[18:38] <knittl> how can i help troubleshoot display errors with sleep/resume?
[19:38] <knittl> hmmmm. (EE) open /dev/fb0: No such file or directory
[19:38] <knittl> this is interesting?
[19:40] <knittl> everybody asleep? :>
[19:41] <knittl> also: [drm] failed to open device
[19:41] <knittl> (shortly before)
[20:20] <kklimonda> !weekend | knittl
[20:20] <ubot4> knittl: It's a weekend. Often on weekends the paid developers and a lot of the community may not be around to answer your question. Please be patient, wait longer than you normally would or try again during the working week.
[20:23] <knittl> kklimonda: oh ok. i didn't see it that way


[12:07] <shwag> ah, okay,..that explains the wording. I thought he was just being short with me.
[12:07] <shwag> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/totem/+bug/114284
[12:07] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 114284 in totem ""Movie Player" default for audio files" [Wishlist,Rejected]
[12:09] <shwag> reopen please
[12:10] <pochu> shwag: you can do it yourself :)
[12:10] <pochu> just click on the package name "totem (Ubuntu)"
[12:10] <ubotu> New bug: #114917 in reportbug (universe) "wrong confirmation message when bts is debian" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/114917
[12:11] <pochu> and mark it as unconfirmed or confirmed or whatever you want
[12:11] <shwag> pochu: ah, cool.
[12:15] <Markus1> Gaim saves it default away messages in "status.xml". The german translation is really cruel, sounding like a five year old. I just can't find a translation for it (it's not in "de.po"), nor am I able to find it in the source package. Where do I find the source for the away message?
[12:16] <ubotu> New bug: #114918 in autopano-sift (universe) "autopano-complete cannot find Mono executables" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/114918
[12:21] <ubotu> New bug: #114919 in Ubuntu "automount of USB disk does not work anymore after suspend to disk" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/114919
[12:30] <ubotu> New bug: #114920 in burn (universe) "burn.conf sets device to "0, 0, 0" - should be "/dev/cdrw"" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/114920
[12:40] <ubotu> New bug: #114923 in gnome-panel (main) "window list highlights kde apps when switching workspaces" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/114923
[12:45] <ubotu> New bug: #114924 in firefox (main) "When desktop effects in 7.04 are enabled the show all the bookmarks folder key doesn't work when trying to add a bookmark." [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/114924
[01:01] <ubotu> New bug: #114925 in Ubuntu "suspend problem balloon displayed erroneously" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/114925
[01:01] <ubotu> New bug: #114926 in kdebase (main) "[apport]  kfontinst crashed with SIGSEGV in FT_Get_PS_Font_Info()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/114926
[01:20] <ubotu> New bug: #114927 in Ubuntu "cannot view entire install window in *x480 res" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/114927
[01:21] <bdmurray> bug 114842
[01:21] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 114842 in Ubuntu "" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/114842
[01:27] <pochu> bdmurray: I think I can't translate that ;)
[01:28] <bdmurray> pochu: heh
[01:30] <bdmurray> pochu: have you seen gnome-translate?
[01:32] <pochu> bdmurray: no, is it good? :)
[01:33] <bdmurray> I think the chinese might be lacking
[01:33] <bdmurray> "Kneading board question" is the subject
[01:34] <pochu> that doesn't make sense for a gnome-panel bug, does it?
[01:34] <bdmurray> not to me. ;)
[01:35] <ubotu> New bug: #114928 in network-manager-pptp (universe) "Problem with special characters?" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/114928
[01:43] <pochu> bdmurray: btw, check 114842 again ;)
[01:43] <pochu> bug 114842
[01:43] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 114842 in Ubuntu "Problems about the panel" [Undecided,Needs info]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/114842
[01:43] <pochu> bdmurray: minghua translated it :)
[01:44] <bdmurray> I see.  Thanks.
[01:56] <ubotu> New bug: #114930 in clearsilver (universe) "Python C API version mismatch" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/114930
[02:06] <ubotu> New bug: #114931 in Ubuntu "Unable to copy Audio CD using Nautilus" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/114931
[02:15] <ubotu> New bug: #114933 in emacs21 (main) "pdb doesn't work in Emacs after upgrading to Feisty" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/114933
[02:20] <ubotu> New bug: #114934 in evolution-exchange (main) "Exchange account shows I have new mail but I can't read it" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/114934
[02:25] <ubotu> New bug: #114935 in thunderbird (main) "Crash when shutting down computer" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/114935
[02:56] <ubotu> New bug: #114936 in gdm (main) "tab through GDM login hangs computer" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/114936
[03:05] <ubotu> New bug: #114937 in Ubuntu "Gxine missing maximise button in Feisty" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/114937
[03:05] <ubotu> New bug: #114938 in kdepim (main) "kpilotdaemon in hung state when palm not connection" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/114938
[03:35] <ubotu> New bug: #114939 in Ubuntu "[apport]  notification-daemon crashed with SIGSEGV" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/114939
[03:51] <ubotu> New bug: #114940 in firefox (main) "Firefox crashed after waking Dell 4100 from hibernate, wireless access in use" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/114940
[03:56] <ubotu> New bug: #114941 in Ubuntu "xorg.conf gets (wrongly) overwritten after hardware crash " [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/114941
[04:01] <ubotu> New bug: #114942 in deskbar-applet (main) "Crash Report" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/114942
[04:05] <ubotu> New bug: #114943 in firefox (main) "firefox crash while trying to access https://addons.mozilla.org/plugins" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/114943
[04:05] <ubotu> New bug: #114944 in language-support-ur (main) "Pango support required to view urdu webpages" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/114944
[04:20] <ubotu> New bug: #114945 in gnome-screensaver (main) "Cannot disable user switching" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/114945
[04:20] <ubotu> New bug: #114946 in firestarter (universe) "subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 250" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/114946
[04:35] <ubotu> New bug: #114947 in kdebase (main) "Konqueror menus and toolbars broken/missing after upgrade to Feisty" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/114947
[04:36] <ubotu> New bug: #114948 in pgadmin3 (universe) "[apport]  pgadmin3 crashed with SIGSEGV in wxGrid::SetTable()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/114948
[04:41] <ubotu> New bug: #114949 in egroupware (universe) "Undocumented option in installation instructions" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/114949
[04:46] <ubotu> New bug: #114950 in Ubuntu "brightness applet doesn't show changing brightness levels" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/114950
[04:56] <ubotu> New bug: #114951 in update-manager (main) "[apport]  update-manager crashed with IOError in gzopen()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/114951
[04:56] <ubotu> New bug: #114952 in kubuntu-meta (main) "scim-qtimm doesn't depend on scim" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/114952
[05:00] <ubotu> New bug: #114953 in acpi-support (main) "acpi_fakekey sends events to wrong evdev device" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/114953
[05:31] <ubotu> New bug: #114954 in apport (main) "apport no longer pops up a dialog window on crash" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/114954
[05:36] <ubotu> New bug: #114955 in firefox (main) "firefox just closed on processing a web page" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/114955
[05:36] <ubotu> New bug: #114956 in Ubuntu "Ubuntu 7.04 installation halts with error code" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/114956
[06:15] <ubotu> New bug: #114958 in kdebase (main) "multi konqueror open kicker crash" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/114958
[06:30] <ubotu> New bug: #114959 in update-manager (main) "[apport]  package update-manager failed to install/upgrade: ErrorMessage: SystemError in cache.commit(): installArchives() failed" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/114959
[06:35] <ubotu> New bug: #114960 in evolution (main) "Evolution Crashed on Gnome Lock-up" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/114960
[06:35] <ubotu> New bug: #114961 in beryl-core (universe) "[apport]  beryl crashed with SIGSEGV in XPending()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/114961
[06:45] <ubotu> New bug: #114964 in openoffice.org (main) "OpenOffice ( Writer ) locks up Gnome with No Printer Defined" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/114964
[06:45] <ubotu> New bug: #114965 in Ubuntu "Logoff the first logged user causes Authentication failed on second logged user" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/114965
[06:45] <ubotu> New bug: #114966 in rhythmbox (main) "Can put music on ipod using Rhythm box music player." [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/114966
[06:45] <ubotu> New bug: #114967 in bristol (universe) "[apport]  bristolengine crashed with SIGSEGV in wave2()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/114967
[08:01] <ubotu> New bug: #114970 in usplash (main) "[apport]  usplash crashed with SIGSEGV in __svgalib_get_perm()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/114970
[08:01] <ubotu> New bug: #114971 in beryl-settings (universe) "[apport]  beryl-settings crashed with TypeError in MakeBackendWidgets()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/114971
[08:05] <ubotu> New bug: #114972 in Ubuntu "apt-get update fails" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/114972
[08:10] <ubotu> New bug: #114973 in Ubuntu "Erratic Vi on feisty" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/114973
[08:15] <ubotu> New bug: #114974 in hwdb-client (main) "[apport]  hwdb-kde crashed with IndexError in sendData()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/114974
[08:15] <ubotu> New bug: #114975 in Ubuntu "JDK install error on feisty" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/114975
[08:20] <ubotu> New bug: #114976 in proftpd-dfsg (universe) "Proftpd terminates after SIGHUP" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/114976
[08:25] <ubotu> New bug: #114977 in kdebase (main) "Konqueror menus and toolbars gone!" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/114977
[08:31] <ubotu> New bug: #114979 in Ubuntu "user switching" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/114979
[08:31] <ubotu> New bug: #114980 in kdelibs (main) "[apport]  kdeinit crashed with SIGSEGV" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/114980
[08:36] <ubotu> New bug: #114978 in proftpd-dfsg (universe) "Proftpd terminates after SIGHUP" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/114978
[08:36] <ubotu> New bug: #114981 in Ubuntu "100 % CPU load in battery mode" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/114981
[08:45] <ubotu> New bug: #114982 in Ubuntu "Please sync these from Debian" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/114982
[08:46] <dholbach> good morning
[09:00] <ubotu> New bug: #114983 in arts (main) "[apport]  artsd crashed with SIGSEGV" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/114983
[09:05] <`Bunny> hi there i have a really strange bug in ubuntu and i am entirely unsure what the problem even could be...
