[00:06] <KurtKraut> I am using Quantal Quetzal since alpha 1 but in the past two weeks my aptitude full-upgrade shows no new packages, what is odd because I'm used to see package changes in a daily basis in alpha releases. Is that expected?
[00:07] <Daekdroom> KurtKraut, not for two weeks.
[00:07] <Daekdroom> The mirror you're using might be outdated.
[00:07] <JontheEchidna> I've gotten 20 updates today
[00:07] <Daekdroom> It happened to me.
[00:07] <JontheEchidna> scratch that, 60
[00:07] <Daekdroom> earlier in this version.
[00:07] <KurtKraut> I've already changed to two mirrors and no new packages
[00:08] <Daekdroom> Have you tried the main one?
[00:11] <KurtKraut> Daekdroom, in fact no, you're right. It is a valid test.
[01:10] <Darxus> Since I installed quantal in a new partition I haven't been able to get grub installed as I had it from my oneric partition.  I really can't figure out what's going wrong.  I'm booted to oneric, run update-grub, and grub-install /dev/sda, and... I'm not getting the stuff listed in grub when I reboot that I expect.
[01:10] <Darxus> (More accurately, since I upgraded my precise partition to quantal.)
[01:14] <trism> Darxus: what are you getting? maybe pastebin /boot/grub/grub.cfg from oneiric?
[01:14] <Darxus> trism: I'm getting the list of kernel options I expect to see from quantal.
[01:15] <Darxus> But... the grub version displayed is the one from oneric.
[01:15] <trism> Darxus: for the default kernels or from the quantal kernels?
[01:15] <trism> Darxus: err default = oneiric
[01:15] <Darxus>  http://www.chaosreigns.com/tmp/grub.cfg  from oneric
[01:16] <Darxus> trism: It's listing a bunch of quantal kernels and one oneric kernel.  Which is what I expect to see with grub installed from quantal.
[01:17] <Darxus> Like oneric has a bunch of 3.0.x kernels, and quantal has a bunch of 3.5.x kernels or something.
[01:18] <Darxus> How can I tell where grub loaded from, or where I should install grub to?
[01:18] <Darxus> I've been doing /dev/sda, trying /dev/sdb out of desperation.  I also have /dev/sdc and /dev/sdd.
[01:18] <trism> Darxus: the oneiric ones are there, they are just under previous kernels, and I see 3.5.0-11 plus a bunch of 3.2.0 from the precise upgrade I imagine
[01:18] <Darxus> trism: Right, but that stuff isn't what I see when I reboot.
[01:18] <trism> Darxus: oh what do you see?
[01:19] <Darxus> I see mostly 3.5.x kernels.
[01:19] <trism> Darxus: quantal first then oneiric at the end?
[01:19] <trism> Darxus: ahh
[01:19] <Darxus> No, one oneric at the top, then lots of quantal.
[01:20] <Darxus> It looks like quantal successfully overwrote grub, and then every attempt I've made from oneric has not worked.
[01:21] <trism> Darxus: if oneiric is at the top, then oneiric should be managing grub, since the quantal ones in grub.cfg are listed later from os-prober
[01:21] <Darxus> Hmm, okay.
[01:22] <trism> Darxus: but since about oneiric, it hides the extra kernels under "Previous Linux versions", so maybe you are just noticing that now since you reinstalled on oneiric?
[01:22] <trism> Darxus: is oneiric an upgrade?
[01:22] <Darxus> Could be.
[01:22] <Darxus> The oneric partition... I've had for a while, upgraded through a few releases.
[01:23] <Darxus> Trying another reboot...
[01:25] <Darxus> trism: Hah, everything is working as expected now, thank you very much.
[01:26] <Darxus> My actual problem was, my video card needs to be blacklisted for the gfxpayload thing, and I have no idea how I used to have that set up under oneric.  And I guess that got broken when I upgraded quantal.
[01:26] <Darxus> But adding GRUB_GFXPAYLOAD_LINUX=text to /etc/default/grub then updating and installing it worked, now that I expected the order of kernels I was actually seeing.
[01:28] <trism> Darxus: excellent, glad it is working now. I usually install my testing partition using ubiquity -b; so it doesn't touch grub
[01:28] <Darxus> Boot loaders have gotten so much more magical / complicated in the last... 17 years.  Damn.
[01:28] <trism> indeed
[01:29] <Darxus> I miss my completely hand written lilo config files :P
[02:23] <h00k> lol lilo :(
[03:44] <bjsnider> looking forward to the new nautilus: http://afaikblog.files.wordpress.com/2012/08/nautilus.png
[03:51] <tsimpson> or you can use dolphin, and have the same features years ago
[03:52] <IdleOne> heh
[04:04] <bjsnider> yeah, but i'd also have all of the problems with kde to keep me company, and i don't have time for that crap
[11:42] <peterrus> Hey, I still seem to have this issue in an updated version of quantal, could it be that this fix is not yet available in quantal for some reason? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/947723
[12:06] <BluesKaj> howdy folks
[12:18] <philinux> hi BluesKaj
[12:19] <BluesKaj> hi phil
[12:19] <BluesKaj> philinux,
[12:33] <smartboyhw> \o BluesKaj
[12:34] <BluesKaj> hi smartboyhw
[14:42] <tbf> wow! quantal supports disk encryption out of the box with the desktop image?
[14:42] <Pici> yep.
[14:42] <tbf> yeah!
[14:43] <tbf> \O/
[14:43] <tbf> well done everyone
[15:03] <thebishop> hey folks
[15:04] <thebishop> i'm looking forward to trying Beta 1 tomorrow.  Can anyone talk about the current state of support for Synaptics clickpads and power consumption overall?
[15:06] <peterrus> thebishop, my clickpad works almost as it should
[15:06] <peterrus> I had to hack in some palmdetection though
[15:06] <peterrus> and setting the 'disable touchpad while typing' checkbox does nothing, so I had to enable that through a synclient argument
[15:06] <peterrus> power consumption depends on your hardware
[15:07] <peterrus> tbf, do you mean root partition encryption? or just homefolder? because it does that for ages ;)
[15:07] <peterrus> Hey, I still seem to have this issue in an updated version of quantal, could it be that this fix is not yet available in quantal for some reason? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/947723
[15:08] <thebishop> peterrus, is click+drag improved?  On 12.04 I got things mostly working by specifying the right-click boundary using synclient.  but multitouch behaviors (click+drag, drop down boxes, etc) are still a little flakey.  it works but the cursor frequently gets confused
[15:09] <peterrus> thebishop, yes, It seems (not 100% sure) this was fixed a few days ago or so
[15:09] <peterrus> let me try ;)
[15:09] <peterrus> thebishop, yes dragging is fixed, I when my finger reaches the boundary of the clickpad, I can now use another finger to continue dragiing
[15:10] <peterrus> multitouch gestures work as wel
[15:10] <peterrus> I can move a window with 3 fingers
[15:10] <thebishop> for example: if i drag a window to the top of the screen, and don't let go, the cursor is often way above the window
[15:10] <peterrus> and unmaximize it with a 4 finger pinch
[15:11] <peterrus> thebishop, cant seem to reproduce that sorry
[15:11] <thebishop> http://i.imgur.com/9CusK.jpg - the cursor was in "grab/drag" mode before I hit the print screen button
[15:11] <thebishop> i can continue dragging the window, but the cursor is way above the window like that
[15:11] <tbf> peterrus, root partition encryption
[15:12] <peterrus> thebishop, I have never seen this to be honest
[15:12] <thebishop> ah ok
[15:12] <peterrus> so that might be a good sign ;)
[15:12] <thebishop> heh
[15:12] <thebishop> did you use 12.04 a lot?
[15:12] <peterrus> tbf, oh nice!
[15:12] <peterrus> thebishop, not on the desktop no ;)
[15:14] <peterrus> thebishop, about the powerconsumption, I can run my zenbook for 4 hours at least, maybe 5
[15:14] <peterrus> its not as optimal as on windows
[15:14] <peterrus> but it's getting close
[15:22] <thebishop> I get about 3:30 on my Envy 14, after I turn off the dedicated graphics (from the command line), and enable all the tunables in PowerTOP
[15:23] <thebishop> it's using about 16W at that point
[20:11] <silverarrow> hi
[20:11] <silverarrow> how do I go about troubles with installing Quantal beta
[20:11] <silverarrow> ?
[20:12] <silverarrow> the intaller doesn't work on a ibook G4
[20:12] <silverarrow> there were issues with precise too, but a bit different
[20:27] <kanliot> ah silverarrow you're here too
[20:27] <kanliot> https://launchpad.net/bugs/1046175
[20:27] <kanliot> is that your bug?
[20:27] <silverarrow> yeah, I thoug someone  might have an idea abou the live cd installer
[20:28] <silverarrow> no, installer doesn''t even lauch
[20:29] <kanliot> can you get to a console if the pc boots?
[20:36] <silverarrow> I can try
[20:40] <silverarrow> b43-phy0 error
[20:41] <silverarrow> If i don't launch anyting, i get a terminal
[20:41] <silverarrow> I am in terminal now kanliot?
[20:41] <silverarrow> any ideas?
[20:43] <kanliot> silverarrow, type ubuntu-bug ubiquity... see if it opens a web browser
[20:44] <silverarrow> I cant, keyboad is wacked up
[20:46] <jtaylor> how does one get the dash to default on the applications and not music?
[20:46] <jtaylor> it changed with unity 6.4.0
[20:47] <kanliot> silverarrow, just file a bug against ubiquity, and open up http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/232/builds/22623/testcases  < that page and type in the launchpad bug number
[20:48] <kanliot> by "just file a bug" i mean use a working machine to type in a new bug with description and steps
[20:48] <kanliot> make sure you mention it's quantal
[21:02] <silverarrow> crap system for filing bugs
[21:02] <silverarrow> !"#¤
[21:06] <silverarrow> what does this mean ? Invalid bug list, bug numbers must be made of digits and separate by commas.
[21:08] <kanliot> like 1992922
[21:20] <silverarrow> how am I suppose to know wich bug number is next?
[21:20] <silverarrow> j
[21:20] <silverarrow> I like the auto launcher though
[21:20] <silverarrow> I wish I could be wired
[21:20] <silverarrow> I can do it tomorrow
[21:20] <silverarrow> from the autolauncher


[00:00] <arraybolt3> Once you click "Enter Edit Mode", you should be able to click "More Options", then "Remove Panel".
[00:00] <arraybolt3> @PJtunes: ^
 I think that was what I did at first that started to bring out this panels😑 (re @IrcsomeBot: <arraybolt3> (The kubuntu default panel button will just give you a fifth panel most likely.))
 Ok let me try it out (re @IrcsomeBot: <arraybolt3> Once you click "Enter Edit Mode", you should be able to click "More Options", then "Remove Panel".)
 I entered edit mode and it only brought this out : https://irc-attachments.kde.org/e2433213/file_59895.jpg
[00:04] <arraybolt3> You need to right-click the panel you want to remove and then click Enter Edit Mode.
 It brought out this, what do I click next to remove the panel : https://irc-attachments.kde.org/e26fbbd2/file_59896.jpg
 Whoa
 I just removed the panel at the left
 Let me try it out on all of 'em
 I finally removed them😪Thank you very much : https://irc-attachments.kde.org/5a23256f/file_59897.jpg
[00:53] <arraybolt3> @PJtunes: \o/ Glad to help!
[01:15] <tomahawk> i am not feeling well need oxygen
[01:40] <pjabbottii> Is there a way to install nvidia drivers using gui in Kubuntu (KDE Plasma v 5.18.8)
 Oh oh Sorry, get well man 🙏 (re @IrcsomeBot: <tomahawk> i am not feeling well need oxygen)
 It's been a week I left my software update on "manually"
 And I haven't manually downloaded any of the recent updates, hope there'll be no repercussions to this???
[02:43] <Sergey1018> Здравствуйте! Хдесь можно писать по русски?
[02:44] <Sergey1018> /*Здесь
[02:46] <Eickmeyer[m]> !ru | Sergey1018
[02:48] <Sergey1018> После обновления сиситемы у меня перестают работать драйверы встроенной сетевой карты: RTL 8723DU и внешнего "свситка" на RTL 8812 BU. Приходится откатываться TimeShift.
[02:48] <Sergey1018> Как эти драйверы включить снова?
[02:50] <Eickmeyer> !ru | Sergey1018
[02:50] <Sergey1018> ./join #ubuntu-ru
[03:03] <Sergey1018> После обновления сиситемы у меня перестают работать драйверы встроенной сетевой карты: RTL 8723DU и внешнего "свситка" на RTL 8812 BU. Приходится откатываться TimeShift.
[03:03] <Sergey1018> Как эти драйверы включить снова?
[03:06] <Unit193> Sergey1018: Try /join without the leading dot. / Попробуйте /join без ведущей точки.
