[21:09] <vcarney> KM0201: i just upgraded from 10.04 since my intel integrated graphics didn't work
[21:10] <shawnboy> Dazza71: one option
[21:10] <ZykoticK9> Dazza71, vbox allows you to install windows inside ubuntu - not just programs
[21:10] <wilhart> fleshpike, it's working yes but can't enter sound setup
[21:10] <ZykoticK9> Dazza71, wine for just programs
[21:10] <KM0201> vcarney: i don't see "network manager" in the preferences menu.
[21:10] <wilhart> fleshpike, it just says Waiting for sound system to respond
[21:10] <guntbert> Dazza71: with virtualbox you can run windows (or many other OSes) in a virtual machine
[21:10] <KM0201> are you using network connections?
[21:10] <Dazza71> i see but cant get the programs to work with wine
[21:10] <vcarney> KM0201: maybe it was administration ->
[21:10] <ZykoticK9> KM0201, i think vcarney is using an old version perhaps
[21:10] <KM0201> vcarney: thats network tools
[21:10] <Rogan_> :) Well, dispite it not being running, I'm pleased, because it means my other scripts probably were working
[21:11] <KM0201> ZykoticK9: well, he says he's using 10.10.
[21:11] <fleshpike> wilhart : does your board have a internal sound chip?
[21:11] <shawnboy> Can someone help me get Android SDK (and adb) running?
[21:11] <KM0201> thats why i'm trying to clarify
[21:11] <wilhart> fleshpike, it's internal yep
[21:11] <wilhart> fleshpike, how do i check that? btw.
[21:11] <ZykoticK9> KM0201, then he's mistaken - as i too don't have any Network Manager
[21:11] <vcarney> KM0201: yes i'm on 10.10
[21:11] <KM0201> ZykoticK9: i as gonna get to that, i was just going to make him embrace the horror
[21:11] <zeler> anyone can help ?  i'm trying to uninstall exim and it forces me to install postix ! can i avoid that ? like an apt-get -ignore something ?
[21:12] <lul> at-get ignore user
[21:12] <Dazza71> so how does vbox help ?
[21:12] <Guest16980> dudes listen ive bein wyth this problem for a few weeks now ok:i have downloaded nvidia drivers and i have reinatlled compiz and i have checked my life driver and it till doesnt add up anythought/
[21:12] <fleshpike> wilhart : some motherboards have its own sound system. you can see that at motherboard specification or in the bios
[21:12] <Entelin> I'm trying to chroot /mnt/sda3 /bin/bash  and I get  "chroot: cannot run command `/bin/bash': No such file or directory"   however /bin/bash is there, it works fine.  any ideas?
[21:12] <Entelin> i'm doing this from the ubuntu live cd
[21:12] <vcarney> KM0201: there is a preference related to network which doesn't open for me. it should allow me to select/configure my wireless connection, but the window doesn't even open
[21:12] <wilhart> fleshpike, no i disabled that in bios, i jsut have soundblatser x-fi xtreme audio now
[21:12] <wilhart> fleshpike, soundcard
[21:13] <vcarney> i have brought up wlan0 with iwlist and connected to a guest essid
[21:13] <wilhart> fleshpike, wondering why i can get into system -> preference -> sound
[21:13] <fleshpike> wilhart : sorry wilhart dont have more ideas
[21:13] <ActionParsnip> Entelin: did you mount proc too?
[21:13] <wilhart> fleshpike, what was that manually sound settings?
[21:13] <wilhart> fleshpike, gstream-properties or something
[21:13] <guntbert> Guest16980: we could read your question better if you just typed plain english
[21:13] <vcarney> KM0201:  i have brought up wlan0 with iwlist and connected to a guest essid
[21:13] <KM0201> vcarney: so your wireless is working
[21:14] <fleshpike> wilhart : lol, you know more than me
[21:14] <Entelin> ActionParsnip, proc is mounted automatically on the live cd
[21:14] <vcarney> KM0201: no, i connected to a guest connection. i'm unable to update repositories
[21:14] <Guest16980> sory its just that im loosyng my english as i  live out of te us ok
[21:14] <ActionParsnip> Entelin: yes, but not in the chroot, so you need to mount it
[21:14] <vcarney> KM0201: dns doesn't resolve.
[21:14] <KM0201> vcarney: ok, you're either connected to a wireless network, or your not.
[21:14] <Jemt> Ubuntu supports multiple keyboard layouts. When enabled, I get a fancy keyboard switcher in my top panel. Is it possible to add keyboards though a console? I need to add multiple languages on many computers
[21:14] <Entelin> ok ill try that
[21:14] <Guest16980> i am dude
[21:14] <Spow> Anyone knows how to flush /dev/ttyUSB0 please ?
[21:14] <fleshpike> wilhart : what s yor ubuntu version?
[21:15] <Guest16980> 10.10
[21:15] <ActionParsnip> Entelin: http://karuppuswamy.com/wordpress/2010/06/02/how-to-chroot-to-ubuntu-using-live-cd-to-fix-grub-rescue-prompt/
[21:15] <lamik> How can i add aplication to menu in unity?
[21:15] <nirazio> Does anybody know an alternative MS Terminal Server for Ubuntu which can be used for connection of Windows thin clients ? It is a big advantage if there are no limitation for a number of connected thin clients.
[21:15] <Guest16980> and its in the AGNOME session
[21:15] <Guest16980> sory i mean GNOME
[21:15] <tolis> Hello, i have just updated to 10.10 and after a restart i get grub rescue screen... Anyone tha can help me??
[21:16] <fleshpike> wilhart : you asked for drivers. have you tryed creative site?
[21:16] <Jordan_U> tolis: Do you have more than one hard drive?
[21:16] <KM0201> tolis: what did you update to 10.10 from?
[21:16] <Guest16980> no i havent [explain]
[21:16] <tolis> KM0201: fron 10.04
[21:16] <nirazio> Does anybody know an alternative MS Terminal Server for Ubuntu which can be used for connection of Windows thin clients ? It is a big advantage if there are no limitation for a number of connected thin clients.
[21:16] <Dazza71> what is best option if i need to access windows programs but cant use them with wine as they fail to open or crash ?
[21:16] <tolis> Jordan_U: yes i have 2 drives
[21:17] <tolis> Jordan_U: but i have a grub partition
[21:17] <chaospsychex> what is the difference between terminal and console
[21:17] <ActionParsnip> Dazza71: there is no sigle best option for ANYTHING
[21:17] <guntbert> Dazza71: install windows in a virtual machine
[21:17] <webroasters> hi guys. i can't seem to uninstall "bandwidthd" and I've scowered the interwebs for help, nothing works.
[21:17] <Dazza71> and in vmachine can i then open the programs safely ?
[21:18] <FredFlinstone> resixian, nautilus nwetwork browse fails too - failed to retrieve share list ..
[21:18] <ActionParsnip> Dazza71: you can use a virtualbox and use the app seamlessly if you want. You will need and be running a full WIndows OS (you'll need valid licence and install media) as well as Ubuntu so is a lot of bloat
[21:18] <ZykoticK9> Dazza71, your "best" option is to find linux alternatives to your windows programs :p
[21:18] <guntbert> Dazza71: you will be running a standard windows in there
[21:18] <ActionParsnip> Dazza71: sure its safe
[21:18] <radi> hello
[21:18] <webroasters> hi
[21:18] <radi> any solution for this bug ?
[21:18] <radi> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/642421
[21:18] <webroasters> i can't seem to uninstall "bandwidthd" and I've scowered the interwebs for help, nothing works.
[21:18] <radi> tried all suggestions from launchpad
[21:19] <Jordan_U> tolis: When you say you have a grub partition, do you mean that you have a separate partition for grub's files (which is fine) or that you installed grub's boot sector to a partition (which doesn't make much sense and can cause things to break)?
[21:19] <ActionParsnip> Dazza71: what does you incompatible app do?
[21:19] <inphernal> Hey, can anyone help me out with a partitioning problem I'm having?
[21:19] <Dazza71> but i guess then i would have to re-install the software in the virtualbox ?
[21:19] <ActionParsnip> Dazza71: is this some itunes nonesense?
[21:19] <tolis> Jordan_U: sry i mean boot partition
[21:19] <Dazza71> they crash a lot
[21:19] <KM0201> lol, itunes nonsense
[21:19] <Dazza71> no office programs and msmoney
[21:19] <wilhart> soo what's up with gnome 3 ?
[21:19] <ActionParsnip> Dazza71: its windows so will only crash like it does in windows
[21:19] <resixian> FredFlinstone: it seems like there is a permission issue from the windows box
[21:19] <wilhart> is it awailable ?
[21:19] <ActionParsnip> Dazza71: have you considered gnucash?
[21:20] <ActionParsnip> wilhart: there is a ppa for it
[21:20] <ZykoticK9> wilhart, gnome-shell (side not, looks like it's being removed from upcoming 11.04)
[21:20] <KM0201> wilhart: scheduled release date ist he year 2030, but that could be pushed back.
[21:20] <webroasters> can someone help me about bandwidthd
[21:20] <FredFlinstone> resixian, 3 win boxes they all like each other, and ubuntu 10.04 did too
[21:20] <wilhart> ActionParsnip, soo, how stable is it?
[21:20] <webroasters> i can't seem to uninstall "bandwidthd"
[21:20] <Dazza71> i could find alternative money prog but i use databases at work and they only use access and nothing seems to work with them files
[21:20] <ActionParsnip> Dazza71: seems like a LOT of OTT for Office when you have openoffice, you cold even grab crossover office or cedega if you want to pay cash for a solution, they will make them run a little better
[21:20] <resixian> FredFlinstone: so this is a new problem after upgrading?
[21:21] <ActionParsnip> wilhart: no idea, i dont use gnome
[21:21] <KM0201> webroasters: how did you install it?
[21:21] <webroasters> i downloaded a deb file
[21:21] <FredFlinstone> resixian, so, they are already set ok, its the ubuntu, its a clean install, upgrade ruinded stuff
[21:21] <shawnboy> anyone running android sdk successfully?
[21:21] <KM0201> webroasters: well, sudo apt-get remove packagename
[21:21] <webroasters> i tried that
[21:21] <Jordan_U> tolis: Try changing the boot order in the BIOS, if that doesn't work then please run boot info script as explained here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1291280 and pastebin the RESULTS.txt.
[21:21] <radi> anyone ?
[21:21] <KM0201> webroasters: and..?
[21:21] <webroasters> it comes back with errors and I've looked online and I ahven't been able to find a fix
[21:21] <ZykoticK9> wilhart, gnome-shell is a long way from being feature complete (when compared to gnome)
[21:21] <ActionParsnip> wilhart: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2010/11/install-vanilla-gnome-3-in-maverick/
[21:21] <inphernal> Can anyone help me with a partitioning issue I'm having? I'm trying to merge unallocated space to make a /home partition but there's a hidden partition (Win7, I'm assuming) in between the two and I can't figure out how to move it
[21:22] <FredFlinstone> resixian, i am VERY sorry that i did vmware first, or i would  have already toasted this , yet again
[21:22] <Dazza71> is they any program that can open access database files then ?
[21:22] <Dazza71> there *
[21:22] <shawnboy> inphernal: do you have room to move it?
[21:22] <wilhart> ActionParsnip, if it doesnt work can i fallback install ?
[21:22] <FredFlinstone> next installl, shares first :)
[21:22] <tolis> Jordan_U: ok thanks
[21:23] <Jordan_U> tolis: You're welcome.
[21:23] <wilhart> ActionParsnip, or does it add in gdm gnome3 ?
[21:23] <KM0201> wilhart: This isn’t an upgrade than can be easily reversed either so be aware of what this entails before attempting.     right from the webpage
[21:23] <Chaos2358> how risky is it to set up a dual boot?
[21:23] <ActionParsnip> wilhart: i guess you could drop to livecd or root recovery mode, remove the ppa and install gnome
[21:23] <FredFlinstone> a fellow who is new shouldnt always be formatting to solve stuff, so i HAVE to bug you guys, so please bear with me
[21:23] <ThatBum> Chaos2358: not too bad, i set mine up with little difficulty
[21:23] <rizo> i am using xchat and i dont see the timestamp... and i cant fint the option to enable it... any idea?
[21:23] <Chaos2358> meaning i already have ubuntu 10.10 and want to set up xp as dual boot
[21:24] <KM0201> Chaos2358: if you pay attention, it's fairly safe...
