[00:21] <buenouanq> Installation problems on a Macbook5,1.  Can get to GRUB just fine with the options: -Try without install -Install -OEM install -Check disc for defects
[00:21] <buenouanq> Selecting any of these leads to a blank screen, then some lines of various colors appear at the top.  Please help.  Any ideas?
[00:32] <buenouanq> new question:
[00:33] <buenouanq> is there a mac specific image of 12.10?
[01:01] <xubuntu545> hello
[01:01] <FsDK> lol
[01:02] <FsDK> installing xubuntu!
[01:10] <buenouanq> is there a mac specific image of 12.10?
[01:43] <nsix> i have an issue, can anyone help?
[01:45] <torax> nsix: go ahead, whats the problem
[01:46] <nsix> im new to ubuntu. i just installed 3 desktop enviros and rebooted. when i logged in i greeted by a blank purple screen
[01:46] <nsix> no login/password option
[01:46] <nsix> didnt know that i had to reboot after each install
[01:47] <torax> what packages did you installed?
[01:48] <nsix> cinnamon via command line and kde via the store
[01:48] <nsix> maybe it was just these two
[01:48] <nsix> er
[01:49] <nsix> im sorry not kde, i installed gnome shell from the store
[01:49] <nsix> so gnome shell and cinnamon
[01:50] <torax> nsix: you could try " sudo dpkg-reconfigure lightdm "
[01:51] <nsix> okay :/
[01:51] <nsix> what does that do exactly?
[01:52] <torax> press ctrl+alt+f1 log in to terminal and write that command
[01:52] <torax> um, it reconfigures your default login manager
[01:52] <Unit193> At the login screen, what session is selected?
[01:53] <nsix> i dont see any text at the login screen
[01:53] <nsix> just a purple wallpaper
[01:53] <nsix> i cant login as guest or user
[02:11] <nsix> Im back
[02:12] <nsix> I tried the reconfig lightdm command
[02:12] <nsix> but it didnt work
[02:12] <nsix> i reran the three commands that i used to install cinnamon, that didn't work either
[02:13] <nsix> if anyone else is able to assist, i install 2 desktops environments at once and rebooted. when i rebooted i was greeting by a purple login page. but no login/password field.
[02:13] <holstein> nsix: i would purge the PPA's you likely added, and try and get back to default
[02:13] <nsix> so short from a reinstall, im stuck
[02:14] <nsix> im a day 1 noob
[02:14] <nsix> how do i do that
[02:14] <holstein> nsix: well, you might want to just reinstall, and just relax.. sit with it a bit, as-is
[02:14] <nsix> im interested in fixing the issue
[02:14] <holstein> nsix: juggling desktop environments is not that advanced, but its not trivial
[02:15] <holstein> nsix: remove the sources you added
[02:15] <holstein> !ppa
[02:15] <holstein> nsix: undo what you added that is likely breaking your system
[02:15] <fishtech> How can I install theme packs for xfce and where would I get them? Maybe you guys have a trusted site. Some I found I was not sure about.
[02:15] <holstein> or, elaborate as to what you issu is
[02:15] <holstein> issue*
[02:15] <nsix> so i type !ppa... thats it?
[02:15] <holstein> nsix: no.. you'll need to remove the ppa's you added
[02:16] <holstein> nsix: what would i do? reinstall.. and come here *before* you add desktop environments
[02:16] <holstein> nsix: using live CD"s is a nice way to see desktops without breaking your current install
[02:16] <holstein> fishtech: i just add the ones n the repos and tweak from there
[02:18] <nsix> any way to see a list of PPA's install in order of being installed?
[02:18] <fishtech> How do I add from repos? I'm still learning linux so I'm still lost on things.
[02:18] <holstein> nsix: you can link to, or share what you have done so far, and a volunteer could help you undo that
[02:18] <holstein> nsix: no.. thats why i suggest you *dont* add ppa's.. they can break things
[02:19] <holstein> fishtech: i just search in the package manager of my chioce and add.. i like synaptic
[02:19] <fishtech> Ah, I can do that. Thank you.
[02:22] <nsix> the first thing I did was to install "gnome shell" from the Ubuntu Software Center
[02:22] <nsix> second I ran these three commands to install cinnamon
[02:22] <nsix> sudo add-apt-repository ppa:gwendal-lebihan-dev/cinnamon-stable
[02:22] <nsix> sudo apt-get update
[02:22] <nsix> sudo apt-get install cinnamon
[02:23] <nsix> I rebooted and then was greeted by a blank login page. No text what so ever. No wallpaper. Just a solid purple window.
[02:23] <nsix> The purpole window did have a black border around it.
[02:23] <nsix> when i ctrl+alt+del it will shutdown and I see the Ubuntu logo and progress bar, then I reboot
[02:24] <nsix> ctrl+alt+f1 works
[02:31] <holstein> !tty
[02:31] <holstein> ^^ you can use those as well, when you are "stuck"
[02:31] <holstein> nsix: what happened when you tried sudo dpkg-reconfigure lightdm as torax suggested?
[02:33] <nsix> when I pressed ctrl+alt+f7 I was pushed back to the desktop/login screen but this time it was solid black
[02:34] <nsix> well a black box with black borders
[02:34] <nsix> the purple was replaced by black
[02:34] <nsix> i rebooted but was greeted by the same purple screen as before
[02:35] <holstein> nsix: i would say, it'll take you some time to learn how to rescue that system.. i would start over, and take it easy
[02:35] <holstein> nsix: use XFCE for a while, as-is
[02:35] <holstein> try mate from a live CD
[02:36] <nsix> so reinstall :/
[02:36] <holstein> nsix: it takes me about 8 minutes to install xubuntu
[02:37] <Unit193> (Little more for configuration)  Mate and cinnamon aren't officially supported in 12.10, but 13.04 has cinnamon in the repos.
[02:37] <holstein> nsix: otherwise, what happened when you tried the command?
[02:37] <nsix> nothing
[04:36] <xubuntu026> hi
[04:36] <xubuntu026> I'm new
[04:36] <xubuntu026> xfce o gnome 3.6?
[04:39] <holstein> xubuntu026: xfce and gnome are both destkop environments
[04:39] <holstein> xubuntu026: you would use gnome *instead* of xfce
[04:39] <holstein> xubuntu026: you just open the pacakge manager of your choice and search "gnome"
[04:39] <holstein> xubuntu026: you can ask in #ubuntu as well
[09:37] <qwertz_> why does my xubuntu 12.10 lock the screen on suspend although i ticked that in the settings manager?
