[12:17] <nagyv> skollie: could you please check this paste? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/30049/
[12:18] <Biovore> that looks like its trying to tunnel over ssh...
[12:20] <skollie> nagyv: checking..
[12:20] <nassim> hi
[12:21] <nassim> ya qqn ?
[12:21] <skollie> nagyv: are the ports open?
[12:21] <nagyv> !fr
[12:21] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[12:21] <nassim> no no
[12:21] <nassim> it's ok
[12:22] <nagyv> there is  a router, and my brother forwarded them to his own computer
[12:22] <nassim> where r u from nagyv ?
[12:22] <nagyv> I don't know if the connecion refused comes from the router or the server
[12:22] <skollie> nagyv: is ssh running?
[12:22] <zarba> hey!
[12:22] <vzduch> nagyv: you're good, I wouldn't have recognized that as French ;)
[12:22] <zarba> how R U
[12:23] <zarba> ?
[12:23] <nassim> fine thnx
[12:23] <nassim> and u zabra ?
[12:23] <zarba> fine thx
[12:23] <nassim> zarba *
[12:23] <zarba> @nassim what?
[12:23] <nassim> where r u    from ?
[12:23] <zarba> france
[12:23] <zarba> and U
[12:23] <zarba> ?
[12:23] <nassim> i'm from algeria
[12:24] <zarba> okay
[12:24] <nassim> new in linux :p
[12:24] <skollie> !offtopic | nassim
[12:24] <ubotu> nassim: #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[12:24] <skollie> !offtopic | zarba
[12:24] <ubotu> zarba: #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[12:24] <nagyv> vzduch: I was living there for an year, and I know that they think it's fancy, am I right nassim? :)
[12:25] <nassim> we can't talk on this chanel right ?
[12:25] <skollie> nassim: you can if it's related to ubuntu support
[12:25] <nassim> ok i have a question then he he he
[12:25] <nick86> ciao a tutti!!!
[12:26] <skollie> go ahead nassim
[12:26] <nassim> my microphone don't record any voice
[12:26] <nassim> i can hear myself but nothing on skype
[12:26] <vzduch> nassim: make sure it's not muted (KMix/alsamixer)
[12:26] <nick86> qualche ita???
[12:26] <nassim> no it's not
[12:26] <nagyv> skollie: ssh is running
[12:27] <vzduch> !it | nick86
[12:27] <ubotu> nick86: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[12:27] <nick86> ok grazie 1000
[12:27] <vzduch> nassim: in my experience there is a switch in KMix that says 'Mix', you need to activate it to be able to send anything
[12:28] <nassim> and in skype option there: it asks me to choose the input device " i have many choices," i tried them all but noone seem to work fine
[12:28] <skollie> nagyv: you are also using ports 5599 and 5900. Are they open and being forwarded?
[12:29] <nagyv> skollie: I tried ssh directly, connection is refused
[12:30] <skollie> nagyv: what OS is your brother running?
[12:30] <nassim> ok i'll see
[12:31] <jabba> hello
[12:31] <jabba> i just switched from dbian to kubuntu
[12:31] <jabba> *debian
[12:32] <vzduch> jabba the *buntu-hutt :D
[12:32] <nagyv> ubuntu dapper drake
[12:32] <jabba> in debian i had my own self-baked kernel, but now it'd try to stick to a delivered kernel
[12:32] <nagyv> skollie: ^^^
[12:32] <jabba> problem is, that my dm-crypt partition is now missing sth.
[12:33] <skollie> nagyv: does he have a firewall sitting behind the router i.e. on his machine and is it allowing ssh connections?
[12:33] <nagyv> skollie: he just installed ubuntu
[12:34] <nagyv> skollie: no firewall, but I think he has problems with setting up the router correctly :(
[12:34] <skollie> nagyv: the ssh 'connection refused' error usually means the server is not running or the port is not accessible
[12:35] <nagyv> skollie: I know, I would like to find out where is this problem coming from, is it from the router or the server?
[12:35] <jabba> ok, forget it
[12:35] <jabba> cryptsetup works
[12:35] <jabba> :)
[12:35] <jabba> must have mistyped my password
[12:35] <skollie> nagyv: could be either - if the port is being correctly forwarded, most likely the server
[12:36] <nagyv> should he able to ssh to himself? to check if it's running
[12:37] <skollie> nagyv: yes - ssh localhost
[12:38] <skollie> nagyv: but even if he can connect to ssh locally, does not mean it will accept remote connections
[12:41] <nagyv> skollie: yes, I know this. and it can not be checked from his own computer?
[12:42] <skollie> nagyv: yes - the 'ssh localhost' command
[12:42] <nagyv> :)
[12:43] <gan|y|med> hi
[12:44] <waylandbill> nagyv: you can check locally with local host. If it's not accepting remote connections, you can run sshd from a command line manually with -d (or more -d's for more info) and at some debug level it will tell why a remote connection was not allowed assuming the server can be accessed.
[12:45] <luca> hi everyone
[12:45] <luca> does anyone here have a Dell laptop with HDA intel board?
[12:45] <evilmm> is there a reason i cant scan a mov file in mplayer?
[12:46] <miles> evilmm - there is no codec for quicktime on linux
[12:46] <skollie> nagyv: are you relaying to your brother? Would it not be easier if he joins the channel?
[12:47] <evilmm> well, it runs
[12:47] <nagyv> skollie: hmm, not a bad idea!
[12:47] <evilmm> i just cant scan /ff/rew
[12:47] <miles> wait, .mov = quicktime format right?
[12:47] <evilmm> yes
[12:47] <miles> word...i always thought that didnt work on linux
[12:47] <BluesKaj> !quicktime
[12:47] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[12:47] <gan|y|med>  i got a problem with video playback and beryl/xgl (fglrx drivers). in normal mode (without xgl) video playback takes around 30% cpu usage. with xgl it is ca 70%. the kaffeine gui is flickering and resizing (in general) is very slow
[12:48] <gan|y|med> any ideas why?
[12:49] <Biovore> gan|y|med: sounds like you have an ATI card :-P
[12:49] <vzduch> gan|y|med: perhaps because Beryl in itself is very processor-time-consuming? o0
[12:49] <Biovore> ATI's drivers do not support X-Render.. so the video has to be software rendered.... it sucks..
[12:50] <gan|y|med> vzduch: this only happens when resizing or watching movies. otherwise xgl is surprisingly modest
[12:51] <BluesKaj> miles, http://linux.softpedia.com/get/Programming/Libraries/Quicktime-for-Linux-257.shtml
[12:51] <gan|y|med> Biovore: yes, that's what i said. time that the amd collaboration finally pays off (if ever)
[12:52] <evilmm> im just wodering why i cant scan
[12:52] <gan|y|med> ok, i am not getting any input in ubuntu-effects, and my googling hasn't been that successful, yet. so has anybody got any ideas/related problems?
[12:52] <miles> wow, i always wondered why they wouldnt release the codecs for linux
[12:56] <gan|y|med> can it be that it is simply a bad time (clockwise) for asking in the channel?
[12:56] <chaotic> hey whats the most popular app for newsgroups in linux
[12:56] <login_> hello , do you know where the kernel irc char is?
[12:57] <BluesKaj> well, gan|y|med , running beryl in X and video simultaneously really taxes some ATI cards and the corresponding cpu dump ...I'm not surprised
[12:57] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> chaotic: I use Kontact with KNode installed. SeaMonkey Suite and Thunderbird are also good choices.
[12:58] <vzduch> chaotic: nn, tin, slrn, Pan, KNode (and more).. choose one ;)
[12:58] <chaotic> i use it to download does it use  nzbs
[12:58] <gan|y|med> BluesKaj: any idea, why?
[12:59] <BluesKaj> not enuff cache on the graphics card for one and the linux drivers aren't exactly super efficient
[01:00] <login_>  I have been compiling kernel 2.6.22 and have run across a dilemna. My compiled kernel weighs in at about 400-500 mb while the ubuntu kernel weighs about 100-200 mb. How did you guys get the kernel to be so thin?While i was uncompressing the kernel i saw it uncompress folders such as sparc so is it possible that my kernel installed all architectures? if so , how can i make it only use 1386?
[01:01] <SlimeyPete> 100-200mb????
[01:01] <SlimeyPete> try 6 to 7 megabytes
[01:01] <miles> uh
[01:01] <gan|y|med> BluesKaj: ok, the efficiency of those drivers is out of question. or better, their non-efficiency. but not enough cache?
[01:01] <BluesKaj> gan|y|med,  a lot of ati owners grieve over the poor linux support so they buy nvidia or intel cards graphics cards for their linux boxes
[01:02] <gan|y|med> i know that. but i am using a notebook, so switching is not an option
[01:02] <gan|y|med> it only appears in fullscreen. window mode is fine
[01:02] <waylandbill> more stuff compiled into the kernel means a bigger footprint for one thing. Everything and the kitchen sink doesn't need to be installed into it. :-)
[01:03] <login_> could you suggest what i should uninstall? to closely match ubuntus kernel?
[01:03] <waylandbill> I don't do anything amazing on my laptop with a ati 200m, so it doesn't bother me. The desktop has an nvidia 7900 though. What a difference.
[01:04] <underdog5004> does tar automatically follow symlinks?
[01:04] <Biovore> I think it does..
[01:04] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> waylandbill: I have that same card.
[01:04] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> The ati one
[01:04] <waylandbill> login_: you could examine the source of the kernel package. Should give you an idea of its configuration.
[01:04] <miles> yea i got a 7900 gt, it runs beryl pretty smooth
[01:05] <waylandbill> WhtWolfTeraDyne: the 200m isn't that great. The 7900 is rather fast for a card under 200 dollars (when I purchased it)
[01:06] <Sanne> login_: your ubuntu kernel should have a file /boot/config-$(uname -r) where you can check what's enabled.
[01:06] <waylandbill> beryl runs on the 200m, but it's rather choppy at best with a painful installation.
[01:06] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> waylandbill: Kinda hard to install a new card into an eMachines m2352 laptop, though. ;)
[01:06] <TooEarly> i just bought an Acer 19inch Widescreen Monitor and I have an ATI 9200 graphics card with the radeon drivers. When I plugged it in (dvi port) it flickered every little movement i made. what could be the problem?
[01:06] <waylandbill> WhtWolfTeraDyne: yeah same with my compaq laptop. You get what you get. :-)
[01:07] <Biovore> TooEarly: sounds like an electrical problem..
[01:07] <TooEarly> Biovore: i changed the driver to the vesa driver, and it works fine. except i can't get the resolution over 1280x800
[01:08] <chaotic> how do i run pl files
[01:08] <Biovore> perl <filename.pl>
[01:08] <waylandbill> chaotic: perl
[01:08] <chaotic> ah
[01:08] <Biovore> there text files..
[01:09] <waylandbill> it should have the magic number shabang and the path to perl as the first line of the file when viewed in a text editor, then you can just execute it in a shell and it will run it with perl.
[01:09] <waylandbill> #!/usr/bin/perl is usually specified.
[01:10] <TooEarly> Biovore: any other advice?
[01:10] <trakinas> hey guys!
[01:10] <trakinas> how do I download a package not from feisty faw?
[01:10] <TooEarly> sudo aptitude install
[01:10] <Biovore> trakinas: is it a deb?
[01:10] <chaotic> what are the perl libs called
[01:10] <trakinas> Biovore: oficial one. linux-headers
[01:10] <Biovore> perl modules?
[01:11] <Biovore> trakinas: linux-headers is in the ubuntu repos..
[01:11] <waylandbill> chaotic: if you are curious about how a shell interprets script files, check this out: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shebang_%28Unix%29
[01:14] <miles> if you guys dont like windows, i reccomend linux as an alternative
[01:14] <trakinas> Biovore: hence the question
[01:14] <Biovore> trakinas: sudo apt-get install linux-headers
[01:14] <trakinas> Biovore: i need 2.6.17
[01:14] <trakinas> which isnt on feisty repos.
[01:15] <Biovore> running dapper?
[01:15] <trakinas> Biovore: no. feisty faw.
[01:15] <Biovore> the linux-headers for a target kernel..
[01:15] <trakinas> i need it so my dvd drive will work.
[01:15] <Biovore> if you need headers for 2.6.17 you have to run 2.6.17
[01:15] <CS5> Can someone please help me mount my NTFS volume
[01:15] <Biovore> !libdvdread
[01:15] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about libdvdread - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:15] <trakinas> Biovore: i know.
[01:15] <trakinas> Biovore: no.
[01:15] <miles> !ntfs
[01:15] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[01:15] <trakinas> Biovore: DVD DATA
[01:16] <miles> !bill gates
[01:16] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about bill gates - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:16] <miles> !folder
[01:16] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about folder - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:16] <Biovore> well, basicly.. you can't..  not with out a hell of alot of work..
[01:17] <Biovore> trakinas: Is it a one of those packet written DVD's your tring to read..
[01:18] <trakinas> Biovore: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/118276
[01:19] <Biovore> is it a movie DVD?
[01:19] <Biovore> Buffer I/O error on device sr0 <-- generaly means the media is toast..
[01:19] <Biovore> unless its a movie DVD.. then its just encrypted
[01:20] <trakinas> Biovore: it is not
[01:20] <trakinas> belive me
[01:20] <Biovore> then you disk has an error in it..
[01:20] <trakinas> ANY media DOES NOT WORK on UBUNTU. but DOES WORK on gentoo
[01:20] <trakinas> Biovore: it does not.
[01:20] <trakinas> Biovore: i can acess the disk on gentoo
[01:20] <trakinas> no problem
[01:20] <trakinas> ANY DISK
[01:21] <Biovore> well its not a standard DVD FS..  must be some packet written format..
[01:21] <trakinas> but i cant on ubuntu. never could. which makes my dvd drive useless.
[01:21] <Biovore> I have no problems with DVD on linux/window/solaris/BSD
[01:21] <trakinas> Biovore: how can you explain it working on gentoo with kernel 2.6.17 and not on ubuntu with a newer kernel?
[01:21] <Biovore> disto shouldn't mater..
[01:22] <trakinas> Biovore: I knoe!
[01:22] <trakinas> *know
[01:22] <Biovore> 2.6.17 on gentoo has all the same stuff in 2.6.20
[01:22] <trakinas> soooooo
[01:22] <Biovore> the difference might be in what modules are loaded
[01:22] <trakinas> how cant it not work?
[01:22] <trakinas> see... my cd-rom drive works quite well.
[01:22] <trakinas> but not my dvd drive.
[01:22] <trakinas> on ubuntu i mean.
[01:22] <Biovore> gento might load a module for packet written CD's that on you ubuntu setup you assume ISO9660
[01:22] <trakinas> on gentoo, both works
[01:23] <chaotic> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/30057/
[01:23] <chaotic> i ge that error what should i do
[01:23] <trakinas> Biovore: how can i fix that, then?
[01:23] <Biovore> trakinas: I can tell you if you can tell me what FS format is being used on the DVD
[01:23] <chaotic> it    doesnt recognize perl
[01:23] <trakinas> Biovore: on the disk/
[01:23] <Biovore> chaotic: you need to install the perl modules..
[01:23] <trakinas> how can I check that?
[01:24] <Biovore> trakinas: like CD are ISO9660
[01:24] <chaotic> what  are they called
[01:24] <Biovore> if you still have gentoo.. have it mount the disk and they type mount to see what it mounted it as.
[01:25] <trakinas> Biovore: /dev/scd0 on /media/Disco de dados do GnomeBaker type iso9660
[01:25] <trakinas> Biovore: it does mount the media. but ubuntu CANT access it,
[01:25] <trakinas> Biovore: any operation results on a I/O error.
[01:25] <Biovore> pop open a shell..
[01:25] <trakinas> coping or opening the file
[01:26] <trakinas> Biovore: that's the result for mount.
[01:26] <Biovore> trakinas: you try mounting using the command line?
[01:26] <trakinas> Biovore: yes.
[01:26] <trakinas> but even if KDE auto-mounts it i get the same i/o error
[01:26] <Biovore> cdrom a scsi cdrom it looks
[01:26] <trakinas> Biovore: what? that is my dvd-drive.
[01:26] <trakinas> and i isnt scsi.
[01:27] <Biovore> scd0 is scsi
[01:27] <trakinas> i dont know why the heck it is scsi in ubuntu
[01:27] <Biovore> this in a laptop?
[01:27] <trakinas> no
[01:27] <Biovore> so a desktop cdrom then?
[01:27] <trakinas> Biovore: desktop DVD-ROM
[01:27] <Biovore> IDE parallel cable interface..
