[09:40] <UniLab> I have 8 installed currently
[09:40] <blackshirt> !info deborphan
[09:40] <Bl4cklisted> UniLab: a few options
[09:40] <nowayride> Windows 8? /backs up slowly
[09:40] <UniLab> yes Windows 8, and I want to install Ubuntu alongside
[09:41] <Bl4cklisted> UniLab:  I am sorry you downgraded to win8, but you could try the Wubi installer or just run a liveCD and install alongside during the install GUI process
[09:41] <MonkeyDust> UniLab  is this link useful http://www.intowindows.com/dual-boot-windows-8-and-ubuntu/
[09:41] <Bl4cklisted> UniLab: Or that^
[09:44] <UniLab> :/ I am going to try dualbooting it in a virtual machine first, if I succeed, I will try IRL
[09:45] <Bl4cklisted> UniLab: Ubuntu has the "install side-by-side" option during install - A VM will not display that option since it would not detect another OS
[09:45] <Bl4cklisted> UniLab: http://cloud.intowindows.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/Dual-Boot-Windows-8-And-Ubuntu-Step12_thumb.jpg
[09:45] <UniLab> bl4cklisted, i am going to install 8 in the VM first and then proceed to installing ubuntu
[09:46] <very> since i seem to have my scrollbar problem with web pages only i think i'm going to use a work around. i will just append a # in the location bar and therefore create a history entry for the original position.
[09:46] <Bl4cklisted> UniLab: just as long as you do win8 first, I should go fine
[09:46] <Bl4cklisted> UniLab: It should go fine*
[09:47] <UniLab> i know, microsoft is a b!tch and ditches linux
[09:47] <Bl4cklisted> UniLab: otherwise, youd have to rebuild grub, and that is not fun
[09:47] <Besogon> hi! Can anyone help me with rules file? http://pastebin.com/Hp4hG3Wt
[09:47] <UniLab> 8 is installing in VM
[09:48] <UniLab> also, does the "alongside" option create new partition?
[09:48] <Bl4cklisted> UniLab: Yes. Just for Ubuntu
[09:49] <Bl4cklisted> UniLab: Windows will not see it, but Linux will see the Windows partition when youre using Ubuntu
[09:49] <UniLab> if you have 2 partitions, can you choose that which partition will be shrinked? Cause my C: is already small enough
[09:49] <Bl4cklisted> UniLab: So for files you need on both OSs, save them on the Windows partition
[09:50] <Bl4cklisted> UniLab: That may be an issue. You may need to use gparted
[09:50] <UniLab> or "Something Else" ?
[09:51] <Besogon> Anyone who know how to write rules for deb package??? I have a problem with GNU Make. I marked build target as phony.. but it didn't help.. wtf?http://pastebin.com/Hp4hG3Wt
[09:51] <Besogon> I'm talking about build target
[09:51] <Bl4cklisted> Besogon: Sry I dont know much about that
[09:52] <Bl4cklisted> UniLab: "Something else" would be something similar to gparted when youd be able to modify the partitions yourself
[09:52] <Bl4cklisted> UniLab: where youd*
[09:52] <Besogon> oh.. my fault
[09:52] <UniLab> bl4ck, so I can do it like this > http://bit.ly/U7PYuq
[09:52] <Bl4cklisted> Besogon: this is my first time in here lol
[09:53] <UniLab> there is 1st, 2nd and 3rd image
[09:54] <Bl4cklisted> UniLab: If youre still on that page, the three images under "Step 9"
[09:54] <UniLab> yes. that is what the bit.ly links to
[09:54] <UniLab> an imgur album with these 3 pictures
[09:55] <Bl4cklisted> UniLab: The "NTFS" type will be your Windows partition
[09:55] <UniLab> i just wanted to make the link short and not to post 3 long links
[09:55] <UniLab> I know
[09:55] <UniLab> why is windows 8 such a b!tch ?!
[09:55] <Bl4cklisted> UniLab: You should be able to shrink and resize partitions from there
[09:55] <Bl4cklisted> UniLab: Because its Windows
[09:56] <UniLab> tbh, I always used linux just in VMware and all the virt. SW but I am still amazed by it and want to have it non-virtually
[09:56] <Ben64> it works much better running for real
[09:56] <Bl4cklisted> UniLab: Otherwise, you may need to just use a Ubuntu LiveCD with gparted and shrink and resize partitions from there - I dont remember if its in there by default since I havent used ubuntu in a year or so
[09:57] <asterisk-Tester> Hi, i have a Lenovo y570 that I installed Ubuntu 12 64 bit, all was working ok but suddenly now the battery cant charge more than 48%, any idea ?
[09:57] <Evil_Eric> weeee i figured out how to lock a package
[09:57] <UniLab> bl4ck, I will just shrink my D partition in Windows and then I'll boot into the LiveCD and divide it into Swap and Ubuntu
[09:58] <Bl4cklisted> UniLab: Are you on a laptop?
[09:58] <UniLab> yes
[09:58] <Bl4cklisted> UniLab: Ah now its making more sense
[09:59] <Bl4cklisted> UniLab: Okay so your C: is likely your manufacturers reset and your D: is Windoze
[09:59] <antonio_> Aloha folks...
[09:59] <Bl4cklisted> Hello
[09:59] <UniLab> nonono, my C: is Windoze and D: is just all personal data
[09:59] <Bl4cklisted> UniLab: Ah
[09:59] <antonio_> For some reason I cannot play an audio cd...ubuntu is viewing it as a blank cd
[10:00] <Bl4cklisted> UniLab: How large are each?
[10:00] <Bl4cklisted> antonio_: What audio software do you have installed?
[10:00] <antonio_> bl4cklisted: I have a few audio editing programs
[10:00] <watussi> hello
[10:00] <UniLab> C is 50 nad D is 395
[10:01] <UniLab> *and
[10:01] <watussi> do you know a regex-coach's equivalent for ubuntu ?
[10:01] <Bl4cklisted> UniLab: Yikes - Id take some from D: if possible
[10:01] <antonio_> bl4cklisted: I don't see how audio software will prevent the cdrom from loading audio...or even showing that its a blank cd
[10:02] <UniLab> yeah, I used to have dualboot 7 and 8 , 8 was running on a now non-existing G: which was a new 50GB partition created from D
[10:02] <Bl4cklisted> antonio_: You may need to try downloading a program that plays audio like Audacious or Brasero and it may downlad the required deps along with it
[10:02] <MonkeyDust> watussi  http://linux.softpedia.com/get/Text-Editing-Processing/Others/The-Regex-Coach-9029.shtml
[10:03] <Bl4cklisted> antonio_: but come to think of it, I cant remember the last time Ive played a CD in Ubuntu
[10:03] <watussi> Mongolski: thank you ! did you try it ?
[10:04] <Bl4cklisted> UniLab: If youre really uncomfortable, the Disk Manager in windows should be able to partiton for you, but it will not be able to set up the required filesystem
[10:04] <dr_willis> the software could be looking for the device at /dev/cdrom but /dev/cdrom is actually a link to the real device.. sometimes that link is incorrect
[10:04] <MonkeyDust> watussi  guess it's me you're addressing and no, i haven't
[10:04] <UniLab> I know! I said that I will just shrink it in Windows but then I'll divide it into swap and ubuntu system in LiveCD
[10:04] <beltxa1> Buenos dias
[10:04] <beltxa1> alguien puede ayudarme please¿
[10:04] <MonkeyDust> !es
[10:05] <dr_willis> $ ls -l /dev/cd*
[10:05] <dr_willis> shows i have a /dev/cdrom1 here.. but not a /dev/cdrom   which is a little weird.
[10:05] <antonio_> this is annoying
[10:06] <watussi> MonkeyDust: yes, sorry for mistake ^^
[10:06] <Bl4cklisted> antonio_: Are you able to find the cd in nautilus at least?
[10:06] <antonio_> yeah
[10:07] <antonio_> its showing up as a blank disc...and its not
[10:07] <Bl4cklisted> antonio_: any files in it or does it appear empty?
[10:07] <Bl4cklisted> antonio_: I see
[10:09] <dr_willis> antonio_:  this is an Audio/Music cd? You dont mount those, or see files on them normally. Unless you are using some tool/plugin for the file managers that sort of uses a virtual filesystem on them to show the music as mp3 or other data
[10:09] <antonio_> dr_willis: its showing the cd as totally blank
[10:10] <dr_willis> but is it an AUDIO cd?
[10:10] <antonio_> yes
[10:10] <bekks> You cant mount an audio CD.
[10:10] <dr_willis> you DONT mount those. you normally will see them as blank because its not got a normal filesystem on it.
[10:10] <walex> dr_willis: there is actually 'cdfs' that allows mounting and auto-ripping audio CDs, but it always been little used
[10:11] <dr_willis> walex:  yea. theres some other tools like that ive seen for KDE and I think one for nautilus also
[10:11] <walex> antonio_: the problem with audio CDs is that they can be ripped in many different ways, and they are not written in data made, but in a different mode.
[10:12] <MonkeyDust> antonio_  you need ext4 or ntfs or so on the cd, if you want to mount it - an audio cd does not have that
[10:12] <walex> antonio_: so they cannot be read like data CDs, they have to be auto-ripped.
[10:12] <Bl4cklisted> antonio_: Try http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=766683
[10:13] <xnter> hunnybunny
[10:13] <walex> MonkeyDust: it is not the filesystem/not filesystem issue, audio CDs have a structure that can be interpreted as a filesystem if one wants. It is that they are not written in data mode, but in audio mode.
[10:13] <HunnyBunny> yes xnter?
[10:13] <walex> and there are many different ways to read audio mode, so CD ripping programs differ very much on that, and embedding a specific ripping method in a filesystem driver in the kernel is a bad idea.
[10:14] <antonio_> monkeydust: I can't even listen to an audio cd on my computer then?
[10:14] <Bl4cklisted> antonio_: Try installing Banshee
[10:14] <bekks> antonio_: You can listen to an audio CD, but you cannot mount it.
[10:14] <HunnyBunny> xnter what is it?
[10:14] <dr_willis> antonio_:  determine what device the thing is /dev/sr0 most likely, and you just tell the player to play /dev/sr0 . Its possible the apps are using /dev/cdrom which MAY BE WRONG.
[10:15] <bekks> HunnyBunny: He is gone already.
[10:15] <MonkeyDust> antonio_  audacious is a nice audioplayer
[10:15] <HunnyBunny> okay weird... since i dont know him and i never ever talked here x)
[10:15] <Bl4cklisted> MonkeyDust: Yeah probably my fave
[10:15] <u1204> Hi, how to upgrade kernel via terminal? when I enter 'sudo apt-get upgrade' the new kernel does not appear among other packages, but when I check graphical Update Manager the new kernel is there.
[10:16] <walex> antonio_: you can listen to it via your computer, but in its native audio mode that happens in analogue way.
[10:16] <antonio_> what?
[10:16] <hanning> hi
[10:16] <bekks> u1204: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[10:16] <kareti> list
[10:16] <walex> antonio_: that is, you *play* the audio CD, the CD drive decodes the tracks and emits sounds signals on its analogue outputs.
[10:16] <bekks> walex: CD audio is digital, btw.
[10:16] <antonio_> walex: its not even doing that
[10:17] <u1204> but will it upgrade the whole system from 12.04 to 12.10?
[10:17] <bekks> u1204: No.
[10:17] <u1204> ok, I'll try, thanks
[10:17] <hanning> is anyone able to tell me how to configure pulseaudio to use spdif properly? it is working fine with ALSA
[10:17] <walex> antonio_: usually each CD drive has one analogue output socket on the front, for plugging in headphone, and an analogue output on the back for putting in a cable leading to your sound card.
[10:17] <bekks> walex: Thats the _output_. CD audio still is digital. :)
[10:18] <kareti> QUESTION: is there any text based User interface like KDE?  Or else plug in headphones in the front docket.
[10:19] <antonio_> walex: when I put the cd-in it doesn't play any kind of music...it shows it as a totally blank cd
[10:19] <walex> antonio_: alternatively, you can use a computer-based CD player that rips the track from the CD and puts them on disk and then plays those files.
[10:19] <bekks> kareti: The usual shell is what you are looking for then.
[10:19] <jalil> hey ya, insects, hehe...
[10:19] <walex> antonio_: you are not using a CD-drive player.
[10:19] <dr_willis> antonio_:  you dont use the file manager to access the cd.. it WILL be blank... thats normal..
[10:20] <dr_willis> vlc /dev/sr0     (i think) should start playing the thing
[10:21] <walex> antonio_: perhaps this needs saying many times: CD disks can come in several different and incompatible formats, and CD-audio format is incompatible with CD-data format, and you cannot use the tools used to access CD-data disks for CD-audio disks.
[10:21] <kareti> bekks: I wish there would be a KDE like environment that is just based on text.  like programs running on ncurses.  i woud like to have every application to be on shell.. Just an idea. is there any such?
[10:21] <walex> kareti: TWIN.
[10:21] <bekks> kareti: Just use "screen", which offers you the ability to open as much shells as you want.
[10:22] <blackshirt> kareti, maybe you want develope de likes them :d
[10:22] <walex> antonio_: the tools for CD-audio disks allow you to do one of two things: play tracks via the CD-drive itself, not the computer it is attached to, or rip the tracks to a file on the computer.
[10:22] <jj99> i'm able to start once a freshly installed ubuntu 12.10
[10:22] <jj99> any ideas?
[10:23] <bekks> jj99: Just remove the CD, and reboot.
[10:23] <jj99> ehm?
[10:24] <jj99> anyways i did remove the cd :D
[10:24] <bingo_> hi, i have a pc where i tried to install nouveau driver after that i tried to install nvidia driver without be succesful... now when i turn on the pc i get this screen http://tinypic.com/r/2ik4fgj/6   anyone can help me please?? :)
[10:24] <bekks> jj99: You asked how to boot your computer after installing it.
[10:25] <jalil> hey, guys are there any community apps development i can join, with little programming experience?
[10:26] <jj99> bekks nah, i asked if anyone has an idea why i can start a freshly installed 12.10 once
[10:26] <nowayride> bingo_ you have two DM?
[10:26] <nowayride> jj99 what do you mean start it once
[10:27] <UniLab> bekks, can I dualboot Ubuntu and Windows 8 like this : Windows 8 already installed and a bit of unallocated space prepared, boot livecd of ubuntu, choose "something else", divide unallocated space into swap and partition for ubuntu and the install?
[10:27] <blackshirt> jalil, maybe you need more spesific languages, there are #pyhton oe ##c
[10:27] <blackshirt> or
[10:27] <UniLab> *and then install
[10:27] <bekks> UniLab: Sure, why not?
[10:27] <jalil> blackshirt: but do they develop for ubuntu specifically?
[10:28] <Bl4cklisted> UniLab: Sounds about right
[10:28] <UniLab> ok, I am just kinda afraid cause Windows 8 brought the amazing crappy bootloader that half of time isn't detected by grub >.>
[10:28] <bekks> jalil: Using a programming language, it doesnt matter whom you are developing for.
[10:28] <blackshirt> jalil, maybe you need more spesific languages, there are #pyhton oe ##c
[10:28] <Evil_Eric> sorry working out kinks
[10:29] <jalil> bekks: really? how about old billy's vb?
[10:29] <MonkeyDust> jalil  vb in linux?
[10:29] <UniLab> microsoft is really cheap nowadays >.> they even put non-antialiased font in their setup process, it looks pixely like setup of DOS...
[10:29] <jalil> bekks: or delphi? I doubt that...
[10:29] <dr_willis> There was Delphi for Linux at one time
[10:29] <blackshirt> jalil, use gambas...they mimics vb'
[10:29] <Sliker> ahem, aliased corners on 12.10.
[10:30] <Sliker> makes me sad.
[10:30] <antonio_> this is the output I get when I run vlc  /dev/sr0  http://pastebin.com/VxLs3tnS
[10:30] <bekks> jalil: delphi is dead and buried, besides the fact that Delphi for Linux existed.
[10:30] <UniLab> sliker, better to have corners than whole UI...
[10:30] <dr_willis> I rember when Delphi for Linux was big news :) egads i am old.
[10:30] <Sliker> tru dat
[10:30] <jalil> MonkeyDust: yeah, ridiculous right?
[10:31] <bekks> jalil: So which programming language are you interested in, besides writing M$ Office macros?
[10:32] <UniLab> fu** off M$, the Windows 8 in VM is sitting @ the Almost Ready screen for 20 minutes...
[10:32] <UniLab> jeez, I need it just for testing purposes...
[10:32] <nv> well thats just not right
[10:32] <nv> Win8 is quick to boot
[10:32] <Bl4cklisted> bekks: Probably pascal
[10:32] <jalil> bekks: the point wasn't which language I'd like to use... the point was which app development teams to join...
