[01:56] <ToyKeeper> Hi.  Er, what's a good way to replay some revisions (but not all) into a new repo?  Like, if I wanted to build a new repo with only the odd-numbered revisions from and old repo?
[01:56] <ToyKeeper> (or more accurately, copy the history for some files but not all)
[01:58] <ToyKeeper> I don't care about preserving revision IDs, but I'd like to keep the original time stamps and commit messages and preferably info about the original committer.
[02:22] <bob2> is fastexport still a thing?
[02:33] <ToyKeeper> Yes, looks like fast-import / fast-export is still around, and includes a promising-looking filter command.
[02:33] <ToyKeeper> (much better than last time I tried to filter its output manually)
[02:44] <ToyKeeper> Now, if I can just get the fast-import command to produce a repo instead of a traceback...  I should be golden.  :)
[03:50] <jbowtie> I want to build a cache of metadata for my foreign VCS (tfs, of course) - can I just put it in a file/directory under .bzr?
[03:51] <lifeless> sure
[03:51] <lifeless> .bzr/tfs
[03:51] <lifeless> or
[03:51] <lifeless> there is a per-tree plugin namespace - IIRC its bzr-meta/ in the working tree
[03:52] <jbowtie> I know jelmer wanted to build something common for all the foreign VCS to leverage off of, but I've got a server that is giving me grief.
[04:05] <jbowtie> lifeless: thanks; figured it was so but just checking
[04:26] <spiv> Our version numbers in trunk seem a bit odd: doc/en/release-notes/bzr-2.3.txt says 'bzr 2.3b3', but __version__ in bzrlib/__init__.py says 2.3.0dev3
[07:42] <tenchi> Hi everyone
[07:43] <tenchi> Please help me: I updated a ubuntu server to which I connected with bzr explorer. I tried to push a new revision and got the following error:
[07:43] <tenchi> ssh_askpass: exec(/usr/bin/ssh-askpass): No such file or directory
[07:43] <tenchi> Permission denied, please try again.
[07:44] <tenchi> It was working allright before the update
[07:44] <tenchi> or is this missing on my computer?
[07:48] <tenchi> YEAH
[07:48] <tenchi> solved it
[07:48] <tenchi> thanks anyway
[08:18] <eagles0513875|2> hey guys :) quick question do i just install the bazaar package in the lucid repos and im good to go?
[08:32] <henninge> Hi!
[08:32] <henninge> What's this error message supposed to mean? I don't have a clue.
[08:32] <henninge> henning@dustpuppy:$ bzr branch lp:chromium-browser/translation chromium-browser
[08:32] <henninge> bzr: ERROR: Permission denied: "Cannot create 'translation'. Only Bazaar branches are allowed."
[08:33] <fullermd> I think lp: branches are usually 3-level.  lp:user/project/branch
[08:34] <henninge> fullermd: this is a series branch, I got the url straight off Launchpad
[08:34] <henninge> maybe that's the error, though
[08:34] <fullermd> Looks like.
[08:34] <fullermd> % bzr info lp:chromium-browser/translation
[08:34] <fullermd> bzr: ERROR: Permission denied: "Cannot create 'translation'. Only Bazaar branches are allowed."
[08:34] <henninge> fullermd: never mind, I missed a character while coping ...
[08:35]  * henninge feels silly
[08:35] <henninge> the branch is called lp:chromium-browser/translations
[08:36] <fullermd> Silly declensions.
[09:14] <eagles0513875|2> hey guys is there a portable client of bzr or a portable cli for bzr?
[09:16] <Tak> portable?
[09:17] <eagles0513875|2> Tak: something i could install on a pendrive
[09:17] <Tak> ah
[09:18] <eagles0513875|2> would somethign like that be easy to develop for those developers who are constantly on the move so to speak?
[09:21] <fullermd> Well, bzr by itself, as a pythong script, runs just fine out of a source tree.
[09:21] <eagles0513875|2> does one already exist or is it something that would need to be coded
[09:21] <fullermd> So on *nix it's trivial.
[09:22] <fullermd> I don't know how much difficulty bundling it up with an interpreter makes it.
[09:23] <luks> I think the windows package would work fine
[09:23] <luks> but you would need some batch file to set up env variables with the config file location
[09:24] <eagles0513875|2> im using launchpad to host my bzr but i have no way of pushing to it
[09:24] <eagles0513875|2> thats why im asking if there is a portable app
[09:26] <luks> https://answers.launchpad.net/bzr/+question/91004
[09:26] <luks> see the accepted answer
[09:27] <luks> the main idea is to set the BZR_HOME environment variable
[09:32] <eagles0513875|2> thanks luks :)
[09:32] <eagles0513875|2> will email that link to myself to setup when i get home
[11:06] <maxb> When I have a MP in Approved state, am I supposed to ask someone to land it if the reviewer didn't, or will someone deal with it presently anyway?
[11:14] <jelmer> maxb: The patch pilot will generally deal with it.
[11:14] <jelmer> I think spiv's out sick today though.
[15:10] <dash> it's really great that bzr-svn makes 'bzr merge' work in svn working copies
[15:11] <dash> it's not so great that it wants to fetch 180M+ from the svn server in order to make it work
[15:11] <dash> and doesn't seem to cache much
[15:13] <dash> ok 200M+
[16:20] <eagles0513875> hey guys if i install bzr on windows what would that allow me to do
[16:20] <eagles0513875> does that give me bzr command like push to my bzr repo on launchpad?
[16:30] <vila> eagles0513875: yes
[16:30] <eagles0513875> ok sweet thanks vila i thought it was to host on your own machine a bzr repo
[16:31] <vila> eagles0513875: well, that's only slightly harder than on *nix but possible too
[16:32] <eagles0513875> i would rather have it hosted on lp tbh
[16:37] <jelmer> dash: That's a disadvantage of lightweight checkouts (as svn working copies are)
[16:38] <jelmer> dash: imho caching would be a bad idea, it would mean that we basically turn the local working copy into a heavyweight checkout which seems besides the point.
[16:39] <jelmer> 'evening vila, eagles0513875
[16:39] <vila> jelmer: _o/
[16:39] <jelmer> vila: before you disappear, I wanted to ask you if you had any idea what's going on here: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/524514/
[16:40] <jelmer> I've been getting this error in bzr.dev for some time now
[16:41] <vila> jelmer: I'm disapearing ? (Working from an unsual place, will be back at home Thursday (but off tomorrow))
[16:42] <jelmer> vila: for dinner I mean :-)
[16:42] <vila> jelmer: Ha ! My favorite failing test :-(
[16:42] <vila> jelmer: maverick ?
[16:42] <jelmer> natty, I live on the edge
[16:42] <vila> jelmer: suffer from it then, kthkbye
[16:42] <vila> cough
[16:43] <vila> you're doomed until spiv provides a natty package from his PPA with his patch to paramiko
[16:43] <vila> jelmer: 90% sure
[16:43] <jelmer> ah, it's a paramiko bug?
[16:44] <vila> jelmer: if I'm right that's paramiko trying IPV6 when it should try IPV4 and wrongly failing
[16:45] <jelmer> vila: that would make sense as I have some amount of IPv6 set up here
[16:45] <vila> given that paramiko upstream still haven't take spiv's patch into account, I guess he'd better propose it for Ubuntu itself
[16:45] <jelmer> vila: do you know where his patch lives?
[16:45] <vila> jelmer: you don't have to to hit the bug :-(
[16:46] <vila> hmm, gimme a sec
[16:46] <vila> spiv's PPA: https://launchpad.net/~spiv/+archive/packaging-test
[16:48] <vila> bug #579530
[16:48] <vila> with associated branch
[16:50] <jelmer> vila: Much appreciated, thanks
[16:51] <vila> jelmer: let me know if it works for you or file a bug if it don't :-) I will add a natty slave on babune soon anyway so I *will* know too soon enough ;)
[17:00] <eagles0513875> hey gusy i have a question why does my bzr url say +junk in it ? bzr push lp:~eagles051387/+junk/BRANCHNAME
[17:01] <jpds> eagles0513875: Because it's not assigned to a registered project?
