[00:22] <rww> The colourful reign of terror ended, I see.
[00:23] <IdleOne> your colors got taken away
[00:23] <IdleOne> :/
[00:23] <IdleOne> /rsay that sucks
[00:23] <rww> probably for the best, I was thinking of doing it anyway ;P
[00:52] <Jordan_U> rww: I'd give nicholas_ some slack since that was a response to Quintin's "buy a mac".
[00:53] <rww> You should see my usual response to people bringing up ADHD O:)
[00:53] <Jordan_U> rww: I'm curious now.
[01:07] <bazhang> rwlove: troll
[01:07] <rww> i do not love why do people keep pretending i do :(
[01:07] <rww> (i know, tab complete...)
[01:08] <LjL> ftr quintin is an old troll
[01:09] <bazhang> seems so
 Let's not be IRC nazis   in response to my suggestion to be civil
[01:14] <rww> Apparently I am also an IRC nazi. MLIA.
[01:14] <elky> heh
[01:15] <bazhang> nice! now all the ops will watch this channel!
[01:15] <bazhang> whoops
[01:17] <Flannel> bazhang: I don't think the ops ever watch this channel.
[01:17] <LjL> but rww and i do!
[01:17] <LjL> and rww is an op now :P
[01:17] <bazhang> Flannel, hehe true
[01:18] <Flannel> LjL: Then he must not watch this channel now
[01:30] <bazhang> was ohsix the one arguing gksudo / sudo yesterday?
[01:30] <rww> yes
[01:30] <bazhang> aha
[01:51] <bazhang> telepac.pt :/
[01:52] <rww> who now?
[01:52] <bazhang> azzy_somenumbers
[02:42] <rww> vhdl in #ubuntu was being annoying in #freenode earlier, best keep an eye on them.
[02:42] <bazhang> very
[02:43] <bazhang> that 2001:470 looks very familiar in fact
[03:07] <bazhang> sock puppeting
[03:07] <rww> nod
[03:07] <bazhang> also /remove or /kick lets fb's ban them
[03:07] <bazhang> ie wanking was already banned but still in the channel
[03:09] <rww> yeah, I clean up stuff like that when ubottu pokes me to review the ban
[03:09] <bazhang> I got vhdl in PM, no response yet
[03:09] <rww> about asking to ask a question and not actually asking it?
[03:09] <Flannel> VHDL?
[03:10] <Flannel> Oh, that's a nick.
[03:10] <Flannel> I thought you were getting code in PM
[03:10] <rww> Flannel, always the EE :(
[03:10] <bazhang> heh yeah
[03:20] <IdleOne> 4th time vhdl asks if he can ask a question
[03:21] <bazhang> well he can! and he has!
[03:21] <bazhang> he needed to say "can I ask 5 questions?"
[03:23] <Flannel> just tell him SIGNAL questions : STD_LOGIC_VECTOR (4 DOWNTO 0) := "11111";
[03:24] <Flannel> Maybe he'll understand that better!
[03:27] <Flannel> Hi MUILTFN_, how can we help you?
[03:39] <bazhang> and he's back
[03:39] <bazhang> still no response via PM btw
[03:39]  * rww ponders banforwarding to #ubuntu-trivia
[03:39] <rww> in soviet Ubuntu, questions are asked to you!
[04:02] <rww> oh my goodness it asked a question
[04:16] <bazhang> I suspect its capntrade
[04:16] <rww> so do i. silly IPv6 :(
[06:32] <Jordan_U> Is it just me or do people asking for help in another language tend to do so almost in groups?
[07:10] <bazhang> MUILTFN_, hi
[08:39] <bazhang> man wget
[08:42] <ikonia> waste of time trying to help people
[08:42] <ikonia> "I know what I'm doing, I'm certified, I working a hosting centre"
[08:42] <ikonia> then why are you asking for help ?
[08:42] <bazhang> psilocybe seems to be wasting time
[08:42] <ikonia> done with it
[11:03] <ikonia> hello soreau
[11:03] <soreau> Hello all, I have a problem with !nvidia and !ati factoids in #ubuntu. They point to the link called https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto which suggests (by it name) that you must install a binary (proprietary) driver which is not the case for most cards, especially in light of the new FOSS driver situation
[11:03] <soreau> hi ikonia
[11:03] <ikonia> ok, so what would you suggest for the name of the page ?
[11:04] <soreau> Well I havent thought that far out, give me a moment please, its 5am here :)
[11:05] <soreau> ikonia: I would think it should be named something less biased toward binary drivers
[11:05] <soreau> VideoDriverHowTo?
[11:05] <ikonia> ok, seems reasonable
[11:07] <ikonia> are you happy with the content that is there ?
[11:08]  * soreau looks
[11:08] <soreau> ikonia: Not fully but I can edit the page later
[11:09] <soreau> To make it more generic
[11:09] <ikonia> ok, so lets get a new page then
[11:09] <ikonia> !ati
[11:10]  * soreau second guesses
[11:11] <ikonia> hang on
[11:11] <soreau> ok
[11:13] <ikonia> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VideoDriverHowto
[11:13] <ikonia> happy ?
[11:14] <soreau> !ati
[11:14] <soreau> ikonia: Not yet ;)
[11:14] <ikonia> I'll change that next
[11:14] <soreau> I know, j/k
[11:14] <ikonia> are you happy witht he new page
[11:14] <ikonia> ahh, cool
[11:14] <soreau> This will help shape the guide
[11:14] <ikonia> ok, I'll update the factoid if you can get to work on the page content
[11:15]  * soreau logs in
[11:16] <soreau> ikonia: Thank you for this attention, this has been bugging me for some time now
[11:17] <ikonia> no problem
[11:18] <ikonia> !ati is <sed> /BinaryDriverHowto/VideoDriverHowto
[11:18] <ikonia> !ati is <sed> /BinaryDriverHowto/VideoDriverHowto/
[11:18] <ikonia> !ati
[11:18] <tsimpson> it's !binarydriver
[11:18] <ikonia> are they linked to ati/nvidia etc
[11:18] <ikonia> ?
[11:18] <tsimpson> !+ati
 binarydriver
[11:18] <ikonia> ah, thank you
[11:18] <ikonia> !binarydriver is <sed> /BinaryDriverHowto/VideoDriverHowto/
[11:19] <tsimpson> there's also !binarydriver-#ubuntu+1
[11:19] <ikonia> is that the same content ?
[11:19] <ikonia> !binarydriver-#ubuntu+1
[11:19] <ikonia> !binarydriver-#ubuntu+1 is <sed> /BinaryDriverHowto/VideoDriverHowto/
[11:20] <ikonia> tsimpson: perfect, thank you
[11:20] <tsimpson> :)
[11:20] <ikonia> do you really need the <sed> keyword, I'm sure I've done substitution without ?
[11:20] <soreau> !ati
[11:21] <soreau> I have changed the header bullet so far..
[11:21] <soreau> I intend to update the rest of the page over time
[11:21] <ikonia> ok, well, as long as it gets done in a reasonable time it will be a good udpate
[11:24] <soreau> ikonia: thanks again for your attention
[12:03] <popey> that guide is flawed
[12:23] <ikonia> an ubuntugeek.com guide is flawed, NO !!!!!!!
[12:23] <ikonia> shock horror

[12:23] <ikonia> ;)
[12:25] <elky> Say it isn't so
 can I run ubuntu on a nokia flip phone?    along with "can I ask a question?" 23 or so times
[12:30] <ikonia> he's done that before too
[12:30] <bazhang> any reason not to mute?
[12:31] <bazhang> he never answers when asked about the specs for the phone, or at all
[12:31] <ikonia> he's had his warning now, any more, just end it
[12:37] <ikonia> lag
[12:37] <bazhang> muted and got him in PM
[12:37] <bazhang> ah I see you removed him, thanks
[12:38] <ikonia> just joined #debian as he was muted
[12:38] <ikonia> behaving like a fool in #freenode too
[12:38] <ikonia> enjoy
[12:48] <tsimpson> ikonia: you can use "!foo =~ ..." (or !foo ~=) instead of "!no foo is <sed> ..."
[12:48] <ikonia> ahh, that's it
[16:45] <vhdl> hi, why was quieted in #ubuntu?
[16:46] <popey> repeated "can I ask a question?" "can I run ubuntu on a flip phone"?
[16:51] <IdleOne> vhdl: your current behaviour in #ubuntu-offtopic shows me that the quiet in #ubuntu will not be removed anytime soon. Anything else we might help you with?
[16:54] <topyli> vhdl: if you have no other issues, please leave this channel, as idling is not allowed here
[16:54] <vhdl> http://blog.feenode.net/?=1210 says you guys are wrong
[16:55] <vhdl> i will appeal this to freenode
[16:55] <mrmist> Posting that sort of link won't really help matters for you.
[16:55] <vhdl> lol
[16:56] <vhdl> lol
[16:56] <topyli> hrm
[17:03] <Pici> hrm indeed
[17:08] <topyli> ni niko :)
[17:15] <Pici> vhdl is now requesting an ubuntu-sexytime/vhdl cloak in #freenode
[17:16] <jpds> Pici: Oh right.
