[00:15] <bluesabre> flocculant: I wonder if the installer requires libinput
[00:17] <bluesabre> A good way to test would be loading directly into the desktop instead of ubiquity, "Try Xubuntu" instead of auto or "Install Xubuntu"
[00:17] <bluesabre> Will try to look into this tonight
[03:08] <bluesabre> flocculant: I see what you mean now, there is no response whatsoever
[03:09] <bluesabre> The clock advances though, so it's not frozen, just accepting no input
[03:13] <bluesabre> I think adding xserver-xorg-input-all will fix it
[03:14] <bluesabre> Might as well give it a shot :D
[03:35] <bluesabre> akxwi-dave, flocculant: Pushed a new xubuntu-meta (xubuntu-desktop and xubuntu-core packages), respin tomorrow if 2.217 is in the archive but not in the iso, and I think it should work again. https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xubuntu-meta/2.217
[03:35] <bluesabre> night all
[03:49] <Unit193> bluesabre: Didn't just boot to console, install, and start lightdm?
[03:59] <flocculant> bluesabre: ack - sitting in -proposed currently
[04:37] <flocculant> well that took some finding ... how to start live to console
[04:38] <flocculant> instead of adding 'text' use 'systemd.unit=multi-user.target' instead, so easy to remember
[04:39] <flocculant> anyway - adding -input-all gets things working seemingly, though that ^^ ended me at xfce session :P
[05:30] <flocculant> bluesabre: ok - rebuilt iso, got input now \o/
[05:31] <flocculant> akxwi-dave: re vm's in virt-manager, boot without splash or you can change the video type from qxl to cirrus and it will work
[06:08] <Unit193> Exactly..
[06:09] <flocculant> exactly which :p
[06:16] <Unit193> 'text' being ever so much more useful...
[06:16] <flocculant> oh right - yea, that only wasted 20 minutes of my life ...
[06:20] <flocculant> bit confused with bug 1047384 atm, doesn't say it's fixed, but appears to be working here ok, not sure why not having splash would affect it lol
[10:54] <akxwi-dave> flocculant: cheers on that..
[11:39] <flocculant> akxwi-dave: np - bit slower but it works :p
[16:44] <flocculant> can't see the encrypt bug on hardware either
[16:45] <flocculant> kbd was definitely US - used it in terminal and # was /, set the password and it worked when I rebooted
[16:45] <flocculant> would be useful to have that confirmed by someone not in the US
[19:26] <ochosi> evening all
[19:27] <ochosi> flocculant: do we still have that double network manager problem?
[19:27] <ochosi> or what happened when you restarted nm-applet? in theory also restarting the networking service should work (systemctl restart networking)
[19:28] <flocculant> ochosi: I had 2 here a couple of hours ago - didn't remember what you said about restarting nm-applet - restarting panel lost it
[19:29] <flocculant> just booting vm
[19:30] <flocculant> 1
[19:31] <flocculant> but I'm quite positive that people will see 2 at times


[00:01] <lynorian> 5am my time
[00:03] <tsimonq2> wxl: is that okay with you, if it lines up perfectly, for me to announce the releases?
[00:03] <tsimonq2> before I go to school, that is
[00:03] <wxl> knock yourself out tsimonq2
[00:06] <lynorian> ok this is the live session of amd 64 is done and I have done manual install
[00:06] <tsimonq2> awesome wxl "_
[00:06] <tsimonq2> *:)
[00:07] <wxl> thx for all the help tsimonq2
[00:07] <tsimonq2> np
[00:07] <tsimonq2> 6:21:17 PM < infinity> flocculant: If all goes well, we expect to release between 12 and 2 London time, so ticking things ready a  couple of hours before  that (say, 9 UTC) would be nice.
[00:07] <tsimonq2> 12 PM London time is 6 AM my time
[00:07] <tsimonq2> that's when I wake up
[00:07] <tsimonq2> and I leave by 7:15-7:20
[00:07] <tsimonq2> so it *should* work out fine
[00:08] <tsimonq2> oh shoot, I'll see if Julien is online...
[00:08] <tsimonq2> :( nope
[00:08] <tsimonq2> I assume he will be around tomorrow?
[00:33] <tsimonq2> could someone add the Ubuntu Etherpad and Ubuntu Wiki situation to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/GettingInvolved ?
[00:34] <tsimonq2> I'll do it later if someone doesn't...
[06:33] <palasso> hello I will spin up 7 DigitalOcean droplets (all the cities DO has servers) to seed. Are the torrents ready?
[10:37] <tsimonq2> palasso: not yet, wait for the announcement :)
[10:38] <palasso> ok ty
[10:39] <tsimonq2> confirmed bug 1370707
[10:42] <tsimonq2> confirmed bug 1484785
[10:43] <tsimonq2> confirmed bug 1572429
[10:49] <tsimonq2> confirmed bug 1547302
[10:51] <tsimonq2> confirmed bug 1571255
[11:00] <tsimonq2> lxpanel volume applet settings opens empty terminal window (1434774 Workaround Exists)
[11:00] <tsimonq2> lubuntu-software-center only lists installed applications from alternate install (1467517 Workaround Exists)
[11:47] <tsimonq2> 06:07:13 AM -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Builds: Ubuntu Mate Desktop amd64 [Xenial Final] has been marked as ready
[11:47] <tsimonq2> 06:07:13 AM -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Builds: Ubuntu Mate Desktop i386 [Xenial Final] has been marked as ready
[11:47] <tsimonq2> 06:07:13 AM -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Builds: Ubuntu Mate Desktop powerpc [Xenial Final] has been marked as ready
[11:47] <tsimonq2> whoops, meant to paste that into #ubuntu-release-party :)
[13:16] <teward> tsimonq2: poke
[13:53] <redwolf> wxl, please ping me
[16:18] <flexiondotorg> wxl, teward, tsimonq2, phillw You are needed in #ubuntu-release
[16:18] <teward> flexiondotorg: i have no say in Lubuntu in #ubuntu-release
[16:19] <teward> nor do I have any say for Server, etc.
[16:19] <teward> i'm also already tehre
[16:19] <teward> flexiondotorg: i also didn't do PPC tests at all
[17:12] <tsimonq2> flexiondotorg: I'm around, someone still needed?
[17:13] <tsimonq2> wxl: I see the blog post isn't released, need revisions before release?
[17:13] <tsimonq2> wxl: or what's up with that?
[17:15] <tsimonq2> phillw, wxl: were NO release announcements sent out? I can help
[17:15] <tsimonq2> I'm here until :55
[17:15] <phillw> tsimonq2: I'm waiting on you!!!
[17:16] <tsimonq2>  /o\
[17:16] <phillw> tsimonq2: the wolf should be back imminently from his neck massage.
[17:16] <tsimonq2> what do you need from me?
[17:16] <tsimonq2> Rafael hasn't given me access to lubuntu.me
[17:16] <tsimonq2> I haven't posted anything else
[17:16] <tsimonq2> ahhhhhhh
[17:17] <tsimonq2> I'll get G+ quick
[17:17] <tsimonq2> wait...
[17:17] <phillw> tsimonq2:  ML :) Look at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/Developers/PrePostReleaseTODO#Use_press_announcement
[17:17] <tsimonq2> OH
[17:17] <tsimonq2> yeah
[17:17] <tsimonq2> I'll do that
[17:17] <tsimonq2> wait
[17:17] <phillw> All I've done is post the link for the release notes wiki page :)
[17:18] <phillw> simply to stop people asking "is it out yet?!!" :P
[17:18] <tsimonq2> do I need to indicate that alternate images are oversized?
[17:18] <phillw> it is in the notes, along with using server iso for language and/or WiFi capability.
[17:19] <tsimonq2> so it's NOT needed in the release announcement?
[17:20] <phillw> tsimonq2: this is what they currently have... https://wiki.ubuntu.com/XenialXerus/ReleaseNotes/Lubuntu
[17:21] <tsimonq2> fine
[17:21] <tsimonq2> good
[17:21] <tsimonq2> okay
[17:21] <phillw> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/Alternate_ISO has the details for using server CD
[17:21] <tsimonq2> so am I clear to release the ML announcement?
[17:21] <tsimonq2> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1AFtWbk8C9drelPWlAAQWBtstHjkXot6-XL3Z7dx6A64/edit
[17:21] <phillw> indeed.
[17:22] <phillw> and update the TODO page with your nick so we know it's been done :)
[17:22] <tsimonq2> k
[17:22] <tsimonq2> I had Julien check it over this morning BTW
[17:22] <tsimonq2> he acked
[17:23] <phillw> good :)
[17:23] <phillw> we always like a proof read of things!!
[17:23] <tsimonq2> who do I send it to?
[17:24] <tsimonq2> I want to be fast, so direct email addresses preferred please
[17:24] <tsimonq2> (if there are more)
[17:25] <phillw> nope, just to the dev and user MLs will be fine :)
[17:25] <tsimonq2> alright :)
[17:26] <tsimonq2> phillw: and the release notes are fine?
[17:29] <tsimonq2> email sent
[17:30] <tsimonq2> teacher needs be bbs
[17:30] <tsimonq2> *me
[17:31] <phillw> seem to be :)
[17:33] <phillw> tsimonq2: a bit easier, as with final - we can point to ubuntu release notes for common issues, instead of picking which we mention which is the case with milestones.
[17:41] <tsimonq2> back
[17:41] <tsimonq2> yeah
[17:43] <tsimonq2> phillw: please just post the blog post
[17:43] <tsimonq2> (and put my name on there in small letters so they know who to blame :P)
[17:43] <tsimonq2> then the others can be released
[17:44] <tsimonq2> phillw: and you are the only other person online to do that that has access to lubuntu.me
[17:46] <phillw> i am, but rafael needs to edit his blog post :)
[17:46] <tsimonq2> alright
[17:46] <tsimonq2> phillw: I take off in 10 minutes, please remind him
[17:47] <tsimonq2> phillw: and please use what I've written out
[17:47] <tsimonq2> (assuming it's wordpress, source mode if you could)
[17:47] <tsimonq2> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1AFtWbk8C9drelPWlAAQWBtstHjkXot6-XL3Z7dx6A64/edit
[17:47] <phillw> also, instead of sending people to cdimage (which is getting hammered) it is better to send them to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/GetLubuntu as it asks that they use torrent and mentions the mirror :)
[17:47] <tsimonq2> I see
[17:47] <tsimonq2> well too late for the ML
[17:47] <phillw> we do have seeders :)
[17:47] <tsimonq2> this is why I asked if you proofreaded it ;)
[17:48] <tsimonq2> *proofread
[17:48] <phillw> I was setting up a VM :P
[17:48] <tsimonq2> but I leave in 10 mins and I want to finish this up
[17:48] <tsimonq2> if you don't mind
[17:49] <phillw> I await Rafael to return :)
[17:49] <tsimonq2> for the blog post?
[17:55] <tsimonq2> alright I'm off, phillw, I've tasked wxl to handle it if you don't mind
[17:55] <tsimonq2> o/
[17:55] <phillw> kk have fun!
[18:11] <redwolf> o/
[18:19] <redwolf> phillw, back!