[01:27] <trakinas> yes
[01:27] <waylandbill> chaotic: look at the script and find the uses keyword. Running a perl script, you should really know perl first... otherwise how do you know what it is going to do to your system?
[01:27] <Biovore> hmm
[01:28] <Biovore> try a dmesg | grep cdrom
[01:28] <trakinas> Biovore: nothing
[01:28] <Biovore> or scroll though dmesg looking for where you cdrom should be..  /dev/hdb /dev/hdc or something like that..
[01:29] <trakinas> Biovore: every device here is mounted as sc*
[01:29] <waylandbill> chaotic:  I could write a script to delete all your files starting with the letter W from your home directory. You can assume everything is safe just because the author claims it is.
[01:29] <waylandbill> s/can/can't/
[01:30] <salomon_> hi
[01:30] <Biovore> trakinas: try mounted it as the UDF filesystem.
[01:31] <login_> ?
[01:31] <Biovore> mount /dev/scd0 -t UDF /media/cdrom  <or something like that>
[01:31] <chaotic> i know i got it from softpedia  its a newsreader program
[01:31] <trakinas> Biovore: [   18.977600]  scsi 1:0:0:0: CD-ROM            PIONEER  DVD-RW  DVR-112D 1.09 PQ: 0 ANSI: 5
[01:31] <chaotic> softpedia is trustworthy
[01:31] <darkkish> hey guys
[01:31] <Biovore> trakinas: might have something to do with the ide-scsi for cdrom burning.
[01:31] <zarba> hey darkkish
[01:32] <darkkish> um, i know this isn't the right channel at all
[01:32] <zarba> R U jew?
[01:32] <darkkish> but nobody is in the others, my mouse/keyboard isn't working in dsl
[01:32] <darkkish> on livecd
[01:32] <trakinas> Biovore: what you mean?
[01:32] <Biovore> to make cdrom burning work, the emulated cdroms as scsi
[01:33] <zarba> are some jews here
[01:33] <zarba> ?
[01:33] <Schuenemann> why you want to know if there are jews here?
[01:33] <erov> what does it matter
[01:33] <Dragnslcr> zarba- no, we banned them all
[01:33] <Darkrift> erm
[01:33] <Biovore> darkkish: no clue.. probably something to do with your keyboard controller..  some of them are goofy..
[01:33] <Darkrift> and i get yelled at for saying a** in here
[01:33] <darkkish> Biovore it works fine until after the bootscreen
[01:34] <zarba> @Dragnslcr : good so i'll stay here!
[01:34] <darkkish> atleast the keyboard does, i have no way of testing the mouse after the bootscreen
[01:34] <Biovore> yup.. sounds about right..
[01:34] <trakinas> why ubuntu uses scsi emularion?
[01:34] <Darkrift> zarba, we would rather you leave
[01:34] <Biovore> everyone uses it.. redhat/suse/gentoo/debian/ubuntu (otheres)
[01:34] <zarba> why?
[01:34] <Biovore> bbl
[01:34] <zarba> i'm a good aryan!
[01:34] <Schuenemann> bah
[01:34] <zarba> and U?
[01:34] <Schuenemann> you're a moron
[01:34] <trakinas> Biovore: so why it does not works on ubuntu?
[01:34] <erov> what a joke
[01:34] <Darkrift> because you have low intelligence
[01:35] <Schuenemann> !ops
[01:35] <ubotu> Help!  Maybe he was just really, really drunk
[01:36] <Darkrift> nah
[01:36] <erov> they told mel gibson it didnt matter ;)
[01:36] <Darkrift> maybe he was really really stupid
[01:37] <ShockValue> man, klibido /almost/ does what i want.. there's some really annoying things though...
[01:37] <Dragnslcr> That is a pretty unfortunate name, isn't it
[01:38] <ShockValue> like, i resize a column, but if you minimize and then maximize, it resets the column width
[01:38] <ShockValue> well, it probably appropriate in about 75% of the case >:)
[01:39] <Schuenemann> is there a tool or tutorial for configuring GRUB interface? Like using a GUI
[01:46] <draik> Hello all
[01:48] <BluesKaj> Schuenemann, why not DL and burn SupergrubDisk..it's a bootqable live cd that does restoration for windows and linux bootloaders
[01:49] <darkkish> how do i make a dir in mount?
[01:49] <Schuenemann> hmm... actually I'd like to change the boot window
[01:49] <darkkish> in /mnt*
[01:49] <Schuenemann> darkkish, you have to be root
[01:49] <Schuenemann> I mean, use sudo
[01:49] <darkkish> oh of course
[01:52] <darkkish> how do i mount a file to my new directory?
[01:52] <darkkish> lol sorry, i've been away from linux for too long
[01:52] <darkkish> i tried mount /dev/hda1 /mnt/disk1
[01:55] <ardchoille> I'm surprised. There is a nice list of 3d games here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_free_first-person_shooters
[01:55] <ardchoille> And many of them are in the repos
[01:57] <darkkish> Schuenemann can you help?
[01:59] <Sanne> darkkish: what's the error?
[02:00] <darkkish> i forgot how to mount files
[02:00] <darkkish> and DSL has no man
[02:00] <darkkish> i tried sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt/disk1
[02:00] <darkkish> i already have /mnt/disk1 created.
[02:00] <darkkish> i just need to mount sda1 or some dev, i am not honestly sure which dev i want mounted
[02:00] <darkkish> i want it to be readonly
[02:01] <Sanne> what happens when you do: darkkish: sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt/disk1
[02:02] <trakinas> Biovore: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/30058/ --> modules output
[02:03] <Sanne> darkkish: here's a mount manpage: http://linux.die.net/man/8/mount
[02:04] <dbarcena> hey, all, where is gnome ubuntu's support channel?
[02:04] <Sanne> dbarcena: #ubuntu
[02:04] <darkkish> couldn't someone just basically tell me how to mount something?
[02:04] <dbarcena> thanks
[02:04] <persen_> !subversion
[02:04] <ubotu> subversion is an open source application used for revision control. It is sometimes abbreviated to svn in reference to the name of its command line interface. Look here for a Subversion How To on Ubuntu: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Subversion
[02:05] <Sanne> darkkish: your command should be correct, and also check the link I pisted to the online man page
[02:05] <Sanne> haha s/pisted/posted
[02:05] <vzduch> pisted.. ll
[02:05] <trakinas> darkkish: it depends on.
[02:05] <trakinas> darkkish: http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/mounting.html
[02:05] <trakinas> have fun
[02:08] <darkkish> how do i tell what the name of the device is i'm trying to mount?
[02:08] <darkkish> i'm in live cd and i'm trying to mount my regular scsi harddrive
[02:10] <vzduch> darkkish: what filesystem?
[02:10] <darkkish> ntfs
[02:11] <vzduch> darkkish: mount -o defaults,ro -t ntfs /dev/sda /mnt/disk1
[02:12] <darkkish> vzduch I'm not sure /dev/sda is the device i want
[02:12] <vzduch> darkkish: make it /dev/sda1
[02:12] <vzduch> otherwise try sdb or so
[02:12] <darkkish> o_O okay
[02:13] <vzduch> but if it's your Winblows partition it should be sda1
[02:13] <wolferine> is there alot of issues with installing KDE on a Ubuntu system?
[02:13] <darkkish> vzduch when i type that it just lists the help menu
[02:13] <trakinas> wolferine: no.
[02:13] <darkkish> the very limeted one
[02:13] <vzduch> darkkish: what did you type?
[02:14] <darkkish> exactally what you told me to
[02:14] <darkkish> oh wait
[02:14] <darkkish> i forgot the space between ro and -t
[02:14] <darkkish> sorry
[02:14] <darkkish> it says
[02:14] <ubuntu> can somebody tell me what type of wireless card I have, I am just trying to find the windows inf files for it .. and i cant figure it out
[02:14] <wolferine> sorry, let me rephrase, is there uses while using KDE, when installed on a ubuntu box?
[02:14] <darkkish> mount: /dev/sda1 is not a valid block device
[02:14] <wolferine> s/uses/issues/
[02:14] <darkkish> i have a confession, I'm using Damn Small Linux right now
[02:15] <darkkish> but nobody in DSL is alive.
[02:15] <darkkish> and, it's mostly debian based..
[02:15] <darkkish> but i'm getting alot of damn small annoying errors.
[02:15] <Sanne> darkkish: you could list your partitions with: sudo fdisk -l
[02:15] <duanarchy> msg nickserv identify misfit69
[02:15] <duanarchy> oh shit
[02:15] <duanarchy> LOL
[02:16] <wolferine> nice
[02:16] <vzduch> hrhr
[02:16] <darkkish> Sanne nothing came up at all
[02:16] <duanarchy> :-P
[02:16] <wolferine> NEVER register when a channel is open
[02:16] <Sanne> darkkish: must be different in DSL then
[02:16] <vzduch> should I be mean? :D
[02:16] <trakinas> vzduch: heck yes! >=]
[02:17] <vzduch> hrhr
[02:17] <vzduch> wb duanarchy
[02:18] <Sanne> darkkish: did you use sudo (or the DSL equivalent)? If I just use it without, it also comes up with nothing.
[02:18] <vzduch> remember: after such accidents change your NickServ pwd IMMEDIATELY
[02:18] <poopfaceme> vzduch: i don't really care ;-) lol
[02:18] <nagyv> hello! I am helping my brother remotely with in his first Linux experience, and just realised that he installed edgy and I gave him a feisty sources.list file. I already started apt-get upgrade unfortunately. What could be the safest next step if I would like to avoid reinstalling?
[02:24] <persen_> "No apache MPM package installed" i get this message when i try to restart apache2
[02:25] <persen_> should i install all apache2-mpm packages? Its five and two of them states "transitional"
[02:26] <BluesKaj> nagyv, if he opens adept update , the update to edgy wizard may popup and he can run it to update to feisty with it ..I'm not totally sure that the wizard will actiuvate since his sources list already has the feisty repos
[02:27] <BluesKaj> !update | nagyv
[02:27] <ubotu> nagyv: See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft) to Kubuntu 7.04 (Feisty Fawn)
[02:28] <chaotic> what command do i use to delete something thru sudo
[02:28] <chaotic> need  rights
[02:29] <trakinas> chaotic: sudo rm
[02:29] <trakinas> and the rest of your parameters
[02:30] <BluesKaj> nagyv, he can always edit the sources list and change the "fesity" enties to edgy and then run the update in adept after doing the all important "sudo apt-get update" after he's finished editing and saving the sources list
[02:30] <chaotic> what about to move a folder for one place to another
[02:31] <chaotic> basically i need access to .wine folder
[02:31] <chaotic> to add maps to anarchy online
[02:33] <darkkish> so
[02:33] <darkkish> if i started linux with the peram noacpi
[02:33] <darkkish> would that cause problems mounting harddrives and such, if it was livecd
[02:34] <persen_> is there a way i can list all deamons handling network traffic?
[02:34] <persen_> that listens on a port
[02:34] <persen_> need to kill a daemon that uses a port, but cant find it.
[02:38] <trakinas> chaotic: same thing
[02:38] <trakinas> chaotic: with the command mv, insteed
[02:38] <trakinas> for example,
[02:39] <trakinas> sudo mv -rf /home/chaotic/.wine/path/to/anarchy /path/you/desire
[02:39] <Sanne> persen_: I think you can list those with netstat, I can't remember the correct options though. man netstat should tell you.
[02:40] <Matic`Makovec> Hey there. I was woundering where does Kopete save files you transfer?
[02:41] <trakinas> Matic`Makovec: whatever you say it yo.
[02:41] <trakinas> *to
[02:41] <Sanne> persen_: 'netstat -l' gives interesting info
[02:41] <Matic`Makovec> trakinas, what if I didn't say anything :X
[02:41] <Matic`Makovec> It has to have a default place, doesn't it?
[02:41] <trakinas> Matic`Makovec: it saved in the folder where it indicated when you were receiving the file.
[02:41] <trakinas> probably, your home folder
[02:41] <Matic`Makovec> I wish I'd remember that :)
[02:41] <Matic`Makovec> Thanks!
[02:46] <persen_> Sanne, Yep, but it doesnt say what daemon/program handles what port
[02:47] <Sanne> persen_: that's all I remember, for more info you would need to consult teh manpage, sorry.
[02:47] <persen_> anyways, trying to get subversion up, tried all night (3-4 hours) with no luck.
[02:47] <persen_>  the bots !subversion recipe isnt doing it
[02:49] <BluesKaj> persen, what about system services in system settings/advanced ..it doesn't show the port but will show whether not a daemon is running.
[02:49] <BluesKaj> whether or not
[02:49] <Darkrift> who here is good with the bcm43xx?
[02:50] <chaotic> is there anyway to overwrite folders
[02:50] <chaotic> in .wine
[02:50] <chaotic> folders
[02:52] <persen_> BluesKaj,  where do i find "system settings" ? in kcontrol
[02:52] <khaije1> i need something to make quick'n'dirty technical instruction/documentation in the style of a flowchart
[02:52] <khaije1> whats the "best" app for this?
[02:52] <BluesKaj> in the k-menu, persen
[02:53] <Sanne> persen_: in kcontrol it's in System Adminitration->System Services
[02:53] <persen_> found it
[02:53] <Sanne> :)
[02:54] <chaotic> this is basically what i need to do delete .wine/program files/funcom/ anarchy online/cd_image/gui/default and move from desktop cd_image to  .wine/c_drive/progam files/funcom/anarchy online
[02:54] <chaotic> how would i do that
[02:54] <BluesKaj> persen in kcontrol it's in system administration
[02:55] <persen_> hm, trying to start apache2 and get: Syntax error on line 56 of /etc/apache2/mods-enabled/dav_svn.conf:
[02:55] <persen_> Unknown DAV provider: syn
[02:55] <persen_> What is "syn" here? Subversion?
[02:55] <chaotic> can someone help pls
[02:56] <frost0> How Do I Install Flash And Java For Konqueror?
[02:57] <persen_> Flash worked like a charm for me (non amd 64)
[02:57] <K-Ryan> !flash
[02:57] <ubotu> To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[02:57] <K-Ryan> !java
[02:57] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre. Please don't use Adept to install Java if you are on Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) or earlier.
[02:57] <frost0> persen_, flash?
[02:58] <frost0> persen_. how?
[02:58] <trakinas> chaotic: first, remove the dir. you want to with "sudo rm -rf /the/path/ " (withou the quotes)
[02:58] <persen_> frost0, just pointing my konquerer to a page that uses flash makes the install routine popup.
[02:58] <trakinas> then, mv -rf /the/file/you/want/to/ /the/destiny/
[02:58] <trakinas> with sudo in front of mv if you need it
[02:59] <TooEarly> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=3025697#post3025697 -- can anyone help me this problem
[02:59] <frost0> persen_. what are you on (edgy, dapper, feisty)?
[02:59] <Sanne> chaotic: be very careful you don't mistype! rm doesn't ask if you're sure.
[02:59] <persen_> feisty
[03:00] <BluesKaj> frost0, use adept to install the flashplayer-non free and flashplugin-nonfree
[03:01] <chaotic> so id do sudo rm -rf /home/chaotic/.wine/drive_c/Program Files/Funcom/Anarchy Online/cd_image/gui/Default
[03:02] <persen_> just rm your whole mmorpg games while at it, just consumes time.
[03:02] <erov> hehe
[03:02] <Sanne> chaotic: there's a space in that path. I guess you need to enclose the path with quotes. and usually you won't need sudo for folders in you rhome dir.
[03:04] <BluesKaj> doesn't konq come with java already installed ?
[03:05] <frost0> BluesKaj, even in dapper?
[03:05] <BluesKaj> dunno about dapper frost0
[03:08] <BluesKaj> frost0, in feisty in konq/tools/HTML settings/java&javascript options are listed
[03:09] <trakinas> chaotic: yes
[03:09] <trakinas> chaotic: if it complains, "home/chaotic/.wine/drive_c/Program Files/Funcom/Anarchy Online/cd_image/gui/Default"
[03:13] <BluesKaj> frost0, in konq and most other browsers typing ' about:plugins ' in the addressbar will list the media codec plugins the browser is setup to use
[03:16] <frost0> anyone know how to install flash in dapper?
[03:17] <BluesKaj> wow, you didn't read anything did you frost0
[03:17] <HackSign> what is the X libraries ??