[17:20]  * Pici has ubuntu on hilight in #freenode
[18:14] <ikonia> hello Jak3
[18:14] <Jak3> is there anyone avaliable at the moment?
[18:14] <ikonia> yes
[18:14] <Jak3> ikonia /hello
[18:14] <ikonia> how can we help
[18:14] <Jak3> how do i send a private message?
[18:14] <ikonia> for those sort of questions it's best to ask in the channel of the client you are using
[18:15] <ikonia> normally /msg $user
[18:15] <ikonia> also #freenode is good for general irc advice
[18:16] <Jak3> also... is there a technical channel?
[18:16] <Pici> As relating to what?
[18:16] <ikonia> technical channel for what ?
[18:16] <Jak3> like keyboard.... resolution.... wireless..... etc
[18:17] <Pici> Jak3: For Ubuntu?
[18:17] <Jak3> no
[18:17] <Jak3> backtrack
[18:17] <Pici> Jak3: #backtrack-linux  we do not support Backtrack in ubuntu channels.
[18:17] <ikonia> Jak3: I've told you before
[18:17] <ikonia>  #backtrack-linux
[18:17] <Jak3> but how do i register????
[18:17] <Jak3> =@
[18:17] <Pici> !register
[18:17] <ikonia> Jak3: I've told you that also
[18:17] <ikonia> Jak3: if you are having problems ask in #freenode
[18:18] <Jak3> hold on brb.... just kick me the now... i will c&p that....
[18:18] <ikonia> what ?
[18:18] <ikonia> Jak3: just type /part
[18:18] <Jak3> ok thanx....
[18:19] <Jak3> brb... gotta eat dinner
[18:19] <Jak3> bye
[18:19] <ikonia> bye
[18:19] <Pici> bye
[18:19] <Pici> o.o
[18:19] <ikonia> spent about an hour with him in pm last night (or night before) explaining to him how to register and join #backtrack-linux
[18:19] <Pici> ugh
[18:20] <ikonia> and explaining #freenode's use to him
[18:20] <ikonia> etc
[18:32] <ikonia> hello again jak
[18:32] <Jak3> hello....
[18:32] <ikonia> how can we help now ?
[18:33] <Jak3> can we talk in a private chat?
[18:33] <ikonia> why ?
[18:33] <Jak3> sorry...its not a problem.... just bored.....
[18:33] <Jak3> i will go now
[18:33] <ikonia> ok, well, this channel isn't for chatting
[18:33] <Pici> Jak3: Our chat channel is #ubuntu-offtopic
[18:33] <ikonia> try #defocus
[18:33] <Pici> Or that
[18:34] <Jak3> saying cant send to channel....
[18:34] <ikonia> what command are you using to join
[18:34] <Jak3> on #defocus
[18:34] <Pici> defocus requires voice.
[18:34] <ikonia> I shouldn't have pointed you there,
[18:34] <Jak3> ohhhh
[18:35] <ikonia> Jak3: ask in #freenode
[18:35] <Jak3> ok
[18:35] <Pici> No.
[18:35] <ikonia> Jak3: this channel is for #ubuntu
[18:35] <Pici> They won't like him asking in #freenode.  The instructions are in the topic of that channel.
[18:35] <Jak3> im in ubuntu-offtopic i will go now
[18:35] <Pici> okay
[18:36] <ikonia> he's going to start asking about backtrack...I know it
[18:36] <ikonia> he can't help himself
[18:36] <Pici> le sigh
[18:36] <ikonia> das sigh
[18:57] <jpds> вздох.
[18:59] <jpds> Languages with articles are for the birds.
[19:09]  * jussi waves.
[19:11] <genii-around> Hi jussi !
[19:12] <jussi> hi genii-around :)


[04:06] <Takyoji> *cough hint cough* http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=153190131361740
[04:20] <Takyoji> Anyone know of a decent subtitle format that isn't patent-encumbered or anything stupid?
[04:22] <tonyyarusso> alt="Some text here"
[04:40] <Takyoji> I'm talking about for video. :P
[04:45] <Takyoji> I suppose WebSRT is the only suitable thing for my case.
[22:02] <Takyoji> Random thought: wouldn't it be convenient if the window manager had like a "snap to grid" concept with resizing windows?
[22:03] <Takyoji> moving/resizing*
[22:09] <Takyoji> I remember some Windows Server elitist that said command line is only for the nostalgic. xP
[22:10] <Takyoji> of some overweight representative of a local company in Faribault, whom had issues trying to start up the desktop he did the presentation on, at a 'career exploration' day thing.
[22:12] <Obsidian1723> how does his being overweight relate to his closed-mindedness?
[22:12] <Takyoji> whom implied if you ever want to get into technology, people will only care about Microsoft certifications (and I'm not exaggerating)
[22:12] <Takyoji> Well, alright, that was off-topic
[22:12] <Obsidian1723> and that was rather judmental too.
[22:12] <Obsidian1723> You can't complain of closed-minds if you yourself haveo ne as well.
[22:27] <kermit> it totally relates, both are evidence of a long list of cognative biases, of which was the point.
[22:28] <Obsidian1723> No, it doesn't.
[22:29] <Obsidian1723> Weight has zero to do with closed-mindedness.
[22:29] <Takyoji> Again, I had no intent of mocking those with obesity.
[22:31] <Takyoji> By the way, do those whom sell Windows licenses typically get it cheaper, to have markup, to have it equate the common price?
[22:31] <Obsidian1723> A fair comparisson would be to say that the guy was judgemental in support of MS/Windows, ruling out other solutions; and Takyoji was judgmental towards overweight people. Not trying to start shyte, just saying kermit, if you are going to compare, do like vs like, that's all.
[22:31] <Takyoji> (random curiosity)
[22:31] <Obsidian1723> Anyway........... moving onward.
[22:32] <Obsidian1723> Tak, OEMs get it cheaper I know..
[22:32] <Obsidian1723> but do you mean does the average Best buy employee get a discount? no.
[22:32] <Obsidian1723> That's why there are VLKs, those also get a discount too.
[22:33] <Takyoji> I'm just curious as to why typical retailers of hardware avoiding Linux and cling to selling Microsoft-based platforms, even when the use case is as simple as a webserver that'll be seldom touched.
[22:34] <Takyoji> and wondering if it's based upon profit from selling Windows-based equipment
[22:34] <Takyoji> Specifically servers.
[22:35] <Obsidian1723> nah
[22:35] <Takyoji> There's a church ministry that has a static website that's hosted on IIS which also has Exchange.
[22:35] <Obsidian1723> old Bill hanings had OEM licensing since the begin
[22:35] <Takyoji> Nobody ever interacts with the actual server and just work via FTP
[22:35] <kermit> Takyoji: its becuase of about 15% of these http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_cognitive_biases
[22:35] <kermit> Takyoji: and, as you correctly identified, are also substantialy the set of biases that relate to obescity
[22:35] <Takyoji> Which kills really the point of a Windows Server; considering to my understanding people favor such due to the straightforward GUI for configuring IIS
[22:36] <kermit> hmm more like 50% of that list
[22:36] <Obsidian1723> In 75, when MS started, and shortly thereafter, Bill and MS bought QDOS, Quick and Dorty Operating System. They they converted it into MS-DOS, or Micro-Soft Disk Operating System, then did the OEM licensing with vendors at the time to secure their place as the OS provider as the de facto standard.
[22:37] <Obsidian1723> Dirty..correcting my typo
[22:38] <Takyoji> but if they're just poking at it via FTP, and paying the vendor that gave them the physical server a load of money for "maintaining" the server, whereas the details of what's "maintained" is undisclosed..
[22:38] <Takyoji> QDOS was their attempt at an OS, then they bought DOS from some random person and rebranded it as MS-DOS, right?
[22:38] <Takyoji> (just never heard of QDOS before)
[22:42] <Obsidian1723> No, they bought QDOS, added to it and re-branded it as MS-DOS after some cloding and cleanup work on it.
[22:43] <Obsidian1723> The future in software as far as licensing goes is SAaS.
[22:43] <Takyoji> Anyway, other point being, I find it awkward that they say it's "what the customer wants" even though many never really exclusively requested such, and also as to why there's so much "maintenance and servicing" they get paid for each server.
[22:44] <Takyoji> even when the case is as simple as a webserver
[22:44] <Obsidian1723> yeah
[22:46] <Takyoji> I don't mind if someone wants Windows, that's fine. But it seems like force-feeding when not specifically implied considering they seem to have a lot of overhead costs associated.
[22:47] <Takyoji> and I shall be leaving to go to the Steele County Fair
[22:47] <Obsidian1723> cools. have fun.


[00:11] <samuel_> 'lo
[00:11] <samuel_> bye
[00:12] <daskreech> !bye
[00:39] <rmrfslash> How do I install the sun JVM in Kubuntu Lucid?
[00:39] <rmrfslash> I only see gcj and open-jdk
[00:39] <rmrfslash> jamvm and caco
[00:40] <rmrfslash> cacao
[00:40] <rmrfslash> is it openjdk?