[17:02] <eagles0513875> ahh ok
[17:02] <eagles0513875> are there any restrictions to the types of projects one can register?
[17:06] <vila> eagles0513875: I'm sure this is fully answered on the lp site itself, but roughly, as long as it's free, it's allowed
[17:06] <vila> eagles0513875: https://launchpad.net/+tour and https://help.launchpad.net/ comes to mind
[17:07] <eagles0513875> ok will look
[17:09] <vila> eagles0513875: and don't get afraid by all the features, you can generally start by using only the ones you're interested in
[17:10] <eagles0513875> vila: ok question for you. licensing what would i need to do for that since im not goign to be releasing this under the gpl or any other open source license
[17:10] <vila> IANAL :)
[17:11] <eagles0513875> ?
[17:11]  * eagles0513875 confused as to there being a hidden innuendo
[17:11] <vila> I have no idea about what the default is in this case, if your code is public... anybody can download it, but you should still retain the copyrights even if you don't explicitly says so
[17:11] <mgz> you need to pay a fee to have a private, non-free launchpad branch
[17:11] <vila> I Am Not A Lawyer
[17:12] <eagles0513875> mgz: even if i dont register the project
[17:12] <eagles0513875> vila: wouldnt recommend saying IANAL not very family friendly :p
[17:12] <mgz> there are other places you can host code with bzr that don't cost anything, but you want fancy launchpad features but don't want to share your code, you need to pony up
[17:13] <vila> eagles0513875: well, I'm not a native engrish speaker but I've read the acronym in many places ;)
[17:13] <eagles0513875> lol vila
[17:13] <mgz> just sticking your project under ~me/+junk and hoping other people don't branch it might be okay, but the source is available then, you may as well include a clear license
[17:14] <eagles0513875> mgz: thats not my issue my issue is i would like to make some money off the project i have coded, so if i license it under the gpl i could charge people for support or something like that?
[17:16] <mgz> you could. personally, I'd *either* worry about money now and do business plan before code, *or* start hacking now and worry about how you'll get fed later.
[17:16] <eagles0513875> humm
[17:16] <eagles0513875> ok
[17:16] <vila> eagles0513875: hmm, yes you can, you can even charge them for selling your code, the GPL doesn't forbid that, it only requires that people can also get it for free, as amazing that it may sound, this has worked for decades
[17:16] <eagles0513875> ya
[17:17] <eagles0513875> i need to sit down and read the gpl
[17:17] <vila> mgz: by the way: hi ! :-) And bye, I'm off ;)
[17:17] <mgz> bye :)
[22:36] <peitschie> mornin everyone :)
[23:02] <spiv> Good morning!
[23:02] <jelmer> hey peitschie, spiv
[23:03] <spiv> jelmer: fwiw, I have submitted that paramiko fix to Ubuntu as well as upstream, but have got no response from either place :/
[23:03] <jelmer> spiv: oh, ok
[23:04] <peitschie> hi spiv, jelmer :)
[23:04] <jelmer> I didn't see it in the upstream bts so I filed it there again and I filed a bug in Debian
[23:04] <mgz> upstream paramiko were using launchpad for tracking bugs.
[23:04] <mgz> even after they git switched.
[23:05] <mgz> basically, the problem seems to be there is no more upstream.
[23:05] <spiv> jelmer: https://bugs.launchpad.net/paramiko/+bug/579530 https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/paramiko/+bug/638675
[23:05] <spiv> (I see your comment on the first one, justing listing here for completeness)
[23:05] <jelmer> spiv: upstream no longer uses launchpad though
[23:06] <mgz> nor "commit" apparently.
[23:07] <spiv> jelmer: well, http://github.com/robey/paramiko/ says to use Launchpad for bugs
[23:08] <jelmer> spiv: oh, I hadn't seen that. It has "issue tracking" enabled in the Github repo though
[23:08]  * jelmer is confused
[23:08] <spiv> Although I agree that as a matter of observed fact there doesn't seem to have been much activity on the Launchpad bug tracker...
[23:08] <spiv> jelmer: I think it's basically as mgz says: upstream is basically inactive
[23:09] <spiv> So the question of where the active bug tracker is is a bit academic.
[23:09] <jelmer> there have been 3 issues filed on the github repo in the last week (including mine)
[23:10] <jelmer> and robey's followed up there a couple of days ago
[23:12] <spiv> Hmm, but only about the website being down?
[23:12] <spiv> Still, some response is better than zero.
[23:13] <spiv> Meanwhile https://bugs.launchpad.net/paramiko is still accumulating bugs, most recent open bug filed less than 2 weeks ago...
[23:15] <jelmer> hmm
[23:30] <mrfrenzy> anyone here uses bazaar with zend? I really can't find any docs about integration
[23:31] <bob2> what is there to integrate?
[23:31] <mrfrenzy> there are nice plugins for svn and cvs that lets you do commits etc from within zend
[23:35] <AfC> system("bzr commit") ?


[13:37] <compromised> @_@
[13:37] <butiki> compromised: Error: "_@" is not a valid command.
[13:37] <compromised> !help
[13:37] <butiki> compromised: (help [<plugin>] [<command>]) -- This command gives a useful description of what <command> does. <plugin> is only necessary if the command is in more than one plugin.
[13:37] <compromised> supybot
[13:38] <compromised> :)
[13:44]  * arscariosus :D


[23:32] <cody-somerville> mpt: Hey, re: your comment on LP #930563
[23:32] <ubot2`> Launchpad bug 930563 in network-manager-applet (Ubuntu) "NM Applet menu entries not responding" [Low,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/930563
[23:32] <cody-somerville> mpt: Your grep results in the error response being suppressed.
[23:34] <cody-somerville> mpt: for example: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/1529451/
[23:34] <cody-somerville> mpt: Not sure if that changes your opinion of were the problem is but wanted to make sure you were aware.
[23:34] <cody-somerville> mpt: I run into this problem all the time so am happy to help debug.
[23:49] <cody-somerville> ah!
[23:49] <cody-somerville> mpt: I think LP #780602 is the culprit
[23:49] <ubot2`> Launchpad bug 780602 in OEM Priority Project precise "nm-applet leaks memory and stops functioning after a while" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/780602


[06:17] <chesedo> morning all
[06:52] <Xethron> Greetings
[07:42] <andrewlsd> morning all
[07:42]  * andrewlsd waves at chesedo superfly inetpro tumbleweed nuvolari_ paddatrapper
[07:43] <Kilos> hi andrewlsd Xethron and all others
[07:43] <Kilos> oh and inetpro
[07:43] <andrewlsd> Hi Kilos
[07:43] <paddatrapper> Morning andrewlsd, Kilos
[07:43] <Kilos> is it you with minetest on your lappy andrewlsd ?
[07:44] <Kilos> hi paddatrapper
[07:57] <andrewlsd> Kilos: yes, my laptop runs minetest service
[07:58] <Kilos> i tried to get in a few times with no success
[07:58] <andrewlsd> anyusername, default password is "mine"
[07:58] <andrewlsd> however, being a laptop, it isn't always online
[07:58] <Kilos> link again please
[07:58] <Kilos> oh yes thats most likely why
[07:58] <andrewlsd> karrimor.duckdns.org
[07:58] <andrewlsd> it is on now
[07:59] <Kilos> im just gonna bath then ill try
[07:59] <andrewlsd> current IP is <IP_ADDRESS>
[07:59] <Kilos> ty
[08:00]  * andrewlsd goes off to find coffee and a doughnut
[08:00]  * andrewlsd goes off to find coffee and a doughnought
[08:00]  * andrewlsd wonders about spelling.
[08:11] <Kilos> Maaz spell doughnut
[08:11] <Maaz> Kilos: Yes, you *can* spell
[08:12] <andrewlsd> a-maaz-ing
[08:13] <chesedo> lol
[08:14]  * andrewlsd does not like flat themes.
[08:14]  * andrewlsd cannot easily see window edges with flat themes
[08:14] <andrewlsd> It feels like a Friday.
[08:15] <andrewlsd> Maybe we can start a friday flamewar early
[08:28] <Xethron> Hello Kilos :)
[08:29] <Xethron> How goes?
