[06:02] <xander> zouzou85:thanks
[06:02] <variant> berent: because the voice component is proprietry. use jabber protocal for google chat
[06:02] <zouzou85> sure thing
[06:02] <Marupa> Anyone have any clues as to how to fix this?
[06:02] <puff> Amrog: I find that I have problems with suspend/hibernate when I have too much memory usage.
[06:02] <task0> puff: cool! :)
[06:02] <variant> puff: enable some extra swap space
[06:02] <puff> Amrog: Typically it's my firefox process.  So I kill that and boom.
[06:02] <tehmasp> berent, http://www.google.com/support/talk/bin/answer.py?answer=24073
[06:02] <nomasteryoda|w> puff, also with berly running
[06:02] <puff> variant: Yeah, I figured that.
[06:02] <ferret_0567> Does dmesg list IRQ sharing and conflicts, or is there another program for listing IRQ's that I can use?
[06:03] <zouzou85> i am trying to add config editor thru main menu but i can't select or deselect, Any ideas?
[06:03] <nomasteryoda|w> tehmasp, thanks
[06:03] <puff> variant: I don't have the disk to spare, at the moment, have to work on that.
[06:03] <J^son> I need some help in setting up a printer on a network. the printer is connected directly to my ubuntu machine and works fine there... I have anoter machine running windows connected to the network through a router. the windows box sees the printer but can't access it to print. Can someone help me please?
[06:03] <puff> variant:
[06:03] <sb73542> hmmm, any NetworkManager gurus here?
[06:03] <puff> variant: I took the 60GB 7200rpm laptop drive instead of the 80GB 5400rpm.
[06:03] <Amrog> puff, I will try to kill firefox
[06:03] <ferret_0567> I use NetworkManager, it works perfectly
[06:04] <variant> puff: just your total ram plus a little is sufficient swap, ignore anyone that says double ram == swap size
[06:04] <variant> puff: as that rule of thumb applied only when computers had 32mb ram
[06:04] <ferret_0567> If you need a connection applet, try network-manager-gnome package
[06:04] <puff> variant: I have 2 gigs of RAM :-).
[06:04] <D2DChat> lol, if you guys told me the top and the bottom were draggable
[06:04] <puff> variant: Does swap get used for storing the hibernate image?
[06:04] <D2DChat> i could've figured this out myself...
[06:04] <variant> puff: unlucky.. i bet you wouldnt really notice much difference between the speeds
[06:04] <variant> puff: yes
[06:05] <variant> puff: so you need about 2.2GB swap then for safe susp/hibernate
[06:05] <Marupa> Any ideas on why my nvidia drivers won't load?
 none
[06:05] <Marupa> (nvidia in xorg.conf, not nv)
[06:05] <puff> variant: eh, maybe not, but I do a lot of programming, I talked to a lot of linux hackers and programmers and they said the 7200rpm difference would be noticiable.
[06:05] <variant> puff: i'm not an expert though and I don't know if your swap is used for suspend to ram or not
[06:05] <variant> puff: fair enough
[06:05] <nomasteryoda|w> Marupa, depends on model of card
[06:05] <Bogaurd> how does one go about changing libnotify themes?
[06:05] <nomasteryoda|w> you install nvidia-glx?
[06:05] <Marupa> non-accelerated video is crap >.<  And it worked in Edgy.
[06:05] <variant> puff: depends what your doing with it i suppose..
[06:06] <Marupa> I upgraded from edgy to feisty.
[06:06] <OB12> I am just sitting in the living room and I can see the cdrom disappear from the desktop. I put the eject -t command and it closes and randomly it opens again. Im not doing anything but watching it openning again.
[06:06] <Marupa> and then it didn't work.
[06:06] <puff> variant: By definition, if I have 2GB + swap, then my total memory usage can be significnatly more than 2.2GB, or I'm not properly understanding what swap is.
[06:06] <nomasteryoda|w> Marupa, here too
[06:06] <variant> Marupa: you need to recompile/reinstall the nvidia drivers if you change the kernel
[06:06] <nomasteryoda|w> mine working fine...
[06:06] <variant> Marupa: which is what an upgrade will do (change the kernel)
[06:06] <puff> variant: I keep meaning to scrounge up a couple hundred bucks and buy a normal IPOD as a protable media drive.
[06:06] <variant> puff: yeah, it's all just virtual ram
[06:06] <variant> puff: virtual memory*
[06:06] <Marupa> variant: Do I need to uninstall the nvidia-glx, then reinstall?
[06:06] <nomasteryoda|w> Marupa, make sure the kernel matches the nvidia version
[06:07] <puff> variant: I have an 8gb nano as my actual carry-it-on-my-person mp3 player, I need a 30-80GB drive to hold the rest of my music, so it's not taking up laptop space.
[06:07] <variant> puff: get an archos instead.. already runs linux and you can install your own linux on it.. ipods are dead!
[06:07] <nomasteryoda|w> Marupa, "uname -r" in terminal
[06:07] <ferret_0567> Ah, now I see. cd into /proc/irq and type tree
[06:07] <D2DChat> im assuming that Ubuntu does not auto-detect wireless network cards, am I right?
[06:07] <nonuda> !automatix
[06:07] <ubotu> Automatix2 is a proprietary script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[06:07] <atarinox> is there some way to get a third mouse button working on a laptop?...i'd like to use it to scroll
[06:07] <berent> variant : It says it require ssl/tls for login and its not found
[06:07] <puff> Er 30-80GB ipod.
[06:07] <ferret_0567> if tree is not installed, it's because Ubuntu does not have it by default
[06:07] <puff> variant: nah, I had a 20GB archos, was really not happy with it.
[06:07] <Marupa> nomasteryoda|w, how do I choose which nvidia version?
[06:07] <nomasteryoda|w> puff, you can put Linux on ipod too
[06:07] <variant> berent: sorry, i don't use jabber
[06:08] <puff> variant: Didn't perform well, died and had to be replaced after much wrangling with archoos, then promptly died again.
[06:08] <variant> nomasteryoda|w: not the 2nd generation nano you can't (and probably never will be able to)
[06:08] <variant> puff: damn
[06:08] <puff> nomasteryoda|w: Not on a 5th gen ipod you can't.
[06:08] <puff> nomasteryoda|w: Encrypted firmware.
[06:08] <variant> puff: make your own..
[06:08] <sgtmattbaker> so has anyone looked at the DMCA?  it says it is legal to reverse engineer for compatibility purposes
[06:08] <nomasteryoda|w> puff, ok... well, archos are ok
[06:08] <variant> puff: suprisingly easy :D
[06:08] <ferret_0567> !language | variant
[06:08] <nomasteryoda|w> Neruos runs linux
[06:08] <ubotu> variant: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[06:08] <Gumby> I have a 2nd gen ipod with linux on it
[06:08] <OB12> anyone use realvnc?
[06:08] <berent> It says requires ssl/tls for login in gaim? nomasteryoda|w IntangibleLiquid tehmasp
[06:09] <variant> ferret_0567: huh?
[06:09] <tehmasp> berent, what says - where are you looking ?
[06:09] <variant> Gumby: 5th gen standard ipods don't support linux, 2nd gen nano don't support linux
[06:09] <variant> Gumby: all before do
[06:09] <J^son> I need some help in setting up a printer on a network. the printer is connected directly to my ubuntu machine and works fine there... I have anoter machine running windows connected to the network through a router. the windows box sees the printer but can't access it to print. Can someone help me please?
[06:09] <puff> Gumby: Mine's about 6 months old and was the hottest thing in ipodland when I bought it ("gee, for $50 more I can get 8 GB instead of 4GB?)
[06:09] <ferret_0567> please don't say cuss words
[06:10] <variant> ferret_0567: what did i say?
[06:10] <nomasteryoda|w> variant, good choice is the Samsung T9 ... with unofficial firmware supports ogg...
[06:10] <puff> variant: Ah, sorry, yeah, 2nd gen nano, not 5thgen ipod.
[06:10] <variant> it's not like i said microsoft or anything
[06:10] <berent> tehsmap : i followed steps of ur URL on Gaim it says ssl/tls authentication required to login and it is not found
[06:10] <DARKGuy> lol
[06:10] <nomasteryoda|w> better than nano
[06:10] <Gumby> ah, I misread... nano.   I have a 2nd gen ipod, not nano
[06:10] <variant> puff: 5th gen video doesn't support linux either, same reason as nano
[06:10] <nomasteryoda|w> berent, look in the package installer
[06:10] <nomasteryoda|w> for gaim encryption
[06:10] <ferret_0567> "(11:08:16 PM) variant:
[06:10] <ferret_0567> puff: damn"
[06:11] <variant> !ohmy | ferret_0567
[06:11] <ubotu> ferret_0567: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[06:11] <DARKGuy> XD
[06:11] <variant> ;) you asked for it
[06:11] <ferret_0567> lol, you turned it back around on me :-P
[06:11] <nomasteryoda|w> i like hoe efficient ubot u is
[06:11] <J^son> what media player do you recommend for use on Ubuntu to play mp3s?
[06:11] <variant> J^son: amarok is nice
[06:11] <DARKGuy> J^son: I like Audacious... it's light
[06:11] <nomasteryoda|w> audacious ... is good
[06:11] <sb73542> wow, that was a bot?
[06:11] <nomasteryoda|w> songbird
[06:11] <ferret_0567> But, there you go, that's what you said
[06:11] <nomasteryoda|w> sb73542, yup
[06:11] <hylje> what
[06:11] <nomasteryoda|w> the best on the planet
[06:11] <sb73542> wow, crazy
[06:12] <variant> ferret_0567: what was it again?
[06:12] <hylje> GDM does not let me enter certain characters
[06:12] <tehmasp> anyone know how passing the 'acpi=noirq' option to the kernel affects irq handling on a dual-core processor (e.g. amd athlon 64 x2) - i need to pass this option to overcome a bios bug but I was expecting that on a dual-core system both cpus would handle irq requests but /proc/interrupts shows that cpu1 hasn't handled any - any info. appreciated
[06:12] <IntangibleLiquid> now that you know how to deal with Amarok, it's truly amazing.
[06:12] <variant> hylje: correct, it's a limmitation.. scandinavian for example
[06:12] <DARKGuy> sudo apt-get install acpi
[06:12] <hylje> INCLUDING hylj which makes logging in rather hard
[06:12] <DARKGuy> oops
[06:12] <DARKGuy> o.o
[06:12] <nomasteryoda|w> IntangibleLiquid, i use amarok to grab my podcasts...
[06:12] <zouzou85> i am trying to add config editor thru main menu but i can't select or deselect, Any ideas?
[06:12] <kymc1985_> hey all, wondering if anyone knows of a location to get a webcam driver for a "Telemax WC/10" webcam
[06:13] <nomasteryoda|w> and sync my ipod .... good it is.. my free ipod shuffle.. 1st gen
[06:13] <ferret_0567> I know where to get a driver for a Eyetoy "webcam"
[06:13] <nomasteryoda|w> zouzou85, config editor to what? ubuntu? gnome?... kde?
[06:14] <hylje> variant: well yes, but the funny thing is that scandinavian characters work fine
 can Amarok deal with Real streaming audio as wl?
[06:14] <hylje> variant: where some common characters also found in ascii don't get entered
[06:14] <nomasteryoda|w> er, i'm not sure...
[06:14] <DARKGuy> hey, what should I do if my computer doesn't shut down when I tell it to? it hangs on "Will now halt..." :/
[06:14] <nomasteryoda|w> don't much use that
[06:15] <tehmasp> kymc1985, google::"Telemax WC/10 linux"    - if that doesn't find it - maybe there isn't any
[06:15] <sgtmattbaker> I have an old computer AMD K-6 333MHz processor and I don't think it can write to SATA.. I am assuming there isn't a way to trick it? (using puppy on it)
[06:15] <nomasteryoda|w> DARKGuy, i would say that is a problem... did you upgrade from edgy?
[06:15] <DARKGuy> nomasteryoda|w: nope, fresh Feisty install
[06:15] <bizkut> DARKGuy could be the acpi
[06:15] <zouzou85> config editor nomasteryoda|w
[06:16] <bizkut> is it true kubuntu feisty is sucks?
[06:16] <nomasteryoda|w> DARKGuy, you could do the SysRsq+Ctrl+Alt+K to sync the drive cache to disk... then SysRsq+Ctrl+Alt+B to reboot instantly... not the best method, but it will get you back out mostly safe
[06:16] <gursikh> thebillywayne, Do you recall the other night when I asked if I could do that "show all apps in all viewports in a cool tiled fashion (move mouse to the top-right thing default in beryl) in feisty with the "desktop effects" thing without installing beryl? And you said no, not yet?
[06:16] <RobbieCrash> Trying to install 6.06 to get a solid install that I can actually work with and I get a screen not found error on boot. Any suggestions? CD already checks fine for defects.
[06:17] <gursikh> thebillywayne, just letting you know that you can :-)
[06:17] <nomasteryoda|w> bizkut, no totally untrue
[06:17] <nomasteryoda|w> using it here and rocks the house
[06:17] <Marupa> Ok, so will uninstalling the nvidia stuff, then reinstalling the nvidia stuff, then restarting X...should clear it up?
[06:18] <nomasteryoda|w> bizkut,  or the laptop in this case... love it... http://nomasteryoda-shots.blogspot.com
[06:18] <DARKGuy> bizkut: Uh, gonna tryreconfiguring it? - nomasteryoda|w: Yeah, but sometimes I just shut the PC down and do my other stuff 'cause I'm sure that if I leave, the PC will shut down as it should, without me waiting for it to finish so I can shut it down manually
[06:18] <thebillywayne> gursikh, i said that?  oh.  well, i'm a dummie then.  :)
[06:18] <gursikh> thebillywayne, yeah, man pages ftw
[06:18] <bizkut> i see no special on kubuntu
[06:18] <bizkut> just like other distros
[06:19] <gursikh> thebillywayne, so I have no reason to install beryl :-)
[06:19] <bizkut> but ubuntu rocks
[06:19] <nomasteryoda|w> DARKGuy, i would wager a bet it will not shut down... the syslog should indicate some problems...
[06:19] <bizkut> i use it since 5.10
[06:19] <nomasteryoda|w> bizkut, that it does...
[06:19] <thebillywayne> gursikh, cool.  glad it worked out for you.  :)
[06:19] <DARKGuy> bizkut: hehe, how can I find that syslog?
[06:19] <DARKGuy> bizkut: whoops, wrong name, sorry
[06:19] <DARKGuy> nomasteryoda|w: how can I find that syslog? or how to read it? o.o
[06:20] <nomasteryoda|w> also if you want something cool to run your Ubuntu on that is "natural brown" check this out.. http://www.oooms.nl/usb/
[06:20] <puff> DARKGuy: As a general rule of thumb, logs live in /var/lo
[06:20] <puff> DARKGuy: As a general rule of thumb, logs live in /var/log
[06:20] <bizkut> nomasteryoda|w, which is better ubuntu or kubuntu? (not the GUI for sure)
[06:20] <nomasteryoda|w> DARKGuy, also might sho up in /var/log/messages
[06:20] <bizkut> nomasteryoda|w I just try the kubuntu
 if not the GUI, the two are identical ^ ^
[06:21] <nomasteryoda|w> DARKGuy, "tail /var/log/messages" will let you see last 10 lines by default
 : i installed gaim -encryption package but with no use
[06:21] <nomasteryoda|w> bizkut, just install the kubuntu-desktop metapackage
[06:21] <nomasteryoda|w> berent, i'm using my google talk here...
[06:21] <bizkut> nomasteryoda|w is it installed by default?
[06:21] <nomasteryoda|w> hang on
[06:21] <puff> Oh, yeah, meant to ask... is there somehting like the taskbar CPU load graph widget, only for CPU temperature?  I've been a bit worried about my CPU fan and I want to keep tabs on it.
[06:21] <nomasteryoda|w> bizkut, its in the repos
[06:21] <task0> how do i enable opengl on nvidia?
 : i am getting same ssl tls error
[06:22] <berent> in gaim
 how about gDesklets?
[06:22] <nomasteryoda|w> berent, just sec
[06:22] <task0> !opengl
[06:22] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about opengl - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:22] <snapAMD> what would be my course of action here...... I need wine to run my brokers software  and the 64bit version of ubuntu notletting me install it
[06:23] <bieb> change brokers
[06:23] <bieb> :D
[06:23] <nomasteryoda|w> berent, did you click advanced?
