[05:29] <faxons> well I guess I'm asking if the packages on the new live CD are the same as what's availabe via apt-get and most importantly is the hardware detection the same?>
[05:29] <zazeem> i see nvidia screen
[05:29] <randabis> ?!? that's weird
[05:29] <zazeem> then i have to login again
[05:30] <zazeem> get it and try
[05:30] <zazeem> its free
[05:30] <zazeem> www.3dgamers.com
[05:30] <randabis> I've had it before and played it with ubuntu
[05:30] <zazeem> enemy territory
[05:30] <zazeem> wtf?
[05:30] <zazeem> damn:( i have terrible luck lol
[05:30] <randabis> that's why I don't understand why it would be logging you out
[05:30] <zazeem> ill install patch
[05:30] <randabis> what are you typing to run it?
[05:31] <zazeem> nothing
[05:31] <zazeem> clicking icon
[05:31] <zazeem> and hitting run
[05:31] <randabis> I think the command is "et" try typing that in a terminal
[05:31] <randabis> wtf
[05:32] <randabis> I've never seen enemy territory do that before
[05:32] <zazeem> did it again :'(
[05:32] <randabis> dude that's really weird
[05:32] <zazeem> lol
[05:32] <randabis> I've never seen enemy territory do that before
[05:32] <zazeem> figures
[05:32] <zazeem> i have a match in 30 mins too
[05:33] <zazeem> what do i type
[05:33] <zazeem> ... sh
[05:33] <zazeem> pog sh?
[05:33] <zazeem> forgot first word
[05:34] <randabis> what are you trying to do?
[05:34] <zazeem> install et patch
[05:34] <randabis> sudo is the first word
[05:34] <snowblink> any idea how to get firefox to open an html file over a samba share?
[05:34] <randabis> sudo sh whatever.sh
[05:35] <randabis> hmm
[05:35] <randabis> snowblink maybe File --> open file
[05:35] <zazeem> omg
[05:36] <zazeem> again
[05:36] <randabis> then point it to where the file is
[05:36] <zazeem> why!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[05:36] <randabis> I don't know man, that's the weirdest crap I ever seen
[05:36] <zazeem> how did u install it?
[05:36] <zazeem> do u have an nvidia card?
[05:36] <zazeem> i have fx5200
[05:36] <randabis> yes
[05:36] <randabis> I have fx5900
[05:36] <zazeem> is it a module or something
[05:37] <zazeem> i missed?
[05:37] <randabis> it's the module you already installed
[05:37] <snowblink> randabis: samba shares don't show up like that
[05:37] <zazeem> ?
[05:37] <randabis> if the nvidia logo pops up for you, then you're running the nvidia driver
[05:37] <randabis> to test, open a terminal and type glxgears
[05:38] <zazeem> i c them
[05:38] <randabis> what are the framerates?
[05:38] <zazeem> dunno?
[05:38] <randabis> it should say in the terminal
[05:38] <zazeem> 8193 frames in 5.0 seconds = 1638.600 FPS
[05:38] <zazeem> 5470 frames in 5.0 seconds = 1094.000 FPS
[05:38] <zazeem> 5052 frames in 5.0 seconds = 1010.400 FPS
[05:38] <zazeem> 4956 frames in 5.0 seconds = 991.200 FPS
[05:38] <zazeem> 8962 frames in 5.0 seconds = 1792.400 FPS
[05:38] <zazeem> 7533 frames in 5.0 seconds = 1506.600 FPS
[05:38] <zazeem> 5118 frames in 5.0 seconds = 1023.600 FPS
[05:38] <randabis> okay
[05:38] <zazeem> 8193 frames in 5.0 seconds = 1638.600 FPS
[05:38] <zazeem> 5470 frames in 5.0 seconds = 1094.000 FPS
[05:38] <zazeem> 5052 frames in 5.0 seconds = 1010.400 FPS
[05:38] <zazeem> 4956 frames in 5.0 seconds = 991.200 FPS
[05:38] <zazeem> 8962 frames in 5.0 seconds = 1792.400 FPS
[05:38] <zazeem> 7533 frames in 5.0 seconds = 1506.600 FPS
[05:38] <zazeem> 5118 frames in 5.0 seconds = 1023.600 FPS
[05:38] <zazeem> 4724 frames in 5.0 seconds = 944.800 FPS
[05:39] <zazeem> 4945 frames in 5.0 seconds = 989.000 FPS
[05:39] <randabis> that's enough jeez
[05:39] <zazeem> that good?
[05:39] <zazeem> lol
[05:39] <randabis> it's fine...your video card just sucks lol
[05:39] <zazeem> :(
[05:39] <FLeiXiuS> zazeem: for your stupidity you should be killed..
[05:39] <randabis> I get over 5000
[05:39] <zazeem> wtf
[05:39] <zazeem> well it should ru et still right
[05:39] <FLeiXiuS> zazeem: please don't flood*
[05:39] <zazeem> k
[05:39] <FLeiXiuS> and zazeem, which graphics card do you have?
[05:40] <zazeem> geforce fx 5200
[05:40] <randabis> he said fx5200
[05:40] <zazeem> 128mb ddr
[05:40] <randabis> for some WEIRD reason, every time he trys to start enemy territory, he is logged out and the xserver is restarted
[05:41] <zazeem> whos fleixius?
[05:41] <FLeiXiuS> randabis: sounds to me like the resolution / sync rates...
[05:41] <zazeem> ?
[05:41] <randabis> could be
[05:41] <zazeem> ya it switches res
[05:41] <zazeem> like gets big
[05:41] <zazeem> then
[05:41] <zazeem> poof
[05:41] <zazeem> see blak console for 2 sec then nvidia screen then login
[05:41] <FLeiXiuS> zazeem: if possible set the game to run at the same exact resolution as your desktop..
[05:41] <zazeem> k how?
[05:41] <zazeem> cant get in it
[05:41] <FLeiXiuS> zazeem: your the player, tell me
[05:42] <zazeem> lol
[05:42] <eyequeue> zazeem, lay off the enter key please
[05:42] <zazeem> sorry
[05:42] <FLeiXiuS> zazeem: they make a spectacular search engine .. called .. "google"
[05:42] <randabis> I'd check some enemy territory sites or rtfm
[05:42] <randabis> dunno
[05:42] <cowbud> what is the best mp3 tag organizer of doom?
[05:42] <FLeiXiuS> randabis: definately rtfm.  All games come with configuration files / parameters for command line.
[05:43] <zazeem> i cant find where et is installed to
[05:43] <randabis> it's probably /usr/local/games
[05:44] <FLeiXiuS> zazeem: Was it a linux installer or, wine?
[05:44] <randabis> so FLeiXiuS, did you ever get that weird problem with your hard drive sorted out on the install cds?
[05:44] <randabis> it was native linux
[05:44] <bigtony> where bout can i get ndiswrapper for ubuntu i tried apt-get install ndiswrapper andn othing
[05:45] <randabis> ubuntu already comes with ndiswrapper
[05:45] <FLeiXiuS> randabis: Sure did, I zero'ed the entire drive, and it flushed the partition tables..worked fluently
[05:45] <randabis> you just have to set it up
[05:45] <randabis> FLeiXiuS, that's good...that was definitely trixy
[05:45] <FLeiXiuS> randabis: very, first time I've encountered that sort of error.
[05:45] <randabis> bigtony, sudo apt-get install ndiswrapper-utils
[05:45] <zazeem> how do i change my resolution? ill tr to match it to what it changes to
[05:46] <bigtony> ok thanks
[05:46] <crimsun> zazeem: xrandr
[05:46] <zazeem> ?
[05:46] <FLeiXiuS> zazeem: search more, ask less
[05:46] <randabis> lol
[05:48] <randabis> he'll be back...his xserver restarted again lol
[05:50] <zazeem> any way to reset packets installed in synaptic to defaults?
[05:52] <snowblink> hmmm. I think this has something to do with gnomevfs
[05:53] <bigtony> randabis do you use ndiswrapper?
[05:54] <bigtony> i have a real noob question if you or anyone does i got this driver i think will work for my laptop wireless
[05:54] <bigtony> and i made the ndiwrapper -i <inffile> and all can't i port that file to the lappy?
[05:56] <snowblink> bigtony: I thought you were supposed to run that all on the target box
[05:56] <bigtony> or is there a way i can put ndiswrapper-ultis on a floppy
[05:56] <bigtony> well i'm just trying with what i have :(
[05:56] <bigtony> lappy has no internet connection
[05:57] <bigtony> so i'm out of ideas :(
[05:57] <snowblink> bigtony: ndiswrapper-utils isn't on the CD?
[05:57] <bigtony> i don't think so it might be honestly how do i check sorry :(
[05:58] <snowblink> bigtony: open synaptic, and re-enable the cdrom option
[05:58] <bigtony> ok
[05:58] <snowblink> bigtony: actually make sure that's the only one enabled
[05:58] <snowblink> bigtony: then refresh
[05:58] <snowblink> bigtony: then search for ndis
[05:59] <bigtony> well i see it in there
[05:59] <bigtony> ndiswrapper-source 0.12.1
[05:59] <bigtony> uninstall that ?
[05:59] <snowblink> did you install that?
[05:59] <bigtony> yeah froma  deb
[06:00] <bigtony> you say from the cd right
[06:00] <snowblink> well just because you can't get a net connection on your laptop
[06:00] <bigtony> i havne't really used gnome i was using the shell on flux so i'm new
[06:00] <snowblink> ah
[06:00] <snowblink> well you can do this command line
[06:00] <snowblink> using apt
[06:01] <bigtony> ok but let me get the cd hang on and thanks
[06:01] <bigtony> ok i have the cd
[06:01] <snowblink> put it in the laptop
[06:01] <snowblink> you okay with vi?
[06:02] <bigtony> not my best i use gedit
[06:02] <bigtony> or pico
[06:02] <bigtony> but whatever works
[06:02] <snowblink> sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[06:02] <snowblink> uncomment the line beginning deb cdrom
[06:02] <bigtony> ok
[06:03] <bigtony> it wasn't commented
[06:03] <snowblink> comment the rest (add a hash to the beginning)
[06:03] <snowblink> if it's new, it will probably be like that already
[06:03] <bigtony> yeah brand new install
[06:03] <snowblink> okay you can get out of there now
[06:03] <bigtony> i haven't modifed it with testing and universe and all yet
[06:03] <snowblink> sudo apt-cache search ndis
[06:04] <snowblink> any luck?
[06:04] <bigtony> let me look
[06:04] <bigtony> nope
[06:04] <bigtony> it works fine on the desktop cause i installed ndis..utils
[06:05] <bigtony> thats why i was wondering if i could port it over
[06:05] <snowblink> what you could do is install the deb for ubuntu
[06:05] <HyBRyD> alguien habla espaol
[06:05] <snowblink> HyBRyD: #ubuntu-es
[06:05] <bigtony> ok that would work
[06:05] <bigtony> you have a link for it?
[06:05] <bigtony> ill put it on a floppy
[06:05] <farruinn> bigtony: did you apt-get update before running apt-cache?
[06:05] <bigtony> and put it in the lappy
[06:06] <Soupster> I am attempting to enable windows networking in Warty, but when I click the checkbox in Network Settings I get a message that SMB support is not installed. Any ideas?
[06:06] <snowblink> yup
[06:06] <bigtony> ok well let me try that
[06:07] <farruinn> bigtony: changes to /etc/apt/sources.list don't take effect until you run 'sudo apt-get update'
[06:07] <bigtony> there was no changes made in it
[06:07] <farruinn> oh, I must have misunderstood what snowblink was telling you to do then
[06:07] <farruinn> nm then =)
[06:07] <bigtony> no he told me that
[06:07] <snowblink> ndiswrapper should maybe be included on the CD...
[06:07] <bigtony> but it was no need for a change
[06:08] <bigtony> i don't think it is
[06:08] <snowblink> yeah, but lots of people have this catch 22 situation
[06:08] <HyBRyD> espaol
[06:08] <HyBRyD> alguien
[06:09] <snowblink> HyBRyD: probaste #ubuntu-es?
[06:09] <HyBRyD> jajajaja no lo vi
[06:09] <bigtony> you have the url for the deb please?
[06:10] <HyBRyD> no existe
[06:10] <syn-ack> HyBRyD: You are the first member then.
[06:10] <snowblink> http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/n/ndiswrapper/
[06:10] <HyBRyD> no hay canales en espaol por aca
[06:11] <bigtony> thank you i hope this works
[06:11] <snowblink> #ubuntu-es looks a little empty at the moment...
[06:12] <bigtony> which one?
[06:12] <bigtony> the orc one ?
[06:12] <bigtony> as in 12. or 10?
[06:12] <snowblink>  ndiswrapper-utils_0.10-1_i386.deb
[06:12] <snowblink> you're on warty right?
[06:12] <bigtony> yes
[06:12] <bigtony> ok let me try thanks
[06:12] <randabis> Soupster, you need to install samba, samba-common, and smbfs
[06:13] <bigtony> then do a sudo dpkg -i <packagename> on the lappy right?
[06:13] <snowblink> yup
[06:14] <ironwolf_> haggai: one more time, how do I build OOo with java?  I got apt-get source openoffice.org ... I couldn't find the .deb from Debian with Java.
[06:14] <bigtony> ok trying now
[06:14] <bigtony> one more thing do i need anyting other than the inf file like a sys file or what?
[06:15] <bigtony> all the stuff from dell in regard to that driver is too big for a floppy
[06:15] <snowblink> compressed?
[06:15] <bigtony> no i need to compress it
[06:15] <bigtony> let me see if i can get ndiswrapper installed first
[06:16] <bigtony> brb
[06:17] <Soupster> randabis - thanks, I thought they were installed, but now i look more closely I can see they're not all
[06:19] <snowblink> HyBRyD: Tiene una pregunta? Habla ingles?
[06:20] <HyBRyD> i speak a litle bit english
[06:21] <crimsun> (there is a #ubuntu-es, too)
[06:21] <snowblink> crimsun: pretty empty
[06:21] <crimsun> gar, well that does little good then.
[06:23] <bigtony> hell: this thing will not write to the floppy
[06:23] <bigtony> it shows 0 bytes
[06:24] <snowblink> bigtony: do you have an ethernet port on your laptop?
[06:24] <bigtony> yeah
[06:24] <bigtony> but i can't get it to work either
[06:24] <bigtony> bcm4401
[06:24] <snowblink> bigtony: would recommend getting that sorted first
[06:24] <bigtony> been trying all night on it
[06:24] <bigtony> well if you are willing to help i'm willing ot listn
[06:24] <snowblink> bigtony: give it a shot
[06:24] <bigtony> ok
[06:25] <snowblink> bigtony: can your system see the card?
[06:25] <bigtony> with lspci
[06:25] <bigtony> yes
[06:25] <digress> what is the default admin password for ubuntu?
[06:25] <snowblink> digress: root password not set by default
[06:25] <FLeiXiuS> digress: there is no default.
[06:25] <farruinn> digress: use sudo and your normal user password
[06:25] <snowblink> bigtony: ifconfig -a shows the card?
[06:26] <bigtony> i thin so let me lok
[06:26] <digress> farruinn, thanks a lot
[06:26] <bigtony> yeah
[06:26] <bigtony> i see eth0
[06:26] <bigtony> but no internet address
[06:26] <bigtony> i can't get it to dhcp it
[06:26] <farruinn> digress: np, check out http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo for more =)
[06:26] <snowblink> bigtony: just to check, is there a cable attached to something?
[06:27] <bigtony> well right now the cable is connected to this computer
[06:27] <bigtony> i dont' have a extra cable or id hook them both to the router
[06:27] <bigtony> :(
[06:27] <snowblink> bigtony: is it a cross over cable?
[06:27] <bigtony> its a straight
[06:27] <snowblink> bigtony: won't work then
[06:27] <bigtony> crossover to what?
[06:27] <bigtony> i have a crossover
[06:28] <snowblink> bigtony: ah get that
[06:28] <bigtony> if thats what your asking
[06:28] <snowblink> bigtony: plug it in
[06:28] <bigtony> and samba?
[06:28] <snowblink> bigtony: samba?
[06:28] <bigtony> just trying to figure out what your trying to do
[06:28] <bigtony> but go ahead
[06:28] <bigtony> crosserver the lappty to the desktop?
[06:29] <snowblink> bigtony: crossover cable if you're connecting desktop to laptop directly (no hub)
[06:29] <bigtony> i understand
[06:29] <bigtony> i was jsut wondering why you wanted the crossover
[06:29] <bigtony> but then id have to setup internet sharing and all
[06:30] <snowblink> bigtony: oh no, we're just going to transfer files from your desktop to your laptop
[06:30] <bigtony> ok
[06:30] <snowblink> bigtony: to get your wireless working
[06:30] <bigtony> ok sounds great
[06:30] <bigtony> i have the crossover
[06:30] <snowblink> bigtony: presumably then you can access internet via that
[06:30] <geppy> I'm looking for a Linux CLI application that can do downsampling and compression of music files.  It would be used in developing a sound effects library, for the purpose of making available lower-quality samples of the music files.
[06:30] <bigtony> yes the desktop i can
[06:30] <bigtony> thats what i'm talking to you on
[06:30] <bigtony> i have ubuntu on it
[06:30] <bigtony> and have used samba to the lappy
[06:31] <bigtony> but it was when it had winders
[06:31] <snowblink> bigtony: connect the crossover cable from laptop to desktop
[06:31] <bigtony> so i ditched windows on the lappy and here i am :)
[06:31] <snowblink> bigtony: good/brave/foolish - pick one. ;)
[06:31] <bigtony> done
[06:31] <bigtony> i thin its good
[06:31] <bigtony> i like ubuntu
[06:31] <bigtony> just wish i was more advanced in linux to get it working like i want
[06:32] <bigtony> tahts why i went to the shell so i figured if learned the shell first the gui would be easy
[06:32] <bigtony> just my thought
[06:32] <bigtony> anyway crossover is installed
[06:32] <dr_willis> the gui is easy :P
[06:32] <dr_willis> the shell is easy :p
[06:32] <dr_willis> Life is good.
