[02:58] <QwertyM> Its irritative yeah, Gosha I'd like an answer too
[02:59] <tapas> it's the threads
[02:59] <tapas> of the apps
[02:59] <QwertyM> Fx has been resolved tho, Amarok breaks by doin that
[02:59] <Gosha> no one knows? O_o ... Fx?
[02:59] <Lattyware> tapas: hmmm
[03:00] <tapas> the threads show as multiple processes under linux
[03:00] <Gosha> ah
[03:00] <Gosha> .. so ..
[03:00] <tapas> [in most linux process reporting tools, i.e. top/htop, etcc] ]
[03:00] <Gosha>  it's not like using 2.6% of the ram * 5?
[03:01] <tapas> linux process reporting is teh suxxor
[03:01] <tapas> it makes some twisted sense
[03:01] <Gosha> .. so, what should i use then?
[03:01] <tapas> Gosha: exactly
[03:01] <neurotech> Hi again.. what do you guys use to watch DVDs?
[03:01] <Gosha> .. using htop >_<
[03:01] <Enverex> Can someone explain this "linux-generic" kernel thing, doesn't this mean it's just using i386 now? What happened to the other optimised kernels?
[03:01] <tapas> Gosha: htop is cool
[03:01] <stefg> neurotech: vlc (with libdvdcss, of course)
[03:02] <Gosha> .. are there better ones?
[03:02] <tapas> Gosha: just keep in mind that processes that use the same image share the ram, too
[03:02] <neurotech> stefg how can I play a mounted DVD iso in VLC?
[03:02] <Gosha> huh?
[03:02] <DrLabel> hello ppl
[03:02] <Gosha> same image of what?
[03:02] <Roey> hi
[03:03] <tapas> Gosha: process image
[03:03] <tapas> [the binary blob]
[03:03] <Gosha> .. as in .. they take ram?
[03:03] <Roey> how about calling the next release after Feral Ferret  "Garry GNU"
[03:03] <DrLabel> first who can i force Ubuntu 6.10 to use generic kernel because we always want to use 386
[03:03] <Gosha> use
[03:03] <stefg> neurotech: mounted DVD or .iso-image on disk? check vlc's 'open directory' dialog :-)
[03:03] <akerr0r> benkong2: following that site, but having trouble downloading the software. can't seem to save cuz of this liveCD
[03:03] <Roey> muahaha, I kill me
[03:03] <tapas> Gosha: if you start the same program twice, linux will not use up twice the memory
[03:03] <Gosha> oh?
[03:04] <DrLabel> yes use
[03:04] <DrLabel> we always start XXXX.386 and i want XXX.generic
[03:05] <DrLabel> i have to esc at grub and manual select generic
[03:05] <neurotech> oh wow stefg, I dont even need to mount the ISO, VLC will play it directly!
[03:05] <Gosha> PID = ?
[03:05] <stefg> neurotech: thats what i was going to tell you :-)
[03:05] <neurotech> this is awesome
[03:05] <stefg> totem does that, too
[03:06] <DrLabel> Gosha PID =? is for me ????
[03:06] <Gosha> ... ?
[03:06] <QwertyM> when I do a sudo cp web /var/www/web it shows cp: ommiting directory 'web' what is this, why dont it copy? :(
[03:06] <AlexC_> Hey,
[03:06] <Gosha> .. what is the PID thing
[03:06] <stefg> QwertyM: cp -R /web ....
[03:06] <AlexC_> I have a problem with Gnome themeing. My GTK Controls are no longer working correctly. If I change theme they always stay the same style
[03:07] <Gosha> !pid
[03:07] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pid - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:07] <gouki> It's a unique identifier for a running application (PID)
[03:07] <QwertyM> stefg, oh ok
[03:07] <AlexC_> Last thing I did was install kubuntu-desktop, which I have now removed - and since then it's mesed the GTK Controls up
[03:07] <Rookie_> Gosha - PID = Process ID
[03:08] <akerr0r> which install method should i use for the greatest control over grub?
[03:08] <jrib> AlexC_: see if gtk2-engines-gtk-qt is installed and remove it
[03:08] <stefg> AlexC_: sudo apt-get install --reinstall ubuntu-desktop
[03:09] <jazzrocker> how do i install the source for a given package?
[03:09] <stefg> AlexC_: or maybe just sudo dpkg-reconfigure ubuntu-desktop
[03:09] <jazzrocker> e.g. telnet
[03:09] <DrLabel> other question at nvidia-settings shows --> Bus Type: PCI Express 1X ; is this correct
[03:09] <jazzrocker> apt-get install telnet-src "doesn't work"
[03:09] <AlexC_> stefg: ok I'll try them now. jrib nah it's not installed.
[03:09] <jazzrocker> "couldn't find package telnet-src"
[03:09] <stefg> apt | jazzrocker
[03:09] <stefg> !apt | jazzrocker
[03:09] <ubotu> jazzrocker: APT is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto - Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)
[03:10] <qmf> *** Please install gmodule-2.0 (atleast version 2.6.0) < i cant seem to find what package i need to get to install gmodule
[03:10] <stefg> jazzrocker: apt-src
[03:10] <jrib> jazzrocker: apt-get source package_name
[03:11] <jazzrocker> ok, so who's lying :)
[03:11] <DrLabel> first who can i force Ubuntu 6.10 to use generic kernel because we always want to use 386
[03:11] <jbs> hi all
[03:11] <DrLabel> other question at nvidia-settings shows --> Bus Type: PCI Express 1X ; is this correct
[03:11] <DrLabel> ???
[03:11] <DrLabel> help plsssssssssssssssssss
[03:11] <jazzrocker> ok, and where do sources get installed by default?
[03:12] <stefg> !enter | DrLabel
[03:12] <ubotu> DrLabel: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[03:12] <frogzoo> DrLabel: I don't understand - edgy has just one 32bit generic kernel
[03:12] <jrib> jazzrocker: current working directory
[03:12] <sod75> DrLabel: check /boot/grub/menu.list
[03:12] <DrLabel> oki for the kernel and for the VGA
[03:14] <thePuck> are the repos being really slow for anyone else?
[03:14] <DrLabel> and who do i select generic ???
[03:14] <frogzoo> thePuck: the au repos are nice & fasty
[03:15] <DrLabel> we have 386 at first than 386 recovery than generic
[03:15] <ken__> frogzoo: Are you the same one that talked to me?
[03:15] <frogzoo> thePuck: however, have you seen the list of latest updates?
[03:15] <frogzoo> ken__: if you're a richards, then yes
[03:16] <ken__> frogzoo: I dont know what you mean, but the advice on commenting out usepeerdns worked beautifully
[03:16] <HiDeo> kikoolol
[03:16] <ken__> frogzoo, Now are you the same one?
[03:16] <ken__> frogzoo,
[03:17] <frogzoo> ken__: oh, Thomson fair enough - yes that was me earlier
[03:17] <AlexC_> stefg: nope, reconfigure didn't work either
[03:17] <AlexC_> stefg: it's like it's stuck on Clearlooks,
[03:17] <ken__> frogzoo: OK, once again thank you so much. It really worked and now Ubuntu is up and running again. I wish that no time in the ever will i have to see the dreaded logo of XP booting up on my precious computer
[03:17] <dllh> to answer my own question from earlier about finding sources, you just do "apt-get source <package>"
[03:18] <ken__> frogzoo, *future
[03:18] <DrLabel> go test be right back
[03:18] <frogzoo> k ken, glad that helped :)
[03:19] <ken__> frogzoo: Ok it is this spirit that keeps the community alive, thank you so much and aspire to one day have enough knowledge to help unsuspecting strangers lurking at the IRC
[03:19] <ken__> frogzoo, Goody bye and have a nice day
[03:19] <ken__> And to all those people out there, Love, Ken
[03:19] <forngren> where does chkrootkit install on ubuntu?
