[00:38] <cmaloney> evening
[00:38] <rick_h_> party
[13:03] <brousch> My ball is 20% pumped up
[13:08] <rick_h_> lol
[13:08] <rick_h_> morning and welcome to the bookie flood of 2014
[13:09] <rick_h_> brousch: good call on the windows note. We've got our first windows user who's actually managed to get it installed and compiled enough stuff to get that far :/
[13:11] <brousch> hehe
[13:11] <brousch> Happens in #kivy a lot. Actually OSX may be more problematic there
[14:46] <mrgoodcat> waf: yes i do run a chromebook. why did that come up?
[14:46] <rick_h_> mrgoodcat: gamerchick had a question about installing on it
[14:46] <rick_h_> mrgoodcat: she's not around atm, but was curious and we were trying to find her chromebook folks to chat to
[14:46] <mrgoodcat> did it get resolved or does she still need help?
[14:46] <rick_h_> I think the question is still out, if you see her hop in sometime I'm sure she'd appreciate some info
[14:48] <mrgoodcat> i have irssinotifier so just mention my nick and i'll get on if i can
[14:48] <rick_h_> no problem or hurry. We can point her that maybe an email would make sense or what not
[14:50] <mrgoodcat> tell her to email the mailing list
[14:51] <rick_h_> will do
[14:51] <rick_h_> thanks
[14:53] <jrwren> oh no! https://www.trustedsec.com/february-2014/python-remote-code-execution-socket-recvfrom_into/
[14:54] <rick_h_> interesting
[14:54] <brousch> Chromebook r0x
[14:54] <mrgoodcat> brousch: agreed
[15:01] <brousch> I've almost convinced myself to get a pixel
[15:02] <mrgoodcat> don't
[15:02] <mrgoodcat> not worth it
[15:02] <cmaloney> brousch: Interesting that you've convinced yourself to spend $1500 on a laptop.
[15:03] <mrgoodcat> just get the 4GB C720
[15:04] <cmaloney> Isn't that the first one to be discontinued?
[15:04] <mrgoodcat> what? the c720? i just got one
[15:04] <brousch> cmaloney: Nah, can get them used for like $900
[15:05] <brousch> mrgoodcat: But the screen on the pixel is so much better. I have a 4GB C720 for my son
[15:05] <brousch> No, C720 is discontinued in 2017
[15:05] <cmaloney> mrgoodcat: Ah, it's slated to be EOL November 2017.
[15:06] <mrgoodcat> the screen is better but i don't know if I could justify even 800$ for that
[15:06] <rick_h_> woot screens!
[15:06] <rick_h_> says the man that spent a pixel on just a screen :/
[15:08] <brousch> 1366x768 is a far cry from 2,560x1,600
[15:08] <mrgoodcat> i could see getting a nice 4K monitor or something like that. but for a laptop i'm not sure its worth it
[15:08] <rick_h_> using this air I want a 13" retina now. The same res as my 12.5" and it's nicer, but I really want more.
[15:09] <brousch> I cannot go back to low res tablets because I have such nice ones
[15:09] <rick_h_> yep
[15:09] <rick_h_> it's the new cable modem
[15:09] <rick_h_> once you get a real taste it's hard to go back to low res devices
[15:09] <brousch> rick_h_: Pixel has retina-like resolution, and 4:3
[15:09] <rick_h_> yea, I'm all for the pixel.  We're only going to have 2 slots
[15:59] <_stink_> who picks?
[15:59] <_stink_> you?
[15:59] <rick_h_> yea, they submit an application and I pick two students to mentor for projects they pitch in their apps
[15:59] <_stink_> so they're just trying to kiss your ass for now?
[16:00] <rick_h_> they're supposed to get to know orgs and look into the projects, how they work, etc until the 10th of march
[16:00] <rick_h_> which yea, seems to be just that :/
[16:00] <rick_h_> and then they have from the 10th to 21st to submit apps
[16:00] <_stink_> interesting
[16:00] <_stink_> good luck to you
[16:00] <rick_h_> no kidding
[16:04] <brousch> rick_h_: PEP8 check their projects on github :D
[16:32] <jrwren> rick_h_: this post could not be found
[16:33] <rick_h_> jrwren: oh hmm
[16:33] <rick_h_> oh, not publicly shared
[16:34] <rick_h_> https://plus.google.com/+ChristianHeimes/posts/Z62EBkMsn4n jrwren
[16:34] <jrwren> rick_h_: thanks.
[16:35] <jrwren> its cool that 3.3.4 is fixed, but 2.7.x is the important fix
[16:35] <rick_h_> right
[16:35] <rick_h_> and ubuntu/debian getting updated builds out to everyone
[16:36] <jrwren> yay
[16:36] <jrwren> i saw the psql fix come in last night
[16:45] <rick_h_> hmm, not sold that this is a better solution for my future F2540
[16:45] <rick_h_> http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2014/02/ford-drops-microsoft-will-use-blackberrys-realtime-os-for-next-sync/
[16:45] <rick_h_> f250 bah
[16:46] <dzho> QNX
[16:47] <rick_h_> yea, the title of trading MS for BB makes one wince though lol
[16:47] <rick_h_> I suppose qnx will survive in some way regardless of BB
[16:50] <cmaloney> rick_h_: Well, you're already using QNX in your VW.
[16:50] <rick_h_> cmaloney: doh! I'm doomed
[16:50] <rick_h_> and already don't believe it'll last 10 years
[16:50] <cmaloney> QNX is not all that bad.
[16:51] <rick_h_> no, just more that it's owned by a sinking ship
[16:51] <cmaloney> please.
[16:51] <cmaloney> Nokia is busily shooting holes in its boat and it's not in any worse shape.
[16:51] <rick_h_> lol
[16:51] <rick_h_> come on, you're not rushing out for the nokia android phone?
[16:51] <cmaloney> Have you learned nothing from SCO?
