[20:15] <flocculant> jibel: re no mouse - appears coincidental to vm issues - seems we have zero input on our iso's currently, no mouse nor keyboard


[01:12] <prometheanfire> smoser: in your example, was there a reason you did your symlink as relitive?
[01:14] <prometheanfire> smoser: also, I added comments in my gentoo net fix that shouldn't be there (but aren't harming anything)
[11:08] <ffledgling> hello, I'm trying to launch a fedora.qcow2 cloud image with qemu-kvm locally, by mounting the meta-data and user-data files on the cd-rom, but sometimes it doesn't respect those settings, any idea why this might be? Can someone point me to how should begin debugging this?
[11:31] <smoser> prometheanfire, it is at least generally prerred in debian for symlinks to be relative. they're easier to work with for sure.
[11:32] <smoser> even in the test, the goal is to "render" stuff all into a target root, and easier to read content from that directory if it doesnt leak outside.
[11:32] <smoser> ffledgling, it fails sometimes ?
[12:06] <ffledgling> smoser: yes, it fails sometimes. When I clean everything up and start it from scratch, it works fine, but if I restart the instance it fails
[12:06] <ffledgling> I'm using the no-cloud plugin I think with the user-data and meta-data file
[12:06] <ffledgling> I suspect it might be because of "Note: that the instance-id provided (iid-local01 above) is what is used to determine if this is “first boot”. So if you are making updates to user-data you will also have to change that, or start the disk fresh."
[12:06] <ffledgling> But I don't quite get what that means
[12:07] <smoser> ffledgling, 2 things coudl be happening
[12:07] <smoser> a.) if you want the system to re-run initialization "first boot", then you will have to provide a new instance-id
[12:08] <smoser> cloud-init only runs '#!' scripts and much other user-data bits on first instance boot
[12:08] <smoser> so it determines 'first instance boot' by seeing the instance id and comparing it to one it stored from the last time.
[12:08] <smoser> so if you boot once with instance-id of 'abc' and then change the user-data and boot again with 'abc' it wont pick it up.
[12:09] <ffledgling> Okay, I'm not doing that, and I don't think I want/need to. The default behaviour seems to be what I want
[12:09] <smoser> b.) it could be a race condition where the nocloud disk isn't there yet at the point in which cloud-init runs.
[12:09] <smoser> i've not seen this in practice, but it is plausible.
[12:09] <ffledgling> oh
[12:09] <ffledgling> That would make sense
[12:10] <smoser> if you think this is happening, please
[12:10] <ffledgling> I don't know if it is, how would I confirm?
[12:11] <smoser>  - change logging to go to a file only
[12:11] <smoser>   see https://code.launchpad.net/~harlowja/cloud-init/+git/cloud-init/+merge/301729 for how to do that.
[12:11] <smoser>   (basically change /etc/cloud/cloud.cfg.d/05_logging.cfg as show)
[12:11] <smoser>   - boot the system
[12:11] <smoser>   - shut the system down
[12:11] <smoser>   - collect /var/log/cloud-init.log
[12:11] <smoser> you dont have to shut down if you dont want, if you can log in feel free to get it that way.
[12:12] <smoser> i have to go afk for a bit.
[12:12] <smoser> back later.
[12:12] <ffledgling> Okay, I can't actually login to the box at all, so I'm not sure I can modify any of the cloud.cfg file?
[12:12] <ffledgling> I'm using cloud-init to provide a password to the instance.
[13:19] <smoser> ffledgling, mount the image and change it before booting.
[13:19] <smoser> you can use mount-image-callback or guestfish or something. http://ubuntu-smoser.blogspot.com/2014/08/mount-image-callback-easily-modify.html
[13:20] <prometheanfire> smoser: do I have to use the returned object? 'ns = parse_net_config_data(netconfig)' or can I use the json directly?
[13:25] <smoser> prometheanfire, well, i'd like a Renderer and the Renderer takes network state.
[13:25] <smoser> i'd like it to be have like the others, so that as we modify / improve things, we wont have snowflakes
[13:26] <prometheanfire> smoser: it just seems like a lot of work for rendering something so simple
[13:34] <cn28h> smoser: http://dpaste.com/2V9JTX3 here's the full log which I obtained after adding the change you suggested yesterday to the logging config.  Looks like ssh-authkey-fingerprints is running before cloud-user gets created (even though the logs seem to suggest cloud-user was created first?)
[13:39] <smoser> prometheanfire, fyi my comment https://code.launchpad.net/~utlemming/cloud-init/+git/cloud-init/+merge/303471/comments/784454 applies to you also
[13:39] <smoser> i assume you probably followed the HACKING ;)
[13:40] <smoser> actually, no. it i think says it right.
[13:42] <prometheanfire> smoser: smoser this is an example of doing it all (bridge bond phys vlan) https://gist.github.com/prometheanfire/d1eb9d60fecf25ac7418c8f4160201b3
[13:43] <prometheanfire> it allows access to a vlan trunk
[13:44] <prometheanfire> smoser: ?
[13:44] <prometheanfire> what about that comment?
[13:45] <smoser> you ust that you can use a shorter remote
[13:45] <prometheanfire> I have three origins for my cloud-init repo
[13:45] <smoser> you have git.launchpad.net/~prometheanfire/cloud-init/+git/cloud-init
[13:45] <smoser> you can do
[13:45] <smoser> you have git.launchpad.net/~prometheanfire/cloud-init
[13:46] <prometheanfire> well, the remote's already set up
[13:46] <prometheanfire> prometheanfire@git.launchpad.net:~prometheanfire/cloud-init
[13:46] <prometheanfire> that's how it's already set up
[13:47] <smoser> prometheanfire, right. the only value in it is then i can more easily do things like:
[13:47] <smoser>  for user in prometheanfire utlemming; do git remote add $user git.launchpad.net/~prometheanfire/cloud-init; done
[13:47] <smoser> well, probalby should use '$user' in the url, but i thjink you get the idea
[13:48] <smoser> i did that yesterday, and couldn't figure out why getting your remote was failing
[13:48] <prometheanfire> ya
[13:48] <prometheanfire> not sure why it was failing
[13:49] <prometheanfire> given it seems it's set up right
[13:51] <smoser> shoot.
[13:51] <smoser> i typoed in that comment
[13:51] <ffledgling> smoser: do you mean the iso or the actual fedora image?
[13:51] <smoser> that is what is confusable
[13:52] <smoser> ffledgling, the image
[13:57] <prometheanfire> smoser: anyway, soooooooooooooooooo much boilerplate
[13:58] <smoser> prometheanfire, i know... let me see.
[13:59] <smoser> cleaned up hopefully more obvious comment now
[13:59] <prometheanfire> sorry
[13:59] <smoser> https://code.launchpad.net/~utlemming/cloud-init/+git/cloud-init/+merge/303471/comments/784467
[13:59] <prometheanfire> I'm just not used to dealing with this much indirection and flow and functions that don't really do aything useful
[14:00] <prometheanfire> smoser: so you need me to do something?
[14:05] <smoser> prometheanfire, if you can push to the shorter version, it'd be nice. its just more consistent. but if not , oh well.
[14:06] <smoser> wrt the indirection, let me see if there is some sane way to use that for you.
[14:06] <prometheanfire> thanks
[14:06] <prometheanfire> this is java like python from what I can see :P
[14:10] <prometheanfire> smoser: guess that's what you wanted (push wise)
[14:14] <smoser> prometheanfire, yeah, its all there to try to make things easier. :-(
[14:14] <smoser> take a look at eni.py and see if that is any easier for you to wor off of than sysconfig.py.
[14:15] <smoser> the network state thing doesn't really provide a lot.
[14:15] <prometheanfire> ya
[14:15] <smoser> the interfaces are just like the network-config object that went in... you can iter_interfaces()
[14:15] <prometheanfire> I'll take another look tomorrow
[14:15] <prometheanfire> today is really full
[14:15] <smoser> and iter_routes()
[14:16] <smoser> it shouldnt' be really too much more difficult to use that than to walk through the network_config object
[14:17] <prometheanfire> ya, it's more how they construct each network stansa that is hard
[14:17] <prometheanfire> no string formating :P
[14:18] <prometheanfire> I'll see what I can do I guess
[14:18] <prometheanfire> tomorrow
[14:28] <smoser> prometheanfire, thank you
[20:08] <harlowja> prometheanfire yes its not optimal ;)
[20:08] <harlowja> i did a first stab at making it better, prometheanfire any more u want to do is welcome :)
[20:08] <harlowja> (and yes its confusing as all-hell, lol)
[20:08] <prometheanfire> ya
[20:09] <harlowja> 3 different layers of translation and processing
[20:09] <harlowja> for <?> not really sure why, ha
[20:09] <prometheanfire> yep


[12:10] <ubotu> New bug: #103502 in firefox (main) "Ubuntu want to declare a bug on my system with Firefox" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/103502
[12:10] <ubotu> New bug: #103505 in rapidsvn (universe) "[apport]  rapidsvn crashed with SIGSEGV in svn::Context::reset()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/103505
[12:10] <ubotu> New bug: #103506 in firefox (main) "[apport]  firefox-bin crashed (while being closed during logout) with SIGSEGV in __kernel_vsyscall()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/103506
[12:10] <ubotu> New bug: #103507 in om (universe) "Script 'launchomsynth' brings up two instances of om_gtk" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/103507
[12:10] <ubotu> New bug: #103508 in wpasupplicant (main) "[apport]  wpa_supplicant crashed with SIGSEGV" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/103508
[12:15] <ubotu> New bug: #103509 in serpentine (main) "Crash after clearing the burn list and then going up to click the menu area." [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/103509
[12:15] <ubotu> New bug: #103510 in attal (universe) "[apport]  attal-client crashed with SIGSEGV in QMetaObject::activate()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/103510
[12:15] <ubotu> New bug: #103511 in kde-guidance (main) "[apport]  displayconfig-hwprobe.py crashed with ImportError in <module>()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/103511
[12:21] <ubotu> New bug: #103513 in restricted-manager (main) "restricted-manager icons is unsharp" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/103513
[12:26] <ubotu> New bug: #103515 in firefox (main) "crashed with sigsegv" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/103515
[12:35] <ubotu> New bug: #103517 in usplash (main) "[usplash]  doesnt detect change in LCD panel (resolution)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/103517
[12:40] <ubotu> New bug: #103518 in evolution (main) "window in evolution does not adapt to screen size" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/103518
[12:50] <ubotu> New bug: #103519 in gambas (universe) "installing e-sword" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/103519
[12:50] <ubotu> New bug: #103520 in udev (main) "[feisty]  some usb mass storage devices aren't shown when plugged in" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/103520
[01:06] <ubotu> New bug: #103522 in Ubuntu "lyx and texlive not compatible" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/103522
[01:06] <ubotu> New bug: #103523 in update-manager (main) "update-manager crashes on missing file" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/103523
[01:11] <ubotu> New bug: #103524 in hwdb-client (main) "[apport]  hwdb-gui crashed with GError in draw_header()"" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/103524
[01:16] <ubotu> New bug: #103526 in firefox (main) "[apport]  firefox-bin crashed with SIGSEGV in __kernel_vsyscall()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/103526
[01:16] <ubotu> New bug: #103528 in klamav (universe) "[apport]  klammail crashed with SIGSEGV in strlen()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/103528
[01:16] <ubotu> New bug: #103529 in gnome-terminal (main) "gnome-terminal stops receiving input when maximized in feisty" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/103529
[01:35] <ubotu> New bug: #103530 in Ubuntu "continuing Install problems, no video" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/103530
[01:40] <ubotu> New bug: #103531 in gnome-applets (main) "disk mount panel crashs after X-Server restart" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/103531
[01:40] <ubotu> New bug: #103532 in network-manager (main) "NetworkManager can't find any interfaces" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/103532
[01:50] <ubotu> New bug: #103533 in parted (main) "Parted assertion failure" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/103533
[01:50] <ubotu> New bug: #103534 in sagcad (universe) "sagcad crashed when I clicked a command" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/103534
[01:56] <ubotu> New bug: #103535 in pymsnt (universe) "pymsnt can't create pid file" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/103535
[01:56] <ubotu> New bug: #103536 in r-cran-psy (universe) "[apport]  package r-cran-psy failed to install/upgrade: " [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/103536
[01:56] <ubotu> New bug: #103537 in wine (universe) "rosetta stone won't install via WINE in Feisty" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/103537
[02:01] <ubotu> New bug: #103538 in galternatives (universe) "[apport]  galternatives crashed with TypeError in update_metainfo()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/103538
[02:06] <ubotu> New bug: #103539 in zapping (universe) "[apport]  zapping crashed with SIGSEGV in gtk_widget_set_sensitive()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/103539
[02:14] <dragon52225> I'm just wondering does anyone here have a clue about: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/103435 (my bug).  I asked the ubuntu+1 channel people and they told me to file one, but i'm asking here just to make sure the bug is valid.
