[00:00] <Kimble> I'm pretty sure auto-detection of crossover etc is part of an ethernet spec - the Gigabit spec perhaps?  Perhaps earlier.
[00:00] <za3k> cordyceps: Not sure exactly, probably starting 5-10 years ago?
[00:00] <ejv> im not sure what ubuntu uses to mount directories over ssh, but im guessing something similar to sshfs-fuse
[00:00] <ejv> that or samba are good for accessing content across the cable
[00:00]  * cordyceps I'm so old :(
[00:00] <Loshki> roadfish: if no windows machines are going to be involved, I'd use nfs, else samba...
[00:00] <ironhalik> dunno whats the topic, but 1Gbit ethernet cards do the crossing internally, no need for a crossover cable
[00:00] <roadfish> ejv:ok, sshfs-fuse sounds kinds of good (maybe)
[00:00] <Kimble> cordyceps: would you rather be dead?
[00:00] <cordyceps> sometimes
[00:01] <Kimble> ouch. Today on Trisha...
[00:01] <ejv> i know the wiring in a crossover cable is physically different from it's ethernet brethren.
[00:01] <ejv> fft.
[00:01] <vic> Hello, dropped in to ask if there is a possibility of finding a driver for an AMD RADEON HD 6900 graphics card. Using Ubuntu 10.04 LTS. Thanks, everyone!
[00:01] <roadfish> hence, the crossover ... some wires are crossed over.
[00:01] <Josh|KilljoyX23> nice card :)
[00:01] <cordyceps> lubuntu-11.10 here. Synaptic doesn't list startup-disk-creator. How do I get it?
[00:02] <Loshki> roadfish: I'd say ssh has far too much overhead on what is essentially a secure link...
[00:02] <ejv> that card is old!
[00:02] <ejv> 7970, cmon fellas get with it
[00:02] <Kimble> ejv: wow, your such a sensitive guy. cordyceps' is probably slitting his wrists right now...
[00:02] <vic> Hope so, Josh. Itºs connected to a widescreen monitor but doesnºt seem to realise this.
[00:02] <za3k> cordyceps: "apt-cache search" suggests you might be thinking of "usb-creator-*".  Are those the same thing?
[00:03] <roadfish> Loshki: ok, so I might get choppy performance (or heavy CPU usage?) if I just want to watch videos. I already did "ssh -X" and, yuck, the video ran slow and got out-of-sync with audio.
[00:03] <ejv> Kimble: do you mean vic ? :)
[00:03] <Phong_> ejv, i do 'sftp <IP_ADDRESS>'  it said connection refused
[00:03] <roadfish> Loshki: I mean that NFS is in and sshfs-fuse is out ... for video watching at least.
[00:03] <cordyceps> za3k: E: Unable to locate package usb-creator
[00:03] <Phong_> something to do with 22??
[00:03] <Kimble> ejv: lol, no, i was referring to cordyceps feeling of "being old".
[00:04] <ejv> Phong_: what's the IP address of the machine you're trying to connect to.
[00:04] <ejv> Kimble: ahh missed that
[00:04] <Phong_> local ip
[00:04] <Loshki> roadfish: agreed. Have you configured an nfs server before?
[00:04] <Jordan_U> cordyceps: usb-creator-gtk
[00:04] <Josh|KilljoyX23> wheres a good resource on beginner ubuntu terminal, or linux line in general?
[00:04] <Phong_> ejv i try to connect locally
[00:04] <ejv> why are you trying to sftp to yourself?
[00:04] <Jordan_U> !manual | Josh|KilljoyX23
[00:04] <Loshki> !manual | Josh|KilljoyX23
[00:05] <_NiC> Phong_, sounds like your sshd isn't listening on localhost.
[00:05] <Josh|KilljoyX23> thank you
[00:05] <Phong_> ejv to test if it work
[00:05] <_NiC> Phong_, check /etc/ssh/sshd_config
[00:05] <ejv> Josh|KilljoyX23: http://rute.2038bug.com/index.html.gz real man's manual.
[00:05] <Josh|KilljoyX23> lol thanks EJV
[00:05] <_NiC> Phong_, or connect to the "real" IP.
[00:05] <Phong_> ok
[00:05] <ejv> i used that tutorial like 10 years ago
[00:05] <Phong_> brb
[00:05] <ejv> before ubuntu existed
[00:05] <vic> BUE?
[00:06] <cordyceps> Jordan_U: now we're getting somewhere ;)
[00:06] <Kimble> vic: just like BCE - Before Cars and Electricity.
[00:06] <roadfish> Loshki: nope ... I guess NFS is my next waterhose to drink from ... after learning ssh and eth0 in interfaces file and adjusting firewall settings
[00:06] <ejv> up hill in the snow both ways
[00:06] <ejv> etc etc
[00:06] <vic> Happy times! :)
[00:06] <agentgasmask> Anyone have any hints on getting full graphics with intel graphics on a core i3 laptop? Ubuntu 10.04 x64 LTS
[00:06] <ironhalik> hmm, whats the default nvidia driver in ubuntu?
[00:07] <ironhalik> right after installation?
[00:07] <Xourii> any FPS games for ubuntu? don't have to look fancy
[00:07] <ejv> srsly tho, i had to go to the library to their computer programming section to read up on the latest red hat builds
[00:07] <_NiC> Xourii, unreal tournament? :-)
[00:07] <agentgasmask> ironhalik: Is that to me?
[00:07] <Loshki> roadfish: sounds like you're a quick study. Take a look at: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpNFSHowTo
[00:07] <Kimble> Xourii: Urban Terror 's a good multi-player FPS.
[00:07] <OerHeks> agentgasmask, optimus ?
[00:07] <ironhalik> dunno agentgasmask :)
[00:07] <agentgasmask> Xourii: urban terror
[00:07] <Xourii> _NiC: is that free?
[00:07] <roadfish> Loshki: more like a few night up to 3am or 5am.
[00:07] <ejv> if you want full graphics, you want windows with windows drivers :)
[00:07] <_NiC> Xourii, not really sure.
[00:08] <Xourii> Kimble: I had trouble installing it, because I'm a n00b. xD
[00:08] <vic> ejv: Wind-ezre has too many overheads.
[00:08] <Kimble> Xourii: Urban Terror? Really? Let me take a look...
[00:08] <agentgasmask> ejv: Realy? That's a nice tip...
[00:08] <vic> )I meant Wind-eze"
[00:08] <ejv> yea but at least their driver implementation isn't gimped like in Linux land.
[00:08] <Loshki> roadfish: maybe I can speed you up a bit, if you want to spend the time...
[00:08] <ejv> it's just the way it is right now... don't kill the messenger
[00:08] <Xourii> Kimble: I'm not even sure how to install things like that. It's not them, it's me I think
[00:09] <urlin2u> vic, just for a heads up distorting the windows name is a respect loss even here. :D
[00:09] <za3k> I'm experiencing odd mirrored tty input problems on boot.  They're reproducible but I can't find anyone with the exact problem online.  I don't understand the boot process and have done little customization other than installing packages.  Tips on what to look at next?
[00:09] <Phong_> ejv ssh: connect to host <IP_ADDRESS> port 22: Connection refused
[00:09] <Kimble> Xourii: according to here - http://www.urbanterror.info/downloads/ - it's very simple.  Have another go. It's a great laugh once you get past being a `noob'.
[00:09] <_NiC> Phong_, is sshd actually running?
[00:09] <agentgasmask> ejv: I'm not trying to kill the messanger, just a little deflated by his news, what with the brand new laptop and all...
[00:10] <vic> urlin2u: Sense of humour won't allow that!
[00:10] <ejv> Phong_: looks like ssh isn't listening properly, restart the daemon, work on it :)
[00:10] <Xourii> Kimble: okay, thanks
[00:10] <Phong_> how
[00:10] <urlin2u> vic, lol I know :)
[00:10] <Phong_> i am noob
[00:10] <Kimble> So, anyone here using ext2 fs compression? just though I'd ask one last time...
[00:10] <ejv> let's be honest, if I'm writing code using CUDA's SDK, I'll probably do it in windows, not in linux.
[00:10] <Phong_> how to restart daemon
[00:11] <vic> Kimble: Not dared to use compression since DOS5 days!
[00:11] <roadfish> Loshki: I guess that I can setup NFS on my "inner" computer that isn't hooked up to the web. That should be a good security measure.
[00:11] <michal__> service restart <name-of-the-deamon>
[00:11] <ejv> because at least I can trust that nvidia has taken care of it's windows developers
[00:11] <Kimble> vic: ugggg. Even _recalling_ DOS makes me feel ill....
[00:12] <vic> Kimble: Tsk! Such graphic disrespect!
[00:12] <ejv> arguably, 'dos' is the reason i'm here. i thought punching commands was super cool.
[00:12]  * ejv shrugs
[00:13] <Phong_> ejv reboot machine???
[00:13] <roadfish> DOS has been a real blight. First attacks PCs in 1980s and then denies internet service.
[00:13] <vic> ejv: Takes a rather good memory to recall alll the various syntaxes!
[00:13] <Loshki> roadfish: I thought you said you have 2 pcs back to back? I agree it would be bad to serve nfs from an exposed machine...
[00:13] <_NiC> did you ever use 4dos? :)
[00:13] <ejv> Phong_: sudo service sshd restart
[00:13] <ejv> Phong_: sudo service ssh restart
[00:13] <vic> _NiC: Wozzat_
[00:13] <vic> ?
[00:13] <Kimble> oh well. if no-one here has experience of ext2 fs compression, Ill bid farewell. :)
[00:14] <vic> Sorry:(
[00:14] <_NiC> vic, dos, just better. different shell, I guess.
[00:14] <ejv> all the time you wasted waiting
[00:14] <Phong_> both of what u sia?
[00:14] <_NiC> had lots of fun with it. :)
[00:14] <ejv> you could have shown us reults at this point
[00:14] <ejv> s/reults/results/g
[00:14] <roadfish> Loshki: yes the PCs are back-to-back. I was just asking about putting NFS on the inner machine as a kind of sanity test ... that I'm thinking straight.
[00:14] <vic> I'm waiting, too! ?
[00:14] <ejv> i still think you should look to the future and accept ext4 as your lord and savior, that or zfs.
[00:14] <Phong_> ejv with ssh or sshd???
[00:15] <Phong_> which 1
[00:15] <vic> I canºt afford to get that much older!
[00:15] <ejv> Kimble left, didnt he/she? i have parts ignored...
[00:15] <_NiC> Phong_, how about you just try and find out?
[00:15] <Phong_> ok
[00:15] <Phong_> brb
[00:15] <ejv> Phong_: the second one, but if you type the first one it will simply say "not found"
[00:16] <_NiC> cat sneezing on my monitors :-\
[00:16] <ejv> cute and gross
[00:16] <roadfish> roadfish: ok thanks, that Community Ubuntu NFS webpage looks good. I'm familiar with these kinds of ideas. But I'll probably start on it tommorow.
[00:17] <ejv> mounting dirs over ssh takes no effort at all if you're *very* lazy roadfish
[00:17] <ejv> gnome integrates it rather well
[00:17] <vic> I know I came here for something - it's just like climbing the stairs!
[00:17]  * ejv prefers the path of least resistance
[00:17] <Loshki> roadfish: best of luck...
[00:17] <Phong_> did both, still cant connect same error
[00:18] <_NiC> Phong_, what happened when you did the start command?
[00:18] <_NiC> err, restart.
[00:18] <Phong_> ok show u brb
[00:18] <ejv> OT: US customers can buy a corsair PSU CX430 v2 for $17 after MIR, just got the announcement in my email... quite a steal :D
[00:18] <aBound> _NiC, hey. :P
[00:19] <_NiC> aBound :)
[00:19] <ejv> anyone here use corsair, thinking about getting a SSD for my new ubuntu box, once new LTS comes out
[00:19] <Phong_> phong_@p:~$ sudo service ssh restart
[00:19] <ironhalik> how do I make Ubuntu not use nvidia drivers after installation? The default state for me seems to have the 173 binary driver enabled, while the installation uses nouveau
[00:19] <aBound> ejv, I have an Intel SSD 80GB.
[00:20] <ejv> you like it?
[00:20] <Phong_> nic??
[00:20] <aBound> ejv, Yes a long with my quad-core Ubuntu flies.
[00:20] <_NiC> Phong_, yes?
[00:20] <ejv> cool :)
[00:20] <aBound> ejv, I think firefox opens in about 2 to 3 seconds.
[00:20] <ironhalik> the bootsplash bare appears on my corsair m4 ssd :P
[00:20] <aBound> :P
[00:20] <Phong_> i just told u
[00:20] <aBound> ejv, LibreOffice opens in about 5 to 6 seconds.
[00:20] <_NiC> Phong_, I asked what happened.
[00:20] <_NiC> Phong_, i.e. the result of that command.
[00:21] <ejv> nice
[00:21] <ejv> taking a break, need to recharge the batteries
[00:21] <aBound> :-)
[00:21] <ejv> cheerz
[00:21] <_NiC> I have my OS on an SSD too, but can't remember what it is
[00:21] <aBound> Cheers.
[00:21] <Phong_> phong_@p:~$ sftp <IP_ADDRESS>
[00:22] <aBound> _NiC, Should be able to check from the terminal command: lspci
[00:22] <_NiC> Phong_, uh, no.
[00:22] <Phong_> ?
[00:23] <_NiC> Phong_, that's not the output of the restart command.
[00:23] <Phong_> should i just restart pc????? will help??
[00:24] <Phong_> brb i restart
[00:26] <_NiC> Phong_, that depends on the output of that command.. :-)
[00:27] <_NiC> [    2.823292] scsi 0:0:0:0: Direct-Access     ATA      Corsair CSSD-F60 1.1  PQ: 0 ANSI: 5
[00:27] <_NiC> has been working fine so far.
[00:27] <Phong_> nic restart dont help
[00:27] <Phong_> tell me again please
[00:28] <subz3r0> hi all
[00:28] <_NiC> Phong_, if you're not able to tell me what happens when you're asked to run a command, things kindof stop.
[00:28] <Phong_> ok i run for u brb
[00:28] <subz3r0> can someone please tell me where the sound settings are in lubuntu?
[00:30] <Phong_> phong_@p:~$ sudo service sshd restart
[00:30] <osx> Hola
[00:31] <Phong_> _nic
[00:31] <_NiC> Phong_, how useful do you think it is to show us the same command we asked you to run?
[00:31] <Phong_> hmm
[00:32] <Phong_> cause i dont know
[00:32] <_NiC> Phong_, does anything appear on your screen below that line?
[00:32] <_NiC> Phong_, I assume you did press enter?
[00:32] <Phong_> yes, back to command prompt
[00:33] <_NiC> Phong_, before the new command prompt.
[00:34] <Phong_> phong_@p:~$ sudo service sshd restart
[00:34] <Phong_> that is it
[00:34] <Phong_> not sure what more u need to know
[00:35] <_NiC> so no message that looks like "sshd: unrecognized service"?
[00:35] <testing123321> ?
[00:35] <Phong_> i just did copy n paste for u
[00:35] <Phong_> look
[00:35] <van> anyone using gimp? in photoshop when i select part of a layer and press DEL or cut it just removes part of layer. in gimp it changes color of selected part to the second selected color. how can i remove it liek in photoshop?
[00:35] <_NiC> testing123321, you have successfully typed a question mark on irc. Congratulations?
[00:36] <_NiC> Phong_, you have pasted the command you typed.
[00:36] <acerimmer> !gimp|van
[00:36] <testing123321> How do I chat with someone ?
[00:36] <_NiC> Phong_, I don't care about the command. I care about the result.
[00:36] <subz3r0> how can i select the default audio card on lubuntu?
[00:36] <phatJoe> chazilla rullez
[00:36] <_NiC> testing123321, we're chatting just now. Congratulations.
[00:37] <Phong_> oh ok...well that is the result. the one u type
[00:37] <Phong_> what should i do next?
[00:37] <_NiC> Phong_, ask a friend to help you. I don't think we'll get anywhere.
[00:37] <Phong_> crying
[00:38] <_NiC> It's the middle of the night here, so I'm gonna go get some sleep.
[00:38] <Xourii> is it really possible to put ubuntu on an android phone?
[00:38] <acerimmer> sound
[00:38] <Phong_> ok
[00:39] <Jordan_U> Xourii: It's not something we'd support here at the moment even if it were, so #ubuntu-offtopic is a better place to discuss it.
[00:39] <roadfish> van: there is a #gimp channel. but is less active than ##ubuntu
[00:39] <ikonia> #ubuntu-arm maybe
[00:39] <van> roadfish, thank you
[00:43] <rasterizer_> Hello everyone, is there a way to stop overheating of laptop when power cord is plugged in with battery. I am using ubuntu 11.04 with bare bones on dell xps sutdio
[00:44] <ikonia> rasterizer_: bare bones ?
[00:44] <rasterizer_> ikona, just have the minimum install
[00:44] <rasterizer_> with unity
[00:44] <ikonia> rasterizer_: why are you not using a normal install
[00:44] <ikonia> rasterizer_: with all the things like power managment installed ?
