeecham: what driver is being used according to this?  sudo lshw -C video
[17:10] <greylurk> cablop lots of changes... Unity is definitly something to get used ot.
[17:11] <cdavis> Anyone know where I can download a .deb of shc for natty?
[17:11] <Theoretician> Is Ubuntu 11.04 stable enough to run?
[17:11] <mikebeecham> ChogyDan: sec
[17:11] <ayecee> Theoretician: yes
[17:11] <greylurk> Theoretician I only installed it last night, but it seems to work fine, on a fresh install
[17:11] <cablop> mmm unity by default? then better i keep in 10.10 for a while... i disliked unity because it had a unable to hide bar at the left
[17:11] <davidshen84> hi, can anyone tell me how to zoom the desktop? like in 10.04
[17:11] <areay> velcroshooz, i just used the update manager. it doesn't give an option to choose which release to upgrade to
[17:11] <eiriksvin> can somone tell me why Ubuntu cant find my nVIDIA card?
 try "unity --reset"
[17:11] <NyvenZA> not to shoot it down, But I have been having massive graphics issues
[17:12] <eiriksvin> i cant update to natty becuase of it
[17:12] <ActionParsnip> cablop: you can boot to a traditional desktop if you want....default means nothing
[17:12] <greylurk> cablop the left bar autohides
[17:12] <elxordi> areay: http://paste.ubuntu.com/600848/
[17:12] <Theoretician> Are there any downsides to upgrading?
[17:12] <mikebeecham> ChogyDan: does not tell me driver...only gfx card
[17:12] <elxordi> areay: tell me if it works for you ;)
[17:12] <NyvenZA> eiriksvin: don't know, but I have same problem
[17:12] <ActionParsnip> eiriksvin: do you have one of those switchable video chips?
[17:12] <eiriksvin> Natty is cool, but just switch to classic mode... the new gui is unstable
[17:13] <greylurk> Theoretician You'll need to build new muscle memory in terms of where things are, and how to use the window manager.
[17:13] <ChogyDan> mikebeecham: is there a "configuration" line?
[17:13] <mikebeecham> sorry ChogyDan: Driver=Nvidia
[17:13] <eiriksvin> yeah it says i cant even use it
[17:13] <Theoretician> eiriksvin the new gui is bad? why?
[17:13] <cablop> i just liked the bar was like the win7 taskbar
[17:13] <elxordi> areay: also, try with "update-manager -d" on the terminal before. let's see if it offers you the possibility to update
[17:13] <perlsyntax> i shock they din't upgrade perl in ubuntu.
[17:13] <areay> vibhav, unknown option: --reset
[17:13] <areay> i think i broke ubuntu lol
[17:13] <areay> now do-release-upgrade is upgrading me to natty. even though i'm already theoretically using it
[17:13] <eiriksvin> bars dissappear and stuff
[17:13] <greylurk> perlsyntax i'm surprised that Natty still includes Eclipse Ganymede.
[17:14] <elxordi> http://paste.ubuntu.com/600848/
[17:14] <areay> elxordi, it seems that update-manager is working. i'm gonna let it finish. ty for your help:)
[17:14] <cablop> i disliked i cannot configure two panels as clasic one on top and below and move their items
[17:14] <juzzy__> hey, ive updated to 11.04 - how may I place a my old weather widget dock thing onto the upper bar again??
[17:14] <ChogyDan> cablop: use classic
[17:14] <juzzy__> there is not context menu
[17:14] <elxordi> areay: you're welcome :) good luck!
[17:14] <zombor> hi, are the live cd's supposed to be working with intel i3+H61 machines?
[17:14] <perlsyntax> greylurk,Is that the newer one?
[17:15] <eiriksvin> is there a way to update my nVIDIA driver?
[17:15] <greylurk> perlsyntax no, the newest is Helios.
[17:15] <aetaric> hey updated to 11.04 and my nvidia driver updated with it, it says it's activated but not currently in use.
[17:15] <cablop> sigh, i'll like the apps left bar with the classic panels and so on xD
[17:15] <cablop> in fact i just want the left bar from unity :P
[17:15] <cablop> any sound or video issues?
[17:15] <venik> why does it take forever on WAITING FOR HEADERS?
[17:16] <eiriksvin> cablop>its a bit buggy still, give it a month or so
[17:16] <cablop> that crappy pulseaudio becomes just noise and cracks and bleeps after a while, but alsa cannot deal tih my mic
[17:16] <NyvenZA> so far most complains seem to be NVida and Unity related
[17:16] <greylurk> cablop Mine installed just fine with an NVidia Card and onboard sound on an ECS motherboard ( don't have the specs handy right now )
[17:16] <cablop> *with
[17:16] <cablop> mmm i see
[17:16] <e01> hello
[17:16] <exfileme> i like the unity interface, I just wish the icons  would appear and the bar would hide like it's supposed to.
[17:17] <cablop> afaik the cracky crappy sund it is an issue related to laptops netbooks
[17:17] <aetaric> mine is just not playing nice
[17:17] <jMCg> Hey folks.
[17:17] <greylurk> cablop it sounds like people are having trouble with upgrades on NVidia hardware though.
[17:17] <eiriksvin> we installed Natty on my Moms comp, and it updated nvidia fine, and it did it all on its own, but mine says i have no driver
[17:17] <e01> how can i add partitions to be automounted in natty, because in current installer, there is no option to using custom locations for mounting
[17:17] <cablop> when the kernel uses some event instead of time management in order to save battery
[17:17]  * NyvenZA is trying Nvidia drivers direclty from Nvidia now
[17:17] <NyvenZA> busy installing
[17:17] <ActionParsnip> eiriksvin: may need to run:  sudo nvidia-xconfig
[17:17] <cablop> i always used nvidia drivers in ubuntu
[17:18] <cablop> i mean
[17:18] <greylurk> eiriksvin were you upgrading yours or was it a fresh install?
[17:18] <jMCg> I'm having trouble grasping exactly what stuff is put in /usr/lib and what is put in /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu -- and why. -- Can someone point me to a possible explanation?
[17:18] <cablop> original drivers
[17:18] <cablop> :P
[17:18] <exfileme> i couldnt get drivers downloaded from nvidia to install :(
[17:18] <eiriksvin> upgrading
[17:18] <venik> boot in 10 seconds... waiting for heareds-- eternity
[17:18] <eiriksvin> trying xconfig
[17:18] <cablop> ubuntu is free but its main focus is be usable rather than OSS
[17:18] <TheHackOps> Hey guys
[17:19] <JoshDreamland> Hey all; increment the number of people that are so dissatisfied with Unity as to throw their computer out the window, for me
[17:19] <Skei> Anyone know much about 1155 graphics cards under Natty ?
[17:19] <eiriksvin> eiriksvin@ubuntu:~$ sudo nvidia-xconfig
[17:19] <eiriksvin> [sudo] password for eiriksvin:
[17:19] <eiriksvin> sudo: nvidia-xconfig: command not found
[17:19] <eiriksvin> eiriksvin@ubuntu:~$
[17:19] <TheHackOps> cablop, Which is why it works better that most other distros
[17:19] <ActionParsnip> cablop: I just use what gets the job done. I don't care if its OSS or not
[17:19] <eiriksvin> wee
[17:19] <ActionParsnip> eiriksvin: then install the nvidia driver from the repo
[17:19] <TheHackOps> ActionParsnip, What are you trying to do?
[17:19] <JoshDreamland> Can someone direct me as to finding the Appearance preferences?
[17:19] <abhishek> hi guy's
[17:19] <cablop> ActionParsnip: same here :)
[17:19] <eiriksvin> how?
[17:19] <JoshDreamland> Or any preferences at all, really?
[17:19] <TheHackOps> JoshDreamland, pm me
[17:19] <arand> JoshDreamland: Shutdown button
[17:19] <cablop> wait
[17:19] <cablop> i want the answer of finding prefs too
[17:20] <TheHackOps> arand, no trolling
[17:20] <aetaric> eiriksvin, system > administration > additional drivers
[17:20] <mikebeecham> Hi...can anyone advise on why 11.04 proprietary drivers are "activate, but not in use"?
