[20:46] <saige> lol, yeah, that will do it.
[20:47] <saige> Is it still blocking scp?
[20:50] <freqnasty> saige: no :)
[20:51] <luk3yx> Hello everyone. I was wondering what precautions I should take before mounting a USB with possibly malicious software.
[20:54] <koffeinfriedhof> luk3yx: why do you want to mount such a stick? Perhaps use an old unneeded pc with no network connection and no automount/autostart enabled?
[20:54] <Glammobile> Does GIMP become quite easy to use for simple tasks once you've gotten used to it, or are there fairly objectively better programs for throwing together cruftwork simple pics? If so, what would be a better program for simple tasks?
[20:55] <luk3yx> koffeinfriedhof: It possibly contains malware, maybe not even Linux malware. The idea is to check the contents. Read-only initramfs?
[20:55] <coolpuppy9> 100% after you get used to GIMP menu structure it gets easier to use
[20:56] <koffeinfriedhof> I would prefer using an Live-Stick on that unneeded pc, yes. And do not install wine :)
[20:56] <luk3yx> No wine.
[20:56] <coolpuppy9> i end up using GIMP a lot simply because it's commonly included on a lot of distros and it's not worth going and installing something with a more simple interface
[20:57] <Glammobile> I think the layering trips me up the most.
[20:57] <luk3yx> koffeinfriedhof: Thank you for your advice. It most likely is innocent or contains Windows malware. Would a guest session help?
[20:58] <Glammobile> It seems like it'd be thoroughly necessary for some tasks, and incredibly needlessly complex for simple things.
[20:58] <koffeinfriedhof> luk3yx: If you do not know what its on your stick I would not recommend using it with your current system. Just to be sure.
[20:58] <luk3yx> Okay.
[20:59] <luk3yx> It seems so strange that innocently mounting and browsing the contents could compromise my system. (If Windows was my system, it wouldn't be.)
[21:00] <koffeinfriedhof> it would probably not...but I'm a bit paranoid due to "bad usb"-things.
[21:01] <Hilikus> h
[21:01] <luk3yx> Okay.
[21:02] <coolpuppy9> @Glammobile you are exactly right about that with GIMP, but it is handy more often than not for me
[21:02] <Glammobile> And that's fairly easy to work around once you're used to it?
[21:03] <coolpuppy9> Yeah i don't really think about what I'm doing most of the time. It's just muscle memory
[21:04] <Glammobile> I guess my only concern about that is that I rarely have reason to make a pic.
[21:05] <Glammobile> Last time, I was in a game of Stars! and needed to cludge together a sitrep. Took forever.
[21:05] <Glammobile> That it was ugly didn't matter since it was serviceable, but the lack of familiarity and practice was frustrating.
[21:06] <coolpuppy9> The default photo editor in Ubuntu 12+ (i think) can do most basic stuff
[21:06] <luk3yx> Again, thank you for all your help and advice. I will be sure to proceed with caution.
[21:06] <Glammobile> Ohei that might work.
[21:06] <Glammobile> What's it called?
[21:09] <Guest97160> anyone here familiar with KVM virtualizing?
[21:09] <coolpuppy9> i honestly don't remember what the application is called, maybe someone else in here will
[21:10] <pavlos> you mean, virt
[21:10] <Guest97160> yes
[21:10] <Guest97160> I'm trying to get some quick help
[21:10] <coolpuppy9> whats's ur question
[21:11] <Guest97160> I've got a Windows Guest running on my Ubuntu server. I can access the internet and everything through the guest, but I'm not able to host a server. I'm attempting to host a game server, but it never states that it's listening on that port
[21:11] <Guest97160> so, I'm unable to connect
[21:11] <ikonia> if it's not listening - you will never connect
[21:12] <chefkoch77> hi all
[21:12] <Guest97160> I know that, I'm wondering why it's not listening.
[21:12] <coolpuppy9> straight kvm or are you using a gui/other interface like cloudmin
[21:12] <Guest97160> It's like it's not passing through or something
[21:12] <pavlos> Guest97160, is the a firewall blocking?
[21:12] <ikonia> Guest97160: probably not starting....
[21:12] <Guest97160> No GUI
[21:12] <ikonia> passing through ?
[21:13] <Guest97160> Firewall doesn't seem to be blocking it
[21:13] <Guest97160> On the server itself I'm running a server which works perfectly, it's just the VM that's having issues
[21:13] <coolpuppy9> are you getting a ip address on your network or a internal private NAT
[21:13] <ikonia> Guest97160: try to explain again
[21:13] <ikonia> you're mixing the situation a little in your description
[21:13] <ikonia> is the games server running on the physical host or the vm
[21:13] <Guest97160> Okay let me start over haha
[21:14] <coolpuppy9> e.g. are you bridging?
[21:14] <pavlos> Guest97160, can you use netstat to find ports LISTEN
[21:14] <Guest97160> I have a dedicated server with ubuntu installed. I have created a Windows Server VM. I used the default networking used by libvirt, and I'm able to connect to the internet on it. However, I'm not able to host a server because it's not being "pushed" out publicly
[21:15] <Guest97160> I've used netstat to find the listening ports, and it's not on there is the problem.
[21:15] <ikonia> Guest97160: are you hosting the game server on th vm or the host
[21:15] <ikonia> lets just be clear
[21:15] <Guest97160> on the VM
[21:15] <ikonia> Guest97160: and the vm is running windows, right ?
[21:15] <Guest97160> yes
[21:15] <ikonia> Guest97160: is the games server starting
[21:15] <Guest97160> yes
[21:16] <ikonia> Guest97160: what interface is it listening on
[21:16] <ikonia> or how do you configure the listening address
[21:16] <compdoc> Guest97160, you can connect the guest directly to the lan, and not go thru the virtual net they create for you
[21:16] <Guest97160> well it's listening on <IP_ADDRESS>:27016
[21:16] <ikonia> Guest97160: ok - so that means it will be listening on the VM guest IP - can you connect to that port on the VM guest IP
[21:16] <Guest97160> compdoc: is that a better option. I attempted to use a bridge but it didn't work for some reason
[21:16] <compdoc> Guest97160, do you have more than one nic?
[21:17] <Guest97160> ikonia: well the guest vm ip is not a public ip, it's part of a subnet created by libvirt
[21:17] <ikonia> Guest97160: I know this
[21:17] <ikonia> Guest97160: thats why I'm asking the question
[21:17] <Guest97160> compdoc: just one nic
[21:17] <Guest97160> ah okay
[21:17] <Guest97160> it's in a data center
[21:21] <Guest97160> How would bridged networking work?
[21:21] <ikonia> it wouldn't
[21:21] <mordeo> What's a common reason for a hw addr not showing up in the arp cache?  Both devices are on the same network and have the same subnet (<IP_ADDRESS>)
[21:21] <ikonia> Guest97160: can you connect to that port on the internal network
[21:21] <ikonia> thats teh first question you need to answer to confirm the status
[21:21] <pavlos> Guest97160, this page has a lot of info ...https://wiki.libvirt.org/page/Networking
[21:21] <Guest97160> what do you mean?
[21:21] <ikonia> Guest97160: can you connect to the game server port on the internal VM network ip
[21:22] <Guest97160> I have no way of testing that
[21:22] <ikonia> yes you do
[21:22] <Guest97160> how?
[21:22] <ikonia> telnet to the port from the ubuntu host to the ip / port of the guest
[21:22] <Guest97160> can you show me an example of how to do that?
[21:22] <Glammobile> Thanks, folks!
[21:23] <ikonia> telnet ip port
[21:23] <ikonia> or
[21:23] <ikonia> nc ip port
[21:23] <pavlos> Guest97160, telnet <IP_ADDRESS>:45000
[21:23] <ikonia> no
[21:23] <ikonia> it's not :
[21:23] <ikonia> it's just a space
[21:23] <pavlos> sorry
[21:24] <Guest97160> stuck trying
[21:24] <Guest97160> but I can ping it
[21:24] <ikonia> Guest97160: ok - so it's not listening on that port/interface
[21:24] <ikonia> Guest97160: so thats what you've got to fix first
[21:24] <Guest97160> jk I can't ping it
[21:24] <ikonia> I suspect the game server is not even starting up properly
[21:25] <Guest97160> I believe it is because I tested it on my regular desktop and it started the exact same way and was working
[21:25] <Guest97160> I just think my networking is not right
[21:25] <ikonia> Guest97160: it's not though
[21:25] <ikonia> Guest97160: as you can't connect to the port
[21:25] <ikonia> if it was listening on that IP/port, you'd be able to connect with telnet
[21:25] <ikonia> as you can't either a.) something is blocking it b.) it's not starting on that interface
[21:26] <Guest97160> the host computer isn't a part of that network
[21:26] <Guest97160> so that's why i can't telnet into that
[21:26] <bekks> 5Then you will not be able to connet at all.
[21:26] <Guest97160> it's a virtual network created by libvirt with a virtual interface
[21:26] <ikonia> Guest97160: how are you connecting to it to manage it then
[21:26] <pavlos> Guest97160, can you give ubuntu ip and vm ip?
