[00:00] <MG_> Thanks hitsujiTMO. That was the right hint thanks a lot
[00:01] <totesmuhgoats> hey guys
[00:02] <totesmuhgoats> i don't seem to see prime95 in the ubuntu repos even though it clearly has a linux version
[00:02] <nathanel1itane> doing it manually via sudo su gdm -s /bin/bash works
[00:02] <totesmuhgoats> is there an equivalent tool in the repos that you guys like?
[00:02] <totesmuhgoats> I want to stress test a new build
[00:02] <daftykins> i've used cpuburn in the past
[00:02] <totesmuhgoats> daftykins: thanks, i'll give it a try
[00:02] <totesmuhgoats> is it as effective?
[00:02] <daftykins> you need to run one instance per core, also you need to match the edition
[00:03] <daftykins> so for example, modern intel = "burnP6"
[00:03] <totesmuhgoats> edition?
[00:03] <totesmuhgoats> oh i see
[00:03] <daftykins> it's all in the man page
[00:03] <usr13> nathanel1itane: So you are editing /etc/init/gdm.conf, right?
[00:03] <totesmuhgoats> thanks my friend
[00:03] <pauljw> nomine, system settings; network
[00:03] <daftykins> so basically i'd have a terminal open per core, then another one with 'top' to watch it max load it :>
[00:03] <daftykins> hard to say if it's as good as prime95 though, not sure :)
[00:03] <DrChill> TJ-: It seems that the problem is within my script, any ideas? http://pastebin.com/KEpZyrjs
[00:03] <totesmuhgoats> does it also make heavy use of ram like prime95 does?
[00:04] <DrChill> TJ-: miner_running is present in /tmp
[00:04] <totesmuhgoats> because I have been able to find memory issues in the past with prime95 when even memtest didn't find them
[00:04] <daftykins> totesmuhgoats: i tend to fall back on memtest for RAM in new builds
[00:04] <daftykins> hmm i don't think that's likely at all :)
[00:04] <daftykins> depends how many passes you let memtest go for
[00:05] <daftykins> anywho back shortly, changing room
[00:05] <nomine> pauljw: i've used pon for connecting to my provider. there's no information there. thanks
[00:05] <hitsujiTMO>  totesmuhgoats does running the following explain to you why it doesn't work in a subhell?:    sudo whoami && sudo echo `whoami`
[00:05] <totesmuhgoats> daftykins: well what happened in the past was that I had memory that wasn't defective, it just didn't play well with a particular motherboard and I had all sorts of stability issues
[00:05] <hitsujiTMO>  totesmuhgoats does running the following explain to you why it doesn't work in a subshell?: sorry:     echo whoami && sudo echo `whoami`
[00:05] <psusi> totesmuhgoats, that's generally due to overheating caused by having both the cpu and ram stressed, and poor ventilation
[00:05] <ssl_> hitsujiTMO: i've edited the lightdm.conf file, but the lxde desktop keeps loading up :/ how can i disable it? thats why i wanted to uninstall it. also, storage space is very limited, so if it's possible i'd like to get rid of it
[00:06] <hitsujiTMO> ssl_: try rm ~/.dmrc
[00:06] <Uncancelled> fuck you :) Use MacOS
[00:06] <totesmuhgoats> psusi: yea that is what I thought but it wasn't the case, the ram was fine, cpu was fine, just the combination of ram + motherboard didn't work. memtest didn't yield anything but after a while of doing the most intensive prime95 testing it would find that the numbers didn't match what was expected
[00:07] <totesmuhgoats> switched that same ram out in a different system and put different sticks in that one
[00:07] <totesmuhgoats> prime95 ran fine and both PCs were stable afterward
[00:07] <psusi> totesmuhgoats, right... after a while the heat built up enough to screw it up
[00:07] <totesmuhgoats> no, not the heat
[00:07] <totesmuhgoats> the same cpu with cooler was used with different memory sticks
[00:07] <totesmuhgoats> and perfectly stable
[00:07] <totesmuhgoats> it was that particular stick and board not working well together
[00:08] <ryorky1> whenever I try to run a mysql outfile command, it keeps giving me a Can't create/write to file (Errorcode: 13 ) error msg
[00:08] <psusi> different memory sticks generate less heat, and are less susceptible to heat messing them up
[00:08] <totesmuhgoats> psusi: is that the case? i assumed maybe it was that the voltage was not exactly 1.5v as the manufacturer claimed
[00:08] <ryorky1> I can write to temp, but just not any other location
[00:09] <psusi> totesmuhgoats, it is possible that 1.5v wasn't quite enough for that ram once it got hot... and bumping it up a bit could have made it work
[00:10] <pauljw> nomine, how about sudo lshw ?
[00:10] <nomine> pauljw: it only outputs PCI (sysfs)
[00:11] <ssl_> hitsujiTMO: didn't work, but i see there are other conf files in /etc/lightdm/
[00:12] <psusi> totesmuhgoats, there's basically a tradeoff between voltage, temperature, and refresh rate... the higher the temperature and lower the voltage, the faster the data decays.. so they may test it and say it's good at 1.5v, but in your system with that load it gets 2-3 degrees warmer and falls short
[00:13] <hitsujiTMO> ssl_: lightdm.conf overrides the others so shouldn't be an issue. can you again pastebin /var/log/lightdm/lightdm.log
[00:15] <ssl_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6934313/
[00:17] <totesmuhgoats> psusi: so do you think cpuburn would help me to find instability in such a case?
[00:18] <hitsujiTMO> ssl_: Running command /usr/sbin/lightdm-session /usr/bin/startlxde seems to be doing it.  can you pastebin /usr/share/xsessions/LXDE.desktop      and the configs in: /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf.d/
[00:18] <ssl_> yes
[00:20] <ssl_> LXDE.desktop contains: Exec=/usr/bin/startlxde
[00:21] <ssl_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6934325/
[00:22] <hitsujiTMO> ssl_: and: cat /etc/lightdm/* | pastebinit
[00:25] <ssl_> thats a nice little command! http://paste.ubuntu.com/6934339/
[00:28] <hitsujiTMO> ssl_: hmm, try this: sudo dbus-send --system --type=method_call --print-reply --dest=org.freedesktop.Accounts /org/freedesktop/Accounts/User`id -u ubuntu` org.freedesktop.Accounts.User.SetXSession string:chromium
[00:32] <ssl_> dont know what that is, but it returns: Error org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.ServiceUnknown: The name org.freedesktop.Accounts was not provided by any .service files
[00:33] <hitsujiTMO> ssl_: ls -l /etc/x-session-manager
[00:33] <ssl_> lol i did apt-get autoremove lxde and it still boots up into lxde!
[00:33] <hitsujiTMO> ssl_: lol yup. some packages kinda do that. sudo apt-get autoremove
[00:33] <ssl_> no such directory
[00:35] <hitsujiTMO> ssl_: soory, i'm tired:P     ls -l /etc/alternatives/x-session-manager
[00:37] <ssl_> sudo find / | grep x-session-manager       nothing
[00:38] <hitsujiTMO> ssl_: ok, disable the autologin, and select the chromium xsession in lightdm
[00:39] <raj> did anyone hear about this website where you can enter linux commands (with their switches) and it'll tell you what each switch/argument does
[00:39] <raj> so you don't have to hunt through man pages for each option
[00:39] <raj> it was mentioned on lifehacker or something a few months back
[00:40] <pibby> raj: was it "term" something? I think I just saw a link recently, let me see what I can dig up
[00:40] <Rallias> Is there something like veth that doesn't involve the ethernet header implemented in ubuntu?
[00:40] <bekks> raj: google "man page the commandiaminterestedin"
[00:41] <bekks> Rallias: Whats "veth"?
[00:41] <Rallias> bekks, ip link veth0 type veth
[00:42] <pibby> raj: was it this? http://playterm.org/
[00:42] <bekks> Rallias: Is it something like a vnic?
[00:42] <hitsujiTMO> raj: i;m sure they';; know in #bash
[00:42] <HolyQuacomole> hitsujiTMO, Yeah I had a bit of trouble trying to install from one of those downloads before. I'll download this version & try it
[00:43] <raj> pibby, no
[00:43] <Jordan_U> Rallias: What is your end goal?
[00:45] <Jordan_U> Rallias: If you want a point to point connection between host and container at layer 3 only, there is: http://openvz.org/Venet .
[00:46] <Rallias> Jordan_U, I want to seperate my client VPN users into separate network namespaces (ip netns) without having to have the local overhead of ethernet headers.
[00:47] <bekks> Rallias: Describe that "overhead" in terms like "count of packets, bandwidth, etc." please.
[00:47] <Rallias> Jordan_U, The overhead of an archaic kernel such as OpenVZ is well in excess of the overhead of routing by ethernet header.
[00:47] <eda_> asdasd
[00:48] <Rallias> bekks, Ethernet packets are bigger, causing unnecessary overhead that I feel should be handled at the gateway as opposed to at the vm.
[00:48] <Rallias> Well... not VM... the only separation is in the network layer.
[00:48] <Jordan_U> Rallias: What type of containers are these?
[00:48] <bekks> "feelings" are something that can be safely ignored in terms of "IT".
[00:48] <Rallias> jordan, Network namespace.
[00:49] <hitsujiTMO> Rallias: are you saying you want to use ethernet without the overhead of ethernet?
[00:49] <Rallias> hitsujiTMO, No. I'm saying I want to use ethernet without the overhead of a local bridge.
[00:49] <bekks> hitsujiTMO: Actually, yes.
[00:50] <bekks> Rallias: Describe the "overhead" of a local bridge in terms of "packet size overhead in bytes" and in terms of "amount of packets" please.
[00:50] <bekks> Rallias: you meay use "MTU" in your description as well. :)
[00:50] <Rallias> bekks, More CPU cycles.
[00:51] <bekks> Rallias: LOl
[00:51] <Jordan_U> bekks: Please be respectful to all users of this channel.
[00:51] <Rallias> It is a potential option which I wish to entertain in developing the most efficient setup possible.
[00:51] <bekks> Jordan_U: I will.
[00:52] <hitsujiTMO> Rallias: what layer encapsulation are you reffering to?
[00:53] <Rallias> hitsujiTMO, 3 mostly.
[00:54] <TJ-> Rallias: If I understand correctly, you've got multiple layer-3 (TCP/UDP) VPNs you wish to segregate, and are doing so using containers/network namespaces, and are looking for a way to connect the layer-3 VPNs to the host without having to put them through the layer-2 Ethernet veth interface to a bridge on the host?
[00:55] <Rallias> TJ-, yes.
[00:55] <TJ-> Rallias: Knowing how the kernel passes things around internally, I don't think you need to be too concerned about ethernet headers for those.
[00:55] <ggreer> ok sweet. got dual-booting windows 8 and ubuntu in uefi with secureboot on. now just gotta fix the X segfault :x
[00:58] <ggreer> http://abughrai.be/Xorg.0.log
[00:58] <ggreer> ^^ log from crash
[00:58] <hitsujiTMO> Rallias: if you're talking about a vpn then you need that overhead. it's minimal but necessary. the only thing you could try and do is up the MTU but every device in that network would need to have the same oversized MTU
[00:58] <ggreer> TJ-: you asked for a picture. tada there's the log
[00:58] <Beldar> ggreer, I would pastebin that text
[00:59] <hitsujiTMO> ggreer: radeon driver crashing. maybe try fglrx
[00:59] <ggreer> what's wrong with my personal server?
[01:00] <hitsujiTMO> Rallias: network segment i should say
[01:00] <daftykins> ggreer: had you already tried to install the AMD proprietary driver 'fglrx' on that install?
[01:01] <ggreer> daftykins: nope
[01:01] <daftykins> ggreer: ah, it's just trying to look for it a few times :)
[01:01] <ggreer> or at least, not intentionally. I did check the "install 3rd party proprietary stuff" in the installer
[01:01] <daftykins> oh right
[01:01] <daftykins> that might be it
[01:01] <ggreer> but I figured that was just mp3 decoding or whatever
[01:01] <daftykins> mmm.
[01:01] <ggreer> no fglrxinfo
[01:02] <daftykins> ggreer: looks like you have the quite new AMD Kabini platform there
[01:03] <ggreer> yeah, I guess
[01:03] <ggreer> lenovo x140e, which is certified with 12.04: http://www.ubuntu.com/certification/hardware/201309-14195/
[01:03] <daftykins> ggreer: i suspect then that you might need to install the latest AMD driver to get that running nicely
[01:03] <ggreer> probably. I'm following the manual instructions now
[01:03] <daftykins> ggreer: that refers to an AMD A4, is yours not an A6? can you check in /proc/cpuinfo ?
[01:04] <ggreer> amd a4-5000
[01:04] <daftykins> oh ok
[01:04] <ggreer> yeah I tried to order the model that was the same as the certified model
[01:05] <ggreer> I'm impressed with the setup process. it was a little tricky to set up encryption for the whole ubuntu partition, but besides that it worked quite well
[01:05] <ssl_> hitsujiTMO: i've completly removed lxde and added user-session=chromium-browser to my lightdm.conf, but the lightdm.log says "Failed to find session configuration default" and doesn't seem to try loading my chromium-browser.desktop
[01:05] <ggreer> even secureboot and dual-booting are fine
[01:05] <daftykins> ggreer: how did you get around your earlier troubles? alternate install disc instead?
[01:05] <ssl_> perhaps "user-session" is wrong?
[01:05] <ggreer> graphics worked in the installer
[01:05] <ggreer> so I hit alt + f1 and ran sudo DISPLAY=':0' gparted
[01:06] <TJ-> ggreer: see bug #1253974
[01:06] <ggreer> and got gparted in the installer GUI
[01:06] <ggreer> TJ-: thanks
[01:06] <Jordan_U> ggreer: Next time use gksudo.
[01:06] <hitsujiTMO> ssl_: very strange. i've managed such before tirh other software my self
[01:07] <ggreer> is that even on the install disc?
[01:07] <Jordan_U> ggreer: Yes.
[01:07] <ggreer> neat
[01:08] <hitsujiTMO> ssl_: have you tried disabling the auto login temporarily and setting the xsession in lightdm yet?
[01:08] <MichaelTunnell> what is the channel for ubuntu package management?
[01:09] <[x]> :)
[01:10] <Jordan_U> MichaelTunnell: Package management in what sense?
[01:10] <ssl_> hitsujiTMO: autologin is disabled. what you mean by setting xsession in lightdm?
[01:11] <MichaelTunnell> someone I could point to a bug in my package that is in the repo, I have already submitted the bug but no one is looking at it and it is a Ubuntu specific thing so the Debian maintainer has nothing to do with it
[01:11] <hitsujiTMO> ssl_: in light dm, you can choose your session from the available sessions (top right corner iirc)
[01:11] <ssl_> oh
[01:12] <[x]> ssL
[01:12] <[x]> ssl_, hi
[01:12] <daftykins> MichaelTunnell: something like #ubuntu-packaging
[01:12] <ssl_> well i removed the greeter, so there is no gui left :D
[01:12] <MichaelTunnell> daftykins:  thanks
[01:12] <[x]> wow
[01:12] <ssl_> [x]: hi
[01:12] <hitsujiTMO> ssl_: ahh, add in the greeter again and have a test :)
[01:12] <TJ-> MichaelTunnell: #ubuntu-bugs
[01:12] <designbybeck> Awhile back I backed up my system (at least I thought it was all of it) but now I was going to try to move the Steam/Valve back over to the new install so I could play my saved games. How do I find that file and how to I restore it? Do I have to install Steam again? I was hoping since I already downloaded everything I wouldn't have to do it again. Any ideas!?
[01:12] <[x]> [x]
[01:12] <MichaelTunnell> TJ-: thank you as well
[01:13] <hitsujiTMO> [x]: do you have an ubuntu support question?
[01:14] <[x]> hitsujiTMO  no
[01:14] <hitsujiTMO> [x]: this is the ubuntu support channel, not a chat channel
[01:15] <hitsujiTMO> !alis | [x] maybe this can help you find a channel
[01:15] <daftykins> designbybeck: #ubuntu-steam
[01:15] <[x]> hitsujiTMO know just trying to get ideas from others broblem
[01:15] <designbybeck> just found it thanks daftykins
[01:15] <designbybeck> I'm there now
[01:15] <[x]> problem *
[01:16] <Hades666> hello
[01:17] <[x]> hitsujiTMO one help how to coonect to ubuntu vm using putty via ssh in host only n/w
[01:18] <HolyQuacomole> ubottu, how's it going bot, want to help me install stuff?
[01:18] <[x]> from windows
[01:18] <HolyQuacomole> ubottu, how do I install a package from source?
[01:18] <daftykins> [x]: find out the VMs IP address, enter that into putty - connect!
[01:18] <[x]> in back track its easy sshd-geneate
[01:18] <daftykins> HolyQuacomole: if you think you need a package from source, likely you're doing something wrong
[01:19] <[x]> thanks daftykins
[01:19] <daftykins> [x]: of course the VM needs openssh-server installed
[01:19] <[x]> daftykins 1st we have to config ssh server in ubuntu ??