[06:23] <berent> yes
[06:23] <nomasteryoda|w> in the "Modify Account"
[06:23] <nomasteryoda|w> ok
[06:23] <caner> where can i find my wwwhome folder of apache2?
[06:23] <nomasteryoda|w> port 5222
[06:23] <berent> yes
[06:23] <nomasteryoda|w> talk.google.com
[06:23] <bullgard4> After bootup this morning my Ubuntu 7.04 Laptop does not accept my password! BIOS and Grub are not encrypted. The Debian Reference (section 8.1.1) hints at "I've forgotten the root password." How to proceed?
[06:24] <cycom> bullgard4: do you have the liveCD?
[06:24] <berent> yes
[06:24] <bullgard4> cycom:
[06:24] <bizkut> bullgard4 access to the hardisk and clear the root pass
[06:24] <berent> what should be resource : Gaim?
[06:25] <bullgard4> I have a CD Ubuntu 7.04 Herd 4 which I obtained from the Internet some time ago.
[06:25] <caner> where can i find my wwwhome folder of apache2?
[06:25] <checho> hi
[06:25] <rmd_> always nice to be behind a proxy that filters tarred and gzipped filed...
[06:25] <bizkut> caner somewhere in /var
[06:25] <caner> thanks bizkut
[06:25] <cycom> bullgard4: wait, what the heck are you doing logging in as root anyhow?!
[06:25] <bullgard4> cycom:  I have a CD Ubuntu 7.04 Herd 4 which I obtained from the Internet some time ago.
[06:25] <thebillywayne> what's Postfix in KDE?
[06:25] <cycom> bullgard4: you should be using sudo.
[06:26] <bizkut> bullgard4 do you change the pass root?
[06:26] <cycom> bullgard4: do you mean your user account?
[06:26] <bullgard4> cycom: I do not log in as root. Just as a normal Ubuntu user.
[06:26] <bizkut> bullgard4 do this -->$ sudo su
[06:26] <bizkut> bullgard4 then --> #passwd
[06:27] <cycom> bizkut: uhh...no.
 : should i enable something in email settings for google chat?
[06:27] <bullgard4> bizkut: I cannot do what you advise as I have no access to my Ubuntu.
[06:27] <bieb> wouldnt he need #passwd <user>
[06:27] <bizkut> bullgard4 so you mean you forgot the user pas?
[06:27] <nomasteryoda|w> berent, use your<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[06:27] <nomasteryoda|w> as login
[06:27] <cycom> bullgard4: Boot into the liveCD, use chroot to access your hard drive, and then run sudo passwd username
[06:27] <nomasteryoda|w> gaim is resource
[06:27] <bizkut> bieb yes right
[06:27] <thebillywayne> I'm installing kubuntu-desktop.  it's asking me the general type of configuration for Postfix.  what's Postfix?
[06:27] <bieb> ok
[06:27] <blaze_> does anyone know of a program that will give me the temp for comp
 : yes thats also there
[06:28] <nomasteryoda|w> berent, hang on
[06:28] <nomasteryoda|w> reading... mine just stopped working now too
[06:28] <meta4ical> Hello?
[06:28] <nomasteryoda|w> http://www.google.com/support/talk/bin/answer.py?answer=24073&query=gaim&topic=&type=
[06:28] <bullgard4> cycom: I will do as you advised. It will take time as I am not so experienced.
[06:29] <cycom> bullgard4: good luck mate :)
[06:29] <cycom> bullgard4: check out the gentoo docs for a bit on chroot.  Tha's how I learned to do it.
[06:30] <meta4ical> I just downloaded Ubuntu 7.04 and attempted to boot the cd on my computer
[06:30] <meta4ical> The first time I recieved a black screen while it was at the Ubuntu loading bar
[06:31] <snowlegend> Hi all
[06:31] <oldude67> hey can anyone help me with aim?
[06:31] <nomasteryoda|w> meta4ical, check the cd
[06:31] <variant> !gaim | oldude67
[06:31] <ubotu> oldude67: Instant Messenger Clients: Gaim (GNOME, http://help.ubuntu.com/community/GaimHowto), Kopete (KDE), both supporting MSN, Jabber, AIM, Gadu-Gadu, Novell Groupwise, ICQ and IRC.
[06:31] <nomasteryoda|w> using the tool for defects
[06:32] <variant> oldude67: gaim recently changed names mind you
[06:32] <bullgard4> cycom: I will search for the gentoo docs also.
[06:32] <variant> now called Pidgin not gaim
[06:32] <oldude67> i have gaim....was wanting to use aim.
[06:32] <variant> oldude67: gaim/pidgin supports the aim protocal
[06:33] <cycom> bullgard4: www.gentoo.org.  There's a link to the gentoo handbook.  Take a look at the section on chrooting.
[06:33] <Sir_IW> is pidgin downloadable yet?
[06:33] <nomasteryoda|w> variant, true, but the one in ubuntu/ku/ed is gaim at the moment..
[06:33] <variant> nomasteryoda|w:  isee
[06:33] <bullgard4> bizkut: I do not mean that I forgot my password. I entered it correctly several times. I restarted the computer. I entered my password again. In vain.
[06:33] <oldude67> variant: ya but it doesnt support webcam
[06:33] <variant> oldude67: if you really must use the aim client you can get it here: http://www.aim.com/get_aim/linux/latest_linux.adp
[06:33] <nbound> okay guys, how do u make a filesystem mounted by fstab not root-only
[06:33] <nomasteryoda|w> berent, mine says its logged in
[06:33] <variant> nbound: with the "users" option
[06:33] <blaze_> is it possible to monitor my hardware temperature under linux
[06:34] <nbound> variant, how would i fix the following:
[06:34] <nbound> /dev/hdb1	/home/karl/Music	ext3	defaults	0	0
[06:34] <oldude67> variant: have it installed already just gives me and error when trying to run it.
[06:34] <cycom> bullgard4: yeah, chroot will let you get into your hard drive environment from the liveCD and change it.
[06:34] <snowlegend> I've got a server I'm trying to upgrade from edgy to feisty which doesn't have internet connectivity, but *does* have access to a full mirror. The do-release-upgrade tool insists on attempting to connect to an ubuntu webserver and then failing because it can't
[06:34] <goodle> i am having trouble with my dvd drive since upgrading to Feisty Fawn, tia
[06:34] <meta4ical> nomasteryoda: Sorry I was interrupted by my brother :P
[06:34] <variant> nbound: where it says "defaults" make it "defaults,user" (don't remember if it's user or users, experiment)
[06:34] <variant> oldude67: sorry, i don't know
[06:35] <nbound> variant, thanks :)
[06:35] <oldude67> variant: thanks me either....lol...
[06:35] <ravigr8> can anyone help me connecting internet  in ubuntu
[06:35] <meta4ical> Um the second time it booted into the desktop and AS it was loading gnome I was able to move the mouse, but when when everything finished loading
[06:35] <ravigr8>
[06:35] <bullgard4> cycom: Ok. I will keep in mind what you advised.
[06:35] <ravigr8> i am using gprs facilities of airtel & i use my NOKIA 3230 for that
[06:35] <task0> is evolution removable?
[06:35] <meta4ical> the mouse froze
[06:35] <bizkut> bullgard4, that's weird if you entered the right password
[06:35] <nomasteryoda|w> berent, screenname with no @gmail.com ... server=gmail.com resource =gaim, your password ... is the first part ... advanced should say no force ssl, no allow plain text auth, port 5222 and talk.google.com as connect server .. No Proxy if you don't use one
[06:35] <bizkut> bullgard4, which ubuntu version?
[06:35] <meta4ical> then a 3rd time when I actually tried to install ubuntu, the mouse froze again
[06:35] <bullgard4> bizkut: yes it is.
[06:35] <Diehard-ca> how can i monitor temp of my hardware?
[06:35] <bullgard4> bizkut: 7.04
[06:36] <nomasteryoda|w> Diehard-ca, depends on hardware... hddtemp is one option
[06:36] <Diehard-ca> k
[06:36] <bizkut> bullgard4, so is it true nonTLS version is bad?
[06:36] <ravigr8> !help
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[06:36] <variant> Diehard-ca: for cpu temps you can type cat /proc/acpi/thermal_zone/THZN/temperature (note that THZN name may differ slightly for your box)
[06:36] <vlada> Installing Ubuntu via PXE network boot ?
[06:36] <nbound> variant neither works
[06:36] <bizkut> LTS
[06:36] <variant> Diehard-ca: any other thermal sensors may be supported by gkrellm/lmsensors
[06:36] <nomasteryoda|w> i use gkrellm or a gdesklet with sensors package...
[06:36] <nomasteryoda|w> lmsensors ya that's it
[06:36] <variant> nbound: in what way?
[06:36] <Marupa> Ok, that didn't help at all.
[06:37] <variant> nbound: how are you trying to access it as the user?
 : yes thats also there
[06:37] <bullgard4> bizkut: I do not know the word 'nonTLS version'
[06:37] <variant> nbound: what command(s) are you using?
[06:37] <puff> Hm, I wonder if there's a gnome widget to do one of those POV things - a vertical line of blinking lights that are blinking at the right speed so if you pan your vision across them they form a shape.
[06:37] <Marupa> Anyone have any ideas on how I can get the nvidia drivers working properly?
[06:37] <puff> That'd be a cool toy.
[06:37] <nbound> variant, go into nautilus, click on folder at mount point, after a sudo mount -a with my changed fstab
 :  tell me about jaaber - what all are required for ssl/ tls login
[06:38] <variant> nbound: and your user can't access the contents? what are the permissions on the partition?
[06:38] <nomasteryoda|w> berent, well I recommend this... install wireshark, and start a capture of the data stream for your network card... you will see if its even getting out to the talk.google.com server to try
[06:38] <task0> to isntall vim, what package do i have to install?
[06:38] <task0> !vim
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[06:38] <bizkut> bullgard4, i mean LTS
[06:38] <task0> !html
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[06:38] <nbound> variant, all say root, though i have read only access
[06:38] <puff> Diehard-ca: I have a thinkpad, I generally use "cat /proc/acpi/thermal_zone/THMO/*"
[06:38] <bizkut> bullgard4, Long Term Support
[06:38] <task0> !css
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[06:38] <ravigr8> ne one please help me connecting internet in ubuntu using my NOKIA 3230 having airtel gprs connection
[06:38] <bizkut> bullgard4, 7.04 is not LTS version
[06:39] <variant> nbound: if it's DEFINATLY NOT a parititon with system files/folders (ie, just a bunch of music or something) then you can run chmod -R 775 /path/to/that/partition as root
[06:39] <bullgard4> bizkut: My Ubuntu version is 7.04. This is a non-Long Time version.
[06:39] <variant> nbound: but be carefull there
[06:39] <nomasteryoda|w> berent, that is the whole thing... i gave you...
[06:39] <variant> nbound: if you were to run that on / it would trash the system
[06:39] <bizkut> too much problem on new ubuntu
[06:39] <goodle> if anyone can help i am having trouble with my DVD drive, after installing feisty fawn this particular isn't found even though i used this drive to install Ubuntu
[06:39] <nbound> variant, its blank atm so i will give it a go, path to the mount point or to its dev thingo?
[06:39] <meta4ical> I sort of agree : )
[06:39] <bizkut> my latest stable ubuntu is dapper
[06:39] <variant> nbound: to the mount point
[06:39] <meta4ical> I could at least boot and install earlier versions : p
 :  i also tried conencting with psi it says handshake error with jabber server
[06:40] <PerfectStranger_> Marupa: newbie here ..had crazy problems getting my wireless card working .....unusual solution
[06:40] <bizkut> DAPPER is the best!!
[06:40] <bizkut> ever
[06:40] <variant> nbound: you should really change the group of the mount point instead
[06:40] <variant> nbound: to be honest
[06:40] <nomasteryoda|w> berent, definitely start up wireshark and look into the traffic
[06:40] <nomasteryoda|w> bizkut, err, sure... to each his own
[06:40] <variant> nbound: chgrp -R users /path/to/mountpoint
[06:41] <Diehard-ca> ok how do i install lmsensors?
[06:41] <meta4ical> brb
[06:41] <ravigr8> !help              ne one please help me connecting internet in ubuntu using my NOKIA 3230 having airtel gprs connection
[06:41] <bizkut> ubuntu shouldn't release too much version
[06:41] <variant> Diehard-ca: install gkrellm, it will install whatever deps it needs to perform the function
[06:41] <variant> Diehard-ca: unless this is a headless version
[06:41] <Diehard-ca> k
[06:41] <variant> s/version/install
[06:41] <nomasteryoda|w> ravigr8, did you install the gprs tools from package manager?
[06:42] <ant-> !lmsensors | Diehard-ca
[06:42] <bizkut> how about stick with a version untill rocking stable just like debian
[06:42] <ubotu> Diehard-ca: You might find something useful at: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SensorInstallHowto
[06:42] <variant> bizkut: #ubuntu-offtopic for that kind of discussion, this is for support only
[06:42] <nbound> variant, cheers that worked, also chowned it to my user account, those settings will stick after boot?
 : lets say it is rejected by jabber itself . Then what to do?
[06:42] <variant> Diehard-ca: although i hear what your saying to a certain extent...
[06:43] <variant> nbound: yep
[06:43] <vlada> how to macke ubuntu local mirror on windows XP with ubuntu CD ????
[06:43] <floating> please someone help me with my problem http://forum.xfce.org/index.php?topic=3351.0
[06:43] <nomasteryoda|w> berent, err if you told it gmail then you should not be talking to jabber at all
[06:43] <ahhh_fosco> is it possible to connect ubuntu to a wireless lan with a wireless cf card that i use on my pda?
[06:43] <sivel27> hello all
[06:43] <nbound> variant, thanks again perfectly set up now :P
[06:43] <bizkut> nomasteryoda|w, my 7.04 doesn't mount my dapper ext3 harddisk
[06:43] <nomasteryoda|w> do you have gmail account?
[06:43] <variant> nbound: you should read up on permissiosn
[06:43] <ahhh_fosco> is it possible to connect ubuntu to a wireless lan with a wireless cf card that i use on my pda?
[06:43] <Toma-> ahhh_fosco: yes.
[06:43] <nomasteryoda|w> bizkut, thats weird... mine works fine
[06:44] <nbound> variant, true, im used to doing it through nautilus, really should leanr the terminal commands for it
[06:44] <variant> nbound: and if anyone ever tells you to set a permission such as 777, imediately ask somone else as they don't know what they are doing :)
[06:44] <sivel27> is there a way to significantly speed up the boot time of ubuntu? if so, does anyone have a good how-to link
[06:44] <ahhh_fosco> Toma: can you tell me how?
[06:44] <nbound> variant, what does it do?
[06:44] <nomasteryoda|w> bizkut, you might need to determin the uuid and put that into the mount point in /etc/fstab
[06:44] <bizkut> nomasteryoda|w everybody got problem with 7.04 but not yours
[06:44] <task0> !gvim
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[06:44] <Toma-> ahhh_fosco: not really :( it involve ip over usb stuff that ive got no idea about
[06:44] <variant> nbound: that will make whatever file you run it on read write and executable by _anyone_
 : so whats the use of jabber protocol? why there is TLS handshake error with jabber server in psi
[06:44] <ravigr8> no
[06:44] <nomasteryoda|w> sivel27, don't boot... resume from suspend =D
[06:44] <sivel27> lol
[06:45] <nbound> variant, lol, damn, security risk 101 :P
[06:45] <variant> nbound: and I see some people telling others to do that recursivly as a "quick fix", but it's like cutting off your legs to get under a low bridge or something :)
[06:45] <bizkut> nomasteryoda|w one more, my pc can't resume from suspend
[06:45] <ahhh_fosco> Toma-: i dont think you get what im saying, im not connecting through my pda, im just using the wifi cf card from it
[06:45] <nomasteryoda|w> berent, with a real gmail account...
[06:45] <nomasteryoda|w> bizkut, using beryl?
 : yes
[06:45] <nomasteryoda|w> beryl is a nono
[06:45] <variant> nbound: yeah, you might get all the way under te bridge but you will probably die shortly after ;)
[06:45] <Toma-> ahhh_fosco: AHH. well then. probably a no
[06:45] <nomasteryoda|w> ... switch to the kde or gnome options before suspend
[06:46] <nomasteryoda|w> will work
[06:46] <ravigr8> i have tried WVDIAL
[06:46] <nomasteryoda|w> this crappy dell even does now...
