[07:44] <loper06> i can't shudown my box. shutdown hangs at "Shutting down LVM volume groups". boot works just fine. HELP!!!
[07:44] <avagant> http://www.nicotine-plus.org/wiki/NicotineOnDebian
[07:44] <jUggERNAUt1980> Tru7h, you shouldn't have to with the downloaded resource files and nwn linux client.
[07:44] <jUggERNAUt1980> Tru7h, use wine, i mean.
[07:44] <Tru7h> loper06, stop flooding the channel. If you've asked your question three times or more and nobody's responsed, it means nobody knows how to help you.
[07:44] <k0rd> tony, I installed the harddrive package, but nothing is coming up?
[07:44] <avagant> Go the bottom of the page, in your terminal fill out everything it has in the box..
[07:44] <SpaceFrog> Does anyone know how I can get my Multimedia keys on my keyboard to work with programs like Rhythm box? The Volume control +/- works by default with Gnome, but I want my play/stop buttons to work with my Media Player. If possible the web and email buttons would be good, too.
[07:44] <Tru7h> jUggERNAUt1980: It depends. Where did you get the files from?
[07:45] <jUggERNAUt1980> Tru7h, there's a bit of a howto on the bioware website, and i seem to have followed the instructions correctly.
[07:45] <tonyyarusso> k0rd: It's part of the default Gnome-panel options
[07:45] <k0rd> i mean the berlios program you suggested
[07:45] <jUggERNAUt1980> Tru7h, from the bioware nwn website.
[07:45] <gss6> is automatix really that bad?
[07:45] <avagant> I could never get adesklets to work so don't use that.
[07:45] <Tru7h> jUggERNAUt1980: I'm not sure, sorry. I'm still inexperienced, but I'm sure somebody else here can help you.
[07:45] <mnepton> jUggERNAUt1980: NWN works fine on Linux. you are probably getting that error because when you launch the game it is trying to create a dir somewhere you do not have write privileges.
[07:46] <k0rd> where do I right-click again?
[07:46] <aardfox> I'm trying to install cedega and it says that the "xlibs" dependency is not satisfiable, when I do in fact xlibs-dev installed. Any advice?
[07:47] <aardfox> in fact have*
[07:47] <jUggERNAUt1980> mnepton, how can i set those write priveleges?
[07:47] <tonyyarusso> k0rd: On the panel
[07:47] <jUggERNAUt1980> mnepton, can i private message the error message to you?
[07:47] <puff> Evening, I finally broke down and bought an ipod nano, trying to use it with gtkpod.  It seems to have the songs on it but it won't play them.
[07:47] <avagant> Ok I spoke too soon.
[07:48] <avagant> My sound worked absolutely fine and now sound in firefox isn't working at all.
[07:48] <avagant> WTF
[07:48] <k0rd> hmm
[07:48] <physicsnick> alright x is down
[07:48] <physicsnick> what command did you want me to run?
[07:49] <physicsnick> oops wrong window
[07:49] <mnepton> jUggERNAUt1980: try launching the game with sudo once.
[07:49] <jUggERNAUt1980> mnepton, ok will do.  i'll let you know.
[07:49] <mnepton> jUggERNAUt1980: i don't play or use NWN, so exact errors won;t help. no direct experience.
[07:50] <host`> I don't need bluetooth, and i don't need RAID, how do I stop the services from running on boot?
[07:50] <CrippsFX> I installed vmplayer (and the associated kernel modules) using apt-get, and I'd like to run vmplayer, but I'm told that there's no /dev/vmmon ... so I try to do modprobe vmmon, but it tells me that there's no such module ... any ideas?
[07:50] <jUggERNAUt1980> mnepton, hmm...it gave me the same error, seems like it's looking for a .kde directory, but i'm using gnome, not kde.
[07:51] <host`> /dev/ isn't modules are they?
[07:51] <CrippsFX> host`, no, but it also told me that the vmmon module wasn't loaded.
[07:51] <mnepton> jUggERNAUt1980: NWN forums or channels may be of more help.
[07:51] <host`> try searching apt for that
[07:51] <host`> can't hurt
[07:51] <host`> or you can locate it
[07:51] <CrippsFX> host`, done. Didn't get anything.
[07:51] <jUggERNAUt1980> mnepton, ok thanks muchly!  :)
[07:52] <mnepton> jUggERNAUt1980: np, although i'm not sure how i helped ;)
[07:52] <CrippsFX> host`, well, I did the apt-cache thing ... I'm running find right now.
[07:52] <host`> 'locate vmmon'
[07:52] <deoryp> could someone help me out getting glx to work on ubuntu?
[07:52] <CrippsFX> host`, no output
[07:53] <mnepton> host`: if he just installed it he'll have to "sudo updatedb" before locate will actually locate anything ;)
[07:53] <host`> ahh
[07:53] <avagant> Ok, I swear like 10 minutes ago I had sound in alsa coming from xmms AND firefox.
[07:53] <avagant> And now, I have no sound in firefox but sound in xmms.
[07:53] <host`> try that CrippsFX
[07:53] <CrippsFX> host`, I'm on it.
[07:53] <avagant> AND it's giving me that stupid "make sure soundcard is not blocked" crap.
[07:54] <jUggERNAUt1980> mnepton, you helped by pointing me towards a better dirction.  i came here because i am having trouble with finding the correct info in the bioware nwn forums, and am still a bit of a n00b, so it's tough anyway.
[07:54] <Shadow_mil> Will apt sources cut people off?
[07:54] <Xanter> anyone happen to have any experience with a hauppauge pvrusb2 ?
[07:55] <niru> hello all
[07:55] <host`> hauppauge?
[07:55] <jUggERNAUt1980> hello niru
[07:55] <Tru7h> My laptop's resolution is funny. Even if I just run BIOS, it's all centered and tiny with huge margins. Can anybody help?
[07:55] <niru> I want to have my own repository
[07:55] <lansing> k wat do i do iam at the site
[07:55] <jUggERNAUt1980> Tru7h, what lappy do you have?
[07:55] <mnepton> avagant: Firefox's sound depends on no other app using the ALSA subsystem. it's an antiquated bug. kill any apps using ALSA, restart Fx, and sound will return.
[07:55] <teenprogrammer> hi
[07:55] <teenprogrammer> quick question ,. . .
[07:56] <teenprogrammer> Is it easy to make ubuntu dual monitor?
[07:56] <avagant> so i can't listen to music and watch youtube eh?
[07:56] <teenprogrammer> O_O
[07:56] <Tru7h> jUggERNAUt1980: Uhh... it's a Dell Inspiron 8000.
[07:56] <jUggERNAUt1980> anybody here know if there's an nwn forum on freenode?
[07:56] <avagant> That's gonna make or break me.  I have own seen it with people with two video cards...  Make sure you have two screens setup in your xorg.conf file and that your two monitors are using one each
[07:58] <Shadow_mil> teenprogrammer: pastebin you xorg.conf file
[07:58] <CrippsFX> host`, basically, apt-get install installed the modules for the edgy kernel, I just have to get the dapper modules (I'm running my dapper kernel on edgy ... ndiswrapper issues)
[07:59] <MaKaTiGuY> host: how do i get permission when accessing mount drive
[07:59] <niru> Shadow_mil:I want to have my mirror server setup and that should have a tool to see all updation that is going in the upstream as well as compile the package
[07:59] <teenprogrammer> where is xorg.conf
[07:59] <aardfox> if synaptic says I have a program such as Wine, how do I find it if it isn't under applications?
[07:59] <host`> aardfox, wine is all text based
[07:59] <Shadow_mil> niru not sure
[08:00] <host`> I believe
[08:00] <Shadow_mil> teenprogrammer: /etc/X11/
[08:00] <Xanter> aardfox: wine is usually run from the console
[08:00] <MaKaTiGuY> host: You do not have the permissions necessary to view the contents of "disks-conf-hda1".
[08:00] <avagant> mnepton: But what's weird is I seriously was JUST running firefox and xmms under alsa.
[08:00] <aardfox> oh
[08:00] <niru> then how ubuntu is doing
[08:01] <host`> MaKaTiGuY, are you doing 'sudo' first?
[08:01] <MaKaTiGuY> host: what is the syntax?
[08:01] <MaKaTiGuY> ya
[08:01] <host`> what are you trying to do MaKaTiGuY ?
[08:01] <Shadow_mil> teenprogrammer: I do not completely remember, but I remember something about having to have two Xservers running.  Which I have not clue how to do
[08:01] <Tru7h> "Resizing partition... 1%" << This will take awhile...
[08:01] <Tru7h> Ooh, it went to 2%!
[08:01] <host`> text edit something?
[08:02] <host`> man, I'm out of here, it's time for bed, night
[08:02] <Tru7h> Sleep well, host`.
[08:02] <MaKaTiGuY> host: it is already mounted but when i access the drive, i cant view the content of that drive, no permission
[08:03] <teenprogrammer> Shadow_mil: How do i edit my xorg?
[08:03] <k0rd> hmm
[08:03] <k0rd> so i think Linux > Windows
[08:03] <k0rd> once you get the damn thing running
[08:03] <lansing> how do i remove programs
[08:03] <avagant> And now I can listen to youtube and xmms at the same time all the sudden.
[08:04] <avagant> WTF
[08:04] <wickedpuppy> lansing, the same way you install programs ... but remove instead of install .. like sudo apt-get remove program_name
[08:04] <avagant> is this whole .asoundrc thing even worth doing?
[08:04] <lansing> ok thanx wicked
[08:04] <Shadow_mil> teenprogrammer: you change xorg.cong
[08:05] <Shadow_mil> teenprogrammer: you change xorg.conf *
[08:05] <lansing> its locked my list directory wat do i do
[08:05] <Shadow_mil> teenprogrammer: this is really a better question for #xorg , becuase I have never tried to setup a dual screen
[08:05] <Shadow_mil> though that channel is dead often
[08:06] <Flannel> !tell teenprogrammer about xinerama
[08:06] <mnepton> k0rd: once you get Linux running, it tends to "just run." by contrast, Windows may take a little less time to get the basic configuration done, but then you have to add antivirus, firewalls, patches, and tons of other stuff that takes hours. and after that you need to spend significant time every day just keeping it running.
[08:06] <aardfox> where is the "c:/windows/system32" folder that wine creates?
[08:06] <Flannel> aardfox: ~/.wine/c_folder/ is C:\ or... something close to that
[08:07] <teenprogrammer> O_O
[08:07] <lansing> nvm got it
[08:07] <avagant> Anyone able to get two programs using alsa exclusively together with little to no weird set up?
[08:07] <Shadow_mil> apt would be so much better if it would install the things it has downloaded while downloading the new stuff
[08:07] <sproingie> " and after that you need to spend significant time every day just keeping it running."
[08:07] <sproingie> ballocks
[08:07] <Flannel> Shadow_mil: it does...
[08:07] <Shadow_mil> not that its not great now
[08:07] <kitsuneofdoom> is there any way to get an old fglrx package?
[08:07] <k0rd> mnepton, i've noticed, I've been using for Ubuntu for around 3 hours, and already like it better
[08:07] <Flannel> Shadow_mil: oh, you mean concurrently. That'd get messy
[08:07] <k0rd> gave me a good feeling that I finally got it running
[08:07] <k0rd> you know?
[08:07] <noiesmo> avagant, yeah I can get  sound from both a game or other app whilst using amarok
[08:08] <Shadow_mil> Flannel: I can see that, but still if you did it in the right order.  and asked for the packages in the right order...
[08:08] <teenprogrammer> well
[08:08] <teenprogrammer> thanks Shadow_mil
[08:08] <teenprogrammer> g2g
[08:08] <Shadow_mil> teenprogrammer: np
[08:08] <teenprogrammer> Bye!!!
[08:08] <Shadow_mil> cya
[08:08] <avagant> i just had gaim, firefox and xmms running not even like 3 hours ago with alsa all at the same time producing sound.
[08:08] <avagant> Now all the sudden it's like downhill.
[08:08] <james296> for some reason when I downloaded files using Automatix2, my System Documentation files used in Yelp are like completely empty except for About Ubuntu, what happened and how can I fix this? I already tried reinstalling yelp but that didnt work
[08:09] <aardfox> how do i add an address bar to the file browser? it makes me sad to not have the power of one
[08:09] <Flannel> james296: Automatix breaks things
[08:09] <aardfox> the option isn't under "view"
[08:09] <james296> so how do I fix this?
[08:09] <Flannel> james296: you'll have to ask people in #automatix, We have no idea.
[08:10] <kitsuneofdoom> is there any way to get an old fglrx package? I want 2.24.8, because it has been reported to work with my card, whereas the modern one doesn't. Ubuntu 6.06 Dapper Drake, 32 bit, ATi Radeon 200M
[08:10] <avagant> I guess perhaps my problem isn't solved.
[08:10] <avagant> I thought there was a work around to making everything work through alsa.
[08:10] <Geoffrey2> can I install Firefox 2 alongside Firefox 1.5 without overwriting it?
[08:11] <Flannel> !tell Geoffrey2 about firefox
[08:11] <k0rd> hmm
[08:11] <k0rd> all of a sudden
[08:11] <k0rd> my connection just fucking sloweeddd down
[08:11] <Flannel> !language
[08:11] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[08:12] <k0rd> no one would happen to know the pop3 address for Gmail is, do you?
[08:12] <niru> may I know who is the mainatiner of the ubuntu
[08:12] <Flannel> niru: no one person is the maintainer of ubuntu.  What are you looking for?
[08:12] <snoops> k0rd I'm not sure they even have one..since all the revenue from gmail is from ads..
[08:13] <niru> I want to ask some questions on mirror server
[08:13] <lansing> ive got nicotine but it wont let me connect
[08:13] <AbortD> snoops gmail uses pop3
[08:13] <Flannel> k0rd: gmail does pop?  I thought you needed a scraper sort of thing.  There's a gmail pop interface thing... I think in the repos
[08:13] <bawnpa> pop.gmail.com  durr
[08:13] <AbortD> it tells you if you go to www.gmail.com
[08:13] <AbortD> and the outgoing is like smtp.gmail.com
[08:13] <AbortD> i got thunderbird set to gmail
[08:13] <Flannel> niru: you're looking to become a mirror?
[08:13] <niru> Flannel:I want to know how ubuntu mainatines there repository
[08:14] <avagant> Ok who here has sound working for more than one thing in alsa with little to no extra configuration?
[08:14] <mAIJK> Im using qTorrent and think my download speed is very low. What can be wrong?
[08:14] <avagant> And more importantly HOW DO I DO IT
[08:14] <bawnpa> anyone know why my clock in linux slowly drifts ahead by like 2 hours a week?
[08:14] <bawnpa> my system really freaks out when i set the clock back to the correct time
[08:14] <AbortD> plain and simple alsa sucks
[08:14] <niru> Do they use any automation tool for autoupdation and automatic compilation
[08:14] <AbortD> but
[08:14] <bawnpa> the bios time is correct wehn i reboot and look
[08:14] <Flannel> bawnpa: because computer clocks are always wonky
[08:14] <AbortD> avagant: it only happens to me with certain things i run in alsa
[08:14] <bawnpa> i seeked on google but i don't have the sorts of CPUs that people mention having this problem with
[08:15] <niru> Flannel:Any tool for doing updating and compiling to ubuntu package
[08:15] <bawnpa> arg well  linux really freaks out when files are modified dates are in the future :/
[08:15] <snoops> k0rd yep, sorry http://mail.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?answer=12103 that's pretty handy
[08:15] <k0rd> :) ty
[08:15] <avagant> I was JUST running firefox/xmms/gaim and the sounds were going fine together.
[08:15] <avagant> Now all the sudden they are fighting for each other.
[08:15] <mnepton> bawnpa: use ntpd
[08:15] <AbortD> fighting for each other?
[08:15] <InwoD> Is Linux a genuine quality OS or just a peice of crap trying to be like Windows? i'm not trying to start a flame.... I just dont know jack about linux
[08:15] <avagant> For the right spot.
[08:15] <avagant> I have everything set to alsa.
[08:15] <avagant> I killed esd.
[08:16] <avagant> What's the deal?
[08:16] <AbortD> linux is a pos that's why you dont see a windows channel
[08:16] <mnepton> InwoD: if you're not trying to start a flame, why use such incendiary language?
[08:16] <Flannel> niru: I've got a link for you, let me find it.
[08:16] <InwoD> Sorry that's just me lol
[08:16] <InwoD> Is linux quality stuff?
[08:16] <avagant> If you can get your sound to work right, yah.
[08:16] <InwoD> I have a business running Windows 2000 and was considering Ubuntu
[08:16] <k0rd> ok, so whats some other add-ons to Linux that are useful?
[08:17] <Flannel> bawnpa: linux uses the hardware clock, with your timezone offset
[08:17] <InwoD> Microsoft Windows is expensive
[08:17] <avagant> isohunt.com?
[08:17] <O2> hello, anyone could tell some UML tools ubuntu can use?
