[00:00] <Photocopy> biovore: Good point, but do you know if KDE would accept it if I edited the icon to be a rectangle? Cause the icons it use now are perfect squares
[00:00] <kyron> Ah...other kernel works...
[00:00] <Photocopy> profoX` I am not that skilled haha
[00:00] <kyron> so the kernel upgrade failed and I was left with a dead system...hmm... not good..meh!
[00:00] <Tm_T> Photocopy: icons can be in any shape
[00:00] <biovore> Photocopy: the png loader should handel.. there square because thats what makes sense.. the hard requirement for it..
[00:00] <Photocopy> Tm_T I know that, but will the panel scrunch it into a square?
[00:01] <Photocopy> biovore: Thanks.. ill try looking for those icon
[00:01] <biovore> The only other way would to do some coding..
[00:01] <Tm_T> Photocopy: no
[00:02] <Tm_T> Photocopy: if you mean cropping
[00:02] <Photocopy> Tm_T I actually meant "squishing" for my lack of a better term
[00:02] <Tm_T> Photocopy: scaling?
[00:02] <Photocopy> like it being stretched
[00:02] <Photocopy> yeah scaled into a square
[00:02] <kat> Hi folks... still sorting out how repositories work:  if I'm using 6.06 and want to install the latest version of K3B is there an easy way to do with with a GUI?
[00:03] <Photocopy> why are you using 6.06?
[00:03] <biovore> well you get whats in the repos
[00:03] <Photocopy> there is newer stable.... >_>
[00:03] <Tm_T> Photocopy: well no, it will be scaled to fit to room it has to use, but no, it wont be reshaped
[00:03] <biovore> 6.06 is long term support..
[00:03] <Photocopy> good
[00:03] <profoX`> kat: I would just keep the version that's available if you choose to keep 6.06
[00:03] <biovore> ^ that stable
[00:03] <biovore> 7.10 is a short term release..
[00:03] <kat> I'm scared about upgrading :(
[00:03] <Tm_T> yes
[00:03] <hydrogen> its good to be scared about upgrading
[00:04] <Photocopy> upgrading is a snap... ive done it... once
[00:04] <Tm_T> kat: with gui you said?
[00:04] <biovore> I have computers using 6.06 here..
[00:04] <Photocopy> lol
[00:04] <kat> i'm guessing it's not kosher to start using feisty repositories while on dapper...
[00:04] <Tm_T> kat: not in easy way unfortunately
[00:05] <Tm_T> kat: and no, you're not supported to jump over versions :(
[00:05] <CPrompt^> kat : don't use Feisty repos on dapper.  you'll break something i'm sure ;)
[00:05] <kat> i've got synaptic and adept... so i guess if i want to test out the new version of k3b, my best best is download source, make and install?
[00:05] <hydrogen> it may not even compile
[00:06] <kat> hrm
[00:06] <CPrompt^> kat : what version of K3B do you have now?
[00:06] <kat> any other decent burning software out there?
[00:06] <CPrompt^> nope
[00:06] <hydrogen> cdrecord :)
[00:06] <kat> current version of k3b is 0.12.something
[00:06] <CPrompt^> not in my book anyway ;)
[00:06] <Tm_T> kat: arson (very simple)
[00:06] <kat> i dunno, just uninstalled it
[00:06] <kat> might not fix probs though, having permission issues... the auto conifiguring tool in k3b didn't fix it either
[00:07] <vzduch> kat: apt-cache show k3b
[00:07] <vzduch> shows details about the pkg
[00:07] <kat> neato thanks... 0.12.14
[00:08] <kat> learn a new command every day
[00:08] <star> Are there any program like virtualbox and vmware that can run 3d-effects?
[00:08] <biovore> if you linux for another 10 years.. might learn them all..
[00:08] <biovore> Its kinda like pokenmon.. lolz
[00:08] <star> Are there any program like virtualbox and vmware that can run 3d-effects?
[00:09] <biovore> nope..
[00:09] <vzduch> !repeat | star
[00:09] <ubotu> star: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com  http://wiki.ubuntu.com http://www.ubuntuforums.org or http://www.kubuntuforums.net while you wait. Also see !patience
[00:09] <kyron> vzduch, > :P
[00:10] <kyron> vzduch, http://www.blender.org/
[00:10] <kat> hmmm... arson doesn't do DVD... cuz what i want to do is data... 2nd hard drive is getting smaller very very quickly
[00:10] <kat> ?
[00:10] <patxi> anybody knows how can I use qt-jambi?
[00:11] <CPrompt^> kat : maybe tell us what you are wanting to do and what is going wrong? ;)
[00:11] <kyron> how do I unlock the apt database...the apt_manager crashed earlyer (rebooted since!)
[00:11] <vzduch> !aptfix | kyron
[00:11] <ubotu> kyron: If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »
[00:11] <CPrompt^> kat : sounds like you are wanting to backup your second hard drive?  Can you access your second hard drive?  Read and write?
[00:12] <kat> k3b won't burn dvds, don't know if it does cds anymore... ran out of cds, only have dvds left to try... error message says something about permissions... hold on I'll find details to post
[00:12] <kyron> vzduch, thanks ;) ...oh..clender wasn't for you...
[00:12] <kyron> blender that is
[00:12] <kyron> star, http://www.blender.org/
[00:13] <Jucato> kyron: hm.... I don't think that was what star was looking for
[00:13] <vzduch> kyron: blender is not a virtualization software..
[00:14] <kyron> hey he wants 3D ...hehehe
[00:14] <vzduch> good night folks :)
[00:15] <Monkii> blender rocks
[00:15]  * kyron looks back and is astound at how people waste resources to the point of virtualising an OS that shouldn't be called one.
[00:15] <Monkii> lol
[00:15] <kat> problem here: http://members.shaw.ca/katherinescrupa/extras/dvd.txt
[00:15] <Monkii> "Virtualized evil"?
[00:16] <kyron> Monkii, yeah...that way you can try to convince me it's not _real_ evil
[00:16] <kyron> it's only faked
[00:16] <biovore> There is also emulated evil..
[00:16] <Monkii> @ kyron - We'll get you my pretty... and your little dog, too!
[00:16] <kyron> dpkg --configure -a << does this sorta ..... oh forget it..I am happy now, back to a console... man dpkg :P
[00:17] <renato> can someone help me get desktop effects on kubuntu 7.10
[00:17] <biovore> !compiz
[00:17] <ubotu> Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion
[00:17] <kyron> Monkii, take the dogs...all of em!...couldn't care less
[00:17] <kyron> :P
[00:17] <Monkii> to quote WINE "an evil 'application layer'..."
[00:17] <kyron> mweheheh...true
[00:18] <kyron> WINE <- a package that describes it's user's request for existence through it's name
[00:19] <Monkii> My brains hurting just thinking about that one...
[00:20] <kyron> Monkii, MWAHAHAHAHHA!
[00:20] <Monkii> @renato - I just installed the Nvidia / ATI driver with restricted-manager-kde and then installed compiz and emerald. Run by typing compiz --replace
[00:20] <kyron> *sigh*... I don't have one machine working correctly with Kubuntu as of now... thought this was supposed to be easy
[00:21] <kyron> Monkii, NVIDIA/ATI driver...uhm...eh...
[00:21] <Monkii> ... speaking of evil...
[00:21] <kat> k3b wants to change cd and dvd drive permissions from 660 to 666 (root.cdrom)... and the only other changes are for cdrecord... both want to change from 4754 root.cdrom to  755 root.root.... are those right?
[00:22] <kyron> Monkii, we have a theme going here
[00:22] <biovore> kat: sounds about right..
[00:22] <kat> hmmm, gonna give this another try...
[00:23] <Monkii> *sigh* Can't wait for a decent open source ATI driver... and KDE 4(.1)
[00:23] <SUka> 1236
[00:26] <kyron> Monkii, we all dream of that world
[00:26] <kat> burning... well not really, now it's just counting, but not actually doing any progress... this is new
[00:26] <k5ubuntu> hey i need help setting up a good but not the best graphics for kubuntu because i have ati internal graphics and it wont work on compiz its too taggy
[00:26] <k5ubuntu> laggy*
[00:27] <k5ubuntu> any recomendations?
[00:27] <kat> asking me for a empty/appendable dvd... it is empty... ok fine, i'll put in a new one..
[00:28] <wilson__> is nvidia still better than ati for now ?
[00:29] <k5ubuntu>  yes
[00:29]  * wilson__ shrugs
[00:29] <k5ubuntu> ati is really laggy
[00:29] <k5ubuntu> plus nvidia is a better graphics card
[00:29] <wilson__> i have an nvidia 7300 based card, didnt cost much, does the job
[00:29] <biovore> ati drivers havn't been very good..
[00:29] <biovore> don't know about the lastest ones..
[00:29] <k5ubuntu> saying that ati comes from amd its crappy even intel beats ati in internal graphics
[00:30] <k5ubuntu> right here i have a dell latitude 131l from my buisness i have ati graphics it wont even work with compiz
[00:31] <k5ubuntu>  vista rates my internal ati at 2.9 for score the processor 2.9
[00:31] <k5ubuntu> 3.9*
[00:31] <kat> dammit... well here's the output of that experiment http://members.shaw.ca/katherinescrupa/extras/k3bdebug1.txt
[00:31] <kat> i guess i'll fire off an email to the k3b list
[00:32] <k5ubuntu> i have no clue
[00:32] <k5ubuntu> im looking at it thats wierd
[00:33] <wilson__> kat: seems to be saying there's no media in the drive or something
[00:33] <begert_> Media Change: Please insert the disc labeled 'Kubuntu 7.10 _Gutsy Gibbon_ - Alpha i386 (20070823)' in the drive '/cdrom/' and press [Enter].
[00:33] <begert_> anyone else get this when they try to update?
[00:33] <Angelus> this guide is confusing me, can someone tell me  which i need to get , apt-get source or apt-get install linux-source, to compile a kernel like the ubuntu one with restricted modules and everything?
[00:33] <k5ubuntu> ye
[00:33] <k5ubuntu> yes
[00:33] <k5ubuntu> me
[00:34] <begert_> and hows that going for ya?
[00:34] <Jucato> !kernel | Angelus
[00:34] <ubotu> Angelus: kernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux') - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel.  You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild.  Also, see !stages
[00:34] <wilson__> kat: trying making the iso with k3b , and burning it with wodim instead .  wodim [iso filename] dev=/dev/hdc
[00:35] <Jucato> begert_: perhaps you still have the cdrom repository enabled. in Adept Manager, go to the Adept Menu -> Manage Repositories and disable the cdrom repository
[00:35] <Jucato> (should be in the Third party software tab)
[00:35] <k5ubuntu> you know what im going to try, xubuntu its like a crossover between ubuntu and kubuntu
[00:35] <Angelus> ok
[00:36] <Angelus> is there a way to make adept look for sources? like "apt-get source " ?
[00:36] <begert_> let me check Jucato
[00:36] <Jucato> Angelus: currently? nope
[00:36] <Angelus> ok
[00:36] <k5ubuntu> hey does anybody know good desktop effects that work with ati
[00:36] <k5ubuntu> like not as good as compiz
[00:37] <kat> wilson_: i'm not burning software, don't want iso... got avi's and other junk
[00:38] <purpleposeidon> no, "install compiz" does NOT mean "install compiz and metacity"! >:O
[00:38] <kat> heh
[00:38] <kat> that's one of the reasons i switched to linux :)
[00:38] <k5ubuntu> !find effects
[00:38] <ubotu> Found: heroes-sound-effects, r-cran-effects
[00:38] <k5ubuntu> !find desktop effects!
[00:38] <ubotu> Found: desktop-base, desktop-file-utils, edubuntu-desktop, edubuntu-desktop-kde, gnome-desktop-data (and 45 others)
[00:39] <k5ubuntu> !find desktop effects
[00:39] <k5ubuntu> ?
[00:39] <k5ubuntu> !find effects
[00:39] <ubotu> Found: heroes-sound-effects, r-cran-effects
[00:39] <k5ubuntu> ........
[00:39] <k5ubuntu> omg
[00:39] <wilson__> yeah with k3b you can choose 'only create image' and then click on the image tab and save it to whatever file you want like stuff.iso
[00:39] <k5ubuntu> !find desktop effect
[00:39] <ubotu> Found: desktop-base, desktop-file-utils, edubuntu-desktop, edubuntu-desktop-kde, gnome-desktop-data (and 45 others)
[00:40] <k5ubuntu> jesus
[00:40] <k5ubuntu> !patience | k5ubuntu
[00:40] <Angelus> ok , apt-get source linux-source gave me an empy linux-meta folder with a debian folder and debian config, isntt' this too empty for a kernel source? and got downloaded in 2secs
[00:40] <wilson__> then you can use wodim on the command line ... wodim stuff.iso dev=/dev/hdd
[00:40] <kyron> dpkg --configure -a gives me an error at the end on 4 packages: acpid acpi-support powermanagement-interface and kubuntu-desktop.... what shall I do now O_o
[00:42] <begert_> thanks Jucato, that did it ;)
[00:44] <kat> k wilson_ , i'll give that a try
[00:44] <kyron> anyone...where should I go from here...re-install the errounous packages?
[00:45] <juan> !broadcom
[00:45] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[00:48] <kat> well it's burning the image now
[00:49] <Monkii> @kron - I've found that doing a sudo apt-get update, then apt-get upgrade, then dpkg --configure -a again often fixes things
[00:50] <Monkii> Often it's just that it couldn't install something the first time around
[00:50] <Monkii> (kron = kyron ;-)
[00:51] <juan> which driver do i want bcm43xx/bcm43xx-mac80211 or where should i ask?
[00:51] <kyron> Monkii, ah thanks...that's the magic procedure... see.. me being under GEntoo for the past 5 years must have turned my brains to mush :P
[00:51] <snipz> hey guys was wondering does the live cd allow accessing of ntfs partitioned drives?
[00:51] <kyron> Monkii, actually...these 4 packages are complaining about unresolved dependancies....
[00:52] <Monkii> Ah Gentoo... the dark horse in the linux race!
[00:52] <kyron> Monkii, mweheheh
[00:52] <kyron> may I paste my errors to you?
[00:52] <Monkii> sure
[00:53] <wilson__> weird, guess it is something to do with k3b then maybe
[00:53] <wilson__> you are using rewitables are you kat ?
[00:53] <kyron> Monkii, yeah, it's french, I am setting this up for a friend from France
[00:53] <kyron> Monkii, anything fammiliar to you
[00:54] <Monkii> Hmmm... mon francais c'est terrible...
[00:55] <Monkii> and what happens when you apt-get install those 4 packages?
[00:55] <wilson__> when is the next gentoo coming out 2700.0 was april
[00:55] <wilson__> 1007.0 i mean
[00:56] <wilson__> god, 2007.0
[00:56] <kyron> Monkii, ...uhm...euh...let's TRY! :P
[00:56] <Monkii> ok! hang on...
[00:57] <Monkii> @kyron - Do you have any manually configured packages?
[00:57] <Monkii> Sometimes they can get in the way...
[00:59] <Angelus> is it posible to run "make menuconfig" to edit one of the configs in debian/config/arch/ ?
[00:59] <dave> how do you format a hard drive in kubuntu?
[01:03] <BluesKaj> dave, do you want to format a different partition ?
[01:03] <kyron> Monkii, LOL...nope, I just started installing Kubnuntu yesterday..
[01:03] <kyron> Monkii, it tells me the packages don't exist...which I would doubt...
[01:04] <kyron> so "re-sync" the package tree I shall do!
[01:04] <dave> blueskaj, d drivee
[01:04] <alyx-trust> hey room
[01:05] <BluesKaj> dave, to what file system , ntfs or ext3 orr... ?
[01:05] <dave> blueskaj,ntfs
[01:06] <softmaster> hi
[01:06] <softmaster> my kde doesnt start automatiacally
[01:07] <softmaster> i have to start it manually everytime i logon
[01:07] <dave> blueskaj, can i do it through dolphin?
[01:07] <BluesKaj> dave, I don't format from kubuntu ...I use gparted  bootable live cd for resizing and formatting partitions
[01:07] <dave> blueskaj, i am not that advanced
[01:08] <kyron> Monkii, ...no success..my problem starts at acpid not wanting to start...could it be that I rebooted with the broken kernel (older one) ?
[01:08] <dope> when i boot from the live cd it just says "no emulation" and then says isolinux 3.36 debian-2007-08-30 and then does nothing
[01:08] <dope> what's up with that
[01:10] <dave> blueskaj, you mean i have to burn a cd just to format a drive???
