[06:34] <unperson> I'm trying to burn an ISO onto a CD-R.  The ISO image is 695 MB and the disc says it is a 700 MB disc.  I selected the ISO image in nautilus and "write to disc", but I just keep getting a message telling me to insert a blank disc with at least 695 MB free.
[06:35] <unperson> How do I get this to work correctly?
[06:35] <Dr_Willis> unperson,  could be the disk is bad.. or it dsome how is not seeing the disk change
[06:35] <lgc> _jason, thanks. Let me try that.
[06:36] <unperson> Dr_Willis, You mean it's not seeing me put the disc in?  I think it is, because when I put the blank disk in it pops up on the desktop and the CD/DVD creator pops up.
[06:36] <sixslap> would some one please me how to login as root and how to edit my identd.conf
[06:36] <Xenguy> sixslap: sudo -i
[06:37] <sixslap> ok
[06:37] <Xenguy> sixslap: then you need an editor
[06:37] <unperson> There's also a burn data CD option when the CD/DVD creator dialog, but I'm not sure whether that will burn the ISO image or an ISO image of a filesystem containing the ISO image.
[06:37] <majd> Dr_Willis, i have my router set to allow ports 6881->6890 open for Azureus
[06:37] <sixslap> i have a editor
[06:37] <dstryr> how come i just installed nvidia driver and x still wont start?
[06:37] <sixslap> just din't know how to login as rrot
[06:37] <sixslap> root*
[06:38] <sixslap> <-----verb
[06:38] <intelikey> sixslap  sudo -i    will get you a root shell.
[06:38] <sixslap> ty
[06:38] <Dr_Willis> majd,  i twiddled and set up several ports - i was thinking the azurus docs/tips had links to sites with the exact info. a router with that upnp stuff helps as well
[06:38] <sixslap> one more question
[06:38] <intelikey> ooops...... i think i'm detached from the server....
[06:39] <sixslap> do you have to allow server attemps for identd to work properly
[06:40] <lgc> _jason, bingo! Got it. Thanks! (I still don't get any manual for "int", though). Any clue?
[06:40] <unperson> Ok, if I select "Burn Data CD" when the CD/DVD creator dialog comes up, can I just drag the ISO image file to the window and then select "Burn to Disc"?
[06:40] <_amin> ive succefully installed those win32 codex*.deb and vlc from synaptic. Now how do i use them ? vlc is not yet appeared in Apllications tab on the top left
[06:40] <Dr_Willis> _amin,  run 'vlc' from the command line.
[06:40] <jrattner1> How do I accept a Microsoft help invitation inlinux
[06:41] <Dr_Willis> unperson,  that may just copy the iso image to the disk.. not what you want.
[06:41] <unperson> Dr_Willis, Yes, that was my fear.
[06:41] <knite> jrattner1: uhh...  maybe use remote desktop instead?
[06:41] <cozby> strange why would ubuntu ship with an ol version of FireFox
[06:41] <cozby> how do i update packages
[06:41] <cozby> ?
[06:41] <_amin> Dr_Willis, root@amin:/home/amin# vlc
[06:41] <_amin> bash: vlc: command not found
[06:41] <Dr_Willis> unperson,  i perfer to use k3b
[06:41] <jrattner1> knite, but the invitation is a file
[06:41] <_jason> lgc: I don't get anything for int (I get something but not what you want) so I don't know
[06:41] <knite> cozby: synaptic
[06:41] <dstryr> ok, what is libncurses5-dev?
[06:42] <dstryr> anyone
[06:42] <dstryr> ?
[06:42] <FlannelKing> unperson: usually if your software supports ISO burning, it'll ask if you want to burn the ISO, or just copy th ISO file to the disk.
[06:42] <Dr_Willis> _amin,  dont run it as root for one. :P
[06:42] <cozby> synaptic eh, just apt get it
[06:42] <_amin> Dr_Willis, do you think ive to restart my box ?
[06:42] <ratley> cozby, do you just want to update firefox, or everything?
[06:42] <Dr_Willis> _amin,  no.. just logout/in as a user.
[06:42] <knite> cozby: setup your sources file then
[06:42] <Extreme_Unction> Anyone wanna netplay some Contra 3 on Zsnes?
[06:42] <sixslap> hey i know that one                 sudo apt-get update
[06:42] <cozby> ratley, everything would be nice
[06:43] <sixslap> yay i'm lerning!!!!
[06:43] <FlannelKing> dstryr: it's the development stuff for ncurses (version 5)
[06:43] <cozby> but for now i just need FF updated
[06:43] <_amin> ok brb
[06:43] <Xenguy> dstryr: also needed for 'make menuconfig' IIRC
[06:44] <lgc> _jason. "int" is a C function, as far as I know. But it seems to be the only one missing. Many thanks. Are you available for another consultation?
[06:44] <unperson> FlannelKing, Right, this does not seem to ask any such thing.
[06:44] <ratley> cozby, are you running breezy?
[06:44] <_jason> lgc: sure, just ask the channel though and I'll answer if I know
[06:44] <dstryr> would installing this can cause why X wont start?
[06:44] <unperson> Dr_Willis, Know of any k3b equivalent for Gnome offhand?
[06:44] <unperson> What about X-CD-Roast?
[06:45] <cozby> ratley yup
[06:45] <Xenguy> dstryr: no
[06:45] <knite> dstryr: no, installing libncurses should not affect X
[06:45] <lgc> _jason, excuse my ignorance. How do I do that?
[06:45] <Dr_Willis> unperson,  nope.. ya could always learn how to use the 'cdrecord' command line tool
[06:45] <cozby> jeese synaptic doesn't even give firefox an update option
[06:45] <Dr_Willis> unperson,  its not that hard to use.
[06:45] <cozby> thats ridiculous
[06:45] <Extreme_Unction> cdrecord is good, actually!
[06:45] <Extreme_Unction> Very easy to use.
[06:45] <Madpilot> unperson, gnomebaker?
[06:45] <Extreme_Unction> In most cases it's just.. sudo cdrecord whatever.iso
[06:46] <ratley> cozby, well, run "sudo apt-get update" without the quotes in a terminal
[06:46] <ratley> and then "sudo apt-get upgrade"
[06:46] <_jason> lgc: you don't preface the question with my name :) (most people just ignore messages addressed to others)
[06:46] <dstryr> what's the latest gcc compiler?
[06:46] <cozby> ratley
[06:46] <Extreme_Unction> 4.0
[06:46] <cozby> already did that
[06:46] <ratley> both of those?
[06:46] <cozby> before i ran synaptic too
[06:46] <unperson> Extreme_Unction, Ah.  I thought people seemed to always have all sorts of other options involed and such.
[06:46] <ratley> but you're hoping for firefox 1.5 then?
[06:46] <_jason> lgc: manpages-posix-dev is another package you might want by the way
[06:46] <dstryr> how do i get the 4.0?
[06:46] <cozby> yeah
[06:46] <cozby> 1.5
[06:47] <Extreme_Unction> sudo apt-get install gcc
[06:47] <Extreme_Unction> I believe it installs 4.0
[06:47] <Extreme_Unction> If not, sudo apt-get install gcc-4.0
[06:47] <Extreme_Unction> unperson: There are many options.. Also a blank command.
[06:47] <dstryr> what's the diff between sudo apt-get and sudo aptitude install?
[06:47] <zF> startkeylogger
[06:47] <_jason> dstryr: install build-essential, it will pull in other stuff you need as well
[06:47] <zF> :o
[06:47] <cozby> hm, wait i just did update not upgrade
[06:47] <_jason> zF: not here please
[06:47] <Extreme_Unction> It's just most of the time you can burn it without any options successfully
[06:47] <zF> _jason, sorry... Was just testing :o
[06:48] <frank_> what program do i use to customize the appearance of ubuntu?
[06:48] <dstryr> and what is build essential?
[06:48] <_jason> ubotu: tell frank_ about themes
[06:48] <lgc> _jason, manpages-posix-dev doesn't seem to exist...
[06:48] <_jason> ubotu: tell lgc about multiverse
[06:48] <ratley> cozby, run that first to make sure everything is up to date
[06:49] <cozby> kk
[06:49] <frank_> can somebody tell me how to enable universe'
[06:49] <cozby> just did
[06:49] <_jason> dstryr: it is a meta-pacakge that installs gcc as well as other things you need to compile successfully.  apt-cache show build-essential, for details
[06:49] <_jason> ubotu: tell frank_ about universe
[06:49] <frank_> jason thanks
[06:49] <dstryr> ic
[06:49] <cozby> wow synaptic is kinda nice
[06:49] <cozby> it'd be better if it worked tho
[06:49] <dstryr> coz this dog wont even compile BitchX
[06:50] <cozby> kinda reminds me of QNX package repository
[06:50] <dstryr> kept getting some errors
[06:50] <cozby> in anycase ff 1.5 is no where to be upgrade dor found?!?
[06:50] <Xenguy> dstryr: yes, BX is a dog :p
[06:51] <_jason> cozby: ff1.5 isn't in synaptic because ubuntu makes a stable release every 6 months and provides security updates only
[06:51] <_amin> Dr_Willis, how to find vlc from terminal ?
[06:51] <_jason> ubotu: tell cozby about ff1.5
[06:51] <ratley> _jason, is it available in breezy backports?
[06:51] <Dr_Willis> _amin,  if you installed it. it should be in your default paths
[06:51] <ratley> i'm running dapper and a nightly build...so i honestly have no idea
[06:51] <_jason> ratley: nope, too many packages depend on firefox1.07 so it is too difficult to backport without breaking other things
[06:51] <Dr_Willis> ---> /usr/bin/vlc
[06:51] <ratley> so...easyubuntu or automatix then?
[06:52] <cozby> thanks _jason
[06:52] <Xenguy> _amin: which vlc
[06:52] <Dr_Willis> ratley,  EWW!
[06:52] <Dr_Willis> :P
[06:52] <_amin> yes i installed it from synaptic. i do not know where synaptic would have installed it ?
[06:52] <ratley> Dr_Willis, haha, it would certainly be the "easiest" way
[06:52] <_jason> ratley: easyubuntu won't install firefox 1.5.  Automatix installs it using the wiki method and automatix itself is generally not recommended here
[06:52] <_jason> ubotu: tell ratley about ff1.5
[06:53] <Dr_Willis> _amin,  in the normal paths like i just posted. :P
[06:53] <Dr_Willis> _amin,  or select the package in synaptic and look at the details.
[06:53] <javiolo> _amin maybe you didnt install the gui of vlc
[06:53] <javiolo> if you install it you will have on the menu
[06:54] <_amin> secondly, _jason you asked me to download those win32 codecs for Totem to run songs on my mounted xp partitions, ive downloaded and ran those codecs but still i have same error that Totem does not hav particular gstramer codecs
[06:54] <unperson> To use cdrecord, I need to know the scsi bus,  target, and lun of the cd drive.  What's the easiet way to determine those?
[06:54] <_jason> _amin: did you install totem-xine?
[06:54] <_amin> javiolo, how do i install that gui ?
[06:54] <Dr_Willis> cdrecord --scanbus
[06:54] <majd> would someone be kind enough to show me how to setup my ports for Azureus? i can't figure it out...i went to <IP_ADDRESS> and setup 6880 to 7000 for Azureus and enabled it, but when i test port 6890, i get NAT error...i've read the docs...didn't help
[06:55] <_amin> _jason, no i had totem movie player by defualt
[06:55] <_jason> _amin: install totem-xine, also what are you trying to play exactly?
[06:55] <ratley> cozby, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion does appear to be the "best" way to install a newer version of firefox
[06:55] <_amin> _jason, a normal mp3 format song
[06:55] <_jason> ubotu: tell _amin about mp3
[06:56] <majd> i also tried setting up the ports from 6881 to 6881 (using BOTH as the protocol) and got the NAT error again
[06:56] <Alashua> anyone know if kde comes with a screenshot and where i could find it?
[06:56] <Dr_Willis> majd,  could be ya got some firewall stuff enabled under linux
[06:57] <Q_Continuum> majd: 6881 is often blocked by ISPs now.  Try another port?
[06:57] <Dr_Willis> majd,  i got 6881-7000 forwared to my box.
[06:57] <Keyframe> how can I make fstab reread again without restarting?
[06:57] <_jason> Keyframe: sudo mount -a
[06:57] <_amin> _jason, ive marked totem-xine for installation. Now ..
[06:57] <Keyframe> thx
[06:57] <javiolo> _amin dont remember what package I installed
[06:58] <_jason> _amin: for mp3's I think you'll need to read your private messages
[06:58] <javiolo> but check the ones called vlc
[06:58] <_amin> _jason, om gone with that page many times
[06:58] <_jason> _amin: do your mp3's play now?
[06:58] <_amin> but i always end up confuding myself in reprositoes
[06:58] <Psykus> how do I run the graphical version of nethack? it seemed to install with the standard nethack, but I can't figure out a command to run it
[06:59] <Keyframe> damnit I have mount point like //Krono/Diskor (D)/
[06:59] <_amin> _jason,  now synaptic is installing those marked packages
[06:59] <Keyframe> how do I add that in fstab?
[06:59] <_jason> _amin: ok
[06:59] <Verithrax> How can I change my boot splash screen?
[06:59] <ratley> Psykus, try running nethack-gnome
[06:59] <dstryr> what could be the problem of this: Translation.m:155: invalid character: message ignored
[06:59] <_jason> dstryr: what caused that?
[06:59] <_amin> _jason, after installation how i will be able to see totem-xine as a gui application ?
[06:59] <Keyframe> I've tried like this: "//Kronos/Diskor (D)/" /home/keyframe/Diskor smbfs
[06:59] <Keyframe> but it won't work
[06:59] <majd> Dr_Willis,, Q_Continuum : http://<IP_ADDRESS>/Screenshot.png
[06:59] <_jason> _amin: just run totem as usual
[06:59] <Psykus> ah ok, grabbing it off of apt-get now
[07:00] <majd> oops...http://<IP_ADDRESS>/~majdkgf/Screenshot.png
[07:00] <jrsims> oh my god. everyone should use gnu screen!
[07:00] <slinkidy> Hello everyone
[07:00] <_jason> jrsims: :)
[07:00] <majd> what's gnu screen?
[07:00] <_amin> i also installed and unpacked those codecs yesterday, what would they do good ?
[07:00] <Q_Continuum> what's the IP of the machine you're running that on, majd?  .1 is usually the router in the case of Linksys machines.
[07:01] <_jason> _amin: I don't understand your question
[07:01] <jrsims> ok everyone. right now - sudo apt-get install screen
[07:01] <killua_16> hi
[07:01] <FlannelKing> jrsims: what about it?
[07:01] <majd> Q_Continuum, my ip is totally different
[07:02] <jrsims> FlannelKing: what about it? IT RULES DUDE! check the man page.
[07:02] <majd> 71...
[07:02] <Keyframe> anyone? I have space in mount point.. how should I write that in fstab?
[07:02] <_amin> w32codecs_20050412-0.0_i386.deb how do i use it ?
[07:02] <ratley> majd, yeah, you're forwarding to your router
[07:02] <majd> ratley, is that a bad thing?
[07:02] <FlannelKing> jrsims: I know, I'm on it right now!
[07:02] <Q_Continuum> majd: change the IP for the port forward then to 71.
[07:02] <majd> how do i change it?
[07:02] <jrsims> FlannelKing: good job. it's my first day on screen.
[07:02] <Q_Continuum> change the 1 next to 'enabled' to 71 or whatever your IP is.
[07:02] <majd> but i can't edit the 192.168.1. part
[07:02] <_jason> _amin: sudo dpkg -i /path/to/w32codecs_20050412-0.0_i386.deb
[07:02] <FlannelKing> jrsims: grin, I've had four ;)
[07:02] <majd> would it pose a security thread if i pasted my ip?
[07:03] <majd> here
[07:03] <Q_Continuum> you have to be on the same network as it, so you'll have to set your machine to 192.168.1.x
[07:03] <Xenguy> jrsims: screen is indispensible :-)
[07:03] <_jason> majd: no since we can all figure it out
[07:03] <jrsims> FlannelKing: yeah, maybe I don't need to install an window manager now. :)
[07:03] <_amin> done. now whats the funtion of that file ?
[07:03] <majd> this is my ip: <IP_ADDRESS>   so i should set it to <IP_ADDRESS>.65.19.97 ? (that doesn't make sense
[07:03] <Q_Continuum> no
[07:03] <Psykus> what is screen?
[07:04] <FlannelKing> jrsims: laugh, I'd go with ... um, damn.    You are behind a router, so you've got your own, different IP.
[07:05] <Keyframe> how can I have spaces in fstab mount point? :/
[07:05] <Q_Continuum> majd: whatever the last octet (x.x.x.XXX) is what we want.
[07:05] <cafuego> Keyframe: file\ with \ spaces
[07:05] <majd> i see
[07:05] <FlannelKing> majd: you've got a subnet IP, probably starts around 100
[07:05] <majd> can i paste this info here?
[07:05] <cafuego> Keyframe: escape 'em with backslashes
[07:05] <Q_Continuum> sure.  we can't get past the router anyway.
[07:05] <FlannelKing> majd: it's how the router tells everyone apart
[07:05] <Q_Continuum> doesn't matter though.