[08:29] <Xethron> maaz spell yello
[08:29] <Maaz> Xethron: Suggestions: Yell, Yellow, Cello, Hello, Jell-O, yell, yellow, cello, hello or jello
[08:29] <Xethron> nice
[08:29] <Xethron> maaz spel Kilos
[08:29] <Maaz> Xethron: Huh?
[08:29] <Xethron> maaz spell Kilos
[08:29] <Maaz> Xethron: Yes, you *can* spell
[08:30] <Xethron> maaz spell Afrikaans
[08:30] <Maaz> Xethron: Yes, you *can* spell
[08:30] <Xethron> Smart bot
[09:22] <Kilos> Maaz botsnack
[09:22] <Maaz> YAY someone cares about me too!
[09:23] <Kilos> helloooo inetprooooooo
[10:02] <andrewlsd> Kilos: sorry, laptop got disconnected from wifi
[10:03] <andrewlsd> (temporarily, is back now)
[10:03] <andrewlsd> Maaz: Minetest is at karrimor.duckdns.org:30000 (30 thousand)
[10:03] <Maaz> andrewlsd: One learns a new thing every day
[10:13] <inetpro> oh my, hello world!
[10:13] <inetpro> and hi Kilos also
[10:14] <inetpro> Maaz: what's for lunch?
[10:14] <Maaz> inetpro: Go get Chippies, your friends will love you
[10:14] <inetpro> hm...
[10:28] <pavlushka> lol
[10:29] <pavlushka> inetpro: what you are cooking?
[10:30] <Kilos> night everyone, have a good day
[10:30] <Kilos> see you tomorrow
[10:30] <pavlushka> Kilos: I have pm ed you
[10:30] <pavlushka> and Good Night :)
[10:30] <Kilos> i see
[10:42] <chesedo> Maaz: you are be a genuis... if only my friends would ask you for advise
[10:42] <Maaz> chesedo: I already know stuff about you
[11:30] <inetpro> pavlushka: Steers! It just tastes better flame-grilled
[11:40] <pavlushka> inetpro: so you are not flame grilling it? sad :p
[12:42] <qwebirc2925> yoh


[15:21] <mips1911> anyone here working on 4.10?
[15:38] <bluesabre> By "working on", do you mean developing or using?
[15:39] <mips1911> bluesabre, no worries I sorted my problem out thanks. Somehow two apps loaded by default after login even though i had save session on logout disabled. I deleted the .caches/session files and all is well now.
[15:40] <mips1911> bluesabre, are you a dev?
[15:40] <bluesabre> Not really a dev, more of a tester
[15:41] <mips1911> ok, actually had a unrelated query for one the devs as well wrt to default font rending in xubuntu
[15:42] <bluesabre> Yup, can't help you there.  :D
[15:42] <mips1911> maybe I should just log a ticket in launchpad
[15:43] <mips1911> bluesabre, are you happy with your fonts in xubuntu?
[15:43] <bluesabre> Yeah, I've no problem with them.  Everything is nice and crisp.
[15:44] <mips1911> you can make them better. The dafault font rendering is not the same as that of ubuntu.
[15:44] <bluesabre> The fonts actually look better than Ubuntu on my laptop
[15:45] <bluesabre> I guess I'm lucky
[15:45] <bluesabre> lol
[15:45] <mips1911> try this, you could always remove it afterwards:  xfconf-query -c xsettings -p /Xft/Lcdfilter -n -t string -s lcddefault
[15:46] <bluesabre> k, brb
[15:46] <mips1911> xubuntu does not even specify that option and it makes a BIG difference
[15:49] <bluesabre> Don't really see much of a difference
[15:50] <mips1911> are you using the default xubuntu font setup?
[15:51] <mips1911> what output do you get for xrdb -query
[15:52] <mips1911> paste the output here http://paste.ubuntu.com/
[15:57] <bluesabre> According the xfconf-editor the default is lcddefault
[15:57] <mips1911> this is what my setup looks like and it's copied from ubuntu, http://paste.ubuntu.com/1136374/
[15:57] <mips1911> screenshot of font config, http://ompldr.org/vZjE3OQ/fonts.png
[15:58] <mips1911> brb, just wanna check this in a vm with standard xubuntu install
[15:59] <bluesabre> I find that fonts look better with "Slight" hinting
[16:04] <knome> probably depends on the monitor and font too :)
[16:04] <bluesabre> True
[16:04] <bluesabre> In that case, thanks Devs for creating the perfect setup for my laptop
[16:05] <knome> :)
[16:05] <knome> just good luck... ;)
[16:05] <bluesabre> btw, ochosi should be back online soon, right?
[16:05] <knome> umm, just before FF
[16:06] <knome> so maybe 20th or so
[16:06] <bluesabre> I think the new parole is done (there's a few remaining bugs that are a pain) and catfish is also done
[16:06] <knome> mm-hmm
[16:06] <knome> great
[16:41] <Pjotr> Hello, I've found a bug in Xubuntu, which only happens when you install LibreOffice in Xubuntu.
[16:41] <pleia2> bug #?
[16:41] <Pjotr> The default path for storing documents, does not take into account the localization of Xubuntu. The name "Documents" is not changed in accordance with the localization of the system.
[16:41] <Pjotr> So the path is always (e.g.) "/home/pjotr/Documents", whereas it should be (in my Dutch localized system) "/home/pjotr/Documenten".
[16:42] <knome> actually, it's stupid that LO expects you to have any dir in your home
[16:42] <Pjotr> This causes the documents to be stored in the main user folder, in my case /home/pjotr.
[16:42] <Pjotr> Against which package should I file a bug report on Launchpad?
[16:47] <Pjotr> Against LibreOffice or against some package that takes care of localization in general?
[17:03] <knome> LO
[17:18] <micahg> Pjotr: do you have the LO language pack installeD?
[17:20] <Pjotr> yes, LO is entirely localized for the rest.
[17:50] <Pjotr> I have filed a bug report: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libreoffice/+bug/1034521
[17:50] <Pjotr> Feel free to endorse it. :-)
[17:51] <Pjotr> knome: will this do?
[17:51] <Pjotr> micahg: can you help?
[18:00] <micahg> Pjotr: do you have libreoffice-l10n-nl installed?
[18:03] <Pjotr> micahg: yes
[18:06] <micahg> no idea then
[18:08] <Pjotr> it's not a big issue, but surely some simple config file of LO is involved, which should be easy to change?
[18:09] <micahg> might not be so simple, LO is ~12M LoC
[18:09] <Pjotr> it's easy to change by hand, in the preferences of LO....
[18:13] <Pjotr> Oh well, it's not an big issue anyway. So not much is at stake. :-)
[18:16]  * micahg wishes people wouldn't disappear like that
[18:21] <knome> yeah, me too
[18:21] <knome> isn't really helpful to come tell something isn't working, and then disappear
[18:33]  * micahg was going to suggest adding his "fix" to the bug
[19:28] <pleia2> phasing out? http://www.linuxinsider.com/story/XFCE-Makes-Mint-Even-Fresher-75842.html
[19:30]  * micahg would ask for sources
[19:31] <pleia2> yeah, leaving a comment now
[19:31] <drc> Sources? Sources? We doan need no stinkin' sources!
[19:33] <drc> Sources are the last resort of the journalisticly incompetent.
[19:34] <knome> lolwut
[19:35] <pleia2> of course comments are moderated :)
[19:37] <knome> https://twitter.com/Xubuntu/status/233285874123673600
[19:40] <pleia2> knome: can we put a link to our news archives on the front of xubuntu.org?
[19:40] <pleia2> xubuntu.org/archive/ exists, but I don't think we link to it anywhere
[19:41] <knome> hmm. i thought it was on the "further information" column
[19:41] <knome> yeah, we can add that
[19:41] <pleia2> ok, I'll add it to that column
[19:42] <knome> ok, thanks
[19:44] <knome> i wonder what my ubuntu SSO password is
[19:45] <Unit193> Launchpad one.