[03:19] <frogzoo> forngren: dpkg -L chkrootkit
[03:19] <stefg> AlexC_: then try to deinstall the offending package first. ubuntu-desktop will reinstall it anyways
[03:20] <forngren> frogzoo: thanks =)
[03:20] <AlexC_> stefg: I don't know what the offending packages are,
[03:21] <stefg> AlexC_: what does apt-get -f install give?
[03:22] <AlexC_> stefg: 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[03:22] <jrib> dllh: there's probably a better way.  What are you compiling?
[03:22] <soon> Howdy folks .. at #ubuntu-dk we've been trying to get my wifi going, but so far without any luck ... any wifi gurus care to help? In brief: IBM T60 with Atheros 5212 card, madwifi is in kernel (as far as I can tell) and wirelesstools tells me, the card can 'see' all three local routers - alas connceting is VERY sporadic - sometimes I can conncet, sometimes not, and I get dropped again quickly. Im on kubuntu 6.10 but have installed
[03:22] <soon> NetworkManager. I'm just about ready to go back to Gentoo :-)
[03:23] <dllh> jrib, I'm just trying to get a perl module Apache::Constants to compile through CPAN, and it's asking for the source dir
[03:23] <stefg> AlexC_: ok, so apt looks 'unbroken'... what error do you get with clearlooks?
[03:23] <dllh> So I got the source and am now compiling (but not installing) apache
[03:23] <dllh> And I'll feed it that source dir and cross my fingers that it's good enough
[03:24] <jrib> dllh: you can usually just install the corresponding -dev package.  So apache-dev for Apache and whatever it is for apache2 if you are using that
[03:24] <dllh> ah, cool
[03:25] <AlexC_> stefg: I get no error, just I can't change theme. I can change Metacity theme fine, but GTK theme is stuck on what seems to be Clearlooks
[03:25] <dllh> sadly, the perl module wants apache 1.3 :(
[03:26] <stefg> AlexC_: type 'gnome-settings-daemon &' to a term and see if that changes something
[03:26] <AlexC_> stefg: You can only run one xsettings manager at a time; exiting
[03:27] <DrLabel> back the kernel prob is good know rks for your help
[03:27] <stefg> AlexC_: ok, so the daemon is running.... hmmm...
[03:27] <AlexC_> stefg: seems like KDE messed it up
[03:27] <jbs> somebody use XGL?
[03:27] <ziggy> hi all, I have a weird problem, since today, apt-get crashes on startup, the same for adept, so I'm a bit stuck here ...
[03:27] <DrLabel> Know the Vga prob is reporting that is using PCIE 1X is this a bug our a miss configuration ???
[03:28] <jbs> hi ziggy
[03:28] <ziggy> hi jbs
[03:28] <stefg> AlexC_ have you install qt-gtk, when you were running KDE?... that might have left a now broken setting to use qt widgets instead of gtk ones
[03:29] <AlexC_> stefg: honestly no idea - I can't remember manually installing it
[03:29] <wy> I guess the upgrade corrupted my language packages so that the characters look weird. What should I do to reinstall the languages part?
[03:29] <flux_> I consequently get the following errormessage from Kile when I try to compile: "[LaTeX]  test4.tex => test4.dvi (latex), [LaTeX]  finished with exit status 127, Cannot open log file; did you run LaTeX?"  I have installed TexLive and all the commands work from console. Does anyone know what to do?
[03:30] <stefg> AlexC_: create a new user and see if the fresh user-account has the same problem
[03:31] <Ropechoborra> How can i protect myself against a botnet attack
[03:32] <AlexC_> stefg: is I press ctrl+alt+F3 for example, I can login to that can't I
[03:32] <stefg> Ropechoborra: unplug your net-cable
[03:32] <AlexC_> stefg: and sitll be logged in on this account?
[03:32] <Ropechoborra> lol
[03:32] <Ropechoborra> :P
[03:32] <Ropechoborra> stefg and how does the big companies do it?
[03:32] <KomiaPoika> stefg: lol
[03:32] <KomiaPoika> Ropechoborra: with a iptables firewall
[03:33] <sirk> is there any fonero here?
[03:33] <sirk> someone who has a FON hotspot I mean
[03:33] <stefg> Ropechoborra: the big companies pay a security team (and the hackers which managed to intrude anyway, to keep the secrets)
[03:34] <DrLabel> nvidia-settings is reporting that is using PCIE 1X is this a bug our a miss configuration ???
[03:34] <dcordes_> my auth.log will not update when i login local oder via ssh. what can be the reason for that and how can i solve this issue?
[03:34] <smithw> Is someone also having troubles with the update of the python_uno package for Ubuntu edgy?
[03:34] <AlexC_> stefg: ok I just logged in to the other account and that one works perfectly fine.
[03:34] <akerr0r> i think my grub problems are due to not mounting a /boot partition.. how big does that one need to be?
[03:34] <stefg> AlexC_: so your user settings are borked...
[03:35] <AlexC_> stefg: damm that KDE! lol
[03:35] <stefg> i think it's the gtk ./. qt thing...
[03:35] <AlexC_> yeah must be some conflic going on somewhere
[03:35] <AlexC_> s/conflic/conflict
[03:36] <L33TrDaN1> hello
[03:36] <cata> hello
[03:36] <AlexC_> hello there,
[03:36] <naelphin> i'm looking for a screen magnifier like XP's. What is a recomended one for ubuntu?
[03:36] <wbadger> hello people can someone tell me what does ubuntu<number> mean in names of packages?
[03:36] <L33TrDaN1> I've got a new dhcp set up, and some boxes that are supposed to have statis ip's are picking up dhcp addresses
[03:36] <AlexC_> naelphin: I know Beryl/compiz has one
[03:37] <L33TrDaN1> bah, static ips.
[03:37] <flux_> I consequently get the following errormessage from Kile when I try to compile: "[LaTeX]  test4.tex => test4.dvi (latex), [LaTeX]  finished with exit status 127, Cannot open log file; did you run LaTeX?"  I have installed TexLive and all the commands work from console. I can compile documents from there. Does anyone know what to do?
[03:37] <ziggy> what file contains the list of installed packages ?
[03:37] <AlexC_> stefg: so how would I go about getting my current user settings back to normal?
[03:37] <naelphin> is there one for plain x?
[03:37] <L33TrDaN1> my eth0 is configured in my /etc/network/interfaces file as static, but 5 to 10 minutes after i turn the interface up, it uses an ip from the dhcp server
[03:37] <AlexC_> naelphin: no idea, sorry
[03:38] <ziggy> apt-get crashes on startup on a function "strlen", maybe my list of package has been damaged, I'd like to fix it
[03:38] <stefg> AlexC_: unfortunately, i can't tell that from this side of the wire...
[03:38] <wbadger> naelphin, how about this http://magnifier.sourceforge.net/
[03:38] <wy> anyone can help me with a display problem? I wonder how can I put on a screenshot?
