[04:12] <amenado> tha_toadman-> well you can start digging to the rc.d or init.d  for the network startup and monitor those to see if its hanging anywhere
[04:12] <cwillu> eaglestar83, if sudo doesn't work right now, reboot into the recovery kernel
[04:12] <root_____> fazed: no
[04:12] <cwillu> eaglestar83, it'll dump you at a root prompt where you can fix it
[04:12] <sebsebseb> imac:  most Linux distros are rather similar
[04:12] <Bodsda> bazhang: your my last hope dude, what shall i do?
[04:12] <amenado> tha_toadman-> what number?  pid?
[04:13] <tha_toadman> amenado: like [ 26.643986 ]
[04:13] <eaglestar83> so i go to pico /etc/hosts
[04:13] <sebsebseb> imac:  the install DVD for Suse contains 4GB's of stuff since it will  put on a lot of packages/programs I suppouse
[04:13] <cwillu> imac, lots of stuff, and yet not a lot of stuff; ask suse, we don't know anything about their dvd here; preferences
[04:13] <tha_toadman> amenado: seems like a timer to me...?
[04:13] <Starnestommy> eaglestar83: yes
[04:13] <bazhang> http://sudan.ubuntuforums.com/showthread.php?t=700082 Bodsda check this
[04:13] <imac> sebsebseb: so why is ubuntu more popular?
[04:13] <amenado> tha_toadman-> i dont know
[04:13] <eaglestar83> so i go to pico etc/hosts
[04:13] <Starnestommy> imac: it mas a better community and is more user-friendly
[04:13] <root_____> sebsebseb: driver support
[04:13] <Starnestommy> *has
[04:13] <sebsebseb> imac: I guess, because Ubuntu is based on Debian one of the first Linux distros that ever existed
[04:13] <eaglestar83> ok
[04:13] <neon> does lm-sensors work with intel pm965 notebook chipset
[04:13] <eaglestar83> sorry
[04:14] <imac> Starnestommy: suse or ubuntu?
[04:14] <tha_toadman> amenado: my ACPI is at that last number then my networking starts at [ 204.600664]
[04:14] <Starnestommy> imac: ubuntu
[04:14] <imac> Ah
[04:14] <eaglestar83> ok so how do i setup networking with vmwareplayer so i can share files between ubuntu and suse vm
[04:14] <Mattevt> In firefox, wherever there is a flash applet (or whatever), i see these large "play" symbols (sideways triangle inside a circle). I have to click them to see the applet/video. Is their a way to get around this?
[04:14] <artint> ubuntu sux
[04:14] <tha_toadman> amenado: sorry but something has changed since 7 that's stalling my startup and it's bugging the hell out of me
[04:14] <cwillu> Mattevt, you have flashblock installed
[04:14] <bazhang> artint offtopic here thanks
[04:14] <zeno> Mattevt: remove the flashblock plugin
[04:14] <cwillu> Mattevt, this is actually a good thing :p
[04:14] <root_____> Mattevt: do you have NoScript installed as a plugin, sometimes that does it?
[04:14] <tha_toadman> amenado: how do i check rc.d or init.d ?
[04:14] <zeno> Mattevt: although thats great, remember all those annoying flash adds?
[04:15] <sebsebseb> Imac:  plus  OpenSuse  is  the community  distro of  Novell's Suse Enterprise Linux, and  well  Novell is  not liked that much anymore by a lot of people in the Linux community, because of a deal they made with Microsoft
[04:15] <Shadow420> artint /msg ubottu etiquette
[04:15] <amenado> tha_toadman-> off hand I can not tell you, i have not seen it yet nor a mention of that so far in forums
[04:15] <Bodsda> bazhang: cheers dude, il try that thanks
[04:15] <artint> stupid wobbly windows
[04:15] <Mattevt> zeno: indeed...I guess it's a good thing. Thanks for the fast responses guys!
[04:15] <sebsebseb> Imac:  Ubuntu is also known for very good driver/hardware suppourt
[04:15] <amenado> tha_toadman-> /etc/init.d
[04:15] <imac> microsoft stinks, but that's not a reason not to use suse if they won't benifit from it
[04:15] <tha_toadman> amenado: then i may post this one in the forums *think i'm still registered there* and will post this to see what's up
[04:15] <zeno> artint: you can turn those off, or try another desktop enviornment like kde
[04:16] <bazhang> !ot | artint
[04:16] <EcoBlue-GAYSEX> Ubuntu 8.04 fails on my laptop
[04:16] <EcoBlue-GAYSEX> Help
[04:16] <imac> Someone on the suse irc said suse had better driver support
[04:16] <IdleOne> artint: take your rant to #ubuntu-offtopic please
[04:16] <Shadow420> artint I have never had no mproblems with ubuntu just windows and my computer it self
[04:16] <eaglestar83> how do i make it so firestarter starts when i login?
[04:16] <amenado> tha_toadman-> okay, good luck
[04:16] <sebsebseb> Imac: so have you got Ubuntu installed now?
[04:16] <bazhang> EcoBlue-GAYSEX: please change your nick
[04:16] <tha_toadman> amenado: thanks for your help!!! ;)
[04:16] <imac> VMware, yes
[04:16] <sebsebseb> hummmmmm VMware
[04:16] <root_____> EcoBlue: what is the specific error message you get, probably you should try a 64-bit of ubuntu if it doesn't even boot
[04:16] <sebsebseb> so your on an XP host?
[04:16] <imac> imac
[04:16] <madmoomix> Anyone know why installing Ubuntu is changing how live-cds work? This should not be happening.
[04:16] <imac> XP computer is weak lol
[04:16] <amenado> tha_toadman-> i was not much help to you really, hopefully next time
[04:16] <artint> i was jokin
[04:17] <sebsebseb> imac:  oh yeah imac so Mac OS X host?
[04:17] <eaglestar83> ok i guess its one question a day here
[04:17] <eaglestar83> thanks
[04:17] <imac> yeah
[04:17] <Shadow420> I am a XP/Ubuntu user
[04:17] <cwillu> madmaxmad, ubuntu didn't even have a live-cd originally, it's not like it's something set in stone
[04:17] <tha_toadman> amenado: well you were the first to offer -- people like you make ubuntu what it is today -- cheers!
[04:17] <imac> I was thinking about duel booting the xp with linux, so i'm trying ubuntu first
[04:17] <sebsebseb> imac:  well you can download already made  Linux distros  from the VMware site,  for open souse and Ubuntu and so on.  even other oprating systems.  and then you can try them out,  and find out which one you like the most
[04:17] <hydrogen> of course the performance in vmware is less than impressive
[04:17] <imac> i guess
[04:17] <hydrogen> and virtualbox is much cooler :)
[04:17] <imac> true
[04:17] <amenado> tha_toadman-> thank you for the kind words...
[04:17] <rich_freecomm> anyone have 8.04 and play Gweled?
[04:17] <imac> i can't use compiz so that sucks
[04:18] <Fezzler> How do I change my login screen resolution?
[04:18] <Shadow420> imac then u are in luck ubuntu is very easy to use
[04:18] <sebsebseb> hydrogen:  yeah Virtualbox is good,  except  I have had issues with it in Ubuntu.
[04:18] <patricknn> hey, i have a dell 4600 and i have a nvidia video card, with s-video out. whenever i try to use screens and graphics to change the screens, either it becomes a terrible resolution, or the screen size is too large on my lcd monitor, any ideas?
[04:18] <root_____> rich_freecomm: I couldn't get Gweled to work on 8.04
[04:18] <imac> but I tried ubuntu on windows with wubi and it didn't get driver support for my vid card and no internet either
[04:18] <sebsebseb> hydrogen:  plus  when I got it for WIndows recentlly it seemed I would have to build the open source one myself.  so  I went for the cloused one
[04:19] <rich_freecomm> root_____: I got it working...but it's in French
[04:19] <tha_toadman> amenado: i'm off to bed -- you'll have to look for my post in the forum - later!
[04:19] <rich_freecomm> root_____:  which is ok....since I was so used to playing it..I knew what to hit
[04:20] <root_____> rich_freecomm: I found a bug in that program, but there was no place on their website to submit it i think, or if there was i submitted it
[04:20] <ciprian> connect
[04:20] <Mattevt> OK, now I have a silly question: The text in firefox is really small...then when I enlarge the font, the orientation skews, words overlap etc. am I missing something obvious
[04:20] <Bodsda> bazhang: that link said to add root (hd0,0) to the boot line,,.,. but i dont get the grub list so il edit in live cd but dont think it will work
[04:20] <imac> Mattevt change your dpi in resolution settings
[04:20] <bazhang> Bodsda: reinstalling grub might help as well
[04:20] <Bodsda> bazhang: how do i do that?
[04:20] <Mattevt> oh, rad. Thanks imac
[04:21] <rich_freecomm> root_____: I just upgraded from 7.10 and it still worked, but it had the French problem even though I do not have foreign language support
[04:21] <bazhang> http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Hardy Bodsda
[04:21] <Bodsda> ty bazhang ur a url lifesaver
[04:22] <chris_420> quick audio question....  my mic isn't working... im running hardy...   here's my audio card info as listed by lspci:Multimedia audio controller: Creative Labs SB Audigy LS
[04:22] <bobbo85> If I edit boot.lst and change the title of the OS, will it still boot?
[04:22] <Fezzler> I've tried editing xorg.conf but it don't work
[04:22] <Starnestommy> bobbo85: if you just change the title, yes
[04:22] <rich_freecomm> root_____: does Gweled give you an error message or just not work?
[04:23] <bobbo85> btw i meant /boot/grub/menu.lst in my last question, thanks Starnestommy
[04:23] <guest> anyone know if it's relatively safe installing(?) a different gtk engine?
[04:23] <mjbrooks> chris_420, do you also have an integrated sound card on your system?
[04:23] <sam_> anybody using an atheros chipset wireless card with madwifi drivers?
[04:23] <onats> how di i install a vmware player on my ubuntu 7.10?
[04:24] <surplusxmas> My AMD64 8.04 alternate installation fails at "Select and install software". The terminal (Alt + F4) shows "WARNING**: Configuring 'pkgsel' failed with error code 1", and I am unable to continue the install.
[04:24] <chris_420> mjbrooks: yes but its shut off through bios
[04:24] <LadyNikon> onats: you can get it from the synaptic
[04:24] <chris_420> mjbrooks... this installation has never seen it ever turned on
[04:24] <mjbrooks> chris_420, darn.. that was what I was going to suggest  :/
[04:24] <bobbo85> Starnestommy, I just want to get rid of "(development branch)" from the title, any idea why mine has that and people who upgraded after the LTS release it just says ubuntu hardy?
[04:24] <kye> Does anyone know how to get K&R 2nd edition .c files to compile correctly w/ gcc?
[04:25] <onats> ladynikon, my sources does not have the vmware player version. i get an error when installing it from synaptic
[04:25] <neon> what is a good program to use to sync my ipaq pda? thx
[04:25] <chris_420> mjbrooks... haha... been there done that... im trying to test the mic for my ma's gaming headset she's sturgglin on her computer with it lol
[04:25] <sam_> chris you smoke too much reefer
[04:25] <chris_420> < now im feeling all retarded haha
[04:25] <chris_420> sam i ain't smoked in 3 months bro haha
[04:25] <sam_> haha
[04:25] <Starnestommy> bobbo85: it's probably a bug
[04:25] <sam_> ahhh ok
[04:26] <bobbo85> thanks Starnestommy !
[04:26] <chris_420> and i think thats the problem haha
[04:26] <surplusxmas> My AMD64 8.04 alternate installation fails at "Select and install software". The terminal (Alt + F4) shows "WARNING**: Configuring 'pkgsel' failed with error code 1", and I am unable to continue the install.
[04:26] <Starnestommy> bobbo85: or you had the beta before upgrading to 8.04
[04:26] <leftyfb> has anyone done luks encrypted partitions post-install?
[04:26] <mjbrooks> chris_420, I had a friend with a similar problem, here's what fixed it
[04:26] <bobbo85> Starnestommy, I did, I was just hoping that after upgrading to 8.04 LTS that the Beta stuff would go away
[04:27] <HappyHater> is there a setting somewhere I can change in kde to use a dblclick to run a file/folder/whatever and not a single click?
[04:28] <Mattevt> In "Monitor Resolution Settings", the "Clones Screens" box is checked. I un-check it, then click "Apply", but somehow it always re-checks it self.
[04:28] <onats> how di i install a vmware player on my ubuntu 7.10?
[04:28] <IndyGunFreak> HappyHater: i'm sure there is, look at mouse preferences
[04:28] <mjbrooks> chris_420, uncomment blacklist snd-atiixp-modem in /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist-modem
[04:28] <leftyfb> I can't seem to get a prompt for passphrase at boot which will then create the devicemapper virtual device in /dev/mapper to then be mounted as my /home. I have /etc/crypttab setup properly by uuid which I have veryified multiple times exists ... I then have my fstab mounting the /dev/mapper/blah device which like I said, doesn't get created until it's opened using the passphrase.....
[04:28] <Bodsda> bazhang: moment of truth (reboot) if this dont work i dunno what il do
[04:28] <AbstortedMinds> where can i go to learn to build the best linux desktop i can find, (all open source hardware drivers, greatest compatability etc)
[04:28] <leftyfb> doing all this manually works fine. It just won't prompt for passphrase at boot
[04:29] <chris_420> mjbrooks : ok let me give that a try... if it don't work im a put it back lol
[04:29] <Bodsda> AbstortedMinds: www.google.com
[04:29] <bazhang> good luck Bodsda :)
[04:29] <chris_420> BRB
[04:29] <Bodsda> bazhang: ffs error 22 again!!!!!!!!!!
[04:29] <AbstortedMinds> when I hold down a button on the keyboard my mouse wont move, whats wrong?
[04:29] <bazhang> !hcl | AbstortedMinds check here first
[04:30] <co_savirus> christian_cow_t3xlov3r
[04:30] <zionpsyfer> AbstortedMinds: The specs on the machines at http://system76.com/index.php?cPath=27 would help.  Checking the hardware compatibility pages will be good info as well.
[04:30] <AbstortedMinds> thanks bazhang
[04:30] <leftyfb> anyone? encrypted filesystems created post-installed?
[04:30] <Bodsda> !anyone
[04:30] <bazhang> leftyfb: you checked truecrypt?
[04:31] <AbstortedMinds> i wouldnt trust truecrypt, try geli
[04:31] <AbstortedMinds> geli is the best
[04:31] <Bodsda> !best
[04:31] <IndyGunFreak> !best
[04:31] <leftyfb> bazhang: truecrypt doesn't create full linux filesystems, only containers which need to be mounted manually. You cannot mount truecrypt containers using grub
[04:31] <AbstortedMinds> i dont know if thats on ubuntu, but on freebsd geli is the ultimate option
[04:31] <rich_freecomm> ubottu: if it weren't for questions getting overlooked or even being read, that would be a great idea
[04:31] <dubby> hey anyone with fwbuilder working, I have fwbuilder and a firewall i wish to install and any case when i try to compile it it gives me an xml file which i cannot run in terminal, and if i click install it tells me that myfirewall.fw does not exist
[04:32] <Bodsda> rich_freecomm: ubottu is a bot
[04:32] <mjbrooks> bazhang, truecrypt also has throughput issues
[04:32] <chris_420> ahhh lol forgot to sudo gedit lol...
[04:32] <nickellery> !ubotu
[04:32] <rich_freecomm> ah
[04:32] <leftyfb> I'm using the luks encryption built into ubuntu. There should be no need to use something from freebsd or some other 3rd party tool
[04:32] <IdleOne> rich_freecomm: questions are rarely overlooked but if nobody has an answer for the question should we all say " I don't know! " ?
[04:32] <AbstortedMinds> when I hold down a button on the keyboard my mouse wont move, but when i release the button the mouse moves again.  ubuntu with an imac
[04:32] <danbhfive> im having a bunch of hardware problems in hardy.  Could this be because of a bad upgrade?
[04:32] <Utalcn2me> i screwed up my usplash, anyone know how i can fix it?
[04:33] <leftyfb> I have it working fine being mounted manually. I just need to get it to do it at boot. I thought update-initiramfs -u would do it, but i guess not.
[04:33] <rich_freecomm> IdleOne: nope...just 1 would do :)
[04:33] <IndyGunFreak> danbhfive: anything is possible.. i think all upgrades suck.
[04:33] <Mattevt> In "Monitor Resolution Settings", the "Clones Screens" box is checked. I un-check it, then click "Apply", but somehow it always re-checks it self. How can I stop this.
[04:33] <IndyGunFreak> rich_freecomm: then you'd say, "anyone else"
[04:33] <danbhfive> IndyGunFreak: that they do
[04:33] <rich_freecomm> IndyGunFrak: I might...:)
[04:33] <chris_420> okay lets try now haha
[04:33] <rich_freecomm> IndyGunFreak: I might...:)
[04:34] <IdleOne> rich_freecomm: :) I believe that even one person telling someone they don't know would upset the person asking...why bother answering to something you don't have answer for
[04:34] <IndyGunFreak> rich_freecomm: uh huh. *might*?