[06:34] <HyBRyD> hey snowbling
[06:35] <Stew2> Anyone have a good link to Setting up Shorewall?
[06:35] <snowblink> HyBRyD: buenas
[06:35] <HyBRyD> no te sabes un canal en espaol
[06:35] <snowblink> HyBRyD: si, pero no hay gente ahora por alla
[06:36] <HyBRyD> pasalo para tenerlo en mente
[06:42] <chutwig> friends
[06:42] <chutwig> please to help resolve an issue that seems to be caused by the HAL service starting and locking the system
[06:44] <tritium> testing the LiveCD with qemu is sort of fun
[06:45] <rellik> anyone here use dual monitors?  I am trying to figure out how switch which monitor is my "default" one..  so when I put mplayer in "full screen" it goes to my LCD not my CRT
[06:45] <chutwig> it's weird as hell, though
[06:45] <chutwig> if i launch into recovery mode and load it then, it's fine
[06:45] <chutwig> but if i let it try to start on startup it freezes right when it gets to trying to start postfix
[06:45] <dr_willis> rellik,  thats in the XF86Config somewhere...
[06:46] <rellik> dr_willis, yeah that's where I'm stuck
[06:46] <dr_willis> ive had it working under mandrake in the past.. ages ago.
[06:46] <dr_willis> not tried lately.. my desk is too small now
[06:48] <chutwig> also, what's the debconf command to re-run x configuration?
[06:50] <farruinn> chutwig: I think you mean sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86
[06:50] <chutwig> thank you
[06:50] <farruinn> or xserver-xorg if you're using hoary
[06:50] <chutwig> not at the moment, but i think it would be in my best interests to update, seeing as warty does not agree with my computer
[06:50] <chutwig> at least, dbus does not
[06:52] <Zoap> Hi, I`ve just installed ubuntu wharty and need some help with root password
[06:53] <farruinn> Zoap: use sudo and your user password
[06:53] <farruinn> 'sudo [command] ' then enter your password when prompted
[06:53] <farruinn> see http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo for details
[06:54] <Zoap> farruinn: yeah, i know. but at installation i never got the option to input root password. it said that i would do so via sudo later...
[06:54] <Stew2> When I add a second hard drive to this ubuntu hoary system I'm running, what will it appear as?
[06:54] <farruinn> Zoap: check the wiki page
[06:55] <Zoap> ok, another q, farruinn: where is the gnome control panel? the debian menu?
[06:55] <Stew2> I have a user, /home/user, that I want to take their user folder and mount it on the second hard drive.
[06:55] <farruinn> Stew2: you'd just have to change your /etc/fstab to mount the new drive at /home/user
[06:56] <Stew2> I want to delete their home folder (moving it) to the second hard drive, and create a symlink in /home called 'user' pointing at the new drive.
[06:57] <Zoap> btw farruinn: i really love ubuntu, no messy programs, just the newest packages with no more, this is just great..
[06:57] <Stew2> What is the command to format/prep the drive?
[06:57] <farruinn> Zoap: yeah, I know what you mean =)
[06:58] <Stew2> I'm opening the box now to put the new disk in. As soon as the ubuntu shuts down.
[06:58] <Zoap> but farruinn: if i can bother you, i cant find the gnome control panel menu? and the debian menu? can you please help me with this before i run off to wiki?:)
[06:58] <farruinn> Zoap: the gnome control panels are in the Computer>Desktop Preferences menu... and I think there's a package you can install to get a debian menu
[06:59] <Zoap> ok, thanx:)
[06:59] <farruinn> I think its menu-xdg, but iirc that's only for hoary =(
[07:00] <farruinn> Stew2: I'm assuming that you're installing a second ide drive?
[07:01] <Zoap> dooh, <-- stupid... eh, you say computer>desktop prefrences menu.... where can i find that? i have no icons on desktop...
[07:01] <Zoap> <--- newbie, sorry..
[07:01] <farruinn> upper-left-hand-corner, next to applications menu
[07:02] <Zoap> thnx:) going now, <---00 even stupider, be back later:)
[07:04] <hypa7ia> HOARY ROCKS!  also, does anyone have an idea as to why my gnome-terms might not be colouring things properly?
[07:06] <defile> hypa7ia, properly?
[07:06] <defile> you mean ls output?
[07:06] <hypa7ia> well, at all, for starters
[07:07] <hypa7ia> yup
[07:07] <defile> what happens if you type 'ls -l --color=tty' ?
[07:07] <hypa7ia> ooohs neat
[07:08] <hypa7ia> that works
[07:08] <defile> cool
[07:08] <hypa7ia> my prompt isn't coloured either
[07:08] <mike_> anybody here has an idea how can i install xmms
[07:08] <defile> add an alias in your ~/.bashrc
[07:08] <zenrox> mike_,  sudo apt-get install xmms
[07:08] <hypa7ia> mike_: http://ubuntuguide.org
[07:08] <zenrox> that too
[07:09] <hypa7ia> mike_: need to add apt sources.... start with the guide :-)
[07:09] <hypa7ia> defile: thanks :-)
[07:09] <defile> hypa7ia, okay, now for the colorized prompt, there should be an option in your ~/.bashrc to uncomment a PS1 line to get a colorized prompt
[07:09] <hypa7ia> awesome
[07:09] <hypa7ia> i'll have a poke in that config
[07:09] <hypa7ia> thank you so much!
[07:10] <defile> not sure if it's in hoary, but if it is, make sure you comment out the non-colorized PS1 line
[07:10] <hypa7ia> it worked ootb in warty
[07:10] <hypa7ia> was just weirded out that it didn't in hoary
[07:11] <defile> if it's not there, let me know, I'll past the colorized PS1 from warty
[07:11] <hypa7ia> thanks :-)
[07:11] <defile> er paste
[07:11] <keldrum> Hey All, anyone aware of a an update for the evolution-exchange connector for ubuntu?
[07:12] <defile> hypa7ia, for your colorized ls, here is the alias you'd need
[07:12] <defile> alias ls='ls --color=auto'
[07:12] <hypa7ia> defile: it appears that i have no bashrc
[07:12] <hypa7ia> odd, that
[07:12] <defile> .bashrc
[07:12] <defile> in your home directory
[07:13] <hypa7ia> i know
[07:13] <defile> hmmm
[07:13] <hypa7ia> missing -_^
[07:13] <da_bon_bon> hey, does anyone have a proxy server setup on a local box ? i want to use it. my bloody isp spies on all i surf.. :((
[07:13] <hypa7ia> da_bon_bon: http://tor.eff.org
[07:14] <da_bon_bon> yes, but isnt a local box better ?
[07:14] <Zoap> farruinn: you there?
[07:14] <farruinn> Zoap: yep
[07:14] <hypa7ia> da_bon_bon: but TOR is way cool
[07:14] <melazyboy2> Oh you guys are talking about aliases
[07:14] <melazyboy2> I have the best one for you
[07:15] <melazyboy2> alias /bin/cat=foo
[07:15] <da_bon_bon> hypa7ia: but slows down my net too right ?
[07:15] <hypa7ia> da_bon_bon: my friend that uses it regularly says it's pretty fast
[07:15] <melazyboy2> In bash v.2.05b you can make that l33t alias like i did
[07:15] <da_bon_bon> hypa7ia: ok..
[07:16] <Zoap> good:) i went to wiki as you told me and followed the steps for creating root as usual unix "sudo passw root". but get message that password is incorrect. and im using my normal password as the wiki said.. any ideas farruinn?
[07:16] <Rattboi24> quick question
[07:16] <Rattboi24> will PPC ubuntu autofind the airport card?
[07:16] <mike_> i followede the instruction on multimedia install but i got a dependencies error
[07:17] <Rattboi24> I know airport exress isn't handled, but what about the older airport?
[07:17] <farruinn> Zoap: so you're entering your current user password first at the 'password:' prompt, right?
[07:17] <Zoap> farruinn: but i do get to go into the "Users and Groups" panel. So if you could give me a small hint about what to do i would apreciate it:) i tried to make a root account but got answer that it allready excisted..
[07:17] <Zoap> farruinn: yes
[07:18] <farruinn> Zoap: right, root exists, it's just disabled by default
[07:18] <Zoap> ok, how do i give it a passw then farruinn?
[07:18] <Zoap> or how do i enable it..
[07:18] <dr_willis> would you all say that -->  "ubuntu - borders on VERY paranoid when it comes to secuity"   or just "Slightly paranoid"
[07:18] <eyequeue> Zoap:  step one, as user, sudo passwd
[07:18] <Stew2> farruinn: yes. I've installed the second drive.
[07:18] <Zoap> ok
[07:19] <eyequeue> Zoap:  step two, give the user password
[07:19] <Stew2> farruinn: How do I format it in ubuntu?
[07:19] <eyequeue> Zoap:  step three, give and confirm the new root password
[07:19] <farruinn> Stew2: I think you want to use a partition tool such as parted
[07:19] <hypa7ia> YAY colour termy goodness
[07:19] <hypa7ia> thanks defile!
[07:19] <EvolutionR> anybody use pppoeconf b4?
[07:20] <Stew2> farruinn I'm ssh'd in.
[07:20] <Zoap> eyequeue: wooow, slow down, step two, how do i give the user password?
[07:20] <eyequeue> Zoap:  when it asks you for it, type it at the keyboard
[07:20] <Zoap> lol, ok, done that:O)
[07:21] <Stew2> farruinn: K. I've fired up parted.
[07:21] <farruinn> Stew2: the new drive is ide set to slave?
[07:21] <Stew2> farruinn Yes, slave on the second bus.
[07:21] <Stew2> farruinn The primary bus has one master drive, that's all.
[07:21] <EvolutionR> my wastebin contains a file called abc.txt lock only root, but when I try to delete it / empty it on tash the file disappear?
[07:21] <defile> hypa7ia, no problem
[07:21] <Zoap> eyequeue and farruinn: thnx, that solved it:)
[07:21] <Stew2> farruinn I'm at the parted prompt. I typed 'select' but I don't know the name of the second /dev
[07:21] <farruinn> Stew2: ok, so just create one ext3 partition on /dev/hdd
[07:22] <eyequeue> Zoap:  now you have satisfied sudo ... next you give input to the passwd program
[07:22] <Zoap> eyequeue: eeh, ok.. how?
[07:22] <rellik> in which file should I put aliases?  ~/.bash_profile ?
[07:22] <farruinn> Stew2: as long as you're sure it's slave on the secondary ide bus
[07:23] <ironwolf> rellik: mine are in ~/.bashrc
[07:23] <eyequeue> Zoap:  you're now running "as" root via sudo, so when it asks you to set a password for root, you do so, again via the keyboard
[07:23] <Zoap> ok, done that:)
[07:23] <EvolutionR> How come sometimes when I point to a file/folder with a lock icon, it will disappear. How to make them appear again?
[07:23] <Zoap> eyequeue: another q, if i may: what is the easiest way to configure alsa?
[07:23] <farruinn> Zoap: if you've gone through the "Enter UNIX password:" etc you're done
[07:23] <whiprush> you don't need to set a root password, just use sudo -s to get a rool shell.
[07:24] <Zoap> ok
[07:24] <EvolutionR> can someone help me here?
[07:24] <eyequeue> Zoap:  if i could get my sound working here, i might be a better person to ask :( as it is ,i don't feel competent in sound questions
[07:24] <Stew2> farruinn Yup.
[07:25] <Zoap> but isnt there any control panel for it? ive used alsa in LibraNet with no problems(ESS18XX)
[07:25] <Stew2> farruinn: Is there an interface for parted?
[07:25] <Stew2> farruinn SOmething friendly'er
[07:25] <eyequeue> Zoap:  thee may well be, but as i said, i have no sound here, so can't say
[07:25] <Zoap> But LibraNet has the xadminmenu, which i like
[07:25] <Zoap> hehe, ok, thnx anyway:)
[07:25] <Stew2> farruinn: What's the interface I used when I was setting up ubuntu?
[07:25] <rellik> ironwolf, k, thanks...  what's the difference between things to put in bashrc and bash_profile?
[07:25] <Zoap> ill just pop into #alsa and ask them:)
[07:26] <ironwolf> Stew2: QTparted may be what your looking for.
[07:26] <Zoap> thanx for the help:)
[07:26] <Stew2> ironwolf
[07:26] <farruinn> Stew2: apropos partition will give you a bunch of options, tbh though I thought that parted was the partitioner used by ubuntu installer
[07:26] <keldrum> Anyone having trouble connecting to an exchange 2003 srv using evolution?
[07:26] <keldrum> I get a "cannot connect to backend process" error
[07:26] <Stew2> farruinn: Yeah, mabye parted -was- used. However, it didn't have this interface. It was nice and friendly at the time.
[07:27] <Stew2> farruinn Is ironwolf right? Is there a program I install with synaptic to get this puppy rolling?
[07:27] <keldrum> I thin it has to do with the connector but haven't been able to update it. What can I do to get it working?
[07:27] <farruinn> Stew2: yup, qtparted should be good
[07:28] <farruinn> is there no gnome partitioner?
[07:28] <defile> Stew2, .bash_profile is read when the login shell is interactive, .bashrc is read regardless
[07:30] <keldrum> #evolution
[07:31] <bitfoo> wtf is gdesklets :|
[07:32] <Dreamer3> i wish i knew for sure
[07:35] <snowblink> bitfoo: things which sit on your desktop and tell you the weather in Brazil
[07:35] <Stew2> Yo peoples. How do I add stuff to my menu? So far, I've installed bluefish and qtparted, but they don't show up in the GNOME menu.
[07:35] <EvolutionR> Do anyone experience this, point to the file then it disappear from view?
[07:35] <Stew2> bitfoo: Or sweden. Where I'll be soon.
[07:36] <snowblink> snowblink: or how much disk space you have left
[07:36] <Stew2> bitfoo: Or other stuff.
[07:36] <snowblink> snowblink: install it - you'll love it
[07:36] <Stew2> bitfoo: Drink the Koolaid.
[07:37] <farruinn> Stew2: have you logged out since installing those things? sometimes they don't show up until you do
[07:37] <bitfoo> hmm
[07:37] <bitfoo> they dont work
[07:37] <bitfoo> their help file is useless
[07:37] <Stew2> farruinn Definitely with bluefish.
[07:37] <hypa7ia> Stew2: http://ubunguguide.org ... it's in there
[07:37] <Stew2> Farruinn that was installed a couple of days ago. I've logged out, and restarted, etc.
[07:37] <snowblink> bitfoo: you run one first, then add .displays
[07:37] <Stew2> hypa7ia Awww. Does it work for hoary too?
[07:37] <hypa7ia> yup
[07:38] <hypa7ia> :-)
[07:38] <bitfoo> i apt-got but nada ;|
[07:38] <bitfoo> help file = useless
[07:38] <bitfoo> non existent
[07:38] <bitfoo> they dont even tell you how to run one :|
[07:38] <Seamus> Hey guys -- got a question.  I'm running ubuntu on my dell inspiron 600m laptop, everything works great so far, except for the fact that I can't hot-swap out of my cd-rom drive without a kernel panic
[07:39] <nevyn> Seamus: I don't know if linux supports hot-swap IDE
[07:39] <snowblink> bitfoo: apt-cache search gdesklet
[07:39] <bitfoo> i have it installed
[07:40] <snowblink> bitfoo: check your applications menu
[07:40] <bitfoo> i have it instaleld
[07:40] <bitfoo> i can run it
[07:40] <bitfoo> nothing happens :|
[07:40] <Stew2> hypa7ia nautilus applications-all-users:/// is not a valid location.
[07:40] <bitfoo> the help file is non existent :|
[07:40] <nevyn> Seamus: and if it did you'd need to do something before pulling out the device.
[07:40] <Stew2> hypa7ia I'm reading the guide.
[07:40] <snowblink> bitfoo: you have to add displays
[07:40] <Seamus> nevyn: So there's no kernel option for it?
[07:40] <eyequeue> Seamus:  livecd or installed version?
[07:41] <Stew2> hypa7ia Any other ideas?
[07:41] <Seamus> eyequeue installed version
[07:41] <Stew2> hypa7ia Nautilus is up, running as root.
[07:41] <snowblink> bitfoo: are you on warty or hoary?
[07:41] <nevyn> eyequeue: hrm good point.. pulling the cd on the livecd would be bad news.
[07:41] <eyequeue> Seamus:  do you pwehaps need to umount the cd first? just guessing here
[07:41] <bitfoo> hoary
[07:41] <Seamus> eyequeue:  No cd, it's not mounted to begin with
[07:41] <eyequeue> nevyn:  yeah, heh
[07:42] <Stew2> Anyone know how to edit menus on ubuntu hoary? I've read the guide at ubuntuguide.org and it was wrong.
[07:42] <eyequeue> Seamus:  okay, i'm of no help to you then, sorry
[07:42] <froust> have any updates to the ati drivers been made lately?
[07:42] <konfoo> seamus did you check all your system logs
[07:42] <nevyn> but the real question is how do you tell it to do stuff like turn off the drive power and that. prior to removing the device.
[07:42] <EvolutionR> Do the Ubuntu provide Java runtime on the fresh installation?