[09:05] <ubotu> New bug: #114984 in dvdauthor (universe) "[apport]  dvdauthor crashed with SIGSEGV" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/114984
[09:52] <ubotu> New bug: #114985 in thunderbird (main) "Can't create new subfolder" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/114985
[09:52] <ubotu> New bug: #114986 in openoffice.org (main) "crashreport occurred on bootup/login" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/114986
[09:52] <ubotu> New bug: #114987 in ktorrent (main) "[apport]  ktorrent crashed with signal 7 in net::SocketMonitor::update()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/114987
[10:21] <ubotu> New bug: #114988 in ubiquity (main) "installer crashed" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/114988
[10:26] <ubotu> New bug: #114989 in vmware-player (multiverse) "vmplayer: /usr/lib/vmware-player/lib/libpng12.so.0/libpng12.so.0: no version information available" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/114989
[10:55] <ubotu> New bug: #114990 in linux-source-2.6.22 (main) "some firmware is not yet available" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/114990
[11:10] <ubotu> New bug: #114991 in amarok (main) "[apport]  amarokapp crashed with SIGSEGV in operator>>()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/114991
[11:15] <ubotu> New bug: #114992 in hubackup (universe) "[apport]  hubackup crashed with AttributeError in nextPhase()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/114992
[11:15] <ubotu> New bug: #114993 in restricted-manager (main) "[apport]  restricted-manager crashed with IOError in generate_restricted_list()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/114993
[11:20] <ubotu> New bug: #114994 in brasero (universe) "[apport]  brasero crashed with SIGSEGV in g_str_hash()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/114994
[11:25] <ubotu> New bug: #114995 in mysql-admin (universe) "[apport]  mysql-admin crashed with SIGSEGV in g_object_newv()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/114995
[11:31] <ubotu> New bug: #114996 in kdebase (main) "Konqueror does not open external URL in the right window" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/114996
[11:36] <ubotu> New bug: #114997 in openoffice.org (main) "Apearance of the gradient" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/114997
[11:41] <ubotu> New bug: #114999 in gs-esp (main) "[apport]  gs-esp crashed with SIGSEGV" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/114999
[12:10] <ubotu> New bug: #115000 in beryl-core (universe) "beryl crashed when working with /etc/passwd file" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/115000
[12:16] <ubotu> New bug: #115001 in apt-listchanges (main) "[apport]  apt-listchanges crashed with AttributeError in __init__()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/115001
[12:21] <ubotu> New bug: #115002 in firefox (main) "Firefox opens new window instead of new tab" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/115002
[12:31] <ubotu> New bug: #115003 in kdebase (main) "[apport]  BeagleDaemon.exe crashed with SIGSEGV in _Unwind_Backtrace()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/115003
[12:31] <ubotu> New bug: #115004 in Ubuntu "Hisax module crashes gnome randomly" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/115004
[12:35] <ubotu> New bug: #115005 in audacity (universe) "Audacity about dialog text doesn't show." [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/115005
[12:35] <ubotu> New bug: #115006 in Ubuntu "many programs installed via synaptic it not showen anywhere. try ATMEL" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/115006
[12:40] <ubotu> New bug: #115007 in python2.5 (main) "[apport]  python2.5 crashed with SIGSEGV in pthread_mutex_lock()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/115007
[01:15] <ubotu> New bug: #115008 in hardinfo (universe) "Segmentation fault opening Kernel modules page" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/115008
[01:26] <ubotu> New bug: #115009 in cdebootstrap (universe) "Please merge cdebootstrap 0.4.3 from Debian" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/115009
[01:26] <ubotu> New bug: #115010 in cupsys (main) "CUPS ipp interface fails in feisty" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/115010
[01:40] <ubotu> New bug: #115011 in Ubuntu "Ubuntu 7.04 hangs on reboot on Dell 745" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/115011
[01:45] <ubotu> New bug: #115012 in Ubuntu "[apport]  gnome-screenshot crashed with SIGSEGV in g_slist_foreach()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/115012
[01:50] <ubotu> New bug: #115013 in kdebase (main) "[apport]  kdm crashed with SIGSEGV" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/115013
[02:01] <ubotu> New bug: #115014 in Ubuntu "Kde System Settings Crashes (Backtrace attached)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/115014
[02:06] <ubotu> New bug: #115015 in Ubuntu "Suspend problems Tohiba Tecra A2 (centrino)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/115015
[02:06] <ubotu> New bug: #115016 in procps (main) "man page of ps is incomplete" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/115016
[02:11] <ubotu> New bug: #115017 in linux-ubuntu-modules-2.6.22 (main) "missing prism2 drivers" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/115017
[02:11] <ubotu> New bug: #115018 in keyjnote (universe) "the '+' key in spotlight mode does not work" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/115018
[02:16] <ubotu> New bug: #115019 in Ubuntu "Please remove from archive" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/115019
[02:18] <dholbach> hey thekorn
[02:18] <dholbach> thekorn: how's it going?
[02:18] <thekorn> dholbach: hi, you are fast :)
[02:18] <dholbach> :-)
[02:23] <thekorn> dholbach: i think I found a smart solution for the output module without using templates, try to hack on that today...
[02:23] <dholbach> ahhhh nice
[02:26] <ubotu> New bug: #115021 in compiz (main) "Maximized Windows Titlebar not clickable" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/115021
[02:36] <ubotu> New bug: #115022 in amarok (main) "[apport]  amarokapp crashed with SIGSEGV in operator>>()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/115022
[02:50] <ubotu> New bug: #115023 in kdelibs (main) "[apport]  kdeinit crashed with SIGSEGV" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/115023
[02:55] <ubotu> New bug: #115024 in gthumb (main) "gThumb 2.10.3 available" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/115024
[03:00] <ubotu> New bug: #115025 in firefox (main) "[apport]  firefox-bin crashed with SIGSEGV in __kernel_vsyscall()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/115025
[03:11] <ubotu> New bug: #115027 in alsa-driver (main) "No sound in Asrock MB K8NF6G-VSTA after 7.04 herd 4" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/115027
[03:16] <ubotu> New bug: #115028 in stlport5.1 (universe) "sync request" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/115028
[03:20] <ubotu> New bug: #115029 in linux-source-2.6.22 (main) "battery not detected by g-p-m" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/115029
[03:35] <ubotu> New bug: #115030 in kdelibs (main) "[apport]  kdeinit crashed with SIGSEGV" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/115030
[03:39] <tuxmaniac> bug #114350 has the needed info provided by the Original reporter. Can the bug status be changed to Unconfirmed? Also I see that the importance has been changed to High which means the bug is confirmed?
[03:39] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 114350 in firefox "[FEISTY]  firefox crashed [@vtable for nsFileOutputStream]  [@XPCWrappedNative::InitTearOff] " [High,Needs info]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/114350
[03:40] <ubotu> New bug: #115031 in network-manager (main) "can't remove nm-applet" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/115031
[03:45] <ubotu> New bug: #115032 in displayconfig-gtk (universe) "[apport]  displayconfig-gtk crashed with SIGSEGV in gtk_notebook_get_type()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/115032
[03:50] <ScottK> tuxmaniac: Since it has a good trace, I'd mark it confirmed.