[09:39] <TheSheep> qwertz_: as far as I remember there are two places where that setting is, one in the screensaver and one in the power manager, and you have to tick both
[09:39] <TheSheep> qwertz_: and yes, it's silly
[09:41] <qwertz_> TheSheep, you mean "Lock Screen After X minutes"?
[09:47] <qwertz_> got it. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2078730
[09:47] <qwertz_> this is stupid
[09:48] <TheSheep> yeah, it's an eternal work in progress
[09:51] <baizon> a question, i want to backup my system. What conf files/dirs should i backup besides my /home folder?
[10:11] <qwertz_> baizon, from my experience: none.
[10:12] <qwertz_> make sure not to forget all "dot" dirs in ~
[10:12] <lestus> sup
[10:22] <baizon> qwertz_: wont happen
[11:13] <nantou> i need to use evolution torified, for that I need a command that is stored somewhere in the registry of commands, but I cannot locate it. Is there any app or command that allows me to search for any specific command? IE, "evolution"?
[11:16] <TheSheep> nantou: the registry of commands?
[11:16] <nantou> forgive the broken english, i dont even know if thats the correct term
[11:16] <nantou> the list of commands you write in a terminal is called...
[11:17] <TheSheep> history?
[11:17] <TheSheep> you can search the terminal command history by pressing ctrl+r
[11:29] <nantou> ok...
[11:29] <nantou> thanks
[12:46] <someone235> Hey, when I try to access SFTP through the file manager, It doesn't respond. Someone can help me with this?
[14:36] <roasted> hello!
[14:37] <roasted> Is there a way to make the "home" desktop icon open Nautilus instead of Thunar? Thunar is being problematic and I have Nautilus set as the default file manager but I specifically want that home icon to open Nautilus as well.
[14:37] <GridCube> change the preffered applications
[14:37] <GridCube> preferred
[14:40] <roasted> I did
[14:40] <roasted> It changes Nautilus to default for everything EXCEPT that home icon on my desktop.
[14:41] <roasted> I want the home icon specifically to launchy Nautilus because the home icon is only delete-able from the system settings > desktop menu.
[14:41] <roasted> Long story short, I'm using Xubuntu as the OS of choice for old computer sthat I'm repurposing and donating to people with financial hardships, particularly ones with kids who could benefit from having a computer with a word processor and educational games etc.
[14:42] <GridCube> i remember a ubuntu question site about this subject, did you googled for an answer?
[14:42] <roasted> I like the thought of that home icon only being delete-able from the system settings menu as it'll be an extra deterrent to not have that icon deleted off of their desktop. I just think it'll be easier for brand new users if I can figure this out for them before I hand systems out.
[14:42] <roasted> I did, but all I could find was info relating to using Nautilus on X ubuntu - not specifically using Nautilus as the default for this specific icon on Xubuntu.
[14:43] <roasted> I'd be fine with using Thunar if Thunar wouldn't take 60 seconds to launch. I seem to be getting hit with that gvfs bug that has been around for the better part of two years now :(
[14:43] <GridCube> just add a launched for nautilus and remove that one
[14:43] <roasted> oh, a lau ncher...
[14:44] <roasted> let me fire up my VM and see. (I'm not at home to verify it on the main i mage I'm doing)
[14:45] <roasted> Thanks for the insight GridCube  :)
[16:37] <Rogach> Hello! Can I find downloadable images of Xubuntu 10.10 somewhere?
[16:40] <bazhang> Rogach, why ever would you want that. its not supported any longer
[16:40] <baizon> Rogach: no
[16:40] <baizon> why not 12.04?
[16:40] <GridCube> you... can... but you wont get support for those
[16:40] <roasted> For kicks I just installed Xubuntu, but that icon thhing still doesn't apply. The application launcher I created I can't get into the default icons field.
[16:41] <Rogach> bazhang:There is some problem with video drivers - we tried to get it working with 12.04, but failed. Also, we hope that the memory consumption will be a bit lower - < 256 mb of memory on board, and 12.04 seems to have troubles with that.
[16:41] <GridCube> roasted, what?
[16:41] <Rogach> GridCube: Where?
[16:42] <roasted> GridCube: from earlier, I want to add a new icon to the Default Icons section of System Settings - Desktop - Icons tab - Default Icons. I can't do that.
[16:42] <GridCube> Rogach, http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/releases/10.10/
[16:42] <GridCube> Rogach, i want to repeat: no support
[16:43] <Rogach> GridCube: I know that :)
[16:43] <GridCube> roasted, sorry im not understanding you
[16:43] <bazhang> Rogach, no security updates at all. its very unwise to use
[16:43] <GridCube> you want to change the icon for a launcher
[16:43] <Rogach> GridCube: There's no xubuntu on that page :(
[16:44] <GridCube> Rogach, i wouldn't expect it to be, no
[16:44] <Rogach> GridCube: Eh. Sad.
[16:45] <GridCube> http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/releases/xubuntu/
[16:45] <GridCube> only ones stored are those
[16:46] <Rogach> GridCube: Well, I know one place where 6.06 still works, powering a mail server :)
[16:46] <roasted> GridCube: I'm not sure how else I can explain it...
[16:46] <roasted> GridCube: System Settings - Desktop - Icons tab - Default Icons. How can I add something there?
[16:46] <GridCube> Rogach, http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/releases/xubuntu/releases/10.04/release/
[16:47] <Rogach> GridCube: That was not exactly what we wanted, just update system was broken, and we left it as-is.
[16:47] <GridCube> Rogach, welp sorry 'bout that
[16:47] <Rogach> GridCube: :)
[16:47] <Rogach> GridCube: Thank you!
[16:47] <GridCube> not much else we can do from here
[16:49] <GridCube> roasted, i dont think you can do that no
[16:50] <GridCube> you can change the icon for the launcher itself
[16:50] <GridCube> but not add an icon to xfdesktop to my knowlede
[16:55] <roasted> GridCube: what I want to do is get Thunar off of the "Home" function and assign it to Nautilus... since Thunar seem sot be suffering from a 2 year old bug. <_<
[16:56] <roasted> ya know, I got a better idea.
[16:56] <roasted> I'll remove home, add the Nautilus launcher, and adjust the permissions to it
[16:56] <roasted> that way I can work around this limitation
[16:56] <GridCube> roasted, if its the lag on launch, thats been fixed on newer thunars
[16:57] <roasted> GridCube: I'm full updated, upgraded, etc in 12.04 - no fix.
[16:57] <roasted> GridCube: is that osmething I have to PPA/compile in?
