[00:03] <nightrid3r> just did a clean install of kubuntu netbook and can't get my usb 3G modem working
[00:04] <wizkoder> is it supported by linux at all? what does lsusb say?
[00:05] <nightrid3r> it worked on ubuntu
[00:05] <nightrid3r> its a huawey e165
[00:08] <nightrid3r> lsusb finds it and dmesg detects the modem ports
[00:09] <nightrid3r> i just cant get the NM applet to start my connection
[00:12] <mefisto__> nightrid3r: you want to use it as a modem?
[00:12] <nightrid3r> yes
[00:13] <mefisto__> have you tried with knetworkmanager?
[00:13] <nightrid3r> yes
[00:13] <nightrid3r> it doesnt allow to start the connection
[00:14] <Daskreech> nightrid3r: Gnome-networkmanager?
[00:14] <Daskreech> nightrid3r: install the gnome networkmanager then
[00:15] <nightrid3r> i can't install without the connection working :(
[00:15] <Daskreech> nightrid3r: Ah. Umm how are you here then?
[00:15] <nightrid3r> same modem on a windows laptop
[00:17] <Daskreech> nightrid3r: ok download the packages from p.u.c
[00:17] <nightrid3r> puc ?
[00:17] <Daskreech> packages.ubuntu.comhttp://
[00:18] <Daskreech> http://packages.ubuntu.com
[00:18] <nightrid3r> ok
[00:18] <nightrid3r> any dependency's i should take care of
[00:19] <Daskreech> Yes it will mention it on the page
[00:19] <nightrid3r> ok
[00:19] <nightrid3r> try that
[00:20] <Daskreech> launchpad-integration libgtop2-7 libgtop2-common liblaunchpad-integration1
[00:20] <Daskreech>   whois
[00:20] <Daskreech> it seems
[00:21] <luis_> Hello I got problems with my laptop bluetooth: I have an aspire 4520 but the bluetooth doesnt works, the kbluetooth icon is grey
[00:21] <luis_> whats wrong?
[00:23] <mefisto__> luis_: my laptop does that when bluetooth is switched off (on the laptop). is there an led to indicate bluetooth hardware is switched on?
[00:24] <luis_> mefisto__: the bluetooth button, when clicked, just makes the volume bar pop up...
[00:25] <mefisto__> luis_: is there a switch or key combo to turn bluetooth on/off?
[00:25] <luis_> nop
[00:25] <mefisto__> luis_: on the laptop, I mean
[00:25] <luis_> yes
[00:25] <luis_> mefisto__: the bluetooth button, when clicked, just makes the volume bar pop up...
[00:30] <hish> is there any one know what is the good snd-hda-intel for Dell Latitude E5400
[00:30] <hish> for alsa
[00:32] <hish> I did try more than one module like dell, dell-m22, dell-bios
[00:32] <hish> but non of them give me a goof qualtiy sound
[01:01] <lynxgeeknyc> hello people
[01:01] <Daskreech> !hi
[01:01] <lynxgeeknyc> anyone here in nyc?
[01:05] <Daskreech> lynxgeeknyc: Umm ?
[01:06] <lynxgeeknyc> Um Um Um?  :-p
[01:06] <Daskreech> Any other questions?
[01:26] <CartoonCat> Hellos. Im having a issue with my card reader (built into laptop)
[01:26] <CartoonCat> namely, its not seeing my MSPD card
[01:41] <joshua> does anyone use kmail?
[01:43] <Daskreech> Guest53601: yes
[01:44] <Daskreech> CartoonCat: umm ok what have you tried?
[01:44] <CartoonCat> Daskreech: pluging in the card, and nothing beyond that works (dmesg doesnt say anything)
[01:45] <CartoonCat> Daskreech: google tells me that the card reader <should> have been compiled into the stock kernel, so, it should be there
[01:45] <m0ar> Where does the xfce4-terminal house it's config file?
[01:45] <m0ar> as default
[01:46] <CartoonCat> ricoh_mmc is listed in a lsmod too, so, again, nost sure what is up
[01:46] <joshua___> why do i hear sound in my speakers and my headphones?
[01:53] <Daskreech> CartoonCat: Google can't tell you that. Check the kernel
[01:53] <Daskreech> m0ar: ~/.config
[01:54] <CartoonCat> Daskreech: and how can i do that? someone decided not to support /proc/config.gz
[01:55] <CartoonCat> Daskreech: as i said, the default build that i found for kubuntu says it is, but short of compiling a new kernel myself or access to the config, how to check
[01:56] <Daskreech> CartoonCat: should it get a /dev device node?
[01:57] <CartoonCat> Daskreech: ah yes, /dev/mmc and no its not there
[01:57] <CartoonCat> assuming they kept it as that
[01:58] <joshua___> why do i hear sound in my speakers and my headphones?
[01:58] <Daskreech> joshua___: Alsa rules?
[01:59] <joshua___> what?
[02:35] <linucks> Hello, I have problems with SKIM/SCIM Japanese Anyth input in Kubuntu 9.10 not working with Open Office but with most other things, can anyone help me diagnose and fix this?
[02:36] <linucks> anthy*
[02:36] <Daskreech> using Scim or skim ?
[02:36] <Daskreech> Scim should work with OO.o
[02:36] <linucks> I have set up skim.
[02:36] <Daskreech> honestly SKIM should as well but OO.o is kinda strange sometimes
[02:36] <linucks> scim works fine in gnome with OO but not kde :/
[02:37] <linucks> hmm, any idea what I might start checking to see what's wrong?
[02:37] <linucks> I don't know where to start
[02:39] <linucks> like, the key command to change does not work in Oo
[02:39] <linucks> nor will it work by selecting the input method on the icon
[03:06] <judgen> How do i set the desktop folder to me the entire desktop? I had it that way before, just dont remember how.
[03:21] <judgen_> figured out
[03:24] <daskreech> judgen_: Hmm?
[03:29] <judgen_> where is the theme settings for the taskbar?
[03:36] <daskreech> in system settings under appearance
[03:47] <ethana2> Anyone here using Bespin with global menu?
[03:56] <daharon> Hey guys.  What ftp client are you using in KDE 4?
[04:07] <daskreech> daharon: Konqueror
[04:10] <zeko> hi guys, my mobile phone shows up on 'lsusb' but it does not have a mount point, how can i manually mount it?
[04:13] <Daughain> Whats the edit when going from gnome to kde to get the shutdown option back?
[04:30] <|sysop|> I put a second video card in my machine and I can see it in size and orientation but everything is greyed out. whats the next step.
[04:35] <|newbie|> i have lost my volume icon in the panel at the bottom of my desktop can anyone help me get it back?
[04:38] <ethana2> I just installed kubuntu-desktop and Bespin, but I don't know how to get the xbar plasmoid
[04:39] <ethana2> somehow I was messing up the package name.  copy and paste seems to have made progress :P
[05:24] <david> I need help
[05:24] <Guest40272> how can i see the version of my kubuntu  from terminal?
[05:25] <Guest40272> the problem is I cant see the youtube videos
[05:25] <Guest40272> because f the flash plugin
[05:26] <Guest40272> I try:sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[05:26] <Guest40272> and nothing happend
[05:26] <Guest40272> some idea?
[05:26] <Guest40272> please
[05:44] <lynxgeeknyc> hey there
[05:44] <lynxgeeknyc> sorry about that
[05:44] <lynxgeeknyc> who needs help
[05:50] <Ites|sleep> back to bed :w
[05:50] <lynxgeeknyc> heh
[05:50] <lynxgeeknyc> i'm in nyc it's 1am and i'm trying to figure out Asterisk lol
[05:50] <lynxgeeknyc> yey!
[06:05] <tweetbox> i just got lucid, what should I know before I screw it up?
[06:11] <zubin71> hi, right now , im switching workspaces with <ctrl> + f1,f2 etc... id like to use <ctrl><alt><direction-key> to navigate; how do i do that?
[06:16] <tweetbox> let me see...
[06:16] <tweetbox> what version u using
[06:18] <tweetbox> zubin71 what version of linux u running?
[06:18] <zubin71> tweetbox, karmic
[06:19] <tweetbox> go to system settings>desktop>Multiple Desktops and go to the shortcut tab. You can make it go to the right and make it ctrl alt >
[06:20] <zubin71> tweetbox, i dont seem to be having a shortcut tab at all!
[06:20] <tweetbox> reallly? I'm using lucid, so I have tried as much as i can
[06:21] <tweetbox> try to find anything that says shortcuts anywhere in "desktop"
[06:21] <zubin71> tweetbox, thanks a lot for trying anyway... :-)
[06:21] <zubin71> sure...
[06:24] <tweetbox> ill brb in 3 min
[06:26] <tweetbox> i'm back
[06:36] <lynxgeeknyc> so am i
[06:36] <lynxgeeknyc> :-p
[06:37] <lynxgeeknyc> anyone here?
[06:38] <G_Dog> does any one know how to flash play on 64bit easier
[06:38] <G_Dog> ?
[06:38] <kaniini> you may want to rephrase that
[06:39] <kaniini> you've gpt 64bit system and want to get flash animations play smoother?
[06:39] <kaniini> *got*
[06:40] <G_Dog> does any one know how to flash play on 64bit easier ?
[06:43] <lynxgeeknyc> i don't
[06:43] <lynxgeeknyc> i don't even know what that is
[06:43] <lynxgeeknyc> lol
[06:43] <lynxgeeknyc> i'm trying to figure out Asterisk
[06:43] <lynxgeeknyc> lol
[06:49] <gregg> Hi - i'm having HUGE problems controlling my smb mounted folders - right now I can't umount anything, even with -f, and a list over my mounts is showing the mounts several times - this is getting frustrating, and probably the reason my shutdown takes so long time :(
[07:00] <lynxgeeknyc> hey gregg
[07:00] <gregg> lynxgeeknyc: hey
[07:01] <lynxgeeknyc> hmm
[07:01] <lynxgeeknyc> that is strange
[07:01] <gregg> lynxgeeknyc: are you here to save me? ;)
[07:01] <lynxgeeknyc> what version of linux do u have?
[07:01] <lynxgeeknyc> i will try
[07:02] <gregg> karmic
[07:02] <lynxgeeknyc> what foulder are u trying to unmount?
[07:02] <lynxgeeknyc> exact path
[07:03] <gregg> let me show you output of my 'umount'
[07:03] <gregg> http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/zBaceFeD
[07:03] <gregg> sorry, that was 'mount'
[07:04] <JigBoot>  It is time to put those Haitian jigaboos in their place!    They never will!  The same goes for New Orleans!  Cancun in Mexico suffered few fatalities after their major hurricane, and the rebuilding is already completed.  Wha
[07:04] <JigBoot>  t have the niggers in New Orleans done? If you are sick of this, join Chimpout Forum!  http://www.chimpout.com/forum  We welcome all races except for NIGGGGGGGERS!  We are not white supremacists, just negro inferiorists! http://www.chimpout.com/forum
[07:04] <FloodBotK1> JigBoot: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:04] <lynxgeeknyc> damn.. he sh should get kicked
[07:04] <lynxgeeknyc> so gregg
[07:04] <gregg> yes?
[07:05] <lynxgeeknyc> what u can do is get a GUI util
[07:05] <lynxgeeknyc> nautilus-share
[07:05] <gregg> oki
[07:05] <gregg> ummm, in kubutu??
[07:05] <lynxgeeknyc> supports all
[07:05] <lynxgeeknyc> linux
[07:06] <lynxgeeknyc> why are u using this anyways?
[07:06] <gregg> what do you mean by "this"?
[07:06] <lynxgeeknyc> Samba
[07:06] <lynxgeeknyc> right?
[07:06] <gregg> right
[07:06] <gregg> using it to share files from my server to all my machines
[07:06] <gregg> it's my media server
[07:07] <gregg> is there a better alternative?