[03:50] <tuxmaniac> ScottK, ok
[03:51] <ubotu> New bug: #115033 in arts (main) "[apport]  artsd crashed with SIGSEGV in Arts::Dispatcher::terminate()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/115033
[03:56] <ubotu> New bug: #115035 in nautilus (main) "Nautilus miss-identifies MIME type of certain lua scripts" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/115035
[03:56] <ubotu> New bug: #115037 in evolution (main) "evolution filters do not support " [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/115037
[04:01] <ubotu> New bug: #115038 in ubiquity (main) "TRYING TO RESTORE KUBUNTU BOOT" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/115038
[04:01] <ubotu> New bug: #115039 in evolution (main) "Signed mails with S/MIME are marked PGP+S/MIME on post-edition" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/115039
[04:20] <ubotu> New bug: #115041 in kdelibs (main) "[apport]  kdeinit crashed with SIGSEGV" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/115041
[04:25] <ubotu> New bug: #115042 in firefox (main) "[apport]  firefox-bin crashed with SIGSEGV in __kernel_vsyscall()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/115042
[04:25] <ubotu> New bug: #115043 in ubiquity (main) "[apport]  ubiquity crashed with OSError in _execvpe()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/115043
[04:30] <ubotu> New bug: #115044 in evolution-exchange (main) "[apport]  evolution-exchange-storage crashed with SIGSEGV while adding to "to" list" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/115044
[04:35] <ubotu> New bug: #115045 in firefox (main) "[apport]  firefox-bin crashed with SIGSEGV in __kernel_vsyscall()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/115045
[04:35] <ubotu> New bug: #115046 in pidgin (universe) "Bug durante tentativa de conexo com o MSN" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/115046
[04:35] <ubotu> New bug: #115047 in python-imaging (main) "no xv for PIL" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/115047
[04:41] <ubotu> New bug: #115048 in kdeedu (main) "khangman won't start and eats 100% CPU" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/115048
[05:25] <ubotu> New bug: #115051 in Ubuntu "http://packages.ubuntu.net/ considered harmful" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/115051
[05:30] <bddebian> Boo
[05:34] <ScottK> Bah
[05:40] <ubotu> New bug: #115052 in openoffice.org (main) "100% CPU and freeze when scrolling inside document that has embedded EPS graphics" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/115052
[05:51] <ubotu> New bug: #115053 in libsynce (universe) "Synce project is now at version 0.10.0, so the Ubuntu packages should be updated" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/115053
[05:51] <ubotu> New bug: #115054 in libsynce (universe) "Synce project is now at version 0.10.0, so the Ubuntu packages should be updated" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/115054
[05:56] <ubotu> New bug: #115055 in firefox (main) "[apport]  firefox-bin crashed with SIGSEGV in __kernel_vsyscall()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/115055
[05:56] <ubotu> New bug: #115056 in kdebase (main) "kdesktop_lock doesn't work" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/115056
[05:56] <ubotu> New bug: #115057 in qcad (universe) "[apport]  qcad crashed with SIGSEGV" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/115057
[06:05] <ubotu> New bug: #115058 in firefox (main) "Firefox reported that it crashed on startup, but it runs fine. I think i closed it, and logged out to quickly for firefox's liking" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/115058
[06:05] <ubotu> New bug: #115059 in multi-gnome-terminal (universe) "multi-gnome-terminal crashes on paste from tcpd man page" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/115059
[06:17] <ubotu> New bug: #115060 in acpi-support (main) "Hibernate.sh broken with uswsusp and LVM swapfile" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/115060
[06:20] <ubotu> New bug: #115061 in rhythmbox (main) "Artist info on radiostream only displayed when local song started first" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/115061
[06:25] <ubotu> New bug: #115062 in ipython (universe) "ipython bug with file token.py in path" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/115062
[06:30] <ubotu> New bug: #115063 in kdissert (universe) "kdissert icons missing" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/115063
[06:30] <ubotu> New bug: #115065 in apt-show-versions (universe) "please add gutsy info" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/115065
[06:36] <ubotu> New bug: #115064 in linux-restricted-modules-2.6.22 (restricted) "nVidia 7600GS and kernel" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/115064
[06:36] <jjesse> ever feel over welhemed by the new bugs that keep showing up here :(
[06:37] <Burgundavia> yep
[06:46] <ubotu> New bug: #115066 in kdelibs (main) "[apport]  kdeinit crashed with SIGSEGV" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/115066
[07:00] <ubotu> New bug: #115067 in trac (universe) "trac package broken - trac-admin not working" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/115067
[07:10] <ubotu> New bug: #115068 in sqlite3 (main) "sync request" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/115068
[07:31] <micahcowan> The HowToTriage page mentions that you can Confirm a bug, even if you can't reproduce it, provided that (e.g.) it is completely and adequately described. I had not noticed this before; is this relatively new (within the past year)?
[07:32] <bdmurray> micahcowan: I don't believe so.  Confirmed means that there is enough information for a developer to start working on it.  For example the right log files.
[07:34] <micahcowan> bdmurray, that's very helpful then: I'd been under the mistaken impression that I or someone else would typically have to reproduce the bug to confirm it, resulting in my leaving some bugs that had quite-adequate information still "untriaged". This basically means, then, that provided the bug is legit and hasn't been fixed, I should /always/ be able to set the bug to either Needs Info or Confirmed, yes?
[07:34] <micahcowan> I should be able to get through triaging certain types of bugs much faster, then. :)
[07:36] <bdmurray> micahcowan: for the most part yes
[07:37] <micahcowan> The exceptions being, I suppose, when there is not enough information, but the right questions to be asked are not apparent. Or, of course, those cases where it is not clear that the named package is actually the culprit.
[07:41] <ubotu> New bug: #115069 in cdrkit (main) "wodim problem eith big files?" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/115069
[07:41] <ubotu> New bug: #115070 in pidgin (universe) "Crash after using mouse gestures plugin" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/115070
[07:41] <ubotu> New bug: #115071 in firefox (main) "firefox rss feed chooser doesn't pick up installed apps" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/115071
[07:45] <ubotu> New bug: #115072 in baobab (universe) "gentoo linux logo in baobab 2.18.0" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/115072
[07:50] <ubotu> New bug: #115073 in skyeye (universe) "Trouble loading a library fresh after installation: libbfd-<IP_ADDRESS>.6.so: cannot open shared object file" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/115073
[07:56] <ubotu> New bug: #115074 in procps (main) "top shows only one cpu" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/115074
[08:10] <Lhademmor> is it hug day today?
[08:10] <Hobbsee> it can be.  it's alwasy a hug day :P
[08:10] <Lhademmor> Cool
[08:10] <umarmung> Should I reject bug 115072 ?
[08:10] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 115072 in baobab "gentoo linux logo in baobab 2.18.0" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/115072
[08:11] <Hobbsee> umarmung: looks fine to me
[08:11] <Lhademmor> I would love to help/join the BugSquad... But am unsure how I may be of service?
[08:11] <ubotu> New bug: #115075 in knetworkmanager (main) "knetworkmanager source doesn't compile" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/115075
[08:11] <ubotu> New bug: #115076 in xsane (main) "XSane" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/115076
[08:11] <pochu> Lhademmor: /topic :)
[08:11] <pochu> Lhademmor: we would love to have you in it! :)
[08:12] <umarmung> Hobbsee: Sorry. The bug looks fine or rejecting is fine? :)
[08:12] <ScottK> umarmung: Is it a bug in the icon theme then (maybe reassign, not reject)?
[08:12] <pochu> umarmung: I'd say it's safe to reject it
[08:12] <Hobbsee> umarmung: rejecting it, probably
[08:13] <Lhademmor> pochu: I would love to join in, but I don't know much programming atm (although I'm planning on learning Python or C in the near future)..
[08:13] <ScottK> Lhademmor: Triaging bugs does not require any programming skills.
[08:14] <umarmung> ScottK: If the theme author likes to use the gentoo icon as spinner, it works as intended.
[08:14] <Lhademmor> ScottK: All right then, I'll try triaging for a while. Any important links (other distro's bugtracking, something else)?
[08:14] <ScottK> umarmung: OK.  Then I'm good with rejecting.
[08:14] <ScottK> Lhademmor: They are in the channel topic.
[08:15] <Lhademmor> d'oh..
[08:15] <ScottK> No problem.
[08:16] <Lhademmor> btw, some pages relating to BugSquad on the wiki seems a bit obsolete?
[08:16] <bdmurray> Lhademmor: for example?
[08:17] <Lhademmor> bdmurray: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBugDay announcing "Next hug day on March 23nd"
[08:17] <bdmurray> okay, got me there
[08:17] <bdmurray> How does next Wednesday sound for a hug day?
[08:18] <Lhademmor> Dunno. I'm new here
[08:18] <bdmurray> pochu, Hobbsee, ScottK ?
[08:19] <Hobbsee> bdmurray: sounds fine to me.  kubuntu meeting that day too
[08:19] <Hobbsee> but i've got no idea what shape i'll be in then :P
[08:19] <ScottK> Fine with me I supposed.
[08:19] <ScottK> supposed/suppose.
[08:19] <Lhademmor> Also, the SourcePackage page is not created, but I guess that's a job for the docteam
[08:21] <bdmurray> Lhademmor: which SourcePackage page?  I don't see that link
[08:22] <Lhademmor> bdmurray: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HelpingWithBugs at the "Fixing bugs" section
[08:23] <micahcowan> Could somebody look at bug 69201, and tell me if it looks fairly certain to be a kernel bug, rather than coreutils? The segfault messages on that page look like dmesgs, which is part of what leads me to that conclusion, along with the fact that issues in several packages seem to depend on the Ubuntu release (edgy vs dapper)
[08:23] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 69201 in coreutils "ls segmentation fault" [Medium,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/69201
[08:23] <tuxmaniac> micahcowan, is that vi bug a change after Edgy on Specs?
[08:23] <tuxmaniac> micahcowan, the one that you rejected
[08:24] <micahcowan> I believe it's a change starting with Edgy.