[21:24] <inphernal> Yeah I have  |sda1(1.4GB)|sda2(140GB)|UNALLOCATED(80GB)|sda3(9.6GB)hidden|UNALLOCATED(232GB)
[21:24] <FredFlinstone> resixian, nautilus nwetwork browse fails too - failed to retrieve share list - can we find out why?
[21:24] <KM0201> Chaos2358: how is ubuntu installed now?.. as the sole OS on the machine?
[21:24] <s5s> Hey guys I have a problem sending mail through (al)pine. I can read mail and I pretty much know what the problem is with sending but don't know how to fix it. Can anyone who's using pine through IMAP help?
[21:24] <IonizeD> hello
[21:24] <webroasters> is there a way to find this package physically and delete it???
[21:24] <Chaos2358> KM0201, yes it is
[21:24] <inphernal> I want to move it into that 80GB unallocated space and combine the rest of the free space for a /home partition
[21:24] <wilhart> KM0201, how stable is this gnome3?
[21:24] <ActionParsnip> Dazza71: sounds like you may need office if you use MS Access, if you are doing proper database work I suggest you use SQL
[21:25] <p47> I need to make a udisk downgrade but "Force version" seems dont function ! help !
[21:25] <ThatBum> Chaos2358: on my box, i have xp and ubuntu on a dual boot, each with their own separate 160GB drive, and a 320GB drive for /home for linux
[21:25] <KM0201> wilhart: i have no idea, i don't use it.. i just copy/pasted that off the webpage
[21:25] <Dazza71> can sql be used on unbuntu then ?
[21:25] <s5s> Chaos2358: It is not risky at all. There is no risk whatsoever. However, I find it much more convenient to use a single boot maching + Vbox for windows.
[21:25] <p47> I need to make a udisk downgrade but "Force version" seems doesn't work! help !
[21:25] <KM0201> Chaos2358: well, when you install XP, it's going to overwrite grub, so you'll need to be prepared to reinstall that, but other than that, not to bad
[21:25] <radi> is there a patch or fix for this bug ? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/642421?comments=all
[21:25] <radi> official one
[21:25] <ThatBum> Chaos2358: just install windows first and ubuntu seconds, or windows will eat your master boot record and you won't be able to boot ubuntu
[21:25] <ThatBum> second*
[21:25] <Dazza71> i like unbuntu and if i can get programs to do the same job as office then wud stay with them
[21:26] <MrKeuner> bodybrowser.googlelabs.com crashes X or GDM I am not sure, is this a chrome problem or an X problem
[21:26] <ActionParsnip> Dazza71: sure, its a standardized ting. If you want to use MS Access you will more than likely need a virtualbox
[21:26] <KM0201> s5s: well that's pretty much irrelevant, cuz it didn't tend to his question, maybe his pc isn't powerful enough to run 2 OS's, or maybe he wants to play games?
[21:26] <dyllan> if facebook offline for anyone else?
[21:26] <BlackBox> Ubuntu is the only linux distro which has worked out the box for me. as to say.
[21:26] <dredge> yeh
[21:26] <inphernal> Partition help, anyone?
[21:26] <radi> am i talking to a wall or something -.-
[21:27] <KM0201> inphernal: just ask.
[21:27] <BlackBox> radi: why
[21:27] <Dazza71> i have the xp disk and cud install vbox but then i guess i wud have to re-install office again then ?
[21:27] <Chaos2358> ThatBum,  KM0201 ok would it be possible to set it up so that both window and ubuntu can access my media? as in pics vids music documents? I would like to lets say partition as so 10gig for xp, 10 gig for ubuntu, and the remaining 300 gig as shared. is that possible?
[21:27] <may_null> Hi I want to connect internet using iwconfig and dhclient but how can I set WPA password key ?
[21:27] <inphernal> I have been
[21:27] <ActionParsnip> Dazza71: yes, it'll need installing in the virtualbox too
[21:27] <radi> BlackBox,  radi> is there a patch or fix for this bug ? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/642421?comments=all
[21:27] <jef91> Anyone help me get flash working in Firefox? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1646812
[21:28] <KM0201> Chaos2358: yes...Ubuntu should be able to read your NTFS partition out of the box... so if you keep your multimedia crap on your windows partition, you should be able to use it no prob w/ Ubuntu
[21:28] <chaospsychex> why won't a installed program run when i click on it
[21:28] <radi> jef91, just go to adobe web site and download i t
[21:28] <FredFlinstone> part of samba MUST be missing, i go in synaptic, and it looks like hundreds of samba things missing, ANYONE?
[21:28] <inphernal> I have |sda1(1.4GB)|sda2(140GB)|UNALLOCATED(80GB)|sda3(9.6GB)hidden|UNALLOCATED(232GB)
[21:28] <chaospsychex> i used apt-get to install a program
[21:28] <radi> or use chrome
[21:28] <chaospsychex> didn't get any errossa
[21:28] <Dazza71> and i am sure someone said it wud be safe and virus free using vbox on unbuntu to access windows programs ?
[21:28] <inphernal> The allocated ones are Win7 partitions
[21:28] <jef91> radi - read that thread
[21:28] <ActionParsnip> inphernal: gparted should do all that for you, just be sure the partitions you want to manipulate aren't mounted
[21:28] <p47> I need to downgrade udisk with synaptic but "Force version" function seems to doesn't work ! any help ?
[21:28] <chaospsychex> but when i click on the program in wont open
[21:28] <Chaos2358> KM0201,  so ubuntu reads through the partition as standard?
[21:28] <ThatBum> Chaos2358: you have to make a separate partition that can be read by both linux and windows...e.g. not ext4 or other unix filesystems
[21:28] <inphernal> I can't launch gparted
[21:28] <FredFlinstone> DO I NEED UBUNTU SERVER just TO SHARE FILES TWO WAYS?
[21:28] <FredFlinstone> OOPS
[21:28] <webroasters> thx guys
[21:28] <KM0201> Chaos2358: yes...
[21:28] <demonspork> on Ubuntu I am running into an issue with disk IO crippling the system. In Windows 7 on this same machine, I can move massive files without it affecting performance of desktop activities like internet browsing. Right now I am moving some large directories and it is causing other parts to react slowly, like web browsing and switching to different windows.
[21:29] <ActionParsnip> FredFlinstone: no, you can use samba on desktop
[21:29] <jrib> FredFlinstone: no...
[21:29] <BlackBox> radi: i had the same problem just reinstalled and it worked
[21:29] <inphernal> I can launch KDEped though
[21:29] <radi> jef91, did that already and tried all solutions
[21:29] <ActionParsnip> inphernal: then run:   sudo apt-get --reinstall install gparted
[21:29] <radi> BlackBox, well, i dont want to reinstall
[21:29] <ActionParsnip> inphernal: or if you use kde, kparted
[21:29] <Mr18> Hello, I just installed Ubuntu. However, I am not getting internet.
[21:29] <wilhart> anyone using that gnome 3 ?
[21:29] <FredFlinstone> ActionParsnip,  well this version dont like me, why are so many thigs not install when i search samba in synaptic?
[21:29] <Chaos2358> ThatBum, what do you mean?
[21:29] <boyglick> hai
[21:30] <BlackBox> Mr18: over wireless
[21:30] <FredFlinstone> an what is samba 4 do i want that?
[21:30] <BlackBox> ?
[21:30] <Mr18> BlackBox, Yes.
[21:30] <joshmclvl1> Mr18: you are using a laptop, yes? can you use the internet over ethernet cable?
[21:30] <BlackBox> Mr18: If you can connect by ethernet and then install all updates
[21:30] <Mr18> joshmclvl1, No, currently I am using a laptop.
[21:30] <FredFlinstone> shoudl i install everything with the word samba in it?
[21:30] <ThatBum> Chaos2358: you can have all your stuff of the windows partition and just set that drive to automount when you start ubuntu, and then make a link to it, but that's kind of a meh solution
[21:30] <inphernal> ActionParsnip: Didn't work:  I have |sda1(1.4GB)|sda2(140GB)|UNALLOCATED(80GB)|sda3(9.6GB)hidden|UNALLOCATED(232GB)
[21:30] <BlackBox> Mr18: should work after
[21:30] <inphernal> Sorry, E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[21:30] <Mr18> but the machine that has it is a desktop.
[21:31] <ThatBum> Chaos2358: make a third partition with no os on it, just stuff, and both os's can share it
[21:31] <inphernal> I am running Live USB if that makes a difference
[21:31] <boyglick> im so glad that 5 months ago i setup ubuntu as my mom's main computer
[21:31] <BlackBox> Mr18: connect via ethernet then install updates then the wireless should work fine.
[21:31] <boyglick> i no longer have to fix viruses, and trojans, and things breaking
[21:31] <joshmclvl1> Mr18: if you connect by ethernet, you can probably dl the drivers for your wireless card (through system / administration / additional drivers)
[21:31] <Mr18> BlackBox, I know
[21:31] <boyglick> for people that arnt computer savvy ubuntu is definately better then windows
[21:31] <elias79> is this the general ubuntu chat ?
[21:31] <Mr18> but the case is extremely heavy.
[21:31] <BlackBox> Mr18: something to do with the old kernel not working with certain wireless chipsets
[21:32] <ActionParsnip> boyglick: same with my grandad, just has a big firefox (yuk) icon on the desktop next to amsn and he's away :)
[21:32] <guntbert> boyglick: nice, but please express you happiness in #ubuntu-offtopic -- this here is the support channel
[21:32] <Mr18> BlackBox, I am sure that this PCI is new.
[21:32] <ActionParsnip> elias79: this is support only, #ubuntu-offtopic for everything else
[21:32] <BlackBox> Mr18: Is it ralink
[21:32] <pero> anyone know some good keybinding program?
[21:32] <BlackBox> Mr18: model number
[21:32] <Mr18> Yes
[21:32] <aeon-ltd> boyglick: except people who use proprietry hardware; damn there should be a venn diagram for this
[21:32] <Mr18> BlackBox, ASUS PCE-N13
[21:32] <inphernal> Gparted still won't start
[21:33] <inphernal> KDEped did though
[21:33] <boyglick> yeah this was like a 300 dollar pc from frys
[21:33] <inphernal> Shows sda3 - unknown - 9GB - hidden
[21:33] <inphernal> That's my Win7 recovery partition
[21:34] <inphernal> I highlight it and move/resize isn't even an option
[21:34] <aeon-ltd> boyglick: i didn't mean internal hardware, i meant hardware like iPods etc
[21:34] <BlackBox> Mr18:  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1471353
[21:34] <boyglick> aeon-ltd, oh, yeah, although, my ipod works fine with 'buntu
[21:35] <Mr18> BlackBox, Thank you.
[21:35] <Mr18> BlackBox, I do not see the wireless network at all.
[21:35] <Mr18> It seems the Ralink card is not functioning at all.
[21:35] <jkg> hi hi. to try debug an issue I'm having with a Xen domU running Lucid, I've been advised to disable irqbalance. 'service irqbalance stop' doesn't seem to cut it ('stop: Unknown instance:'), where should I be looking?
[21:35] <jkg> I'm happy to disable it somewhere and reboot, if required
[21:36] <pero> how to instal google earth on ubuntu 10.10?
[21:36] <ignitedcoding> Hey.. trying to install photoshop cs2 on Ubuntu with WINE. However, after I stick the cd in the drive ubuntu refuses to let wine run it because the setup.exe needs to first be given executable (+x) permissions. It's a cd, I can't modify that. Do I have to copy the entire cd to the hard drive and install it from there?
[21:36] <BlackBox> Mr18: Can you see your wireless card under system specs
[21:36] <Mr18> BlackBox, How?
[21:36] <Typh> Is there any way to automatically map users to other users when using ssh?
[21:36] <Dazza71> final question guys virtual box on unbuntu is it safe to use any windows based programs without fear of getting viruses
[21:36] <Typh> I hate forgetting to type user@server
[21:37] <mhahe> good evening. after running top in CLI and reading the VM content there are two values that are confussing me.. it says my vsize is 140G and then next to that there is framework vsize, which is 1G. whats the difference between the two?
[21:37] <Typh> and while I'm at it, what is "nomodeset" and why is it the answer to everything
[21:37] <wish^> I have a problem, for some reason i can slide my mouse out of my laptops screen as if i have 2 screens.. and the desktop simply scrolls to a blank area with nothing
[21:37] <crack05> Hi All , can I make backup
[21:37] <jkg> pero: you'll want to set up the medibuntu repository (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Medibuntu) then it should just be sudo aptitude install googleearth
[21:37] <crack05> I had lost my graphic interface , I wana do backup
[21:37] <inphernal> How do I move my WIN7 recovery partition?