[10:32] <Bl4cklisted> nv: hes installing it
[10:32] <dr_willis> bekks:  mIRC scripting. ;)
[10:33] <nv> Almost Ready screen doesnt take 20 minute
[10:34] <UniLab> nv, as soon as I did b!tch about how long does it take, it was on the start screen
[10:34] <MonkeyDust> jalil  some 30 people in #ubuntu-app-devel -- you may have to register first
[10:34] <antonio_> dr_willis: this is the output I get when I run vlc  /dev/sr0  http://pastebin.com/VxLs3tnS
[10:35] <vmouse> hi
[10:35] <antonio_> also when I run the command sudo lshw -C disk I get the following output http://pastebin.com/BWbHKZQp
[10:35] <bekks> jalil: Well, your choice of the team strongly depends on what you want to develop, and on which language do you want to use.
[10:36] <bekks> jalil: So it heavily matters.
[10:37] <jalil> bekks: well, I agree...
[10:37] <dr_willis> antonio_:  try some other media players. have them try to play /dev/sr0 directly
[10:37] <jj99> anyone tried running android emulator or other java dev tools in an ubuntu vm?
[10:37] <jj99> that an viable option?
[10:38] <ping___> hy
[10:38] <lepotan> hi to all any one has experience with using openvpn
[10:38] <lepotan> evry time i connect with openvpn to server I can not access my ssh
[10:38] <lepotan> service on ubuntu
[10:39] <oldman> Does ubuntu 12.10 support wireless nic BCM94312?. If it does not where do I get the driver .?
[10:39] <walex> antonio_: try 'sudo apt-get install cdtool; cdinfo; cdplay'
[10:39] <bekks> oldman: BCM94312 or BCM4312?
[10:40] <oldman> bekks. Itis probably BCM 4312. AS listed in lspci.
[10:40] <joey_> hello guys, do somebody ever tried to repair windows from linux?
[10:40] <dr_willis> joey_:  depending on whats broke.. its doable
[10:41] <Bl4cklisted> joey_: All the time
[10:41] <joey_> well i had tried a restauration from windows, being in dual boot with linux
[10:41] <bekks> !wifi > oldman
[10:41] <antonio_> walex: its returning with no_disc
[10:41] <Bl4cklisted> joey_: but as dr_willis has said, it depends on what the problem is
[10:41] <joey_> but since then, windows is not bootable anymore
[10:41] <Bl4cklisted> joey_: Youll need to repair grub
[10:42] <userz1> cant get Lubuntu or Kubuntu to auto internet connect...card is  Realtek RTL8201N..any suggestions?
[10:42] <oldman> bekks: Thanks
[10:42] <dr_willis> joey_:  that 'system rescue' live cd may be handy. or #windows may suggest other tools to try
[10:42] <joey_> i installed linux again to obtain a new clean version of grub
[10:42] <Bl4cklisted> joey_:  Ive used this a few times without any problems https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[10:42] <bekks> joey_: It is not necessary to reinstall the whole OS to accomplish that.
[10:43] <walex> antonio_: try again with 'cdinfo -d /dev/cdrom'
[10:43] <joey_> well grub is ok to launch ubuntu
[10:43] <joey_> but my windows need a repair,
[10:43] <antonio_> walex: no_disc
[10:43] <walex> antonio_: or better 'sudo cdinfo -d /dev/cdrom' just in case
[10:43] <joey_> and i have no disc
[10:43] <bekks> joey_: But it is not necessary to reinstall Ubuntu for reinstalling grub.
[10:43] <bekks> joey_: Well, without having a disc, there is no way.
[10:43] <Bl4cklisted> joey_: It checks for other OSs during repair and adds them to grub
[10:44] <joey_> is it possible to find something to burn?
[10:44] <dr_willis> joey_:  there are legal ways to get a win7 iso/recovery cd. i recall some links to such sources on lifehacker a few months back
[10:44] <bekks> joey_: Thats illegal, basically.
[10:44] <walex> antonio_: also 'sudo cdinfo -d /dev/sr0' 'sudo cdinfo -d /dev/sr0'
[10:44] <joey_> lol
[10:44] <dr_willis>  #windows may know specifics.. it was a minimal windows iso from MS that was used for repairing. not reinstalling
[10:44] <joey_> illegal or legal =p
[10:44] <bekks> joey_: It does matter.
[10:44] <antonio_> walex: cdinfo: can't open cdrom (/dev/sr): No such file or directory
[10:44] <dr_willis> it was said to be LEGAL from what i recall. it was a tool/iso from MS
[10:45] <bekks> antonio_: /dev/sr0 instead of /dev/sr
[10:45] <joey_> so its foundable on ms website
[10:45] <walex> antonio_: also 'sudo cdinfo -d /dev/sr0' 'sudo cdinfo -d /dev/scd0'
[10:45] <Evil_Eric> blahhh im seriously considering going back to 12.04
[10:45] <mando_> I have a question. is ubuntu 12.04 still supported. I was just asked for a partial upgrade and I accepted at first but then it crashed when I had a program installing in sudo. So began updates again and the partial upgrade was gone. Only updates. So I'm wandering what the hell that is about
[10:45] <dr_willis> joey_:  i found mention of it on the lifehacker web site. the #windows channel should know more
[10:45] <antonio_> walex: no_disc
[10:45] <bekks> mando_: Yes, 12.04 is still supported.
[10:45] <walex> antonio_: if all of these fail, your audio CD is not readable or is indeed missing.
[10:45] <bazhang> mando_, for five years, so yes
[10:46] <joey_> ow okk (sorry first hour on irc)
[10:46] <antonio_> walex: its definitely readable...its been played earlier on an actual cd player
[10:46] <joey_> well thanks all i try to ask on their channel
[10:46] <mando_> thank god for that. But why the hell was I asked for a partial upgrade then dissappeared?
[10:46] <walex> antonio_: it may readable only on a CD player, there are copy protection schemes that achieve that.
[10:47] <walex> antonio_: try again with 'cdplay' instead of 'cdinfo', just in case
[10:47] <antonio_> no_disc
[10:47] <walex> antonio_: also check the light on the CD drive door, if it cannot read a disk there is usually a distinctive flashing pattern.
[10:48] <walex> antonio_: or try 'sudo cdeject -d /dev/cdrom' and then inserting it again.
[10:48] <antonio_> walex: it flashes when I first put the cd in...
[10:48] <UniLab> guys, is 1GB partition enough as swap for ubuntu
[10:48] <antonio_> that ejects it
[10:48] <OerHeks> UniLab, enough for swap, maybe not enough for hybernate/sleep
[10:49] <UniLab> what size is recommended?
[10:49] <OerHeks> UniLab, let the installer calculate.
[10:49] <MonkeyDust> UniLab  about your RAM size, preferrably a bit more
[10:49] <MonkeyDust> or what OerHeks says
[10:49] <UniLab> ?
[10:49] <xrs1> they want you to use 50% more than how much RAM you have
[10:49] <OerHeks> MonkeyDust +1 indeed more for hybernate/sleep
[10:50] <mando_> UniLab, the size of whatever ram you are using . like  monkeydust said
[10:50] <UniLab> I need to do "Something Else" while installing so I need a recommended size
[10:50] <plast1k> UniLab, 2X or 1X ur RAM should do
[10:50] <xrs1> i dont use swap at all unless the comp has less than 2 gigs RAM
[10:50] <UniLab> my RAM is 4GB, can I give it 5GB?
[10:50] <mando_> ok I'm restarting my comp. May or may not com back debating if unity is good for my nephews desktop or I go with linux mint mate
[10:50] <mando_> chow
[10:50] <xrs1> yeah
[10:50] <cnf> that's silly
[10:51] <cnf> at least set up a swap file
[10:51] <cnf> if you don't want to waste a partition
[10:51] <antonio_> walex: anything else?
[10:51] <xrs1> ?
[10:51] <xrs1> waste a partition?
[10:51] <Bl4cklisted> UniLab: For swap, usually 2GB is enough
[10:51] <UniLab> so what should I do?
[10:51] <walex> antonio_: i am trying it here and 'cdplay' etc. works... But no sound output
[10:51] <nrdb> hi... I have a network problem ... I a network on <IP_ADDRESS>/24 and a VPN on <IP_ADDRESS>/24 ... the VM handling the creation of the VPN is working correctly and can ping the VPN client ... how do arrange for any VPN traffic on the <IP_ADDRESS>/24 network to be put on the VPN network?
[10:51] <walex> antonio_: probably because of pulseaudio, so looking at it.
[10:52] <xrs1> creat a static route?
[10:52] <UniLab> ok, I have 4GB of RAM, if that is important
[10:52] <marvindoppelt> just installed Ubuntu 12.04 LTS on a new Lenovo 581.  Am unable to setup LAN and WLAN and am suspecting it's a case of drivers.  LAN is Atheros AR8161/8165 and WLAN is Broadcom 802.11n.  Tried google but to no avail.  Any help herein?
[10:52] <UniLab> right now I have 60GB of unallocated space, my laptop has 4GB of RAM, how much for swap?
[10:52] <UniLab> 2GB?
[10:52] <dr_willis> UniLab:  5gb should be plenty
[10:52] <cnf> xrs1: some people don't want to create a separate partition for swap
[10:53] <cnf> so you can just use a file on your root partition
[10:53] <Bl4cklisted> marvindoppelt: try DLing those device drivers on a different machine onto a usb and install them that way
[10:53] <dr_willis> 2 gb will be plenty. but wont let you do that hibernate/suspend stuff. (whichi never use anyway)
[10:53] <xrs1> thats what i was saying. i dont have swap at all
[10:53] <walex> antonio_: I think laptop CD drives no longer have analog outputs...
[10:53] <UniLab> well, I do use hibernate/sleep, so 5GB of swap?
[10:53] <Bl4cklisted> UniLab: That is plenty
[10:53] <dr_willis> UniLab:  5gb then would be a good idea.. of course you are assuming that hibernate/sleep will work. ;)
[10:54] <walex> antonio_: and in any case my laptop's audio card has no analog input other than the microphone, so no input from the cd drive.
[10:54] <Bl4cklisted> It doesnt always lol
[10:54] <cnf> UniLab: you could also try swaps or something :P
[10:54] <xrs1> suspend usually isnt an issue. hibernate is retarded
[10:54] <OerHeks> cnf no, swap partition is a different partition type
[10:54] <Bl4cklisted> ^
[10:54] <UniLab> well, 90% of time I just sleep/hibernate instead of shutdown
[10:54] <cnf> OerHeks: yes… so?
[10:54] <OerHeks> cnf, so .. no
[10:54] <cnf> UniLab: swapd, not swaps
[10:54] <cnf> OerHeks: no what?
[10:54] <antonio_> this is super frustrating
[10:54] <dr_willis> UniLab:  some times the sleep stuff dosent work on linux - it depends on the hardware a lot.
[10:55] <UniLab> so 5GB of swap or 2GB of swap or what?! everybody says something else
[10:55] <walex> UniLab: ideally 5
[10:55] <OerHeks> cnf, don't try to be smart, just corrected your mistake.
[10:55] <dr_willis> UniLab:  we clearly said.. 2gb  = no sleep.. 5gb for sleep.. you said you wanted sleep....
[10:55] <cnf> OerHeks: you didn't correct anything
[10:55] <Bl4cklisted> UniLab: 2GB is what is ually used, 5GB is enough if youre looking to suspend and hibernate
[10:55] <cnf> OerHeks: you are being vague
[10:56] <cnf> OerHeks: be specific, or be quiet
[10:56] <dr_willis> yea hibernate.. ;) not sleep. ;P
[10:56] <UniLab> ok
[10:56] <xrs1> the official answer is 50% more than how much RAM is in the box. that makes it 6GB. that is overkill. 5GB will suffice without wasting space
[10:56] <dr_willis> too many variations on the  term/idea/methods.
[10:56] <antonio_> thanks folks...night
[10:57] <nowayride> http://techreport.com/r.x/gigabyte-iram/card.jpg and make the whole thing a moot point :P
[10:57] <OerHeks> cnf then do not give wrong information, that is all, read back, my sentence is clear: swap has a different partitiontype.
[10:58] <cnf> OerHeks: your answer isn't clear at all
[10:58] <cnf> OerHeks: i know it has a different partition type, so bloody what?
[10:58] <xrs1> lol thats what SSDs looked like back in the day. DONT YOU DARE TRIP OVER THAT POWER CORD!
[10:58] <cnf> OerHeks: how does that matter _at all_ to what i said?
[10:59] <cnf> xrs1: thing in the back is a battery pack
[10:59] <nowayride> I like PERC 6e cause it has a RAM slot
[11:04] <mando_> ok I ran into a few problems. My nephews computer is an older dell with a single pentium 4 with a 1 gig of ram and a 256 mbs nvidia card. I honestly thought it could take unity but I am experiencing all sorts of lag and I can't do snap windows. Would mints mate be a better choice for this pc. Hell lxde is laggy running ubuntu :(
[11:04] <Bl4cklisted> mando_: Yikes - may consider running a lighter OS
[11:04] <joey_> mmh how to find a french channel?
[11:05] <fego> joey_: /msg alis list *-fr*
[11:05] <Bl4cklisted> mando_: Though it may be a vid driver issue
[11:05] <mando_> Bl4cklisted, mint seems like a better choice
[11:05] <Bl4cklisted> mando_: I like mint a lot myself - currently on Arch
[11:05] <Bl4cklisted> mando_: Ubuntu has gotten rather bloated as of late
[11:06] <marvindoppelt> Bl4cklisted, lemme give it a try and may you'll earn yourself a beer
[11:06] <dr_willis> lxde running ubuntu? You mean unity on lxde? or the lxde desktop is laggy?
[11:06] <cnf> OerHeks: so next time, either have something specific to say, or just stay quiet
[11:06] <bazhang> cnf, thats enough
[11:06] <bazhang> Bl4cklisted, lets stay on topic with Ubuntu support only
[11:07] <mando_> Bl4cklisted, thank you for pointing that out. Thats sad becuase my nephew really like the unity bar.
[11:07] <joey_> thank feo
[11:07] <bazhang> mando_, for help with MINT go to mintsupport
[11:07] <OerHeks> !attitude | snf
[11:07] <Bl4cklisted> marvindoppelt: Its certainly unusual that both your cards are not recognized - its usually one or the other
[11:07] <cnf> bazhang: hey, i only ask people to be specific if they tell me i am giving out wrong information
[11:07] <cnf> bazhang: i do not thing this is unfair
[11:07] <mando_> bazhang, I got what I needed. thank you
[11:07] <bazhang> cnf, move on
[11:07] <OerHeks> or stfu cnf, you pass the line.
[11:07] <bazhang> OerHeks, let it go
[11:07] <Bl4cklisted> mando_: Have you installed the nvidia restricted drivers?
[11:08] <mando_> Bl4cklisted, yes I did. No dice
[11:08] <Bl4cklisted> mando_: Ah bummer
[11:08] <Bl4cklisted> mando_: The is strange - 256mb card is rather good
[11:08] <mando_> Bl4cklisted, hey question. is ubuntu unity more bloated then kde? I currently have that but I have been admiring unity
[11:09] <Guest71085> nope
[11:09] <bazhang> mando_, thats entirely opinion
[11:09] <Bl4cklisted> mando_: Cant say. Didnt like unity enough to play around with it
[11:09] <bazhang> !ot | mando_
[11:09] <xrs1> first / second gen P4 with 1GB DDR1 and 32MB GeForce256 is WAY more than enough. i have no problems with XFCE on a Duron 900 w/ 640 MB RAM
[11:09] <Bl4cklisted> mando_: Its also dependant on what effects youve got turned on
[11:10] <xrs1> there is a bigger issue at hand here unless you expected it to run like a ferrari
[11:10] <walex> xrs1: that is a bit optimistic if you have many windows/tabs on a web browser
[11:10] <Bl4cklisted> mando_: XFCE with a dock may end up running faster than Unity
[11:10] <mando_> Bl4cklisted, I know right? but what I think it is the single processor. I think unity would demand something newwer.   I added it back, but the windows dont minimize to it.  ideas on how to get that back?
[11:11] <xrs1> i ran unity on my duron 900 w/ FX5200 and it ran okay. XFCE runs better
[11:11] <Bl4cklisted> frustro: rightclick and add to panel
[11:12] <mando_> Bl4cklisted, yep. I guess I'll go lower in os. Whatever will run his minecraft gamer better lol
[11:12] <Bl4cklisted> frustro: search for Window Selector
[11:12] <Bl4cklisted> mando_: Lol
[11:12] <Evil_Eric> hahaha my frame rate for glxgears has got to be a lie!!!!
[11:12] <frustro> the add to panel is not there.  window selector?
[11:12] <Bl4cklisted> mando_: Minecraft can be rather demanding, do a light DE may be better
[11:12] <Bl4cklisted> mando_: so*
[11:13] <mando_> Bl4cklisted, I will. thank you for the help
[11:14] <Bl4cklisted> frustro: Odd. Rightclicking on panel should show "Add to Panel"
[11:15] <frustro> oh, it's like a widget on the bar.
[11:15] <frustro> got it, thank you.
[11:15] <Bl4cklisted> frustro: No prob
[11:17] <Bl4cklisted> exit
[11:18] <lotuspsychje> whats the command to completly remove zeitgeist (purge)?
[11:21] <OerHeks> lotuspsychje, you will lose unity functionality , just stop the service
[11:21] <Nibinaear> Hi. How do you get Notepad++ on Ubuntu? It seems like the perfect match for Linux but it's not available.