[21:26] <ikonia> right, but the host must be on that network
[21:27] <ikonia> or you wouldn't be able to connect to the internet from it, and you wouldn't be able to connect to the vm to manage it
[21:27] <ikonia> so it must be part of that network
[21:27] <Guest97160> it's passing through the virtual "router"
[21:27] <Guest97160> cause I can ping: virbr0
[21:27] <ikonia> Guest97160: right, and the virtual router is an interface on your host
[21:27] <Guest97160> which is the default gateway and dhcp server for my VM
[21:27] <ikonia> so the host must be able to access it
[21:28] <Guest97160> okay
[21:29] <Guest97160> it's all so confusing lol
[21:30] <Guest97160> actually the virtual network interface already forwards all ports for me
[21:30] <ikonia> ...clearly not
[21:30] <Guest97160> from 1024 to 65535
[21:30] <ikonia> as you can't connect to the game port
[21:30] <ikonia> or it's not running
[21:30] <bekks> Guest97160: that would mean 64000 forwarding, are you sure ;)
[21:30] <Guest97160> is there a way to test another program?
[21:30] <bekks> *forwardings.
[21:30] <Guest97160> lol
[21:30] <bekks> Guest97160: Run the telnet test from within your VM.
[21:30] <ikonia> you're not interested in another program
[21:30] <ikonia> you're interested in the game server
[21:30] <ikonia> fix that
[21:31] <ikonia> as you should be able to connec to that from your ubuntu host
[21:31] <ikonia> no forwarding or anything
[21:31] <ikonia> fix that first
[21:31] <ikonia> hell, can you connect to it from the windows VM
[21:31] <ikonia> then there is no networking in play
[21:31] <Guest97160> telnet isn't available on windows apparently
[21:31] <ikonia> yes it is
[21:31] <ikonia> it's not just enabled by default
[21:32] <Guest97160> there I enabled it
[21:34] <OneFreakLP> hello
[21:34] <Guest97160> should I just use bridged networking?
[21:34] <ikonia> Guest97160: I'm going to stop helping you
[21:34] <bekks> Guest97160: you should run your telnet test from withing your vm.
[21:34] <ikonia> Guest97160: you appear to ignore what's being told to you and just continuing on
[21:34] <bekks> Guest97160: And then, in case you cannot connect, you should fix your gameserver, since it isnt starting.
[21:34] <Guest97160> ikonia: I'm installing telnet
[21:36] <Guest97160> I'm very appreciative of your help, but I've been researching this since like 4am last night.
[21:36] <ikonia> then you should be paying attention and doing what you're told, not running ahead
[21:36] <ikonia> I'm out
[21:36] <Guest97160> lol okay?
[21:36] <Guest97160> sorry for being such a horrible person to you
[21:36] <jamesrleimer> hello
[21:37] <compdoc> Guest97160, you have to manually create a bridge that also has an ip address for the host to use. takes some testing to get it right
[21:37] <compdoc> I prefer two or more nics
[21:38] <Guest97160> okay
[21:38] <Guest97160> thanks compdoc
[21:39] <schnel> 8[21:39] <schnel> noooo
[21:39] <schnel> ikonia why? :'(
[21:40] <ikonia> schnel: because your offensive ascii art is not allowed or welcome
[21:40] <schnel> oh sorry :x
[21:41] <Guest97160> schnel ikonia is in a bad mood
[21:41] <schnel> How to create a channel?
[21:41] <ikonia> schnel: I suggest you join #freenode if you need help using IRC
[21:41] <OerHeks> just channel policy, Guest97160
[21:41] <ikonia> Guest97160: no, I'm not in a bad mood,
[21:42] <Guest97160> yeah, but I still ruined ikonia's day
[21:42] <xar-> schnel: /join #channel-name; et voila, you have a channel
[21:42] <h9k__> why is that offensive
[21:43] <\9> because the op says it's offensive
[21:43] <h9k> fair enough
[21:44] <\9> it's quite rude for this channel anyway
[21:44] <h9k> just realized it's a penis :D
[21:44] <schnel> thank you xar :)
[21:44] <xar-> I'm faily certain I got kicked yesterday cuz I laughed at a joke told by **someone else**
[21:44] <h9k> i prefer cowsy
[21:44] <h9k> cowsay*
[21:44] <xar-> I blame the christmas spirit ;)
[21:45] <h9k> yeah, SJW are everywhere
[21:45] <Guest97160> ikonia, does telnet use tcp or udp? cause my server is udp
[21:45] <xar-> yw schnel, do a /msg chanserv help, if you actually want to register the channel, administer it, etc.
[21:45] <h9k> telnet is TCP
[21:46] <xar-> (of course, it needs to be a non-already-registered-channel that doesn't "belong" to anyone)
[21:46] <schnel> oh
[21:46] <xar-> so how about them ubuntus (tries to get back on topic)
[21:46] <bekks> Guest97160: PAstebin "netstat -aon" from within your guest.
[21:48] <\9> h9k: i thought you were debating whether posting an ascii penis on a support channel is offensive. so i'd guess it was just a misunderstanding
[21:48] <Guest97160> bekks: http://pastebin.com/gQsSBAjg
[21:49] <xar-> meh we're all adults here, I chuckled, shrug
[21:49] <bekks> Guest97160: As can be clearly seen, your gameserver isnt running on port 45000. So fix it.
[21:49] <Guest97160> Okay
[21:49] <xar-> pro tip, `ss` is the better `netstat`
[21:49] <Guest97160> Can we ignore the fact that the gameserver isn't up for a moment?
[21:49] <bekks> Guest97160: No.
[21:50] <Guest97160> I have IIS server running now on Port 80
[21:50] <Guest97160> I'm unable to connect to that as well
[21:50] <bekks> Did you try to telnet from your host...?
[21:51] <Guest97160> my server was off also
[21:51] <Guest97160> which I didn't notice
[21:52] <ikonia> this is turning into a pack of lies
[21:52] <Guest97160> pastebin.com/DeyVSST8
[21:52] <ikonia> info is being provided
[21:52] <ikonia> yet the serer was "off"
[21:52] <Guest97160> bekks: you can see there that it is listening on 27016
[21:53] <bekks> Guest97160: In your pastebin nothing is listening on port 27016
[21:53] <Guest97160> pastebin.com/DeyVSST8
[21:53] <Guest97160> http://pastebin.com/DeyVSST8
[21:53] <Guest97160> sorry
[21:53] <Guest97160> The server wasn't on in the first one. That's my mistake
[21:53] <bekks> So run that telnet test again...
[21:54] <schnel> tkkk
[21:54] <Tywars> yo
[21:54] <Tywars> yo
[21:54] <Tywars> yo
[21:54] <Guest97160> bekks: I'm wondering if that won't work because it's a UDP port rather than TCP
[21:54] <Tywars> 8[21:55] <Tywars> test
[21:55] <schnel> :O
[21:55] <mordeo> tywars, test back
[21:55] <Tywars> test
[21:55] <schnel> offensive
[21:55] <Tywars> :D
[21:55] <Ben64> ikonia: still here?
[21:55] <pavlos> Tywars, please use #test for testing
[21:55] <ikonia> Ben64: ooh yes
[21:55] <schnel> #test
[21:55] <bekks> Guest97160: Use: nc -u ipaddress portnumber
[21:55] <Tywars> #test
[21:55] <ikonia> srr it
[21:55] <Tywars> :p
[21:55] <schnel> #test
[21:55] <schnel> #test
[21:55] <schnel> #test
[21:55] <ikonia> sorry about that
[21:56] <pavlos> Tywars, please use #test for testing (/join #test)
[21:56] <Guest97160> bekks: on the host machine?
[21:56] <bekks> Guest97160: Sure.
[21:57] <Guest97160> bekks: it's just hanging
[21:57] <Guest97160> on the host machine I'm using the virbr0 ipaddress
[21:57] <LordSesshomaru> hey all, I'm attempting to connect a Damn Small client via SSH to my Ubuntu server and its telling me there are no matching ciphers, is there a way to enable some of the older ciphers (which is what DSL uses, I assume) on the ubuntu machine? Or am I simply screwed?
[21:58] <Guest97160> since it's a vlan
[21:58] <bekks> Guest97160: Run it again, using a port number which is definitily not in use.
[21:58] <Guest97160> bekks: same result
[21:59] <ikonia> LordSesshomaru: change the sshd_config
[21:59] <ikonia> LordSesshomaru: you can set the ciphers in use
[22:00] <bekks> Guest97160: and virbr0 provides NAT? You arent using bridged networking, correct?
[22:01] <mordeo> Does device "A" need to know the hw addr of device "B" in order to ping it?
[22:01] <ikonia> mordeo: no
[22:01] <ikonia> the router will deal with any mac translation
[22:01] <Guest97160> bekks: yes here's what's in the config file: <forward mode='nat'>       <nat>         <port start='1024' end='65535'/>       </nat>     </forward>
[22:01] <ikonia> it uses IP
[22:01] <mordeo> Okay, thanks
[22:02] <mordeo> So when I ping the device, I get "Destination host unreachable"
[22:02] <schnel> guys
[22:02] <schnel> how to download Blih ?
[22:02] <mordeo> I was going down a rabbit hole of different answers - starting back at the top now
[22:03] <ikonia> mordeo: just a basic networking failure
[22:03] <ikonia> mordeo: what is the exact ping command you are using
[22:03] <pavlos> mordeo, are A and B in same subnet?
[22:04] <mordeo> "ping filepi" is one example.  "ping <IP_ADDRESS>" is the other example.
[22:04] <mordeo> pavlos, yes.  <IP_ADDRESS>
[22:04] <ikonia> mordeo: what is the IP of your host
[22:04] <mordeo> The issue sporadically fixes itself... why makes it more frustrating
[22:04] <mordeo> <IP_ADDRESS>
[22:04] <ikonia> so if it fixes itself
[22:04] <ikonia> that suggests a bad cable/router
[22:04] <ikonia> as the config is black and white
[22:04] <dajomu> anyone here using digikam?