[01:10] <mneptok> dave: gparted
[01:11] <BluesKaj> dave download and burn gparted live cd , it's very straightforward and quite easy to use ...I was a newb once and was able to use it ...the only problem is if you already have kubunti installed ,then installing windows will wipe out the bootloader grub menu and you won't be able to boot into kubuntu ...it's always better to install windows first , then kubuntu
[01:11] <dave> is that linux software?
[01:11] <mneptok> yes
[01:11] <dope> when i boot from the live cd it just says "no emulation" and then says isolinux 3.36 debian-2007-08-30 and then does nothing
[01:11] <mneptok> sudo apt-get install gparted
[01:11] <dave> blueskaj, theres no windows involved
[01:12] <BluesKaj> ntfs is windows
[01:12] <dave> blueskaj its a kubuntu install computer
[01:13] <dave> linux reads ntfs
[01:13] <BluesKaj> then why ntfs ?
[01:13] <BluesKaj> yes
[01:13] <dave> safer format
[01:13] <dave> than fat 32
[01:13] <dope> when i boot from the live cd it just says "no emulation" and then says isolinux 3.36 debian-2007-08-30 and then does nothing
[01:14] <BluesKaj> ok ,so you're just going to store files there ?
[01:14] <dave> yes
[01:14] <softmaster> my kde doesnt start automatiacally i have to start it manually everytime i logon
[01:15] <softmaster> any solution
[01:15] <softmaster> ?
[01:15] <BluesKaj> well dave, gparted is till a good idea ...it's nice to have around
[01:16] <dave> il look into it later,thanks
[01:17] <hagabaka> i couldn't use the parted on kubuntu feisty live CD to resize an ext3 partition because it had "unsupported features". does anyone know if the one in gutsy fixes the problem?
[01:20] <lophyte> hey all.. I just installed Gutsy, and for some reason all my menu items look like "_: Entries in K-menu:" and a long string, rather than the actual name of the app.. has this happened to anyone else?
[01:21] <cosenal> hi
[01:21] <cosenal> a weird thing is happened
[01:21] <dave> guess im not going to get my question answered here. guess ill search elsewhere :(
[01:22] <cosenal> all of a sudden my knetowrkmanager says: No active device
[01:23] <morphinex> hey folks, where can I get a working pidgin 2.2.2 package for gutsy?
[01:23] <cosenal> it's weird because it have been always working
[01:23] <cosenal> (I'm using Kubuntu 7.10)
[01:24] <cosenal> and it worked well also with 7.04
[01:25] <Alyx-trust> ok guys im testing my lag someone help me out
[01:25] <Alyx-trust> 1.3 seconds
[01:25] <rob_> I hate compiz
[01:25] <Alyx-trust> y?
[01:25] <rob_> it's not as user friendly as beryl was
[01:25] <rob_> I mean
[01:25] <rob_> it's a great program so I don;t really hate it
[01:25] <Alyx-trust> how do you intall beryl?
[01:26] <kat> Hoookay... dvd chick here again... no not using rewritables... i have the iso now, can't find wodim... tried sudo apt-get install wodim as well, that didn't find anything.... where is it located? (thanks for your help btw)
[01:26] <BluesKaj> Alyx-trust, ping=2secs
[01:26] <rob_> beryl is gone from the package manager and I'm too lazy to manually  install
[01:26] <Alyx-trust> thanks BluesKaj
[01:27] <BluesKaj> Alyx-trust, where are you ?
[01:27] <Alyx-trust> i would love to install it on my laptop but last time it installed but didnt display edges
[01:27] <kat> can't find wodim in /usr/bin
[01:27] <Alyx-trust> BluesKaj USA but im testing out my tor
[01:28] <BluesKaj> !beryl | Alyx-trust
[01:28] <ubotu> Alyx-trust: Beryl has been merged with Compiz to form Compiz-Fusion.  New Beryl installs are discouraged. See also !compiz
[01:28] <Alyx-trust> trying not to be so "here I am" in the irc
[01:28] <Alyx-trust> ok so try compix fusion
[01:28] <kyron> Monkii, when I attempt to install the 4 packages, it tells me they don't exist in the repository...should I simply delete them?...but they all have to do with power management... and this IS a laptop
[01:29] <BluesKaj>  Alyx-trust ,Ontario Canada here...seems you've got a bit of a lag there
[01:30] <Alyx-trust> BluesKaj yeah because of tor I dont want it to ident my IP
[01:30] <Monkii> lol, I'm in Ontario, too :)
[01:30] <BluesKaj> yeah well, tor is usually not that slow
[01:30] <Alyx-trust> i know
[01:30] <Alyx-trust> lol
[01:31] <Monkii> @kyron, have you tried enabling all repositories in Adept_Manager?
[01:31] <Alyx-trust> hey is it compiz i should be installing what are the packages called?
[01:31] <rickey> anyone here do alot of work in open office?
[01:31] <GS3User007> what's the opposite of 'startx'?
[01:31] <kyron> yeah...pretty much...but these shouldn't be "out of main stream"
[01:32] <BluesKaj> GS3User007, what are you trying to do ?
[01:32] <cosenal> GS3User007: Ctrl + Alt + Backspace
[01:33] <GS3User007> thanks
[01:33] <Alyx-trust> that restarts X
[01:33] <RangerX> hello
[01:33] <Angelus> !adeptfix
[01:33] <Angelus> !aptfix
[01:34] <BluesKaj> don't think that's what he wanted , cosenal
[01:34] <ubotu> If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »
[01:34] <Monkii> @kron, and I'm assuming you did that apt-get update... because I *do* see those packages in my repos
[01:34] <Monkii> (kron = kyron - again!)
[01:34] <cosenal> BluesKaj: but he said "thanks", so... :P
[01:34] <kyron> Monkii, yeah I did...maybe I should change my repo....maybe canadian repo is frozen :P
[01:35] <cosenal> all of a sudden my knetowrkmanager says: No active device
[01:35] <cosenal> it's weird because it have been always working
[01:35] <cosenal> and it worked well also with 7.04
[01:35] <Monkii> could be... I noticed they seem to cut out more than the main server too.. :(
[01:35] <BluesKaj> cosenal, he was asking how to get to to the TTY prompt  , a while ago
[01:36] <Angelus> cosenal: its still works, it says that because you are not using dhcp but a manual configuration
[01:36] <kyron> Monkii, O_o....huh...really?
[01:36] <cosenal> Angelus: I didn't change anything!
[01:36] <BluesKaj> cosenal, behind a router ?
[01:37] <Angelus> cosenal: artificial inteligence, its a normal evulation nowadays in computers
[01:37] <Angelus> LOL
[01:37] <cosenal> BluesKaj: yes
[01:37] <Angelus> cosenal: check if you are using dhcp or not, if not, change to dhcp
[01:37] <Monkii> cosenal - Take a look at /etc/network/interfaces... If the interface (eg eth1) is in there, knetworkmanager won't use your device (strange, I know) This got me a couple of times
[01:38] <Angelus> cosenal: you can do it by right clicking on th system tray icon and clicking manual configuration
[01:38] <cosenal> it changed by itself?
[01:38] <Angelus> could be
[01:38] <Angelus> check just to make sure
[01:38] <BluesKaj> reboot the router , but firdst check in system setting /network for eth0 or eth1
[01:38] <Angelus> check if its using dhcp or not, if not change to dhcp, you will have you're device there again
[01:39] <cosenal> Angelus: the eth1 interface is configured to Automatic dhcp
[01:39] <cosenal> BluesKaj: I'm not able to reboot the router
[01:39] <cosenal> BluesKaj: I don't know where it is :)
[01:40] <BluesKaj> ok
[01:40] <Angelus> cosenal: http://your.default.gateway
[01:40] <Alyx-trust> BluesKaj how do you get your ident to not say you ip without tor?
[01:40] <Angelus> if you're default gateway is <IP_ADDRESS> , then http://<IP_ADDRESS>, it will give you router settings
[01:41] <cosenal> Angelus: I know, but I don't have passwd :)
[01:42] <Angelus> ah
[01:42] <Angelus> ok
[01:42] <kyron> Monkii, hmm...it tells me I am missing a dependancy for acpid to work properly: libc6 (>= 2.6-1)
[01:42] <kyron> but... I don't cotrol that...isn't apt_manager supposed to take care of all that^
[01:42] <kyron> ?
[01:42] <Angelus> cosenal: the router can be rebooted by pulling out its wire (of power) and put it back in
[01:43] <cosenal> Angelus: I don't know where it issssss!!!!!!
[01:43] <Angelus> ?
[01:43] <Angelus> you don't know where the router is ? WTF?
[01:43] <Angelus> grap the wire of the internet from you're computer , and move with it till you reach the router LOL
[01:44] <cosenal> Angelus: wireless
[01:44] <Angelus> O_O
[01:44] <Angelus> you're being imposible now
[01:44] <cosenal> but if I manually start wpa_supplicant
[01:44] <cosenal> it works
[01:45] <Angelus> try to hack you're brain's evolution path, the way to evolve in a human able to sence wire less connection,  and inject yo'self with a chemical to evolve in 15mins
[01:45] <kyron> Monkii, could it be that my repo is ill configured?...should I disable using pre-version updates?
[01:46] <cosenal> Monkii: anyway the interface eth1 is in /etc/network/interfaces
[01:52] <Shinigami> Hi all, I'm having a resolution problem.  I set it to 1024x768 in system settings and aply.  However, every time I log in its back to 1680x1050.  It never stays.  Is there away to force it?
[01:54] <BluesKaj> Shinigami, admin mode ?
[01:54] <Tm_T> hi kids
[01:55] <Tm_T> BluesKaj: sorry I was, ehm, playing with kids
[01:55] <sunny_> My system go to Runing local boot script (etc/rc.local) [OK] and hang on, How can I fix it?
[01:55] <Shinigami> BluesKaj: Yes, I did that one as well and it still reverts back.
[01:55] <BluesKaj> Tm_T,  :)
[01:56] <sunny_> anyone there?
[01:56] <BluesKaj> Shinigami, have you configured your monitor driver ?
[01:56] <sunny_> Hi
[01:56] <Tm_T> sunny_: no, nobody here
[01:57] <Shinigami> BluesKaj: No, I never thought about it as I have never had to before.  Just installed Gusty.  Is it hard to do?
[01:58] <sunny_> What? who are you? You're not a human?
[01:58] <Tm_T> no, but I am very hu-man like
[01:58] <sunny_> All a rebot
[01:58] <BluesKaj> Shinigami, 'k-menu/system settings/monitor&display/hardware-tab/admin mode/graphics card/configure. Find your card in the list and "apply" , same goes for the monitor, if possible.Click "test". If all is well, logout and back in again.
[01:58] <sunny_> Just human like!!!
[01:59] <BluesKaj> !ask | sunny_
[01:59] <ubotu> sunny_: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[02:00] <Jucato> BluesKaj: he already did
[02:00] <Tm_T> whops
[02:00] <BigDaddy> Evening all. Got a question about KDM. Is there a way to have it show who is logged on underneath the users name? GDM does this. It would be better than having my wife having 5 sessions going at the same time
[02:00] <Shinigami> BluesKaj: Ok, I'll try that.
[02:00] <sunny_> Nobody ask my question
[02:00] <sunny_> My system go to Runing local boot script (etc/rc.local) [OK] and hang on, How can I fix it?
[02:01] <npurciful> how do i get the alternate install (gutsy) to see my crypto lvm for reinstall
[02:02] <g2g591> what sunny is saying:his system freezes once it gets to Running local bootscript {OK}
[02:02] <sunny_> And now I use startx cann't go in X
[02:02] <sunny_> yes
[02:03] <sunny_> What's worng with it
[02:05] <g2g591> sunny:try sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[02:06] <jasonago> how can i put the command nvidia-settings on startup?
[02:06] <g2g591> jasonago:why would you want to do that?
[02:06] <sunny_> do what?
[02:06] <jasonago> the screen resolutions and refresh rates of my monitor is not always loaded on start up unless I will explicitly type nvidia-settings on konsole...
[02:07] <Diskonnected> hey people; does anybody know where i can get support for mac OS X Intel? i have no clue i figured u guys might know?
[02:07] <jasonago> is there any other way?
[02:08] <sunny_> My system go to Runing local boot script (etc/rc.local) [OK] and hang on, How can I fix it?
[02:08] <sunny_> Is Anyone can help me?
[02:09] <Alyx-Trust> ok BluesKaj i just had a bad experience with compiz-fusion
[02:09] <snipz> hey, does anyone know if tar follows systems links?
[02:10] <Alyx-Trust> just slowed me way the hell down
[02:10] <BluesKaj> Alyx-Trust, which graphics card do you have ?
[02:11] <Alyx-Trust> BluesKaj ati radeon 1100 xpress
[02:11] <Alyx-Trust> laptop
[02:11] <BluesKaj> yeah , ati and compiz don't mix too well
[02:11] <Diskonnected> does anybody know where the MAC OS X Support chat?
[02:12] <BluesKaj> Diskonnected, whynot google your question
[02:12] <Diskonnected> i did
[02:12] <Diskonnected> cant find anything:(
[02:12] <Jucato> not the right place to ask though
[02:13] <Diskonnected> i know that; i just thought yall might know or might be willing to help me?
[02:13] <BigDaddy> Anyone at all know how to make KDM show users that are logged in?
[02:13] <Alyx-Trust> BluesKaj now my restart buttons are missing strange?
[02:15] <sunny_> I known it
[02:15] <Alyx-Trust> ok enough slow tor
[02:21] <sjovan> hi every one. I origanly installed festy, but I got a bit tierd of gnome. I have now isntalled the kde pack and I'm just wondering. How can i remove gnome if i deside to stick with kde?
[02:23] <yuriy> anybody have gmail imap working nicely in kmail?
[02:23] <ira> gmail is just too old and nasty
[02:23] <lophyte> I can
[02:23] <ira> zimbra
[02:23] <Jucato> sjovan:  <dasKreech> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PureKDE
[02:23] <Shinigami> BluesKaj: Thank you.  That fixed it right up. :) *waves*
[02:24] <lophyte> I can't find any information about enabling desktop effects in kubuntu gutsy.. can anyone point me in the right direction?
[02:24] <Jucato> !compiz | lophyte
[02:24] <ubotu> lophyte: Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion
[02:24] <sjovan> daskreech:Jucato: yepp yepp
[02:24] <lophyte> oi
[02:24] <lophyte> thanks Jucato
[02:24] <mikes3> !compiz
[02:24] <mikes3> ?compiz
[02:24] <Tm_T> mikes3: dont
[02:24] <Tm_T> Jucato: you and your fresh eyes :(
[02:25] <Jucato> :)
[02:25] <angasule> !effects
[02:25] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about effects - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[02:25] <angasule> !effect
[02:25] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about effect - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[02:25] <angasule> !desktop
[02:25] <ubotu> A desktop environment is what "puts the pieces of a !GUI together". The available desktop environments in Ubuntu are !GNOME (ubuntu-desktop), !KDE (kubuntu-desktop), !Xfce (xubuntu-desktop), IceWM, !Fluxbox, WindowMaker (wmaker), FVWM and others - See also !Flavors
[02:25] <angasule> hmm, to get desktop effects I should install compiz-kde, then?
[02:25] <Jucato> !compiz | lophyte
[02:25] <ubotu> lophyte: Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion
[02:26] <Jucato> er sorry
[02:26] <Jucato> !compiz | angasule
[02:26] <ubotu> angasule: Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion
[02:26] <SudoKing> what's everybody up to with compiz
[02:26] <Tm_T> !botabuse
[02:26] <ubotu> Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (type also /msg ubotu Bot). Also avoid adding joke/useless factoids. Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...
[02:26] <doudou> Hello, where can i find help for bluetooth audio on Kubuntu gutsy?
[02:27] <sunny_> Hi, does anyone can help me
[02:27] <sunny_> My system go to Runing local boot script (etc/rc.local) [OK] and hang on, How can I fix it?
[02:28] <a|2121|e> assalamualaikum
[02:29] <Gruelius> Is there an application to set the startup applications
[02:29] <mikes3> compiz-fusion installed,does not work properly,,the only distro i have had probs,,sid,,no problem,Mandriva by default,pclinux,Ubuntu even ,,Ubuntu gets freferential treatment i see
[02:30] <Jucato> Gruelius: by default, just leave the app running when you logout, it will be restarted when you log back in
[02:31] <Gruelius> jucato: i dont want the keeping of sessions or whatever its called
[02:31] <Jucato> !autostart | Gruelius
[02:31] <ubotu> Gruelius: To make programs autostart with your KDE session, you can make a link to it in ~/.kde/Autostart. The package 'kcontrol-autostart' makes a kcontrol item for handling items in that directory.
[02:31] <utnubuk> hey everyone, what program would you reccomend to rip a DVD to my machine?