[08:24] <micahcowan> tuxmaniac
[08:24] <tuxmaniac> micahcowan, aah ok Thanks for the input :-)
[08:24] <pochu> bdmurray: sounds sane! we're missing a hug day for a long time :)
[08:24] <micahcowan> tuxmaniac, ironically, I also have a bug complaining that vi (when vim-gnome is installed, and /usr/bin/vim) /does/ support cursor keys! :)
[08:24] <tuxmaniac> :-))
[08:25] <Lhademmor> Anyone got a link to a list of terminal commands?
[08:25] <micahcowan> Lhademmor, any in particular?  I'm not sure what you're asking. :)
[08:26] <ubotu> New bug: #115079 in firefox (main) "firefox crashed often when opening a video" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/115079
[08:26] <micahcowan> Do you mean, what are some other good commands besides grep?
[08:26] <bdmurray> micahcowan: 69201 looks like bad memory or something wacky
[08:26] <Lhademmor> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BugSquad/Diaries/dholbach - the section "Initial triage (*)"
[08:26] <Lhademmor> There's the command "apt-cache show multitail | grep File "
[08:26] <micahcowan> bddebian, as in bad hard memory? But then, why would it change depending on dapper/edgy?
[08:26] <Lhademmor> Just trying to understand what that means
[08:27] <micahcowan> I was personally leaning towards xfs bug.
[08:28] <tuxmaniac> Lhademmor, you want to know what grep does?
[08:28] <micahcowan> Lhademmor, what "grep" means? ... you could look at what "man grep" gives you, but you should really read a good introduction to the Unix command line to get a good introduction.
[08:28] <bdmurray> micahcowan: okay reading more that could be
[08:28] <Lhademmor> Please mentor me: Could https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/firefox/+bug/115079 be tagged as need-i386-retrace or not because it's not an Apport?
[08:28] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 115079 in firefox "firefox crashed often when opening a video" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]
[08:28] <Lhademmor> micahcowan: That was what I was looking for, thank you :)"
[08:29] <micahcowan> Lhademmor, do you understand regular expressions? grep relies on them pretty heavily.
[08:29] <Lhademmor> micahcowan: No, not yet. I'm looking for a place to start learning
[08:29] <micahcowan> Although, it looks like the grep manpage actually gives a good explanation of regexes.
[08:30] <micahcowan> bdmurray, but I don't want to confirm that unless I can be relatively certain that it's xfs, and not (say) glibc.
[08:30] <tuxmaniac> Lhademmor, http://pegasus.rutgers.edu/~elflord/unix/grep.html
[08:30] <bdmurray> Lhademmor: I replied to that firefox bug take a look at my response
[08:31] <Lhademmor> Thanks both
[08:31] <bdmurray> micahcowan: wouldn't /var/log/messages contain fs information?
[08:32] <micahcowan> Lhademmor, I have heard good things about this free online book: http://unixmages.com/ (click on "The First Book"). It teaches the basics of the Unix command-line, by pretending that you are casting magical spells :)
[08:32] <micahcowan> I haven't gone through it yet myself, but a friend has. I'm planning to look it over more thoroughly when I get the chance.
[08:33] <micahcowan> bdmurray, what sort of information?
[08:33] <Lhademmor> micahcowan: nice :)
[08:35] <bdmurray> Kernel error messages regarding the filesytem if that is infact the problem?
[08:36] <ubotu> New bug: #115080 in Ubuntu "gstreamer-properties not opening" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/115080
[08:36] <ubotu> New bug: #115081 in evolution (main) "path text doen't fit in widget in the 'receiving email' config dialog " [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/115081
[08:37] <tuxmaniac> bug 115002 is strange. Since there are lots more people who are having similar probs do I mark it confirmed? What more info is required to go ahead in fixing the bug?
[08:37] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 115002 in firefox "Firefox opens new window instead of new tab" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/115002
[08:37] <micahcowan> bdmurray, I'm not sure; it might depend on the problem...
[08:37] <bdmurray> okay, it might be worth just pinging the reporter to see if they are still having issues etc . . .
[08:38] <micahcowan> bdmurray, well given that the user (apparently) reverted to dapper, I may not be able to do that... but I'll see if I can get some more information from them. Thanks!
[08:39] <micahcowan> tuxmaniac, could it be a dupe of other bugs? Otherwise, I'd say, it looks to me like there's sufficient information. It probably happened as the result of an upgrade, and that particular config option checking the value of an option that is no longer used, or somesuch.
[08:39] <bdmurray> micahcowan: the way I read it they still have an issue with tar on dapper right?
[08:39] <micahcowan> bdmurray, yes; I was going to suggest that they open a separate bug report for the tar thing, as it sounds like a separate issue.
[08:40] <tuxmaniac> micahcowan, I am searching for dupes
[08:42] <micahcowan> Hey!
[08:43] <Hobbsee> woo!
[08:43] <Hobbsee> yummy!
[08:43] <micahcowan> phosphoric
[08:48] <tuxmaniac> bug 115042 and bug 115025 seem to be dupes. The threadstack trace appear same and also the description. Any body having different opinion before duplicating it?
[08:48] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 115042 in firefox "[feisty]  firefox crashed" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/115042
[08:48] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 115025 in firefox "[feisty]  firefox crashed" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/115025
[08:48] <Lhademmor> Well, methinks we have a duplicate
[08:48] <Hobbsee> looks like a dupe, that's been filed twice
[08:48] <Hobbsee> it happens
[08:49] <bdmurray> I'm cautious about working with firefox bugs as I'm not totally familiar with the Mozilla team practices
[08:50] <tuxmaniac> Hobbsee, no. its files by two differnt people
[08:50] <Hobbsee> ahh
[08:50] <tuxmaniac> bdmurray, exactly.
[08:50] <Hobbsee> oh, it's not sequential
[08:50] <Lhademmor> Is it normal procedure to start out only triaging for bugs concerning certain packages? Or do you just triage randomly?
[08:50] <jjesse_> usually specific packages i know stuff about
[08:51] <Hobbsee> or as they come up in here
[08:51] <Hobbsee> usually it's specific packages
[08:52] <Lhademmor> Like what?
[08:52] <tuxmaniac> any pointers on what to do with those bugs?
[08:52] <tuxmaniac> can I mark it duplicate?
[08:53] <jjesse> Lhademmor: for me it is the little stuff that i know how to do, asking for more information, ffollowing up with those, etc
[08:53] <Lhademmor> Personal request: Can somebody please look at bug 111191 ?
[08:53] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 111191 in Ubuntu "ThinkPad R51 crash(?) when re-opening the lid" [Undecided,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/111191
[08:53] <tuxmaniac> else /me is random
[08:54] <Lhademmor> I confirmed my own bug...
[08:55] <Lhademmor> Also, please reject bug 114217 since I screwed up
[08:55] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 114217 in yelp "Recommend a file converter for Windows in official Ubuntu documentation" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/114217
[08:55] <bdmurray> tuxmaniac: I recall asac saying that the top of the stack trace for firefox retraces isn't "accurate" (for lack of a better word) and looking deeper into the retrace (attachment) they differ so I wouldn't dup them
[08:55] <jjesse> Lhademmor: i'll take a look at that bug
[08:55] <asac> right
[08:55] <Lhademmor> jjesse: Thanks :)
[08:55] <jjesse> Lhademmor: why should i reject this?
[08:56] <tuxmaniac> bdmurray, I saw that too in the retrace. :-) they seem to differ.
[08:56] <Lhademmor> Which one? The first one shouldn't be rejected. Only the yelp-related one
[08:56] <bdmurray> asac: that was fast.  Did you mean me?
[08:56] <jjesse> bug 114217 you said to reject
[08:56] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 114217 in yelp "Recommend a file converter for Windows in official Ubuntu documentation" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/114217
[08:56] <asac> bdmurray: yes :)
[08:56] <asac> bdmurray: you have to look in stack below the signal handler
[08:56] <asac> bdmurray: above that its always the same
[08:56] <Lhademmor> Because I assigned it to the yelp-package, when it in fact turned out to be the official Ubuntu documentation
[08:57] <tuxmaniac> asac, hmm. I will keep that in mind
[08:57] <jjesse> Lhademmor: so reject it to the yelp and assign instead to ubutnu doc
[08:57] <Lhademmor> jjesse: Good idea. I didn't know that package existed.
[08:58] <jjesse> Lhademmor: just search for ubuntu doc when you assign it tothe package
[08:58] <Lhademmor> done
[08:58] <Lhademmor> no
[08:58] <jjesse> bug 114217
[08:58] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 114217 in ubuntu-docs "Recommend a file converter for Windows in official Ubuntu documentation" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/114217
[08:58] <Lhademmor> "Theres no page with this address in Launchpad."
[08:59] <Lhademmor> Hmm... Works anyway it seems
[08:59] <Lhademmor> But it's really bug 111191 that's more important to me
[08:59] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 111191 in Ubuntu "ThinkPad R51 crash(?) when re-opening the lid" [Undecided,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/111191
[09:01] <bdmurray> Lhademmor: what kind of video card do you have?  which video driver are you using?
[09:01] <tuxmaniac> I will confirm since they have provided enough info and assign it to Mozilla-bugs team?
[09:02] <Lhademmor> bdmurray: ATI I think.. Checking now
[09:04] <Lhademmor> bdmurray: "ATI Radeon Mobility M7 LW"
[09:04] <bdmurray> tuxmaniac: Crashers start in mt-needreport tag if they don't have a proper crash report attached; as soon as a report is available they get tagged mt-needretrace; as soon as symbolized report is available they get tagged mt-confirm.