[07:43] <nevyn> because you now need to re-scan the ide channel.. something that apparently works with stuff like hotswap IDE bays and that. but I don't know
[07:43] <konfoo> just download the jre, put it in a dir, add the path, and link the plugin to your browser
[07:43] <konfoo> 2 mins work
[07:43] <nevyn> EvolutionR: I don't think so.
[07:43] <snowblink> bitfoo: hmmm I'm on warty - probably newer version
[07:43] <Seamus> konfoo:  I haven't checked my logs.  Which file would the kernel dump to?
[07:43] <Stew2> evolutionR I guess that means no.
[07:43] <hypa7ia> Stew2: sorry, i thought it was the same as in warty, but i was wrong... dont' know what else to tell ya and i'm off to bed - so good luck :-)
[07:43] <bitfoo> Traceback (most recent call last):
[07:43] <bitfoo>   File "/usr/lib/gdesklets/factory/SensorFactory.py", line 42, in create_sensor
[07:43] <bitfoo>     os.chdir(p)
[07:43] <bitfoo> OSError: [Errno 2]  No such file or directory: '/usr/lib/gdesklets/../../share/gdesklets/Sensors'
[07:44] <bitfoo> wierd :|
[07:44] <konfoo> Seamus: /var/log/messages for starters
[07:44] <Stew2> hypa7ia thanks
[07:44] <EvolutionR> I'm on Hoary. I would like to have Java runtime 1.5 install? How do I get that by apt-get install java?
[07:44] <snowblink> bitfoo: on warty there were 2 files to install for gdesklets
[07:44] <snowblink> bitfoo: gdesklets-data
[07:44] <konfoo> Seamus: also kern.log, etc
[07:44] <snowblink> bitfoo: gdesklets
[07:45] <nevyn> EvolutionR: apt-get install java-package then download the .bin file. make the deb dpkg -i j2sdk1.5-blah.deb
[07:45] <Seamus> konfoo: are you sure it's set to dump by default?
[07:45] <konfoo> determine what kind of a interface your device has (it may not necessarily be straight ide), then step through mounting it, unmounting it, checking device manager, until you get the kpanic
[07:46] <konfoo> Seamus: i dunno, its your system, you tell me :)
[07:46] <melazyboy2> hey can someone tell me if this fails for them too, playing around with dd, 'dd if=/dev/zero of=./delme bs=1MB count=30' that should yield a 30MB file however it only yeilds a 20MB file
[07:46] <Seamus> konfoo: heh it's a straight out ouf the box ubuntu install ;)
[07:46] <snowblink> bitfoo: did you install both?
[07:46] <froust> can anyone recommend some really addictive games?
[07:47] <konfoo> froust: irc
[07:47] <chibif1> Addictive? World of Warcraft :P
[07:47] <dr_willis> chibif1,  been playing that also. :P
[07:47] <dr_willis> they got just the right mix of game play and depth and not too hard.. yet very chalangeing in places
[07:48] <snowblink> froust: frozen bubble
[07:48] <dr_willis> xmame  - for  the arcade classics
[07:48] <eyequeue> froust:  /usr/bin/atc
[07:48] <chibif1> xD
[07:48] <dr_willis> "rocks and diampnds"  - gotta love the boulderdash games.
[07:48] <chibif1> rogue :D
[07:48] <dr_willis> diamonds
[07:48] <eyequeue> atc (6)              - air traffic controller game
[07:48] <chibif1> rogue/nethack used to be all I ever played. :D
[07:48] <dr_willis> Frozen bubble is just seems TOO easy
[07:49] <snowblink> froust: nethack
[07:49] <konfoo> melazyboy2: 30000000 bytes transferred in 0.184461 seconds (162636078 bytes/sec)
[07:49] <snowblink> dr_willis: what level do you find hard?
[07:49] <froust> what kind of games are they?
[07:49] <dr_willis> in what snowblink ?
[07:50] <snowblink> dr_willis: frozen bubble
[07:50] <Seamus> konfoo: the kernel dumped to /var/log/messages.  it gave a bunch of status errors, reset ATAPI a couple times, and then eventually restarted.
[07:50] <dr_willis> snowblink,  i said Frozen bubble is not hard enough :P
[07:50] <EvolutionR> nevyn: is there any repos for the j2se 5.0 ?
[07:50] <dr_willis> snowblink,  thers several similer games out under MAME - that seem more of a challange and interesting.
[07:50] <Seamus> konfoo:  I've done this twice.  Booting up with the hot-swappable cd-rom drive and then attempting to remove it shortly after boot...
[07:51] <konfoo> melazyboy2: also, use 1024k, not 1MB
[07:51] <nevyn> EvolutionR: NO but using make-jpkg is pretty easy really
[07:51] <dr_willis> well night all
[07:51] <melazyboy2> konfoo: now run du -s on it.
[07:51] <melazyboy2> konfoo: I would rather use 1MB
[07:51] <konfoo>  30M 2005-01-28 22:50 test1
[07:51] <nevyn> EvolutionR: nobody can re-distribute java. it's a real pain in the neck.
[07:51] <melazyboy2> err du -h
[07:51] <b_e_n_z> nevyn, says who?
[07:51] <melazyboy2> mine shows 29mb when i run du -h
[07:51] <snowblink> froust: gnometris
[07:51] <EvolutionR> nevyn: u mean go to java website, download the bin file then dpkg to .deb ?
[07:51] <konfoo> yeah cause you used 1MB
[07:51] <nevyn> b_e_n_z: sun the licence...
[07:52] <konfoo> which is a human readable 29M
[07:52] <nevyn> b_e_n_z: ok SOME people can re-distribute java.
[07:52] <Stew2> Anyone know how to edit the GNOME menu with Nautilus?
[07:52] <syn-ack> EvolutionR: yes, thats what it means. Get the .rpm and alien it.
[07:52] <konfoo> 1024k yields 30MB human readable, which is correct
[07:52] <nevyn> EvolutionR: there's a package "java-package" which is a tool to convert it.
[07:52] <nevyn> syn-ack: don't do that.
[07:52] <syn-ack> nevyn: no?
[07:52] <konfoo> 31457280
[07:52] <EvolutionR> ok
[07:52] <nevyn> EvolutionR: don't do that. use java-package
[07:53] <melazyboy2> konfoo: How did i 'use' one megabyte, i told dd to output a file of 30megs in size, and told du to output the file's size
[07:53] <syn-ack> nevyn: reasoning? just wondering?
[07:53] <nevyn> syn-ack: aliening the rpm doesn't result in a package that matches policy or provides java-jre
[07:53] <konfoo> bs=1024k
[07:53] <nevyn> or whatever the virtual package is.
[07:53] <syn-ack> nevyn: aha
[07:53] <hou5ton> I'm checking forums to try and find out why my cdrom/dvd isn't autoloading on my new Ubuntu install
[07:53] <hou5ton> hello syn-ack
[07:54] <syn-ack> hou5ton.
[07:54] <hou5ton> any ideas
[07:54] <nevyn> if you use java-package then you get a package that works with alternatives and fits into debian better.
[07:54] <melazyboy2> konfoo: why the hell would it matter if i measured in k or mb, the program should just alias 1024k = 1MB
[07:54] <syn-ack> nevyn: ok
[07:54] <syn-ack> hou5ton: Ideas of?
[07:54] <hou5ton> why the cd isn't auto loading on this new install
[07:54] <nevyn> s/debian/ubuntu/g
[07:54] <hou5ton> it does on the other laptop
[07:54] <konfoo> melazyboy2: read the man file, its all there
[07:55] <melazyboy2> konfoo: And if i use 1024k i get a file 31mb in size when measured with du thats still 1mb over
[07:55] <konfoo> use M, not MB
[07:55] <syn-ack> hou5ton: your fstab setup correctly?
[07:55] <hou5ton> the cdrom isn't listed in /mnt or in /dev
[07:55] <syn-ack> hou5ton: its in /media/
[07:55] <hou5ton> right ,... i found two of them thre
[07:55] <hou5ton> cdrom and cdrom0
[07:55] <syn-ack> hou5ton: its /media/cdrom0
[07:56] <hou5ton> why aren't they automounting
[07:56] <syn-ack> hou5ton: is it setup in your fstab correctly?
[07:56] <Stew2> Does anyone know why I can't edit my GNOME menus?
[07:56] <nevyn> ok.. off to go onsite.
[07:56] <Stew2> I'm running hoary
[07:56] <farruinn> Stew2: someone said there are instructions at http://ubuntuguide.org
[07:56] <melazyboy2> melazyboy@l33t3r-th4n-th0u:~$ dd if=/dev/zero of=./delme bs=1M count=30
[07:56] <melazyboy2> 30+0 records in
[07:56] <melazyboy2> 30+0 records out
[07:56] <melazyboy2> 31457280 bytes transferred in 0.363261 seconds (86596910 bytes/sec)
[07:56] <melazyboy2> melazyboy@l33t3r-th4n-th0u:~$ du -h ./delme
[07:56] <melazyboy2> 31M     ./delme
[07:57] <melazyboy2> There konfoo explain.
[07:57] <hou5ton> syn-ack: remind me how to check that again, please
[07:57] <Stew2> farruinn: 'someone' was incorrect about nautilus on hoary.
[07:57] <zenrox> melazyboy2,  dont past here
[07:57] <konfoo> read the man file
[07:57] <linuxboy> whats the best way to access my fat32 partitions from Ubuntu?
[07:57] <zenrox> use www.pastbin.com please
[07:57] <konfoo> dont live up to your nick
[07:57] <konfoo> ls -lh delme
[07:57] <Stew2> farruinn: It's not working.  Heheh
[07:58] <zenrox> what ever
[07:58] <eyequeue> Stew2:  i've hear youneed a triple slash, not a double
[07:58] <zenrox> ping daniels
[07:58] <melazyboy2> And the stupid chatter subsides.
[07:58] <hou5ton> Stew2: I just edited mine with applications://
[07:58] <eyequeue> Stew2:  *ons:///
[07:58] <syn-ack> hou5ton: hou5ton type "/exec -o cat /etc/fstab | grep cdrom
[07:58] <syn-ack> "
[07:59] <hou5ton> if you want to put in additional categories
[07:59] <konfoo> maybe some day melazyboy will learn how to differentiate between the likes of megabits and megabytes
[07:59] <hou5ton> otherwise, just right click in the menu where you want to add something
[07:59] <eyequeue> Stew2:  but i'm on warty, where i can confirm it works
[07:59] <hou5ton> and the Computer menu cannot be edited
[07:59] <syn-ack> hou5ton....
[08:00] <Stew2> farruinn: Right clicking brought up a help screen, which informed me something was missing, so it couldn't display the help content on the right panel.
[08:00] <syn-ack> hou5ton: hou5ton type "/exec -o cat /etc/fstab | grep cdrom" <- Do that without the quotes.
[08:00] <hou5ton> syn-ack: says no such file or dir when I do that in terminal
[08:00] <Stew2> eyequeue I -was- running warty, but it's pretty jake'd when only firefox 0.8 will run.
[08:01] <syn-ack>  hou5ton type sudo "/exec -o cat /etc/fstab | grep cdrom" <- Do that without the quotes.
[08:01] <konfoo> and the /
[08:01] <konfoo> oh, with the /
[08:02] <konfoo> my bad
[08:02] <eyequeue> Stew2:  deb http://ubuntu-bp.sourceforge.net/ubuntu/ warty-backports main universe
[08:02] <hou5ton> syn-ack: still says no such file or dir
[08:02] <eyequeue> Stew2:  that solved it for me
[08:02] <syn-ack> You have to have an fstab
[08:02] <syn-ack> you CANT have one...
[08:02] <konfoo> haha
[08:02] <syn-ack> cant NOT, that is
[08:03] <hou5ton> maybe i'm in an fstab free zone.  :)
[08:03] <konfoo> impossible
[08:03] <syn-ack> hou5ton: you wouldnt have any mounted drives
[08:03] <konfoo> unless your running windows and not telling us
[08:03] <syn-ack> hou5ton: without one, you would have a kernel panic and it would shit its self.
[08:03] <hou5ton> /dev/hdc        /media/cdrom0   udf,iso9660 ro,user,noauto  0       0
[08:04] <hou5ton> ok.... do you see that
[08:04] <syn-ack> change that "noauto" to "auto"
[08:04] <EvolutionR> I've have the  jre1_5_0-linux-i586-rpm.bin, do I need alien to convert it to .deb package? But how?
[08:05] <zenrox> EvolutionR,  follow the ubuntuguide.com
[08:05] <zenrox> it will tell you how to install it
[08:05] <EvolutionR> okie
[08:05] <konfoo> nevyn: why are you making pain for yourself? get the non-rpm'd version, extract it somewhere like /opt/jre, add the bin directory to your PATH in your profile, and symlink the browser plugin to your mozilla plugins dir
[08:05] <zenrox> just so you know rpm is a bad thang
[08:05] <konfoo> and youre done
[08:05] <konfoo> evo even
[08:06] <rotundo> what does it mean when apt and synaptic warn that package cannot be authenticated ?
[08:06] <crimsun> rotundo: https://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AptAuthenticationInstructionsForHoary
[08:06] <rotundo> thanks
[08:07] <konfoo> haha and he left
[08:07] <konfoo> sigh
[08:07] <hou5ton> syn-ack: will i have to do anything else to get this cdrom to mount now?
[08:07] <syn-ack> hou5ton: iirc, gnome has an automounter...
[08:09] <nevyn> konfoo: because if I do that then whenever I dist-upgrade java points to kaffe again because it's the only one in the debian database
[08:10] <konfoo> nevyn: that was directed at evolutionr (bitchx nick completion on the tick again)
[08:10] <ChaosZ3RO> when will I be able to download hoary? Sorry if it's a really common question. :S
[08:10] <Stew2> Do I have to create the folder that will be the mountpoint?
[08:10] <konfoo> you can also tweak cd properties through gconf-editor, ala
[08:10] <konfoo> ./apps/gnome-cd
[08:11] <Stew2> For example: /dev/hdd    /home/username   ext3   defaults
[08:11] <Stew2> Do I create a folder named username in /home first?
[08:11] <konfoo> use /media
[08:11] <da_bon_bon> how do i make xmodmap forget its settings ?
[08:11] <konfoo> a subdir in there that is
[08:12] <farruinn> Stew2: you want to have an empty /home/username on /
[08:12] <Stew2> farruinn thanks
[08:12] <Stew2> konfoo thanks, this drive will be this user's storage space.
[08:12] <farruinn> Stew2: this is assuming that you have a one user system btw
[08:12] <zenrox> da_bon_bon,  del the  hidden dir it creates in your /home/user dir
[08:12] <Stew2> farruinn No, I don't. This particular user account will have their own drive though...
[08:13] <konfoo> Stew2: ah ok. if its fixed then anywhere.. if its removable in nature then /media
[08:13] <farruinn> Stew2: wait, nm what I said
[08:13] <farruinn> you're fine
[08:13] <mike_> anybody here sucessfully installed wireless int on a thinkpad laptop
[08:14] <Stew2> How do I get ubuntu to load/reload the fstab?
[08:14] <da_bon_bon> zenrox: thanks.
[08:14] <zenrox> da_bon_bon,  n/p
[08:14] <zenrox> Stew2,  sudo mount -a
[08:15] <da_bon_bon> zenrox: it has made no hidden dir. i am looking for help coz it marked two of my important keys as DEAD_ACUTE!!
[08:16] <zenrox> da_bon_bon,  its a .xmodmap
[08:17] <da_bon_bon> zenrox: no such dir.
[08:17] <zenrox> hmmm
[08:17] <zenrox> dont know then
[08:17] <Stew2> How do I unmount something? I created the folder username in /home (/home/username) and editing the fstab file. When I run 'mount -a' I get the message "mount: /dev/hdd already mounted or /home/username busy"
[08:17] <zenrox> thats what i do when gxine decides to misbehave
[08:17] <eyequeue> Stew2:  umount (u not un)
[08:18] <farruinn> zenrox: slap it, really hard
[08:18] <farruinn> ;p
[08:18] <zenrox> i have
[08:19] <zenrox> aplied sience dont work all the time
[08:19] <farruinn> :/
[08:19] <hou5ton> syn-ack: you here?
[08:19] <hou5ton> syn-ack: that did it
[08:19] <heliolith> Does anyone's system ever hang during boot?  Mine does once ever few boots, and I have to hit reset to get back on...  usually while system text is scrolling on the screen...  Just wondered if anyone here has come up against this?
[08:19] <hou5ton> the cd automounted
[08:19] <rotundo> I have gnupg installed but synaptic still says everything won't be authenticated.
[08:20] <crimsun> rotundo: did you glance over that wiki page?
[08:20] <eyequeue> heliolith:  mine "hangs" waiting for net connections to time out sometimes
[08:20] <rotundo> crimsun: yes
[08:21] <eyequeue> heliolith:  laptop, out of wifi range sometimes
[08:21] <rotundo> oops... I think I know whats wrong...
[08:21] <rotundo> thanks
[08:21] <heliolith> crimsun/ eyequeue so what do you do?  reset? or wait?
[08:21] <bitfoo> mine hangs sometimes when setting the time over the network
[08:22] <bitfoo> cuz it tries to use wifi :/
[08:22] <bitfoo> i just ctrl+c
[08:22] <eyequeue> heliolith:  just wait for the timeouts, nothing else will work here
[08:22] <heliolith> ok thank you both (:
[08:22] <hou5ton> anyone else here run into the problem of FireFox not importing favorites
[08:23] <eyequeue> bitfoo:  yeah, that's a weirdness i always ponder
[08:23] <Stew2> Mount keeps telling me the folder I want to mount the drive too is busy, farruinn.