[04:34] <Chapai> when i ssh into a box, some how no i have lost the use of aliases but it works on the ssh server.
[04:34] <rich_freecomm> IdleOne: hmm...versus not even knowing if the message got out...yeah..that's a toughy
[04:34] <wastrel> if all 1300 people said "i don't know" this channel would be too busy
[04:34] <IndyGunFreak> danbhfive: i hate upgrading, maybe you should consider backing up/clean install.
[04:35] <IdleOne> rich_freecomm: the message is out trust me. but not all answer are always available when you want it.
[04:35] <wastrel> Chapai: where are the aliases stored?
[04:35] <Chapai> .bashrc
[04:35] <danbhfive> IndyGunFreak: I am considering that.  The only blockage is mysql.  I don't know much about backing that up
[04:35] <rich_freecomm> IdleOne: well, they should be, gosh darned it :)
[04:35] <IdleOne> rich_freecomm: indeed
[04:35] <Bodsda> !ot | rich
[04:35] <IndyGunFreak> danbhfive: hm,, sorry, can't help w/ that
[04:36] <IdleOne> !ot > IdleOne
[04:36] <surplusxmas> My AMD64 8.04 alternate installation fails at "Select and install software". The terminal (Alt + F4) shows "WARNING**: Configuring 'pkgsel' failed with error code 1", and I am unable to continue the install.   :O
[04:37] <IndyGunFreak> from codecs, to flash, etc etc, its not ready yet in my opinion
[04:38] <Bodsda> !language | IndyGunFreak
[04:38] <Bodsda> surplusxmas: alternate cd didntwork but live cd did
[04:38] <IndyGunFreak> Bodsda: i think i've been here about 2yrs longer than you, if i need your help w/ my conduct, i'll ask
[04:38] <Chapai> cheers, its been annoying me since wastrel
[04:38] <chris_420> this is hella gay
[04:38] <mjbrooks> chris_420, you could try uncommenting the other ones in there
[04:38] <wastrel> blbrown:  does the site your leaving have flash?  does the site you're going to have flash banner ads?  mine's crashy from flash :]   maybe yours isn't but i bet it's at least part of the prob
[04:38] <andar_> how can i see my computer's hardware components?
[04:38] <Danish989> !language | chris_420
[04:38] <surplusxmas> Careful, Bodsda, he's a gun freak.
[04:38] <chris_420> mjbrooks: im a try one by one...
[04:38] <danbhfive> Danish989: well, everything worked fine in gutsy.  Now, I am having sound, keyboard and mouse issues in hardy.
[04:38] <hydrogen> "ass" offensive? .. thats a new one
[04:38] <mjbrooks> chris_420, not sure if you have one of those, but they cause the same problems
[04:39] <chris_420> ubottu sorry dude
[04:39] <surplusxmas> IndyGunFreak: Why is it a hassle?  What about it is a hassle?
[04:39] <Bodsda> IndyGunFreak: i wasnt offering help i was reminding you of the conduct -- i dont care how long uve been here u still have  to abide
[04:39] <IndyGunFreak> hydrogen: i refer to people like that as "wanna-be ops"
[04:39] <mjbrooks> chris_420, you can do them all at onece... no harm
[04:39] <blbrown> wastrel, I am righting a serious rant on the ubuntu forums;  It just gets worse
[04:39] <IndyGunFreak> Bodsda: and i was reminding you i don't care what you think
[04:39] <harris> hey HELP having problem screen resolution my monitor is CRT 15"... what resolution is best?
[04:39] <mjbrooks> chris_420, you'll only have one of them so it won't harm it
[04:39] <rich1> i have a broadcom 4318 card and just upgraded to hardy.  i can't remember everything i did to get the card working.  how can i tell if i'm using ndiswrapper or fwcutter method?
[04:39] <harris> hey HELP having problem screen resolution my monitor is CRT 15"... what resolution is best?
[04:39] <chris_420> mjbrooks...  im a do it one at a time :for absolute knowledge of the problem...  and if nothing h elps then ill go all haha
[04:40] <surplusxmas> IndyGunFreak: What's the hassle with 64?
[04:40] <danbhfive> harris: on a crt, I think its a matter of opinion, and whatever it supports
[04:40] <harris> hey HELP having problem of screen resolution my monitor is CRT 15"... what resolution is best?
[04:40] <tbielawa> harris: when I had a 15" I could get buy with 1024x768
[04:40] <IndyGunFreak> surplusxmas: i just listed it above, multimedia codecs, flash, are the first that come to mind.
[04:40] <Bodsda> IndyGunFreak: my thoughts were of the conduct you fancy discussing this issue more then join me in #someonesmoody
[04:40] <rich_freecomm> rich1: I went to Dell for my driver (my dell wireless card uses a Broadcom driver)
[04:40] <Starnestommy> harris: probably 1024x768
[04:40] <IndyGunFreak> harris: take a paxil, repeating your question 10x in 5sec isnt gonna get a faster response.
[04:40] <surplusxmas> IndyGunFreak: Ahhh, thanks for bringing that up!  Ack, I would've been hosed!  I'm going to go with 32bit.
[04:40] <AbstortedMinds> Could this be an Xorg problem?  when I hold down a button on the keyboard my mouse wont move
[04:41] <mjbrooks> rich1, I hear that for that one you have to plug into an ethernet jack so your on the internet and then enable the hardware driver
[04:41] <Utalcn2me> i screwed up my usplash, anyone know how i can fix it?
[04:41] <IndyGunFreak> surplusxmas: shoulda researched it a bit better, those issues are well known
[04:41] <wastrel> AbstortedMinds: which button?
[04:41] <hydrogen> surplusxmas: the biggest thing about 64bit is in almost all cases you don't gain anything from using 64bit
[04:41] <chris_420> brb time to retry lol
[04:41] <Mattevt> In "Monitor Resolution Settings", the "Clones Screens" box is checked. I un-check it, then click "Apply", but somehow it always re-checks it self.
[04:41] <surplusxmas> IndyGunFreak: Research schmesearch. :)
[04:41] <IndyGunFreak> Bodsda: not moody at all, if you don't like me, "/ignore indygunfreak" will take care of you
[04:41] <IndyGunFreak> surplusxmas: :)
[04:41] <AbstortedMinds> any button
[04:41] <surplusxmas> IndyGunFreak: Thanks for your help. :)
[04:41] <zionpsyfer> harris: 1024x768 would be a good starter.  Use the nvidia control panel to set it.
[04:41] <AbstortedMinds> wastrel any button, if i hold down W like in a game the mouse will not move
[04:41] <Bodsda> IndyGunFreak: never said i dont like you just said !language
[04:42] <AbstortedMinds> westrel when i released the button the mouse moves again
[04:42] <IndyGunFreak> Bodsda: ok, let me rephrase, if you don't like my language, or think i'm moody, i told you how to ignore me.
[04:42] <tbielawa> AbstortedMinds: that might be your hardware. The macs in my office have the same problem
[04:42] <IndyGunFreak> otherwise, leave me be.
[04:42] <bazhang> Bodsda: take it easy please
[04:42] <AbstortedMinds> tbielawa its an imac, did you not find a fix for this?
[04:42] <chris_420> if its workin i should be able to hear my self through the speakers right? or i could put the mic by the speakers and wait for feedback haha
[04:42] <AbstortedMinds> tbielawa is it a known issue, have you found anything about this problem?
[04:43] <arvind_khadri> enabling restricted drivers doesnt give me proper screen resolution
[04:43] <tbielawa> AbstortedMinds: yes. we found out that you have to install osX and apply all the updates and apply a bio (whatever macs call it) udpate
[04:43] <Bodsda> bazhang: im not the one gettin touchy about the rules
[04:43] <iamchris> Im trying to load mp3's onto my micro sd-card using a converter and a 9in1 on the front of my PC. WHen I put a file onto the card, it shows its been copied, but then when I move up the file system and back in, it dissapears. Any suggestions?
[04:43] <arvind_khadri> bazhang, enabling restricted drivers doesnt give me proper screen resolution
[04:43] <qwiksand> i have alot of work to do and i'm used to using windows graphics program, not using ubuntu 8.04
[04:43] <bazhang> Bodsda: please let it go
[04:43] <Bodsda> bazhang: ok boss
[04:43] <IndyGunFreak> Bodsda: i'm not being touchy, i just don't need you to explain them to me, if you have a problem w/ me, point it out to an op
[04:43] <AbstortedMinds> Tbielawa, i have it up to date as far as the Software updates are concerned
[04:43] <Mattevt> oh my god he said "ass". There are more important things like: In "Monitor Resolution Settings", the "Clones Screens" box is checked. I un-check it, then click "Apply", but somehow it always re-checks it self." :)
[04:43] <IndyGunFreak> lol
[04:44] <zionpsyfer> lol, nice one.
[04:44] <Bodsda> IndyGunFreak: if you dont need them explaining then why violate -- any further talk on the subject in a diff channel plz
[04:44] <AaronMT> !attitude
[04:44] <bazhang> Mattevt: ;]
[04:44] <arvind_khadri> bazhang, ??? plz help :((
[04:44] <qwiksand> i dont know what to do, intalled wine but when i installed Xara Xtreme (graphics software) it deem seem to work well
[04:44] <CaptainMorgan> wow! who would've thought that Ubuntu now has great usb-camera support!?
[04:44] <tbielawa> AbstortedMinds: I think what we found was that you have to apply the OSX updates before it will allow you to update the firmware bios thing
[04:44] <CaptainMorgan> this is awesome
[04:44] <tbielawa> AbstortedMinds: though, we never went through with this, this is all just what I"ve heard.
[04:45] <Chapai> what camera are you using, mine did not work CaptainMorgan
[04:45] <AbstortedMinds> Tbielawa, ahh, well ok, any idea what keywords would be able to find this issue in ubuntu forums, im failing at that
[04:45] <Unknown10369> wats ubuntu can som1 help pm me if u can
[04:45] <arbir> is back
[04:45] <kazol> My Gutsy->Heron upgrade, as expected, was NOT successful and I am left with an empty brown screen when starting the system. I removed the "splash" and "quiet" options from /boot/grub/menu.lst to increase verbosity, and could not find any errors.
[04:45] <Starnestommy> !ubuntu | Unknown10369
[04:45] <arbir> Unknown10369: state ur question clearly
[04:45] <bazhang> !ubuntu | Unknown10369
[04:45] <CaptainMorgan> ChakRa, Kodak C703 ?
[04:46] <tbielawa> AbstortedMinds: not sure what you mean there :-\
[04:46] <CaptainMorgan> Chapai, , Kodak C703 ?
[04:46] <Unknown10369> wtf
[04:46] <K_Dallas> Hi guys! Q: Does the latest version of stable ubuntu (8.04 I guess) have a bette support for Toshiba laptops (epecially regarding its hibernate/sleep mode). Thanks (the previous version didn't support it). it is a satellite model
[04:46] <CaptainMorgan> Chapai, you?
[04:46] <qwiksand> can u use wine to install any widows program
[04:46] <Unknown10369> hopw can i hack with linux
[04:46] <AbstortedMinds> tbielawa, meaning what would this issue be called?
[04:46] <arbir> how can i increase the general viewport size of audacious ? i tried menu option VIew-> Scale and still nothing is happening.
[04:46]  * kazol should try Gentoo instead of Ubuntu.
[04:46] <bazhang> Unknown10369: wrong channel for that
[04:46] <IndyGunFreak> Unknown10369: that sort of discussion is not allowed here
[04:46] <kazol> Unknown10369: Try asking in ##linux
[04:46] <Bodsda> qwiksand: some windows programs yes
[04:47] <chris_420> i have feed back my friends haha
[04:47] <Chapai> mine was cheap for windows something ... anote CaptainMorgan
[04:47] <kazol> Unknown10369: People there should definitely know.
[04:47] <Mattevt> In "Monitor Resolution Settings", the "Clones Screens" box is checked. I un-check it, then click "Apply", but somehow it always re-checks it self. How can I stop this.  (If I don't get an answer, I won't be bitter, I've received more than my fair share of help here in the past few days. Thanks all!)
[04:47] <tbielawa> AbstortedMinds: That's tough, I'd search for usb subsystem stuff, maybe "open firmware" 'imac keyboard" any luck with those terms yet?
[04:47] <co^Jadul^> haiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii
[04:47] <mjbrooks> qwiksand, for more info on wine see:  http://www.winehq.org/
[04:47] <chris_420> never thought id be so happy to hear nails on a chalk board hehe
[04:47] <IndyGunFreak> Unknown10369: my guess is, if you have to ask, you couldn't even exploit internet explorer, so you probably have a long way to go.
[04:47] <chris_420> yo mjbrooks
[04:47] <mjbrooks> chris_420, yessir
[04:47] <chris_420> i black list the intel audion...
[04:48] <arbir> anybody uses Audacious here ?
[04:48] <chris_420> audio even....
[04:48] <IdleOne> IndyGunFreak: not that we know anything about exploiting IE :)
[04:48] <IndyGunFreak> IdleOne: lol
[04:48] <chris_420> and left everything else it was option no.2
[04:48] <JoCo> hey guys just got my ubuntu up and finally in the GUI but my graphics driver isnt installed and im having trouble
[04:48] <mjbrooks> chris_420, fixed then?
[04:48] <chris_420> mjbrooks thank you much for your help... you rock...
[04:48]  * mjbrooks bows
[04:48] <Unknown10369> indy i got internt explorer
[04:48] <silvesterdivas> hi
[04:48]  * Scrounch is now away: off
[04:48] <chris_420> mjbrooks... most def i got feedback baby... haha  thats good enough for me at the moment lol
[04:49] <AbstortedMinds> tbielawa, trying now
[04:49] <bazhang> !away > Scrounch
[04:49] <IdleOne> Unknown10369: you wont find the answers you are looking for here so might as well give it up
[04:49] <mjbrooks> chris_420, congrats and enjoy
[04:49] <sebsebseb> !ubuntu
[04:49] <neon> what is a good program to use to sync my ipaq pda? thx
[04:49] <kindofabuzz> Unknown10369: hack with linux = learn linux first
[04:49] <AaronMT> !attitude > Unknown10369
[04:49] <tbielawa> !help
[04:49] <JoCo> i installed EnvyNG but when I click install Nvidia driver it outputs this as an error: /usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/apt/__init__.py:18: FutureWarning: apt API not stable yet
[04:49] <JoCo>   warnings.warn("apt API not stable yet", FutureWarning)
[04:49] <chris_420> mjbrooks most def.... now i get to go beat up a microshaft winbbloze xp  machine hehe
[04:50] <arbir> ubottu: how can i increase the general viewport size of audacious ? i tried menu option VIew-> Scale and still nothing is happening.
[04:50] <IndyGunFreak> JoCo: why not just use restricted driver?
[04:50] <kazol> My Gutsy->Heron upgrade, as expected, was NOT successful and I am left with an empty brown screen when starting the system. I removed the "splash" and "quiet" options from /boot/grub/menu.lst to increase verbosity, and could not find any errors.
[04:50] <IndyGunFreak> !ubotu | arbir
[04:50] <bazhang> neon: there are a few ubuntuforums posts about that iirc let me check if I can find one
[04:50] <sergiuu> hello
[04:50] <madmoomix> right, well, potential fix did nothing
[04:50] <danbhfive> kazol: have you tried reconfiguring xserver?
[04:50] <JoCo> IndyGunFreak, if i click enable restricted drivers when i reboot I get a black idle screen
[04:50] <sergiuu> how to hide mounted partition from desktop?
[04:51] <Ex-Cyber> cdrtools and dvd+rw-tools work fine, but I can't get CD/DVD Creator or Brasero to recognize the presence of blank discs (neither CD nor DVD); how can I fix this?
[04:51] <IndyGunFreak> JoCo: do you get any error during that idle screen?
[04:51] <madmoomix> Installing Ubuntu still stops all ubuntu kernals from loading, even off of live cds.
[04:51] <arbir> anybody uses Audacious ? I need help on that please.
[04:51] <kazol> danbhfive: X server does start (with proper resolution, etc.) but I don't see any icons.
[04:51] <chris_420> oh one last question....   you know when you boot up? you get the stock black screen with the ubuntu text and the ubuntu siybol and the status bar?  how do i change that
[04:51] <chris_420> < uses audacious!!!
[04:51] <IndyGunFreak> arbir: just ask your question..
[04:51] <blbrown> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=4858733#post4858733
[04:51] <bazhang> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=705812 neon this may help
[04:51] <tbielawa> arbir have you tried the forums yet?
[04:51] <hydrogen> !splash | chris_420
[04:51] <JoCo> IndyGunFreak, no its right after the ubuntu loadin splash and the screen just goes black, but if i type my username and pw i can hear the ubuntu login sounds, its like the monitor isnt even there
[04:51] <chris_420> arbir whats up ?
[04:51] <arbir> how can i increase the general viewport size of audacious ? i tried menu option VIew-> Scale and still nothing is happening.
[04:51] <hydrogen> hmm
[04:51] <hydrogen> !bootsplash
[04:52] <david_-_-> how do i load a iso image of xubuntu into vb?
[04:52] <IndyGunFreak> JoCo: that suggests a xorg issue.