[03:38] <akerr0r> graphics > KSnapshot
[03:38] <AlexC_> stefg: ok, is there any easy way to migrate to a new user?
[03:38] <akerr0r> upload to imageshack.us
[03:39] <naelphin> wbadger: that doesn't have a deb, how do i install?
[03:39] <wy> akerr0r: Thanks!
[03:39] <akerr0r> wy: np
[03:39] <stefg> AlexC_: just copy all the settings (which you're sure that they are good) over to the new account and chown them to the new user
[03:40] <akerr0r> i'm having trouble getting grub to load.. wiped out my windows install on my sata drive. ubuntu install goes fine, grub says it's installed to hd0, but when i reboot it won't load the OS
[03:40] <wy> akerr0r: Thanks!
[03:40] <frogzoo> L33TrDaN1: I don't think that's eth0 that's doing that...
[03:40] <stefg> !grub
[03:40] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[03:40] <wbadger> naelphin, actually I just opened up synaptic and found gnome-mag for gnome and kmag for KDE
[03:41] <akerr0r> stefg: tried that, can't get the iso to download onto this liveCD desktop/homedir
[03:41] <akerr0r> and windows was wiped before i installed ubuntu
[03:42] <stefg> akerr0r: does grub show an error number.. #17 is very popular...
[03:42] <AlexC_> stefg: actually would a better idea to be copy all themeing files from the new users to my old one?
[03:42] <L33TrDaNu> my ip switched... did anyone have any ideas to my problem with the dhcp overwriting my static ip?
[03:42] <jrib> how can I disable bug-buddy from catching crashes without uninstalling it?
[03:42] <wy> http://img225.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshotrl2.png
[03:42] <akerr0r> stefg: yes i was able to get that -once- .. my first install attempt
[03:42] <wy> My screenshot. All chinese characters are gone in the font selector and right mouse menus
[03:43] <Zaggynl> rofl
[03:43] <Zaggynl> sars?
[03:43] <stefg> akerr0r: grub is confused what your (hd0) actually is... see the grub docs on that, there's a chapter on how to deal with swapping device-numbers
[03:44] <akerr0r> stefg: is there a way to set it correctly during setup?
[03:44] <user-land> Hello, is there a way to see the KDE systray in Ubuntu ?
[03:44] <wbadger> naelphin, so you only need to open a terminal and write either magnifier (gnome) or kmag (KDE)
[03:45] <akerr0r> user-land: you'd have to install KDE.. and someone was just here having issues after doing so..
[03:45] <naelphin> ** ERROR **: Error registering magnifier server.
[03:45] <naelphin> yay
[03:45] <AnAnt> how can I configure bind to look up *.mycompany.com via a certain IP address ?
[03:45] <QwertyM> user-land, yeah, you will need KDE then, but what of the systray do you actually need? :)
[03:45] <iturk> hi my friends i am trying to run a script (using sh ./run) with some simple commands like cd blabla !! i am getting ./run: ./run: cannot execute binary file !! which permission should i give to the file in order to be able to execute it ??
[03:46] <stefg> akerr0r: you can do that from a grub-prompt before fist boot: find /boot/grub/stage1 ... root(hd {whatever grub found}) ... setup (hd0)..
[03:46] <malt> hello, i did some restart X command other day, and now my ubuntu res size is only like 800
[03:46] <malt> how can i make it 1024 again?
[03:46] <akerr0r> stefg: but my problem seems to be that it's not even seeing grub at all
[03:46] <stefg> !fixres
[03:46] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type "sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart" in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[03:46] <malt> I tryed display options, and it don't give me the 1024 choice ;/
[03:46] <wy> Can anyone help me with this problem? I guess I need to reinstall the right hand menus for gnome. But I don't know the package name of it.
[03:47] <jolt> Any ideas when thell be a backport of the new firefox to edgy?
[03:47] <user-land> thanks akerr0r and qwertym, i need it for the download manager kget and apparently in gnome it is called notification area applet in the panel :-)
[03:48] <akerr0r> stefg: i have my bios set to boot specifically from my SATA drive. should i change it to boot from the first IDE drive instead? (is that the 'hd0' where grub is being put?)
[03:48] <iturk> malt: edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf and change in modes to 1024x768 !!
[03:48] <QwertyM> user-land, for Gnome you can try GWGet as a front end for Wget :)
[03:48] <QwertyM> or maybe Downloader for X
[03:49] <AnAnt> how can I configure bind to look up *.mycompany.com via a certain IP address ?
[03:49] <stefg> akerr0r: so what's the situation? You get a grub-error? Grub doesn't get booted? what error do you get?
[03:49] <akerr0r> grub doesn't get booted
[03:49] <user-land> qwertym, do they work for youtube download links ?
[03:49] <akerr0r> it happened once with error #17
[03:51] <QwertyM> user-land, I dunno that, no harm in trying :)
[03:51] <user-land> thanks :-)
[03:52] <akerr0r> stefg: grub isn't booting at all. it happened once (and i got error 17) when i set the partition it was on (3rd on drive) to Active
[03:52] <stefg> akerr0r: google is full of problem reports with taht... seems a commen problem
[03:53] <akerr0r> stefg: is it because i'm installing to an SATA drive that isn't normally seen as a boot device?
[03:53] <stefg> akerr0r: exactly
[03:53] <stefg> http://grub.enbug.org/FrontPage ... have fun
[03:55] <Enverex> How do you search for packages from the command line?
[03:55] <akerr0r> stefg: does the text/oem installer give me more control over the grub installation than the gui install?
[03:55] <stefg> akerr0r: yes
[03:55] <akerr0r> stefg: what's the difference between the two? (text/oem)
[03:55] <am> help
[03:56] <ubinsp> bonjour hello
[03:56] <stefg> Desktop is a Live-CD with dumbed-down install-options... alternate is the proven debian textmode installer
[03:57] <akerr0r> stefg: so i should be able to set the correct grub options from the text installer..
[03:57] <ubinsp> I want to install gnomemeeting 1.2.3 from Debian testing on Ubuntu 6.10. How can I do it? The problem is dependencies
[03:57] <Enverex> Am I muted in here or something? bleh
[03:57] <stefg> akerr0r: yes
[03:57] <akerr0r> stefg: excellent. i'll try that.
[03:59] <rohan> is it safe to delete the diagnostic partition in a new laptop ?
[03:59] <rohan> acer has made hda1 as some diagnostic recovery partition ..
[04:00] <Madeye> guys, I'm trying to know my memory type if it's DD or SD, how can i do that
[04:00] <stefg> rohan: better don't touch it... you'll use the ability to set your bios
[04:00] <rohan> stefg: ouch ! thanks a lot for telling me :)
[04:00] <stefg> rohan: better don't touch it... you'll *lose* the ability to set your bios
[04:00] <LjL> use, lose, same thing when the bios is involved
[04:01] <stefg> hehe
[04:01] <rohan> lol
[04:02] <sod75> eviltux:
[04:02] <rohan> also, can i convert a primary partition to encase it within a logical one ?
[04:03] <frogzoo> Madeye: sudo lshw
[04:03] <stefg> rohan: we don't your skills as a sysadmin, so we can't tell :-)
[04:03] <stefg> know
[04:03] <rohan> stefg: well, what would be the way ?
[04:04] <stefg> rohan: gparted can do that for you
[04:04] <rohan> ok
[04:04] <rohan> let me poke
[04:05] <LinTux> How do I install samba in terminal?