[21:38] <guntbert> Typh: for (1): create a shell script myssh....
[21:38] <BlackBox> Mr18: i have no idea just looking now
[21:38] <wish^> I have a problem, for some reason i can slide my mouse out of my laptops screen as if i have 2 screens.. and the desktop simply scrolls to a blank area with nothing
[21:38] <guntbert> !repeat | wish^
[21:39] <wish^> sorry :(
[21:39]  * ignitedcoding shakes head a wish^
[21:39] <wish^> hehe
[21:39] <ignitedcoding> :)
[21:39] <irieKEN> Howdy folks. Anyone know of why my laptop is still beeping at startup and shutdown, even though I've disabled both the pcspkr and snd_pcsp modules? (not POST beeps, btw);) I've been digging all over google and the forums, but haven't come up with anything that works.
[21:40] <irieKEN> wish^: I've seen that happen when your x resolution is set to something higher than your display can support; you'll get "panning".
[21:41] <wish^> yes irieKEN that is the problem, do you think it might be adjustable in the nvidia x server settings?
[21:41] <irieKEN> wish^: It probably is. Was it ever working properly?
[21:42] <BlackBox> Mrhttp://embraceubuntu.com/2007/02/18/find-hardware-specs-details-on-your-computer/18:     Then look for Network and wireless
[21:43] <radi> just use lspci -.-
[21:43] <FredFlinstone> ANYONE shoudl i install everything with the word samba in it? an what is samba 4 do i want that?
[21:44] <FredFlinstone> gotta be a way to wake it up
[21:44]  * jkg answers his own irqbalance question, doh, that was actually pretty straightforward :)
[21:44] <radi> did you tried samba's web site ? :P
[21:44] <irieKEN> wish^: Ignoring my response/inquest for further information?
[21:45] <ActionParsnip> FredFlinstone: just install samba, thats all you need
[21:45] <jef91> I have libflashplayer.so in my ~/.mozilla/plugins folder and firefox still doesn't see any plugins... Anyone have any idea what else I need to do for flash to work?
[21:45] <FredFlinstone> a friend has come over with win 7b lappie, it connected to everything ok
[21:45] <crack05> I had lost my graphic interface , I wana do backup
[21:46] <FredFlinstone> its the ubuntu bozx, but what exactly, and how can i fidn out?
[21:48] <o2simo20> hi all
[21:48] <o2simo20> need a little help
[21:48] <coolman> quelqu'un parle francais?
[21:49] <o2simo20> runnin ubuntu 10.10 atm, and have a issue with the 'stock' emerald
[21:49] <rww> coolman: English here. #ubuntu-fr for French.
[21:49] <coolman> thank you
[21:49] <o2simo20> not emerald, but the one that is standard
[21:50] <o2simo20> whats the name of it, is it a 'window manager'
[21:50] <aeon-ltd> o2simo20: metacity comes with gnome
[21:50] <KM0201> wow, rock on netsplit
[21:51] <rww> o2simo20: compiz?
[21:51] <o2simo20> yeah im runnin compiz
[21:51] <o2simo20> but the 'module' that renders the 'skin' of the os
[21:51] <o2simo20> like the open, close, maximise etc
[21:51] <o2simo20> decoration?
[21:52] <Godfather_> im trying to install libapache2-mod-php5, but when i load a .php i my browser automatically download it, any ideas? do i have to modify anything in httpd.conf ?
[21:52] <o2simo20> isn't loading when i start up, i have to select System>Preferences>Appearance for all the decorations to load
[21:52] <resixian> o2simo20: you mean for any decorations or just the ones you like?
[21:53] <o2simo20> just the 'new wave' one that i use
[21:53] <o2simo20> it has stopt loadin when i start up
[21:53] <o2simo20> i just get basic colours, until i click the appearance options, and then it sorts itself out
[21:53] <exa> Hi! Is there a way to see all windows in irssi? =(
[21:54] <itaylor57> exa: how do you mean?
[21:55] <Nitrodist> I have a broken wubi grub and I'm a bit lost as to how to boot back into ubuntu to get it back. I'm running 10.04.
[21:55] <exa> @itaylor57: I want to see all windows like NickServ, Channels etc. in a sidebar, is that posible?  I'm new to irssi ;)
[21:56] <MichealH> exa: You could ask in #irssi ?
[21:56] <exa> ok
[21:58] <Winston_Wolf> How the hell can I connect to forestnetẞ
[21:59] <Carbon357> nice
[21:59] <Godfather_> im trying to install libapache2-mod-php5, but when i load a .php i my browser automatically download it, any ideas? do i have to modify anything in httpd.conf ?
[21:59] <quentusrex> Godfather_, close your browser completely.
[21:59] <quentusrex> all windows.
[21:59] <Nitrodist> I have a broken wubi grub and I'm a bit lost as to how to boot back into ubuntu to get it back. I'm running 10.04 and I have a "grub>" prompt and access to the C: drive of my windows from the prompt.
[21:59] <quentusrex> Godfather_, also, google the issue. There are many posts talking about how to fix that problem.
[21:59] <area51pilot> Godfather: use synaptic or apt-get install +file name+
[21:59] <Godfather_> quentusrex, i google it, and i have php5 installed
[22:00] <lul> lul
[22:00] <Humble> guys whats the channel for backtrack ?
[22:00] <crickj> Godfather_: restart apache (sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 restart)
[22:00] <rww> Humble: #backtrack-linux
[22:00] <Humble> rww thanks alot
[22:00] <Nitrodist> crickj, wouldn't that be /etc/init.d/httpd restart ?
[22:00] <Godfather_> crickj, i did that
[22:01] <Godfather_> Nitrodist, nope
[22:01]  * crack05 is away (Gone)
[22:01] <quentusrex> Godfather_, have you closed your browser completely?
[22:01] <rww> ubottu: tell CRACK05 about away
[22:01] <zroysch> how long is it supposed to take ubuntuone to synchronize my files? its been sitting here saying "synchronization in progress" for at least the last hour. 0%
[22:01] <rww> lolbottu.
[22:01] <crickj> Godfather_: also check the apache config files
[22:02] <quentusrex> your browser caches the webpages it gets, and most of the time a simple reboot of the apache service after the install of the package fixes it. But your browser will make it seem still broken if you have not completely closed the browser.
[22:03] <lul> soup
[22:03] <Godfather_> crickj, i didnt see anything about php in apache2.conf
[22:04] <w4rd> anyone know a way I can limit concurrent http connections to a given host?
[22:04] <nikhatzi> hello people... do you know any webcam with embedded mic which works fine with ubuntu? (i want the mic to work too)
[22:04] <aertyu> hi
[22:04] <aertyu> i got a small question ?
[22:05] <erUSUL> w4rd: probably the http daemon you use can be configured for max allowed connections? or maybe some iptables ( ratelimit ? )
[22:05] <crickj> Godfather: php5 install via the package manager should add configuration for you
[22:06] <crickj> Godfather_:  https://help.ubuntu.com/8.04/serverguide/C/php5.html might help
[22:06] <Godfather_> crickj, http://pastebin.com/ZF5CqsCd
[22:06] <w4rd> erUSUL: i don't have control over the endpoint, it's a third-party web service that only allows 5 concurrent connections - i need some way to limit to 5 from my end
[22:06] <Godfather_> crickj, php5 is already installed
[22:07] <Godfather_> crickj, i have already installed those packages..
[22:07] <aertyu> i got 2 remote host, from a localhost i do a scp file1 from Remote host1 to remote host2 over an ssh connection from localhost if turn my localhost pc it will still continue to copy or not ?
[22:07] <Jemt> How can I disable access to floppy, cd-rom, network (LAN & WiFi) and USB storage? Is it possible to remove the user from certain groups ?
[22:07] <erUSUL> w4rd: http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/187
[22:07] <aertyu> i got 2 remote host, from a localhost IF i do a scp file1 from Remote host1 to remote host2 over an ssh connection from localhost if turn my localhost pc it will still continue to copy or not ?
[22:07] <crickj> Godfather_: you might find php mod in the mods-available dir - you need to symlink it to the mods-enables dir
[22:07] <zroysch> how long is it supposed to take ubuntu one to synchronize my files? its been sitting here saying "synchronization in progress" for at least the last hour. 0%
[22:07] <aertyu> i got 2 remote host, from a localhost IF i do a scp file1 from Remote host1 to remote host2 over an ssh connection from localhost if i turn  OFF my localhost pc it will still continue to copy or not ?
[22:08] <w4rd> erUSUL: i need to limit outbound connections though
[22:08] <itaylor57> !repeat | aertyu
[22:08] <erUSUL> Jemt: maybe if you remove them from plugdev floppy you are half there. then use /etc/network/interfaces instead of network manager to configure network?
[22:08] <aertyu> ! itaylor57 don't be like a bot
[22:08] <Jemt> erUSUL: That might work, thank you :)
[22:09] <Godfather_> crickj, http://pastebin.com/vjPxGPkA
[22:09] <erUSUL> w4rd: /join #netfilter ?
[22:09] <zroysch> how long is it supposed to take ubuntu one to synchronize my files? its been sitting here saying "synchronization in progress" for at least the last hour. 0%
[22:09] <rww> aertyu: itaylor57 and ubottu's advice to you was valid. I recommend following it.
[22:09] <itaylor57> ty rww :)
[22:09] <derick_> is it possible with network-manager to connect on boot like wicd?
[22:09] <Godfather_> crickj, as you see i have nothing in mods-available.
[22:10] <derickxx> is it possible with network-manager to connect on boot like wicd?
[22:10] <aertyu> please read what i written, i m not spamming and on the last sentence there more vocabulary than the rest
[22:10] <aertyu> re read
[22:10] <KM0201> derickxx: you mean like for network manager to auto connect to a wireless network?
[22:10] <derickxx> KM0201, yes
[22:10] <KM0201> derickxx: well of course it is.
[22:10] <derickxx> KM0201, while booting
[22:10] <rww> aertyu: Perhaps you should correct yourself before sending three almost-identical questions in less than a minute, then.
[22:11] <aertyu> bref
[22:11] <KM0201> derickxx: well, all i know is when i sign on, i'm online... i don't have to enter passwords, etc.
[22:11] <aertyu> do you understand my questioN ? rww
[22:11] <Nitrodist> crickj, wouldn't that be /etc/init.d/httpd restart ?
[22:11] <Nitrodist> oops
[22:11] <derickxx> KM0201, and before login?
[22:11] <KM0201> derickxx: i dunno about before.. i never tried to get online before login
[22:11] <crickj> Nitrodist: not on my machine
[22:12] <Godfather_> crickj, any ideas?
[22:12] <Godfather_> Nitrodist, in my machine is also /etc/init.d/apache2 restart
[22:12] <crickj> Godfather_: i've never had a problem when installing php5 libapache2-mod-php5 packages
[22:12] <rww> aertyu: yes
[22:12] <Nitrodist> Godfather_, word.
[22:12] <wilhart> what's the point with gnome3???
[22:13] <wilhart> no x-screen NO compiz NO nothing?
[22:13] <aertyu> if yes what is it possible ? rww
[22:13] <crickj> Godfather_: there is a generic LAMP package somewhere that installs and configures apache + php for you - try searching the repos for that
[22:13] <erUSUL> !lamp
[22:13] <KM0201> wilhart: well, no compiz... thats a bonus if you ask me.. but you have to remember, it is still beta.
[22:13] <rww> wilhart: Try asking in #ubuntu-offtopic. Ubuntu isn't shipping GNOME 3 yet, so it's offtopic for this channel.
[22:13] <Godfather_> Nitrodist, word?
[22:13] <erUSUL> crickj: Godfather_ sudo tasksel install lamp-server
[22:13] <Nitrodist> Godfather_, the word is the bird.
[22:13] <rww> aertyu: I'm not sure, but I'd guess not. I don't generally give answers if I don't know, hence me not doing so.
[22:13] <KM0201> wilhart: or maybe ask in #gnome ?
[22:13] <wilhart> nah
[22:13] <wilhart> installled it tried and blah
[22:14] <zroysch> how long is it supposed to take ubuntu one to synchronize my files? its been sitting here saying "synchronization in progress" for at least the last hour. 0%
[22:14] <aertyu> ok an other question
[22:14] <KM0201> wilhart: well, i like gnome 2.32  it's simplicity is a good halfway between simple, easy to use, while not being to heavy.
[22:14] <Godfather_> erUSUL, and now?