[00:45] <avihay> rmrfslash: I'm guessing you specifically want sun's jdk
[00:46] <avihay> if so, you can install sun-java6-jdk
[00:46] <avihay> otherwise, you can install deafult-jdk, and it will probably install open-jdk for you and not sun's version
[00:49] <daskreech> ORacle now!
[00:56] <BiggFREE> Hi
[00:57] <daskreech> !hi
[01:15] <ubuntu_> hello!
[01:16] <ubuntu_> hello fabian!
[02:01] <flypiper> just installed kubuntu 9.10 and am looking where to configure the background for each desktop.  Is that still an option? or not
[02:02] <soledad> Hi people
[02:02] <soledad> i have an existencial question
[02:02] <soledad> about Wine
[02:02] <soledad> anyone with some seniority on that?
[02:13] <BiggFREE> bbl
[02:13] <BiggFREE> tc
[02:29] <blackcoder> Hellow....
[02:31] <daskreech> !hi
[02:47] <thieflock> Who watches "To Catch a Predator"?
[02:49] <thieflock> I think we should reanact some scenes...
[02:49] <thieflock> Hello!
[03:02] <DarkriftX> is there any archive manager different than ark? it sucks pretty bad lately
[03:13] <chengchen> hell
[03:15] <daskreech> Hmm?
[03:16] <daskreech> DarkriftX: What sucks?
[03:16] <DarkriftX> it just doesnt work like it used to
[03:16] <daskreech> Which is?
[03:16] <DarkriftX> i cant browse for a extract location, clicking on a file doesnt let me select, it opens the file
[03:17] <DarkriftX> when i select multiple files i sometimes have to drag one or it will unselect the rest and open that one
[03:20] <Tarantel> hi there
[03:21] <Tarantel> may i ask some of you for help?
[03:21] <DarkriftX> !ask
[03:21] <Tarantel> okay
[03:24] <Tarantel> i've got an kingston 4 gb usbstick and there was a beta of kubuntu on it, but i somehow made it to "destroy" the whoole OS. now i've downloaded the ISO of Kubuntu again and i wantet to install, but there  is a partition which i can't get formatted under windows. I'm sorry for my bad english :D
[03:24] <DarkriftX> ahhhh, xarchiver works great!!! none of the problems I have with ark are present (even though it does look kinda 1990's)
[03:25] <DarkriftX> why do you need to format a partition in windows?
[03:25] <lespea> Tarantel: I'm confused... you're trying to install kubuntu but then you say you're trying to format a partition in windows?
[03:26] <DarkriftX> use a linux live cd to do it
[03:26] <Tarantel> i watn to have the kubuntu OS on the usb stick so that i can boot from the usb stick on any computer
[03:26] <Tarantel> *want
[03:27] <lespea> but why are you trying to format the partition in windows...
[03:27] <Tarantel> well where else should i try it?
[03:27] <DarkriftX> windows doesnt like linux partitions
[03:28] <Tarantel> thats my problem
[03:28] <DarkriftX> you either need a special windows app (partition manager, expensive) or linux
[03:28] <Tarantel> k
[03:28] <Tarantel> so i should make a live cd?
[03:28] <DarkriftX> i wuold
[03:28] <Tarantel> okay
[03:28] <DarkriftX> always good to keep one around
[03:28] <Tarantel> thanks for help ;)
[03:28] <Tarantel> umm
[03:29] <Tarantel> i've got a GRML cd here
[03:29] <Tarantel> is it possible to do it with GRML?
[03:30] <lespea> just fdisk the drive and remove the partitions
[03:30] <lespea> usb = /dev/sda  ->  sudo fdisk /dev/sda
[03:30] <Tarantel> okay
[03:30] <Tarantel> thx ;)
[03:30] <Tarantel> i willl try it right niw :D
[03:30] <lespea> you could make a new partition there too and then create a filesystem on it with mkfs
[03:31] <lespea> np
[03:31] <Tarantel> cya later
[03:31] <lespea> later
[03:38] <ForgeAus> uh anyone here know anything about wubi?
[03:40] <mimail> it is easy
[03:54] <Tarantel> DarkriftX lespea
[03:55] <Tarantel> whank you guys sooo much X)
[03:55] <Tarantel> *thank
[03:55] <Tarantel> i've made it
[03:55] <Tarantel> it is formatted right now :D
[03:55] <lespea> glad to hear that :)
[03:56] <Tarantel> now i will install kubuntu and explore linux \O/
[03:58] <lespea> I haven't tried kde since 4.2 and it's come a looooong way
[03:58] <lespea> I'm very impressed
[04:00] <ForgeAus> I need a new PC, I'm still stuck with 4.2.x somewhere along the line
[04:00] <ForgeAus> and I don't particularly want to start with a fresh distro
[04:00] <ForgeAus> (erm install I meant)
[04:03] <daskreech> Tarantel: Welcome :)
[04:03] <daskreech> lespea: Drat should have waited 4 months for KDE 4.5
[04:03] <daskreech> Some snazzy stuff coming
[04:03] <daskreech> But wait till 4.6!
[04:04] <lespea> daskreech: lol there's always something coming down the pipe :p
[04:04] <daskreech> lespea: I know i bloody hate KDE developers for that
[04:04] <daskreech> KDE 4.5 will be out in two weeks and they will start showing screenshots of what they have working so far for KDE 4.6 that missed the freeze for KDE 4.5
[04:04] <ForgeAus> hehe daskreech whats coming?
[04:05] <daskreech> I don't even have 4.5 yet and I can't wait for 4.6 STOP IT Just please stop being so awesome and consistent in coding a great vision
[04:05]  * daskreech cries in the corner
[04:05] <ForgeAus> I should download me some .iso's!
[04:05] <daskreech> ForgeAus: Seen the new stuff for the System tray and the bluring algorithim they have ?
[04:06] <ForgeAus> I don't like blurring I prefer my transparency clear...
[04:06] <ForgeAus> they trying to emulate windows or something?
[04:06] <daskreech> no it looks a bit better and where they are using it makes more sense
[04:06] <ForgeAus> as for the system tray no I don't know alot about KDE4 since 4.2.x
[04:07] <daskreech>  Course you can just make a theme that rips off Windows 7 or 8 or Mobile somethingsomethign if you like
[04:07] <ForgeAus> daskreech you mean not juts window decorators?
[04:07] <daskreech> There are a lot less Window Decos and Themes than there used to be back in the day
[04:07] <daskreech> ForgeAus: Nope like a library you can use it in apps or dialogs or animations
[04:08] <Tarantel> omfg
[04:08] <ForgeAus> (I think I should suggest a filter decorator for KDE :) .. ones that are, animated, and/or mod according to what they're ontop of... like colour-cycle
[04:08] <Tarantel> linux is so fantastic
[04:08] <ForgeAus> that could be cute :)
[04:10] <daskreech> It could be
[04:10] <daskreech> Tarantel: It gets tiring after a while
[04:10] <ForgeAus> as in go a few steps further than transparency and make it magnify or work with what's behind the window...
[04:10] <daskreech> like 9 years of constant fantasmically awesomnisity does start to burn away your nerve endings
[04:11] <davhere> if i try to reload ubuntu..will it updat ok?
[04:11] <daskreech> ForgeAus: you can do that but why would you it's distracting
[04:11] <daskreech> davhere: I have no clue. What do you mean by reload. Reboot?
[04:11] <lespea> daskreech: do you have a link to a youtube video or something?
[04:11] <ForgeAus> hey daskreech you know much about Wubi?
[04:11] <davhere> put in fresh coppy
[04:11] <ForgeAus> (as in the windows ubuntu installer)
[04:12] <daskreech> lespea: on?
[04:12] <daskreech> ForgeAus: Much no. I can spell it for you
[04:12] <lespea> the stuff you're so excited for in 4.5
[04:12] <davhere> i have the ubuntu 7.10 cd
[04:12] <daskreech> davhere: ah like reinstall?
[04:12] <davhere> ya
[04:12] <daskreech> davhere: Right and you want to do what?
[04:12] <ForgeAus> lol I was just wonderingi f it installs a partition or runs from a hardfile thats all
[04:13] <ForgeAus> (hardfile as in essentally virtual harddisk like Qemu, vmware, etc use)
[04:13] <davhere> i got some erors so tha=ought redoing it might help
[04:13] <davhere> errors so thought*
[04:15] <davhere> mean put cd in and start new agian
[04:22] <Tarantel> omg
[04:23] <Tarantel> i never thoght i could handle with it
[04:23] <Tarantel> but i think i will be able to install kubuntu to the usbstick with help if virtualbox O/
[04:27] <daskreech> :-)
[04:34] <Tarantel> daskreech do you speak  german?
[04:41] <daskreech> Tarantel: Not as well as I used to
[04:41] <daskreech> !de
[04:59] <Tarantel> okay
[05:35] <nix_star> hi everyone, i was wondering if anyone could help with my raid 5 configuration... im using software raid with a total of 6 drives in the raid
[05:35] <nix_star> my problem happened after i updated kubuntu 9.04 to 9.10
[05:37] <daskreech> nix_star: what's the problem?
[05:37] <nix_star> upon boot of the system (after the logo loading "kubuntu") i get these error messages: "ERROR: ddf1: Cannot find physical drive description on /dev/sdg!
