[00:00] <gnychis> how do you determine if you have USB 2.0 or 1.0?
[00:00] <Pelo> Falling-Inferno, all videos or just the one ?
[00:00] <SDmas> hey
[00:00] <Daisuke_Ido> Pelo, and what DE does edubuntu use?
[00:00] <crazytalk_> unop_, i did a cp -a /home/olduser /home/newuser and my hdd churned for about 5 minutes, but now when i compare the contents of each dir they do not match
[00:00] <Pelo> Daisuke_Ido, de ?
[00:00] <nickrud> invertedtwisted hardy has the latest ati drivers .... Why are you doing the manual install?
[00:00] <Falling-Inferno> All videos that are flash and that i stream over the internet
[00:00] <ari_stress> Pelo: thanks, how about the apt-get's sources.list? should I change it?
[00:00] <Daisuke_Ido> Pelo, desktop environment
[00:00] <Invisionfree> unop_: You here
[00:00] <Pelo> ari_stress, no , same repos
[00:00] <Daisuke_Ido> ari_stress, you don't need to change anything, it's already there
[00:00] <Pelo> Daisuke_Ido, I don't know , sorry
[00:00] <unop__> crazytalk_, well, if the directory you copied stuff into already had files and directories, obviously they won't match
[00:01] <unop__> Invisionfree, aye
[00:01] <ari_stress> Daisuke_Ido: waw that's great!!
[00:01] <Daisuke_Ido> Pelo, it uses gnome :)
[00:01] <Invisionfree> unop_: I chrooted and did passwd -u lee and passwd -l root, I still can't log in as lee.
[00:01] <Daisuke_Ido> getting rid of it would be bad
[00:01] <crazytalk_> sap, i'd be very shocked if you didn't find a fix, i am a noob with alot to learn, but so far these linux guys seem to have thought of everything to match what windows does, or do it better
[00:01] <invertedtwisted> nickrud, just enabling through the restricted drivers thing always resulted in ubuntu not starting properly and having to start in safe graphics mode.
[00:01] <Pelo> Daisuke_Ido, I actualy meant getting rid of ubuntu-desktop
[00:02] <Falling-Inferno> Pelo how would i go about reinstalling firefox flash plugins or actually unistalling them?
[00:02] <crazytalk_> unop__, no but there are single files not even in dirs in /home/olderuser, but there are no files like this in /home/newuser
[00:02] <Daisuke_Ido> which could still cause problems
[00:02] <Orbixx|Mob> Guys. F6 doesn't work when booting from the hard disk.
[00:02] <Fishscene> Falling-Inferno, wouldn't you unisntall/reinstall using the package manager?
[00:02] <Pelo> Falling-Inferno, open synaptic,  in the admin menu , search for flashplugin-nonfree
[00:02] <nickrud> invertedtwisted put a copy of your current /var/log/Xorg.0.log on http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[00:02] <Orbixx|Mob> It just says "Loading" then  blank.
[00:02] <crazytalk_> unop__, it's also missing the dirs and in fact i can't see one thing it has copied, i'm viewing from inside the gui, perhaps a restart is required?
[00:03] <Falling-Inferno> But it happened this way i think is because i downloaded the .swf player plugin as well as the Adobe Flash plugin.
[00:03] <nickrud> Orbixx|Mob when you see grub loading during boot up, hit escape to see boot menu (if you don't already) then select your regular boot, and hit e
[00:03] <sap> crazytalk_, i dont mean to ignite a debate here ..but when i started usin linux some months ago.. i also had a similar view.. Now having used it for variety of needs , I feel that there are some things that linux still cant match with windows.
[00:03] <Pelo> Falling-Inferno, reinstalling from synaptic will probably take care of it
[00:03] <unop__> crazytalk_, try it again .. this time do this..    cp -avR /src /dest
[00:03] <_tpp_> I've found that the EDID information from my monitor is screwed up, and I need to disable the driver using it. I can see how to do this for nvidia drivers but how can I do it for the (newer) intel driver?
[00:04] <crazytalk_> unop__, aye aye, ty
[00:04] <Orbixx|Mob> Yeah. I try putting the parameters in there. But it hangs at a blinking cursor.
[00:04] <Orbixx|Mob> Syntax error, my side?
[00:04]  * Pelo looks at sap and thinks of the word traitor
[00:04] <Invisionfree> unop_: I've done sudo mount /dev/hda1 /mnt and sudo chroot /mnt, now what do I need to do?
[00:04] <dsmith_> whats the best methods to increase ext3 perfomrance?
[00:05] <unop__> Invisionfree,  passwd -u <username>
[00:05]  * sap tells Pelo that he's not a traitor , rather a realistic person
[00:05] <Falling-Inferno> Pelo it wasn't installed.
[00:05] <unop__> InspectorCluseau, passwd -l root
[00:05] <Invisionfree> unop_: I did that.
[00:05] <dsmith_> is journal data writeback a safe option?
[00:05]  * nickrud laughs at Pelo's chauvinism
[00:05] <crazytalk_> unop__: before i key in that command, i just noticed the two dir match exactly in file size...
[00:05] <Invisionfree> unop_: I still couldn't log in, how do I change the password for <username>
[00:05] <unop__> crazytalk_, this might be better.   rsync -av /src/  /dest/
[00:05] <Pelo> Falling-Inferno, you probably installed from the adobe site package, the package in the repos should be made specificaly for ubuntu
[00:05] <invertedtwisted> nickrud, I think http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/63365/ should show you it, if I did it right. Thanks very much, but I have to go, if you could post any wisdom on the thread that would be brilliant. Thanks so much.
[00:05] <Orbixx|Mob> Nickrud, scroll up?
[00:06] <crazytalk_> unop__: *nods*
[00:06]  * CorbinFox enjoys using the /me function in IRC.  also, i have yet to find a daily use need for windows that i can't do just as well in linux
[00:06] <nickrud> Orbixx|Mob you should be removing parameters,  quiet splash not adding any
[00:06] <Orbixx|Mob> That too.
[00:06] <Orbixx|Mob> It still hangs.
[00:06] <pen> is there a script or app to convert encoding?
[00:06] <unop__> Invisionfree, are you sure you are issuing 'passwd -u <user>' within the chroot, because if you aren't then the changes aren't going to be permanent
[00:07] <teddy> i install some web php applications like webcalendar or any php web program..I expected to see it in /var/www/localhost..but they get installed in /usr/share  . do i have to manually make a symbolic link for every program i install?
[00:07] <Pelo> pen, what kind of encoding ?
[00:07] <unop__> Invisionfree, to test whether you are indeed in the chroot.  grep -in <username>  /etc/passwd
[00:07] <Invisionfree> unop_: root@ubuntu:/# passwd -u lee
[00:07] <Invisionfree> Password changed.
[00:07] <pen> Pelo: I downloaded a picture with chinese characters, but in nautilus it says invalid encoding and the filename is unreadable
[00:08] <Invisionfree> unop__: 27:lee:x:1000:1000:Lee Merriman,,,:/home/lee:/bin/bash
[00:08] <pen> Pelo: how to convert the filename encoding to other?
[00:08] <unop__> Invisionfree, grep -in lee /etc/shadow
[00:08] <Pelo> pen, try opening it in the gimp and saving it under a different name and format
[00:09] <Traveler8> ok I have look at about everything and cant find a driver people telling me how to create one ( I have no Ideal howw to even start it) butI have the windows driver and I want to install it but I am a idiot here trying ubuntu can someone please help
[00:09] <crazytalk_> unop__: within a second i got the output: building file list ... done * sent 90496 bytes  received 20 bytes  60344.00 bytes/sec * total size is<PHONE_NUMBER>6  speedup is 221317.84 *** but the files still aren't visible
[00:09] <orbixx-livecd> sorry nickrud - disconnected
[00:09] <pen> Pelo: in windows there is a program called Convertz used for converting the encoding of the filenames or content
[00:09] <orbixx-livecd> did you mention anything else?
[00:09] <pen> Pelo: is there any program in linux able to do taht?
[00:09] <Falling-Inferno> Pelo
[00:09] <Pelo> pen, can't you open the file wint gimp ?
[00:09] <pen> Pelo: I want to know the original chinese filename
[00:09] <Pelo> with
[00:09] <Falling-Inferno> Here....http://img170.imageshack.us/img170/4350/screenshothew6.png
[00:09] <unop__> crazytalk_, verify using ls..   ls -l ,*
[00:09] <pen> Pelo: I don't want to save it in english
[00:09] <_roanth_> leave
[00:09] <nickrud> orbixx-livecd just that you should be disabling the quiet splash, and not adding anything
[00:09] <Falling-Inferno> This is my problem look at the placement....
[00:09] <pen> Pelo: you dont' get my point
[00:09] <orbixx-livecd> yeah
[00:10] <Invisionfree> unop__: 27:lee:$1$Xvr/G4Cw$Pl1ghd0YEhnXaZd/WraQl/:13969:0:99999:7:::
[00:10] <orbixx-livecd> I tried to mention
[00:10] <orbixx-livecd> That I had already tried that, nickrud.
[00:10] <Pelo> pen, I don'T know of one,  try doing a search in synaptic, in the admin menu
[00:10] <orbixx-livecd> It still hung at a blinking cursor.
[00:10] <nickrud> inverted, where'd you go!!
[00:10] <orbixx-livecd> There was only a line with "splash" on it.
[00:10] <pen> Pelo: ok
[00:10] <orbixx-livecd> No "quiet".
[00:10] <dubby> kde or gnome?
[00:10] <nickrud> orbixx-livecd try using the vesa driver, should get you a  screen
[00:11] <unop__> Invisionfree, now test lee's password out.   type  login   and  try logging in
[00:11] <cabrioleur> Is there a chat camera balance adjustment somewhere?
[00:11] <orbixx-livecd> xdrvr=vesa ?
[00:11] <Traveler8> someone throw me a rope where I can  hang my self and then shoot me in the head and call me sallie
[00:11] <orbixx-livecd> just add that onto a line?
[00:11] <Invisionfree> unop__: Unable to determine your tty name.
[00:11] <Pelo> cabrioleur, check in your chat app's prefs
[00:11] <Pelo> Falling-Inferno, I don'T allow private msg, please talk to me in the channel
[00:11] <CorbinFox> does anyone in here have experience using a Wacom Cintiq in Ubuntu?
[00:12] <nickrud> orbixx-livecd I'm parrotting what I've seen other people do with those, never owned one.    sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg , choose vesa as the driver and a reasonable res that won't stress your monitor
[00:12] <crazytalk_> unop__, it has copied the whole olduser dir, including the dir itself, into olduser
[00:12] <Traveler8>  does anyone know how to install drivers???
[00:12] <Traveler8> convert drivers
[00:12] <Pelo> Traveler8,  load it into modprobe,
[00:12] <cabrioleur> Pelo, i need in Skype. Ekiga does have it, but...
[00:13] <Pelo> Traveler8, what kind of drivers ?
[00:13]  * nickrud wonders if he even has a forum login
[00:13] <orbixx-livecd> nickrud: The strange thing is, the system does not actually boot.
[00:13] <Traveler8> wynex wireless drivers
[00:13] <orbixx-livecd> I get no login screen sound.
[00:13] <Invisionfree> unop__: Did you see that?
[00:13] <unop__> Invisionfree, do this. reset root   passwd -l root   and then log on as lee   sudo -u lee   then try using some command with sudo. something like    sudo sh -c "echo test"
[00:13] <orbixx-livecd> Keyboard action at a login screen does nothing.
[00:13] <Traveler8> (0dynex
[00:13] <unop__> crazytalk_, well, is that what you wanted?
[00:13] <Traveler8> dynex
[00:13] <nickrud> orbixx-livecd booting and getting the gui login are not the same, does clt-alt-f2 get you a login?
[00:13] <crazytalk_> unop__, it has copied the whole olduser dir, including the dir itself, into newuser (edited this line)
[00:13] <Pelo> Traveler8, linux driver ? unpack the archive and check for a readme or install file in it
[00:13] <orbixx-livecd> nickrud: No.
[00:13] <nickrud> orbixx-livecd or alt-f2.
[00:14] <Invisionfree> unop__: sudo -u lee didn't work, it gives me the usage: stuff
[00:14] <orbixx-livecd> nickrud: My USB devices get activated.
[00:14] <crazytalk_> unop__, no because it has placed the actual dir olduser, inside newsuer. i want olduser to *become newuser
[00:14] <Flannel> Invisionfree: it's sudo -u lee [command[
[00:14] <nickrud> orbixx-livecd when you boot regularly, do you get any output at all on the screen?
[00:15] <orbixx-livecd> nickrud: Only the first bit.
[00:15] <Invisionfree> unop__: Did you mean sudo -u lee login ?
[00:15] <orbixx-livecd> nickrud: Ummm.
[00:15] <nickrud> orbixx-livecd what first bit??
[00:15] <orbixx-livecd> nickrud: Text at the bottom saying booting.
[00:15] <orbixx-livecd> Then at the top
[00:15] <orbixx-livecd> Saying loading.
[00:15] <orbixx-livecd> Then blank.
[00:15] <Traveler8> I have the cd and ther is a inf file I have been trying to install
[00:15] <FloodBot1> orbixx-livecd: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:15] <unop__> Invisionfree, sudo -s -u lee
[00:15] <CorbinFox> does anyone in here have experience using a Wacom Cintiq in Ubuntu?
[00:15] <peepsalot> what do i need to do to get flash working on 64bit ubuntu?
[00:15] <Pelo> !wifi > Traveler8 check for a private message windows with instructions from ubotu
[00:15] <LadyNikon> anyone using gdesklets and can help me configuring a launcher bar to accept lowered applications like gnomebar?
[00:16] <Invisionfree> unop__: I'm logged in as lee now
[00:16] <Pelo> LadyNikon, isn'T the gnomebar also a launcher ?
[00:16] <LadyNikon> Pelo: i dont like the gnomebar
[00:16] <LadyNikon> and it only uses 5 apps
[00:16] <teddy> i install some web php applications like webcalendar or any php web program..I expected to see it in /var/www/localhost..but they get installed in /usr/share  . do i have to manually make a symbolic link for every program i install?
[00:16] <Invisionfree> unop__: sudo sh -c "echo test" and typing in my password didn't work, it says Sorry, try again.
[00:16] <unop__> crazytalk_, i'm not sure what you have done there .. but why don't you just backup newuser   mv  newuser newuser.bak   and then    cp -avR  olduser  newuser
[00:16] <LadyNikon> Pelo: i also deleted my bottom bar and cant get it back heh.  So i would like to have something..
[00:17] <orbixx-livecd> Whoops.
[00:17] <orbixx-livecd> nickrud: It's the same case when booting from the live cd with the default boot parameters.
[00:17] <nickrud> orbixx-livecd in the livecd, mount the hard drive and edit <mountpoint>/boot/grub/menu.lst . Look for the line beginning with kernel and having the word splash in it, remove splash and quiet. You should get a ton of text.
[00:17] <Traveler> sorry I dont know what happend
[00:17] <nickrud> orbixx-livecd on the next boot
[00:17] <flaco> hey all... I'm using compiz fusion... in settings of the effects... they use the <super> key... but... I don't have that key.... how can I set the Fn (laptop key) to replace the super key?
[00:17] <LadyNikon> Pelo: i want a more osx look
[00:17] <unop__> Invisionfree, i'm not really sure what is going on there -- are you absolutely positive that you changed lee's password with passwd
[00:17] <prince_jammys> wh4rt0N1-
[00:17] <acomaco> My Media player extension does not have a GUI, i can't higher or lower the volyme..
[00:17] <Pelo> LadyNikon,  if you want to get the botom pannel back that is easy ,  right click on the top panel select "new panel"   then drag it to the bottom , you can add applets to it by right clicking on it and selecting "add to panel"
[00:17] <orbixx-livecd> nickrud: Excuse my inexperience.
[00:17] <unop__> Invisionfree, you could try passwd (as lee) again
[00:18] <orbixx-livecd> nickrud: But how does one mount a volume?
[00:18] <Pelo> LadyNikon, try avant-window-navigator
[00:18] <LadyNikon> Pelo: i did that.. but it didnt accept the lowered apps
[00:18] <LadyNikon> so they just disappeared.
[00:18] <Invisionfree> Uh oh unop__, "passwd: Module is unknown" "passwd: password unchanged"
[00:18] <LadyNikon> flaco: double click on that effect
[00:18] <orbixx-livecd> nickrud: Nevermind, it automatically mounted in the Live CD.
[00:18]  * orbixx-livecd edits.
[00:18] <Pelo> LadyNikon,  what is it that you call "lowered apps"
[00:18] <crazytalk_> unop__, can i skip the backup of newuser, there's nothing in newuser home dir, i just reinstalled ubuntu
[00:18] <nickrud> orbixx-livecd what partition did you install linux to? once you know that, you would do    sudo mount /dev/<partition> /mnt  , then you'll see it at /mnt/boot/grub/menu.lst
[00:18] <LadyNikon> Pelo: when you lower an app.