[02:14] <ubotu> Malone bug 103435 in debian-installer "Install CD Issue" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]
[02:15] <jjesse_> sorry lagged out, for those apport bugs should we be adding the retrace flag?
[02:15] <ubotu> New bug: #103540 in gnome-panel (main) "[apport]  gnome-panel crashed with SIGSEGV" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/103540
[02:20] <ubotu> New bug: #103541 in gnomoradio (universe) "[apport]  gnomoradio crashed with SIGSEGV" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/103541
[02:20] <ubotu> New bug: #103542 in Ubuntu "no sound after upgrade to feisty" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/103542
[02:20] <ubotu> New bug: #103543 in dvdauthor (universe) "No abriu..." [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/103543
[02:35] <ubotu> New bug: #103544 in ubiquity (main) "Kubuntu installer crash at manual partitioning step" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/103544
[02:40] <ubotu> New bug: #103546 in audacity (universe) "Audacity crashes when I selected open file. Amaron and Skype was running in that same time." [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/103546
[02:40] <ubotu> New bug: #103547 in apport (main) "[apport]  apport-gtk crashed with error in load()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/103547
[02:41] <ubotu> New bug: #103545 in Ubuntu "nvidia-glx doesn't work with GF 8800 in Feisty" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/103545
[02:45] <ubotu> New bug: #103548 in bzr (main) "[apport]  bzr crashed with ImportError in <module>()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/103548
[02:56] <ubotu> New bug: #103550 in kdelibs (main) "[apport]  kdeinit crashed with SIGSEGV" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/103550
[03:01] <ubotu> New bug: #103551 in feisty-gdm-themes (main) "Ubuntu screenshot has ghost image" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/103551
[03:31] <ubotu> New bug: #103552 in Ubuntu "Internet still doesn't connect automatically." [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/103552
[03:36] <ubotu> New bug: #103553 in Ubuntu "volume wheel , fan and screen resolution ,three problems" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/103553
[03:36] <ubotu> New bug: #103554 in compiz (main) "Viewports/Cube - Totem appears on all viewports' window lists when launched from a file" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/103554
[03:41] <ubotu> New bug: #103556 in beryl-core (universe) "[apport]  beryl crashed with SIGSEGV in XPending()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/103556
[03:41] <ubotu> New bug: #103557 in firefox (main) "[apport]  firefox-bin crashed with SIGSEGV in __kernel_vsyscall()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/103557
[03:46] <ubotu> New bug: #103558 in k3b (main) "Feisty beta ISO testing" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/103558
[03:46] <ubotu> New bug: #103559 in gnome-volume-manager (main) "volume manager crashes after logon" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/103559
[03:55] <ubotu> New bug: #103560 in Ubuntu "Firefox crashes when flash plugin is installed" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/103560
[04:00] <ubotu> New bug: #103561 in gaim (main) "[Feisty]  Can't see guifications themes that I add in Gaim" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/103561
[04:10] <ubotu> New bug: #103563 in samba (main) "Usershare should be set up (but not enabled by default)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/103563
[04:10] <ubotu> New bug: #103564 in network-manager (main) "network-manager disables prism2 internet connection" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/103564
[04:15] <ubotu> New bug: #103565 in Ubuntu "[apport]  displayconfig-restore.py crashed with ImportError in <module>()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/103565
[04:21] <ubotu> New bug: #103566 in restricted-manager (main) "Restricted manager shows Ti4600 as legacy card" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/103566
[04:21] <ubotu> New bug: #103567 in gnome-system-tools (main) "shares-admin should allow configuration and enablement of Samba usershares" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/103567
[04:31] <ubotu> New bug: #103568 in quodlibet (universe) "Quodlibet freezes on starting" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/103568
[04:31] <ubotu> New bug: #103569 in Ubuntu "[need-packaging]  Scalix" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/103569
[04:31] <ubotu> New bug: #103570 in mozilla-thunderbird (main) "Mozilla Thunderbird Re-Receive Emails" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/103570
[04:45] <ubotu> New bug: #103571 in rhythmbox "Cover art plugin regression: sidebar resizing results in bad image quality" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/103571
[05:00] <ubotu> New bug: #103572 in gnome-media (main) "[apport]  gnome-volume-control crashed with SIGSEGV" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/103572
[05:00] <ubotu> New bug: #103573 in rt2500 (universe) "RaConfig does not work" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/103573
[05:06] <shirish> bdmurray: are u there?
[05:06] <shirish> can anyone help me?
[05:08] <Hobbsee> !anyone
[05:08] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[05:09] <shirish> I filed this bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/usplash/+bug/103238
[05:09] <ubotu> Malone bug 103238 in usplash "[apport]  usplash crashed with SIGSEGV in memset()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]
[05:09] <shirish> A certain Brian Murray wants i386-retrace, how can I give him that?
[05:09] <shirish> Hobbsee: if you can look into it & let me know, it would be nice.
[05:10] <Hobbsee> but i think it's i386-needs-retracting tag or something
[05:10] <shirish> sorry that was wrong bug
[05:11] <ubotu> New bug: #103574 in rt2500 (universe) "Drivers configured to only sees FCC approved channels by default" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/103574
[05:11] <shirish> Hobbsee: no, it is the right bug, I had the e-mail about it saying he needs i386-retracing done
[05:12] <Hobbsee> shirish: ** Tags added: need-i386-retrace
[05:13] <Hobbsee> so add that tag to your bug
[05:13] <Hobbsee> and the retracer will deal with it
[05:14] <shirish> Hobbsee: is not that the Edit description/tag thing?
[05:14] <Hobbsee> yes
[05:15] <shirish> ok just changed the tag to need-i386-retrace but no confirmation or does not show it anywhere, how to know the tag has been added?
[05:16] <Hobbsee> then wait, for the retracer
[05:16] <Hobbsee> it will remove that tag when it's done
[05:16] <Hobbsee> make sure you hit save changes or whatever
[05:16] <shirish> yup I did that
[05:17] <Hobbsee> would have thought you could see the tabs on LP somewhere
[05:17] <shirish> what I am confused is it hides the tag when IMHO it should display it
[05:17] <shirish> not tabs, tags
[05:17] <bdmurray> shirish: yep
[05:17] <shirish> hi bdmurray: are u same as brian murray or 2 different entities?
[05:18] <shirish> not that I have any issue with brian murray, just asking
[05:18] <bdmurray> The one and only Brian Murray. ;)
[05:19] <bdmurray> the retrace wasn't useful that happens sometimes
[05:19] <shirish> bdmurray: oh cool, you know what I am talking about then
[05:20] <shirish> bdmurray: what I am concerned is you were not able to tag for the i386-retrace thing , not that I mind , but want to know
[05:20] <ubotu> New bug: #103577 in kmplayer (main) "unable to play wmv and avi files using xine embeded in Knqueror" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/103577
[05:20] <bdmurray> shirish: what do you mean I wasn't able to?
[05:20] <shirish> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/usplash/+bug/103238
[05:20] <ubotu> Malone bug 103238 in usplash "[apport]  usplash crashed with SIGSEGV in memset()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]
[05:21] <ubotu> New bug: #103575 in ubiquity (main) "Error durring install" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/103575
[05:21] <ubotu> New bug: #103576 in Ubuntu "[feisty]  ACPI Suspend doesn't work" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/103576
[05:21] <bdmurray> it was retraced ~3 hours ago so I suspect that I tagged it before that retracing
[05:22] <shirish> ok but was not useful so I should delete the tag of i386-retrace which I put up some moments ago?
[05:22] <bdmurray> however, activity logs don't show tags at the moment
[05:22] <bdmurray> eh, it's too late the retracer is fast
[05:22] <shirish> bdmurray: oops
[05:23] <shirish> the tags by default do show in launchpad, or in the beta?
[05:24] <bdmurray> tags do show at the end of the first comment
[05:25] <bdmurray> bug 103169
[05:25] <ubotu> Malone bug 103169 in gnome-keyring "keyring locks after suspend" [Medium,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/103169
[05:25] <bdmurray> has a tag at the end of "bug description" on the right hand side
[05:25] <ubotu> New bug: #103578 in Ubuntu "Kaffeine Locks up computer 45-50 minutes through DVD Playback" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/103578
[05:27] <shirish> bdmurray: that is the tag, likely-dup got it
[05:30] <bdmurray> shirish: that's it
[05:31] <bdmurray> Hobbsee: you asked about kstreamripper a while ago?