[07:07] <lynxgeeknyc> yes
[07:07] <lynxgeeknyc> SSH
[07:07] <lynxgeeknyc> File Server
[07:07] <lynxgeeknyc> or VNX
[07:07] <lynxgeeknyc> VNC
[07:07] <lynxgeeknyc> VNC is the best alternative actually
[07:08] <lynxgeeknyc> lol
[07:08] <gregg> ?
[07:08] <lynxgeeknyc> I mean VPN
[07:08] <gregg> was gonna say.. lol
[07:08] <lynxgeeknyc> Virtual Private Network
[07:08] <lynxgeeknyc> i know lol sorry
[07:08] <lynxgeeknyc> late
[07:08] <lynxgeeknyc> brain fried
[07:08] <FloodBotK1> lynxgeeknyc: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:08] <gregg> what's the easiest? ;)
[07:08] <lynxgeeknyc> VPN in the long run
[07:09] <lynxgeeknyc> u can connect to a VPN from anywhere and share files. Even outside network
[07:09] <lynxgeeknyc> Files, Printers, etc
[07:09] <gregg> well i don't NEED that, but as long as i can get rw access from my laptop to my server than i'm ok
[07:10] <lynxgeeknyc> yeah
[07:10] <lynxgeeknyc> you can do all of that
[07:10] <gregg> ok - i'll searching now
[07:10] <pteague> i love these dependencies... i'm wanting to install k3b and have no need for mysql-server-core-5.1 on a particular box... however, k3b -> kdebase-workspace-bin -> plasma-widgets-workspace -> akonadi-server -> mysql-server-core-5.1 ...  really? must i?
[07:11] <lynxgeeknyc> no way
[07:11] <lynxgeeknyc> u don't need it
[07:11] <lynxgeeknyc> oh wait
[07:11] <lynxgeeknyc> actually i think certain functions require mysql
[07:11] <gregg> lynxgeeknyc: still not sure how to clean up my samba problems though
[07:12] <lynxgeeknyc> nautilus-share   ...  get that
[07:12] <lynxgeeknyc> see if it will help
[07:12] <pteague> akonadi-server depends on mysql-server-core-5.1 & akonadi-server is a pim, but i have no interest in using akonadi
[07:12] <lynxgeeknyc> sudo apt-get install nautilus-share
[07:12] <gregg> lynxgeeknyc: not gonna do it - it wants me to install gnome
[07:12] <gregg> "dependencies"
[07:12] <lynxgeeknyc> ohh.. what do u have now
[07:12] <lynxgeeknyc> KDE?
[07:12] <gregg> yes
[07:13] <pteague> this particular box is accessing a mysql server *remotely* there's no reason for a local mysql server
[07:13] <lynxgeeknyc> hmmm..  I use gnome.. lol
[07:13] <gregg> than what are you doing in the kubuntu channel? ;)
[07:13] <lynxgeeknyc> smarter people lol
[07:14] <lynxgeeknyc> where are you located btw?
[07:15] <gregg> denmark
[07:15] <lynxgeeknyc> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpSamba
[07:15] <lynxgeeknyc> try this
[07:15] <lynxgeeknyc> nice
[07:15] <lynxgeeknyc> american internet sucks lately
[07:16] <lynxgeeknyc> for instance, my ISP blocks Port 80 and 21 lol
[07:16] <lynxgeeknyc> unless I pay a lot of money
[07:21] <lynxgeeknyc> wow. this is sooo cool
[07:21] <lynxgeeknyc> lol
[07:22] <lynxgeeknyc> i have been using my screen name for quiet some time now and still haven't played around with Lynx.. I just downloaded it and playing with it now. I think Lynx is awesome for SEO
[07:40] <i-637> mm
[07:44] <naught101_> Every time my computer goes to sleep (suspend to ram), it wakes up, and then immediately sleeps again, but only once.
[07:44] <naught101_> It's not critically annoying, since the second sleep/wake cycle is pretty quick, but does anyone know what might be causing this, or how I might fix it?
[08:18] <Peace-> :)
[08:18] <Peace-> Hi
[09:00] <bdizzle> hi
[09:01] <bdizzle> I was wondering if someone could help me unlock the add / remove programs, I did something in terminal that managed to wipe firefox and flash
[09:01] <bdizzle> I got firefox back, minus the bookmarks (sad day)
[09:01] <bdizzle> but it gets stuck on the flash process
[09:01] <Peace-> well ...
[09:02] <Peace-> so .. your flash videos can be played well?
[09:02] <bdizzle> no, I managed to uninstall the plugin and flash in general somehow
[09:02] <Peace-> mm
[09:02] <bdizzle> now I can't unlock anything to be able to uninstall the messed up download to reinstall the new one
[09:03] <Peace-> bill_: sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[09:03] <Peace-> bdizzle:  sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[09:03] <bdizzle> right now I'm getting:  debconf: DbDriver "config": /var/cache/debconf/config.dat is locked by another process: Resource temporarily unavailable
[09:03] <bdizzle> when trying sudo dpkg --configure -a
[09:04] <Peace-> bdizzle: close every window less of course the IRC window
[09:04] <bdizzle> ok
[09:04] <Peace-> bdizzle: then... try to open a terminal
[09:04] <Peace-> and type
[09:04] <Peace-> sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[09:04] <Peace-> if you get the same message you should consider the easier way ... reboot
[09:04] <Peace-> and then...
[09:04] <Peace-> sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[09:05] <bdizzle> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[09:05] <Peace-> if you don't want reboot ....
[09:05] <Peace-> bdizzle: mmm
[09:05] <Peace-> that is bad
[09:05] <bdizzle> basically I'm locked out
[09:05] <Peace-> what did you do before?
[09:07] <bdizzle> had a really slow internet connection, and managed to close out the terminal at about 1% (it had taken 10 minutes to get that far) under sudo apt-get install flashplugin-installer
[09:07] <Peace-> ok
[09:07] <bipolar> bdizzle: what else does the error message say?
[09:07] <Peace-> bdizzle:  sudo apt-get  install -f
[09:08] <bdizzle> is there a place to post it so that it doesn't spam?
[09:09] <bdizzle> debconf: DbDriver "config": /var/cache/debconf/config.dat is locked by another process: Resource temporarily unavailable
[09:09] <bdizzle> Setting up flashplugin-installer (<IP_ADDRESS>ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS>) ...
[09:09] <bdizzle> debconf: DbDriver "config": /var/cache/debconf/config.dat is locked by another process: Resource temporarily unavailable
[09:09] <Peace-> !paste
[09:09] <bdizzle> thanks/
[09:10] <Peace-> bipolar: i think he should reboot
[09:10] <Peace-> bipolar: easier way
[09:10] <Peace-> sad but easy
[09:10] <bdizzle> tried that once, didn't work
[09:10] <bipolar> yeah. that would be the easy way.
[09:11] <bdizzle> http://paste.ubuntu.com/390193/
[09:11] <bipolar> well then.. forget that :P
[09:11] <bdizzle> tried deleting the lock file
[09:11] <bdizzle> it only came back
[09:12] <Peace-> bdizzle:  sudo apt-get remove flashplugin-installer
[09:12] <bdizzle> okay, hold on
[09:12] <bipolar> bdizzle: try running "fuser -v /var/cache/debconf/config.dat"
[09:12] <bipolar> maybe we could see if a proc has that file open
[09:13] <bdizzle> I think that may have worked
[09:13] <bdizzle> the apt-get remove
[09:13] <Peace-> bdizzle:  then ....  sudo apt-get remove flashplugin-nonfree
[09:14] <Peace-> bdizzle: so after that  ....  sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[09:14] <Peace-> that should fix it
[09:14] <bdizzle> ugh
[09:15] <bdizzle> is there a way to purge the file and any partial installs?
[09:16] <Peace-> sudo apt-get remove --purge
[09:16] <bdizzle> http://paste.ubuntu.com/390195/
[09:16] <Peace-> sudo apt-get remove --purge packagename
[09:17] <Peace-> bdizzle: have you reboot ?
[09:17] <bdizzle> I was able to get the non-free
[09:17] <Peace-> ed
[09:17] <bdizzle> but the flashplugin-installer is giving issues
[09:17] <bdizzle> not recently, I did do that before
[09:17] <Peace-> reboot please
[09:17] <bdizzle> k, brb
[09:20] <bdizzle> I forgot how quickly sudo reboot worked
[09:20] <Peace-> ...
[09:20] <Peace-> ok
[09:21] <bdizzle> okay, so now try to install?
[09:21] <Peace->  bdizzle: now try to do:  sudo apt-get remove flashplugin-installer  flashplugin-nonfree
[09:21] <Peace-> then
[09:22] <Peace-> sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[09:22] <bdizzle> okay, its running now
[09:22] <Peace-> well :)
[09:22] <bdizzle> sadly going to take a while, I think the school put a bandwidth cap for 24 hours on me, something about taking a day off and trying to catch up on hulul
[09:22] <bdizzle> *hulu
[09:22] <Peace-> you didn't need to reboot like said from bipolar there was a way...
[09:23] <Peace-> but.. well reboot was fastest
[09:23] <bdizzle> yeah, I think the bandwidth hates me. Its claiming it will take two hours to download 3.8 MB
[09:31] <luis_> I need help kubuntu: I upgraded to KDE 4.4, but it had an error and after login it had a black screen. I entered secure mode and restored the packages, but now i have a desktop mounted over the other!
[09:38] <Peace-> luis_: mm
[09:38] <Peace-> luis_: could you explain better ?
[09:38] <Peace-> i mean a desktop mounte over the other?
[09:39] <Peace-> anyway ...
[09:39] <Peace-> luis_: you could try this sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[09:39] <bdizzle> Peace-: I think its working, its just going to take all night for some reason to download
[09:40] <Peace-> bdizzle: well
[09:41] <bdizzle> but hopefully it will work
[09:41] <Peace-> i should
[09:41] <Peace-> it
[09:42] <bdizzle> cool, thanks so much for your help, this almost seemed like something basic that I manged to forget
[09:42] <bdizzle> typically I stay out of command line unless I have to use it for something
[09:42] <Peace-> basically one installation istance was in background ... and linux allows only 1 installation istance
[09:42] <bdizzle> yeah
[09:49] <bdizzle> hmm, I keep getting "partial content" downloads
[09:49] <bdizzle> is there a way to stop it and purge what has been downloaded so far?
[09:49] <bdizzle> then have it install via the gui?
[09:50] <Peace->  /var/cache/apt/archives/ here there are all debian packages
[09:50] <neo_matrix> Hi
[09:50] <bdizzle> okay
[09:51] <neo_matrix>  Hi
[11:09] <snow_usa> hi
[11:09] <snow_usa> is there a live CD for kubuntu ?
[11:10] <ghostcube> sure www.kubuntu.org downloads
[11:10] <snow_usa> ghostcube, no, liveCD, run on RAM
[11:10] <snow_usa> not touch harddisk
[11:10] <Tm_T> snow_usa: yes, basic kubuntu cd runs as livecd
[11:14] <Peace-> desktop version is a live cd
[11:14] <Peace-> alternate no
[11:15] <Peace-> http://releases.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/karmic/
[11:18] <paolinuz> :)
[11:48] <HunterFett> hey folks. I was told I ought to check out pulse audio to resolve my sound issues. However, adding that package tells me it needs to remove libsdl1.2debian-alsa. If I click okay, it tells me it's going to also remove what looks like my entire linux installation. What to do?
[11:50] <HunterFett> Anyone?
[11:52] <HunterFett> I was told I ought to check out pulse audio to resolve my sound issues. However, adding that package tells me it needs to remove libsdl1.2debian-alsa. If I click okay, it tells me it's going to also remove what looks like my entire linux installation. What to do?