[22:05] <bekks> \9: dajomu Why?
[22:05] <ikonia> dajomu: just ask the quetion
[22:05] <OerHeks> blih - The sound a Maori warrior makes when poking his tongue out to scare the enemy.
[22:05] <dajomu> ahh. ok
[22:05] <bekks> hmm, where did that "9" came from...?
[22:05] <\9> bekks: ?
[22:05] <Guest97160> bekks: I just looked it up and I think I found it
[22:06] <schnel> OerHeks : i'm pretty sure that's not it :p
[22:06] <Guest97160> by default the virtual network blocks all incoming connections unless specified in iptables
[22:06] <bekks> \9: Sorry, it was a tab fail :)
[22:06] <Guest97160> so I think I'd need to make an iptables rule
[22:06] <mordeo> thanks ikonia and pavlos
[22:07] <Guest97160> So I really need to just setup bridged networking for it to work better
[22:07] <pavlos> mordeo, are they pinging now?
[22:07] <dajomu> After digikam has scanned photos, should it not create an Mysql database on a location specified in the database settings?
[22:07] <ikonia> 21:13 < Guest97160> Firewall doesn't seem to be blocking it
[22:08] <mordeo> pavlos yes.  Additionally, the hw addr of device "B" is blank in my arp cache when this doesn't work
[22:08] <Guest97160> thanks for your help bekks!
[22:08] <Guest97160> and Ikonia. sorry for being rude
[22:08] <ikonia> mordeo: forget the hardware address
[22:08] <ikonia> mordeo: you seem to be focusing on something that really doesn't matter
[22:09] <mordeo> ikonia, I don't have total access to my router, so I'm trying to rule out what I can actually control
[22:09] <bekks> Guest97160: So assumption "a)" was correct. Something was/is blocking traffic.
[22:09] <mordeo> I admit you're probably right and I should just put a second router behind it
[22:10] <schnel> who uses Bluemix here?
[22:10] <ikonia> second router ??
[22:10] <ikonia> mordeo: why are you looking at second routers
[22:11] <kode54> I have a second router, but it's in a DMZ "plus" behind ISP equipment that I prefer not to act as my primary router
[22:13] <mordeo> If the router ATT gave me is faulty, I'll put a second router behind it that I can actually control.  No?
[22:13] <mordeo> Not having any problems accessing the internet, it's just local network stuff
[22:13] <mordeo> Getting rid of the ATT uVerse modem/router is not an option
[22:13] <kode54> mordeo: ATT? same here
[22:13] <kode54> you can "DMZPlus" or similar to that feature
[22:13] <Ben64> if it's faulty, get them to give you a new one
[22:13] <kode54> Ben64: faulty/limited by design
[22:14] <Ben64> like can't ping devices on the network? no that is not normal
[22:14] <ikonia> mordeo: no
[22:14] <kode54> no
[22:14] <ikonia> mordeo: if the router you have is faulty, putting a second router behind will forward the fault from the first to the second
[22:14] <kode54> faulty for other reasons, but not being able to ping devices is not a fault
[22:14] <Ben64> yes it is
[22:15] <kode54> er
[22:15] <kode54> I mean
[22:15] <ikonia> it is if it's going up / down
[22:15] <kode54> I don't mean it's a permanent fault
[22:15] <ikonia> yes it is
[22:15] <ikonia> if his hosts are going up down with no changes
[22:15] <kode54> oh
[22:15] <mordeo> no changes that I'm aware of*
[22:15] <kode54> it's going up and down repeatedly? then it's a faulty device
[22:15] <kode54> sticking a router behind it won't help with that, but it may help keep his network sound internally, if they don't have to pull an IP from the ATT device
[22:15] <Ben64> but it's also not necessarily the router, could be the cable, could be the device(s) themselves
[22:15] <mordeo> Would changing the network topography be a cause?  As in, turning on/off an unmanaged switch?
[22:16] <ikonia> as I said
[22:16] <ikonia> faulty cable
[22:16] <kode54> or if you're turning off/on a switch with devices attached to it
[22:16] <ikonia> there seems to be an alarming lack of desire to actually troubleshoot with people on this channel tonight
[22:16] <Ben64> i'd run an endless ping and watch for changes as i mess with stuff
[22:16] <mordeo> devices attached, but not relevant ones
[22:16] <ikonia> and just race ahead to something random
[22:17] <kode54> I shouldn't be contributing to this conversation, I have nothing useful to say
[22:17] <mordeo> re-wiring the house doesn't seem reasonable at this point
[22:17] <Ben64> the ethernet goes in the wall?
[22:17] <mordeo> and through the attic
[22:18] <ikonia> just run a long cable
[22:18] <ikonia> to test
[22:18] <Ben64> move the thing next to the router and use a fresh cable
[22:18] <Ben64> or that, same thing basically
[22:18] <ikonia> or even better, move the machine out of the attic to test another cable
[22:18] <mordeo> that makes sense
[22:18] <ikonia> apply logic before buying a new router
[22:18] <Ben64> yay problem solving
[22:19] <mordeo> well I've got a spare router already, so not cost.  But I'll move some things around first
[22:19]  * ikonia shakes head
[22:19] <ikonia> "hi guys, I need help with this problem" - 'sure do this' - "I'll ignore the info and just do other random things"
[22:19] <Ben64> my check engine light is on....  *puts duct tape over the light*     ...there, fixed!
[22:19] <ikonia> what is the point of even asking
[22:20] <Geo> anyone know where a user's imap mailbox is stored on the filesystem? I upgraded HDs, and have the old HD mounted- but since its the same computer, i can't use a traditional sych tool (that I know of) because the same host is pointed at the new, empty filesystem
[22:20] <ikonia> Geo: depends on the imap server
[22:20] <Geo> postfix/dovecot
[22:20] <ikonia> Geo: rsync
[22:20] <ikonia> Geo: or 'cp"
[22:20] <ikonia> 'cp'
[22:20] <Geo> where, not how :)
[22:20] <ikonia> Geo: look in the config - thats where it's defined
[22:20] <ikonia> read the config
[22:22] <Geo> there's nothing obvious in there I've seen... can you be any more specific?
[22:22] <ikonia> Geo: pretty sure there will be something in there
[22:22] <ikonia> Geo: the config file must specify where the imap directories are stored
[22:22] <ikonia> or it won't know where to read them from
[22:23] <Geo> I have no doubt it does
[22:23] <Geo> just not obviously
[22:23] <Geo> hence my question
[22:23] <Ben64> http://wiki.dovecot.org/MailLocation
[22:24] <mordeo> ikonia, ben64 it can't be a cable issue if I'm also unable to ping from 1 wireless device to another, right?
[22:24] <mordeo> so it would have to be the router
[22:25] <Ben64> not necessarily
[22:25] <mordeo> just remember I ran that test yesterday...
[22:25] <Geo> thanks- and of course, "mail_location setting in dovecot.conf is used if nothing else overrides it. " ... I have no mail_location setting
[22:25] <Geo> thanks Ben64
[22:26] <Geo> grepd, looks like it got moved to 10-mail.conf
[22:27] <Geo> and looking at that file, it's filesize is 0 on the old filesystem
[22:27] <Geo> hrm
[22:27] <Ben64> have you checked /var/mail
[22:28] <Geo> thats what it was set to
[22:28] <Geo> and my user file is 0 bytes
[22:28] <Geo> but it looks like it is all hanging out in ~/Maildir
[22:31] <aleksandar_> yoyooyoy
[22:32] <SyntaxErr0r> Hi
[22:33] <Geo> Hrm... even my new test mails coming in aren't appearing
[22:34] <Geo> here we go
[22:34] <Geo> Error: file_dotlock_create(/var/mail/geo) failed: Permission denied (euid=1000(geo) egid=1000(geo) missing +w perm: /var/mail, we're not in group 8(mail), dir owned by 0:8 mode=0775) (set mail_privileged_group=mail)
[22:35] <rfp> alguem do  brasil
[22:35] <Ben64> !br | rfp
[22:36] <Ben64> Geo: you running dovecot as your user?
[22:36] <Geo> nm, thats old
[22:36] <Geo> root, I would assume
[22:36] <Ben64> your error indicates otherwise
[22:37] <Geo> no, it indicates that file wasn't there earlier, it's since been fixed
[22:37] <Ben64> no it doesn't indicate a missing file
[22:37] <Geo> well, whatever magic that was, it has been fixed
[22:38] <Ben64> you might want to consider not running your own mail server
[22:38] <Geo> I've been doing this for going on a decade now, but thank you for your support.
[22:38] <Ben64> that's even more worrying
[22:39] <tony_> make sure you don't have confidential political emails on there
[22:43] <JamesP> in font heck with Ubuntu 16.04 - Is there a fix to install 3rd party fonts yet?
[22:44] <JamesP> Cause it's been over 6 months....and I see that I'm not the only confused by this.