[17:20] <eiriksvin> thank you
[17:20] <arand> TheHackOps: Same to you sir.
[17:20] <greylurk> JoshDreamland in unity prefs is under the applications.
[17:20] <TheHackOps> cablop, USC > ccsm
[17:20] <aetaric> mikebeecham, nvidia?
[17:20] <mikebeecham> aetaric: yessir
[17:20] <cablop> mikebeecham: license terms, meaning you as a person actively enable them
[17:20] <aetaric> mikebeecham, having the same issue
[17:20] <mikebeecham> cablop: how?
[17:20]  * NyvenZA want to break something
[17:20] <MnCC> how do i get compiz working again ?
[17:21] <NyvenZA> still no luck with these damn drivers
[17:21] <JoshDreamland> I miss GNOME so bad it aches. I had to launch pidgin from a terminal
[17:21] <cablop> if thinks are like 10.10 just ticking the active checkbox
[17:21] <TheHackOps> to many people on tonight who to help first
[17:21] <TheHackOps> gahh
[17:21] <wrinkliez> is there a way to change the default ubuntu  lense? when i bring up the dash, for example, i dont even use email so could i change it?
[17:21] <mikebeecham> cablop: where is the checkbox?
[17:21] <eiriksvin> ok, downloading and installing recommended driver
[17:21] <mikebeecham> there is no active checkbox in 'Additional Drivers'
[17:21] <cablop> let me check mikebeecham
[17:21] <arand> JoshDreamland: cablop: TheHackOps: System settings are in the shutdown menu.
[17:21] <mikebeecham> cablop: would appreciate it...thanks
[17:21] <greylurk> JoshDreamland I kind of like typing to find my programs... it feels like im in a CLI again.
[17:21] <Janusman> ActionParsnip: I'm finding I have to manually edit /boot/grub/grub.cfg to have the new kernel in the boot menu... hoping that works (again; I'm using wubi)
[17:22] <TheHackOps> whats the offtopic channel again
[17:22] <TheHackOps> i need to rant about unity
[17:22] <cablop> why system settings in the shutdown menu????
[17:22] <MnCC> did they remove gnome ? .. that would prob explain why compiz isnt working
[17:22] <JoshDreamland> greylurk: no, it feels like windows 7
[17:22] <MnCC> *ielg*
[17:22] <JoshDreamland> Thank you, arand
[17:22] <greylurk> JoshDreamland wouldn't know... i don't use Windows 7.
 many of us do
[17:22] <vibhav> any problems anyone?
[17:22] <WLU> randomly my laptop freezes the screen with horizontal lines and nothing can be done except a hard reboot. This is been occurring  with 9.04, 9.10, and now 10.04. The laptop is X61T lenovo tablet with GMA 950 I don't know it it a video card problem or something else, any help is greatly appreciated
[17:22] <TheHackOps> JoshDreamland, Don't mention that
[17:22] <JoshDreamland> unfortunately, none of those preferences are "Show all of my programs"
[17:22] <cablop> MnCC yup it seems unity uses its own windowmanager, not the compiz one
[17:22] <TheHackOps> just revert back to 10.10 like i did
[17:22] <TheHackOps> all good
[17:22] <JoshDreamland> I feel like I'm suffocating.
[17:23] <abhishek> any body help me to upgrade my ubuntu 10.10
[17:23] <cablop> mikebeecham: afaik you get somehow to the additional drivers panel
[17:23] <TheHackOps> Lulz
 I ca nhelp
[17:23] <aperson> does xargs work with bash functions?  I'm trying send the output of xargs to a function, but it's not working
 I can help
[17:23] <eiriksvin> im just gonna use classic mode, no need to revert back:)
[17:23] <MnCC> cablop, i can use compiz .. with the --replace option .. but how do i make that stick permanently ?
[17:23] <JoshDreamland> Whoever thought this panel to the side with six programs in it was useful was obviously a mac user
[17:23] <cablop> mikebeecham: then select the one you want to enable and click on the activate button, it will disable the free one and enable the restricted driver
[17:23] <aetaric> cablop, accept the is no check box in that
[17:23] <NyvenZA> ok, I uninstalled UNITY, I uninstalled ALL the NVIDIA drivers, I then downloaded the latest NVDIA drivers from NVIDIA direclty. I rebooted and lightDM comes up. I can login, bit only the icons on the desktop are displayed, i can't interactect with them or do anyting else. No window manger loads...
[17:23] <eiriksvin> Natty classic mode is clean as a whistle
[17:23] <TheHackOps> how do i pm someone in irc again i forgot
[17:23] <aetaric> cablop, and it doesn't enable it
[17:23] <dotlegend> i am trying to copy data from a home folder (suse os) how can i properly take ownership and copy data to new external drive??
[17:23] <arand> aperson: Full command and desired outcome? (pastebin if necessary)
[17:23] <cablop> no checkbox, sorry, was confused
[17:23] <NyvenZA> It looks like the Xorg is the problem not unity
[17:23] <gartral> WLU: have you tryed switching VTs>X with alt-f6/alt-f7?
[17:23] <TheHackOps> how do i pm someone in irc again i forgot
[17:24] <cablop> afaik, if you use nvidia you will have a long way to go
[17:24] <mikebeecham> cablop: Yes, normally this would be the case, but I've downloaded, installed and booted usinf the nvidia drivers, but I am being told they are activated, but not in use!!
[17:24] <gartral> TheHackOps: /msg nick words
[17:24] <JoshDreamland> how can I trade unity back for GNOME?
[17:24] <cablop> for 10.04 and 10.10 you need to delete nuveau drivers first, then install the nvidia ones
[17:24] <ScottONanski> I'm using Unity with the Nvidia proprietary 270. drivers.
[17:24] <MnCC> anyone know how i can make the compiz --replace permanent ?
[17:24] <TheHackOps> nono start a private chat
[17:24] <ScottONanski> Works great.
[17:24] <mikebeecham> cablop: no you dont!
logout and choose gnome old
[17:24] <dotlegend> classic
[17:24] <JoshDreamland> thanks, dotlegend
[17:24]  * aetaric wonders if hacking up some x11 will solve his issues
[17:24] <gartral> JoshDreamland: logout, select name, theres a little dropdown that should read "ubuntu" change it too "ubuntu classic"
[17:24] <greylurk> How do I install Oracle Java?
[17:25] <arand> TheHackOps: You should avoid /msg ing people in this chat anyways.
 go to ur login screen, at the bottom choose Classic Mode as ur session
[17:25] <xangua> !java | greylurk
[17:25] <cablop> MnCC not sure, but try installing the CompizFusionIcon, and change settings from there, it'll change the settings for you
[17:25] <eiriksvin> doh, he beat me to it
[17:25] <TheHackOps> arand, going to help the people i know a solution to bcz its busy hour at the moment
[17:25] <mvdir> I am getting the following error trying to install from a ppa in ec2: "Unable to connect to ppa.launchpad.net:http:"
[17:25] <rauchy> Hey guys. If I've been running 11.04 beta, and ran 'apt-get upgrade', am I actually running the release?
[17:25] <MnCC> cablop, im on it =)
[17:25] <arand> TheHackOps: Then please do so in this channel so that everyone can chip in.
[17:25] <greylurk> Oracle java isn't showing up in Natty though.
[17:25] <cablop> mikebeecham: i did that in 10.10 to enable the nvidia drivers, i removed many nouveau content
[17:26] <abhishek> hello vibhav are u there
[17:26] <TheHackOps> Ok
[17:26] <TheHackOps> Sure
[17:26] <xangua>  because ppa.launchpad.net:http: is not a ppa raunchy
[17:26] <gartral> rauchy: yes! welcome too the stable
[17:26] <eiriksvin> and he even had it "right" it is called Ubuntu Classic
[17:26] <TheHackOps> its hard to see whats going on the chat is running so fast
[17:26] <WLU> gartal: No I have not what does this do?