 Which theme are you using for Fluent UI? If you could perhaps share your setup. (re @PJtunes: )
[03:26] <Sergey1018> After upgrading my system, my internal network card drivers stop working: RTL 8723DU and the external "whistle" to RTL 8812 BU. I have to roll back TimeShift.
[03:26] <Sergey1018> How do I get these drivers to work again?
 hi
 how can i set gnome-screenshot as default
 I'm trying to RDP from a Kubuntu machine into EndeavourOS VM.  xrdp daemon is enabled and running. However, I can't get a connection, only get black screen for less than a second. Am I missing something?
 Before I had to do a complete re-install of that VM, I was able to establish RDP connection. So I'm bit lost now...
[08:30] <Guest59> Hello all,
[08:30] <Guest59> I am looking for some guidance on Ms AD Join for my kubuntu.
[08:30] <Guest59> All done in the sense that I am able to run login command and provide an AD user, and get success on authentication, but when I do it on graphical it fails, except if I am boot my laptop without plugged on the net.
[08:30] <Guest59> So, cache for account password happens, but something from sddm into the plasma fails and makes not possible to authenticate graphically, and since even disconnecting network after stands failling tells me that some PAM integration gets crazy/failing other way would not be able to authenticate even booting without net.
[08:30] <Guest59> Anyone can point me a page for a needful solution?
[08:30] <Guest59> Than you all
 Hi i installed virstual box and when i turned off my laptop it showed me "failed" in red then it turned off
 I fixed it it was the secure boot (re @Omar: Hi i installed virstual box and when i turned off my laptop it showed me "failed" in red then it turned off)
 It's the Win11OS-dark in global theme
 Software:
 Kde plasma version 5.24.4
 KDE frameworks 5.92.0
 Graphics platform: X11 (re @MrigendraB: Which theme are you using for Fluent UI? If you could perhaps share your setup.)
 How did u make the status bar like this? (re @PJtunes: It's the Win11OS-dark in global theme
 Software:
 Kde plasma version 5.24.4
 KDE frameworks 5.92.0
 Graphics platform: X11)
[12:57] <BluesKaj> Hi all
 May be you can install SegorUI font too. (re @PJtunes: It's the Win11OS-dark in global theme
 Software:
 Kde plasma version 5.24.4
 KDE frameworks 5.92.0
 Graphics platform: X11)
 May be you can install SegoeUI font too. (re @PJtunes: It's the Win11OS-dark in global theme
 Hi
 The right click on my touchpad is not doing anything
 Most probably in settings double touch is enabled as right click rather than the right button on touchpad. (re @Omar: The right click on my touchpad is not doing anything)
 No poth of them was working (re @MrigendraB: Most probably in settings double touch is enabled as right click rather than the right button on touchpad.)
 How to check what right button on touchpad do?
 And volume short cut (f2,f3) are not doing anything
 anyone got this updates? : https://irc-attachments.kde.org/1b4b6a3d/file_59918.jpg
 I think i did (re @XDcafisLookingGoodandsmoothasf: )
 I got but they were held back (re @XDcafisLookingGoodandsmoothasf: )
[17:38] <user|99> can't detect internal mic on hp chromebook 14a
[17:38] <user|99> can someone help me
[18:33] <user|99> cant detect internal mic on hp chromebook 14amacallan|
 Sorry for the late reply
 It's default from the retail shop I got the PC
 I didn't make it that way (re @Omar: How did u make the status bar like this?)
 Okay (re @MrigendraB: May be you can install SegoeUI font too.)


[00:06] <diddledan> spare?!
[00:07] <diddledan> I've got one with a core2extreme (quad but more leccy-hungry) in it
[00:22] <daftykins> do you have the model at all?
[00:23] <daftykins> my current one makes use of an ICH9R's RAID, 'tis an X38 northbridge too
[00:23] <diddledan> the board?
[00:23] <diddledan> MSI 975X Platinum Powerup Edition
[00:24] <daftykins> ah a little old sadly, ICH7 and 975X
[00:25] <diddledan> yeah, tis ancient
[00:25] <daftykins> must be a component gone on mine or something, the way it exhibits different behaviour depending on the order i do things :/
[00:25] <daftykins> i came up with a nice couple on ebay but one is £60 and another has 3 days to go
[06:55] <diplo> Morning all
[06:57] <MooDoo> morning
[07:43] <brobostigon> morning boys and girls.
[07:47] <bittin> morning
[07:49] <brobostigon> morning bittin
[07:50] <SuperMatt> good day
[08:37] <diddledan> grr @ pneumatic drillers outside
[08:37] <diplo> Had a similar issue here, an alarm going off from 07:45 till 9am
[08:38] <diplo> Was driving me insance
[08:38] <diplo> -c
[08:38] <davmor2> Morning all
[08:38] <davmor2> diddledan: could be worse, could be inside
[08:38] <diddledan> my next-door neighbour is having an on-off yelling match with someone, too
[08:39] <diddledan> police were here yesterday so I’m thinking he’s reprising the combat
[08:41] <knightwise> morning
[08:41] <diplo> Sounds a lovely place to live diddledan
[08:43] <JamesTait> Good morning all!  Happy Thursday, and happy Meteor Watch Day! 😃 🌠
[08:47] <knightwise> There :) Pihole installed on my digitalOcean Droplet and set as default DNS on my work machine :)
[08:47] <knightwise> Clean !
[08:52] <davmor2> JamesTait: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qriH-8yeqcE and https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V3UGELpdQ48 I think that covers you
[09:07] <knightwise> morning peeps
[09:10] <knightwise> Hmm.. my pihole isnt behaving
[09:11] <davmor2> knightwise: either fill it with food so you can't talk then or buy a zipper and padlock it closed? ;)
[09:15] <knightwise> its my DNS server :p
[09:25] <popey> bigcalm: happy birthday
[09:41] <A1108-Guest> I here serve a legal declaration that Alan Pope, of Farnborough, Hampshire, has knowingly participated in the breaking of the European Directive 95/46/EC.
[09:43] <TwistedLucidity> knightwise: I can recommend OpenWRT with dnsmasq and pixelsrv for blocking magicks.
[09:53] <diddledan> what’s pinhole?
[09:53] <diddledan> pihole
[09:56] <knightwise> Dns server that filters out adds
[09:56] <diddledan> aha
[09:56] <zmoylan-pi> nice
[09:57] <TwistedLucidity> I just do it on the router
[09:57] <zmoylan-pi> something not all routers make possible
[09:57] <TwistedLucidity> Although, if you're stuck with a ISP-provided brick, a pihole is an excellent idea
[09:58] <TwistedLucidity> Heck, any network kit you have running 24/7 could do it as well I guess
[10:05] <diplo> Wondering when that was going to happen :P
[10:08] <TwistedLucidity> Who was nawty?
[10:09] <TwistedLucidity> Ah, I see now
[10:09] <TwistedLucidity> I assumed it was some kind of in-joke
[10:10] <TwistedLucidity> Or maybe Popey had been selling straight bananas and curved cucumbers.
[10:10] <zmoylan-pi> measured in non metric weights...
[10:15] <TwistedLucidity> The heretic!
[10:16] <zmoylan-pi> we could burn him at the stake but ordering an iso approved stake takes forever with all the forms for health and safety
[10:17] <TwistedLucidity> We'd have to do a carbon offset as well
[10:17] <zmoylan-pi> he could get splinters if you use an unapproved one...
[10:17] <TwistedLucidity> I have just found a log file called "killme". One of our lot hasn't been having a good time.
[10:18] <DJones> Maybe don'tfeed the troll
[10:19] <davmor2> TwistedLucidity: popey doesn't care because 52% of the population said up your Europe so he is now just hiding in this Sovereign state to avoid prosecution now
[10:20] <TwistedLucidity> davmor2: Point of order. It was 26.5% of the population, 37.5% of the electorate. It was 51.9% of those who bothered to vote, I'll give you that.
[10:21] <TwistedLucidity> Anyhoo, do we now invoke !politics on ourselves?
[10:21] <zmoylan-pi> welcome to the pedantic channel... :-)
[10:22] <TwistedLucidity> Pedants with basic arithemtic skills. The unimaginable horror!
[10:22] <zmoylan-pi> next up the change of literally in the dictionary... :-)
[10:22] <TwistedLucidity> Well, they did remove gullible.
[10:23] <zmoylan-pi> probably the same evil shadowy organisation that made dyslexia such hard word to spell. or put an s in lisp...
[10:23] <davmor2> and there is a new photo of Borris under madman
[10:23] <TwistedLucidity> Are they they ones that made "cleave" its own opposite?
[10:24] <zmoylan-pi> and made sure there is only one monopoly commission
[10:25] <davmor2> zmoylan-pi: oh those of the ones that where based on Old Kent road but move all the way round to Pall Mall right
[10:28] <DJones> Note to self, don't stab yourself with a curved knife, hurts like buggery
[10:29] <zmoylan-pi> the use of the word curved there is superfluous #pedantchannelday :-P
[10:29] <DJones> Nah, curved knives make worse cuts
[10:30]  * TwistedLucidity wonders how much research DJones has done into that.....
[10:30] <brobostigon> accidentally hit yourself with a scimitar?
[10:30] <zmoylan-pi> compared to jagged, rusty, covered in iodine blades? :-P
[10:30] <DJones> Straight knife - smaller cut, curved knife - hooks in and extends cut
[10:31] <TwistedLucidity> Oh, you mean curved toward blade?
[10:32]  * popey vomits at the thought of blood
[10:32] <brobostigon> or something like a scythe?
[10:33] <DJones> popey: I thought you were a vampire
[10:34] <zmoylan-pi> that's just natural reaction to hanging out on irc and shunning sunlight... :-)
[10:34] <DJones> True
[11:03] <TwistedLucidity> updateprobs5: Why not say your piece in public, rather than PM me?
[11:06] <TwistedLucidity> updateprobs5: Allow the courts to judge. IRC is not the place. Do not PM me again
[11:06] <TwistedLucidity> popey: Whack-a-mole time I'm afraid
[11:07] <updateprobs5> As you wish
[11:07] <Myrtti> ah yes, kiwiirc
[11:07] <Myrtti> you might need an extra wildcard for that
[11:07] <popey> yeah, oops
[11:08] <TwistedLucidity> updateprobs5: Do not PM me again
[11:51] <knightwise> Its been a while since I've seen someone get kicked from IRC :)
[11:54] <TwistedLucidity> Especially with a gobby sod like me around.   THANKS MUHAMMAD  3:)  3:)  3:)
[12:15] <zmoylan-pi> this one does have a religion fetish
[12:15] <knightwise> Oh Mighty popey !
[12:15] <knightwise> and a stuck caps lock key
[12:15] <zmoylan-pi> all hail the mighty popey \o/
[12:15] <knightwise> -0- Hail Zoltar !
[12:16] <TwistedLucidity> Why did they even start talking to me in the first place? I'm not the one breaching the EU directive on straight bananas and curved cucumbers!
[12:16] <zmoylan-pi> i think they just targeted active speakers... attention seeking troll
[12:17] <TwistedLucidity> Meh. I'm a big boy. Now if you excsue me, I'm just off to geolocate an IP....
[12:17] <popey> ee
[12:17] <popey> mobile
[12:18] <TwistedLucidity> Although they did raise an interesting theological point. Just not one for this channel.
[12:19] <knightwise> about how we pray to false gods like popey  ?
[12:20] <zmoylan-pi> because popey can smite you with ban hammer? :-)
[12:20] <foobarry> wow
[12:20]  * knightwise is wondering if he will have enough bronze for a popey statue
[12:21] <foobarry> he's probably gone to comment on some blogs somewheer
[12:21] <knightwise> that belly requires quite a bit of raw material
[12:21] <zmoylan-pi> or comment on youtube
[12:21] <foobarry> or start a political party
[12:21] <knightwise> probably one of the regular commenters on the "sun" website
[12:21] <foobarry> and the independent, as i think they don't have mods
[12:21] <zmoylan-pi> nah, after last week, no one will enter politics without a pre existing personality problem...
[12:22] <knightwise> Or a shaggy white wig
[12:22] <zmoylan-pi> well to be fair, on the sun website there is no way to determine trolls from normal readers... :-P
[12:22] <knightwise> Badum-Tish
[12:23] <zmoylan-pi> tip your waitress and try the veal...
[13:01] <davmor2> man now I'm getting sued for tipping my waitress how was I to know you meant give her money not tip her over
[13:17] <mapps> hmm
[13:18] <mapps> to go to spain or not
[13:18] <mapps> im lazy and it feels too far;]
[13:24] <TwistedLucidity> Chorizo and tapas.
[13:33] <popey> mmmmmmm
[13:41] <TwistedLucidity> Off to Catalunya at the start of Oct. Going to get so, so fat.
[13:43] <popey> Awww, I went to visit my Dad in Spain just before he died. Went to a bunch of restaurants over there in the village. So much good food.