[08:17] <ggilbert_> InwoD: Well, it's managed to hang around for about 15 years. There must be something to it :)
[08:17] <mnepton> InwoD: the fact that Google runs on Linux and not Windows should tell you something.
[08:17] <Shadow_mil> man fonts take so freaking long to install
[08:17] <bawnpa> so in /etc/timezone is "US/Pacific" an acceptable value?
[08:18] <mnepton> bawnpa: do not touch those files
[08:18] <nocti> InwoD, depends on your business.
[08:18] <InwoD> We make livestock identification systems
[08:18] <snoops> InwoD, for servers, absolutely, without a doubt, it's totally fantastic, same for solaris. For desktops..I've found ubuntu to be the easiest to use..but still had some small trouble..It's a learning experience, and the whole opensource philosophy is much more agreeable in my books
[08:18] <mnepton> bawnpa: /etc/timezone should never be edited.
[08:18] <nocti> InwoD, programming?
[08:18] <Shadow_mil> mnepton: funny... xorg.conf file says that too ;)
[08:19] <bawnpa> is sudo tzconfig an acceptable way to change it
[08:19] <Flannel> bawnpa: yes
[08:19] <lansing> avagant r u able to help ive got nicotine installed but it wont let me conect to server
[08:19] <mnepton> bawnpa: sudo cp /usr/share/zoneinfo/path/to/correct/timezone/stub /etc/timezone
[08:19] <k0rd> you gotta have a soulseek account
[08:19] <nocti> InwoD, if just internet and office stuff then linux is ok. if you want to run proprietary (ie M$ only) software then it's different.. and wine is not that good yet..
[08:20] <lansing> how do i do that
[08:20] <k0rd> Idk, I had mine from a long time ago
[08:20] <lansing> ok
[08:20] <avagant> Do you have the right ports fowarded?
[08:20] <lansing> i dont know
[08:20] <mnepton> bawnpa: but the answer to the clock drift problem is to install and correctly configure ntpd
[08:21] <mnepton> lansing: can i have 3 minutes of your time? seriously. 3 minutes.
[08:21] <InwoD> we still have to use Windows to run the laser markers but in terms of office use and information and ordering I would prefer a free OS
[08:21] <bawnpa> alright
[08:21] <bawnpa> thanks  you mnepton
[08:21] <InwoD> the production machines use to run on os2....but we had to go to Windows 2000 and its really expensive
[08:21] <lansing> ya
[08:21] <mnepton> InwoD: for document creation, e-mail, web browsing, and other tasks Ubuntu will serve you wlel
[08:21] <mnepton> *well
[08:21] <lansing> i need help wit program ne ways
[08:21] <mnepton> lansing: open a terminal
[08:21] <niru> Flannel:did you get any site
[08:21] <lansing> ok done
[08:22] <Flannel> niru: eh, I can't find the wiki page.  You might want to ask your questions in #ubuntu-motu
[08:22] <avagant> Ok, right now. I have Firefox running AND xmms and both are making noise.
[08:22] <mnepton> lansing: type this without quotes "sudo apt-get install gtk-gnutella"
[08:22] <avagant> So how is it that that just happened?
[08:22] <snoops> InwoD, give the live cd a go sometime.. OpenOffice is included with ubuntu, which can also be installed on windows..so if you want to try the office suite which comes with ubuntu on windows, you can do..to get a feel for it
[08:22] <mnepton> lansing: supply your password when asked
[08:22] <InwoD> thanks
[08:23] <niru> Is that in same freenode
[08:23] <Flannel> niru: yes
[08:23] <avagant> I swear use nicotine but, eh. Nicotine is win.
[08:23] <k0rd> anyone in here use ubuntu for programming?
[08:23] <snoops> k0rd yep.
[08:23] <lansing> it says the followin pack have un met dependencies
[08:23] <avagant> Then again lately I've just been getting video game ost.
[08:23] <mnepton> avagant: then *you* walk him through creating an account. Gnutella requires no account. far, far simpler.
[08:23] <k0rd> snoops, what are some good programs for debugging, etc.?
[08:24] <boink> hello all
[08:24] <mnepton> k0rd: gdb
[08:24] <mnepton> lansing: what packages?
[08:24] <avagant> mnepton: It's not hard, you just supply a random name and password, configure where you want your music to go you download and that's it.
[08:24] <snoops> k0rd, well..I've been using SPE for python, and glade for some gui work, as well as monodevelop
[08:24] <avagant> Then again I've been doing it for years.
[08:24] <mnepton> avagant: oh, you can just make credentials up? what's the point in that?
[08:24] <k0rd> mnepton, included or where can I find it?
[08:24] <avagant> I dunno.
[08:24] <avagant> Fun?
[08:25] <mnepton> k0rd: /usr/bin/gdb
[08:25] <mnepton> k0rd: man gdb
[08:25] <lansing> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[08:25] <lansing>   gtk-gnutella: Depends: libdbus-1-2 (>= 0.60) but it is not going to be installed
[08:25] <lansing> E: Broken packages
[08:25] <Geoffrey2> ok, question remains...I have Firefox installed through the repositories...If I wanted to install Firefox 2rc2, can I do so without overwriting the existing version?
[08:25] <k0rd> does gnutella have a apt-get?
[08:25] <Xanter> k0rd: apt-cache search gnutella ?
[08:25] <Flannel> !tell Geoffrey2 about firefox
[08:26] <k0rd> ty
[08:26] <mnepton> lansing: "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install libdbus-1-2 && sudo apt-get install gtk-gnutella"
[08:26] <puff> !tell puff about upgrade
[08:26] <lansing> k
[08:26] <snoops> Geoffrey2 I believe it will overwrite, unless you edit the install
[08:27] <Geoffrey2> Flannel, the website you're pointing me to isn't relevent
[08:27] <harrism> I have a rather simple question. How can I run a program through terminal when not being in the same directory? For example.. Say in terminal I am at Desktop and I want to run a program in /home/user  how can I do it? I know I can do ./file but just curious how to do this from outside the same directory
[08:27] <Flannel> Geoffrey2: yes it is
[08:27] <puff> I think I'm on hoary.  How would i check?
[08:27] <bimberi> harrism: /home/usr/file
[08:27] <bimberi> *user
[08:28] <Flannel> Geoffrey2: change the version numbers on that page, and it'll be the exact same.
[08:28] <bimberi> or ../file (for that particular example)
[08:29] <wickedpuppy> puff, cat /etc/issue or lsb_version -a
[08:29] <harrism> ok that worked, thanks bimberi, but what do you mean with ../file ?
[08:29] <wickedpuppy> puff, sorry its lsb_release -a
[08:29] <Ayabara> Is write support for ntfs stable/secure. If not, will it ever be?
[08:29] <mnepton> puff: uname -a
[08:29] <harrism> oh i see, nevermind. ok thanks
[08:29] <mnepton> Ayabara: it is not, and who knows.
[08:29] <puff> Yup, hoary.
[08:29] <bimberi> harrism: .. refers to the parent directory.  so if you are in /home/usr/Desktop then .. refers to /home/user
[08:30] <wickedpuppy> mnepton, how will that find out about the release ? curious
[08:30] <Ayabara> mnepton, straight to the point :-)
[08:30] <puff> Oddly, uname -a doesn't tell me what version, though it does tell me which kernel.
[08:30] <mnepton> wickedpuppy: kernel revision
[08:30] <wickedpuppy> mnepton, he wants to know the ubuntu version .. not kernel version ...
[08:30] <puff> Okay, using https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BreezyUpgradeNotes
[08:31] <snoops> Ayabara there is a project which seems to have decent write support..I haven't tested it yet..don't trust it yet
[08:31] <puff> Step one, aptitude install ubuntu-desktop.
[08:31] <klerfayt> hi what is default samplerate of usb mouse in ubuntu dapper? is it same as in winxp [125Hz] ?
[08:31] <mnepton> wickedpuppy: the kernel revisions are not the same for all releases. if you tell me a kernel revision, i can tell you the release.
[08:32] <Geoffrey2> will edgey likely use a more recent linux kernel?
[08:32] <Ayabara> snoops, I read a bit on the webpage, and they say it's still beta-ish
[08:32] <wickedpuppy> mnepton, well .. sure you can do that but why would you ? since there are direct ways to find out about the release version ... i am not saying you are wrong there ...
[08:32] <bimberi> !info linux-386 edgy
[08:32] <ubotu> linux-386: Complete Linux kernel on 386.. In component restricted, is optional. Version <IP_ADDRESS> (edgy), package size 23 kB, installed size 52 kB
[08:32] <mnepton> Ayabara: the best bet is to use the ext3 driver for XP, and make any shared space ext3. Windows can read/write ext3 better than Linux can r/w NTFS. the wonders of open source code.
[08:33] <kraut> moin
[08:33] <mnepton> wickedpuppy: i just like the uname method because it tells me both release and current kernel.
[08:33] <wickedpuppy> mnepton, ok ...   Is it safe to assume that apt will leave ~/.mozilla alone?
[08:34] <YoMero> some one know where i can find info of how recompile un package? i mean i need include other options of compilation, but i don't know where began
[08:34] <Geoffrey2> oh, can XP read/write ext3 by default, or do you need to add something?
[08:34] <Ayabara> mnepton: I've tried that solution and it worked quite well. Only problem got was with some of my nordic files ( an o with a line through it ++ :-) )
[08:34] <mnepton> Ayabara: ext3 supports Unicode.
[08:34] <mnepton> Geoffrey2: there is an add-on driver
[08:34] <Ayabara> Geoffrey2, need to install a file system driver
[08:35] <YoMero> www.fs-driver.org/
[08:35] <snoops> puff if you did apt-remove --purge firefox then you'd be removing your ~/.mozilla I believe
[08:35] <puff> snoops: Okay.. any other advice before I dist-upgrade?
[08:35] <lansing> avagant my dpkg is messed up can u help
[08:35] <YoMero> www.fs-driver.org/ Ext2 IFS For Windows
[08:35] <YoMero> It installs a pure kernel mode file system driver Ext2fs.sys, which actually extends the Windows NT/2000/XP operating system to include the Ext2 file system
[08:36] <snoops> that ext2 driver supports large file system that ext3 allows..but minus the journalling of ext3..still completely usable in windows
[08:38] <lansing> avagant?
[08:39] <Asc> What's the name of the program that lets you select what program is used to open a type of file?
[08:40] <Asc> (I'm trying to change the default file manager in GNOME - so when you double-click a folder, it will open it in a program other than nautilus.  Anybody know how to do this?)
[08:42] <Arcainus> ok, i have installed ubuntu with swap on sda2, but when i do a free...it says swap 0
[08:42] <Arcainus> and also on bootup it says
[08:42] <lansing> E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.
[08:42] <lansing>  this is the error i get
[08:42] <Arcainus> swapon: /dev/sda2: Invalid argument
[08:42] <Noah0504> What is a good Linux BitTorrent client that supports RSS feeds.  I'm looking for something kind of light.
[08:43] <k0rd> I think im going to bed
[08:43] <mnepton> lansing: you're runnign all this stuff with sudo, right? and you're just using apt-get?
[08:43] <k0rd> night guys
[08:43] <Squatch> What's the utility for formatting a new HDD?
[08:43] <lansing> ya
[08:43] <mnepton> Squatch: gparted
[08:43] <lansing> can u help me fix it
[08:43] <Squatch> Cool, thanks mnepton!
[08:43] <Flannel> Noah0504: why would you want a BTclient that supports rss feeds? why not a rss reader and a btclient?
[08:44] <mnepton> lansing: it sounds like your installation got seriously messed. apt-get should "just work" for something like gtk-gnutella.
[08:44] <Flannel> lansing: pastebin your sources.list (or have you already?)
[08:44] <mnepton> lansing: and, sadly, my time is constrained by people who have paid for Ubuntu support. :/
[08:44] <Noah0504> Flannel: Well, I suppose I can go that route.  I was just looking to combine the two.  Revision3 now offers Torrent feeds.  I thought it would make it easier to download the shows I watch on a regular basis.
[08:45] <lansing> well thats not fare
[08:45] <lansing> flannel can u help
[08:45] <snoops> Flannel many bit torrent sites have rss feeds..and you can put filters in to automatically get any torrents matching a certain name
[08:45] <snoops> azureus has such a feature, as well as utorrent
[08:45] <Stormx2> can I defrag a FAT partition from ubuntu?
[08:45] <Flannel> Noah0504: shrug.  I'm not a torrent person.  Anyway, if you want lightweight torrent clients, there are some built in, with a simple gtk frontend, a curses frontend, and a headless one, at that.  btdownload[tab] [tab]  will show you those options
[08:46] <Noah0504> Flannel: Thanks.
[08:46] <fuffalo_> what do i need to add to my sources.list in order to beable t run apt-get install mythtv?
[08:46] <Flannel> fuffalo_: multiverse
[08:46] <mnepton> Noah0504: if you have good LAMP-fu try Torrentflux (which supports RSS and is pretty light)
[08:46] <Flannel> !tell fuffalo_ about multiverse
[08:46] <grndslm> anybody know how i can tell which device the sound is going to??  /dev/dsp, /dev/audio??
[08:47] <fuffalo_> when i run it, with multiverse, it says ...Package mythtv is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[08:47] <fuffalo_> ....
[08:47] <Noah0504> mnepton: I might give that a look.  Thanks.
[08:47] <fuffalo_> oops sorry for extra dots hehe
[08:47] <Flannel> fuffalo_: pastebin your sources.list
[08:48] <Stormx2> Defragging a FAT partition from ubuntu, anyone? :)
[08:48] <fuffalo_> http://pastebin.ca/197313
[08:49] <Wass|> hi, I would like to know how to remove each 13 chars from each files inside a folder
[08:49] <Wass|> anyone can help?
[08:49] <Flannel> fuffalo_: you need multiverse on the normal dapper lines too, not just the backports
[08:49] <grndslm> Stormx2, no need for defrag in linux...therefore, i don't think it exists
[08:49] <Stormx2> grndslm: For FAT there is.
[08:49] <fuffalo_> flannel, do i just type multiverese at the end of lines 16/17?
[08:49] <grndslm> yea...but linux users don't use fat
[08:50] <Stormx2> grndslm: I'm a linux user and I use FAT
[08:50] <grndslm> seems silly
[08:50] <Stormx2> grndslm: Not as my /, obviously.
[08:50] <Wass|> my usbKey uses fat
[08:50] <Wass|> :p
[08:50] <aardfox> how do I edit xorg.conf?
[08:50] <aardfox> gedit opens a blank page
[08:50] <Stormx2> grndslm: Well I used it for my music. Linux and Windows can both read/write it
[08:50] <Flannel> Stormx2: I'm sure there is.  defrag doesn't mention fat32 in it's desc, but oyu could try it
[08:50] <Stormx2> aardfox: Sure you're typing the location correctly?
[08:50] <Wass|> aardfox: sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[08:51] <Flannel> Wass|, aardfox, gksudo
[08:51] <grndslm> aptitude install defrag
[08:51] <snoops> Stormx2 windows and linux can both read and write ext3..without the terrible file size limitation of fat
[08:51] <bioticpro> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5fZ3FRuH41w&mode=related&search= <pro linux spot from TechTV
[08:51] <mnepton> Stormx2: use ext3 and install the ext2/3 driver for Windows
[08:51] <mnepton> Stormx2: your data will thank you for putting it on a modern, fault tolerant FS ;)
[08:51] <Stormx2> I could
[08:51] <grndslm> ext3!!!!
[08:51] <Stormx2> Alright
[08:51] <aardfox> Oh, thanks. I was just doing sudo gedit xorg.conf
[08:51] <grndslm> heh...
[08:51] <mnepton> http://fs-driver.org/
[08:52] <grndslm> soo...how can i tell which device my sound is going to??
[08:52] <Wass|> aardfox: np
[08:52] <Stormx2> If I can, I will! But how would I go about it? I mean 80gb of it and the disk is pretty much full, I have no where to put it while I convert the partition to ext3...
[08:52] <Noah0504> Flannel: As far as RSS readers go, which to you suggest?
[08:52] <Sp4rKY> hi
[08:52] <Flannel> Noah0504: no idea
[08:52] <mnepton> grndslm: alsamixer
[08:52] <Noah0504> Flannel: haha, Thanks anyway.
[08:53] <mnepton> Noah0504: try the Sage plugin for Firefox
[08:53] <Sp4rKY> i'm trying to use unsquahfs but i get this error : "zlib::uncompress failed, unknown error -3"
[08:53] <grndslm> hmm....it tells me my card and chip...but not the location under /dev
[08:53] <avagant> How do you find out what version of alsa you have?
[08:53] <fuffalo_> flannel, is this better: http://pastebin.ca/197319
[08:54] <Flannel> fuffalo_: looks to be, yes.
[08:54] <fuffalo_> i still get the same error :(
[08:54] <aardfox> which "Device" section should I copy/paste http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=150854 into?
[08:55] <fuffalo_> here's the error: http://pastebin.ca/197323
[08:56] <grndslm> is /dev/pcm the default output for sound for onboard intel chips?  anybody know?