[17:26] <TheHackOps> but ok what ever
[17:26] <cablop> because a broken reference in somepackage makes nouveau lanch and then you cannot use the nvidia drivers
[17:26] <JoshDreamland> I feel so invaded ;_;
[17:26] <xangua> !enter | TheHackOps and please don't make it worse ;)
[17:26] <arand> TheHackOps: Unless you ask and they confirm that you want a pm, of course.
[17:26]  * NyvenZA is ready to start sobbing
[17:26] <eiriksvin> heh
[17:26] <gartral> TheHackOps: ues /lastlog TheHackOps
[17:26] <rauchy> gartral: thanks. but I didn't get any "Newer version of Ubuntu" notification, which I'm used to from previous releases.
[17:26] <cablop> greylurk, enable all repos, then try again
[17:26] <TheHackOps> I have a solution to the nvidia, go to there website and download the linux drivers they work fine
 Yes iam there
[17:26] <arnab> hi - my ubuntu doesn't show any higher resolution than 1024x768 - i am running ubuntu in virtualbox. can i get a better resolution?
[17:27] <gartral> rauchy: yea, the put those on the chopping block
[17:27]  * vibhav is ready to help
[17:27] <NyvenZA> TheHackOps: I just tried it and it doesn't work for me
[17:27] <MnCC> btw .. my update to 11.04 wrecked: fingerprint reader, compiz, virtualbox, xbmc, shutdown/reboot from gui  .. lots of work todo
[17:27] <abhishek> so, plz help me about upgrade
[17:27] <TheHackOps> NyvenZA, Error?
[17:27] <ScottONanski> TheHackOps: That's what I'm using. Downloaded, and installed them this morning.
[17:27]  * eiriksvin says brb got a turtle head poking out... :D
[17:27] <cablop> TheHackOps: yes, that solves the nvidia thing, but with a cost, each time you upgrade your kernel they recomplie something and your old kernels won't work for gui
[17:27] <ScottONanski> Didn
[17:27] <CQ> arnab- my ubuntu guests resize as I resize the window, with the guest additions isntalled
[17:27] <rauchy> gartral: ok, off I go to enjoy my new 11.04 :-D
[17:27] <rauchy> gartral: thanks
[17:27] <NyvenZA> TheHackOps: nope, no errors that is why I am ready to cry
[17:27] <JoshDreamland> My God, even the scroll bars are unusable
[17:27] <NyvenZA> lol
[17:27] <NyvenZA> I can login
[17:27] <vibhav> abhishek you want to upgrade to 11.04 or 10.10?
[17:27] <ScottONanski> Didn't even remove the old drivers. lol
[17:27] <arnab> god.. you're right CQ! thanks
[17:28] <JoshDreamland> How do I get my old scroll bars back?
[17:28] <NyvenZA> I selected classic, noeffects , safemode
[17:28] <NyvenZA> all of them
[17:28] <NyvenZA> I get to the desktop
[17:28] <NyvenZA> the icons are there
[17:28] <JoshDreamland> You know, the ones that did more than just indicate where I am
[17:28] <TheHackOps> NyvenZA, What problems is it causing, cablop, thats what happens when the kernal updates all the time...
[17:28] <NyvenZA> But I can't interact with the desktop
[17:28] <gartral> MnCC: the virtualbox ptoblem is probably because the kernel drivers didn't get recompiled..
[17:28] <arnab> so is there any way to get the classic menus back?
[17:28] <riba> hh
[17:28] <mikebeecham> Hi...can anyone advise on why 11.04 proprietary drivers are "activate, but not in use"?
[17:28] <riba> e
[17:28] <cablop> for everyone, i suggest you to install the classic gnome desktop, then tweak it until compiz and drivers are working properly
[17:28] <lgp171188> Hi, I am using Natty. I find that even when I am connected to the internet, my me menu status set to available, still there is no textbox in the me menu to post. What is the issue?
[17:29] <cablop> then move to unity and make it works
[17:29] <dotlegend> i am trying to copy data from a home folder (suse os) how can i properly take ownership and copy data to new external drive??
[17:29] <Guest32828> hello
[17:29] <TheHackOps> NyvenZA, Does not sound like a display driver issue, did you update the kernel or something?
[17:29] <JoshDreamland> Now the thing died. I'm so angry about this new release, I could kill someone. Or go write an angry blog.
[17:29] <Guest32828> awdplawpdoa
[17:29] <Guest32828> wdawd
[17:29] <Guest32828> awd
[17:29] <ScottONanski> mikebeecham: Download and install the proprietaries from Nvidia's site.
[17:29] <ScottONanski> They work much better.
[17:29] <TheHackOps> ScottONanski, he did
[17:29] <CQ> arnab: log out, and then after you select yout username onteh login page, look atht e bottom of the screen and select ubuntu classic
[17:29] <zombor> hello, im trying to install ubuntu, and i get the bootloader, but when i select "install" i just get a blank screen. im trying to install it on an intel i3 H61 machine, anyone know how to get it to work?
[17:29] <cablop> Nyvenza do that, move to classic gnome and deal with it until compiz works
[17:29] <xangua> lgp171188: did you add a twitter account to gwibber¿¿
[17:29] <NyvenZA> TheHackOps: ok, I tried to update the vboxdrv earlier and it comaplined that the worng version of the header files are installed
[17:29] <arnab> thanks!
[17:29] <MnCC> gartral, in my case i had no source/headers/generic files .. after downloading i was able to recompile
[17:29] <xangua> i think gwibber now uses lens, not sure lgp171188
[17:30] <cablop> Nyvenza not all headers are installed by default
[17:30] <lgp171188> xangua: Yes. I have twitter, facebook and identi.ca accounts added. In fact I get notifications for all those accounts
[17:30] <TheHackOps> NyvenZA, Ok, then did it crash after that
[17:30] <TheHackOps> or stop working
[17:30] <JoshDreamland> I can't scroll. I can't see where my cursor is.  Good bye.
[17:30] <aetaric> so i need to uninstall the opensource nvidia drivers?
[17:30] <NyvenZA> cablop: how do I change to the classic gnom?
[17:30] <mikebeecham> ScottONanski: are they different from the one that came with 11.04?  And is that an easy install?
[17:30] <floop_> hi all
[17:30] <cablop> aetaric i suggest you to install the proprietary ones
[17:30] <NyvenZA> TheHackOps: I have had no craches
[17:30] <ScottONanski> Yes, mike.
[17:30] <TheHackOps> Who the hell idea was unity anyway, its a bad idea
[17:30] <aetaric> cablop, they already are
[17:31] <ScottONanski> mike. pm me. and bring a pen.
[17:31] <TheHackOps> NyvenZA, I mean is that when it stoped working
[17:31] <cablop> Nyvenza afaik sudo apt-get install gnome-desktop
[17:31] <mikebeecham> ScottONanski: will do"
[17:31] <NyvenZA> I just can't believe that they relieased it with so many issues
[17:31] <abhishek> hello  vaibhav
[17:31] <arand> zombor: If you press F6 and remove "quiet splash" from the boot line, does it display any instersting errors?
[17:31] <NyvenZA> Xorg and Virtual box stoped workign uppon upgrading to 11.04
[17:31] <TheHackOps> NyvenZA, Im confused are you on clasic or unity
[17:31] <arand> zombor: Alternatively, does the alternate install CD work better?
[17:31] <NyvenZA> currently on the default unity
[17:31] <TheHackOps> kk
[17:31] <cablop> the best time was when they launched 6.06, they do a good work to release something with no errors
[17:32] <NyvenZA> TheHackOps: want to try and go back to classic now
[17:32] <TheHackOps> try what cablop said
[17:32] <NyvenZA> to see if that works
[17:32] <zombor> arand: let me try your first suggestion
[17:32] <zombor> arand: i havent tried the alternate install
[17:32] <spungo> NyvenZA: got the latest vbox?
[17:32] <cablop> after that ubuntu seems to be, try, and deal with it until you got used to what WE believe it is good for you
[17:32] <TheHackOps> NyvenZA, sudo apt-get install gnome-desktop
[17:32] <DasEi> NyvenZA: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/27668927/gnome
[17:32] <ActionParsnip> TheHackOps: don't use it then
[17:32] <TheHackOps> ActionParsnip, What?