[06:46] <Toma-> ahhh_fosco: http://www.linux-usb.org/usbnet/
[06:46] <bizkut> nomasteryoda|w, i don't use beryl. the keyboard l.e.d are blinking but nothing happen when i press them
[06:46] <nomasteryoda|w> ravigr8, is there a script for wvdial someone has generated to do that?
[06:46] <nbound> variant, haha nice analogy
[06:46] <ahhh_fosco> does anyone know if its possible to connect to the internet through a wifi cf card in a card reader?
[06:46] <nbound> ahhh_fosco, maybe if the reader is supported
[06:46] <variant> ravigr8: did you run wvdialconf ? as wvidal must be configured before it will do anything
[06:46] <nomasteryoda|w> bizkut, hmmm enough swap partition?
[06:47] <bizkut> ahhh_fosco, you need SDIO device
[06:47] <ravigr8> ya i run wvdialconf
[06:47] <ahhh_fosco> nbound:how would i find out?
[06:47] <bizkut> nomasteryoda|w, need equal to RAM?
[06:47] <ravigr8> it detected my phones modem
[06:47] <nomasteryoda|w> bizkut, now ubuntu-server in Vmware, that will not work... know that
[06:47] <variant> ravigr8: and it didn't detect the modem device then or what?
[06:47] <nomasteryoda|w> bizkut, nope... double it
[06:47] <nomasteryoda|w> or a little over is better
[06:48] <bizkut> nomasteryoda|w, so if the RAM is 1G, need the swap 2G?
[06:48] <variant> ravigr8: and you configured the config file with the phone number to dial, and you also configured chap/pap-secrets with your username and password file?
[06:48] <nomasteryoda|w> bizkut, look at what top show... your ram is all "loaded up" even if you are not using it all
[06:48] <nomasteryoda|w> yes
[06:48] <Diehard-ca> ok i dont get anything on ubuntu installation of lmsensors
[06:48] <nomasteryoda|w> lm-sensors?
[06:48] <nbound> ahhh_fosco, if it reads a cf card, but from what i understand cf support is fairl non-existant, and even then there is no guarantee anything would work other then storage devices
[06:48] <Diehard-ca> yes
[06:48] <ravigr8> ya i configured phone no username & password too
[06:49] <ant-> !lmsensors | Diehard-ca
[06:49] <ubotu> Diehard-ca: You might find something useful at: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SensorInstallHowto
[06:49] <nomasteryoda|w> Diehard-ca, its there...
[06:49] <Diehard-ca> this is my first day with linux
[06:49] <variant> ravigr8: well then, if you configured it all correctly and it didn't work I don't know what to say except you probably made a mistake somewhre.. what error do you get when you run wvidal with the phone connected?
[06:49] <nomasteryoda|w> try on command line... "sudo apt-cache search lm-sensors"
[06:49] <nomasteryoda|w> lots of results
[06:49] <Diehard-ca> where do i find the command line?
[06:50] <bizkut> Diehard-ca is it true?
[06:50] <thebillywayne> any other last.fm fans having trouble besides me?
[06:50] <nomasteryoda|w> Applications, Accessories, Terminal
[06:50] <Diehard-ca> what is true bizkut?
[06:50] <bizkut> Diehard-ca, :)
[06:50] <bizkut> Diehard-ca, your first day with linux
[06:50] <nomasteryoda|w> congrats on running Diehard-ca
[06:50] <bizkut> Diehard-ca, could be tough
[06:50] <ravigr8> the prob is that when i type wvdial in terminal it goes upto registering my pc on network & then generates some wiered code like ['
[06:50] <nomasteryoda|w> glad to have you join in the fun
[06:50] <T4U> pretty nic elinux
[06:50] <ravigr8> & SOME CHARACTERS
[06:51] <nomasteryoda|w> ravigr8, model again is ?
[06:51] <blaze_> ok this is diehard-ca im on my linux comp
[06:51] <blaze_> and yes it is true this is my first day
[06:51] <ravigr8> NOKIA 3230
[06:51] <nomasteryoda|w> cool
[06:51] <Frogzoo> general opinion - feisty is more or less stable than edgy ??
[06:51] <variant> ravigr8: yeah, there are a bunch of authentication messages, that can take a little while while you are authenticated but it should eventualy say connected
[06:51] <blaze_> ok so what do i do in the terminal
[06:51] <thebillywayne> Frogzoo, on my system, about the same.
[06:51] <bizkut> Frogzoo dapper is more stable becasue it's old
[06:51] <variant> ravigr8: just let it run and see if it connects, the strange output is just authentication
[06:51] <T4U> my first day on linux too
[06:52] <bizkut> T4U congratulation
[06:52] <Madpilot> Frogzoo, more - but edgy was pretty stable too. Feisty is just more polished
[06:52] <Frogzoo> bizkut: somethings like suspend work better in edgy than dapper
[06:52] <PerfectStranger_> looks like many of us newbies here ..lol
[06:52] <variant> ravigr8: there are some gui interfaces to wvidal, gppp or gwvdial or something probably
[06:52] <bizkut> Frogzoo congratulation
[06:52] <ravigr8> it doesnt connects even if i wait for 10 minutes
[06:52] <T4U> thanks biz
[06:52] <bizkut> blaze_ congratulation
[06:52] <bizkut> :)
[06:52] <blaze_> thanks
[06:52] <variant> ravigr8: then you may have the wrong secrets file? did you configure pap or chap authentication?
[06:52] <bizkut> I still remember my first day
[06:52] <eos87> hello, from Nicaragua :S
[06:52] <snapAMD> do I still need to install the X.org Nvida driver if Add-Remove is telling me my hadware does not require any restricted drivers?
[06:52] <T4U> hey
[06:53] <blaze_> if i could figure out how to install the lmsensors
[06:53] <nomasteryoda|w> ravigr8, is it bluetooth?
[06:53] <Madpilot> blaze_, have you see the !sensors tell?
[06:53] <ravigr8> that i dont know
[06:53] <variant> snapAMD: no
[06:53] <bizkut> blaze_ reads dome lmsensors may help
[06:53] <variant> ravigr8: which did you use? pap or chap?
[06:53] <bizkut> blaze_ reads some lmsensors docs may help
[06:53] <nomasteryoda|w> blaze_, short cut... sudo apt-get install lm-senors
[06:53] <Madpilot> blaze_, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SensorInstallHowto
[06:53] <nomasteryoda|w> sensors
[06:53] <nomasteryoda|w> what Madpilot said
[06:53] <justnulling2> how do i get widescreen working i have installed 915resolution but still am stuck at 1600x1200
[06:54] <JaXeRiR> hi
[06:54] <WantlessPower> ok this is a real easy one
[06:54] <D2dChat3> does anyone know why my resolution is stick in 800x600?
[06:54] <eos87> que onda brotheres
[06:54] <D2dChat3> stuck*
[06:54] <variant> ravigr8: /etc/ppp/pap_secrets or /etc/ppp/chap_secrets
[06:54] <D2dChat3> and how to fix it?
[06:54] <WantlessPower> how does one change which program opens by default
[06:54] <bizkut> D2DChat xorg.conf stuff
[06:54] <WantlessPower> when opening a file?
[06:54] <nomasteryoda|w> D2DChat, what video card?
[06:54] <eos87> see you soon
[06:54] <variant> ravigr8: if i recall correctly (it's been years since i used dialup) the syntax is something like "username * password"
[06:54] <D2dChat3> nomasteryoda|w, it is onboard but i know it supports higher
[06:54] <snapAMD> ok now if I can just figure out a substitute for having no wine in the 64bit Ubuntu........ Anyone get Metatrader4 working under 64bit version?
[06:55] <ravigr8> i donno really i just given command wvdialconf in terminal & then sudo gedit /etc/wvdial.conf & edited only phone no & username & password only
[06:55] <bizkut> WantlessPower use open with others and change the default
[06:55] <WhoNeedszzz> Anyone here that helped me before still here?
[06:55] <variant> ravigr8: where * is the authentication server.. but you can leave it as * and it will use any
[06:55] <blaze_> ok it says error couldn't fine package lm-sensors
[06:55] <blaze_> i have it saved on  my desktop
 blaze_, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SensorInstallHowto
[06:56] <variant> ravigr8: you need to put your username and pass in either chap or pap secrets (but not both), try one and then try connecting, if that doesn't work try the toher. i seem to recall chap secrets being the most commonly used
[06:56] <WhoNeedszzz> how do you register?
[06:56] <WantlessPower> i opened with others but i see no default selection
[06:56] <WhoNeedszzz> !register
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[06:56] <ravigr8> can u give me a general script for using gprs for wvdial
[06:56] <variant> ravigr8: "challenge handshake authentication protocall" iirc
[06:56] <T4U> hey is there anyway to go behind a proxy with this ?
[06:56] <nomasteryoda|w> !proxy
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[06:56] <variant> ravigr8: man, you virtually have it set up, just put your password and username in pap/chap secrets and it will work
[06:57] <variant> ravigr8: there should be a gui for it anyway, just a sec
[06:57] <DarkX> sorry bout that..new scritp
[06:57] <blaze_> im using the shortcut that someone just gave me
[06:57] <WantlessPower> i opened with others but i see no default selection
[06:57] <blaze_> sudo apt-get install lm-senors
[06:57] <variant> ravigr8: apt-get install kwvdial
[06:57] <variant> ravigr8: With KWvDial, you don't have to worry about Chat Scripts, Secrets files
[06:57] <nomasteryoda|w> variant, i had to use wvidal... wanted to use knetworkmanager, but the ppp script was too complex for it to handle
[06:57] <blaze_> thats what im using
[06:58] <ravigr8> i dont have workin internet connection in ubuntu so cant use apt-get
[06:58] <D2dChat3> bizkut, im looking at xorg.conf and it looks fine, it's going all the way up to 1280x1024
[06:58] <variant> ravigr8: thats a problem. so, fix your chap or pap secrets file (10 second job) and you will be able to connect
[06:58] <ravigr8> is kwvdial for kde? coz i m usin gnomw
[06:59] <variant> ravigr8: right now, i am jsut finnishing work and have to go
[06:59] <D2dChat3> bizkut, and defaultdepth is set to one with all those modes
[06:59] <variant> ravigr8: yes, but big deal. at least you can connect easily
[06:59] <ravigr8> tell me how to fix it
[06:59] <variant> ravigr8: i told you
[06:59] <WantlessPower> how do you change which default program to open with?
[06:59] <WantlessPower> when opening a file?
[06:59] <WhoNeedszzz> eck: i had to reinstall, the HD sectors were completely messed up
[06:59] <bizkut> D2dChat3 what is the video card model?
[06:59] <variant> ravigr8: put "username * password" in either /etc/ppp/chap_secrets or /etc/ppp/pap_secrets file and it will wrok
[07:00] <mzg> d
[07:00] <ravigr8> k thanx will try
[07:00] <snapAMD> WantlessPowers Preferences/preffered applications
[07:00] <variant> ravigr8: change username to your username and password to the password that your isp gave you but leave the * as it is
[07:00] <WhoNeedszzz> eck: are you there?
[07:00] <variant> ravigr8: gl, i have to go now
[07:00] <D2dChat3> bizkut, im pretty sure it is onboard, VT8378?
[07:00] <variant> cya all
[07:00] <D2dChat3> VIA Technologies
[07:00] <D2dChat3> S3 UniChrome
[07:00] <ravigr8> bye varient
[07:00] <variant> ravigr8: I remember it took me a long time to figure it all out the first time with dialup :) so don't get dissheartend
[07:00] <soyporti> hello could anyone help me
[07:01] <GigaClon> soyporti, most likely
[07:01] <WantlessPower> ok i've opened the preferred applications window
[07:01] <justnulling2> anyone knows how to get widescreen working?
[07:01] <blaze_> how do i use .rpm file?
[07:01] <GigaClon> although we don't know until you ask
[07:01] <ravigr8> i m also tryin from 1 year
[07:01] <snapAMD> WantlessPowers dont think thats what you need sorry
[07:01] <WantlessPower> i'm actually trying to specify media files to open with XMMS instead of Movie Player
[07:02] <mzg> widescreen in a laptop ?
[07:02] <soyporti> I want to promote open source in my country
[07:02] <GigaClon> blaze_, if you can try to get a .deb file, else use alien
[07:02] <snapAMD> i got to used to KDE lol now i cant find my way around Gnome
[07:02] <WantlessPower> lol
[07:02] <task0> how can i unmount a partition?
[07:02] <ravigr8> in knoppix i was succeded using kppp
[07:02] <WantlessPower> *under his breath* gnome's better
[07:03] <soyporti>  I need to promote the open source software in my country colombia
[07:03] <flowingfire> Hello Ubuntu Fans!!! I'm curious if anybody can help me figure out how to get Wine working.  I installed it and it worked on prior installations of Feisty, but it's just refuses to work now... And this installation seems fine.
[07:03] <mzg> hey soyporti
[07:03] <mzg> im colombian too
[07:03] <task0> i get a "unmount: /media/data mount disagrees with the fstab"
[07:03] <deafboy> i followed the wiki article to upgrade to the newest fglrx but im not getting any acceleration, can someon help me?
[07:03] <soyporti> flowingfire try to run winecfg
[07:04] <flowingfire> soyporti: that prog. is what's causing me trouble.
[07:04] <mzg> hey tras0
[07:04] <soyporti> if you run winecfg you can configure the program i recomend you to make emule windows 98
[07:04] <mzg> it seems your fstab is malformed
[07:04] <flowingfire> soyporti: ok
[07:05] <mzg> task0 you may try unmunting the device directly
[07:05] <soyporti> the program works fine for me at least when i put it to emule 98
[07:05] <task0> mzg pm?
[07:05] <deafboy> i followed the wiki article to upgrade to the newest fglrx but im not getting any acceleration, can someon help me?
[07:05] <flowingfire> soyporti: Ok....
[07:05] <soyporti> mzg do you speak spanish
[07:05] <D2dChat3> bizkut, any ideas?
[07:06] <task0> how can my fstab be malformed, it has been created by the installer
[07:06] <soyporti> mzg  hey?
[07:06] <soyporti> i need to make a report for the goverment
[07:06] <soyporti> the PLAN DECENAL DE EDUCACIN
[07:06] <soyporti> is running
[07:06] <soyporti> mzg?
[07:07] <soyporti> could you answer me please?
[07:07] <PerfectStranger_> D2dChat3: check out the driver version and try a slightly different driver ..as what i had to do to  get my wireless card working
[07:07] <flowingfire> soyporti: When I go innto "add application" the "look in" menu is blank... do u know why?
[07:07] <task0> soyporti: yo hablo castellano
[07:07] <D2dChat3> PerfectStranger_, well it "seems" like my wireless card is working
[07:07] <mzg> no me llegan los mensajes
[07:07] <D2dChat3> PerfectStranger_, but perhaps im not close enough to my wireless network
[07:07] <WantlessPower> so... does anyone here know how to specify media files to open with XMMS instead of Movie Player?
[07:07] <task0> !es | soyporti
[07:07] <ubotu> soyporti: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[07:07] <mzg> debo registrar el nick
[07:07] <soyporti> I work the spanish verssion of ubuntu
[07:07] <techie> hey
[07:07] <soyporti> be more specific
[07:08] <PerfectStranger_> know that but may be same for your video card
[07:08] <blaze_> ok how do i become a root?
[07:08] <soyporti> ubotu muchas gracias
[07:08] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about muchas gracias - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:08] <mzg> soyporti i cant send pm's
[07:08] <task0> how can my fstab be malformed, it has been created by the installer, please help
[07:09] <blaze_> ok how do i become a root? can someone help?
[07:09] <flowingfire> soyporti: Wine won't let me browse for files at all... And also, it forgets where I established the virtual drive C every time I close config..
[07:09] <soyporti> thank you ubotu
[07:09] <Prez_> to compile a new kernel and make sure I use both cores, what was compile flag?  I think I remember a -j2 somewhere
[07:09] <mzg> blaze uso sudo
[07:09] <task0> !fstab
[07:09] <ubotu> The /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions
[07:09] <task0> !partitions
[07:09] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Gnome under Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For Edgy, see !fstab and !DiskMounter
[07:09] <soyporti> ?
[07:09] <soyporti> where did you get wine?
[07:09] <picasso> my update seems to have broken, i clicked 'install updates' in the gui app and it's stuck on "Preparing to configure xserver-xorg-core"
[07:09] <blaze_> what is sudo... im sorry but this is my first day
[07:09] <flowingfire> Adept Manager
[07:10] <picasso> i didn't click on upgrade to 7.04, just 'install updates' (6.10 system)
[07:10] <task0> how can i rebuild fstab?