[04:06] <TheGateKeeper> apt-get install samba
[04:06] <LinTux> Cheers TheGateKeeper.
[04:06] <TheGateKeeper> np :-)
[04:06] <Madeye> frogzoo, thank you
[04:08] <LinTux> TheGateKeeper: Is there a GUI I can use to configure Samba, if so what command to install it
[04:08] <|rt|> LinTux: SWAT
[04:08] <|rt|> LinTux: it's a web based frontend
[04:09] <LinTux> any good
[04:09] <TheGateKeeper> well I am sure there is a gnome equivalent of System Settings --> Sharring
[04:09] <|rt|> LinTux: It's part of samba and is maintained by the samba team
[04:09] <TheGateKeeper> LinTux: I use KDE
[04:10] <|rt|> LinTux: It's not the best interface but it does a good job with keeping up with the changes in samba
[04:11] <rohan> ubuntu is ultra sensitive to the touchpad ... takes a click, when i touch the touchpad to move the cursor, it takes it as a click
[04:11] <TheGateKeeper> |rt|: doesn't gnome have the equivalent of the KDE's System Settings --> Sharring?
[04:11] <LinTux> how do I access SWAT
[04:12] <|rt|> TheGateKeeper: not sure most of the boxes that I run samba on don't have X
[04:12] <|rt|> TheGateKeeper: and I just configure the shares by hand
[04:12] <LinTux> cheers rt
[04:13] <TheGateKeeper> LinTux: check that gnome doesn't have something under it's system settings (or whatever it uses)
[04:13] <jbutler> hey all... sometimes my network interface is wlan2 and sometimes its wlan3... is there a way to "lock in" a device to an interface?
[04:13] <|rt|> LinTux: it's been a while since I've used SWAT and it wasn't under ubuntu.  First check to see if they have seperated it into it's own package
[04:13] <LIJI> Hello
[04:13] <LIJI> Can someone please help me with Wine? I'm having trubles with it :(
[04:14] <Matsuo> Is there someone here familiar with exim and SMTP auth?  I could use some help setting it up
[04:14] <|rt|> LinTux: then depending on if it's running as a service or behind xinitd you point your browser to http://localhost:8080 I believe
[04:14] <|rt|> or whatever port SWAT runs on
[04:14] <ste> Hi all. Is there something a-la popcon.debian.org in ubuntu?
[04:15] <forngren> Is there an equalent for /bin/mail?
[04:15] <daviey> Hi, for some reason; i have rebooted and lost all sound!!! any ideas how to get i back?
[04:15] <TheGateKeeper> !sound
[04:15] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin
[04:16] <rohan> stefg: would you please point me to the proper option ?
[04:16] <wy> I got the problem. The gnome applets and control panel applications don't switch their language once you choose a language.
[04:16] <LIJI> How can I fully uninstall wine, including settings? I want to reinstall it so it will work this time ;)
[04:16] <Madeye> any idea how to fix this clamav: Depends: libclamav1 (>= 0.90~rc2) but it is not going to be installed
[04:17] <tflande> sudo apt-get remove --purge samba
[04:17] <stefg> rohan: for what? installing gparted?
[04:17] <wy> I think this is a bug. If you choose English to log into your gnome for the first time, add some applets to your panel, and switch to another language, you will get garbaged menus for these applets.
[04:17] <feNNec_> Hi - need tiny help about a sis900 network card who doen't want to work on kubuntu edgy
[04:18] <rohan> stefg: no, using it from the livecd
[04:18] <rohan> to convert the primary hda3 to logical
[04:18] <biotrox> !beryl
[04:18] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-xgl
[04:18] <DJAdmiral> Hi - my friend is having issues with his computer
[04:18] <LIJI> Anyone know how??
[04:19] <stefg> rohan: oh... i don't know if it's actually on the Live-CD. I stay well clear of the Live-CDs and use the alternate ones
[04:19] <DJAdmiral> is there any way I can connect to his bash prompt?
[04:19] <rohan> stefg: ah, ok
[04:19] <rohan> afk.
[04:19] <DJAdmiral> How can I connect to a friend's bash prompt via the internet?
[04:19] <LIJI> ...
[04:20] <Tuli> alguem me pode ajudar a instalar o driver da placa grafico no ubuntu?
[04:20] <stefg> DJAdmiral: by reading about openssh and installing an openssh-server on your friends box
[04:21] <DJAdmiral> stefg: thanks
[04:21] <am> hello
[04:21] <am> i've trouble with usb cam
[04:21] <Tuli> nao consigo instalar o beryl
[04:21] <Tuli> penso k seja por causa da placa grfica...
[04:22] <LjL> !es | tuli
[04:22] <Tuli> ma sou novo no ubuntu no sei como instalar nada
[04:22] <ubotu> tuli: Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[04:22] <LjL> !pt | tuli
[04:22] <ubotu> tuli: Por favor use #ubuntu-br  ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigada.
[04:22] <am> when i start camorama
[04:22] <am> system hangs
[04:22] <finalbeta> Anyone knows a color finder? Something that lets you pick colors from the screen?
[04:22] <LjL> finalbeta: the standard color dialog in KDE ;)
[04:23] <wy>
[04:23] <finalbeta> LjL, and gnome has one where?
[04:23] <LjL> finalbeta: seriously, *every* color dialog in KDE has that possibility, maybe GNOME has the same... try like the color settings in the control panel
[04:23] <LjL> i haven't the slightest idea finalbeta :)
[04:23] <ubinsp> !cmd
[04:23] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about cmd - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:23] <LjL> !cn | wy
[04:23] <ubotu> wy: For Ubuntu help in Chinese  #ubuntu-cn  #ubuntu-tw   #ubuntu-hk
[04:23] <forngren> each time I tries to send a mail with mail it freezes, should I configure it in some way?
[04:24] <tdog> hello everyone.. is there any GUI program that can search a php files in a folders for given String of Texts ??????
[04:24] <wy> LjL: I'm testing my fonts. It seems it's not using SimSun if I select "serif"
[04:24] <mc44> finalbeta: doesnt the gimp have one?
[04:25] <PriceChild> wy, please test in a different channel
[04:25] <LjL> wy: for that matter, with DejaVu Sans three out of those 9 characters in the !cn text show up as dots :)
[04:25] <Tuli> no #ubuntu-pt ninguem responde...
[04:25] <mc44> LjL: WFM :)
[04:25] <jrib> Tuli: e #ubuntu-br?
[04:25] <Tuli> tentar...
[04:25] <wy> PriceChild: OK. no more tests
[04:25] <heydabop> Could someone help me?
[04:25] <buzzed> i have installed 6.10  now what?
[04:26] <PriceChild> !ask | heydabop
[04:26] <ubotu> heydabop: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[04:26] <mc44> LjL: although Im using DejaVu Sans Condesed
[04:26] <IdleOne> buzzed,  now enjoy freedom :)
[04:26] <finalbeta> mc44, from an image. So I can captume the screen, and then pick the color in GIMP. That's one hell of a way not to do it :p
[04:26] <buzzed> what are some next steps
[04:26] <LjL> condensed... yuk, looks terrible, at least with full hinting
[04:26] <slipttees> some brasilian?
[04:26] <LjL> !br
[04:26] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br  ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigada.
[04:26] <mc44> LjL: Im a mascohist
[04:26] <finalbeta> Weird, windows has tons of these tools.