[04:52] <arbir> tbielawa: i have been trying and googling for the past 1 hr
[04:52] <IndyGunFreak> JoCo: is it a very new or very old monitor, perhaps an old crt, or a very new widescreen?
[04:52] <ere4si> !usplash | chris_420
[04:52] <mjbrooks> chris_420, usplash
[04:52] <wastrel> sergiuu:  gconf-editor  apps/nautilus/desktop/volumes_visible
[04:52] <arbir> i need to squint my eyes to see audacious
[04:52] <maw> how can I get all the root CA? I am trying to run postfix with TLS and I am unable to verify people's certificates
[04:52] <kazol> danbhfive: Do you think I should reconfigure it somehow?
[04:52] <chris_420> hydrogen.... i tried that and all it did was change the screen  that splashes after gdm(login)
[04:52] <JoCo> IndyGunFreak, Its a 19" Dell FlatPanel LCD probably 2-3 years old
[04:53] <IndyGunFreak> JoCo: weird.. sounds like you're gonna need to do xorg surgery thoug
[04:53] <chris_420> hmmmmm....  let me dgo dig deeper haha
[04:53] <hydrogen> chris_420: yea.. I was hoping that ubottu would spit out a different factoid
[04:53] <sergiuu> wastrel thx
[04:53] <arbir> chris_420: did you see my question ?
[04:53] <phoenix180> I believe I have messed my pc up completely.  After several hours yesterday I finally managed to install kubuntu onto my pc(ubuntu 7.10 and ubuntu 8.04 refuse to load).  Tonight for no reason at all I decided to try 7.10 again and so as a result, it didn't fully install and my question is this: can I still use my kubuntu setup? or did I just mess things up?
[04:53] <mjbrooks> !usplash
[04:53] <chris_420> but first im a go beat up moms computer....
[04:53] <JoCo> Yikes I wouldn't know where to start.....
[04:53] <chris_420> arbir sure did.... i use audacious... didn't see any question after that....
[04:53] <arbir> chris_420: how can i increase the general viewport size of audacious ?
[04:53] <IndyGunFreak> JoCo: try googling your monitor model, and "Ubuntu problems", or something like that
[04:54] <wastrel> phoenix180: will it boot?
[04:54] <arbir> chris_420: i tried menu option View-> Scale and still nothing is happening.
[04:54] <DSMatthews_> Looking for up-to-date docs for connecting to WiFi with hidden SSID and WPA-PSK security, using usb wifi key which works fine if all security turned off on wifi router, Window$ boxes connecting OK, but not Ubuntu 8.04 :-(
[04:54] <chris_420> hydrogen: it never does when you want it do lol....
[04:54] <JoCo> IndyGunFreak, all right will do, thanks a lot indy!
[04:54] <IndyGunFreak> np
[04:54] <phoenix180> wastrel, I don't know yet I have just been trying to re-install kubuntu again
[04:54] <phoenix180> should I at least see if it will boot?
[04:54] <chris_420> arbir one sec... i know how to but let me get the details haha
[04:54] <rich_freecomm> phoenix180: it took me 34 times to get Ubuntu working on my laptop...the good news is that...if you are persistant..it works out..and you'll be glad you were
[04:55] <IndyGunFreak> i installed kubuntu on my mother in laws machine, cuz i knew it was slower than windows.
[04:55] <arbir> chris_420: thanks for making the effort.... :-)
[04:55] <acidicbase> is there a fix for ati and ubuntu 8.0.4?
[04:55] <rich_freecomm> phoenix180: 3-4 times even..not 34 times..I would have def givin up by then
[04:55] <DSMatthews_> It is a shame that WiFi with security is so flaky :-(
[04:55] <IndyGunFreak> acidicbase: what do you mean fix?
[04:55] <drivetrax> acidicbase,  what ati card?
[04:55] <acidicbase> x800xl
[04:55] <IndyGunFreak> DSMatthews_: i use wpa w/o issue..
[04:55] <acidicbase> gnome is slow as hell
[04:55] <chris_420> arbir... when you load it...  in the black area where it shows the time or the song and all that you should be able to see a d.... or D click that...
[04:55] <Mattevt> alright...one more time :)... | In "Monitor Resolution Settings", the "Clones Screens" box is checked. I un-check it, then click "Apply", but somehow it always re-checks it self. How can i fix this?
[04:55] <wastrel> DSMatthews_: hidden ssid is silly.  turning that off might help .  tho wifi with lunix is a bit of voodoo to me still.
[04:55] <acidicbase> was fine in 7.10
[04:55] <IndyGunFreak> acidicbase: lol, you shoud put the pipe down.. :)
[04:56] <chris_420> arbir... it would be on the left side...
[04:56] <DSMatthews_> Indy...: hidden SSID?
[04:56] <bazhang> DSMatthews_: likely usb dongle and wifi is flaky wpa2 works fine here
[04:56] <IndyGunFreak> DSMatthews_: of coure
[04:56] <arbir> chris_420: let me check
[04:56] <acidicbase> no it is slow
[04:56] <IndyGunFreak> (of course
[04:56] <acidicbase> i can see it draw the windows
[04:56] <drivetrax> acidicbase,  the driver 8.4 from the ATI site, must be direct rendering on
[04:56] <acidicbase> ok
[04:56] <tmr0> I'm having a problem where ethernet stops working. Can be fixed by ifconfig eth0 down (then up). Marvell 88E8056 controller.
[04:56] <hydrogen> gnome slow???? blasphemy!!! It's written in C *and* has removed all unnecessary options, how could it possibly be slow!
[04:56] <arbir> yes when i click that i get  a menu @ chris_420
[04:56] <DSMatthews_> Have two laptops, one has Intel chip set, similar pain to get it working.
[04:56] <drivetrax> acidicbase, - does yours has catalyst
[04:56] <phoenix180> ubuntu refuses to install..it's strange.  At 31% it tells me that there is something wrong with either my disk drive, hard drive, or I have a corrupted disk
[04:57] <acidicbase> no, I'm just using what came with 8.0.4
[04:57] <chris_420> crap hold up
[04:57] <drivetrax> uhm
[04:57] <rich_freecomm> (waiting for it)
[04:57] <bazhang> phoenix180: md5sum of the iso may fix that
[04:57] <IndyGunFreak> DSMatthews_: bottom line, its not Linux's fault, its a developer problem, if they would release their drivers to the community so they could be written for Linux, they would work fine, problem is, they wont, so we have to hack ways to use the windows driver.
[04:57] <drivetrax> acidicbase,  either use the restricted drivers.. or get and install from ATI/AMD
[04:58] <acidicbase> yea i have restricted drivers, it says in use
[04:58] <IndyGunFreak> DSMatthews_: i use atheros and mad wifi, works perfect.. i hide my essid, have wpa, etc.., no probs
[04:58] <DSMatthews_> Indy..: agreed
[04:58] <drivetrax> acidicbase,  If those do not work, the work around is to remove them.. and use the Ubuntu 7.10 generic
[04:58] <just> hello I can,t connect with WP from far away, i use dell vostro 1400, someone can help me
[04:58] <phoenix180> I will try that bazhang
[04:58] <Cpudan80> just: from far away?
[04:58] <just> yupz
[04:58] <Cpudan80> just: How far is far ?
[04:58] <just> may 20 m
[04:58] <Cpudan80> ehhhh how many feet is that?
[04:58] <arbir> chris_420: what do i do ?
[04:59] <drivetrax> acidicbase,  are you familiar with xorg.conf?
[04:59] <just> but from near about 5m, i conneted well
[04:59] <IndyGunFreak> only issue i have on my laptop w/ Ubuntu, is battery life...
[04:59] <acidicbase> drivetrax: I will try to download the one from ati's site, what do you mean direct rendering?
[04:59] <acidicbase> drivetrax: yea
[04:59] <phoenix180> ok if my PC loads, can I then attempt to just fix what is missing?
[04:59] <IndyGunFreak> i'm not really sure it would be better w/ Vista or XP
[04:59] <DSMatthews_> Indy...: will dig around and see if I can sort it out, but some uptodate docs for the low level Wifi stuff on 8.04 would help, may be I'll have to write them. ;-)
[04:59] <Cpudan80> just: Is there a wall or something in the way?
[04:59] <chris_420> arbir...  if you left click on the D  which should be second from the bottom on that side it should close to double the size
[04:59] <egc> hi, does anybody here have an ati radeon 9800 with desktop effects enabled?
[05:00] <Cpudan80> just: 20 meters is like 65 ft --- that's probably too far away
[05:00] <kazol> This is ridiculous, the first time I've tried upgrading (Dapper), it failed....I've asked *several* people about upgrading Gutsy->Heron and it was all good for them...I try upgrading, and I'm left with this blank screen.
[05:00] <chris_420> arbir.... other then that it seems the only way to make it bigger other then changing the resolution of your screen or something
[05:00] <just> if I use windows xp it's connected well.
[05:00] <egc> mine works, but hesitates at times, and i wonder if thats normal
[05:00] <arbir> chris_420: the D is the second from the bottom
[05:00] <IndyGunFreak> DSMatthews_: beauty of it is, only thing stopping you, is you.. :)
[05:00] <kazol> I am seriously loosing faith in Ubuntu developers.
[05:00] <drivetrax> acidicbase,  there is a caommand to see if the vid card is using tha rendering, but first try the install of that Huge linux driver from ati.. and see if it works for your card.  For my 9600 AIW, it was no good.
[05:00] <DSMatthews_> And the void....
[05:00] <Cpudan80> just: It's probably barely connected --- XP does weird things with wifi
[05:00] <DSMatthews_> ... of knowledge I must traverse. ;-)
[05:00] <chris_420> arbir yes... from the bottom of the black area... theres a V  then above it is a D
[05:00] <acidicbase> drivetrax: will do
[05:00] <IndyGunFreak> lol, true.
[05:01] <rjune_> I'm running Hardy, when I try to start firefox, it tells me that it's already running and I have to close it or reboot
[05:01] <IndyGunFreak> kazol: on eof these days people will learn, upgrades always suck, do clean installs, and you'll have no headaches
[05:01] <rjune_> I rebooted, and it's still telling me that. what lockfile do I have to delete
[05:01] <arvind_khadri> ikonia, are you around
[05:01] <arbir> chris_420: i have already done that through the menu option, and still its super small
[05:01] <mjbrooks> kazol, perhaps there is something specific to how you do your setup that causes the breakage
[05:01] <chris_420> < plays  amy winehouse rehab....
[05:01] <drivetrax> acidicbase,  if the driver does not work remove it, disable restricted drivers, and that would mean removing fglrx
[05:01] <just> before I have use ubuntu fiesty itu working well. but now I change to hardy
[05:01] <arvind_khadri> bazhang, hello
[05:01] <DSMatthews_> Thanks guys, will let you know if I discover anything worth sharing.  Bye
[05:01] <egc> drivetrax: it seems like that ati driver was for 9800 and above
[05:01] <arbir> chris_420: also , if i play audacious, all other programs are not able to output their sounds
[05:01] <kazol> IndyGunFreak: Maybe I should just install Gentoo.
[05:01] <bazhang> arvind_khadri: hi
[05:02] <drivetrax> egc,  I fink
[05:02] <chris_420> arbir yeah i think that has to do with the xmms/winamp heritage haha
[05:02] <IndyGunFreak> kazol: lmao, yeah.. there's a problem-free distro..lol
[05:02] <arvind_khadri> bazhang, issue with the resolution
[05:02] <momelod> hello ubuntu friends
[05:02] <bazhang> kazol: that is offtopic here thanks
[05:02] <arvind_khadri> bazhang, cat set 1024x
[05:02] <HardyOne> rjune_: type ps aux | grep firefox and find the PID usualy 5 numbers and then type kill PID ( replace with the numbers )
[05:02] <bazhang> arvind_khadri: what card and what drivers how installed
[05:02] <rjune_> HardyOne: I rebooted.
[05:02] <momelod> i upgraded to hardy, and now i cannot use sudo
[05:02] <tbielawa> rjune_: some time firefox won't shut down cleanly. try running `killall -9 firefox` in a terminal
[05:02] <arbir> chris_420: is there no way out of that audacious, hogging the sound device ?
[05:02] <chris_420> arbir i think thats relatively normal.... mine does the same....  but i always turn off the sounds in most of my programms from the get go lol
[05:02] <kazol> bazhang: Well I wasted all this time configuring this desktop, now I need to reinstall all over.
[05:02] <arvind_khadri> bazhang, nvidia 7300 gt restricted drivers no envy
[05:02] <rjune_> tbielawa: again, I rebooted. this is still hapening.
[05:02] <kazol> bazhang: I'm sick of Ubuntu right now.
[05:02] <drivetrax> oh my
[05:02] <chris_420> arbir im not to sure about that hold on one sec
[05:02] <egc> is the ati proprietary driver available in the repo the same as whats available from the ati site??
[05:03] <bazhang> kazol: best to take a break then
[05:03] <kazol> bazhang: The same thing happened TWICE! On *different* hardware.
[05:03] <hydrogen> tbielawa: sending -SKILL is a bit drastic in most cases
[05:03] <just> Cpudan80: before i use ubuntu fiesty it's working goods
[05:03] <Cpudan80> just
[05:03] <Cpudan80> oopps
[05:03] <arbir> chris_420: suppose if i need to play my youtube video, then i pause my song, and see my video. but audacious, just sucks away all the audio.
[05:03] <kazol> mjbrooks: I'm not aware of anything specific.
[05:03] <rjune_> yeah, TERM works fine usually.
[05:03] <bazhang> kazol feisty did not work for me--> but this should be in #ubuntu-offtopic
[05:03] <momelod> egc, use envy to install your ati drivers..
[05:03] <arvind_khadri> bazhang, i have been reconfiguring X a 100 times nothing seems to work
[05:03] <Cpudan80> its possible there was some minor change to the driver - I really dont know :-/
[05:03] <drivetrax> bazhang,  is Hardy preconfigured.. some modules for some pc
[05:03] <mjbrooks> kazol, if you have your /home on a seperate partition, or backup and restore you entire /home directory you won't need to reconfig your desktop
[05:03] <tbielawa> hydrogen:, rjune_ We use this script in my office: http://csee.wvu.edu/~tbielawa/fixMozilla
[05:03] <bazhang> arvind_khadri: 7300? works fine here
[05:04] <bazhang> arvind_khadri: PM?
[05:04] <kazol> mjbrooks: I'll still lose some system settings and installed programs.
[05:04] <chris_420> arbir it seems to be the case
[05:04] <arvind_khadri> bazhang, it used to work with 7.10 not here...compiz doesnt work with out the drivers
[05:04] <hydrogen> tbielawa: thats a pretty huge amount of code to replace a one line entry
[05:04] <Crito> I installed ubuntu on a usb external drive. when I boot up grub says" rror 2"
[05:04] <bazhang> drivetrax: you mean kernle modules?
[05:04] <arbir> chris_420: how is it, that such a big issue has been overlooked ?
[05:04] <arvind_khadri> bazhang, i reconfigured my X and all this happend
[05:04] <brak014> can anyone help me, for some reason i dont have any audio from music video or web browser
[05:04] <rjune_> tbielawa: I wasn't removing .parentlock. thank you
[05:04] <chris_420> unless theres a way to run multiple sessions ot the audio driver
[05:04] <tbielawa> hydrogen: it covers allllll the bases and you only run one line ;)
[05:04] <arvind_khadri> bazhang, can i get back my old X??
[05:04] <tbielawa> rjune_: you're welcome!
[05:05] <arbir> chris_420: Rythmbox is choppy when i minimise and maximise windows
[05:05] <bazhang> arvind_khadri: pm okay?
[05:05] <Crito> is there some sort of "guide" on installing+booting from USB drives?
[05:05] <chris_420> arbir im not sure.... but im thinking it might be a positive...
[05:05] <k20a> i can set my display right with displayconfig but then on restart it goes back to the max settings what should i do?
[05:05] <arbir> chris_420: so, i need a good music player which is light weight
[05:05] <chris_420> arbir... rhythmbox only has one thing going for it.... the ease of adding many files at the same time haha
[05:05] <drivetrax> bazhang,  yes.. are some of them pre-configured .. I see folks here saying repeatative things.. like the hang at the login.. like this video driver issue .. etc
[05:05] <hydrogen> arbir: mpg321!
[05:05] <arbir> chris_420: rythmbox also helps me copy files from my ipod and other ipods.
[05:06] <Ded_Ryzing> are there any screencasting apps that actually work with hardy and nvidia drivers?
[05:06] <chris_420> arbir that might help but i know i had the same prob with xmms...
[05:06] <arbir> hydrogen:  let me check
[05:06] <Mattevt> I have Ubuntu installed on a 15 gig partition. I save all my files to the partition that windows is on (125 gig). Is there anything wrong with this, or should I resize the partitions and move everything to the Ubuntu-side.
[05:06] <bazhang> drivetrax: well there are a *few* bugs to be worked out with Hardy atm; the perils of early adoption :)
[05:06] <drivetrax> Ded_Ryzing,  screencasting?  whas that?
[05:06] <Crito> any help please?