[03:17] <trakinas> !X
[03:17] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[03:18] <frost0> BluesKaj, sorry, i did about:plugins, didn't have it, tried konsole but it needs firefox to get the plugins off of
[03:18] <HackSign> when i installed a software
[03:18] <frost0> BluesKaj, i remember it being much simpler
[03:18] <frost0> BluesKaj, :)
[03:18] <trakinas> i have to go
[03:18] <trakinas> cheers all
[03:18] <HackSign> the output is :alsamixer
[03:18] <HackSign> sorry~
[03:19] <BluesKaj> konq will display it if you type it in the adress bar
[03:19] <HackSign> how can i download the x lib?
[03:19] <Fragility> I cant seem to remember the command for editing xorg...need to enable shm for a synaptics
[03:19] <Fragility> for some rason i generally have a hell of a time getting access to the xorg config
[03:19] <Fragility> *reason
[03:20] <BluesKaj> editing or reconfiguring Fragility?
[03:20] <HackSign> can u tell me the name if i want download it in console with the command of apt-get ?
[03:20] <Fragility> I just need to turn the shm on to be able to edit the synaptics touchpad setting
[03:21] <Fragility> I thought it was gedit but command is not found
[03:21] <HackSign> *.*
[03:22] <BluesKaj> Fragility, kdesu kate /etc/X11/xorg.conf , in the run command box
[03:23] <Fragility> its a blank file
[03:23] <Fragility> I have had that problem multiple times, it's really hard for me to access xorg, I dont know why
[03:23] <frost0> Fragility, X11 not x11 i did that earlier :0
[03:23] <Fragility> oh
[03:23] <Fragility> kk
[03:24] <Fragility> it says "failed to open device" on almost all of them
[03:24] <Fragility> then opens empty
[03:25] <BluesKaj> HackSign, xlib11-6
[03:25] <frost0> Fragility, sudo kwrite /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[03:25] <HackSign> tks BluesKaj :)
[03:25] <frost0> Fragility, copy and paste that
[03:25] <Darkrift> Fragility,  those "failed to open device" are beacuse some unused devices are in your config, you can ignore those
[03:26] <Darkrift> those errors arent actually causing any problems, just annoyance
[03:26] <BluesKaj> er HackSign libX11-6
[03:26] <Fragility> there are a lot of random things wrong with my computer that i cant figure out which may be why this isnt opening, but kwrite is empty also
[03:26] <HackSign> ... ok i'll try ~
[03:26] <BluesKaj> try kdesu kate
[03:26] <frost0> Fragility, yeah kate.
[03:26] <frost0> Fragility, beat me
[03:27] <Darkrift> open the text editor (as root) and then browse and find the file
[03:27] <frost0> BluesKaj, beat me :)
[03:27] <TooEarly> anyone know how to get a widescreen to not flicker because of the DDC
[03:27] <HackSign> BluesKaj
[03:28] <HackSign> i have installed the pkg already
[03:29] <Fragility> I finally got it open from one of the commands from earlier and and I dont know why, thank you
[03:31] <raylu> has anyone used mpd? my music sounds distorted
[03:34] <BluesKaj> raylu open kmix and bring the input and output slider ctrls down to 70% or so
[03:35] <raylu> eh...
[03:35] <BluesKaj> ppl crank them up as if that's gonna give more volume all it does is overload the sound card
[03:35] <raylu> no gui :P i suppose i have to dcop kmix
[03:35] <raylu> and i didn't even touch it yet...because i can't :P
[03:35] <frost0> BluesKaj, uh where is the sources.list file located?
[03:35] <raylu> wait a sec; i dont even have kde, lol
[03:35] <raylu> !sources.list
[03:35] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[03:35] <raylu> its /etc/apt, i think
[03:35] <frost0> k thx
[03:36] <raylu> what is kmix a frontend for?
[03:36] <BluesKaj> kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list
[03:37] <Darkrift> how do you change the size of icons on your desktop?
[03:37] <frost0> BluesKaj, thank you
[03:37] <raylu> in other words, how would i access the mixes if I didn't have kmix?
[03:37] <raylu> *mixers
[03:37] <Darkrift> ive seen screenshots with some icons large, and some really small
[03:37] <BluesKaj> alsa or whatever sound app you want o use in system settings/sound
[03:37] <raylu> Darkrift, try alt+f2 > kcontrol > search
[03:38] <Biovore> raylu: aumix is a command line mixer.. or there is alsamixer from the command line..
[03:38] <BluesKaj> alsamixer in the terminal
[03:39] <frost0> BluesKaj, What Is The Command To Install Flash From The Backports Via Terminal?
[03:39] <raylu> thanks, Biovore
[03:39] <yan_> what is procedural paradigm??
[03:39] <yan_> anybody..help me...
[03:39] <raylu> yan_,...why?
[03:40] <yan_> i just wanna tu know in more details
[03:40] <yan_> *to
[03:40] <BluesKaj> dunno frost0 , i used adept for the flashplayer-nonfree and the flashplugin-nonfree
[03:40] <raylu> how do I chmod a mounted drive? I mounted an ntfs partition with a gid, but the group access is 0
[03:40] <frost0> BluesKaj, i tried adept but i type flash and nothing pops up :(
[03:41] <raylu> yan_, procedural = "falling rock," as in not oo
[03:41] <BluesKaj> you can try sudo apt-get install flashplayer-nonfree && flashplugin-nonfree
[03:41] <raylu> frost0, sounds like you need to update your repositories
[03:42] <frost0> raylu, i added backports :(
[03:42] <BluesKaj> frost0, you need to add the repositories for flash
[03:42] <BluesKaj> !flash
[03:42] <ubotu> To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[03:43] <BluesKaj> frost0, after adding them did you save the file and then do a sudo apt-get update ?
[03:45] <frost0> BluesKaj, no :(
[03:45] <BluesKaj> ahh you must , otherwise the repos will fail to be added
[03:46] <yan_> %
[03:47] <Darkrift> im getting errors from X that say "Error - arsmessage"
[03:48] <Darkrift> "sound server fatal error: Error while initializing the sound driver. device: default cant be opened for playback (Operation not permitted)"
[03:48] <Darkrift> anyone know what i can do to stop these?
[03:48] <Darkrift> every time i close one, another pops up
[03:49] <BluesKaj> !cn
[03:49] <ubotu> For Ubuntu help in Chinese  #ubuntu-cn  #ubuntu-tw   #ubuntu-hk
[03:50] <frost0> BluesKaj, not working, but i found another way...i can download the package manually, and install it to /usr/lib/mozilla...so i created that directory but it says enter valid directory :(
[03:51] <frost0> BluesKaj, wow that totally makes no sense, must be tired :)
[03:52] <raylu> uid=value, gid=value and umask=value
[03:52] <raylu>     Set the file permission on the filesystem. The umask value is given in octal. By default, the files are owned by root and not readable by somebody else.
[03:52] <raylu> is there no gmask option?
[03:52] <BluesKaj> frost0, it will create it's own default directory , what is the pkg file extension?
[03:52] <frost0> frost0, i'm using the link you gave me with an alternate tutorial ...the package is tar.gz
[03:53] <frost0> frost0, the installer initializes but can not find that directory :(
[03:55] <BluesKaj> did you do a : tar -xzvf  filemane tar.gz then cd to the foldername and finmd the readme .. the install istructions will be in there...generally it will be a ./configure command at the filefoldername prompt
[03:56] <dcosson> does anyone know of a way to manually edit, like, the text positions in kicker's clock applet?  when it puts the text on more than 2 lines it is not vertically centred
[03:58] <frost0> BluesKaj, I installed flashplugin-nonfree now what?
[03:58] <frost0> BluesKaj, through adept
[03:58] <BluesKaj> ok good
[03:58] <BluesKaj> install the flashplayer-nonfree the same way
[03:59] <adminsd> ola
[04:00] <frost0> BluesKaj, all there is is flashplugin-nonfree...
[04:00] <adminsd_> ola
[04:00] <frost0> BluesKaj, is it possible that it downloaded the player also?
[04:00] <BluesKaj> yes
[04:02] <K-Ryan> Where's modules.conf ?
[04:02] <frost0> BluesKaj, can i restart and check somehow?
[04:02] <BluesKaj> frost0, do a , sudo apt-get install flashplayer-nonfree in the konsole
[04:03] <ShockValue> why is that when im not playing some kind of mmorpg, i end up thinking of good character names? :)
[04:03] <frost0> BluesKaj, did, nothing
[04:04] <K-Ryan> modules.conf anyone?
[04:04] <BluesKaj> K-Ryan, etc/modules
[04:04] <K-Ryan> BluesKaj: Thank you
[04:04] <Jahooty> anyone have problems with amarok freezing when it starts?
[04:04] <frost0> BluesKaj, can't find package it says
[04:05] <ShockValue> no, working ok for me.. Jahooty, sure its not just building your collection?
[04:05] <BluesKaj> !flash
[04:05] <ubotu> To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[04:05] <Jahooty> actually no, but it's totally unresponsive
[04:05] <Jahooty> and my collection is pretty small
[04:05] <Jahooty> although i did just rip a new cd
[04:05] <Jahooty> good thought tho, i'll just let it run then
[04:05] <ShockValue> there should be a couple log files in ~/.kde/share/apps/amarok
[04:06] <BluesKaj> click on pl, Jahooty
[04:06] <Jahooty> pl?
[04:06] <BluesKaj> in the player
[04:06] <Jahooty> the gui for amarok isn't loading, i get the outline but i'ts not filling in any details
[04:06] <ShockValue> how's he supposed to click it when its totally unresponsive?
[04:07] <raylu> so, can anyone help me mount an ntfs drive?
[04:07] <Jahooty> hmm
[04:08] <Jahooty> buy it dinner first raylu
[04:08] <Jahooty> sorry, couldn't resist
[04:08] <ShockValue> raylu: maybe...
[04:08] <Jahooty> if amarok is trying to add a zip file to the collection, how would it handle it?
[04:08] <ShockValue> errr.. you said ntfs.. nm.. thought you meant NFS
[04:08] <BluesKaj> Jahooty, in the terminal : sudo dpkg --configure -a ...then relogin
[04:08] <Jahooty> what's that do, btw?
[04:09] <raylu> =\
[04:09] <BluesKaj> it releases any pending installs or removals
[04:09] <raylu> i can't get the owner/group permissions to be what i want it to be
[04:09] <raylu> setting the group is useless since it has 0 permissions
[04:09] <ShockValue> just discovered this hellanzb program.. its pretty cool >:)
[04:12] <raylu> !info hellanzb
[04:12] <ubotu> hellanzb: Newzbin (nzb) & BinNews (bns) files downloader and post-processor. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.10-1ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 159 kB, installed size 720 kB
[04:12] <raylu> eh?? what does that mean?
[04:13] <Jahooty> i think i may have fixed it
[04:13] <Jahooty> we'll see
[04:13] <Jahooty> thanks for the help
[04:13] <ShockValue> you feed it NZB's from usenet, and it grabs and proccesses all the files for you automagically
[04:15] <BluesKaj> don't thank us til works Jahooty :)
[04:15] <BluesKaj> oops
[04:15] <juan_> how safe is it to have port 631 open?
[04:15] <raylu> ...
[04:15] <raylu> just as safe as any of the other 65534 ports
[04:15] <raylu> *unsafe
[04:15] <ShockValue> depends on whats listening on the port....
[04:16] <BluesKaj> not really , anything under 1064 or so is attackable , but being linux it's a tuff call
[04:16] <juan_> so, how can i network print safer?
[04:17] <BluesKaj> behind a router , juan_ ?
[04:17] <raylu> the safest way is to unplug yourself and sudo shutdown ^^
[04:17] <ShockValue> juan_: what we're trying to say is that it doesnt matter what port something is on, its just as vulnerable and/or safe as any other port.  what matters is the security of the listening application and your firewall rules, etc
[04:18] <BluesKaj> if so you're prolly ok
[04:18] <miles> !mp3
[04:18] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[04:18] <juan_> not really, i have a modem, connected to a port switch
[04:19] <ShockValue> hmm, yeah.. not so safe unless your modem has some kind of built in firewall.
[04:19] <jerry> necesiti instar flash adobe
[04:19] <jerry> pero em es imposible
[04:19] <ShockValue> ideally you'll want some kind of firewall between the switch and the modem
[04:19] <BluesKaj> well, not being windows , the under 1064 rule may not apply ...
[04:19] <juan_> should i configure my iptables?
[04:20] <miles> !ogg_vorbis
[04:20] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ogg_vorbis - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:20] <miles> !ogg vorbis
[04:20] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ogg vorbis - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:20] <miles> !ogg-vorbis
[04:20] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ogg-vorbis - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:20] <Daisuke-Ido> !ogg
[04:20] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[04:20] <ShockValue> !miles_spam
[04:20] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about miles_spam - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:20] <miles> o thanks
[04:20] <BluesKaj> !botabuse
[04:20] <ubotu> Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...
[04:21] <juan_> should i buy a firewall? it's only for my home network
[04:21] <BluesKaj> !firewall
[04:21] <ubotu> Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).
[04:22] <ShockValue> juan_: let me as you this, is your IP and the IP of your printer routable or non-routable?  (does it start with 192?)
[04:22] <joseph> Can someone tell me how to change the mouse cursors?
[04:22] <raylu> juan_, iptables should be fine; but chances are, you're worrying too much
[04:22] <miles> haha i just got mp3s to work
[04:22] <K-Ryan> It's not that hard
[04:22] <raylu> joseph, alt+f2 > kcontrol and alt+f1>system settings both have search
[04:22] <miles> yea juan, unless u got some pr0n, no one is gonna want to hack u
[04:22] <juan_> starts with 190
[04:22] <raylu> joseph, if you happen to find a place to download more cursors though, please tell me ^^
[04:23] <BluesKaj> cool miles ,see linux works :)
[04:23] <miles> i never said it didnt...unless u got AMD and trying to get flashplayer..
[04:23] <raylu> BluesKaj, better is: "when linux doesn't wor, you're not fscked."
[04:23] <miles> or ET
[04:23] <K-Ryan> It's as simple as installing libxine-extracodecs isn't it?
[04:23] <miles> yea
[04:23] <miles> that + amarok
[04:23] <raylu> yes, but the amaork script is what most people are using
[04:23] <raylu> and, last time i checked, it wasn't too...nice
[04:24] <miles> question -- how do you disable bouncing icons?
[04:24] <BluesKaj> the libxine-extracodecs is the easiest way tho
[04:24] <miles> example -- start firefox, the firefox logo bounces by the mouse
[04:24] <miles>  i hate that
[04:24] <K-Ryan> Run stuff from konsole
[04:24] <raylu> BluesKaj, but the amarok thing never mentions libxine-extracodecs :(
[04:25] <raylu> miles, the option is called "visual notification upon activation" i think
[04:25] <BluesKaj> legally it's not supposed to , raylu
[04:25] <raylu> and its in kcontrol/system settings...somewhere. maybe under mouse
[04:25] <ShockValue> raylu: thats true, i had to do some reading to figure out how to play my flac files
[04:25] <raylu> BluesKaj, but...that's what the script does anyway...im sure it's not illegal
[04:25] <cerecedo> hello!
[04:25] <BluesKaj> !soundkonvertor
[04:25] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about soundkonvertor - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:25] <raylu> the legal issue should be raised when you try to install the codecs
[04:25] <cerecedo> hola
[04:25] <raylu> !hi | cerecedo
[04:25] <ubotu> cerecedo: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!
[04:26] <K-Ryan> Is it just me or is libxine-extracodecs not available?
[04:26] <K-Ryan> In Dapper it seems
[04:26] <BluesKaj> !soundkonverter
[04:26] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about soundkonverter - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:26] <BluesKaj> ?
[04:26] <cerecedo> ok, si soy nuevo  / yes i am new....
[04:26] <BluesKaj> !soundKonverter
[04:27] <K-Ryan> !es | cerecedo
[04:27] <ubotu> cerecedo: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[04:27] <cerecedo> ok, gracias,
[04:27] <K-Ryan> de nada
[04:27] <cerecedo> como?
[04:28] <ShockValue> BluesKaj:  I had to install that package manually, its not in the standard list
[04:28] <K-Ryan> tu no necesitas ir
[04:28] <miles> i cant find how to disable the bouncing, i hate it
[04:28] <raylu> is ntfs-config a gui?
[04:28] <joseph> I have another question. I have a USB hard drive and in gnome it shows fine but not in KDE anyone have any ideas?
