[00:01] <genii> octav1a: If the PSU has a lot of things connected, maybe disconnect something non essential like a floppy drive
[00:31] <octav1a> genii / Sven_vB -- Indeed, the issue appears to be a bad SATA data cable :/
[00:40] <Sven_vB> In Ubuntu focal, is /usr/bin/pavucontrol from pavucontrol 4.0-1build1 somehow patched/different from the original PulseAudio's version?
[00:43] <sarnold> Sven_vB: you can grab the sources with apt-get source pavucontrol   or if your deb-src lines aren't set up, grab it from https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pavucontrol/4.0-1build1
[00:45] <Sven_vB> sarnold, thanks!
[00:56] <chef_trip> greetings, i'm at wits end. my lubuntu boots to what looks like a frozen verbose startup, but ctl alt f2 gives me a successful login, startx gives me a cannot connect to x server no protocol specified, but sudo startx works, but gives me a strange looking lxqt desktop
[00:56] <chef_trip> any ideas how to get a normal GUI login?
[00:57] <Toadisattva> maybe try reistalling lightdm?
[00:58] <chef_trip> sudo apt install --reinstall lightdm?
[01:00] <krytarik> !xhangs | chef_trip: Try this instead..
[01:02] <krytarik> Also, running the desktop environment as root but using your own home directory, you probably have screwed up the permissions of the latter.
[01:02] <chef_trip> ubottu, can i do that from the root gui?
[01:03] <chef_trip> can i do that from the root gui?
[01:03] <sarnold> krytarik: oh, good call. using sudo startx has a very good chance of scribbling over all kinds of important files
[01:03] <chef_trip> yikes
[01:03] <oerheks> root gui??
[01:04] <chef_trip> so, i should log out asap and tty instead?
[01:04] <sarnold> yeah, check the ownership of all the files in your home directory, ls -la  would be a good start
[01:04] <sarnold> you might need to look deeper, too
[01:05] <chef_trip> i already changed the ugly theme which hurt my eyes, should i try to revert it to the ugly harsh theme before logging out?
[01:05] <sarnold> probably doesn't matter much
[01:06] <chef_trip> ugh, what about if i just do another reinstall? would the home directory still have messed up permissions?
[01:06] <chef_trip> sarnold, should i ls -la while in the root gui or get out?
[01:06] <oerheks> why as root?
[01:07] <chef_trip> it was the only way to startx
[01:07] <chef_trip> startx returned a...
[01:07] <chef_trip> greetings, i'm at wits end. my lubuntu boots to what looks like a frozen verbose startup, but ctl alt f2 gives me a successful login, startx gives me a cannot connect to x server no protocol specified, but sudo startx works
[01:08] <chef_trip> umm, ls -la i really can't make sense of the output, that's way above me
[01:10] <krytarik> !pastebinit
[01:10] <chef_trip>  rm .{X,ICE}authority no such file or directory
[01:10] <chef_trip> should i type one of the x or ICE within the brackets?
[01:11] <krytarik> Well, it should work as it is, provided you are at the top of your home directory.
[01:32] <Sven_vB> I discovered a simple solution for my pavucontrol problem from earlier: I just have to launch it with the DBUS_SESSION_BUS_ADDRESS environment variable empty or unset.
[01:32] <sarnold> Sven_vB: oh *strange*
[01:32] <sarnold> Sven_vB: does it actually work to control pulseaudio in that case?
[01:33] <Sven_vB> yes. I'm able to change headset volume  at least, and it shows VU meter for the headset flickering realistically.
[01:33] <sarnold> nice, thanks for reporting back
[01:34] <Sven_vB> in #pulseaudio the odd behavior was seen as an Ubuntu-specific bug
[01:35] <Sven_vB> I had tried to compile original pavucontrol to compare, but got stuck at http://paste.debian.net/plainh/b9a60388
[01:36] <oerheks> https://twitter.com/JakeLobin/status/1358832403943477254 .. and China did not create Covid-19 ..
[01:36] <oerheks> oops wrong channel
[01:38] <InZaneGamer84> i wish twitter would collapse
[01:39] <leftyfb> InZaneGamer84: oerheks admitted making a mistake. Please stay on topic here
[01:39] <InZaneGamer84> leftyfb: sure :-)
[01:44] <Hash> Hello the friendly dudes of ubuntu
[01:45] <Hash> I am using 20.034 but also kubuntu-desktop instead of regular buntu
[01:45] <Hash> I am trying to figure out how to adjust a microphone gain volume
[01:45] <Hash> When I talk into audacity, even next to mouth, it is very little volume
[01:45] <Hash> Which is a program to make mic more louder for pickup
[01:46] <Hash> This is a NEEWER mic, jacks into sound card mic in port, and has a 48w phantom power supply, not usb, no drivers needed.
[01:46] <InZaneGamer84> Hash: pavucontrol?
[01:46] <Hash> I have pavu control open
[01:46] <Hash> sorry pavucontrol-qt is the one that opened
[01:46] <Hash> Now where is the option to make the mic gain more?
[01:47] <Hash> I checked out all the tabs
[01:47] <sarnold> Sven_vB: ^^ hah apparently there's a pavucontrol-qt too
[01:47] <Sven_vB> yes
[01:47] <Hash> Ok it showed up this time
[01:47] <Hash> I see the mic I can select it
[01:47] <Hash> I disabled the webcam internal mic and make this default only
[01:48] <Sven_vB> I found another solution that requires less modification on my scripts: printf >/usr/local/bin/pavucontrol '%s\n' '#!/bin/sh' 'export DBUS_SESSION_BUS_ADDRESS=; exec /usr/bin/pavucontrol "$@"; exit $?' # then chmod a+x
[01:48] <Hash> Ok now I see a bar
[01:48] <Hash> Mic is now 100% 0.00db gain
[01:48] <Hash> It was by default -50.0 db
[01:49] <Hash> How come ubuntu default is so low?!
[01:49] <Hash> You guys should increase it to 100%/0.0 db gain
[01:49] <Hash> You know, normal. :D
[01:49] <oerheks> DOes one really use a mic with 10% gain?
[01:49] <Hash> Yes
[01:49] <Hash> I mean I read wrong
[01:49] <Hash> I read you said 100%. I dunno abotu 10%
[01:49] <oerheks> c/100%
[01:50] <Hash> I don't even think it's usable at 10%
[01:50] <oerheks> one zero more
[01:50] <Hash> so my dyslexia was correct
[01:50] <Hash> so I use it at 100%
[01:50] <Hash> I dunno.
[01:50] <oerheks> it is like volume @ 100%, it is too much.
[01:51] <Hash> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j7eTUtdAyaI&feature=youtu.be
[01:51] <Hash> 100% mic gain
[01:51] <Hash> How does this sound?
[01:51] <InZaneGamer84> for some reason ubuntu @ 100 is wayyyy louder than win10 @ 100
[01:51] <Hash> Mic is about 1-2 feet away from amp
[01:51] <Hash> It's a 15W marshall amp
[01:51] <Hash> What do you think?
[01:51] <oerheks> what application is using the mic?
[01:51] <Sven_vB> some of my USB microphones send amazingly loud signal, too
[01:51] <oerheks> skype has some weird autovolume
[01:51] <Hash> Well, this is not USB. This is directly into the mic port in the sound card
[01:52] <Hash> I went this way becuase if I Wanted to upgrade my mic, if I went usb, I'd have to buy a whole new mic
[01:52] <Hash> And USB mics have pre amp, amp, and all the electronics built into one package.
[01:52] <Hash> I dislike this option.
[01:52] <Hash> I went with a entry level studio mic, separate power supply, and no usb interface
[01:52] <sarnold> Hash: out of my laptop speakers, seems about right
[01:52] <Hash> This way, if I Want to upgrade my mic later, I can just buy  better quality studio mic
[01:53] <sarnold> I almost never use those so it's hard to give concrete advice
[01:53] <Hash> I don't have to rebuy a pre amp or anythign else.
[01:53] <Hash> Yeah, most people get sold on usb mics
[01:53] <Hash> Marketing. I was never sold by marketing since I Was a kid.
[01:53] <Hash> No toys, nothing.
[01:53] <Hash> My brain is nice.
[01:53] <oerheks> easy on the enter, thanks
[01:54] <Hash> oerheks: that's the quickest way to make someone ignore you.
[01:54] <Hash> Good bye.
[01:58] <Hash> sarnold: I found no clipping to occur at 100% 0.0db gain. I did find clipping at 110%
[01:58] <Hash> Seems like 100% is good.
[02:01] <sarnold> nice nice
[02:29] <InZaneGamer84> are there alot of ubuntu users that come in here trying to get assistance in setting up "auto-mount" by adding an UUID entry to fstab?
[02:29] <InZaneGamer84> would it be worth it to code a python script that automates this process? I know python...
[02:30] <ornxka_> im in the buntu installer
[02:30] <ornxka_> and it says new partition table
[02:30] <ornxka_> what kind of partition table does it make?
[02:30] <ornxka_> and perhaps more importantly, why doesnt it tell you?
[02:31] <InZaneGamer84> doesn't it?
[02:31] <ornxka_> i dont see any mention of it anywhere
[02:31] <InZaneGamer84> paste a screenie
[02:31] <ornxka_> when i create a new partition i am asked if i want it to be primary or logical, so i guess its mbr?
[02:31] <InZaneGamer84> yeah
[02:31] <ornxka_> im not sure how id get it here, this is on another computer
[02:32] <InZaneGamer84> are you in the graphical installer?
[02:32] <ornxka_> yeah
[02:32] <ornxka_> i am also not sure how i can get it to create a gpt partition since i intend to use efi
[02:32] <InZaneGamer84> i'm pretty damn sure it notifies you of the type of partition table that will be created.
[02:34] <ornxka_> well, it didnt for me, so either it was supposed to and didnt, or it wasnt supposed to
[02:34] <InZaneGamer84> i've never heard of such
[02:34] <InZaneGamer84> and i've done ALOT of ubuntu installs
[02:35] <InZaneGamer84> if fact, if you're patient. i'll spin up a vm, run the installer and show you
[02:35] <ornxka_> i will be very surprised if your experience is different than mine
[02:35] <InZaneGamer84> ornxka_: give me a few
[02:35] <ornxka_> https://ubuntu.com/download/desktop/thank-you?version=20.04.2&architecture=amd64 that is the version i just downloaded
[02:36] <InZaneGamer84> yeah that's what im booting now
[02:40] <InZaneGamer84> i had to reboot it because i didn't have a hdd attached. almost there
[02:44] <InZaneGamer84> ornxka_: what the hell
[02:44] <ornxka_> perhaps this is a recent change?
[02:44] <InZaneGamer84> if so it's a lame change. let me go into the live system and run the installer. I swear i remember see it. hold on
[02:46] <InZaneGamer84> i had to turn on EFI for the VM. think i'm good now and will see it
[02:51] <InZaneGamer84> so far I don't see it...
[02:51] <InZaneGamer84> distressing
[02:52] <ornxka_> my condolences
[02:52] <InZaneGamer84> lol
[02:53] <InZaneGamer84> i guess ubuntu is trying to emulate M$
[02:53] <InZaneGamer84> now I have to know what's going on
[02:54] <ornxka_> how deep does this go??
[02:54] <InZaneGamer84> Why doesn't the Ubuntu Installer inform the user of the partition type or allow the user to pick between MBR/GPT?It seems to be MBR by default?
[02:54] <InZaneGamer84> ornxka_: did you boot with secure boot on?
[02:54] <InZaneGamer84> or off?
[02:55] <ornxka_> i can only assume the answer is something along the lines of "big words like partition tables are scary so we will just get rid of them"
[02:55] <ornxka_> its a macbook pro
[02:55] <ornxka_> so there is no secureboot that i am aware of
[02:55] <ornxka_> whats more, the disk was EFI, and when i made a new partition table, it was MBR
[02:55] <ornxka_> i dont think this machine will even boot MBR
[02:56] <InZaneGamer84> I wonder what the deal is
[02:58] <InZaneGamer84> ornxka_:  look https://askubuntu.com/questions/1296257/installing-lubuntu-20-04-with-gpt-and-efi
[02:58] <InZaneGamer84> I booted in efi and it was doing MBR....
[02:58] <ornxka_> this sounds like an actual bug
[02:59] <InZaneGamer84> i just read virtualbox doesn't support UEFI boot
[02:59] <InZaneGamer84> so that may be why I didn't see it
[02:59] <InZaneGamer84> or is it?
[02:59] <InZaneGamer84> aren't EFI/UEFI same?