[05:06] <chris_420> < has no mp3 player other then my cd player so thats not an issue for me haha
[05:06] <Ded_Ryzing> desktop vid recording
[05:06] <skarface> Mattevt: there's nothing wrong with that if you're still using windows
[05:06] <drivetrax> bazhang,  -- I'm seeing that..
[05:06] <larson9999> yeah, ubuntu has had a locking up issue for a long time now.  don't have it with any other distro :(
[05:06] <hydrogen> bazhang: shouldn't perils of early adoption go away by the time its released...?
[05:06] <arbir> chris_420: also, audacious is not showing those popups from the system tray when song changes
[05:07] <just> so fast here
[05:07] <drivetrax> Ded_Ryzing,  yes, there is that for linux
[05:07] <chris_420> arbir you have that plugin initialized?
[05:07] <just> amazing
[05:07] <arbir> yeah its on the system tray @ chris_420
[05:07] <chris_420> arbir what version ubuntu you running?
[05:07] <Netham45> there's a program that lets me install Ubuntu from an XP install, can someone tell me what it's named?
[05:07] <arbir> 8.x @ chris_420
[05:07] <bazhang> hydrogen: hard to do with 6mos release cycle though
[05:07] <Ded_Ryzing> For Ubuntu 8.04...have tried Istanbul and xvidcap (and others) and none seem to work
[05:08] <Psyco_Chipmunkk> Hey guys
[05:08] <chris_420> arbir same here i just upgraded and so far knock on wood im having little problem with it haha
[05:08] <bazhang> Netham45: wubi?
[05:08] <phoenix180> Netham45 do you mean Wubi?
[05:08] <Psyco_Chipmunkk> I have a few problems with my new instalation of ubuntu hardy haron
[05:08] <drivetrax> Ded_Ryzing,  load up your add/remove programs and look in Sound&Video
[05:08] <JoCo> Psyco_Chipmunkk, what would they be?
[05:08] <hydrogen> bazhang: which suggests that a six month release cycle is a bad idea
[05:08] <arbir> chris_420: so far, 8.x has been choppy on my laptop..
[05:08] <wastrel> i love the 6mo cycle
[05:08] <danbhfive> hydrogen: muahahaha, all of linux is early adoption! the joke is on you!
[05:08] <arbir> dont know if thats the case with other people as well
[05:09] <Psyco_Chipmunkk> first of all, for some reason, the sound on the applications of my computer wil go off and on, but programs like firefox with always have sound
[05:09] <Psyco_Chipmunkk> But now VLC
[05:09] <Fezzler> For some reason, after upgrading to Hardy, my login screen resolution is too low 800x600.  How do i fix?
[05:09] <drivetrax> Avidemux
[05:09] <Mattevt> skarface: ok thanks, I just wanted to be sure i wasn't hurting anything, by storing files in windows and accessing them through ubuntu. I just wanted to try ubuntu, then when I decided I liked it better, I started doing all my work in ubuntu and just saving it in vista's space.
[05:09] <hydrogen> bazhang: reguardless of what our favorite diety Mr. Shuttleworth likes to preach
[05:09] <mjbrooks> kazol, this might interest you http://aptoncd.sourceforge.net/
[05:09] <erat123> i'm trying to learn how to use Anjuta IDE.  Does anyone know of any good references for learning this?
[05:09] <Psyco_Chipmunkk> Or rythmbox
[05:09] <Netham45> bazhang, phoenix180 yes, thanks.
[05:09] <Psyco_Chipmunkk> So, wtf?
[05:09] <chris_420> arbir ahhh.... what laptop you got?
[05:10] <el_ja|out> hello i have a problem when using wubi, after installing it shows inconsisten filesystem structure
[05:10] <arbir> chris_420: i have an inspiron 9300
[05:10] <el_ja|out> anyone knows how to fix this?
[05:10] <just> hello Cup
[05:10] <brak014> my audio card is weird with ubuntu (running 8.04) if i am running firefox and playing a video from it i cant play a song from rhythmbox without closing firefox and then restarting rhythmbox
[05:10] <Psyco_Chipmunkk> So, whats wrong ??
[05:10] <mjbrooks> *sigh* I have two XP->Kubuntu conversions and one Vista->Ubuntu conversion tomorrow... gonna be a long day
[05:10] <just> any one use dell vostro 1400
[05:10] <brak014> anyone know how to fix this
[05:10] <Psyco_Chipmunkk> I thought ubuntu was sooo stable?
[05:10] <arbir> chris_420: my display is very bright.. i use the Nvidia X server settings to get the gamma corection going..
[05:10] <chris_420> arbir come to think of it i have never had to programs make sound at the same time... sometimes it even through an error or a  warning... like hey your audio stuff is already busy
[05:11] <darkcrab> I noticed that adobe.com is only offering rpm files now, so what are my choices for flash and what is the best?
[05:11] <drivetrax> Kino
[05:11] <arbir> chris_420: but each time, i start up, my display its super bright.. and i need to reset it through that ndivia control panel
[05:11] <chris_420> arbir ahhh
[05:11] <arbir> Psyco_Chipmunkk: why do u think ubuntu is not stable ?
[05:11] <skarface> !flash
[05:11] <ere4si> !flash | darkcrab
[05:11] <IndyGunFreak> Psyco_Chipmunkk: it is stable... its probably a user malfunction
[05:11] <tbielawa> brak014: it sounds like you don't have a sound mixer running, check over your audio settings and see if "enable software eound mixing" is checked ont he second page
[05:11] <el_ja|out> can anybody help?
[05:12] <arbir> chris_420: why do you say aah ?
[05:12] <chris_420> arbir i have a couple programs i have to go through that with... im thinking its mostly do to linux being meant to have long uptimes
[05:12] <darkcrab> thank you
[05:12] <bazhang> mjbrooks: :)
[05:12] <just> what your problem el jalout
[05:12] <mjbrooks> !anyone > el_ja|out
[05:12] <el_ja|out> heh
[05:12] <chris_420> arbir last message haha
[05:12] <drivetrax> OME, open movie editor?
[05:12] <Psyco_Chipmunkk> arbir: read what i said up there
[05:12] <RyanPrior> Wubi is awesome! Good show with that.
[05:12] <IndyGunFreak> !wubi | el_ja|out
[05:12] <brak014> ugh i thought you guys would be a bigger help
[05:12] <el_ja|out> well, i installed inside windows with wubi
[05:12] <Psyco_Chipmunkk> IndyGunFreak: so its unstable?
[05:12] <drivetrax> Pitivi - NLE
[05:12] <IndyGunFreak> Psyco_Chipmunkk: no, i think you're unstable
[05:12] <tbielawa> brak014: did you see my message up above?
[05:12] <Psyco_Chipmunkk> Or, if it is stable, how do i fix this little problem?
[05:12] <el_ja|out> and everything goes ok, but when i try to boot it shows inconsistent filesystem structure
[05:13] <Psyco_Chipmunkk> IndyGunFreak:  i'm fine
[05:13] <bazhang> brak014: you may not get an instant answer; best to wait until more folks are active
[05:13] <mjbrooks> bazhang, more like  =D
[05:13] <chris_420> bl;ack eyed peas suck lol
[05:13] <el_ja|out> i tried with the 64 and 32 bit iso and happens with both
[05:13] <chris_420> black even
[05:13] <drivetrax> for over $5,000 you can get the NewTek Studio.. it is broadcast equipment, software native to linux
[05:13] <brak014> oh sorry i missed it thanks dude
[05:13] <just> anyone can help with wireless config
[05:13] <el_ja|out> I read something about setting savedefault to false, but its not working either
[05:13] <drivetrax> NewTek bought the Toaster software
[05:14] <chris_420> RALINK CHIPSETS ROCK
[05:14] <drivetrax> offtopic.. sorry
[05:14] <mjbrooks> !anyone
[05:14] <Netham45> christhen you got lucky. :D
[05:14] <Psyco_Chipmunkk> What can i do to fix this sound issue?
[05:14] <Netham45> chris_420
[05:14] <chris_420> mjbrooks>.. anyone?
[05:14] <chris_420> netham45 wuts up?
[05:14] <Psyco_Chipmunkk> WHy do some programs play sound one hour but the next they dont?
[05:14]  * mjbrooks loads his shotgun
[05:14] <blbrown> FF: I have restarted it like 500 times in the last hour
[05:14] <brak014> its checked and i was having the problem already
[05:14] <Netham45> chris_420, you got lucky then. :D
[05:14] <blbrown> oops, just crashed
[05:14] <wastrel> too much youtube
[05:15] <tbielawa> Psyco_Chipmunkk: solar flares
[05:15] <Fezzler> Any idea why my login screen resolution would be different from GNOME?  It's too low and I don't know how to adjust it.
[05:15] <chris_420> netham with what? ralink chipsets?
[05:15] <bazhang> Psyco_Chipmunkk: there is an outstanding bug with that; best to play one source of sound for now--esp youtube and mp3
[05:15] <drivetrax> Hey, for those using FireFox.. there is.. Seamonkey
[05:15] <strobedream> for some odd reason when I leave my computer on screensaver for a while... like a weekend I have to reboot it.
[05:15] <RyanPrior> drivetrax: Seamonkey is much more bloated than Firefox is, unfortunately.
[05:15] <chris_420> netham...  it seems to be pretty plug and play for me lol.... well except for the whole broken antenna thing lol
[05:15] <Psyco_Chipmunkk> tbielawa what?
[05:16] <drivetrax> ry yeah, but I like e-mail right there built-in, and HTML editor.. oooohhhh yeah
[05:16] <chris_420> arbir.... did i answer all your questions? i have a feeling that i missed something
[05:16] <ere4si> strobedream: the hard disks prob get turned off with a bios setting
[05:16] <el_ja|out> so nothing?
[05:16] <Psyco_Chipmunkk> bazhang: theres no fix?
[05:16] <tbielawa> Psyco_Chipmunkk: I was just messing around
[05:16] <Netham45> chris_420, I've had many kernel panics as the results of ralink chipsets
[05:16] <bazhang> Bodsda: got to head out; will try to fix your problem when I get back
[05:16] <strobedream> ere4si: cool thanks I'll look into that.
[05:16] <adub> http://paste.ubuntu.com/9375/    <---- help help make error cant figure this one out
[05:16] <drivetrax> Ryan52,  -- besides... Mozzy gold is what I started with
[05:16] <bazhang> Psyco_Chipmunkk: that bug is being worked on yes
[05:17] <bazhang> Psyco_Chipmunkk: you can read the bug reports and see if there are any workarounds in the meantime
[05:17] <chris_420> netham45  ouch.... never had the kernel spaz on me yet... but then again im noly into linux about a year( as a total)
[05:17] <chris_420> so i got a while lol
[05:17] <Psyco_Chipmunkk> bazhang:  so its for everyone? when is it expected to be fixed?
[05:17] <drivetrax> Opera.. has gotten very good..
[05:17] <Netham45> heh, I had some cheapo chipset, it crashedalot.
[05:17] <Netham45> Opera is very good. :D
[05:17] <brak014> i unchecked the box and it worked fine but i cant do system sounds, that works by me :D
[05:18] <mjbrooks> el_ja|out, try to not use line breaks as punctuation, it's tough to follow what you are saying
[05:18] <sam_> when i install a program in synaptic why doesnt it show up in my applications list
[05:18] <tbielawa> adub: you know there is a package for that, you shouldn't need to compile it
[05:18] <el_ja|out> ok, let me write it again
[05:18] <Bodsda> bazhang: u back or have u left?
[05:18] <drivetrax> I think Flash-9 might be an issue under FF2, and mebe FF3 will fix0r that.. dunno
[05:18] <wastrel> sam_: not all programs add an entry in the menu
[05:18] <ere4si> sam_: some do - some don't - depends how they're written
[05:18] <bazhang> Psyco_Chipmunkk: not for everyone--> the fix date no idea best to watch the bug report on that or just listen to one sound source--you might try switching to alsa instead of autodetect as well
[05:18] <chris_420> netham45 and also  have only dealt with like 3-4 versions of ubuntu... as well as knoppix was my first live cd haha
[05:18] <chris_420> brb yall
[05:18] <[Lowkey]> Can someone please help me install the driver for the spca5xx chipset?
[05:18] <Psyco_Chipmunkk> Oh, and another problem.  My programs keep freazing.  They just stop working and i have to reopen them
[05:18] <sam_> ok, so where do i go to run the ones that dont
[05:19] <adub> tbielawa i could not find it
[05:19] <Netham45> chris_420, I started Ubuntu with 6.10
[05:19] <bazhang> Bodsda: just heading out; hope to work that out with you later
[05:19] <nickellery> !cube
[05:19] <tbielawa> adub: tell me your setup, what ubuntu are you running
[05:19] <wastrel> sam_: you can use alt-f2 and type the name
[05:19] <ere4si> sam_: typing their name in a terminal is usually enough
[05:19] <Bodsda> bazhang: ok, cya dude
[05:19] <sam_> ok, thanks
[05:20] <wastrel> sam_: also you can add things to the menu with alacarte, or create a launcher
[05:20] <chris_420> back
[05:20] <adub> Linux adub-laptop 2.6.22-14-generic #1 SMP Tue Feb 12 07:42:25 UTC 2008 i686 GNU     Ubuntu 7.04
[05:20] <DeNT_> hello is anyone around
[05:20] <bazhang> Psyco_Chipmunkk: that is another issue; the more info you provide the better folks can help you--there may not be instant answers however thanks
[05:20] <chris_420> heatlightning rocks haha
[05:20] <drivetrax> anyone around.. hahaha
[05:20] <el_ja|out> I installed ubuntu using wubi in one of my HD that has some space left. So everything goes ok, it reboots then install ubuntu, then reboots again. Grub comes out and when I choose to boot ubuntu (normal and safe mode) it shows "Error 16: inconsistent file structure". Tried 64 and 32 bit version and both the same problem
[05:20] <[Lowkey]> Can someone please help me install the driver for the spca5xx chipset? I need it for my webcam.
[05:20] <tbielawa> adub: it's packaged in hardy, you aren't running hardy... are you?
[05:21] <DeNT_> i need help installling drivers on tx2000z
[05:21] <adub> no
[05:21] <chris_420> netham45: i think thats the first ubuntu install i did from cd  the first adventure from livecd's lol
[05:21] <adub> i can download the deb tho cant i?
[05:21] <wastrel> [Lowkey]: where are you stuck
[05:21] <[Lowkey]> I don't even know where to get it :(
[05:21] <mjbrooks> el_ja|out, I'm not familiar with wubi installs... are you installing it on an NTFS partition or are you reformatting the drive that has space?
[05:21] <`KoRn> hi anyone, i just installed postgresql how do i start using it?
[05:21] <Mattevt> sorry...another silly question: I'm used to winrar and the whole .exe deal. I extracted a tar.gz file to the desktop, what am I looking for to install this?
[05:21] <tbielawa> adub you can try, here's the url: http://packages.ubuntu.com/hardy/p2kmoto
[05:22] <wastrel> [Lowkey]: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Spca5xx
[05:22] <chris_420> netham45: i remeber when you used to be able to reliably upgrade distros from the commandline haha
[05:22] <ere4si> Mattevt: just double click it
[05:22] <[Lowkey]> :D Thank you wastrel
[05:22] <adub> how would i download the deb
[05:22] <Psyco_Chipmunkk> ok, a update on my problem...  When i try to play like a song in rythembox,  nothing work's now as it did yesterday.  I click a song and the song progress bar doesent even move
[05:22] <chris_420> now its recommended not to hahaaaaaaaaaa
[05:22] <el_ja|out> I'm not reformatting, because that drive has some folder from windows and it has like 60gb left, so the wubi installer lets me choose that drive to make a partition. I think its doing another ntfs, I'm not sure.
[05:23] <Mattevt> double click what, ere4si?  I just want to know which does which
[05:23] <tbielawa> adub: http://packages.ubuntu.com/hardy/i386/p2kmoto/download
[05:23] <mjbrooks> el_ja|out, I think you need to do a scandisk in windows on that drive
[05:23] <adam7> Mattevt, are you trying to install something?
[05:23] <darkcrab> fyi, just in case anyone does know, wubi is on for trials.
[05:23] <drivetrax> el_ja|out,  to actually mount .. I believe you use LVM
[05:23] <ere4si> Mattevt: is there a readme file?
[05:23] <darkcrab> doesnt
[05:23] <Mattevt> yes adam7
[05:24] <darkcrab> only
[05:24] <Mattevt> i'm looking now
[05:24] <el_ja|out> mjbrooks ok I'll try
[05:24] <thanhlong> chào
[05:24] <Mattevt> yes there's a readme, but it didn't help
[05:24] <el_ja|out> drivetrax I don't know how to use lvm
[05:24] <adam7> Mattevt, you probably want to use the package manage (Synaptic) found in System -> Administration -> Package Manager to install things, it is *far* easier :)
[05:24] <thanhlong> hi
[05:24] <Mattevt> oh, thanks adam7. I'll try that.
[05:24] <mjbrooks> el_ja|out, an incositent filesystem on an NTFS partition means windows didn't let it go cleanly
[05:24] <No1CaNTeL> hey guys, I was here before asking for some help with setting up my webcam, I have tried the the options from ubottu but none of them are working :( my cam should be supported but when I try the "make" commands of the packages selected I get errors. I think I might of messed up the settings by now from trying all of the options available.