[16:58] <GridCube> roasted, first there is a silly simple workaround, then you can get the 12.10 thunar version, using a ppa for xfce 4.10, then you can get a newer-newer version of thunar that even has tabbed browsing and what not
[16:59] <roasted> GridCube: that sounds good. Got a guide handy?
[17:01] <GridCube> https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/775117 answer 13 has the workaround, dead simple
[17:02] <roasted> oh, I read about this elsewhere, but I thought ti disabled all network capability with samba shares.
[17:02] <roasted> One user on another source commented, I don't use file sharing services anyway like samba so it's fine if I don't have that functionality.
[17:02] <GridCube> you can get the "semi oficial" ppa for 4.10  http://www.webupd8.org/2012/05/install-xfce-410-in-xubuntu-1204.html
[17:02] <roasted> I took that as setting this to false means there's no smb browsing capability whatsoever.
[17:03] <GridCube> you will taint your 12.04 though, so no oficial support for hat
[17:03] <GridCube> roasted, it works her
[17:03] <GridCube> e
[17:03] <roasted> I think I'll try this fix.
[17:03] <roasted> the workaround that is.
[17:03] <roasted> As long as I can still do smb://192.168.x.x to my samba server, this will be perfect.
[17:03] <GridCube> you should be able to
[17:03] <roasted> awesome
[17:03] <roasted> thanks!
[17:03] <GridCube> its simply not loaded at boot
[17:03] <GridCube> or launch
[17:05] <roasted> I'm fine with that. Just as long as it responds when I hit smb://etc.etc
[17:05] <roasted> I'mheading home for lunch so I'll give it a shot then.
[17:05] <roasted> thanks again!
[17:39] <chaz_z> hey guys, I installed KDE desktop on my xubuntu installation. When I'm in KDE, gtk widgets aren't themed. Obviously I need to do something so they look nice again. here's a screenie: http://i.imgur.com/hmrhw6f.png
[17:40] <chaz_z> anyone online?
[17:40] <laite> chaz_z: I'm not that familiar with KDE but I'd think there's some option in its settings
[17:41] <chaz_z> changing widget skins using the kde settings doesn't seem to work :(
[17:42] <laite> there are (I think) two settings in KDE, for QT and for gtk, you need gtk settings
[17:42] <chaz_z> hm, I wonder what the gtk settings application name is?
[17:42] <laite> try asking #kde ?
[17:43] <chaz_z> good idea
[17:44] <genii-around> !info qtcurve
[18:05] <bullgard4> When I boot up my computer. Xubuntu 12.04.2 automatically starts a certain command-line program.  How to find out where this start command is located on my hard disk?
[18:06] <baizon> bullgard4: check session and startup
[18:07] <baizon> there should be a path
[18:39] <roasted> hello!
[18:39] <roasted> Thunar proved to be a pita even with the workaround in the network mount file.
[18:39] <roasted> Nautilus ftw.
[18:40] <baizon> have you tried Thunar 1.6?
[18:41] <roasted> No.
[18:41] <roasted> Is it available for 12.04?
[18:41] <baizon> roasted: http://www.webupd8.org/2012/11/install-thunar-with-tabs-support-in.html
[18:41] <roasted> oh boy <3 <3 <3
[18:47] <roasted> Thunar still takes a freakin hour to start.
[18:47] <roasted> Nautilus ftw x2
[18:48] <roasted> cancel that, seems as if I'm still on 1.2.3............
[18:48] <roasted> <_<
[18:49] <roasted> in synaptic I marked thunar 1.6 to be upgraded, and it flags xubuntu-desktop as to be removed.
[18:49] <roasted> I'm done with this. Thunar is too much fuss.
[18:50] <baizon> roasted: please clear the cache
[18:50] <baizon> hehe ok
[18:51] <roasted> claer what cache
[19:04] <roasted> ah it doesn't matter. things are working fine with nautilus so I'm just going to run with that plan.
[20:23] <bullgard4> baizon: Which "session" do you mean? /usr/share/software-center/softwarecenter/ui/gtk3/session, /usr/share/doc/sqlite3-doc/session, /usr/share/indicators/session, /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/xfce4/session, /usr/lib/ruby/1.8/cgi/session, /home/detlef/.compiz-1/session, /home/detlef/.kde/share/config/session, /home/detlef/.compiz/session, ,/home/detlef/.gconf/desktop/gnome/session, /var/lib/pam/session?
[20:26] <KeyboardNotFound> how to restart user graphical settings ?
[20:26] <KeyboardNotFound> to default ?
[20:28] <bullgard4> KeyboardNotFound: What do you mean by "user graphical settings"?
[20:39] <Phoon> Which packages do I need to install to get a working Eclipse install for Android?
[21:16] <kzetts> Hi
[21:17] <kzetts> Do you guys use a 3rd party app for theme management? I copied a gtk theme and an xfwm theme into ~/.themes and neither are showing up in the appearance settings tool.
[21:17] <kzetts> Any ideas?
[21:17] <knome> kzetts, did you extract the themes?
[21:17] <kzetts> yes
[21:18] <knome> kzetts, does it happen with all themes or just some specific ones?
[21:18] <kzetts> This is the first that I've tried
[21:18] <kzetts> After extracting the xfwm theme
[21:18] <kzetts> its just a folder with a bunch of pixmaps in it
[21:18] <kzetts> and the gtk theme
[21:18] <rzyz> Hello, thunar delete entries in ~/.gtk-bookmarks that are unreachable. I don't want that. How do it?
[21:18] <kzetts> inside the directory is a .emerald file, and another tarball
[21:19] <rzyz> it networks marks
[21:19] <rzyz> is*
[21:19] <knome> kzetts, the xfwm theme should appear under "window manager"
[21:19] <kzetts> Oh
[21:19] <kzetts> it did.
[21:19] <knome> kzetts, the emerald file doesn't sound like something that should work with xfce
[21:19] <kzetts> Perfect
[21:23] <kzetts> Great
[21:23] <kzetts> Now most thinks look better
[21:23] <kzetts> But it seems that the themes have messed up my panel
[21:23] <kzetts> Like the indicator icons are all wonky.
[21:30] <Jutas> hi guys. I would lik to know  in which folder has the files of look and apperience over the themes and icons? i put the folder in those but it's not good enough
[21:49] <lestus> is everyone still just using 12.04 lts for stability or did everyone upgrade to 12.10 ?
[21:50] <torax> lestus: im using 12.04
[21:51] <g16> lestus: I'm using both
[21:52] <recon_lap> 12.04 :) , seems a lot of Luddites here
[21:53] <aicasn-V> 12.04
[22:02] <lestus> nice
[22:12] <David-A> lestus: I'm on 10.04 :)  people use the LTS releases if they only want to upgrade about every 3d year. over time the LTS:es should also be more stable.