[05:40] <Hobbsee> bdmurray: i think so, yeah.    dont remember what ti was about though
[05:40] <Hobbsee> at the moment
[05:41] <ubotu> New bug: #103579 in nautilus (main) "delete something and it still goes to trash box" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/103579
[05:43] <bdmurray> Hobbsee: icons or menu placement for it
[05:43] <bdmurray> It shows up in System instead of Multimedia and doesn't have a menu icon
[05:46] <ubotu> New bug: #103580 in klibido (universe) "Crash on launch" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/103580
[05:50] <ubotu> New bug: #103581 in debian-installer (main) ""would you like installing lamp" needs "continue" and "cancel" items" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/103581
[05:50] <ubotu> New bug: #103582 in tracker (universe) "tracker crashed on .gif" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/103582
[05:55] <ubotu> New bug: #103583 in ubiquity (main) "Improve graphical timezone chooser, provide choice to enter actual timezones" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/103583
[06:01] <shirish> Hobbsee: bdmurray: are either of you into wi-fi stuff?
[06:05] <ubotu> New bug: #103584 in network-manager (main) "[feisty]  Network Manager peculiar issue - No network connection" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/103584
[06:10] <bdmurray> shirish: I know a bit.
[06:10] <ubotu> New bug: #103585 in arts (main) "[apport]  artsd crashed with SIGSEGV" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/103585
[06:26] <ubotu> New bug: #103586 in vbetool (main) "[apport]  vbetool crashed with signal 5" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/103586
[06:35] <ubotu> New bug: #103587 in firefox (main) "Firefox Crash when sending photo on picnik website" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/103587
[06:38] <shirish> bdmurray: u still here?
[06:40] <shirish> sorry did not see your answer, the issue seems that lot of people still cannot get Wi-Fi working, also the wiki page does not provide much of hope, maybe it needs to be re-hashed with some howtos of people who have been successful in doing so.
[06:40] <ubotu> New bug: #103588 in blender (universe) "[apport]  blender-bin crashed with SIGSEGV in yafrayFileRender_t::writeWorld()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/103588
[06:44] <Hobbsee> shirish: then please coordinate it and write it
[06:45] <shirish> Hobbsee: I am running on ethernet so know a little how it worked for me, but no idea about Wi-Fi, in case if you want me to write something about how my config works can write, but where?
[06:45] <Hobbsee> ahh
[06:45] <ubotu> New bug: #103589 in ubuntustudio-meta (universe) "ubuntustudio-audio not installable" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/103589
[06:45] <ubotu> New bug: #103590 in tinyerp-server (universe) "[apport]  tinyerp-server.py crashed with error in self.socket.bind(self.server_address)()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/103590
[06:45] <Hobbsee> i'm not sure why so many people are having trouble with wifi
[06:56] <bddebian> Because NM and broadcom chipsets both suck? :-)
[06:56] <crimsun> well, the latter for sure
[06:56] <crimsun> n-m is nearly excusable
[06:57] <crimsun> dist-upgrades from edgy -> feisty with n-m are going to be ... interesting
[06:57] <shirish> if that is the reason, then should not that be listed in the wiki, that these chipsets are trouble-some at this point of time, with perhaps somethings which would be help to developers
[06:58] <crimsun> personally, n-m has all but kicked me in the shins, so I've gone back to the reliable `dhclient $iface'
[06:59] <shirish> Hobbsee: how should I file a usability bug?
[06:59] <Hobbsee> bddebian: NM works far easier than wpasupplicant does
[06:59] <bddebian> I don't use either
[06:59] <bddebian> I just hack up /etc/network/interfaces :-)
[07:00] <bddebian> Everytime I have tried to configure with NM, everything stops working :'-(
[07:00] <shirish> Hobbsee: all the things u guys know if it was in the wiki, it would be so much help for people in the channel, there were atleast 10-15 people who were looking for this the whole of last night with anybody being wiser
[07:02] <shirish> I meant without anybody being wiser
[07:03] <Hobbsee> shirish: indeed.
[07:03] <Hobbsee> -ENOTIME
[07:03] <Hobbsee> -EFIXINGBUGS
[07:03] <Hobbsee> -ENOTGOODATDOCUMENTATION
[07:04] <shirish> I understand, I hoped if there was a channel for wiki people, I would like to interact with them
[07:11] <ubotu> New bug: #103591 in totem (main) "totem doesn't disable screen blanking" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/103591
[07:18] <Hobbsee> oh.  that's #ubuntu-doc iirc
[07:25] <ubotu> New bug: #103592 in gnome-panel (main) "[apport]  gnome-panel crashed with SIGSEGV in wnck_workspace_get_width()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/103592
[07:30] <ubotu> New bug: #103593 in adept (main) "adept crash when downloading packages in feisty" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/103593
[07:45] <ubotu> New bug: #103594 in linux-source-2.6.20 (main) "Cupsd errors when booting up into Ubuntu and when running Ubuntu" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/103594
[07:46] <ubotu> New bug: #103595 in gs-esp (main) "[apport]  gs-esp crashed with SIGSEGV in pdf_find_same_resource()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/103595
[07:46] <shirish> does apport have a log now?
[07:47] <shirish> anybody?
[07:51] <ubotu> New bug: #103596 in gnome-commander (universe) "[apport]  gnome-commander crashed with SIGSEGV" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/103596
[08:05] <Hobbsee> shirish: btw - you wanted #ubuntu-doc earlier
[08:05] <Hobbsee> shirish: i didnt realise what you were asking for
[08:06] <Hobbsee> shirish: as in, no, i personally wasnt going to do it - but can point you to those who are into writing documentation
[08:06] <ubotu> New bug: #103597 in dar (universe) "dar 2.3.3 fixes problem with hardlinks" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/103597
[08:12] <shirish> Hobbsee: I hope you are still around?
[08:13] <Hobbsee> shirish: yeah
[08:14] <shirish> I have just installed the the exaile-dbgsym package
[08:14] <shirish> I have the exaile* .crash package in /var/crash
[08:14] <shirish> can u run how should I run the debug so the crash file is smaller & more relevant to the developers
[08:17] <shirish> /usr/lib/debug/usr/lib/exaile that is the debug sym library I guess which needs to run against the crash, right
[08:18] <Hobbsee> i'ev got no idea
[08:19] <shirish> I need somebody who knows what I need to do
[08:20] <ubotu> New bug: #103598 in apport (main) "Crashed when reoprting crash of Software updater" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/103598
[08:40] <ubotu> New bug: #103599 in openoffice.org (main) "Crash when linking OpenOffice.org Base with Postgresql 8.2 database via JDBC" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/103599
[08:45] <ubotu> New bug: #103600 in gnome-media (main) "Gnome volume control crashed when enabling line-in " [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/103600
[08:51] <ubotu> New bug: #103601 in firefox (main) "crashes after installing bangali/bangla UNICODE true type fonts" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/103601
[09:05] <ubotu> New bug: #103602 in gnome-games (main) "Gnome-sudoku in Edgy fails to run" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/103602
[09:10] <ubotu> New bug: #103604 in exaile (universe) "Exaile crashes while closing from status bar" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/103604
[09:15] <ubotu> New bug: #103603 in Ubuntu "X server at 100% CPU" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/103603
[09:15] <ubotu> New bug: #103606 in language-pack-gnome-sw (main) "installing the sw language pack doesn't do anything" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/103606
[09:16] <shirish> anybody here?
[09:17] <shirish> I am trying to have a backtrace of a program, how do I do it?
[09:17] <shirish> I have the crash file as well as the package-dbgsym also installed of it
[09:21] <ubotu> New bug: #103607 in adept (main) "Adept-updater announces new version of Kubuntu but does not allow it to be installed" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/103607
[09:31] <ubotu> New bug: #103608 in lvm2 (main) "[feisty]  boot stuck in the initramfs" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/103608
[09:40] <ubotu> New bug: #103609 in gnome-panel (main) "[apport]  gnome-panel crashed with SIGSEGV in g_type_check_instance_is_a()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/103609
[09:45] <ubotu> New bug: #103610 in gaim (main) "[apport]  gaim crashed with SIGSEGV in gaim_conv_chat_get_conversation()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/103610
[09:50] <ubotu> New bug: #103612 in beryl-settings-simple (universe) "[apport]  beryl-settings-simple crashed with IOError in __init__()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/103612
[09:50] <ubotu> New bug: #103613 in kernel-patch-2.6.10-hppa (universe) "/lib/tls/i686/cmov/libthread_db.so.1" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/103613
[09:56] <ubotu> New bug: #103614 in Ubuntu "custom installer crashes, and free space installer hangs" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/103614
[09:56] <ubotu> New bug: #103615 in beryl-core (universe) "[apport]  beryl crashed with SIGSEGV in XPending()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/103615
[10:01] <ubotu> New bug: #103616 in Ubuntu "[needs-packaging]  LiVES" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/103616
[10:01] <ubotu> New bug: #103617 in apport (main) "[apport]  apport-gtk crashed with SIGSEGV" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/103617
[10:01] <ubotu> New bug: #103618 in firefox (main) "[apport]  firefox-bin crashed with SIGSEGV in raise()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/103618
[10:06] <ubotu> New bug: #103619 in gftp (main) "[apport]  gftp-gtk crashed with SIGSEGV" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/103619
[10:06] <ubotu> New bug: #103620 in onboard (main) "po-onboard-settings translation template is not imported to Rosetta " [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/103620
[10:06] <ubotu> New bug: #103621 in Ubuntu "Installer fails during boot on DS4 P965 Fiesty Beta" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/103621
[10:10] <ubotu> New bug: #103622 in xserver-xgl (universe) "[apport]  Xgl crashed with SIGSEGV" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/103622
[10:15] <ubotu> New bug: #103623 in linux-source-2.6.20 (main) "FEISTY: rt2500 not working correctly" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/103623
[10:25] <ubotu> New bug: #103624 in hwdb-client (main) "[apport]  hwdb-gui crashed with GError in draw_header()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/103624
[10:31] <ubotu> New bug: #103625 in restricted-manager (main) "[apport]  restricted-manager crashed with IOError in generate_restricted_list()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/103625
[10:31] <ubotu> New bug: #103626 in Ubuntu "Feisty upgrade "System" menu is different" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/103626
[10:36] <ubotu> New bug: #103627 in fontconfig (main) "ex-Warty, Feisty installation's font settings are wrong" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/103627
[10:36] <ubotu> New bug: #103628 in update-manager (main) "Distribution Upgrade dont have one letter" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/103628
[10:36] <ubotu> New bug: #103629 in ubiquity (main) "[apport]  ubiquity crashed with AttributeError in on_next_clicked()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/103629
[10:46] <ubotu> New bug: #103630 in tango-icon-theme (main) "20x20 new icons not in index.theme" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/103630
[10:46] <ubotu> New bug: #103631 in auctex (main) "RefTeX complains "Wrong type argument: sequencep, t"" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/103631
[10:46] <ubotu> New bug: #103632 in bash (main) "[apport]  bash crashed with SIGSEGV" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/103632
[10:50] <ubotu> New bug: #103634 in rhythmbox (main) "[apport]  rhythmbox crashed with SIGSEGV in g_type_check_instance_is_a() when I start playing a song with  edirol UA-25 USB sound device" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/103634
[10:50] <ubotu> New bug: #103635 in kdelibs (main) "[apport]  kdeinit crashed with SIGSEGV" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/103635
[10:51] <ubotu> New bug: #103633 in gnome-pilot (main) "[apport]  gpilot-applet crashed with SIGSEGV" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/103633
[10:56] <ubotu> New bug: #103636 in Ubuntu "[apport]  kdm crashed with SIGSEGV" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/103636
[11:01] <ubotu> New bug: #103638 in gpe-todo (universe) "[apport]  gpe-todo crashed with SIGSEGV in todo_db_push_item()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/103638
[11:05] <ubotu> New bug: #103643 in mozilla-thunderbird (main) "[apport]  mozilla-thunderbird-bin crashed with SIGSEGV in __kernel_vsyscall()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/103643
[11:06] <ubotu> New bug: #103640 in firefox (main) "Firefox crashes when using a chinese dictionary" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/103640
[11:06] <ubotu> New bug: #103641 in openoffice.org (main) "OpenOffice applications could not start after language pack update" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/103641
[11:06] <ubotu> New bug: #103642 in Ubuntu "[needs-packaging]  libgtkglext1-python" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/103642
[11:06] <shirish> can somebody help me with debugging a bug?