[05:24] <`KoRn> ubuntu-women
[05:25] <No1CaNTeL> any help getting this working would be appreciated :D
[05:25] <darkcrab> do you have to run maintenance scripts in ubuntu
[05:25] <adub> dependancy not satisfied libc6
[05:25] <wastrel> No1CaNTeL: you need the "build-essential" package to run "make"
[05:25] <strobedream> How do I get all the man pages for things like time.h on my machine?
[05:26] <wastrel> strobedream: manpages-dev
[05:26] <el_ja|out> mjbrooks I'm going to, and tell you what happens after
[05:26] <No1CaNTeL> make seems to work but it fails while processing
[05:26] <strobedream> wastrel: thanks
[05:26] <No1CaNTeL> where do I find build essentials?
[05:26] <Mattevt> whoa, adam7, thanks.
[05:26] <mjbrooks> No1CaNTeL, sudo apt-get install build-essential
[05:27] <No1CaNTeL> yeah, it was already installed
[05:27] <strobedream> wastrel: ok so I did that, but I still get no manpage. Is there a way I can rebuild them?
[05:27] <drivetrax> Wubi - Can I move my virtual disk file to a dedicated partition? (YES) use LVPM.
[05:27] <mjbrooks> No1CaNTeL, what do the errors during make say?
[05:27] <wastrel> strobedream: man time.h  ?
[05:27] <adam7> Mattevt, that is probably the most different thing about Ubuntu then Windows - but it allows you to easily install any software, or to upgrade the entire system at once :)
[05:27] <No1CaNTeL> when I run the commands from the help page I was suggested to use, the processes while running make seem to fail
[05:27] <thanhlong> chane group
[05:28] <No1CaNTeL> mj, one sec
[05:28] <wastrel> strobedream: try man 2 time
[05:28] <strobedream> wastrel: it says no manual entry. Even though manpages-dev is up to date.
[05:28] <strobedream> ahh
[05:28] <strobedream> ok
[05:28] <strobedream> wastrel: that got me something
[05:28] <DeNT_> hello
[05:29] <DeNT_> hello all...
[05:29] <wastrel> yes hello
[05:30] <DeNT_> is any1 familiar with tx2000z?
[05:30] <mjbrooks> meh
[05:30] <No1CaNTeL> mjbrooks: http://pastebin.com/m7c257936
[05:30] <adub> tbielawa im assuming you have or had a motorola razor.  Have you been able to get moto4lin to work??
[05:30] <mjbrooks> !anyone
[05:30] <adub> i have it installed but it will not connect to my razor
[05:30] <adub> the razor will charge off my laptop so the drivers are working
[05:31] <DeNT_> how do i get sound working on tx2000z
[05:31] <mjbrooks> No1CaNTeL, are you executing that command with sudo?
[05:31] <MrAristo> Nice, this place does exist.
[05:32] <No1CaNTeL> I have one other q too, if one of ya can PLEASE help with this :D for some reason when I run console, my "l" button loads a new console window instead of typing the character "l", anyone have an idea why? "L" works but not "l"
[05:32] <Mattevt> I'm trying to access Pandora.com (it streams custom radio). It's flash, (I'm guessing, judging by the large "play" symbols.) and the load freezes at the same spot every time.
[05:32] <No1CaNTeL> mjbrooks: yes I am
[05:32] <bullgard4> What is the reason that top and GNOME system monitor designate the process /usr/bin/X as 'Xorg'?
[05:32] <surplusxmas> What are the drawbacks to using encrypted LVM?
[05:32] <ZehRique> og_: Maciel?
[05:32] <adub> or is this p2k program let you mess with the filesystem??
[05:33] <mjbrooks> No1CaNTeL, it looks like you might not have the right version of gcc installed
[05:34] <No1CaNTeL> gcc version 4.1.3 20070929 (prerelease
[05:34] <No1CaNTeL> )
[05:34] <wastrel> No1CaNTeL: sounds like a bad keyboard shortcut got put in
[05:34] <mjbrooks> No1CaNTeL, hmmmm
[05:34] <studentsae> hello..can someone aid in getting r128 card working right in ppc?
[05:34] <prettyricky>  how do I close a program that does not want to close?
[05:34] <prettyricky> It keeps running even after I select to close
[05:34] <AgentHeX> so i see VLC doesn't support sftp connections.  is there a way to map an SSH connection to a folder to make the link transparent?
[05:34] <wastrel> No1CaNTeL: edit > keyboard shortcuts
[05:34] <surplusxmas> What are the pitfalls/drawbacks to using encryption on an LVM partition scheme?
[05:35] <DeNT_> i found the website link for the sounds
[05:35] <DeNT_> but its not working
[05:35] <bullgard4> prettyricky: Then you might consider to 'kill' its process.
[05:35] <prettyricky> how?
[05:35] <studentsae> prettyricky: ps -ef | more then look for the pid of the process
[05:35] <hydrogen> doesn't gnome have a process monitor?
[05:35] <prettyricky> ok
[05:35] <bullgard4> hydrogen: yes.
[05:35] <hydrogen> in kde you just hit ctrl-escape
[05:35] <wastrel> pgrep/pkill <3 (use with care)
[05:35] <wastrel> also xkill
[05:35] <hydrogen> guis are nice things
[05:36] <hydrogen> I'd suggest recommending their use
[05:36] <mjbrooks> hydrogen, <3 KDE   ;)
[05:36] <hydrogen> rather than age old console fallbacks
[05:36] <wastrel> <3 cli
[05:36] <studentsae> guis are nice because they allow you to open more shells :)
[05:36] <bullgard4> hydrogen: It is called GNOME system monitor.
[05:36] <hydrogen> original..
[05:37] <No1CaNTeL> wastrel: I dont see anything in keyboard shortcuts regarding "l" or terminal
[05:37] <mjbrooks> <3 anythings that gets the job done
[05:37] <DeNT_> hello i cant get my music up and my screen is acting up i have a tx2000 tablet
[05:37] <DeNT_> what can it be
[05:37] <wastrel> so much for that idea
[05:37] <No1CaNTeL> mjbrooks: any other ideas with the cam?
[05:37] <rjune_> <3 women
[05:37] <prettyricky> studentsae----------ok I see a lot of stuff what to do?? by the way the program I cant terminate is NES emulator
[05:37] <rjune_> I was feeling left out.
[05:37] <No1CaNTeL> wastrel: it jsut started to happen a couple days ago, no real reason for it form what I can tell
[05:38] <studentsae> prettyricky: ps -ef | grep nes
[05:38] <No1CaNTeL> I keep havng to cut & paste the letter l each time
[05:38] <hydrogen> prettyricky: start up gnome system monitor
[05:38] <prettyricky> ok ty
[05:38] <hydrogen> and then right click on the process
[05:38] <studentsae> prettyricky: then kill the pids for it
[05:38] <studentsae> should disappear
[05:39] <wastrel> jesus
[05:39] <rjune_> he's ok.
[05:39] <prettyricky> first time doing this,, how do I do that?
[05:39] <wastrel> No1CaNTeL: there's also the gnome shortcuts  system > preferences > keyboard shortcuts
[05:39] <hydrogen> no invocation of religious deities in a secular channel, please
[05:39] <No1CaNTeL> sorry, open terminal window option is set to disabled, it is ther I just missed it but by the looks of it it is not the reason :(
[05:39] <mjbrooks> No1CaNTeL, unless this is you, you aren't the only one https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/spca5xx/+bug/206069
[05:39] <wastrel> there's a "new terminal" shortcut
[05:39] <studentsae> could be that it was the spanish channel..then jesus is cool
[05:40] <No1CaNTeL> wastrel:  oh, that is wher eI went :P
[05:40] <studentsae> just wrong channel
[05:40] <wastrel> prettyricky: alt-f2, xkill  click the window you want to kill
[05:40] <prettyricky> ok thank you
[05:41] <studentsae> prettyricky: kill -9 usually gets the job done ;)
[05:41] <wastrel> No1CaNTeL: in the terminal menu edit > keyboard shortcuts
[05:41] <No1CaNTeL> wastrel: is edit > keyboard shortcuts in the terminal?
[05:41] <wastrel> yeah
[05:41] <hydrogen> studentsae: it's already been pointed out at least once tonight that kill -9 is a *really bad* first resort
[05:41] <solrize> is hardy supposed to support the intel 3945ABG wifi card without needing to download drivers?
[05:42] <prettyricky> studentsae---------you mean type kill -9 in terminal right?
[05:42] <No1CaNTeL> mjbrooks:  ty, I will look this over tonight, and if it is still a prob in the morn I will return the cam and grab a different one
[05:42] <surplusxmas> Should I not use encrypted LVM unless I really need to?
[05:42] <studentsae> hydrogen: ever work with java its sometimes the only resort.
[05:42] <Daisuke_Ido> studentsae: sometimes, that doesn't mean you should resort to it first thing
[05:43] <mjbrooks> solrize, mine works fine
[05:43] <solrize> hmm
[05:43] <studentsae> Daisuke_Ido: true..not for every issue. but as a first resort depends on the issue.
[05:43] <kevineamigh> Hey does anyone know how to get sound from everything to come through my usb headset.  I am using Ubuntu 8.04 Hardy
[05:44] <hydrogen> studentsae: No idea what java has to do with this
[05:44] <hydrogen> studentsae: nothing, based on the previous discussion
[05:44] <hydrogen> unless of course, you just want to provide evidence that java is a really bad langauge
[05:44] <hydrogen> but that soff topic
[05:44] <hydrogen> !
[05:44] <studentsae> hydrogen: alot...if you have a runaway thread.
[05:44] <mjbrooks> solrize, are you on a laptop?
[05:44] <solrize> mjbrooks, yes, thinkpad t61
[05:44] <Daisuke_Ido> again, *if*
[05:45] <hydrogen> so, if you write bad code... you need to take drastic measures?
[05:45] <hydrogen> sounds right to me!
[05:45] <studentsae> hydrogen: then its poor development programming that can cause nasty things to happen to a linux box..sometimes the only resort is to kill -9 ...and until developer fixes it..it is then the first and only resort.
[05:45] <solrize> i notice several bugs in the isntall, i wonder if there will be a bugfix release?
[05:45] <mjbrooks> solrize, does it have a switch to turn it on and off?
[05:45] <arooni-mobile> when i'm connected to a wireless router... how can i get the IP address of the router (to login/administrate).  i'm on ubuntu gutsy.
[05:45] <Daisuke_Ido> hydrogen: like forcing that bad code to be preloaded on almost every pc :)
[05:45] <solrize> the wifi?  yes, it is turned on
[05:45] <prettyricky> Thanks a lot guys!
[05:45] <solrize> at least it says it's in the on position
[05:45] <studentsae> Daisuke_Ido: didnt say i wrote it...:)
[05:45] <solrize> lemme try it in the other position
[05:46] <hydrogen> studentsae: even if you need to kill -9 it, that doesn't mean its the first thing you do
[05:46] <mjbrooks> solrize, lol  i always get mine backwards
[05:46] <surplusxmas> Will encrypted LVM considerably slow down my read/write?  Are there any other drawbacks?
[05:46] <hydrogen> you fall back to it iff kill -15 (or something in between) doesn't work
[05:46] <studentsae> hydrogen: like said..its based on case..then based on that..it might be the resort.
[05:46] <wastrel> arooni-mobile: try "arp"
[05:46] <bullgard4> What is the reason that top and GNOME system monitor designate the process /usr/bin/X as 'Xorg'?
[05:46] <prettyricky> By the way is anyone using NES emulator if so, how in the world do you use the controls.. Do you need a usb controller?
[05:46] <mjbrooks> surplusxmas, the slowdown is slight for normal use
[05:47] <wastrel> or route
[05:47] <surplusxmas> mjbrooks: Thank you.  Can you think of any reason not to use it?
[05:47] <hydrogen> studentsae: right, if you know from *past experience* that you need to kill -9 something, then you can kill -9 that same something again
[05:47] <hydrogen> that does not make it in any way, shape, or form, the first resort if a process is hanging
[05:47] <surplusxmas> mjbrooks: This will be for an average use desktop PC.
[05:47] <kevineamigh> I've been trying for days to get sound to come out of my usb headset for everything, but the login and logout sound still doesn't which isn't important, but it's part of a bigger problem because the game enemy territory also does not send sound through my headset only my speakers which plug into the computer with a analog plug
[05:47]  * Scrounch is now away: off
[05:48] <studentsae> hydrogen: it is a bit circular in logic...but read what you wrote...
[05:48] <mjbrooks> surplusxmas, kinda silly on a desktop PC, definately recommended on a laptop
[05:48] <studentsae> hydrogen: depends on the sitch.
[05:48] <hydrogen> studentsae: no, it doesn't.
[05:48] <hydrogen> studentsae: you are wrong in this case
[05:48] <surplusxmas> mjbrooks: Yes, true.  I've considered that before, but never seriously until now.
[05:48] <studentsae> hydrogen: experience
[05:48] <hydrogen> and argueing won't make you right
[05:49] <Firefishe> I'm using Feisty 7.04 kubuntu. kevineamigh:  Now that was strange.  I was just going to paste a similar problem ;)
[05:49] <studentsae> hydrogen: said it and stated it yourself
[05:49] <surplusxmas> mjbrooks: Especially for home use.  I'm going to go without.  Thanks for your help. :)
[05:49]  * Scrounch is now away: off
[05:49] <hydrogen> studentsae: yes, and that has nothing tod o with what your saying
[05:49] <prettyricky> guys I did a ctrl alt del... that worked,
[05:49] <hydrogen> if process foo requires you to kill -9 it every time it hangs
[05:49] <ere4si> kevineamigh: does the headset show up in     lsusb   ?
[05:49] <hydrogen> that doesn't mean when process bar hangs, you kill -9 it immediatly
[05:49] <prettyricky> newbie here so just trying to learn, thanks for all your help
[05:49]  * Firefishe headset does show up in lsusb
[05:50] <studentsae> hydrogen: well im here to make technical arguments so lets get back on topic...thanks for the 2 cents though.
[05:50] <solrize> bah, laptop had gone into suspend mode and when i hit a key to come out of suspend it started dumping squashfs error messages to the screen and i had to power cycle it]
[05:50] <Firefishe> but I don't have sound.  the volume switch on the cord seems to work though.
[05:50] <hydrogen> studentsae: thats not a technical arguement
[05:50] <kevineamigh> yes my headset does show up
[05:50] <solrize> i'm getting pretty close to saying "hardy doesn't work"
[05:50] <hydrogen> studentsae: you've pretty much said "I'm wrong, but rather than conceeding that I'm wrong I'm going to try and bring up the fact that this is off topic"
[05:50] <Firefishe> I'm keeping Feisty and hardening it
[05:50] <TOPSECRET> ubuntu 8.04 is loading vesa instead of ati for my firegl 9000... how to fix the problem?
[05:50] <hydrogen> prettyricky: you've been given multiple methods of disposing of the process
[05:50] <kevineamigh> wait a sec what is lsusb
[05:51] <ere4si> kevineamigh: in a terminal type   alsamixer and see that all is up
[05:51] <Firefishe> kevineamigh: it's a command line command
[05:51] <prettyricky> hydrogen: ty
[05:51] <studentsae> hydrogen: you win
[05:51] <mjbrooks> solrize, I was close to saying that at first, but now that I've used it a bit I can't imagine going back to Gutsy
[05:51] <prettyricky> does anyone here have a tablet pc if so how did you get the pen to work again?
[05:52] <kevineamigh> yep my headset is the only thing showing up
[05:52] <niuq> hi, i upgraded to ubuntu 8.04, theres any way to go back to 7.10 :)?
[05:52] <prettyricky> I have a toshiba satellite and pen wont work, it was working with 7.10 but updated to 8.04 and wont work now
[05:52] <zionpsyfer> niuq: Unfortunately, no.  You would have to reinstall from scratch.
[05:52] <niuq> zionpsyfer: :(
[05:53] <sektor> what kind of archive is .bz2 ?
[05:53] <mjbrooks> sektor, bzip
[05:53] <kevineamigh> I found a work around when I had gutsy that seemed to work great, but things were working good, but it doesn't work since ubuntu changed to pulse audio as a default in 8.04
[05:53] <niuq> zionpsyfer: i have some troubles with this upgrade, i think i'll have to reinstall 7.04, and waint untill everything is working well with 8.04
[05:53] <ere4si> kevineamigh: I meant turned up
[05:53] <sektor> mjbrooks, so how can i extract articles.xml.bz2
[05:54] <TOPSECRET> ubuntu 8.04 is loading vesa instead of ati for my firegl 9000... how to fix the problem?
[05:54] <hydrogen> sektor: `bunzip`
[05:54] <hydrogen> bunzip2 actually
[05:54] <ere4si> !ati | TOPSECRET
[05:54] <zionpsyfer> niuq: Gah, no good.  What all are you having trouble with?
[05:54] <TOPSECRET> ere4si, firegl does not support this card
[05:55] <sektor> hydrogen, so the command with rules would be ?