[01:20] <daftykins> [x]: depends what you installed
[01:20] <HolyQuacomole> daftykins, trying to update/fresh install wifi software/drivers. Currently I've had ubuntu on the same machine about 4 times & it sometimes has trouble connecting to the wifi, but I can boot into windows & connect straight away no problems. I'm using a usb wifi
[01:21] <[x]> as like in backtrack how to connect to ssh in ubuntu using ssh keys
[01:22] <daftykins> [x]: you'll have to read up on how to reconfigure SSH
[01:22] <daftykins> HolyQuacomole: which chipset does it use? are you in windows right now?
[01:23] <[x]> daftykins any FM for ssh configuration ??
[01:24] <daftykins> you're on your own there i'm afraid
[01:30] <HolyQuacomole> No, today it's working okay for some reason. But usually I'll be on windows all day fine perfect, then I come on ubuntu & it will connect for 5 minutes then not really connect again. Yesterday it was playing up so I custom added the wifi with it's mac address off of the router, it connects to that then makes another edited connection.
[01:30] <HolyQuacomole> daftykins, No, today it's working okay for some reason. But usually I'll be on windows all day fine perfect, then I come on ubuntu & it will connect for 5 minutes then not really connect again. Yesterday it was playing up so I custom added the wifi with it's mac address off of the router, it connects to that then makes another edited connection.
[01:30] <HolyQuacomole> daftykins, so yeah I'm on ubuntu right now not windows.
[01:32] <daftykins> HolyQuacomole: ok, if you run "lsusb" in a terminal, it should show what chipset your wireless device is using
[01:35] <HolyQuacomole> daftykins, Yeah sorry forgot to tell you the chipset it's rlt 8192CU, I have been through this with "hitsujiTMO". I got this file to install http://www.realtek.com/downloads/downloadsView.aspx?Langid=1&PNid=48&PFid=48&Level=5&Conn=4&DownTypeID=3&GetDown=false&Downloads=true#RTL8192CU
[01:35] <daftykins> ah you're in good hands there :)
[01:36] <HolyQuacomole> daftykins, I just haven't installed that crap yet, I'm still noob at installing from them kinds of files, I tried checkinstall (that I downloaded to use instead of make install) but it just fails, I'm obviously missing some command lines I'm supposed to add in
[01:36] <[x]> daftykins by default open-ssh is not installed in Ubuntu ?
[01:37] <ggreer> installing amd drivers is quite the rabbit hole
[01:37] <ggreer> https://gist.github.com/moldcraft/8116528
[01:37] <daftykins> [x]: for desktop, no - 'openssh-server' will need to be installed
[01:37] <crash_focus> installing drivers in general is a rabbit hole
[01:37] <daftykins> HolyQuacomole: sure, hang on just having a look at the .zip myself - i'm already seeing an install script in the root
[01:38] <ggreer> I mean these ones don't compile
[01:38] <ggreer> so I have to patch them
[01:38] <nohave> i
[01:38] <HolyQuacomole> daftykins, Yeah I can't tick the box in its properties to allow to execute it, it unticks itself.
[01:39] <daftykins> HolyQuacomole: i wouldn't do things graphically anyway, hang on
[01:39] <[x]> daftykins is desktop version is also for laptop ??
[01:39] <[x]> what is the difference between a desktop version and server ??
[01:39] <daftykins> [x]: it's the one with a GUI, as opposed to the one for servers
[01:40] <[x]> ohhh desktop version only have GUI !
[01:40] <LarryWessels> is KIM KARDASHIAN the BREAD that CAME DOWN FROM HEAVEN
[01:40] <LarryWessels> !ops
[01:41] <HolyQuacomole> daftykins, should I try installing from terminal again?
[01:41] <LarryWessels> !ops
[01:41] <LarryWessels> !ops | is KIM KARDASHIAN the BREAD that CAME DOWN FROM HEAVEN
[01:41] <[x]> !ops
[01:41] <daftykins> HolyQuacomole: have you read document/Quick_Start_Guide_for_Driver_Compilation_and_Installation.pdf ?
[01:42]  * Beldar mutters all bread has a shelf life
[01:42] <daftykins> :D
[01:42] <HolyQuacomole> ubottu, are the people who regularly come on here to help people employed by canonical or something?
[01:42] <rww> HolyQuacomole: most of them aren't :)
[01:42] <daftykins> HolyQuacomole: lol, that's a bot - no, everyone's a volunteer
[01:45] <daftykins> HolyQuacomole: ok so no, that script file isn't for Ubuntu
[01:47] <arun> guys, why BURG is slow than GRUB /
[01:48] <daftykins> HolyQuacomole: anywho that download appears to come with instructions, so give the PDFs a read if you're sure you want to update ;)
[01:48] <usr13> arun: try again...
[01:48] <Beldar> arun, burg is ajuat a earlier release of grub with the burg bling, where is it slow exactly?
[01:49] <Beldar> just*
[01:49] <arun> Beldar: while booting
[01:50] <HolyQuacomole> daftykins, I'll see how this connection keeps going for a few days. What's his face suggested I install the saucy package of some sort (something to do with xorg) into my precise but it wouldn't install.
[01:50] <arun> Beldar: after the selection of the options ... while the initialization of initram
[01:50] <daftykins> HolyQuacomole: you might want to give him whatever errors you encountered there then
[01:50] <daftykins> HolyQuacomole: or maybe just wait for April's new release of trusty and upgrade? :)
[01:51] <RexInEffect> can someone explain this hibernatuion problem with sharing swap space
[01:51] <Beldar> arun, I would ask them if you are sure of this, however I don't think it is actually being supported. It's 3rd party status cuts down the support, not sure many use it.
[01:51] <HolyQuacomole> daftykins, yeah I think it came to not knowing what was making it not install. Yeah I'm already holding out for then, but 2 months is still a longish time to wait. Another question, how would one go from precise to trusty? Can I upgrade without losing my files & having to reinstall apps?
[01:52] <arun> Beldar: ok dude thanks and is it possible to install ubuntu 32 bit in Windows 8 64 bit (dual boot) ?
[01:53] <rww> yes
[01:53] <ggreer> yessss that guide worked. I have graphics
[01:53] <ggreer> thanks to everyone who gave me hints and suggestions
[01:53] <Beldar> arun, 32 bit on a 64 bit yes, not sure of the access to windows though from ubuntu
[01:53] <daftykins> HolyQuacomole: might be easier to approach that topic at the time. i'm sure someone here would help as and when
[01:54] <daftykins> ggreer: :) glad it worked out
[01:55] <ggreer> everything else worked out of the box
[01:56] <ggreer> wireless, bluetooth, sound, camera, etc
[01:56] <ggreer> although now I can't boot into windows. I get some error about acpi path not found :/
[01:56] <HolyQuacomole> daftykins, Okay, Cheers pal.
[01:56] <ggreer> not sure when that started
[01:56] <ggreer> looks like a grub issue. will troubleshoot myself before asking specifics
[01:57] <HolyQuacomole> ggreer, from my noob experience if you're stuffing around with ubuntu dual boots & ubuntu in general for the first time, unplug other hard drives that the o/s isn't on so that you don't accidentally delete stuff.
[01:57] <daftykins> it's a laptop ;)
[01:57] <ggreer> HolyQuacomole: it's almost certainly a uefi issue
[01:58] <ggreer> I'm trying to dual-boot windows 8.1 and ubuntu 13.10
[01:58] <daftykins> i might power cycle myself to see if it's a quirk
[01:58] <daftykins> but anywho :)
[01:58] <ggreer> yeah I'm about to do that. gotta finish setting up some stuff in ubuntu
[01:58] <ggreer> get my ~/.zprofile over and all that
[01:59] <HolyQuacomole> ggreer, struth. I've had Windows 8.1 & Ubuntu 12.04 lts (I seem to prefer the long term support releases) & I nearly cried when to get rid of ubuntu I deleted its partition & had no bootloaders, had to do some windows recovery command crap to reinstall windows mbr
[02:00] <ggreer> brutal
[02:03] <diegoviola> hi
[02:03] <diegoviola> ubuntu will switch to systemd? wow
[02:04] <ggreer> makes me sad. I worry that software will depend on systemd and then never get ported to freebsd or os x :/
[02:04] <ggreer> I hope that isn't the case. systemd by itself has a lot of neat new things, I just don't want it to cause breakage on other OSes
[02:04] <diegoviola> ggreer: there's lots of software that already depend on systemd, no? like gnome and other DEs
[02:05] <ggreer> they depend on parts of systemd. systemd isn't just a one monolithic program
[02:05] <ggreer> only certain bits are totally un-portable
[02:05] <diegoviola> i'm not worried about that at all
[02:05] <pero> will it be possible to update a server from 12.10 to 14.04?
[02:05] <diegoviola> i'm happy that systemd is actually advancing things
[02:06] <diegoviola> moving things forward
[02:06] <rww> pero: The supported upgrade path would be 12.10 > 13.04 > 13.10 > 14.04. I'd probably just reinstall, personally.
[02:06] <ggreer> in my ideal world, systemd and launchd would have a common subset of API bits. then people who want to write interesting portable software could do so
[02:06] <rww> pero: you can only do LTS to LTS directly, so e.g. 12.04 to 14.04 would be direct
[02:06] <ggreer> and then freebsd would ditch svinit for launchd
[02:06] <diegoviola> if other systems want a specific software they could do the work to bring those software into their platforms
[02:06] <ggreer> and we would all hold hands and sing kumbaya
[02:07] <tux_1> Question, how would I install win xp, and 2 other Linux operating systems with the Linux systems using LVM ?
[02:07] <pero> rww: and not possible to downgrade 12.10 to 12.04?
[02:07] <rww> pero: Ubuntu doesn't support downgrading, correct
[02:08] <pero> rww: and 'do-release-upgrade' is the best practice?
[02:08] <rww> pero: on command-line, yes
[02:10] <pero> sudo: do-release-upgrade: command not found
[02:10] <hewhomust> hi would this cron time work for an hourly job * */1 * * *
[02:11] <Guest83946> i tried loading path of exile through playonlinux and it gives me the error failed resetting direct3d device objects. how can i fix that?
[02:11] <rww> pero: I think it's in update-notifier-common package
[02:11] <rww> hewhomust: yes, or just @hourly commandhere
[02:11] <hewhomust> ok thanks
[02:11] <rww> hewhomust: or or some particular minute of the hour, e.g. 7 * * * *
[02:11] <rww> or for **
[02:12] <hewhomust> ok thanks
[02:13] <GreenMuon> how get packa ge with virus inside?
[02:13] <pero> rww: fyi, update-manager-core
[02:13] <pero> rww: thx
[02:13] <GreenMuon> sorry,
[02:13] <GreenMuon> my friend typed that
[02:13] <rww> pero: ah, there we go. thanks for the correction :)
[02:14] <MichaelTunnell> GreenMuon: tell your friend it is called Windows
[02:14] <Bray90820> Not really an ubuntu question but is mpeg2 support built into debian
[02:14] <rww> Bray90820: ask #debian
[02:14] <GreenMuon> haha
[02:15] <MichaelTunnell> Bray90820: media support is different from codec support and basically no distros except mint comes with codecs by default...for legal reasons
[02:16] <MichaelTunnell> but yea ask in #debian for debian questions
[02:16] <Bray90820> But if i were to install the codec on ubuntu does that automatically mean my device can support it or not
[02:17] <Guest83946>  i tried loading path of exile through playonlinux and it gives me the error failed resetting direct3d device objects. how can i fix that?
[02:17] <MichaelTunnell> Bray90820: search the Software Center for Restricted Extras
[02:17] <MichaelTunnell> that will install codecs and more good stuff
[02:17] <MichaelTunnell> but depends on what you mean by your device so hard to say without more info
[02:18] <Guest83946> thats the error so idk
[02:19] <pero> rww: what if i have 3rd party repos still set for 12.10
[02:19] <pero> should i change them to saucy?
[02:19] <MichaelTunnell> Guest83946: you need to ask the playonlinux guys as I am not familiar with it...so join #playonlinux
[02:19] <Bray90820> I am not talking about any devices specifically just generally if the hardware is good enough to playback mpeg 2 content would installing the codec automatically assure that you can play the files or not
[02:19] <Guest83946> how do i do that?
[02:19] <rww> pero: the upgrade process with comment them out in sources.list. after the upgrade, you can uncomment and change the version on them
[02:19] <rww> will comment **
[02:22] <Bray90820> MichaelTunnell: I am not talking about any devices specifically just generally if the hardware is good enough to playback mpeg 2 content would installing the codec automatically assure that you can play the files or not
[02:28] <rawrmonster> I heard that running a bind server can help get you to new web pages faster but is it smart to run on on a laptop or does it open to many vulnerability unless you know exactly what your doing?
[02:28] <MichaelTunnell> Bray90820: I can't guarantee that...it depends on whether or not the file was encoded correctly...but if the video was made properly then yes installing the extras for the codecs would make them work just fine in Totem or in VLC
[02:28] <Bray90820> Alright
[02:29] <rawrmonster> I was only planning on having the dns sever responding to what ever my ip address is and no other
[02:29] <Bray90820> So it's OS specific not hardware specific
[02:29] <adah> how can i upgrade my bios?
[02:29] <rww> rawrmonster: running a bind server won't help you get to new web pages faster.
[02:30] <rww> rawrmonster: apart from anything else, network-manager in Ubuntu already uses dnsmasq to do what you want bind to do, out of the box. Your home network's router probably does too.
[02:30] <fathin> anyone tried tahr?
[02:30] <rww> fathin: #ubuntu+1 for unreleased Ubuntu, thanks :)
[02:30] <rawrmonster> rww: but wont it stop you from having to go to a public dns and all the way back to you from the internet and you can just ask the dns on your computer for the info
[02:30] <bazhang> fathin, #ubuntu+1 for that
[02:30] <fathin> oh okok
[02:31] <rawrmonster> rww: because my dns at the moment is <IP_ADDRESS>
[02:31] <rww> rawrmonster: no, you'll still have to do that the first time you do a lookup, it'll just cache it. which again, firefox, dnsmasq, and (probably) your router already do
[02:32] <rawrmonster> rww: because it is only the first time i go to a webpage that is sometimes really slow
[02:32] <rww> rawrmonster: bind won't help with that
[02:32] <hitsujiTMO> rawrmonster: your local dns needs to get its info from ... the internet. your just adding 1 more layer. not doing you any good
[02:32] <rww> ^
[02:32] <rawrmonster> hitsujiTMO: ahh that makes since
[02:32] <MichaelTunnell> adah: contact your computer manufacturer to see if they have a new bios or not
[02:32] <hitsujiTMO> rawrmonster: that has nothing to do with your dns
[02:32] <pero> rww: worked np
[02:33] <rww> pero: great :)
[02:33] <pero> 3.5 isn't 13.10's kernel though is it?
[02:33] <ianorlin> no it is not
[02:33] <pero> that would be digitalocean holding it back
[02:33] <pero> yea i thought so
[02:33] <rww> pero: VPSes tend to supply their own kernel indeed
[02:33] <hitsujiTMO> rawrmonster: slow loading pages is just down to a slow connection ... either at your end or the servers
[02:34] <rww> e.g. the version on my Debian Linode VPS is 3.12.6-x86-linode55
[02:34] <rawrmonster> thank you a lot guys hope i was not to much trouble with my noob question :D
[02:34] <rww> :)
[02:34] <hewhomust> can someone recommend a panel that has autohide
[02:35] <fathin> @hew panel?
[02:35] <ianorlin> lxpanel has autohide as well
[02:35] <rww> doesn't Unity's have it in a settings program somewhere
[02:35] <hewhomust> yeah i hate the default one
[02:35] <raj> pibby, hitsujiTMO the website is explainshell.com
[02:36] <raj> btw, is there a usual place to keep tarballs in your home directory?
[02:36] <hypercube32> raj, no, thats all up to you
[02:36] <hitsujiTMO> raj: thats purely personal preference
[02:36] <hypercube32> raj, if they are important to you, put them somewhere that is being backed up and you know it
[02:40] <rawrmonster> Not trying to bog you guys down with to many questions so this will be my last for a while. If i am am trying to learn iptables does anyone know a good tutorial that would not require me to spend a lot on a book, but something that is pretty current. I just don't have a lot of money to be spending on expensive books at the moment
[02:40] <raj> I understand it's purely preference, but I wanna know what're some usual directory names
[02:40] <presonic> anyone know why i'd have problems killing a rhythmbox process using kill -9 or killall
[02:40] <raj> it's currently in ~/downloads, where it doesn't belong
[02:40] <rawrmonster> because most of the tutorials that i have found are really really old
[02:40] <raj> ~/tarballs ?
[02:41] <raj> ~/non_repo_packages ? eww ugly
[02:41] <raj> ~/tarballs is too general, I just wanna put tarballs that are installed
[02:41] <hitsujiTMO> raj: theres no set place, just puth them in a directory you're comfortable with
[02:41] <TJ-> rawrmonster: "man iptables" ?