[22:44] <Ben64> you can always install fonts
[22:44] <schnitz> I would like to randomly rename files in a directory, changing / overwriting the existing names before the suffix into a ramdom number
[22:45] <Ben64> schnitz: for what purpose
[22:45] <\9> JamesP: dump the fonts in ~/.fonts/ and run fc-cache
[22:46] <JamesP> I guess I'm too much of a newb to figure it out.  Tried the Font Manager... which reports its done the job, but it really hasn't
[22:46] <schnitz> Ben64: I have a HD full of my own produced music. Under UbuntuStudio I found out, there is Batch Manipulation with Audacity. I programmed a NOISE / METAL filter array, now I want to open a new SC account, and I don't want the old filenames to show up, and audacity does not allow me to specify new file names, it uses the old ones and puts the files into another directory
[22:46] <JamesP> will try that.  Thanks
[22:48] <schnitz> Ben64: So I need a way to say "rename all files within this directory into some random string or increasing numbers"
[22:50] <ghostmag> Hello fellows, I am using Ubuntu 16.06 with a Dualboot Windows 7. Both installed over UEFI. I tried to used WakeOnLan for the frist time and it did work - but Ubuntu wasn't able to use the LAN connection while WoL is activated in the UEFI
[22:51] <ghostmag> Ubuntu was only able to use the normal LAN connection to get into the internet under these circumstances:
[22:51] <pavlos> schnitz, some help ... http://stackoverflow.com/questions/7450818/rename-all-files-in-directory-from-filename-h-to-filename-half
[22:51] <ghostmag> 1. I booted Windows first and the next time I booted Ubuntu
[22:52] <\9> for increasing numbers you could run python3 and type in «import os; for i, fn in enumerate(os.listdir('.')): os.rename(fn, str(i))«
[22:52] <tgm4883> ghostmag: 16.04*
[22:52] <ghostmag> 2. I restarted the working Ubuntu. It just stopped working if I shut the system down and boot again
[22:52] <ghostmag> tgm4883: You are right, sorry
[22:53] <schnitz> Ben64: Awesome! Thx sooo much! Have a great day :-)
[22:54] <arm1e> Hi, I have been testing snap package manager on otgher distros but get errors. Can anyone help
[22:55] <Bashing-om> arm1e:  Try asking in #snappy .
[22:57] <arm1e> ta
[23:02] <lapion> Does 16.04 prefer ipv4 over ipv6 so much that it refuses to use a profile in which ipv4 is the preferred protocol ?
[23:03] <lapion> in stead it will much rather create a new profile with only ipv6 in stead of using a profile where the user manually set ipv4 as required
[23:04] <CrazyH> I just upgraded to Ubuntu 16.04 64 bit. I'm using Gnome flashback session. I went to System tools --> System Setting --> Appearance --> Behavior --> Enable Workspaces == True. However, when I go to Workspace switcher and add more worksapces it doesn't work. It forgets the number that I set [ the number is 8 ] and never creates any extra workspaces :-( How can I fix this?
[23:13] <sruli> i have a amd readeon rx460, system does not recognise it and only works with amd proprietary drivers, how can i get it to work with the open source drivers? the only reason i went for amd is the opensource
[23:15] <ikonia> sruli: do the open source drivers support it ?
[23:16] <sruli> ikonia: hiw can i check that?
[23:16] <ikonia> err you should have checked this
[23:16] <ikonia> you went for AMD beause it's open source....and you've not even checked if the card is supported by the open source driver
[23:17] <sruli> ikonia: my mistake, just throught amd provides opensource for all new cards ... is there a way i can check if my card is supported?
[23:18] <ikonia> pull up the open source driver docs and look at the listed cards
[23:18] <Bashing-om> sruli: amdgpu-pri : per : http://theleftcoastgeek.net/index.php/general-interest/11-amd-gpu-support-with-amdgpu-and-amdgpu-pro .
[23:20] <sruli> Bashing-om: thats what i installed to get it to work... i thought its supported from the kernel and no need to install ~150mb drivers to get it to work..
[23:21] <OerHeks> standard amdgpu supports it, in 16.10 ~ maybe not 60 hz in 4k
[23:22] <Bashing-om> sruli: Lots I do not know about the AMD drivers, but I would expect the amdgpu driver to work right out of the box - as default in the kernel .
[23:24] <sruli> Bashing-om: it doesnt, how can i trouble shoot it?
[23:24] <sruli> where do i start?
[23:24] <schnitz> Ben64: sorry to bother you again, checked all that, yes, understand, however, there is no notion of randomness there yet
[23:24] <ikonia> sruli: "it doesn't" doesn't really help explain the problem
[23:24] <user01> hi so for you client devices are you supposed to key one private ssh key per device/user combination or copy the same private key on all devices that you use as a client?
[23:24] <OerHeks> on what linux version, sruli ?
[23:25] <schnitz> E.g. for file in *.png; do mv "$file"<EMAIL_ADDRESS>done ... fine, but is there some command to generate a random number in bash? Instead of a fixed string?
[23:25] <ikonia> user01: not sure what youre asking here
[23:25] <jkoudys> xenial; I used a special repo for mysql, and now every time I try to do an `apt install`, it fails saying "Setting up mysql-server-5.7" then complains I'm in a chroot, then policy-rc.d denies execution. http://pastie.org/10983883
[23:26] <jkoudys> I'm running on a chromebook that has ubuntu installed under a chroot using crouton
[23:26] <ikonia> jkoudys: sounds like you're used a broken ppa
[23:26] <ikonia> jkoudys: and there isn't ubuntu on the chromebook
[23:26] <jkoudys> the thing is, mysql install upgrade works just fine; updates all my stuff
[23:26] <jkoudys> Yeah there is
[23:26] <ikonia> it's not an official ubuntu build
[23:26] <ikonia> jkoudys: is there ? from where ?
[23:26] <user01> ikonia, so if i generate a key on my laptop user01, should i copy the private key to my desktop user01, my phone user01 etc . .. or should i generate a different ssh key for each device
[23:26] <sruli> i upgraded to 16.04 to get it to work (froze in middle bricked, reinstalled) i have 3 screens, before installing the package i get 1080p res 2 screens mirrored, cannot change res, after installing the package from amd's site i have 3 independent screens as i want
[23:27] <Bashing-om> sruli: Most depnds on what release you are running .. and if 'fglrx' os a factot . Whar returns ' dpkg -l | grep fglrx ' ?
[23:27] <ikonia> user01: thats up to you
[23:27] <ikonia> user01: you manage the keys how you feel best
[23:27] <jkoudys> It's installed on a chroot
[23:27] <ikonia> some people use a master key, some people use per install
[23:27] <ikonia> jkoudys: no - then it's not an offiical install
[23:27] <ikonia> it's a hack
[23:27] <ikonia> that hack is not supported here
[23:27] <user01> ikonia, wouldnt it be safer though to do separate, in case one device is compromised?
[23:27] <ikonia> it's normally done with a dodgy shell script process jkoudys, the guy who maintains that shell script can help
[23:28] <ikonia> user01: depends on your perspective
[23:28] <sruli> Bashing-om: no output for that command
[23:28] <OerHeks> there is a #crouton support channel
[23:29] <user01> ikonia, if i just copy the contents of .ssh then to the other device that would do?
[23:29] <Bashing-om> sruli: No output in that case is a good thing . ' how about now ' sudo lshw -C display ' ?
[23:29] <ikonia> user01: you just need the public/private keys, thats it
[23:29] <ikonia> nothing else
[23:30] <pavlos> schnitz, echo $RANDOM
[23:30] <user01> ikonia, ok i thought ssh keys should be per user-device and pgp per user across devices
[23:30] <sruli> Bashing-om: paste.ubuntu.com/23650852
[23:30] <schnitz> pavlos oh wow great
[23:30] <ikonia> user01: it's totally up to you how you manage keys
[23:30] <ikonia> user01: many ways and pros/cons
[23:31] <pavlos> schnitz, number from 0..32767
[23:31] <jkoudys> I've seen plenty of stackoverflow questions for people with mysql update problems, but on docker builds. Sounds like the problem is more how the services restart inside a chroot
[23:31] <ikonia> jkoudys: your install is not supported here
[23:32] <Bashing-om> sruli: That says a driver " configuration: driver=amdgpu " is loaded . So what is the particular issue you are facing ?
[23:32] <sruli> Bashing-om: that i only works after installing the ~150mb package from amd site, isnt it supposed to be suppoted in the kernel?
[23:33] <schnitz> pavlos ... right but how to I get that into my rename procedure in bash?
[23:33] <ikonia> sruli: pleae stop saying "it only works"
[23:33] <schnitz> pavlos "change all filenames to a random number"
[23:33] <ikonia> explain the actual problem
[23:33] <schnitz> pavlos using rename or bash
[23:34] <sruli> ikonia: sorry i really dont know how to explain it better, question is - are the new amd cards supported in the kernel without needing to install packages from amd?
[23:34] <ikonia> sruli: the question is "what is the problem"
[23:35] <ikonia> sruli: no other question matters
[23:36] <Bashing-om> sruli: Yeah .. Mind ya, lots I do not know .. but I have seen that later cards with amdgpo-pro also need the vulcan SDK . A conflict now " what returns ' lsmod | grep amdgpu ; lsmod | grep amdgpu-pro ' ?
[23:36] <OerHeks> AMD provides a proprietary, binary userland driver called AMDGPU PRO, which works on top of the open-source AMDGPU ... so no.
[23:37] <ikonia> we still don't know the problem
[23:37] <ikonia> beyond "it doesn't work"
[23:37] <ikonia> I want to know the problem before anything else
[23:37] <sruli> Bashing-om: paste.ubuntu.com/23650863 no putput the the amdgpu-pro
[23:38] <OerHeks> oh, true, as the standard amdgpu should work basicly.
[23:40] <sruli> OerHeks: not sure i understand, my question again do i need to install the packages from amd for it to work or should it be supported out of the box?
[23:40] <ikonia> sruli: what is the problem
[23:40] <ikonia> tell us the problem
[23:41] <Chrismeister> Does anyone know any Linux-compatible racing wheel with force feedback?
[23:43] <Bashing-om> sruli: No idea of how you generated that last log .. but it seems to show there is no GPU problem . So again .. what is the particular issue here ?