[03:09] <InZaneGamer84> i'm in the uefi shell on the vm now. gonna figure this out
[03:15] <InZaneGamer84> ornxka_: i've got it
[03:15] <InZaneGamer84> ornxka_: boot into the live system. Click "try ubuntu" and use GParted to created the GPT partiton table
[03:15] <ornxka_> ahhh
[03:16] <InZaneGamer84> :-)
[03:16] <InZaneGamer84> i don't know what's up with the freaking installer
[03:16] <InZaneGamer84> why doesn't it call gparted anyway
[03:17] <InZaneGamer84> instead it's that lame simple interface to I don't what for partitioning...
[03:37] <InZaneGamer84> ornxka_: you get it installed? all set?
[04:04] <ornxka_> hooray i finally got it all booting
[04:09] <InZaneGamer84> ornxka_: great
[04:19] <InZaneGamer84> would gparted of been installed if I wouldn't of selected a 'minimal' installation?
[05:32] <zmagii> Sup.
[05:32] <zmagii> I have an external monitor. How can I control brightness without setting it on the screen's buttons?
[05:33] <zmagii> If I adjust brightness on my laptop's keyboard, it only sets the laptop screen brightness and not the external display.
[05:33] <zmagii> On Ubuntu Studio 20.04.
[05:44] <humachine> zmagii: xrandr --output [display-name] --brightness [value]
[05:44] <humachine> zmagii:  you can get the display name by running xrandr without any arguments
[05:48] <zmagii> humachine: Thanks
[07:10] <Milencho> guys could you pls suggest me a good Wifi PCI card which is compatibly (i mean) working good with ubuntu
[07:35] <ThinkT510> Milencho: anything from intel should be fine
[07:36] <Milencho> could you pls suggest one (link) my MB is AMD MSI B550 if there is any difference
[07:42] <Doct> Hi. Is it possible to create a file that cant be deleted by rm?
[07:42] <Hash> yes
[07:42] <Doct> How would I create this file?
[07:42] <Hash> One sec it's in my desk drawer in the other side
[07:42] <Doct> Oh haha
[07:43] <Doct> :P
[07:43] <Hash> TP Link, Milencho
[07:43] <Hash> Milencho: The TP Link 150Mbps TL WN722N
[07:43] <Hash> IT has a sticker on the box that says 'Linux Support'
[07:43] <Milencho> Hash, this is not PCI-E
[07:43] <Hash> I use it in my Ubuntu 18 and 20 machine
[07:43] <Hash> The one I mentioned is a USB stick with antenna
[07:44] <ThinkT510> Milencho: that motherboard seems to have a PCI-E slot. just make sure whatever wifi card you get is PCI-E
[07:44] <Hash> Does that work for you?
[07:44] <Hash> Oh I'm sorry I mistead.
[07:44] <Milencho> it's an USB stick ? i have already one, but for some reason connection is bad
[07:44] <Hash> You said PCI specificaly.
[07:44] <Milencho> it's working out of the box i mean there are drivers in the kernel
[07:44] <Hash> I mean PCI vs USB 3 won't matter as much.
[07:44] <Milencho> but i'm not satisfy as wifi dongle
[07:44] <Hash> You won't saturate the max bandwidth, at all.
[07:44] <Hash> What matters is the antenna and catching a good strong signal
[07:45] <Milencho> are you using some special drivers not these one in the kernel?
[07:45] <Hash> Nope
[07:45] <Hash> Just default ubuntu
[07:45] <Milencho> which version is your tp-link i think the first one was with Atheros chipset but the next v 2.3.4 are with rtl
[07:46] <Hash> Hmm.
[07:46] <Hash> One second I will have to insert it into the pc
[07:46] <Milencho> in my case the signal is not the problem because the wifi router is 3-4 meters from the box
[07:47] <Milencho> but for some reason net/speed/connection is horrible
[07:47] <Hash> I'm pretty sure this is 150mbps so it's usb3
[07:47] <Hash> whichis max 5gbit
[07:48] <Hash> pcie is similarly fast so let's see
[07:48] <Hash> back of the usb stick doesn't have a sticker with a version
[07:49] <Hash> [32340.589730] Chip Version Info: CHIP_8188E_Normal_Chip_TSMC_D_CUT_1T1R_RomVer(0)
[07:49] <Hash> According to dmesg
[07:50] <Hash> The Realtek RTL8188EE is an 802.11bgn 2.4G single-chip that integrates Wireless LAN (WLAN) and a network PCIe interface controller. It combines a WLAN MAC, a 1T1R capable WLAN baseband, and WLAN RF in a single chip. The RTL8192EE provides a complete solution for a high-throughput performance and low power consumption integrated wireless LAN device.
[07:51] <Hash> r8188eu that's the driver being used
[07:54] <Milencho> i'll try again and i'll reinstall drivers
[07:55] <ThinkT510> Doct: if the file was created by root and the user is using rm then the file won't be deleted due to lack of permissions
[07:55] <Milencho> cable is cable but i have wifi and she will kill me if i use cable in the middle of the room :-D
[07:55] <Hash> middle?
[07:55] <Hash> nope man
[07:55] <Hash> Here I got you
[07:56] <Hash> Get on amazon or whereever, get you a like nice solid 100 or 150 ft cable or whatever you need
[07:56] <Hash> Run the cable along the wall, by the floor. Then use those little plastic clips, and run the cable like that
[07:57] <Hash> https://www.amazon.com/Premium-Self-Adhesive-Finisher-Organizer-Management/dp/B08NX293SP/ something like this
[07:57] <Hash> Cable is always better.
[07:58] <Hash> https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0838ZR8D4 or something like this
[07:58] <Hash> if there is a doorway, go around it, up and over, hence the clips and the long cable.
[07:59] <Hash> That will be far less headache then wifi, and she won't complain
[08:00] <Doct> I'm not familiar with Ubuntu at all. I'm using github actions, and files are loaded into an ubuntu virutal environment (i think?). I'd like the ubuntu system to delete a file if it exists. Based on your answer, theoretically its possible for someone to create the file as root? and then the virtual environment wont be able to delete the file? I'm
[08:00] <Doct> using https://www.onworks.net/os-distributions/ubuntu-based/free-ubuntu-online-version19 how would I create a file as root?
[08:01] <Hash> Doct: are you familiar with linux at all?
[08:01] <Doct> currently I'm finding `sudo touch file` `sudo tee file` and `sudo chown root:root` for changing the owner after creating the file
[08:02] <Doct> Not really
[08:02] <Hash> Doct: 'sudo' means super user do
[08:02] <Hash> Why are you putting sudo before said commands?
[08:02] <ThinkT510> Doct: if the user uses sudo to get root permission they will be able to delete any file made by root
[08:03] <Doct> Hash: I believe it creates the files, so that the file is owned by root?
[08:03] <Hash> Doct: What are you ultimately trying to accomplish. I'm sorry I Came late to the party
[08:04] <Doct> Right. You said [2:55:15 AM] <ThinkT510> Doct: if the file was created by root and the user is using rm then the file won't be deleted due to lack of permissions
[08:04] <Hash> if you want to create a file that cannot be deleted by rm? For what purpose?
[08:04] <catbeard> sudo chattr +i /path/to/file
[08:04] <catbeard> fixed :)
[08:04] <ThinkT510> Doct: yes I did, and sudo is the way to get root permissions as a user. If a user can't use sudo then they can't modify any files made byroot
[08:05] <Doct> I'm using github actions, and files are loaded into an ubuntu virutal environment (i think?). I'd like the ubuntu system to delete a file if it exists. Based on your answer, theoretically its possible for someone to create the file as root? and then the virtual environment wont be able to delete the file?
[08:05] <Hash> don't make it immutable
[08:05] <catbeard> if you don't want it to be able to be deleted
[08:05] <catbeard> even with sudo
[08:05] <Hash> But I want first to understand why he wants it
[08:05] <Doct> I want to be able to delete any file
[08:05] <Doct> I want to ensure that rm file deletes the file
[08:06] <catbeard> ah, don't chattr then
[08:06] <Hash> Then just rm as root unless it has extended attr set
[08:06] <Hash> just rm is fine.
[08:06] <Hash> rm -f will do file, but most peple don't use that
[08:06] <Hash> or it's implied, I forgot.
[08:06] <Doct> So `rm -f file` will delete a file, even if the file was created by root?
[08:07] <Hash> Doct: no
[08:07] <Hash> Now you need to worry about permissions
[08:07] <Hash> Linux permissions crash couse might do you good on google
[08:07] <Hash> 5-10 min read
[08:07] <catbeard> force is never implied
[08:07] <Doct> rwx permissions? chmod?
[08:07] <Hash> I misremembred
[08:07] <Hash> I was thinkin -d
[08:07] <Hash> no on euses -rd
[08:08] <Hash> everyone knows -rf
[08:09] <Hash> Something. I'm so tired right now. I been studyign all day. I retire now. Bye
[08:10] <Doct> Take care. Thanks for the help
[08:10] <Hash> I swear I thought it was -f for file, -d for directory, and -F force
[08:10] <Hash> Oh right, I'm on linux.
[08:10] <Hash> oh ffs. Right. GNu stuffs is diff.
[08:10] <Hash> Carry on
[08:11] <Doct> I missed this "sudo is the way to get root permissions as a user. If a user can't use sudo then they can't modify any files made byroot"
[08:11] <Hash> Someting to do with how it marks inodes for deletino or marks them as 0 and not empty or soemthign something.
[08:12] <Doct> so `sudo rm -f file` will definitely delete any file? if sudo works
[08:12] <Hash> oh right -d is directory, -f is forcve, and -r/-R is recurse
[08:12] <Hash> Doct: you don't need -f
[08:12] <ThinkT510> Doct: essentially yes
[08:12] <Hash> as root, or sudo, just rm the file
[08:13] <Doct> -f supresses confirmation, correct?
[08:13] <Hash> Correct, irrc
[08:13] <Hash> Doct: have you read 'man rm' ?
[08:14] <Doct> why dont i need -f?
[08:14] <Doct> is this good enough? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DeletingFiles :D
[08:14] <catbeard> because -i is not implied
[08:14] <Hash> interactive mode is affected by this
[08:14] <Hash> what he said
[08:15] <catbeard> sometimes in bashrc it might be to have confirmation on manual removals
[08:15] <Hash> you want confirmations on removals, as some fs make it hard/impossible to undel
[08:15] <catbeard> e.g. an alias
[08:16] <Hash> You can also make an alias for rm that just mv your target to a ~/.Trash destination
[08:16] <saberu> Newbie question: I am trying to add a second public ipv4 address in Ubuntu 20.04 using Netplan. Now, i used to be able to add IP addresses in the old network config system but this stumps me. I'm using Linode and added the IP on the panel, then I added a 2nd interface denoted eth0:0 and put the ip there with the correct gateway;
[08:16] <saberu> But when I type 'ifconfig eth0:0' it doesn't show the IP, just shows the mac address of the interface
[08:16] <Doct> I should be running commands in a fresh ubuntu virtual environment. So there shouldnt be aliases
[08:16] <Hash> Most GUI desktop DE etc. come configured with a trash can
[08:16] <Hash> But for command line deletions, you can make a trash cn by making a simple bash function
[08:16] <Hash> and parsing for $1 etc.
[08:17] <Hash> But you're new to linux. So I dunno
[08:17] <catbeard> saberu: did you restart networking?
[08:18] <saberu> catbeard yes well I rebooted the whole machine
[08:18] <catbeard> post your /etc/network/interfaces ?
[08:18] <Hash> remove() { mv $* ~/.Trash } and alias rm='remove ' and then you can probably use it like rm file.txt and it will get moved to ~/.Trash instead of immediate deletion
[08:19] <saberu> # ifupdown has been replaced by netplan(5) on this system.  See
[08:19] <saberu> # /etc/netplan for current configuration.
[08:19] <saberu> and im doing the config in the netplan yaml file
[08:21] <Industrial> Hi!
[08:34] <techied> Hi, I have a PowerEdge R730xd with 3 PCIe NVMe disks (Samsung 970 Evo 500GB) and I'm trying to install Server 18.04.5. I initially went through the installer and installed it to one of the NVMe disks, however after the reboot, it didn't start Ubuntu and the server's boot menu doesn't show Ubuntu as an option. I figured that the server didn't
[08:34] <techied> support booting from NVMe, so I went through the setup again but used a 2GB flash drive as the EFI/Grub install disk. Now it'll boot, but just to the Grub prompt and I can't get any further with my knowledge. What am I missing?
[08:39] <ThinkT510> techied: is the disk you are trying to boot from set as the boot device in the bios?