[02:01] <lotuspsychje> good morning
[02:01] <guiverc> G'day lotuspsychje
[02:02] <lotuspsychje> hey guiverc
[14:51] <lotuspsychje> i didnt see a bionic eol thread on the lists yet? or did it show elsewhere? https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-security-announce/
[14:53] <lotuspsychje> oh got it https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-announce/2023-May/000290.html
[15:00] <lotuspsychje> !no bionic is <reply> Ubuntu 18.04 (Bionic Beaver) was the 28th release of Ubuntu. Support ended May 31st, 2023. See !eol, !pro and https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-announce/2023-May/000290.html


[00:46] <PManning395> Hello?
[00:47] <GridCube> !hi
[00:50] <PManning395> Hello! I had a question about Xubuntu and LiveUSBs
[00:50] <XRS1> k
[00:52] <PManning395> I have a laptop that I would like to set up as a netbook, as the previous harddrive is shot. That being said, I would like to use Xubuntu on a LiveUSB to act as the OS. Without a hard drive, would I be able to use the Xubuntu as the only OS?
[00:52] <XRS1> yes
[00:53] <PManning395> Ok. And is there a way to set it up that it just launches the OS, so it doesnt ask every time if I want toeither try it or install it?
[00:53] <XRS1> you can install xubuntu onto a USB flash drive or an SD card
[00:53] <PManning395> An SD card? I neer would have thought of that.
[00:53] <PManning395> never*
[00:53] <XRS1> be warned, it usually guesses wrong and installs the bootloader to the wrong USB drive by default, if that happens, boot from the live USB and run boot-repair
[00:54] <XRS1> when installing from USB to USB/SD
[00:54] <GridCube> ^ listen to him
[00:55] <PManning395> I would only have the flash drive as the liveUSB to be plugged in, I wouldn't have any other storage devices installed. Would that still be an issue? I would try the SD, but I don't have one handy at the moment. Otherwise I think i would install the liveUSB to the SD Directly.
[00:55] <PManning395> That was another question that I just remmebered. If I use the Flash drive as a liveUSB, will I be able to save files to it?
[00:55] <XRS1> you would have to select "Something Else" at the disk setup part.
[00:56] <PManning395> Ok
[00:56] <GridCube> PManning395, you will need to install from somewhere to the otherwhere
[00:56] <XRS1> wait
[00:56] <XRS1> yeah
[00:56] <XRS1> no you cant install from the live to the live
[00:56] <GridCube> like ask someone to loan you a pendrive for a few hours
[00:57] <XRS1> you can reconfigure grub's boot options so it just boots to desktop
[00:57] <GridCube> mmhm
[00:57] <PManning395> I mean, I would set up the live disk, and have the extra space (say 3gbs) Could I use the extra gb's for storage of files?
[00:58] <PManning395> And the Grub menu? Aight, ill have to look into that.
[00:58] <XRS1> but running as live instead of an actual install is much slower
[00:58] <PManning395> I don't have a spot to actually isntall it to
[00:58] <PManning395> Since my hard drive (or cable) is completely messed up
[00:59] <GridCube> PManning395, using two pendrives, or a pendrive and a sdcard, you can install from one to the other
[00:59] <GridCube> no need for a "classic" hard drive
[00:59] <XRS1> what i do if im gonna run a live disk is delete the casper-rw file (using a diff computer that can boot on its own) and creat a new EXT2 partition labeled casper-rw    this partition is where everything will save to
[01:01] <XRS1> this way you can have more than the limit of 4GB of live persistence
[01:01] <GridCube> using unetbootin you can check an option called "reserve space for data"
[01:01] <XRS1> ah nice
[01:01] <XRS1> much easier
[01:05] <xubuntu438> Hello?
[01:07] <GridCube> !hi | xubuntu438
[01:08] <xubuntu438> I am brand new to linux and to whatever kind of chat this is
[01:08] <xubuntu438> where do I start?
[01:08] <PManning395> Apologies, I am back.
[01:09] <PManning395> Ok, I will look into that. Thank you again for the help everyone!
[01:13] <xubuntu438> My install is complete and I need to restart, how do I return to this chat?
[01:18] <PManning395> Ok, so i'm using unetbootin
[01:18] <PManning395> And towards the bottom it says "Space reserved to preserve files across reboots (ubuntu only)" and then MB's
[01:19] <PManning395> Since im using xubuntu, do I need to worry about this?
[01:22] <XRS1> no
[01:22] <PManning395> ok, thank you
[01:22] <GridCube> xubuntu is basically ubuntu at that level
[01:24] <XRS1> xubuntu, edubuntu, mythbuntu, Ubuntu Studio and lubuntu are all Canonical backed Ubuntu.
[01:26] <XRS1> oh yeah left out kubuntu
[01:27] <PManning395> ah, ok
[01:27] <PManning395> makes sense
[01:32] <GridCube> XRS1, and gnome-ubuntu
[01:40] <XRS1> news to me
[02:01] <xubuntu669> hello. I have xubuntu version 13.04 and seem to be having trouble with the glEdgeFlag() function functioning properly under its openGL libraries. I am running my version of Xubuntu in a virtual machine on virtualbox.
[02:02] <xubuntu669> Any ideas on what I could do to fix this?
[02:15] <PManning395> Xrs1
[02:20] <PManning395> how do I launch Xubuntu as Try it automatically?
[03:57] <hylian> hello
[05:00] <xubuntu044> hola
[05:09] <yeyeman> firefox scrolling is incredibly laggy
[05:09] <yeyeman> anyway to fix?
[05:15] <Unit193> yeyeman: Disable smooth scrolling?
[05:21] <yeyeman> it didn't help
[07:37] <yeyeman> xubuntu seems to save my session between sessions
[07:37] <yeyeman> even though I have not ticked the "save session" box on the logout splash screen
[07:37] <yeyeman> How can I disable it?
[07:38] <baizon> yeyeman: http://forum.xfce.org/viewtopic.php?pid=23391
[08:50] <nerdtron> yeyeman, close all your windows, shutdown and CHECK the "save sessions"... on your future shutdowns, UNCHECK the "save sessions"
[08:51] <MoL0ToV> i have a problem with xscreensaver, don't authenticate even with correct password
[08:53] <MoL0ToV> also gnome-screensaver
[09:43] <pipe84> hi all, just installed xubuntu 13.04 on my HP laptop with ATI HD6320, I managed to put the brightness to maximum, but the keys (F2-F3) to increase or decrease brightness does not work, either with Fn. In graphics mode I can not increase / decrease brightness because I find the option. I appreciate the help
[09:54]  * USAtrucker slaps USAtrucker around a bit with a large trout
[15:56] <drc> I just noticed that http://xubuntu.org/getxubuntu/ has no listing (nor mention) of md5 (or any other hash function).  Q's: 1) How are folks supposed to check their copy of the ISO before use, and 2) Was this by design or an "opps" ?