[18:22] <phillw> hiyas
[18:22] <phillw> neck better?
[18:23] <redwolf> not really! _D
[18:23] <redwolf> :D
[18:23] <redwolf> but I have another session, and she promised to make me a relaxing one, with some fabric bags with warm stuff inside
[18:24] <phillw> redwolf: can you add on the PPC and also the notes from the ML written by tsimonq2 and approved by gilir this morning. (Just edit the link to cdimage to be to GetLubuntu).
[18:24] <wxl> i'm going up on the blog with this stuff
[18:24] <redwolf> I know!
[18:25] <redwolf> I'm going to add the missing links
[18:25] <phillw> hiyas wxl :)
[18:26] <redwolf> wxl, *\o/*
[18:27] <wxl> hey all
[18:28] <redwolf> so, adding PPC desktop and PPC alternate
[18:29] <phillw> redwolf: yep... just waiting for the Pi image to arrive :)
[18:29] <phillw> there is an RC for both MATE and lubuntu on my mirror.
[18:30] <redwolf> okies
[18:30] <wxl> http://lubuntu.me/xenial-released/
[18:30] <wxl> can you guys move that around to all the places?
[18:31] <redwolf> done!
[18:31] <redwolf> wxl, did you put a reading-stop and tags/categories?
[18:32] <wxl> not a reading stop
[18:32] <wxl> i can do that
[18:32] <wxl> done
[18:32] <redwolf> good boy!
[18:32] <phillw> wxl: can you edit the link direct to cdimage server to point to getlubuntu . it extols the use of torrent and has the mirror :)
[18:32] <redwolf> otherwise one post fills the entire blog. thank you
[18:32] <redwolf> links checked
[18:34] <redwolf> who takes care of social?
[18:34] <redwolf> phillw ?
[18:34] <wxl> link me, phillw
[18:35] <phillw> I'll redo the ones marked via me on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/Developers/PrePostReleaseTODO#Use_press_announcement
[18:35] <phillw> redwolf: can you do the twitter etc ones.
[18:35] <phillw> wxl: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/GetLubuntu
[18:35] <wxl> redwolf: s/etc/reddit/
[18:35] <wxl> XD
[18:35] <phillw> pintrest
[18:35] <wxl> oh yeah
[18:36] <wxl> snapchat? XD
[18:36] <phillw> they're listed so we don't forget :)
[18:36] <redwolf> yup
[18:36] <redwolf> I'll do Twitter and Reddit
[18:36] <wxl> k download link fixed
[18:36] <phillw> may need to add in snapchat :)
[18:36] <wxl> redwolf: what about snapchat? :)
[18:36] <wxl> hahahah
[18:36] <wxl> oh and tinder
[18:36] <wxl> XD
[18:37] <wxl> "hot lightweight operating system looking for hardcore user"
[18:37] <phillw> he he
[18:38] <redwolf> wxl, -_____-
[18:38] <phillw> and grinder :P
[18:38] <wxl> O_O
[18:38] <redwolf> yes, Grindr, and KiK, and StumbleUpon, and Tuenti, and...
[18:38] <wxl> oh yeah kik!
[18:39] <redwolf> for Grindr...
[18:39] <wxl> is digg still a thing?
[18:39] <wxl> hahahahahhaha
[18:39] <redwolf> yes, I think so :)
[18:39] <wxl> nevermind
[18:39] <wxl> i really don't have any interest in doing any more of that crap
[18:39] <wxl> hm
[18:40] <wxl> maybe i could hack public apis to publish all at once
[18:40] <wxl> or better yet.. WORDPRESS PLUGINS
[18:42] <wxl> thanks for all the help btw both of you
[18:44] <redwolf> reddit and twitty done!
[18:44] <redwolf> wxl, there's something for that, an app or something to post everywhere
[18:44] <wxl> redwolf: don't forget pinterest. you know, for the ladies. :)
[18:44] <redwolf> BUT as I prefer to edit manually text and links (Twitty needs short urls, and Reddit hates them), not useful
[18:44] <redwolf> .___.
[18:45] <redwolf> designers!
[18:45]  * wxl rolls eyes
[18:45] <wxl> and soccer moms
[18:45] <redwolf> btw, we have a new community: http://lubuntuofficial.deviantart.com
[18:45] <wxl> oooh
[18:45] <redwolf> in time it'll replace the (too much gay) Pinterest
[18:45] <redwolf> and of course, Xenial was added
[18:46] <wxl> nice nice
[18:46] <redwolf> omg, we're done! :D
[18:46] <wxl> yay good job everyone
[18:47] <phillw> the 5 allocated to me have been re-edited. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/Developers/PrePostReleaseTODO#Use_press_announcement
[18:47] <redwolf> thank you, I know, thank you
[18:47] <redwolf> .__.
[18:48] <redwolf> oh, wxl, and look at the audience (for now): http://pasteboard.co/mgeriHC.png
[18:48] <phillw> wxl: only thing not done is 'turning off' testing page, as we're back to testing 14.04.5 for when ever it is due.. can you edit https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/Testing accordingly. Thanks.
[18:48] <wxl> whoa
[18:49] <redwolf> BUT go to http://lubuntu.me/blog/ and you'll see today's random visits... 5,952!!!! and it's beginning!
[18:49] <wxl> i'll probably go to lunch first but then i'll do it phillw
[18:49] <wxl> i have it in my browser to remind me
[18:49] <phillw> wxl: okies, please mark as don on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/Developers/PrePostReleaseTODO when  done :)
[18:50] <phillw> *done
[18:50] <redwolf> I feel very proud of you all... but one o__o
[18:50] <redwolf> kidding, nice dev job
[18:51] <wxl> also in the browser phillw :)
[18:51] <wxl> thanks everyone......
[18:52] <phillw> redwolf: kris is on #phillw if you want to say hI... He's home after his operation earlier today.
[18:52] <redwolf> oh, yes! :D
[18:54] <wxl> wait
[18:54] <redwolf> O.o
[18:54] <redwolf> WUT?!
[18:54] <wxl> nevermind
[18:54] <redwolf> do tell!
[19:00] <redwolf> walter...
[19:00] <wxl> WHAT
[19:01] <redwolf> tell me
[19:01] <redwolf> don't be shy
[19:01] <wxl> dude
[19:01] <redwolf> o__o
[19:01] <wxl> it's not what you're hoping it is :)
[19:02] <redwolf> aw
[19:02] <redwolf> how do you know what's on my mind? .__.
[19:03] <redwolf> phillw, don't worry, I'm chatting with kris :)
[19:04] <phillw> okies
[19:09] <redwolf> dinner time!
[19:09] <redwolf> bbl
[20:02] <tsimonq2> thank you wxl :)
[20:03]  * tsimonq2 glanced during Science class
[20:26] <tsimonq2> phillw: gosh darnit, you pasted the email text into the Facebook post, that's where the Facebook text goes :|
[20:27] <phillw> no need to follow links.. they can read it directly there :D
[20:28] <tsimonq2> but the blog post is different then the email
[20:28] <tsimonq2> if anything you should have put the blog post on Facebook
[20:28] <tsimonq2> :P
[20:29] <phillw> the links are hard to do from lubuntu.me to FB for the downloads... So, sent people to GetLubuntu :)
[20:32] <tsimonq2> phillw: but I made modifications special for the email...for the email! /o\ :P
[20:33] <phillw> ah well, all done now :)
[20:33] <phillw> plenty of likes :)
[20:33] <tsimonq2> but the end...and the beginning... /o\


[10:02] <sborovkov> Hi, what interface do I need to allow this? "Could not create AF_NETLINK socket (Permission denied)"
[11:17] <mup> PR snapd#6324 opened: Fixing socket permissions on 4.15 kernels  <Created by kubiko> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/6324>
[11:28] <mup> PR snapd#6325 opened: Allowing avahi-observer/control slots from app snap also on classic <Created by kubiko> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/6325>
[15:10] <mup> PR snapd#6326 opened: interface: raw-usb: Adding ttyACM[0-9]* <Created by kubiko> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/6326>
[15:59] <mup> PR snapd#6327 opened: Allowing sockets under /run/user/0/$SNAP_NAME <Created by kubiko> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/6327>
[16:18] <om26er> ogra, around ?
[16:18] <om26er> Seems UbuntuCore18 on RPi3 won't boot: https://forum.snapcraft.io/t/ubuntu-core-18-on-raspberry-pi-3-doesnt-bootstrap/9304
[17:53] <om26er> Whats up with build.snapcraft.io -- seems armhf builders are busy. And I thought everyone was on holidays ;-)
[17:53] <popey> Yeah, it is a little busy
[17:53] <popey> Looks like a test-rebuild is eating them all
[17:53] <popey> https://launchpad.net/builders
[17:57] <om26er> hmm, can we build armhf snaps on arm64 systems popey ?
[17:57] <popey> you can build them on a pi
[17:57] <om26er> ,
[17:57] <om26er> that would be slow
[17:57] <om26er> lxd on the pi and build snap inside a container ?
[17:57] <popey> more reliable than cross building in my experience :)
[17:58] <om26er> scaleway offers arm64, need to find a PaaS that offers armhf
[17:59] <popey> I think there's a few


[12:14] <m-b-o> does anybody know, how to detect if a Sheet is displayed or not?
[12:20] <WebbyIT> dpm, sorry, I don't understand your comment here. mzanetti and I are speaking about a button to choose with wich account do the login in reminder app, why it be should part of Online Accounts? After a login with an account, user maybe wants to switch  account, and IMO is non-sense to go to online account to change actual user....
[12:20] <WebbyIT> https://code.launchpad.net/~rpadovani/reminders-app/multiple-accounts/+merge/205066/comments/480650
[12:22] <WebbyIT> and dpm is not online :/ lol, I need more coffee on morning
[14:17] <nik90> WebbyIT: don't you use the autofill nick feature?
[15:13] <WebbyIT> nik90, normally yes, but "dpm" is so short that I write it
[21:21] <mivoligo> hi
[21:21] <mivoligo> nik90: around?
[21:21] <nik90> mivoligo: hey
[21:22] <mivoligo> nik90: hey! just submitted my branch for a review
[21:22] <nik90> mivoligo: oh. will take a look
[21:24] <mivoligo> nik90: but I noticed changed in the trunk since the moment I started working on that and I didn't pull from it, so might be some problems
[21:24] <nik90> mivoligo: were you able to also fix the issue where the hours wouldn't increment when minutes goes past 59?
[21:24] <nik90> mivoligo: that you mentioned in your g+ post?
[21:24] <mivoligo> nik90: yes
[21:26] <nik90> mivoligo: the only commit in trunk (that might affect your MP) is the one of mine where I fixed the overflowing alarm label text in the alarm page.