[17:32] <spungo> NyvenZA: 4.0.6 iirc
[17:32] <nit-wit> complain somewhere else please
[17:32] <ActionParsnip> TheHackOps: you can use classic desktop if you dislike unity
[17:32] <gartral> TheHackOps: unity is... "fun" <grumble>
[17:33] <floop_> nvidia drivers on ion2 not working :( Asus vx6
[17:33] <zombor> arand: without quiet boot, a bunch of stuff scrolls by, then i get a blank screen
[17:33] <NyvenZA> DasEi: what was that ?
[17:33] <TheHackOps> ActionParsnip, Im not using it, i just love to help out the community and this seems to be the biggest problem among new people
[17:33] <cablop> but, besides ranting, my suggestion is this to solve all unity and nvidia and compiz issues
[17:33] <ActionParsnip> floop_: install nvidia-current and reboot, failing that, install nvidia-173    and reboot
[17:33] <TheHackOps> and old timers aswell
[17:33] <eiriksvin> brb restarting
[17:33] <NyvenZA> spungo: I am rebooting system all the time can't use something else right now
[17:33] <TheHackOps> k
[17:33] <Kevin147> I upgraded yesterday, and now my desktop is saying the following: "Minimal BASH-like line editing is supported. For the first word, TAB lists possible command completions. Anywhere else TAB lists possible device or file completions."
[17:33] <DasEi> NyvenZA: a link on howto switch back to gnome
[17:33] <MnCC> compiz-fusion didnt do the trick ..
[17:33] <xinel> eh my dad seems to like unity, and if ubuntu wants more desktop users i think it was a good move imo
[17:33] <NyvenZA> cablop: I get  "e: unable to locate package gnome-desktop"
[17:33] <ActionParsnip> TheHackOps: I don't see an issue personally
[17:34] <TheHackOps> MnCC, Problem?
[17:34] <cablop> install the classic gnome, you already know it, then configure compiz, drivers and so on until they work, then when everything is working fine move to unity
[17:34] <Younder> Hmm seems  the video controller and PCI controller both use irq 16 no wonder it fails.. (11.04 failed to start window manager correctly, nvidea card seemed the culprit)
[17:34] <NyvenZA> DasEi: what format is it. the file name was just gnome
[17:34] <TheHackOps> ActionParsnip, Where not meant to talk about that in here, it hogs the channel
[17:34] <jaymeskeller> Hi, I have a problem with g15daemon under 11.04. When I attempt to start it up, it hangs, telling me that it couldn't find "/dev/input/uinput". I have attempted to use "/dev/uinput/", but it hangs. Any ideas, or just file a big report?
[17:34] <feisar> man... I'm having no luck with 11.04, the upgrade screwed up my system and now a fresh install is stuck in an error loop
[17:34] <jaymeskeller> *bug
[17:34] <ActionParsnip> TheHackOps: mind you, I use a lot of LXDE these days
[17:34] <MnCC> TheHackOps, yeah .. cant get compiz to work
[17:34] <DasEi> NyvenZA: ic, second, changing it
[17:34] <TheHackOps> MnCC, Specificaly what won't work
[17:34] <NyvenZA> ActionParsnip: the 173 nvidia had the exact same results
[17:34] <tarunno> Hello guys
[17:34] <arand> zombor: Hmm, I guess the kernel work, but possibly it stumbles when it initialises video drivers or something, I don't know then I'm afraid, you may want to try the alternate install CD, or look up your particular computer model and video card model and see if there are known issues there..
[17:34] <BinaryMan> feisar: better luck than me. i can't get a livecd environment from the burned iso.
[17:34] <tarunno> happy release to all
[17:35] <tarunno> I have a question
[17:35] <cablop> give me a second about enabling the old gnome desktop
[17:35] <TheHackOps> MnCC, Or just compiz won't work at all
[17:35] <DasEi> NyvenZA: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/27668927/gnome.txt
[17:35] <aperson> arand⍈ sorry, rsibreak made me take a break: http://pastie.org/1847785
[17:35] <feisar> BinaryMan: that's not good to hear
[17:35] <MnCC> TheHackOps, it doesnt work
[17:35] <zombor> arand: im just using the built in video of the processor
[17:35] <tarunno> I read the Cannonicals official blog earlier
[17:35] <Kevin147> Can anyone help me?
[17:35] <TheHackOps> MnCC, 11.04 i assume?
[17:35] <TheHackOps> Kevin147, Shoot
[17:35] <aperson> arand⍈ that's an example, though what xargs is doing doesn't matter too much, it's the fact that it's not recognizing the function
[17:35] <DasEi> !details | Kevin147
[17:35] <tarunno> they said there won't be any netbook version in 11.04
[17:35] <Kevin147> I did already....:
[17:36] <Kevin147> I upgraded yesterday, and now my desktop is saying the following: "Minimal BASH-like line editing is supported. For the first word, TAB lists possible command completions. Anywhere else TAB lists possible device or file completions."
[17:36] <tarunno> but I can see a torrent file for 11.04 in Ubuntu site
[17:36] <MnCC> TheHackOps, yeah .. when i use --replace the window manager .. voila .. but dont know how to make that stick permanently
[17:36] <tarunno> why is that?
[17:36] <NyvenZA> DasEi: I can't get into the GUI,  I installed LightDM and on the login screen I see the option for classic. It goed the same problem
[17:36] <ActionParsnip> tarunno: i don't see how the two are linked
[17:36] <TheHackOps> MnCC, how are you making changes
[17:37] <abhishek> hello dear any one help me to upgarde my ubntu 10.10 in 11.04
[17:37] <tarunno> ActionParsnip, which two?
[17:37] <aperson> arand⍈ I'd guess it's because xargs uses a separate shell?
[17:37] <TheHackOps> MnCC, For compiz i use ccsm (found in software center) then open term and type sudo ccsm
[17:37] <ActionParsnip> !upgrade | abhishek
[17:37] <DasEi> NyvenZA: sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm && sudo service gdm start
[17:37] <SpaceBass> has anyone tried to compile x264 on 11.04? keeps failing on my server install
[17:37] <TheHackOps> MnCC, sudoer seems to work
[17:37] <ActionParsnip> tarunno: the lack of netbook and the torrent you can download ubuntu with
[17:37] <cablop> to open the classic gnome i think this wpuld be the guide http://ubuntuguide.net/ubuntu-11-04-natty-login-to-classic-gnome-2-desktop
[17:37] <dd214> anyone use a CAC?
[17:37] <MnCC> TheHackOps, used compiz settings manager
[17:37] <aperson> !anyone | dd214
[17:37] <ActionParsnip> dd214: what is CAC?
[17:37] <gartral> dd214: CAC?
[17:37] <dd214> Having trouble finding my CAC reader
[17:38] <charlie_> hi, i have a question about xubuntu, an easy one i guess.
[17:38] <aperson> !ask charlie_
[17:38] <gartral> charlie_: then ask!
[17:38] <charlie_> thx
[17:38] <maximm> anyone get unity running on two monitors ?
[17:38] <aperson> gah
[17:38] <cablop> in fact i tried unity in 10.10 and classic gnome, and, classic gnome saves the more space for you on a netbook screen, unity waste space.... ironically (at least in 10.10)
[17:38] <TheHackOps> MnCC, go into terminal and type sudo ccsm
[17:38] <aperson> !ask | charlie_
[17:38] <dd214> ActionParsnip, CAC = Common Access Card
[17:38] <NyvenZA> oooooo
[17:38] <NyvenZA> something happend
[17:38] <NyvenZA> I used unity --replace
[17:38] <DasEi> NyvenZA: so ?
[17:39] <TheHackOps> MnCC, go into terminal and type sudo ccsm
[17:39] <charlie_> i just installes xubuntu 11.04 everything ok but xubuntu automatically mounts my windows volume on my desk
[17:39] <NyvenZA> gave a lot of test on the screen and the X start didn't work
[17:39] <arand> aperson: Hmm...