[16:52] <cmaloney> companies don't die, they just sell off their relavent assets to holding companies
[16:52] <cmaloney> Honestly if you ever want immortality, show up on a corporate balance sheet.
[16:52] <dzho> ohhhhhhh
[16:52] <dzho> so that's what David Bowie's game is
[16:53] <cmaloney> it's fitting that Nitzer Ebb's "Join in the Chant" just came on the Squeezebox.
[16:53] <jrwren> rick_h_: from subaru to F250?
[16:54] <jrwren> GUNS GOLD FIRE
[16:54] <cmaloney> yeah, I didn't realize that the F250 was even in the running of RickRide++
[16:54] <rick_h_> jrwren: heh
[16:54] <cmaloney> Or is that RickRoll++ ? :)
[16:54] <rick_h_> well the goal is to get the wife a new car in a couple of years that's the 'family' ride and shared
[16:55] <rick_h_> auto adjusting memory seats and the like
[16:55] <rick_h_> good gas milage, the commuter
[16:55] <rick_h_> and the 250 for towing the airstream, sits parked most of the time, emergency second vehicle
[16:56] <rick_h_> so we've still got the outback, it's the wife's car
[16:56] <rick_h_> and her new one might be another outback, she's loving it
[16:57] <rick_h_> but going to need more truck to get my airsteam
[16:57] <jrwren> 13mpg pulling or not :)
[16:57] <rick_h_> yep :/
[16:58] <cmaloney> And sounds like a meat grinder while idling.
[16:58] <jrwren> only if its diesel
[16:59] <rick_h_> naw, they're getting better at that
[16:59] <rick_h_> oh it'll be the big D, not going back after having this TDI
[16:59] <jrwren> VW TDI != Ford Deisel
[16:59] <jrwren> very different engines
[16:59] <cmaloney> Yeah, I have to agree w/ jrwren
[17:00] <rick_h_> yea
[17:01] <cmaloney> knowing rick_h_'s luck the year he goes out to buy the F250 Diesel will be the year they discontinue it
[17:01] <rick_h_> lol
[17:01] <cmaloney> and you'll only be able to get the boneshaker F350l
[17:01] <rick_h_> my uncle has the full 8' 250
[17:01] <cmaloney> F350 rather
[17:02] <rick_h_> err 350
[17:02] <rick_h_> yea, 4 door 8' bed, tank
[17:02] <dzho> rick_h_: remind me, which TDI do you have?
[17:02] <jrwren> who makes the engines for ford? Ford? or is it Detroit Diesel? or Cummins?
[17:02] <rick_h_> dzho: touareg
[17:02] <dzho> ah
[17:02] <dzho> my 2000 Golf is starting to rust out :(
[17:02] <cmaloney> I want to say it's Cummins
[17:02] <cmaloney> but not 100% sure
[17:03] <jrwren> Ford I think.
[17:03] <jrwren> "Power Stroke"
[17:03] <cmaloney> jrwren: You're right
[17:03] <rick_h_> yea cummings is chrysler I thought
[17:03] <cmaloney> And you hit the same Wikipedia page. ;)
[17:03] <jrwren> nah, I hit: http://www.ford.com/trucks/superduty/features/Feature1/
[17:04] <cmaloney> I'm glad they buld them in house
[17:04] <cmaloney> one thing Ford did well was engines
[17:05] <cmaloney> Their transmissions on the other hand...
[17:05] <jrwren> hahaha, I was about to say the same thing
[17:05] <cmaloney> GM eats brakes, Ford eats transmissions, and Chrysler eats dust.
[17:06] <cmaloney> (I say this as an owner of products of all three brands)
[17:09] <jrwren> you like your chrysler eh?
[17:09] <jrwren> GM eats seals too
[17:10] <jrwren> err, GM Dexacool eats gaskets :(
[17:11] <mrgoodcat> my chevrolet has been through 2 transmissions
[17:11] <jrwren> but i"m going to try to get a few more years out of my GM car anyway
[17:11] <mrgoodcat> i'm on my third right now
[17:11] <mrgoodcat> still under 200k
[17:11] <jrwren> mrgoodcat: let me guess: Pontiac Vibe?
[17:11] <mrgoodcat> because chevrolet definitely makes the pontiac vibe
[17:11] <jrwren> oh wait, chevy.
[17:11] <jrwren> hrm...
[17:12] <jrwren> i can't guess.
[17:12] <mrgoodcat> suburban
[17:12] <mrgoodcat> 04
[17:12] <jrwren> oh REALY!?!
[17:12] <mrgoodcat> the transmission is a piece of shit
[17:12] <jrwren> what engine?
[17:13] <mrgoodcat> 5.3 v8
[17:13] <mrgoodcat> wait no
[17:14] <mrgoodcat> yes
[17:14] <mrgoodcat> 5.3 v8
[17:14] <jrwren> huh, that SHOULD be solid.
[17:14] <jrwren> weird.
[17:14] <mrgoodcat> I love driving it and it has great utility, but the transmission is a POS
[17:15] <mrgoodcat> one of my buddies that works at the GM proving grounds told me that they knew it was shitty when they sent it out
[17:15] <jrwren> huh, maybe I'm thinking of the trans for 5.7
[17:16] <jrwren> well, admitedly, a lot of GM transmissions are "shitty", but they make up for it in software :p
[17:16] <mrgoodcat> the z71 is rock solid
[17:16] <mrgoodcat> I have the z71 transmission in it now and hopefully it will last longer
[17:19] <mrgoodcat> nothing is worse than chrysler though
[17:20] <mrgoodcat> and I don't see that improving now that they're owned by Fiat which is known for shitty quality
[17:21] <mrgoodcat> http://autos.jdpower.com/research/FIAT/500/2013/Hatchback/ratings.htm
[17:24] <cmaloney> jrwren: Oh yeah, Dexacool is nasty stuff
[17:24] <jrwren> my last Chrysler was a '84 or 86 Omni.  I'm now consigned to just run with it that way.
[17:26] <jrwren> i'm gonna just keep running with it that way.