[00:18] <Traveler> so with the note pad file Ican write my own driver if I copy and paste it into ubuntu
[00:19] <flaco> LadyNikon: and... ?
[00:19] <LadyNikon> Pelo: minimize a window
[00:19] <mneptok> LadyNikon: "minimize?"
[00:19] <Pelo> LadyNikon,  you I think you mean minimized and you need to add the "window list" to the bar to get that
[00:19] <Flannel> Invisionfree: Are you trying to change the password of the user?
[00:19] <LadyNikon> Pelo: couldnt think of the stupid word to save my life
[00:19] <Invisionfree> Yes flannel.
[00:19] <Flannel> Invisionfree: sudo passwd username
[00:19] <colR> hi
[00:19] <aiaidevil> hello
[00:19] <LadyNikon> Pelo: can that be added to the launcher in gdesklet hmm
[00:20]  * Pelo wonders if LadyNikon 's life is forteith now
[00:20] <aiaidevil> I have some question
[00:20] <FP> For some reason, my volume is extremely low in Ubtuntu (yes i've checked the sound panel)
[00:20] <Invisionfree> Flannel: I can't, I don't have sudo password, Flannel, my user password and sudo password have been messed up since I tried to install ldap
[00:20] <LadyNikon> flaco: then doublt click on that key to change it
[00:20] <orbixx-livecd> nickrud: Right. Edited - wish me luck.
[00:20] <FotoPhocus> Can anyone help? :-/
[00:20] <bbyever> !justask | aiaidevil
[00:20] <ubotu> aiaidevil: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[00:20] <Pelo> LadyNikon, as far as I know the launcher bar is just a launcher bar,  it'sdoes not display open apps
[00:20] <Flannel> Invisionfree: then you wouldn't be able to do the previous sudo either.  Reboot into recovery console (at GRUB menu) and you can do it.  Simply 'passwd user'
[00:20] <aiaidevil> !justask
[00:21] <colR> have a problem: when i resume from suspend or hibernate media playback is knackered - ogg video plays at about 2 fps and sound fails entirely. any ideas?
[00:21] <unop__> Invisionfree, try this -- as root tho --  sudo apt-get install --reinstall passwd
[00:21] <LadyNikon> Pelo: hmm.. i saw it on a youtube.. its a way to make it look mroe like osx
[00:21] <Invisionfree> Flannel: That doesn't work, it asks me to log in anyway ..
[00:21] <Invisionfree> unop__: How do I bet back to root?
[00:21] <LadyNikon> aiaidevil: it means jsut ask your question if someone can help you they will.. if not try the forums
[00:21] <flaco> LadyNikon: yeah... but the Fn key is not recognize...
[00:21] <Invisionfree> unop__: Nevermind, got "exit"
[00:21] <Fade2Black> would it be better for me to wait for the new version of ubuntu or install 7.10 and just upgrade when it comes out
[00:21] <MrMist> I can't play realmedia files i mplayer :(
[00:22] <LadyNikon> flaco: ah .. i thought you said " a fn" sorry
[00:22] <bbyever> Fade2Black: just wait for the new release
[00:22] <DefineKThyne> Hey there, I'm in an Ubuntu live CD session and trying to resize my hard disk partitions so I can dual part, but GParted can't find my hard disk. Any ideas?
[00:22] <Flannel> Invisionfree: Then you've magically set yourself a root password.  You'll need a liveCD to change your passwd file
[00:22] <Pelo> LadyNikon,  I woudlnT' know , see if the poster on youtube as a contact email and ask him/her
[00:22] <dman92> messing with bash, wondering how i can join two strings? like string1 + string2 = string1string2
[00:22] <aiaidevil> I've run Ubuntu's LiveCD on my powerful laptop. I cannot enable those cool graphic effects. Does it mean I will not be able to enable them if I install Ubuntu in my PC?
[00:22] <FotoPhocus> For some reason, my volume is extremely low in Ubtuntu (yes i've checked the sound panel).  Can anyone help?
[00:22] <Dartrunner> Trying to use VMWare Server 2.0 and a release note says "On Ubuntu, you must enable the root account by specifying a root password in order to use VMware Server." How is this done?
[00:22] <Invisionfree> unop__: Same error after I do that..
[00:22] <unop__> Flannel, he's on a live CD
[00:22] <Pelo> FotoPhocus, open a terminal  type alsamixer and put all the sliders up
[00:23] <Fishscene> aiaidevil, it means you probably don't have the proper driver being used. An install will allow you to choose and install the proper driver
[00:23] <unop__> Invisionfree, see this - http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/linux-newbie/115700-passwd-module-unknown.html
[00:23] <colR> anyone?
[00:23] <aiaidevil> Ok, so how do I check the right driver for my PC?
[00:23] <Pelo> colR, anyone what ?
[00:23] <Invisionfree> unop__: I think the problem is I don't have all the PAM modules .. :x
[00:23] <Pelo> aiaidevil, more details
[00:23] <LadyNikon> aiaidevil: check your hardware specs
[00:24] <colR> Pelo: when i resume from suspend or hibernate media playback is knackered - ogg video plays at about 2 fps and sound fails entirely. any ideas?
[00:24] <aiaidevil> ok
[00:24] <aiaidevil> in Graphic Cards?
[00:24] <neclimdul> i've been playing with the beta and the other day something broke.
[00:24] <unop__> Invisionfree, or you have the PAM modules but they aren't configured right
[00:24] <FotoPhocus> Pelo: Didn't seem to make a difference.  I have my speakers cranked, and can barely hear anything still
[00:24] <neclimdul> now it keeps telling me to "fix the broken packages" before the update program can run
[00:24] <LadyNikon> aiaidevil: which card?
[00:24] <Orbixx|Mob> nickrud: It worked. However, my login session ends instantly after  in.
[00:24] <Invisionfree> unop__: If there was a script I used that worked fine on Debian Etch, should they work fine on Ubuntu server?
[00:24] <unop__> Invisionfree, see what the guy says about the /etc/pam,d/passwd file - make sure yours tallies up somewhat
[00:24] <Orbixx|Mob> Logging in*
[00:24] <aiaidevil> I've got ATI Radeon Xpress with 256 Mb of RAM
[00:25] <Pelo> colR, not realy,  suspend/hibernate is tempermental in ubuntu still, it is suppose to be much better in hardy , if you can'T wait two weeks,  try researching it in the forum www.ubuntuforums.org
[00:25] <neclimdul> but i can't figure it out. anyone know what is going on?
[00:25] <LadyNikon> !ati | aiaidevil
[00:25] <ubotu> aiaidevil: For Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[00:25] <Invisionfree> unop__: "do u have "passwd" file in /etc/pam.d with the following contents:"?
[00:25] <dman92> FotoPhocus: seems obvious, but are your speakers plugged all the way in?
[00:25] <Pelo> FotoPhocus, check the plug , sounds silly but if it is not all the way in ....
[00:25] <FotoPhocus> Pelo:  Yup, I did check that
[00:25] <nickrud> Orbixx|Mob this is where you need to get the nvidia driver from the nvidia web site. You can get to this point after you've gotten the file and install it
[00:25] <unop__> Invisionfree, there is no guarantee that the script will work - there is no 100% compatibility with debian executables on ubuntu
[00:25] <Itaku> where can i get more screen savers?
[00:25] <Pelo> FotoPhocus, tried different audio /video files I assume ?
[00:25] <colR> Pelo: thanks, tried the forums. i'll wait for hh i guess
[00:26] <skarface> Itaku: gnome-look.org
[00:26] <FotoPhocus> Pelo:  Yup, have tried audio and video from my desktop, as well as stuff on the web
[00:26] <Dartrunner> Trying to use VMWare Server 2.0 and a release note says "On Ubuntu, you must enable the root account by specifying a root password in order to use VMware Server." How is this done?
[00:26] <Pelo> FotoPhocus, from scratch then
[00:26] <unop__> Invisionfree, mine just says - @include common-password
[00:26] <Invisionfree> unop__: My /etc/pam.d/passwd file just says @Inclue common-passworld, is that bad?
[00:26] <Orbixx|Mob> Ok.
[00:26] <Pelo> !sound > FotoPhocus check for a private message windows with instructions from ubotu
[00:26] <Fishscene> Dartrunner, use "sudo"
[00:26] <v3trae> So i'm having trouble with my sound card. The only program it will work in is Amarok. I've gone through some different sites with how to configure my card directly and i'm having no luck, i'm getting very confused on where to even go from here. I'm using a Creative Sound Blaster LIVE! external USB sound card. Any ideas would be wonderful.
[00:27] <dman92> Dartrunner: yeah, you don't need to enable the root account.
[00:27] <aiaidevil> Your page doesn't work
[00:27] <Pelo> FotoPhocus,  you are aware that in alsamixer there are a lot more sliders then the first 6 you seen in the original screen ?  keep arrowing to the right ,  there are about 15-20
[00:27] <DarkJustice> Can anyone tell me what I might need to d/l to get Totem to play a dvd. I have a movie I purchased that works great in Winblows, but when I try to play it in Totem it says it can't read from the source
[00:27] <Dartrunner> I have tried using it but it won't let me log in on the web interface
[00:27] <CorbinFox> does anyone in here have experience using a Wacom Cintiq in Ubuntu?  Kinda an expensive/rare thing to ask about, but still, over a 1000 people i may get lucky
[00:27] <Pelo> aiaidevil, start by checking in the system > admin Menu , in restricted drivers
[00:27] <Fishscene> DarkJustice, you need to install the "ugly" Media packages
[00:27] <Fishscene> I think that's the proper term
[00:28] <FotoPhocus> Pelo: Yup, I bumped em all up to see if it would make a difference.  Maybe I'll wait and do a fresh install of HH when it comes out, and see if it still persists
[00:28] <kriel> Is there a way to reset or refresh my gnome session without closing everything, then logging out and back in?
[00:28] <aiaidevil> oh, your page works, sorry I've mispelled
[00:28] <bastid_raZor> !dvd | DarkJustice
[00:28] <ubotu> DarkJustice: For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at !Medibuntu or (for Feisty and earlier) http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[00:28] <neclimdul> nm, just found the "fix broken packages" option
[00:28] <Pelo> CorbinFox, ask the actual question , maybe someone can answer
[00:28] <dman92> CorbinFox: well, i use my tablet pc w/ built in wacom just fine. uncomment the three lines ibn xorg.conf to get it to work
[00:28] <crazytalk_> unop__: after i did the cp -avR olduser newuser my terminal has stopped outputting text and i get the line (arg: 3) but no command prompt
[00:28] <CorbinFox> Well, i am asking more for just general experiences, not a particular issue with it.  I suppose not really a support question tho...
[00:29] <colR> i had trouble with my sound card, but it seemed to sort itself out when i activated the asla utils in system>administration>services. if anyone's interested :)
[00:29] <DefineKThyne> Hey there, I'm in an Ubuntu live CD session and trying to resize my hard disk partitions so I can dual part, but GParted can't find my hard disk. Any ideas?
[00:29] <Itaku> when i install a downloaded theme how do i install it?
[00:29] <Fishscene> Can the GUI be restarted with the command "sudo xserver restart"?
[00:29]  * unop__ is not having a good night tonight
[00:29] <dman92> CorbinFox: well, just thought i would throw in my experience w/ wacom
[00:29] <Pelo> DefineKThyne,  when you say can'T find, do you mean it takes a long time to scan or can'T find at all ?  cause if it takes a while that happens
[00:29] <dman92> Fishscene: ctr-alt-bksp
[00:29] <Fishscene> ah ok
[00:29] <basso> wacom..
[00:30]  * colR pats unop__ on the shoulder
[00:30] <FotoPhocus> colR: after you enabled it, where did you have to go to mess with the new settings?
[00:30] <Pelo> Fishscene, ctrl alt backspace
[00:30] <Itaku> when i install a downloaded theme how do i install it?
[00:30] <SaEeDIRHA> hello
[00:30] <dman92> Itaku: drag it into the theme selector
[00:30] <crazytalk_> unop___, also now i have the dir /home/newuser, with the dirs newuser and olduser inside it :(
[00:30] <SaEeDIRHA> how can i make my font bigger size in ubuntu bash ?
[00:30] <Fishscene> Pelo: Thanks
[00:30] <Pelo> Itaku,  open the theme manager windows and drag drop the tar.gz file in it
[00:30] <Dartrunner> Fishscene, How do you use sudo in the web interface to login?
[00:30] <colR> FP: just rebooted and no worries since. fingers crossed... it was only yesterday
[00:30] <Elevator_Hazard> Itaku use the System -> Preferences -> Appearance
[00:30] <dman92> SaEeDIRHA: right click, edit current profile, there are font options
[00:31] <SaEeDIRHA> no
[00:31] <FotoPhocus> colR: Ah okay, had to reboot to see the chagne?
[00:31] <SaEeDIRHA> i want it in commaand line
[00:31] <unop__> Invisionfree, it beats me really -- i can;t find anything useful on the net and i cant think of anything else that might be wrong..  you could try these two commands and see if they work - it takes about half-an-hour to complete tho --  sudo aptitude install $(dpkg -l | cut -c 3-30); sudo dpkg-reconfigure -a
[00:31] <Pelo> SaEeDIRHA, check in edit , curent profile
[00:31] <SaEeDIRHA> cuz i have no graphical access
[00:31] <colR> yup, services are run at boot
[00:31] <Pelo> DefineKThyne, I don'T allow private msg, please talk to me in the channel
[00:31] <Fishscene> Dartrunner, not sure.. I might have misread something
[00:31] <Itaku> it says the file format is invalid
[00:31] <FotoPhocus> k, brb then
[00:31] <SaEeDIRHA> i SSHed to mu unbuntu
[00:31] <DefineKThyne> Pelo:like i open up GParted and  it says "no devices detected"
[00:31] <Itaku> Pelo: it says the file format is invalid
[00:31] <Pelo> DefineKThyne, hmm,   open a terminal window and type blkid
[00:31] <unop__> crazytalk_, i;m not convinced you ran the command as i asked you to .. newuser was not supposed to exit, it was supposed to be renamed to newuser.bak
[00:32] <Elevator_Hazard> I want to install GAG, I think I can figure out how to install it but I need to have Grub installed somewhere to boot linux... Where do I install grub to if the boot partition of this harddrive (external by the way) will be used by GAG?
[00:32] <unop__> s/exit/exist/
[00:32] <v3trae> So i'm having trouble with my sound card. The only program it will work in is Amarok. I've gone through some different sites with how to configure my card directly and i'm having no luck, i'm getting very confused on where to even go from here. I'm using a Creative Sound Blaster LIVE! external USB sound card. When i try to run alsamixer i get alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No Such Device. I am extremely baffle
[00:32] <dman92> SaEeDIRHA: the font size is in the terminal you are sshing from, not the destination
[00:32] <crazytalk_> unop___, i have been running all the exact commands you asked me
[00:32] <Pelo> Itaku, it is a desktop theme or a gdm theme or something else ?
[00:32] <DefineKThyne> Pelo: it does nothing
[00:32] <SaEeDIRHA> dman29: so how can i change it ?
[00:32] <Dartrunner> Fishscene,  Trying to use VMWare Server 2.0 and a release note says "On Ubuntu, you must enable the root account by specifying a root password in order to use VMware Server." How is this done?
[00:33] <SaEeDIRHA> i have seen in a video tutorial tha it was possible with "usetfont" command
[00:33] <Pelo> Itaku, sometimes the theme maker repack them to include instrutions and stuff, try unpacking it once,  (right click , extract here ) in the folder see if there is another tar.gz file drag drop that one
[00:33] <SaEeDIRHA> but i cannot find in ubuntu
[00:33] <Level52> Hi. I tried moving partitions around by taring/untaring the contents. Now the kernel seems to boot ok but then it says "mount: Mounting /dev/sda5 on /root failed: no such device". Can anyone help me solve this problem?
[00:33] <Pelo> DefineKThyne, hmm what kind of hdd ?
[00:33] <unop__> crazytalk_, make sure newuser is backed up..  mv newuser  newuser.bak   and then check if it really exists .. once you have done that ..   cp -avR olduser newuser
[00:33] <Dartrunner> Fishscene, This is the 2.0 Beta not the 1.5 release version
[00:33] <unop__> crazytalk_, remember, newuser should not exist prior to the cp command
[00:33] <crazytalk_> i told you i don't need to backup, i just installed ubuntu, there is no data in newuser
[00:33] <Fishscene> Dartrunner. I think I get it.  I haven't really looked
[00:34] <crazytalk_> newuser = crazytalk
[00:34] <Pelo> Level52, copy the content of /home to another partititon and clean install
[00:34] <SaEeDIRHA> anyone got an idea?