[13:43] <foobarry> catalunyan suckling pig
[13:44]  * TwistedLucidity starts drooling
[13:44] <popey> heh
[13:44] <foobarry> ate a piglet. felt bad, but not too bad
[13:44] <popey> Meat is murder!
[13:44] <popey> Tasty, tasty murder.
[13:44] <foobarry> meat is tasty
[13:44] <TwistedLucidity> Although where I'll be is coastal. So lots of fish
[13:45] <foobarry> oh they do fish bbq on upturned boats
[13:45] <foobarry> or is that marbella
[13:45] <foobarry> yeah thats costa del sol
[13:45] <foobarry> the only time i enjoy fish
[13:48] <foobarry> every time i want a letsencrpyt cert, i realise my serer isn't vivisble to outsied world so i can't use one
[13:56] <Oli> foobarry, Make the external DNS resolve it to somewhere else (that you do control) and transfer the certificate across?
[13:57] <foobarry> i think it checks periodically
[13:57] <foobarry> its just a faff to make one inhouse
[13:57] <TwistedLucidity> If it's not world accessible; just use a self-signed?
[13:57] <foobarry> that makes browsers cry. we can get them supplied inhouse, but letsecnrpyt is easier!
[13:59] <Oli> Or forward something through from external port 80 to internal port 12345 to a nginx (or other) server that just handles the acme/known handler and drop everything else 444.
[14:11] <foobarry> this is prod systems guys ;)
[14:12] <foobarry> generated the csr. just have to wait a day for the guys to bake it
[14:38] <TwistedLucidity> foobarry: Ach, live life on the edge. What could possiby go wrong?
[14:38]  * TwistedLucidity hears a distant "Bang!" and much yelling
[14:39] <daftykins> foobarry: ah the guys who leaked a bunch of their members details
[16:03] <svea____> whats happening? https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/vKSYvLXI/irccloudcapture1982775454.jpg
[16:43] <daftykins> links i will not be clicking, #1 :D
[17:02] <daftykins> yay the old core 2 quad lives to see another day, nothing like a full rebuild from the ground up with a good dusting for good measure to sort it out
[17:14] <diddledan> daftykins: well done
[17:18] <daftykins> thanks! although i have a sneaking suspicion it might do the same no POST trick if i leave it off the mains for an hour again
[17:22] <daftykins> nope one unplug was all it took :P
[17:24] <daftykins> for the love of Tux.
[17:30] <zmoylan-pi> at this point my old boss would be pushing down any chips seated in slots that are removeable in case one of them had heat warped it's way to an intermittent connection
[17:31] <zmoylan-pi> scanning the underside for weak damaged solder points
[17:31] <zmoylan-pi> removing the board from the case and running it with as little hardware as possible
[17:32] <daftykins> just did the last one, before slowly building it back up
[17:32] <daftykins> and i had the whole mobo out of the case etc, along with removing the cooler and processor for a good clean up
[17:33] <daftykins> https://www.dropbox.com/sh/zd7g9i682g6izyk/AAC7AcXwqim9XwkH7q9_pIGCa?dl=0
[17:34] <zmoylan-pi> i did have one pc i called rip van winkle as it would just shut itself down, hp replaced, ram, cpu, motherboard, hard drive, cables till it was an all new pc.  it was only when they replaced the case that it started working.  there must have been a short somewhere between the case and motherbord.  took 6 months+ of support calls
[17:35] <daftykins> :D
[17:35] <zmoylan-pi> calls to hp support where my personal best was 12 calls before i reached a 'human'
[17:37] <daftykins> judging by the whole SSD going missing when i was last using it, it could be as serious as the southbridge dying, so might be better if i just call it a day
[17:40] <zmoylan-pi> i did have a laptop that denied the existence of hard drives.  that one had taken a whack on dublin bus which left a hairline crack in motherboard.  used it via usb drive distro of puppy linux for a year or so after that
[17:40] <daftykins> hehe
[17:41] <daftykins> i've found a nice looking board on ebay for £60... could be worth it
[17:41] <zmoylan-pi> saves time and effort on something that if you do get going will always be a little untrustworthy
[17:42] <daftykins> *nod* too true, i was going to give it away but it's not even worth that if a less experienced friend would end up getting his mits inside it making things worse XD
[17:43] <zmoylan-pi> i'd put a wonky label on it.  put it aside for a month or two.  then take it down. try everything again and if it still gave grief take it out behind the barn with my old sledgehammer
[17:44] <daftykins> yay!
[17:44] <daftykins> in fairness i think this board has been doing this for 3+ years
[17:45] <daftykins> we best put our safe smashing gear on ;)
[18:29] <daftykins> well, i did it... £60 old board purchased
[18:33] <zmoylan-pi> fingers crossed
[18:34] <daftykins> :D hope it hasn't been messed with too much, seems it was quite premium in its' day... a nice intel P45 based one with an ICH10R southbridge
[21:35] <diddledan> I’m chilly :-(
[21:36] <diddledan> Craycray for midsummer
[21:36] <daftykins> :D
[21:36] <daftykins> 'tis a bit here too


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[00:00] <wdbl> I'm going to try it now. I'll let you know.
[00:05] <MrChrisDruif> Indeed, gconf-editor can be run from Alt+F2 and gconf-editor
[00:08] <wdbl> ok so, I follow the instructions to use gconf-editor to disable locking on hibernate/suspend and what happens is that when I try it out, I lose my mouse cursor for a little while
[00:08] <wdbl> punishment I guess
[00:09] <wdbl> here are the instructions I used - http://superuser.com/questions/272455/how-do-you-prevent-gnome-from-asking-for-password-all-the-time
[00:14] <MrChrisDruif> wdbl: Did it work?
[00:14] <wdbl> it works in that it doesn't prompt me for a password upon resume, however I lose the mouse cursor
[00:15] <wdbl> the cursor just doesn't draw
[00:15] <wdbl> i can still use the mouse, but I have to figure out where I'm pointing based on mouse-over effects
[00:15] <wdbl> however, i found a work-around. If I use one of compiz's app switchers, it brings the cursor back
[00:17] <MrChrisDruif> :P
[00:17] <wdbl> that's my security right there
[01:14] <GarryFre> Well, I'm here, not a beginner but I feel like one with the unity... At the guide site I see this 1.) At Ubuntu 11.04 login screen, choose login to ?ubuntu classic?. Trouble is there IS NO SUCH CHOICE!!! Why?!?
[01:14] <MrChrisDruif> GarryFre: Even after you've put in your name?
[01:15] <MrChrisDruif> So you get to that screen, you only put in your name/select your name. Then you should be able to select which session you want to start :)
[01:16] <MrChrisDruif> And then put in your password/sign in
[01:16] <GarryFre> I click my name, I get the password input box but no selection about session.
[01:17] <MrChrisDruif> Also not in the bottom panel?
[01:18] <MrChrisDruif> GarryFre: http://scottlinux.com/wp-content/gallery/natty_classic/natty_classic_edit1.png
[01:18] <GarryFre> Nice, thanks, I see it appeared at bottom of the screen
[01:18] <GarryFre> Never would have noticed.
[01:18] <MrChrisDruif> :)
[01:19]  * MrChrisDruif is signing off....feels good he had helped one more person before going to bed :D
[01:21] <GarryFre> :)
[01:23] <GarryFre> I tell you, I see what you mean about Crappononical releasing unity too soon, Its got more bugs than bits.
[01:23] <GarryFre> Plus Can't even get conky to show on screen, transparent.
[01:24] <GarryFre> Omg, sorry folks. WRONG channel
[01:24] <GarryFre>  /slinks away
[01:40] <wdbl> hello again. I am browsing a samba share using nautilus and I noticed that it puts a link to the mounted share on my desktop. However, I cannot see that link from the terminal. I want to run a command to find some files on the samba share. How can I get to it in the terminal?
[02:49] <jbag> anyone able to assist with beginning to troubleshoot archive manager (file roller) in 11.04.  CBR files open but cannot extract or view files.  Using QComicBook reader also has extraction errors for files that opened fine under 10.10
[02:58] <camilleqco> i am trying to solve a problem with ubuntu netbook remix
[02:58] <camilleqco> and my wireless connection
[02:58] <camilleqco> not sure if i am in the right place...
[03:25] <wdbl> does anyone know why you don't have permission to /usr/local/src by default?
[03:25] <wdbl> isn't there where you are supposed to keep your source code?
[03:31] <eiriksvin> well i finally found out whats been going on with my Natty, it was the graphics driver, problem is i have it but dont know how to activate it, it just says its not in use
[03:33] <eiriksvin> what do i do?
[03:35] <wdbl> eiriksvin: do you have an Intel Core i3 or i5 chip that has a built in GPU?
[03:49] <camilleqco> i am trying to solve a problem with ubuntu netbook remix
[03:49] <camilleqco> and my wireless connection
[03:57] <kristian_> erm, desktops are usually using 240 pins ram, right?
[03:58] <kristian_> old-ish desktops, that is...
 no i have a amd64
[04:16] <eiriksvin> they seem to have some trouble with amd64 cus mine is a little rough
[04:17] <eiriksvin> and i used to run WOW on this like a charm so i know i can handle natty
[04:18] <eiriksvin> it ran smooth up until i updated
[04:18] <eiriksvin> now i gotta go back to classic mode, just to smoot it out
[04:18] <bioterror> probably unity requires so much from the 3D card+
[04:21] <Froq_> where can i get the needed driver for the magic touchpad that apple sells?
[04:31] <eiriksvin> there, now its all smooth but my graphics drivers are saying: This driver is activated but not currently in use.< it was fine before i updated, i could run it perfectly in the highest setting
[05:42] <eiriksvin> is there a way to get a transparent screensaver?
[05:44] <holstein> eiriksvin: i want to say yes
[05:45] <holstein> googing around i see bugs and forum posts
[05:45] <holstein> not sure how to do it myself though
[05:45] <eiriksvin> heh
[05:45] <eiriksvin> im trying to get my desktop back to nice
[06:29] <SerialMDK> can anyone tell me how to load a video driver with an 11.04 install?
[06:30] <DarkwingDuck> What video driver are you trying to load?
[06:31] <SerialMDK> newest nvidia driver
[06:32] <SerialMDK> it just says current not which driver
[06:32] <SerialMDK> if i install anything above 9.1 i get a black screen
[06:33] <DarkwingDuck> I used the "Additional Drivers" in the admin area and it worked on my nvidia
[06:41] <bioterror> X11 and 3D has always sucked :D
[06:44] <DarkwingDuck> Works amazing in Kubuntu
[07:06] <eiriksvin> whats the name of the program i gotta download to stop the launcher from moving and or disappearing?
[07:06] <SerialMDK> can ubuntu only see 4gb of ram or less?
[07:07] <bioterror> SerialMDK, 32bit kernel sees 3GB, 64bit sees even moar!
[07:07] <SerialMDK> erm
[07:07] <SerialMDK> i need a copy of like 9.1 64 bit
[07:07] <bioterror> what?
[07:07] <SerialMDK> ubuntu 9.1
[07:07] <SerialMDK> 64 bit
[07:08] <bioterror> and to be honest, same thing with windows
[07:08] <mysteriousdarren> Ubuntu can see way more that that way about 16gb ive used
[07:08] <SerialMDK> wasnt sure im a linux noob
[07:08] <SerialMDK> i have 8gigs now
[07:08] <bioterror> you can use PAE -kernel
[07:08] <bioterror> to get 32bit system to see up to 64GB
[07:09] <mysteriousdarren> bioterror: hi its been a while.
[07:09] <bioterror> hi mysteriousdarren
[07:09] <SerialMDK> anyone know where i can get 64 bit ubuntu 9.1?
[07:10] <bioterror> SerialMDK, why 9.10?
[07:10] <MrChrisDruif> But 64 bit is fine as well, but SerialMDK; there is no Ubuntu 9.1, there is 9.10
[07:10] <SerialMDK> if i install anything new i get a black screen
[07:10] <MrChrisDruif> And indeed, why 9.10?
[07:10] <bioterror> since 10.04 there have been Kernel Mode Settings
[07:10] <bioterror> use nomodeset kernel parameter
[07:10] <bioterror> if that helps
[07:11] <mysteriousdarren> do you have an old box u want to reinstall>
[07:11] <mysteriousdarren> ?
[07:11] <SerialMDK> its a quad core
[07:11] <SerialMDK> nothing after 9.10 has my vid driver
[07:11] <SerialMDK> if i install 9.10 i can upgrade to 11.04 fine
[07:12] <JoeMaverickSett> but that would take a looooong time...no?