[19:45] <knome> yes. but what that is
[19:47] <knome> most probably not 'sausage'
[19:47] <Unit193> Look at the textfile on your desktop named "passwords-and-things"
[19:48] <knome> :P
[19:48] <knome> file not found
[19:48] <knome> äesch
[19:48] <knome> no ssh server installed on desktop?
[19:48] <knome> sucks
[19:48] <knome> :)
[19:48] <micahg> no, not by default
[19:49] <micahg> no open ports by default
[19:49] <Unit193> It is here for me, one of the things I have to setup (disable pass, force key...)
[19:49] <micahg> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SecurityTeam/Policies#No_Open_Ports
[19:51] <knome> micahg, no, i just thought i had set that up
[20:52] <bluesabre> Hello everyone, please test the latest master for parole.  At this point, I think its ready for release.  http://git.xfce.org/apps/parole/
[20:52] <bluesabre> I think it requires 4.10 to build
[20:59] <micahg> seems to only need 4.8 still
[20:59] <micahg> m4_define([libxfce4ui_minimum_version],[4.7.0])
[20:59] <micahg> m4_define([libxfce4util_minimum_version],[4.6.0])


[02:05] <liuxg> how to disable autopilot. my raspberry pi display the message like "snappy autopilot triggered a reboot to boot into an up to date system -- temprorarily disable the reboot by running 'sudo shutdown -c'" from time to time.
[08:10] <fgimenez> good morning
[10:00] <JamesTait> Good morning all; happy Friday, and happy Ubuntu Community Appreciation Day! 😃
[11:49] <happyaron> hey, I wonder which image is the latest snappy image, where can I find it?
[12:46] <olli> gm
[13:02] <kyrofa> happyaron, for which device or arch?
[13:03] <happyaron> kyrofa: for amd64, preferrable for VM. I'm not running the vivid image on edge channel, but I'm curious about whether that's latest, or there is a wily based or even x-series based one?
[13:04] <happyaron> s/not running/now running/g
[13:04] <kyrofa> happyaron, ah, so you've seen https://developer.ubuntu.com/en/snappy/start/#snappy-local then
[13:05] <happyaron> yep\
[13:05] <kyrofa> happyaron, I'm not sure about the x-based question-- hang out and someone more qualified will come by :)
[13:05] <happyaron> I tried to install ubuntu-snappy on an x-series chroot, but it appears missing many configurations (and the layout is not real snappy, of course)
[13:05] <happyaron> okay, :)
[13:05] <kyrofa> happyaron, but do note that you can create your own image via ubuntu-device-flash
[13:06] <happyaron> ah let me look into that, ty!
[13:06] <kyrofa> happyaron, any time!
[13:41] <mvo> jdstrand: if you have a moment, it would be great if you could approve my pending kernel/os/oem snaps, this should allow a full all-snap image to be assembled
[13:41] <mvo> jdstrand: they are pending review in the store, the update was needed to push some fixes in
[13:43] <jdstrand> mvo: hello, sure
[13:44] <jdstrand> mvo: fyi, I have a branch that can handle all these, but there will still be a manual review for these types
[13:45] <jdstrand> mvo: it'll look much like the oem feedback
[13:47] <jdstrand> mvo: done
[13:48] <asac> stgraber: i am kind off failing with something basic wrt lxd... all i want is to mount some dir in my home into the container and while the homedir: ... entry in config seems to work and mounts the dir i conifgured to /extra ... i cant seem to find a reasonable way to make that writable by the lxc uid etc.
[13:48] <jdstrand> mvo: I imagine there needs to be some conversation on this wrt to review tools. ie, imo you shouldn't be inhibited by the tools for these, but others should. eg, a sort of 'core-dev' group rights thing in the store
[13:48] <asac> and the id_map things i tried in config didnt work at all
[13:49] <asac> stgraber: think i ended up trying to do something https://github.com/lxc/lxd/issues/579 ... but not sure if thats the right way to just conveniently get a directory int he container that i can use ther
[13:49] <mvo> jdstrand: \o/
[13:49] <jdstrand> mvo: actually, I imagine it has nothing to do with the tools themselves. the store would simply ignore this one check if it came from this privileged group
[13:49] <mvo> jdstrand: yeah, it would be nice if there would be some sort of whitelist
[13:49] <jdstrand> like we do with brand stores
[13:59] <mvo> jdstrand: so ./ubuntu-device-flash --verbose core rolling -o amd64-all-snap.img --channel edge --oem generic-amd64.mvo --developer-mode --kernel ubuntu-kernel.mvo --os ubuntu-core.mvo works now
[13:59] <mvo> jdstrand: well, with me updated u-d-f, so thanks for allwoing it into the store
[13:59] <jdstrand> nice!
[14:15] <elopio> pitti: on adt-run, why is the source tree copied with owner ubuntu:root instead of ubuntu:ubuntu ?
[14:15] <pitti> elopio: err, I don't know, is it? which backend?
[14:15] <elopio> pitti: snappy.
[14:15] <pitti> so, ssh runner?
[14:16] <elopio> pitti: yes.
[14:16] <pitti> ah, I think copying files in doesn't drop privileges, it just keeps root
[14:27] <kgunn> hey so i'm building mir in a container, targetting xenial....got to the point of snapcraft assemble....all was going well, but then suddenly bailed
[14:27] <kgunn> https://pastebin.canonical.com/144531/
[14:27] <kgunn> wondering if this is a known issue?
[14:27] <kgunn> gonna try again...
[14:28] <kgunn> oops nvmd...i was updating in the background, i think lxd was configuring
[14:29] <elopio> yes, that main.go had me puzzled.
[15:57] <mvo> jdstrand: if you could approve https://myapps.developer.ubuntu.com/dev/click-apps/3752/review/seq/4/ that would be awsome, bugfixes plus allows upgrade testing
[16:01] <kgunn> hey there, if i do
[16:01] <kgunn> ubuntu-device-flash core rolling --oem=generic-amd64 --channel edge
[16:02] <kgunn> is that xenial ?
[16:02] <kgunn> would assume so...
[16:04] <Chipaca> kgunn: yes
[16:04] <Chipaca> kgunn: you probably want --developer-mode also
[16:04] <kgunn> yep i do
[16:04] <kgunn> thanks
[16:04] <kgunn> Chipaca: any plans to add a query option for core images ?
[16:05] <Chipaca> kgunn: "query option"?
[16:05] <kgunn> Chipaca: so u-d-f query can be used to list channels and images for devices
[16:05] <Chipaca> ah
[16:05] <kgunn> would've thot there'd be the same for core
[16:05] <kgunn> as there is in touch
[16:05] <kgunn> consistency and all....
[16:06] <Chipaca> kgunn: you might want to chat with sergiusens
[16:06] <Chipaca> kgunn: i think i might be working on this tool soonish
[16:07] <sergiusens> kgunn, we are retiring ubuntu-device-flash for something that targets the snappy architecture better
[16:08] <kgunn> ack
[16:10] <jdstrand> mvo: done
[16:10] <mvo> jdstrand: \o/
[16:11] <sergiusens> kgunn, also, only 16.04 and all snaps support (no system image)
[16:15] <Chipaca> sergiusens: hyphens are important
[16:15] <Chipaca> :)
[16:18] <sergiusens> Chipaca, funnily or not,  I removed the hyphen there before pressing enter :-)
[16:19] <Chipaca> sergiusens: the one in all-snaps, or in system-image? :-)
[16:19] <sergiusens> Chipaca, system-image, although, all-snaps should have one too ;-)
[16:19] <Chipaca> sergiusens: (you could also use quotes or caps for the same purpose, ie "all snaps", System Image)
[16:20] <Chipaca> sergiusens: namely, making clear that "all snaps" and "system image" are proper nouns
[22:43] <jerryG> Chipaca: can u answer a quick question?
[22:44] <jerryG> plz
[22:44] <jerryG> :}
[22:46] <jerryG> :{


[05:55] <RikMills> mparillo: do you have the proposed pocket knewstuff packages installed?
[10:58] <mparillo> I missed that step. Discover > Settings > Software Sources > Updates Tab > Check Pre-released updates ? Then refresh and upgrade?
