[05:40] <fermulator> I'm using ubuntu 10.10 . Whenever I click on shutdown/logoff/restart, it just logs out to the login screen and it says "currently logged in", like the switch user screen. Does anyone know how to fix this?
[05:40] <egossett> r00t4rd3d: i have been trying to learn something new each day as well
[05:41] <sam-_-> r00t4rd3d, i think he means konqueror
[05:41] <r00t4rd3d> nah conkeror is browser
[05:41] <YankDownUnder> AbhiJit, konqueror --profile webbrowsing
[05:41] <rusivi> 0o0: What forum post specifically?
[05:41] <YankDownUnder> konqueror.
[05:41] <r00t4rd3d> conkeror is a app too
[05:41] <AbhiJit> YankDownUnder, its conkeror
[05:41] <AbhiJit> not konqueror
[05:41] <YankDownUnder> nm.
[05:42] <AbhiJit> konqueror is kde thingy
[05:42] <sam-_-> r00t4rd3d, ah. didn't know
[05:42] <AbhiJit> when i run conkeror it takes me to help page
[05:42] <YankDownUnder> http://conkeror.org/Tips
[05:42] <AbhiJit> yah ok
[05:43] <AbhiJit> nvm
[05:43] <AbhiJit> i figured it out. :P
[05:43] <shcherbak> freezway: who, w, users, top. check what tty/pts is in use.
[05:43] <ironsight> does openal audio work in ubuntu?
[05:43] <fermulator> ndxtg: you around?
[05:44] <freezway> what?
[05:44] <shcherbak> freezway: Does it happend all the time or once?
[05:44] <freezway> what are you talking about
[05:45] <freezway> i didn't ask a question
[05:45] <shcherbak> freezway: bloody TAB
[05:45] <shcherbak> freezway: sorry
[05:45] <freezway> lol
[05:45] <shcherbak> fermulator: Does it happend all the time or once?
[05:45] <sam-_-> fermulator, isn't even on the channel
[05:45] <fermulator> shcherbak: all the time
[05:46] <YankDownUnder> ironsight, https://vollkorn.cryptobitch.de/index.php?/archives/90-How-I-solved-my-Ubuntu-Karmic-9.10-ALSA-OpenAL-Sound-problems.html
[05:46] <fermulator> anytime I logout, I'm brought to the GDM login screen, and it says my user is "currently logged in" (even though I just logged uot)
[05:46] <shcherbak> fermulator: can you paste w output?
[05:46] <fermulator> paste what log?
[05:46] <ZykoticK9> fermulator, are you also logged into a console perhaps?
[05:46] <shcherbak> fermulator: "w" command
[05:47] <shcherbak> ZykoticK9: "all the time"
[05:47] <fermulator> oh sure thing;
[05:47] <fermulator> shcherbak: http://pastebin.com/hAu7uXgk
[05:48] <muxx> sam-_-: Sure enough, it was a Network-Manager issue.
[05:48] <fermulator> shcherbak: oh, apparently there is an SSH connection from "fermmy-media"
[05:48] <sam-_-> muxx, unsurprisingly :-(
[05:48] <fermulator> shcherbak: i'll close it, logout, and see if it still shows
[05:49] <new> how do i get sound activated in ubuntu?
[05:49] <muxx> Had a feeling. Just wish I knew how to fix Network-Manager from automatically putting the card into Ad-Hoc mode when it connects to the AP. wpa_supplicant worked like a charm fortunately.
[05:49] <fermulator> brb
[05:49] <YankDownUnder> new, Check to see if your volume is muted or just turned down.
[05:49] <shcherbak> fermulator: should do, how come that you have ssh "all the time"
[05:49] <new> it is unmuted
[05:50] <new> the volume is up
[05:50] <sam-_-> new, how do you test it=
[05:50] <YankDownUnder> new, I'll assume you've check the volume level under SYSTEM => PREFERENCES => SOUND...and checked the hardware settings as well....
[05:50] <sam-_-> new, also gstreamer-properties
[05:51] <new> how do i check the hardware settings?
[05:51] <r00t4rd3d> hardware tab of sound properties
[05:51] <fermulator> shcherbak: wow, that was silly, after closing the SSH session from the remote system, the GDM login menu no longer shows "currently logged in"
[05:52] <shcherbak> ZykoticK9: you genius!
[05:52] <fermulator> shcherbak: I usually "sleep"/"resume" my desktop PC, and my media server has been online for weeks (apparently with an SSH session going)
[05:52] <Da|Mummy> anyone here on ubuntu10.10x64 that can help me test something minor real quick?
[05:52] <ox3a> Still i did not able to change the ubuntu boot splash
[05:52] <ZykoticK9> shcherbak, you figured it out :P
[05:52] <fermulator> shcherbak: it's been a while since I restarted the PC
[05:52] <fermulator> shcherbak: thanks!
[05:53] <shcherbak> fermulator: got you first that it happend every boot. Well "w" often suprise me either.
[05:53] <lazarus_> hi all
[05:53] <fermulator> shcherbak: I suppose it's a little weird that GDM says "currently logged in" for SSH sessions ... but oh well
[05:53] <YankDownUnder> GAds - one of my servers is only showing 38 days up....dang...
[05:53] <ox3a> any help please changing the ubuntu boot logo or splash screen?
[05:54] <fermulator> i'm out for now! cheers
[05:54] <ZykoticK9> fermulator, i think GDM is being smart - you are logged in
[05:54] <YankDownUnder> ox3a, What's the prob mate?
[05:55] <chd> in vim, if I want to save a file I'm working on under a different name how do I do that? :w <name>?
[05:55] <r00t4rd3d> ox3a, have you installed zorin splash screen manager ?
[05:55] <fermulator> ZykoticK9: it's debatable I think.  GDM is a "graphical Display Manager".  saying "currently logged in" is technically true ... but ... expectations of "currently logged in" from a GDM login prompt would imply "graphically logged in" (i.e. to physical tty)
[05:56] <ZykoticK9> fermulator, it applies to console logins as well - my origional question ;)
[05:56] <ox3a> YankDownUnder, I am customizing Ubuntu live cd (Everything done). Just trying to change boot splash
[05:56] <fermulator> ZykoticK9: oh interesting -- testing
[05:57] <r00t4rd3d> ox3a, http://www.n00bsonubuntu.net/content/install-zorin-splash-screen-manager-on-ubuntu-10-10-maverick-meerkat/
[05:57] <ox3a> r00t4rd3d, I have made my own splash.... And my customized ubuntu will be installable
[05:57] <ZykoticK9> Cool looking Plymouth theme from webupd8 http://www.webupd8.org/2011/01/earth-sunrise-is-gorgeous-plymouth.html [i haven't tried it yet, will be installing on netbook in a moment]
[05:58] <fermulator> ZykoticK9: indeed! -- console logins cause GDM to say "currently logged in"
[05:58] <YankDownUnder> ox3a, Roger that.
[05:58] <fermulator> ZykoticK9: I guess that is the right thing to do
[05:58] <ZykoticK9> fermulator, ;)
[05:58] <ox3a> YankDownUnder, ?
[05:59] <YankDownUnder> ox3a, The base stuff is in /lib/plymouth => modify what you so wish, but you'll have to do an update-alternatives --config default.plymouth, then do an update-initrd afterwards
[06:00] <dshbusiness> Hello! I delete my apache2 config files at /etc/apache2/sits-available/, which config my server root, How can I revover it? Thanks
[06:00] <nef_> since I got linux, my laptop doesnt recognise my mic - can anyone assist with this
[06:03] <thoth> hi
[06:03] <techmo2> Hi ... anyone else registered for the Ubuntu Developer Day here ?
[06:03] <nef_> oh hello
[06:04] <thoth> what's that ubuntu dev day thing?
[06:04] <techmo2> http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntudeveloperday
[06:04] <techmo2> I registered few days back ... but I received no confirmation :( ... who do I ask ?
[06:04] <techmo2> any idea ?
[06:05] <thoth> oh by the way... can anyone have any ideas how to fix broken mic ?
[06:05] <george_> Hey guys, how do fix the drag and drop issue when using a touch pad in Ubuntu 10.10?
[06:05] <sam-_-> dshbusiness, sudo apt-get remove apache2.2-common && sudo apt-get install apache2.2-common
[06:05] <thoth> as in ubuntu 10.10 couldn't detect the mic
[06:05] <thoth> I have already ensured it isn't mute on the sound thing
[06:05] <IdleOne> techmo2: msg nigelb about it, he can most probably help you.
[06:05] <techmo2> thanks IdleOne
[06:06] <IdleOne> techmo2: if he can't help he will know who can :)
[06:06] <ox3a> YankDownUnder, PM please?
[06:06] <techmo2> IdleOne: that is more important :)
[06:06] <techmo2> thank you so much
[06:06] <YankDownUnder> ox3a, Shoot
[06:06] <IdleOne> welcome
[06:06] <atem> leave
[06:06] <dshbusiness> sam-_-: Let me try. Thanks!
[06:07] <thoth> the mic support is sometimes there and mostly not there...
[06:07] <thoth> so anyone have any ideas ?
[06:07] <thoth> why that happens ?
[06:08] <nef_> it kinda looks like you are talking to yourself thoth
[06:09] <dfcnvt> thoth, did you tries play different application and see if it work?
[06:09] <atem> any resource to learn linux like yous?
[06:09] <thoth> yes
[06:09] <thoth> I am actually using skype
[06:09] <sam-_-> thoth, gstreamer-properties and gnome-volume-manager look into those two
[06:09] <thoth> you know the pidgin-skype thing
[06:09] <bazhang> !manual | atem
[06:09] <thoth> ok wait..
[06:09] <thoth> how do I get to that gstreamer thing ?
[06:10] <gops> hello world
[06:10] <atem> ok thanks ubottu
[06:10] <ZykoticK9> thoth, you don't happen to be using a EEEpc 1005pe are you?
[06:10] <thoth> nope
[06:10] <sam-_-> thoth, alt + f2 then type the command
[06:10] <ZykoticK9> thoth, k
[06:10] <thoth> which command ?
[06:10] <gops> hey any one know the repositories link for emerald theams
[06:11] <dfcnvt> thoth, get on the terminal, type "sudo apt-get install gstreamer-properties gnome-volume-manager" (without quote)
[06:11] <thoth> ok.. let me figure that terminal thing...
[06:11] <bazhang> gops, emerald is no longer supported nor maintained
[06:11] <thoth> sorry.. noob here....
[06:11] <george_> same here n.n
[06:11] <dfcnvt> thoth, that's alright, I've noticed already
[06:11] <thoth> ok.. there
[06:11] <thoth> so what do I need to notice ?
[06:12] <thoth> I am at the gstreamer already
[06:12] <dfcnvt> thoth, What are you seeing?
[06:12] <thoth> hmmm..
[06:12] <gops> i installed emerald thems but no theams , i can download theams one by one from varies sites, but it would be better if ther is any repo server
[06:12] <george_> i really dont want to waste 30 bucks on a mouse, is there a way to fix the drag and dropping on a laptop's touchpad?
[06:12] <IdleOne> !themes | gops
[06:12] <bazhang> gops, apt-cache search emerald if there are any, which is doubtful
[06:13] <george_> it goes crazy when i try to drag and drop
[06:13] <thoth> Autodetect ?
[06:13] <thoth> plugin autodetect ?
[06:13] <orb_> well hi
[06:13] <thoth> pipeline autoaudiosrc
[06:13] <dfcnvt> thoth, are you on the terminal? the black window with white text?
[06:14] <thoth> nope
[06:14] <thoth> it pop up some GUI
[06:14] <gops> bazhang: thank you , i wil try
[06:14] <dfcnvt> thoth, maybe the color is different. Assuming you're on the terminal
[06:14] <thoth> I found the gstreamer-properties command in the terminal
[06:14] <george_> @thoth: just type CTRL ALT then T
[06:14] <dfcnvt> can you try type "echo test" without quote
[06:14] <george_> and the terminal will pop up ^^
[06:15] <thoth> yes
[06:15] <thoth> I am in the terminal
[06:15] <thoth> and I executed 'gstreamer-properties'
[06:15] <dfcnvt> what was the respond after that
[06:15] <thoth> and it threw out a GUI thing
[06:15] <dfcnvt> ok ok
[06:15] <dfcnvt> was making sure you are on the terminal
[06:15] <hblount> hi. does wine take alot of cpu power?
[06:15] <dfcnvt> You'll need to install them
[06:15] <gops> bazhang: hey jus check the link  Repositories
[06:16] <dfcnvt> type this, "sudo apt-get install gstreamer-properties gnome-volume-manager" (again, without quote)
[06:16] <thoth> Package gnome-volume-manager is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[06:17] <DandyKoffin> I'm a newbie who needs help with Evolution
[06:17] <sam-_-> hblount, depends
[06:17] <thoth> eading package lists... Done
[06:17] <thoth> Building dependency tree
[06:17] <thoth> Reading state information... Done
[06:17] <thoth> Package gnome-volume-manager is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[06:17] <thoth> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[06:17] <FloodBot3> thoth: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:17] <thoth> is only available from another source
[06:17] <gops> bazhang: hey jus check the site  http://wiki.compiz.org/EmeraldThemeManager#Repositories it shows that we will get repo address from the repository tab , but i didnt find any other repo tab
[06:17] <thoth> anyone can read me ?
[06:18] <DandyKoffin> Hello everyone
[06:18] <DandyKoffin> can someone please help me with Evolution?
[06:18] <dfcnvt> thoth, we'll hold on gnome-volume-manager later. start install gstreamer-properties only
[06:18] <bazhang> DandyKoffin, ask a question first
[06:18] <george_> whats the problem?
[06:18] <bazhang> gops, I'd ask in #compiz for an expert view on that.
[06:19] <DandyKoffin> I'm trying to set up my school e-mail account on Evolution, and I really don't know what I'm doing
[06:19] <dfcnvt> thoth, do the following "sudo apt-get install gstreamer-properties" (without quote)
[06:19] <hblount> hi. does wine take alot of cpu power?
[06:20] <thoth> ok
[06:20] <bazhang> hblount, not really, the apps might though
[06:20] <bazhang> hblount, for specific app help, /join #winehq
[06:20] <sam-_-> thoth, dfcnvt it's gnome-volume-control.
[06:20] <mrchinosun> FUCK 64bit ubuntu :(
[06:20] <mrchinosun> mer
[06:20] <gops> bazhang: ok ok
[06:20] <thoth> it shows error
[06:21] <bazhang> mrchinosun, no cursing please
[06:21] <hblount> bazhang, thanks
[06:21] <rusivi> !language | mrchinosun
[06:21] <DandyKoffin> bazhang, how do I go about setting up my school e-mail account in Evolution?
[06:21] <george_> Touchpad drag & drop issue? fix, please???
[06:21] <george_> pointer goes crazy
[06:22] <thoth> i am in gstreamer-properties now
[06:22] <nit-wit> DandyKoffin, is it a IMAP
[06:22] <thoth> dfcnvt, i am in the gstreamer properties
[06:22] <DandyKoffin> nit-wit, I really don't know, how do I find out?
[06:22] <thoth> it seems to exists without the need of installation
[06:23] <sam-_-> DandyKoffin, your school has to tell you
[06:23] <dfcnvt> Okay..
[06:23] <DandyKoffin> sam-_-: ok thanks
[06:23] <dfcnvt> close your skype program and play other different program to see if it work
[06:24] <thoth> ok
[06:24] <dfcnvt> If it does work, then switch it back to skype to see if it work
[06:24] <thoth> what programs to play ?
[06:24] <thoth> you mean anything like sound recording ?
[06:24] <dfcnvt> sure
[06:24] <sam-_-> thoth, gnome-sound-recorder
[06:25] <thoth> thanks
[06:29] <thoth> sam-_-, it didn't work
[06:31] <ofb> Hello, cannot install 3d open source driver for ati 1600
[06:31] <thoth> so... the recording didn't work... what should I do next ?
[06:32] <ofb> Who can help me&
[06:32] <ofb> ?
[06:32] <r00t4rd3d> with ?
[06:33] <ofb> install open source 3d driver in Natty
[06:33] <ofb> for ati radeo 1660
[06:33] <bazhang> ofb, #ubuntu+1 for the alpha
[06:34] <booh-> Hi.  I installed a server with one crypted partition (and swap).  Each time I boot the server, it ask for the key (passphrase)  It's ok.  But... at each entered character, a cariage return is done a the question is repeated... Also, some services may started and messages are written over the asking cursor for passphrase.  A way to do it more cleanly ?
[06:34] <dfcnvt> thoth, I wish I can do further time with you and reach to success however I can tell you that it will work only if you know how to do it. I am quite tired and it is late so, ask others here for help and they will, if they can, be patience with you and give you every options to reach that goal for your entertainment's sake in listening to your speaker, speaking out loud to your microphone and
[06:34] <dfcnvt> such media. Just remember, google is always available to provide valuble information that may lead to your demands. Only if you know how to query them right. I wish you best.
[06:35] <thoth> ok. thanks for your help dfcnvt
[06:35] <thoth> have a good rest
[06:35] <dfcnvt> and you, don't give up.