[08:41] <techied> The NVMe drive doesn't show up in the BIOS, but I've tried it with the USB disk at the top of the boot list and also using the one-time boot menu to select the USB disk, both times it just sends me to the grub prompt
[08:41] <ThinkT510> if you installed ubuntu on the nvme drive then that is where it would have automatically installed grub
[08:42] <ThinkT510> if you cannot get the bios to boot from nvme then you'll need to get grub installed to a disk it cn boot from
[08:42] <techied> I manually selected the flash drive as the GRUB install location after the default way (install to the same as the root FS, which is the NVMe drive in my case) didn't work
[08:42] <techied> So GRUB is on the flash drive
[08:49] <techied> Here is where I am able to get to, it seems like grub isn't detecting my NVMe drives, as the only one shown is the USB drive, with the grub partition: https://i.techied.me/QerU2/neQErEGO12.png
[10:37] <routebee> hey guys and gals
[10:38] <routebee> I am getting "This video file cannot be played.(Error Code: 102630)" at https://rokfin.com
[10:39] <routebee> i had a similar problem on my last install and i added a codec to fix it
[10:39] <routebee> but i cant remember what codec
[10:40] <routebee> I am reading that I need the Shark007 codecs but it doesnt ring a bell
[10:40] <routebee> i thought i just needed flash but google tells me flash has just gone out of service
[10:41] <routebee> and i now google Shark007 codecs and it tells me they are windows only
[10:48] <englosh> Why can't I start my AppImage app from the desktop? I can do `./app.AppImage` from the terminal but double-clicking does not work. And yes, I did set it to be an executable in the Properties.
[11:02] <summonner> englosh, perhaps the logs have something?
[11:03] <englosh> summonner: what logs?~/.xsession-errors? I can only see the WARNING: tempfile is deprecated; consider using mktemp instead. warning
[11:04] <englosh> even if I open it with another application and select "Run Software", nothing happens and I can't see any window popping up
[11:05] <summonner> try using desktop-file-validate app.appimage
[11:07] <routebee> how do i remove packages that apt mares as no longer needed again?
[11:07] <routebee> s/mares/marks
[11:07] <summonner> routebee, run apt
[11:08] <routebee> autoremove
[11:09] <englosh> also, if I try to autocomplete the AppImage name on the terminal by pressing tab, it doesn't work. It never autocompletes that file
[11:09] <englosh> but it autocompletes others.  Please refresh the page.(Error Code: 102630)
[11:10] <juanonymous> what do i need to install when i get this error? can't find package dns
[11:11] <routebee> i have installed ubuntu-restricted-extras
[11:11] <routebee> no joy
[11:12] <routebee> i have restrted gnome and firfox
[11:12] <routebee> no joy
[11:16] <routebee> mmk... i had uninstalled the codec package when i restarted firfox and gnome so i installed it again and alt-f2 r enter and restarted firfox and it worked
[11:16] <MICROburst> is there an ubuntu channel focussed on ubuntu servers?
[11:16] <englosh> #ubuntu-server
[11:17] <MICROburst> ty. --- tried it with 's' at the end :)
[11:25] <summonner> englosh, yes, that might be the problem
[11:30] <Metamorphosis> Hello. Which of the following commands uses one option and two arguments?  1- Is -a -I /tmp  ,  2-Is -al /home  ,  3- Is -I /tmp / home  , 4- Is all /tmp /home
[11:35] <Batoeh> Good morning.
[11:35] <summonner> Metamorphosis, homework time is it?
[11:37] <Batoeh> Is there server documentation for 20.10? I found this page for 20.04. I am figuring that they just have docs for LTS just to keep things simple and I should have trouble using the documentation as long as I am not just copy pasting commands like a fool. Does that sound accurate? :)
[11:37] <Batoeh> I should have no trouble*
[11:38] <summonner> Batoeh, what page?
[11:39] <Batoeh> I apologize. I forgot to paste it. https://ubuntu.com/server/docs
[11:40] <Metamorphosis> summonner nope. I study marketing. I'm learning linux through books
[11:42] <summonner> Metamorphosis, well, the first problem I see you having is you're using an I when you should be using an L
[11:43] <Kartagis> hi. why is patch -p1 < $(curl https://www.drupal.org/files/issues/2020-06-06/tckn_kontrol.2.0.rector.patch) giving me ambigous redirect?
[11:44] <summonner> Kartagis, why not just pipe the patch
[11:44] <summonner> also, remember to use switch for following links
[11:45] <Kartagis> summonner: you mean curl https://www.drupal.org/files/issues/2020-06-06/tckn_kontrol.2.0.rector.patch|patch -p1 ?
[11:46] <summonner> curl 'http....' | patch    if that's the command yes, I'm unfamiliar with patch
[12:22] <vincenzoml> hi there
[12:23] <vincenzoml> Hi there
[12:23] <lotuspsychje> how can we help you vincenzoml ?
[12:23] <vincenzoml> I am not an expert of python at all, and need to run programs that use tensorflow-gpu 1.15
[12:24] <vincenzoml> lotuspsychje, hi, thanks for asking :D
[12:24] <vincenzoml> What I don't understand is if ubuntu ships only python 3.28 because that's how people work
[12:24] <vincenzoml> or if there is a way to get an older version (seems like I need 3.7 for tensorflow 1)
[12:25] <vincenzoml> maybe a specific ubuntu-friendly repository where I can choose older versions of python
[12:28] <vincenzoml> I need this to reproduce some research results that have open source code, but not ported to tensorflow 2
[12:28] <vincenzoml> probably the best would be to have a chroot with a previous ubuntu version, or a docker image, or a virtual machine. What's the most obvious path? I'm using a server so no GUI to configure e.g. virtualbox.
[12:35] <cbreak> vincenzoml: you can install python3.6 and python3.7 from some ppa thingie
[12:37] <cbreak> like deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/deadsnakes/ppa/ubuntu focal main
[12:38] <cbreak> vincenzoml: you could also try to do that in a docker thingie, but that'd be more troublesome
[12:38] <cbreak> or you could compile your own version of tensorflow for py3.8
[12:39] <cbreak> not sure how troublesome that'd be specifically for this change, but compiling it in general is very time consuming and annoying
[12:54] <BluesKaj> Howdy all
[12:55] <vincenzoml> cbreak, hi, sorry I don't know why I get disconnected after a while
[12:55] <vincenzoml> so compiling tensorflow is not at my reach
[12:57] <vincenzoml> I think I want to go the docker way, and learning it, but
[12:58] <cbreak> I am going the ppa route
[12:58] <cbreak> it works
[12:58] <vincenzoml> I have a very basic admin question. I want to add my user to the "docker" group. I used vigr and added my name after "docker" with the usual syntax, but no matter how many times I log out and in, I am still out of that group
[12:58] <vincenzoml> via ssh
[12:58] <vincenzoml> cbreak, will keep it in mind
[12:58] <vincenzoml> I can do both, I also want to learn docker at some pont
[12:58] <vincenzoml> point
[12:59] <cbreak> docker: https://hub.docker.com/layers/tensorflow/tensorflow/1.15.5-py3/images/sha256-181ff142e73ed8efe350f49288c7b0f5681fde66534a76d8de4fc75d4e30d571?context=explore
[12:59] <cbreak> from https://hub.docker.com/r/tensorflow/tensorflow
[12:59] <vincenzoml> cbreak, the experiment requires other stuff to be installed via pip and outside pip; do you think I can create a regular ubuntu docker image and install stuff in it and keep it permanent or is it "wrong"?
[13:00] <cbreak> just use this image as base image
[13:00] <cbreak> and install the rest in your docker file
[13:00] <cbreak> use tensorflow/tensorflow:1.15.5-py3 as FROM base image
[13:00] <vincenzoml> but still I have no clue why logging with ssh I am not added to the docker group
[13:01] <vincenzoml> like this:
[13:01] <vincenzoml> vincenzo@Lakshmi:~$ tail -n 2 /etc/group
[13:01] <vincenzoml> tomcat:x:998:
[13:01] <vincenzoml> docker:x:136:vincenzo
[13:01] <vincenzoml> vincenzo@Lakshmi:~$ groups
[13:01] <vincenzoml> vincenzo adm cdrom sudo dip video plugdev render lpadmin lxd sambashare voxlogica
[13:02] <cbreak> did you try to log out and back in?
[13:02] <lotuspsychje> use a pastebin when large texts vincenzoml
[13:02] <vincenzoml> (sorry I thought 5 lines would be ok)
[13:02] <vincenzoml> cbreak, yes I logged out and then back in
[13:03] <vincenzoml> I suspect ssh has something to do with that
[13:03] <vincenzoml> but I am a bit shy of restarting the ssh service from remote :D
[13:03] <cbreak> what's the worst that can happen.... :P
[13:04] <cbreak> you can start a screen that does some sleep 600 && shutdown -r now in a root shell
[13:04] <cbreak> and if you don't log back in in time to stop it, it reboots :D
[13:20] <Milencho> anyone using wifi dongle with 8812AU chipset?
[13:20] <Milencho> i have some troubles with setup
[13:20] <lotuspsychje> realtek Milencho ?
[13:20] <Milencho> lotuspsychje, yup according to lsusb -v
[13:21] <Milencho> RTL8812AU tp-link tu4 v1
[13:21] <lotuspsychje> Milencho: on kernel 5.8?
[13:21] <Milencho> yup kernel <IP_ADDRESS>
[13:21] <Milencho> i've installed the drivers with dkms from official repository
[13:21] <lotuspsychje> Milencho: realtek has always been kernel sensitive
[13:22] <lotuspsychje> jeremy31: got any idea for Milencho ^
[13:22] <Milencho> i've installed rtl8812au-dkms_<IP_ADDRESS>75.20140902+dfsg-0ubuntu13_all.deb
[13:22] <Milencho> but card is still not avaible
[13:23] <lotuspsychje> Milencho: you default iso didnt pickup your wifi?
[13:23] <Milencho> what u mean with default iso
[13:23] <Milencho> i've installed the package, rebooted and nothing
[13:23] <lotuspsychje> Milencho: i mean while you installed ubuntu
[13:23] <Milencho> it's not loaded the module or i don't know but with ifconfig i don't see the card
[13:25] <Milencho> https://pastebin.com/Cxkd0Q9t
[13:25] <lotuspsychje> Milencho: do you still have older kernel versions in your list?
[13:25] <Milencho> guess i
[13:26] <Milencho> i didin't delete them
[13:26] <lotuspsychje> Milencho: can you try to boot one, see if an older kernel picks up your module?
[13:26] <Milencho> i can but not at this moment because i'm at work :-D
[13:27] <Milencho> it was working with some of the old kernels not sure which one
[13:27] <Milencho> because i didin't use the dongle last 2 weeks
[13:27] <lotuspsychje> ah, thats what i wanted to know Milencho
[13:27] <Milencho> but it was working not with this default pakacge, i've tried something from "google" with some repo from github
[13:28] <lotuspsychje> Milencho: so we need to find the recent bugs on the kernel
[13:28] <Milencho> but 're right this RTL shits... are always problematics
[13:28] <Milencho> i'll buy something with Atheros....
[13:28] <lotuspsychje> Milencho: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bugs?orderby=importance&start=0
[13:28] <lotuspsychje> browse here for the latest filed bugs
[13:30] <Milencho> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1914874
[13:31] <Milencho> something like that but not sure
[13:31] <lotuspsychje> lets c
[13:33] <lotuspsychje> Milencho: thats a Wi-Fi 6 AX200
[13:33] <lotuspsychje> needs to be your wifi chipset specific
[13:34] <Milencho> lotuspsychje, https://github.com/aircrack-ng/rtl8812au/issues/658
[13:41] <Milencho> lotuspsychje, rtl8812au, <IP_ADDRESS>75.20140902+dfsg, 5.8.0-43-generic, x86_64: installed
[13:41] <Milencho> everything looks good with the driver and dkms/headers
[13:42] <Milencho> so may be it's time to buy atheros chipset wifi dongle :)
[13:43] <vincenzoml> cbreak, but if I do that as you suggest, won't I loose my uptime? :D
[13:45] <BluesKaj> if it's loose you'd better tighten it, otherwise you'll lose it :-)
[13:48] <cbreak> vincenzoml: oh, yes... and maybe more :P
[13:51] <vincenzoml> anyway, it's the terminal in vscode, that uses a "remote connection", that does not change groups. What sorcery is this
[13:51] <vincenzoml> that "remote connection" creates a server on the remote machine via ssh, for those who don't know, and care.
[13:52] <Milencho> lotuspsychje, its working now
[13:52] <vincenzoml> cbreak, thanks, I can now run docker. Will follow the rest that you wrote above.
[13:57] <Lvl4Sword> What's the best way to get the status of the screensaver/lockscreen in 20.04? Doesn't seem like any *-screensaver-command is installed by default
[13:58] <rockdarko> I was troubleshooting a problem with mail until I tried the same on centos/arch with no problem. Basically, the mail/mailx packages from mailutils have slightly changed (ie -A instead of -a for attachement -a is now append header). Problem is mail delivery works but when I include an attachment although it gets there fine I lose the body. I can't find anything about that.