[21:26] <mivoligo> nik90: but I had to remove previous code for that and write a new based on it
[21:26] <nik90> mivoligo: dont' worry if there are any code conflicts. I will help you fix them
[21:26] <nik90> mivoligo: I will review the code over the weekend and leave my comments in the MP. does that sound good
[21:27] <mivoligo> nik90: also I fixed #1274077
[21:27] <mivoligo> bug #1274077
[21:27] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 1274077 in Ubuntu Clock App "Add alarm page should switch between AM/PM hour mode automatically when going past 12 hour mark" [Low,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1274077
[21:27] <mivoligo> nik90: yes, sure, take your time :)
[21:28] <nik90> mivoligo: yup I saw that in the MP. Impressive that you fixed 4 bug in the clock app 1.6 milestone!
[21:28] <nik90> mivoligo: thnx
[21:28] <mivoligo> nik90: I'll put a new video on G+ to get some +1 :P
[21:29] <nik90> mivoligo: hehe :P
[21:29] <mivoligo> nik90: BTW I've noticed a bug in the alarms list
[21:31] <nik90> mivoligo: what is the bug?
[21:31] <mivoligo> nik90: the “next alarm” is actually not really the next but just first in the list
[21:32] <nik90> mivoligo: actually I learnt from the SDK developer that the Alarms API automatically tries to return results in the order of execution. So the first alarm on the list will be the next closest active alarm
[21:32] <mivoligo> nik90: ah, OK then
[21:33] <nik90> mivoligo: the "next alarm" function was written a long time ago. i need to revisit that and improve it.
[21:33] <nik90> mivoligo: I am just a little busy these past few days writing autopilot tests for the alarms feature to get these bug fixes all landed on the phone for the upcoming MWC at Barcelona
[21:34] <nik90> mivoligo: so your bug fixes are coming at the best possible time :-)
[21:34] <mivoligo> :D
[21:34] <mivoligo> nik90: are you going to Barcelona?
[21:35] <nik90> mivoligo: no no ...I am not going... I am busy with University :)
[21:35] <nik90> mivoligo: but dpm and other canonical employees will be there showcasing the apps
[21:36] <mivoligo> nik90: who's dpm?
[21:36] <nik90> mivoligo: david planella from the canonical community team
[21:37]  * mivoligo need to be more often on IRC
[21:37] <nik90> lol
[21:38] <nik90> I think I have lingered on IRC too long that I know their nick names more than their real names :P
[21:39] <mivoligo> nik90: so tell me who is responsible for SDK on 12.04 :P
[21:40] <nik90> mivoligo: I think that would be bzoltan
[21:40] <mivoligo> :)
[21:40] <nik90> mivoligo: haven't your SDK 12.04 issues been fixed yet?
[21:41] <mivoligo> nik90: no, still the old stuff
[21:41] <nik90> mivoligo: damn! I will talk to bzoltan and popey on monday to find out about this.
[21:41] <mivoligo> nik90: thanks
[21:43] <mivoligo> nik90: for the reference: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-sdk-team/+archive/ppa/+build/5564812
[21:44] <mivoligo> “Missing build dependencies: libthumbnailer-dev”
[21:44] <nik90> yup was on that page just now
[21:44] <nik90> seems like they only build properly on 13.10 and 14.04
[21:45] <mivoligo> nik90: I even installed 14.04 on my old laptop but it's to sloooow to develop on it, useful just for testing
[21:46] <nik90> mivoligo: you mean on a VM? or an actual install?
[21:46] <mivoligo> nik90: actual install
[21:46] <nik90> mivoligo: why is it slow?
[21:47] <mivoligo> nik90: don't know, it was faster on 12.04
[21:47] <nik90> mivoligo: are you running unity 2D on 12.04?
[21:47] <mivoligo> nik90: no
[21:48] <nik90> mivoligo: hmm okay..that's really weird..because my experience on 13.10 has been very postive where unity has improved a lot since 12.04. I would expect it to improve further on 14.04.
[21:49] <mivoligo> nik90: actually my daughter has 13.10 and it feels faster than 14.04
[21:49] <nik90> ah
[21:54] <mivoligo> nik90: oh, one more thing I've changed is the default time shown when creating new alarm as I mentioned on G+. I hope it'd be OK with the design team?
[21:58] <nik90> mivoligo: I will need to check with Lucas, Andrea and Alan about this.
[21:58] <mivoligo> nik90: ok
[21:59] <mivoligo> nik90: I will not bother you any more today/tonight ;) Have a great one!
[22:00] <nik90> mivoligo: you too .. gud nite
[22:01] <[Ethos]> Good Day!
[22:03] <mhall119> nik90: everyone in canonical tends to know our co-workers more by their IRC nick than real name
[22:03] <mhall119> all week at our sprint,nobody called popey "Alan"
[22:05] <nik90> mhall119: yup it seems a little strange calling them by their nick..but I guess you get so used to it
[22:05] <popey> fun fact.. before I was known as popey, before I even had the popey.com domain, some people used to call me "popey dot com"
[22:05] <popey> which is why I registered the domain
[22:06] <nik90> mhall119: I think it also depends if your nick is pronounceable...because I guess no one called you mhall
[22:06] <nik90> popey: nice trivia
[22:07] <mhall119> nik90: only some people, but yea, if your nick can be said as a name it works better
[22:07] <popey> nik90: when you were mentioned at ths sprint it was maybe 33% nik90, 33% Nekhelesh, and 33% "the clock guy"
[22:07] <nik90> popey: lol
[22:08]  * nik90 is amused at "the clock guy"
[22:08] <WebbyIT> lol :D
[22:09] <mhall119> "nik90" and "nekhelesh" are equally hard to pronounce for enclish speakers
[22:09] <popey> well, it's a common thing really, Agostino Russo was always known as "the wubi guy"
[22:09] <popey> pffft
[22:09] <popey> https://secure.flickr.com/photos/26705667@N06/2525601685/
[22:09] <popey> see
[22:10] <WebbyIT> not bad, there may be the worst nicknames
[22:10] <nik90> mhall119: yup "Nekhelesh" is indeed hard..which is why I always ask people here (in the netherlands) to call me nik instead...makes their life so much easier
[22:10] <popey> that gallery is good
[22:11] <popey> haha, found one of me https://secure.flickr.com/photos/26705667@N06/2527001867/in/photostream/
[22:11] <nik90> ah, the good old physical UDS events..
[22:11] <nik90> lol look at popey's expression...I think he is whistling :P
[22:11] <WebbyIT> did you have some sticker, popey? https://secure.flickr.com/photos/26705667@N06/2502102042/in/photostream/
[22:11] <nik90> Check this one of jono https://secure.flickr.com/photos/26705667@N06/2501257671/in/photostream/
[22:12] <popey> https://secure.flickr.com/photos/26705667@N06/2502102042/ me being evil at jonos laptop
[22:12] <popey> heh, not my laptop
[22:12] <WebbyIT> ah, ok, so Jono <3 stickers :P
[22:12] <popey> https://secure.flickr.com/photos/26705667@N06/2502161684/
[22:13] <popey> that was us trying to fix jonos laptop
[22:13] <popey> he had the audacity to press the "Dell Smart Media" button which overwrote grub, instantly, with no confirmation
[22:13] <popey> it was like an instant "Screw my laptop" button
[22:14] <WebbyIT> I always dreamed of a self-destruct button
[22:14] <WebbyIT> Can be useful
[22:14] <popey> useful to prevent jono giving a presentation about vegetables
[22:14] <nik90> popey: ooh I have that destruct button on my older dell inspiron 1525 laptop :P
[22:14] <popey> ☻
[22:15] <popey> right, time for bed, jet lag is with me.. nn
[22:15] <nik90> gud nite popey
[22:16] <WebbyIT> o/
[22:19] <mivoligo> clock video online: https://plus.google.com/101489925843882654647/posts/Dy7e3PYytUU
[22:50] <[Ethos]> how can I create an app on gnome
[22:50] <[Ethos]> what language do I need to learn?


[01:41] <CodeMouse92__> oooookay, so apparently etherpad-lite is NOT friends with mod_evasive or fail2ban:apache-auth
[01:42] <CodeMouse92__> It just banned my entire staff from the prod server.
[01:42] <CodeMouse92__> I had to fix that, so.............
[01:42] <sarnold> ouch ;)
[01:42] <CodeMouse92__> According to access logs, etherpad-lite has an average of, I dunno, around 12 pings a minute?
[01:42] <CodeMouse92__> Way above evasive's threshold of 5
[01:43] <CodeMouse92__> So...I need some advice.
[01:44] <CodeMouse92__> Can I (a) adjust fail2ban:apache-auth and mod_evasive to NOT freak out with etherpad-lite being used?
[01:44] <CodeMouse92__> or (b) turn OFF those mods for only the etherpad subdomain (not ideal, of course)
[01:44] <CodeMouse92__> or, (c) are they just practically incompatible and I need to kick etherpad to the curve if I want to keep a secure server in any capacity?
[01:45] <CodeMouse92__> I mean, is 15 a REASONABLE threshold for mod_evasive?
[01:46] <sarnold> CodeMouse92__: this page looks like you can also whitelist ips in mod_evasive https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/how-to-protect-against-dos-and-ddos-with-mod_evasive-for-apache-on-centos-7
[01:50] <CodeMouse92__> sarnold: Well, the trouble is, my staff is all remote.
[01:50] <CodeMouse92__> Changing IPs.
[01:51] <CodeMouse92__> sarnold: I think I'll raise the threshold on mod_evasive to 15 hits per page
[01:51] <CodeMouse92__> per minute
[01:53] <CodeMouse92__> And, actually, since nothing's authenticating on etherpad-lite, I think fail2ban:apache-auth may have been reacting to the error logs filled up by mod evasive
[01:54] <sarnold> CodeMouse92__: what happens with etherpad when people type? does it send every keystroke in a new packet? or does it wait a full five seconds before sending the new text?
[01:54] <CodeMouse92__> sarnold: I'm not honestly sure.
[01:54] <CodeMouse92__> It seems to send in packets, based on how it updates
[01:54] <CodeMouse92__> large packets, that is
[01:55] <sarnold> I'd aim for something more like 120 requests per minute for etherpad things; most devs can touch-type quickly
[01:55] <CodeMouse92__> sarnold: It's an open thing. Would you mind spam-typing on mine, just to see if you get locked out?
[01:55] <CodeMouse92__> I've whitelisted local network (me)
[01:56] <CodeMouse92__> sarnold: https://pad.mousepawmedia.net/p/test2
[02:01] <CodeMouse92__> sarnold: Must be working now. I've got someone trying it, no bans
[02:02] <Latrina> good evening everyone. not really a server related issue but I dont know where else to ask
[02:02] <Latrina> can a ecryptfs folder / volume be mounted without passphrase but with the only signature?
[02:03] <Latrina> the situation is the following, I have home fully encrypted, while the rest of the rootfs is not encrypted. passphrase key file is store in home, while signature of this mount is stored in /root/. (not crypted)
[02:04] <Latrina> the crypted folder in this case is found in /usr/local/
[02:04] <Latrina> thanks
[02:10] <CodeMouse92__> Latrina: If you *don't* get an answer here, you can try ##linux
[02:13] <Latrina> CodeMouse92__, thank you man
[02:14] <sarnold> "signature"?
[02:23] <Latrina> the passphrase signature?