[08:23] <bitfoo> yeah
[08:23] <Stew2> I made the folder with mkdir username inside /home, so it's /home/username
[08:23] <eyequeue> bitfoo:  it uses the wifi to sync time, and then a number of lines later it gets an addy via dhcp
[08:23] <bitfoo> yeah
[08:23] <bitfoo> its wierd
[08:23] <farruinn> Stew2: what does /etc/mtab say?
[08:23] <eyequeue> bitfoo:  how does it use the wofo before the interface is up???
[08:24] <bitfoo> exactly!!!
[08:24] <chibif1> bitfoo - You might also want to check if your BIOS clock is set correctly. It tends to take longer if it's a bit off.
[08:24] <Stew2> farruinn /etc/mtab doesn't say anything about /dev/hdd.
[08:24] <bitfoo> also i think it should be able to tell if the eth0 has connectivity first, then use wirless if needed :|
[08:24] <Stew2> I ran QTparted on the disk so far and created the ext3 partition.
[08:24] <chibif1> I was amazed at how much faster the sync went when I set my clock right. :o
[08:25] <Stew2> farruinn Do I have to reboot?
[08:25] <eyequeue> bitfoo:  glad to hear i'm not the only one scratching his head over that :)
[08:25] <bitfoo> lol
[08:25] <farruinn> Stew2: I don't htink you should have to, but it might be worth a shot
[08:25] <eyequeue> i should shampoo too, lol
[08:25] <Stew2> farruinn what is mtab supposed to say?
[08:26] <farruinn> Stew2: mtab stands for mount table, tells you what's currently mounted
[08:26] <Stew2> farruinn nope, it's not in there.
[08:26] <farruinn> but when you 'mount /dev/hdd /home/username' is says device busy?
[08:26] <farruinn> do you still have parted open?
[08:28] <Stew2> farruinn I tried editing fstab and saying /dev/hdd /media/hdd, and it says the same thing, that /dev/hdd is already mounted or /media/hdd is busy
[08:29] <Stew2> farruinn Nope, I don't have parted or QTparted open.
[08:29] <eyequeue> fuser?
[08:29] <Stew2> farruinn I just told it to 'shutdown -t 0 0 -r'
[08:29] <farruinn> you should have something along the lines of /dev/hdd /home/username ext3 ... in your fstab
[08:29] <Stew2> well c
[08:29] <commodude28> Okay
[08:30] <commodude28> I just installed
[08:30] <commodude28> unbuntu
[08:30] <commodude28> it is debian based
[08:30] <Stew2> farruinn yes. I did. It wasn't working. so I restarted.
[08:30] <commodude28> so I went to the debian site
[08:30] <delltony> question is there a reason why when i try sudo apt-cache update it gives me invalid operation?
[08:30] <commodude28> to figure out
[08:30] <commodude28> out to uninstall packages
[08:30] <farruinn> delltony: because you want sudo apt-get update =)
[08:30] <commodude28> but the link is broken
[08:30] <delltony> i tried sudo
[08:31] <eyequeue> mount without operands?
[08:31] <commodude28> So how I do that?
[08:31] <linuxboy> Has anyone here moved mail from Windows Thunderbird to Linux Thunderbird???  File / Import would not work
[08:38] <delltony> i was just gonna put the file in the dir
[08:38] <delltony> and call it a day
[08:38] <delltony> if i know wht file it is
[08:38] <hou5ton> i didn't get that to work either
[08:38] <delltony> hmm
[08:38] <delltony> well i'm open ears
[08:38] <hou5ton> but you can try ... ~/.mozilla/firefox and some profile
[08:38] <delltony> i was just gonna scp the file over
[08:38] <delltony> ok
[08:38] <ChaosZ3RO> Is there any way to install hoary from the live cd, or download a hoary iso?
[08:39] <hou5ton> anyway, i went to Bookmarks/Manage Bookmarks ... and the import function worked there
[08:39] <hou5ton> for me anyway
[08:39] <delltony> is it bookmarks.html?
[08:39] <hou5ton> the one that is in there now is
[08:39] <eyequeue> ~/.mozilla/firefox/default*/bookmarks.html
[08:39] <ubhuti> eyequeue: I don't know, could you explain it?
[08:39] <hou5ton> the one i imported though was bookmark.htm
[08:39] <hou5ton> yep
[08:39] <delltony> ok
[08:40] <EvolutionR> I've installed the java .deb package. But I want to remove /uninstall it. Teach me how to uninstall it?
[08:40] <delltony> let me scp this over to the lappy
[08:40] <eyequeue> EvolutionR:  sudo dpkg --purge packagename
[08:40] <EvolutionR> okie
[08:41] <heliolith> so to update firefox, do people generally Download, then uninstall .9, and install 1.0?  there's not a true update function for ff, correct? I can't find a thread on it
[08:41] <eyequeue> heliolith:  backports
[08:41] <eyequeue> heliolith:  in etc/apt/sources.list:  deb http://ubuntu-bp.sourceforge.net/ubuntu/ warty-backports main universe
[08:42] <heliolith> excellent; thanks!
[08:42] <eyequeue> np
[08:42] <EvolutionR> eyequeue: is dpkg -r packagename do the same thing?
[08:42] <eyequeue> EvolutionR:  similar
[08:42] <eyequeue> EvolutionR:  that leaves "droppings" behind, in terms of conffiles
[08:43] <eyequeue> EvolutionR:  sometimes that is desirable, so you have both options
[08:43] <EvolutionR> but I want to remove the java completely!
[08:43] <EvolutionR> dont want leave anything behind
[08:43] <eyequeue> purge is more complete then remove
[08:44] <EvolutionR> okie
[08:44] <EvolutionR> but how to know what's the package name?
[08:44] <hou5ton> eyequeue: hmmm ... tell this newbie a little more about backports, if you may
[08:44] <delltony> houston so how did you get the html to work
[08:44] <delltony> i scp's it over
[08:44] <delltony> moved it to the dir and i get no bookmarks
[08:44] <eyequeue> dpkg -l java | grep ^i | less
[08:45] <hou5ton> that didn't work for me ... right
[08:45] <hou5ton> i had the same think happen.
[08:45] <delltony> yeah but i thought i was gonna give it a shot
[08:45] <hou5ton> :-)
[08:45] <delltony> how did you get it to work
[08:45] <farruinn> hou5ton: add this to your sources.list: deb http://ubuntu-bp.sourceforge.net/ubuntu/ warty-backports main universe
[08:46] <hou5ton> so, ... I went to Bookmarks/Manage Bookmarks/File/Import
[08:46] <hou5ton> and it worked that way
[08:46] <EvolutionR> eyequeue: after typing this in root terminal dpkg -l java | grep ^i | less , it shows black with "End" at the left hand bottom how to exit that thing?
[08:46] <delltony> and import the html?
[08:46] <eyequeue> hou5ton:  i should point you to some faq on a website if i knew one :)  basically, there's a handful of things in hoary that many seem to want, so they have been packaged to be compatible with warty
[08:46] <crimsun> farruinn: please be sure to warn people whom you advise regarding ubuntu-bp that dist-upgrading from warty->hoary may include difficulties
[08:46] <heliolith> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=3713
[08:46] <eyequeue> hou5ton:  two examples, 1.0 of firefox and thunderbird
[08:47] <farruinn> crimsun: ah, will do
[08:47] <heliolith> hou5ton that's a good reference that talks about universe
[08:47] <eyequeue> hou5ton:  this is a way to accomodate that without movong completely to hoary
[08:48] <EvolutionR> eyequeue: after typing this in root terminal dpkg -l java | grep ^i | less , it shows blank screen with "End" at the left hand bottom how to exit that thing/ back to prompt?
[08:48] <eyequeue> EvolutionR:  press q
[08:48] <EvolutionR> ok
[08:48] <heliolith> this is about adding extra repositories here; http://ubuntuguide.org/#extrarepositories are repositories and backports nearly synonymous?
[08:49] <eyequeue> EvolutionR:  press q to quit "less" like for example when reading a man page too
[08:49] <crimsun> heliolith: a backport repo is an example of an external repo
[08:49] <farruinn> hou5ton: just to be sure you do'nt miss what crimsun said, backports can cause serious problems when upgrading to hoary, so you'll have to remove any installed backports
[08:49] <Stew2> How do I copy folders, files, everything inside a folder from the command line?
[08:49] <eyequeue> heliolith:  the "backports" repository is an additional repository
[08:49] <farruinn> Stew2: cp [source]  [destination]
[08:49] <syn-ack> eyequeue: pinning is what I usually do, in Debian, I never really trusted backports. How are they in Ubuntu?
[08:50] <hou5ton> when would i be upgrading to hoary?
[08:50] <heliolith> linux.org has a great tutorial for commandline Stew2
[08:50] <eyequeue> heliolith:  it happens to contain backpoerted packages :)
[08:50] <hou5ton> i don't know that I'm linux enough yet to deal with too many problems
[08:50] <syn-ack> hou5ton: When its frozen, really.
[08:50] <eyequeue> syn-ack:  i've not had troubles myself
[08:50] <farruinn> hou5ton: hoary will be frozen in april
[08:50] <hou5ton> so, until then, i'm good to go huh?
[08:50] <heliolith> frozen meaning what?
[08:51] <hou5ton> i really just want the latest version of xchat
[08:51] <syn-ack> eyequeue: Hell, I tracking bugs anyway, so Im just running Hoary anyway. ;)
[08:51] <hou5ton> do backports get that for me?
[08:51] <Stew2> farruinn 'cp  *  /home/username'?
[08:51] <syn-ack> hou5ton: they should.
[08:51] <eyequeue> hou5ton:  warty will probably suit you well until the hoary release
[08:51] <syn-ack> s/I/I'm
[08:51] <crimsun> syn-ack: generally, of the same "quality" unless certain precautions are made for the versioning. For example, my repo's packages, when installed, ensure a smooth dist-upgrade from warty->hoary.
[08:51] <heliolith> When one wishes to move from warty to hoary is it like a complete reinstall or some sort of update?
[08:51] <Stew2> farruinn: It's doing something..
[08:52] <eyequeue> hou5ton:  a 6month release cycle isn't too long to be patient ;)
[08:52] <syn-ack> crimsun: right right
[08:52] <hou5ton> :-)
[08:52] <farruinn> Stew2: no, use the name of the dir you want to copy to /home/username
[08:52] <crimsun> syn-ack: "of the same 'quality'" meaning that those backports are of the same "quality" as Debian backports, which is to say that mostly they don't adhere to the versioning guidelines
[08:52] <Stew2> heliolith It was like an update for me.
[08:52] <eyequeue> heliolith:  it's one command actually, but not advised for a newbie
[08:52] <EvolutionR> Which one should I choose for the Mozilla Firefox plugin. JRE 1.5  ns7 or ns7gcc29?
[08:52] <Stew2> farruinn too late.
[08:52] <hou5ton> ya, ... agreed ... but is there an easy way to go ahead and get the latest xchat?
[08:52] <syn-ack> EvolutionR: ns7.
[08:52] <eyequeue> hou5ton:  2.4.1 is in backports
[08:53] <hou5ton> k
[08:53] <syn-ack> hou5ton: backports or pinning.
[08:53] <syn-ack> backports are safer.
[08:53] <heliolith> Warty is more than good enough for me, I'm in no hurry!  Thanks for all you bleeding edge folk clearing the bugs out for us!
[08:53] <syn-ack> heliolith: no problem.
[08:53] <hou5ton> so, .. let me make sure I understand this .. i put in the backports line, nad then reload the synaptic, and the latest xchat will be there to install?
[08:54] <eyequeue> right
[08:54] <hou5ton> cool
[08:54] <eyequeue> well, 2.4.1
[08:54] <syn-ack> hou5ton: or you can from a term type "sudo apt-get update && apt-get upgrade xchat
[08:54] <eyequeue> i don't know if this is "latest" or not really
[08:54] <syn-ack> "
[08:55] <bitfoo> hoary = way too unstable for me so i install warty again tomorrow :|
[08:55] <eyequeue> -eyequeue- VERSION xchat 2.4.1 Linux 2.6.10-1-686 [i686/598.88MHz]
[08:55] <EvolutionR> syn-ack: should do a -s /usr/java/j2re1.5.0/plugin/i386/ns7/libjavaplugin_oji.so in the mozilla-firefox current dir?
[08:56] <EvolutionR> bitfoo: how unstable?
[08:56] <syn-ack> EvolutionR: you know how to symlink, right
[08:56] <syn-ack> ?
[08:57] <EvolutionR> yeah
[08:57] <bitfoo> unstable enough that I can't play ET or any movies :|
[08:57] <syn-ack> EvolutionR: then thats what you do.
[08:57] <syn-ack> bitfoo: I can play movies just fine.
[08:57] <EvolutionR> all rite
[08:57] <hou5ton> where did I go wrong: .. Couldn't stat source package list http://ubuntu-bp.sourceforge.net warty-backports/main Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/ubuntu-bp.sourceforge.net_ubuntu_dists_warty-backports_main_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)
[08:57] <bitfoo> well you != bitfoo
[08:57] <bitfoo> so... :|
[08:58] <EvolutionR> u play movies with wat movie player?
[08:58] <bitfoo> i try mplayer and xine :|
[08:58] <bitfoo> xine say device is always busy :/
[08:58] <syn-ack> EvolutionR, I use mplayer.
[08:58] <bitfoo> mplayer plays movies with no sound, gmplayer will load nothing :|
[08:58] <bitfoo> i say -ao esd but nothing :|
[08:58] <EvolutionR> u use the rpm or source?
[08:59] <syn-ack> -syn-ack- VERSION xchat 2.4.1 Linux 2.6.10-2-686 [i686/2.39GHz]
[08:59] <syn-ack> EvolutionR, I dont touch rpms.
[08:59] <EvolutionR> syn-ack u download the sources?
[08:59] <hou5ton> syn-ack: here's the line I typed in:.....deb http://ubuntu-bp.sourceforge.net/ubuntu/ warty-backports main universe
[08:59] <syn-ack> EvolutionR, no.
[08:59] <bitfoo> i used source :|
[08:59] <hou5ton> but it didn't work out
[08:59] <EvolutionR> oic bitfoo
[09:00] <syn-ack> what is the error, hou5ton?
[09:00] <bitfoo> still totem should have worked
[09:00] <bitfoo> then again i have never ever gotten totem to work :/
[09:00] <hou5ton> where did I go wrong: .. Couldn't stat source package list http://ubuntu-bp.sourceforge.net warty-backports/main Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/ubuntu-bp.sourceforge.net_ubuntu_dists_warty-backports_main_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)
[09:00] <syn-ack> hou5ton, is it setup right?
[09:00] <syn-ack> OH
[09:01] <syn-ack> I know what it is.
[09:01] <syn-ack> hou5ton, comment out some of your other sources.
[09:01] <syn-ack> like one or two of them.
[09:01] <hou5ton> ok ... so it doesn't matter which one?
[09:01] <bitfoo> i think you have to apt-get update first :|
[09:02] <syn-ack> hou5ton, then make sure the line looks EXACTLY like this... : deb http://ubuntu-bp.sourceforge.net/ubuntu warty-backports main universe
[09:02] <EvolutionR> syn-ack: I haven't try Mplayer or Xine on the Ubuntu Distro. But I've tried on Suse 9.2 it works Eg.  I'll test whether the Mplayer or Xine work later!
[09:03] <eyequeue> heliolith:  yeah, a second login won't have sudo rights by default
[09:03] <syn-ack> deb http://ubuntu-bp.sourceforge.net/ubuntu warty-backports main universe
[09:03] <racoontje|clone> Hi :-) I'm about to install Ubuntu, and I'm looking for a nightly build of the install CD. All I've found is the LiveCD version 3.5 for Hoary, but it is unclear if this can be used for installation :-( Any ideas?
[09:03] <syn-ack> hou5ton, like that.
[09:03] <bitfoo> yeah make a second login :|
[09:04] <bitfoo> then they can't sudo with the same pass :|
[09:04] <linuxboy> EvolutionR: How did the upgrade to Hoary go?
[09:04] <heliolith> thanks eyequeue
[09:04] <eyequeue> np
[09:04] <farruinn> racoontje|clone: the install cd is separate
[09:04] <heliolith> not that they could figure out the sudo command lol
[09:04] <EvolutionR> linuxboy: the upgrade to Hoary was just smoothly :) , how bout u on Warthy?
[09:04] <racoontje|clone> farruinn: problem is I don't think the kernel on warty's release install cd supports all the hardware on my amd64 box
[09:05] <farruinn> racoontje|clone: well, that's where the livecd comes in =)
[09:05] <racoontje|clone> farruinn: for example, gentoo 2004.2 didn't, 2004.3 did... 2004.3 is like a two months old
[09:05] <racoontje|clone> farruinn: you can install from the livecd?
[09:05] <farruinn> no
[09:05] <linuxboy> EvolutionR: im on warty. Ill upgrade to Hoary when its official. Im just keen to know how the upgrade went
[09:05] <defile> EvolutionR, you're running Hoary right now?
[09:05] <racoontje|clone> Not even debootstrap using ubuntu sources?
[09:06] <EvolutionR> linuxboy: I'm on Hoary now, still testing ...
[09:06] <EvolutionR> defile: yes! why?
[09:06] <defile> EvolutionR, I'm curious about running it myself
[09:06] <linuxboy> EvolutionR: did you have any non-ubuntu packages installed before the upgrade?
[09:06] <farruinn> racoontje|clone: don't know about that...
[09:06] <defile> although right now, Warty is pretty solid for me
[09:07] <EvolutionR> defile: it so easy to upgrade to hoary, unless u dont mind it's still on development
[09:07] <farruinn> racoontje|clone: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/SupportedHardware <- check it out, may help
[09:07] <defile> EvolutionR, how do you do it?