[02:31] <Gruelius> thankyou
[02:31] <BluesKaj> Gruelius, alt+F2 ' kdesu konqueror /usr/share/autostart '
[02:31] <Tm_T> !dvd | utnubuk
[02:31] <ubotu> utnubuk: For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at !Medibuntu or (for Feisty and earlier) http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[02:31] <ardchoille> utnubuk: k9copy
[02:31] <utnubuk> thanks
[02:32] <sunny_> why I only can use sudo startx to start X-windows,
[02:33] <biovore> hmm..  probably started as root and it made root only files in your home directory..
[02:33] <barbaros> hi guys
[02:33] <barbaros> have u ever heard of yakuake ?
[02:34] <ardchoille> barbaros: I use it daily
[02:34] <BluesKaj> !info yakuake
[02:34] <ubotu> yakuake: a Quake-style terminal emulator based on KDE Konsole technology. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.8-0ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 167 kB, installed size 1048 kB
[02:34] <barbaros> i try to lance it by pressing f12 but it does not run
[02:34] <barbaros> what can it be the possbile problem ?
[02:34] <barbaros> ive run it once then its gone
[02:35] <ardchoille> barbaros: it hides above your desktop
[02:35] <barbaros> in command run diaglox box i write yakuake it says it has been lanced and i should press f12 but nothing happens when i press it
[02:35] <ardchoille> barbaros: Open a terminal and type this: dcop yakuake DCOPInterface slotToggleState
[02:35] <kyron> Anyone else ever had this problem after installing 7.10? : https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/update-manager/+bug/158427
[02:35] <ardchoille> barbaros: Once yakuake is open, click on the options to setup the toggle key combo
[02:35] <sunny_> how can I fixed it
[02:36] <sunny_> I use recover mode and use startx can startx the X-windows
[02:36] <wulfrano> saludos
[02:37] <sunny_> biovore, how can I fix it?
[02:37] <barbaros> hwere is tooggle key _?
[02:37] <biovore> sunny_: sudo chown <username> /home/<username> -R
[02:37] <biovore> try that..  username being your username..
[02:38] <sunny_> Thank you I try now
[02:38] <ira> any one smb cups?
[02:38] <ira> i can open my shared folders
[02:38] <ira> bu can not connect to a shared printer
[02:39] <SudoKing> what about me
[02:40] <SudoKing> oh n/m
[02:40] <Greenery> i'm planning to buy new gfx card either from nvidia or ATI but my concern is will the latest gx from either company works well with Kubuntu?
[02:40] <barbaros> i cant find a way to pull down this yakuake
[02:40] <ardchoille> barbaros: alt+f2: dcop yakuake DCOPInterface slotToggleState
[02:40] <barbaros> do i have to type all the time this cryptic command line ?
[02:41] <Tm_T> Greenery: nvidia should, though latest highend maybe not, but that's unfortunate truth with both of those
[02:41] <ardchoille> barbaros: No, once yakuake is open, you can set a toggle key combo
[02:41] <barbaros> how ?
[02:41] <barbaros> i ve tried to do it f12 is set right ?
[02:41] <ardchoille> barbaros: is yakuake open?
[02:41] <barbaros> i ve set f12 as alternative
[02:41] <barbaros> yep it's open
[02:42] <ardchoille> barbaros: click the options button (whichever it is for your skin) and choose "Configure Global Shortcuts
[02:42] <ardchoille> barbaros: middle button with a down arrow in it?
[02:42] <barbaros> open retrat yakuake shortcut f12 alternate f12
[02:43] <barbaros> do i have to reset those values ?
[02:43] <barbaros> when i click on f12 i cant see it
[02:43] <ardchoille> click on the Open/Retract.. then click on the Custom item below, then click the big button
[02:44] <BluesKaj> Greenery, as an ati user I'm kind of restricted due to the lack of support for ati in linux altho reports say it 's supposed to be better shortly ... nvidia seems to be more widely supported with better drivers etc
[02:44] <barbaros> primary shortcut is F12
[02:44] <barbaros> there
[02:44] <barbaros> alternate shortcut is F12 again
[02:44] <barbaros> multi-key is not selected
[02:45] <Helvasca> How do I rotate a monitor 90 degrees in the display setting?
[02:45] <ardchoille> barbaros: Use a different one for Alternate, if your f12 key isn't working, you don't have a primary or alternate the way you have it
[02:46] <Greenery> cool thanks for the suggestion
[02:46] <ardchoille> barbaros: I use ctrl+space
[02:46] <SudoKing> My F12 Key isn't working; I think there's a cookie crumb behind it
[02:46] <ardchoille> SudoKing: hahaha
[02:46] <Helvasca> ???\
[02:46] <barbaros> ive assigned win+f12
[02:46] <SudoKing> I love eating behind the keyboard :)
[02:46] <barbaros> so f12 key works but there is something wrong may it be assigned some other action too ?
[02:46] <ardchoille> barbaros: You can also make a launcher for your panel and use thqat command I gave you to toggle yakuake instead of using the key combo
[02:47] <sunny_> Hi, biovore
[02:47] <ardchoille> barbaros: That's why I said make a different one for alternate
[02:47] <biovore> oO
[02:47] <biovore> not work?
[02:47] <barbaros> does not kcontrols shortcuts diaglog warn me about that ?
[02:47] <sunny_> I try now,but found another problem
[02:47] <kyron> wow...I never thought kubuntu could be broken to such an extent... just resuming from pressing the power button on a laptop...get a blank illuminated screen...can't do a thing but reboot O_o
[02:47] <barbaros> what does launcher mean ?
[02:47] <barbaros> do i have to install it ?
[02:47] <barbaros> im a newbie ?
[02:48] <biovore> launcher is like a windows icon to run stuff..
[02:48] <barbaros> and also is there a way to remote connection as it's the case with windows xp
[02:48] <sunny_> Hi,/usr/share/X11/mics refcount is 2, should be 1
[02:49] <sunny_> what's refcount?
[02:49] <biovore> I don't even have a /usr/share/X11/mics
[02:49] <sunny_> Hi,/usr/share/fonts/X11/mics refcount is 2, should be 1
[02:49] <sunny_> I'm sorry
[02:50] <biovore> misc?
[02:50] <sunny_> yes
[02:50] <biovore> That has something to do with the fonts setup from /etc/X11/Xorg.conf
[02:52] <sunny_> What's problem?
[02:52] <sunny_> about Xorg.conf
[02:52] <sunny_> How can I do ?
[02:55] <sunny_> Hi, biovore are you still in?
[02:55] <sunny_> there
[02:55] <biovore> sorta..
[02:55] <biovore> playing a game..
[02:57] <sunny_> In windows?
[02:57] <sunny_> what game is?
[02:57] <biovore> UT2K$
[02:58] <angasule> hey, do you know the compiz config manager has wrong deps?
[02:58] <pfein> is kio_http_cache_cleaner hammering anyone else's disk?
[02:58] <sunny_> Hi, anyone known about what is refcount
[02:59] <kyron> ok...that's it...I'm going 7.04
[02:59] <hydrogen> go!
[03:01] <kyron> well..it's retro from 7.10 ...hell, I installed it 3 times on a given laptop and all the config gets screwy (menus and all) where as, I have this other laptop that upgraded to 7.10 from 7.04...but that one now has 4 problematic packages that crash adept
[03:02] <damian> hi
[03:02] <BluesKaj> kyron , if possible install synaptic , it has a repair function for broken packages
[03:05] <elpez> anybody knows how to use sd camera cards
[03:05] <elpez> ?
[03:05] <sunny_> Hi, anyone known about what is refcount
[03:05] <kyron> BluesKaj, that a package manager?
[03:05] <kyron> BluesKaj, I know that to be a touchpad ;)
[03:06] <BluesKaj> yes , sismilar to adept but with more options
[03:06] <kyron> BluesKaj, ohhhh
[03:07] <BluesKaj> it's the default package manager used in gnome, but it works well in kde
[03:07] <kyron> that and I still don't seem to be able to get Medibuntu packages (ie: acroread isn't found) to be loaded in my selection (even though it's _there_, checked out and all...)
[03:07] <BluesKaj> !source-o-matic | kyron
[03:07] <ubotu> kyron: source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[03:09] <hasan_> hi gusy
[03:09] <hasan_> here is the problem
[03:09] <hasan_> i ve got two accounts in my computer
[03:09] <hasan_> i just want to have every settings valid for the other account
[03:09] <hasan_> namely two accounts are barbaros and hasan
[03:09] <kyron> BluesKaj, Ahhhhhhhhh...there is NO medibuntu for 7.10 as of yet...
[03:09] <kyron> I get it
[03:10] <hasan_> and i want to have every setting valid for barbaros to be same as for hasan how can i do that *
[03:10] <hasan_> including kde settings etc ..
[03:10] <elpez> !sd card
[03:10] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sd card - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[03:10] <BluesKaj> kyron, i just installed it
[03:11] <BluesKaj> acroread that is
[03:12] <kyron> BluesKaj, in 7.10...but the source-o-matic doesn't show Medibuntu as being available to select....
[03:14] <BluesKaj> it's available in other repos , kyron
[03:15] <kyron> BluesKaj, oh...sorry about that, didn't think it would be duplicated
[03:15] <BluesKaj> try the canonical debs
[03:17] <BluesKaj> such as: deb http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu gutsy partner, deb-src http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu gutsy partner, deb http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu gutsy main
[03:20] <ardchoille> Getting an error: Could not find mime type: application/octet-stream. How do I get rid of it?
[03:21] <BluesKaj> weel , sacktime here ,nite all
[03:26] <kyron> blueyed, well...uhm.. well synaptics does give me some sort of better interface...but it doesn't fix the fact that I have 4 packages that just keep failing post-installation...
[03:26] <franck> hey
[03:26] <kyron> those are: acpid acpi-support powermanagement-interface kubuntu-desktop
[03:27] <posingaspopular> Jucato: you around?
[03:27] <Jucato> almost out. what can I do for you?
[03:27] <kyron> doeth...that was for BluesKaj...which is no longer
[03:28] <lostrue> f
[03:28] <lostrue> hello
[03:29] <posingaspopular> i put that problem im having on the forums, and asked everyone I know, and no one has been able to figure it out
[03:29] <posingaspopular> is there somewhere in the Kubuntu community where I can 'escalate support' because I am really stuck on this one.
[03:30] <Angelus> canonical support
[03:30] <Angelus> but its not free
[03:30] <Tm_T> :p
[03:30] <Jucato> posingaspopular: nixternal of course :)
[03:30] <khaije1> anyone here with a sony laptop? the 'sony laptop' module doesn't work for me
[03:31] <khaije1> posingaspopular: out of curiousity, what is the difficulty?
[03:31] <posingaspopular> i asked richard, but he only responds to like 5% of my pings. which is still quite alot ;p
[03:31] <posingaspopular> khaije1: my mem usage is upwards of 50%, causing my computer to run super slow and there is no reason for it. apps are only using a tiny fraction of my allocated mem/cpu space
[03:32] <posingaspopular> i can move around my desktop by using the CL and keyboard shortcuts and irssi, but it's still a pain
[03:33] <khaije1> posingaspopular: does top tell you
[03:34] <khaije1> posingaspopular: what does top tell you?
[03:35] <posingaspopular>  khaije1: what do you want specifically... 97 tasks.. 2 running cpu is 0.4us
[03:36] <posingaspopular> if I run 'htop' it shows my mem usage is WAYY up, but nothing related to the apps. the same thing shows up in kinformationcenter
[03:37] <khaije1> posingaspopular: i'm curious but dont' want to bug you if i can't help, is there a forum link you can give me, it's an interesting problem
[03:37] <khaije1> the stuff i would ask you've probably already been asked before
[03:38] <posingaspopular> you can bug me if you want, but i'll link you to the post I made in the ubuntu forums
[03:38] <khaije1> posingaspopular: so how much and what type of memory do you have
[03:39] <khaije1> how old is the machine, does it still happen from a live cd, or an alt OS
[03:40] <khaije1> kyron: are you a robotech fan?
[03:41] <posingaspopular> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=595747
[03:41] <kyron> khaije1, heheh, I wasn't inspired by the game but came up with the name before knowing it's robotech origins...
[03:41] <kyron> which I actually adhered to ;)
[03:41] <posingaspopular> my machine is less than 2 years old, 2.66 ghz, i cant boot from live cd because of my stupid cd drive not liking me, eyc
[03:42] <posingaspopular> ping me if you want anything else, im going to be AF-IRC reading
[03:43] <khaije1> whats that ?
[03:46] <khaije1> posingaspopular: so your whole system is slow? is it just gui apps or is the cmdline sluggish too?
[03:48] <posingaspopular> i think it's just the gui. my initial impression was that the whole system was slow, but not that i test the konsole, it seems its just the gui stuff
[03:48] <khaije1> posingaspopular: and this started after clicking on a konversation alert?
[03:49] <posingaspopular> yea it was just a highlight, and when i clicked it, my computer went down hard\
[03:50] <khaije1> is the gui slow in the same way from the time you login to the time you sign out? does it fluctuate at all?
[03:51] <posingaspopular> no it's pretty much slow on a steady basis
[03:52] <posingaspopular> but im thinking it HAS to be a memory leak, because now my used physical memory is at 63% and its been steadily climing for the past 24 hours
[03:52] <posingaspopular> it was at 49% when I first started poking around the systek
[03:53] <khaije1> try installing a different window manager / desktop envirmonment (i'd reccommend fluxbox because it doesn't introduce a lot of dependiencies) and see is that is slow
[03:53] <posingaspopular> and my disk cache usage has been steady climing as well
[03:54] <khaije1> thats possible, but if it's a leak it should have a concrete source, and from what you've said it should be associate with something originating in the gui layer
[03:54] <khaije1> posingaspopular: you can disregard the cache info that doesn't really count toward your memory total
[03:55] <posingaspopular> hmm true
[03:55] <posingaspopular> i think im going to try booting off a live cd and swapping out the mouse, see if that helps much
[03:55] <khaije1> k
[03:57] <kazuma_> Hi
[03:57] <kazuma_> anyone can help me?
[03:58] <kazuma_> i need a amd 64 compiz fusion icon
[03:58] <GS3User007> how do i turn up my refresh rate? i know that my monitor is capable of 60, 70, 72, and 85 Hz. The only option is 60. How can I fix this?
[03:58] <biovore> GS3User007: /etc/X11/Xorg.conf
[03:59] <kazuma_> i need a compiz fusion icon for 64 bits pls
[03:59] <biovore> make one...
[04:00] <kazuma_> how
[04:00] <kazuma_> i'm newbie
[04:00] <kazuma_> :(
[04:00] <biovore> gimp.. inkscape..
[04:00] <GS3User007> biovore: i'm supposed to be looking at the "vertrefresh" field under 'monitor', right?
[04:00] <biovore> right..
[04:00] <kazuma_> is it hard?
[04:00] <kazuma_> cuz' belive me i'm new
[04:00] <GS3User007> biovore: it says 43-72
[04:00] <kazuma_> i want to run compiz just with 1 click
[04:01] <kazuma_> but i can't
[04:01] <biovore> I don't bother with compiz..
[04:01] <posingaspopular> w00t, i switched the mouse from one USB port to another and now it's all running smoothly
[04:01] <biovore> to unstable..
[04:01] <posingaspopular> Jucato: mad hack ^^
[04:01] <funcrush> my system takes too much times for loading applicataion even Konsole window, how I can correct this problem?
[04:01] <biovore> whats your system?
[04:01] <funcrush> kubuntu 7.04
[04:02] <biovore> what hardware is your computer?
[04:02] <funcrush> I just finish insatlling and updating
[04:02] <GS3User007> funcrush: hardware specs
[04:02] <funcrush> you mean spec?
[04:02] <GS3User007> funcrush: memory, cpu, etc
[04:02] <funcrush> cpu : 2.8 GHz, ram : 1 GMB  graphic card : geforce 5500
[04:03] <biovore> yeah that shouldn't be running slow..
[04:03] <funcrush> yup but too slow for loading
[04:03] <biovore> amd64?
[04:03] <funcrush> this problem is appeared after updating
[04:03] <funcrush> nope
[04:04] <biovore> updating to what? gusty?
[04:04] <funcrush> no
[04:04] <biovore> just security updates?
[04:04] <kazuma_> how can i join another channel?
[04:04] <funcrush> maybe, sorry i don't know exactly
[04:04] <biovore> try /join channelname
[04:04] <biovore> example /join #ubuntu
[04:05] <kazuma_> thanks
[04:05] <GS3User007> how do i turn up my refresh rate? xorg.conf has the correct range specificied, but system settigns -> monitor and display only shows 60Hz
[04:05] <funcrush> try restart your x-server
[04:05] <funcrush> press ctrl+alt+BACKSPACE
[04:05] <biovore> read /var/log/xorg.conf  maybe you have to specifiy mode lines to get that to work..