[02:41] <presonic> raj: mkdir put_tarballs_in_this_directory
[02:42] <TJ-> rawrite: the iptables packages installs HTML docs to "/usr/share/doc/iptables/html/"
[02:42] <presonic> this process wont die
[02:42] <TJ-> grrr, tab-completion gremlins
[02:42] <TJ-> rawrmonster:  the iptables packages installs HTML docs to "/usr/share/doc/iptables/html/"
[02:42] <genious> presonic whih one?
[02:42] <rawrmonster> TJ-: I have tried reading it but it just seems pretty cryptic to me being a noob i am looking for something that will explain from the ground up so i can learn how it all works at the same time. I do not mind it being long because it bet there is tons of stuff iptables can do.
[02:42] <daftykins> rawrmonster: your best bet is to google for peoples scripts and learn from them, it's not tooooo bad to pick up when you piece together examples
 anyone know why i'd have problems killing a rhythmbox process using kill -9 or killall
[02:43] <raj> hitsujiTMO, presonic where do you keep yours?
[02:43] <presonic> raj: atm im not that organized
[02:43] <genious> presonic go to terminal and sudo top
[02:43] <rawrmonster> TJ-: ook let me check out the html one then
[02:43] <raj> presonic, daemon?
[02:43] <presonic> i typically delete if i dont need them
[02:43] <presonic> otherwise i use ~/ARCHIVE
[02:44] <presonic> raj: idk
[02:44] <hitsujiTMO> raj: don't. grab them frsh off the net each time. some things get updated too often for me to bother archiving
[02:44] <presonic> i cant run it because the process is there
[02:44] <presonic> but i cant kill it
[02:44] <TJ-> rawrmonster: little tip for you, each package *may* install some docs and they'll always be under /usr/share/doc/>package-name>/
[02:44] <genious> presonic enter "u" then type in username
[02:45] <rawrmonster> TJ-: You have been so insightful and very much a help. Just wanted to say thank you!
[02:45] <genious> presonic then enter "k"
[02:45] <presonic> genious: in a terminal?
[02:45] <rawrmonster> TJ-: because i know you all don't get paid to help us :D
[02:46] <genious> presonic yes in the terminal
[02:46] <ggreer> uh. I went to settings -> software & updates and it said my packages were out of date or something. I clicked update and now my mouse cursor moves at 1fps and my keyboard is unresponsive
[02:46] <presonic> type the letter u in the terminal?
[02:46] <ggreer> and the hard drive activity is going crazy
[02:46] <presonic> ?
[02:47] <ggreer> oh sure. it goes on for 20 minutes but fixes itself immediately as soon as I complain about it on IRC
[02:47] <genious> once in terminal enter ' sudo top '
[02:47] <eskrima> hi im having a problem with the process of installing the windows drivers and some other components to make my wireless card work with ubuntu 12.04 so the first thing i was suggested to do its not working... .will copy and paste. please mind that i have already ndiswrapper and the nisgkt
[02:47] <genious> presoni it will show you all running processes
[02:47] <TJ-> rawrmonster: the best thing to do is create a virtual machine from an ubuntu server iso, and play about inside it
[02:47] <presonic> genious: i used 'ps uax | grep rhy' and it'll list the process
[02:48] <presonic> then i use kill -9 but it wont die
[02:48] <raj> hitsujiTMO, not a bad idea
[02:48] <genious> presonic dont use that... use the terminal
[02:48] <rawrmonster> TJ-: yea i was going to do that then mess up may computer and not get internet lol
[02:48] <ggreer> it's responsive again. hooray. load average spiked to 10
[02:48] <eskrima> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6934842/
[02:48] <eskrima> and
[02:49] <AKILES> hi people
[02:49] <TJ-> rawrmonster: playing inside the virtual machine won't affect your bare-metal install
[02:50] <eskrima> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6934851/
[02:50] <ggreer> is it normal for X to use 200MB of memory and compiz to use 128MB? (that's RSS, not virtual or anything)
[02:50] <rawrmonster> TJ- thank you again, and have a great day I'm going to log off
[02:50] <ianorlin> eskrima do you ahve software center open or synaptic package manager?
[02:52] <eskrima> ianorlin i think so
[02:52] <eskrima> let me see
[02:52] <eskrima> actualy what would the name be? ianorlin
[02:54] <eskrima> ianorlin i had problems since i bought this laptop with win 8 and the bios was messing up for me to install the ubuntu cd, so finally i fixed that and the wifi key doesnt work as well as the wifi connection is not being detected. sometimes it will work fine, but mostly not
[02:54] <eskrima> i installed the ndiswrapper and the nisgtk
[02:55] <eskrima> but i need to wrapp the windows network card to that so im stuck
[02:56] <eskrima> ianorlin im stuck now and dont know how to find the wireless card on ubuntu 12.04 lte and installit with ndiswrapper
[02:56] <ianorlin> if you have software center or synaptic open close it as apt-get won't work with those installed
[02:56] <ianorlin> the command should work then
[02:56] <eskrima> ianorlin what is the name of the software you
[02:56] <eskrima> i have a software center yes
[02:57] <eskrima> ianorlin but right now some updates are downloading.
[02:57] <ianorlin> you need to have it closed as apt-get doesn't work with both open
[02:57] <eskrima> ianorlin ooooh ok
[02:57] <ianorlin> ah wait for that to be done first then enter the command
[02:58] <eskrima> ianorlin so didyou saw my two links what i posted earlier? one of the are instructions on how to intall and wrapp the wireless forlinux. is that good for me to follow?
[02:58] <totesmuhgoats> hey guys
[02:58] <totesmuhgoats> is there a command for apt to have it reinstall every single installed package on the system?
[02:58] <presonic> had to log out to kill the process, doesn't make sense
[02:59] <presonic> can another process protect another process?  it was tied in to the gui?
[02:59] <totesmuhgoats> i have a pc where i found that my dimm slots were not working properly and i'm concerned about data corruption
[02:59] <presonic> kill -9 should be unstoppable, even if another process was protecting it it would end up with a pid
[02:59] <totesmuhgoats> now that i've replaced it i'd like to fetch a good copy of everything installed
[02:59] <ResidentBiscuit> totesmuhgoats: aptitude? This is a situation where backups are very important
[03:00] <bazhang> !clone | totesmuhgoats
[03:01] <ianorlin> I haven't personally followed it but it makes sense
[03:02] <eskrima> ianorlin i haven tried so many wasy (im still a linux beginner) but i dont kmnow any other way
[03:03] <eskrima> ianorlin its really p*******ing me off, that my new laptop cant work on wifi that i have at home...
[03:03] <ResidentBiscuit> How do I change the name of stuff in the Unity launcher?
[03:03] <ResidentBiscuit> For example, gedit shows up as "Text editor" when moused over. I want to change to say "gedit"
[03:03] <eskrima> ianorlin i meant i had tried so many ways, none it works
[03:03] <totesmuhgoats> ResidentBiscuit: i have backups of the user files, i just need a reinstall of all the installed packages, should be very doable
[03:03] <Bashing-om> totesmuhgoats: apt-get --reinstall `dpkg --get-selections | grep install | grep -v deinstall | cut -d' ' f1`
[03:03] <totesmuhgoats> Bashing-om: thanks, i'll try it out
[03:04] <eskrima> ianorlin be back, need to restart the pc
[03:04] <Bashing-om> Supposedly, it should reinstall every package installed on the system.
[03:04] <pac1> How do you copy an associative array?
[03:04] <mdh> pac1: which language
[03:04] <totesmuhgoats> Bashing-om: thanks, i'll look into the clone thing first and failing that i'll give that a try
[03:05] <Bashing-om> totesmuhgoats:  ;D
[03:09] <totesmuhgoats> i am not sure apt-clone is what i'm looking for
[03:10] <root___> what is apt-clone?
[03:11] <bluefox83> i need help sharing a printer to my network
[03:12] <bluefox83> it prints fine from the host machine running 12.04 but i don't know how to share it properly
[03:12] <SpartanS63> Anyone have experience with Nvidia Optimus laptops and multiple monitors?
[03:14] <totesmuhgoats> Bashing-om: would you mind explaining what the f1 does for cut?
[03:16] <totesmuhgoats> also my apt-get does not seem to accept the --reinstall argument
[03:16] <totesmuhgoats> i am on 12.04 so maybe it was added more recently?
[03:17] <kostkon> totesmuhgoats, apt-get install pckg_name --reinstall should work
[03:17] <Rallias> Is there a way to su to a user using a separate pty?
[03:17] <totesmuhgoats> kostkon: thanks
[03:19] <Bashing-om> totesmuhgoats: I do not recall off the top of my head, give me a bit to hunt up the info.
[03:20] <totesmuhgoats> Bashing-om: well the command doesn't seem to work for me, i think the arguments for cut are wrong
[03:20] <blenderman> .
[03:26] <jmad980> totesmuhgoats: what are you trying to do?
[03:29] <\x00> Sucks how Netflix does not work with Ubuntu.
[03:29] <eskrima> ianorlin what means this/??? http://paste.ubuntu.com/6934976/
[03:29] <kostkon> \x00, tried with pipelight?
[03:29] <\x00> pipelight?
[03:30] <hitsujiTMO> pipelight
[03:30] <\x00> apt-get pipelight?
[03:30] <hitsujiTMO> \x00: http://www.webupd8.org/2013/08/pipelight-use-silverlight-in-your-linux.html
[03:31] <eskrima> ianorlin i was doing this syntax here http://paste.ubuntu.com/6934988/
[03:31] <\x00> Oh I see, ok thanks!
[03:31] <eskrima> hi hitsujiTMO
[03:31] <hitsujiTMO> o/
[03:31] <eskrima> hitsujiTMO are you able to help me something please?
[03:32] <hitsujiTMO> eskrima: whats the problem?
[03:33] <hitsujiTMO> oh, wireless issues
[03:33] <eskrima> hitsujiTMO thankyou :) ok im installing the problem of the wireless (maybe you remember some time ago you helped me) so anyway i couldnt solve nothing and now im again doing,. i found a website that is following me through the wireless install. i laready installed ndiswrapper and ndisgkt. now im doing this http://paste.ubuntu.com/6934988/
[03:34] <eskrima> hitsujiTMO oh wow thankyou you remember!!!!!
[03:34] <bluefox83> exit
[03:34] <ianorlin> are you trying to open that file part of it?
[03:35] <eskrima> hitsujiTMO now im following this webstite
[03:35] <eskrima> hitsujiTMO http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2104690
[03:37] <eskrima> hitsujiTMO and i got this in the terminal http://paste.ubuntu.com/6935002/
[03:39] <hitsujiTMO> eskrima: thats a config not an executable. from the looks of it, its already configured like that so you can go ahead to the next step
[03:40] <eskrima> hitsujiTMO ok thanks will be doing now. lets see
[03:40] <ggreer> the brighten/dim buttons on my laptop aren't doing anything. in ubuntu, my laptop's screen stays at maximum brightness no matter what I do :(
[03:40] <ggreer> even if I go to settings -> power manager and try to mess with the brightness
[03:40] <ggreer> any idea on how to troubleshoot? it's a lenovo x140e
[03:41] <ggreer> oh, and if I press the brightness buttons, ubuntu's OSD shows up and moves the brightness indicator up and down
[03:42] <ggreer> but the actual backlight brightness stays the same
[03:42] <hitsujiTMO> ggreer: check the backlight kernel params here https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/backlight#ACPI ... if none of em work then you'll have to script the acpi events
[03:42] <darthanubis> vdpau+nvidia+recorded mpeg2= artifacts
[03:42] <ggreer> k
[03:43] <totesmuhgoats> jmad980: what are you doing here?
[03:43] <darthanubis> anyone have information related, or experiencing the same issues. I've seen it discussed briefly on the web, but nothing works for me except turning vdpau off.
[03:44] <totesmuhgoats> jmad980: i have an ubuntu system that I discovered had a bad motherboard (bad DIMM slots), so I replaced the board and now want to reinstall every single package on the system to make sure that I don't have corrupted binaries
[03:44] <eskrima> hitsujiTMO i saved some of your indications last time. unfortunatelly somehow i managed to save pieces and bits.. so i couldnt do anything or understand what was the process.  i was even lookin for you a couple of time for you here, but i guess the time difference from eu and pacific it was hard to find you haha!
[03:45] <hitsujiTMO> lol, you. btw, chat logs are online: http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2014/02/15/%23ubuntu.txt
[03:46] <hitsujiTMO> s/you/yup
[03:46] <pac1> mdh, better question: which open freenode channel... It was meant for #bash....
[03:47] <eskrima> hitsujiTMO did i did something wrong here ?
[03:47] <hitsujiTMO> eskrima: ?
[03:47] <eskrima> hitsujiTMO i was letting it run from the previous input, which i noticed it put me in the root
[03:47] <eskrima> hitsujiTMO sorry forgot to paste http://paste.ubuntu.com/6935030/
[03:48] <hitsujiTMO> eskrima: just a bad guide. start again: make clean. then exit the root
[03:49] <hitsujiTMO> eskrima: then when in non root, run make
[03:49] <eskrima> hitsujiTMO hmm ok i didnt know that its bad. how to exit root? and you mean start from the 1st  input?
[03:50] <eskrima> hitsujiTMO your explanation seemed faster and easier but ok.
[03:50] <hitsujiTMO> eskrima: before you exit, type: make clean                     then to exit: exit
[03:50] <hitsujiTMO> eskrima: after that run: make
[03:51] <eskrima> okk
[03:51] <hitsujiTMO> eskrima: pastebin the output of make please. it does look like its not compiling
[03:51] <eskrima> ok
[03:55] <eskrima> hitsujiTMO here u go http://paste.ubuntu.com/6935047/
[03:56] <eskrima> hitsujiTMO I just did make make clean
[03:56] <eskrima> and exit
[03:56] <eskrima> and input again
[03:57] <hitsujiTMO> eskrima: yup failing to compile :(
[03:59] <eskrima> hitsujiTMO hmm do u think is because its missing something? python:i386? or something else
[03:59] <hitsujiTMO> eskrima: no, prob kernel version or gcc version
[04:00] <hitsujiTMO> eskrima: is this 12.04?
[04:01] <eskrima> hitsujiTMO yes 12.04 lte
[04:01] <hitsujiTMO> eskrima: you could try installing a 3.2 kernel and building it with that
[04:02] <eskrima> hitsujiTMO so that means install 3.2 kernel and restart the procedure over again? where do i fid 3.2 kernel?
[04:02] <osmodivs> Hello, whe I try to record a video from Youtube with RECORMYDESKTOP GTK, all I see is a green screen, how do I fix it?
[04:04] <bazhang> osmodivs, just download the youtube video insteas
[04:04] <Stainedhat> osmodivs: Youtube-dl
[04:04] <bazhang> firefox video download helper does it as well
[04:04] <Stainedhat> osmodivs: apt-cache search youtube-dl
[04:04] <osmodivs> Well, I am not trying to download videos, just record stuff, like when playing an emulator or other thing, and then record it
[04:05] <bazhang> osmodivs, then check out kazam
[04:05] <Bashing-om> totesmuhgoats: I have not been ignoring your request, still pursuing a solution.
[04:05] <bazhang> why not aptoncd totesmuhgoats
[04:05] <bazhang> !aptoncd
[04:06] <bazhang> or clonezilla if you want to go that route
[04:07] <hitsujiTMO> eskrima: linux-image-3.2.0-58-generic is the lastest 3.2 kernel. install that from the repo... as well as the headers linux-headers-3.2.0-58-generic linux-headers-3.2.0-58             then boot to it and test to make sure everything works. then restart the process for building the wifi module
[04:08] <hitsujiTMO> eskrima: i'm afraid i have to head to bed, so good luck. i should be back on tomorrow at some stage anyhow
[04:08] <eskrima> hitsujiTMO excuse my ignorance, but before u go whrere are the repo?
[04:09] <eskrima> hitsujiTMO thanks a lot will try ti\o work with it. good night!!
[04:10] <hitsujiTMO> eskrima: repos = what you install stuff from when you go: sudo apt-get install blaaaarg    so just sudo apt-get install linux-image-3.2.0-58-generic linux-headers-3.2.0-58-generic linux-headers-3.2.0-58                                       you can then boot to that specific kernel from the grub boot menu
[04:10] <osmodivs> Kazam just wont open...
[04:10] <arashb> ive got ubuntu installed on a sd card for my raspberry pi. if ive lost my password, how can i reset it? I can modify files on the sd card directly through my pc
[04:11] <eskrima> hitsujiTMO okk will try to do it. thanks againnn!take care good night!
[04:11] <hitsujiTMO> eskrima: gnight!
[04:12] <kostkon> osmodivs, try vokoscreen. are you trying to record your desktop ?