[09:08] <EvolutionR> linuxboy: no! I format the Warthy and did a fresh install, because the previous Warthy got mess up with installing some apps!
[09:08] <bitfoo> i cant play games or watch pr0n so back to warty for me :|
[09:08] <linuxboy> EvolutionR: Oic, so you didnt upgrade, you re-installed?
[09:09] <EvolutionR> defile: u change the /etc/sources.list   from warthy to hoary. And remove the "#" debian warthy cdrom thing
[09:09] <bitfoo> or
[09:09] <bitfoo> you can download the latest daily install cd image
[09:09] <bitfoo> :|
[09:09] <defile> EvolutionR, then sudo apt-get dist-upgrade?
[09:10] <EvolutionR> linuxboy: yes reinstall the Warthy (fresh) then do a apt-get update, apt-get dist-upgrade!
[09:10] <EvolutionR> defile : yes!
[09:10] <linuxboy> EvolutionR: no, i dont wanna reinstall Warty. I wanna know if I can upgrade to Hoary without killing my warty
[09:10] <EvolutionR> linuxboy: that's how I upgrade mine!
[09:11] <EvolutionR> linuxboy: I was saying that was my upgrade thing :) sorry to confuse u
[09:11] <hou5ton> syn-ack:   got it
[09:11] <linuxboy> EvolutionR: OIC. Great
[09:11] <hou5ton> and everyone else that helped too   :)
[09:11] <EvolutionR> linuxboy: so u try upgrade to Hoary?
[09:12] <syn-ack> hou5ton, good good
[09:12] <linuxboy> EvolutionR: not sure. I dont want something to go wrong. I might wait for the official hoary. How is hoary?
[09:12] <syn-ack> linuxboy, Im using it now.
[09:12] <hou5ton> syn-ack:   by the way, .. what's a good dual window file manager, ... like the gentoo in the distro Gentoo?
[09:12] <EvolutionR> defile: u gonna upgrade?
[09:12] <syn-ack> hou5ton, I use Nautalus
[09:13] <linuxboy> syn-ack: how did you install it?
[09:13] <syn-ack> hou5ton, Im a Gnome user, remember? ;)
[09:14] <syn-ack> linuxboy, I installed warty then added the proper sources to my sources.list and then apt-get upgraded and dist-upgraded.
[09:14] <EvolutionR> linuxboy: as for u warthy is good enuf! I upgrade my warthy to hoary because my pppoe cant work/cant surf net. So I try to upgrade to Hoary, well now I use pppoe it work, it can also let me surf internet.
[09:14] <carthik> So what's the best way to get a linksys wireless card that uses ndiswrapper going?
[09:14] <hou5ton> syn-ack:   ya, well so am i using Ubuntu, ... but I don't see that it does dual windows
[09:14] <hou5ton> and it has this annoying habit of opening a new window with every navigation
[09:14] <syn-ack> hou5ton, it does, thats what Xinerama's for.
[09:14] <syn-ack> hou5ton, you can change that.
[09:14] <linuxboy> syn-ack: do you know if its wise to upgrade after using warty for a while??
[09:14] <eyequeue> hou5ton:  like mc in console?
[09:15] <eyequeue> hou5ton:  or like dualheaded, two monitors?
[09:15] <syn-ack> linuxboy, I upgraded after two days of using this distro. Im a bug tracker though. ;)
[09:15] <EvolutionR> I experience difficulty on pppoe to surf internet on Warthy, but since I've upgraded to Hoary, everything seems to be fine, can surf internet too!
[09:15] <hou5ton> i want duplicate file manager windows .. side by side
[09:16] <eyequeue> hou5ton:  mc in console then
[09:16] <EvolutionR> linuxboy: if u want to take the risk
[09:16] <syn-ack> hou5ton, Gentoo may be in here...
[09:16] <eyequeue> hou5ton:  apt-get install mc
[09:16] <linuxboy> syn-ack: ahhh.... well ill try it when it comes out, but ill backup first
[09:16] <hou5ton> k
[09:16] <syn-ack> hou5ton, dont do that.
[09:16] <syn-ack> hou5ton, "apt-get install gentoo"
[09:17] <syn-ack> its in there, I just checked.
[09:17] <hou5ton> really?   that's cool
[09:17] <hou5ton> great
[09:17] <farruinn> it's in universe
[09:17] <syn-ack> gentoo - a fully GUI-configurable, two-pane X file manager <- hou5ton
[09:18] <heliolith> ok I'm confused, I tried using synaptic to update firefox, and it says version .9/1.0 is installed, but under "About" it's saying version .9.3 tell me once again? I'm supposed to add a line for backports to my source file?
[09:18] <syn-ack> heliolith, pr1.0 is still unstable.
[09:19] <heliolith> oh? ok
[09:19] <EvolutionR> linuxboy: if your on the upgrade to hoary...let me know how's u going ok?
[09:20] <EvolutionR> anyone here using Hoary with Kde ?
[09:20] <heliolith> I'm actually running 1.0, not PR on this box, but i got it by DLing and installing to a new folder, ignoring originally installed .93... i'm trying to do it right on box #2
[09:20] <syn-ack> EvolutionR, I wouldnt use KDE with anything.
[09:20] <EvolutionR> syn-ack : why?
[09:20] <hou5ton> gentoo (the file manager) is nice
[09:21] <linuxboy> EvolutionR: i think ill do it in april :)
[09:21] <farruinn> heliolith: it's best to keep to the apt system
[09:21] <syn-ack> EvolutionR, I have used Gnome since I used RedHat 5.2 .
[09:21] <EvolutionR> linuxboy: smart choice!
[09:21] <syn-ack> EvolutionR, I shouldnt have to say more. ;)
[09:21] <EvolutionR> oic sync-ack
[09:21] <EvolutionR> :) yeah
[09:22] <EvolutionR> syn-ack : I have problem with the firefox plugin after I did the ln -s /usr/java/jre1.5.0_01/plugin/i386/ns7/libjavaplugin_oji.so, it wont display applet?
[09:22] <Riddell> EvolutionR: yes, I'm using KDE
[09:22] <EvolutionR> Riddell: the latest kde ? how was it going any trouble ?
[09:23] <syn-ack> EvolutionR, you have to symlink it into /usr/libs/plugins ....
[09:23] <EvolutionR> Anyone here got their's firefox 1.0 java plugin working?????
[09:23] <syn-ack> EvolutionR, I do.
[09:23] <EvolutionR> symlink into /usr/libs/plugins?
[09:24] <EvolutionR> nvr mention on the website?
[09:24] <Riddell> EvolutionR: works fine apart from an issue with the k-menu
[09:24] <Riddell> https://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/InstallingKDE
[09:24] <syn-ack> EvolutionR, sure it does.
[09:25] <eyequeue> why is the wiki https anyway? anyone know?
[09:25] <eyequeue> passwords?
[09:25] <daniels> eyequeue: when logging in, you pass your login details in cleartext otherwise
[09:25] <EvolutionR> Riddell: I remember the Gnome menu use to be troublesoome/ disappear no menu at all Gnome 2.6
[09:25] <syn-ack> EvolutionR, /usr/libs/mozilla-firefox/plugins
[09:25] <eyequeue> daniels:  *nod*
[09:26] <EvolutionR> syn-ack: /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/plugins # ln -s /usr/java/jre1.5.0_01/plugin/i386/ns7/libjavaplugin_oji.so
[09:26] <eyequeue> daniels:  i'm glad someone thought of that, unlike so many other wikis
[09:26] <EvolutionR> is this ok?
[09:26] <rempresent> I have a really n00b question for you guys
[09:27] <rempresent> i am trying to install "grip" using debians package system, and I don't really know how to go about that
[09:27] <pw> "apt-get install grip"
[09:27] <syn-ack> EvolutionR, No.
[09:27] <pw> However, I like sound-juicer better.
[09:27] <Adrenal> is there any way to recover files after a format?
[09:27] <Adrenal> any program?
[09:27] <pw> Adrenal: no.
[09:27] <syn-ack> EvolutionR, the OTHER way around. I thought you said you knew how to symlink?
[09:27] <rempresent> couldn't find package grip
[09:27] <Adrenal> pw: u sure?
[09:27] <syn-ack> pw, Sound Juicer is the shit./
[09:27] <pw> Adrenal: Is your data worth several thousand dollars to you?
[09:27] <farruinn> rempresent: you need to enable universe most likely
[09:28] <eyequeue> Adrenal:  if you're a three-letter agency, probably; if you're a mere human, no
[09:28] <EvolutionR> syn-ack: I follow the firefox website faq...........
[09:28] <rempresent> farruin, how do i go about that
[09:28] <Adrenal> pw: my formal photos, i kinda want them back
[09:28] <pw> farruinn: good shot, grip is in universe
[09:28] <Adrenal> pw: i've heard there are progs that can do it
[09:28] <pw> Adrenal: If your data /is/ worth several thousand dollars to you, there are companies with specialist equipment that will recover your data for you.
[09:29] <EvolutionR> syn-ack: http://plugindoc.mozdev.org/faqs/java.html
[09:29] <farruinn> rempresent: open synaptic (Computer>System Configuration>Synaptic) and select repositories from the settings menu
[09:29] <rempresent> sound juicer is taking a lot of time, i was just going to try it with grip
[09:30] <pw> grip will be no faster :-)
[09:30] <pw> Clean the CD, first off.
[09:30] <farruinn> regardless of speed, I prefer grip over sound juicer
[09:31] <DAn-005> Hey
[09:31] <DAn-005> I am going to be installing ubuntu on my PC with an ATI Radeon 9800 Pro
[09:31] <EvolutionR> syn-ack: so how to do it? teach me pls!
[09:31] <DAn-005> should I ahve any problems ?
[09:31] <rempresent> farr, i did all of that and it gave me a prompt for it, i selected yes, now what
[09:31] <pw> farruinn: for a new user, sound-juicer is better; grip can be fiddly to configure
[09:31] <DAn-005> I could never get any distro to work with an ATI card
[09:31] <syn-ack> EvolutionR, that would work from what it looks like on the site.
[09:31] <farruinn> pw: very true
[09:31] <infinii> Hi, is this warthog iso I just downloaded a LiveCD or an install?
[09:31] <pw> DAn-005: Nope, I have that card
[09:32] <EvolutionR> syn-ack: but the applet not working at all
[09:32] <DAn-005> so is should be fine ?
[09:32] <pw> yeah
[09:32] <DAn-005> thanks
[09:32] <pw> just remember to install the fglrx-driver
[09:32] <pw> oops
[09:32] <farruinn> rempresent: there should be two entries that are greyed out
[09:32] <pw> :-)
[09:32] <syn-ack> pw, Im not a new user and I love sound jucier. Im lazy. ;)
[09:32] <rempresent> dan, i just started using ubuntu and it worked fine with my ati 9800pro
[09:32] <defile> EvolutionR, can I PM you?
[09:32] <pw> syn-ack: heh, me too </aol>
[09:32] <rempresent> farr, yeah i selected them
[09:32] <farruinn> rempresent: you can check them
[09:32] <farruinn> rempresent: ok, then hit the reload button
[09:32] <infinii> Why isn't there a livecd available for powerpc?
[09:32] <hou5ton> syn-ack:   get some rest man .....
[09:32] <hou5ton> catch ya later
[09:32] <EvolutionR> syn-ack: i've tried on the http://www.dslreports.com/tweaks
[09:32] <farruinn> infinii: there will be for hoary
[09:33] <syn-ack> hou5ton, gnigh.
[09:33] <EvolutionR> defile: sure!
[09:33] <syn-ack> EvolutionR, one sec.
[09:33] <defile> thanks
[09:33] <infinii> farruinn: ok thanks
[09:33] <EvolutionR> syn-ack : okie
[09:33] <farruinn> infinii: you can try the prerelease that came out the other day
[09:34] <davepet> Any recomendations for a proggy to play wav files? Totum ain't gettin it.
[09:35] <b_e_n_z> davepet, aplay?
[09:35] <syn-ack> EvolutionR, From your /, type this. 'ln -s /usr/java/jre1.5.0_01/plugin/i386/ns7/libjavaplugin_oji.so /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/plugins/" ....without the quotes.
[09:36] <davepet> b_e_n_z: Thx, looking...
[09:36] <Adrenal> make sure firefox isn't running though
[09:38] <EvolutionR> syn-ack: ok I try
[09:38] <infinii> farruinn: I just found out gentoo has a ppc livecd. I'm just gonna try that instead. thanks
[09:39] <syn-ack> infinii, I could have told you that. I used to run GentooPPC.
[09:39] <syn-ack> infinii, Im also friends with the some of the Devs. ;)
[09:39] <infinii> syn-ack: nice
[09:40] <syn-ack> infinii, new or oldworld Mac?
[09:41] <infinii> 15" powerbook 1.25ghz
[09:41] <infinii> very pleased with OS X but like to play with livecds once in awhile to see how linux has progressed
[09:42] <infinii> syn-ack: I don't want to install. just want to boot off livecd and use it to play
[09:43] <infinii> for a laptop, I'd be smoking crack to wanna format OS X and put Linux on it. no offense ;)
[09:43] <kakalto> how can I set up a linux network?
[09:43] <farruinn> infinii: I agree =)
[09:43] <kakalto> so I can copy files between two computers?
[09:43] <syn-ack> infinii, You are in for a a suprise then. The Gentoo LiveCD is nothing like Knoppix. it has a shell and thats all.
[09:44] <kakalto> yup
[09:44] <Agrajag> kakalto: set up nfs or samba
[09:44] <kakalto> :D
[09:44] <infinii> syn-ack: ugh. I'll grab knoppix instead then
[09:44] <szi> hi
[09:44] <kakalto> Agrajag, that's windows, isn't it?
[09:44] <delltony> question: doesn't ubuntu have a simple installer for java now? and if so where about can i find this i tried apt-get install java that was on the wiki but firefox is still asking me for a plugin :(
[09:44] <syn-ack> infinii, You know that linus Devs the kernel on a Dual G-5, right?
[09:44] <Agrajag> kakalto: samba is
[09:44] <Agrajag> nfs is not
[09:44] <kakalto> infinii: The Gentoo Livecd is for installing
[09:44] <szi> does anyone know the details on how the ubuntu (hoary) livecd was mastered?
[09:44] <Agrajag> samba runs in linux as well anyway
[09:44] <kakalto> sadly though
[09:44] <kakalto> I can't download anything
[09:44] <kakalto> D:
[09:45] <syn-ack> Im running a Samba share just fine right now.
[09:45] <kakalto> I hate internet cap's
[09:45] <kakalto> especially 2gb ones which you take up with normal surfing :(
[09:45] <kakalto> (assuming I'm not getting ripped off by them)
[09:46] <szi> i'm interested to know how it was created exactly beause when i boot it, it looks an awful lot like a modified sarge installer
[09:47] <syn-ack> szi, um, actually thats the Sid installer, modified.
[09:47] <szi> sorry sid
[09:47] <szi> yeah it looks idenitcal
[09:47] <szi> how was it modieifed?
[09:47] <EvolutionR> syn-ack: I did cd /....ln -s /usr/java/jre1.5.0_01/plugin/i386/ns7/libjavaplugin_oji.so /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/plugins/   still no applets running :(
[09:47] <szi> my question was what was the process
[09:47] <syn-ack> szi, Welcome to ncurses.
[09:47] <nir> interesting note: on same hardware, ubuntu linux can serve python cgi almost 3 times faster then OS X
[09:47] <kakalto> how long ago was warty "released"?
[09:47] <syn-ack> EvolutionR, Dont know.
[09:47] <jintxo> hey guys :-) I'm going to install ubuntu for my girlfriend, whoi doesn't speak english, does ubunut have spanish packages and the such?
[09:47] <nir> I tested with MoinMoin wiki engine
[09:48] <kakalto> as in, stopped being developed as warty, and started being developed as hoary?
[09:48] <Adrenal> jintxo: i'd assume so
[09:48] <carthik> kackalto, the version number is built thus - > y.mm
[09:48] <delltony> can someone help me in installing java on ubuntu please?
[09:48] <eyequeue> jintxo:  internationalization support is one of the pimary goals, yes
[09:48] <EvolutionR> syn-ack: any other website that I can test the java applets?
[09:48] <kakalto> carthik, okie...
[09:48] <szi> syn-ack: what does ncurses have to do with it
[09:48] <jintxo> great, that's the idea I had, but I've never installed linux in any language other than english, heh
[09:48] <delltony> i see your havin the same issue evolution
[09:49] <szi> syn-ack: i think you do'nt understand the question perhaps
[09:49] <EvolutionR> syn-ack: u using Hoary on Java RE 1.5 on Gnome 2.9....?
[09:49] <eyequeue> jintxo:  i speak english myself though, but spanish is a common language, i'm sure it's well-covered
[09:49] <syn-ack> EvolutionR, The last I knew It was Gnome 2.8.
[09:49] <jintxo> eyequeue, great, I'm burniong the CD, so I'll let you know how my gf likes it :-p
[09:49] <carthik> delltony, there is a howto at ubuntuguide.org that should be of help
[09:49] <Adrenal> jintxo: can't see anything like it in the repositories though
[09:49] <eyequeue> cool
[09:50] <syn-ack> EvolutionR, oh shit, I quess it is 2.9
[09:50] <delltony> let me try it again i thougth i used that method
[09:50] <syn-ack> EvolutionR, yeah, I am then
[09:50] <delltony> with adding the sources and then apt-get install java whatever it was
[09:50] <EvolutionR> syn-ack: yes I guess its the 2.9 thing causing it?
[09:50] <syn-ack> EvolutionR, I dont know.
[09:50] <jintxo> Adrenal, is there a site like packages.debian.org that lists the ubunut packages so I can take a look while the CD burns ?