[04:06] <biovore> ^ very pain in the but process
[04:06] <biovore> yeah.. after you change xorg.conf you need to restart X for it to take effect.
[04:06] <GS3User007> i didn't change it, i just peeked at it
[04:07] <biovore> make the vrefresh just 1 number 75 for instance..
[04:07] <funcrush> hm...about 10 seconds are takes for loading Konsole :(
[04:08] <apokay> Hello @ all :)    Im a new kubuntu user :P
[04:08] <funcrush> the others are not, but loading application is slow only
[04:08] <biovore> funcrush: try top to check CPU/Memory usage (top in a konsole)
[04:08] <funcrush> hello
[04:09] <funcrush> well, How i can? i'm newbe too
[04:10] <funcrush> well some pakages are broken like ttf-opensymbol and python-uno, is it related?
[04:12] <Lam_> how do i center the login details box in the login manager?  i turned off the users list and now it looks weird because the users list is technically not there, but the layout has it displayed as if it was there so there's this huge transparent whitespace to the left of the login details box where the users list was
[04:14] <nixternal> quit talking about me Jucato and posingaspopular
[04:21] <numan> anybody plz help
[04:21] <numan> how to load adept manager as root in butsy gibon?
[04:22] <funcrush> adept-manager will ask you for password of root
[04:23] <numan> no it didnot ask me for password
[04:23] <numan> it pops up a message that i cannot apply changes through this because i have to be root or run sudo programs
[04:24] <funcrush> well
[04:24] <funcrush> you can run in konsole, too
[04:24] <funcrush> sudo apt-get updagte
[04:24] <funcrush> "sudo apt-get upgrade"
[04:25] <funcrush> update and upgrade
[04:28] <GS3User007_> what do i need to do to allow kubuntu to read/write ntfs drives?
[04:28] <sub[t]rnl> sudo apt-get install ntfs-config
[04:29] <sub[t]rnl> or mount them by cli
[04:29] <GS3User007_> thanks
[04:30] <numan> funcrush! plz help me to load adept manager user interface as root
[04:31] <numan> hey!
[04:31] <sub[t]rnl> numan: try kdesu adept_manager
[04:31] <sub[t]rnl> from konsole
[04:31] <numan> sub[t]rnl: thanks
[04:34] <numan> sub[t]rnl: it loaded the adept manager but these error also come up in konsole -->floof channel for details
[04:35] <sub[t]rnl> better get to floofing then
[04:36] <numan> ok
[04:37] <Jucato> posingaspopular: whoa? it was all becuse of a mouse? O.o
[04:37] <numan> sub[t]rnl: how to get to floofing?
[04:38] <gongoputch> so, if I wanted to install, and I downloaded a CD and booted and am staring at (initramfs) .... what would I do next?
[04:40] <posingaspopular> yea dude, wth.   For NTFS write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[04:41] <posingaspopular> !mount
[04:41] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Kubuntu, go to System Settings -> Advanced Tab -> Disks & Filesystem. See also !fstab and !DiskMounter
[04:43] <numan> !flood
[04:43] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[04:44] <funcrush> I got error message in "sudo apt-get -f install"     http://cfs2.tistory.com/upload_control/download.blog?fhandle=YmxvZzU3NzA1QGZzMi50aXN0b3J5LmNvbTovYXR0YWNoLzAvMDUwMDAwMDAwMDE3LnBuZw==
[04:45] <funcrush> How I can fix it?
[04:45] <numan> sub[t]rnl: here is the error log-->http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/42652/
[04:47] <sub[t]rnl> numan: does the adept_manager start?
[04:48] <hagabaka> hmm, looks like removing java5, tetex and associated packages will make enough room for gusty, sweet :)
[04:51] <sub[t]rnl> numan: I'm not seeing anything in your pastebin thats going to stop adept_manager from running.  so, ignore those errors your seeing in the konsole when running it.  Its just a uid and xorg complaining about an input device
[04:51] <sub[t]rnl> or fix em
[04:51] <sub[t]rnl> :D
[04:52] <GS3User007_> thoughts: pidgin or kopete?
[04:52] <Tm_T> Kopete
[04:53] <GS3User007_> and why
[04:53] <Jucato> whatever works for you
[04:53] <GS3User007_> i'm new to linux, so i'm asking for opinions...
[04:54] <Jucato> best way to find out is to start using what's there (Kopete), and then test the other one (Pidgin). Although Kopete supports webcams and Pidgin doesn't
[04:55] <smorg> did they change the name of libxine-extracodecs?
[04:55] <Jucato> smorg: libxine1-ffmpeg
[04:55] <Jucato> if you want, you can just install kubuntu-restricted-extras
[04:56] <smorg> ah that includes mpg/wmv/mp3 etc
[04:56] <Jucato> except wmv/wmva
[04:56] <Jucato> wma*
[04:56] <Jucato> and dvdcss
[04:57] <Merritt> Is there a way to get a list of channels, so you can find out where you want to go on IRC?
[04:57] <smorg> cool thx
[04:57] <Dr_willis> darn wife. Wont leave me alone.. Wanting me to find her some photo software that can put a 'picture' in the background (slightly faded), and then a 2nd picture in the foreground  Like the Photo galleries do.d
[04:57] <Jucato> Merritt: Window -> Channel List for ______ (be careful, you will lag a bi t)
[04:58] <Dr_willis> Anyone seen such a tool? windows/linux/ as idiot proof as possible :)
[04:58] <Daisuke_Laptop> hrmm
[04:58] <Merritt> jucato: Thank you
[04:58] <Daisuke_Laptop> like...  an inset photo like a photo studio would do?
[05:04] <gundam_rx78nt1> It's kind of quiet here.
[05:04] <GS3User007_> kinda nice, actually
[05:04] <gundam_rx78nt1> I know.
[05:05] <sub[t]rnl> its a good sign
[05:05]  * Daisuke_Laptop listens to the crickets
[05:05] <sub[t]rnl> hehe
[05:05] <gundam_rx78nt1> that linux is getting recognized as the favorite OS of the world?
[05:06] <gundam_rx78nt1> yep, that is a good sign, actually.
[05:06] <sub[t]rnl> no, that the people using kubuntu arn't having any problems :D
[05:06] <gundam_rx78nt1> true, or they are celebrating that the Red Sox won the Series.
[05:08] <sub[t]rnl> the matchup I'm pumped to see happens sunday
[05:08] <gundam_rx78nt1> which one?
[05:08] <sub[t]rnl> colts vs. patriots
[05:08] <gundam_rx78nt1> Don't say the Broncos... please don't say them.
[05:08] <gundam_rx78nt1> Oh yea. go patriots.
[05:09] <gundam_rx78nt1> You know, I think that Kubuntu should hold a desktop theme competition like gentoo did on their website.
[05:09] <aaron_> is there a client for linux to connect to windows remote desktop?
[05:09] <L_Ron_Hubbard> gundam_rx78nt1: you should be glad i'm a forgiving person :)
[05:10] <kudar> wow my wireless is slow. im about to FLIP
[05:10] <gundam_rx78nt1> It would be nice to see what the imagination of the people that use Kubuntu can come up with.
[05:10] <Daisuke_Ido> colts or bust :)
[05:10] <gundam_rx78nt1> L_Ron_Hubbard, why is that?
[05:10] <Daisuke_Ido> because he'll sic his body thetans on you
[05:11] <Daisuke_Ido> sorry, forgot to switch nicks
[05:11] <Daisuke_Ido> colts :D
[05:11] <sub[t]rnl> aaron_:you can use rdesktop, or if your just wanting to have windows access your linux shares, use samba
[05:11] <aaron_> I want full blown
[05:11] <aaron_> so rdesktop
[05:11] <aaron_> thanks
[05:11] <sub[t]rnl> np
[05:11] <aaron_> will I find that in adept
[05:12] <gundam_rx78nt1> rdesktop? it's compatible with windows' remote desktop support?
[05:12] <sub[t]rnl> yewp
[05:12] <Daisuke_Ido> my experience is probably not typical, but i found it easier to install SFU on the windows side and connect to the existing NFS shares from windows...
[05:13] <kudar> will someone hack my box and make my wireless faster. im about to /myself
[05:13] <kudar> you can have root
[05:13] <kudar> what do i care
[05:14] <sub[t]rnl> heh, might be careful who you trust with your box kudar
[05:15] <sub[t]rnl> but.. <IP_ADDRESS> is that you?
[05:15] <sub[t]rnl> iwconfig
[05:15] <sub[t]rnl> miss
[05:20] <hellhound> for some reason my kde autostart directory does not seem to work... i have two bash scripts in there and it will not run either one of them.  I have also tried to use links but to no avail
[05:20] <sub[t]rnl> chmod +x bashscript
[05:21] <supert0nes> anyone know when we will see rc1?
[05:21] <hellhound> sub[t]rnl: they are already set as executable
[05:21] <Jucato> hellhound: see? you get the same answer in 2 places :)
[05:22] <gundam_rx78nt1> sub[t]rnl, what command to I start rdesktop... I am confused by the man page.
[05:23] <hellhound> Jucato: yes but i did already check that
[05:23] <hellhound> Jucato: in fact i can go to my autostart directory and double click them and they will start
[05:23] <Jucato> hm... strange indeed...
[05:24] <sub[t]rnl> gundam_rx78nt1: not sure, never used rdesktop
[05:24] <hellhound> Jucato: is there a way to make sure that kde knows to check this directory?
[05:24] <numan> sub[t]rnl: yes thanks for  your help i was busy installing these updates
[05:24] <Jucato> it's checked automatically
[05:25] <sub[t]rnl> gundam_rx78nt1: http://www.venturecake.com/10-minutes-to-run-every-windows-app-seamlessly-on-your-ubuntu-desktop/
[05:25] <sub[t]rnl> :D
[05:25] <Jucato> hellhound: in what directory exactly did you put them?
[05:25] <hellhound> Jucato: that is what i thought... but i can't think of anything else
[05:26] <hellhound> jucato: ~/.kde/Autostart/
[05:26] <Jucato> hm... weird...
[05:26]  * Jucato can't think of any reason why it wouldn't start
[05:26] <numan> sub[t]rnl: how to make firefox the default browser for every command even in konversation for opening links?
[05:26] <sub[t]rnl> don't use konv
[05:26] <hellhound> Jucato: is there a log i check?
[05:27] <Jucato> not sure
[05:27] <sub[t]rnl> sure its in the configure konversation tab though
[05:27] <Jucato> numan: konversation would use whatever default browser KDE is set to use. in System Settings -> Default Applications
[05:27] <lumpycow> why does Kubuntu 7.10 give me screwed up menu names like in this screenshot http://dominomf.com/smcfiles/index.php?mode=upload&rec=8952&secret=344472.29605405
[05:30] <numan> sub[t]rnl: how to open system settings?
[05:31] <sub[t]rnl> start -> system settings
[05:31] <sub[t]rnl> ?
[05:31] <Jucato> K Menu -> System Settings
[05:31] <sub[t]rnl> pfheh
[05:31] <Jucato> we have a start? O.o
[05:31] <sub[t]rnl> did you hear that question?
[05:31] <sub[t]rnl> :P was trying to make it reeal simple
[05:32] <kudar> sub[t]rnl: you want to see my iwconfig?
[05:32] <Jucato> I already answered his other question :)
[05:32] <sub[t]rnl> i answered his question before he even asked it
[05:32] <sub[t]rnl> now that would be cool
[05:33] <sub[t]rnl> :P
[05:33] <numan> sub[t]rnl: i cant find system settings in k  menu
[05:33] <kudar> numan: are you kidding
[05:34] <sub[t]rnl> numan: run systemsettings in a konsole
[05:34] <numan> yes really
[05:34] <kudar> numan: you installed kubuntu?
[05:34] <numan> kuldar: yes
[05:34] <kudar> ok why you gotta call me kuldar
[05:34] <numan> kudar: sorry
[05:34] <sub[t]rnl> kuldar: what driver are you using for your card?
[05:35]  * sub[t]rnl titters
[05:36] <kudar> sub: what is the easiest way to see...
[05:36] <kudar> lspci shows the exact card that i have
[05:36] <sub[t]rnl> hrmn
[05:36] <sub[t]rnl> yeah, show me that
[05:36] <sub[t]rnl> you might want to install ndiswrapper
[05:37] <kudar> sub: please no
[05:37] <sub[t]rnl> bah
[05:37] <kudar> sub: i heard ndiswrapper turned kubuntu into windows
[05:38] <sub[t]rnl> it just used window drivers that weren't available
[05:38] <sub[t]rnl> in linux
[05:38] <kudar> well
[05:38] <kudar> gutzy has the drivers
[05:38] <kudar> thats the thing
[05:39] <numan> sub[t]rnl: this time i also get this error log when launching system settings in konsole-->http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/42659/
[05:39] <kudar> in nvidia-drivers
[05:39] <the-erm> Is there a repository for wine-doors?  the .deb on the site isn't quite right ....
[05:39] <sub[t]rnl> the-erm: should be in the repo's already
[05:39] <the-erm> I guess I should mention I'm running gusty
[05:39] <sub[t]rnl> sudo apt-get install wine
[05:39] <the-erm> no wine doors.
[05:39] <kudar> sub: here is lspci
[05:39] <kudar> 03:00.0 Network controller: Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 4965 AG or AGN Network Connection (rev 61)
[05:39] <the-erm> and I did an apt-get install wine-doors :)
[05:40] <Daisuke_Ido> say i'm using grep to grab all the lines matching a url pattern in a set of files.  that's not all the data on those lines though.  how would i strip all data from the line except the url?
[05:40] <Daisuke_Ido> wine-doors?
[05:40] <the-erm> It's a helper application for wine.  Helps you install all the stuff.  Kinda like apt for wine.
[05:41] <Daisuke_Ido> never heard of it, no idea :)
[05:41] <the-erm> I guess should check in their channel.
[05:41] <the-erm> Wow that's a full place.
[05:42] <supert0nes> so does anyone know when kde4 rc1 is coming out like if it is today?
[05:43] <the-erm> No clue.
[05:44] <supert0nes> ahh well im  kindof excited considering the betas are not very functional
[05:44] <julius> adpet just asked me to upgrade to gutsy from gutsy, will this create a rip in the space time continum?
[05:44] <Angelus> the-erm: here http://www.wine-doors.org/releases/wine-doors_0.1.1-1_all.deb
[05:44] <Angelus> the-erm: download that and install it :)
[05:45] <Jucato> supert0nes: most probably not. it was just tagged recently, so it will take a few more days/weeks before a release is announced
[05:45] <Jucato> 1 week or so
[05:45] <supert0nes> ahh alright
[05:46] <supert0nes> the tarballs were released today
[05:46] <supert0nes> and i didnt know what kindof turnaround that gets
[05:47] <Daisuke_Ido> mornin Jucato
[05:47] <Jucato> moin Daisuke_Ido
[05:48] <Daisuke_Ido> you good with pipe manipulation?
[05:48] <sub[t]rnl> wheres NickPresta when we need him
[05:49] <b0nn> hi all, I tried to install dri desktop on my gutsy machine, and it failed (x no longer starts), now, all I want to do is revert back to the setting i had before, but cant
[05:49] <b0nn> any place to start?
[05:50] <sub[t]rnl> look in /etc/X11/ for a possible backup of the xorg.conf that was edited
[05:50] <sub[t]rnl> or run sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg to generate a new one
[05:50] <Jucato> Daisuke_Ido: I suck at bash :)
[05:50] <Daisuke_Ido> :(
[05:51] <the-erm> Angelus: that one doesn't like gusty.
[05:51] <Angelus> why?
[05:51] <Daisuke_Ido> i just need to extract a string with a set beginning and end from a longer string
[05:51] <numan> sub[t]rnl: did you saw that?
[05:51] <Daisuke_Ido> i'm thinking sed?
[05:58] <b0nn> I did the latter and still no joy
[05:58] <b0nn> how do I delete all xorg and reinstall it?
[06:00] <hellhound> Jucato: ok i just tried to add kcalc to the AUtostart as a test.  I tried a link, bashscript and also even tried to copy the program there and for some reason it did not start.
[06:00] <hellhound> Jucato:
[06:01] <Jucato> hellhound: ok extremely weird...
[06:01]  * Jucato has actually no idea now
[06:02] <hellhound> Jucato: i wonder if it is linked to kdesktop?  i have disabled this inorder to use compiz-fusion with differant wallpapers for each side of the cube
[06:02] <Jucato> O.o
[06:02] <Jucato> most probably yes
[06:02] <hellhound> do you know where kdesktop goes?
[06:02] <Jucato> how did you disable it?