[12:07] <ghostcube> HunterFett: hmm pulsedauio shoudlnt be needed for working sound
[12:07] <ghostcube> what problems do you have
[12:09] <oriol> hi
[12:10] <oriol> i use kubuntu, when i try to eliminate large amount of files the trash its get full very soon, it's possible to eliminate a file without sending it to trash ?
[12:10] <oriol> in kubuntu ?
[12:10] <ghostcube> ctrl + entf
[12:10] <ghostcube> should just delete it
[12:10] <ghostcube> *del
[12:10] <ghostcube> :)
[12:11] <oriol> entf ?
[12:11] <oriol> what key is that
[12:11] <ghostcube> del
[12:11] <oriol> ok
[12:11] <ghostcube> i have a german keyboard sorry
[12:12] <ghostcube> and you can set in dolphon options the setting to show delete in the context menu for an file
[12:12] <ghostcube> not only move to trash
[12:20] <Ites> I messed something up, that desktop window, I minimalized it to system tray. I deleted that then, I hoped it would come back to the way it was before but now it's gone, how can i make it appear again? :s
[12:20] <ghostcube> Ites: its an miniprogram show folder :)
[12:21] <ghostcube> just add it do the desktop again
[12:21] <Ites> where? :p
[12:22] <ghostcube> you see the cashew in the right corner
[12:22] <ghostcube> click it and use add miniprogram
[12:22] <ghostcube> or widget
[12:22] <ghostcube> whats it in english kde :s
[12:24] <Dolphine> Hello! Amarok wont play my music, got Kubuntu 9.10
[12:24] <ghostcube> other media players play music ?
[12:24] <Dolphine> ghostcube: yes
[12:24] <Dolphine> ghostcube: atleast vlc
[12:25] <ghostcube> mp3 ?
[12:25] <Dolphine> ghostcube: yes
[12:26] <Dolphine> ghostcube: I'm new to KDE
[12:26] <Ites> wel no ghostcube when i do that I have a button to click to return to Desktop. But there was also an apart window where i could see files i dl'd to dekstop, and it's not the same...
[12:27] <ghostcube> Ites: if you look at the widgets there is an widget for displaying any folder you want on youre workspace
[12:27] <ghostcube> it shows files of desktop or what you want
[12:28] <Dolphine> ghostcube: i've already fixt it :)
[12:28] <Ites> yes I'm looking at that ghostcube, but it's not the show dekstop
[12:28] <ghostcube> Dolphine: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-restricted-extras
[12:28] <Ites> im looking
[12:28] <ghostcube> Dolphine: oh ok
[12:29] <Ites> gonna retsart KDE
[12:29] <Ites> brb
[12:29] <ghostcube> Ites: hmm i dont have an english kde aand iam not on kde right now :)
[12:32] <boesmans> hmm no it's gone -_-
[12:33] <reanimation> hello linux
[12:33] <reanimation> #ubuntu
[12:34] <|sysop|> I have a weird one. my swap wont mount on boot. but if I use swapon it works fine.
[12:35] <|sysop|> I tried using mount manager to rewrite my fstab and now everything has uuids but still if I swapoff the swap partition and do a mount -a and then do a top its not mounted. but if I do a swapon again it works fine.
[12:36] <|sysop|> this didnt happen till after I moved my installation to a new hdd. and changed the swap size from 6 to 10 gig.
[12:37] <|sysop|> is 10 gig too big?
[12:37] <|sysop|> but swapon forces it?
[12:44] <vishal> i am having a lot of issues with pulseaudio ... i am on ubuntu 9.10 (karmic).....system freezes, hangs, auto is garbled ...etc etc..........any one has any pointers for help?
[12:44] <vishal> i am having a lot of issues with pulseaudio ... i am on kubuntu 9.10 (karmic).....system freezes, hangs, auto is garbled ...etc etc..........any one has any pointers for help?
[12:47] <boesmans> can i, instead of amsg, using another command to send a msg to all channels of server i'm currently on?
[12:50] <pascalFR> !pxe
[12:50] <vishal> i am having a lot of issues with pulseaudio ... i am on kubuntu 9.10 (karmic).....system freezes, hangs, auto is garbled ...etc etc..........any one has any pointers for help?
[12:55] <pascalFR> !audio
[12:59] <ubuntu> Hello
[12:59] <ubuntu> I am new here
[12:59] <ubuntu> :)
[12:59] <ghostcube> hi ubuntu :)
[12:59] <ubuntu> Hey
[12:59] <ubuntu> Thank GOODNESS someone TALKS
[12:59] <ubuntu> :)
[13:00] <ubuntu> Actually i am new to LInux:$
[13:00] <ghostcube> :)
[13:00] <robin0800> ubuntu: youv'e not ssked a question yet
[13:00] <ubuntu> HOw are you
[13:01] <ubuntu> Well, WHat is this a chatroom or ?
[13:01] <ubuntu> WHat reallyW
[13:01] <ubuntu> Will anyone tell m
[13:01] <ubuntu> me
[13:01] <ghostcube> ubuntu: its a support channel chat is in offtopic
[13:01] <ghostcube> #kubuntu-offtopic
[13:01] <ubuntu> Oh thats nice i just downloaded it hhhhhhhhhh
[13:02] <ubuntu> Okay so will anyone tell me WHAT'S THE BEST MSN FOR UBUNTU ? I am using emesen
[13:04] <ubuntu> Everyone sleeping ?
[13:05] <ghostcube> hmm most its sunday :)
[13:05] <ubuntu> hahah
[13:05] <ubuntu> Well here its not a holiday on sunday !
[13:05] <ubuntu> Where are you from ?
[13:06] <ghostcube> germany :)
[13:06] <ubuntu> Ohh
[13:06] <ubuntu> Really far
[13:08] <ubuntu> You there ?
[13:12] <ubuntu> WILL ANYON
[13:12] <ubuntu> HELP ME ?
[13:12] <FloodBotK1> ubuntu: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:12] <ubuntu> Okay cool !
[13:12] <ubuntu> Tell me
[13:12] <ubuntu> PLEASE
[13:13] <ubuntu> HOw can i install windows live messenger ?
[13:13] <ubuntu> on this ubuntu
[13:13] <machot> you can with wine, but Kopete is better for this
[13:14] <ubuntu> I mean messenger ? yeah so WINE and Kopete ? they are good ?
[13:14] <ubuntu> I am using Emese
[13:15] <ubuntu> Thanks its downloading :)
[13:15] <machot> wine need you for installing wlm, but kopete is a nativ kde messenger client
[13:15] <ubuntu> Ohh
[13:16] <ubuntu> So after installing wine ? i can install the wlm.exe on ubuntu /
[13:16] <ubuntu> ?
[13:16] <machot> yep
[13:17] <zeko> hi guys, how can i enable the shut down option in kubuntu
[13:17] <zeko> that is , i installed kde onto ubuntu
[13:17] <ubuntu> Thanks a lot :)
[13:18] <ubuntu> I am new to it so thanks a lot really :)
[13:18] <ubuntu> What's Kubuntu ?
[13:18] <Kyril> Has anybody besides me noticed that PolicyKit does not work after update to KDE SC 4.4.1?
[13:18] <zeko> ubuntu: ubuntu + kde
[13:18] <ubuntu> And what is KDE ?
[13:18] <ubuntu> Known as
[13:18] <ubuntu> ?
[13:19] <zeko> ubuntu: i think Kool Desktop Environment
[13:19] <ubuntu> There is WINE BETA RELEASED and which should i install ?
[13:19] <ubuntu> OH um interesting
[13:21] <Oxymoron> How to fix video issue with 4.4.1?
[13:21] <ubuntu> Can i know a better video player for VOB formats mosty DVD like Wndows got K lite /
[13:22] <robin0800> ubuntu: vlc?
[13:22] <ubuntu> Yeah right Robin
[13:22] <ubuntu> Actually i am installing programs and looking what cani really install in Ubuntu
[13:23] <ubuntu> But is there any chance to install programs of windows ? on ubntu
[13:23] <ubuntu> Thanks for the Kopete MACHOT
[13:23] <robin0800> ubuntu: well vlc plays most files as far as I know
[13:24] <ubuntu> Yeah that's right
[13:24] <ubuntu> Lemme get that :$
[13:26] <ubuntu> Is there any patch for Kopete ? or something
[13:26] <ubuntu> Any help
[13:35] <pascalFR> !kde
[13:41] <ubuntu> How to install windows live messenger after installing WINE ?
[13:44] <shadeslayer> ubuntu: why do you need Live messenger? just use kopete?
[13:44] <k4hdfg> in ubuntu there is generally a replacement program for every windows program
[13:44] <shadeslayer> ubuntu: youll find this very helpful : http://www.osalt.com/
[13:45] <shadeslayer> Open Source as a Alternative,its a site which lists closed source alternatives ;)
[13:48] <ubuntu> Oh thanks K4 :)
[13:53] <snow_usa> strange
[13:53] <snow_usa> very strange
[13:53] <snow_usa> I changed the hwadress !!!
[13:54] <ubuntu> WHat are you saying dude
[13:56] <snow_usa> I changed the hwaddress by editing in /etc/networking/interfaces ; => /etc/init.d/network restart ;
[13:56] <snow_usa> then, I can not come back to my original HWaddress
[13:56] <ubuntu> hhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
[13:56] <snow_usa> I have already removed the line I added to /etc/networking/interfaces ; and restart the network
[13:57] <snow_usa> but the HWAddress doesnt' come back !
[13:57] <ubuntu> Okay listen i am new here its my first day, PLease ask anyone else :)
[13:57] <ubuntu> STRANGE HHHHHHHHH
[13:57] <ubuntu> BRB after a restat
[13:57] <ubuntu> restart
[13:57] <FloodBotK1> ubuntu: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:03] <lars_> .
[14:09] <SaiNumeri> yo!
[14:10] <SaiNumeri> need some help figuring out how to rip a dvd, iffin someone knows how to do such a thing
[14:10] <Peace-> SaiNumeri: of course
[14:10] <Peace-> SaiNumeri: italian ?
[14:11] <SaiNumeri> do i speak italian? no, sorry...
[14:11] <SaiNumeri> i could use google translate though
[14:11] <SaiNumeri> lol
[14:11] <Peace-> SaiNumeri: no no i thiked you were italian
[14:11] <SaiNumeri> ah
[14:11] <Peace-> thinked
[14:11] <SaiNumeri> USA
[14:11] <Peace-> well there is a lots of software to do that
[14:11] <Peace-> for example k3b
[14:11] <SaiNumeri> right, kubuntu came with that
[14:12] <SaiNumeri> and ive downloaded DVD::Rip
[14:12] <SaiNumeri> but thats confusing as i'll get at
[14:13] <rogue780> I'm mainly familiar with ubuntu but I've decided to move to kubuntu...what, if anything, should I know that will help me with the transition?
[14:13] <Peace-> SaiNumeri: screenshot working
[14:13] <Peace-> SaiNumeri: http://imagebin.ca/view/YnXqVl0.html
[14:13] <Peace-> rogue780: my blog ? xD
[14:14] <Peace-> rogue780: you can find a lots of stuff here they are my "notes" http://imagebin.ca/view/YnXqVl0.html
[14:14] <Peace-> rogue780: sorry was this one http://nowardev.wordpress.com/
[14:16] <rogue780> Peace-: thanks. i'm starting to read it now
[14:16] <Peace-> rogue780: http://nowardev.wordpress.com/gnome2kde/
[14:16] <SaiNumeri> Peace-: ok, so i opened up k3b and tried to do what you illustrated in that screenshot, but the same menu didnt pop up. possibly an update issue?