[07:05] <_amin> _jason, NO totem-xine not there. There is only the old one 'Totem Movie PLayer'
[07:05] <majd> inet addr:<IP_ADDRESS>  Bcast:<IP_ADDRESS>  Mask:<IP_ADDRESS>
[07:05] <Keyframe> ok, lemme try it - thanks
[07:05] <FlannelKing> you're 102 then
[07:05] <majd> so i need to put in 102 for the value?
[07:05] <majd> ok
[07:05] <Xenguy> Psykus: and if the connection crashes, you just re-connect and start where you left off
[07:05] <_jason> _amin: that's the one, it replaces your old one
[07:06] <_amin> do want me to logou/in ?
[07:06] <Q_Continuum> majd: so put 102 in the box where it currently has the 1
[07:06] <Q_Continuum> then tell it to save
[07:06] <majd> Testing port 7000 ... OK !
[07:06] <majd> WOOO
[07:06] <majd> thanks a lot guys
[07:06] <frank_> is there anyway to change the contrast and brightness in ubuntu?
[07:06] <Q_Continuum> that's telling the router "when I get data incoming on the ports between 6881 and 7000, forward to THIS machine on the other side, the protected, LAN side."
[07:06] <dstryr> (WW) Open APM failed (/dev/apm_bios) (No such file or directory)
[07:06] <cafuego> frank_: Use the controls on your monitor
[07:06] <dstryr> any ideas?
[07:06] <Xenguy> Psykus: or you 'detach', go to another PC, and re-connect the same session (etc :-)
[07:06] <cafuego> dstryr: (WW) can be ignored.
[07:06] <frank_> im on a laptop
[07:07] <frank_> theres only brightness
[07:07] <majd> Q_Continuum, oh i see....thanks for the information and the help..
[07:07] <cafuego> dstryr: There is not a problem if lines start with (EE)
[07:07] <FlannelKing> Psykus: you can even do split screen stuff, and tons of other things
[07:07] <Q_Continuum> majd: not a problem, glad to help.
[07:07] <Keyframe> cafuego: hmmm.. how exactly? if mount point is //Krono/Diskor (D)/ .. should I write //Krono/Diskor\\(D) ?
[07:07] <frank_> i was just wondering to see if it was like windows where you can go to properties and mess around with the settings there
[07:07] <majd> ok...now it says firewalled lol
[07:07] <dstryr> but that's WW though
[07:07] <cafuego> dstryr: ONLY  aproblem if lines start with (EE)
[07:07] <dstryr> how to install that font really
[07:07] <cozby> appreciate the help FF is updated
[07:07] <slinkidy> Hey everyone, I'm installing ubuntu on my old desktop lol, This is my first time ever using it, wish me luck :p
[07:07] <cafuego> Keyframe: You might need to escape those brackets too
[07:08] <cafuego> /krono/Diskor\ \(D\)/
[07:08] <_amin> _jason, Totem could not play 'file:///media/hda5/Music/English/Micheal buble/Micheal Buble - come fly with me.mp3'.  Audio codec 'MPEG 1 Layer 3 CBR' is not handled. You might need to install additional plugins to be able to play some types of movies
[07:08] <cafuego> Or give the share a useful name in Windows, then try again.
[07:08] <Q_Continuum> firewalled on what, majd?
[07:08] <_jason> _amin: 'sudo apt-get install  gstreamer0.8-mad' in a terminal
[07:08] <Q_Continuum> DHT?  that's common, usually it's just because you're not actually talking to anyone.
[07:08] <Q_Continuum> as long as NAT is green, you're good.
[07:08] <Psykus> come flyyyy with me...
[07:08] <Vylar1978> xen is there any way to mount the flopy and make it permininate
[07:09] <cafuego> _amin: Yes, Michael Buble would make your CPU crash.
[07:09] <dli> is alsa installed by default ubuntu-desktop?
[07:09] <red> hey all
[07:09] <dreamy> hi all
[07:09] <dreamy> help me
[07:09] <_jason> !helpme
[07:09] <ubotu> If you don't actually ask a question, we can not actually help you.
[07:09] <majd> Q_Continuum, NAT used to be red, after i fixed it, just says Firewalled
[07:09] <dreamy> =)
[07:09] <red> what's a shell command for the last time a file was modified? or created?
[07:10] <Q_Continuum> what port are you using right now (for Azureus?)
[07:10] <red> anyone ...
[07:10] <_jason> red: stat maybe
[07:10] <dreamy> how to register in windows nt domain???????????
[07:10] <lgc> _jason laugh at me: I thought this "ubotu" was a real guy inviting me over to a private chat! (After many mechanical answers on "his" part I asked if he did little girls, and "he" responded "Syntax error").
[07:10] <curley_sue> #fluxbox
[07:10] <cafuego> red: 'man ls' See the time format and list options.
[07:10] <_jason> lgc: ha
[07:10] <majd> Q_Continuum, 7000
[07:10] <Q_Continuum> majd: I'd change the port to something in the 49,000 range, something random works, change it in Azureus then also in the Linksys router.  Most of those don't get blocked up there.
[07:10] <Psykus> red, ls -l (file) I think
[07:10] <lgc> _jason, life sucks!
[07:10] <dreamy> is ubuntu work with windows domains?
[07:11] <red> _jason: yeah ... it's  a start ... but I wonder if there is a command that spits out a response "5 minutes"
[07:11] <Psykus> will show last modified I think
[07:11] <nicholaspaul> dreamy: huh??
[07:11] <_jason> red: man stat
[07:11] <SardoPsycho> hey gang...gotta question about video codecs - anyone know where I can get and how to install the XVID codec to work with either Totem or RealPlayer10?
[07:12] <dreamy> im work at factory with 200 komputers
[07:12] <_amin> _jason, done kthx
[07:12] <Keyframe> cafuego: I appriciate it.. but it doesn't work.. since actuall mount point is //Krono/Diskor (D)/ .. I tried with //Krono/Diskor\ \(D\)/ .. but all I get is mount point \(D\)/ does not exist
[07:12] <dreamy> we want to cange windows on linux
[07:12] <jiangguowei> jiangguowei@ubuntu-jiang:~$ gpg --clearsign ~/ubuntu-coc.txt.
[07:12] <jiangguowei> gpg: directory `/home/jiangguowei/.gnupg' created
[07:12] <jiangguowei> gpg: new configuration file `/home/jiangguowei/.gnupg/gpg.conf' created
[07:12] <jiangguowei> gpg: WARNING: options in `/home/jiangguowei/.gnupg/gpg.conf' are not yet active during this run
[07:12] <red> Yeah, it shows last modified ... but I don't want to have to process this. Would prefer to go COMMAND "file" ... if output > 10 minutes then do something ...
[07:12] <majd> Q_Continuum,  http://<IP_ADDRESS>/~majdkgf/Screenshot.png
[07:12] <jiangguowei> gpg: keyring `/home/jiangguowei/.gnupg/secring.gpg' created
[07:12] <_jason> _amin: do your mp3's play now?
[07:12] <Q_Continuum> majd: I'm running off for food, I'll be back at some point.  I know there's some more info on the Azureus homepage/wiki on how to resolve that issue, if you continue to get stuck.
[07:12] <jiangguowei> gpg: keyring `/home/jiangguowei/.gnupg/pubring.gpg' created
[07:12] <jiangguowei> gpg: no default secret key: secret key not available
[07:12] <jiangguowei> gpg: /home/jiangguowei/ubuntu-coc.txt.: clearsign failed: secret key not availab le
[07:12] <_jason> jiangguowei: please use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/
[07:12] <majd> ok
[07:12] <jiangguowei> How should I do?
[07:12] <majd> thank you
[07:12] <Psykus> haha, looks like a weird kind of emoticon
[07:13] <Psykus> \(D\)/
[07:13] <_amin> _jason, yes they do. I also installed VLC from synaptic, where to run VLC from now ?
[07:13] <lgc> _jason, anyway, I don't know how you pulled that fine trick on me. But back to the subject, if Ideb http://mx.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary universe multiverse" it will do? do something like "
[07:13] <jiangguowei> _jason:sorry
[07:13] <Psykus> some sort of creature raising its hands up
[07:13] <_jason> jiangguowei: http://www.dewinter.com/gnupg_howto/english/GPGMiniHowto.html
[07:13] <_jason> _amin: it should be in sound and video > vlc, if not do 'killall gnome-panel'
[07:14] <nicholaspaul> I cant get audio working on ppc laptop but have no idea where to start problem solving..what should i check first?
[07:14] <dstryr> .
[07:14] <_jason> lgc: yes, as long as you are indeed using hoary
[07:14] <Vylar1978> Can you mount the cd rom
[07:15] <Vylar1978> like you do the floppy drive
[07:15] <dstryr> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9664, what's the problem with this? im trying to start x, i installed every drivers, etc
[07:15] <lgc> _jason, indeed (I'll wait till April for the next Ubuntu. By the way, can I skip Breezy all along, or do I have to update to it in order to update to the next one?)
[07:15] <ge_ge> hello
[07:16] <Vylar1978> Hi
[07:16] <_jason> lgc: I've heard mixed results with warty --> breezy.  I've mostly seen people say it is safe though.  Personally, I would update in steps
[07:16] <slinkidy> hi
[07:16] <ge_ge> can i join?
[07:16] <Xenguy> Vylar1978: sure: mount -t iso9660 /dev/cdrom /cdrom
[07:16] <_jason> ge_ge: you're in
[07:16] <saim> can i join
[07:16] <dstryr> _jason
[07:16] <dstryr> any idea?
[07:17] <_jason> !ask
[07:17] <ge_ge> ohh thnx
[07:17] <dstryr> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9664, what's the problem with this? im trying to start x, i installed every drivers, etc
[07:17] <_amin> _jason, i am re-installing vnc from synaptic
[07:17] <Xenguy> Vylar1978: (assuming /cdrom exists)
[07:17] <lgc> _jason, and how safe are my files during the update?
[07:17] <saim> what is this all about??
[07:17] <TheCrowX> Thanx for all everyone :)
[07:17] <_jason> _amin: ok, you shouldn't have to
[07:17] <jambon> um
[07:17] <_jason> saim: /topic
[07:17] <Xenguy> saim: /topic
[07:17] <jambon> i just killed xserver by trying to instlal xgl
[07:17] <jambon> and i don'tknow how to get out of it
[07:17] <_amin> _jason,  sudo apt-get install  gstreamer0.8-mad
[07:17] <jambon> anyone help?
[07:17] <_amin>   <==-- what did this command do ?
[07:17] <jambon> text browser?
[07:18] <_jason> _amin: it installs gstreamer0.8-mad just like if you had done it with synaptic
[07:18] <ge_ge> naay tga san juan dri?
[07:18] <student> sai. answer mo daw and exercise na nasa board.
[07:18] <dstryr> what you think _jason?
[07:18] <_jason> lgc: I can't really say I know much about that
[07:18] <nicholaspaul> When i open a wav in Totem, i cant hear it. Which alsa files do i need?
[07:18] <jiangguowei> _jason:I have read it carefully,but it doesn't tell me how  I deal with this error
[07:19] <student>  Sai answer mo daw and exercise na nasa board
[07:19] <_amin> _jason, from which directory it fetched the gstreamer0-8-mad ?
[07:19] <FlannelKing> jambon: what about text browser?
[07:19] <_jason> dstryr: I don't know, dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg maybe let you get back to X and start over though
[07:19] <_jason> dstryr: s/maybe/may
[07:19] <_jason> _amin: online
[07:19] <student>  Sai answer mo daw and exercise na nasa board
[07:19] <student>  Sai answer mo daw and exercise na nasa board
[07:19] <student>  Sai answer mo daw and exercise na nasa board
[07:20] <student>  Sai answer mo daw and exercise na nasa board
[07:20] <student>  Sai answer mo daw and exercise na nasa board
[07:20] <dstryr> i did
[07:20] <_jason> jiangguowei: seems like you haven't created/selected your private key
[07:20] <dstryr> kept getting the same error
[07:20] <student>  Sai answer mo daw ang exercise na nasa board
[07:20] <_jason> student: please don't repeat
[07:20] <dstryr> should i remove my vidcard and use my integrated one?
[07:20] <student> Sai answer mo daw ang exercise na nasa board
[07:20] <ge_ge> whats wrong with u student
[07:20] <FlannelKing> student: if you're going to repeat, at least make it coherent, or intersting.
[07:21] <Madpilot> student, English please
[07:21] <dstryr> word
[07:21] <dstryr> and yeah _jason, would that help?
[07:21] <_jason> dstryr: I don't really know what's going on there to be honest with you
[07:21] <jiangguowei> _jason : launchpad.net/faq only told me to sing the ubuntu code of conduct.How can I  creat/select my private key.
[07:21] <Keyframe> this is so retarded.. fstab can't accept spaces in mount points, and windows does not allow me to change share name of the drive
[07:21] <_amin> _jason, i am running mp3 by right click 'open with another application' and then selecting realplayer, how to get realplayer in GNU Apllications tab ?
[07:22] <_jason> jiangguowei: read the tutorial I linked you to, it explains it very nicely
[07:22] <jiangguowei> _jason: ok.I will read it.Many thanks!
[07:22] <_jason> _amin: what is 'GNU applications tab'?
[07:23] <fompon> is installing parts of kde to run kde based applications going to slow down my system?
[07:23] <_jason> fompon: depends on your system, mine runs fine with 512mb and 1600mhz for your reference
[07:23] <FlannelKing> fompon: installing them? no.  it'll just take up HD space
[07:23] <student> Sai answer mo daw ang exercise na nasa board
[07:23] <Xenguy> fompon: I've never noticed a problem
[07:23] <fompon> cool
[07:23] <_amin> _jason, the one from which i opened totem movie player from SOUND AND VIDEO (top left )
[07:23] <fompon> thanks guys
[07:23] <jrsims> hey, I can't seem to find mysql on apt. what name is it under?
[07:24] <FlannelKing> student: awas ylasu myusp wbeusk isc ciw wum
[07:24] <_jason> _amin: go to system tools > application menu editor and add a new shortcut for it
[07:24] <Xenguy> jrsims: apt-cache search mysql
[07:24] <jrsims> Xenguy: k
[07:24] <_amin> _jason, i donot know in which directory realplayer is installed in /home ive only it .deb file
[07:25] <_jason> _amin: how do you run realplayer?
[07:25] <ge_ge> toink wla ,may agany diri
[07:25] <_amin> right click on the mp3 and then 'open with '
[07:25] <dstryr> FIXED.
[07:25] <_jason> _amin: try 'which realplayer' in a terminal
[07:25] <dstryr> X IR F'in running
[07:25] <dstryr> :D
[07:25] <dstryr> :D
[07:25] <_jason> dstryr: what did you end up doing?
[07:26] <dstryr> i had to mess with the PCI stuff
[07:26] <Madpilot> !enter
[07:26] <ubotu> please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and is annoying. Write in complete sentences and keep your replies and questions on one line if possible. Thanks!
[07:26] <dstryr> lke the PCI:0:1:0
[07:26] <basti> !mp3
[07:26] <ubotu> hmm... mp3 is a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[07:26] <dstryr> you kno what im talkin bout
[07:26] <_amin> _jason, nothing appeared after that command
[07:27] <dstryr> it was set to PCI:0:0:1
[07:27] <student> Sai answer mo daw ang exercise na nasa board
[07:27] <_jason> _amin: type real and press <tab>, anything happen?
[07:27] <dstryr> but my device is PCI:1:3:0
[07:27] <dstryr> :D
[07:27] <_jason> anyone know the command for realplayer?
[07:27] <ech0> does ubuntu have good sata support?
[07:27] <student> Sai answer mo daw ang exercise na nasa board
[07:27] <jambon> FlannelKing: the site doesn't support text browsing
[07:27] <student> Sai answer mo daw ang exercise na nasa board
[07:27] <student> Sai answer mo daw ang exercise na nasa board
[07:27] <_jason> student: no one understand what you are saying
[07:27] <dstryr> student?
[07:28] <dstryr> i do understand what he was saying
[07:28] <FlannelKing> jambon: uh, which site?
[07:28] <_jason> oh ok, I was wrong then
[07:28] <_amin> _jason, realplay            realvncpasswd       realvncserver
[07:28] <_amin> realvncconnect      realvncpasswd.real
[07:29] <_jason> _amin: ok, type 'realplay' and make sure that open up realplayer.  If it does, type 'which realplay' and use that as the command in your menu shortcut
[07:29] <jambon> FlannelKing: ubuntu wiki
[07:29] <nicholaspaul> anyone got ALSA drivers for Powerbook?
[07:29] <nicholaspaul> - or know where i can get em?
[07:30] <dstryr> it feels good when you've solved your own problem man
[07:30] <dstryr> :D
[07:30] <jiangguowei> _jason:i have solved my problem under your help.Thanks!  :)
[07:30] <_jason> jiangguowei: cool
[07:30] <ge_ge> i dont like this
[07:30] <ge_ge> shittttttttt
[07:30] <FlannelKing> jambon does it really?  Eh, I don't seem to have much of a problem.  What page specifically?