[11:21] <lotuspsychje> Oerheks:it worked on previous ubuntu for me, will unity crash on 12.10?
[11:22] <bekks> Nibinaear: Thats because Notepad++ is not a linux program.
[11:22] <OerHeks> lotuspsychje, yes, dsah search function get corrupted :(
[11:22] <OerHeks> c/dash
[11:23] <diverdude> cat /proc/filesystems  gives me this list: http://bin.cakephp.org/view/1041381558  I dont see fat or ntfs anywhere. Does that mean i cannot read FAT or NTFS drives?
[11:23] <lotuspsychje> OerHeks:ok tnx for letting me know
[11:23] <bekks> diverdude: No. NTFS is mounted using a fuse module.
[11:24] <diverdude> bekks: i see... so how can i know if i can mount NTFS?
[11:24] <diverdude> NTFS
[11:25] <bekks> diverdude: You can see fuse listed in /proc/filesystems.
[11:26] <diverdude> bekks: ahh ok...and fuse can mount both FAT32 and NTFS?
[11:26] <bazhang> diverdude, this is debian?
[11:26] <diverdude> bazhang: yeah
[11:26] <bekks> diverdude: Since when?
[11:27] <bazhang> diverdude, then ask for support in #debian
[11:28] <beatrice> ! ciao
[11:28] <beatrice> !list
[11:29] <beatrice> !zoodiaco
[11:31] <himcesjf> Hi! I'm not able to get x11vnc working after recent update. I've reconfigured dm for kdm over lightdm and here are the working, failed attempts - http://paste.ubuntu.com/1367286/ . What am I missing in the command?
[11:36] <skcin7> I'm looking to get a new laptop soon. Is there anything I should look out for to make sure I get one that is optimized for Ubuntu?
[11:37] <wripimp> anyone on that good with networking
[11:37] <mortal> skcin7: get a thinkpad
[11:37] <nowayride> What's up?
[11:37] <OerHeks> skcin7, loot @ http://www.ubuntu.com/certification/desktop/ 2nd row
[11:38] <OerHeks> c/look
[11:38] <skcin7> Tell me about the thinkpad, mortal.
[11:38] <bekks> wripimp: Why?
[11:38] <himcesjf> !laptop
[11:39] <ix_> how do I update the bios if I only have Ubuntu?
[11:39] <OerHeks> oh thanks himcesjf i didn't know that factoid
[11:39] <ix_> I see a .bio file and it says something about a blank cd
[11:40] <ix_> does that bio file work with dd?
[11:40] <graingert> ix_: depends on the mother board
[11:40] <ix_> graingert, it's an intel d510mo
[11:40] <graingert> ix_: contact your mother board manufacturer
[11:40] <m000gle> Hi.  I have gPodder installed on Ubuntu 12.04 and on Windows 8 ... I understand that its possible to sync subscriptions (using either a gpodder.net login or OPML file).  However, is there any way to synchronize the downloaded episodes, to avoid being forced to re-download them on each OS?
[11:40] <ix_> graingert, I already did
[11:40] <skcin7> Lenovo Thinkpad… looks sweet.
[11:44] <skcin7> I had a Dell and a HP in the past and although they were great at first, they began to have many issues about after a year of ownership. Do Lenovo laptop machines have a reputation for reliability?
[11:45] <reami> yes
[11:45] <skcin7> Sweet
[11:45] <skcin7> Anyone care to share the machine they personally have and how happy they are so far with it?
[11:46] <bazhang> !poll | skcin7
[11:46] <MonkeyDust> m000gle  there are things like dropbox
[11:46] <bazhang> skcin7, this is the wrong place for that
[11:47] <bazhang> skcin7, try #ubuntu-offtopic
[11:47] <skcin7> I will do that, bazhang.
[11:48] <m000gle> MonkeyDust: The gPodder Downloads folder is already symlinked to a shared NTFS storage partition.  So, the episode files are already accessible to both OS's.  The issue is making each OS's install of gPodder recognize downloads completed using the other.
[12:01] <abailarri> Hi all, I have filezilla in ubuntu 12.04, but it does not work, is unable to connect to any server
[12:03] <bekks> abailarri: So whats the error message then - here, filezilla works perfectly.
[12:05] <abailarri> bekks, thi is the error:
[12:05] <abailarri> Connection timeout exceeded
[12:05] <abailarri> Error: Could not connect to server
[12:05] <Abbas51214> hi every one
[12:05] <wirdo> is ubuntu a computer
[12:05] <bekks> abailarri: An you are specifying an FTP server?
[12:06] <bekks> wirdo: No. Ubuntu is an operating system based on Linux.
[12:06] <wirdo> wow
[12:06] <Shadowix> Ubuntu is an operating system based on debian
[12:06] <Abbas51214> any one from pakistan
[12:08] <joerack> Hello, does anybody know what this error is   :"configure: error: bigendian is not supported... stopping"
[12:10] <himcesjf> Hi! I'm not able to get x11vnc working after recent update. I've reconfigured dm for kdm over lightdm and here are the working, failed attempts - http://paste.ubuntu.com/1367286/ . What am I missing in the command?
[12:10] <abailarri> bekks, yes, but do not connect to any server
[12:10] <bekks> abailarri: Do you have an example server?
[12:11] <abailarri> bekks, but are private!
[12:11] <Viliny> hello!
[12:11] <bekks> abailarri: Maybe ther do not run on the standard ports.
[12:11] <Viliny> setting up proftpd on a ubuntu server here, getting the problem that it cannot start in either standalone or inetd (we set it to inetd)
[12:12] <Viliny> can't find any logs or anything to see what the problem is, anyone know how to?
[12:12] <pingvin06> хай всем
[12:12] <pingvin06> есть живые?
[12:12] <bekks> !ru | pingvin06
[12:13] <joerack> Hello, does anybody know what this error is   :"configure: error: bigendian is not supported... stopping"    plsease help
[12:13] <pingvin06> Кто может подсказать нормально работающий шейпер для ubuntu желатьльно GUL/WEB интерфейсом для мониторинга с винды
[12:14] <abailarri> bekks, Before, it connected well to these servers
[12:15] <abailarri> bekks, The problem appeared yesterday. Began to cease to connect yesterday
[12:15] <bekks> abailarri: Did you ensure you are using the correct ports?
[12:15] <UniLab> o fudge
[12:15] <UniLab> I have a problem
[12:15] <abailarri> bekks, yes
[12:16] <abailarri> bekks, If I try it with Windows, it works perfectly with the same data connection.
[12:16] <bekks> abailarri: Do you even have a working networking connection using Ubuntu?
[12:17] <abailarri> bekks, yes
[12:23] <Sizur> Q: why 64-bit is still not recomended?  I cannot have my main desktop not be recommended. should i install again opensuse or what?
[12:23] <Sizur> 32-bit these days is preflood tech
[12:23] <CorvusCorax> Sizur, theres a forum thread about that
[12:24] <Sizur> 2010\
[12:24] <Sizur> that's a bit old
[12:24] <CorvusCorax> apparently the "recommended" means if you are a stupid user who doesnt even know whether he has a 32 or 64 bit system, its recommended to get 32bit because it would always work
[12:24] <gordonjcp> yup
[12:24] <gordonjcp> Sizur: 32-bit if you don't care, 64-bit if you know what you are doing
[12:25] <Sizur> so there are no showstoppers with 64?
[12:25] <gordonjcp> Sizur: it stops people coming in here moaning their faces off because Skype doesn't work properly
[12:25] <Sizur> lol
[12:25] <CorvusCorax> 64 bit is only for "advanced" users, where advanced + knows how many bits their CPU works with
[12:25] <CorvusCorax> ;)
[12:25] <Jordan_U> Sizur: Many (including most people you'll find here) disagree with that label on the website, and I'll note that there is a difference between having the 32 bit be recommended, and saying that 64 bit is "not recommended" (at least as most people understand the phrase "not recommended").
[12:25] <xrfang> hi, the "Startup Application Manager" is missing in 12.10, how to get it back?
[12:26] <abailarri> bekks, You know that it is?
[12:26] <gordonjcp> Sizur: anyway, unless you're using something that doesn't work well in 64-bit (generally proprietary software like Skype) then just use 64
[12:26] <CorvusCorax> skype works in 64bit
[12:26] <bekks> abailarri: I know what?
[12:26] <gordonjcp> it does *now*
[12:26] <CorvusCorax> with the ubuntu package
[12:26] <gordonjcp> but people still moan about it
[12:27] <midhuno> hi i bought a new acer aspire one d270 netbook but i can't install ubuntu 12.10 on it.........when will be it possible to install ubuntu onit with full driver support?? sorry for bad english and thanks in advance pls help me
[12:27] <Sizur> alrighty, how about latest kde? are any of you running it and what issues you have with ubuntus integration with it if any?
[12:27] <CorvusCorax> midhuno: try installing with the "network installaion" mini iso
[12:27] <bekks> midhuno: Whats the detailed problem?
[12:27] <bekks> midhuno: "cant install" is just too generic.
[12:27] <abailarri> bekks, my problem with Filezilla
[12:27] <CorvusCorax> that uses text mode only, so it will work on almost any hardware, and you can later use recovery mode to get your drivers working
[12:28] <CorvusCorax> its what I just did with my new Samsung laptop
[12:28] <midhuno> bekks : blank screen after booting...... but 12.04 runs well except 3d support
[12:28] <CorvusCorax> the install DVD would just wreze when the graphic driver loaded. I had to install in text mode and then manually install the latest proprietary catalyst drivers (the beta ones) to get it to run X
[12:28] <bekks> abailarri: I have no further idea, since filezilla is working fine here, and we've stepped through the obvious misconfigurations.
[12:29] <CorvusCorax> bekks: I had the same issue
[12:29] <CorvusCorax> blank screen, keyboard and mouse non responsive (crtl+alt+del didnt work either although the power button did)
[12:30] <CorvusCorax> I managed to get it installed using the net-installation mini iso since it uses text mode only
[12:30] <Domincii> Hey, I'm installing Ubuntu 12.10, I need to install it on a file that I can't format (of course I CAN format it, I just don't want to lose the files on it), I'm creating a new partition on it as Ext2 file system, where should I mount it?  / or /boot?
[12:30] <m000gle> MonkeyDust:  Actually, I may have found a solution ... If I symlink /home/gpodder (which contains the database and settings files) to C:\Users\<username>\gpodder , then the database files should remain in sync
[12:30] <gordonjcp> Domincii: there are a few things wrong with that
[12:31] <Domincii> Please elaborate, im not great at this :P
[12:31] <gordonjcp> Domincii: if this is going to be where you install Ubuntu, it needs to be mounted on /
[12:31] <gordonjcp> Domincii: you do kind of need to start with the partition totally clean - it might well work with stuff already on it, but who knows what weird interactions it'll cause
[12:31] <CorvusCorax> Dominci:, "I need to install it on a file ..."  I assume you mean "filesystem"
[12:31] <gordonjcp> Domincii: and don't use ext2 unless you know what you're doing
[12:31] <midhuno> bekks help me
[12:31] <jj99> anyone coding with a ubuntu vm?
[12:31] <CorvusCorax> or partition, or do you actually wnat to install into a filesystem image file?
[12:32] <Jordan_U> !anyone | jj99
[12:32] <jj99> 8)
[12:32] <Domincii> Gordonjcp I'm using an empty part of the disk
[12:32] <bekks> midhuno: I cant help you, since I dont have a D270 and I dont have ATI at all.
[12:32] <gordonjcp> Domincii: but you said you already had files on that partition
[12:32] <abailarri> bekks, i tried with other ftp client with the same configuration, and it works perfectly
[12:33] <CorvusCorax> midhuno: I have ati, and I have the same issue, I solved it. I'll PM you
[12:33] <CorvusCorax> too late
[12:33] <CorvusCorax> well
[12:33] <bekks> abailarri: You could create a bug report then.
[12:33] <CorvusCorax> ppl just dont listen
[12:33] <blackshirt> jj99, i dont know what you mean
[12:33] <CorvusCorax> !listen |CorvusCorax
[12:33] <Domincii> Nooooo, I have a 1tb hard drive, it has 15gb of important data on it, I want to install Ubuntu 12.10 on part of it that has nothing on it
[12:33] <abailarri> bekks, where?
[12:34] <CorvusCorax> Domincii, then make that part with nothing on it "ext3" and mount it as /
[12:34] <jj99> well i wanted to use ubuntu for programming but there is something fuucked up when i try to do an install so figured i'd try a ubuntu vm but not quite sure if it's viable due to performance
[12:34] <Domincii> CorvusCorax, thanks
[12:34] <jj99> i have an asus 55vw laptop
[12:35] <Jordan_U> jj99: Please watch your language.
[12:35] <CorvusCorax> !language |CorvusCorax
[12:35] <CorvusCorax> >;)
[12:36] <Jordan_U> jj99: Without GPU accelleration, Ubuntu 12.10 is almost unbearably slow in its default configuration (as it uses a "3D" Desktop Environment).
[12:36] <jj99> hmh yeah just installed and noticed it
[12:37] <Jordan_U> jj99: That said, with some virtual machine software you can get 3D accelleration after installing the right drivers, and you can also use a different desktop environment which doesn't use 3D rendering.
[12:37] <systemclient> I'd like to duplicate the default GRUB 2 entry and add some power saving parameters to it. How can I do that?
[12:37] <jj99> okay so it is probably doable but i need to do some tinkering
[12:38] <blackshirt> systemclient looks under some files at /etc/grub.d/
[12:38] <jj99> i've been using centos vms for all kinds of stuff and they have been ok so figured why not ubuntu 8)
[12:38] <jj99> Jordan_U thank you for your time
[12:38] <CorvusCorax> Hi. How do I report a bug about an ubuntu core component on launchpad? I already registered with launchpad and I did search existing bugs and came up empty. I can"t find where to make a new bug
[12:39] <yeats> !bug | CorvusCorax
[12:39] <Jordan_U> jj99: You're welcome. If you don't want to have to do any tinkering, then use Xubuntu or Lubuntu (neither of which use 3D window managers by default).
[12:39] <TheJoebocop_> I need help
[12:39] <gordonjcp> !help | TheJoebocop_
[12:39] <Seppoz> hello, what is UPower Daemon
[12:40] <Jordan_U> Seppoz: http://upower.freedesktop.org/
[12:41] <Seppoz> why is it messing up my usb serial converter?
[12:41] <CorvusCorax> !ty
[12:41] <gordonjcp> Seppoz: what makes you think it's messing up your usb serial converter?
[12:41] <Jordan_U> CorvusCorax: Please play with the bot either in PM or in #ubuntu-bots.
[12:42] <cure777> How to install ubuntu in smartphone?
[12:42] <Seppoz> because if its turned on my device is not useable anymore, i get device or ressource busy all the time, then my protocol is messed up
[12:42] <Seppoz> when i turn it off all works fine
[12:43] <TheJoebocop> gordonjcp: It's a hard to explain, long question though
[12:43] <almoxarife> cure777: i dont think ubuntu android is out yet
[12:43] <gordonjcp> Seppoz: so it sounds like it's trying to talk to whichever serial device your usb-to-serial cable shows up as
[12:44] <Seppoz> yea but thats strange aint it?
[12:44] <gordonjcp> could it be related to this?
[12:45] <gordonjcp> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=668932
[12:45] <gordonjcp> in particular comment 2
[12:45] <gordonjcp> and maybe also comment 6
[12:46] <CorvusCorax> Jordan_U, sorry, i did the ! by accident. i meant "ty yeats"
[12:49] <Ihsan_> Hello, I recently installed Moonlight on my new Ubuntu (12.10 64bit) machine. Whenever I open an application (of my school) that uses silverlight (moonlight) I get the following error: Could not call webservice. expected ';' (3B) but found '=' (3D) Line 32, position 115. -> What could be the possible problem for this and solution? Thanks in advance
[12:50] <ubuntu> hi
[12:51] <unrar> It may be bad writen.
[12:52] <TheJoebocop> I made this yesterday but so far I've gotten no help http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2085316
[12:53] <MaxFrames> no wonder
[12:54] <TheJoebocop_> !help http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2085316
[12:54] <gordonjcp> Seppoz: did that solve your problem?
[12:55] <yeats> Ihsan_: that project was abandoned - see this: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2012/06/linux-silverlight-plugin-moonlight-abandoned
[12:55] <MaxFrames> TheJoebocop_: are you connected to the problematic wifi network now?
[12:55] <TheJoebocop_> I am yes
[12:56] <MaxFrames> thought so ;)
[12:56] <backupdrive> what would happen if i do not upgrade to latest ubuntu
[12:56] <Ihsan_> Oh :(, so how will I be able to run silverlight programs properly?
[12:56] <Seppoz> yes
[12:56] <Seppoz> ty
[12:56] <bekks> backupdrive: Then you'll stay on an older version, possibly an LTS.
[12:56] <MaxFrames> backupdrive: are you on 12.04 LTS?
[12:56] <gordonjcp> Seppoz: cool
[12:56] <TheJoebocop_> any help then?