[17:26] <jrwren> it leaks coolant like crazy. I just keep running.
[17:26] <cmaloney> There's some hot-choclate mess that you can put in there to thicken it
[17:26] <jrwren> i tried the rat turds. It didn't work too well
[17:26] <cmaloney> huh
[17:28] <jrwren> django -I'm getting ValidationError 'ManagementForm data is missing or has been tampered with' from django admin for 1 and only 1 record in a table. I look in chrome-devtools and TOTAL_FORMS and friends look correct, I think.
[17:28] <jrwren> brousch: and djangoists, plz help :_)
[17:28] <rick_h_> DELETE FROM xxx WHERE id = YY
[17:28] <rick_h_> done!
[17:28] <rick_h_> oops, need a ;
[17:28] <jrwren> that is last resort
[17:29] <rick_h_> with a comment in the migration script "Not compatible with Django"
[17:29] <cmaloney> OK, I don't mean to judge or anything
[17:30] <cmaloney> but if your wife os one year older than the number of years you've been in Congress there's something a bit fucked up about that.
[17:30] <rick_h_> lol
[17:30] <jrwren> cmaloney: i agree. if you are that powerful you should have a WAY younger wife.
[17:30] <jrwren> wait... senator or rep? cuz rep, that is about right, but Senator - WAY more powerful, wife should never be over 30.
[17:31] <jrwren> trade in for new model every 5-6 yrs
[17:31] <jrwren> unless you are speaker of the house. See Newt Gingrich
[17:31] <cmaloney> jrwren: DOes this also apply for female representatives? :)
[17:32] <jrwren> cmaloney: definitely. all 3 of them.
[17:33] <rick_h_> ok, this is funny https://plus.google.com/114546378907380458640/posts/7at4Y8KEkz6
[17:34] <cmaloney> rick_h_: That's just wrong.
[17:35] <rick_h_> "when your tv is bigger than your mode of transportation..."
[17:52] <cmaloney> Yay! I think I'm going to be sponsoring some episodes of my favorite podcast in the name of Open Metalcast. :)
[17:54] <cmaloney> (favorite podcast that I am not a part of, that is. :) )
[17:55] <rick_h_> yay
[18:03] <brousch> jrwren: I have no clue. Maybe funky characters in that record?
[18:06] <jrwren> brousch: we thought so too so we inspected each field and found nothing
[18:12] <jrwren> i finally sucked it up and unmounted my filesystem, ran fsck and did resize
[18:13] <jrwren> 4.7T  3.4T  1.1T  76% /nomirror
[18:13] <jrwren> still 3.78 TiB PE free in my VG
[18:20] <Azeban> weather turned just nice so I took the office outdoors
[18:20] <Azeban> http://i.imgur.com/jpFd4Go.jpg
[18:22] <jrwren> Azeban: where are you?
[18:22] <jrwren> its snowing here
[18:23] <Azeban> dubai
[18:23] <Azeban> its perfect here
[18:24] <jrwren> nice
[18:26] <rick_h_> woot, got the document camera flipped for google hangouts cmaloney
[18:27] <rick_h_> used it to kind of mock out some design ideas with another team member real quick
[18:45] <cmaloney> rick_h_: Awesome!
[18:45] <cmaloney> Glad it's working out so quickly. :)
[18:46] <mrgoodcat> just installed i3
[18:46] <mrgoodcat> its an adjustment to get used to...
[18:46] <rick_h_> mrgoodcat: heh, yep. Have to bug widox for the pro tips
[18:46] <mrgoodcat> i'm a long way from pro tips
[18:47] <mrgoodcat> i just got to opening programs
[18:47] <rick_h_> lol
[18:48] <mrgoodcat> i think i'm going to like it though
[18:48] <mrgoodcat> i like the quick application switching
[18:48] <mrgoodcat> I don't have a lot of screen real estate to work with
[18:48] <rick_h_> yea, I love tiling because you spend less time worrying about application layout and just do do do
[18:49] <brousch> I'm sitting on my ball
[18:49] <mrgoodcat> the multi monitor support is nice
[18:49] <mrgoodcat> brousch: you have a workout ball for a chair?
[18:50] <brousch> Yes, just finished inflating it
[18:50] <mrgoodcat> so comfy :)
[18:50] <mrgoodcat> I used to do that
[18:50] <brousch> I used to stand, but multi monitors killed my setup there
[18:50] <mrgoodcat> but i was getting back pains after a while and my chiropractor said it could be the ball
[18:51] <cmaloney> Yeah, I had a period of back pain as well
[18:51] <cmaloney> but it's subsided
[18:52] <mrgoodcat> you use ball too?
[18:52] <cmaloney> Yeah, I use the Gaiam chair
[18:52] <cmaloney> (at home)
[18:52] <mrgoodcat> i'm all about the standing desk these days
[18:52] <rick_h_> yea, standing/sitting combo ftw
[18:52] <mrgoodcat> its adjustable though if i need
[18:52] <cmaloney> Unfortunately I don't have the room for the standing desk
[18:53] <mrgoodcat> rick_h_: i'm combo as well
[18:53] <mrgoodcat> cmaloney: what do you mean? it doesn't take up that much room
[18:53] <cmaloney> mrgoodcat: I barely have enough room for the desk that I have. :)
[18:54] <mrgoodcat> but why would standing take more room?
[18:55] <brousch> This is plain 75" ball. Not a chair
[18:57] <mrgoodcat> brousch: mine was plain ball too
[18:57] <cmaloney> mrgoodcat: a) I'd need somewhere to put the chair. b) Vertical room. c) Need somewhere to put the other desk that I had to have. ;)
[18:57] <mrgoodcat> oh. my desk is adjustable so i don't need to worry about the second desk
[18:57] <cmaloney> Plus I have a slide-out desk that I use for my laptop. :)
[18:58] <cmaloney> mrgoodcat: I mean my wife would not be thrilled with me buying yet-another-desk. :)
[18:58] <brousch> I think my abs are tired already
[18:59] <mrgoodcat> haha
[18:59] <mrgoodcat> i don't have wife to complain
[19:00] <mrgoodcat> what font should i use?