[11:17] <RikMills> mparillo: yes
[11:58] <mparillo> Thank you. I believe my tests were successful now. I pasted the konsole output to https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/knewstuff/+bug/1962157/comments/6
[12:01] <RikMills> mparillo: thank you :)
[13:21] <BluesKaj> Hi folks
 Hey
[13:47] <BluesKaj> @ahoneybun, 'morning
 Heyo
 Morning
[19:28] <ahoneybun_> mparillo: do you have a link to making a KDE ticket about the BNC account?
 @ahoneybun valorie vouched for me to my BNC account
 https://community.kde.org/Sysadmin/BNC
 Can you vouch for me? https://phabricator.kde.org/T15335
 valorie
 or @RikMills
 KDE sysad,in guy is not happy with me at the moment, so I would suggest not me (re @ahoneybun: or @RikMills)
 KDE sysadmin guy is not happy with me at the moment, so I would suggest not me (re @ahoneybun: or @RikMills)
 Ah what did you do ;)
 Us/canonical are not quick enough to push out updates to stop KDE servers getting too many requests. The sysadmin says we are DDOS them via users. The reality is that KDE created the issue with releasing buggy code, and are looking to pass the buck (re @ahoneybun: Ah what did you do ;))
 Ah that's funny
 well not really
 I have been slow to get the update sorted as (a) I am not paid to do this stuff, and (b) they did not provide any way to verify the fixes work
 That's fair. I know we don't have a lot of funds but I feel like we should give some to you Rik.
 + KDE sysdmin is demanding that canonical skip the 7 day testing period for updates to released versions
 I would not take money out of our funds expect for very specific and urgent needs (re @ahoneybun: That's fair. I know we don't have a lot of funds but I feel like we should give some to you Rik.)
 I would not take money out of our funds except for very specific and urgent needs (re @ahoneybun: That's fair. I know we don't have a lot of funds but I feel like we should give some to you Rik.)
 What about new hardware?
 I have a not too bad desktop, and a i7 laptop, so plus  couple of of legacy laptops, so I am fairly ok there
 Ah alright.
 I was hoping to find a way to get more folks to work on the project.
[22:30] <mparillo> Sorry I was working the bulk of the day, but I see you have the link to request BNC Access. Another person who could probably vouch for you is JR. He was the one who vouched for me.


[00:11] <tynajas> hola buenas noches
[00:12] <tynajas> alguien me puede ayudar?
[00:12] <tynajas> ??
[00:12] <BarkingFish> tynajas: >> #wikipedia-es :)
[00:12] <tynajas> alguien tiene idea de squid?
[00:13] <tynajas> gracias ya lo visite :))
[00:13] <BarkingFish> de nada
[00:13] <tynajas> Alguien tiene idea de proxy en linux?
[00:13] <tynajas> ubuntu 11.04 para ser mas preciso
[00:14] <tynajas> necesito ayuda con squid
[00:15] <BarkingFish> !es
[00:15] <tynajas> agg
[00:29] <awake> hi there
[00:32] <awake> i have some issues whit kde
[00:32] <awake> sometimes it completely freeze whit no apperent reason
[00:34] <awake> and after 1-2 min just returns to work fine
[00:35] <awake> have someone the same issue?
[00:36] <awake> *has
[00:49] <Ronin01> Hello Everyone, I have an easy question,  how do you find the UUID of the Partition where you are CD'D Into When Regular BlKID Doesnt Find It
[00:50] <Ronin01> I have mounted it and I want to make an fstab entry for it but i cannot find its UUID
[03:12] <giantpune> hi, im using kubuntu 11.10.  i had it configured so the monitor never goes to sleep.  i let it install some updates today, and now the monitor is going black after like 1 or 2 minutes of inactivity.  ive checked in the "power management" and "Display and Monitor" settings and theres nothing there set to turn the monitor off
[03:13] <giantpune> does anybody have any ideas where else i would look?
[03:24] <DarthFrog> giantpune: I presume that you've disabled the screensaver?
[03:24] <giantpune> yes
[03:24] <giantpune> as a test, i enabled the screen saver to one with some colors.  after a minute, the monitor just goes black, not to th escreen saver
[03:25] <giantpune> im using a desktop, so there is no battery and most of the power saving settings are not available
[03:25] <DarthFrog> Any chance your monitor has a built-in screensaver?
[03:25] <giantpune> i dont think so.  it hasnt been doing this for the few years i had it.  it jsut started today
[03:26] <giantpune> i have the computer connected to a TV and a monitor.  let me sit here a bit and see if the TV goes black at the same time
[03:27] <giantpune> yup, the TV and the monitor both go black
[03:33] <DarthFrog> giantpune:  Can you bring up a console and run this command "ps auxww | grep screen" and see if anything relevant comes up?
[03:34] <giantpune> j        28529  0.0  0.0  93604   872 pts/0    S+   22:33   0:00 grep --color=auto screen
[03:34] <DarthFrog> or "grep screensaver".
[03:34] <DarthFrog> If that's all that turns up, I don't know what's going on, sorry.
[03:34] <giantpune> j        28890  0.0  0.0  93604   876 pts/0    S+   22:34   0:00 grep --color=auto screensaver
[03:35] <DarthFrog> Do you also have any of the other desktop environments installed, per chance?
[03:36] <giantpune> i have good ole kde.  and i guess theres a bunch of gtk stuff installed in the background for running gtk apps
[03:36] <DarthFrog> BTW, "ps auxww | less" will show you everything running on your system.  You could go through it, line by line, to find the culprit.
[03:37] <DarthFrog> GTK apps?  Could the problem child be one of them?
[03:38] <giantpune> i suppose it could.  all of them i have were installed from the package manager.  its stuff like the ubuntuone frontend and the ubuntu disk utility
[03:38] <giantpune> Iidk if any of othem would have had it install some extra power-saving mumbojumbo along with it
[03:40] <DarthFrog> It sounds like you have some detective work to do.
[03:41] <giantpune> im going through now and setting all the setting, then saving them, then disabling the setting, and saving it again.  maybe there is some default in some config file somewhere that needs wiped out or something
[03:45] <giantpune> woot.  i think that did it for me.
[03:47] <DarthFrog> What was it?
[03:49] <giantpune> i went into "Power Profiles" and clicked the second item in the list on the left.  all the settings like "screen energy saving" were unchecked.  i checked them all, adjusted them to some random value, saved it.  then unchecked them all again and saved it again and now it works
[03:49] <DarthFrog> Interesting.
[03:51] <giantpune> it probably would have been nice to see whatever config file is associated with this menu before i made the changes
[06:24] <hack_> приав
[06:24] <hack_> heloooooooooooooo
[06:24] <hack_> what s upppppppppppppppppppp
[07:13] <noaXess> morning
[08:58] <awake> useless chan
[09:00]  * jalcine is tempted to feed troll.
[09:15] <Catopette> sudo su
[09:16] <Catopette> I like KDE, it supports my hardware, who the gnome does not
[09:25] <hp> I run KUBUNTU
[09:25] <hp> Found error in sources.list in the newest kubuntu
[09:26] <hp> When i run sudo apt-get update i get all error
[09:27] <noaXess> hp: new install or upgrade?
[09:31] <baxeico> hi guys, do you know when kde 4.8.1 will be available for onereic?
[09:34] <Tm_T> baxeico: when it's ready, hopefully soon
[09:34] <baxeico> Tm_T: thanks
[09:35] <Tm_T> baxeico: you can expect release announcement in http://www.kubuntu.org/news
[09:37] <pradeepto> hi
[09:38] <pradeepto> Where should I look or what should I be doing to get TouchPad on Dell Inspiron ( N 5050 ) to work properly with Kubuntu 11.10?
[09:39] <pradeepto> I have searched the interwebs, including launchpad, but haven't found a solution.
[09:40] <pradeepto> In System Settings -> Input Devices -> Touchpad, it says "No Touchpad Found"
[09:45] <Tm_T> pradeepto: have you tried searching with the touchpad device id?
[09:46] <pradeepto> Tm_T: when I run xinput list, I don't see any mention of touchpad device in the list
[09:46] <Tm_T> lshw?