[12:57] <gordonjcp> Seppoz: there's probably a corresponding Ubuntu bug in Launchpad
[12:57] <yeats> Ihsan_: you can try using Firefox/Silverlight on wine, but depending on what you need to do, that may not cut it
[12:57] <unrar> you won't
[12:57] <gordonjcp> Seppoz: go find it, register with Launchpad, and mark it as affecting you
[12:57] <MaxFrames> TheJoebocop_: can you delete all the wifi network clones from the network manager and start clean?
[12:57] <backupdrive> 11.04
[12:57] <Bustacap> How do I find out what nvidia driver version number I'm running o.O
[12:57] <Ihsan_> Allright, wel I think I will be using my virutal machine whenever I nbeed to visit my school site :)
[12:58] <bekks> backupdrive: Thats not supported anymore.
[12:58] <MaxFrames> backupdrive: I suggest you move to 12.04 LTS
[12:58] <MaxFrames> 5 years of guaranteed support
[12:59] <cloudgeek> for remote
[12:59] <cloudgeek> access
[12:59] <cloudgeek> best alternative
[12:59] <MaxFrames> cloudgeek: hello
[12:59] <cloudgeek> for teamcviewr
[13:00] <MaxFrames> what a way to ask a question on irc :D
[13:00] <bekks> MaxFrames: He failed. It wanst the maximum number of lines possible ;)
[13:01] <cloudgeek> MaxFrames: best alternative software for remtoe access GUI rather than (ssh cmd line)
[13:01] <MaxFrames> and type the lines in reverse polish notation :D
[13:01] <bekks> cloudgeek: The one you want.
[13:01] <MaxFrames> vnc over ssh?
[13:02] <cloudgeek> bekks: any suggestion from your side me try vnc over ssh
[13:02] <MaxFrames> or xrdp if you're using windows on the remote side
[13:02] <bekks> cloudgeek: I'd use nxclient/nxserver.
[13:03] <cloudgeek> bekks: thanks , i need if i have slow connection give best performance
[13:03] <MaxFrames> bbl... baby's waken up
[13:04] <cloudgeek> fro helping my friends
[13:06] <Onixs> is 6755=06755 ?
[13:07] <iuser> no
[13:08] <Onixs> whats the 0 then
[13:08] <mistaknly> Quick question...
[13:10] <mistaknly> Anybody there that can answer a Live CD question?
[13:10] <bekks> mistaknly: Not without knowing the question...
[13:10] <brontosaurusrex> !ask
[13:10] <mistaknly> Only have CD, not DVD drive
[13:11] <mistaknly> So I have to use the LTS version? Or is there a way to get the release version on a CD?
[13:11] <dr_willis> lubuntu 12.10 can fit on a cd i belive  or the minimal install image can go on a cd.. or use a USB stick
[13:11] <mistaknly> 12.10 is 758MB
[13:11] <gordonjcp> dr_willis: you do still need a lot of disk space for Lubuntu
[13:11] <dr_willis> 12.10 Ububntu is a DVD correct.
[13:12] <OerHeks> There are 800 mb cd+r
[13:12] <gordonjcp> dr_willis: I suspect that's a packaging bug though, because there's *no way* a Lubuntu install really needs 4GB
[13:12] <gordonjcp> don't use optical media, use USB
[13:12] <jiohdi> you can get bodhi linux 2.0 which is basically extremely light ubuntu 12.4
[13:12] <mistaknly> Yeah, my machine won't boot from USB, boohoo...
[13:13] <mistaknly> old, old, old
[13:13] <bekks> jiohdi: And which is not supported in here.
[13:13] <dr_willis> [   ] lubuntu-12.10-alternate-amd64.iso                           17-Oct-2012 07:27  648M
[13:13] <bekks> mistaknly: 12.04 will be supported for 5 years, 12.10 only 18 months.
[13:13] <mistaknly> x86
[13:13] <dr_willis> [   ] lubuntu-12.10-desktop-amd64.iso                             17-Oct-2012 18:14  699M
[13:13] <OerHeks> mistaknly, get the minimal like dr_willis suggested, and install Unity/gnome desktop tru internet.
[13:13] <jiohdi> bekks, its just a gutted ubuntu
[13:13] <dr_willis> for an old old old machine.. Lubuntu may be a better option
[13:13] <bekks> jiohdi: And not supported in here.
[13:14] <hex20dec> I'm so sick and tired of updates ALWAYS and I mean ALWAYS ruining my OS.
[13:14] <hex20dec> Please help me once and for all, why is this always happening to me? The updates window popped up and all I did was let it update. Now my OS resolution is huge and for some reason it doesn't want to accept my password either. It's always something different.
[13:14] <hex20dec> What am I doing wrong?
[13:14] <mistaknly> ok thanks guys
[13:14] <jiohdi> bekks, no one is looking for support, but if someone needs to get ubuntu on a cd thats one way to do it, then just build back up from there
[13:15] <OerHeks> hex20dec, sounds like you installed videodrivers manually, you need to build them every time there is a kernel update.
[13:16] <hex20dec> OerHeks: Mind helping me out here on how to do this?
[13:18] <OerHeks> hex20dec, you could do this tru a script, http://askubuntu.com/questions/111177/triggering-driver-module-rebuild-on-kernel-update
[13:22] <ix_> would it work if I make a windows usb with dd? :)
[13:22] <ix_> I'd like to update my bios and I have no idea how
[13:24] <jiohdi> ix_, you would have to visit the bios manufacturers website and see if they have a firmware update
[13:24] <ix_> jiohdi, I already know that there is an update
[13:24] <jiohdi> there should be instructions on what to do, probably requires burning a cd
[13:25] <ix_> jiohdi, I don't have an optical drive on that pc
[13:25] <jiohdi> messing up the bios and you wont have any sort of computer
[13:25] <ix_> jiohdi, I know that much
[13:26] <jiohdi> is the bios causing errors?
[13:26] <OerHeks> ix_, maybe just burn the .bio like a data cd, and update from within the bios?
[13:27] <Led_Zeppelin> I have a graphics card with a DVI and VGA. CAn I use dual monitors for that ?
[13:27] <ix_> OerHeks, it says that the .bio is for recovery of the bios in case it is left unusable
[13:27] <tarelerulz> I ran teamspeak for an script and  it works ,but I can't see it now on any screen .  Is there restore so I can see it again
[13:28] <jiohdi> Led_Zeppelin, if it works, I doubt you can do more than clone one screen to the other
[13:28] <Led_Zeppelin> i see
[13:29] <Led_Zeppelin> i already have 2 video cards. card 1, vga only. card 2 , vga  + dvi. I have dual monitor setup. was wondering if I can do 3 monitor setu
[13:29] <P-Chan> HI guys I creating UBUNTU customized for live usb. How does I save user preferences in root? wallpapers, themes and etc
[13:30] <ix_> OerHeks, look here http://tinyurl.com/bb324zs it says that it can boot from the usb, I just don't understand how
[13:30] <jiohdi> P-Chan, user preferences are usually in hidden files on the /home/user directory
[13:30] <iuser> ubuntu doesn't support persistence in casper mode
[13:30] <iuser> afaik
[13:31] <P-Chan> jiohdi: HOW MOVE to root
[13:31] <P-Chan> because home use root preferences
[13:31] <jiohdi> p-chan you can open a browser as root or sudo and then move anything anywhere you like
[13:31] <jiohdi> file manager that is
[13:31] <P-Chan> ok
[13:32] <CorvusCorax> I filed a bug report, is this an apropriate bug report or do I have to add information? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-settings-daemon/+bug/1080344
[13:32] <P-Chan> jiohdi: is this affects globally?
[13:32] <jiohdi> P-Chan, what does that mean?
[13:33] <P-Chan> jiohdi: I saved my preferences in hard drive but I want use my preferences in live usb too
[13:33] <jiohdi> you may have to change owners
[13:34] <jiohdi> or permissions
[13:34] <hex20dec> OerHeks: Sorry about the delay.. Uhmm.. I haven't installed any drivers manually.
[13:35] <TomyLobo> hi i'm trying to run jd-gui (an i386 app) on ubuntu 12.04 LTS amd64. This is what i get: http://pastebin.com/9wNtfvBa
[13:36] <TomyLobo> the app apears to run normally, but i'm still concerned about those warnings hinting at a bug in multiarch
[13:36] <hex20dec> OerHeks: Do I still need to go through that process in the link you sent me to?
[13:37] <OerHeks> hex20dec, yes, this time manually
[13:37] <TomyLobo> i tried to install the i386 version of appmenu-gtk (which contains that file), but wasn't able to do so because it conflicts with the amd64 version
[13:39] <TomyLobo> (resolved the oxygen-gtk warning in the meantime. looks much better now :))
[13:39] <hex20dec> OerHeks: It clearly says: "This guide is not aimed at users who have installed the drivers using EnvyNG or via the default Ubuntu mechanism."
[13:39] <vivid> TomyLobo, yeah you cant have both appmenu-gtk and appmenu-gtk:i386 at the same time
[13:40] <vivid> you could probably use LD_PRELOAD though...
[13:40] <OerHeks> hex20dec, envyNG is very old method to use win drivers
[13:40] <TomyLobo> vivid eh? manually specifying library paths?
[13:40] <JeffBauer> hey buddies, i still can't enable 3D on my AMD Hybrid notebook HP G42 :(
[13:41] <hex20dec> OerHeks: I was talking about the ubuntu mechanism, which is how I got my drivers, I never installed any of them manually, it was all installed with the OS.
[13:41] <TomyLobo> i'm not even sure what that library does or why jd-gui needs it
[13:41] <vivid> no, if you download the i386 libappmenu.so, you can do say... 'LD_PRELOAD=/path/to/libappmenu.so program"
[13:41] <hex20dec> OerHeks: Sorry, I'm just a bit confused as to why I need to run this..
[13:42] <OerHeks> hex20dec, oke, then you didn't install them bij downloading and applying yourself, then forget about this script, not suitable for you
[13:42] <vivid> hex20dec, its probably theres a misunderstanding what your problem is.  it is not common or usual to have symptoms like yours
[13:42] <OerHeks> indeed, like vivid says
[13:43]  * OerHeks got the wrong conclusion
[13:43] <dr_willis> EnvyNG? that may be a very old guide if it mentions EnvyNG
[13:43] <hex20dec> OerHeks: I'm glad you did, because I didn't want to go through this.
[13:43] <hex20dec> =P
[13:43] <JeffBauer>  HP G42-371 - Turion P560 2,5GHz, DDR3, ATI Radeon HD 6370M
[13:44] <JeffBauer> can't enable my gpu :(
[13:44] <vivid> TomyLobo, so, if you go to http://packages.ubuntu.com/ and download the i386 appmenu-gtk package, you can extract it to your desktop and use LD_PRELOAD to inject the correct libappmenu.so when you run the app
[13:44] <TomyLobo> vivid yup i know
[13:44] <vivid> k
[13:44] <hex20dec> As I stated before, why do I always get screwed after installing updates? What am I doing wrong? and how do I fix my video driver now?
[13:44] <dr_willis> JeffBauer:  those Hybrid Gfx setups are the current 'top 10' issue these days.
[13:45] <vivid> hex20dec, maybe start with which video card and video driver youre using?
[13:45] <JeffBauer> dr_willis, oh that's so bad.. i'm about to downgrade to 10.04, because the proprietary driver works on it
[13:45] <dr_willis> JeffBauer: im suprised it does.
[13:46] <hex20dec> vivid: No video card, it's onboard video.
[13:46] <JeffBauer> dr_willis, perfectelly
[13:47] <dr_willis> i find it hard to belive drivers from 2 yrs ago work 'perfectly' on a new ati chipset. but  do whatever you want.
[13:47] <dr_willis> could be its just ignoreign the 'right' thing
[13:47] <dr_willis> ignoreing ;)
[13:47] <hex20dec> vivid: So? What do I do?
[13:47] <dr_willis> vivid:  onboard video IS a video card
[13:47] <dr_willis> oops that was for hex20dec  ;)
[13:47] <hex20dec> I know, but it isn't a card.
[13:48] <vivid> maybe 'lspci | grep vga' would shed some light
[13:48] <dr_willis> hex20dec:  #1 - determine your exact video CHIPSET
[13:48] <dr_willis> happy now? ;)
[13:48] <hex20dec> dr_willis: Yes. =]
[13:48] <vivid> lspci | grep -i vga
[13:48] <hex20dec> Will try now, thanks.
[13:48] <dr_willis> and it is on the pci buss so it is a video card. ;)
[13:49] <hex20dec> vivid: 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82Q963/Q965 Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 02)
[13:53] <hex20dec> vivid: dr_willis: Okay, chipset determined, now what?
[13:53] <dr_willis> i dont even know your original problem.. i was feeding my dog.. ;)
[13:53] <hex20dec> Lol
[13:53] <graingert> JeffBauer: what's your issue?
[13:54] <dr_willis> intel drivers should be included by default anyway
[13:54] <hex20dec> It was, but after a normal update I lost them.
[13:55] <dr_willis> you mean a  upgrade from one reelase to the next? or a update  but staying on the same release
[13:55] <hex20dec> My OS always get screwed after an update, every single time. I don't know what I'm doing wrong. I'm just allowing the update to happen. =[
[13:55] <hex20dec> Simple update.
[13:55] <dr_willis> tried a
[13:55] <hex20dec> ?
[13:55] <dr_willis> tried a  'sudo apt-get dist-upgrade' ?
[13:55] <hex20dec> No.
[13:56] <hex20dec> Should I?
[13:56] <dr_willis> ive rarely had updated break things. but a kernel update could i guess have regressions or other bugs
[13:56] <dr_willis> what do you hjave to lose. ;)
[13:56] <hex20dec> a lot!
[13:56] <dr_willis> dist-upgrade is a bit like a more hard-core upgrade
[13:56] <dr_willis> so your system is working?  whats it doing exactly right now..
[13:56] <hex20dec> Yeah, if update ruins my OS, I don't want to know what dist-upgrade will do.
[13:57] <hex20dec> Graphic driver is lost.
[13:57] <hex20dec> How do I get it back?
[13:57] <bekks> hex20dec: How did you install it...?
[13:57] <hex20dec> Last time I installed an update I wasn't able to log to my user, had to create a new one.
[13:57] <dr_willis> 'what is your system doing when you boot up exatly?'
[13:57] <hex20dec> The update gui pop up.
[13:58] <bekks> hex20dec: So how did you install the graphics driver last time?
[13:58] <hex20dec> Was installed upon OS installation.
[13:58] <hex20dec> Onboard card.
[13:58] <hex20dec> Onboard video.
[13:58] <fairuz_> Hi anyone know about Ubuntu for Android from Canonical. How they do it? Same kernel with 2 OS? Or Ubuntu somehow runs in Android ?
[13:59] <bekks> hex20dec: Which chipset?
[13:59] <hex20dec> 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82Q963/Q965 Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 02)
[13:59] <hex20dec> dr_willis: What is it doing? Nothing, just booting normally.
[14:00] <vivid> fairuz, its not "released" yet, but i heard they have some focus on the nexus 7 with 13.04
[14:01] <vivid> fairuz, if you youtube 'ubuntu nexus 7' im sure you can find some people that have installed it on the device, but the usuability and performance is pretty low
[14:02] <hex20dec> dr_willis: But seriously, why do I always have something messed up after updates?
[14:02] <vivid> hex20dec, do you have some random ppa enabled?
[14:02] <dr_willis> hex20dec:  no idea. you are in the vast minority
[14:02] <fairuz_> vivid: Yea I know it's not released yet. Just curious how they did it.
[14:02] <DarsVaeda> how do you uninstall that youtube firefox integration? what is it called can't find it in the software center
[14:03] <fairuz_> Is it basically Ubuntu chrooted in existing Android?
[14:03] <hex20dec> vivid: If I knew what ppa was I might answer your question.
[14:03] <vivid> fairuz_, im pretty sure its just standard ubuntu installed on the root of the device.  work needs to be done to improve usability
[14:03] <dr_willis> kernel updates can have regressions. but those are normally fixed quickly. and you can alwyas select an older kenrnel to get back to the older kernel and drivers
[14:03] <fairuz_> vivid: I don't think it's standard Ubuntu
[14:03] <fairuz_> since Android is running concurrently with Ubuntu
[14:03] <vivid> oh, i havent seen any that run them both.  just one or the other
[14:04] <dr_willis> DarsVaeda:  what Firefox Youtube integeration?
[14:04] <SolarisBoy> well for one its most likely a kernel compiled for whatever architecture nexus7's runs
[14:04] <DarsVaeda> it gives you shortcuts to youtube and a launcher integration
[14:04] <vivid> dr_willis, in 12.10 they have web app style links to web pages
[14:04] <DarsVaeda> also it takes over the fullscreen mode of youtube (but not working)
[14:04] <hex20dec> dr_willis: Well, do you know how to fix my issue and install my missing driver?
[14:04] <fairuz_> vivid: They said both are using the same kernel
[14:05] <fairuz_> I'm interested to know how they do it.