[04:26] <stefg> !easyubuntu | buzzed
[04:26] <ubotu> buzzed: easyubuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ - For help and or discussions about EasyUbuntu please join #easyubuntu
[04:26] <slipttees> http://www.PetitionOnline.com/oeleitor/
[04:27] <LjL> finalbeta, how many does it have that are *installed by default*?
[04:27] <stefg> buzzed: what graphics do you have?
[04:27] <heydabop> When I try to compile something through the terminal it has to use the command gcc, which the terminal doesn't recognize.
[04:27] <LjL> finalbeta, if you're ready to install them yourself, i don't think there will be a problem
[04:27] <jrib> !compiling | heydabop
[04:27] <ubotu> heydabop: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[04:27] <mc44> finalbeta: an apt cache search reveals gcolor2 and kcoloredit
[04:27] <PriceChild> !build-essential | heydabop
[04:27] <buzzed> this was an upgrade from 6.06
[04:27] <heydabop> Ok.
[04:27] <LjL> finalbeta: "apt-cache search color pick" gives enough interesting results here
[04:27] <finalbeta> LjL, i'm trying to find one but can't in synaptic
[04:27] <buzzed> what is automatix?
[04:27] <PriceChild> hmm that command didn't work...
[04:27] <biotrox> hey anybody
[04:27] <LjL> !gcolor2 | finalbeta
[04:27] <ubotu> gcolor2: Simple GTK2 color selector and picker. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.4-2 (edgy), package size 23 kB, installed size 136 kB
[04:28] <LjL> !automatix | buzzed
[04:28] <ubotu> buzzed: automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[04:28] <biotrox> i'm using ubuntu 6.10
[04:28] <finalbeta> thnx
[04:28] <biotrox> and trying to install ATI driver
[04:28] <forngren> do I need sendmail or simular to make mail -s work?
[04:28] <biotrox> from the ATI
[04:28] <biotrox> website
[04:28] <PriceChild> biotrox, what's your question?
[04:28] <biotrox> can't seem to get it install
[04:28] <LjL> Ubotu, tell biotrox about ati | biotrox, see the private message from Ubotu
[04:28] <PriceChild> ah
[04:28] <heydabop> Does the command sudo apt-get install build-essential has to use internet?
[04:28] <PriceChild> !ati | biotrox
[04:28] <ubotu> biotrox: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[04:28] <LjL> heydabop: i don't think, it should be all on the CD
[04:28] <heydabop> Ok.
[04:28] <LjL> assuming your CD is in sources.list that is
[04:29] <heydabop> Ok.
[04:29] <stefg> buzzed: automatix and easyubuntu serve the same purpose.. adding the 'most wanted' modifications. but automatix is more troublesome than easyubuntu, as i hear
[04:29] <biotrox> i had download the driver for my ubuntu from the ATI website
[04:29] <heydabop> I'll go try it, thanks for your help.
[04:29] <Tuli> no #ubuntu-br tb no consigo ajuda...:\
[04:29] <tdog> hello everyone.. is there any GUI program that can search a php files in a folders for given String of Texts ??????
[04:29] <PriceChild> biotrox, please follow the instructions ubotu just gave you
[04:29] <biotrox> oke
[04:31] <LjL> Tuli, el problema cual es?
[04:31] <heydabop> I forgot how, but how do you add a CD to the sources list?
[04:31] <LjL> heydabop: apt-cdrom add
[04:31] <LjL> with the CD in
[04:31] <heydabop> K.
[04:31] <heydabop> Thanks
[04:31] <segfault_> tdog, not sure about a gui prog but grp can do that from cmd line
[04:31] <xmoogle> hiya, um, if i installed ubuntu 5.10 on a computer, would it be easy to upgrade it post-install to the latest version?
[04:32] <PriceChild> !upgrade | xmoogle
[04:32] <manmadha> how to Build flash programs in linux..?I Just want to know the flash builder for linux
[04:32] <tdog> thanks
[04:32] <ubotu> xmoogle: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[04:32] <segfault_> tdog, sry grp = grep
[04:32] <manmadha> any one help me..?
[04:32] <tdog> thanks :)
[04:32] <xmoogle> ty PriceChild :)
[04:32] <LjL> Tuli, que placa grafica tienes? what graphics card do you have?
[04:32] <PriceChild> !anyone | manmadha
[04:32] <ubotu> manmadha: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[04:32] <stefg> xmoogle: upgrading is only supported in +1 steps. This means to go Breezy -> Dapper -> Edgy
[04:32] <tdog> can grep also replace searched text with other text ??
[04:33] <mc44> tdog: use sed for that
[04:33] <LjL> tdog: no, you use sed for that
[04:33] <manmadha> PriceChild, hee if u know my prob ...try to solve it
[04:33] <buzzed> wow, i got upgraded to eclipse 3.2 :)
[04:33] <manmadha> or just piss me off
[04:33] <xmoogle> otherwise i'd download and burn the newest
[04:33] <tdog> thanks guys.. linux ROOOOOOOOOOOOOOOCKSSSSSSSSSS
[04:33] <PriceChild> manmadha, please ask your questoin
[04:33] <stefg> xmoogle: my advice would be: install dapper, and keep that
[04:33] <manmadha> is there any flash builder
[04:34] <LjL> PriceChild, did ;) i think the answer is "there is none"
[04:34] <fenrig> !ati
[04:34] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[04:34] <PriceChild> manmadha, sorry i didn't see the question
[04:34] <xmoogle> i don't have dapper on a cd, and like i said my ISP is giving *terrible* bandwidth at the moment..otherwise i would download and burn it
[04:35] <manmadha> PriceChild, is there any flash builder (like html builder) in linux?
[04:35] <stefg> xmoogle: if you have 4-6 weks of patience shipit will send you a copy for free
[04:35] <valle> I am trying to install something using gcc. I make an apt-get install build-essentials
[04:35] <PriceChild> manmadha, not that we know of sorry
[04:35] <LjL> there's barely a flash *player*...
[04:35] <PriceChild> manmadha, have you googled it perhaps?
[04:35] <manmadha> ok no prob
[04:35] <manmadha> yaa
[04:35] <xmoogle> stefg, actually i may download and burn it at my friend's place :)
[04:36] <valle> but now when I make a ./configure it says "You don't seem to have the curses headers installed". What do I need to download
[04:36] <stefg> xmoogle: go for the 'alternate' install
[04:36] <LjL> valle: libncurses5-dev
[04:36] <valle> thanks
[04:36] <xmoogle> "alternate", stefg?
[04:36] <akerr0r> stefg: ran text install, didn't have extra control over grub.. it auto-installed with hd0 again. changed my bios to boot from the first IDE drive, and now i get GRUB error #17.. looking that up on grub's site atm :|
[04:36] <LjL> !alternate
[04:36] <ubotu> The Alternate CD (available as of Dapper) is the classical text-mode installation CD. Use it if you wish to upgrade via CD, or for an "expert" mode install. For normal installs, use the Desktop CD, which is also a "Live" CD.
[04:36] <mc44> !mtasc
[04:36] <ubotu> mtasc: ActionScript 2 to Flash (SWF) compiler. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.12-2 (edgy), package size 230 kB, installed size 960 kB
[04:37] <stefg> !install | xmoogle
[04:37] <ubotu> xmoogle: Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues
[04:37] <LjL> hmm... and how do you create actionscript? :=)
[04:37] <mc44> LjL: details. details,,,
[04:38] <linda777> I have a question about my xorg settings. To get my mouse wheel to work, I can use the "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" command, and set it to three button mouse emulation. However, the setting doesn't "stick."