[08:56] <puff> Okay, just kicked off dist-upgrade, from hoary to breezy... how long should I expect this to run over a cable modem?
[08:57] <Flannel> puff: at least 650mb to download
[08:57] <BHSPitLappy> puff, are you serious
[08:57] <upgrdman> what do i need to install so I can use nvidias gfx drivers?
[08:57] <grndslm> i'm trying to get mp3blaster to work but it's saying "failed to open device"
[08:57] <Flannel> !tell upgrdman about nvidia
[08:57] <puff> BHSPitLappy: Come again?
[08:57] <BHSPitLappy> upgrdman, nvidia-glx ?
[08:58] <upgrdman> Flannel: thx
[08:58] <Squatch> Why is it that I have NEVER gotten a single response on the #kubuntu channel, and every time I have a question, someone answers within seconds of asking on this channel and it may not be the right answer but it always leads me to it after a bit of googling...
[08:59] <grndslm> because kde sucks
[08:59] <cpk2> lol
[08:59] <grndslm> heh...j/k
[08:59] <Squatch> lol
[08:59] <grndslm> it's just "different"
[08:59] <fuffalo_> flannel, adding the multiverse didn't get rid of the error http://pastebin.ca/197323 <-- am i using the wrong pacakge name or something?
[08:59] <cpk2> Squatch: you asked when people were arguing, i just now read back and saw your question
[08:59] <Stormx2> Who's clever idea was it to the ruin the MountingWindowsPartitions page? I have no idea how to add stuff to fstab now XD
[08:59] <Squatch> Well, it's what I chose at random a couple years ago when I was fiddling with Slackware, so I'm a bit more familiar with it than Gnome...
[09:00] <grndslm> gnome's all about design and looks....which i'm into...usability is incredible compared to any window manager or OS i've seen
[09:00] <cpk2> Squatch: did you want a gui to format?
[09:00] <Flannel> fuffalo_: you've done a sudo apt-get update
[09:01] <Squatch> cpk2: I guess I don't really understand the question...  I'm using KDE because I have some experience with it, albeit a VERY small amount.
[09:01] <fuffalo_> flannel, yes i have (just did it again)
[09:01] <Flannel> fuffalo_: apt-cache search mythtv has nothing?
[09:01] <Squatch> cpk2: Also, there seems to be a lot more apps readily available for it over Gnome...  Also, wanted to use KDev.
[09:01] <fuffalo_> oooh and now it works
[09:01] <snoops> grndslm, heh, I'd disagree with you about gnome's usability.. but, hey, it's all personal opinion anyway
[09:01] <cpk2> Squatch: you said you wanted to format a new hdd, were you looking for a gui for that?
[09:01] <fuffalo_> thank you flannel
[09:02] <grndslm> snoops...very true
[09:02] <Squatch> cpk2: Oh, yeah, I did a bit of searching and found qtparted.
[09:02] <Squatch> cpk2: All after doing a quick google for "gparted KDE" heh.
[09:02] <grndslm> i heart google
[09:02] <cpk2> Squatch: you can use cfdisk to make partitions as well
[09:02] <Beex> I don't suppose anybody could help me re-write my session scripts for an XFCE edgy install, could they?
[09:03] <Squatch>  cpk2: That the standard Linux Command Line partition tool?
[09:03] <Flannel> Beex: #ubuntu+1 is edgy support, and... I don't know if there's a #xubuntu+1... heh, try #ubuntu+1 though
[09:03] <Beex> Flannel: thanks!
[09:04] <cpk2> Squatch: i think so?
[09:04] <cpk2> Squatch: I used it but I was making the disk all one partition
[09:04] <cpk2> its pretty easy to use for that purpose
[09:05] <Squatch>  cpk2: Well, I just got a couple of 400GB SATA drives, wanting to partition them into one 10GB partition for Windows, and the rest I want formated in ext3 for data storage since I can get a driver for windows that can read that.
[09:05] <Squatch> cpk2: Just trying to get M$ and Linux to coexist peacefully >_<
[09:06] <grndslm> ok...lemme try again:  anybody use mp3blaster or another ncurses based audio player??
[09:06] <Flannel> grndslm: mpd is a common one
[09:06] <grndslm> k, will check it out
[09:06] <grndslm> i was really fond of mp3blaster tho, for some reason
[09:06] <noiesmo> crimsun, you here
[09:07] <fuffalo_> how do i run something as a different user (not root tho)
[09:07] <grndslm> su [name]
[09:07] <cpk2> Squatch: well you can try cfdisk /dev/sd* or check out qtparted, if i remember correctly gtparted didnt like my sata drives
[09:08] <cpk2> Squatch: cfdisk *only* partitions, then you will need to format in ext3 or whatever, I forget the command for that though =P
[09:08] <Squatch> cpk2: I'm looking at it in cfdisk and it says it's only 400GB, should be 800GB, do I need to install some SATA drivers or something?
[09:08] <CaptainMorgan> how do I change the background-color of an X related bash terminal? Im looking for the specific file, not the gui related path....
[09:09] <Flannel> CaptainMorgan: it'll be in your home dir ;)  .gnome-terminal maybe?
[09:09] <cpk2> Squatch: they are both on sda?
[09:09] <Squatch> cpk2: Yeah, in qtparted, I'm seeing sdb & sdc =/
[09:09] <CaptainMorgan> Flannel, hmm.. I don't have Gnome listed.. Im running an emulator
[09:09] <cpk2> Squatch: why wouldnt it show them seperate when they really are seperate?
[09:10] <Squatch> cpk2: Thought it was set up as RAID0...
[09:10] <Flannel> CaptainMorgan: well, try changing a file through the GUI, and then see what file was created/modified ;)
[09:10] <cpk2> Squatch: maybe it isnt? =O
[09:10] <CaptainMorgan> Flannel, there is no gui, it's an emulator no Gnome or nautilus explorer etc..
[09:10] <cpk2> Squatch: I really dont know, I've never had to do much complicated stuff with my data storage
[09:10] <GlobalHavok> how can i delete a directory in gconf?
[09:10] <Squatch> cpk2: Yeah, and I always seem to find the complicated, retarded setups, they seem to search me out =(.
[09:11] <Squatch> cpk2: Well, in my BIOS and boot-up utility they're set up as RAID.
[09:12] <Beex> anybody know where to find .xinitrc in xfce?
[09:12] <cpk2> Squatch: i really dont know anything about raid =(
[09:12] <Squatch> cpk2: Heh, no worries =).  I'll figure it out over the next friggin YEAR or so lol.
[09:12] <Flannel> !tell Squatch about raid
[09:12] <Squatch> Flannel: Thanks!
[09:13] <CaptainMorgan> Flannel, you aware of any .conf file maybe?
[09:14] <Flannel> CaptainMorgan: nope, sorry.  Don't have a GUI
[09:14] <CaptainMorgan> is a terminal a gui?
[09:14] <GlobalHavok> No one knows how to delete a directory with gconftool?  :(
[09:15] <Flannel> CaptainMorgan: no, it's a CLI
[09:15] <CaptainMorgan> if a terminal is not a gui, then I don't have a gui either, i simply want to change the back color of the terminal from frightening white to calm black
[09:16] <lansing> hey
[09:16] <grndslm> flannel, you actually use mpd?
[09:16] <Flannel> grndslm: no, I ssh in, no sound ;)
[09:16] <lansing> hey flannel wats that site to fix my source list
[09:16] <GlobalHavok> i use mpd, its great.
[09:16] <kandala> Hi all, anyone here using Ubuntu on AMD turion 64bit Duo core m/c?
[09:16] <grndslm> hmm....anybody here use mpd?
[09:16] <Flannel> lansing: you mean re-generate a new one?
[09:16] <Flannel> !source-o-matic
[09:16] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[09:16] <n0rk> hello, how change in ubuntu default language ? I have fr version of ubuntu, and i need to change to english
[09:17] <n0rk> fr = french
[09:17] <lansing> yah cus mines messed
[09:17] <GlobalHavok> grndslm: i do
[09:17] <grndslm> umm...why doesn't anything happen when i try to --create-db?
[09:17] <shriphani_> n0rk, no xperience here maybe you install lasnguage pack en-us
[09:17] <charlie> What is the best way to get support for streaming video in firefox (wmv files)? I haven't had any luck with any media players.
[09:17] <shriphani_> charlie, your media player ?
[09:18] <lansing> that site that avagant gave me
[09:18] <charlie> I don't care which, I suppose Totem is fine.
[09:18] <charlie> I install the multimedia codecs and the firefox plugin but no luck
[09:18] <GlobalHavok> did you set your directory in the conf file?
[09:18] <shriphani_> charlie, diddou download the m3u file or are you playing stuff from the website ?
[09:19] <kandala> anyone here using Ubuntu on AMD m/c without any problems?
[09:19] <charlie> shriphani_: It's a wmv file and I can play it find if I download it first, but it won't stream in the browser.
[09:19] <grndslm> yup...
[09:19] <grndslm> it was becuz i wasn't running it as root...but now it says it couldn't stat my music's home dir
[09:20] <shriphani_> umm charlie had s probs with totem here.... so i got vlc and then got the firefox plugin for it.... then it worked fine
[09:20] <mnepton> charlie: sudo apt-get install mozilla-mplayer
[09:20] <charlie> shriphani_: ok, have you had any luck with dvd playback?
[09:20] <charlie> mnepton: mplayer won't work either.
[09:20] <shriphani> umm charlie yes
[09:20] <KEA0463> hello
[09:21] <mnepton> charlie: then those WMV files are using a newer MS codec
[09:21] <shriphani> i used the restricted formats page
[09:21] <KEA0463> my question is how do i make open office compatible with MS Word?
[09:21] <shriphani> KEA0463, it already is
[09:21] <charlie> shriphani: I installed the libdvdread3 package and ran that install-css script, but it still won't work. Something about an encrypted dvd.
[09:21] <KEA0463> really
[09:21] <shriphani> !restriced
[09:21] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about restriced - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:21] <shriphani> !restricted
[09:21] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[09:22] <sykes^> When I turned off my computer yesterday the sound worked, I could listen to music and stuff, but now the sound is gone :/
[09:22] <charlie> shriphani: I've checked the page, as well as the help section that comes with ubuntu
[09:22] <shriphani> charlie, that page has stuff about enccpted dvd playback
[09:22] <sykes^> !nosound
[09:22] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about nosound - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:22] <charlie> I will check again, thanks.
[09:22] <ozzloy> is there a way to install java 1.5 sdk easily on ubuntu?
[09:22] <sykes^> !sound
[09:22] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure alsa is selected by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (Alsa Mixer). If you are still having problems with sound, then look at http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems
[09:22] <Flannel> !tell ozzloy about java
[09:22] <KEA0463> so i can open open office with word?
[09:22] <shriphani> umm charlie do you have libdvdread.css
[09:22] <charlie> shriphani: is that a package?
[09:22] <mnepton> KEA0463: no, but from within OO.org save as a format Word understand (.doc or .rtf or something)
[09:23] <sykes^> Anyone know why I have no sound? It worked yesterday
[09:23] <shriphani> wait lemme see if i got the right name
[09:23] <KEA0463> so i can save my apps as .doc and ill be good right?
[09:24] <mnepton> KEA0463: your apps?
[09:24] <charlie> Do you guys recommend enabling multiverse/universe for each section? (Updates, Backports, Security, ect...)?
[09:24] <shriphani> You can enable playback of encrypted DVDs with MPlayer,  xine and Totem-xine by installing libdvdcss2. Note that Totem-gstreamer can only play a DVD automatically when it is inserted into the DVD drive, but cannot navigate the DVD nor play it by selecting Movie -> Play Disc 'DVD Name' or otherwise.
[09:24] <KEA0463> papers i mean
[09:24] <ozzloy> Flannel: that seems to be java 1.4 sdk
[09:24] <MikeHawk> I've totally screwed up my xfce... how can I reset my default settings assoicated with it?
[09:24] <sykes^> Anyone?
[09:24] <lansing> help me plz
[09:24] <mnepton> KEA0463: yes.
[09:24] <KEA0463> ok thank you
[09:24] <shriphani> charlie_, that page has all the stuff ya need about encrypted dvd
[09:24] <charlie_> shriphani: Thank you, I will try it again.
[09:25] <Sp4rKY> i'm trying to use unsquahfs but i get this error : "zlib::uncompress failed, unknown error -3", anyone can help me ?
[09:25] <kandala> I am running ubuntu on my AMD laptop. The machine hangs suddenly and have to restart (using the power button). Anyone here faced this?
[09:25] <Wass|> ur amd becomes to hot
[09:25] <Wass|> :p
[09:26] <KEA0463> i got a pcg-k15 sony vaio laptop
[09:26] <shriphani> kandala, with kde i do have a few such probs but i switched to fluxbox and the probs disappeared
[09:26] <KEA0463> with ubuntu on it no problems
[09:26] <ozzloy> i'm looking for a javac with generics, sun-java5-bin is the runtime
[09:26] <charlie_> Do you guys enabled the back ports repository?
[09:27] <sykes^> Does someone have time to help me?
[09:27] <shriphani> charlie_, yup i do
[09:27] <kandala> shriphani: ok! Can you point me to the page from where I can install fluxbox?
[09:27] <Flannel> ozzloy: no, you want the sun stuff, which is 1.5, not the blackdown stuff, and the jdk is further down the page
[09:27] <Flannel> !tell kandala about fluxbox
[09:27] <charlie_> shriphani: What is it used for?
[09:27] <shriphani> charlie_, bleeding edge packages i think
[09:27] <shriphani> !backports
[09:27] <ubotu> If new updated Ubuntu packages are built for an application, then they go into Ubuntu Backports. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBackports
[09:27] <matti> Morning.
[09:27] <shriphani> yups
[09:27] <kandala> shriphani: Thanks :-)
[09:27] <charlie_> shriphani: thanks
[09:28] <sykes^> I got no sound today, but it worked yesterday. Help!
[09:28] <shriphani> np
[09:28] <shriphani> sykes^, umm can you turn on alsamixer for me
[09:28] <charlie_> shriphani: do you enabled universe/multiverse for source packages for all of them?
[09:28] <shriphani> charlie_, yups
[09:28] <POVaddct> MikeHawk: mkdir ~/tmp ; mv ~/.cache ~/.config ~/tmp      then log out
[09:28] <sykes^> shriphani: I'm a newbie, so I have no idea how to do that :P
[09:29] <shriphani> sykes^, double click on the Volume icon
[09:29] <sykes^> shriphani: Lol ok
[09:29] <shriphani> :)
[09:29] <sykes^> shriphani: Then?
[09:29] <shriphani> wait
[09:29] <shriphani> check the device
[09:29] <lansing> hey how do i fix my source list
[09:29] <shriphani> i think you click File
[09:29] <shriphani> lansing, source-o-matic
[09:30] <shriphani> !sound > shriphani
[09:30] <ozzloy> Flannel: oh cool thankd
[09:30] <lansing> i dont know how to use that
[09:30] <Squatch> So, I need my kernel source, and I'm looking in Adept, I've got a few different packages and I'm unsure of which to install.  kernel-source-2.4.27, linux-source, or linux-source-2.6.15.
[09:30] <ozzloy> Flannel: thanks
[09:30] <shriphani> gah
[09:30] <lansing> iam new to ubuntu
[09:30] <Squatch> Or something new entirely...
[09:30] <shriphani> !tell lansing about easysource
[09:30] <mnepton> Squatch: linux-source
[09:30] <Squatch> mnepton: Cool, ty.
[09:31] <shriphani> !tell sykes^ about sound
[09:31] <shriphani> sykes^, if what the bot says doesnt work then ask again
[09:31] <sykes^> shriphani: Will do, thanks
[09:31] <lansing> how do i open mysource list
[09:32] <shriphani> lansing, open for editing ?
[09:32] <lansing> yah n to look at it
[09:32] <shriphani> lansing, sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[09:33] <sykes^> shriphani: Funny thing is that the sound worked yesterday, but not now
[09:33] <shriphani> sykes^, happens
[09:33] <shriphani> i had the same probs a week ago
[09:33] <fick> question, is it possible to install ubantu 5.1 in vmware, and reboot to have it detect hardware.
[09:33] <shriphani> i sorta fired up alsamixer unmuted everything and it worked
[09:34] <shriphani> whoa rms is old
[09:35] <fick> i tried switching to knoppix 5. using bcm43xx with fwcutter, and i now i cant get it to remove bcm43xx , i have tried blacklisting using rmmod and modprobe -r , and bcm43xx.ko is still there when i do a grep -g bcm43xx | lsmod
[09:35] <mnepton> fick: why 5.10?
[09:35] <fick> its the only distrubution that seems to work with my wireless card.....the bcm4318
[09:35] <mnepton> but why the ancient version?