[06:36] <Eagle> Hey all...
[06:36] <ofb> ?
[06:36] <thoth> I think I would ask someone
[06:36] <breadcrumb> ?????????
[06:37] <bazhang> ofb, /join #ubuntu+1
[06:37] <ofb> Ok? understand
[06:37] <FunkyDude> how do i delete a folder that was created by the system (through my apache web server)?
[06:37] <ofb> Thank you
[06:38] <atem> is not with rm -r?
[06:39] <eoss> FunkyDude: You must find morpheus before you have access to the system
[06:40] <booh-> Hi.  I installed a server with one crypted partition (and swap).  Each time I boot the server, it ask for the key (passphrase)  It's ok.  But... at each entered character, a cariage return is done a the question is repeated... Also, some services may started and messages are written over the asking cursor for passphrase.  A way to do it more cleanly ?
[06:41] <atem> eoss i dont found info about morpheus, is necessary?
[06:42] <soulashell> hi
[06:42] <atem> hi soulashell
[06:42] <mae_tae> is it a good idea to connect two WAN's in one switch?
[06:42] <atem> you´re a newerç''
[06:42] <mae_tae> is there any disadvantage?
[06:42] <soulashell> anyone got any trouble with the latest natty update?
[06:43] <soulashell> i don't have the app bar on the left nor the bar at the top of the screen
[06:43] <atem> hey you use natty? it solves the acpi problem with battery???
[06:43] <sam-_-> !natty | soulashell
[06:43] <gobbe> booh-: did you do encryption with installer or after installation?
[06:44] <booh-> gobbe, with installer
[06:44] <booh-> I should do another way?
[06:44] <atem> soulashell you have a acer machine?? works the acpi????
[06:45] <Cale> I'm having trouble typing normal English text into flash embedded on websites (e.g. the chat here: http://www.ustream.tv/day9tv). Interestingly, I can insert some Japanese characters, but can't edit the text afterward. This problem is relatively new (last couple days?)
[06:46] <wx168> hello ubuntu user
[06:46] <soulashell> atem: i have a toshiba
[06:46] <Cale> Has anyone else encountered that problem?
[06:46] <wx168> so what is the advantage of using ubuntu instead of windows 7 on my acer netbook?
[06:47] <atem> soulashell: that reads battery good?
[06:47] <gobbe> booh-: no, that's proper way. So your problem is that when you type your password it asks question again due that cariage return?
[06:47] <soulashell> atem: until this day. yes
[06:47] <soulashell> lol
[06:47] <gobbe> booh-: have you tried with another keyboard?
[06:48] <atem> well i have an acer with win7 and now dont read battery
[06:48] <atem> it marks is charged, i hope in natty version the bug has gone
[06:48] <gobbe> atem: upgrade your bios
[06:49] <Eagle> Dose anyone know what code will allow me to download an Ubuntu packages into my home folder? Because I need to reinstall a failed windows computer and put Ubuntu on it, except the CD Rom dose not work, so I am restricted to using flash sticks. And I need the package for the external modem to get internet. Any ideas anyone?
[06:49] <gobbe> atem: many acer laptops has problems with linux+battery and acer released bios upgrade while ago
[06:49] <atem> that is when i passed to ubuntu
[06:49] <alcuadrado> Hi guys! I have been using linux for quite a long time, but came back to ubuntu a couple of hours ago
[06:49] <booh-> gobbe, yes it's one of my problem.  Each time I type a char, I have a CR with the question repeated...
[06:49] <alcuadrado> it's a great OS
[06:50] <alcuadrado> and it's integration with gnome is so sexy
[06:50] <TheMoor> eagle : wubi
[06:50] <booh-> gobbe, waiting for other chars of the passphrase.
[06:50] <alcuadrado> but rhythmbox sometimes "lags" when playing music
[06:50] <alcuadrado> mostly .mp3
[06:50] <adrin_jalali> hi, can I ask a question about routing?
[06:50] <atem> gobbe i am a spanish talker, and i have not find a good way to do the update from ubuntu , do you know some good tutorial??
[06:50] <booh-> gobbe, also, if a service start at the time the system is wainting for passphrase, it writes messages over my cursor.
[06:51] <atem> that shows me how to do the update?
[06:51] <Eagle> TheMoor: '' wubi'' ? sorry you lost me.....
[06:52] <atem> anyway, some way to upgrade bios from ubuntu?
[06:52] <TheMoor> Eagle : http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop/get-ubuntu/windows-installer
[06:53] <maxwave3> Eagle: Are you looking to get the package files for reinstallation later? Not a simple solution, but you could grab the .deb files from http://packages.ubuntu.com
[06:53] <alcuadrado> anyone?
[06:57] <Eagle> maxwave3: Yes. The first thing i tryed was "http://packages.ubuntu.com"  But I could not get on to the site, something to do with my web provider, its blocked.... So I wondered if i could get it through the terminal, because i can download packages through it.
[06:58] <bozdog> Hi all, could anyone tell me where program executable files are held?  for example google earth
[06:59] <gobbe> booh-: hmmh. you could press ctrl-l to clear screen
[07:00] <maxwave3> Eagle: aptitude has a download option that states: Downloads the .deb file for the most recent version of the given package to the current directory.
[07:00] <gobbe> atem: no, you cannot update it from ubuntu. You need to create dos-bootdisk (floppy or usb) and update it from there
[07:00] <tntc> Is there an IRC channel for Mactel Ubuntu users?
[07:00] <booh-> gobbe, ok I'll try tomorrow.  Thanks... Have to sleep now.
[07:00] <erik-desktop> hello all
[07:00] <ZykoticK9> bozdog, it will depend on how you install things where they end up.  Deb installs go to different locations then source/binary installs.  Try "whereis googleearth" or check in /opt if the usual locations aren't working out.
[07:01] <atem> thank gobbe i try that but i believe is my skill-carensy , but ill try again, thanks a lot
[07:02] <atem> is too late,, thanks for helpme and good night
[07:02] <hanasaki> any motherboard (with support) that has a hdmi input for av?
[07:02] <bozdog> zykotick9 cheers
[07:03] <rk> does anybody know how to play wmv in ubuntu?
[07:03] <tntc> rk: I used medibuntu and installed w32codecs
[07:04] <rk> tntc, http://medibuntu.org/?
[07:04] <tntc> rk: that's the one! :D
[07:05] <tntc> rk: their repos have some of the libdvdcss stuff too, IIRC
[07:05] <Eagle> maxwave3: Pardon my stupidity......But could you explain.."aptitude"?
[07:05] <maxwave3> Eagle: I did a test. I typed "aptitude download apache2" and when it finished I had Downloads the .deb file for the most recent version of the given package to the current directory.
[07:05] <tntc> rk: just hit the repository howto, and then install the windows codecs.
[07:06] <rk> why on earth ppl would encode some linux stuff on wmv? it just blows my mind
[07:06] <maxwave3> Eagle: sorry copy and pasted wrong infor
[07:06] <tntc> Eagle: (maxwave3 too) bear in mind that you need to install Aptitude as of 10.10
[07:06] <brophat> how do i disable the integrated wifi so I can install my own pci wifi card?
[07:06] <tntc> Eagle: 'sudo apt-get install aptitude' ought to do it
[07:07] <tntc> brophat: is it a laptop?
[07:07] <maxwave3> tntc: thanks
[07:07] <brophat> tntc no it is an HP desktop
[07:07] <tntc> brophat: usually something in the BIOS, but I'm not sure
[07:07] <tntc> maxwave3: np.
[07:07] <brophat> ok
[07:08] <brophat> that is what i was thinking to
[07:08] <tntc> brophat: worst case, you can just throw the card in there and leave em both "installed", but tell ubuntu to only use one
[07:08] <brophat> tntc how do i tell ubuntu to only use one of them?
[07:09] <rk> its working now, thanks tntc
[07:09] <Valathar> Hello!  Ubuntu newbie here
[07:09] <tntc> rk: good!   Bios is your best bet.
[07:10] <Eagle> tntc: Can I not use some comand in terminal, that will download the package straight to the home folder?
[07:10] <tntc> oh, he left
[07:10] <Valathar> Put Ubuntu on a 7 year old Dell laptop that had bit the dust, 48 hours ago.  Fell in LOVE instantly... now I got it on my netbook too :)
[07:10] <tntc> Eagle: I'm not sure.  My apt-fu is poor.  I know you can search for the package online (via google or something) and usually donwload it from something like packages.ubuntu.com
[07:11] <tntc> Eagle: I'm pretty sure you can.   Awesome! I'm seriously considering putting Ubuntu on my Macbook Pro and Mac Mini because I'm sick of not being able to rip DVDs or use Python.
[07:11] <tntc> Eagle: what nimrod10` said.  Make sure you install aptitude first though.
[07:11] <maxwave3> Eagle: aptitude is the tool to download the package but it is not installed by default on 10.10, which is why tntc suggested installing it via apt-get install aptitude.
[07:11] <kcj> How do I copy 2 patitons (/ and /home) to another disk?
[07:11] <nimrod10`> tntc, it should be installed by defo
[07:12] <tntc> nimrod10`: not on 10.10
[07:12] <tntc> nimrod10`: remember, they pulled it to save space?
[07:12] <tntc> unless it has gone back in since.
[07:12] <kcj> I'm running on a live cd.
[07:12] <nimrod10`> wow had no idea it has been removed from 10.10, as I'm still on 10.04
[07:12] <kcj> Linux mint 10
[07:12] <Valathar> tntc - I'm seriously loving it.  I was ready to buy a new computer... they were getting so slow with Windows.  Now, they're faster than the day they were new... both of them.  Install was easy with few issues, and good documentation available for those issues... I'm definitely converted.
[07:13] <MengXingHun> oin #debian-cn
[07:13] <Valathar> don't need no stinkin' new PC
[07:13] <maxwave3> Eagle: Are you looking to download a particular package?
[07:13] <nimrod10`> good to hear that Valathar !
[07:13] <Eagle> tntc: ,nimrod10`: How do I use or access this "aptitude"?
[07:14] <tntc> Eagle: you need to install it. "sudo apt-get install aptitude" from the command line
[07:14] <kcj> Valathar: You should give Linux Mint a try sometime.
[07:14] <Eagle> tntc: yes i have.
[07:14] <tntc> then do the "aptitude download <package>"
[07:14] <Valathar> anyway, I basically just came in here to try out Empathy on IRC and tinker a bit, and thank anybody in chan who had anything to do with working on Ubuntu 10.10 and netbook edition.  Big kudos.
[07:14] <tntc> as they said before.  where <package> is the package you want to get.
[07:14] <Valathar> kcj, I might... what's the difference from Ubuntu 10.10 ?
[07:14] <gobbe> kcj: are you trying to move your installation to bigger disk or something?
[07:15] <vlad> in amazon ubuntu instances autoload of sshd turned off
[07:15] <Eagle> tntc: Thanks, I will try it now...
[07:15] <vlad> how turn it on?
[07:15] <kcj> Valathar: Linux mint is Ubuntu on crack.
[07:15] <nimrod10`> tntc, I'm running ubuntu 10.04 on a macbook so it should work for you too
[07:15] <Valathar> what kinda crack?  hehehe remember, newb here.  What does it do for me that Ubuntu 10.10 doesn't?
[07:15] <kcj> gobbe: Yes I'm replacing my disk.
[07:16] <gobbe> kcj: is it same size?
[07:16] <tntc> nimrod10`: I have a MBP 7,1, which is a little crazy. Broadcom wireless and weird audio issues.
[07:16] <gobbe> kcj: if, then dd is good tool for that
[07:16] <Eagle> nimrod10`: maxwave3: Thanks for your help too :)
[07:16] <tntc> nimrod10`: My touchpad is also insanely sensitive, so I need to do a lot of mucking around with configs to get it so that I'm not clicking all over the place.
[07:16] <kcj> gobbe: No and it has another partition (that I have already shrunken) that I want to presrve.
[07:17] <kcj> Valathar: You'll have to try it.
[07:17] <nimrod10`> tntc, I see, I have a 5,1 version , just wait 6 more months :)
[07:18] <Valathar> I'll give it a shot.  I have another hard drive laying around doing nothing, might just throw it on there and swap back and forth to see what I like
[07:18] <tntc> nimrod10`: story of my life. :/
[07:18] <kcj> Valathar: Good idea
[07:19] <tntc> nimrod10`: I want to do the big switch now, while I'm waiting for the new semester to start.
[07:19] <nimrod10`> tntc, that happens when you go for the shiny new toy ;)
[07:19] <Valathar> anybody play guitar and use Ubuntu for recording?  Use the Line 6 guitar port with it?
[07:19] <tntc> nimrod10`: Tell me about it.  My 320M graphics have been locking up like crazy in OS X.  I'm growing tired of it.
[07:19] <nimrod10`> tntc, no need to switch totally just have it dual boot in case shit goes wrong or until you fix all issues
[07:20] <tntc> nimrod10`: If I go back to Ubuntu, I'm going all the way. Windows and OS X will live in a VM.
[07:20] <kcj> gobbe: Any sugestions?
[07:20] <tntc> nimrod10`: do you have multitouch working?
[07:21] <gobbe> kcj: i would use rsync
[07:21] <nimrod10`> tntc, you're courageous I like that ! I just have 2 finger scroll in 10.04 , that was by default. To be honest I'm not fussed about any other type of multitouch
[07:21] <caki> salam [-o<
[07:22] <Valathar> later folks, I'll see you around I'm sure.
[07:23] <chkdsk> can someone tell me the name of an application I can use to find out what keys are pressed? (or the keycodes, keyvalues etc of pressed keys/buttons)
[07:23] <brophat> when i disabled WLAN in the bios, ubuntu would not boot
[07:24] <brophat> i then enabled it and ubuntu would boot
[07:24] <brophat> why does ubuntu not like it when i disable WLAN
[07:24] <brophat> onboard WLAN that is
[07:24] <porjo> I seem to be unable to set a background image properly in gnome-terminal. Either it's a solid color, or I have to slide the transparency slider to have background image blended with desktop (which I don't want)??
[07:25] <Eagle> chkdsk: System - Preferences, and there are three keyboard options...
[07:25] <chkdsk> Eagle, that's not at all what I asked for but I found it anyway (xev)
[07:26] <brophat> anyone have any ideas on that?
[07:26] <fratzbc> can anybody tell me where this is failing:: CHECK_USER=`echo $1 | egrep '(root|nxs|$USER)'` :: where the $1 is an ssh command with my user id... but it fails because $USER is not getting my linux user id
[07:27] <celthunder> fratzbc, echo $USER
[07:27] <celthunder> does it return the id
[07:27] <fratzbc> celthunder: yep
[07:27] <fratzbc> fyi: root and nxs user work fine
[07:27] <fratzbc> its just that the variable is not getting picked up
[07:27] <fratzbc> also tried ${USER}
[07:28] <zetheroo> anyone know the channel to Linuc Mint?
[07:28] <zetheroo> Linux*
[07:28] <Eagle> chkdsk: Sorry :)  :)  :)
[07:28] <riktking> zetheroo, i dont think its on freenode?
[07:29] <zetheroo> oh
[07:30] <brophat> can i leave my onboard wifi and install another wifi pci card?
[07:31] <zetheroo> well I guess Mint is pretty much Ubuntu with a different "skin" on ... so I'll ask my question here :P
[07:31] <riktking> brophat, yes
[07:31] <brophat> riktking then how do i choose to use the pci card wifi?
[07:32] <zetheroo> I setup a new machine with Mint 10 (Ubuntu 10.10) and it's got built-in wifi ... however the wifi seems to be disabled
[07:32] <riktking> brophat, they will both show up in the notification area
[07:32] <Tm_T> !mint | zetheroo
[07:32] <brophat> riktking what notification area?
[07:33] <riktking> brophat, are you running gnome?
[07:33] <riktking> standard ubuntu?
[07:33] <zetheroo> Tm_T: cheers
[07:34] <brophat> riktking i think so it is whatever comes with ubuntu i think that is gnome
[07:34] <stanley> default is gnome
[07:34] <brophat> ok then it is gnome
[07:34] <riktking> brophat, then on the top right there should be an icon with an ! on it
[07:35] <brophat> rikktking nope do not have such an icon
[07:35] <riktking> hmm
[07:35] <riktking> are you on that machine now
[07:35] <brophat> yes
[07:35] <riktking> and have you done an update?
[07:35] <stanley> what's the prob brophat
[07:35] <brophat> riktking i have 10.10
[07:36] <riktking> ok, have you done sudo apt-get update
[07:36] <Rotham> hey... any ideas for how to encrypt an entire hard drive & dual boot windows/ubuntu?
[07:36] <stanley> truecrypt
[07:36] <Rotham> I have a buddy who tried it with true crypt and wasn't able to get it working... said dual boot didnt work...
[07:36] <Rotham> maybe he just didnt do it right :P
[07:36] <brophat> stanley i want to not use my onboard wifi and install a wifi pci card, but when i turned onbaord wifi ubuntu would not boot so i want to have both wifi running at thesame time but use pci wifi
[07:37] <brophat> riktking i ahve not done a sudo apt-get update but i have have a bunch of updates frm that thing that shows up
[07:37] <stanley> do the update
[07:37] <stanley> and upgrade
[07:37] <riktking> brophat, do an update, that usually will install any drivers etc that are needed for the card
[07:38] <riktking> sudo apt-get update
[07:38] <riktking> sudo apt-get upgrade
[07:38] <brophat> riktking do both of them?