[07:12] <SerialMDK> not really
[07:12] <SerialMDK> like an hour
[07:12] <MrChrisDruif> Yup, three upgrades
[07:13] <SerialMDK> downloading over 3MBps helps
[07:13] <Puck`> good morning
[07:13] <MrChrisDruif> Yeah, that would
[07:13] <MrChrisDruif> Alopha Puck`
[07:13] <JoeMaverickSett> Puck`: good morning! :)
[07:14] <SerialMDK> Puck you!
[07:14] <SerialMDK> lol
[07:14] <Puck`> SerialMDK: you seem so nice, welcome to UBT (:
[07:14] <SerialMDK> did 9.1 even come 64 bit?
[07:14] <Puck`> hi MrChrisDruif & Joe
[07:14] <SerialMDK> i am nice lol
[07:14] <mysteriousdarren> why not just add the vid driver and leave the rest?
[07:15] <bioterror> SerialMDK, 9.10
[07:15] <bioterror> SerialMDK, 10 means month
[07:15] <SerialMDK> cuz im retarded and new to linux
[07:16] <SerialMDK> never touched linux till 2 days ago
[07:16] <SerialMDK> sick of windows want to try something new
[07:16] <MrChrisDruif> SerialMDK: You seem very knowledgeable though and ready to learn :)
[07:17] <Puck`> yeah, you're not new to linux, the other one, i don't know, may be true (:
[07:17] <SerialMDK> knwledgeable of windows though...
[07:18] <SerialMDK> erm i hate this kb
[07:18] <SerialMDK> trying to figure out ubuntu hurts my brain
[07:19] <mysteriousdarren> little at a time works, don't try too hard at one time.
[07:19] <SerialMDK> what i want to know is why 11.04 doesnt have a new nvidia driver in it
[07:20] <MrChrisDruif> SerialMDK: It uses the open-source driver by default afaik, but the proprietary can be install after installation
[07:20] <SerialMDK> how can i install it after install
[07:20] <SerialMDK> all i get is a black screen
[07:21] <MrChrisDruif> Terminal? Or just black?
[07:21] <SerialMDK> total black
[07:21] <MrChrisDruif> Hmm..
[07:21] <SerialMDK> i know its the driver
[07:21] <SerialMDK> i installed 9.10 and upgraded to 10 and black screened
[07:21] <bioterror> in grub add "nomodeset" to kernel parameters
[07:22] <MrChrisDruif> I'll quote bioterror here: (08:10:43 AM) bioterror: since 10.04 there have been Kernel Mode Settings (08:10:52 AM) bioterror: use nomodeset kernel parameter
[07:22] <MrChrisDruif> Hehe :P
[07:22] <SerialMDK> reinstalled 9.10 used the diff driver and upgraded to 11.04
[07:22] <SerialMDK> if i knew what that meant id do it lol
[07:23] <MrChrisDruif> bioterror: Maybe how to add the nomodeset? Pressing shift and mostly follow instructions on screen?
[07:24] <SerialMDK> press shift when
[07:24] <SerialMDK> man i feel stupid
[07:24] <SerialMDK> i need #ubuntu-4morons
[07:26] <MrChrisDruif> During booting, otherwise you'd miss grub :)
[07:26] <SerialMDK> mmm grub, now im hungry
[07:26] <MrChrisDruif> SerialMDK: And no need for that, we all started once. It's just that your system needs a little more expertise :)
[07:29] <nit-wit> SerialMDK, #ubuntu-4morons hey we always need a new member
[07:29] <MrChrisDruif> Grub is an abbreviation in this case, but I don't want to fire up the browser to look it up :P
[07:30] <SerialMDK> grand unified bootloader
[07:30] <MrChrisDruif> That was it :D
[07:30] <SerialMDK> so what is kernel anyways
[07:31] <SerialMDK> there were a bunch of diff kernl options
[07:31] <SerialMDK> mine says kernal linux 2.6.38-generic
[07:32]  * MrChrisDruif would like that kernel
[07:33] <SerialMDK> ?
[07:33] <SerialMDK> generic means bad
[07:35] <MrChrisDruif> No, it means it's the normal kernel with no special settings :)
[07:35] <MrChrisDruif> You've also got -lowlatency and -realtime
[07:35] <MrChrisDruif> But that no use to use "mere mortals"
[07:36] <SerialMDK> lol so where i pick that in grub
[07:36] <SerialMDK> nomodeset kernel parameter will be in there?
[07:37] <MrChrisDruif> bioterror: Custom settings or something?
[07:38]  * MrChrisDruif has no experience with custom grub settings for booting
[07:38]  * SerialMDK has no experiece at all
[07:38] <SerialMDK> damn keyboard
[08:31] <SerialMDK> ok i have a new problem
[08:31] <SerialMDK> darkwing
[08:31] <SerialMDK> bio
[08:36] <SerialMDK> anyone got a minute to help me?
[08:38] <Puck`> they have no clue until you share your problem (:
[08:39] <SerialMDK> having a problem on install i pick the partition to use and it says no root file system is defined
[08:40] <Puck`> you need to the main partition to mount point /
[08:40] <Puck`> *need to set
[08:40] <Puck`> so in the partition table it will look like xyGB / EXT4
[08:41] <Puck`> / is the sign for the root mount point, that's where all of your system and personal files get to
[08:41] <SerialMDK> that worked
[08:41] <SerialMDK> i swear i did that yesterday and it did nothing
[08:45] <SerialMDK> thank you puck
[08:46] <Puck`> SerialMDK: my pleasure
[08:46] <SerialMDK> i feel a tiny bit less retarded now
[08:47] <Puck`> haha
[08:47] <Puck`> the wonders of life
[08:47] <SerialMDK> puck, will i get a boot screen when i turn it on to pick os?
[08:47] <Puck`> if grub gets installed properly, yes
[08:48] <SerialMDK> will ubuntu see my storage hdd?
[08:49] <SerialMDK> from windows
[08:49] <SerialMDK> puck
[08:50] <bioterror> sure
[08:50] <bioterror> you have NTFS-3G drivers
[08:50] <SerialMDK> 3g?
[08:52] <bioterror> http://www.tuxera.com/community/ntfs-3g-download/
[08:53] <SerialMDK> ~>bioterror<~, i install 3g in ubuntu?
[08:54] <bioterror> read again what I wrote
[08:54] <bioterror> as far as I know, I said YOU HAVE
[08:54] <SerialMDK> how would you know what i have lol
[08:54] <bioterror> becouse I rule
[08:54] <SerialMDK> its in 11.04?
[08:55] <bioterror> just click that drive icon in file manager
[08:55] <SerialMDK> if it boots...
[08:56] <SerialMDK> just finished install
[08:56] <SerialMDK> crap
[08:56] <SerialMDK> it just booted windows
[08:56] <SerialMDK> gave me no option to boot ubuntu
[08:57] <SerialMDK> was i supposed to put the linux partition b4 windows?
[08:58] <SerialMDK> ~>bioterror<~
[09:00] <SerialMDK> puck
[09:00] <SerialMDK> puck'
[09:00] <SerialMDK> erm
[09:00] <SerialMDK> ~>puck`<~
[09:01] <bioterror> do you have ubuntu on same drive as windows?
[09:01] <SerialMDK> yes
[09:01] <bioterror> where's your grub :)
[09:02] <SerialMDK> ...
[09:02] <SerialMDK> still just boots windows
[09:03] <SerialMDK> im really starting to hate computers
[09:05] <bioterror> welcome to my world :D
[09:05] <bioterror> I also hate my mobile phones :D
[09:05] <SerialMDK> thats why i have a 7 yr old motorola slvr lol
[09:05] <SerialMDK> its a phone and thats it
[09:06] <bioterror> I need to change calendars with my wife
[09:06] <bioterror> and now that doesnt work
[09:06] <bioterror> which sucks
[09:07] <SerialMDK> no one will help me in #ubuntu
[09:07] <SerialMDK> ffs
[09:07] <bioterror> you could boot livecd and check if you installation there
[09:07] <bioterror> I hope you did not install Ubuntu from Windows ;)
[09:07] <SerialMDK> would it matter if i put the partition after windows?
[09:07] <bioterror> WUBI or what that's called
[09:07] <SerialMDK> no i didnt
[09:08] <bioterror> no
[09:08] <bioterror> Windows is always on sda1
[09:08] <SerialMDK> ok then idk whats goin on
[09:08] <SerialMDK> i seen something during install like sda3 grub something lol
[09:11] <aks_wahi> plz help i am getting INPUT NOT SUPPORTED error what to do ? I  am new to ubuntu and know nothing about the commands and terminal...
[09:11] <SerialMDK> ~>bioterror<~, ho\w do i use the livecd crap
[09:11] <bioterror> !grub
[09:11] <ubot2> GRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager since 9.10 (Karmic). Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - For more information and troubleshooting for GRUB2 please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2 - See !grub1 for releases before Karmic (9.10)
[09:12] <bioterror> aarrgh
[09:12] <bioterror> check that grub2
[09:13] <aks_wahi> how can i fix INPUT NOT suppoeted eror in ubuntu 11.04
[09:13] <SerialMDK> this is confusing me lol
[09:16] <SerialMDK> ffs
[09:26] <SerialMDK> ~>bioterror<~ what is livecd
[09:26] <bioterror> !livecd
[09:26] <ubot2> The Ubuntu Desktop CD is a "LiveCD" which can be run without altering existing files on your harddrive. Especially useful for testing your hardware's compatibility, it also includes an install option.
[09:26] <SerialMDK> ahh so just choose try without changinf file system or what not
[09:29] <ray_> Hello
[09:32] <ray_> I am wondering, I have different emulators and I want them to open different files with the same extention. Can I rename a .zip file what ever I want for Mupen64plus to open?, or will that case problems?, If the problem is remembering the kind of .zip I can for instance rename .zip as .zip64 or something like that?, or will that not be a good idea
[09:32] <ray_> Sorry for messing up my last 2 questions
[09:33] <ray_> But that should be understandable enough to read
[09:35] <ray_> I know those are called extentions
[09:39] <bismarck_> Hi guys, new ubuntu user here and i have some problems connecting to my wireless network. anyone knows something about this area?
[09:39] <SerialMDK> wtf
[09:40] <bismarck_> yeah
[09:40] <bismarck_> that wasnt what i typed
[09:40] <SerialMDK> ~>bioterror<~, i try to reinstall grub
[09:40] <SerialMDK> says attempting to install grub to a partitionless disk or to a partition is a bad idea
[09:41] <ray_> You didn't type that?
[09:41] <bismarck_> yeah i did, only saw half of it first
[09:42] <ray_> Do you have a cordless phone?
[09:42] <bismarck_> No, havent got a phone. problem is i can see all networks close to me except my own
[09:42] <ray_> I switched the channel my router is using because our cordless phone and now my connection doesn't break, not for many weeks
[09:43] <ray_> Well sometimes neighbors can be near the same channel as you are using, but I don't know much more
[09:43] <SerialMDK> woot ~>bioterror<~ i fixed it
[09:44] <ray_> Sorry, I should have read what you said first
[09:44] <ray_> That sucks
[09:45] <bismarck_> Yes its quite frustrating, spent all of last night trying to figure it out
[09:47] <ray_> Well, I know the feeling. I have had my Internet disapear, I can't remember what brought it back. I ried restarting, shutting down and starting back up, unplugging the router and re-plugging it back in, resetting the dns cache, but like I said I can't remember what worked
[09:48] <ray_> I had also had my router set to hidden even though that is not real security, I was also using wpa personal encryption
[09:48] <ray_> I was also using mac filtering which isn't real security either
[09:48] <ray_> Now I just use wpa
[09:49] <bismarck_> Mine isnt hidden, and i think we're using wpa2
[09:49] <ray_> Well, I hope you get things sorted. Hopefully someone else here knows what to do, because I don't think there was anything else I did
[09:51] <bismarck_> I just typed iwconfig in the terminal and wlan0 doesnt show up at all right now.
[09:53] <ray_> I can't remember the command for flushing out the dns cache. I have it here in one of these text files but where?, If I find it I will copy and paste it here
[09:53] <bismarck_> tyvm
[09:54] <bioterror> in windows: ipconfig /flushdns :D
[09:54] <bioterror> in Linux I've never had the urge to do it
[09:55] <ray_> Dnag, I know I've seen it, and it's not the one where something has to be installed
[09:56] <ray_> There:  http://stevenharman.net/blog/archive/2007/09/25/quick-tip-clear-you-dns-cache.aspx
[09:56] <bioterror> restarting network is not flushing dns :D
[09:58] <ray_> OK, then how is it done?, I mean can it be done with one command without installing anything?
[09:58] <ray_> The Internet can be misleading.
[09:58] <bioterror> well, linux does not cache dns by default
[09:59] <bioterror> as far as I know
[09:59] <ray_> What about our routers?
[09:59] <bioterror> when you restart networking, you just fetch data from dhcpd server
[10:01] <ray_> Does that renew our ip addresses unless someone has a static one?
[10:02] <bismarck_> perhaps we are approaching the problem from the wrong end.