[19:01] <mrgoodcat> the default i3 font hurts me
[19:01] <brousch> Courier
[19:02] <mrgoodcat> thats the typewriter font?
[19:02] <brousch> Yes
[19:03] <cmaloney> This is why we never listen to brousch
[19:19] <mrgoodcat> my chromebook doesn't have pageup/pagedown. does anybody know how to bind mod1+up/down to page?
[19:19] <mrgoodcat> using i3
[19:19] <rick_h_> mrgoodcat: try ctrl up/down arrow? or alt?
[19:19] <rick_h_> I know on some machines there's already a combo for it
[19:20] <mrgoodcat> doesn't seem to work for me
[19:21] <rick_h_> mrgoodcat: :( not sure then
[19:21] <mrgoodcat> damn...
[19:25] <brousch> mrgoodcat: alt+up arrow should be page up
[19:26] <mrgoodcat> thats in chromeos
[19:26] <mrgoodcat> i'm in ubuntu right now
[19:35] <brousch> I don't know if I will make it 1 hour on this ball the first day. My abs are really feeling it
[19:35] <cmaloney> brousch: You may need to work your way up to it
[19:35] <cmaloney> I didn't do that and had some pretty fun times with my back as a result
[19:36] <rick_h_> brousch: yea, take it slow
[19:37] <rick_h_> brousch: you can hurt yourself. People that go standing cold turkey actually have done damage before :/
[19:37] <rick_h_> though I think jrwren was super hero that did full day standing when he started as well
[19:38] <brousch> I'll tough out 1 hour and work up from there
[19:38] <cmaloney> brousch: Don't be a hero
[19:39] <cmaloney> seriously, you can make your day miserable
[19:40] <mrgoodcat> when i started ball i was still in swimming
[19:40] <mrgoodcat> i can't imagine starting now
[19:40] <mrgoodcat> my poor abs
[19:43] <brousch> cmaloney: I'm no hero, I'm just a big baller.
[19:43] <cmaloney> Makes my 52cm seem positively pedestrian. ;)
[19:43] <cmaloney> brousch: You might have some problems with a 75cm ball actually.
[19:44] <cmaloney> Are you slouching?
[19:45] <brousch> No, the height is really close to what my chair was
[19:45] <brousch> Once I've sat on it, that is
[19:45] <cmaloney> Right, but there's also a width problem
[19:45] <brousch> Width is fine, not hitting anything
[19:46] <cmaloney> I mean your legs are likely pushed out further
[19:46] <brousch> They rest comfortably on the floor
[19:46] <brousch> Size seems perfect. I'm glad I dug for this instead of settling for a 65"
[19:46] <cmaloney> brousch: Can someone at the office take a photo of you sitting naturally on that ball?
[19:48] <brousch> So you can post it to /r/funny?
[19:48] <cmaloney> no...
[19:48] <cmaloney> not right away anyway. ;)
[19:48] <brousch> Hour is up, back in the chair
[19:49] <brousch> Now where do I store this thing?
[19:50] <cmaloney> bingo
[19:50] <cmaloney> This is why I went with the ball chair
[19:51] <brousch> I can shove it under my desk I guess
[19:52] <mrgoodcat> you must really not have much room... am I the only one with extra space?
[19:52] <brousch> Yes
[19:52] <brousch> My space is full of servers, old computers, old printers, and me
[20:29] <rick_h_> gahhhhhhhh
[20:29]  * rick_h_ disconnects from the internet
[20:30] <rick_h_> the freaking python gsoc channel is quiet
[20:30] <cmaloney> Yeah, they're all in #bookie
[20:30] <greg-g> haha
[20:30] <cmaloney> ;)
[20:30] <greg-g> I had to leave it
[20:30] <greg-g> god speed good sir.
[20:30] <rick_h_> greg-g: lol
[20:31] <brousch> rick_h_: Better take a leave of absence
[20:32] <rick_h_> just have to make it to the student selctions. Then it's only two people
[20:32] <rick_h_> that I can handle
[20:32] <rick_h_> 5 at once gets to be whoa
[20:33] <cmaloney> Something tells me it'll get rel fun when the procrastinators kick in. :)
[20:33] <greg-g> yeah, one week before submissions are due you'll be doing bookie 60 hrs that week :)
[20:34] <cmaloney> Thta said there's lots of things getting fixed.
[20:35] <greg-g> which is great
[20:35] <greg-g> I know the first rushes can be overwhelming (it's a 3ish person full time-ish job for MediaWiki every year)
[20:35] <greg-g> but in the end things are improved
[20:36] <cmaloney> yep
[20:36] <rick_h_> yea, no it's exciting for sure. and I still love the idea of teaching and getting experience I only kind of got through co-op in college
[20:36] <rick_h_> there is a certain amount of timezone offset that's a bit ugh
[20:37] <greg-g> yeah, that part sucks, push em to the mailing list if you can
[20:37] <rick_h_> yea, I need to do more of that
[20:37] <cmaloney> Or perhaps a Wiki of getting started instructions
[20:39] <rick_h_> yea, well glad I got that far right away with the pastebin. Saved me a ton of time
[20:39] <brousch> #bookie is crazy right now. I feel a little bad because I can answer so few questions
[20:40] <rick_h_> hah, it's all good. I signed up very carefully for it :)
[20:48] <rick_h_> heh, imports killing the server
[20:48] <brousch> You wouldn't have scale problems if you'd gone with GAE
[20:49] <rick_h_> :P
[20:49] <greg-g> brousch: :(
[20:49] <brousch> greg-g: Bah, rick_h_ knows he is my hero
[20:50] <rick_h_> added 4k bookmarks heh
[20:50] <rick_h_> almost to 80k now
[20:50] <brousch> What was that landmark number you were near?