[07:38] <riktking> yeah update then upgrade
[07:38] <Tilt-GOD> anybody ever had success getting a gobi2000 usb wwan device working in ubuntu?
[07:38] <brophat> ok
[07:39] <brophat> this is different than what the update manager does?
[07:39] <Tilt-GOD> i got everything but after i upload the firmware to /dev/ttyUSB0, it releases itself and i have no way to use the modem to connect to my provider
[07:39] <Tilt-GOD> which sucks
[07:40] <brophat> riktking this is different from what the uddate manager does?
[07:40] <leagris> re
[07:40] <riktking> brophat, ok
[07:40] <riktking> brophat, its just the terminal version
[07:41] <brophat> riktking then have done a lot of udate manager so therefore i have already done what you are saying
[07:42] <AbhiJit> i m setting print pages as 105 but still document viwer priting page no 97
[07:42] <AbhiJit> any idea?
[07:42] <AbhiJit> help
[07:42] <stanley> Rotham: take a look at this, maybe it'll help you: http://www.steve-oh.com/blog/index.php/ubuntu-vista-dual-boot-full-encryption-with-truecrypt/
[07:42] <Tilt-GOD> nothing huh
[07:42] <riktking> brophat, did it install any new packages tho??
[07:43] <brophat> riktking dunno, it just shows up once in a while and says it has new stuff to install and I run it
[07:43] <riktking> brophat, ok so you are up to date
[07:43] <brophat> riktking i have not installed the pci card yet
[07:43] <droopal> hi, I have a Acer Aspire netbook, and I'm running Ubuntu 10.10. I have developed a problem, I bought an external hard drive, which used to work, I also had a few usb drives that worked as well, but now, none of them will work, I keep getting the message, unable to mount you dont have permission to mount this, can somebody helop please. I want to try install ubuntu netbook on it, as a completely clean instal, but if I cant mount any of the drives, I
[07:43] <droopal> cant install it.
[07:44] <riktking> brophat, ok so you need to install the new network card! i thought it was already in
[07:44] <riktking> have you checked that the model is supported in linux?
[07:44] <brophat> riktking so when i install the pci card how will the two wifi not conflict and how can i choose to have it use the pci card
[07:44] <Rotham> stanley: thank you
[07:45] <droopal> yeh, they were all working, but have had a few updates, now this message.
[07:45] <riktking> brophat, there is an option to select which card you wish to use with the network manager
[07:45] <gobbe> droopal: can you mount it manually?
[07:45] <brophat> riktking ok that would be a good thing
[07:45] <riktking> brophat, from where you select the network connection atm
[07:45] <droopal> gobbe: how do you mean, mount what manually?
[07:46] <riktking> brophat, if you really want, you can use both cards to connect to diff networks!
[07:46] <riktking> brophat, i suggest you install the card and see if it works!
[07:46] <Tilt-GOD> gobi!
[07:46] <droopal> no external droives will mount, and they all used ot, its like I've been locked out of mounting anything to the usb
[07:47] <brophat> riktking where is network manager I don't see it listed under system/administration
[07:47] <Tilt-GOD> droopal, check yer sys log
[07:47] <riktking> brophat, sys->prefs->Network Connections
[07:47] <droopal> Tilt-GOD: can you tell me how to do that please?
[07:47] <riktking> sorry used to the old name!
[07:48] <brophat> riktking ok ahahah
[07:48] <brophat> ic
[07:48] <Tilt-GOD> tail -f /var/log/messages
[07:48] <riktking> brophat, is there a network icon in the notification area (top right of the screen)
[07:48] <Tilt-GOD> then plug the device in
[07:48] <brophat> riktking so it will have two wireless tabs
[07:49] <brophat> riktking yes but i am wired in
[07:49] <Drule> Hi guys!
[07:49] <brophat> not using the onboard wifi cause the onboard wifi is flaky with ubuntu
[07:49] <riktking> brophat, thats the easiest place to select which network card/network you want to connect to
[07:49] <riktking> brophat, hae you checked the onboard wifi doesnt have additional drivers system->admin->aditional drivers
[07:49] <Drule> I have a biiig problem. I have a laptop with a broken copy of Ubuntu. I can get into the system, but my user rights and network services seem to be royally messed up. Basically, the system is giving me error messags for about everything, so I can't really rely on it to be able to handle anything but extremely basic stuff.
[07:49] <brophat> riktking ok then there i would see two wireless options listed
[07:50] <Tilt-GOD> if you dont wanna use the onboard device at all, just blacklist the module
[07:50] <Drule> I have 20gb if extremely important data on this laptop, and I need help backing it up.
[07:50] <Drule> Any ideas?
[07:50] <riktking> brophat, under the network notification yes
[07:50] <riktking> Drule, use a live CD
[07:50] <brophat> riktking yeah i worked on it for a while and it seems the wifi card has been having issues with ubuntu for a long time
[07:50] <skypent> Is there a way to change my ubuntu startup picture and music?
[07:50] <Tilt-GOD> Drule, tar -cvf backup.tar Folders/
[07:51] <brophat> riktking so i gave up and i am gonna use a wifi card i used a few years ago that worked ok
[07:51] <sta7ic> Drule: either mount the HD on a different laptop or get like a laptop drive reader, plug it into a working linux server and mount -t ext3 or whatever and cp -R
[07:51] <riktking> brophat, probs best! install the new card and try it out
[07:52] <sta7ic> Drule: possibly use the live CD and scp the data over to another computer on the network
[07:52] <brophat> riktking well i guess that is it thanks for your  help i will stick in the new card tomorrow
[07:52] <Drule> Great suggestions, I'll start with the live cd option as I actually have one handy. :-D
[07:52] <brophat> riktking but it is weird how when i disabled the onboard wifi in the bios, ubuntu would not boot
[07:53] <riktking> brophat, that is,i dont really know enough about that!
[07:53] <Tilt-GOD> am i the only one on the entire interwebs that wants to use my wwan/gps/etc super card ?
[07:53] <droopal> Tilt-GPD: have just dont that, I have to pastebinj it, and will post in a sec
[07:53] <q_a_z_steve> Hey, can I get a conclusive answer about minimum system reqs for Ubuntu? Found out this system has enough RAM from the 10.10 release notes, but it doesn't say anything about processor. Wikipedia numbers are a lot higher for everything...
[07:53] <Tilt-GOD> :/
[07:53] <brophat> riktking maybe since i did not delete it from ubuntu it was hanging looking for it?
[07:54] <nirazio> How can I install Firefox 4 nightlies and Firefox 3.6 stable on the same system?
[07:54] <upsla> can anyone please help with usb adsl modem connection problem
[07:54] <q_a_z_steve> SolidLiq ^^
[07:54] <riktking> brophat, shouldnt matter tbf, u shouldnt have to delete from ubuntu
[07:54] <Tilt-GOD> q_a_z_steve, right now im using a 1.6G Atom with 2g of ram and its running tops
[07:54] <riktking> brophat, you can add devices live - have with usb network cards in the past
[07:55] <upsla> can anyone tell me how to register nickname ??
[07:55] <brophat> riktking well i dont have usb network card
[07:55] <q_a_z_steve> Tilt-GOD well this system is way below that. <450 MHz and 320MB RAM
[07:55] <q_a_z_steve> upsla contact NickServ
[07:56] <moonraker> upsla: its on the main freenode website
[07:56] <droopal> Tilt-GOD: appologies for mispelling your name just now, I am really sorry about that. Here is the pastebin for the log pastebin.ubuntu_uk.org/98283
[07:56] <riktking> brophat, its a benefit of linux, stuff just configures live
[07:56] <YankeesFan> can caffiene work on ubuntu?
[07:56] <zfe> rg
[07:56] <Tilt-GOD> q_a_z_steve, should be okay, but dont plan on encoding video or anything with it
[07:56] <YankeesFan> gnome rather
[07:56] <q_a_z_steve> YankeesFan You mean that lil program to keep your computer awake?
[07:56] <YankeesFan> no the kde media player
[07:57] <q_a_z_steve> Tilt-GOD I can't seem to get it to boot, to TRY mode, and I'm not sure my friend wants this installed quite yet.
[07:57] <q_a_z_steve> YankeesFan oh, sorry.  Kaffeine for KDE btw
[07:58] <sta7ic> nirazio: just download the src for the second one, and 'make'/compile it just dont 'make install' and it wont put it on the system, you will have to run from that dir
[07:58] <Tilt-GOD> droopal, link didnt work
[07:58] <q_a_z_steve> Tilt-GOD Funny enough I think it's a celeron, is that even possible at like 434 MHz?
[07:59] <moonraker> Reading ubuntu forums - people have loads of issues after updating the files - question as a newbie how often should i update (if at all)??:)
[07:59] <Tilt-GOD> ohhh
[07:59] <Tilt-GOD> those are probably not i686
[07:59] <nirazio> sta7ic: for the first one?
[07:59] <sta7ic> moonraker: at the beginning of a system build before you install anything then never again =p
[07:59] <Tilt-GOD> 533 celeries were i586 iirc
[08:00] <sta7ic> nirazio: lets say regular firefox is the first one, well apt-get or whatver its already there, just use it as normal, and when u want the second one, just run it out of command line or a create a shortcut to call that specific binary
[08:00] <q_a_z_steve> Tilt-GOD What's the command to turn off the quiet-splash altogether on boot? <You're probably right. Celeries, I like that> I think it would be useful if I could get the code/family name...
[08:00] <droopal> Tilt-GOD: patebin.ubuntu-uk.org/98283 sorry, hope this works.
[08:00] <sta7ic> q_a_z_steve: i think its quiet in grub
[08:01] <moonraker> sta7ic - So what do u suggest in April when 11.04 is issued - is this a new install or a simply upgrage from the Upgrade Manager in 10.10?:)
[08:01] <q_a_z_steve> sta7ic so linux quiet?
[08:01] <droopal> Tilt-GOD: you need to copy and paste
[08:01] <q_a_z_steve> or quiet linux I can never keep them straight
[08:01] <sta7ic> q_a_z_steve: look for grub flags, i think quiet used to be a flag or nosplash u will see it if u look
[08:01] <twister004> hii guys... im connecting to an ubuntu machine using VNC... i want to get console access via vnc.. how can i do this?
[08:02] <q_a_z_steve> sta7ic I've recently used --no-quiet-splash, but it comes on after a bit anyway :(
[08:02] <ikt> moonraker, it depends, you usually want to update as frequently as possible
[08:02] <sta7ic> moonraker: a new vm with 11.04 ive never been a fan of upgrading anything even all the crap patches MS puts out, SP's, etc...get the system stable, firewall, turn off services and leave it be
[08:03] <q_a_z_steve> twister004 ssh
[08:03] <ikt> sta7ic, then you're not doing it right
[08:03] <sta7ic> q_a_z_steve: doesnt sound like the right flag your say no quiet, i think you want quiet
[08:03] <sta7ic> ikt: whats the point of upgrading a bunch of packages you dont use
[08:03] <Tilt-GOD> q_a_z_steve, at the grub menu edit the boot line to include nosplash and remove quiet
[08:03] <sta7ic> bloatware
[08:03] <dblanchard> Is there a better node to ask how to hibernate BackTrack Linux?
[08:03] <ikt> sta7ic, updating frequently is one of the best measures you can do to keep your computer safe
[08:04] <twister004> guys.. can i make change to some gnome file to redirect console session to my vnc screen?
[08:04] <sta7ic> from who, no one cars about your ppp connection
[08:04] <q_a_z_steve> Tilt-GOD sta7ic I see, I combined the two. My bad
[08:04] <droopal> Tilt-GOD: pastebin.ubuntu-uk.org/98283, sorry, mis-spelt address. This should work
[08:04] <Tilt-GOD> sorry the delay guys, im on a spotty connection, untill i can get my gobi/novatel usb adapter to work
[08:04] <sta7ic> "keep my computer safe, i run linux" n00b
[08:04] <gobbe> droopal: the disk
[08:04] <q_a_z_steve> !backtrack > dblanchard
[08:04] <gobbe> droopal: how did you try to mount it when you got permission error
[08:04] <sta7ic> ikt, say something useful obviously your a tool
[08:05] <sta7ic> "i run linux and update to keep my computer safe and virus scan it"
[08:05] <droopal> gobbe: plugged it into the usb port
[08:05] <gobbe> droopal: ok, can you try to mount it from terminal
[08:05] <sta7ic> firewall, mac filtering, turn off ports, no bloatware no issues
[08:05] <moonraker> Sta7ic: I have converted to linux and dont want to wreck the install, but as others have said there is 250Mb of updates and half i dont recognise
[08:05] <droopal> gobbe: how do I do that?
[08:06] <sta7ic> moonraker: exactly..
[08:06] <Eagle> /etc/default$ aptitude download <ubuntu restricted extras>
[08:06] <Eagle> bash: syntax error near unexpected token `newline' /etc/default$  Could someone tell me where im going wrong???
[08:06] <sta7ic> moonraker: 80% of people or more are idiots and followers, is that about the percentage of people who want to ruin your good working install?
[08:06] <gobbe> droopal: sudo mount /dev/sdXY /mnt/something
[08:07] <sta7ic> Eagle: show us the command you are issuing
[08:07] <dblanchard> @ubotta, awesome, thanks.
[08:07] <riktking> moonraker, they are usually safe to install
[08:07] <moonraker> sta7ic: Thanks for that - I will just watch others in here and wait:)
[08:07] <rahadian> HALO
[08:07] <Eagle> sta7ic: Thats it, I think......
[08:08] <sta7ic> moonraker: if you see a package you actually use and would like a newer version, then yeah just grab that one
[08:08] <q_a_z_steve>  twister004 I would recommend ssh . It's way more straight forward. Is there a reason you want to vnc to display::00414 or whatever to get to console? Why not VNC and start terminal?
[08:08] <llutz_> Eagle: sudo aptitude download ubuntu-restricted-extras
[08:08] <sta7ic> Eagle: thats not a command
[08:08] <rahadian> hai all
[08:08] <q_a_z_steve> hello
[08:09] <sta7ic> yeah throw sudo...and next time dont paste your prompt
[08:09] <Eagle> llutz_: sta7ic: Thanks :)  :)  ")
[08:09] <upsla> hi
[08:10] <rahadian> i wanna ask, how to make a .deb file from .tar.gz or .tarbz2???
[08:10] <Tilt-GOD> rahadian, google checkconfig
[08:10] <q_a_z_steve> upsla have we already given you crap for logging in to IRC while the admin on your computer?
[08:11] <llutz_> !checkinstall > rahadian easiest way
[08:11] <Eagle> sta7ic: OK! now that I have entered it in Properly.... Where do I find it?????
[08:11] <Tilt-GOD> basicly when yah get the the "make install" you run checkconfig instead
[08:11] <droopal> gobbe: sorry, having problems with netbook itself now, taking ages to turn on, be back in a sec
[08:11] <llutz_> Eagle: /var/cache/apt/packages
mind ur work .. if u can't help me.
[08:12] <appi_uppi> histo, I am trying to remove chrome from syn pack mgr as it is corrupted. But after reinstallation I could still see the old version but not the new version. Could anyone please suggest me to fix it?
[08:12] <llutz_> Eagle: /var/cache/apt/archives    sry
[08:12] <Tilt-GOD> /join #chromium
[08:12] <Eagle> llutz_: :)  Thanks for the help  :)
[08:12] <q_a_z_steve> upsla You hadn't said anything recently. Just thought I'd ask, because it's not an ideal thing to do...
[08:12] <appi_uppi> histo,  I am trying to remove chrome from syn pack mgr as it is corrupted. But after reinstallation I could still see the old version but not the new version. Could anyone please suggest me to fix it?
[08:13] <rahadian> thanks all..........
[08:13] <twister004> hii guys... im connecting to an ubuntu machine using VNC... i want to get console access via vnc.. how can i do this?
[08:13] <Eagle> llutz_: Sorry but do I type that in the terminal?  /var/cache/apt/archives sry
[08:13] <llutz_> Eagle: ls /var/cache/apt/archives
what abt this.  i am posting the link of dialer settings in windows. http://imagebin.org/132498  http://imagebin.org/132499  http://imagebin.org/132500
[08:14] <q_a_z_steve> ok...
[08:14] <sta7ic> Eagle: ./install windows
can u help me now ??
[08:14] <q_a_z_steve> what's the goal
[08:14] <sta7ic> Eagle: just like in dos, you need to 'cd' change dir into that dir
these are settings used by my dialer in windows.
[08:15] <q_a_z_steve> I got that!
[08:15] <Eagle> sta7ic: sorry im not with you?
please see the post and ask questions.
[08:15] <q_a_z_steve> !ask
[08:16] <sta7ic> twister004: console console? or is a root temrnial window good enough ?
[08:16] <q_a_z_steve> upsla I'm not a mind reader. Do you want these same settings in Ubuntu, or are you just posting images for me to fapp over?