[22:15] <kholby> So, I'm dual booting ubuntu and Vista and having issues with the time in Vista.  I set hwclock to localtime, but no fix.  Time is always right in Linux, but when I booted in just now I checked hwclock and it was utc.  I check a couple minutes later and hwclock was localtime.
[22:15] <erUSUL> Godfather_: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP
[22:15] <aertyu> when you do apt-get install software there are line scrolling from UP to down i want to scroll it from down to UP is that possible ?
[22:15] <histo> kholby: so why are you asking here?  Time is off in vista has nothing to do with ubuntu
[22:15] <wilhart> KM0201, yep i use gnome ,x-screens
[22:16] <kholby> It has to do with ubuntu's hwclock.
[22:16] <histo> aertyu: what do you mean?
[22:16] <kholby> Vista reads the hwclock as localtime.  Ubuntu by default sets it as utc.  I changed that, but the change doesn't seem to stick.
[22:16] <rww> kholby: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuTime is the go-to page for this sort of problem.
[22:16] <kholby> rww:   Thanks.
[22:16] <histo> kholby: ubuntu can't set the clock in teh bios
[22:16] <KM0201> aertyu: the easiest way to change that... i sto change the "scrollback" in the terminal preferences, to some ridiculous number.. i have mine set to 50k... so i can always scroll back
[22:16] <rww> kholby: I have noticed that getting it set up right is rather fiddly, though. Might take a few times to stick :(
[22:17] <rww> histo: Yes, it can.
[22:17] <KM0201> aertyu: i do the same thing to xchat.
[22:17] <aertyu> when you do apt-get install software there are line scrolling from DOWN to UP  i want to scroll it from  UP to DOWN is that possible ?
[22:17] <o2simo20> rww: sort of know what the issue is now
[22:17] <o2simo20> but dont know how to solve it
[22:17] <valros> Could anyone help me debug an ssh timeout problem on my LAN?
[22:17] <crickj1> aertyu: turn the screen upside down
[22:17] <KM0201> aertyu: oh wait, nevermind...
[22:17] <rww> o2simo20: I don't use GNOME, so I'm probably not the best person to ask about Compiz/Metacity problems ;)
[22:17] <Nitrodist> I have a broken wubi grub and I'm a bit lost as to how to boot back into ubuntu to get it back. I'm running 10.04 and I have a "grub>" prompt. Also, the guides/forum posts about it point to my C:\ubuntu\disks/root.disk file but that file doesn't even exist for myself.
[22:17] <histo> rww: no it only adds or takes away time from it. It doesn't actually change the bios time
[22:17] <aertyu> lol
[22:17] <aertyu> tell me serious
[22:17] <o2simo20> its ok mate, it's a nautilus issue
[22:18] <rww> histo: Yes, it does.
[22:18] <o2simo20> because all other windows render ok, i think when i installed gloobus it has smashed nautilis
[22:18] <histo> aertyu: you want your temrinal to scroll the reverse way
[22:18] <histo> rww: No you are insane
[22:18] <jeus> how can help to install mysql 5.5 on ubuntu ?
[22:18] <o2simo20> histo thats not productive
[22:18] <rww> histo: Well yes, but I'm still right :)
[22:19] <aertyu> yes
[22:19] <aertyu> yes histo
[22:19] <rww> histo: You may find, for example, 'man hwclock' interesting.
[22:19] <shaw1337> #gsoc
[22:19] <mawst> On the reals man...
[22:19] <jeus> I want install mysql 5.5 and i dont know what do
[22:19] <kholby> rww:   I figured it was a config file somewhere.  Thanks.  Gonna reboot now and see what happens...
[22:19] <mawst> Anyone having a lot of compiz crashes in the past few days?
[22:19] <kholby> histo:   You're wrong.  I does change it.
[22:19] <o2simo20> so rww do you know what command i use to 're-stanll' or reverse the upgrade to gloobus/ nautilus
[22:20] <crickj> jeus: sudo apt-get install mysql-server
[22:20] <o2simo20> *re-install
[22:20] <valros> Okay, so within the lan, D can ssh to L, but L cant ssh into D, why? Yes the device is reachable. No ufw is not installed.
[22:20] <jeus> crickj, i want install mysql 5.5
[22:20] <histo> aertyu: hrm.. let me think on that one
[22:20] <histo> rww: interesting
[22:20] <jcmartinez> mawst: I have experienced some crashes on compiz
[22:20] <jeus> crickj, and is not in repository
[22:20] <jcmartinez> mawst: but only using unity, and in the alpha-1 version of natty
[22:20] <mawst> It never used to crash on me...
[22:21] <mawst> I'm in mav...
[22:21] <aertyu> ok take your time histo
[22:21] <mawst> It has to be something recent that changed...
[22:21] <jeus> crickj, iwant install from here http://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/5.5/en/binary-installation.html
[22:21] <FredFlinstone> on thisp age https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountWindowsSharesPermanently  what does this mean?
[22:21] <FredFlinstone> Note: Regretfully as from version 3.3.2-1ubuntu3.2 (October 2009) this approach is no longer possible together with the "user" option. A security fix prevents reading the credentials file if you don't have read access to it. You will have to pin the packages at version 3.3.2-1ubuntu3 or 3.3.2-1ubuntu3.1 to continue using this approach as non-root.
[22:21] <jcmartinez> mawst: no, on maverick is working ok for me, I didn't know about regular crashes, did you install something new?
[22:22] <sonorus> hi, how to save a game in PCSX emulator ??
[22:22] <Jemt> Odd. I have just created a new user called "limited". I have revoked ALL privileges (including "Connect to wireless and ethernet networks" - but I can still connect)
[22:22] <rww> ubottu: pm | o2simo20
[22:22] <Jemt> What's wrong ?
[22:22] <aertyu> use windows sonorus
[22:22] <histo> aertyu: you know you can scrollback rigth?
[22:22] <sonorus> aertyu ????
[22:23] <aertyu> i simply want reverse scrolling
[22:23] <crickj> jeus: make a dir for mysql to reside in (eg /opt/mysql5.5) and unpack the tar archive in that location
[22:23] <o2simo20> oops sorry
[22:23] <KM0201> aertyu: i'm not awaer of any terminal app that has that option... you'd probably have to write it
[22:23] <rww> o2simo20: and no, I don't know how you'd revert to a previous version of a package. I've never had to do it :\
[22:23] <sonorus> i have a bug when try to save/load game from memory card on PCSXwr... how to save a game ?
[22:23] <FredFlinstone> version 3.3.2-1ubuntu3.2 wtf?
[22:24] <jeus> crickj, i do this
[22:24] <FredFlinstone> no longer possible together with the "user" option?
[22:24] <histo> aertyu: I don't know of a way to always make it backwards.
[22:24] <FredFlinstone> You will have to pin the packages at?
[22:24] <o2simo20> what command do i use to reverse a upgrade? apt-get update or apt-get install it mentions that i have the latest version, does anyone know how to revert or downgrade
[22:24] <FredFlinstone> can someone explain this?
[22:24] <aertyu> ok
[22:24] <histo> aertyu: shift page up to scroll back though
[22:25] <crickj> Jeus: the server can be started view /opt/mysql5.5/bin/mysqld
[22:25] <jeus> crickj, icant find this
[22:26] <jwormy> I have a new core i7 that I just installed ubuntu 64bit on a SATA SSD. Using all default partition configurations and ubuntu 10.10...  The install goes fine, and I have used the 10.10 'live CD' fine. After install the machine reboots and after the bios post, the screen goes black and nothing happens
[22:26] <aertyu> thta's not histo leave it thanks a lot
[22:26] <jeus> crickj, i cant find /opt/mysql 5.5/bin
[22:26] <joshmclvl1> jeus: `locate mysqld`?
[22:26] <crickj> jeus: the package should contain the mysqld file somewhere
[22:26] <jwormy> I have previously successfully installed ubuntu 10.04 32bit on the machine fine, but decided to install 64bit version to recognize all 12gb of memory
[22:26] <craiggles> hey guys, trying to install rarcrack but when i `make` i get.. rarcrack.h:25: fatal error: libxml/xmlmemory.h: No such file or directory .. is there some kind of xml-library i'll need to install beforehand?
[22:27] <rww> !find xmlmemory.h
[22:27] <rww> craiggles: install libxml2-dev package
[22:27] <craiggles> cheers.
[22:27] <FredFlinstone> can i buy supoort here? i need some help , 19 hours now
[22:28] <erUSUL> !ask | FredFlinstone
[22:28] <aertyu> during a ssh connection to an machine if you run for example a command like apt-get install takingtimesofware and if you quit the ssh connection the remote machine still online do you end the apt or it continue to work ?
[22:28] <Jordan_U> FredFlinstone: http://www.canonical.com/consumer-services/support
[22:28] <rww> FredFlinstone: Ubuntu's complete list of support options, including paid support, are linked at http://www.ubuntu.com/support . I'd recommend trying the other community-based ones first.
[22:28] <FredFlinstone> can i buy some help thru paypal?
[22:28] <FredFlinstone> ok
[22:29] <Skater0Guy> im trying to build dolphin and everytime i type sudo get-apt i get this Sorry, user skaterguy is not allowed to execute
[22:29] <CarlFK> FredFlinstone http://www.ubuntu.com/support/services
[22:29] <FredFlinstone> COMMUNITY STUFF? NOPE, i have been reading wrong pages enough
[22:29] <rww> FredFlinstone: I don't see http://askubuntu.com/ linked on that support page yet, but that's another option as well as the forums :)
[22:29] <CarlFK> aertyu: that will kill the apt-get.  look at the screen command to keep it alive
[22:30] <FredFlinstone> i am asking one of you to see me through and i will pay you if i must :)
[22:30] <ezrafree> hello
[22:30] <ezrafree> i recently upgraded thunderbird and ever since i keep getting a popup that says "Unable to find specified executable"
[22:31] <ezrafree> i've tried switching out /usr/bin/notify-send to /usr/bin/notify-osd but this still does not fix the problem. any ideas?
[22:31] <craiggles> with `rarcrack file.7z` i'm getting a segmentation error.
[22:31] <aertyu> ok i get CarlFK but screen command it is not for sharing terminal ?
[22:31] <crickj> Skater0Guy: your user account must be in the sudoers file to use sudo
[22:31] <crickj> see man sudoers
[22:31] <CarlFK> aertyu: what?
[22:31] <Skater0Guy> how do i do that
[22:31] <aertyu> you said : aertyu: that will kill the apt-get. look at the screen command to keep it alive
[22:31] <Skater0Guy> crickj: how do i
[22:32] <aertyu> but what i say is the screen is it not for sharing the terminal screen to an other user ?
[22:32] <CarlFK> aertyu: it can do that too.
[22:32] <aertyu> ok fine
[22:32] <FredFlinstone> oh man they don't even have a phone number you can call? i need support now, not someday
[22:32] <FredFlinstone> SO i am asking one of you to see me through and i will pay you if i must :)
[22:32] <aertyu> thanks a l ot CarlFK
[22:33] <KM0201> FredFlinstone: lol, what on earth are you trying to do that is so important?
[22:33] <jwormy> I recently installed ubuntu 10.10 64bit on a new corei7. Install goes fine but after the machine restarts (with the correct HD set as the boot device) nothing happens after the BIOS POST message. Ubuntu 10.10 works fine from the 'Test it out' CD option
[22:33] <FredFlinstone> prevent a STRESS ATTACK
[22:33] <FredFlinstone> and other things
[22:33] <normandy> trying to update qt4 so i can install skype, i get this:   libqt4-core: Depends: libqtcore4 (= 4.5.3really4.5.2-0ubuntu1) but it is not installable
[22:33] <KM0201> FredFlinstone: well, for that you need a doctor and alcohol, not technical support
[22:33] <normandy> why are they not installable, never esen this before
[22:33] <bluespark> hi! Is it possible to play two different sounds on headphones and internal speakers at the same time? thanks
[22:34] <billy_> soy nuevo en ubuntu .. pero por que todo sale en ingles ??
[22:34] <crickj> Skater0Guy: actually, your user account just needs to be a member of the sudo group, usually
[22:34] <sophoclius> bonsoir, j' ai besoin d' aide
[22:34] <rww> !es | billy_
[22:34] <KM0201> FredFlinstone: so what is the problem exactly?
[22:34] <billy_> ok .. gracias
[22:35] <georg_> guten abend
[22:35] <FredFlinstone>  because i want it done now, (been at it since yesterday) there is somethign wronmg with me?