[04:12] <osmodivs> kostkon, Yes, but while opening youtube videos and other websites
[04:13] <kostkon> osmodivs, ok. try with vokoscreen then
[04:13] <osmodivs> kostkon, So far Recordmydesktop GTK and Kazam have failed at this
[04:13] <osmodivs> kostkon, Have you tried that one before? because I just cant keep downloading stuff randomly
[04:14] <kostkon> osmodivs, yes, i've used it a couple of times
[04:14] <osmodivs> kostkon, Is not even in Synaptic...
[04:14] <fathin> eskrima can u boot up to grub?
[04:14] <kostkon> osmodivs, i know
[04:15] <eericu> hola
[04:16] <kostkon> osmodivs, http://iloveubuntu.net/how-install-vokoscreen-18-ubuntu-1204-lts-ubuntu-1210-ubuntu-1304-and-ubuntu-1310
[04:16] <SonikkuAmerica> eericu: Hola, si hablas español /join #ubuntu-es para recibir ayuda. ¡Gracias!
[04:19] <fathin> arashb can u boot up to grub?
[04:24] <osmodivs> kostkon, Tampoco funciona, pantalla verde
[04:24] <osmodivs> parece que nada funciona
[04:24] <mojtaba> Hi, I am running three instances of an application, how can I find which PID is related to which one?
[04:24] <kostkon> osmodivs, is that spanish? can't read it
[04:24] <osmodivs> RECORDMYDESKTOPgtk, Kazam, Vokosscreen no funcionan
[04:24] <osmodivs> kostkon, Oh, yeah. sorry :P
[04:25] <osmodivs> they just dont work
[04:25] <osmodivs> All I get is a green screen
[04:25] <osmodivs> Green screen of death I call it
[04:26] <kostkon> osmodivs, it could be a graphics card driver problem. btw what desktop environment are you using
[04:28] <osmodivs> kostkon,  LXDE
[04:29] <totesmuhgoats> bazhang: i don't think you understand what i'm asking
[04:29] <totesmuhgoats> Bashing-om: i found something that is helpful, aptitude reinstall '~i'
[04:30] <totesmuhgoats> it's not going well though, for some reason it reports a bunch of packages aren't installed that very obviously are
[04:30] <MACscr> if i installed something with apt-get and then later added another repo that had newer version of that application, why would apt-get update, then apt-get upgrade omd, not upgrade it? apt-get install omd shows the newer version
[04:30] <totesmuhgoats> so I am just going to blow away the install and start over
[04:30] <totesmuhgoats> Bashing-om: thanks for helping me look for a solution though
[04:32] <Bashing-om>  totesmuhgoats; still , we need to operate on all installed packages, I have yet to find the fallacy in the code I gave, ( cut is a POSIX inbuilt function).
[04:32] <kostkon> osmodivs, last but not least simple screen recorder. im recommending you this because it can record opengl windows, if you select opengl as the video input. why not give it a try.
[04:33] <kostkon> osmodivs, http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2013/12/simple-screen-recorder-linux
[04:33] <totesmuhgoats> Bashing-om: would you like to see the output I get when i run it?
[04:33] <cashnguns> I recently updated 12.04 and also firefox.  Firefox locks up every time i open it and open more than 1 window.  tried reinstalling Firefox and also turning off hardware acceleration ...what else should I try? going down to a older version?
[04:34] <\x00> I installed some kali repositorys to ubuntu
[04:35] <\x00> I do not have all the pen testing tools, but I guess I am ok with this distro for now
[04:36] <totesmuhgoats> Bashing-om: it says cut: you must specify a list of bytes, characters, or fields
[04:36] <totesmuhgoats> maybe you can't pipe output to cut?
[04:37] <Stainedhat> What are you missing \x00?
[04:38] <kostkon> cashnguns, does it lock up when you start it in safe mode? help -> restart with addons disabled
[04:39] <eskrima> fathin what do you mean i dont know how to du
[04:39] <eskrima> do
[04:40] <fathin> no, wrong person sry
[04:41] <eskrima> fathin im more of a beginner linux and i woldnt know how to do it
[04:41] <eskrima> i actually bought a new laptop with the win 8 preinstalled
[04:42] <MACscr> sorry to hear that
[04:43] <eskrima> fathin the bios were totaly different and i had a really really hard time installin ubuntu on with the original ubuntu 12.10 cd. it didnt want to boot, delet win or install ubuntu. really a disaster. than somehow i figured how to disable secure boot and thats how i downloaded the 12.04 because my ubuntu 12.10 cd doesnt work. i dont know if its even good cd. so i downloaded 12.04 and since then my wireless adaptor (internal) doesnt
[04:44] <lotuspsychje> eskrima: wifi adapter chipset?
[04:44] <eskrima> fathin even the button doesnt work . the wifi its seems to be disconnected by the hardware switch. so so far i have installed ndsiwrapper and ndisgkt
[04:44] <eskrima> yeah lotuspsychje
[04:45] <lotuspsychje> eskrima: did you connect internet during setup and install updates?
[04:45] <eskrima> lotuspsychje i was now at the point where i was following this instrucitons http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2104690
[04:45] <Bashing-om> totesmuhgoats: Think I got it, ->-f1 Using (-f) option, you are specifying the extraction field number. (In this example its 1 i.e. first field). so -> make "cut -d' ' f1` to be ->"cut -d' '-f1`" Place the '-' before 'f1' ....
[04:45] <eskrima> and i got this.... .paste.ubuntu.com/6935047/
[04:46] <eskrima> lotuspsychje and supposedly is compaling to file
[04:46] <lotuspsychje> eskrima: do you have a ralink chipset?
[04:47] <lotuspsychje> eskrima: can you plugin an internet cable to do updates?
[04:47] <lotuspsychje> !details | eskrima
[04:47] <totesmuhgoats> maybe you can't pipe output to cut?
[04:47] <totesmuhgoats> ignore that
[04:48] <totesmuhgoats> Bashing-om: i am getting invalid operation somepackagename
[04:48] <eskrima> lotuspsychje hmm i think it came with the laptop (internal) the wifi was working fine with the win 8. also i dont remember if i connected to the internet during setup
[04:48] <totesmuhgoats> i don't believe my apt-get takes an argument --reinstall
[04:48] <eskrima> lotuspsychje yeah i can connect lan, and usb thet
[04:49] <lotuspsychje> eskrima: try an internet cable right now and update, might get your latest wifi drivers
[04:49] <SonikkuAmerica> totesmuhgoats: It doesn't hurt to try: [ sudo apt-get install --reinstall $PACKAGE ]
[04:49] <eskrima> also sometims the wifi magically works
[04:49] <totesmuhgoats> SonikkuAmerica: thanks
[04:49] <Bashing-om> totesmuhgoats: I am sure it does, let me go back and RE-examine, It should work, (should!!).
[04:49] <totesmuhgoats> Bashing-om: now we have a new problem
[04:49] <totesmuhgoats> so cut now is syntactically correct
[04:49] <eskrima> lotuspsychje did already,
[04:49] <totesmuhgoats> but doesn't remove the stuff after the delimeter specified
[04:50] <totesmuhgoats> so it thinks the "install" on every line is a pakage
[04:50] <totesmuhgoats> and i get a ton of lines that say unable to locate package install
[04:50] <lotuspsychje> eskrima: pastebin output of lshw -C network please
[04:50] <eskrima> im about to get kernel 3.2 and go follow again from start the link i gavbe u
[04:52] <eskrima> lotuspsychje http://paste.ubuntu.com/6935233/
[04:53] <eskrima> lotuspsychje what is thge command to get out of root in terminal?
[04:53] <potatoe> where is efivars?
[04:53] <potatoe> i cant find it
[04:53] <potatoe> modprobe efivars doesnt do anything
[04:53] <potatoe> even when i do  lsmod
[04:54] <lotuspsychje> eskrima: did you type something wrong? lshw -C network
[04:54] <totesmuhgoats> Bashing-om: here's what works aptitude reinstall '~i'
[04:54] <totesmuhgoats> it selects all the packages and tries to reinstall
[04:54] <eskrima> loyuspsychje im in the root currently.. how do i get back
[04:55] <totesmuhgoats> but it ails because "I wasn't able to locate a file for the ____ package. This might mean you need to manually fix the package."
[04:55] <lotuspsychje> !sudo | eskrima
[04:55] <totesmuhgoats> if I manually reinstall then it gives the that error for a different package
[04:57] <Stainedhat> eskrima: if you did su or sudo -I or sudo -s just type exit.. if you're in the /root directory just type cd to change to your home directory.. if you just used sudo for a single command you don't need to do anything. I'm not sure exactly what you're asking
[04:57] <eskrima> lotuspsychje
[04:57] <eskrima> me neither :)
[04:57] <eskrima> ok got it
[04:57] <Stainedhat> Haha well, that makes two of us.. cheers
[04:58] <eskrima> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6935243/
[04:58] <eskrima> stainedhat i do but at the same time dont know hpo\ow to explain
[04:59] <Stainedhat> eskrima: no worries.. as long as one of the answers worked you're good to go
[04:59] <eskrima> actually we are still figuring out stainedhat
[05:00] <eskrima> stainedhat let me tell you
[05:00] <Stainedhat> eskrima: sure, I'll try to help.. explain your problem again please
[05:01] <eskrima> another user that just left 30 min ago told me to install 3.2 kernel and than start from the beginning the process i was working on. the thing is that my wifi is not wrking since i installed ubuntu 12.04. i wrote more details just l ittle bit above here if you want you can see so its more easy to understand
[05:02] <eskrima> stainedhat this is the process i was working on earlier when i got a problem on my laptop that the command doesnt work so hitsujiTMO recommended to install 3.2 kernel and start over. link here http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2104690
[05:03] <Stainedhat> Are you using network manager or another 3rd party app such as wicd?
[05:04] <Stainedhat> eskrima: ahh gotcha Ok, so where in the process are you getting errors or having problems?
[05:05] <eskrima> stainedhat both haha
[05:05] <eskrima> the terminal is giving me erros i willpaste for you
[05:06] <Stainedhat> Ok, lemme take a look at the errors and we'll go from there
[05:07] <eskrima> stainedhat here the errors when i went to do this cd ~/DPO_RT3290_LinuxSTA_V2600_20120508... it gave me this report paste.ubuntu.com/6935047/
[05:07] <eskrima> paste.ubuntu.com/6935047/
[05:08] <eskrima> stainedhat here http://paste.ubuntu.com/6935286/
[05:09] <eskrima> stainedhat someone here earlier said that is failing to compile...
[05:09] <eskrima> stainedhat thats why i was suggested to get the 3.2 kernel and go from there
[05:10] <eskrima> stainedhat sorry my ignorance but im a begginer in linux
[05:10] <Stainedhat> Yes, it appears to be due to the headers you have installed.. run sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r) then try and make it again
[05:11] <Stainedhat> This should install the 3.2 headers
[05:11] <Stainedhat> Tell me what the output of "sudo uname -r" is please
[05:11] <lotuspsychje> eskrima: your driver looks good, but your network says: disabled
[05:12] <lotuspsychje> eskrima: you sure your network isnt disabled in bios or hardware switch?
[05:12] <chikis> hola
[05:12] <lotuspsychje> !es | chikis
[05:12] <eskrima> stainedhat yeah ok so to get out of root and to go to sudo i just type sudo?
[05:13] <eskrima> lotuspsychje yeah already checked
[05:13] <chikis> ubuntu-es
[05:13] <eskrima> its the laptop tripping out.
[05:13] <chikis> #ubuntu-es
[05:13] <eskrima> its disabled by the hardware switch. not even the wifi button doesnt work on the keyboard
[05:14] <eskrima> stainedhat so how do i get to sudo// my terminal is currently in root
[05:14] <Stainedhat> If you're in root just run the commands without sudo.
[05:14] <eskrima> i used to have sudo before this problem im working on now
[05:14] <lotuspsychje> eskrima: try the ##hardware channel to troubleshoot bios wifi options for your machine
[05:15] <eskrima> stainedhat but will that prevent me to be better installation as with sudo
[05:15] <eskrima> lotuspsychje will try thanks
[05:16] <Stainedhat> Wait what? Sudo is just "superuser do".. root is the superuser in Linux. If you run something with sudo you are basically just telling the system to run it as root. If you're already at a root prompt (#) then sudo is irrelevant
[05:16] <eskrima> stainedhat hold on im doing the command as you said with the sudo uname -r ... so i type sudo uname -r exactly like that or my name?? :)
[05:17] <Stainedhat> Type exactly "sudo uname -r"
[05:17] <eskrima> stainedhat ooooohhh T.T
[05:17] <eskrima> stainedhat ok hold on now will try what you said
[05:17] <Stainedhat> Or uname -r if you're already at a root prompt
[05:17] <Stainedhat> K
[05:18] <Bashing-om> totesmuhgoats: see:http://hyperlogos.org/page/Restoring-Permissions-Debian-System ; http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-40573.html <-confirms we are on the right track.
[05:20] <eskrima> stainedhad http://paste.ubuntu.com/6935321/
[05:21] <eskrima> ##hardware
[05:21] <nathaneltitane> hello,
[05:21] <nathaneltitane> i would like to open a subshell as gdm in a bash script to automate gdm modifications
[05:22] <Stainedhat> You're still on the 3.8 kernel. I don't know why the other person had you downgrade to 3.2 but maybe there is something I don't know. And you're sure you followed all the directions in that post and didn't miss any steps?
[05:23] <eskrima> one step i couldn do was     cd ~
[05:23] <totesmuhgoats> Bashing-om: well the system is a living room system that is fairly static, i'll probably just blow the install away and reinstall since it wouldn't be very much work
[05:24] <eskrima> stainedhat that step it didnt allow me to do, it just skipped
[05:25] <eskrima> stainedhat do u suggest that i start over from begining
[05:25] <Stainedhat> That just changes directory to your home dir.. are you using Kali Linux?
[05:26] <eskrima> no
[05:26] <eskrima> stainedhat ubuntu 12.04 lts
[05:27] <Stainedhat> Ok, I noticed Kali in the hostname and wondered.. I would start over from the very beginning and make sure you have all dependencies installed
[05:27] <eskrima> stainedhat as you previously saw since i bought a new laptop it came with windows 8 and i very different bios. not gui
[05:27] <Stainedhat> Yeah uefi right?
[05:27] <eskrima> stainedhat kali is a hindu goddes and a martial art. but i also learned that is something with thelinux to do
[05:28] <eskrima> stainedhat so when i tried all the possible ways to understand the new bios and run as usually everyone is used to run programms and softwares, especially os cd via cd
[05:28] <Stainedhat> Well, there is a security based distro names kali which is what I thought you may be running. It's not super stable which is why I was asking
[05:28] <n^izzo> hey all, I have an alias that reloads the bashrc (source ~/.bashrc) is there any way to stop it printing to the terminal?
[05:29] <madoka> join #linuxbar
[05:29] <eskrima> stainedhat mine wasnt even being recognized. the bios that i got is really poor and only little options
[05:29] <eskrima> stainedhat yes
[05:29] <rogi1> any idea how to fix this(from boot.log)? start-stop-daemon: unable to chdir() to /home/igor/.couchpotato (No such fil    e or directory)
[05:29] <Stainedhat> n^izzo: You could echo the output to /dev/null
[05:29] <eskrima> stainedhat are you able to remote and check what is wrong?
[05:30] <n^izzo> Stainedhat: at the moment I have it going to /dev/null - 'echo "1" > .bashrcpl & source ~/.bashrc 2>/dev/null'
[05:30] <dalit> hi guys
[05:31] <n^izzo> hey
[05:31] <dalit> im having trouble with magnet links in transmission , when ever i open a magnet link from my browser it pops up an "LAUNCH APPLICATION WINDOW" where i have to select an application
[05:31] <dalit> but what to select , i dont know
[05:32] <Stainedhat> eskrima: I'm on my phone right now but I could probably switch to my desktop in a bit. Try running through the instructions fresh one more time and if it doesn't work I'll try and take a look for you. You'd have to run team viewer or open ssh or something for me to connect though
[05:32] <bazhang> dalit, the transmission binary
[05:32] <Stainedhat> dalit: maybe run "which transmission" w
[05:33] <Stainedhat> dalit: sorry hit enter too soon.. run that command then browse to the location it outputs and select the transmission binary
[05:33] <eskrima> stainedhat i think i have teamviewr but never used on linux, just windows i know how. ok let me know will wait and try again from the beginning
[05:34] <n^izzo> dalit: the binary is in /usr/bin/
[05:34] <dalit> Stainedhat : can u repeat the command clearly in "  "
[05:35] <Stainedhat> Yeah team viewer has a .deb for Linux. If you download from their site go to previous versions and get version 8.x for either 32bit or 64bit. Don't download 9 cause my corporate license is only good for 8
[05:35] <Bashing-om> totesmuhgoats: still an interesting situation to resolve, but not tonight, My brain is turning mushy and I am done for this session.