[11:07] <pochu> shirish: which bug? :)
[11:07] <shirish> hi pochu: It is my own bug, just a sec. lemme find the bug report
[11:08] <crimsun> he needs to add a retrace tag IIRC
[11:08] <shirish> it is an exaile issue
[11:08] <crimsun> I've not been reading scrollback closely, as I've several hundred alsa bugs to triage
[11:08] <shirish> I have downloaded the exaile-debsym file also
[11:08] <shirish> the crash file is in /var/crash
[11:08] <pochu> shirish: are you using edgy?
[11:09] <shirish> nope feisty
[11:09] <shirish> https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/103604 the bug
[11:09] <ubotu> Malone bug 103604 in exaile "Exaile crashes while closing from status bar" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]
[11:09] <pochu> looking
[11:09] <shirish> the bug report is 7 mb, both apport as well as FF have given up on sending it :(
[11:10] <pochu> :-/
[11:10] <pochu> if there is no crash file...
[11:10] <shirish> if somebody could guide me through the process it would be cool, the crash file is in my /var/crash
[11:11] <pochu> shirish: open exaile from the terminal, and crash it
[11:11] <pochu> shirish: then put the output in the bug report
[11:11] <shirish> I can upload it to rapidshare, but somehow launchpad gives a server internal 500 error
[11:12] <shirish> pochu it should be just running exaile or something else before that?
[11:12] <pochu> shirish: just it, to see the backtrace
[11:12] <pochu> well, the end of it :)
[11:12] <shirish> ok cool
[11:13] <shirish> I will put the whole whatever stuff happens in pastebin, is that ok
[11:13] <pochu> yep
[11:14] <shirish> ok at the very end it gives this Segmentation fault (core dumped)
[11:15] <shirish> any ideas?
[11:15] <pochu> is there a backtrace before it?
[11:15] <pochu> pastebin it please :)
[11:15] <ubotu> New bug: #103644 in Ubuntu "F3 (keyboard select) on Live-CD shows shadow screens" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/103644
[11:15] <ubotu> New bug: #103645 in cowbell (universe) "wrong line breaks in Spanish translation" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/103645
[11:17] <shirish> pochu: no backtrace, it is very small thing, hence enclosed the whole thing in the bug-report itself
[11:18] <pochu> shirish: I think there is a way to upload the crash report when you rejected it
[11:19] <pochu> shirish: I think you have to touch it
[11:19] <shirish> pochu: I did not reject anything, I let apport run for about an hr. by itself & then it exited clean
[11:19] <shirish> pochu: I have done the touch part many a times, does apport have a log somewhere that I can take a look at
[11:19] <pochu> It logs at /var/log/apport.log
[11:20] <pochu> shirish: did you tell apport "not ask again for exaile crashes" ?
[11:20] <shirish> pochu: just a moment please. this log has been introduced just now, in the last few days
[11:20] <shirish> pochu: no, nothing like that
[11:20] <pochu> Here I have it :)
[11:20] <shirish> pochu: still no response from apport
[11:21] <pochu> shirish: ok, you can obtain a backtrace yourself: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Backtrace
[11:21] <shirish> can u please tell me what this line means gdb <program> 2>&1 | tee gdb-<program>.txt
[11:22] <shirish> for e.g. should it be gdb exaile 2>&1 | tee gdb exaile.txt
[11:22] <shirish> or should the brackets be in there?
[11:23] <pochu> shirish: yeah, that's ok
[11:24] <pochu> gdb exaile 2>&1 | tee gdb-exaile.txt
[11:24] <shirish> ok can u wait a moment
[11:24] <pochu> sure
[11:24] <pochu> I'm here for a while
[11:24] <shirish> pochu: it says /usr/bin/exaile": not in executable format: File format not recognized
[11:25] <shirish> :(
[11:26] <shirish> any more ideas?
[11:26] <ubotu> New bug: #103646 in gcj-4.1 (main) "[apport]  gij-4.1 crashed with SIGSEGV in java::lang::ref::ReferenceQueue::poll()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/103646
[11:26] <ubotu> New bug: #103647 in bootcd (universe) "Feisty Beta Live CD freezes on boot process" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/103647
[11:26] <shirish> pochu: also I have pasted the contents of apport.log http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/14166/ if u can take a look at that sometime & tell me if its normal
[11:28] <shirish> ping me when you are back
[11:29] <shirish> AlexLatchford: can u help?
[11:29] <AlexLatchford> Whats up?
[11:29] <AlexLatchford> ah apport again
[11:29] <AlexLatchford> I have that on my todo list for today to read up on
[11:30] <shirish> AlexLatchford: that would be cool, but apart from that exaile has been crashing on me in a certain way
[11:31] <shirish> I am trying to make something worthwhile out of it, there is a bug report at /var/crash & I have also downloaded the exaile-dbgsym file for it
[11:31] <ubotu> New bug: #103648 in system-config-printer (main) "[apport]  system-config-printer.py crashed with RuntimeError in save_serversettings()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/103648
[11:31] <AlexLatchford> I'm afraid I really don't have the knowledge at the moment :( I write a lot of pretty tutorials and triage easy bugs, don't often get involved in the fixing process, sorry
[11:31] <shirish> AlexLatchford: I do not want to fix the bug, just to have a useful report made for them
[11:32] <shirish> AlexLatchford: as I understand they need this backtrace & retraced backtrace thing
[11:33] <shirish> sorry, I did not understand what u just said, sorry for taking your time
[11:33] <shirish> AlexLatchford: sorry, I did not understand what u just said, sorry for taking your time
[11:33] <shirish> AlexLatchford: btw if you want to know apport issues you can always connect to me, either by my mail or whichever means, I am known as shirishag75 in launchpad
[11:34] <AlexLatchford> aha okay
[11:35] <AlexLatchford> will do
[11:35] <pochu> shirish: can you upload the crash file to the bug report?
[11:35] <ubotu> New bug: #103649 in ubiquity (main) "installer crashed - grub installer failed on Ubuntu-Muslim Edition" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/103649
[11:35] <shirish> pochu: nope I tried it twice through firefox, each time after something like 30 mins or so firefox gives up & says a 500 internal server error
[11:36] <pochu> :-/
[11:37] <shirish> pochu: I have also seen this page
[11:37] <shirish> pochu: I am stuck at one particular line
[11:37] <pochu> which one?
[11:38] <shirish> oops, hold on I did not try the other way
[11:38] <shirish> when the program is running
[11:39] <shirish> pidof <program> should be pidof exaile or pidof /usr/bin/exaile ?
[11:39] <pochu> shirish: you can try to remove the crash file from /var/crash, and then crash it again. Maybe then apport asks you to upload it
[11:39] <pochu> pidof exaile
[11:39] <pochu> I think
[11:40] <pochu> shirish: btw, your issue might be already reported: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/exaile/
[11:40] <ubotu> New bug: #103650 in initramfs-tools (main) "mdadm / initramfs race condition at boot" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/103650
[11:40] <ubotu> New bug: #103651 in gnome-terminal (main) "[Feisty]  gnome-terminal crash with long japanese input (uim/scim anthy)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/103651
[11:40] <shirish> pochu: lol , either of them do not work, both exit gracefully so do not know the pid of exaile
[11:41] <shirish> pochu: I have been having issues with apport for anything more than 2 mb+ it runs for a while & then shuts down
[11:42] <shirish> pochu: that said, just today I came to know the existence of /var/log/apport.log
[11:42] <pochu> shirish: we need something like this: http://librarian.launchpad.net/6898251/Traceback.txt
[11:43] <pochu> shirish: if you open the crash file in /var/crash, there should be something like it.
[11:43] <pochu> shirish: you can copy it and paste in the bug report
[11:43] <shirish> pochu: just a moment please
[11:44] <shirish> is this also cool  apport-unpack _usr_share_exaile_exaile.py.1000.crash /tmp/unpack ?
[11:45] <pochu> dunno
[11:45] <shirish> pochu: nope that does not have it, I guess I just have to open the txt file
[11:46] <ubotu> New bug: #103653 in samba (main) "[apport]  net crashed with SIGSEGV in run_rpc_command()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/103653
[11:47] <pochu> shirish: does /tmp/unpack exists?
[11:47] <pochu> shirish: try with apport-unpack _usr_share_exaile_exaile.py.1000.crash ~/
[11:47] <shirish> pochu: running that command gives lot of stuff in /tmp/unpack there are around 6 files there
[11:48] <pochu> yeah, that's what we want
[11:48] <pochu> shirish: is a backtrace there?
[11:48] <pochu> backtrace.txt?
[11:48] <shirish> pochu: no backtrace.txt unfortunately :(
[11:49] <pochu> shirish: a coredump maybe?
[11:49] <shirish> lemme check
[11:49] <pochu> and a stacktrace and a threadstacktrace?
[11:49] <shirish> Architecture  DistroRelease    ProcCmdline  ProcStatus
[11:49] <shirish> CoreDump      ExecutablePath   ProcCwd      Signal
[11:49] <shirish> CrashCounter  InterpreterPath  ProcEnviron  Uname
[11:49] <shirish> Date          ProblemType      ProcMaps     UserGroups
[11:50] <shirish> sorry for the dump, but these are the files there
[11:51] <pochu> shirish: what about Signal?