[10:02] <bismarck_> I've found the device, itsa broadcom thing
[10:03] <bismarck_> i think it might be a driver issue but the specific device isnt on the ndiswrapper list that the wiki links to
[10:07] <ray_> I've never installed a network driver but I had tried open suse and fedora and couldn't get my wireless cards working then but I was was more of a newbie then I am now, but I am still a newbie even though I have been able to compile a few things
[10:10] <ray_> Isn't there also madwifi for installing network drivers on Linux?
[10:12] <bismarck_> here's another basic newbie question for ya, where's the devide manager in ubuntu 11.04
[10:12] <ray_> OK, so I guess you should do lspci and paste it to here: http://paste.ubuntu.com/  in the terminal control-shift-c copies and control-shift-v pastes, in here control-c for copy and control-v for paste
[10:14] <ray_> You got me, I am looking
[10:15] <ray_> Hm, I am still looking into it, but I right clicked the network manager and opened connection info, but since you are having problems then I am not sure that will help
[10:17] <ray_> We need to find out what chip set you have. bioterror or someone who is more avid then me, is that listed when doing lspci?
[10:17] <bioterror> lshw or lspci
[10:17] <ray_> Shouldn't that be sudo lshw
[10:18] <bismarck_> to be honest i cant do much right now, gnome decided it didnt like me so i can only use the window thats up right now
[10:18] <bismarck_> will ctlr + alt + delete work? ;)
[10:19] <ray_> I am sorry, I realize people are trying out Ubuntu 11.04
[10:19] <ray_> I don't know what you are trying to do
[10:19] <ray_> O, you mean to restart
[10:19] <bismarck_> Have to restart the system
[10:19] <bismarck_> ill be back
[10:19] <ray_> Open a terminal and do reboot I think
[10:21] <ray_> They made control-alt-delete not restart or log out, so that I would have to change the keyboard short cuts, unless I am wrong, but I  can't remember if that was just 10.04 because I haven't tried doing that in 10.10
[10:24] <Guest30903> Now that's been settled
[10:25] <ray_> OK do sudo lshw and paste it into http://paste.ubuntu.com/
[10:25] <ray_> or lspci
[10:26] <bioterror> lspci |grep VGA
[10:26] <bioterror> or something ;)
[10:26] <ray_> cool, I will try
[10:27] <ray_> Ah, I am sorry but what should it be instead of vga which is for graphics cards?
[10:27] <ray_> I really like that though
[10:28] <Guest30903> ok i ran sudo lshw and pasted it
[10:28] <Guest30903> should i link it here now?
[10:28] <ray_> Yep
[10:28] <Guest30903> http://paste.ubuntu.com/602178/
[10:30] <ray_> I am looking but I am lost, but I have only used lspci
[10:31] <ray_> It's been a while for me
[10:31] <ray_> Is that pci?, where?
[10:32] <Guest30903> it starts at 204 about the network
[10:32] <ray_> I see, that's right pci is graphics as well
[10:33] <Guest30903> It says disabled simply because i have disabled it for the moment
[10:33] <Guest30903> It tried to auto connect to wireless networks all the time
[10:35] <ray_> I remember there being a website where if the last hex code of the serial number is used it will say what kind of card or something like that
[10:36] <Guest30903> I managed to pull these numbers out yesterday 14e4:4727 if that's of any use
[10:36] <ray_> Here is where to go: http://www.coffer.com/mac_find/
[10:38] <ray_> Err, well that didn't seem to work
[10:39] <Guest30903> I suppose it only works for Mac's
[10:40] <ray_> I think this is what it is, BCM4313 802.11b/g/n Wireless LAN Controller which was listed from the terminal out put you pasted
[10:40] <ray_> sorry, like I said it's been a while plus I am pretty sleepy
[10:41] <ray_> Well I thought this was a mac address 48:5d:60:2a:c7:1d, but I guess I was wrong
[10:41] <Guest30903> Did a quick google on the 14e4:4727. it appears this is a common problem with this broadcom card
[10:42] <Guest30903> the thing that bothers me is that i can find other networks
[10:42] <Guest30903> it wont recognize the essid of my router
[10:43] <ray_> Is that a router setting that can be changed?
[10:44] <ray_> It stands for Extended Service Set Identifier
[10:44] <ray_> Sorry, I am still learning
[10:45] <ray_> Or am I wrong?
[10:47] <ray_> http://acronyms.thefreedictionary.com/ESSID
[10:49] <Guest30903> the essid is the name of my network
[10:53] <ray_> What version of Ubuntu are you running?, I am not sure it matters but someone here might want to know
[10:55] <ray_> I google this but I haven't clicked on any links yet: http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&source=hp&biw=1024&bih=515&q=serial+number+network+card&btnG=Google+Search#sclient=psy&hl=en&biw=1024&bih=548&source=hp&q=%22BCM4313+802.11b%2Fg%2Fn+Wireless+LAN+Controller%22+ubuntu&aq=f&aqi=&aql=f&oq=&pbx=1&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.&fp=822bf32b5c0e0691
[10:56] <Guest30903> Im running 11.04
[10:57] <ray_> Hmm, I wish I knew what to do for you, but I did find this link under that search http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1722995
[10:58] <Guest30903> yes. it might very well be that i have to wait until someone has fixed the issue
[11:01] <ray_> I am sorry, I really don't like to waste people's time, but I guess I found a new command lspci |grep VGA
[11:01] <ray_> What should it be for a network card?
[11:02] <ray_> http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/show-ethernet-adapter-ubuntu-linux/
[11:04] <ray_> lspci | grep -i eth
[11:05] <Guest30903> I might be on to something now
[11:06] <ray_> I am still chilling all cool like
[11:09] <ray_> I meant I am heard chill-axing to read and learn as well
[11:12] <ray_> Hmm, there is system, admin, system testing
[11:12] <ray_> but I have never reported bugs before
[11:13] <madsailor> Guest30903,  there is a thread with info about fixing problems with your chipset at: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=10057878
[11:14] <Guest30903> I found this thread http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1617380&page=6
[11:14] <Guest30903> trying it now
[11:14] <ray_> Sweet madsailor, have you sailed the seas of cheese?
[11:16] <madsailor> ummmm..I do not eat green eggs and ham?
[11:16] <Pararat> Guest wasnt a very good nickname
[11:16] <Pararat> Figured forum name might be more appropriate
[11:17] <ray_> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DMi_o6ki2_0
[11:19] <madsailor> Pararat, ahh, driver compiling.  fun ;)
[11:19] <Pararat> so far so good :p
[11:20] <Pararat> Modify the file to make it work with your kernel
[11:20] <Pararat> Code:
[11:20] <Pararat> cd ~/linux-next/drivers/staging/brcm80211
[11:20] <Pararat> nano Makefile
[11:20] <Pararat> Add this code at the end
[11:20] <Pararat> Code:
[11:20] <Pararat> KDIR := /lib/modules/$(shell uname -r)/build
[11:20] <Pararat> ccflags-y += -I$(SUBDIRS)/include -I$(SUBDIRS)/sys -I$(SUBDIRS)/phy
[11:20] <Pararat> this is the next step
[11:20] <Pararat> now
[11:20] <Pararat> it says "add this code at the end"
[11:20] <Pararat> shud i put a space in first or something?
[11:22] <madsailor> it should be on a newline, no spaces
[11:22] <Pararat> tyvm
[11:22] <ray_> should that be the last line?
[11:22] <ray_> what does tyvm mean?
[11:22] <madsailor> thank you very much :)
[11:23] <ray_> And what's my today for that matter?
[11:23] <ray_> I meant What's my name today for that matter?
[11:24] <Pararat> ray_ ?
[11:25]  * madsailor thinks  maybe ray should be madray and madsailor should just be sailor
[11:25] <ray_> LOL
[11:26] <ray_> I am glad you are helping him out.
[11:27] <madsailor> I try :)
[11:27] <ray_> High five "o/\o"
[11:27] <Pararat> I'm very thankful, atleast ive gotten somewhere but we've yet to see if it works
[11:28] <Pararat> altho im getting hungry
[11:29] <ray_> I don't know if he can wait, but I can, but I wasn't being very helpful
[11:29] <madsailor> I'm learning the C programming language, so Makefiles  and gcc are half my life at the moment.
[11:29] <madsailor> yay compiling
[11:30] <ray_> Nice, that would be great but also tough
[11:30] <madsailor> indeed
[11:37] <Pararat> so how do i make a "new line" without sending a command?
[11:38] <madsailor> well, like it said, you open the file in nano, which is a text editor
[11:39] <madsailor> you add the line, hit ctrl X and Y to save
[11:39] <madsailor> and presto..modified makefile
[11:41] <Pararat> ok so first i type : cd ~/linux-next/drivers/staging/brcm80211
[11:41] <Pararat> then : nano Makefile
[11:41] <Pararat> ?
[11:42] <madsailor> 1 min..I closed the directions you are following
[11:44] <Pararat> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1617380&page=6
[11:45] <Pararat> giowck's guide
[11:45] <madsailor> yep...that should open the makefile in nano if it exists, or open a new file with that name if it doesn't.  You might want to type ls first in the terminal after cd'ing to make sure Makefile is already there
[11:46] <Pararat> no such file or directory is what it tells me
[11:47] <r4y> I like to drag and drop the folder or file I am using as a path in the terminal, then take away the '' single quotes. I find that it is the easiest way unless the path is short and simple
[11:48] <Pararat> I have to be honest with you, so far ive only copied and pasted the codes they tell me to use, i have no idea exactly what im doing
[11:49] <r4y> It's all cool
[11:50] <r4y> So to graphically see the file he wants to open, he might go to places and open the home folder and if there is a folder called linux-next then double click it
[11:51] <r4y> and so on
[11:51] <r4y> Only double click folders for now
[11:51] <r4y> unless he says otherwise
[11:52] <madsailor> Parat...I think you missed the first part of the guide, so that directory doesn't even exist on your comp (yet).  Start at the beginning: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1617380
[11:52] <r4y> Where is the downloaded folder you are trying to compile?
[11:52] <r4y> I am sorry
[11:53] <r4y> OK, I see, sorry
[11:53] <madsailor> first you setup git, then setup directory fo driver sources, download driver sources, *modify makefile ;)* compile and done
[11:56] <madsailor> however, read the update at the very top of that thread. It might save you a few steps
[11:57] <Pararat> i suppose my home directory is the folder with my user name on it?
[11:59] <madsailor> 1 up from there: /home/username aka ~/username
[11:59] <madsailor> what version of Ubuntu are you running?
[11:59] <r4y> yes, mine is /home/ray but this character " ~" bypasses the need for me to do for instance cd /home/ray/linux-next/drivers/staging/brcm80211
[11:59] <Pararat> 11.04
[12:00] <r4y> so in other words this is the same thing as that cd ~/linux-next/drivers/staging/brcm80211
[12:00] <madsailor> ok...well, according to the update at the top of the guide you were following, compiling that driver is pointless for your version...it's already included in the kernel
[12:03] <madsailor> r4y, no cd is "change directory" the tilde is just equivalent to typing '/home/'
[12:03] <r4y> I know
[12:03] <r4y> That is what I was trying to say
[12:03] <madsailor> oh..ok.  :)
[12:03] <r4y> This cd /home/ray/linux-next/drivers/staging/brcm80211 is the same as doing this cd ~/linux-next/drivers/staging/brcm80211
[12:04] <r4y> For clarity, unless I am wrong
[12:04] <geirha> Well, not '/home/', it expands to the value of the HOME environment variable.
[12:04] <geirha> Indeed
[12:05] <madsailor> consensus.  If only there were more of that in the world
[12:06] <Pararat> ok so following this guide is pointless then?
[12:07] <madsailor> yep.  you already have that driver up to date in the kernel you are running
[12:07] <r4y> It seems so.
[12:08] <Pararat> but why wont my wireless work then?
[12:09] <madsailor> That's a good question.  I would recommend asking in #ubuntu, where there is a bit more traffic, and likely some more experience with your specific problem.
[12:12] <r4y> Try asking and posting this link:
[12:12] <r4y> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1617380
[12:13] <r4y> I feel for you man, but don't give up.
[12:14] <Pararat> thanks for the help guys, ill see if they can help me in the ubuntu channel then
[12:14] <madsailor> good luck!
[12:15] <r4y> All the best, I will help you with the simple parts if you want me to.
[12:17] <r4y> Is he guest?, I am confused
[12:26] <Abhijit> duanedesign, ping
[12:26] <duanedesign> Abhijit: pong2
[15:18] <johnny77> I've upgraded to 11.04 and now when I log into Ubuntu, I only get the background image. It appears that Unity is not loading. Can anyone help before I reinstall?
[15:18] <holstein> johnny77: how about the classic environment?
[15:18] <holstein> did you try installing unity-2d ?