[22:35] <Skater0Guy> crickj: i feel like an idiot
[22:35] <KM0201> .. what ..is...the...problem...
[22:35] <FredFlinstone> now my hands are shaking
[22:35] <crickj> Skater0Guy: why?
[22:35] <FredFlinstone> why you guys give me a hard time?
[22:36] <KM0201> FredFlinstone: lol, i'mn ot giving youa  hard time, i've asked repeatedly what the problem is, and all you talk abouot is your hands shaking and being frustrated and how mean we are
[22:36] <jwormy> FredFlinstone: maybe it would be best if you calm down a bit and come back with a level head to ask for help. No one is giving you a hard time.
[22:36] <ezrafree> FredFlinstone: state your problem and include as much details as you can, and maybe someone can help you
[22:37] <bluespark> hi! Is it possible to play two different sounds on headphones and internal speakers at the same time? thanks
[22:37] <FredFlinstone> if you have been here since yesterday, then you know i have been trying to get help, and i dont think i have a bad attitude , bu i am gettin impatienrt, yes ,it almost day 3
[22:37] <ezrafree> bluespark: i think that would require a sound card with two outputs
[22:37] <KM0201> FredFlinstone: well for the benefit of those who've not hung on every word you've said here, perhaps you could repeat your problem
[22:37] <KM0201> FredFlinstone: cuz i've been here since yesterday, and i don't know...
[22:37] <FredFlinstone> i shall try
[22:38] <bluespark> ezrafree; thanks, I have laptop and built in stuff? I should try maybe USB speakers or USB sound card?
[22:38] <FredFlinstone> followed a bad page or two to try to set up fstab to have win shares mounted every boot, now i am on a page that i cannot follow without help
[22:38] <billy_> I can help in ubuntu install corel !!!
[22:38] <billy_> I'm new .. although I have improved and I have several programs still need the corel dreamvewer for some web design
[22:39] <FredFlinstone> so if some1` willing to help i can show them wher i left off
[22:39] <KM0201> FredFlinstone: i guess i'm curious, why would you go to that hassle, when you can mount a NTFS drive by just going to places menu, and selecting the drive when you boot up
[22:39] <david553> I read that ssh2 allows several shells on the same ssh connection. I use the ssh connection to connect to remote machines, how do I see a second shell without using screen ?
[22:39] <ezrafree> bluespark: nd card sounds coming out at once
[22:40] <ezrafree> damnit
[22:40] <FredFlinstone> go here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountWindowsSharesPermanently search for this - this will ensure that only root can access this file.  - read the next paragraph and help me understand it
[22:40] <FredFlinstone> no i cant
[22:40] <ezrafree> bluespark: you would need one soundcard with two outputs to do that
[22:40] <FredFlinstone> resixian, nautilus nwetwork browse fails too - failed to retrieve share list ..
[22:40] <KM0201> FredFlinstone: so this is something you're trying to set up.. that is on another machine?
[22:40] <FredFlinstone> oops
[22:41] <FredFlinstone> resixian was trying to help me, thanks dude
[22:41] <bluespark> ezrafree; OK. thanks again... :)
[22:41] <FredFlinstone> i can see all my mahcines from each other the only one sick is ubuntu
[22:41] <FredFlinstone> it cannot see win shares
[22:42] <crickj> FredFlinstone: have you created the credentials file?
[22:42] <FredFlinstone> i got the other way going thru trial and error , and nobody told me to wait 5 minutes after restarting samba grrrrr
[22:42] <FredFlinstone> that cost me hours
[22:43] <KM0201> FredFlinstone: so what happens when you go to places/network ?
[22:43] <FredFlinstone> crickj, yes
[22:43] <FredFlinstone> failed to retrieve share list ..
[22:43] <FredFlinstone> failed to retrieve share list from server
[22:43] <guampa> FredFlinstone: tried using smbmount?
[22:43] <jwormy> sorry to keep asking again, but I just did an install with 10.10 64bit and after restarting after the install the machine will not boot into ubuntu. Doesn't seem to hit grub or anyting. The HD it is installed on is the bootable harddrive in my BIOS and I used the default partition setup.
[22:43] <FredFlinstone> guampa, nope im a noob, how?
[22:44] <crickj> FredFlinstone: have you edited fstab?
[22:44] <guampa> first check if you have it installed
[22:44] <ikonia> jwormy: what do you see
[22:44] <guampa> try to run "smbmount" in a terminal
[22:44] <bryhoyt> Hello, I've had this attack on my Ubuntu 8.10: http://lists.exim.org/lurker/message/20101207.215955.bb32d4f2.en.html
[22:44] <valros> how can i disable iptables?
[22:44] <ikonia> bryhoyt: what od you want us to do about it ?
[22:44] <crickj> valros: sudo ufw disable
[22:44] <KM0201> valros: i believe its off by default
[22:44] <FredFlinstone> i tried many variations in fstab
[22:44] <bryhoyt> I know 8.10 isn't supported anymore, but I'm a bit desperate. Does anyone have any experience with that attack?
[22:44] <bryhoyt> It's related to exim4.69
[22:45] <ikonia> bryhoyt: what do you want us to actually do about it ?
[22:45] <FredFlinstone> i really need to reboot to be sure wher i am at NOW
[22:45] <jwormy> ikonia: black screen of nothing..  display goes into power save mode due to the lack of input
[22:45] <valros> isnt ufw separate from iptables?
[22:45] <FredFlinstone> gimme 2 min
[22:45] <bryhoyt> and that's the latest version in the repositories, so I can't upgrade: how do I upgrade?
[22:45] <gonzojive_> I'm getting a purple screen of death when I start up :(
[22:45] <jwormy> ikonia: I installed ubuntu 10.04 32bit on the same machine earlier with no problems at all.
[22:45] <crickj> FredFlinstone: you'll need a reboot anyway after editing fstab
[22:45] <jwormy> and then ubuntu 10.10 64bit 'live cd' works great
[22:45] <skulltip> why would firefox or chrome load slowly
[22:45] <ikonia> bryhoyt: you can't, that 8.10 is dead
[22:45] <ikonia> jwormy: what video card do you have ?
[22:45] <crickj> valros: ufw is a frontend to iptables
[22:45] <guampa> crickj: actually a "mount -a" is all you need
[22:46] <gonzojive_> just tried to upgrade from lts 10.04 to 10.10, but my computer froze halfway through the "install" process of the network upgrade
[22:46] <crickj> guampa: oh yea - forgot that one
[22:46] <FredFlinstone> ok trying mount -a ..
[22:46] <valros> well its disabled but still no go, port 22 seems blocked
[22:46] <bryhoyt> ikonia: I know. But our mailserver's down, and I was hoping someone could give me a quick fix
[22:46] <bryhoyt> any ideas?
[22:46] <ikonia> bryhoyt: there isn't one
[22:46] <ikonia> bryhoyt: 8.10 is dead, so there is no where to get an update from
[22:47] <bryhoyt> yep
[22:47] <bryhoyt> so compile from source, I guess?
[22:47] <ikonia> bryhoyt: don't use non-lts distros for production servers, that's the answer
[22:47] <bryhoyt> or will that be a dead end, too?
[22:47] <FredFlinstone> mount error(110): Connection timed out
[22:47] <FredFlinstone> again :)
[22:47] <bryhoyt> thanks, ikonia, lesson learnt ;-)
[22:47] <crickj> valros: external firewall?
[22:47] <FredFlinstone> no sense rebooting is there?
[22:47] <FredFlinstone> LOL
[22:47] <ikonia> bryhoyt: I wouldn't put compilers and development headers on an internet facing mail server, that's lesson 02
[22:47] <valros> only intermediate device is dd-wrt
[22:47] <bryhoyt> ikonia: good point
[22:47] <guampa> FredFlinstone: tried with smbmount or not?
[22:47] <valros> and its not blocking other machines
[22:48] <crickj> FredFlinstone: check ubuntu's firewall
[22:48] <FredFlinstone> guampa, it is install, so
[22:49] <valros> how could i fully reset the firewall and ssh settings? reinstall openssh-server and ufw?
[22:49] <crickj> valros: ufw reset
[22:49] <guampa> FredFlinstone: so, try to build a command line with it to connect to the share...it is the backend for what you use in fstab anyway
[22:49] <jwormy> ikonia: PNY  Quadro FX 380 256mb..  video displays fine in install and using CD 'try it out'
[22:49] <guampa> one you have it working from command line, fstab is almost the same
[22:50] <ikonia> jwormy: Hmmm, do you get nothing from power on to where you are now on screen
[22:50] <bryhoyt> ikonia: do you know anything about that vulnerability? For a quick fix, for 1 week, (until we have a chance to upgrade to an LTS and fix some root problems), would removing gcc be safe enough?
[22:50] <valros> still nothing
[22:50] <FredFlinstone> -o options part?
[22:50] <guampa> FredFlinstone: correcto mondo
[22:50] <ikonia> bryhoyt: up to you, I wouldn't do it
[22:51] <FredFlinstone> no i mean do i need options or just -o
[22:51] <jwormy> ikonia: I get the typical BIOS post and all that, just whne it starts to boot the OS it just...  goes black and then quickly you see the monitor going into power save mode due to no input
[22:51] <ikonia> jwormy: do you see any part of the boot process
[22:51] <jwormy> ikonia: same hardware setup with 10.04 32bit worked great.
[22:51] <jwormy> ikonia: nope, no part of the boot process at all
[22:51] <guampa> FredFlinstone:  -o means "options start here" and you need the options, check "man smbmount"
[22:52] <FredFlinstone> yeah i am a guy who needs examples , not gettin git , yet
[22:52] <guampa> FredFlinstone: you need "user=", "password="
[22:52] <bryhoyt> ikonia: neither :-) except the alternative isn't much better (we can't quite live without our mailserver at the moment). So I'm trying to get a feel for what level of risk I'd be taking
[22:52] <bryhoyt> ikonia: but point taken, thanks
[22:52] <FredFlinstone> i need creds , any thing else?
[22:52] <ikonia> jwormy: that's very very odd
[22:52] <guampa> FredFlinstone: the share is in a windows domain or just a workgroup¿
[22:52] <guampa> ?
[22:52] <jwormy> ikonia: I agree!
[22:53] <jwormy> ikonia: for giggles I coudl try installing on a different harddrive and moving my BIOS boot to that one
[22:53] <Batags> how do yyou get an upside down ?   ?
[22:53] <Batags> lol
[22:53] <jwormy> ikonia: but I would rather leave the OS on the SSD.. ;)
[22:53] <Tonus> bryhoyt, you could consider replacing exim with postfix, if you're up for it and know how to migrate the configuration. this I wouldn't do if the configuration isn't very simple to begin with.
[22:54] <FredFlinstone> guampa, workgroup
[22:54] <guampa> Batags: latin american keyboard ;)
[22:54] <Batags> nice
[22:54] <Batags> thanks ill have to get one
[22:54] <kakashi__> please i wanna to install beowulf clustering in ubuntu but i dont know what services i should to install??
[22:54] <bryhoyt> Tonus: thanks, that a helpful idea. But yeah, in this case the config migration is probably not straightforward. Nothing too serious, but we have a couple mailing lists & virtual hosts config
[22:54] <FredFlinstone> AH HAH
[22:54] <toyman61> No sound from YouTube-videos. Error message in syslog:  "Error opening PCM device front:0: Device or resource busy". How can I find out which process who is holding the device ?  Ubuntu 10.04
[22:54] <FredFlinstone> unknown eror openin cred file
[22:55] <Tonus> bryhoyt, that's probably too risky on a production environment then. unless you have a test environment, or set up one, virtually perhaps.
[22:55] <FredFlinstone> I DID sudo chown root .smbcredentials AND sudo chmod 600 .smbcredentials
[22:55] <bryhoyt> Tonus: thanks anyway :-)
[22:56] <kakashi__> how can i install beowulf clustering ??
[22:56] <guampa> FredFlinstone: what command line did you use? (use dummy user/pass/machine etc)
[22:56] <FredFlinstone> i do exactly what things say but it DONT LIKE ME
[22:56] <FredFlinstone> the page is above
[22:57] <FredFlinstone> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountWindowsSharesPermanently
[22:57] <guampa> FredFlinstone:  with that psycho attitude i'm stopping helping right now
[22:57] <Batags> sounds like a bunch of Ubuntu to me
[22:58] <Batags> lol
[22:58] <FredFlinstone> HOWEVER I was  first on this = https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently, which is maybe wrong?