[00:44] <jmscomtech> how do i update my system if it keeps saying needs to install untrusted apps?
[00:45] <jutnux> jmscomtech: Just allow it.
[00:45] <ikonia> jmscomtech: why would you install untrusted applications ?
[00:45] <rasterizer_> ikonia, yes it is
[00:45] <ikonia> rasterizer_: yes it is what ?
[00:45] <jmscomtech> trying to do the update manager and its not giving me option to allow it
[00:46] <jmscomtech> nvm just had to kill jockey-end exit progry
[00:46] <rasterizer_> ikonia, i have the basic install ( normal) not many things
[00:47] <ikonia> rasterizer_: if it's overheating you a probably lacking supported power managment hardware within ubuntu
[00:48] <rasterizer_> i tried google search and somewhere it was advised to use boot option with noacpi
[00:48] <Xourii> is there some kind of hypercam-like screen recording program for ubuntu?
[00:48] <skinnydean> Hello all, I am trying to figure out a problem, I am having with switching users.
[00:49] <gh0strider> does anyone here have any experience with FCEUX nes emulator for ubuntu?
[00:49] <dr_willis> gh0strider:  you should just state the problem and see who knows..
[00:49] <skinnydean> When I swithch the screen goes blank and won't display any login page.
[00:50] <rasterizer_> I want to know what happens if I boot ubuntu with noacpi boot option
[00:50] <ikonia> rasterizer_: try it, see if it helps
[00:50] <skinnydean> I don't know if its a hardware problem or an OS.
[00:51] <rasterizer_> Okay, I will give it a try then
[00:51] <Jeruvy> skinnydean, if it works for one user it's probably not a hardware issue.
[00:51] <skinnydean> This is an issue for all users.
[00:52] <gh0strider> well i am trying to use my keryboard with the GFCE UltraX nes emulator but i can't figure out any of the keys and so i am not really sure how to configure the keyboard because there are no options like on "Snes" oh by the way does anyone here know if you can play NES games on the SNES Emulator so far it has not worked for me...?
[00:52] <rasterizer_> skinnydean, did you do any upgrade recently
[00:52] <ikonia> gh0strider: you cannot
[00:52] <gh0strider> or does anyone here have a good recommendation for a good nes emulator for ubuntu?
[00:53] <dr_willis> gh0strider:  the snes emus dont normally do nes. theres a few multi-machine enumators out there.  i dont know whats in the repos any more.
[00:53] <simpson1897_> 13
[00:54] <skinnydean> yes, how ever this has been happening ever since I got the OS installed.
[00:54] <gh0strider> i found gfce ultrax in the repo's but i can't figure out the keys for it...
[00:55] <gh0strider> gfce ultrax works great for nes games i just can't play them, and i really want to!!
[00:55] <biohazard135> Hey, I installed a fresh copy of ubuntu 11.10 and my laptop trackpad doesn't work. I looked on google (https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticsTouchpad) and I know the device id, what do I need to do exactly to get it to work?
[00:55] <gh0strider> hehe =-P
[00:55] <dr_willis> gh0strider:  check its homepage, and perhaps docs in /usr/share/doc/
[00:55] <gh0strider> i checked out the home page...not much help
[00:55] <gh0strider> f.a.q wasn't that good either
[00:56] <dr_willis> there is a gui front end to that emu in the repos i saw just now. may have some remap settings..
[00:56] <dr_willis> !info gfceu
[00:58] <pp7> is there such a thing as a gtk3 theme maker?
[00:58] <dr_willis> gh0strider:  google search here finds --> http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20100120194830AAkwN12
[00:59] <dr_willis> pp7:  not that ive heard about.
[00:59] <pp7> k :(
[00:59] <dr_willis> gtk3 themes can be a bit complex from what i read.
[00:59] <dr_willis> not just changeing some pixmaps
[00:59] <pp7> yea
[00:59] <pp7> is there a way to do an animated progressbar in gtk3?
[01:00] <gh0strider> dr_willis: i don't think that is for ultrax but thanks for the help anyways
[01:00] <gh0strider> i really appreciate it
[01:01] <dr_willis> gh0strider:  also  http://fceultra.sourceforge.net/fceux-sdl-docs.php#using-keys-gamepad
[01:05] <kristianpaul> Hi all
[01:05] <jenia> hello everyone
[01:05] <kristianpaul> Where i can find more informantion about the plans to have Ubuntu on phones?
[01:05] <jenia> i'm using wireshark and i see that i have some process that is contantly sending packets to some unknwo ip address
[01:05] <jenia> in india and in thailand and something
[01:05] <jenia> small packets and the destination port is unreachable
[01:06] <jenia> does anyone know what is happening?
[01:07] <kah> hey, if i want to cut in my windows and paste in my ubuntu VM what is the shortcut?
[01:07] <kristianpaul> wiki dont show anything yet? :-)  i guess
[01:10] <kah> Any ideas :D
[01:10] <kah> hey, if i want to cut in my windows and paste in my ubuntu VM what is the shortcut?
[01:11] <noahnoah> Hi.  Having some major problems with video drivers.  Running the Ubuntu 11.10 with latest updates.  Tried to install driver updates directly from nvidia.com.  That killed my X.  So I uninstalled, removed them, and then used apt-get to reinstall the nvidia drivers from ubuntu.  Booting into recovery loads everything beautifully.  Booting into "regular" gives me a "Purple screen of death".  I've followed the instructions here
[01:11] <noahnoah> http://askubuntu.com/questions/37590/nvidia-drivers-not-working-after-upgrade-why-can-i-only-see-terminal
[01:11] <noahnoah> Can anyone help me sort this out??
[01:11] <dr_willis> would depend on what vm you are using i imagine kah. and if you have the feature enabled.
[01:11] <urlin2u> kristianpaul, might try here. http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTAxMDY
[01:11] <nuse> i'm tyring to get into unity but applying any kind of theme is a real pain it seems like
[01:11] <kah> im using virtualmachine
[01:11] <em> Did anyone notice that Unity kind of slows down a machine?
[01:11] <kah> virtualbox
[01:11] <kah> oracle
[01:11] <shovell> anyone here play tremulous?
[01:11] <dr_willis> em:  it uses compiz so it takes a bit of power.
[01:11] <kristianpaul> em: yup
[01:12] <dr_willis> kah:  you did check the vbox manual at its homepage?
[01:12] <kristianpaul> em: just try 2d
[01:12] <em> I'm glad that people really like it and it's a well designed thing because if it weren't so popular it would be unfortunate that it also makes your machine slower.
[01:12] <kristianpaul> and kill python ;)
[01:12] <kah> no i didn't... i figured it's such a common thing that it is easier to ask than to find
[01:13] <nuse> i'm trying to give it a chance but i'm already almost over it and its only been a couple hours
[01:13] <kristianpaul> urlin2u: erggh, may be i forgot to price i meant development plans for getting Ubuntu on phones
[01:13] <dr_willis> webupd8 blog site has some guides on setting up themes in unity/gnome-shell
[01:13] <kristianpaul> ergh
[01:13] <kristianpaul> sorry
[01:13] <kristianpaul> damn google spam confuse me
[01:14] <kristianpaul> .8
[01:14] <urlin2u> kristianpaul, cool.
[01:14] <Phong_> ejv
[01:14] <Phong_> i got it work
[01:15] <nuse> dr_willis: i've been trying them
[01:15] <Phong_> ejv, it was set to listen to user defind port not 22
[01:15] <Phong_> Lol
[01:15] <kristianpaul> urlin2u: yes thanks
[01:15] <nuse> to no avail
[01:15] <nuse> bbl
[01:15] <rb26> any one who knows how to add desktops effects to XFCE
[01:16] <jmscomtech> um did my install bugg out as in nautilus folders and files all have same icon?
[01:17] <noahnoah> Can anyone help me with my X config problem??
[01:17] <shovell> is there a .ogg codec that doesnt come with ubuntu 11.10?
[01:17] <dr_willis> shovell:  i normally install ubuntu-restricted-extras package and i can play most any file i find.
[01:18] <Ben64> noahnoah: you should never install drivers from nvidia.com
[01:18] <noahnoah> Ben64:  YES, I just learned that the hard way today.  Now I'm stuck...
[01:18] <Ben64> noahnoah: are you on another computer right now
[01:18] <noahnoah> Ben64: Yes
[01:19] <noahnoah> Trusty iMac
[01:19] <Ben64> cool, start ubuntu up in normal mode
[01:19] <osmosis> is it easy to install LVM encryption on a install that was not installed with encryption?
[01:19] <shovell> the game i am playing says http://pastebin.com/cpuR7BMw and i looked i have "libogg0"
[01:19] <shovell> dr_willis, sorry still not used to irc
[01:20] <noahnoah> Ben64:  That will just hang after the GRUB screen
[01:21] <Ben64> noahnoah: what do you mean "hang"
[01:21] <dr_willis> shovell:  could be the game wants a newer version of that lib. not a 'codec'
[01:21] <noahnoah> I get the "purple screen", but no logo.  Then box is un-responsive
[01:21] <dadda> exit
[01:21] <shovell> dr_willis, hmm i have been looking cant find one
[01:22] <dr_willis> or your game install is missing files
[01:23] <dr_willis> tremulous 1.1.0_SVN1117M linux-x86 Dec 13 2008   <------- err.... how did you install this version?
[01:23] <Ben64> noahnoah: have you tried ctrl+alt+f1
[01:23] <noahnoah> Ben64:  Yes.  doesn't work
[01:24] <Ben64> looks like you might have bigger problems than an nvidia driver then
[01:24] <jmscomtech> um just wondering have u actually activadted the nvidia drivers
[01:24] <noahnoah> Wonder if it is a plymouth issue?  (I ran some plymouth fix script someone suggested here.)
[01:24] <shovell> dr_willis,  well i dl'ed the tremulous with ubuntu software center then applied a patch from mercianeriesguilg.com
[01:25] <noahnoah> Yes, I used apt-get install --reinstlal nvidia
[01:25] <sauevaem> test
[01:25] <sauevaem> Hello.
[01:25] <sauevaem> Can someone help me?
[01:25] <rypervenche> sauevaem: What's up?
[01:25] <jmscomtech> oh so u didnt activate using the icon in taskbar then
[01:25] <jmscomtech> ?
[01:25] <Ben64> noahnoah: that's not the correct way to use nvidia drivers either
[01:25] <noahnoah> Ben64: Yes
[01:26] <semitones_tea> hello :)
[01:26] <jmscomtech> u installed a very old driver
[01:26] <shovell> dr_willis, ####### mercianeriesguild.com #########
[01:26] <sauevaem> Just installed amd drivers catalyst 12.1 from amd site. (those from ubuntu repo weren't working)
[01:26] <Ben64> jmscomtech: but the system should still start up, just without X, he has to have some other problem as well
[01:27] <jmscomtech> noahnoah normaly to activate there will be a hardware icon in taskbar to activate and install the drivers
[01:27] <semitones_tea> I'm in lubuntu 10.04 -- I like the high resolution of the screen, but words and icons are a little hard to read. Is there a way to make just words and icons bigger? (iirc, 125dpi or something)
[01:27] <sauevaem> Everything works fine except
[01:27] <shovell> dr_willis,  sorry that was wrong too
[01:27] <jmscomtech> ben64 no it dopesnt as nuveua is used and hasnt been disabled u get stack at the purple screen which glitchs
[01:28] <jmscomtech> its happend to me once and i learnt my lesson
[01:28] <semitones_tea> bueller?
[01:28] <Ben64> jmscomtech: that shouldn't happen though...
[01:28] <jmscomtech> um noahnoah what happens when u hit alt+f1 or f4?
[01:28] <sauevaem> one error BrokenCount>0
[01:28] <sauevaem> apt-get check
[01:28] <noahnoah> jmscomtech:  Nothing.  But I can get in through recovery
[01:28] <sauevaem> returns  fglrx-amdcccle : Wymaga: fglrx ale nie jest zainstalowany
[01:28] <sauevaem>  fglrx-dev : Wymaga: fglrx ale nie jest zainstalowany
[01:29] <sauevaem> It's polish.
[01:29] <sauevaem> But it says that fglrx isn't installed
[01:29] <glosoli> What problem folks here are trying to solve ?
[01:29] <Ben64> noahnoah: i guess then start in recovery, remove all the nvidia stuff, start back up in normal mode and use the Proprietary Drivers thing to install nvidia
[01:30] <shovell> ever played tremulous?
[01:30] <jmscomtech> ben64: its because in xorg its trying to use both nuveua and the nvidia drivers at same time, if installed the correct way it disables and correctly installs the drivers for nvidia, but nuveua has to be disabled before the nvidia drivers get installed or xorg will forever look up nuveua
[01:30] <semitones_tea> I'm in lubuntu 10.04 -- I like the high resolution of the screen, but words and icons are a little hard to read. Is there a way to make just words and icons bigger? (iirc, 125dpi or something)
[01:30] <Ben64> jmscomtech: i guess i've never had that problem because i refuse to give up my xorg.conf :)
[01:31] <jmscomtech> yeah happens when u try out stuff
[01:31] <jmscomtech> never apt-get the drivers allways activate the hardware recomended
[01:32] <jmscomtech> its one lesson i learnt the hardway
[01:32] <glosoli> jmscomtech: So that means that most of the time you activate quite out dated drivers, if you use ATI
[01:32] <amaroks> Hello, I install mint-mate, then remove it and now all windows look like windows classic and I dont like it
[01:32] <amaroks> What can I do to have it look as before?
[01:32] <jenia> hello everyone. my internet connection is constantly being used
[01:32] <sauevaem> jmscomech you were asking me?
[01:32] <jenia> do you know how can i find out what process are sending packets?
[01:33] <Blue1> iptraf?
[01:33] <sauevaem> Can someone tell me how to fix this. I'm new to linux but it supposed to be easy one.
[01:33] <Nach0z> iptraf is a great one. iftop and lsof are also good tools to use
[01:34] <glosoli> sauevaem: Pardon me, haven't heard of your problem
[01:34] <Nach0z> sauevaem: yer installing ATI drivers?
[01:34] <dr_willis> shovell:  i would look for the game in a ubuntu ppa or repo. not downloading from some web site
[01:34] <sauevaem> After manual instalation of catalyst 12.1
[01:34] <sauevaem> installation*
[01:34] <Nach0z> sauevaem: don't have a CLUE then. I never got fglrx to work either.
[01:34] <amaroks> Hello, I install mint-mate, then remove it and now all windows look like windows classic and I dont like it
[01:34] <amaroks> What can I do to have it look as before?
[01:34] <dr_willis> !info tremulous
[01:34] <sauevaem> I'v got fglrx not installed error
[01:34] <jmscomtech> glsoli i dont use ati in linux at all
[01:35] <glosoli> sauevaem: What do you call manual that sudo sh amd*.run --buildpkg Ubuntu/oneiric ?
[01:35] <jmscomtech> and ati side is a diferent matter intirely
[01:35] <glosoli> jmscomtech: Ah, sorry, my mistake
[01:35] <shovell> dr_willis, i did and the game works it is just one server that i connect to that has .ogg files that it cannot open
[01:35] <sauevaem> glosoli yeah
[01:35] <glosoli> sauevaem: So explain me what went wrong. Reinstalled drivers and ubuntu today.
[01:35] <Ziefin> Can someone help me with drivers for ethernet connection?
[01:36] <glosoli> sauevaem: And everything went fine for me
[01:36] <amaroks> Hello, I install mint-mate, then remove it and now all windows look like windows classic and I dont like it
[01:36] <amaroks> What can I do to have it look as before?
[01:36] <amaroks> only programs windows
[01:36] <xangua> !mint | amaroks
[01:36] <amaroks> I removed it, im on ubuntu
[01:36] <amaroks> No longer mint-mate
[01:36] <glosoli> amaroks: But it's mint problem, not ubuntu.
[01:37] <glosoli> amaroks: We can't give you feedback for Mint toolkits. Try that linuxmint help irc chat
[01:37] <_skpl> sounds more like an ubuntu problem
[01:37] <Ziefin> l
[01:37] <glosoli> amaroks: But you may try using Ubuntu Tweak to set Windows Theme properly :)
[01:38] <semitones_tea> I'm in lubuntu 10.04 -- I like the high resolution of the screen, but words and icons are a little hard to read. Is there a way to make just words and icons bigger? (iirc, 125dpi or something)
[01:38] <Blue1> semitones_tea: yes
[01:38] <jmscomtech> is there anyway to get apps to minimize to tray but it going to tint2 instead?
[01:38] <dr_willis> shovell:  sounds ti me like the server may need some extra map pack then you have to download.
[01:39] <glosoli> jmscomtech: what means "to tint2" ?
[01:39] <noahnoah> OK,  Interesting update.  The problem appears to be Plymouth.  I disabled it for a boot, and everything worked beautifully.  So, now I just need to configure it properl
[01:39] <semitones_tea> Blue1, are you familiar with it? I've tried finding out how online but with no success
[01:39] <Ziefin> does anyone know why ubuntu wont work with the asus P5N32-sli Premium onboard ethernet?