[23:44] <Ben64> 23:06:55 T:18446744073501935920  NOTICE: GL_RENDERER = Mali-450 MP
[23:44] <Ben64> that isn't amd
[23:44] <sruli> Bashing-om: you can see in the paste how i generated it, i think i am asking a simple question, do i need to install the amd packages for the card to work or should it be supported without?
[23:45] <ikonia> sruli: what is the problem
[23:45] <ikonia> sruli: explain the problem - or stop asking
[23:45] <OerHeks> android with kodi ?
[23:45] <ikonia> sorry t be blunt but you are messing us around here
[23:45]  * OerHeks is baffled
[23:45] <Bashing-om> Ben64: Oh what sharp eyes you have oh wise one .
[23:47] <pavlos> schnitz, see pm
[23:47] <sruli> ikonia: i give up
[23:48] <ikonia> ok
[23:49] <sruli> on another subject, i have a few machines running ubuntu-mate and are very slow (even after fresh install, unity was even slower) i ran a memtest which passed, i also ran a bonnie++ test but dont understand the results, can anyone take a look and see if it seems ok? https://pste.eu/p/wNBv.html (all the machines are i3 or i5 min 8gb ram)
[23:49] <ikonia> sruli: that means nothing to us
[23:50] <sruli> how can i start to check why its so slow? last week i was advised here to start by making a bonnie++ test
[23:51] <ikonia> you need to understand if it's actually slow or visually slow
[23:51] <sruli> in htop i see cpu is at 0-2% all teh time yet to open caja takes about 10 seconds
[23:52] <sruli> ikonia: i dont know how to check that, but "du -sch" on a ~300gb dir took about 10 minutes, i would guess thats actually not visually
[23:52] <ikonia> how do you know
[23:52] <ikonia> it could do that in seconds and take a long time to render
[23:53] <Ben64> laptops generally are pretty slow, especially hard drive, but cpu too
[23:53] <sruli> to render the text in the command line? ok basically i am asking where do i start looking my the system is slow?
[23:54] <ra21vi> i am getting weired rendering issue in chrome. Where should i upload screenshot for sharing?
[23:55] <lapion> any one else having troubles with only getting ipv6 on boot even though profiles have been manually set to use ipv4 ?
[23:55] <ikonia> sruli: I'd be looking at your X org config
[23:55] <Ben64> lapion: explain your issue in detail
[23:55] <sruli> Ben64: the lagging i get in these machines render them useless, i refuse to Capt that ubuntu needs more powerfull hardware the closed source alternatives
[23:55] <sruli> ikonia: what should i be looking for?
[23:55] <ikonia> sruli: the config
[23:55] <ikonia> make sure it's using your video cards properly
[23:56] <Ben64> sruli: ok so figure out what is making it slow
[23:56] <lapion> I have a system on which In nm-applet I set a static ipv4. however upon booting up nm-applet/networkmanager creates a new profile without ipv4 and oly ipv6
[23:56] <pavlos> sruli, this should take about 10 seconds, time sleep 10 Can you test on one machine?
[23:56] <sruli> lol
[23:56] <ikonia> "time sleep"
[23:57] <ikonia> "time ls"
[23:57] <ikonia> you'll get stats
[23:57] <OerHeks> awesome!
[23:57] <lapion> Ben64, if I manually select the profile after booting ipv4 is active.. however only upon manually selecting the profile ipv4 is accepted
[23:58] <lapion> ben64 is that sufficient detail ?
[23:59] <ra21vi> where to paste image?
[23:59] <Ben64> lapion: probably to start. now wait to see if anyone has a suggestion


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[03:05] <timmo> Why does my mouse keep freezing :(
[03:11] <r3_> anybody know of a good GPS module for the raspberry pi?
[08:36] <diplomat> hi guys) I have extremely silly question
[08:37] <gordonjcp> diplomat: don't ask to ask :-)
[08:38] <diplomat> I was playing around with appearance preferences -> font, how I can reset them to defaults?
[08:40] <diplomat> I occasionally clicked on particular rendering methods, before it looked like all for methods were selected despite it's a single choice menu lol))
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[08:54] <diplomat> I guess not that easy question)
[08:55] <rev_> Is there anyone here who uses either the compiz regular or static application switcher and has gotten the "Set background color" and "Background color" options to actually take effect?
[08:55] <rev_> Two separate installs on two different systems and I can't seem to get that one single option to actually work.
[10:25] <jpbauddh> hi fnd
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[17:58] <kidtwisted> Hello, I have a question about "Intel Graphics Installer for Linux" - when I run it
[17:58] <kidtwisted> it complains "Distribution not supported"
[17:58] <ouroumov> kidtwisted, did you try the automatic driver install from the Welcome Splash screen?
[17:58] <ouroumov> (hi)
[17:59] <kidtwisted> no not yet
[17:59] <ouroumov> You should start with that I think
[17:59] <ouroumov> It's in Welcome -> Getting Started
[17:59] <Akuli> Ubuntu mate has a welcome screen junk?
[17:59]  * Akuli moves to devuan
[17:59] <ouroumov> bye Akuli =)
[18:00] <kidtwisted> thanks
[18:05] <tgm4883> Is there any way to tell that mate's running on a raspberry pi rather than another arm device?
[18:09] <ouroumov> tgm4883, I suppose output of the "lshw" command must be rather unique on a rpi
[18:35] <Akuli> I'm amazed, my example code passed flake8 :D
[18:35] <Akuli> oops wrong channel :)
[18:46] <hid|ninja> flake8 =
[18:46] <gordonjcp> http://gjcp.net/~gordonjcp/sun.jpg
[18:46] <gordonjcp> ^ transit of Mercury
[18:47] <gordonjcp> http://gjcp.net/~gordonjcp/science.jpg <- "hello I would like to science too please"
[21:35] <macdado> hello! i'm trying Ubuntu MATE in VMware on a Mac, thinking of installing alongside Win 10 on my wife's Lenovo pc. are there know complications, I don't know, with EFI boot or stuff like that?
[21:36] <Mordoc> I just did the same thing on a older Mac Mini with no issues. Apple doesn't make it too hard to boot from USB and then install another OS. Are you thinking to dual boot or take the full meal deal?
[21:40] <nomic> z.z.z.z
[21:45] <macdado> sorry, i confused things a little
[21:45] <macdado> i am testing it in vmware, looks and works great
[21:45] <macdado> even though sometimes it stalls, but i guess it could be due to being live in a vm
[21:46] <macdado> i'll try to actually install it in vm
[21:46] <macdado> but i want to install it on a lenovo pc with dual boot with win 10
[21:47] <SonikkuAmerica> OK
[21:48] <SonikkuAmerica> macdado: You can always give the Live session a spin
[21:50] <macdado> yeah, my doubt is just because last time i installed with dual boot was a bit messy, but it was a while ago
[21:50] <macdado> i think it was early EFI days (yes, that was a while ago)
[21:51] <nomic> you disable EUFI
[21:51] <nomic> back up your stuff before you do it
[21:51] <nomic> on windows
[21:51] <nomic> or from windows
[21:52] <macdado> thanks
[21:52] <nomic> dual boot install of windows/ubuntu was never a problem
[21:52] <nomic> you have a boot manager (grub)
[21:52] <nomic> if you run into problems, this place isn't that busy all the time -- go to forums
[21:52] <nomic> or #ubuntu
[21:52] <nomic> cos that place has 1800 people in it
[21:52] <nomic> http://ubuntuforums.org/  <- also very busy and the place for support
[21:53] <nomic> https://ubuntu-mate.community/
[21:54] <macdado> thanks
[21:54] <macdado> if i'll need i'll do it ;)
[21:55] <nomic> im not even sure - don't recall - what UEfi does to interrupt things
[21:55] <nomic> but I do remember disabling it on new laptop
[21:55] <macdado> i also remember there being something to take care
[21:56] <macdado> okay one good question for this channel: the *only* difference between MATE and Xubuntu is MATE vs Xcfe?
[21:56] <nomic> windows .. the normal course of blowing away a brand new copy of windows -- I wrote to dell once for a refund (no reply)
[21:56] <SonikkuAmerica> macdado: Yeah, that's about it.
[21:56] <SonikkuAmerica> One is MATE, the other is XFCE.
[21:56] <nomic> is mate desktop something like LXDE?
[21:56] <nomic> gnome2 something
[21:56] <SonikkuAmerica> MATE's a fork of GNOME 2.
[21:56] <SonikkuAmerica> And we renamed the apps.
[21:58] <macdado> ok, cause at work i installed xubuntu on a old laptop, i wonder if it's worthwhile to switch to MATE
[21:58] <macdado> it's mainly doing stuff like VNC, accessing local network
[21:58] <nomic> im really happy with mate . .weeks after getting it (pi3s), pi3 replaced my old humungous hp workstations -- I ran the upgrade to 16.04 while continuing to work (try that with windows) .. it all continues to run with 16.04
[21:58] <nomic> they are rock solid -- an xubuntu user here -- I expect nothing to fail .. nothing does with mate
[21:58] <nomic> & everything is where I expect it to be
[21:59]  * nomic has a lower electricity bill, permanent NFS (am no longer losing files) .. and HD playback
[21:59] <nomic> is good being able to just flick on a monitor and the desktop is there , in a different position
[22:00] <nomic> beautiful -- the OS not being an issue ie. the PC
[22:00] <nomic> someone said the PC will turn into a lump on the HDMI cable - its close to that .. these things are small
[22:01]  * nomic uses x2x to drift mouse cursor across from laptop (xubuntu)
[22:01] <SonikkuAmerica> << Also an Xubuntu user, but on Ubuntu MATE's social media and QA teams.