[22:58] <crickj> FredFlinstone: with a timeout message it sounds as if the error is not do do with smbcredentials or fstab
[22:58] <guampa> calm down, stop shouting man
[22:58] <Chaos2358> quick question. does anyone know "for sure"whether the ubuntu 10.10 live download will fit on a 700 mb cd?
[22:58] <Drek010> hi
[22:58] <Eber> guys, how can I reproduce the window management of windows 7 with ubuntu?!?
[22:59] <FredFlinstone> i did exactly what that said , more than once
[22:59] <FredFlinstone> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently, which is maybe wrong?
[22:59] <FredFlinstone> and if so i am  lost
[22:59] <resixian> FredFlinstone: did you ever try this from the cli?
[22:59] <Batags> 659mb download
[23:00] <resixian> FredFlinstone: or get any furhter even listing the shares? (e.g. smbclient -L)
[23:00] <Batags> should fit on a 700mb cd
[23:00] <crickj> FredFlinstone: try checking that the name of the file server is correct as well as the correct firewall ports are open
[23:00] <FredFlinstone> sorry for my attitude
[23:00] <guampa> i still don't know what's the command line you had used
[23:00] <Drek010> I'm having a problem running update on my ubuntu 10.10 desltop x64
[23:00] <FredFlinstone> i really DO appreciate any help
[23:00] <guampa> then act like you do
[23:01] <Chaos2358> batags ok last question i am running a laptop not a netbook. i use the desktop installation correct?
[23:01] <kakashi__> i wanna to install beowulf clustering without hard disk. but i dont know what services i chould install
[23:01] <georg_> is there a german ubuntu support?
[23:01] <FredFlinstone> resixian, i'll try that again listing the shares
[23:01] <rww> georg_: /join #ubuntu-de
[23:01] <benhamill> Does anyone mind answering some bash prompt questions, or know a better channel to ask about that in?
[23:01] <kakashi__> please help me
[23:01] <rww> benhamill: #bash might be more helpful
[23:01] <FredFlinstone> times out
[23:02] <Drek010> the message says "The action would require the installation from not authenticated sources"
[23:02] <rww> Chaos2358: You can use either, they only differ in which interface they have. I'd recommend trying Desktop first.
[23:02] <benhamill> rww: Heh. i should have just guessed. Thanks.
[23:02] <Drek010> how can i fix this?
[23:02] <Chaos2358> rww ok thank you .
[23:02] <resixian> FredFlinstone:smbclient -L -U <your windows user> does what?
[23:02] <KM0201> !helpme > kakashi__
[23:02] <FredFlinstone> please note that the sharing between these two NOW works the other way, does that tell us anything?
[23:02] <FredFlinstone> Connection to ASUS1 failed (Error NT_STATUS_UNSUCCESSFUL)
[23:03] <New0> hi guys
[23:03] <kakashi__> i wanna to install beowulf clustering without hard disk. but i dont know what services i chould install
[23:03] <FredFlinstone> asus1 sees ubuntu  fine tho
[23:03] <New0> can i ask about mysql Q here? about xampp
[23:03] <resixian> FredFlinstone: ASUS1 is the windows host?
[23:03] <FredFlinstone> yes
[23:03] <rww> ubottu: xampp | New0
[23:03] <erUSUL> !xampp
[23:03] <FredFlinstone> asus2 is the ubuntu, im not great with names :)
[23:04] <Drek010> im problems with ubuntu updates "The action would require the installation from not authenticated sources"
[23:04] <kakashi__> i wanna to install beowulf clustering without hard disk. but i dont know what services i chould install. so please help me
[23:04] <New0> well where can i get some help about it?
[23:04] <ezrafree> can anyone tell me why installing lib-notify would completely hose my system?
[23:04] <FredFlinstone> JoeSomebody helped me get started with ubuntu , but he's unable to help with this and he is maybe hiding from me :)
[23:04] <ezrafree> any ideas how i could fix this please?
[23:04] <New0> and i have problem with LAMP stack
[23:05] <rww> New0: See the support link on their website.
[23:05] <KM0201> ezrafree: what makes you think its libnotify?...
[23:05] <New0> ok
[23:05] <guampa> FredFlinstone: have you been able to connect to asus1 from another machine / os?
[23:05] <FredFlinstone> yes
[23:05] <FredFlinstone> all of them
[23:05] <trojan_spike> ezrafree, u may already have a notifer running?
[23:05] <FredFlinstone> to all of them
[23:05] <FredFlinstone> with this one exception
[23:05] <ezrafree> guampa: because everything was working until i ran the command "sudo aptitude install lib-notify"
[23:06] <resixian> FredFlinstone: how have you set up the Xp shares?
[23:06] <FredFlinstone> so frustrating
[23:06] <Drek010> can someone help me?
[23:06] <guampa> ezrafree: what?
[23:06] <New0> rww by the way it's : #1045 - Access denied for user 'root'@'localhost' (using password: NO)  and can't connect to my PHPMYADMIN so if someone can help me even in PM tnx
[23:06] <ezrafree> it removed a bunch of packages, including linux 2.6 headers
[23:06] <Drek010> "The action would require the installation from not authenticated sources"
[23:06] <Drek010> ?
[23:06] <KM0201> ezrafree: well thats probably the problem, not libnotify
[23:06] <FredFlinstone> well its xp pro, i have advanced sharing in win explorer, one user allowed, fred
[23:07] <ezrafree> KM0201: why on earth would it remove such important packages?
[23:07] <KM0201> ezrafree: without seeing what yo were doing, i dont know.. but you didn't think when you saw all that stuff it was removing, not to uninstall it?
[23:07] <resixian> FredFlinstone: so like, right click-> sharing and security-> share this folder on the network?
[23:07] <resixian> somethign like that?
[23:08] <guampa> FredFlinstone: it does look odd, but at this point (you said you chmoded / chowned samba files) you may have a corrupt samba install. I'd go for checking a) that you effectively can reach the samba tcp port on asus1 and b) purging samba completetly and reinstalling in asus2
[23:08] <FredFlinstone> no i use aadvanced sharing in xp, not simple
[23:08] <trojan_spike> is there an admin A/C ? Like oem in windows 'ctrl - Alt - f3?
[23:08] <resixian> FredFlinstone: another thing, have you tried smbclient //<ASUS1 IP addr>  -L
[23:08] <ezrafree> i guess i trusted in the removing of such a simple package way too much
[23:09] <ezrafree> what command can i run to restore my system?
[23:09] <FredFlinstone> oh man
[23:09] <FredFlinstone> DOH
[23:09] <crickj> trojan_spike: the root account has all privelages, but is not for everyday use
[23:10] <rww> !sudo | trojan_spike
[23:10] <kakashi__> i wanna to install beowulf clustering without hard disk. but i dont know what services i chould install
[23:10] <jwormy> exit
[23:11] <trojan_spike> crickj, its a xmas prezy im building for a neighbour. Have ubuntu install , have the 'prepare for end user' etc.. just need to be able to delete the premade A/C by me
[23:11] <ezrafree> what command can i run to upgrade all my packages? is it just "sudo aptitude update" ?
[23:12] <rww> ezrafree: sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude upgrade
[23:12] <guampa> FredFlinstone: that's what *I* would do, you might find another way out of the hole, ymmv. even that won't guarantee success
[23:12] <XLV> !grub
[23:12] <crickj> trojan_spike: your using the oem installer?
[23:12] <rww> ezrafree: assuming you have aptitude installed, otherwise replace "aptitude" with "apt-get" above.
[23:12] <XLV> !grub2
[23:12] <ezrafree> rww: thanks
[23:12] <trojan_spike> crickj, just from synaptic,, not DVD
[23:12] <kakashi__> how can i install a high performance cluster in ubuntu server? wich service i must install??
[23:13] <ezrafree> it looks like i can't ssh in to the box anymore either so does anyone know how i can boot it up into command line?
[23:13] <crickj> trojan_spike: i've no experience with that, sorry
[23:13] <trojan_spike> I basically just need access to ROOT login
[23:13] <dardan> dfg
[23:13] <bryhoyt> I'm trying to upgrade my Ubuntu 8.10 to the latest LTS because of a security vulnerability, and I can't upgrade the specific package (because 8.10 is so old). What's the recommended path forward?
[23:14] <dardan> cool
[23:14] <FredFlinstone> i tried setting an ip on my auto eth0, doesnt seem to help, still, - mount error(110): Connection timed out
[23:14] <ikonia> trojan_spike: why do you need root ?
[23:14] <rww> bryhoyt: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades
[23:14] <FredFlinstone> now it matches my lan 192.
[23:15] <boywonder> hi i need somthing a little off topic, im running ssh only the router company says there router dont support it,any help much abliged?
[23:15] <ezrafree> is there any way to boot into console mode?
[23:15] <dardan> root
[23:15] <ikonia> FredFlinstone: are you on the network ?
[23:15] <troy> w to get that verical slash i need for a terminal command
[23:15] <bryhoyt> rww: thanks!
[23:15] <FredFlinstone> ikonia, yes
[23:15] <dardan> only type: sudo in terminal?
[23:15] <trojan_spike> ikonia, to delete my setup A/C , and run OEM 'prepare for end user'.
[23:15] <KM0201> !upgrade | bryhoyt
[23:15] <rww> troy: if you mean |, it's shift and \
[23:15] <ikonia> trojan_spike: use sudo
[23:15] <rww> on a US keyboard, anyway
[23:15] <troy> thanks rww
[23:15] <FredFlinstone> ikonia, all machne see all machines, EXCEPT one way only on ubuntu
[23:15] <ikonia> FredFlinstone: ok, so why are you changing it to dhcp
[23:15] <ikonia> FredFlinstone: one way ?
[23:16] <FredFlinstone> and i did it before in 10.04 (i started then im new)
[23:16] <trojan_spike> awww,, smart.. :) do u know the command at all.. You have me on the right track now
[23:16] <FredFlinstone> ikonia,  i changed it to manual
[23:16] <boywonder> join #ssh
[23:16] <FredFlinstone> it didnt help
[23:16] <ikonia> FredFlinstone: why ?
[23:16] <ikonia> FredFlinstone: why change things for no reason
[23:16] <rww> KM0201: For future reference, !upgrade is for releases that are still supported; !eol has the upgrade link for unsupported releases (like 8.10) :)
[23:16] <XLV> for anyone who's interested, for both the problems ubuntu 10.10 on my laptop had ( jerky MS wireless mouse response and acpi/battery info not working ), it was the bios.. i upgraded to 4GB of ram, all hell broke loose, not even windows loaded, with a message that the bios isnt fully acpi compliant, so i update upgraded bios, now ubuntu can boot without acpi=off noapic nolapic kernel parameters, so battery info works, and the mouse also works ( that one must ha
[23:16] <XLV> ve to do with better usb support or something )
[23:16] <FredFlinstone> lol
[23:17] <KM0201> rww: they both have upgrade eol links
[23:17] <FredFlinstone> because i am new and in a hurry
[23:17] <zroysch> how long is it supposed to take ubuntu one to synchronize my files? its been sitting here saying "synchronization in progress" for at least three hours. it remains at 0.0%
[23:17] <KM0201> rww: for future reference of course.. i'm not sure why you're always trying to correct me
[23:17] <FredFlinstone> trial and error due to ignorance is what you are looking for ( i think)
[23:17] <ikonia> FredFlinstone: so changing random things is not the way to fix anything
[23:17] <ikonia> FredFlinstone: what exactly are you trying to do
[23:18] <troy> rww dosent work on my keyboard is there a keymap?
[23:18] <ezrafree> i am set to init 4, is there anyway to boot into the command line somehow?
[23:18] <rww> KM0201: I don't know who you are, and I can only see me speaking to you once today :\
[23:18] <janisozaur> using 10.04, is it possible to disable ibus for a specific application?
[23:18] <FredFlinstone> mount my win shares on boot, took half an hour on 10.04
[23:18] <ikonia> ezrafree: why are you set at init 4, ubuntu only uses init2
[23:18] <trojan_spike> TY ikonia i'll search the forum
[23:18] <KM0201> rww: whatever.. like i said, the factoid i posted was perfectly relevant, and contained the info he wanted
[23:18] <rww> KM0201: Yeah, halfway down the page. We have !eol for that specific case. But whatever, do what you want *shrug*
[23:18] <ezrafree> ikonia: well whatever the number, i am set to boot straight to the gui, is there any way to get to the command line?