[08:16] <upsla> connection problem with my usb adsl modem.  i am posting the link of dialer settings in windows. http://imagebin.org/132498  http://imagebin.org/132499  http://imagebin.org/132500
[08:16] <twister004> sta7ic.. I want to get onto the same session as the local user
[08:17] <Israfel> Custom icons don't seem to work. I even tried moving them to /usr/share/icons/hicolor/48x48/apps/
[08:17] <q_a_z_steve> upsla that's better. Now what have you tried in linux?
no. iam posting these because it might help u guys to guide me in settinng up my modem in ubuntu.
[08:17] <sta7ic> twister004: huh? like watch someone elses session? or you want to see all the error msgs spit out like you would on a real console
[08:18] <Ramiro0> joly roger wifi
[08:18] <rahadian> um....last day i installed awOken icon theme, and i used that icon. and why did the gnomenu always error??? please help me
i have tried pppoe ,pppd etc etc.
[08:18] <Israfel> rahadian, What was the error?
[08:19] <twister004> sta7ic... when I execute a 'who'.. I see that there is a separate session(tty7) for the local user.. and my vnc session is different... how can i acccess that session?
[08:19] <TheMusicGuy> How can I enable typing japanese katakana/hiranga/etc on a US keyboard?
[08:19] <The_Maverick> i have a jar file and i need top execute it. there is a command and it is something like "chmod +X minecraft_server.jar"? something like that?
[08:19] <zamba> where can i get online openoffice help?
[08:19] <sta7ic> twister004: kill their bash session with root and it will go away
[08:19] <rahadian> israfel: it wont open
[08:19] <jrib> The_Maverick: don't you generally java -jar file.jar?
[08:20] <llutz_> The_Maverick: java -jar file.jar         put it into a simple script
[08:20] <Israfel> rahadian, The menu won't open?
[08:20] <twister004> sta7ic,.. they may have some important stuff in that session
[08:20] <jrib> !openoffice | zamba
[08:20] <rahadian> israfel:yes, it stuck
[08:20] <sta7ic> twister004: and im sure they want to keep it that way
[08:20] <sta7ic> without you poking aroudn
[08:20] <zamba> jrib: not installation, usage
any help ?
[08:20] <jrib> zamba: "User help available in #openoffice.org"
[08:20] <twister004> sta7ic... I have logged in via VNC using the same user login as the local user.. but that has created two sessions... I wanted to login to his session
[08:21] <Israfel> rahadian, Stuck open or closed? Because icons shouldn't have anything to do with the actual menu functions.
[08:21] <vlt> twister004: x11vnc
[08:21] <twister004> anyways... I wanted to know that if I make a config change in my session, will it be reflected in his session as well?
[08:21] <llutz_> twister004: you'll need x11vnc
[08:21] <Israfel> rahadian, if it's stuck open, try changing the appearance. or use terminal to restart the gdm.
[08:21] <The_Maverick> thank you jrib and llutz
[08:22] <X0nar> twister004: nope .. it is because you haven't shut down the other connection
[08:22] <Eagle> sta7ic:/var/cache/apt/archives. Where do I type it in?? Or how do I get to it, could you explain it simpler????? Please????
[08:22] <dodgy_script> hi i got a error message in the terminal output after typing sudo apt-get install python3.1*  .  could someone have a look http://pastebin.com/6uMbPN2B
[08:23] <rahadian> israfel: it's stuck while i want to open it
[08:23] <llutz_> Eagle: cd /var/cache/apt/archives
[08:23] <upsla> connection problem with my usb adsl modem.  i am posting the link of dialer settings in windows. http://imagebin.org/132498  http://imagebin.org/132499  http://imagebin.org/132500
[08:23] <twister004> yep.. so i though, If i make a change in some gnome-session file, and redirect that session to my vnc screen.. i would gain access to the  local user's session
[08:23] <twister004> thpught*
[08:23] <sta7ic> Eagle: first off...issue this command: cd /var/cache/apt/;ls -l
[08:23] <q_a_z_steve> Eagle http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
[08:23] <Eagle> llutz_: ?????? cd ???? sorry dont understand
[08:23] <sta7ic> cd = change directory
[08:23] <ylmffans> 有没有中文的。
[08:23] <desaiu> i installed jack and now my audio isn't working, help?
[08:24] <sta7ic> oh my, linux is not for you Eagle
[08:24] <Eagle> sta7ic: Why??????
[08:24] <q_a_z_steve> !chinese > ylmffans ???
[08:24] <sta7ic> Eagle: you need to read the basics first, because the command CD is almost ambiguous to all operating systems
[08:24] <vlt> !cn | ylmffans
[08:24] <sta7ic> the command cd works in windows and unix and other places
[08:24] <ylmffans> yeah
[08:24] <llutz_> Eagle: go and read some linux usage basics and pls repair your ?-key
[08:24] <llutz_> !manual > Eagle
[08:24] <X0nar> dodgy_script: my .. that is a whole lot of python why did you put the * on it
[08:25] <Israfel> rahadian, Tried uninstalling? sudo apt-get remove awoken-icon-theme-customization  ?
[08:25] <q_a_z_steve> ylmffans Did I guess right? or !jp
[08:25] <sta7ic> Eagle: read some linux stuff before you ask the most basic of basic Operating systems
[08:25] <ylmffans> thanks
[08:25] <q_a_z_steve> no problem :)
[08:25] <q_a_z_steve> llutz_ ? Key?
[08:25] <rahadian> israfel: no
[08:26] <X0nar> dodgy_script: just do this apt-get --purge remove python* and then reinstall the python you need
[08:26] <Israfel> rahadian, I'd try removing it and reinstalling. Although, there may be other things you have to remove, awoken-icon-theme (etc)
[08:27] <dodgy_script> X0nar, im having trouble importing modules e.g. import subsystem
[08:27] <llutz_> q_a_z_steve: ?-key yes  (the one with the question mark on it hangs)
[08:27] <dodgy_script> X0nar, i guess its overkill !!
[08:27] <Israfel> rahadian, Actually, I think my first one was wrong, the package is awoken-icon-thene
[08:27] <Israfel> rahadian, Actually, I think my first one was wrong, the package is awoken-icon-theme
[08:27] <Guest85981> hehe
[08:28] <twister004> guys.. i think I can make changes to the .vnc/xstartup file... and redirect the session.. am I correct?.. please confirm
[08:28] <Eagle> sta7ic: I am trying to learn it!
[08:28] <X0nar> dodgy_script: it sure is .. you need to select only the packages you need because you end up with a load of stuff you don't need.
[08:28] <twister004> I think I need to add some line in that file.. dont remember
[08:29] <Israfel> twister004, What's the ultimate goal here?
[08:29] <rahadian> israfel: okay, i'd try it too............
[08:29] <kcj> I was deleting some files off an ntfs partition and the external HDD became disconnected. Now the partition won't mount. Help (freaking out).
[08:29] <sta7ic> Israfel: he wants to shadow someone elses session
[08:29] <twister004> Israfel.. I want to get onto the console session of the machine.. The same session  as the Local User
[08:30] <Israfel> twister004, Ah, so you can play a video for them? or too them?
[08:30] <twister004> I won't call it a shadow.. it's the same session.. the local user should lose visual access
[08:30] <q_a_z_steve> llutz_ hangs what? I thought you were telling him to fix his questions perhaps...
[08:30] <q_a_z_steve> twister004 if you think that will work, TRY IT
[08:30] <twister004> Israfel.. something like that.. I want to make changes to their session
[08:30] <sta7ic> *yawn*
[08:31] <twister004> do you guys know what I need to add in the .vnc/xstartup file to redirect the screen output
[08:31] <X0nar> kcj: apt-get install ntfs-progs gparted then go in and look to see if partition table is okay
[08:31] <dodgy_script> X0nar, i can import with python2.*  though not with  py3.1  I'll  do as suggested thanks !!
[08:31] <q_a_z_steve> kcj what's the error you are getting?
[08:31] <rahadian> israfel: it doesnt work.......
[08:31] <jaykub> hello my awesome ubuntu users
[08:31] <X0nar> kcj: don't format anything .. just look at the partitions
[08:31] <kcj> X0nar: ok
[08:32] <Israfel> twister004, That sounds interesting, makes me wonder if there's a way to force a machine to load into a screened session..  Connect to a remote user's X session?
[08:32] <desaiu> i installed jackd and now pulseaudio isn't working or something
[08:32] <twister004> yes!!
[08:32] <desaiu> i saw some message right before gdm started about it
[08:32] <Israfel> rahadian, There has to be a way to remove that package. Do you remember what it was called?
[08:32] <twister004> vlt.. yes!
[08:32] <desaiu> ubottu: pulseaudio
[08:32] <vlt> twister004: What's wrong with x11vnc?
[08:32] <kcj> X0nar:  E: Unable to locate package ntfs-progs
[08:33] <twister004> vlt.. I think it is possible using normal vncserver.. why install x11vnc ?
[08:33] <q_a_z_steve> desaiu Ctrl+Alt F1 to see if you can get the message still
[08:33] <X0nar> kcj: have you got synaptic?
[08:33] <vlt> twister004: When you want to connect to an X (not Xvnc) session you need x11vnc
[08:33] <kcj> X0nar: Yep. I'm on a Linux Mint 10 live CD BTW
[08:34] <vlt> twister004: You don't need x11vnc if we are talking about Xvnc sessions only
[08:34] <vlt> twister004: Is the remote machine headless?
[08:34] <X0nar> kcj: well this is ubuntu but i will look for you brb
[08:34] <twister004> vlt.. I had done this before.. unfortunately, I didnt document it:(... I remember I had made changes to the .vnc/xstartup file.. and got onto the same session as the user
[08:34] <Israfel> I must be getting tired, I kept reading vnc as vlc.
[08:34] <q_a_z_steve> !mint
[08:34] <kcj> X0nar: ntfsprogs is installed
[08:35] <kcj> q_a_z_steve: irrelevant
[08:35] <q_a_z_steve> Just checking
[08:35] <Hurryhoo> ??
[08:35] <sta7ic> twister004: how come so malicious?
[08:35] <sta7ic> twister004: what if they dont want you to see, spying on your g/f
[08:35] <twister004> :D
[08:36] <sta7ic> or b/f
[08:36] <twister004> haha!
[08:36] <rahadian> israfel: no, sorry
[08:36] <twister004> no
[08:36] <twister004> im a guy
[08:36] <twister004> anyways... Im providing IT support there
[08:36] <sta7ic> yes and you want to spy on your b/f for malicious reasons and u come in here a family channel and ask for help
[08:36] <vlt> twister004: x11vnc works fine for this task
[08:36] <sta7ic> ok
[08:36] <X0nar> kcj: they aren't giving a list of ntfs packages so i suggest you get a live cd of ubuntu and come back on that
[08:36] <moonraker> Sta7ic: Have you come across the error msg "hd0 mdos1 error"?  Got this trying to install maverick onto vista hd?
[08:37] <kcj> X0nar: Did you get my last message?
[08:37] <sta7ic> twister004: was the thing you set in the .vnc file something like "DISPLAY=:0.1
[08:37] <fizy[laptop]> how do i modify root-access only files? im trying to edit a config file, but i need root permissions
[08:37] <vlt> twister004: (I never tried attaching Xvnc to a real X session)
[08:37] <llutz_> fizy[laptop]: sudo nano file
[08:37] <fizy[laptop]> from command line?
[08:37] <llutz_> fizy[laptop]: yes
[08:37] <X0nar> kcj: okay i see that now .. so go to your gparted and it will scannn for all diskc
[08:37] <fizy[laptop]> thx
[08:37] <X0nar> disks
[08:38] <sta7ic> moonraker: what command, what context, need more info than that
[08:38] <q_a_z_steve> YES Someone lamer than me trying to do IT Support too. There is hope.
[08:38] <sta7ic> im not google
[08:38] <X0nar> kcj: will be under system administration utilities
[08:38] <q_a_z_steve> twister004 Just really quick, Why don't you use ssh to their machine?
[08:39] <kcj> X0nar: I know. I'm not a noob.
[08:39] <vlt> q_a_z_steve: twister004 needs ssh to run x11vnc anyway
[08:39] <q_a_z_steve> Are they going to install that? Did I miss the new star in the East?
[08:40] <kcj> X0nar: gparted is open. What would you like me to do?
[08:40] <X0nar> kcj: did this happen while you were on the current live session?
[08:40] <kcj> X0nar: No.
[08:40] <moonraker> Sta7ic: When i first tried to install maverick onto vista hd - allowed maverick to occur free space and create a new partition (worked fine) When I re-booted got the dual boot grub menu but when selecting maverick screen when blank and a few seconds later got that msg. Overcome the problem by installing maverick onto a clean hd. Posted this on ubuntu forums but no one got back to me. 3 other people had the same problem.
[08:41] <Drule> Hey, I booted Ubuntu with a live CD and I am trying to delete a folder
[08:41] <Drule> but it's giving me "permission denied"
[08:41] <Drule> what can I do?
[08:41] <jrib> Drule: delete what folder?
[08:41] <X0nar> kcj: did you get gparted and is the disc being recognised?
[08:41] <sta7ic> moonraker: i dont know but first place i would look is /boot/grub/grub.conf
[08:41] <rahadian> i wanna ask again........can you show me how to remaster a LiveCD????
[08:41] <jrib> !remaster | rahadian
[08:42] <Drule> jrib: A user-created folder.
[08:42] <Drule> The owner is "nobody"
[08:42] <sta7ic> Drule: you probably are trying to delete a virutal folder on a virtual OS, did you mount the HD and then try and delete from there?
[08:42] <spaceterz> :D
[08:42] <jrib> Drule: you created a folder on the live cd?  It shouldn't be owned by "nobody" if that was the case.
[08:42] <kcj> X0nar: Yes.
[08:43] <sign_> 大家好
[08:43] <rahadian> it's very helpful, thanks @jrib @ubottu
[08:43] <moonraker> Sta7ic: Not a problem now as install works fine on its own hd - just curious. (as I wont be using windows again). As you might have guessed I am rapidly learning linux o/s LOL
[08:43] <Drule> No, the folder is on my physical HDD. The reason why it's owned by "nobody" is because my Ubuntu is completely broken, hence why I booted it with a live CD. I need to delete this folder so I can make enough space to zip the files I need to back up.
[08:43] <X0nar> kcj: any errors and has it still got data on it?
[08:43] <Drule> So the question is, how can I delete this folder?
[08:43] <jrib> Drule: gksudo nautilus, then delete the folder
[08:44] <llutz_> Drule: sudo rm -rf /path/to/folder
[08:45] <kcj> X0nar: http://i.imgur.com/Ti8bz.png
[08:46] <kcj> X0nar: That^^^
[08:46] <Hurryhoo> ??????????
[08:46] <sta7ic> Drule: sudo rm -fR "path-to-dir"
[08:46] <Israfel> How do I change the password on my keyring?
[08:46] <sta7ic> Drule: try that
[08:47] <Drule> Aight, I tried jrib's gksudo nautilus
[08:47] <Drule> and deleted the folder in the file manager
[08:47] <X0nar> kcj: it looks fine are you sure that is the external drive?
[08:47] <Drule> it disappeared instantantly
[08:47] <Drule> did it really disappear?
[08:47] <Drule> .
[08:47] <sta7ic> Drule: awww boo, gui is no fun
[08:47] <Drule> instantly*
[08:48] <FloodBot3> Drule: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[08:48] <IdleOne> Drule: yes it did
[08:48] <Hurryhoo> 汉字。。。新人。。。
[08:48] <IdleOne> !cn
[08:48] <Drule> Well, I'm kind of panicking here as I'm experiencing tons of problems on both of my laptops. I just want to get these files off of my computer and reinstall linux.
[08:48] <Drule> Ah god damn it!
[08:48] <kcj> X0nar: It was external when the incident happened but I have installed it into my laptop now.
[08:48] <Drule> I keep getting "zip I/O error: No space left on device" :-/
[08:48] <Hurryhoo> thx
[08:48] <IdleOne> Drule: empty the trash
[08:48] <Drule> I did.
[08:49] <Drule> The weird part is that the folders are 20gb unzipped, and I have 22gb left on my HDD
[08:49] <Drule> 26gb*
[08:49] <X0nar> kcj: go to system then "media" and then browse through the hard drive sda ??
[08:49] <Drule> Could this have something to do with me running from a live cd?
[08:49] <iceroot> Drule: 22gb left on the folder you are running unzip?
[08:49] <Drule> No, I'm trying to zip 20gb of data on a HDD with 26gb left.
[08:49] <amit> changing in host file doesnot open other another web instead of other?
[08:49] <ds4h> I get this error while trying to install GIMP: http://imagebin.org/132561
[08:49] <q_a_z_steve> sta7ic I tried nosplash and yet I'm looking at one again after only a few seconds... What
[08:49] <ds4h> any workaround?
[08:50] <kcj> X0nar: It's not mounted to "/media". I can't mount it.