[06:03] <hellhound> Jucato: i removed it from a directory and put it in my home folder... but i cannot remember what folder it was originally in
[06:03] <zhaowolong> 好难看的kde
[06:04] <zhaowolong> 还不如gnome好看呢
[06:04] <Jucato> hellhound: /usr/bin ?
[06:04] <Tm_T> zhaowolong: can we get same in english?
[06:04] <hellhound> so it was in some kde folder
[06:04] <hellhound> Jucato: no it was in some kde folder
[06:04] <Jucato> hellhound: I'm not sure, because I don't know what file you removed
[06:06] <Daisuke_Ido> !cn | zhaowolong
[06:06] <ubotu> zhaowolong: For Ubuntu help in Chinese 您可以访问中文频道： #ubuntu-cn 或者 #ubuntu-tw  或者 #ubuntu-hk
[06:12] <GS3User007_> how do i make it so a program starts everytime the computer does? like say, firefox?
[06:12] <sub[t]rnl> !autostart
[06:12] <ubotu> To make programs autostart with your KDE session, you can make a link to it in ~/.kde/Autostart. The package 'kcontrol-autostart' makes a kcontrol item for handling items in that directory.
[06:12] <Jucato> GS3User007_: leave it open when you logout, it will restart when you log back in
[06:19] <dangaio> anybody from Puerto Rico here?
[06:20] <dangaio> I was wondering how many users in PR uses kubuntu?
[06:27] <sunny_> Hi, why startx my X-windows need to use sudo startx only?
[06:27] <sunny_> anyone can help me
[06:28] <b1n42y> wot r u trying to do ?
[06:29] <sunny_> Does anybody there, On one reponse me?
[06:29] <b1n42y> yes i said what are you trying to do ?
[06:31] <Angelus> why when i try to install nvidia-settings it remove nvidia-glx-new?
[06:31] <Daisuke_Ido> because nvidia-settings isn't used by nvidia-glx-new
[06:32] <Daisuke_Ido> night!
[06:32] <Angelus> O_o
[06:32] <Angelus> so i can't have nvidia-settings on kubuntu?
[06:32] <sub[t]rnl> looks like it uses nvidia-glx-legacy, and conflicts with nvidia-glx-new, nvidia-glx
[06:33] <Angelus> that sucks :S
[06:34] <Jucato> um...
[06:34] <b1n42y> nvidia-settings = config for nvidia cards ? tv etc ?
[06:34] <Jucato> nvidia-glx and -new come with their own version of nvidia-settings
[06:34] <b1n42y> nice
[06:34] <sub[t]rnl> well, there you have it
[06:34] <Jucato> that's why it conflicts with the older version of nvidia-settings that is packaged
[06:35] <supert0nes> why are hd tuner cards not well supported at all?
[06:35] <sub[t]rnl> +1 jucato
[06:35] <sunny_> yes have try, but on cann't fix
[06:35] <sunny_> Hi, why startx my X-windows need to use sudo startx only?
[06:36] <Angelus> Jucato: i have nvidia-glx-new but i don't have nvidia-settings
[06:36] <Jucato> Angelus: have you tried typing in Konsole "nvidia-settings"?
[06:36] <b1n42y> y are u using repository drivers..they may not be the most recent ?
[06:36] <Angelus> hmm yes Jucato i have it in Konsole, but not in the k menu
[06:36] <b1n42y> goto nvidia
[06:36] <Jucato> Angelus: no problem then. it just doesn't have a menu entry
[06:37] <sunny_> b1n42y, are you talk to me?
[06:37] <b1n42y> tney
[06:37] <b1n42y> no
[06:37] <sunny_> sorry
[06:37] <b1n42y> no probs
[06:37] <sunny_> Do you you what is refcount
[06:37] <b1n42y> i was trying to get you to tell me what you where trying to do  but
[06:37] <Jucato> b1n42y: because the repository drivers are already setup to work on Kubuntu and can be easily installed, updated, or removed.
[06:38] <b1n42y> ya i would understand that if you wer using ubuntu ..coz u cant shut down x  bug i think but kubuntu is easy
[06:38] <b1n42y> just did it myself
[06:38] <b1n42y> am newb aswell
[06:39] <sub[t]rnl> can't shut down huh?
[06:39] <b1n42y> nope
[06:39] <sub[t]rnl> heh
[06:39] <b1n42y> init 3 etc doesnt work
[06:39] <Jucato> init 3 isn't shutdown though
[06:39] <sub[t]rnl> :P
[06:39] <sub[t]rnl> i'm fairly sure that if you shutdown -h now
[06:39] <b1n42y> so i went kubuntu coz therz an option to start in console and since i just swicthed to linux i dont minde kde envir.
[06:39] <sub[t]rnl> ubuntu will shutdown
[06:39] <Jucato> and Ubuntu uses a different init system. I'm not sure how it affects the init commands
[06:40] <b1n42y> mmm i had problems shutting it and read thru alot of cr*p
[06:41] <b1n42y> on how to do it...but i never came here so you're prob right
[06:41] <b1n42y> so shutdown -h in terminal or one of the ttys ?
[06:42] <sunny_> hey,hey, No one known about "/usr/share/fonts/X11/misc" refcount is 2, should be 1 fixing
[06:42] <sunny_> ????
[06:42] <sunny_> Help
[06:42] <sunny_> help
[06:43] <b1n42y> newb here..i help what i can ;)
[06:43] <b1n42y> brb
[06:43] <Lam_> how do i center the login details box in the login manager?  i turned off the users list and now it looks weird because the users list is technically not there, but the layout has it displayed as if it was there so there's this huge transparent whitespace to the left of the login details box where the users list was
[06:45] <dangaio> Lam_, you need to edit the /usr/apps/kdm/themes/kubuntu/kubuntu.xml file
[06:46] <Lam_> ah. i'll take a look at that. thanks
[06:48] <Lam_> dangaio: /usr/apps doesn't exist. i found it under /usr/share though
[06:50] <dangaio> Lam_, sorry, I haven't edited that file in so long, I forgot it's under share.
[06:55] <b1n42y> anyway to search through chat ?
[06:56] <b1n42y> in koepete ?
[06:56] <b1n42y> irc ?
[06:58] <Tm_T> b1n42y: Kopete has history plugin
[06:58] <b1n42y> ty does that allow for irc search
[06:59] <b1n42y> anyways ill look into it TY
[07:00] <Lam_> how do i change the kdm theme?
[07:00] <Lam_> i thought i knew how to but kubuntu has it set up differently or something
[07:00] <sub[t]rnl> sudo apt-get install kdmtheme
[07:00] <sub[t]rnl> then look in kcontrol
[07:01] <Lam_> ah that would have helped. thanks
[07:01] <Lam_> why wasn't it installed by default?
[07:01] <sub[t]rnl> guess they didn't feel it important enough to include
[07:01] <b1n42y> 700 mb cds i assume
[07:01] <Lam_> it's only 50kb o_O
[07:01] <b1n42y> adds up
[07:01] <b1n42y> ;p
[07:01] <sub[t]rnl> and its only one command line away
[07:01] <Lam_> lol alright. that helped, so thanks
[07:03] <b1n42y> https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuExtras
[07:03] <b1n42y> thats y i said wot i said
[07:03] <Jucato> Lam_: kdmtheme isn't located in the main repository. it's in universe. we can only include packages from main in the CD
[07:03] <Lam_> ah ok. that's a much more valid reason. thanks
[07:20] <ScorpKing> what log is the messages stored in that's displayed during startup?
[07:20] <sunny_> my system hang on at "Running local boot script (/etc/rc.local) [Ok]"
[07:21] <sunny_> what can I do?
[07:21] <Jucato> ScorpKing: boot or dmesg. not sure which of the two
[07:21] <ScorpKing> ok will check. ty
[07:23] <MilesG> does /etc/motd get reset every time the computer restarts?
[07:26] <ScorpKing> Jucato: none of those. i grepped the /var/log/ dir but none of the boot messages shows up. maybe it's disabled.
[07:27] <Jucato> hm.. I think it's disabled if "quiet" is enabled in the grub entry for that kernel
[07:28] <ScorpKing> hmm.. funny, coz then messages from recovery mode should be logged and they're not.
[07:29] <Jucato> hm... not really sure
[07:31] <b0nn> anyone played with pulseaudio? Im trying to workout how to connect to a pulseaudio server and 'listen' to theoutput
[07:37] <baudthief> omg. Portal is running better on my fesity/wine install than on my winXP install!
[07:38] <baudthief> must... resist... urge to play more
[07:40] <krekon> could I, in any way, to connect a laptop on a desktop that has connection on the internet and the laptop has connection to the internet through this desktop?
[07:41] <kaminix> I can't run any windows programs through Wine. Tried Internet Explorer 6 and something else, but it said I didn't have a DOS dir or something.
[07:41] <ackbahr> kaminix: Maybe IE is not the best choice to try Wine?
[07:42] <ScorpKing> krekon: yes
[07:42] <kaminix> krekon: Yes, should be possible, think it's called a gateway. Don't know how do do it though. ^^
[07:42] <krekon> ScorpKing you know how?
[07:42] <kaminix> ackbahr: I tried some other smaller program too, don't remember which, and I think it said the same thinc.
[07:43] <ackbahr> kaminix: Smaller in the sense of "more stand-alone"?
[07:43] <ScorpKing> krekon: you have to set the gateway to the ip of the box with the internet.
[07:44] <kaminix> ackbahr: Yeah, I think so. Besides, both tho IE and other program were installers. :s
[07:44] <krekon> you mean that I have to change the laptop IP to that of the desktop on the internet?
[07:44] <ackbahr> kaminix: Yep, I never had any luck with "installed" programs....
[07:44] <ScorpKing> krekon: no.
[07:45] <kaminix> ackbahr: But these were installers, meaning it should've atleast shown me the setup window, no?
[07:45] <krekon> dhcp holds ip adress though
[07:45] <ScorpKing> ok. one sec..
[07:45] <ackbahr> kaminix: Ah well yes, if the *program* doesn't start up, at least its *installer* should!
[07:46] <ScorpKing> krekon: the desktop has internet right?
[07:46] <krekon> ScorpKing yes
[07:46] <ScorpKing> krekon: do you know how to setup eyh0 manually on the laptop?
[07:47] <ScorpKing> eth)*
[07:47] <ScorpKing> bah..
[07:47] <krekon> ScorpKing I have never tried it
[07:47] <krekon> ScorpKing is it difficult?
[07:47] <ScorpKing> no
[07:48] <ScorpKing> on the laptop - kdesu kate /etc/network/interfaces and pastebin the file for me.
[07:50] <krekon> ScorpKing "auto lo" and
[07:50] <ScorpKing> !paste
[07:50] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[07:50] <kaminix> ackbahr: Was that sarcastic? :p As far as my experience go, installers usually work with wine, with them all being the same and stuff. ^^
[07:50] <krekon> ScorpKing "iface lo inet loopback"
[07:50] <ScorpKing> put the whole file there ^^
[07:50] <ScorpKing> on patebin
[07:50] <ScorpKing> s*
[07:50] <krekon> aaa
[07:51] <krekon> is this a file?
[07:51] <krekon> with locate i fcould find it
[07:51] <ackbahr> kaminix: Not sarcastic at all, I totally agree with you; the installer should at least start up!
[07:51] <ScorpKing> krekon: open /etc/network/interfaces and patebin it
[07:52] <ackbahr> Well, anyway gotta go (baby woke up and needs a hug).... So long!
[07:52] <kaminix> ackbahr: Ah, well that's both comforting and uncomforting... in a way. :p Nice to see I'm not wrong, bad to see Wine's not working properly.
[07:52] <ScorpKing> !paste | krekon.
[07:52] <ubotu> krekon.: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[07:52] <ScorpKing> krekon: go to that website
[07:55] <krekon> ScorpKing I paste it there
[07:56] <ScorpKing> krekon: copy and paste the url here so i can see it
[07:56] <krekon> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/42664/
[07:56] <ScorpKing> checking..
[07:58] <Demo1> I have mounted three hard disks into a HP Tower server, but Ubuntu cant find them. I have tried to list them with the command "lshw -C disk", but only the CD-ROM is listed. Do anybody have some debugging tips?
[07:58] <ScorpKing> krekon: eth0 is missing. is that the whole file?
[07:59] <krekon> yes
[07:59] <ScorpKing> what does ifconfig show?
[08:00] <krekon> ScorpKing through kinfocenter in network interfaces i can see eth0
[08:00] <ScorpKing> is there an option to configure it mannually?
[08:01] <krekon> through knetwork manager?
[08:01] <ScorpKing> krekon: run knetworkmanager
[08:01] <ScorpKing> yes
[08:01] <krekon> ok
[08:01] <krekon> right klik and configure?
[08:01] <ScorpKing> yes
[08:02] <krekon> ok
[08:03] <krekon> ScorpKing what I have to do now?
[08:03] <ScorpKing> click on eth0 and then Configure
[08:04] <krekon> ok next?
[08:04] <ScorpKing> select Manual and give it an ip in the same range as the one that the desktop box has
[08:04] <krekon> for e.g.
[08:05] <Demo1> I've inserted a new hard disk into my server, but Ubuntu cannot find it. What should I do?
[08:05] <ScorpKing> what is the ip on the desktop box?
[08:05] <krekon> i chang the last number?
[08:05] <ScorpKing> yes
[08:05] <krekon> ok wait
[08:05] <ScorpKing> make netmask <IP_ADDRESS>
[08:06] <ScorpKing> then click on advanced settings and make the gateway the same as the ip on the desktop box
[08:08] <ScorpKing> make broadcast the same as the ip but the last one must be .255
[08:09] <krekon> ScorpKing I did it but it says wring gateway
[08:09] <ScorpKing> Demo1: don't go away
[08:09] <krekon> yes
[08:09] <krekon> but nothing
[08:10] <ScorpKing> krekon: on my box it always does that. not sure why. press OK and open /etc/network/interfaces again. did anything change?
[08:11] <ScorpKing> Demo1: ls /dev/ | grep hd or ls /dev/ | grep sd and see what shows up.
[08:11] <krekon> ScorpKing I have to do something similar to the desktop
[08:12] <ScorpKing> krekon: no.
[08:12] <krekon> ?
[08:12] <ScorpKing> leave the desktop as it is
[08:12] <krekon> about the broadcast I mean
[08:12] <ScorpKing> no. if it's working leave it
[08:13] <krekon> ok
[08:13] <krekon> thanks anyway
[08:13] <grainwave> nickserv HELP
[08:13] <ScorpKing> krekon: what does /etc/network/interfaces have in it now?
[08:13] <Demo1> ScorpKin: "ls /dev/ | grep hd" did not return anything, but "ls /dev/ | grep sd" returned "ptysd" and "ttysd"
[08:14] <krekon> ScorpKing the same
[08:15] <ScorpKing> krekon: ok. gimme a sec and i'll pastebin the settings for you.
[08:15] <krekon> ScorpKing no
[08:15] <krekon> wait
[08:15] <ScorpKing> hm..?
[08:15] <krekon> I had to change the default gateway from routes too
[08:15] <ScorpKing> o ok.
[08:16] <Demo1> ScorpKing: I have four hard disk. The first is "/dev/cciss/codo", but I cannot find the three others.
[08:16] <krekon> pastebin it comings
[08:18] <ScorpKing> Demo1: ls /dev/ | grep sc maybe?
[08:19] <Demo1> ScorpKing: "ptysc", "scd0" and "ttysc" is returned
[08:20] <ScorpKing> Demo1: run sudo lshw | less and look for "logical name: /dev/?" under disk
[08:20] <krekon> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/42667/
[08:22] <ScorpKing> krekon: that ip does not seem right. run ifconfig eth0 on the desktop box
[08:23] <fernando__> how can i konqueror with ssh???
[08:24] <fernando__> anyone here :-)
[08:24] <sub[t]rnl> how d
[08:24] <ScorpKing> no :P
[08:24] <Demo1> ScorpKing: cannot find disk, but disc under the *-cdrom tab.
[08:24] <Jucato> fernando__: just use fish:/ or sftp:/ in Konqueror
[08:24] <fernando__> thanks.. :-
[08:25] <fernando__> Jucato.. thanks :-)
[08:25] <krekon> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/42668/
[08:25] <juan> k
[08:26] <juan> huoh
[08:26] <ScorpKing> krekon: eth0 is down. how do you connect to the internet on that box?
[08:27] <krekon> through usb
[08:27] <ScorpKing> it will have ppp0 then. ugh
[08:27] <ScorpKing> one sec..
[08:30] <fernando__> Jucato, where I can find instruction to install nvidia drivers for the last kubuntu 7.10??