[17:39] <NyvenZA> I CTRL + C the unity--replace
[17:39] <MnCC> TheHackOps, no go =(
[17:39] <NyvenZA> and then when I went back to X
[17:39] <TheHackOps> there should be a huge WARNING DO NOT UPGRADE
[17:39] <NyvenZA> the icons I clicked on had opned apps
[17:39] <TheHackOps> May cause loss of sleep
[17:39] <tarunno> ActionParsnip, in this page it shows a torrent file for downloading "ubuntu-11.04-netbook-i386.iso" http://www.ubuntu.com/download/ubuntu/alternative-download
[17:39] <aperson> arand⍈ got a better way I can read lines from a file and run that function per line?
[17:39] <NyvenZA> and I can iinteract witht he icons on the desktop now
[17:39] <ActionParsnip> TheHackOps: ccsm with sudo isn't a good idea
[17:39] <tarunno> ActionParsnip, which seems like a deadlink
[17:40] <cablop> Nyvenza check this one http://ubuntuguide.net/ubuntu-11-04-natty-login-to-classic-gnome-2-desktop
[17:40] <TheHackOps> ActionParsnip, Fixed my flash Uber lag
[17:40] <ActionParsnip> tarunno: I always use: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/11.04/release/
[17:40] <DasEi> !yay | NyvenZA:
[17:40] <timrc> anyone with a tp experiencing weirdness with the battery indicator?  the indicator reports the correct time remaining but shows the battery as a red outline (which I thought was to indicate power is getting low)
[17:40] <jaymeskeller> Hi, I'm having problems with g5daemon under 11.04. It hangs with the error "/dev/input/uinput cannot be found". I tried to fix it by changing the setting to "/dev/uinput" but no go. Any ideas?
[17:40] <ActionParsnip> TheHackOps: sudo isn't to be used with GUI apps, use gksudo
[17:40] <TheHackOps> If you know what your doing its a rly good idea
[17:40] <jaymeskeller> *g15
[17:40] <timrc> er forgot to mention I'm running 11.04
[17:40] <Macer> anybody know where i can find ubuntu documentation on setting up coda?
[17:40] <einseenai> guys, if i upgrade to 11.04, will it brake my classic gnome?
[17:40] <NyvenZA> I don't currently have a window manger running but i can now atleast interact
[17:40] <dd214> I'm slowly going through dmesg to find CAC, but no luck
[17:40] <cablop> einseenai, afaik... yes
[17:40] <tarunno> ActionParsnip, I use the mirror hosted in my country
[17:40] <ActionParsnip> TheHackOps: sudo will run it as root, which won't change the users settings, it will change root
[17:40] <DasEi> Macer: look in the forum
[17:40] <cuppsy> On a fresh install of 11.04, Empathy disconnects from Windows Live every hour or so when inactive. Anyone have any idea why that would happen?
[17:40] <Kevin147> alright what ever, no one is gonna help me -_- thanks anyway
[17:40] <Dr_Willis> jaymeskeller:  i noticed some of my USB  devices not working/seen untill i unplug/plug them back in. :(
[17:40] <NyvenZA> ok,so now it is not a driver issue anymore, but it looks like an unity issue
[17:40] <Macer> DasEi: tried. dont see much
[17:40] <NyvenZA> gnome here i come
[17:40] <TheHackOps> ActionParsnip, Well you learn something new every day
[17:41] <Macer> i was hoping for a wiki
[17:41] <ActionParsnip> tarunno: I use torrents, much faster and allows you to give back to the community
[17:41] <arand> aperson: I think the end result of that is «« scmd say bash -c "screen -p 0 -S minecraft -X eval 'stuff \"$*\"\015'" »» Which I guess is not what you are after really?
[17:41] <aperson> !patience | Kevin`
[17:41] <charlie_> i dont want xubuntu to put windows volumes on my desk at startup. How can i fix it?
[17:41] <timrc> einseenai, you should be able to select "classic mode" when you login
[17:41] <aperson> arand⍈ it is, I'm sure of that
[17:41] <MnCC> TheHackOps, tried gksu .. but still no luck ..
[17:41] <einseenai> cablop, thx
[17:41] <DasEi> Macer: I don't have experience with it, also #ubuntu-server or #httpd might be places to ask
[17:41] <TheHackOps> MnCC, Wierd with gksudo mine got reset and won't stick anymore lulz
[17:41] <aperson> arand⍈ that function is just a base for a bunch of other commands, it works fine
[17:42] <Macer> httpd?
[17:42] <Dr_Willis> charlie_:  i think thats handled by the xubuntus file manager.   But it may be an all or nothing 'show icons of not' setting.  theres #xubuntu you can ask
[17:42] <Macer> for coda? :)
[17:42] <DasEi> Macer: server-related channel
[17:42] <A_J> Hey all, i want to Upgrade to Natty, i have a question : I have a Hard copy of Ubuntu:Linux 10.04 LTS Version, will I be able to reffer it, cause it's brand new. and i could not find any books on 10.10, so i presume i won't find anything on natty
[17:42] <cablop> einseenai recommendation was for me to wait at least one month before tryin to upgrade
[17:42] <arand> aperson: I guess you could just use "for i in file.list; do somethingwith "$i"; done"
[17:42] <Macer> i guess coda would be a good fs to use for httpd
[17:42] <Asad2005> alltray doesnot work with firefox in natty any help ?
[17:42] <NyvenZA> cablop: I don't have menus to click on, this doesn't really help
[17:42] <Macer> ok thx
[17:42] <TheHackOps> I got a problem i need help with while im here, Anyone know about fixing the epic fullscreen lag with flash
[17:42] <JonMarkGo> Hi all, I was upgrading to 11.04 and it asked me to reboot to complete the update. I rebooted and now I get "Kernel panic - Unable to mount root fs"
[17:42] <Dr_Willis> Asad2005:  the icontray thing i think has basically been removed.. i dont think alltray would work at all
[17:43] <cablop> Nyvenza, they replaced the menu for a button with all on it
[17:43] <wad> Yay, I got my 11.4 installed and running! Using it now. But.... where is the SYSTEM | PREFERENCES menu?
[17:43] <MnCC> TheHackOps, going for a reboot
[17:43] <charlie_> join #xubuntu
[17:43] <cablop> check the guide i gave you to get the old menus back
[17:43] <ChogyDan1> mikebeecham: even though I have the same issue as you, glxgears works.  So I think my card is working  *shrug*
[17:43] <TheHackOps> MnCC, Go for it
[17:43] <cablop> NyvenZA: check the guide i gave you to get the old menus back
[17:43] <tarunno> ActionParsnip, I download the ISO from mirror and then share that in our local tracker to BitTorrent it ;)
[17:43] <Dr_Willis> wad under the power button at top right.. for some reason
[17:43] <wad> Dr_Willis, There they are, thanks!
[17:43] <NyvenZA> cablop: I tried it, I can't get the classic to display on login
[17:43] <MnCC> TheHackOps, prob. wont do shit in my experience with ubuntu.. but it seems to help with windows
[17:43] <einseenai> timrc, thx, i know, but is this classic mode the same that gnome in 10.10?
[17:43] <Asad2005> Dr_Willis: but it is already working with other apps i tried it with calculator app ok
[17:43] <ActionParsnip> tarunno: same sort of deal
[17:43] <Dr_Willis> Im still not sure of the logic of putting that menu item under the Power button..
[17:43] <cablop> ok, then let me check it NyvenZA
[17:43] <A_J> any1 ?