[04:29] <cerecedo> entre por accidente aqui, creo que ya vi como, gracias amigos
[04:29] <K-Ryan> !info libxine-extracodecs
[04:29] <ubotu> libxine-extracodecs: the xine video/media player library, transitional package. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.1.4-2ubuntu3 (feisty), package size 38 kB, installed size 68 kB
[04:29] <K-Ryan> !mp3
[04:29] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[04:33] <BluesKaj> raylu, yes ntfs-config is a gtk gui
[04:33] <raylu> =\
[04:33] <raylu> ok, any other ntfs mount config tools?
[04:33] <BluesKaj> but it works in kde
[04:33] <BluesKaj> then you should be
[04:33] <BluesKaj> this is Kubuntu chat
[04:34] <miles> does linus use kde?
[04:34] <BluesKaj> who cares
[04:34] <miles> or is he too leet, he just uses command line
[04:34] <miles> bro, i gotta know what the man himself uses
[04:34] <Darkrift> i wish there was a feature from windows that when you click close on a locked up app, after a min or so, it offers to kill the app for you
[04:34] <miles> laff?
[04:34] <Darkrift> so you dont have to then open the process list, or a console to kill the damned thing
[04:36] <raylu> Darkrift, how many apps lock on you?
[04:36] <raylu> BluesKaj, i know, but it doesn't make sense to ask in #ubuntu either :P
[04:36] <Darkrift> anything that uses video
[04:36] <BluesKaj> purists are elitist jerks IMO , just come in here to brag about how great they are and contribute practically nothing to the real linux cause :)
[04:36] <raylu> miles, I read something about how he didn't like gnome
[04:36] <Darkrift> totem, kaffiene, vlc, firefox, konq, etc etc
[04:36] <Darkrift> mplayer, mediaplayer.....
[04:37] <raylu> o.0
[04:37] <raylu> really?
[04:37] <raylu> sounds like your video is misconfiged
[04:37] <Darkrift> everything else works fine
[04:37] <Darkrift> hell, beryl even works great
[04:37] <Darkrift> lol
[04:38] <mignish> Can someone tell me where the "httpd.conf" file is for Apache2? I'm having problems installing PHP
[04:38] <raylu> o.0
[04:38] <ShockValue> mignish: not sure, but i'd start in /etc/apac.... someplace
[04:38] <raylu> -/etc/apache2/httpd.conf
[04:38] <mignish> great, thanks... i wasn't sure where Apache installed.
[04:39] <raylu> "which apache2"
[04:39] <mignish> yep
[04:39] <mignish> apache2
[04:39] <ShockValue> they had files in dos?
[04:39] <Darkrift> lol
[04:39] <Darkrift> i used to be a guru in dos
[04:40] <mignish> Dang, there is not httpd.conf file
[04:40] <BluesKaj> well, sacktime for this old guy ... God willing I'll be back tomorrow and take care all .
[04:40] <miles> mignish: check out xampp.org
[04:40] <mignish> :-)
[04:40] <miles> full lamp stack and it unzips to /opt
[04:40] <mignish> will do thanks.
[04:41] <raylu> mignish, there is also /usr/share/doc/apache2.2-common/examples/apache2/original/httpd.conf.gz
[04:41] <ardchoille> !lamp
[04:41] <ubotu> LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[04:41] <chaotic> hey i found out uhave to get wines repositry to get the latest version
[04:41] <raylu> ...no you don't
[04:41] <draik> Does Kubuntu keep a log of all the logins?
[04:41] <raylu> unless you mean of wine
[04:41] <chaotic> they dont have it on the ubuntu repository
[04:42] <chaotic> yeah u do
[04:42] <ardchoille> draik: /var/log/auth.log  ?
[04:42] <draik> ardchoille: Thank you much. Sudo?
[04:42] <draik> Wait, nevermind
[04:42] <raylu> lol
[04:42] <chaotic> ubuntu repo doesnt  have the latest version
[04:43] <chaotic> when u apt-get wine
[04:43] <raylu> i think the repositories have the latest stable version
[04:43] <chaotic> it tells u  u have the latest   version
[04:43] <chaotic> then i went to wine site
[04:43] <chaotic> i figured it couldnt be l   the latest
[04:43] <mignish> What was that website with LAMP info on it?
[04:44] <mignish> i accidentally closed Konversation.
[04:44] <K-Ryan> Anyone else on Dapper having a problem installing libxine-extracodecs?
[04:44] <draik> ardchoille: Why does it state: "session opened for user root by (uid=0)" on my most recent login? I didn't login with root at all
[04:44] <chaotic> sudo wget http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt/sources.list.d/feisty.list -O /etc/apt/sources.list.d/winehq.list
[04:44] <chaotic> i had to do that
[04:44] <draik> K-Ryan: Your first question should be: Anyone still on Dapper?
[04:44] <mignish> !lamp
[04:44] <ubotu> LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[04:44] <ardchoille> draik: Probably a cronjob or some such
[04:45] <K-Ryan> draik: I'm sure people are on Dapper
[04:45] <chaotic> then i ran apt-get then it uploaded
[04:45] <chaotic> well downloaded the latest
[04:45] <ardchoille> draik: I have that in my auth.log on a box that has never been connected so I don't think it's worth worrying over
[04:45] <draik> ardchoille: Nothing I should worry about, huh?
[04:45] <draik> Ok
[04:46] <chaotic> then i ran aptget all theres like 4 other progs that updated
[04:46] <draik> Answered my question before I asked you. I think I shall name you $DEITY
[04:46] <raylu> mignish, I think /etc/apache2/apache2.conf was actually the config o.0
[04:46] <ardchoille> draik: lol
[04:47] <ardchoille> raylu, mignish: that page that ubotu posted about lamp has that info
[04:48] <ardchoille> Took me three minutes and one apt-get install to get lamp running
[04:49] <mignish> thanks raylu.
[04:50] <raylu> *lamp
[04:51] <chaotic> hhey ddo i change my clock from military time to normal
[04:51] <chaotic> how
[04:51] <raylu> right-click...
[04:51] <mignish> right click on it
[04:51] <mignish> then under preferences
[04:51] <mignish> you choose the display type
[04:52] <mignish> hehe
[04:52] <mignish> it is the same in windows.
[04:52] <ardchoille> chaotic: right click, Date & Time Format , Time & Dates tab, Time Format
[04:52] <raylu> something is bound to :80; how do i find out what?
[04:53] <ardchoille> raylu: /etc/apache2/ports.conf ?
[04:53] <ardchoille> Listen:80  ?
[04:53] <raylu> i want to leave it on 80; apache2 can't bind to 80 because
[04:54] <raylu> something is already bound there
[04:54] <raylu> i want to know what
[04:54] <ardchoille> Oh, ok
[04:54] <draik> Port 80 is your browser, isn't it?
[04:54] <miles> raylu - nmap localhost
[04:54] <raylu> 80 = http
[04:54] <chaotic> um nothing changes
[04:54] <raylu> installing nmap :(
[04:54] <raylu> chaotic, didn't you read the thing after you pressed ok?
[04:54] <ardchoille> chaotic: I think that setting requires a logout/login
[04:55] <raylu> oh yeah, how do i tell apt to stop using my cd?
[04:55] <ardchoille> raylu: comment out those lines in sources.list
[04:55] <raylu> o.0
[04:55] <draik> raylu: sudo umount /media/cdrom0
[04:55] <raylu> duh :( i thought i checked that already
[04:55] <raylu> draik, that just tells me to insert the cd :P
[04:55] <K-Ryan> Has anyone done a network install before?
[04:55] <raylu> nmap says only 3306 is open for my mysql
[04:56] <draik> raylu: No, you want umount to stop
[04:56] <draik> mount will ask for a ced
[04:56] <draik> *cd
[04:56] <raylu> no, apt is asking for the cd
[04:56] <raylu> and ardchoille, i already commented it out, but something added it back in
[04:57] <chaotic> im good
[04:57] <ardchoille> raylu: o.O
[04:57] <K-Ryan> Anybody? Network install?
[04:57] <chaotic> hey if it says unrar not in path what does that mean
[04:57] <chaotic> i already installed unrar-free
[04:58] <miles> export PATH = $PATH: <<path to unrar>>
[04:58] <miles> is that right?
[04:59] <ardchoille> should be
[04:59] <mignish> are there any LAMP packages i can install via apt-get by default?
[04:59] <raylu> so, i don't understand the message i get when i use "sudo apache2ctl start":
[04:59] <ardchoille> mignish: Did you read the page I posted twice now?
[04:59] <chaotic> whats the default path to unrar
[04:59] <raylu> (98) adress already in use: make_sock: could not bind to address <IP_ADDRESS>:80
[04:59] <ardchoille> !lamp
[04:59] <mignish> ardchoille was it the one the bot posted?
[04:59] <ubotu> LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[04:59] <draik> ardchoille: I would love to run a server, but I feel as though I would not manage it properly.
[05:00] <ardchoille> draik: It's not hard at all. my 8 year old niece runs lamp on her ubuntu box.. if she can do it, you can do it ;)
[05:00] <raylu> draik, neither would i manage it properly...which is why i'm doing it ^^
[05:00] <mignish> ardchoille i didn't because it opened in quanta but i'll just copy and paste and see if it's helpful. i just figured i'd seen it already. the url looks familiar.
[05:01] <ardchoille> mignish: That page has a lot of good info for running lamp
[05:01] <draik> I want to have a server that I can use to backup my music, pictures and docs. I want it to be accessible through my laptop and desktop
[05:01] <chaotic> export PATH = $PATH: /usr/bin
[05:01] <miles> !traditional societies
[05:01] <chaotic> that gave me an error
[05:01] <ardchoille> chaotic: /usr/bin should already be in your $PATH
[05:01] <ardchoille> chaotic: echo $PATH
[05:02] <miles> yea
[05:02] <mignish> ardchoille: i'm using tasksel to install it's doing it now. Thanks.
[05:02] <miles> go to the directory where your unrar binary is and see if you can run it there
[05:03] <dr_willis> draik,  i  got a ubuntu box set up as a samba server for that need.
[05:03] <miles> samba pwnz
[05:03] <draik> ardchoille: Would I be able to setup LAMP on my desktop install without messing anything up?
[05:03] <miles> samba pwnz teh no0b haxz
[05:03] <raylu> draik, yes
[05:03] <ardchoille> chaotic: You have a space there, shouldn't have a space,  export PATH = $PATH:/usr/bin
[05:04] <draik> What's the diff between LAMP and SAMBA? I thought SAMBA was a bridge for Linux to win?
[05:04] <ardchoille> draik: yes, see the page ubotu posted earlier. it's easy
[05:04] <dr_willis> draik,  you got a LOT of reading to do.. Lamp has nothing to do with samba
[05:04] <miles> now that i think about it ardchoille, i dont think there is a space between the PATH=$PATH
[05:04] <dr_willis> !lamp
[05:04] <ubotu> LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[05:04] <dr_willis> !samba
[05:04] <ubotu> samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[05:05] <ardchoille> miles: you're right, my bad.
[05:05] <Lopin> I'm back, and I'm running Kubuntu!  Finally...
[05:05] <Lopin> However, I do have one question...
[05:05] <j1mc> hi all - my font in my kdm screen is very small, any idea on how to correct that?
[05:05] <ardchoille> I was talking about his space between PATH: and /usr/bin
[05:05] <raylu> !modeline | j1mc
[05:05] <ubotu> j1mc: A Modeline is a config line in the X server configuration file that gives info about a connected display and how to drive it at a specified display resolution. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/XFree86_Modeline for more details. Here are 2 links to generate modelines which fit your monitor: http://bohne-lang.de/spec/linux/modeline/ and http://xtiming.sourceforge.net/cgi-bin/xtiming.pl
[05:05] <raylu> so...anyone know why apache2 won't start?
[05:05] <strabes> is there a way to prevent multiple instances of a program (gaim)
[05:05] <chaotic> doesnt open
[05:05] <j1mc> raylu: that was fast.  is this a common problem?
[05:06] <ardchoille> raylu: Don't launch it multiple times?
[05:06] <miles> laff
[05:06] <miles> u silly
[05:06] <raylu> ardchoille, it's not launched
[05:06] <raylu> nmap localhost shows that nothing is bound to 80
[05:06] <dr_willis> makes sence to me..
[05:06] <chaotic> not valid identifier
[05:06] <raylu> and using apache2ctl stop give sme
[05:06] <raylu> *gives me httpd (no pid file) not running
[05:07] <miles> i think there is an option in httpd.conf about pid files
[05:07] <ardchoille> sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 stop  ?
[05:07] <raylu> same msg
[05:07] <miles> raylu, are you trying to set up ssl?
[05:07] <raylu> ...no
[05:07] <miles> k nm
[05:08] <chaotic> i just installed unrar works perfect
[05:08] <chaotic> never installing unrar-free
[05:08] <chaotic> again
[05:08] <ardchoille> !info unrar
[05:08] <ubotu> unrar: Unarchiver for .rar files (non-free version). In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1:3.7.3-1 (feisty), package size 94 kB, installed size 228 kB
[05:08] <Lopin> Anyone know how to get wifi up and running?
[05:09] <ardchoille> !info unrar-free
[05:09] <ubotu> unrar-free: Unarchiver for .rar files. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:0.0.1+cvs20060609-1 (feisty), package size 17 kB, installed size 80 kB
[05:09] <K-Ryan> Lopin: Depends on a lot of stuff
[05:09] <K-Ryan> Start here though
[05:09] <dr_willis> Lopin,  with lots of luck and research.. depending on your wireless card
[05:09] <chaotic> what do u mean non free
[05:09] <K-Ryan> !wifi
[05:09] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[05:09] <Lopin> Thank you!
[05:09] <K-Ryan> Lopin: Good luck
[05:09] <ardchoille> chaotic: there are two versions, it seems
[05:09] <ardchoille> free and non-free
[05:09] <chaotic> i just got unrar without paying
[05:10] <chaotic> so   does that make it free
[05:10] <dr_willis> the rar makers have released the unrar stuff , but licensing wont let someone make a free 'rar' utility that can make rars
[05:10] <K-Ryan> !free
[05:10] <ubotu> freedom is important. Ubuntu is as free as we can make it, which means mostly free software. See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.html and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/licensing
[05:10] <dr_willis> !beer
[05:10] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about beer - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:10] <K-Ryan> Free as in, you can look at the source and modify it
[05:10] <ardchoille> dr_willis: Thank you :)
[05:10] <K-Ryan> Not free as in "You don't have to pay"
[05:10] <chaotic> !anarchy
[05:10] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about anarchy - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:10] <K-Ryan> !botabuse
[05:10] <ubotu> Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...
[05:11] <Tm_T> angry ops? who's those?
[05:11] <intelikey> Tm_T hehhe
[05:11] <ardchoille> Tm_T: lol
[05:12] <j1mc> raylu: should i paste the modeline information in the "Screen" portion of my xorg.conf file?
[05:12] <Tm_T> lovely, it's raining
[05:12] <draik> ardchoille: Ok... I installed LAMP
[05:12] <dr_willis> You have a need for LAMP?
[05:13] <draik> It's not a need as it is curiosity for the near future
[05:13] <thunderbolt> Where's it raining?
[05:13] <K-Ryan> It's raining on Long Island, NY
[05:13] <K-Ryan> That's for sure...
[05:13] <intelikey> lol :)
[05:13] <thunderbolt> Haha.
[05:14] <dr_willis> The Rain in Spain Falls Mainly on the Plain!
[05:14] <dr_willis> :)
[05:14] <mignish> If i've installed LAMP have I insalled Apache and Mysql and all that because it's still not working... i'm going to have to mess quite a bit i think.
[05:14] <ardchoille> draik: Cool, now bookmark this page: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP   It'll come in handy
[05:14] <ardchoille> mignish: What was your apt-get command?
[05:14] <draik> ardchoille: I already did when I was there from the link ubotu provided.
[05:14] <ardchoille> :)
[05:15] <mignish> ardchoille: i used tasksel and selected LAMP Server
[05:15] <ardchoille> mignish: I've never used tasksel so I don't know.. I stick with apt-get
[05:15] <miles> im telling u mignish, xampp
[05:15] <miles> it works
[05:16] <mignish> i'll give that  ashot. i am downloading now... it's kind of a slow d/l
[05:16] <miles> o
[05:16] <miles> its great for dev work, they say on the site dont use it for production boxes
[05:16] <mignish> miles: must be my connection though.
[05:16] <miles> its a decent size...
[05:16] <ardchoille> mignish: If yo had installed the way that docs page listed, you would know exactly what you have and how to use it.