[13:58] <rockdarko> in both cases mail delivery occurs successfully - I get the body just fine if I remove the attachment
[13:58] <rockdarko> and postfix doesnt complain of no body (with the "hope thats ok" line) - so it really feels like a bug to me
[14:26] <lotuspsychje> Milencho: how did you solve?
[14:26] <Milencho> i've installed drivers from let me check but github aircrack....
[14:27] <Milencho> offcial repository "for hackers"
[14:27] <Milencho> make;make install; reboot and miracle it works
[14:27] <Milencho> don't ask me why :-D
[14:28] <Koopz> what's the difference between mount -t cifs and mount.cifs ?
[14:28] <Koopz> and why does mount.cifs work while mount -t cifs doesn't
[14:29] <Koopz> no never mind
[14:29] <skywalk> anyone can tell me why my ubuntu server crash and my ssd start 'beeping' or making electricity noise following this ? Feb 10 00:51:13 thoth kernel: [57595.733798] md: data-check of RAID array md1 every day
[14:30] <Koopz> apparently i can't use a credential file in 20.04 anymore
[14:33] <cjoke> What do I have to do if I want to login to my googleaccount on firefox/chrome/chromium without need to authenticate/type password ?
[14:37] <aiena> skywalk: mught be some hardware failure
[14:37] <aiena> Can you check if you ssd is readable on another system
[14:37] <aiena> if the drive is damamged ubuntu cannot boot
[14:37] <aiena> *damaged
[14:38] <aiena> you could try connecting your ssd to a different SATA port on your motherboard
[14:39] <aiena> cjoke: i think you can save a password in all those browsers
[14:40] <aiena> i dont use that feature also it usually remains logged in too unless you clear browser data
[14:40] <aiena> if you mean you want to login without a password that is not possible if you forgot your pasword you may reset it from your backup email and then set it again
[14:49] <cjoke> aiena: well, I have this 2 factor/way auth activated on googleaccount, and I can get 1 generated password that I login with my app, once. then It should not ask anymore. I tried now in firefox and use lockwise, but it seems like google redirect and then that url I passed into lockwise is not usefull anymore. hmmm... It's just so sad, have to type password for everything while already logged into a
[14:49] <cjoke> usersession.
[14:49] <cjoke> aiena: thanks for reply, ill look further.
[14:49] <aiena> ah disable 2 factor auth then
[14:50] <aiena> 2 factor auth is added security on purpose
[14:50] <cjoke> aiena: what do you mean ?
[14:50] <cjoke> its not safe?
[14:50] <cjoke> just bloating thing up ?
[14:50] <aiena> i mean 2 factor auth is a password + phone pin/hardware key etc.
[14:51] <aiena> so you need both for authorisation everytime
[14:51] <Koopz> oooh man
[14:51] <aiena> if you only use a password then google can use it across services
[14:51] <Koopz> the credentials file had CRLF line endings
[14:51] <cjoke> aiena: no, your wrong. I dont need, since i generated a uniq code from my googlesettings.
[14:52] <cjoke> that i put into my "app" once. for not need to auth anymore while using this on my device/computer
[14:52] <Koopz> this kept me up for hours
[14:52] <aiena> cjoke: anyway ask google its not an ubuntu problem :) their forums will likely help you.
[14:53] <cjoke> aiena: thats what I thought, again, thanks for reply :)
[14:53] <aiena> most welcome.
[14:55] <SteelRose> hi all! I just installed 20.04 LTS on a laptop and I can install new stuff with apt and snap. So far, so good. When I click on the "A" for Ubuntu Software it tries to run but it dies a few seconds afterwards without showing any error... is that normal? Thanks!
[14:56] <aiena> cjoke: just be careful when using these things to not lock yourself out totally e.g. stolen phone/damaged phone/broken app see if google has a contingency plan for sthose situations too.
[14:57] <aiena> SteelRose: did not foolw what do you mean by When I click on the "A" for Ubuntu Software
[14:57] <aiena> SteelRose: I am actually on kubuntu now but will fire up an ubuntu 20.04 vm to try to understand your issue
[14:58] <SteelRose> aiena: thanks
[14:58] <skywalk> aiena: well the server is up and running right now, but when I went downstair, I hear a beep beep beep coming from the ssd, there's no speaker on a ssd, so not sure, but looks to be either a mechanical noise, or some sort of circuit noise? and its been doing this every day at the same time
[14:58] <SteelRose> Ubuntu 20.04 runs Unity as WM. KDE is totally different...
[14:59] <SteelRose> aiena: I'm talking about the graphical software manager
[14:59] <aiena> SteelRose: it does not matter and no ubuntu 20.04 does not use unity
[14:59] <aiena> afaik ubuntu 20.04 uses gnome directly
[14:59] <aiena> i think ubuntu dropped unity in ubuntu 14
[15:00] <aiena> it does not matter as I said I have booted an ubuntu 20.04 vm
[15:00] <SteelRose> aiena: you're right... GNOME...
[15:00] <aiena> so that is using whatever comed with ubuntu
[15:00] <leftyfb> skywalk: sounds like a hardware issue with your SSD
[15:01] <aiena> so since my ubunutu vm runnning in  kvm is ubuntu not kubunutu can you describe your problem so i can tell you if it is normal or not
[15:02] <SteelRose> aiena: if you have not modified the default bar on the left hand-side there are a few icons. One of them looks like an "A" and it launches the Software Manager ... in my case, it is not the case...
[15:02] <aiena> SteelRose: ok I am launching the software centre on my VM tot est
[15:02] <aiena> VM to test
[15:03] <aiena> it is downloading a software catalogue now but I see a window for me SteelRose
[15:03] <skywalk> leftyfb: well ssd is up and running perfect, but for the server to crash at the same time every day, that isnt a hardware issue
[15:04] <SteelRose> aiena: thanks mate! it seems like there is a problem on my end
[15:05] <aiena> SteelRose: yup no crashes for me in my vm
[15:05] <aiena> my vm is brand new so its practically unmodified only ubuntu repos on it
[15:05] <aiena> wanted to figure out some gnome DE stuff to help others
[15:06] <aiena> SteelRose: it may just be corrupted configs
[15:06] <SteelRose> aiena: it's a brand-new install ...
[15:07] <aiena> SteelRose: when you were installing did you choose to update the system during setup
[15:08] <aiena> mine is a brand new vm install too I cannot reproduce it so we need to do some troubleshooting with your help
[15:08] <aiena> on your system
[15:11] <SteelRose> aiena: yes, I did
[15:12] <aiena> SteelRose: I usually avoid that bit and update the system in one shot after install just give me a moment I am a bit old school on ubuntu so just tinkering around in my vm so i can see how to help you
[15:13] <aiena> as in been using kde for a while i use gnoe at work but i do everything from command line so never ever used the software centre
[15:14] <SteelRose> aiena: I'm rather new on Ubuntu but fear not...
[15:15] <aiena> i am never afraid :) I have used several linux distros so my experience is a combo of all of them only few things change from one to another.
[15:15] <aiena> the cli is stable across all mostly so I've unfortunately got used to doing all system admin there
[15:18] <pavlos> skywalk: if you hear more than one beep, there is a hardware issue, the bios is complaining
[15:21] <SteelRose> aiena: no worries... I will reinstall and will skip the "online updates" during the process as suggested... let's see if this improves anything ...
[15:21] <aiena> SteelRose: nah
[15:22] <aiena> its most likely something trivial
[15:22] <aiena> can you open up a terminal
[15:22] <aiena> and then type "sudo su" and press enter
[15:23] <aiena> it will ask for a password enter your current users password if it succeeds the terminal shell windows sign should change to a "#" tell me when you got there
[15:23] <jwhitmore> Building kicad from source and failing to find one of OCEConfig.cmake  or  oce-config.cmake   can't find out which package either is in? Anyone got any idea how to find out?
[15:23] <SteelRose> aiena: done
[15:24] <aiena> run the command "apt update" there tell me when it finishes or if you see any errors there
[15:24] <SteelRose> aiena: all OK
[15:25] <aiena> jwhitmore: install liboce-foundation-dev and try again
[15:25] <aiena> SteelRose: can you show me the output
[15:25] <aiena> !paste
[15:27] <SteelRose> aiena: "All packages are up to date"
[15:27] <DaCheat> X related question -- I have a usb external monitor that makes the rest of my X session perform terribly. I want to run said monitor on it's own X session, whats the best way to do this?
[15:27] <SteelRose> aiena: don't worry mate... I will reinstall or perhaps choose Kubuntu instead. I too use KDE
[15:28] <aiena> ok I was just having fun poking around on ubuntu 20.04
[15:28] <aiena> seems like the ubuntu software centre is actually a "snap" package
[15:28] <aiena> lolz
[15:28] <SteelRose> aiena: hmm... let me check that
[15:29] <aiena> yup
[15:29] <aiena> if I run snap-store.ubuntu-software from terminal the software centre opens up
[15:30] <SteelRose> aiena: snap-store dumps a core when I run it from the shell ... huh
[15:30] <aiena> but this meaans there is no terminal output
[15:32] <akkonrad> my slack icon took over the chrome icon in launcher (ubuntu 20.10), it was working fine before, maybe update broken it?
[15:36] <aiena> SteelRose: you could try installing the whole system again like i suggested but this is very funny your issue
[15:36] <aiena> i am afk for dinner bbl
[15:46] <SteelRose> aiena: I'm downloading Kubuntu now
[15:54] <yoasif> any idea on how i can get this bug looked at? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1907318
[15:57] <SteelRose> aiena: https://askubuntu.com/questions/1231932/ubuntu-software-doesnt-open-in-ubuntu-20-04 <-- this solved my issue.
[15:58] <SteelRose> TL;DR: I removed and reinstalled the snap-store package
[15:58] <SteelRose> aiena: thanks for your assistance anyway
[16:00] <coconut> Anyone success with the fingerprint reader on a thinkpad x1 extreme?
[16:02] <oerheks> coconut, is it in the Fprint device list?
[16:03] <oerheks> https://fprint.freedesktop.org/supported-devices.html and https://launchpad.net/~fingerprint/+archive/ubuntu/fingerprint-gui
[16:10] <leftyfb> skywalk: if your SSD was running perfect, it wouldn't be emitting noises and yes, a bad SSD could very well lead to the server crashing at the same time every day due to multiple factors
[16:34] <coconut> oh, i do get it to work. Thanks anyway oerheks!
[17:11] <Celsiuss> hi, i am trying to set up an ubuntu vm, during the installation I could easily set a static ip for this vm, then it bootet and I installed docker, when I did a reboot after that, the network did not work
[17:11] <Celsiuss> So I read this page under the section "Configuring an interface" https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NetworkConfigurationCommandLine/Automatic
[17:12] <Celsiuss> the ip commands worked as expected, however when making the changes in /etc/network/interfaces, the network is still broken after a reboot
[17:15] <aiena> Celsiuss: hang around i'm not so good with network stuff and vm's add another layer of trouble
[17:15] <aiena> docker is virtualisation inside virtualisation
[17:16] <Celsiuss> yeah true lol
[17:17] <Celsiuss> and also here is how my /etc/network/interfaces looks like https://i.imgur.com/RMfGKht.png
[17:23] <leftyfb> Celsiuss: what version of ubuntu? The 2 latest LTS releases do not use /etc/network/interfaces by default
[17:25] <Celsiuss> leftyfb: it's 20.04, what should I use instead?
[17:25] <leftyfb> Celsiuss: https://ubuntu.com/blog/ubuntu-bionic-netplan
[17:26] <Celsiuss> ahh great, thanks leftyfb , will take a look :)
[17:49] <Lvl4Sword> Re-asking in cause someone knows: What's the best way to get the status of the screensaver/lockscreen in 20.04? Doesn't seem like any *-screensaver-command is installed by default
[17:58] <nolan_> Hey, guys... I had a quick (dumb) question for anyone that knew the terminology or how to accomplish it... I've done it before in the past, but I forget how to do it or what it was called... Somehow, I need to connect to a machine via SSH and while I'm connected to it, my IP changes from my local WAN IP here at my house... to the WAN IP of the machine that I'm connected to via SSH...
[17:59] <leftyfb> nolan_: you mean you want to create an ssh proxy?
[17:59] <nolan_> Yes, that's it...
[18:00] <leftyfb> nolan_: https://www.redhat.com/sysadmin/ssh-proxy-bastion-proxyjump
[18:00] <nolan_> SSH Proxy, to where when I am connected by SSH ... I can open a browser here on ny local network and that browser uses that other machines IP
[18:00] <nolan_> Thank you
[18:00] <leftyfb> oh wait, that's not it
[18:00] <nolan_> oh...
[18:00] <nolan_> Is it a VPN?
[18:00] <nolan_> Tunnelling?