[00:34] <Fishscene> Dartrunner, this might be more suited for  #VMware. However, have you tried running the installer using the sudo command?
[00:34] <squeakypants> i put an nvidia card in my AGP slot
[00:34] <Pelo> DefineKThyne, I know some sata drives have issues but I don'T have anymore info
[00:34] <Level52> Pelo: that's what I tought. /home is pretty much empty but I'd like to know how to repair this ;)
[00:34] <squeakypants> is there a way to dual monitor using both the nvidia card and intel extreme graphics (integrated)
[00:35] <Dartrunner> Fishscene, No, it is installed, I used sudo for that, now I am trying to log into the VMware server
[00:35] <DefineKThyne> pelo: it's IDE and master/slave pin selector thingy would mess with that
[00:35] <Elevator_Hazard> I want to install GAG, while on ubuntu,  I think I can figure out how to install it but I need to have Grub installed somewhere to boot linux... Where do I install grub to if the boot partition of this harddrive (external by the way) will be used by GAG?
[00:35] <Dr_willis> squeakypants,  i belive its doable.. but may take some work.
[00:35] <Level52> I have quite a bit of Linux experience from Gentoo but this puzzles me
[00:35] <dman92> Dartrunner: why not just sudo apt-get install vmware-server?
[00:35] <squeakypants> dr_willis: what kind of work?:)
[00:35] <unop__> Level52, is this a fatal error or just a warning?
[00:35] <Fishscene> Dartrunner, are you using your username and password that you used to install the server?
[00:35] <Dr_willis> squeakypants,  manually writing parts of the xorg.conf once you figyure out what you need.
[00:35] <Pelo> Level52, well, from what little I have seen,  your settings files probably refer to partitons that no longer exist ,  like /boot/grub/menu.lst or /etc/fstab , and so on
[00:35] <orbixx-livecd> Command to compress to .tar.gz?
[00:35] <Level52> unop__: Well, it stops booting later because root is not mounted, I think
[00:36] <dman92> how do i join strings in bash?
[00:36] <Dr_willis> orbixx-livecd,  a .gz is compressed..
[00:36] <orbixx-livecd> I know.
[00:36] <jrib> dman92: concatenation
[00:36] <Level52> menu.lst and fstab are adjusted. The partition that it tries to mount is the correct one and does exist
[00:36] <nickrud> orbixx-livecd tar cf storage.tar.gz /path/to/dir/to/tar
[00:36] <Pelo> dman92, &&
[00:36] <orbixx-livecd> Thanks nickrud.
[00:36] <Jack_Sparrow> dman92, you mean as in >> append
[00:36] <FotoPhocus> colR: It's marginally better.  It's still extremely quiet though, with everything maxed
[00:36] <squeakypants> dr_willis: bah, i hate modifying xorg.conf lol
[00:36] <Dartrunner> Fishscene, I only have one user on here, so yes,   your command will just install the 1.5 release version of VMware
[00:36] <Dr_willis> dman92,  the advanced bash scripting guide - has examples and details on string opperations.
[00:37] <unop__> dman92, var1="foo"; var2="bar";  var3="$var1$var2"
[00:37] <Dartrunner> Fishscene, I am trying to use the 2.0 beta version
[00:37] <squeakypants> dr_willis: the problem is that if i use the nv drivers, when i try dual monitoring it crashes
[00:37] <Fishscene> Dartrunner, I have no idea then. =\ Go ahead and poke the brains of the VMware Guru's :)
[00:37] <DefineKThyne> pelo: i'm gonna go see what my hard disk pin selector is at and then reboot brb
[00:37] <Pelo> Level52, check the spelling in fstab
[00:37] <Dr_willis> squeakypants, I only use nvidia cards with 2 video outs anyway.. been ages sinve ive used 2 actiual video cards.
[00:37] <dman92> Dr_willis: yeah, confusing tho =/ got it!
[00:37] <dman92> unop__: thx
[00:37] <gokorn> sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade && sudo aptitude install ubuntu-desktop  /// i did this can someting goes wrong? :P
[00:37] <Mr_Bad_News> does vmware work on gutsy ?
[00:37] <unop__> Level52, well, what i would do is chroot into the system and verify the integrity of the /etc/fstab file
[00:38] <Dr_willis> dman92,  its worth reading,, then reading again a week later... then again 2 weeks later.. :)
[00:38] <Pelo> Mr_Bad_News, yes it does, it's also in the repos
[00:38] <Dartrunner> Fishscene, Can you just tell me how to activate the root account?
[00:38] <Mr_Bad_News> i've been reading around and i keep finding posts that say vmware no longer works on gutsy
[00:38] <noob13> gokorn: something can always go wrong. gl.
[00:38] <Dr_willis> dman92,  I even have a set of bookmarks for 'docs' :) like that in my browser.
[00:38] <colR> FotoPhocus: no offence, but i've done it myself: is the hardware volume control turned down low?
[00:38] <gokorn> lol that i know
[00:38] <squeakypants> mmm
[00:38] <nickrud> Dartrunner if vmware makes a point of telling you to set up a root password, you could try sudo -i  . That gets you the eqiv to a root terminal. If it fails, sudo passwdm
[00:38] <dman92> Dr_willis: tried several times now =/ not enough time. mostly i just learn by doing. use things when i need them
[00:38] <Pelo> Mr_Bad_News, vmware server wroks, there is no longer a vmware player
[00:38] <FotoPhocus> colR: none taken.  the volume knob is cranked
[00:38] <v3trae> Having insane problems with getting my external soundcard to work. If anyone has time let me know i can give you more information
[00:38] <nickrud> Dartrunner erm, sudo passwd
[00:38] <Fishscene> Dartrunner, I'm not sure how to. It's my understanding that the root account doesn't need to be activated in Ubuntu and thus, is turned off by default.
[00:39] <Dr_willis> dman92,  print stuff out..keep it in the 'reading room' eats lots of fiber.. :) read while you wait.. :)
[00:39] <Mr_Bad_News> i just need to get a windows machine running so i can use rosetta stone
[00:39] <noob13> gokorn: which version are u on now?
[00:39] <Mr_Bad_News> unless there's a better way
[00:39] <unop__> Level52, make sure /dev/hda5 actually exists and has the right filesystem as per /etc/fstab
[00:39] <Mr_Bad_News> wine doesnt really work that well
[00:39] <Fishscene> nickrud, He is trying to log into a web-interface and it's telling him that he can only log in as the "root" user
[00:39] <Dr_willis> Mr_Bad_News,  theres always virtualbox
[00:39] <Level52> Pelo, unop__: The error ist right after the timed kernel output. Are those scripts in the initrd? (I've never used an initrd before)
[00:39] <Mr_Bad_News> virtualbox?
[00:39] <vbabiy-laptop> Hey has any one been able to get the dell xps m1530 mic to work
[00:39] <gokorn> 7.10
[00:39] <Mr_Bad_News> which is better virtualbox or vmware
[00:39] <Dr_willis> Mr_Bad_News,  yes. :)  yet another virtual machine program. similer to vmware. You could ask in #ubuntu+1 if vmware is working
[00:39] <dman92> Dr_willis: waste of paper though
[00:40] <Level52> unop__: I will... booting from CD now
[00:40] <Pelo> Level52, that'S over my head at this point ,  might be in /etc/init.d or the /etc/rc***
[00:40] <Dr_willis> Mr_Bad_News,  depends on your needs. Both are getting better all the time.
[00:40] <nickrud> Fishscene I can believe that, I've seen others like that. unpatched webmin, cupsys-admin , swat , things like that
[00:40] <Dr_willis> Mr_Bad_News,  given that its free... theres no reason to not try it out.
[00:40] <Mr_Bad_News> i just need to be able to run rosetta stone Dr_willis
[00:40] <Mr_Bad_News> thats it
[00:40] <Ldub> hello every one i'm a noob just looking for help
[00:40] <Dr_willis> !vbox | Mr_Bad_News
[00:40] <ubotu> Mr_Bad_News: virtualbox is a x86 !virtualizer. A !free edition is available in !Gutsy as 'virtualbox-ose'. A non-free edition is available at http://virtualbox.org for most Ubuntu releases (help in #vbox) - Setup details at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VirtualBox
[00:40] <ZPertee> I am wanting to use Asterisk on ubuntu with IMAP support.  It needs cclient to work correctly.  Asterisk has several cclient packages any idea which one I need?
[00:40] <dman92> Ldub: just ask. no intro needed
[00:40] <Pelo> Ldub, state your issue and be patient
[00:40] <noob13> Ldub: what appears to be the problem?
[00:40] <unop__> Level52, well, /root does not look like a directory that is critical to the boot process .. things in /boot and / are .. but not /root AFAIK .. so i am guessing your system is failing when the filesystems are being mounted
[00:40] <Fishscene> Dartrunner, VMware may have a workaround for this on their website. See known issues for VMware Server 2 Beta (I can't dig up the website at the moment)
[00:40] <Dr_willis> Mr_Bad_News,  'rosetta stone' means nothing to me. :)
[00:41] <Mr_Bad_News> well im on a laptop Dr_willis  so disk usage is a factor  since i only have 30gigs left
[00:41] <Dr_willis> Fishscene,  they got the beta released now? Cool.
[00:41] <unop__> Level52, although i suspect there may be more to this than just this mount problem
[00:41] <Mr_Bad_News> rosetta stone is a language course
[00:41] <dman92> Dr_willis: rosetta stone i believe is language software
[00:41] <colR> FotoPhocus: had to check. there's a possible soln @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.20/+bug/88332
[00:41] <Dr_willis> Mr_Bad_News,  my linux laptop only has 30gb total of hd space.
[00:41] <noob13> gokorn: and you'd like to go hardy? 8.04?
[00:41] <Pelo> Dr_willis,  a slab of stone with hieroglyph , greek and assyrian writings found by a french archeologist called Roestte in the 19 th century
[00:41] <Dr_willis> Mr_Bad_News,  i have a 10gb or so windows install on it.
[00:41] <Fishscene> Dr_willis, the Server 2 Beta has been out for a while >.> As well as some other exciting betas (Thinstall). Go check out their beta page. :D
[00:41] <dman92> Pelo: lol. true, but i doubt what he meant =P
[00:42] <nickrud> Fishscene Dartrunner I'm a sudo fanatic (prior to ubuntu's existence even) so I don't tell how to set root password lightly. If vmware hasn't patched it's web admin to use sudo Dartrunner will need an activated root account
[00:42] <gokorn> will it go to 8.4? :/ that i didnt wanted
[00:42] <gokorn> :D
[00:42] <Pelo> dman92, I'm must showing off
[00:42] <Dr_willis> Fishscene,  cools. Been reading some info on it. but havent tried it yet. Havbent hadd the need lately.
[00:42] <noob13> gokorn: once the stable is released, it shouldn't be hard.
[00:42] <FotoPhocus> colR: I'll give that a read, thanks for the help
[00:42] <dman92> Pelo: thats what the '=P' was for
[00:42] <Level52> unop__: Oh I see... maybe I confused "/" with "/root"... would be funny :)
[00:42] <Mr_Bad_News> alright Dr_willis i'll give it a try
[00:42] <SaEeDIRHA> what is shortcut key to full screen terminal like in windows is Altt+Enter ?
[00:42] <nullbnx> ok so im trying to setup my ubuntu server to run as a wap... iv gotten everything setup per the guide, but i can't access the internet when im connected to it... if i ping a website, dns works and i get the ip address, but no return
[00:42] <noob13> gokorn: what are u trying to do?
[00:42] <nullbnx> ip tables maybe bad?
[00:42] <colR> FotoPhocus: np, i'm new to all this myself. i'll do some research though. pm me and let me know how you get on
[00:42] <gokorn> http://compiz.org/Ubuntu_Installation_Guide
[00:43] <Ldub> the problem is that im trying to install ubuntu on my 256 box and its freezing up i researched it on the forums but no issues is the same
[00:43] <gokorn> step by step
[00:43] <unop__> Level52, well, the dynamics change if it was indeed / and not /root
[00:43] <SaEeDIRHA> ?
[00:43] <dman92> nickrud: well, to set up root there is a tutorial on the ubuntu forums, but it is not recommended for obvious reasons
[00:43] <Level52> unop__: sure do. I give it 15 more minutes, then I go to sleep and reinstall tomorrow
[00:43] <nickrud> dman92 yup. I used to have one so I could use localhost:631 to admin cups, but it's patched now in ubuntu
[00:44] <SaEeDIRHA> anyone got an idea?
[00:44] <Level52> unop__: funny thing is I moved the partitions around because I suspected that they might be the reason the WinXP installation crashes (they are not)
[00:44] <SaEeDIRHA> i want to full screen my terminal when i am in bash
[00:44] <Pelo> SaEeDIRHA, F11
[00:44] <dman92> nickrud: i had one for some reason before. no more
[00:44] <noob13> gokorn: that how-to might be a bit outdated. i suggest u try using Synaptic Package Manager to install compiz-fusion...
[00:44] <nickrud> dman92 not for the last two releases myself, anyway
[00:45] <SaEeDIRHA> Pelo: doesnt work :-(
[00:45] <Ldub> yo noob it's freezing on my 256 box any answers
[00:45] <nickrud> SaEeDIRHA on the gnome-terminal menu, view->full screen
[00:45] <Pelo> SaEeDIRHA, we must be talking about somenthig different
[00:45] <nullbnx> any ideas?
[00:45] <gokorn> ok i will try with that. but this is sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade.... is doing about 10 m now. can i ctrl +c it ;:D
[00:45] <gokorn> or wait?
[00:45] <dman92> Ldub: 256 box? like 256mb ram?
[00:45] <Ldub> yeah
[00:45] <SaEeDIRHA> nickrud: that is why i asked for shortcut key
[00:46] <nullbnx> lol this room has sooo many convos going on at the same time
[00:46] <noob13> Ldub: that isn't too much ram, but it should still work
[00:46] <Fishscene> g2g folks
[00:46] <nickrud> SaEeDIRHA I thought maybe you had disabled the key, so therefore suggested the menu
[00:46] <jrib> SaEeDIRHA: set one in the "keyboard shortcut" preferences for the terminal
[00:46] <w30> SaEeDIRHA, no equivalent exists, however if you hit <ctrl><alt><F1> or <F2>, etc. you cn get another virtual terminal full screen with no X running. To excape the virtual terminal and get back to Xwindows type <ctrl><alt><F7>
[00:46] <Pelo> Ldub, try the  alternate install cd it is less demanding during the install , get it from the website just check the alternate cd box below the downlaod buton
[00:46] <dman92> nullbnx: Ldub: well, with 256 the alternate install may be needed, but it should run okay.
[00:46] <SaEeDIRHA> ok thankx alot guys
[00:47] <Ldub> i'm going to try i appreciate the help
[00:47] <Mr_Bad_News> Dr_willis, how do i run virtualbox
[00:47] <nickrud> SaEeDIRHA you can see what's bound to full screen at gconf-editor /apps/gnome-terminal/keybindings
[00:47] <gokorn> should i wait should i go ctrl +c :D
[00:47] <gokorn> ah it is finished
[00:47] <dman92> Ldub: also some machines can't run livecds. my 2gb, 2.0ghz dual-core laptop for instance =/
[00:47] <Dr_willis> Mr_Bad_News,  i would have to suggest reading the docs at their web page.   Its rather straight forward.
[00:48] <Jakoo> hello everyone, can someone tell if it is possible to make a "ghost" of my ubuntu from this hd to a bigger one?
[00:48] <Ldub> are you serious
[00:48] <Dr_willis> Jakoo,  teres a 'ghost for linux' g4l program :)
[00:48] <noob13> hi!
[00:48] <unop__> Jakoo, you can also use dd
[00:48] <noob13> :)
[00:48] <dman92> Ldub: LiveCD + Ati graphics = :-(
[00:48] <Pelo> !clone > Jakoo
[00:48] <Ldub> dman92:ii installed it on my work computer with the same specs and its begging for more
[00:48] <nullbnx> anyone know how to setup iptables; im attempting to setup a wap and can't ping through
[00:48] <Ldub> ohhh
[00:48] <dman92> Ldub: what specs? my laptop?
[00:49] <NetEcho_> does anyone know of wepcrack for ubuntu?
[00:49] <NetEcho_> or similar app
[00:49] <dman92> NetEcho_: try aircrack-ng?
[00:49] <Jakoo> is this ok then with the grub?
[00:49] <dman92> look online for quides
[00:49] <Pelo> NetEcho_, search for keywords in synaptic,  in the system admin menu
[00:49] <Jakoo> will the second hd start the system with no further actions?