[09:05] <tuxmaniac> bdmurray, what about asignee?
[09:06] <bdmurray> That team searches on tags I believe
[09:06] <tuxmaniac> bddebian, hmm ok
[09:06] <tuxmaniac> err bdmurray
[09:07] <bdmurray> so assignment isn't really necessary afaik
[09:08] <Lhademmor> bdmurray: ?
[09:08] <bddebian> Yeah stop that shit :-)
[09:09] <bdmurray> Lhademmor: what driver though? you could check with 'grep driver /etc/X11/xorg.conf'
[09:09] <tuxmaniac> bddebian, heya
[09:10] <Lhademmor> bdmurray: Where? In terminal?
[09:11] <ubotu> New bug: #115085 in nvclock (universe) "[apport]  nvclock_qt crashed with SIGSEGV in sprintf()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/115085
[09:11] <bdmurray> Lhademmor: yes
[09:11] <Lhademmor> bdmurray: Ehh... Writing grep driver /etc/X11/xorg.conf does... nothing.
[09:15] <bdmurray> Lhademmor: what about 'lsmod | egrep "radeon|fglrx"'
[09:15] <ranf> Lhademmor, it's often written "Driver" use "grep -i" that is case insensitive then.
[09:16] <ubotu> New bug: #115086 in firefox (main) "Firefox crash with "BadShmSeg" error" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/115086
[09:16] <ubotu> New bug: #115087 in update-manager (main) "Update manager fails - Read error  read (5 input/output error)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/115087
[09:16] <Lhademmor> ranf: That worked
[09:16] <Lhademmor> A list popped up
[09:17] <Lhademmor> "kbd", "mouse", "synaptics", "wacom", "wacom", "wacom", "ati"
[09:17] <Lhademmor> Makes sense?
[09:19] <ranf> Yes it does. different drivers for doifferent devices
[09:20] <Lhademmor> So what did you need it for?
[09:20] <bdmurray> make sure you weren't using the fglrx issues as I think that has some resume from hibernate issues
[09:21] <ubotu> New bug: #115088 in Ubuntu "[upgrade 6.10 ->7.10]  Alert! /dev/hda7 does not exist. Dropping to a shell!!" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/115088
[09:21] <ubotu> New bug: #115089 in wifi-radar (universe) "mouse freezes during use " [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/115089
[09:22] <Lhademmor> bdmurray: I didn't just understand that
[09:22] <kbrook1> hi.
[09:22] <kbrook1> um, i have a poss bug.
[09:23] <micahcowan> Hi kbrook1.
[09:23] <kbrook1> erm
[09:23] <kbrooks> ok
[09:24] <kbrooks> poss bug:
[09:24] <bdmurray> Lhademmor: I wanted to make sure you were not using the fglrx driver for you video card.  I believe it has some issues resuming from suspend.
[09:24] <Lhademmor> bdmurray: Are you sure of that now?
[09:24] <kbrooks> system > admin > network. eth0 wired? go to properties for it.
[09:25] <kbrooks> there should be a "enable roaming mode" checkbox there.
[09:25] <bdmurray> Lhademmor: That you aren't using it or that it has issues?
[09:25] <ubotu> New bug: #115091 in Ubuntu "konqueror crashes in kubuntu consulting folder properties" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/115091
[09:25] <Lhademmor> bdmurray: that I'm not using it
[09:25] <kbrooks> probably not supposed to be there
[09:25] <kbrooks> this is in 7.04
[09:26] <bdmurray> Lhademmor: fairly certain.  you could try 'lsmod | grep fglrx' to be certain
[09:26] <Lhademmor> bdmurray: Nothing happens
[09:27] <bdmurray> okay, then you aren't using it
[09:28] <taggy> can i sync my ubuntu repository mirror with the main mirror every week or so ? how can  i do it
[09:30] <ubotu> New bug: #115092 in update-manager (main) "Unnecessary Reboots after Updates" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/115092
[09:31] <bdmurray> Lhademmor: we'll need this info I suspect https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/Responses#head-45808066734637ee99b63d089b514e2dff49b231
[09:32] <Lhademmor> bdmurray: I'm on it
[09:37] <Lhademmor> bdmurray: Where does the dmesg.log file end up?
[09:37] <Lhademmor> forget it
[09:39] <kbrooks> Lhademmor: just use dmesg
[09:39] <Lhademmor> bdmurray: Info added now. Better?
[09:42] <micahcowan> Can someone give me a command to find what packages depend upon "package A"?
[09:44] <bdmurray> Lhademmor: the uuids for your swap partition and where you are trying to resume from differ
[09:45] <Lhademmor> bdmurray: Oops, that's right. I reinstalled Ubuntu afterwards.. Sry 'bout that
[09:45] <Lhademmor> But wait... All the logs are from now
[09:45] <Lhademmor> So what do you mean?
[09:45] <bdmurray> Adding 642560k swap on /dev/disk/by-uuid/738ae5ed-ebe7-48d2-a39c-5e54ef4271fc
[09:46] <bdmurray> er, misread a line in dmesg
[09:46] <bdmurray> Lhademmor: could you add your grub.conf to your bug report?
[09:47] <Lhademmor> bdmurray: How?
[09:47] <Lhademmor> or where?
[09:48] <bdmurray> it's at /boot/grub/menu.lst
[09:50] <hggdh> micahcowan: apt-cache rdepends <package>
[09:51] <ubotu> New bug: #115095 in udev (main) "[apport]  udevd crashed with SIGSEGV" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/115095
[09:51] <Lhademmor> bdmurray: Like now?
[09:52] <micahcowan> hggdh, thanks much.
[09:55] <bdmurray> Lhademmor: I don't see a resume option in your menu.lst
[09:56] <Lhademmor> bdmurray: Meaning?
[09:57] <bdmurray> It is not going to try to resume from anywhere as far as I can see
[09:57] <Lhademmor> bdmurray: Is that my fault?
[09:57] <bdmurray> hard to say
[09:58] <bdmurray> in the defoptions line try appending resume=UUID=738ae5ed-ebe7-48d2-a39c-5e54ef4271fc
[09:59] <Lhademmor_> Now I'm on the right PC
[10:00] <Lhademmor> Funny writing to yourself
[10:00] <ubotu> New bug: #115096 in hal (main) "HAL 0.5.9 causes delay with Gnome power manager applet" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/115096
[10:01] <Lhademmor_> bdmurray: Please repeat that for my new clone?
[10:02] <Lhademmor> in the defoptions line try appending resume=UUID=738ae5ed-ebe7-48d2-a39c-5e54ef4271fc
[10:03] <Lhademmor_> bdmurray: Any possibility this might crash my computer?
[10:05] <ubotu> New bug: #115097 in Ubuntu "Ubuntu Failst to install on  Compaq presario F5000" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/115097
[10:09] <Lhademmor_> yo'
[10:10] <ubotu> New bug: #115098 in firefox (main) "while opening a map with the map player (swf i guess) it crashed" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/115098
[10:13] <Lhademmor> bdmurray: ?
[10:21] <ubotu> New bug: #115099 in gnome-volume-manager (main) "DVD with UDF filesytem fails to be mounted by gnome-volume-manager" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/115099
[10:22] <slackwarelife> Lhademmor: I think bdmurray is to lunch
[10:23] <Lhademmor> slackwarelife: Lunch?! It's 10 pm. here!
[10:23] <slackwarelife> Lhademmor: he is  in PDT = UTC - 7 hours
[10:23] <Lhademmor> omg
[10:24] <slackwarelife> Lhademmor: I think there is 13 pm
[10:24] <Lhademmor> Oh well.. Then I'll delay the decision. Don't want my laptop crashing a few days before my exam...
[10:25] <ubotu> New bug: #115100 in gnome-terminal (main) "Terminal displays as a blank window" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/115100
[10:29] <kbrooks> look at https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/6712 pls ty
[10:29] <bdmurray> Lhademmor: nah, it shouldn't crash it and is easily fixable
[10:30] <bdmurray> you'll need to run update-grub though as root
[10:30] <Lhademmor> bdmurray: and how do I du *that*?
[10:30] <ubotu> New bug: #115101 in Ubuntu "MTU size causes hangs with NFS, probable RTL-8169 NIC driver issue" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/115101
[10:35] <bdmurray> Lhademmor: sudo update-grub
[10:35] <ubotu> New bug: #115102 in Ubuntu "[edgy -> feisty]  no more display with nvidia drivers, can't switch to console" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/115102
[10:40] <ubotu> New bug: #115104 in evolution-exchange (main) "[apport]  evolution-exchange-storage crashed with SIGSEGV"" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/115104
[10:46] <ubotu> New bug: #115106 in evolution-exchange (main) "[apport]  evolution-exchange-storage crashed with SIGSEGV in g_str_hash()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/115106
[10:47] <Lhademmor_> bdmurray: Right now the line says "defoptions=quiet splash" - what should I add where?