[07:30] <derek_57hgf> hello
[07:30] <nicholaspaul> hi derek_57hgf
[07:31] <derek_57hgf> hows it goin
[07:31] <FlannelKing> ge_ge: watch your language; "this doesn't work" usually isn't a good method of getting help
[07:31] <ge_ge> well actually im not after on ur help
[07:31] <Madpilot> ech0, my only HD is SATA, I've never had any trouble with it & Ubuntu
[07:31] <slinkidy> Hey guys, I have a question. I'm tryin to install ubuntu onto my old desktop but while installing the base system, it says that the kernal-linux 366 (i think, i restarted) any suggestions on what to do to solve this?
[07:32] <nicholaspaul> This is the official support channel, ge_ge
[07:32] <derek_57hgf> does anyonw know how to get sound working on quake 3?I am running breezy 32 bit.
[07:32] <dli> how to get dialup from the installation cd?
[07:32] <nicholaspaul> slinkidy: what do you need solving?
[07:32] <dstryr> ok
[07:33] <slinkidy> it says it has failed to install, sorry i wasn't paying attention lol
[07:33] <dstryr> what's this: it says: Internal error - failed to initialize HAL!
[07:33] <dstryr> ?
[07:33] <nicholaspaul> slinkidy: hard to say. It could be a conflict with hardware (one possibility i've heard of). noting the errors would really help :)
[07:33] <slinkidy> is it a corrupt cd or should i just restart and try again?
[07:33] <ge_ge> i cant even chat on my friends\
[07:33] <derek_57hgf> has anyone gotten quaje 3 to work on ubuntu?
[07:33] <slinkidy> one sec, i'll see if it comes up again
[07:34] <ge_ge> this network is so disgusting
[07:34] <derek_57hgf> quake*
[07:34] <Syns> what is .asx?
[07:34] <Syns> realplayer wont work with it
[07:34] <FlannelKing> Syns: microsoft audio stream something or other
[07:34] <_jason> Syns: usually windows media
[07:34] <nicholaspaul> slinkidy:  I've had probs like that with corrupt discs, yea.
[07:34] <Madpilot> ge_ge, if you register you can chat on Freenode
[07:34] <Madpilot> !tell ge_ge about register
[07:35] <Syns> is there nothing i can use to play it?
[07:35] <dstryr> perfect. now i have to fix the gcc stuff
[07:35] <Syns> no workaround?
[07:35] <dstryr> it wont compile anything
[07:35] <jetscreamer> derek_57hgf: if nvidia you'll probably need the nvidia-binary
[07:35] <ge_ge> ok
[07:35] <derek_57hgf> oh
[07:35] <FlannelKing> Syns: read the asx file in a text editor, see what the actual stream is
[07:35] <derek_57hgf> thanks jetscreamer
[07:35] <slinkidy> an error was returned while trying to instal the kernel into the target system.    kernel package:  Linux-386    Check /target/var/log/bootstrap.log for details
[07:35] <themuffenmann> dstryr, are you in need of a c++ compiler?
[07:35] <dstryr> feels like im using MacOSX
[07:36] <SardoPsycho> hey gang...gotta question about video codecs - anyone know where I can get and how to install the XVID codec to work with either Totem or RealPlayer10?
[07:36] <Vylar1978>  Ok Good night for now
[07:36] <derek_57hgf> jetscreamer: you the same person that hangs out in #debian?
[07:36] <Vylar1978> Thanks for the Lessons on Linux yall see you tomorrow
[07:36] <jetscreamer> yes
[07:36] <dstryr> took me like 3 days to start X
[07:36] <dstryr> dang
[07:36] <jetscreamer> derek_57hgf: are you the bot guy?
[07:37] <derek_57hgf> no
[07:37] <carlk> anyone know how many different users have logged into this channel in the last year?
[07:37] <_jason> SardoPsycho: I think installing totem-xine (enable universe and use synaptic) and w32codecs (see bot link) will work
[07:37] <derek_57hgf> i am derek the great
[07:37] <jetscreamer> ah
[07:37] <_jason> ubotu: tell SardoPsycho about universe
[07:37] <_jason> ubotu: tell SardoPsycho about w32codecs
[07:37] <Syns> says the player doesnt have the compatibilities to play it, but doesnt say what those compatibilities are
[07:37] <derek_57hgf> mplayer will prolly play it
[07:38] <derek_57hgf> if you ge tthe codecs for it
[07:38] <FlannelKing> Syns what's the filetype of the actual stream?
[07:38] <carlk> xchat just got pulled from the default install - I think that is a bad thing, but not sure how to measure the use of it
[07:38] <_amin> _jason,  whats the difference between gnome and gtk+ ?
[07:38] <Syns> u know what, mplayer has always been a bitch for me
[07:38] <_jason> Syns: install w32codecs and use mplayer
[07:38] <Syns> .asx
[07:38] <_jason> Syns: totem-xine might work too with w32codecs
[07:38] <Syns> its a stream
[07:38] <Syns> ill take my chances with mplayer..
[07:38] <Syns> totem NEVER works
[07:38] <Madpilot> carlk, Freenode might keep stats like that - maybe ask on #freenode?
[07:38] <Syns> not even with cds
[07:39] <derek_57hgf> cya
[07:39] <_jason> _amin: gnome is the desktop environment and gtk is the gimp toolkit (how your windows are constructed basically)
[07:39] <FlannelKing> carlk: so, there's no IRC client installed in base ubuntu anymore?
[07:39] <pinpoint> if one removes a lib file and errors emerge  whats the best way to fix?
[07:39] <_0331_USMC> Can someone help direct me to a site where I can learn to network my computers together?  I want to have a server for files/web testing that I can use with my windows and linux box's
[07:39] <carlk> FlannelKing: basically - there is gaim
[07:39] <_jason> pinpoint: unremove the lib file?
[07:40] <pinpoint> unremove?
[07:40] <_jason> pinpoint: reinstall
[07:40] <Syns> w32codes is not availible but is referred to by another package?
[07:40] <FlannelKing> carlk: psh, that's a bad choice, if you ask me.  Of course, who am I? heh.
[07:40] <_jason> ubotu: tell Syns about w32codecs
[07:40] <Madpilot> Syns, you need to install w32codecs seperatly
[07:40] <me2win> !w32codecs
[07:40] <ubotu> methinks w32codecs is a compilation of binary win32 A/V codecs for many popular proprietary formats not currently supported by free implementations under linux. See http://tinyurl.com/e4a5s to install
[07:40] <pinpoint> as in reinstall ubuntu?
[07:40] <_jason> pinpoint: no, reinstall the lib
[07:40] <carlk> FlannelKing: I agree.  but you me and 5 or 10 others isn't quite enough
[07:41] <jambon> FlannelKing: sorry, i'm hopping between #xgl and here.
[07:41] <p4t> i have a problem in connecting websites
[07:41] <jambon> i got to the page
[07:41] <jambon> just more problems pop upo
[07:41] <p4t> and i dont know how to fix it
[07:41] <themuffenmann> p4t..explain you issue
[07:41] <p4t> i just installed the tor last day
[07:41] <p4t> a day before yesterday
[07:42] <p4t> then it worked
[07:42] <SardoPsycho>  ok..I have downloaded and installed the codecs, but the xvid files are still not playing in totem or RealPlayer
[07:42] <p4t> but yesterday
[07:42] <Madpilot> !enter
[07:42] <ubotu> please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and is annoying. Write in complete sentences and keep your replies and questions on one line if possible. Thanks!
[07:42] <p4t> it started its error so i decided to uninstalled the tor privoxy this morning
[07:42] <FlannelKing> carlk: found your answer.
[07:42] <FlannelKing> !ubotu seen
[07:42] <FlannelKing> aww, well, do it.
[07:42] <p4t> but i cant still connect to websites
[07:42] <FlannelKing> He tells you how many entries he has in seen
[07:43] <pinpoint> _jason, sudo apt-get update?
[07:43] <FlannelKing> carlk: so, you can check out ubotus database.  And then add a bunch for all the people who log on as "ubuntu"
[07:43] <carlk> cool - thanks
[07:43] <FlannelKing> 18383
[07:43] <Madpilot> FlannelKing, "18383 seen entries that I know of" - wow - we'll have to ask cafuego how far back the bot keeps logs
[07:43] <themuffenmann> any experienced C++ programmers with any good ideas for a program? im kinda bored at the moment
[07:43] <carlk> #freenode was read-only :)
[07:44] <_jason> pinpoint: maybe you should provide more details about your problem
[07:44] <SardoPsycho> Anyone?  I went to the link you provided about the w32 codecs, downloaded it, went into the terminal, and installed it as per the instructions - there were no errors - but my xvid files are still not playing in totem or RealPlayer.....
[07:44] <pinpoint> SardoPsycho, try xine?
[07:44] <FlannelKing> carlk: so, yeah, get ahold of cafuego, he can probably dump a log or db on you, or whatnot.  at least some stats.
[07:44] <pinpoint> mine work good
[07:44] <carlk> !ubotu seen
[07:44] <SardoPsycho> pinpoint - xine???
[07:44] <pinpoint> yeah
[07:44] <_jason> SardoPsycho: did you install totem-xine as well?
[07:45] <SardoPsycho> didn't receive instructions for that
[07:45] <SardoPsycho> how do I nab that packagge?
[07:45] <_jason> SardoPsycho: enable universe and install totem-xine
[07:45] <SardoPsycho> ok..next dumb question...how do I enable universe?
[07:45] <FlannelKing> carlk: but, considering theres 18K+ people here, and 76K people on the forums, I'd say this is a pretty signifigant source of dialog
[07:45] <_jason> SardoPsycho: check your private messages
[07:45] <carlk> agreed
[07:45] <FlannelKing> well, carlk, you'll want to check out kubuntu and all those other channels too
[07:45] <mylo> xvid ? i'd suggest use vlc instead of totem
[07:45] <carlk> ohh, good one
[07:46] <FlannelKing> of course, there's probably a lot of overlap, but, for the sake of keeping xchat in default ubuntu, a little number inflation never hurt anyone ;)
[07:46] <Madpilot> FlannelKing & carlk, the bot's seen works across all the channels it's in - so here, #kubuntu, #ubuntu-offtopic, etc etc
[07:47] <carlk> I just noticed that
[07:48] <SardoPsycho> installing now....let's see what blows up lol
[07:48] <glock_> can anyone help me install videocard drivers im having a hard time... msg me
[07:48] <glock_> trying to update these nvidia drivers
[07:48] <L> Good Moring People
[07:48] <L> me to
[07:48] <frank_> o.k im new to ubuntu installed it everything works of the bat except my built in media reader on my laptop how can i fix this
[07:49] <Madpilot> glock_, have you seen the wiki's nvidia howto?
[07:49] <FlannelKing> carlk: Ive had tons more luck here than the forums.  Heh, you can reference my unanswered/unsolved threads ;) "flannel" username
[07:49] <_amin> _jason, ive installed GNOME Radio from Add Applications. Now when i ioen it i receive an error: Could not open device "/dev/radio" !
[07:49] <_amin> Check your Settings and make sure that no other
[07:49] <_amin> program is using /dev/radio.
[07:49] <_amin> Make also sure that you have read-access to it.
[07:49] <FlannelKing> carlk: alright, two of them.  But still.
[07:49] <L> if u Look at http://easylinux.info/wiki/Ubuntu#How_to_install_Graphics_Driver_.28NVIDIA.29
[07:50] <_jason> _amin: I have no idea about gnome radio
[07:50] <jiangguowei> _jason:After I paste ubuntu-coc.txt.asc file in launchpad.net.it told me that an error occured:No public key.
[07:50] <SardoPsycho> OK......one snag _jason.....I installed totem-xine, the w32codecs, no errors, however, I now get video, but absolutely no sound
[07:50] <_amin> _jason, what seems to be the error ?
[07:50] <_amin> how do i know if other application is using /dev/radio ?
[07:50] <jambon> ya, so if ANYONE knows a lot about xgl andis willing to help me out of text mode, hop over to #xgl. please
[07:50] <_jason> _amin: /dev/radio probably does not exist
[07:51] <Madpilot> jiangguowei, you need to upload your public key, make sure Launchpad knows about it - there should be instructions on the launchpad site
[07:51] <_jason> ubotu: tell SardoPsycho about multimedia
[07:51] <_jason> SardoPsycho: if after installing those things it still doesn't work then use vlc or mplayer
[07:51] <SardoPsycho> kk...trying those now
[07:51] <_amin> _jason, ive a Bluetooth builtin in my laptop how can i use/transffer files from other BlueTooth enabled devices ?
[07:52] <_jason> _amin: I don't know, you are better off addressing the channel
[07:53] <_amin> Can anyone help me ? Ive a Bluetooth builtin in my laptop how can i use/transffer files from other BlueTooth enabled devices ?
[07:53] <carlk> FlannelKing: I dont think the xchat thing needs to be comparid to other things, other than "how much overall gain" does it provide
[07:54] <jiangguowei> Madpilot:I see.I will try to upload my OpenPGP key first
[07:54] <Madpilot> !tell jiangguowei about gpg
[07:54] <lgc> _jason, nalioth_zZz (or rather ZZZZZZ), thanks. Ill call it a night just now. Till later. Adios, amigos!
[07:54] <FlannelKing> carlk: grin, I know.  Im just tired, tend to ramble.  But, it's definately a huge help, things get resolved here so much quicker than in the forums.
[07:55] <sambagirl> does ubuntu run on the Pegasos?
[07:55] <sambagirl> does ubuntu run on the Pegasos ] [ ?
[07:55] <bitox> will ubuntu 6.04 when released have kde 3.5 and the latest gnome 1.4?
[07:55] <bitox> and will it support Xgl?
[07:55] <carlk> sambagirl: is that an old Mac?
[07:55] <sambagirl> no
[07:56] <sambagirl> that is a cross between amiga and mac i suppose mostly.  Guru Meditation Error
[07:56] <fabbione> startkeylogger
[07:56] <fabbione> stopkeylogger
[07:56] <fabbione> ops--
[07:56] <fabbione> -ECHAN
[07:56] <fabbione> sorry
[07:56] <bitox> ?
[07:56] <sambagirl> it uses the ibm chip
[07:56] <Redth> i'm having problems seemingly getting opengl and glut installed on breezy.. i need the devel packages...  it's not finding GL/gl.h even when i compile with -lGL
[07:56] <L> Good moring
[07:57] <Korimyr> Might someone help me? I'm attempting to use the Ubuntu Live Boot to test to see whether or not I want to install it permanently-- but the boot process locks up when it attempts to load the desktop. I end up with a blank screen and wholly unresponsive controls.
[07:57] <fabbione> Madpilot: dude.. easy.. eh?
[07:57] <Madpilot> fabbione, that's not a stunt likely to work much on this channel, but it shouldn't be encourage...
[07:58] <fabbione> Madpilot: dude.. 2 things.. one if i say ECHAN i mean it
[07:58] <fabbione> Madpilot: kicking developers for a mistake is not nice.. or should we start kicking users because they do PEBCAK ?
[07:59] <sambagirl> http://www.pegasosppc.com/
[07:59] <Madpilot> fabbione, I saw the log stuff before I noticed the nick, TBH.
[07:59] <kuja> Kicking people cause they're stupid is not nice. Kicking people cause they're ignorant is acceptable.
[07:59] <fabbione> Madpilot: well pay attention next time.
[08:00] <carlk> fabbione: what is ECHAN?
[08:00] <dli> how to get dialup from the installation cd?
[08:00] <sambagirl> carlk http://www.pegasosppc.com/
[08:00] <fabbione> carlk: when you type something in the wrong window or channel
[08:00] <carlk> sambagirl: thanks
[08:01] <carlk> fabbione: also thanks
[08:01] <fabbione> carlk: no problem :)
[08:01] <xstation> hey
[08:01] <carlk> Korimyr: there are some ways to dumb down the Live Cd...  know what I am talking about?
[08:01] <curley_sue> hi, does anybody knows how to find the "name" of fn+F5 and how to assign it to suspend function in fluxbox?
[08:02] <sambagirl> does ubuntu run on say a Iris sgi computer?
[08:02] <Korimyr> carlk: Only vaguely. You mean disable certain troublesome features?
[08:02] <viviersf> sambagirl, erm what cpu arch would that use ?
[08:03] <xstation> running a install script and nedd openssl but its installed and the script I am running cannot find it as gives this message --Please get OpenSSL 0.9.6l or greater from http://www.openssl.org/
[08:03] <carlk> Korimyr: correct - you type some things at the boot: prompt
[08:03] <carlk> Korimyr: it has been a few months, I think there is a boot: prompt at the very begginging
[08:04] <carlk> Korimyr: it shold say something like "hit F2 for options"
[08:04] <Korimyr> carlk: Yes, there is. But I don't know what it is I should disable. Would switching back to my factory video card help?
[08:05] <jiangguowei> Madpilot:After I upload my OpenPGP key , it told me that Launchpad could not import your OpenPGP key.
[08:05] <jiangguowei> HTTP Error 500: OK at http://keyserver.ubuntu.com:11371/pks/lookup?search=0x03697E5F&op=get
[08:05] <carlk> Korimyr: maybe, but before you start messing with hardware, try some of the options
[08:06] <sambagirl> http://tinyurl.com/l9zkc
[08:06] <carlk> Korimyr: typical problems are: power save modes, weird USB
[08:06] <sambagirl> that is the url for the sgi
[08:06] <sambagirl> http://tinyurl.com/l9zkc
[08:06] <curley_sue> hi, does anybody knows how to find the "name" of fn+F5 and how to assign it to suspend function in fluxbox?