[08:50] <sta7ic> q_a_z_steve: i didnt say use that, i said look at the grub flags if this is even grub we are talking about
[08:50] <jrib> ds4h: pastebin the result of « apt-cache policy gimp »
[08:50] <X0nar> kcj: don't understand .. put it back in the enclosure and then put back your other hard drive ... do a live session from scratch and plug the external enclosure in
[08:50] <ds4h> 1in
[08:50] <ds4h> 1min*
[08:50] <q_a_z_steve> sta7ic \'s another way I can get past what I think was a kernel panic, and maybe find the processor code/family name... This is grub. Ubuntu 10.10 liveCD
[08:51] <kcj> X0nar: Why?
[08:51] <sta7ic> q_a_z_steve: http://www.owlriver.com/tips/hands-off/images.html
[08:51] <sta7ic> ok goodnight off to bed
[08:51] <q_a_z_steve> sta7ic I have flashing CAPS and SCROLL
[08:51] <q_a_z_steve> ok
[08:52] <ds4h> here it is: http://paste.ubuntu.com/553928/
[08:52] <amit> help me i modify my hosts file with two IP's, the motto is to open a web instead of other when i will enter the url
[08:52] <X0nar> kcj: if you manage to save these files where are you going to put them?
[08:53] <q_a_z_steve> sta7ic I think that article is more toward making my own... I'll read whether it has "turn off splash"...
[08:53] <kcj> X0nar: I plan to get the ntfs repaired and leave it. My other disk has bad sectors. I've been running off my live cd for a week now.
[08:53] <jrib> ds4h: pastebin « sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install gimp »
[08:53] <rethus> i've seen the mint-menu on distrowatch, and that exactly what i miss after change from kde to gnome.. have someone install it on ubuntu 10.10... what have i to do tu run it?
[08:54] <AbhiJit> .txt is normal text extension for win. so whats the default for linux?
[08:55] <jrib> AbhiJit: you can use .txt.  Linux doesn't care all that much about extensions
[08:55] <X0nar> kcj: your drive is mounted already .. theres nothing wrong with it. Just go to system places and browse the files
[08:55] <nit-wit> rethus, download it and load a thumb and try it out
[08:55] <AbhiJit> jrib, yah but i want to know
[08:55] <jrib> AbhiJit: I just said, use .txt
[08:55] <AbhiJit> jrib, ok
[08:55] <dirtydevil> No init fount. Try passing init= bootarg.  BusyBox v1.13.3 (Ubuntu 1:1.13.3-1ubuntu7) built in shell (ash) Enter 'help' for a list of build in commands  (initramfs)
[08:56] <kcj> X0nar: odd "sudo mount /dev/sda1 /media/disk" worked.
[08:56] <ds4h> jrib: apt installed it, no errors
[08:56] <riktking_> logout
[08:56] <rahadian> ask again (sorry, im newbie in ubuntu), why ubuntu and linux is virus-free????
[08:56] <jrib> ds4h: it didn't ask you to confirm installation of untrusted packages?
[08:56] <dirtydevil> How can I solve this problem?
[08:56] <jrib> !virus | rahadian
[08:56] <nit-wit> dirtydevil, boot problem?
[08:56] <kcj> X0nar: But double clicking on it wouldn't.
[08:57] <ds4h> jrib: just the usual Y/n about download
[08:57] <X0nar> kcj: well can you browse it now?
[08:57] <dirtydevil> Hopw to solve it?
[08:57] <sta7ic> rahadian:  because most people dont write virus for linux, *YET*
[08:57] <kcj> X0nar: yes
[08:57] <X0nar> kcj: then you can exhale huh lol
[08:57] <jrib> ds4h: hmm.  Do you have any unofficial repositories (including ppas)?
[08:57] <Guest46857> can you run code using the text editor?
[08:57] <kcj> X0nar: Indeed. Thanks for your help.
[08:57] <dirtydevil> nit-wit: : how to solve this error?
[08:58] <Guest46857> like compile code?
[08:58] <X0nar> kcj: if i was you i would put that old drive in the enclosure and format it to ntfs in gparted
[08:58] <jrib> Guest46857: well you can edit code with the text editor and some text editors might offer some convenience menu to build/run it
[08:58] <rethus> install mint-menu on 10.10
[08:58] <rethus> http://www.webupd8.org/2010/05/install-linux-mint-main-menu-mintmenu.html
[08:58] <ds4h> jrib: not sure. how do I check that?
[08:58] <Chousuke> It's also because Linux is mostly immune to viruses. And against the kind of malware that Linux isn't safe from, a virus detector wouldn't do anything
[08:58] <nit-wit> dirtydevil, you will have to more decriptive type of install, and any duall boots,or is it a wubi
[08:59] <jrib> ds4h: it would be something that you would have had to have done.  But you can pastebin /etc/apt/sources.list and /etc/apt/sources.list.d/*
[08:59] <rahadian> owh....
[08:59] <kcj> X0nar: Probably. I'd formant it to ext3 though. MS can die in a fire.
[08:59] <X0nar> kcj: also when you have backed up all your stuff get yourself some ubuntu and install that on your laptop
[08:59] <dirtydevil> nit-wit: : Its a dual boot and other partition is Windows vista
[09:00] <X0nar> kcj: well i tend to go for ext4 where i can
[09:00] <kcj> X0nar: I was having crashing issues with Ubuntu so I moved to Mint.
[09:00] <nit-wit> dirtydevil, can you run this script and pastebin it.  http://bootinfoscript.sourceforge.net/
[09:00] <kcj> X0nar: I find Ubuntu to be too unstable.
[09:01] <X0nar> kcj: maybe knock back to lucid LTS in a netbook install
[09:01] <The_Maverick> i have a java problem again :( it says "Unable to access jarfile minecraft.jar
[09:01] <The_Maverick> "
[09:01] <kieppie> hi guys. I've just re-installed an ultra-xkinny XBMC system (X only, no desktop), but I'm having audio problems. how can I test audio outside of a desktop?
[09:01] <kcj> X0nar: Meh. Linux Mint if freaking awesome though.
[09:01] <dirtydevil> nit-wit: actually I am trying to boot it from live CD
[09:02] <dirtydevil> nit-wit: but its not booting infact
[09:02] <dirtydevil> :(
[09:02] <kieppie> kcj: X0nar: mint is pretty wicked; moon OS is pretty cool too
[09:02] <kcj> X0nar: I highly recommend it.
[09:02] <X0nar> kcj: haven't tried it for a few years - but if you like it then go for it
[09:02] <rahadian> hoox can i play Playstation 1 on my Ubuntu????
[09:02] <rahadian> how can i play Playstation 1 on my Ubuntu????
[09:02] <kcj> X0nar: You should give it a try.
[09:03] <kieppie> rahadian: probably; You'll need some sort of emulator
[09:03] <rahadian> kieppie: what is the name of the emulator???
[09:03] <X0nar> kcj: i am Debian sqeeze girl these days .. got sick of plymouth and mountall and now nuveau graphics drivers had enough
[09:04] <ds4h> jrib: files in sources.list.d : ubuntu-wine-ppa-maverick.list  ubuntu-wine-ppa-maverick.list.save; contents of sources.list : http://paste.ubuntu.com/553934/
[09:04] <nit-wit> dirtydevil, hard to say,could bse any number of reasons from a bad download, to fast of a burn, not burned as an image
[09:04] <nit-wit> *be
[09:04] <kieppie> rahadian: no idea; you'll have to google it
[09:04] <kcj> kcj: I tried Debian once. Hated it.
[09:04] <DJones> rahadian: This might help, it references the installation of a playstation emulater and how to http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1512495 Not something I've used, but hopefully it'll get you started
[09:04] <ds4h> jrib: or you ment contents of those two files as well?
[09:04] <sta7ic> yeah
[09:04] <hdeshev> Hi everyone
[09:04] <jrib> ds4h: make sure you have the key for the wine ppa
[09:04] <rahadian> kieppie: okay, i'll try
[09:05] <jrib> ds4h: I did mean the contents, but I can guess them :)
[09:05] <dirtydevil> nit-wit: I have downloaded it from Ubuntu's Website and make it bootable using unetboorin
[09:05] <hdeshev> I have a minor annoyance with switching keyboard layouts (English <--> Bulgarian) and I was wondering if there's a way to fix it.
[09:05] <dirtydevil> unetbootin*
[09:05] <X0nar> kcj: liking it so far and you can install anything you want on a base system including ubuntu packages
[09:05] <hdeshev> Gnome seems to remember what layout I use for each program. Which is very cool.
[09:06] <ds4h> jrib: okay, how do I get/check keys? never dome this :]
[09:06] <kcj> X0nar: Sweet. I must go. I hope I don't screw up again. :)
[09:06] <hdeshev> But whenever I hit a shortcut that opens a new app or a window, that window gets to "inherit" the layout I use for the current window. Thus making me type commands in Bulgarian when I hit Alt-F2 to try and run a program
[09:06] <nit-wit> dirtydevil, are you using the latest unetbootin?
[09:06] <jrib> ds4h: how did you add the wine ppa?
[09:06] <dirtydevil> ya
[09:06] <X0nar> kcj: good luck with it cya
[09:06] <hdeshev> or keep the Bulgarian layout when I lock my workstation. Which kinda sucks when you try to type your password.
[09:07] <hdeshev> So, is there any way for Gnome to default to the *default* keyboard layout when it opens a new window?
[09:07] <ds4h> jrib: wine was installed through software center, I did not add any manual lines there
[09:07] <jrib> ds4h: you must have added the wine ppa at some point
[09:07] <nit-wit> dirtydevil, not sure really, with uneybootin you can't get to the main menu gui.
[09:07] <dirtydevil> nit-wit: think its not mounting /boot. is it so?
[09:07] <dirtydevil> nit-wit: so what should I do now?
[09:07] <ds4h> jrib: my memory must be messing around with me then
[09:08] <dirtydevil> nit-wit: I dont want to loose my data
[09:08] <nit-wit> dirtydevil, not sure it works for me generally I haven't had problems per-say. How many times have you loaded it?
[09:08] <jrib> ds4h: go here: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-wine/+archive/ppa and click on "What is this?" next to the signing key
[09:08] <Drule> I went out and bought a USB stick instead
[09:09] <Drule> works perfectly ;-D
[09:09] <nit-wit> dirtydevil, loaded the thumb
[09:09] <jrib> ds4h: then do step 6 for older (pre 9.10) systems even if your system is newer
[09:09] <vampirnata> morning all :)
[09:09] <dirtydevil> I had fedora first but from the first day i think its 28th April when ubuntu 10.04 is  launched , I have it installed
[09:09] <vampirnata> I'm having issues using ssh to connect to my server at home. could anyone help?
[09:10] <riktking> how do i install the netbook remix ontop of normal ubuntu?
[09:10] <jrib> vampirnata: does « ssh localhost » work on the server locally?
[09:10] <himani> hi
[09:10] <dirtydevil> nit-wit: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1386549
[09:10] <vampirnata> jrib: it does
[09:10] <dirtydevil> I was trying from this link
[09:10] <riktking> vampirnata, have you enabled port forward on your router?
[09:10] <jrib> vampirnata: it's almost always a router issue then
[09:10] <vampirnata> jrib: i have port forwarding set up on my router
[09:10] <himani> how can i call perl script from java in ubuntu 8.04
[09:10] <himani> can nybody help me out
[09:11] <vampirnata> jrib: it's forwarding to a non default port though
[09:11] <vampirnata> but i have set that port in sshd_config
[09:11] <jrib> vampirnata: did you restart ssh after doing that?
[09:11] <vampirnata> jrib: yes
[09:11] <jrib> vampirnata: and you connect locally on the server to that port?
[09:12] <vampirnata> also, i've done the following: i can't ping my home router's public address. but if i disable the firewall on the home router, i can ping the public ip
[09:12] <himani> how can i call perl script from java in ubuntu 8.04
[09:12] <vampirnata> jrib: also i can connect to the server from another machine on the same network as the server at home using the public ip address
[09:12] <TandemAdam> hey guys, I am looking to start using Ubuntu for the first time, and was wondering what you guys recommend. Currently Ihave a PC running Win Vista, but I am thinking of maybe using some kind of virtualization software. What is a good option? I don't really want to format my hdd, so does this sound ok?
[09:13] <vampirnata> jrib: just can't do it from work...
[09:13] <nit-wit> dirtydevil, you might just post a thread there.
[09:13] <jrib> himani: ##java for java help
[09:13] <jrib> vampirnata: you don't get a password prompt at all?  Would you mind pming me the ip to see if your work could be blocking you?
[09:14] <ds4h> jrib: if I copy signing key from the page, it says it is not valid, if I do command exactly as in the What is this manual, with the same key, it works
[09:14] <ds4h> jrib: w8. i messed up abit
[09:14] <jrib> ds4h: not sure what you mean.  If it's working now that's fine.  If you're still having issues, pastebin exactly what you executed and the output
[09:14] <kieppie> hmmmm :/ where should I go look for help with sound?
[09:17] <ds4h> jrib: problem solved. thank you for help, jrib :)
[09:17] <dirtydevil> nit-wit: ok. So there is any thing i can do to save my data?
[09:18] <nit-wit> dirtydevil, so your data is on vista?
[09:18] <dirtydevil> data is in ubuntu. Vista is working fine
[09:18] <riktking> how do i install the netbook remix ontop of ubuntu
[09:19] <nit-wit> dirtydevil, and it is a dual  boot not a wubi
[09:19] <dirtydevil> ya
[09:19] <rumpe1> riktking, install unity
[09:20] <riktking> rumpe1, thanks
[09:21] <nit-wit> dirtydevil, I think you will have to figure this out, it is basic stuff, you have the tools I don't know how they have been used.
[09:21] <q_a_z_steve> kieppie have you seen the links for !sound
[09:21] <dirtydevil> nit-wit: ok thanks for help anyway
[09:21] <kieppie> q_a_z_steve: not yet....
[09:21] <kieppie> ?sound
[09:21] <kieppie> !sound
[09:22] <Noorman> When locking the computer after unlocking all the icons are gone, does one recognize this?
[09:22] <q_a_z_steve> That middle one has some cool alsa tricks, for troubleshooting you'll get a whole webpage full of your own stuff as it is recognized
[09:23] <Noorman> ssh to the machine and it appears full responsive
[09:24] <q_a_z_steve> Noorman do you mean that after you see no icons, starting ssh from somewhere will trigger them to show?
[09:24] <kieppie> q_a_z_steve: yea.... I've checked those pages out. just closed the last tab before asking my question
[09:25] <Noorman> no, i meant to say that loging in from another machine works like a charme and there apears to be no bottle neck in performance and such
[09:25] <Noorman> but the desktop (gnome) is empty
[09:25] <q_a_z_steve> kieppie I'm not 100% on anything, especially since I think ALSA has yet to get my card supported. macbook pro with Intel/Cirrus <can't remember the number>...
[09:26] <tasse> Hi there - if i cannot view several pages (like www.wolframalpha.com) ohn my Ubuntu 10.04. If i ping these pages or try to connect via IP it doesn't work either - i'm behind a VPN - but i can access these sites under windows - has sb any clue? thanks
[09:26] <kieppie> another sys of mine is an "old" MBP (SantaRosa) model. audio's fine there....
[09:26] <q_a_z_steve> Noorman This session isn't allowed to show that user the same icons perhaps? Just throwing that out there as a few things to check
[09:27] <ylmfos> kk
[09:27] <ceders> I got a problem. I removed a slave drive from my linux box and now when booting up in its very slow. Takes 10 minutes to login under a user. I place the slave drive back in but its still slow. Any suggestions?
[09:28] <q_a_z_steve> tasse Can you ping by the name from ubuntu?
[09:28] <Noorman> i will look into it more closely
[09:28] <tasse> yes i can q_a_z_steve
[09:28] <ajitam> hi on may ssh machine I have set "alias ls='ls --color=auto'" but is there any other configuration for the color ? curently my path is blue and I would like to change that
[09:29] <q_a_z_steve> kieppie where did you find the family name? I haven't looked into that enough I guess, but I want to know mine.
[09:29] <q_a_z_steve> tasse so is there an error in firefox?
[09:30] <q_a_z_steve> ajitam sounds like a terminal profile preference
[09:30] <tasse> nope its just not loading, tried it with several browsers (opera, chromium, firefox)  - same result, just a "white" page
[09:30] <chull> i have just gotten lucid, and trying to find my important files on my old drive, i can't find .xchat2, i have enabled hidden files and i'm in my home directory.. but it can't find xchat?
[09:30] <kieppie> q_a_z_steve: I have 2: my ATI's HDMI (which I'll concern myself with later) & thwe on-board Intel AD198x (which is pretty bog-standard)
[09:31] <q_a_z_steve> chull define "can't find"
[09:31] <chull> q_a_z_steve: um it doesn't find the main .xchat2 directory, no files found.
[09:31] <ajitam> q_a_z_steve: yea but all I have is --color=auto and I don't know what I can type instead of "auto"
[09:31] <AbhiJit> i locked stickynotes and force quit applet on panel. but still they always change their positions
[09:31] <AbhiJit> :'(
[09:32] <q_a_z_steve> ajitam that's nothing to do with what I am saying
[09:32] <chull> q_a_z_steve: is there a way to search my old drive using command line, besides using file browser (which can't find .xchat2)
[09:32] <q_a_z_steve> chull you have xchat installed? and you are looking where?