[14:17] <Peace-> SaiNumeri: mmm wait thinking
[14:17] <SaiNumeri> Peace-:  also, last night when i tried to rip with k3b it kept throwing up error messages
[14:17] <SaiNumeri> righto
[14:17] <Peace-> rogue780: and this one http://nowardev.wordpress.com/2009/06/05/top-application-free-software/
[14:18] <Peace-> SaiNumeri: omg that is a bad issue then
[14:18] <Peace-> SaiNumeri: maybe you should try another ripper
[14:18] <Peace-> but k3b should work very well
[14:18] <Peace-> anyway i have to remmeber the onther software
[14:19] <SaiNumeri> Peace-: tried dvd::rip too, same issue. and toggen<or whatever the hell its called>
[14:19] <Peace-> mmm
[14:19] <SaiNumeri> indeed
[14:19] <Peace-> looks like you have a messed up system
[14:19] <SaiNumeri> oh boy....
[14:19] <Peace-> *i think*
[14:20] <SaiNumeri> know any way i could diagnose? <<<<windows spoiled
[14:22] <SaiNumeri> heh, cool, we have the same dvd drive, i think
[14:22] <SaiNumeri> matshida dvd-ram uj-8505
[14:22] <SaiNumeri> or is that some code that i just dont know....
[14:23] <Peace-> yea i have a mashita
[14:23] <Peace-> or whatever
[14:24] <BluesKaj> 'Morning folks
[14:24] <SaiNumeri> morning to ya
[14:25] <robin0800> BluesKaj: afternoon
[14:25] <BluesKaj> hi robin0800
[14:26] <Peace-> SaiNumeri: http://linuxappfinder.com/
[14:26] <Peace-> should help you
[14:26] <SaiNumeri> mmkay
[14:26] <SaiNumeri> ill check it out
[14:26] <SaiNumeri> tyty, bbiab
[14:26] <Peace-> SaiNumeri: should sstart with k9
[14:26] <SaiNumeri> ok
[14:27] <Peace-> SaiNumeri: k9copy should be
[14:32] <SaiNumeri> Peace-: downloading k9copy atm
[14:33] <SaiNumeri> i wonder if its a dvd drive issue...
[14:33] <SaiNumeri> it works with my cd's though
[14:35] <Peace-> SaiNumeri: dunno man
[14:35] <SaiNumeri> Peace-: ok, so i have k9copy up and running, and im looking at the title tree. i'm assuming that the largest file is the actual movie.
[14:35] <Peace-> i guess yea
[14:36] <SaiNumeri> ok, well i guess i'll try it and see what happens
[14:36] <SaiNumeri> ty again btw
[14:38] <devurandom> Hi!
[14:38] <SaiNumeri> yay, working so far
[14:38] <SaiNumeri> HOWDY!
[14:38] <devurandom> Can someone please tell me the output of "dpkg --search /usr/share/kde4/apps/kdm/themes/oxygen-air"?
[14:38] <devurandom> I am running Kubuntu 9.10 + KDE 4.4 and apparently the kdm themes got lost...
[14:42] <devurandom> The only dir I have is /usr/share/kde4/apps/kdm/themes/ethais...
[14:44] <devurandom> And kdm refuses to start: ~"the design file /usr/share/kde4/apps/kdm/themes/oxygen-air cannot be opened".
[14:50] <BluesKaj> devurandom, try  /usr/share/kde4/apps/kdm/themes/default just to get kdm up and running
[14:50] <devurandom> BluesKaj: How shall I "try" that?
[14:50] <devurandom> symlink?
[14:51] <BluesKaj> devurandom, in the terminal,  sudo /usr/share/kde4/apps/kdm/themes/default restart
[14:51] <devurandom> ???
[14:52] <devurandom> That directory does not even exist... And how shall a directory ever be executed?
[14:52] <robin0800> devurandom: ctrl alt f1 for tty prompt
[14:53] <devurandom> I know how to get to a VT... I just dont know how to get that theme directory...
[14:53] <devurandom> Or how to get kdm to use a different theme.
[14:53] <robin0800> devurandom: try startx
[14:53] <devurandom> That will start an x session as the user I am logged in, not?
[14:53] <Aison> hello, it's a littlebit ot, but here my question: I installed eclipse, I installed tomcat, inside eclipse I installed these WebDevelopmentTools
[14:53] <BluesKaj> devurandom, drop to a TTY , sudo /etc/init.d/kdm start
[14:53] <devurandom> BluesKaj: That produces the abovementioned error message.
[14:53] <Aison> but under Preferences -> Server -> Runtime  I cant select tomcat apache
[14:53] <devurandom> BluesKaj: And kdm refuses to start...
[14:54] <BluesKaj> well, i would worry about themes right , I'd try to get kdm working
[14:55] <BluesKaj> wouldn't
[14:55] <devurandom> BluesKaj: KDM does not start because there is no theme it can use...
[14:55] <devurandom> There is simply *nothing*...
[14:56] <devurandom> So it is apparently unable to show "nothing".
[14:57] <BluesKaj> devurandom, there's a default theme
[14:57] <robin0800> devurandom: does start x work
[14:57] <BluesKaj> startx
[14:57] <devurandom> BluesKaj: Named "default"? Then not.
[14:58] <devurandom> robin0800: No, doesnt, complains that module "i810" is not available.
[14:58] <devurandom> But kdm start at least shows me a dialog box, so it cant be that bad.
[14:58] <HandyGandy> koala here. Running kde 4.4. Something weird has happened.  I rebooted. Lost my pager on the bottom panel. Got it back. The thing is I have a right panel, before windows could be moved under, but when I maximized the window did not go under. Now windows can go under but when I maximise the windows use full screen. including under the right panel. How do I reset this?
[15:06] <devurandom> I even reinstalled kdm, still nothing...
[15:09] <Peace-> devurandom: what's the problem
[15:10] <devurandom> Peace-: kdm refuses to start, shows ~"the design file /usr/share/kde4/apps/kdm/themes/oxygen-air cannot be opened" in a dialog box right after x started.
[15:10] <Peace-> mmm sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[15:11] <SaiNumeri> wow... tried ripping and my computer just slowed to the speed of smell...
[15:11] <devurandom> Peace-: Further, there are no themes installed, besides "ethai".
[15:11] <SaiNumeri> need....more.............ram.............................
[15:11] <Peace-> devurandom: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[15:12] <devurandom> Yes, trying that right now.
[15:12] <devurandom> Issue is that this tries to install network-manager, while I want wicd...
[15:12] <devurandom> I'll accept for now and hope it brings the missing files...
[15:12] <SaiNumeri> Peace-: thanks for the help earlier, im out
[15:13] <Peace-> SaiNumeri: bye
[15:13] <devurandom> Peace-: The themes are still missing.
[15:14] <Peace-> wai t a second
[15:14] <devurandom> kdm start still complains.
[15:14] <Peace-> i will search
[15:15] <devurandom> Peace-: Thanks.
[15:15] <devurandom> Maybe dpkg --search /usr/share/kde4/apps/kdm/themes/oxygen-air can already help me.
[15:15] <Peace-> sudo apt-get install oxygen-icon-theme-complete
[15:16] <schultza> What do I find the Repositories for Handbrake and Skype?
[15:16] <schultza> Where, not what
[15:17] <Peace-> !skype
[15:18] <schultza> Thank you.
[15:20] <devurandom> Peace-: No, still missing any theme but "ethais".
[15:21] <devurandom> dpkg -L says oxygen-icon-theme-complete contains /usr/share/doc/....
[15:21] <Peace-> mm
[15:21] <Peace-> oxygen-icon-theme ?
[15:22] <devurandom> is installed
[15:22] <Peace-> o wow
[15:22] <Peace-> thinkin
[15:24] <devurandom> trying to reinstall it now...
[15:25] <BluesKaj> devurandom, about the network manager , you can install wicd and when doing so nm will be disabled
[15:25] <devurandom> Yes, did that. Thanks for the tip anyway. :)
[15:25] <devurandom> Peace-: I think it's a bug in some package...
[15:25] <BluesKaj> good
[15:25] <devurandom> So probably a dev has to deal with it.
[15:25] <Peace-> devurandom: well i think it's not
[15:26] <devurandom> How come? :)
[15:26] <devurandom> Peace-: What did dpkg --search say whom /usr/share.../oxygen-air belongs to?
[15:26] <devurandom> Peace-: Are you also using the kubuntu-ppa with KDE 4.4.1?
[15:26] <schultza> !google
[15:26] <lacysinx>  i have a quick question  how do i see my hardrive on my computer  when i installed Ubuntu it was able to see my 500g  but Kubuntu isn't ?
[15:26] <Peace-> i am using devurandom backports.
[15:27] <Peace-> i am using devurandom backports. devurandom and not kubuntu ppa
[15:27] <schultza> Ok. Not the info I was looking for...
[15:27] <devurandom> Peace-: "devurandom backports"?
[15:27] <devurandom> My PPA contains no Ubuntu packages...
[15:27] <pascalFR> !kvm
[15:27] <Peace-> devurandom: i use backports and stop
[15:27] <Peace-> and i have kde 4.4.2
[15:27] <devurandom> Ah, ok.
[15:27] <lacysinx> umm....
[15:27] <Peace-> and i have kde 4.4.1
[15:28] <devurandom> On Karmic?
[15:28] <Peace-> yes
[15:28] <devurandom> Hm, maybe I messed something up...
[15:28] <lacysinx> i guess no one can answer my question lol
[15:28] <devurandom> Hm, it seems as if I am not using the PPA either...
[15:29] <pascalFR> !partition
[15:29] <devurandom> Ah, there is a .d directory.
[15:29] <BluesKaj> schultza, sudo fdisk -l , but you can also see your partitions with kde partion manager or gparted
[15:29] <lacysinx>  is there a  help channel ?
[15:29] <pascalFR> !partition | lacysinx
[15:30]  * schultza is still looking for Google and Handbrake repositories for 9.10 Kubuntu.
[15:30] <BluesKaj> err lacysinx, sudo fdisk -l , but you can also see your partitions with kde partition manager or gparted
[15:31] <BluesKaj> schultza, try medibuntu
[15:31] <pascalFR> !medibuntu
[15:31] <BluesKaj> for handbrake
[15:31] <devurandom> Hm, how do I downgrade packages?
[15:32] <lacysinx>  ok so i need to mount the drive then ?
[15:33] <devurandom> Hm, the channel topic disagrees with Peace-... " KDE SC 4.4 in the Kubuntu Backports PPA: http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kde-sc-4.4 "
[15:33] <pascalFR> lacysinx: what disk are your talking about ?  a second drive ?
[15:34] <lacysinx> yes i have a 1t drive which has kubuntu installed and a 500g
[15:34] <pascalFR> lacysinx: ok  how is the 500g connected to the box?
[15:34] <lacysinx> yes
[15:34] <lacysinx> sata ?
[15:35] <pascalFR> lacysinx: ok internal  not a usb disk
[15:35] <lacysinx>  the only thing i know is  when i installed ubuntu 9.10 it was able to see the 500g  but not kubuntu
[15:35] <lacysinx> correct
[15:37] <pascalFR> lacysinx: ok first install a partition manager
[15:37] <pascalFR> !partitionmanager | lacysinx
[15:38] <lacysinx> ok its done now what
[15:39] <schultza> !handbrake
[15:40] <lacysinx> brb
[15:40] <lacysinx>  thanks
[15:42] <tom_> hi all
[15:47] <schultza> Later. Thank you.
[15:50] <Fieldy> hello, I am using Jaunty. I used the little network management app (I don't know what it's called) to set up a custom ethernet connection with custom DNS servers and so on (the DHCP server in my router sucks, short story). When i set up that custom connection, I did check connect automatically. The thing is when I power up or resume from sleep, the connection settings go back to Auto eth0, which does not have the settings I want. I have to r
[15:50] <Fieldy> ight click and choose my custom connection every time. how can I get it to use mine all of the time? Auto eth0 is not listed anywhere, thus I can't delete it.