[20:50] <brousch> Number of users maybe
[20:50] <rick_h_> yea, crossed 200 users with bookmarks
[20:50] <rick_h_> over 240 now
[20:50] <rick_h_> and 70k bookmarks was the last milestone
[20:50] <rick_h_> guess 100k will be next
[20:51] <rick_h_> and 300 users with bookmarks
[20:52] <rick_h_> https://bmark.us/dashboard
[20:52] <brousch> 100k bookmarks should be a bookie party
[20:52] <rick_h_> wish I had my graphs up now
[20:52] <greg-g> brousch++
[20:52] <rick_h_> so see the activity over the last day
[20:52] <rick_h_> brousch: sounds like a plan to me
[20:52] <greg-g> I'll be in Michigan on Friday - Tues, btw :)
[20:52] <rick_h_> greg-g: ?!
[20:52] <rick_h_> greg-g: then come over and have some wine!
[20:52] <greg-g> sister in law's wedding, staying at mother-in-law's place in Chelsea
[20:53] <greg-g> may or may not have a vehicle of our own :/
[20:53] <rick_h_> that can be worked around
[20:53] <greg-g> I may end up just fucking renting one, I can't be dependent on MIL
[20:53] <rick_h_> we'll all crash at jcastro's place
[20:53] <greg-g> YES!
[20:53] <rick_h_> he's out that way
[20:54] <cmaloney> I really wish Mako had an excel export
[20:55] <greg-g> I don't think he uses MS software :P
[20:57] <brousch> cmaloney: ODS or DIAF
[21:00] <cmaloney> greg-g: har har
[21:01] <cmaloney> brousch: I wish
[21:04] <jrwren> apt-get install -y -f
[21:05] <brousch> 'apt-get' is not recognized as an internal or external command,
[21:05] <brousch> operable program or batch file.
[21:07] <jrwren> *gasp*
[21:13] <cmaloney> greg-g: If we don't manage to catch up, would you duck-tape yourself to the nearest flag pole so we can keep you in Michigan?
[21:13] <cmaloney> just as a temporary measure until we can work out something permanent
[21:25] <jrwren> sed -i 's/local +all +all +peer/local all all trust/' pg_hba.conf
[21:25] <jrwren> discuss
[21:27] <brousch> Can you restate it in plain English?
[21:27] <jrwren> replacing postgresql peer auth with trust auth.
[21:27] <jrwren> i.e. allow any local user
[21:27] <jrwren> because I trust all my local users.
[21:27] <jrwren> i'm trying to make folks cringe. did it work?
[21:29] <brousch> Just don't have any local users!
[21:34] <jrwren> right
[21:40] <_stink_> brousch: i cannot stop laughing at
[21:40] <_stink_> "Yes sir I want to."
[21:41] <brousch> See if I can scare this one off
[21:42] <brousch> I have a strong suspicion this one runs Windows
[21:43] <_stink_> perhaps asking that in an accusatory tone would be appropriate
[21:44] <brousch> Not really, it will pop up soon if it's the case
[23:48] <gamerchick02> i forgot how good Thai food was. i've not had in forever.


[06:59] <dholbach> good morning
[07:28] <dholbach> ajmitch, any idea how to fix the "app_name" issue?
[07:32] <ajmitch> you mean the bug I filed today?
[07:33] <ajmitch> if so, there's a div containing the suggested name after the <p> that has Suggested Package Name
[07:37] <dholbach> did you see the comment I wrote earlier?
[07:37] <ajmitch> nope :)
[07:37]  * ajmitch goes to check lp mail
[07:38] <ajmitch> I'm tempted to make a trello board that has the state of the submissions & who's been working with them, but then I think it may duplicate the queue a bit
[07:39] <dholbach> a Trello board would be awesome
[07:39] <dholbach> it'd be nice if we could get some json dump out of myApps which we could automatically feed into a Trello board
[07:39] <dholbach> or some such
[07:39] <ajmitch> yeah, I might ask achuni about that
[07:39] <dholbach> so we wouldn't need to keep 2 pages in sync
[07:40] <ajmitch> I know I can  poke things into trello from the api
[07:41] <ajmitch> ok, found your comment on the bug
[07:42]  * ajmitch replied there
[07:44] <ajmitch> how often are you running this importer to get new submissions?
[07:45] <ajmitch> and do you think you'll be able to get oauth credentials to be able to post comments about the branches automatically on the myapps submissions? :)
[07:46] <PaoloRotolo> Hi all!
[07:48] <ajmitch> hello
[07:48] <dholbach> ajmitch, no idea about oauth
[07:49] <dholbach> ajmitch, I run it every now and then - right now I still want to be able to check what's going on
[07:49] <dholbach> but I guess I can cron it at some stage
[07:51] <ajmitch> ideally it'd run server-side so we have branches as soon as someone submits an app
[07:51] <ajmitch> but that has limitations
[07:57] <dholbach> ajmitch, what do you mean by "suggested package name"?
[07:57] <dholbach> and where do I get the ppa from? :)
[07:58] <ajmitch> https://myapps.developer.ubuntu.com/dev/apps/1030/ - see under the tarball link
[07:58] <dholbach> ahaaa!