[09:33] <chull> q_a_z_steve: i never used file browser, just command line, $ cd .xchat2
[09:33] <q_a_z_steve> .xchat2 sounds like it would be a log folder or something, have you looked in your home dir?
[09:33] <rusty149> chull: mount the drive and use ls -a
[09:34] <IdleOne> chull: cd ~/.xchat2
[09:34] <tasse> or not loading is possible wrong, it trys to load, but it won't succeed q_a_z_steve :/ its always a white page and its tryin to load
[09:34] <chull> q_a_z_steve: i was, yes
[09:34] <IdleOne> chull: err sorry
[09:34] <rusty149> chull: if you have cd in to it then just, ls -a  ,  -a is all and includes .
[09:34] <chull> IdleOne: accessing it from a different drive
[09:34] <elkng> I want to boot from flash drive, and want to save battery power,is it possible to power entirely off or something harddrive?
[09:34] <q_a_z_steve> tasse can you browse for www.purple.com ?
[09:35] <chull> how do i cd <other hard drive>
[09:35] <q_a_z_steve> !error | elkng
[09:35] <tasse> yes :p i can view most pages
[09:35] <tasse> but some don't load
[09:35] <q_a_z_steve> chull mount it, then cd to that dir
[09:36] <chull> !mount
[09:36] <q_a_z_steve> tasse is there something special about these wolfram or others, like flash or other extensions?
[09:36] <IdleOne> chull: first in terminal type: mount
[09:37] <tasse> hm i don't know - but don#t think so
[09:37] <q_a_z_steve> IdleOne taking a shift I see
[09:37] <IdleOne> chull: do you see the other hdd mounted?
[09:37] <IdleOne> q_a_z_steve: just happened to look over :)
[09:37] <tasse> got the same problem if i try to download sth from a dropbox account
[09:37] <chull> IdleOne: moment have to go in the other room
[09:37] <elkng> is it possible to turnoff harddrive having worked system, I dont want to use harddrive, I want stop it whilling entirely, or park it.
[09:37] <q_a_z_steve> IdleOne hey, stick around, make sure I don't screw anyone up. More the merrier
[09:38] <q_a_z_steve> elkng are you in gnome?
[09:38] <insmod> ejv: you the one with the one with the iwl3945?
[09:39] <elkng> q_a_z_steve: is it matter?
[09:39] <rusty149> elkng: not really, just umiunt drive
[09:39] <rusty149> elkng: * umount
[09:40] <q_a_z_steve> elkng I was going to suggest power options, but try ^^
[09:40] <vampirnata> Anyone else have any ideas on my ssh problem? I am currently at work and I am trying to connect to my home ubuntu server via ssh. I've set up port forwarding on my router to forward any request on port 22 to the local ip of the server. I've set up sshd on the server and it works locally (i.e. i can connect to it from a local windows machine).
[09:41] <rusty149> elkng: OK, is there actually a problem with the drive, then q_a_z_steve is write about spin down drive but if you just don;t want to use it then umount
[09:41] <q_a_z_steve> vampirnata sure you don't mean local IP of the computer?
[09:42] <vampirnata> steve: eh?
[09:42] <q_a_z_steve> vampirnata nevermind, read that wrong
[09:42] <elkng> rusty149: spin down?
[09:42] <vampirnata> :)
[09:42] <chull> IdleOne, q_a_z_steve http://chalcedony.pastebin.com/ajfeDu9K
[09:42] <killown> wtf is happening with ubuntu ? compiz doesn't work anymore after update and I can't get flash video in fullscreen mode because it crash, nautilus has a lot bugs, man wtf
[09:42] <vampirnata> I have an unfortunate way of writing cryptically  :/
[09:42] <chull> killown: which ubuntu?
[09:43] <q_a_z_steve> killown what were you running before? Same system?
[09:43] <killown> chull 10.10
[09:43] <IdleOne> chull: cd /media/d3f006f1-3d31-4d89-9ef6-663c89f35443
[09:43] <chull> IdleOne: thanks :)
[09:43] <IdleOne> chull: then you can do ls and navigate to ~/.xchat2 on that drive
[09:43] <q_a_z_steve> thank god for tab complete, chull
[09:43] <CERNUNN0S> Greetings, has anyone had any experience using virtual box to set up an Ubuntu 10.04 LTS cluster for local testing?
[09:44] <rusty149_> elkng: power option to reduce drive access and thus 'spin less'
[09:44] <Mass> Trying to install ubuntu on an external hd. Can i safely do this from my imac without changing anything to my imac?
[09:44] <q_a_z_steve> CERNUNN0S I use vbox, but haven't done a cluster
[09:44] <rusty149_> Mass: Sure
[09:45] <chull> IdleOne: how can i move the directory in command line?
[09:45] <rusty149_> Mass: but on Mac it should be a firewire drive not USB
[09:45] <Mikhle> ïðèâåò âñåì
[09:45] <psycho_oreos> chull, mv dir1/ another/dir/
[09:45] <tasse> no clue q_a_z_steve ? :/
[09:45] <q_a_z_steve> Mass would recommend going through the process on www.ubuntu.com. the one for "USB stick"
[09:45] <IdleOne> chull: mv /source/of/file/ /destination/of/file/
[09:45] <q_a_z_steve> rusty149_ ???
[09:46] <psycho_oreos> !ru| Mikhle
[09:46] <moonraker> chull: type man mv which gives u the help info document
[09:46] <rusty149_> q_a_z_steve what?
[09:46] <q_a_z_steve> imac have USB too... isn't your comment rather assumptive?
[09:46] <CERNUNN0S> q_a_z_steve: The problem i'm having is getting the internal network and the NAT to work at the same time. On theere own they are fine. But when both are running I can ping the first machine from the host machine but the guest machine no longer connects to the internet
[09:47] <q_a_z_steve> tasse remind me what I said, couldn't find the scrollback
[09:47] <killown> q_a_z_steve I just did apt-get update; apt-get upgrade
[09:47] <Mass> q_a_z_steve i tried the usb version but somehow it won't boot. Using the cd now to boot and install from
[09:47] <killown> after that compiz stop to work
[09:47] <a13x> hello
 tasse is there something special about these wolfram or others, like flash or other extensions? <- and i said no, not really ;)
[09:47] <killown> and flash can't get fullscreen mode
[09:48] <oopepe> Hi, how do i see what version of tomcat6 i have installed? And how do i install an older version of tomcat6 in the console?
[09:48] <IdleOne> oopepe: apt-cache policy tomcat6
[09:48] <q_a_z_steve> killown have to look and see which package botched it. try --fix-broken ?
[09:49] <q_a_z_steve> tasse hmm, tried a different browser?
[09:49] <tasse> yep, tried chromium/opera/firefox
[09:49] <tasse> same result
[09:49] <q_a_z_steve> mass have to make the drive bootable
[09:49] <a13x> I need some advice on installing ubuntu partition over password protected windows (and how I can then remove windows partition)
[09:49] <kyo> firefox is the best
[09:50] <q_a_z_steve> a13x ubuntu will wipe the drive. good enough?
[09:50] <rusty149_> a13x: If you are referring to standard password login then it is irrelevant
[09:50] <q_a_z_steve> tasse you can ping these sites?
[09:50] <tasse> yep
[09:50] <Mass> q_a_z_steve allright! now I only have to format the external drive and install ubuntu =) I guess the boot loader deice should be the external drive. right?
[09:50] <q_a_z_steve> give me links and ips
[09:50] <rusty149_> a13x: i.e to remove windows and install Ubuntu, just install as per normal
[09:50] <oopepe> IdleOne: thank you
[09:50] <q_a_z_steve> YES, the same drive
[09:51] <IdleOne> oopepe: welcome
[09:51] <q_a_z_steve> Mass ^^
[09:51] <Mass> q_a_z_steve thanks!
[09:51] <_vaibhav_> how I can remove older kernels from my system?? am having previous 3 versions.. 32.21, 22, 24 and 25.. can I remove them safely??
[09:52] <IdleOne> _vaibhav_: search for them in Synaptic package manager and yes you can safely remove them.
[09:52] <tasse> <IP_ADDRESS> (wolframalpha.com) @ q_a_z_steve
[09:52] <q_a_z_steve> _vaibhav_ you are probably also talking about getting rid of the references in grub no?
[09:52] <IdleOne> q_a_z_steve: when you uninstall from synaptic it will also update grub
[09:53] <q_a_z_steve> ooh See!?
[09:53] <_vaibhav_> IdleOne: thaks a lot.. :) I 'll do it from synaptic..
[09:57] <chull> IdleOne: with a name like that.. what would the destination file be called like?
[09:58] <chull> IdleOne: i found .xchat2 :)
[09:58] <almoxarife> how do I deb-ify a bunch of files included with a install script?
[09:58] <almoxarife> or how would I at least keep track of an install not done via .deb?
[09:59] <q_a_z_steve> tasse only thing I see off the top in [inspect element] is javascript, do other javascript pages load okay for you?
[09:59] <Dannnnnn> Hi guys, could someone help me? I have installed a game called Enemy Territory, but can't seem to get sound working. I've tried the methods listed on Wiki.ubuntu, nothing seems to work. I tried installing OSS and it made my computer screech really loud... could someone help me? Thank you
[09:59] <IdleOne> chull: /home/llhull/.xchat2 would be the destination
[09:59] <chull> almoxarife: open/unzip/unpack the archive in it's own directory
[09:59] <q_a_z_steve> !sound > Dannnnnn
[10:00] <almoxarife> chull: no, can't do, it needs to add files into other areas
[10:00] <chull> IdleOne: gee that would be ..just like it was
[10:00] <chull> IdleOne: thank you :)
[10:00] <IdleOne> chull: welcome. glad to help
[10:01] <Dannnnnn> That's not the problem, I have sound within everything else, including other games...
[10:01] <q_a_z_steve> a13x please keep communication in channel
[10:02] <ksinkar> how do i run binary files on ubuntu?
[10:02] <ksinkar> if i do sudo ./binary_file it says no such command
[10:02] <tasse> hm do you have a page where i can test it q_a_z_steve
[10:02] <a13x> sorry
[10:02] <rusty149_> ksinkar: cd to the directory
[10:02] <q_a_z_steve> Dannnnnn kudos for that. Better off than me atm but that seems like a developer of the game sort of issue, this isn't WINE I assume?
[10:03] <rusty149_> ksinkar: and mark it as executable, with sudo chmod +x ./binary_file
[10:03] <Poshe> excuse me, I'm trying to set up an ad hoc network, I'm on ubuntu 10.04. I've made the network and everything but I don't seem to be able to start my wireless without actually disconnecting my "etho" connection? How can I turn this network on?
[10:03] <Dannnnnn> Nope not using WINE, it installed fine, and games running off of the same engine seem to work fine. I know there is a way with OSS4, but it didn't work with my laptop for some reason.
[10:04] <q_a_z_steve> a13x iirc you are installing over top of it, Ubuntu will reformat by default, so it will become ext3 or ext4.
[10:04] <q_a_z_steve> Poshe you are trying to share your internet to others around?
[10:05] <sacarlson> Poshe: I think network-manager has a share conection mode, are you on desktop?
[10:05] <Poshe> q_a_z_steve: Yes I am trying to share my internet.
[10:06] <Poshe> sacarlson: I'm on a laptop though. Can't seem to be able to turn the wireless on.
[10:06] <Dannnnnn> Sorry, offtopic, how can I view what version (64, 32bit etc..) of ubuntu ?
[10:06] <Dannnnnn> I'm using
[10:06] <jrib> Dannnnnn: uname -m
[10:06] <Dannnnnn> ty
[10:06] <Dannnnnn> i686, I guess 32Bit?
[10:06] <jrib> Dannnnnn: yes
[10:06] <moonraker> Poshe: Have u downloaded the extra propertiary drivers from the panel?
[10:06] <Poshe> moonraker: what's that?
[10:07] <sacarlson> Poshe: are you haveing problems on the sharing side or the client side?  what are you sharing with?
[10:07] <q_a_z_steve> !network > Poshe these could help too.
[10:08] <moonraker> On on laptop on the top panel I have an icon (green) with propmpted me to download wireless drivers for my card (broadcom device)
[10:08] <Poshe> sacarlson: I can't turn the wireless on without turning the etho off. So effectively I'll be without internet if I wanted to create an ad hoc.
[10:08] <faLUCE> hi. Do you know if ubuntu works with a Zotac GeForce 9300-ITX-I-E?
[10:08] <rusty149_> Poshe: Turn eth0 off and establish wireless internet. Then set eth0 to share with others and turn on
[10:09] <Dannnnnn> :), ty, and when downloading Open Source Sound 4 (0SS4) I have a choice to download the package file. Which one shall I choose for my OS? I'm using Ubuntu 10, latest install. Linux 2.6 (RPM), LINUX 2.6 (DEB), LINUX 2.6 (TAR)... I did the Deb package last time, as I seen Ubuntu = Debian?
[10:09] <q_a_z_steve> moonraker tell her the more static way of finding it. System > Administration > Additional Drivers isn't it?
[10:09] <jrib> Dannnnnn: why not just use what ubuntu comes with?
[10:09] <chrislabeard_> Anyone ever used avahi to broadcast afpd ?
[10:09] <Dannnnnn> Jrib: I get no sound in my game (enemy territory)
[10:09] <chrislabeard_> For some reason my mac can't see my serveri in the shared list
[10:09] <chrislabeard_> server **
[10:10] <jrib> Dannnnnn: what have you done to troubleshoot that?
[10:10] <tasse> ok tried one and it works q_a_z_steve
[10:10] <IdleOne> Dannnnnn: sudo apt-get install oss4-gtk
[10:10] <q_a_z_steve> Dannnnnn Ubuntu != Debian, debian based, but <> Debian
[10:10] <q_a_z_steve> !anyone chrislabeard_
[10:10] <q_a_z_steve> !anyone | chrislabeard_
[10:10] <chrislabeard_> q_a_z_steve: I'm sorry?
[10:10] <Dannnnnn> jrib: I did evrything here- https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EnemyTerritory
[10:11] <q_a_z_steve> wow it has it's own page. I better check this game out
[10:11] <sacarlson> Poshe: I don't have network-manager installed on a 10.04 system so I can't see what you see,  but I'm booting a 10.10 version that I beleave has share internet.  I've never used it so I"m going to just take a peak
[10:12] <Dannnnnn> Enemy Territory has a very active community:) - www.crossfire.nu for the place where everyone who plays the game talks / news etc... :), but GL getting it to work :D.
[10:12] <DeadPanda> Is there any way I can force NetworkManager to show in my notification area?  I'm using ethernet, with no wireless card, so it isn't showing; but that means I can't see my VPN connections
[10:12] <q_a_z_steve> tasse I haven't forgotten about you. I'm just at a loss as to a "testing my connectivity/testing my browser's balls" site.
[10:12] <chull> IdleOne: i have real problems with file structures (learning disability) http://chalcedony.pastebin.com/ZPnAfUaG
[10:13] <vampirnata> I am currently at work and I am trying to connect to my home ubuntu server via ssh. I've set up port forwarding on my router to forward any request on port 22 to the local ip of the server. I've set up sshd on the server and it works locally (i.e. i can connect to it from a local windows machine). Anyone have any ideas?
[10:13] <Poshe> sacarlson: ahh. Alright thanks. I'm on 10.04 but I think I might need to physically turn my wireless on when I restart my laptop for it to actually work.
[10:13] <Poshe> I'll give it a try anyway.
[10:13] <q_a_z_steve> vampirnata sorry. Can you ping the router from here?
[10:13] <jrib> vampirnata: you can't actually verify at this point that « ssh localhost » on the server works, right?
[10:14] <jrib> vampirnata: or are you able to remotely connect to the windows machine somehow and then ssh to the server?  Is that what you are saying?
[10:14] <ox3a> I changed the boot screen but it display only when rebooting the live cd and not displaying for startup screen...... please help
[10:14] <vampirnata> yes
[10:14] <jrib> !who | vampirnata
[10:14] <vampirnata> i am connected to a windows host at home
[10:14] <q_a_z_steve> Dannnnnn as I said, you have sound. I need to get my speakers working first
[10:14] <sacarlson> Poshe: ok ya if it can't connect to a normal access point I think you might be geting ahead of yourself
[10:14] <vampirnata> ubottu: sorry will do.
[10:15] <vampirnata> steve: i can't ping the router
[10:15] <Dannnnnn> Lucky you :), trying SDL sound fixes now :(, again lol
[10:15] <vampirnata> jrib: yes i am connect to a windows host at home
[10:15] <vampirnata> connected*
[10:16] <q_a_z_steve> vampirnata did you turn off ICMP? anyway firewall on Ubuntu?
[10:16] <DeadPanda> Force NetworkManager to display in the notification area, anyone? (the notification area is definitely on the taskbar)
[10:16] <vampirnata> also running this: nmap -sV -p 22 -sT -sU public.ip from the server at home, it says that port 22 is open on udp and closed on tcp. is this correct?