[18:01] <nolan_> I've done it before in the past for my Dad's business... but I can't remember how I had my configuration setup
[18:01] <rory> nolan_, ssh -L local_port:remote_address:remote_port<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[18:01] <leftyfb> nolan_: https://www.howtogeek.com/168145/how-to-use-ssh-tunneling/  go to the "Dynamic Port Forwarding: Use Your SSH Server as a Proxy"
[18:01] <nolan_> Thank both of you guys...
[18:02] <rory> nolan_, eg: ssh -L 8080:<IP_ADDRESS>:22<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[18:03] <rory> nolan_, you can set up a SOCKS proxy too, that's probably what you used actually https://ma.ttias.be/socks-proxy-linux-ssh-bypass-content-filters/
[18:04] <leftyfb> rory: you know I already linked to instructions right?
[18:04] <nolan_> I'm trying to just open a regular nothing special web browser so I can use it to get a browser GUI installation screen... so that would just be either ssh -L 443:<IP_ADDRESS>:22<EMAIL_ADDRESS>....?
[18:04] <nolan_> Yes, I got them.. thank you.
[18:04] <nolan_> either 443 or 80:localhost username... etc, etc... right?
[18:05] <leftyfb> nolan_: your browser will need to be configured with your local dynamic proxy as stated in both sets of instructions
[18:05] <nolan_> Ah, I forgot that step as well..
[18:05] <leftyfb> nolan_: unless you only need to access a single URL from this remote location, then you don't need dynamic
[18:05] <nolan_> We did have to do that.. We always used Firefox in that situation
[18:05] <nolan_> Okay.. yeah, I just need a specific nonchanging URL to start the installation process.
[18:06] <nolan_> and I don't really want to tack on an entire Xserver session ontop of the OS install JUST to browse the web ONE time.
[18:06] <nolan_> I guess I could, at least... but I don't really want to..
[18:06] <TJ-> nolan_: this visual guide can be useful in figuring out what you need  https://robotmoon.com/ssh-tunnels/
[18:06] <nolan_> Thanks, @TJ
[18:07] <leftyfb> nolan_: what is it exactly you're trying to setup through this tunnel?
[18:07] <nolan_> HumHub
[18:07] <nolan_> https://www.humhub.com/
[18:16] <Annoyed> Greetings. New install of 20.04.2 server. Trying to set up an additional network interface for the inside network. the installer-created /etc/netplan/00-installer-config.yaml file works ok for the outside interface, (enp3s0) which is DHCP from the ISP. I'm trying to change the inside interface (enp5s0) from dhcp to static, but "try" throws errors, but won't tell me what... any good examples of this or any ideas?
[18:17] <leftyfb> Annoyed: https://ubuntu.com/blog/ubuntu-bionic-netplan
[18:22] <Annoyed> leftyfb, that's pretty close to what I have, except I'm not specifying gateway or nameserver for the inside interface, it doesn't need them.. other machines on the network use this as their uplink, and that is handed out via dhcp
[18:24] <Annoyed> https://pastebin.com/qYeNJpTq
[18:25] <Annoyed> I had this setup working under 18.04, but was using two *.yaml files. Since the new one referred to enp5s0, I thought I could do it in one file
[18:33] <Annoyed> Do you have to have a yaml file for each interface?
[18:43] <leftyfb> Annoyed: you ca n do either
[18:43] <leftyfb> Annoyed: care to pastebin your yaml file?
[18:44] <Annoyed> https://pastebin.com/qYeNJpTq
[18:44] <Annoyed> That was the last single file attempt.
[18:45] <Annoyed> I ran debug try with both files and it worked
[18:45] <Lvl4Sword> For my question earlier ( getting status of the lockscreen/screensaver in Ubuntu 20.04 ) here's how I did it ... dbus-send --session --dest=org.gnome.ScreenSaver --type=method_call --print-reply --reply-timeout=1000 /org/gnome/ScreenSaver org.gnome.ScreenSaver.GetActive
[18:45] <Lvl4Sword> In case anyone else also needs that ^
[18:45] <Annoyed> Going to try what debug merged next... if that fails, I'll just use two files.
[18:49] <leftyfb> Annoyed: try https://pastebin.ubuntu.com/p/zdRqQJb9ZQ/
[18:52] <Annoyed> Ok, this is too weird. netplan --debug try generated a single file config, which I put in a single file and it worked. but it's very close to what I had. Will PB in a min
[18:54] <leftyfb> what was different?
[18:54] <leftyfb> Annoyed: run a diff on them
[18:58] <Annoyed> https://pastebin.ubuntu.com/p/Tc9FWyDknm/
[18:59] <leftyfb> looks a lot like the one I made for you
[19:00] <Annoyed> Only difference I see was the way the address was specified. But the [<IP_ADDRESS>/24] syntax worked in the 18.04 install.. And I had tried the - <IP_ADDRESS>/20 syntax
[19:01] <Annoyed> I was in the middle of trying the debug generated config when you made your suggestion.
[19:02] <Annoyed> But yeah, they're close. just for the hallibut..... let me try ours
[19:02] <Annoyed> yours
[19:05] <Annoyed> Doesn't like yours, either. ERROR:Error while loading /etc/netplan/test2.yaml, aborting.
[19:05] <jwhitmore> Hello all, trying to install kicad from source and build process is looking for OCEConfig.cmake or oce-config.make  Can't find a package on Ubuntu for that. I believe the RedHat package is occt-devel. Is there any way to find an equivalent package on Ubuntu?
[19:05] <leftyfb> Annoyed: possibly an indentation issue
[19:06] <jayjo-> when pushing to an ubuntu PPA, is there a way to use a non-release, like experimental, or do all packages have to explicitly mention hirsuite, groovy, focal, etc?
[19:07] <Annoyed> yeah, maybe.  :D
[19:07] <Annoyed> Or even better... what was wrong with the old school "interfaces" ?
[19:07] <leftyfb> jwhitmore: kicad is up to version 5.1.5 in Ubuntu. Are you sure you need to compile it? ( those files do not exist in ubuntu)
[19:08] <leftyfb> Annoyed: yaml format is more easily managed but is more restrictive in formatting
[19:08] <Annoyed> Oh, well, at least I got something that works. Thanks for your help.
[19:08] <jwhitmore> leftyfb, yes unfortunately I need master :(
[19:09] <Annoyed> leftyfb: Don't you mean mangled?
[19:09] <leftyfb> jwhitmore: you'll need to reach out to the kicad project for support then. Your issue is with their code, not ubuntu
[19:09] <jwhitmore> leftyfb, cheers for your help!
[19:09] <jwhitmore> leftyfb, and thanks for taking the time
[19:18] <Annoyed> Thanks again.....
[19:33] <aiena> jwhitmore: actually just install liboce-foundation-dev
[19:33] <aiena> and try again
[20:12] <uDdHsaWwk> I have to install ubuntu, but I have no usb sticks atm nad only blank cd-r's (normally I always use usb sticks) - even the server image is nearly 1 GB, any suggestions what to do here?
[20:13] <The_LoudSpeaker> https://askubuntu.com/questions/1294755/acpi-bios-error-bug-black-screen
[20:13] <The_LoudSpeaker> can anyone help me with this. have same error on a lenovo laptop.
[20:13] <uDdHsaWwk> is there a minimal.iso ?! can't find it https://ftp.halifax.rwth-aachen.de/ubuntu-releases/
[20:14] <oerheks> one solution, the mini iso ... https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD
[20:14] <oerheks> http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/bionic/main/installer-amd64/current/images/netboot/mini.iso
[20:14] <uDdHsaWwk> The_LoudSpeaker: have a look here https://askubuntu.com/questions/1258641/after-grub-appears-i-see-acpi-bios-error-messages-before-ubuntu-20-04-starts-nor
[20:14] <uDdHsaWwk> The_LoudSpeaker: as a pointer google the error message in conjunction with grub (which is the boot system)
[20:17] <uDdHsaWwk> oerheks: bionic is 18.04 ?!
[20:17] <uDdHsaWwk> or what am I missing here?
[20:17] <oerheks> yes, i see no 20.04, or i must be mistaken
[20:17] <uDdHsaWwk> 20.10 is what I would want, but I can't find it either
[20:18] <uDdHsaWwk> I think it always was kind of "hidden" somewhere, but it seems to simply not be there
[20:18] <oerheks> install 18.04, and do a releaseupgrade after that?
[20:18] <uDdHsaWwk> would probably work in theory
[20:19] <uDdHsaWwk> stupid workaround though
[20:19] <uDdHsaWwk> oerheks: thanks though
[20:19] <The_LoudSpeaker> uDdHsaWwk: I googled it in conjunction with ubuntu.
[20:20] <leftyfb> uDdHsaWwk: you can usually find usb flash drives at local convenient stores and gas stations. Obviously at big box stores as well
[20:20] <The_LoudSpeaker> also, i don't have nvidia so blacklisting it won't help ig. (re: the link you sent)
[20:20] <uDdHsaWwk> The_LoudSpeaker: I remember having boot up issues, mostly they were related to grub
[20:21] <sarnold> uDdHsaWwk: this was written before 20.04 was released but it's probably still mostly right https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/netbooting-the-live-server-installer/14510
[20:21] <uDdHsaWwk> The_LoudSpeaker: there's a shortcut on bootup screen to edit boot options, you will have to look there ; sorry I don't know how to help further, but I thought pointing you towards that direction might nevertheless help :)
[20:22] <uDdHsaWwk> sarnold: maybe I don't know what netbooting is? but I am not sure how that helps
[20:22] <The_LoudSpeaker> uDdHsaWwk: it's okay. :)
[20:22] <The_LoudSpeaker> i will try disabling acpi once.
[20:23] <sarnold> uDdHsaWwk: many nics know how to retrieve enough OS from somewhere else to let you install without any media
[20:23] <uDdHsaWwk> sarnold: leftyfb: oerheks: thank you guys, I found a really scratched up blank dvd-r...
[20:23] <uDdHsaWwk> maybe...
[20:23] <oerheks> have fun!
[20:32] <The_LoudSpeaker> i think I don't need acpioff btw. guess the errors went away after a apt upgrade.
[20:33] <uDdHsaWwk> The_LoudSpeaker: solved? :)
[20:34] <The_LoudSpeaker> i think so yes. the friend who had this issue pinged saying the errors are not there on a reboot after apt upgrade.
[20:35] <uDdHsaWwk> The_LoudSpeaker: nice
[20:36] <uDdHsaWwk> enjoy, say you fixed it remotely and cash in $$$ :P
[20:36] <uDdHsaWwk> some leet hacker skills right there
[21:30] <The_LoudSpeaker> XD
[21:30] <The_LoudSpeaker> turns out he had interrupted dpkg in middle of some updates.
[21:30] <The_LoudSpeaker> so a dpkg-reconfigure -a and apt upgrade fixed it.
[21:30] <The_LoudSpeaker> and no I only accept payments in coffee.
[21:31] <The_LoudSpeaker> Feel free to send over a mug full of coffee anytime. :)
[21:41] <UbuntuInstallPar> Hello everyone! I have a problem with installing the latest Ubuntu on an Asus laptop (with nvidia graphics). Unfortunately my installation stalls when it arrives at the partition choice for some reason, and I don't know how I can fix that, any help is greatly appreciated!
[21:42] <Doct> Hi I'm trying to write a glob expression to match all files, except those in a specific directory. I;m not having any luck finding answers online or trying expressions myself
[21:42] <Doct> My attempt is !(/dir_to_exclude/**)
[21:43] <UbuntuInstallPar> (I used 3 different USBs, decided to install xubuntu instead, but nothing: this is the screen when it hangs: share riseup net/#J5ayj6mubkuNXzzSWOqcKw )
[21:56] <leftyfb> Doct: try #bash
[21:56] <Doct> Thanks
[22:18] <oerheks> UbuntuInstallPar, see the !nomodeset option
[22:19] <oerheks> !nomodeset
[22:19] <oerheks> else state your hardware and nvidia card, see if there are simular issues
[22:21] <UbuntuInstallPar> oerheks ubottu thanks i will try that!
[23:05] <octav1a> How can I enable focal repos on groovy?
[23:06] <jeremy31> octav1a: That is almost certain to cause serious issues
[23:07] <octav1a> okay, how may I install 5.4 kernels in place of 5.8 on groovy?
[23:08] <sarnold> what problem are you trying to solve?
[23:08] <octav1a> compilation of AMD opencl drivers
[23:10] <octav1a> (build will fail with 5.8 kernel, but works with 5.4)
[23:11] <sarnold> they haven't updated yet?
[23:11] <octav1a> apparently not
[23:12] <ekkis> is snap the recommended way to install stuff now?