[08:06] <carlk> Korimyr: course you did describe a video problem, so that boots the likelyness of a vid card problem
[08:07] <jiangguowei> root@ubuntu-jiang:/home/jiangguowei# gpg --send-keys
[08:07] <jiangguowei> root@ubuntu-jiang:/home/jiangguowei# gpg --send-keys
[08:07] <jiangguowei> .No any return.Is something wrong with sending keys?
[08:07] <carlk> sambagirl: there is Ubuntu for PowerPC, so the Pegasus should fly
[08:08] <Korimyr> carlk: Weird USB might be the problem. It finds FireWire when looking for Ethernet... and I don't actually have one.
[08:09] <Korimyr> carlk: Very likely my next question, once I get it working at all.
[08:09] <carlk> sambagirl: "UNIT DOES NOT POWER ON." will probably be a problem :)
[08:10] <Madpilot> jiangguowei, have a read through "man gpg" - it's been a while since I uploaded my key, I can't remember the procedure
[08:10] <Madpilot> jiangguowei, I suspect you need more arguements with that gpg --send-keys command
[08:10] <pablux> hola
[08:11] <pablux> desde madrid
[08:11] <ech0> can ubuntu read/write to ntfs?
[08:11] <carlk> ech0: "no"
[08:11] <holy_cow> ech0, only windows can
[08:11] <carlk> holy_cow: not ture
[08:11] <holy_cow> very true
[08:11] <Madpilot> ech0, read, but not write (safely)
[08:11] <ech0> yet another debate comes
[08:12] <holy_cow> ech0, only if one decides that 'pedancy' is debatable
[08:12] <ech0> can it wite new files safely?
[08:12] <carlk> ech0: there are 2 ways to write to NTFS - the totaly open source code that can cause problems, and the wrapper around the MS suppied drivers
[08:12] <holy_cow> there is no wrapper for ms dlls, that project is dead
[08:13] <holy_cow> as well as the project it depended on
[08:13] <skreel> what channel is in spanish?
[08:13] <carlk> however, windows can read/write ext2/3, which often takes care of the need
[08:13] <xophEr> you can with an external driver..Paragon NTFS I think it was called, to bad it isnt free.
[08:13] <FlannelKing> !es
[08:13] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[08:14] <ech0> so ubuntu wouldnt be able to write to my other ntfs part correct? [yes/no]
[08:14] <FlannelKing> um, yes?
[08:14] <holy_cow> ech0, nothing can. its that simple
[08:14] <mivecz> how to install  xfce4
[08:14] <mivecz> ?
[08:14] <sambagirl> hah i did not read that :D
[08:14] <carlk> ech0: not out of the box
[08:14] <ech0> thank you! i straight answer on the subject
[08:14] <holy_cow> well except for the paragon proprietary driver, you can buy that
[08:14] <sambagirl> thanks
[08:14] <xophEr> ech0, but you can..
[08:14] <sambagirl> thanks carlk
[08:15] <mivecz> how to install  xfce4
[08:15] <carlk> sambagirl: glad I can help
[08:16] <dstryr> what's the diff between i686 nad i486?
[08:16] <Healot> !tell mivecz about apt-get
[08:16] <sambagirl> http://tinyurl.com/o4xrp carlk what abvout this one you think ubuntu work for this?
[08:16] <carlk> ech0: here is what I use: www.fs-driver.org It provides Windows NT4.0/2000/XP with full access to Linux Ext2 volumes (read access and write access).
[08:16] <Healot> !xfce4
[08:16] <ubotu> Do they come in packets of five. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Healot
[08:16] <FlannelKing> mivecz: apt-get xfce4 you're welcome to do similar things with aptitude, synaptec, etc
[08:16] <skreel> who can gibme a good adrees of a radio plz
[08:17] <dli> how to get dialup from the installation cd?
[08:17] <Healot> i'll do extX drive from windows... but I recommend not the do the other way around, writing ntfs from linux is troublesome...
[08:17] <elkbuntu> if anyone here plays text MUDs, what client do they use? surely there's something better than gmoo or gnome-mud
[08:17] <FlannelKing> elkbuntu: lyntin I think is the granddaddy of all clients
[08:17] <elkbuntu> FlannelKing, is it as good as zmud?
[08:18] <mivecz> E: Couldn't find package xfce4
[08:18] <Madpilot> !xfce
[08:18] <ubotu> well, xfce is a lightweight Desktop Environment that uses GTK. to install, "sudo apt-get install xfce4" or "sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop". http://www.xfce.org/
[08:18] <jiangguowei> Madpilot:gpg --send-keys 03697E5F
[08:18] <jiangguowei> gpg: sending key 03697E5F to hkp server subkeys.pgp.net
[08:18] <jiangguowei> gpg: keyserver timed out
[08:18] <jiangguowei> gpg: keyserver send failed: keyserver error
[08:18] <FlannelKing> elkbuntu: zmuds poo.  Mushclient is better.  You can run MC under wine.
[08:18] <Madpilot> !info xfce4
[08:18] <ubotu> xfce4: (Installs Xfce4 core and scripts to set it up), section universe/x11, is optional. Version: 4.2.2 (breezy), Packaged size: 4 kB, Installed size: 64 kB
[08:18] <carlk> sambagirl: "based on MIPS R5000 CPU "  I don't think there is Ubuntu for that,
[08:18] <elkbuntu> i dont particuarly want to install wine... looks like too much effort :P
[08:18] <Madpilot> mivecz, you need to have Universe repo enabled to get xfce4
[08:18] <sambagirl> ok
[08:18] <FlannelKing> elkbuntu: if you want a nice graphical client, I'd suggest Mushclient and wine.  Lyntin is text based, old fashioned
[08:18] <mivecz> sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[08:18] <sambagirl> thanks carlk
[08:18] <sambagirl> again
[08:19] <carlk> elkbuntu: wine is in teh repo
[08:19] <jiangguowei> Madpilot:keyserver doesn't work?
[08:19] <skreel> who can type a radio adres plz
[08:19] <elkbuntu> Carlk i was under the impression there was alot of fiddling to do with it still
[08:19] <FlannelKing> elkbuntu: yeah, it's in the repo.  MC forums have a good tutorial on running with wine too.  Only difference from windows is you have to use Lua for scripting, as the other languages are DOM based.
[08:19] <Madpilot> jiangguowei, I don't know - see if there's a GPG channel on freenode
[08:19] <carlk> elkbuntu: that depends on what win apps you are trying to run
[08:20] <jrsims> isnt' "startx" supposed to come with my xorg download?
[08:20] <elkbuntu> is xwine worth installing?
[08:20] <sambagirl> what is a radio address?
[08:20] <jiangguowei> Madpilot:Ok.Let me try.Thank you very much!
[08:20] <elkbuntu> jrsims, startx is something you use before x is already running
[08:20] <elkbuntu> it starts the xserver
[08:21] <Madpilot> jiangguowei, #gnupg
[08:22] <jrsims> elkbuntu: ok, so where do I get it?
[08:22] <elkbuntu> jrsims, are you typing 'startx' at a console prompt?
[08:23] <sambagirl> what is a radio address?
[08:23] <levander> How screwed am i going to get if even though i have gcc 4 installed, i try to install gcc 3.3 also?
[08:23] <Healot> i would recommend /etc/init.d/gdm start instead :)
[08:23] <jrsims> elkbuntu: yes. just so you know, I installed the base system of ubuntu, so I'm now trying to acquire all the packages I need for basic windowing (fluxbox)
[08:23] <_jason> levander: 0 screwage
[08:23] <slvmchn> !info rosegarden
[08:24] <levander> _jason: mmmmm... this is scary
[08:24] <holy_cow> levander, none, nada, zilcho
[08:24] <ubotu> rosegarden: (An integrated MIDI sequencer and musical notation editor), section universe/sound, is extra. Version: 2.1pl4-2 (breezy), Packaged size: 4 kB, Installed size: 36 kB
[08:24] <slvmchn> !info lmms
[08:24] <levander> holy_cow: you sure???
[08:24] <holy_cow> i've got it installed here
[08:24] <slvmchn> !info ardour
[08:24] <slvmchn> !info qjackctl
[08:24] <levander> holy_cow: you've got gcc 4 and gcc 3.3?
[08:24] <ubotu> qjackctl: (User interface for controlling the JACK sound server), section universe/sound, is optional. Version: 0.2.18-2ubuntu1 (breezy), Packaged size: 345 kB, Installed size: 972 kB
[08:24] <slvmchn> !info jack
[08:24] <holy_cow> levander, you can always install/reinstall gcc versions later
[08:24] <carlk> jrsims: have you heard of xubuntu?
[08:24] <ubotu> jack: (Rip and encode CDs with one command), section universe/sound, is optional. Version: 3.1.1-3 (breezy), Packaged size: 100 kB, Installed size: 540 kB
[08:24] <_jason> levander: I've 3.3, 3.4, and 4 and no problems
[08:24] <jrsims> carlk: no, what's that?
[08:24] <Healot> you can install all GCC versions side-by-side
[08:25] <Healot> technically
[08:25] <Redth> this is frustrating.... freeglut3-dev won't install
[08:25] <jiangguowei> Madpilot: yeah, I will join that channel.
[08:25] <holy_cow> its just a compiler, nothing depends on it
[08:25] <dli> "Can not get terminal parameter, input/output error", in dialup using "pon"
[08:25] <carlk> jrsims: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu
[08:25] <jrsims> carlk: I have no browser yet! what does it do? :)
[08:25] <carlk> dli: there is a better thing... yphone... no... just a sec.
[08:26] <dli> carlk, before anything good, how can I get it without dialup?
[08:26] <dreamy> how to register in windowsnt  domain???????
[08:27] <dstryr> what is wine?
[08:27] <Healot> a liquor? hehe
[08:27] <hatake_kakashi> !tell dstryr about wine
[08:27] <carlk> jrsims: "Ubuntu desktop experience (even on older hardware) by using Xfce4 as the desktop environment and GTK+ 2 applications"
[08:27] <levander> dstryr: windows emulator
[08:27] <carlk> dli: yeah, it is on the CD...  i think... im looking in a sec
[08:28] <dstryr> is stable if you run win app on it?
[08:28] <dstryr> like mirc and stuff
[08:28] <carlk> jrsims: "you can install it by doing a server install of Ubuntu and then fetching and installing the xubuntu-desktop package."
[08:28] <rupan3> aww why would you want mirc
[08:28] <Healot> dstryr, really depends on what your wine can do/its version///
[08:28] <dstryr> im just saying
[08:28] <dstryr> thats the only thing i could think of
[08:28] <jrsims> carlk: sounds good. I'll try it.
[08:28] <hatake_kakashi> dstryr: not all win32 programs can be running through wine.. and why the hell would you want to use mirc on linux? sheesh
[08:28] <rupan3> did you spend too much timelearning mircscript?
[08:29] <Healot> and the DLLs that your Windows app load
[08:29] <rupan3> hehe i know i did
[08:29] <rupan3> :p
[08:29] <dstryr> anyway , is there any plugins for xchat that shows your sys info?
[08:29] <Healot> damn, LInux for Linux apps :)
[08:29] <sinaduel> hello, I am using kubuntu, and do not wish to reset my OS to become a server for my site, so how would I go about doing it?
[08:29] <holy_cow> sinaduel, uninstall apache?
[08:29] <hatake_kakashi> dstryr: yes there is, I think xchat has some urls pointing around for it
[08:29] <polpak> sinaduel: you want to set up a web server?
[08:30] <Madpilot> dstryr, check the XChat homepage - xchat.org - there are piles of plugins
[08:30] <rupan3> sinaduel: i think it's unclear what you are asking
[08:30] <sinaduel> yes, I want to be a server for my web site
[08:30] <polpak> sinaduel: install apache
[08:30] <holy_cow> oh wait, INSTALL apache
[08:30] <holy_cow> heh
[08:30] <dreamy> how to register in windowsnt  domain???????
[08:30] <holy_cow> that was a trick question X)
[08:30] <sinaduel> thankyou
[08:30] <rupan3> haha
[08:30] <Healot> well, a default install of Xchat have perl/python/tcl binding
[08:31] <Healot> do you can write script using perl/python to work out with Xchat
[08:31] <carlk> dli: WvDial isn't what I was looking for, but it might help and is on the CD, i think...
[08:31] <dstryr> i just need a plugin for this
[08:31] <Healot> you mean pppd/pppconfig etc?
[08:32] <dli> carlk, I like wvdial, but it's not on the CD
[08:32] <Littl3_indian> Hi
[08:32] <Healot> wvdial is in the default install CD...
[08:32] <dstryr> i just loaded that perl sys info, but how come theres no dialog and stuff?
[08:32] <Littl3_indian> I am trying ubuntu installation for first time and am thru with it
[08:32] <Littl3_indian> but now i have a problem
[08:32] <dstryr> that you can press so that it shows your sys info?
[08:32] <dli> Healot, you sure?
[08:33] <Healot> yes...
[08:33] <Littl3_indian> the system stops @ startinghotplug subsystem
[08:33] <Healot> checkout synaptic... the default package list HAS WVDIAL
[08:33] <dli> Healot, how to install it? "apt-cdrom add", "apt-get install wvdial"?
[08:33] <Healot> up to you? should i ask ubotu ?
[08:34] <Healot> !tell dli about synaptic
[08:34] <dli> Healot, the first thing I tried was wvdial, quite dismayed, "wvdial can not be found"
[08:34] <Littl3_indian> I have selected only onboard grafix as suggested in a forum but that too does not work
[08:34] <Extreme_Unction> Anybody wanna play Contra 3 on Zsnes netplay?
[08:34] <Littl3_indian> Any help ?
[08:34] <Healot> not really my problem hehe
[08:35] <Healot> well, it is the default CD install though
[08:35] <Healot> use synaptic, help you less with the browsing for package
[08:35] <Keyframe> can you recommend good news reader for ubuntu/gnome ?
[08:35] <dli> Healot, thanks :)
[08:36] <Healot> mutt? well, you can use evolution///
[08:36] <jordo23> whatup yall
[08:37] <Littl3_indian> Did any one have a same problem  with Starting Hotplug Subsystem
[08:37] <Jdralphs> i think i broke something with opengl & my nvidia drivers.  I was having a probelm with the prepackaged driver from universe; my cpu usage randomly went up to 100% and stayed there -- top blamed xorg.  anyway so i made a new kernal and used the nvidia installer after uninstalling the old ones via apt-get, and now when i boot up everything that uses opengl seg faults.  anyone know what i could look into to fix it?
[08:37] <carlk> dli: WvDial is on my dapper CD
[08:37] <carlk> time for bed.. see ya all later
[08:37] <chuckyp> wow im runk who needs help?
[08:37] <freeone3000> Hello, I'm trying to install Java on someone with no knowledge of Ubuntu. I have root and all, I just have no idea why it's asking me for a library.
[08:37] <Littl3_indian> Me needs help :(
[08:37] <Healot> and the package name is "wvdial"
[08:38] <Jdralphs> aye me too
[08:38] <freeone3000> Why would it need one, and how do I tell it that it doesn't or that it already has it or that I can somehow get it?
[08:38] <Healot> which java package are you trying to install? the ubuntu's or Sun's?
[08:39] <dstryr> where i can find the folder /lspci ?
[08:39] <Extreme_Unction> It comes with the GNU Interpreter for Java version 1.4.1 I believe!
[08:39] <dli> carlk, my mistake wvdial is there :) thanks
[08:39] <polpak> ubotu tell freeone3000 about java
[08:39] <dstryr> or how to search for it?
[08:39] <dstryr> >
[08:39] <carlk> dli: hope it works for you - now I can sleep better
[08:42] <freeone3000> It says it can't find 'java-package'... is the wiki out of date? What's your guys's version of Debian's 'non-free' keyword?
[08:43] <Healot> is there such dir "/lspci"?
[08:43] <freeone3000> So I can edit /etc/apt/sources.list and all so it will show up...
[08:43] <Healot> or are you trying to run lspci (PCI bus tool)?
[08:43] <Extreme_Unction> freeone3000
[08:43] <Keyframe> I have mounted a samba drive over network in fstab.. but when I startup machine it asks me for password (there is none).. what should I put into options in fstab? if I make password='' it doesn't mount
[08:43] <Extreme_Unction> It's much easier just to get Sun Java deb package
[08:44] <Extreme_Unction> java-package is problematic at actually making the packages, anyway.
[08:44] <dstryr> im trying to edit the line from xchat plugin
[08:44] <dstryr> coz it doesn't show my vid card
[08:44] <freeone3000> Where can I get the sun java deb package?
[08:44] <Healot> freeone3000, in ubuntu, it's "universe"
[08:44] <Extreme_Unction> freeone3000: http://mirror2.ubuntulinux.nl/pool/java/sun-j2sdk1.5_1.5.0+update06_i386.deb
[08:45] <Extreme_Unction> Use dpkg to install it
[08:45] <GullyFoyle> the java-package install thing went pefectly for me on amd54 kubuntu
[08:45] <Healot> freeone3000, you can make your own... install make-jpkg
[08:45] <freeone3000> Thank you.
[08:45] <Extreme_Unction> Oh, your on amd64.. freeone?
[08:45] <Extreme_Unction> That's for i386
[08:45] <Healot> dl the sun' jre/jdk make
[08:45] <Littl3_indian> Can any one please give me any solution on my problem with HotPlug Subsystem @ startup
[08:46] <dstryr> and yeah, in /sbin dir, which one is your vid card?