[09:35] <sykes^> shriphani: Nope, cant get it to work with that guide. But I'm a totaly newbie on linux
[09:36] <fick> not even knoppix 5.01 with its 2.6.17 kernel
[09:36] <mnepton> fick: no kernel will support it until Broadcomm opens the drivers
[09:36] <sykes^> shriphani: I'll try to reboot once, might help
[09:36] <shriphani> sykes^, umm you have alsmixer on i suppose
[09:36] <sykes^> shriphani: Yeah
[09:36] <shriphani> unmute erything there
[09:36] <cafuego> mnepton: Uh, no.
[09:36] <shriphani> everything ^
[09:36] <sykes^> shriphani: Nothing is muted
[09:36] <fick> mnepton: drapper does not work at all with my wireless card and i have been trying to use ndiswrapper with knoppix with no luck at all
[09:37] <sykes^> shriphani: Gonna reboot, brb
[09:37] <shriphani> umm
[09:37] <fick> in fact everything was fine until i let 5.1 upgrade itself to drapper
[09:38] <fick> with 5.1 i simply borrowed a prism2 card, downloaded ndiswrapper-utils, loaded the bcm4318 windows dirvers using -i and -m and modprobe ndiswrapper, then one run of dhclient and we were good to go
[09:38] <mnepton> fick: you'll have more problems on an old release than you will configuring Dapper to use the card
[09:39] <mnepton> fick: or, you could just get a cheap card supported by MadWiFi
[09:39] <fick> with drapper i just get errors like invaild something when i modprobe ndiswrapper
[09:39] <cafuego> fick: 6.10 can do the same; you just need to make sure you blacklist the driver properly. Alternatively, a lot of people use bcm43xx just fine with the latest firmware files.
[09:39] <fick> or later it returned the ndiswrapper.ko did not exist
[09:39] <ozzloy> i'm getting this error, and google doesn't help:  http://xrl.us/r7a5 (Link to rafb.net)
[09:39] <fick> i did blacklist bcm43xx in modprobe.d
[09:39] <POVaddct> cafuego: do all bcm43xx cards run with your packaged firmware or only some selected ones?
[09:40] <ozzloy> how do i fix this? ^
[09:40] <cafuego> POVaddct: All 4306 ones, and some 4318 ones - though I can see rhyme nor reason as to why some work and some don't.
[09:41] <POVaddct> cafuego: thats the problem. f**k broadcom for not releasing any specs...
[09:41] <cafuego> POVaddct: Broadcom claim they're not allowed to.
[09:41] <kidbuntu> how do i install new winamp skins through the terminal
[09:42] <mnepton> fick: oooo ... Tukwila?
[09:42] <ozzloy> well i'm off to bed, but thanks anyways Flannel
[09:42] <POVaddct> cafuego: i think thats a lame excuse from them. ralink released theirs, so why should they be allowed and broadcom not?
[09:43] <cafuego> POVaddct: Dunno, I think I read at some stage the us govt. told them they were not permitted to release specs.
[09:43] <mnepton> cafuego: that's BS
[09:43] <Arcainus> how do i get rid of raid on my box?
[09:44] <mnepton> cafuego: *tons* of 802.11x chipset fabricators release specs for their chipsets. none of them have had their doors kicked in.
[09:44] <ozzloy> actually, i just tried "sudo apt-get install sun-java5-jdk" and it seems to be working
[09:45] <Lilandra> Hi
[09:45] <ozzloy> even though it looks like the repository is not added
[09:45] <ozzloy> hi Lilandra
[09:45] <Lilandra> how do i find out if my linux comes with a driver?
[09:45] <POVaddct> cafuego, mnepton: anyway, it's good to have a working solution besides ndiswrapper for at least some bcm43xx-types
[09:46] <cafuego> the latest driver in edgy now even reads back link strength status to nm-applet, so there is progress.
[09:46] <deadcoder> damn laptop hibernated
[09:46] <deadcoder> low power
[09:46] <POVaddct> cafuego: personally, i stick to rt2570 and madwifi supported cards
[09:47] <cafuego> That's not an option on iBooks.
[09:47] <cafuego> So I'm quite happy the 4306 works.
[09:47] <Lilandra> what's not an option on iBooks?
[09:47] <POVaddct> cafuego: the rt2570 is (its usb)
[09:47] <Lilandra> i'm lost...I don't know how to make things hibernate (but I haven't searched yet so I will when I'm ready to figure that out)
[09:48] <cafuego> Hmmyeah, easy to break stuff off; not my favourite
[09:48] <POVaddct> Lilandra: the madwifi driver is partly closed source. and that binary part is not compiled for ppc i guess
[09:49] <cafuego> maybe it is, but I'm not much of a fan of working on the move with stuff sticking out of the laptop
[09:49] <Lilandra> oh! wireless
[09:49] <Lilandra> I have my wireless working on my powerbook but I haven't yet figured out the trackpad
[09:49] <POVaddct> Lilandra: yes, we are talking about wireless driver issues. (endless story)
[09:50] <shriphani> i feel if its ppc its gotta be osx for networking
[09:50] <Lilandra> What are the different drivers running around? How is it that some work and some don't?
[09:50] <shriphani> like instant connection to any wireless connection nearby
[09:51] <deadcoder> it seems all this bloody bcm43xx thing seems to have acheived for bcm4318 owners is make life a lot harder.....at the end of the day broadcom is to blame for kissing ms arse
[09:51] <POVaddct> Lilandra: different hardware needs different drivers. or are you talking about different drivers for the same hardware?
[09:51] <mnepton> PCMCIA cards with fully supported chipsets are cheap and plentiful.
[09:52] <Lilandra> Well, are all the airport extreme cards not the same hardware?
[09:52] <Lilandra> or they're different and it's tricky?
[09:52] <deadcoder> well, since my headphone port is dead in my laptop that leaves me choosing between puting a sound card or a network card in my pc card slot
[09:52] <shriphani> umm isnt it like people use firmware off windows to run broadcom cards ?
[09:53] <POVaddct> Lilandra: i think _most_ of the are broadcom chipsets, but i don't know for sure (i am not an apple guy)
[09:53] <shriphani> i saw some post on ubuntu forums
[09:53] <Lilandra> oh ok
[09:54] <shriphani> mnepton, i think you can get firmware off Ex-Pee and use  with ubuntu
[09:54] <deadcoder> yeah i seen tons of posts claming that so and so got their bcm4318 card to work using these directions on both ubuntu 6 and knoppix 5 and even with a fresh install they dont work
[09:54] <deadcoder> could be something to do with bloody rmmod and modprobe -r not removing the frigging bcm43xx module like i asked it to
[09:55] <lansing> ineed help ive lost all my sources
[09:55] <deadcoder> and thats with blacklisting
[09:55] <Lilandra> how do i know what card you have? is bcm43xx not bcm4318?
[09:56] <Lilandra> i thought the x was a place holder :(
[09:57] <POVaddct> Lilandra: lspci
[09:57] <lansing> i need that site again that source o matic
[09:57] <deadcoder> well yeah bcm43xx is bcm4318 but bcm43xx only really works right away with bcm4306
[09:57] <samuel> Hi
[09:57] <deadcoder> from what i have read
[09:57] <Lilandra> oh! i get it. sorry for being slow...i have 4306
[09:57] <samuel> How do you make ubuntu boot so it only boots to the login prompt without starting X server etc.... so then I can manually start X?
[09:58] <deadcoder> i would imagine it would have something to do with getting it to only start up with a runlevel of 2
[09:59] <samuel> How do you make ubuntu boot so it only boots to the login prompt without starting X server etc.... so then I can manually start X?
[10:01] <lansing> hey avagant can u help
[10:01] <lansing> ive lost my source list
[10:01] <lansing> its blank how do i recreate it
[10:01] <chamo> hello
[10:01] <lansing> do i have to reinstall ubuntu
[10:02] <oskude> !easysource > lansing
[10:02] <Asc> Anybody know how to change gnome's default file manager?
[10:02] <lansing> thanx oskude
[10:02] <Jaak_> How do put music on my ipod?
[10:03] <moox> l
[10:03] <Lilandra> got to go...laterz! :)
[10:03] <moox> Jaak_ : do you know "listen" the software ?
[10:04] <lansing> how do i do this
[10:05] <truiu> Jaak_: i have never tested ist, but you might try http://www.gtkpod.org
[10:05] <samuel> How do you add a password to Grub?
[10:05] <shriphani> Jaak_, gtkpod is good
[10:05] <shriphani> lansing, you there ?
[10:05] <BHSPitLappy> Jaak_, have you updated your iPod's firmware in the past month or two?
[10:05] <lansing> ya
[10:05] <BHSPitLappy> (using iTunes 7)
[10:06] <shriphani> ok go to the source-o-matic website
[10:06] <Jaak_> moox, well, i would like to know wich one out of 3 on wiki.ubu is the best Banshe, amarok, gtkpod, and why doesn;t rythmbox have a feature to put music on my pod...
[10:06] <lansing> iam there
[10:06] <shriphani> not are you running breezy dapper or hoary ?
[10:06] <Jaak_> dunno about the firmware...
[10:06] <lansing> not sure
[10:06] <BHSPitLappy> Jaak_, cause rhythmbox sucks?
[10:06] <Jaak_> BHS, wich one is better?
[10:06] <lansing> how do i check
[10:06] <shriphani> lansing, did you order the cds ?
[10:07] <moox> I'm using "listen" for sync my ipod. It is a great software but still in development.
[10:07] <lansing> no i got it from a friend
[10:07] <BHSPitLappy> Jaak_, I like banshee, but I've never used it for my iPod... I actually have to use iTunes 7 just because it's less hassle for videos, etc
[10:07] <Jaak_> listen, oh ok, that's a program, didn't understand at first.
[10:07] <shriphani> lansing, what does the cd cover say ?
[10:07] <kidbuntu> how do i install new skins for xmms through terminal?
[10:07] <lansing> hes got the origanal
[10:07] <shriphani> BHSPitLappy, i use rockbox a firmware you put on the ipod
[10:07] <lansing> i have a copy
[10:08] <kidbuntu> example i like the debian white skin like before
[10:08] <shriphani> lansing, umm your cover
[10:08] <shriphani> what does the cover say
[10:08] <Squatch> So, in Windows, I have 2 drives seen in Raid, but cfdisk and qtpart both see seperately mounted HDDs...  Any suggestions?  (And from that HOWTO that ubotu suggests, I'm stuck there too as my /dev/mapper/ directory has only "control" in it so I'm stuck with that one.)
[10:08] <BHSPitLappy> shriphani, I use rockbox and iPL sometimes.
[10:08] <shriphani> ahh
[10:08] <Asc> How might I tell what program is accessing a device and keeping it from unmounting?  Is there a way to force unmount?
[10:08] <BHSPitLappy> shriphani, but not as my primary interface.
[10:08] <lansing> it dont say ne thin
[10:08] <shriphani> ahh
[10:08] <lansing> i think iam runnin breezy
[10:08] <shriphani> lansing, anything like 6.06
[10:08] <Jaak_> BHS, do you use itunes 7 on windows or through wine?
[10:09] <avagant> Like I said before, has anyone been able to get last.fm to work in alsa?
[10:09] <fick> ...bloody windows just installed 6 secuirty updates ...have to reboot l8r
[10:09] <fick> u
[10:09] <NickaNicka> my ubuntu says "timestamp too far in the future" when trying to install dhcpd
[10:10] <NickaNicka> what does it mean?
[10:10] <Tru7h> I installed Ubuntu on my Laptop... the screen's divided into two and it's all flickery and deformed.
[10:10] <Jaak_> Who says Amarok and who says Banshe? Wich one is better?
[10:10] <Tru7h> I can see my cursor in two locations at once.
[10:10] <NickaNicka> it seems that our clock set to right time
[10:10] <shriphani> lansing, does it say anything like 5.10 or 6.06 on the cd ?
[10:10] <Asc> avagant, try using lastfm proxy, and opening it from a media player that uses ALSA.
[10:10] <lansing> 5.10 i think
[10:10] <lansing> i dont know its a burnt copy
[10:10] <shriphani> umm lansing how did ya install ubuntu ?
[10:10] <avagant> Last.fm freezes up on me whenever I use it.
[10:11] <lansing> by a burnt cd
[10:11] <shriphani> like did you click on "install" or face a text based install
[10:11] <Asc> avagant: Are you using the lastfm client, or the lastfm proxy?
[10:12] <avagant> I'm not using either, but the last time I tried it just froze when I started it.
[10:12] <O2_> I wonder what 3d game I could get freely ?  i mean small 3d game
[10:12] <lansing> all i did was pushed enter and it asked me my orgen and stuff like that
[10:12] <Asc> avagant: Last time you tried to open a lastmf related program and it froze, was the program you tried to open the lastfm client or the lastfm proxy?
[10:12] <Muffy> lansing, it asked for your organs?
[10:12] <shriphani> lansing, ok breezy
[10:12] <POVaddct> O2_: neverball
[10:13] <avagant> last exit actually.
[10:13] <lansing> ya
[10:13] <O2_> POVaddct: THANKS!
[10:14] <O2_> POVaddct:  do I have to install some drivers such as OPENGL to play it ?
[10:14] <shriphani> lansing, in the page select breezy and proceed
[10:15] <tosik> Should I use Ubuntu or Debian?
[10:15] <Popolon> plop
[10:15] <POVaddct> O2_: it does need opengl, so you need hardware 3d-accelerated gfx card
[10:15] <Asc> avagant: I give up.  Try this site.  There should be directions somewhere on it.  http://vidar.gimp.org/lastfmproxy/
[10:15] <kidbuntu> can someone help me please. after installing OpenOffice.org. it wont run
[10:15] <avagant> I think it's an alsa thing, Asc.
[10:15] <lansing> it asks 2 letter code of country then it has check boxes
[10:16] <shriphani> lansing, forget the letter code
[10:16] <shriphani> just check the boxes
[10:16] <avagant> I read somewhere they are having problems with alsa support or something.
[10:16] <POVaddct> O2_: sudo apt-get install neverball
[10:16] <lansing> all of them
[10:16] <avagant> lansing, you still having problems?
[10:16] <lansing> yes
[10:16] <shriphani> umm the ones that say sources and packages
[10:16] <lansing> ive lost my source list
[10:16] <avagant> Huh.
[10:17] <avagant> How'd you lose your source list?
[10:17] <jenda> Hello, can anyone shed some light on this dpkg error? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26272/
[10:17] <lansing> and i dont know how it happend
[10:17] <jenda> The last line is what's important
[10:17] <twisted> Hi there - don't know how to get anything 3D working. Radeon 9800 Pro, Device Manager seems to have detected it ok.
[10:17] <OptimusPrime> ubuntu is debian derived, right?
[10:17] <avagant> Did you mess around with it at all? I'm just asking.
[10:18] <avagant> Anybody know the correct way to burn an iso of ubuntu or that? Is it suppose to be a raw image, or what?
[10:18] <lansing> nope
[10:18] <shriphani> avagant, use an app
[10:18] <admel> Hi how do i format a *corrupted* pendrive ?
[10:18] <shriphani> once it is burnt you should have a few folders like boot etc
[10:18] <oskude> avagant: the download page of ubuntu has info on that
[10:18] <kidbuntu> can someone help me please. after installing OpenOffice.org. it wont run
[10:18] <avagant> No but I mean when I'm burning an image with a cdburner, is it suppose to be raw?
[10:18] <avagant> Cause there's different options for that.
[10:19] <capitalidea> Do 32bit applications require 32bit XOrgs? (I'm on Dapper Drake x86_64)
[10:19] <babwe2> avagant use k3b should be in the repo
[10:19] <avagant> I've been burning them "raw" which apparently causes them to not work well after the first install?
[10:19] <avagant> No no no, I know the cd burners, but when it asks me what form to burn the iso in, do i burn it as raw or tao or whatever?
[10:20] <capitalidea> tao.
[10:20] <tosik> OptimusPrime: Yes it is I just have problems running my wireless card with Ubuntu and was wondering if using Debian would solve my isues
[10:20] <lansing> k wat do i do after i click get sources
[10:20] <avagant> Hmm.
[10:20] <twisted> Any 3D app shows a blank screen, and crashes the comp, requiring a reset
[10:20] <OptimusPrime> cool. why is debian so backward compared to ubuntu, though?
[10:20] <oskude> avagant: afaik, that doesnt consern iso, but the method how to burn... you gotta check what your burner supports...
[10:21] <avagant> The cd's stop working right after the 1st install.
[10:21] <capitalidea> avagant: there is also dao, but you probably don't need to know about that
[10:21] <avagant> I've been burning them under raw.
[10:21] <Nintii|2> I need some help...
[10:21] <oskude> avagant: did you do the "check cd" option on the ubuntu boot cd ? to see that the burned cd is really ok ?
[10:21] <avagant> The cd's work fine.
[10:21] <tosik> OptimusPrime: what do you mean by backwards?
[10:21] <avagant> Until I install more than once.
[10:22] <oskude> avagant: so you did "check cd" ?
