[11:58] <alimj> q^5: Only www.newssite.somedomain goes through DNS
[11:58] <alimj> q^5: /somepath/niceinfo.html goes through HTTPS header
[11:59] <alimj> q^5: and even DNS request goes only once (They it will be cached)
[11:59] <ni291187> can I view drives on the local home group easily?
[11:59] <dr_willis> ni291187:  you can assess windows shares.
[11:59] <PatrickDickey> kmicu: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1527171/ is an example of my conky configuration. It shows disk usage along with top processes.
[11:59] <kmicu> Then some system-monitor-indicator for disk usage doesn't exist :/
[11:59] <ni291187> it's restarting ATM
[12:00] <dr_willis> kmicu:  more likely theres dozens of them.. it depends on the details. thers loads of unofficial/not in the repo indicator-applets
[12:00] <qqqqq> alimj, so lets says I am in China, Burma, etc. and want to access a wordpress blog. Each blog is basically a separate "project", they wouldn't know what blog I access if wordpress uses https?
[12:00] <kmicu> I can't find any panel indicator for disk usage :)
[12:00] <PatrickDickey> qqqqq: when you access the site, your computer asks the dns server for the ip address of the domain (www.newsite.com). After that, everything is IP based.
[12:00] <dr_willis> many docks have the disk ussage monitors also.
[12:00] <alimj> q^5: The answer is yes. The would not know
[12:00] <Elvinz> qqqqq, I guess they will, as the adress is in the clear
[12:00] <ni291187> I'm in grub, loading Ubuntu
[12:00] <dr_willis> kmicu:  you mean for the gnome-classic type panels? or the unity panel?
[12:01] <kmicu> unity panel
[12:01] <Elvinz> qqqqq, you might be better of encrypting everything via a proxy
[12:01] <dr_willis> kmicu:  search for 'indicator applets' that may have what you want. theres dozens of them mentioned at askubuntu.com thats not in the repos
[12:01] <alimj> q^5: However, if you want to have maximum anonymity, use onion routing/ TOR proxy
[12:01] <ni291187> ok, I'm logged in
[12:01] <PatrickDickey> qqqqq: I second alimj's idea. Use The Onion Router, if you're that worried.
[12:01] <kmicu> I'll try cron job with lib-notify, but it will be ugly solution :)
[12:02] <kmicu> dr_willis: no indicator applets for disk usage :)
[12:03] <dr_willis> kmicu:  I would think  you should look harder. i seem to recall some. but im on a console only system. so cant look
[12:03] <PatrickDickey> ni291187: WOOOHOOOO :D
[12:03] <MonkeyDust> !tor | qqqqq alimj
[12:03] <PatrickDickey> ni291187: Does everything seem to be working?
[12:03] <dr_willis> there are generic indicator-applet examples in python you could make show whatever info you wanted
[12:03] <qqqqq> PatrickDickey, I already use Tor but for some applications Tor is too slow.
[12:04] <kmicu> Or I can gparted my disk and give more space for my partition... nvm
[12:04] <PatrickDickey> kmicu: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/tag/indicator-applets
[12:04] <coder2> how to set the boot option in ubuntu 11.10 "acpi_backlight=vendor"
[12:04] <MonkeyDust> coder2  11.10 is no longer supported
[12:04] <ni291187> I'm in Ubuntu and I can access the network
[12:04] <alimj> q^5: Use the Obscuring version. Please note that it is beta
[12:04] <qqqqq> PatrickDickey, I am not THAT worried but it is none of my ISP damn business what I look at. I pay for the access to the Internet.
[12:04] <dr_willis> coder2:  grub2 = /etc/default/grub   No idea what 11.10 uses
[12:05] <coder2> MonkeyDust, tell me for 12.10 then :)
[12:05] <kmicu> PatrickDickey: And where is disk usage one? :)
[12:05] <qqqqq> MonkeyDust, I have been using Tor for many years.
[12:05] <coder2> dr_willis, thanks buddy as always :)
[12:06] <ni291187> thank you patrocldickey, dr_willis
[12:06] <qqqqq> It was rather a technical question so I know what is going on when I don't use Tor or someone else doesn't.
[12:06] <PatrickDickey> No problem ni291187. Glad you got it going.
[12:07] <alimj> q^5: We hope that it is clear for you now...
[12:07] <hansol> im searching a website from where can i extract emails (free)
[12:07] <qqqqq> alimj, what obscuring versoin?
[12:08] <ni291187> I like it, but.. this install is not like the one I had for the virtualbox, much easier, but... I don't have kde. can is there a way I can select the GUI on boot up?
[12:08] <alimj> q^5: Let me send you the URL
[12:08] <qqqqq> alimj, yes thx for the help.
[12:08] <dr_willis> ni291187:  install the desktop you want ise the menus on the login screen
[12:08] <dr_willis> this may be mentioned in that ubuntu manual
[12:09] <angs> what is the command to search a directory name to locate?
[12:09] <alimj> q^5: https://www.torproject.org/projects/obfsproxy.html.en
[12:09] <ni291187> oooo... should have read it more :x
[12:09] <ni291187> I'm updating ATM so I can't do anything
[12:09] <riddlebox> why does normal unity drain my battery on my laptop so fast? If I use 2D mode I get way more battery life and unity seems to respond better
[12:09] <PatrickDickey> kmicu: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2012/10/easily-monitor-system-usage-in-ubuntu-12-10-with-syspeek or http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2012/02/easily-monitor-system-resources-in-ubuntu-with-indicator-multiload or http://askubuntu.com/questions/30334/what-application-indicators-are-available should get you started.
[12:10] <MonkeyDust> angs  there's find and locate
[12:10] <PatrickDickey> ni291187: install kubuntu-desktop and then you'll click the little circle by your name on the login screen.
[12:10] <qqqqq> alimj, thx
[12:10] <angs> thank you MonkeyDust
[12:10] <dr_willis> They really need to make that Circle menu button Much more obvious.
[12:10] <ni291187> Patrick, soon as this update finishes, I'll do just that
[12:11] <dr_willis> you may want to use unity for a while.. since all the docs basically assume you are using unity. ;)
[12:11] <alimj> q^5: You are welcome. Or you can use some fast L2TP/IPSec and/or OpenVPN from some providers that honor customer privacy
[12:11] <PatrickDickey> dr_willis: I agree. Too bad some of the people in charge aren't in here.
[12:11] <dr_willis> I still dont know whats up with the little grid of dots on the login screen
[12:11] <kmicu> PatrickDickey: I have tried them all, but no prefs for disk usage in all of them ;] Anyway thx.
[12:11] <damian__^> hi, i have overclocked my GMA 950 using setpci, specifically:  sudo setpci -s 02.0 f0.b=00,60  | sudo setpci -s 02.0 f0.b=33,05, how can i check its clock speed. the fan is definately running faster and it is a little hotter but can i print the current clock speed somehow?
[12:11] <alimj> q^5: Since ISPs are controlling torrent traffic in some countries, many are using such services
[12:12] <PatrickDickey> kmicu: Did you google disk usage indicator applets ubuntu 12.10? You might find the one you want there.
[12:12] <PatrickDickey> Or just use a conky script like the OMG!Ubuntu site discusses.
[12:12] <kmicu> Yes. ;]
[12:13] <PatrickDickey> I don't remember the grid of dots.. Are they near the top right, or where?
[12:13] <PatrickDickey> Unless it's the accessibility one (virtual keyboard and such).
[12:13] <tocacar> Grrr.. I'm just getting a blank (purple) screen when I log into my Ubuntu 12.10 vbox - how can I fix it?
[12:13] <dr_willis> PatrickDickey:  across the whole screen last time i looked. i always used some tweak to remove them actually im using GDM now...
[12:13] <ni291187> omg ,I just discovered the workspace switcher
[12:13] <hansol> im searching one website (big database for registrations, e-mails) from whre i can search some emails it was with white background, anyone can help me ???
[12:14] <qqqqq> Does anybody know whether the Firefox plugin https everywhere requires Tor to be installed?
[12:14] <PatrickDickey> Ahhh ok. I think I know what you're talking about. When it first boots up? Or maybe I don't.
[12:14] <dr_willis> hansol:  thats not very clear what you need help with
[12:14] <PatrickDickey> ni291187: Just think of the possibilities you can do with that. :D
[12:14] <dr_willis> PatrickDickey:  the lightdm wallpaper used to have some overlay of white dots.
[12:14] <rigo> one more thing.. does it makes any sence to upgrade the system to the latest v3.7.2-raring ?
[12:15] <PatrickDickey> Not sure then. The only dots I remember are when it boots up, and it's a progress bar. Of course, I don't use the lightdm wallpaper.
[12:15] <tocacar> why do I have no dock, no icons, no menus?
[12:15] <dr_willis> ring0:  only if you want to be a beta tester and submit bugs.. and expect lots of weirdness
[12:15] <angs> how can I see hidden files on nautilus?
[12:15] <alimj> q^5: No. It does not require TOR
[12:15] <dr_willis> tocacar:  3d support is lacking. and unity/compiz is not fully loading
[12:15] <ni291187> Patrick, I could reduce my need to drag windows around! which I constantly do on windows
[12:15] <MonkeyDust> angs  vtrl-h
[12:15] <MonkeyDust> angs  ctrl-h
[12:15] <PatrickDickey> VIew > SHow Hidden Files
[12:15] <ni291187> they should call windows 7, drag windows
[12:15] <angs> thank you MonkeyDust
[12:15] <tocacar> dr_willis: is it hard to fix? I have no idea what to do
[12:15] <angs> and PatrickDickey
[12:16] <apm1> is there a way i can put the unity-launcher bar in horizontal mode
[12:16] <apm1> kinda like a dock
[12:16] <dr_willis> tocacar:  i tend to run lubuntu in vbox. since 3d eyecandy would slow down  the vm a lot.
[12:16] <kmicu> PatrickDickey: Is conky still a cpu hog?
[12:16] <dr_willis> apm1:  not really. You can just install a dock.
[12:16] <PatrickDickey> ni291187: I was thinking more about your projects that you mentioned earlier. YOu could set up an entire workspace for each one.
[12:16] <qqqqq> I think https everywhere is the best Firefox extension ever. Then again I read that SSL is broken.
[12:16] <tocacar> dr_willis: lubuntu...never heard of that. I'll google it
[12:16] <tocacar> dr_willis: is it just going to install and run? I'm sick of faffing around
[12:16] <dr_willis> tocacar:  sudo apt-get install lubuntu-desktop ;) its the lightest full featured desktop/variant of ubuntu
[12:16] <skp1> apm1: google unity bottom launcher
[12:17] <dr_willis> any unity hacks to move it to the bottom are basically not supported here.. and last i looked at them.. were very flakey
[12:17] <ioria> tocarar: it's with the LXDE de very light...
[12:17] <PatrickDickey> Not really kmicu. I've got conky, skype, terminal, google chrome, quassel, and thunderbird open. And my cpu is only using around 35%.
[12:17] <rigo> ?
[12:17] <PatrickDickey> tocacar: I'm using lubuntu right now.
[12:18] <dr_willis> tocacar:  you could just use a window manager if you wanted like openbox.. it will take about 90 sec i imagine to get openbox installed. ;)
[12:18] <ioria> tocarar: i'm running lubuntu on a pentium 3 with 500mb  pc133 ram
[12:18] <PatrickDickey> apm1: Check the settings. There used to be an option for where the launcher was.
[12:18] <apm1> PatrickDickey, i checked nothing there to move it
[12:18] <kmicu> But i have weak laptop and my /usr/bin/X takes 20% CPU :P
[12:18] <tocacar> dr_willis: PatrickDickey: I'm just running that lubuntu-desktop installer now (I'm totally new to Ubuntu...does it show? heh)
[12:19] <PatrickDickey> tocacar: we all were, at one point or another.
[12:19] <dr_willis> tocacar:  luubntu in vbox on a windows system .. is a handy tool.
[12:19] <apm1> any way i can remove the launcher all together ?
[12:19] <MonkeyDust> tocacar  we're always glad to welcome new users
[12:19] <rigo> nevermind i install it :D
[12:19] <dr_willis> apm1:  use a differnt desktop if you dont want unity
[12:19] <tocacar> I'm so glad you guys are here and online - I appreciate your help
[12:20] <apm1> dr_willis, i like it except for the launcher :p
[12:20] <dr_willis> apm1:  customize and make your own desktop if you want to go  fancy
[12:20] <PatrickDickey> lubuntu actually comes with the OpenBox Configuration Manager.
[12:20] <dr_willis> apm1:  the launcher basically is  the desktop in unity... its the core of the whole thing
[12:20] <PatrickDickey> apm1: When you login, you can use Gnome Classic. Or install Gnome-desktop.
[12:20] <dr_willis> so im not sure what else ther is to like/dislike
[12:21] <PatrickDickey> rigo, what are you installing?
[12:21] <rigo> the latest v3.7.2-raring ?
[12:21] <dr_willis> You can install some fancy dock and have it at the bottom of the unity desktop. and set the unity panel to auto hide
[12:22] <rigo> shit. i got dpkg: error processing linux-headers-3.7.2-030702-generic (--install):  dependency problems - leaving unconfigured
[12:22] <ni291187> you know?i feel it's running kinda slow. is there a system performance... like things are slow. compiz crashes. sometimes the system freezes for a few seconds
[12:22] <PatrickDickey> dr_willis replied to you earlier. only if you want to be a beta tester, report bugs, and experience weirdness.
[12:22] <dr_willis> ni291187:  and your video card is?
[12:22] <apm1> dr_willis, the top panel
[12:22] <apm1> ok since without the launcher unity is crippled then xfce is my last resort
[12:22] <MonkeyDust> apm1  try docky, if you like fancy eyecandy
[12:22] <dr_willis> apm1:  theres many other desktops out..
[12:22] <dr_willis> apm1:  go experiment.
[12:23] <ni291187> dr_willis, gtx 660
[12:23] <PatrickDickey> apm1: Try kde. The launcher is on the bottom.
[12:23] <dr_willis> ni291187:  you have installed the nvidia drivers yet? there should have been a pop up window prompting you.
[12:23] <ni291187> nope
[12:23] <dr_willis> there ya go. ;)
[12:23] <ni291187> if I install them, would they work with kde as well?
[12:23] <PatrickDickey> I think you can find it in Software Sources on the last tab (Additional Drivers) ni291187.
[12:24] <dr_willis> I normally install the 'nvidia-current' package for my nvidia cards..not sure what a gtx660 uses
[12:24] <PatrickDickey> ni291187: drivers are hardware. They work with the kernel.
[12:24] <ni291187> I mean, it's sooo slow... I can't believe how long Kvirc is taking
[12:24] <dr_willis> ni291187:  the desktop runs on tops of the linux OS.. so they all use the same core.
[12:24] <tocacar> hmm, as this installs I'm seeing a lot of 'package not found's hope its going to work out :S
[12:24] <ni291187> ok
[12:24] <PatrickDickey> well, technically they're software. but they work with the kernel. So, they'll work with whatever desktop you have.
[12:24] <dr_willis> ni291187:  You allready have kubuntu-desktop installed?
[12:24] <ni291187> how do I install the Linux drivers?
[12:25] <ni291187> not yet
[12:25] <dr_willis> so how can kvirc be slow if its not installed yet?
[12:25] <ni291187> I mean the installation
[12:25] <ni291187> should I install the drivers first?
[12:25] <dr_willis> ni291187:  that would be your download speed then... that has nothign to do with video drivers
[12:25]  * tocacar restarts the vb
[12:26] <PatrickDickey> ni291187: You can do it one of a few ways. Look in Software Sources, on the Additional Drivers tab. It'll tell you if there are drivers available. Or, if you know which nvidia driver you need, you can use sudo apt-get install nvidia- (like sudo apt-get install nvidia-current) in a terminal.
[12:27] <dr_willis> night all...
[12:27] <tocacar> ROAAAR
[12:27] <PatrickDickey> Night dr_willis.
[12:27] <tocacar> blank purple screen
[12:27] <BillyZane|2> hi!
[12:27] <rigo> so what about raring 3.7.2 kernel? does it make any sence to install it?
[12:27] <tocacar> a very quick flash of blue 'lubuntu' screen on login, then purple
[12:27] <BillyZane|2> finally, i'm legit
[12:27] <PatrickDickey> wb BillyZane|2.
[12:27] <BillyZane|2> ty :)
[12:27] <tocacar> bah, I give up.
[12:28] <BillyZane|2> so, next phase, getting the drivers. should i do this through the nvidia website, or is available on the installer
[12:28] <BillyZane|2> soooo hungry
[12:28] <BillyZane|2> i ate once today
[12:28] <PatrickDickey> tocacar: you can download the lubuntu disc, and mount it in the virtual machine. Then install it.
[12:28] <BillyZane|2> i can't stop
[12:28] <PatrickDickey> Go eat. LOL
[12:28] <BillyZane|2> i'm on a mission
[12:28] <MonkeyDust> BillyZane|2  not too many random remarks, please
[12:28] <PatrickDickey> BillyZane|2: get them from the repositories.