[01:39] <dr_willis> noahnoah:  i tend to disable plymouth and leave it off. :)
[01:39] <shovell> dr_willis, thank you
[01:40] <osmosis> anyone have enigmail working with thunderbird?
[01:40] <jmscomtech> glosoli: tint2 is a minimal bottom bar that allows u to see whats open
[01:40] <noahnoah> dr_willis:  Makes sense.  What do you use for a nice boot?
[01:40] <glosoli> jmscomtech: Gnome Shell ?
[01:40] <noahnoah> One issue is that I have to enter a password to unlock the drive.  With plymouth off, the password shows on the screen for all to see :(
[01:40] <jmscomtech> nope
[01:41] <glosoli> jmscomtech: Sorry for oftopic, never heard of it, do you think it is worth trying ?
[01:41] <jmscomtech> u have to sudo apt-get install tint2 ,  then in startup apps do a name tint2 and command tint2 next time u login ull have a bar on bottom of screen like a dock that shows whats open
[01:41] <dsevil> is anyone familiar with that "degraded raid devices" warning?  i get that and a few seconds later mdstat says everything's fine ( 976759936 blocks [2/2] [UU] )
[01:42] <dannel> +1 for tint2.. makes unity usable
[01:42] <Blue1> semitones_tea: System/Preferences/System Settings/Application Appearence/Icons/Font Size/
[01:42] <dsevil> i'm booting off an ssd so maybe something's being done too fast :-)
[01:42] <jmscomtech> glosoli: its bout 400kb and works nicely
[01:42] <tweet> Hi there!! I tried to do some boot repair stuff... And now I am unable to boot into any kernel of Linux... I see the boot menu but every option gives me error: invalid character `'. error:arch independent elf magic... "linux vmlinuz ..." also gives me the same error
[01:42] <jmscomtech> but like i said cant minimise to taskbar still
[01:42] <glosoli> jmscomtech: It's kinda of a old gnome style panel which showed all tasks ?
[01:43] <jmscomtech> yeah
[01:43] <glosoli> jmscomtech: Ok, thanks for feedback
[01:43] <sauevaem> glosoli: I've got radeon hd 6720. Drivers from ubuntu repo aren't working so I downloaded catalyst from amd site and installed it manually. Now I've got BrokenCount>0 error message.  apt-get check is returning error: fglrx-amdcccle needs fglrx but is not installed (my translation). Update manager tries to uninstall fglrx-dev and fglrx-amdcccle and install driver from ubuntu repo.
[01:43] <dr_willis> noahnoah:  when i have 4+ week uptimes i dont care what the boot screen looks like. :)
[01:43] <glosoli> sauvaem: I know you problem.
[01:44] <acerimmer> tweet: boot repair meaning grub?  reinstall grub
[01:44] <sauevaem> glosoli: Do you know solution?
[01:45] <tweet> acerimmer - I have tried it all.. using chroot from live cd .... every thing
[01:45] <acerimmer> tweet: anything non-standard?  dual-boot/wubi/multiple hdd's/ssd?
[01:47] <tweet> I do have an SSD...I can disable RAID in BIOS and boot in the IDE / AHCI mode ... will that work ?
[01:48] <em> !info jsonrpc
[01:48] <em> is there any python-jsonrpc library in the repos?
[01:48] <acerimmer> tweet: my knowledge stops @ triple booting on a single HDD.  If you have dedicated /home I'd say go it - your user data should be safe in the event of catastrophic failure/reinstallation.
[01:48] <dr_willis> !find jsonrpc
[01:51] <|DM|> hello, how do I monitor all inbound connections to ubuntu?
[01:51] <em> dr_willis: oh great it is in oneiric but not in Natty then?
[01:51] <Ziefin> wireshark
[01:51] <tweet> acerimmer: I have dual boot, Windows 7 and Ubuntu 11.10 - both 64 bit .. both have separate data partitions (/home for ubuntu)...
[01:52] <Farnaby> I have to say, after being forced to upgrade firefox to 9.01 while running the 10.4 (I am a sucker for LTS) it has gone to pot. Useable but terrible.
[01:52] <|DM|> ziefin well that is the obvious solution, I meant something inbuilt.
[01:53] <xangua> fx 9 already came to Official lts updates Farnaby ¿¿
[01:54] <Farnaby> I know xangua, I just get terrible performance out of it now that the upgrade landed on me today.
[01:54] <acerimmer> tweet: so boot WAS working at one point, yes?  If so, I can't grok why a grub re-installation wouldn't work...  sorry, but idk.  Unless you CHANGED grub on re-installation?
[01:56] <tweet> acerimmer: Yes, it has been working... for the last few days I was unable to update the booth menu thought the grub.cfg was updated... I was wondering why. Then boot-repair or grub customizer screwed it up for me
[01:58] <acerimmer> tweet: frustrating.  check with #grub
[01:58] <Kimble> Hey. What's the simplest way of setting up a Drop Box (ie. writable by all, readable only by the owner) on Ubuntu that can be accessed acros my LAN?  All connecting machines run OS X.
[01:58] <dr_willis> Kimble:  samba  perhaps.
[01:59] <dr_willis> not sure what features OS-X has if it can do nfs, or other ways.
[01:59] <hceylan> #jmeter
[02:00] <Kimble> dr_willis: actually, not entirely sure myself.  Samba's a definite yes; NFS is also ( I just checked).
[02:00] <tweet> acerimmer: yes it has been frustrating.. thanks fr your suggestion... I will go over to grub
[02:00] <luwei> hello everyone
[02:00] <acerimmer> luwei: nihao
[02:01] <Kimble> luwei: konichiwa
[02:01] <Kimble> acerimmer: how'd you like your kippers?
[02:02] <acerimmer> Kimble: smoked and with my breakfast tea, please.
[02:02] <Kimble> I assume NFS is built-in to Ubuntu as standard, and wouldn't require any installs, right?
[02:02] <Kimble> acerimmer: ^_^
[02:02] <victor__> hola
[02:04] <Kimble> victor__: que tal?
[02:04] <victor__> que paso
[02:04] <victor__> que haces?
[02:05] <victor__> kimble
[02:05] <acerimmer> !sp|victor
[02:05] <h00k> !es | victor__
[02:05] <urlin2u> !es | victor__
[02:10] <DylanJ> I did an update just now and now my ubuntu doesn't recognize my thinkpad l420's display anymore. I'm just getting 1024x768 and 800x600.
[02:10] <DylanJ> Wat do?
[02:11] <DylanJ> latest ubuntu.
[02:11] <acerimmer> DylanJ: what kind of graphics card??
[02:11] <DylanJ> working fine for the last month +
[02:11] <DylanJ> acerimmer: sandy bridge ~_~ intel i3
[02:12] <Farnaby> Ok, this is reaching the point of unacceptable. A page taht used to take less then a second to load is now taking close to 15 seconds to load. I guess its time tomove over to Chromium even though I didn't like it hte last time I liked it.
[02:13] <dr_willis> i use chrome all the time these days. havent used ff in ages. :)
[02:14] <alexandre> bonsoir a tous
[02:14] <alexandre> et vive ubuntu
[02:15] <acerimmer> !fr|alexandre
[02:15] <mango> last little while FF has been updating ALL the time..no improvement
[02:15] <Farnaby> sadly.... chrome isn't working much better. I guess its more then just firefox.... Great, I am going to have digger
[02:15] <dr_willis> cant really comment on ff at all :) been ages.
[02:16] <dr_willis> Farnaby:  as a test try opera? how about a ping test. could be some slow dns resolving going on.
[02:16] <alexandre> yes fr
[02:16] <mango> opera's been hit and miss for me, havent used it in awhile though
[02:16] <alexandre> ok thank
[02:17] <Farnaby> dr_willis ping google.com is returning times in the 80 ms range. Not phenomonal but acceptable.
[02:17] <dr_willis> was usong opera for a while.because i also had it on my phone. but to many little issues.. and the extras features it had. were things i did not need
[02:17] <dr_willis> Farnaby:  how about the initial ping whenit looks up the name/ip#? vs just pinging the ip#
[02:19] <sontek> after an update my ubuntu machine now just boots up to a busybox prompt that says (initramfs)
[02:19] <sontek> any ideas?
[02:19] <dr_willis> sontek:  anything happen befor it started doing this? Power failure? failed updates?
[02:20] <Farnaby> dr_willis about the same sadly.
[02:20] <Farnaby> I should have looked a little closer at what the updates were this morning I suspect
[02:20] <sontek> dr_willis: not anything that comes to mind, definitely could have had some failed updates or something but nothing I noticed
[02:20] <dr_willis> Farnaby:  could be some other network congestion going on. hard to trouble shoot stuff like this at times.
[02:20] <acerimmer> sontek: kernel update will do that sometimes.  try booting an earlier kernel - should have a choice when teh grub menu boots.
[02:20] <dr_willis> tap the shift key to make the grub menu appear if its hidding by default.
[02:21] <sontek> acerimmer: I don't have an older kernel option
[02:21] <sontek> its actually weird, the design of the grub prompt says debian now
[02:21] <agu10^> Help
[02:21] <acerimmer> :~
[02:21] <sontek> the list still has ubuntu as the option
[02:21] <sontek> just the grub gui is debian
[02:21] <dr_willis> sontek:  you have more then 1 linux installed?
[02:21] <bagels> I'm in the root and disk and admin groups.  Why can't I see my NTFS and FAT filesystems so that I can mount them? How do I set the to auto-mount?
[02:21] <dr_willis> !ask | agu10^
[02:21] <Farnaby> If its jsut some other network congestion then I am a bit surprised honestly my phone is running pretty quickly ont he smae wifi just now
[02:21] <sontek> dr_willis: nope, this machine has been only running debian since november
[02:21] <agu10^> Panic ocurred when installinh
[02:21] <Farnaby> sontek ubuntu is debian based
[02:21] <bagels> I try reading the documentation on the websites and it's all gibberish to me
[02:22] <dr_willis> sontek:  so... when did you install ubuntu?
[02:22] <sontek> dr_willis: its prompts are still "Ubuntu, with Linux 2.6.38-8-generic"
[02:22] <agu10^> Im from the phone
[02:22] <cgfree> hi is there anyone who could help me with mounting my iphone3g on ubuntu 10.04 - it is recognized with lsusb, i have followed many guides but still im not sure what im doing wrong
[02:22] <sontek> dr_willis: November
[02:22] <agu10^> When running 11.10 live cd. Panic ocurred
[02:22] <sontek> Farnaby: I know, but usually the grub prompt is customized to be ubuntu... and it used to be
[02:22] <dr_willis> sontek:  its odd that theres not several kernel versions in the grub menus.  Seems to be a updated kernel about every month.
[02:23] <Farnaby> I think there were about 6-8 in 2011
[02:23] <dr_willis> sontek:  so what release of ubuntu are you using?
[02:23] <xangua> cgfree: the only way you could mount it on Lucid are 1.using an older iOS version 2. Jail break it
[02:23] <sontek> dr_willis: the one that came with unity
[02:23] <sontek> dr_willis: don't remember the version
[02:24] <agu10^> panic' before even booting
[02:24] <bagels> I'm in the root and disk and admin groups.  Why can't I see my NTFS and FAT filesystems so that I can mount them? How do I set the to auto-mount?
[02:24] <dr_willis> the last 2 releases had unity. :)
[02:24] <Farnaby> agu10` eject the cd?
[02:24] <cgfree> xangua - i dont beleive that to be true. i have had it functional on my desktop, and i remember there was something i had to edit i think an fstab or something to tell ubuntu to auto mount if present and if not do nothing
[02:24] <Farnaby> might just be a bad a burn
[02:24] <acerimmer> agu10^: bad iso.  did you sumcheck that cdrom??
[02:24] <dr_willis> agu10^:  could be a badly burnt cd/iso file/ or currupted iso download. double check the md5's of theiso file befor burning it.
[02:24] <agu10^> No vd. Pendrrive. I tried manu times
[02:24] <acerimmer> agu10^: still need to check
[02:24] <agu10^> Ok
[02:25] <dr_willis> agu10^:  and/or try some differnt tools at pendrivelinux site to make the usb drive
[02:25] <agu10^> Ok
[02:25] <dr_willis> I think some of those tools can auto-check the md5 when it downloads theiso
[02:25] <xangua> cgfree: and when was that¿¿ when lucid came out¿
[02:25] <Farnaby> never had any luck with pendrives the few times I used them for an entire CD but that was back when I was in college
[02:25] <agu10^> How do i check md5?
[02:25] <dr_willis> !md5
[02:26] <cgfree> xangua, hmmm may have been a whiiile - lol
[02:27] <Farnaby> I <3 bots
[02:27] <xangua> cgfree: well when lucid came out, it coud manage latest iOS version at the time, then iOS updated and it could no more; and the history repeats with every ubuntu/iOS release
[02:29] <Farnaby> xangua: that is one of the reasons I have for keeping my mac mini around.
[02:30] <Farnaby> Now this makes me laugh, a text only page laods slower then youtube. Thats bizarre.
[02:31] <cgfree> xangua, somehow we have to teach the "haves" to unite with the "have-nots" so that maybe perhaps we could co-inhabit this planet and share the "technology" which we have founded together --- also to remind everyone, these "technologies" were not sought after for the mere purpose of greedy corporate money miners, these "technologies" were developments from trial and error to improve the quality of human existance
[02:31] <dr_willis> Farnaby:  perhaps test with a live cd - see if the network is still slow. that would point to it being an isp issue. or other issue not a setting on your machine problem.
[02:31] <Farnaby> dr_willis I am going to go one better actually and test with a whole other machine on the same network
[02:32] <dr_willis> Farnaby:  yep. could be some quirky issue on your lan also.. dog chewed on the cat5 :)
[02:33] <jmscomtech> damn my updates aint working was doing updates then had blackout and now the updates hangs on applying changes and not downloading updates help
[02:33] <Farnaby> Dr_willis I hope its not that, since I have never seen him!
[02:33] <githelp> Hi all i am tryingi to install git on Ubuntu and I have followed this guide so far: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Git and supplemented it with this: http://scie.nti.st/2007/11/14/hosting-git-repositories-the-easy-and-secure-way. however i cannot get past the "git clone" part. it keeps prompting me for a password. any help there?
[02:34] <Farnaby> could be the girlfriend though, I think she tripped over a cable somewhere last week and I haven't been homemuch
[02:34] <g0kul> githelp, you have to add your ssh key
[02:34] <githelp> g0kul: i already did that
[02:35] <cgfree> xangua, so even with the use of ifuse and its libs theres no possible way to do it with ubuntu 10.04? ...is it possible with the newer releases?
[02:35] <dr_willis> !info ifuse
[02:35] <cgfree> ?
[02:35] <dr_willis> its in the newer releases. :) at least.. no idea if it works..
[02:35] <g0kul> then there is something wrong with the way you did, it works everytime. Are you cloning the public pull url
[02:35] <jmscomtech> how do i perform the update manager in termn so i can see whats happening?
[02:36] <acerimmer> jmscomtech: sudo apt-get update
[02:36] <dr_willis> jmscomtech:  could use the cli tools.. 'sudo apt-get update' 'sudo apt-get upgrade'
[02:36] <jmscomtech> is it install updates or upgrades?
[02:36] <dr_willis> jmscomtech:  both...
[02:36] <jmscomtech> update buy itself just updates the sources
[02:36] <xangua> cgfree: i have no idea if latest ubuntu supports latest iOS, don't even know neither care what iOS current version is; go to convince apple to Share tecnology XD
[02:37] <githelp> g0kul: i am trying this: git clone gitosis@yourserver.com:gitosis-admin.git
[02:37] <dr_willis> update - gets the latest listing..upgade. does theactual new installing
[02:37] <jmscomtech> ok so its upgrade
[02:37] <dr_willis> you must update, befor you upgrade.. (normally)
[02:37] <dr_willis> if you want to be totally up to date
[02:37] <jmscomtech> ahh was afraid the upgrade was gona upgrade me to the 12.04
[02:37] <dr_willis> you are confused about what upgade means.
[02:37] <dr_willis> :)
[02:37] <acerimmer> jmscomtech: no before it's release
[02:38] <Farnaby> I prefer clean installs personally :)
[02:38] <dr_willis> apt-get upgrade wont upgrade to thenext release
[02:38] <Farnaby> the mac is running faster then this box (on older hardware) but still slow to a degree
[02:38] <acerimmer> Farnaby: i like my installs like I ... nevermind
[02:38] <dr_willis> neither will a sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[02:38] <jmscomtech> so do i , oh so dist-upgrade is what upgrades to next distro?
[02:38] <Farnaby> lol acerimmer
[02:38] <jmscomtech> oh ?
[02:38] <dr_willis> jmscomtech: no it wont. :)
[02:38] <jmscomtech> im geting confused now lol
[02:39] <Farnaby> I might just let this sit until tomorrow when I am not drinking beer
[02:39] <dr_willis> its just a deeper more intensive upgrade ofheld back packages
[02:39] <jmscomtech> its what happens when u change from mandriva
[02:39] <g0kul> githelp, i thought it would be like git@yourserver.com:gitosis-admin.git
[02:39] <dr_willis> every so often i see a kernel package thats held back, or driver packages.