[00:49] <Dartrunner> Fishscene nickrud   Just to let you know, that fixed it, have to log in with root to get it to work  Thanks for the help
[00:49] <Ldub> dman92: oh...no my work laptop with the 2.0 gig dauly
[00:50] <Pelo> Jakoo, not sure , you might need to make some adjustments in grub,  dl the supergrub cd first you can use that to fix it if there is a problem
[00:50] <dman92> Ldub: yeah, 2gb ram + 2.0 ghz core2 seems to satisy ubuntu fine for me. all of 205mb ram used at boot
[00:50] <robinprak> anyone knows if Hercules MK2 DJ Console is supported by any program??
[00:50] <Level52> unop__, Pelo: It actually was a wrong root partition in the grub config. Thanks for your pointers, I really thought that it was correct and got confused looking for other errors. The partitioning scheme is just too complex for me now :)
[00:51] <Jakoo> so maybe it is better to save eveything then reinstall the system isnt it?
[00:51] <crazytalk_> unop__: is there anything wrong with me using the gui to show hidden files in olduser and jsut copying them to new user?
[00:51] <Pelo> Level52, so it is fixed ?
[00:51] <DarkJustice> omg screw this, I'm reinstalling windows, this has to be the most inferior POS operating system around
[00:51] <guardia> http://digg.com/2008_us_elections/The_Obama_Rap
[00:51] <Pici> !nickspam > tpw_rules_galaxy (Please see the private messsage from ubotu)
[00:51] <Zelta> !ot | guardia
[00:51] <ubotu> guardia: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[00:51] <urthmover> even his head has a beer belly
[00:51] <MrStitch> 'lo everyone
[00:51] <Level52> Pelo: Yeah. Well if by fixed you mean that I moved partitions to a strange order for no reason ;)
[00:51] <Ldub> dman92: that's nice i'm new to linux... i got tired of being a microsoft slave.
[00:52] <jelloman> me too!
[00:52] <Pelo> Jakoo,  you only realy need to save your /home folder,  I recommend you put it on a seperate partitons ,  on your new hdd  make 5-10 gig ext for / , 2xram swap ( max 2gig), and the rest ext3 for your /home ,  copy your /home to it and then install ubuntu on the 10 gig part,   use manual partitionning when you get to that part of thei installer t tell the installer where swap and /home are
[00:52] <MrStitch> If I want to install a new piece of hardware, do I need to contact the manufacturer for linux drivers, or does Ubuntu have some other type of system?
[00:53] <Elevator_Hazard> MrStitch pretty sure it depends on the drivers
[00:53] <dman92> Ldub: 6 months ubuntu only here. xp was crap, and after using linux i'm hooked. can't go back.
[00:53] <Pelo> Level52, I mean fixed grub,  but if you cna boot I will not argue the point
[00:53] <Elevator_Hazard> MrStitch some companies aren't so good with linux drivers
[00:53] <Jakoo> thank you very much!
[00:53] <nickrud> MrStitch the last place you'll get drivers from is the manufacturers, they usually ignore linux. The vast majority of hardware already have drivers in the kernel courtesy of volunteers
[00:54] <Pici> MrStitch: And its entirely possible that theres already support for your hardware built into Ubuntu.
[00:54] <Ldub> dman92: yeah a sub contractor showed me his setup and I was hooked
[00:54] <Pelo> dman92, I tried ubuntu for learning purposes,  to get familiar with it , took me 5 days to boot xp back and that was just to get my email info,  I was hooked as well
[00:54] <MrStitch> nickrud, probably not for this. Is there a way I can find out if something exists for my card?
[00:54] <mike> hello?
[00:54] <dman92> Ldub: i just got interested in it, and the power. then windows got so bad i couldn't use it.
[00:54] <Pelo> !hi | mike
[00:54] <ubotu> mike: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[00:55] <Jeffrey1> I have doubt on the following statement from someone I work with:  Is OSX based on a unix kernel?
[00:55] <Pelo> Jeffrey1, osx is based on BSD
[00:55] <cabrioleur> Used to, at least
[00:55] <Jeffrey1> Based on or is it BSD?
[00:55] <Ldub> dman92: i'm done with microsoft and my mac has dust on it so i'm here trying to learn
[00:55] <Pici> !ot
[00:55] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[00:55] <mike> could someone help me set up ubuntu as a proxy server?
[00:55] <Pelo> Jeffrey1,  based like ubuntu is based on debian
[00:56] <Jeffrey1> Thanks Pelo
[00:56] <nickrud> MrStitch I'd do a google search for    ubuntu <exact hardware model>  , then fall back on linux <model>
[00:56] <SeaPhor> squid.conf! yikes
[00:56] <nickrud> MrStitch what exactly is it?
[00:56] <donkey7186> i have a question how do i re-install ubuntu?????
[00:56] <Pelo> later folks food needed
[00:57] <Ldub> thanks dman, pelo i'm going to grab a heineken and wait for this download...go mariners
[00:57] <MrStitch> nickrud, it's an Echo Mia audio card, used for multi track recording
[00:57] <urthmover> cool audio card
[00:57] <nickrud> MrStitch and the exact model ?
[00:57] <urthmover> gets decent response
[00:58] <jelloman> hey i have a question, i try to edit a file and it says i cant because im not the owner...except i am the owner?
[00:58] <noob13> donkey7186: format, insert live cd?
[00:58] <nickrud> MrStitch is that the one using an hda-intel chip?
[00:58] <Invisionfree> Someone help me with this
[00:58] <Invisionfree> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[00:58] <Invisionfree>   libsasl2-modules-gssapi-heimdal: Depends: libsasl2-modules (= 2.1.22.dfsg1-12) but 2.1.22.dfsg1-9ubuntu2 is to be installed
[00:58] <Invisionfree> E: Broken packages
[00:58] <donkey7186> noob13 so all i do is insert live cd and just install it on the partition its on?
[00:58] <FloodBot1> Invisionfree: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:58] <dman92> jelloman: is it a root file? be careful and use sudo.
[00:58] <MrStitch> nickrud, don't think so... Looking right now.
[00:58] <dman92> !sudo > jelloman
[00:59] <icesword> nickrud, dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg works for kde too?
[00:59] <noob13> Invisionfree: u'll have to install the dependencies...
[00:59] <noob13> Invisionfree: use aptitude.
[00:59] <nickrud> MrStitch if it's plugged in, lspci  will show all the cards
[00:59] <nickrud> icesword it's for X, therefore for all guis
[00:59] <Invisionfree> noob13: I am ...
[00:59] <dman92> Invisionfree: synaptic has 'fix broken installations' feature i believe. check the menus
[01:00] <Jeffrey1> another question on OSx Vs Linux.  If OSX is BSD based, wouldn't OSx Drivers for a printer work for a distro like FreeBSD?
[01:00] <icesword> nickrud, okkkk,thanks
[01:00] <Invisionfree> dman92: I don't have synaptic
[01:00] <nickrud> hm, Invisionfree are you mixing debian and ubuntu packages there?
[01:00] <Invisionfree> Yeah nickrud, it's a debian script I need to make work on Ubuntu server :x
[01:00] <MrStitch> nickrud, it just says "Echo Mia 24.96 Digital Recording", and on the back it says it has a On-board 24-Bit Motorola DSP.
[01:01] <dman92> Invisionfree: command-line only? synaptic is installed by default System > Administration > Synaptic package manager.
[01:01] <Fa> OSX uses freebsd kernel
[01:01] <nickrud> MrStitch is it plugged in?
[01:01] <SeaPhor> mike: is anyone helping you yet?
[01:01] <Invisionfree> dman92: It's ubuntu server, no GUI ftw.
[01:01] <MrStitch> nickrud, no... I took it out the last time I had to reload winBlows
[01:01] <fish> hello good people of ubuntu!
[01:01] <R3D3Y3> Hello fish.
[01:01] <Jeffrey1> Do FreeBSD device drivers work in Ubuntu
[01:02] <SeaPhor> hello and so long and thanks for all the fish!
[01:02] <Invisionfree> nickrud: Know of anything I can do to make it work (I'm running the following command):
[01:02] <Invisionfree> apt-get install heimdal-clients heimdal-docs heimdal-kcm heimdal-servers libgssapi4-heimdal libpam-heimdal libsasl2-modules-gssapi-heimdal libsasl2-2 libsasl2-modules-ldap ldap-utils libnss-ldap libpam-ldap libpam-cracklib libldap2 nscd ssh-krb5 ntpdate ntp
[01:02] <fish> soo... what do i do if my root password is wrong?, meaning I knwo what it SHOULD be and it isnt?
[01:02] <american> how do i find out what verision of fglrx i have?
[01:02] <R3D3Y3> fish use the cd/dvd and boot with that and change it ..
[01:02] <R3D3Y3> chroot
[01:02] <fish> BUT
[01:03] <MrStitch> nickrud, either way, if I want to use this card, I still need to hunt down actual linux-based drivers.... correct?
[01:03] <fish> my root password works when the little root windows pop up like when chnaging the clock settings
[01:03] <nickrud> Invisionfree probably you need to do something like  libsasl2-modules=2.1.22.dfsg1-12 to force the version. Probably run into other issues.
[01:03] <fish> but not when i try to log on as root and not whe i try to use root in terminal
[01:03] <Mr_Bad_News> how do i install windows in virtualbox all i've found is how to install virtual box on my machine
[01:03] <fish> cwazy stuff
[01:03] <R3D3Y3> Can you sudo su - ?
[01:04] <nickrud> MrStitch yup. Didn't find anything in the first pass. You can ask on #alsa, they're the experts on sound
[01:04] <Invisionfree> nickrud: So far that's the only problem I have, and what?
[01:04] <fish> nop[e
[01:04] <Pici> fish: Thats not the root password when you get the password dialog box.
[01:04] <Pici> !sudo | fish
[01:04] <ubotu> fish: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for more information.
[01:04] <R3D3Y3> What is the error ?
[01:04] <Pici> !root
[01:04] <ubotu> Do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth... there is no root password. Then you will see that it is 'sudo' that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[01:04] <MrStitch> nickrud, that channel on this server?
[01:04] <fish> alrighty
[01:04] <fish> how do I log on as root and use su?
[01:05] <R3D3Y3> you can't really log on as root
[01:05] <Pici> fish: Please read the link there.
[01:05] <R3D3Y3> you have to use sudo ..
[01:05] <jrib> fish: read the link
[01:05] <jelloman> is there a place i can go to learn more about commands?
[01:05] <R3D3Y3> sudo gives you root power..
[01:05] <jrib> !cli | jelloman
[01:05] <fish> i need to install a video game and If i dont soon im gonna go through withdrawles
[01:05] <ubotu> jelloman: The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal
[01:05] <Pici> jelloman: What kind of commands?
[01:05] <Invisionfree> E: Version '2.1.22.dfsg1-12' for 'libsasl2-modules' was not found
[01:05] <Invisionfree> nickrud: Uh oh?
[01:05] <pitr256> you can sudo su -
[01:05] <jelloman> cool, thx
[01:05] <pitr256> in order to gain root console
[01:05] <Pici> pitr256: sudo -i is a much better way.
[01:05] <pitr256> I agree
[01:05] <jelloman> all kinds of commands
[01:06] <pitr256> but if you want root, that's the way to get it
[01:06] <R3D3Y3> pici .. why is that better ?
[01:06] <fish> i tried su - and it told me incorrect password
[01:06] <SeaPhor> fish: what vid game if i may ask?
[01:06] <pitr256> you have to 'sudo su -'
[01:06] <fish> Legends
[01:06] <dman92> Invisionfree: ah, server. I have one as well. try man apt-get to see what the applicable parameter is
[01:06] <fish> ok so terminal works
[01:07] <fish> with sudo su -
[01:07] <BhaalWK> Anyone able to tell me if there is a common resource where I can find out why a particular package may not make it into hardy?
[01:07] <fish>  but how do i log on as root?
[01:07] <Level52> I'm on a Notebook. Knoppix 5.3 (with Compiz Fusion) uses about 3 Watts less than kUbuntu 7.10 when idle. Both clock down the CPU. Any idea what's responsible for the difference?
[01:07] <R3D3Y3> fish you can't.
[01:07] <pitr256> you can't login as root
[01:07] <Invisionfree> nickrud, can you fix this?
[01:07] <Invisionfree> E: Version '2.1.22.dfsg1-12' for 'libsasl2-modules' was not found
[01:07] <fish> why is that?
[01:07] <fish> im new to ubuntu
[01:07] <R3D3Y3> Security
[01:07] <pitr256> security
[01:07] <fish> security?!
[01:07] <pitr256> yes
[01:07] <Zelta> you would never want to log in as root
[01:07] <Pici> R3D3Y3: sudo -i does not inherit your users environement variables, which you probably don't want to use when rooting around. Plus its designed for that.
[01:07] <Elevator_Hazard> If I want to install grub on my root partition but not in the boot sector... what do I do?
[01:07] <pitr256> you can't login as root on a Mac either
[01:07] <jrib> fish: you are ignoring the information people have given you
[01:08] <Pici> fish: Have you read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo at all?
[01:08] <Zelta> a lot of the security issues with Windows have to due with Administrator being the default account
[01:08] <fish> yeas, but I thought this was a conversation?
[01:08] <pitr256> it is
[01:08] <pitr256> and you have a very good question
[01:09] <pitr256> if you really want to login as root, I'd ask why?
[01:09] <fish> i was just pertepuating the conversation because it has some interesting points?
[01:09] <f0rmat> can anyone tell me why when i shutdown or close my screen on my laptop.... well it just failz and shows loads of colours on the screen instead of showing output
[01:09] <R3D3Y3> thanks for the tip Pici...
[01:09] <BhaalWK> Alright, anyone know why multi-gnome-terminal is no longer available in hardy?  (Im hoping it will be back in before the actual release)
[01:09] <fish> just to have the ability, i guess
[01:09] <Zelta> !sudo | fish
[01:09] <ubotu> fish: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for more information.
[01:09] <R3D3Y3> I'm using chatzilla here and am new to the msg thingy..
[01:09] <nickrud> Invisionfree you would need to have the debian repos enabled. You are getting into a can of worms there. I mean, it's doable, but I am not comfortable doing this without sitting at the machine myself so I'd see all output
[01:09] <Pici> R3D3Y3: Heh, don't worry about it.
[01:09] <R3D3Y3> I'm also on vista... (ducks ... )
[01:09] <nullbnx> so whats everyone think of 8.04? worth the upgrade in a few days?
[01:09] <fish> i mean, in fedora.."the newbie linux" you can log in as root
[01:09] <Pici> BhaalWK: Hardy in #ubuntu+1 please :)
[01:10] <Invisionfree> nickrud: How do I enable the debian repos?
[01:10] <Zelta> fish: If you want a conversation, join #ubuntu-offtopic
[01:10] <Zelta> This is for Ubuntu support only, please
[01:10] <fish> ok then
[01:10] <Zelta> thanks
[01:10] <BhaalWK> Pici: Sorry, did not know of the channels existence
[01:10] <BhaalWK> Pici: Thanks
[01:10] <Pici> BhaalWK: No need to apologize
[01:10] <nickrud> Invisionfree you would add them to your sources.list. And no offence, but if you're not yet familiar with where/what repos are, you are getting into a freaking huge can of worms
[01:11] <Invisionfree> I understand repos and what they are, where can I find the debian repos?
[01:11] <Pici> Invisionfree: I also suggest not adding debian repos, you can and probably will create a dependency mess by adding them, and we do not support them.
[01:11] <nullbnx> pici: is there a ubuntu server irc room?
[01:11] <Pici> nullbnx: Why #ubuntu-server of course, but we do support that here as well.
[01:11] <nullbnx> pici: thanks =)
[01:12] <Invisionfree> Pici: I'll remove it once I install this one package, promise. :P
[01:12] <Pici> Invisionfree: What package?
[01:12] <Invisionfree> E: Version '2.1.22.dfsg1-12' for 'libsasl2-modules' was not found
[01:13] <Jimmy1> Hey
[01:13] <SeaPhor> can anyone tell me how to completely uninstall and remove ndiswrapper,,, and envy while i'm at it?
[01:13] <Level52> bye
[01:13] <penguin> bah, is it possible to get ubuntu to use windows fonts, not just have them installed?
[01:13] <Invisionfree> Pici:
[01:13] <Invisionfree> E: Version '2.1.22.dfsg1-12' for 'libsasl2-modules' was not found
[01:13] <nickrud> Invisionfree heh. The bug I filed against debian repos in apt is finally fixed
[01:13] <Jimmy1> my screens resolution is very big after enabling the nvidia card how do i change the settings now ?
[01:13] <Invisionfree> That one, sorry.
[01:13] <Invisionfree> Lol nickrud, but if you said when I can get it, I missed it :x
[01:14] <vikram_> does anyone have a computer with an x3100gma?
[01:14] <Pici> Invisionfree: I was just curious.  I'd carefully read what dependencies that wants to pull in if you try to install it.