[09:50] <Adrenal> hang on
[09:50] <syn-ack> EvolutionR, I dont use Java that much.
[09:50] <Adrenal> yeh, it does
[09:51] <jintxo> (slow writer)
[09:51] <Adrenal> it asks you at install from memory
[09:51] <EvolutionR> syn-ack: I remember I use the exactly method to symlink on other distro it work just fine maybe the 2.9 thing
[09:52] <Adrenal> jintxo: i'll use the boot disk and check, don't leave this channel until i get back
[09:52] <Adrenal> jintxo: ok?
[09:52] <syn-ack> EvolutionR, Doubtful. It is an unstable branch. theres more than likely to it than that.
[09:52] <delltony> trying that method now be back in a min and thanks carthik
[09:52] <kakalto> canonical releases a version of ubuntu every six months... when was warty released?
[09:52] <carthik> delltony, that was how I got it going on mine, if that is any reassurance
[09:52] <farruinn> kakalto: hoary will come out in april
[09:53] <kakalto> kewl
[09:53] <kakalto> thanks
[09:53] <Adrenal> jintxo?
[09:53] <jintxo> Adrenal, don't bother witht hat, I can check myself :-)
[09:53] <jintxo> I've got an extra partition ready for testing out before I set her up
[09:53] <Adrenal> jintxo: ok, if your sure
[09:53] <infinii> Ahh ok, I'm gonna get this gnoppix (ubuntu based) livecd then, I would rather see Gnome2 than KDE.
[09:53] <rempresent> can anyone help me with a sound card problem
[09:53] <Adrenal> jintxo: fair sure it has spanish
[09:54] <infinii> and gnoppix has hoard release for ppc
[09:54] <Adrenal> rempresent: depends what the problem is
[09:54] <EvolutionR> syn-ack: ok, is there any java appss icons that I can execute, I remember when I installed java on other distro, it show the java on the apps menu
[09:54] <syn-ack> I dont use Java.
[09:54] <farruinn> infinii: don't forget to check out hoary in april though ;)
[09:54] <jintxo> Adrenal, really thanks for the helpfulness :-)
[09:54] <Adrenal> jintxo: aww shicks
[09:54] <infinii> farruinn: yeah I know it's only beta now. but like I said, I'm not looking to install
[09:54] <EvolutionR> oki
[09:55] <EvolutionR> syn-ack how bout flash player?
[09:55] <syn-ack> That, I run.
[09:55] <syn-ack> That I installed. and it works.
[09:55] <syn-ack> EvolutionR, I use the version I get from Macromedia.com though. I will not use any other packages.
[09:56] <Sirius_Black> hi people - i've managed to delete my mbr :-).  I use grub to dual boot.  I can boot into Ubuntu using a LiveCD.  How do I -reinstate Grub on the MBR please
[09:56] <EvolutionR> syn-ack: :)
[09:57] <eyequeue> Sirius_Black:  /sbin/update-grub ?
[09:58] <rempresent> yessss!
[09:58] <mykdelta_> zo. druk zat hier
[09:58] <EvolutionR> syn-ack : u use firefox 1.0? I have some problem trying to search the google thing provided on the firefox thing, sometimes I can't search..."connectiong"
[09:59] <Sirius_Black> eyequeue: that didnt seam to work, i.e. cant boot inti ubuntu :-(
[09:59] <maps73> hy, evrybody
[09:59] <eyequeue> Sirius_Black:  bummer
[09:59] <eyequeue> Sirius_Black:  out of ideas, sorry
[09:59] <Sirius_Black> btw eyequeue Ubuntu is on hdb1 and mbr should be on hda
[09:59] <maps73> please, could anyone help me to installa in my ubuntu warty the javase50 for firefox?
[09:59] <EvolutionR> how to test whether the flash player is working any website???
[10:00] <carthik> EvolutionR, search google for some flash game
[10:00] <syn-ack> EvolutionR, www.atomfilms.com
[10:00] <EvolutionR> maps73 : wat file u got there is rpm.bin or bin?
[10:00] <syn-ack> shockwave.com....
[10:00] <EvolutionR> okie thanks guys
[10:02] <maps73> EvolutionR, hy, i dont' know. when i try to visit a web page with a java plug in, i see the message that inform me that I don't have installed this plug in. so i'm able to installa only with apt-get instal xyz.
[10:02] <EvolutionR> will the firefox plugin search will work? it detected the Macromedia 7, so I click install
[10:03] <infinii> Anywhere I can find torrents for Hoary beta? this mirror is slow
[10:03] <syn-ack> afk
[10:04] <EvolutionR> maps73:http://java.sun.com/downloads/index.html
[10:04] <delltony> good deal car that worked thanks
[10:04] <kagou> hi
[10:05] <EvolutionR> maps73: look for jdk 5.0 <---it's a java runtime download it
[10:05] <maps73> EvolutionR, ok, I'm trying
[10:06] <EvolutionR> Guys, the Flash Player plugin from firefox 1.0 worked! It just pop up the plugin-search window, download it /install. It worked!
[10:07] <rempresent> i installed bittorrent using synaptic, what is a good client to run my torrents with
[10:07] <rempresent> ?
[10:07] <delltony> doesn't abc work on linux
[10:07] <EvolutionR> Azureus
[10:07] <delltony> havne't tried it yet but when i downloaded it on windows it did
[10:07] <EvolutionR> rempresent : azureus
[10:07] <delltony> said it supported linux
[10:08] <EvolutionR> delltony: why not abc work on linux?
[10:08] <okox> can someone explain me the diference between xfree and xorg ?
[10:09] <EvolutionR> okox: from IMHO, the xfree is old, they make the xorg new :)
[10:09] <EvolutionR> ehhehehe
[10:09] <EvolutionR> am I rite?
[10:09] <okox> jajaja
[10:09] <EvolutionR> LOL
[10:09] <EvolutionR> @_o
[10:09] <okox> thats true bat not all
[10:10] <EvolutionR> if me I prefer Xorg
[10:10] <EvolutionR> have anyone try running Azureus on Hoary????????
[10:10] <okox> today i am going to install xorg
[10:11] <EvolutionR> okox: good for u
[10:11] <farruinn> okox: on warty?
[10:11] <delltony> abc will work on linux i thnk
[10:11] <okox> yes
[10:11] <EvolutionR> delltony: of course it work on linux! :P
[10:12] <delltony> someone asked what a good one was
[10:12] <EvolutionR> delltony: I prefer Azureus!
[10:12] <delltony> yeah same
[10:12] <delltony> but i don't see the i586 install for it
[10:12] <delltony> you have a direct link by chance?
[10:12] <EvolutionR> u download the java azureus
[10:13] <delltony> yeah thats right
[10:13] <delltony> sorry
[10:13] <EvolutionR> go to download page
[10:13] <EvolutionR> :) hahahaha
[10:13] <HappyFool> if it's java, it seems unlike there'll be an arch specific version
[10:13] <EvolutionR> nvm
[10:13] <EvolutionR> anyone install firewall on hoary???
[10:14] <EvolutionR> which one is recommended?
[10:14] <farruinn> isn't firestarter already installed?
[10:15] <EvolutionR> farruinn: I dont know what firewall I have in hoary? cause newbie how to check?
[10:15] <farruinn> check applications>internet>firestarter
[10:15] <EvolutionR> farruinn: there is none of it there!
[10:16] <EvolutionR> I dont think firestater come with it? am I rite anybody?
[10:16] <farruinn> sounds it, I must have installed it here myself
[10:16] <EvolutionR> farruinn: :)
[10:16] <EvolutionR> is it gui mode?
[10:17] <ubuntu> which package do i have to download to watch divx in totem movie player?
[10:17] <EvolutionR> ubuntu: I think the w32 condecs...package!
[10:17] <farruinn> EvolutionR: yeah, I like it
[10:18] <EvolutionR> farruinn: wats the website?
[10:18] <HappyFool> ubuntu: you can try checking out ubuntuguide.org -- i'm not sure if they mention divx specifically
[10:18] <farruinn> EvolutionR: have you used apt?? run sudo apt-get install firestarter from a terminal
[10:18] <farruinn> or use synaptic if you prefer that
[10:18] <delltony> evol: is azureus site not responding for you?
[10:18] <EvolutionR> farruinn: I use apt-get for upgrading to hoary :) but not tat expert on using it!
[10:19] <farruinn> ubuntu: I think divx is address on the restrictedformats wikipage
[10:19] <EvolutionR> farruinn: that's y I like apt-get :)
[10:19] <farruinn> EvolutionR: ah, well it's best to use apt/synaptic so that you get the updates
[10:19] <farruinn> not to mention avoid breakage...
[10:20] <EvolutionR> farruinn: I seldom use synaptic anymore...if can I use apt-get better
[10:20] <EvolutionR> :)
[10:20] <syn-ack> apt is all things good and holy.
[10:21] <farruinn> dpkg is really what makes ubuntu beautiful, apt is just a pretty face that gets all the attention :p
[10:21] <EvolutionR> farruinn: u run java on Hoary?
[10:21] <farruinn> EvolutionR: I don't have java and I don't have hoary :/
[10:21] <EvolutionR> u on warthy!
[10:21] <EvolutionR> :)
[10:21] <EvolutionR> I wonder anyone here use Azureus Java client on Ubuntu dist?
[10:22] <okox> EvolutionR, to use azureus first jre must beinstalled
[10:22] <EvolutionR> farruinn: I just installed the firestater through the apt-get, it was few secs...that's kewl!!!!!
[10:23] <rempresent> ok, sorry, i got booted, what is a great, GREAT bittorrent client for debian
[10:23] <EvolutionR> okox: I've jre installed..but haven't install azureus yet :) but later on...I've got alot of things on yet install "multimedia" packages!
[10:24] <syn-ack> rempresent, this isnt a Debian channel...
[10:24] <okox> an whats the problem of azureus
[10:24] <EvolutionR> rempresent: u using Azureus now???? on warthy/hoary?
[10:24] <rempresent> sorry, but what i can use for ubuntu
[10:24] <rempresent> sorry
[10:24] <rempresent> no
[10:24] <rempresent> i just installed bittorrent using synaptic and i am trying to find a bittorrent client
[10:25] <rempresent> i need to get the latest episode of smallville
[10:25] <farruinn> rempresent: do a apt-cache search bittorrent | grep client
[10:25] <EvolutionR> u install bittorrent and u want to find a bittorent client wat u mean?
[10:25] <EvolutionR> ahhh just go to Azureus if not bitcomet!
[10:26] <delltony> EvolutionR: sorrry to say i don't see the azureus build for i586 you said use java well all i see is install the java runtime i need the aruzeus install
[10:26] <rempresent> yeah, there are bittorrent clients that you can use to manage all of your bittorrent files... some say that azureus is good, some say others are good, i was just trying to get some of your input
[10:26] <EvolutionR> delltony: :) is up to u
[10:26] <rempresent> i just installed the base program that they run on
[10:26] <delltony> what you mean?
[10:26] <delltony> i know it runs off java
[10:26] <delltony> but wheres the install if i already have java
[10:26] <delltony> all i see is gtk
[10:27] <EvolutionR> so far I've tested the bitcomet, dont like it slow downloads, but with azureus my downloads improve
[10:27] <delltony> is that the one i need linux gtk?
[10:27] <EvolutionR> delltony: is easy Azureus no need to install
[10:27] <delltony> no need to isntall what
[10:28] <delltony> you have to install something to get azureus to run dude :)
[10:28] <EvolutionR> u just make a launcher point to the /azureus/   azureus.bin thing
[10:28] <delltony> i understand
[10:28] <delltony> but which azurues file
[10:28] <delltony> there are seveal
[10:28] <delltony> several even
[10:28] <EvolutionR> ok ok
[10:28] <EvolutionR> I forgot the name
[10:28] <EvolutionR> but I think is azureus
[10:29] <EvolutionR> try double click
[10:29] <EvolutionR> wait
[10:29] <EvolutionR> let me download the azureus
[10:29] <EvolutionR> I teach u
[10:30] <rempresent> yeah, teach us how to install azureus from start to finish
[10:30] <EvolutionR> wait downloading
[10:31] <EvolutionR> but first u must have jre install
[10:31] <ChaosZ3RO> I just installed warty. How do I get into root?
[10:31] <delltony> dude repeat after me :)
[10:31] <delltony> i have java installed :)
[10:31] <delltony> :p
[10:31] <rempresent> what is the file called and how do i install that?  can i use apt-get
[10:32] <delltony> well i think its gtk
[10:32] <EvolutionR> okie u got the azureus ?
[10:32] <syn-ack> ChaosZ3RO, You use sudo
[10:32] <EvolutionR> well good rite use gtk
[10:32] <rempresent> how do i use gtk?
[10:33] <EvolutionR> at the azureus download page (linux gtk version)
[10:33] <ChaosZ3RO> It never let me set a password for root.
[10:33] <Agrajag> ChaosZ3RO: ubuntu uses sudo
[10:33] <Agrajag> you use your own user's password
[10:33] <EvolutionR> wait I'm downloading the Azureues GTK
[10:33] <rempresent> i downloaded the gtk version of azureus
[10:33] <Agrajag> sudo <command> will run a command as root
[10:33] <Agrajag> sudo -s will start a root shell
[10:34] <ChaosZ3RO> ahhh, okay. Thanks.
[10:34] <delltony> remp are you on a pc
[10:34] <EvolutionR> have u extract them from the tar package?
[10:34] <delltony> as in i386?
[10:34] <delltony> or 586
[10:34] <delltony> if so download the gtk file
[10:34] <rempresent> yah
[10:34] <rempresent> i need to get the java run time environment
[10:34] <delltony> type tar xvjf A and hit tab
[10:34] <EvolutionR> I'm extracting the tar
[10:34] <delltony> it will complete the rest for Au for you
[10:35] <delltony> once extracted
[10:35] <delltony> cd /azureus
[10:35] <rempresent> a i386
[10:35] <delltony> let me know when it extracts
[10:35] <EvolutionR> it's tar -xjvf
[10:35] <delltony> you don't need the -
[10:35] <Xyverz> what is the multiverse repository and how does it differ from the universe and main repositories?
[10:35] <Agrajag> multiverse has nonfree software
[10:36] <rempresent> how do i install the java run time environment
[10:36] <Xyverz> and universe?
[10:36] <rempresent> lets figure that out first
[10:36] <Xyverz> that's just a bunch of extra stuff?
[10:36] <Agrajag> universe has free software that is not supported by ubuntu
[10:36] <delltony> use the ubuntuguide.org
[10:36] <Xyverz> Aaaaaah
[10:36] <delltony> on installing java that method worked for me
[10:36] <Xyverz> gotcha
[10:36] <Xyverz> thx
[10:37] <EvolutionR> delltony: okie try go to azurues folder that u have just extracted
[10:37] <ChaosZ3RO> Only other thing that doesn't seem to be working is sound. How do I set that up?
[10:37] <EvolutionR> look for azureus
[10:37] <delltony> dude i already have it installed
[10:37] <delltony> you were too slow :)
[10:38] <EvolutionR> delltony: so is easy rite?
[10:39] <EvolutionR> who said there's alot of azureus
[10:39] <EvolutionR> ehhehe
[10:39] <delltony> there isn't i just din't remember the right file
[10:39] <EvolutionR> u run ./azureus or tru launcher?
[10:39] <EvolutionR> if me I put at the launcher easy for me
[10:40] <EvolutionR> delltony: well! u teach the rempresent how to run it :)
[10:40] <delltony> has he got java installed yet
[10:41] <delltony> that page i told him works
[10:41] <delltony> has worked on 2 installed of ubuntu i have done
[10:41] <EvolutionR> delltony: how u run ur azurues?
[10:41] <delltony> setting up the launcher now
[10:41] <delltony> but otherwise i do azureus &
[10:41] <delltony> in terminal
[10:42] <EvolutionR> yeah that's rite
[10:43] <EvolutionR> delltony: I saw in the Azureus folder, only root can use all the files from within?
[10:45] <delltony> why you say only root can you just type ./azurues in the dir
[10:45] <delltony> and it s hould work
[10:46] <EvolutionR> delltony: I want it on the launcher
[10:46] <EvolutionR> I lazy to type
[10:46] <EvolutionR> I think have to chmod 777
[10:46] <EvolutionR> ehhehee
[10:46] <jeavis> h
[10:46] <jeavis> hi
[10:47] <jeavis> somebody can help me
[10:47] <EvolutionR> delltony: how to give all 777 to the Azureus files?
[10:48] <delltony> sudo chmod 777 the directory
[10:49] <delltony> but you don't need to
[10:49] <jeavis> somebody from mexico
[10:49] <EvolutionR> not the direc the files is lock
[10:49] <EvolutionR> I want to add to normal user permissions
[10:51] <EvolutionR> delltony: I think the java thing not running....
[10:51] <delltony> test it
[10:51] <EvolutionR> I've suppected it from just now I installed the jre
[10:52] <EvolutionR> delltony: Starting Azureus...
[10:52] <EvolutionR> Java exec not found in PATH, starting auto-search...
[10:52] <EvolutionR> Java exec found in  /usr/java/jre1.5.0_01/bin/
[10:52] <EvolutionR> OOPS, you don't seem to have a valid JRE  [/usr/java/jre1.5.0_01/bin/java = Error]
[10:52] <EvolutionR> You need to upgrade to JRE 1.4.x or newer from http://java.sun.com
[10:52] <EvolutionR> I do have jre
[10:52] <EvolutionR> installed
[10:53] <EvolutionR> is on this location /usr/java/jre1.5.0_01/bin
[10:53] <delltony> you might have installed but its not working
[10:53] <delltony> did you test to see if it installed
[10:53] <delltony> with like testjava on suns page
[10:53] <EvolutionR> yeah can u help me I'm having trouble with this java running on ubuntu
[10:53] <EvolutionR> which url
[10:54] <delltony> dude you too rempresent
[10:54] <delltony> go to that link www.ubuntuguide.org
[10:54] <delltony> do a find for java
[10:54] <delltony> and follow ALL  the diretions on it
[10:54] <EvolutionR> delltony: u use warthy or hoary?