[04:38] <linda777> I lose the wheel function, then have to go through all of that again to get it back. Any suggestions?
[04:38] <killermach> I have a firewire harddrive enclosure, but I don't see where to access the drive in ubuntu?  Do I have to configure 1394 or the HD somewhere??
[04:43] <Undersound> Hi I am new to Ubuntu. I try to sudo in my terminal. when prompted it asked me for password. I type my password and nothing happens. Do anyone know how to solve it?
[04:44] <diskus> Undersound: sudo -i if you want to have normal shell with root access
[04:44] <jrib> how can I disable bug-buddy from catching crashes without uninstalling it?
[04:44] <naylor> dudes, got a major problem: http://pastebin.ca/287546   can anyone please help me out with these broken dependancies or whatever they are
[04:44] <ken__> People, i wish to install gparted, when i write that in add/remove no program is found?!!! What is going on?
[04:45] <alverich> hola
[04:45] <alverich> tgengo un consulta
[04:45] <alverich> how to make a repository of ubuntu
[04:46] <mc44> !falcon | alverich
[04:46] <LjL> alverich: *create* a repository for yourself, or *add* a repository?
[04:46] <ubotu> falcon: Falcon repository creator. In component extras, is optional. Version 1.5.4-0ubuntu2 (edgy-seveas), package size 175 kB, installed size 508 kB
[04:46] <alverich> i am a chilean people and i like make a repository
[04:46] <cld2> any idea why the exact same install of ubuntu/gnome with nothing done to them but updates would cause one gnome panel to not stay where/how I put it and the other to do exactly as I say? thanks.
[04:46] <LjL> then look at the above
[04:46] <LjL> !seveas | alverich
[04:46] <ubotu> alverich: Seveas has a popular 3rd party repository for several packages. More info (and mirrors) on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[04:46] <ctford> ken: you mean when you search in synaptic you can't find gparted?
[04:47] <LjL> alverich: also, if you do "apt-cache search apt reposit", i think you'll find a few other possibilities
[04:48] <mc44> ken__: do "sudo apt-get install gparted" in the terminal
[04:48] <akerr0r> how can i modify grub's config from the liveCD?
[04:48] <ken__> mc44: Thank you
[04:48] <alverich> LjL i like create a other repositori of ubuntu in my conuntry, wiyh the universe multiverse  main an restric, but i dont know where i need
[04:48] <cld2> akerr0r: mount your /boot dir on say /tmp/boot and then edit the grub.conf, er menu.lst
[04:49] <akerr0r> what's the liveCD password to su?
[04:49] <cld2> should be no password
[04:49] <cld2> just su -
[04:49] <cld2> oh
[04:49] <cld2> no
[04:49] <cld2> do this
[04:49] <cld2> sudo bash
[04:49] <LjL> !enter
[04:49] <ubotu> Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[04:49] <cld2> LjL: sorry, its early brain is not started fully.
[04:49] <alverich> LjL: y need know the recuairements o (requerimientos ) of hardware for this work
[04:49] <ken__> a
[04:50] <akerr0r> cld2: and /boot would be located where?
[04:50] <LjL> alverich: espera un minudo, quieres crear un sitio con *todos* los paquetes de ubuntu? acuerdate che son muchos... if you want to create a site with all the ubuntu packages, keep in mind they're a lot
[04:50] <cld2> akerr0r: most likely the first partition of your first device
[04:50] <tybalt> how do I set up my server 6.10 install to print to a networked printer (read: not a print server, but I want to print from the server)
[04:50] <ken__> I wish to know what people using GNOME recommend for downloading torrents and IRC. Can some of you please chime in? That would really help
[04:50] <LjL> alverich: i think like 30Gb or so
[04:51] <cld2> akerr0r: type fdisk -l
[04:51] <toad__> is there a script I can use to convert a bunch of latin-1 encoded html pages to utf8?
[04:51] <mc44> ken__: xchat for irc
[04:51] <mc44> !torrent | ken__
[04:51] <ubotu> ken__: Torrent clients: Azureus (Java), BitTornado (Shell with python front-end), KTorrent (KDE/Qt)  -  Bittorent FAQ: http://www.bittorrent.com/FAQ.html
[04:51] <LjL> !uni2ascii | toad__
[04:51] <ubotu> uni2ascii: convert UTF-8 into 7-bit ASCII and vice versa. In component universe, is optional. Version 3.9-1 (edgy), package size 35 kB, installed size 128 kB
[04:51] <alverich> LjL: yes y need create this but i need know the recuairements for this
[04:51] <andrej_> hello can someone pls help me to configure samba on ubuntu the problem i got 2 networkcards on my pc
[04:51] <LjL> !tcs | toad__
[04:51] <ubotu> tcs: character set translator. In component universe, is optional. Version 1-10 (edgy), package size 132 kB, installed size 352 kB
[04:52] <akerr0r> cld2: mount /dev/sda1 /tmp/boot   ->   'mount point /tmp/boot does not exist'
[04:52] <toad__> thanks
[04:52] <ken__> ok
[04:52] <cld2> akerr0r: you have to do mkdir /tmp/boot first
[04:52] <akerr0r> ah
[04:52] <naylor> hello if anyone can please help me out, i had a power cut while updated computer and now i get this error: http://pastebin.ca/287546
[04:53] <LjL> alverich: i think all you really need is a *lot* of bandwidth, quite a bit of disk space, and "wget"
[04:53] <y3it221_klce> how to create home wireless network connection, between my laptop and another laptop??
[04:53] <alverich> yes
[04:53] <tybalt> y3it221_klce, use what's called "ad-hoc" networking
[04:54] <alverich> y have the banwidth
[04:54] <akerr0r> cld2: so i should only need to change /boot/grub/device.map 's first line hd0 to the device where root is located?
[04:54] <alverich> and place but i need the information abou
[04:54] <sleepytom> Does anybody have a second to help me with Sound Juicer?
[04:54] <alverich> the storage
[04:54] <andrej_> can pls somebody tell me how i config samba to use networkcard 2 as default
[04:54] <alverich> and hardwaqrew requerimientos
[04:54] <IRCMonkey> aa
[04:54] <LjL> alverich: if you just want to mirror the normal Ubuntu repos, i think you can just use "wget --mirror", no need for anything fancy
[04:54] <Lynx> How can I make Kubuntu installer install the system on a reiserfs partition? I select the mount point as "/" for the partition, and all what it does is writing "No root file system selected"
[04:54] <LjL> alverich: any decent computer will do
[04:55] <IRCMonkey> IRCMonkey: aa
[04:55] <mc44> IRCMonkey: no need to talk to yourself :)
[04:55] <IRCMonkey> mc44: Thats what linux has done to me :)
[04:55] <ken__> :)
[04:55] <LjL> !pm | alverich, other people here will certainly know things i don't
[04:55] <ubotu> alverich, other people here will certainly know things i don't: Please ask your questions in the channel so that other people can also benefit. Please don't PM a user in the channel without asking first.
[04:56] <y3it221_klce> tybalt: can i have some URLs or can i use DHCP directly
[04:56] <mc44> LjL: na, you're omniscient :)
[04:56] <IRCMonkey> ken_: aaa
[04:56] <andrej_> i  need help plssss help me :(
[04:56] <sunnz2> Just a quick question.