[05:55] <kevineamigh> yes it is turned up
[05:55] <TOPSECRET> *fglrx
[05:55] <sriramoman> is there any gui in ubuntu for selinux, preferably as in fedora
[05:55] <wastrel> bunzip2 <filename>
[05:55] <hydrogen> sektor: bunzip2 articles.xml.bz2
[05:55] <kevineamigh> I can hear most things through, it fine, music, movies, the web all send sound through it
[05:57] <navetz> can someone help me get dual screen (extended screen working)
[05:57] <ere4si> kevineamigh: so it is just the game that is the issue for sound?
[05:58] <TOPSECRET> ubuntu 8.04 is loading vesa instead of ati for my firegl 9000... how to fix the problem?
[05:58] <kevineamigh> for the most part the game only sends sound through my speakers not my headset. Also the same is true about the login sound that is made when the system boots
[05:58] <kevineamigh> it doesn't come through my headset
[05:59] <arooni-mobile> when i'm connected to a wireless router... how can i get the IP address of the router (to login/administrate).  i'm on ubuntu gutsy.
[06:00] <dryrot> it's sad xen doesn't work in hardy!  so sad.
[06:00] <ere4si> kevineamigh: if you have a mp3 try this - aplay -c 1 /path/to/mp3 - and see if the sound comes through the headset pls
[06:00] <solrize> any idea how often they put a distro together?  maybe i'll wait for the next one
[06:00] <ere4si> 6 months
[06:01] <sektor> thanx
[06:01] <wastrel> solrize: i have a t61 running hardy
[06:01] <kevineamigh> ok let me try
[06:01] <wastrel> it is super
[06:01] <danfg> what package does dig belong to?
[06:01] <wastrel> i don't use suspend
[06:02] <solrize> wastrel what did you have to do go get the wifi to work?  and did you notice the ethernet config pulldown shows up blank?  and what timezone are you in?  when i try to set it to california, it snaps back to new york.
[06:02] <wastrel> i'm in nyc.  the wifi Just Works, and i don't know what you mean by ethernet config pulldown
[06:03] <wastrel> danfg: dnsutils
[06:03] <TOPSECRET> some serious issues with the network applet in 8.04
[06:04] <TOPSECRET> it doesnt remember wpa2 passwords
[06:04] <wastrel> TOPSECRET: it remembered mine
[06:04] <TOPSECRET> not after changing locations
[06:04] <danfg> wastrel: thank you so much! :)
[06:04] <wastrel> i haven't done that so can't comment.  you should file a bug  :]
[06:05]  * Scrounch is now away: off
[06:06] <solrize> i'm still running the live session haven't actually installed yet, based on the live session having various probs.  maybe they go away with a real install, though part of the install process is to set the timezone and it wouldn't let me do that.
[06:06] <kevineamigh> it doesn't seem to work this is what I typed and it said kevineamigh@kevineamigh-desktop:~$  aplay -c l /media/My Book/limewirefiles/Matchbox20-Unwell.MP3
[06:06] <kevineamigh> aplay: main:444: value 0 for channels is invalid
[06:06] <ere4si> kevineamigh: that should be a one not an l
[06:06]  * Scrounch is now away: off
[06:07] <kevineamigh> oh sorry
[06:07] <ere4si> hehe
[06:08] <cvd-pr> Hey, is there something like this but for linux?   http://www.poppeeper.com/
[06:08] <prettyricky> does anyone here have a tablet pc if so how did you get the pen to work again?
[06:08] <prettyricky> I have a toshiba satellite and pen wont work, it was working with 7.10 but updated to 8.04 and wont work now
[06:08] <Scrounch> set
[06:08] <jim_beam> wow i fixed the logout / shutdown freezes in 8.04
[06:09] <gr1ff1n> hello
[06:09] <wastrel> cvd-pr: try mail-notification
[06:10] <wastrel> cvd-pr: apt-get install mail-notification
[06:10] <gr1ff1n> anyone knows how to make a card reader works, if I mount it, the laptop crashes ? pls
[06:10] <cvd-pr> wastrel, ok let me check
[06:11] <kevineamigh> I hear sound but not music
[06:11] <kevineamigh> just static
[06:11] <kevineamigh> but it is coming through my headset
[06:12] <ere4si> hmmm
[06:12] <GG2> on windows .exe is executable file .. what's executable file on linux?
[06:12] <hydrogen> most don't have an extension
[06:12] <ryugaka> deb is pretty close isn't it?
[06:13] <hydrogen> though .sh, .rb, .pl, .py ... all of those usually are executable
[06:13] <hellmet> My system just beeped without reason.
[06:13] <hellmet> Is it bad?
[06:13] <wastrel> deb is a package format, not executable
[06:13] <ere4si> GG2: any file can be executable if it is written to be
[06:13] <ryugaka> ah alright.
[06:13] <kevineamigh> kevineamigh@kevineamigh-desktop:~$ aplay -c 1 /home/kevineamigh/Desktop/Matchbox20-Unwell.MP3
[06:13] <kevineamigh> Playing raw data '/home/kevineamigh/Desktop/Matchbox20-Unwell.MP3' : Unsigned 8 bit, Rate 8000 Hz, Mono
[06:13] <wastrel> GG2: file extensions are voluntary not required on linux
[06:14] <kevineamigh> that is what is my terminal after I ran that command
[06:14] <wastrel> and traditionally binaries don't have any extension at all.
[06:14] <ere4si> kevineamigh: it is playing - just not well through the headset
[06:14] <kdorf> If I installed flash player in firefox and have mp3 codecs installed, will flash player be able to play mp3s? I can't seem to do it in mine.
[06:14] <GG2> so if I do g++ -O3 binarytrees.cpp -o binarytrees.o .. am I getting executable file?
[06:14] <hydrogen> yes
[06:15] <wastrel> GG2:  run the file command to see what a file is.   file binarytrees.o
[06:15] <ere4si> kevineamigh: sorry - I have reached the end of my knowledge on sound issues... :)
[06:15] <hydrogen> or if ls --color=auto file shows it as green..
[06:15] <hydrogen> its executable
[06:15] <hydrogen> :)
[06:16] <kevineamigh> yeah well thanks I don't know what they did with 8.04 but I think it has something to do with them changing from alsa to pulse audio
[06:16] <wastrel> that's just the file permissions
[06:16] <drivetrax> You ever use Upstart?
[06:16] <GG2> bash: binarytrees.o: command not found
[06:17] <drivetrax> What to use to schedule a recurring event
[06:17] <wastrel> GG2: "file binarytrees.o"
[06:17] <hydrogen> wastrel: right, and if a file has +x it's executable...
[06:17] <hydrogen> and therefore runnable
[06:17] <kneeki> Has anyone found the solution for fixing the graphics issues with nVidia & Ubuntu 8.04 LTS?
[06:17] <bullgard4> What is the reason that top and GNOME system monitor designate the process /usr/bin/X as 'Xorg'?
[06:17] <wastrel> hydrogen: yes try to run an object file
[06:17] <hydrogen> GG2: to run the file you need to prepend ./ as its not in your path
[06:17] <hydrogen> wastrel: we've already established that the extension doesn't matter
[06:18] <GG2> binarytrees.o: ELF 64-bit LSB executable, x86-64, version 1 (SYSV), for GNU/Linux 2.6.8, dynamically linked (uses shared libs), not stripped
[06:18] <hydrogen> tadaa
[06:18] <wastrel> hydrogen: not all binaries are executable
[06:18] <wastrel> s
[06:18] <mortal1> hello, if I encrypt a partition using the alternate cd, and then do a clean install of ubuntu (retaining the encrypted partition) will ubuntu be able to recognize that I have an encrypted partition and be able to use it?
[06:18] <GG2> how do i run it though
[06:18] <hydrogen> wastrel: correct
[06:18] <hydrogen> GG2: ./binarytrees.o
[06:19] <wastrel> it's misnamed, object files should get .o , not executables
[06:19] <hydrogen> wastrel: sure, but _the extension doesn't matter_
[06:19] <kevineamigh> is there anyone else that has any knowledge of getting usb headsets to work for every program in 8.04
[06:20] <hydrogen> and making assumptions based off of it is bad thing to do #0 in the world of linux
[06:20] <GG2> yes that worked
[06:20] <wastrel> meh in the general case i'm right
[06:20] <GG2> what's ./
[06:20] <wastrel> best practices
[06:20] <mortal1> Just wondering if anyone has done an install of ubuntu and had it successfully use a pre-exsisting encrypted partition that was created with the same version of ubuntu?
[06:20] <hydrogen> wastrel: the current directory
[06:20] <hydrogen> err
[06:20] <hydrogen> that was to GG2
[06:20] <adam7> Is there a way to change where the apt-get lock file lives? (I don't want it in /var/cache/apt/archives/lock, something like /var/cache/apt/lock would be awesome)
[06:20] <hydrogen> sorry :)
[06:20] <FloodBot2> hydrogen: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:20] <Bidget> does anyone know if there is a limit to the number of things you can download with firefox simaltaneously?
[06:20] <GG2> I need to change my IP to 192.168
[06:20] <hydrogen> GG2: your current directory is rarely in the path the shell looks for executables..
[06:21] <GG2> I need to change my IP to <IP_ADDRESS>
[06:21] <hydrogen> GG2: so you need to give it the path to the executable
[06:21] <GG2> I tried it via System/Adminstration
[06:21] <GG2> but when I choose static IP, it won't connect to internet
[06:22] <GG2> it only works when free roaming is selected
[06:22] <warriorforgod> I am trying to install timidity on hardy 64 bit and get the following error.  Any suggestions?  ALSA lib pcm_dmix.c:874:(snd_pcm_dmix_open) unable to open slave ...fail!
[06:23] <hydrogen> sounds like another failure of pulseaudio..
[06:23] <GG2> Any suggestions/links on how to setup static IP?
[06:23] <harris> wahahahahahaa
[06:23] <patifa> GG2: Turn off roaming mode
[06:24] <GG2> I ttried turning off roaming mode and entering static IP
[06:24] <GG2> it won't connect to network/router then
[06:24] <hellmet> My system just beeped without reason.. Is it a reason to worry? I've had my Gmail hacked recently, so I'm a bit skeptical..
[06:24] <patifa> You'll need to enter the correct everything in there, including DNS, default gateway, submask
[06:24] <GG2> There was no option to enter DNS
[06:24] <snask> how do i use my wireless card as a router?
[06:25] <moromole> BAN MY IRANIAN TERRORIST IP
[06:25] <GG2> it only gave IP, default gateway and subnet mask
[06:25] <patifa> hellmet: Hard to tell from just that.  Are you sure you didn't just click somewhere wrong?    Flash mp3 players don't work for me :(
[06:28] <hydrogen> c: I'm sure it does
[06:28] <adam7> hydrogen, just until the ops show up
[06:28] <harris> moromole is quite good......
[06:28] <harris> heheheeee
[06:28] <moromole> LAST TIME YOU BANNED MY IP ONLY COZ I SAID "damn canon retards?
[06:28] <harris> do you want some bombs....
[06:28] <moromole> ?
[06:28] <adam7> !language | moromole
[06:28] <moromole> ?
[06:28] <moromole> "
[06:28] <FloodBot2> moromole: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:28] <moromole> NOW EAT THIS
[06:28] <Bodsda> moromole: issues like this in #ubuntu-ops plz
[06:29] <harris> moromole: I like ice cream
[06:29] <[Lowkey]> My webcam has a built in microphone, I just got the webcam to work but I cant get the mic to work. Can anyone help me?
[06:29] <hydrogen> okay, thats enough troll food for one night
[06:29] <moromole> PROPHET MUHAMMAD SUck GOAT PENIS
[06:29] <hydrogen> let him be :)
[06:29] <Bodsda> !ops
[06:29] <kdorf> Is there any way I can get my flash plugin in firefox to be able to play mp3s? Flash mp3 players don't work for me :(
[06:29] <moromole> BAN MY IRANIAN IP
[06:29] <moromole> I'M A TERRORIST B-)
[06:29] <hydrogen> Bodsda: if you look up you can see that thats already been used twice.. the ops are apparently asleep
[06:29] <harris> is moromole a BOT?
[06:29] <patifa> [Lowkey]: Right click the speaker icon and open the FULL volume control.  Make sure the mic for it isn't muted.
[06:30] <hydrogen> harris: nope
[06:30] <[Lowkey]> did that :(
[06:30] <[Lowkey]> thanks though
[06:30] <Bodsda> hydrogen: ok,.il go in personally ty ,.lol
[06:30] <harris> how the heck.... he can't be kick?
[06:30] <moromole> hydrogen: I TOLD YOU TO <GO FUck YO MAMA
[06:30] <bullgard4> What is the reason that top and GNOME system monitor designate the process /usr/bin/X as 'Xorg'?
[06:30] <hydrogen> harris: theres no ops around, so no.
[06:30] <cgentry72> is there a way to download videos from sites other than youtube, like yahoo etc
[06:30] <harris> i hate him
[06:30] <kevineamigh> yeah the default gateway and the subnet mask should match the current settings.  Also if you have a router then you'll have to most likely set up a virtual server on the website for your router.  Like for example my IP ends in .1 but my static ip is .137 so I had to go on the website for my router and set up a virtual server so it would recognize my static ip
[06:31] <harris> hehehehehehe
[06:31] <cgentry72> i already download youtube-dl but it only download youtube videos
[06:31] <moromole> hydrogen: YO MAMA SO UGLY WHEN SHE GOES TO THE ZOO MAGILLA GORIllA GETS A HARDON
[06:31] <ere4si> bullgard4: X is the server built by xorg
[06:31] <patifa> kdorf: Let me check something.
[06:31] <moromole> hydrogen: YO MAMA SO UGLY WHEN SHE GOES TO THE ZOO MAGILLA GORIllA GETS A BONER
[06:31] <adam7> I think the freenode ops should be able to assist us...
[06:31] <kdorf> patifa: thanks.
[06:31] <hydrogen> adam7: I don't believe he's breaking network rules..
[06:31] <hydrogen> unfortunatly
[06:31] <wastrel> he is
[06:32] <moromole> hydrogen: YO MAMA SO UGLY WHEN SHE GOES TO THE ZOO MAGILLA GORIllA GETS AN ERECTION
[06:32] <bullgard4> ere4si: I know this. But this fact cannot be made resposible for changing an identifier.
[06:32] <adam7> hydrogen, is racism against freenode rules?
[06:32] <patifa> [Lowkey]: Open the prefs in that volume control and open up the mic select and try switching it to other mics
[06:32] <Bodsda> adam7: yes
[06:32] <moromole> adam7: no its not
[06:32] <ere4si> bullgard4: ok
[06:32] <jtmonz> what was racist?
[06:32] <[Lowkey]> patifa: I did that, I went to Select Devices and chose USB camera, turned it up all the way and unmuted it..
[06:32] <cgentry72> is there a way to download videos from sites other than youtube, like yahoo etc
[06:32] <moromole> I'M A RETARD IRANIAN SAND NIGGER
[06:32] <cgentry72> i already download youtube-dl but it only download youtube videos
[06:32] <bullgard4> jtmonz: Stop it.
[06:33] <moromole> BAN MY SAND NIGGER IP
[06:33] <D1V0U> DIVOU O/////////// KKKKKKKK
[06:33] <ere4si> !ot | moromole
[06:33] <patifa> Bidget: A large number of simultaneous connections.    It is too early for a reliable operation.
[06:36] <nosa-J> AHMADINEJAD,  qht rhw lNFUfw>?
[06:36] <AHMADINEJAD> monkeybritches: YO MAMA SO FAT WHEN SHE GOES TO THE ZOO, MAGILLA GORILLA GETS A HARDON
[06:36] <bullgard4> wastrel: Yes.
[06:36] <RyanPrior> !ops
[06:36] <nosa-J> AHMADINEJAD, qht rhw lNFfw?
[06:36] <cgentry72> Bodsda, wow, that was so easy thanks man
[06:37] <patifa> ops are seriously sleepy
[06:37] <ere4si> AHMADINEJAD: your spelling needs work
[06:37] <hydrogen> thats like the tenth time...
[06:37] <k20a> i am having flash problems since switching from 32 bit to 64 do i have any options?
[06:37] <sektor> from one of the tutorials i got instructions to download mwimport.sh and then do chmod mwimport.sh in terminal, however chmod mwimport.sh returns chmod: missing operand after `mwimport.sh'
[06:37] <sektor> anyone ?
[06:37] <Bodsda> cgentry72: no probs
[06:37] <k20a> !anyone
[06:37] <Mynk>  /msg nickserv link mynk trustno1
[06:37] <wastrel> bullgard4: are you sure it's not /usr/bin/Xorg that's running
[06:37] <patifa> k20a: Few.  I think I've seen a solution to install 32-bit firefox and then it's flash plugin.
[06:37] <TOPSECRET> ubuntu 8.04 is loading vesa instead of ati for my firegl 9000... how to fix the problem?