[15:50] <FloodBotK1> Fieldy: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:50] <Fieldy> I didn't, i pressed enter once. I didn't think it was that long. sorry.
[15:58] <lacysinx> pascalFR
[16:00] <lacysinx> ok my question is  this on my second drive which has windows im just trying to access that drive from Kubuntu
[16:00] <pascalFR> lacysinx: ok
[16:01] <lacysinx>  i dont wanna  partion the drive i just access it
[16:01] <pascalFR> then you have to add en entry in fstab for this partition
[16:01] <pascalFR> lacysinx: do you to have permanent access to it ?
[16:01] <lacysinx>  i dunno how can i tell
[16:01] <pascalFR> lacysinx: the partitionner shows you the partition name
[16:02] <pascalFR> lacysinx:  first go to superuser shell
[16:02] <pascalFR> lacysinx: in konsole   sudo -i
[16:02] <lacysinx> ok 1 sec
[16:03] <lacysinx> ok im in
[16:04] <pascalFR> lacysinx:  copy the fstab  in case you do something wrong:   cp /etc/fstab /etc/fstab.org
[16:04] <lacysinx>  do i pass that
[16:04] <lacysinx> paste that  is
[16:04] <pascalFR> yes
[16:05] <lacysinx> ok done
[16:05] <pascalFR> lacysinx: create a directory to mount the windows partition
[16:05] <pascalFR> lacysinx:   mkdir /mnt/windows
[16:05] <lacysinx> i paste that in term  right
[16:06] <pascalFR> yes
[16:06] <lacysinx> done
[16:06] <pascalFR> lacysinx:    ls -l /mnt/windows
[16:06] <lacysinx> total 0
[16:06] <pascalFR> lacysinx:    ls -ld /mnt/windows
[16:06] <pascalFR> sorry
[16:06] <pascalFR> :)
[16:07] <lacysinx> 4096 2010-03-07 11:05 /mnt/windows
[16:07] <pascalFR> the begining is missing :)
[16:07] <lacysinx> its there
[16:08] <pascalFR> drwxrwxrwx 10 pascal pascal 4096 2009-11-03 08:39 /mnt/windows
[16:08] <pascalFR> is mine
[16:09] <pascalFR> lacysinx: ?
[16:17] <metellius> I am going to file a bug on kdm terminating the current session without warning when the package is updated, but I'm using the kubuntu ppa to get kde 4.4, so I'm not sure where to report the bug. does anyone know?
[16:34] <iRenegade> may i ask, how do you get java jre on kubuntu?
[17:00] <res> Buenas deseo ir al irc en Español UBuntu
[17:09] <pascalFR> !es
[17:09] <pascalFR> !es | es
[17:10] <dolio> Is anyone using the 4.4 ppa packages? And if so, are they, perchance, causing xorg to use 100% CPU followed by the system hard locking during KDE login? :)
[17:13] <pascalFR> yes  no proble here
[17:13] <pascalFR> 4.4.1
[17:14] <pascalFR> !xorg
[17:17]  * pandamonium is flabbergasted
[17:17] <pandamonium> my GUI has gone. disappeared. won't come back :(
[17:46] <lacysinx> i have a question im useing usb speakers  but i have no sound ?
[17:49] <lacysinx> hello?
[17:50] <robas> good day to all
[17:51] <spirov92_> hi there. I want to try kubuntu, but it seems the normal download is going to take all day. is there a torent somewhere?
[17:53] <robas> http://releases.ubuntu.com/releases/kubuntu/8.10/
[17:53] <robas> Torrents are at the bottom.
[17:53] <boesmans> cya alllllllllllllllllll
[17:53] <lacysinx> can someone help me with a  sound problem  im useing usb device
[17:53] <lacysinx> usb speakers
[17:54] <spirov92_> robas: thanks
[17:54] <robas> np
[17:57] <robas> any toughbook cf 28 touchscreen users over there?
[18:03] <stiive> kubuntu lucid lynx is pretty hot
[18:08] <kubuntu_girl> hello
[18:09] <kubuntu_girl> i'm in the kubuntu community? right?
[18:10] <kubuntu_girl> salut
[18:10] <mfraz74> hello
[18:11] <sat> ubutnu fr svp????
[18:12] <sat> ubutnu pour les français je vous prie merci
[18:12] <robas> kugirl hi
[18:13] <sat> hi robas
[18:14] <sat> qlq parle le français??
[18:14] <robas> negative
[18:14] <sat> qlq'un parle le français??
[18:15] <robas> Im ussing the most popular language in the world..... yes thats bad english :D
[18:15] <BluesKaj> !fr | sat
[18:16] <robas> english or lithuanian?
[18:16] <sat> french
[18:16] <sat> merci ubottu
[18:22] <jonathan_> hello how do i enable nvidia drivers on a clean install kubuntu 9.10
[18:22] <chrisss> hi
[18:22] <jonathan_> hello
[18:22] <chrisss> i need help converting a ps file to pdf using ps2pdf
[18:23] <chrisss> ps2pdf only converts the lower left corner to pdf
[18:24] <jessi90> hello  all
[18:24] <jonathan_> hello
[18:24] <robas> hello
[18:25] <jonathan_> can anyone help me enable nvidia driver in a clean install?
[18:25] <BluesKaj> which nvidia card , jonathan_ ?
[18:25] <jonathan_> 8600
[18:25] <jonathan_> mobile
[18:26] <jessi90> I do not succeed to insert the codec w32codes in kubuntu, does not appear not even in kpackgekit
[18:26] <BluesKaj> on karmic?
[18:26] <jonathan_> i think last time it just popped up saying do you which to uses these drivers... yeah karmic
[18:26] <BluesKaj> w32codecs, jessi90
[18:26] <jessi90> yes
[18:27] <BluesKaj> !medibuntu | jessi90
[18:27] <jessi90> because I do not see the rows grandfathers, solo the voice
[18:27] <robas> might help? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1149184
[18:28] <jessi90> BluesKaj: how I must make?
[18:30] <jessi90> BluesKaj:  I type then on   free software   and .......  ?
[18:31] <BluesKaj> jessi90, just follow the instructions , they are very clear
[18:32] <jonathan_> so what do i have to do?
[18:33] <BluesKaj> jonathan_, do you see the hardware drivers in kmenu/system?
[18:33] <jessi90> BluesKaj:   Browse through the lists of packages:   karmic.hardy intrepid ??
[18:33] <jonathan_> ok
[18:34] <jonathan_> yay! thank you my good fellow
[18:34] <jessi90> I use kubuntu
[18:34] <BluesKaj> jessi90, whatever kubuntu you have installed , use that.
[18:35] <BluesKaj> jessi90, in the terminal , do this : lsb_release -a ..that will tell you which version of kubuntu you have installed
[18:40] <jonathan_> what email client is everyone using these days?
[18:40] <lalalol> hi, if i add the ppa for KCE SC 4.4.1, will i get auto-updates for versions later than 4.4.1 such as 4.4.2 and onwards?
[18:41] <jonathan_> still thunderbird
[18:41] <jonathan_> ?
[18:42] <lalalol> someone?
[18:45] <lalalol> !kde
[18:45] <lalalol> !kde4
[18:46] <lalalol> ok, so this is the right channel
[18:46] <jonathan_> lol
[18:46] <lalalol> so who knows?
[19:12] <chx> is it possible to use gestures (like opera does) that are only specific button combinations? Click middle, keep it pressed press left , release all == back.
[19:16] <jessi90>  lsb_release -a
[19:17] <jessi90> I do not see the films .avi, only the voice the screen is black thing I must make?
[19:17] <jessi90> I do not see the films .avi, only the voice the screen is black thing I must make?
[19:22] <AltrortlA> knetworkmanager tells me device eth0 device unmanaged... internet connection belong to a lan. But I can't surf in internet and knetworkmanager remains as a green globe. What sould i do?
[19:34] <VonVon> Hello where in kubuntu can I define shortcuts?
[19:46] <binarylooks> VonVon: one possibility: open two dolphins side by side and drag your file to be linked from one location to the next
[19:46] <binarylooks> VonVon: a popup will show with "move, copy and lilnk" options
[19:47] <VonVon> binarylooks: yeah I've already found it but thank you anyway
[19:47] <binarylooks> VonVon: np
[19:50] <Schenker> the kubuntu's cd brings kde4.4, right?
[19:53] <ubuntu> :)
[19:53] <Schenker> ?
[19:54] <ubuntu> um
[19:54] <ubuntu> Nothing
[19:54] <ubuntu> New here !
[19:55] <Schenker> ubuntu: welcome ;)
[19:55] <binarylooks> Schenker: current lucid yes, but karmic not
[19:56] <binarylooks> Schenker: but lucid is in production, so no final release yet
[19:56] <ubuntu> Can i know whats the latest Ubuntu released ?
[19:56] <ubuntu> I'm on the one released last year
[19:56] <binarylooks> ubuntu: karmic (9.10)
[19:56] <ubuntu> Thanks
[19:56] <ubuntu> Wait
[19:56] <binarylooks> 9 means 2009 and 10 means october
[19:56] <binarylooks> next one will be 10.4
[19:56] <ubuntu> You are using Ubuntu 9.10
[19:56] <ubuntu>                 - the Karmic Koala - released in October 2009 and supported until April 2011.
[19:56] <ubuntu>
[19:56] <ubuntu> This ?
[19:56] <FloodBotK1> ubuntu: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:56] <ubuntu> Oh i see
[19:56] <binarylooks> yep
[19:56] <ubuntu> When ? will it be
[19:56] <Schenker> binarylooks: ah ok
[19:57] <binarylooks> ubuntu: i like living on the edge. am using a development version of 10.4
[19:57] <remur_030> !seen tpearson
[19:57] <ubuntu> hhhhhhhh
[19:57] <remur_030> hmm, hey guys, anybody know how to reach tpearson?
[19:57] <ubuntu> What does it means supported untill 2011 ?
[19:57] <ubuntu> Do i have to install the new one then or whats that really
[19:58] <binarylooks> ubuntu: it means here will be security updates for it, there is a nice explanation on the wiki. let me look
[19:58] <poseidon> ubuntu, it means updates will be made by cononical until 2011
[19:58] <ubuntu> Yeah i got it now :)
[19:59] <ubuntu> All right, So what's the difference between RED HAT Ubuntu and Mandriva ? I'm a beginner
[19:59] <poseidon> Anyone know what version of kde is supposed to be bundled with 10.04?
[19:59] <binarylooks> poseidon: whatever will be out when lucid releases
[19:59] <binarylooks> poseidon: probably 4.4.2
[19:59] <poseidon> k, thanks
[19:59] <binarylooks> poseidon: then there will be updates during the lucid lifecycle
[20:00] <poseidon> I'm going to go ahead and install the alpha 3 build now :)
[20:00] <binarylooks> ubuntu: the differences become less every year.
[20:00] <ubuntu> Why is that ?
[20:00] <ubuntu> I mean the same with windows these days !
[20:00] <binarylooks> ubuntu: its mostly behind the scenes differences and differences in versions of software that ships with releases
[20:01] <binarylooks> everybody uses gnome or kde so the desktop is kind of fixed. some distros add their own stuff like the ubuntu music store or things like that
[20:01] <nightrid3r> ubuntu: redhat uses older versions of software and is more aiming at enterprises
[20:02] <ubuntu> nighttrid3r: What's ubuntu for really ? i mean it's what i don't get it
[20:03] <ubuntu> Why ubuntu is called Kubuntu ? I mean its the same OS or ? is it /
[20:04] <nightrid3r> ubuntu = gnome desktop kubuntu = same with KDE desktop
[20:04] <ubuntu> And WHATS KDE ? then
[20:04] <nightrid3r> its a desktop
[20:05] <ubuntu> It's like Aero theme in Vista or ?