[05:35] <n^izzo> dalit: its called transmitssion-gtk
[05:36] <dalit> n^izzo : there is nothing named transmission in my usr/bin
[05:36] <Stainedhat> dalit: run "which transmission" from a terminal and it will tell you where the binary is
[05:36] <Stainedhat> eskrima: which command?;
[05:37] <eskrima> stainedhat teamviewer im gettin now?
[05:37] <dalit> Stainedhat : it dosnt returns anything...
[05:37] <eskrima> im on their website
[05:38] <dalit> n^izzo : i went ti fileSystem/bin and could'nt find transmission
[05:38] <Stainedhat> dalit: how did you install transmission?
[05:39] <n^izzo> dalit: make sure transmission is installed
[05:40] <dalit> n^izzo : of course it is. I have used it multiple times to downlaod .torrent files in past
[05:40] <n^izzo> dalit: ok but I dont know that
[05:40] <dalit> Stainedhat : apt-get install transmission
[05:40] <Stainedhat> eskrima: just hover over download and select previous version.. then 8.x on the right hand side.. then choose your .deb package and download it.. from the terminal run "dpkg -i <name of team viewer .deb package>"
[05:41] <eskrima> ok hold on because im slow here haha
[05:41] <Stainedhat> dalit: open a terminal and type transmiss then hit tab.. whatever that tab completetion produces is the name of the binary.. type "which <whatever tranmiss+tab reported>"
[05:42] <eskrima> stainedhat can i hover over v9 first or i should find v8?
[05:42] <Stainedhat> Actually hang on lemme remote to my desktop then I'll find out what the name is
[05:42] <will_b> hi guys, was wondering if you could help me on installing some opengl libs...
[05:42] <n^izzo> dalit: another option is to do "find / -name transmission-gtk 2>/dev/null"
[05:42] <eskrima> kul thanks
[05:43] <Stainedhat> eskrima: hover over the download option at the top of the page.. it should produce another menu that has download "previous versions"
[05:43] <eskrima> ok
[05:45] <Stainedhat> dalit: type "which transmission-gtk" that will tell you where the bin is
[05:45] <dalit> n^izzo : it gave http://paste.ubuntu.com/6935392/plain/
[05:46] <dalit> Stainedhat : refer http://paste.ubuntu.com/6935392/plain/ ,something i found
[05:46] <eskrima> stainedhat ok im downloading/saving it now. so next is the command i give to terminal as you said???
[05:47] <angelllls> 大家好
[05:47] <Stainedhat> eskrima: "sudo dpkg -i <name of deb file>" from the directory where you save the deb file.
[05:48] <Stainedhat> Obviously substitute <name of deb file> with the name of the downloaded team viewer .deb file
[05:48] <dalit> Stainedhat : n^izzo : if that link dosnt work http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=Fg7rUgeW
[05:48] <eskrima> stainedhat sorry i have problems with this. i actually didnt saved it yet nowhere. it usually downloads to the "downloads folder" by itself. so now i have to copy paste and go to /etc and create a file to save it there or???
[05:49] <bazhang> !cn | apple
[05:49] <n^izzo> dalit: read the second to last entry
[05:49] <black_angel> apple: u r joking?
[05:49] <n^izzo> dalit: as I said it is in /usr/bin/transmission-gtk
[05:49] <Stainedhat> dalit: it's /user/bin/transmission-gtk
[05:50] <Stainedhat> No just run the dpkg command from downloads where the file is
[05:50] <dalit> Stainedhat : ok wait iwill get u something
[05:50] <n^izzo> shortp
[05:51] <Stainedhat> dalit: when the window pops up in Firefox just browse to File System>/usr/bin/transmission-gtk
[05:51] <osmar> oi
[05:52] <n^izzo> how do I suppress all output of a command, I have tried "2>/dev/null" but I still get output
[05:52] <wazyl> Windows - Just installed Ubuntu 13.10 64 bit, dual booting - every once in awhile when booting into Windows, USB mouse and keyboard won't work - what's the deal ?
[05:52] <eskrima> stainedhat it says that dpkg: error processing teamviewer (--install):  cannot access archive: No such file or directory dpkg: error processing 8.x.deb (--install):
[05:52]  * Guest97141 <love>
[05:53] <eskrima> stainedhat i typed this sudo dpkg -i teamviewer 8.x.deb file
[05:53] <dalit> Stainedhat : n^izzo :  got it well and clean , thanks a lot !
[05:53] <will_b> xubuntu - trying to install freeglut3-dev, libsdl1.2-dev, and getting a message to remove  libgl1-mesa-dev:i386, libx11-xcb-dev:i386, mesa-common-dev:i386 and I was wondering if that was safe
[05:54] <Stainedhat> n^izzo: command 2>&1 /dev/null
[05:55] <Stainedhat> eskrima: what is the exact name of the .deb file?
[05:56] <eskrima> stainedhat teamviewer 8.x?
[05:56] <eskrima> stainedhat this download from the website went to the folder "downloads" automaticly
[05:57] <Stainedhat> In downloads type "ls teamview*" and tell me what it outputs
[05:57] <Stainedhat> Make sure you type the *
[05:57] <eskrima> stainedhat idont know what is .deb file ... :(
[05:58] <eskrima> ok
[05:58] <n^izzo> Stainedhat: that made it worse :P
[05:59] <n^izzo> Stainedhat: now I get 2 lines of text
[06:00] <eskrima> stainedhat i went to the folder downloads and doesnt find nothing..
[06:00] <eskrima> stainedhat as well as in the terminal
[06:00] <eskrima> stainedhat but i noticed if i type ssh into the terminal it gives me out some data.. you need that ?
[06:02] <Stainedhat> n^izzo: damn sorry man, didn't mean to make it worse.. are you in a bash shell?
[06:02] <Stainedhat> One sec eskrima
[06:02] <n^izzo> Stainedhat: its all good
[06:02] <eskrima> stainedhad i didnt told you yet that i didnt set up the teamviewer yet ... uff
[06:02] <eskrima> okk
[06:03] <n^izzo> Stainedhat: I'm writing a bash script (.bashrc)
[06:03] <eskrima> stainedhat.. ohhh sorry i downloaded the windowns verision... ok will hold
[06:03] <Stainedhat> n^izzo: try this.. "command &> /dev/null" that should work
[06:04] <n^izzo> Stainedhat: the line in question is alias longp='echo "0" > .bashrcpl & source ~/.bashrc 2>/dev/null'
[06:04] <wazyl> Windows 7 - Just installed Ubuntu 13.10 64 bit, dual booting - every once in awhile when booting into Windows, USB mouse and keyboard won't work - what's the deal ?
[06:04] <daftykins> i'd blame your system not Ubuntu
[06:04] <daftykins> :)
[06:04] <Stainedhat> eskrima: is your system 64bit or 32 bit?
[06:05] <daftykins> do they work after replugging?
[06:05] <n^izzo> wazyl: I have had the same issue, I just turn it off and on again or unplug the mouse and kb and plug them back in
[06:05] <wazyl> n^izzo: fuck that shit.
[06:05] <eskrima> 64bit stainedhat.. sorry i messed up i m downloading and setting up the llinux version. i did download the windows by accident
[06:05] <n^izzo> wazyl: LOL
[06:06] <mojtaba> Hi, I am running three instances of an application, how can I find which PID is related to which one?
[06:06] <Stainedhat> n^izzo: I think there may be issues with that command.. what is it outputting?
[06:06] <eskrima> stainedhat now its installed let me run that again what you asked before with ....somehign's
[06:06] <eskrima> something
[06:06] <n^izzo> Stainedhat: mine is outputing "[1] 6057"
[06:07] <wazyl> Ubuntu is about to get the uninstall and Slackware is about to get the install.
[06:07] <wazyl> http://askubuntu.com/questions/320065/all-usb-ports-stop-working-when-booting-windows-after-using-ubuntu
[06:07] <n^izzo> Stainedhat: your dose the same "[1] 6201"
[06:07] <Stainedhat> eskrima: let me know one you have run "dpkg -i team viewer_Linux_x64.deb"
[06:08] <`Tbird`> enjoy
[06:09] <Stainedhat> Hold on guys lemme switch to my desktop.. too much multitasking for the phone right now haha.. brb
[06:09] <eskrima> stainedhat it says not such file in directory
[06:10] <n^izzo> mojtaba: you can do "top -A"
[06:10] <Stainedhat> ok, back
[06:11] <Stainedhat> n^izzo: can you repeat that command please? sorry to make you type it so manyt imes but now I'm on a different system
[06:11] <Stainedhat> eskrima: did you get it installed?
[06:11] <eskrima> stainedhat yes haha i feel so dumb
[06:11] <n^izzo> mojtaba: "top -A" it will sort by age then you can kill the oldest middle youngest... depending on what one you want to kill
[06:11] <eskrima> i have a code for
[06:11] <eskrima> you
[06:12] <wazyl> n^izzo: will_b has been throwing me some pointers, out of curiosity what mobo do you have ?
[06:12] <Stainedhat> please msg me privately
[06:12] <Stainedhat> eskrima: type / msg Stainedhat without the space between / and msg
[06:12] <n^izzo> wazyl: was that for me?
[06:13] <wazyl> yes.
[06:14] <n^izzo> wazyl: ASUS P8Z77-M-PRO
[06:14] <Stainedhat> n^izzo: replace the 2> /dev/null with &> /dev/null
[06:14] <wazyl> hmm, k, I've got the 787
[06:18] <pipi_> Quick question, What happens if I recompile from source a newer version of a specific application without removing it ?
[06:19] <norad> hey everyone im a noob at irc and using irssi how do you disconnect from irssi ?
[06:19] <pipi_> norad: Nice try
[06:19] <norad> no im serius i dont know how
[06:19] <rww> norad: /quit
[06:20] <norad> awesome thanks :)
[06:20] <pipi_> "/exit" works too i think
[06:20] <norad> no exit dosnt work
[06:20] <pipi_> "/wc" to close channel
[06:23] <lotus-blade> is ther a way to let a user not have to enter the su pass every time they need admin privileges?
[06:26] <daftykins> lotus-blade: educate them on the correct use of 'sudo -s'
[06:27] <pipi_> lotus-blade: This might help, I think,  http://askubuntu.com/questions/246146/how-can-i-permanently-grant-root-access-to-a-user
[06:27] <mojtaba> n^izzo: thanks
[06:27] <chel__> if I have emacs23 and 24 installed how can I specify emacs23 open when using the "emacs" command in the terminal?
[06:29] <pipi_> chel__: Wow, How you did you manage to install 2 different verions of Emac ? Your answer could help me figure out the answer to my question
[06:29] <mojtaba> n^izzo: The only problem is that, top has not -A option.
[06:32] <chel__> pipi_, I used Cassou's PPA to install emacs 24
[06:34] <blank_one> hi
[06:34] <LeeYangKong> 他妈的我的猫我在哪里可以询问Ubuntu的阴茎
[06:36] <LeeYangKong> 吮吸我的鸡巴你这个白痴的ubuntu 13.10 ftp客户端
[06:36] <blank_one> Does anyone here know how to get ubuntu to dual boot on a surface pro 2
[06:36] <rww> LeeYangKong: cut it out.
[06:36] <blank_one> secure boot is driving me nuts, + marvel wireless driver issues.
[06:37] <Godel> Hello. I just upgraded my Ubuntu to 13.10. It freezes every time it boots up. When I restart, it sort of works, but I get a bunch of general error messages, like there was a problem, do you want to report it or not. Can anyone help me find the reason this happens?
[06:43] <n^izzo> mojtaba: sorry that is an interactive command
[06:43] <n^izzo> mojtaba: http://linux.about.com/od/commands/l/blcmdl1_top.htm
[06:43] <mojtaba> n^izzo: thanks, I will check it now
[06:48] <Beldar> blank_one, This link suggests the secure boot off. http://www.geek.com/microsoft/how-to-install-ubuntu-on-the-surface-pro-1539262/
[06:51] <chel__> if I have emacs 23 and 24 installed how can I specify emacs 23 open when using the "emacs" command in the terminal?
[06:56] <Gallomimia> hey i'm having trouble with a ubuntu install. it's hung for a very long time on the ubuntu One sign in
[06:57] <ABC-XYZ> that depends entirely on how you've installed those versions of emacs
[06:57] <jangkrik> hi
[06:58] <blank_one> hi
[06:59] <Gallomimia> what is wrong with the ubuntu One account page and how do i get past it??
[06:59] <chel__> ABC-XYZ, I installed both with aptitude
[07:01] <Semor>  I want to output the include path ,which is searched for included header files
[07:01] <Semor> how to do that ?
[07:02] <ABC-XYZ> looking at the package, apparently emacs24 is the name of the binary
[07:02] <ABC-XYZ> used in the version 24 package
[07:02] <ABC-XYZ> so 'emacs' will open 23, 'emacs24' 24
[07:03] <chel__> but it's not
[07:03] <_nedr> Hello.. whenever i restart from windows and go into ubuntu... it cannot mount  my shared data partition... I have to boot again into windows, restart without logging in... for Ubuntu to be able to access the drive.. how to fix this?
[07:03] <chel__> just using emacs opens 24
[07:06] <ABC-XYZ> probably your default emacs symlink points to version 24
[07:06] <ABC-XYZ> in that case emacs23 will open version 23
[07:07] <chel__> is there a way to change it?
[07:07] <ABC-XYZ> try ls -l `which emacs`
[07:09] <ABC-XYZ> to change it, try man update-alternatives
[07:11] <Whizkid> Hey Guys!
[07:11] <SonikkuAmerica> Uh-oh -- uh, er, Hi!
[07:11] <SonikkuAmerica> :)
[07:11] <Whizkid> I love ubuntu :)
[07:12] <blackboxcoder> yeah, with xfce ;)
[07:12] <Whizkid> u mean xubuntu??
[07:12] <blackboxcoder> yip ;)
[07:13] <_nedr> Hello.. whenever i restart from windows and go into ubuntu... it cannot mount  my shared data partition... I have to boot again into windows, restart without logging in... for Ubuntu to be able to access the drive.. how to fix this?
[07:13] <Whizkid> Yeah! me too. i love the plymouth/splash screen. <3
[07:13] <Whizkid> Are u using Win 8??
[07:14] <ABC-XYZ> "update-alternatives --config emacs" will do
[07:14] <SonikkuAmerica> _nedr: What file system type is your shared partition?
[07:15] <chel__> ABC-XYZ, awesome, ty!
[07:15] <_nedr> SonikkuAmerica,  thanks for reply ... NTFS
[07:16] <SonikkuAmerica> _nedr: You're trying to mount your NTFS partition?
[07:16] <hrolf> Hi #ubuntu, is there any way I can prevent my files/folders from being deleted accidentally?
[07:16] <Whizkid> Back it up. :)
[07:16] <SonikkuAmerica> hrolf: Don't use Shift+Delete? ... other than that what Whizkid said.
[07:17] <hrolf> Sometimes you're supposed to be deleting just one single file and by chance you delete a folder (which may have thousands of file in it.)
[07:17] <_nedr> SonikkuAmerica, yes... i have set it up to automount the Data partition... when i boot from windows to ubuntu... it gets stuck at boot asking to Skip mounting or attempt Manual recovery
[07:17] <SonikkuAmerica> _nedr: What Windows version are you using?
[07:17] <_nedr> Windows 8
[07:18] <Whizkid> Thats the problem. Same thing here.
[07:18] <hrolf> Whizkid: The data is just too much to backup, but not important enough to buy any backup solution (another disk etc.)
[07:18] <SonikkuAmerica> _nedr: Did you turn off Fast Startup, Intel Smart Response Technology, and hibernation?
[07:18] <_nedr> SonikkuAmerica, err no i didn't no idea  what half of those things are
[07:18] <SonikkuAmerica> _nedr: (Being a Windows 8.1 user I can relate to the heinous process)
[07:18] <hrolf> Something like it asks your password for deletion (for a specific folder etc) ?
[07:18] <_nedr> I don't use hibernate i just shutdown and restart
[07:19] <SonikkuAmerica> _nedr: I'll walk you through it. First, boot into Windows if you haven't already. (Then rejoin the channel.)
[07:19] <_nedr> hrolf, save the important folders as root?
[07:19] <BentFranklin> What's a good file hosting website software package, a la the Gallery photo sharing softare, but for file hosting?
[07:19] <_nedr> BentFranklin, UbuntuOne?
[07:20] <hrolf> _nedr: Okay. I have a folder which I want to protect, now how do I make it such that no deletion/cut occurs (without asking for password) ?
[07:20] <BentFranklin> _nedr: I want the softare to run on my server.
[07:20] <hrolf> But new files may be written.
[07:20] <SonikkuAmerica> _nedr: Are you in Windows now?
[07:21] <Godel> Hello. I just upgraded my Ubuntu to 13.10. It freezes every time it boots up. When I restart, it sort of works, but I get a bunch of general error messages, like there was a problem, do you want to report it or not. Can anyone help me find the reason this happens?
[07:21] <Gallomimia> seriously now. this installer has been hung for 20+ minutes. how can i bypass the ubuntu One screen??