[02:41] <fishcooker> i try to install "$ sudo apt search linux-generic-lts-trusty", but i couldn't find the kernel <IP_ADDRESS>.127 listed on the menu.lst http://vpaste.net/kKRu9
[05:06] <cpaelzer> good morning
[06:28] <lordievader> Good morning
[09:31] <cpaelzer> nacc: I added usd build-source to the workflow on the wiki
[09:31] <cpaelzer> nacc: working fine after the fix you added yesterday
[10:50] <zioproto> jamespage: any news about the refresh for nova 14.0.5 ?
[14:53] <compdoc> I have a server with a bad mdadm drive that rebooted this morning. now its resyncing, but I assume the bad drive is syncing to the good drive, and copying any damaged data to the good drive.
[14:53] <compdoc> bad, meaning it has reallocated sectors
[15:06] <tsglove> I was reading about apr-proxy, yet not sure if there is a newer solution?
[15:21] <nacc> cpaelzer: great, thanks!
[15:58] <nacc> rbasak: re: LP: #1686859, my reading is that should be ok to sponsor?
[15:59] <nacc> rbasak: as delta for us? since our default is still mysql 5.7?
[16:00] <rbasak> nacc: I believe so, though I think Lars might be working on an improvement. Would you want to wait for that? If so I can confirm with him in the bug.
[16:03] <nacc> rbasak: that's fine, i'm just trying to push through the php7.0 removal and that's the last build-dep to get rid of :)
[16:03] <jge> hey all, got a problem here. I ran some install script that installed MariaDB but it failed, now every time I install anything I get the MariaDB configuration script pop up asking me to set a root db password
[16:04] <jge> if I do a apt-get purge mariadb-server it looks like I don't have it installed
[16:05] <jge> but maria's package config keeps popping up when I install or remove anything on the box
[16:06] <rbasak> jge: there are other related packages, like mariadb-common and mariadb-server-10.0 (or 10.1), etc.
[16:07] <rbasak> jge: try "dpkg -l|grep mariadb"
[16:07] <rbasak> Also "dpkg -l|grep mysql"
[16:07] <rbasak> Note that some libraries are needed by the base system, so you can't remove everything. dpkg will stop you with an explanation if you try.
[16:08] <jge> ok, yeah I see them now.. let me try to remove one by one
[16:08] <rbasak> I'd do them all at once to avoid dependency issues between them.
[16:08] <jge> ok let me try
[16:08] <teward> rbasak: and anyone who cares, thanks to Debian and some googling I've got patches from upstream sources to patch the fail to builds i'm seeing for nginx 1.12.0, an upload is 'soon' if it builds alright in the PPA.
[16:09] <rbasak> teward: thanks!
[16:12] <jge> rbasak: that did it, thank you :)
[16:33] <teward> yay it built, uploading shortly lol
[16:33] <teward> (it also works from what I can tell in this container...)
[16:44] <teward> rbasak: nginx 1.12.0-0ubuntu1 uploaded to artful proposed :)
[16:56] <rbasak> teward: \o/ thank you!
[20:04] <sgrover> odd mount issue.  Have a tmpfs mounted directory that has run out of space.  Need to remount with new space.  But this is on a busy website and there is a good chance of a file/directory being created in the time between the umount command and the mount -a command.
[20:05] <sgrover> The mount was NOT in /etc/fstab (I've slapped the fingers already), but is now, so the remount should be done via a mount -a.  Would a "mount -a -o remount" do the trick?  We really need to make sure the fstab entry is working properly as well...
[20:06] <ThiagoCMC> Guys, how to enable libosinfo in Ocata (Ubuntu 16.04)? Under [libvirt] at the docs, there are no such "hardware_config=libosinfo" option... I have installed libosinfo-bin, but I'm still seeing: "Cannot load Libosinfo: (No module named Libosinfo)" at nova-compute.log. Any idea?
[20:18] <jge> hmm strange, I'm trying to use SNI to host two apache SSL sites (same IP/Port)  but when I split my VirtualHost in two files I get some ProtocolERROR and when I put them on a single file it works.. anyone know why this is?
[20:47] <grendal_prime> has anyone here ever added spice drivers to existing windes kvm guest?
[20:48] <grendal_prime> sorry ... has anyone here ever added spice drivers to existing windows 7  kvm guest?
[20:54] <ikonia> whats the real question
[20:54] <ikonia> and please don't cross-post
[23:36] <bindi> sup
[23:36] <bindi> https://hastebin.com/owujucazoq.erl what do these mean in dmesg?
[23:41] <sarnold> bindi: probably something like grub-install probing disks to find out what filesystem types need to be supported..


[07:25] <bkerensa> !help
[07:25] <orebuntu> Commands: 8ball about admin asshat bc blame cowsay date dc distro echo fail figlet fire fob fortune google googlefight googlepage group hacker hangman help insult limerick lunch me msg notice ping praise proverb quote remindme s score seen slogan tardhat topic uptime urban weather whip wikipath wikipedia wiktionary win woot wtf yoda zima
[07:25] <lubotu1`> Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience
[07:25] <bkerensa> !admin
[07:25] <orebuntu> Try !help admin
[07:25] <bkerensa> !help admin
[07:25] <orebuntu> Various administrative commands.
[07:25] <orebuntu> !admin reload | quit | join #chan | part #chan
[22:12] <nathwill> man, cannot believe alpha2 is tomorrow


[20:39] <|PSU|> hi guys, running a new setup after a hard drive failure...Mythbuntu 16.06 with 0.28 Mythtv.  having an issue where it works fine for a few hours, then something gets hosed with the backend.  lots of searching leads me to this post which is identical to my problem but unforutnately did not have any suggestions - https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2327571&p=13502967#post13502967
[20:40] <|PSU|> Mythweb works when I first start the box, but after several hours the response returns an error without information on some of the pages. I still get a response but it takes a minute or two for it to reply and then at the top of the page I usually see this error:
[20:40] <|PSU|> User Notice at /usr/share/mythtv/bindings/php/MythBackend.php, line 110:
[20:40] <|PSU|> !!NoTrans: Unexpected response to MYTH_PROTO_VERSION '88': !!
[20:40] <|PSU|> if I manually restart the backend, everything returns to normal


[17:55] <bladernr> could someone help me with a recipe issue? https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/GVqCWHDCNV/
[17:56] <teward> your version strings are identical, you need to increment your package version string somewhere.
[17:56] <cjwatson> No they aren't
[17:56] <teward> oop i lied i'm fast reading cjwatson
[17:57] <cjwatson> But you're using git hashes in a way that assumes they're comparable as components of version strings
[17:57] <cjwatson> They are not and you should not do that
[17:57] <bladernr> I added +{revtime} specifically for that
[17:57] <cjwatson> If you absolutely must have the commit ID in the version string, put revtime *before* it, not after
[17:58] <bladernr> cjwatson, AHHHHHHH... the light just clicked on.
[17:58] <bladernr> OK
[17:58] <cjwatson> Putting it after is ineffectual
[17:58] <bladernr> THAT is what I didn't grok
[17:58] <teward> cjwatson: as i was rereading what you said was what I was going to say next heh
[17:58] <teward> (I need to STOP fast reading lol)
[17:58] <cjwatson> (You may need some one-time twiddling to get across the boundary to a fixed version format though)
[18:00] <bladernr> ack... I read this: https://help.launchpad.net/Packaging/SourceBuilds/Recipes#Packaging_information and at the end, I just presumed I could put revtime at the end of my git recipe like the bzr recipe just above the last paragraph...
[18:00] <bladernr> thanks a lot, I'll adjust it and try again.


[00:29] <oh_noes> If i suspect I have a corrupted local apt-mirror
[00:29] <oh_noes> do I have to delete it and download he 26GB+ again?
[00:29] <jetsaredim> JanC: any particular reason for this on a non-"/" drive?
[00:29] <oh_noes> is there a command I can give to apt-mirror to do a crc/md5 against all files?
[00:32] <jmarsden> oh_noes: Not to apt-mirror, but you can use find and xargs and md5sum to construct one yourself... but I'm headed out the door... back soon I hope...
[00:32] <JanC> jetsaredim: I don't remember all the details (I read about it somewhere), but e.g. file system maintenance tasks (like fsck) might need that space
[00:32] <jetsaredim> fair enough
[00:33] <jetsaredim> seems a waste
[00:33] <JanC> jetsaredim: and it helps prevent fragmentation too
[00:33] <jetsaredim> 20G is a decent chunk
[00:33] <oh_noes> jmarsden: yep .. already in the middle of a find | xargs md5 .. but doing 50G is slow :)
[00:33] <oh_noes> I thought I'd ask while I wait.
[00:33] <JanC> that's why I said to make it smaller  ツ
[00:35] <jetsaredim> JanC: you don't know of any "rules of thumb" for that do you?
[00:35] <JanC> not really
[00:35] <jetsaredim> fair enough
[01:36] <techsupport> hi
[01:36] <orudie> how to change the ip address in apache2 server ?
[01:45] <orudie>  how do i change bound ip for apache2 in ubuntu 8.10 server
[01:51] <orudie> by default, where does apache2 bind ip ?
[01:55] <twb> orudie: probably somewhere in /etc/apache/
[02:12] <tsrk> What's the "virtual machine host" option when installing ubuntu?
[02:28] <twb> tsrk: ISTR kvm is the officially sanctioned way
[02:29] <tsrk> ISTR?
[02:30] <toxygen> hello, i would like to ask how is it with support of sparc64 in 8.04, should i upgrade from 6.06?
[02:31] <toxygen> there is not much info on the web
[03:16] <steelcityjim> is it possible to dial in remotely via ssh and view video files on your server
[03:17] <Kamping_Kaiser> view video files located on the server? yes, theres a couple of ways you could try
[03:24] <steelcityjim> is there a windows application available
[03:24] <Kamping_Kaiser> no idea.
[03:24] <steelcityjim> well im looking to be able to play movies from the server
[03:25] <Kamping_Kaiser> we'll i'd mount it into my filesystem and play it like that ... but my OS supports sshfs ...
[03:26] <steelcityjim> im able to log in remotely using filezilla and download files
[03:26] <Yang1> has anyone heard of 2x application server?
[03:27] <steelcityjim> but instead of downloading them i would prefer to view them from the server
[03:27] <Yang1>  i am having some problems with parameters that im trying to pass and i was wondering if anyone would know
[03:27] <steelcityjim> what does the Fs mean
[03:27] <steelcityjim> file share?
[04:59] <ScottK> vorian: http://xana.scru.org/xana2/ranticore/oldbdbsqueeze/ <-- Debian libdb maintainer.  Not the list and maybe there's hope.
[05:16] <Myst> ok im having some problems with my IPtables... right now my server does not have internet access when i apply the rules... i am wondering if anyone knows what i need to set to ensure my server has internet
[05:17] <Nytrix> anyone, how do i save a specific program that is already installed so i wont have to config everything all over again for another pc?
[05:17] <Cyntek> Myst, hi!
[05:18] <Myst> hey
[05:21] <Cyntek> Im running ubu-server 8.10 and i have installed an additional NTFS HD as slave for extra-storage for my home-server, for File sharing accessibility. How can i get ubu-server to recognize the drive?