[05:38] <nix_star> and then "ERROR: ddf1: setting up RAID device /dev/sdg"
[05:38] <daskreech> sdg ?
[05:38] <Tarantel> i'm giving up
[05:39] <Tarantel> gotta go to bed now
[05:39] <Tarantel> cya guys
[05:39] <nix_star> my raid is made of /dev/sdb1 /dev/sdc1 /dev/sdd1 /dev/sde1 /dev/sdf1 /de/sdg1
[05:50] <shashi> I amgetting this on lucid RC, "Modprobe for Tun driver failed", donno how to fix
[05:50] <shashi> can somebody help?
[05:56] <daskreech> nix_star: So it can't see one of them I'mguessing this is all Software RAID?
[05:56] <daskreech> shashi: ask in #ubuntu+1
[05:56] <nix_star> yes its software raid
[05:56] <shashi> ok thank you
[05:58] <nix_star> when i use mdadm --query --detail /dev/md0 - it reports all drives are "active sync" and working
[05:58] <nix_star> and the state is "clean"
[06:18] <daskreech> nix_star: but no /dev/sdg exists?
[06:19] <nix_star> yes /dev/sdg is the last hard drive in my array, it exists
[06:27] <daskreech> nix_star: Is it a parity drive?
[06:28] <nix_star> its the last drive in my raid 5 array .... will it say if it is parrity in the mdadm --query --detail  ?
[06:56] <daskreech> nix_star: Not sure I'm not familiar with madam
[07:29] <zunk> howdy y'all
[07:30] <zunk> where's everybody from?
[07:35] <rork> !offtopic | zunk
[07:37] <zunk> I'm looking to start a local Kubuntu group here in Miami, Florida.
[07:38] <zunk> Anyone happen to be in Florida?
[07:39] <Mr_Sonoma> suggestions on how to diagnose a boot problem, seems something has happened to my file systems and now they will not mount and fail the file system checks during boot
[07:39] <Mr_Sonoma> ?
[07:44] <iconmefisto> Mr_Sonoma: can you mount them or do a fsck with livecd?
[07:44] <Mr_Sonoma> might have to dig out the live cd
[07:44] <Mr_Sonoma> it says they fail to mount
[07:45] <Mr_Sonoma> was working filesystems at last shut down
[07:45] <iconmefisto> this is karmic 9.10?
[07:45] <Mr_Sonoma> computer will boot into windows (thats how i'm here)
[07:45] <Mr_Sonoma> yea karmic
[07:47] <Mr_Sonoma> i get a shell, but can't runs fscheck, says i need to install with apt-get but then cant use apt because it seems the file system is read only or something
[07:47] <Mr_Sonoma> i cant remember exactly there
[08:37] <rethus> i don't can open the user-management anymore... any tipps how i can start it from shell?
[08:40] <Mr_Sonoma> rethus: what are you wanting to do?
[08:40] <albertolempira> hey guys i'm trying to pair a Motorola S305 bluetooth headset with my notebook but i get a message saying "it doesn't support input service" and can't get it to work. Anybody know what could be happening? thanks in advance
[08:41] <rethus> Mr_Sonoma: i want to open the user management on kde
[08:41] <rethus> the dialoge doesn't open
[08:42] <rethus> i can click offten as i want, nothing happend
[08:42] <rethus> so how can istart this gui from shell to see appearing errors
[08:43] <rethus> strange,not it works again
[08:43] <Mr_Sonoma> you sure you dont have the sudo password box coming up behind some other window?
[08:45] <Mr_Sonoma> i was going to suggest doing user management from commandline if the box was coming up. I was trying to figure out how to start the gui from commandline
[08:51] <iconmefisto> kcmshell4 userconfig
[08:52] <rethus> thx
[08:52] <zunk> anyone know how to run ubuntu as an entirely encrypted OS?
[08:52] <iconmefisto> kdesudo kcmshell4 userconfig  <-- to give it su access
[09:18] <maxagaz> hi
[09:19] <maxagaz> how to activate chinese input method in kubuntu ?
[09:34] <iconmefisto> !cn
[09:35] <iconmefisto> maxagaz: maybe someone there will know?  ^^
[09:36] <maxagaz> iconmefisto: actually, my porblem is to activate ibus
[09:41] <iconmefisto> maxagaz: right-click menu? (I know nothing about this, just guessing) http://img682.imageshack.us/my.php?image=plasmadesktoplq1511.jpg
[10:39] <nonamegod> DAMN IT :|
[11:00] <Backglass> Hi,hola
[11:03] <moetunes> Backglass: need a spanish channel?
[11:04] <moetunes> !es > Backglass
[12:16] <lelamal> hi all, I've recently upgraded to lucid, and can't see the pager reproducing the open windows inside its small screens (sorry if it's unclear)
[12:17] <lelamal> and can't find any setting to reproduce the expected behaviour. What should I do?
[12:24] <moetunes> lelamal: someone in #ubuntu+1 might knw
[12:24] <lelamal> ok thanks, I'm gonna try
[12:45] <xiaolongwang209> 12
[12:47] <xiaolongwang209> 我进来了没有？奇怪
[12:47] <lubse> hello, how do I install a Dutch spelling checker for open office?
[12:49] <moetunes> xiaolongwang209: try in #ubuntu-cn mate
[12:51] <xiaolongwang209> ok
[12:52] <James147> lubse: you can try installing openoffice.org-l10n-nl
[12:54] <lubse> James147: is this the Dutch version of open office?
[12:54] <lubse> because I would like the english version, just a Dutch spelling checker
[12:55] <James147> lubse: its teh "Dutch language package" <- what ever that does :)
[12:57] <James147> lubse: you should be albe to try it and see... uninstalling should revert you back to the default
[13:07] <tew88> Is it possible to apply different properties to various multiple desktops in Kubuntu? In particular, I'd like to have distinct wallpapers between my "work" and "play" desktops.
[13:11] <James147> tew88: yes, you need to enable different activities for each desktop
[13:13] <James147> tew88: on kde 4.4.x its located at System settings > Desktop > Multiple Desktops > Check "Different activity for each desktop"   dont know where it is on 4.3.x as i think it moved
[13:20] <rork> lubse: for dutch spellingchecker install myspell-nl
[13:21] <tew88> ty James147 =)
[13:22] <pawel__> hi
[13:23] <pawel__> I am using Kubuntu Lucid and I think there's serious memory leak in xorg
[13:23] <pawel__> it's raising quickly to over 100MB
[13:23] <pawel__> I used Arch Linux before and it stayed about 30-40MB
[13:24] <pawel__> I'm using Radeon OS driver
[13:24] <rork> pawel__: lucid is supported in #ubuntu+1
[13:24] <pawel__> ok, thank you
[13:24] <James147> pawel__: its unlikly to eb xorg,  xorg takes some of the processing done by other programs so if another one misbehaves it sometimes looks like xorg is
[13:25] <James147> pawel__: try closing some of your other programs currently running that might be taking up lots of memory and see what happens
[13:25] <pawel__> James147: ok, I'll try
[13:28] <pawel__> James147: I don't have anything special running and Xorg is using 75MB right now; without Konversation it can raise to 100MB very easily too
[13:28] <pawel__> James147: I'll check if the problem remains without compositions
[13:30] <tew88> James147: It seems "Activities" are distinct from multiple desktops -- not sure I'm in the mood to configure a new workspace from scratch again!
[13:30] <James147> tew88: they are, its the only way to get a differnt wallpaper though
[13:31] <tew88> James147: Yeah, so it seems. Thanks for the pointer - I'll go for a fresh setup when I install 10.04 =)
[13:38] <pawel__> James147: xorg memory usage is much higher with compositions enabled, raises quicly to 75 and with some programs like Firefox it raises above 100MB after some time
[13:38] <pawel__> quickly*
[13:39] <James147> pawel__: yeah, firefox has always been abit memory hungery :)
[13:39] <pawel__> maybe this is the bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xorg-server/+bug/98783
[13:39] <pawel__> yes, however under Arch (so probably different X server version) it wasn't that bad ;)
[13:41] <James147> pawel__: possibally, also different versions of the applications you where running could affect it
[13:41] <pawel__> James147L that's right, I'll ask at ubuntu+1 too, to be sure if there's no some mem leak
[13:57] <rmrfslash> How can I find what display driver I'm using?
[13:58] <moetunes> read Xorg.0.log
[14:01] <rmrfslash> lspci -k
[14:05] <rmrfslash> i  feel like there's something in my laptop heating up incessantly
[14:05] <rmrfslash> since I installed 10.04
[14:05] <rmrfslash> fan never shuts off
[14:09] <txwikinger> rmrfslash: how long ago did you upgrade?