[23:12] <ekkis> and if so, how can I examine the contents of a package? specifically I need to know whether the package provides any mechanism for auto-startup... like a script for /etc/init.d or something


[05:03] <designated> do juju charms have a way to bond network interfaces?
[07:45] <hsawhney1234> Hi I am trying to run a juju charm on my private openstack cloud but I get the following error
[07:46] <hsawhney1234> cannot start bootstrap instance: cannot allocate a public IP as needed: failed to allocate a floating ip
[07:46] <hsawhney1234> any idea what I need to do.
[07:46] <hsawhney1234> ?
[07:47] <hsawhney1234> the error returned is
[07:47] <hsawhney1234> cannot start bootstrap instance: cannot allocate a public IP as needed: failed to allocate a floating ip
[07:47] <hsawhney1234> returned unexpected status: 404; error info: {"itemNotFound": {"message": "FloatingIpPoolNotFound: Floating ip pool not found.", "code": 404}}
[10:26] <bloodearnest> marcoceppi: am i right in understanding that there's no way to fake/double relations with amulet? i.e. if you have a mongodb relation, you have to deploy mongodb and relate to your charm in order the the sentries to be able to inspect relations?
[10:35] <marcoceppi> bloodearnest: at the moment, yes, you have to deploy mongodb
[10:35] <bloodearnest> marcoceppi: kk, thanks
[14:32] <rbasak> fwereade: a bit late, sorry, but I just remembered that I was supposed to poke you about a 1.18 release (or somebody, anyway). I think James asked about this last week. Do we have a schedule?
[14:32] <fwereade> rbasak, hmm, not sure about another 1.18, what did you need for that?
[14:33] <rbasak> fwereade: Utopic needs the latest commits to work, and we need to upload that to push those fixes back to Trusty.
[14:34] <fwereade> rbasak, ok, would you raise that on the call please? nate is there and should be able to handle the tech side
[14:35]  * fwereade dashes
[14:35] <rbasak> Will do. Thanks!
[15:03] <bloodearnest> marcoceppi: having issues using amulet to deploy local charms
[15:06] <bloodearnest> marcoceppi: aaaand now it works. ignore me, sorry for the noise
[15:19] <bloodearnest> marcoceppi: ah, no, I am getting failures. Am doing d.add('name', '/path/to/charm') but deployer is giving me this error
[15:19] <bloodearnest> AttributeError: 'NoneType' object has no attribute 'branch'
[16:17] <arosales> tvansteenburgh: have you seen bloodearnest's issue in latest amulet?
[16:18]  * tvansteenburgh reads
[16:18] <tvansteenburgh> bloodearnest what version of amulet?
[16:19] <bloodearnest> tvansteenbur.5.0-0ubuntu1~ubuntu14.04.1~ppa1gh:
[16:19] <bloodearnest> bah
[16:19] <bloodearnest> tvansteenburgh: 1.5.0-0ubuntu1~ubuntu14.04.1~ppa1
[16:20] <bloodearnest> tvansteenburgh: I am trying to deploy 3 local charms (they are not public charms)
[16:20] <tvansteenburgh> bloodearnest your bug is fixed in the 1.5.1 milestone: https://launchpad.net/amulet/+milestone/1.5.1
[16:20] <bloodearnest> tvansteenburgh: right, will it hit the ppa anytime soon?
[16:21] <tvansteenburgh> sorry, only marcoceppi can answer that. i only fix the bugs, he releases :)
[16:22] <bloodearnest> tvansteenburgh: I will try with the 1.5.1 tag from github, thanks!
[16:22] <arosales> tvansteenburgh: thanks for the answer. bloodearnest when marcoceppi returns he should be able to answer on date of next release
[16:24] <bloodearnest> tvansteenburgh: hmm, my charm is in version control, fwiw, bzr
[16:24] <bloodearnest> ah, but some of the others are not yet
[16:27] <bloodearnest> arosales: thanks for the prod :)
[16:33] <bloodearnest> tvansteenburgh: fyi, that gets me further, but then I get this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7545136/
[16:33] <Marek1211> how do I know which charms should be related to wchich ones..? In the GUI it gives me suggestion which charms I CAN link to which so should I just make as many links as I can? Its openstack deployment.
[16:35] <tvansteenburgh> bloodearnest: looking
[16:37] <lazyPower> Marek1211: there's a bundle that will give you the deployment map of a simple openstack cluster, 1 moment while i fish that up
[16:37] <lazyPower>  bundle:~makyo/openstack/2/openstack
[16:38] <lazyPower> or: https://jujucharms.com/sidebar/search/bundle/~makyo/openstack/2/openstack/?text=openstack
[16:39] <tvansteenburgh> bloodearnest: humor me and try deleting /tmp/charm_pf_xiam/ and try again
[16:40] <bloodearnest> tvansteenburgh: doing that, but I got it a few times
[16:40] <bloodearnest> with different tmp dirs
[16:41] <tvansteenburgh> bloodearnest: ok, then i'll need to repro and fix
[16:41] <bloodearnest> am  digging in to it
[16:41] <tvansteenburgh> bloodearnest: cool, thanks
[16:43] <Marek1211> thank lazyPower I have already deployed my environment and looks like on the pic in the link. I made as many relations as possible but was wondering if this is the right way to do it...
[16:43] <Marek1211> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/105701583/juju.PNG
[16:46] <lazyPower> i dont see anything inherently wrong with that... but i'm not an authority on teh openstack deployments
[16:47] <tvansteenburgh> bloodearnest: i think i found the problem
[16:48] <tvansteenburgh> bloodearnest: if you're running from source now, try changing this line: https://github.com/tvansteenburgh/amulet/blob/master/amulet/charm.py#L135
[16:48] <tvansteenburgh> to:
[16:48] <tvansteenburgh> temp_charm_dir = os.path.join(d, os.path.basename(os.path.dirname(path)))
[16:50] <bloodearnest> tvansteenburgh: trying it now
[16:53] <bloodearnest> tvansteenburgh: hmm. so now I'm getting the orginal error again
[16:56] <tvansteenburgh> bloodearnest: weird, didn't expect that
[16:57] <bloodearnest> yep, is odd
[16:58] <bloodearnest> tvansteenburgh: I gotta eod, will dig some more tomorrow
[17:45] <Marek1211> Is it possible to Autoscale with Juju ?
[18:06] <natefinch> Marek1211: not automatically, no
[18:08] <natefinch> Marek1211: it's something we'd like to support eventually, but it's a tricky problem, mostly around knowing when you *need* to scale up/down.
[19:32] <Marek1211> Okay, thanks :) doing a school project on juju+openstack, wanted to make sure, thanks!
[19:34] <sebas5384> natefinch: landscape don't integrate with juju charms to scale?
[19:37] <natefinch> sebas5384: nope
[19:37] <sebas5384> damn
[19:37] <natefinch> sebas5384: there's no integration between landscape and Juju
[19:37] <sebas5384> hehe
[19:38] <sebas5384> would be nice to have... :)
[20:04] <AskUbuntu> How can build relation between Rabbitmq-Server (as buffer for request interface) for my owm locla charm( process the requests) | http://askubuntu.com/q/474097
[21:01] <sebas538_> what must be done to have more than on local environment running at the sametime?
[21:01] <sebas538_> i already changed the storage-port
[21:02] <sebas538_> but i'm geting "ERROR cannot use 37017 as state port, already in use"
[21:50] <designated> is anyone aware of juju charms for openstack services that would support multiple interfaces as well as bonded network interfaces with vlan tagging?
[22:30] <AskUbuntu> Ubuntu MAAS Setup - Newbie - adding nodes | http://askubuntu.com/q/474140
[22:57] <steinm> Anyone know how I can use the constraints to define the size of the root-disk foe EC2?
[22:57] <steinm> For what I understand the following should be possible also for EC2 "juju deploy --constraints "root-disk=16384M" mysql", but I get a '(error: no instance types in us-east-1 matching constraints "cpu-power=100 root-disk=16384M")'
[22:57] <steinm> Any suggestions ?


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[15:09] <bluesabre> If anybody is available for some testing on the 21.10 final, please take some time to do so. I’m not available for testing until probably late late tonight.


[00:35] <Nik__> Hi, is it ok to ask a question?
[00:40] <paultag> yes?
[00:40] <paultag> Oh he left
[00:40] <paultag> dang.
[04:02] <locodir-user> hola
[04:03] <cjohnston> hi
[06:36] <YoBoY> good morning
[08:52] <dholbach> good morning
[10:39] <megaribi> Hello
[10:42] <megaribi> Can someone help me?
[10:45] <YoBoY> hi megaribi, what is your question ?
[10:46] <megaribi> We want to organize release party in Bosnia scheduled at 27.04.2011, but we haev two problems:
[10:47] <megaribi> 1) LoCo Bosnia and Herzegovina is not registered, so I can not put this anouncment
[10:47] <megaribi> 2) It seems that there will be no 11.04 RC, so could I rely on daily build?
[10:51] <YoBoY> hum... for the first point, you can always ask to add your locoteam https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-ba on the Ubuntu Local community team on launchpad (https://launchpad.net/~locoteams) for that just write to the loco council (see here : http://loco.ubuntu.com/loco-council/ )
[10:52] <YoBoY> when this is done, you can appear on the loco.ubuntu.com website and add events (don't know if you need to be approved...)
[10:54] <YoBoY> for the second point, having a release party before the real release is always more difficult, you can use the last beta if there is no other pre-release
[10:55] <czajkowski> you dont need to be an approved team to appear on the LD
[10:55] <czajkowski> but usually people have the release party on or after the date
[10:55] <czajkowski> not before as well ... it's not released :)
[10:55] <YoBoY> (and to add events ?)
[10:59] <czajkowski> all events can be added to a team when they are on there
[11:00] <megaribi> thanks for infos
[12:11] <cjohnston> mornin
[12:16] <robbo_> hi all!
[12:16] <cjohnston> hi
[12:17] <robbo_> I would like to attend in UDS-O, I started to fill the register form (https://forms.canonical.com/udsre), but there is a question, which I don't understand
[12:18] <cjohnston> ok..
[12:18] <robbo_> "Who is your attendance requested by? *" And there are companies. But if I am only a community member. :(
[12:19] <cjohnston> Are you sponsored?
[12:20] <robbo_> No, I'll  paying my travel (live in Hungary)
[12:20] <czajkowski> robbo_: s just put down loco community team name
[12:21] <cjohnston> I'd click other and put community or something
[12:22] <robbo_> Thanks czajkowski and cjohnston
[12:22] <cjohnston> :-)
[12:24] <robbo_> bye all
[12:46] <YoBoY> where is this form ?
[12:59] <mhall119> morning
[14:19] <Ishwon> Hi :)
[14:19] <Ishwon> Hi all :)
[14:24] <Ishwon> anybody here?
[14:28] <mhall119> yes
[14:28] <mhall119> hi Ishwon
[14:28] <Ishwon> cool...
[14:30] <Ishwon> need some info. i followed instructions from wiki.ubuntu.com to start a locoteam in Mauritius. created the team in launchpad, https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-mu.
[14:30] <Ishwon> but i can't find contacts, or links, where we can register this team officially.
[14:31] <Ishwon> can you please guide me here?
[14:32] <mhall119> !loco-council
[14:32] <ubot4> Factoid 'loco-council' not found
[14:32] <mhall119> :(
[14:33] <mhall119> czajkowski ^^
[14:33] <Ishwon> i didn't understand.
[14:33] <popey> hi Ishwon
[14:33] <mhall119> I'm trying to get the attention of someone on the loco-council
[14:33] <czajkowski> !lococouncil
[14:33] <ubot4> lococouncil is The Loco Council is itnet7, czajkowski, paultag, huats, leogg, popey - they are there to help, just ask! :) You can send them an email at<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[14:33] <Ishwon> yes popey.
[14:33] <mhall119> anybody but popey
[14:33] <popey> heh
[14:33] <czajkowski> mhall119: less of it
[14:33] <mhall119> ;)
[14:33] <Ishwon> yes popey, can you help?
[14:33] <mhall119> less blaming popey?
[14:34] <popey> Ishwon: what do you want to achieve?
[14:34] <popey> Teams dont need to be "official". You just create a team and start doing awesome stuff.
[14:34] <popey> Later on you can become "approved" which entitles you to stuff.
[14:34] <popey> But initially you dont need that.
[14:34] <mhall119> popey: I think he means, being part of ~locoteams
[14:34] <mhall119> so it'll get imported into LD and such
[14:35] <Ishwon> we're a bunch of Ubuntu enthusiasts/users, we already organized a few events. but this time, we're organizing a Linux Workshop in collaboration with University of Mauritius.
[14:35] <Ishwon> they've been nice enough to give us a conference hall that can accomodate some 500 ppl.