[14:05] <DarsVaeda> oh it is called WebApps
[14:06] <vivid> DarsVaeda, yes, unity-webapps-youtube
[14:06] <hex20dec> I can't believe no one here can help me install a simple driver. ='[
[14:06] <DarsVaeda> vivid: ahh thanks!
[14:06] <Guest57983> hi may i ask if what the keyword/command when changing keyboard lay out
[14:07] <varikonniemi> hex20dec, with linux you are out of luck with kernel mode drivers, it is a pain if it not automated
[14:07] <arslan> Hi are there a ubuntu mini desktop version, i have server now ?
[14:08] <varikonniemi> so i guess that requires expertise not readily available here
[14:08] <varikonniemi> arslan, mini version?
[14:08] <varikonniemi> there is the mini.iso net install image
[14:08] <arslan> yes i need ubuntu mini dekstop versiion
[14:08] <arslan> some dont need many resource
[14:08] <varikonniemi> it comes as alternate
[14:08] <Guest57983> My laptop i bougth is taiwan ang theres a num keypad on the alphabet and need function key to activate the numpad, may problem is the num keypaf is activated without pressing function key
[14:09] <varikonniemi> arslan, http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/netboot/12.10/
[14:09] <arslan> Variokeonni i mean some like kde and other
[14:09] <arslan> little ubuntu desktop version
[14:10] <arslan> i have a ubuntu server now, and i want to transfer to desktop
[14:10] <varikonniemi> then install ubuntu normal?
[14:10] <vivid> arslan, if you want a light desktop, probably lubuntu is your best bet
[14:10] <vivid> otherwise you have standard ubuntu, kubuntu or xubuntu
[14:10] <varikonniemi> vidi, ?
[14:10] <arslan> ok what are best?
[14:10] <vivid> thats up to you, its all opinion
[14:10] <vivid> i like ubuntu myself
[14:11] <varikonniemi> if your computer can run it i recommend ubuntu
[14:11] <arslan> aha
[14:11] <varikonniemi> otherwise lubuntu
[14:11] <arslan> its a small right ?
[14:11] <varikonniemi> CD image is ~700megs
[14:11] <varikonniemi> and on disk it is very small compared to windows
[14:11] <arslan> and can i install apt-get software there?
[14:11] <taiga> hello
[14:12] <taiga> can you help me with something?
[14:12] <unrar>  I don't like LXDE
[14:12] <varikonniemi> yes all variants of ubuntu have apt-get
[14:12] <unrar> XFCE
[14:12] <unrar> And compatible with ubuntu ppa
[14:12] <varikonniemi> taiga, don't ask to ask
[14:12] <LinuxFreakD> I am transfering 950 GB from one SATAII HDD to another, both plugged into motherboard. Source drive is ext4 and destination drive is ntfs. It said 23 hours to transfer. Isn't that rather slow, as in I should be looking into fixing it?
[14:12] <taiga> varikonniemi, then what should i do?
[14:12] <arslan> arh ok varikonniemi thanks for help
[14:12] <arslan> i will try lubuntu
[14:12] <varikonniemi> taiga, just ask :D
[14:13] <taiga> right. well my livecd doesn't boot
[14:13] <vivid> taiga, just ask the question you have, if someone has an answer theyll respond
[14:13] <arslan> what about hacking varikonniemi its a secure?
[14:13] <taiga> it says i need "pae"
[14:13] <bekks> LinuxFreakD: Thats fairly good, since NTFS is provided by FUSE, and is pretty slow by design.
[14:13] <arslan> its will run with server.
[14:13] <unrar> then instalp a pae kernel
[14:13] <unrar> !pae
[14:13] <varikonniemi> arslan, all linux is very secure
[14:13] <arslan> hehe ok
[14:13] <unrar> !pae > taiga
[14:13] <taiga> i have like under 1GB ram anyway
[14:13] <LinuxFreakD> bekks: ah ok. Thanks. I just wanted to make sure I wasn't sitting here unnecessarily long.
[14:14] <taiga> it just doesn't boot
[14:14] <unrar> And what's the error? When do you see it?
[14:14] <varikonniemi> taiga if you do not hav pae support your setup is so old i think you should forget ubuntu
[14:15] <taiga> it was actually lubuntu but their channel is dead and the name sounds similar
[14:15] <varikonniemi> 12.04 might still work but not 12.10
[14:15] <varikonniemi> taiga, you could try linux mint
[14:15] <varikonniemi> they ship non-pae kernels
[14:15] <taiga> well i don't think using an obsolete version is a good idea
[14:15] <varikonniemi> 12.04 is not obsolete
[14:15] <taiga> linux mint hmm
[14:16] <unrar> Linux Mint = Ubuntu without Unity
[14:16] <taiga> do they have "lubuntu" too
[14:16] <unrar> It's better IMHO
[14:16] <varikonniemi> no their default desktop is lightweight gnome
[14:16] <OerHeks> hex20dec, i have bean searching for your  Intel Corporation 82Q963/Q965 , but no solution on 12.04/12.10
[14:16] <unrar> They have a KDE and a XFCE edition
[14:16] <unrar> But not LXDE
[14:16] <taiga> i need the lubuntu kind of ubuntu
[14:16] <taiga> umm
[14:16] <varikonniemi> thats linux mint with mate
[14:16] <taiga> you know what i mean, right
[14:16] <unrar> you can install the xfce version and then install lxde
[14:16] <varikonniemi> mate = gnome2.x
[14:16] <unrar> yep
[14:17] <hex20dec> OerHeks: Thanks man! =] I appreciate it even though you didn't find anything.
[14:17] <unrar> and Cinnamon is a shell for gnome 3
[14:17] <raavi_> Hi all
[14:17] <taiga> it's a pentium m, xfce is kinda... slow there
[14:17] <ix_> I get a blinking cursor after grub sometimes and it freezes, if I force a reboot, it works fine, how can I find out what is wrong?
[14:17] <varikonniemi> taiga, well
[14:17] <taiga> i've tried xubuntu a few years ago
[14:17] <LinuxFreakD> bekks, what if I changed the partition to fat32 about how long would you say it would take to transfer 950 gigs to it/
[14:17] <varikonniemi> taiga, have you had linux running before?
[14:18] <raavi_> Do anybody if gnome-commander supports trash usage or it is deleting permanently files?
[14:18] <varikonniemi> i installed lubuntu on my 1.3 ghz celeron with 512 ram, and anything slower will be a pian if you manage to get it to work
[14:18] <varikonniemi> 1.13ghz
[14:18] <taiga> yeah but i switched back to windows due to slowness
[14:18] <varikonniemi> xp?
[14:18] <taiga> yes
[14:18] <pippo> ciao
[14:18] <varikonniemi> yes.. thats like 10 years old
[14:18] <pippo> !list
[14:18] <varikonniemi> lubuntu is like some months
[14:18] <ix_> taiga, you switched to windows because Linux is slow? :))
[14:19] <varikonniemi> xp has less overhead on many tasks than linux
[14:19] <taiga> well i don't want to use xp cause i have "badram" and i can't but it into kernel options for windows, that's what i heard anyway
[14:19] <varikonniemi> that os is obsolete ;)
[14:19] <vivid> i still use it ... :o
[14:20] <TomyLobo> the things you can strip from xp are tiny compared to linux
[14:20] <varikonniemi> so you tried 12.10 and it said it need pae? then i can only say linux mint because they ship non-pae in at least linux mint debian edition
[14:20] <taiga> i actually use server 2003 that i got from a friend
[14:20] <varikonniemi> but also they are removing it soon
[14:20] <varikonniemi> so it just says your computer is too old for mainstream distributions
[14:21] <TomyLobo> if linux is too slow for you, remove a few services and switch to XFCE or something
[14:21] <taiga> why do i need pae if i have only 700M ram?
[14:21] <ix_> not xfce, switch to openbox
[14:21] <varikonniemi> because the pae kernel is the default kernel
[14:21] <varikonniemi> and they don't care to maintain the obsolete i386 kernel
[14:21] <taiga> umm.. livecd doesn't boot
[14:22] <ix_> I can show you an openbox desktop that uses 23 MB of RAM
[14:22] <vivid> taiga, did you try the alternate cd?
[14:22] <taiga> no, i wanted to try it first
[14:23] <OerHeks> varikonniemi, there is a non-pea build iso > http://people.canonical.com/~diwic/12.04-nonpae/
[14:24] <varikonniemi> nice, is there also for 12.10 ?
[14:24] <OerHeks> nope :9
[14:24] <varikonniemi> :{
[14:24] <hex20dec> OerHeks: Thanks again, and if you're still looking for it I think you should stop. I'm going to sleep.. GN
[14:24] <ix_> varikonniemi, check out Debian
[14:24] <varikonniemi> me? why
[14:24] <ix_> varikonniemi, didn't you want a non-pae kernel?
[14:25] <varikonniemi> no i helped him who wanted
[14:25] <ix_> oh
 so you tried 12.10 and it said it need pae? then i can only say linux mint because they ship non-pae in at least linux mint debian edition
[14:25] <gnubie> taiga> non pae capable cpus wont work/boot with 12.10 and 12.04(supported ti 1217) have to be installed with net install
[14:26] <gnubie> 2017
[14:26] <varikonniemi> lubuntu is though not
[14:26] <varikonniemi> LTE
[14:26] <varikonniemi> LTS
[14:26] <varikonniemi> :D
[14:26] <JeffBauer> graingert, please, i can't enable my 3D driver
[14:29] <vivid> JeffBauer, which release and video card?
[14:30] <darthdeus> can i do something like `sudo -u deploy -i foo` without losing the directory where i invoke the command? if i do it this way, it will be run in the deploy's home
[14:31] <VlanX> anyone with a bluray burner with Ubuntu?
[14:31] <JeffBauer> vivid, ubuntu 12.10 and 01:05.0 VGA compatible controller: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI RS880M [Mobility Radeon HD 4200 Series]  and 02:00.0 VGA compatible controller: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI Robson CE [AMD Radeon HD 6300 Series]
[14:32] <vivid> JeffBauer, if you press the super key (windows key) type in software sources and go to the additional drivers tab, you should have a list of available drivers for your card
[14:32] <xrfang> Hi there, do you still see the "Startup Applications" from the system menu (top right corner of screen)?
[14:32] <vivid> xrfang, it seems to be missing from 12.10
[14:32] <JeffBauer> vivid, the don't enable 3D, i've already tried that
[14:32] <xrfang> vivid, is there any reason for this, or is it a bug?
[14:32] <vivid> xrfang, i dont know, probably by design
[14:33] <novaspirit> hi im' having a problem with ubuquity installation plugininstall.py console_setup failed with code 1
[14:34] <xrfang> then now to edit startup applications in 12.10 ?
[14:34] <vivid> xrfang, press the super key and type in startup
[14:36] <JeffBauer> vivid, the driver i've downloaded from ati.com worked on ubuntu 10.04, but won't work on ubuntu 12.10
[14:36] <xrfang> vivid, it did not find any program
[14:36] <vivid> JeffBauer, if youre on a laptop, its possible theres another gpu in the way, im not sure how to resolve that for an amd card
[14:37] <vivid> xrfang, try gnome-session-properties
[14:37] <xrfang> vivid, that's it, thanks.
[14:38] <darthdeus> can i change a user who is running a script?
[14:38] <darthdeus> if i execute sometihng as root, but i need to run from some point as a different user
[14:38]  * darthdeus i tried
[14:38] <darthdeus> sudo -u deploy -i; whoami
[14:38] <darthdeus> but it still returns root
[14:38] <CorvusCorax> Question: in unity, where do I find a categorized main menu? other than the "dash/home" thingy
[14:39] <vivid> CorvusCorax, if you press super+a theres a filter option on the top right of the dash
[14:40] <CorvusCorax> ah ok
[14:40] <Orion78> How to report bug in apport?
[14:41] <CorvusCorax> would "ubuntu-bug apport" work?
[14:41] <Orion78> CorvusCorax: no, it crashes
[14:41] <frederick> anybody know how to install tablet driver?
[14:42] <CorvusCorax> Orion78, then you might have to report via the webpage, theres a url to report bugs manually
[14:42] <CorvusCorax> in launchpad
[14:42] <CorvusCorax> !bug |Orion78
[14:42] <Orion78> I was trying to find it, but all I find is a page with help on how to use apport to report bugs, which in my case is pretty annoing.
[14:43] <CorvusCorax> the link is somewhere on that page,lemme find it ...
[14:43] <akashj87> Hey guys ....need one help......From local, we use ssh<EMAIL_ADDRESS>, then afte typing in password .....we do su - appname ..then we do a sftp<EMAIL_ADDRESS>to get a file
[14:43] <akashj87> any pointers to get this done using a script ?
[14:43] <akashj87> tried stackexhange : http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/56039/script-to-get-file-from-sftp-and-run-it
[14:43] <akashj87> but no update as of now
[14:44] <CorvusCorax> Orion78: http://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/PACKAGENAME/+filebug?no-redirect
[14:44] <CorvusCorax> so I guess u'd replace PACKAGEname with apport
[14:44] <frederick> anybody can give me a help with my driver installation??
[14:44] <frederick> help
[14:44] <Orion78> CorvusCorax: Thank you.
[14:44] <triple5-daniel> hey I have some trouble, when on the command line (tty) I get continous output of errors
[14:45] <CorvusCorax> triple5-daniel, which tty and what errord, can you post a pastebin?
[14:45] <triple5-daniel> I want to catch those somewhere else to record for example 1>errors.txt
[14:45] <CorvusCorax> usually errors go to stderr so it'd be 2>errors.txt
[14:46] <CorvusCorax> but if its a program thats already running it migh be more tricky
[14:46] <triple5-daniel> CourvusCorax: any tty as soon as I log in , basically exryptfs_writer:Error encrypting page; rc= [-30]
[14:46] <frederick> i have a UGEE RAINBOW TABLET,but i can not let it work in my ubuntu studio
[14:46] <frederick> anybody can help??thank you very much
[14:47] <triple5-daniel> I just want to catch those errors to paste them in pastebin, but don't know how.
[14:47] <CorvusCorax> triple5-daniel that might be tricky, since its something that gets started from your profile. you might want to check your .bashrc .profile or /etc/profile or /etc/bashrc to see what else gets started and redirect it there
[14:48] <triple5-daniel> I tried vi but everything gets flooded by those errors
[14:48] <CorvusCorax> it could also be kernel error messages, that would be an indicator that syslog inst running
[14:48] <triple5-daniel> can I turn it of from very low level?
[14:48] <CorvusCorax> kernel errors go to the tty if no syslog is running
[14:49] <CorvusCorax> well you can turn off the tty but that doesn't help much
[14:49] <CorvusCorax> does it also happen when you login as root ?
[14:49] <triple5-daniel> I need some terminal to analyse etc. yes, also as root
[14:49] <triple5-daniel> not when I login as unprivileged user
[14:49] <BluesKaj> Hey all
[14:50] <Annoyed> Greetings... Anyone familiar with 12.10 bug # 1068341   Nvida drivers and the kernel headers not being sucked in as a dependancy?
[14:50] <CorvusCorax> hmm if its OK as unprivileged, you could login unprivileged then and do su or sudo /bin/bash
[14:50] <triple5-daniel> frederick: don't post private messages, just post in the channel, best if you read the guidelines how to ask good questions...
[14:50] <CorvusCorax> but honestly, rediecting the stdout or stderr of a program that is already running is very tricky
[14:51] <CorvusCorax> it has to b done when that program is started
[14:51] <CorvusCorax> you could try to find out which program generates the errors and just kill it
[14:52] <triple5-daniel> i see failed command: READ FPDMA QUEUED
[14:53] <CorvusCorax> triple5-daniel, looks a lot like kernel errors to me. can you manually start syslog?
[14:53] <CorvusCorax> like /usr/sbin/rsyslogd
[14:54] <CorvusCorax> it should hopefully interept kernel errors and put thm into /var/log/syslog instead
[14:54] <sudaya> hi all how to install skype in 12.10 ?
[14:54] <Seveas> !skype
[14:56] <djtf> sudaya: If you visit Skype's website, there is a download available for .deb installation package. Download that file, right click on it in your file manager, and open it using the Ubuntu Software Center.
[14:56] <triple5-daniel> CorvusCorax: I have rsyslogd running. now the flow stopped and I can open syslog, the errors are there, I will paste from pastebin...
[14:56] <Annoyed> Greetings... Anyone familiar with 12.10 bug # 1068341   Nvida drivers and the kernel headers not being sucked in as a dependancy?
[14:57] <sudaya> djtf: i get download link for 12.04 only and i am using 64 bit 12.10
[14:58] <CorvusCorax> @triple5-daniel thats a good start
[14:58] <djtf> sudaya: That package will download and install just fine on 12.10.
[14:59] <kryuko> ciaooooooo
[14:59] <MoL0ToV> hi boys my webcam don't work on ubuntu 12.10: http://www.pastebin.ca/2252711 someone can help me?
[14:59] <djtf> sudaya: I believe they're only packaging it for long-term support releases.