[05:17] <mignish> i read the page you linked me to but i just want to make sure i'm understanding it correctly. It sounds to me like LAMP is everything i need but then it goes on to tell you how to install Apache2 and PHP in the same page.
[05:18] <ardchoille> mignish: lamp is a coolection of apps: Linux, Apache, MySQL, php.. you have to install them seperately and you have lamp
[05:19] <draik> I know that I can do /list and get a list of all the channels. Is there a way to limit the search to "cars" or "tuners"?
[05:19] <mignish> It sounds to me like using Tasksel it installs all of them for you.
[05:19] <dr_willis> draik,  depends on your ir5c client. and the list can get HUGE...
[05:19] <dr_willis>   /list PATTERN perhaps
[05:20] <ardchoille> mignish: Well, you see the disadvantage of allowing an app to do all the work you should be doing yourself? You now don't know exactly what tasksel installed.
[05:20] <draik> dr_willis: Yup, that did it
[05:20] <draik> Too bad it didn't bring up anything... :(
[05:20] <ardchoille> There's no substitution for learning how to do things yourself.
[05:21] <dr_willis> ardchoille,  or reading the docs. :)
[05:21] <dr_willis> !irc
[05:21] <ubotu> A list of official Ubuntu IRC channels, as well as IRC clients for Ubuntu, can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat - For a general list of !freenode channels, see http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#channellist - See also !Guidelines
[05:21] <ardchoille> dr_willis: exactly
[05:22] <draik> Haha.. I was wondering why South CARolina was on the list. UbuntuSouthCarolina
[05:22] <mignish> ardchoille: It seems to have done exactly what I had. Everything works the same way as when i installed everything manually. i think everything installed right but i need to figure out how to configure it.
[05:22] <mignish> ardchoille: thanks for the links.
[05:22] <ardchoille> You're welcome :)
[05:24] <ardchoille> eeewwww, tasksel is a gui. Why on earth would someone write a gui to install things when apt-get is so much faster and teaches you things?
[05:26] <intelikey> ardchoille why would anyone write a gui ?
[05:26] <ardchoille> intelikey: Good point
[05:26] <dr_willis> down with interfaces!
[05:26] <dr_willis> back to punchcards!
[05:26] <ardchoille> hehe
[05:26] <ardchoille> lolz!
[05:26] <draik> ardchoille: I wondered the same thing. I just went with "Umm.. Ok. Just follow the instructions"

[05:27] <hero> hey, i can't seem to get kdm to work
[05:28] <intelikey> hero kdm or xorg ?
[05:28] <miles> !kdm
[05:28] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kdm - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:28] <hero> intelikey: what do you mean?
[05:28] <draik> hero: Are you using kdm or gdm?
[05:28] <ardchoille> Well, if I apt-get install app1 app2 app3, and app2 messes up, I know how to uninstall it, or purge it, or uninstall its deps and reinstall if need be. using tasksel I have no idea what's going on behind the scenes.
[05:28] <hero> well, i'm using gdm now because it's the only thing that will get me into kde
[05:28] <hero> gdm login, kde session
[05:28] <draik> ardchoille: I felt the same way on that. I just waited for the bar
[05:28] <mignish> xampp workes miles. going to mess with it tomorrow. Thank you :-)
[05:28] <hero> if i run kdm, i just start into a black screen with a normal xterm and no window decs
[05:29] <mignish> bye all thakns for the help :-)
[05:29] <draik> hero: Then you have gdm, not kdm
[05:29] <intelikey> hero been messing with /etc/kde*/kdm/*  ???
[05:29] <hero> intelikey: no
[05:29] <intelikey> hmmm
[05:29] <hero> it's like if i don't use gdm then i get sort of a generic login, like xdm
[05:29] <miles> no prob mignish
[05:29] <miles> o dang, he already left
[05:29] <dr_willis> xdm - the Classics!
[05:29] <dr_willis> :)
[05:30] <ardchoille> hero: Did you stop gdm before starting kdm?
[05:30] <hero> ardchoille: well i did dpkg-reconfigure gdm and then chose kdm
[05:30] <hero> if i remove gdm, then i get the generic login
[05:30] <ardchoille> Ah, ok
[05:30] <dr_willis> did you 'dpkg-reconfigure kdm' yet?
[05:31] <hero> i think so
[05:31] <hero> it's almost like kdm doesn't work right
[05:31] <draik> hero: Restart. That will take care of it. It did for me when I installed ubuntu-desktop
[05:31] <hero> draik: i've done that a bunch of times already
[05:31] <hero> it doesn't help
[05:31] <draik> hero: Are you sure you have kdm installed?
[05:31] <ardchoille> reboots are for kernel/grub work
[05:31] <hero> kdm is installed
[05:32] <draik> reboots have done wonders for me. Usually when restarting X doesn't work, reboot will.
[05:32] <hero> this time a reboot won't help
[05:32] <intelikey> kernel yes    grub ?    lilo maybe
[05:32] <hero> i've attempted this a couple of times
[05:32] <ardchoille> intelikey: Not needed for changes to grub?
[05:32] <dr_willis> if KDM is not selected as the 'default' login manager with the  'dpkg-reconfigure kdm'   then it WONT load from the xdm service.
[05:33] <hero> and i wonder if it has something to do with starting with ubuntu and then having apt instal kubuntu-desktop
[05:33] <intelikey> ardchoille not any that i know of
[05:33] <dr_willis> the boot messages say so. :) 'not starting kdm since its not the default login manager' or similer
[05:33] <ardchoille> intelikey: Oh, ok.
[05:33] <dr_willis> hero,  ive  always started with ubuntu, and installed kubuntu-desktop dozens of times.
[05:33] <dr_willis> never had issues.
[05:33] <hero> alright
[05:33] <hero> i'll try reconfiguring kdm just to be sure
[05:34] <hero> bbiab
[05:34] <draik> I went backwards. I started with Kubuntu and used "sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop". I had GDM, but I later switched to KDM
[05:35] <draik> 'dpkg-reconfigure gdm' did the trick... followed by a reboot
[05:35] <chaotic> hey how do  i associate pan to nzbs
[05:37] <intelikey> chaotic right click one and "open with"   then select the always use this app  and the app you want to use  ???
[05:37] <intelikey> just a guess
[05:38] <chaotic> yeah it doesnt open it up
[05:42] <hero> yeah
[05:42] <hero> that didn't do any good
[05:42] <hero> do xdm and the default kdm look the same?
[05:42] <dr_willis> hero,  no
[05:42] <intelikey> hero no
[05:42] <nelson_> boa noite
[05:42] <hero> yeah
[05:42] <hero> i think it's xdm
[05:42] <dr_willis> hero,  you did do a 'dpkg-reconfigure kdm' ?
[05:43] <hero> dr_willis: i just did that.
[05:43] <hero> it doesn't work
[05:43] <dr_willis> hero,  you did do a 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure kdm'  I mean
[05:43] <dr_willis> you selected kdm?
[05:43] <hero> yes.
[05:43] <hero> it's like kdm isn't working
[05:43] <hero> although it installed via apt-get with no problems
[05:43] <dr_willis> well ya could start 'kdm' from the console with 'sudo kdm'
[05:43] <hero> yeah, i know
[05:43] <hero> i'd rather have a login manager
[05:43] <nelson_> alguem do brasil?
[05:43] <intelikey> hero kdm is a login manager
[05:43] <hero> !br
[05:43] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigado.
[05:44] <dr_willis> if  kdm starts from the console, then ya know its not a kdm issue.. its some other config ieeus
[05:44] <dr_willis> issue
[05:44] <hero> intelikey: yes, i know
[05:44] <intelikey> hero so try was the good doctor is saying
[05:44] <hero> ?
[05:44] <dr_willis> hero,  do a           cat /etc/X11/default-display-manager
[05:44] <hero> i'm going to try it
[05:44] <dr_willis> see what its set to.
[05:45] <dr_willis> cat /etc/X11/default-display-manager
[05:45] <dr_willis> /usr/bin/kdm
[05:45] <hero> it says gdm right now, but i had it where it said kdm and kdm still didn't work
[05:45] <dr_willis> is mine.
[05:45] <dr_willis> odd
[05:45] <dr_willis> try killing X. and starting KDM from the console then with sudo kdm
[05:45] <dr_willis> see if THAT works for kdm
[05:45] <hero> alright
[05:46] <dr_willis> quick lets all change Nicks!
[05:46] <dr_willis> :)
[05:46] <intel_hidden> :)
[05:46] <ardchoille> hahaha
[05:47] <intel_hidden> now he wont know me :)
[05:47] <Dr_Willis_Hidden> :)
[05:47] <intel_hidden> :)
[05:47] <hero> well, after looking at ps output, it is kdm_greet that is running
[05:47] <hero> so maybe it *is* kdm after all
[05:47] <hero> it just doesn't log you in to kde
[05:47] <hero> i'm in no wm-land
[05:48] <hero> so why would under gdm i get a kde session, but not under kdm?
[05:48] <ardchoille> hero: kde is a desktop environment, not a window manager. kwin is the window manager used in kde
[05:48] <Dr_Willis_Hidden> no idea. ive not dissected how the gdm/kdm stuff works.
[05:49] <Dr_Willis_Hidden> gdm/kdm/xdm are the X login managers
[05:49] <Dr_Willis_Hidden> theres others ya can play with also. ;)
[05:49] <Dr_Willis_Hidden> !find xdm
[05:49] <ubotu> Found: libxdmcp-dev, libxdmcp6, libxdmcp6-dbg, xdm, xdms (and 2 others)
[05:49] <Dr_Willis_Hidden> !info wdm
[05:49] <hero> alright
[05:49] <ubotu> wdm: WINGs Display Manager - an xdm replacement with a WindowMaker look. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.28-2.2 (feisty), package size 398 kB, installed size 1256 kB
[05:49] <pyrotix__> My computer in windows won't recognize/doesn't have drivers for my ethernet port, so I cannot connect to the internet. How can I find what my ethernet port is and how would I get drivers for it? I presume I could find the former with linux which can connect to the internet. Help plz.
[05:49] <Dr_Willis_Hidden> hero,  not sure how ya got the system so confused. :)
[05:49] <hero> so i screwed up in VOCABULARY. can you help me?
[05:49] <pyrotix__> Heh I have hardware that works on linux but not windows. Go figure
[05:50] <ardchoille> pyrotix__: Now, if we can get the other hw vendors to start doing that..
[05:50] <Dr_Willis_Hidden> pyrotix__,  seen hardware that works under windows and gets configured in such a way linux cant 'reconfogure' it. :) a hard reboot straight to linux lets it work right.
[05:50] <hero> the desktop environment works, then, under gdm, but not under kdm. gdm and kdm are login managers.
[05:50] <Dr_Willis_Hidden> pyrotix__,  windows is very STUPID about network cards. it expects different drivers for my 3 identical chipset realtek nic's i have
[05:51] <Dr_Willis_Hidden> linux uses the same modulke for them all.
[05:51] <ardchoille> hero: You can also login at console and do: startx
[05:51] <hero> well let me ask this. are the themes for gdm and kdm the same?
[05:51] <ardchoille> hero: no
[05:51] <intelikey> pyrotix__ yeah i was just admiring that....     anyway     lshw | less
[05:51] <hero> dang
[05:51] <Dr_Willis_Hidden> hero,  themes are not the same
[05:51] <Dr_Willis_Hidden> themes are for the weak!
[05:51] <Dr_Willis_Hidden> :)
[05:51] <hero> not if you're creating a product
[05:51] <miles> pwn
[05:52] <intelikey> miles ?
[05:52] <miles> yea
[05:52] <hero> so would kdm work but kde would not?
[05:52] <intelikey> hero root
[05:52] <Dr_Willis_Hidden> hero,  does kdm work from the console with 'sudo kdm' ? i never saw that answered
[05:52] <intelikey> hero   /root   kdm writes there   but gdm doesn't
[05:53] <hero> i don't get any errors from sudo kdm
[05:53] <Dr_Willis_Hidden> hero,  so it works? or does it NOT work?
[05:53] <hero> but i'm not sure of how to just stop x
[05:53] <Dr_Willis_Hidden> *sigh*
[05:53] <miles> laff out loud?
[05:53] <Dr_Willis_Hidden> sudo /etc/init.d/kdm stop
[05:53] <Dr_Willis_Hidden> or was it kill?
[05:53] <ardchoille> stop
[05:53] <Dr_Willis_Hidden> sudo /etc/init.d/kdm  (or gdm or xdm)
[05:54] <hero> heh, it says kdm isn't running
[05:54] <Dr_Willis_Hidden> that will KIll X dead. :)
[05:54] <miles> personally sometimes i just restart x for the heck of it, ctrl+alt+backspace x2
[05:54] <intelikey> and use ?dm   get'em all
[05:54] <Dr_Willis_Hidden> because you are using gdm, perhaps?
[05:54] <intelikey> sudo /etc/init.d/?dm stop
[05:54] <intelikey> then sudo /etc/init.d/kdm start
[05:54] <Dr_Willis_Hidden> also i notice that...........
[05:55] <Dr_Willis_Hidden>  ls -l /etc/rc2.d/*dm
[05:55] <Dr_Willis_Hidden> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 13 2007-04-18 10:07 /etc/rc2.d/S13gdm -> ../init.d/gdm
[05:55] <Dr_Willis_Hidden> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 13 2007-04-17 12:52 /etc/rc2.d/S99kdm -> ../init.d/kdm
[05:55] <Dr_Willis_Hidden> Those 2 init scripts both read some config file to see if they should start kdm or gem.
[05:55] <intelikey> heh  yeah but the one not in /etc/X11 is ignored
[05:55] <Dr_Willis_Hidden> Its interesting the gdm starts at S13, while kdm starts at S99 ....
[05:55] <ardchoille> Dr_Willis_Hidden: /etc/X11/default-display-manager  ?
[05:56] <Dr_Willis_Hidden> /etc/X11/default-display-manager
[05:56] <hero>  /usr/bin/kdm
[05:56] <Dr_Willis_Hidden> yea - interesting
[05:56] <pyrotix__> intelikey: ty.
[05:56] <Dr_Willis_Hidden> wonder what wouldhappen if ne removed the S13gdm script
[05:56] <intelikey> welcome
[05:56] <hero> i dunno
[05:57] <pyrotix__> guys if I have an ethernet port of specifications as read in linux as http://pastebin.com/d2e3dbf81, where would I find a windows driver?
[05:57] <Dr_Willis_Hidden> It has some neat comments. :)
[05:58] <Dr_Willis_Hidden> # To start gdm even if it is not the default display manager, change
[05:58] <Dr_Willis_Hidden> # HEED_DEFAULT_DISPLAY_MANAGER to "false."
[05:58] <ardchoille> Dr_Willis_Hidden: what would happen if he: sudo sed -i 's/gdm/kdm/g' /etc/X11/default-display-manager   and then ctrl+alt+backspace ?
[05:58] <intelikey> oh nvidia nforce2    shouldn't be hard to find pyrotix__   msn search maybe ?
[05:59] <Dr_Willis_Hidden> ardchoille,  he said earlier that he had kdm in the  default-display-manager file
[05:59] <ardchoille> Dr_Willis_Hidden: yes, but did he restart xorg?
[05:59] <Dr_Willis_Hidden> ardchoille,  for all we know kdm has somthing broken.. im not sure he knows half of what hes doing. :)
[05:59] <intelikey> Dr_Willis_Hidden i thought he said it was gdm now but had been kdm
[05:59] <Dr_Willis_Hidden> I think he is rebooting to test. :)
[05:59] <ardchoille> ok
[06:00] <Dr_Willis_Hidden> im just exploring a bit.
[06:00] <dani> anyone know how to install and run frostwire?
[06:00] <Dr_Willis_Hidden> Odd that its S99 for KDM and S13 for Gdm
[06:00] <intelikey> i told him to use    <intelikey> sudo /etc/init.d/?dm stop     <intelikey> then sudo /etc/init.d/kdm start         meh
[06:00] <Dr_Willis_Hidden> !frostwire
[06:00] <ubotu> frostwire is a totally open source version of Limewire.  For installation help, please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FrostWire
[06:00] <dani> kthx
[06:00] <raylu> can anyone help with eggdrop?