[14:35] <popey> mhall119: he already is
[14:36] <mhall119> oh, sweet
[14:36] <popey> "“Mauritius Ubuntu Team” is a member of these teams:
[14:36] <popey> Ubuntu Local Community Teams"
[14:36] <mhall119> Ishwon: in that case, you should fill in your team's details here: http://loco.ubuntu.com/teams/ubuntu-mu
[14:36] <Ishwon> yep, we created the Mauritius Ubuntu Team to group these ppl.
[14:36] <mhall119> you'll need to log in
[14:37] <mhall119> then you can register your events
[14:38] <Ishwon> ah...ok...doing that right now.
[14:43] <Ishwon> alright, gathering some info to post as event details.
[14:44] <Ishwon> guys, tell me something, for such events, can we get posters, banners, flyers, cds, or any other kinds of promo materials from ubuntu. i read about Conference Pack B, but seems it's discontinued.
[15:49] <paultag> what's up, saw the ping
[15:50] <daker> mhall119, is the service api documented somewhere ?
[15:50] <mhall119> paultag: Ishwon just needed help getting his new loco off the ground
[15:50] <mhall119> daker: for LD?
[15:50] <daker> yep
[15:50] <paultag> hey Ishwon
[15:50] <paultag> thanks mhall119
[15:51] <mhall119> np
[15:51] <mhall119> daker: yeah, in the wiki
[15:51] <mhall119> daker: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LoCoDirectory/API
[15:51] <daker> ah ok
[15:52] <mhall119> daker: it hasn't been updated in a while, but I don't know of any recent changes to our models either, so it should be good
[15:53] <daker> ok
[15:53] <daker> thnx
[15:54] <Ishwon> yes, paultag...
[15:54] <Ishwon> sorry was away for a while.
[15:54] <Ishwon> :)
[15:54] <paultag> no worries
[15:55] <Ishwon> any update if conference pack B is still available?
[15:56] <Ishwon> i need to give a confirmation to university of mauritius about potential sponsors by next week.
[15:56] <paultag> crud
[15:56] <paultag> Ishwon: one moment, there was a thread on this
[15:57] <Ishwon> we got sponsors for t-shirts, if we could get ubuntu posters, stickers, cds, & flyers...that wud be nice...
[15:57] <Ishwon> ok paultag.
[15:57] <paultag> Ishwon: just going through records, one moment
[15:57] <Ishwon> yep, no worries :)
[15:58] <paultag> Ishwon: https://forms.canonical.com/lococd
[15:58] <paultag> Ishwon: should be all set
[15:58] <Ishwon> checking...
[15:58] <Ishwon> "This form is restricted to certain teams. You are not a member of any of those teams. "
[15:58] <Ishwon> :(
[15:59] <paultag> Ishwon: what's your loco?
[15:59] <Ishwon> http://loco.ubuntu.com/teams/ubuntu-mu
[16:03] <paultag> Ishwon: did you access that before you were accepted into the locoteams goup?
[16:03] <Ishwon> no...
[16:03] <Ishwon> just now, when u gave me the link.
[16:04] <paultag> Ishwon: and you're nitin-sookun
[16:04] <Ishwon> yeah, that's me.
[16:07] <paultag> Ishwon: we were emailing someone from canonical just a bit ago
[16:08] <paultag> Ishwon: and by the looks of it, canonical has not finished implemting conf-packs
[16:08] <paultag> dang.
[16:08] <paultag> looks like locos are out to dry?
[16:08] <paultag> Ishwon: from the email I got: "At the moment we are still working on final touches for conference pack requests, this should be implemented this or next week.
[16:08] <paultag> "
[16:08] <paultag> Ishwon: it's in canonical's hands at this point
[16:08] <Ishwon> oops!
[16:09] <paultag> that form is for CDs :)
[16:09] <Ishwon> but no worries paultag, thanks for the help though...
[16:09] <paultag> Ishwon: good luck, might be worth it to bug someone at canonical into doing it
[16:09] <Ishwon> the linux workshop i told you isn't for soon.
[16:09] <paultag> ok
[16:09] <Ishwon> we got smething like 2 months to work it out...
[16:09] <paultag> Ishwon: keep at it!
[16:09] <Ishwon> it'll be @ the end of May,
[16:10] <Ishwon> well, 1.5 month then.
[16:10] <Ishwon> :)
[16:11] <Ishwon> thanks again for ur help paultag :)
[16:11] <paultag> Ishwon: godspeed!
[16:11] <Ishwon> :)
[16:12] <Ishwon> hey paultag, one last thing to bother you...
[16:13] <paultag> sure sure
[16:14] <Ishwon> we wanted to register a domain like ubuntu-mu.org to start our locoteam site. whom should we contact @ canonical, to get permission?
[16:14] <locodir-user> есть русскоязычные?:)
[16:14] <Ishwon> i believe we cannot just use the ubuntu like that.
[16:14] <paultag> !ru | locodir-user
[16:14] <ubot4> locodir-user: Пожалуйста посетите #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке  / Pozhalujsta posetite /join #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke
[16:14] <Ishwon> it's copyrighted by canonical nah?
[16:14] <paultag> Ishwon: yeah, but it's OK. you're allowed to do that
[16:14] <Ishwon> cool :)
[16:15] <paultag> Ishwon: have at it
[18:04] <mhall119> Ishwon: see http://www.ubuntu.com/aboutus/trademarkpolicy, specifically the part about permitted use
[18:07] <Ishwon> yep...
[18:08] <Ishwon> went through, seems ok for our purpose.
[18:08] <Ishwon> thanks mhall119.
[18:08] <mhall119> for loco teams, they're very allowing of it's use
[18:08] <Ishwon> that's nice.
[18:09] <Ishwon> we're planning ubuntu-mu.org for our locoteam's site & we'll request for ubuntuforums.org a subdomain for our forums.
[18:11] <mhall119> my team has ubuntu-fl.org, so there should be no problem
[18:14] <Ishwon> checking ur site. it's nice :)
[18:14] <Ishwon> very inspiring!
[18:15] <mhall119> thanks, dantalizing made it/runs it
[19:03] <AlanBell> Ishwon: I think all the countrycode domains are already registered
[19:05] <AlanBell> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LoCoHosting
[19:07] <AlanBell> http://ubuntu-cy.org/
[19:07]  * YoBoY updated this page 10 days ago ^^"
[19:08] <AlanBell> or in fact http://ubuntu-mu.org/
[19:09] <Ishwon> oops! it's now that i notice that.
[19:09] <Ishwon> our locoteam hasn't got approval yet.
[19:10] <Ishwon> in fact, we haven't applied... we wanted to get everything up & working before applying for approval.
[19:10] <Ishwon> what do you suggest AlanBell?
[19:11] <YoBoY> Ishwon: it's not mandatory to use the ndd, you can request it without being approved yet
[19:12] <Ishwon> Ok YoBoY! Cool then.
[19:15] <Ishwon> I got to go buddies, will update you with progress of my locoteam setup next time i show up here :)
[19:45] <YoBoY> our team just receive a server composed by 8 Xeon 1.8Ghz, 16Go de RAM, 2To hdd to store our backups :D
[19:59] <mhall119> nice


[06:10] <sgo11> hi, how to use gsettings to change lock screen background? ubuntu gnome 13.10. thanks.
[07:13] <sgo11> finally, I found the place. org.gnome.desktop.screensaver picture-uri
[07:23] <sgo11> with 13.10, when I lock screen with "ctrl+alt+l", the screen/monitor automatically turns off. This is not the same as before. how can I disable this behavior? I just like to see the lock screen instead of turning off the monitor. thanks.
[08:11] <njalk> sgo11, I too noticed this. I haven't used any energy trying to find out how to fix it yett though=)
[08:11] <njalk> so can't help you
[08:12] <sgo11> njalk, :) thanks for your reply.
[12:45] <ubuntulover> anyone based in UAE?
[15:23] <DavidBrooke> auscompgeek, thanks for your reply. It looks like ubuntu tweak wants to install compiz-core and some other compiz files....is this ok since mutter is being used?
[15:48] <ramucho> hello
[15:49] <ramucho> I have a problem installing my wifi printer with Ubuntu Gnome
[15:50] <ramucho> It is detected but can't be installed ? What can I do ?
[16:02] <ramucho> Anyone has an idea ?
[16:03] <MaverickPT> hi
[16:04] <MaverickPT> any point upgrading to the gnome 3 ppa, anyone know what 3.8 bits it includes
[16:57] <nadrimajstor> Where could one raise an issue regarding certain repeated posts on Ubuntu Gnome G+ page?
[19:23] <ampw> how do i switch the close button to the left side?
[19:47] <joshwebb> can anyone suggest a starting point for me.  I am using Ubuntu 13.10 with Gnome 3 and Cinnamon 2 installed.  I use tightvnc to access virtual display from my office.  I had to stop using a gnome session as I was getting accelerated graphics errors.  I installed cinnamon because of its similarity to gnome, I am able to start a cinnamon-fallback session but now bash_completion in terminal doesn't work by using tab.  When I pres
[19:47] <joshwebb> like an alt-tab
[19:48] <joshwebb> ctrl-i does make the autocomplete work.  when trying to assess keyboard settings I'm getting a segfault in gnome-control-center
[23:15] <auscompgeek> DavidBrooke: if you don't use compiz, it's fine, you'd probably never use it in the first place
[23:15] <auscompgeek> DavidBrooke: though if ubuntu-tweak depends on compiz, I'd be worried
[23:16] <auscompgeek> DavidBrooke: since there isn't really any reason for it to do so


[00:10] <slimz> anyone elses host file break upgrading from gutsy?
[00:11] <crimsun> not mine.
[00:12] <crimsun> also, I'm in the last testing phase for pulseaudio-0.9.8-1ubuntu1.  The source changes are at http://codebrowse.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-core-dev/pulseaudio/ubuntu/revision/crimsun%40ubuntu.com-20071206000640-0phcv0s4gx8yqfdd?start_revid=crimsun%40ubuntu.com-20071206000640-0phcv0s4gx8yqfdd
[00:12] <crimsun> Consider that a last call for comments ;)
[00:14] <RAOF> What comments are you after?
[00:15] <crimsun> any
[00:15] <crimsun> e.g., source, usage, wishlist, ...
[00:16] <RAOF> Why are you using XSBC-Vcs-Bzr?  Isn't Vcs-Bzr standard yet?
[00:16] <crimsun> no idea.  Is it?
[00:16] <RAOF> I'm pretty sure it is.
[00:16] <crimsun> looks like it is
[00:17] <crimsun> hmm.
[00:18] <crimsun> I guess I need to use the bazaar.lp syntax, too?
[00:19] <crimsun> i.e., Vcs-Bzr: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-core-dev/pulseaudio/ubuntu
[00:19] <RAOF> Whatever works, I suppose.
[00:19] <RAOF> (You could even use lp://~ubuntu-core-dev/pulseaudio, I think.  Or something similar)
[00:20] <crimsun> the two templates I'm using are ubiquity and mplayer
[00:20] <RAOF> they sound like good templates.  Might as well follow them.
[00:30] <crimsun> RAOF: thanks!
[00:31] <RAOF> NP
[00:31] <RAOF> Thanks for the pulseaudio :)
[01:34] <DM|> anyone else install hardy into a VM?
[01:35] <sn0> yep
[01:35] <DM|> You also have a problem with resizing the "install" window?
[01:36] <DM|> I moved the panels so its not a big deal , but was strange there for a sec
[01:36] <sn0> honestly, i cannot remember
[01:36] <DM|> kk
[01:36] <sn0> is it reproduceable?
[01:37] <DM|> i believe so
[01:37] <DM|> im installing into a VM atm or i would go test it
[01:38] <DM|> beauty of a VM
[01:38] <sn0> im playing golf online right now,else i would boot + try :)
[01:46] <bazhang> it is a huge panel--installed it when it came out
[01:47] <LDS_Trooper> Greetings
[01:48] <LDS_Trooper> not to stir any trouble.. but how does http://www.linuxtoday.com/developer/2006121402026NWKNDV affect Ubuntu?
[01:49] <LDS_Trooper> anyone?
[01:50] <RAOF> That's pretty old.
[01:50] <RAOF> Also, the worst-case-scenario is that we patch the check out of our kernel.
[01:50] <LDS_Trooper> I'm pretty new
[01:50] <LDS_Trooper> =)
[01:51] <LDS_Trooper> I asked in #Ubuntu and they sent me here
[01:51] <RAOF> I'm not sure why they'd do that.  Maybe #ubuntu-offtopic, perhaps :)
[01:52] <LDS_Trooper> So then its not for the development channel?
[01:52] <RAOF> Well, maybe, kinda.
[01:52] <LDS_Trooper> man.. it can be hard to get info in Linux
[01:52] <RAOF> So, in short: (1) I don't think that it's happening, and (2) I don't think we would ship a kernel that broke the nvidia & fglrx (among others) drivers.