[22:02] <macdado> okay so xubuntu it's equally good, it's just a matter of desktop enviroment
[22:02] <nomic> i've left it on my laptop (main thing I type on) -- I could replace it with mate
[22:02] <SonikkuAmerica> Well, in that vein, so is Unity, GNOME, KDE, LXDE... :P
[22:02] <macdado> of course
[22:02]  * nomic has been an xubuntu user since 10.04
[22:03] <macdado> I was trying some other distros in VMware
[22:03] <macdado> GNOME... is a bit weird
[22:03] <macdado> looks nice
[23:51] <pilne> must say... absolutely loving mate still
[23:51] <pilne> just trying to find a way to re-order the stuff on my bottom panel using "ubuntu mate" panel layout
[23:52] <ouroumov> re-order?
[23:52] <pilne> like, right now it is good, but if i launch steam after i launch my browser, the tab thing for steam is always to the right of firefox windows
[23:53] <rev_> Drag and drop reordering works for me.
[23:54] <ouroumov> yES IT WORKS
[23:54] <ouroumov> Oups
[23:55] <SonikkuAmerica> oH NOES, CAPS LICK IS ON [sic]
[23:55] <pilne> ohhhhh it has a tiny indicator that it will work
[23:55] <pilne> i gotta be a bit more exact than the windoze at work, but i'm ok with that :)
[23:57] <pilne> i was beeing sloppy and they'd snap back lol


[00:11] <mup> Bug #1735863 opened: dhcp not respecting reserved ranges <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1735863>
[11:23] <rezroo> I just asked this question on ask-ubuntu: https://askubuntu.com/questions/982406/how-do-i-enter-maas-rescue-mode
[11:25] <rezroo> My deployments are in an spinning loop. The node finished booting but failed to tell MaaS if it worked or not. I don't see an option for Rescue mode.
[11:25] <rezroo> I want to debug the problem causing the python exception. How do I get rescue mode to ssh into the node?
[15:20] <atdprhs> Hi everyone, I have followed this url >> https://tutorials.ubuntu.com/tutorial/create-kvm-pods-with-maas?_ga=2.122713161.317020200.1511341689-1131947244.1511341689#8 , but when I compose a machine, it fails
[15:21] <atdprhs> Error:Node must be connected to a network. >> it sees eth0, I do not have eth0, I only have enos connections
[15:21] <atdprhs> Error:Mount the root '/' filesystem to be able to deploy this node. not sure what to do about this
[15:21] <atdprhs> can anyone help pls
[15:30] <atdprhs> Do anyone have experience around pods and commissioning new machines by composing?
[15:50] <atdprhs> is there anyone here?
[15:52] <bdx> atdprhs: Mailing list: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/maas-devel
[15:53] <bdx> atdprhs: people usually aren't around as much on the weekend
[15:54] <bdx> atdprhs: write your question to the mailing list^^, possibly someone might answer here over the weekend, but better luck checking back in on monday
[15:54] <bdx> and write the list in the meantime if you like
[15:55] <atdprhs> thanks bdx, i'm following the link
[15:56] <bdx> awesome, you may need to subscribe, and be approved first (if you havent been already)  to be able to send a message to the mailing list, so once you do that you should be g2g
[15:56] <bdx> np
[23:11] <bdx> https://bugs.launchpad.net/maas/+bug/1735950
[23:12] <bdx> you guys are going to have to start paying me
[23:12] <bdx> :)
[23:15] <mup> Bug #1735950 opened: failed events, borked nodes - ValueError: Old and New apt format defined with unequal values True vs False @ apt_preserve_sources_list <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1735950>
[23:22] <bdx> jp - glad to help
[23:23] <bdx> but honestly - about that openstack :)
[23:57] <mup> Bug #1735952 opened: traceback reporting <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1735952>


[01:17] <ripps> Okay, I have a new mobo with 939 processor and I need a new pci-e video card to go with it, what's the best I can get for around $70-80?
[01:48] <AlphaCluster> ripps: are you hoping to game alot or just want video effects?
[01:49] <ripps> I'm not a huge gamer, but I do play emulator's somewhat regularily. Being able to play psx/n64 games would be nice
[01:50] <ripps> Video playback and future-proofing is my priority
[01:50] <AlphaCluster> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814131381 ?
[01:51] <AlphaCluster> Should even have a good Open Source driver ;)
[01:52] <ripps> does it have xvmc in the -radeon driver?
[01:52] <ripps> i know that r600 recently got xvmc
[01:53] <AlphaCluster> isnt 4xxx series r600?
[01:53] <ripps> I don't know, that's why I'm asking :)
[01:53] <AlphaCluster> lol yeah im gu8na go double check
[01:53] <ripps> HD playback is a high priority for me
[01:54] <AlphaCluster> i dont think it has hardware accelleration with the os driver yet
[01:54] <ripps> fast and smooth graphics, 2nd. And 3d gaming is 3rd
[01:54] <AlphaCluster> http://www.x.org/wiki/RadeonFeature
[01:54] <AlphaCluster> they have been working on it though.
[01:55] <AlphaCluster> I know the prepriatery drivers provide a VA-API driver. If you want accel you migh twant to go nvidia though its prepriatry it will proved VDPAU for awhile.
[01:56] <ripps> yeah, I'm aware of the fglrx va-api, and I know that it is crap
[01:56] <AlphaCluster> lol i got it working but needed to manually build mplayer
[01:57] <AlphaCluster> i personally have a 5770 and am waiting for the power management to be added to the 5xxx series
[01:58] <AlphaCluster> btw 4xxx series is r700 but r600 and r700 are almost the same...
[01:58] <ripps> I'm considering nvidia, but I'm concerned over the future. You need the proprietary for things to work, but driver has a habit of not working with the bleeding-edge xserver/kernel and I'm also worried about the switch to wayland in a few years.
[02:00] <AlphaCluster> yeah that is why i got ATU
[02:00] <AlphaCluster> ATI
[02:01] <AlphaCluster> it may not be perfect now but they will eventually get it working through gallum
[02:02] <ripps> Can you play you play 1080p video fairly easily?
[02:03] <AlphaCluster> lkol yeah
[02:04] <AlphaCluster> my only issue is sometimes there is tearing on my 5xxx but i would guess that is less common on the 4xxx as it has better XV support
[02:04] <ripps> I'm not entirely sure what the processor with this mobo is. I know it's an amd 64 bit, and it's 939 socket. But I don't have a fan for it yet, so I can turn on the computer yet to check out the specs.
[02:04] <ripps> s/can/can't/
[02:05] <ripps> I'm purchasing a video card and fan now
[02:08] <AlphaCluster> nice
[02:09] <AlphaCluster> well if you got a dual core you should be fine :)
[02:09] <ripps> I hope it is
[02:10] <ripps> i think most all 64 bit for the 939 were dual, but I can't be sure
[02:10] <AlphaCluster> not all but most for desktop were
[02:13] <ripps> actually, I just typed in the serial number into google.
[02:14] <ripps> Looks like it's a amd 3200+
[02:14] <ripps> which is only single core :/
[02:14] <ripps> still better than my current desktop
[02:15] <AlphaCluster> lol yeah
[02:15] <AlphaCluster> i think i played 720p fine on one of those
[02:16] <ripps> maybe I should get nvidia than, so that I can I get the hardware acceleration
[02:17] <AlphaCluster> yeah might be worth it in that case
[02:18] <AlphaCluster> i almost want to say go with a 9800 then lol
[02:18] <AlphaCluster> but i dont remember if taht does vdpau or if its after that series
[02:20] <ripps> http://bleedingedgelinux.blogspot.com/2010/10/nvidias-geforce-gt-430-next-htpc-king.html
[02:20] <ripps> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814121397
[02:20] <ripps> this looks good.
[02:20] <AlphaCluster> yep that should be good :)
[02:21] <AlphaCluster> i missed taht cause i thoguht they were all to high of a price
[02:21] <ripps> hopefully nouveou will be more mature by the time wayland comes out
[02:21] <ripps> or nvidia get with it and supports wayland
[02:22] <AlphaCluster> yeah if wayland get popular they will support it
[02:22] <ripps> in an ideal world, I would upgrade to an i-core intel setup with sandybridge in the future. Intel video support has pretty good va-api
[02:24] <AlphaCluster> lol i will report that back to the group
[02:24] <AlphaCluster> just got a cheap gateway for a htpc
[02:24] <AlphaCluster> guna try ubuntu 10.10 and see hwo intel support is
[02:25] <ripps> if you have any computer your not using, feel free to hand them down to me, I'm alway looking to upgrade my setup. Also trying to build my mom an htpc as well
[02:25] <ripps> ;)
[02:25] <AlphaCluster> lol sadly i dont have anything that is useable that i dont use
[02:26] <AlphaCluster> the only retired computer i have around is a Dell Latitude LS with a P3 in it rofl
[05:45] <unrealjeff> hi friends
[05:45] <unrealjeff> MINNESOTA FRIENDS
[06:39] <tonyyarusso> hello
[06:39] <Takyoji> Egad, there's people in here from Minnesota? D:
[07:15] <unrealjeff> hi
[07:15] <unrealjeff> :D
[07:15] <Takyoji> Hello
[07:15] <unrealjeff> hi but brb
[07:16] <Takyoji> Just playing with some malware (in a VirtualBox VM) that my brother's Windows 7 laptop was just infected with; as part of a drive-by download when doing casual web browsing in the most recent version of Google Chrome.