[10:47] <bdmurray> in the defoptions line try appending resume=UUID=738ae5ed-ebe7-48d2-a39c-5e54ef4271fc
[10:47] <bdmurray> so the resume= part
[10:48] <Lhademmor-> "so the resume= part" <-- what?
[10:48] <bdmurray> defoptions=quiet splash resume=UUID=738ae5ed-ebe7-48d2-a39c-5e54ef4271fc
[10:50] <Lhademmor-> It won't let me save (using gedit)
[10:51] <bdmurray> Lhademmor-: you need to edit it as root
[10:51] <ubotu> New bug: #115107 in checkinstall (universe) "checkinstall cannot install" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/115107
[10:56] <ubotu> New bug: #115110 in Ubuntu "freeze aMSN" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/115110
[10:56] <Lhademmor-> bdmurray: And yet another stupid question.. How do I make gedit treat me as root?
[10:57] <bdmurray> uh got me there.  maybe sudo gedit in a terminal?
[10:59] <Lhademmor-> Works
[11:00] <Lhademmor-> Done.
[11:00] <Lhademmor-> bdmurray: Line added. File saved. Grub updated. Now what?
[11:01] <bdmurray> Hibernate and reboot
[11:01] <bdmurray> or hibernate and resume rather
[11:01] <Lhademmor-> Trying out now
[11:02] <Lhademmor> And I can document what happens
[11:02] <Lhademmor> Lots of text about some usbdecx_1
[11:03] <Lhademmor> *usbdev_x_x
[11:03] <Lhademmor> Gone black
[11:03] <Lhademmor> Trying to start up now
[11:04] <Lhademmor> Recieving normal grub dual boot screen
[11:04] <Lhademmor> Selecting Ubuntu
[11:04] <Lhademmor> Beep recieved
[11:04] <Lhademmor> Moon-lamp flashing
[11:05] <Lhademmor-> Heu-friggin'-reka! It WORKS!
[11:05] <ubotu> New bug: #115108 in linux-wlan-ng (main) "please merge linux-wlan-ng 0.2.8+dfsg-1 from debian unstable" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/115108
[11:05] <ubotu> New bug: #115112 in firefox (main) "Missing man page" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/115112
[11:05] <ubotu> New bug: #115113 in gaphor (universe) "[apport]  gaphor crashed with TypeError: Cannot create a consistent method resolution" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/115113
[11:05] <Lhademmor-> halleujah!
[11:06] <Lhademmor_> bdmurray: That part seems to be working all rights now :)
[11:07] <Lhademmor> Now onto the other problem...
[11:07] <Lhademmor> Are you still there?
[11:08] <bdmurray> yes, I am still here.  I'm glad that hibernation is working for you now.
[11:08] <Lhademmor> :)
[11:09] <morty> Hi, I'm triaging a bug report and it seems to be two bugs in two packages. A php module has a small mistake which is causing php to crash when it shouldn't. Should I open another bug so that there is one for each?
[11:10] <Lhademmor> Okay. Testing different functions of "closing the lid, do X" now...
[11:10] <Lhademmor> First: "Do nothing"
[11:10] <Lhademmor> Lid closed
[11:10] <bdmurray> morty: what bug is that?
[11:10] <Lhademmor_> Hi
[11:10] <ubotu> New bug: #115114 in gnome-panel (main) "i cant add more than 1 workspace an error appears" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/115114
[11:10] <Lhademmor> Lid reopened and all is fine.
[11:11] <morty> #113837
[11:11] <Lhademmor> So that one's cool :)
[11:11] <Lhademmor> Next: "Blank screen"
[11:11] <bdmurray> bug 113837
[11:11] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 113837 in php-soap "SOAP module crashes php" [Undecided,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/113837
[11:11] <Lhademmor> Lid closed
[11:13] <bdmurray> morty: it is possible for a bug to have multipe "tasks", so you could add a task for php5.  does that make sense?
[11:13] <Lhademmor_> Hi
[11:13] <Lhademmor> Works fine too... This is cool!
[11:13] <morty> bdmurray: How do I do that?
[11:14] <Lhademmor> Third possibility: Standby
[11:14] <Lhademmor> Lid closed
[11:14] <Lhademmor> beep received. Standby working. Reopening lid
[11:15] <crimsun> morty: click Also Affects Distribution, choose Ubuntu in the drop-down, then enter the name of the source package in Ubuntu.
[11:15] <bdmurray> morty: by clicking the distribution link on the far right
[11:15] <Lhademmor_> Hi
[11:15] <bdmurray> crimsun: does another task seem appropriate to you?
[11:15] <Lhademmor> Standby works too.
[11:15] <crimsun> bdmurray: I came in on the tail end and just answered that part
[11:15] <Lhademmor> bdmurray: You're my new hero - thanks a bunch it all works fine now :D
[11:16] <crimsun> bdmurray: haven't read the bug report yet - in a phone conf.
[11:16] <morty> bdmurray: Ah I see, I didn't realise you could do that for other Ubuntu packages. Thanks
[11:17] <bdmurray> morty: no problem it is a bit unintuitative
[11:19] <morty> bdmurray: yes the word "distribution" made me think I could only link to other distros. Thanks for your help.
[11:19] <Lhademmor_> bdmurray: I guess that means the bug is resolved?
[11:19] <Lhademmor_> thought this was an individual bugfix it seems :)
[11:20] <bdmurray> Lhademmor_: yes, I think so
[11:21] <Lhademmor> bdmurray: Should there be done something about that grub-thing in general or was this the only problem of it's kind?
[11:23] <bdmurray> I think it is hard to say given the amount of information we have at this point in time.
[11:24] <Lhademmor_> bdmurray > Is there anything I can do to help further in the matter?
[11:25] <ubotu> New bug: #115115 in openoffice.org (main) "[apport]  soffice.bin crashed with SIGSEGV in ffi_call()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/115115
[11:26] <bdmurray> I don't think so I haven't seen issues like that very much.
[11:26] <Lhademmor_> Okay.
[11:26] <Lhademmor_> Thanks again, though
[11:31] <bdmurray> Lhademmor_: no problem
[11:55] <ubotu> New bug: #115116 in thunderbird (main) "Deleted folder in Thunderbird appears empty even when I've just deleted an email" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/115116


[05:14] <generalsnus> The past week i have tried to come up with a solution for authenticating linux clients to W2k3 AD, and also mount the users /home folders when they login, with no extra authentication. seems that the mounting of /home..is the biggest problem here. so if this aint possible. is there a "easy" howto..to do the same thing with a openLDAP server as authentication?
[07:16] <jimjimovich> can someone point me to the edubuntu 8.04 server install docs?  can't seem to find them from the site
[11:46] <willvdl> Hola compadres. I'm gracing these hallowed halls once again
[13:45] <wima> i noticed that in 8.10, icons for local devices end up on _every_ desktop... So if somebody plugs in a USB stick, an icon will appear on all the desktops. Does anyone has an idea of what could be the problem here?


[07:18] <oSoMoN> good morning desktoppers
[07:23] <didrocks> good morning
[07:32] <pieq> salut les desktoppers :)
[07:34] <oSoMoN> salut didrocks, pieq
[07:38] <didrocks> salut pieq, oSoMoN
[07:38] <pieq> a friend of mine (running 19.10) saw that Firefox 73 was released and was wondering why he didn't have it in the repo yet. I told him to be patient :) but I was wondering what was the process from the desktop team
[07:39] <duflu> Morning oSoMoN, didrocks, pieq
[08:21] <jibel> pieq, he could use the snap. 73 is in the candidate channel
[08:21] <jibel> bonjour BTW
[08:24] <pieq> jibel, merci, je transmets. But I was just curious about the current debian packaging process.
[08:53] <oSoMoN> pieq, the process is the following: I push the new version to the current devel series (currently focal) and I prepare backports for all supported releases in a PPA, which I then validate and hand over to the security team for publication
[08:53] <oSoMoN> the security team does their own validation and verifications, and then publish to the -security and -updates pockets
[08:54] <oSoMoN> firefox 73.0 is ready for publication as far as I'm concerned
[08:55] <oSoMoN> it should hit {bionic,eoan}-{security,updates} very soon
[08:55] <oSoMoN> (xenial is a different matter this time, blocked on bug #1856861)
[09:07] <pieq> oSoMoN, thanks a lot for the explanation!
[09:07] <oSoMoN> you're welcome
[09:08] <marcustomlinson> doko: on it
[09:08] <marcustomlinson> morning desktoppers
[09:09] <oSoMoN> good morning marcustomlinson
[09:10] <Wimpress> Morning o/
[09:10] <marcustomlinson> hey oSoMoN and Wimpress
[09:10] <oSoMoN> morning Wimpress
[09:15] <didrocks> hey Wimpress, marcustomlinson
[09:21] <marcustomlinson> hey didrocks
[09:21] <duflu> Morning marcustomlinson and Wimpress
[09:21] <duflu> My scrollback failed again
[09:22] <marcustomlinson> morning duflu
[09:22] <marcustomlinson> well my morning at least
[09:26] <duflu> http://www.total-knowledge.com/~ilya/mips/ugt.html
[09:26] <marcustomlinson> :)
[09:37] <oSoMoN> :)
[09:43] <oSoMoN> salsa.debian.org is down, that's untimely
[10:49] <Laney> greetings!