[07:22] <SonikkuAmerica> Godel: Who knows. Just make sure you run [ sudo apt-get dist-upgrade ] to make sure everything is up to date on your system. If they show up again, just hit Cancel.
[07:22] <_nedr> SonikkuAmerica, yeah sorry.. but my windows is messed up can't access net
[07:22] <_nedr> hrolf : http://stackoverflow.com/questions/869536/linux-directory-permissions-read-write-but-not-delete
[07:22] <_nedr> SonikkuAmerica, if you can links to page of instructions that would be fine.. or ill google disabling Fast Startup and Intel smart response
[07:23] <Godel> ok
[07:24] <SonikkuAmerica> _nedr: http://www.eightforums.com/tutorials/6320-fast-startup-turn-off-windows-8-a.html is a good place to start. Also, in an elevated command prompt, run > powercfg -h off
[07:24] <_nedr> SonikkuAmerica, Is hibernation an issue when i shut down windows too?
[07:24] <pipi_> Quick question, What happens if I recompile an application from source without removing it ?
[07:25] <pipi_> wihtout removing the old application*
[07:25] <SonikkuAmerica> _nedr: If you turn off Fast Startup and Ubuntu yells at you about the drive not being ready or present, ping me again.
[07:25] <_nedr> SonikkuAmerica, ok thanks for help will do....
[07:27] <_nedr> hrolf, can you understand it?
[07:28] <hrolf> _nedr: Yes, got a gist of it. Will do the reading required.
[07:28] <hrolf> _nedr: Thanks.
[07:28] <hrolf> _nedr: I really don't know about the rights/permissions thing, so reading them too.
[07:33] <Thete> video drivers borked my ubuntu install, is there a way to boot to console mode?
[07:35] <Thete> if I can change the grub cfg to text, how do I do update-grub if I'm not booted into it?
[07:40] <_nedr> hrolf, reading your requirements again i am not sure that the solution i provided can easily help you...
[07:40] <_nedr> oh he is gone
[07:41] <_nedr> hrolf, you want a confirmation before deleting a file/folder?
[07:44] <hrolf> _nedr: Yes for a specific set of folders.
[07:44] <hrolf> _nedr: and files.
[07:44] <_nedr> but if you do normal delete (without shift) you can recover those from the trash, right?
[07:44] <hrolf> _nedr: Like it asks you when you are installing something, a window pop ups and asks you your password.
[07:44] <hrolf> _nedr: Yes.
[07:44] <_nedr> so you are talking about preventing ctrl+ shift delete?
[07:45] <_nedr> sorry shitft+ delete
[07:45] <hrolf> _nedr: no preventing, just that it asks for confirmation (like password) before doing so
[07:45] <hrolf> _nedr: to prevent accidental deletes
[07:46] <_nedr> hrolf you can change the owner to root.. but this will ask you password when you try to write to the file also.. is that a problem?
[07:46] <gordonjcp> hrolf: what's the problem you're actually trying to solve?
[07:47] <hrolf> _nedr: What would happen if I'm downloading a file into that folder from Firefox (DownThemAll) ?
[07:47] <Guest10457> hello
[07:47] <hrolf> gordonjcp: Recently, some files were deleted, which I wasn't supposed to delete. I was just typing very fast.
[07:48] <_nedr> hrolf .. if you set to root that would be a problem.. it can't write to that folder unless firefox is running as root.. but you DO NOT want firefox to run as root
[07:48] <hrolf> _nedr: Exactly.
[07:48] <guest-7yE424> Hola
[07:48] <gordonjcp> hrolf: you could alias rm to rm -i
[07:48] <guest-7yE424> Im not speaking english
[07:48] <guest-7yE424> Know speak spanish?
[07:48] <hrolf> gordonjcp: It happened in nautilius, not cmd.
[07:49] <gordonjcp> !es | guest-7yE424
[07:49] <Guest10457> i have migrated from windows 8. which distro is better to use, mint or ubuntu?
[07:49] <_nedr> gordonjcp, that would only work when running rm command.. not when deleting from say nautilus would it?
[07:49] <gordonjcp> hrolf: you could set the sticky bit, but that only prevents users that aren't you from deleting them
[07:49] <gordonjcp> _nedr: yup
[07:49] <Whizkid> Ubuntu
[07:49] <gordonjcp> so aliasing rm doesn't really help
[07:50] <Whizkid> Mint is more like windows.
[07:50] <Guest10457> Ubuntu is better than windows? does it looks like windows 7 or morelike windows 8? can i use it easily?
[07:50] <gordonjcp> hrolf: the problem with asking for confirmation is that Nautilus already does this
[07:50] <gordonjcp> hrolf: you've just muscle-memoried your way past it
[07:51] <gordonjcp> hrolf: if these are text files, keep them in some sort of version control system like git ;-)
[07:51] <Whizkid> Well! everyone have there own choice.
[07:51] <gordonjcp> Guest10457: try it and see
[07:51] <Whizkid> but for u i will prefer mint. :)
[07:51] <hrolf> gordonjcp: They are books, pdfs.
[07:51] <gordonjcp> Guest10457: I've never used Windows so I can't really make a comparison
[07:51] <gordonjcp> hrolf: keep backups ;-)
[07:51] <_nedr> hrolf, then you might want to try ACL which is specified in link i posted earlier : http://stackoverflow.com/questions/869536/linux-directory-permissions-read-write-but-not-delete
[07:51] <Guest10457> then i will use mint.
[07:52] <_nedr> but i am not very familiar with it
[07:52] <gordonjcp> ooooh
[07:52] <hrolf> _nedr: Yes, guess I need to read that up then.
[07:52] <gordonjcp> I know what you can do
[07:52] <Whizkid> go to linuxmint.com now. And enjoy the rollercoaster. ;)))
[07:52] <gordonjcp> hrolf: you want to download the files, then make them never change or be deleted?
[07:52] <Guest10457> from where can i download antivirus for linux? in windows 7 i have avast and avira.
[07:53] <tc_> hey I want to install GNU radio
[07:53] <gordonjcp> Guest10457: you don't need one, unless you're running a server and want to clean stuff up for Windows userrs
[07:53] <hrolf> gordonjcp: yes, deleted, changed only when you provide the password. Just like before installing/updating any software it asks for password.
[07:53] <Whizkid> U dont dont need one. Windows viruses dont work on linux. :))))
[07:53] <tc_> in mac book pro.. I dont have dvd
[07:53] <gordonjcp> tc_: good luck, GNU Radio is so horrible to install and use that I ended up writing my own SDR
[07:53] <gordonjcp> hrolf: set it immutable with chattr
[07:53] <tc_> so WAnna use my USB drive to boot it.. Need help..please me out
[07:53] <gordonjcp> hrolf: how often do you change them?
[07:53] <tc_> i have to do assignments and submit monday morning
[07:54] <Whizkid> Anti-virus companies still offer a linux version.
[07:54] <gordonjcp> tc_: depends a bit on the age of your Mac
[07:54] <gordonjcp> tc_: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/How%20to%20install%20Ubuntu%20on%20MacBook%20using%20USB%20Stick
[07:54] <Guest10457> alright, i will use mint. then. i have never used linux, this is the first time i have been using it, because windows 8 is very confusing.
[07:55] <gordonjcp> Guest10457: you will need to ask for help in the Mint IRC channel, it cannot be supported here
[07:55] <gordonjcp> Guest10457: I recommend you use Ubuntu 12.04 LTS
[07:55] <Whizkid> Listen one thing. dont apply the rules of windows on linux.
[07:55] <hrolf> gordonjcp: Not frequently. They are like download, need rename? then do else no need to change.
[07:55] <gordonjcp> hrolf: okay, then set them immutable
[07:56] <tc_> please tell me whats the procedure to install
[07:56] <Guest10457> can i double click on a program to install it , like windows?
[07:56] <gordonjcp> tc_: I just gave you a link to full instructions
[07:56] <gordonjcp> Guest10457: use the Ubuntu Software Centre
[07:56] <cfhowlett> Guest10457, the sooner you forget the "windows" way, the easier your ubuntu life will be
[07:56] <Guest10457> i am very new to linux. i now nothing about it,
[07:56] <Whizkid> Nope! u have to use the software center.
[07:56] <tc_> it is installation of ubuntu right
[07:56] <tc_> not gnu radio
[07:57] <tc_> I want gnu radio..
[07:57] <mendax> ayy
[07:57] <gordonjcp> tc_: I thought you said you wanted to install Ubuntu, first?
[07:57] <gordonjcp> tc_: do you have Ubuntu installed already?
[07:57] <mendax> guys i have a little problem
[07:57] <tc_> no..
[07:57] <cfhowlett> !details|mendax,
[07:57] <tc_> I havent installed ubuntu
[07:57] <Guest10457> no.
[07:57] <mendax> i want to install kali on my netbook
[07:57] <gordonjcp> mendax: you'd need to ask in the Kali channel
[07:58] <gordonjcp> mendax: Kali cannot be supported here
[07:58] <cfhowlett> !kali|mendax,
[07:58] <gordonjcp> tc_: so what exactly are you trying to do?
[07:58] <mendax> omg are u the moderator or some shit
[07:58] <tc_> as my prof has given some intructions, I did like this
[07:58] <cfhowlett> !language|mendax,
[07:58] <hrolf> gordonjcp: "chattr: Operation not permitted while setting flags on ... "
[07:58] <mendax> word. lol
[07:58] <hrolf> I did chattr +i <filename>
[07:59] <tc_> first took the iso image http://gnuradio.org/redmine/projects/gnuradio/wiki/GNURadioLiveDVD/1
[07:59] <gordonjcp> hrolf: might need sudo for that
[07:59] <gordonjcp> hrolf: have you got permissions to write to that directory?
[07:59] <gordonjcp> tc_: have's not supported here
[07:59] <gordonjcp> tc_: you'd need to ask in #gnuradio or something
[07:59] <tc_> then I converted this iso image to
[07:59] <tc_> img file
[07:59] <Guest10457> anyways thanks everybody for helping.
[07:59] <cfhowlett> tc_, READ - not supported here.  ask in #gnuradio
[07:59] <mendax> Goodafternoon every i really fancy the chatrooms and the fine pupils which inhabit them----is that better Gordon>
[07:59] <Guest10457> i will try both
[08:00] <tc_> then moved it to usb flash drive and tried to boot it from there
[08:00] <tc_> u mean.. #gnuradio channek
[08:00] <tc_> channel*
[08:01] <cfhowlett> tc_, go back to the download page and look for support options. you should find a forum or irc channel there
[08:01] <hrolf> gordonjcp: Okay done. Now what to do when you need to delete or rename? -i ?
[08:01] <AussieDownUnder> What's this about cfhowlett?
[08:01] <cfhowlett> AussieDownUnder, what's what about?
[08:02] <gordonjcp> hrolf: yup
[08:03] <gordonjcp> hrolf: try it with something you don't much care about
[08:03] <AussieDownUnder> nm
[08:03] <gordonjcp> hrolf: writes will work, but not actually change the file
[08:03] <gordonjcp> hrolf: as in, the call to whatever writes will return successfully, but not actually do anything
[08:05] <tc_> can anyone gimme the channel for gnuradio?
[08:08] <Vivekananda> I have xdebug installed but how do I find the settings file for it ?
[08:09] <cfhowlett> tc_, as stated on the download page: #gnuradio
[08:09] <tc_> how to go to doanload page?
[08:09] <tc_> link please?
[08:09] <cfhowlett> tc_, same page you posted earlier.
[08:10] <cihhan> Hi all! I have two computers and their dates are not the same even though I am trying to use ntp. "ntpdate pool.ntp.org
[08:10] <cihhan> " returns "15 Feb 01:08:49 ntpdate[3594]: no server suitable for synchronization found". Any suggestions? My router's firewall is disabled, btw.
[08:10] <tc_> I went to that page
[08:10] <tc_> posted my query.. no on replied yet.. so thought.. i went to a wrong page
[08:13] <necros2> re all
[08:13] <tc_> I m not getting any reply in that gnuradio page
[08:13] <tc_> i badly need help..
[08:13] <cfhowlett> tc_, nothing we can do ... sorry
[08:13] <tc_> oh oh!
[08:14] <necros2> have a prob >
[08:14] <tc_> cfhowlett..
[08:14] <cfhowlett> !details|necros2,
[08:14] <tc_> can u gimme anyone's email who can help me
[08:14] <cfhowlett> tc_, no I cannot.  go to the download page and read.  all the information is there.
[08:15] <BentFranklin> Running vsftpd... Where does it save the uploaded files to?
[08:15] <necros2> making sudo eciadsl-config-tk , gives me no such file or directory, but ls shows me it is there
[08:16] <Thete> Any you guys installed Gnome 13.10 on 13.10?
[08:16] <Thete> 3.10 I mean
[08:16] <Thete> or 3.12
[08:16] <necros2> i`m trying to setup dlink dsl-200 b1 pppoe connection on 13.10 x32
[08:19] <Thete> get a modem with pppoe built in
[08:19] <tc_> please give me the download page link
[08:19] <tc_> i m confused totally'
[08:19] <cfhowlett> tc_, you already have the download page as you're the one who posted it originally.
[08:20] <Thete> what the
[08:20] <Thete> necros2: That thing's like a thousand years old
[08:21] <necros2> i know but no other in near proximity
[08:21] <necros2> 8-))
[08:21] <Thete> it still works?
[08:21] <tc_> is this the one ??Webchat.freenode.net
[08:30] <clypso> I am having problems seeing my new wifi card come up on the top right network list. I cannot see any connections or anything for wireless at all. http://pastebin.com/9R8xLwKk
[08:33] <clypso> I am having problems seeing my new wifi card come up on the top right network list. I cannot see any connections or anything for wireless at all. http://pastebin.com/9R8xLwKk
[08:33] <cfhowlett> !patience|clypso,
[08:33] <clypso> ok sorry ><
[08:36] <tc_> i have another question here..
[08:36] <lucasredsn0w> tell us
[08:36] <puff> I have a pair of Logictech H800 bluetooth headphones.  They work fine with my android phone, their paired fine with my laptop running raringing, but the sound is coming out of the speakers, not the headphones.  When I run pavucontrol and select the headphones as output, I get no sound on either headphones or speaker.ss
[08:36] <cfhowlett> tc_, ubuntu questions are welcome
[08:36] <tc_> if I boot ubuntu OS via USB
[08:37] <tc_> and then can I install gnu radio in that OS??
[08:37] <tc_> with ease ?
[08:37] <cfhowlett> tc_, with ease?  no.  with persistence?  maybe
[08:37] <cfhowlett> !persistence
[08:38] <lucasredsn0w> You can, but once you reboot, the changes will be lost
[08:38] <tc_> oh oh
[08:38] <lucasredsn0w> tc_: Live OS or Installed OS?
[08:38] <cfhowlett> lucasredsn0w, so *for my clarification* persistence does NOT allow adding programs to the OS?
[08:38] <tc_> live OS
[08:39] <lucasredsn0w> Then you may not do that.
[08:39] <tc_> oh
[08:39] <lucasredsn0w> cfhowlett: I'm not quite sure about what "perisistence storage" can do.
[08:39] <tc_> so only way to do is get a ISO file of GNU radio
[08:39] <lucasredsn0w> I didn't use it
[08:39] <tc_> and then convert it to img
[08:39] <cfhowlett> tc_, IMG?  are you on a mac?
[08:39] <tc_> then boot it from usb drive?
[08:40] <tc_> Yes
[08:40] <tc_> I use mac
[08:40] <cfhowlett> tc_, see - little details matter --- use virtualbox.  create box, install to it
[08:40] <tc_> wats that virtual box?
[08:40] <lucasredsn0w> cfhowlett: I prefer VMWare
[08:40] <cfhowlett> tc_, https://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Downloads
[08:41] <tc_> oh! virtual machine
[08:41] <lucasredsn0w> tc_: Virtual Box is a virtual machine software
[08:41] <lucasredsn0w> cfhowlett: VMware is faster on my PC
[08:41] <tc_> for Vmware we need to pay some money right?
[08:42] <lucasredsn0w> And finally I replace gcc with clang+llvm as my system's default complier.
[08:42] <cfhowlett> lucasredsn0w, I've no experience with VMWare.  if you can provide guidance ...
[08:42] <lucasredsn0w> tc_: Right
[08:42] <Ravi1> .
[08:42] <lucasredsn0w> cfhowlett: In most cases it's like VirtualBox
[08:42] <krishnaa>  hi.everyone i wanted to know when qemu is running a virtual machine what all functions are called in what sequence...
[08:42] <lucasredsn0w> But we have to pay some money for it
[08:43] <lucasredsn0w> Maybe a lot of money, who knows.
[08:43] <tc_> oh oh
[08:43] <lucasredsn0w> I once experienced it, but now I no longer use it
[08:43] <lucasredsn0w> Ubuntu is good enough
[08:43] <clypso> admin should i not post my question on here again?