[07:17] <unrealjeff> brb ubuntuites
[07:17] <unrealjeff> wow
[07:32]  * Takyoji wonders why some names in Pidgin in IRC discussions are italicized
[19:14] <Wally____> Hello
[19:15] <Wally____> If anyone has a some intermittent time to help with a ubuntu problem, let me know.
[19:16] <Wally____> Ubuntu 10.04 that won't boot past login screen
[19:17] <tonyyarusso> Wally____: Generally it's best to just describe all of your problem as best you can and if someone knows the answer, they'll respond.  (Also known as "don't ask to ask")
[19:17] <Wally____> I messed up the display drivers and need to reinstall them using a live cd
[19:17] <Wally____> I need help reinstalling the display drivers using a live cd
[19:18] <tonyyarusso> Which video family?  (Intel, ATI, nVidia, etc.)
[19:18] <Wally____> nvidia
[19:19] <Wally____> i am on a linux mint 9 live usb currently
[19:20] <tonyyarusso> Fixing Ubuntu from a Mint environment might be trickier than necessary - do you have an Ubuntu image handy?
[19:20] <Wally____> i willl get one.  be back soon
[19:21] <Wally____> brb
[19:43] <Wally> ok.  Back
[19:46] <Wally> tonyyarusso, did you have a method to install a NVidia Driver via a live usb?
[19:50] <Takyoji> I believe you can get the installer directly from NVidia
[19:50] <Takyoji> Just not as convenient as doing it through the package manager though I believe
[19:51] <Wally> The problem is my ubuntu 10.04 will not boot.  I tried to update the driver and f'd up
[19:51] <Wally> Once it tries to load the login screen it freezes
[19:51] <Wally> when I boot into recovery mode, the display is messed up and I can't see what i am doing
[19:51] <Wally> so i need to load it via a live usb
[19:52] <Wally> to try and save my install. :(
[19:52] <Wally> I have the install downloaded to the download folder on the home/"Username" of the ubuntu install.
[19:52] <Takyoji> Could boot to command line and remove nvidia-current and nvidia-common (which should hopefully remove everything depending on such)
[19:53] <Wally> they are already gone
[19:53] <Wally> I purged them via command line
[20:02] <tonyyarusso> Wally: From a Live environment, you can chroot into the hard disk partitions, and run apt commands and whatnot from there for whatever you need to do, affecting the installed system.
[21:33] <Takyoji> Anyone heard of the MovableType CMS before at all?
[21:33] <Takyoji> just came across it out of curiosity myself
[21:44] <Wally> I need some help with running a script via chroot
[21:47] <Wally> I get  ERROR: missing/broken uname.  Cannot perform platform check.
[21:48] <Wally> while login as chroot
[21:48] <Wally> but when I uname it still shows me as my live usb uname
[23:00] <unrealjeff> hi
[23:00] <Wally______> hi
[23:02] <unrealjeff> your name is long
[23:02] <unrealjeff> is this a free to talk IRC
[23:17] <tonyyarusso> Takyoji: I have.
[23:17] <Wally______> I need to run a NVIDIA install script through chroot but I keep getting errors.
[23:17] <tonyyarusso> I think it's more blogging platform than CMS though, a la WordPress.
[23:18] <Wally______> I am logged in to the other user but when I run the script i get  ERROR: missing/broken uname.  Cannot perform platform check.
[23:18] <tonyyarusso> unrealjeff: within some reasonable limits, yes.
[23:18] <unrealjeff> tonyyarusso: cool
[23:18] <unrealjeff> so what part of Minnesota?
[23:19] <tonyyarusso> Wally______: do a `which uname` - what is the path given and can you run it with the full path?
[23:19] <tonyyarusso> unrealjeff: Twin Cities
[23:20] <Wally______> root@ubuntu:/home/wally/Downloads#
[23:20] <unrealjeff> i live in a suburb of the twin cities
[23:20] <Wally______> root@ubuntu:/home/Downloads# which uname
[23:20] <Wally______> /bin/uname
[23:20] <Wally______> is what I get inreturn of that
[23:21] <Wally______> first i did chroot /media/linux/
[23:21] <Wally______> which was the mount point of my system
[23:22] <Wally______> then i did chroot
[23:22] <Wally______> errr scratch that
[23:22] <Wally______> then i cd to the "Downloads"
[23:22] <Wally______> then sh "NVIDIA-BlahBlah"
[23:23] <Wally______> and I get
[23:23] <Wally______> root@ubuntu:/home/wally/Downloads# sh NVIDIA-Linux-x86-260.19.29.run
[23:23] <Wally______> NVIDIA-Linux-x86-260.19.29.run: 735: cannot create /dev/null: Permission denied
[23:23] <Wally______> NVIDIA-Linux-x86-260.19.29.run: 736: cannot create /dev/null: Permission denied
[23:23] <Wally______> ERROR: missing/broken uname.  Cannot perform platform check.
[23:23] <tonyyarusso> whoa, dude
[23:23] <tonyyarusso> !pastebin
[23:23] <Wally______> sorry
[23:23] <tonyyarusso> unrealjeff: actually I'm in a suburb as well - same thing
[23:23] <unrealjeff> AV
[23:23] <tonyyarusso> Wrong side o' the river!
[23:24] <tonyyarusso> Wally______: are you root?
[23:25] <unrealjeff> hhaha
[23:25] <Wally______> root on my live cd? or on the chroot??
[23:25] <tonyyarusso> both, really
[23:29] <Wally______> ok  i gotta reset the live cd root password
[23:33] <Wally______> ok I am


[00:55] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Builds: Ubuntu Kylin Desktop amd64 [Zesty Beta 1] (20170219) has been added
[00:55] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Builds: Ubuntu Kylin Desktop i386 [Zesty Beta 1] (20170219) has been added
[01:48] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: mutter [ppc64el] (zesty-proposed/universe) [3.23.90-0ubuntu2] (desktop-extra, edubuntu, ubuntugnome)
[01:49] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: mutter [i386] (zesty-proposed/universe) [3.23.90-0ubuntu2] (desktop-extra, edubuntu, ubuntugnome)
[01:50] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: mutter [amd64] (zesty-proposed/universe) [3.23.90-0ubuntu2] (desktop-extra, edubuntu, ubuntugnome)
[01:55] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: mutter [armhf] (zesty-proposed/universe) [3.23.90-0ubuntu2] (desktop-extra, edubuntu, ubuntugnome)
[01:59] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: mutter [arm64] (zesty-proposed/universe) [3.23.90-0ubuntu2] (desktop-extra, edubuntu, ubuntugnome)
[02:16] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: mutter [powerpc] (zesty-proposed/universe) [3.23.90-0ubuntu2] (desktop-extra, edubuntu, ubuntugnome)
[02:35] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Builds: Xubuntu Desktop amd64 [Zesty Beta 1] has been updated (20170220)
[02:35] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Builds: Xubuntu Desktop i386 [Zesty Beta 1] has been updated (20170220)
[02:40] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: mutter [s390x] (zesty-proposed/universe) [3.23.90-0ubuntu2] (desktop-extra, edubuntu, ubuntugnome)
[02:43] <tsimonq2> flocculant: Around?
[02:43] <tsimonq2> Oh wait, it's night in the UK isn't it? :/
[02:44] <valorie> maybe morning
[02:44] <valorie> date -u
[02:44] <valorie> Mon Feb 20 02:44:36 UTC 2017
[02:45] <Bashing-om> GMT 02:44 .
[02:45] <valorie> very early or pretty darn late
[02:45] <tsimonq2> I think I pressed the right button...
[02:45] <tsimonq2> We'll see when the bot comes through in a minute...
[02:45] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Builds: Lubuntu Alternate amd64 [Zesty Beta 1] (20170220) has been added
[02:45] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Builds: Lubuntu Desktop amd64 [Zesty Beta 1] (20170220) has been added
[02:46] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Builds: Lubuntu Desktop i386 [Zesty Beta 1] (20170220) has been added
[02:46] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Builds: Lubuntu Alternate i386 [Zesty Beta 1] (20170220) has been added
[02:46] <tsimonq2> Oooooooh I did it I think
[03:02] <tsimonq2> infinity: Lubuntu Alternate is broken, I think it's related to the net-tools thing O__o http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/cd-build-logs/lubuntu/zesty/daily-20170220.log
[03:03] <tsimonq2> Missing debootstrap-required net-tools
[03:03] <tsimonq2> CD1 missing some packages needed by debootstrap
[03:03] <tsimonq2> make: *** [/srv/cdimage.ubuntu.com/scratch/lubuntu/zesty/daily/tmp/zesty-i386/packages-stamp] Error 1
[03:03] <tsimonq2> ERROR WHILE BUILDING OFFICIAL IMAGES !!
[03:03] <tsimonq2> :/
[03:04] <tsimonq2> slangasek: ^^^
[05:00] <infinity> tsimonq2: Fixing.
[05:06] <infinity> tsimonq2: Should be fixed after the next publisher run (give it an hour or so).
[05:23] <valorie> infinity: did you see my msg about the missing Lubuntu 16.04.2 i386?
[05:23] <valorie> at least there is no torrent on http://torrent.ubuntu.com:6969/
[05:59] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Builds: Kubuntu Desktop amd64 [Zesty Beta 1] has been updated (20170220)
[05:59] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Builds: Kubuntu Desktop i386 [Zesty Beta 1] has been updated (20170220)
[06:13] <krytarik> valorie: Funnily enough, yes - but it's here: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/lubuntu/releases/xenial/release/
[06:14] <valorie> oh gosh, I wasn't very thorough
[06:14] <valorie> thanks krytarik
[06:15] <valorie> I like to seed all the supported releases since I have a good connection
[06:16] <valorie> now seeding. :-)
[06:51] <krytarik> Apparently related to valorie's request, I'm getting "Requested download is not authorized for use with this tracker." on that torrent.