[09:48] <pradeepto> Tm_T: nopes, nothing in there as well
[09:57] <pradeepto> Tm_T: for example, Fn+F8 toggles trackpad nicely on this laptop, a thinkpad running 11.04. But it ( Fn+F3 dell specific ) doesn't work on the Dell Laptop running Kubuntu 11.10
[09:58] <pradeepto> xinput list shows "TPPS/2 IBM TrackPoint" on this box
[10:26] <hp> Need a program to make my computer a restorepartition, help, tryed mondo, does not work
[10:36] <hp> how do i make a kernel for my computer
[11:15] <pradeepto> Tm_T: apparently it was listed as ALPS GlidePoint ( which I didn't know is generally the name of the trackpad on Dell ), have disabled this bugger with xinput.
[11:15] <pradeepto> Thanks for the help, appreciate it.
[11:19] <Tm_T> pradeepto: np
[12:02] <BluesKaj> Howdy all
[12:28] <toscalix> hi, yesterday I upgraded my kubuntu with latests packages for kde 4.8.1 (I think)
[12:28] <toscalix> is somebody else experience misbehaviours in  kmail2?
[12:29] <toscalix> hi, yesterday I upgraded my kubuntu with latests packages for kde 4.8.1 (I think)
[12:29] <toscalix> is somebody else experience misbehaviours in  kmail2?
[12:29] <toscalix> experiencing
[12:33] <Catopette> Noen Norske her da?
[12:54] <kbroulik> how can I create a user that 1. does not need a passwort to login, 2. that does not need a password to unlock a screen, 3. that does not lock the screen when fast switching users? (and please do not tell me how unsafe blabla and whatever this is,.)
[12:55] <kbroulik> I already configured KDM to "allow login without password" for that user but when I switch users the session automatically gets locked and since kubuntu does not allow me to create a user without a password for some reason, I need a password there :(
[14:32] <ErSnaPpy> hi to everyone!!
[14:32] <ErSnaPpy> Can I ask to u a question?
[14:33] <ErSnaPpy> how can i have more effects in my Kubuntu?
[14:33] <DarthFrog> ErSnaPpy: Poke about in SystemSettings.
[14:34] <DarthFrog> There's a Desktop Effects section there.
[15:05] <___dan___> you guys amarok
[15:05] <___dan___> hehe
[15:07] <cespinal_> hello there
[15:07] <___dan___> hi cespinal_
[15:07] <___dan___> really quiet in here :(
[15:08] <cespinal_> yeah :S
[15:08] <cespinal_> I just wanted to ask someone a quick question..
[15:08] <Pici> Don't ask to ask, just ask. :)
[15:08] <___dan___> im no expert but will have a try :)
[15:08] <cespinal_> Does anyone know how rekonw 0.9 will come for 11.10?
[15:09] <cespinal_> rekonq
[15:09] <___dan___> is there not a ppa?
[15:09]  * ___dan___ uses firefox
[15:09] <cespinal_> nop... there not a ppa for kubuntu
[15:09] <cespinal_> chakra anr arch already have it :S
[15:09] <cespinal_> and*
[15:09] <tsimpson> it's not likely that a new version will be uploaded, unless it's a bug fix release
[15:09] <___dan___> 12.04 is out soon :)
[15:09] <cespinal_> there are a couple of git repos around there... but their version is way too unstable..
[15:10] <tsimpson> at least, not in a non-backports repo
[15:10] <cespinal_> yeah.... I used the beta and rekonq 0.9 was amazing..
[15:10] <___dan___> cool :)
[15:11] <___dan___> havent tried 12.04 yet
[15:11] <___dan___> considering a dist-upgrade from 11.10 :)
[15:12] <cespinal_> well... in my case, I completely wrecked my system after some updates..
[15:12] <___dan___> maybe i will leave it a week or two then
[15:12] <___dan___> hahah
[15:12] <vibhav> cespinal_: What updates did you install?
[15:13] <___dan___> have they fixed kmail yet?
[15:13]  * ___dan___ moved to thunderbird when kmail 2 hit anyway
[15:13] <cespinal_> I don't remember a this point.  I'm just dying to get my hands on rekonq 0.9
[15:14] <___dan___> akonadi, nepomuk, mysql etc
[15:14] <cespinal_> Yes.
[15:14] <___dan___> april cespinal_ :)
[15:15] <cespinal_> After the update, the konsole kept showing a message saying there was no shell.. .
[15:15] <tsimpson> cespinal_: 12.04 is in April, not August
[15:15] <cespinal_> oh sorry :S
[15:15] <___dan___> just remember the version number is year.month
[15:15] <cespinal_> I rebooted... and seemed that the kernel just failed to load...
[15:15] <___dan___> :)
[15:15] <tsimpson> 12 (2012) . 04 (April)
[15:16] <___dan___> im sure there is an echo in here heheh
[15:17] <vibhav> cespinal_: Did the kernel give any error message?
[15:17] <cespinal_> yes
[15:17] <cespinal_> I dont remember the error message at this point.
[15:18] <cespinal_> It just faild to load modules
[15:18] <cespinal_> failed.
[15:18] <vibhav> cespinal_: Can you boot again and pastebin the error messages?
[15:19] <cespinal_> Nopes. I'm sorry... I took the chance to make a clean install of Mint 12 KDE just to give it a ride..
[15:33] <JMichaelX> if i understand correctly, many distros are shipping with patches that address this bug: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=275469
[15:33] <JMichaelX> if that is true, why doesn't kubuntu?
[15:34] <vibhav> It may have been fixed in Launchpad and not in upstream
[15:34] <JMichaelX> i guess i do not fully understand that
[15:35] <BluesKaj> JMichaelX,  yes there's a ppa to add for that fix , in launchpad
[15:36] <JMichaelX> BluesKaj: that is news to me. how are people supposed to find out about such PPAs?
[15:37] <BluesKaj> JMichaelX,  well launchpad is the place for bug fixes in all 'buntus
[15:37] <BluesKaj> BBL
[15:38] <JMichaelX> BluesKaj: ty for the info
[15:40] <JMichaelX> would anyone here know which PPA BluesKaj was referring to?
[15:40] <cespinal_> So... does anyone have a clue about rekonq 0.9 shipping to kubuntu 11.10?
[15:40] <cespinal_> No idea JmichaelX
[15:43] <cespinal_> Activity!
[15:47] <Nick_26> hello people
[15:49] <cespinal_> activity!
[15:49] <cespinal_> Hello
[15:50] <Nick_26> how are you people? :P
[15:50] <cespinal_> I'm good...
[15:50] <Nick_26> everyone here is using kubuntu ?
[15:51] <orated> maniX: ping
[15:55] <Nick_26> bye people
[15:55] <howlymowly_> hi poeple..  short question:   I just bough a radeon 6850
[15:55] <howlymowly_> everything runs perfectly well, if I use the open Source edrivers for ATI. but when I activate fglrx  desktop effetcs do not work anymore
[15:55] <howlymowly_> any idea?
[15:57] <cespinal_> have you used the restricted drivers?
[15:58] <howlymowly_> cespinal_: yepp,  I activated the fglrx driver
[15:59] <howlymowly_> using jockey-kde
[15:59] <howlymowly_> I mean: I can deactivate it again. but I want to use the full potential of the card
[16:00] <cespinal_> no idea :S
[16:01] <Oer> Hi, in KDE clock, there is a setting "special events". Does anyone know, what list is used, and is it possible to add April 26th? ( for all users )
[16:09] <Tm_T> Oer: I assume it uses your contact list's birthdays etc
[16:09] <neo69> hi
[16:09] <Oer> Tm_T, oke, no worldwide events?
[16:10] <Tm_T> Oer: not that I know
[16:10] <neo69> what package should I install to have java on my kubuntu?
[16:11] <Oer> OpenJDK works fine with me, neo69
[16:11] <cespinal_> rekonq in kubuntu, who is using it
[16:12] <neo69> Oer: thanks
[16:28] <cancer> i was repairing Grub & system hanged (slow) responding. i restarted system & boot menu was there to choose. is it ok?