[08:43] <tc_> anyother way to install this gnuradio
[08:44] <tc_> its kiling my time
[08:44] <cfhowlett> clypso, every 10 minutes or so seems reasonable
[08:44] <lucasredsn0w> I will google it
[08:44] <clypso> ok. im currently going thru the forums you put on here. thank you
[08:44] <cfhowlett> tc_, try virtualbox.  free
[08:44] <puff> Now this is weird... trying the non-bluetooth USb dongle with my H800.  Now I get an extra "analog output" entry in pavucontrol, but I can't figure out how to turn it on.
[08:44] <clypso> lol this thing is driving me crazy trying to figure it out ;(
[08:44] <cfhowlett> tc_, https://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Downloads
[08:45] <puff> Ah.... got it.
[08:45] <lucasredsn0w> cfhowlett: I see, you use XChat
[08:45] <cfhowlett> lucasredsn0w, indeed
[08:45] <lucasredsn0w> Just a CTCP-VERSION
[08:46] <lucasredsn0w> cfhowlett: I use quassel, compiled by my clang compiler
[08:47] <clypso> I am having problems seeing my new wifi card come up on the top right network list. I cannot see any connections or anything for wireless at all. http://pastebin.com/9R8xLwKk
[08:50] <tester56> I have a usb device where hdparm suggests trim is possible: sudo hdparm -I /dev/sdb1 | grep TRIM outputs:
[08:50] <tester56>           *    Data Set Management TRIM supported (limit 8 blocks)
[08:50] <tester56>            *    Deterministic read data after TRIM
[08:50] <lucasredsn0w> cfhowlett: PM
[08:50] <Devil> hi
[08:51] <tester56> however fstrim does not work: fstrim: ./: FITRIM ioctl failed: Operation not supported
[08:51] <cfhowlett> Guest99812, greetings
[08:51] <tester56> I have an ext4 parition though on that device, so it should work ...
[08:52] <tester56> So two questions: Could a usb flash device really support trim?
[08:52] <tester56> or is hdparm simply mistaken?
[08:53] <mendax> nighty night
[08:53] <mendax> ff7 in the building
[08:53] <tester56> sudo  hdparm -I /dev/sdb | grep 'Model\|TRIM' gives me: Model Number:       SanDisk SSD CZ80 32GB
[08:54] <clypso> i will try rebooting
[08:55] <simpleuser> Hi there. My left speaker is dead. Is there a way to tell (x)Ubuntu to put all sounds in the right one ? Like switching to mono instead of stereo ?
[08:55] <mendax> type in sound
[08:55] <mendax> in the ubuntu search
[08:56] <simpleuser> mendax, you mean in the doc ?
[08:57] <Red-XIII> hi guys, i've installed Ubuntu 13.10 on my Asus s56c notebook, but need some help in driver installation for nvidia gt 740M ... :S
[08:57] <cfhowlett> !nvidia
[08:57] <tester56> simpleuser: it is plain simple: you open your sound control, usually named sound, and move the balance to right:  http://voices.canonical.com/david.henningsson/files/2012/04/sound-settings-ui2.png
[08:58] <Red-XIII> thnaks cfhowlett, hoping that this time i will no have black screen .... :S
[08:58] <cfhowlett> Red-XIII, think good thoughts ...
[08:58] <tester56> simpleuser: don't know about xubuntu though ... better ask in #xubuntu
[08:58] <simpleuser> ok thanks tester56 :)
[08:59] <clypso> I am having problems seeing my new wifi card come up on the top right network list. I cannot see any connections or anything for wireless at all. http://pastebin.com/9R8xLwKk
[09:00] <tester56> simpleuser: or you simply install pavucontrol: sudo apt-get install pavucontrol
[09:00] <clypso> rfkill list is saying hard blocked yes. soft blocked no. Not sure why hard blocked is on >< arghhh
[09:00] <cfhowlett> clypso, dual booting, yes?
[09:00] <simpleuser> tester56, I already have pavucontrol. It seems that's the one Xubuntu uses
[09:00] <tester56> simpleuser: then open and go to "output-devices" tab and there you see front left and front right
[09:00] <simpleuser> tester56, but there's no option like that
[09:01] <simpleuser> i'll take a picture and show you
[09:01] <clypso> no cfhowlett only ubuntu on here
[09:01] <tester56> simpleuser: https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-xibS0_Hhld4/T6-yuPSfyGI/AAAAAAAAA2M/ewzkG8cDwuo/s450/xfce-volume-control.png
[09:01] <simpleuser> tester56, yes, i've got that.
[09:01] <simpleuser> But i already tested it. It seems it doesn't change the balance
[09:02] <tester56> simpleuser: do you see "Front Left" and "Front Right"
[09:02] <simpleuser> yes
[09:02] <cfhowlett> clypso, on my Dell, F2 is the hardware switch - in windows.    F2 again should turn it on again but (discovered by accident after 5 years of rebooting/resetting) ALT F2 will do the job.
[09:02] <simpleuser> tester56, but wheni put to 0 the left one, it doesn't change anything
[09:02] <simpleuser> it doesn't change the balance
[09:02] <tester56> simpleuser: try to change the Port
[09:03] <clypso> well this is a sony laptop. I installed this dell wireless card on here because my sony wireless card was dieing out
[09:03] <tester56> simpleuser: maybe you are changing the hdmi port, but are not using hdmi
[09:03] <cfhowlett> clypso, so what IS your hardware switch?
[09:03] <simpleuser> tester56, no, you don't understand :). It works, but not as we want
[09:03] <mmf> I'm having trouble logging in ubuntuforums.org
[09:03] <clypso> its a physical switch on the front
[09:03] <cfhowlett> !forums|mmf,
[09:03] <simpleuser> tester56, it's just it doesn't change the balance
[09:03] <mmf> I registered an account in ubuntu-one
[09:03] <cfhowlett> mmf, wrong channel
[09:04] <simpleuser> tester56, when my left speaker was not dead yet, i tried this option
[09:04] <mmf> What's the correct channel cfhowlett?
[09:04] <cfhowlett> mmf, goto #ubuntuforums
[09:04] <mmf> oh, ok, thanks
[09:04] <tester56> simpleuser: and it worked?
[09:04] <simpleuser> tester56, and it doesn't affect the balance. If you put left speaker to 0, it doesn't change anything for the right one. It just shuts down the left one
[09:04] <clypso> And before i have never had problems with the switch. It has worked like a charm
[09:04] <simpleuser> and you don't hear the sounds that are coming to the left one
[09:05] <simpleuser> it doesnt't change the balance, so it doesn't put it on mono. It stays in stereo, it's just you don't hear the left sounds
[09:05] <tester56> simpleuser: oh okay, simply forgot about that
[09:05] <simpleuser> yeah, no prob
[09:08] <clypso> @CFhowlett - It has a switch on the bottom right of laptop. For on and off. Its on "on". I have tried rebooting and playing with switch as well. I am currently using model laptop PCG-7113L
[09:09] <FeriKe> Hi, can you recommend a good book or a godd webpage where i can find all the linux commands and how to use them?
[09:09] <nishee> unlock the file
[09:09] <cfhowlett> clypso, try switch combinations: ctrl + switch, alt + switch
[09:09] <cfhowlett> clypso, possibly even super/windows key + switch
[09:10] <tester56> simpleuser: in ubuntu it is easy, do not know about xfce, sry
[09:10] <tester56> simpleuser: i have to go off now, sry
[09:10] <clypso> @CFhowlett - heh i love u for this. I did control switch. And now "rfkill list" shows hard blocked off. And my switch actually lit up. Thats never happened before haha. Yet no wifi signal
[09:11] <nishee> anyone knows how to unlock files
[09:11] <cfhowlett> clypso, one step closer
[09:11] <clypso> yet it says wireless disconnected
[09:11] <clypso> not switch :D. Yay
[09:11] <clypso> haha cfhowlett you need a metal or something for ubuntu pro of the year
[09:11] <cfhowlett> clypso, disable the hardwire/ethernet connection and see if the wifi will connect
[09:12] <clypso> ok i will get disconnected brb
[09:12] <cfhowlett> nishee, "lock"?
[09:12] <nishee> yes
[09:12] <cfhowlett> nishee, password lock?  encryption?
[09:12] <nishee> not password lock
[09:13] <nishee> actuaaly i hav recovered the files from my old hard disk
[09:13] <nishee> n know they cant be deleted
[09:13] <cfhowlett> nishee, how were they "locked"?
[09:16] <justaguy> Is it really needed to install those drivers for my GPU @ my laptop
[09:16] <cfhowlett> justaguy, gpu support out of the box varies widely.  some OEM's have decent support.  most don't.  depends what your needs are.
[09:17] <clypso_> Hey ok . No go. Nothing is coming up on wireless network. I did a reboot. Wireless networks is enabled. But showing wireless disconnected because im not connected to any wifi signals. Its not showing any wifi singals either
[09:17] <nishee> cfhowlett did u get what i said?
[09:17] <justaguy> clypso_: Which brand of wifi connector do you have
[09:18] <clypso_> my connector? MY wireless card?
[09:18] <cfhowlett> nishee, I asked you how they were "locked"?
[09:18] <clypso_> I am not sure what you mean @Justaguy
[09:18] <justaguy> clypso_: do lscpi and see which one you have
[09:18] <nishee> i have recovered them from my old hard disk n they were locked while recovering
[09:19] <cfhowlett> nishee, your old system was ubuntu?
[09:19] <justaguy> like i have this http://paste.ubuntu.com/6936111/
[09:19] <nishee> they can be accessed but not deletes
[09:19] <clypso_> Command not found @justaguy
[09:19] <justaguy> clypso_: run it and paste the output in here please
[09:19] <justaguy> clypso_: woops, it's lspci
[09:20] <nishee> i m using 12.10 ...today is the  4th day
[09:20] <cfhowlett> nishee, the HDD you're recovering from - was it ubuntu?
[09:20] <nishee> no it was  windows 7
[09:20] <clypso_> http://pastebin.com/i75H1seG
[09:21] <niko__> yeah! got it! Black screen! :D
[09:21] <cfhowlett> nishee, permissions issue.  I take it you're going to format the drive?
[09:21] <res> Hi, I'm using ubuntu 13.10 and I have problem with my wifi. I can connect to the wireless router but i cannot ping the default gateway or connect to any websites. The router is working since others can connect to it without any troubles and I can also use it form my cellphone
[09:22] <justaguy> clypso_: sudo apt-get install bcmwl-kernel-source
[09:22] <justaguy> that will install the stuff needed for 06:00.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4321 802.11a/b/g/n (rev 03)
[09:22] <Red-XIII> cfhowlett, i've to unistall all... :S i'm scared to say that was bad ... :(
[09:22] <justaguy> I had the same problem too when installing ubuntu ages ago :p
[09:24] <clypso_> @Justaguy Installed successfully . What now? Reboot computer?
[09:24] <clypso_> My wireless connection at top right also disappeared after this installation
[09:25] <justaguy> clypso_: well , my laptop has a LED that says "now you have wifi on!" and that turned on after i installed
[09:25] <justaguy> clypso_: so no idea what happend @ you
[09:26] <nisheee> yes permissions issue
[09:26] <clypso_> justaguy right before i did this installation it was at least showing my wifi. Now its not. Let me reboot computer. Maybe wrong driver ?
[09:26] <cfhowlett> nisheee, format the drive.  problem fixed
[09:26] <clypso_> i will be right back
[09:27] <nisheee> no i want filter the files
[09:27] <res> anybody? my ifconfic and route -n out is here http://paste.ubuntu.com/6936144/
[09:27] <res> ifconfig*
[09:27] <cfhowlett> nisheee, changing permissions should be possible as the system administrator
[09:29] <nisheee> it sys that u r not the owner so you cant delete files
[09:29] <Red-XIII> maybe i got to reconfigure x-server?
[09:30] <clypso> Woot! Thank you. After reboot of computer. It works perfectly
[09:30] <clypso> :)
[09:30] <clypso> *Gives a metal to you*
[09:31] <cfhowlett> nisheee, I said COPY the files and format the HDD
[09:31] <clypso> Who was it that helped me again ?
[09:31] <cfhowlett> clypso, looks like justaguy
[09:31] <nisheee> oh thankyou got it
[09:31] <clypso> Ok thank you cfhowlett for the beginning help. And thank you justaguy for finishing it off. Thank you =D
[09:32] <cfhowlett> clypso, glad to help out.  enjoy your *buntu
[09:32] <cfhowlett> !cookie|justaguy,
[09:32] <Gaurav_> Hello
[09:32] <clypso> yeah alot better then shity windows
[09:32] <nisheee> thankyou cfhowlett
[09:32] <cfhowlett> Gaurav_, greetings
[09:32] <cfhowlett> nisheee, have fun, be safe
[09:32] <Gaurav_> Is there any students program in Ubuntu ?
[09:33] <cfhowlett> Gaurav_, not sure what you mean ...
[09:34] <Gaurav_> cfhowlett I am asking Is there any students program , where students across the world can involve in Ubuntu
[09:34] <cfhowlett> !contribute|Gaurav_,
[09:35] <Gaurav_> +1 @ubottu
[09:41] <joel135> Hello! My old computer crashed and I need to copy 60 GB of data from an old PATA hard drive. Is there a risk that the hard drive will break if I copy everything at once? I have measured the speed and it seems that it will take roughly an hour. The hard drive lies in a rack from the old computer. There is no active cooling.
[09:42] <bekks> joel135: Just copy the data, you dont have any other chance.
[09:43] <cfhowlett> joel135, yep.  copy soon as possible.
[09:43] <joel135> thanks
[09:48] <mmf> Ubuntuforums irc seems to be dead
[09:48] <mmf> Do you guys know any e-mail address to get in contact with ubuntuforums.org?
[09:49] <cfhowlett> mmf, contact/support details will be listed on the forum page
[09:49] <mmf> There aren't any cfhowlett
[09:50] <bekks> mmf: whats the actual issue behind that?
[09:50] <cfhowlett> mmf, read more: forums>forum community
[09:50] <mmf> bekks, I'm trying to log in ubuntuforums.org
[09:50] <mmf> I created an ubuntu one account, but when logging in ubuntuforums, it says "invalid email address"
[09:52] <bekks> mmf: so did you enter a valid email address?
[09:52] <mmf> What do you mean cfhowlett ?
[09:52] <mmf> Well, I would say yes
[09:52] <mmf> it's the same as the one in SSO
[09:52] <cfhowlett> mmf, moderator names and addresses are there
[09:52] <bekks> mmf: Well, I would say you didnt :)
[09:53] <mmf> but I did, unless, for some reason, they're rejecting my email address
[09:53] <mmf> cfhowlett: you mean, the moderators name at the end of the page?
[09:54] <mmf> if so, I can't contact them, as I don't have a forum account
[09:54] <cfhowlett> mmf, EMAIL!
[09:54] <mmf> I can't find any email address
[09:55] <sweb> is this problem for firewall or not http://pastebin.mozilla.org/4297122
[09:55] <sweb> my bind response from <IP_ADDRESS> but not response from <IP_ADDRESS> .... is this for firewall ?
[09:58] <cfhowlett> mmf, choose one person.  look at "about me".  search for their wiki page and you'll find an email address - probably on their ubuntu membership wiki
[09:58] <cfhowlett> mmf, for example  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Caboose885
[10:04] <gino_> cd $HOME/.xchat2/buduscript && ./install.sh
[10:04] <cfhowlett> gino_, ???? this ain't your terminal ...
[10:05] <Wug> lol
[10:06] <Bardamu> Hi
[10:06] <Bardamu> I have a lenovo yoga 2 pro but I can't boot to my liveusb
[10:06] <Bardamu> nothing happens
[10:06] <cfhowlett> !uefi|Bardamu,
[10:08] <Bardamu> I already disabled fast startup
[10:08] <gino_> cd $ home/ load .xchat2/budus.so
[10:09] <cfhowlett> gino_, STOP!
[10:09] <cfhowlett> gino_, this is chat - not terminal.  check your frequency
[10:10] <Wug> judging by that thing, I don't think he has any idea what he's doing
[10:14] <jgrep> i have a package versioned as           1:1.584
[10:14] <jgrep> but when i try to install a 2.101 package it says "packages will be DOWNGRADED:"
[10:14] <jgrep> any idea what the issue
[10:14] <jgrep> also what is 1:1.584 .. ":" ??
[10:18] <WhoD> can anyone recremmend a good dreamweaver alternative?
[10:19] <cfhowlett> WhoD, kompozer, geany, bluegriffon leap to mind
[10:19] <cfhowlett> WhoD, see www.linuxalt.com for others
[10:20] <WhoD> cheers cfhowlett
[10:20] <cfhowlett> http://www.onextrapixel.com/2013/06/18/10-best-alternatives-to-adobe-dreamweaver/
[10:35] <gino_> cd $HOME/.xchat2/buduscript && ./install.sh
[10:36] <max_> sconnect
[10:38] <belgianguy> is there a setting to enable bleeding-edge updates in Ubuntu?