[12:28] <BillyZane|2> ok
[12:29] <tocacar> PatrickDickey: OK, I'll try that. Another time though, as I'm hopping mad now
[12:29] <tocacar> thanks for your help today
[12:29] <BillyZane|2> is the repositories the name of the "app store"
[12:29] <PatrickDickey> tocacar: I've been there. No problem.
[12:29] <PatrickDickey> BillyZane|2: yes.
[12:29] <PatrickDickey> repositories are the download sites.
[12:30] <BillyZane|2> it's not on the repository
[12:31] <PatrickDickey> which one are you looking for?
[12:31] <PatrickDickey> repositories | BillyZane|2
[12:31] <PatrickDickey> !repositories | BillyZane|2
[12:31] <BillyZane|2> MSI nvidia twin frozer III GTX 660
[12:31] <Mrokii> Hello. Can somebody tell me where bash saves its preferences, regarding colour profiles?
[12:32] <PatrickDickey> BillyZane|2: you're looking for something like nvidia-current or nvidia-updates (most likely current
[12:32] <PatrickDickey> !nvidia
[12:32] <damian__^> anyone know how to overclock a GMA 950 i can set registers using setpci but intel_gpu_top reports 200mhz when im doing the command that from my understanding sets the clock to 400mhz
[12:32] <PatrickDickey> That should help you out BillyZane|2 ^^
[12:32] <BillyZane|2> ty patrick, i'm reading that website
[12:33] <rigo> i get dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of linux-headers-3.7.2-030702-generic:  linux-headers-3.7.2-030702-generic depends on linux-headers-3.7.2-030702; however:   Package linux-headers-3.7.2-030702 is not installed.
[12:33] <PatrickDickey> rigo: How are you doing the upgrade?
[12:34] <rigo> download the 3 deb files from here http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/v3.7.2-raring/
[12:34] <rigo> and dpkg -i *.deb
[12:34] <MonkeyDust> rigo  raring support in #ubuntu+1
[12:34] <rigo> oh. thanks.
[12:35] <PatrickDickey> rigo: you want to use the upgrade manager to do it. At least that's the easy way.
[12:35] <rigo> i have only command line.
[12:36] <PatrickDickey> rigo: http://lawrit.lawr.ucdavis.edu/it-help-center/how-to/upgrading-ubuntu-via-command-line might be a good start
[12:38] <rigo> thanks
[12:49] <BillyZane|2> hmm? netsplit
[12:50] <damian__^> whats the best looking distro?
[12:50] <PatrickDickey> Ooops. I fell out.
[12:51] <BillyZane|2> wb
[12:51] <PatrickDickey> thanks.
[12:51] <MonkeyDust> damian__^  pinguy OS is overkill eyecandy
[12:51] <BillyZane|2> patrick, i couldn't find it on the repository, so i was going to just download them from the nvidia website
[12:51] <PatrickDickey> BillyZane|2: did you try sudo apt-get install nvidia-current
[12:51] <Invisible|3> :)
[12:52] <PatrickDickey> That's most lilkely what you need.
[12:52] <BillyZane|2> i haven't, to be honest, i don't know how to enter konsole from this GUI
[12:52] <BillyZane|2> is there a run .. oh wait
[12:52] <BillyZane|2> i know where it is, under apps
[12:52] <PatrickDickey> CTRL+Alt+T keys
[12:52] <PatrickDickey> Or, click the launcher and type Terminal
[12:52] <damian__^> thanks monkeydust, ill check it out
[12:52] <BillyZane|2> ooo... nice
[12:52] <MonkeyDust> damian__^  mind: not supported here
[12:53] <damian__^> of course :)
[12:53] <BillyZane|2> umm... you know, i'm losing things that i opened
[12:53] <BillyZane|2> should they all be on the left side if opened?
[12:53] <Eagleman> How do i allow the user jrpoot to login on<EMAIL_ADDRESS>and deny login on<EMAIL_ADDRESS>in dovecot ?
[12:53] <BillyZane|2> oh i found it
[12:53] <PatrickDickey> BillyZane|2: move your cursor to the left side and the launcher should open. They'll have a little arrow next to them.
[12:54] <PatrickDickey> Eagleman: you'll have more luck in #dovecot than here.
[12:55] <BillyZane|2> patrickdickey apt-get does what again? does it just download the application? i was using something called aptitude on KDE before
[12:55] <damian__^> btw, does someone know, will ubuntu mobile eventually be merged into ubuntu? so they are the same os? i have seen the galaxy nexus build and heard that you can simply bring it home, plug in a keyboard mouse and monitor and have a fill ubuntu desktop..?
[12:55] <damian__^> full*
[12:55] <PatrickDickey> apt-get is a variation of aptitude.
[12:55] <PatrickDickey> It does the same thing, with some minor limitations.
[12:55] <damian__^> or will ubuntu mobile be a different product that offers a full desktop too?
[12:56] <BillyZane|2> what is the variation? how can i learn of these variations like you know
[12:56] <MonkeyDust> damian__^  better ask in #ubuntu-phone
[12:56] <BillyZane|2> how can i learn all the little details, is there a good book for learning this
[12:56] <PatrickDickey> It's just another backend for dpkg.  dpkg is the actual installer, apt (apt-get) and aptitude are the backends that you use.
[12:57] <PatrickDickey> BillyZane|2: how familiar are you with aptitude?
[12:57] <damian__^> oh, hehe, thanks again monkeydust
[12:57] <BillyZane|2> i know how to use the command  sudo aptitude install program
[12:57] <ioria> there is olsa Gdebi
[12:57] <llutz> !aptitude
[12:57] <ioria> also
[12:57] <PatrickDickey> it's the same thing with apt. Except you'll say apt-get.
[12:58] <BillyZane|2> why are there two versions, why not just use apt-get
[12:58] <PatrickDickey> There's more than one way to skin a cat.
[12:58] <ioria> i love cats
[12:58] <iceroot> BillyZane|2: please dont use aptitude when you are using amd64 (64bit)
[12:59] <BillyZane|2> i am currently using the amd64 version
[12:59] <PatrickDickey> It's all about preference. Some like aptitude, some like apt-get, some like compiling from source, and some refuse to use a command line at all.
[12:59] <iceroot> BillyZane|2: then please dont use aptitude, use apt-get or the software-center
[12:59] <BillyZane|2> hmm... so using apt-get only downloads the source?
[12:59] <BillyZane|2> oh n/m
[12:59] <ActionParsnip> Patrickdickey: how is apt-get 'with minor limitations'?
[12:59] <PatrickDickey> BillyZane|2: no. apt-get does the complete installation.
[13:00] <ioria> no it looks for dependencies and install the program
[13:00] <BillyZane|2> iceroot, why shouldn't i use aptitude with amd64?
[13:00] <llutz> BillyZane|2:  See http://pad.lv/831768 for more information.
[13:00] <iceroot> BillyZane|2: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/aptitude/+bug/831768
[13:00] <PatrickDickey> ActionParsnip: I was going from a bad memory. Since aptitude seems to have different features.
[13:00] <MonkeyDust> BillyZane|2  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGet/Howto?action=show&redirect=AptGetHowto
[13:01] <ActionParsnip> Billyzane|2: stick to apt-get, it handles multi-arch wheras aptitude does not. Patrickdickey you should also know this
[13:01] <BillyZane|2> i have no idea what that means
[13:01] <BillyZane|2> but i'll stick to apt-get
[13:01] <BillyZane|2> evidently it's the same thing
[13:01] <iceroot> BillyZane|2: its just means "dont use aptitude" :)
[13:01] <BillyZane|2> lol
[13:01] <iceroot> BillyZane|2: apt-get is not the same thing as aptitude but its doing what you want, installing software
[13:02] <ActionParsnip> Billyzane|2: its similar,  but you have 64bit and the dual arch needs appreciating
[13:02] <BillyZane|2> i stand corrected
[13:02] <iceroot> BillyZane|2: there are things which can be done with aptitude better then with apt-get and there are things which can be done better with apt-get. for normal software-installations apt-get is the recommend way on ubuntu when you want to use the command lione
[13:03] <ActionParsnip> !aptitude
[13:03] <srhb> I really don't understand the xdg-open script. Given a magnet link, the execution path tries to see if it's a file (fails) and otherwise just calls the browser with the link.  You need LPI101 and LPI102 first
[13:06] <cfhowlett> BluesKaj, greetings!
[13:06] <kris_therrien> Can anyone help me setup ircd hybrid?
[13:07] <BluesKaj> hey cfhowlett
[13:07] <ActionParsnip> !manual | Njd001 may also help
[13:07] <PatrickDickey> njd001: #ubuntu-classroom is where they do most of the educational things.
[13:08] <srhb> PatrickDickey: Thank you, the fact that it just does not handle magnet links in a generic environment was the issue.
[13:09] <ActionParsnip> Njd001: I find just using the OS teaches more than any book or lesson. Just like you probably learned Windows.......
[13:09] <PatrickDickey> srhb: Glad you found the answer. :)
[13:09] <srhb> The behaviour does seem buggy though, simply not handling them in the generic case, but I may miss a crucial point. Ah well, works now.
[13:10] <PatrickDickey> srhb: I'd bookmark that page, in case it breaks again.
[13:11] <srhb> PatrickDickey: Looks like it will for sure. Thanks. :-)
[13:11] <halides> 'lo
[13:11] <PatrickDickey> No problem. I'm thinking I need to do that too. Although I always use the .torrent file.
[13:11] <halides> having troubles with my synaptics
[13:11] <ActionParsnip> Halides: what issue
[13:12] <PatrickDickey> halides: what types of troubles?
[13:12] <halides> i have a touchpad with two buttons, such that the are where the buttons reside are also a part of the touchpad
[13:12] <halides> now, if i right-click with one finger and drag with another, i don't get f.ex. boxes on the desktop, but rather a two-finger scroll
[13:13] <halides> i tried disabling two-finger scroll with synclient, it still doesn't make the drag after the click, rather just discards the events
[13:13] <halides> this is on 12.04
[13:13] <halides> .1 LTS
[13:13] <halides> :-)
[13:14] <halides> i also have limited the area with AreaBottomEdge, but it still understands the click also as a touch
[13:14] <ActionParsnip> Halides: does the system have a make and model?
[13:15] <halides> it's a dell inspiron mini 1012
[13:16] <halides> http://patchwork.freedesktop.org/patch/9477/ this patch seems to be relevant, but pfffff i don't really want to go through all that hassle
[13:16] <halides> and then find out "oh, didn't work"
[13:16] <ushills> Any ideas how to sync an iPod touch with banshee
[13:16] <MonkeyDust> !ipod
[13:18] <BillyZane|2> PatrickDickey: hey man, are you still around?
[13:18] <PatrickDickey> BillyZane|2: Yep.
[13:19] <BillyZane|2> i downloaded the linux drivers from the nvidia website, the file is a .run file, when i go to open it, it does it in the text editor
[13:19] <ushills> Doesn't seem to work with the latest firmwares, shows as a device but will not mount
[13:19] <ActionParsnip> Halides: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1443535
[13:19] <PatrickDickey> BillyZane|2: in the command line, you need to type chmod +x filename (where filename is what you downloaded).
[13:20] <BillyZane|2> what does that command do?
[13:20] <BillyZane|2> how does it work?
[13:20] <BillyZane|2> what is chmod , what is the +x for
[13:20] <PatrickDickey> chmod is change mode. +x is make it executable.
[13:21] <PatrickDickey> if you type ls -l with the filename, you'll probably see something like -rw-rw-rw- username username size date filename.run
[13:21] <BillyZane|2> so it's sorta like the equivilant of changing the file  extension on windows?
[13:21] <halides> ActionParsnip: yeah, that was i think the first page which i ran into when i started debugging this :-)
[13:21] <halides> but thanks for the effort :-)
[13:22] <PatrickDickey> Well it's more like telling windows that the extension is an executable file.
[13:22] <auronandace> BillyZane|2: why aren't you using the drivers in the repos?
[13:22] <BluesKaj> BillyZane|2, open a terminal and do ./nameofnvidiafile.run
[13:23] <PatrickDickey> auronandace: I'll take a crack at why not. I don't think he knows which driver he should use. He has a GTX 660, if I remember right.
[13:23] <ActionParsnip> Billyzane|2:  why not just run:  sudo apt-get install nvidia-current
[13:23] <BillyZane|2> i tried running it...
[13:23] <BillyZane|2> i did that also
[13:23] <BillyZane|2> but lets try it again
[13:23] <PatrickDickey> What happened?
[13:23] <BillyZane|2> i did it through the GUI
[13:24] <BillyZane|2> it downloaded, it installed
[13:24] <PatrickDickey> BillyZane|2: then you need to reboot, so it will use those drivers.
[13:24] <BillyZane|2> ok
[13:24] <ActionParsnip> Billyzane|2: the proposed repo has the 310 driver
[13:24] <BillyZane|2> a physical reboot?
[13:24] <PatrickDickey> Yes.
[13:24] <BillyZane|2> ok
[13:24] <BillyZane|2> brb
[13:27] <skp1> https://launchpad.net/unity-tweak-tool
[13:27] <PatrickDickey> BillyZane: is it rebooting ok?
[13:27] <PatrickDickey> whois BillyZane
[13:27] <PatrickDickey> darn /'s. :S
[13:28] <ni291187> problem......
[13:28] <ni291187> it's bad
[13:28] <BluesKaj> skp1, don't just post a url and expect responses ...describe your issue first
[13:28] <PatrickDickey> ni291187: What's the problem?
[13:28] <ActionParsnip> Ni291187: what is the issue
[13:28] <skp1> i have no issue, it;s a recommendation. great program.
[13:28] <ni291187> I see background, no side bar, I see a file on desktop kvirc.desktop, guessing its a shortcut
[13:29] <ni291187> it's not loading
[13:29] <BluesKaj> skp1, then say so
[13:29] <skp1> i just did.
[13:29] <PatrickDickey> skp1: I think he meant when you put the link up. ;)
[13:29] <skp1> oh, ok. sorry. hehe.
[13:29] <BluesKaj> he knows
[13:30] <PatrickDickey> ActionParsnip: you mentioned that the proposed has a driver that he might need, right? the 310 driver?
[13:30] <ActionParsnip> N1291187: if you press ctrl + alt + t    do you get a terminal?
[13:30] <ActionParsnip> Patrickdickey: I believe so
[13:30] <Raju> Can somebody tell me how to connect to internet using PPP prototocol and ADSL modem with userid and password given by ISP
[13:31] <auronandace> !ppp | Raju
[13:31] <ActionParsnip> Patrickdickey: or you can add the xorg update ppa (not the edgers)
[13:31] <samadhan> hi all
[13:31] <Raju> ppp didn't work, I am using Bodhi linux
[13:31] <ni291187> I think it is a problem with the display size, I can get in to terminal with Carl alt t
[13:32] <MonkeyDust> Raju  #bodhilinux
[13:32] <auronandace> Raju: bodhi isn't supported here
[13:32] <ActionParsnip> Raju: bodhi isn't supported here
[13:32] <samadhan> i m trying to install ubuntu 12.04 on my windows.but installer do not start
[13:32] <PatrickDickey> ActionParsnip: I'll let you help ni291187, as I use an ATI card. nvidia-current is about all I know for nvidia drivers.
[13:32] <ActionParsnip> Ni291187: if you run: sudo apt-get update    do you hit servers ok?
[13:32] <MonkeyDust> samadhan  wubi?
[13:33] <samadhan> yes
[13:33] <samadhan> wubi.exe
[13:33] <ni291187> yes sudo apt-get update now asks for a password
[13:33] <MonkeyDust> samadhan  don't use ir, you'll get frustrated, like this other user, just yesterday
[13:33] <MonkeyDust> it*
[13:33] <PatrickDickey> ni291187: it's the same password you logged in with.
[13:33] <ActionParsnip> Ni291187: type your login password and hit enter
[13:33] <ni291187> I believe it is a display resolution problem. however, I can't get in to the display settings menu via right clicking without causing that settings section to crash
[13:34]  * PatrickDickey steps back
[13:34] <samadhan> i have downloaded iso file too.but nothing works
[13:34] <ni291187> I'm updating now
[13:34] <ActionParsnip> Samadhan: did you MD5 test the ISO?
[13:34] <MonkeyDust> samadhan  see? better install ubuntu on its own partition, not inside windows
[13:34] <ni291187> update is done, reboot?
[13:35] <samadhan> how to test md5?
[13:35] <PatrickDickey> samadhan: You'll want to burn the iso to a DVD after testing it. Then install it alongside Windows, by booting up to the DVD.