[20:05] <nightrid3r> no, its what you see on your screen, menu's windows and icons
[20:05] <ubuntu> Are the ubuntu's command woth using it ?
[20:05] <Kage> ubuntu: think of KDE as explore.exe + AERO
[20:05] <ubuntu> Yeah the complete desktop
[20:06] <ubuntu> Yeah good KAGE, now i got that :)
[20:06] <ubuntu> Thanks :)
[20:06] <ubuntu> That was quick and nice explaning there
[20:07] <Kage> well... technically, applications that come like KDE, could be related to applications that come with windows... like paint, minesweeper, notepad, etc
[20:07] <ubuntu> Yeah
[20:08] <Kage> though, the important thing to know, is KDE is the background, the thing that puts the title bar on windows, the panel, etc...
[20:08] <ubuntu> SO what exactly is the different between Kubuntu, Just the KDE ?
[20:08] <Kage> ubuntu: you can think of ubuntu as a core (I.E. system software) like the kernel, package manager, etc
[20:09] <Kage> KDE runs ontop of the ubuntu core
[20:09] <ubuntu> Aha
[20:09] <Kage> making it kubuntu
[20:09] <ubuntu> Oh !
[20:09] <Kage> while normal ubuntu uses Gnome (a alternative to KDE)
[20:09] <ubuntu> Hey, DOes anyone knows which application runs dreambox ? cause i heard its on Linux
[20:10] <Kage> whats dreambox?
[20:10] <ubuntu> Gnome i know where that thing is ! :$ (i'm new to it so)
[20:10] <ubuntu> Dreambox ? the satalite receiever based on Linux OS !
[20:10] <ubuntu> Its a. CCAM
[20:10] <ubuntu> Based ! so for Card sharing
[20:11] <Kage> ubuntu: most likely, if its custom hardware, they have a custom version of Linux supporting it
[20:11] <ubuntu> Yeah that's right
[20:11] <ubuntu> But i mean how do they share all those channels ? really
[20:11] <ubuntu> By setting up a server
[20:11] <Kage> channels?
[20:11] <Kage> IDK...
[20:12] <Kage> this channel is for kubuntu support
[20:12] <ubuntu> oopss
[20:12] <ubuntu> Sorry :)
[20:12] <Kage> I don't even know what a dreambox is, much less what it does and how it works
[20:12] <ubuntu> haha okay :)
[20:12] <ubuntu> I am not on Kbuntu so :$
[20:14] <ubuntu> Are there any third party softwares ? for it or ?
[20:15] <Kage> for what?
[20:15] <ubuntu> Only those in updates and software center
[20:15] <ubuntu> I mean any kinda
[20:15] <Kage> ...
[20:15] <ubuntu> Ahhh
[20:16] <ubuntu> Can i install Adobe Photoshop CS4 on this  ? the one i used to use on Windows ?
[20:17] <Kage> ubuntu: there is a program called wine that allows you to run some windows programs on Linux.   I think all versions of Ps work with it
[20:17] <ubuntu> Yeah actually i just downloaded it today :)
[20:17] <ubuntu> Someone told me here
[20:17] <ubuntu> so
[20:17] <ubuntu> :)
[20:18] <ubuntu> What's the best Windows Live Messenger ? for ubuntu ? Any help on that
[20:18] <Kage> If your using kubuntu, use kopete.  If your using ubuntu, use pidgin
[20:19] <Grillost> Hi, how can i do knetworkmanager starts again in system startup?
[20:19] <Kage> ubuntu: according to the wine website, Ps CS4 probably won't work.
[20:19] <tj___> gimp is a good alternative
[20:20] <Kage> however, there is a alternative program, called GIMP, which while many people don't think its as good as Ps, a lot of other people do like it.
[20:20] <Kage> and it is free
[20:20] <Kage> and open source
[20:20] <tj___> its not as good as ps
[20:20] <tj___> but as good as you can get i think for free
[20:21] <ubuntu> Back
[20:21] <ubuntu> Thanks
[20:21] <ubuntu> Is it in there software center ?
[20:21] <tj___> yes it is
[20:21] <ubuntu> Lemme see
[20:21] <ubuntu> tj
[20:21] <Kage> tj___: IMO, something being better or worst is a matter of opinion.
[20:21] <ubuntu> hhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
[20:21] <ubuntu> YEah
[20:22] <tj___> kage: that is true
[20:22] <ubuntu> It's  GNU paint ?
[20:22] <ubuntu> this ?
[20:22] <Kage> Personally, I think 40% or so of people that don't like GIMP, is most likely because they are not use to it, and are more familiar with Ps
[20:22] <ubuntu> Yes Kage i guess you are right, This seems MSPAINT !
[20:23] <Kage> ubuntu: GNU paint is not the same as GIMP
[20:23] <tj___> MSPAINT works good under wine too
[20:23] <Kage> lol
[20:23] <ubuntu> Oh actually its already installed !
[20:23] <ubuntu> :$
[20:23] <Kage> all those trash programs that come with windows works fine on wine
[20:23] <Grillost> someone knows how to start knetworkmanager in system startup again?
[20:23] <ubuntu> Oh under wine ! really
[20:24] <Kage> Grillost: you need to add it to the startup session
[20:24] <tj___> now kage, you have to admit, there are SOME good programs for windows. especially gamming.
[20:24] <ubuntu> haha well who's the one for support here ?
[20:24] <ubuntu> KAGE ? you ?
[20:25] <Kage> ubuntu: nobody is paid for support here... we all just help with what we can
[20:25] <ubuntu> Oh that's nice of you all ! :)
[20:25] <Kage> tj___: no doubt.  Though I have a moral obligation to only use open source software.
[20:26] <ubuntu> Hey, Is it true Linux is always been used for hacking purpose ?
[20:26] <ubuntu> :)
[20:26] <ubuntu> Doesnt really seem !
[20:26] <Kage> ubuntu: first... change your nick name... type:   /nick <NewNickname>
[20:26] <ubuntu> Okay wait
[20:27] <Ahmed> Now ?
[20:27] <Ahmed> :)
[20:27] <Kage> secondly, hacking is a long tradition of Linux... Linux was created by hackers, for hackers.     Person who cracks passwords, encryptions, etc
[20:28] <tj___> guest52590, are you using a live cd?
[20:28] <Kage> Guest52590: with /nick <name>
[20:28] <AhmedBH> Yeah
[20:28] <AhmedBH> I see
[20:29] <AhmedBH> :)
[20:29] <itscrimetime> how can i get my alsa from mono to stero
[20:29] <AhmedBH> So whats so especial here in this ubuntu really that you can be so much genius at ! Oh a hacker
[20:29] <AhmedBH> :)
[20:29] <Kage> and yes... many crackers do use Linux, mainly for the amount of control it gives you
[20:30] <AhmedBH> Like how, May i know how to start :)
[20:30] <Kage> itscrimetime: kmixer?
[20:30] <itscrimetime> i tried kmixer
[20:30] <Kage> AhmedBH: you want to become a cracker?
[20:30] <itscrimetime> it only shows master as mono
[20:30] <tj___> there is only three ways to get the kind of control you get with linux in windows, HACK,CRACK, and lots of money.
[20:30] <AhmedBH> Yeah i think so :) but who is there to help me anyways
[20:31] <AhmedBH> HUH HUH !
[20:31] <AhmedBH> Kage: Are you serious ?
[20:31] <Schenker> bye
[20:32] <Kage> AhmedBH: I will not help you become a cracker...
[20:32] <AhmedBH> I mean i don't know a thing about it :) I even just installed This thing today i am talking to you guys on
[20:32] <AhmedBH> Oh
[20:32] <AhmedBH> :)
[20:32] <lovre> hi all
[20:32] <AhmedBH> I mean at least give me a start :)
[20:32] <AhmedBH> Hi !
[20:32] <lovre> i have a plasmoid that is in source, how do i compile it now? And what do i need to have installed for this
[20:33] <Kage> AhmedBH: if you want to become more proficient in GNU/Linux, I suggest you start reading tutorials
[20:33] <Kage> lovre: type ./configure in its directory
[20:33] <Kage> then make && sudo make install
[20:33] <AhmedBH> umm :)
[20:34] <tj___> hey AhmedBH, you should learn html and some programming. that will give you a start.
[20:34] <AhmedBH> I mean I am good at windows ! Anyone knows that
[20:34] <AhmedBH> Yeah HTML thats it Tj
[20:35] <AhmedBH> Does keylogger works on linux ?
[20:35] <tj___> nope
[20:35] <Kage> tj___: IMO its easier and more useful to learn your way around a command prompt before you start learning programming
[20:35] <AhmedBH> Cause even tho WIndows 7 is been infected by this thing
[20:35] <AhmedBH> I got a mailbox there are 10,000 emails and couting
[20:35] <tj___> yes it is
[20:35] <AhmedBH> SO just !! Its working awesome
[20:35] <AhmedBH> :)
[20:35] <Kage> AhmedBH: you could write a keylogger for Linux, though to be effective it would most likely have to run in the kernel, which requires a lot of permissions to install
[20:36] <AhmedBH> Oh
[20:36] <tj___> i am asuming that if you are learning programming, you already know your way around the terminal.
[20:36] <Kage> tj___: I highly doubt he does
[20:36] <tj___> i know
[20:36] <AhmedBH> Yeah but i mean i'm here to see what's the difference between Windows And Linux :) (Especially Ubuntu)
[20:36] <AhmedBH> umm...Something wrong ?
[20:36] <lovre> Kage: it says: bash: ./configure: No such file or directory
[20:37] <Daughain> AhmedBH: Linux is better.:P
[20:37] <Kage> lovre: ok, just try typing make
[20:37] <Kage> lovre: not all programs need to be configured
[20:37] <lovre> Kage: make: *** No targets specified and no makefile found.  Stop.
[20:37] <lovre> Kage: maybe im in the wrong folder... i dont know
[20:37] <Kage> lovre: ...
[20:37] <Kage> maybe
[20:37] <lovre> Kage: or maybe i dont have compilers installed...
[20:37] <AhmedBH> Daughain: Umm reason ?
[20:37] <tj___> lovre, try config first, then make
[20:38] <Kage> tj___: he said [15:36] <lovre> Kage: it says: bash: ./configure: No such file or directory
[20:38] <tj___> or configure
[20:38] <buckethead> AhmedBH: Cost is a major factor..  I charted a 40F core temp drop simply by switching from windows to Jaunty.
[20:39] <lovre> Kage: it is this that im trying to inastall, maybe you can take a look? http://kde-look.org/content/show.php/Eventlist?content=107779
[20:39] <AhmedBH> Daughain: That's nice explaning !
[20:39] <buckethead> I can customize a system to meet my needs much easier with linux, and am now completely legal software on all systems.
[20:39] <Kage> AhmedBH: I suggest you start here: http://gd.tuwien.ac.at/linuxcommand.org/learning_the_shell.php
[20:39] <Daughain> AhmedBH: *Then* we get into the flexibility of the OS...And, the fact that it effectivly doesnt get virus'.....
[20:39] <Daughain> AhmedBH: Ya, that first fact alone blew my mind.
[20:39] <AhmedBH> Windows, 7 isn't bad as XP and Vista is, (Only if you really know how to USE it) But like 80% are infected with some types of viruses and just tonns of crap, I mean
[20:40] <Kage> lovre: do you have KDE 4.3?
[20:40] <AhmedBH> I am an old user on Vista
[20:40] <tj___> oh , plasmoids,
[20:40] <Daughain> AhmedBH: Win7 starter crashed the 1st day OOB.......I dont consider it any improvement.