[02:39] <dr_willis> there are speicfic tools to upgrade to the next release.
[02:40] <rocketfish2> be nice and ban testteed -- > [20:38] <testteed> Find movies, music, games, applications and more using IRC www.4xdcc.info
[02:40] <jmscomtech> ok thanks for info dr_willis just i like to know whats happening during updates and the gui doesnt help
[02:40] <rocketfish2> thanks
[02:40] <Besa> Hello
[02:40] <githelp> g0kul: no the guide i referenced said that the user that was installed would be gitosis, the user git does not exist in /etc/passwd
[02:40] <rocketfish2> thanks
[02:40] <acerimmer> Besa: hye
[02:40] <rocketfish2> that user is spamming users as they enter
[02:40] <rocketfish2> [20:38] <testteed> Find movies, music, games, applications and more using IRC www.4xdcc.info
[02:40] <rocketfish2> oops
[02:40] <FloodBot1> rocketfish2: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:40] <Besa> I'm trying to install ubuntu desktop remix 10.10 on my Samsung netbook, but I don't know what to do next
[02:41] <Farnaby> besa where are you at with it?
[02:41] <rocketfish2>  http://pastebin.com/awgrAY6f <--- dmesg
[02:41] <rocketfish2> help , usb drive rocketfish 3.5 external usb drive can be used by windows and mac, but not linux. linux sees the hard ware and even a usb flash drive plugged into the rocketfish external drive, but accessing the drive fails.
[02:41] <dr_willis> Besa:  You may want to just use the latest ubuntu release 11.04 -
[02:41] <xangua> Besa: 10.10 is out of support in a couple of months, are you sure is that the ubuntu version you want¿
[02:41] <rocketfish2> the latest is 11.10
[02:41] <almoxarife> i second rocketfish2
[02:41] <Besa> I couldn't find a netbook remix for that version
[02:41] <rocketfish2> ok almoxarife
[02:41] <Besa> and I'm kinda new at this
[02:42] <xangua> !une | Besa
[02:42] <dr_willis> Besa:  because there is no longer a 'netbook' edition.
[02:42] <g0kul> githelp, the link you refered says to create a user git
[02:42] <antimatroid1> do any of you own a mac book pro? do you just leave osx on it or deal with the reduced battery life?
[02:42] <githelp> g0kul: that is the second link, i did not use that primarily i used that supplementally
[02:42] <antimatroid1> i got given one for free, but i'm really hating osx
[02:42] <dr_willis> the unity interface is the default :) so the desktop and netbook interfaces are the same
[02:42] <Farnaby> At this point besa I would go with 11.10 in your shoes.
[02:43] <Besa> Will it give me any trouble with finding drivers and such?  I'm brand new to Linux...don't know any bash commands...
[02:43] <dr_willis> Besa:  thats all the same..
[02:43] <Farnaby> besa, should be close to working out of the box at the very least.
[02:43] <Farnaby> bbiab
[02:43] <dr_willis> test it out on a live usb and see what works.
[02:43] <antimatroid1> also, why is there such a large reduction in battery life from running ubuntu? does it just use more resources?
[02:43] <flowerpot> Besa, try a live CD
[02:44] <Besa> It's just that the installer is asking "who are you", the progress bar says "ready when you are", but the "forward" button is greyed out and I can't see any other way to continue
[02:44] <Besa> the netbook doesn't want to boot from usb cd drive
[02:44] <dr_willis> antimatroid1:  the hw makers often dont release specs for the proper power optimaztions. and theres beensome kenel power bugs lately also.
[02:44] <Besa> so I'm using a flash drive
[02:44] <flowerpot> Can you alter its BIOS?
[02:44] <Besa> I did
[02:44] <flowerpot> So you can't boot from CD or USB even if you specify it in the BIOS
[02:44] <g0kul> githelp, could you try this git://yourserver.com/gitosis-admin.git
[02:44] <Besa> it doesn't recognize a bootable CD on my USB optical drive as a bootable device
[02:44] <antimatroid1> dr_willis: i knew this mac was a terrible idea, oh well
[02:44] <Besa> NO I'm booted from USB flash drive now
[02:44] <flowerpot> Besa, waht about a regular CD?
[02:44] <flowerpot> Besa, oh
[02:45] <Besa> but it won't do it for the optical drive
[02:45] <antimatroid1> it's hard to say no to free :P
[02:45] <Besa> and being a netbook, does not have one built in
[02:45] <dr_willis> antimatroid1:  hopefully in 12.x they will get fixed up..
[02:45] <agu10^> Besa, its not easy like windows or mac, but u can hack it to make it work
[02:45] <flowerpot> Besa, so the problem you're having is that when you attempt to install Ubuntu, you reach a point in the process where you can't see how to proceed due to grayed out button?
[02:45] <Besa> yes
[02:45] <Besa> that's all
[02:45] <flowerpot> Besa, can you give us a screenshot?
[02:45] <gmr_> Hoping someone can help me out, I have a 11.10 server install, trying to get things setup and am having trouble adding an eth0:0 alias. It seems that service networking stop/start/restart doesn't work, I believe I have the config correct (https://gmr.privatepaste.com/64a38a3706) and if I reboot the server, eth0 comes up but eth0:0 does not.
[02:45] <Besa> erm...how?
[02:46] <Besa> it's kinda in the middle of installing an operating system...
[02:46] <dr_willis> i dident even think 10.10 had the netbook edition. :) but i may be getting version #'s wrong
[02:46] <rocketfish2> almoxarife: what are you finding ?
[02:46] <acerimmer> gmr_: just in case #ubuntu-server
[02:46] <Besa> 10.10 was the latest I could find with a netbook version
[02:46] <Besa> I'm talking about this on my desktop
[02:46] <Besa> with the netbook in my lap
[02:46] <dr_willis> Besa:  id dump 10.10 and go with 11.04 -  theres no reason to use 10.10
[02:46] <gmr_> thanks acerimmer
[02:46] <g0kul> githelp, also try ssh<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[02:47] <dr_willis> its not really worth the trouble fighting with 10.10 to get it installed.
[02:47] <rocketfish2> any one know how to get linux to work with a usb 3.5 rocketfish ?
[02:47] <Besa> well great...so now I reformat this partition again
[02:47] <githelp> g0kul: both failed
[02:47] <dr_willis> rocketfish2:  plug it in. chedk dmesg output. mount it by hand perhaps.
[02:47] <Besa> *mutters darkly* =P
[02:47] <rocketfish2>  http://pastebin.com/awgrAY6f <--- dmesg
[02:47] <dr_willis> Besa:  formating a hd should take just a few moments...
[02:47] <rocketfish2> help , usb drive rocketfish 3.5 external usb drive can be used by windows and mac, but not linux. linux sees the hard ware and even a usb flash drive plugged into the rocketfish external drive, but accessing the drive fails.
[02:47] <agu10^> Ubuntu still sucks :'(
[02:48] <rocketfish2> oops
[02:48] <FloodBot1> rocketfish2: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:48] <dr_willis> agu10^:  demand a refund...
[02:48] <Besa> I know
[02:48] <rocketfish2> that was the dmesg output dr_willis
[02:48] <dr_willis> or state a actual support question.
[02:48] <agu10^> Yea i should. All the lost time
[02:48] <Besa> just sick of the circles I've been going in
[02:48] <Besa> lemme go get the iso for 11.10 and I'll be back
[02:48] <g0kul> githelp, follow some other guide, i dont really know the internals
[02:49] <rocketfish2> what do you make of it dr_willis ?
[02:49] <rocketfish2> dr_willis: i have yet to find any one who is not completely mystified by this
[02:50] <dr_willis> rocketfish2:  not sure about the 'offline device' messages. does 'sudo fdisk -l' show the drive?
[02:50] <githelp> g0kul: im asking on the git channel, thanks for the help tho
[02:50] <flowerpot> Besa, regarding screenshots, you can just take a pic with your cell phone or something and then upload it for us.
[02:50] <flowerpot> Besa, but they're right - you should use a more recent version anyway.
[02:50] <rocketfish2> ill check dr_willis , it does show up in dick utility though.
[02:50] <urlin2u> flowerpot, they are gone
[02:50] <flowerpot> If you use a more recent version, the chances of it  succeeding install will go up.
[02:50] <flowerpot> urlin2u, you're right :(
[02:51] <dr_willis> rocketfish2:  if you can tell its /dev/sdXX  you can try mounting it by hand.
[02:51] <urlin2u> flowerpot, the tabs always tells. :D
[02:51] <dr_willis> rocketfish2:  could be the auto monting subsystem is just confuised
[02:51] <urlin2u> *tab
[02:51] <gmr_> anyone able to look at the paste and let me know if I'm just missing something extremely obvious?
[02:52] <rocketfish2> dr_willis: http://pastebin.com/sbe0fJmq fdisk -l output
[02:53] <rocketfish2> gparted will not acknowledge it while dick utility does
[02:53] <gms> testteed please dont spam me.
[02:53] <dr_willis> rocketfish2: from that out put - the device is not being seen at all..
[02:53] <rocketfish2> gparted will not acknowledge it while dick utility does dr_willis
[02:53] <rocketfish2> disk^
[02:53] <hugenumbers> haha
[02:53] <rocketfish2> dr_willis: i can plug a flash drive into it and have total access of the flash drive without trouble
[02:54] <dr_willis> somthing weird with that HD/controller/cable/usb port -- perhaps..
[02:54] <Farnaby> dr_willis its looking like you might have been right calling network boogeymen. I checked the physical aspects of the lan and they were all fine, the girlfriend calls, I come back and now things are running much smoother.
[02:54] <dr_willis> Farnaby:  gremlins.. :)
[02:54] <rocketfish2> dr_willis: the hard drive works fine under windows and mac
[02:54] <acerimmer> Farnaby: girlfriend hack
[02:54] <Farnaby> gotta love em. They were some long lasting gremlins though, close to 10 hours worth
[02:55] <Farnaby> stupid comcast
[02:55] <dr_willis> rocketfish2:  test with a live cd/differnt disrto perhaps. fdisk -l should be showing it  - if the system sees it.
[02:55] <Farnaby> and acerimmer with her I wouldn't be surprised.... she has a touch of death when it comes to technology
[02:55] <dr_willis> rocketfish2:  or linux saw some error/issue and disconected the device
[02:55] <rocketfish2> i did, same issue i tried 11.04 , then upgraded (compelte wipe and install) to 11.10 , then opensuse 12.1 live CD, all failed
[02:56] <rocketfish2> dr_willis:
[02:56] <dr_willis> rocketfish2:  a unplug/plug in, and check of dmesg, and fdisk -l. might show it... if it then vanishes.. well  thats a clue at least.
[02:56] <Farnaby> I need to mess around with a livecd of 11.10 and see whether I actually like unity or not
[02:56] <rocketfish2> i was a 11.04 user earlier today
[02:56] <rocketfish2> dr_willis:
[02:56] <dr_willis> rocketfish2:  also you may want to test with a totally differnt disrto like TinyCoreLinux - see if that detects it properly.
[02:56] <Farnaby> lol and now FF is back to running slow
[02:57] <Farnaby> whatever I guess, its not a problem to be solved tonight
[02:57] <rocketfish2> only once after a freeze and then a reboot of setting the usb delay_use to 5 did it almost show up in the file manager ... i set it to 10 after that, and then backl to 5 and it seems to have been a fluke dr_willis
[02:58] <yeats> rocketfish2: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1782546 may have some helpful suggestions
[02:58] <rocketfish2> why tiny core ? i burned and ran a live DVD of opensuse because a forum some place had a psot that said opensuse did not have that issue.. dr_willis
[02:58] <dr_willis> rocketfish2:  because tinycore is 10mb download..
[02:58] <dr_willis> :)
[02:59] <dr_willis> if suse worked.. but ubuntu not - points to some driver/kernel/issue then.
[02:59] <rocketfish2> thanks dr_willis, this will be the 4~5 time i have read thgat same page
[02:59] <dr_willis> so its being narrowed down to ubuntu specific issues..
[03:00] <rocketfish2> nice dr_willis
[03:00] <dr_willis> another 'test' would be to see if the 12.x alpha has the same issue. if so - definatly file a bug report on it.  So hopefully it will get looked into and fixed in the next rlease
[03:01] <rocketfish2> well thanks dr_willis... you seem as lost of every other person who attempted to resolve this oddity.   and no opensuse failed as well while windows and mac os x have no troubles
[03:01] <yeats> !attitude | rocketfish2
[03:01] <dr_willis> If suse failed = that would point to a kernel issue/driver bugs.
[03:01] <rocketfish2> perhaps i will switch to windows for a while
[03:01] <dr_willis> which is beyond the fixing of most people.
[03:02] <cheese1756> Hi. Does anyone have any experience using Ubuntu and LMMS with a MIDI keyboard?
[03:02] <rocketfish2> hay yeats, lay off, i said nothing offencive :[
[03:02] <cheese1756> In this case, an Akai MPK61
[03:02] <dr_willis> So testing with 12.x may still be worth while. to see if the isue has been fised in a newer kenel
[03:02] <dr_willis> assuming its a kernel issue
[03:02] <rocketfish2> dr_willis: , well, i could b urn another live CD, i have almost ten now :D
[03:03] <dr_willis> i got a stack of perhaps 300 from over the years rocketfish2
[03:03] <dr_willis> I tend to use usb flash drives these days
[03:03] <kalgecin> dr_willis, +1
[03:03] <dr_willis> set up grub2 on a flash to boot iso files.. makes it a lot easier.
[03:04] <rocketfish2> dr_willis:  what can you make of the suggested alteration of 80-udisks.rules . i was not willing to take a forum post at face value and risk dammaging my linux..
[03:05] <dr_willis> rocketfish2:  when in doubt.. backup the file you are changeing.  It is weurd that the disk utuity is seeing the device. but fdisk is not. it could be  one is waiting longer for the device to get ready.
[03:05] <rocketfish2> the only flash drive i have is set up to restore grub for me :)
[03:05] <dr_willis> rocketfish2:  could try it and see is all i can suggest.
[03:05] <rocketfish2> dr_willis:
[03:05] <Kimble> I got a pm spam from "testteed" the minute I joined this channel???
[03:06] <dr_willis> the 'disk utilty' tool can mount drives cant it? i dont recall ever using it.
[03:06] <Farnaby> Is there a dedicated backup utility baked into unity?
[03:06] <dr_willis> Farnaby:  not really.
[03:06] <Kimble> Anyway, anyone willing to help me troubleshoot my NFS setup?
[03:06] <yeats> Kimble: ask away
[03:06] <rocketfish2> dr_willis: well, i have taken on linux troubles before and foun d myself spending weeks trouble shooting relentlessly. i am n ot so determind any more... my other project is getting osx86 installed on this machine.
[03:07] <Farnaby> thats kinda wat I figured.... thats something that I know is stopping some people from thinking different and leaving OSX (even though I know two people who don't even use time machine despite advocating its benefits)
[03:07] <rocketfish2> dr_willis:  the disk utility sees it and the 2 card readers it has. it rteports the drive empty and when i attempt to partition it, it reports that it does not exist
[03:07] <Kimble> Thanks yeats .  I've installed all packages just minutes ago, and prepared a /etc/exports file.  NFSd is running. Am I missing anything?
[03:08] <Farnaby> rocketfish2 thats a good attitude. So long as I have one computer that is running more or less flawlessly I don't stress the details too much about the other ones. Not worth losing sleep over.
[03:08] <dr_willis> rocketfish2:  i wonder if thers not some deeper issues that windows and osx are just overlooking/not reporitng  when they see the empty disk. You could try partionong it from osx - i THINK osx has tools to make linux parititons
[03:08] <Kimble> the export file contains one line: /home/user/folder <ip-range>(options)
[03:09] <rocketfish2> Farnaby: yeah. i have windows 7 and linux on the hard drive and i am working on mac os x on the rocketfish. so far it installs, starts booring, then fails and retarts..
[03:09] <yeats> Kimble: it should be as simple as restarting nfs-kernel-server and mounting on the clients?
[03:09] <Farnaby> dr_willis its supposed to but I never tried it myself
[03:09] <rocketfish2> Farnaby: so long as one of them do what i require, i trust linux the most though. windows the least, its only there to run somehting once in a while to save time
[03:10] <dr_willis> ive found it pays to keep things as simple as possible when working with pcs and hard disks. :)
[03:10] <Farnaby> The only reason I have a windows computer is because its my work machine and that requires some tools that only work in XP of all things
[03:10] <rocketfish2> dr_willis:  no, mac os x and windows see the hard drive as it is, partitioned .
[03:10] <Kimble> yeats: that's what I'd hoped. Maybe I'm doing something wrong on the client side. hang on...
[03:10] <dr_willis> rocketfish2:  you said it was empty earlier.. its been partioned by OS-X for a OS-X install?
[03:11] <rocketfish2> dr_willis:  they treat it as if it exists and allow full access to partition and create and distroy data on it.