[13:35] <samadhan> ok
[13:35] <ActionParsnip> Ni291187: that didn't change the OS
[13:35] <samadhan> i have done it on usb
[13:35] <ni291187> what should I do
[13:35] <ActionParsnip> Ni291187: sudo apt-get upgrade; sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[13:35] <samadhan> but usb boot doesnt work
[13:36] <ActionParsnip> ! Md5 @| samadhan
[13:36] <ActionParsnip> !md5
[13:36] <PatrickDickey> samadhan: do you have any dvd's?
[13:36] <samadhan> yes
[13:36] <ni291187> ok I did that
[13:37] <ActionParsnip> Samadhan: if you didn't MD5 test the ISO, how did you know it was complete and error free?
[13:37] <ni291187> should I reboot? should I install kubuntu?
[13:37] <Raju> how to connect to internet using ppp protocol\
[13:37] <samadhan> i have made bootable usb and checked integrity
[13:37] <MonkeyDust> Raju  aks in #bodhilinux
[13:37] <MonkeyDust> ask*
[13:37] <ActionParsnip> Ni291187: once it completes, reboot
[13:37] <auronandace> Raju: bodhi isn't supported here
[13:38] <_helios_> samadhan, more than likely your computer doesn't support booting from usb,.
[13:38] <ActionParsnip> Raju: bodhi stil isn't supported here, you aren't using Ubuntu
[13:38] <samadhan> k
[13:39] <ni291187> gnome is totally F'ed.
[13:39] <ni291187> can I uninstall the display drivers?
[13:39] <ActionParsnip> Raju: your distribution has its own support network which is separate to Ubuntu's. This channel only supports official releases,  nit hack spinoffs like bodhi
[13:40] <SapphireDensetsu> In 2 days, I'm going to have an IEP, where, among other things, the school wants a demonstration of Linux, and it's advantages over Windows.  What should I do?
[13:40] <auronandace> ActionParsnip: he left
[13:40] <ActionParsnip> Ni291187: sure, itsva package like any other, did you run the --initial command like on the binary driver how to
[13:40] <PatrickDickey> SapphireDensetsu: Do you have a linux computer set up for the demonstration?
[13:40] <ActionParsnip> Aurondance: thanks
[13:40] <WXZ> I'm having a bit of a problem understanding the difference between a window manager and a desktop environment
[13:41] <SapphireDensetsu> As a matter of fact, it's the computer I'm messaging from right now.
[13:41] <auronandace> SapphireDensetsu: what advantages can you think of?
[13:41] <PatrickDickey> SapphireDensetsu: what research have you done on advantages of linux vs windows?
[13:42] <MonkeyDust> WXZ  window manager is what makes your windows move on the screen, DE is what your desktop looks like, the bars and menus etc
[13:42] <SapphireDensetsu> In an educational setting, pretty much that it would be secure, it would be fast, they wouldn't have to be overburdened with new hardware, and that the students would like it.
[13:42] <PatrickDickey> 1. Fewer (read as very rare) viruses and malware. 2. Works on older hardware. 3. Less upfront cost (no license fees). There are a ton more.
[13:42] <SapphireDensetsu> Besides that?  I don't know.
[13:42] <WXZ> MonkeyDust: well that's where I have the problem, the awesome window manager for instance, it has it's own bars and menus, but it's a window manager
[13:43] <ioria> SapphireDensetsu: do you know how may errores the windows registry produces ? and at last the system is unrecoverable
[13:43] <MonkeyDust> WXZ  awesome is not for beginners, IMO
[13:43] <SapphireDensetsu> It's a red-flag Microsoft district, that's for certain.  But the teachers are frustrated with their inadequate hardware, and the demands of Windows.
[13:43] <WXZ> MonkeyDust: it's mandatory for me kind of
[13:43] <ActionParsnip> Ni291187: I assume you ran: sudo aticonfig --initial
[13:43] <_helios_> You guys might already be aware of this, but I got rid of Windows 7 completaly becaues I was browsing through the windows partition using linux and found some log files.  Them aholes at microsoft were logging every mouse movement I made.  Now if that isn't a privacy violation I dunno what is.
[13:44] <BRKsays> hey can anybody tell me whether openjdk is actively maintained or not?
[13:44] <SapphireDensetsu> As for working with Windows, I've used and converted dozens of systems, but this will be my first group repair.
[13:44] <PatrickDickey> ActionParsnip: he has a nvidia card. would he still run aticonfig?
[13:44] <MonkeyDust> WXZ  how so? low specs? maybe we can find a different solution
[13:44] <ActionParsnip> Patrickdickey: thought it was a ati
[13:44] <PatrickDickey> BRKsays: yes it is. Oracle doesn't officially support java on Linux anymore because OpenJDK is supposed to be up to par.
[13:45] <PatrickDickey> !java | BRKsays
[13:45] <WXZ> MonkeyDust: I need to be able to switch between workspaces on different monitors
[13:46] <PatrickDickey> ni291187: How're you doing there?
[13:46] <SapphireDensetsu> But anyways, I need the demonstration to be flawless, so that the teachers demand Linux in their classrooms.  Anyways, at least Ms. Orpurt already wants it.  On a somewhat unrelated side note, how does Xubuntu or Lubuntu do on a Wilamette Pentium 4?
[13:46] <_helios_> SapphireDensetsu, that is something you can add to your list Microsoft spys on its customers constantly they have hidden keyloggers pre-installed.
[13:46] <MonkeyDust> WXZ  not sure what you mean or where the problem lies
[13:47] <oliver__> hi there, I set chmod 2775 on a directory and now I cant remove it, I tried both chmod 775 and 0775 but the permissions stays the same
[13:47] <oliver__> drwxrwsr-x
[13:47] <oliver__> i wont
[13:47] <oliver__> drwxrwxr-x
[13:47] <PatrickDickey> SapphireDensetsu: Probably better than Ubuntu, as they use a lightweight desktop manager.
[13:47] <WXZ> MonkeyDust: basically, I need a sort of zaphod-mode setup where I can move windows across desktops
[13:47] <somsip> oliver__: chmod g-s
[13:47] <ni291187> ummm... disaster
[13:47] <PatrickDickey> But SapphireDensetsu, you'll probably want something more like Edubuntu
[13:47] <SapphireDensetsu> Helios:  If I said that, they would say I'm out of my mind.  And yes, I've seen the NSAKEY symbol on debug/checked NT, so I know what you're talking about.
[13:47] <oliver__> somsip: thanks, worked!
[13:47] <WXZ> MonkeyDust: awesome provides a similar functionality where I can have 2 monitors, but set different workspaces on each monitor (monitor 1 = workspace 1, monitor 2 = workspace 2)
[13:48] <BRKsays> I have openjdk 7 installed. I asked because when I try to vrify my java version it says java 7 version 9. but it is outdated. there is a version 7.10. I'm not a developer. I just java for browsing. So should I install oracle too? I have heard oracle java is actively maintained and updates and fixes are provided?
[13:48] <techouse> postfix is bouncing all my mail :P
[13:48] <techouse> Jan 13 14:45:13 Mk5 postfix/error[8433]: 3EEF0680F5<EMAIL_ADDRESS>relay=none, delay=0.23, delays=0.16/0/0/0.07, dsn=5.0.0, status=bounced (live.com)
[13:48] <techouse> dahell :P
[13:48] <ActionParsnip> Brksays: how did you install java?
[13:48] <PatrickDickey> BRKsays: technically right now, you shouldn't run Java at all. There's a security vulnerability for Java 7 Update 10 that affects everyone.
[13:48] <SapphireDensetsu> Yes, I probably would, but it would bring the poor old Wilamettes down to their knees, not to mention Unity.  I'd install Xubuntu, and then the Edubuntu packages for the best of both worlds.
[13:48] <_helios_> SapphireDensetsu, that's the problem these days and Windows 8 is even worse than Windows 7,  But nobody will believe you they spy even if you put the logs in there face...lol
[13:49] <disharmonic> evening
[13:49] <disharmonic>  Would you recommend mtpfs or simple-mtpfs for Android phones?
[13:50] <PatrickDickey> SapphireDensetsu: I'd say install it on one of the Wilamettes and use that for the demonstration. That way they can see it working in their real-time environment. You'll want to show them that they can still do whatever they need to do.
[13:50] <_helios_> I wouldn't recommend mtpfs at all lol
[13:50] <PatrickDickey> disharmonic: #ubuntu-phone
[13:50] <PatrickDickey> Well maybe not. Maybe #android instead.
[13:50] <disharmonic> PatrickDickey, this has nothing to do with Ubuntu for Phones
[13:51] <SapphireDensetsu> They wouldn't let me do that in a million years, especially considering my past history, and that I'm not technically enrolled.  But I can show them my Core 2 Duo laptop, which is the next best thing.
[13:51] <MonkeyDust> WXZ  ok, get it, but got to go - put that information in one line and repeat it from time to time - good luck!
[13:52] <ni291187> Patrick... Ubuntu won't work! the display drivers messed it up
[13:52] <PatrickDickey> SapphireDensetsu: Do you have access to a computer that has similar hardware specs to the Wilamettes?
[13:52] <disharmonic> PatrickDickey, both of those are FUSE implementations of MTP for linux.
[13:52] <WXZ> MonkeyDust: ok
[13:52] <PatrickDickey> ni291187: One second.
[13:52] <ni291187> ok
[13:52] <BRKsays> ActionParsnip: In firefox I recieved missing plugin. I tried to install. there were two options. Icedtea 6 and Icedtea 7. when I installed the whole openjdk was installed. I cheked USC and saw openjdk 7, icedtea 7 and web control panel are installed. What I am asking is for normal browsing and gaming stuff is openjdk 7 enough? and do I have to worry abou fixes and updates?
[13:52] <SapphireDensetsu> The closest I have is a big brute of a Northwood sitting around at my house.  Nothing to compare to the Wilamettes though, and certainly nothing I can pack up to the school and demonstrate.
[13:54] <_helios_> SapphireDensetsu, Are you doing this for a college?
[13:54] <_helios_> SapphireDensetsu, Just the fact that Ubuntu is free should get there attention lol
[13:55] <PatrickDickey> ni291187: which nvidia card is it again? So I can check to see which one it's supported by.
[13:55] <ni291187> gtx 660
[13:55] <SapphireDensetsu> No, I'm doing it for the Edwardsburg School District as a whole, a K-12 institution.  And that might get the teachers attention, but the adminstrators wouldn't budge.  I've actually contemplated compromising their servers to teach them a lesson in insecurity, but I've somehow restrained myself.
[13:55] <ni291187> all I see is my desktop background
[13:55] <disharmonic> _helios_, you meant i shouldn't use MTP at all? It's not really an option in my case
[13:55] <ni291187> ip can enter terminal
[13:55] <_helios_> SapphireDensetsu, I goto college and I have shown some people and my professor Ubuntu and they just can't believe its free.
[13:55] <ActionParsnip> Brksays: try: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:webupd8team/java ; sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get install oracle-java7-installer
[13:56] <ActionParsnip> Brksays: it also has oracle-java8-installer
[13:56] <_helios_> disharmonic, I've just had bad experiences with mtp with a mp3 player I fixed for a friend.  Its a picky lil filesystem.
[13:57] <SapphireDensetsu> Yes, and Ms. Orpurt doesn't believe Linux is free even when I insist with my two own puppy-dog eyes.  But like I said, the teachers are no problem, and neither are the students, it's the adminstration.
[13:57] <BluesKaj> BRKsays, stick around and wait for a response , don't just repeat your question
[13:57] <BRKsays> ActionParsnip: okay. I'm gonna try that. thanks:-)
[13:58] <ActionParsnip> Brksays: easier to use a PPA
[13:59] <BRKsays> BluesKaj: I wasn't repeating. I was talking to ActionParsnip. Sorry if that was out of line.
[13:59] <BluesKaj> brs np, you finally did
[13:59] <BluesKaj> BRKsays,
[14:00] <njd001> srhb im not an all windows guy theres just differences between RHEL, bsd, Solaris besides im not paying for it.
[14:00] <SapphireDensetsu> And even then, the admins will object by saying that Linux doesn't teach children about the real world.  Okay then.  Amazon, Google, Facebook, DoD, are you listening?
[14:01] <njd001> SapphireDensetsu is that to me or ?
[14:01]  * njd001 has to spend his training budget
[14:01] <SapphireDensetsu> To no one, really.
[14:01] <njd001> use it or lose it :(
[14:02] <njd001> thank god they dont do that with PTO yet
[14:03] <BluesKaj> SapphireDensetsu, neither does Windows teach about the real world because they think they owm it
[14:03] <PatrickDickey> ni291187: yes you can remove the drivers. sudo apt-get remove nvidia-current will do it.
[14:03] <bazhang> !ot
[14:03] <ni291187> Ty Patrick!
[14:03] <SapphireDensetsu> Of course I use it, I haven't touched Windows in over 3 hours.  But I might as well just demonstrate and hope for the best.  Especially regarding my enrollment.
[14:03] <ni291187> I will try that
[14:03] <PatrickDickey> SapphireDensetsu: are you a student or faculty there?
[14:03] <njd001> also you guys recommend an AWESOME app called pastebin but it doesnt seem apt-get install knows about it perhaps im doing it wrong ? apt-get install pastebin?
[14:03] <bazhang> njd001, pastebinit
[14:04] <njd001> ahh
[14:04] <BluesKaj> !pastebinit
[14:04] <njd001> btw who does the ubuntu classes ?
[14:04] <bazhang> PatrickDickey, SapphireDensetsu chat to #ubuntu-offtopic
[14:04] <SapphireDensetsu> Neither at the moment, just a 14-year-old homeschooler they're trying to ensnare with every trap in the book.
[14:04] <njd001> canonical ?
[14:04] <PatrickDickey> ni291187: when it's finished, reboot. We'll work through getting you the right drivers after that.
[14:04]  * njd001 likes this place its a lot like #help on efnet
[14:05] <ni291187> it is rebooting, :) you are too kind sir
[14:05] <PatrickDickey> njd001: http://www.ubuntu.com/classroom
[14:05] <sohail_> hi, anyone know why I cannot do this: apt-get install libssl-dev libssl-dev:i386 on 12.04?
[14:05] <sohail_> I need both because I need to build against 32 and 64-bit
[14:05] <PatrickDickey> sohail_: what error do you get when you try to install it?
[14:05] <ni291187> the desktop has been restored
[14:05] <SapphireDensetsu> Shall we agree to move the discussion then?  I want all our previous posts moved though, so I don't have headaches when copying the logs.
[14:06] <njd001> bazhang can i message you my error installing pastebin i dont want to exceed the flood cap its 6 lines ?
[14:06] <njd001> err my error is 6 lines anyway
[14:06] <PatrickDickey> Well, I'll be heading off to bed shortly, but I'm sure there are people in there who can help you with the IEP.
[14:06] <sohail_> PatrickDickey, http://paste.lisp.org/display/134608
[14:06] <bazhang> njd001, its pastebinit   not pastebin
[14:06] <njd001> hmmmm
[14:06]  * njd001 will try again... kicks AWS
[14:06] <bazhang> !info pastebinit
[14:07] <PatrickDickey> sohail_: are you running a 64-bit version of Ubuntu?
[14:07] <njd001> ah phooey
[14:07] <njd001> i see what i did
[14:07] <bazhang> njd001, does apt-cache search pastebinit   show it a s a result
[14:07] <sohail_> PatrickDickey, yes
[14:07] <sohail_> Linux ubuntu-lts-build 3.2.0-35-generic #55-Ubuntu SMP Wed Dec 5 17:42:16 UTC 2012 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[14:07]  * njd001 typed pastebininit not paste-bin-it
[14:08] <njd001> without the -'s
[14:08] <bazhang> !1984 | SapphireDensetsu the logs are here
[14:08] <PatrickDickey> You might want to ask in #ubuntu-app-devel then sohail_. they're the ones that would know what to do to get you set up.
[14:08] <sohail_> ok thanks
[14:08] <ni291187> Patrick, if you are busy, it can wait till later, you have done so much already. I appreciate everything you have done, I will repay you by sticking to and learning more about Ubuntu
[14:09] <njd001> bazhang i had pastebininit (as in init) I see now its more paste bin it  :)
[14:09] <njd001> that worked
[14:09] <njd001> bazhang Thanks!
[14:09] <bazhang> one too many init then njd001
[14:09]  * njd001 :)
[14:09] <PatrickDickey> ni291187: Not a problem. I'll say this. If everything is working, don't worry about the video drivers yet.
[14:09] <lcabreza1> how do i search specific email address using ldapsearch command ?
[14:09] <ni291187> ok
[14:09] <ni291187> thanks again, good night :)
[14:09] <bazhang> ni291187, you can contribute by helping answer questions here, on launchpad answers site and askubuntu.com
[14:10] <PatrickDickey> ni291187: Not a problem. have a good day.