[14:09] <rmrfslash> 1 day
[14:09] <rmrfslash> release candidate
[14:09] <txwikinger> well.. it might still be nepomuk indexing your drive
[14:10] <rmrfslash> Stigi is idle
[14:10] <rmrfslash> *Strigi
[14:10] <rmrfslash> :P
[14:10] <rmrfslash> almost beat you
[14:10] <txwikinger> :)
[14:11] <rmrfslash> I have a feeling it's the radeon driver
[14:11] <rmrfslash> i turned compositing off though
[14:12] <rmrfslash> the machine is like a good 110 F consistently
[14:12] <txwikinger> well. usually the fans are running because the cpus are very active
[14:12] <rmrfslash> I don't remember it being that hot before
[14:12] <txwikinger> so you should see something in the process list
[14:12] <txwikinger> or maybe the fan control is not working
[14:13] <txwikinger> I had that with a lenovo desktop once
[14:13] <rmrfslash> nothing is really going too nutts
[14:13] <rmrfslash>   /usr/bin/X always seems to hog
[14:13] <rmrfslash> 8-10%
[14:13] <txwikinger> check out if lmsensors IIRC works probably
[14:13] <txwikinger> properly*
[14:13] <rmrfslash> just saw it jump to 30%
[14:14] <rmrfslash> im looking @ the temperature plasmoid
[14:23] <rmrfslash> OK, so I just rebooted and I have no fans going nutts
[14:23] <rmrfslash> tere it goes
[14:26] <wannabe> hi
[14:31] <txwikinger> !ask | wannabe
[14:32] <rmrfslash> OK, so I just shut off Quassel and everything else and the fan shut off
[14:32] <rmrfslash> then I moved the mouse and it went right back on
[14:33] <txwikinger> rmrfslash: hmm.. I know X has a memory leak that they try to fix, but that should not set in so fast
[14:34] <rmrfslash> Well, I'm installing the ATI proprietary driver now
[14:34] <rmrfslash> a.k.a using a GUI to add instability to my system
[14:35] <rmrfslash> reboot time
[14:41] <rmrfslash> temps look a little lower I think
[14:41] <rmrfslash> few degrees
[14:41] <rmrfslash> and dropping
[14:42] <rmrfslash> at about 102-104 now
[14:42] <rmrfslash> i don't see as much "spiking" on the CPU graph
[14:42] <rmrfslash> I have a feeling radeon outsources a lot of computations to the CPU
[14:45] <rmrfslash> Fans are off and I see temps dropping below 100
[14:56] <wannabe> I just installed Kubuntu 9.10. I can't see any wifi network. HW Drivers don't  offer me any HW changes.  My network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4312 802.11b/g (rev 01)
[14:56] <wannabe> can you help me about this?
[14:57] <moetunes> !bcm
[15:55] <penocio> is there ANY way to convert ext3 to fat32 without loosing data?
[16:16] <BluesKaj> hey all
[16:49] <josetgarcia> hello hola?
[16:49] <BobSapp> I installed kubuntu netbook remix, how do i get rid of that applications widget?
[16:51] <josetgarcia> hi, just installed kubuntu (i come from ubuntu) one of my keyboard butto does not work...neither is recognized with xev comand!!! please help!
[16:53] <josetgarcia> hello? anyone here¿
[16:54] <rork> josetgarcia: yes, but people aren't watching the channel all the time
[16:54] <rork> josetgarcia: I don't think I can help you but I'm just wondering is it a special key or a normal one?
[16:54] <josetgarcia> yeah sorry didn't mean it that way....
[16:55] <josetgarcia> its the m key!! i'copy pasting like a dummy!! jajajaja
[16:57] <rork> josetgarcia: sorry for the stupid question but are you sure your keyboard isn't broken?
[16:58] <josetgarcia> thats what i thought, but yesterday it was ok...a was working with ubuntu 9,10...and the thing is that no keycode is shown when running xev comand
[17:00] <josetgarcia> how can i know the keyboard type i have (114/115 keys...)
[17:03] <rork> I was thinking of typing all the characters on it in the sequence they are in and googling it ;)
[17:04] <josetgarcia> could that really work?
[17:07] <josetgarcia> could the key be broken?
[17:07] <rork> it told me I use a standard UK / US qwerty keyboard, but I didn't find a site that identified it by the order if you have a special keyboard you may find it though. Otherwise check your keyboards manual
[17:12] <rork> BobSapp: I think: Right click desktop > add widgets (you can also remove them there)
[17:41] <BobSapp> thanks rork
[18:15] <maxagaz> how to synchronize google account (contacts,calendar,rss,mails) with kontact ?
[18:18] <wannabe_> is that could be? I'm not sure
[18:22] <maxagaz> wannabe_: it seems to be possible with akonadi
[18:22] <maxagaz> but i don't understand how to use it
[18:35] <BluesKaj> maxagaz, make sure you set up sync on googlemail on all your pcs
[18:37] <maxagaz> BluesKaj: how?
[18:38] <BluesKaj> then use your google mail to retrieve emails from your kontact email address in googlemail settings
[18:39] <starenka> hi, how is the alt+f2 (wannabe katapult) called? It doens't refresh it's db, so i wanna restart it to take menu changes into consideration. Or is there any option (haven't seen it), which refreshes the db?
[18:40] <BluesKaj> not alt+f2 , starenka , just do sudo updatedb in the terminal
[18:40] <starenka> oh
[18:40] <starenka> thx
[18:40] <BluesKaj> especially after installing open source apps
[18:42] <starenka> BluesKaj: doesn;t work
[18:44] <BluesKaj> starenka, pls explain what doesn't work ?
[18:45] <starenka> ok, did you get my question in the first place? remember katapult from kde3, right? this alt+f2 thing also launces apps etc. If i modify my menu, the 'thing" doen't know about the changes till i logout.
[18:45] <starenka> need to restart it or smhtng, but i dont know the process/app name
[18:46] <starenka> what didn;t work? updatedb
[18:46] <starenka> ;)
[18:46] <starenka> i mean updatedb finished ok, but no change in the launcher
[18:47] <BluesKaj> updatedb doesn't tell you anything , it just updates the database , that's all
[18:47] <starenka> and?
[18:48] <BluesKaj> the launcher wannabe katapult is somewhat unstable from the reports i've read
[18:48] <starenka> joking? it's in kde 4 ever since
[18:49] <BluesKaj> well, do some research then ..i don't use launchers , i just pin apps to the the panel
[18:49] <starenka> nevermind it's called krunner
[18:50] <starenka> just realized
[18:50] <starenka> cya thx
[18:50] <shadeslayer> lol
[18:50] <shadeslayer> starenka: bye :)
[18:50] <BluesKaj> oh for gawd's sake the run cmnd box ..  :)
[18:51] <BluesKaj> some ppl
[18:51] <shadeslayer> BluesKaj: i swear :P
[18:51] <BluesKaj> katapult ? wth?
[18:52] <BluesKaj> I assume ppl are using current kubuntu versions , so I forget about old apps
[19:02] <Espirito> Hi people? Somebody use DataBase Firebird here? I am having trouble installing with Synaptic and I'm not getting the command line with the package. Gz. Can anyone help me?
[19:02] <inteliwasp> i installed the nvidia drivers from the "hardware drivers" program and now i am unable to load kde, i get "fatal server error: no screens found"
[19:02] <shadeslayer> inteliwasp: oh just press alt+F2 and type ' konsole ' and hit enter
[19:03] <BluesKaj> Espirito, make sure all your package sources are enabled in synaptic
[19:03] <shadeslayer> inteliwasp: done? now type : sudo nvidia-xconfig --composite : to generate your xorg.conf
[19:03] <inteliwasp> shadeslayer: um.... i'm stuck on the tty logins.....
[19:03] <shadeslayer> inteliwasp: oh then just run that commadn
[19:03] <shadeslayer> *command
[19:03] <inteliwasp> kk
[19:03] <shadeslayer> inteliwasp: then reboot and voila!
[19:04] <BluesKaj> or just startx, inteliwasp
[19:04] <Espirito> BluesKaj: I marked all the packages on 2.1 for the server, but it's always the same error: that the package firebird2.1-server-common_<IP_ADDRESS>18-0.ds1-4_amd64.deb is broken.
[19:04] <shadeslayer> BluesKaj: that wont give him shutdown and reboot options
[19:04] <inteliwasp> shadeslayer: i get a validation error
[19:05] <shadeslayer> inteliwasp: can you pastebin it? ( install pastebinit )
[19:07] <BluesKaj> inteliwasp, perhaps stopping kdm/X first then sudo nvidi-xconfig might work ...sudo /etc/init.d/kdm stop then after config ' restart'
[19:10] <BluesKaj> err, sudo nvidia-xconfig
[19:10] <inteliwasp> BluesKaj: that did not work
[19:10] <inteliwasp> shadeslayer: i did not get a coutom url with pastebinit
[19:14] <BluesKaj> inteliwasp, did you do sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart , after sudo nvidia-xconfig ?
[19:15] <inteliwasp> BluesKaj: i still get the same error
[19:16] <inteliwasp> oh wait
[19:16] <inteliwasp> ...
[19:16]  * inteliwasp bangs head on table
[19:16] <shadeslayer> inteliwasp: you need to switch to tty 7
[19:18] <BluesKaj> shadeslayer, that'll work only if he had a desktop in the first place
[19:18] <inteliwasp> i gotta reboot, be back in a few
[19:22] <inteliwasp> the nvidia config did not work
[19:23] <BluesKaj> inteliwasp, which nvidia card ?