[11:51] <pochu> and ProblemType
[11:51] <ubotu> New bug: #103652 in wacom-tools (main) "cannot build wacom-kernel-source kernel modules" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/103652
[11:51] <ubotu> New bug: #103654 in rhythmbox (main) "rhythmbox crashes when deleting file from ipod" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/103654
[11:51] <shirish> pochu: there are 16 files in there, there is signal file, want me to open it with gedit?
[11:52] <shirish> very small files, Signal gives 11, while ProblemType gives crash
[11:53] <shirish> pochu: while the coredump file is actually a 75 MB file, phew....
[11:53] <ubotu> New bug: #96854 in kdenetwork (main) "kopete file transfer fail" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/96854
[11:53] <pochu> ok, then it's a SigSegv
[11:53] <pochu> shirish: bug 85798, bug 88607, bug 91649, look if any of them is like yours
[11:53] <ubotu> Malone bug 85798 in python-defaults "[apport]  python crashed with SIGSEGV in gtk_tree_view_remove_column()" [Medium,Needs info]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/85798
[11:53] <ubotu> Malone bug 88607 in exaile "[apport]  python crashed with SIGSEGV in gdk_keymap_get_direction()" [Medium,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/88607
[11:54] <ubotu> Malone bug 91649 in exaile "[apport]  exaile.py crashed with SIGSEGV" [Medium,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/91649
[11:55] <shirish> pochu: does pidof work for you, because here I tried it does not work with even mozilla-firefox or even firefox?
[11:56] <ubotu> New bug: #103656 in hwdb-client (main) "[apport]  hwdb-gui crashed with GError in draw_header()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/103656
[11:56] <ubotu> New bug: #103657 in hwdb-client (main) "[apport]  hwdb-kde crashed with IndexError in sendData()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/103657
[11:56] <pochu> shirish: I don't know, and I can't check it now
[11:57] <shirish> pochu: ok no issues, although my issues are still unresolved you have been lot of help
[11:57] <shirish> pochu: the bug reports do look a lot similar
[11:58] <pochu> shirish: if we could see your stacktrace, we would know if any of them is the same
[11:59] <shirish> pochu: one thing I could do is upload the 7 mb file to rapidshare but then somebody would have to download it from there
[12:00] <shirish> pochu: if you can do the debugging from your end then I will be more than happy to upload it
[12:00] <pochu> shirish: if you do it, I can take a look
[12:00] <shirish> pochu: cool is it ok if I subscribe you to the bug, it will take some time to upload it to rapidshare
[12:01] <pochu> shirish: yeah, feel free :)
[12:01] <shirish> pochu: ok thanx, I take it you are also known as pochu on launchpad?
[12:02] <txwikinger> Hug Day today again ?
[12:02] <pochu> shirish: yep
[12:02] <txwikinger> :)
[12:03] <pochu> txwikinger: yeah, I think today's Hug Day :)
[12:03] <pochu> shirish: I'm off for a bit, ping me when you've uploaded it
[12:04] <shirish> sure m8 will do
[12:05] <shirish> pochu: although no idea why, but now the crash file size is something like 11 mb :(
[12:06] <ubotu> New bug: #103658 in acpi-support (main) "S99acpi-support service never terminate" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/103658
[12:06] <ubotu> New bug: #103659 in xfdesktop4 (main) "everything! broke" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/103659
[12:06] <ubotu> New bug: #103660 in xfce4-utils (main) "[apport]  xfrun4 crashed with SIGSEGV" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/103660
[12:06] <ubotu> New bug: #103661 in xfdesktop4 (main) "[apport]  xfdesktop crashed with SIGSEGV" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/103661
[12:06] <ubotu> New bug: #103662 in thunar (main) "[apport]  thunar-tpa crashed with SIGSEGV" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/103662
[12:15] <ubotu> New bug: #103664 in gksu (main) "Message in Feisty French version" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/103664
[12:21] <ubotu> New bug: #103665 in kvm (universe) "kvm crashes on load (exception 13)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/103665
[12:25] <ubotu> New bug: #103666 in slune (universe) "[apport]  slune crashed with SIGSEGV" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/103666
[12:39] <shirish> pochu: file uploaded to rapidshare at http://rapidshare.com/files/24592498/_usr_share_exaile_exaile.py.1000.crash.html
[12:46] <ubotu> New bug: #103668 in gnome-panel (main) "[apport]  gnome-panel crashed with SIGSEGV" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/103668
[12:54] <ubotu> New bug: #97218 in mplayerplug-in (multiverse) "mplayerplug-in depends on mplayer explicitly" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/97218
[12:55] <ubotu> New bug: #103672 in acpi-support (main) "Feisty breaks hibernate on Thinkpad X30" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/103672
[12:57] <ubotu> New bug: #103669 in beryl-core (universe) "[apport]  beryl crashed with SIGSEGV in finishScreenDrawing()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/103669
[12:57] <ubotu> New bug: #103670 in rhythmbox (main) "[apport]  rhythmbox crashed with SIGSEGV in itdb_get_mountpoint()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/103670
[01:01] <ubotu> New bug: #103673 in arts (main) "[apport]  artsd crashed with SIGSEGV" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/103673
[01:05] <ubotu> New bug: #103674 in acpi-support (main) "Feisty breaks USB after resume on Thinkpad X30" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/103674
[01:10] <ubotu> New bug: #103667 in Ubuntu "unable to play .avi with media player in feisty" [Undecided,Rejected]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/103667
[01:10] <ubotu> New bug: #103676 in compiz (main) "vmware fullscreen does not work with compiz" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/103676
[01:10] <ubotu> New bug: #103677 in Ubuntu "Ubuntu feisty: Failed to set xfermode with 2.6.20-14" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/103677
[01:11] <ubotu> New bug: #103678 in mythtv (multiverse) "[apport]  mythbackend crashed with SIGSEGV in QMapPrivate<QString, QString>::find()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/103678
[01:11] <pochu> shirish: looking
[01:11] <shirish> pochu: thnx m8
[01:16] <ubotu> New bug: #103679 in linux-source-2.6.20 (main) "1 minute hang at boot - [ata2: failed to recover som devices] " [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/103679
[01:16] <ubotu> New bug: #103680 in util-linux (main) "[hwclock]  full path for a command possibly uncommented in init script" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/103680
[01:17] <shirish> pochu: tell me when u have looked into it some
[01:21] <ubotu> New bug: #103681 in smart (universe) "smartd needs to be enabled too many times" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/103681
[01:26] <ubotu> New bug: #103682 in beryl-core (universe) "[apport]  beryl crashed with SIGSEGV in finishScreenDrawing()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/103682
[01:28] <pochu> shirish: apport-retrace fails to retrace it because there is no "Package" field :-/
[01:31] <ubotu> New bug: #103683 in linux-source-2.6.20 (main) "USB drives not recognized in new kernel 2.6.20-9-generic" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/103683
[01:35] <ubotu> New bug: #103684 in Ubuntu "NetworkManager with rtl8187 crashes usb/hal" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/103684
[01:35] <ubotu> New bug: #103685 in gnome-media (main) "[apport]  gnome-volume-control crashed with SIGSEGV" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/103685
[01:35] <ubotu> New bug: #103686 in kmplayer (main) "[apport]  kxineplayer crashed with SIGSEGV in v_g_table()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/103686
[01:43] <pochu> shirish: sorry, I'm out of ideas :(
[01:55] <ubotu> New bug: #103690 in ndiswrapper (main) "Ndiswrapper can't connect to WPA network using 2.6.20-14-generic on amd64 (feisty)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/103690
[01:55] <ubotu> New bug: #103691 in Ubuntu "av5100 module broken" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/103691
[01:55] <ubotu> New bug: #103692 in xt (universe) "xtraceroute crashes each time" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/103692
[01:56] <ubotu> New bug: #103693 in Ubuntu "Wifi is turned off after each restart of Kubuntu using ndiswrapper" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/103693
[02:10] <ubotu> New bug: #103697 in gnome-panel (main) "[apport]  gnome-panel crashed with SIGSEGV" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/103697
[02:11] <ubotu> New bug: #103696 in linux-source-2.6.20 (main) "System fails to boot with 2.6.20-14" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/103696
[02:15] <ubotu> New bug: #103698 in Ubuntu "suspend does not sleep" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/103698
[02:15] <ubotu> New bug: #103699 in linux-source-2.6.20 (main) "Sound disappearing with Intel HDA AD1986A on 2.6.20-14-generic " [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/103699
[02:20] <ubotu> New bug: #103700 in mantis (universe) "package mantis fails to be correctly installed or even then removed" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/103700
[02:20] <ubotu> New bug: #103701 in openoffice.org (main) "openoffice 2.2 crashes when I try to save an .odt file (Ubuntu feisty)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/103701
[02:20] <ubotu> New bug: #103702 in Ubuntu "Cube not available" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/103702
[02:25] <ubotu> New bug: #103703 in Ubuntu "typo in partitial upgrade window" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/103703
[02:25] <ubotu> New bug: #103704 in Ubuntu "empty categories in alacarte (menu editor)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/103704
[02:30] <ubotu> New bug: #103705 in sl-modem (multiverse) "Not build on feisty" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/103705
[02:31] <ubotu> New bug: #103706 in kdenetwork (main) "krfb crashes after connecting with realvnc viewer" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/103706
[02:31] <ubotu> New bug: #103707 in Ubuntu "Gnome crashes when switching to second Desktop" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/103707
[02:31] <ubotu> New bug: #103708 in samba (main) "when setting up a simple file share, the samba server has no password set, and you are unable to access the share from a windows machiene." [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/103708
[02:31] <ubotu> New bug: #103709 in sensors-applet (universe) "[apport]  sensors-applet crashed with SIGSEGV in panel_applet_gconf_get_int()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/103709
[02:31] <ubotu> New bug: #103710 in Ubuntu ""okay" button in restart window" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/103710
[02:41] <ubotu> New bug: #103711 in jack-audio-connection-kit (universe) "[apport]  jackd crashed with SIGSEGV in pthread_join()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/103711
[02:41] <ubotu> New bug: #103712 in hwdb-client (main) "[apport]  hwdb-gui crashed with GError in draw_header()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/103712
[02:50] <ubotu> New bug: #103713 in xchat-gnome (main) "[apport]  xchat-gnome crashed with SIGSEGV in server_fill_her_up()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/103713
[02:55] <ubotu> New bug: #103714 in linux-source-2.6.20 (main) "linux-headers-2.6.20-14: "include/linux/mmc/protocol.h" missing" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/103714
[02:55] <ubotu> New bug: #103715 in gftp (main) "[apport]  gftp-gtk crashed with SIGSEGV in gtk_ctree_node_set_text()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/103715
[03:00] <ubotu> New bug: #103716 in twisted (main) "[apport]  twistd crashed with OperationalError in __init__()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/103716
[03:06] <ubotu> New bug: #103717 in update-manager (main) "update-manager crashes after the update reboot" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/103717
[03:11] <ubotu> New bug: #103718 in mplayerplug-in (multiverse) "mozilla-mplayer french translation has errors and fuzzy strings" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/103718
[03:15] <ubotu> New bug: #103720 in f-spot (main) "f-spot fails to import images with a space in there name" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/103720
[03:16] <ubotu> New bug: #103719 in linux-source-2.6.20 (main) "Won't return from suspend on emachines M6810" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/103719
[03:20] <ubotu> New bug: #103721 in kdepim (main) "kpilot usb device name through libusb or symlink?" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/103721
[03:26] <ubotu> New bug: #103722 in specto (universe) "specto crashes when monitoring file changes" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/103722
[03:31] <ubotu> New bug: #103723 in thin-client-manager (main) ""execute button" = alt+F2 menu" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/103723
[03:36] <ubotu> New bug: #103724 in Ubuntu "liferea crash when i clicking an video link (mpg,ogg, etc..)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/103724
[03:36] <ubotu> New bug: #103726 in gnome-panel (main) "[apport]  gnome-panel crashed with SIGSEGV in malloc()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/103726
[03:36] <ubotu> New bug: #103727 in tunapie (universe) "wrong architecture for binary package" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/103727
[03:41] <ubotu> New bug: #103728 in synaptic (main) "mistakes in the Finnish translation" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/103728
[03:41] <ubotu> New bug: #103729 in linux-meta (main) "kernel crashes on lvremove" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/103729
[03:41] <ubotu> New bug: #103730 in amarok (main) "amarok can't disconnect ipod on gnome" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/103730
[03:42] <alleyoopster> hi, I wanted to check if there is a kernel related bug with feisty which can cause cdrom not to be seen. There are some boot errors msg with ata2 and Buffer I/O errors. thanks
[03:50] <kivio> hi
[03:50] <ubotu> New bug: #103732 in Ubuntu "USB Hubs turn on and off" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/103732
[03:51] <kivio> after updating xorg some days ago wine crashes my x server
[03:51] <kivio> this is 100% reproducable
[03:51] <kivio> is this a known issue?