[03:11] <Farnaby> I have ... 2 old computers running various versions of windows too I guess. They are in a closet somewhere
[03:11] <rocketfish2> dr_willis:  disk utility reprts it empty
[03:11] <[[thufir]]> how do you know which sound driver you use?
[03:11] <Farnaby> rocketfish this is almost sounding like a permission error
[03:11] <rocketfish2> dr_willis: the linux disk utility. mac os x and windows and partition and fully use it
[03:11] <dlentz> [[thufir]], lspci -vv
[03:12] <rocketfish2> and=can^
[03:12] <dr_willis> i wonder what kind of partiton table it has.. and if that might be confuseing things..
[03:13] <dwon> testteed is spamming people who join the channel with "Find movies, music, games, applications and more using IRC"
[03:13] <Farnaby> you still have that pastebin around somewhere rocketfish?
[03:13] <rocketfish2> ok , well its time for me to go, i have spent well over enough time on this problem, thanks dr_willis
[03:13] <Farnaby> dr_willis thats a possibility
[03:13] <rocketfish2> dr_willis: it is a MBR
[03:13] <Kimble> dwon: yeah, I got that too. Can someone chuck him?
[03:13]  * rocketfish2 is gone
[03:13] <dr_willis> fdisk i think does not support the newer partionong table stuff..
[03:13] <[[thufir]]> dlentz: Kernel driver in use: pata_sis  so pata_sis is my sound driver?
[03:13] <Farnaby> Should support a MBR though
[03:14] <dlentz> no, you need yto fin the entry for the audio driver
[03:14] <dr_willis> [[thufir]]:  pata sounds like a hard drive controller to me.
[03:14] <[[thufir]]> yeah, it was in the section on sound.  I'll look again.
[03:14] <dr_willis> and sis is a chipset maker. :)
[03:14] <Geeeeee> can someone please help me, i kind of ruined my computer D:
[03:14] <Kimble> yeats: My Mac fails to find the mount.  Using Disk Utility, I enter the address as follows: nfs://IPaddress/home/user/share
[03:14] <dr_willis> soit could be some odd sis sound card/chipset...
[03:15] <Kimble> yeats: oh, d'oh!  Firewall!  What's the NFS ports?
[03:15] <yeats> Kimble: I don't think I'll be much help with a Mac, sorry ...
[03:15] <[[thufir]]> my bad:  	Kernel modules: snd-intel8x0   sounds more promising.  I paged up too much.  so that's module to probe?
[03:15] <dlentz> yes
[03:15] <Geeeeee> Has anyone figured out a way to fix the overheating problem with 11.10 on laptops?
[03:16] <dr_willis> Geeeeee:  theres known power-saveing bugs in the kernel/latest release. some fix's depend on the exact make laptop.
[03:16] <dr_willis> some laptops dont have issues.
[03:16]  * dr_willis hopes the 12.x release fixs most issues
[03:16] <Farnaby> there is also a kernal fix for some
[03:16] <Geeeeee> Well ubuntu just fried my laptop, and now i can't do anything
[03:17] <dlentz> [[thufir]], are you having an ufio issue?
[03:17] <dlentz> *audio
[03:17] <[[thufir]]> aha.  so if I "sudo modprobe  snd-intel8x0"  and nothing happens, just get prompt again, that means sound driver isn't installed?
[03:17] <kokolu> hello friendsa
[03:17] <[[thufir]]> dlentz: used to have sound, not anymore.  I suspect OS/software
[03:17] <Geeeeee> Do the older versions of ubuntu overheat?
[03:17] <dr_willis> [[thufir]]:  command line common practice.. dont print messages on success :)
[03:18] <cheese1756> Hi kokolu
[03:18] <dlentz> if lspci tolf you the module is loaded, then it isloaded
[03:18] <cheese1756> Geeeeee, Most likely, yes
[03:18] <Geeeeee> Sadface...
[03:18] <dlentz> modprobe returns nothing if it is successful
[03:18] <cheese1756> It's worth a shot to google around, though
[03:18] <Farnaby> Gee, Ihave never had it happen its one of those things thats goignto be hardware/build specefic
[03:18] <za3k> I have xdm installed on ubuntu server (and not much else).  I have a solid-state drive, if that's relevant.  Anyway, when I boot up and log in, my keyboard input is being mirrored between tty1 and my X session.  Any ideas on diagnosing why?
[03:18] <Geeeeee> Well i'm going to go attempt to revive my computer.
[03:18] <dr_willis> Geeeeee:  try the older lts release and see.
[03:18] <[[thufir]]> ah, so returning the prompt indicates success.  I thought it meant failure.  sigh.  Failure would've been useful.
[03:19] <dlentz> [[thufir]], did this happen after an update
[03:19] <dr_willis> you expet it to say 'good golly yes! we got the drivers loaded master!'
[03:19] <dr_willis> :)
[03:19] <[[thufir]]> dlentz: I did update, but it might've happened before that.  I haven't used this box in many moons.
[03:19] <Farnaby> if *nix was that friend dr_willis then more people might use it. People have gotten to used to having their hand held
[03:19] <dr_willis> [[thufir]]:  it may be a simple mixer setting set to muted also.
[03:20] <[[thufir]]> I checked sound preferences via GNOME GUI.  can you be more specific?
[03:20] <dr_willis> Farnaby:  given that the module was most likely allready loaded. :)
[03:20] <dr_willis> !alsa
[03:20] <[[thufir]]> yeah I'm going through that page at the moment.
[03:20] <Farnaby> [[thufir]], I had a problem with alsa on a laptop where the mic was uted and for some reason that killed all sound
[03:21] <dr_willis> I rarely work on sound issues.  I have ntoiced on many machines that use hdmi audio - i have to plug in a rca cable to use the normal sound out. and NOT the hdmi sound.
[03:21] <[[thufir]]> heh.  thx.  I don't think it's that, but I'll look again.  this is a relatively old desktop.
[03:21] <Farnaby> its really just a matter of sound issues seem to be really bizarre things that don't make a ton of sense (to me anyway)
[03:21] <kokolu> please can anyone tell me how to put a password on guest when login? coz if i lock my user account so anyperson can get enter with guest
[03:22] <dr_willis> on this tv "dvi monitor" i had to be sure to use the proper hdmi port to get it to use the right audio input also. :) but thats most likely not your issue
[03:22] <Farnaby> kokolu, you want all accounts including guest to have a password?
[03:22] <Nach0z> kokolu: "passwd guest" or something maybe? dunno why you'd do that
[03:22] <dr_willis> kokolu:  you could just disabke the guest account if you dont want to ise it..
[03:22] <cheese1756> kokolu, You can probably just delete the guest account, too
[03:22] <kokolu> Farnaby:  yes plz
[03:22] <dr_willis> guest account is special. (i never use it) :)
[03:23] <opform249_> i have a networking question...
[03:23]  * [[thufir]] agrees with Farnaby
[03:23] <cheese1756> opform249_, How advanced?
[03:23] <dr_willis> http://askubuntu.com/questions/70169/how-to-disable-the-guest-account-at-the-login-of-ubuntu-11-10
[03:23] <opform249_> i don't know yet...
[03:24] <flowerpot> dr_willis, how is the guest account special?
[03:24] <opform249_> just install Ubuntu 11.10 and my wireless doesn't work
[03:24] <cheese1756> What's your question, opform249_?
[03:24] <cheese1756> Oh
[03:24] <flowerpot> opform249_, probably missing the right drivers
[03:24] <cheese1756> Check if your wireless card is supported
[03:24] <cheese1756> Out of the box
[03:24] <cheese1756> That would be the first step, at least
[03:24] <dlentz> [[thufir]]. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Audio/AlsaInfo
[03:24] <opform249_> that is what I thought to but the "Additional Drivers" section
[03:24] <opform249_> for the Broadcom STA wireless driver is what I am having an issue with i think
[03:25] <kokolu> Farnaby:  how can i add password
[03:25] <opform249_> IF the driver is "active" i don't have ANY wireless options via the network button at the top
[03:25] <dr_willis> flowerpot:  the changes made to its settings are discarded when they log out for one thing
[03:25] <Farnaby> kokolu, checki in system, admin, users there should be an option to do whatever you want to do it. I always disable my guest accounts.
[03:25] <cheese1756> opform249_, Try just disabling and re-enabling wireless in the network manager
[03:26] <cheese1756> See if anything shows up then
[03:26] <flowerpot> dr_willis, but they're just a normal user in the end, right?
[03:26] <dr_willis> flowerpot:  i never use the feature. Its one of those 'features' that keeps getting added/removed/changed in each new release.
[03:26] <flowerpot> dr_willis, when you say they're special, it makes me wonder if Ubuntu has built in some magic that makes them underprivileged in the same way that root has magic that makes them superprivileged
[03:26] <opform249_> good call...be right back...have to find those commands...it's been awhile since I have used linux!
[03:26] <flowerpot> dr_willis, root isn't a normal user; I'm curious if guest isn't a normal user either
[03:26] <Kimble> yeats: yeah, it was the age-old "forgot to open the firewall" issue.  I feel like a plonker :)
[03:27] <cheese1756> opform249_, There's a check box for it
[03:27] <yeats> Kimble: sometimes asking other people helps you find the solution ;-)
[03:27] <cheese1756> Just click network manager and look towards the bottom
[03:27] <HeavyMetal> hi theholder
[03:27] <opform249_> oh and when i do a ifconfig...i don't have any "Wlan"...
[03:27] <Kimble> yeats: certainly did this time :)  Well ta for being my "sounding-board".
[03:27] <cheese1756> opform249_, That helps isolate the issue
[03:27] <[[thufir]]> my also info:   http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=8a877bbadbbe357ff878b19f6b48dc820af752fa
[03:27] <dr_willis> flowerpot:  http://askubuntu.com/questions/98925/customize-guest-account   has some info
[03:28] <Farnaby> flowerpot, one of the things that make guest accounts "special" is that ubuntu normally has a security problem with guest accounts somewhere
[03:28] <blackarchan> hey ppla what app do youy use for ISO?? like daemon tools on windows?
[03:28] <kokolu> Farnaby:  how can i disable it plz
[03:28] <yeats> opform249_: try 'sudo apt-get install bcmwl-kernel-source' and restarting
[03:28] <wjp2> 有人吗？
[03:28] <flowerpot> Farnaby, what's the security problem?
[03:29] <flowerpot> dr_willis, thanks for the link
[03:29] <yeats> !cn | wjp2
[03:29] <[[thufir]]> dlentz: http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=8a877bbadbbe357ff878b19f6b48dc820af752fa
[03:29] <sec_> hi
[03:29] <Farnaby> Kokolu, what version?
[03:29] <rodayo> Kinda unrelated question but maybe someone will know the answer. What library do i need to link with in order to use getcwd() and the likes? (From unistd.h)
[03:29] <kokolu> Farnaby:  11.10
[03:29] <sec_> !kr
[03:29] <Farnaby> flowerpot, I know there was an exploit that would allow the guest to run as root
[03:30] <Farnaby> kokolu, http://linuxbsdos.com/ask/2011/10/disable-guest-account-in-ubuntu-11-10/
[03:30] <dr_willis> blackarchan:  you can mount an iso file with  the mount command or other tools. it will appear as a normal folder. Not a special cd drive.
[03:30] <dr_willis> !iso | blackarchan
[03:30] <flowerpot> kokolu, you can also remove users in general using useradd.  think you'll have to use groupdel to get rid of the group, too
[03:30] <wjp2> hello
[03:30] <phong_> hi
[03:30] <sec_> hi
[03:31] <blackarchan> dr_willis ubottu tnx for the iso
[03:31] <Farnaby> Dunno if they ever came up with a way around it or not, I haven't played with 11.10
[03:31] <flowerpot> Farnaby, that seems pretty serious
[03:31] <blackarchan> ino*
[03:31] <sec_> phong_: how ur ?
[03:31] <sec_> ip
[03:31] <dr_willis> !info gmountiso
[03:31] <[[thufir]]> I added snd-intel8x0 to /etc/modules  to try and fix sound.
[03:31] <phong_> sec_, good
[03:32] <phong_> sec_, will you show me some trick fro linux?
[03:32] <phong_> lol
[03:32] <Farnaby> the one that I am thinking of specefically with regards to that was back around ... 8.10 I think? I assume they improved it
[03:32] <dr_willis> 3 yrs old.. id imagine so. :)
[03:32] <Farnaby> One would hope ;)
[03:32] <dr_willis> and we are now using lightdm. not the old gdm.
[03:32] <dlentz> [[thufir]], i don't see anything that catches my attention, nut i'm not a guru at this stuff
[03:33] <Farnaby> Speaking of lightdm kokolu http://shuffleos.com/3614/how-to-disable-guest-session-in-ubuntu-11-10-oneiric-ocelot/
[03:33] <[[thufir]]> I'm htinking it's gotta be a configuration as to why I don't have sound.
[03:33] <[[thufir]]> dlentz: thanks for looking.
[03:33] <Farnaby> [[thufir]], the mystersy of alsa
[03:33] <[[thufir]]> lol
[03:33] <kokolu> Farnaby:  can u tell me what to do coz i am newbie on this plz
[03:34] <Farnaby> Follow this like kokolu and it should be a pretty easy step by step: http://shuffleos.com/3614/how-to-disable-guest-session-in-ubuntu-11-10-oneiric-ocelot/
[03:34] <[[thufir]]> all these settings in the sound applets, etc, those must be in a text file, right?
[03:34] <Farnaby> [[thufir]], somewhere probably.... whether its an inteilligible textfile is a seperate question
[03:34] <dlentz> [[thufir]], have you tried playing a sound file with aplay command?
[03:35] <[[thufir]]> aplay /usr/share/sounds/alsa/Front_Center.wav as many users.  plus, audio and multimedia files I know which've played before
[03:35] <phong_> ubuntu is way faster then mac os x
[03:35] <dlentz> so that doesn't work?
[03:36] <[[thufir]]> nope.
[03:36] <dlentz> does it give an error
[03:36] <[[thufir]]> nope.
[03:37] <dlentz> have you tried headphones?
[03:38] <[[thufir]]> could it be a hardware error?  very old system.  yes, tried headphones.  no "static"(?) or other noise when they connect, either.  that little noise you hear when they complete the circuit.
[03:38] <Farnaby> actually thats a good point. Try taking compressedair tot eh headphone jack first though.  I want to be to connect to my home ubuntu computer and have it go through a SSH tunnel to another ubuntu computer, then from there to a computer that it has access to
[03:39] <Farnaby> clean it [[thufir]] ! Can't hurt anyway
[03:39] <[[thufir]]> five plus years.  it sat unused for about six months.  then, I upgraded a bit.  I can't recall wen the sound broke, but when I put it away it worked.
[03:39] <[[thufir]]> Farnaby: yeah, maybe.
[03:40] <almoxarife> pnorman: let me guess, you want to exit back out to the internet to the last computer?
[03:40] <[[thufir]]> I find it encouraging that now there's static when plugged/unplugged.  maybe just because I maxed the speakers, tho, and it was doing that before.  hmm.
[03:41] <r0b-> how do i disable gnome and use kde?
[03:41] <almoxarife> r0b-: install kde
[03:41] <za3k> So this will be the last time I ask, but I'm having a problem with mirrored input using ubuntu server + xdm.  Can someone suggest where I could research or if another group might better be able to help?
[03:41] <r0b-> i instaleld kde
[03:41] <pnorman> almoxarife: no - i want to access a computer that can only be accessed if you're on the same LAN
[03:41] <Farnaby> or kubuntu
[03:41] <r0b-> but it wont let me switch
[03:41] <almoxarife> r0b-: login to kde
[03:42] <indystorm> Question for anyone who knows. I am using ubuntu with KDE installed--- I am trying to access kcontrol and it seems that it is not available. Any idea how I can install  and run it? I am on ubuntu server 10.04
[03:42] <[[thufir]]> ok, well, it's the speakers.  sorry about all that. headphones work now.  maybe something I did?  oddness
[03:42] <r0b-> guess i install kubuntu
[03:42] <r0b-> ty
[03:42] <almoxarife> pnorman: got it, you control the firewall/s?
[03:42] <Geeeeee> Can someone please help me, i've completely ruined my computer hahaha
[03:42] <Farnaby> I was about to tell r0b but he dropped....
[03:42] <dlentz> [[thufir]], the plot thickens..
[03:43] <Farnaby> Geeeeee, whats wrong?
[03:43] <pnorman> almoxarife: no
[03:43] <Geeeeee> I installed ubuntuwith windows 7, like a dual boot and not it's stuffed up my windows 7 and it won't even load.
[03:43] <Geeeeee> now*
[03:43] <Farnaby> [[thufir]], thats almost as good as a dirty jack
[03:43] <almoxarife> pnorman: guess that answers your question
[03:43] <dlentz> the speakers may be okay
[03:43] <pnorman> almoxarife: Also, I have root access on the local machine and not the machine behind the firewall. Non-standard ports are blocked by the firewall, but SSH is let through
[03:43] <Farnaby> is it spitting any errors or anything Geeeeee?