[14:10] <njd001> indeed. perhaps that ! thingy can be updated to example pastebinit instead ? that or its because i just woke up and cannot read lol
[14:10] <njd001> anywho back to my shell
[14:10] <ni291187> baz, I'm too new to Dothan,lol
[14:10] <ni291187> errr.. to do that
[14:10] <ni291187> but I can later on
[14:10] <bazhang> ni291187, you never know, always worth a look at any rate
[14:10] <njd001> bazhang one last question about pastebin how long does it sit on the web before it expires
[14:11] <ni291187> I can try
[14:11] <bazhang> njd001, you can suggest an update to the factoids /msg ubottu usage
[14:12] <PatrickDickey> ni291187: I'll give you a hint. Google and the Ubuntu Documentation are your friends. That's how most of us (at least those of us who haven't learned a lot) find the information.
[14:12] <njd001> nice!
[14:14] <Jhonny> I
[14:15] <ni291187> Patrick, I'll give it a try. I'm installing kubuntu desktop ATM
[14:15] <XATRIX> Hi guys, how can i tell apt-get to remove *linux-image* (but exclude linux-image-3.6.8-pf-686) ?
[14:15] <XATRIX> Is there any --exclude ?
[14:17] <XATRIX> ?
[14:19] <yeats> XATRIX: no there's no
[14:19] <yeats> not
[14:24] <yeats> XATRIX: you could try something like sudo apt-get -s remove `dpkg --get-selections | grep linux-image | grep -v 'linux-image-3.6.8-pf-686' | awk '{print $1}'` (note that 'apt-get -s' means 'simulate' - you would need to remove that when you run it for real)
[14:26] <yeats> XATRIX: I recommend caution both with globbing (using *) and with scripts/chained bash commands like this since you could end up removing something important.  If there's not a need to remove the other kernels, I would let them remain.
[14:33] <fego> fellow ubuites, any idea how "HP Pavilion DV4-5009TX" fares in ubuntu?
[14:33] <BillyZane|2> is that what i am now?
[14:34] <fego> BillyZane|2: are you using the above model?
[14:34] <BillyZane|2> nope
[14:34] <BillyZane|2> gotta sleep!
[14:34] <BillyZane|2> l8r
[14:35] <yeats> fego: best way to know is to try it out with a live dvd/usb
[14:36] <fego> yeats: but i cannot try it out until i buy it. :)
[14:36] <ActionParsnip> Fego: give it a try, its free
[14:36] <ActionParsnip> Fego: ah
[14:37] <slappasaurus> XXX acounts anyone?
[14:37] <k1l> slappasaurus: see !guidelines please.
[14:38] <FlowRiser> k1l, he meant well
[14:39] <FlowRiser> !guidelines
[14:39] <xsumi5> Has anyone had the keyboard / gnome issues after pluggin in a headset?
[14:40] <ActionParsnip> Fego: spec seems pretty generic, you may need a bit of config  for audio
[14:40] <XATRIX> yeats: sounds if you're right
[14:40] <XATRIX> it works
[14:41] <xsumi5> I am sitting here, trying to listen to Internet music and Gnome or Compiz...not sure becomes unstable and I have to reboot
[14:41] <yeats> XATRIX: great - glad it helped
[14:41] <XATRIX> Yes, you did great !
[14:41] <ActionParsnip> Fego: seems to be a switchable video chip but bumblebee may support it
[14:41] <ActionParsnip> Fego: personally I avoid that whole optimus mess
[14:42] <fego> ActionParsnip: thanks, i was worried about the graphic chip. I hope nvidia does better in linux.
[14:42] <lixer> hi
[14:43] <ActionParsnip> Fego: switchable video can be a headache
[14:45] <XATRIX> yeats: Any idea how to install .deb package from the web/url ?
[14:45] <XATRIX> Is it ok ? ap-get install http://pf.natalenko.name/binaries/ubuntu/3.7.2/linux-image-3.7.2-pf_1_amd64.deb
[14:46] <ActionParsnip> Xatrix: you'll need more than just that one deb. Also, we cannot support the kernel here if you get issues
[14:47] <ActionParsnip> Xatrix: you will need to use wget to download the file first
[14:47] <XATRIX> ActionParsnip: yes, i know the risks... Just need to figure out how to install this .deb-s without downloading into the box
[14:47] <lixer> hi
[14:47] <XATRIX> As far as i know, i can install something like #yum install http://someurl.com/.../.../software.rpm
[14:48] <ActionParsnip> Xatrix: you'll need to download it
[14:48] <XATRIX> It will autodownload and install the sutff
[14:48] <XATRIX> Ok, i'll try to
[14:53] <XATRIX> How can i install downloaded .deb file with apt-get ?
[14:53] <joao> does anyone know the location of chrome files in ubuntu?
[14:53] <XATRIX> I just tried to : http://pf.natalenko.name/binaries/ubuntu/3.7.2/linux-headers-3.7.2-pf_1_i386.deb
[14:53] <yeats> XATRIX: 'sudo dpkg -i [debfile]'
[14:54] <XATRIX> root@HP-Compaq-nc4010:/tmp# apt-get install linux-image-3.7.2-pf_1_i386.deb - this doesn't work
[14:54] <XATRIX> yeats: but your way seems to be proper
[14:56] <dakotawulfy> hi
[14:57] <XATRIX> yeats: Can you explain me what the hell was it ? :) http://hastebin.com/feqoledife.avrasm
[14:58] <biopyte> hi. running 12.04 and gnome classic here. when i open the ubuntu menu in the gnome bar and click a folder in the "places" submenu, that starts the vlc player instead of the file browser. this never happened to me before. probably i accidentally changed a setting but i have no ides which one. any idea?
[15:00] <yeats> XATRIX: I'm not sure we can continue to support what you're doing, as it's not an Ubuntu kernel
[15:00] <yeats> XATRIX: I would recommend sticking to ubuntu-provided kernels
[15:00] <XATRIX> No no , i was just asking about was there any idea... ? no worries. i'm just testing tho
[15:01] <bazhang> XATRIX, try ##linux for support
[15:01] <XATRIX> Ok...thanks
[15:01] <yeats> XATRIX: errors like 'corrupted filesystem tarfile - corrupted package archive' are exactly why what you're doing isn't supported :-/
[15:02] <XATRIX> Yea
[15:02] <Sozzi> hiii
[15:02] <ActionParsnip> Xatrix: if you want the 3.7 kernel then install Raring
[15:02] <XATRIX> ActionParsnip: actually i'm gonna test a latest pf-kernel
[15:03] <XATRIX> With a few patches
[15:04] <dakotawulfy> biopyte u could try install alacarte see if u can fix it with that
[15:05] <XATRIX> alright , let's boot up this new one crap
[15:06] <iLogical> I am getting this error and it's stopping from installing some stuff: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1527654/
[15:06] <iLogical> can I fix it?
[15:06] <iLogical> stopping me*
[15:08] <jrib> iLogical: look at line 9
[15:08] <XATRIX> Sounds if if i'm still with you guys ;)
[15:09] <biopyte> dakota, "places" is not an item in alacarte.
[15:09] <iLogical> jrib, is it on /boot ?
[15:09] <jrib> iLogical: presumably, yes
[15:09] <dakotawulfy> ok sorry
[15:09] <dakotawulfy> check
[15:09] <iLogical> jrib, i use encryption but /boot isnt encrypted
[15:09] <jrib> iLogical: do you have it on a separate partition?
[15:09] <iLogical> can i resize it?
[15:10] <iLogical> system encryptiom
[15:10] <iLogical> n
[15:10] <jrib> iLogical: you probably just have a bunch of old kernels installed.  You should uninstall some
[15:10] <iLogical> how?
[15:10] <yeats> iLogical: can you pastebin the output of 'df -h'?
[15:11] <jrib> iLogical: dpkg -l 'linux-image*' | grep '^ii'     will show you which you have installed
[15:11] <iLogical> YeahRight, sure there you go http://paste.ubuntu.com/1527671/
[15:11] <dakotawulfy> biopyte check under /etc/xdg/menus/
[15:11] <biopyte> ok, one moment
[15:12] <dakotawulfy> for the gnome menu see if u can maybe fin info
[15:12] <yeats> iLogical: yeah /boot is nearly full
[15:12] <iLogical> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1527675/
[15:12] <dakotawulfy> biopyte might find something there to help u
[15:13] <iLogical> should I resize it:
[15:13] <iLogical> ?
[15:13] <iLogical> jrib, how do I choose any to delete?
[15:13] <iLogical> and do it
[15:13] <jrib> iLogical: what was the output?
[15:13] <iLogical> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1527675/
[15:13] <iLogical> jrib
[15:14] <jrib> iLogical: what kernel are you running now? (uname -r)
[15:14] <iLogical> jrib, 3.5.0-21-generic
[15:15] <jrib> iLogical: you can remove the linux-image-3.5.0-17-generic and linux-image-extra-3.5.0-17-generic packages then
[15:17] <iLogical> jrib, it worked, thanks!
[15:17] <biopyte> dakota, can't find anything related to "places". clicking a folder on the desktop runs the file browser as it should. maybe the problem is gone after reboot? thx, anyway
[15:18] <wrrezt> I have installed the git <IP_ADDRESS> package of Ubuntu 12.04. But I can't find the git-completion.bash file from https://github.com/git/git/tree/v<IP_ADDRESS>/contrib/completion
[15:18] <dakotawulfy> biopyte may be u could reinstall the gnome classic menu
[15:19] <biopyte> ok, thats another option
[15:19] <wrrezt> And "apt-file search git-completion.bash" doesn't find it.
[15:19] <dakotawulfy> biopyte might fix the links just ideal might work
[15:19] <biopyte> yep
[15:20] <lastleo85> guys, i have a i3 dell inspiron n1050    needs  to be installed ubuntu 64bit which iso???? please need the url of the torrent
[15:22] <lastleo85> website has listed ubuntu for amd 64 bit, confused:(
[15:22] <jrib> !amd64 | lastleo85
[15:22] <ActionParsnip> !git-completion-bash
[15:22] <jrib> lastleo85: amd64 is just the name for 64bit
[15:22] <ActionParsnip> !find git-completion-bash
[15:23] <lastleo85> great solved cheers
[15:23] <wrrezt> !find git-completion.bash
[15:23] <ActionParsnip> !torrent
[15:24] <ActionParsnip> !torrents
[15:24] <wrrezt> stgit contains /usr/share/stgit/completion/stgit-completion.bash and that is not git-completion.bash.
[15:24] <wrrezt> !find "^git-completion.bash$"
[15:25] <wrrezt> !help
[15:25] <ActionParsnip> Wrrezt: nice
[15:25] <wrrezt> ActionParsnip: What do you mean?
[15:26] <ActionParsnip> Wrrezt: using regex with ubottu
[15:26] <wrrezt> ActionParsnip: Bit it's not working.
[15:26] <wrrezt> But
[15:29] <wrrezt> So git-completion.bash is not part of Ubuntu 12.04?
[15:29] <acovrig> I have an ubuntu 12.10 64bit system installed on an 80G SATA, can I do a software raid 1 (mirror) without having to format my hdd?
[15:31] <yeats> wrrezt: see the links on this page to file a bug or contact the maintainers: http://packages.ubuntu.com/quantal/git
[15:31] <oal> I have an i7 CPU with Intel HD 4000, but it shows up as indirect rendering, What do I need to do to enable the GPU?
[15:32] <wrrezt> yeats: Thank you.
[15:33] <biopyte> dakota, i fixed the problem inspired by this info ... http://platonic.techfiz.info/2008/10/places-menu-broken-ubuntu-intrepid-upgrade/
[15:34] <dakotawulfy> biopyte cool so u got it working???
[15:34] <biopyte> for some reason i had a "vlc.desktop" entry in the inode/directory line
[15:34] <biopyte> yes, back to normal
[15:34] <wrrezt> yeats: I found it. The git-completion.bash is part of bash-completion and only called git: /etc/bash_completion.d/git.
[15:34] <biopyte> just deleted the "vlc.desktop" entry, that was it
[15:34] <yeats> wrrezt: ah
[15:35] <yeats> I wondered about that because git bash completion has always worked for me out of the box
[15:35] <wrrezt> yeats: Sorry, I am wrong. $ dpkg --search /etc/bash_completion.d/git
[15:35] <wrrezt> git: /etc/bash_completion.d/git
[15:35] <dakotawulfy> biopyte cool always good when u get it fixed
[15:35] <ActionParsnip> Acovrig: if you dd the drive to another drive, in theory it should work
[15:35] <escott> oal, do you have any other GPUs what version of ubuntu are you running?
[15:35] <oal> escott, no other GPUs. Ubuntu 12.10
[15:36] <biopyte> dakota, i didnt expect to work it out that fast ... i was lucky this time
[15:36] <oal> escott, I found this, might give it a shot: https://launchpad.net/~xorg-edgers/+archive/ppa
[15:36] <escott> oal, 12.10 should support sandys not sure why it would not work
[15:37] <threex5> could someone help me with an mpd-related problem? I can't get gmpc to connect. i just get error 13: 'operation already in progress'/
[15:38] <ActionParsnip> Oal: can you pastebin the output of: sudo lshw -C display;  lsb_release -a; uname -a
[15:38] <edgy> hi, how can I restart iptables in ubuntu? already tried: $ sudo service iptables restart
[15:38] <edgy> iptables: unrecognized service
[15:39] <oal> ActionParsnip, http://hastebin.com/vuxunicebo
[15:39] <escott> edgy, iptables is not a service that runs in the background. the tables are loaded at the beginning and just sit in kernel. check if they are loaded with sudo iptables -L
[15:39] <yeats> edgy: with iptables you just issue commands (usually via a script) and it will retain that state until you log out
[15:40] <yeats> s/log out/reboot/
[15:40] <edgy> escott, yeats: but it used to be a service that we can stop and start, are you saying this is not true, or things has changed?
[15:40] <yeats> edgy: it's not a service
[15:42] <escott> edgy, there might have been an init script in the past to load iptables rules from a file, but its never been a proper "service" because it has no daemon
[15:42] <oal> ActionParsnip, did you find anything useful there?
[15:42] <ActionParsnip> !bug 1066228 | oal
[15:43] <edgy> yeats, escott: ok, now iptables -L showed some default rules, I did iptables -F to flush them temporarily and want to apply the defaults back, whatever this is called how can I do it?
[15:44] <escott> edgy, can't say whee you got your rules from. many people get rules from ufw
[15:44] <escott> !ufw | edgy
[15:45] <harushimo> how do I get pygame for python3 in ubuntu
[15:45] <harushimo> I've been trying to get it
[15:45] <jimi_> how can I configure my laptop so that when I shut th elid, anything playing on HDMI out doesn't go blank?
[15:45] <edgy> escott: I didn't install ufw, so by default if i just install ubuntu desktop, iptables -L tables would be empty?
[15:45] <oal> ActionParsnip, I'm able to use my system, but it doesn't use the builtin GPU, so it's software rendering only (indirect)
[15:46] <escott> jimi_, (a) is your laptop designed for use with the lid closed. many laptops cannot be used in such a fashion
[15:46] <escott> edgy, i believe so
[15:46] <edgy> escott: ok, thanks, I will try to figure out where it's coming from then
[15:47] <ActionParsnip> Oal: tried: sudo modprobe i915; killall -u $USER
[15:47] <yeats> edgy: ufw is installed by default, I believe
[15:47] <sapro> hello. i need some help
[15:48] <ActionParsnip> Ask away sapro
[15:48] <oal> ActionParsnip, how long should that take to run?
[15:49] <escott> !info ufw | yeats, edgy i think its optional
[15:49] <escott> yeats, guess you are correct
[15:49] <ActionParsnip> Oal: instantaneous,  it will also kill Xorg, yoy
[15:49] <sapro> i;m trying to install ubuntu from usb and i get "no child node. aborting... Error: no configuration file found. No DEFAULT or UE configuration directive found!"
[15:49] <ActionParsnip> Your apps and lig you off
[15:49] <sapro> any tips?
[15:49] <oal> All right, let me try. brb
[15:49] <ActionParsnip> Sapro: did you MD5 test the ISO you downloaded?
[15:50] <edgy> escott: $ apt-cache show ufw |grep Task
[15:50] <edgy> Task: standard, kubuntu-active
[15:50] <edgy> escott: what standard here implies then?
[15:50] <sapro> i downloaded 5 times the iso.
[15:50] <sapro> from different sources.
[15:51] <ActionParsnip> Sapro: doesn't matter, you could (statistically) download a million and never get a good one
[15:51] <escott> edgy, it would be installed by default with ubuntu-desktop. perhaps it isn't activated b/c ive seen empty rules before
[15:51] <ActionParsnip> !md5 | Sapro
[15:51] <edgy> escott: for me it's not installed, though ubuntu-desktop is installed
[15:52] <sapro> i will try.
[15:52] <sapro> i'm downloading now another iso and i'll check.
[15:53] <sapro> thank you for the info.
[15:54] <LiquidDemocracy> I want to switch from Ubuntu to Kubuntu. All my emails are in Evolution, though. How can I migrate them?