[03:56] <ubotu> New bug: #103733 in xchat-gnome (main) "[apport]  xchat-gnome crashed with SIGSEGV in g_object_ref()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/103733
[03:56] <ubotu> New bug: #103734 in gnome-utils (main) "[apport]  gnome-screenshot crashed with SIGSEGV in g_slist_foreach()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/103734
[03:56] <ubotu> New bug: #103735 in openoffice.org (main) "[apport]  package openoffice.org-draw failed to install/upgrade: " [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/103735
[03:56] <ubotu> New bug: #103736 in xserver-xgl (universe) "[apport]  Xgl crashed with SIGSEGV" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/103736
[04:01] <ubotu> New bug: #103737 in serpentine (main) "[apport]  serpentine crashed with RuntimeError: called outside of a mainloop" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/103737
[04:01] <ubotu> New bug: #103738 in Ubuntu "Timezone error in 7.04 beta installation" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/103738
[04:01] <ubotu> New bug: #103739 in Ubuntu "drive unmount status partially out of screen" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/103739
[04:01] <ubotu> New bug: #103740 in Ubuntu "drive unmount status partially out of screen" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/103740
[04:05] <pochu> Little noob question :) How can I assing a temporary variable in the terminal?
[04:05] <ubotu> New bug: #103741 in vlc (universe) "[apport]  vlc crashed with SIGSEGV in wxBaseArrayPtrVoid::Insert()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/103741
[04:05] <ubotu> New bug: #103742 in Ubuntu "IDE-hdd detected as SCSI" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/103742
[04:10] <ubotu> New bug: #103743 in beryl-core (universe) "[apport]  beryl crashed with SIGSEGV in XCloseDisplay()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/103743
[04:10] <ubotu> New bug: #103744 in Ubuntu "[apport]  hwdb-gui crashed with GError in draw_header()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/103744
[04:14] <pochu> I've found it :-)
[04:15] <ubotu> New bug: #103746 in linux-source-2.6.20 (main) "Problem with other apps running (screensaver interupt)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/103746
[04:15] <ubotu> New bug: #103748 in xserver-xgl (universe) "[apport]  Xgl crashed with SIGSEGV using FSPOT fullscreen" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/103748
[04:18] <alleyoopster> the ata bug I was searching for turns out to be a bug in the kernel. http://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=8244
[04:20] <ubotu> New bug: #103745 in Ubuntu "Konqueror unable to open .desktop web links" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/103745
[04:20] <ubotu> New bug: #103747 in metacity (main) "metacity (ubuntu) + xcompmgr : issue with XShapeCombineRectangles" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/103747
[04:31] <ubotu> New bug: #103750 in amarok (main) "amarok crashes when i save the session and let it open" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/103750
[04:36] <ubotu> New bug: #103752 in Ubuntu "Closing System Info" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/103752
[04:36] <ubotu> New bug: #103754 in Ubuntu "[apport]  yelp crashed with SIGSEGV in server_get_url_list()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/103754
[04:36] <ubotu> New bug: #103755 in Ubuntu "Installation crash/halt" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/103755
[04:40] <ubotu> New bug: #103753 in update-manager (main) "Update manager stalls at ""preparing to configure libdecoration0"" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/103753
[04:40] <ubotu> New bug: #103756 in totem (main) "Editing names of mp3 on nautilus" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/103756
[04:45] <ubotu> New bug: #103758 in synaptic (main) "[apport]  synaptic crashed with SIGSEGV in strlen()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/103758
[04:50] <ubotu> New bug: #103759 in vbetool (main) "ubuntu wouldnt come back from suspend" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/103759
[04:56] <ubotu> New bug: #103760 in aptoncd (universe) "[apport]  aptoncd.py crashed with UnboundLocalError in createAptOnCD()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/103760
[05:01] <ubotu> New bug: #103762 in Ubuntu "Restricted Modules Not Updated" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/103762
[05:01] <ubotu> New bug: #103763 in freej (universe) "[apport]  freej crashed with SIGSEGV in FT_Done_Face()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/103763
[05:06] <ubotu> New bug: #103764 in dvdauthor (universe) "dvdwizard crashed" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/103764
[05:10] <ubotu> New bug: #103767 in gnome-panel (main) "wish: clock applet widget will be shown when mouse move over the panel applet" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/103767
[05:10] <ubotu> New bug: #103770 in dmraid (universe) "dmraid 4th disk problem" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/103770
[05:16] <ubotu> New bug: #103768 in linux-source-2.6.20 (main) "softmac and network-manager cite unreconcilable differences" [Critical,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/103768
[05:20] <ubotu> New bug: #103771 in Ubuntu "ubuntu start up slower..." [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/103771
[05:26] <ubotu> New bug: #103772 in pykaraoke (universe) "[apport]  pykaraoke crashed with AttributeError in colourUpdateMs()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/103772
[05:31] <ubotu> New bug: #103774 in kde4base (universe) "[apport]  ksmserver crashed with SIGSEGV" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/103774
[05:35] <ubotu> New bug: #103773 in Ubuntu "Kubuntu / Ubuntu does not boot" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/103773
[05:40] <ubotu> New bug: #103775 in mythtv (multiverse) "[apport]  mythfrontend.real crashed with SIGSEGV" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/103775
[05:40] <ubotu> New bug: #103776 in xsane (main) "[apport]  xsane crashed with SIGSEGV" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/103776
[05:46] <ubotu> New bug: #103778 in firefox (main) "[apport]  firefox-bin crashed with SIGSEGV in __kernel_vsyscall()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/103778
[05:46] <ubotu> New bug: #103779 in xubuntu-meta (main) "Xubuntu install failed" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/103779
[05:46] <ubotu> New bug: #103780 in linux-source-2.6.20 (main) "IDE drive hangs boot for ~2 minutes after 2.6.20-13=>2.6.20-14" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/103780
[05:50] <ubotu> New bug: #103782 in gnome-panel (main) "Losing panel when switching Desktops" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/103782
[05:55] <ubotu> New bug: #103783 in Ubuntu "dpkg hangs" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/103783
[05:55] <ubotu> New bug: #103784 in firefox (main) "Firefox crashes when trying to open Down Them All extension" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/103784
[05:55] <ubotu> New bug: #103785 in gnome-panel (main) "[apport]  gnome-panel crashed with SIGSEGV in wnck_workspace_get_width()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/103785
[06:01] <ubotu> New bug: #103781 in network-manager (main) "[Feisty]  Network Manager can't associate WEP even right passphrase is given" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/103781
[06:01] <ubotu> New bug: #103786 in meta-kde (main) "appl. KUICKSHOW crashes signal 11 (sigsev) bug" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/103786
[06:01] <ubotu> New bug: #103787 in exaile (universe) "[apport]  exaile.py crashed with SIGSEGV in gtk_tree_view_remove_column()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/103787
[06:01] <ubotu> New bug: #103788 in gnome-panel (main) "on spanish install, when adding desktops to tray, desktop 1 name remains in english" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/103788
[06:06] <ubotu> New bug: #103789 in beryl-core (universe) "[apport]  beryl crashed with SIGSEGV in XPending()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/103789
[06:06] <ubotu> New bug: #103790 in Ubuntu "external USB HDD canno't unmout" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/103790
[06:15] <ubotu> New bug: #103791 in Ubuntu "[needs-packaging]  pcsx2" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/103791
[06:15] <ubotu> New bug: #103792 in linux-source-2.6.20 (main) "Sound fails when changing the volume of snd_hda_intel (OK in 2.6.20-13)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/103792
[06:15] <ubotu> New bug: #103793 in gnome-utils (main) "[apport]  gnome-system-log crashed with SIGSEGV in g_datalist_id_set_data_full()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/103793
[06:20] <ubotu> New bug: #103794 in parted (main) "Cannot have overlapping partitions" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/103794
[06:20] <ubotu> New bug: #103795 in Ubuntu "x-button doesn't close windows any more" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/103795
[06:25] <ubotu> New bug: #103796 in audacity (universe) "[apport]  audacity crashed with SIGSEGV" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/103796
[06:25] <ubotu> New bug: #103797 in monodevelop (universe) "[apport]  MonoDevelop.exe crashed with SIGSEGV" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/103797
[06:31] <ubotu> New bug: #103798 in gaim (main) "[apport]  gaim-url-handler crashed with Error in __call__()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/103798
[06:31] <ubotu> New bug: #103799 in hwdb-client (main) "Crash during nework test" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/103799
[06:31] <ubotu> New bug: #103800 in hwdb-client (main) "[apport]  hwdb-gui crashed with GError in draw_header()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/103800
[06:31] <ubotu> New bug: #103801 in Ubuntu "no power management, laptop dies when out of power" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/103801
[06:36] <ubotu> New bug: #103802 in nautilus-share (universe) "Lack of documentation" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/103802
[06:36] <ubotu> New bug: #103803 in meta-gnome2 (universe) "feisty - gnome - where did the bug reporting entry in system (on panel) go" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/103803
[06:36] <ubotu> New bug: #103804 in knetworkmanager (main) "NetworkManager does not show an icon on KDE" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/103804
[06:41] <ubotu> New bug: #103805 in firefox (main) "Very Slow Secure Websites" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/103805
[06:41] <ubotu> New bug: #103806 in Ubuntu "It is impossible to install ATI drivers, and to activate desktop effects in 7,04 on my iMac Core Duo" [Undecided,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/103806
[06:46] <ubotu> New bug: #103807 in Ubuntu "HP  TC4400 Tablet PC Setting sensors limits Fails at boot up" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/103807
[06:50] <ubotu> New bug: #103808 in compiz (main) "After activating desktop effects, windows get "squeezed" and stop responding" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/103808
[06:50] <ubotu> New bug: #103809 in gaim (main) "[apport]  gaim crashed with SIGSEGV" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/103809
[06:50] <ubotu> New bug: #103810 in Ubuntu "Firefox crashes with restart" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/103810
[06:50] <ubotu> New bug: #103811 in rdesktop (main) "[apport]  rdesktop crashed with SIGSEGV in XPutImage()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/103811
[07:06] <dudicus> anyone alive? I can't seem to find the link to the chroot webpage
[07:06] <dudicus> that is the page that tells me how to create a chroot for say dapper when I am running feisty
[07:07] <micahcowan> look for pbuilder, I think
[07:07] <micahcowan> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PbuilderHowto
[07:10] <dudicus> sweetness
[07:10] <ubotu> New bug: #103812 in vym (universe) "Doesn't See network printers installed on system." [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/103812
[07:15] <ubotu> New bug: #103814 in Ubuntu "Acer Aspire 2100, keyboard dead on suspend resume." [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/103814
[07:20] <ubotu> New bug: #103815 in Ubuntu "Canon MP130: Memory card reader "seen" as hard disk" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/103815
[07:29] <Zennor> 103810 seems not to be a bug, to my mind it's quite common, so can I write that this behaviour is known?