[06:00] <pyrotix__> intelikey: if it can be found with msn search it should be something that is indeed easy to find. I went to http://www.nvidia.com/content/drivers/drivers.asp, but their does not seem to be a network port listed under nforce
[06:00] <ardchoille> Dr_Willis_Hidden: what do those numbers mean? (S99, S13)
[06:01] <Dr_Willis_Hidden> thats how soon in the boot process it starts up
[06:01] <Dr_Willis_Hidden> S13 is way high.. S99 is about the end.. i think it IS the end
[06:01] <ardchoille> ah
[06:01] <Dr_Willis_Hidden> ls  /etc/rc2.d/
[06:01] <Dr_Willis_Hidden> and look at yours
[06:02] <Dr_Willis_Hidden> thers some 'common' guidelines on what #'s are for what.
[06:02] <intelikey> pyrotix__ hmmm   well i haven't done windows in a long time now, so i'm prolly not the guy to advise you on that issue.   maybe  someone in  ##windows
[06:02] <Dr_Willis_Hidden> Like 80+ is for after networking is set up (i think)
[06:02] <ardchoille> /etc/rc2.d/S99kdm
[06:02] <ardchoille> There is no gdm
[06:03] <Dr_Willis_Hidden> S10sysklogd  - starts the logger stuff way early.
[06:03] <intelikey> Dr_Willis_Hidden  that would only apply in  /etc/rc.
[06:03] <Dr_Willis_Hidden> ardchoille,  if you have gdm installed there is one.
[06:03] <intelikey> S/
[06:03] <ardchoille> yeah
[06:03] <pyrotix__> ty, just the sort of channel I was looking for
[06:03] <Dr_Willis_Hidden> ardchoille,  yea. note the stuff in rc2.d is only LINKS to the actual scripts. :)
[06:03] <Dr_Willis_Hidden> the way the init system works.. is sort of nifty.. Simple.. yet .. well flexiable.
[06:03] <ardchoille> oic
[06:03] <chaotic> man i cant for the life of me get nzvbs  to  work
[06:04] <Dr_Willis_Hidden> This is still the SysV init suystem i think..  :)
[06:04] <chaotic> ive tried both knode annnd pan newsreaders
[06:04] <dope> if you forgot your root password is there anyway to recover or change it?
[06:04] <Dr_Willis_Hidden> dope,  live cd, edit the passwd file, or chroot to the installed system and use passwd command
[06:04] <ardchoille> dope: boot into recovery mode and change it
[06:04] <chaotic> thats like forgetting a bios password
[06:04] <intelikey> dope sure   recovery mode
[06:05] <Dr_Willis_Hidden> chaotic,  not really.. rather trivial to set it. :)
[06:05] <chaotic> donbt u type it in all the time
[06:05] <ardchoille> this is why security is out the window if someone has physical access to the machine
[06:05] <intelikey> dope  but are you talking about a root password or the password you use with "sudo" ?
[06:06] <Dr_Willis_Hidden> ardchoille,  hit it right on the head....
[06:06] <chaotic> can anyone suggest a good newsreader with   nzb support
[06:06] <intelikey> dope ?
[06:06] <Dr_Willis_Hidden> No idea what nzb is
[06:06] <Diki> hello peoples
[06:06] <scotty> !dvd
[06:06] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[06:06] <chaotic> !newsreader
[06:06] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about newsreader - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:06] <Diki> Is it possible to make Konversation use 12 hour time for it's timestamps?
[06:06] <chaotic> !newsreaders
[06:06] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about newsreaders - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:07] <ardchoille> chaotic: Does akregator have nzb support?
[06:07] <alakhia> !theora
[06:07] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about theora - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:07] <Dr_Willis_Hidden> for info on the Init system read the ---------- >   /etc/init.d/README   file. :) cool
[06:07] <alakhia> !ogg
[06:07] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[06:08] <Dr_Willis_Hidden> well Hero never came back!
[06:08] <Dr_Willis_Hidden> :)
[06:08] <Dr_Willis_Hidden> night all.
[06:08] <ardchoille> nn Dr_Willis_Hidden
[06:09] <chaotic> hellanzb does
[06:09] <alakhia> can anyone help me? I would like to watch an ogg file in mplayer. I can hear the audio but the video is a still picture ...
[06:11] <intelikey> what's that media player for windows that's supposed to play like every known format  ???
[06:12] <NightBird> intelikey: vlc?
[06:12] <intelikey> playall or some wacky name like that  ????
[06:12] <miles> nokia n800
[06:13] <intelikey> NightBird windows port of vlc ?   nice.    but that's not what i was asking about tho
[06:13] <NightBird> uh... ok... well, that's one of the better video players I've used...
[06:14] <NightBird> most of the others use the windows codec, so it doesn't really matter
[06:14] <intelikey> heard this guy talking about it,  just wondered if it was very common.     and yeah it's M$ junk
[06:15] <miles> irc is so cool
[06:15] <miles> i cant believe im just now finding it
[06:15] <intelikey> :)
[06:15] <andrew_____> ey can someone help me w/ grub?
[06:15] <raylu> more specifically?
[06:15] <miles> niles?
[06:16] <andrew_____> i need to know how to change the time it automatically selects a os to boot into
[06:16] <intelikey> depends on the issue and your communication skills  i suppose Andrew
[06:16] <andrew_____> oo srry im dualbooting between winxp and kubuntu is that better?
[06:16] <intelikey> andrew_____ ok  give me a second
[06:17] <andrew_____> k thank you
[06:17] <andrew_____> like the thing only gives you 9 seconds ot select so yea, I was wanting to change it to like 30 secs or maybe never if you can
[06:17] <andrew_____> to*
[06:17] <intelikey> andrew_____   the line that says       timeout=
[06:17] <intelikey> the number is in seconds
[06:17] <dasnipa> andrew_____: would be nice if you name didnt have 5 bloody _'s
[06:18] <andrew_____> lol i didnt do it
[06:18] <intelikey> in the  /boot/grub/menu.lst
[06:18] <andrew_____> alright thankyou intelikey
[06:18] <raylu> andrew_____, /nick andrew1
[06:18] <raylu> can anyone recommend an irc bot?
[06:18] <intelikey> andrew_____ welcome.   and you'll hve to edit that as root
[06:18] <andrew1> oo alright the thing automatically checks though andrew_ then andrew__ ect..
[06:18] <andrew1> alright thankyou
[06:19] <intelikey> raylu eggdrop ?
[06:19] <raylu> eggdrop is way over-complicated
[06:19] <raylu> and the docs are spread across like 5 domains
[06:19] <raylu> the default config file has literally over 1000 lines and
[06:19] <raylu> there are two "die" lines that you must remove before the bot works
[06:19] <intelikey> there's a perl bot too  but i make it a point not to reccoment perl
[06:19] <intelikey> errrr python
[06:20] <andrew1> ok I havent been on kubuntu in a while, how do I edit menu.lst under root?
[06:20] <inteliwasp> i just got 2 new monitors, what is the best way to get X to congigure them and use xinerama? also i am useing the nvidia binary
[06:20] <raylu> how do i search package descriptions?
[06:20] <andrew1> i knwo you need to type like sudo but what else?
[06:20] <luke83> hi, i want to set up a feisty mirror for the offline installation of 60 computers, which repositories do i need in my mirrors.list?
[06:20] <raylu> andrew1, kdesu kate
[06:20] <intelikey> andrew1   sudo nano /boot/grub/menu.lst
[06:20] <andrew1> uh thanks whats kdesu kate? lol
[06:20] <intelikey> take your pick   one is a gui based editor the other console based
[06:21] <andrew1> oo well idc
[06:21] <miles> kate has syntax highlighting!! omgz0rz!
[06:21] <andrew1> wichever one is faster and easier so im guessing console is
[06:21] <intelikey> miles but he's only going to change a number in the timeout= line   :)
[06:21] <miles> haha
[06:21] <chaotic> im getiing sypnatic  i heard u can get more packages with that
[06:21] <raylu> also, how do you get nano to stop making backup files?
[06:22] <miles> it only makes the file if u modify the original
[06:22] <luke83> nano -w
[06:22] <chaotic> is it  true not all debian pkgs work on kubuntu
[06:22] <miles> sorry raylu
[06:22] <miles> i just realized im mr obvious
[06:22] <evaklo> hello everyone
[06:22] <intelikey> raylu it's a setting in the /etc/nanorc   and i think there is a command line arg
[06:22] <evaklo> How are your=
[06:23] <andrew1> uhh i think I did something wrong....
[06:23] <andrew1> nano came up but its on a black screen...
[06:23] <miles> you might of typed the name of the file wrong
[06:23] <destynova> would someone like to help me configure my desktop resolution plz?
[06:23] <miles> you need to do "nano /path/to/file"
[06:23] <intelikey> close it andrew1 nd use [tab]  key completion of the file name
[06:23] <chaotic> how do u uninstall an apt-get  program thats broken
[06:24] <andrew1> alrigh thanks
[06:24] <intelikey> bash is really neet that way.  checks spelling of path and filename
[06:24] <andrew1> sweet thanks it works now :)
[06:25] <andrew1> lol im retarded
[06:25] <intelikey> :)
[06:25] <intelikey> we're all slow in our own ways
[06:25] <luke83> anyone who knows how to set up a mirror for feisty?
[06:26] <intelikey> luke83   no.    but   apt-mirror  ???
[06:26] <luke83> i'm trying with that already, but is 16gig not a bit small for the whole kubuntu?
[06:26] <intelikey> no
[06:27] <luke83> ok, thanks.
[06:27] <intelikey> wait   is that  main restricted universe multiverse backports   ?
[06:27] <intelikey> might be small for all those...    i don't know
[06:28] <luke83> do i need backports? i added medibuntu and left out the src reps
[06:28] <intelikey> luke83 depends on the use of the mirror
[06:28] <intelikey> will it be public ?
[06:28] <luke83> no just for some schools in africa
[06:29] <luke83> they don't have internet and i have to take along everything i need there...
[06:29] <intelikey> then i souldn't think so   but leaving out the source  you need to link to some place that they can get the source   else you violate the  gnu-gpl
[06:30] <intelikey> not that anyone will sue   but i'm all for playing by the rules if posslbe
[06:30] <intelikey> possable  even
[06:31] <ardchoille> s/possable/possible/
[06:31] <intelikey> source code is the foundational eliment of  gnu-gpl
[06:31] <intelikey> keep it free
[06:31] <luke83> ok :)
[06:31] <andrew1> grrrr how do I save it in nano?
[06:31] <andrew1> when I edit menu.lst
[06:32] <intelikey> ctrl+X
[06:32] <luke83> ctrl - w
[06:32] <ardchoille> did you start nano with sudo?
[06:32] <intelikey> read the bottom three lines
[06:32] <andrew1> yea
[06:32] <intelikey> luke83 W or O  ?
[06:32] <andrew1> well I typed ^X but nothing happend but I'll just pressed what yall said to...
[06:32] <dope> what's the command to look at how much space is on the harddrive
[06:33] <luke83> oops, -O yes
[06:33] <intelikey> andrew1   the carrot '^' means the control key
[06:33] <andrew1> ooooo ok
[06:33] <andrew1> well dawgon why cant they say ctrl
[06:33] <intelikey> carrot or rafter   what ever you call it...
[06:34] <andrew1> yea i kno what the carrot is
[06:34] <miles> give the drummer something
[06:34] <luke83> ok, thanks and good night.
[06:34] <luke83> exit
[06:34] <intelikey> andrew1   lol     there are other oddities you'll have to get used too if you use linux much  :)
[06:35] <andrew1> lol
[06:35] <andrew1> ok yea what button is M-
[06:36] <andrew1> shift or something?
[06:36] <intelikey> heh   ^M    return key
[06:36] <andrew1> well i mean to backup file
[06:36] <andrew1> M-B
[06:36] <miles> what i want to know is...in beryl, what is the <Super> key?!
[06:36] <intelikey> meta   alt
[06:36] <andrew1> what do I press for M-B...
[06:36] <andrew1> oo so press alt+B?
[06:36] <Biovore> yeah.. windows does linefeed/carage return...  Unix just does linefeed and mac does just CR..  (Man someone make up there mind!!)
[06:37] <Daisuke-Ido> your "windows logo" key is <Super>
[06:37] <intelikey> miles ctrl ?
[06:37] <ShockValue> ok, xover question.. i used to use dvddecrypter to rip the VOB files (of movies I own) from the dvd's to my HD.  what can do that in linux?
[06:37] <intelikey> Daisuke-Ido hmmm   depend on the mapping or is that default ?
[06:37] <Biovore> ShockValue: yes
[06:37] <Biovore> ShockValue: mplayer/mencoder can do it.. (all from the command line)
[06:38] <Daisuke-Ido> intelikey: i *think* that's default but i won't swear to it
[06:38] <andrew1> grr im lost >.< whats the difference between Append and Prepend? lol isn't Append the oen I need to hit to write the backup file?
[06:38] <raylu> append = at end, prepend = at beginning
[06:38] <intelikey> k   i'm not in a gui enough to know what default is...  so i ws just asking
[06:38] <Daisuke-Ido> append writes to the end, prepe... he got to it first
[06:38] <raylu> lol :P
[06:38] <intelikey> andrew1   a=after pre=before
[06:38] <andrew1> ... dang ok lol Im guessing "To Files" means to write the file? cuz there aint nothing else I can press...
[06:40] <andrew1> grrr....how do I save it again?
[06:40] <intelikey> ^X
[06:40] <andrew1> yea and after that
[06:40] <andrew1> i said y
[06:40] <intelikey> and enter
[06:41] <andrew1> then it went to "File Name to Write: /boot/grub/menu.lst"
[06:41] <intelikey> [return]
[06:41] <intelikey> [enter]
[06:41] <andrew1> oo i never thought that would be so simple
[06:41] <andrew1> lol i figured id have to press something like ^write or something....
[06:42] <andrew1> sweeet alright thanks for your help guys, even though that was such a simple task...XD
[06:42] <intelikey> andrew1 welcome,   come back when you have more interesting questions..
[06:42] <intelikey> late.
[06:43] <intelikey> /nick .*
[06:43] <miles> andrew1 loves non-gui text eds
[06:43] <Daisuke-Ido> why not just kdesu into kate and do it the really easy way? :D
[06:44] <intelikey> he may not have been in a gui ?     idk
[06:44] <Daisuke-Ido> i understand the value in learning vi and/or emacs, but damn...
[06:44] <epimeth> wow... I actually connected... yay!
[06:44] <epimeth> ahoy! :-)
[06:44] <intelikey> he was presented with both options and chose the cli way
[06:44] <intelikey> epimeth .
[06:45] <epimeth> intelikey, Daisuke-Ido.
[06:45] <Daisuke-Ido> epimeth:
[06:45] <Daisuke-Ido> greetings and salutations
[06:45] <epimeth> gmorning ;-)
[06:45] <miles> is there a cli irc client for kde?
[06:45] <miles> i wanna try it
[06:46] <Daisuke-Ido> miles: irssi
[06:46] <intelikey> heh that's non-sensical miles     a cli anything wont be for kde    heh
[06:46] <epimeth> miles: 'cli' and 'for kde' are opposites amigo... but yes, like Daisuke-Ido said... irssi
[06:46] <miles> true...
[06:46] <Daisuke-Ido> i took that as "for linux"
[06:46] <lopin_> Anyone know how to get the wifi working in kubuntu, cause I'm lost...
[06:46] <miles> well...you know how konversation is native to kde
[06:46] <Daisuke-Ido> miles: yeah, but it's a gui app
[06:46] <miles> i didnt know if a cli component existed
[06:46] <intelikey> miles bitchx  irssi  epic  xchat-text   and probably others
[06:47] <miles> bitchx pwnz cuz of its name
[06:47] <intelikey> well i don't like the name   but that is what i use
[06:47] <Daisuke-Ido> although using ncurses, irssi technically has a gui (i remember this argument from the other day with aptitude) but it's very very basic
[06:48] <epimeth> tho I'm at a loss as to why anyone would want to use a cli irc client?  If you *had* to then I can understand... but want? *shudder*
[06:48] <epimeth> heh.... ncurses = gui, eh?
[06:48] <intelikey> epimeth how about "i don't use a gui"
[06:48] <Daisuke-Ido> epimeth: irssi is extremely flexible and infinitely extensible.  there's no reason to NOT want to use it :D
[06:48] <Daisuke-Ido> (disclaimer, i don't use it)
[06:48] <epimeth> intelikey: in which case, you *have* to use the cli, so I'm okay with it! :-)
[06:49] <Daisuke-Ido> epimeth: he doesn't have to, he could choose to use a gui and gui client :P
[06:49] <Daisuke-Ido> he chooses not to :D
[06:49] <tommymann> can someone help me with an external that's not automatically showing up
[06:49] <intelikey> epimeth actually it choice.   xorg is installed    just not running
[06:49] <intelikey> it si
[06:49] <intelikey> it is
[06:49] <tommymann> the fstab file is blank even
[06:50] <tommymann> mtab doesn't show /dev/sdb/
[06:50] <tommymann> anyone have any experience with externals
[06:50] <tommymann> or where to go to learn how to add drive to fstab
[06:50] <intelikey> tommymann mtab only shows what is mounted     less a few things
[06:50] <tommymann> oh well that's good to know
[06:50] <intelikey> tommymann you want it by device or blkid ?