[15:19] <johnny77> holstein: something is wrong there too. I believe that a window manager is not being loaded.
[15:20] <johnny77> holstein: I did not try unity-2d. Is it just in the repository?
[15:20] <holstein> i would probably try an fsck
[15:21] <johnny77> fsck?
[15:21] <holstein> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SystemAdministration/Fsck
[15:26] <johnny77> holstein: I'm currently on the same machine logged into fluxbox, if that makes any difference. Trying fsck.
[15:26] <holstein> johnny77: probably have to force it on next boot*
[15:28] <johnny77> holstein: force running fsck? How would I do that?
[15:29] <holstein> used to be sudo touch /forcefsck
[15:32] <johnny77> trying brb
[15:39] <johnny77> holstein: either it didn't run fsck or it didn't work. I rebooted then logged into Ubuntu and got the same thing.
[15:48] <justas> hi , i have 2 os on my hard XP and linux ( i choose wich to boot ) now i want to keep only linux ( have only one disk C ) maybe boot xp installer cd and choose unistall xp , but then i installed linux i chose  30 GB space whic will use linux - i gues , so then i will unistall xp , linux will be on 30 gb , o hey can took all my hard space ?
[15:51] <justas> simpliest problem version : how to delete windows xp , and keep linux
[16:01] <johnny77> justas: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToRemoveWindows - Maybe this will help.
[16:02] <naveed> Forq : Hi
[16:02] <naveed> Froq:Hi
[16:10] <r4y> Can I rename all the files in this folder from .bin to .a26 ?
[16:10] <coalwater> what folder?
[16:11] <r4y> A folder I made
[16:11] <r4y> They are roms
[16:12] <coalwater> um and what's the problem
[16:12] <r4y> I am trying to make it so all roms are opened with certain emulators
[16:12] <r4y> So I decided that Stella can open files with the file extension .Atari2600 or .a26 from .bin
[16:13] <r4y> Because .bin is used a lot, I want to make it open to use in the future and so on
[16:13] <coalwater> ok
[16:14] <r4y> Should I go Google it instead for now?
[16:16] <coalwater> i dont understand what u want, just right click and choose open with, then choose the application
[16:17] <r4y> I am going to copy a few files over to a new folder and try this:
[16:17] <r4y> http://makandra.com/notes/1003-linux-rename-or-change-extension-of-multiple-files
[16:19] <r4y> I am confused, where is the path supposed to be in that command?
[16:20] <r4y> Here is my incomplete command:
[16:20] <r4y> In double quotes "rename 's/\.bin$/\.Atari2600/' *"
[16:20] <r4y> Replace this "*" with the path to the folder?
[16:20] <coalwater> i dont really know if that will work or not
[16:21] <r4y> It did say: This works on linuxes who use the Perl version of the rename command (like Ubuntu):, so like you said
[16:22] <r4y> So then it might need to be used in perl
[16:23] <r4y> There must be a way to rename these files, I would save this info for future references if I can do what I want to do.
[16:23] <r4y> I will say exactly what i want to do
[16:24] <coalwater> http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/renaming-multiple-files-at-a-shell-prompt.html this page kinda says the same rule at the end of the page
[16:24] <r4y> OK, so you did understand at some point
[16:25] <r4y> This then: rename .bak .txt *.bak
[16:25] <coalwater> i could try it
[16:26] <r4y> No, it's ok, so rename .bin .Atari2600 *.bin
[16:26] <r4y> What about the path?
[16:27] <r4y> I mean where does the path to the folder go?
[16:28] <r4y> At the end?
[16:29] <r4y> OK, so for instance I have a folder on my desktop and here is the path to the folder I am going to be testing this with: /home/ray/Desktop/untitledfolder
[16:30] <r4y> Where would that path go in this command: rename .bin .Atari2600 *.bin
[16:31] <charlie-tca> I think it would go in front of the last extension, like /home/ray/Deskto[
[16:31] <charlie-tca> well
[16:32] <charlie-tca> like /home/ray/Desktop/untitledfolder/*.bin
[16:32] <charlie-tca> since *.bin are the files being renamed
[16:33] <r4y> OK, so you think: rename .bin .Atari2600 /home/ray/Desktop/untitledfolder/*.bin
[16:34] <r4y> Cool, this will be the first time I have used the rename command, so many commands to learn
[16:34] <r4y> "syntax error at (eval 1) line 1, near ".""
[16:35] <r4y> I put that in double quotes
[16:35] <charlie-tca> you put what in double quotes
[16:36] <r4y> I mean what I pasted from the terminal to here
[16:36] <r4y> Double quote, pasted here, double quote enter
[16:36] <r4y> I didn't do "rename .bin .Atari2600 /home/ray/Desktop/untitledfolder/*.bin" in the terminal
[16:37] <r4y> I did: rename .bin .Atari2600 /home/ray/Desktop/untitledfolder/*.bin
[16:37] <charlie-tca> iThen you did it wrong
[16:38] <charlie-tca> is there actually a folder named "untitledfolder" ?
[16:38] <r4y> yse
[16:38] <r4y> yes
[16:40] <r4y> Does it not except because of the period?, If so how do I get around this?, Like for instance when a folder has a space in it then there either has to be a foward slash or back slash so the terminal with except it as it is, or it can be single quoted, but with a period I am unsure what the terminal wants, I should go read man rename I guess
[16:41] <charlie-tca> yup
[16:42] <r4y> Well, it says perl programmers reference guide, so the first link just might work
[16:46] <r4y> This is in double quotes "rename 's/\.foo$/\.bar/' *" The reason I put this and other text in double quotes is because here on irc I am not sure what the results would be. If I post something that shouldn't be posted then it simple doesn't post, and I get an error message, so now you know why which you likely already knew
[16:46] <r4y> So replace "*" that with the path?
[16:46] <r4y> I am guessing it is foo to bar
[16:47] <r4y> yep
[16:47] <charlie-tca> I'm guessing they are not using path
[16:48] <charlie-tca> they have done a cd into the directory with the files to be renamed
[16:48] <r4y> O
[16:48] <charlie-tca> and the * renames every file in that directory
[16:48] <charlie-tca> with the extension
[16:48] <r4y> O, wow that you for telling me
[16:48] <r4y> OK, that is simple
[16:50] <r4y> Yes, it worked
[16:50] <r4y> Thank you very much, this will be useful in the future
[16:51] <charlie-tca> when reading man pages, it helps to read the page. It normally explains every part of the command
[16:51] <r4y> Now, I have to make a small text file and document what is going to happen when using this command
[16:52] <r4y> I did man rename but it was short but from what you just said you must know that
[16:55] <r4y> I found that when I did man apt-get it doesn't show the order in which the command option, path goes, but with apt-get --help it shows that which I was wanting to know but even so there are many things like spaces and periods that means changes that might not be explained in the man pages but still I like to read the man page and nerd out even though I wouldn't consider myself a nerd
[16:55] <r4y> I more of a want to be nerd
[16:56] <r4y> And I should have gone to bed hours ago
[16:56] <r4y> I missed that second word there, I know
[16:57] <r4y> Thank you very much, I should go, keep on rocking
[16:57] <r4y> o/
[17:05] <charlie-tca> r4y: the other command I use a lot besides man ???    is      ??? --help
[17:05] <charlie-tca> so it would be like          rename --help
[17:06] <r4y> I am trying to understand why everything is the way it is in this command. What is s for?, What is the need for the foward slashes and backward slashes?
[17:06] <r4y> Maybe s is an option
[17:06] <r4y> Nope
[17:07] <r4y> Well, I am just wondering
[17:07] <charlie-tca> forward slashes are to insure any non-alphanumeric chat
[17:07] <charlie-tca> characters get noted/changed
[17:08] <charlie-tca> oops, backward slashes do that
[17:09] <charlie-tca> I don't know the rest. It is hard for me to understand the commands that are all thrown tight together like that
[17:09] <r4y> O, so where file name is the * char can be used instead to be reclusive in the current dir
[17:10] <r4y> I see, so if I want I could ask to only have certain files done
[17:10] <charlie-tca> right, * is a wildcard that covers all characters to the character after the star
[17:10] <charlie-tca> *bin   will only find names ending in bin
[17:10] <r4y> How would we say do every file but these 3 or so files?
[17:12] <charlie-tca> with difficulty
[17:12] <charlie-tca> that is more involved than my knowledge
[17:12] <r4y> I don't need to know
[17:12] <charlie-tca> I can make the command line with individual commands, but I have to make things simple for me
[17:13] <r4y> I can always do this then go back and rename the few I wanted named the other if ever needed
[17:14] <charlie-tca> that's what I do
[17:14] <charlie-tca> well not no more though
[17:14] <r4y> Here here, but I am sure you would wip me at using the command line
[17:14] <charlie-tca> I use Xubuntu, and Thunar has a rename multiple files command using a gui
[17:15] <charlie-tca> Makes it so much easier
[17:16] <r4y> Cool, there is so much to pick up, like for instance when you want to highlight things in the gui hold down control or shift, one of them highlights things in rows and the other highlights things individually
[17:16] <r4y> I learned that when messing with zipped files using archive manager
[17:17] <charlie-tca> Control lets you highlight things in skips and jumps, shift hightlights everything from first highlight to cursor position
[17:17] <charlie-tca> shift works going up or down, too
[17:17] <r4y> If you haven't already man man then hit h for help, or hit q
[17:18] <r4y> Cool, not just side to side
[17:19] <r4y> I am trying to think of something helpful, but I am in need of sleep, thank you very much for the help
[17:20] <r4y> have a good day, I am going to make notes then I will leave
[17:21] <charlie-tca> You are welcome
[17:22] <r4y> So you said oops back there, so I am going to try and reword it:
[17:22] <r4y> forward slashes are to insure any non-alphanumeric chat
[17:22] <r4y> characters get noted/changed
[17:22] <r4y> then you said oops backwards slashes do that
[17:23] <r4y> but I changed the sentence between
[17:23] <r4y> Is that right?
[17:24] <r4y> O, I didn't understand what you were saying but now I got it
[17:24] <r4y> OOps, I messed up
[17:24] <r4y> characters get noted\changed
[17:24] <r4y> fixed
[17:25] <charlie-tca> It should be backslashes are to insure any non-alphanumeric characters get noted/changed
[17:25] <charlie-tca> my keyboard does not type good
[17:25] <r4y> It's OK
[17:26] <r4y> so in this command rename 's/\.bin/\.atari2600/' * what are the foward slashes for?
[17:27] <r4y> So in other words the backward slashes also apply to spaces and not just periods
[17:27] <charlie-tca> right
[17:27] <charlie-tca> I don't know what the forward slashes do
[17:28] <r4y> Maybe forward slashes say to go into a dir
[17:28] <charlie-tca> backslashes can be for other slashes, spaces, foreign characters
[17:29] <charlie-tca> they might be saying anything in front of the dot in this usage
[17:29] <r4y> or maybe forward slashes say to move forward one digit to make up for the backward slashes
[17:29] <charlie-tca> but I don't know what the forward slashes are doing
[17:29] <r4y> Right
[17:30] <r4y> I should look at the man page for rename for a sec
[17:31] <r4y> Well, I know it doesn't matter and your guess is as good as mine
[17:31] <r4y> Thank you, I can finish making notes
[17:35] <r4y> Have a good day
[17:46] <r4y> o/
[19:16] <nlsthzn> hi, how can I get quassel to autohide in the notification area rather than the taskbar? if I enable show system tray icon I have two icons, one in the "message indicator" and another in the system tray too?!
[19:54] <Error404NotFound> is it possible to use windows favorites in firefox?
[19:55] <Error404NotFound> anyone
[19:58] <Dangr_> Error404NotFound:  Like your bookmarks?
[19:58] <Error404NotFound> yes
[19:59] <Dangr_> Error404NotFound:  you could use firefox sync, or a third party like Delicious or XMarks
[19:59] <Error404NotFound> i want to put my windows bookmarks intu firefox on ubuntu
[19:59] <Dangr_> Error404NotFound: I'd just setup a firefox sync account - it will do it automatically for you - piece of cake
[19:59] <Error404NotFound> and how do i do that lol
[20:01] <Dangr_> Error404NotFound:  ummm try this page first: http://support.mozilla.com/en-US/kb/what-firefox-sync
[20:01] <Dangr_> that should give you the run down on what it is and such
[20:02] <Error404NotFound> the bookmarks i want are from internet explorer
[20:02] <Error404NotFound> not firefox
[20:02] <Dangr_> oh i see
[20:02] <Dangr_> ok try xmarks - http://www.xmarks.com/
[20:02] <Dangr_> thats what I use personally, should do what you're looking for no problem
[20:03] <Dangr_> does the same thing as firefox sync - just supports all browsers instead of just FF
[20:07] <Error404NotFound> ok i have no clue what to do
[20:08] <Dangr_> create an account first
[20:08] <Dangr_> then install on each browser - youll need to put it on your IE browser first
[20:08] <Dangr_> sync
[20:08] <Dangr_> then do the same in Ubuntu FF
[20:08] <Dangr_> or you can look into exporting your bookmarks
[20:08] <Dangr_> that works too - i find sycning to be better for long term
[20:09] <Error404NotFound> i have a folder with all bookmarks in itcant i just put in a folder in linux?