[15:54] <iceroot> how to stream music from PulseAudio to PulseAudio with 12.04 as client? padevchooser is not available anymore for newer releases
[15:55] <iceroot> LiquidDemocracy: you can still use evolution on kubuntu
[15:56] <LiquidDemocracy> But evolution is a Gnome GUI application.
[15:56] <iceroot> LiquidDemocracy: and?
[15:56] <LiquidDemocracy> I want a clean KDE.
[15:56] <LiquidDemocracy> And not copy all the required libraries over.
[15:56] <boss1_> fffff
[15:56] <iceroot> LiquidDemocracy: i dont think you want something aewfull like kontakt/kmail
[15:57] <iceroot> LiquidDemocracy: but when you are using imap for example you dont have to migrate, just sync the mails with the new client
[15:58] <LiquidDemocracy> No they don't exist on the server anymore.
[15:58] <solidoodlesuppor> Here's a weird one: Ubuntu loads into my VM without loading the dock. Just the desktop background, nothing else
[16:00] <iceroot> solidoodlesuppor: sounds like "3d support is missing"
[16:00] <yeats> solidoodlesuppor: take a look at your VM's graphics/display settings and make sure they are maxxed out
[16:00] <North1> Hello all.  I am having problem working with the dd command...
[16:00] <North1> am trying to write an .img file to my SD card and all I get is
[16:00] <North1> dd: unrecognised operand '/dev/sdb'
[16:01] <yeats> North1: can you pastebin the full command you're using?
[16:01] <North1> sure.
[16:01] <escott> North1, dd if=/path/to/file.img of=/dev/sdb
[16:02] <jonnybal> How can I force a guest session to close? I just switched users to guest and I now have a black screen with a mouse Pinter and nothing else
[16:02] <acovrig> ActionParsnip: I have 3(ish) partitions, 1=boot, 2=extended, 5=lvm, would I dd if=/dev/sda1 >1.dd; dd if=/dev/sda2 >2.dd then setup raid, partition table, dd if=1.dd >/dev/sda1; dd if=2.dd >/dev/sda2 ?
[16:02] <ActionParsnip> Jonnybal: in a tty, run:     sudo killall -u guest
[16:03] <ubuntuaddicted> how do I remove a steam game?
[16:03] <North1> sudo dd bs=1M if= ~/2012-12-16-wheezy-raspbian.img of= /dev/sdb
[16:03] <bekks> Without the " "
[16:03] <North1> escott I gave the full path
[16:03] <escott> acovrig, don't use redirection with dd
[16:03] <jonnybal> I don't want to force a reboot as I think a long file operation may still be going on
[16:03] <escott> North1, no spaces
[16:04] <North1> sorry ? No spaces between ?
[16:04] <ActionParsnip> Acovrig: the second drive will be /dev/sdb    sda2 is the secind paetition in the first drive
[16:04] <acovrig> escott: is the general idea correct? (I was however planning on dd if=dev | pv -pterbs <size>M >file)
[16:04] <escott> North1, between of= and the argument same for if=
[16:05] <North1> okay lemme try.
[16:05] <North1> I will get back to u with the result
[16:05] <escott> acovrig, not sure what you are trying to do. just the dd if=something > something.else is silly
[16:05] <boss1> j
[16:05] <North1> Yes Escott... its working now... Silly me not to check
[16:06] <ActionParsnip> Solidoodlesuppor: not really,  it needs 3D acceleration.  If its not around then it won't load. If the system is a VM then I recommend you use XFCE or LXDE to give a more responsive OS
[16:06] <ubuntuaddicted> does anyone know how to uninstall a game from steam client?
[16:06] <eristikophiles> anyone ever have problems with 'too many files open'? i can't seem to find a cause for it / what program might be doing it. i can't run anything to check stuff like with ps to see what's running, and i got more ram put in the box but it hasn't solved it (though it does run faster).
[16:06] <atlef> !grub > atlef
[16:07] <acovrig> escott: thats the only way I know how to do it (running through pv)
[16:07] <jonnybal> Actionparsnip: I can't get to a terminal as I just have a black screen
[16:07] <ActionParsnip> Eristikophiles: try     lsof    to see the open files
[16:07] <eristikophiles> ulimit is unlimited and file max is at like 333k-something
[16:07] <eristikophiles> i can't run anything
[16:07] <escott> acovrig, pipe is sensible. redirection is silly
[16:07] <ActionParsnip> Jonnybal:   so pressing:  ctrl + alt + f1     doesn't get a terminal?
[16:07] <eristikophiles> if i reboot i can, for awhile, but then it comes back. but i can't cause it either. no idea what's doing it
[16:08] <nicofs> I need a little help... I just put two files onto my thumb drive on my pc - but on my netbook they are not there. if i reinsert the drive into the pc, they are there again... this happend with fat32 and ext4... why?
[16:08] <eristikophiles> so i can't figure out how to find the problem, since it only appears when i can't run any apps
[16:08] <acovrig> escott: dd if=/dev/sda1 | pv -pterbs 81920M >2.dd (as far as I know, pv doesn't have an 'of' equivalent
[16:09] <ActionParsnip> Eristikophiles: before you oull it out, do you safely remove it, then pulk it out?
[16:09] <amr_> when you feel that you need to remove your ubuntu totally and reinstall it FRESH?
[16:09] <dakotawulfy>  nicofs use the command line
[16:09] <bekks> ActionParsnip: No. DONT use | or > with dd.
[16:09] <ActionParsnip> Jonnybal: does the keypress nit work?
[16:09] <janeyre> hi everyone
[16:09] <dakotawulfy> if u need them right now
[16:09] <ActionParsnip> Bekks: wrong target?
[16:09] <escott> eristikophiles, you might want to enable a limit per process see if you can cause whatever process (assuming its a single process) to die
[16:10] <dakotawulfy>  nicofs i have seen that problem
[16:10] <bekks> acovrig: dd bs=16M if=/dev/sda1 of=/your/file1.dd
[16:10] <nicofs> dakotawulfy, use cli to do what exactly? basic things like "copy" and eject? this must work via gui on this os...
[16:11] <eristikophiles> should i limit # of files open, or threads? or what?
[16:11] <nicofs> dakotawulfy, ls on the device lists the missing files - nevertheless my file manager should show them... something went wrong somewhere. repeatedly...
[16:12] <eristikophiles> i mean, it should just force things to go slower to wait for their turn at opening files if i do that, right?
[16:12] <dakotawulfy>  nicofs: well  open up terminal in that dir   make sure they are there
[16:12] <escott> acovrig, for these kinds of full reads from a device you probably dont even need to use dd. something like pv -options </dev/sda1  >sda1.img should be fine
[16:12] <dakotawulfy>  and copy from that
[16:12] <acovrig> bekks: I know that, but pv gives a progress bar, and I am kinda fond of that
[16:12] <dakotawulfy>  is see what i can find give me a sec
[16:12] <bekks> acovrig: Then use pv only ...
[16:12] <ActionParsnip> Eristikophiles: before you pull the USB storage our, do you use the safely remove feature in your IS beforehand?
[16:12] <bekks> Or mbuffer.
[16:12] <eristikophiles> ActionParsnip- there's no usb storage involved
[16:12] <eristikophiles> i haven't added or removed any
[16:13] <nicofs> dakotawulfy, i did not install ubuntu to do everything via cli - especially not those trivial things... I want to find and solve the issue... and if a simple process like copy does not work, it is something worth investigating...
[16:14] <dakotawulfy> nicofs ok file are not dont have a . in front of them right ???
[16:15] <nicofs> dakotawulfy, they are not hidden...
[16:15] <dakotawulfy> ok
[16:15] <nicofs> dakotawulfy, i copied them via file manager and ejected the volume...
[16:15] <dakotawulfy>  yes  i have had that happen
[16:16] <ActionParsnip> Nicofs: before you pull the USB out, do you use the safe remove feature
[16:16] <ActionParsnip> Eristikophiles: sorry, wrong target
[16:16] <nicofs> ActionParsnip, I am only offered the "eject" option...
[16:16] <nicofs> but I do use that
[16:17] <ActionParsnip> Nicofs: should be ok. Does the partition pass fsck?
[16:17] <eristikophiles> oh i see nicofs talking about that now :)
[16:17] <jonnybal> Actionparsnip: I get cannot find user guest
[16:17] <nicofs> ActionParsnip, on it...
[16:17] <ActionParsnip> Johhnybal: but the key combo gave a terminal....
[16:17] <jonnybal> Yes
[16:18] <jonnybal> Excuse my spelling I'm typing on a phone
[16:19] <nicofs> ActionParsnip, "clean"
[16:19] <ActionParsnip> Jonnybal: if you run:   ps -ef | grep -i guest     do you see processes
[16:19] <Pinkamena_D> If i wanted to make a webpage on my server that showed the hard drive space remaining, how hard would that be to do?
[16:20] <ActionParsnip> Nicofs: if you mount the filesystem,  then run:  sync    then unmount/eject.  Is it oj?
[16:22] <dakotawulfy> nicofs not saying this is happing but some time if u close down the file manager and reopen it it might see them u could try that some time if u have it open before it stuck in does not read it the new files  have seen that
[16:23] <BluesKaj> !u
[16:23] <nicofs> ActionParsnip, this did the trick - but why?
[16:24] <bekks> ActionParsnip: Sorry for the late answer: Using a redirection may result in data corruption when something else is writing to the same stream.
[16:24] <ActionParsnip> Nicofs: the copy wasn't synched fully. So what you saw on the file system was the cache
[16:24] <_helios_> ActionParsnip, I have a desktop with xubuntu but it only has ethernet no wireless.   I bought a USB adapter but waiting for it in the mail.  Do you know a way I can give internet from my laptop I'm using now to it?
[16:24] <ActionParsnip> Bekks: I wasn't advising any dd stuff though....
[16:25] <nicofs> ActionParsnip, so the issue is with the source pc that did not "finish" copying?
[16:25] <jonnybal> Actionparsnip: 120 21220 21167 0 14:49 ? 00:00:00 su guest-MTE7jY -c dpms force on
[16:25] <jonnybal> That's the first line. The second line relates to grep
[16:25] <ActionParsnip> Nicofs: it had copied tobthe cache, just not transfered to the actual storage
[16:25] <bekks> ActionParsnip: I may have mistabbed, too :)
[16:26] <nicofs> ActionParsnip, how do I prevent that from happening in the future? oO
[16:26] <ActionParsnip> Nicofs: it helps make floppy access faster too as you are working on the cache, not the floppy itself.  Same with slow USB
[16:27] <jonnybal> And I'm sorry for spamming but this irc app on my phone closes the connection if I don't say anything for a while
[16:27] <ActionParsnip> Nicofs: try copying a new file
[16:28] <archerr> hi
[16:28] <sapro> hello again.
[16:28] <ActionParsnip> Jonnybal: killall -u guest-MTE7jY
[16:28] <kriestof> Hi, i want to install Win 7 on the PC, where I have currently installed Ubuntu. I have several partitions on the PC and there is one ready for Win 7, but he tells me he can't install system there.
[16:29] <nicofs> ActionParsnip, that's more of a workaround than a solution... but it'll do...
[16:29] <yashi> a
[16:29] <jonnybal> Please ignore this message. It's just so my irc app doesn't time out and close the connection. Sorry for the spam
[16:29] <sapro> ActionParsnip: i downloaded a new iso. i've used Universal-USB-Installer-<IP_ADDRESS> to put the iso on usb. and again that error.
[16:30] <sapro> i've checked md5 sum
[16:30] <ActionParsnip> Nicofs: its showing how long I've used the OS, that's how it used to be. Not sure why its not doing it for you
[16:30] <atlef> !WindowsDualBoot
[16:30] <jonnybal> Actionparsnip: cannot find user guest
[16:30] <ActionParsnip> Sapro: have you tested the RAM using the memtest on tge live usb?
[16:30] <atlef> kriestof, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBoot
[16:30] <escott> kriestof, win wont install to extended partitions
[16:31] <kriestof> damn
[16:31] <ActionParsnip> Jonnybal: run:   who     to see the logged in users
[16:31] <eristikophiles> so, i guess what i need to do is try out each setting on its own, then if those fail, combinations. each time rebooting and waiting to see if the bug comes back, and if so, rebooting and altering settings again
[16:32] <eristikophiles> but, i would appreciate a short list of which settings might apply.. like, ulimit, file-max, and then threads?
[16:32] <eristikophiles> where do you alter the threads by process limit?
[16:32] <Jonny1> ActionParsnip: Thanks. I put a space in that shouldnt have been there.   I did what you said and it shut down the guest session returning me to the login screen. I am now successfully back in my regular user account. I might disable the guest session if it's going to cause problems like that. That was scary
[16:32] <sapro> ActionParsnip: no.
[16:33] <sapro> do you think its the usb pen?
[16:33] <ActionParsnip> Sapro: the ram, not the usb storage
[16:34] <kriestof> escott: so I guess I have to modify my current extended partition and create another primary partiotion?
[16:34] <eristikophiles> huh. i found a post on the web about reconfiguring nautilus to not preview media files, that was one person's version of this bug a while ago. krusader just crashed
[16:34] <eristikophiles> i was going to alter prefs see if that was there too
[16:35] <sapro> i'll try memtest86+ 4.20
[16:35] <sapro> brb
[16:36] <eristikophiles> also like, this box is running its fan crazy like it's doing something background
[16:36] <eristikophiles> it might be virus scan or something too
[16:37] <ActionParsnip> Eristikophiles: if your gpu is not used, your cpu will perform the 3D rendering
[16:38] <eristikophiles> there's no 3d right now. i mean, i don't use 3d in my gui setup
[16:38] <eristikophiles> or anything moving
[16:38] <ActionParsnip> Eristikophiles: I bet if you use xfce or lxde, it will slow down a lit
[16:38] <eristikophiles> it just sits
[16:38] <eristikophiles> i'm running kde and it's made to look not-so-shiny
[16:39] <solidoodlesuppor> ActionParsnip: So, even with 3D Acceleration it wont load. Is there a way to get a terminal up from this state so I can grab xfce?
[16:39] <eristikophiles> oh that was for you.
[16:39] <eristikophiles> makes more sense now
[16:39] <ActionParsnip> Eristikophiles: so if you run: ps -ef | grep compiz | grep -v grep       nothing is output?
[16:39] <eristikophiles> just the same error. "too many files open"
[16:39] <eristikophiles> pipe failed
[16:40] <atlef> eristikophiles, not that i know exactly what your problem is, but is this a laptop?
[16:40] <eristikophiles> even when doing 1 command with no pipes
[16:40] <eristikophiles> no it's an old refurb desktop
[16:40] <eristikophiles> hp compaq business box once
[16:40] <atlef> oh, ok
[16:40] <ActionParsnip> Solidoodlesuppor: press ctrl+alt+f1 and insrall rhe xfce4 psckage there
[16:40] <eristikophiles> i basically can't run anything after a while. random period after starting, it begins to refuse to run anything else not running. some programs just crash when used
[16:40] <julian-delphiki> hm, too many files open
[16:41] <eristikophiles> console crashed actually. i can't even type in useless commands anymore
[16:41] <julian-delphiki> man, it'd be nice if we could get a ps aux | wc -l
[16:41] <eristikophiles> i can't use ctrl-alt-f# consoles either
[16:41] <julian-delphiki> sounds like something that is forking repeatedly and opening files.
[16:42] <ActionParsnip> Eristikophiles: if you make a new user in root recovery mode, make a new user there,  is the OS ok there as the new user?
[16:42] <eristikophiles> i tried logging in, it just got to where it checks mail, said "system restart required"
[16:42] <julian-delphiki> i suppose, if you rebooted, you could change the nofiles setting in /etc/security/limits.conf
[16:42] <Lesnix> hi guys
[16:42] <julian-delphiki> hi lelamal
[16:42] <Lesnix> are there someone from US ?
[16:42] <julian-delphiki> Lesnix
[16:42] <eristikophiles> yeah i'm just trying to figure out which thing/s to change when i do reboot
[16:42] <eristikophiles> or i can just reboot and maybe it'll go away
[16:42] <eristikophiles> Lesnix- yes
[16:42] <ActionParsnip> Lesnix: this is support, location is moot
[16:43] <eristikophiles> true. offtopic is for that
[16:43] <atlef> eristikophiles, has anything like other live cds worked with it
[16:43] <doctorly> is there a nice python shell/interpreter for tty?
[16:43] <Lesnix> ok, let's forget about US. I have a generic question on ubuntu )
[16:43] <ActionParsnip> Doctoly: yes, python
[16:43] <eristikophiles> i haven't tried that. it seems like something i'll have to fix sooner or later, yet can only diagnose when it's happening. so then, can't really diagnose it at all
[16:43] <ActionParsnip> Lesnix: then ask away
[16:44] <Lesnix> how to make ubuntu remember my key-binding "Super+L" ?