[07:10] <mzg> blaze_ its a command line command
[07:10] <flowingfire> and I've re-installed it several times... I'm actually having the same problem with Cedega-- a wine-like program
[07:10] <mzg> blaze_ to execute programs with root privileges
[07:10] <blaze_> perl Makefile.PL; make; make install
[07:10] <blaze_> thats the command i have tp type
[07:10] <blaze_> how would i type with sudo?
[07:11] <mzg> blaze_ preceed each with sudo
[07:11] <soyporti> hello kinus
[07:11] <blaze_> Can't open perl script "Makefile.PL": No such file or directory
[07:11] <blaze_> make: *** No targets specified and no makefile found.  Stop.
[07:11] <blaze_> make: *** No rule to make target `install'.  Stop.
[07:11] <mzg> blaze_ you may use #sudo su but BE careful
[07:11] <blaze_> thats what it sed
[07:11] <mzg> blaze_  it seems file are not in your path
[07:12] <blaze_> i have the files on my desktop
[07:12] <mzg> blaze_  the open the terminal and go to desktop
[07:12] <mikeyhatesms> if you are going to install and keep xp on for the meantime, do you download gparted or qtparted to xp and partition from xp?
[07:12] <mzg> blaze_  # cd /home/user_name/Desktop
[07:13] <task0> colud some helpme... how do i rebuild fstab?
[07:14] <blaze_> it still says the same thing
[07:14] <blaze_> blaze@blaze-desktop:~$
[07:14] <blaze_> thats how it should be right?
[07:14] <blaze_> mzg?
[07:15] <soyporti> hey does anyone know is there is a poyect oriented to mechanical engineering? I want to help in that
[07:15] <fuffal0> where is the default install path for sqlite3?
[07:15] <blaze_> can anyone help me?
[07:16] <chriskk> is Webmin a safe tool to use to administer your machine?
[07:16] <soyporti> tell me blaze
[07:16] <blaze_> ok im trying to install lmsensors
[07:16] <soyporti> don't know that much sorry
[07:17] <blaze_> aite thanks
[07:17] <blaze_> do u know how to use the terminal?
[07:17] <blaze_> to install files?
[07:17] <flowingfire> Soyporti: Perhaps u could tell me what this error that comes up in similar fashion in the shell means: err:shell:SHGetFolderPathW Failed to create directory L"c:\\windows\\profiles\\david\\
[07:17] <mikeyhatesms> is there some newbie channel just for installing issues?
[07:18] <soyporti> I think you should use automatix to install wine
[07:18] <deafboy> can anyone help me update to fglrx 8.36, i have the package and the kernel module installed but i still don't have graphics acceleration :(
[07:18] <soyporti> do you know automatix
[07:18] <soyporti> ?
[07:18] <blaze_> you talking to me?
[07:18] <mikeyhatesms> i downloaded ubuntu; do i HAVE to make a live cd to get an install?
[07:18] <flowingfire> soyparti: What's automatix?  How do I install it?
[07:18] <variant> mikeyhatesms: the install cd is the live cd
[07:18] <soyporti> flowinwire do you know automatix?
[07:19] <variant> flowingfire: do not install automatix, it is totaly unrequired
[07:19] <flowingfire> soyparti: I don't know automatix... What is it?
[07:19] <blaze_> can anyone help me install lmsensors?
[07:19] <mikeyhatesms> but i mean i don't have a cd, just downloaded from a mirror; can i just install from that?
[07:19] <soyporti> wait just a second please
[07:19] <flowingfire> how come, variant?
[07:19] <variant> flowingfire: automatix will not fix your problem with wine by any means
[07:19] <flowingfire> variant: any ideas?
[07:19] <sgtmattbaker> which is the best* Kubuntu, Xubuntu or Ubuntu
[07:19] <variant> flowingfire: all it does is automate installation of a bunch of proprietry software
[07:20] <Raonid> sgtmattbaker: it's a matter of personal taste
[07:20] <variant> flowingfire: well the path in the error that it is trying to create is not a valid path
[07:20] <soyporti> automatix will install easily the wine program and others without you having to use the terminal
[07:20] <sgtmattbaker> variant: what automatix2?
[07:20] <variant> flowingfire: a good idea is to ask in #winehq, they are pretty helpfull if you hang around
[07:20] <sgtmattbaker> Raonid: well what are some easily seen differences
[07:20] <soyporti> yes automatix 2
[07:20] <soyporti> flow go to this page http://lifehacker.com/software/ubuntu/hack-attack-top-10-ubuntu-apps-and-tweaks-195437.php
[07:20] <Raonid> sgtmattbaker: the interface
[07:21] <soyporti> there you will find it
[07:21] <variant> mikeyhatesms: yes you can
[07:21] <variant> !isntall mikeyhatesms
[07:21] <variant> !install | mikeyhatesms
[07:21] <ubotu> mikeyhatesms: Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues - See also !automate
[07:21] <Raonid> sgtmattbaker: you can see the differences between them on their respective sites
[07:21] <variant> mikeyhatesms: see that message there..
[07:21] <sgtmattbaker> I know kde, but what is that just default glossy blue slick look? xfce is kinda slim, and Ubuntu is just orange gnome
[07:21] <mikeyhatesms> hmmmmmmm...... what msg?
[07:21] <flowingfire> thx :)
[07:21] <variant> mikeyhatesms: what ubotu said
[07:22] <variant> mikeyhatesms: ubotu is a bot
[07:22] <Raonid> sgtmattbaker: you can change the colors, icons and install new themes as you wish
[07:22] <variant> mikeyhatesms: you don't need to burn a cd to isntall, it's just the easyest way
[07:22] <mikeyhatesms> ok, so i will go look ... thx
[07:22] <soyporti> uninstall wine and put automatix to let it do it for you
[07:22] <soyporti> is just one click
[07:23] <mikeyhatesms> variant: do i need to partition first?  do i download a partitioning program to xp first?
[07:24] <mikeyhatesms> GOD i am so dense
[07:24] <ASr_> hjfh
[07:24] <ASr_> Siema
[07:24] <binMonkey> hjkl
[07:24] <ASr_> kto po polsku pisz?
[07:26] <GusNZ> hi there, how could you find what /dev/hd* is m$ using ?
[07:27] <JonNC> try df -h
[07:27] <GusNZ> not there
[07:27] <Seveas> GusNZ, sudo fdisk -L
[07:27] <Seveas> that'll list partition types
[07:27] <Seveas> err, -l, not -L
[07:28] <GusNZ>  /dev/sda1               1      160000    61439994    7  HPFS/NTFS
[07:28] <GusNZ> guess thats the one
[07:28] <GusNZ> thanks Seveas
[07:28] <GusNZ> why is this not hd* instead ?
[07:28] <solom0nn> hey, i have like 5 sata drives, and "ata5" is spitting error messages and looking like it's failed.  Only, I can't figure out which drive "ata5" is referring to.  can anybody give me a hint?
[07:29] <flowingfire> lol I just posted a bunch of stuff in the wrong chat room.
[07:29] <Seveas> GusNZ, in feisty almost everything is /dev/sd*
[07:29] <GusNZ> so when i edit /etc/lilo.conf
[07:29] <sgtmattbaker> Raonid: is there more software in a DVD installer (I guess there is..)
[07:29] <soyporti> flowingfire it works?
[07:29] <d0lph1nK1ng> how do i make my ubuntu use eth2 for an internet connection?
[07:29] <GusNZ> other=/dev/hda2
[07:29] <GusNZ> label="Wonderland"
[07:29] <flowingfire> soyporti: I'm trying it out, and it's still installing the new wine.
[07:29] <Raonid> sgtmattbaker: don't know...
[07:29] <Seveas> GusNZ, ubuntu uses grub by default and for a good reason. It also uses UUIDS instead of paths for mounting
[07:30] <soyporti> ok
[07:30] <GusNZ> i see.
[07:30] <soyporti> anything you need let me know
[07:30] <flowingfire> but strangely enough, I couldn't get into adept manager to uninstall it before I got automatix because it said I had no root privileges...
[07:30] <flowingfire> and it never asked for the password
[07:30] <sgtmattbaker> Raonid: it has ~4400MB size for one,, I would hope they have more useful software
[07:30] <Seveas> !automati | flowingfire
[07:30] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about automati - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:30] <Seveas> !automatix | flowingfire
[07:30] <ubotu> flowingfire: Automatix2 is a proprietary script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[07:30] <Raonid> sgtmattbaker: hehe, probably
[07:31] <GusNZ> be back
[07:32] <flowingfire> Automatix gave me a bunch of errors now.
[07:32] <soyporti> ubuntu doesn't have a root account
[07:32] <JonNC> it does, it is not turned on by default
[07:32] <soyporti> you use the password for the account you create
[07:32] <flowingfire> yeah, and it never asked for one....
[07:33] <flowingfire> I don't know what strangeness is up here...
[07:33] <soyporti> is the first time you install ?
[07:33] <AdriansU> hi everyone
[07:33] <WantlessPower> hey
[07:33] <AdriansU> @vnc
[07:33] <Bulltitan> hi
[07:33] <AdriansU> !vnc
[07:33] <ubotu> VNC is a protocol for remote desktop. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNCOverSSH describes how to use it securely.  It works best over fast connections, otherwise look at !FreeNX
[07:33] <Nubbie> !sudo | soyporti
[07:33] <ubotu> soyporti: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[07:33] <Bulltitan> i have a samll question
[07:33] <WantlessPower> is there anyone in here willing to walk me through installing nspluginwrapper and getting flash to work?
[07:33] <soyporti> of course sudo
[07:33] <soyporti> he doesnt know the password
[07:33] <flowingfire> soyporti: Third install of feisty-- the other ones got screwed up because of hardware issues and me going into xorg.conf and the like.... and this is not my first installation of wine by any means...
[07:33] <Bulltitan> can i comment the entry of a kernel i dont use in grub so it wont show up in the boot menu?
[07:34] <soyporti> what password did you use last time??
[07:34] <WantlessPower> is there anyone in here willing to walk me through installing nspluginwrapper and getting macromedia flash to work?
[07:34] <Nubbie> flowingfire: if you ever have problems with xorg in the future,  you can always fix it with a sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[07:34] <flowingfire> thx nubbie...
[07:34] <Nubbie> !flash | wantlesspower (that should help you with flash)
[07:34] <ubotu> wantlesspower (that should help you with flash): To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[07:35] <orbin> Bulltitan: yes.  though i usually leave the older ones in as a failsafe
[07:35] <flowingfire> soyporti: I logged in with my user password, but neither automatix2 nor adept manager asked for it.
[07:35] <flowingfire> They just gave me a bunch of errors.
[07:35] <deafboy> wow with wine is hardlocking my computer and causing it to crash #winehq says its an ubuntu specific issue, anyone got some information?
[07:35] <Bulltitan> well this time the one not working for me is the new in feisty
[07:35] <soyporti> is really strange?
[07:35] <Nubbie> flowingfire: you shouldn't use automatix, it will probably break your system.
[07:35] <nexusSTONE> hi
[07:36] <deafboy> wow with wine is hardlocking my computer and causing it to crash #winehq says its an ubuntu specific issue, anyone got some information?
[07:36] <kahrytan> How many newbies  have any trouble with installing 7.04 from 6.10?
[07:36] <marlon_> hello there
[07:36] <nexusSTONE> me
[07:36] <nexusSTONE> but its a new install tot
[07:36] <Nubbie> deafboy: is it a 3d application?
[07:36] <AdriansU> hello
[07:36] <soyporti> Nubbie could you explain that in detail? really i'm using it because it's easy but do you think that??
[07:36] <marlon_> not me feisty is perfect
[07:36] <Nubbie> deafboy: do you have your drivers set up for 3d?
[07:36] <Bulltitan> i did it using the upgrade process kahrytan
[07:36] <nexusSTONE> I'm using winfast graphics card and x window seems to have problems during install
[07:37] <AdriansU> some one can say me something about using vnc client on linux for access to a vnc server window machine?
[07:37] <Nubbie> soyporti: are you using feisty? theres a great meta-package that should install it for you
[07:37] <deafboy> Nubbie: yes i do, fglrx
[07:37] <soyporti> yes
[07:37] <kahrytan> bulltitan, Now I have a name to blame for Repo slowness then.
[07:37] <soyporti> my real problem is with amsn
[07:37] <Bulltitan> :P
[07:37] <crolle17> hi guys i installed vmware-player (somehow) and got windows 2000 running in it. but how to say its browser to listen at localhost port 3000 ?
[07:37] <Nubbie> deafboy: fglrx doesn't do DRI, which may be why you're locking up.
[07:37] <soyporti> and with gyache
[07:37] <deafboy> Nubbie: it doesnt do composite w/ dri
[07:37] <kahrytan> They really need to make an Upgrade CD
[07:37] <deafboy> Nubbie: it does DRI
[07:38] <Nubbie> ohhh true.
[07:38] <deafboy> Nubbie: i have 3d acceleration
[07:38] <Bulltitan> i was like hum a day online to have it finally installed
[07:38] <crdlb> deafboy: what card?
[07:38] <solom0nn> does anyone know how the ata# entries in dmesg correspond to normal /dev/sd# devices?
[07:38] <deafboy> crdlb: x1600
[07:38] <Bulltitan> a long time i'll say
[07:39] <nexusSTONE> hi deafboy, by 3D acceleration, do u mean integrated graphics?
[07:39] <deafboy> nexusSTONE: nope ati x1600, running fglrx
[07:39] <nexusSTONE> oops
[07:39] <soyporti> nubbie thanks anyway i must go bye flowingfire and good luck
[07:39] <Bulltitan> another weird thing that i also noticed was a strange square that appears in the lupper left par of the screen , that was after changing resolutins
[07:40] <t0nia> wat does alsa do?
[07:40] <Bulltitan> relsolutions i say
[07:40] <crolle17> forget my question. got it...
[07:40] <Nubbie> t0nia: its the sound server.
[07:40] <Nubbie> t0nia: takes all audio from your system, and puts it to your audio card all at once.
[07:41] <t0nia> not mine
[07:41] <Nubbie> t0nia: before alsa, some programs could "steal" your sound card.
[07:41] <deafboy> Nubbie: wine hq claims its my drivers as no app should be able to hardlock my computer.....
[07:41] <Nubbie> deafboy: the wine guys are weird... their software is just as prone to lock your computer as any other software.
[07:42] <kahrytan> bulltitan, You hear. A New Kernel is released.
[07:42] <harry> I am trying to rip a cd as FLAC w/ Sound Juicer, but when I click extract, it tells me "Sound Juicer could not extract this CD. Reason: File not found"
[07:42] <t0nia> i went to sys prefs sound and set everything to ALSA
[07:43] <deafboy> Nubbie: i just thought it was a driver issue because APPDb says it works flawlessly in feisty
[07:43] <Nubbie> deafboy: what are you trying to run in wine first of all?
[07:43] <JonNC> damn xp running in vmware on ubuntu is fast :D
[07:43] <Dell-Net> any good program to record from a videocamera ?
[07:43] <mandaman2k> hey all. im new to ubuntu, and i just wanted to know whats the main difference beetween. ubuntu, kubuntu, xubuntu??
[07:44] <deafboy> Nubbie: WoW, has worked many times pre-feisty
[07:44] <Bulltitan> the video has no problem with the new kernel but modem just died with it also so i think i choose modem over the hum funny square
[07:44] <t0nia> now i get errors
[07:44] <Dell-Net> mandaman2k: kubuntu is kde
[07:44] <JonNC> ubuntu = gnome, kubuntu = kde, xubuntu = xfce
[07:44] <Dell-Net> right :)
[07:44] <psycop> what can i use to make dvd's into ISOs?
[07:45] <kkerwin> Hi. #vmware seems awfully quite, but does anyone know how to image an existing harddisk to run vmware off of that image?
[07:45] <t0nia> gconfaudiosrc ! audioconvert ! audioresample ! gconfaudiosink profile=chat: Could not open resource for writing.
[07:45] <mandaman2k> mmm, and does that change alot on how they work??
[07:46] <Nubbie> dell-net: use kino
[07:46] <Nubbie> psycop: use gnome-baker
[07:47] <t0nia> its a old SB live card
[07:47] <alysander_> psycop: use dvdshrink with wine
[07:47] <psycop> :p
[07:48] <mandaman2k> can i install nautilus unde XFCE???
[07:48] <WantlessPower> is anyone here willing to help me get flash to work with firefox?