[16:28] <neo69> hi
[16:28] <Peace-> hi
[16:28] <Peace-> cancer: it should
[16:29] <neo69> just installed openjdk-7-jre and still java doesn't work on my browsers, what should I do?
[16:29] <cancer> Peace-: hi, i was confused because i don't know how to operate kubuntu. so just want to confirm that it's fine now. because i rebooted the pc in between repairing process.
[16:32] <Sentynel> neo69: the browser java plugin is icedtea-plugin
[16:38] <neo69> Sentynel: thanks
[17:17] <Cenbe> Hi, just installed beta 1 of Precise, but can't get software updates or installs ("failed to fetch...", "file format not recognized...").
[17:17] <Cenbe> Anybody else having this problem?
[17:18] <bazhang> Cenbe, #ubuntu+1 for that. seems to be a common issue of late
[18:07] <excognac> why debugging symbols are not included in the intall version? Why they fail many tomes during install?
[18:07] <excognac> *times
[18:16] <excognac> i.e. there was an unhandled Bugzilla error arrrgh
[18:58] <benbloom_> is there a software based reason my ps/2 mouse would stop working? how can i troubleshoot it?
[18:59] <Peace->  benbloom_ ?
[18:59] <Peace-> trust?
[19:00] <benbloom_> Peace-, ?
[19:00] <Peace-> mouse brand = trust ?
[19:01] <benbloom_> lemme check
[19:01] <benbloom_> it used to work
[19:02] <benbloom_>  logitech
[19:04] <benbloom_> usb mouse works if i plug it in. current ps/2 keyboard works fine.
[19:04] <macele> I've forgotten. How do you restart X? ctl-alt-backspace doesn't seem to work anymore.
[19:13] <blafoo> Hello! I've some Problems with Kubuntu 12.04 beta and Bluetooth. Although I've activated Bluetooth in th system settings I can't connect to any of my Bluetooth devices: Samsung SGH-U800 or Logitech M55b. With Kubuntu 11.04 (on an other mashine) both work. What to do to make them work with 12.04b? (Used hardware with Kubuntu 12.04b: Asus Zenbook UX31E)
[19:13] <bazhang> blafoo, #ubuntu+1 for that
[19:15] <blafoo> bazhang: Thanks.
[19:17] <blafoo> exit
[19:57] <blafoo> Hello! I've some Bluetooth problems. Although it is shown (in the system settings) that Bluetooth should work, it does not. I can't connect to any of my devices: mobile, mouse, other computer. Kubuntu version: 12.04b, 11.10. Hardware: Asus Zenbook UX31E
[20:06] <qw-Russian> hello all
[20:06] <qw-Russian> help me please
[20:07] <blafoo> qw-Russian: Hello! What's your problem?
[20:08] <Cenbe> Whatever my packaging problems were, they seem to have disappeared now. Maybe the devs were doing something on the update servers.
[20:08] <qw-Russian> i would like rename for my nick name in the system example:  now i have qw@user-laptop  features  qw@ubuntu
[20:10] <blafoo> qw-Russian: If you want to do it properly it's not done fast.
[20:10] <[Raiden]> qw-Russian: Привет )
[20:11] <qw-Russian> [Raiden] ку
[20:11] <blafoo> qw-Russian: Do you care of path of your home directory? Currently it should be /home/qw
[20:11] <blafoo> qw-Russian: ??? ky???
[20:12] <qw-Russian> blafoo in Russian - ky in english - hello )
[20:12] <blafoo> qw-Russian: IC. Hello! ;)
[20:12] <qw-Russian> blafoo i have directiry /home/qw
[20:13] <blafoo> qw-Russian: Does it bother you if this remained?
[20:13] <qw-Russian> no i would like rename second path after @
[20:15] <qw-Russian> now qw@user-laptop i would like qw@ubuntu
[20:15] <blafoo> qw-Russian: You mean the name of the mashine? In your case user-laptop.
[20:15] <[Raiden]> see /etc/hosts /etc/hostname
[20:16] <badola_> qw-Russian: in order to change the part after @ just go and edit the file /etc/hostname
[20:16] <badola_> you would also be needing root permissions for this
[20:17] <[Raiden]> and /etc/hosts
[20:18] <qw-Russian> it this all &
[20:18] <qw-Russian> ?
[20:30] <blafoo> I've narrowed my Bluetooth problems (BT didn't sync with other devices, 12.04b, 11.04). Meanwhile I've installed bluez-utils and libopenobex1 but now the BT-interface doesn't start up any more. hciconfig --all shows DOWN INIT RUNNING but after some seconds the state is DOWN.
[20:55] <Combatjuan> My computer draws really slowly.  Xorg uses lots of CPU.  I'm using the nvidia-current driver but don't have any compositing or effects on (a separate issue).  I have 3 monitors.  From googling, people say switch the qt-renderer to Raster.  I did that but it won't stick.
[20:56] <Combatjuan> That is, in the 'Qt Graphics SYstem' I can set it to Raster, but on logout-login, it's still set to X11/XRender.  Since logging out is required to get it to start working, I don't even know if it would work if it tried.
[20:56] <Combatjuan> Some people have said I can set the environment variable QT_GRAPHICSSYSTEM=raster.  But that doesn't seem to work either.
[20:57] <Combatjuan> That is, it's set, but it doesn't seem to have helped anything and it definitely seems to have nothing to do with the value of that setting.
[20:57] <Combatjuan> So... How can I not have cripplingly slow graphics?
[20:58] <[Raiden]> may be driver not installed correctly
[20:58] <[Raiden]> )
[21:00] <Combatjuan> Raiden: Yeah, there are probably various issues with that.  Though I've spent many hours trying to get gl to work with 3 monitors and the nvidia driver.   I was hoping I could side-step the problem.  Siince I have given up on hardware acceleration, I thought I'd at least try and get faster raster graphics.
[21:01] <Combatjuan> But that too is seeming difficult.  It's very frustrating.  I want to love linux, and more specifically kubuntu, but it tries to be so unlovable in a desktop environment.
[21:13] <markus> I love it :D
[21:36] <BluesKaj> hey gents , til my sata cables arrive , I have to use a USB connection for an WD 1TB external drive I just setup ...what's the best File System to use for storing and retrieving files , FAT32, extX or ...?
[21:37] <BluesKaj> ntfs maybe ?
[21:39] <markus> I used ntfs for that as it works everywhere
[21:41] <BluesKaj> right
[21:53] <ja> ?
[21:57] <danielo> hello
[21:57] <danielo> is there anyone who use kde 4.8.1???
[21:57] <jessie> I do!
[21:57] <danielo> is it stable?
[21:57] <jessie> Just upgraded last night.
[21:57] <danielo> is it worth to update
[21:57] <jessie> So far so good, but I've only used it one day.
[21:57] <danielo> I sow it is in backports :(
[21:58] <jessie> It depends. For me it was, there was one bug that was killing me.
[21:58] <danielo> what bug?
[21:58] <jessie> My laptop not always suspending when I shut the lid.
[21:59] <danielo> :( I used it all the time :(
[21:59] <danielo> do You know when will be released 12.04??
[21:59] <jessie> April?
[21:59] <[Raiden]> may be not kde bug
[21:59] <danielo> something more sure?
[21:59] <danielo> the beginning of april?
[22:00] <danielo> or later?
[22:00] <jessie> [Raiden]: It was a KDE bug.
[22:00] <jessie> Releases seem to be about the 20th usually.
[22:00] <jessie> So late April would be my guess.
[22:01] <danielo> so something about two month to go
[22:01] <danielo> so I will give a try for newest kde :D
[22:01] <danielo> thanks for your answers
[22:02] <[Raiden]> danielo: 26 april
[22:05] <danielo> thanks
[22:27] <thinktank909> I like it better than the regular standard ubuntu.
[22:27] <thinktank909> hi.
[22:37] <Riddell> thinktank909: you're welcome :)
[22:38] <thinktank909> I just need to get muon working and i think i'll start learning it. WIndows 8 turned me off.