[05:24] <Nytrix> why have it as ntfs?
[05:25] <Cyntek> well, my family uses windows xp pro and they're going to be storing and file sharing.
[05:26] <hads> If you're sharing it over the network it doesn't need/want to be NTFS
[05:26] <Cyntek> im creating a Fiel Server for mainly Home Network for Media such as music and files.
[05:26] <Cyntek> Really.
[05:27] <Cyntek> i didn't know, just figured it would be so, since they are all running xp pro.
[05:27] <Cyntek> so xp can recognize the network hard drive.
[05:28] <Cyntek> So it does not have to an ntfs drive.
[05:28] <Cyntek> what would be the best option ?
[05:31] <Cyntek> format drive to ext3
[05:32] <Nytrix> try http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/mounting-windows-partition-onto-ubuntu-linux/
[05:32] <Nytrix> hopefully that helps
[05:32] <Nytrix> shows u how to do it through the terminal
[05:33] <Cyntek> Alright, but is best to keep it as ntfs file system or convert it to ext3
[05:35] <Nytrix> ext3
[05:36] <Nytrix> then use samba to share between the windows machines
[05:37] <Nytrix> or
[05:37] <Nytrix> is everyone using the same machine?
[05:37] <Nytrix> no right
[05:37] <Nytrix> ?
[05:37] <Cyntek> no.
[05:37] <Nytrix> the workstations are xp right?
[05:38] <Cyntek> each family members have there own computers.
[05:38] <Nytrix> ok i guess it's best to format it to ext3 then use samba to share files
[05:38] <Nytrix> !samba
[05:40] <Cyntek> alright, but is it best to keep it as ntfs or another file system, for this type of Server usage?
[05:43] <Nytrix> well it is a linux server so use ext3
[05:44] <Nytrix> since u cant seem to mount it, try to make it ext3
[05:45] <twb> Don't forget to mount NTFS filesystems with -t ntfs3g, *not* -t ntfs.
[05:48] <Cyntek> Nytrix, it is mounted.
[05:48] <Cyntek> im able to view it.
[05:48] <Cyntek> as ntfs
[05:48] <Nytrix> great
[05:48] <Nytrix> :)
[05:48] <Cyntek> thanx
[05:49] <Cyntek> when i run command: ls /dev/sdb5
[05:49] <Nytrix> you will still need samba i think to be able to share over a network
[05:49] <Cyntek> it shows up " yellow "
[05:49] <Cyntek> Yes, i can do that.
[05:51] <Cyntek> Nytrix, Thanks for the help
[05:53] <Nytrix> i tried
[05:53] <Nytrix> np
[05:55] <twb> Cyntek: device files are coloured yellow by default, to distinguish them from files.
[05:55] <twb> Cyntek: to look at the contents of the filesystem on /dev/sdb5, you need to call ls on the mountpoint (e.g. /media/data).
[05:56] <Cyntek> hmm.
[06:03] <Cyntek> Does this look right: http://rafb.net/p/sVC0Mq22.html
[08:03] <llragsll> I have an ubuntu gateway hare through which all traffic goes. I need a way to monitor the data transferred through this machine. any suggestions?
[08:08] <cemc> llragsll: ALL data?
[08:10] <llragsll> yes...
[08:10] <llragsll> I have been using munin to graph..ok..but it shows only the rate..
[08:10] <llragsll> I want the total data going in and out...
[08:11] <llragsll> any packages to do this?
[08:11] <cemc> ah, you mean a byte count ?
[08:11] <llragsll> yes
[08:12] <llragsll> a byte count...say the amount of data transfered every day..with a global counter showing the entire amount of data transfered.
[08:13] <llragsll> is there any packed doing this...I tht it would be something simple...l want the data tht is seen next to the n/w connection. data in/out
[08:14] <Titan8990> phpsysinfo will do it I think
[08:14] <Titan8990> let me check
[08:14] <cemc> I found one called darkstat
[08:14] <cemc> http://dmr.ath.cx/net/darkstat/
[08:15] <Titan8990> llragsll, nope only total transfer from time up
[08:15] <llragsll> hmm..ya..looks similar to munin
[08:16] <llragsll> Titan8990, at least till time up is better...
[08:16] <llragsll> but something persistent will be nice...there should be something definitely
[08:17] <Titan8990> well, if you already have apache + php you can check out phpsysinfo
[08:17] <Titan8990> if not, I would say its not worth setting up for that
[08:18] <llragsll> ya I got lighttpd/php...it's setup for munin.
[08:20] <llragsll> will bwm help
[08:20] <llragsll> i am going thru it...
[08:22] <cemc> if I recall correctly, bwm is some tiny monitoring software, like dstat, or iptraf
[08:22] <llragsll> hey great...bwm-ng is the package...."It shows total of in and out as well as total of all Interfaces. Several different output methods are supported (curses, plain, csv and html). "
[08:23] <llragsll> cemc,i guess iptraf will do to
[08:24] <llragsll> thxl\ guys
[08:53] <kraut> moin
[10:19] <_ruben> which part is supposed to take care of starting md raid volumes? i created 2 raid volumes using mdadm, rebooted the box, dont show up
[10:21] <cemc> _ruben: do you have a /etc/mdadm.conf file, or anything in it ?
[10:22] <_ruben> nope
[10:23] <_ruben> ah /etc/mdadm/mdadm.conf .. had missed it at first
[10:24] <cemc> is there anything in it ?
[10:26] <_ruben> http://paste.ubuntu.com/122751/
[10:28] <cemc> and when you boot, there's nothing in /proc/mdstat?
[10:30] <_ruben> nope .. doesnt even exist as no raid modules get loaded .. tried adding ARRAY lines to that config (based on a mdadm scan), doesnt help
[10:45] <_ruben> hmm .. mdadm itself doesnt seem to autostart either .. strange
[10:47] <cemc> what release are you trying this on ?
[10:49] <_ruben> 8.10
[10:49] <_ruben> the "funny" part is, i have 2 nearly identical boxes .. one works as it should, the other doesnt
[10:54] <_ruben> hmm .. one difference, one's upgraded from 2.6.27-9-server kernel to -11 .. the working one was installed as -11 directly ..
[10:54]  * _ruben senses a reinstall coming up
[10:55] <cemc> ;)
[10:56] <cemc> do you have autoraid on the partitions ?
[10:56] <cemc> I mean the partition types
[10:57] <_ruben> yes
[11:05] <domas> holy crap, ubuntu just freaked me out
[11:05] <domas> I was typing vgcr[tab] and it completed to 'vgcreate', I pressed [tab] once more, and it filled in existing volume group name, I pressed [tab] and it filled in device in it
[11:05] <domas> this looked scary
[11:07] <cemc> _ruben: the only thing I found is in /etc/udev/rules.d/85-mdadm.rules for starting up RAID
[11:08] <cemc> domas: ubuntu iz smart :)
[11:10] <domas> cemc: well, it was stupid
[11:10] <_ruben> bashcompletion is kinda handy every now and then
[11:10] <domas> cemc: I was creating VG, so reusing old name didn't work :)
[11:10] <cemc> :))
[11:10] <domas> and... it picked a device that was in VG already, while there was another unassigned one
[11:11] <domas> but still
[11:11] <_ruben> cemc: adding "raid10" to /etc/initramfs/modules did the trick
[11:15] <cemc>  /etc/initramfs-tools/modules ?
[11:15] <_ruben> which i had tried before, but the /boot partition seems to not be properly mounted always
[11:15] <_ruben> uh, yeah
[11:15] <_ruben> memory doesnt have autocomplete :P
[11:15] <cemc> ;)
[11:18] <cemc> you added raid10 so it loads the module when booting up
[11:21] <_ruben> which isnt needed on the other node, there the mdadm hooks handled the inclusion of the raid10 module properly
[11:22] <cemc> hm
[11:36] <cemc> _ruben: maybe you should try adding the RAID device to /etc/fstab, remove the modules from the initramfs-tools/modules, and then update-initramfs, see what happens
[11:37] <_ruben> cemc: it isnt listed on /etc/fstab on either boxes .. as the md's are exported over iscsi
[11:37] <cemc> i see
[12:12] <incorrect> I am setting up a local mirror,  i noticed that if i mirror from a 64bit server i only get 64bit debs,   I would like to get both 32 and 64
[12:14] <soren> incorrect: How are you doing mirroring?
[12:15] <incorrect> apt-mirror
[12:16] <soren> Dunno then.
[12:20] <oCean_> incorrect: think you have to add arch in sources.list
[12:20] <incorrect> apt-mirror doesn't seem to use sources.list ?
[12:20] <oCean_> incorrect: sorry. mirror.list
[12:21] <oCean_> incorrect: hang on
[12:21] <incorrect> set arch ?
[12:21] <oCean_> like so I guess: http://www.howtoforge.com/local_debian_ubuntu_mirror#comment-3875
[12:22] <incorrect> thanks!!
[13:23] <subchee> hello all
[13:23] <subchee> I'm trying to install a webradio on my Ubuntu Server 8.10
[13:24] <soren> What's a "webradio"?
[13:24] <subchee> web streaming radio
[13:24] <subchee> I'd like to use Icecast2
[13:24] <subchee> my problem is that with Ices2 it can only play .ogg files
[13:25] <subchee> can somebody recommend something else instead of Ices2 to play .mp3 music?
[13:25] <domas> you know mp3 patent situation? :)
[13:25] <mac9416_2> Hello, gents. I want to set up a DNS server for my local network, but it occurred to me: why do DNs cost money if just anyone can set them up?
[13:26] <subchee> yes domas, I know :)
[13:27] <domas> subchee: so look for packages outside core repo
[13:27] <oCean_> mac9416_2: there's the cost of hardware, hosting and maintenance of course
[13:27] <domas> though according to package description, 'icecast2' package should stream mp3 properly :)
[13:27] <cemc> mac9416_2: maybe because it costs money to admin the server, to upgrade it now and then, to run in 24/7, the bandwidth, etc ;)
[13:27] <subchee> I've googled all the day to find a package instead of Ices2... but I couldn't :(
[13:28] <subchee> I was thinking about to use Shoutcast (sc_server + sc_trans) but it doesn't want to start... (glibc6 is installed)
[13:29] <mac9416_2> Hmmm. Yeah, now it doesn't seem so easy. OK, is there a really good instruction guide out ther efor setting up DNS? Any forum HowTo I find is very confusing.
[13:31] <mac9416_2> I"ve looked at books I like, but I really need a quick/free howto
[13:31] <oCean_> mac9416_2: seen this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=236093. Basic setup. Hardly confusing
[13:31] <domas> subchee: you can install compat libc
[13:31] <domas> subchee: then shoutcast will work :)
[13:34] <subchee> domas: you mean "libghc6-regex-compat-prof"?
[13:35] <domas> nope
[13:36] <subchee> sorry, "libc6" and "glibc-2.7-1" are installed... so what should I install? :)
[13:38] <domas> which is failed dependancy?
[13:40] <mac9416_2> Thanks oCean_
[13:41] <subchee> there is no failed dependancy... if I want to start sc_serv there is an error msg: ./sc_serv: There is no such file or directory.