[15:00] <TUX420> I have an odd issue, how someone can help. I'm trying to format an eSATA drive but when I format it seems to be trying to access one of my CD drives (light is active with no disk in).  Probably couldn't get through the installer
[15:02] <troJJin> it wouldnt
[15:02] <troJJin> ubuntu cant run on 244 ram
[15:02] <troJJin> duh
[15:02] <drag0nius> ;(
[15:02] <TUX420> might if you used xfe as yer desktop but still
[15:02] <CorvusCorax> well the kernel would
[15:02] <yeats> drag0nius: you might look into tiny distros like puppy
[15:02] <Evil_Eric> hmmm steam and ubuntu hmmmm
[15:03] <CorvusCorax> and if you use icewm or twm as a window manager x might run as well
[15:03] <drag0nius> i just received some~8 yrs comp
[15:03] <troJJin> steam is impossible on linux
[15:03] <drag0nius> 244 ram athlong 1.6ghz
[15:03] <drag0nius> 32 gpu ram
[15:03] <CorvusCorax> but dont think about running firefox, firefox doesnt run in 256 m ram anymore since firefox2. it became a memory hog in 3.x
[15:03] <Annoyed> Is anyone familiar with the issue where nvidia propriety drivers won't work right 'cause linux-headers are no longer installed  ?
[15:03] <drag0nius> any suggestions what could i run there instead of xp?
[15:03] <Evil_Eric> im actually installing the steam beta client now
[15:03] <troJJin> 32 gpu ram>?
[15:03] <TUX420> use it as a lilttle server for something/
[15:04] <atari314> Hello, I'm having this issue on my boot: ADDRCONF(NETDEV_UP): eth0: link is not ready. Does anyone know how can I disable my eth0 at kernel level?
[15:04] <troJJin> its little not lilttle
[15:04] <judahlion> I want to show the weather in conky, can someone help me please?
[15:04] <TUX420> djtf: any idea why it would be confussing the CD drive with the HDD?
[15:04] <troJJin> judahlion solution. move elsewhere
[15:04] <CorvusCorax> drag0nius, if you set enough swap space it would certainly run. allthough i wouldn't call it "run" i would call it "crawl"
[15:05] <Annoyed> drag0nius : damn small linux >
[15:05] <Annoyed> ?
[15:05] <troJJin> he has a $5 pc
[15:05] <triple5-daniel> It is pasted: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1367732 I had to do this from command line (pastebinit, so it is a rather large file)
[15:05] <CorvusCorax> I have run IceWM on a 256 MB machie for years
[15:05] <CorvusCorax> works nicely when you use a small browser like midori
[15:06] <djtf> TUX420: that's an odd one; if you try doing it from the command line and specify the device is the result the same?
[15:06] <TUX420> yeah the drive is /dex/sda (sda1 for the part) and still flashing the CDrom drive light
[15:06] <TUX420>  /dev rather
[15:07] <drag0nius> lets try lubuntu
[15:07] <troJJin> lets not and say we did
[15:07] <triple5-daniel> look at Nov 18 14:43:14 daniel-desktop gdm-password][2298]: under http://paste.ubuntu.com/1367732
[15:07] <drag0nius> i wanna give this comp to neighbors, they have none
[15:08] <triple5-daniel> here it started
[15:08] <drag0nius> wondering if there would be some better alternative than winxp
[15:08] <troJJin> Do you live in a bad neighbor hood or something?
[15:08] <CorvusCorax> troJJin, your mother has blonde hair, right?
[15:08] <troJJin> who doesnt have a pc now?
[15:08] <troJJin> No my mom has brown hair why?
[15:08] <atari314> Hello, I'm having this issue on my boot: ADDRCONF(NETDEV_UP): eth0: link is not ready. Does anyone know how can I disable my eth0 at kernel level?
[15:08] <OerHeks> !ot | troJJin
[15:08] <CorvusCorax> I think I saw you the other day in toys R us when you were complaining she wouldn't buy you that barbie doll
[15:09] <troJJin> !ot | OerHeks
[15:09] <OerHeks> CorvusCorax, please stop.
[15:09] <MoL0ToV> hi boys my webcam don't work on ubuntu 12.10: http://www.pastebin.ca/2252711 someone can help me?
[15:09] <troJJin> OerHeks O!ot
[15:09] <troJJin> OerHeks !ot
[15:10] <CorvusCorax> OerHeks, but, i have a full bucket of fish here for the dayly feeding session :)
[15:10] <troJJin> corvus that is random
[15:10] <troJJin> !ot
[15:11] <TUX420> going to disable the DVD/CD in cmos and have another go at this.
[15:11] <m000gle> Does anyone know of a way to create a symlink which can be opened in both Windows and Ubuntu? ... Whenever I make a Linux symlink, Windows fails to recognize it; and whenever I create a symlink in Windows (using the mklink command) Ubuntu fails to recognize it.
[15:11] <dr_willis> MoL0ToV:  have you tested it in 'cheese' yet?
[15:11] <troJJin> My penis is 9" - 3" +1"
[15:12] <OerHeks> !ops |  troJJin
[15:12] <CorvusCorax> m000gle, not that I know of, sorry.  Is there a way ot keep the toolbar from showing up on a second monitor?
[15:13] <OerHeks> m000gle, symlink to what?
[15:13] <troJJin> When is the next version of ubuntu coming out? around when?
[15:13] <dr_willis> ntfs/windows has some sort of softlink feature i recall.. but we had a similer discussion in here the other day. :) one guy said NTFS-3g translated the links.. but i havent tested it
[15:13] <siavashserver> troJJin: 04 and 10
[15:14] <Annoyed> 12.10 just came out... so 6 months from then
[15:14] <yeats> don't feed the troll, folks
[15:14]  * CorvusCorax puts the bucket of fish away ... "daw :-("
[15:14] <djtf> troJJin: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases
[15:15] <triple5-daniel> stop feeding trolls please
[15:15] <troJJin> thans
[15:15] <troJJin> thanks
[15:15] <djtf> CorvusCorax: didn't know they were seafood fans ;)
[15:16] <m000gle> OerHeks: Its a symlink on a shared NTFS partition, and I'm trying to get both Windows and Ubuntu to follow it the same (treat the symlink as the folder it links to)
[15:16] <triple5-daniel> So I found out that somehow my permissions on my home dir have been compromised, seems to be mounted ro...
[15:16] <gordonjcp> triple5-daniel: is /home on a separate partition?
[15:17] <triple5-daniel> I have my system on SSD and /home on hdd
[15:17] <m000gle> CorvusCorax:  Thanks.  If I'm unable to find one which works, I'll try and find a work around
[15:17] <CorvusCorax> djtf, (ot) thats from the german IT news portal "heise" - which has an almost shlashdot like forum. troll feed posts there have to include the obligatory fish <°<<<-< in them
[15:17] <CorvusCorax> m000gle, good luck
[15:17] <gordonjcp> triple5-daniel: have you tried something like "sudo mount -o remount,rw /dev/whatever/home/is/on
[15:18] <troJJin> corvus what is that post about?
[15:18] <troJJin> ? ot
[15:18] <gordonjcp> CorvusCorax: heh
[15:19] <Annoyed> Greetings... Anyone familiar with 12.10 bug # 1068341   Proprietary Nvida drivers don't work because the kernel headers not being sucked in as a dependancy anymore?
[15:19] <sheerun> Just discovered auto-apt run ./configure. Awesome!
[15:20] <troJJin> I poop every 2 - 3 weeks
[15:20] <MoL0ToV> dr_willis, yes, cheese don't find the webcam device file so i think that the uvc driver is missed or don't find my device
[15:20] <triple5-daniel> thanks gordonjcp but: cannout remount block device /dev/sdb1, is write protected
[15:20] <triple5-daniel> (that is the error message)
[15:21] <triple5-daniel> trying another reboot
[15:21] <dodi> how do I get the files required by vmware tools install?
[15:22] <OerHeks> m000gle , standard symlink uses the /d option, symbolic, use the /h option >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NTFS_symbolic_link
[15:22] <OerHeks> oh he is gone
[15:23] <vijak> hello
[15:23] <vijak> need some help... can any1 spare a minute or hour?
[15:23] <OerHeks> hi vijak, just ask
[15:24] <triple5-daniel> ah, i had done automatic check but it needed manual fsck...
[15:24] <vijak> o, hy, tnx..
[15:24] <MoL0ToV> dr_willis, suggestion?
[15:25] <vijak> i use ubuntu 12.04.. fresh installed.. now i would like to learn everything about vm box
[15:25] <vijak> got installed win xp, but cant get to HD files
[15:26] <vijak> is there any slovene channel? - > Slovenia (europe)
[15:27] <CorvusCorax> sorry vijak , no idea
[15:27] <OerHeks> vijak, join #ubuntu-si for slovenska
[15:27] <vijak> ok, tnx
[15:27] <kishimi8I> pls help how to i transit from a partial upgrade to a full upgrade  plssss
[15:27] <kishimi8I> from 12.04. to 12.10
[15:29] <djtf> kishimi8I: from a terminal, run apt-get dist-upgrade
[15:29] <dr_willis> MoL0ToV:  from what ive seen. either a webcam works.. or is totally unsupported with no drivers. its possible theres some experimental drivers for it. or somthing comming up in newer kernels.
[15:30] <kishimi8I> ok thanks will try that now
[15:31] <MoL0ToV> dr_willis, my webcam is listed on http://www.ideasonboard.org/uvc/ is a acer crystal eye webcam
[15:34] <kishimi8I> tried it .. .. now it say i need to do  apt-get -f install
[15:35] <he2> hi, how can i add my windows 7 in my grub list?
[15:35] <he2> update-grub does not work
[15:36] <Ayder> Guess there is a bug in xwindows on 12.10 when using dual monitors.  Let's say: I have a computer in a hostile/untrusted environment. How can i make sure the file system isn't modified or replaced by a 3rd party?
[15:39] <TheLordOfTime> gp5st, disable every other boot option in the bios, lock the computer from being opened, encrypt the hard drive, and lock the actual system itself inside a secure area so nobody can access it :p
[15:40] <TheLordOfTime> gp5st, unless someone physically gets access to your computer though its unlikely the filesystem'll be replaced.
[15:40] <TheLordOfTime> as for being "modified" preventing people from booting other media, and preventing people from logging into it is a start.
[15:40] <kishimi8I> quite funny  @TheLord
[15:40]  * TheLordOfTime points to the numerous additional physical-security options such as smart-card required authentication for booting, among other thigns.
[15:40] <gp5st> TheLordOfTime: physical access is my concern (think mall kiosk). I guess it could be kept in a secure box with just some wires coming out of it
[15:41] <TheLordOfTime> gp5st, that'd be a start :P
[15:42] <gp5st> TheLordOfTime: are there commercial boxes/safes available like that?
[15:42] <TheLordOfTime> no clue, since my systems all require either a USB key that I keep on my person or a smart card (also on my person) for booting.  i'm overly secure like that.
[15:43] <DTH0> hello, how do I have a program launch with a particular DE that I select from light-dm ?
[15:44] <dr_willis> DTH0:  Clarify what you mean DTH0
[15:45] <gp5st> like i said this hypothetical computer would be a mall kiosk and i'm debating having it accept credit card details. the more i think about it the more i think the end user should just place their order there and confirm it and enter in credit card details at home
[15:45] <DTH0> I want Docky to launch with my MATE session and not also when I open Unity or GS
[15:45] <MonkeyDust> DTH0  that's not how it works
[15:45] <gp5st> pci is <word(s) that cannot be said in a family friendly channel>
[15:45] <dr_willis> DTH0:  I belive theres some way to set up ~/.config/autostart/ entries for specific desktops  via editing the .desktop file for the entry
[15:46] <dr_willis> DTH0:  the /etc/xdg/autostart/   files may show some examples of doing this. ivbe noticed it for kde and gnome
[15:46] <fourq|cloud> This is the second time my 12.10 installation has lost the ability to connect to the internet. I can connect to routers fine, but no internet access. I read about others having this issue with ubuntu but I have yet to find a solution. Any suggestions??
[15:47] <dr_willis> DTH0:  or you may be able to create your own mate+docky session for the login maanger
[15:48] <DTH0> dr_willis, thanks I'll try digging that though it looks a bit complicated
[15:48] <blackshirt> !find pronzui
[15:48] <blackshirt> !find prozgui
[15:48] <blackshirt> !find gonzui
[15:49] <blackshirt> !info gonzui
[15:52] <blackshirt> what is the best web based source code browser ?
[15:54] <TheLordOfTime> !best | blackshirt
[15:55] <blackshirt> thelordoftime, okey, what do you know ?
[15:55] <TheLordOfTime> blackshirt, that's asking people of their opinions.
[15:56] <arucard> alguien sabe el requerimiento para instalar fedora 17
[15:56] <blackshirt> thelordoftime, no no.. I mean not your opinion about best, but do you know web based source code browser for linux ?
[15:56] <bazhang> arucard, #fedora
[15:57] <TheLordOfTime> blackshirt, you're still asking me my opinion.  if i'm browsing source code, i'm browsing locally, because its usually the case i know what i'm doing and dig around in it.  i don't need to worry ab0out web-based source code browsing.
[15:57] <arucard> esk tengo 1g de memoria lo soportaria
[15:57] <ert3go> Hello , I cannot add bookmarks to left side of nautilus manager..selecting the folder and ctrl+D doesn't work . Bookmarks->add bookmark also fails. Can anyone help ?
[15:57] <TheLordOfTime> blackshirt, which is why i'm not answering your question, rather avoiding it, because i dont have such  a need to know such information
[15:57]  * TheLordOfTime returns to fixing his server.
[15:58] <bazhang> arucard, /join #fedora
[15:58] <blackshirt> thelordoftime, thanks for your time guys
[15:58] <arucard> ok gracias
[16:02] <BlackNarcissus> Hello everyone. I'm trying to fix a friend's 12.04 install. It doesn't boot, fails with "Filesystem check or mount" error, fails to drop to a maintenance shell with a segmentation fault. HDD is ok, I think it's from a power failure. I'm running out of options besides reinstall. Recovery mode doesn't work either, I can't access a root shell.
[16:04] <vaequel> Hello guys
[16:04] <vaequel> I've got problem with networkmanager.
[16:04] <vaequel> I'm not albe to connect with WLAN via nm.
[16:05] <graingert> vaequel: what's the error message?
[16:06] <graingert> BlackNarcissus: smells like a reinstall. Can the live usb read the mount?
[16:06] <ert3go>  Hello , I cannot add bookmarks to left side of nautilus manager..selecting the folder and ctrl+D doesn't work . Bookmarks->add bookmark also fails. Can anyone help ?
[16:06] <vaequel> graingert: It asks me for password - Administration password. When I type it - it tells me that there is an error and I'm not albe to connect well.
[16:06] <graingert> vaequel: what error
[16:07] <graingert> vaequel: are you sure it's not asking for your WPA password
[16:07] <BlackNarcissus> graingert: Yes, filesystem mounts ok on live usb, and I did a fsck with gparted, disk utility says HDD and filesystem is ok.
[16:07] <vaequel> graingert: Would you like to get sreenshot?
[16:07] <graingert> vaequel: yup
[16:07] <vaequel> Ok. Wait
[16:07] <ert3go> This is the problem I am facing : https://launchpadlibrarian.net/95004165/trying-to-add-bookmark.ogv
[16:08] <vaequel> I need to relog, wait.
[16:08] <graingert> lolwat vaequel
[16:10] <vaequel> Ok. I'm back.
[16:10] <dr_willis> ert3go:  what release of ubuntu?
[16:10] <golosone> !list
[16:10] <borat> http://i.imgur.com/eNwde.png - here you are.
[16:11] <ert3go> dr_willis, Ubuntu 12.04.1
[16:12] <dr_willis> ert3go:  you havent ran nautilus as root have you in the past?
[16:12] <dr_willis> you could check who owns the files ~/.config/gtk-3.0/bookmarks
[16:12] <dr_willis> since thats where they seem to be saved here. but i am on 12.10
[16:12] <borat> So....  as you can see it asks about root password
[16:13] <ert3go> dr_willis, run nautilus in root as in ? I doubt I've done that
[16:13] <dr_willis> rw-rw-r-- 1 willis willis 197 Nov 18 11:09 bookmarks
[16:13] <dr_willis> check thta file. make sure its owned by your user. and not 'root root'
[16:16] <kwtm7> My 10.04 LTS won't boot: it said something about not having a boot loader or something; apparently, Grub was corrupted.  I rebooted a month ago with a Grub boot CD but haven't dared reboot since. How do I reinstall Grub so it boots (without CD)? Is it something like "apt-get reinstall grub" or something?
[16:16] <ert3go> dr_willis,  /home/username/.config/gtk-3.0/bookmarks: No such file or directory
[16:17] <dr_willis> ert3go:  that is odd..  perhaps its in the gtk3 dir
[16:17] <dr_willis> or perhaps the directory is somehow owned by root so you cant write to it
[16:18] <ert3go> dr_willis,  is it same as .gtk-bookmarks ?
[16:20] <dr_willis> ert3go:  look in the file and see whats in it.