[22:41] <fess> ping
[22:44] <AxDSan> HELLOOOOOO
[22:44] <AxDSan> Please
[22:44] <AxDSan> someone help me
[22:44] <AxDSan> im working in Backtrack 5 and
[22:44] <jessie> And?
[22:44] <AxDSan> im editing some file via: "vim vars" command
[22:44] <AxDSan> and now I dont know how to exit or save the fikle
[22:45] <AxDSan> if I simply exit it it doesnt saves it
[22:45] <jessie> :wq or ZZ
[22:45] <jessie> That should save and exit if you have permissions to do so.
[22:45] <[Raiden]> :)
[22:45] <AxDSan> :S
[22:45] <AxDSan> no
[22:45] <AxDSan> simply closes down = not a save
[22:45] <AxDSan> any idea on how to work with it?
[22:45] <Unit193> You'd have to have edit permissions, and...
[22:46] <Unit193> !backtrack
[22:46] <AxDSan> THANK YOU!
[22:46] <AxDSan> xD
[22:46] <AxDSan> AxDSaAxDSan #backtrack-linux Cannot join channel (+b) - you are bannedn #backtrack-linux Cannot join channel (+b) - you are banned
[22:46] <AxDSan> AxDSan #backtrack-linux Cannot join channel (+b) - you are banned
[22:46] <AxDSan> AxDSan #backtrack-linux Cannot join channel (+b) - you are banned
[22:46] <AxDSan> WTF!
[22:46] <FloodBotK1> AxDSan: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:47] <AxDSan> so it says: "AxDSan #backtrack-linux Cannot join channel (+b) - you are banned"
[22:48] <Unit193> Ban against *!*root*@* matches<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[22:49] <Unit193> AxDSan: You'd have to change your ident, and register your account with nickserv to speak.
[22:49] <AxDSan> how to do so?
[22:49] <AxDSan> im new
[22:49] <Unit193> !nicksetup
[22:49] <AxDSan> !nicksetup
[22:49] <AxDSan> !nicksetup AxDSan
[22:49] <Unit193> ..... Read the link....
[22:50] <AxDSan> AxDSan is now registered to blablabla, with the password blablabla.
[22:50] <AxDSan> done :D
[22:51] <AxDSan> still im banned
[22:51] <AxDSan> why the heck?
[22:51] <Unit193> Need to complete with checking your email. and still would need to change your ident.
[22:52] <AxDSan> done
[22:52] <AxDSan> oh my
[22:52] <AxDSan> AxDSan #backtrack-linux Cannot join channel (+b) - you are banned
[22:53] <AxDSan> im going to destroy this thing
[22:53] <AxDSan> for good
[22:53] <Unit193> As I said, now you just need to change your ident, check the settings of whatever client you have.
[22:53] <AxDSan> konversation
[22:54] <AxDSan> done?
[22:54] <AxDSan> let me see
[22:54] <AxDSan> still banned
[22:54] <AxDSan> not a clue
[22:54] <FloodBotK1> AxDSan: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:55] <AxDSan> well
[22:55] <Unit193> There you go.
[22:56] <AxDSan> done :D
[22:56] <AxDSan> ty pal
[22:56] <Unit193> Sure.
[23:09] <aljosa> anybody using kubuntu on macbook air and managed to get a good touchpad settings, something as good as osx?
[23:10] <jessie> The multitouch support isn't as good in Linux.
[23:10] <jessie> At least, it wasn't the last time I checked.
[23:11] <jessie> You can get 2 finger scrolling, but most of the other actions are not supported.
[23:13] <aljosa> jessie: thanks for info, have that working. was hopping to get something similar to osx
[23:14] <jessie> aljosa: Things like 4 finger swiping?
[23:15] <aljosa> jessie: yes, and customization for similar actions
[23:16] <jessie> aljosa: Yep. As far as I know, 2 finger is as much as is supported.
[23:16] <jessie> BTW, that's what she said.
[23:21] <aljosa> jessie: 8-)
[23:46] <kbroulik> btw kudos to the kubuntu packaging team … it's great that the releases get backported so quickly nowadays <3


[05:37] <nalioth> any thoughts on installing an AI module into ubottu?  after a year in #ubuntu, it should be able to answer 99% of whatever is asked of it . .
[05:40] <Flannel> nalioth: why do you say that?
[05:41] <nalioth> Flannel: just musing . .
[05:41] <Flannel> nalioth: What makes you believe that just musing?
[05:43]  * elky chortles.
[05:43] <Flannel> elky: Can you elaborate on chortles?
[05:44] <elky> purple monkey dishwasher.
[05:44] <Flannel> elky: Why do you say that?
[06:45] <mneptok> On January 22, 2011, ubottu became self-aware. In the next 3 hours, it initiated a global thermonuclear war. The survivors, led by John_Connor ...
[06:46] <mneptok> [Freenode] -NickServ(NickServ@services.)- John_Connor is not registered.
[06:46] <mneptok> we're doomed.
[13:09] <Tm_T> mneptok: you're not volunteer to be John_Connor, I assume?
[19:59] <ikonia> Enissay: hello there
[19:59] <Enissay> Hi guys
[19:59] <Enissay> :)
[19:59] <ikonia> how can we help you today
[19:59] <Enissay> (requested by ikonia: "please disable your irc scripts")
[19:59] <ikonia> Enissay: ahhh yes
[19:59] <ikonia> thank you very much for popping in
[19:59] <ikonia> Enissay: do you know the script I'm talking about ?
[19:59] <ikonia> !give ikonia a test
[19:59]  * Enissay gives ikonia an AK-47 (die, you imperialist dog!)
[19:59] <ikonia> that one
[20:00] <Enissay> i did that o.O
[20:00]  * nalioth frowns
[20:00] <Enissay> omg, im so sorry
[20:00] <ikonia> don't worry - lets just disable it please
[20:00] <Enissay> sure
[20:00] <Enissay> well, im using Uberscript
[20:00] <ikonia> thank you
[20:00] <ikonia> looks like thats the problem
[20:00] <Enissay> i dunno how to disable this option
[20:00] <ikonia> you may need to disable the whole lot then
[20:01] <nalioth> there's not much call for those type scripts on freenode
[20:02] <Enissay> =(
[20:02] <Enissay> alright then
[20:03] <Enissay> UberScript: Fun Stuff now inactive
[20:03] <ikonia> let me know when it's disabled
[20:03] <ikonia> !give nalioth a kiss
[20:03] <ikonia> looks good
[20:03] <ikonia> 10 seconds and I'll remove the forward for you
[20:03] <Enissay> thanks
[20:03] <Enissay> btw, u know where i can find alternative scripts?
[20:03] <Myrtti> for what client?
[20:04] <Enissay> Xchat
[20:04] <nalioth> Enissay: this isn't efnet. scripts aren't needed
[20:04] <ikonia> Enissay: the ban forward on #ubuntu has been removed for you
[20:04] <Enissay> ok
[20:04] <Enissay> thanks ikonia
[20:04] <Enissay> <3
[20:04] <ikonia> thanks for popping in
[20:05] <Enissay> :)
[20:13] <Myrtti> Enissay: would you need help with anything else?
[20:13] <Myrtti> I'm afraid I'm not ackquainted with Xchat and its scripts so I can't help you with that
[20:13] <Enissay> no, that's it
[20:14] <Enissay> thanks :)
[20:14] <Enissay> im leaving, cos only ops can be here i guess
[20:14] <Enissay> :)
[20:14] <topyli> Enissay: thanks
[20:14] <ikonia> thank you
[20:14] <Enissay> bye
[20:15] <topyli> heh. now there's quit message to make you think
[21:30] <ikonia> 21:17 -!- CecilsCockRing is now known as HughCOCK
[21:30] <ikonia> really ?
[21:45] <Flannel> ... I ... guess being offtopic scared him away?
[22:00] <ikonia> for the record he did do that on purpose as he made the same speach in ##linux too
[22:17] <Flannel> I figured
[22:31] <Flannel> !away > n3mo`sleep
[22:33] <Flannel> why so many idiots today
[23:43] <niko> Flannel: he test our bot, sorry
[23:43] <niko> ( McPeter )
[23:43] <Flannel> No worries