[16:44] <doctorly> python only lets you enter like one like at a time and it doesnt save your work
[16:44] <ActionParsnip> !shortcut
[16:44] <Lesnix> now I have assigned this for "Lock the screen" action, but ubuntu forget it eery time after reboot
[16:44] <eristik> ok well, i'll be here now
[16:44] <eristik> going to reboot that box
[16:44] <atlef> eristikophiles, if other distro's works, then you can rule some things out
[16:44] <eristik> wow mirc is so drab ;p
[16:45] <eristik> true
[16:45] <Lesnix> ubottu, i've done this via "Keyboard Shortcuts" already.
[16:45] <Lesnix> =)
[16:45] <Lesnix> ok, got it
[16:45] <ActionParsnip> Doctorly: its a n interpreter,  which you asked for
[16:46] <doctorly> ActionPasrsnip: I asked for a shell/interpreter
[16:46] <doctorly> ActionPasrsnip: Thanks though
[16:46] <eristik> there we go. soon i'll be able to actually run commands! (amazing. i thought that was a given, since the late 90s)
[16:46] <ActionParsnip> Doctoly: you can edit a python script in nano or vi, then run the script using python
[16:46] <eristik> before anything i need to check the virus scanner. it might just be that the scanner is going nuts. that would account for the fan
[16:47] <eristik> (other than the box just being old)
[16:47] <ActionParsnip> Doctoly: python is the interpreter
[16:47] <ActionParsnip> Doctoly: do you mean an IDE?
[16:48] <eristik> also, is there a way to turn off the darkstat daemon? can't remember where the files were / if i should just manually remove them
[16:48] <ActionParsnip> Doctoly: an IDE is not an interpreter,  python is still doing the work, the IDE (cli or gui) just helps write code
[16:48] <doctorly> ActionPasrsnip: I know I can, that is just not what Im looking for. Like I said, it doesnt have the functionality that I want. I mean a shell/interpreter. A shell that works with the interpreter. I am convinced you dont actually know anything on the subject and just googled, which I had already done, and doesnt help.
[16:48] <julian-delphiki> eristik... virus scanner?
[16:49] <eristik> and, when booting i got a "last mount time for superblock is in the future" message on several partitions.. never seen that before
[16:49] <eristik> julian-delphiki yeah clamav
[16:49] <eristik> just in case
[16:49] <julian-delphiki> doctorly: i assure you that ActionParsnip does know what they're talking about -- your question is unclear.
[16:49] <escott> kriestof, yeah
[16:50] <dylan_> is anyone else having problems with unmounting?
[16:50] <doctorly> how is asking for a shell unclear? it is the most common way of interacting with python
[16:50] <ActionParsnip> Doctoly: the shell can be told to use any interpreter,  the default is badh, but you can tell it to use python, perl or whatever you want
[16:50] <ActionParsnip> Docr
[16:50] <eristik> haha "date of your last known threat: 04 Nov 2011"
[16:50] <julian-delphiki> doctorly: when you type just "python" on the command line it gives you a python shell, and interpreter. If you want to save your work you need to use some form of a text editor.
[16:50] <escott> ActionParsnip, didn't know you were so opinionated about bash :-P
[16:50] <ActionParsnip> Doctoly: I dont use Google.  Its poor imho
[16:50] <eristik> it just scanned yesterday it says. so, not that then. i didn't have the bug yesterday
[16:51] <julian-delphiki> dylan_: no. What problem are you having
[16:51] <doctorly> it is only an interpreter not a shell
[16:51] <doctorly> and you cant tell a shell to work with anything..
[16:51] <dylan_> cant unmount needs root access
[16:51] <doctorly> Im sorry for asking here, I am going to find a python chat or board instead
[16:51] <escott> dylan_, ok
[16:51] <julian-delphiki> dylan_: yes, you need to use sudo.
[16:51] <jrib> doctorly: python, ipython, bpython... try them and use what you like...
[16:52] <doctorly> what I am asking for is very clear though haha
[16:52] <julian-delphiki> doctorly: what exactly are you wanting to do with this python shell.
[16:52] <dylan_> how?
[16:52] <ActionParsnip> Doctoly: the shell is flexible, so in saying "interpreter" you simply need to tell the shell to exoect python . Why do you think the top line of shell scriots is #!/bin/bash
[16:52] <julian-delphiki> dylan_: sudo unmount path.
[16:52] <doctorly> thanks for trying though!
[16:52] <julian-delphiki> wow
[16:52] <ActionParsnip> Doctoly: it tells the shell to use /bin/bash to interpret the code. Python has a different head lune
[16:53] <ActionParsnip> Line
[16:53] <julian-delphiki> he left, ActionParsnip
[16:53] <ActionParsnip> Julian-delphiki: thanks
[16:54] <dylan_> thanks
[17:01] <v1c3> hello, i need ubuntu-server and windows-server on ONE mashine mostly for webservices. What's the ebst way to do that? One OS in a VM? Both in VMs? KVM, Qemu, Xen, vmware, virtualBox?
[17:02] <BrainPaid> ubottu: info
[17:03] <iceroot> i have an entry in /etc/fstab which is mounting fine but needs more then 60seconds. is there a way to debug why it is needing so long? no usefull output on boot or when using mount -a
[17:03] <escott> iceroot, what kind of filesystem
[17:03] <iceroot> escott: ext4
[17:04] <iceroot> UUID=842ab687-8d18-4b62-85c5-42016a095794 /home/michael/storage/               ext4    errors=remount-ro 0       1
[17:04] <shaka_> Can someone give me the jist on (without copy/pasting from Wikipedia, I've already read that) what AppArmor does?
[17:05] <iceroot> shaka_: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AppArmor
[17:05] <j2daosh> hey all. trying to do an upgrade of some packages, and it keeps getting stuck on this one. :flashplugin-installer: downloading http://archive.canonical.com/pool/partner/a/adobe-flashplugin/adobe-flashplugin_<IP_ADDRESS>1.orig.tar.gz. I kill that process and it continues on happy. but it's annoying to have this go "out to lunch" every time i try to update
[17:05] <ActionParsnip> V1c3: what is the role of both systems?
[17:05] <Guest32680> any way to make Ubuntu remember my different brightness settings when I'm plugged in and when I'm plugged out?
[17:06] <v1c3> ActionParsnip webserver and webservice
[17:06] <ActionParsnip> V1c3: how many connections do you expect the web server to get?
[17:06] <j2daosh> is this plugin something i can RDP into the system and run from firefox itsself?
[17:07] <shaka_> iceroot: Heh. Doesn't explain what "confines individual programs to a set of listed files and posix 1003.1e draft capabilities" means :D
[17:07] <iceroot> shaka_: then ask a detailed question :)
[17:08] <shaka_> What "confines individual programs to a set of listed files and posix 1003.1e draft capabilities" mean?
[17:08] <escott> shaka_, its an LSM. you profile an application (like apache) and if it starts messing with something it shouldn't (like trying to write to /etc or execute /bin/bash) you can stop it
[17:08] <iceroot> shaka_: http://wiki.apparmor.net/index.php/Main_Page
[17:08] <v1c3> ActionParsnip: not many. the server only qould be used for private purpose.
[17:08] <iceroot> shaka_: apparmor is creating security profiles for specific applications, so that they are only allowed to know specific things
[17:09] <eristik> ok so here are some numbers i get reported back: {cat /proc/sys/kernel/threads-max, cat /proc/sys/fs/file-max, ulimit} = {52065, 333187, unlimited}
[17:09] <iceroot> shaka_: and the common programs like firefox and so on, for that programs there are already configured profiles
[17:09] <modifier> IGMP should be enabled in router configuration ? and which option to choose - IGMP Standard Mode or Blocking Mode ??
[17:10] <eristik> also i should note i use zsh and i can't access the 'getrlimit' command. not sure if it's only for bash
[17:11] <shaka_> Do you use it? Like, is it a necessity? I've been using different GNU/Linux distros for almost ten years, including various *buntus and I've never used it.
[17:12] <escott> shaka_, it is a security tool
[17:12] <eristik> also ulimit -s = 8192
[17:12] <escott> shaka_, is it necessary to login as a non-root user? no the system would still work even if you didn't. is it a good idea? yes
[17:14] <eristik> well, i'm going to have a smoke, try to reconsider this stuff. i'm not running apps on the other box, to see if it's one of the bigger apps specifically doing this
[17:14] <shaka_> I understand that much. It's just... I feel like I've opened my self up to vulnerabilities just by running Ubuntu.
[17:14] <crystaltvcoby> playing around with ubuntu 12.04 on virtualbox to verify better than redhat.. liking.. but no middle mouse button scrolling in Firefox.. done the about:config changes any ideas?
[17:14] <NuSuey> anything in ubuntu that could record my USB video device? (webcam) ..something other than cheese?
[17:14] <shaka_> Want to lock it down.
[17:14] <erciccio> ciao
[17:15] <erciccio> list
[17:15] <SolarisBoy> NuSuey: sure - ffmpeg vlc and many other options
[17:15] <modifier> should IGMP be enabled in router configuration ? and which option to choose - IGMP Standard Mode or Blocking Mode ??
[17:15] <escott> shaka_, then it would sound like you do want apparmor, and that you probably want to strengthen its config (i think by default it warns rather than kills the application)
[17:15] <NuSuey> SolarisBoy: i meant something with a gui :P
[17:15] <frankayama> hello every body
[17:15] <pcomputo> hie
[17:15] <frankayama> can i find a hacker here
[17:15] <modifier> bekks: ??
[17:16] <SolarisBoy> modifier: thats probaby off topic
[17:16] <ActionParsnip> Frankayama: try #backtrack-linux
[17:16] <ActionParsnip> Nusuey: what are you after?
[17:16] <modifier> SolarisBoy: i know....but just a auestion....if not here then where to ask ?
[17:16] <BRKsays> REGISTER BJrk316//61<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[17:16] <SolarisBoy> modifier: most likely networking - it sounds like you should understand why your even doing that first -
[17:17] <NuSuey> ActionParsnip: well something to record my webcam video in linux (so I dont have to boot into my mac os/windows) :o)
[17:17] <xsumi5> Anyone have a second
[17:17] <modifier> SolarisBoy: i was configuring router and there is that option ? whats the networking channel name ?
[17:17] <SolarisBoy> NuSuey: vlc isn't an option for you?
[17:18]  * crystaltvcoby wants to enable middle mouse button scrolling in Firefox on ubuntu 12.04 and all current steps have failed.. any ideas?
[17:18] <ActionParsnip> Nusuey: recordmydesktop or kazam
[17:18] <CaptainKnots> is there an easy way in addition to installing ia32-libs to install a 386 arch version of every package installed on an ubuntu system if one exists?
[17:18] <sapro> ActionParsnip: i've check my ram. i don't have any errors.
[17:18] <SolarisBoy> modifier: #networking modifier leave it disabled if you have no idea is a good practice - it's for multicasting which is not required
[17:18] <NuSuey> ActionParsnip: isn't recordmydesktop and kazam for recording your desktop?
[17:18] <escott> !multiarch | CaptainKnots
[17:18] <xsumi5> I can recreate this issue every time
[17:18] <shaka_> xsumi: I'm not a regular, but you don't have to ask to ask :D
[17:18] <SolarisBoy> you can record your desktop with ffmpeg as well too with the x11grab driver
[17:18] <NuSuey> ActionParsnip: how could I record the usb video device from there?
[17:18] <escott> CaptainKnots, that really needs a factoid "apt-get install package:i386
[17:18] <SolarisBoy> ffmpeg does everything in the world =)
[17:18] <ActionParsnip> Nusuey: or cheese, mplayer, vlc
[17:19] <SolarisBoy> avconv
[17:19] <NuSuey> i'm NOT after recording my desktop
[17:19] <SolarisBoy> you can do webcam or desktop NuSuey with all those
[17:19] <CaptainKnots> escott: I suppose I could grab a package list and try to append :i386 to each and see what installs
[17:19] <xsumi5> When I plug in a set of headphones, ubuntu 12.10 64 bit, the gnome desktop, keyboard, and mouse start to perform poorly
[17:19] <NuSuey> ActionParsnip: and cheese has no options in it..
[17:19] <NuSuey> SolarisBoy: you sure? gotta try out then
[17:19] <ActionParsnip> Sapro: what is the message at boot?
[17:19] <SolarisBoy> ffmpeg -f video4linux2 -i /dev/video0 /tmp/file.mp4 is a simple way to do it
[17:20] <ActionParsnip> Nusuey: gnome-mplayer
[17:20] <SolarisBoy> vlc similar or you can do it n the gui
[17:20] <sapro> no child node. aborting. error no configuration file found . no default or ui configuration directive found!
[17:20] <BRKsays> any way to make ubuntu remember different brightness settings when I'm plugged in & when I' plugged out?
[17:20] <SolarisBoy> ffmpeg -f x11grab -r 25 -s 1920x1080 -i :0.0 -vcodec huffyuv -sameq screencast.avi <- screencast (not from webcam)
[17:20] <NuSuey> ActionParsnip, SolarisBoy thought something with some gui settings ..and stuff :P
[17:20] <SolarisBoy> NuSuey: vlc like he said then
[17:20] <day> i reinstalled ubuntu configured my dual monitors from mirroring to extended desktop.. and only displayed the menu logos on one screen..after installing the graphic drivers my main screen which displays the desktop panels doesnt work. any idea how i can fix that easily?
[17:21] <ActionParsnip> Xsumi5: does the system have a make and model?
[17:21] <sapro> and if i type anything it says could not find kernel image: ..
[17:21] <SolarisBoy> or gnome-mplayer like the other guy mentioned
[17:21] <ActionParsnip> Nusuey: gnome-mplayer is a gui .....
[17:22] <ActionParsnip> Nusuey: or try guvcview
[17:23] <ActionParsnip> Nusuey: some nice commands here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam
[17:23] <nep1x> hi, which command let me know which driver is set up to my graphic card?
[17:23] <nep1x> thanks
[17:23] <SolarisBoy> nep1x: lspci -v and look for your graphics card in the output - the driver should be mentioned in use there is one way
[17:24] <SolarisBoy> probably faster ways also
[17:24] <ActionParsnip> Nusuey: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/02/webcam-linux
[17:24] <ActionParsnip> Nep1x: sudo lshw -C display | grep driver
[17:24]  * crystaltvcoby wants to enable middle mouse button scrolling in Firefox on ubuntu 12.04 and all current steps have failed.. any ideas?
[17:25] <_helios_> ActionParsnip, I have a desktop with xubuntu but it only has ethernet no wireless.   I bought a USB adapter but waiting for it in the mail.  Do you know a way I can share internet from my laptop to it?
[17:25] <ActionParsnip> Crystaltvciby: does it work in other apps
[17:25] <escott> crystaltvcoby, are you using curson integration?
[17:25] <crystaltvcoby> ActionParsnip: have not tried
[17:26] <ActionParsnip> !ics | _helios_
[17:26] <crystaltvcoby> escott: no
[17:26] <nep1x> thanks buddies
[17:26] <ActionParsnip> Crystaltvcoby: don't you think you should,  it may not be just a Firefox issue
[17:27] <qwiksilver711> hello
[17:27] <crystaltvcoby> ActionParsnip: just tried in new libre text doc.. not working
[17:27] <jay> Hi aynone know python?
[17:27] <eristikophiles> ok well, i'm going to first see if just the rebooting fixed things. sometimes it can. also i needed a reboot for updates
[17:27] <jay> or a channel for python
[17:27] <eristikophiles> jay- there are excellent tutorials on the web
[17:28] <jay> this is really specific
[17:28] <eristikophiles> try ##python or #python
[17:28] <hplc> i stumbled upon an odd question when working on my  ubuntu 12.04 desktop, my NIC is working perfectly, but whats my device for eth0? eth0
[17:28] <NuSuey> ActionParsnip: guvcvideo is something I was looking for. thats exactly it ;)
[17:28] <qwiksilver711> trying to kill x server to install nvidia drivers using command sudo stop lightdm and it keeps going blackscreen on me
[17:28] <eristikophiles> eth0 is usually your NIC
[17:28] <eristikophiles> non-wireless
[17:28] <eristikophiles> wireless cards show as something else usually. can't remember
[17:29] <crystaltvcoby> wlan maybe?
[17:29] <ActionParsnip> Nusuey: sweet, the webcam how to had commands which would have worked without having to ask :)
[17:29] <hplc> its an wired, onboard sis900
[17:29] <CommunistJamie> How do you remove the games?
[17:30] <hplc> but i cant figure what its /dev/ is
[17:30] <eristikophiles> yeah wlan0
[17:30] <ActionParsnip> Qwiksilver711: use root recovery mode. Why not use the packaged driver?
[17:30] <CommunistJamie> How do you remove the games directory?
[17:30] <hplc> tried dmesg and lsmod in vain
[17:30] <NuSuey> ActionParsnip: wait what? :) ah.. nixie has a review of the software. well, why didn't I checked her first >.<
[17:30] <eristikophiles> CommunistJamie- use a package manager
[17:30] <Grievre> hplc: network controllers don't show up under /dev
[17:30] <eristikophiles> apt-get in cli, or synaptic
[17:30] <eristikophiles> or muon in kde
[17:30] <ActionParsnip> CommunistJamie: uninstall the games
[17:31] <hplc> Grievre, so whats my best bet in the box asking for NIC device?