[01:14] <vikram_> hello?
[01:15] <Pici> penguin: The msttcorefonts package has MS fonts, but it needs to be installed.
[01:15] <doubledew> what function is ndisgtk actually performing?
[01:15] <nickrud> http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/debian-26/post-your-source.list-330913/ Invisionfree . I"m not gonna offer any more assistance on this, I am not going to be even tangentally responsible for the possible breakage
[01:15] <penguin> pici - but how?
[01:16] <Pici> penguin: either by searching for it in synaptic or by typing: sudo apt-get install msttcorefonts     in a !terminal
[01:16] <penguin> pici, yes, i realize this, but i want ubuntu to use the fonts, not just have them cached.
[01:17] <Pici> penguin: They will be added to your normal fonts, i.e. you will be able to use them in OOo and other programs.
[01:17] <mountainma1> hey--i can't find a working iso file anywhere for ubuntu 7.10, anyone have any ideas?
[01:17] <penguin> pici - nevermind.
[01:17] <Pici> penguin: Maybe I'm not getting what you're saying.
[01:17] <penguin> pici - you arent.
[01:17] <penguin> i got it, nevermind.
[01:17] <nickrud> Invisionfree I'm away for a while, I'll be interested in your experiences later ;)
[01:18] <fish> Ok, the root thing was a tiny bit annoying but I understand the purpose and so i accept it.>>>>> Question NUMBER 2: Can someone help me figure out why my box freezes when i try to boot with Mt video card installed?
[01:18] <fish> Mt=my
[01:18] <SeaPhor> can anyone tell me how to completely uninstall and remove ndiswrapper,,, and envy while i'm at it?
[01:19] <Starnestommy> SeaPhor: sudo aptitude remove --purge ndiswrapper-common ndiswrapper-modules-1.9
[01:19] <iwarner> i have an NTFS volume mounted and each time I open a .txt file it prompts me to Display - Run etc - how can I stop this
[01:19] <Starnestommy> SeaPhor: for envy, you might need to reinstall
[01:20] <MrStitch> Hey, note to anyone that cares for the knowledge: I tried opening an Excel 2007 spreadsheet with my Open office, and it freaked out the whole menu.... and stayed that way until I completely removed OO from the system, and re-installed.
[01:20] <orbixx-livecd> nickrud: You still around?
[01:21] <pukeko> MrStitch: have you managedto repeatthat on another box ?
[01:21] <SeaPhor> Starnestommy: Thank you,, i did try sudo aptitude remove --purge ndiswrapper-common ndiswrapper-modules-1.9 but I'm not convinced is gone
[01:21] <techqbert> does ubuntu 7.10 have an easy way to set up s-video by app (friend needs it) ?  i'm on 8.04 fluxbox
[01:22] <Starnestommy> SeaPhor: you might need to reboot just to be sure
[01:22] <fish> anyone know why my box freezes when i try to boot with my video card installed?
[01:22] <doubledew> so i have a question about my wireless adapter (please don't ignore yet) My adapter, belkin usb wireless g used to work fine out of the box with the ubuntu installation.  it all of a sudden stopped being recognized, (a lsusb does not show it is even on the bus) but it is being powered.  The adapter works fine with windows and I've tired used ndisgtk to install the driver with ndiswrapper. ...
[01:22] <doubledew> ...Can anyone point me in a new direction to get this to work again?
[01:22] <cabrioleur> doubledew, check if ndiswrapper is loaded with sudo lsmod
[01:23] <maw> doubledew: anything in /var/log/messages or dmesg?
[01:23] <doubledew> cabrioleur: yes ndiswrapper is loaded
[01:23] <mountainma1> looking for help finding a ubuntu 7.10 iso that isn't corrupt....
[01:23] <cabrioleur> doubledew, when you check it with "ndiswrapper -l", is you card on the list?
[01:23] <cabrioleur> doubledew, or "sudo ndiswrapper -l"
[01:23] <maw> mountainma1: maybe it is your cdrw that is corrupting the isoz ;)
[01:24] <maw> fish: at what point does it lockup?
[01:24] <maw> fish: after post and during gnome loading?
[01:24] <doubledew> cabrioleur: it says the driver "blkwgu" is installed.  The .inf file i installed with ndisgtk is blkwgu.inf
[01:25] <fish> Well, IM not certain because its the Load screen with the progress bar but i can say that it freezes after about 1/6th of the bar
[01:25] <doubledew> maw:  what would i be looking for in dmesg?
[01:25] <maw> fish ok so gnome is starting... did you recently change your screen resolution
[01:26] <fish> nope, allways 1440x900
[01:26] <maw> doubledew: errors of some sort... try "dmesg | less" and look through it
[01:26] <maw> fish: the next time it locks up try "ctrl+backspace" I think that reloads X, might get you passed that point
[01:27] <doubledew> maw: it is filled with messages like this "[  768.029504] usb 5-2: new high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 58"
[01:27] <dman92> maw: fish: it's ctr-alt-bksp
[01:27] <fish> really? that soon after the bios screen?
[01:27] <maw> fish: also try tapping the "numlock" and "capslock" key to see if the lights go on/off... if nothing happens the system is probably hardlocked
[01:28] <maw> if it is hardlocked... then there is probably a hardware issue
[01:28] <doubledew> maw:  i also found these....   [ 1345.875058] ndiswrapper version 1.52 loaded (smp=yes, preempt=no)
[01:28] <doubledew> [ 1346.048614] usbcore: registered new interface driver ndiswrapper
[01:28] <fish> what parameters should I use to show verbose mode so i can get the erros?
[01:28] <fish> in the grub menu
[01:28] <gin_quaker> can someone help me bridge a network in ubuntu?
[01:29] <maw> doubledew can you paste your dmesg to pastebin.com?
[01:29] <CumCumMania>  who want a french kiss ? :x
[01:30] <maw> fish: I dont know off the top of my head. check grub dox + gnome startup dox
[01:30] <maw> fish: try the cap/numlock trick to see if it is indeed hardlocked
[01:31] <doubledew> maw:  it is now pasted
[01:31] <maw> dman92: I think xfce is ctrl+bksp... possibly where I got it from. Thanks for the correction
[01:31] <maw> doubledew: link please
[01:31] <mountainma1> maw: it's corrupted b4 it's even burned, i've been checking it with md5sum
[01:31] <doubledew> http://pastebin.com/d176d6b5c
[01:31] <c0d3w4rri0r> hi. in a bit of a fix here. I'm trying to install ubuntu using the text based install with manual partition but I'm afraid I'll delete data accidentally when i try to make 2 partitions out of one.
[01:32] <maw> mountainma1: sorry to hear that, have you manually selected different mirrors?
[01:32] <gin_quaker> any ideas anyone?
[01:32] <HinHin> c0d3w4rri0r, make sure you use the the manual partitioning option
[01:32] <maw> gin_quaker: do you have a specific question or do you want a complete walkthrough?
[01:33] <gin_quaker> how do I bridge two ethernet cards in ubuntu?
[01:33] <maw> doubledew: interesting - I haven't seen a dmesg like that before
[01:33] <c0d3w4rri0r> member:identifier:hinhin: am using it but not sure how it works
[01:33] <doubledew> maw: what are they usually like
[01:34] <fish> maw: I am afraid i didnt under stand this: "maw>	fish: I dont know off the top of my head. check grub dox + gnome startup dox" can you elaborate a little for me please?
[01:34] <maw> gin_quaker: are you sure bridge is the correct word? Maybe you want NAT... what are you trying to do?
[01:34] <HinHin> c0d3w4rri0r, in that case... would the graphical installer be easier for you?
[01:34] <joe__> Does anyone know why my pctel 2304WT linmodem shows "NO CARRIER!" I have tried  PCtel , slamr, and slmodemd packages. All get the same result in wvdail.  The modem dials out and sounds like a normal handshake but abruptly disconnects and gives me a no carrier message.
[01:34] <doubledew> fish:  documentation
[01:34] <maw> fish: you asked how to enable verbosity... I said I dont know
[01:34] <gin_quaker> maw: basibly, router -> ubuntumachine -> another machine
[01:35] <gin_quaker> so my ubuntu machine has two two network cards, eth0 and eth1
[01:35] <maw> doubledew: your entire dmesg is spammed with the USB messages - there should be more
[01:35] <c0d3w4rri0r> HinHin: i can't get the ppc gui to load at all.
[01:35] <fish> maw: It was the dox that i wasnt understanding, Thank you doubledew
[01:35] <HinHin> c0d3w4rri0r, ah no wonder
[01:35] <maw> fish: sorry
[01:35] <c0d3w4rri0r> HinHin: I think it's not configured well for my graphics card
[01:35] <maw> gin_quaker: does the backend server need internet access?
[01:35] <HinHin> c0d3w4rri0r, hmm... what you want to do, is create a new partition from the free space
[01:36] <gin_quaker> maw: you mean the ubuntumachine? yes
[01:36] <fish> maw: np maw, i will check those things and return with my results
[01:36] <fish> brb
[01:36] <HinHin> c0d3w4rri0r, if the live CD graphical installer isn't working... there may be a good chance that it still won't work after installation...
[01:36] <maw> gin_quaker: router -> ubuntu (internet=yes) -> computer (internet???)
[01:36] <doubledew> maw: by chance does this have anything to do with me using the beta for 8.04?  I mean for the spammed usb messages, teh wireless still had problems with 7.10
[01:36] <mountainma1> maw: ya i've tried ones from different ones-i can't figure out why none of the files will work. i've even tried downloading it on two different systems.  my other system is completely unbootable now
[01:37] <gin_quaker> maw: yeah the computer needs internet as well
[01:37] <c0d3w4rri0r> HinHin: that is a worry. some how it set the Hz beyond my moniters capabilitys
[01:37] <maw> gin_quaker: why cant the backend "another computer" be just ebhind the router?
[01:38] <HinHin> c0d3w4rri0r, ah don't worry about that :P... nowadays monitors won't let software force them into doing something like that
[01:38] <yefer> hola
[01:38] <c0d3w4rri0r> HinHin: basicly I'm hoping i can borrow an old vga crt
[01:38] <gin_quaker> maw: basicly, I don't want to run another 35 Meter cable
[01:38] <c0d3w4rri0r> HinHin: my flat screen isn't flexible enough.
[01:38] <HinHin> c0d3w4rri0r, what mac are you using?
[01:38] <Atomic_UE> I have a folder. I change the icon for that folder by right-click > properties. Where is the information saved/kept regarding what icon should be displayed for that folder?
[01:38] <c0d3w4rri0r> HinHin: g4 tower
[01:38] <MrStitch> Howdy, again....
[01:38] <HinHin> i found a few good sites for OSX/ubuntu 7.10 dualbooting
[01:38] <Atomic_UE> I always thought it was a .desktop file in that directory, but that doesn't seem to be the case?
[01:38] <ramoneur> whats the command for checking the name of a program?.. sounds weird, hope someone understands what i mean
[01:39] <MrStitch> What was that audio channel here again? Alas, or something like that?
[01:39] <maw> gin_quaker: I am confused... how is the ubuntu machine and the "another copmputer" connected then? its either cable or wireless
[01:39] <maw> for the physical layer
[01:39] <c0d3w4rri0r> HinHin: origional relise (with the dvi interface)
[01:39] <gin_quaker> cable
[01:39] <yefer> hola mundo
[01:39] <dman92> Atomic_UE: from my experience, whatever it is is in that directory, as you need write access (i think) to change the icon.
[01:39] <joe__> mrstich: alsa
[01:39] <RoAkSoAx> yefer, para español entra a #ubuntu-es
[01:39] <gin_quaker> maw: the ubuntu machine has two network cards, eth0 (going to the router) and eth1 (going to the other pc)
[01:39] <maw> doubledew: could be... can you try "dmesg > ~/dmesg.txt" and upload the file somewhere
[01:39] <MrStitch> There we go! Thanks bud!
[01:39] <Jeffrey1> How to remove the Linux partition then re-size the windows partition.  Is the partition editor on the live cd?
[01:39] <yefer> Thank you I speak English too
[01:40] <yefer> jeje
[01:40] <joe__> no problem
[01:40] <doubledew> maw: that is what i did to paste it to pastebin
[01:40] <RoAkSoAx> yefer, lol ok, but you should not speak in spanish here :)
[01:40] <maw> oh
[01:40] <yefer> ok, sorry, Im new here
[01:40] <maw> doubledew: well dmesg usally contains hardware information during the OS boot - I am surprised that is missing and it's just USB spam
[01:40] <dman92> yefer: everyone is once =P
[01:40] <yefer> I have just installed Ubuntu and I am exploring the possibilities
[01:41] <maw> doubledew: did you try different USB ports?
[01:41] <doubledew> yes i have, but this one works well with my ipod so i dont think its a bad port
[01:41] <c0d3w4rri0r> HinHin: anyway. I was wonering. I have this HFS+ partition with space but I'm not sure how to set the partioner to make a new partition out of the free space with out screwing up the data in the HFS+ partition.
[01:41] <maw> gin_quaker: have you considered this: router -> switch -> LAN
[01:42] <jga23> is there any way to set a hotkey for moving windows to another workspace (without focusing on that workspace)
[01:42] <maw> gin_quaker: what you're trying to do wont work unless the ubuntu machine is using NAT
[01:42] <maw> gin_quaker: there maybe another way to do it, but I dont know
[01:42] <HinHin> c0d3w4rri0r, as far as i know... it won't touch the data, only separate the free space
[01:43] <Jeffrey1> Have XP/Linux on dual boot.  Need to remove the Linux partition then re-size the windows partition back to maximum.  Is the partition editor on the live cd?
[01:43] <c0d3w4rri0r> HinHin: so i would select the option? resize the partition?
[01:43] <maw> doubledew: sorry man, that is odd... time for google I think unless someone else speaks up here ;)
[01:43] <IndyGunFreak> Jeffrey1: yes
[01:43] <HinHin> c0d3w4rri0r, yup resize
[01:43] <IndyGunFreak> Jeffrey1: use gparted on the live CD, to delete the ubuntu partition, then format it to NTFS..
[01:43] <doubledew> maw: yea i know, thanks for trying though
[01:43] <maw> doubledew: can you also share your /var/log/messages after the machine boots?
[01:43] <nonewmsgs> whats the prob
[01:43] <nonewmsgs> doubledew:
[01:43] <IndyGunFreak> Jeffrey1: then boot a windows boot disk, and run "fixmbr", and "fixboot" to remove grub from the master boort record of the windows drive
[01:44] <Jeffrey1> Thanks IndyGunFreak.....have to remove grub too
[01:44] <IndyGunFreak> Jeffrey1: right, read above.
[01:44] <doubledew> maw:  i dont have a /var/log/messages
[01:44] <w30> jga23, right clik on the window taskbar that you wnt to move
[01:44] <maw> doubledew: did you sudo?
[01:45] <w30> wnt/want
[01:45] <jga23> w30: yeah, I know, is there any way to set a hotkey to do that?
[01:45] <maw> doubledew: looking at your dmesg you're missing '0 -> 816'
[01:45] <maw> doubledew: look at your paste again
[01:45] <jga23> like ctrl-alt-4 to move the current window do workspace 4?
[01:45] <neur0n> !codec
[01:45] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[01:46] <c0d3w4rri0r> HinHin: hmm it doesn't apper to have done anyhing
[01:46] <doubledew> maw: that was the beginning of the dmesg > dmesg.txt
[01:46] <Jeffrey1> IndyGunFreak, fixmbr THEN fixboot?
[01:46] <maw> doubledew: you can see in the pastebin some was cutoff right at the top
[01:46] <maw> doubledew: maybe try again
[01:46] <warriorforgod> How can I search for an installed package on my system from the CLI?
[01:47] <doubledew> maw:  no, i mean that was the beginning of the output
[01:47] <doubledew> ok
[01:47] <maw> warriorforgod: rpm -q | grep -i <pkg name>
[01:47] <IndyGunFreak> Jeffrey1: yes
[01:47] <mtc267chs> hello, i know this is not a ubuntu question, but i haven't been able to install anything with wine, please help!
[01:48] <warriorforgod> maw: rpm in ubuntu?
[01:48] <HinHin> c0d3w4rri0r, what do you mean?
[01:48] <Sefram>  Is there any way to influence a started #!/bin/sh-script except from modifying files that it checks on?
[01:48] <doubledew> maw:  same kind of deal, i think the buffer is just filled
[01:48] <c0d3w4rri0r> HinHin: it said 'support for checking HFS+ partions  in not suprted yet, continue? (I presed yes) and now I'm back at the main partiton screen.
[01:48] <Jeffrey1> Thanks again IndyGunFreak
[01:48] <Sefram> any ideas here?
[01:48] <Y-Town> whats works well for syncing ipod to kubuntu?