[16:20] <dr_willis> see who owns the files.. they should all be owned by your user and not root
[16:20] <ert3go> dr_willis, yeah , it has 1 bookmark which I could do
[16:21] <ert3go>  ls -l .gtk-bookmarks
[16:21] <ert3go> -rw-rw-r-- 1 username username 337 Nov 18 21:24 .gtk-bookmarks
[16:21] <dr_willis> ert3go:  you made a user with the name of 'username' ?
[16:21] <ert3go> I didn't create any user specifically. username = name of my home directory
[16:22] <dr_willis> ;) just checking as long as they match your actual user
[16:22] <ert3go> huh ?
[16:22] <dr_willis> if your users name is  bob, they should be owned by 'bob bob' like mine said 'willis willis'
[16:23] <ert3go> err so , i don't see that file being owned by root...yeah it says 'ert3go ert3go'
[16:24] <dr_willis> im out if ideas then. settings gettong owned by root can cause issues that are a little hard to track down.
[16:24] <dr_willis> make a new user  test to see if it works for them. if SO then that would point to its some setting file on the problem user
[16:25] <dr_willis> if it fails with the newly made user also. that would point to a deeper system issue
[16:25] <ert3go> ;x
[16:25] <ert3go> i tried adding an entry into that file. I don't see new bookmark
[16:27] <sheerun> Hey! I want to install experimental version of znc from here: http://packages.debian.org/experimental/i386/znc/download but I also don't want to add deb http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian experimental main  to my sources.list because after apt-get upgrade I would install lot of experimental packages. Is there a way to restrict entry in sources.list only to that particular package? (znc). I don't want to download deb files manually.
[16:29] <dr_willis> sheerun:  you could just build it from source
[16:29] <sheerun> dr_willis: No no no. I want to manage it by apt-get
[16:29] <shantorn> sheerun, you can ad the repo install the single file dont do an upgrade and then remove it and do a sudo apt-get update to clear it out
[16:29] <dr_willis> ive done that in the past  and kept it all in my users home.
[16:29] <dr_willis> sheerun:  then you dont want to be adding any debian repositories at all if you want to keep apt happy
[16:29] <dr_willis> or just download the .deb files
[16:29] <sheerun> shantorn: Yes, but later I cannot update that package without uncommenting..
[16:30] <sheerun> Little tedious imho
[16:30] <shantorn> tedious yes, aslo doable
[16:30] <sheerun> dr_willis: I though apt-get install deb packages (it used dpkg underneath)
[16:30] <shantorn> also*
[16:31] <dr_willis> safest would be to get the .deb and install the .deb but then you dont get auto updates/upgrades.. BEST would be find a ubuntu ppa
[16:31] <TheLordOfTime> dr_willis, i'm working on PPA-ing it
[16:31] <dr_willis> assuming all the dependencies are met.
[16:31] <TheLordOfTime> since TrekWeb runs Ubuntu servers, we're due to upgrade to 1.0, so i have to do the backporting/ppaing
[16:32] <TheLordOfTime> but i have to fix Ubuntu first :/
[16:32] <sheerun> TheLordOfTime: Do you mean znc?
[16:32] <TheLordOfTime> mhm
[16:32] <sheerun> Great!
[16:32] <dr_willis> Ive conpiled znc and weechat  in the past - the fact theya re in the repos now makes getting all the needed dev packages much easier
[16:32] <TheLordOfTime> mhm
[16:32] <TheLordOfTime> but 1.0's not even out of experimental yet :P
[16:32] <sheerun> Anyway, I'm sad there isn't an universal way to do that
[16:33] <sheerun> I don't want to install deb files manually, because last time I did that I needed to backup everything ;)
[16:33] <dr_willis> sheerun:  that makes no sence.
[16:34] <TheLordOfTime> sheerun, i don't have an ETA on it though, since my Ubuntu system can't boot, and is returning Input/Output errors.
[16:34] <dr_willis> IO errors. ;(
[16:34] <sheerun> I had this problem: http://askubuntu.com/questions/140246/how-do-i-resolve-unmet-dependencies
[16:34] <ert3go> thanks dr_wi
[16:34] <ert3go> thanks dr_willis *
[16:34] <sheerun> But apt-get -f install wanted to remove all packaged from the system
[16:34] <dr_willis> sudo gdebi foo.deb works for me most of the time sheerun
[16:34] <TheLordOfTime> sheerun, that's because you only downloaded the one .deb, not the other .debs built by the ZNC source.
[16:35] <sheerun> TheLordOfTime: Is there CLI version of it?
[16:35] <dr_willis> assuming the needed deps are in the repos
[16:35] <TheLordOfTime> sheerun, ZNC is CLI...
[16:35] <TheLordOfTime> sheerun, you could download and compile the tarball (source code) manually though
[16:35] <sheerun> sry
[16:35] <sheerun> dr_willis: Is there CLI version of it?
[16:35] <dr_willis> I see 7 ZNC packages in the repos.
[16:35] <dr_willis> sheerun:  cli version of what?
[16:35] <sheerun> gdebi
[16:35] <oldman> I can not get my wireless nic to work on 12.10. Lspci sees it as BCM4312. The card is labelled BCM94312.
[16:35] <dr_willis> gdebi is a cli tool...
[16:35] <dr_willis> so yes. ;)
[16:35] <sheerun> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GDebi
[16:35] <sheerun> I saw picture on wiki
[16:36] <dr_willis> it has a gui front end also...
[16:36] <sheerun> ok, I'll look into that, thanks :)
[16:37] <blackness> i can use python2 and python3 at the sametime cant i?
[16:37] <sheerun> TheLordOfTime: I mean, how hard is making ppa?
[16:37] <sheerun> is there an automatic way to do that?
[16:37] <blackness> i know i need to set the env python3 to force python3.
[16:37] <TheLordOfTime> sheerun, making PPAs is idifficult when moving from debian, i have to change the package a tad, so its not easy
[16:37] <dr_willis> i dont think you just force all python2 apps to use python3
[16:37] <TheLordOfTime> sheerun, but i've done it before, its not hard for *me* though
[16:38] <TheLordOfTime> sheerun, i never updated this since 0.202, but keep an eye on this: https://launchpad.net/~trekcaptainusa-tw/+archive/znc
[16:38] <TheLordOfTime> sheerun, that's where the 1.0 backport'll end up
[16:38] <sheerun> hmm, ok..
[16:38] <TheLordOfTime> sheerun, what OS're you on?
[16:38] <TheLordOfTime> or rather which Ubuntu version
[16:38] <sheerun> 12.04
[16:38] <TheLordOfTime> mmkay you'll know when I know if the thing works :P
[16:39] <dr_willis> http://askubuntu.com/questions/196071/need-to-have-2-versions-of-python
[16:39] <sheerun> heh
[16:43] <yeehi> 12.04 - i try to install gnome-shell, but it says i need icons, which will not be installed as I need repositories. What should I do?
[16:44] <xangua> yeehi: you could show the actual error message in the terminal output
[16:44] <searching> In /usr/share/app-install/desktop/fglrx-driver.desktop say Name=ATI binary X.Org driver
[16:45] <searching> I have Intel
[16:45] <yeehi> thanks xangua - let me try now...
[16:47] <yeehi> xangua: gnome-shell:
[16:47] <yeehi>  Depends: gnome-icon-theme-full but it is not going to be installed
[16:47] <yeehi> gnome-shell: Depends: gnome-icon-theme-full but it is not going to be installed Make sure all repositories are enabled
[16:52] <MoL0ToV> hi boys my webcam don't work i have ubuntu 12.10 http://pastebin.ca/2252730 someone can help me?
[16:54] <hrbrt> hello! i am not really new to burning images but i am confused when downloading latest ubuntu img that its too big for a cdr. so i need to overburn it but this process fails, at least with imgburn (windows). what am i doing wrong? :/
[16:55] <chris8142> hrbrt: the latest Ubuntu doesn't fit on a cd anymore, you need a DVD
[16:55] <yeats> hrbrt: use a usb stick or dvd
[16:56] <hrbrt> ah i see, its "only" 753mb so i thaught it copuld be possible to overburn
[16:57] <ejo> strongly recommend the USB route, it's fast and easy.  It works so nicely that it's even reason enough to buy a USB stick if you don't have one handy.
[16:57] <hrbrt> ok, will checkn the faq opr whatever out on how to do it. got a usb stick here ;)
[16:58] <dr_willis> http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2012/09/its-official-the-ubuntu-livecd-is-dead
[16:59] <dr_willis> hrbrt:  this is handy also. can have more then one iso on a usb   http://www.pendrivelinux.com/multiboot-create-a-multiboot-usb-from-linux/
[17:01] <Guest3995> hallo?
[17:01] <Guest3995> ich bräuchte dringend hilfe beim bau von einem modul
[17:02] <lollko> pls speak english :)
[17:02] <DJones> !de | Guest3995
[17:02] <sheerun> Is that bot?
[17:03] <DJones> sheerun: Yes, ubottu is a bot
[17:03] <sheerun> Where is the list of commands I can use?
[17:03] <DJones> !bot | sheerun
[17:03] <sheerun> thanks :)
[17:05] <sheerun> Btw. I have made a bot, but free node has banned my server because of it (too much output). Do you know how much time I must wait for an un-ban? I've sent an email to the support..
[17:05] <jrib> sheerun: ask #freenode
[17:05] <DJones> sheerun: Best thing to do would be to ask in #freenode
[17:05] <sheerun> kk, thank you
[17:06] <kamahak> hello
[17:07] <pinchweldy> quit
[17:09] <lapion> non-pae kernels where art thou...
[17:12] <Guest54470> hello, wonder if anyone can help: I have an intel i5 with integrated intel hd graphics card. some native linux games only display about 3rd of the screen whilst others are fine, anyone have any idea?
[17:14] <MoL0ToV> someone can help me with webcam? http://www.pastebin.ca/2252738
[17:23] <ispain> hola
[17:24] <ispain> hola a todos
[17:24] <ispain> soy nuevo de aki
[17:24] <ispain> algun espA
[17:25] <dr_willis> !es
[17:29] <lapion> I have a system with a 1GHz transmeta, however there are no non-pae kernels in the generic repository available anymore.
[17:34] <OerHeks> lapion,  there is a non-pea build iso > http://people.canonical.com/~diwic/12.04-nonpae/
[17:40] <MoL0ToV> hi boys my webcam don't work i have ubuntu 12.10 http://pastebin.ca/2252730 someone can help me?
[17:46] <BlackNarcissus> Hey everyone. I'm installing 12.04 and it seems the installer is stuck on ext3 file system creation...
[17:47] <Evil_Eric> start over
[17:47] <rgngl> Hi folks, does anybody have a clue about my NFS problem, I described here: http://superuser.com/questions/507274/nfs-share-access-permission-denied/507291#507291
[17:48] <laurant> Hey everyone. i've got a problem with my Ubuntu 12.10. I can't login to my Administrator account. when i login it instantly logout. anyone a solution?
[17:49] <escott> laurant, what do you mean by "administrator account"
[17:49] <laurant> superuser account
[17:49] <escott> laurant, do you mean "root"
[17:49] <laurant> nopr
[17:49] <laurant> *nope
[17:50] <laurant> the only account i can go on is the Guest account
[17:50] <laurant> but i can't burn a Install disk from it
[17:50] <escott> laurant, did you ever "sudo some-gui-application"
[17:51] <laurant> i don't think so.
[17:51] <laurant> but i cant use 'sudo' from a guest account
[17:51] <escott> laurant, well check that root doesn't own ~/.Xauthority for the affected account
[17:51] <escott> laurant, ctrl-alt-f1 to login from console
[17:52] <laurant> Can i use that from 'guest' ?
[17:52] <escott> laurant, you won't be able to diagnose or fix anything from guest
[17:53] <ofcan> hi guys! how to give specific user rights to be able to create directories in /var/www ?
[17:53] <escott> ofcan, usermod -a -G www username
[17:53] <TheLordOfTime> isnt it www-data?
[17:53] <TheLordOfTime> depending on what user is the owner of /var/www
[17:53] <ofcan> TheLordOfTime: root is
[17:54] <escott> ofcan, generally you want files in /var/www owned by some proxy for the webserver... www or www-data or the like
[17:54] <laurant> i did use "sudo chown <user> /var/www"
[17:54] <laurant> for that
[17:54] <escott> ofcan, at least with respect to the group. the file ownercould be root
[17:55] <laurant> it makes you the owner of it
[17:55] <laurant> I do not recommend to use it on anything else!!!
[17:55] <escott> laurant, he doesn't need/want anyone to be owner of it. its the group that is important
[17:55] <delac> anyone know if it is possible to open dconf-editor as gdm?
[17:56] <escott> delac, gksudo -u gdm dconf-editor
[17:56] <ofcan> escott: so I just write > usermod -a -G /var/www deployer
[17:56] <ofcan> escott: ?
[17:56] <trism> delac: use gsettings overrides if you want to change settings for gdm
[17:56] <escott> !permissions | ofcan i suggest you read this to understand how permissions work
[17:57] <Domain> Greetings all.
[17:57] <escott> ofcan, you want to add deployer to the group that owns /var/www
[17:57] <escott> ofcan, but that group should NOT be root. it should be www or www-data
[17:57] <escott> laurant, what is ls -l /home/laurant/.Xauthority?
[17:58] <laurant> ?
[17:58] <Domain> I'm using Ubuntu 12.04.  How can I lock my display settings?  If often reverts to a lesser resolution.
[17:58] <delac> escott: does not work. "cannot open display: :0"
[17:58] <n0ah[]> My Ubuntu (12.04) no longer has a GUI. This happened after installing updates.
[17:58] <delac> trism: you dont think using dconf is good idea?
[17:58] <n0ah[]> I have Unity.
[17:59] <ofcan> escott: oh, ok! so with thhat command you said, I am adding my user to the www group?
[17:59] <Domain> *takes a number and waits in line*  :)
[17:59] <trism> delac: not when the settings can be overwritten when gdm is updated
[17:59] <ActionParsnip> n0ah[]: was this caused by upgrades to the same release, or did you upgrade from Lucid or Oneiric?
[17:59] <escott> laurant, im getting back to your question. you need to ctrl-alt-f1 then login as your normal user, and then find the XAuthority file (if you use lightdm it is ~/.Xauthority or the like, gdm puts it in /run/username/auth-*/database
[17:59] <n0ah[]> Same release.
[17:59] <ActionParsnip> n0ah[]: do you use proprietary video drivers?
[17:59] <laurant> the problem is i can login
[17:59] <ofcan> escott: and since I am deploying on VPS and everything is preety much on defaults, www should be configured properly?
[17:59] <laurant> *can't
[17:59] <n0ah[]> I'm not sure what you mean.
[18:00] <ActionParsnip> n0ah[]: what video chip do you use?
[18:00] <escott> ofcan, you can xauth +localhost then run the gksudo command and xauth -localhost... maybe... not sure if that last xauth will break X.
[18:00] <n0ah[]> Nvidia Gforce
[18:00] <Pr0B0t> can some1 help me to run Ubuntu ?
[18:00] <trism> delac: http://www.burtonini.com/blog/computers/gsettings-override-2011-07-04-15-45 and check out the schema at /usr/share/glib-2.0/schemas/org.gnome.login-screen.gschema.xml
[18:00] <ActionParsnip> n0ah[]: and did you install the extra drivers?
[18:00] <ActionParsnip> Pr0B0t: with details, preferably on one line. Maybe
[18:00] <escott> laurant, you cannot login from console?
[18:00] <delac> trism: they do? shouldn't dconf settings stick even on updates?
[18:00] <n0ah[]> I'm not sure, the only thing I saw in the update were updates for Transmission, and come C++ libraries.
[18:00] <n0ah[]> some*
[18:01] <trism> delac: the dconf database is in the gdm package
[18:01] <ActionParsnip> n0ah[]: do you get the login screen when you boot?
[18:01] <n0ah[]> I know I have a beta driver installed for my video card though, but didn't have problems before.
[18:01] <n0ah[]> Yes.
[18:01] <n0ah[]> I'm on Irssi right now as we speak.
[18:01] <trism> delac: dpkg -L gdm | grep /var/lib/gdm/
[18:01] <trism> delac: sorry I take that back
 when i rub it it start loading desktop and then pic freez and run some GPU loading and failed load channel 2  failed to load channel 3....
[18:01] <Pr0B0t> run*
[18:02] <trism> delac: but anyway, you can lose the settings, better to use overrides
[18:02] <Pr0B0t> and restart i forgot that
[18:02] <n0ah[]> Trying to run Unity from the line causes an error saying it can't display on :0.
[18:02] <ActionParsnip> n0ah[]: when the screen loads. Press CTRL+ALT+F1 and run:   sudo  apt-get --purge remove `dpkg -l | grep nvidia | grep -v nvidia-common | awk {'print $2'}`
[18:02] <delac> trism: well, gues I do that then. thanks!
[18:02] <n0ah[]> Okay, I'll be right back. Let me run those.
[18:03] <blackness> what is the best way to get what driver your wifi pci card is using?
[18:03] <escott> ofcan, yes and presumably, but i dont know what the actual owner of /var/www is. you need to find that out with ls -l
[18:03] <ActionParsnip> blackness: there is no single best way
[18:03] <blackness> ok, how would i find it?