[07:48] <WantlessPower> i've tried gnash
[07:48] <WantlessPower> but i'm not sure what i'm doing wrong
[07:49] <kahrytan> mandaman2k: Nautilus sucks anyways. Why do you want it?
[07:49] <kkerwin> Hi. #vmware seems awfully quite, but does anyone know how to image an existing harddisk to run vmware off of that image?
[07:50] <Dell-Net> Nubbie: does it find my device to ?
[07:50] <MajorApus> so my ssh isn't working outside of my lan, I think I have port 22 forwarded
[07:50] <kahrytan> kkerwin: You'd need hard drive image software for one. And find a way to restore in vmware.
[07:50] <Nubbie> dell-net: i think it should. i don't have a dv camera, i wouldn't know.
[07:51] <kkerwin> kahrytan: Yes, I'm looking for a program to create the image.
[07:51] <Nubbie> kkerwin: you can do it with mkfs i think.
[07:51] <mandaman2k> well, my main problem is that i have windows pc, and i would like to share files between them, and Xubuntu doesn't support network viewing undert its filesystem, so i dont know what else to do
[07:51] <psycop> how do i bypass css encodings with linux?
[07:51] <Nubbie> kkerwin: read it's manpage, i'm kinda sure you can.
[07:51] <Nubbie> !restricted | psycop
[07:51] <ubotu> psycop: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[07:51] <mikeyhatesms> help! i'm looking at the instlux download page, which seems to be recommended by ubuntu/canonical, but i don't know which version to install?  can someone look at the page for a sec and help me thru this?  http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=151507&package_id=192787&release_id=424139
[07:52] <d0lph1nK1ng> how do i make my ubuntu use eth2 for an internet connection? (for ubuntu inside of vmware)
[07:52] <kkerwin> Nubbie: Ok. Thank you.
[07:52] <Dell-Net> Nubbie: ok thanks
[07:52] <kahrytan> psycop: VideoLAN has libdvdcss2 on their servers. Use google to search on their site.
[07:52] <Nubbie> np guys
[07:52] <Nubbie> mikeyhatesms: what is that?
[07:52] <t0nia> wat is katapult?
[07:53] <psycop> yes but can i use libdvdcss2 to bypass the encoding so i can make a .iso or only watch it?
[07:53] <mikeyhatesms> supposed to be automatic installer i guess nubbie
[07:53] <Nubbie> mikeyhatesms: you know there is an installer on the ubuntu cd right?
[07:53] <mikeyhatesms> i think i will never get ubuntu installed
[07:53] <mikeyhatesms> i don't have cd
[07:54] <Nubbie> mikeyhatesms: whatever this program is, its not by ubuntu.
[07:54] <kandala> Hello all, I installed Ubuntu 6.06 on one of my internal servers. Looks like the X-windowing system is not installed by default. How do I install x-windows using apt-get?
[07:54] <Nubbie> mikeyhatesms: then use a flash drive or a removable hard drive or something.
[07:54] <kkerwin> Nubbie: mkfs is just a frontend; why kind of file system am I trying to create?
[07:54] <kkerwin> isofs?
[07:54] <deafboy> Nubbie: know anyone running fglrx drivers having issues, i heard the newest kernel has issues with fglrx
[07:54] <Nubbie> kandala: sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg
[07:54] <arfy> hi all. When ttrying to do anything with a mounted Usb volume, such as changing ownership with chown, I get an error about not beeing privilaged to eject this volume... any suggestions?
[07:54] <kandala> Nubbie: ok! Thanks :-)
[07:55] <mikeyhatesms> hey, you don't sound like a newbie, nubbie :)
[07:55] <kkerwin> Ooops. Poor Nubbie. Looks like he's getting hounded.
[07:55] <Nubbie> nubbie as in no hands ;)
[07:55] <mikeyhatesms> uuuuuhhhhh, ok
[07:55] <Nubbie> deafboy: i don't know, i stopped using fglrx once the radeon drivers were improved.
[07:56] <mandaman2k> well, my main problem is that i have windows pc, and i would like to share files between them, and Xubuntu doesn't support network viewing undert its filesystem, so i dont know what else to do, any ideas???
[07:56] <deafboy> Nubbie: do they support the x1000 series yet
[07:56] <Nubbie> deafboy: if you're relatively sure it's not a wine problem, it most likely has something to do with your vid card.
[07:56] <t0nia> i just google it
[07:56] <deafboy> Nubbie: used to work fine in edgy XD
[07:56] <kkerwin> The radeon drivers were improved? Cool! Wonder if they got the 9600 mobility fixed ...
[07:56] <Nubbie> deafboy: i dunno i use radeon 9550
[07:57] <PerfectStranger_> Nubbie am i correct in saying that if the downloaded version of ubuntu is burned to a disk it will fun from the cd drive with out having to install it ??
[07:57] <mikeyhatesms> ok, let me try something else. is there anyone in south florida who can help me do install?
[07:57] <deafboy> Nubbie: yep my card is too new /cry
[07:57] <jessid> hello. is there any test i can do to see if the modem is configured? thanks!
[07:57] <Nubbie> perfectstranger_: yeah the ubuntu installer is run from within a live session.
[07:57] <Nubbie> perfectstranger_: you don't have to install it from the cd.
[07:58] <mikeyhatesms> that's what i need, the live cd.
[07:58] <jessid> !modem
[07:58] <hwMoD> @ your service
[07:58] <ubotu> You want to connect via dial-up? Read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DialupModemHowto
[07:58] <t0nia> they need to make a noobuntu just for mee
[07:58] <Nubbie> mikeyhatesms: download ubuntu desktop image.
[07:59] <mikeyhatesms> ya, i think i did, but i can
[07:59] <Nubbie> t0nia: does you sound work at all?
[07:59] <mikeyhatesms> can't burn it
[07:59] <t0nia> nop
[07:59] <mikeyhatesms> no burner
[07:59] <T4U> Hi how do i connect and setup to go into a efnet server?
[07:59] <Nubbie> mikeyhatesms: then you can extract the .iso onto a flash drive or a removable hard drive.
[07:59] <mikeyhatesms> you overestimate me
[08:00] <Nubbie> mikeyhatesms: you're running windows right now?
[08:00] <mikeyhatesms> ya, xp
[08:00] <Nubbie> mikeyhatesms: install winrar, then open up the iso file you downloaded with that.
[08:00] <Nubbie> mikeyhatesms: then you can copy the files in the .iso file onto a flash drive or a removable hard drive.
[08:00] <Nubbie> mikeyhatesms: then boot from that.
[08:01] <mikeyhatesms> oh, no, don't have a flsh drive that large and no removeable hard drive
[08:02] <mikeyhatesms> so i will have to figure out where to get a live cd i guess
[08:02] <Nubbie> !shipit | mikeyhatesms (if you don't mind waiting a couple weeks, ubuntu will ship you installation cds!)
[08:02] <ubotu> mikeyhatesms (if you don't mind waiting a couple weeks, ubuntu will ship you installation cds!): shipit is a service that sends free Ubuntu, Kubuntu and Edubuntu CDs. See http://shipit.ubuntu.com/ and http://shipit.kubuntu.org and http://shipit.edubuntu.org - Shipit will send Feisty (7.04) CDs
[08:02] <noiesmo> does dhclient create a lock file if so where might it be kept is it possible its not being removed on system reboot?
[08:02] <t0nia> 1GB usb sticks are like 15$ at staples
[08:03] <kkerwin> t0nia: Man, those things sure did drop in price!
[08:03] <mikeyhatesms> oh, i thought i heard they weren't shipping cds anymore
[08:03] <guhhh> does anybody knows why i cant find the package: libapache-mod-php5 on feist?
[08:03] <t0nia> i backed all my edgy stuff to it
[08:03] <mikeyhatesms> ok, i will go do that, thanks guys
[08:03] <Nubbie> mikeyhatesms: as long as mark shuttleworth has money and a desire to take over the linux world, he will send you free cds.
[08:04] <mikeyhatesms> that is great; i hope his money holds out another week or two ... :)
[08:04] <t0nia> my sound didnt work in edgy either
[08:04] <mikeyhatesms> i heard bill gates is recommending ubuntu now
[08:05] <mikeyhatesms> hahahaha .. nite guys
[08:05] <guhhh> lol
[08:05] <t0nia> who?
[08:06] <Nubbie> t0nia: check if theres a restricted driver disabled, and then check creative's website.
[08:06] <t0nia> creative doesnt support anything
[08:06] <Nubbie> mikeyhatesms: i doubt that.
[08:06] <Nubbie> t0nia: i know lol.
[08:06] <t0nia> i have a muvo that never worked
[08:06] <Nubbie> t0nia: i was pissed when they decided to just go with microsoft's MTP firmware for my mp3 player.
[08:07] <Nubbie> t0nia: my next mp3 player will be an ipod with rockbox.
[08:07] <t0nia> i have 2 ipods now :)
[08:07] <snapAMD> trying to install the ia32libs but the darn ubuntu servr keeps timing out on me
[08:07] <Nubbie> t0nia: ship it that, i'll ship you a sound card that works :D
[08:07] <mikeyhatesms> went to shipit.ubuntu.com says it is not available right now
[08:08] <t0nia> maybe the mobo sound will work
[08:08] <Nubbie> mikeyhatesms: the shipit service is still available, but their website is having problems.
[08:09] <mikeyhatesms> ok, will check later
[08:09] <t0nia> itunes is shitty
[08:09] <Nubbie> tonia: yeah i'm sure it will. change your audio device in Volume Control
[08:09] <mikeyhatesms> tOnia said 'shitty'
[08:09] <t0nia> ehee
[08:10] <Nubbie> t0nia: which is why i will never use it. check out banshee, it's 20 times as good already.
[08:10] <Nubbie> mikeyhatesms: its 2AM, i doubt the PG rules are in strict enforcement right now :L
[08:10] <what_if> I have a problem, when I put my computer name in when installing ubuntu, the hosts file lists as both X.Y.COM and X.Y.com.Y.com
[08:11] <what_if> how does one fix this ?
[08:11] <Q_Continuum> Am I the only one having https://help.ubuntu.com/ time out?  (non-https seems to be working)
[08:11] <Nubbie> what_if: just edit the hosts file?
[08:11] <what_if> Nubbie: thats all well and good, but how do I get it to not do that in the first place ?
[08:12] <t0nia> we cant say bad words?
[08:12] <what_if> f-no, lol
[08:12] <t0nia> ohhh
[08:12] <t0nia> sorry
[08:13] <Nubbie> what_if: add this line: <IP_ADDRESS>	HOSTNAME
[08:13] <t0nia> no banshee for osx?
[08:14] <Nubbie> t0nia: what are you doing using osx :l
[08:14] <Nubbie> t0nia: banshee is a reason to switch to linux full time ;)
[08:14] <t0nia> i have a mac too
[08:14] <what_if> Nubbie: its already there :)
[08:14] <orbin> Q_Continuum: neither loads for me.
[08:15] <kshcshbas1> I've got svn-serve setup on a machine. I can do stuff from localhost, but it doesn't work from a different box, and it doesn't show on nmap. Any ideas why?
[08:15] <t0nia> i only have usb 1.1 on this puter
[08:15] <Nubbie> how old is it?
[08:15] <Nubbie> lol
[08:15] <Q_Continuum> I can reach http://www.ubuntu.com but anything on any sub-domain (the entire help system, all over https) times out.
[08:15] <Nubbie> Q_continuum: shipit site is 503'ing
[08:16] <sumigamer> does anyone here know whether Ubuntu ships CDs to India???
[08:16] <zouzou85> guys, how do i change the bootsplash in gnome?
[08:17] <irawan> anyone with xerox phaser printer?
[08:17] <kshcshbas1> I've got svn-serve setup on a machine. I can do stuff from localhost, but it doesn't work from a different box, and it doesn't show on nmap. Any ideas why?
[08:17] <MajorApus> will open ssh server work before the user logs in? (ie log in screen displaying on local screen, could someone ssh at that point)
[08:17] <Nubbie> simigamer: they ship anywhere, but there may be some tariffs when they get to your door.
[08:17] <irawan>  anyone with xerox phaser printer?
[08:17] <zouzou85> guys, how do i change the bootsplash in gnome?
[08:18] <Nubbie> !patience | kshcshbas1
[08:18] <Nubbie> zouzou85: there is a program that will do it. check system > administration
[08:19] <t0nia> all my music is on my XP box
[08:19] <noiesmo> kshcshbas1, did you open ports on firewall on box running svn-server
[08:20] <Nubbie> t0nia: t0nia: check this out: http://www.snorp.net/log/tangerine/
[08:20] <t0nia> does feisty support external drives?
[08:20] <Nubbie> t0nia: share your music with all your other machines.
[08:20] <kshcshbas1> noiesmo: I'm going to check my iptables when I get a chance to acecss the machine. The guy who I need to get my SSH pass from isn't around at the moment
[08:20] <clutchmm> what is the terminal command to install an rpm package?
[08:21] <t0nia> kool
[08:21] <noiesmo> !alien
[08:21] <Patriot> hi all
[08:21] <Nubbie> clutchmm: why are you using an rpm package?
[08:21] <progress0r> evening all. I'm running ubuntu 7 and need the c headers for the kernel. Anyone know what these are called in the repo? I grabbed some already but vmware is complaining about a nonexisting 'linux' directory.
[08:21] <irawan> anyone with clue for xerox phaser printer?
[08:22] <MajorApus> anyone use pfsense?
[08:22] <Patriot> does anybady know link to: howto install ZyXEL WiFi PCI card? Ubuntu 6.10
[08:22] <jpjacobs> progress0r, i think it's linux-source-<version>
[08:22] <clutchmm> Nubbie: it's all I found, I want to install a vnc server on my moms machine
[08:22] <Nubbie> irawan: don't repeat your questions, if somebody knew the answer they'd tell you.
[08:22] <EmxBA> Patriot:  sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r)
[08:22] <snapAMD> anyone else have connection speed problems with 64bit Fiesty?
[08:22] <progress0r> jpjacobs: thanks let me verify what i have
[08:22] <Nubbie> clutchmm: there are vnc servers in repositories. you should look for software in synaptic before looking to the internet.
[08:23] <clutchmm> just check for VNC?
[08:23] <progress0r> jpjacobs: yep thats what i have - linux-headers-2.6.20-15. Do I need to make these?
[08:23] <MajorApus> where are the repositories?
[08:23] <thebillywayne> my swap isn't being used.  is it likely a problem in /etc/fstab?
[08:23] <thebillywayne> when I say my swap isn't be used, i mean it's showing 0 available.
[08:24] <djphatjive> sup
[08:24] <thebillywayne> yo
[08:24] <Nubbie> progress0r: run uname -r
[08:24] <djphatjive> just got this thing working on my laptop
[08:24] <og01> progress0r: the only linux dir i know of is in /usr/src/linux and this should be a symlink to your current linux sources - i maybe well off the subject here though
[08:24] <thebillywayne> djphatjive, sweet.  welcome to Ubuntu.
[08:24] <t0nia> y0
[08:25] <progress0r> Nubbie: yeah i was wondering if that was the correct version. thanks.
[08:25] <djphatjive> yep, duel boot with xp, because I need some of those windows programs
[08:25] <Nubbie> np.
[08:25] <clutchmm> Nubbie: what am I looking for in the repos? I did a search for vnc and got nothing
[08:25] <progress0r> og01: good idea. ill look there. thanks
[08:25] <thebillywayne> djphatjive, try running windows apps through wine.
[08:26] <thebillywayne> !qemu | djphatjive
[08:26] <djphatjive> yea im going to give that a try here soon, haven't ever done that
[08:26] <djphatjive> yea i have used qemu before
[08:26] <djphatjive> is there a way to boot up my XP from within ubuntu in a window?
[08:26] <Patriot> EmxBA: what's next
[08:27] <shirish> does anybody from where I can download the alternate 7.04 .iso torrent
[08:27] <thebillywayne> !qemu
[08:27] <thebillywayne> !windows
[08:27] <thebillywayne> !botsnack
[08:27] <shirish> !info qemu
[08:27] <noiesmo> djphatjive, short answer no you can create an image with qemu
[08:28] <djphatjive> hmmm of well, man that would be cool though.
[08:28] <tonyyarusso> !torrents | shirish
[08:28] <EmxBA> Patriot: maybe you need sudo apt-get install build-essential
[08:28] <tonyyarusso> doh
[08:28] <djphatjive> ill go install wine
[08:28] <EmxBA> and try compiling after that, Patriot
[08:28] <thebillywayne> djphatjive, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsXPUnderQemuHowTo
[08:28] <tonyyarusso> shirish: releases.ubuntu.com
[08:28] <djphatjive> cool, i'll same that and look at it
[08:29] <EmxBA> sorry, that was intended to progress0r , not to Patriot . sorry :(
[08:29] <shirish> tonyyarusso: thanx
[08:29] <progress0r> aha - there's a linux dir under linux-headers-2.6.20-15/include. excellent.