[01:48] <HinHin> c0d3w4rri0r, ah well in that case :( HFS+ isn't supported
[01:48] <maw> warriorforgod: sure... or try 'aptitude'
[01:48] <ru`> mtc267chs: how far do you get?
[01:49] <c0d3w4rri0r> HinHin: poo.
[01:49] <HinHin> I don't think ubuntu can installed in that case
[01:49] <c0d3w4rri0r> HinHin: oh well thanks anyway
[01:49] <HinHin> c0d3w4rri0r, sorry to hear that c0d3w4rri0r :(
[01:49] <HinHin> c0d3w4rri0r, no worries ;)
[01:49] <spiritus5> can somebody help me please with ubuntu?
[01:49] <maw> warriorforgod: there might be an 'apt-query' or something... read the 'man aptitude'
[01:49] <Sefram>  Is there any way to influence a started /bin/sh-script except from modifying files that it checks on?
[01:50] <Y-Town> anyone know the best way to sync a ipod to kubuntu?
[01:50] <mtc267chs> i tried to install "ipod reset utility" it said: "the installer encountered errors brfore ipod reset utility could be configured"
[01:50] <Sipingal> Y-Town: video?
[01:50] <Y-Town> Sipingal: music
[01:51] <Y-Town> sip ipod nano 4 gig
[01:51] <Sipingal> gtkpod can do
[01:51] <ru`> mtc267chs: have you checked to see if your program is listed at http://appdb.winehq.org
[01:51] <mtc267chs> no
[01:52] <Y-Town> Sipingal: I tried thats... but the ipod doesnt see what I added yet 1.2 gig of space is gone
[01:52] <bluefoxx> do i need anything special to use a tape drive? so far all i can get mine to do is rewind and retension tapes
[01:52] <MrStitch> hey... dumb question here - How do I open a terminal?
[01:52] <maw> doubledew: did you try 'sudo cat /var/log/messages > ~/messages.txt
[01:52] <bluefoxx> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/63375/ > pastbin of dmesg | tail and lsmod
[01:52] <spiritus5> can anyone help me with my sound card soundblaster audigy and ubuntu, i cant use the external pannel, anybody can help?
[01:53] <ru`> MrStitch: Applications > Accessories > Terminal
[01:53] <MrStitch> ru', cool... thanks!
[01:53] <warriorforgod> Y-Town: You will need to install libgpod3 if it is a new nano
[01:53] <pcg|Raven-CSS> hey got a small prob trying to login to live cd kubuntu and it want let me any advice
[01:53] <warriorforgod> Y-Town: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=658523&highlight=ipod+nano
[01:53] <Dr_willis> spiritus5,  i got an audigy2zs - but it has an internal panel.  it worked for me fine. Occasionally i had to use the 'alsamixer' tool instead of the gnom4e or kde mixer. whats not working on the panel?
[01:53] <orbixx-livecd> !pastebin
[01:53] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post multiple-lined texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic)
[01:53] <warriorforgod> Y-Town: Just went though this on my new nano
[01:54] <bluefoxx> noone uses tapes anymore? not even server makers?
[01:54] <Y-Town> warriorforgod: thanks I will look into it
[01:54] <SeaPhor> MrStitch: right click on it and add to panel,,, quick easy access
[01:54] <pcg|Raven-CSS> ???
[01:54] <Sipingal> Can anyone help me with virutalbox issue? The keyboard is not working.
[01:54] <mheath> bluefoxx: Yes, many people still use magnetic tape.
[01:54] <Sipingal> my system is up-to-date.
[01:54] <spiritus5> nothing work, no volume control no microfone inputs, only the headfones work
[01:54] <Sipingal> hard
[01:54] <Sipingal> hardy
[01:55] <bluefoxx> mheath: well does anyone know how to get them working in linux? i can only make mine rewind and retension tapes
[01:55] <orbixx-livecd> Does anyone know how to enable a restricted driver at cli?
[01:56] <orbixx-livecd> I'm trying to enable a broadcom wlan card.
[01:56] <orbixx-livecd> It'll also need the firmware location, too.
[01:56] <fish> I have returned
[01:56] <mheath> bluefoxx: you use a tool called 'mt'.
[01:57] <JPSman> Hiya folks
[01:57] <fish> maw: I tried the caps lock thing and the lights on the keyboard did nothing, no response
[01:57] <JPSman> I need some help creating a new icon to load a program
[01:57] <iuri> hi there, does anyone know how to setup my wireless card?
[01:57] <arcticpenguin380> is jfs more fast than ext3?
[01:57] <mtc267chs> ru`:i've just checked the list, ipod reset utility is listed
[01:57] <mheath> bluefoxx: That performs all needed control operations
[01:57] <RainMaker> Hi.
[01:57] <mheath> bluefoxx: To write to the drive, you'd usually use tar
[01:57] <iuri> how to install my wireless device on ubuntu
[01:57] <JPSman> have any of you heard of phun?
[01:57] <maw> fish: are you dual booting to another OS?
[01:57] <ru`> mtc267chs: check if they give any specific instructions on how to use/install it
[01:58] <bluefoxx> mheath: thats what i am using, i cant get it to do anything else. and the other programs i tried cause kernel panic[aka a total freeze]
[01:58] <blownish> can anyone help me set up samba correctly? I am trying to network Hardy and OS X Tiger...
[01:58] <RainMaker> If anyone here would like to help me with a simple question, PM me.
[01:58] <mheath> bluefoxx: Rewind and retension are the only control operations you need.
[01:58] <spiritus5> can somebody help with audio card?
[01:58] <Livestam> Hello guys, was wondering why no new resolution/refresh rate options show up after I add them to the X config file and reboot. And yea, i've read the topic on resolution probalems...
[01:58] <spiritus5> external panel dont work with ubuntu
[01:59] <mheath> bluefoxx: To write to the tape drive, use tar
[01:59] <mtc267chs> it has only one entry, but n instructions on installation
[01:59] <mheath> bluefoxx: tape drives do NOT behave at all like normal drives. They can only be accessed in a linear manner.
[01:59] <orbixx-livecd> Does anyone know how to enable a restricted driver at cli?
[01:59] <Mr_Bad_News> im trying to install windows on virtualbox but as soon as i get to to the license agreement it freezes my computer
[01:59] <mheath> bluefoxx: You have to use a program that knows how to access them.
[01:59] <Mr_Bad_News> does anyone know how to fix this?
[01:59] <mheath> bluefoxx: tar is meant for that. tar was written specifically for writing to/from tapes
[01:59] <icesword> Mr_Bad_News, mem is not enough.hhaha
[02:00] <Mr_Bad_News> i have 256
[02:00] <bluefoxx> mheath: well how do i read and write to the tape? i plan to use it for backing up my documents[.zips and .pdfs] and my images, hoping to backup entire directories...the other program i tried wrote but the tape didnt move and it froze after a few minutes
[02:00] <Mr_Bad_News> how much do i need?
[02:00] <fish> maw: no
[02:00] <icesword> no,it cannot ,mr_bad_news,at least 512,if you use virutalbox
[02:00] <mheath> bluefoxx: First, rewind the drive: mt -f /dev/st0 rewind
[02:00] <fish> maw: I have fedora installed still but that only becaus i havnt transfered all my files over to Ub
[02:00] <Mr_Bad_News> whats the command to see howmuch my system has icesword
[02:01] <bluefoxx> mheath: i got that done
[02:01] <icesword> Mr_Bad_News, what?you host isn
[02:01] <fish> maw: I dont boot fedora though
[02:01] <maw> fish: and fedora loads fine?
[02:01] <Mr_Bad_News> ?
[02:01] <Mr_Bad_News> whats the command to see how much memory i have
[02:01] <mheath> bluefoxx: Then, to write to it, use tar, and a command like this (which backs up everything in home and uses compression): tar -czf /dev/st0 /home
[02:01] <maw> fish: oh... the fact you logged off IRC I thought you were using *this* computer for dual booting
[02:01] <fish> maw: yes, but not when i try to use the video card
[02:01] <icesword> Mr_Bad_News, free or less /proc/meminfo
[02:02] <maw> fish: are you ona  liveCD now
[02:02] <fish> no
[02:02] <bluefoxx> mheath: ok, thank you very much ^^ can i ask what the -czf means? and how do i read that after?
[02:02] <icesword> Mr_Bad_News, buy another mem stick,coz your host is linux
[02:02] <Mr_Bad_News> MemTotal:       255676 kB MemFree:         22648 kB Buffers:          8992 kB Cached:         112464 kB
[02:02] <Mr_Bad_News> im on a laptop
[02:02] <maw> Mr_Bad_News: cat /proc/meminfo
[02:03] <Mr_Bad_News> that is maw
[02:03] <Mr_Bad_News> MemTotal:       255676 kB
[02:03] <Mr_Bad_News> MemFree:         22648 kB
[02:03] <Mr_Bad_News> Buffers:          8992 kB
[02:03] <Mr_Bad_News> Cached:         112464 kB
[02:03] <FloodBot1> Mr_Bad_News: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:03] <mheath> bluefoxx: -c = create a new archive, z = use compression, -f <device> = write to  a partiuclar device
[02:03] <icesword> Mr_Bad_News, i say,virtualbox does a bad mem management,or maybe you can try vmware
[02:03] <maw> do you mean RAM or disk space?
[02:03] <maw> disk = df -h
[02:03] <Mr_Bad_News> ram
[02:03] <mheath> bluefoxx: type the command 'man tar' in a terminal to bring up the manual page for tar
[02:03] <maw> ok, then /proc/meminfo
[02:03] <Mr_Bad_News> that is meminfo
[02:03] <maw> which is RAM
[02:04] <mtc267chs> ru`:little help?
[02:04] <bluefoxx> bluefoxx@azUre-prIDE:~$ tar -czf /dev/st0 /home/bluefoxx/Documents              tar: Removing leading `/' from member names             tar: /dev/st0: Cannot write: Input/output error               tar: Error is not recoverable: exiting now             tar: Child returned status 2        tar: Error exit delayed from previous errors
[02:04] <icesword> maw, he has 256m ram,and want to run virtualbox
[02:04] <fevel> hey
[02:04] <Mr_Bad_News> so whats going on icesword i have enough
[02:05] <icesword> Mr_Bad_News, enough?what
[02:05] <Mr_Bad_News> i even tried to install it in fluxbox to use as little memory as possible and it still froze
[02:05] <mheath> bluefoxx: obviously you need to replace st0 with the real name of your drive.
[02:05] <Dr_willis> 256mb enough?  Ick.
[02:05] <eugman|college> I have a sh script I want to run periodically using cron, Is there a special place I should have it?
[02:05] <Mr_Bad_News> its a laptop Dr_willis
[02:05] <Chris|> i wouldnt even consider virtualbox with 256mbs of ram, 512mb yeah
[02:05] <mheath> bluefoxx: I have no idea what that is on a modern ubuntu system with your drive. It was st0 for a serial tape drive 10 years ago, the last time I worked with them.
[02:05] <Dr_willis> eugman|college,  use the full path to the script in the crontab and it should be fine.
[02:05] <icesword> Mr_Bad_News, then you could try vmware.like i told you,virtualbox does a bad mm
[02:05] <bluefoxx> mheath: that is the drive though
[02:05] <Dr_willis> Mr_Bad_News,  that some how makes it 'enough'?
[02:05] <Mr_Bad_News> no
[02:06] <Mr_Bad_News> i just dont know how to upgrade it myself
[02:06] <bluefoxx> mheath: when i use st0 with mt it works fine :/
[02:06] <fish> maw: I have Ub installed completely on one HD and Fedora installed completely on another separate HD in the same box, I use GRUB boot loader to choose the OS and ubuntu is default
[02:06] <icesword> Mr_Bad_News, and your host is linux.so ....
[02:06] <khem> hey on hardy my firefox keeps crashing when I play flash videos on it. its flaky I tried to delete .mozilla also but to no avail any known issues in this area ?
[02:07] <Dr_willis> khem,  flash is such an issue the last few months its scary.
[02:07] <mheath> bluefoxx: use google, search. I can't help much - I haven't used a tape drive in 10 years or so
[02:07] <nonewmsgs> what are illegal blocks and is it ok to clear them?
[02:07] <drivertest> I'm trying to write a linux char device driver, and I am able to cat the file, and it will call the (open) function i have written, but when i try to write to the file i get permission denided, does anyone have any ideas?  I have implemented the function and included it in the fops structure.
[02:07] <Moridin333> khem I read something about that in the forums
[02:07] <Mr_Bad_News> how do you turn the beep off in xfce?
[02:07] <Mr_Bad_News> im about to go crazy
[02:07] <Dr_willis> Mr_Bad_News,  i tend to use 'xset b 0 0 0 '
[02:07] <Mr_Bad_News> its not in settings
[02:07] <bazhang> #ubuntu+1 please khem
[02:07] <Dr_willis> it depends on who/what/how is beeping.
[02:07] <Mr_Bad_News> that means nothing to me Dr_willis  'xset b 0 0 0 '
[02:07] <fish> hey! bazhang
[02:07] <Mr_Bad_News> its the system beep Dr_willis
[02:07] <Dr_willis> Mr_Bad_News,  time to learn some basic shell commands then.
[02:08] <Dr_willis> open up a term - put that in :)
[02:08] <bazhang> hi fish
[02:08] <fish> remember me from last night?
[02:08] <Mr_Bad_News> know a good place ?
[02:08] <bazhang> sure fish
[02:08] <Dr_willis> google has 10000's of links to learn bash. and the bot here has a dozen factoids on the topic as well
[02:08] <Dr_willis> !bash | Mr_Bad_News
[02:08] <ubotu> Mr_Bad_News: The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal
[02:08] <Mr_Bad_News> thank you Dr_willis
[02:08] <fish> I tried the boot parameters you gave but it loaded the same way
[02:08] <Mr_Bad_News> do you know a place to learn things like that Dr_willis
[02:08] <mtc267chs> problem installing apps with wine, please help
[02:08] <Mr_Bad_News> little tips and tricks that they dont talk about in most scripting guides
[02:08] <bazhang> fish then it might be time to try the alternate cd
[02:09] <bluefoxx> mheath: found it, thanks. its "/dev/ht0" for IDE tape drives, which mine is[though i do actually have all interfaces in my system, scsi, pata, sata and such. sata sucks though, bad controller for it]
[02:09] <Daisuke_Ido> mtc267chs, try #wine or winehq.org
[02:09] <Dr_willis> Mr_Bad_News,  if you really want to use mininimal ram, You may want to install a very veyr very light window manager like jwm,
[02:09] <fish> alternate cd?
[02:09] <Daisuke_Ido> Mr_Bad_News, hang out here for a while :)
[02:09] <mtc267chs> #wine is completly silent
[02:09] <fish> i did the check sourcse thing again and it said this install cd was fine again
[02:09] <bazhang> fish the alternate cd is a text-based install cd that does well when the livecd chokes
[02:09] <mtc267chs> winehq no solution
[02:09] <Dr_willis> With Linux - it pays to read, read, read, watch for bargin bin books, get them.. and read read read...
[02:09] <fish> oh
[02:10] <palomer> what's the gnome app to burn isos to dvd?
[02:10] <Moridin333> gnome baker
[02:10] <Mr_Bad_News> i have a couple books on linux shell scripting Dr_willis  and hacking ubuntu but none have the things that i want to learn and i wouldnt know what to search most of the time
[02:10] <mheath> bluefoxx: No problem
[02:10] <khem> so what should we do with flash problem can we use gnash instead is it better ?
[02:10] <palomer> thx
[02:10] <Moridin333> np
[02:10] <fish> bazhang: got any info on the alternate cd? where do i find it
[02:10] <slashjamiec> Hey, has anyone tried the beta?
[02:10] <bazhang> mtc267chs: #winehq no solution or no immediate solution? we can give a quick answer here, but it might be the wrong answer--which do you prefer? quick or right?
[02:10] <bpd1069> Is there a way to do an upgrade from 7.10 to 8.04 Beta , and use the CDROM iso as a repository?  I have the 8.04 beta iso but am not happy about waiting 4+ hours to download packages that are sitting on my desk.
[02:11] <achandrashekar> Hello Im running 6.06 ppc on a couple of boxes...id like to do a distribution upgrade..how do i do this?
[02:11] <bluefoxx> "tar: Removing leading `/' from member names"   how do i fix that? i only want to  backup two directories, not my entire /home directory :\
[02:11] <mheath> bpd1069: support for Hardy (including installation) is in #ubuntu+1
[02:11] <Moridin333> bpd1069 I would wait for 9 days.  that's when it comes out of beta and there should be an upgrade option without using a cd
[02:11] <bpd1069> thanks
[02:11] <bazhang> http://releases.ubuntu.com/7.10/ right here fish
[02:11] <mtc267chs> if you know anything i could try, it'll help
[02:11] <Dr_willis> Mr_Bad_News,  The Orieally book on Using Bash - is a must get. :) At one time i had a book by redhat that was basicially a printout of all the man pages.  Not sure if those are still  being printed or not.