[13:42] <subchee> the .log file and the .conf file is in the same directory and the user has the right to write into the .log file
[13:43] <domas> anyway, there's nothing wrong with vorbis!! :)
[13:43] <subchee> yeah, I know
[13:43] <subchee> but all my music is mp3
[13:43] <subchee> I don't want to spend days with converting them :)
[13:44] <cemc> subchee: how do you start sc_serv exactly?
[13:44] <subchee> just typing this: ./sc_serv
[13:44] <domas> subchee: you can always recompile icecast to support mp3 :)
[13:45] <subchee> domas: really? I didn't know about that... good news :)
[13:45] <cemc> subchee: what is 'ls -la sc_serv' saying ?
[13:45] <subchee> -rwxr-xr-x 1 14775 1687<PHONE_NUMBER>-02-28 21:17 sc_serv
[13:46] <subchee> sorry, I didn't use pastebin :(
[13:46] <cemc> np, one line won't kill anybody :)
[13:46] <cemc> did you tried with ./sc_serv file.conf ?
[13:46] <cemc> err... did you try*
[13:46] <subchee> yes, and the result is the same
[13:48] <domas> subchee: strange though, icecast2 package _should_ be able to play mp3
[14:02] <subchee> thank you everybody, bye-bye (apt-get install libc6-i386 solved the shoutcast problem)
[14:02] <cemc> subchee: have fun
[14:03] <cemc> turns out he was on 64 bit ;)
[14:57] <Cyntek> hello. i running ubuntu-server 8.10 and i have installed an additional ide hard drive as slave. I'm bit confused about how to add files or folders into that particular hard drive. How would i know if im moving files onto that hard drive and not the ubuntu-server hard drive?
[14:58] <kinnaz> Cyntek, you mount the driver to specific location after making filesystem do it if it doesnot have one
[14:58] <kinnaz> then you if you move files to that mountpoint
[14:58] <kinnaz> they will be on that new drive
[14:59] <Cyntek> kinnaz, when i run ls -l command it says this: lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 10 2009-02-25 04:32 SeaGateBaracuda -> ../../sdb5
[15:01] <Cyntek> if im understanding you correctly, that says its pointing to that hard drive and will store my files to that specific hard drive and not the ubuntu home?
[15:03] <Cyntek> How can i view the files on that hard drive for verification ?
[15:07] <dmacnutt> where did you mount it?
[15:07] <dmacnutt> check there
[15:08] <kinnaz> Cyntek, mount /dev/sdb5 /data
[15:08] <kinnaz> cp /home/myuser/somedatadir/* /data
[15:08] <kinnaz> ah mkdir /data
[15:08] <kinnaz> at first
[15:10] <Cyntek> all i did was installed it internally thats it.
[15:10] <Cyntek> i figured ubuntu-server would recognize it and auto mount it.
[15:12] <Cyntek> http://rafb.net/p/yk3MFx29.html
[15:16] <_ruben> ubuntu-server doesnt do auto-mounting of new harddisks
[15:17] <Cyntek> oh.
[15:17] <Cyntek> so i have define it in MTAB
[15:17] <_ruben> no .. fstab .. but you'll need to partition and format it first before you can actually use it (as in: store data on it)
[15:20] <orudie-work> hi, i need help changing hostname , name of the computer
[15:21] <_ruben> only a handful of files in /etc/ hold the system's hostname .. edit those, reboot, done
[15:24] <orudie-work> reboot what ?
[15:24] <Cyntek> this hard drive will be for file sharing for window machines. what would be the best file system to use for Media files,
[15:25] <orudie-work> i set hostname in /etc/hostname and ip hostname in /etc/hosts
[15:25] <orudie-work> not sure what else
[15:30] <ogra> reboot
[16:04] <Cyntek> should there be swap space for an second hard drive?
[16:05] <sadiq_> how can I enable tab completion in a server ...I connect with ssh and I lack the autocomplete
[16:06] <cemc> Cyntek: you mean if you need to create a swap partition on the second drive? you don't
[16:06] <Cyntek> k, thanks
[16:06] <Cyntek> so i just need to create the file system and that's it.right.
[16:07] <cemc> sadiq_: it should work. what do you try to autocomplete with tab? what shell do you use when logged in with ssh ?
[16:07] <sadiq_> cemc I donno :(
[16:07] <cemc> Cyntek: you can create one big partition if you like, and create the file system on it
[16:08] <sadiq_> 8.04 ...should be bash right?
[16:08] <Cyntek> it's a 300 GB hd.
[16:08] <cemc> sadiq_: if you didn't change anything, then it should be bash, yea
[16:09] <cemc> and TAB doesn't do anything at all?
[16:09] <Cyntek> i want this hd to be accessible via windows machine's.
[16:09] <sadiq_> it uses spaces
[16:09] <sadiq_> like in normal text editors
[16:10] <cemc> sadiq_: try this: echo $SHELL
[16:11] <cemc> what does it say ?
[16:11] <sadiq_> nothing...it prints a newline
[16:11] <sadiq_> $ echo $shell
[16:11] <sadiq_> $
[16:11] <cemc> $SHELL, it's case sensitive
[16:12] <sadiq_> oh...sry
[16:12] <sadiq_> /bin/sh
[16:12] <Cyntek> thanks for the help guys
[16:13] <cemc> so you're using sh, and not bash. sh doesn't know autocomplete
[16:13] <sadiq_> ok...so how do I change to bash??
[16:13] <cemc> Cyntek: you can create one big partition, format it as ext3, and use samba
[16:13] <Cyntek> cemc, if i format to ext3...windows will read it?
[16:13] <Cyntek> and write to it.
[16:13] <cemc> nope
[16:14] <Cyntek> thats what i need.
[16:14] <cemc> then why put it in an ubuntu server? :)
[16:14] <Cyntek> this server is for home file server for sharing and accessing.
[16:15] <kinnaz> Cyntek, over samba windows client can read/write do it
[16:15] <cemc> you can format it as ext3, and then use samba to share it to other windows machines on the network
[16:15] <Cyntek> thank you .
[16:16] <cemc> sadiq_: try usermod -s /bin/bash <username>
[16:16] <sadiq_> usermod: unable to lock password file
[16:16] <sadiq_> sudo??
[16:16] <cemc> yep, with sudo, sorry
[16:16] <sadiq_> oh...the user is not in sudoers group
[16:16] <sadiq_> su ??
[16:17] <cemc> you need the root password for that i guess
[16:17] <sadiq_> I have that :)
[16:17] <cemc> then su -, and do the usermod as root
[16:19] <sadiq_> that line worked as root...
[16:19] <sadiq_> but still no autocompletion
[16:19] <cemc> now log in on another console,
[16:19] <cemc> and try it
[16:20] <sadiq_> oh..ok...that works :)
[16:20] <sadiq_> ty
[16:20] <sadiq_> any side effects from using bash instead of sh??
[16:21] <cemc> slightly more memory usage I guess
[16:22] <cemc> but apart from that I don't think so
[16:33] <ScottK> If you're logged in as a user that doesn't have sudo rights, su to the user that does and then sudo.
[16:54] <sadiq_> is root user available(as in I can log as root) in the server install???
[16:55] <ScottK> Not by default.  You can enable it, but you generally don't need to.
[16:56] <sadiq_> ok
[16:56] <Cyntek> i tried moving the files to the new hard drive in it's new directory i created but i got a error i think: andrew@Home:~$ cp /home/movies/* /dev/sdb1 /movies/* cp: omitting directory `/home/movies/action' cp: omitting directory `/home/movies/anime' cp: omitting directory `/home/movies/comedy' cp: omitting directory `/home/movies/drama' cp: omitting directory `/home/movies/horror' cp: omitting directory `/home/movies/Scifi' cp: can
[16:56] <Cyntek> not stat `/movies/lost+found/sdb1': Permission denied
[16:57] <Cyntek> what's the right way of doing it?
[16:59] <smoser> Cyntek, probably you wanted something like: cp -a /home/movies/* /movies
[16:59] <Cyntek> k, ill try that.
[17:00] <Cyntek> nope, that did not work.
[17:00] <Cyntek> im trying to move it from /dev/sda /home/movies to /dev/sdb1/movies.
[17:01] <kinnaz> Cyntek, use mc for file managment
[17:02] <Cyntek> what is mc?
[17:03] <Cyntek> Midnight Commander
[17:03] <kinnaz> yes
[17:04] <cemc> mortal combat
[17:04] <Cyntek> mortal combat....whoot
[17:05] <Cyntek> sudo apt-get install midnight commander
[17:05] <smoser> Cyntek, wherever you have /dev/sda mounted and /dev/sdb1 mounted is what you're interested in copying from and to
[17:05] <smoser> maybe i missed something, but you almost certainly dont want to actually copy /dev/sdaX or /dev/sdbX
[17:09] <Cyntek> http://rafb.net/p/1bNOzF81.html
[17:13] <Cyntek> woot, i finally did it.
[17:13] <Cyntek> man that took a while.
[17:14] <Cyntek> banging my head against wall, trying to figure what i was doing wrong.
[17:14] <Cyntek> forgot to set permission on the new Directory " /movies"
[17:14] <Cyntek> kept getting permission denied.
[17:15] <Cyntek> listen well learned.
[17:15] <Cyntek> lol
[19:56] <zim> hi all what is the best tool to encrypt a folder from command line (using 8.04 server)
[19:57] <cemc> archive-like encrypt or you want it to be usable ?
[19:58] <zim> can you tell me about both pro/cons if you dont mind
[19:58] <jmarsden> zim: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FolderEncryption
[20:00] <zim> ty
[20:01] <jmarsden> No problem.
[20:45] <drbobb> hello
[20:46] <LHC> hey
[20:46] <drbobb> i was kinda surprised today to find that there exist 2.8GHz Xeon CPU's that don't support 64bit mode
[20:46] <LHC> did u weep
[20:47] <drbobb> not quite, but i needed to burn a 32bit ubuntu server cd
[20:48] <drbobb> btw which flag or whatever in /proc/cpuinfo tells you whether 64bit is supported or not?
[20:48] <LHC> haha the thing now with cds, I burn so many for no reason, cause I have a stack of 100 and there are still about 70 on it
[20:48] <LHC> not sure I come here to learn xD
[20:49] <drbobb> well i have several broked cd/dvd burners
[20:49] <drbobb> broken, even
[20:50] <drbobb> they tend to die right after the warranty expires
[20:50] <drbobb> especially those for laptops
[20:52] <LHC> thats a bitch xD
[20:52] <drbobb> oh and i had to abandon that old xeon box for the time being, i installed ubuntu but it turned out unbootable
[20:53] <drbobb> it seems grub has a problem with hdd's hung on addon controller cards
[20:55] <drbobb> btw has anyone tried grub2? is it ready to become the default any time soon?
[20:55] <Titan8990> drbobb, I have had no problems
[20:55] <Titan8990> drbobb, with my 3com RAID card
[20:55] <Titan8990> drbobb, are you sure your card is supported by linux kernel?