[20:09] <Dangr_> yep that would also work
[20:09] <Dangr_> i think
[20:09] <Dangr_> idk havent tried
[20:09] <Error404NotFound> where is the folder in ubuntu
[20:09] <Dangr_> probbaly depends on how you installed it
[20:10] <Error404NotFound> well i am a total noob so you tell me lol
[20:11] <Dangr_> check to see if you can mount your Windows disk
[20:11] <Error404NotFound> i have complete access to windows hdd from linux
[20:12] <Dangr_> so then you can browse for it from there
[20:13] <Error404NotFound> i need to know where to put them in linux
[20:14] <Dangr_> i woudl just use FFs import bookmark feature
[20:14] <Error404NotFound> i would except i hate firefox and have no idea how to use it
[20:14] <Dangr_> id just look it up
[20:14] <Error404NotFound> i want internet explorer on linux damnit
[20:14] <Dangr_> its easy
[20:15] <Dangr_> O_o
[20:15] <NekoNeko> Anyone having trouble since the update?
[20:15] <Dangr_> yes - i gave up on 11.04
[20:15] <NekoNeko> =/
[20:16] <Error404NotFound> im on 11.04
[20:16] <Error404NotFound> works fine for me lol
[20:16] <NekoNeko> i mysteriously have no way to manage my taskbar/panel
[20:16] <obengdako> i think a fresh install might help just save your home folder if not partitioned and thus keep your old config files
[20:16] <Error404NotFound> i would like to be able to move the big bar to bottom like osx
[20:16] <mysteriousdarren> why ie? reason?
[20:17] <NekoNeko> Error404NotFound: ditto!
[20:17] <Error404NotFound> ie > ff
[20:18] <Froq> is anyone having screen sharing (VNC) problems??  mine isn't working @ all... ;(
[20:18] <holstein> Froq: can you ping?
[20:18] <Error404NotFound> is it possible to move the task bar?
[20:18] <Froq> holstein, yeah I can ping, and even connect to it, however, it just stays a black screen.
[20:18] <holstein> i really like remmina
[20:18] <holstein> Froq: hmmm
[20:19] <NekoNeko> Error404NotFound: not that I have found yet.... i've been going through everything =/
[20:19] <Dangr_> NekoNeko: I dont think thats available yet
[20:19] <holstein> Froq: try xtightvnc
[20:19] <holstein> see if you are getting any error output
[20:19] <Froq> do I gotta install that?  ... is it just called xtightvnc?
[20:20] <holstein> Froq: sudo apt-get install xtightvnc
[20:20] <holstein> then
[20:20] <holstein> xtightvnc IP
[20:20] <holstein> whatever IP address*
[20:20] <holstein> Error404NotFound: you can log into the classic session
[20:20] <holstein> and customize gnome
[20:21] <Dangr_> Error404NotFound: I like to use AWN to get that OSX feel dock
[20:22] <holstein> Dangr_: true
[20:22] <holstein> Error404NotFound: you should google around about making ubuntu look like OSX
[20:22] <holstein> if thats what you are interested in
[20:23] <holstein> theres lots of ways to have a dock
[20:23] <holstein> i think AWN is very slick
[20:24] <Froq> Error404NotFound, yeah AWN is an awesome dock.
[20:24] <Dangr_> it is pretty cool - and easy to use/customize through its settings menu
[20:29] <Froq> how do I make changes to the bar on the left of my screen?
[20:29] <Froq> the launcher bar
[20:31] <Dangr_> Froq: I dont think you can yet? I don't think you can do much with it as of now... unless someone knows?
[20:31] <Froq> oo silly... man, is this 11.04 still beta?  I gotta say, I think it is causing me more porblems then any of the other releases to date as of yet....  (I have only gone through 2 other releases lol)
[20:32] <Dangr_> Personally I'd like to replace it with AWN - I don't really care for the Win7 feel :-/
[20:33] <holstein> unity is not for that really
[20:33] <holstein> customizing*
[20:33] <holstein> its supposed to be an all-in-one UI
[20:33] <holstein> and i think it does that well
[20:34] <holstein> and even though, im not planning on using it, it looks great for what its trying to acomplish
[20:34] <holstein> and its still early*
[20:34] <holstein> customization could come
[20:34] <holstein> you can always file a wishlist bug
[20:34] <Dangr_> holstein: good points - I like how they moved the application menus to the global area above - like Macs finder
[20:34] <holstein> 'cant move unity launcher'
[20:53] <Error404NotFound> how do i uninstall crap on linux...
[20:53] <Error404NotFound> tryin to uninstall a crap music player cand find it
[20:54] <holstein> Error404NotFound: how did you install it?
[20:54] <holstein> software center?
[20:54] <Error404NotFound> was installed
[20:54] <holstein> you should be able to go where you got it
[20:54] <Error404NotFound> with ubuntu
[20:54] <holstein> Error404NotFound: OK
[20:54] <holstein> keep in mind
[20:54] <holstein> its not really going to free up much space
[20:54] <holstein> and its not using resources
[20:54] <holstein> BUT
[20:55] <Error404NotFound> i just dont want it to be default player
[20:55] <holstein> you should be able to find it in the software center
[20:55] <holstein> and unintall
[20:55] <holstein> OR synaptic
[20:55] <Error404NotFound> if i play a song with it it plays the song 2 times
[20:55] <Error404NotFound> at the same time
[20:55] <holstein> or in the commandline if you prefer
[20:55] <Error404NotFound> i orefer you tell me like im 3 yrs old
[20:56] <Error404NotFound> prefer
[20:56] <holstein> Error404NotFound: ?
[20:56] <Error404NotFound> i have no idea what yer talking about
[20:56] <holstein> the software center is in the menu
[20:56] <holstein> where ever you find other applications
[20:57] <holstein> like, where you found the audio player you dont like
[20:57] <holstein> synaptic is in there too
[20:57] <holstein> with either of those
[20:57] <holstein> you can search
[20:57] <holstein> by name
[20:57] <holstein> for the application you would like to remove
[20:57] <Error404NotFound> found it
[20:57] <holstein> and remove it
[20:57] <Error404NotFound> thanks
[20:57] <holstein> :)
[20:57] <Error404NotFound> im learning!
[20:57] <holstein> sure
[20:57] <Froq> what application launcher do you guys recommend?
[20:58] <holstein> i like gnome-do
[20:58] <Dangr_> yeah gnome-do is great
[20:58] <holstein> but, AWN is nice
[20:58] <Dangr_> I have both :-P
[20:58] <holstein> i mean, theres nothing wrong with the built-in tools either
[20:58] <Dangr_> can't help it - used OSx for so long
[20:58] <holstein> then theres no extra overhead
[20:58] <holstein> Dangr_: :)
[20:59] <Error404NotFound> anyone figure out how to move task bar?
[20:59] <holstein> Error404NotFound: its not a matter of figuring it out
[20:59] <holstein> you just cant do it
[20:59] <Error404NotFound> ffs
[20:59] <holstein> like i suggested
[20:59] <holstein> you can boot into classic mode
[20:59] <holstein> and customize gnome all you like
[20:59] <holstein> OR
[20:59] <Error404NotFound> meh
[20:59] <Froq>  Dangr_ yeah, I am a previous OSx junkie... so I like OSx haha
[20:59] <holstein> run another WM
[21:00] <holstein> Error404NotFound: XFCE or KDE
[21:00] <Dangr_> Froq: :)
[21:00] <holstein> there are meta-packages for those
[21:00] <holstein> sudo apt-get install xubuntu-deskto
[21:00] <holstein> sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[21:00] <Froq> holstein, I just don't understand why they would implement unity if it can not be edited.
[21:00] <holstein> Error404NotFound: ^ that that is not trivial
[21:00] <holstein> dont just run that without thinking it over
[21:00] <Froq> Dangr_, so I am using xchat, and when I load up the application, it doesn't auto log me into my IRC channels... you know how to fix that?
[21:00] <holstein> Froq: thats part of the deal
[21:01] <holstein> that is static
[21:01] <holstein> controlling the UI a bit more than average
[21:01] <Dangr_> Froq: you can - i think its a basic right-click affair - I'm at work on my Mac so I'm currently using Limechat
[21:01] <Froq> Dangr_, nice nice, I just Limechat too on Mac
[21:02] <Dangr_> Froq: http://xchatdata.net/Using/FAQ#autojoin
[21:02] <Dangr_> try that - just skimmed it but looks like what you're looking for
[21:09] <Dangr_> holstein: i heard that using aptitude is preferable over apt-get, is that true?
[21:10] <holstein> Dangr_: not sure
[21:10] <holstein> ive seen both
[21:10] <holstein> which do you use?
[21:10] <holstein> i was using apt
[21:10] <Dangr_> aptitude - i heard its better at removing dependencies when removing an application but I'm too inexperienced at linux to know for sure
[21:10] <holstein> and then i got talked into aptitude
[21:10] <holstein> then i did something that i broke
[21:11] <holstein> and fixed with apt
[21:11] <holstein> so i went back to apt
[21:11] <Dangr_> oh i see - I think i'll do the same when I break it :P
[21:11] <holstein> hehe
[21:11] <Dangr_> I break linux enough learning as I go
[21:11] <holstein> im sure aptitude could have fixed it
[21:11] <holstein> and i like the ncurses interface for aptitude
[21:13] <Dangr_> hmmm haven't heard of ncurses
[21:13] <holstein> basically graphical in a terminal
[21:13] <holstein> kind of
[21:13] <holstein> Dangr_: like alsamixer
[21:14] <Dangr_> oh neat
[21:14] <Dangr_> holstein: and yes, im looking this up as we go
[21:14] <Dangr_> lol
[21:15] <holstein> the folks that told me aptitude is better are smarter than me
[21:15] <holstein> so i believe and trust them
[21:15] <holstein> i just fall back into apt out of habit i think
[21:17] <Dangr_> lol yeah I can undestand that - when I read along with forum posts- or blogs or what have you everything seems to be apt-get but iono
[21:21] <Error404NotFound> how do i stop ubuntu from goin to sleep?
[21:21] <Error404NotFound> sick of entering a password every 5 minutes
[21:23] <Dangr_> preferences > screen saver
[21:23] <Dangr_> should be there
[21:23] <Error404NotFound> wtf i uninstalled that music player and it still works
[21:26] <holstein> Error404NotFound: what music player?
[21:26] <Error404NotFound> banshee
[21:27] <holstein> theres literally no good reason to do that
[21:27] <holstein> BUT, if you restart
[21:27] <holstein> and its still there
[21:27] <Error404NotFound> i did
[21:27] <holstein> let us know
[21:27] <Error404NotFound> after uninstalling
[21:27] <holstein> OK
[21:27] <holstein> Error404NotFound: what did you remove?
[21:27] <Error404NotFound> banshee music player
[21:27] <holstein> Error404NotFound: open up synaptic
[21:27] <holstein> and search banshee
[21:27] <holstein> see whats there
[21:28] <holstein> try removing it in synaptic instead
[21:28] <Error404NotFound> wtf is synaptic
[21:28] <Error404NotFound> i go to apps and its under available to dl
[21:31] <holstein> Error404NotFound: synaptic is the alternative application i mentioned before
[21:31] <holstein> you should be able to find it in the same place you are finding banshee
[21:31] <holstein> and the software center
[21:32] <Dangr_> if hes on 11.04 he could just hit super key and search for it
[21:33] <Error404NotFound> how do i set my music to open in rhythmbox
[21:33] <Error404NotFound> now i double click it and it does nothing
[21:33] <holstein> double click what?
[21:33] <holstein> and whats 'it'?
[21:34] <holstein> used to be
[21:34] <holstein> when you right click
[21:34] <holstein> on an audio file
[21:34] <holstein> you get a menu
[21:35] <Error404NotFound> yep
[21:35] <Error404NotFound> i click to associate music with it
[21:35] <Error404NotFound> and it dont work
[21:38] <holstein> Error404NotFound: how did it not work?
[21:38] <holstein> Error404NotFound: elaborate pleas
[21:38] <holstein> e
[21:38] <holstein> the player doesnt open?
[21:38] <holstein> or the music doesnt play?
[21:40] <Dangr_> guh- keep running into apt-get
[21:40] <Dangr_> its everywhere!
[22:37] <Error404NotFound> holstein
[23:15] <Error404NotFound> ffs where is preferences
[23:18] <Error404NotFound> i thought ubuntu was supposed to be easy to use...
[23:22] <Error404NotFound> anyone alive in here?