[10:17] <q_a_z_steve> !patience > DeadPanda
[10:17] <vampirnata> q_a_z_steve: no firewall on ubuntu enabled
[10:17] <DeadPanda> q_a_z_steve, that was hardly spam; it was probably lost in everyone's scrollback, but fair enough.
[10:17] <ceders> I found my problem, udevd is hogging 60% of CPU. killall udevd should fix it, but I'm still waiting for terminal to open.
[10:17] <q_a_z_steve> vampirnata how are you connected to that windows box? 3389?
[10:18] <vampirnata> q_a_z_steve: logmein :)
[10:18] <tasse> np q_a_z_steve
[10:18] <vampirnata> q_a_z_steve: and then using ssh on the windows host to connect to the local ubuntu server
[10:19] <q_a_z_steve> DeadPanda you're fine, try this.
[10:19] <q_a_z_steve> !panels
[10:19] <Dannnnnn> Tried sdl-sound fixes... none seem to work :(....
[10:19] <Dannnnnn> ------- sound initialization ------- /dev/adsp: No such file or directory Could not open /dev/adsp
[10:20] <q_a_z_steve> tasse google for the right address to #firefox on moznet.org maybe?
[10:20] <q_a_z_steve> tasse sounds like they could maybe help
[10:20] <tasse> ok i'll try, thanks a lot
[10:20] <q_a_z_steve> there could actually be #chromium on freenode
[10:20] <q_a_z_steve> vampirnata that's one way.
[10:21] <vampirnata> q_a_z_steve: yes but not very optimum, and it's slow obviously
[10:22] <q_a_z_steve> kind of depends what you need to get done...
[10:23] <vampirnata> q_a_z_steve: also I know that port forwarding works on my router because i have it forwarding torrent traffic to my windows host
[10:23] <vampirnata> q_a_z_steve: and that works
[10:23] <q_a_z_steve> if you can't ping your router then there could be plenty of things gumming this up. logmein is a cheat
[10:23] <RaidSoft> Anyone that could tell me if there there is any remote desktop server software for ubuntu that works together with windows built in remote desktop viewer?
[10:23] <vampirnata> RaidSoft: vnc
[10:23] <RaidSoft> that requires a separate program doesn't it?
[10:24] <RaidSoft> I want to be able to connect to a ubuntu server with a windows computer without having to install anything
[10:24] <q_a_z_steve> RaidSoft different protocols altogether between the two
[10:24] <RaidSoft> so not gonna happen then
[10:24] <vampirnata> raidsoft: ahh, sorry. didn't read that you wanted to use rdp
[10:25] <q_a_z_steve> RaidSoft you could look and see if setting connect to 5900 port would do anything in the latest RDP client
[10:25] <vampirnata> RaidSoft: google rdesktop
[10:25] <q_a_z_steve> RaidSoft or change your vnc port to 3389
[10:26] <RaidSoft> basically I have a server computer I want to get ubuntu on, but one that needs remote access can not install anything on a windows computer so can only use the built in remote desktop in windows..
[10:26] <vampirnata> RaidSoft: you will still have to enable RDP connections on the Windows host
[10:26] <RaidSoft> the windows computer is the client, the ubuntu would be the server
[10:26] <chull> anyone, i can't get this copying to work between my two hard drives: http://chalcedony.pastebin.com/ZPnAfUaG
[10:26] <vampirnata> RaidSoft: then you can use something like rDesktop to connect
[10:27] <jrib> RaidSoft: you could just ssh and use putty
[10:27] <RaidSoft> will most likely need a gui
[10:27] <jrib> RaidSoft: why?
[10:27] <vampirnata> RaidSoft: do you want to connect to the Windows host or the Linux host?
[10:27] <RaidSoft> because the person that would be connecting doesn't really know linux much
[10:28] <jrib> RaidSoft: ok
[10:28] <RaidSoft> from a windows computer, to a ubuntu server, so the host is the ubuntu
[10:28] <vampirnata> hey jrib, did you forget about me? or just run out of ideas?
[10:28] <q_a_z_steve> RaidSoft there are ways of vnc over web browser
[10:28] <jrib> vampirnata: from what you described it has to be a router issue, don't know what else to suggest
[10:28] <RaidSoft> hmm oh yeah forgot about that
[10:28] <Eagle> vampirnata:  just run out of ideas.
[10:29] <RaidSoft> that uses java right?
[10:29] <ox3a> where the boot splash is exist?
[10:29] <vampirnata> sigh, this is frustrating
[10:29] <q_a_z_steve> ox3a http://www.owlriver.com/tips/hands-off/images.html
[10:29] <q_a_z_steve> vampirnata what kind of router?
[10:30] <vampirnata> is there a setting to check in sshd_config that allows/disables connections from public ips?
[10:30] <vampirnata> q_a_z_steve: Zyxel Prestige 662HW
[10:30] <jrib> vampirnata: by default that wouldn't be an issue
[10:30] <ox3a> q_a_z_steve, In ubuntu 10.10
[10:30] <ox3a> q_a_z_steve, Trying to change the boot splash
[10:31] <jrib> vampirnata: and it's timing out for you anyway, right?
[10:31] <q_a_z_steve> vampirnata ok, not familiar. That sounds like an /etc/hosts issue but I don't think you're there yet
[10:31] <Neikius> hello, a short question regarding dovecot - what would be the best way to install dovecot 2.0 in ubuntu (10.4)?
[10:31] <ox3a> q_a_z_steve, http://decoding.files.wordpress.com/2007/04/boot-screen.jpg
[10:31] <vampirnata> jrib: thing is even when I disable the router firewall, i can't connect to ssh (but i can ping the router's public ip)
[10:31] <jrib> vampirnata: but you still need to have the port correctly forwarded
[10:31] <q_a_z_steve> !best Neikius
[10:32] <q_a_z_steve> !best | Neikius
[10:32] <q_a_z_steve> Neikius: synaptic, apt, aptitude, dpkg, tarballs
[10:33] <vampirnata> jrib: i have two sections in my router config. one is NAT port forwarding: there I only have to select which port and the destination. second is the firewall rule to allow incoming requests on port 22 to ip of the server. both of those are set
[10:33] <q_a_z_steve> jrib help me out here, is ox3a not talking about the "grub" splash?
[10:33] <HugoGF> My sound jack isn't putting sound through my headphones, it just comes out of the computer's speakers. Could someone help me please?
[10:33] <vampirnata> jrib: and to answer your earlier question, yes it's timing out.
[10:34] <jrib> q_a_z_steve: plymouth would be my guess
[10:34] <jrib> q_a_z_steve: or usplash if he's on an older version of ubuntu
[10:34] <q_a_z_steve> HugoGF that's the exact opposite for me.
[10:34] <Neikius> q_a_z_steve: and where to find dovecot 2?
[10:34] <q_a_z_steve> !sound > HugoGF seen these?
[10:35] <ox3a> jrib, I edited that but still one problem
[10:35] <q_a_z_steve> !packages > Neikius
[10:35] <HugoGF> q_a_z_steve I've already messed around with my sound preferences but that doesn't seem to do it.
[10:35] <ox3a> jrib, I am with 10.10
[10:35] <jrib> ox3a: iirc you should just use update-alternatives
[10:36] <Eagle> q_a_z_steve:   HugoGF:  Make sure its pluged in properly, or get drivers for them.
[10:36] <ne2k> q_a_z_steve: the packaged version of dovecot is 1.2.12, he said he wants v2
[10:36] <q_a_z_steve> HugoGF try those links
[10:36] <HugoGF> q_a_z_steve: It's the output through my headphones that isn't working, and I don't know where to find the drivers.. I've tried those links. Also, my input sound doesn't work.
[10:37] <ox3a> jrib, Yeah i did that also and then burned it to cd for test purpose but it just display when shut down
[10:37] <HugoGF> Eagle: I don't know where to find the drivers.
[10:37] <q_a_z_steve> HugoGFwhat hardware?
[10:37] <jrib> ox3a: you ran update-initramfs -u after?
[10:37] <ne2k> Neikius: suggest you read this: http://wiki2.dovecot.org/PrebuiltBinaries
[10:37] <ox3a> jrib, yeah
[10:37] <q_a_z_steve> HugoGF what hardware? Typing fail.
[10:37] <vampirnata> jrib: could it be something to do with iptables on the ubuntu server? or does that only apply if a firewall is running on the server?
[10:38] <jrib> vampirnata: there are no rules set by default, check with sudo iptables -L
[10:38] <vampirnata> jrib: that is correct, nothing is set
[10:38] <q_a_z_steve> !nick > gbi
[10:38] <HugoGF> q_a_z_steve: My computers speakers? In a console command that I entered before( I can't remember what it was) it said that they were connexant
[10:38] <ne2k> !nick | ne2k
[10:39] <jrib> ox3a: well that's the correct procedure I've used in the past, I don't know about any of the details to help you understand why it doesn't display during boot.  Does it work on your install?  Maybe it's something special about the live cd setup
[10:39] <puppy> how to recover lost password
[10:39] <q_a_z_steve> ne2k which is the trigger for "don't do that stuff in a busy channel?"
[10:39] <jrib> puppy: for ubuntu?
[10:39] <puppy> for linux mint
[10:39] <q_a_z_steve> HugoGF aplay probably
[10:39] <jrib> !password | puppy
[10:40] <bazhang> !mintsupport > puppy
[10:40] <q_a_z_steve> !mint
[10:40] <HugoGF> q_a_z_steve: So what should I do about it?
[10:40] <puppy> but i did nothing and remember the password but it says authentification failed!
[10:40] <q_a_z_steve> which version, have you tried OSS? ALSA may not cover you
[10:41] <ox3a> jrib, i also got warning error when update-initramfs -u
[10:41] <q_a_z_steve> !error | puppy
[10:42] <puppy> I was using it and did some package installation and then I log out.Ann I could not login again
[10:42] <jrib> ox3a: don't make us guess the error :)
[10:42] <Eagle> Ah, How do you PM in Empathy????? :)
[10:42] <bazhang> puppy, mint is not supported here
[10:42] <q_a_z_steve> puppy why did you log out?
[10:42] <ox3a> jrib, cryptsetup: WARNING: could not determine root device from /etc/fstab
[10:42] <stanman246> puppy: check this, it may help http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/resetpassword
[10:42] <q_a_z_steve> Eagle on the buddy list go to new conversation
[10:42] <HugoGF> q_a_z_steve: So what should I do about my speakers? I really need to be able to use my headphones.
[10:43] <puppy> coz when I tried to install further packages it ask password and I gave it but says wrong!
[10:43] <Eagle> q_a_z_steve: ya and then?
[10:43] <q_a_z_steve> HugoGF see my comments from 03:40:50
[10:44] <q_a_z_steve> Eagle type the name of the user...
[10:44] <HugoGF> q_a_z_steve: I don't have any time increments next to what anyone says..
[10:44] <ox3a> jrib, May it be any problem the warning?
[10:44] <jrib> puppy: if you're using mint, we can't help you here. We don't know about mint.  They can better help you at #linuxmint-help on irc.spotchat.org.  You should also take a look at what ubottu sent you anyway.
[10:44] <jrib> ox3a: probably not, I don't know
[10:44] <amit> i am a engg student,want to make a minor project on linux/unix.plz give some suggestions
[10:44] <q_a_z_steve> right after you asked me the first time ...03:40:16 AM] <HugoGF> q_a_z_steve: So what should I do about it?
[10:44] <Eagle>
[10:44] <Eagle> q_a_z_steve:   Oooooooooh Right.... Thanks
[10:44] <HugoGF> q_a_z_steve:Thanks.
[10:45] <amit> give some suggestion for minor project on linux and topic also
[10:45] <q_a_z_steve> puppy you logged out because synaptic or whatever didn't accept the password you were giving?
[10:45] <puppy> stanman246: i will try it later and now I need to go for my duty.thank u very much.
[10:45] <q_a_z_steve> !sudoers
[10:45] <puppy> yes qaz
[10:46] <HugoGF> q_a_z_steve: I see, could you please tell me how I can use OSS?
[10:46] <Eagle> amit: Well if you want to, you should.
[10:46] <q_a_z_steve> puppy your user may not be in the sudoers list.  Good to see you
[10:48] <r00t4rd3d> hey tattly tail , err q_a_z_steve
[10:48] <Eagle> amit: What should I suggest to you?
[10:49] <skpl> can someone help me with transparency in metacity?
[10:49] <q_a_z_steve> r00t4rd3d ...
[10:49] <skpl> i've enabled compositing but it still doesnt work
[10:49] <q_a_z_steve> !ask
[10:51] <molded> I am having a problem maintaining the session after authenticating with Auth and then doing a redirect.  In the core, security level is set to 'high'.
[10:51] <molded> anyone dealt with this problem before?
[10:52] <q_a_z_steve> !error > molded
[10:52] <HugoGF> q_a_z_steve: okay, I installed OSS but the same thing happens.
[10:52] <HugoGF> q_a_z_steve: My speakers work, but when the headphones get plugged in the sound still goes through the computer.
[10:52] <ox3a> so none can help me please?
[10:53] <Eagle> ox3a: What do you need help one?
[10:53] <q_a_z_steve> ox3a where are we now?
[10:53] <skpl> cans omeone tell me how to enable transparency in metacity?
[10:53] <Nom-> tp[oc
[10:53] <Nom-> oops
[10:54] <q_a_z_steve> !patience > skpl
[10:54] <ox3a> Eagle, I am asking same question since several days
[10:54] <ox3a> Eagle, Editing boot screen as i am remastering Ubuntu 10.10
[10:54] <q_a_z_steve> HugoGF You said you've messed with the different profiles and that, have you done that since OSS also?
[10:54] <kwtm> How can I get Flash 10 installed in Ubuntu Lucid? I did "sudo apt-get install adobe-flashplugin", but when I send Firefox to "http://www.codegeek.net/flash-version.php", it still says "You have Flash player 9.0.31 installed."
[10:54] <r00t4rd3d> ox3a, ive told you
[10:55] <archer> testing
[10:55] <ox3a> r00t4rd3d, plymouth?
[10:55] <q_a_z_steve> ox3a r00t4rd3d http://www.owlriver.com/tips/hands-off/images.html are we sure this doesn't apply. i.e. ox3a did you even look?
[10:56] <r00t4rd3d> ox3a, ok , ready ?
[10:56] <r00t4rd3d> ox3a, http://zorin-os.webs.com/splashscreenmanager.htm
[10:56] <anternat> hello, is this command correct to check whether php is installed on my server or not? --> aptitude show php5 | grep -i installed
[10:56] <archer> TESTING!
[10:56] <q_a_z_steve> kwtm dpkg -l
[10:56] <kwtm> HugoGF: Hi. Just caught your last comment. When you plug in earphones, sound still comes out speaker?  Is this a hardware problem?  Does the problem exist under Windows (if you have dual-boot installed)?
[10:56] <llutz_> anternat: apt-cache policy php5
[10:57] <Nom-> This might be a little off topic, but here goes...  Does anyone know of a good open source device database that integrates well with Nagios?  Looking at around 3500 devices (routers, switches, servers, etc)
[10:57] <HugoGF> q_a_z_steve: Yes, I have messed around the preferences, nothing works. But I may have found something about it.
[10:57] <kwtm> q_a_z_steve: Thanks, will try.  Is that capital i or lower-case L?
[10:57] <Eagle> archer: ????
[10:57] <q_a_z_steve> archer IT WORKS!
[10:57] <q_a_z_steve> r00t4rd3d even better
[10:57] <llutz_> anternat: dpkg -l php5        lots of ways to check
[10:57] <archer> thanks
[10:57] <HugoGF> kwtm: Yes, sound still comes out of the speaker when I plug in headphones. I don't think that it's a hardware problem because it works in Windows. Yes, I have a dual boot installation.
[10:58] <Eagle> archer: What are you testing????
[10:58] <q_a_z_steve> I've just gotten both of these tonight btw
[10:58] <kwtm> q_a_z_steve: I think you want me to do "dpkg -I adobe-flashplugin"?   So it is under software control. Do you think it's a driver problem for the sound card?  (ie. your sound card needs a special driver found only under Windows?)
[10:58] <anternat> llutz i tried to install manually lamp on 9.04 but those commands say php5 isnt installed altho i can see the it works page
[10:58] <ne2k> HugoGF: have you tried experimenting with the different outputs in the sound preferences?
[10:59] <r00t4rd3d> kwtm, just goto a page that requires flash and firefox will dialog you....
[10:59] <HugoGF> ne2k: Okay, well I'm going to install something (I just found some stuff on the forums about my specific computer and sound problems.
[10:59] <HugoGF> ne2k: I have tried different outputs.
[10:59] <llutz_> anternat: apache uses libapache2-mod-php5
[10:59] <ne2k> HugoGF: I'm talking about the "connector" setting in sound preferences->output
[10:59] <kwtm> r00t4rd3d: No, that hasn't worked in a while now (for the 9 months or so).  I go to most Flash test pages, and Firefox says, "Adobe Flash plugin has crashed".
[10:59] <HugoGF> kwtm: Yeah, I think I need a special driver.
[11:00] <anternat> llutz so thats normal to have that msg that php5 isnt installed,right?