[17:44] <ActionParsnip> tarunno: using torrents in the first instance means less faff
[17:44] <Chilaquiles> Hey, Does someone knows how to make the bar appear on the bottom of nautilus? it doesn't appear anymore, Im talking about the bar where the arrow to go back and the other arrow appear
[17:44] <A_J> Hey all, i want to Upgrade to Natty, i have a question : I have a  Hard copy of Ubuntu:Linux 10.04 LTS Version, will I be able to  reffer it, cause it's brand new. and i could not find any books on  10.10, so i presume i won't find anything on natty
[17:44] <DasEi> !ask | A_J
[17:44] <Asad2005> i am in classic not unity
[17:44] <TheHackOps> Yep
[17:44] <aperson> arand⍈ I suppose, I was trying to avoid cat'ing the file :)
[17:44] <cablop> NyvenZA: it should be there, in the login called ubuntu classic
[17:44] <Chilaquiles> Hey, Does someone knows how to make the bar appear on the bottom of the file,edit,view appear in nautilus? it doesn't appear anymore, Im talking about the bar where the arrow to go back and the other arrow appear
[17:44] <A_J> DasEi: check now ?
[17:44] <rcmaehl> After about 3 clean reinstalls of 11.04 and hundreds of updates it appears MOST of the bugs are out of 11.04
[17:44] <einseenai> cablop, thx a lot -)
[17:44] <arand> aperson: Hmm, with the one you used, you may want to enclose the bash string in $() to extract the result of running that command
[17:45] <aperson> arand⍈ yep, I know ;) thanks
[17:45] <NyvenZA> cablop:  the option is there. i select it, i login and then i get stuck
[17:45] <NyvenZA> I can't interact with the desktop
[17:45] <TheHackOps> ActionParsnip, Does your flash lag in fullscreen on things like youtube
[17:45] <DasEi>  A_J: you can use the updatemanager, and won't need lucid's cd then, just internet
[17:45] <asddfsasd> hello, if i upgrade to 11.04 from 10.10 will i lose my software, will it become incompatible?
[17:45] <ActionParsnip> rcmaehl: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/natty/+bugs  says 329 bugs in Natty
[17:45] <asddfsasd> i already see bookmarks and data will remain but what about software?
[17:45] <Skei> Silly question, but, is there some equivalent of the Device Manager ? I'm not sure my second video card is being detected and failing, or not being detected at all.
[17:45] <TheHackOps> asddfsasd, Don't do it
[17:45] <rcmaehl> ActionParsnip: cimpare that to ysterday
[17:45] <MnCC> TheHackOps, well that didnt do shit ..
[17:46] <mateobur> Hello all
[17:46] <TheHackOps> asddfsasd, If you had to ask that the problems will become endless
[17:46] <A_J> umm, DasEi u got it wrong
[17:46] <mateobur> I'm having a lot of problems with the repositories in 11.04
[17:46] <DasEi>  A_J: rephrase please
[17:46] <asddfsasd> why? TheHackOps i didn't get your answer :s
[17:46] <mateobur> a lot of indexes aren't found, so a lot of packages are not present
[17:46] <A_J> DasEi: i wanted to know if i can use a 10.04 LT Book for refrence to Natty
[17:46] <cablop> ok Nyvenza, but you are in the classic gnome, the one you know and you can fix it, then, try alt+f1 to reach the menu, or alt+f2 to run apps and run ccsm
[17:46] <DasEi> mateobur: use synaptics to find best mirror
[17:46] <mateobur> i.e. Err http://ppa.launchpad.net natty/main amd64 Packages
[17:46] <mateobur>   404  Not Found
[17:46] <ActionParsnip> TheHackOps: its fine here on my Intel Corporation Mobile 945GM/GMS  as well as my desktop system on Nvidia 6150 onboard
[17:46] <TheHackOps> asddfsasd, Beacuse it really buggy and if you don't know about ubuntu that mich don't try it yet
[17:47] <mah454> Hello ...
[17:47] <cablop> NyvenZA: alternatively you can install compiz fusion icon to select default windows manager and so on
[17:47] <TheHackOps> ActionParsnip, Im plauged then
[17:47] <mah454> I downloaded ubuntu-11.04
[17:47] <kcin1>  is there skype for arm?
[17:47] <ActionParsnip> TheHackOps: are you running 64bit OS?
[17:47] <A_J> !ask mah454
[17:47] <TheHackOps> kcin1, arm?
[17:47] <mah454> why ubuntu switch to ubity desktop ?
[17:47] <TheHackOps> ActionParsnip, Yea
[17:47] <kcin1> TheHackOps:armel
[17:47] <ActionParsnip> mah454: you can use classic desktop if you wish
[17:47]  * rcmaehl has about 300-ish shortcut keys to remap
[17:47] <asddfsasd> TheHackOps, ah i see then well thanks for te answer
[17:47] <DasEi>  A_J: ah, yes quite far, but natty comes with unity and some software is gone btw. changed, but that's still a good refrence, why not stay on lucid ?
[17:47] <ActionParsnip> TheHackOps: tried 64bit flash?
[17:47] <A_J> !ask | mah454
[17:47] <cannonball> Quick question, is there an easy during the upgrade from 10.10 to 11.04 to keep Gnome instead of being switched to Unity?  Or is that just a decision that's made for you?
[17:47] <NyvenZA> ok, once, I get unity killed off , i can interact with the desktop
[17:47] <A_J> DasEi: well ?
[17:48] <ActionParsnip> kcin1: check on the skype site
[17:48] <TheHackOps> ActionParsnip, yea i used a script to get that sandbox thing or whatver it is
[17:48] <rcmaehl> cannonball: gnome is still there i think
[17:48] <Nyromith> Hello. I didn't like unity and want to migrate to xubuntu (several computers). Is there a possibility that Canonical will drop the support for xubuntu because it's not popular?
[17:48] <TheHackOps> the beta 3 .so plugin
[17:48] <cablop> cannonball, before login reselect ubuntu classic in login menu
[17:48] <TheHackOps> for firefox
[17:48] <ActionParsnip> TheHackOps: there is a ppa with 64bit flash on the omgubuntu site
[17:48] <abhishek> can i restore my ubuntu in previous day
[17:48] <TheHackOps> ActionParsnip, How well does it work?
[17:48] <ActionParsnip> TheHackOps: its the smae file for ALL browsers, not just firefox
[17:48] <Chilaquiles> Hey, Does someone knows how to make the bar appear on the bottom of the file,edit,view appear in nautilus? it doesn't appear anymore, Im talking about the bar where the arrow to go back and the other arrow appear
[17:48] <ActionParsnip> TheHackOps: works fine here
[17:48] <cannonball> cablop: you're talking about after a successful upgrade. That sounds easy enough, thanks.
[17:48] <kcin1> ActionParsnip:only i386 64
[17:48] <DasEi> Nyromith: not planned, netbook will disappear
[17:48] <A_J> Hey all, i want to Upgrade to Natty, i have a question : I have a  Hard copy of Ubuntu:Linux 10.04 LTS Version, will I be able to  reffer it, cause it's brand new. and i could not find any books on  10.10, so i presume i won't find anything on natty
[17:49] <ActionParsnip> kcin1: then no, its only for those
[17:49] <TheHackOps> ActionParsnip, brb ill try it now
[17:49] <mah454> ubottu where i can ask question for this ?
[17:49] <cablop> netbook are not going to dissapear
[17:49] <ActionParsnip> kcin1: skype is proprietary so you will only get it if skype make it
[17:49] <A_J> ActionParsnip: please have a ;ppl
[17:49] <A_J> look*
[17:49] <dotlegend> i am trying to copy data from a home folder (suse os) how can i properly take ownership and copy data to new external drive??
[17:49] <kcin1> ActionParsnip: but maemo has a package
[17:49] <kcin1> for
[17:49] <ActionParsnip> kcin1: then try using it in some way
[17:49] <kcin1> forarm
[17:49] <Jot> Hi! I have experienced very annoying problem. Ubuntu 11.04 does not recognize my monitor. As result, I can't set proper resolution and refresh rate -.- I have tried everything I found on Internet. I'm not gonna give up but it's second day since I have been using new ubuntu and still I can't set basic things.
[17:49] <kcin1> ok
[17:49] <eigba> Hello all
[17:49] <damicita> can natty 32 vercion be install on a 64 bit computer ?
[17:49] <maximm> anyone able to get unity to run on two monitors ?
[17:49] <A_J> ActionParsnip: please have a look at my question
[17:49] <rcmaehl> Jot: have you tried xrandr
[17:50] <dryicebomb> damicita: yes
[17:50] <ActionParsnip> A_J: what does "reffer" mean?