[02:12] <Mr_Bad_News> the man pages are kind of vague for a newb
[02:12] <fish> thanks
[02:12] <fish> i will try that then
[02:12] <Moridin333> Mr_Bad_News, I would highly recomend Linux in a Nutshell from Orielly
[02:12] <Mr_Bad_News> k
[02:13] <Moridin333> It's more than just man pages.  But it's a lot of reading.  you kinda have to like teaching yourself if you want to get really good with command line.  I have quite a ways to go myself
[02:13] <Mr_Bad_News> last time i tried installing vmware i did the sudo apt-get install build-essential linux-headers-`uname -r` and when i rebooted my computer was f***ed
[02:14] <elmer> What is the way to output text in a shell script?
[02:14] <andyxhw> hello.In Linux, what kinds of Input Method do Arabian use ? thanks
[02:14] <Moridin333> command > text file
[02:14] <pitr256> command >textfile
[02:15] <jrib> elmer: echo.  You should read the scripting guides on tldp.org
[02:15] <elmer> Thanks jrib. That is what I needed.
[02:15] <elmer> I thought it was print
[02:15] <Moridin333> oops.  thx jrib
[02:15] <Moridin333> output to screen or file?
[02:16] <andyxhw> who can tell me what kinds of Input Method do Arabian use ?
[02:16] <drivertest> I'm trying to write a linux char device driver, and I am able to cat the file, and it will call the (open) function i have written, but when i try to write to the file i get permission denided, does anyone have any ideas?  I have implemented the function and included it in the fops structure.  Anyone have any ideas, or an idea where i could get assistance from?
[02:16] <achandrashekar> anyone on how to do a ppc 6.06 upgrade to 7.10?
[02:17] <GoodBoyRyan> hello
[02:17] <GoodBoyRyan> anyone ver heard of blubet
[02:17] <GoodBoyRyan> www.blubet.com
[02:17] <Mr_Bad_News> Dr_willis, do you know how to set a shortcut in xfce to maximize windows
[02:17] <GoodBoyRyan> its a cool site
[02:18] <bazhang> GoodBoyRyan: what does that have to do with ubuntu support
[02:18] <jrib> GoodBoyRyan: do you have an ubuntu support question?
[02:18] <GoodBoyRyan> oh sorry
[02:18] <GoodBoyRyan> i thought it was just a chat room
[02:18] <GoodBoyRyan> omg
[02:18] <GoodBoyRyan> sorry
[02:18] <GoodBoyRyan> i am new to this thing
[02:18] <GoodBoyRyan> btw what is ubuntu
[02:19] <jrib> GoodBoyRyan: we chat in #ubuntu-offtopic.  This channel is for support of Ubuntu, a linux distribution
[02:19] <bazhang> achandrashekar: you want a fresh install? otherwise you need to go from 6.06 to 7.10 with every version in between
[02:19] <fish> bazhang: this means installing Ub all over again, right?
[02:19] <bat21win> Wow.... if you don't know what ubuntu is, you may be on the wrong server.
[02:19] <MrStitch> GoodBoyRyan: Oh boy... you're in for a world of hurt. hahahha j/k
[02:19] <icesword> GoodBoyRyan, --------->#ubuntu-offtopic
[02:19] <fish> bazhang: because that sucks because I will lose all my settings and preferences and install aps
[02:19] <bazhang> fish you got it installed? I thought the live cd did not boot
[02:19] <Odd-rationale> !ubuntu | GoodBoyRyan
[02:19] <ubotu> GoodBoyRyan: Ubuntu is a complete Linux-based operating system, freely available with both community and professional support. It is developed by a large community and we invite you to participate too! - Also see http://www.ubuntu.com
[02:19] <fish> its instaklled
[02:20] <GoodBoyRyan> ok i'll check it out
[02:20] <fish> bazhang: not a livecd
[02:20] <Odd-rationale> lol
[02:20] <bazhang> ah fish then that is a different story; so many installs yesterday that I lost track sorry
[02:20] <achandrashekar> bazhang: well..as you might remember...i had the woes with 7.10 install on ppc. 6.06 installs fine on the g4s..and now im thinking upgrade...so how do i go about it exactly...i read some of the how to's but the upgrade manager shows ability to upgrade to 7.10.
[02:20] <Kedavra> He can't find his way around IRC, I doubt he can handle a Linux OS. At least not right off the bat =P
[02:20] <andyxhw> hello.In Linux, what kinds of Input Method do Arabian use ? thanks
[02:20] <gaspipe1> hey people
[02:20] <fish> bazhang: np
[02:21] <achandrashekar> bazhang: that was..shows "no" ability..sorry.
[02:21] <GoodBoyRyan> which chat rooms are normal just for fun chat rooms
[02:21] <gaspipe1> i was wondering if someone could direct me to a link
[02:21] <bazhang> not here GoodBoyRyan
[02:21] <jrib> GoodBoyRyan: #ubuntu-offtopic
[02:21] <MrStitch> GoodBoyRyan: probably hottub, if it's still around.
[02:21] <achandrashekar> !ask
[02:21] <ubotu> Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[02:22] <GoodBoyRyan> is ubuntu a kind of version like windows xp or so
[02:22] <GoodBoyRyan> just asking want to learn more
[02:22] <MrStitch> Run man, RUN!
[02:22] <MrStitch> hahhaha
[02:22] <gaspipe1> I have a dual boot XP and Ubuntu, my ubuntu "side" of the HDD is maxed out, it won't let me log in. It's about time that I install the newest one anyway.
[02:22] <mneptok> GoodBoyRyan: please /join #ubuntu-offtopic
[02:22] <JPSman> How do I create a launcher?
[02:22] <icesword> lol
[02:23] <fish> JPSman: right-click on desktop and click Create Launcher
[02:23] <gaspipe1> I remember when installing I had to partition the drive (into 2 different parts I think for Ubuntu)
[02:23] <MrStitch> GoodBoyRyan: just go to Ubuntu.com (or whatever the URL is), they got all the info. And yes, it's another OS, like xp... but better... supposedly... I'm still getting to the bottom of that.
[02:23] <fish> JPSman: you will need to know that command line to run the probrame
[02:23] <achandrashekar> gasipel1: not sure if single user mode from a boot disk will allow you then remove files... but that might work?
[02:23] <bazhang> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ubuntu GoodBoyRyan
[02:23] <gaspipe1> how would I reInstall this updated version without messing up XP
[02:23] <GoodBoyRyan> thanks
[02:24] <elmer> gaspipe1, you should look into dual-booting or wubi
[02:24] <achandrashekar> bazhang: basically I need to go to 6.10 alternate, then 7.00, then 7.10?
[02:24] <elmer> gaspipe1, let me google both of those for you
[02:24] <bazhang> gaspipe1: which updated version? you mean the next release or the current stable release
[02:24] <gaspipe1> elmer: TY so much
[02:24] <elmer> gaspipe1, Wubi: http://wubi-installer.org/
[02:24] <gaspipe1> bazhang: I have current stable version
[02:25] <elmer> gaspipe1, Dual booting: http://howtoforge.com/dual_boot_windows_xp_vista_ubuntu_feisty
[02:25] <bazhang> achandrashekar: 6.06--->6.10---->7.04---->7.10
[02:25] <elmer> gaspipe1, don't worry that it is for 7.04. It works with 7.10.
[02:25] <gaspipe1> bazhang: i also used the 64 bit, but i think i want to use the normal since i had issues try'n to use Wine
[02:25] <fish> bazhang: I dont mean to overload you but can you suggest a next step to my problem? I am unable to give any kind of errors because the verbose mode is off, should I turn that on and get the erros into pastebin for you?
[02:25] <kakoonia> im trying to run gtk-theme-manager, but nothing happens? any1 got idea?
[02:26] <bazhang> gaspipe1: if you want to switch arches (64bit to 32bit) then you need to completely reinstall
[02:26] <kakoonia> im running ubuntu-gutsy+compiz
[02:26] <GoodBoyRyan> its such a big program 4.4 gigs
[02:26] <bazhang> fish if you turn off quiet and make note of the errors that would be helpful thanks
[02:26] <gaspipe1> would Ubuntu "know" not to reformat or somehtin. not sure the right way to phrase this but I want the newer ubuntu to install where I had it
[02:26] <JohnK`> i'm having a weird issue between compiz and KDE 3.5
[02:26] <mneptok> kakoonia: most GTK themes are not compatible with Compiz
[02:27] <JohnK`> i installed kicker-compiz to try to resove an issue with virtual desktops
[02:27] <JohnK`> but now i can't get more than one virtual desktop
[02:27] <JohnK`> and i uninstalled kicker-compiz
[02:27] <JohnK`> because i want it to work the old way
[02:27] <pitr256> gaspipe1: when you install choose custom partition
[02:27] <JohnK`> but i can't get kicker to let me have more than one virtual desktop
[02:27] <fish> bazhang: Ok so in the grub bootloader menu, i hit "e" and then select "quiet" and then hit "d" then "b" to boot?
[02:27] <andyxhw> hello.In Linux, what kinds of Input Method do Arabian use ? thanks
[02:27] <JohnK`> anyone have any idea how to fix that? :(
[02:27] <pitr256> then utilize only the linux partition
[02:27] <kakoonia> mneptok: ok, and if im diabling compiz, how can i run the gtk0theme-manager?
[02:27] <kakoonia> disabling**
[02:27] <fevel> whats the best way to install kde4 on ubuntu 7.10?
[02:28] <GoodBoyRyan> which is the newest ubuntu?
[02:28] <bazhang> fish aye
[02:28] <MrStitch> question: Does anyone know how you show the list of users that are currently in a channel, with X-chat?
[02:28] <Orbixx> How do I submit a bug report to the developers?
[02:29] <Orbixx> MrStitch: Try /names
[02:29] <JohnK`> MrStitch: you installed xchat-gnome, didn't you..
[02:29] <mneptok> kakoonia: System > Prefs > Appearance
[02:29] <Orbixx> Works with irssi, dunno about xchat.
[02:29] <kakoonia> ah
[02:29] <kakoonia> lol.. Thanks
[02:29] <AutoMatriX> hi folks, I've got a Toshiba M200, ith hangs whent I'm rebooting .... can someone help ?
[02:29] <bazhang> andyxhw: ARabian? you must mean arabic right?
[02:29] <fish> bazhang: OK, i ask because I did that, it didnt go to verbose mode, just loaded normally
[02:29] <tifine> msg nickserv identify <testping>
[02:29] <Orbixx> Whoops.
[02:29] <JohnK`> MrStitch: install the xchat package
[02:29] <Orbixx> LOL
[02:29] <JohnK`> not xchat-gnome
[02:30] <MrStitch> I installed whatever was in the Synaptic Package Manager
[02:30] <JohnK`> yeah
[02:30] <Jeffrey1> GoodBoyRyan, 7.10.  8.04 will be out in 10 days.
[02:30] <JohnK`> open a terminal and do sudo apt-get install xchat
[02:30] <kreative> im really having trouble mounting my ntfs drive
[02:30] <kreative> iv looked and looked all day. finally im comming here for help.
[02:30] <JohnK`> xchat-gnome doesn't support the userlist
[02:30] <Orbixx> Really?
[02:30] <JohnK`> period.
[02:30] <Orbixx> My NTFS drive mounts.
[02:30] <GoodBoyRyan> cool
[02:30] <Orbixx> Automatically.
[02:30] <JohnK`> mine does too
[02:30] <JohnK`> read-only but it mounts
[02:30] <Orbixx> Mine mounts with write access.
[02:30] <kreative> I'd like read/write access
[02:30] <JPSman> Fish: I tried that but I get a "there was an error creating a child process for this terminal"
[02:30] <bazhang> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=412392 andyxhw
[02:31] <GoodBoyRyan> thnx everyone maybe someday when i have it i will come here with my problems thnx bye bye
[02:31] <MrStitch> weird... i mean... thats such an OLD option/thingy/whatever-you-wanna-call-it.
[02:31] <Orbixx> command
[02:31] <MrStitch> mIRC's been doing it for eons
[02:31] <JohnK`> MrStitch: yeah, it's annoying.
[02:31] <JohnK`> but the xchat package is straight-up xchat
[02:31] <Orbixx> feature!
[02:31] <JohnK`> xchat-gnome isn't
[02:31] <Orbixx> MrStitch: Install irssi.
[02:31] <MrStitch> JohnK - that tells me nothing. hahahaha
[02:31] <andyxhw> bazhang, arabic. thanks
[02:31] <Orbixx> sudo apt-get install irssi
[02:32] <bazhang> andyxhw: see the link above
[02:32] <JohnK`> MrStitch: short of installing xchat, instead of xchat-gnome, there's no way you can enable the userlist :P
[02:32] <JohnK`> okay this is seriously pissing me off. i can't get more than one virtual workspace enabled at once
[02:32] <fish> JPSman: what are you launching?
[02:32] <twistage> Whats the easiest way to manually configure your IP in Gutsy?
[02:32] <andyxhw> bazhang,  thanks.
[02:33] <skarface> twistage: do you have the network icon in your panel?
[02:33] <JPSman> Fish: Phun
[02:33] <fish> JPSman: ok, one moment
[02:33] <twistage> skarface: Yeah, i'm trying to do a manual config on my wireless network, but it won't recognize it that way. Only on roaming mode
[02:34] <skarface> ah
[02:34] <`Luke> anyone, could someone give me a hand, installing drivers for a nvidia 6800 :(
[02:35] <orochi_> Hello :> Anyone here successfully running KDE4 in 7.10?
[02:35] <`Luke> id hate to go back to windows... but man.. i just cant install drivers...
[02:35] <HelloWorld10> i have a question on performing backup by using partimage, can backup be done within ubuntu itself?
[02:35] <Orbixx> So what nice visual effects do I get now I've installed my nvidia drivers?
[02:35] <Daisuke_Ido> orochi_, i would imagine so, it's available and has been for a couple months now
[02:36] <Orbixx> How do I get that cube that can rotate around?
[02:36] <orochi_> Daisuke_Ido, True, I was wondering if anyone had any specific problems with it before I installed it :> GNOME is working fine for me now but I figured I'd give it a try
[02:36] <Daisuke_Ido> !compiz > Orbixx (see private message)
[02:36] <`Luke> nobody knows? :( oh well
[02:36] <Daisuke_Ido> orochi_, it's still not perfect, and won't be for some time
[02:36] <JohnK`> does anyone have any idea? -.-
[02:36] <pitr256> Luke: have you installed the restricted drivers?
[02:37] <Daisuke_Ido> but it is more or less functional
[02:37] <Daisuke_Ido> it's down to love it or hate it with most people
[02:37] <`Luke> how do i do that.. i been at this 3 hrs.
[02:37] <JohnK`> I can't get the Number of Desktops in CompizConfig to go above 1.
[02:37] <fish> bazhang: OK, i ask because I did that, it didnt go to verbose mode, just loaded normally (regarding the process for rebooting in verbose mode)
[02:37] <Orbixx> Strange.
[02:37] <JohnK`> i'm using KDE 3.5
[02:37] <Orbixx> I'm trying to start firefox.
[02:37] <Orbixx> The taskbar brings up "starting firefox"
[02:37] <Orbixx> It disappears.
[02:37] <Orbixx> And doesn't load.
[02:37] <JohnK`> Orbixx: killall firefox-bin?
[02:38] <Orbixx> no process killed
[02:38] <JohnK`> odd.
[02:38] <Orbixx> Indeed.
[02:38] <bazhang> !cube | Orbixx
[02:38] <ubotu> Orbixx: Compiz-Fusion (and the older Compiz and Beryl) are window managers that employ the "composite" extension of X to draw windows using graphics cards' 3D hardware. They can additionally provide "desktop special effects" (such as the "cube") by means of plug-ins. Join #compiz-fusion for help and support with advanced features. See also « /msg ubotu compiz » and « /msg ubotu effects »
[02:38] <Orbixx> Would it have something to do with a massive update that is just partaking this very moment?
[02:38] <Shadow420> Orbixx what GUI are u using GNOME KDE or Xfc?
[02:38] <JohnK`> oh
[02:38] <JohnK`> orbixx, killall firefox
[02:38] <Luke> pitr256: what?
[02:38] <fish> JPSman: is that the whole error or is there mor?
[02:38] <Orbixx> No process killed.
[02:38] <nullbnx> whats the ubuntu server room?
[02:38] <Orbixx> Shadow420: Gnome.
[02:38] <JohnK`> wait, are you upgrading, orbixx?
[02:39] <JohnK`> that happened to me.
[02:39] <HelloWorld10> could anyone advise me about my question?
[02:39] <Orbixx> I'm upgrading packages.