[03:44]  * [[thufir]] agrees with dlentz
[03:44] <dlentz> it could be that the amp is not kicking on for some reason
[03:44] <Geeeeee> nope, the loading screen just kind of like glitches the "Starting windows" screen kind of lags alot!
[03:44] <Farnaby> Is the amp on?
[03:44] <black> j #aiccu
[03:44] <urlin2u> Geeeeee, you install from windows?
[03:45] <Farnaby> Geeeeee,  are you given any options about what to load up?
[03:45] <opform249> well cheese that didn't work...
[03:45] <black> any idea why aicci loads before dhclient? which causes it to not properly load?
[03:45] <almoxarife> pnorman: you dont control the firewall to me means you are doing an evil doer act, cant help the evild doers
[03:45] <Geeeeee> yes i did urlin, and it says start windows normally or launch something, but neither ofthem work
[03:46] <tjf> Is it possible to upgrade from 9.04 to 10.04?
[03:46] <urlin2u> Geeeeee, you getting the MS boot with ubuntu added?
[03:46] <tjf> or do I have to do 9.04 -> 9.10 -> 10.04?
[03:46] <Geeeeee> MS Boot?
[03:46] <za3k> Bye then.  Thanks!
[03:46] <urlin2u> Geeeeee, boot menu?
[03:46] <sean1_> I have ubuntu 11.10, nvidia graphics, clean install, hanging at boot, Anyone have a clue. I think it is loading nouveau instead of nvidia
[03:46] <Farnaby> Geeeeee, can you get into windows safe mode?
[03:46] <Geeeeee> Yeah comes up "Windows 7" "Ubuntu" and i can choose either one
[03:46] <Geeeeee> no i can't.
[03:47] <Alicia> can somebody tell me what the syntax is to SSH to a different port.
[03:47] <black> ssh -
[03:47] <black> ssh -P
[03:47] <Farnaby> Sounds like the MBR might be pointing in the wrong directions. Not the easiest thing to fix
[03:47] <urlin2u> Geeeeee, are you familiar with what a grub menu look like?
[03:47] <black> no idea why aiccu would load before dhclient?
[03:47] <pnorman> almoxarife: I'm not trying to do anything evil. I could use the VPN, but it uses a propritary non-standard setup and I would have to send *all* my traffic through the VPN
[03:47] <[[thufir]]> ok, I'm googling without good results.  assuming speakers are functional, why will only headphones work?
[03:47] <urlin2u> Farnaby, not true easy fix.
[03:47] <sean1_> Can anyone help
[03:47] <dlentz> jack sensing is not working?
[03:48] <Farnaby> urlin2u, not if you don't know what an MBR is
[03:48] <Geeeeee> If i open Ubuntu up though, my cpu goes up to 90Degress + and i'm worried it fried my computer.
[03:48] <almoxarife> pnorman: there you go, you can use the vpn
[03:48] <black> 90D F isnt high
[03:48] <tjf> Geeeeee, 90f or 90c?
[03:48] <flowerpot> [[thufir]], I had that problem.  It resolved itself but I don't know why.
[03:48] <Geeeeee> c
[03:48] <tjf> 90f is nothing
[03:48] <black> 130+ is something to worry about
[03:48] <flowerpot> [[thufir]], have you tried rebooting just to see if that helps?
[03:48] <pnorman> almoxarife: Not without sending all of my traffic through it
[03:48] <rypervenche> Alicia: ssh -p
[03:48] <black> get a larger cooling fan.
[03:48] <afner> Hi People
[03:48] <Geeeeee> I've tried multiple times, but nothings working.
[03:48] <sean1_> I tried this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1876236#post11432398
[03:49] <almoxarife> pnorman: got it, you control the firewall/s?
[03:49] <tjf> 90c is getting dangerous, most CPUs shut down around that point, iirc.
[03:49] <[[thufir]]> flowerpot: well, this started ~6 boots ago, so I'll reboot tomorrow.  I can't imagine what the difference is, although I did re-install a bunch of sound stuff.
[03:49] <sean1_> but the 2 echo commands give errors
[03:49] <urlin2u> Geeeeee, so a install from windows is called a wubi it still uses the windows boot menu some times the ubuntu grub bootloader get installed in the mbr with updates can we confirm whether it is a grub menu you see or a windows boot menu?
[03:49] <black> so no idea on why aiccu loads before dhclient?
[03:49] <pnorman> almoxarife: I can get them changed if needed, but opening up this machine to the general public isn't an option - it has to be secured
[03:49] <Farnaby> black no clue mate
[03:50] <Geeeeee> it's a windows boot menu.
[03:50] <pnorman> (this machine = the machine I want to connect to in the end)
[03:50] <almoxarife> pnorman: 'this' is which?
[03:50] <Farnaby> Geeeeee, can you boot from CD?
[03:50] <urlin2u> Geeeeee, cool did you resize windows at any point in this you would not need to with a install from windows?
[03:51] <almoxarife> pnorman: 'this' is a ubuntu?
[03:51] <black> anyone wanna check my crontab script to see whats wrong with it?
[03:51] <Mayank> Hi I am running a live cd and trying to mount my wubi install by this - mount -o loop /media/win/ubuntu/disks/root.disk /mnt/ . Everytime I run this command I get a Segmentation Fault error,  are their anyalternatives to mount the wubinstall and edit a file through the live-cd/usb
[03:51] <Geeeeee> I'm not sure what a boot from CD is, and im not sure urlin.
[03:51] <pnorman> almoxarife: using machine names, I want to connect to merry and have it send the data through a ssh tunnel to hyper and then have it go from hyper to blip
[03:51] <urlin2u> Mayank, you yet post at the ubunru forums?
[03:51] <cheese1756> Hello. I'm getting a bug in Ubuntu that I also got with Slackware. When I try to use my wireless connection, the connection fails. When I run dmesg it says, "wlan0: no IPv6 routers present"
[03:51] <urlin2u> ubuntu*
[03:51] <Farnaby> Geeeeee, if you put a liveCD in can you boot that.
[03:52] <cheese1756> I use IPv4, so that shouldn't be a problem
[03:52] <cheese1756> Wireless worked just fine during my install
[03:52] <pnorman> merry and hyper are running ubuntu, no clue what blip is running
[03:52] <Geeeeee> Does need a specific thing on it? or can it be anything on the cd?
[03:52] <urlin2u> Mayank, your wubi is a file in windows.
[03:52] <Farnaby> cheese1756, disable IPV6. SHould be in network settings
[03:52] <almoxarife> pnorman: which firewalls do you control, ie. pre-merry etc
[03:52] <cheese1756> Farnaby, Thanks
[03:53] <Mayank> urlin2u: yes, I thought its not *that* irrelevant to try it out here. I basically want to mount it on the live cd and edit the ext2 disk image. any leads to do that?
[03:53] <Geeeeee> okay i have my laptop here now, ill turn it on and tell you everything i see.
[03:53] <urlin2u> Geeeeee, do y=this run this script and pastebin the results.txt it will tell us the what is where including the boot loader in the mbr.  http://bootinfoscript.sourceforge.net/
[03:53] <Farnaby> Geeeeee, do you have the CD that you installed ubuntu off of still? that would be a liveCD. Or did you not use a cd?
[03:53] <pnorman> almoxarife: I have complete control over merry and the connection between where I'm connecting from and merry. merry to hyper is over the internet and I can get the firewall there changed.
[03:53] <Geeeeee> Thermal shutdow occurred.
[03:53] <Geeeeee> thats what it has atm
[03:54] <Farnaby> cheese1756, no problem
[03:54] <Geeeeee> Launch startup Repair?
[03:54] <almoxarife> wubi is usually two files, disk and swap
[03:54] <urlin2u> Mayank, not really wubi is not used by many here post in the wubi megathread at the ubuntu forums if you can.
[03:54] <Geeeeee> OMG ITS WORKING I THINK!
[03:54] <skraps> anyone had a problem with firefox 9 crashing when loading gmail?
[03:54] <Mayank> urlin2u: Hmm! Thanks yet again! :)
[03:54] <skraps> I just downloaded and installed the new firefox, running 11.10
[03:55] <urlin2u> Mayank, np.
[03:55] <Farnaby> for now. Thermal shutdown sounds a little too close to thermal detonater for my tastes....
[03:55] <hydrox24> skraps: try running it from the command line if you are knowledgable enough to decode errors
[03:55] <tjk> how can I turn the side bar into a macosx style bottom bar?
[03:55] <cheese1756> Farnaby, Still no luck
[03:55] <hydrox24> skraps: if not, then please use the firefox channel/forums
[03:55] <urlin2u> Farnaby, lol yeah. :D
[03:55] <Geeeeee> It's restoring my windows at the moment.
[03:55] <Geeeeee> i think i've fixed it, im not sure.
[03:55] <skraps> hydrox24: I did a strace and its dies while loading the theme so I swapped themes and its still the same
[03:55] <pnorman> I tried ssh -f -L 1234:blip:1234 pnorman@hyper -N and connecting to hyper on port 1234, but it didn't work and I'm trying to figure out where it failed
[03:55] <hydrox24> tjk: Unity is still in it's earliest stages and thus not very customizable. try a third-party dock like cairo dock
[03:55] <urlin2u> Geeeeee, you had nothing to save right you will not have ubuntu if it is a recovery.
[03:56] <Farnaby> cheese1756, you might have to restart,easiest way of restarting that stuff
[03:56] <Geeeeee> nope, nothings on it that isn't on my external hd
[03:56] <tjk> hydrox24: can I apt-get cairo? or do I download it a different way?
[03:56] <opform249> so i need some help with getting my wireless to work. :(
[03:56] <hydrox24> pnorman: I am assuming you have installed openssh-server on the computer you are trying to install to
[03:56] <cheese1756> Sure, I'll give it a shot Farnaby
[03:56] <Farnaby> thats smart thinking Geeeeee
[03:56] <hydrox24> tjk: apt-get install cairo-dock
[03:56] <hydrox24> [
[03:56] <veritos> Does there exist a Debian formatted package for Flash on 64 bit? The nspluginwrapper dance with the 32 bit plugin is making Pandora not work. This is 11.10.
[03:56] <Geeeeee> I still need to figure out why ubuntu is overheating my cpu thought :/
[03:56] <tjk> thank you
[03:56] <urlin2u> Geeeeee, cool that is the way I role.
[03:57] <hydrox24> Geeeeee: have you looked into the ACPI compatibility with your computer?
[03:57] <hydrox24> tjk: no prob
[03:57] <Geeeeee> No hydro, how do i do that.
[03:57] <pnorman> hydrox24: Ya, it's installed
[03:58] <hydrox24> Geeeeee: google the issue
[03:58] <hydrox24> Geeeeee: what laptop/desktop do you have
[03:58] <Geeeeee> hydrox24: i will thanks :)
[03:58] <almoxarife> pnorman: ssh > merry > firewall pre-hyper(open some port for ssh) > iptables to exclude all except merry > inside localnet
[03:58] <Geeeeee> hydrox24: a hp.
[03:58] <evoandroidevo> is there any resone why in the installer that i dont get an option to install side byside with windows
[03:58] <Geeeeee> hydrox24: pavilion dv6.
[03:59] <Farnaby> cheese1756, any luck?
[03:59] <tjk> hydrox24: this is awesome! Can you recommend a website or forum that deals with Ubuntu desktop customization? I'd like to learn more.
[03:59] <pnorman> almoxarife: that's what i'm trying to do - when you say iptables to exclude all except merry, do you mean on the firewall? it's set to allow anyone to be able to use ssh (assuming they have somewhere to connect to)
[04:00] <Geeeeee> Farnaby: windows is running good now :)
[04:00] <almoxarife> pnorman: if you can exclude at the hardware firewall thats even better
[04:00] <urlin2u> evoandroidevo, you boooted the cd?
[04:00] <Farnaby> Thats half the battle Geeeeee next up is to et *nix running! ;)
[04:00] <tjf> For some reason, my computer (running Ubuntu server) won't connect to the internet, even over ethernet. It worked on Windows, and it works on my laptop...
[04:00] <hydrox24> tjk: not a specific one no, but keep in mind that ubuntu is ridiculously customizable compared to windows/mac
[04:01] <Geeeeee> Farnaby: yes i'll have to figure out how to fix the overheating problem :/
[04:01] <almoxarife> pnorman: and since you are paranoid , iptable hyper anyway, redundant is good
[04:01] <evoandroidevo> Farnaby USB yea on it right now
[04:01] <cheese1756> Farnaby, Now Ubuntu itself is freezing
[04:01] <cheese1756> I had a similar issue in Windows
[04:01] <Geeeeee> hydrox24: how do i find out if the ACPI power thingo is compatible with my laptop?
[04:01] <pnorman> almoxarife: I'm just trying to figure out the command that I need to run on merry to set it up
[04:01] <cheese1756> Probably a hardware problem, but I have no idea how to isolate it
[04:02] <cheese1756> All I know is that it's not the RAM
[04:02] <cheese1756> It will get to the login screen or sooner, then just freeze completely
[04:02] <cheese1756> Windows would bluescreen
[04:02] <evoandroidevo> my bad wrong person urlin2u Yea useing usb
[04:02] <tjk> hydrox24: no problem. Thanks again for the dock recommendation.
[04:02] <cheese1756> I thought it was an NVIDIA driver problem, but I guess not
[04:03] <phong_> hi cheese1756
[04:03] <cheese1756> Hey phong_
[04:03] <Farnaby> Geeeeee, google your make and model with ubuntu
[04:03] <Farnaby> cheese1756, that makes no sense...
[04:03] <tjk> Can anyone else in the channel recommend a good forum/site that deals with ubuntu desktop customization exclusively?
[04:03] <cheese1756> Farnaby, Two separate issues
[04:03] <phong_> licking cheese1756
[04:03] <cheese1756> Not related to the wireless
[04:03] <urlin2u> evoandroidevo, open a terminal and run sudo fdisk -lu and pastebin the output
[04:03] <almoxarife> pnorman: i use gufw, so i cant tell you the iptables version, gufw is a gui for ufw  the firewall that uses iptables
[04:03] <Farnaby> cheese1756, ahhh you had me worried. I was racking my brain as to how ipv6 could cause that
[04:03] <urlin2u> !pastebin | evoandroidevo
[04:04] <pnorman> almoxarife: I don't need the iptables stuff, I need the ssh stuff. I can already ssh in to hyper from merry, it's the tunneling I need to do
[04:05] <Josh|KilljoyX23> I have Ubuntu installed with Wubi, with a small amount of space partioned for it. how do i check Ubuntu to see what i have to work with?
[04:06] <evoandroidevo> mhm yea so is there a resone y its not showing the option
[04:06] <urlin2u> evoandroidevo, of that command? can you run it?
[04:06] <pnorman> With ssh -L does it only accept connections from localhost?
[04:06] <Farnaby> ungh and now for some reason my RDP session keeps dropping. Thats annoying
[04:07] <almoxarife> pnorman: no idea, thats why i have a firewall to only accept from to blah blah
[04:08] <evoandroidevo> what screen shot shortcut?
[04:08] <urlin2u> Josh|KilljoyX23, how big did yuo make it ubuntu is about 3 gigs installed.
[04:08] <mikefmail> When selecting a number of files to play in smplayer I have to drag the window up to load the files by way of accessing the "open" dialogue button. Has anyone got any idea of how I can remedy this please.
[04:09] <Josh|KilljoyX23> mmm...on the installer, i believe it went up to 30g, but i believe it was default 18g. I just dont know how to check how much space i have left. Disk space i mean
[04:09] <urlin2u> Josh|KilljoyX23, check in windows ubuntu ias just a file there.
[04:09] <urlin2u> is*
[04:09] <Josh|KilljoyX23> oh okay. is there a way to expand the space without reinstalling wubi?
[04:09] <urlin2u> Josh|KilljoyX23, I assume you mean the HD disc space here.
[04:09] <Josh|KilljoyX23> or erm...ubuntu
[04:10] <Josh|KilljoyX23> yes
[04:10] <Farnaby> ungh I need a beer
[04:11] <urlin2u> Josh|KilljoyX23, disk utility in ubuntu will tell you the size
[04:11] <Josh|KilljoyX23> ah perfect. thank you
[04:11] <evoandroidevo> what screen shot shortcut?
[04:11] <cheese1756> Print screen
[04:12] <urlin2u> evoandroidevo, you see the command for the terminal that will give you text, that can be copied and pasted to a pastebin?
[04:12] <dr_willis> Josh|KilljoyX23:  theres ways to resize the wubi disk file from what i recall.. but i hate wubi so reccomend doing a normal install. :)
[04:12] <hydrox24> evoandroidevo: specifically, on your keyboard
[04:12] <Josh|KilljoyX23> id like to do a normal install. I'm new to linux, and thus my life is on windows so i can't get rid of it just yet.
[04:13] <Josh|KilljoyX23> so far, Ubuntu trumps Win7 :)
[04:13] <black> if [[ "$IP" < "0" ]] whats wrong with that?
[04:13] <opform249> have you tried the dev version of win 8
[04:13] <urlin2u> Josh|KilljoyX23, you can transfer the wubi to a partition if you want and have the room.