[17:50] <Jot> I'm not sure
[17:50] <Xylch> I have ubuntu installed on half of my hard drive, the other half is a blank partition. I wanna know if it's possible to install a fresh copy of 11.04 onto my my blank partition from within ubuntu (My CD Drive is broken and my laptop doesn't support USB boot).
[17:50] <Dr_Willis> maximm:  i keep hearing it has issues..
[17:50] <rcmaehl> Jot: open terminal sudo xrandr 00auto
[17:50] <rcmaehl> ><
[17:50] <cablop> Nyromith: afaik xubuntu didn't have the support that gnome orkade had, so... i suggest you to use classic ubuntu instead, it is gnome, but gnome works so nice in a netbook
[17:50] <chadi> can I enable multitouch in natty on the classic theme?
[17:50] <rcmaehl> Jot: open terminal sudo xrandr --auto
[17:50] <A_J> refer*, typo
[17:50] <A_J> sorry
[17:50] <damicita> ok thank you
[17:50] <wad> hmmm... went to the compiz preferences, and enabled the desktop cube, and enabled OpenGL, and then all the window borders vanished. I can't move windows around anymore.... ideas?
[17:50] <kcin1> ActionParsnip:thanks,i just thought there would be a package on ubuntu ports
[17:50] <calrik> maximm: I have but its not that great
[17:50] <cablop> Nyromith: well at least in Atom netbooks, dunno in arm or eee
[17:50] <rcmaehl> wad: it disabled the unity plugin
[17:50] <Dr_Willis> Nyromith:  it seems Lubuntu just 11.04 got released also. It works niocely on netbooks as well.
[17:51] <ActionParsnip> A_J: you can boot to it to help fix things, if thats what you mean....
[17:51] <eigba> How is everyone liking unity? I like the overal layout however it's going to take a lot of modifying for me
[17:51] <maximm> not liking it much
[17:51] <wad> rcmaehl, ah, thanks. I reenabled it... still now window happiness.
[17:51] <mateobur> could someone please share a working sources.list for 11.04 with me using pastebin?
[17:51] <chadi> eigba: I don't like it, going back to classic
[17:51] <ActionParsnip> eigba: its ok
[17:51] <eigba> I perfoer gnome 3 for sure
[17:51] <rcmaehl> wad: restart x
[17:51] <A_J> ActionParsnip: i'm, basically using the book to learn funtions of ubuntu, so incase i upgrade.. will that become obsolete
[17:51] <DasEi> ActionParsnip: the question was if a lucid manaual will still fit for natty, I already answered it
[17:51] <wad> rcmaehl, okay, thanks!
[17:51] <calrik> it sucks for multiple monitors
[17:51] <maximm> yeah i need to switch to gnome 3
[17:52] <DasEi>  A_J: ah, yes quite far, but natty comes with unity and some software is gone btw. changed, but that's still a good refrence, why not stay on lucid ?
[17:52] <Atluxity> eigba, I like it. Especially when I read myself up on the hotkeys
[17:52] <A_J> DasEi: what about CLI ?
[17:52] <ActionParsnip> DasEi: oh i see
[17:52] <A_J> DasEi: is that the same
[17:52] <ActionParsnip> A_J: they will be pretty much the same
[17:52] <craigbass1976> Anyone know how to shrink the size of thunderbird's font in the thread (I think that's what it's called) pane?  I can shrink it in the actual messages, but not there or in the mail folders pane
[17:52] <calrik> single monitor it isnt bad
[17:52] <rcmaehl> eigba: it's ok but I recommend setting the unity shortcut key to ctrl+super
[17:52] <rcmaehl> instead of just super
[17:52] <cablop> Nyromith: I'm running Ubuntu 10.10 on a Compaq Mini netbook with compiz enabled and classic interface, able o launch a Virtualbox with Windows XP on it and using the whole hard drive encrypted, performance is nice
[17:52] <aperson> arand⍈ hmm.. if I $(cat $SPATH/motd) it runs on every word of the file, but if I quote it "$(cat $SPATH/motd)" it only runs on the first line
[17:52] <eigba> Im defantly having fun tinkering with it, Not sure if its something im gonna keep though
[17:53] <Jot> rcmaehl: I typed your cmd in terminal and now it's spammed with things like -display -help -o etc
[17:53] <A_J> ok thankyou DasEi and ActionParsnip , one last thing is the updater stable, or is they needed to take a back-up..
[17:53] <greylurk> exit
[17:53] <DasEi>  A_J: yes, basically, as said some soft has changed, for info look up chanelog natty, there is a bunch on the net, or simply stay with lucid and test natty in a vm for now
[17:53] <rcmaehl> Jot: a gui terminal or a tty terminal?
[17:53] <Jot> gui one
[17:53] <ActionParsnip> A_J: you should have a backup ANYWAY
[17:53] <Dr_Willis> aperson:  bash is expanding the variables once vs twice i think
[17:53] <Chilaquiles> Hey, Does someone knows how to make the bar appear on the bottom of the file,edit,view appear in nautilus? it doesn't appear anymore, Im talking about the bar where the arrow to go back and the other arrow appear
[17:54] <rcmaehl> Jot: aare you sure you typed "sudo xrandr --auto"
[17:54] <rcmaehl> ?
[17:54] <rcmaehl> minus the quotes
[17:54] <Jot> yep
[17:54] <A_J> ActionParsnip: gonna be a tad difficult considering i have 3tb running.. anyway is it likeley to fail by personal experince ?
[17:54] <eigba> I wonder if they plan on putting gnome 3 in the repos? probably not?
[17:54] <robin0800> Chilaquiles, its in the view menu
[17:54] <DasEi>  A_J: hard to predict, some people have trouble, the majority obvoiusly not, or the channel would be overcrowded from it
[17:54] <Dr_Willis> !fonts
[17:54] <arand> aperson: I'm not sure I know much more than you how to fix it at this point, I'm afraid..
[17:54] <kcin1> are there other repositories for ports apart from ports.ubuntu.com?
[17:54] <NyvenZA> what is the apt-get command to list for instance all the compiz packages that can be installed?
[17:54] <cablop> Chilaquiles dunno, maybe we don't have that issue, anyway try looking in the menus to see if you disable it by mistake or something
[17:54] <aperson> Dr_Willis⍈ hmm.. I just want to pass this function every line of this file as an argument
[17:54] <Chilaquiles> robin0800: I don't see anything in the view menu
[17:54] <aperson> arand⍈ thanks for the help
[17:54] <Jot> I would copy the text from terminal but it's impossible or I'm doing something terribly wrong
[17:55] <xangua> !gnome3 | eigba
[17:55] <A_J> ok thankyou ActionParsnip  and DasEi, will try
[17:55] <Jordan_U> aperson: You are misunderstanding. In the quoted case the entire file is being run as a sigle "command" (with no arguments, just treated as a file path)
[17:55] <Chilaquiles> cablop: I already did
[17:55] <A_J> !virualbox
[17:55] <DasEi>  A_J: ask if trouble
[17:55] <Browser> Hello
[17:55] <A_J> !virtualbox
[17:55] <rcmaehl> Ubuntu 11.04 definitely takes getting used to
[17:55] <lgp171188> Hi, I have gwibber accounts configured and working, memenu status is set to available but still there is no textbox to broadcast the status message. Any ways to get it working?
[17:55] <hanazuki_> how do i get raido tray working in ubuntu natty ?
[17:55] <A_J> yes DasEi ty
[17:55] <DasEi> :)
[17:55] <Browser> The server natty are off?
[17:55] <scorch2> i am insatlling 11.04  it has gotten to generating grub.cfg and has stopped.  my cpu has been pegged about 10min.  any ideas?
[17:55] <cablop> Chilaquiles: here it is called main toolbar, click it
[17:55] <rcmaehl> hanazuki_: radio tray?