[15:57] <Sysi> one thin is that you don't need that with torrent download
[15:58] <Sysi> *thing
[15:58] <drc> OK...but there are direct DL's links there also.
[15:59] <Unit193> MD5sums are on the locations page, mirror downloads.
[15:59] <drc> Unit193: You are correct :)
[16:02] <drc> thanks
[16:48] <rosemball> sup guys
[16:48] <rosemball> what is the latest kernel version for xubuntu?
[16:49] <elfy> 3.11.0-7-generic here
[16:49] <Sysi> !info linux-generic
[16:49] <rosemball> !info linux-generic
[16:49] <Sysi> !ubottu
[16:50] <rosemball> elfy did you update it from source or from main repositories?
[16:50] <elfy> no - I'm using the dev version of xubuntu - that's the current kernel for that
[16:51]  * Unit193 has 3.11.0-u193, but compiled it.
[16:51] <rosemball> okay, I think I'll wait for 13.10 then
[16:52] <rosemball> thanks for the answes guys
[16:52] <rosemball> answers
[16:52] <elfy> welcome
[17:02] <GridCube> !info linux-generic saucy
[17:08] <c2tarun> hi friends, anyone using chromium here, I am having problem with magnetic links
[17:09] <rosemball> c2tarun, what problem?
[17:10] <c2tarun> when I click on any magnet link I get a message to launch application, when I launch application I get an error message.
[17:10] <c2tarun> let me share a screenshot with you
[17:11] <c2tarun> rosemball, I get this msg when I click on magnet link icon: http://www.zimagez.com/zimage/screenshot-09112013-104059pm.php
[17:12] <c2tarun> rosemball, when I click on launch application I get this msg: http://www.zimagez.com/zimage/screenshot-09112013-104147pm.php
[17:12] <rosemball> which program do you use for bit torrent protocol?
[17:16] <c2tarun> rosemball, deluge
[17:16] <rosemball> http://askubuntu.com/questions/44849/how-to-configure-chrome-to-open-magnet-urls-with-deluge
[17:16] <rosemball> see if this help
[18:51] <xubuntu668> Using xub 12.04.3 after nvidia update it boots into the prompt. it's a dual boot Win XP and grub is fine
[18:52] <xubuntu668> can someone please help?
[18:57] <xubuntu668> I can provide all tech info necessary from the prompt I am using another machine side by side
[18:59] <GridCube> xubuntu668, from the grub stage choose a previous linux version to boot from
[18:59] <GridCube> try to see if that works
[19:00] <xubuntu668> no previous kernel. was removed after all worked. current version is .53
[19:01] <xubuntu668> i know it was stupid
[19:01] <GridCube> if that fails xubuntu668, try to go to /etc/X11 and rename xorg.conf using mv xorg.conf xorg.conf.old and reboot, system should reboot to default grafic drivers
[19:01] <xubuntu668> ok. brb
[19:03] <xubuntu668> no xorg.conf
[19:04] <GridCube> then you are not using nvidia drivers
[19:04] <GridCube> xubuntu668, try this, sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop --reinstall
[19:05] <serraphyn> how do I stop the xubuntu desktop from auto starting?  Like I want it to start with the login/password prompt only in the non-GUI setup
[19:05] <Sysi> serraphyn: remove lightdm
[19:05] <xubuntu668> unable to write to /var/cache/apt/
[19:06] <GridCube> Sysi, aint that a bit overkilling?
[19:06] <Sysi> serraphyn: or look into upstart guides about disabling it
[19:06] <GridCube> xubuntu668, did you sudo it
[19:06] <GridCube> ?
[19:07] <Sysi> GridCube: it's the easiest way, though Iäm not sure if you can get authentication in xfce session to work without a DM
[19:07] <xubuntu668> yes, also it says not using locking for read only lock file /var/lib/dpkg/lock
[19:07] <serraphyn> Sysi, I thought the startup was gdm and I did sudo update-rc.d -f gdm remove when I needed to use lightdm :D
[19:07] <GridCube> http://askubuntu.com/questions/139014/how-to-disable-lightdm
[19:07] <GridCube> serraphyn,  ^^^
[19:08] <xubuntu668> Gridcube yes I did use sudo.
[19:08] <GridCube> xubuntu668, mmm so you have some problem somewhere
[19:08] <GridCube> sorry i cant be of more help now
[19:09] <GridCube> gotta go
[19:09] <xubuntu668> thanks very much. I really appreciate it. I suspect that I've done something in Windows.
[19:09] <xubuntu668> bye
[19:09] <xubuntu668> exit
[19:42] <jvm_> hi. i setup a new xubuntu and compiz; i tried to overwrite the default keyboard shortcut for window closing, which worked fine on another xubuntu system using the compiz settings. on this system however, the compiz shortcut would not work. even alt+f4 stopped working. now i am lost...
[19:43] <rawrmonster> maybe im just having an off day but if i have a file called 'ex01.py' and i executed the command 'chmod 700 ex01.py' that would make the file rwx correct?
[19:43] <rawrmonster> but just for the current user
[19:43] <jvm_> correct
[19:44] <rawrmonster> hmmm im so lost then
[19:44] <jvm_> no rights for group and others, rawrmonster
[19:44] <jvm_> however, it only makes sense if the file begins with "#!/usr/bin/env python" or similar.
[19:45] <rawrmonster> i have a usb stick in "/media/New Volume" and when i run the command it executes correctly but it still is not rwx just rw
[19:45] <knome> rawrmonster, chmod +x file
[19:45] <rawrmonster> i have tried that as well
[19:45] <rawrmonster> i have also tried to use the gui and it just unchecks it's self
[19:46] <knome> what exactly are you trying to make executable?
[19:46] <rawrmonster> a python script i just made that is some print statements
[19:46] <jvm_> rawrmonster, if the file system is fat or ntfs you will run into trouble, too.
[19:46] <rawrmonster> jvm_: ahh that very well may be it
[19:47] <rawrmonster> jvm_: let me check that because this is normally used for a windows machine
[19:47] <jvm_> speaks against a proper file system ;)
[19:48] <rawrmonster> yea its fat so that is what is causing the trouble most likely?