[23:19] <FredFlinstone> i tried the same page i used back then,  apparently a very bad plan
[23:19] <KM0201> rww: halfway down the page?.. it was 2 sentences
[23:19] <ikonia> ezrafree: disable gdm
[23:19] <FredFlinstone> who knew?
[23:19] <ikonia> FredFlinstone: what command are you using to mount one of the windows shares that is failing
[23:19] <netbeast> hello
[23:20] <rww> KM0201: Feel free to PM me if you want to continue the conversation, best not to clog up #ubuntu with extended discussion of it.
[23:20] <FredFlinstone> see i am under the gun time wise and i didnt allow for things that worked before to be broke now
[23:20] <ezrafree> how can i disable gdm during boot?
[23:20] <KM0201> rww: i didn't want to start it in the first place, you did.
[23:20] <ikonia> FredFlinstone: if you are against the clock, stop rambling and answer the questions
[23:20] <netbeast> i need some help installing a creative pccam300
[23:20] <ezrafree> my mouse and keyboard are not working and my box is booting me straight to the gui login
[23:21] <FredFlinstone> i tried exactly what is in the two pages above
[23:21] <ikonia> FredFlinstone: no, not what I asked
[23:21] <FredFlinstone> that tells you exactly what i did
[23:21] <ikonia> FredFlinstone: give me the command you are using to mount a windows share that is failing
[23:21] <ikonia> FredFlinstone: ok, you're on your own, best of luck, I'm not begging for info
[23:21] <FredFlinstone> i am tryin g to find it
[23:21] <netbeast> can anyone help me on installing a camera
[23:22] <ezrafree> FredFlinstone: if you want help no one is going to go read websites and web pages for you, you have to give them the information they ask so they can help you
[23:22] <ikonia> FredFlinstone: not interested
[23:22] <FredFlinstone> mount.cifs //asus1/MEDIA /media/MEDIA -o credentials=/.smbcredentials
[23:22] <FredFlinstone> and
[23:23] <FredFlinstone> in fstab = //asus1/MEDIA /media/MEDIA cifs credentials=/home/fred/.smbcredentials,iocharset=utf8,file_mode=0777,dir_mode=0777 0 0
[23:23] <FredFlinstone> and places / network also times out
[23:23] <ubuntu> QUESTION: How can i specify my openVPN clients to use the same DNSproxy from my nat router that the server uses and also default route?
[23:24] <FredFlinstone> i cannto type fast or find stuff fast
[23:24] <FredFlinstone> geez after all i am a newbie to ubuntu, and isnt that who you are here to help?
[23:24] <boywonder> hi i need somthing a little off topic, im running ssh only the router company says there router dont support it,any help much abliged?
[23:24] <ikonia> ubuntu: I'm not sure you can, as once you connect to the VPN you're isolated from your network
[23:25] <ikonia> boywonder: sorry, try the router support, it is offtopic here
[23:25] <boywonder> k thanks
[23:25] <ubuntu> ikonia, well how do i brows the web while connected to my openVPN server
[23:25] <ikonia> ubuntu: you won't be able to, as you'll be on the VPN network
[23:26] <ubuntu> ikonia, well the VPN is a bridge so it should be able to browse the web since the server is connected to the internet
[23:26] <FredFlinstone> so thats it?
[23:26] <ikonia> ubuntu: if it's set to route you out to the internet, you can browse it yes
[23:26] <FredFlinstone> i can leave i am undesirable?
[23:27] <ezrafree> FredFlinstone take that drama somewhere else man
[23:27] <ubuntu> ikonia, so in server.conf i should have push "rout <IP_ADDRESS> <IP_ADDRESS>"?
[23:27] <ezrafree> if you want help, state your problem with as much detail as possible and maybe someone will help you. save the comments and complaints to yourself, this isn't a channel for discussion it's a channel for help.
[23:28] <ikonia> ubuntu: it really depends on how your network is setup
[23:28] <FredFlinstone> ah cummon i answered the same stuff over and over for a day
[23:28] <ubuntu> ikonia, its a standard dhcp nat router
[23:28] <FredFlinstone> this version i sbroke and you guys really are lost
[23:28] <ikonia> ubuntu: as I said, it depends how the network is setup
[23:28] <ezrafree> FredFlinstone: i've spent many more then 3 days on the same problem in countless irc channels over the years
[23:28] <KM0201> FredFlinstone: maybe you'd be better off posting this on the forums....
[23:28] <ikonia> FredFlinstone: we are not lost, we are chosing not to help you any more
[23:28] <ubuntu> ikonia, well its setup with a nat router as dhcp
[23:29] <KM0201> FredFlinstone: i don't think i'm lost, Linux runs fine for me on 4 different machines
[23:29] <guampa> FredFlinstone: many tried to help you, you refuse to drop that attitude at all cost. Many have had the same probs as you and manged to solve them w/o bothering others
[23:29] <jay1> .
[23:29] <aertyu> hi
[23:29] <ikonia> ubuntu: ok, so it will need to serve an IP/route that will route you out onto the network
[23:29] <ubuntu> the router has dns proxy and its ip is <IP_ADDRESS>
[23:29] <aertyu> what is the best mail server ?
[23:29] <FredFlinstone> lets be clear then so then i shall find another distro since you are forcing me ?
[23:29] <ikonia> aertyu: best is a tough question, the answer is what works for YOU
[23:29] <guampa> jfc
[23:29] <ikonia> FredFlinstone: if you want to
[23:29] <KM0201> FredFlinstone: well, then get another one.. i'd try Debian.. they'll love you in #debian
[23:29] <ubuntu> ikonia, how do i do that? push "route <IP_ADDRESS> <IP_ADDRESS>"?
[23:30] <aertyu> i don't know ? ikonia
[23:30] <ikonia> ubuntu: I don't know why you keep saying "push route"
[23:30] <FredFlinstone> i heard good things about ubuntu
[23:30] <ezrafree> how can i get to the "on screen keyboard" using my mouse?
[23:30] <ikonia> ubuntu: it depends how your network is setup
[23:30] <FredFlinstone> and freenode
[23:30] <aertyu> what are the point i have to check ? ikonia
[23:30] <FredFlinstone> but i shall not recommend you people ever
[23:30] <ezrafree> FredFlinstone: ubuntu is fantastic, but like anything else, you get out of it what you put into it
[23:30] <FrozenKnight> A little non cooperative are we FredFlinstone ? :D What can't you find fast? :)
[23:30] <ubuntu> ikonia, my network is setup with a dhcp nat router
[23:30] <ikonia> aertyu: look at sendmail/postfix/exim they are the core ones, they all have different pros/cons
[23:30] <FredFlinstone> i wish you had been more patient
[23:30] <ezrafree> FredFlinstone: all you are putting in to it right now is complaining and moaning
[23:30] <ikonia> ubuntu: that's not a network setup, that's just a device
[23:30] <ikonia> FredFlinstone: enough now
[23:30] <FredFlinstone> i tried to be with you
[23:30] <netbeast> anyone here good at installing webcams mine isnt working i have ubuntu 10.10 and a creative pc cam 300
[23:31] <ikonia> FredFlinstone: either wait for someone to help you, or be quiet
[23:31] <FredFlinstone> a day is not fast
[23:31] <ubuntu> dhcp is the setup ikonia
[23:31] <aertyu> pros/cons means ? ikonia
[23:31] <ikonia> ubuntu: that's not a setup, that's just a service
[23:31] <XLV> FredFlinstone, you can always ask for a refund, if you arent happy with services provided
[23:31] <KM0201> FredFlinstone: well, complain to the person that signs our paychecks for providing support here
[23:31] <ubuntu> what do you need to know?
[23:31] <ikonia> aertyu: eg: sendmail is VERY fast for high loads, but hard to setup/manage
[23:31] <ActionParsnip> XLV: nice
[23:32] <FredFlinstone> and i didnt complain OR  get an attitude til i was given one (you can check logs)
[23:32] <ubuntu> its setup on the ledge of the dry erase board?
[23:32] <ezrafree> how can i get to the onscreen keyboard using just my mouse? any ideas?
[23:32] <netbeast> i need some help with my webcam
[23:32] <jay1> (taking a backseat to see what kind of help this room can offer) lol ;)
[23:33] <zroysch> how long is it supposed to take ubuntu one to synchronize my files? its been sitting here saying "synchronization in progress" for at least three hours. it remains at 0.0%
[23:33] <aertyu> sendmail is it integrate with webmail ?
[23:33] <ActionParsnip> ezrafree: System -> Prefs -> Assistive tech
[23:33] <aertyu> sendmail is it integrate with webmail ? ikonia
[23:33] <ubuntu> zroysch, million years
[23:33] <ezrafree> ActionParsnip: thanks
[23:33] <rww> zroysch: If you haven't already, you might want to try the #ubuntuone channel
[23:33] <KM0201> !webcam | netbeast
[23:33] <aertyu> client
[23:33] <ActionParsnip> ezrafree: if you are smart, you can add onboard to system startup
[23:33] <zroysch> ubuntu thats helpful
[23:33] <ikonia> zroysch: it's safe to say there is a problem there
[23:33] <zroysch> rww: i just went there and asked the same question. thanks
[23:34] <crickj> zroysch: less than three hours
[23:34] <zroysch> ikonia: i would have to agree.
[23:34] <ubuntu> zroysch, it depends on how your network is setup
[23:34] <ezrafree> ActionParsnip: that is not bringing up the actual on-screen keyboard
[23:34] <zroysch> ubuntu my computer is connected to the verizon fios router/modem. i have not configured the firewall for ubuntu one.
[23:34] <FrozenKnight> Hmm, OK, in this precise are I'm a bit of a newbie. I'd like to get a usb hard drive to run "plug and play" I mean, to make it visible in "Computers" location when I plug it in.
[23:34] <FrozenKnight> (area)
[23:35] <Mr18> Is there a fix for Clock Skew?
[23:35] <ubuntu> zroysch, ikonia says thats not a setup
[23:35] <ezrafree> is there really no icon to bring up the onscreen keyboard lol
[23:35] <ezrafree> you must admit, that's kind of funny :)
[23:35] <ActionParsnip> ezrafree: i'd use a keyboard to make a shortcut on the desktop
[23:36] <ezrafree> ActionParsnip: if i had a keyboard i wouldn't be looking for the onscreen one haha
[23:36] <crickj> zroysch: I *think* ubuntu one uses https anyway, so there shouldn't be a firewall issue
[23:36] <ezrafree> i mean think about it for a second, hah
[23:36] <ubuntu> zroysch, take your amount of files sychronizing in size and divide that by the connection speed and convert to minutes or hours
[23:36] <ActionParsnip> ezrafree: not that i know of, you can always ssh in and create a shortcut that way
[23:36] <ubuntu> be sure to change filesize to bits instead of bytes
[23:37] <ezrafree> ssh seems to be broken since i installed lib-notify and it decided to remove a bunch of other packages to do so
[23:37] <FrozenKnight> Right now when I connect a USB drive and go to "Computers" location it doesn't show any drive, is that behaviour normal? And if so... is there a way to set up easy access ? :)
[23:38] <FrozenKnight> ("Computer")
[23:38] <crickj> FrozenKnight: no, it isn't normal
[23:38] <resixian> FrozenKnight: check dmesg | tail
[23:38] <FrozenKnight> Oh... that's a bummer :(
[23:38] <crickj> FrozenKnight: is the disk formatted?
[23:38] <FrozenKnight> OK, doing now
[23:38] <ubuntu> zroysch, how big are the files it is synching?
[23:38] <ezrafree> oh how i hope this is all just a bad joke
[23:39] <vipul> any one know how to  initialise the cluster
[23:39] <FrozenKnight> crickj: it's a NTFS formatted drive that I've been using for some time.
[23:39] <zroysch> ubuntu: 241.6MB
[23:39] <ActionParsnip> ezrafree: its not something I use so I'm not really a great guy to ask
[23:39] <vipul> any one know how to  initialise the cluster
[23:39] <ezrafree> how on earth has it been overlooked to think to make a way to access the on-screen keyboard from a mouse click?
[23:39] <zroysch> ubuntu: no matter how big the files are, there should be more than 0.0% transferred over 3 hours.
[23:39] <crickj> FrozenKnight: go to System -> admin -> disk utility and see if it's listed
[23:39] <ezrafree> ActionParsnip: me neither, it's not the kind of thing anyone would use... unless they needed it :)
[23:40] <vipul> any one know how to  initialise the cluster
[23:40] <resixian> FrozenKnight: could be you need 'sudo modprobe ntfs' ?