[19:23] <inteliwasp> BluesKaj: gforce 9800gt
[19:23] <inteliwasp> or gtx
[19:24] <shadeslayer> inteliwasp: hmm.. can you just run : sudo nvidia-xconfig : ?
[19:24] <inteliwasp> shadeslayer: let me try that...
[19:25] <inteliwasp> shadeslayer: it ran no errors
[19:26] <inteliwasp> still no joy on tty7
[19:26] <shadeslayer> inteliwasp: you need to do : sudo kdm
[19:26] <shadeslayer> after the nvidia-xconfig command
[19:26] <BluesKaj> inteliwasp, that card should run on the nvidia-current driver
[19:27] <inteliwasp> i ran "sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart"
[19:32] <BluesKaj> inteliwasp, drop to a tty ,stop kdm with sudo /etc/init.d/kdm stop  ,install the nvidia-current driver , do sudo nvidia-xconfig , then sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart
[19:35] <inteliwasp> BluesKaj: i used the builtin driver
[19:38] <shadeslayer> inteliwasp: nouveau?
[19:38] <shadeslayer> inteliwasp: may i suggest adding the xorg edgers PPA for 3D support on nvidia cards
[19:38] <inteliwasp> BluesKaj: nice, the nvidia driver site is not compatable with lynx
[19:40] <wander> olá
[19:40] <BluesKaj> inteliwasp, use the nvidia ppa as shadeslayer suggested , you must add it to your sources.list then sudo apt-get update before installing
[19:41] <inteliwasp> nvidia ppa?
[19:41] <BluesKaj> inteliwasp, yeah, check launchpad for the ppa
[19:42] <BluesKaj> BBL...stuff to do
[19:43] <shadeslayer> inteliwasp: its a nouveau ppa,the open source driver for nvidia cards
[19:43] <shadeslayer> inteliwasp: you can get it by just googling : xorg edgers ppa
[19:45] <inteliwasp> so i can't use the non opensorce drivers?
[19:45] <kosmonaut> did some1 succesfully try to use amarok + Iphone (ipod touch)?
[19:46] <inteliwasp> i am going to log back latter...
[19:57] <Guest38563> Hello
[19:57] <Guest38563> I am brand new on this kubuntu world
[19:58] <Guest38563> Is any body there
[19:58] <Guest38563> i am from Venezuela
[19:58] <kosmonaut> well...I am here ;-)
[19:59] <BluesKaj> !ask
[19:59] <Guest38563> Are you expert in kubuntu
[19:59] <Guest38563> ok thanks
[19:59] <claus> hello
[19:59] <claus> people
[20:00] <sidney_> my sound stopped working can someone decipher this terminal output for me
[20:01] <BluesKaj> !paste | sidney_
[20:01] <Guest38563> I want to know how instal a sound equalizer for Amarok
[20:02] <mischasworld> Guest38563: its onboard just look under extras
[20:02] <sidney_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/422348/
[20:04] <sidney_> BluesKaj: i have a sound blaster card installed
[20:04] <Guest38563> It is not available
[20:05] <mischasworld> which amarok version are you using?
[20:07] <Guest38563> It is KDE 4.3.2
[20:07] <Guest38563> Amarok KDE 4.3.2
[20:08] <mischasworld> have a look here : https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/amarok/+question/94599 you'll need kde 4.4
[20:08] <sidney_> how can i undo an update
[20:09] <mischasworld> for which package ?
[20:10] <sidney_> mischasworld: was that ? for me
[20:11] <pablo> perdonar el canal de ubunto en españl cual es?
[20:11] <pablo> ubuntu*
[20:11] <mischasworld> sorry sidney, i thought youwere guest38563
[20:12] <mischasworld> sidney: but you can try to download an older package version and install it manual
[20:14] <marco_xtml> hola
[20:14] <marco_xtml> #ubuntu
[20:14] <kosmonaut> sidney_: what pack. have you installed? And how?
[20:18] <Guest38563> Why google heart doesnt works properly with KDE Kubuntu. What can i do?
[20:19] <kosmonaut> google heart = google earth?
[20:24] <sidney_> kosmonaut: I have no idea i just allowed the update to takeplace now no sound
[20:25] <kosmonaut> sidney_: do you use 9.10 or 10.04?
[20:26] <sidney_> kosmonaut:  9.10
[20:26] <sidney_> kosmonaut:  I also just tried this  sudo apt-get install gnome-alsamixer
[20:27] <kosmonaut> to be honest. I don't know a way how to downgrade...sorry :-( But did you take a look at ubuntuforums? Maybe there is already a thread concering this issue...
[20:28] <kosmonaut> since this not a usual issue I guess that others may have the same problem (just a guess ;-))
[20:30] <sidney_> kosmonaut:  this is what i have found so far
[20:31] <sidney_> http://www.ubuntugeek.com/fix-for-no-sound-sound-blaster-audigy-after-upgrading-from-ubuntu-9-04-to-9-10.html
[20:31] <lontra> hi is it typically that kubuntu uses ~ 1.5 GB of RAM with only an quassel, konsole, and kate open?!?
[20:31] <BluesKaj> sidney_, sudo apt-get install alsa-base alsa-utils
[20:32] <BluesKaj> lontra, definitely not
[20:33] <sidney_> BluesKaj: it says alsa-base is already the newest version
[20:33] <lontra> well free -m is showing 1532 being used (-/+ buffers/cache)
[20:33] <jorgino> hello
[20:34] <jorgino> hello
[20:34] <jorgino> hello hello hello
[20:34] <jorgino> oh oh hello
[20:35] <BluesKaj> sidney_, open alsamixer , make sure all ctrls are up and not muted with a M in the ctrlbox, use the M key to unmute
[20:35] <jorgino> what im german im not speek englich
[20:36] <BluesKaj> !de | jorgino
[20:36] <sidney_> BluesKaj: i've dont that i'lll recheck
[20:37] <BluesKaj> sidney_, type alsamixer in the terminal
[20:40] <sidney_> BluesKaj: in the terminal it dosent list soundblaster @ all
[20:40] <BluesKaj> did you type , alsamixer ?
[20:40] <sidney_> yes
[20:42] <BluesKaj> ok sidney_ , lspci | grep audio
[20:42] <sidney_> BluesKaj:  in the terminal it list an nvidia card and a realtek chip
[20:43] <sidney_> 01:06.0 Multimedia audio controller: Creative Labs SB Audigy (rev 04)
[20:43] <BluesKaj> sidney_, copy and paste the output here pls
[20:43] <sidney_> BluesKaj: 01:06.0 Multimedia audio controller: Creative Labs SB Audigy (rev 04)
[20:44] <mudassar> hello people I want to install a general media (audio/video) player in kubuntu 9.10 that can play any audio video file ... (how can I configure codecs etc). Furthermore, how to integrate them with firefox like mms format is not recognized when I press a link on a webpage in firefox
[20:44] <BluesKaj> Creative Labs SB Audigy is your soundblaster card...I have that card on another pc, sidney_
[20:44] <mudassar> just let me one apt-get install package that can do all the work for me
[20:45] <BluesKaj> mudassar, VLC
[20:45] <mudassar> BluesKaj: Does it answer my all the questions ?
[20:45] <BluesKaj> mudassar, do you have kubuntu-restricted-extras installed as well as flashplugin-nonfree ?
[20:46] <mudassar> BluesKaj: how to check that ?
[20:46] <mudassar> I dont know
[20:47] <BluesKaj> mudassar, sudo apt-get install kubuntu-restricted-extras flashplugin-nonfree
[20:47] <mudassar> i have installed kubuntu-restricted-extras ... but flash player is already installed I mean I can see youtube
[20:47] <BluesKaj> or look in your package manager
[20:48] <mudassar> will flashplugin-nonfree conflict with my already install flash player for firefox ?
[20:48] <BluesKaj> nope
[20:48] <mudassar> installed *
[20:48] <mudassar> ok
[20:48] <BluesKaj> mudassar, that's what flashplugin is
[20:48] <mudassar> ok both are installed now
[20:48] <mudassar> now what to do ?
[20:49] <James147> BluesKaj: flashplugin-installer is replacing flashplugin-nonfree may as well jsut install it directly :)
[20:49] <mudassar> ok
[20:49] <BluesKaj> James147, it's a plugin
[20:49] <BluesKaj> mudassar, install vlc
[20:50] <luis_> hey there good afternoon all of you guys i like to ask how can i use my cel phone wich is a Motorola Z3 as a webcam is it possible? and if is so can someone refer me on how to do so please???
[20:50] <James147> BluesKaj: I know, but flashplugin-nonfree is just a transitional package that points to the installer
[20:51] <BluesKaj> James147, it points tom the player , if it's installed
[20:52] <mudassar> KMPlayer does not play anything
[20:52] <BluesKaj> usually the flashplayer installs by default
[20:52] <mudassar> furthermore i am still not able to run mms video from webpage link
[20:52] <BluesKaj> mudassar, did you try vlc ?
[20:52] <mudassar> apt-get install vlc  ?