[19:49] <jvm_> that means you shouldn't bother with your posix right settings...
[19:49] <jvm_> i don't see the necessity, though.
[19:49] <jvm_> you can still run your python program.
[19:50] <rawrmonster> i thought linux had to have the x set for it to execute i guess i should have tried to run it before i complained i just knew it was out of the ordinary when the program did not show green in the terminal
[19:51] <knome> rawrmonster, you should always be able to run it with 'python script.py'
[19:52] <knome> if it had +x, you could have ran it with "./script.py" (or "script.py" if the dir was in PATH)
[19:52] <knome> ultimately, the result would have been always the same,
[19:52] <rawrmonster> well sorry for the false alarm lol i feel kinda like an idiot for not trying it before i came here
[19:53] <rawrmonster> ty for you all help in the matter tho :D
[19:53] <jvm_> don't worry.
[19:53] <jvm_> i am wondering too just now
[19:54] <jvm_> i mounted a fat partition to try, and while i can't change the rights, some files are displayed as executable, while others aren't.
[19:54] <jvm_> s/fat/ntfs
[19:57] <jvm_> i don't know what makes some files different there. while mounting windows partitions you can specify that all files should be treated as executables, however: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2173052
[19:59] <xubuntu812> How can I get rid of the login manager, so that I have a tty login, but still startx automatically?
[20:01] <rawrmonster> you can just uninstall the login manager and give me one second i know there is a way to execute a command on login give me two seconds to find it
[20:02] <Unit193> Change /etc/default/grub  and change out quiet splash   for  text
[20:03] <jvm_> xubuntu812, there must be a premade solution, because i know many systems that do this, but you could just write an init script that runs startx (through sudo as your user) and add it to the right runlevel using update-rc.d
[20:05] <bekks> dont use startx anymore.
[20:05] <bekks> Use lightdm.
[20:06] <jvm_> xubuntu812, there is also nodm.
[20:06] <xubuntu812> nodm? is that just another login manager?
[20:07] <jvm_> http://jeffhoogland.blogspot.de/2011/12/howto-get-right-to-x-with-no-display.html
[20:08] <jvm_> and if you google you find other -- i think, worse -- solutions such as http://www.debianadmin.com/how-to-auto-login-and-startx-without-a-display-manager-in-debian.html
[20:09] <xubuntu812> what if I just add startx to my .profile?
[20:09] <jvm_> then go read the "worse solution" link, they do that :p
[20:10] <bekks> xubuntu812: Then fix permission issues afterwards.
[20:10] <xubuntu812> and if I add lightdm instead of startx? would that do the same thing?
[20:11] <jvm_> no.
[20:11] <rawrmonster> why is plymouth such a core file of all the ubuntu family distro's?
[20:12] <xubuntu812> so how would adding startx to .profile give me permission issues?
[20:12] <bekks> xubuntu812: It will break permissions. Dont do it.
[20:13] <bekks> Use lightdm if you want to start X automatically.
[20:13] <bekks> And you dont need to add it to .profile
[20:16] <xubuntu812> Im using lightdm now
[20:17] <xubuntu812> it works fine, except for the resolution, or rather, the offset (half my screen is black and my monitor gives error)
[20:18] <xubuntu812> same thing happened in Mint, I fixed it eventually, but it was a pain, and when I change monitors I gotta retrace all my steps, which sucks
[20:21] <jvm_> is autologin set and working?
[20:22] <xubuntu812> I dont want autologin, but yes it is working
[20:22] <bekks> Install the correct drivers and configure them.
[20:23] <xubuntu812> I have correct drivers, they are configured. As soon as I login the screen pops back in place, thats the thing
[21:40] <Psil0Cybin> hey guys quick question trying to burn a AVI File onto a DVD so i play it on my dvd player, which plays burned cds
[21:40] <Psil0Cybin> how can i do that on Xubuntu
[21:41] <Psil0Cybin> what program do i use to convert the .avi to the format i need to burn the dvd.
[21:41] <bekks> k3b can do all that IIRC.
[21:41] <XRS1> ffmpeg, openshot are the first things that come to ming
[21:41] <XRS1> mind*
[21:41] <XRS1> oo k3b. even easier
[21:41] <Psil0Cybin> i have openshot video editor
[21:42] <Psil0Cybin> so how would i go about taking the .AVI to burn to a DVD
[21:42] <Psil0Cybin> i did it once and forgot
[21:42] <XRS1> convert it to mpeg
[21:42] <XRS1> DVD's are encoded in mpeg
[21:42] <Psil0Cybin> okay so what program do i use for that
[21:42] <Psil0Cybin> to encode in mpeg
[21:42] <XRS1> use AC3, PCM or mp3 for sound
[21:43] <Psil0Cybin> there was a program that i used on my xubuntu that was as impel GUI
[21:43] <Psil0Cybin> that encoded it forme and did everything\
[21:43] <XRS1> openshot can do that. i suggest you give k3b a shot as that will figure out the settings and do the work for you (it seems)
[21:44] <Psil0Cybin> XRS1, so i would open up the avi in openshot
[21:44] <Psil0Cybin> export it as mpeg
[21:44] <Psil0Cybin> and just burn that? file
[21:44] <XRS1> yeah
[21:44] <Psil0Cybin> what did you mean about the mp3
[21:44] <XRS1> when you export, there are tons of options you can mess with. most important being the video and audio codecs
[21:45] <XRS1> i still say give k3b a shot. youll save some frustration
[21:45] <Psil0Cybin> is it avalaible in the software centre?
[21:45] <XRS1> yes
[21:45] <Psil0Cybin> okay perfect will get it now
[21:46] <Psil0Cybin> what would i do with k3b?
[21:46] <Psil0Cybin> could it encode the file for me ?
[21:46] <XRS1> k3b is a burning app like Nero or Roxio
[21:46] <XRS1> yes
[21:46] <Psil0Cybin> oh wow
[21:46] <Psil0Cybin> so its very user friendlty
[21:46] <Psil0Cybin> okay
[22:19] <Psil0Cybin> XRS1, how would i go about using K3b
[22:19] <Psil0Cybin> to burn an AVI to DVD Readable Format
[22:19] <Psil0Cybin> I open up the avi? file or where would i go
[22:20] <XRS1> give me a few
[22:20] <Psil0Cybin> kk
[22:21] <Psil0Cybin> when ever you have time i made a new video dvd > opened the avi to the folder
[22:21] <Psil0Cybin> so im stuck after there.