[11:00] <rusty149_> kwtm: is it a 64-bit machine?
[11:00] <llutz_> anternat: "php5" is just a meta-package, so it should be fine
[11:00] <kwtm> r00t4rd3d: Haven't been able to do Internet banking because of this.
[11:00] <ne2k> kwtm: you have a bank that requires FLASH? man, get out of there QUICKLY!
[11:00] <bonjoyee> kwtm: download the libflashplayer.so from adobe and paste in /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins
[11:00] <kwtm> rusty149_: No, I've always used 32-bit.  THis is a Dell Inspiron that came with Ubuntu.
[11:00] <anternat> llutz: last thing can i do something to test with php commands from command line?
[11:01] <llutz_> anternat: sorry no idea about php at all
[11:01] <kwtm> ne2k: Thanks for the comment.  I know of the recommendations, etc, but there is a specific reason I need this bank, so I do appreciate any help in getting flash working for this and other reasons.
[11:01] <HugoGF> How would i open /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf through terminal?
[11:01] <anternat> ty llutz, i appreciate yr help
[11:01] <Eagle> llutz: Can I PM you?   :)
[11:01] <vampirnata> OH MY Swearword
[11:01] <llutz_> Eagle: nope
[11:01] <ne2k> kwtm: why do you specifically need flash 10?
[11:01] <vampirnata> fixed my ssh problem
[11:02] <Eagle> llutz_: Why?
[11:02] <kwtm> bonjoyee: Oh, I see, so you think that would be better than doing automated from Ubuntu?  I think getting it manually is what I did before, but that was half a year ago, so I'm not sure if that's the last thing I did.
[11:02] <llutz_> Eagle: keep it here in the channel, i don't do personal support
[11:02] <bonjoyee> kwtm: this method has never let me down!
[11:02] <vampirnata> the head of our IT is a complete idiot. he's recently installed a new firewall for the firm and decided in his infinite wisdom to block everything except port 80 (even outgoing!!!!!)
[11:03] <q_a_z_steve1> bonjoyee !
[11:03] <Eagle> llutz_:    :'(
[11:03] <ne2k> vampirnata: it is a good policy to block everything you don't need
[11:03] <bonjoyee> kwtm: but make sure you remove other versions from synaptic!
[11:03] <q_a_z_steve1> vampirnata That would be why
[11:03] <HugoGF> ne2k: I don't have that setting..?
[11:03] <bonjoyee> q_a_z_steve1: ?
[11:03] <kwtm> ne2k: I actually want to fix the problem where Firefox says "the flash plugin has crashed"; I believe Flash 10 will solve this but am not sure.  Also because YouTube says "This video will only display in a more current version of flash".
[11:03] <ne2k> vampirnata: however, port 80 only seems a little overly restrictive
[11:03] <faLUCE> hi. Do you know if ubuntu well works with a Zotac GeForce 9300-ITX-I-E?
[11:03] <ne2k> kwtm: which version of ubuntu?
[11:03] <q_a_z_steve1> bonjoyee Just saying hello
[11:04] <vampirnata> it completely overly restrictive
[11:04] <bonjoyee> q_a_z_steve1: yeah..hows you:)
[11:04] <ne2k> kwtm: I have maverick and installed flashplugin-installer, which gives <IP_ADDRESS>
[11:04] <kwtm> bonjoyee: Ah, maybe last time I didn't remove other versions?
[11:04] <ne2k> kwtm: and I use google chrome as the web browser
[11:04] <vampirnata> and come on, if you want to be that way fine, but at least unblock it for your IT staff
[11:04] <Eagle> faLUCE: Ya It Dose.
[11:04] <q_a_z_steve> something just totally bombed my network, but hey
[11:04] <bonjoyee> kwtm: could be,,
[11:04] <llutz_> vampirnata: if theres no need for employees to use things beside 443/80, its ok
[11:04] <HugoGF> Can someone tell me how to open a file in the /etc folder?
[11:04] <kwtm> ne2k: Lucid (10.04)
[11:04] <ox3a> q_a_z_steve, yeah but /etc/grub.conf does not exist
[11:05] <vampirnata> ne2k: i agree, but we need ssh to access our firm's ftp server so that we can create new accounts
[11:05] <kwtm> ne2k: Okay, so your setup works but you are using Chrome, not Firefox, and you are using Maverick, not Lucid, then.
[11:05] <bonjoyee> kwtm: im using flash 64bit (square preview3 currently)
[11:05] <faLUCE> Eagle: how can you be sure?
[11:05] <Eagle> HugoGF: Click the folder twice?
[11:05] <q_a_z_steve> ox3a You've gotten the best answer from that zorin page, the best I could give you for sure
[11:05] <vampirnata> ne2k: but he's off for the weekend and tbh he's just so moronic, it doesn't matter if we need something or not, he'll do the opposite
[11:06] <kwtm> I'm going to switch to wireless so there may be a glitch in my typing...
[11:06] <HugoGF> Eagle: I mean, through terminal, I need to edit a file in that folder and add something
[11:06] <ox3a> q_a_z_steve, Is it gui?
[11:06] <llutz_> HugoGF: sudo nano /etc/path/file
[11:06] <q_a_z_steve> ox3a have you seen the link???
[11:06] <r00t4rd3d> kwtm, have you tried reinstalling firefox ?
[11:06] <ox3a> q_a_z_steve, yeah
[11:06] <vampirnata> llutz_: as I said to ne2k, it's not other employee's i am worried about. he didn't even bother to unblock them for his IT staff who need it to work.
[11:06] <q_a_z_steve> r00t4rd3d dood where's my mock-them button?
[11:06] <Eagle> HugoGF:  Oh right  :-[
[11:06] <HugoGF> llutz_: Thanks
[11:07] <szpreader> hi, I'm new to ubuntu, can anyone tell me how to set allongside EN another language for the keyboard?
[11:08] <ne2k> szpreader: system->preferences->keyboard->layouts ->add
[11:08] <kieppie> hi guys. I need to auto-login & start an app (xbmc), & I'm looking for a simple guide (skinny X; no desktop). can anyone please help?
[11:09] <Eagle> szpreader: System - Preference and there is three options on keyboards.
[11:09] <ox3a> q_a_z_steve, I am remastering ubuntu command line. So no useful any GUI tools when editing because it wont open
[11:09] <r00t4rd3d> kwtm, PM
[11:09] <q_a_z_steve> ox3a ah
[11:09] <ox3a> q_a_z_steve, yeah
[11:10] <ne2k> kieppie: are you trying to start X and run one program on bootup?
[11:10] <ox3a> q_a_z_steve, Just need dpkg,apt-get,nano and other commands
[11:10] <kieppie>  ne2k:  that's correct
[11:10] <ne2k> kieppie: i.e. for a media centre?
[11:10] <Eagle> szpreader: Can I PM you?  :)
[11:10] <kieppie>  ne2k: correct again
[11:11] <q_a_z_steve> r00t4rd3d have any more splash up your sleeve? no gui allowed...
[11:11] <ne2k> kieppie: well you're probably best just editing the inittab and getting rid of gdm, etc. altogether
[11:11] <kieppie>  ne2k: I'm looking at guides, but they're a bit of a jumble. I'd like some simple instructions
[11:11] <kieppie>  ne2k: there's no gdm
[11:11] <kieppie>  ne2k: skinny X
[11:11] <ne2k> kieppie: I don't know what that is
[11:12] <bonjoyee> kieppie: XBMC has its own distro (live cd) as well!
[11:12] <ox3a> q_a_z_steve, so?
[11:12] <hetii> Hi :>
[11:12] <hetii> Q: Why ip route show don`t display me the route added by: ip route add default via xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx dev tun1 table 201 ?
[11:12] <q_a_z_steve> !patience > ox3a I'm going to see if I can tempt r00t4rd3d
[11:12] <ne2k> hetii: I think by default it will only show the default routing table.
[11:13] <kieppie> bonjoyee: I've installed an ultra-minimal setup (with only X installed; no destop-manager) & loading xbmc as the only app
[11:13] <hetii> ip route show all sow me the same :/
[11:13] <ne2k> hetii: you can do ip route show table all
[11:13] <bonjoyee> kieppie: oh...ok.
[11:13] <Eagle> ubottu: Can I PM you?  :)
[11:14] <ox3a> Eagle, lol
[11:14] <Eagle> ox3a: ?????
[11:14] <ne2k> kieppie: what happens currently when you boot the system?
[11:14] <r00t4rd3d> hmm , not sure how to do with cli
[11:14] <ox3a> Eagle, PM to bot!
[11:14] <szpreader> yes eagle
[11:15] <ne2k> RAH, there is no /etc/inittab on my Ubuntu! how did that happen?!
[11:15] <erUSUL> hetii: try --> sudo ip route show table all
[11:15] <insmod> kieppie: what do you need to do?
[11:16] <bonjoyee> kieppie: http://forum.xbmc.org/showthread.php?t=38473
[11:16] <hetii> i do it by root :/
[11:16] <q_a_z_steve> ox3a see r00t4rd3d, now see google, or you could try contacting the owner of the zorin webs
[11:16] <kieppie> ne2k: I've messed around with it, but have reset to defaults so that I only get a login prompt after boot. basically I need to power the system up, & once the boot's completed, it automatically logs in & starts the app (xbmc) in X
[11:17] <Goliath> hola
[11:17] <Goliath> I have installed cdrtools package, but still when i run k3b i get these errors (http://pastebin.com/3Ajwqp9m). Any ideas?
[11:17] <kieppie> bonjoyee: that looks simple enough, thansk
[11:17] <hetii> hmm
[11:17] <ne2k> kieppie: bonjoyee: that guide looks like the Ubuntified way of doing what I was going to suggest
[11:17] <hetii> strange
[11:17] <insmod> kieppie:easy
[11:18] <erUSUL> Goliath: the error says dvd+rw-tools not cdrtools
[11:18] <q_a_z_steve> Goliath have you checked synaptic for anything like that?
[11:18] <bonjoyee> kieppie: ne2k: well i have never tried this kind of setup..but looks promising anyway!
[11:18] <erUSUL> Goliath: why did you instaled cdrtools ?
[11:18] <r00t4rd3d> kwtm_, hey you here ?
[11:18] <kwtm_> Can you hear me, r00t4rd3d?
[11:18] <kieppie> cheers, guys. I'll try that in the morning..
[11:18] <Goliath> erUSUL: its better
[11:18] <r00t4rd3d> yeah look at pm ?
[11:18] <kandinski> my nvidia card has broken, and I am x-less. how can I reconfigure X to use the onboard intel graphix from the console with no gui?
[11:19] <erUSUL> Goliath: what is better?
[11:19] <q_a_z_steve> r00t4rd3d what's the package handler ui prog like twilight-commander
[11:19] <kwtm> ubottu: Can you hear me?
[11:19] <q_a_z_steve> kwtm FTW!
[11:19] <r00t4rd3d> q_a_z_steve, what are you talking about ?
[11:19] <q_a_z_steve> r00t4rd3d the text-ish UI
[11:19] <hetii> ok i have it.
[11:19] <insmod> kieppie: no just get init to start the .xint file way cleaner
[11:19] <r00t4rd3d> still lost
[11:20] <hetii> but the question is why it don`t work :/
[11:20] <q_a_z_steve> tab around and hit 'i' for more info, used it with ubuntu server install
[11:20] <kieppie> insmod: too tired to think now. got a guide, please?
[11:20] <q_a_z_steve> !error > hetii
[11:20] <erUSUL> Goliath: remove cdrtools and install dvd+rw-tools. they are different things is like comparing apples and oranges neither is better than the other
[11:20] <insmod> kieppie: no just my brain sorry
[11:20] <r00t4rd3d> kwtm, can you not see private messages ?
[11:21] <q_a_z_steve> insmod++
[11:21] <kwtm> r00t4rd3d, q_a_z_steve: Hey, I'm back!  Sorry, had to switch to wireless and wait for reconnection.
[11:21] <q_a_z_steve> erUSUL FALSE, it was proven in the 70's that oranges are better.
[11:21] <q_a_z_steve> jk
[11:22] <erUSUL> q_a_z_steve: ^.^
[11:22] <q_a_z_steve> d-_-b
[11:22] <blahdeblah> Hi.  What simple apps can be used to produce HDR photos on Ubuntu?  I've tried hugin, and the interface is very confusing and i've been unable to produce usable results with it.
[11:23] <q_a_z_steve> !best > blahdeblah
[11:23] <gobbe> blahdeblah: gimp
[11:23] <blahdeblah> q_a_z_steve: Who said anything about best?
[11:23] <lordNicon> wow
[11:23] <r00t4rd3d> yawns
[11:23] <danthemango> what?
[11:23] <lordNicon> so many users
[11:23] <danthemango> lol
[11:24] <blahdeblah> gobbe: Where is it found in gimp?
[11:24] <danthemango> what?
[11:24] <q_a_z_steve> blahdeblah try it
[11:24] <danthemango> what's gobbe?
[11:24] <q_a_z_steve> what's danthemango
[11:25] <danthemango> itsa me
[11:25] <kwtm> bonjoyee: Thank you! It worked!
[11:25] <danthemango> oh, I thought he meant how to find gobbe IN gimp
[11:25] <q_a_z_steve> bonjoyee++
[11:25] <kwtm> bonjoyee: Well, I didn't do *exactly* what you said ... but you inspired me to go manually remove all versions of Flash... but it was still in Firefox.
[11:26] <q_a_z_steve> doingItYourself++ kwtm
[11:27] <bonjoyee> kwtm: q_a_z_steve: :)
[11:27] <blahdeblah> danthemango: No, i meant how to find the HDR feature in gimp. :-)
[11:27] <kwtm> bonjoyee: It turns out that after removal, there's *still* this flash plugin in my mozilla directory, clinging on like an unwiped piece of ... er, never mind.  Aaaanyway...
[11:27] <Holly> xD Can anyone maybe help me with a weird Ubuntu issue?
[11:28] <danthemango> lol@blah
[11:28] <kwtm> bonjoyee: I removed that, and now the usual "sudo apt-get install adobe-flashplugin" has put Flash 10 on my system!  Now I get the best of both worlds: you were right, but also this plugin will be autoupdated with apt-get. :)
[11:28] <q_a_z_steve> !anyone > Holly
[11:28] <bonjoyee> kwtm: thats nice!! best of both world truly!:)
[11:29] <q_a_z_steve> !gimp
[11:29] <archana> how to set proxy for apt
[11:29] <ChrisDruif> q_a_z_steve: They need more developers thou ;)
[11:30] <kwtm> YEsss!!  I can now do banking again!!
[11:30] <q_a_z_steve> ChrisDruif ???
[11:30] <ChrisDruif> Gimp q_a_z_steve :)
[11:30] <ChrisDruif> They've got about 2,5 active developers :)
[11:30] <kwtm> ne2k: Okay, so now that it works: to address your comment about banking and flash: my bank does NOT require flash for everyday banking.
[11:30] <q_a_z_steve> ChrisDruif who are you suggesting join the team?
[11:30] <insmod> kwtm: what did you say your ip was?
[11:30] <sacarlson> archana: synaptic has settings for proxy in preferrences>network
[11:31] <pixie79> hi all, i have an odd problem i am guessing i need to updated a config file somewhere but i am not sure. We have several programs that write their pid files to sub dirs inside /var/run, however as these are customer dirs that we add for example /var/run/web, after a reboot the directory is gone
[11:31] <pixie79> does anyone know how to make these persistant ?
[11:31] <kwtm> ne2k: However, one important function requires flash: generating a disposable credit card number (the only way I will do eCommerce over the web)
[11:31] <kwtm> insmod: Why, are you going to hack into my computer?  Lessee... I'm at <IP_ADDRESS>
[11:31] <jolaren> If I want to use Mono in Ubuntu I do "mono program.?" if I want to use pspda in Ubuntu I run "pspda file.+" but if I want to run OpenAL I can't run "OpenAL program.?"  -.. what is the correct commando?
[11:31] <archana> sacarlson, but i have a proxy server with authentication
[11:31] <ChrisDruif> I don't know....but the text thing said advanced image manipulation....however, they are going instinct :)
[11:31] <ne2k> kwtm: never heard of such a thing. don't you trust SSL?
[11:31] <ne2k> kwtm: and, you know, like, the law?
[11:32] <insmod> kwtm<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[11:32] <kwtm> ne2k: Not a matter of what I trust.  When I ask to use disposable credit card numbers, it launches a flash app.  What does that have to do with whether I trust SSL?
[11:32] <sacarlson> archana: the proxy settings in synaptic also include authentication settings
[11:32] <judgen> What key do tey mean with "^G"
[11:32] <ne2k> kwtm: I was wondering why you need a disposable credit card number. I just use my credit card and have never had any problems
[11:32] <q_a_z_steve> !error > jolaren
[11:33] <ChrisDruif> judgen: I'm not sure, but I think it's Ctrl+G
[11:33] <Goliath> hi
[11:33] <Goliath>  do you guys use burning group with k3b?
[11:33] <Goliath> or i dont need it
[11:33] <archana> sacarlson, ok but i am getting forbidden error all over when i use sudo apt-get update