[17:55] <Sree_> Hello all. Recent ubuntu user - a beginner here. I messed up installing Ubuntu on dell 610m laptop. The vista it came with it is gone and my wife wants it back with vista on it. Could somebody please help? I have the reinstallation DVD from Dell available...Thanks in advance
[17:55] <cablop> Chilaquiles: View > Main Toolbar check it
[17:55] <eigba> I think people comming from mac will enjoy 11.04 lol
[17:55] <Jot> rcmaehl: I typed 00 instead of ---
[17:55] <Ahmuck> i need help with unity
[17:55] <DasEi> Browser: natty is released, and can be d/l 'ed
[17:56] <Chilaquiles> cablop: It's already checked
[17:56] <rcmaehl> Jot: oh
[17:56] <TheHackOps> ActionParsnip, Downloading from the ppa since the deb package didn't work
[17:56] <hanazuki_> rcmaehl,  yes i upgraded from 10.10 to natty but now it wont start
[17:56] <rcmaehl> Jot: its' only 2 -
[17:56] <calrik> I really dont like the fact cant right click desktop to enable better desktop effects any more
[17:56] <robin0800> Chilaquiles, its the location bar
[17:56] <Ahmuck> how do you modify the top and side bar?
[17:56] <Jot> now it says it failed to get size of gamma
[17:56] <Ahmuck> preferences
[17:56] <rcmaehl> hanazuki_: was it removed in the update?
[17:56] <A_J> Sree_: use a partion manager, wipe the HDD clean, considering you have no data, and then install Vista
[17:56] <ActionParsnip> A_J: what if a drive motor fails, where is your data?
[17:56] <DasEi> !download | Browser
[17:56] <Browser> no DasEi
[17:56] <A_J> ActionParsnip: good Point..
[17:56] <cablop> Chilaquiles: try reloading window manager or logging off then in again... but it is a weird issue
[17:56] <Chilaquiles> robin0800: They are all checked
[17:56] <scorch2> i am insatlling 11.04  it has gotten to generating grub.cfg and has stopped.  my cpu has been pegged about 10min.  any ideas?
[17:56] <hanazuki_> rcmaehl,  oehh i cant confirm that
[17:56] <Ahmuck> i also need to change the resolution for the monitor, but can't find a resolution changer anywhere
[17:56] <aperson> Jordan_U⍈  http://pastie.org/1847865 is the relevant parts of the script
[17:56] <mastertogo> in Unity, is it possible to mouse in to other workspaces? e.g. when the mouse touches a screen edge, move into the next workspace in that direction?
[17:56] <eigba> Nothing wrong with a new desktop enviroment comming out, however they should put gnome 3 on the repo also
[17:57] <TheHackOps> A_J, in your head
[17:57] <Chilaquiles> cablop: I restarted Ubuntu and it didin't work
[17:57] <cablop> and i agree
[17:57] <A_J> ActionParsnip: i really don't understand how how to back up so much data, without going into Raid 0
[17:57] <Dr_Willis> Ahmuck:  under the 'power button' theres a menu item
[17:57] <hanazuki_> rcmaehl,  it says its installed
[17:57] <arand> Sree_: For reinstalling windows, see ##windows, but it's presumably just a matter of booting the CD...
[17:57] <Dr_Willis> Ahmuck:  dont ask me why they put it there.
[17:57] <Chilaquiles> cablop: I even Reinstalled nautilus
[17:57] <Browser> I cannot update the repository in Natty: I write: sudo apt-get update ...
[17:57] <ActionParsnip> A_J: you will be paying thosands for professional and non-garunteed data retrieval, contrast with a couple hundrd for some USB storages....
[17:57] <Sree_> A_J: Could you please help me on how to get the partition manager onto the machine with ubuntu?
[17:57] <xgt001> hey any1 getting good battery backup in natty?
[17:57] <cablop> MAc people would like new ubuntu's .... anyway mac users got used for OTHERS to decided what's the best for them
[17:57] <robin0800> Chilaquiles, try setting them off and then back on
[17:57] <Ahmuck> is there a way to make unity double wide?
[17:57] <ActionParsnip> A_J: raid 0 isn't needed, raid 0 gives spped, not capacity
[17:57] <A_J> Sree_: have you installed ubuntu and it is working ?
[17:57] <A_J> ActionParsnip: raid 1 my mistake
[17:57] <ceo> am have install wine and am need run ms office 2007
[17:57] <TheHackOps> Sree_, Search gpart in the software center
[17:58] <DasEi> Browser: ic, open synaptics, use find fastest server
[17:58] <Goliath> hey i just installed ubuntu. any must packages to get?
[17:58] <Chilaquiles> robin0800: nothing...
[17:58] <Nuge> Is it possible to force a recursive wget on a directory?
[17:58] <ceo> am have install wine and am need run ms office 2007  but have problem or error like this The file '/home/ceo/Desktop/Microsoft Office 2007 Enterprise/setup.exe' is not marked as executable.  If this was downloaded or copied from an untrusted source, it may be dangerous to run.  For more details, read about the executable bit. can helpp
[17:58] <A_J> TheHackOps: he can't wipe his OS clean with that
[17:58] <eigba> Maybe there will be a new forked named Gubuntu? with gnome? lol
[17:58] <eigba> fork*
[17:58] <xgt001> hey any1 getting good battery backup in natty
[17:58] <DasEi> Browser: you can ping all repos under sources
[17:58] <TheHackOps> A_J, Lies...
[17:58] <mastertogo> in Unity, is it possible to mouse in to other workspaces? e.g. when the mouse touches a screen edge, move into the next workspace in that direction?
[17:58] <ActionParsnip> A_J: I just found some 3Tb NAS for 120 GBP, pretty cheap. Is your data worth that?
[17:58] <Dr_Willis> Goliath:  http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/04/10-things-to-do-after-installing-ubuntu-11-04/
[17:58] <ceo> ActionParsnip, am have install wine and am need run ms office 2007  but have problem or error like this The file '/home/ceo/Desktop/Microsoft Office 2007 Enterprise/setup.exe' is not marked as executable.  If this was downloaded or copied from an untrusted source, it may be dangerous to run.  For more details, read about the executable bit. can helpp
[17:58] <cablop> ceo mark it as executable, via Nautilus or chmod
[17:58] <scorch2> i am installing 11.04  it has gotten to generating grub.cfg and down to found /boot/memtest.bin and has stopped.  my cpu has been pegged about 15min.  any ideas?
[17:58] <predy> ceo openoffice is free
[17:58] <TheHackOps> A_J, Jking
[17:58] <bleach> hi guys, I'm trying to record from my webcam using vlc. I managed to set up the video capture specifying the name of the device /dev/video1 but I'm not sure which is the name of the audio device, can anyone please help me get it?
[17:58] <aperson> mastertogo⍈ should be able to set it in ccsm
[17:58] <Sree_> A_J: Yes.
[17:58] <TheHackOps> Sree_, Boot into a live CD
[17:58] <ActionParsnip> ceo: chmod +x home/ceo/Desktop/Microsoft Office 2007 Enterprise/setup.exe; wine home/ceo/Desktop/Microsoft Office 2007 Enterprise/setup.exe
[17:58] <ceo> predy, openoffice bad and not good
[17:59] <robin0800> Chilaquiles, then i am out of ideas then it works ok here
[17:59] <Dr_Willis> ceo:  or do from command line 'wine /path/to/installer.exe'
[17:59] <Chilaquiles> robin0800: the last thing I did was try to install nautilus Elementary but it didin't work
[17:59] <Browser> DasEi: fail too
[17:59] <mastertogo> aperson, ccsm?
[17:59] <Jordan_U> aperson: Why are you using bash -c instead of just running the command?
[17:59] <Goliath> Dr_Willis: ty
[17:59] <ActionParsnip> !appdb | ceo may want to check compatibility too
[17:59] <cablop> ceo, anyway, office 2007 will give you some trouble to run on wine, try a virtual machine instead
[17:59] <eigba> Im comming from Arch linux, this channel moves fast lol
[17:59] <Sree_> I considered wiping the drive clean but did not know how to get it in ? as a package in itself ? via usb? Thanks again.
[17:59] <ceo> oke thanks ActionParsnip and am will try you step Dr_Willis