[22:21] <Psil0Cybin> but i see VIDEO_TS and AUDIO_TS
[22:30] <XRS1> ah not cool man. okay, k3b doesnt do encoding, you gotta have the vobs already made.   so i tried Brasero and it seems to work the way i want, open Brasero, click Video DVD, drag and drop the video you want as a DVD, click burn and done.   but every file i drag and drop it says its not a valid format
[22:30] <XRS1> so back to openshot  >_<
[22:30] <mapps> =[
[22:30] <Psil0Cybin> wait
[22:30] <Psil0Cybin> a minute
[22:30] <Psil0Cybin> so
[22:31] <Psil0Cybin> i can just drag a .avi file into Brasero with the Video DVD area
[22:31] <Psil0Cybin> ?
[22:31] <Psil0Cybin> but what if i used DeVuVa or what ever its called, could I burn the ISO and it would work as a DVD as well?
[22:31] <Psil0Cybin> because DeVeDe
[22:31] <Psil0Cybin> apparently puts it into an ISO format that is read by DVDS when burned
[22:33] <XRS1> might give it a try. Im also seeing DVDStyler looks like an awesome DVD authoring app (also in the repos)
[22:34] <XRS1> just tried it out. it accepted my .AVI file and was having me set up DVD menus and chapters, like a real DVD
[22:36] <Psil0Cybin> i guess i remember there being an app i used once i dunno why its missing off my computer maybe i uninstalled it it actually let you pick the AVI and show you that it was encoding it etc
[22:36] <Psil0Cybin> i am just scared im going to waste dvd slmao
[22:36] <Psil0Cybin> but ill try Brasero
[22:36] <Psil0Cybin> with just bringing in an .AVI
[22:39] <XRS1> Brasero looked like it was gonna work but wouldn't accept my video files.  DVDStyler did accept my videos
[22:40] <XRS1> DVDStyler is the DVD Authoring app used by Ubuntu Studio for DVD production
[23:15] <argoneus> Hello
[23:15] <argoneus> I am thinking about installing Xubuntu on my laptop
[23:16] <argoneus> My laptop is meant for school, so I need as much battery life as I can get
[23:16] <argoneus> But my laptop uses Intel/AMD hybrid graphics, is there a way to permanently turn the AMD card off in Xubuntu?
[23:16] <argoneus> Since what I've read implies that Linux is bad at handling AMD hybrid graphics
[23:20] <XRS1> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HybridGraphics
[23:20] <argoneus> Yes I know, but Ubuntu != Xubuntu, no?
[23:21] <XRS1> if its got ubuntu in the name, its ubuntu
[23:21] <argoneus> It's more than just the desktop manager, afaik?
[23:21] <argoneus> Well
[23:21] <knome> argoneus, hardware support is the same in ubuntu and xubuntu
[23:21] <argoneus> I've read that Mir is Ubuntu specific and won't work with Xubuntu, is that correct?
[23:21] <argoneus> For example
[23:21] <knome> xubuntu does not run mir in 13.10
[23:21] <rosemball> argoneus, I think that by kernel 3.12 amd+intel hybrid will be all right, but obviously you don't want to wait till there
[23:22] <argoneus> I am actually running Ubuntu 13.04 right now, and I am turning off the discrete GPU with vgaswitcheroo, but that tends to freeze up the system randomly and always after restoring from suspend
[23:22] <knome> argoneus, you can install mir to xubuntu 13.10 though, and it'll run.
[23:22] <argoneus> And I don't know whether that'll be the same with current Xubuntu 13.04
[23:23] <argoneus> It might just be my kernel being old
[23:23] <knome> nothing different regarding that in xubuntu
[23:24] <argoneus> So everything I can do with Ubuntu is possible with Xubuntu as well?
[23:24] <knome> yes
[23:24] <XRS1> might pull in a bunch of extra apps when you install, but yes
[23:24] <argoneus> One more thing
[23:24] <argoneus> Is it favorable to install the latest Linux kernel?
[23:25] <rosemball> XRS1, AFAIK vga_switcheroo is in the kernel now
[23:25] <knome> the suggested thing to do is to us the kernel in the release
[23:25] <knome> *use
[23:25] <argoneus> Okay
[23:25] <rosemball> argoneus, if you want a distribution with newer/faster kernel support, you want to look at something else out there
[23:25] <argoneus> So if I use Xubuntu 13.04 with stock everything, then I should be able to disable the discrete card with vgaswitcheroo and suspend/restore without freezing?
[23:26] <rosemball> "without freezing?" not sure about that
[23:26] <rosemball> did you read the link XRS1 posted?
[23:26] <knome> if that doesn't work for you, there are ways to install other kernels, but at that point, we're unable to promise you any support with your system
[23:26] <knome> just a note that newer kernel versions are available as updates, and it's completely fine to install those
[23:26] <argoneus> Yes, I've read that a long time ago
[23:27] <knome> they might or might not fix problems you might have
[23:27] <argoneus> Thing is
[23:27] <argoneus> when I disable my discrete GPU
[23:27] <argoneus> Then switch to another tty, and then try to switch back or to any other tty, it just hardlocks
[23:27] <argoneus> I can't do anything, but apparently it's not frozen, since I am still online in IRC etc.
[23:28] <argoneus> So I don't know what's up with that
[23:28] <knome> sounds like a bug
[23:28] <knome> anyway, off to bed
[23:28] <knome> good luck
[23:28] <argoneus> Thanks, good night
[23:28] <argoneus> I guess my best bet is to just TIAS w/ Xubuntu right now
[23:29] <argoneus> If it doesn't fit my needs, I can just use something else
[23:29] <XRS1> yup
[23:34] <Oskr220> hi I have a question
[23:34] <Oskr220> how can i make vim change the cursor in xfce terminal when changing to insert mode
[23:42] <XRS1> you might try that question in channel: #vim
[23:42] <XRS1> i dont know
[23:43] <theixle> Why does thunar open automatically when I come back from suspend mode?
[23:44] <Oskr220> ok thanks
[23:44] <theixle> fwiw I do have an sd card plugged in
[23:47] <XRS1> you can go into settings -> session and startup -> application auto-start -> remove check-box in Mount Helper
[23:48] <XRS1> that should stop the SD card from popping up when you resume
[23:48] <theixle> Ah, thanks XRS1
[23:49] <XRS1> might require a restart to apply
[23:50] <theixle> hrm, it wasn't checked
[23:50] <XRS1> must have something to do with USB then
[23:54]  * XRS1 is looking into possible causes
[23:57] <XRS1> does this sound familiar at all?:  https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/1129137


[11:20] <altermd> is there any problem withe the dhcp3 server and unstable version ?