[08:30] <Jucato> !nvidia | fernando__
[08:30] <ubotu> fernando__: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[08:30] <fernando__> !nvidia
[08:30] <ScorpKing> krekon: make /etc/network/interfaces on the laptop like this - http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/42669/
[08:32] <fernando__> Jucato, before I continues with the ndivia drivers... I want to install the 3D desktop of kubuntu.. I did it some time ago, but probably everythings have change... can you give me some tips???
[08:32] <ScorpKing> krekon: and on the desktop - http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/42670/
[08:33] <Jucato> fernando__: sorry, don't know anything about compiz
[08:33] <fernando__> jucato: ok..thanks anyway
[08:34] <ScorpKing> Demo1: look in /var/log/messages and see if there is anything about the disks. check in kinfocenter as well.
[08:34] <fernando__> Is Beryl the best 3D desktop for kubuntu??
[08:35] <krekon> ScorpKing ok done
[08:35] <krekon> what is next?
[08:36] <ScorpKing> do you have a hub/router or are you going to connect the two machines directly?
[08:36] <krekon> directly
[08:36] <ScorpKing> you have a crossover cable?
[08:36] <krekon> yes
[08:37] <krekon> it is not the same ethernet cable?
[08:37] <ScorpKing> the wires are connected differently
[08:37] <krekon> what do you mean?
[08:38] <Demo1> ScorpKing: There is a message that is listed many times: "Additional sense: Medium not present" \ "end_request: I/O error, dev sr0, sector 0" \ "sr 0:0:0:0: Device not ready: <6>: Current: sense key: Not Ready"
[08:38] <ScorpKing> on the one side the orange and green pairs are swapped for crossover
[08:39] <fernando__> any software like winamp for linux?? which one search for some internet radios to play???
[08:40] <Jucato> fernando__: have you tried Amarok?
[08:40] <ScorpKing> krekon: anyway, plug the cable in and run sudo ifdown eth0 && sudo ifup eth0
[08:40] <ScorpKing> fernando__: xmms
[08:40] <krekon> ScorpKing on laptop
[08:41] <ScorpKing> both
[08:41] <ScorpKing> Demo1: ls /dev/ | grep sr - anything?
[08:41] <tapas> in feisty removable usb drives that were attached to the computer upon logging into kde were automatically mounted
[08:42] <tapas> since the update to gutsy this doesn't happen no more
[08:42] <tapas> how can i fix this?
[08:43] <fernando__> ScropKing: but xmms doesn't have the feature for search internet radios... right??
[08:43] <krekon> ScorpKing:  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/42671/
[08:44] <krekon> for desktop
[08:44] <Demo1> ScorpKing: returns "sr0"
[08:44] <tapas> there's a disk and file system dialog in the system settings -> advanced
[08:44] <tapas> but it seems to be for fstab only
[08:45] <tapas> using direct names in media:/ e.g. media:/42G\ Media
[08:45] <tapas> doesn't work either
[08:45] <tapas> grmbl
[08:45] <tapas> well, off to work.. laters
[08:46] <sebastian^> good morning folks
[08:46] <ScorpKing> krekon: ifconfig eth0 on the desktop. is it up?
[08:47] <fernando__> !beryl
[08:47] <ubotu> Beryl has been merged with Compiz to form Compiz-Fusion.  New Beryl installs are discouraged. See also !compiz
[08:48] <fernando__> !compiz
[08:48] <ubotu> Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion
[08:48] <ScorpKing> Demo1: does the disks show in the BIOS? i'm out of ideas for now. ask in ##linux and #ubuntu as well.
[08:50] <fernando__> !nvidia
[08:50] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[08:53] <ScorpKing> krekon: any news?
[08:53] <krekon> ScorpKing:  wait a min
[08:53] <ScorpKing> hehe. ok
[08:54] <krekon> ScorpKing I just installed knetmanager on desktop
[08:55] <krekon> ScorpKing and it says that net interface eth0 is active
[08:55] <ScorpKing> good
[08:55] <ScorpKing> on both?
[08:55] <krekon> yes
[08:55] <ScorpKing> ping google.com
[08:56] <krekon> from laptop nothing
[08:57] <ScorpKing> ping the desktop (<IP_ADDRESS>) from the laptop
[08:57] <jbbarnes> Hi. I'm told runlevels are different on Debin-based systems. How can I tell what runlevel I'm at?
[08:57] <ScorpKing> runlevel
[08:57] <krekon> "network is unreachable"
[08:57] <fernando__> !compiz
[08:57] <ubotu> Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion
[08:58] <jbbarnes> Thanks. In SuSE and RH systems, you can edit initab to set your default runlevel. How can you do that in Kubuntu?
[08:58] <ScorpKing> krekon: is the wires on that cable the same on both sides?
[08:59] <krekon> wait
[08:59] <krekon> ScorpKing yes it is
[09:01] <jbbarnes> I know that the whole initab thing is different on systems using upstart, but am not sure how to change the default level.
[09:02] <ScorpKing> i think that's the problem. what are the order of the colors when the flat side of the connector face you? w/o o g/w b b/w g br/w br ??
[09:03] <Demo1> ScorpKing: I'm in the BIOS. I'm not really sure what I'm looking for, but the HP Smart Array Controller E200i shows in the BIOS
[09:06] <smorg> hi
[09:06] <smorg> i'm having trouble compiling the vidalia gui controler for the Tor network client...
[09:06] <smorg> anyone try this under kubuntu?
[09:07] <ScorpKing> Demo1: i've never worked with a setup like that so i'm not sure what's it supposed to show.
[09:07] <smorg> configure: error: C++ compiler cannot create executables
[09:08] <ScorpKing> Demo1: maybe it's picked up as a raid disk. try sudo cfdisk /dev/sr0 or any of the others that it might be.
[09:09] <ScorpKing> smorg: you have no compiler installed
[09:09] <ScorpKing> !build
[09:09] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[09:09] <ScorpKing> !find build-essential
[09:09] <ubotu> Found: build-essential
[09:10] <ScorpKing> smorg: install build-essential
[09:10] <fernando__> I have compiz running but I can found how to define shortcuts.. anyone know if is that possible??
[09:10] <kazuma_> hi all how do i use compiz fusion on kde?
[09:10] <smorg> ah thx, I thought kubuntu came with gcc preinstalled... and it already did lots of logging.
[09:10] <kazuma_> i have gutsy gibbon runing
[09:11] <ScorpKing> !compiz
[09:11] <ubotu> Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion
[09:11] <kazuma_> thanks
[09:11] <ScorpKing> np
[09:14] <kazuma_> that man is for gutsy right?
[09:16] <ScorpKing> yes
[09:18] <Demo1> ScorpKing: it returns fatal error
[09:18] <ScorpKing> Demo1: did you try any of the other ones it might be?
[09:21] <Demo1> ScorpKing: Yes, all the same. I did "cfdisk /dev/ccisss/c0d0" and I see the partitions Primary and Logical which are c0d0p1 and c0d0p5 respectivily.
[09:22] <ScorpKing> Demo1: are c0d0 the size it's supposed to be?
[09:23] <ubunturos> what resoultion does kdm depend on when starting the system?
[09:25] <Jucato> ubunturos: afaik the highest resolution in the default depth in xorg.conf
[09:25] <Demo1> ScorpKing: Yes, for the first disk. But the problem is that I cannot find the other disks
[09:26] <ScorpKing> that's odd..
[09:26] <ubunturos> Jucato: umm, when I say resolution, I'm referring to numbers 800 x 600, 1024 ...
[09:26] <Jucato> ubunturos: yes I know. why?
[09:26] <ubunturos> Jucato: default depth would refer to 24 dpi ?
[09:27] <Jucato>  <Jucato> ubunturos: afaik the highest resolution in the default depth in xorg.conf
[09:27] <lcx> ?
[09:27] <Jucato> I didn't say just the default depth did I?
[09:27] <lcx> ?
[09:27] <ScorpKing> Demo1: can you pastebin the output of lshw?
[09:27] <ubunturos> Jucato: I probably still don't get it. Could you make it simpler?
[09:27] <the-tomic> help please - where do i setup network workgroup to see other win xp computers/printers on my network
[09:28] <flaccid> !samba | the-tomic
[09:28] <ubotu> the-tomic: samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[09:28] <the-tomic> thx
[09:28] <flaccid> np
[09:28] <Jucato> ubunturos: look at your xorg.conf. each Depth has a set of resolutions (Modes)
[09:28] <ubunturos> Jucato: ok, I'll do that
[09:29] <lcx> why can not i?
[09:29] <smorg> sweet got tor+vidalia+privoxy all goin :-)
[09:29] <lcx> the resulti as follows:
[09:29] <lcx> lcx@lcx-desktop:~$ samba
[09:29] <lcx> bash: samba：找不到命令
[09:32] <flaccid> result of what?
[09:32] <flaccid> samba is not a command
[09:33] <foxhound31> compiz fusion does it still have a bad effect on wine?
[09:33] <foxhound31> and if so how do i turn it off?
[09:34] <darklos> hello
[09:35] <ubunturos> !hi | darklos
[09:35] <ubotu> darklos: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!
[09:35] <Demo1> ScorpKing: sorry, what do you mean by pastebin?
[09:35] <ScorpKing> !paste
[09:36] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[09:36] <darklos> waw itś realy cool Kubuntu
[09:36] <ubunturos> darklos: :)
[09:37] <darklos> just change from linspire to kubuntu
[09:38] <babar> onjjour
[09:39] <babar> need help pour mettre en reseau un pc sous linux sur un reseau avec que des windaubes
[09:39] <darklos> how i use adept updater?
[09:39] <Demo1> ScorpKing: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/42672/
[09:44] <ubuntu> hi
[09:44] <ubuntu> is that polish channel???/
[09:45] <Tm_T> !pl | ubuntu
[09:45] <ubotu> ubuntu: Mozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu-pl
[09:45] <ubuntu> #ubuntu-pl
[09:45] <ubuntu> !pl | ubuntu
[09:45] <Tm_T> ubuntu: /j #ubuntu-pl
[09:49] <ScorpKing> Demo1: it looks like there is something on google. one sec..
[09:52] <ScorpKing> Demo1: search for - HP Smart Array Controller E200i ubuntu - on google. i'm a bit busy atm.
[10:02] <dangaio> Ok, I just upgraded a computer to 7.10, when I rebooted it, all I get is a black screen and not even pressing CTRL+ALT+F2 gives me a virtual term with a log in prompt.  Can someone help me?
[10:04] <kazuma_> help with compiz fusion
[10:04] <kazuma_> pls
[10:05] <Jucato> !compiz | kazuma_
[10:05] <ubotu> kazuma_: Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion
[10:21] <WaltzingAlong> kazuma_: also check the compiz fusion wiki
[10:24] <WaltzingAlong> kazuma_: ... it answers the important question 'where is the cube!'
[10:33] <WaltzingAlong> dangaio: still there? still seeking help?
[10:34] <greencookie> Hey guys. How do I make nautilus default file manager in kubuntu?
[10:34] <WaltzingAlong> wish to replace dolphin with konqueror? follow the instructions at http://sathyasays.com/?p=23 but the opposite (as the article is how to replace konqueror with dolphin) | greencookie you can follow these instructions but use nautilus in place of references to dolphin (as default) or konqueror (as default)
[10:35] <Jucato> !dolphin
[10:35] <ubotu> dolphin is the new default file manager for Kubuntu 7.10 Gutsy Gibbon. If you would like to make Konqueror your default file manager again, go to Konqueror → Settings menu - Configure Konqueror - File Associations and change the association for inode/directory to Konqueror at the top rather than Dolphin.
[10:35] <Jucato> WaltzingAlong: convenient factoid just for you :)
[10:35] <Jucato> so that I don't have to trigger you...
[10:36] <greencookie> ok WaltzingAlong thnx.
[10:36] <WaltzingAlong> Jucato: sure that works for directories but what of the other items like media:/ and system:/ ? those too ?
[10:36] <WaltzingAlong> ;d
[10:36] <greencookie> I think I'll leave it as it is:)
[10:36] <greencookie> I've never used KDE before.
[10:36] <WaltzingAlong> greencookie: welcome to KDE!
[10:37] <greencookie> So don't wanna "accidentally" mess things up.
[10:37] <Jucato> WaltzingAlong: that should work fine too. inode/system_directory is dependent on inode/directory afaik
[10:37] <kaminix> How do I make KGet ask me where to save each file when using "Download with KGet" via the Konq menu?
[10:37] <greencookie> Well, I actually got forced into accepting KDE! Everyone kept saying GNOME is for beginners:) hehe.
[10:37] <Jucato> kaminix: that should be the default behavior. it will ask you where to download it.
[10:38] <Jucato> kaminix: but have you enabled KGet-Konqueror integration?
[10:38] <kaminix> Yeah, I suppose so. KGet is default dload managet.
[10:38] <kaminix> *manager
[10:38] <kaminix> I'm downloading via Krusader though, but it's in the Konq menu.
[10:39] <Jucato> ah... kget integration only works with konqueror. not sure if it does with krusader
[10:42] <kaminix> Jucato: But it's on the Konqueror menu. Now that I downloaded multiple files it asked me though.. :s
[10:45] <Tolsty_Kot> Hello! Who knows in wich file I can change a standard path to the directory /media? Now I have all mounted under /home/Oleksandr/media. I want to change this path for buttons "System Menu", wich occupated near K-menu buttons, left-down on the detskop. (I want to press button "Media" in System menu, and go to /home/Oleksandr/media).
[10:47] <greencookie> Quick question: How do I enable 3d mode on my KDE? Do I have to download some kind of software?
[10:47] <WaltzingAlong> greencookie: compiz?
[10:47] <Tm_T> greencookie: 3d mode?
[10:47] <WaltzingAlong> Kubuntu Gutsy is not shipping with compiz-fusion installed (or enabled). It can still be installed though. Follow the instructions for gutsy at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion . for more, ask in #compiz-fusion & see http://wiki.compiz-fusion.org/ | greencookie
[10:47] <Tm_T> WaltzingAlong: trying to replace ubotu?
[10:47] <greencookie> Tm_T, When I try to play the chess game in 3d mode it says install python open gl or something and gtk
[10:48] <WaltzingAlong> Tm_T: no
[10:48] <Tm_T> greencookie: well uhm, what chess game?
[10:48] <greencookie> '3D Chess Game' but there's nothing three dimensional about it:)
[10:48] <Tm_T> greencookie: and be more precise
[10:48] <WaltzingAlong> greencookie: you may mean direct rendering. which video card/chipset do you have? ati? nvidia? sis? intel?
[10:48] <greencookie> ATI:)
[10:49] <WaltzingAlong> !ati | greencookie
[10:49] <greencookie> Sorry TM_T kinda new here
[10:49] <ubotu> greencookie: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[10:49] <Tm_T> greencookie: no problemo
[10:49] <greencookie> I downloaded the ATI driver from website and enabled them. Now I still dont have 3D:(
[10:49] <numan> i am having problem with ekiga phone with no sound input and output
[10:49] <WaltzingAlong> numan: run through the config wizard. does sound work elsewhere?
[10:50] <greencookie> Can someone help me enable 3d?
[10:51] <Tolsty_Kot> Who knows in wich file I can change a standard path to the directory /media? Now I have all mounted under /home/Oleksandr/media. I want to change this path for buttons "System Menu", wich is near K-menu buttons, left-down on the detskop. (I want to press button "Media" in System menu, and go to /home/Oleksandr/media).
[10:51] <WaltzingAlong> greencookie: pastebin your /etc/X11/xorg.conf and /var/log/Xorg.0.log files
[10:51] <WaltzingAlong> !pastebin | greencookie
[10:51] <ubotu> greencookie: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[10:51] <WaltzingAlong> Tolsty_Kot: using dolphin or konqueror?
[10:52] <Tolsty_Kot> konqueror
[10:52] <Tolsty_Kot> WaltzingAlong:
[10:53] <Tolsty_Kot> Sorry, I think, my English is bad// :(
[10:53] <greencookie> WaltzingAlong, Xorg.conf - http://paste.ubuntu.com/1501/
[10:54] <WaltzingAlong> Tolsty_Kot: you could right mouse click on the media system item in konqueror, select properties, then URL,changing it to the path you wish. not sure how to get media:/ register as /home/Oleksandr/media though
[10:54] <greencookie> WaltzingAlong, xorg.0.log - http://paste.ubuntu.com/1502/
[10:55] <WaltzingAlong> greencookie: the driver in use is 'vesa'; it needs to be 'ati' for the open source driver for ati cards or 'fglrx' for the proprietary driver for ati cards
[10:56] <WaltzingAlong> greencookie: you followed the restricted manager to install the fglrx driver?
[10:56] <userah> hey! Can somebody tell me, where`s - /etc/rc.d/rc.firewall(slackware) in kubuntu? thanks
[10:56] <greencookie> I do know how to access the restricted manager window.