[10:55] <EvolutionR> maybe cant run on hoary?
[10:55] <delltony> warty
[10:55] <EvolutionR> that's y
[10:55] <EvolutionR> :(
[10:55] <EvolutionR> delltony: from the above statement I've posted just now...how come they did not find the java bin?
[10:56] <EvolutionR> I've loook at it is at /usr/java/jre1.5.0_01/bin
[10:56] <EvolutionR> exactly
[10:57] <EvolutionR> ohno! I think java cant be run oh Hoary versions !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[10:57] <EvolutionR> Arggggggg
[10:57] <defile> EvolutionR, so far, so good
[10:57] <EvolutionR> have to use other bit client
[10:57] <EvolutionR> defile: nice rite?
[10:57] <Hwolf> EvolutionR, you can run it, definatly
[10:58] <EvolutionR> defile: congrats!
[10:58] <EvolutionR> Hwolf: why I cant run the java thing?
[10:58] <EvolutionR> I've installed it
[11:00] <Hwolf> EvoltionR, how should I know, you don't give any info, do you?
[11:00] <EvolutionR> Hwolf: Java exec not found in PATH, starting auto-search...
 Java exec found in  /usr/java/jre1.5.0_01/bin/
 OOPS, you don't seem to have a valid JRE  [/usr/java/jre1.5.0_01/bin/java = Error]
 You need to upgrade to JRE 1.4.x or newer from http://java.sun.com
[11:01] <twstd3bc> is kernel 2.6.10 used on the hoary live CDs?
[11:01] <haggai> ironwolf: DEB_BUILD_OPTIONS=jdkhome=/path/to/jdk debuild -b -us -uc
[11:02] <twstd3bc> is kernel 2.6.10 used on the hoary live CDs?
[11:03] <EvolutionR> hahhaha Hwolf quits
[11:04] <EvolutionR> I think he cant answer my questions on java thing
[11:04] <EvolutionR> ahhaha
[11:04] <EvolutionR> l)
[11:05] <bur[n] er> have any of you used graveman??
[11:06] <EvolutionR> I've just apt-get install firestarter successfully. But I dont know where to run it?
[11:07] <EvolutionR> dellton: u use firestarter?
[11:07] <rempresent> how do i find my ip address using the terminal
[11:07] <rempresent> ?
[11:07] <Agrajag> ifconfig
[11:07] <EvolutionR> dellton: u there?
[11:08] <EvolutionR> want to ask
[11:08] <EvolutionR> u
[11:08] <EvolutionR> rempresent maybe ifconfig eth0
[11:08] <EvolutionR> or ifconfig
[11:09] <rempresent> ok, i am using azureus and i just port forwarded the ports so that i can use bittorrent with the range values of 6881-6889 and i am still getting a NAT error...
[11:10] <rempresent> anyone
[11:10] <laurens_> Note to self
[11:10] <laurens_> when planning to update to Hoary, DO NOT TELL INSTALL TO DOWNLOAD FILES
[11:10] <laurens_> Wasted a lot of time that way ;-)
[11:10] <laurens_> Need to get 438MB of archives.
[11:11] <racoontje> Does anyone know wether archive.ubuntu.com is a single server or a pool of servers?
[11:11] <racoontje> Because I'm getting really great speeds on it
[11:11] <rempresent> one more time, can anyone help with the following
[11:11] <rempresent>  ok, i am using azureus and i just port forwarded the ports so that i can use bittorrent with the range values of 6881-6889 and i am still getting a NAT error...
[11:13] <Joe2> Hiya peeps, I just installed k3b and however it thinks my CDRW drive is only a cdrom, how do ya correct that?
[11:13] <FallenHitokiri> Joe2: start it as root
[11:14] <Joe2> bah stupid me :P
[11:16] <delltony> how you make a launcher for a script that requires ./ infront of it?
[11:16] <FallenHitokiri> delltony: you just can add the script to a dir in your path or edit you path
[11:16] <delltony> aww there it goes
[11:16] <FallenHitokiri> for example /bin
[11:17] <delltony> yeah thats what i had
[11:17] <delltony> just wasn't workin for somereason
[11:17] <delltony> then i realize i had a typo
[11:17] <delltony> good deal
[11:17] <delltony> now i can go to bed haha
[11:21] <defile> mmmmmmmmm, Hoary
[11:21] <brc_> yup
[11:21] <delltony> whats  good cd/dvd burning program for linux?
[11:21] <Joe2> delltony: k3b
[11:22] <delltony> good deal thanks is that in universe?
[11:22] <Joe2> should be
[11:22] <brc_> yup
[11:22] <Joe2> When is hoary due to be released btw?
[11:22] <brc_> WhenIt'sReady(TM)
[11:23] <Joe2> Also seeing as ubuntu is based on testing/unstable well apparently debian are almost ready to make unstable as their new stable so will ubuntu end up based on stable or wait for the new testing?
[11:23] <blackstar> hey guys i have a problem if anyone care to help
[11:23] <blackstar> i cant get my soundcard to work
[11:24] <blackstar> it is a 16 bit sound blaster compatible card
[11:24] <blackstar> sound blaster pro to be exact
[11:24] <delltony> hey joe whats it mean by chance when it says can't do stats in synamptic does that mean one of my sources is typed wrong or what?
[11:25] <BenZ|iBook> ewhats some cool software for linux
[11:25] <Joe2> dunno delltony, I have only been using linux for a couple of months
[11:25] <Joe2> maybe someone else here knows tho
[11:25] <delltony> its all good i'm new too
[11:25] <brc_> what's the error?
[11:26] <delltony> hang on
[11:26] <brc_> do       apt-get update
[11:26] <delltony>  Couldn't stat source package list http://www.os-cillation.de binary/ Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/www.os-cillation.de_debian_binary_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)
[11:27] <brc_> that looks invalid
[11:27] <brc_> open /etc/apt/sources.list and tell me what the line is for that entry
[11:27] <racoontje> delltony, trying for xfce4.2?
[11:27] <racoontje> But gnome is so nice!
[11:27] <delltony> ok let me look
[11:28] <Joe2> btw /dev/hdc        /media/cdrom0   udf,iso9660 user,unhide,ro,noauto  0       0 <------- is that right for a cdrw, its exactly the same as the entry for my cdrom?
[11:28] <racoontje> plus remember the os-cillation debs suck, unless you speak german and are madly in love with their livecd
[11:28] <racoontje> [advertising everywhere]
[11:28] <brc_> Joe2, dunno, but ro means read only...might be wrong...is it not working?
[11:29] <delltony> deb http://www.os-cillation.de/debian/ binary/
[11:29] <delltony> deb-src http://www.os-cillation.de/debian/ source/
[11:29] <Joe2> well I went to copy a cd in k3b and it moans because the cd im recording to is empty
[11:29] <BenZ|iBook> are there any aussie mirrors of ubuntu that actually work?
[11:29] <EvolutionR> gtg guys bye!
[11:29] <delltony> just comment it out?
[11:29] <brc_> delltony, have you tried apt-get update? same error?
[11:30] <delltony> yeah thats when it started when i updated
[11:30] <brc_> well, I assume you added that repository for a reason?
[11:30] <brc_> if you don't need it, sure
[11:30] <delltony> well i just copped it from my desktop
[11:30] <brc_> eh?
[11:30] <delltony> nothing
[11:31] <Ecio> hi all, i've installed hoary but cant get to install gstreamer0.8-mad (yes, i added universe to apt sources). any idea? i got a msg about libid3tag0 and libmad0 not installable
[11:31] <brc_> OK
[11:31] <brc_> what's the exact error
[11:32] <delltony> do you run k3b as root?
[11:32] <Ecio> gstreamer0.8-mad depends on libid3tag0 (>=0.15.0b) but not installable (that's the rough translation, the msg is in italian)
[11:32] <racoontje> Does Ubuntu have a userlist? Would seem nice to have lots of ubuntu users to IM with :-)
[11:32] <delltony> and that fixed the problem by the way
[11:32] <delltony> with the commenting otu
[11:33] <brc_> Ecio, apt-get install libid3tag0
[11:33] <Ecio> brc: i tried, doesnt work
[11:33] <brc_> k
[11:33] <Ecio> not available
[11:33] <brc_> aha
[11:33] <brc_> try adding multiverse
[11:33] <Ecio> k i try
[11:33] <brc_> if that doesn't make it work, go ask google for a repository that has libid3tag0
[11:34] <BenZ|iBook> Helloooo any working repositories in AU
[11:34] <brc_> BenZ|iBook, ihnfi
[11:35] <racoontje> When updating from Warty to Hoary, I keep getting errors similar to these: python-foo: Depends: python (< 2.4) but 2.4-0ubuntu4 is to be installed
[11:35] <racoontje> replace foo with random things
[11:35] <Ecio> brc updating...
[11:35] <Ecio> same error, i'll look for it on google
[11:36] <BenZ|iBook> |||||||||||||||
[11:36] <brc_> Ecio, if you can't find any info on a repository that has it, but you find a .deb file, you can just install it manually
[11:36] <brc_> dpkg -i /path/to/libid3tag0.deb
[11:37] <Ecio> brc: but doesnt it sound strange? that mad has this broken dependency?
[11:37] <brc_> yes
[11:37] <brc_> it does
[11:37] <brc_> but I'm too tired to try it out right now
[11:37] <brc_> sorry
[11:37] <Ecio> :)
[11:37] <Ecio> np
[11:38] <BenZ|iBook> how do i output /dev/kcore to /dev/audio? :p
[11:38] <rempresent> alright
[11:38] <rempresent> i need to mount my winders harddrive and get some files off of it for linux...
[11:38] <rempresent> can anyone help me with that
[11:38] <defile> anybody know how to get mp3's to play in nautilus on mouse over?
[11:38] <Ecio> rempresent if you use C: on 1st hd it should be mkdir /mnt/diskC
[11:39] <delltony> man how do you setup root for k3b
[11:39] <Ecio> and sudo mount /dev/hda1 /mnt/diskC
[11:39] <Ecio> something like this
[11:39] <Joe2> delltony just run it by using: sudo k3b
[11:39] <delltony> oh you have to use sudo on it
[11:39] <brc_> rempresent, look at  http://www.ubuntuguide.org/
[11:39] <delltony> ok i was wondering
[11:39] <Joe2> yuppers
[11:39] <brc_> rempresent, that's got everything you need
[11:39] <delltony> can you do that in a laucnher though
[11:39] <Joe2> damn I gtg, cya peeps
[11:40] <delltony> sorry i'm new to gnome i was using flux for a while
[11:40] <Ecio> brc: perhaps i found the problem: it looks like i enabled universe and multiverse but disabled main repository :D
[11:40] <brc_> ha
[11:40] <brc_> BWHAHHAHAHAHAHahhahAHHA
[11:40] <brc_> :)
[11:40] <brc_> I thought that sounded weird
[11:41] <brc_> nah
[11:41] <brc_> I've done worse
[11:41] <Ecio> ok now rhythmbox is doing his nasty job :D
[11:42] <_4strO> yop yop
[11:43] <Ecio> well.. i talked too early
[11:43] <Ecio> rhythmbox loads mp3 and start playing, but no sound... in the volume mixer i see 2 (?!?) cards on my laptop
[11:44] <Ecio> one cirrus logic (oss) the other intel (alsa)
[11:44] <Ecio> of course none of them seem to work :D
[11:45] <spiral> hi
[11:52] <raphael74> hi how is it going?
[11:52] <racoontje> raphael74, fine, thanks
[11:52] <racoontje> you?
[11:52] <raphael74> good thanks racoontje
[11:53] <raphael74> I am new to Ubuntu. I was quite impressed to start with
[11:53] <raphael74> until some glitches occures
[11:53] <raphael74> until some glitches occured
[11:53] <raphael74> I hope the next version will be a bit more polished
[11:54] <racoontje> raphael74, glitches?
[11:55] <racoontje> raphael74, in warty or in hoary
[11:55] <will> ahh my whole sound system is playing everything at twice the speed!
[11:55] <raphael74> yeah... It's all under control but I had a few issues
[11:55] <racoontje> raphael74, in warty or in hoary
[11:55] <raphael74> the main one is that I use a french keyboard yet I want my locale to be in english
[11:55] <raphael74> in warty
[11:55] <racoontje> raphael74, locale as in language?
[11:55] <raphael74> and the default keyboard became english
[11:55] <raphael74> yes racoontje
[11:56] <racoontje> raphael74, that's totally possible, just set location to english/us and set keymap to latin1
[11:56] <racoontje> ehh
[11:56] <racoontje> azerty/fr...
[11:56] <Ecio> i dont know how/why, but now sound is working :)
[11:56] <raphael74> racoontje, its all fixed now but I call it a glitch that it was not done automatically as during the install I did select the french keyboard
[11:57] <racoontje> raphael74, was the keyboard in french mode in console?
[11:57] <racoontje> I used a Belgian (too, Azerty) keyboard for one of my installs, and it worked fine in both console and gnome
[11:58] <raphael74> racoontje, mmmm I am not sure. but which kind of language did you select for the installation? Did you select french or english
[11:58] <raphael74> I suspect that's were the issue came from
[11:58] <rempresent> what is a good player for .avi files
[11:58] <will> well  my whole sound system is playing everything at twice the speed!
[11:58] <rempresent> ?
[11:58] <will> rempresent wxvlc is nice
[11:59] <steve> ?
[11:59] <rempresent> thaks
[11:59] <raphael74> the second glitch was that I tried to install a printer using the gui and the only thing I could do was to print the test page. Then I reinstalled the printer using the web interface of cups and it worked ok
[12:04] <Ecio> i see a "show updates" in my ubuntu-hoary... if i click it asks for the password, i enter it but it doesnt happen anything
[12:05] <Simira> Ecio: then you probably have no updates?
[12:05] <Martok> Anybody know how to disable a few sounds instead of disabling them all?
[12:06] <Ecio> simira: err pausing with mouse on the icon i see "there are 156 updates" :D
[12:06] <Aurel_> hello everyone
[12:06] <Martok> Hello
[12:06] <Ecio> "install updates" works... im running it... just "show updates" doesnt work... :)
[12:06] <Martok> I guess I could just rename the sounds...
[12:06] <will> hi any one know anything about the whole sound system playing at around twice the normal speed?
[12:07] <Martok> I've had that happen to me, but I couldn't figure out why.
[12:07] <lifeless> mdz: ping
[12:08] <raphael74> i'm back
[12:11] <Hwolf> I'd like to move my /var. Any idea how I'd do that?
[12:13] <Frossi> I?m having a problem with my usb network card. Ubuntu recognizes it as AX88172 which is correct. But how can I get it working, my goal is to get it work as my home networkcard so that eth0 is routed to that. I think u know what I mean
[12:15] <will> Martok: what did you do?
[12:18] <KING^^^> hello all
[12:19] <nir> hmm, If I run ab -c 100 and both cpus are 100% used, the inteface become not responsive
[12:19] <nir> maybe I should try the preemeted kernel option?
[12:20] <nir> this does not happen with OS X on same hardware, same load
[12:20] <KING^^^> i have a problem , after when i have installed windows again , after i have restarted my computer i couldn't boot ubuntu again, i can't choose between linux or winodws , it starts windows directly , what should I do ?
[12:21] <KING^^^> so ... can anyone help me ?
[12:22] <Hwolf> G'day
[12:22] <Ng> KING^^^: sounds like you need to reinstall grub - have you got the live CD? you could use that to do it
[12:22] <runenes> KING^^^, you need to run grub-install from a live-cd / linux boot disk
[12:22] <KING^^^> live cd or install cd ?
[12:23] <runenes> live cd - I dont think the ubuntu install cd has those capabilities
[12:23] <Martok> How can I find a list of packages recently removed?
[12:23] <KING^^^> i have tried to do that , but when i boot from install cd it starts to install ubuntu again
[12:24] <Ng> Martok: you can't really afaik. you can get a partial list with "dpkg -l | grep -v ^ii"
[12:24] <KING^^^> but my ubuntu linux is installed , so do you suggest to boot from a live cd ?
[12:24] <runenes> KING^^^, yes you need knoppix or something like that - knoppix will do fine
[12:25] <Lathiat> runenes: the ubuntu live cd would work fine too...
[12:25] <KING^^^> ok ... i`ll try, be right back with problem fixed i hope
[12:25] <runenes> Lathiat, all right, but you cant do it from the install cd can you?
[12:25] <Martok> Ng: Thanks, that did the trick I think.
[12:26] <EvolutionR> anyone have not bittorent client NAT error?
[12:27] <raphael74> I have a question: why is a program like mplayer not included by default with ubuntu?
[12:28] <raphael74> EvolutionR, what is the exact kind of error that you get? And how do u connect to the internet?
[12:28] <Hwolf> raphael74: legal issues
[12:28] <markrez> Hi all
[12:28] <raphael74> Hwolf, I suspected so but then everything is available for download on the net from the mplayer website anyway
[12:28] <runenes> raphael74, they could strip it down to only legal code, but then it wouldnt have any better capabilities then the other media players
[12:29] <runenes> whatever legal code means :)
[12:29] <raphael74> Hwolf, runenes : do we know what are the legal issues or is that just by fear that the package is not included?