[07:59] <dholbach> thanks ajmitch
[07:59] <dholbach> I somehow must have missed it
[07:59] <ajmitch> simple once you see where ;)
[07:59] <dholbach> yeah, I might even be able to drop the unidecode code
[08:00] <ajmitch> I'm not sure if it's a mandatory field, you may want to check some other submissions
[08:00] <dholbach> ok
[08:02]  * ajmitch didn't spot any obvious problems with the regular expressions you wanted checked
[08:02] <ajmitch> at least not in the latest revision
[08:07] <dholbach> ok cool
[08:08] <dholbach> I'll propose some code later or tomorrow to make use of that data
[08:15] <ajmitch> ok
[10:00] <dholbach> ajmitch, fixed the app_name thing
[10:01] <dholbach> and made some unrelated changes as well to deal with renames of tarballs better
[10:01] <dholbach> I'll do another run to see how it works :)
[10:05] <ajmitch> dholbach: alright, excellent
[10:06] <dholbach> ok, pyenglish should be up now :)
[10:06]  * ajmitch will need to go through & branch everything
[10:06] <ajmitch> I hope I've got enough diskspace
[10:07] <dholbach> it's not too much
[10:07] <dholbach> appbot@holba:~/production/apps-brancher$ du -sh data/branches/
[10:07] <dholbach> 657M	data/branches/
[10:07] <dholbach> appbot@holba:~/production/apps-brancher$
[10:07] <ajmitch> & then try & build all of them, that'll be a bit more
[10:08] <dholbach> yes, I guess :)
[10:08]  * ajmitch only had about 2GB free on the laptop :)
[10:08] <ajmitch> I need to sort out the other drive in it, resize the broken ntfs partition
[10:09]  * ajmitch has to sleep now though, will get to it tomorrow night
[10:12] <dholbach> alright, sleep tight :)
[14:11] <dholbach> Hey - can everbody please vote on wikipedia-lens, unity-lens-vm, ssh search lens, hivemind and cooking-lens?
[16:12] <PaoloRotolo> Hi all!


[00:04] <floogy> Hi, I got issues on ubuntu one 12.04. i'm no longer able to publish files. Is that a new feature?
[00:05] <floogy> I only see "Download file" and if I copy that link it brings me to a login page.
[00:05] <floogy> If I click that link from elsewhere.
[00:07] <floogy> If I 'publish' a file by right click in nautilus, I'll get a notification 'a file is no longer published'
[00:07] <floogy> http://askubuntu.com/questions/309448/publish-a-file-fails-cannot-access-web-link-a-file-is-no-longer-published
[00:10] <floogy> Is that recently as intended?


[01:46] <TandyUK> tgm4883: ubuntu desktop 12.04.1 x64 refuses to boot lol
[01:46] <TandyUK> downloaded the iso twice, md5sum'd it, and verrified the disc the second time
[01:46] <TandyUK> at least the mythbuntu disc booted lol
[01:47] <TandyUK> so still no idea if the plain ubuntu supports it, but further googling sugests not without installing dkms and building the kernel modules ofr it
[01:47] <TandyUK> so i see my course of action being something like this...
[01:48] <TandyUK> boot myth livecd, install ddkms and get the kernel mod working so when i go to install i can actually see the drive
[01:48] <TandyUK> once installer completes, do not reboot, and chroot into the newly installed os
[01:48] <TandyUK> here again install the dkms and build the kernel mods
[01:49] <TandyUK> then rebuild the boot kernel and reinstall the boot loader and install this onto the boot sector of the raid array
[01:49] <TandyUK> and i should be ok to reboot for the first time
[01:54] <TandyUK> pretty much all the way up to sorting oput the boot loader ill be fine on, but as a heavy centos/suse user,, the boot stuff im gonna need to ubuntu specific help with :P
[01:54] <TandyUK> unless theres anythig else you guys think i should know before i start that is... :)
[02:13] <gregL> TandyUK, Did you ask your question in  #ubuntu ? There are some pretty knowledgeable people.. Maybe someone there will have an answer for you...
[02:15] <gregL> There are some pretty knowledgeable people in there.. That should have read...
[02:36] <qwebirc70055> I'm trying to install mythbuntu 12.04 from an ISO CD I've created. It hangs on the 'Preparing to install' screen. I've read that it's probably something to do with a non-clean 'swap'. I've tried re-partitioning with gparted, but still no luck. Can someone either help me out or at least point me to where I can get answers?
[02:44] <TandyUK> well theyre not much help tbh lol
[02:44] <TandyUK> but i have a mythbuntu live running with my disk showing up now :)
[02:45] <TandyUK> tested the media etc/
[02:45] <TandyUK> ?
[02:45] <qwebirc70055> yeah, the CD seems ok
[02:47] <qwebirc70055> Do you know how to tell if my swap partition is clean?
[02:47] <TandyUK> no idea, but id hazard a guess deleteing the partition would do it
[02:47] <TandyUK> did you md5sum the iso you downloaded?
[02:48] <qwebirc70055> no, I can try that...I had my CD burner perform verification and it was OK (I had to discard the first disk I made)
[02:50] <qwebirc70055> I loaded gparted and deleted all the partitions and created everything from scratch, but still no luck
[02:50] <qwebirc70055> I'll try the md5sum now
[02:50] <TandyUK> as im having to manually do the partitioning to prevent the installer wiping out my 6tb raid array!..
[02:51] <TandyUK> what is the defalt filesystem type for the root partiton in mythbuntu?
[02:51] <qwebirc70055> ah, I'm just using an old machine, so I don't care if I wipe out the entire drive
[02:51] <TandyUK> im having tpo reinstall a customers (not done since 10.something) just done upgrades since then
[02:52] <qwebirc70055> I'm not sure. I formatted it as ext4
[02:52] <TandyUK> his raid array started, so we replaced it before too many disks died
[02:52] <TandyUK> then the os drive died, so ive added a highpoint rr620 and 2 drives raid 1 for mythbunu to get installed on
[02:52] <TandyUK> bloody drivers arent in ubuntu yet so its being a pita
[02:53] <TandyUK> at least not b default
[02:53] <qwebirc70055> yeah, that's frustrating
[02:56] <qwebirc43048> I just verified the md5sum and it's ok
[02:56] <qwebirc43048> (my browser just crashed so I had to reload the tab...I'm not sure if it just continues where I left off here)
[04:29] <qwebirc12695> I need help trying to setup Myth to play an Audio CD (DVD already works)
[22:46] <Shinobi> Is it possible to get a silent front end to mythbuntu that can also play mame, and other emulators?  (Wii emulator?)