[10:22] <avagant> And then it takes like 3 hours to install. Haha
[10:22] <Nintii|2> it seems as though installing Ubuntu has messed up my partition table..
[10:22] <capitalidea> avagant: that's really odd
[10:22] <Nintii|2> and now I can't get back into Windows XP at all
[10:22] <avagant> Maybe it's my disks.
[10:22] <avagant> discs.
[10:22] <keez> anyone can give me an editor or a pico wget ?
[10:22] <Nintii|2> because it is saying I only have 1 partition now
[10:22] <capitalidea> avagant: it doesn't make sense at all, there is a foreign agent at work here...
[10:22] <capitalidea> SEA SERPENTS!
[10:23] <avagant> ??
[10:23] <capitalidea> That's five leeches, call me in the morning.
[10:23] <capitalidea> What brand of CDR/W are you using?
[10:23] <avagant> Hmmm.
[10:23] <voltz> I have 2 ubuntu installs,one shows nautilus icon yet the other install doesnt show it or have it in any menu,I  used file search but dont know what Im looking for...is it .deb ?
[10:23] <avagant> Memorex.
[10:23] <lansing> ??
[10:23] <Nintii|2> would someone who knows a lot about ubuntu and it's messing up of partition tables PM me?
[10:24] <idefix> is there a way to tell if a program/process has stopped responding? it isn't in the top-list, so..
[10:24] <capitalidea> odd indeed, avagant. see if the CDs are readable in windows
[10:24] <OptimusPrime> tosik, not backwards, i meant how they are with not want to jump on upgrades etc
[10:24] <keez> anyone can help me please ? i need a wget pico please
[10:25] <avagant> I'm thinking I might try another distro.
[10:25] <oskude> keez: wget pico ? what do you mean ?
[10:25] <capitalidea> avagant: in the future though, definitely burn using tao
[10:25] <keez> oskude: yes, and editor
[10:25] <Nintii|2> after I installed Ubuntu, I can't access my NTFS partitions to get into windows
[10:25] <keez> oskude: an*
[10:25] <O2_> hello, I wonder if intel release drivers for its video card?
[10:25] <oskude> keez: what ? i dont understand your question, sorry
[10:25] <Squatch> So, I need some help.  I can't get my drives to be detected as raid, they keep on getting detected as two seperate drives, I'm trying to run them in RAID 0, and I'm running through a Sil 1334 SATA controller.
[10:25] <idefix> what's the linux equivalent of the windows ctrl-alt-delete to see what your program is doing?
[10:25] <avagant> Are all the distros having the same problems with sounds?
[10:26] <capitalidea> sound problems?
[10:26] <BHSPitLappy> idefix, System>Administration>System Monitor
[10:26] <keez> oskude: well, here i can modify nothing with pico and i need a wget of pico.
[10:26] <capitalidea> I don't understand what you mean, I haven't had any sound problems.
[10:26] <avagant> Not more than oen thing being able to access the sound card yada yada.
[10:26] <keez> oskude: vi and nano doenst work too
[10:26] <Zoffix> Hi, my X just froze but not completely, I can't switch desktops by clicking on the taskbar, what are the keys to switch desktops with a keyboard? I have update manager running on another desktop, and I don't want to kill X until it finishes, I'm using Xorg/GNOME
[10:26] <keez> oskude: i cant (damn keyboard)
[10:26] <tosik> OptimusPrime: Are you saying Debian is slower to respond to the newer release of software?
[10:26] <capitalidea> avagant: ah, that has everything to do with the sound server you choose.
[10:26] <OptimusPrime> well, isnt it
[10:26] <Asc> idefix: The process monitor?  gnome-system-monitor will work, but I recommend running 'top' in a terminal.
[10:26] <Nintii|2> has anyone else here had any problems with unbuntu messing up their partition tables?
[10:26] <idefix> BHSPitLappy, hmm, I guess my installed ubuntu-version is too old
[10:27] <oskude> keez: aha ... so you want to build pico from source or what ?
[10:27] <keez> oskude: yes
[10:27] <avagant> capitalidea: If I run xmms and firefox with youtube it gets all insano and doesn't let me do much.
[10:27] <tosik> OptimusPrime: I have no idea
[10:27] <avagant> It's been working as of late, but I have no idea why.
[10:27] <oskude> keez: then google for picos website and download it...
[10:27] <lansing> avagant wat do i do about my sources
[10:27] <avagant> I tried the .asoundrc thing and sound didn't work at all so maybe I shouldn't even try and mess with it.
[10:27] <capitalidea> avagant: the most popular one is alsa, and everyone who uses alsa just installs oss compatibility so that oss pipes to alsa too. it also has to do with sharing alsa amongst apps and that's easy too
[10:27] <keez> oskude: i cant find nothing
[10:27] <avagant> Webforum!
[10:28] <avagant> capitalidea: maybe a walk through?
[10:28] <avagant> haha
[10:28] <OptimusPrime> tosik for example, debian gives you xfce 4.0 something via apt-get, whereas the current version of xfce is around 4.4 rc1
[10:28] <mart_> hi, im running xgl. and i used to have a command to run 3d apps without using it
[10:28] <mart_> somthing like nonxgl but i cannot remember what it was
[10:28] <lansing> i need that site that u told me earlyer
[10:28] <oskude> keez: hmm, pico looks like nano http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pico_text_editor so why not use nano ?
[10:29] <mart_> anyone know it?
[10:29] <avagant> lansing: ok hold on.
[10:29] <Zoffix> anybody have an idea? or is it impossible? I know I did it somehow on FC5
[10:29] <lansing> wen u got time
[10:29] <capitalidea> avagant: no idea, but I'm sure it's mentioned on the forum. Dapper Drake is treating me well, I haven't noticed this problem. I use Gentoo on another box though and I remember having to set up my alsa configuration for this. It's trivial to pull off.
[10:29] <keez> oskude: it doenst work either nano or vi
[10:29] <keez> oskude: when i use vi i cannot save the file
[10:29] <oskude> keez: then your system seems very broke
[10:30] <oskude> keez: and what file are you trying to save ?
[10:30] <capitalidea> avagant: search with terms like "alsa sharing"
[10:30] <avagant> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=185758
[10:30] <avagant> lansing.
[10:30] <keez> oskude: for what do you want to know ? :P
[10:30] <lansing> k thanx
[10:30] <Nintii|2> ok.. does anyone know... if I convert a ntfs partition to a linux-swap partition with GParted, will I be able to access those files?
[10:30] <capitalidea> Do 32bit applications require 32bit XOrgs? (I'm on Dapper Drake x86_64)
[10:30] <avagant> Gentoo also takes 3 years to install :)
[10:30] <oskude> keez: maybe your user doesnt have rights to edit that file ? (sudo?)
[10:30] <keez> oskude: if you can give me a wget of pico i'll be very greatfull
[10:30] <avagant> I don't know how you sat through that, I didn't even get halfway through.
[10:30] <keez> oskude: i am not on ubuntu
[10:31] <capitalidea> avagant: not an Athlon XP 2000 :-)
[10:31] <tosik> OptimusPrime: Thank you for the information I am still new to Linux and trying to figure out whcih way to go i.e. switch to Debian or continue with Ubuntu
[10:31] <avagant> i guess not yah.
[10:31] <voltz> I found nautilus in /usr/bin with the search file option and can opent he program from there but how do I install it into a menu or to the panel
[10:31] <oskude> keez: well, wikipedia says "Pico is a text editor for Unix computer systems, and is integrated with the Pine email client" so look for pine
[10:31] <avagant> I guess I should be thankful I have sound right now.
[10:31] <keez> oskude: ok
[10:31] <KenSentMe> I'm talking to someone who says the command ifconfig isn't recognized by Ubuntu Breezy. Isn't that a standard command, that's installed by default?
[10:31] <avagant> Gaim does play in the background occasionally while I have music set to alsa and youtube, but sometimes it gives me that error.
[10:32] <mnepton> pico is not included with Ubuntu. it has had a terrible security record and is not free.
[10:32] <oskude> keez: tip, that wikipedia site has link to it...
[10:32] <capitalidea> avagant: If it weren't for some trouble with some libs on Gentoo's AMD64 and the fact that Ubuntu 'just works' I'd probably using Gentoo on this laptop. CBA setting up all the laptop hardware though.
[10:32] <mnepton> nano > pico
[10:32] <oskude> mnepton: he/she isnt even in ubuntu, so...
[10:32] <avagant> I wanna try another distro.
[10:32] <avagant> I've tried kubuntu and xubuntu, and ubuntu.
[10:33] <mnepton> edubuntu!
[10:33] <capitalidea> Fedora has aiglx now, I think
[10:33] <keez> oskude: i cant find anything
[10:33] <avagant> aiglx?
[10:33] <jenda> Hello, can anyone shed some light on this dpkg error? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26272/
[10:33] <jenda> The important part is E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[10:34] <avagant> Um, reinstall?
[10:34] <avagant> Just kidding that sucks I know.
[10:34] <capitalidea> avagant: en.wikipedia.org/aiglx (i think)
[10:35] <mnepton> jenda: looks like /etc/apt/sources,lst may have some funky entries
[10:36] <mnepton> jenda: it looks like it's trying to access an LVM group fro repo information
[10:36] <jenda> mnepton: ok, thx, will check that.
[10:36] <mnepton> *for
[10:36] <jenda> hmm
[10:36] <capitalidea> HOLY COW, Hans Reiser arrested for murder.
[10:36] <jenda> (it's not my PC, just a Czech guy)
[10:36] <mnepton> capitalidea: really? finally?
[10:36] <jenda> capitalidea: you're kidding, right?
[10:36] <capitalidea> I am definitely not kidding. It's on the front of tuxmachines.org
[10:36] <mnepton> capitalidea: "Resier has 100% atomic commits. You are either arrested, or you are not."
[10:37] <oskude> keez: :/ http://www.washington.edu/pine/
[10:37] <MaKaTiGu1> how do i enable my webcam in ubuntu
[10:37] <mnepton> keez: why do you need pine?
[10:38] <mnepton> (or, why do you *htink* you need pine?)
[10:38] <keez> mnepton: to modify a .conf file ?
[10:38] <mnepton> keez: any text editor can do that. you do not need pine.
[10:38] <mnepton> keez: or pico. or anything else. just use nano or vi.
[10:38] <lansing> would these sources work for breezy
[10:39] <oskude> MaKaTiGu1: with luck, just by plug-and-play... https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport
[10:39] <keez> mnepton: -bash: pico: command not found
[10:39] <keez> mnepton: that's why i need a wget of pico
[10:39] <mnepton> keez: once again, most distros *do not ship pico*
[10:39] <mnepton> use. nano.
[10:40] <MaKaTiGu1> oskude: hi, how are you, im using ubuntu ryt now, thanks for the help
[10:40] <keez> mnepton: -bash: nano: command not found
[10:40] <keez> :P
[10:40] <keez> mnepton: with vi works but i cant save the file
[10:40] <wickedpuppy> why not?
[10:40] <mart_> hello again, i asked a question about playing opengl apps in XGL they dont seem to work amzingingly well
[10:40] <Muffy> keez, type ":w"
[10:41] <mart_> i found a fix, in case someone gets asked again
[10:41] <cafuego> mart_: Correct
[10:41] <mart_> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=176636
[10:41] <keez> Muffy: what ?
[10:41] <oskude> !xgl > mart_
[10:41] <kern_malloc> mart_: yah they won't, XGL pretty much takes over dri and it uses software instead of direct... making opengl slow.  I suggest using AIGLX extensions with beryl + emerald
[10:41] <mnepton> keez: that's not vi. it's permissions. no other editor is going to fix that problem.
[10:41] <Muffy> keez, didn't you say you don't know how to save in vi?
[10:41] <keez> Muffy: yea
[10:41] <capitalidea> kern_malloc: What is beryl?
[10:42] <oskude> !beryl
[10:42] <ubotu> beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ Please see #ubuntu-xgl for help with beryl. Thank You.
[10:42] <mart_> kern_malloc i'll look into it... im stil very very new
[10:42] <kern_malloc> capitalidea: a window manager forked from compiz
[10:42] <capitalidea> ah
[10:42] <Muffy> keez, you have to type ":" then "w" then <enter>
[10:42] <capitalidea> !emerald
[10:42] <avagant> What's another good linux distro?
[10:42] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about emerald - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:42] <keez> Muffy: ok, thanks anyway
[10:42] <avagant> !bam
[10:42] <capitalidea> hm
[10:42] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about bam - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:42] <kern_malloc> capitalidea: i can run beryl + emerald (the window decorator) without running XGL or AIGLX.. it just uses certain extensions in xorg and i still get direct DRI etc... it's much much faster and smoother
[10:43] <oskude> avagant: just debian ;) (please just google and make your own mind)
[10:43] <Muffy> avagant: fedora?
[10:43] <MaKaTiGu1> oskude: i can't mount my 2 partition drive in ubuntu
[10:43] <avagant> Hmm.
[10:43] <hAPPY_mAJA> How do I install a program in *.bin???
[10:43] <oskude> MaKaTiGu1: if they are not in /etc/fstab you can only mount them as root (sudo)
[10:43] <capitalidea> kermitX_: I know aiglx takes care of the dri issue, which would mean suspend finally works, right?
[10:44] <hAPPY_mAJA> How do I install a program in *.bin??
[10:44] <MaKaTiGu1> they're in /temp
[10:44] <oskude> MaKaTiGu1: whats in /temp (seems you created that dir?)
[10:44] <deep__> =)
[10:45] <MaKaTiGu1> i don't know
[10:45] <MaKaTiGu1> maube
[10:45] <wickedpuppy> hAPPY_mAJA, chmod +x file.bin and ./file.bin
[10:45] <oskude> MaKaTiGu1: /temp doesnt belong to "standard" ubuntu
[10:45] <lansing> would dapper sources work for breezy
[10:45] <MaKaTiGu1> oskude: so how do i transfer it?
[10:45] <cafuego> lansing: nay
[10:45] <oskude> MaKaTiGu1: transfer what to where ?
[10:46] <MaKaTiGu1> oskude: the mount drive
[10:46] <lansing> ok iam gunna  reainstall the whole thing then i need help wit installin programs
[10:46] <oskude> MaKaTiGu1: ok, first. are the partitions you want to mount listed in /etc/fstab ?
[10:46] <lansing> before i screw some thinup
[10:47] <lansing> so brb
[10:47] <oskude> MaKaTiGu1: or ubotu suggests "Mounting partitions in Gnome: System -> Administration -> Disks" but i never used that...
[10:48] <MaKaTiGu1> oskude: permission denied while accessing /etc/fstab
[10:48] <wickedpuppy> MaKaTiGu1, what was the command ?
[10:48] <bsdirl> yay!
[10:48] <oskude> MaKaTiGu1: yes, that can be only edited with root rights, but you can read it "cat /etc/fstab"
[10:49] <Lilandra> oskude: why would one use cat instead of more or less to read? i'm just curious...i don't know
[10:49] <MaKaTiGu1> oskude: can i paste the result here?
[10:50] <oskude> Lilandra: cause that file is so small it will (propably) fit in the terminal window (And you can scroll that too)
[10:50] <oskude> MaKaTiGu1: please use pastebin for paste(like http://phpfi.com)
[10:50] <Lilandra> oskude: but any other reason? (i first learnt of more)
[10:50] <wickedpuppy> btw less is more than more ...
[10:50] <Lilandra> wickedpuppy: that i know! :)
[10:51] <oskude> Lilandra: you can easily pipe cat
[10:51] <OptimusPrime> ew
[10:51] <Lilandra> more doesn't pipe?
[10:51] <bsdirl> cat <blah> | more
[10:51] <Lilandra> but why n ot more more <blah> ?
[10:51] <wickedpuppy> cat pipes more than less which pipes less than more ... understand ?
[10:52] <OptimusPrime> you steal souls
[10:52] <OptimusPrime> :(
[10:52] <oskude> Lilandra: well, never done that, i wonder what "less /etc/X11/xorg.conf | grep Driver" would do...
[10:52] <O2_> well come wickedpuppy!!!
[10:52] <MaKaTiGu1> oskude: its there
[10:52] <wickedpuppy> lol heya O2_ whats with the _ behind your nick ?
[10:52] <oskude> MaKaTiGu1: then you post the link here
[10:52] <Lilandra> i thought i piped more
[10:53] <O2_> wickedpuppy:  I don't know, too  : (
[10:53] <MaKaTiGu1> http://phpfi.com/162413
[10:53] <wickedpuppy> O2_, /nick O2
[10:53] <oskude> MaKaTiGu1: ok, it seems the partitions you want to mount are not there ?
[10:53] <O2> : )
[10:53] <Lilandra> oskude: find drivers...
[10:53] <Lilandra> or something
[10:54] <O2> wickedpuppy:  well, u r the kindest friend here!