[04:13] <hydrox24> Josh|KilljoyX23: glad to hear it!
[04:13] <hydrox24> Josh|KilljoyX23: so are you looking for instruction for how to do a normal install?
[04:14] <evoandroidevo> http://imagebin.org/195982
[04:14] <Josh|KilljoyX23> Would i still be able to dual boot with Windows?
[04:15] <evoandroidevo> why there no leting me install side by side is what im asking i have a 200gb hard drive
[04:15] <urlin2u> evoandroidevo, okay we need to see what is on the hard drive now as far as how many partitions, so do the screen shot again but using the gparted partitioner it is on the live cd.
[04:16] <evoandroidevo> ok
[04:16] <urlin2u> evoandroidevo, several possible reasons why that is why the HD info is important
[04:17] <dr_willis> black:  you are expecting a negtive number for an ip address?
[04:18] <evoandroidevo> http://imagebin.org/195983
[04:18] <hydrox24> Josh|KilljoyX23: sure
[04:18] <hydrox24> Josh|KilljoyX23: that's how I operate
[04:18]  * Farnaby afk
[04:19] <Josh|KilljoyX23> i have a 500g hd, i believe ~250g empty. Would that be enough
[04:19] <dr_willis> Josh|KilljoyX23:  i  got a full ubuntu install on a 16gb flash drive. :)
[04:19] <Josh|KilljoyX23> spent too much money on all the other parts :)
[04:20] <evoandroidevo> dr_willis like not live boot but actully installed on the flash drive?
[04:20] <dr_willis> evoandroidevo:  yes. a full normal install
[04:20] <urlin2u> evoandroidevo, you just need to shrink W7 with its partitioner but first run a chkdsk, and defragg ubuntu is not reading it so it needs a bit of help first, and back it up before shrinking and installing ubuntu.
[04:20] <Josh|KilljoyX23> If i have space to put wow on ubuntu ill be a happy camper xD
[04:20] <dr_willis> i can 'dd' it to a new machine if i want to clone my setup :)
[04:20] <evoandroidevo> how did u do that
[04:20] <hydrox24> Josh|KilljoyX23: more than enough!
[04:20] <hydrox24> wow?
[04:20] <dr_willis> evoandroidevo:  installed like i would to a normal hard drive.
[04:20] <hydrox24> Josh|KilljoyX23: do you plan to tun it under WINE?
[04:21] <Josh|KilljoyX23> i dont know anything about WINE
[04:21] <dr_willis> Josh|KilljoyX23:  if WoW is your main goal.. you may want to stick to playing it in windows.
[04:21] <urlin2u> evoandroidevo, that all make sense to you?
[04:21] <dr_willis> Josh|KilljoyX23:  it can work with wine.. but  can be tricky or slower.
[04:21] <artichoku> question about dual-booting
[04:22] <evoandroidevo> urlin2u how do i chkdsk i tryed doing that on ubuntu and didnt work
[04:22] <Josh|KilljoyX23> not main goal, but nice to not swap back and forth. would a full install run cleaner than wubi
[04:22] <urlin2u> evoandroidevo, not on ubuntu windows, ubuntu is a different does not use chkdsk.
[04:22] <hydrox24> Josh|KilljoyX23: I've never used wubi, but it's like a virtual machine yes?
[04:22] <artichoku> i just did a clean install of backtrack 5 using entire disk, but i want to dual boot ubuntu. what install options do i need to choose when installing ubuntu so that backtrack stays intact?
[04:22] <dr_willis> Josh|KilljoyX23:  wubi is a pain. i would get away from it as soon as possible.
[04:23] <urlin2u> evoandroidevo, chkdsk windows.
[04:23] <evoandroidevo> oh ok
[04:23] <Josh|KilljoyX23> it boots from Bios, the only experience with a VM is booted into windows
[04:23] <evoandroidevo> well ill be back then
[04:23] <Josh|KilljoyX23> my only experience**
[04:23] <Geeeeee> Farnaby: Dude, how do i find out weather or not ubuntu is compatible with my laptop, i found a site but there are so many HP Pavilion DV6 models i'm not sure which is mine haha
[04:23] <dr_willis> artichoku:  customize the disk layout, resize the existing instll. make a / partition for ubuntu  the 2 can share swap partition IF you dont use hibernate/suspend.
[04:24] <urlin2u> evoandroidevo, cool chkdsk it and defragg it and shrink it with the windows partitioner a leaving a unallocated space for ubuntu to format and install to.
[04:24] <dr_willis> artichoku:  i dont see much point in dual booting Ubuntu and backtrack really.... dont see mich point in backtrack for most people that come in here asking about it either. :)
[04:24] <sharkmap> just got ubuntu 10.04 running on my 10 year old sony vaio laptop.
[04:24] <Josh|KilljoyX23> im learning ubuntu because backtrack 5 kicked my butt
[04:24] <Josh|KilljoyX23> :)
[04:24] <Geeeeee> sharkmap: is it overheating.
[04:25] <artichoku> i've never did custom partitioning, and because i don't want to run backtrack off a live disk anymore
[04:25] <urlin2u> Josh|KilljoyX23, back track is for tumbs not hard drives.
[04:25] <urlin2u> thumbs
[04:25] <Josh|KilljoyX23> i have it on VM
[04:25] <sharkmap> no. temp is pretty cool. cooler than when it ran xp
[04:25] <dr_willis> backtrack and ubuntu are still linux at the core.. learn the fundamentals.. and it wont matter. :)
[04:25] <hydrox24> Josh|KilljoyX23: I'm not sure if doing a normal install is better than wubi, but I am happy to help with the normal install
[04:25] <urlin2u> Josh|KilljoyX23, even worse.
[04:25] <Geeeeee> Cheers, i might give 10.4 ago.
[04:26] <sharkmap> ive had it going for the last 6 hours
[04:26] <dr_willis> I see way to many people 'using back track' when they have no  real need for the features/reasons it exists.. :)
[04:26] <artichoku> dr_willis, i want the ubuntu eye candy. they're both technically ubuntu
[04:26] <Josh|KilljoyX23> Ah, well ill fix that when im more linux fluent. What exactly would i need to do to convert to a normal install?
[04:26] <urlin2u> dr_willis, hallelujah . :D
[04:27] <dr_willis> artichoku:  i suggest just dumpting backtrack and using it from a live setup if you ever (rarely) need it.
[04:27] <artichoku> <--- i test network security
[04:27] <sharkmap> 11.10 ran very slow and locked. 10.4 is faster and more responsive
[04:27] <hydrox24> Josh|KilljoyX23: OK, well you'll need someone elses help for going from WUBI to a normal install but I can help you with a straight normal install
[04:27] <artichoku> it's not a rare occasion
[04:27] <zane> can someone help me get my belkin wireless usb adapter working? i have done 'sudo mv rtil8192sfw.bin /lib/firmware/RTL819SU/' and it doesn't work?
[04:27] <hydrox24> artichoku: maybe for you...
[04:28] <dr_willis> thats why bt is made for running from a live cd/flash...
[04:28] <Geeeeee> sharkmap: did you dual boot it or just reformat it as ubuntu?
[04:28] <dr_willis> but this is getting ot...
[04:28] <hydrox24> zane: have you tried adding the restricted drivers using the "additional drivers panel"/
[04:28] <artichoku> this conversation got weird. i just wanted to know about dual booting and my partition setup
[04:28] <zane> hydrox24: tried that, doesn't work. i'm using 10.10
[04:29] <sharkmap> i tried to resize the partition but that failed, so I just blew xp away and installed on the entire 20GB haed drive
[04:29] <zane> hydrox24: the chipset is a RTL8188SU
[04:30] <hydrox24> when you plug it in, does nothing happen?
[04:30] <zane> hydrox24: well dmesg reports it being identified, but it's not being initialized and 'iwconfig' doesn't show it
[04:30] <zane> hydrox24: it doesn't light up either
[04:31] <hydrox24> zane: does ifconfig -a show it?
[04:31] <zane> hydrox24: no
[04:31] <sharkmap> i must admit, I am a beginner at this. It is basically my first Linux install ever.
[04:32] <hydrox24> ok
[04:32] <hydrox24> zane: wait a minute
[04:32] <zane> hydrox24: ok
[04:32] <hydrox24> sharkmap: that's OK
[04:33] <sharkmap> thanks. I'm giving myself a pat on the back for getting the laptop to work. 11.10 was so slow I thought the laptop was a gonner.
[04:33] <dr_willis> artichoku:  use custom partioning schemd. or other tools to resize and make a partion to use for /, swap can be shared if you dont use hibernate/suspend
[04:35] <sharkmap> i did install 11.10 onto a usb stick and try a live install on my desktop to see how it would run. its a lot quicker than the laptop was
[04:35] <JackAnansi> Hi, I installed Lubuntu, and I was wondering how to change the resolution of the tty (ctrl-alt- [1-6] ) screen. It seems to be exceeding my monitor's max, so I'm getting an "Input out of range" message
[04:36] <Geeeeee> To uninstall wubi/ubuntu, do i just delete the files from my C drive?
[04:36] <hydrox24> Geeeeee: let me check
[04:37] <dr_willis> Geeeeee:  wubis main feature is it installs/uninstalls via the windows add/remove programs tool
[04:37] <dr_willis> you dont 'just delete the files'
[04:37] <Geeeeee> its not in the add/remove thing
[04:38] <dr_willis> you can access your wubi install from a full install of ubuntu, or vrom a live cd ifyou wanted to..
[04:38] <dr_willis> Geeeeee:  somthings weird then. wubi defainatly should have an entry there
[04:39] <hydrox24> zane: see this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1594535
[04:39] <Geeeeee> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WubiGuide#How_do_I_uninstall_Wubi.3F
[04:39] <Geeeeee> the manually one, should i just do that
[04:39] <dr_willis> No idea. I make it a point to stay far away from wubi. :)
[04:40] <zane> hydrox24: already been there and looked at that
[04:40] <Geeeeee> yeah i want to get rid of it.
[04:41] <Geeeeee> got it, its uninstalling now
[04:41] <hydrox24> zane: what resulted from your attempt?
[04:42] <urlin2u> Geeeeee, wubi not showing inn the add remove, you have to have admin access.
[04:42] <zane> hydrox24: nada
[04:42] <hydrox24> so it didn't work?
[04:42] <hydrox24> what went wrong?
[04:43] <Geeeeee> i do have admin access.
[04:43] <Geeeeee> it said it uninstalled just then
[04:43] <agu10^> hey
[04:43] <urlin2u> Geeeeee, it's being removed though right?
[04:43] <Geeeeee> I downloaded the wubi uninstaller, and it uninstalled.
[04:43] <gh0zt> when i start dhcpd I get 'cant open /etc/dhcp3/dhcpd.conf: permission denied" but it is there.
[04:44] <dr_willis> gh0zt:  how are you starting it?
[04:44] <reapingwo> anyone have experience with samba and file sharing???
[04:44] <gh0zt> dhcpd -d -f -cf /etc/dhcp3/dhcpd.conf at0 &
[04:44] <dr_willis> reapingwo:  theres 1000's of sites and most people in here have SOME experience with it.. ask your specific question about it and see
[04:44] <dr_willis> gh0zt:  a service may need 'sudo' rights
[04:45] <reapingwo> I'm trying to let my HTPC stream files through XBMC from my other computer but no luck so far
[04:45] <reapingwo> been googling all day and can't figure out what I am missing
[04:45] <agu10^> I just installed ubuntu and I have 2 screens: 1366x768 and 1920x1200. They were working at that resolution. After I restarted the computer, and tried to re-configure them at that resolution, it now says: "The selected configuration for displays could not be applied. required virtual size does not fit available size: requested=(1920, 1968), minimum=(320, 200), maximum=(1920, 1920)"
[04:45] <dr_willis> reapingwo:  xbmc can also access upnp shares  such as what 'ushare' or 'mediatomb' can supply.
[04:46] <reapingwo> I configured my samber server with system-config-samba but I cant browse the shares
[04:46] <dr_willis> reapingwo:  can your linux box access the shares from outside xbmc?
[04:46] <Geeeeee> now i have to learn how to install dual operating systems with that patrition thing :P
[04:46] <agu10^> Any help?
[04:47] <dr_willis> i noticed xbmc being a little stupid here and not wanting to access a share that the host os can easially access
[04:47] <urlin2u> agu10^, gotta give it mote than a min. :D
[04:47] <reapingwo> I have been using ssh to get access, but no luck with samba
[04:47] <urlin2u> more*
[04:47] <reapingwo> looking into ushare and mediatomb now
[04:47] <dr_willis> reapingwo:  sshfs is handy also.
[04:47] <agu10^> oh, sorry
[04:47] <dr_willis> ushare is fairly easy to get going. but dosent have a nice gui front end.  i just set it to share my whole 'media' drive.
[04:47] <Xourii> ello everyone.
[04:48] <dr_willis> ushare alsoworks  for my other media devices in the house.
[04:48] <Xourii> Could someone give me a reason why we don't use Ubuntu in our schools? I'm writing a persuasive essay in favor of Linux/GNU in schools.
[04:48] <reapingwo> yeah, im just looking for a way to get my HTPC to stream video from my other rig, as my htpc has a small HD
[04:50] <dr_willis> reapingwo:  if its a dedicated machine for htpc  you may want to try out  the 'openelec' live/mini disrto. its basically a small xbmc-live disrto. its in beta testing
[04:50] <almoxarife> reapingwo: xbmc does that for me all day long
[04:50] <dr_willis> xbmc works well here.. but last night.. it did not want to see my samba shares.. then today .. it did see them. Not sure what the deal was
[04:50] <JackAnansi> anyone know how to change the resolution used in TTY sessions?
[04:50] <reapingwo> I think im good with the full distro, my htpc is a beast of a rig, for what it has to do
[04:50] <almoxarife> dr_willis: greemlins?
[04:50] <agu10^> any help? setting resolution of screens
[04:51] <agu10^> http://pastebin.com/L3PM5cQv
[04:51] <dr_willis> JackAnansi:  the consoles, can be set to use the framebuffer, and  theres settings, or the fbset command to tweak the res of the framebuffer
[04:51] <almoxarife> grimlins ?
[04:51] <reapingwo> dr_willis, how do I configure ushare?
[04:51] <gh0zt> I installed dhcp3-server in ubuntu but how do i start it?  there is no dhcpd3.  there is a dhcpd but I dont think that was part of dhcp3-server.
[04:51] <dr_willis> reapingwo:  edit its config files and start the service..
[04:51] <reapingwo> oic
[04:51] <dr_willis> reapingwo:  read of its docs.. is handy also. :)
[04:51] <dr_willis> i basically added a few paths and ran it.
[04:52] <JackAnansi> dr_willis: I'm new to linux; not sure how to do that
[04:53] <dr_willis> JackAnansi:  its one of those obscure areas that i havent messed with in ages.. the framebuffer console is normally more hassles then its worth.  You are talking about the alt-ctrl-f1 type console right?
[04:53] <JackAnansi> dr_willis: yeah. I think it's trying to use a resolution that's higher than my monitor's max
[04:54] <dr_willis> JackAnansi:  i tend to set up grub with the 'noquiet nofb' option and totally disable the framebuffer. that way the consoles use a nice simple low res text only display
[04:55] <Guest28545> WOOO!! WOOO!! WOOO!!  I just got my new build fired up and I'm staring at my uefi bios. There is no o/s installed and I would like to try running an ubuntu live cd on that computer. I need to make sure that this will work with uefi bios if I try it. Does anyone know if it should work?
[04:55] <JackAnansi> dr_willis: think you could walk me through? I know basic bash syntax, but I'm getting lost in the file system
[04:55] <tjf> so I suppose nobody has any clue whatsoever as to why Ubuntu would refuse to connect to the internet?
[04:55] <haven> How can Paltalk be used in Ubuntu? Can anyone give me the solution?
[04:56] <almoxarife> haven: tried using wine to run it?
[04:56] <urlin2u> tjf, how are your trying to connect?
[04:56] <hydrox24> zane: so it didn't work?
[04:56] <agu10^> HELP I can't get my resolution to apply! http://pastebin.com/L3PM5cQv
[04:56] <tjf> urlin2u, wired
[04:56] <tjf> via ethernet
[04:57] <urlin2u> tjf, no sure myself.
[04:57] <urlin2u> not*
[04:57] <almoxarife> haven: paltalk is also a web app, so any browser should work
[04:57] <hydrox24> agu10^: how did you try to reconfigure the computer?
[04:57] <haven> almoxarife: you mean right click the icon and click the run in wine ?
[04:57] <agu10^> screen settings, change resolution
[04:57] <Lasivian> Is there any way in Gnome/nautilus to make a link to a network location on a windows machine?
[04:57] <dr_willis> JackAnansi:   you want to DISABLE the framebuffer then?
[04:58] <dr_willis> xbmc definatly has issues finding the samba shares. Nautilus access them fine.
[04:58] <almoxarife> haven: paltalk now works in a web browser
[04:58] <hydrox24> ok
[04:58] <dr_willis> xbmc rather finds them.. but asks for a user/pass that i enter corectly.. then dosent seem to want to actually get into the share.