[07:29] <cypher1> bug 103810
[07:29] <ubotu> Malone bug 103810 in Ubuntu "Firefox crashes with restart" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/103810
[07:31] <ubotu> New bug: #103817 in Ubuntu "Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/universe/d/drive/drivel_2.0.2-Subuntu1_i386.deb" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/103817
[07:31] <ubotu> New bug: #103818 in ttf-arphic-ukai (main) "fatal crash during dist-upgrade (edgy->feisty)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/103818
[07:31] <ubotu> New bug: #103819 in console-setup (main) "post-install script of console-setup returned 20" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/103819
[07:31] <ubotu> New bug: #103820 in rhythmbox (main) "[apport]  rhythmbox crashed with SIGSEGV" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/103820
[07:31] <ubotu> New bug: #103821 in tracker (universe) "[apport]  tracker-extract crashed with SIGSEGV in strlen()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/103821
[07:35] <ubotu> New bug: #103822 in gnome-cups-manager (main) "[apport]  gnome-cups-manager crashed with SIGSEGV in g_signal_emit_valist()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/103822
[07:35] <ubotu> New bug: #103823 in network-manager (main) "[apport]  NetworkManager crashed with signal 5 in main()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/103823
[07:40] <ubotu> New bug: #103824 in hwdb-client (main) "Ubuntu hardware database crash - Feisty" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/103824
[07:45] <ubotu> New bug: #103826 in Ubuntu "pc freeze after inserting root password" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/103826
[07:45] <ubotu> New bug: #103827 in boson (universe) "[apport]  boson crashed with SIGSEGV" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/103827
[07:48] <dudicus> gt
[07:50] <ubotu> New bug: #103825 in Ubuntu "foomatic-filters freezing Feisty current net install at 18%" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/103825
[07:51] <ubotu> New bug: #103828 in Ubuntu "[needs packaging]  Simple Invoices" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/103828
[08:06] <ubotu> New bug: #103688 in liferea (main) "liferea crashes - ** ERROR **: file itemlist.c: line 172 (itemlist_load): assertion failed: (NULL != itemSet)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/103688
[08:06] <ubotu> New bug: #103830 in synaptic (main) "[apport]  synaptic crashed with SIGSEGV" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/103830
[08:09] <nrg88> hi guys
[08:09] <nrg88> i've fixed a bug
[08:09] <nrg88> how do i make a diff file?
[08:09] <nrg88> i want to post the patch and the deb file
[08:09] <nrg88> so it can be tested, and so on
[08:10] <nrg88> it's the 1st time i do this
[08:10] <nrg88> can someone help me in releasing the patch?
[08:10] <ubotu> New bug: #103832 in tracker (universe) "[apport]  tracker-extract crashed with SIGSEGV in strlen()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/103832
[08:11] <ubotu> New bug: #103831 in hal (main) "Nokia 5300 FDI" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/103831
[08:13] <nrg88> or is there a howto about it?
[08:13] <nrg88> anyone active here? :?
[08:20] <ubotu> New bug: #103833 in totem (main) "[apport]  totem-video-thumbnailer crashed with SIGSEGV" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/103833
[08:20] <ubotu> New bug: #103834 in apport (main) "[apport]  package_hook crashed with ValueError in _get_field()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/103834
[08:21] <micahcowan> hey nrg
[08:21] <micahcowan> hey nrg88
[08:21] <nrg88> hi
[08:21] <nrg88> i've downloaded the source of kubuntu-default-settings
[08:22] <nrg88> cause i wanted to fix this bug that stopped you from installing a package which had spaces in it's path
[08:22] <nrg88> i've modified 2 files
[08:22] <nrg88> now i want to create a diff ile
[08:22] <nrg88> and a deb file, so it can be tested
[08:22] <nrg88> and later on approved
[08:23] <nrg88> do you know anything about diff files micahcowan?
[08:23] <micahcowan> You'll get the most help in #ubuntu-motu; why don't you ask over there (I'm in there, too: I'd just prefer that any answers I give you get the benefit of peer review ;) )
[08:23] <nrg88> pl
[08:23] <nrg88> ok
[08:23] <nrg88> thanks
[08:25] <ubotu> New bug: #103835 in firefox (main) "[apport]  firefox-bin crashed with SIGSEGV in __kernel_vsyscall()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/103835
[08:31] <ubotu> New bug: #103836 in hwdb-client (main) "device database se cierra inesperadamente" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/103836
[08:31] <ubotu> New bug: #103837 in hwdb-client (main) "device database se cierra inesperadamente" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/103837
[08:31] <ubotu> New bug: #103838 in firefox (main) "firefox with gmx-mail" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/103838
[08:41] <ferronica> The application that crashed is not known to bug-buddy, therefore the bug report can not be sent to the GNOME Bugzilla.  Please save the bug to a text file and report it to the appropriate bug tracker for this application.
[08:41] <ubotu> New bug: #103839 in totem (main) "totem crashes entire machine, leaves black screen with garbage." [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/103839
[08:41] <ubotu> New bug: #103840 in ubuntu-meta (main) "tleds won't install" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/103840
[08:42] <ferronica> any help
[08:42] <ferronica> The application that crashed is not known to bug-buddy, therefore the bug report can not be sent to the GNOME Bugzilla.  Please save the bug to a text file and report it to the appropriate bug tracker for this application.
[08:44] <bdmurray> which version of Ubuntu?
[08:45] <ubotu> New bug: #103841 in Ubuntu "Problrma com o GDM" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/103841
[08:45] <ubotu> New bug: #103842 in pbnj (universe) "[Sync Request]  Sync pbnj (2.04-4) from Debian unstable (main)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/103842
[08:46] <ferronica> bdmurray: ubutnu 6.10 edgy
[08:47] <ferronica> bdmurray: any idea what happend
[08:47] <ferronica> bdmurray: ?
[08:48] <bdmurray> ferronica: not particularly do you have apport installed?
[08:48] <ferronica> bdmurray: what apport??
[08:49] <ferronica> bdmurray: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/14250/
[08:49] <ferronica> bdmurray: check this
[08:49] <ferronica> bdmurray: report generated.
[08:50] <gnomefreak> https://launchpad.net/  file the bug at this link. any other questions please join # ubuntu and ask
[08:50] <ubotu> New bug: #103843 in graphicsmagick (universe) "[Sync request]  Sync graphicsmagick (1.1.7-14) from Debian unstable (main)" [Undecided,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/103843
[08:50] <bdmurray> apport - automatically generate crash reports for debugging
[08:50] <ferronica> bdmurray: ?
[08:52] <ferronica> bdmurray: its generated crash report i think that i pasted
[08:53] <gnomefreak> ferronica: file the bug at the link i gave you and someone will look at it when they get a chance.
[08:53] <bdmurray> apport should help you automatically report the crash also
[08:55] <ubotu> New bug: #103844 in jikes (universe) "jikes-gij not installable due to libgcj" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/103844
[09:01] <ubotu> New bug: #103845 in gnome-mount (main) "Gnome doesn't auto mount my SD memory" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/103845
[09:06] <ubotu> New bug: #103846 in network-manager (main) "nm-applet does not retain settings over reboot" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/103846
[09:06] <ubotu> New bug: #103847 in thunar (main) "wrong path for help in Thunar-settings" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/103847
[09:06] <ubotu> New bug: #103848 in firefox (main) "OS_ARCH!=Linux " [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/103848
[09:10] <ubotu> New bug: #103849 in Ubuntu "boot problem" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/103849
[09:10] <ubotu> New bug: #103850 in telepathy-butterfly (universe) "[apport]  telepathy-butterfly crashed with AssertionError in send()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/103850
[09:21] <ubotu> New bug: #103851 in Ubuntu "artem pcmcia card no function at startup" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/103851
[09:31] <ubotu> New bug: #103852 in gnome-applets (main) "[apport]  cpufreq-applet crashed with SIGSEGV in _start()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/103852
[09:36] <ubotu> New bug: #103853 in hwdb-client (main) "[apport]  hwdb-gui crashed with GError in draw_header()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/103853
[09:41] <ubotu> New bug: #103854 in samba (main) "when you add a shared folder the window you are presented with is to narrow to fit its contents." [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/103854
[09:45] <ubotu> New bug: #103855 in Ubuntu "[apport]  guidance-power-manager.py crashed with ImportError in <module>()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/103855
[09:45] <ubotu> New bug: #103856 in electricsheep (universe) "electricsheep has wrong resolution in gnome-screensaver" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/103856
[09:47] <Xk2c> hello
[09:48] <Xk2c> i have a question about bug handling
[09:48] <Xk2c> hwdb has crashed here
[09:48] <Xk2c> aport took me to launchpad
[09:48] <Xk2c> and there i saw under "Your bug may have already been reported" there a lot of just the same bugs
[09:49] <Xk2c> should i now set them to "confirmed" ?