[08:46] <Extreme_Unction> freeone3000: That's not a good package if your on x86_64/x64
[08:46] <curley_sue> hi, how do I run a root priviliged command in a script without having the need for pw request?
[08:46] <dstryr> sudo ?
[08:46] <curley_sue> in a script?
[08:47] <Extreme_Unction> su root
[08:47] <Extreme_Unction> You still have to enter it, but only once :\
[08:47] <Keyframe> how can I make blank password in fstab?
[08:48] <curley_sue> I need to add a key shortcut to fluxbox key file. the action needs su priviliges, how is that done without the need for a pw everytime?
[08:48] <Extreme_Unction> add it to your bash file?
[08:48] <curley_sue> Extreme_Unction, I dont understand
[08:48] <_amin> can someone please tellme the list of terminal commands and their functionz ?
[08:49] <graeme> in upgrading from 5.04 to breezy, i have changed the in the synaptic package manager all the repos that ended with hoary to breezy, but i am still not getting a full upgrade
[08:49] <Extreme_Unction>  - /home/name/bashrc are things executed at bash startup
[08:49] <graeme> my ubuntu still says its running hoary
[08:51] <curley_sue> _amin, check https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BasicCommands , http://www.computerhope.com/index.htm
[08:51] <Enignon> I'm not too sure if I'm just looking in all the wrong places or not, but I'm having a bit of trouble getting 5.10 to install on a *cringe* celeron 400, it's locking up or appears to be after successfully starting the "kernal log daemon". Any suggestions not involving a sledge hammer appreciated.
[08:51] <Littl3_indian> Whats Hotplug  ? USB?
[08:51] <mikebot> if i want to link soemthing to a program ran with wine, can i do: "ln -s win /media/blah.exe ~/Desktop"?
[08:51] <mikebot> *wine
[08:51] <Enignon> ^kernel I mean
[08:52] <FlannelKing> _amin: go to /usr/bin and take a look.
[08:52] <GeorgeAScott> is there a quick and easy way to change the permisions to a directory including all files, folders and sub-folders
[08:53] <FlannelKing> GeorgeAScott: you want the -R flag for chmod (are you really sure you want to change their permission?)
[08:53] <Littl3_indian> I have googled for my problem but i dont find a proper result. Many seem to have this problem anyways
[08:53] <GeorgeAScott> its for my music directory, when i copy a cd to my harddrive
[08:54] <GeorgeAScott> it only lets me read and execute.... (sorry for pressing enter)
[08:54] <dstryr> in /sbin dir, which one is your vid card?
[08:54] <FlannelKing> GeorgeAScott: the -R flag is whta youre looking for.
[08:55] <GeorgeAScott> so i would type sudo chmod -r /dir/yada yada....?
[08:56] <FlannelKing> GeorgeAScott: chmod -R [mask]  /path/to/stuff
[08:56] <FlannelKing> shouldn't have tosudo, since they're owned by you.
[08:56] <FlannelKing> and, NOT sudoing is a good thing, since if you accidentally point somewhere wrong, you'll know.
[08:57] <FlannelKing> instead of chmod'ing your entire harddrive 777 ;)
[08:57] <GeorgeAScott> haha right... ok... so what's [mask] ?
[08:57] <Healot> my mask is made from plastic :)
[08:58] <Enignon> *chuckles* I get the feeling a sledge hammer is the most obvious solution then to my query
[08:58] <FlannelKing> GeorgeAScott: 1+2+4 depending on which flags you want.  Google it ;)  Since that'll help you determine exactly what you want anyway
[08:58] <Healot> the term's "octal"
[08:58] <GeorgeAScott> alrighty.. thanks a bunch.. hehe made from plastic...
[09:00] <FlannelKing> Healot: it's Octal yeah, but that's not the important information
[09:00] <dstryr> what would be the problem when i turned my volume on, it says you don't have GStreamer plugins installed or you don't have a sound configured
[09:00] <dstryr> what's this?
[09:00] <dstryr> what's GStreamer?
[09:00] <CineFX3D_> how can I install Wifi support? I have a dell laptop.. and when I do iwconfig I don't see wlan device
[09:00] <Healot> it is important... who knows, if the chmod 999 ?
[09:02] <FlannelKing> Healot: they could be hex, you can't tell.  might have a new flag someday
[09:02] <Psykus> hey, I just installed unreal tournament 2004 (linux version of course), and i can't seem to get sound working on it, any suggestions?
[09:02] <Healot> hehe... if they have FS like WInFS or NTFS :)
[09:02] <slvmchn> damn, there are some nice screen savers on ubuntu
[09:02] <Psykus> the game says it uses "OpenAL" for sound, which doesn't sound familiar
[09:02] <slvmchn> every couple days i see a new one
[09:02] <Healot> in mean in linux world
[09:03] <FlannelKing> Nah, Healot, theyre just bits.  Nothign saying there can't be four.
[09:03] <dstryr> oh its that alsa stuff
[09:03] <Littl3_indian> Anyone can please gimme some info on the issue with hotplug subsystem
[09:03] <Healot> what FS has UUID?
[09:04] <Healot> is it JFS? Reiser?
[09:04] <jrsims> hey, when I run startx, it's saying i don't have permission. How do I change that?
[09:04] <dstryr> ey Healot
[09:04] <Psykus> looking in the package manager, it says libraries for openal are already installed
[09:04] <CineFX3D_> how can I install Wifi support? I have a dell laptop.. and when I do iwconfig I don't see wlan device
[09:05] <Healot> the support proggies are there, but you didn't install the driver for you wifi card yet
[09:05] <Healot> you can 'iwconfig' right?
[09:05] <CineFX3D_> yeah
[09:05] <CineFX3D_> but I don't see wlan device
[09:05] <dstryr> anyone?
[09:06] <dstryr> what would be the problem when i turned my volume on, it says you don't have GStreamer plugins installed or you don't have a sound configured
[09:06] <Healot> sure/// driver is not loaded yet///
[09:06] <CineFX3D_> how where should I load it? :/
[09:06] <Healot> dstryr, what program are u using to change vol?
[09:06] <dstryr> Volume Control
[09:06] <dstryr> from the taskbar
[09:06] <Healot> first thing, get the driver, for Dell, i think mostly Intel's Wifi?
[09:06] <Psykus> so, anyone have a clue why ut2004 is being silent?
[09:06] <CineFX3D_> yes, probably
[09:07] <Healot> dstryr, can you here any sound?
[09:07] <dstryr> no
[09:07] <dstryr> no volume
[09:07] <Healot> well, without changing the vol
[09:07] <jaawood> depends on the card, some dells are broadcom chipsets, and you have to use ndiswrapper to install the driver
[09:07] <dstryr> i think i need to install that alsa/gstreamer stuff
[09:07] <Healot> ok, that means you haven't configure your soundcard yet, dstryr
[09:07] <dstryr> how do you do that?
[09:07] <Healot> well, for intel's new 2200 wifi, you need "ndiswrapper"
[09:08] <Enignon> I'm not too sure if I'm just looking in all the wrong places or not, but I'm having a bit of trouble getting 5.10 to install on a *cringe* celeron 400, it's locking up or appears to be after successfully starting the "kernel log daemon". Any suggestions not involving a sledge hammer appreciated.
[09:08] <CineFX3D_> lscpi says broadcom
[09:09] <dstryr> how do you configure your soundcard?
[09:09] <Healot> dstryr, usually it's autoconfigured, during install... but if you cannot find any after install, probably your sound card not supported by the kernel
[09:09] <CineFX3D_> should I go with ndiswrapper then?
[09:10] <Healot> need to find the driver and compile it manually... though, this is one is tough...
[09:10] <Healot> CineFX3D_, yes...
[09:10] <dstryr> i can see my soundcard when in lspci
[09:10] <dstryr> -when
[09:10] <Littl3_indian> Can any one please give me any solution why my system stops while Satrting HotPlug Subsystem @ startup
[09:10] <Littl3_indian> Starting*
[09:11] <Healot> sure...
[09:11] <Littl3_indian> :)
[09:11] <FlannelKing> Littl3_indian: have you tried google?  since I don't think anyonehere knows.
[09:11] <Littl3_indian> ya i did
[09:11] <Healot> btu there is no dsp driver for your sound card, can you tell me what's the model of that?
[09:11] <GeorgeAScott> FlannelKing: is this a suitable mask for what i was wanting to do?   drwxr-xr-x
[09:11] <FlannelKing> that'd be 755
[09:11] <FlannelKing> or, shorthand ;)
[09:12] <Enignon> no clue, mine is hanging after starting the kernel log daemon *shrugs* google was no hel so I'm thinking a 10 pound sledge right now...or maybe a different video card on the off chance
[09:12] <Littl3_indian> I found a solution  found said Select Onboard gfx whihc i did and no help
[09:12] <Littl3_indian> Is it a issue with the gfx cad ?
[09:12] <Littl3_indian> card*
[09:12] <FlannelKing> Littl3_indian: you actually might have better luck asking in ##linux, since that doesn't sound like an ubuntu specific issue
[09:13] <FlannelKing> well, apart from I really don't think anyone who is !idle here knows
[09:13] <Healot> dstryr, try to reconfigure you "linux-sound-base"
[09:13] <Healot> what's the command line again?
[09:13] <Littl3_indian> Well i used a boot cd on same machine which went fine .
[09:13] <Healot> dpkg --reconfigure linux-sound-base ? is this right?
[09:14] <Littl3_indian> Now just after installation it behave like this :(
[09:14] <dstryr> sudo dpkg-reconfigure linux-sound-base
[09:14] <dstryr> i think
[09:14] <Healot> ok... try that then...
[09:14] <Eidan> hi all
[09:14] <Healot> i usually use synaptic...
[09:15] <Healot> if you still can't get sound, i think the kernel doesnot have module for your sound card...
[09:15] <dstryr> ic
[09:15] <kjon> Hello there: I would like to know how is possible to switch the video output from the LCD to the vga port of a notebook.
[09:16] <dstryr> when you update that linux-sound-base, do you have to restart X >
[09:16] <dstryr> ?
[09:16] <_amin> what is the command to unzip any .tgz file ?
[09:16] <dstryr> tar -xzvf file.tgz
[09:16] <dstryr> or tar file.tgz
[09:17] <kjon> my videocard is an Intel 82852/855GM
[09:17] <Healot> dstryr, no, no need to restart X
[09:17] <dstryr> but how do you know if its updated?
[09:18] <Healot> open vol manager again...
[09:18] <dstryr> will the Volume Control pop up?
[09:18] <dstryr> oh ic
[09:18] <Healot> built-in intel huh
[09:18] <GeorgeAScott> FlannelKing: well i think 755 is what i want.  now that will affect all the files in the folder and subfolders?
[09:18] <mivecz> how to isntall a gtk2.x theme in  xfce4
[09:18] <mivecz> ?
[09:19] <mivecz> install*
[09:19] <FlannelKing> GeorgeAScott: that's what the -R flag is for
[09:19] <FlannelKing> makes it recursive
[09:19] <Healot> true...
[09:19] <GeorgeAScott> oh ok... sorry
[09:19] <Healot> -R the capital R :)
[09:19] <mivecz> how to install a gtk2.x theme in  xfce4
[09:19] <mivecz> ?
[09:19] <Healot> apt-get install?
[09:20] <mivecz> theme man
[09:20] <FlannelKing> mivecz: apt-get search xfce4 find the package you want
[09:20] <FlannelKing> then  apt-get install [package name]
[09:20] <Healot> see :)
[09:21] <Eidan> guys someone can help me installing XGL please...^
[09:21] <Eidan> or just tell me how to check if i've the latesta driver for nvidia and if is all configured well?
[09:21] <mivecz> i download  a theme  from  a web site  how?
[09:21] <Healot> you need this package first "gtk2-engines-xfce"
[09:21] <kuja> Eidan: Why not just use the nvidia packages in the Ubuntu respitory?
[09:22] <Healot> Gtk+-2.0 theme engine for Xfce
[09:22] <pinpoint> start gnome?
[09:22] <Eidan> kuja
[09:22] <Eidan> how?
[09:22] <pinpoint> does that work
[09:22] <mivecz> gtk2-engines-xfce is already the newest version
[09:22] <Eidan> can i query u for a second?
[09:22] <kuja> sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx
[09:22] <chafe> how do i set root password
[09:23] <pinpoint> passwd su
[09:23] <kuja> Then all you have to do is sudo modprobe nvidia, after that, edit your /etc/X11/xorg.conf and change whatever driver to use 'nvidia'
[09:23] <pinpoint> passwd root
[09:23] <chafe> what?
[09:23] <Healot> sudo passwd root
[09:23] <Healot> in first install
[09:23] <chafe> no
[09:23] <mivecz> Healot gtk2-engines-xfce is already the newest version
[09:23] <FlannelKing> !rootsudo
[09:23] <ubotu> By default, the root password is locked in Ubuntu. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.
[09:23] <sonasks>  what will be faster - scsi u320 on mirror or sata on raid 5 ??
[09:23] <TheMik> Hello all, I just popped in for a quick ?......I was wondering if 5.10 would run decently on a K6-450 Mhz puter (w 75 mhz FSB)
[09:23] <chafe> sudo: unable to lookup hostname via gethostbyname()
[09:24] <FlannelKing> chafe, read that.
[09:24] <chafe> thanks FlannelKing
[09:24] <Healot> TheMik, yes it can. slow however with X running
[09:24] <TheMik> Slower than XP?
[09:24] <Eidan> kuja
[09:24] <Eidan> but when i restart
[09:24] <Healot> YES :()
[09:25] <Eidan> i've to see the white nvidia  screen?
[09:25] <FlannelKing> TheMik: You might want to think of a non gnome/KDE window manager, but yeah, it'll run.
[09:25] <Eidan> so it works?
[09:25] <chafe> wait a minute
[09:25] <kuja> Eidan: Yes, it works.
[09:25] <chafe> no this isnt working
[09:25] <Healot> without X, fast as a "supercomputer", not literally speaking
[09:25] <joelbryan> anyone here knows how to use sed?
[09:25] <Eidan> if the white nvidia screen doesen't come out
[09:25] <mivecz> Healot gtk2-engines-xfce is already the newest version
[09:25] <chafe> i can use sudo to set the root password at first install
[09:25] <Eidan> there's something wrong?
[09:25] <chafe> ?
[09:25] <chafe> or
[09:25] <TheMik> Well this is for my 4 yr olds puter, I want the most user friendly interface
[09:25] <TheMik> and what is "X"
[09:25] <FlannelKing> chafe: why are you setting the root password?
[09:25] <Healot> mivecz, i wasn't talking bout the versio, please stop repeating
[09:26] <CineFX3D_> fucking broadcom
[09:26] <chafe> FlannelKing i just installed
[09:26] <Healot> haha
[09:26] <pinpoint> chafe, usually sudo passwd root will do
[09:26] <Healot> CineFX3D_, no, fuck intel instead :)
[09:26] <pinpoint> just type in your password for the current first users
[09:26] <pinpoint> user*
[09:26] <CineFX3D_> fuck'em all :)
[09:26] <ohy4> so if my kernel doesn't have module for my sound card, is there any other way to fix this?
[09:26] <FlannelKing> chafe: Ubunt doesn't really use a root password, we have different scheme.  did you read that page?
[09:26] <chafe> i have NOT set a root password yet
[09:26] <mivecz> i have  the  gtk-engine  so what  after
[09:26] <FlannelKing> chafe there is NO root password in ubuntu by default
[09:26] <Healot> ohy4, find the driver at manufacturer's site...
[09:26] <chafe> hmm..
[09:26] <chafe> yea ill read more
[09:27] <edward_> hello all
[09:27] <kuja> TheMik: X is the window system.
[09:27] <pinpoint> sudo does just fine
[09:27] <Healot> and compile it... this is the tough part
[09:27] <joelbryan> CineFX3D_:  are you refering to NIC card?
[09:27] <ohy4> then what
[09:27] <chafe> i started reading, looking for something like knoppix uses
[09:27] <CineFX3D_> wlan in dell
[09:27] <Healot> his broadcom wifi
[09:27] <ohy4> what you do after compiling
[09:27] <spacey> TheMik: X handles all the graphics. So itdoesn't matter which window manager you take (gnome, kde, xfce) you always use it
[09:27] <edward_> is there a epository of drivers for ubuntu anywhere?
[09:27] <pinpoint> CineFX3D_, for a dell lappy
[09:27] <edward_> *depository
[09:27] <TheMik> ahh thx, so it is a needed thing then
[09:27] <Healot> ohy4, then if compilation exits fin, then you should have a working sound card?
[09:27] <pinpoint> mine never worked even after ndiswrapper
[09:27] <kuja> TheMik: If you want a graphical environment, it's necessary, yep.
[09:27] <CineFX3D_> pinpoint: yeah.. I'm messing with ndiswrapper now
[09:27] <joelbryan> CineFX3D_:  do you get disconnected after 1 minute?  It's not bad, but maybe something like Edubuntu :)
[09:28] <derek_57hgf> hello
[09:28] <Healot> i recommend you to get a netgear or the older broadcom wifi card...
[09:28] <kuja> TheMik: Edubuntu puts a high focus on education.
[09:28] <chafe> okay so i dont need to set anything really?