[04:58] <haven> I will go to see
[04:58] <Lasivian> I can get to the windows machine/directory, but it's a pain in the butt
[04:59] <JackAnansi> dr_willis: if that'll fix it I'm fine with it. or if I can just edit the config file somewhere to use a different resolution
[04:59] <agu10^> hydrox24: just in screen settings... GUI
[04:59] <gh0zt> I have dhcp3-server installed on 11.10 and I cannot figure out how to start it.  I keep getting permission denied errors for "/etc/dhcp3/dhcpd.conf" whenever starting it by issuing "dhcpd -d -f -cf /etc/dhcp3/dhcpd.conf at0 &" and whenever I run it.  but i'm not even sure if that's how i'm supposed to start dhcp3-server because it isn't in services or /etc/init.d
[04:59] <goblinshark> HGEYT
[04:59] <goblinshark> can someone please help
[04:59] <goblinshark> for the love of god
[04:59] <goblinshark> CAN YOU HELP JESUS
[04:59] <hydrox24> agu10^: yes, I understand
[04:59] <FloodBot1> goblinshark: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:59] <goblinshark> jesus christ
[04:59] <cheese1756> Hi
[04:59] <hydrox24> goblinshark: calm down pleas
[04:59] <Kami__> hi
[04:59] <agu10^> Display Settings -> Resolution        http://pastebin.com/L3PM5cQv
[04:59] <dr_willis> JackAnansi:  you edit the /etc/default/grub to set the default options and grub res. (back up that file first) and you will need sudo rights to edit it. Its very well documented at the grub2 factoid urls
[05:00] <cheese1756> Does anyone know which command restarts alsamixer?
[05:00] <dr_willis> !grub2 | JackAnansi
[05:00] <cheese1756> Also, the alsa default seems to be constantly changing
[05:00] <hydrox24> goblinshark: you didn't even state your question?
[05:00] <goblinshark> I NEED
[05:00] <goblinshark> you to help
[05:00] <cheese1756> Well, not the default itself, but the number it is associated with
[05:00] <goblinshark> please
[05:00] <goblinshark> ?
[05:00] <FloodBot1> goblinshark: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:00] <agu10^> goblinshark: i bet ubuntu is killing you
[05:00] <goblinshark> will you please
[05:00] <goblinshark> yes it is
[05:00] <agu10^> goblinshark: ubuntu is not for non-hax0rs
[05:00] <zane> i have installed ndiswrapper and when doing 'modprobe ndiswrapper' i am getting an error about it not being found
[05:00] <goblinshark> hey buddy
[05:00] <goblinshark> i need u
[05:00] <cheese1756> My headset is set to 3 in alsa.conf, for eample, but then on the next reboot it is set to 2, then to 1, etc
[05:00] <cheese1756> Any ideas?
[05:01] <agu10^> i feel needed, goblinshark
[05:01] <goblinshark> Hey, would someone please help me
[05:01] <goblinshark> i need help
[05:01] <goblinshark> can anyone please help unbuntu?
[05:01] <goblinshark> nim trying to install unbuntu
[05:01] <goblinshark> wubi.exe
[05:01] <goblinshark> it says
[05:01] <cheese1756> goblinshark: State your question and people will answer
[05:01] <agu10^> goblinshark: I guess you need professional help
[05:01] <goblinshark> i do
[05:01] <cheese1756> Don't just spam that you need help
[05:01] <goblinshark> but they wont help
[05:01] <cheese1756> it makes no one want to help you
[05:01] <goblinshark> holy god
[05:01] <goblinshark> im sorry cheesebread
[05:01] <pangolin> !enter | goblinshark
[05:01] <agu10^> goblinshark: who is they? do you hear voices?
[05:02] <goblinshark> the nazis
[05:02] <goblinshark> System Shock
[05:02] <dr_willis> and another example of how to not get help on irc....
[05:02] <goblinshark> System Shock 2
[05:02] <goblinshark> Just be patient mr. willis
[05:02] <Nullifi3d> BEST GAME OF ALL TIME
[05:02] <goblinshark> I have a data
[05:02] <goblinshark> disc
[05:02] <Nullifi3d> SS2
[05:02] <goblinshark> do you think say?
[05:02] <dr_willis> JackAnansi:  getting ready to pastebin my example  file for you
[05:02] <goblinshark> hey willis
[05:03] <sixcorners> How does ubiquity suggest the hostname that it does when you are at the step to rename your computer?
[05:03] <goblinshark> hey baby
[05:03] <JackAnansi> dr_willis: thanks :) I'm reading up on grub2
[05:03] <goblinshark> hey dr. willis
[05:03] <goblinshark> Dr_willis
[05:03] <agu10^> I need help! I can't set the proper screen resolution. http://pastebin.com/L3PM5cQv
[05:03] <dannel> sixcorners, magic 8-ball
[05:03] <pangolin> !behelpful
[05:04] <cheese1756> Now that he's gone, does anyone have any ideas?
[05:04] <sixcorners> dannel, those things never work for me : \
[05:04] <cheese1756> Why the number associated with my headset and soundcards change each reboot?
[05:04] <cheese1756> Also, how do I set the defaults and restart alsamixer
[05:04] <JackAnansi> dr_willis: #GRUB_GFXMODE=640x480 looks promising, but it says it only applies to the boot menu display
[05:04] <agu10^> Doesn't anybody know how to solve my issue??? http://pastebin.com/L3PM5cQv
[05:05] <trypnotic> hey
[05:05] <trypnotic> would someone here please help me
[05:05] <trypnotic> ?
[05:05] <dannel> ask your question and they might
[05:05] <trypnotic> k
[05:05] <trypnotic> my dog
[05:05] <dannel> oh, troll.
[05:05] <trypnotic> I am trying to install ubuntu
[05:06] <urlin2u> agu10^, please don't post every minute the channel suggests every 15 min.
[05:06] <trypnotic> urine2u
[05:06] <trypnotic> hey buddy
[05:06] <trypnotic> can you help me?
[05:06] <agu10^> oh, okay... i found that I need ATI catalyst or something... where should I get it? it's not in software center
[05:07] <pangolin> trypnotic: only if yo ask a question
[05:07] <dr_willis> JackAnansi:  my example -->  /etc/default/grub
[05:07] <dr_willis> http://paste.ubuntu.com/819658/
[05:07] <trypnotic> sure
[05:07] <dannel> agu10^, amd's website
[05:07] <trypnotic> of course
[05:07] <trypnotic> im broke
[05:07] <trypnotic> here goes
[05:07] <FloodBot1> trypnotic: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:07] <dr_willis> JackAnansi:  befor that you want to try the 'nofb' option.  unless you want to play with the grub menu res
[05:07] <urlin2u> noobs from space.
[05:07] <trypnotic> I am trying to install Ubuntu
[05:07] <trypnotic> it is saying
[05:07] <trypnotic> win i try to execute the file
[05:07] <dr_willis> agu10^:  the fglrx drivers include the ati (now amd catalyst) config tool.
[05:08] <dr_willis> agu10^:  its called amdccl (i think) from the command line
[05:08] <trypnotic> I:\ wubi.exe is not a valid win 32 exe application
[05:08] <trypnotic> will anyone help me?
[05:08] <agu10^> dr_willis: thanks!
[05:08] <trypnotic> wubi . exe is not a valid win32 application
[05:08] <dr_willis> agu10^:  amdcccle
[05:08] <trypnotic> anyone know?
[05:08] <trypnotic> dr. willis
[05:08] <dr_willis> agu10^:  such an annoying name... :)
[05:08] <trypnotic> dr. willis
[05:08] <pangolin> trypnotic: Please stop hitting enter every 3 words
[05:08] <trypnotic> you there man?
[05:08] <urlin2u> ! ask | trypnotic
[05:08] <dr_willis> trypnotic:  running wubi.exe in windows? sounds like its currupted..
[05:08] <trypnotic> Im sorry but you
[05:09] <trypnotic> its not
[05:09] <dr_willis> trypnotic:  i reccomend not using wubi at all.
[05:09] <trypnotic> its a fresh exe
[05:09] <pangolin> trypnotic: sorry but nothing, just stop.
[05:09] <trypnotic> I have the disc but
[05:09] <trypnotic> ok i burned it to a cd
[05:09] <LukeNukem_> hey guys i installed wine, i have an extra ntfs partition..i want to use that as a drive in wine how to do this
[05:09] <trypnotic> i cant boot up with it
[05:09] <trypnotic> i cant run it in windows
[05:09] <LukeNukem_> i tried browsing to to the ntfs partition, but its not showing in wine config
[05:09] <LinuxApprentice> why does 'modprobe ndiswrapper' report 'module not found' when i have ndiswrapper installed?
[05:10] <dr_willis> LukeNukem_:  you can mount it whever you want and access it as if it was a folder from within wine apps.
[05:10] <dr_willis> LukeNukem_:  ie: /media/windata  or whatever
[05:10] <LukeNukem_> dr_willis, its mounted, i want to install wine applications on that, how do i do this?
[05:10] <LukeNukem_> o.o
[05:10] <dr_willis> LukeNukem_:  i think x: or z: is the / of the whole os from wines point of view.
[05:10] <Kami__> question: http://paste.ubuntu.com/819660/
[05:10] <hydrox24> LukeNukem_: try this:
[05:11] <LukeNukem_> dr_willis, z is /
[05:11] <dr_willis> LukeNukem_: so it will be z:/media/whatveritsmountedto/
[05:11] <hydrox24> LukeNukem_: actually, do you want to use it as your WINE folder (like .wine) or as an actual drive IN WINE?
[05:11] <paraiso> I just did a bunch of updates and now Ubuntu doesn't "see" any wifi networks (including mine).  How would I go about troubleshooting this problem?
[05:11] <LukeNukem_> hydrox24, want to use it as a drive in WINE
[05:11] <LukeNukem_> so i can install windows programs onto that partition
[05:11] <LukeNukem_> :D
[05:12] <hydrox24> LukeNukem_: OK, so open winecfg
[05:12] <LukeNukem_> uhuh next
[05:12] <dr_willis> LukeNukem_:   you can still install them to z:/whatever
[05:12] <hydrox24> then do to the drives tab
[05:12] <bobo37773> LinuxApprentice: Did you reboot since installation?
[05:12] <dr_willis> but setting up W: to point to /media/whatever may be easier
[05:12] <LinuxApprentice> bobo37773: yes
[05:13] <LukeNukem_> dr_willis, im installing adobe programs, they are about 8 GB or so. i dont want to take that much space up from my linux partition
[05:13] <LukeNukem_> hydrox24, ok there
[05:13] <dr_willis> LukeNukem_:  you could always link your .wine dir to be on that partition.
[05:13] <dr_willis> :)
[05:13] <hydrox24> LukeNukem_: Then after going into the drives tab, click the add button
[05:13] <semitones> is it still best to install windows first, then ubuntu when you're dual booting?
[05:13] <LukeNukem_> dr_willis, i dont understand..
[05:13] <dr_willis> semitones:  yes.
[05:13] <hydrox24> semitones: very much so
[05:13] <LukeNukem_> hydrox24, ok done
[05:13] <semitones> ok thanks :)
[05:13] <bobo37773> LinuxApprentice: Is usbcore loaded? Not even sure if that still matters.
[05:13] <dr_willis> LukeNukem_:  someday explore 'soft links' and the 'ln -s' command.
[05:13] <g0kul> Kami__, mumble in terminal might work, dont know exactly
[05:14] <hydrox24> LukeNukem_: now select which drive letter you want
[05:14] <LukeNukem_> D:
[05:14] <LinuxApprentice> bobo37773: yes it is
[05:14] <LukeNukem_> D:/
[05:14] <semitones> I tried booting from the Ubuntu Oneiric Disk, but after the loading dots, I got a mangled graphics screen :(
[05:14] <christiantarry> semitones:  why not run it as a VM
[05:14] <LinuxApprentice> bobo37773: do i need to write the config for modprobe?
[05:14] <bobo37773> Does modinfo ndiswrapper give you any info?
[05:14] <dr_willis> !nomodeset | semitones
[05:14] <Kami__> g0kul__, i see
[05:14] <semitones> christiantarry: game performance
[05:14] <hydrox24> LukeNukem_: Then, after clicking OK, type /media/DIRVENAME into the editable bar below the list of drives
[05:14] <semitones> dr_willis: thanks a bunch :)
[05:15] <semitones> dr_willis: what does no_apic do?
[05:15] <hydrox24> LukeNukem_: replacing DRIVENAME with the name of the ntfs partition/drive
[05:15] <dr_willis> semitones:  disabpes apic :)  whatever that is.. i cant recall. i used it years ago on a problem box.
[05:15] <haven> almoxarife: I have found the web paltalk. Thank you.
[05:15] <dr_willis> advances power interface control  (perhaps?)
[05:15] <LukeNukem_> path /Radioactive Zone
[05:16] <semitones> dr_willis: i ask because I had to use it with this motherboard years ago, and I wondered if I still needed it several versions of ubuntu later
[05:16] <hydrox24> semitones: it disable ACPI which controls power usage and interacts with the kernal
[05:16] <dr_willis> LukeNukem_:  spaces in the mountpoint may be problematic.
[05:16] <cheese1756> Hi. I have a headset that shows up just fine in alsamixer, but it doesn't show up in the sound menu
[05:16] <LukeNukem_> aw
[05:16] <hydrox24> LukeNukem_: should be: /media/Radioactive zone
[05:16] <cheese1756> Any ideas?
[05:16] <semitones> hydrox24: any idea how I will know if i need to disable it? I had to before, but I can't remember why
[05:16] <dr_willis> LukeNukem_:  you Might want to relabel the disk  some time to be 'Radioactivezone' or similer. if this has issues.
[05:16] <bobo37773> LinuxApprentice: Did you do a "depmod -a" and then "update-modules" and reboot?
[05:16] <hydrox24> semitones: no, disabling it shouldn't be necassery except for debugging
[05:17] <semitones> hydrox24: alright, thanks
[05:17] <hydrox24> LukeNukem_: it should now be configured
[05:17] <LukeNukem_> ok also i have windows on another partition, im dual booting..i want to remove it
[05:17] <blackbox> I am curious what people think of the meaning of life? What are we living for.
[05:17] <hydrox24> LukeNukem_: remove windows?
[05:17] <LukeNukem_> yes
[05:18] <hydrox24> blackbox: try ubuntu-offtopic for that
[05:18] <hydrox24> LukeNukem_: NO experience in it, but is there any data you want off  windows first?
[05:18] <urlin2u> !ot > blackbox
[05:18] <LukeNukem_> blackbox, for drugs of course
[05:18] <LukeNukem_> hydrox24, moved everything i need
[05:18] <bobo37773> hahaha
[05:18] <sharkmap> 42?
[05:18] <hydrox24> LukeNukem_: can you tell us about your partition setup briefly?
[05:18] <sunson_> I install djbdns. It works for localhost. But times out when queried from the lan (ie., dig google.com @<IP_ADDRESS> times out)
[05:19] <sunson_> what am I missing?
[05:19] <bobo37773> sunson_: Is djbdns a local domain name server daemon?
[05:20] <paraiso> I just did a bunch of updates and now Ubuntu doesn't "see" any wifi networks (including mine).  How do I fix this?
[05:21] <myndzi> reading "man boot"; it says init reads /etc/inittab - file does not exist. is there an accurate description of the ubuntu boot sequence somewhere? (preferably by version - lucid in specific at the moment though)
[05:21] <semitones> is there a way to tell Ubuntu NOT to install Grub when it installs?
[05:21] <dr_willis> LukeNukem_:  not all apps work 100% in wine.
[05:21] <brerrabbit> trying to administer a webserver on natty...do I need to set up bind in order to get the nameservers to work?
[05:21] <JackAnansi> dr_willis: just restarted, and the TTY's are working fine :)
[05:21] <semitones> just out of curiosity
[05:21] <brerrabbit> anybody know?
[05:21] <dr_willis> semitones:  i think theres a check box for that. but  i dont recall where.
[05:22] <dr_willis> semitones:  sort of annoying to insall an os and not be able to boot it. :)
[05:22] <hydrox24> semitones: I think ubuntu kinda needs it
[05:22] <JackAnansi> dr_willis: thanks for the help; you should really put it in a wiki somewhere for people. I've googled up and down all day for a solution
[05:22] <dr_willis> !nofb
[05:23] <hydrox24> I think that they need to have an ubuntu and ubuntu-advanced rather than a beginners channel
[05:23] <semitones> dr_willis: haha true. hydrox24 this is somewhat of an unusual case. I have ubuntu installed on another hard disk as well, and I could just update it to see the new hard disk
[05:23] <dr_willis> its on the framebuffer and grub wiki pages i belive.
[05:23] <hydrox24> LukeNukem_: you there mate?
[05:24] <semitones> hydrox24: well, they do have #ubuntu-beginners
[05:24] <hydrox24> semitones: mm I know, I was suggeting they should ditch that because all the beginners come here anyway. Which is fine of course
[05:25] <sunson_> bobosomfan: is it? :)