[04:56] <cld2> akerr0r: I dont know what your problem is.
[04:57] <alverich> where y find the information about
[04:57] <Lynx> How can I make Kubuntu installer install the system on a reiserfs partition? I select the mount point as "/" for the partition, and all what it does is writing "No root file system selected"
[04:57] <Madeye> What is the GTK+ development package and runtime? trying to install xfprot
[04:57] <LjL> !libgtk2.0-dev
[04:57] <ubotu> libgtk2.0-dev: Development files for the GTK+ library. In component main, is optional. Version 2.10.6-0ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 2511 kB, installed size 9096 kB
[04:57] <akerr0r> cld2: grub keeps trying to boot from hd0, which isn't where ubuntu is installed
[04:57] <ziggy> is that normal that my cache for apt  has grown to 400Mo (in /var/cache/apt ) ?
[04:57] <ken__> IRCMonkey, aaa
[04:57] <sunnz2> By default installation, does "hibernate" actually turns off the system or just suspend to RAM?
[04:57] <afief> Does anybody else have problems with gtk+ under edgy?
[04:57] <cld2> akerr0r: grub boots from where ever it is installed, regardless of where ubuntu is.
[04:58] <akerr0r> cld2: so i'm guessing i just need to change the hd0 line in grub's device.map to the correct drive
[04:58] <ziggy> sunnz2, hibernate saves on disk, suspend save in ram
[04:58] <sod75> sunnz2: hibernate is suspend to disk, so turn off
[04:58] <cld2> akerr0r: paste your menu.lst and an fdisk -l to a pastebin
[04:58] <ken__> asas
[04:59] <IRCMonkey> ken__: ?
[04:59] <ken__> IRCMonkey, ??
[04:59] <Madeye> LjL, dude, I already got it libgtk2.0-dev is already the newest version. but still getting this error You have to install the Gtk+ development (and runtime?) libraries version 2.4.x or superior.
[04:59] <IRCMonkey> ken__, ??
[04:59] <sunnz2> sod75, cool... the same applies to xubuntu right? (And I don't mean the command "hibernate", but the hiberante 'button'.)
[04:59] <mc44> IRCMonkey, ken__ please stop talking to courself
[04:59] <mc44> *yourself
[04:59] <elessar__> helo
[04:59] <tybalt> y3it221_klce, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=226988 is what I found first in google, it's a start; sorry but you'll have to do some reading on this one.
[04:59] <IRCMonkey> a
[04:59] <ken__> a
[05:00] <afief> Anybody here who tried to compile GTK+ apps under Edgy?
[05:00] <tdog> need decoder for MP3 files, any suggestion ?????? thanks
[05:00] <elessar__> can anybody help me - I need to see movie with subtitles - what player should I use for this?
[05:00] <andrej_> guys pls i dont know what to do ive got any option to solve the problem (i think :) ) but i cant
[05:00] <IRCMonkey> ken__: Dont you understand he told you to stop spamming the channel?
[05:00] <mc44> !mp3 | tdog
[05:00] <ubotu> tdog: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[05:00] <LjL> Madeye, link to the tarball you're trying to compile please
[05:00] <ken__> IRCArch: So now i gottu listen to some dumbass moron about my decorum
[05:00] <sleepytom> !mp3
[05:00] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[05:01] <afief> elessar__: mplayer or xine are great
[05:01] <Madeye> LjL, http://web.tiscali.it/sharp/xfprot/xfprot-1.17.tar.gz
[05:01] <ken__> IRCMonkey, that was to you
[05:01] <elessar__> thanks afief
[05:01] <IRCMonkey> ken__, uh ya, who d'ya think you are talking to?
[05:01] <akerr0r> cld2: fdisk -- http://pastebin.ca/287569
[05:01] <FRET> Hey all
[05:01] <akerr0r> cld2: menu.lst -- http://pastebin.ca/287570
[05:01] <IRCMonkey> s
[05:01] <andrej_> <---- NewB searches for help
[05:01] <ken__> s
[05:02] <psyoptik> if I enter a command into crontab that requires sudo if I use it in bash, will it run without requiring any input from me?
[05:02] <LjL> aagh
[05:02] <ken__> :)
[05:02] <malt> Also, where do i go in ubuntu to choose max speed of the ethernet card? I know windows is like in view network connection and configure, and like half duplex, or full duplex.
[05:02] <buzzed> so getting an error with easyubunutu... says i need to only use one update manager , though only one is open...
[05:02] <dllh> psyoptik, I would think it would fail in cron
[05:03] <dllh> psyoptik, in that case, I'd probably sudo su and put it in root's cron
[05:03] <ken__> LjL: nice one, i was trying to compare xchat and chatZilla and their highlight mechanisms
[05:03] <psyoptik> dllh, ok thanks
[05:03] <ken__> LjL: sorry for spamming a wonderful community
[05:03] <Madeye> LjL, not gonna work ?
[05:03] <dllh> psyoptik, not sure if that's a best practice for ubuntu; I'm new here and accustomed to other distros
[05:04] <buzzed> "Only one software management tool is allowed to run at the same time"
[05:04] <LjL> Madeye, a second sorry
[05:04] <psyoptik> dllh, thats ok. I'm just trying to use a backup script, and I don't know why it wouldn't be the best practice
[05:05] <dllh> psyoptik, I agree :)
[05:05] <mc44> buzzed: do you have synaptic or Add/Remove progrmas open?
[05:05] <buzzed> no
[05:05] <Madeye> LjL, yeah sure :-) Thanks for your time dude
[05:05] <ParaDoX34690> hey, anyone here familiar with ndiswrapper when used with a Linksys WUSB54G network adapter?
[05:05] <LjL> Madeye, that's f-prot?
[05:05] <Madeye> LjL, no it's just the GTK interface of f-prot
[05:05] <LjL> i see
[05:06] <alverich> people,  y need talk with anything about repository , what people or person know about this
[05:06] <alverich> for put the ofisial repository in my university
[05:06] <mc44> buzzed: check in System -> Administration -> System Monitor to make sure they are not running
[05:07] <LjL> Madeye, i think that needs gtk 1.2 -- try installing libgtk1.2-dev
[05:08] <Madeye> LjL, ok lemme try
[05:08] <Madeye> LjL, just the same
[05:08] <anapivirtua_> Hello world
[05:09] <jamd> hola a todo el mundo
[05:09] <naylor> please can anyone help me with some errors, i was updating the system and their was a powercut and it's messed it up a bit
[05:10] <LjL> Madeye: well, actually it gives one less error
[05:10] <naylor> here's a pastebin of my errors: http://pastebin.ca/287546
[05:10] <LjL> anyway i'd say that configure script is quite broken
[05:10] <Madeye> hmm LjL
[05:10] <Madeye> LjL, Ok, do you recommend any other antivirus for linux with GUI ?
[05:11] <ken1> I got a problem! I was in System>administration>services, and clicked one of the services of. The services dialog box quit unexpectedly. Now when i open "services-admin" at the CLI or navigate to it through the GUI i get a message "The configuration could not be loaded
[05:11] <ken1> You are not allowed to access the system configuration." What should i do?
[05:11] <afief> Where does edgy save the library files? i can't compile anything
[05:11] <LjL> Madeye: well, you mean antivirus for linux *that check for Windows viruses*, i suppose?