[10:54] <MaKaTiGu1> oskude:  how about the partition
[10:54] <MaKaTiGu1> oskude:  how about the 2 partition
[10:54] <oskude> MaKaTiGu1: you could try System -> Administration -> Disks it seems pretty self explaining
[10:54] <wickedpuppy> O2, there are others as well .. just that i am too free LOL
[10:54] <bsdirl> or df -h <partition>
[10:54] <oskude> MaKaTiGu1: hda7 is the root "/" and hda8 is the swap
[10:54] <bsdirl> or du
[10:55] <leggy> hi...i have the following question: i can synchronize the profiles in firefox on systems with windows and ubuntu by using a single profile folder in a fat32 partition! Is it also possible using such a method to synchronize the user profiles of the opera browser?
[10:55] <oskude> leggy: wouldnt that be a question to opera people ?
[10:55] <OptimusPrime> leggy thats cool. thanks for the idea
[10:56] <MaKaTiGu1> oskude: when i am accessing the other drives, permission denied, why is that?
[10:56] <oskude> MaKaTiGu1: what driver ? where and how and with what ?
[10:56] <deep__> MaKaTiGu1, sudo?
[10:56] <O2> wickedpuppy:   :-)     I wonder how to see my laptop's cpu speed, do u know how?
[10:56] <oskude> MaKaTiGu1: *drives
[10:56] <wickedpuppy> O2, cat /etc/cpuinfo
[10:56] <MaKaTiGu1> oskude: You do not have the permissions necessary to view the contents of "disks-conf-hda1".
[10:57] <oskude> MaKaTiGu1: huh, whats that ? what gives that error ?
[10:57] <cafuego> wickedpuppy/O2: /proc/cpuinfi
[10:57] <Lilandra> wickedpuppy i don't have that
[10:57] <cafuego> s/i/o/
[10:57] <leggy> i found a wiki for firefox at ubuntuusers...so i thought that maybe someone has experiences in opera connecting to ubuntu here 8)
[10:57] <wickedpuppy> oh oh
[10:57] <wickedpuppy> pardon my mistake
[10:57] <wickedpuppy> cafuego, thanks ... O2 its cat /proc/cpuinfo
[10:57] <wickedpuppy> my apology to Lilandra too ...
[10:58] <Lilandra> np wickedpuppy
[10:58] <MaKaTiGu1> when i click the browse icon in disk manager, hda1 is the windows drive
[10:58] <Lilandra> but cool! i never knew that
[10:58] <cafuego> Lilandra: Lots of fun stuff in /proc
[10:58] <wickedpuppy> hmms ... watching naruto isn't good for helping ... Lilandra try catting /proc/meminfo too ..
[10:58] <Lilandra> i should hang out here and read and learn from everybody's questions. maybe one day i'll know enough to pass it on
[10:58] <oskude> MaKaTiGu1: hmm, does your user have sudo rights ? did it ask for a password as you opened Disks Manager ?
[10:58] <wickedpuppy> Lilandra, then there will be new version of ubuntu with new problems
[10:58] <wickedpuppy> :P
[10:59] <Lilandra> well...yeah :)
[10:59] <MaKaTiGu1> oskude; nop
[10:59] <Lilandra> i mean i got to be dynamic
[10:59] <wickedpuppy> Lilandra, yup ...
[10:59] <O2>  Thanks, wickedpuppy & cafuego
[10:59] <Lilandra> i think i want all my laptop issues fixed on dapper first before i go hardcore and edgy cuz i want to know if something's broke
[10:59] <avagant> I don't want edgy because I finally have my sound semi working and I'm scurred.
[10:59] <Lilandra> not just figure i never got it working in the first palce
[10:59] <oskude> MaKaTiGu1: hmm, so it seems that user doesnt have sudo rights, do "sudo echo foobar" in terminal. if it doesnt print "foobar", you dont have sudo rights...
[11:00] <oskude> MaKaTiGu1: can you login with the user that you created upon installation ?
[11:00] <avagant> Whohooo <---rights
[11:00] <bsdirl> hoary hated my sound on my PII, breezy hated my videocard, and Dapper kinda likes both of em
[11:00] <O2> wickedpuppy:  godness!!! my cpu speed is 598.651MHz!!!    its origin is 1.7GHz!! why???
[11:00] <fuffalo> i've got a geforce 5200 card that has svideo out, the svideo out kicks in when my computer is booting, but right when it gets to the login screen my tv goes black and I can't see anything - what do i have setup wrong
[11:00] <wickedpuppy> eh ah ...
[11:01] <MaKaTiGu1> oskude: it prints
[11:01] <bsdirl> except there's some drawing errors sometimes, otherwise I have DRI on my S3 savage card WEEE
[11:01] <Lilandra> mine is 749....i think
[11:01] <oskude> MaKaTiGu1: it prints "foobar" ? and asked for password before that ?
[11:01] <avagant> That's what mine did!
[11:01] <wickedpuppy> O2, that i do not know .. mine is 2020 Mhz ... which is correct ...
[11:01] <MaKaTiGu1> oskude: yes
[11:01] <avagant> <---feels special.
[11:01] <bsdirl> cpu MHz         : 1111.336
[11:02] <bsdirl>  yay
[11:02] <oskude> MaKaTiGu1: hmm, and youre usinf ubuntu dapper ? wihtout any 3rd party repos ?
[11:02] <O2> mine is laptop, pentium m 1.7GHz cpu.
[11:02] <bsdirl> my friend has a Pentium M in his desktop
[11:02] <Lilandra> wait, what's clock?
[11:02] <MaKaTiGu1> oskude ubuntu 6.06
[11:02] <avagant> I learned there are better ways to sudo today.
[11:02] <avagant> sudo -s and sudo su
[11:02] <bsdirl> sudo -i!
[11:02] <O2> wickedpuppy:  it will slow down for saving battry........... how could I control it?
[11:02] <gliezl> anyone using ubuntu livecd?
[11:03] <ra21vi> hi, :) i m ravi
[11:03] <avagant> what is the difference between those anyways?
[11:03] <bsdirl> ubuntu 6.06 doesn't install right on my comp, so I got xubuntu ^_^
[11:03] <oskude> MaKaTiGu1: well, i cant help with Disks Manager as i never used it (but seems to work here) so i could only help on adding them to /etc/fstab manually...
[11:03] <wickedpuppy> O2, that will be ... acpi problem i think ... sorry dude .. i havn't used linux on laptop for years ...
[11:03] <ra21vi> i have got some problem regarding XServer after installing ogl and then removing it
[11:03] <avagant> xubuntu doesn't install right on mine, then again none of these seem to be.
[11:03] <ra21vi> i cannt start X now
[11:03] <ra21vi> after reboot *
[11:04] <MaKaTiGu1> oskude: so how do i add those drives
[11:04] <OptimusPrime> carefully
[11:04] <wickedpuppy> ra21vi, you meant after installing xgl ? or perhaps i do not know whats ogl ..
[11:04] <oskude> MaKaTiGu1: first, which partitions do you want to mount ?
[11:04] <ra21vi> How can i reinstall the XServer
[11:04] <ra21vi> wickedpuppy: yup
[11:04] <avagant> what's the difference between sudo i sudo s and sudo su
[11:04] <ra21vi> wickedpuppy: thats XGL :)
[11:04] <avagant> !sudo
[11:04] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[11:05] <MaKaTiGu1> oskude: partition 5
[11:05] <bsdirl> XGL looks leet but it hates my card lol
[11:05] <wickedpuppy> ra21vi, for that pls ask in #ubuntu-xgl
[11:05] <ra21vi> same here
[11:05] <ra21vi> ok wickedpuppy
[11:05] <oskude> MaKaTiGu1: and on which ide bus and is it master or slave ?
[11:05] <ra21vi> :)
[11:06] <MaKaTiGu1> oskude: i dont know the ide bus but the partition 5 drive is in the master HD
[11:07] <O2> oh,  I know now why the 3d game run so slow in my laptop....
[11:07] <avagant> it's what's for dinner.
[11:08] <OptimusPrime> im thinkin arby's
[11:08] <oskude> MaKaTiGu1: well, how we are going to know where it is, if you dont know where its plugged ? :/ does the Disk Manager say which one (you think) it is ? /dev/hd?5
[11:08] <avagant> but really what's the difference in sudo -i sudo -s and sudo su?
[11:08] <bsdirl> man sudo :D
[11:08] <ra21vi> whats the name of the xserver package without xgl
[11:08] <avagant> sheeeeeeeeesssh
[11:08] <avagant> ok
[11:08] <ra21vi> i mean default one
[11:09] <ture> ciaoragazzi
[11:09] <ra21vi> hey
[11:09] <ra21vi> :(
[11:09] <ra21vi> no reply
[11:10] <MaKaTiGu1> :(
[11:10] <oskude> MaKaTiGu1: are the partitions on the same hd as ubuntu ?
[11:10] <bsdirl> xorg-xserver I think
[11:10] <ra21vi> bsdirl: ok let me try
[11:10] <ra21vi> thanks buddy
[11:11] <bsdirl> hope thats it ^_^
[11:11] <oskude> MaKaTiGu1: if they are on the same disk as the ubuntu youre using atm, then it would be /dev/hda5
[11:11] <MaKaTiGu1> oskude: yes
[11:12] <bsdirl> well good morning folks, I have to sleep
[11:12] <ra21vi> bsdirl: no buddy, that isnt it.. sudo apt-get install that gives no such package error
[11:12] <bsdirl> *waves*
[11:12] <bsdirl> oh
[11:12] <bsdirl> I'll look right fast ra21vi
[11:12] <oskude> MaKaTiGu1: ok, now we want to know where we want to mount it ? normal place would be in /media, like /media/hda5 (but you can mount it where ever you want)
[11:13] <ra21vi> bsdirl: ok
[11:13] <bsdirl> xserver-xorg-core
[11:13] <ra21vi> bsdirl: ok
[11:13] <MaKaTiGu1> oskude: i created a directory wilson
[11:13] <ra21vi> :)
[11:13] <oskude> MaKaTiGu1: where ? full path
[11:14] <ra21vi> ok
[11:14] <ra21vi> got it
[11:14] <bsdirl> w00t!
[11:14] <ra21vi> still no much better
[11:14] <MaKaTiGu1>  /dude/wilson
[11:14] <bsdirl> awwww
[11:14] <ra21vi> i will have to delve deep into this problem
[11:14] <bsdirl> Im logging, so good luck!
[11:14] <ra21vi> rebooting .................
[11:14] <ra21vi> k]
[11:14] <ra21vi> eit
[11:15] <ra21vi> ./q
[11:15] <oskude> MaKaTiGu1: sure ? is that in your home dir ? or is that really /dude/wilson ? or ~/dude/wilson eg. /home/dude/wilson ?
[11:16] <mAIJK> I use Valknut as an DC client but hubs kick me out becaus Its to old, any idea how to fix or another dc client?
[11:17] <MaKaTiGu1> oskude: ok sorry, its /home/dude/wilson
[11:17] <gerhard> morning
[11:17] <oskude> MaKaTiGu1: ok, now, what format is the partition ?
[11:18] <MaKaTiGu1> oskude: FAT32
[11:18] <gerhard> I have VMware Player and I created a VM with easy vmx. now, I want to install windows with my dvd recorder, but VMware Player does not find the right recorder, I guess it tries to use the cd recorder. how can I now change the vmx file, so that it accesses the dvd recorder?
[11:18] <oskude> MaKaTiGu1: ok, sec
[11:20] <oskude> MaKaTiGu1: now open the /etc/fstab for editing "sudo /etc/fstab"
[11:21] <oskude> MaKaTiGu1: and add this to the end of that file "/dev/hda5  /home/dude/wilson  vfat  rw,user,noauto  0  0" (without the "" of course) (shift+insert is paste)
[11:21] <Fracture> I share a single boot partition between a dapper install and an edgy install.  Whenever one of them upgrades their kernel, update-grub is run, which re-does the menu.lst pointing all kernels to the current root partition.  Is there a way to solve this ?
[11:21] <MaKaTiGu1> oskude: ok, tnx
[11:22] <oskude> MaKaTiGu1: then ctrl+x to exit (Asks to save) and then you can mount that with "mount ~/wilson"
[11:22] <acersales> hi i was going through linux learning and there is a lot of mention nerk administration, nerk time protocol, nerk concept and application i want to ask what is the meaning of nerk with linux administration ? what do they mean by it ?
[11:22] <surface> Fracture:  is update-grub an ELF? or a script?
[11:22] <MaKaTiGu1> command not found
[11:23] <oskude> MaKaTiGu1: and unmount with "umount ~/wilson" (theres allso a panel applet to mount things with a click)
[11:23] <surface> nerk?
[11:23] <Fracture> surface: shell script
[11:23] <oskude> MaKaTiGu1: if you say "command not found" please allso paste the command :)
[11:23] <acersales> surface what do they mean by nerk time protocol, nerk concept , nerk administration ?
[11:23] <surface> Fracture:  try to hack it if that is a shell script.
[11:23] <boink> "nerk"
[11:24] <boink> is that nerd? :P
[11:24] <oskude> MaKaTiGu1: as i dont know what you typed and got "command not found"
[11:24] <surface> acersales:  neveer heard about it ... "nerd" i know
[11:24] <acersales> ok surface
[11:25] <MaKaTiGu1> oskude:  sudo /etc/fstab
[11:25] <acersales> so what does ntp protocol stand for ?
[11:25] <oskude> MaKaTiGu1: oh sorry, my bad should be "sudo nano /etc/fstab"
[11:25] <MaKaTiGu1> :)
[11:26] <Fracture> surface: geesh. I don't think I am THAT good at shell programming
[11:26] <acersales> oh may be they mean short of network :)
[11:26] <pacman> anyone awake over here
[11:26] <acersales> nerk ne(two)rk
[11:26] <Mantits> I'm using a sound card that appears to be unsupported
[11:26] <acersales> quiet silly anyway thanks surface
[11:26] <MaKaTiGu1> k hold on, tnx
[11:26] <Mantits> Is there a fix or do I have to just live w/o sound?
[11:27] <Mantits> lspci: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) High Definition Audio Controller (rev 01)
[11:27] <pacman> I'm having a problem getting the right proprietary drivers for my ATI card
[11:29] <frtdx> hello
[11:30] <[Nige] > hi all
[11:30] <[Nige] > anyone played with freevo?
[11:31] <Ramunas> hello everybody :)
[11:31] <mnepton> Ramunas!
[11:31] <mnepton> holy crap! ltns!
[11:31] <MaKaTiGu1> oskude: mount ~/wilson ----- > mount point /home/dude/wilson does not exist
[11:32] <oskude> MaKaTiGu1: and, does it exist ?
[11:32] <Mantits> hmmm
[11:32] <Mantits> Imma format my linux partition and install fedora core 5 instead
[11:32] <Mantits> k bye
[11:32] <MaKaTiGu1> Oskude: yes, /home/dude/wilson
[11:33] <Ramunas> mnepton: I thought I saw your nick somewhere
[11:33] <oskude> MaKaTiGu1: so your user name is "dude" ?
[11:33] <MaKaTiGu1> odkude: yes
[11:34] <oskude> MaKaTiGu1: hmm, could you pastenbin your /etc/fstab again
[11:34] <MaKaTiGu1> ok
[11:37] <oskude> MaKaTiGu1: brb
[11:42] <avagant> hmmmm sudo doesn't ask me for my password anymore.
[11:42] <avagant> how do i logout enough so that it asks for it again?
[11:42] <avagant> it just goes straight to root.
[11:42] <shriphani> avagant, just wait for a while
[11:42] <oskude> avagant: reopen terminal (it save the password for that session for 5mins or so)
[11:43] <MaKaTiGu1> oskude: thanks you....
[11:43] <MaKaTiGu1> oskude: thank you....
[11:43] <MaKaTiGu1> oskude: finally
[11:43] <oskude> MaKaTiGu1: working ?
[11:43] <MaKaTiGu1> wohh
[11:43] <MaKaTiGu1> yes
[11:44] <avagant> I got kinda nervous for a minute.
[11:44] <MaKaTiGu1> oskude i miss my files...heheheh
[11:44] <oskude> MaKaTiGu1: and can you allso read and write that as normal user ? (im fearing)
[11:44] <MaKaTiGu1> k, ill try
[11:45] <MaKaTiGu1> it's working...,heheheh
[11:45] <MaKaTiGu1> thanks a lot oskude.....
[11:46] <oskude> MaKaTiGu1: youre welcome (but i still wonder that it works:)
[11:46] <MaKaTiGu1> oskude: can i do that in the remaing drives?
[11:47] <oskude> MaKaTiGu1: yup, just change the dev, mount point and filesystem
[11:48] <oskude> MaKaTiGu1: if one is a ntfs, it seems you need to use "user,noauto,umask=007,gid=46" to be able to read it (i dont suggest to write on ntfs)
[11:48] <MaKaTiGu1> oskude: dev/hda5  /home/dude/wilson  vfat  rw,user,noauto  0  0 ---> i'll just change the mounting point
[11:48] <MaKaTiGu1> oskude: same syntax?