[06:52] <valorie> same here
[07:22] <valorie> seems to be working on my restarted box, so thanks to whoever or whatever cosmic benificence fixed it
[07:40] <fossfreedom> tsimong2: infinity: any chance that Ubuntu Budgie can be added to the Beta 1 builds? - just checked the ISO tracker and we are not there.  TIA
[07:42] <valorie> fossfreedom: have you marked the images as ready?
[07:43] <fossfreedom> valorie: in the iso-tracker? I've clicked on the beta 1 link and we are not listed.
[07:43] <flocculant> fossfreedom: pretty sure a few flavours who are in aren't on there yet - but the builds haven't been turned off yet either - so iso's are still building daily
[07:43] <flocculant> valorie: beta1 hasn't even started yet - no-one should have marked images ready :)
[07:43] <fossfreedom> flocculant: ah - will wait. Thanks
[07:44] <valorie> oh, I see what you mean, sorry for the noise
[07:44] <flocculant> valorie:it's never noise :)
[07:44] <valorie> flocculant: once the tests are run, before the final ISOs are released, we each have to mark them ready to go
[07:45] <flocculant> valorie: yea I know :)
[07:45] <valorie> by tests are run, I mean each flavor's tests
[07:45] <valorie> not just auto-tests and such
[07:45]  * valorie is still learning all this stuff as well
[07:45] <valorie> RM in training
[07:45] <flocculant> valorie: yup - been doing it for xubuntu for ages :p
[07:45] <flocculant> valorie: oh cool :)
[07:46] <valorie> wxl is doing the honors for Kubuntu this round
[07:46] <flocculant> yea - I've noticed that
[07:47]  * flocculant is already pondering refusing to release b1 - before it's even started ...
[07:47] <valorie> no law says ya gotta release it
[07:48] <flocculant> indeed - we have lock issues - again :(
[07:48] <valorie> :(
[07:50] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted snapcraft [source] (yakkety-proposed) [2.27.1+16.10]
[07:50] <acheronuk> when do the candidate images spin?
[07:50] <flocculant> ubuntu and lubuntu affected by the same thing
[07:50]  * acheronuk ponders sneaking plasma 5.9.2 in
[07:51] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted snapcraft [source] (xenial-proposed) [2.27.1]
[07:51] <flocculant> acheronuk: when whoever is doing the canonical side stops iso's building I assume
[07:52] <valorie> acheronuk: \o/
[07:52] <valorie> bugfix++
[07:53] <acheronuk> valorie: yep. running it here and it fixes a few bugs I specifically had in 5.9.1 :)
[07:54] <valorie> cool
[07:57] <infinity> valorie: Known, a few torrents got missed, I'll get them added.
[07:57] <valorie> thanks infinity
[07:57]  * valorie heads to bed
[08:04] <infinity> valorie: And fixed (well, once the tracker picks up the change).
[08:56] <LocutusOfBorg> apw, Archive Admins, what is going on?
[08:56] <LocutusOfBorg>  virtualbox-ext-pack | 5.1.14-3                | zesty-proposed/multiverse | source
[08:56] <LocutusOfBorg>  virtualbox-ext-pack | 5.1.14-3                | zesty-proposed/universe   | all
[08:56] <LocutusOfBorg> this is why it is not migrating
[08:57]  * apw looks
[08:59] <apw> LocutusOfBorg, i think that must have just gotten fixed
[08:59] <apw> oh no, ignore me
[08:59] <LocutusOfBorg> it makes no sense to me
[08:59] <LocutusOfBorg> really, your move was correct
[08:59] <LocutusOfBorg> and britney did let it migrate
[09:00] <LocutusOfBorg> oh... indeed I got it
[09:00] <LocutusOfBorg> also -2 was in universe
[09:00] <LocutusOfBorg> you moved the source package but not the binary :p
[09:01] <apw> not quite sure how we got here, but i'll get us back to sanity
[09:01] <LocutusOfBorg> not sure why britney did let it migrate the first time
[09:01] <LocutusOfBorg> probably due archive reorg you can have different pockets for binaries?
[09:04]  * LocutusOfBorg leaves
[09:04] <LocutusOfBorg> thanks
[09:05] <apw> LocutusOfBorg, done
[09:05] <LocutusOfBorg> thanks!
[10:05] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Builds: Ubuntu Budgie Desktop amd64 [Zesty Beta 1] (20170219) has been added
[10:05] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Builds: Ubuntu Budgie Desktop i386 [Zesty Beta 1] (20170219) has been added
[10:05] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Builds: Ubuntu Studio DVD amd64 [Zesty Beta 1] (20170219) has been added
[10:05] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Builds: Ubuntu Studio DVD i386 [Zesty Beta 1] (20170219) has been added
[11:01] <cpaelzer> for tracking of a potential regression-update bug, should we tag it as such once confirmed or once suspect to be one?
[11:19] <apw> cpaelzer, there seems little harm in tagging it early, and removing it again
[11:39] <cpaelzer> thank apw, will do so
[12:02] <jbicha> now that we're past Feature Freeze, powerpc will be dropped? I'm asking because openimageio is holding up the libraw transition
[12:09] <jbicha> please drop the force-badtest for gjs/armhf from pitti's hints file (since he can't do it himself anymore), s390x is still not working
[12:12] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted mutter [amd64] (zesty-proposed) [3.23.90-0ubuntu2]
[12:12] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted mutter [armhf] (zesty-proposed) [3.23.90-0ubuntu2]
[12:12] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted mutter [powerpc] (zesty-proposed) [3.23.90-0ubuntu2]
[12:12] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted mutter [s390x] (zesty-proposed) [3.23.90-0ubuntu2]
[12:12] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted mutter [arm64] (zesty-proposed) [3.23.90-0ubuntu2]
[12:12] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted mutter [ppc64el] (zesty-proposed) [3.23.90-0ubuntu2]
[12:12] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted mutter [i386] (zesty-proposed) [3.23.90-0ubuntu2]
[12:24] <tsimonq2> infinity: What was the problem?
[13:10] <jibel> Laney, flocculant who are the contacts for xubuntu and studio for zesty?
[13:10] <jibel> I'll update the manifest
[13:10]  * Laney doesn't know, sorry
[13:14] <jbicha> jibel: could you update Ubuntu GNOME contacts to jbicha / darkxst ?
[13:24] <jibel> jbicha, doen
[13:24] <jibel> done*
[14:17] <tsimonq2> jibel: Update Lubuntu to tsimonq2 / wxl / gilir please
[15:05] <flocculant> jibel: Xubuntu is me and akxwi-dave, not completely of all of Studio, but sakrecoer is their team lead now
[15:16] <flocculant> jibel: https://launchpad.net/~rosco2 is Studio's test team lead
[15:36] <xnox> Laney, Looking at http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/update_excuses.html i have no idea how liblog4ada and libaws broken on ppc64el & s390x and rebuilds do not appear to help.
[15:36] <Laney> Me neither
[15:36] <xnox> Can those two packages be demoted to -proosed on those two architectures and blocked?
[15:36] <xnox> and then migrate zlib over?
[15:36] <Laney> Not by me they can't
[15:37] <Laney> also, nacc was looking at those packages recently
[15:37] <xnox> nacc gave up on them too
[15:38] <xnox> can perl migrate? without the emb thing?
[15:38] <Laney> Don't know
[15:38] <Laney> What does your analysis say the failure is caused by?
[15:39] <xnox> that it redefines symbols and prints that stderr when tests expect no stderr.
[15:40] <xnox> but it is not broken per se.
[15:40] <Laney> it prints errors because there's an error ...
[15:41] <xnox> horum
[15:43] <Laney> well, I guess it might not be an error, but then the output could be whitelisted
[15:44] <Laney> analysing the failure would answer that
[15:47] <xnox> and i can give up at looking at this stuff, until after qt tests finish
[15:48] <Laney> if an upload triggers < 20 tests it goes into a separate queue
[15:49] <Laney> and all the queues are processed in parallel
[15:49] <Laney> so it won't get starved out
[15:49] <xnox> ah, that's what huge means
[15:49] <Laney> yes
[15:49] <Laney> but i'm sure this failure will reproduce locally
[15:49] <Laney> so you would know it was fixed before uploading anyway
[16:37] <jibel> tsimonq2, is lubuntu powerpc a product you officially support ?
[16:38] <jibel> tsimonq2, it's listed in the manifest but not in the products.
[17:06] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New source: gnome-recipes (zesty-proposed/primary) [0.14.2-0ubuntu1]
[17:35] <tsimonq2> jibel: No more for Zesty Daily
[22:07] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: linux-signed-hwe [amd64] (xenial-proposed/main) [4.8.0-38.41~16.04.1] (no packageset)
[22:07] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: desktop-file-utils (xenial-proposed/main) [0.22-1ubuntu5 => 0.22-1ubuntu5.1] (ubuntu-desktop)
[22:23] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted linux-signed-hwe [amd64] (xenial-proposed) [4.8.0-38.41~16.04.1]
[22:23] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: desktop-file-utils (yakkety-proposed/main) [0.23-1ubuntu1 => 0.23-1ubuntu1.1] (ubuntu-desktop)
[23:06] <rtg> infinity, I've removed the block-proposed tag from bug #1664217. Please update the installer accordingly.