[10:56] <flaccid> userah, what firewall is it?
[10:56] <greencookie> WaltzingAlong, when I try to enable the ATI accelerated card and reboot, my screen is blank:(
[10:57] <userah> flaccid: generated
[10:58] <flaccid> userah, there is a firewall called generated?
[10:58] <flaccid> um you want iptables?
[10:58] <userah> no I mean the firewall is generated from the web - flaccid
[10:58] <WaltzingAlong> greencookie: ok so make a copy of the log then to send when you set it back to vesa or check the log for the error, remember it for when you return here. sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg -phigh        can reconfigure X for you  (ctrl+alt+f1 to access a tty)    when reconfiguring, 'vesa' should always work, but give 'ati' a try too (restricted manager will enable 'fglrx')
[10:58] <Tolsty_Kot> WaltzingAlong: thanks, I will try, but may I have root-mode of konqueror?
[10:59] <greencookie> WaltzingAlong, I understood everything except making copy of my log. Which log are you talking about?
[11:00] <WaltzingAlong> greencookie: the log you sent to me of X /var/log/Xorg.0.log    so something like             cp /var/log/Xorg.0.log ~/Xorg.0.log
[11:03] <greencookie> WaltzingAlong, How do I make my 'ati' my driver. Its currently 'vesa'. I tried 'flgrx' before didnt work. The way I did it was sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[11:03] <WaltzingAlong> greencookie: same command just pick ati in the list instead of fglrx
[11:04] <greencookie> ok
[11:04] <greencookie> brb
[11:04] <greencookie> Shoot Ctrl+alt+f1 doesnt work for me. :(
[11:04] <greencookie> Whats the command for running terminal?:)
[11:05] <WaltzingAlong> yeah usually that ctrl+alt+ f1 through f6
[11:05] <dangaio> greencookie, try ctrl+alt+f2
[11:05] <dangaio> If not reboot in recovery mode.
[11:06] <greencookie> I tried ctrl+alt+f1,2,3,4,5,6,7 doesnt work:)
[11:06] <greencookie> brb
[11:06] <bjwebb> hi
[11:06] <bjwebb> im using xine-plugin for firefox
[11:07] <bjwebb> 1) is there anyway i can change the settings (to get it to work nice with compiz)
[11:07] <bjwebb> 2) can i control the playback?
[11:07] <flaccid> userah, are you using iptables?
[11:07] <flaccid> !iptables
[11:07] <ubotu> Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).
[11:08] <WaltzingAlong> !info guidedog
[11:08] <ubotu> guidedog: NAT/masquerading/port-forwarding configuration tool for KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.0-3ubuntu2 (gutsy), package size 124 kB, installed size 444 kB
[11:08] <WaltzingAlong> !info guarddog
[11:08] <ubotu> guarddog: firewall configuration utility for KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.5.0-1ubuntu3 (gutsy), package size 482 kB, installed size 1436 kB
[11:09] <userah> flaccid: nope
[11:10] <flaccid> nope what
[11:10] <bjwebb> can anyone help me?
[11:11] <WaltzingAlong> bjwebb: those who know your answer and are here usually answer; btw i use mplayer with firefox
[11:11] <flaccid> !help
[11:11] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[11:11] <userah> flaccid: I`m note using iptables
[11:11] <flaccid> !ask | bjwebb
[11:11] <ubotu> bjwebb: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[11:11] <WaltzingAlong> !info mozilla-mplayer
[11:11] <flaccid> sorry
[11:11] <ubotu> mozilla-mplayer: MPlayer-Plugin for Mozilla. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 3.40-5ubuntu5 (gutsy), package size 505 kB, installed size 1760 kB
[11:11] <flaccid> i missed your Q. perhaps try #firefox
[11:12] <flaccid> userah, what are you using
[11:12] <bjwebb> flaccid: yeah it was about configuring the xine-player
[11:12] <flaccid> bjwebb, my bad. sorry mate i wish i could advise. try #ubuntu-effects for the compiz issue
[11:12] <userah> flaccid There`s that firewall generator http://www.slackware.com/~alien/efg/index.php
[11:12] <bjwebb> flaccid: i know what the issue is, its actually the driver
[11:13] <bjwebb> but i got kopete to play nicely by changing a video setting
[11:13] <userah> flaccid: nothg for now, just install it
[11:13] <bjwebb> i jsut wondered if there was settings somewhere for the plugin
[11:13] <flaccid> bjwebb, i would contact the authors. problem xine is pretty slow and unactive and lacks doco so good luck
[11:13] <flaccid> userah, it is iptables...
[11:13] <flaccid> says it in the header
[11:14] <flaccid> i will check the file for you
[11:14] <userah> thanks!
[11:15] <bjwebb> WaltzingAlong: do you know if you could change the settings of an mplayer plugin?
[11:15] <anto> Can somone explain what "err:dsound:DSOUND_MixOne underrun on sound buffer 0xd9dce10" means?
[11:15] <WaltzingAlong> bjwebb: right mouse click on it in the browser
[11:17] <greencookie> hey WaltzingAlong, neither 'ati' nor 'flgrx' worked:(
[11:17] <flaccid> bjwebb, did you read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo ?
[11:17] <bjwebb> i don't want itables!
[11:17] <flaccid> bjwebb, thats what you are using so yes you want it
[11:18] <flaccid> bjwebb, the site you linked was titled "Easy Firewall Generator for IPTables"
[11:18] <bjwebb> no, but that link wasn't for me was it
[11:18] <flaccid> yes it was
[11:18] <bjwebb> flaccid: aren't you meant to be talking to useah?
[11:18] <bjwebb> userah rather
[11:18] <flaccid> it advises the location of the firewall rules which is what you want
[11:19] <bjwebb> no its is not!
[11:19] <flaccid> ah shit
[11:19] <flaccid> my bad
[11:19] <bjwebb> lol
[11:19] <flaccid> forgive me i can't read this terminal very well
[11:19] <bjwebb> konversation ftw
[11:19] <WaltzingAlong> greencookie: alt+f2        kdesu kate /etc/X11/xorg.conf                  find the part about BusID then put a # in front of it to comment it out.                  like this http://paste.ubuntu.com/1503/
[11:19] <flaccid> well whoever wants the default rules file for iptables: /etc/iptables.rules
[11:20] <flaccid> please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo  for howto on firewall for ubuntu
[11:20] <flaccid> bjwebb, you want xine stuff right?
[11:20] <bjwebb> yeah xine-plugin
[11:20] <flaccid> bjwebb, whats the undesired behaviour?
[11:20] <bjwebb> well the video is mucked up with compiz, but thats true of all video players
[11:21] <bjwebb> i have to change a setting to get it to do the video in a simpler way
[11:21] <flaccid> ah you can only take it up with xine people unfortunately. i've tried this in the past and its difficult.
[11:21] <flaccid> unless you believe its the UI and not the codec..
[11:21] <flaccid> hard to say i guess
[11:21] <flaccid> !bugs
[11:21] <ubotu> If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.ubuntu.com/  -  Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/products/ubuntu-bots
[11:21] <bjwebb> i can fix it in kaffeine
[11:21] <flaccid> raise a bug on it and see the response
[11:22] <bjwebb> the problems actualy the vid. driver
[11:22] <bjwebb> this is just a way round
[11:22] <flaccid> if you think its the vid driver, take it up with them...
[11:22] <userah> flaccid: thank you!
[11:22] <flaccid> not much else you can do but report it
[11:22] <bjwebb> flaccid: nah my gfx card driver
[11:22] <flaccid> unless you are a dev
[11:22] <bjwebb> but if i switch video driver iit works
[11:23] <bjwebb> from auto to xshm in kaffeine
[11:23] <bjwebb> i want to know how i change the same setting for the plugin
[11:23] <flaccid> hard to pinpoint the problem. i would just raise a bug under ubuntu to begin with
[11:23] <bjwebb> its the gfx card driver im sure, can't to compiz and vid at same time
[11:23] <frizz> аг
[11:23] <bjwebb> but the xshm videodriver in kaffeine works
[11:24] <bjwebb> so i  want to use that driver in xine plugin
[11:24] <frizz> гыыыыыыыыыыыы
[11:24] <bjwebb> ↑↑↑↑ wtf
[11:24] <frizz> fuck
[11:24] <flaccid> um thats a dif driver so um yeah tis a dif dirver
[11:24] <flaccid> !en
[11:24] <ubotu> The #ubuntu, #kubuntu and #xubuntu channels are english only. For a complete list of channels in other languages, please visit http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat
[11:24] <flaccid> i mean codec
[11:33] <hellhound> is there anything special with using sudo visudo?  for some reason my new line does not seem to work.  I added "use ALL=NOPASSWD: /usr/sbin/g15daemon" and i am still required to use my password when i run "sudo /usr/sbin/g15daemon"
[11:36] <icewaterman> hi
[11:37] <icewaterman> i want an icon on my desktop to do exactly as the Suspend button in Log Out menu does. what command is executed by that button?
[11:37] <WaltzingAlong> icewaterman: suspend?
[11:38] <icewaterman> WaltzingAlong: it does not launch suspend
[11:38] <icewaterman> i know that because even root cannot execute that one with success.
[11:38] <icewaterman> one thing it definately does is /usr/bin/kdesktop_lock --forcelock
[11:39] <icewaterman> and as far as i can tell next thing to be executed is "/bin/sh ./linux/hal-system-power-suspend-linux"
[11:39] <icewaterman> however what script is behind this?
[11:40] <icewaterman> uhm and also "/bin/bash /etc/acpi/sleep.sh force" gets executed
[11:42] <icewaterman> however it seems that /usr/lib/hal/scripts/linux/hal-system-power-suspend-linux executes the /etc/acpi/sleep.sh
[11:42] <WaltzingAlong> icewaterman: maybe ask in #kubuntu-devel ? or #kde
[11:42] <jussi01> !dual head
[11:42] <ubotu> Information about dual-head on linux can be found on http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/DualHead - See also !Xinerama
[11:42] <jussi01> !xinerama
[11:42] <ubotu> xinerama is an extension to !X to use two or more physical displays as one large virtual display. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XineramaHowTo - See also !DualHead
[11:43] <serzholino> !apport
[11:43] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about apport - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[11:44] <kaminix> Anyone now a good English - English dictionary for KDE? I know I can find loads of them by randomly searching with apt, but any recommentadions?
[11:44] <pbn> english-english ? did you have a few beers ? heh
[11:45] <pbn> you want to translate English to English ?
[11:45] <kaminix> pbn: Such as Oxford advanced learners thinge or an encyclopedia like thingie.
[11:45] <icewaterman> kaminix: pbn well there are uni-language dictionaries, more like an encyclopedia
[11:45] <pbn> oh yes, now I get it
[11:46] <pbn> yeah I know Oxford's, I've got it
[11:46] <icewaterman> kaminix: due to the size i suspect you do not want to download but rather look the stuff up online (en.wikipedia.org)
[11:46] <kaminix> Swedish-English would be nice too, but somehow I doubt I'll find one :p
[11:47] <kaminix> icewaterman: Nah, looking it up offline is nice too. Besides, Wikipedia goes pretty much into detail.
[11:47] <crazy_bus> I installed compiz-fusion and then uninstalled it.  However I've now lost alt+tab  How do I get it back?
[11:47] <icewaterman> kaminix: didnt kbabel translate such stuff?
[11:47] <kaminix> icewaterman: What is Kbabel?
[11:48] <icewaterman> kaminix: kbabel is some translator program
[11:49] <WaltzingAlong> !info kdict
[11:49] <ubotu> kdict: dictionary client for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.8-0ubuntu2 (gutsy), package size 297 kB, installed size 876 kB
[11:49] <icewaterman> WaltzingAlong: right, kdict is better
[11:49] <kaminix> icewaterman: Says "PO-file editing suite for KDE" in apt for babel.
[11:49] <kaminix> Thanks WaltzingAlong, I'll look :)
[11:49] <fulat2k> hi folks, i've got a dlink dwl-g122 rev c1 usb wifi stick.  kubuntu detects it out of the box with the rt73 module.  but i can't seem to connect to any APs.  any ideas?
[11:51] <Kred> Hi. There's an app (KpoGre) which I'd want but it's not in the repos nor I can't find any packages of it. There are SuSE packages of it, should I try to use those or build from source?
[11:53] <flaccid> !alien | Kred
[11:53] <ubotu> Kred: RPM is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu uses !APT, not RPM. RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous)
[11:53] <flaccid> suse uses rpm iirc
[11:53] <Kred> Yes. I asked because of alien but.. :I
[11:54] <WaltzingAlong> Kred: build from source
[11:54] <flaccid> i would try alien then source myself
[11:54] <Kred> ok
[11:55] <Kred> Thanks for the answers :)
[11:55] <ole> Kred: i would build from source and use checkinstall to build a package
[11:55] <flaccid> np
[11:56] <flaccid> if compile/install is no problem as in its provided then do that
[11:56] <flaccid> see how you go on the deps etc.
[11:57] <crazy_bus> so no one knows how to re-enable alt+tab switching?
[11:57] <flaccid> crazy_bus, try #kde
[11:57] <flaccid> check your shortcuts etc. in kcontrol
[11:57] <flaccid> its all in there
[11:58] <jussi01> Hmmm, can you use displayconfig-gtk on kubuntu?
[11:58] <jussi01> !info displayconfig-gtk
[11:58] <ubotu> displayconfig-gtk: Simple tool to change xserver settings. In component main, is optional. Version 0.3.7 (gutsy), package size 48 kB, installed size 604 kB
[11:58] <jussi01> ...
[11:58] <flaccid> yes you can jussi01
[11:58] <jussi01> thanks flaccid :)
[11:58] <flaccid> np
[11:58] <flaccid> most gtk apps will work
[11:59] <crazy_bus> thanks flaccid
[11:59] <jussi01> yeah, was just checking that it wasnt playing with gnome only settings
[11:59] <flaccid> it should be abstracted totally. gnome is a de not a tk
[12:00] <jussi01> oh, yeah, what was the command to refresh kicker?
[12:00] <flaccid> killall kicker && kicker
[12:00] <flaccid> um
[12:00] <flaccid> killall kicker; kicker
[12:00] <jussi01> hmmm, thought there was some dcop thing
[12:00] <flaccid> if not
[12:00] <flaccid> ah ok, probably sorry there probably is
[12:06] <timri> dcop kicker kicker restart
[12:07] <jari> my laptop is melting.. it's really warm but it didnt get this warm while using windows
[12:07] <flaccid> try ##windows
[12:09] <jussi01> sigh
[12:10] <timri> jussi01: dcop kicker kicker restart
[12:10] <jussi01> timri: thanks. all sorted with that now. its this dual head setup thats the issue
[12:14] <timri> the session manager doesnt like the network-manager it seems. all saved konqueror windows fail because the network has not come up yet. Anyone know a way around ? a ifup hook or something?
[12:15] <dave200202> hello mates
[12:15] <WaltzingAlong> hello dates
[12:15] <flaccid> i gtg
[12:15] <jari> is there anything you can do to cool down the PC?
[12:15] <WaltzingAlong> jari: use the power saving settings? switch to powersave or dynamic modes
[12:16] <timri> jari: use top to see if a process is eating up all your cpu (strigi does that sometimes)
[12:16] <WaltzingAlong> i have not seen strigi since sudo aptitude purge strigi...
[12:17] <timri> WaltzingAlong: been there and done that too... hehe poor jos
[12:17] <jari> thanks, strigi is not running
[12:17] <jari> WaltzingAlong: where can I find the power saving settings?
[12:18] <WaltzingAlong> jari: guidance-power-manager
[12:19] <jari> WaltzingAlong: sorry I dont know where is guidance? Im looking from system settings
[12:19] <WaltzingAlong> jari: alt+f2   then guidance-power-manager        or            it may already be running next to the clock as 'power manager'
[12:20] <timri> jari: alt-f2, or use a konsole
[12:20] <Kred> Hey I'm seeing ksysguard eating my CPU..
[12:21] <timri> Kred: that's fairly normal, use top, it is a quite a bit lighter
[12:21] <Kred> Oh ok :)
[12:21] <jari> WaltzingAlong: it could not be started because an instance was already running
[12:22] <Kred> Btw, I don't see trackerd installed. Is it only for Ubuntu?
[12:22] <kolla> Is this KDE or something else? I only have it on my gutsy box:  http://amiga.nvg.org/moro/volum.png
[12:22] <WaltzingAlong> jari: ok then there is likely the icon for it already in the systray next to the clock
[12:22] <WaltzingAlong> kde!