[11:49] <oskude> MaKaTiGu1: you need to change the /dev/hda5 too
[11:49] <oskude> MaKaTiGu1: for vfat (fat32) it seems you can use those mount options
[11:50] <MaKaTiGu1> oskude: the 2 drives are in ntfs
[11:51] <oskude> MaKaTiGu1: then change the /dev/hda5 to the right partition number, change the mount point (remember to make that dir first) and for ntfs use options "user,noauto,umask=007,gid=46" instead
[11:54] <oskude> MaKaTiGu1: fyi: "Disks Manager" used these options for my ntfs partition "defaults,nls=utf8,umask=007,gid=46"
[11:54] <MaKaTiGu1> oskude: i more thing, webcam, how do i enable it
[11:55] <oskude> MaKaTiGu1: depends, have you looked if your webcam is listed here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras
[11:55] <dimbon> test and hallo
[11:55] <oskude> MaKaTiGu1: and here should be some help https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam (but i never used a webcam)
[11:56] <oskude> MaKaTiGu1: but in best case it should be just plug-and-play...
[11:57] <alfred> bonjour je suis nouveau sur ubuntu..
[11:58] <oskude> !fr
[11:58] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[11:58] <lansing> hey ppl iam back
[11:58] <alfred> je voudrais savoir comment monter fdo merci
[11:58] <dimbon> bonjour
[11:59] <lansing> hey avagant u still here??
[11:59] <MaKaTiGu1> oskude: ok, thanks a lot...
[11:59] <oskude> MaKaTiGu1: np
[11:59] <alfred> bonjour,comment monter fdo pour des sauvegardes. merci
[12:00] <bun-bun> !fr > alfred
[12:03] <lansing> can some one help me install java??
[12:04] <oskude> !java > lansing
[12:04] <illvarg> hi! is 6.10 going to be released at the end of the month?
[12:04] <oskude> !schedule > illvarg
[12:04] <blackpaw> hello, fine people.
[12:04] <lansing> thanx again oskude
[12:05] <cntb> !fixboot
[12:05] <illvarg> !schedule
[12:05] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about fixboot - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:05] <ubotu> Ubuntu uses a strict timetable for releases, which means that sometimes newly released programs miss the timetable. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases for more. Edgy schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseSchedule
[12:05] <oskude> !grub > cntb
[12:05] <ch4n5> HAL deamon can't be initialized. How to fix this error?
[12:05] <cntb> ty
[12:05] <bun-bun> !easyubuntu
[12:05] <ubotu> EasyUbuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ ; for help and or discussions about EasyUbuntu please join #easyubuntu.
[12:06] <lansing> ive got breezy will that java work
[12:06] <illvarg> oskude: tnx
[12:06] <lansing> will java 5 work on breezy
[12:07] <oskude> lansing: propably, but the helps on ubotu are mostly for the actual version of ubuntu...
[12:07] <kemik> lansing: yeah it works with breezy
[12:10] <mart1> hi there ... how do I customize my keyboard layouts in fluxbox?
[12:10] <mart1> this doesn't work:
[12:10] <mart1>   setxkbmap -layout "us,es" -option "grp:alt_shift_toggle"
[12:10] <ch4n5>  HAL deamon can't be initialized. How to fix this error?
[12:11] <mart1> (it worked on a centos distro)
[12:11] <oskude> !work
[12:11] <ubotu> Doesn't work is a strong statement. Does it sit on the couch all day? Does it want more money? Is it on IRC all the time? Please be specific! Examples of what doesn't work tend to help too.
[12:11] <frtdx> lol
[12:11] <scanwinder> can someone reccomend some linux-complatible portable media players - like ipod but more linux friendly
[12:12] <oskude> scanwinder: i would say, any device that can be mounted as disk... (and plays ogg)
[12:12] <frtdx> scanwinder: u can always use RockBox on any media player in the market right now
[12:12] <frtdx> www.RockBox.org
[12:12] <bun-bun> scanwinder# i'm pretty happy with my iriver
[12:12] <dennda> is there any tool to recover deleted files which where stored on a logical ext3 partition?
[12:12] <scanwinder> bun-bun, which iriver? im interested in iriver clix
[12:13] <bun-bun> scanwinder# i have an older one, the model # escapes me right now
[12:13] <bun-bun> scanwinder# i think it was one of their first hard disk based models
[12:13] <oskude> dennda: do "apt-cache search undelete" you get couple tools, but i never used them
[12:13] <dennda> thanks. i will try
[12:14] <dennda> these tools are only for the use with ntfs / ext2 :(
[12:14] <ch4n5> oskude: HAL deamon can't be initialized. How to fix this error?
[12:14] <oskude> dennda: yeah, saw that now too (but normally ext2 tools work with ext3)
[12:15] <oskude> ch4n5: sorry, no idea
[12:15] <bun-bun> scanwinder# it's an H340
[12:15] <dennda> i will give it a try
[12:15] <oskude> dennda: please dont, they explicit say doesnt work with ext3!
[12:15] <dennda> hm :(
[12:16] <oskude> dennda: try asking again (with interval) or try google/ubuntuforums.org
[12:16] <dennda> i will do so. thank you, oskude
[12:16] <lansing> will java 5 work for breezy
[12:17] <oskude> dennda: hups ? look for "undelete" here :/ http://batleth.sapienti-sat.org/projects/FAQs/ext3-faq.html
[12:17] <dennda> i am recently trying apt-cache search ext3
[12:17] <dennda> *recently = now
[12:18] <lansing> hey oskude i hav a ?
[12:18] <lansing> will java 5 work for ubuntu breezy
[12:18] <oskude> lansing: didnt someone allready answer to that ?
[12:18] <lansing> not that i seen
[12:19] <oskude> lansing: hmm "<kemik> lansing: yeah it works with breezy"
[12:19] <lansing> ok thanx so much
[12:20] <mart1> anybody knowing how to customize keyboard layouts in fluxbox?
[12:20] <lansing> for ur help i do apreshiate this alot since iam new n all
[12:20] <oskude> lansing: you know that the strong point of java is that it runs on "any" os ? ;)
[12:20] <lansing> o ok kool
[12:20] <oskude> lansing: well, i cant help on java, i never use it...
[12:21] <lansing> o k
[12:21] <LSD`> 'write once, run anywhere' never really happened with java, lol
[12:21] <znull> heya ubuntu runs under a old p1 mmx 266 32/RAM 2 MB video ati rage laptop
[12:21] <lansing> but u can help wit others right
[12:21] <LSD`> znull: you'd have to have killed the GUI with that little RAM
[12:21] <bun-bun> lansing# check out easyubuntu if you're just looking to get java up and running.
[12:21] <hockyhair> hello
[12:22] <hockyhair> how can i change the default startdir for terminals
[12:22] <hockyhair> say eterm or aterm
[12:22] <screechingcat> oskude : it is
[12:22] <hockyhair> i looked at man coulnd see anything
[12:23] <fred_> How can I know all the versions available for a package (in my case, mozilla-firefox) ?
[12:23] <screechingcat> oskude : its sudo apt-get install sun-java 5
[12:23] <screechingcat> oskude, or something like that
[12:23] <oskude> hockyhair: one way could be adding "cd /where/you/want/to/go" to the end of ~/.bashrc
[12:24] <hockyhair> oskude: ty!
[12:24] <screechingcat> anyone here playing warzone2100 ?
[12:24] <hockyhair> thank you ;)
[12:25] <hockyhair> oskude: do you use gnome or better yet beryl by chance?
[12:25] <oskude> fred_: normally theres only one version in "standard" ubuntu repos
[12:25] <oskude> !xgl > hockyhair
[12:25] <screechingcat> i cant get it to install
[12:25] <lansing> wat do i try to find it and install it
[12:25] <hockyhair> i have it up
[12:25] <hockyhair> i just am having issues with pypanel
[12:25] <fred_> oskude, So it's not possible to do something like this : aptitude install mozilla-firefox=1.0.8 ?
[12:25] <oskude> fred_: hmm, dunno, sorry, never done that
[12:26] <hockyhair> first it was loading before beryl and not covering all desktops, now it loads after (i changed settings in sessions) but after beryl loads it doesnt load at all
[12:26] <hockyhair> it's set for 60 and beryl is set for 20
[12:26] <dennda> oskude, i just found a statement about one of ext3s qualitys that do not allow file recovery
[12:26] <oskude> hockyhair: beryl support is at #ubuntu-xgl (as ubotu told you)
[12:27] <oskude> dennda: yup, i gave you a link and a tip...
[12:27] <dennda> unfortunately this won't work. thank you anyway, oskude
[12:27] <hockyhair> thanks oskude
[12:27] <sykes^> Anyone here use the G15 keyboard ang G5 mouse in Ubuntu? (logitech)
[12:27] <LaRevolucion> hi all
[12:27] <LaRevolucion> :)
[12:27] <sykes^> Hi
[12:28] <fred_> oskude, The problem is, after updating firefox, aptitude remove mozilla-firefox-locale-ja.  Apparently, there is a conflict and both packages cannot co-exist with the latest versions.  I would like to undo the upgrade.  Isn't it possible somehow?
[12:28] <sykes^> !g5
[12:28] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about g5 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:28] <sykes^> !g15
[12:28] <LaRevolucion> I've installed ubuntu-server.. now I want to install X. How can I do ?
[12:28] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about g15 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:28] <wrabbit^> !whatsayyou
[12:28] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about whatsayyou - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:28] <LSD`> !42
[12:28] <sykes^> !logitech
[12:28] <oskude> fred_: im just reading "man apt-get" and it says " A specific version of a package can be selected for installation by  following the package name with an equals and the version of  the package to select."
[12:28] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about 42 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:28] <LSD`> ...
[12:28] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about logitech - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:28] <sykes^> Gah
[12:28] <wrabbit^> LSD! zomg, you've found a bug
[12:28] <sykes^> Anyone use G15 and/or G5 here?
[12:29] <screechingcat> fred_, try thru synaptic
[12:29] <LaRevolucion> !X
[12:29] <ubotu> x is the X Window System; it's the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type this in a console: sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  -  To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[12:29] <wrabbit^> As if ubotu doesn't know 42
[12:29] <oskude> fred_: and that means the package version, not the "program" version" (afaik)
[12:29] <LSD`> how can it *not* know that 42 is the answer to life, the universe and everything? Even google calculator knows that! :P
[12:29] <wrabbit^> lol
[12:29] <wrabbit^> it does?
[12:29] <LaRevolucion> !install X
[12:29] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about install X - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:29] <sykes^> LSD`, Is 42 the calculation of life?
[12:30] <LSD`> wrabbit^: type "the answer to life, the universe and everything' into google and the first result should be google calculator telling you it equals 42
[12:30] <wrabbit^> 42 is the meaning of life, the universe and everything sykes^
[12:30] <fred_> Looking at aptitude's log file, I see this : [UPGRADE]  firefox 1.0.8-0ubuntu5.10.1 -> 1.5.dfsg+<IP_ADDRESS>-0ubuntu5.10.3
[12:30] <lansing> can some one help me install java i got it now i tryin to use the terminal to install it fully
[12:30] <sykes^> wrabbit^, I dont get it... What does 42 have to do with everything?
[12:30] <LSD`> sykes^: Hitchhikers guide to the galaxy?
[12:30] <wrabbit^> LSD`: that is freakin' awesome :)
[12:30] <sykes^> LSD`, lol ok
[12:30] <wrabbit^> sykes^: Never read Douglas Adams?
[12:31] <LSD`> sykes^: you've never heard of hitchhikers guide to the galaxy?!?
[12:31] <oskude> !ontopic
[12:31] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[12:31] <sykes^> Never heard of him, but I've heard of the filk HGTTG
[12:31] <sykes^> film
[12:31] <fred_> However if I do aptitude install mozilla-firefox=1.0.8-0ubuntu5.10.1 it says the version cannot be found.
[12:32] <sykes^> Does anyone use the G15 keyboard and/or the G5 mouse here? (logitech) Need some help finding drivers for them (g5 is most important)
[12:32] <sykes^> -anyone
[12:32] <sykes^> Or no, +anyone
[12:33] <oskude> sykes^: well, ive used ps/2 and usb mouses/keyboards and they work out-of-the-box... are those some weird hardware ?
[12:34] <sykes^> G5 is a gaming mouse so you can set the sensitivity directly on the mouse (if you want to sniper or something its betetr with low sense in-game), and g15 got a LCD display
[12:34] <sykes^> Supid info: The keyboard cost me $80 and the mouse $68 :P
[12:34] <sykes^> stupidDDD*
[12:34] <Kryczek> Hello! I just installed Ubuntu and everything I think I'll need for a "normal user" usage ;) except that Firefox cannot play videos on the CNN website.... any idea what package I have to install to enable Firefox to play embedded (Windows Media I suppose) videos?
[12:34] <oskude> sykes^: well, does the manufacturer have linux drivers ?
[12:34] <sykes^> Nope
[12:35] <wickedpuppy> sykes^, for exotic hardware , hope the manufacturer has the drivers or one of those who own it is also a ilnux hacker ...
[12:36] <sykes^> wickedpuppy, Ok, I'll try to become a linux hacker then :P
[12:36] <oskude> sykes^: then i would suggest to google (or wait for someone here to have the same hardware working)
[12:36] <sykes^> Or I'm going to buy a new keyboard this month anyways, this k-board sucks balls
[12:36] <oskude> sykes^: 1st hit :/ http://adterrasperaspera.com/blog/2006/06/20/logitech-g5-review-under-linux/
[12:36] <sykes^> oskude, checking
[12:37] <capitalidea> I just installed swiftfox using the AMD64 deb provided on its homepage, but when I try to run swiftfox what actually happens is that firefox is started. :-(
[12:37] <oskude> capitalidea: whats swiftfox ?
[12:37] <sykes^> oskude, Thought that only was a reviw
[12:37] <capitalidea> it's a leaner version of firefox
[12:38] <oskude> sykes^: did you scroll to the xorg.conf file ? :/
[12:38] <oskude> capitalidea: and did they have ubuntu dapper packages ?
[12:38] <sykes^> oskude, No I'm still 97% noob on linux, but gonna check it now
[12:38] <j2dope> hi. can I connect to WPA enabled wireless networks on ubuntu?
[12:38] <mnepton> Kryczek: sudo apt-get install mplayer-mozilla
[12:39] <capitalidea> oskude: I don't believe so.
[12:39] <mnepton> Kryczek: and even then, the latest MS codecs are a problem because MS consider their AV codecs a DANGEROUS SECRET THAT MUST BE PROTECTED!
[12:39] <mnepton> *sigh*
[12:39] <oskude> capitalidea: well ...
[12:39] <lansing> help plz iam tryin to install java but it says couldnt find package
[12:40] <kemik> oskude: since "sun-java" isnt free, it's not supported in the official ubuntu repos...
[12:40] <kemik> (unless that's changed in dapper && edgy.. i dunno about that)
[12:40] <kemik> lansing: follow the wikipages
[12:40] <capitalidea> oskude: well...?
[12:40] <lansing> witch is
[12:40] <oskude> capitalidea: if they dont have ubuntu dapper packages, youre only hope is to compile it yourself...
[12:40] <capitalidea> which is*
[12:41] <sykes^> oskude, I have to reload X after I change the xorg.conf, right?
[12:41] <capitalidea> oskude: Why is that? What is wrong with the deb?
[12:41] <kemik> lansing: use google. im not gonna do it for you
[12:41] <oskude> sykes^: yup
[12:41] <sykes^> oskude, Ok, brb
[12:41] <j2dope> anyone? do I need anything special to connect to WPA wireless networks on ubuntu?
[12:41] <oskude> capitalidea: it has to be for ubuntu dapper !
[12:41] <lansing> k
[12:41] <shylaa> hello can any one help me if I upgrade to LTS from 5.04 do i keep same settings like dual monitor
[12:41] <kemik> j2dope: thought that was impossible in linux
[12:41] <j2dope> really?
[12:41] <mnepton> j2dope: sudo apt-get install network-manager-gnome
[12:41] <yango> why are some flash movies displayed wrongly with the flash plugin for firefox?
[12:41] <kemik> j2dope: WPA i mean
[12:41] <yango> especially regarding fonts
[12:41] <oskude> shylaa: in theory yes...
[12:41] <mnepton> kemik: it's 100% possible
[12:41] <capitalidea> oskude: Why? I'm fishing for the technical details here...
[12:42] <kemik> mnepton: ah cool.. WPA2 also ?
[12:42] <Kryczek> mnepton: thanks, I'll install mozilla-mplayer :) Which actually brings me to one last question, if you don't mind... Why is it for example that mozilla-mplayer appears in the list of packages of Synaptic, but not in the "Add/Remove Software" interface?
[12:42] <sykes> Ok lets see if it works
[12:42] <mnepton> kemik: you betchya
[12:42] <shylaa> oskude thankyou
[12:42] <oskude> capitalidea: can you install windows xp programs on windows 3.1 ?