[06:37] <Lardarse> simone: ask in #kubuntu-kde4 - they are miore liekly to know there
[06:37] <Bodsda> k20a: make sure the flashnonfree package is installed
[06:37] <k20a> thanks patifa
[06:37] <AHMADINEJAD> ere4si: no it doesn't, coz my mother tongue is Persian
[06:37] <bladinho> D1V0U
[06:38] <bladinho> biba
[06:38] <D1V0U> k
[06:38] <D1V0U> corno
[06:38] <adam7> k20a, if you did a fresh install, the 64bit flash plugin should install by going to youtube and clicking the "Additional plugins" button in firefox
[06:38] <D1V0U> :D
[06:38] <spenser> Hi, I'm having an issue installing hardy.  The live cd boots but fails to initialize hal, because hal is not initialized I cannot run ubiquity.  Are there any work arounds, I see there is a proposed package for hal in the proposed repo.
[06:38] <AHMADINEJAD> monkeybritches: YO MAMA SO FAT WHEN SHE GOES TO THE ZOO, MAGILLA GORILLA GETS A HARD ON
[06:38] <Bodsda> TOPSECRET: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg   then choose drive
[06:38] <bladinho> !netsplit
[06:38] <D1V0U> [bladinho]: cade?
[06:38] <spenser> !hardybugs
[06:38] <bullgard4> wastrel: I am speaking about /usr/bin/X (full stop)
[06:38] <spenser> !bugs
[06:39] <adam7> !msgthebot | spenser
[06:39] <TOPSECRET> Bodsda: choose drive?
[06:39] <sektor> from one of the tutorials i got instructions to download mwimport.sh and then do chmod mwimport.sh in terminal, however chmod mwimport.sh returns chmod: missing operand after `mwimport.sh'
[06:39] <Bodsda> TOPSECRET: choose driver
[06:39] <TOPSECRET> Bodsda: that command does not allow you to choose a driver in 8.04
[06:39] <Bodsda> sektor: chmod 777 ./mwiport.sh
[06:39] <AHMADINEJAD> PROPHET MUHAMMAD SUCKS DICK
[06:39] <wastrel> 777 really?
[06:39] <Jordan_U> !ops
[06:39] <Bodsda> TOPSECRET: really?
[06:40] <lumgwada> hi, is it possible a laptop using  a lower wattage power pack (70 instead of 90) could mess up a partition attempt?  (ubuntus iso partitioner that is) cheers
[06:40] <[Lowkey]> lowkey
[06:40] <Bodsda> Jordan_U: they have been called many times m8 they all asleep
[06:40] <unop> sektor, chmod +x mwimport.sh
[06:40] <[Lowkey]> thats me.
[06:40] <TOPSECRET> Bodsda, yes, it was a bad decision if you ask me
[06:40] <Bodsda> lumgwada: only if machine died half way through
[06:40] <patifa> lumgwada: power failure during partitioning could be very bad
[06:40] <Bodsda> TOPSECRET: true -- not sure then im afraid
[06:40] <Nox_> hey anyone know why xchat wont send a file?
[06:40] <Nox_> it just sits at 0%
[06:40] <Bodsda> Nox_: its never worked afaik
[06:40] <adam7> !offtopic | Nox_
[06:41] <Lardarse> Nox_: ask in offtopic and i;ll answer there
[06:41] <AHMADINEJAD> PROPHET MUHAMMAD SUCKS ALLIGATOR DICK
[06:41] <patifa> kdorf: It's possible you don't have restricted extras.  But it's more likely your sound system isn't working that great :S
[06:41] <lumgwada> Bodsda: patifa yeah fortunately the disk was ok (after a long windows scandisk)
[06:41] <ethan961> !language
[06:41] <Bodsda> lumgwada: cool
[06:41] <ere4si> AHMADINEJAD: at least be original please
[06:41] <Bodsda> !ops
[06:41] <kindofabuzz> yeah don't say muhammad in here =)
[06:41] <Nox_> im there
[06:41] <adam7> ethan961, don't bother, there isn't any point :)
[06:41] <iltechie> quoting line from #suse
 this is my first time using opensuse and its pretty nice so far ... even picked up my usb ethernet where ubuntu failed to
[06:41] <kdorf> patifa: It seems I have intermittent problems with flash, as now youtube isn't working that great either.
[06:41] <hydrogen> !stopbeingrepetitve andpagingtheopseverythreesecondswhentheyobviouslyarenothere
[06:42] <maw> AHMADINEJAD: http://<IP_ADDRESS>/
[06:42] <AHMADINEJAD> PROPHET MUHAMMAD SUCKS ALLIGATOR DICK
[06:42] <maw> your webserver?
[06:42] <kdorf> patifa: But I switched back to ALSA because Pulse was giving me so many problems, so I would think it would work better
[06:42] <hydrogen> ubottu: don't worry, I never made that mistake!
[06:42] <kdorf> I didn't have such problems in gutsy
[06:42] <patifa> go elky_work
[06:42] <iltechie> so trolled here!!!!
[06:42] <adam7> well, that got one...
[06:42] <iltechie> no ops around ?
[06:42] <Bodsda> ops sorted it
[06:43] <maw> AHMADINEJAD has NFS port open
[06:43] <ethan961> hahahahha
[06:43] <unop> offtopic
[06:43] <Bodsda> back to business guys
[06:43] <maw> AHMADINEJAD also has some older php applications open to the web that are vulnerable to sql injection
[06:43] <maw> have fun...
[06:43] <patifa> maw: It's probably not his/her ports anyways.
[06:43] <Bodsda> !ot
[06:43] <bullgard4> What is the reason that top and GNOME system monitor designate the process /usr/bin/X as 'Xorg'?
[06:43] <iltechie> 1300 here ? tons fo idling
[06:43] <hydrogen> maw: thats likely one of the other 1331 people who clicked the link that you spammed in here..
[06:44] <Bodsda> iltechie: bout 1200 idling
[06:44] <spenser> I'm having a hal error that will not let me install anyone know a workaround
[06:44] <maw> that was the IP he was connected from
[06:44] <Bodsda> spenser: try googling the esact error message
[06:44] <tigga> what is this??
[06:44] <TOPSECRET> ubuntu 8.04 is loading "vesa" instead of "ati" for my firegl 9000... how to fix the problem?
[06:44] <iltechie> outtahere
[06:44] <unop> maw, no one cares about a spammer, really -- stay on topic.
[06:44] <hellmet> My system just beeped without reason.. Is it a reason to worry? I've had my Gmail hacked recently, so I'm a bit skeptical..
[06:45] <Bodsda> TOPSECRET: google "How to change video driver ubuntu hardy"
[06:45] <tigga> ahh
[06:45] <tigga> is this a ral chat room?
[06:45] <sektor> how can i edit .sh ?
[06:45] <tigga> real*
[06:45] <Wallgod> hi.. i installed eclipse and then later installed easyeclipse. I want to get rid of th earlier eclise but synaptic only selects eclipse... not its dependencies.. how can i remove the dependencies as well? thanks in advance
[06:45] <Bodsda> hellmet: shouldnt do that but nothing serious justa beep
[06:45] <ere4si> !topic | tigga
[06:45] <patifa> tigga: For Ubuntu, yes.  Did you have a question?
[06:45] <Lardarse> sektor: vi, emacs, gedit, nano--- take your pick
[06:46] <AHMADITROLL> PROPHET MUHAMMAD SUCKS DICK
[06:46] <wm_eddie> Wallgod: apt-get autoremove
[06:46] <Bodsda> !ops
[06:46] <tigga> ah no not really.. i was just lloking at stuff.. and i clicked at this.. thanx.. bye
[06:46] <Lardarse> hellmet: anything on the consoles (crtl+alt+F1 - F6) ?
[06:46] <ethan961> lol again :P
[06:46] <Bodsda> !ops | AHMADITROLL
[06:46] <hydrogen> now the freenode ops can be invoked for ban evasion :)
[06:46] <[Lowkey]> My webcam has a built in microphone, I just got the webcam to work but I cant get the mic to work.  Was just watching a movie
[06:47] <cellwind929> I was wondering what would be the easiest way to fix the issues of poor connections on RT 2500 wifi cards. There is a launchpad bug, but it just says install seamonkey drivers, which is vague. Is there a good guide or way to fix the RT 2500 bug in 8.04
[06:47] <sektor> how can i display line numbers in nano ?
[06:47] <Wallgod> wm_eddie, but how wud it know which one... i havent used either of them
[06:47] <AHMADITROLL> ebaad: YOUR PROPHET IS A PEDOPHILE
[06:47] <Lardarse> hellmet: sure it isn't in the movie?
[06:47] <hellmet> Bodsda:  If its not serious, then I'm happy.. thanks
[06:47] <ere4si> AHMADITROLL: pls practise your spelling
[06:47] <k20a> i just put 32 bit firefox on my 64 bit to use some plugins but now the 32 bit won't resolve any address
[06:47] <fluxy> Is global installation of firefox extensions supported in ubuntu?
[06:47] <ebaad> I think u should restrain your self from comments like this
[06:47] <hellmet> Lardarse: Mighty sure
[06:47] <adam7> I think that was the wrong person...
[06:47] <MaxHR> Hello, Can anyone recommend a decent gui file renamer for linux?
[06:47] <RyanPrior> ere4si: Please don't feed our trolls. =D
[06:48] <Lardarse> hellmet: then i have no idea
[06:48] <ebaad> we r here to discuss technology not religion
[06:48] <stdin> !feedthetroll
[06:48] <RyanPrior> MaxHR: Nautilus?
[06:48] <bobbie4> ooops, I gotta go to bed now. bye-bye
[06:48] <wastrel> bullgard4: the name of the process is Xorg  in /proc/<pid>/status
[06:48] <hellmet> Lardarse: okay.. thanks
[06:48] <patifa> ebaad: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/sudo/+bug/32906  It's a bug scheduled to be fixed...
[06:48] <wm_eddie> Wallgod: It looks for packages that were installed via dependencies.  It doesn't need to know what package you are talking about.
[06:48] <Bodsda> sektor: check settings
[06:48] <ebaad> oh ok but how can i run any command as root then
[06:49] <Bodsda> !sudo | ebaad
[06:49] <elky_work> msg Bodsda sorry, this is what happens when one tries to multitask bans :(
[06:49] <Wallgod> wm_eddie, for safety shud i put apt-get autoremove eclipse?
[06:49] <patifa> Bodsda: Did you read before taht?
[06:49] <Bodsda> elky_work: no prob thanks for the message though
[06:49] <Bodsda> patifa: no sorry
[06:49] <elky_work> yeah... which i messed up. gah!
[06:49] <ebaad> yes but sudo gives error saying unable to resolve host.........
[06:49] <patifa> ebaad can't sudo due to bug 32906
[06:49] <wm_eddie> Wallgod: autoremove doesn't break anything.  And I'm not sure it takes a package name argument.
[06:50] <Bodsda> elky_work: cheers for op'ing and such lol  :~)
[06:50] <Lardarse> patifa: boot into single user?
[06:50] <cellwind929> I was wondering what would be the easiest way to fix the issues of poor connections on RT 2500 wifi cards. There is a launchpad bug, but it just says install seamonkey drivers, which is vague. Is there a good guide or way to fix the RT 2500 bug in 8.04
[06:50] <ebaad> i'm looking at the bug report
[06:50] <Wallgod> wm_eddie, ok.. thanks for ur time
[06:50] <Wallgod> wm_eddie, and patience
[06:50] <Bodsda> patifa: log in as root to resolve?
[06:51] <Lardarse> Bodsda: effectively the same
[06:51] <patifa> looks like it, Bodsda
[06:51] <Bodsda> Lardarse: what do you mean?
[06:51] <grovers> hello - I was wondering if the restricted formats wiki page is up to date for hardy, specifically because I'm having problems with occasional (~every 30 seconds) audio/video skipping in DVD playback
[06:51] <Lardarse> Bodsda: in the grub menu, select the recovery mode option
[06:51] <patifa> <IP_ADDRESS> computer-name <-- Needs to be added to /etc/hosts
[06:52] <Bodsda> Lardarse: what are you telling me for?
[06:52] <patifa> it's not Bodsda's problem, it's ebaad's problem.
[06:52] <Bodsda> lol
[06:52] <Lardarse> (known as single user because it is, and the word "single" is added to the options passed to the kernel)
[06:52] <bullgard4> wastrel: This is correct. --  But this deviates from normal usage: Command's name and process's name are identical.
[06:52] <Lardarse> Bodsda: because you asked me?
[06:52] <patifa> ebaad you still there?
[06:52] <Bodsda> Lardarse: i didnt understand why u said to me 'effectivly the same'
[06:52] <amirman84> does anybody know whats going on when i hibernate and it says that pat entry 2 is already configured?
[06:53] <ebaad> yes
[06:53] <ebaad> I was just reading thru the bug report
[06:53] <Lardarse> Bodsda: because root is disabled normally, unless you are in snigle user mode (which logs you in as root)
[06:53] <bullgard4> elky_work: Thank you.
[06:53] <ebaad> it is confusing
[06:53] <wm_eddie> Aptitude is freezing on libmono-cecil0.5-cil  And now it's in a limbo where it can't be removed or installed,  How can I force dpkg to remove it completely?
[06:53] <Bodsda> Lardarse: single user does not log you in as root
[06:53] <ebaad> i wanted to check the host file and hostname file
[06:53] <TOPSECRET> how can i use the feisty version of a package with gutsy
[06:54] <Lardarse> Bodsda: hmm... it gives you root acces, though, doens't it?
[06:54] <[Lowkey]> My webcam has a built in microphone, I just got the webcam to work but I cant get the mic to work. Can anyone help me?
[06:54] <Bodsda> Lardarse: only if you have set and know a root passwd
[06:54] <patifa> ebaad: It looks like you need to add <IP_ADDRESS> your-computer-name into /etc/hosts
[06:54] <wm_eddie> TOPSECRET: try installing it, if it's compatible it'll install, else it's not possible to install it.
[06:54] <Jordan_U> Bodsda, No, single user mode logs you in as root, password or not
[06:54] <ebaad> but how can I edit the file if cant login as sudo
[06:54] <adam7> Jordan_U, that is only if you haven't set a root password, IIRC
[06:54] <student> how to format flash disk in ubuntu?
[06:54] <amirman84> !hibernate
[06:55] <amirman84> !hibernation
[06:55] <Bodsda> Jordan_U: that would be extremely insecure and then why does it ask me for a username and passwd?
[06:55] <ethan961> !suspend
[06:55] <Bodsda> !msgthebot
[06:55] <wuxia> how do I tell ubuntu to  download + install all the dependencies required to build package X?
[06:55] <wm_eddie> [Lowkey]: That depends on the webcam.  For my quickcam for notebooks pro it works out of the box.
[06:55] <Bodsda> wuxia: by downloading package 'x'
[06:55] <stdin> ebaad: you can start in recovery mode and use the command line text editor "nano"
[06:55] <wuxia> Bodsda: no, there's some apt-get build source command
[06:55] <ethan961> wuxia: apt-get build-dep package
[06:56] <wuxia> ethan961: thank you
[06:56] <wm_eddie> wuxia: apt-get build-dep packagename
[06:56] <ebaad> ok I will restart in rescue mode and try to edit the file
[06:56] <amirman84> can anybody tell me what a pat entry is? i hate talking to bots
[06:56] <ebaad> thanks for all the help
[06:56] <n2diy> student: check out the mlabel command?
[06:56] <Lardarse> ebaad: good luck
[06:56] <Jordan_U> Bodsda, If you have physical access to the machine there is no security provided by passwords without data encryption any way, the only way to boot in single user mode is with physical access
[06:56] <ebaad> and please do something about the wierd people and their comments
[06:56] <wastrel> bullgard4: i suggest you email the maintainer for the xorg package about your question.
[06:56] <student> N2DIY HOW?
[06:56] <wastrel> bullgard4: you're not likely to find an answer in a user support channel :]
[06:56] <patifa> ebaad: Can you access the terminal?
[06:57] <Bodsda> Jordan_U: erm -- so your saying i can choose recovery from grub and be root?
[06:57] <ebaad> they should be reported and expelled from the room
[06:57] <n2diy> man mlabel, and also man mtools
[06:57] <Jordan_U> Bodsda, Yes
[06:57] <ebaad> yes i can access the terminal
[06:57] <Bodsda> Jordan_U: 5 mins -- testing theory
[06:57] <ebaad> is there a better way
[06:57] <Jordan_U> Bodsda, You can also boot a LiveCD and be root
[06:57] <kneeki> Any ideas how I add nvidia drivers back to my restricted drivers listing?
[06:57] <student> wHAT IS THE COMMAND FOR FORMATTING FLASH DRIVE
[06:58] <wm_eddie> student: don't screem
[06:58] <ere4si> !caps
[06:58] <patifa> ebaad: absolutely confirm that typing 'sudo nano' does it not let you enter your password due to the hostname problem.
[06:58] <stdin> !format
[06:58] <[Lowkey]> wm_eddie: It's a Microsoft LifeCam VX-1000
[06:58] <patifa> ...that it does not let you...
[06:58] <student> sorry
[06:58] <ere4si> np
[06:58] <Bodsda> Jordan_U: u can become root in a terminal
[06:58] <ebaad> yes i just checked and it is not allowing any action with sudo
[06:58] <Jordan_U> Bodsda, Or do many other things with physical access, preventing logging in in single user mode would just give a false sense of security, *NIX people tend do be against things like that :)
[06:59] <patifa> ebaad: Let's try a few other oddball methods, even though none of them should work, apparently they worked for the bug testers at some point.