[09:29] <chafe> but
[09:29] <ohy4> its 3:28 AM i got school tomorrow
[09:29] <mivecz> where to  change  the  theme in  xfce4?
[09:29] <edward_> anyone using a cmedia soundcard?
[09:29] <joelbryan> CineFX3D_:  yeh, I have 2 NIC's that barely supported in kernel 2.16
[09:29] <ohy4> ill ask yall later
[09:29] <GeorgeAScott> FlannelKing: the app "nautilus" wasn't supposed to quit unexpectedly after chmoding was it?
[09:29] <RemyLaptop> hi guys.  question: my ubuntu doesn't start up into the X system anymore, just to a shell prompt. anyone got any ideas why ?
[09:29] <chafe> when i press the Administrator Mode button, i get "Su returned with an error."
[09:29] <TheMik> oh really?  I will check it out, and yes a 4 yr should be on linux, keep them out of corp corruption as long as I can ;)
[09:29] <FlannelKing> GeorgeAScott: laugh, what did you do?
[09:29] <_amin> what is the command to unzip any .tgz file ?
[09:29] <chafe> great error thanks
[09:29] <pinpoint> tar zxf filename.tgz
[09:29] <RemyLaptop> I recently installed the art thing, but that's the only thing I can think of ...
[09:30] <FlannelKing> chafe: are you running ubuntu?
[09:30] <GeorgeAScott> hrmmm i did chmod -R 755 /path/to/blah
[09:30] <chafe> i am running kubuntu
[09:30] <Healot> Corrupt your children with GNU/Linux hehe
[09:30] <chafe> sudo: unable to lookup hostname via gethostbyname()
[09:30] <chafe> okay?
[09:30] <FlannelKing> chafe: did you type your user password at the prompt it gave you?
[09:30] <kuja> TheMik: You might as well tack on a few programming languages too :)
[09:30] <derek_57hgf> i am having problems with the nforce audio driver from nvidia.can any one help me?I've followed the instructions exactly but I can not get alsa to work and oss stops working after about 5 seconds.
[09:30] <TheMik> LOL
[09:30] <chafe> FlannelKing No prompt..
[09:30] <TheMik> not sure if she' ready for that
[09:30] <kuja> TheMik: I know a kid that's been using Linux since near birth, now he works for a good company programming for big bucks.
[09:30] <RemyLaptop> !tell derek_57hgf about easyubuntu
[09:31] <TheMik> sweet my retirement set then
[09:31] <kuja> TheMik: =)
[09:31] <chafe> there is no prompt
[09:31] <RemyLaptop> question: my ubuntu doesn't start up into the X system anymore, just to a shell prompt. anyone got any ideas why ?
[09:31] <RemyLaptop> I recently installed the art thing, but that's the only thing I can think of ...
[09:31] <mivecz> where to go to  change  the  theme in  xfce4?
[09:31] <GeorgeAScott> ya know... my nautilus quits unexpectedly quite often... why!
[09:31] <chafe> just "sudo: unable to lookup hostname via gethostbyname()
[09:31] <pinpoint> i got that error before
[09:31] <derek_57hgf> RemyLaptop: thanks,I will give that a try
[09:31] <pinpoint> thats was typing localhost for my hostname
[09:31] <RemyLaptop> np
[09:31] <pinpoint> or using a name
[09:31] <FlannelKing> TheMik: don't waste time on Edubuntu.  Educational games are hot air.  Get the kid outside playing in the dirt and stuff.  Thats what really gets their minds going.
[09:32] <TheMik> dirt would be nice
[09:32] <sonasks> yeah..
[09:32] <chafe> hmm okay
[09:32] <FlannelKing> chafe: I don't know.  Did you setup a hostname during the install? try googling it.
[09:32] <GeorgeAScott> closing and/or restarting nautilus only brings up the pop-up that it has quit unexpectedly... again
[09:32] <chafe> yeah, i did
[09:32] <pinpoint> do a name?
[09:32] <chafe> my hostname is set up as lerptop
[09:32] <pinpoint> i see
[09:32] <TheMik> Michigan, central part just on the otherside of the great lakes = lots of snow
[09:32] <chafe> i replaced "lerptop" with "hostname" when i pasted the error
[09:32] <RemyLaptop> question: my ubuntu doesn't start up into the X system anymore, just to a shell prompt. anyone got any ideas why ?
[09:32] <FlannelKing> GeorgeAScott: which folder did you chmod?
[09:32] <RemyLaptop> !x
[09:33] <ubotu> it has been said that x is a portable, network-transparent window system.
[09:33] <curley_sue> HELP how can I run ' /etc/acpi/sleep.sh sleep' without the need for PW?
[09:33] <chafe> i havent even touched the damn thing yet
[09:33] <TheMik> so outside time is limited atm
[09:33] <pinpoint> RemyLaptop, erm runlevel 5?
[09:33] <GeorgeAScott> FlannelKing: /media/windows/Muzak
[09:33] <RemyLaptop> pinpoint ?
[09:33] <GeorgeAScott> but i meant that even before i chmoded anything.. nautilus would crash on a regular basis
[09:34] <RemyLaptop> pinpoint, what do you mean by that ?
[09:34] <CineFX3D_> in ifconfig.. hwaddr is MAC address?
[09:34] <FlannelKing> TheMik: eh, just doing stuff, it can be in the house, whantot.  Get them interested in stuff, real world stuff, don't just plop them infront of "educational" things.  Schools teach 'information' they need to learn to enjoy learning first.
[09:34] <chafe> oh this is great
[09:34] <chafe> the error i am getting, from sudo, is because /etc/hosts does not have the hostname lerptop in it
[09:34] <chafe> so
[09:34] <chafe> i guess i should edit that with sudo right?
[09:35] <chafe> well shit..
[09:35] <FlannelKing> chafe: you running breezy? or dapper?
[09:35] <chafe> breezy
[09:35] <ddonky> i have a hp 'internet/media-type' keyboard with all the buttons for volume and dvd controls, anyone know how to map those keys to totem and rythmbox?
[09:35] <RemyLaptop> !runlevel
[09:35] <ubotu> I give up. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, RemyLaptop
[09:35] <TheMik> Oh I know but she should learn puters as well ;)
[09:35] <pinpoint> chafe, hostname [newhostname]
[09:35] <pinpoint> RemyLaptop, in inittab i think
[09:35] <TheMik> and with her attention span she lasts for about 30 mins a day lol
[09:36] <FlannelKing> TheMik: aye.  But don't do the whole 'educational games' give her a command line and a basic interpreter.
[09:36] <kuja> Now THAT is a way to raise a kid.
[09:36] <chafe> pinpoint funny i must be root to do that too
[09:36] <ddonky> hmmm actually the volume whell already works
[09:36] <kuja> If I have a kid, I'm going to make him/her learn C :P
[09:36] <pinpoint> sudo hostname myhostname
[09:36] <RemyLaptop> pinpoint, could I get the "for dummies" version of that ?
[09:36] <TheMik> LOL she can only spell her name atm
[09:36] <chafe> pinpoint ...sudo is giving me an error, because the hostname is not in /etc/hosts
[09:36] <derek_57hgf> RemyLaptop: I dont see anything about the audio driver in there.Is it there?
[09:36] <RemyLaptop> dunno
[09:36] <GeorgeAScott> atm is an odd name for a child... no offense
[09:37] <RemyLaptop> derek_57hgf, I would assume it gets installed with the video driver...
[09:37] <derek_57hgf> i have the video driver installed already
[09:37] <kuja> TheMik: Trust me, make her learn C, and she will be paying you for life :P
[09:37] <FlannelKing> kuja: first real experience I had was BASIC programming on the atari 2600, I was 5.  Its good stuff.
[09:37] <RemyLaptop> hmk, I'm stumped then :)
[09:37] <TheMik> she is slow so we kept it simple :P
[09:37] <derek_57hgf> thanks anyways
[09:37] <pinpoint> RemyLaptop, edit > /etc/inittab change runlevel to 5
[09:37] <chafe> wow!!
[09:38] <chafe> this is great!!
[09:38] <kuja> FlannelKing: I know a kid just like that (as I mentioned earlier), totally obsessive and now codes for good cash for a living (dropped out of high school though)
[09:38] <chafe> lollercaust!
[09:38] <pinpoint> ?
[09:38] <chafe> how can i fix this error that sudo is giving me without being root?
[09:38] <TheMik> She will more than likely be an actress/singer w/ her personality
[09:38] <pinpoint> can you edit chafe?
[09:38] <chafe> edit what?
[09:38] <RemyLaptop> ta
[09:38] <chafe> edit /etc/hosts? no
[09:38] <pinpoint> /etc/hosts
[09:38] <chafe> use hostname hostname? no
[09:38] <chafe> i cannot
[09:38] <pinpoint> vi /etc/hosts
[09:39] <pinpoint> crap, i cant remember what i did for that error
[09:39] <pinpoint> i think i reinstalled O_O
[09:39] <RemyLaptop> !inittab
[09:39] <ubotu> NO SPEAKE ENLISH! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, RemyLaptop
[09:39] <FlannelKing> TheMik: so, why you worried about teaching her computers?  She's four.  Shes a kid, she'll be more proficient than you at what she wants to do on the computer in a day... well, once she's old enough.
[09:39] <chafe> pinpoint yea definitely cant do any editing of /etc/hosts
[09:39] <cwillu> what would the bash equivilent of dir *.log* /s be?
[09:40] <chafe> funny i havent touched the damn install
[09:40] <Psykus> are there any good GUI based download managers for linux? perhaps a frontend to wget?
[09:40] <FlannelKing> chafe: if you haven't touched it, reinstall.
[09:40] <FlannelKing> chafe: actually, you installed kubuntu?  Try asking over there.  #kubuntu
[09:40] <sonasks> in my opinion - kid should go thrwoing stuff, play in a dirt, ride and crash on bikes - that`s a damn mindstorm !
[09:40] <TheMik> Oh well my sis was going to throw away her old puter and just took it and set it up for her, so she could get on Nickjr and disney just to play around
[09:40] <kuja> Psykus: If all else fails, the Linux community would appreciate your contribution if you made one for us :)
[09:40] <pinpoint> cwillu,  ls *.log*
[09:41] <cwillu> that's recursive?
[09:41] <kuja> ls -R
[09:41] <sonasks> mostly -R is recursive
[09:41] <pinpoint> yeah
[09:42] <kuja> rm -Rf, chmod -R, chown -R, ls -R
[09:42] <kuja> All -R :)
[09:42] <Psykus> i found one for KDE, http://www.novell.com/coolsolutions/feature/15983.html
[09:42] <TheMik> But I hate Win98 and xp is to slow on there so I thought Linux would be an better alt for it, but wanted something with an easy interface so I researched and chose Ubuntu
[09:42] <chafe> i am asking but there is NOBODY in there
[09:42] <pinpoint> still cant edit
[09:42] <kuja> TheMik: Have you installed Ubuntu yet?
[09:43] <TheMik> Trust me she does plenty of playtime, like I said she only will be on it for about 30 mins a day and gets bored
[09:43] <TheMik> No not yet
[09:43] <cwillu> ahh, much better, thanks
[09:43] <kuja> Ubuntu is easy enough to set up, not different from Debian (IMO)
[09:43] <chafe> what the FUCK
[09:43] <pinpoint> ?
[09:44] <kuja> In fact, I'd say the Ubuntu install is exactly like Debian, except that it installed ubuntu-desktop. -_-
[09:44] <chafe> i wouldnt say that kuja, i really really wouldnt
[09:44] <FlannelKing> kuja: you haven't been under the hood then, have you?
[09:44] <CineFX3D_> haha, ndiswrapper :))
[09:45] <kuja> The only difference I've seen in the install process is that in Debian I have to manually apt-get install gnome
[09:45] <CineFX3D_> thanks guys for all the cool help
[09:45] <TheMik> Well I know nothing of linux except from 1996 when I used, but alot has changed since
[09:45] <pinpoint> chafe, are you in X
[09:45] <chafe> yes pinpoint
[09:45] <CineFX3D_> now only tell me if there is a wifi widget or something like that I can monitor signal strength and activity
[09:45] <pinpoint> ctrl+alt+f1
[09:45] <CineFX3D_> alt+f7
[09:45] <Psykus> is ubuntu going to get a graphical installer anytime soon?
[09:45] <pinpoint> to jump back do f7
[09:46] <chafe> yeah
[09:46] <kuja> PsyberOne: Next release, Dapper
[09:46] <chafe> login as my regular self again?
[09:46] <pinpoint> sure
[09:46] <pinpoint> use sudo
[09:46] <chafe> okay well sudo gives me the same error, of course
[09:46] <pinpoint> it will take your  normal user pass
[09:46] <Psykus> wrong nick complete, but cool :P
[09:46] <kuja> Psykus*
[09:46] <kuja> :)
[09:46] <chafe> i didnt expect that to change
[09:46] <pinpoint> ?
[09:47] <chafe> sudo still does not work; is there something else you were going to suggest?
[09:47] <Psykus> i always thought that was kind of strange that ubuntu had a non-graphical installer
[09:47] <chafe> am i jumping ahead of myself like an idiot?
[09:47] <kuja> Psykus: It is, actually.
[09:48] <kuja> I think it's kind of strange Ubuntu likes to follow Debian's release dates.
[09:48] <pinpoint> yes, editing /etc/hosts :)
[09:48] <chafe> im still the same user ...?
[09:48] <pinpoint> chare reboot into recovery mode
[09:49] <TheMik> Ubuntu has no live cd I take it?
[09:49] <pinpoint> root automatically
[09:49] <kuja> TheMik: It does.
[09:49] <TheMik> Oh even better
[09:49] <kuja> !livecd
[09:49] <chafe> oh okay
[09:49] <GullyFoyle> Psykus are you using kubuntu? because i had that problem
[09:49] <chafe> recovery mode aye
[09:49] <kuja> What's the damn tell command
[09:49] <kuja> !tell TheMik about livecd
[09:49] <kuja> There we go
[09:49] <danielnewbie> I tried to open Bittorrent, but a window popped up asking me to locate Bittorrent meta file, Does anyone know where I can find this (or do I have to download it)?
[09:49] <pinpoint> <IP_ADDRESS> localhost.localdomain localhost <yourhostname>
[09:49] <Psykus> for ut2004?
[09:50] <TheMik> Thx :)
[09:50] <pinpoint> chafe, then reboot
[09:50] <Littl3_indian> No help on HotPlug Subsystem anywhere :(
[09:50] <Psykus> GullyFoyle, did you mean the ut2004 sound issue?
[09:50] <GullyFoyle> Psykus: yup
[09:51] <jessy_> can somebody help me on how configure pureftpd in order to use another port that 21
[09:51] <Psykus> oh, it decided to work all of a sudden
[09:51] <Psykus> and no, i'm on standard ubuntu/gnome
[09:52] <CineFX3D_> is there a wifi widget or something like that I can monitor signal strength and activity?
[09:52] <TheMik> Hmm the guide is for a linux based machine, I will search for a Xp based one (Isobutster comes to mind)
[09:53] <GullyFoyle> Psykus: if you are using kde it will lock up alsa for a specific period of time until it's not being used. yo can change that amount of time to 5 seconds or so, so you don't have to wait.
[09:53] <Psykus> weird, it's not wanting to work now, no clue what's going on
[09:53] <chafe> eeegh
[09:53] <pinpoint> jessy
[09:53] <pinpoint> jessy_
[09:53] <frank_> whats a goog wifi manager for ubuntu
[09:53] <sonasks> god i hate alsa so much...
[09:53] <GullyFoyle> Psykus: that's why i asked if you were using kubuntu
[09:53] <Mirv> is anyone using Ibook G4? do you have any idea how difficult is to change a hard drive in it to another one?
[09:53] <pinpoint> too bad he quit
[09:53] <Psykus> speaking of sound, is there any way to disable the system beep, and make it play a sound through the soundcard instead?
[09:53] <pinpoint> -S xx.xx.xx.xx,port
[09:53] <Psykus> ah
[09:54] <Mirv> I'd love to buy a IBook G4 (12") and run Ubuntu on it, but faster&larger hdd would be nice
[09:54] <pinpoint> chafe, ?
[09:54] <Cliff> do people actually use this
[09:54] <Syns> how do i get pine?
[09:54] <Syns> its not available through synaptic
[09:54] <sixslap> Does anyone have a good link for idendt.conf help?
[09:54] <GullyFoyle> Syns: go to the woods? just kidding
[09:54] <Syns> lol
[09:55] <sixslap> need example conf of a enabled identd
[09:55] <Cliff> www.google.com
[09:55] <Syns> does ubuntu not support pine?
[09:55] <sixslap> lmao
[09:55] <sixslap> thats funnny
[09:55] <kuja> People buy Macs and put Linux on it?  Mac was born from Linux
[09:56] <Cliff> i've had trouble with it
[09:56] <sixslap> linux sound kicks ass
[09:56] <pinpoint> chafe, work?