[22:50] <rhpot1991> Shinobi: could try something ion2 based, dunno it would have enough horsepower though


[06:22] <ThinkT510> just wanted to let you all know the upgrade from OTA-11 to OTA-12 went very smoothly on my nexus 4
[06:23] <ThinkT510> well done on the new release
[17:33] <irrr3levant> Hey
[18:52] <ben{}> when the web will fall down, IRC will be still there ;-)


[03:48] <ZachGibbens> Not that I remember, but I'm used to debian six now
[03:49] <ZachGibbens> So to me it's old news
[03:53] <JackFrost> Debian six?  Isn't that very very old?  Considering 10 is stable and 11 is current? :3


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[06:08] <vorlon> LocutusOfBorg: rather than bootstrapping this annoying rust dependency chain, I'm going to make livecd-rootfs not depend on python3-launchpadlib on i386, which with luck will also drop python-cryptography out of the set
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[07:43] <LocutusOfBorg> vorlon, even better thanks!
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[14:01] <xypron> archive admins please, consider retiring nezha-boot0 in Lunar as described in LP #1999920
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[12:40] <Burgwork> Committed revision 1.
[12:40] <Burgwork> [corey@localhost openuserful] $
[12:40] <Burgwork> woot!
[12:41] <Burgwork> http://svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/openuserful/
[01:10] <pygi> what is that Burgwork ?
[01:22] <Burgwork> a computer reservation and timing server
[01:23] <Burgwork> written in Tcl
[03:23] <bddebian> Hello
[04:14] <stormchas3r> where can i find the documentation to help me pass the Ubuntu Certified Professionals exam?
[05:30] <vanchuck> :-)
[05:30] <vanchuck> can anyone tell me what the language support is like for, say, Chinese in edubuntu?
[05:38] <Burgundavia> vanchuck: quite good
[05:39] <Burgundavia> which language are you specifici looking for?
[05:40] <stormchas3r> anyone here know anything about the "Ubuntu Certified Professional" exam?
[06:00] <Burgundavia> stormchas3r: not really, but it is mostly the level 1 LPI, from what I udnerstand
[06:01] <stormchas3r> Burgundavia, nice, so i could study the lpi books and i should be ok, thats dude
[06:01] <Burgundavia> there maybe Ubujntu specific information, so I would contact LPI directly
[06:01] <stormchas3r> Im really liking the edubuntu theme
[06:01] <stormchas3r> kk
[06:03] <stormchas3r> how can i become a member of ubuntu?
[06:05] <Burgundavia> sustained and visible contribution to Ubuntu/Edubuntu/Kubuntu,etc.
[10:54] <ksteffensen> Ogra: My prototype LTSP lab is going well.  I almost have it all worked out for a limited user test, but I cannot get the floppy disks to work on the thin clients.  Any pointers?  I've found general LTSP howtos, but nothing specific to the Ubuntu LTSP implementation.  Thanks.
[10:59] <ksteffensen> Anyone - My prototype LTSP lab is going well. I almost have it all worked out for a limited user test, but I cannot get the floppy disks to work on the thin clients. Any pointers? I've found general LTSP howtos, but nothing specific to the Ubuntu LTSP implementation. Thanks.
[11:01] <Burgundavia> local devices was only turned on for the edgy ltsp stuff
[11:02] <ogra> and still has bugs, especially for floppes
[11:02] <ogra> *floppies
[11:03] <ogra> (i cant test the code due to missing a floppy here :) )
[11:03] <ksteffensen> huge bummer.  USB flash disks, too, i guess?
[11:04] <ogra> usbdisks, CDs, cameras and ipds are tested and working fine in edgy
[11:04] <Burgundavia> ogra: we have all kinds of fun at work with floppies, because we have todo hacks due to our multiseat stuff
[11:04] <ogra> *ipods
[11:05] <ogra> i have only a usb floppy and that is not working righ with the kernel ...
[11:05] <ogra> so its hard to test... but it will be fixed for release, promised :)
[11:05] <ksteffensen> cool.  is edgy solid enough to upgrade to the development tree, or hazardous to my health?  (or even possible for a mortal user to upgrade to the devel tree?)
[11:06] <ogra> if you only use ltsp for fun at home i'd say its fine ... if your ltsp server is in production in a school i'd strictly say no
[11:08] <ksteffensen> thanks.  it's for production, that's why I'm hoping to get the floppies working.  trying to get off of windows 98...  working for a year at college in Tanzania and all of the computers are ancient.  fair for thin clients but awful for any modern OS.
[11:09] <ksteffensen> oh, thanks for the graphical login fix.  changing usplash to start instead of stop has worked flawlessly for a few days.
[11:10] <ogra> yeah, but i need to fix the package ... thats such an odd bug ...
[11:10] <ogra> who would guess to call "start" to stop something
[11:11] <ksteffensen> yeah.  you would think start would start it and stop would stop it, but I can see in the usplash script where it's backwards (now that I know to look there...)  A nod to you for even thinking to look.
[11:11] <ogra> :)
[11:12] <ogra> to be honest i looked at gdm :)
[11:12] <ksteffensen> lol
[11:14] <ksteffensen> Burgundavia: any easy way to turn on local devs under Dapper, or not worth the pain?
[04:46] <raymondtracm> hi
[04:46] <raymondtracm> anybody home?
[05:28] <bddebian> Hello
[05:50] <sbalneav_> !seen ogra
[05:50] <ubotu> I last saw ogra (n=ogra@ubuntu/member/ogra) 1h 20m 43s ago, quiting: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)
[07:41] <cbx33> ping Seveas
[07:58] <capt_kirk> cbx33: I'm curious on your opinion about upgrading to Edgy at this point.  I'm working in Tanzania at a college that has old P-II's running Windows 98.  They've been limping along on them, but I've talked them into moving to an LTSP/thin-client architecture.  Right now, local devices don't work at all in Dapper.  Ogra said that they're kind of working in Edgy, although floppies are still...