[06:51] <tommymann> I don't know
[06:51] <tommymann> I can see sdb in the filesystem
[06:51] <tommymann> but it won't mount with the mount command
[06:52] <intelikey> tommymann issue command    blkid | grep sdb
[06:52] <intelikey> show output
[06:53] <tommymann> I don't remember how to do the straight up and down symbol
[06:53] <tommymann> in between blkid and grep
[06:54] <tommymann> I'm working on my girlfriends laptop so I can't cut and paste
[06:54] <intelikey> copy and paste it into the konsole
[06:54] <intelikey> why not ?
[06:54] <tommymann> I'm on two computers
[06:54] <intelikey> oh.
[06:54] <tommymann> it mounts automagically in mine
[06:54] <intelikey> the pipe is normally shift of the back slash
[06:54] <tommymann> got it
[06:55] <tommymann> dev/sdb1/ type "ntfs"
[06:55] <intelikey> and the blkid is ?
[06:55] <tommymann> it gave me nothing
[06:55] <tommymann> that's it
[06:56] <intelikey> hmmm ok we'll have to use device.
[06:56] <intelikey> sudo nano /etc/fstab
[06:57] <intelikey> /dev/sdb1 /media/sdb1 ntfs-3g auto,fmask=111,dmask=000 0 0
[06:57] <tommymann> its only showing sda1 sda5 and scd0
[06:58] <tommymann> which is kub partition swap and cdrom
[06:58] <intelikey> add that line  ^
[06:59] <intelikey> then save and exit     then install   ntfs-3g
[06:59] <intelikey> !ntfs-3g
[06:59] <ubotu> ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[06:59] <intelikey> and you are all set.
[06:59] <intelikey> we hope.
[06:59] <tommymann>  /dev/sdb1 /media/sdb1 ntfs-3g auto,fmask=111,dmask=000 0 0
[07:00] <intelikey> yes   add that in the fstab
[07:00] <tommymann> how do you add a line in this thing
[07:00] <jonathan_> hello
[07:00] <emily_> intelikey this is tommymann on his girlfriends computer
[07:00] <jonathan_> kubuntu installed!!
[07:00] <intelikey> tommymann possion the cursor   and start typing ???
[07:01] <emily_> this will probably be easier
[07:01] <jonathan_> but there's one prob, I can't access my data hdd
[07:01] <intelikey> jonathan_ format ?
[07:01] <intelikey> !ntfs | jonathan_
[07:01] <ubotu> jonathan_: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[07:01] <jonathan_> nope
[07:02] <jonathan_> using apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[07:02] <tommymann> how do you save this thing
[07:02] <tommymann> I normally edit in kate
[07:02] <jonathan_> yes, ntfs format
[07:02] <intelikey> tommymann control + x
[07:02] <jonathan_> I have 3 hdd
[07:03] <jonathan_> 1 for ubuntu, 1 for xp, and one for data
[07:03] <tommymann> awesp,e
[07:03] <jonathan_> both xp and data must be ntfs
[07:03] <tommymann> awesome
[07:03] <jonathan_> I can't access my data hdd now
[07:03] <intelikey> jonathan_ ok so read the link ubotu spit at you
[07:05] <jonathan_> ok
[07:07] <jonathan_> well than
[07:07] <jonathan_> I prob solved
[07:07] <jonathan_> all prob solved
[07:08] <intelikey> good on ya then
[07:08] <tommymann> intelikey I still have got nothing
[07:08] <tommymann> can't find /dev/sdb
[07:08] <intelikey> tommymann did you install ntfs-3g ?
[07:08] <tommymann> yes
[07:09] <intelikey> tommymann dev/sdb ?    it's  dev/sdb1
[07:09] <intelikey> sudo mount /dev/sdb1
[07:10] <tommymann> ntfs logfile unclean
[07:10] <joje> sudo bash diskmounter
[07:10] <intelikey> ohhh yuch.    get in windows and  scandisk that bad boy
[07:10] <emily_> $LogFile indicates unclean shutdown (0, 0)
[07:10] <emily_> Failed to mount '/dev/sdb1': Operation not supported
[07:10] <emily_> Mount is denied because NTFS logfile is unclean. Choose one action:
[07:10] <emily_>    Boot Windows and shutdown it cleanly, or if you have a removable
[07:10] <emily_>    device then click the 'Safely Remove Hardware' icon in the Windows
[07:10] <emily_>    taskbar notification area before disconnecting it.
[07:10] <emily_> Or
[07:10] <emily_>    Run ntfsfix version 1.13.1 on Linux unless you have Vista.
[07:10] <emily_> Or
[07:10] <emily_>    Mount the NTFS volume with the 'ro' option in read-only mode.
[07:11] <intelikey> ohhh yuch.    get in windows and  scandisk that bad boy
[07:11] <tommymann> damn
[07:11] <intelikey> emily_    get in windows and  scandisk  that bad boy    fix errors   then it should mount.
[07:12] <tommymann> what is ntfsfix
[07:12] <intelikey> yeh   the newer scandisk
[07:12] <tommymann> shit
[07:13] <intelikey> i think  they went  chkdisk   scandisk  chkdisk ntfsfix     iirc
[07:13] <intelikey> i haven't liked/used/tolerated windows in years
[07:15] <evilmm> i cut the cord on windows completely on windows with 6.06
[07:17] <intelikey> ok fellows that's all for me
[07:17] <intelikey> gooday and god bless
[07:19] <inteliwasp> what is the command to reset xorg.conf?
[07:21] <t00na> i can't get my mic to work...
[07:21] <t00na> it was working on Odeo a second ago, but when I tried messing with KMix, it stopped working!
[07:22] <inteliwasp> t00na: is it muted?
[07:22] <inteliwasp> t00na: check the status lights in kmix and unmute it, then it will work
[07:24] <t00na> i turned on the green lights for Line-in and Microphone
[07:24] <t00na> niether seem to work
[07:25] <inteliwasp> well i am in console mode at the moment but anve you tried the red lights?
[07:25] <t00na> yes, i tried one on Line-in and then on Microphone
[07:25] <t00na> niether worked.
[07:25] <inteliwasp> does it still work in that program you were useing?
[07:26] <t00na> it doesn't work in KRec, no
[07:27] <t00na> nor in Odeo
[07:27] <ubunter> hello world
[07:27] <t00na> the world greets you, ubunter
[07:28] <internet24> l
[07:28] <internet24> j[
[07:28] <ubunter> thanx you world
[07:28] <inteliwasp> t00na: well i cant think anymore and i think most of the others are asleep, you might want to ask again later
[07:28] <world> You're welcome
[07:29] <t00na> inteliwasp: i was just told on #linuxactionshow that there's a nice Ubuntu Wiki article on this, so i'll look there
[07:29] <t00na> but thanks
[07:30] <Darkrift> what can i use to kill a ntfs partition, and if that was the main boot partition, will that kill grub?
[07:30] <Darkrift> gparted wont touch it
[07:30] <dvm> Is it possible to use grid in GTK to display the datas from DB?
[07:36] <Banksey> Hi all, I have a problem with Juk, When I try to play a song, Nothing happens, I have all the Codecs, And songs play perfectly on Amarok, Any help would be much apprciated.
[07:37] <esteban_> hola
[07:40] <Solifugus> Where is the printer queue utility?
[07:40] <internet24_> vta
[07:40] <Solifugus> dont know what vta means
[07:48] <dionik> ciao a tutti
[07:59] <ciacon> Hi all... I havn't restarted my Computer in about 2 weeks by now... I was wondering why my BIOS-Clock has a fairly heavy skew (sometimes up to 15miinutes/day)... I first realised this after a few "ntpdate" calls.... How can this occure??
[08:00] <K-Ryan> it's too fast or slow
[08:00] <K-Ryan> i don't think there's much you could do about that
[08:01] <miles> do you guys get paid to be here?
[08:01] <ciacon> it used to be like a minute per per week... now it is like 10 minutes to slow per day!
[08:02] <miles> it loves life
[08:02] <ciacon> what also worries me, as, it could be the BIOS-Battery - will my box reboot?
[08:05] <xero> how do i run "sudo martian_modem /dev/modem" then hide the shell?
[08:05] <Miltos01> hi ppl:-)
[08:06] <sonoftheclayr> xero: put & at the end of it
[08:06] <xero> ok so & will hide the shell after execution?
[08:06] <Miltos01> i made a blundder! i reinstalled nvidia drivers (replacing new) and now kde can't start? pls help!!!
[08:07] <sonoftheclayr> xero: it will bring the prompt up again so you can close it
[08:07] <xero> the process must contenue running...
[08:08] <sonoftheclayr> xero: it will
[08:08] <xero> sweet
[08:08] <xero> thanks
[08:08] <sonoftheclayr> np
[08:09] <xero> im gonna try it... but im gonna have to disconnect, so i will be back
[08:09] <Fragility> does anyone know of a good program that could analyze as many things about my computer as possible
[08:10] <Fragility> I'm having some complex problems and would love more data about the integrity of various devices
[08:11] <xero> no cigar...
[08:12] <Darkrift> anyone know how to get djvu support in firefox?
[08:12] <xero> ok l guess ill explain more in detail. i have a shortcut on my desktop that runs this in a shell... it asks for the root passwd, then maps my modem to /dev/modem
[08:12] <Darkrift> ive been going in circles for 35 mins
[08:13] <Darkrift> firefox plugin for linux takes you to a lib page, that page has an instaler that doesnt install a firefox plugin, and so on....
[08:13] <sonoftheclayr> xero: try kdesu instead of sudo and don't run it in a shell
[08:13] <xero> ok
[08:14] <xero> ill be back i guess... gotta test
[08:16] <xero> sonoftheclayr you are awesome!
[08:16] <xero> now... how do i get kppp to load after that
[08:17] <xero> its gotta be oneclick... (for my grandmother)
[08:17] <Fragility> for some reason things seem to take a long time to load on the command line
[08:17] <Fragility> like when I open it up it takes a very long time for my name and computer to show
[08:18] <Fragility> what type of failure would cause that?
[08:18] <ciacon> can I use KPPP for ADSL?
[08:20] <Darkrift> i guess nobody knows
[08:21] <wepiha> hello. I have a network bridge script I want to be run (as root, or whatever) startup, where would I put said script?
[08:21] <wepiha> *at startup
[08:21] <xero> darkrift: im looking
[08:22] <destynova> what part of the xorg.conf defines the resolution?
[08:22] <Darkrift> normally the part at the bottom
[08:22] <Darkrift> it will have a lsit of res's
[08:23] <destynova> do i just retype the resolution?
[08:23] <destynova> i need 1440X900
[08:23] <Darkrift> i added a new one because my widescreen res wasnt in there
[08:23] <Darkrift> so i added one in the same format as the rest
[08:24] <destynova> at the top?
[08:24] <Darkrift> hold on
[08:24] <xero> darkrift: what exactly have you installed for djvu?
[08:24] <wepiha> destynova: you should be looking in the Section "Screen"
[08:25] <destynova> okies i see that
[08:25] <Darkrift> 		Modes		"1024x768"	"800x600"	"640x480"
[08:25] <Darkrift> thats how my old line was
[08:25] <Darkrift> the new one is
[08:25] <xero> destynova: at the top of xorg.conf theres a command to reconfigure your xorg.conf
[08:25] <Darkrift> 		Modes		"1280x800"	"1024x768"	"800x600"	"640x480"
[08:25] <xero> its safer
[08:26] <Darkrift> mine didnt detect the widescreen res properly
[08:26] <Darkrift> so someone in here told me how to edit it
[08:27] <xero> ohi was told to usethe wizard... oh well its all the same
[08:27] <destynova> how do i get to the  wizard?
[08:27] <xero> its in the notes at tghe top
[08:27] <xero> you know all of the #'s?
[08:28] <luca> hi everyone
[08:28] <K-Ryan> hi luca
[08:28] <luca> does anyone here have very buggering issues with system tray and compiz fusion? :)
[08:28] <luca> (and maybe also with knetworkmanager)
[08:28] <K-Ryan> You can try #ubuntu-effects
[08:29] <K-Ryan> Your best bet is in there
[08:29] <luca> same issues, but compiz fusion works better ;)
[08:29] <destynova> how do i edit the xorg.conf?
[08:29] <luca> oh sorry channel
[08:29] <luca> thx :)
[08:29] <K-Ryan> luca: You can ask in here
[08:29] <destynova> buffer is readonly
[08:29] <K-Ryan> You'll just get a better response in there
[08:29] <luca> destynova: kdesu kate /etc/X11/xorg.conf - but WHY?
[08:29] <luca> K-Ryan ok thx :D
[08:29] <Darkrift> xero, nevermind, i found a viewer that works good enough
[08:30] <xero> ok
[08:30] <destynova> i'm trying t change my default res in xorg.conf with emacs
[08:30] <Darkrift> id use kate
[08:30] <Darkrift> easier
[08:30] <K-Ryan> default res can be set in system settings
[08:30] <Darkrift> sudo kate /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[08:30] <xero> sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg
[08:30] <K-Ryan> Darkrift: Depends on the person, I like nano for instance
[08:30] <K-Ryan> Dark: kdesu kate
[08:31] <K-Ryan> !sudo
[08:31] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[08:31] <Darkrift> but still, kate is easier tehn emacs
[08:31] <K-Ryan> !kdesu
[08:31] <ubotu> In KDE, use  kdesu  to run graphical applications with root privileges when you have to. Do *not* use  sudo <GUI application> ; you can muck up your permissions/config files. For what to use in GNOME, see !gksudo
[08:31] <luca> btw, I have some issues with knetworkmanager
[08:31] <K-Ryan> Darkrift: He might be used to it and or wants to use it
[08:31] <Darkrift> i c
[08:31] <luca> often when I boot it crashes and I am forced to kill and reopen the application :(
[08:32] <Darkrift> ok, sorry, destynova do as you wish, because yo might be used to doing it that way
[08:32] <meuhlol> what application you need to reboot?
[08:32] <K-Ryan> Darkrift: If he were using nano, I could understand you saying that, but people usually don't use emacs by accident.
[08:32] <luca> knetworkmanager
[08:33] <luca> sometimes it stops dead, does not even show in the tray
[08:33] <luca> mostly when I boot
[08:33] <Darkrift> K-Ryan, I installed emacs because i was told to use it due to the syntax highliting, then i found how much of a pita it is, and that kate supports syntax highliting too
[08:34] <Darkrift> so i sorta ended up using it by accident
[08:34] <K-Ryan> Darkrift: Well that's good for coding
[08:34] <luca> kate is great IMHO :D not using any other text editor (and I am no programmer, but it's still great :) )
[08:34] <K-Ryan> But he's just modifying his xorg.conf, he just needs basic editing.
[08:37] <destynova> now everything is really huge!
[08:39] <Miltos01> i made a blundder! i reinstalled nvidia drivers (replacing new) and now kde can't start? pls help!!!
[08:42] <destynova> yay now i'm stuck at 800x600!
[08:43] <meuhlol> xorg.conf edited?
[08:43] <destynova> nah from the system setting menu
[08:44] <meuhlol> what grafic card you are? nvidia?
[08:44] <meuhlol> if so i maybe can help you, if ati i can't probably :/
[08:45] <destynova> nvidia
[08:46] <meuhlol> open an konsole
[08:46] <meuhlol> and try that: sudo nvidia-settings
[08:47] <_Iamda> !list
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[08:48] <destynova> ok a thingy popedup
[08:48] <meuhlol> destynova: can you change your res in nvidia-settings?
[08:48] <destynova> and i got some errors
[08:48] <destynova> nope
[08:49] <meuhlol> reinstall drivers ;)
[08:49] <destynova> i did it thru the add/remove programs thingy
[08:51] <meuhlol> do it manually
[08:51] <meuhlol> via a console
[08:51] <destynova> itsa nvidia 6100
[08:51] <destynova> intigrated
[08:53] <destynova> does my processor effect my video drivers
[08:53] <destynova> i'm running a 32 bit os ona 64bit amd
[08:54] <Darkrift> me too
[08:54] <Darkrift> seems to work fine
[08:54] <destynova> so i get linux ia32?