[20:53] <BluesKaj> yes sudo apt-get install vlc
[20:53] <sidney_> vlc plays everything i've thrown at it
[20:53] <mudassar> it is installing
[20:54] <BluesKaj> well, web apps are different and are troublesome in some browsers , depends what you use
[20:54] <mudassar> it plays the video that i select from desktop
[20:55] <mudassar> but sill no luck with mms video on webpage link
[20:55] <BluesKaj> mudassar, which browser?
[20:56] <mudassar> firefox ........ is there any other browser in kubuntu ? (besides its own)
[20:56] <BluesKaj> mudassar, I use chromium , but post the site so i can test it
[20:57] <mudassar> http://www.geo.tv/stream/index.html
[20:58] <mudassar> it is in my native language but just press the link that is blinking
[20:58] <mudassar> it says, "firefox does not know how to open this ............"
[21:05] <luis_> so is there someone in here that knows how to use a cellphone as a webcam? i have a motorola z3 en kubuntu 8.04
[21:29] <xephexx> has anybody else had anybody else had a problem with ktorrent?I am running kubuntu 9.10
[21:31] <BluesKaj> xephexx, describe your problem in more detail pls
[21:34] <BluesKaj> xephexx, describe your problem in more detail pls
[21:48] <patarok> hello!
[21:50] <patarok> could somebody tell me why nvidia-settings cant save my current settings to disc?
[21:50] <patarok> please help....
[21:51] <patarok> it is so annoying to set X the way i want it everytime i boot up my pc.
[21:51] <patarok> im on lucid.
[21:53] <patarok> #ubuntu+1
[21:56] <James147> patarok: you need to run it as root to save the settings (kdesudo nvidia-settings)
[22:00] <BluesKaj> patarok, in the terminal: sudo nvidia-xconfig
[22:01] <James147> BluesKaj: kdesudo is prefured over sudo for graphical applications... not entirly sure why
[22:04] <BluesKaj> James147, kdesudo is used in the run box alt+f2 , aks krunner, not the terminal
[22:04] <BluesKaj> err aka
[22:05] <James147> BluesKaj: it can be run in both... but have heard it is better for graphical applications so tend to use for them... again not entirly sure why
[22:06] <BluesKaj> James147, kdesudo invokes a graphical interface , not required for use in the terminal
[22:07] <James147> BluesKaj: not entirly...http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/graphicalsudo
[22:07] <BluesKaj> James147, this discussion is interfering with helping patarok
[22:08] <BluesKaj> James147, does it really matter or are you just trolling for minor differences
[22:08] <BluesKaj> ?
[22:09] <James147> BluesKaj: It matter some of the time... as "There are other times, though, when side effects can be as mild as Firefox extensions not sticking or as extreme as as not being able to log in any more because the permissions on your .ICEauthority changed."
[22:10] <patarok> i thought i tried that before but the sudo nvidia-xconfig seems to have done the job... a fat THX at James147
[22:10] <James147> BluesKaj: Not trying to troll, just dont think its a good idea to suggest useing sudo when 'some' of the time it can go badly
[22:10] <patarok> THX
[22:10] <patarok> THX
[22:11] <patarok> good bye ill try to restart and look if things keep cool.
[22:11] <BluesKaj> well James147, I've never encountered that problem , so I'm not going to change my advice ...you merely confuse ppl by bringing up this issue which almost never happens as the writer on the page admits
[22:12] <James147> BluesKaj: I have had problems with premission on .ICEauthority before and not being able to log in without changing the premissions back... but havnet had that issue now i use kdesudo
[22:13] <James147> BluesKaj: I am more conserned about the few ppl that encounter the problem that wont know how to fix it and wont beable to log in if it happens. I don't think useing kdesudo instead os sudo is that more confusing
[22:14] <marcosroriz> does lts also apply to kubuntu?
[22:14] <James147> marcosroriz: ??
[22:14] <marcosroriz> because 8.04 wasnt
[22:14] <James147> marcosroriz: ahh, LTS? yes, but the last version that was lts for ubuntu (8.04) wasent for kubuntu
[22:15] <BluesKaj> well now so kdesudo is the new sudo ...is that what you are saying? we have to change almost 15 yrs of commands in the terminal due to an authentication bug?
[22:15] <marcosroriz> this version will be?
[22:15] <James147> BluesKaj: no, just advise to use it for graphical applications... I still use it for command line apps
[22:16] <James147> marcosroriz: 10.04 should be a lts, i think the reason 8.04 wasent was because kde 4.x wasent stable enough and 3.5 was reaching end of life over the life span of an lts
[22:17] <James147> BluesKaj: still use sudo for commandline that is ^^
[22:17] <BluesKaj> I haven't had any problems so i'm not changing . All the tutorials I've read still use sudo , except the one you pointed out.
[22:26] <BluesKaj> James147, why are they using kdesu instead of kdesudo on that page you posted , there's no expalanation
[22:27] <James147> BluesKaj: kdesudo and kdesu are two slightly different programs that basically do the same thing
[22:27] <BluesKaj> anyway , i have no more time for this ...got other stuff to do
[22:27] <James147> BluesKaj: I think kubuntu adpoted kdesudo back when kdesu had some issues with it
[22:29] <BluesKaj> kdesudo was encouraged for the krunner / run command ...maybe they should have mentioned this issue at the time
[22:31] <James147> BluesKaj: I assumed it was encourged for graphical applications in general incase a user encounters the problems with sudo
[23:55] <ForgeAus> isn't there a CD vers of Kubuntu anymore this is a 3 gig d/l!
[23:55] <ForgeAus> for 9.10
[23:55] <Typos_King> hahhe
[23:56] <Typos_King> wha?    of course there's
[23:56] <Typos_King> they have cd and dvd, you must be looking at the dvd one :)
[23:56] <ForgeAus> I am
[23:56] <ForgeAus> but couldn't find a link to CD one
[23:56] <Typos_King> gimme a sec
[23:56] <ForgeAus> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/releases/9.10/release/ only has DVD
[23:57] <ForgeAus> wait found it
[23:57] <ForgeAus> http://releases.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/karmic/
[23:58] <ForgeAus> 683mb, much better
[23:59] <Typos_King> heheh


[03:00] <epsmith> Hey all.  I have a fresh install of studio 9.1 and want to fully ugrade to 10.04 anyone now a good document that instructs how to do this
[03:00] <holstein> hey epsmith
[03:00] <holstein> pretty much
[03:00] <holstein> you just run the update manager
[03:01] <epsmith> hi holstein
[03:01] <holstein> system - administration - update manager
[03:01] <holstein> you should have an 'alert' at the top
[03:01] <holstein> that says 'distrobution update available'
[03:01] <holstein> or something like that
[03:02] <holstein> if not
[03:02] <holstein> in the update-manager window
[03:02] <holstein> there is a settings button
[03:02] <epsmith> ok.  I didn't know if it needed a cli upgrade with apt-get or not.  Will the update manager pick up the change to the /etc/apt/sources.list for the studio stuff?
[03:02] <holstein> epsmith: that depends
[03:02] <holstein> do you have a lot of custom repos?
[03:03] <epsmith> nope.  its a fresh ubuntu install.  I haven't even activated the backports
[03:03] <holstein> either way
[03:03] <holstein> the end result is going to be the same
[03:04] <holstein> and if your mostly default you *should* have no problems
[03:04] <holstein> you do have to answer a few questions along the way
[03:04] <holstein> and it takes quite a while
[03:04] <epsmith> ok good.  should I turn on backports and canonical?
[03:05] <holstein> BUT i ran about 4 upgrades
[03:05] <holstein> and all went well
[03:05] <holstein> epsmith: you shouldnt need to enable anything extra
[03:05] <holstein> i would just run it
[03:05] <epsmith> ok.  well I'm updating 9.1 to current right now and then will do the upgrade to 10.4 before I go to bed.
[03:05] <holstein> you'll be migrating to new repos anyways
[03:06] <epsmith> thanks for your help holstein
[03:06] <epsmith> later man
[03:06] <holstein> anytime
[03:06] <holstein> good luck :)
[04:38] <zus> hey holstein
[09:20] <Traveler5> how do i get better connections over wifi?
[09:56] <Traveler5> are there better drivers for my linksys wifi adapter?
[10:16] <Traveler5> is ubuntu un supported?
[11:04] <xuco> hi all!
[11:04] <xuco> this is the final XAG event program -> http://gpul.org/?q=node/122
[11:04] <xuco> excuse me for the spam
[11:04] <xuco> i hope you can attend
[12:56] <Traveler5> is there a better wifi driver then the one i have? rt2500?
[14:46] <Traveler5> are there better drivers for my linksys wifi ?


[08:51] <qt> hello all
[08:51] <qt> I've a problem with my project on Launchpad
[08:52] <qt> I had a commercial subscription which has expired on March, 23th
[08:52] <qt> and now, I can't push a new branch on this project
[08:54] <qt> A ticket was opened to fix the problem (#31200) but I come to you today because this project is for a professional purpose and I need the possibility to push new branches on this project.
[08:55] <qt> Anyone can help me ?