[09:56] <chafe> and im still kinda debating wether i should keep using this
[09:56] <slvmchn> if i had a g4 laptop i'd probably want to dual boot ubuntu w/osx
[09:56] <sixslap> actully
[09:56] <sonasks> you practically got Linux on it man
[09:56] <Cliff> hippie
[09:56] <Psykus> i might dual-boot OSX/ubuntu
[09:56] <Cliff> hippie
[09:56] <slvmchn> lol
[09:56] <GullyFoyle> Mac OSX is FreeBSD3.3 kernel
[09:56] <slvmchn> is it really, that's interesting
[09:56] <chafe> yes it worked pinpoint, but the "Administrator Mode" in my settings... my wifi options are still all greyed out
[09:57] <pinpoint> what card?
[09:57] <frank_> how can i update breezy to latest dapper release?
[09:57] <kuja> So someone would waste good money to buy a Mac and put Linux on it, when you can get like 2 computers of the same quality for a similar price and just put Linux on both of them? >>>WOW<<<
[09:57] <Littl3_indian> Well while installation i was'n asked for a superuser password
[09:57] <chafe> hey Cliff
[09:57] <Cliff> what
[09:58] <Littl3_indian> Now i is asking
[09:58] <Cliff> what?
[09:58] <chafe> do you live in florida
[09:58] <sonasks> it`d a password for a user you are on right now
[09:58] <Littl3_indian> Is there any default pwd
[09:58] <Littl3_indian> ?
[09:58] <Cliff> nope
[09:58] <Cliff> i live in utica
[09:58] <Littl3_indian> i tried that
[09:58] <Littl3_indian> no help
[09:58] <chafe> utica
[09:58] <chafe> how is that
[09:58] <Cliff> utica ny 13501
[09:59] <Cliff> we have a brewery and im drunk
[09:59] <pinpoint> Littl3_indian, installation of...
[09:59] <chafe> have you used ubuntu
[09:59] <sonasks> aren`t the Red marlboro`s the best or what ??
[09:59] <Littl3_indian> ya
[09:59] <sixslap> cliff is drunk
[09:59] <GeorgeAScott> so are there any other breezy users who have trouble with nautilus quiting unexpectedly... and ff1.5 as well?
[09:59] <Cliff> yea im running it now
[09:59] <sixslap> see cliff drink
[09:59] <sixslap> see cliff fall
[09:59] <Littl3_indian> Ubuntu
[09:59] <jessy_> somebody know how to change the port that used pureftpd from 21 to 51112 ??
[09:59] <Cliff> its the best os i've ever used
[09:59] <Tomcat_> frank_: Replace breezy with dapper in /etc/apt/sources.list, then apt-get dist-upgrade
[09:59] <sixslap> see cliff roll around in his own piss
[09:59] <sonasks> serach for port in proftpd.conf
[10:00] <Cliff> why
[10:00] <Tomcat_> frank_: But please don't do it... dangerous, break your system, etc.
[10:00] <Littl3_indian> Pinpoint:installation of Ubuntu i mean
[10:00] <chafe> HEY I SHOULd probably hit Administrator mode in the network interfaces configure.. there isnt an Administrator Mode button on the form??
[10:00] <pinpoint> jessy_, -S xx.xx.xx.xx,port
[10:00] <sixslap> heh sorry i was thinking to myself
[10:00] <chafe> oh there it is.. the tables are broken
[10:00] <poningru> are there any skating games in the repos?
[10:00] <chafe> ive never seen that happen before
[10:00] <Cliff> which version are you using
[10:00] <poningru> I tried searching but there arent any
[10:01] <jessy_> pinpoint, i've tryed yesterday and if i make this, the password of user account are not the same as i configured them
[10:01] <sonasks> man proftpd.conf
[10:01] <chafe> yep all the options are still greyed out
[10:01] <chafe> wooo
[10:01] <pinpoint> pure-ftpd -a 1007 -B -w -E -O clf:/var/log/pureftpd.log -R -U 022:022 -S xx.xx.xx.xx,xx -p 8000:65520
[10:01] <Cliff> try: su root network-admin
[10:01] <jessy_> what is 8000:65520 ?
[10:02] <pinpoint> -p for passive
[10:02] <pinpoint> you can take that out
[10:02] <Cliff> do you have root enabled
[10:02] <jessy_> root under ubuntu ? or sudo ? :s
[10:02] <sonasks> open the admin utility from terminal with sudo
[10:02] <Cliff> i enabled root in ubuntu
[10:02] <pschulz01> Greetings.. I have ubuntu 5.10 running on a MiniMac...   If you're missing that in your hosts file, who knows what else youre missing.
[10:05] <sonasks> burn the sudo !!
[10:05] <sonasks> :D
[10:05] <Cliff> its not convient if you need to do more than 1 thing
[10:06] <chafe> FlannelKing i put it in my hosts file and fixed that,
[10:06] <Cliff> and im in the habit of su so its easier
[10:06] <Psykus> yeah, it remembers that you used sudo, and doesn't ask for your password
[10:06] <chafe> yeah same here
[10:06] <pinpoint> chafe, atleast you got your gethostname() fixed
[10:06] <GeorgeAScott> yeah but sudo has what a 15 minute memory?
[10:06] <GeorgeAScott> is there a way to change the time limit?
[10:06] <chafe> yes, thanks to having to reboot and use REcovery mode
[10:06] <Psykus> 5 extra characters isnt that much
[10:06] <chafe> so i could act like root
[10:06] <RemyLaptop> question: my ubuntu doesn't start up into the X system anymore, just to a shell prompt. anyone got any ideas why ?
[10:06] <Cliff> i ruined this last week
[10:06] <pinpoint> you say that like its a bad thing
[10:06] <Cliff> it was tragic
[10:06] <Psykus> but, do whatever you want
[10:06] <RemyLaptop> I haven't been able to find anything in the inittab that seemed to be causing it
[10:07] <pinpoint> you didnt getyour root power back?
[10:07] <jaro> Hi there. This doesn't belong here very much but... I have RedBoot environment accessible via serial console. It expects Ctrl+C upon connection. How can I do that?
[10:07] <Cliff> i acidently deleted /etc
[10:07] <chafe> gj
[10:07] <farous> RemyLaptop: try /etc/init.d/gdm restart and see what message you get
[10:07] <Cliff> rm -R
[10:07] <Psykus> Cliff, were you using sudo?   * GNOME Display Manager not running
[10:08] <RemyLaptop>                                                           [ ok ]
[10:08] <RemyLaptop>  * Starting GNOME Display Manager...                      [fail]
[10:08] <Cliff> that was an adventure
[10:09] <Cliff> i couldnt ssh or ftp after that because my computer didnt exist after that
[10:09] <brynk> that's a neat trick
[10:09] <farous> RemyLaptop: look at dmesg and /var/log/Xorg.0.log for clues
[10:09] <Cliff> so i used the ubuntu liveCD
[10:10] <RemyLaptop> where would I find this dmesg?
[10:10] <farous> RemyLaptop: did you play with gdm.conf
[10:10] <farous> RemyLaptop: just type dmesg in a terminal
[10:10] <RemyLaptop> not to the best of my knowledge
[10:10] <farous> look at the end of the output
[10:10] <chafe> great. GREAT, great
[10:10] <overrider> what means the abbrevation HTH ?
[10:11] <Psykus> is there anyway to grab firefox <IP_ADDRESS> or whatever the newest version is without completely upgrading to dapper?
[10:11] <RemyLaptop> farous, what am I looking for?
[10:11] <RemyLaptop> there's a whole bunch of crap in there!
[10:11] <foxpaul> is it possible to send an attachment using the "mail" command line?
[10:11] <farous> Psykus: eithere download the new firefox to a local bin like me or follow ubotu link
[10:11] <foxpaul> it's not a text based attachment, it's a pdf
[10:11] <farous> !tell Psykus bout ff1.5
[10:12] <farous> !tell Psykus bout ff
[10:12] <Psykus> about, perhaps?
[10:12] <farous> !tell Psykus bout firefox
[10:12] <brynk> Psykus just download it?
[10:12] <Psykus> !tell Psykus about ff1.5
[10:12] <chafe> goddAMNIT
[10:12] <brynk> farous, i believe so, but don't know how :)
[10:12] <cafuego> Do not use my name in vain.
[10:12] <cafuego> Thank you.
[10:12] <chafe> sorry cafuego
[10:13] <Psykus> i'd rather have apt-get install it
[10:13] <RemyLaptop> farous, there are some warnings about font renderers at the end of the Xorg log file
[10:13] <RemyLaptop> dunno if that might have something to do with it
[10:13] <farous> RemyLaptop: that is not a prob normally
[10:13] <farous> i forgot the firefox factoid shortcut :(
[10:13] <cyne> i have a question, if i have a amd64 kernel, does all of the software take advantage of that?
[10:14] <farous> !+firefox1.5
[10:14] <ubotu> You can use firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[10:14] <farous> there it is
[10:14] <|Bot|> any here russian ?
[10:15] <liable> !ru
[10:15] <ubotu> Pozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke. # russian users please try #ubuntu-ru, there you may get more help
[10:15] <RemyLaptop> is there any way I can revert any files that might be causing the issue to default?
[10:15] <RemyLaptop> (Without having to wipe and reinstall that is)
[10:15] <|Bot|> liable# good )
[10:15] <farous> RemyLaptop: gdm.conf have a factory setting file
[10:15] <farous> but if you did not play with it you do not need to restore it
[10:16] <RemyLaptop> nope, haven't played with it
[10:16] <RemyLaptop> but really not sure why it's going to shell at boot !!!
[10:16] <RemyLaptop> dang nam it
[10:16] <eb_> Just installed breezy on on a machine with a 16M voodoo graphics card.  Only resolution I have available is 640x480.  Tried making sense of xorg.conf man page but no luck.
[10:17] <farous> RemyLaptop: ok go to /var/log/gdm/:0.log might tell you something
[10:17] <chafe> well, the Administrator Mode button doesnt seem to do much for theese grey'd boxes
[10:17] <liable> eb_: try setting the bit depth to 16 or 8, read your xorg.log and see what it says about the other resolutions (prolly not enough memory)
[10:17] <iainm> hey folks. I've been having an issue that I think is with X - at apparently random intervals, the machine stops responding to clicks and keypresses but the mouse pointer continues to move normally. I can still SSH in, and xorg's CPU usage has gone way up to between 45% and 99% or so. Any ideas on debugging this thing?
[10:17] <chafe> now that sudo is working
[10:18] <RemyLaptop> there are a few lines like:
[10:18] <RemyLaptop> Skipping "/usr/X11R6/lib/modules/extensions/libGLcore.a:m_debug_clip.o":  No symbols found
[10:18] <RemyLaptop> that mean anything ?
[10:18] <farous> RemyLaptop: that is normal
[10:18] <RemyLaptop> hm
[10:18] <RemyLaptop> that's all there is
[10:18] <eb_> liable, I doubt it's a memory issue, I've had 1024x768 with badger.  Depth is set to 16 and xorg.conf has all modes from 1280 down in each of the colour modes.
[10:18] <RemyLaptop> that plus warnings about font renderers
[10:19] <CineFX3D_> anyone knows if there is a widget for gnome that shows status of wifi?
[10:19] <farous> RemyLaptop: gdm did not start maybe because it is already on. did you play with your xorg.conf file?
[10:19] <RemyLaptop> farous, I haven't touched xorg
[10:19] <RemyLaptop> it's strange that one day it was working, the next it wasn't....
[10:19] <RemyLaptop> the only thing I remember changing was intalling the art manager
[10:19] <GeorgeAScott> now that i have things the way i want them... things have gotten very boring around here
[10:19] <liable> eb_: well, you can doubt, and then you can know.. so check the log..
[10:20] <GeorgeAScott> other than naut and ff that is
[10:20] <RemyLaptop> I can start gnome find by typing 'startx' once it's booted
[10:20] <iainm> also, presumably unrelated issue, ctrl+alt+f1 doesn't work (although chvt does, and ctrl+alt+f1 and friends work when in terminals that don't have X in them). If I do ctrl+alt+f1 while a terminal has focus, it prints P if nothing running in terminal or ^[O7P otherwise.
[10:20] <RemyLaptop> but it won't boot into gnome...
[10:20] <Psykus> yay, I followed the firefox 1.5 guide, and i'm getting an error when starting firefox
[10:20] <farous> RemyLaptop: i have no idea
[10:20] <RemyLaptop> :-(
[10:20] <Psykus> david@ubuntu:~$ firefox
[10:20] <Psykus> /opt/firefox/firefox-bin: error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++.so.5: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[10:21] <Psykus> oh, nm, forgot to grab that package
[10:21] <Psykus> guess i didn't follow the guide too well :P
[10:21] <eb_> hsynch out of range, guess the automagic didn't work with my monitor.
[10:22] <Psykus> ugh, and now i'm without a browser, can anyone tell me what it says at the top of the page here, for installing that package? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[10:22] <RemyLaptop> question: my ubuntu doesn't start up into the X system anymore, just to a shell prompt. anyone got any ideas why ? It was working fine one day, then next time I turned the comp on, it booted to shell.
[10:22] <farous> Psykus: type mozilla-firefox and you will still have a browser
[10:23] <liable> RemyLaptop: check the log
[10:23] <RemyLaptop> !log
[10:23] <ubotu> RemyLaptop: NO SPEAKE ENLISH! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[10:23] <RemyLaptop> liable, how would I do that ?
[10:23] <Psykus> david@ubuntu:~$ mozilla-firefox
[10:23] <Psykus> run-mozilla.sh: Cannot execute /opt/firefox/mozilla-firefox-bin.
[10:23] <farous> RemyLaptop: he means your pc logs located at /var/log the one i told you about
[10:23] <NoobieAtLinux> ahk
[10:23] <liable> RemyLaptop: sudo grep EE /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[10:24] <NoobieAtLinux> no EE's shown
[10:24] <liable> none at all?
[10:24] <NoobieAtLinux>         (WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown.
[10:24] <NoobieAtLinux> (II) Loading extension MIT-SCREEN-SAVER
[10:24] <NoobieAtLinux> that was what that grep returned
[10:24] <liable> what does startx do?
[10:25] <NoobieAtLinux> it works
[10:25] <NoobieAtLinux> I'm in gnome atm
[10:25] <NoobieAtLinux> it loads it all ok
[10:25] <NoobieAtLinux> (as far as I can tell anyway)
[10:25] <liable> right, so try downgrading gdm, or better yet, check bug
[10:25] <liable> tracking
[10:25] <NoobieAtLinux> ?
[10:25] <liable> !bts
[10:25] <ubotu> Bugger all, I dunno. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, liable
[10:25] <NoobieAtLinux> !bts
[10:25] <liable> !stupid bot
[10:25] <ubotu> stupid liable
[10:25] <NoobieAtLinux> rofl
[10:25] <liable> !bugs
[10:26] <farous> :)
[10:26] <NoobieAtLinux> liable, I wouldn't have a clue how to carry out either of your suggestions.
[10:26] <NoobieAtLinux> :D
[10:26] <liable> meh, there used to be a bts facvtoid
[10:26] <liable> bugzilla..
[10:26] <NoobieAtLinux> how do I check bug tracking ?
[10:27] <liable> a jeez, google ubuntu bug tracking and find a url
[10:27] <NoobieAtLinux> k
[10:27] <NoobieAtLinux> liable, malone is what the new bug tracking system is called
[10:27] <NoobieAtLinux> !malone
[10:28] <liable> really?
[10:28] <liable> !listkeys bugs
[10:28] <ubotu> Factoid search of 'bugs' by key returned no results.
[10:28] <NoobieAtLinux> apparently
[10:28] <CineFX3D_> anyone knows if there is a widget for gnome that shows status of wifi?
[10:28] <NoobieAtLinux> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=118222
[10:28] <pinpoint> right top conner
[10:28] <pinpoint> if you have connection
[10:29] <farous> CineFX3D_: what do you mean by that. the network status applet does that automatically
[10:29] <jo_e> what program do i run to configure my X server?
[10:29] <CineFX3D_> I have wifi going on now.. but I can't ses status of it in gnome
[10:29] <farous> CineFX3D_: right click on the top panel and add netowrk monitor
[10:29] <liable> !drxx jo_e
[10:29] <ubotu> liable: I don't know, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[10:29] <liable> bah
[10:30] <CineFX3D_> I have network connection in top right corner saying eth0 is disconencted...
[10:30] <CineFX3D_> obviously
[10:30] <jiangguowei> what do 'ubuntero' and 'karma' on launchpad.net mean?
[10:30] <liable> jo_e: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[10:30] <tonyyarusso> CineFX3D_: Then make sure the network monitor is showing the wifi connection, not the ethernet card or lo.
[10:30] <jo_e> liable, thanks
[10:30] <farous> CineFX3D_: click on it then select your wirless device obviously :)
[10:30] <CineFX3D_> :)
[10:31] <CineFX3D_> idiot :>
[10:31] <tonyyarusso> jiangguowei: ubuntero means you have digitally signed the Ubuntu Code of Conduct (requires generation and registration of a key), karma is gained by various forms of participation on that site.
[10:32] <munti78> can i use ssh in terminal to transfer files from server to my local machine?
[10:32] <NoobieAtLinux> liable - how would i downgrade gdm ?
[10:33] <farous> munti78: scp is your command
[10:33] <Psykus> is there anyway to stop mounted devices/drives from appearing on the desktop?
[10:33] <tonyyarusso> munti78: Yeah, in the session, scp.