[09:49] <Xk2c> should these be duplicates?
[09:50] <ubotu> New bug: #103857 in hardinfo (universe) "hardinfo crash" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/103857
[09:50] <micahcowan> Not everything launchpad suggests as duplicates necessarily are: it means for you to check through that list to see if you find any. If you do, then confirm it. :)
[09:51] <Xk2c> e.g.
[09:51] <Xk2c> 102061  	 [apport]  hwdb-gui crashed with GError in draw_header()
[09:51] <Xk2c> 102874  	 [apport]  hwdb-gui crashed with GError in draw_header()
[09:51] <Xk2c> 103524  	 [apport]  hwdb-gui crashed with GError in draw_header()"
[09:51] <Xk2c> and sooo on
[09:52] <Xk2c> at least there 10 only in the overvie
[09:52] <Xk2c> w
[09:55] <micahcowan> Xk2c, is that also what you were reporting?
[09:56] <Xk2c> jap
[09:56] <ubotu> New bug: #103858 in netmon-applet (universe) "Wrong Category for netmon-applet" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/103858
[09:56] <ubotu> New bug: #103859 in gnome-vfs2 (main) "[apport]  gnome-vfs-daemon crashed with SIGSEGV" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/103859
[09:56] <Xk2c> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/hwdb-client/+bug/102061
[09:56] <ubotu> Malone bug 102061 in hwdb-client "[apport]  hwdb-gui crashed with GError in draw_header()" [Medium,Confirmed]
[09:56] <Xk2c> this one is the same
[09:56] <Xk2c> and already "confirmed"
[09:56] <micahcowan> Probably pick one with the most info (or else an arbitrary one) and mark  the rest as dupes.
[09:56] <Xk2c> ic
[09:56] <Xk2c> ok
[09:56] <Xk2c> will do
[09:56] <micahcowan> Or the one already confirmed... :)
[09:57] <Xk2c> thanks for the info
[09:57] <Xk2c> :)
[09:57] <Xk2c> cya
[10:01] <ubotu> New bug: #103860 in gtkpod-aac (multiverse) "Crashed when iPod directory was changed." [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/103860
[10:05] <ubotu> New bug: #103861 in beryl-core (universe) "[apport]  beryl crashed with SIGSEGV in XPending()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/103861
[10:11] <danohuiginn> is bug importance relative to the package, or to ubuntu as a whole?
[10:12] <danohuiginn> i.e. should a major bug in a little-used package be set to important?
[10:15] <ubotu> New bug: #103863 in apport (main) "does not intercept crashes of some daemons" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/103863
[10:20] <unfo> hi all, I have filed 20 or so ubuntu bugs but I am not a ubuntu developer or anything.  How do I forward a bug in emacs-snapshot to the upstream bugs mailing list?
[10:21] <ubotu> New bug: #103864 in arts (main) "[apport]  artsd crashed with SIGSEGV in Arts::Dispatcher::terminate()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/103864
[10:21] <ubotu> New bug: #103865 in kdebase (main) "[apport]  kicker crashed with SIGSEGV in TaskContainer::updateKickerTip()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/103865
[10:21] <ubotu> New bug: #103866 in lvm2 (main) "LVM no longer works" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/103866
[10:21] <unfo> (Emacs does not have their own bugtracker AFAIK.  They use a bugs mailing list.)
[10:26] <ubotu> New bug: #103867 in gaim (main) "gaim crashes  while multiple messages are received" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/103867
[10:26] <ubotu> New bug: #103868 in hplip (main) "Always prints to A4 paper" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/103868
[10:27] <bdmurray> unfo: without a bugtracker there isn't a way to link to upstreams bug so it'll take manual work on your part
[10:27] <unfo> bdmurray: what is the work involved?
[10:29] <unfo> how do i forward a bug upstream to a mailing list so that list members can click "Reply to All" and replies will get into launchpad?
[10:30] <bdmurray> finding out if it is has already been reported, finding out if upstream requires any special information, mailing the mailing list about the bug and updating bug report in lp with whatever you find out
[10:31] <bdmurray> not sure about having their replies going to lp
[10:32] <unfo> all : how do i forward a bug upstream to a mailing list so that list members can click "Reply to All" and replies will get into launchpad?
[10:32] <bdmurray> they may not want their replies to go into lp
[10:33] <unfo> bdmurray: i'll search the upstream mailing list archives at gmane.org to see if it was reported already.
[10:33] <unfo> bdmurray: why not?
[10:33] <bdmurray> I don't know they just might prefer that it didn't show up in lp
[10:34] <unfo> bdmurray: do you know of any case, ever, in the past, where upstream didn't want their replies to go to lp?  Note that the emacs-pretest-bug mailing list is publically archived.
[10:35] <bdmurray> unfo: no, not personally
[10:36] <unfo> bdmurray: ok.  So since it's publicly archived, i'll assume they don't mind unless they tell me otherwise; makes sense?
[10:36] <ubotu> New bug: #103869 in Ubuntu "[apport]  gnome-dictionary crashed with SIGSEGV in strlen()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/103869
[10:36] <bdmurray> I'd ask first
[10:38] <unfo> bdmurray: ok; how about this: I warn them their replies will be archived, and tell them to remove lp from the CC field if they don't want that?
[10:39] <bdmurray> seems fair
[10:41] <ubotu> New bug: #103871 in hplip (main) "[apport]  hpssd.py crashed with IOError in __init__()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/103871
[10:41] <ubotu> New bug: #103872 in ifupdown (main) "Don't bring up the virtual interfaces like eth0:1 during Feisty boot" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/103872
[10:41] <ubotu> New bug: #103873 in iceauth (main) "[apport]  iceauth crashed with SIGSEGV in strlen()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/103873
[10:50] <unfo> all : how do i forward a bug upstream to a mailing list so that list members can click "Reply to All" and replies will get into launchpad?
[11:01] <ubotu> New bug: #103875 in totem (main) "totem mozillaplug doesn't play and/or crashes" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/103875
[11:01] <ubotu> New bug: #103876 in Ubuntu "[feisty beta]  shutdown is incomplete" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/103876
[11:01] <ubotu> New bug: #103877 in evolution (main) "Crash on start-up (libevolution-calendar.so)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/103877
[11:06] <ubotu> New bug: #103878 in system-config-printer (main) "[apport]  system-config-printer.py crashed with SIGSEGV in free() //trying to print test page on my Canon i560 " [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/103878
[11:06] <ubotu> New bug: #103879 in beryl-core (universe) "deselected title bar, maximized home, 1440x900@60hz" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/103879
[11:06] <ubotu> New bug: #103880 in firefox (main) "firefox crashed when opening a new tab" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/103880
[11:06] <ubotu> New bug: #103881 in apt (main) "apt-get remove does not actually require a "Y" to remove packages" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/103881
[11:10] <ubotu> New bug: #103882 in human-icon-theme (main) "human-icon-theme missing gtk-stock-no" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/103882
[11:15] <ubotu> New bug: #103883 in Ubuntu "[feisty beta]  energy saving modes don't work" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/103883
[11:15] <ubotu> New bug: #103885 in jigdo (universe) "[apport]  jigdo-file crashed with signal 25 in __kernel_vsyscall()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/103885
[11:15] <ubotu> New bug: #103887 in firefox (main) "Crash on flash website" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/103887
[11:21] <ubotu> New bug: #103884 in Ubuntu "Weird Colors on Nividia second DVI" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/103884
[11:21] <ubotu> New bug: #103888 in gnome-panel (main) "[apport]  gnome-panel crashed with SIGSEGV in xmlNextChar()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/103888
[11:26] <ubotu> New bug: #103889 in Ubuntu "[feisty beta]  keyboard shortcuts problem" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/103889
[11:26] <ubotu> New bug: #103890 in Ubuntu "[feisty beta]  screen brightness problem" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/103890
[11:30] <ubotu> New bug: #103891 in coreutils (main) "[apport]  stty crashed with SIGSEGV" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/103891
[11:30] <ubotu> New bug: #103892 in hwdb-client (main) "[apport]  hwdb-gui crashed with GError in draw_header()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/103892
[11:35] <ubotu> New bug: #103893 in alacarte (main) "[apport]  alacarte crashed with IOError in on_edit_properties_activate()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/103893
[11:35] <ubotu> New bug: #103894 in alsa-utils (main) "alsamixer doesn't save IEC958 Optical Raw state" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/103894
[11:40] <ubotu> New bug: #103895 in gimp (main) "Gimp closes unexpectedly " [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/103895
[11:40] <ubotu> New bug: #103896 in evolution (main) "Poor print formatting in Evolution" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/103896
[11:44] <Amaranth> can someone change the importance of bug 97460 to as high as you can go? :)
[11:44] <ubotu> Malone bug 97460 in update-notifier "on upgrade files in $HOME are owned by root so alacarte dies" [Medium,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/97460
[11:46] <bdmurray> It looks like someone was looking for steps to reproduce the bug
[11:47] <Amaranth> bdmurray: I can give you steps to reproduce: upgrade from edgy to feisty
[11:47] <Amaranth> i haven't tried it but i've had about 20 of these bugs filed against alacarte and they're all upgraders
[11:49] <bdmurray> update-manager keeps logs in /var/log/dist-upgrade has anybody submitted those?
[11:49] <stgraber> someone should try with a fresh edgy then do the upgrade and check
[11:50] <bdmurray> I'm looking at an Edgy system I upgraded now
[11:51] <ubotu> New bug: #103898 in Ubuntu "Feisty randomly fails to boot and BusyBox shell started" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/103898
[11:51] <ubotu> New bug: #103899 in Ubuntu "swap partition is not used" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/103899
[11:51] <ubotu> New bug: #103900 in gaim (main) "gaim crashes reported the valdgrim log" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/103900
[11:56] <ubotu> New bug: #103901 in xfdesktop4 (main) "logout/in required to make desktop icons appear (xubuntu feisty)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/103901
[12:00] <ubotu> New bug: #103903 in ieee80211 (universe) "Intel wi-fi does not work in my Feisty beta" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/103903