[20:40] <AhmedBH> Kage: lemme see
[20:40] <lovre> Kage: yes, 4.3.2
[20:40] <AhmedBH> hahahaha
[20:40] <AhmedBH> Really ?
[20:40] <AhmedBH> GOD
[20:40] <pandamonium> what's going on with the upgrades?
[20:40]  * Daughain nods.
[20:40] <pandamonium> i've upgraded, totally lost my xserver so decided on a clean install
[20:40] <AhmedBH> Hey NIce
[20:40] <AhmedBH> Kage
[20:41] <AhmedBH> :)
[20:41] <Daughain> AhmedBH: Join #Kubuntu-offtopic if ya wanna chat about this some more.
[20:41] <AhmedBH> Nice thing to start really
[20:41] <AhmedBH> Off topic ? whats that for
[20:41] <Daughain> Topics like this, which dont involve discussions of kubuntu problems.=)
[20:41] <pandamonium> downloaded 9.10 and installed it, ran updates and now it won't even boot up
[20:41] <pandamonium> i get "udevadm trigger not permitted while udev unconfigured"
[20:42] <pandamonium> "cannot open /dev/mem"
[20:42] <AhmedBH> HOw to get to another rooms such as Kbuntu offtopic ?
[20:42] <AhmedBH> By myself ?
[20:42] <pandamonium> is kubuntu broke?
[20:42] <Kage> AhmedBH: /join #channel
[20:42] <tj___> nope kubuntu is not broke
[20:42] <Kage> pandamonium: did you restart before the update was finished by chance?
[20:43] <pandamonium> well the update manager told me it was all done
[20:43] <pandamonium> and then the whole system hung
[20:43] <pandamonium> i had to hard reboot
[20:43] <tj___> what kind of computer do you have pandamonium?
[20:43] <Kage> meh.... what type of hardware are you on?
[20:44] <pandamonium> a smashed to bits one if it doesn't stop annoying me
[20:44] <tj___> is it an old one?
[20:44] <pandamonium> it's a ... asus k8 nvidia chipset
[20:44] <pandamonium> with a athlon 64
[20:44] <pandamonium> 1.5gb of ram
[20:44] <Kage> its 64bit?
[20:45] <pandamonium> it will be 640 bit by the time i'm finished with it
[20:45] <pandamonium> but yeah
[20:45] <Kage> pandamonium: are you trying to install the 32bit version, or 64bit version of 9.10?
[20:45] <pandamonium> 64 bit
[20:45] <pandamonium> and it was a clean install
[20:46] <pandamonium> because the previous upgrade lost my xserver on reboot
[20:46] <Kage> pandamonium: I would maybe try the 32bit, and see if you get the same issue...
[20:46] <tj___> try the 32 pandamonium? just for kicks .
[20:46] <tj___> i have problems with 64 on mine
[20:46] <Kage> tj___: we think a like...
[20:46] <tj___> and i have no problems with 32
[20:46] <pandamonium> hmmmm, everything was fine when i was on the .04
[20:46] <tj___> i have noticed that kage
[20:46] <Kage> :P
[20:46] <tj___> wierd
[20:46] <Kage> yeah, it is
[20:47] <pandamonium> that means downloading another cd image
[20:47] <Kage> pandamonium: yeah
[20:47] <tj___> yes it does
[20:47] <pandamonium> that means *another* 5 minutes wait

[20:48]  * pandamonium wonders what the point of 64 bit processors is
[20:48] <Kage> you can download a 700MB ISO in 5 mins :\
[20:48] <Kage> pandamonium: to extend the length of time_t
[20:48] <pandamonium> yeah, got a 16Mb/s connection
[20:48] <Kage> o_O
[20:48]  * Kage steals pandamonium's internet connection and hides it
[20:49] <tj___> takes me about 15 to 20 mins
[20:49] <tj___> wow
[20:49] <tj___> wish i could do it 5
[20:49] <Kage> takes me... like.... 2-3 hours :(
[20:49] <tj___> 2 to 3 hrs
[20:50] <tj___> i hope its dial up
[20:50] <Kage> DSL...
[20:50] <tj___> i would be switching to cable
[20:50] <pandamonium> crikey! you being traffic managed?
[20:51] <Kage> well... if I maintain my max download speed, I could download the image in 1.3 hours
[20:51] <Kage> but a lot of times, it jumps between 50% and 100% of my max download speed
[20:51] <pandamonium> mine seems quite steady
[20:52] <pandamonium> it's max 24Mb/s but i was on about 19-20 until i moved half a mile further from the exchange
[20:52] <Kage> I really should look into changing ISPs
[20:53] <pandamonium> you know what, linux has changed little since i first dabbled some 10-12 years ago
[20:53] <Kage> I have had this one for like, 15 years
[20:53] <Kage> pandamonium: ummm... your kidding right?
[20:53] <pandamonium> it still frustrates the living daylights out of me
[20:53] <Kage> oh, lol
[20:53] <pandamonium> then again so does the WinDOS
[20:54] <Kage> All software is made by humans.    Thus all software sucks.
[20:54] <pandamonium> why can't we all just use CP/M and flashing green block cursors?
[20:54] <netdaemon> >_>
[20:55] <pandamonium> ah... pr0n... i forgot that
[20:55] <Kage> pandamonium: we could go back to ascii porn :P
[20:55] <tj___> we can, just pull out one them old apple computers from way back
[20:55] <tj___> apple one, i think
[20:55] <pandamonium> 1.7MB/s i'm downloading at
[20:56] <pandamonium> apple lisa
[20:56] <|john|> hello all
[20:56] <Kage> pandamonium: thats more then 10 times faster then mine...
[20:56] <Kage> most I ever get is 150KB/s
[20:56] <pandamonium> i'm paying £18 pm
[20:56] <pandamonium> plus line rental
[20:57] <Kage> I pay $30 pm
[20:57] <pandamonium> i'm at 87% at the moment
[20:57] <Kage> v_v
[20:57]  * Kage moves to Europe
[20:57] <pandamonium> is that aussie dollars?
[20:57] <Kage> USD
[20:58] <tj___> kage, cable is just 10 dollars more
[20:58] <pandamonium> man... do they send wimminz round to clean your house?
[20:58] <tj___> and faster i think
[20:58] <Kage> wimminz?
[20:58] <tj___> least in my experiance it is
[20:58] <Kage> well... £18 is not that far from $30
[20:59] <Kage> only about 10% cheaper
[20:59] <Kage> but... still... its 10% cheaper, and >10 times faster
[20:59] <pandamonium> well with line rental mine is almost £30 which is about $45 or so
[21:00] <Kage> its $45
[21:00] <Kage> yeah
[21:00]  * Kage <3 Google
[21:00] <tj___> what is wimminz? pandamonium. cant help but wonder
[21:01] <pandamonium> women ;)
[21:01] <tj___> ahhh
[21:01] <Kage> http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=wimminz
[21:02] <pandamonium> hahah i can't believe it's been put on there
[21:02] <Kage> lol
[21:03] <pandamonium> but yeah, it's either a) females who're destined to be housewives or b) those feministy types
[21:03] <pandamonium> it takes almost as long to burn as it does to download
[21:03] <Kage> IMO, that is sexist :P   BBL
[21:04] <pandamonium> yeah it is rather
[21:04]  * netdaemon needs to get a few more flash drives so he stops burning discs....
[21:05] <pandamonium> i've had 2 16GB ones that i have 'loaned' to people and subsequently never seen again
[21:05] <netdaemon> i'v got a few spindles to go through
[21:06] <netdaemon> well typically i just give people the iso and have them burn it themselves if they want a copy
[21:06] <pandamonium> i think it's about time we were born with usb connections on our fingers
[21:07] <pandamonium> and SDHC slots on our forearms
[21:07] <netdaemon> would be nice, but people might steal our fingers because they have better storage capabilities than theres :(
[21:07] <netdaemon> i'd like esata fingertips that link with my brain :D
[21:08] <pandamonium> yes i can just see wives going astray because some other bloke has a larger storage capacity
[21:14] <tj___> ok, the fall apart thingy just isnt working. i clearly have it checked and its not working.
[21:15] <pandamonium> hmmm the 32 bit installation disc is chucking up loads of errors
[21:15] <Wolfcastle> hello
[21:15] <Wolfcastle> how can i stop knetworkmanager from starting automatically?
[21:15] <Wolfcastle> i want to switch to the gnome version
[21:17] <[mors]> my web cam seems to be properly detected by it is not mapped to /dev/video0. Any clues ?
[21:23] <pandamonium> right reformatting now and installing the 32 bit
[21:39] <lacysinx>  i need help with my sound can someone help me
[21:41] <WaltzingAlong> lacysinx: the 1st issue being getting out what the problem seems to be
[21:41] <lacysinx> well i have USB speakers and  im not haven no sound at all
[21:50] <blueyed> what's the equivalent to "System→Administration→Hardware Drivers" in Kubuntu?
[21:51] <netdaemon> Applications -> System -> Hardware Drivers
[21:51] <netdaemon> from the kicker
[21:52] <pandamonium> hmmmm, this installation has been on 80% for ages
[21:57] <pandamonium> i'm giving up
[21:59] <WaltzingAlong> 8`
[21:59] <WaltzingAlong> 81
[22:00] <pandamonium> hmmmmm, i think my problems lie with my hardware
[22:00] <pandamonium> something's not correct
[22:01] <pandamonium> it hung at 80% so i rebooted and it hung on the language selection splash of the installation CD
[22:04] <dusty> hello
[22:04] <dusty> hello i was wondering where wine installs my programs
[22:05] <netdaemon> ~/.wine/drive_c/....
[22:05]  * netdaemon too lazy to type out the rest
[22:05] <dusty> ok
[22:08] <ilumi> i have a harddrive with ntfs, i can see it dolphin but when i click on it it says "permission denied, refusing to mount"
[22:08] <ilumi> how can i fix this
[22:09] <dusty> where is ~
[22:09] <ilumi> ~ is home
[22:09] <dusty> ok
[22:10] <dusty> there it is thanks
[22:10] <dusty> my file was hidden
[22:11] <ilumi> yup
[22:11] <WaltzingAlong> ilumi: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[22:12] <Kage> Im in love with this video: http://www.xvideos.com/video120201/sarah_blake_forced_orgasms
[22:12] <Kage> errrrr... ignore that :(
[22:12] <Kage> :\
[22:14] <ilumi> WaltzingAlong: thanks, will check it
[22:14] <judgen> What channel is the channel for asking about hte kde3 remix?
[22:14] <judgen> excuse my poor spelling.
[22:17] <WaltzingAlong> judgen: this one?
[22:17] <WaltzingAlong> !kde3
[22:19] <judgen> WaltzingAlong: yes, but i suppose they have a irc channel?
[22:21] <WaltzingAlong> judgen: check the link. i think support is via the mailing list
[22:23] <judgen> ok
[22:25] <judgen> 8.04 was hardy?
[22:25] <Logan_Lockwood> Hi
[22:25] <Logan_Lockwood> :)
[22:26] <WaltzingAlong> judgen: yeah
[22:33] <cvd> updates,updates and more updates , cheese
[22:33] <Scunizi> Where in the menu's do I add a printer K > Computer > System Settings > Printer Configuration shows what I have installed but doesn't have an option to add another.. I know I can "http://localhost:631" but I want to figure out the menu structure first.
[22:41] <axiom> looking for some sound advice about boxee
[22:48] <judgen> My sound stopped working... how odd.
[22:49] <axiom> @judgen: happens to me all the time.  tried 'sudo alsa force-reload'?
[22:50] <judgen> axiom: still nothing
[22:51] <judgen> kubuntu does not use pulseaudio, right?