[10:51] <marcustomlinson> morning Laney
[10:56] <ricotz> good morning
[11:00] <marcustomlinson> hi ricotz
[11:02] <Laney> hey marcustomlinson ricotz
[11:04] <duflu> Morning Laney
[11:05] <didrocks> hey Laney
[11:11] <Laney> hey marcustomlinson ricotz duflu didrocks
[11:32] <tkamppeter> Some core dev around here? Could you have a look at bug 1862926? It updates SANE to make the scanning in nearly all modern multi-function printers work and hopefully also stops users from mucking around with HPLIP (bug 1766020).
[12:39] <ogra> oSoMoN, my chromium madly spams my journal with denials recently ...
[12:39] <ogra> ogra@acheron:~$ journalctl |grep chromium|grep -c DENIED
[12:39] <ogra> 142918
[12:40] <ogra> apparmor="DENIED" operation="open" profile="snap.chromium.chromium" name="/home/ogra/snap/chromium/1005/.config/chromium/Default/Cookies-journal" pid=16571 comm="ThreadPoolForeg" requested_mask="wc" denied_mask="wc" fsuid=1000 ouid=1000
[12:41] <ogra> (i assume an issue with the "refresh awarenes" ? )
[13:49] <sil2100> jibel: hey! You around today?
[13:51] <jibel> sil2100, hi
[14:24] <GunnarHj> Wimpress: Do you possibly have time to sponsor the debdiff at bug #1861481?
[14:43] <oSoMoN> ogra, that sounds like it, indeed. Do you have experimental.refresh-app-awareness set to true?
[14:43] <ogra> let me check
[14:44] <ogra> nope, only hotplug in the output ...
[14:44] <ogra> should i set it for next update ?
[14:45] <oSoMoN> ogra, I highly recommend it
[14:46] <oSoMoN> I've had it on for a few months and it works nicely
[14:46] <ogra> ok ...
[14:46]  * ogra will watch the logs after next update ...
[15:18] <Wimpress> GunnarHj: Let me take a look.
[15:20] <GunnarHj> Wimpress: Sure. I'm here if you need any clarifications.
[15:20] <Wimpress> Looks sensible to me, sadly lightdm is not in my package set :-(
[15:22] <GunnarHj> Wimpress: What?? it's in the ubuntu-mate packageset, and I took for granted that you were one of the uploaders.
[15:26] <GunnarHj> Wimpress: https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/packagesets/focal/ubuntu-mate
[15:26] <Wimpress> lightdm is in the ubuntu-mate packageset? #TIL
[15:27] <Wimpress> OK, leave that with me. I'll take a look later.
[15:28] <GunnarHj> Great. :)
[15:34] <oSoMoN> Laney, fyi, I'm working on the gnome-initial-setup update
[15:35] <oSoMoN> Séb already updated it in debian, so I'm doing the ubuntu part only
[15:37] <Laney> sweet
[15:45] <hellsworth> good morning desktopers
[15:45] <marcustomlinson> hey hellsworth
[15:45] <oSoMoN> good morning hellsworth
[15:45] <hellsworth> hi yall!
[15:47] <didrocks> hey hellsworth
[15:48] <hellsworth> hi there didrocks :)
[15:48] <kenvandine> good morning hellsworth
[15:48] <Wimpress> Hello hellsworth o/
[15:49] <hellsworth> good morning indeed
[15:49] <hellsworth> hi everyone. hugs all around :)
[17:11] <oSoMoN> gnome-initial-setup done: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-initial-setup/3.35.90-1ubuntu1
[17:14] <hellsworth> nice!
[17:14] <hellsworth> i'll use this as an example when i do one :)


[02:31] <JesseH> There are people here @.@
[02:31] <JesseH> \o/
[02:32] <kevinf311-lap> nope
[02:32] <kevinf311-lap> we are but illusions
[02:33] <JesseH> O.o
[02:33] <JesseH> I am rather tired...that could be a possibility.
[02:33] <kevinf311-lap> this channel has been on my auto-join for so long
[02:33] <kevinf311-lap> i don't even live in GA anymore
[02:33] <kevinf311-lap> or use Ubuntu!
[02:33] <JesseH> Heh, where do you live and what do you use? ;D
[02:34] <kevinf311-lap> MD and Mint (so nearly ubuntu)
[02:35] <JesseH> We all stray away from the good path sometimes...
[02:35] <JesseH> I've never used Mint extensively.
[02:36] <kevinf311-lap> this is my first foray into it; the direction both Ubuntu and the Gnome team were going was not what i liked
[02:36] <kevinf311-lap> ubuntu got me to use linux full time, so they'll always have a place in my heart
[02:37] <kevinf311-lap> but the community and I had some disagreements and then unity
[02:37] <kevinf311-lap> blec
[02:37] <kevinf311-lap> h
[02:37] <JesseH> Linux man
[02:37] <JesseH> We can make a difference in Ubuntu
[02:37] <JesseH> Just have to stick to it
[02:37] <JesseH> Ubuntu got me using Linux full time, so it's the same.
[02:39] <JesseH> I'm trying to find ways to give back. :P
[02:39] <kevinf311-lap> aye
[02:39] <kevinf311-lap> i was once very active on the forums and irc helping those who needed it
[13:22] <JesseH> oh lord
[13:22] <JesseH> excess flood?


[11:07] <czajkowski> http://www.flickr.com/photos/whykay/sets/72157625665064748/ pics from the xmas quiz


[07:47] <lotuspsychje> Flannel: are you gonna kick every volunteer that tries to help #ubuntu?
[07:47] <Flannel> lotuspsychje: You've been talked to *many* times about not just throwing factoids at people.  You definitely know better.
[07:47] <lotuspsychje> nobody replyed to that guy, the reccomended postfix factoid could be usefull to config his problem
[07:48] <Flannel> No, it has nothing to do with what he was asking.
[07:48] <lotuspsychje> Flannel: nobody ever warned me ever about factoids, you can check the logs about it
[07:48] <Flannel> If that's the case, then I'm sorry for kicking you.  I obviously got you confused with someone else.
[07:49] <lotuspsychje> you did the same with alkisg too..we lost that guy
[07:49] <lotuspsychje> he supported #ubuntu for years here
[07:50] <Flannel> While I generally have a policy of not discussing operator actions with other people, I'll just say no.
[07:50] <Flannel> alkisg was being belligerent and was removed because of that.
[07:50] <Flannel> Just because someone does support doesn't give anyone a free pass to also cause problems.
[07:51] <lotuspsychje> so 1 little problem can override years of support?
[07:52] <Flannel> You've got it backwards.  "years of support" doesn't give you a get out of jail free card if you're harassing someone.
[07:52] <Flannel> lotuspsychje: Besides, it was only a kick, after two warnings.  He isn't banned.
[07:53] <lotuspsychje> i know he isnt, but a kick in this case resulted that he will never come back, never help users here anymore
[07:53] <lotuspsychje> for us thats a great lost
[07:53] <Flannel> I will say we consider "total" behavior when it comes to longer bans, so you may get "more" chances to get kicked before you get a longer cooling off period.
[07:54] <Flannel> But an operator's responsibility to make sure the channel is a place where someone can get support.  Which means if someone is disrupting that, we need to stop that disruption.
[07:56] <Flannel> lotuspsychje: But anyway, I've been informed by some other people that you are not the person I was thinking of.  Which means, you're 100% correct that you shouldn't have been kicked.