[06:59] <ebaad> oh ok
[06:59] <Bodsda> Jordan_U: ur right theres an option to drop to root shell well thanks for the info - ;~)
[06:59] <ebaad> give me the lead
[06:59] <ebaad> i will try them
[07:00] <patifa> ebaad: start aptitude from the terminal.  It recognises mouse input, use that to go to Actions -> Become root
[07:00] <ebaad> i try to use cat and edit it that way but didnt work
[07:00] <Bodsda> ebaad: use nano
[07:00] <legend2440> student: http://linuxwave.blogspot.com/2007/06/how-to-format-your-flash-drive.html
[07:00] <k20a> hello, i installed 32 bit firefox but it won't resolve any address i am on 64 and the 64 firefox works fine
[07:01] <n2diy> student: mtools
[07:01] <Bodsda> k20a: why use 32 FF then?
[07:01] <cvd-pr> ubuntu dont have the new version of mail-notification that suport windos live mail
[07:01] <k20a> bodsda cause my 64 plugins aren't working
[07:01] <cvd-pr>  mail-notification 5
[07:01] <ebaad> how can i start nano from here
[07:01] <Bodsda> k20a: arent working is a big statement
[07:01] <patifa> ebaad: any luck from aptitude?
[07:02] <patifa> nano won't matter, it doesn't have the permissions any more then rest of the termainal.
[07:02] <ebaad> i was able to start aptitude and became root
[07:02] <patifa> oh
[07:02] <patifa> :D
[07:02] <patifa> the command is 'nano'
[07:02] <ebaad> but how can I start nano from here
[07:02] <Bodsda> sudo nano /path/to/file     ebaad
[07:02] <bullgard4> wastrel: I will consider e-mailing the maintainer. --  Thank you for your thorough comments.
[07:03] <patifa> Bodsda: he's already root, there's no sudo :|
[07:03] <Bodsda> patifa: ok,.lol,.no harm
[07:03] <patifa> actually
[07:03] <patifa> you're in graphical mode, aren't you ebaad?
[07:03] <speps> hey guys is there a way to manage applets on gnome-panel?
[07:03] <k20a> bodsda my adobe flash plugin (which only comes 32 bit) is not working
[07:04] <ebaad> yes
[07:04] <mrpockets> man
[07:04] <mrpockets> my shits freezing.
[07:04] <patifa> Enter the command: gedit &
[07:04] <k20a> mrpockets perhaps you have legacy hardware and would benefit from xubuntu?
[07:04] <Bodsda> k20a: use 64 bit FF go to youtube and try and watch a vid, FF will have a little menu at the top appear syaing install plugins, click it, then choose the 2nd one (flash) install and reload oage
[07:05] <ebaad> yes i am but, what ever I'm typing it starts listing packages
[07:05] <patifa> O_o
[07:05] <patifa> ebaad are you running kubuntu?
[07:05] <student> my pc has a debian login how do i go back to its default login
[07:05] <Bodsda> ebaad: press   ctrl+shift+t
[07:05] <ebaad> no ubuntu
[07:05] <k20a> bodsda i am not a noob the fact is my 64 bit firefox won't fully use the 32 bit flash plugin right
[07:05] <zcat[1]> k20a: mine does!
[07:06] <k20a> mine does for videos but not for cams
[07:06] <Bodsda> k20a: well a fresh install here and its running fine so perhaps try providing more info then 'its not working'
[07:06] <ebaad> yes i did ctrl+shift+t and it opened up another term window
[07:06] <k20a> just did
[07:06] <ebaad> and I tried sudo nano in that and it gave me the same error
[07:06] <patifa> ebaad: You still have the root console open, right?
[07:06] <k20a> i get error when i try to login to any webcam through flash
[07:07] <Bodsda> !elaborate
[07:07] <poopuser> hello.hey i got problem(probably like most of ppl here) when i press alt + number i get square to instead for example hush sign.how to fix it?; (
[07:07] <ebaad> yes the one I hit become root
[07:07] <patifa> k we'll just use that, then
[07:07] <wastrel> poopuser: you mean shift+number?
[07:08] <k20a> bodsda my flash gets system error when i try to login to a flash based webcam
[07:08] <poopuser> omg there is somehing wrong with my brain.thank u bye
[07:08] <patifa> ebaad: just enter the command nano      All the commands are with ^ being Ctrl
[07:09] <Bodsda> k20a: ok what error?
[07:09] <ebaad> yes id did
[07:09] <k20a> it exactly says system error
[07:09] <Bodsda> patifa: graphically gedit would be easier for him
[07:09] <zcat[1]> k20a: can you provide an exmple, eg URL that fails?
[07:09] <kevineamigh> ok still trying to get my sound to work properly, alsa works great with my usb headset but ubuntu 8.04 uses pulse audio by default which does not work. There are many things I like about 8.04, but is there any way that I can set alsa as the default for sound instead of pulse audio
[07:09] <k20a> yes any webcam on the net that is flash based it fails
[07:09] <patifa> ebaad: one sec
[07:09] <zcat[1]> I don't know any flash based webcams on the net
[07:09] <ebaad> i tried vi and it also opened the file with read only permission
[07:10] <patifa> read only?
[07:10] <patifa> really?
[07:10] <Bodsda> kevineamigh: system-->pref-->sound
[07:10] <navetz> can anyone here help me get dual screen extended mode working
[07:10] <patifa> k well do you know the name of your computer, ebaad?
[07:10] <Bodsda> ebaad: sudo gedit /path/to/file
[07:10] <ebaad> yes
[07:10] <zcat[1]> I was watching our axis webcams a few days ago, no issue at all, but I din't think they use flash
[07:10] <k20a> zcat[1] ifriends..
[07:10] <patifa> Bodsda: sudo is busted for ebaad, I told you this before
[07:10] <n2diy> !twinview | navetz
[07:11] <Lardarse> patifa: might be worth having a look at  ls -l /etc/hosts ?
[07:11] <patifa> yeah
[07:11] <ebaad> it is owned by root
[07:11] <Lardarse> it's the 10 characters on the left that i'm interested
[07:11] <ebaad> and if i try anything vi, gedit, nedit or nano it only opens file in readonly state
[07:11] <navetz> n2diy: i am trying to use xinerama because I have inted card. I have followed the steps but I get two blank screens when I try rebooting X
[07:12] <patifa> anyways, ebaad, just to confirm, do you know the name of your computer?  Not sure if your yes answer was to me or Bodsda.
[07:12] <Bodsda> patifa: ahh,.,. i forget quickly sorry dude, will keep the trap shut
[07:12] <k20a> man even swiftweasel 32 bit didn't work
[07:12] <Lardarse> ebaad: looks something like -rw-r--r--
[07:12] <patifa> (It should be -rw-r--r--)
[07:12] <Rabiddog> damn ubuntu and its dmraid bugs
[07:12] <kevineamigh> Bodsda: I already changed all of the preferences in sound to alsa, and most things work through my headset just fine now, however there must be another setting because the sounds the system makes when it logs in and out still only come through the speakers and also enemy territory only sends sound through the speakers
[07:12] <ebaad> yes i know the name and when I list the contents of the hosts file there was the workgroup added to the name
[07:13] <ebaad> may be that is why it cannot recognize the name
[07:13] <n2diy> navetz: hmm, just guessing, but try booting with the nodma, nopci, etc... options?
[07:13] <ebaad> or resolve the name
[07:13] <patifa> ebaad: sounds like it
[07:13] <ebaad> so is there a way besied rebooting
[07:13] <ebaad> besides
[07:13] <zcat[1]> wow, what a shitty site.
[07:13] <Bodsda> kevineamigh: for ET sound prefs will be ingame settings prob -- not sure bout system sound sorry
[07:14] <n2diy> navetz: restart gdm?
[07:14] <darkcrab> im having trouble with my trashcan, when I click empty the icon doesnt change or when I put a file in the trash, the icon doesnt change, until later, its like delayed. anybody heard of that?
[07:14] <navetz> n2diy: what is nodma and nopci?
[07:14] <navetz> n2diy: i have rebooting
[07:14] <Bodsda> navetz: they are boot parameters/options
[07:14] <patifa> ok ebaad, looking at the bug reports and whatnot
[07:14] <navetz> n2diy: also I am using KDE, I dunno if that matters.
[07:14] <n2diy> navetz: nodma is no direct memory access, I forget what no pci is?
[07:15] <AbstortedMinds> my mouse wont work if any key is being held down, except shift, tab and a cntl and a few others, does anyone know of a fix? google has failed me
[07:15] <patifa> 'hostname the-right-hostname' should fix things
[07:15] <navetz> n2diy: oh ok, well I tried it with the default settings in that guide
[07:15] <Gokee2> How do i get kde4?  I installed kde4 but still have a lot of kde3.5.x things around like konqueror.  I also don`t think anyhting has changed with my taskbar.
[07:15] <n2diy> navetz: yes that would matter, you have to restarte kde instead of gdm.
[07:15] <Bodsda> lol
[07:15] <darkcrab> you didnt uninstall kde 3.5 first did you gokee
[07:16] <vlad> hey ppl can somebody help me i need a ftp client with ssh or tsl encryption  im a linux noob
[07:16] <Gokee2> No...  Do I need to?  I was hoping to have the old apps around in case I wanted them for anything....
[07:16] <navetz> n2diy: rebooting my computer restarts kdm right?
[07:16] <wastrel> vlad: gftp should work
[07:16] <darkcrab> if you want kde 3.5 to be gone, yes.
[07:16] <navetz> n2diy: also do I restart faster by just doing /etc/init.d/kdm restart ?
[07:16] <kevineamigh> Bodsda: unfortunately et doesn't have a setting in game. Some other programs I had a issue with before did have a setting in the program, but not et. Also, since the system sounds don't work then there has to be another sound related issue with 8.04 that is causing the problem. I know I read they changed from alsa to pulse audio for 8.04, but I didn't think they would make it harder to use headsets in the new version then
[07:16] <kevineamigh>  it was in the old one.  It just is kind of studpid
[07:16] <n2diy> navetz: you might find better answers in #kubuntu, they play with kde?
[07:16] <Gokee2> Hmm "Package kde is not installed"
[07:16] <vlad> wastrel:  hey man i just installed gftp but it says i got not ssl activated or smth can u help me?
[07:17] <navetz> n2diy: ah ok, I have asked there as well but no respone
[07:17] <ebaad> its ok I will try the reboot in the secure mode thing and see if it fixes the issue
[07:17] <wastrel> vlad: i don't use it sorry.  i use sftp on the command line
[07:17] <ebaad> thanks for the help
[07:17] <Gokee2> So what package sould I remove for kde 3.5?
[07:17] <ebaad> and the time
[07:17] <ethan961> !kde | Gokee2
[07:17] <patifa> ebaad: You'll need to make the edits anyways in the recovery console
[07:17] <vlad> thx man
[07:17] <maek> test
[07:17] <darkcrab> im having trouble with my trashcan, when I click empty the icon doesnt change or when I put a file in the trash, the icon doesnt change, until later, its like delayed. anybody heard of that?
[07:17] <stdin> Gokee2: when you install kde4 you have to choose to login to it, there'll be another entry in the login manager
[07:17] <kevineamigh> I even tried to uninstall pulse audio but it I do it says that it has to uninstall the ubuntu desktop
[07:17] <ebaad> yes i will try that way
[07:17] <Bodsda> AbstortedMinds: a quick google was all thats needed -- http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=417089
[07:17] <patifa> ebaad: Did the hostname command not work?
[07:18] <Bodsda> kevineamigh: sorry not sure what to suggest
[07:18] <n2diy> navetz: Ok, when the Xwindow splash screen comes up for you to log in, is there an options menu to select from?
[07:18] <ebaad> it cannot make edits in the hosts file only in hostname file
[07:18] <Gokee2> stdin, I told it to use kdm-4 as the default splash screen
[07:18] <patifa> odd
[07:18] <ebaad> no problem
[07:18] <ebaad> thnx anyway
[07:18] <patifa> well try the recovery console, then.  Shouldn't be any wierd write permissions there
[07:18] <ebaad> see you soon
[07:18] <Bodsda> patifa: can u not use chowner or chmod to give write access to the file?@
[07:18] <stdin> Gokee2: who told you that? it doesn't matter which you use, kdm/kdm-kde4/gdm
[07:19] <navetz> n2diy: yes, the probelm is when I configure my xorg to use dual screen, I don't get to a splash screen
[07:20] <n2diy> navetz: hmmm, sorry, I'm lost, I don't run dual screens.
[07:20] <navetz> n2diy: alright, thanks :)
[07:20] <n2diy> navetz: GL
[07:21] <Gokee2> I logged out and choose kde4...  Wow does it ever look awful!
[07:22] <patifa> vlad: you might want to try "gftp-gtk", a package you cn install from the synaptic package manager.
[07:22] <amirman84> gokee2: you can make KDE look ok by a lot of customization
[07:22] <patifa> It's a 'classic' FTP client with SSH support
[07:22] <DanaG> Argh, I can't bookmark anything in Firefox!
[07:22] <DanaG> What gives?
[07:22] <DanaG> I go to "organize" and I get three completely empty panes.
[07:22] <amirman84> gokee2: that's why a lot of people prefer KDE, more customization, but i still use GNOME :) it does look better
[07:23] <amirman84> gokee2: but KDE4 lacks in customization options so it sucks
[07:23] <DanaG> ARGH!
[07:23] <qman__> Hi everyone, I had a question regarding screen brightness adjustment on my dell laptop in ubuntu 8.04. When I press the fn+ keys to adjust the screen brightness, it does adjust, but instead of just going one notch, it adjusts about 60% of the bar in that direction. Is there any way to adjust how much it changes with each keypress?
[07:24] <n2diy> DanaG: who owns the Bookmark file?
[07:24] <end-user> GNOME vs KDE: I find I prefer whichever one I'm not using at the time ;)
[07:24] <ackbahr> Hello! Can I clean a faulty Hardy upgrade from the CD I just downloaded and toasted?
[07:24] <DanaG> It's on fat32, so there's no such thing as permissions.
[07:24] <kevineamigh> ok well since my problem with my headset does not have a current solution by the looks of it since I've spent like a week trying to find one, I have a rather simple question to ask that probably has a easy solution
[07:24] <patifa> ackbahr: how 'toasted' did you get?
[07:24] <Gokee2> Hmm I did not like gnome when I tried it.  I mostly use xfce, but kde4 is really REALLY bad!  I think something must be set wrong
[07:24] <DanaG> drwxrwxrwx  2 root shadow     4096 2008-05-01 22:56 bookmarkbackups
[07:24] <DanaG> stuff like that.
[07:24] <kevineamigh> how do I get number lock to be on by default on startup
[07:24] <Bodsda> ackbahr: did u put it in a toaster?
[07:25] <patifa> I'd like to know that one, too.  My numlock light turns on it, but numlock isn't actually active.
[07:25] <n2diy> DanaG: ok root owns it, who are you?
[07:25] <DanaG> It's set to 777 permissions, though.
[07:25] <kevineamigh> my password has numbers in it along with letters so it is much more convient if number lock is on
[07:25] <ackbahr> patifa: I backed it in a oven, actually (parmigiano, olive oil on a slice of brown bread)
[07:25] <Bodsda> ackbahr: sounds nice
[07:26] <ackbahr> patifa: But my laptop is more or less in the same state as if I had put it in a toaster, thanks to this Hardy upgrade!
[07:26] <n2diy> DanaG: ok on the 777, bad practice. And it is called bookmarkbackups?
[07:26] <DanaG> That's just one of the folders there; all files in the profile are there.
[07:26] <ackbahr> Bodsda: More seriously, is there something else to do than wipe everything and start over?
[07:26] <OzFalcon> Ackbar!
[07:26] <DanaG> I mean, all are 777.
[07:27] <DanaG> Oh yeah, and some pages are bookmarkable, but some are not.
[07:27] <patifa> ackbahr: Still need to be more specific.   Does GRUB start?  Can you make it to flash screen?  Does it power on?
[07:27] <ackbahr> OzFalcon: AckbaHr
[07:27] <Bodsda> ackbahr: you want a clean install -- tar your /home then put it on a seperate hd then reinstall, other then that, not really
[07:27] <OzFalcon> ackbahr, ;-)
[07:27] <patifa> err, that's splash screen
[07:27] <n2diy> DanaG: use my nick in your replies, so I can pull them out of the noise!
[07:27] <navetz> how can I find out what intel graphics card I have?
[07:28] <qman__> navetz: lspci
[07:28] <navetz> i think i have i810 but i am not sure
[07:28] <n2diy> navetz: lshw
[07:28] <arvind_khadri> navetz, lspci
[07:28] <kevineamigh> I know it's hard to press the number lock button everytime I boot up to put in my password, but I've kind of got used to not having to do it over the years
[07:28] <navetz> thanks
[07:28] <ackbahr> patifa: This is what went wrong : dpkg is screwed up and would only install things again after I wiped its memory, and my graphical settings are completely off.
[07:28] <OzFalcon> ackbahr, Couldn't figure out why I couldn't change nick...... Then I used Ackbar (Like Frak). ANd your right there!