[23:40] <FrozenKnight> resixian: I did the dmesg, and it shows "nice" messages, like usb found assuming write through
[23:41] <vipul>  initialise the cluster
[23:41] <FrozenKnight> crickj: when I go to the place it isn't listed
[23:41] <FrozenKnight> resixian: I think it allocated sdc
[23:41] <liminal> im having a problem with dual  monitor support in ubuntu 10.10
[23:41] <vipul>  initialise the cluster any one know i have problem with postgreSQL
[23:41] <rww> !repeat | vipul
[23:41] <liminal> xorg is applying the wrong resolution settings to each monitor
[23:41] <FrozenKnight> resixian: wait, it detected the USB hub but not the disk attached to it
[23:41] <liminal> it gets them the wrong way around
[23:42] <netbeast> damn camera
[23:42] <ActionParsnip> ezrafree: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=553961
[23:42] <FrozenKnight> resixian:  trying modprobe
[23:42] <vipul>  initialise the cluster any one know i have problem with postgreSQL
[23:42] <ezrafree> ActionParsnip: thanks let me read
[23:43] <FrozenKnight> resixian: nothing output
[23:43] <crickj> FrozenKnight: what's the output of lsusb?
[23:43] <ActionParsnip> ezrafree: http://cmwelsh.com/enable-on-screen-keyboard-ubuntu-lucid-lynx
[23:43] <ezrafree> ActionParsnip: yes using your initial advice i was able to get an onscreen keyboard to show up at login... now what abotu once i'm logged in though?
[23:44] <ActionParsnip> ezrafree: if you install onboard   you can click / drag the icon to the startup items thingy
[23:44] <resixian> FrozenKnight: there shuoldn't have been any output. try re-plugging your drive int
[23:44] <KM0201> netbeast: https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/cheese/+question/137960
[23:44] <vipul> Man any one HERE WHO CAN ANSWER MY QUESTION
[23:45] <resixian> FrozenKnight: also, can you plug it directly into your box? might be too little power on the usb hub
[23:45] <ActionParsnip> vipul: have you asked in the postgesql channel (if there is one)
[23:45] <vipul> YES
[23:45] <vipul> I did
[23:45] <FrozenKnight> Hmm, true... trying.
[23:45] <ActionParsnip> vipul: the sensible answer would be: If nobody replys then the answer is clearly NO
[23:45] <Chaos2358> ok i am having trouble with my cd creator on ubuntu 10.10
[23:46] <ActionParsnip> Chaos2358: wassup>
[23:46] <centcom> hi
[23:46] <vipul> johto> "initdb" doesn't work well with the multi-version system debian/ubuntu has< what they says
[23:46] <rww> vipul: as ubottu's already told you, "if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you".
[23:46] <Chaos2358> i am trying to burn an iso of 10.10 but....
[23:46] <centcom> hi
[23:46] <Chaos2358> ActionParsnip,  when i select the iso it asks whether to burn as a file or burn contents
[23:46] <centcom> canada here
[23:46] <Chaos2358> ActionParsnip,  i select burn contents and it closes the application
[23:47] <FrozenKnight> resixian: tried, dmesg says it has attached a usb drive... but I can't find it in System/Admin/Disks and neither in Computers
[23:47] <KM0201> Chaos2358: what app are you using to burn it?.. there should be an option to "burn as image"
[23:47] <ActionParsnip> Chaos2358: what app are you burning with?
[23:47] <resixian> FrozenKnight: lsmod | grep ntfs shows the ntfs module?
[23:47] <Chaos2358> KM0201,  ActionParsnip the standard cd/dvd creator that comes with 10.10
[23:47] <ActionParsnip> Chaos2358: then i suggest you try gnomebaker
[23:48] <KM0201> Chaos2358: thats probably brasero... install gnomebaker (sudo apt-get install gnomebaker)
[23:48] <Chaos2358> ActionParsnip, KM0201 wow ok then thanks guys
[23:48] <FrozenKnight> resixian: and two numbers the latter 0
[23:48] <KM0201> if i wasn't as wordy as ActionParsnip i'd beat him to the punch every so often
[23:48] <KM0201> lol
[23:48] <FrozenKnight> (yes)
[23:49] <Chaos2358> KM0201, lol
[23:49] <ActionParsnip> KM0201: use terminal more and you type faster :)
[23:49] <KM0201> Chaos2358: once you install gnomebaker.. insert cd, start gnomebaker, go to tools/burn cd iso image... then go fromt here.. it's easy
[23:49] <KM0201> ActionParsnip: i type pretty fast.. just prefer GUI's rather than cli.
[23:49] <Chaos2358> KM0201, in the 3 mos ive been using ubuntu ive never had to burn a disc
[23:50] <FrozenKnight> The patience these guys must have :)
[23:50] <ezrafree> omg i can't even get to synaptic without entering my password which i can't do since i don't have a keyboard.
[23:50] <KM0201> Chaos2358: i burn data CD's on occasion w/ Gnomebaker... usually when i'm fixing someones computer and i'm retrieving pics, etc.. off a drive before reinstalling Winders
[23:51] <ActionParsnip> ezrafree: the onboard keyboard should work with gksudo etc
[23:51] <Chaos2358> KM0201, well my bro has a win7 laptop and i generally transfer files to his to burn dvds since my machine only has a dvd-r drive
[23:51] <KM0201> Chaos2358: ah... i see
[23:52] <enyawix> can you edit the sources list to go from debian to ubuntu
[23:52] <guampa> ezrafree: character map?
[23:52] <velko> enyawix, no
[23:52] <ezrafree> ActionParsnip: i can't find any way to _start_ the onscreen keyboard
[23:52] <KM0201> enyawix: you can try, but epic fail wouldn't begin to describe what would happen
[23:52] <ezrafree> guampa: that's an idea, i will give that a shot
[23:52] <rww> ezrafree: right-click the main menu applet, click Edit Menus. Click Universal Access. Click the checkbox by OnBoard. Click Close. Click Applications. Click Universal Access. Click OnBoard.
[23:53] <ActionParsnip> ezrafree: install onboard and it will have an entry in the applications menu
[23:53] <rww> onboard was installed by default for me :\
[23:53] <ActionParsnip> rww: yes it is, ezrafree listen to the smart man :)
[23:53] <FrozenKnight> resixian I just tried sudo mounting the drive to a temporary folder, and I can do it.
[23:54] <guampa> yup i have installed too, just hidden in the menu
[23:54] <ezrafree> ActionParsnip: where would this entry be?
[23:54] <rww> ezrafree: I just told you.
[23:54] <ezrafree> rrw: sorry didn't see that
[23:54] <FrozenKnight> win 16
[23:54] <ActionParsnip> ezrafree: under the accessibility options you can enable onboard and it will appear
[23:54] <netbeast> nope that didnt work
[23:55] <ActionParsnip> ezrafree: you can then even open the startup items and drag it there so it autostarts
[23:55] <resixian> FrozenKnight: must be some user permission or the automagic daemon is failing you
[23:55] <ActionParsnip> ezrafree: http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_cNuMZYzxcps/S2sr132286I/AAAAAAAAAv4/Sv-MTllbUgA/s320/Onboard-Menu.png
[23:55] <ezrafree> AHHH that's got it thanks guys :)
[23:55] <ezrafree> hopefully i can update this beast and get things working again now lol
[23:55] <rww> :)
[23:56] <FrozenKnight> resixian: I had a hunch the daemon might be failing, don't really know why, but I'll use it like this for now :) Thanks resixian ! :)
[23:56] <Two9A> Right, I've tried asking this before today, but: Does anyone know why my Hauppage Nova-T card won't allow ioctl to be opened to its frontend? http://pastebin.com/6BNHJKXN
[23:56] <ActionParsnip> ezrafree: add the item to your startup items and it'll run at login :)
[23:56] <Two9A> I've tried compiling up a new 2.6.36 kernel, the driver loads normally, but nothing doing when I dvbsnoop
[23:57] <resixian> FrozenKnight: also check here, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Mount/USB#User Privileges
[23:57] <resixian> FrozenKnight: it really should 'just work'
[23:57] <netbeast> action that installing cheese thing didnt work it doesnt detect webcam
[23:58] <ezrafree> darn, there's no "arrows" on the on screen keyboard so i can't see what the command was that got me in to this mess, but i'm pretty sure it was "sudo apt-get install lib-notify" because i was trying to fix this error i was getting in thunderbird
[23:58] <FrozenKnight> Thanks resixian :)
[23:58] <ActionParsnip> netbeast: then websearch for the 8 character hex ID of the device
[23:58] <ubas> hi to all
[23:58] <Chaos2358> ActionParsnip,  KM0201 ok gnomebaker is "frozen?" i installed with sudo, opened, tools, burn cd image, selected the iso file, hit burn, it spun up my disc and is just sitting there at"starting new track at sector:0" and its not spinning the disc..
[23:58] <aertyu> i simply made a copy from one machine to an other machine if i do ls -l on the first i got total 8512   and the second if i do ls -l i got  total 8360  is that normal ?
[23:58] <netbeast> how do i find the hex id
[23:59] <shcherbak> ezrafree: history?
[23:59] <KM0201> Chaos2358: didn't you say you were trying to burn a DVDr?... maybe you need to choose burn DVD iso?
[23:59] <itaylor57> ezrafree: i think sudo aptitidue update then sudo aptitude install willdo the trick
[23:59] <ubas> some one for a little help??? My ubuntu going crazy! i cannot open andy folder, cause file manager starts,and when open ubuntu a lot of file manager opened!


[00:44] <icekk> hey, my CPUs are maxed out on ubuntu desktop and im doin nothing, any good tools to analyze my stuff/
[00:44] <icekk> to see whats  using what cpu
[00:44] <icekk> system monitor dont seem to do much
[00:55] <Amaranth> icekk: You should join #ubuntu for support but if the System Monitor isn't showing anything using the CPU you should go View->All Processes or perhaps there really is nothing using the CPU
[00:58] <icekk> WHat does it mean when backend is using 50% cpu? amaranth
[01:08] <desrt> anyone on the ground yet?
[12:49] <fagan> Is the keynote being video streamed this time around?
[12:50] <fagan> I suppose no one is looking at IRC at this time
[15:05] <geser> fagan: you might have better chances to get an answer in #ubuntu-uds
[15:05] <fagan> geser: im in there now
[15:05] <fagan> and yeah the stream is up
[17:18] <G__81> the link in the topic which should show the bugs open does not show it
[17:18] <G__81> i am interested in fixing bugs but wanted to see is there something that i could start working on so that i could get a feel of it as this would be my first step in contributing to Ubuntu
[17:53] <devildante> mmm, can we view the keynote as a video?
[17:56] <kklimonda_> it should be available at some point
[20:11] <pedro_> pitti, are you tracking bug 544994 ?
[20:11] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 544994 in rhythmbox (Ubuntu Lucid) (and 2 other projects) "the rhythmbox mtp code hijacks cameras (affects: 6) (dups: 1) (heat: 51)" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/544994
[20:12] <pedro_> pitti, it was re opened and set to in progress by someone that's not you but it's still assigned to you, so just wondering about it
[20:12] <pedro_> if it's really in progress or not ;-)
[20:50] <davidbarth> Daviey: ping? can you help with unity session scheduling?
[21:33] <czajkowski> kenvandine: so handy to be able to show you when it's being stupid :)


 I might get mine soon then
[08:27] <philipballew> Money talks and money travels
[08:27] <bkerensa> philipballew: I imagine you will get it now... Most businesses do transfers/payments in batches
[08:27] <bkerensa> :P
[08:28] <bkerensa> assuming your bank posts their daily wires/ach's at midnight
[08:28] <philipballew> ill have to call my bank soon
[08:28] <philipballew> or go online. I have yet to ever do online banking.
[08:30]  * MarkDude likes using telegraph for my banking needs
[08:32] <bkerensa> MarkDude: Morse Code is nice too
[08:32] <bkerensa> just tap tap tap them the drop location
[08:33] <bkerensa> and they tap tap tap what time they will come get it :D
[08:33]  * MarkDude learned code to get his ham licenses
[08:52] <bkerensa> ham radio seems like an expensive hobby
[09:22] <scientes> mmmm ham
[15:08] <bkerensa> Mmm just finished a breakfast you surely can't come close to in California :D
[17:51] <jyo> So I suppose LinkedIn is a good component of a low-salt diet? :P
[19:33] <philipballew> I changed my password jyo
[19:35] <philipballew> does that mean I lowered my salt intake?
[19:35] <philipballew> but seriously, I feel bad for people who will not change it.