[10:33] <jiangguowei> tonyyarusso:thanks
[10:33] <farous> Psykus: application>system> what was the name of the editor
[10:34] <farous> configuration editor
[10:34] <bimberi> Psykus: Applications -> System Tools -> Configuration Editor, /appl/nautilus/desktop, volumes_visible
[10:34] <farous> Psykus: then select nautilus and look at it there is an option there
[10:34] <bimberi> *apps
[10:34] <liable> NoobieAtLinux: did you check the bug tracker? there is prolly a way to fix it mentioned. if not, then you will need to use dpkg to install it from your cache if you havent deleted it.
[10:35] <Psykus> bimberi, that did it, thanks
[10:35] <tonyyarusso> bimberi, farous: Any chance that sort of thing will become easier to find / more intuitive for new users in the future?
[10:35] <farous> bimberi: thanks am not operating from gnome now :) haven't been for quite a while
[10:35] <NoobieAtLinux> am searching malone atm
[10:35] <CineFX3D_> it would be great if there was gmail notofier for gnome
[10:36] <farous> tonyyarusso: i have no idea am just a user
[10:36] <farous> CineFX3D_: there is
[10:36] <CineFX3D_> farous: but where?
[10:36] <farous> CineFX3D_: though i prefer gnubiff. much more than gmail notifier
[10:36] <CineFX3D_> farous: Why?
[10:37] <tonyyarusso> farous: 'k.
[10:37] <farous> CineFX3D_: because i set it to check gmail and my other emails
[10:37] <CineFX3D_> ah I see.. but I have forwarded all my account to gmail anyways :)
[10:37] <farous> !find gmail
[10:37] <farous> !+gmail-notify
[10:37] <ubotu> Bugger all, I dunno. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, farous
[10:38] <farous> !+find gmail-notify
[10:38] <ubotu> gmail-notify: (gmail new mail notifier), section universe/mail, is optional. Version: 1.6.1-0ubuntu1 (breezy), Packaged size: 23 kB, Installed size: 200 kB
[10:38] <farous> ^   ^ CineFX3D_
[10:38] <NoobieAtLinux> !dpkg
[10:38] <CineFX3D_> hm weird, cause download page on gmail says only windows and mac
[10:38] <CineFX3D_> or this is not from google then?
[10:38] <bimberi> Psykus, farous: np :)
[10:39] <tonyyarusso> CineFX3D_: Seems to be on Sourceforge.
[10:39] <dibblego> where does a CD get mounted to?
[10:39] <bimberi> tonyyarusso: not that i know of :)
[10:39] <farous> dibblego: normally /media
[10:40] <Psykus> dibblego, /media/cdrom#
[10:40] <pinpoint> bah!
[10:40] <dibblego> ah there it is, thanks
[10:40] <Psykus> by that I mean, either cdrom, cdrom1, etc etc
[10:40] <dibblego> when I try to read of my CD, I get cp: cannot open `repositories.zip' for reading: Permission denied
[10:40] <dibblego> why come?
[10:40] <graeme> is there anyway to limit the bandwidth of apt-get
[10:40] <graeme> ?
[10:41] <farous> graeme: what do you mean. Do you mean fewer repos
[10:41] <CineFX3D_> too ba dit has no transparency like the original one :(
[10:41] <graeme> farous: no, like keep the bandwidth that it uses to 3KB/s
[10:42] <tonyyarusso> CineFX3D_: Give it a few months and see if it gets added.
[10:42] <Hmmmm> folks i have a S3 ProSavage8 KM266 vga card, can i get XGL going?
[10:42] <kma> Anyone got experience getting hardware accelerated 3d using a non ATI/nVidia card? The card in question is a Intel GMA 900.. is it even possible?
[10:42] <graeme> farous: so it doesnt kill all the bandwidth at work, and get me in trouble :-)
[10:42] <munti78> farous: I'll look into that, thanks
[10:42] <farous> graeme: sorry do not know
[10:43] <graeme> farous: np, thanks tho
[10:43] <kelmo_lap> graeme, ever used apt-zip before?
[10:43] <farous> graeme: though i think anything is possible if you config iptabs correctly but that is a hell of a job
[10:43] <CineFX3D_> tonyyarusso: Like I have a choice :)
[10:44] <farous> CineFX3D_: try installing gunubiff and setting it up. you will most prob like it
[10:44] <Psykus> have there been any attempts to create an OSX like "dock" for gnome?
[10:45] <tonyyarusso> So I saw a story on the BBC's site today about cracking Enigma messages, and I followed up on the links to look into the project, and the software author's page said it ran at lowest priority blah blah and so wouldn't disturb the system.  So I thought, heck, let's check it out.    Apparently it works okay for someone out there though, because they did crack the first of the three messages (hence the headline), so why not for me?
[10:49] <Ng> Psykus: I believe there are such things in gdesklets
[10:49] <jordo23> Does anyone know what OpenOffice is built in (which toolkit i.e. jsdk, Qt, Gtk+, etc)?
[10:49] <dibblego> tonyyarusso, a classic case of "works on my machine", said the incompetent developer
[10:49] <cubikdice> Gtk isnt it?
[10:49] <tonyyarusso> dibblego: Right.
[10:49] <jordo23> is that true?
[10:49] <Ng> I think Openoffice might be written with its own graphical toolkit that tries to blend into the native one
[10:50] <tonyyarusso> jordo23: I would be tempted to say gtk, but I'm not going to pretend to be sure about that...
[10:51] <Psykus> ooh, interesting
[10:51] <jordo23> I was just asking because I was reading a lot of flame wars on Gnome vs. KDE, and if OpenOffice was built in GTK+ then Gnome is a clear leader in the workplace.
[10:51] <bimberi> xophEr: no idea, believe it will use 'E' as it's going alphabetical - some suggestions are being collected here: http://wiki.kaarsemaker.net/UbuntuNames
[10:51] <tonyyarusso> jordo23: If I am actually right, it would be from seeing it somewhere on their site, so check there, and if you find it, then there's your answer, and if not, I'm nutty, sleep-deprived, and just plain wrong.
[10:51] <Ng> jordo23: flame wars are best avoided
[10:51] <mdeboer> jordo23: don't read those flame wars. waste of time
[10:51] <Ng> jordo23: gnome and kde are different. end of discussion :)
[10:51] <jordo23> I like reading them.
[10:52] <jordo23> I like the debate in it all.
[10:52] <cubikdice> gnome = better thank KDE
[10:52] <cubikdice> ;)
[10:52] <farous> jordo23: i am not sure you can check it on openoffice website but would say most probab qt for this is its default style outside of gnome on every window manager i tried
[10:52] <cubikdice> end of discussion
[10:52] <cubikdice> lol
[10:52] <jordo23> Ng: Not end of discussion when having to have Windows users adopt it in the workplace.
[10:52] <tonyyarusso> jordo23: There is a point there.
[10:53] <Ng> jordo23: a flame war isn't going to help you with that and openoffice runs fine in either, so there really is no discussion to be had - pick the one that works/feels/looks best for you and your users
[10:53] <jordo23> Which would you deploy on a domain workstation?
[10:54] <Ng> personally I would deploy gnome, but gnome is my personal preference of the two. if I was a KDE fan I would presumably deploy KDE
[10:54] <farous> jordo23: users should have a choice they should try then choose what they prefer. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder
[10:54] <phrizer> openoffice uses something like 'gsl' or something.
[10:54] <jordo23> Ng: I lean towards KDE, and I appreciate the ability to have a choice in the matter, and I think it should always be that way, but there's an obvious contridiction in the corporate world.
[10:54] <tonyyarusso> jordo23: I say, walk in with a computer like mine is currently (mainly for curiosity and demonstration purposes) loaded with Gnome, KDE, XFCE, Enlightement, Fluxbox, Openbox, WindowMaker, etc., show them each and have people play around for a few days, and have them tell you what they like.  Or just give everyone everything and have them decide what they want on a whim each morning.  That's the beauty of choice, right?
[10:55] <jordo23> Ng: And....linux users need to remember who the real enemy is..........<coughMicrosoft>
[10:55] <Ng> jordo23: indeed, having two desktops deployed in an organisation could get quite confusing and irritating. perhaps you could involve some users and have them play with both and see if a concensus emerges as to which they prefer
[10:55] <Ng> jordo23: microsoft isn't the enemy, they're just another software maker. Not all of us are driven by a bitter desire to see them penniless and hungry ;)
[10:55] <jordo23> Ng: It's difficult to get backing from upper management.
[10:56] <jordo23> Ng: I don't want Microsoft to be pennyless.  On the contrary.  I just want the market as even as possible.
[10:56] <ara> why is there no UI for printer sharing
[10:57] <tonyyarusso> Ng: Not necessarily penniless and hungry.  Only if they continue operating under illegal business practices, conflicts of interest, and poor programming practice.  I don't mind their existence as a concept, I'll just fight them until they change.
[10:57] <ara> kubuntu has it iirc, but not ubuntu
[10:58] <Ng> tonyyarusso: I'd rather we beat them with better software than whinging ;)
[10:58] <cyne> i've tried kubuntu now i'm going to ubuntu
[10:58] <jordo23> If the market in the business world was even, then 90% of developers and universities wouldn't endorse Microsoft products ultimately creating a reliance on them.
[10:59] <tonyyarusso> Ng: Well of course.  My main tactic has been telling people about the better software, since I've found the vast majority of people aren't even aware of it's existence.  You should have seen the look on my roommates face when I showed him Firefox, Thunderbird, Gaim, and OpenOffice, and then told him it was all free, and then that it would run on Windows too if he wanted to check it out!
[11:00] <djp> asked something similar yesterday, but am hoping for a difinitive answer, if possible. can anyone recommend a webcam that will work with breezy, 'out of the box' so to speak? i'm in the uk.
[11:00] <Psykus> i really don't care what OS or GUI anyone else is running...I just know what I prefer, and I don't try to convert anyone or argue about it
[11:00] <jordo23> Personally, besides the integration of OpenOffice and a groupware suite like Outlook, there really is no reason to purchase Office licensing.
[11:01] <jordo23> If they made OpenOffice integrate with Evolution or something, and had stronger integration with Exchange servers, then Linux could be more easily deployed in the workplace.
[11:01] <felixfoertsch> Hello there - and good morning!
[11:01] <Psykus> Ng, I installed the desklets app, and I now have the "candybar" applet stuck on my cursor >_<
[11:01] <tonyyarusso> Psykus: Well, see, I end up being the one people go to saying "My computer's broken", when the fact of the matter is their software is, so it's personally annoying for me to have people using Microsoft products around me, and a good opportunity to mention/recommend alternatives.
[11:02] <Ng> Psykus: erk, does clicking on the desktop not "drop" it there?
[11:02] <felixfoertsch> Is there anyone who could help me installing an Audigy 2?
[11:02] <Psykus> i think that if you set them up with linux, then it could definitely work
[11:02] <Ng> Psykus: as a worst case scenario you could hit ctrl-alt-f1, log in and kill the gdesklets process
[11:02] <Psykus> i clicked to move the applet, heh
[11:02] <farous> Psykus: click and it will drop it where you want
[11:03] <farous> give it time
[11:03] <Ng> Psykus: if you don't mind missing out on the animation side of things you could just make a non-expanding gnome panel, set it quite large and put a load of launchers on it
[11:03] <tonyyarusso> Psykus: The big thing seems to be getting started.  Nobody wants to change, just from pure inertia, but plopped in front of desktop Linux or open-source apps, they do just fine.
[11:03] <Psykus> i think the problem is, the candybar applet is also a window list
[11:03] <Psykus> so when I click, I just minimize/restore xchat
[11:04] <Psykus> the process is called gdesklets?
[11:04] <Psykus> haha, I have a candybar stuck to my mouse
[11:05] <farous> Psykus: you can open a terminal type gdesklets stop. but normally just move the mouse and click to drop it
[11:06] <Psykus> right, when I click, it just clicks on xchat in the applet
[11:06] <djp> any webcam users here, based in the uk?
[11:07] <Psykus> whew, I got the candybar off :P
[11:07] <londonboi2k3> Hi guys, I have to setup 14 computers in the same way, I know there is closed source software to clone a HD, and compy it on to other PCs but is there a GPL version that I could use! This is for my office call center
[11:07] <holy_cow> londonboi2k3, its easy
[11:07] <hatake_kakashi> dd
[11:07] <holy_cow> no not dd that takes too long
[11:08] <holy_cow> only dd the first 100 sectors of the drive to capture grub
[11:08] <tonyyarusso> londonboi2k3: dd will copy an entire drive, dpkg's set selections lets you just install the same set of software packages.
[11:08] <holy_cow> then use partimage to restore the backed up copy of the partition
[11:08] <tonyyarusso> londonboi2k3: Also, rsync can be handy.
[11:08] <GeorgeAScott> so i've got 2000 WMA files to convert... anything more stable than sound converter? it's crashed thrice on me
[11:08] <Kamping_Kaiser> try mplayer?
[11:08] <holy_cow> lastly use any tool to reset the remaining linux swap partition to linux swap
[11:08] <Ng> GeorgeAScott: you might well be able to use something like mencoder/ffmpeg
[11:09] <pinpoint> WMA?
[11:09] <holy_cow> btw. you can use partimage to take an image of an entire 2 gig partition in about 2 minutes or less
[11:09] <londonboi2k3> hmm thanks guys, I think the idea is that we have a copy of the entire HD, which is 4GBs so that we can restore the entire HD without having to download the packages
[11:09] <holy_cow> imaging full ubuntu installs can take about 3 minutes per drive
[11:09] <GeorgeAScott> pinpoint: i started my collection quite awhile back...
[11:09] <holy_cow> with that technique
[11:09] <holy_cow> if you try to dd the entire hard drive, it will take 20 minutes to hours per drive, depending on size
[11:09] <londonboi2k3> holy_cow partimage might sound usfull
[11:09] <mdeboer> yes, mencoder can do that
[11:10] <tonyyarusso> londonboi2k3: Um, you need 13 backups?
[11:10] <holy_cow> forget the word usefull, trust me, anyone that says dd a partition has never dd'd more than a few hundred megs
[11:10] <mdeboer> with some simple shell script
[11:10] <holy_cow> you can't dd 80 gig hd's and remain sane
[11:10] <londonboi2k3> not 13 backups, I am setuping up 1 pc and i want it cloned to the other 13
[11:10] <holy_cow> thats what i told you
[11:10] <holy_cow> take it or leave it
[11:10] <holy_cow> i clone entire drives with the technique in 3 minutes per drive
[11:11] <tonyyarusso> holy_cow: Okay, so what does partimage do that allows it to be so fast, but still have information?
[11:11] <pinpoint> holy_cow, how many boxes you got?
[11:11] <holy_cow> 200
[11:11] <pinpoint> holy cow!
[11:11] <pinpoint> lol
[11:11] <liable> !moo
[11:11] <ubotu> My cat's name is Mittens! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, liable
[11:11] <txwikinger2> londonboi2k3: if you pout the 2 hds on the different ide-bus and switch dma on, you can copy a 40G HD within 1h
[11:11] <txwikinger2> with dd
[11:11] <mjr> tonyyarusso, apparently it has some FS knowledge and copies only used blocks (this from the deb description)
[11:12] <holy_cow> tonyyarusso, well i don't frankly know, its clearly not reading every bit like dd, as its fricking fast, but then again its  not doing reads like a standard os calls because its so fricking fast
[11:12] <holy_cow> my average / partition install is 2 gigs
[11:12] <tonyyarusso> mjr: Okay, that sounds like it could help, but I still don't see how it can make such a drastic difference.
[11:12] <holy_cow> it takes 2 to 3 minutes to grab the data to an image, 2 to 3 minutes to put it back to another partition
[11:12] <mjr> tonyyarusso, well, I could see how it would, especially the writing of the image
[11:12] <elaverick> Hi, I think my XWindow config is wrong.  Nothing will display, how can I avoid booting into X so I can fix it from the shell?
[11:12] <pinpoint> what are requirements atleast for ubuntu?
[11:12] <tonyyarusso> holy_cow: Hrm, all right.  I guess we just accept that there's magic involved!
[11:12] <londonboi2k3> holy_cow, will try partimage as you suggested, looked at the home page and that is what I need, thanks
[11:12] <pinpoint> can it run on pentium 2 500mhz+
[11:13] <holy_cow> note: you must dd the first 100 sectors to grab both the bootsector and grub as grub installs it self right in the first sector after bootsector
[11:13] <tonyyarusso> pinpoint: Yes.
[11:13] <pinpoint> without lag?
[11:13] <pinpoint> and see a printer
[11:13] <Cornu> elaverick: You should have a safe mode in the grub list, don't you ?
[11:13] <holy_cow> tonyyarusso, no we don't what you are going to accept is that i don't care what it does, it clearly uses a technique i didn't bother researching, but i have repeatedly use it successfully
[11:13] <tonyyarusso> pinpoint: Although you might want to consider not using Gnome/KDE, but something lighter like XFCE or Fluxbox instead.
[11:13] <holy_cow> londonboi2k3, good luck
[11:14] <elaverick> Cornu: there are recovery modes, is that what you mean?
[11:14] <liable> elaverick: you can get a term by pressing alt+ctl+F1 then you can stop x if you want, with, sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[11:14] <londonboi2k3> thannks
[11:14] <tonyyarusso> holy_cow: Well, something like that anyway, yeah.
[11:14] <Cornu> elaverick: Aye, it should boot your system w/out launching X server
[11:14] <holy_cow> tonyyarusso, :)