[22:51] <axiom> god I don't know
[22:52] <axiom> sound is making me sad right now
[22:52] <axiom> not sure I am in a position to help you
[22:52] <axiom> I've been told both things
[22:54] <axiom> this may help you, though it is really outdated http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=205449
[22:56] <alessandro_> jkkj
[22:57] <racecar56> why does pidgin not show up in the indicator applet in kubuntu 9.10
[22:57] <racecar56> and if gnome is installed, it also gets the same problem
[22:57] <racecar56> but if i installed ubuntu from scratch and then installed KDE it would probably work
[22:59] <blueyed> racecar56: indicator applet? I know the one from kubuntu lucid only, where it's in the system tray.
[22:59] <blueyed> I have not installed pidgin, but it shows kopete in there.
[22:59] <racecar56> blueyed: it also can call it indicator display
[23:00] <blueyed> where is it? in the panel?
[23:00] <racecar56> blueyed: for me it's just to the left of the clock, this install is nearly default
[23:00] <racecar56> blueyed: this install is rather new because i was getting sick of the problem
[23:00] <racecar56> blueyed: but the new install didn't help :/
[23:00] <blueyed> ok, then I just don't have it, nor know what you mean. sry.
[23:03] <judgen> still no luck with the sound...
[23:03] <ilumi> judgen: did you try to see if its not muted
[23:06] <racecar56> i just left because i was trying to close the buddy list on pidgin but i wasn't supposed to do that, because it would close pidgin instead of going into the indicator applet
[23:06] <racecar56> how annoying
[23:06] <judgen> ilumi: Olldy enough, when i unmuted the mic channel, it started to work.
[23:07] <judgen> oddly*
[23:07] <judgen> oh well, as long as it works. im happy.
[23:07] <racecar56> :)
[23:09] <judgen> ok back to an old problem, how to get firefox 3.5 instead of 3.6
[23:10] <racecar56> i got pidgin in the indicator applet!
[23:10] <racecar56> i enabled libnotify popups
[23:14] <judgen> where do i set desktop effects for kwin?
[23:14] <ilumi> judgen: why do you want old firefox
[23:14] <judgen> ilumi: beacuse of my myriad of add-ons that does not support 3.6+
[23:14] <axiom> anybody use boxee?
[23:15] <ilumi> judgen: okey, i only use noscript and adblock, those pretty much work in every version
[23:17] <judgen> yes they do, but i use mouse gestures and alot of other stuff. Like template completer.
[23:23] <shamwow> is anyone available to do work with me in private chat on my Kabuntu and KDE4 issues that I am having
[23:23] <shamwow> i am a noob
[23:25] <cvd> why on kubuntu i cant choose 'Find Best server'  but in ubuntu i can
[23:27] <cvd> ZZz
[23:27] <shamwow> is there anyone here can help out a noob?
[23:29] <BluesKaj-Laptop> !pm | shamwow
[23:29] <shamwow> check thx ubottu
[23:30] <BluesKaj-Laptop> shamwow, we're not here to help in an exclusive manner
[23:30] <shamwow> i am using a spare computer |vista/mirc| to do my chatting
[23:30] <shamwow> i have kubuntu 9.10 w/ KDE 4 and I can not get wireless to work
[23:35] <cvd> shamwow:  ask on ubuntu
[23:35] <cvd> shamwow: if you wanna answers
[23:36] <shamwow> i downloaded wicd, wlassistant, and wpa_supplicant but I don't think I am proficient enough to get these installed correctly
[23:39] <BluesKaj-Laptop> shamwow, what wifi setup hardware do you have ?
[23:40] <shamwow> cable modem to router wireless to labtop (need more specifics)  | honestly i can't get the wireless tab in knetworkmanager to be highlighted
[23:41] <BluesKaj-Laptop> shamwow, have you installed wicd?
[23:44] <shamwow> i guess i installed wicd... i mean i ran it like it said, but honestly I am not 100% sure how to run the app
[23:45] <BluesKaj-Laptop> shamwow, if you installed wicd then network-manager is disabled
[23:46] <BluesKaj-Laptop> shamwow, alt f2  , wicd-client
[23:47] <shamwow> ok i didn't install it correctly
[23:48] <shamwow> can anyone walk me through installation proceedures
[23:48] <BluesKaj-Laptop> shamwow, did you use a package manager ?
[23:49] <shamwow> no
[23:49] <BluesKaj-Laptop> how then ?
[23:52] <shamwow> python cmd
[23:52] <BluesKaj-Laptop> shamwow, open a terminal , sudo apt-get install wicd
[23:54] <shamwow> in the same folder that i extracted the file to?
[23:54] <shamwow> the response I get is E: Couldn't find package wicd
[23:57] <BluesKaj-Laptop> shamwow, it's easier if you open your package manger and enable all your sources , then you'll have access to even more apps
[23:57] <shamwow> where can I go to find instructions on how to do what you just said?
[23:59] <valdenir> ae
[23:59] <valdenir> como


[12:48]  * enyc meows
[18:18]  * enyc meows
[18:18] <enyc> hrrm...... I need to figure out 21.04 changes of late...
[18:19] <enyc> why I have a pile of libreoffige and btrfs-progs packages suddenly saying  'package no longer needed'  uerr  i.e. apt autoremove


[00:50] <mup> Bug #1842524 opened: [2.6, UI] Composing machine via UI does not appear in pod machine list <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1842524>


[00:38] <Sarvatt> mlankhorst: nope thats too recent, armhf has been broken over a month
[00:39] <Sarvatt> plus the patch is from our packages :)
[07:09] <mlankhorst> Sarvatt: it's the patch we used for fixing up 9.1 branch :P
[07:44] <mlankhorst> ah well lets see if I can build mesa on panda without running into oom killer
[07:54] <RAOF> Hah!
[07:54] <mlankhorst> over nfs, no less!
[08:22] <tjaalton> hmm, some kernel regression on intel
[08:22] <tjaalton> in -13
[09:06] <mlankhorst> awesome
[10:02] <mlankhorst> oh indeed mesa is a different error
[11:07] <mlankhorst> what do we need from mesa on arm though? I can only imagine softpipe being useful in it's current state
[11:09] <mlankhorst> maybe once robclark's free arduino driver works that would change
[11:09] <ogra_> swrat has always worked ... just urlta slow
[11:09] <ogra_> *swrast
[11:10] <ogra_> bah
[11:10] <ogra_> *ultra
[11:10] <mlankhorst> I know but is there any point building anything but swrast?
[11:10] <ogra_> theoretically llvmpipe ... but last time i tried it was unusable
[11:10] <ogra_> no idea if there were any improvements since quantal
[11:11] <mlankhorst> llvmpipe in general, or llvmpipe on arm?
[11:11] <ogra_> on arm indeed
[11:11] <mlankhorst> I don't know, lets see..
[11:11] <ogra_> my x86 machines have proper drivers :)
[11:12] <ogra_> (most of my arm ones too ... but most of them arent distributable ...)
[11:12] <mlankhorst> nothing arm specific in llvmpipe
[11:12] <mlankhorst> so it would have to be in llvm-3.2
[11:13] <ogra_> then i doubt it makes sense to have it right now ...
[11:13] <ogra_> after all most of the arm world will likely be Mir'ed andyway and use android drivers soon
[11:14] <ogra_> i think we'll only keep the tegra3 binary stuff around in the long term ... for desktop reference images on the nexus7
[11:14] <ogra_> (FSVO long term .... read that as  until 14.04)
[11:15] <mlankhorst> I want to be able to run without blobs, even if the result may not be as performant
[11:15] <ogra_> as performant ... heh
[11:15] <ogra_> usually its unusable ...
[11:16] <ogra_> (like an animated slideshow)
[11:16]  * mlankhorst had to disable smp because it kept bugging :/
[11:17] <ogra_> on your panda ?
[11:17] <mlankhorst> yeah
[11:17] <mlankhorst> black screen, then everything gone
[11:17] <ogra_> hmm, what release ?
[11:17] <mlankhorst> precise
[11:17] <ogra_> hmm, havent seen such issues on mine with precise
[11:18] <mlankhorst> do you have the ti-omap ppa enabled?
[11:18] <ogra_> ugh, no
[11:18] <ogra_> using the in archive stuff indeed
[11:18] <ogra_> the ppa is only intresting for video codecs ...
[11:19] <ogra_> which we cant have in the archive due to incompatible gstreamer patches
[11:19] <mlankhorst> :D
[11:19] <mlankhorst> it enables some other stuff like bluetooth support iirc
[11:20] <ogra_> well, it also ships a TI kernel that might have breakage we dont know about
[11:20] <ogra_> (like SMP perhaps ?)
[11:20] <mlankhorst> probably
[11:20] <mlankhorst> could also be the powervr drivers
[11:20] <ogra_> well, panda desktop is on the way to be out to death anyway ...
[11:20] <ogra_> s/out/put/
[11:21] <mlankhorst> yeah but as long as it's alive it's useful for testing mechanics on arm
[11:22] <mlankhorst> tjaalton: hah my fix worked
[11:23] <mlankhorst> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5624961/
[11:23] <mlankhorst> fixes building on armhf
[11:23] <mlankhorst> no idea about armel
[11:23] <mlankhorst> do we still support that?
[11:30] <mlankhorst> dh_install: libgl1-mesa-dri missing files (dri/usr/lib/arm-linux-gnueabihf/libllvmradeon*.so), aborting
[11:30] <mlankhorst> oops, almost :)
[11:43] <ogra_> mlankhorst, nexus7 is better for testing mechanics
[11:44] <mlankhorst> except I leave my panda on 24/7 ;)
[11:46] <ogra_> pandas are great as builders ... but due to the driver situation we'll drop them soon
[11:47] <ogra_> for UI testing the nvidia stuff simply works better and causes way less maintenance
[11:47] <mlankhorst> yeah but the wired network is nice, I keep all my stuff on nfs
[11:47] <mlankhorst> and doing that over wireless is crazy
[11:47] <ogra_> yeah, true
[11:48]  * ogra_ would love to see us supporting chromebooks ... but there the driver situation is even worse ...
[11:48] <ogra_> you would have USB 3.0 though
[11:49] <ogra_> so it pfferse some decent disk throuoghput ...
[11:49] <ogra_> *offers
[11:53] <mlankhorst> ok armhf built..
[11:57] <mlankhorst> raring no longer supports armel right?
[12:00] <ogra_> support was dropped in precise
[12:01] <ogra_> ( we still left it building alongside but it wasnt an official arch ... with quantal the archive completely vanished)
[12:01] <mlankhorst> looks like quantal still had some.. https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/quantal/armel
[12:01] <mlankhorst> raring otoh 0
[12:02] <mlankhorst> ah well I'm not going to worry about ftbfs then, I'll just disable building llvm-3.2 and mesa renamed for armel if it hapens
[12:02] <ogra_> yeah, just ignore it
[12:02] <ogra_> we dont encourage anyone to ever use armel :)
[12:03] <mlankhorst> but andwoooidddd
[12:03] <tjaalton> mlankhorst: yeah, sounds like a valid fix..
[12:03] <ogra_> what about android ? :)
[12:03] <mlankhorst> tjaalton: yeah I should probably figure out why st_gl_api_create is in libmesagallium, but meh!
[12:16] <mlankhorst> oh fun, I get to run piglit again 6x
[19:22] <fexilal> Greetings
[19:22] <fexilal> are the nvidia 310 series drivers going to be included soon?
[19:44] <bjsnider> included in what
[19:51] <fexilal> in ubuntu-x-swat
[19:55] <mlankhorst> isn't it already in the archive though?
[20:20] <fexilal> nope, the latest version in the archive (that I can find) is 304.84
[20:22] <bjsnider> fexilal, search for nvidia-experimental-310
[20:22] <bjsnider> you have to have hardware that is not too old
[20:26] <bjsnider> no support for hardware before the geforce 8