[20:55] <drbobb> Titan8990: i have no problems most of the time as well
[20:56] <drbobb> Titan8990: pretty much sure, i found a redhat9 running on that machine when i was given it
[20:56] <Titan8990> drbobb, what I did have a problem with, is drives not plugged into the discrete card would change drive letters, in the middle of doing something and it would cause massive i/o errors and crash the server
[20:56] <drbobb> drive letters?
[20:57] <Titan8990> drbobb, device names
[20:57] <Titan8990> drbobb, /dev/sda1 would become /dev/sdb1 in the middle of copying something....
[20:58] <Titan8990> drbobb, it may have been a problem with the board actually, because sometimes the BIOS didn't even read the extra hdds
[20:58] <drbobb> the installer saw mine as /dev/sda and had no problem setting it up with lvm, partitions & filesystems
[20:58] <drbobb> and it's the single hdd on the system
[20:59] <drbobb> now boot hangs on grub loading, or whatever the message is
[21:00] <drbobb> before any menu appears that is
[21:26] <redbluefish> I have 2 servers running 8.10, the hardware is different.  Server 1 crashes with moderate access to a cifs mounted file system, while server 2 doesn't have the problem.  I'm new to linux administration and I'm not sure how to troubleshot this situation.  Any ideas for a noob?
[21:26] <cemc> redbluefish: crashes like how? kernel panic, freeze, some error msg ?
[21:37] <JanC> drbobb: I _think_ you could look for the 'LM' flag to check if a system is 64-bits, but I'm not sure...
[21:46] <drbobb> JanC: thx that might be it
[21:47] <drbobb> (btw there really ought to be a `man cpuinfo')
[21:48] <Deeps> write it!
[21:48] <drbobb> Deeps: i have no clue
[21:49] <Deeps> :(
[21:49] <Deeps> get clue and then writ it!
[21:50] <Deeps> write*
[21:50] <Deeps> (i would, but it always seemed fairly self-explanitory to me, the bits that mattered to me at least)
[22:25] <mark> you know how much fun doing partitioning in the ubuntu installer is on a box with 48 disks, over a 9600bps serial connection?
[22:25] <mark> :)
[23:20] <Myst> Hey Everyone, i have just configured my server the way i want it and would like to back it up so that i do not have to redo any of the configurations if i have to upgrade the machine etc... is there a way of doing that without ghosting the hard drive?
[23:31] <agentk> Myst: If you want to track changes to /etc too then etckeeper is probabbly your answer. IMHO it is better only to backup changes to /etc, which etckeeper can track for you
[23:31] <goofey> Myst: that's a big question - what do you want to backup - files or the whole filesystem?
[23:32] <agentk> Myst: I havnt tried etckeeper yet though
[23:32] <agentk> Myst: I use backuppc for my server backups
[23:32] <tangentcollision> I need help getting my shoutcast server running, whenever I start it, it gives me this http://pastebin.ca/1347290 crap and I can't keep the process running
[23:33] <goofey> Myst: rsnapshot is also usefull for file backup
[23:33] <goofey> Myst: dd is my favorite for filesystem (partition) backup
[23:34] <Myst> basically i would like to be able to use the configuration file to configure the exact same server on different hardware should this hardware die...
[23:35] <Myst> i dont think the /etc copier program would work because i have a samba server running with shares elsewhere...
[23:36] <goofey> Myst: I think rsnapshot is what you want
[23:36] <goofey> Myst: you can specify what files to copy and at what intervals
[23:36] <goofey> Myst: and it keeps the directory structure intact on the files you do copy
[23:37] <Myst> ok so if i setup another server i can use the rsnapshot to bring it to the current config of the other server?
[23:37] <goofey> Myst: and it uses rsync and hard links on preserve space
[23:37] <goofey> well, rsnapshot maeks the backup
[23:37] <goofey> you restore the backup by hand i think
[23:37] <goofey> but that's not hard using rysnc
[23:38] <goofey> in this case, restoring to a differnet computer is all
[23:38] <goofey> rather than the original
[23:38] <Myst> sounds good ill take a look at it...
[23:39] <goofey> Myst: hope it helps
[23:39] <Myst> goofey, thx... if you have any websites that are good tutorials thatd help
[23:41] <goofey> Myst: this is what I used: http://www.rsnapshot.org/howto/
[23:42] <mgolisch> are there any crash dump features to be included in the comming release?


[20:48] <robert_ancell> kenvandine, does the simple-scan snap need all the interfaces connected?
[20:55] <kenvandine> robert_ancell: I think so
[20:55] <kenvandine> Hopefully what's in edge works
[21:10] <robert_ancell> kenvandine, tested and emailed results to you


[01:42] <tsimonq2> Sorry for bothering, but is there any sort of status update on the datacenter outage?
[01:42] <wgrant> tsimonq2: Several hours at least.
[01:43] <wgrant> There was a fire.
[01:43] <tsimonq2> wgrant: Ouch.
[01:43] <wgrant> I'd expect it to be back this weekend.
[01:44] <tsimonq2> Thanks.
[01:44] <tsimonq2> (I wonder why this is the only datacenter with all these machines.)
[01:45] <wgrant> We only have a limited amount of !x86 hardware and it's all in one DC.
[01:45] <tsimonq2> Gotcha.
[01:45] <tsimonq2> Thanks wgrant.
[05:08] <Peng_> I'm totally just curious, but, a fire? Jeez. Is anyone planning to write up what happened?
[05:29] <wgrant> Peng_: Not sure of full details, but a fire elsewhere in the building means we have rather less electricity than is useful.
[05:33] <Peng_> Ah. :X
[17:38] <wgrant> The build farm's back to normal, though the ARM queue will take another couple of hours to clear.


[14:13] <statik> gooooooooooooooooooooooood morning hackers
[14:28] <facundobatista> statik, hello! how are you?
[14:36] <statik> facundobatista: i'm great, just catching up with the backlog and trying to get video working on my laptop again after the last kernel update before diving into some couchdb packaging and desktopcouch work
[14:37] <facundobatista> statik, I have video, but after yesterday updates, no sound at all :(
[14:38] <statik> i think i forgot to install one of the right meta-packages for restricted modules when i switched to the -pae kernels
[14:38] <statik> haven't tried sound yet :)
[15:39] <J_Litewski> I just had a weird problem with Ubuntu One, for some reason it connected then disconnected and sent a DBus message that disappeared a second after it appeared
[15:39] <J_Litewski> I haven't been able to recreate it
[16:38] <dobey> statik, facundobatista: you guys are lucky. i had to go buy a new hard drive. whee
[16:38] <dobey> anywya, tani jam shkon
[16:38] <facundobatista> dobey, why??
[18:00] <dobey> facundobatista: i got back from .ar and the ATA SMART on my linux drive was reporting some bad sectors
[18:00] <dobey> i guess it should be expected, as that particular drive is about 5-6 years old
[18:02] <statik> hurrah, packaging the first snapshot of the couchdb 0.10 branch now
[18:03] <dobey> cool
[18:58] <dobey> i really really really wish launchpad would stop sending me mail for bugs that are general ubuntu issues, but not ubuntuone bugs
[18:58] <dobey> perhaps by way of a "Does not affect this project" link
[19:03]  * statik subscribes all the ubuntuone hackers to more bugmail
[19:04]  * dobey sets up a procmail rule to forward all bugmail to statik
[19:04] <statik> i have been getting intermittent 502 bad gateway errors from launchpad all morning
[19:05] <statik> it's super annoying for manually merging branches, but makes it absolutely impossible to get through a full tarmac run to process a desktopcouch merge
[19:05] <dobey> from the web, or just from the API?
[19:05] <statik> both
[19:05] <statik> the web I can turn off redirection to edge
[19:05] <statik> but the api is edge only i think
[19:05] <statik> and if one of the app servers is down, every second or third request through the load balancer hits the dead server
[19:05] <dobey> and also *thwap* for putting that in the commit message. just do bzr commit --author="Whoever it was <whoever@mail>" --message="Their commit message from LP"
[19:05] <statik> ooh, i didn't know about --author
[19:06] <dobey> now you know
[19:06] <dobey> and knowing is half the battle
[19:06] <dobey> (more like three quarters really)
[19:07] <statik> exactly
[19:08]  * dobey waits for apt to reinstall all these packages :(
[19:21] <dobey> i really wish command line apt integrated with the GUI when available, by using zenity or something
[19:29] <dobey> hrmm
[19:30]  * dobey wonders what he installed on his previous hard disk to make dvd playback work correctly
[20:15] <dobey> oh joy
[20:16]  * dobey discovers self-contradiction in OAuth 1.0[a]
[20:16] <dobey> (unrelated to the reason for the 1.0a version)
[20:20] <PaulATL> Hello - I have two machines (i386 desktop and amd64 laptop) where the ubuntuone client does not seem to connect. Problems started with recent update manager update. How do I troubleshoot this?
[20:21] <statik> hey PaulATL, how can you tell that it is not connecting?
[20:21] <PaulATL> The icon in the task bar does not rotate, has a red x, eventually disappears... also...
[20:22] <PaulATL> When I open my Ubuntuone folder in Nautilus, it gives me a connect button, but does not do anything
[20:23] <statik> the icon is supposed to have stopped rotating and should eventually disappear, but the connect button and the red x sound like a problem
[20:24] <statik> the best thing to do is report a bug, and attach the logs to the bug as outlined in the bug filing page https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntuone-client/+filebug
[20:24] <PaulATL> yep... what used to happen before the update is that the icon would stop rotating, but would remain present, and would rotate if files changed in my ubuntuone foldere
[20:24] <statik> that sounds right
[20:24] <statik> we've changed it now so the icon hides itself
[20:24] <statik> but, sounds like you might have a separate problem
[20:25] <J_Litewski> oh, well, it works now :/
[20:25] <PaulATL> thanks, statik
[20:25] <statik> np. i've heard a few reports about connection problems, hopefully we get that nailed tomorrow and a fix out on the regular tuesday release
[20:25] <J_Litewski> what ever happened to the connection animation? I kinda liked that
[20:26] <statik> we got rid of it, there were a lot of complaints
[20:26] <J_Litewski> really?
[20:27] <statik> there is a design spec up here finally: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuOne/KarmicClient
[20:27] <statik> eventually (karmic+1) i think we'll be getting rid of the icon alltogether
[20:28] <J_Litewski> one last question, after Ubuntu One hits 1.0, will there be an xubuntu and kubuntu verson?
[20:28] <J_Litewski> or will you have to just use the Ubuntu One with Gnome compadibilty?
[20:29] <statik> i'd sure like there to be, but we're only working on getting the Ubuntu version to be reasonably bug free currently
[20:29] <dobey> 1.0 is not going to have other UIs
[20:29] <statik> we've designed things to allow Xubuntu, Kubuntu, Windows, OS X, iPhone, and other clients
[20:29] <dobey> nobody else is working on them afaik, and feature freeze is this week
[20:30] <J_Litewski> I'm just wondering, because I brought up to my Library that they should install it on their Kubuntu machines
[20:30] <dobey> also, don't trust that wiki page :)
[21:24] <dobey> i hate debugging dbus issues :(


[12:38] <scooper> Hello - just wondering if anyone can advise how to rename a project.  Delete and re-add?