[12:22] <Jucato> kolla: it's a known bug with KMilo
[12:22] <kolla> when I press XF86AudioRaiseVolume/XF86AudioLowerVolume that's the one that shows up
[12:22] <WaltzingAlong> Kred: for ubuntu/gnome
[12:22] <timri> WaltzingAlong: you didnt forget to remove the strigi cache did you? aptitude purge doesnt remove it
[12:23] <jari> WaltzingAlong: ah yes thank you
[12:23] <kolla> Jucato: aha.. it just swaps between 0% and 11%, is that normal? :)
[12:23] <Kred> WaltzingAlong: good :) I don't want such thing in my laptop :)
[12:23] <Kred> Thanks!
[12:23] <Jucato> kolla: it's not normal. it's a bug. and it has been reported already
[12:23] <WaltzingAlong> rm -r ~/.strigi ? and the like, sure did
[12:23] <kolla> Jucato: ok
[12:23] <Jucato> strigi and dolphin are getting too much bad publicity because of this :(
[12:23] <Jucato> (the *real* dolphin)
[12:24] <timri> Jucato: On my system dolphin went the way of the dodo.
[12:24] <jussi01> grrrr...
[12:24] <Jucato> timri: it flew? :D
[12:24] <timri> Jucato: It sank like a stone
[12:25] <Jucato> poor dodos... they can neither fly, nor swim it seems :D
[12:25] <kolla> Jucato: so "normal" would be to get the usual big volume gauge? :)
[12:26] <Jucato> kolla: no. the normal would be that it can go beyond 11% :D
[12:26] <timri> anyone know of a way to get the session manager to wait restoring until after the network has come up?
[12:26] <Jucato> kolla: it's normal that it looks like that. it's a new theme for kmilo
[12:26] <timri> Jucato: This one goes to eleven!
[12:28] <kolla> Jucato: ah, ok
[12:29] <kolla> Jucato: but..uhm.. is it also normal that it doesnt actually make any difference to the sound level?
[12:29] <Jucato> that I don't know :)
[12:29] <kolla> normal.. as in, part of this bug :)
[12:32] <hydrogen> hey
[12:32] <hydrogen> someone broke the topic!
[12:33] <Jucato> ?
[12:33] <hydrogen> the last not-a-link
[12:33] <hydrogen> is missing a ubuntu
[12:33] <Jucato> it's a link here
[12:33] <hydrogen> not a working one
[12:33] <Jucato> working here
[12:34] <hydrogen> its supposed to be /HelpingKubuntu
[12:34] <WaltzingAlong> hydrogen:  https://wiki.kubuntu.org/HelpingKubuntu ?
[12:34] <Jucato> https://wiki.kubuntu.org/HelpingKubuntu
[12:34] <hydrogen> not /HelpingK
[12:34] <Lynoure> hydrogen: nothing    sudo aptitude install ubuntu-desktop  would not fix, if you are serious
[12:34] <hydrogen> The channel topic is "Official Kubuntu support channel | Download Gutsy http://kubuntu.org/download.php | Upgrade instructions: http://kubuntu.org/announcements/7.10-release.php#upgrade | FAQ: http://wiki.kubuntu.org/CommonQuestions | Kubuntu CDs! https://shipit.kubuntu.org | Pastes: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org | Offtopic in #kubuntu-offtopic please | KDE 4.0beta3: http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde4-beta3.php | Wanna help?
[12:34] <hydrogen> https://wiki.kubuntu.org/HelpingK"
[12:34] <Jucato> hydrogen: working fine here. are you sure it's not just your window that cuts it off?
[12:34] <WaltzingAlong> so your client cuts it off
[12:34] <Jucato> hydrogen: what IRC client?
[12:34] <hydrogen> odd for konversation to do that..
[12:34] <Lynoure> hydrogen: oh, you meant your topic is missing ubuntu :)
[12:34] <Jucato> using konvi here, but still fine
[12:35] <WaltzingAlong> konversation here too
[12:35] <Jucato> hydrogen: can you check Window -> Channel Settings for #kubuntu?
[12:35] <hydrogen> try cycling the channel
[12:35] <WaltzingAlong> /topic
[12:35] <Jucato> still works perfectly
[12:35] <hydrogen> only goes to /HelpingK there
[12:36] <Jucato> can you check Window -> Channel Settings for #kubuntu?
[12:36] <hydrogen> what i just said
[12:36] <Jucato> really weird
[12:37] <xevious> weird
[12:37] <xevious> i see all of it
[12:37] <xevious> good morning everyone
[12:37] <Jucato> hydrogen: what version of Konvi?
[12:37] <hydrogen> 1.0.1
[12:37] <Jucato> hm.. same version, no problem here :/
[12:37] <hydrogen> and its not that its too long..
[12:37] <hydrogen> echo topic | wc -c is 441
[12:37] <hydrogen> TOPICLEN is 450
[12:37] <hydrogen> weird
[12:38] <Jucato> poor hydrogen_...
[12:38] <jussi01> hydrogen: does it not just have a drag down on the topic bit?
[12:39] <hydrogen_> works now?
[12:39] <hydrogen_> thats crazy!
[12:39] <Hydrogen> jussi01: no, the topic was truncated everywhere
[12:39] <Hydrogen> not just at the top
[12:39] <Hydrogen> anyways
[12:39] <jussi01> heh
[12:39] <Hydrogen> I need to breakfast
[12:39] <Hydrogen> and then meet
[12:39] <Hydrogen> back later!
[12:39] <jussi01> Im gonna kill ati..
[12:39] <jussi01> stupid freaking drivers
[12:39] <ubuntu> Hi there
[12:39] <xevious> good plan, jussi01
[12:40] <timri> jussi01: while you're at it, kill via for me as well >(
[12:40] <jussi01> lol
[12:40]  * xevious watches jussi01 go on a killing spree
[12:40] <willo> hi guys
[12:40] <jussi01> anyone seen this error when running xrandr: Xlib:  extension "RANDR" missing on display ":0.0".
[12:41] <Jucato> jussi01: libxrandr2 installed?
[12:42] <willo> Anyone having hassles with nVidia drivers on Gutsy?
[12:42] <WaltzingAlong> willo: none
[12:42] <xevious> willo: what problems are you having?
[12:42] <jussi01> Jucato: yes...
[12:42] <timri> willo: yeah, got the blank screen of death on a GeForce 6150
[12:42] <willo> Weird: Since I upgraded I experience intermittend lockups
[12:42] <Jucato> hm..
[12:43] <willo> Not even mouse cursor moves
[12:44] <timri> willo: propriatary drivers or nv?
[12:44] <willo> Propriatory
[12:44] <willo> I've moved to nv
[12:44] <willo> and so far so good
[12:44] <WaltzingAlong> black screen of death, haha
[12:44] <timri> willo: curious
[12:45] <WaltzingAlong> from repo or nvidia.com?
[12:45] <timri> WaltzingAlong: BLANK screen of death
[12:45] <willo> from repo
[12:45] <WaltzingAlong> ;) ok blank screen of death, hehe
[12:45] <timri> Teaches me to use an old IBM G50 monitor on a semi-modern machine
[12:45] <willo> Also, I tried to install via Envy
[12:45] <timri> ehh, NOT to use of course
[12:45] <willo> but now I get "Unable to install build-essentail"
[12:46] <WaltzingAlong> !envy | willo
[12:46] <ubotu> willo: envy is a script that may leave you envious of those who have not used it, use the resticted manager to install binary drivers or use the instructions on the wiki, this script may break your machine very badly!
[12:46] <timri> ubotu: LOL
[12:46] <ubotu> Please don't use "LOL" and "OMG" and so forth on a regular basis. This is IRC, not IM, and using those lines on their own is not required, and it is rather annoying to the rest of the people in the channel; thanks.
[12:46] <willo> lol
[12:46] <jussi01> !bot | timri
[12:47] <willo> Hey, I'm desperate
[12:47] <ubotu> timri: I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[12:47] <WaltzingAlong> willo: as you may know, use of the envy script is not recommended
[12:47] <willo> WaltzingAlong: Yea, I know...
[12:47] <willo> Any idea why build-essentials won't install?
[12:47] <WaltzingAlong> willo: sudo aptitude install build-essentials          we will find out
[12:48] <mouhamed> salu
[12:48] <timri> salut
[12:48] <eindbaas> Hi, after installing kubuntu 7.10 my laptop's fan is always on, I can turn if off doing echo -n 3 > /proc/acpi/fan/FAN/state, but this doesnt seem like the proper fix :)
[12:48] <eindbaas> any ideas?
[12:49] <WaltzingAlong> eindbaas: check the guidance-power-manager settings (may already be running, check the systray)
[12:49] <willo> Ack:
[12:50] <willo> The following packages are BROKEN:
[12:50] <WaltzingAlong> what envy broke packages?!?! no
[12:50] <willo>   libc6-dev
[12:50] <WaltzingAlong> !pastebin | willo
[12:50] <ubotu> willo: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[12:50] <eindbaas> WaltzingAlong: is that that little icon with the charging battery?
[12:50] <WaltzingAlong> eindbaas: yes
[12:50] <willo> No, wasn't envy
[12:50] <WaltzingAlong> willo: sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude -f install
[12:50] <willo> envy won't event get to install
[12:50] <winne> hi
[12:50] <eindbaas> WaltzingAlong: there's not much in there about the fan
[12:51] <blix> salu les gars
[12:51] <jussi01> eindbaas: is it a latitude d400?
[12:51] <eindbaas> no, nec versa p520
[12:51] <WaltzingAlong> eindbaas: perhaps nothing at all. i was thinking of the powersave/performance/dynamic settings
[12:52] <winne> Is there an easy way to enable visual effects in kubuntu?
[12:52] <willo> Downgrade the following packages:
[12:52] <willo> libc6 [2.6.1-1ubuntu10 (now) -> 2.6.1-1ubuntu9 (gutsy)]
[12:52] <willo> libc6-i386 [2.6.1-1ubuntu10 (now) -> 2.6.1-1ubuntu9 (gutsy)]
[12:52] <eindbaas> cpu freq scaling policy is set to dynamic
[12:52] <willo> Downgrade?
[12:52] <jussi01> eindbaas: you could try adding acpi=off to the grub start command
[12:52] <WaltzingAlong> willo: seems reasonable
[12:52] <winne> w/ gnome I just had to enable "Visual effects"
[12:52] <WaltzingAlong> Kubuntu Gutsy is not shipping with compiz-fusion installed (or enabled). It can still be installed though. Follow the instructions for gutsy at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion . for more, ask in #compiz-fusion & see http://wiki.compiz-fusion.org/ | winne
[12:52] <blix> je veux voir depuis mon réseau a partir de windows voir le partage de linux
[12:52] <willo> WaltzingAlong: why?
[12:52] <jussi01> !fr | blix
[12:52] <ubotu> blix: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[12:52] <winne> thx, WaltzingAlong
[12:52] <willo> WaltzingAlong: isn't it just going to upgradethem next run?
[12:53] <eindbaas> jussi01: hm, isnt it better to keep acpi enabled?
[12:53] <eindbaas> i can already turn of the fan doing echo -n 3 > /proc/acpi/fan/FAN/state, but i'm thinking it might overheat or something :D
[12:53] <blix> ok
[12:53] <WaltzingAlong> willo: if it could do so without error, perhaps but if there are unmet dependencies, no
[12:53] <willo> WaltzingAlong: Ok, lemme try that
[12:54] <WaltzingAlong> willo: then afterward give it another sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude safe-upgrade
[12:54] <jussi01> eindbaas: the latitude d400 has that issue, and thats the work around. see bug 127772
[12:54] <winne> will try it
[12:54] <winne> bye
[12:56] <willo> WaltzingAlong: Thanks-do you think that perhaps that upgrade went funny?
[12:56] <eindbaas> jussi01: i'm trying it, thanks
[12:56] <jussi01> eindbaas: cool.
[12:57] <WaltzingAlong> willo: could have been a mix of repos or packages but adept or apt-get and the like should not have forced installing/upgrading to a broken state
[12:57] <WaltzingAlong> willo: so something forced it
[12:57] <WaltzingAlong> willo: and now that envy can work, skip it ;)
[12:57] <willo> WaltzingAlong: Ok, perhaps thats why the nVidia drivers freaked?
[12:58] <WaltzingAlong> willo: could be
[12:58] <WaltzingAlong> !nvidia | willo, install from the repo or with this guide for the latest nvidia
[12:58] <ubotu> willo, install from the repo or with this guide for the latest nvidia: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[13:01] <willo> WaltzingAlong: Seems happy now: I'll follow the instructions you sent-Thanx
[13:01] <willo> Bye
[13:01] <WaltzingAlong> cheers
[13:02] <eindbaas> jussi01: it does disable the fan, but won't i lose all the other acpi functionality this way?
[13:03] <jussi01> eindbaas: not sure. sorry.
[13:03] <eindbaas> hm i think so, because there's no icon saying my battery is charging
[13:08] <tinel> Hi, i'm new in kubuntu 7.10 and have a problem while loading an external usb hard drive. Message shown is: hal-storage-removable-mount-all-options refused uid 1000 . Can anyone help me?
[13:09] <WaltzingAlong> tinel: certainly. http://jaiku.com/channel/linux/presence/14843835 or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=530968           also you can configure these devices in kmenu/system settings/advanced/disks and filesystems
[13:10] <sparrw> when i try compiz --replace it complains that it cant find metacity.  help?
[13:11] <WaltzingAlong> Kubuntu Gutsy is not shipping with compiz-fusion installed (or enabled). It can still be installed though. Follow the instructions for gutsy at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion . for more, ask in #compiz-fusion & see http://wiki.compiz-fusion.org/ | sparrw  check the compiz channel and wiki
[13:11] <tinel> thanks i'll try now..
[13:12] <sparrw> WaltzingAlong: thanks for the form letter.  itchy ctrl+v fingers?
[13:12] <WaltzingAlong> yes i type the same answer only so many times before creating an alias for it
[13:13] <sparrw> since im already trying to run compiz, its a safe bet ive already followed the instructions
[13:16] <atlfalcons866> is kde4 stable enough to use
[13:16] <Jucato> no]
[13:18] <atlfalcons866> !hardy
[13:18] <ubotu> Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS) | Due April 2008 | For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron | Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1
[13:20] <angasule> after I installed gutsy (from the live CD) and I booted into it, I did an update and after the update I got prompted to update version, isn't that messed up? I chose not to, at that time
[13:21] <Jucato> known bug
[13:22] <angasule> how did that get through QA? I have installed gutsy 3 times, and two times that happend (the third one the system didn't boot, kernel panic)
[13:22] <atlfalcons866> how do i turn off the bouncing icon
[13:22] <Jucato> the fewer people who help test upgrades and report bugs, the less chances of catching and fixing bugs
[13:23] <Jucato> atlfalcons866: press Alt+F2, type in "kcontrol", go to Appearance & Themes -> Launch Feedback
[13:23] <atlfalcons866> jucato: thanks
[13:24] <tinel> now everything is working on my ext usb hd!! thanks!!!
[13:24] <tinel> bye
[13:25] <angasule> Jucato: I think in this hemisphere it's easy to help for the first release in each year, our LUG has about 100 people in the email list, most on kubuntu, we might be of use eventually
[13:25] <Jucato> angasule: that would be great!
[13:31] <WaltzingAlong> sparr_w so perhaps you have followed them already. your answer is likely a faq in the compiz fusion channel or or on the wiki but is not a kubuntu specific issue
[13:32] <WaltzingAlong> tinel: great, glad it is working
[13:35] <pbn> Hello, I have some kind of a problem
[13:35] <lander> hello evryone
[13:35] <lander> tell it
[13:35] <pbn> I installed kdmtheme with aptitude
[13:35] <WaltzingAlong> atlfalcons866: use to play with sure but not for production/need it working systems
[13:35] <pbn> now I do have the ability to "disable KDM themes" in kcontrol
[13:35] <pbn> but even if I disable the KDM themes and reboot, it's still using a KDM theme !
[13:35] <lander> hye Waltzing
[13:36] <lander> Waltzingalong: hey
[13:36] <WaltzingAlong> lander: greetings
[13:36] <fevel> hey guys...is there a one stop command for removing kubuntu-desktop from my ubuntu system?
[13:36] <fevel> I have the cd and would like two clean systems
[13:36] <WaltzingAlong> fevel: sure sudo aptitude purge kubuntu-desktop
[13:37] <WaltzingAlong> fevel: of course that is most helpful if you installed through aptitude. check http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/puregnome
[13:37] <fevel> I used sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[13:37] <lg188> Waltzingalong: i cant get firefox :(
[13:38] <fevel> and I used sudo apt-get remove kubuntu-desktop
[13:38] <fevel> but it left all the kde packages
[13:38] <WaltzingAlong> fevel: ok so then you removed that package. but of course it left those