[12:29] <EvolutionR> raphael74: I'm getting this error on Azureus "NAT" throug my DSL modem port forwarding 6889, installed firestarter too, but I put my Networking info as 10.0.0x subnet: <IP_ADDRESS> gateway: is my dsl modem
[12:29] <EvolutionR> using PPPoEconf
[12:30] <Hwolf> raphael74: mplayer uses non-free /copyrighted stuff
[12:30] <runenes> raphael74, with mplayer theres a lot - mostly codecs, but Im sure theres some dvd patens as well
[12:30] <Lathiat> EvolutionR: you want to forward 6881 not 6889
[12:30] <Hwolf> EvolutionR: I warned you about rpppoe, didn't I? *smile*
[12:30] <Lathiat> EvolutionR: or change the port azureus is configured to use to 6889 (its 6881 by default)
[12:31] <EvolutionR> I've change the azureus port to 6889
[12:31] <raphael74> Hwolf, is it a fact though?
[12:31] <EvolutionR> I use this settings thru other OS okie
[12:31] <markrez> I have a question about shared libraries error when running etherape
[12:31] <Hwolf> rapheal74, yes
[12:31] <EvolutionR> how to setup the firestarter to allow bittorent?
[12:31] <Lathiat> EvolutionR: wtf is firestarter
[12:31] <raphael74> Hwolf, do u know where i could find more info about this?
[12:32] <EvolutionR> firewall man
[12:32] <Lathiat> go read its documentation then
[12:32] <Lathiat> never heard of it
[12:32] <EvolutionR> nvm!
[12:32] <EvolutionR> bye
[12:33] <Hwolf> rapael74, google?
[12:33] <markrez> tried that
[12:33] <will> any one know anything about the whole sound system playing at around twice the normal speed?
[12:33] <markrez> /usr/bin/etherape: error while loading shared libraries: liblinc.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file o
[12:34] <runenes> raphael74, if you want to install mplayer with all the cool codecs, then I would recomend this howto http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=9850
[12:35] <will> can anyonea help me?
[12:35] <will> any one know anything about the whole sound system playing at around twice the normal speed?
[12:35] <markrez> the same thing happens when trying to run iseries emulator
[12:35] <raphael74> runenes, thanks - i have done so but i find it a pain
[12:35] <markrez> error while loading shared libraries: libXm.so.3: cannot open shared object file: No such file or director
[12:36] <markrez> what libraries is it looking for?
[12:36] <rempresent> i was trying to install flash for mozilla and i got this error
[12:36] <rempresent> root@ubuntu:/home/rempresent # sudo apt-get install flashplayer-mozilla
[12:36] <rempresent> Reading Package Lists... Done
[12:36] <rempresent> Building Dependency Tree... Done
[12:36] <rempresent> E: Couldn't find package flashplayer-mozill
[12:36] <rempresent> anyone help?
[12:36] <rempresent> and  yes, i did type mozilla right
[12:36] <KING^^^> i didn't make it ...
[12:37] <KING^^^> there is no installing grub
[12:37] <KING^^^> :(
[12:37] <Ecio_updating> rem: i suppose you need to add universe repository
[12:37] <KING^^^> what do i do ?
[12:37] <rempresent> i did that already
[12:37] <Ecio_updating> http://www.ubuntuguide.org/#flash-mozilla
[12:37] <raphael74> rempresent, have you got all the sources specified in the unofficial guide in your apt.sources file?
[12:37] <KING^^^> runenes
[12:39] <KING^^^> someone pls help me
[12:39] <klaym> is there somewhere a 'startup' folder for applications to be run on gnome startup?
[12:39] <runenes> KING^^^, after you have booted the live-cd you open a terminal - mount the ubuntu partition and..
[12:40] <KING^^^> and ... ?
[12:40] <runenes> KING^^^, ANYONE - do you need to chroot in or can you run grub-install and specify the menu-lst file used?
[12:41] <rempresent> thanks
[12:41] <theine> are there any plans to include esound clients into supported
[12:41] <theine> ?
[12:42] <delltony> isn't there a ubuntu deb file to upgrade firefox to 1.0 and if so where cna i find this please
[12:42] <rempresent> when i copy things from my winders partition, i have them all locked and you need to manually go to the properties to change the folder permissions, is there a faster way
[12:42] <theine> delltony: if you don't want to upgrade to Hoary yet, you can use Ubuntu backports
[12:43] <delltony> is warty being outdated or something?
[12:43] <nir> anyone had bad results with kernel <IP_ADDRESS> and CONFIG_PREEMPT option?
[12:43] <mst> ummm... how do I get the gnome terminal to stop responding to alt-something hotkeys?
[12:43] <mst> it really annoys me when I work in the console
[12:43] <runenes> KING^^^, ok.. I know it will work if you chroot, so type "chroot /your/mounted/ubuntupartition /bin/bash", then cd grub-install /dev/UBUNTU_PARTITION-DEVICE.. I think that will do it
[12:43] <theine> delltony: no, but development went on after Warty was released
[12:44] <delltony> ok
[12:44] <theine> http://ubuntu-bp.sourceforge.net/
[12:45] <runenes> KING^^^, of course you have to replace /your/mounted/ubuntupartition and UBUNTU_PARTITION-DEVICE with their real values - and UBUNTU_PARTITION-DEVICE really means the hardrive device you installed ubuntu to.. I explain poorly :)
[12:46] <gangalino> how do I remove software?
[12:47] <racoontje> why are [reiserfs/reiser4/xfs] progs installed when I'm running ext3?
[12:48] <KING^^^> runenes i think i get it ... thanks
[12:49] <mst> racoontje, why not, do they disturb you at night when you sleep?
[12:49] <runenes> racoontje, so you can easily communicate with those fs's
[12:50] <runenes> KING^^^, I see that I typed "cd grub-install..." leave the cd out of course - I just woke up :)
[12:50] <SirFred> Hi.
[12:50] <KING^^^> no problem runenes
[12:51] <klaym> should I install something like xine before I can view videos on totem?
[12:51] <klaym> I've installed gstreamer and w32codecs already
[12:52] <SirFred> klaym: Perhaps you could try totem-xine
[12:52] <SirFred> klaym: I have had a very bad experience with totem (the gstreamer based version)
[12:52] <klaym> SirFred: ok thanks
[12:52] <SirFred> klaym: np
[12:53] <SirFred> Lately my evolution under Hoary has lost it's spanish localization, is that a known problem?
[12:53] <SirFred> Well, I can live with it.
[12:55] <runenes> SirFred, what do you mean lately - is it something which has happened over time :)
[12:56] <okox> SirFred, yes but better in spanish
[12:56] <SirFred> runenes: Yes.
[12:56] <okox> have you tried to locate
[12:56] <okox> or install the spanish warthy paket ?
[12:57] <SirFred> runenes: After an upgrade, it was in english, the again in spanish, and now in english. Perhaps that's not the right sequence, but something so.
[12:57] <SirFred> okox: I'm on hoary.
[12:57] <klaym> my finnish version of warty is half finnish half swedish
[12:57] <okox> but you can try the spanish language pakage from warthy , isnt it ?
[12:58] <SirFred> okox: Well, I'd rather not mix packages from hoary and warthy.
[12:58] <SirFred> okox: Thanks anyway
[12:58] <okox> spanish & english in warthy
[12:59] <markrez> anyone use the citrix ica client, mine isnt working correctly
[12:59] <runenes> SirFred, ok I understand - I though it slowly forgot its spanish - thanks for the laugh anyway
[12:59] <okox> i am going to install xorg in warthy , only the xorg...
[12:59] <SirFred> runenes: :)
[12:59] <okox> will the warthy work properly ?
[01:00] <SirFred> runenes: English is not my nature language.
[01:00] <okox> i wish that
[01:00] <okox> es espaol
[01:00] <okox> xD
[01:00] <SirFred> okox: :)
[01:01] <okox> you could enter in ubuntu-es and ask there if someone has solved that
[01:01] <SirFred> okox: Well, last time i entered ubuntu-es... how should I say it
[01:01] <SirFred> okox: Too few people, talking about everything but ubuntu.
[01:01] <okox> what ?
[01:02] <SirFred> okox: I didn't like it.
[01:02] <okox> try at ubuntu in hispano servers
[01:02] <yuri> I just installed ubuntu and I am running 1024x768. I am almost certain that my graphics support resolutions higher than that. (1) How do I figure if it does indeed support higher resolutions? (2) How do I increase the resolutio considering that the max resolution in the "Screen Resolution" tool is 1024?
[01:02] <SirFred> okox: Oh, I haven't been at hispano servers for years.
[01:02] <SirFred> okox: I remember how the #linux channel was worse and worse .
[01:02] <okox> i have been at hispano servers for years xD
[01:03] <okox> worse ?
[01:03] <SirFred> okox: At the beginning, four or five years ago, it was fine. The #debian channel was great.
[01:03] <okox> its too general that channel
[01:03] <okox> in debian there is much people
[01:03] <SirFred> okox: Yes, even thinking that it's about #linux.
[01:03] <okox> there are much "genius" peolpe
[01:03] <SirFred> okox: Well, it used to be 30 or 40 people when I was there.
[01:04] <SirFred> okox: Potato days I think.
[01:04] <Hwolf> I followed the thumb buttuns howto, but now my forward-backward buttons scroll, and my mouswheel does backward-forward
[01:04] <okox> jaj
[01:04] <okox> a
[01:04] <SirFred> okox: It was like a club.
[01:05] <okox> in ubuntu of hispano are few people but a good atmosphere
[01:05] <SirFred> okox: THanks, perhaps some day.
[01:05] <KING^^^> runenes in doesn't work grub-install
[01:06] <marcin_ant> hi - guys I would like to ask what is preferred procedure to setup network connections in ubuntu
[01:07] <marcin_ant> I have some special needs - I got a notebook with nic, modem and gprs modem
[01:07] <rempresent> here is a question for you, how do i completely shut down my system...
[01:07] <rempresent> ?
[01:07] <jkka> sudo shutdown -h now
[01:07] <alemao> hello :)
[01:07] <marcin_ant> and I want to configure this to use lan when it is available but when it isn't i want this to connect to internet via gprs connection
[01:07] <rempresent> when i chose shut down, it doesn't shut down, it just turns off the operating system with the machine on
[01:08] <Aurel_> rempresent, type halt when root
[01:08] <marcin_ant> how to do this?
[01:08] <alemao> hey! How do I get GNOME entirely installed?! package "gnome-core" and "gnome" does not exists!
[01:08] <rempresent> ok thanks
[01:08] <SirFred> rempresent: It says 'Power off' on the screen but it doesn't power off actually?
[01:08] <yuri> I just installed ubuntu and I am running 1024x768. I am almost certain that my graphics support resolutions higher than that. (1) How do I figure if it does indeed support higher resolutions? (2) How do I increase the resolutio considering that the max resolution in the "Screen Resolution" tool is 1024?
[01:09] <SirFred> yuri: It seems to be a matter of X configuration.
[01:09] <SirFred> yuri: Perhaps your monitor is missdetected and the resolution are cutted down.
[01:09] <alemao> yuri /etc/X11/xorg.conf where you find 1024x768 put a higher before
[01:09] <llpamies> I'm trying to compile simias (ifolder) in ubuntu but it doesn't find '-lstdc++'
[01:09] <llpamies> in wich package can i found it
[01:10] <alemao> is there a package which installs gnome entirely?
[01:10] <SirFred> llpamies: libstdc++5
[01:10] <alemao> llpamies: apt-cache search lstdc++
[01:11] <SirFred> alemao: Perhaps ubuntu-desktop ?
[01:11] <SirFred> alemao: It's dependence list is awesome
[01:12] <llpamies> SirFred: or libstdc++5-dev ??
[01:12] <neofeed> is there a way I can change the default audio device? from /dev/dsp to /dev/dsp1?
[01:12] <SirFred> llpamies: Perhaps the two ones if you need to compile anything.
[01:12] <yuri> thanks you both! I'll try to insert 1280x1024 into my XF86Config-4.
[01:12] <alemao> SirFred: it will install a plenty of thing wont it?! like openoffice right?
[01:12] <SirFred> alemao: Yes.
[01:13] <alemao> has someone got problem with XFS partitions ?
[01:13] <alemao> SirFred: thanks
[01:13] <SirFred> alemao: np
[01:13] <llpamies> I have installed  libstdc++5 and  libstdc++5-dev. And when try to compile: /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lstdc++
[01:14] <alemao> SirFred: are you in an AMD64?
[01:14] <SirFred> alemao: No. On x86.
[01:15] <SirFred> alemao: A now old PIII 700
[01:15] <SirFred> Have any of you tried beagle on ubuntu?
[01:16] <runenes> SirFred, yes it worked, kinda I needed a new library to fix a bug.. but I got to demo it which was cool
[01:16] <lerio> hi everybody. i have this doubt: in my hoary box i have both gcc-3.3-base and gcc-3.4-base installed. if i try to mark for complete removal the 3.3 version, synaptic alerts me of many other programs to be removed as well. if i mark the other version (3.4) no other package is selected for removal. what does this mean?
[01:16] <alemao> SirFred: beagle?!?! I dunno what is it
[01:18] <Bandit> lerio why would you remove?
[01:18] <SirFred> alemao: http://nat.org/demos
[01:18] <SirFred> alemao: Some flash demos of beagle working.
[01:18] <markrez> what libraries is this looking for:  error while loading shared libraries: libXm.so.3
[01:19] <alemao> markrez: dpkg -S libXm.so.3
[01:19] <lerio> Bandit, i'm trying to gain more space and i noticed that i had 2 versions of the gnu compiler
[01:20] <defile> hmm, can't find beagle in the repo's for hoary
[01:20] <Bandit> that wont get you much space
[01:20] <markrez> dpkg: *libXm.so.3* not found.
[01:20] <SirFred> defile: It's not there.
[01:21] <lerio> Bandit, but now the question is another: why all packages are linked to the older version of the compiler?
[01:21] <yuri> Re: screen resolution -> I added 1280 resolution to XF86Config-4 but I see a "832x624" resolution instead of the 1280 I added. The thing is that I was able to get a higher resolution with ubuntu LiveCD (I selected some boot options, though)
[01:22] <benjami> hi
[01:22] <benjami> my hoary gnome wouldnt start
[01:23] <benjami> gdm does
[01:23] <runenes> markrez, are you running hoary, Im running warty, and it finds libXm.so.2 which belongs to lesstif2
[01:25] <markrez> runenes warty
[01:25] <scoon> anyone here running hoary w/ alsa and an audigy2 with no sound ?
[01:25] <runenes> markrez, what needed libXm.so.2
[01:25] <runenes> err 3
[01:25] <alemao> benjami: how did you install your gnome?
[01:26] <SirFred> scoon: No, anyway I have a problem that could be related.
[01:26] <markrez> ibm iseries terminal emulator
[01:26] <scoon> SirFred, lay it on me.
[01:26] <SirFred> scoon: My CrystalClear SoundFusion Audio Accelerator don't work with the last kernel.
[01:27] <Bandit> scoon do you have an onboard modem
[01:27] <SirFred> scoon: The module loads fine, but alsa claims that there's no sound card.
[01:27] <runenes> markrez, ok.. I have no experience with it, but see if it requires a lesstif version higher than that one in ubuntu
[01:27] <racoontje> why are [reiserfs/reiser4/xfs] progs installed when I'm running ext3, powernowd when I'm running an Intel processor?
[01:27] <SirFred> scoon: Under 2.6.10-1-686 it works fine.
[01:28] <benjami> alemao, i installed from the arry 3 hoary cd, and did an apt-get upgrade
[01:28] <scoon> SirFred, that could be something as simple as the new kernel not being made correctly tho.
[01:28] <scoon> SirFred, btw what is the current hoary kernel? (i roll my own)
[01:28] <sjoerd> racoontje: because you could have installes with those filesystems
[01:28] <benjami> alemao, before the upgrade it worked fine
[01:28] <benjami> ^^
[01:28] <SirFred> scoon: 2.6.10-2-686
[01:28] <sjoerd> racoontje: and powernowd has a strange name, but it actually works on intel and ppc too afaik
[01:29] <runenes> racoontje, see the powernowd man page!
[01:29] <Guardiann> scoon do you have an onboard modem
[01:29] <scoon> SirFred, that would def be my guess then.  same kernel w/ different options.
[01:29] <racoontje> sjoerd, could have. I COULD have installed kde libs too that doesn't mean they should be installed by default
[01:29] <scoon> Guardiann, no modem what so ever.
[01:29] <markrez> Linux requirements for running iSeries Access for Linux
[01:29] <markrez>     * GLibc 2.2
[01:29] <markrez>     * RPM 3.0
[01:29] <markrez>     * OpenMotif 2.0 or later for the 5250 emulator
[01:29] <markrez>     * unixODBC driver manager version 2.0.11 or later must be installed on the client. Go to the unixODBC Project web site for more information on the driver manager and to download the latest level of the driver manager.
[01:29] <sjoerd> racoontje: don't be a fool.. those filesystems are just part of the base system and very small
[01:29] <sjoerd> racoontje: you can easily remove them if you want
[01:30] <Guardiann> I didnt think I had one either probably cause I never used it
[01:30] <alemao> benjami: i think there are some packages wrong in hoary!!!
[01:30] <SirFred> scoon: I'm not sure, but the last kernel was updated three or four times and my card don't work for any of the upgrades.
[01:30] <pmfp> What has happened/how can this befixed?? when I log onto my server and try to run a program, e.g. su, ps, w, it just says -bash: /bin/ps: Too many open files in system
[01:30] <SirFred> scoon: I've seen no error on the kernel logs.
[01:30] <scoon> SirFred, you may not always see error on the logs.
[01:31] <SirFred> scoon: I know.