[01:30] <mrigns> I made some suggestions for the German translation of Gutsy, but only four translations are listed on my Profile. Is this the maximum number, or did the others get deleted?
[03:52] <mpt> mrigns, if you're talking about your karma records, I think karma is updated about once a day
[03:53] <mpt> so a translation wouldn't show up immediately
[03:53] <mrigns> mpt, nope that's not what I meant, I just realised the translation history will only show 4 translations
[03:53] <mrigns> they are all listed at the karmapage though
[03:54] <mrigns> I wasn't sure if I saved them correctly
[03:54] <mpt> mrigns, that doesn't seem right. What is the URL of the page you're talking about?
[03:54] <mrigns> https://translations.launchpad.net/~mrigns
[03:54] <mrigns> oh, 5
[03:59] <mpt> mrigns, that's listing applications and packages, not individual suggestions
[03:59] <mrigns> mpt, oh, :D
[03:59] <mrigns> thank you
[03:59] <mpt> It gives only the most recent suggestion from each application/package
[03:59] <mpt> that doesn't mean it's forgotten all the others :-)
[04:01] <mpt> I'll report a bug about that, it's a bit confusing.
[04:01] <mrigns> yeah
[04:01] <mrigns> thank you for the clarification
[04:14] <ttmrichter> Ah.  That was my mistake.  OK, is there a launchpad administrator alive and kicking in here?
[04:20] <ubotu> New bug: #132111 in rosetta "Person Translations page overemphasizes latest translations" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/132111
[04:22] <Fujitsu> ttmrichter: What do you want? You may be better off filing a support request.
[04:22] <ttmrichter> I'd like to know how to delete my launchpad account, actually.
[04:23] <ttmrichter> Stop wasting Canonical's disk space.
[04:33] <ttmrichter> Thanks, guys.
[04:41] <mpt> That won't make any difference to the amount of disk space...
[04:46] <sydhart> is now a good time/place for questions about using launchpad with two new projects and their packages?
[05:23] <mpt> sydhart, not many of the Launchpad team are awake now
[05:23] <mpt> You could try in ~12 hours, or you could e-mail the launchpad-users mailing list
[06:21] <ubotu> New bug: #132124 in launchpad "radio buttons on "is your bug already reported" don't work quite right" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/132124
[06:31] <mpt> Goooooooooooood afternoon Launchpadders!
[06:33] <Hobbsee> heya mpt!
[06:33] <mpt> hiya
[06:35] <poolie> hello Hobbsee, mpt
[06:36] <mpt> Australasians represent
[06:36] <Hobbsee> hi poolie
[06:38] <poolie> oi oi oi
[06:49] <lifeless> poolie: oy oy oy vey
[09:25] <carlos> morning
[09:50] <mpt_> hi carlos
[09:51] <mpt_> mdz, do you have 30 seconds to test something for me on Launchpad?
[09:51] <mpt_> In particular I'd like to know if, for you, there is a "Define Launchpad usage" link on https://launchpad.net/ubuntu
[09:52] <mpt_> (in the Actions box)
[10:19] <mdz> mpt_: ok
[10:19] <mdz> mpt_: yes, there is
[10:20] <mpt_> mdz, thanks
[11:55] <ubotu> New bug: #132154 in launchpad "Launchpad doesn't display in the omniweb browser" [Undecided,Incomplete]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/132154
[01:06] <ubotu:#launchpad> New bug: #132162 in launchpad "Error message when not logged into help wiki is unhelpful" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/132162
[01:11] <ubotu:#launchpad> New bug: #132165 in launchpad "Preview of Help wiki pages is obscured by background image" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/132165
[01:33] <matkor:#launchpad> Hi ! Is it possible to get mail if _any_ bugs from given project is changed/ added / commented ? TIA
[01:33] <matkor:#launchpad> I am registered, and I would be noticed if https://bugs.launchpad.net/bzr-gtk/+bugs changes ...
[01:37] <BjornT:#launchpad> matkor: the only way atm is to become a bug contact for the project. for bzr-gtk, this means that you should ask to be added to this team: https://launchpad.net/~bzr-gtk/
[01:38] <matkor:#launchpad> BjornT: Thanka a lot !
[01:56] <Fujitsu:#launchpad> Hi cprov.
[01:57] <cprov:#launchpad> Fujitsu: hi, good morning.
[02:15] <harcesz:#launchpad> hi guy's - i'm doing a translation of miro at the moment and just had an idea
[02:16] <harcesz:#launchpad> I think it would be extreamly usefull to give the translators a place for a note, under every line(string)
[02:17] <harcesz:#launchpad> most of the wouldent be used, but sometimes it would be great to have a way to inform other translators why the choice for a particular form was made
[02:18] <harcesz:#launchpad> it could looklike that - the extra form is displd. only in the 1 string view, so id doesent mess up the multiple strings view, but in the multiple view, theres a small icon informing that there is a note attached to this translation
[02:19] <harcesz:#launchpad> would be cool cuz I just changed about 10 only male forms that appeard in the translation into forms that address both sexes + some other similiar changes that other ppl didnt think off, and I would like them to know why I edited their translations
[02:21] <harcesz:#launchpad> as well a shoutcast/wiki in the generall/trank view for each language might be usefull so I can say "hey guys, I'm going thrue the whole thing to find plural forms, don't translate them at the moment" - cuz I dont c any other way to inform them bout that fast...
[02:22] <harcesz:#launchpad> a shoutcast could be placed on the left bar - where the statistics, translation file details an other thingis are
[02:25] <ubotu:#launchpad> New bug: #132180 in soyuz "Check and document archive indexes generated by Soyuz with apt_pkg" [Medium,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/132180
[03:03] <harcesz:#launchpad> theres a blueprint similiar to mine, so I just added my idea in the wideboard, here: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/rosetta/+spec/suggestion-approve-rejection-explanation
[03:03] <harcesz:#launchpad> would be great if somebody can take a look and proceed with it
[06:20] <ubotu:#launchpad> New bug: #132234 in soyuz "packages in 'multiverse' can have binaries in 'main' " [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/132234
[07:29] <jkakar:#launchpad> mrevell: Heya!
[07:30] <jkakar:#launchpad> mrevell: I've just been going through https://help.launchpad.net/PPAQuickStart
[07:31] <jkakar:#launchpad> mrevell: Couple of suggestions to make it a bit more user-friendly.  Including a "Preparing your system" section with something like "Run 'apt-get install build-essential dput'" would be nice.
[07:31] <jkakar:#launchpad> mrevell: Also, suggesting that 'debuild -S' is one way to generate suitable output for use with dput would be helpful.
[07:31] <jkakar:#launchpad> mrevell: In general though, the instructions worked!  Thanks. :
[07:31] <jkakar:#launchpad> )
[08:38] <mrevell:#launchpad> jkakar: Sorry, I've been having dinner. Thanks for the suggestions, that's really helpful! I'm glad the instruction worked for you.
[08:38] <jkakar:#launchpad> mrevell: Yeah, they were nice and simple for the most part. :)
[09:55] <ubotu:#launchpad> New bug: #132263 in launchpad "fmt:email-to-html may wrongly identify quoted passages as Python" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/132263
[10:58] <mdke:#launchpad> I'm still getting bugmail for bugs which were filed a long time ago when I or someone else changes their status (I received the bugmail when it was originally filed too!)
[10:58] <mdke:#launchpad> is that known? it's been like that for a long time
[11:14] <kiko:#launchpad> mdke, I don't quite understand
[11:18] <mdke:#launchpad> kiko: ok, I'll try and explain better
[11:18] <mdke:#launchpad> kiko: so someone files a bug, I get bugmail for it
[11:19] <kiko:#launchpad> so far so good.
[11:19] <mdke:#launchpad> kiko: then, a few months later, someone changes the status of the bug, and I get 2 emails, one as if it were a new bug (but detailing a status change at the bottom), and another just detailing the status change
[11:19] <kiko:#launchpad> that's not right
[11:20] <kiko:#launchpad> are you being subscribed?
[11:20] <mdke:#launchpad> kiko: it says I am, yeah. But I was already subscribed
[11:20] <mdke:#launchpad> (through being a bug contact)
[11:20] <kiko:#launchpad> but are you being /directly/ subscribed?
[11:20] <mdke:#launchpad> no
[11:20] <kiko:#launchpad> because that mail is sent when you are directly subscribed.
[11:21] <kiko:#launchpad> it's unusual then
[11:21] <mdke:#launchpad> what about being assigned?
[11:25] <mdke:#launchpad> maybe it happens only when I get the original email from being bug contact, then get subsribed or assigned to the bug
[11:25] <kiko:#launchpad> I think that's the case
[11:25] <kiko:#launchpad> we have no way of knowing you are subscribed via ubuntu-bugs, remember. :)
[11:25] <mdke:#launchpad> kiko: well, I'm a member of the team that is bug contact for the product
[11:26] <mdke:#launchpad> is there no way of telling that LP has already sent me the email?
[11:26] <kiko:#launchpad> it shouldn't send you email twice, that's for sure
[11:26] <kiko:#launchpad> if you are indeed a member of the team
[11:26] <mdke:#launchpad> I definitely am
[11:27] <mdke:#launchpad> am example is bug 124094
[11:27] <ubotu:#launchpad> Launchpad bug 124094 in ubuntu-doc "Incorrect path to Lock Desktop." [Low,Fix committed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/124094 - Assigned to Matthew East (mdke)
[11:29] <kiko:#launchpad> mdke, sounds like a bug. to help, file a bug and attach the two full-messages
[11:29] <mdke:#launchpad> kiko: ok, I just wanted to make sure it wasn't expected behaviour
[11:29] <mdke:#launchpad> I'll try and make a test case bug to reproduce it
[11:29] <mdke:#launchpad> thx
[11:30] <kiko:#launchpad> mdke, I think you shouldn't
[11:30] <kiko:#launchpad> just send the emails you got
[11:30] <kiko:#launchpad> the test case bug will just litter the system
[11:30] <mdke:#launchpad> kiko: alright.
[11:31] <mdke:#launchpad> danilos: did you have any luck with our translation-credits issue?
[11:50] <ubotu:#launchpad> New bug: #132300 in launchpad "duplicate bugmail when a bug contact gets personally subscribed/assigned to a bug" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/132300
[12:00] <sydhart:#launchpad> is now a good time/place for questions about using launchpad with two new projects and their packages?
[12:06] <kiko:#launchpad> sydhart, sure it is. what's up!
[12:11] <cr3:#launchpad> I created a project in launchpad and now I would like to commit the code to the trunk using bzr, so how can I create the trunk (which seems to be created already) and start committing code?
[12:13] <mdke:#launchpad> cr3: https://help.launchpad.net/FeatureHighlights/BazaarHosting is an excellent guide
[12:17] <cr3:#launchpad> mdke: I'm not sure how I get a branch on bazaar.launchpad.net :(
[12:19] <mdke:#launchpad> cr3: if you follow those pages, it tells you how to do exactly that, but you do have to read them