[08:29] <shirish> btw guys, if its an ntfs partition, can ubuntu re-partition it as an ext3 while doing the install?
[08:29] <djphatjive> do i just need wine? or do I  need to install anything else?
[08:30] <kahrytan> djphatjive, VMware just as good
[08:30] <sponix> could there be a patch, like ubuntu7.05 that would support my ATI X1400 video card again (like 6.10 did) ? :)
[08:30] <djphatjive> true, used that to boot linux from within XP before
[08:31] <djphatjive> and also used Qemu too to do the same thing
[08:31] <kahrytan> djphatjive, VMware works in Linux
[08:31] <sponix> seems odd that ubuntu took a step backward on my video support ... really its X 7.2 that put me in the dark, 7.1 works fine with the default "ati" driver
[08:31] <djphatjive> my laptop has an ATI card
[08:31] <djphatjive> works right out of the box
[08:32] <djphatjive> its an old 9100 igp too
[08:32] <xSUSHix> but with 3d rendering?
[08:32] <djphatjive> yes
[08:32] <Patriot> EmxBA: actualy i have inserted this card and don't know what to do. so i'd like to read any howto.
[08:32] <Patriot> lspci gives to me this: 09:00.0 Network controller: ZyDAS Technology Corp. Unknown device 2116 (rev 01)
[08:32] <Patriot> howtos in google told me about different manufactures except zyxel, which haven't any drivers for linux (or i didn't find it)
[08:32] <xSUSHix> oh
[08:32] <sponix> djphatjive:  radeon X1400 ?
[08:32] <djphatjive> Cube and all
[08:32] <kahrytan> djphatjive, http://www.linuxhelp.net/guides/vmware/
[08:32] <xSUSHix> Question - kiba-dock is "always on top"    and there is no setting to make it not stay on top - how do i fix this ?
[08:32] <djphatjive> my laptop is 4 years old, has ATI 9100 IGP with a broadcom wireless
[08:32] <sponix> I had to boot, install a 55Meg ATI driver from their website off of a thumbdrive, and then run gdm to install graphically
[08:32] <djphatjive> My god was that wireless a pain
[08:32] <shirish> guys if a disk  is NTFS while installing ubuntu to that disk would it be able to wipe that ntfs partition & make them ext3 partitions ?
[08:33] <ubotu> kshcshbas1: The people here are volunteers, your attitude may determine how fast you are helped.  Not everyone is available all the time, likewise not every answer is available instantly. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[08:33] <thebillywayne> would replacing the swap UUID with it's device name /dev/sda3 in my fstab affect whether or not it gets used?
[08:33] <ubotu> RPM is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu uses !APT, not RPM. RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous)
[08:33] <djphatjive> Thanks for the vmware link i saved that to look at it also
[08:33] <rbwell> Is there a daemon tools like program for ubuntu?
[08:33] <ubotu> djphatjive: qemu is an emulator you can use to run another operating system - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsXPUnderQemuHowTo
[08:33] <ubotu> For help with Microsoft Windows, please visit ##windows or your nearest mental health institute. See http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm and !equivalents
[08:33] <ubotu> Yum!
[08:33] <ubotu> qemu: fast processor emulator. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.8.2+dfsg-0ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 3465 kB, installed size 9460 kB (Only available for amd64 i386 powerpc alpha sparc arm s390 kfreebsd-i386 kfreebsd-amd64)
[08:33] <ubotu> shirish: Torrent downloads for the Ubuntu ISOs are available on all the download pages. For Feisty: http://releases.ubuntu.com/feisty/ (CDs) or http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/7.04/release/ (DVDs)
[08:34] <thebillywayne> ubotu's back in the game!
[08:34] <shirish> yup, he is though l8t though
[08:34] <pwuertz> rbwell: its not needed, because the ability to mount images of file systems is integrated in linux
[08:34] <shirish> I think he went for a snack
[08:34] <xSUSHix> whats faster?   qemu or vmware ?
[08:35] <thebillywayne> i tried to feed him.
[08:35] <shirish> I know
[08:35] <shirish> !ubotusnack
[08:35] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ubotusnack - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:35] <thebillywayne> must've had something better somewhere else.
[08:35] <djphatjive> I tried Xubuntu before this. Kept crashing on me
[08:35] <thebillywayne> some pizza with anchovies.
[08:35] <xSUSHix> Question - kiba-dock (some launcher bar app) is always on top of other windows and there is no setting to make it not stay on top - how do i fix this ?
[08:35] <SithToast> guys i need help with grub error 22. i just installed ubuntu on my spare hdd too
[08:35] <shirish> !botsnack
[08:35] <ubotu> Yum!
[08:35] <t0nia> byeeeeeeeeeeee
[08:35] <magnetron> ubotu, tell shirish about botsnack
[08:36] <shirish> !info botsnack
[08:36] <ubotu> Package botsnack does not exist in feisty
[08:36] <shirish> lol
[08:36] <thebillywayne> @color botsnack
[08:36] <extaskara> greetings.. does anyone know what package in feisty allows nautilus to browse networks (i.e samba network)
[08:36] <kahrytan> Linux sucks
[08:36] <SithToast> do i need to rebuild grub? O_o
[08:36] <shirish> magnetron: that's a cool trick to know
[08:37] <djphatjive> my samba just worked when i installed it
[08:37] <pwuertz> extaskara: its integrated
[08:37] <xSUSHix> sithtoast : which partition is your /boot located on (which has the grub info)
[08:37] <pwuertz> extaskara: just go for locaton "smb://yourhost"
[08:37] <thebillywayne> SithToast, try activating the 2nd hdd in your BIOS.
[08:37] <extaskara> pwuertz: network:/// doesn't autodiscover for me, it's a manual install
[08:37] <djphatjive> Linux is cool, it has taken them 15 years to get to where my old windos 98 can do
[08:37] <extaskara> pwuertz: smb:// works..
[08:37] <shirish> magnetron: do u know anything how the partition behaves if it sees an ntfs partition, would it over-write or not to make an ext3 partition?
[08:37] <kandala> Nothing happens when I login to my xserver. It displays the splash screen for a while and even that disappears after a sometime.....
[08:38] <SithToast> xsushix: how can i tell O_o
[08:38] <sanityx> Is there a place I can get detailed info about the alternate cd?
[08:38] <pwuertz> extaskara: I never used this workgroup thing, never worked correctly, even in windows ^^
[08:38] <xSUSHix> sithtoast where is ubuntu installed
[08:38] <efuzzyone> how do I upgrade to feisty from edgy using feist cd?
[08:39] <xSUSHix> !upgrade | efuzzyone
[08:39] <ubotu> efuzzyone: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[08:39] <extaskara> pwuertz: hehe.. well I have a full install on my laptop, and when I go to places, network it searches and finds my samba network. I can browse and it finds machines etc.. but on my desktop I didn't do a full install, just a basic gnome install and it doesn't autodiscover like my laptop..
[08:39] <extaskara> I'm wondering what package I didn't install for it to work..
[08:39] <pwuertz> samba maybe... but i'm not sure
[08:39] <Aryaaf_> meh,,,
[08:40] <extaskara> pwuertz: ok I'll give that a shot :) ta
[08:40] <wintermute> Hello everyone! I have a couple of really newbie questions to ask... couldn
[08:40] <magnetron> extaskara, mine too
[08:40] <magnetron> extaskara, mine worked from install too
[08:40] <wintermute>  ops, couldn't really find answers on google...
[08:40] <gordonjcp> don't ask to ask
[08:41] <sanityx> wintermute, ask away!
[08:41] <wintermute> Thanks mates
[08:41] <wintermute> Always good to be polite ;)
[08:41] <extaskara> pwuertz:  hmm.. no luck.. that only installed the samba daemon and I don't get autodiscover :(
[08:41] <extaskara> magnetron: thanks, you mean you install does autodiscover, or doesn't/
[08:41] <extaskara> wait wait wai..
[08:41] <extaskara> yep it's owrking now :)
[08:41] <sanityx> wintermute, Yup, and part of being polite in IRC is not asking to ask :-D
[08:41] <extaskara> log out and back in..
[08:41] <gordonjcp> wintermute: in this case it's more polite to just fire in and ask your question ;-)
[08:42] <clearzen> how can you use sshfs so you do not have to be root to access the files that have been mounted?
[08:42] <xSUSHix> Easy question - how do i stop the auto updater from wanting to update a certain package ?   I want to keep the same version of this package forever.
[08:42] <pwuertz> extaskara: so it was samba?
[08:42] <extaskara> pwuertz:  was just checking..
[08:42] <wintermute> ok... I have a laptop (currently being used) with a 1200x800 native resolution screen... If I change the resolution from 1024x768 to 1200x800 ubuntu goes all "funny"... It is like one virtual desktop is half on top of the other...
[08:42] <magnetron> clearzen, it's built in to GNOME. Places > connect to server
[08:42] <Nubbie> clearzen: chmod the folder that sshfs is mounting in so your user can read the files.
[08:43] <kritical> Does anyone know what it's called when you start an application via ssh that doesn't stop when your connection breaks?
[08:43] <extaskara> pwuertz: nope :) I removed samba and logged out and in and it still works.. it must have been one of the other packages I tried over the last hour but I had to log out and back in to load it or something :S
[08:43] <pwuertz> ^^
[08:43] <kandala> Help Please.... Nothing happens when I login to my xserver. It displays the splash screen for a while and even that disappears after sometime.....! Did I miss installing some dependency?
[08:43] <extaskara> pwuertz: so I'm not sure lol.. well thanks very much for your kindhelp
[08:43] <clearzen>  Nubbie: Tried it. But I'll try again
[08:43] <pwuertz> pn
[08:43] <pwuertz> np
[08:43] <magnetron> kritical: nohup
[08:44] <kritical> magnetron, hmm.. what I mean is.. so you can resume your shell any time you want..
[08:44] <wintermute> Hummm kritical I use ssh to log onto the sun solaris server at uni and nothing stays on after I close ssh...
[08:44] <xipietotec> I'm having serious errors on my laptop, involving dhcp. basically at work I'm routing to the wrong server, and at home while I'm routing to the correct one, the moment I try to go out to the internet it locks up
[08:44] <rbarlow> screen
[08:44] <clearzen> Nubbie: No dice. Any ideas?
[08:45] <rbarlow> kritical: screen [gnu screen]  is your answer
[08:45] <magnetron> kritical: listen to rbarlow
[08:45] <xipietotec> so if I ping google, the first few bits go through fine, and then it gives me this: ping: sendmsg Operation not permitted
[08:45] <kritical> magnetron, for instance.. I want to run the irssi irc client from a ssh client... but I want it to be online 24/7 regardless if my connection dies
[08:45] <kritical> Ahh screen! that's the one I was looking for, cheers =)
[08:45] <rbarlow> np
[08:45] <clearzen> Nubbie: Could I use fstab to assign the permissions of the mounted filesystem at the time of mount?
[08:45] <extaskara> btw, I did an install from here, in case you're interested.. a minimal install http://wiki.makethemove.net/index.php?title=CustomUbuntu
[08:45] <clearzen> Nubbie: Like a vfat system?
[08:46] <rbarlow> the best part about gnu screen is connection to an existing session using 'screen -r -d'
[08:46] <rbarlow> it's as though you never logged out
[08:46] <gordonjcp> kritical: irssi and screen ;-)
[08:46] <kandala> Help Please.... Nothing happens when I login to my xserver. It displays the splash screen for a while and even that disappears after sometime.....! Did I miss installing some dependency?
[08:46] <gordonjcp> rbarlow: or just "screen -rd"
[08:46] <MajorApus> how do I see what driver my nic card uses
[08:49] <wintermute> ChatZilla... Hahhahhaha
[08:49] <wintermute> Damn google, all it gives me is forum topics where people can
[08:50] <wintermute> not see the resolution they want !
[08:50] <extaskara> MajorApus: what wireless device do you have?
[08:50] <wintermute> I CAN see mine... just doesn't work...
[08:50] <magnetron> !enter | wintermute
[08:50] <ubotu> wintermute: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[08:50] <achandra> hey there..
[08:51] <wintermute> LOL sorry, I'm actually not used to this little keyboard and my long pinky keep touching the enter key
[08:51] <achandra> I need some help with Wireless Connection on Ubuntu 7.04
[08:51] <sanityx> Anybody know where I can find documentation for the alternate install cd? I haven't found anything adequate on the site.
[08:51] <MajorApus> extaskara: i dont have wireless, why would you assume that?
[08:51] <extaskara> MajorApus: because I miss read your question lol ;)
[08:51] <magnetron> !ask
[08:51] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[08:51] <wintermute> MajorApus: Prob cuz everyone has problems with wireless!
[08:51] <extaskara> MajorApus: what nic do u have?
[08:51] <MajorApus> extaskara: isn't there a command i can type to see the driver its using
[08:51] <achandra> the drivers are all done..
[08:52] <achandra> but I still cant connect to the net..
[08:52] <magnetron> wintermute, I have NO problem at all with wireless
[08:52] <snapAMD> can someone help me figure out why I can only get 10% of my available bandwith through my wireless
[08:52] <extaskara> MajorApus: ahh not that I know of. you can use `lspci |grep -i net` to see the device, then lsmod to see what modules are loaded
[08:52] <wintermute> magnetron: Nice for you mate! Took me a while to get mine working!
[08:52] <achandra> is there a way to see all available networks?
[08:52] <snapAMD> like is there a network setting i need to tweak
[08:52] <lnxnubie> sanityx: just start the installation and do what ever it says
[08:52] <magnetron> snapAMD: maybe you are too far from the acces point?
[08:52] <sanityx> lnxnubie, I know that. Ive been using ubuntu for a while now. I just want some specific info about it
[08:53] <snapAMD> no im getting great reception
[08:53] <sanityx> about the alternate cd that is
[08:53] <wintermute> Does anyone here have a "buggy" screen if they change resolutions ???
[08:53] <lnxnubie> sanityx: ya what ?
[08:53] <MajorApus> extaskara: where could I find out what driver its using?
[08:53] <achandra> is there a tool to view all available networks?
[08:53] <snapAMD> I have another machine running 32bit sitting here right next to this one
[08:53] <sanityx> achandra, Wifi networks?
[08:53] <achandra> yes..
[08:53] <achandra> yes anutyx
[08:53] <magnetron> wintermute: yes, you. go on, ask your question
[08:53] <snapAMD> its fine
[08:53] <sanityx> achandra, Are you running fesity?
[08:53] <MajorApus> extaskara: Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8111/8168B PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet controller (rev 01)
[08:53] <achandra> yes sanityx
[08:53] <achandra> yes.. 7.04
[08:53] <sanityx> achandra, Single click on the icon in the upper right for your wifi
[08:53] <sanityx> it will list all availible networks
[08:54] <achandra> it isnt listing..
[08:54] <achandra> :(
[08:54] <olrrai> hi, how to share a printer by samba?
[08:54] <sanityx> ooo. what kind of wifi card achandra
[08:54] <snapAMD> my only problems are slow  connect speed through wireless and trying to get wine to work under 64bit
[08:54] <ahh> et
[08:54] <achandra> Intel Pro/Wireless 2200 BG
[08:54] <achandra> Laptop..
[08:54] <sanityx> achandra, Interesting, My girlfriend has the same card and it worked out of the box
[08:54] <wintermute> magnetron: I have asked... waiting for answers. Maybe someone knows how to fix it!
[08:54] <achandra> okay..
[08:55] <achandra> how do I make sure everything is set right..
[08:55] <achandra> :)
[08:55] <sanityx> achandra, Not sure honestly. It just kinda . . . worked :-P
[08:55] <sanityx> I mean it listed networks and everything
[08:55] <achandra> its a dell inspiron 9300..
[08:55] <achandra> it should list them..
[08:55] <achandra> but i dont know whats wrong..
[08:55] <magnetron> wintermute, you said that your resolution "doesn't work". please be more specific
[08:56] <extaskara> MajorApus: ok, so you have a realtek device.. is it usb or pci?
[08:56] <MajorApus> extaskara: onboard
[08:57] <achandra> is there a way to turn on or off the wireless?