[17:31] <qwiksilver711> ActionParsnip in recovery mode using root shell prompt it gives me issues because it can't make a temp folder, and the packaged diver i got from the website is a .run and instructions tell me to run it in terminal
[17:31] <ActionParsnip> Nusuey: her reviews aren't great imho
[17:31] <zykotic10> CommunistJamie: if you're talking about gnome games, i'd suggest just removing them from menu.  rather then trying to break the metapackage(s) involved.  good luck.
[17:31] <harushimo> i had to step out but does anyone know how I can install pygame for python3 in ubuntu 12.04?
[17:32] <ActionParsnip> Qwiksilver711: why not use the packaged driver?
[17:32] <crystaltvcoby> ActionParsnip: I cant scroll in a new libreoffice text doc.. ideas?
[17:32] <sapro> so anyone wants to help me?
[17:32] <ActionParsnip> !find pygame precise
[17:32] <SolarisBoy> harushimo: install python-pygame
[17:32] <sapro> i'm trying to install ubuntu frum usb and i get: no child node. aborting. error no configuration file found . no default or ui configuration directive found!
[17:32] <ActionParsnip> Harushimo: use software centre
[17:33] <zykotic10> CommunistJamie: i think trying to remove them with a package manager, is going to remove more then you want...
[17:33] <CommunistJamie> Right?
[17:33] <harushimo> if I do that, can I use it for python4
[17:33] <harushimo> I mean python3
[17:33] <qwiksilver711> ActionParsnip: I aplogize for my ignorance here, but isnt the driver i got from nvidias website packaged? I'm quite new and the guy who was supposed to be helping me fell asleep
[17:33] <ActionParsnip> Zykotic10: the games can be removed without issue
[17:33] <harushimo> I have 2.7 and 3.2 installed on my computer
[17:33] <CommunistJamie> Are you saying I shouldn't use the package manager?
[17:33] <zykotic10> CommunistJamie: oh, see ActionParsnip above.
[17:34] <CommunistJamie> Which sudo command do I need?
[17:34] <SolarisBoy> harushimo: that depends on the python-pygame plugin and if its supported by those 2 py versions
[17:34] <ActionParsnip> Qwiksilver711: sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get install nvidia-current
[17:34] <harushimo> from what I was reading, version 1.9 does both
[17:34] <harushimo> let me check really quick
[17:34] <Guest71295> clicking the appearance icon crash ubuntu 12.04, any idea?
[17:34] <qwiksilver711> ActionParsnip: Thank you, I will try this immediately and come back with my next issue.
[17:34] <ActionParsnip> CommunistJamie: sudo apt-get --purge remove gnomine gnome-mahjong
[17:35] <CommunistJamie> I don't have that.
[17:35] <harushimo> another way is to download and do make install from the source
[17:35] <SolarisBoy> harushimo: ubuntu keeps 1.9.1 in the repo so you should be ok i guess
[17:35] <harushimo> okay cool
[17:35] <ActionParsnip> CommunistJamie: just remove the games using software centre and the folder will go
[17:35] <harushimo> thank you because I just tried to do a pip install and it didn't on ubuntu
[17:35] <harushimo> which I don't know why
[17:35] <CommunistJamie> I'm on lubuntu.
[17:36] <_helios_> ActionParsnip, thanks just got your link
[17:36] <CommunistJamie> I don't see the software center.
[17:36] <SolarisBoy> harushimo: it's best to install the language modules via the software center
[17:36] <harushimo> I'll do that right now
[17:36] <ActionParsnip> !ppa | Harushimo
[17:36] <harushimo> thank you
[17:36] <SolarisBoy> harushimo: if they are not available via software then yoy can try to use the seperate language based package manager like pip or easy_install or gem (ruby)
[17:36] <SolarisBoy> but generally if your using the system installed version you should allow the system to manage those modules
[17:37] <qwiksilver711> ActionParsnip: ok that installed them, do I need to restart anything now?
[17:37] <harushimo> SolarisBoy: I did use pip but I heard easy_install isn't supported that much anymore
[17:37] <crystaltvcoby> ActionParsnip: I cant scroll in a new libreoffice text doc.. ideas?
[17:37] <harushimo> I'm avoiding easy_install
[17:37] <ActionParsnip> Qwiksilver711: yes reboot
[17:37] <harushimo> thanks
[17:38] <Guest70719> how are function keys made to work on lubuntu?
[17:39] <hplc> bah! disconnect :(
[17:39] <ActionParsnip> Crystaltvcoby: does the system have a make and model? If you are using a USB mouse etc, does it have a make and model??
[17:39] <k1l> Guest70719: depends on your hardware
[17:39] <Schneemann4> Hey all!!!!
[17:39] <Guest70719> it is sony laptop
[17:39] <NuSuey> ActionParsnip: but at least she uses linux and ..stuff :P
[17:39] <sapro> ActionParsnip: help me please.
[17:39] <ActionParsnip> Nusuey: millions do
[17:39] <Guest71295> if i change swap partition from logical to primary do i have to tell ubuntu i ve done that?
[17:39] <k1l> Guest70719: best way is to google for your exact hardware or look into the hcl.
[17:40] <NuSuey> ActionParsnip: but milions aren't so known :P
[17:40] <ActionParsnip> Sapro: what is the message when you boot the USB?
[17:40] <k1l> !hcl | Guest70719
[17:40] <sapro> no child node. aborting. error no configuration file found . no default or ui configuration directive found!
[17:40] <ActionParsnip> Nusuey: why is celebrity something?
[17:40] <Guest70719> i mean function keys, thats FN (next to ctrl) and an F key.
[17:40] <NuSuey> ActionParsnip: dude, this here is currently soo.. offtopic -.^
[17:40] <ActionParsnip> Sapro: tried the mini ISO?
[17:41] <sapro> no.
[17:41] <Guest70719> and only a few things appear when I type lubuntu FN keys into google, those instructions dont work, i dobt anything would appear if i do lubuntu FN keys on sony pcg-v505cp
[17:41] <k1l> Guest70719: that is device specific. its a acpi
[17:41] <ActionParsnip> Guest70719: if you run: xev    do the shortcuts make different events to the keys pressed on thier own
[17:42] <sapro> i want to test. but i don't know from there should i download
[17:42] <ActionParsnip> Sapro: I suggest you try it
[17:42] <sapro> where*
[17:42] <Guest70719> whats apci? and xev? do i type xev into command line
[17:42] <ActionParsnip> Guest70719: xev    is the command
[17:42] <ActionParsnip> !mini | Sapro
[17:43] <Guest70719> what do i do? i type in xev and some text appears
[17:43] <sapro> thanks. i'll try
[17:43] <jpastore> I just upgraded to 12.10 and the backlight on the monitor no longer works. all of searches lead me to backlight control being weird increments or stuck on max. can someone point me in the right direction?
[17:44] <ActionParsnip> Guest71295: it will have a different UUUD which will need to be changed in fstab
[17:44] <Guest70719> what do i do with xev???
[17:44] <Guest71295> if i change swap partition from logical to primary do i have to tell ubuntu i ve done that?
[17:44] <ActionParsnip> Guest71295: eyes up. I meant UUID
[17:45] <Guest70719> xev brings up a window, when i move it it displays text showing what I do to it
[17:45] <escott> Guest71295, you have to mkswap and update the fstab
[17:45] <ActionParsnip> Guest70719:  press keys, note how it reacts. Press the key without and then with the Fn key held. Are different events made?
[17:46] <zykotic10> ActionParsnip: escott Guest71295 mkswap has a -L to label swap partitions - then you can use LABEL instead of the UUID non-sense
[17:47] <crystaltvcoby> my usb middle mouse button wont scroll in FF or libreoffice text doc's, tried all steps so far, even installed gpointing-device-settings.. anyone have ideas on where I should be looking?
[17:47] <storrgie> I've got an install where it is trying to put the grub parition on the USB disk... how can I manually specify the grub install?
[17:47] <Guest70719> yes, different events are made, the f5 and f6 work incorrectly, only with FN heald down
[17:48] <Guest70719> Presumably somewhere there are FN-key settings, that are by default set to FN+F5, and FN+F6, what i need to know is what settings file that is, or is there a program I use
[17:48] <ActionParsnip> Crystaltvcoby: if you answer my questions, I can advise. Why bother asking if you won't respond to questions for more details
[17:49] <ActionParsnip> !shortcut | Guest70719
[17:49] <bipul> Well can i able to simulate two System runing Ubuntu on both and monitoring there TCP/IP traffic live on any animator
[17:49] <Guest70719> I use LXDE desktop enviroment
[17:50] <ActionParsnip> Guest70719: it still has a keyboard app in settings
[17:50] <crystaltvcoby> ActionParsnip: I did.. you asked if scroll works in other things, I said no but it seems I missed the make and model question..
[17:50] <crystaltvcoby> r/l intrudes.. bbl
[17:51] <ActionParsnip> Guest70719: fyi, the DE in LXDE stands for Desktop Environment.  So you don't need to ad it again,  its redundant
[17:51] <BeowulfB> Yo, I got a question
[17:51] <ActionParsnip> Crystaltvcoby: does the system have a make and model? Does the mouse have a make and model? If yoy scroll up you'd see that
[17:52] <Guest70719> I cant find that option, it does not seem to work
[17:52] <julian-delphiki> BeowulfB: awk away
[17:52] <BeowulfB> So I want to instal ubuntu on an Asus 900
[17:52] <ActionParsnip> Guest70719: i'd ask in #lxde too
[17:52] <BeowulfB> The specs sheet says 512mb ram windows
[17:52] <BeowulfB> and 1Gb linux
[17:52] <BeowulfB> Which is it?!
[17:52] <ActionParsnip> Beowulf: lubuntu is light
[17:53] <BeowulfB> Is it just standard ubuntu with the LXDE?
[17:53] <ActionParsnip> Beowulf: you may have onboard video takinf
[17:53] <ActionParsnip> Raking 512mb
[17:53] <ActionParsnip> Beowulf: yes, just replaces gnome and compiz with kxde and openbox
[17:54] <ActionParsnip> Lxde not kxde
[17:54] <BeowulfB> That's a shame, I actually like Gnome
[17:54] <BeowulfB> would it be able to run on 512mb ram?
[17:55] <BeowulfB> Like, if I set it to the 2D setting
[17:55] <ActionParsnip> Beowulf: you can run gnome apps as you wish
[17:55] <BeowulfB> Cos If it's too much, I could go with plan Puppy lol
[17:55] <ActionParsnip> Beowulf: you could run Precise Ubuntu and use Unity2D
[17:56] <ActionParsnip> Beowulf: plenty of light distributions aroundm slitaz, tinycore etc
[17:56] <BeowulfB> Well that's my other question
[17:56] <BeowulfB> Puppy mentioned ubuntu compatibility
[17:56] <BeowulfB> Can I use ubuntu compiled packages with it?
[17:56] <julian-delphiki> BeowulfB: you can give it a try, it'll likely work.
[17:56] <savio> hi
[17:57] <subman> Can anyone load the following page in Firefox?  http://eflyer.freshco.com/cached_banner_pages/publication.aspx?BannerName=FRSH
[17:57] <BeowulfB> Nothing in Safari
[17:57] <BeowulfB> lemme try firefox
[17:57] <k1l> BeowulfB: better ask that the puppy support
[17:57] <utopiq> Hi, I'm using Lubuntu, and I'm trying to configure my internet connection in manual mode instead of DHCP, but I can't because the Apply button is disabled
[17:57] <ActionParsnip> Beowulf: there is a branch of puppy with ubuntu stuff but I imagine it will quickly lose lightness
[17:57] <utopiq> The only info related I've found is that post on the forum
[17:58] <utopiq> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1753277
[17:58] <utopiq> But it's not solved
[17:58] <ActionParsnip> Beowulf: puppy doesn't use gnome desktop either
[17:58] <BluesKaj> subman, nope , doesn't load here
[17:58] <utopiq> Can anyone help me? Thank you very much in advance
[17:58] <ActionParsnip> Crystaltvcoby: so.....what is it?
[17:58] <nimitz> anyone here knows how to "close" a FISH session in mc (return to local fs)?
[17:59] <subman> BluesKaj, Thanks for the confirmation.
[17:59] <BluesKaj> we have a freshco here , subman ...you must be in Ontario
[17:59] <subman> BluesKaj, Yup, Waterloo
[17:59] <salam> hello
[17:59] <isildur_> hello
[17:59] <day> i reinstalled ubuntu configured my dual monitors from mirroring to extended desktop.. and only displayed the menu logos on one screen..after installing the graphic drivers my main screen which displays the desktop panels doesnt work. any idea how i can fix that easily?
[17:59] <BluesKaj> ok ,hope you get it working , subman
[17:59] <ioria> utopiq: /etc/network/interfaces
[17:59] <isildur_> clear
[18:00] <isildur_> xD
[18:00] <ActionParsnip> Utopiq:  what is the output of: cat /etc/issue
[18:00] <jazzkutya> nimitz: return to home directory with a plan cd command
[18:00] <jazzkutya> nimitz: *plain
[18:00] <utopiq> I'll check it
[18:00] <ioria> utopiq: edit this file with ip mask and gateway and also dns
[18:00] <nimitz> jazzkutya: thanks a bunch
[18:01] <qwiksilver711> alright, when i plug a usb mouse in i am no longer able to click
[18:01] <qwiksilver711> i can click on the launch bar but not actually in windows
[18:01] <utopiq> cat /etc/issue Ubuntu 11.10 \n \l
[18:02] <qwiksilver711> I believe that one button is being read as being pushed down by my mouse, I need so see what button presses are being registered... is there any way to do that?
[18:02] <fabiana> oi
[18:02] <ActionParsnip> Utopiq: its EOL in April. Is it worth it?
[18:02] <utopiq> ActionParsnip cat /etc/issue Ubuntu 11.10 \n \l
[18:03] <utopiq> ActionParship it's my laptop, I've just installed Lubuntu
[18:03] <fabiana> ó a saida aqui do lspci 01:05.0 VGA compatible controller: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI RS690M [Radeon X1200 Series]
[18:03] <utopiq> I don't know why it says 11.10
[18:03] <utopiq> I downloaded Lubuntu just yesterday
[18:03] <isildur_> anybody know english channel for chatting?
[18:04] <ActionParsnip> Utopiq: i'd reinstall with precise.  Oneiric has very little support left
[18:04] <jazzkutya> isildur_: #ubuntu-offtopic
[18:04] <k1l> !ot > isildur_
[18:04] <isildur_> ty :D
[18:04] <apn> isildur_, try #ubuntu-offtopic
[18:05] <CanonPrinter> Hi, does anyone here have an ubuntu forum account? Am trying to access this page: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=18991 - But it says I don't have the previlages to / wants log-in. I am trying to get Canon i350 printer working with ubuntu linux. I did some searching and someone said that only way was turboprint but that costs money. Then later on found this link that someone said seemed to get it working..but can't acces
[18:05] <utopiq> ActionParsnip I downloaded and installed Precise ---> lubuntu-12.10-desktop-i386.iso
[18:05] <CanonPrinter> me what it says?
[18:05] <qwiksilver711> I believe that one button is being read as being pushed down by my mouse, I need so see what button presses are being registered... is there any way to do that?
[18:05] <utopiq> I mean QQ
[18:06] <ActionParsnip> Utopiq: then why does issue say 11.10
[18:06] <zvacet> CanonPrinter: I can see site what do you need
[18:06] <k1l> utopiq: can you give a "pastbinit /etc/apt/sources.list"
[18:07] <utopiq> ActionParsnip, really; I have no idea....
[18:07] <jazzkutya> qwiksilver711: you can go to system settings and configure keyboard shortcuts, change one shortcut with that mouse button you will see the button name then restore the shurtcut to it's original setting
[18:07] <utopiq> kll yes, I'll do it
[18:07] <CanonPrinter> zvacet: canon i350 driver for ubuntu linux , so i can print from this pc to printer
[18:07] <k1l> utopiq: maybe you have to install pastebinit first. after that it gives you a link, just show the link here
[18:08] <utopiq> k1l, sorry, I'm dumb... I can't because I've not connection
[18:08] <utopiq> that is what I'm trying to do... to get connection
[18:09] <ioria> utopiq:  do you have a /etc/network/interfaces file ?
[18:09] <ActionParsnip> Utopiq: I suggest yoy reinstall with either precise or Quantal.  Delete the partitions and install fresh.  Run a final backup if needed
[18:09] <zvacet> CanonPrinterftp://download.canon.jp/pub/driver/bj/linux/
[18:09] <utopiq> ioria yes
[18:09] <k1l> utopiq: ah ok. can you look into the "cat /etc/apt/sources.list" and tell which release is mentioned there?