[10:39] <cfhowlett> belgianguy, the proposed repositories
[10:40] <belgianguy> cfhowlett: ah, that's in Synaptic, right?
[10:40] <cfhowlett> belgianguy, settings - software sources IIRC
[10:40] <MonkeyDust> belgianguy  if you want something beyond the repos, you need a ppa or so, but that's not supported here, you'd be on your own if something goes wrong
[10:41] <gino_> cd $HOME/load .xchat2/budus.so
[10:41] <belgianguy> MonkeyDust: I take full responsibility
[10:41] <belgianguy> cruising in a 3.13 with fglrx beta, so yeah, I too like to live dangerously ;)
[10:42] <Wug> gino_: this still isn't a terminal
[10:42] <belgianguy> it hit me when I saw my GIMP was still 2.7
[10:42] <belgianguy> and there's apparently a 2.10 beta available
[10:43] <belgianguy> and I love new stuff more than stability anyway :p
[10:43] <belgianguy> (I'm setting myself up for a world of hurt, I know)
[10:44] <belgianguy> but after residing in root shell for the better half of a day, and getting compiz back up and behaving, I'm feeling rather triumphant
[10:44] <MonkeyDust> belgianguy  then your gimp is even more recent than mine
[10:44] <MonkeyDust> (12.04)
[10:45] <cfhowlett> MonkeyDust, 2.6.12 here on ubuntustudio LTS
[10:46] <justaguy> fail2ban <3 , who else has it?
[10:46] <belgianguy> justaguy: I do
[10:46] <bekks> justaguy: does that matter?
[10:46] <belgianguy> on my CentOS server
[10:47] <justaguy> bekks: it's a program, that monitors your /var/log/auth.log, so if someone is attacking your ssh , they end up getting blocked
[10:48] <belgianguy> it adds people to the firewall for a set amount of time
[10:49] <belgianguy> eg after x failed attempts at SSH,
[10:49] <justaguy> exactly
[10:49] <bekks> justaguy: I know what it is for years - but how does it matter if someone in here uses it or not?
[10:49] <belgianguy> but I'm sure bekks knew what it is :)
[10:49] <bekks> justaguy: ;)
[10:50] <justaguy> bekks: ow, i was just wondering :p
[10:50] <belgianguy> justaguy: SELinux was a different story
[10:50] <belgianguy> much hair pulling
[10:50]  * justaguy has no idea what that is
[10:50] <belgianguy> and much digging through the audit logs
[10:51] <belgianguy> it adds extra policies to Linux
[10:51] <justaguy> For very paranoid people
[10:51] <belgianguy> so certain apps can only do certain actions
[10:51] <necros2> returning to my q - making sudo eciadsl-config-tk , gives me no such file or directory, but ls shows me it is there (i`m trying to setup dsl modem connection on 13.10)
[10:51] <belgianguy> justaguy: or people who like secure servers :)
[10:51] <justaguy> belgianguy: yep
[10:51] <necros2> what i made wrong?
[10:52] <belgianguy> eg if someone would try to get a shell, they wouldn't be able to get around so easily
[10:52] <justaguy> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6936491/
[10:52] <justaguy> That's nice @ fail2ban :p
[10:55] <belgianguy> my machine mails me if someone gets blocked
[10:55] <belgianguy> oddly satisfying to see pop up
[10:55] <belgianguy> mostly SSH nowadays, but they used to attack SASL as well
[10:55] <belgianguy> now I don't know if they gave up or if they got in :/
[10:56] <belgianguy> (it's both a web and mail server)
[10:56] <Wug> chances are they gave up
[10:56] <Wug> i mean, as long as your password's longer than like 6 characters
[10:56] <Wug> doesnt sound like they were trying for that long
[10:56] <belgianguy> Wug: it's extremely long, complicated, I _am_ paranoid about my server :)
[10:57] <belgianguy> it's my first VPS, so I'm sure I do have stuff to learn
[10:57] <Wug> I use 30 and 40 character passwords, random mixed case alpha numeric symbolic
[10:57] <Wug> they are hard to remember.
[10:57] <Wug> :(
[10:58] <belgianguy> Wug: mine's 28 chars long, all mixed (alphanum + symbols) and up and lowercase
[10:58] <tunage> Wug use a brain wallet hash
[10:58] <belgianguy> I can't remember it, have KeePass for that
[10:58] <Maximvm> hello there
[10:58] <Wug> I have thought about storing hints and hashes so I could remember them
[10:59] <cfhowlett> Maximvm, greetings
[10:59] <belgianguy> Wug: KeePass allows you to store passwords safely
[10:59] <starnix> Hello Everyone
[10:59] <belgianguy> hi :)
[10:59] <Wug> first+last digit and hash would be good probably
[10:59] <Wug> I won't use keepass
[10:59] <Wug> I didn't write it.
[10:59] <Maximvm> do you know some ubuntu software to study and test electric engineering?
[11:00] <Wug> even I don't know some of my longer passwords.  I remember them by muscle memory and can't spell them or type them without a qwerty keyboard
[11:00] <dakotawulfy> have you used the software center
[11:00] <cfhowlett> Maximvm, ^^^^ this
[11:00] <dakotawulfy>  has a section on that
[11:00] <cfhowlett> starnix, greetings
[11:01] <Maximvm> thx a lot
[11:01] <Wug> watching me try to type the password for my bouncer on my phone is hilarious
[11:01] <belgianguy> you have a bouncer?
[11:01] <Maximvm> i wonder if there is a irc channel too where i can find some help during the study
[11:01] <Wug> it's even more hilarious when 500 lines of scrollback in 80 channels crashes my phone's irc client
[11:01] <Wug> of course I have a bouncer
[11:02] <belgianguy> Wug: I don't think I know what bouncer means
[11:02] <belgianguy> or at least not what I thought it meant
[11:02] <Wug> google znc (or join #znc)
[11:02] <dakotawulfy>  Maximvm on circuits ??
[11:05] <belgianguy> Wug: so an IRC proxy, right?
[11:05] <Wug> it's only a proxy by really vague definitions
[11:06] <Wug> its almost more of a standalone client that just happens to let clients connect to it
[11:08] <MrElendig> znc is a bouncer, not a proxy, there are some subtle differences there
[11:08] <MrElendig> it acts as a irc clint and will keep the session open
[11:09] <Wug> it's transparent (sort of anyway) both to the client and the server, but also stateful
[11:10] <Wug> it hides the one-to-many relationship of multiple clients from the server (or the one-to-zero of no clients)
[11:10] <AussieDownUnder> What channel would be the best place to talk about creating custom stripped down ubuntu live usb images. I want to make a legal tech tool with a bootable o/s of ubuntu on it so that I have an alternative to hirens boot cd.
[11:10] <Wug> AussieDownUnder: here is probably ok
[11:11] <MertenNor> hi
[11:11] <AussieDownUnder> wug, Alright sweet.
[11:11] <Wug> I've done something like that before. I don't remember the procedure, but google is very informative and has lots of tutorials
[11:11] <Wug> I suggest finding a tutorial that's reasonably up to date, and following it as closely as possible, and asking if you run into trouble
[11:11] <MrElendig> AussieDownUnder: protip: use gummiboot/grub or similar for the bootloader, make it into a hybrid image that will work both on a cd and on a usb (and both on uefi and legacy)
[11:11] <AussieDownUnder> So far I'm pretty content on having wine in the image & portable apps installed as well.
[11:12] <AussieDownUnder> MrElendig, I'll record that info somewhere if I can.
[11:14] <MrElendig> AussieDownUnder: the "ubuntu" way of burning image to cd, booting the image, then making a new image using unetbootin then putting that on a usb stick is just *double facepalm*
[11:15] <AussieDownUnder> mrelendig, I had this ubuntu customisation thing for making custom boot cd's
[11:16] <AussieDownUnder> mrelendig, Ubuntu customization kit it is called, not sure how good it is but I'm pretty sure it let you use an iso from your hard drive of the ubuntu version you wanted rather than having it on a cd.
[11:16] <MertenNor> I just installed Ubunto Server ubuntu 12.04.4 server Iand I get this when it boots up: http://i.imgur.com/p4IjLaj.jpg?1
[11:17] <MrElendig> AussieDownUnder: iirc it creates a cd only image by default
[11:17] <MrElendig> though that might have changed, been a while since I looked at it
[11:17] <MrElendig> MertenNor: I suggest installing a more up to date version
[11:18] <AussieDownUnder> mrelendig, okay.
[11:18] <Matriks404> MrElending: 12.04.4 is up to date, it uses 13.10 kernel and x, so it shouldn't be difference in booting
[11:18] <kouakou> i want to join french channel
[11:18] <MertenNor> MrElendig em do you have a link ? I thught that was the latest one..
[11:18] <Matriks404> !fr
[11:19] <cfhowlett> !server|MertenNor,
[11:20] <MertenNor> ok
[11:21] <gnuts> anyone need help?
[11:24] <kgalahassa> Hi i need to lock access to a website on my ubuntu 12.10 how can I do it?
[11:25] <MrElendig> kgalahassa: the naive way is to dns block it
[11:25] <MrElendig> kgalahassa: the correct way is to DPI
[11:26] <MrElendig> semi-naive way is to set up a iptables rule
[11:26] <kgalahassa> MrElendig, I'am just a novice, can you guide me with some commands?
[11:26] <MrElendig> echo "somedomain.com <IP_ADDRESS>" >> /etc/hosts   for the naive way
[11:27] <MrElendig> er.. other way around
[11:27] <MrElendig> <IP_ADDRESS> somedomain.com
[11:27] <MrElendig> but then they can just enter the ip instead of the hostname and get around it that way
[11:28] <MrElendig> blocking using iptables is somewhat more reliable, since then you would block access to the IP instead, but ofcourse that can be circumvented by using a proxy/vpn
[11:29] <AussieDownUnder> I need the dalek channel for ubuntu
[11:29] <cfhowlett> daleks don't get a channel
[11:30] <MrElendig> EXTERMINATE!
[11:31] <AussieDownUnder> This is discrimination
[11:31] <AussieDownUnder> We will travel back in time & prevent all irc from even existing.
[11:31] <Matriks404> what is that program called which displays some stuff in terminal when started up, like kernel, distro name etc ??
[11:31] <Wug> uname?
[11:32] <Matriks404> um no, more like big distro logo, and stuff on the right side
[11:32] <Hebbel> Hey there. quick question. whats the best partition type for a hard drive under linux t keep large files ?
[11:32] <cfhowlett> Hebbel, "large"???  anyway, the default is ext4
[11:33] <Hebbel> cfhowlett: 45 gb files
[11:33] <Matriks404> Wug: like here http://i.imgur.com/cl4jzni.jpg
[11:33] <Wug> ext4 will handle those fine
[11:33] <cfhowlett> Hebbel, a single file of 45G size?!  time to filter your collection!
[11:33] <Wug> but, you may have issues copying them to NTFS partitions from linux (ntfs drivers perform very poorly)
[11:34] <Matriks404> ah nope im probably idiot
[11:34] <MonkeyDust> Hebbel  what happens if you use the default ext4 ?
[11:34] <Hebbel> Wug: i don't use ntfs so its no iddue
[11:34] <Hebbel> issue*
[11:34] <Hebbel> Im just trying to avoid formatting twice
[11:37] <Matriks404> if i copy binary file to /usr/bin it will be normally working?
[11:38] <cfhowlett> Matriks404, that is not the way files are installed -
[11:38] <Matriks404> cfhowlett: i have just downloaded screenfetch because it doesnt appear in repos and its only 1 binary file
[11:39] <cfhowlett> !binary|Matriks404,
[11:39] <MonkeyDust> Matriks404  there's also dependencies
[11:40] <Matriks404> MonkeyDust: I downloaded binary file and it's working but i must run it from folder in home dir, and i want it to run without going to path
[11:41] <Matriks404> nvm i tried it and its working
[11:41] <MonkeyDust> Matriks404  then put it in /usr/bin and try to execute it from another dir
[11:41] <MonkeyDust> ok
[11:41] <cfhowlett> Matriks404, the download page specifies you can save it anywhere.
[11:42] <RayWizard|2> how to add button, to notify-send? i see transmission does that
[11:45] <MonkeyDust> RayWizard|2  i guess you want zenity
[11:47] <MrElendig> RayWizard|2: having a button in a notification popup is a really bad design
[11:48] <RayWizard|2> in transmission this button allows me to quickly open relewant download
[11:48] <RayWizard|2> in my application i want to be able to see some info i i desire so
[11:48] <RayWizard|2> but i want it to be popup so it dosent bother me
[11:52]  * MrElendig suggests a tray icon
[11:57] <RayWizard|2> is there command line command that can create tray icon?
[11:58] <Matriks404> nothing interesting in /var/log :(
[12:00] <MonkeyDust> RayWizard|2  there's alltray, not sure if you can use it in a script
[12:02] <Matriks404> why grep is blocked to search in logs, wtf
[12:02] <bekks> Matriks404: That sentence doesnt make any sense, sorry. Which problem do you experience using grep?
[12:02] <Matriks404> I am using grep to scan /var/log/* and it produces error permission denied
[12:03] <Matriks404> search*
[12:03] <bekks> Matriks404: Then you dont have permission to do so, which isnt a grep problem - but a problem of insufficient privileges.
[12:03] <Matriks404> but i can open files in this directory
[12:04] <bekks> But not all :)
[12:04] <Matriks404> for example i can open file dpkg.log but i cant use grep to search in it
[12:04] <bekks> Why not?
[12:04] <bekks> And how do you "open" it?
[12:04] <Matriks404> by double clicking on it in file manager
[12:05] <bekks> Matriks404: Then look at the permissions of that file: ls -lha dpkg.log
[12:06] <Matriks404> ah seems that i can use grep "text" /path/to/file, but not grep "text" | /path/to/file. can anyone explain this?
[12:06] <bekks> Matriks404: The second one is an invalid syntax example.
[12:06] <bekks> Thats why it doesnt work.
[12:07] <Matriks404> bekks: i am pretty sure i saw it somewhere :P
[12:07] <bekks> Matriks404: As an exmaple on how to not do it.
[12:07] <Matriks404> bekks: ok, thanks anyway
[12:08] <rushboy> any idea on how how to install jetty 8 on ubuntu 12.04
[12:08] <rushboy> ?
[12:08] <rushboy> any help is appreciated
[12:08] <p3rror> hello
[12:08] <p3rror> please I need to launch a X application remotely
[12:09] <bekks> p3rror: ssh -CX remoteserver
[12:09] <p3rror> bekks, ok
[12:09] <p3rror> I dont need to run display
[12:10] <Matriks404> wtf is this and why it is so many times in kernel logs: /var/log/kern.log.1:Feb  8 20:22:23 marcin-COMPAQ-MINI kernel: [ 2230.006102] ERROR @wl_cfg80211_get_station : Wrong Mac address
[12:12] <MonkeyDust> !wtf | Matriks404
[12:12] <Wug> MonkeyDust: does anyone else find it extremely, deliciously ironic that you just yelled at him for saying "wtf" by calling a factoid called "wtf"
[12:13] <Wug> who named that
[12:13] <charl> besides, it's not like wtf is that uncommon on irc channels
[12:13] <charl> or online in general, it's not like full out foul language
[12:14] <humbag> also wtf is part of package bsdgames
[12:14] <cfhowlett> nonetheless: family friendly channel, follow the rules or seek support elsewhere.  please and thank you.
[12:14] <Wug> I'm pretty sure most people find out about the word wtf when they're like 13
[12:14] <Wug> humbag: help, my wtf is broken
[12:14] <bekks> Wug: Yeah, but thats no reason for using it when talking with other people.
[12:14] <Matriks404> ah just buggy broadcom driver
[12:14] <Tom1> which is the best windows antivirus scanner for ubuntu?
[12:14] <bekks> Matriks404: Looks like a buggy wifi AP.
[12:15] <Matriks404> bekks: what is AP?
[12:15] <alumnoeps> Hello
[12:15] <cfhowlett> !best|Tom1, wait, what?
[12:15] <bekks> Matriks404: access point.
[12:15] <cfhowlett> alumnoeps, greetings
[12:15] <Tom1> cfhowlett:which is the best windows antivirus scanner for ubuntu?
[12:15] <Matriks404> bekks: maybe
[12:15] <cfhowlett> Tom1, there is no "best" ...
[12:15] <alumnoeps> lst
[12:15] <alumnoeps> list
[12:15] <cfhowlett> !antivirus
[12:15] <alumnoeps> \list
[12:15] <bekks> !list | alumnoeps
[12:16] <alumnoeps> \quit
[12:18] <justaguy> lol
[12:23] <Matriks404> should wifi connection be labeled eth2?
[12:24] <Guest3131> salut
[12:26] <Tom1> what is clamav?
[12:26] <cfhowlett> Guest3131, greetings
[12:27] <cfhowlett> !clamav|Tom1,
[12:27] <cfhowlett> !info clamav