[08:57] <meuhlol> destynova: proc not affect your grafik gard
[08:57] <meuhlol> destynova: wait
[08:57] <destynova> i got sumthin called .run
[08:57] <meuhlol> destynova: you have amd 64?
[08:57] <destynova> yeah
[08:58] <meuhlol> okey, did you installed linux-k7 ?
[08:58] <destynova> i dunno what that is
[08:58] <destynova> i'm on kubuntu 32 bit
[08:58] <meuhlol> oh
[08:59] <meuhlol> do that (follow me)
[08:59] <meuhlol> sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.backup
[08:59] <Miltos01> i made a blundder! i reinstalled nvidia drivers (replacing new) and now kde can't start? pls help!!!
[08:59] <Darkrift> would if i could Miltos01
[08:59] <meuhlol> sudo aptitude install nvidia-glx
[09:00] <meuhlol> sudo aptitude install linux-restricted-modules-$(uname -r)
[09:00] <meuhlol> sudo nvidia-xconfig
[09:00] <Miltos01> meuhlol...thanks, i will try...
[09:00] <meuhlol> destynova: and after restart
[09:00] <vzduch> destynova: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg -> pick the nvidia driver, choose the correct resolutions your monitor can handle and, preferrably, use the Advanced setting for your monitor frequencies, you can enter them directly there and all will be fine :)
[09:01] <meuhlol> vzduch: nice too :)
[09:04] <meuhlol> !list
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[09:04] <destynova> ok i did all that
[09:04] <destynova> but havnt restarted yet
[09:05] <vzduch> ok, then restart X
[09:05] <Miltos01> meuhlol...nothing...
[09:05] <meuhlol> ctrl + alt + return
[09:05] <meuhlol> Miltos01: restart xorg
[09:05] <Miltos01> meyhlol, how?
[09:06] <vzduch> meuhlol: no.. either Ctrl + Alt + Backspace (kill) or 'sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart' (clean)
[09:06] <meuhlol> Miltos01: ctrl + alt + <---
[09:07] <Miltos01> meuhlol, i the system freezes on kubuntu logo, i can't get to command line!
[09:07] <sonoftheclayr> i'm having some troubles with the nvidia drivers. Every now and again X will just restart, usually when i'm doing something. it just did it twice in about 10 minutes. can anyone help?
[09:08] <meuhlol> ctrl + alt +f1
[09:08] <meuhlol> edit xorg.conf
[09:08] <meuhlol> in a safe mode
[09:08] <meuhlol> i have to go, sorry
[09:08] <vzduch> o0
[09:09] <Miltos01> meyhlol, ok now i am on the command line, how to edit xorg.conf?
[09:09] <vzduch> Miltos01: e.g. 'sudo nano -w /etc/X11/xorg.conf'
[09:09] <Miltos01> vzduch ok...and thanks
[09:09] <Ze_M> Riddell: ping
[09:09] <destynova> ok i have restarted
[09:10] <vzduch> destynova: now you should be able to properly adjust your resolution
[09:10] <vzduch> if it doesn't already show, that is
[09:11] <shaneed> hai everybody
[09:11] <destynova> how do i get back to that nvidia x config thingy?
[09:12] <shaneed> join
[09:12] <vzduch> destynova: you mean 'sudo nvidia-xconfig' (iirc)?
[09:13] <Miltos01> vzduch, what to edit?
[09:14] <destynova> the little progy that poped up
[09:14] <shaneed_> jsdfk
[09:15] <shaneed_> hai anybody know how to install kde4 in feisty
[09:16] <destynova> damn...
[09:16] <vzduch> Miltos01: compare your Device section w/ this --> http://pastebin.kubuntu-de.org/1755 - 'Identifier' is the name of your gfx card and can be set ad libitum
[09:17] <destynova> i got lost somehow
[09:18] <Darkrift> same problem still destynova ?
[09:19] <Miltos01> vzduch, thank you very much, problem solved!!! i replaced nvidia with vesa, and now i now what should i do (i hope)!!!
[09:19] <comodo> can someonee tell me how to check for direct rendering
[09:19] <destynova> now i cant get to the window to change  my res :(
[09:19] <Darkrift> you added in the new res?
[09:19] <Darkrift> as the first one on the line?
[09:20] <destynova> no i havnt edited the xorg.conf yet
[09:21] <Darkrift> for me, i edited the conf, then i restarted x (the sloppy way ctrl+alt+backspace) and it booted with the correct res
[09:21] <Darkrift> thats how easy it was
[09:21] <Darkrift> and someone in here told me how to do it, so i assume its somewhat safe if you do it properly
[09:21] <destynova> i tried to edit it but it told me it was read only
[09:21] <Darkrift> just add "****x****"tab
[09:21] <Darkrift> yeah, yo have to open it as root
[09:21] <Darkrift> kdesu kate /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[09:21] <Darkrift> try that
[09:22] <Darkrift> you should be able to save it as root
[09:22] <Darkrift> and....
[09:22] <Darkrift> kate will make an automatic backup called xorg.conf~ ( i think )
[09:22] <Darkrift> so if you crash, use command line to fix it
[09:22] <Darkrift> restore the backup and you can try again
[09:24] <destynova> my xorg.conf looks totally diff now
[09:24] <destynova> :(
[09:24] <Darkrift> its ok
[09:24] <Darkrift> just find the highest bit section
[09:24] <Darkrift> 		Depth	24
[09:24] <Darkrift> look for the line right under that
[09:25] <Ze_M> to whos running kde-3.5.7, when running kcmshell clock doest it appear servers to sincronize the hour?
[09:25] <Darkrift> because i think 24bit depth is the default
[09:25] <Darkrift> i am rnning 3.5.7
[09:25] <Darkrift> what is kcmshell?
[09:26] <comodo> i have a small problem i have nvidia drivers working and beryl but when i start it up the bar on top of windows disapers the one that has minimize maxamize and everything
[09:26] <Ze_M> run in konsole sudo kcmshell clock
[09:26] <Darkrift> thats your windows decorations comodo
[09:26] <Ze_M> darkkish: you do know whats konsole right?
[09:26] <Darkrift> right click on the berl icon and try to "reload window decorator"
[09:26] <Ze_M> mean Darkrift
[09:26] <Darkrift> if that doesnt work, try to reload your window manager
[09:26] <Darkrift> yes, lemme try Ze_M
[09:27] <destynova> gonna reboot
[09:27] <Darkrift> ok, ran it
[09:27] <Darkrift> the clock config opened
[09:27] <Diki> Quick question: What is Konversation's default install path?
[09:28] <Darkrift> seems to work Ze_M
[09:28] <Ze_M> Darkrift: read what i asked
[09:28] <Ze_M> [08:26:05]  <Ze_M> to whos running kde-3.5.7, when running kcmshell clock doest it appear servers to sincronize the hour?
[09:29] <Darkrift> i see it, but dont understnad the q
[09:29] <Darkrift> when i resized the window, i see the "administrator mode" button
[09:29] <Darkrift> if i click on that, i can "auto adjust time and date"
[09:29] <Darkrift> then i can change servers to sync to
[09:29] <Ze_M> Darkrift: do you see any options or fileds to select any servers?
[09:29] <Darkrift> yes
[09:29] <Darkrift> right above the clock
[09:29] <Ze_M> ok
[09:29] <Darkrift> but you need admin mode to do it
[09:29] <vzduch> Ze_M: don't run X programs from terminal w/ sudo, it can mess up your permissions.. that's what kdesu is for
[09:29] <Ze_M> at last
[09:29] <Darkrift> yeah, i just learned that tonight
[09:30] <Ze_M> vzduch: you can say that to newbies
[09:30] <Darkrift> i didnt know kdesu worked in konsole
[09:30] <Darkrift> so i always went to the stupid run dialog to do it
[09:30] <Ze_M> run kdesu konqueror
[09:30] <vzduch> [09:26:32]  < Ze_M> run in konsole sudo kcmshell clock <-- I think it was you who said that ;)
[09:31] <Ze_M> you can run it konsole or by clicking alt+f2
[09:31] <Ze_M> vzduch: so?
[09:32] <Ze_M> better go packaging dkms alsa
[09:32] <Ze_M> than enter in this discussion...
[09:33] <Darkrift> how do i change the look of the bash prompt?
[09:34] <Darkrift> i did it years ago on freebsd, but dont remember how
[09:34] <Ze_M> Darkrift: change bashrc
[09:34] <vzduch> Ze_M: you can package whatever you wish, if you give what I perceive to be bad advice to n00bs I can say that :)
[09:35] <Darkrift> lol
[09:35] <Ze_M> vzduch: as i said i will not discuss any with you but no one gaved any advice, just told Darkrift to try it
[09:35] <Ze_M> and newboes must start learning at some point, and many want to learn
[09:35] <Darkrift> wb destynova, did it work?
[09:35] <destynova> tnx for the help everyone
[09:36] <destynova> nah
[09:36] <destynova> still fecked up
[09:36] <Darkrift> damn
[09:36] <Darkrift> that sucks
[09:36] <Darkrift> worked great for me
[09:37] <Ze_M> Darkrift: you another way to change prompt
[09:37] <destynova> agian,   tnx for all your efforts i'm gonna call it a night and try agian tomorow
[09:37] <Darkrift> good luck
[09:37] <Ze_M> Darkrift: create for example a file /etc/profile.d/newbash.sh
[09:37] <destynova> tnx :)
[09:38] <Ze_M> Darkrift: edit it, and enter;
[09:38] <Ze_M> #!/bin/sh
[09:38] <Ze_M> PS1="[\u@newbash \W] \\$ "
[09:38] <Ze_M> than run konsole and there you have it
[09:39] <Darkrift> cool
[09:43] <Darkrift> i wish i could scale my whole display to be smaller
[09:43] <Darkrift> like using a higher res would do
[09:43] <yeniklasor> Where can I see my 'cpu, ram..' (system hardware) ?
[09:44] <Ze_M> Darkrift: also easy
[09:45] <Ze_M> Darkrift: enter /etc/X11 and edit xresources, search for a line that says some like this: Xft.dpi: 90     and then put comment it bu putting a ! in the begining
[09:45] <Ze_M> Darkrift: or for example change the value 90 to 80
[09:46] <Ze_M> and its /etc/X11/Xresources, then logout
[09:46] <stephen> how do you see ram etc i wanna know too
[09:46] <Ze_M> stephen: run free in konsole
[09:47] <grul> cat /proc/cpuinfo
[09:47] <stephen> thx
[09:48] <yeniklasor> How can I check how much Ram and CPU I have?
[09:48] <Ze_M> grul: thats only for cpu
[09:48] <Darkrift> i dont have a file there, just a folder Ze_M
[09:48] <Ze_M> yeniklasor: just read the 2 lines before
[09:48] <Ze_M> Darkrift: where?
[09:48] <Darkrift> . /etc/X11/Xresources/
[09:49] <Darkrift> its a folder
[09:49] <stephen> sorry, one more thing, how do you change the resolution
[09:49] <Ze_M> Darkrift: show me the output of /etc/X11/
[09:49] <stephen> !pastebin
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[09:49] <Ze_M> stephen: run kcontrol and earch it
[09:50] <grul> well, free for ram, cat /proc/cpuinfo for cpu, df for hdds, lspci for most other devices
[09:50] <Ze_M> stephen: run kcontrol and search it
[09:50] <grul> i don't know any more commands for this purpose, heh
[09:50] <Darkrift> app-defaults  default-display-manager  rgb.txt  xinit  xorg1.conf  xorg.conf~  xorg.conf.backup  xserver   Xsession.d        XvMCConfig
[09:50] <Darkrift> cursors       fonts                    X        xkb    xorg.conf   xorg.conf!  Xresources        Xsession  Xsession.options  Xwrapper.config
[09:50] <Darkrift> was only 2 lines, figured pasting was safe
[09:50] <Ze_M> Darkrift: of course isnt here, paste in pastbin
[09:51] <stephen> what is kcontrol
[09:51] <stephen> ?
[09:51] <Ze_M> Darkrift: run ls -as /etc/X11
[09:51] <stephen> sorry ive only been on linux for 2 days
[09:51] <Ze_M> stephen: fo read docs
[09:51] <Ze_M> stephen: google is your friend
[09:51] <yeniklasor> grul : you are brilliant
[09:51] <yeniklasor> thanks
[09:52] <Ze_M> stephen: sorry but your simply too much green, cant help in that level, google
[09:52] <Darkrift> pastebin';d
[09:53] <stephen> simply too much green lol
[09:53] <stephen> ?
[09:53] <Darkrift> green = new
[09:53] <Darkrift> i believe
[09:54] <Ze_M> Darkrift: paste the output of ls -as /etc/X11   in pastebin.com
[09:54] <Darkrift> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/30076/
[09:55] <stephen> oh i see
[09:55] <stephen> lol
[09:55] <yeniklasor> What is the meaning of i686, i3** for cpu, isn't all these 32 bit?
[09:55] <grul> i686 is 64 bit if i'm not mistaken
[09:56] <sercik> nono
[09:56] <Darkrift> 586 was the first pentium i believe
[09:56] <Ze_M> darkkish: sorry, i mean ls -als /etc/X11
[09:56] <yeniklasor> my cpu 32 bit but kubuntu says i686
[09:56] <sercik> i686 is not 64 bit
[09:56] <grul> oh
[09:56] <Ze_M> yeniklasor: yes
[09:56] <sercik> i686 are the pentium 3 i think
[09:56] <yeniklasor> mine p4
[09:56] <sercik> p4 is 686
[09:56] <Ze_M> sercik: not quite
[09:57] <Darkrift> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/30077/
[09:57] <Darkrift> no
[09:57] <grul> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I686
[09:57] <Ze_M> 586, 686 are all for x86 that is 32 bit
[09:57] <Ze_M> about being p3 or p4 or other is another issue
[09:58] <Ze_M> darkkish: show me now ls -als /etc/X11/Xresources
[09:58] <Darkrift> i did
[09:58] <Darkrift> read up 5 lines
[09:58] <Darkrift> oh
[09:58] <Darkrift> i c
[09:58] <Darkrift> theres only one file in there
[09:59] <Ze_M> for example mandriva uses i586 for all 32bit
[09:59] <Ze_M> Darkrift: you showed ls -als /etc/X11, now im asking  ls -als /etc/X11/Xresources
[09:59] <Darkrift> 4 -rw-r--r--  1 root root  319 2007-02-13 03:02 x11-common
[09:59] <Darkrift> thats the only file in that folder
[10:00] <Ze_M> darkkish: show me the output of: grep -r Xft.dpi /etc/X11
[10:00] <Darkrift> there is no output
[10:01] <Ze_M> and grep -r dpi /etc/X11
[10:01] <Darkrift> !pastebin
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[10:01] <waylandbill> x86 meant that the 32-bit instruction set was backwards compatible with the 8086's 16-bit instruction set.
[10:01] <Darkrift> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/30078/
[10:01] <yeniklasor> Now how can I check in which speed is working my ram (400, 333...)?
[10:03] <stephen> cat /proc/cpuinfo
[10:03] <stephen> thats what i did earlier
[10:03] <stephen> it showed my ram and other stuff
[10:03] <Ze_M> Darkrift: seams kubuntu uses another file, i dont use kubuntu, i use mandriva, kubuntu its nothing more than a medium distro
[10:04] <grul> what do you mean by medium?
[10:04] <Ze_M> Darkrift: sorry that i cant help on this, maybe read some docs from kubuntu or ask some kubuntu developer
[10:04] <yeniklasor> stephen | I didn't see there about ram
[10:04] <stephen> :(
[10:04] <waylandbill> medium?
[10:04] <stephen> i cant remember what i did
[10:04] <yeniklasor> I can copy-paste if you want :D
[10:05] <Ze_M> grul: for example kubuntu doesnt have a panel to configure all aspects of the distro, in that point even windows wins to ubuntu k/x
[10:05] <waylandbill> If I count everything installable by apt, then I could say something about other distros not having the abiity to install as much. That seems a short fall in my book.
[10:06] <Ze_M> grul: still some important things to kubuntu so that can be considered a good distro
[10:06] <grul> I see
[10:07] <Ze_M> kubuntu is very known due to have guys with money that do a lot of punlicity
[10:07] <Ze_M> publicity*
[10:07] <Ze_M> thats all
[10:08] <yeniklasor> Kubuntu's file manager is not good (konqueror) :D