[18:09] <ioria> utopiq:  cat it
[18:09] <qwiksilver711> jazzkutya: that is not working to register what button my mouse is pushing.  Any other ways to register all input?
[18:09] <utopiq> that's the content
[18:09] <jazzkutya> ioria: isn't network connections settings in /etc/NetworkManager/system-connections with ubuntu-desktop?
[18:09] <utopiq> auto lo iface lo inet loopback
[18:10] <lukas__> Hello, I an thinking of rooting my android tablet and installing ubuntu there. I found few articles but before starting I want to know if the change could be reverted. Is there such a way,
[18:10] <utopiq> 2 lines
[18:10] <lukas__> ?
[18:10] <zvacet> CanonPrinterftp:ftp://download.canon.jp/pub/driver/bj/linux/
[18:10] <utopiq> auto lo iface
[18:10] <utopiq> lo inet loopback
[18:10] <ioria> utopiq:  what are they ?
[18:10] <ioria> utopiq:  ok
[18:10] <yeats> lukas__: not supported here - you might try #android
[18:10] <zvacet> CanonPrinter: is that what you need
[18:10] <jazzkutya> qwiksilver711: you can use the xev program but first read it's documentation it may be not trivial to quit it. can't test it now myself i'm not on linux atm
[18:10] <ioria> utopiq:  you have to edit the file
[18:10] <lukas__> yeats: ok, thanks
[18:11] <qwiksilver711> alright
[18:11] <utopiq> ioria, ok, what I've to do
[18:11] <qwiksilver711> good day all
[18:11] <ioria> utopiq:  like this but with your configuration:
[18:11] <utopiq> k1l it says Oniric, maybe it's because I did the installation without internet connection...
[18:11] <Tuxmascot> How do I downgrade from 12.10 to 12.04?
[18:11] <ioria> auto eth0
[18:11] <ioria> iface eth0 inet static
[18:11] <ioria> address <IP_ADDRESS>
[18:11] <ioria> netmask <IP_ADDRESS>
[18:11] <ioria> gateway <IP_ADDRESS>
[18:11] <ioria> dns-search example.com
[18:11] <FloodBot1> ioria: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:11] <CanonPrinter> zvacet: ah thanks.. i am abit of a noob at linux and installing... does it give any instruction on like which file to download and how to install?
[18:12] <utopiq> ioria, thanks, I'll try to do it
[18:12] <k1l> utopiq: so you didnt download a 12.10 but a 11.10
[18:12] <CanonPrinter> it has many files there listed..not sure which one i need
[18:12] <yeats> Tuxmascot: you'll have to back up your files and reinstall - no downgrade available
[18:12] <Ziber> How can I completely remove uprecords-cgi? It's been corrupted somehow...
[18:12] <Tuxmascot> ugh....
[18:12] <Tuxmascot> alright...
[18:13] <Ziber> 1   3317 days, 19:54:1 | Linux 3.2.0-35-generic-p  Mon Dec 31 12:14:25 2012
[18:13] <utopiq> k1l, believe me, I know it sound weird, but I only downloaded lubuntu once and it was 12.10, I still have the ISO on my PC
[18:13] <ActionParsnip> Canonprinter: http://www.zedonet.com/en_p_turboprint_driver.phtml?printer=Canon_i350
[18:13] <Tuxmascot> yeats: Would you recommend that I downgrade? 12.10 seems really unstable.
[18:13] <yeats> Tuxmascot: what are your issues
[18:13] <cha0xm1nd> why is it so danm hard to get a Geforce card working in Ubuntu 12.10???
[18:13] <Tuxmascot> When it starts, it shows my wallpaper and nothing else. It's not usable.
[18:14] <utopiq> I'm going to edit interfaces file
[18:14] <ActionParsnip> Cha0xm1nd: sudo apt-get install nvidia-current
[18:14] <yeats> Tuxmascot: what model graphics card do you have?
[18:14] <zvacet> CanonPrinter:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/1528579/
[18:14] <Tuxmascot> Geforce 210
[18:14] <yeats> Tuxmascot: which driver are you using?
[18:15] <ActionParsnip> Tuxmascot: tried a different desktop?  You will need to reinstall to downgrade
[18:15] <Tuxmascot> I haven't installed any yet.
[18:15] <cha0xm1nd> ActionParsnip, i did that over and over again... no luck
[18:15] <ioria> utopiq:  restart the network service after
[18:15] <ActionParsnip> Cha0xm1nd: do you use optimus?
[18:16] <Serano> don't know if it is a bug, but is something really annoying. I've set my pass at setup, changed it to something else, did some reboots, when I save a password to my keychain it requires a pass, my password. The only problem is, it's the old one, not the new pass. How do I get them to sync, and/or how do I change the password for the keychain
[18:16] <Serano> Ubuntu 12.04
[18:16] <Tuxmascot> Does Ubuntu interact better with my Galaxy Nexus than Windows?
[18:16] <ActionParsnip> Cha0xm1nd: if you run: sudo lshw -C display     do you see an Intel and an nvidia GPU?
[18:16] <cha0xm1nd> ActionParsnip, i have no idea... i just bought the computer and am currently on a fresh installment
[18:16] <Tuxmascot> Serano: go to terminal type sudo passwd
[18:16] <apn> Tuxmascot, no.  Windows is officially supported, while Linux is not.
[18:16] <k1l> Tuxmascot: what you mean with "interact"?
[18:16] <iceroot> Tuxmascot: in which way?
[18:16] <CanonPrinter> zvacet: ah, but it says there, for i5xx, i8xx, i9xx or similar. Does it say anywhere there that it works for mine -- i350? if not i guess i'll try and see if this works then.
[18:17] <Ziber> How can I completely remove uprecords-cgi? It's been corrupted somehow... Says my top record is 3000+ days, which it isn't.
[18:17] <Tuxmascot> I can transfer files in between the galaxy nexus and the compy?
[18:17] <Serano> Tuxmascot that's what I did in the first place to change the password for my account. The keychain password remains the same
[18:17] <ActionParsnip> Tuxmascot: I've got a guide to make moubting nexus easier
[18:17] <iceroot> apn: windows is not officially supported by android
[18:17] <yeats> Tuxmascot: does 'Ctrl-Alt-t' bring up a terminal?
[18:17] <soulz> Freedom from the desire for an answer is essential to the understanding of a problem.
[18:17] <soulz> Read more at http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/quotes/j/jiddukrish125491.html#p6cpiJkO63qMerjs.99
[18:17] <k1l> Tuxmascot: mtp is kinda ugly. but there are methods to use it
[18:17] <Ziber> also "down   -3312 days, -12:-5 | since                     Thu Dec 20 14:57:23 2012". Thoughts?
[18:17] <Tuxmascot> yeats: When it is frozen? No. When it works (like now)? Yes.
[18:17] <yeats> !ot | soulz
[18:18] <yeats> Tuxmascot: ok, so it does work sometime?
[18:18] <Tuxmascot> After about 3-5 reboots lol
[18:18] <yeats> *sometimes
[18:18] <arshavin> virtualbox debian screen resolution problem,installed guest additions but resolutions shown are far higher than that supported by my lapto
[18:18] <ActionParsnip> Tuxmascot: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/12/how-to-easily-mount-the-galaxy-nexus-on-ubuntu-11-10-via-unity
[18:19] <Tuxmascot> Thanks ActionParsnip!
[18:19] <arshavin> also seamless option is greyed out
[18:19] <Tuxmascot> Play some TF2 now lol
[18:19] <Tuxmascot> bye
[18:19] <ActionParsnip> Arshavin: then ask in #debian
[18:19] <zvacet> CanonPrinter: just entered link you gave and that is what i found maybe it will better to just ask here
[18:19] <BluesKaj> lol? what's funny?
[18:19] <CanonPrinter> zvacet: thanks again, i'll try this, and if not work, i'll be back
[18:19] <yeats> Tuxmascot: ok - then go to Software Sources and click on the Additional Drivers tab, then select the nvidia driver you want
[18:20] <arshavin> i think its a virtualbox problem
[18:20] <BluesKaj> another lol, crazed user
[18:20] <zvacet> CanonPrinter: np  :)
[18:20] <apn> iceroot, android is not officially supported by anything, and it would be an oxymoron if it was.  But Samsung Galaxy is.
[18:20] <yeats> er..
[18:21] <iceroot> apn: all systems which are using standard protocols for file-access and co are working fine with it but no os is officially supported (for what should it be supported)
[18:21] <ActionParsnip> Arshavin: then ask in #vbox
[18:22] <apn> iceroot, please refer to Samsung Galaxy manual.
[18:22] <iceroot> apn: i dont need a manual, i dont own such a phone
[18:22] <arshavin> ActionParsnip:ok thanks
[18:22] <apn> iceroot, case's closed.
[18:22] <iceroot> apn: strange guy but ok
[18:23] <ActionParsnip> Canonprinter: did you check the link I gave
[18:23] <utopiq> ActionParsnip k1l ioria forgive me, I did silly mistake, I was checking the info on my PC and not in my laptop, that's why it appeared Oniric instead of QQ. I tried the ioria solution but it's not working
[18:24] <ioria> utopiq:  did you restarted ?
[18:24] <ActionParsnip> Utopiq: can you ping <IP_ADDRESS>?
[18:25] <utopiq> ioria, yes, the full system
[18:25] <ioria> utopiq:  how the file interfaces looks like ?
[18:26] <sylphie> would many things fail if the java runtime was deleted?
[18:26] <utopiq> ActionParsnip no, I can't I'm trying to configure the internet connection
[18:26] <ActionParsnip> Utopiq: if you run:  echo "nameserver <IP_ADDRESS>" | sudo tee /etc/resolv.conf      do you get web access?
[18:26] <utopiq> ioria exactly like you said,
[18:26] <BluesKaj> sylphie, dunno , not many ppl delete it
[18:26] <cha0xm1nd_> ActionParsnip, lshw -c displays unclaimed
[18:26] <apn> sylphie, no, only apps that rely on java.
[18:27] <ioria> utopiq:  ifconfig ?
[18:27] <ActionParsnip> Cha0xm1nd: but only the nvidia gpu, nothing else?
[18:27] <sylphie> ok. I saw a thing on the news last night where the DHS is advising everyone to get rid of their java
[18:27] <jpastore> I just upgraded to 12.10 and the backlight on the monitor gets disabled during the boot process. any ideas?
[18:28] <ActionParsnip> Utopiq: can you ping the routers internal ip?
[18:28] <utopiq> ActionParsnip, no I don't get network access
[18:28] <utopiq> the problem is my router don't uses DHCP
[18:28] <ActionParsnip> Jpastore: what make and model system?
[18:28] <cha0xm1nd_> ActionParsnip, VGA compatible controller with nvidia as product and vendor
[18:28] <utopiq> I need to configure not to use DHCP but the grafic util has the Apply button disabled when I choose manual insted of DHCP
[18:29] <apn> sylphie, well, you shouldn't have any problems afterwards, as nothing system essential is using it.  Many commercial java apps come with their own runtime packaged
[18:29] <ActionParsnip> Cha0xm1nd: try:  sudo nvidia-xconfig    then reboot
[18:29] <utopiq> I'm trying to connect via WIFI
[18:29] <ActionParsnip> Utopiq: is the system a laptop?
[18:29] <ioria> utopiq:  my file was for eth0 ... ??????
[18:29] <jpastore> ActionParsnip, asus eee pc
[18:30] <ioria> utopiq:  not for wifi
[18:30] <utopiq> ioria ifconfig shows eth0 ..... lo ..... wlan0
[18:30] <apn> utopiq, that means that you are missing some information. Do you have dns configured as well? What about mask?
[18:30] <Mobil> Hi, I have slow transfer rate between my xfs filesystem and ntfs USB. Accessing the XFS system from my windows machine over the network nets me full speed, where as with my USB I'm getting 4.5 MB/s . Can I fix this?
[18:30] <ioria> utopiq:  use wlan0 not eth0 in interfaces
[18:30] <ActionParsnip> Jpastore: which one, there are lots of eee pcs
[18:30] <utopiq> ioria, ok thanks, I'll do it
[18:31] <jpastore> ActionParsnip, yea I was looking for a model number. I don't see one...even looked under battery...how can I better answer this?
[18:31] <ActionParsnip> Utopiq: is the system va laptop?
[18:31] <sylphie> Mobil \ the ntfs-3g driver is naturally slow, and being on usb makes that worse
[18:31] <ioria> utopiq:  but i think you need the password
[18:31] <jpastore> ActionParsnip, oh wait I see it. dark grey on black text. 1025C
[18:31] <ActionParsnip> Jpastore: sudo dmidecode -t 1     will show you
[18:31] <utopiq> ActionParnsip yes, a Assus EEE
[18:32] <utopiq> ioria, yes, I used the root password
[18:32] <ioria> utopiq:  no the router password
[18:33] <utopiq> the router password? to do what?
[18:33] <ioria> utopiq:  you don't have in your router a password ?
[18:33] <hey> is this ubuntu
[18:34] <ioria> utopiq:  anyone can access you router ...elsewhere
[18:34] <Mobil> sylphie: I have a centOS machine at work and it copies files fast to USB. Moreover, my windows drive has no problem accepting files and copying them at 80+MB/s, it is infact much faster for me to copy over the network to my USB (from linux box to usb attached to win box). Now I don't have USB 3.0 on windows box but I have USB3.0 on linux box, and that's why I want to transfer stuff on linux box itself
[18:34] <ActionParsnip> Jpastore: run :    sudo set pci -s 00:02.0 F4.B=75
[18:34] <utopiq> ioria, yes but I don't want to change the router configuration, just configure the laptop to use static ip insted DHCP
[18:34] <Guest61902> is ubuntu better than windows 7
[18:34] <ActionParsnip> Guest61902: depends
[18:35] <xmlnewbi> if i was trying to ssh into a vmware ubuntu server. What ip address would I use? I tried my own but im getting a connection refused
[18:35] <jpastore> ActionParsnip, set command not found
[18:35] <Mobil> Guest61902: not if you want to copy files to your external drive apparently :/
[18:35] <ActionParsnip> Xmlnewbi: the ip of the guest
[18:36] <utopiq> ioria bad luck, I still have no connection on the laptop, even editing interfaces to use static IP for the wlan0 interface
[18:36] <xmlnewbi> there a command line to return that?
[18:36] <ActionParsnip> Mobil: works fine here
[18:36] <ActionParsnip> Xmlnewbi: ip addr
[18:36] <Guest61902> ubuntu-12.10-desktop-i386.iso216 KB/s - 416 MB of 753 MB, 26 mins left http://mirror.uoregon.edu/ubuntu-releases//quantal/ubuntu-12.10-desktop-i386.iso PauseCancel
[18:36] <Guest45836> i am trying to install ubuntu 12.04 on an usb pen drive but it happens i want to use it in an old computer that seems to refuse using logical partitions on usb pen drives. i ve installed ubuntu 12.04 and changed the logical partition to primary but it still doesn t work. do i have to make anything more?
[18:36] <Mobil> ActionParsnip, could you help me out ? what version are you running of ubuntu?
[18:37] <jpastore> ActionParsnip, so it was setpci  not 'set pci' awesome...how would I have figured that out. where did you look that up? is this permanent?
[18:37] <yeats> xmlnewbi: you'd need to get access to the virtual console via vmware and login there
[18:37] <harushimo> so when is the ubuntu phone OS coming out?
[18:37] <harushimo> I'm just curious
[18:37] <ioria> utopiq:  but with dhcp you can access internet ?
[18:37] <jpastore> ActionParsnip, btw, you are a machine. thanks for being so helpful
[18:37] <harushimo> or has it already been shipped?
[18:37] <yeats> !phone | harushimo
[18:37] <Guest61902> lol ubuntu phone, lmao just use androde
[18:37] <ActionParsnip> Jpastore: I used the thing called 'the internet'
[18:38] <utopiq> ioria to check if I can access I've to change router configuration and that affects to some devices...
[18:38] <JJ55jo> Hello, I'm trying to install ubuntu on a tablet, Does anyone know how to boot android device from the sd card slot
[18:38] <Guest45836> i am trying to install ubuntu 12.04 on an usb pen drive but it happens i want to use it in an old computer that seems to refuse using logical partitions on usb pen drives. i ve installed ubuntu 12.04 and changed the logical partition to primary but it still doesn t work. do i have to do anything more?
[18:38] <ActionParsnip> Jpastore: you could put the command in /etc/rc.local   above the exit 0 libeband it will run each boot
[18:38] <sylphie> Mobil \ so you are saying your linux box with slow usb-drive transfers is usb 3.0? Because I have heard of other others reporting that their usb 3.0 drives work very slowly from linux, as compared to usb 2.0 on the same machiones, so it might be a driver issue?
[18:38] <utopiq> in fact, the only problem is a button that appears disabled, just enabling that button...
[18:38] <JJ55jo> Hello, I'm trying to install ubuntu on a tablet, Does anyone know how to boot android device from the sd card slot