[08:57] <snapAMD> 32bit Fiesty machine pulling 2000Kbps   64bit fiesty machine getting 150 Kbps
[08:57] <MajorApus> extaskara: and you do realize you just asked if a gigabit network card was usb
[08:58] <wintermute> magnetron: Well the best way to describe it is when I change to 1200x800 it is like one virtual desktop is on top of the other, and when I start moving the mouse around the pointer gets corrupted (turns into a big square)...
[08:58] <anthony_> Hi, Im in ubuntu 6.10, if i run win xp in a vmware, will itunes work with my ipod ?
[08:58] <magnetron> wintermute: what graphics card? do you use beryl?
[09:00] <wintermute> mobility radeon 9600 kernel: 2.6.15-26-386 (is that beryl?)
[09:00] <snapAMD> ok plugged in an ethernet cable.....lets see
[09:01] <oldude67> hey is there a winamp for linux?
[09:01] <magnetron> wintermute: do you use desktop effects? what graphics driver do you use?
[09:01] <clearzen> oldude67: it's called xmms
[09:01] <clearzen> oldude67: vlc is actually maintained though
[09:01] <extaskara> MajorApus: ahh yes, indeed I did :) can you see if you have r8169 loaded?
[09:01] <MajorApus> extaskara: how?
[09:02] <extaskara> lsmod |grep r8169
[09:02] <ingo_> macbook
[09:02] <oldude67> clearzen: ok and is it a synaptic package or do i have to go to a web site?
[09:02] <MajorApus> extaskara: I had to run and check to make sure usb 2.0 wasn't gigabit, that would have been embarassing
[09:02] <extaskara> MajorApus:  nope, it's 480MBit ;)
[09:02] <WantlessPower> hey anyone good at installing wine?
[09:02] <wintermute> magnetron: no desktop effects, I have just installed Ubuntu. Drivers are the default ones. xorg.conf lists my video card correctly...
[09:02] <magnetron> oldude67: you could use beep media player, looks similar to winamp. install it through synaptic
[09:02] <clearzen> oldude67: synaptic will work fine. Or sudo apt-get install xmms
[09:03] <oldude67> clearzen: ok i have that and do you know if ubuntu is hard to install on a laptop?
[09:03] <magnetron> wintermute: then i don't know. i have nvidia myself.
[09:04] <clearzen> oldude67: It depends on the laptop really. Wireless can be a pain if your card isn't supported out of the box
[09:04] <WantlessPower> so is anyone here good at installing wine?
[09:04] <clearzen> But there is a lot of documentation
[09:04] <WantlessPower> or at least willing to help me?
[09:04] <extaskara> WantlessPower: apt-get install wine ? ;)
[09:04] <orbin> oldude67: go for magnetron's suggestion or use audacious.  xmms' controls are butt-ugly in gnome.
[09:04] <ravigr8> !cadega
[09:05] <MajorApus> extaskara: how do I see if I have r8169 loaded?
[09:05] <extaskara> MajorApus: oh, I already posted that.. run: `lsmod |grep r8169`
[09:05] <magnetron> WantlessPower: hi, installing Wine is easy, just add it in "add/remove programs". getting you windows software to work in wine is harder, it is only beta. see http://appdb.winehq.org
[09:05] <WantlessPower> it says package wine has no installation candidate
[09:05] <oldude67> clearzen: i cant use wireless cause of the construction of my house, is the a hard wire card that works best?
[09:05] <xSUSHix> how do i make the updater disregard a certain package?   i never want to update it.
[09:05] <wintermute> magnetron: thanks anyway man, any wild ideas on why? Should I try :( to get new drivers or something... OH something funny is that on xorg.conf there's no mention of 1200x1800 but on the GUI tool in gnome it does...
[09:06] <noiesmo> WantlessPower, have you enabled universe repo and updated
[09:06] <MajorApus> extaskara: it responsds "r8169                  32392  0"
[09:06] <extaskara> WantlessPower: what sources are you using? i have wine in mine..
[09:06] <extaskara> MajorApus: good, that's what you're using
[09:06] <Polis_ttt> how do i update my apt-get program? "update / upgrade" doen't work. For example now when i want to install 'flex' it says that the package coudn't be found, but a nother package refers to it
[09:06] <clearzen> oldude67: Yeah, you shouldn't have very many problems. The suspend/hibernate options can be a little buggy. Other than that I love it.
[09:06] <WantlessPower> how do i update universe?
[09:06] <magnetron> wintermute: maybe that is your problem.
[09:06] <shibz> Hi, I am having some trouble getting NFS to mount, can someone please help me... When I try to mount, I get this error -- mount: x.s:/mnt/rhae/root failed, reason given by server: Permission denied    My exports file is set up correctly... "/mnt/rhae       <IP_ADDRESS>(sync,ro,no_root_squash)"
[09:06] <magnetron> !resolutions | wintermute
[09:06] <oldude67> clearzen: thanks
[09:06] <MajorApus> extaskara: okay, its not one in the tutorial im looking at, so ... how do I tell it to enable WOL
[09:06] <extaskara> MajorApus: I don't know a command to print what device is using what module, but any module that is loaded is used by your system
[09:07] <xSUSHix> wantlesspower if universe is enabled in your repositories, sudo apt-get update
[09:07] <extaskara> MajorApus: absolutely no idea ;) in your bios maybe?
[09:07] <WantlessPower> how do i enable universe?
[09:07] <wintermute> magnetron: I know it smells fishy...
[09:07] <noiesmo> WantlessPower, gksu gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[09:07] <insta> what's the program I can run that will let me view my desktop later from another machine?
[09:07] <xSUSHix> wantlesspower go in synaptic and check the checkbox in repositories (in the menu)
[09:07] <ravigr8> !cadega ?
[09:07] <burwaco> hello everyone
[09:07] <magnetron> seems like ubotu has gone to sleep
[09:08] <magnetron> ravigr8, try wine instead.
[09:08] <xSUSHix> ravigr8 cedega can be obtained from www.transgaming.org and get wine from www.winehq.org
[09:08] <noiesmo> WantlessPower, then add universe multiverse to # Ubuntu community supported packages
[09:09] <burwaco> I have a problem with oss sound driver...
[09:09] <xSUSHix> insta : System->Preferences->Remote desktop        view youor desktop remotely with xvncviewer
[09:09] <burwaco> is there anyone good with sound ?
[09:09] <ravigr8> i hv tried wine & crossover both but just wnted to know about cadega
[09:09] <xSUSHix> ravigr8 www.transgaming.org
[09:09] <ravigr8> thanx
[09:09] <xSUSHix> ravigr8 i use all three personally
[09:09] <kahrytan> Cedega uses Wine.
[09:10] <xSUSHix> kahrytan cedega uses winex
[09:10] <magnetron> kahrytan, no i doesn't
[09:10] <burwaco> I try to play a game of et, with uses oss driver, an in the mean time use teamspeak, witch uses oss too... is this possible?
[09:10] <magnetron> kahrytan, no *it doesn't
[09:10] <kahrytan> And what is WinX?
[09:10] <sponix> anyone have a way for apt-get to retrieve (or make) a deb out of everything currently installed on your system ?
[09:10] <WantlessPower> ok i uncommented them
[09:10] <kahrytan> WineX
[09:10] <oldude67> ok, have beep running but it wont show videos like xine....is there one that both work on thats easy to transfer files from frostwire with?
[09:10] <xSUSHix> winex has different licensing and runs directx stuff
[09:10] <WantlessPower> and did sudo apt-get update
[09:10] <magnetron> kahrytan, winex is the old name of cedega
[09:11] <xSUSHix> wantlesspower noo - make sure they ARE checked
[09:11] <kahrytan> Okay then. It still uses Wine.
[09:11] <magnetron> kahrytan, no. see http://winehq.org/?issue=329#Cedega%206.0%20&%20Wine%20Benchmarks
[09:11] <WantlessPower> yeah yeah
[09:11] <kahrytan> and Wine is rumored to get DX10 soon. but just a rumor.
[09:11] <jack> hey everyone.  i've just moved from XP to Ubuntu.  having a little problem.  Ubuntu is telling me my computer does not support certain applications, when I used them frequently in XP.  any ideas?
[09:11] <burwaco> jack, like what apps ?
[09:11] <WantlessPower> i uncommented the two lines in soucres.list
[09:12] <clearzen> Can you use samba to access files mounted with sshfs?
[09:12] <WantlessPower> still says no installation candidate
[09:12] <jack> well, pretty much everything not already running from the add/remove list
[09:12] <kahrytan> see, Cedega is Wine based.
[09:13] <jack> like, python for example
[09:13] <jack> i used python25 IDLE on XP all the time.
[09:13] <jack> "IDLE cannot be installed on your computer type (i386). Either the application requires special hardware features or the vendor decided to not support your computer type."
[09:14] <magnetron> kahrytan, Cedega is based on the code that Wine had 5 years ago. since then, a lot of things have happened with both Wine and Cedega. they have basically no resemblance. Cedega does not use Wine.
[09:14] <burwaco> jack, python is in ubuntu, the ide might not run, check their website, I use eric as python IDE
[09:14] <noiesmo> WantlessPower, http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic/
[09:15] <kahrytan> magnetron: True, it's changes allot. But It wouldn't exist today if it wasn't for Wine.
[09:15] <jack> thanks, that's just one example.  it is giving me that message on pretty much every app listed
[09:15] <magnetron> kahrytan, you are right about that. it's good Wine became LGPL
[09:15] <WantlessPower> should i check nonstandard repositories?
[09:16] <cafuego> jack: I'd hazard that the installer is busted then.
[09:16] <kahrytan> magnetron: LGPL? (no url, please)
[09:16] <eltese> anyone good with dual screens on DVI and how to make the picture go from one monitor to the other pre-install? :)
[09:16] <Ultra5pam> Peninsule-Acadienne
[09:16] <burwaco> can I make 2 programs use the same sounddriver oss ?
[09:16] <noiesmo> WantlessPower, yes
[09:16] <magnetron> kahrytan, Lesser GNU Public License
[09:16] <burwaco> at the same time
[09:17] <jack> alright, i'll try a reinstall.  i'm sure i'll be back here soon.  thanks a lot everyone.
[09:17] <insmod> burwaco: ya you need a sound server like esd or artsd running though -- i use esd
[09:17] <burwaco> jack, why reinstall ?
[09:17] <fsd234> hey, im trying to install ubuntu but after the install disc loads the desktop my (ps/2) keyboard and mouse become unresponsive
[09:17] <fsd234> i cant even change numlock and i didnt have this problem in edgy
[09:18] <noiesmo> WantlessPower, dont forget to sudo apt-get update after edit sources.list
[09:18] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about cadega - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:18] <WantlessPower> yeah
[09:18] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about resolutions - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:18] <WantlessPower> i did that
[09:18] <fsd234> anyone know what the problem is ?
[09:18] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about cadega ? - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:18] <jack> someone had said the installer might be messed up
[09:18] <WantlessPower> and then tried to install wine
[09:18] <WantlessPower> still no installation candidate
[09:18] <Seften> hmm
[09:18] <burwaco> insmod, I'd like to play enemy territory and use teamspeak at the same time...
[09:18] <magnetron> welcome back, ubotu
[09:18] <Seften> ubotu just now answered
[09:18] <kahrytan> magnetron: Why is WIne LGPL  instead of GPL?
[09:18] <burwaco> insmod, both use oss driver
[09:18] <insmod> burwaco: ya you need a sound server
[09:18] <burwaco> like ack ?
[09:18] <burwaco> jack
[09:19] <jack> cafuego>	jack: I'd hazard that the installer is busted then.
[09:19] <roque> #brazilian
[09:19] <Ultra5pam> Prahu Oca Srbije
[09:19] <Ultra5pam>     Nek se ovaj vijek gordi nad svijema vjekovima,
[09:19] <Seften> i wish creative would come out with X-Fi drivers already
[09:19] <Ultra5pam>     on e era biti strana ljudskijema koljenima.
[09:19] <Ultra5pam>     U nj se osam blizanacah u jedan mah iznjihae
[09:19] <insmod> burwaco: jack is an audio server for programs -- more for recording studios using ardour
[09:19] <Ultra5pam>     iz kolevke Belonine, i na zemlji pokazae:
[09:19] <roque> #brasil
[09:19] <Ultra5pam>     Napoleon, Karlo, Bliher, knez Velington i Suvorov.
[09:19] <Ultra5pam>     Karaore, bi tirjanah, i varcenberg i Kutuzov.
[09:19] <Ultra5pam>     Arei je, strava zemna, slavom bojnom njih opio
[09:19] <Ultra5pam>     i zemlju im za poprite, da se bore, naznaio.
[09:19] <Ultra5pam>     Iz grmena velikoga lafu iza trudno nije,
[09:19] <noiesmo> WantlessPower, paste your sources.list in pastebin
[09:19] <Ultra5pam>     u velikim narodima geniju se gnj'jezdo vije:
[09:19] <Seften> spam?
[09:19] <Ultra5pam>     ovde mu je pogotovu materijal k slavnom djelu
[09:19] <Ultra5pam>     i trijumfa dini v'jenac, da mu krasi glavu smjelu.
[09:19] <kahrytan> The ops need to band UltraSpam
[09:19] <noiesmo> !pastebin
[09:19] <Ultra5pam>     Al' heroju topolskome, Karaoru besmrtnome,
[09:19] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel.   The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[09:20] <ingo_> is there anyone who knows a good newbie-reading on python?
[09:20] <noiesmo> WantlessPower, paste your sources.list plse
[09:20] <wintermute> wintermute
[09:20] <WantlessPower> just a sec
[09:21] <jack> ingo : python has an excellent guide on their site
[09:21] <wintermute> Can someone say my name so I see if Gaim sounds an alarm ?
[09:21] <WantlessPower> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17923/
[09:21] <ingo_> ok
[09:21] <kahrytan> I could say it but You can't hear it.
[09:21] <Seften> lol
[09:22] <burwaco> insmod, thanks, you hit the bulls-eye !!!
[09:22] <wintermute> kahrytan: Don't be a smart ass !
[09:22] <d0lph1nK1ng> anyone familiar w/ vpnc and routeing stuff?
[09:22] <cableroy> i have a problem, i use 7.04 but i need to install 2.6.17-11-i386 headers because i'm compiling a wlan driver. how can i do that?
[09:22] <wintermute> Ooohh cool has anyone seen the 3d desktop thingy... ???
[09:22] <WantlessPower> get it?
[09:23] <insmod> burwaco: :) i know
[09:23] <kahrytan> wintermute: Yes, my butt went to school with me.
[09:23] <Seften> compiz?
[09:23] <Seften> yes
[09:23] <wintermute> damn, it sounded no alarms...
[09:23] <sanityx> How can I grow an ext3 partition?
[09:23] <kahrytan> wintermute
[09:23] <noiesmo> WantlessPower, yeah
[09:24] <achandra> okay this wireless is irritating me! :)
[09:24] <achandra> can anyone help me to get this wireless up and running.. I am using a Intel Pro/Wireless 2200BG connection..
[09:24] <noiesmo> WantlessPower, this is mine and i can get wine no probs > http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17924/
[09:24] <noiesmo> WantlessPower, i am on au server but shouldnt matter
[09:25] <WantlessPower> just waiting for it to finish updating
[09:25] <insmod> achandra: sure
[09:26] <WantlessPower> shucks
[09:26] <WantlessPower> still no installation candidate
[09:26] <arooni> hey folks!
[09:26] <noiesmo> WantlessPower, Get:1 http://au.archive.ubuntu.com feisty/universe wine 0.9.33-0ubuntu1 [9807kB]
[09:26] <WantlessPower> am i spelling it right?
[09:27] <drbashir> I cant choose times new roman in Open Office, are there fonts that I need to install>
[09:27] <WantlessPower> sudo apt-get install wine
[09:27] <noiesmo> WantlessPower, yep
[09:27] <drbashir> !fonts
[09:27] <ubotu> Font installation basics here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FontInstallHowto - No fonts in Flash? Install "msttcorefonts" (from !Multiverse), "gsfonts", and "gsfonts-x11". No fonts in MPlayer? see !MPlayer
[09:28] <arooni> anyone know how to install freeimage?
[09:28] <ravigr8> !GPRS
[09:28] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about gprs - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:29] <magnetron> ravigr8: please message ubotu in private.
[09:29] <ravigr8> k
[09:29] <Ovir> you
[09:29] <WantlessPower> get what?
[09:29] <WantlessPower> http://au.archive.ubuntu.com feisty/universe wine 0.9.33-0ubuntu1?