[09:23] <KTHUANchat> ‚Ėą‚Ėą‚ēó‚Ėą‚Ėą‚Ėą‚Ėą‚Ėą‚Ėą‚ēó  ‚Ėą‚Ėą‚Ėą‚Ėą‚Ėą‚Ėą‚ēó   ‚Ėą‚Ėą‚Ėą‚Ėą‚Ėą‚Ėą‚Ėą‚ēó‚Ėą‚Ėą‚ēó   ‚Ėą‚Ėą‚ēó‚Ėą‚Ėą‚Ėą‚Ėą‚Ėą‚Ėą‚ēó ‚Ėą‚Ėą‚Ėą‚Ėą‚Ėą‚Ėą‚Ėą‚ēó‚Ėą‚Ėą‚Ėą‚Ėą‚Ėą‚Ėą‚ēó ‚Ėą‚Ėą‚Ėą‚ēó   ‚Ėą‚Ėą‚ēó‚Ėą‚Ėą‚Ėą‚Ėą‚Ėą‚Ėą‚Ėą‚ēó‚Ėą‚Ėą‚Ėą‚Ėą‚Ėą‚Ėą‚Ėą‚Ėą‚ēó‚Ėą‚Ėą‚Ėą‚Ėą‚Ėą‚Ėą‚Ėą‚ēó    ‚Ėą‚Ėą‚Ėą‚Ėą‚Ėą‚Ėą‚ēó ‚Ėą‚Ėą‚Ėą‚Ėą‚Ėą‚Ėą‚ēó  ‚Ėą‚Ėą‚Ėą‚Ėą‚Ėą‚Ėą‚ēó
[09:23] <KTHUANchat> ‚Ėą‚Ėą‚ēĎ‚Ėą‚Ėą‚ēĒ‚ēź‚ēź‚Ėą‚Ėą‚ēó‚Ėą‚Ėą‚ēĒ‚ēź‚ēź‚ēź‚ēź‚ēĚ   ‚Ėą‚Ėą‚ēĒ‚ēź‚ēź‚ēź‚ēź‚ēĚ‚Ėą‚Ėą‚ēĎ   ‚Ėą‚Ėą‚ēĎ‚Ėą‚Ėą‚ēĒ‚ēź‚ēź‚Ėą‚Ėą‚ēó‚Ėą‚Ėą‚ēĒ‚ēź‚ēź‚ēź‚ēź‚ēĚ‚Ėą‚Ėą‚ēĒ‚ēź‚ēź‚Ėą‚Ėą‚ēó‚Ėą‚Ėą‚Ėą‚Ėą‚ēó  ‚Ėą‚Ėą‚ēĎ‚Ėą‚Ėą‚ēĒ‚ēź‚ēź‚ēź‚ēź‚ēĚ‚ēö‚ēź‚ēź‚Ėą‚Ėą‚ēĒ‚ēź‚ēź‚ēĚ‚Ėą‚Ėą‚ēĒ‚ēź‚ēź‚ēź‚ēź‚ēĚ   ‚Ėą‚Ėą‚ēĒ‚ēź‚ēź‚ēź‚Ėą‚Ėą‚ēó‚Ėą‚Ėą‚ēĒ‚ēź‚ēź‚Ėą‚Ėą‚ēó‚Ėą‚Ėą‚ēĒ‚ēź‚ēź‚ēź‚ēź‚ēĚ
[09:23] <KTHUANchat> ‚Ėą‚Ėą‚ēĎ‚Ėą‚Ėą‚Ėą‚Ėą‚Ėą‚Ėą‚ēĒ‚ēĚ‚Ėą‚Ėą‚ēĎ        ‚Ėą‚Ėą‚Ėą‚Ėą‚Ėą‚Ėą‚Ėą‚ēó‚Ėą‚Ėą‚ēĎ   ‚Ėą‚Ėą‚ēĎ‚Ėą‚Ėą‚Ėą‚Ėą‚Ėą‚Ėą‚ēĒ‚ēĚ‚Ėą‚Ėą‚Ėą‚Ėą‚Ėą‚ēó  ‚Ėą‚Ėą‚Ėą‚Ėą‚Ėą‚Ėą‚ēĒ‚ēĚ‚Ėą‚Ėą‚ēĒ‚Ėą‚Ėą‚ēó ‚Ėą‚Ėą‚ēĎ‚Ėą‚Ėą‚Ėą‚Ėą‚Ėą‚ēó     ‚Ėą‚Ėą‚ēĎ   ‚Ėą‚Ėą‚Ėą‚Ėą‚Ėą‚Ėą‚Ėą‚ēó   ‚Ėą‚Ėą‚ēĎ   ‚Ėą‚Ėą‚ēĎ‚Ėą‚Ėą‚Ėą‚Ėą‚Ėą‚Ėą‚ēĒ‚ēĚ‚Ėą‚Ėą‚ēĎ  ‚Ėą‚Ėą‚Ėą‚ēó
[09:23] <KTHUANchat> ‚Ėą‚Ėą‚ēĎ‚Ėą‚Ėą‚ēĒ‚ēź‚ēź‚Ėą‚Ėą‚ēó‚Ėą‚Ėą‚ēĎ        ‚ēö‚ēź‚ēź‚ēź‚ēź‚Ėą‚Ėą‚ēĎ‚Ėą‚Ėą‚ēĎ   ‚Ėą‚Ėą‚ēĎ‚Ėą‚Ėą‚ēĒ‚ēź‚ēź‚ēź‚ēĚ ‚Ėą‚Ėą‚ēĒ‚ēź‚ēź‚ēĚ  ‚Ėą‚Ėą‚ēĒ‚ēź‚ēź‚Ėą‚Ėą‚ēó‚Ėą‚Ėą‚ēĎ‚ēö‚Ėą‚Ėą‚ēó‚Ėą‚Ėą‚ēĎ‚Ėą‚Ėą‚ēĒ‚ēź‚ēź‚ēĚ     ‚Ėą‚Ėą‚ēĎ   ‚ēö‚ēź‚ēź‚ēź‚ēź‚Ėą‚Ėą‚ēĎ   ‚Ėą‚Ėą‚ēĎ   ‚Ėą‚Ėą‚ēĎ‚Ėą‚Ėą‚ēĒ‚ēź‚ēź‚Ėą‚Ėą‚ēó‚Ėą‚Ėą‚ēĎ   ‚Ėą‚Ėą‚ēĎ
[09:23] <KTHUANchat> ‚Ėą‚Ėą‚ēĎ‚Ėą‚Ėą‚ēĎ  ‚Ėą‚Ėą‚ēĎ‚ēö‚Ėą‚Ėą‚Ėą‚Ėą‚Ėą‚Ėą‚ēó‚Ėą‚Ėą‚ēó‚Ėą‚Ėą‚Ėą‚Ėą‚Ėą‚Ėą‚Ėą‚ēĎ‚ēö‚Ėą‚Ėą‚Ėą‚Ėą‚Ėą‚Ėą‚ēĒ‚ēĚ‚Ėą‚Ėą‚ēĎ     ‚Ėą‚Ėą‚Ėą‚Ėą‚Ėą‚Ėą‚Ėą‚ēó‚Ėą‚Ėą‚ēĎ  ‚Ėą‚Ėą‚ēĎ‚Ėą‚Ėą‚ēĎ ‚ēö‚Ėą‚Ėą‚Ėą‚Ėą‚ēĎ‚Ėą‚Ėą‚Ėą‚Ėą‚Ėą‚Ėą‚Ėą‚ēó   ‚Ėą‚Ėą‚ēĎ   ‚Ėą‚Ėą‚Ėą‚Ėą‚Ėą‚Ėą‚Ėą‚ēĎ‚Ėą‚Ėą‚ēó‚ēö‚Ėą‚Ėą‚Ėą‚Ėą‚Ėą‚Ėą‚ēĒ‚ēĚ‚Ėą‚Ėą‚ēĎ  ‚Ėą‚Ėą‚ēĎ‚ēö‚Ėą‚Ėą‚Ėą‚Ėą‚Ėą‚Ėą‚ēĒ‚ēĚ
[19:56] <CoderEurope> Alrighty then, I need guidance in better IRC-ing for #ubuntu-offtopic that I was got the kick from afew days ago ? Any help appreciated.
[19:58] <el> i think we're past the point of that being worth our time
[20:00] <CoderEurope> You need to give a reason - just so I know - 'cos I really don't have a clue ?
[20:02] <el> because you've been coached in how to interact with people repeatedly in the past and have been completely dismissive.
[20:03] <el> i am not interested in expecting others to have to go through the same process as i've tried with you as that is an unfair expectation of their time.
[20:04] <CoderEurope> el, you are never on #ubuntu-offtopic, though - I wanna hear it from from the decision makers. and anyway - all you told me was not to discuss 'local news' - which I have fully complied with (?)
[20:05] <el> that was not the only thing i discussed with you
[20:05] <CoderEurope> Is it my name ?
[20:05] <el> why would your name be the problem?
[20:05] <CoderEurope> you tell me ?
[20:06] <el> CoderEurope: i'm not interested in your gaslighting. you brought the possibility up, why did you bring the possibility up.
[20:06] <CoderEurope> because some ppl don't like Europe, possibly ?
[20:07]  * el raises an eyebrow
[20:07] <CoderEurope> Is that a yes ?
[20:07] <dax> If the conclusion you came to after being repeatedly talked to about your behavior by multiple people, and being kicked from the channel immediately after being told by multiple chanops that you're annoying, is that this is somehow related to your nick, you are not competent to be in IRC channels that require any level of awareness or social nature whatsoever.
[20:07] <el> it is not
[20:11] <hggdh> CoderEurope: so, anything else? If not, please /part the channel
[20:18] <CoderEurope> dax, I may be in the wrong channel, perhaps - but unfortunately you act like an Emporer, and only chu said I was annoying, and you followed him - to which chu revealed he was exceedingly overdosed on alcohol. Let me be frank - I shall now leave this channel and all of the friends that I have made because you are barely loquacious at times, and I feel that all I am doing is nuturing these ubuntu friends. as such I have not booked to attend
[20:18] <CoderEurope> UbuCon Europe - and thereby I shall not be establishing a Loco using www.Ubuntu.im (which I own) - you nocious actions merely drive me to talk to local Ubuntu-ists more often as you give no alternative.  adieu. By the way - I shall now remove my ¬£4,500 in ubuntu bounties on bountysource aswell.
[20:19] <dax> About the only thing I have to say about that is: Ubuntu does Bountysource?
[20:19] <hggdh> nope
[20:20] <wxl> also can you *over*dose on alcohol and still be conscious?
[20:20] <el> yes
[20:21] <el> "overdose" is a complicated term
[21:20] <CoderEurope> Again you fail to talk the truth, and act like all you are interested in is money, not Free Software. Ubuntu and its components have been doing bountysource for years (YEARS !) Ubuntu BOUNTIES NOW REMOVED - except for other users contributions.