[18:03] <ActionParsnip> blackness: sudo lshw -C network    is one way
[18:04] <blackness> ok
[18:04] <bekks> blackness: lspci -k
[18:04] <blackness> i dont know why i didnt think of lshw -C network
[18:04] <blackness> atk5k :P
[18:05] <blackness> ath5k *
[18:05] <ofcan> escott: I got this upon running that command you suggested > usermod: cannot lock /etc/passwd; try again later. < what does this mean?
[18:05] <ofcan> escott: root is the owner, btw
[18:05] <LyzardKing> Any news on the support for wayland?
[18:06] <escott> ofcan, the group is the important bit. i keep saying owner when i really mean group
[18:06] <BlackNarcissus> Hey everyone. When installing 12.04, the installer is either stuck on or take a very long time to create an ext3 filesystem for /home. Messages in "Details" give "Asking for cache date: failed", "Assuming drive cache: write through"
[18:06] <ofcan> escott: root is the name of the group :)
[18:07] <blackness> how would i set my wifi password if it contains special chars? example: passwORD!@#$%^&*() ?
[18:07] <escott> ofcan, and you should not put deployer in group root. so you chould change that with chgrp
[18:07] <blackness> wpa_passphrase="PASSWORD!@#$%^&*()" or do i have to escape them?
[18:08] <miniCruzer> I get this message every time I boot the computer, maybe 3 or 4 times: http://screencloud.net/v/vn9o
[18:08] <n0ah[]> Hi, I ran those commands. It prompted me to uninstall the current video drivers I had, I assume, and I did.
[18:08] <escott> blackness, use ' not " to avoid having to escape all that junk
[18:08] <ofcan> escott: deployer is in sudo group. that is ok?
[18:09] <n0ah[]> Should I try restarting and see if the GUI now works?
[18:09] <escott> ofcan, being in sudo group is different from being in root group
[18:09] <blackness> so: wpa_passphrase='password!@#$%^&*()' ?
[18:10] <n0ah[]> ActionParsnip: You therE?
[18:10] <n0ah[]> there*
[18:10] <escott> blackness, give it a try. if that is interpreted by BASH it will come through cleanly
[18:10] <ofcan> escott: ok, so now how to make that deployer be able to mkdir in /var/www ? I ran the command you suggested, but I got that 'try again later error'...
[18:11] <escott> ofcan, have you read the !permissions page. you are setting up a server so it is very important that you understand the permission model
[18:12] <BlackNarcissus> Hey everyone. When installing 12.04, the installer is either stuck on or take a very long time to create an ext3 filesystem for /home. Messages in "Details" give "Asking for cache date: failed", "Assuming drive cache: write through". Disk utility says the HDD is ok. I'm puzzled.
[18:12] <Pr0B0t> how to fix this when i run ubuntu it start loading then background stop loading and i can move just mouse and then this   http://i45.tinypic.com/ld0na.jpg   and then comp restart
[18:12] <sas641> anyone from china?
[18:12] <escott> !cn | sas641
[18:13] <n0ah[]> Can anyone help me? My GUI for my Ubuntu 12.04 has gone after installing updates. I was just advised to remove my video card drivers, so I did, and was wondering what I should do next.
[18:14] <BlackNarcissus> n0ah[]: What's your graphic card ? Does the system boot, at least on a command line ?
[18:14] <n0ah[]> Yes, it boots on a command line. Logging in normally will allow me to run commands. It uses a Nvidia graphics card.
[18:15] <escott> ofcan, if you understand the permission model then looking at ls -l /etc/passwd should make clear why your usermod command is not working
[18:15] <n0ah[]> I had beta testing drivers installed before, without problem. I assume I have no drivers as of now.
[18:15] <Domain> Hello
[18:16] <n0ah[]> BlackNarcissus: Did you get my response?
[18:16] <sas641> http://www.dropbox.com/sh/ysntqjuqjzh0jap/goDDKPk6gG#/
[18:16] <BlackNarcissus> n0ah[]: I don't know what your problem was but you can try to reinstall your drivers if you're comfortable with the command line. Drivers for Nvidia are nvidia-current.
[18:17] <sas641> what is the name of this dress?
[18:17] <n0ah[]> Thanks, let me try that and see if Unity works then.
[18:17] <n0ah[]> I'll be right back.
[18:17] <Domain> Hi
[18:17] <n0ah[]> That'll be "sudo apt-get install nvidia-current" correct?
[18:17] <BlackNarcissus> n0ah[]: Yes, but did you enable a PPA to have the beta drivers ?
[18:17] <auronandace> !ot | sas641
[18:18] <n0ah[]> No, they were just in the additional driver update popup that came up.
[18:18] <ofcan> escott: ok, reading what you suggested as we speak. thank you. sorry for being lazy btw
[18:18] <Jezmajian> Hello
[18:18] <BlackNarcissus> n0ah[]: Oh, ok. Then you can try running that command and restarting.
[18:18] <n0ah[]> Alright, thanks. Be right back.
[18:18] <ActionParsnip> n0ah[]: did you remove the nvidia driver using CLI?
[18:19] <escott> ofcan, its ok, but at some point you have to read the stuff, and setting up a server is one of those points
[18:19] <BlackNarcissus> ActionParsnip: He said he did, but didn't know what to do next.
[18:20] <ActionParsnip> BlackNarcissus: thanks
[18:20] <Domain> Hi
[18:21] <BlackNarcissus> ActionParsnip: You're welcome. I didn't know what his problem was before, but I told him to try to install current drivers.
[18:22] <ActionParsnip> BlackNarcissus: no screen after login, remove the proprietary driver then reinstall can help
[18:23] <BlackNarcissus> ActionParsnip: Well, I wasn't wrong then. Good. :)
[18:23] <ActionParsnip> BlackNarcissus: always a good thing :)
[18:23] <BlackNarcissus> When installing 12.04, the installer is either stuck on or take a very long time to create an ext3 filesystem for /home. Messages give "Asking for cache date: failed", "Assuming drive cache: write through". Disk utility says the HDD is ok. I'm puzzled.
[18:25] <ActionParsnip> BlackNarcissus: did you MD5 test the ISO you downloaded?
[18:25] <ActionParsnip> BlackNarcissus: if you are using a CD, did you burn it as slowly as possible and not with the default Windows CD burner
[18:26] <EXORCIST> I HAVE TROUBLE WITH MY CAPS LOCK
[18:26] <BlackNarcissus> ActionParsnip: Yes, and it worked several times on that PC and others. I also tried USB live and LiveCD, but both gives the same results.
[18:26] <EXORCIST> I THINK MY CAPS STOPPED WORKING BECAOUSE OF UBUNTU.
[18:26] <ActionParsnip> BlackNarcissus: do you get web access in liveCD?
[18:26] <bekks> EXORCIST: Press caps lock again.
[18:26] <thelinux> BlackNarcissus: What seems to be the problem?
[18:26] <BlackNarcissus> ActionParsnip: Yes
[18:26] <ActionParsnip> EXORCIST: only in Ubuntu. An OS cannot change your hardware
[18:27] <ActionParsnip> BlackNarcissus: did you upgrade ubiquity and gparted before kicking off the installation?
[18:27] <EXORCIST> THEN WHY MY CAPS LOCK AND MOUSE 2 STOPPED WORKING?
[18:27] <BlackNarcissus> thelinux: Installer is stuck on ext3 filesystem creation.
[18:27] <BlackNarcissus> ActionParsnip: I will try that.
[18:28] <Steve^> If your caps lock got stuck, I imagine it would be quite hard to find help
[18:29] <thelinux> EX0RCIST: Are you trolling?
[18:30] <ActionParsnip> thelinux: gone
[18:30] <n0ah[]> Great news: the GUI is now working on my PC, but one problem. Entering in my password, (which I'm certain is correct), causes a black screen to flash with some text, which looks like the screen for gdm and then goes back to the login screen./
[18:30] <ActionParsnip> BlackNarcissus: sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get install gparted ubiquity
[18:30] <thelinux> ActionParsnip: Good.
[18:30] <BlackNarcissus> ActionParsnip: Yes, I'm booting from USB right now :) Will try that. Thanks.
[18:31] <ActionParsnip> n0ah[]: drop to cli and log in and run:  sudo chown -R $USER:$USER $HOME
[18:31] <n0ah[]> cli?
[18:32] <lollko> command line interface
[18:32] <n0ah[]> ah okay.
[18:32] <blablabla> !list
[18:32] <needhelp1> hey, I have some home videos on dvd that have no encrption, what would be the best and easiest way to copy these, dvd to dvd, iso to iso so that I can reburn them?
[18:33] <ActionParsnip> needhelp1: there is no single best way
[18:33] <needhelp1> any ideas?
[18:33] <ActionParsnip> needhelp1: I would use devede and you can add each video as a chapter on a DVD ISO, you can then burn it to a DVD media
[18:33] <dougl> so there are no mouse trails available in ubuntu?
[18:33] <dougl> no option I could install?
[18:34] <ActionParsnip> needhelp1: the more videos you add, the more you will need to reduce quality to make it fit, so add 3 or 4 to each (unless they are already small)
[18:34] <ActionParsnip> needhelp1: its not the 'best way' as a 'best way' doesn't exist, on any OS. This is just one possible way you can do it
[18:36] <n0ah[]> I got input/output errors when trying to do that command.
[18:36] <n0ah[]> should that of happened?
[18:37] <escott> n0ah[], sounds like the disk is going bad
[18:37] <ActionParsnip> n0ah[]: sounds like you need to fsck the partitin
[18:37] <ActionParsnip> *partition
[18:38] <n0ah[]> Can you give me some help on how I would do that?
[18:38] <n0ah[]> Would reinstalling Ubuntu solve it?
[18:38] <bekks> n0ah[]: No.
[18:38] <n0ah[]> Ah, okay.
[18:39] <needhelp1> is there a way i can just copy the iso exactly as it already is ActionParsnip ?
[18:39] <ActionParsnip> needhelp1: if you have an ISO then just burn it, slowly
[18:40] <needhelp1> i want to copy the dvd to ISO, no iso yet
[18:40] <ActionParsnip> n0ah[]: just boot to the liveCD and check the file system, no need to reinstall.
[18:40] <n0ah[]> Is there a command I should run while booted from the Live CD?
[18:40] <devral> hi. trying to assign static ip; can ping everything by IP, but dns resolution fails
[18:40] <ActionParsnip> needhelp1: not sure there.
[18:41] <ActionParsnip> devral: how did you set the static IP?
[18:41] <devral> through /etc/network/interfaces. I have dns-nameservers set to the router's IP address, but don't know what to assign to dns-search as I am not on a domain
[18:41] <ActionParsnip> n0ah[]: fsck    read the man page
[18:41] <escott> devral, sounds like you didnt set a nameserver
[18:41] <n0ah[]> Gotcha, thanks.
[18:42] <ActionParsnip> devral: run:    echo "nameserver <IP_ADDRESS>" | sudo tee /etc/resolvconf/resolv.conf.d/base > /dev/null
[18:43] <ActionParsnip> devral: also run:     echo "nameserver <IP_ADDRESS>" | sudo tee /etc/resolv.conf > /dev/null
[18:43] <ActionParsnip> devral: then you should be able to run:     sudo apt-get update
[18:45] <John76> Hello I get an error when I try to mirror displays
[18:46] <devral> ActionParsnip: that works for resolving external IPs; however, I can't ping any internal PCs by name still
[18:47] <escott> devral, is your router configured to offer DNS
[18:47] <John76> Why can't I mirror displays at 1080?
[18:48] <John76> highest resolution is  1280x1240 4:3
[18:48] <ActionParsnip> devral: you could add your router as a nameserver in /etc/resolvconf/resolv.conf.d/base
[18:48] <ActionParsnip> John76: what release? what video chip?
[18:48] <ActionParsnip> John76: details
[18:48] <escott> John76, perhaps one of the displays doesn't run at 1080
[18:49] <ActionParsnip> John76: how can you expect an intelligent reply from zero details......?
[18:49] <flyinprogramer> alright, woke up this morning, and my ext4 filesystem was in read-only mode, i rebooted, started a clean, and it claims 8 inodes are containing multiply-claimed blocks, and this seems to be associated with only two files on the disk, it then goes on to say it can't find the dup_blk…. i know filesystems are complex, and i probably have failing disks… that said though, is there away to just delete those two files and clean
[18:49] <flyinprogramer> filesystem ?
[18:50] <ActionParsnip> devral: run:    echo "nameserver <IP_ADDRESS>" | sudo tee -a /etc/resolvconf/resolv.conf.d/base > /dev/null
[18:50] <John76> http://i.imgur.com/pqEyM.png ActionParsnip
[18:50] <ActionParsnip> devral: assuming <IP_ADDRESS> is your router
[18:50] <John76> 32MB or 64MB ATI Radeon X300
[18:50] <bekks> flyinprogramer: Did you run fsck -f ?
[18:50] <escott> flyinprogramer, fsck -p will suggest fixes
[18:50] <John76> I've done this fine on Lubuntu but I can't on Ubuntu for some reason
[18:51] <flyinprogramer> bekks: escott i just did fsck /drive
[18:51] <Guest74034> is there a way to activate drivers in terminal?
[18:51] <ActionParsnip> John76: run:    sudo lshw -C display; lsb_release -a         please pastebin the output at http://pastebin.ubuntu.com
[18:51] <flyinprogramer> bekks: escott and it seems to be auto-cleaning ?
[18:51] <ActionParsnip> Guest74034: for what video chip?
[18:51] <devral> ActionParsnip: that got it. thanks :D
[18:51] <bekks> flyinprogramer: fsck is not fsck -f and not fsck -p
[18:51] <Guest74034> the wireless driver
[18:51] <flyinprogramer> bekks: -- alright i can stop it and try those
[18:51] <ActionParsnip> devral: no worries :). You aren't getting nameservers via DHCP, so you need to set those too
[18:51] <bekks> flyinprogramer: Dont interrupt it :)
[18:52] <ActionParsnip> Guest74034: is it a broadcom?
[18:52] <Guest74034> yes
[18:52] <Guest74034> it is
[18:52] <ActionParsnip> !broadcom | Guest74034
[18:52] <Guest74034> thanks
[18:52] <devral> hm, I've rebooted the server and it seems to wait an awfully long time at "Waiting for network configuration..." -- is there a service I need to disable?
[18:53] <Ray2> Noisy hard drive..I have 2 hd one 80gb the other 250gb...80gb smart test shows bad sectors..250gb shows healthy disc...regardless of which o/s on which hd I am using noisy continues...any other test to determine which drive is failing ??
[18:53] <John76> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/1368356/ ActionParsnip
[18:53] <escott> !info smartctl | Ray2
[18:53] <escott> !info smartmon-tools | Ray2
[18:53] <bekks> Ray2: The 80gb is failing. You just wrote it yourself.
[18:53] <escott> !info smartmontools | Ray2
[18:54] <escott> stupid bot
[18:54] <ActionParsnip> John76: so, why did you not mention you are running an ATI Radeon X300 and using Precise in your initial question?
[18:54] <MoL0ToV> hi boys my webcam don't work i have ubuntu 12.10 http://pastebin.ca/2252730 someone can help me?
[18:54] <Ray2> escott lucid 10.04 lts
 32MB or 64MB ATI Radeon X300
[18:54] <cwbarnes> Hi all, please help!  I'm running Ubuntu 12.10 xfce, changed some toolbar settings now I boot into a blank desktop in which the compiz cube is functioning but there is no taskbar, I can't right click, alt+f1 doesn't bring me to a terminal, i can only rotate the cube!! please help a noob fix his install
[18:54] <escott> Ray2, same package name
[18:55] <ActionParsnip> John76: initial question......
[18:55] <pikaciu> alt+f2
[18:55] <John76> because i thought it would be a simple fix
[18:55] <ActionParsnip> John76: in future, please give FULL details. It makes things so much faster as we don't have to ask for basic details
[18:55] <John76> will do
[18:56] <ActionParsnip> John76: does the system have a make and model?
[18:56] <cwbarnes> can someone please help me restore a functional desktop? would be greatly appreciated
[18:56] <John76> IBM Thinkpad R52
[18:56] <John76> It doesn't have an LCD screen if that's worth noting
[18:56] <ActionParsnip> cwbarnes: try installing xfce4
[18:56] <ofcan> escott: ok, read it and changed the group wich owns /var/www to www-data group. now need to add the user deployer to that group, right? how to do that? the command you suggested (with usermod) doesn't work...
[18:57] <cwbarnes> @Actionparsnip m8 I am in a bind, I dont have any functionality on the desktop i can only spin the cube, termincal wont work, i can do alt+F1 etc and only see a blinking cursor, i cant right click on the desktop
[18:58] <pikaciu> cwbarnes: the command alt+f2 doesn't work ?
[18:58] <escott> ofcan, usermod needs to modify files in /etc (in particular passwd and groups) both owned by root. so you need sudo usermod -a -G www-data deployer
[18:58] <escott> ofcan, if just anyone could add themselves to a group that would kinda defeat it as a security feature
[18:58] <cwbarnes> @pikaciu it doesn't do anything, i can only spin the desktop cube, and its at a lower resolution