[01:53] <RAOF> I suppose it kinda is hardy-development related.
[01:54] <LDS_Trooper> ok thanks...
[02:15] <pwnguin> which package are the iwl3945 drivers in for 2.6.24?
[02:32] <bazhang> I think they are part of the kernel now
[10:09] <BUGabundo> good morning guys and gals
[10:18] <BUGabundo> anyone with probs with fonts in nautilus???
[10:18] <BUGabundo> I see a few squares instead of the proper text
[13:15] <Lunks> I'm experiencing some lockups on Hardy, but no output is given (as far as I noticed). Where could I look for info about it?
[13:16] <Lunks> Or is it known that Hardy is locking up?
[13:17] <Hobbsee> which driver?
[13:18] <Lunks> graphics card?
[13:18] <Lunks> it's freezing up on normal usage, sometimes just after compiz *seems* to be activated.
[13:18] <Lunks> If it's graphics card, nvidia.
[13:18] <Lunks> new (100.x) drivers
[13:27] <Hobbsee> odd
[13:27]  * Hobbsee doesn't have nvidia
[13:29] <Lunks> Maybe it's the driver, I've seen people complaining about freezing with NVidia drivers, but I have used 96.31 (gutsy) and 169.04 (nvidia beta) and it never happened to me. :P
[13:30] <h3sp4wn> Lunks: recent bios upgrade ?
[13:30] <Lunks> nop
[13:30] <Lunks> just installed hardy from daily livecd
[13:31] <h3sp4wn> I started having some wierdness with 100.x after my latest bios upgrade but as they fixed HPET and amd-v I wanted to keep them
[13:31] <h3sp4wn> (So I use 169.04)
[13:31] <Lunks> Did the lockups ended?
[13:31] <h3sp4wn> yeah - But I never had them before with 100.x
[13:38] <Lunks> h3sp4wn: guess I'll try a new kernel and nvidia 169 =P
[14:00] <lunks> yeah, looks like it's freezing a lot. :P
[14:01] <lunks> gave up some X comfort to see if it stops locking up.
[15:10] <Lunks> Looks like my lock ups are not NVidia related.
[15:10] <Lunks> To figure it out, I launched Ubuntu on recovery mode and did modprobe -r nvidia
[15:10] <Lunks> didn't use x, and it still hanged
[15:11] <Lunks> If I can provide more info, I gladly will, but someone has to point me in some directions. :>
[15:15] <h3sp4wn> Lunks: Using which kernel ? the gutsy one ?
[15:16] <Lunks> h3sp4wn: the one that came with hardy, I believe it's 2.6.22-14
[15:16] <h3sp4wn> Lunks: Try a 2.6.24-rc4 kernel or the ubuntu-hardy.git repository
[15:17] <Lunks> h3sp4wn: I was trying to compile it, but I couldn't as it froze on me
[15:17] <Lunks> h3sp4wn: Do you know somewhere I can get a .deb?
[15:19] <h3sp4wn> I can give you the headers + image for 2.6.24-rc3-cfs-v24
[15:19] <h3sp4wn> for i386 if you want (but you would have to build nvidia.ko yourself)
[15:21] <Lunks> h3sp4wn: ok, I'm using x86 too.
[15:21] <Lunks> h3sp4wn: if it stops hanging, I'll compile it myself
[15:21] <Lunks> (been trying to use 2.6.24-rc4-zen0)
[15:22] <h3sp4wn> Its 184MB :/
[15:22] <h3sp4wn> I don't have anywhere I can store it with that much free space
[15:23] <Lunks> damn
[15:24] <Lunks> h3sp4wn: try www.divshare.com
[15:24] <Lunks> thank you for everything. :)
[15:27] <BUGabundo> hi
[15:28] <BUGabundo> quick question: does any one here use Seahorse?
[15:28] <Xemanth> horse?
[15:28] <BUGabundo> in hardy, it doesn't seem to support sshkeys. only pgp
[15:28] <BUGabundo> version: seahorse 2.21.3
[15:28] <BUGabundo> Xemanth: yes, seahorse, a keyring manager
[15:29] <Xemanth> i c
[15:29] <Xemanth> thought you were talking about Seamonkey or something :)
[15:29] <BUGabundo> do you use it ?
[15:30] <BUGabundo> I want o check, before posting to LP
[15:30] <BUGabundo> is there any other ssh key manager with gui?
[15:31] <Xemanth> only keyring manager which i use is kgpg
[15:32] <BUGabundo> let me check
[15:36] <BUGabundo> Xemanth: also on kgpg there's no ssh key!!!
[15:36] <BUGabundo> I can see it on my disk
[15:36] <BUGabundo> and use it to connect via ssh
[15:36] <BUGabundo> but it doesn't appear on any of this two key managers
[15:53] <Lunks> h3sp4wn: will you upload .deb kernel, then? :>
[15:53] <h3sp4wn> Lunks: If you can think of a method I can do it without signing up anywhere
[15:54] <Lunks> h3sp4wn: www.divshare.com
[15:54] <Lunks> h3sp4wn: you don't need to sign up.
[15:54] <Lunks> Only drawback is that it'll last for 30 days only, but that's not an issue as I expect to download it right away. :P
[15:55] <h3sp4wn> I would guess it would be faster to just make one than for me to upload 200MB
[15:55] <h3sp4wn> I cannot understand why it is so big either
[15:55] <Lunks> Well, if you don't want to register, you don't want to. But I find this service one of the best.
[15:56] <Lunks> h3sp4wn: looks like there are some stuff you can do to narrow its size down
[15:56] <h3sp4wn> The default ubuntu one is nowhere near that big
[15:57] <Lunks> sorry, i didn't know it doesn't have a no-register uploading method anymore
[15:57] <Lunks> hang on, I'll try to find out about ti
[15:59] <h3sp4wn> Lunks: I will build a cut down version
[15:59] <Lunks> what's it? =P
[15:59] <h3sp4wn> Lunks: What do you use in terms of stuff that is not in the main kernel source
[16:00] <Lunks> I've got a ps/2 keyboard, an usb mouse, athlon xp proccessor, < 4gb ram
[16:00] <Lunks> I use bluetooth but you can leave it off
[16:00] <Lunks> as far as I get it not freezing, I will build a new kernel
[16:01] <Lunks> So you don't need to make an everlasting bulletproof kernel for me. :P
[16:02] <h3sp4wn> ok
[16:16] <Lunks> thank you, h3sp4wn
[16:19] <h3sp4wn> I know why it was so big also (full debug kernel)
[16:20] <Lunks> hmm I didn't notice this checkbox on xconfig
[16:20] <Lunks> I'll check for it next time.
[16:52] <BUGabundo> how do I use xrand to setup dual monitor? any links?
[16:53] <Lunks> h3sp4wn: is it compiling still?
[16:55] <BUGabundo> anyone?!?! I need to configura a dual monitor system...
[16:56] <BUGabundo> and displayconfig-gtk is not yet ready for x 7.3
[17:06] <Lunks> h3sp4wn: i'll have to go afk and if it's still compiling say 'hau' =P
[17:25] <Lunks> h3sp4wn: could you say 'hello'? =P
[17:28] <h3sp4wn> hi
[17:28] <Lunks> h3sp4wn: i'll go afk, i hope you don't mind. is it still compiling?
[17:29] <h3sp4wn> Lunks: I was just going to upload (and check it boots I stripped tons of stuff)
[17:29] <Lunks> ok, I'll wait then
[17:34] <h3sp4wn> Lunks: It boots (there is no sound drivers - because I build them externally)
[17:34] <Lunks> np
[17:34] <h3sp4wn> http://openwrt.vcp-springe.de/experimental/h3sp4wn/
[17:34] <Lunks> h3sp4wn: thanks a lot, man
[17:35] <Lunks> hopefully it won't lock up anymore
[17:35] <Amaranth> oh god the nvidia + smp lockup?
[17:35] <Lunks> Amaranth: dunno =P
[17:36] <Amaranth> Do you have nvidia? Do you have a dual core or dual cpu system? Do you get random lockups?
[17:36] <Lunks> I've tried running on recovery mode and then modprobe -r nvidia, but it still locks up
[17:36] <Lunks> I don't have a dual core.
[17:36] <Lunks> Athlon XP 1900+
[17:36] <Amaranth> Then you, luckily, have a different problem
[17:36] <Amaranth> You don't want my problem
[17:36] <Lunks> hahah
[17:36] <Amaranth> 3d apps make it happen more often, I'm a compiz dev :/
[17:36] <Lunks> I can't see why Ubuntu locking up for a different reason is having luck, but anyway
[17:37] <Lunks> oh thats bad
[17:37] <Amaranth> and we get at least 1 bug report a week about it
[17:37] <h3sp4wn> I had that problem (and I only had it after updating my bios to one with hpet and amd-v) - but I don't anymore
[17:37] <Amaranth> from people blaming compiz
[17:37] <h3sp4wn> with the beta driver
[17:37] <Lunks> Like I'm trying, building a newer kernel wouldn't solve it, Amaranth?
[17:37] <Amaranth> h3sp4wn: afaik this only happens with nv4x cards
[17:37] <Amaranth> the Geforce 7000 series
[17:38] <Lunks> I'm on a FX 5200. :P
[17:38] <h3sp4wn> Amaranth: This one is a 7300GT
[17:38] <Amaranth> Lunks: i dunno, my particular problem is with the nvidia driver
[17:38] <Lunks> Bad thing about lock ups is that there's not much debug info when it locks up. :P
[17:38] <Amaranth> h3sp4wn: i've got 2.6.22 and the 169 driver
[17:38] <Lunks> rebooting into linux again, wish me luck! :>
[17:38] <Amaranth> sometimes it only locks up for 5-10 seconds
[17:38] <Lunks> h3sp4wn: thanks for the help man, really appreciated
[17:39] <Lunks> hopefully I'll hang on more than 10 minutes here. :D
[17:48] <Lunks> successfully booted and ran X using nv, but looks like I didn't have to reinstall my Ubuntu, as kernel framebuffer on X is what caused issues way back. :P
[17:48] <Lunks> now let's hope I can build the kernel without locking up. :D
[17:49] <Lunks> h3sp4wn: thank you very much!
[18:14] <Lunks> Amaranth: you should try a newer kernel. :)
[18:15] <Amaranth> Lunks: it's the nvidia driver
[18:15] <Amaranth> they admit it, they thought they fixed it
[18:17] <Lunks> too bad, then =P
[18:46] <Lunks-> Still locking up. =\
[18:46] <Lunks-> So, I can say it's not kernel nor nvidia module wise.
[19:48] <bernier> Hi, are hardy and fglrx supposed to work correctly with 3d accell and all?
[19:59] <h3sp4wn> bernier: All bets are off for the time being
[20:50] <jetsaredim> anyone reporting a problem with phpmyadmin
[20:50] <jetsaredim> on hardy
[21:33] <skyfalcon866> it is possible to dual boot kubuntu 7,10 and kubuntu hardy
[21:33] <h3sp4wn> skyfalcon866: yes
[21:33] <skyfalcon866> would i get the same results in virtualbox running hardy
[21:34] <h3sp4wn> Never used virtualbox
[21:34] <skyfalcon866> ok
[21:34] <h3sp4wn> I think someone complained within the last few days it was not working in virtualbox
[21:34] <h3sp4wn> but however as it was only one person its hard to know whether there really is a problem
[21:35] <skyfalcon866> ok one more thing
[21:35] <skyfalcon866> could installing kbuntu hardy break my stable kubuntu install
[21:36] <h3sp4wn> It could cause a black hole or the end of the universe or death to you
[21:36] <h3sp4wn> But if you read some instructions on how to do it - then it should be ok
[21:37] <skyfalcon866> ok =)
[21:38] <h3sp4wn> skyfalcon866: Depends how important the stuff is on the other install - you could use one of those removeable hdd trays and keep each os on a seperate disk and only have one in at once
[21:39] <skyfalcon866> like external hdd?
[21:40] <h3sp4wn> Not exactly I dunno how better to describe it right now though
[21:41] <skyfalcon866> ok
[22:08] <h3sp4wn> How far has the telepathy project progressed in recent times ?
[22:47] <void^> "/dev/sda5 has been mounted 75 times without being checked, check forced." .. why am i getting the feeling gnome-mount doesn't call fsck before mounting? :-)
[22:59] <hydrogen> I would think the first five letters of the command would explain any malfunctions
[23:10] <cps1966> hey guys got hardy installed on my new eee pc
[23:11] <cps1966> much better than xandros
[23:19] <h3sp4wn> cps1966: Have you the madwifi patch ?
[23:20] <h3sp4wn> (atheros posted it to the madwifi trac)