[02:39] <JohnK`> while i was upgrading
[02:39] <Daisuke_Ido> nullbnx, #ubuntu-server
[02:39] <JohnK`> to 8.04\
[02:39] <Orbixx> No.
[02:39] <Orbixx> Not upgrading Ubuntu version.
[02:39] <Orbixx> Just packages.
[02:39] <Shadow420> HelloWorld10 what is your question
[02:39] <JohnK`> so does anyone have ANY idea why i can't get the number of desktops to go above 1 in CompizConfig?
[02:39]  * JohnK` sighs
[02:39] <bazhang> JohnK`: ccsm general settings--->virtual horizon desktops set to 4
[02:39] <HelloWorld10> Shadow, the question is..
[02:39] <HelloWorld10> i have a question on performing backup by using partimage, can backup be done within ubuntu itself?
[02:40] <JohnK`> bazhang: but that dosen't work right with kicker
[02:40] <HelloWorld10> just a silly Q
[02:40] <HelloWorld10> ;D
[02:40] <JPSman> fish: thats the whole error
[02:40] <Shadow420> HelloWorld10 does partimage have a gui?
[02:40] <JohnK`> kicker won't let me go above one either
[02:40] <JohnK`> and it's frustrating
[02:40] <JohnK`> because i'm used to having multiple desktops.
[02:40] <JohnK`> and i can only have one.
[02:40] <HelloWorld10> Shadows420, yes, it does
[02:41]  * AutoMatriX sis so sorry to repeat his question : I've got a Toshiba M200, ith hangs whent I'm rebooting .... can someone help ?
[02:41] <Shadow420> HelloWorld10 then I wouldn't see why not
[02:41] <bazhang> JohnK`: best bet is to join the compiz channel-->how critical of a problem is this? sounds mainly aesthetic
[02:41] <Shadow420> HelloWorld10 then but if it doesn't work use gparted
[02:41] <HelloWorld10> Shadows420, well, but i will need to umount the / before going further, yet while i go to umount /, it said, the device is busy
[02:42] <JohnK`> bazhang: it's more than aesthetic because it affects my productivity
[02:42] <Shadow420> HelloWorld10 thats because you are currently using the partition
[02:42] <kreative> im still having problems with the ntfs mount
[02:42] <fish> JPSman: in the create launcher dialog, are you selecting "Aplication" or "Aplication in terminal"?
[02:42] <HelloWorld10> Shadow420, gparted can perform backup fastly?
[02:43] <fish> +p +p
[02:43] <`Luke> i got a   linux-restricted-modules-2.6.22-14-generic   must instal... how do i do that...  kinda new,
[02:43] <bazhang> JohnK`: but 8 messages in 3 minutes here? /j #compiz-fusion
[02:43] <Orbixx> bazhang: Is Compiz-Fusion in the repos somewhere?
[02:43] <travisat> HelloWorld10: your best bet for a backup is either only backup files you need to save or use another computer or live cd
[02:43] <JPSman> fish: it needs a text file to start it running
[02:43] <Shadow420> HelloWorld10 I am not qutie sure never used it for that but it's quick you can use it on the System Rescue CD
[02:43] <bazhang> Orbixx: you need to install ccsm (compizconfig-settings-manager)
[02:44] <Orbixx> Can't find it.
[02:44] <Shadow420> HelloWorld10 it also depends on how much data you have stored
[02:44] <HelloWorld10> travisat, erm...in fact, im a new learner...i have to back up before doing anything wrong that i couldn't handle
[02:44] <bazhang> Orbixx: where did you look
[02:44] <JPSman> fish: well that was application in terminal.  With just "application" nothing happens
[02:44] <Orbixx> Standard repositories.
[02:44] <Shadow420> Orbixx do sudo apt-get install ccsm
[02:44] <Orbixx> I did.
[02:45] <Orbixx> E: Couldn't find package ccsm
[02:45] <HelloWorld10> Shadow420, yeah, im now going for system rescue cd to do backup
[02:45] <nickrud> Orbixx compizconfig-settings-manager
[02:45] <travisat> HelloWorld10: well in that case the safest way is to have a separate home partition and if you mess up you can reinstall without losing the data in your home directory
[02:45] <Shadow420> Orbixx you may have to enable the multiverse repos
[02:45] <Orbixx> nickrud: You are the font of knowledge.
[02:45] <bazhang> sudo apt-get install fullnameofpackage which is compizconfig-settings-manager Orbixx
[02:45] <Orbixx> Alright, ccsm is installed.
[02:45] <Orbixx> Is that it?
[02:45] <nickrud> bazhang you are so sloooowww ;)
[02:46] <Orbixx> As that was too easy.
[02:46] <bazhang> nickrud: so true
[02:46] <bazhang> Orbixx: now you should go over to #compiz-fusion
[02:46] <HelloWorld10> travisat, ic, yet i perfer backing up the whole system to doing reinstallation, if the former goes faster
[02:46] <HelloWorld10> ;D
[02:46] <Orbixx> I ought to restart.
[02:47] <Orbixx> Got a few updates nagging me.
[02:47] <reya276> Hello
[02:47] <Shadow420> I don't need any fancy effects I prefer ubuntu to stay at the speed it is
[02:47] <reya276> Can anyone tell me how to run "wacom-tools"
[02:48] <nickrud> reya276 dpkg -L wacom-tools | grep /bin will show you the executables
[02:48] <travisat> HelloWorld10: ah ic http://ping.windowsdream.com/ping.html
[02:48] <travisat> HelloWorld10: there are other options for live-cds available
[02:48] <mountainma1> hey, i'm trying to find an iso for ubuntu 7.10 to make a live cd -- but when i check them with md5sum they are corrupt.  yes my cd is blank, yes i've tried different mirrors, yes i've tried torrents and no i don' want to wait six weeks for a cd to be mailed.  any ideas?
[02:48] <Dr_willis> I recall the wacom  packages installed some docs in /usr/share/doc/wacom* also
[02:48] <HelloWorld10> travisat, does that mean im lagging?
[02:49]  * HelloWorld10 @@
[02:49] <fish> JPSman: I am afraid I cannot answer you question. I am sorry but I dont know the answer and I was unable to find it. Perhaps someone else here my know how JPSman can create a launcher for the program "Phun" without getting the error: "there was an error creating a child process for this terminal" ?
[02:49] <reya276> nickrud: thanks let me try that
[02:49] <travisat> HelloWorld10: ie http://www.sysresccd.org/Main_Page
[02:49] <HelloWorld10> travisat, i c...thanks
[02:49] <HelloWorld10> im going for that
[02:49] <travisat> HelloWorld10: good luck
[02:49] <Mr_Bad_News> has anyone ever installed more ram into their laptop?
[02:49] <HelloWorld10> Shadow420 & travisat, thank you very much for the advice! ;D
[02:49] <nickrud> reya276 and as Dr_willis said, /usr/share/doc/wacom-tools .  grepping the output of the dpkg -L  for /man will show you some more docs
[02:50] <bazhang> Mr_Bad_News: sure
[02:50] <Mr_Bad_News> i have a dell inspiron 8600
[02:50] <Mr_Bad_News> do i have to take it apart completely to put the ram in?
[02:50] <Shadow420> HelloWorld10 not a problem glad to e of help
[02:50] <bazhang> Mr_Bad_News: check the manual for where to put it
[02:50] <nickrud> Mr_Bad_News almost certainly there's a little panel on the bottom you open up to get access to the ram slots
[02:50] <mountainma1> travisat-- live cd options u mentioned...can u help me out
[02:50] <Mr_Bad_News> there is nickrud
[02:50] <Mr_Bad_News> but they seem fixed
[02:50] <travisat> mountainma1: I don't know, what is your problem
[02:51] <JPSman> fish:thank you for trying
[02:51] <HelloWorld10> thanks, ciao for now
[02:51] <Mr_Bad_News> and i dont want to take the chance of bending or breaking something
[02:51] <fish> anyone knwo how I might enable verbose mode
[02:51] <luciddream> hi, I've installed some startup scripts in /etc/init.d/ and put corresponding links in the /etc/rc#.d directories, I think.  My services aren't starting at startup though -- is there a log or something I can check to see what's going wrong?  They start fine if I start them manually from the command line.
[02:51] <fish> JPSman: No Problem, Again, I am sorry that i was unable to help.
[02:51] <nickrud> Mr_Bad_News then you'd best look a the manual, or maybe google for 'replace ram chips inspiron 8600'
[02:51] <Shadow420> hey I have CD iso of grub and I want to burn it to a CD-RW and make it bootable how do I do that?
[02:51] <Orbixx> Firefox still isn't starting :-<
[02:52] <travisat> Shadow420: cdrecord -t nameof.iso
[02:52] <mountainma1> travisat: hey, i'm trying to find an iso for ubuntu 7.10 to make a live cd -- but when i check them with md5sum they are corrupt.  yes my cd is blank, yes i've tried different mirrors, yes i've tried torrents and no i don' want to wait six weeks for a cd to be mailed.  any ideas?
[02:52] <bazhang> mountainma1: how about gettting the minimal iso? that is only 9MB and is less likely to be corrupt--that way you can see if it is a software or a hardware problem
[02:52] <nickrud> Shadow420 on ubuntu? right click iso and say burn.
[02:52] <gaspipe1> anyone have a sec for an install?
[02:52] <gaspipe1> i'm running ubuntu from a live cd
[02:52] <`Luke> OK THATS IT, GOING BAKC TO WINDOWS, this is BS
[02:52] <travisat> mountainma1: have you tried teh torrent?  http downloads can get corrupted if you have a bad connection
[02:52] <`Luke> 8 hrs to install a freaking video and sound card...
[02:52] <gaspipe1> trying to do a fresh install on the partitions that i have created b4
[02:52] <bazhang> bye `Luke
[02:52]  * nickrud thinks he's gonna hear that a lot in the next few weeks
[02:53] <gaspipe1> i have 3 partitions
[02:53] <mountainma1> bazhang - where might i get a minimal iso?
[02:53] <Shadow420> nickrud travisat ok but when I put the cd in ubuntu doesn't reconize it
[02:53] <Orbixx> nickrud: I assume that'll be with Ubuntu 8.0+?
[02:53] <mountainma1> travisat: yes i tried a torrent, same problem when i did an md5sum check
[02:53] <nickrud> Orbixx yes
[02:53] <Orbixx> Heh.
[02:53] <reya276> nickrud: how can I know if the system is actually recognizing the wacom tablet device because it does not work
[02:53] <zero88> Who could tell me how to install kde themes?
[02:53] <magic_ninja> anyone use vmware here
[02:53] <travisat> mountainma1: are you sure you have the right md5 for the file?
[02:53] <zero88> <3 KDE
[02:53] <gaspipe1> (sdb1 which is 67gb for xp)
[02:53] <fish> `Luke, try 8 days..... I am still working on it.
[02:53] <nickrud> reya276 now that, I'm not sure of I've never owned one
[02:53] <overrider> hello guys, i am trying to get my dual monitor setup working: laptop lcd and a dvi connected monitor. is this mentioned somewhere, can someone point me to somewhere to read please, or some utility or so? thanks
[02:54] <bazhang> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD mountainma1
[02:54] <mountainma1> travisat: nope, sure aren't...not too familiar with the md5 stuff.  tried to just follow along a tutorial
[02:54] <zero88> Or is there a KDE Ubuntu room?
[02:54] <fish> `Luke: The solution is there, you just need to ask the right person
[02:54] <travisat> mountainma1: look at bazhangs link
[02:54] <Itaku> magic_ninja: i use vmware workstation whatcha need?
[02:54] <Odd-rationale> !kubuntu | zero88
[02:54] <ubotu> zero88: Kubuntu is Ubuntu with KDE, the K Desktop Environment, instead of Gnome. See http://kubuntu.org for more information - For support: #kubuntu - See also !KDE
[02:54] <aanderse> does anyone here have a 30 inch apple monitor working with ubuntu?
[02:54] <babbe> how do i see what programs are running in shell command line ?
[02:54] <gaspipe1> (sdb2 which is ext3 says mount point /media/sdb2 also is 11.9 gb))
[02:54] <mountainma1> bazhang: with a minimal iso will i be able to do a complete install with it, as the system i'm trying to get running is unbootable right now
[02:54] <zero88> lol thanks
[02:54] <`Luke> all i want to do is play, WoW, without graphics errors... everyone i talk to using ubuntu, isnt having the errors that in getting with similar stats,  and same gpu
[02:54] <Mr_Bad_News> nickrud, when i install them will i need to run any special commands or will it automatically be installed
[02:54] <nickrud> aanderse if you ship it to me, I'll give it a shot
[02:55] <aanderse> -_-
[02:55] <qwstar> how do i disable artsd? the arts package isn't even installed, so i'm not sure what package is providing it (/usr/bin/artsd
[02:55] <nickrud> Mr_Bad_News they'll be recognized automatically
[02:55] <Mr_Bad_News> ok
[02:55] <Mr_Bad_News> thanks
[02:55] <gaspipe1> then last  sdb3 which is the swap with 1283 mb
[02:55] <IndyGunFreak> Luke: then ask everyone what they're doing that your not.
[02:55] <bazhang> mountainma1: most of it will be what you choose; and involve downloading what you choose from the net
[02:55] <magic_ninja> Itaku: when i run "vmware" from a command line it launches a web interface and its a fresh install, but no login/pw set
[02:55] <nickrud> aanderse my usual response when I'm jealous ;)
[02:55] <Orbixx> nickrud: You wouldn't happen to know what could be causing my Firefox not to execute, would you? Any common problems? This is a fresh install.
[02:56] <xtknight> i'm getting a raid5 resync on my /dev/md1, but i don't know why.  this happened after a pretty severe crash.  so how can i tell which HD is going south?  it has already completed this resync a day ago, and another one has started for some odd reason.  no crash has happened between the two resyncs.
[02:56] <`Luke> i cant get my sound to work, to talk on ventrilo, and i cant get my gpu to work to load WoW and ask em :(
[02:56] <drivertest> Running a command as sudo should make you run the command as root, correct?
[02:56] <gaspipe1> i would like to keep those partitions and leave the sdb1 ntfs alone (xp), and reforma the other 2 with a fresh install of ubuntu
[02:56] <Orbixx> drivertest: Yes.
[02:56] <bazhang> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions fish this might help
[02:56] <fish> `Luke, i learned in Fedora 8 that my problem was with my drivers not playing nice with my current kernel version but I moved to Ubuntu before fixing it because I prefer Ubuntu and If IM gonna put the work in to it I want it to be for Ub
[02:56] <nickrud> `Luke what kind of video card?
[02:56] <jscinoz> hey guys, i have a list of approx 300 files, is there anyway to have ln read this list and link every path in this file to another folder?
[02:56] <teddy> i install some web php applications like webcalendar or any php web program..I expected to see it in /var/www/localhost..but they get installed in /usr/share  . do i have to manually make a symbolic link for every program i install?
[02:56] <drivertest> I am having this issue where i am trying to echo to a file, whose permissions are 655, using sudo, and i am getting permission denied
[02:56] <`Luke> 6800 Nvidia
[02:56] <gaspipe1> but when i try to do it says no root file defined (i also clicked format on sdb2
[02:56] <travisat> `Luke: last time I tried vent with wine it sucked,  I had to run wow in windows in order to raid,  luckily I no longer play hehe
[02:56] <drivertest> however when I do sudo su, and run the same command it works.
[02:57] <nickrud> `Luke if you type glxinfo | grep direct , do you get 'yes' as a response?
[02:57] <gaspipe1> anyone? or was too long winded and confused people
[02:57] <mountainma1> bazhang - so it'll be enough to get my sys up and running?
[02:57] <nonewmsgs>  ok one of my movie files in / (2) has deleted/unused inode 283.  clear<y>?
[02:57] <nonewmsgs> is it ok to say no?
[02:57] <fish> bazhang: ok i will read that and return with some info, thanks bazhang
[02:57] <techqbert> I have java_vm running under top, how can I see what program is using the vm?
[02:57] <`Luke> i have to play WoW in windowed, at lowest settings, and still get 4FPS, because of the newest patch,
[02:57] <travisat> bazhang: is the regular livecd iso corrupted atm?
[02:58] <magic_ninja> Itaku: u there
[02:58] <nickrud> gaspipe1 I'd delete the two other partitions with gparted, and resize one to about 2x ram (up to 2gb) as swap and the rest as the root partition ( / )
[02:58] <nickrud> gaspipe1 s/resize/create/
[02:59] <gaspipe1> nickrud: ya making me nervous lol
[02:59] <bazhang> travisat: no; just mountainma1 is having md5 issues possible hardware issues or media issues so he cant get the iso to burn right
[02:59] <travisat> bazhang: ah ok
[02:59] <bazhang> mountainma1: up and running once you install gnome-desktop yes