[09:29] <WantlessPower> is it a command?
[09:29] <noiesmo> WantlessPower, that was just to show you I can install it
[09:29] <WantlessPower> oh lol
[09:30] <WantlessPower> it must be something other than sources.list
[09:30] <magnetron> WantlessPower: in add/remove programs, search for wine and install it
[09:31] <ivx> hey does anyone know of any good 3d games, that are free, and in the repos preferably
[09:31] <WantlessPower> i must be blind
[09:31] <magnetron> ivx: Nexuiz
[09:31] <WantlessPower> i can't see any add/remove programs
[09:31] <Cra1> ivx: America's Army is free, don't know if it's in the repos
[09:31] <hades_> morning :D
[09:32] <ivx> Cral they got a version for GNU/Linux?
[09:32] <magnetron> WantlessPower: it's in the programs menu
[09:32] <WantlessPower> oh.. there it is
[09:33] <WantlessPower> doesn't show up
[09:33] <tankcat> i just installed ubuntu on a amd 64 dual core machine. why, in System Monitor, is the second CPU at 100% constantly?
[09:33] <WantlessPower> wait yes it does
[09:33] <WantlessPower> i put wien lol
[09:34] <dinochopins> hi everyone
[09:34] <hades_> hi :D
[09:34] <Cra1> ivx: I haven''t looked around for it, but I've heard there is. check out this for more games: http://techgage.com/article/top_10_free_linux_games
[09:34] <dinochopins> i want to ask about bind 9 that is packaged with Ubuntu 6.06
[09:34] <WantlessPower> ugh
[09:34] <dinochopins> I want to setup my own authoritative domain.. let's say abcdefg.com
[09:34] <WantlessPower> nautilus is crapping out
[09:34] <HorizonXP> hey
[09:34] <dinochopins> I've setup my zone file
[09:34] <HorizonXP> i'm installing feisty, and i have to do manual partitions
[09:35] <dinochopins> called master.abcdefg
[09:35] <HorizonXP> what are good sizes for the root and swap partitions?
[09:35] <HorizonXP> also, is ext3 ok to use?
[09:35] <HorizonXP> or should I use ext2, or something else?
[09:35] <dinochopins> and /etc/resolv.conf already setup to local server... with no reference to outside nameserver
[09:35] <eck> HorizonXP: you should use ext3. I would recommend at least 4 GB or so for root, more if you can spare it
[09:35] <magnetron> HorizonXP: ext3 is good. for swap, use about as much as RAM that you have
[09:36] <dinochopins> but when I used nslookup => it cannot resolve abcdefg.com
[09:36] <py_> hello
[09:36] <WantlessPower> dah
[09:36] <WantlessPower> brb
[09:36] <dinochopins> I already check using named-checkconf and named-checkzone
[09:36] <kahrytan> magnetron: Whats the biggest swap can be?
[09:36] <burwaco> ?
[09:36] <cableroy> i have a problem, i use 7.04 but i need to install 2.6.17-11-i386 headers because i'm compiling a wlan driver. how can i do that?
[09:36] <HorizonXP> eck, magnetron: i have 45gb, ubuntu's my primary os, i just needed to isntall winxp for some stupid program; so I have 1.25gb of ram, use that for my swap, the rest as root?
[09:37] <dinochopins> but what make me more confuse.... when I try to resolve outsider domain (like yahoo.com) it still get resolved....
[09:37] <WantlessPower> still there?
[09:37] <py_> I just found out that to get feisty's fglrx to start on a mobility fireGL v5250, one has to disable framebuffer console (no vga kernel option at all), otherwise fglrx doesn't start with "PreInitDAL failed"
[09:37] <eck> HorizonXP: you don't need nearly that much swap unless you want to hibernate
[09:37] <magnetron> kahrytan: don't know if there is a limit anyore, there is not much reason for using infinite swap partitions for most people today
[09:37] <Javva> 2
[09:38] <eck> HorizonXP: ifyou want to hibernate you need at least as much swap as you have ram, otherwise a few hundred MB should be sufficient
[09:38] <WantlessPower> i guess i may have forgot to mention i'm running amd64 ubuntu
[09:38] <HorizonXP> eck: yeha, my pc's a little loud for me at night, so i'd like to hibernate. so 1.25 gb it is then
[09:38] <kahrytan> magnetron: I got twice my ram size for swap.
[09:38] <noiesmo> kahrytan, swap is norm 2x ram so if 256mb ram then 512mb swap
[09:38] <py_> perhaps it doesn't matter to anyone, but I searched for 3 days to figure that out, so maybe it can be useful to someone else
[09:39] <kahrytan> noiesmo: in theory, a 8gb ram machine needs a 16gb swap?
[09:39] <eck> noiesmo: if you have swap approaching 1 GB or so it's just going to hurt you when you have some runaway process taht would normally be OOM killed, it is not necessary to have 2x swap as you have ram
[09:39] <eck> kahrytan: definitely not
[09:39] <HorizonXP> eck: both as primary?
[09:39] <eck> HorizonXP: yeah, that's fine
[09:39] <HorizonXP> eck: so 3 primary partitions?
[09:40] <kahrytan> eck: What do you think 8gb ram machine should have?
[09:40] <HorizonXP> eck: 1 winxp, 1 swap, 1 root?
[09:40] <sdonahoe> Have an odd problem w/ sound in feisty - anyone care to venture a guess?
[09:40] <eck> kahrytan: 2 GB?
[09:40] <wintermute> If anyone has the resolution problem I was having or any other resolutions problems PV me cuz I think I've found the solution.
[09:40] <magnetron> !ask sdonahoe
[09:40] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ask sdonahoe - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:40] <eck> kahrytan: if you don't have enough the kernel won't use memory as efficiently as possible, but you don't want too much
[09:41] <eck> HorizonXP: yeah, you can always add an extended partition as the fourth partition if you need to later on
[09:41] <sdonahoe> running on a thinkpad t41 for a week, came out of hibernation and all sound has disappeared
[09:41] <eck> HorizonXP: you might want to do /home
[09:41] <kahrytan> eck:  But then the 8gb ram machine couldn't hibernate.
[09:41] <eck> kahrytan: you wouldn't hibernate a server...
[09:41] <kahrytan> eck:  It could be desktop
[09:41] <eck> kahrytan: then it's a desktop, not a server
[09:41] <HorizonXP> eck: that's a good idea... 10gb ok for root, rest as home?
[09:41] <sdonahoe> so update, upgrade all?
[09:41] <eck> HorizonXP: that sounds good
[09:42] <GNOME4EVER> kathrytan: whats up
[09:42] <kahrytan> eck:  Asus P5B has 8gb max
[09:42] <GNOME4EVER> kahrytan: whats up
[09:42] <snapAMD_> getting poor performance from wireless BCM43xx dirivers is there another solution -amd64bit-
[09:42] <HorizonXP> eck: cool.. yeah, i could always resize later
[09:42] <kahrytan> gnome4ever: have we talked?
[09:42] <eck> kahrytan: you can run a desktop as a server machine, but it's just a waste of your money :-P
[09:42] <sdonahoe> err, just coming on to this board for a bit of advice, hopefully
[09:42] <GNOME4EVER> kahrytan: yes you promised me blow jo&
[09:42] <ivx> snapAMD_ what card do you have? 4318?
[09:42] <kahrytan> eck: We arent talking about servers.
[09:43] <kerik> hey there...anybody here who know about .xsession-errors with evolution?
[09:43] <snapAMD_> it shows as a dell 1390
[09:43] <eck> HorizonXP: i find that my ubuntu uses ~6GB for / (not including /home) after I have lots of stuff installed, and you want more than that to have room to grow and avoid fragmentation
[09:43] <HorizonXP> eck: yeah, so 4gb should be enough margin i think?
[09:43] <eck> kahrytan: i'm not sure what else you would use that much ram for
[09:43] <kahrytan> eck: In theory.
[09:43] <eck> HorizonXP: it's plenty (more than i have ;-)
[09:44] <snapAMD_> i got it working  by installing ./install bcm43xx or whatever
[09:44] <ivx> snapAMD_ what are you using to run it NDIS wrapper or the firmware
[09:44] <HorizonXP> eck: i'll pull some from WinXP later if I need it
[09:44] <GNOME4EVER> kahrytan: no ban for me
[09:44] <snapAMD_> firmware
[09:44] <GNOME4EVER> kahrytan: ultra5pam
[09:44] <GNOME4EVER> kahrytan: :D
[09:44] <HorizonXP> eck: i haev a seperate 200gb drive for other crap if i need it anyway, so I doubt it'll get too huge
[09:44] <ivx> snapAMD_ and you not having problems, i used the firmware and it didn't get along with the kernel, i had to ndis it
[09:44] <magnetron> !language | GNOME4EVER
[09:44] <ubotu> GNOME4EVER: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[09:45] <eck> HorizonXP: you're lucky... i'm always running out of space
[09:45] <riaal> I want to format the second partion of my harddrive, ubuntu is on the first and the second is an empty ntfs partion, how to do this?? please
[09:45] <GNOME4EVER> !language | magnetron
[09:45] <ubotu> magnetron: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[09:45] <HorizonXP> eck: hey, wth, i can resize the windows partition now eh??
[09:45] <GNOME4EVER> !language | kathytan
[09:45] <ubotu> kathytan: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[09:45] <snapAMD_> ivx it is working "functioning" but very slow dialup speeds.....package manager keeps timing out and  stuff
[09:45] <GNOME4EVER> !language | kathytan
[09:45] <GNOME4EVER> !language | magnetron
[09:45] <GNOME4EVER> !language | kathytan
[09:45] <GNOME4EVER> !language | magnetron
[09:45] <Seften> quit spamming gnome
[09:45] <magnetron> !ops | GNOME4EVER
[09:46] <Seften> you're going to be kcied again
[09:46] <ubotu> GNOME4EVER: Help! Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Burgundavia, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal or mneptok
[09:46] <ivx> snapAMD_ it sounds like you ran a script from somewhere to install it, what did you use
[09:46] <Seften> he comes here often?
[09:46] <snapAMD_> ivx: ./install filemame i believe
[09:47] <Jack> okay, I think my problem was that i had downloaded the alternate install cd.  downloading regular iso now.
[09:47] <WantlessPower> god damn installing chroot takes forever
[09:47] <eck> WantlessPower: debootstrap?
[09:47] <snapAMD_> after i unpacked a tarball
[09:47] <ivx> snapAMD_ where did you read instructions at, i'll check them out
[09:47] <HorizonXP> eck: ok, i'm going to resize my WinXP partition from 30gb --> 20gb, leaving 6gb of space for it, which hopefully should be enough... i can't believe it already uses 14gb on a fresh install!.... i'll stick the spare 10gb into my home partition
[09:48] <WantlessPower> yeah
[09:48] <sphynx> hi all! I have a problem with Feisty. My laptop is widescreen (1680x1050) and I've told to Grub to use vga=0x307 parameter for my last kernel. All is OK, but now ubuntu logo is situated not in the center, but lefter. What is correct 'vga' parameter for widescreens? Thanks!
[09:48] <riaal> im in terrible need of some help! I want to change my empty "second partition" from nfts to ext3.. Im running ubuntu (ext3) on the first partition.. please? how to do this?
[09:48] <snapAMD_> ok let me see if i can find
[09:48] <eck> WantlessPower: i'm doing that right now :-)
[09:48] <WantlessPower> hee hee
[09:48] <kerik_> hey guys
[09:48] <kerik_> anybody here who know about .xsession-errors
[09:48] <Jymmmmmmm> Anyone know how to disable the desktop virtual scrolling when changing resolutions?
[09:48] <WantlessPower> i'm sooo tire
[09:48] <WantlessPower> tired*
[09:48] <riaal> It can't be that hard! someone must know?
[09:49] <eck> HorizonXP: wow, i wonder what it uses all that space for
[09:49] <WantlessPower> what time is it for you guys?
[09:49] <Seften> riaal: use gparted to delete the second partition, then use it to expland your first partition
[09:49] <kerik_> WantlessPower, 09:45 am
[09:49] <eck> 00:49
[09:49] <WantlessPower> it's 3:49 am for me here
[09:50] <projectblu> can anyone help me with a c compiler problem
[09:50] <sphynx> so what about this GRUB vga parameter?
[09:50] <projectblu> i just installed ubuntu
[09:50] <snapAMD_> ivx: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=405990&highlight=broadcom+howto
[09:50] <WantlessPower> i just wanna get wine to work
[09:50] <Jack> wantless power: i'm on the same time as you
[09:50] <Seften> projectblue: you need a compiler?
[09:50] <jpjacobs> projectblu, why do you need it?
[09:50] <WantlessPower> are you as tired as i am? lol
[09:50] <sphynx> does anybody use this parameter in his menu.lst ?
[09:50] <projectblu> i need apache
[09:51] <Jack> yes, i'm dead tired
[09:51] <jpjacobs> projectblu, it's in the repo's
[09:51] <projectblu> cant find it on add/remove
[09:51] <kerik_> WantlessPower, bet you I'm not :)
[09:51] <HorizonXP> eck: i installed some program tho, that could've taken up a few gigs... still a lot, considering i still have to install office... u know, for those times that u REALLY need it...
[09:51] <eck> projectblu: if you search for it with apt-cache or aptitude you'll see it
[09:51] <WantlessPower> lol
[09:51] <riaal> is it safe to boot the live cd and enter the rescue mode to be able to use the partition manager? whitout damaging the install?
[09:51] <jpjacobs> projectblu, use synaptic, it's much more powerfull (or aptitude if you like it console-based)
[09:51] <WantlessPower> it's morning for you
[09:52] <kerik_> WantlessPower, right you are
[09:52] <ivx> snapAMD_ yeah that is a shell script that does it for you, the thing is from what i have read and experienced there are problems with that firmware and certian kernel version
[09:52] <Jack> hey, it's morning for us too.  just really early morning
[09:52] <Seften> riaal, it shouldn't hurt your partition if you do it in gparted on the desktop
[09:52] <WantlessPower> it's been like a week or two since the last time i've been up at 9:45
[09:52] <projectblu> thanks
[09:52] <projectblu> found it
[09:52] <riaal> Seften, It dosn't show for some reason
[09:52] <projectblu> i just switched from foresight to ubuntu
[09:52] <ivx> snapAMD_ either that or you are using the wrong drivers and firmware, i am actually have very good results with my broadcom 4318
[09:53] <snapAMD_> ivx: would ndisswrapper wrk better?
[09:53] <Seften> riaal, try gparted in terminal
[09:53] <ivx> snapAMD_ it wouldn't hurt to try, just make sure you really have a broadcom 43xx
[09:53] <WantlessPower> someone tell chroot to install faster
[09:53] <Seften> if it isn't installed it will tell you
[09:53] <Renu23> i can not open firerfox
[09:53] <eck> WantlessPower: it is just the tasksel/apt-get that is slow right?
[09:53] <snapAMD_> ivx machine is a presario v3000 laptop
[09:53] <ivx> snapAMD_ you want some instructions for NDIS
[09:54] <kerik_> ppl here who know about .xsession-errors?
[09:54] <ivx> snapAMD_ yeah i have no idea what is in your notebook
[09:54] <WantlessPower> just all the configuring
[09:54] <WantlessPower> wait it finished
[09:54] <WantlessPower> sweet
[09:54] <riaal> Seften, its aplication start, but my disk shows up as one empty drive.. :S Im running ubuntu from half of it
[09:54] <Renu23> i can not open firefox it sais that i have allredy opened
[09:54] <Renu23> but is not
[09:54] <eck> Renu23: look for it with ps and kill it
[09:54] <HorizonXP> eck" thanks for your help!!!
[09:54] <Renu23> ?
[09:54] <Renu23> how?
[09:54] <eck> HorizonXP: no problem
[09:55] <Seften> riaal, can you make a screenshot
[09:55] <eck> Renu23: ps -ef | grep firefox
[09:55] <riaal> Renu23, ps -aux |grep firefox and then kill Pid
[09:55] <riaal> 2 late ;)
[09:55] <snapAMD_> ivx my lspci tells me it is a dell 1390 wireless
[09:55] <riaal> Seften, sure, sec
[09:56] <ivx> snapAMD_ google dell 1390 wireless ubuntu, but first try system>admin>restricted driver
[09:56] <snapAMD_> ivx: 01:00.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation Dell Wireless 1390 WLAN Mini-PCI Card (rev 01)
[09:56] <eltese> anyone good with dual screens on DVI and how to make the picture go from one monitor to the other pre-install? :)