[11:48] <altermd> do you use xdmcp in place of ltsp ?
[12:21] <altermd> bye
[12:23] <neopsyche> how do i create ad-hoc internet share?
[12:24] <kgoetz> neopsyche: dont join multiple channels and ask the same question
[12:25] <neopsyche> kgoetz can you help me with my issue?
[12:26] <kgoetz> neopsyche: no, because you didnt tell either channel what the problem *is*
[12:26] <neopsyche> can you help me if i tell you what the problem is?
[12:26] <pygi> well,l ol
[12:26] <pygi> lol
[12:27] <neopsyche> ?
[12:27] <pygi> stop asking random questions, and do give us the information to help you
[12:27] <pygi> we can't help you, if you don't help yourself
[12:27] <neopsyche> I want to connect my laptop wifi to my main pc with internet connection using ad-hoc. I need to configure the connection on linux. how do i do that?
[12:27] <laga> !ask
[12:27] <ubotu> Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[12:28] <pygi> first of all, what this has to do with edubuntu?
[12:28] <pygi> other, it is trivial to connect to a wifi, just use nm-applet and click on the network you wanna join
[12:28] <pygi> laga, thanks
[12:29] <neopsyche> I am using ubuntu but cannot get into ubuntu support channel so have come here to find support.
[12:29] <kgoetz> why cant you get in to #ubuntu ?
[12:29] <neopsyche> pygi, im not sure what you mean.. could you please elaborate?
[12:29] <pygi> neopsyche, ! there's the nm-applet tray icon
[12:30] <pygi> click on it and you get the list of available wireless network!
[12:31] <kgoetz> neopsyche: dont PM me please
[12:31] <neopsyche> there is a button saying 'wireless networks' but if i click on it nothing happens
[12:31] <kgoetz> !private message | neopsyche
[12:31] <pygi> that's not a button!
[12:31] <ubotu> neopsyche: Please ask your questions in the channel so that other people can also benefit AND help you. Please don't PM a user in the channel without asking first, some find it rude.
[12:31] <pygi> neopsyche, well, then you don't have wireless networks available!
[12:31] <laga> heh
[12:31] <laga> fun
[12:31] <pygi> this is really kindof #ubuntu question
[12:32] <pygi> please be so kind to migrate there
[12:32] <pygi> in advance, thank you
[12:32] <kgoetz> pygi: yes it is
[12:32] <neopsyche> pygi, how can i set it up so my laptop can use the internet ?
[12:32] <neopsyche> laga.. what do you mean fun?
[12:32] <pygi> neopsyche, #ubuntu pls
[12:32] <kgoetz> neopsyche: i got your PM. go to #ubuntu-ops and talk to them about why you were banned
[12:32] <pygi> there were probably reasons why you got banned anyway
[12:32] <neopsyche> kgoetz, i have tried that .. they are ignoring me and/or not doing anything.
[12:33] <neopsyche> pygi, yes.. used caps / got frustrated because nobody would help with this issue I have been trying to work out for 3 days.
[12:33] <neopsyche> all i want to do is use the internet on my laptop with wifi but nobody will give me a simple explanation on how to configure wifi devices for that on ubuntu.
[12:34] <kgoetz> neopsyche: talk to the ops, and hope you can come to an agreement. thats all there is to it. this could be considered ban evasion
[12:35] <neopsyche> I am beginning to think it is possible that many of the people on ubuntu help channels are stuck up bastards that enjoy making life difficult for noobies instead of helping.
[12:35] <laga> neopsyche: you know, people don't have to help you. people choose to help you because they want to. so going all caps and evading bans and cross-posting doesn't make it more likely to get help.
[12:36] <neopsyche> I know.. and I get annoyed because nobody will let it rest.. they are all still fighting with me and all i want is to sort out this issue.
[12:36] <neopsyche> like right now for example.. once again.. you wont help me .. even if you know how.. you choose to make my life difficult.
[12:37] <neopsyche> laga.. so you are saying I need to wait weeks for the ban to go away while I sit with no wifi internet because you dont want to help because this is 'edubuntu' and not ubuntu.
[12:38] <neopsyche> cheers.. thanks for nothing.
[19:10] <dev-NET> hi
[19:11] <dev-NET> any body can help me
[19:36] <theunixgeek_> I can't get my screen resolution over 800x600. I did the dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg thing and enabled restricted drivers, but it won't let me go to 1280x1024. Please help.
[19:41] <johnny> the driver probably isn't loade
[19:41] <johnny> you should go to #ubuntu
[22:47] <joebake1> I recently got an Intel Centrino Dual Core based laptop.  I installed Edubuntu Server on it and added the Edubuntu-Dekstop metapackage.
[22:49] <joebake1> It seems like a difficulty adding Adobe's Flash player and getting it to work on the 64 bit system.
[22:49] <johnny_> yes..
[22:49] <johnny_> that is known
[22:49] <joebake1> Is it still easier to maintain a 32 bit system?
[22:49] <johnny_> it's too much of a hassle to set it to work right on amd64
[22:49] <joebake1> Thanks Johnny_
[22:49] <johnny_> only cuz of flash
[22:49] <johnny_> it is possible to make it work
[22:49] <johnny_> but if you want it to just work. use i386
[22:50] <johnny_> still and amd64 support for flash
[22:50] <johnny_> no*
[22:50] <johnny_> not our fault :(
[22:50] <joebake1> I understand.
[22:51] <joebake1> So do I re-install the whole operating system as 32 bit?
[22:51] <joebake1> I was hoping to get the 64 bit speed boost doing Cinelerra video editing.
[23:05] <johnny_> well.. why are you running server?
[23:05] <johnny_> well it's up to you if you wanna try to force it
[23:05] <johnny_> if nothing else you an install binary 32bit firefox
[23:05] <johnny_> and then copy the plugin in there
[23:06] <johnny_> tha's what was setup at our store before i got here
[23:09] <laga> johnny_, joebake1: flash is working for me on amd64
[23:10] <laga> johnny_, joebake1: you just need the nspluginwrapper.. i think it's set up automagically, at least for me
[23:10] <laga> (on ubuntu gutsy and hardy)
[23:32] <oxtub> 0/who


[15:43] <zequence> OvenWerks: If we do add something to seeds, we will need to update the meta package. But, if it's not critical I guess we might just wait until W, since we're not releasing a LTS.
[15:44] <zequence> OvenWerks: I'll have a look at doing an SRU on ardour, and if someone else is already on it, or not. You are welcome to do so too, of course.