[23:23] <MrChrisDruif> Sure
[23:23] <MrChrisDruif> Who's preferences are you looking for?
[23:23] <Error404NotFound> how do i stop ubuntu from sleeping
[23:23] <MrChrisDruif> Power Management and Screensaver settings
[23:24] <Error404NotFound> i seen power management
[23:24] <Error404NotFound> changed it to never
[23:24] <Error404NotFound> still sleeps
[23:24] <MrChrisDruif> And Screensaver?
[23:24] <Error404NotFound> i didnt see anything about screensaver'
[23:25] <MrChrisDruif> System > Preferences > Screensaver
[23:26] <Error404NotFound> opened system dont see preferences
[23:26] <Error404NotFound> found it..
[23:26] <MrChrisDruif> Great :D
[23:26] <Error404NotFound> i miss wondows
[23:27] <Error404NotFound> windows even
[23:27] <holstein> Error404NotFound: you dont have to miss windoes
[23:27] <holstein> Error404NotFound: you dont have to miss windows*
[23:27] <Error404NotFound> now if i can get my printer working
[23:27] <holstein> you are free to do whatever you like
[23:27] <holstein> at anytime :)
[23:28] <MrChrisDruif> :D
[23:28] <Error404NotFound> its not finding my network printer
[23:29] <Error404NotFound> ooh nice i think its working
[23:31] <Error404NotFound> ok it sees my printer but cant find a driver for it..
[23:31] <holstein> Error404NotFound: what would you like to do?
[23:31] <holstein> if you want, drop the printer make/model in here
[23:32] <holstein> OR in google
[23:32] <Error404NotFound> mfc 465cn
[23:32] <Error404NotFound> brother
[23:32] <holstein> like windows and OSX and any other OS, some devices are not supported
[23:33] <holstein> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=678407
[23:33] <holstein> http://welcome.solutions.brother.com/bsc/public_s/id/linux/en/index.html
[23:33] <holstein> i have an HL-5250DN
[23:33] <holstein> works well in linux
[23:33] <holstein> ^ thats a brother printer*
[23:34] <holstein> Error404NotFound: i would say
[23:34] <holstein> choose your battles
[23:34] <holstein> since you are new to ubuntu
[23:34] <holstein> pick something
[23:34] <holstein> and stick with it
[23:34] <holstein> til you learn whats going on with it
[23:34] <Error404NotFound> i just want it to do what windows does for me..
[23:34] <holstein> right
[23:35] <holstein> and its not windows
[23:35] <Error404NotFound> thats not asking much
[23:35] <Error404NotFound> but i want printer to work
[23:36] <holstein> now-a-days, i find installing windows to be much more challenging than installing linux
[23:36] <holstein> its really an issue of what you are used to
[23:36] <holstein> and getting accostemed to the workflow
[23:36] <holstein> accustomed*
[23:37] <Error404NotFound> i dled driver and it says wrong architecture "i386"
[23:37] <holstein> i need to go, but im sure we can help you out
[23:37] <holstein> for example
[23:37] <holstein> you downlaoded what driver?
[23:37] <holstein> do you know what that means?
[23:38] <Error404NotFound> lpr driver
[23:38] <holstein> http://gunkies.org/wiki/I386
[23:38] <holstein> anyways, as i like to say often
[23:39] <holstein> in linux, the answer is always yes
[23:39] <Error404NotFound> so tha=is driver is meant for 32 bit
[23:39] <holstein> i know learning any major piece of software like an OS is challenging
[23:39] <holstein> but, im sure you can sort it out :)
[23:39] <holstein> BBL...
[23:39] <Error404NotFound> peace


[09:14] <LoicH> Hi everybody
[09:16] <LoicH> I have a problem with my proxy configuration, I used /etc/environment to set HTTP_PROXY and HTTPS_PROXY (both upper and lower case)
[09:16] <LoicH> but it doesn't work
[09:16] <LoicH> I can ping the internal network, the website of my company, but I can't ping other addresses such as google
[09:17] <LoicH> (I set up proxy for apt  with /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/01proxy, it works, only for apt)
[11:06] <LoicH> (in fact I have the same problem with an ubuntu VM)
[18:09] <xubuntu76i> hello
[19:24] <TheWild> hello
[19:25] <TheWild> started live session. How I gonna type when no keyboard is available? It's not Xubuntu's fault - just laptop's keyboard is damaged and I don't have spare USB keyboard.
[19:30] <TheWild> okay, found Onboard. I thought I'm stuck with character map.
[21:47] <xubuntu79i> hi
[21:48] <xubuntu79i> hey
[21:48] <xubuntu79i> im a noob who can teach me stuff


[05:19] <gnomefreak> i miss being able to use dist-upgrade :(
[05:35] <gnomefreak> has anyone else seen this issue while running apt-get upgrade/dist-upgrade? if so let me kno what to run to fix it. thanks
[05:35] <gnomefreak> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1548228/
[05:49] <gnomefreak> no one here ot no one knows how to fix it
[05:49] <gnomefreak> s/ot/or
[06:11] <Walther> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1548274/
[06:12] <Walther> I'm not sure that's a good thing.
[06:12] <Walther> didn't fix with apt-get -f install either
[06:12] <Walther> Suggestions are welcome
[06:13] <gnomefreak> Walther: thanks for sonfirming it
[06:14] <Walther> ah, a more common issue then / broken package
[06:14] <gnomefreak> Walther: did you try --configure?
[06:15] <Walther> walther@affogato:~$ sudo dpkg-reconfigure xdiagnose
[06:15] <Walther> /usr/sbin/dpkg-reconfigure: xdiagnose is broken or not fully installed
[06:16] <gnomefreak> i guess im filing  bug report
[06:38] <gnomefreak> Walther: canyou please read and comment on bug 1101688. [;ease add what happejned to you please,
[06:48] <Walther> confirmed, commented
[06:49] <Walther> also, it's pretty clearly xdiagnose issue, not dpkg
[06:49] <Walther> "SyntaxError: ('invalid syntax', ('/usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/xdiagnose/welcome.py', 219, 32, ' "--height=480")\n'))"
[06:49] <Walther> also, heh, now that's a way to say hi and welcome :P
[06:56] <gnomefreak> Walther: yeah i forgot abou that. thanks for updateing the bug report
[06:56] <Walther> no probs
[08:24] <rigo> hi
[08:25] <rigo> just one stupid question: can i install the os from an sd card what contains an iso file? so can the uefi bios extract it?
[10:07] <alankila> hey, tried to boot raring ringtail this morning and found out that 3.8.0-1 kernel can't read the initramfs and the boot fails there
[11:30] <alankila> boot issue solved. Was because / and (boot) was on XFS, and I rebooted too quickly, causing filesystem consistency issues wrt to grub's XFS driver. I guess I'll drop that FS.
[12:31] <BluesKaj> Hi all
[12:52] <dupondje> Hmz, Its not supported to copy a file from 1 gvfs mount to another ?
[14:49] <FernandoMiguel> anyone having DNS problems on +1 ?
[14:49] <FernandoMiguel> two laptops, fully updated, different networks
[14:49] <FernandoMiguel> continues timeouts and dns failed responses
[14:50] <FernandoMiguel> some more network intensive apps complain a lot.... anything video streaming related, like skype, g+ hangouts, pidgin... etc
[15:23] <elhoir> hi there,
[15:23] <elhoir> i have installed pulseaudio 3.0 via the audio dev team ppa
[15:24] <elhoir> using ubuntu raring 13.04
[15:24] <elhoir> and today i got this
[15:24] <elhoir> http://pastebin.com/Ku0hkAmB
[15:25] <elhoir> any idea?
[15:38] <john__> Hello, are transparency issues of panel in Kubuntu 13.04 / KDE 4.10 B1 a know issue ?
[15:38] <john__> I am talking about this
[15:38] <john__> http://imgur.com/a/QS5Gs
[15:39] <BluesKaj> john__, ^ so there may be some otherfixes that may affect you but unfortunately a reboot is required
[15:40] <john__> no problem, I got warned about living on the edge
[15:44]  * elhoir still prefers GNOME 3 rather than KDE 4 for the desktop :)
[15:48] <john__> BluesKaj what are those fixes? During setup I got warned about a broken pixelcache but it seems only to affect gtk apps
[15:49] <john__> BluesKaj gtk-pixbuf or so, but that doesn't sound like the transparency issues I see with panel and widgets
[15:51] <BluesKaj> sorry john__ I was speculating on whether your issue was affected , it was on the off-chance the upgrade mu=ight fix it ...my issues seem to be fixed now
[15:54] <FernandoMiguel> -rw-------  1 root root 613M Out 28 22:12 encrypted.block
[15:54] <FernandoMiguel> anyone knows what's this on /boot?
[15:58] <BluesKaj> FernandoMiguel, got any encrypted partitons ?
[15:59] <FernandoMiguel> BluesKaj: nope... I suspect its remains from ChromeOS
[15:59] <BluesKaj> aha
[15:59] <FernandoMiguel> but why it would write on another OS /boot, beats me
[15:59] <BluesKaj> same here , no clue
[16:10] <elhoir> any idea about this? ---> http://pastebin.com/Ku0hkAmB
[16:33] <BluesKaj> BBL, gotta push some snow
[16:42] <elhoir> hello again
[16:42] <elhoir> what does this dmesg line mean?
[16:42] <elhoir> [   16.808632] microcode: failed to load file amd-ucode/microcode_amd.bin
[16:42] <elhoir> is it a bug?
[18:33] <penguin42> hmph, what's up with kvm networking on todays update
[18:37] <BluesKaj> hey penguin42 , kvm networking ,... how do you mean ?
[18:38] <penguin42> BluesKaj: Guests aren't getting networking today
[18:38] <BluesKaj> ok
[18:39] <penguin42> hmph, restarting all the bits I can think of doesn't help
[18:39] <penguin42> hmm
[18:40] <BluesKaj> used 12.10 install to upgrade to 13.04 , the 3.8 kernel is ok , kwin is so-so , as is the 310.19 nvidia driver I was advise to install
[18:40] <penguin42> ah, at least you've got the thing to boot at last
[18:40] <BluesKaj> er advised
[18:41] <BluesKaj> yeah ..it was ubiquity thatr was stalling out
[18:44] <BluesKaj> thay was a fairly big update/upgrade today , at least ti fixed the missing toolbar and menubar on my app windows
[18:48] <penguin42> yeh I suspect my networking problems are due to that, I'll reboot in a few mins to see if that fixes it
[19:03] <penguin42> hmm, ok after a reboot
[19:09] <om26er> my wifi keeps disconnecting anyone else face that on raring ?
[19:23] <PatrickDK> om26er, intel wifi?
[19:24] <om26er> PatrickDK, its Network controller: Atheros Communications Inc. AR9485 Wireless Network Adapter
[19:24] <om26er> so not intel I guess ?
[19:24] <PatrickDK> dunno :) for me, it's been never ending issue with intel wifi chipset, since 9.10
[19:25] <PatrickDK> and not the same system, it's a known intel driver issue
[19:25] <PatrickDK> but dunno about atheros
[19:26] <alankila> I have had good experience with ath9k based card for a few years. Almost never fails. Have copied like 1 TB of data wirelessly without interruption at best.
[19:27] <alankila> It's AR5418/AR5008 based adapter. Some d-link device iirc. It took almost a year before it started to work in ubuntu though because of some register programming error that took long time to get fixed
[19:27] <om26er> alankila, it has worked perfectly fine on this machine from 12.04 to 12.10 I guess it will get fixed in raring as time passes
[19:27] <alankila> the 3.7.0 kernel could not use my other 5 GHz ralink rt2800 card at all, but 3.8.0-1 appears to work again
[19:29] <alankila> that did not work yet on 12.04, so I'm pleased about progress on this front
[19:29] <alankila> that being said linux wireless story is very much a hit-and-miss kind of thing
[19:45] <bjsnider> alankila, now, that's with the plain kernel module, not with anything like nspluginwrapper or something right?
[19:54] <alankila> yep
[19:54] <alankila> I have not ever used the ndiswrapper successfully
[19:55] <alankila> I also had some broadcom card that crashed on the open source driver, but luckily the driver available with jockey allowed that one to work. The open source driver would hard-freeze the machine in about 1 minute or so
[19:57] <alankila> so, to summarize, I don't think it has yet happened that wlan would have just worked with linux :-/ but nevertheless, usually after waiting a year or two, it has started working, so no complaints now
[20:27] <Bluefoxicy> i used to use ndiswrapper because it was the only way to get wifi
[20:27] <Bluefoxicy> but I thought it had become obsolete
[23:30] <mrmcq2u> hey, could someone point me towards a pulse dev
[23:30] <mrmcq2u> or sound indicator dev
[23:34] <bjsnider> the closest we have would be themuso
[23:34] <bjsnider> he's in some other channels