[12:42] <kemik> j2dope: dont listen to me then, listen to mnepton
[12:42] <kemik> :D
[12:42] <j2dope> heheh all good kemik
[12:42] <capitalidea> oskude: Is Ubuntu no longer based on Debian?
[12:42] <j2dope> thanks mnepton, installing now
[12:42] <oskude> capitalidea: ubuntu dapper != ubuntu breezy != debian what ever
[12:43] <oskude> capitalidea: yeah its BASED on debian, but its NOT debian
[12:43] <j2dope> ok, gonna try it now, brb in 2 mins if mnepton is right ;)
[12:43] <capitalidea> But it is linux and the path to swiftfox did not magically get turned into the path to firefox by the Mozilla Foundation Fairy.
[12:43] <oskude> !debian > capitalidea
[12:43] <shriphani> !debian
[12:43] <ubotu> Debian is "the rock upon which Ubuntu is founded". To see more details on the relationship, see: http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/relationship
[12:43] <mnepton> and if any of you tell my girlfriend i said that, i'm coming to live with *you* when she laughs me out of the house.
[12:43] <oskude> capitalidea: linux is just the kernel
[12:44] <capitalidea> this is becoming very exasperating very quickly.
[12:44] <shriphani> capitalidea, distros adhere to the linux standard base
[12:44] <shriphani> always
[12:45] <capitalidea> linux standard base? do mean the kernel or something external to that?
[12:45] <oskude> capitalidea: well, you just have to accept that ubuntu != debian, when it comes to install debian debs...
[12:45] <Nem1> Does anybody knows how to install Limewire on linux edubuntu?
[12:45] <kemik> shriphani: do they ? you're referring to ubuntu strictly now right ?
[12:45] <shriphani> kemik, all distros
[12:46] <capitalidea> I remain uncovinced.
[12:46] <Kryczek> Nem1: I think GtkGnutella uses the same network than Limewire
[12:46] <sykes> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26282/
[12:46] <sykes> How fix that? Cant find any x64 edition
[12:46] <mnepton> Nem1: gtk-gnutella is your path of least resistance
[12:46] <shriphani> ts you to know: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure alsa is selected by double clicking on the volume control,
[12:46] <Nem1> kryczek, what is this?
[12:46] <shriphani> http://www.freestandards.org/en/LSB
[12:46] <Nem1> GtkGnutella???
[12:46] <Kryczek> Nem1: another program, just not called "Limewire" but it should be compatible as far as I know :)
[12:47] <Aaron1> im setting up ubuntu now and setting up the partitions with one NFTS, one FAT32, and one Extended partition that has EXT3, EXT3 Home and a Swap
[12:47] <Aaron1> is it ok to have the Swap partition within an extended partition
[12:47] <Nem1> where can i find it??
[12:47] <mnepton> sykes: you don;t fix it. there is no Flash for x86-64. chroot a 32 bit Fx or run the i386 version.
[12:47] <shriphani> and capitalidea what is your objective ?
[12:47] <Aaron1> does it make any difference if you use extended partitions
[12:47] <Kryczek> mnepton: sorry to bother you, but apparently you missed my question ;p
[12:47] <Kryczek> mnepton: thanks, I'll install mozilla-mplayer :) Which actually brings me to one last question, if you don't mind... Why is it for example that mozilla-mplayer appears in the list of packages of Synaptic, but not in the "Add/Remove Software" interface?
[12:47] <sykes> So I have to wait for them to make a version for x64?
[12:47] <sykes> x86-64*
[12:48] <oskude> Aaron1: yes, linux doesnt care where your partitions are
[12:48] <Aaron1> k, thanks
[12:48] <Nem1> kryczek,where can i find GtkGnutella????
[12:48] <shriphani> Nem1, the repos
[12:48] <totall_6_7> oskude: unless the partition happens to be ntfs ;)
[12:48] <Nem1> what is the repos
[12:48] <mnepton> Kryczek: the Add/Remove does not reflect all entries in all repos.
[12:48] <shriphani> Nem1, the repositories
[12:49] <shriphani> !repos
[12:49] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[12:49] <oskude> Kryczek: i think "Add/Remove Software" has only software that is officially supported by ubuntu
[12:49] <Kryczek> mnepton: yeah, I got that :) just wondering what entries it is reflecting then
[12:49] <Kryczek> ah ok
[12:49] <Aaron1> ive got the FAT32 so it can be a shared partition
[12:49] <Kryczek> oskude: the ones that have a small Ubuntu icon next to them in Synaptic ?
[12:49] <Nem1> spriphani, where are they?
[12:49] <shriphani> Nem1, why do you need them ?
[12:49] <Nem1> repos
[12:49] <oskude> Aaron1: yes, thats the most common way to share files with windows (but theres allso a ext2/3 driver for windows)
[12:50] <oskude> Kryczek: yeah, that could be it
[12:50] <shriphani> Nem1, sudo apt-get install gtk-gnutella
[12:50] <Nem1> thx
[12:50] <oskude> !ext3 > Aaron1
[12:52] <Aaron1> thanks oskude
[12:52] <Kryczek> lol, I just installed mozilla-mplayer as mnepton suggested, and it plays videos on cnn.com very well, except...
[12:52] <usuario> SUARIO
[12:52] <Kryczek> whenever a window covers all or part of the video
[12:52] <Kryczek> then this area remains gray
[12:52] <usuario> HELLO
[12:52] <mnepton> Kryczek: so then Don't Do That(tm) ;)
[12:52] <Kryczek> and if I switch to another virtual desktop and come back
[12:53] <usuario> HOLA
[12:53] <Kryczek> it's like if I covered it completely
[12:53] <Kryczek> so it's all gray
[12:53] <Kryczek> and I don't see the video anymore :/
[12:53] <Kryczek> mnepton: any idea? :)
[12:53] <capitalidea> oskude: Apparently, if firefox is already open, swiftfox just opens another window of firefox... - on the flip side of that, the swiftfox deb works flawlessly
[12:53] <mnepton> Kryczek: blame MS for not releasing the source to their codecs so that media players can actually wortk well with them
[12:53] <Kryczek> mnepton: well I don't think it has anything to do with the codecs
[12:54] <shriphani> capitalidea, this deb was not gotten from the deb repos ?
[12:54] <Kryczek> that works in Kubuntu with the kmplayer :/
[12:54] <capitalidea> I have a suspicion that this is because Firefox looks for open copies of itself to reduce memory usage
[12:54] <mnepton> Kryczek: it has to to with MPlayer's use of the framebuffer while using that codec, though
[12:54] <capitalidea> shriphani: I thought I said that I got it off the swiftfox home page, yes, it was not from the repos.
[12:54] <mnepton> j2dope: wb
[12:54] <omar>  hello guys, I am trying to munt a folder from a windows machine with this command : sudo mount -t cifs //<IP_ADDRESS>/Nuevas ~/Lap -o urd=omar , but I get and error : mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on //<IP_ADDRESS>/Nuevas, whats wrong with it
[12:54] <shriphani> capitalidea, then it should work on ubuntu
[12:54] <j2dope> WPA works with network-manager-gnome, thanks mnepton :)
[12:54] <capitalidea> shriphani: It is :-)
[12:55] <mnepton> j2dope: np. glad you have it working.
[12:55] <j2dope> now im completely wireless, bar the power cable and all this USB shite ;)
[12:55] <sykes> Can anyone name a good e-mail client for ubuntu? (which I can choose from add/remove programs) (except thunderbirg) please
[12:55] <j2dope> evolution?
[12:55] <shriphani> then what were you not convinced with earlier ?
[12:55] <Kryczek> mnepton: ok, if you say so... thanks for the help already :)
[12:55] <sykes> Tried it, but I need to change POP and SMTP port, cant find out how to do it though
[12:56] <sykes> Using gmail..
[12:56] <mnepton> Kryczek: i live to serve the Ubuntu community :)
[12:56] <sykes> Oh yeah, anyone want a gmail invitation btw? I got 45 left
[12:56] <mnepton> (oh, and to watch Oprah. she's dreeeeeeamy.)
[12:56] <capitalidea> shriphani: oskude submits that .debs are not for ubuntu and are magically not compatible, at all. that was the point I was doubting. (I could see why this isn't true all the time though)
[12:56] <LSD`> j2dope: power would be wireless too if the nikola tesla had had his way. Unfortunately sending power wirelssy begged the question of where would the metre (and thus the way to charge for it) would go and go got shot down
[12:57] <shriphani> capitalidea, if these debs come from the debian servers no they are not
[12:57] <UB_> omar may be you mean UID and not URD
[12:57] <j2dope> anyone know why my /etc/resolv.conf keeps 'reseting' itself? usually after every reboot...
[12:57] <shriphani> not many debs that are offered work too
[12:57] <normeo> Ekushey: was just wondering if someone could help me with a problem booting the installcd
[12:57] <mnepton> j2dope: by design
[12:57] <normeo> damn nick complete!!
[12:57] <mnepton> j2dope: your DHCP server is assigning DNS servers
[12:57] <normeo> *hey*
[12:58] <sykes^> How do I change ports for POP & SMTP in Evolution?
[12:58] <lansing> hey avagant i reinstalled my op and i need a lil help on wat to typ  in the terminal to install java
[12:58] <capitalidea> What is happening ( I think ) is that swiftfox looks just like a running firefox so when either of them start up they both look for a running instance of firefox and then tell that instance to open a new window.
[12:58] <j2dope> yeah.. for some reason DHCP works fiiiine on windows.. on linux, it wont work unless I manually type in my DNS server...
[12:58] <omar> UB_ same thing
[12:58] <lansing> i dont under stand the forums
[12:58] <j2dope> mnepton: so what u mean 'by design'?
[12:59] <shriphani> j2dope, maybe you havent told the box that its dhcp
[12:59] <UB_> omar do you wanna mount it via samba?
[12:59] <shriphani> yawn
[12:59] <shriphani> oops
[12:59] <j2dope> shriphani: the networking tool (under administration) *is* set to DHCP. but as said, it won't get me online unless i manually set the DNS server
[12:59] <j2dope> under windows DHCP works fine
[12:59] <UB_> so use -t smbfs but before check you have installed the package smbfs
[01:00] <oskude> capitalidea: then things is, debian (may) have different versions of librarys on what a program depends.
[01:00] <normeo> when i try to boot the install cd i get a problem it hangs on "loading kernel"
[01:00] <normeo> does anyone know of any problems that cause this?
[01:01] <oskude> capitalidea: thats the same case why you (mostly) cant even install dapper debs on breezy
[01:01] <yapi_> hi
[01:02] <yapi_> i had to run fsck manualy, after that, i managed to bootup linux kernel, until it says: waiting for the root... ... and drops me into initramfs busybox, saying something cannot find /dev/hda1?! that's / btw. i've tried ubuntu live, and it has all devices in /dev but they r wiped out on boot... what can i do?
[01:02] <oskude> capitalidea: and lets say a program depends on package foo12 on debian, but on ubuntu its called foo12-ubuntu1, how is that gonna work ?
[01:05] <normeo> any help?
[01:05] <lansing> i need help
[01:05] <oskude> normeo: did you check the md5sum of the downloaded image (if you downloaded it) ? did you use the "check cd" option on the cd at boot ?
[01:06] <normeo> the cd check option doesn't work either, still brings up the same message for loading kernel and hangs
[01:06] <oskude> normeo: if the check cd doesnt say ok, please check the md5sum of the image you downloaded
[01:07] <lansing> is there anyone out there that is kind enough to help out some one that dont know a dam thing about ubuntu
[01:07] <capitalidea> oskude:ofcourse that wouldn't work. this binary works dandy though. (yeah, it's a special case)
[01:07] <oskude> !ask > lansing
[01:07] <oskude> capitalidea: and you have to update that package manually...
[01:08] <lansing> i have several time and no one will
[01:08] <oskude> lansing: then wait a while and ask again...
[01:08] <lansing> k
[01:09] <oskude> !rules
[01:09] <ubotu> The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[01:09] <oskude> tip: when noone is saysing anything, that could be a good time to repeat your question ;)
[01:09] <lansing> ok
[01:10] <cpk2> i was about to tell lansing that unfortunately i cant read minds =P
[01:10] <lansing> i have java on my computer but i dont know how to install it from the terminal
[01:10] <oskude> !away > Powerbook`Away
[01:10] <cpk2> lansing: you can install java from the repos
[01:11] <cpk2> lansing: sudo apt-get install sun-java5-bin
[01:11] <cpk2> i believe is the package name
[01:11] <lansing> if tryed that it says it cat find it
[01:11] <omar> thanks UB_
[01:11] <cpk2> !info sun-java5-bin
[01:11] <ubotu> sun-java5-bin: Sun Java(TM) Runtime Environment (JRE) 5.0. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.5.0-06-1 (dapper), package size 21625 kB, installed size 65608 kB
[01:11] <boink> apt-cache search java first
[01:12] <shriphani> lansing, ya dun have multiverse enabled
[01:12] <cpk2> lansing: is multiverse enabled?
[01:12] <boink> if you're installing java yourself, then just follow the documentation from Sun
[01:12] <lansing> how do i enable it
[01:12] <capitalidea> cpk2: he probably doesn't have more than the default repos
[01:12] <capitalidea> aha!
[01:13] <boink> did you get the file from Sun yourself?
[01:13] <oskude> !repos > lansing
[01:13] <lansing> i just reinstalled ubuntu breezy so its all default
[01:13] <boink> breezy? that's quite old
[01:13] <oskude> lansing: btw, is there a reason that you still use breezy ?
[01:13] <boink> you should first do an update to dapper
[01:13] <cpk2> lansing: well that depends on what makes you happy, you can do it via the gui in synaptics ( i have no clue how to use synaptics =P) or edit /etc/apt/sources.list
[01:14] <dakkar> I have to install Ubuntu on a Intel multi-Xeon server, that uses EFI, and has no CD drive. I can use a USB stick, but I have very little idea about hov to do it (elilo? how?)
[01:14] <lansing> ok wat do  i edit on sources.list
[01:14] <fyrestrtr> dakkar: your server has electronic fuel injection?
[01:15] <boink> change everything from breezy to dapper
[01:15] <dakkar> fyrestrtr: might be easier if it had ;-) EFI is the news BIOS
[01:15] <boink> you have good bandwidth? the upgrade will download a lot of stuff
[01:15] <capitalidea> dakkar: is it a Macintel?
[01:15] <lansing> ok but will dapper work for this version
[01:16] <boink> for what version?
[01:16] <dakkar> capitalidea: no, an Intel multi-Xeon server
[01:16] <lansing> breezy
[01:16] <binfalse> not sure
[01:16] <capitalidea> dakkar: wow, I had no idea Intel was using EFI yet
[01:16] <boink> breezy is an old version of ubuntu
[01:16] <boink> It was the second release, if I'm not mistakes
[01:16] <frtdx> hey guys .. pppoe help
[01:16] <boink> dapper is the current stable release
[01:16] <fyrestrtr> dakkar: so what's the problem?
[01:17] <frtdx> i use raspppoe in windows ... will the command "sudo pppoeconf" let me setup ppp through a NIC?
[01:17] <lansing> ok so wat should i do then ?
[01:17] <frtdx> as opposed to a modem?
[01:17] <fyrestrtr> !source-o-matic
[01:17] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[01:18] <oskude> !pppoe > frtdx
[01:18] <boink> but source-o-matic has many mistakes
[01:18] <boink> PLF doesn't exist anymore, for example
[01:18] <dakkar> fyrestrtr: I have no CD drive, and I don't know hav to make a Ubuntu installer into a USB stick that is EFI-bootable
[01:18] <frtdx> ty oskude
[01:19] <lansing> ok then wat should i do if it source o matic has alot of mistakes
[01:19] <boink> as I said, on your current sources.list, replace breezy with dapper
[01:19] <boink> that's all you need to do
[01:19] <oskude> lansing: report to seveas (or who did that tool)
[01:19] <boink> then upgrade your whole system first
[01:20] <frtdx> can someone recommend a good lightweight firewall for ubuntu
[01:20] <Arcainus> iptables ?
[01:20] <CromagDK> iptables ?
[01:20] <CromagDK> :D
[01:20] <cpk2> itables
[01:20] <cpk2> iptables*
[01:20] <cpk2> doh
[01:20] <cpk2> lol
[01:20] <HeathenDan> firestarter to config iptables
[01:20] <Arcainus> snap :)
[01:21] <oskude> !iptables > frtdx
[01:21] <Rookie_> !shorewall
[01:21] <ubotu> Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed with iptables (in the command line) or firestarter (gui, can also setup connection sharing)
[01:21] <fyrestrtr> dakkar: checked the installation wiki entry?
[01:21] <cpk2> but why bother configuring iptables
[01:21] <lansing> ok where can i get the latets version
[01:21] <boink> of what?
[01:21] <dakkar> fyrestrtr: no mention of EFI as far as I can see
[01:21] <frtdx> ty oskude
[01:21] <lansing> ubuntu as u said i have to upgrade
[01:22] <fyrestrtr> ask Intel support, as I doubt anyone here has any experience with EFI.