[07:58] <capt_kirk> ...buggy.  We're at the point that even a buggy modern OS will be better than Win98.  My real question is if you're using Edgy now, and if so, how is the stability.  Thanks.
[07:59] <capt_kirk> (or anyone else's opinion for that matter.  thanks.)
[08:00] <pygi> cbx33, see? you're famous :)
[08:01] <pygi> hehe :)
[08:39] <cbx33> heheh
[08:39] <cbx33> whoops ...
[08:39] <cbx33> I wan't here
[08:39] <cbx33> I'll chat to him another time ;)
[08:51] <Seveas> cbx33, ?
[10:08] <SynrG> Amaranth: did you speak to raphink recently about the status of willowng wrt the upcoming Ichthux release?
[10:08] <Amaranth> No?
[10:08] <Amaranth> I've been talking to Laser_away about a release of something.
[10:09] <SynrG> Amaranth: it seems that the dapper backporting issues will prevent it from going into our 6.09 release, but we hope to put it in 6.10
[10:09] <SynrG> because we currently have it break on unfiltered sites :/
[10:09] <SynrG> and that's very bad
[10:09] <Amaranth> "break"?
[10:09] <SynrG> prevent pages from being displayed on sites that aren't even filtered
[10:09] <SynrG> i forget the exact error returned
[10:09] <Amaranth> oh
[10:10] <SynrG> but it's in my irclog somewhere
[10:14] <SynrG> ah:
[10:14] <SynrG> ichthux-2006-09-07-19:00 < LaserJock> "rkd: and for some reason lots of sites return 'connection to host is broken'"
[10:14] <SynrG> these are sites that aren't even being filtered
[10:40] <hoteric> hi
[10:40] <hoteric> hei
[10:53] <bddebian> Hello
[10:54] <cbx33> bddebian HI!!!!
[10:55] <bddebian> Hi cbx33
[10:56] <cbx33> howz it going
[10:57] <bddebian> OK, thx. You?
[10:59] <pygi> bddebian, hello :)
[10:59] <cbx33> hey pygi
[10:59] <pygi> hey ho cbx33
[11:00] <pygi> how are all you?
[11:00] <pygi> bddebian, you know what I will ask ^_^
[11:00] <bddebian> Yep :-)
[11:00] <bddebian> No, I haven't done it yet :-(
[11:00] <pygi> oki, understood
[11:01] <pygi> just say you wont do it if you dont have time
[11:01] <pygi> highvoltage, cbx33 , bddebian , can I ask for a little favor?
[11:02] <bddebian> pygi: Nah, I should be able to at least attempt it some time today
[11:02] <cbx33> pygi sure
[11:02] <pygi> cbx33, I need people to run "./libburner --drive -"
[11:02] <pygi> cbx33, svn co http://libburn-svn.pykix.org
[11:02] <pygi> bootstrap
[11:02] <pygi> ./configure
[11:03] <pygi> make
[11:03] <pygi> cd test
[11:03] <pygi> ./libburner --drive -
[11:03] <pygi> And I need output
[11:03] <cbx33> pygi odyou need it now
[11:03] <cbx33> or will tomorrow do?
[11:03] <cbx33> actually
[11:03] <cbx33> f-it I'll do it now
[11:05] <cbx33> pygi where do i get bootstrap
[11:05] <cbx33> ?
[11:05] <bddebian>  trunk/
[11:06] <cbx33> :(
[11:06] <cbx33> I'm stupid
[11:06] <cbx33> aclocal not found
[11:06] <bddebian> Why?
[11:06] <cbx33> automake not found :(
[11:07] <cbx33> ok
[11:07] <cbx33> installed
[11:08] <cbx33> make: No Targets specified
[11:08] <pygi> cbx33, what are you doing? you did bootstrap and ./configure before make?
[11:08] <cbx33> ok
[11:08] <cbx33> the configure has broken
[11:08] <cbx33> cannot run /bin/bash ./config.sub
[11:09] <cbx33> there is no config.sub
[11:09] <cbx33> does that mean the bootstrap failed?
[11:09] <pygi> lol, whats wrong with your system :-/
[11:10] <cbx33> :(
[11:10] <cbx33> bootstrap
[11:10] <cbx33> Makefile.am:207 invalid variable
[11:10] <cbx33> nodlist_pkgconfig_DATA
[11:11] <pygi> cbx33, ah, oki, dont bother then
[11:11] <cbx33> does this mean I'm bad :(
[11:11] <pygi> lol, no, dont worry


[20:20] <esac> you guys might know better than the main channel. what kind of resume from suspend time should i expect ?
[20:51] <pwnguin> esac: is it a toshiba?
[20:51] <esac> lenovo thinkpad t61p
[20:51] <pwnguin> oooh
[20:51] <esac> duo core 2.2ghz, 4gb ram
[20:51] <esac> vista resumes in about 15 seconds, but ubuntu is more like 1 minute
[20:51] <pwnguin> i wish those were out when i bought my lapto
[20:52] <esac> ya, its a nice laptop :)
[20:52]  * pwnguin is lucky if resume works at all =(
[20:52] <pwnguin> its crazy. all i could find was a t41x
[20:52] <pwnguin> which was ancient
[20:52] <pwnguin> two months later, that model came out
[20:53] <pwnguin> I assume you mean Suspend-to-RAM
[20:54] <pwnguin> esac: have you seen thinkwiki?
[20:54] <esac> noooo whats that
[20:54] <esac> sounds like a wiki just for thinkpads
[20:55] <esac> ill check it out
[20:55] <pwnguin> http://thinkwiki.org/
[20:55] <pwnguin> its exactly like it sounds like
[20:56] <pwnguin> esac: mjg is your guy on suspend, really
[20:57] <pwnguin> (I'm not sure how enthusiastic about he is about that status)
[20:57] <esac> oh ya i worked with him on a vaio about 2.5 years ago
[20:58] <pwnguin> so is that a tablet model?
[20:59] <pwnguin> seems like no
[20:59] <esac> nope