[08:57] <czajkowski> project needs to be made active again
[08:57] <czajkowski> you will also need to change the licence
[08:57] <czajkowski> qt what is the name of the project please
[08:58] <qt> unifield-wm
[08:58] <czajkowski> wgrant / stevenk could one of you please make that project active. currently not at desktop
[08:59] <czajkowski> qt are yiubgoing to buy anothher commercial voucher
[08:59] <czajkowski> ?
[09:00] <qt> no, the project is now open source and I don't want to buy another commercial subscription
[09:00] <czajkowski> ok once its active again yiubwill need to change licence.
[09:01] <qt> The licence is already 'GNU Affero GPL v3'
[09:03] <czajkowski> well if wgrant or stevenk cant get to it I will do it shortly
[09:03] <qt> ok, thanks a lot
[09:06] <qt> plus, I feel some configurations are lost (code hosting, branding…)
[09:06] <qt> Is there a possibility to revert that or I should configure again the project ?
[09:10] <czajkowski> nothing should be lost qt
[09:11] <czajkowski> like isaid it's inactive  it just needs to be made active however i am currently not at my desktop
[09:12] <qt> ok
[10:21] <czajkowski> qt: your project is active
[10:25] <qt> thanks czajkowski, but the configuration has been lost !
[10:26] <czajkowski> I'm not sure what you mean tbh.
[10:28] <qt> on https://code.launchpad.net/unifield-wm i have this message : "A development focus branch hasn't been specified, set it now." while it was configured in the past
[10:33] <czajkowski> qt: https://launchpad.net/unifield-wm/trunk/+setbranch
[10:43] <qt> thanks, but it does mean that we have lost all series and milestones configuration !
[10:43] <qt> and need reconfigure all of them
[10:53] <czajkowski> I've not seen that happen before but I'll ask wgrant or StevenK if this is known since you had a commercial ac before hand
[10:58] <qt> ok, thanks for your support
[16:13] <jonrafkind> I have been getting launchpad chroot build errors on maverick and karmick for a while: https://launchpadlibrarian.net/135181576/buildlog_ubuntu-maverick-i386.racket_<IP_ADDRESS>-20130325~maverick_CHROOTWAIT.txt.gz
[16:15] <dobey> jonrafkind: maverick and karmic have not been supported for a while. you should disable any builds you have configured to run on them
[16:15] <jonrafkind> so why are they options in launchpad
[16:16] <dobey> jonrafkind: they aren't. they only look like options if you already had them selected while they were supported. if you disable them, they should no longer appear as options
[16:16] <dobey> (i do agree that the lack of obviousness/automatedness of all that is annoying though)
[16:16] <jonrafkind> which distros should i disable
[16:17] <jonrafkind> i mean whats the last supported one
[16:18] <dobey> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases
[16:20] <dobey> 11.10 will EOL next month. i guess 10.04 will still work on launchpad as server won't be EOL (but desktop will). precise will be active for 4 more years still. quantal for another year, and raring for another ~10 months
[16:20] <jonrafkind> the narwhal build still somehow works even though its EOL
[16:20] <jonrafkind> im guessing maverick and karmick just happen to not work due to some misconfiguration error rather than someone explicitly flipping some switch
[16:21] <dobey> no, maverick and karmic don't work because the archive has been deleted off the server. i guess maybe that hasn't happened yet for natty. when it does though then build failures will happen for anything configured to build on natty on launchpad
[16:22] <jonrafkind> ok
[16:34] <crass> anyone know why https://code.launchpad.net/~crass/libtorrent/trunk is saying its importing changes, but no changes are found?
[16:40] <dobey> crass: https://launchpadlibrarian.net/135215599/crass-libtorrent-trunk.log
[16:41] <dobey> crass: i think you need to use the git:// URL for github branches. iirc there's a problem with using https, because github wants a specific user-agent value from git, which is not what bzr uses.
[16:47] <crass> thanks dobey, I'll try that
[16:49] <crass> maybe that UA requirement is newish, because as you can see it was importing before
[16:57] <crass> and any ideas why https://code.launchpad.net/~vcs-imports/grub/grub2-bzr says updating branch? it seems to be stuck there
[17:48] <dobey> crass: it seems the mirror is broken so perhaps it caused the branch scanner to fail on that branch for some reason
[17:49] <dobey> crass: yeah, not sure why it was imported before. but the checks are grey, not green. not sure what that means either
[22:02] <Luke-Jr> trying to upload to my PPA - I don't use a Debian-related distro though.. don't seem to get any reaction from LP
[22:02] <Luke-Jr> can anyone check the PPA server and see what I'm doing wrong, or is there any advice for uploading PPA stuff manually?
[22:02] <Luke-Jr> I'm just sftp put'ing the .dsc .tbz2 and .changes files
[22:28] <Luke-Jr> using dput itself seems to be ignored as well :/
[22:29] <StevenK> If your upload is unsigned, it will seem to be ignored because Launchpad can't work out who to mail.
[22:30] <Luke-Jr> it's signed
[22:30] <StevenK> And Launchpad knows about the key it's signed with?
[22:32] <StevenK> 2013-03-25 22:30:11 INFO    Failed to parse changes file '/srv/launchpad.net/ppa
[22:32] <StevenK> -queue/incoming/upload-ftp-20130325-222706-003570/~luke-jr/bfgminer/ubuntu/bfgmi
[22:32] <StevenK> ner_2.10.5-0precise1.changes': Signing key E463A93F5F3117EEDE6C7316BD02942421F48
[22:32] <StevenK> 89F not registered in launchpad.
[22:33] <Luke-Jr> oh, LP only has my old key
[22:33]  * Luke-Jr tries again
[22:35] <Luke-Jr> direct sftp seems to ignored still.. trying dput/ftp now
[22:35] <Luke-Jr> hrm Package has already been uploaded to bfgminer on ppa.launchpad.net
[22:35] <StevenK> That's dput saying it's already uploaded it
[22:35] <StevenK> dput -f
[22:36] <Luke-Jr> any idea what went wrong with the sftp?
[22:38] <StevenK> If you just put three files in the root, that.
[22:38] <StevenK> You need to make directories and make sure they're named correctly, so LP can work out which PPA you're targetting.
[22:39] <Luke-Jr> put bfgminer_2.10.5-0precise1.dsc ~luke-jr/bfgminer/ubuntu/bfgminer_2.10.5-0precise1.dsc
[22:41] <StevenK> I've not seen another upload in the logs.
[22:42] <Luke-Jr> dput finished and still no reaction :/
[22:43] <StevenK> The upload processor runs every five minutes, it isn't instant.
[22:43] <Luke-Jr> I see.
[22:46] <Luke-Jr> hmm, I really need to reupload the files for every arch? :/
[22:47] <StevenK> No, your arch should be 'source'
[22:47] <StevenK> bfgminer_2.10.5-0precise1_source.changes
[22:48] <Luke-Jr> aha
[22:49] <Luke-Jr> StevenK: are the source files deleted after each build, or can I use the same tbz2 for multiple releases?
[22:51] <StevenK> Luke-Jr: If your upload only has two files, you're probably aren't going to convince LP to do so. If you have .orig.tar.gz (or bz2 or whatever), then it can referenced by multiple releases, as long as it isn't rebuilt (IE: it has the same checksum and contents)
[22:52] <Luke-Jr> StevenK: is ~luke-jr the standard /home/luke-jr (can I use the latter if I end up with a FTP client that only supports absolute paths)?
[22:53] <StevenK> It is not
[22:54] <StevenK> Your client is chrooted on connection, so it's /~luke-jr
[22:54] <Luke-Jr> k
[23:09] <Luke-Jr> StevenK: any idea what that last error was about? pretty sure I uploaded the files it's saying are missing
[23:26] <Luke-Jr> StevenK: also getting part of the error from dput :/
[23:44] <StevenK> 2013-03-25 23:40:25 DEBUG   Unable to identify file bfgminer-2.10.5-0precise1_so
[23:44] <StevenK> urce.tbz2 (misc) in changes.
[23:45] <StevenK> Luke-Jr: How did you make this source package? LP is quite strict about what it expects.
[23:48] <wgrant> This isn't just LP
[23:48] <wgrant> This is dpkg


[12:36] <brendand> does anyone know if /var/log/installer/debug should be created by server installs, or is it an artifact of ubiquity only?
[12:36] <xnox> brendand: as far as i know, that's a ubiquity only artifact.
[12:39] <brendand> xnox, thanks


[00:03] <stieg> so also if anyone has an idea on how to get rid of the reboot dialogue that would be awesome.
[00:04] <stieg> So far "ubiquity ubiquity/reboot true" & "d-i finish-install/reboot_in_progress note" are not working anymore


[19:21] <bkerensa> Ubuntu UK Podcast live in 10 mins - http://podcast.ubuntu-uk.org/
[19:46] <tgm4883> bkerensa, the website lists next live show in 43 minutes
[19:50] <bkerensa> tgm4883: I think they delayed it
[19:50] <bkerensa> they didnt tell me till I was joined
[19:51] <bkerensa> so it should be on in a few minutes I think
[20:03] <bkerensa> tgm4883:  there it is now http://podcast.ubuntu-uk.org:8000/uupc.mp3
[20:03] <bkerensa> nathwill: ^ much fail to listen too
[20:07] <nathwill> woot!