[05:11] <ParaDoX34690> Naylor...
[05:11] <ParaDoX34690> try dpkg --configure -a
[05:11] <mc44> ken1: run gksudo services-admin
[05:11] <LjL> !elaborate | afief
[05:11] <ubotu> afief: Please elaborate, your question or issue may not seem clear or detailed enough for people to help you. Please give more detailed information, errors, steps, and possibly configuration files (use the !pastebin to avoid flooding the channel)
[05:11] <Madeye> LjL, I download many files here and I actually have broken my friends PCs by burning DVDs and giving it to them hehe so pathatic windows users
[05:12] <ken1> mc44: same message is flashed."The configuration could not be loaded
 You are not allowed to access the system configuration."
[05:13] <naylor> ParoDoX34690, http://pastebin.ca/287580
[05:13] <ChrisBradley> hello
[05:13] <naylor> ParoDoX34690, it didn't work!
[05:13] <ParaDoX34690> hmmm
[05:13] <afief> LjL: i've tried to compile various programs, from supertux, to a simple gtk hello world to gweled, they all complain about missing libraries which i have installed(so i figure they are saved in some weird path)
[05:13] <ken1> Guys i can no longer access Services. What should i do???
[05:13] <LjL> Madeye, clamav has interfaces for GTK and KDE shipped in the repos... but i don't think it's nearly as good as f-prot as a scanner
[05:14] <ParaDoX34690> yeah, that's about all i had... i'm having issues with setting up a windows wireless card myself... was hoping someone in here could help me out some..
[05:14] <LjL> afief, an example please (besides, supertux is in the repositories, to need to compile :P)
[05:14] <LjL> !pastebin
[05:14] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[05:14] <benkong2> after an upgrade from breezy to edgy all my themes are missing. What should I do?
[05:14] <Madeye> LjL, I've also tried my luck with clamav but got this The following packages have unmet dependencies.
[05:14] <Madeye>   clamav: Depends: libclamav1 (>= 0.90~rc2) but it is not going to be installed
[05:14] <Madeye> E: Broken packages
[05:14] <naylor> hello any help would be appreciated: http://pastebin.ca/287580
[05:14] <benkong2> !missing theme
[05:14] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about missing theme - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:14] <ParaDoX34690> !ndiswrapper
[05:14] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[05:14] <manmadha> !flash editor
[05:14] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about flash editor - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:15] <ken1> I can no longer access Services. I get a message saying "The configuration could not be loaded
 You are not allowed to access the system configuration.". what should i do? please help
[05:15] <manmadha> is there any inbuilt flash editor in linux?
[05:15] <hexion> hello
[05:15] <ParaDoX34690> ken1, have you tried giving yourself root access?
[05:16] <hexion> this is a bit off-topic question.. but how can I join this server with Xchat? (irc://irc.atheme.org/audacious)
[05:16] <kibbled_bits> hello everyone
[05:16] <alverich> holas
[05:16] <kibbled_bits> has anybody here successfully removed Mono?
[05:16] <ken1> ParaDoX34690, I checked off, some of the services in the services dialog box, and now i can no longer open that thing. And yeah "gksudo services-admin" gives the same message. HELP
[05:16] <kibbled_bits> or removed Tomboy from Edgy?
[05:16] <Madeye> Ok, LjL Thank you for your help dude :-) I really appreciate it :-)
[05:16] <kibbled_bits> how would I force a remove, when the ubuntu-desktop depends on it
[05:17] <ken1> I checked off, some of the services in the services dialog box, and now i can no longer open that thing. And yeah "gksudo services-admin" gives the same message. HELP
[05:17] <LjL> !repeat | ken1
[05:17] <ubotu> ken1: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly, if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[05:17] <ken1> :(
[05:17] <richd> !java
[05:17] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository
[05:18] <afief> LjL: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/38234/    I use the SVN version of supertux
[05:18] <manmadha> flex builedr can help mee?
[05:19] <bradley> is there any way to conserve a certain amount of cpu so that the desktop stuff (mouse, windows) doesn't get glitchy at a peak?
[05:19] <Space_> hi
[05:19] <LjL> afief: and i suppose you have libsdl-image1.2-dev installed?
[05:19] <ken1> Someone? :(
[05:19] <LjL> bradley, not easily
[05:19] <AcidStriker> Hi, I install the build-essential, and libncurses5-dev, but I can't do a ./configure. It appear the message "configure:error:ssl.h not fount in"
[05:19] <bradley> LjL, oh.
[05:19] <afief> LjL: that is correct
[05:19] <habeeb> Hello! I want to execute a command in every boot. A terminal command (like xmodmap) _not_ an X one. Where should I add that line? I tried rc.local, but it didnt work :/
[05:19] <Space_> My boss wants to use an ASUS WL500-GP router with OpenWrt as AP and as Client in the same time. Is it possible?
[05:20] <ken1> ohh...please help me if you can. I checked off, some of the services in the services dialog box, and now i can no longer open that thing. And yeah "gksudo services-admin" gives the same message. HELP
[05:20] <bradley> LjL, if someone had mediocre knowledge and the time would you recommend doing it?
[05:21] <un_operateur> how does one play an audio CD in xmms?? I'm stumped and have looked all over in the damn thing <scratches head>
[05:21] <rjg_> Hello
[05:21] <kibbled_bits> does anyone know how to completely remove Mono from Edgy?
[05:21] <AcidStriker> Hi, I install the build-essential, and libncurses5-dev, but I can't do a ./configure. It appear the message "configure:error:ssl.h not fount in"
[05:21] <LjL> ken1, you'll have a chance to ask your question again in 10 minutes
[05:21] <AcidStriker> I also apt-get install openssl but didn't work
[05:21] <JediMaster> hi all, just upgraded from dapper to etch, lots of package problems, but I've managed to sort them all out
[05:22] <mc44> ken1: in the mean time you could try logging out and back in again :)
[05:22] <screechingcat> kibbled_bits: why would you want to do that ?
[05:22] <mc44> ken1: of X I mean
[05:22] <biotrox> in rpm i can do #rpm -ql <Package_name> how do i do this in debian ubuntu?
[05:22] <kibbled_bits> well I'm tired of upgrading it
[05:22] <afief> AcidStriker: i think that's something to do with open ssl, not ncurses
[05:22] <kibbled_bits> I've tried Tomboy and I don't like it
[05:22] <un_operateur> kibbled_bits, search for all the mono packages and uninstall them :) how hard is that -- aptitude search mono | awk '{print $2}'
[05:22] <kibbled_bits> I want to remove it & F-Spot
[05:22] <LjL> bradley, fact is - Linux schedule processes by a priority. you can change that priority for the single processes, so you could probably make *one* process more responsive (at the risk of making everything else slow, if that process is CPU intensive itself), or you can set the CPU intensive process to a lower priority, so that it won't interfer too much
[05:22] <afief> AcidStriker: do you have openssl-dev?
[05:22] <AcidStriker> afief: I already install openssl
[05:22] <rjg_> I'm ruuning beryl 0.2.2, and I want toupdate 1.3. However, I had to disable the beryl feed(under 3rd party feeds) becuse I was getting 404 not found errors, adn then I couldn't update the rest of the system. Can someone help me?
[05:22] <ken5> mc44, that was really funny :))
[05:22] <rjg_> * I mean 0.1.1
[05:23] <kibbled_bits> yes, but it tells me it will uninstall Ubuntu if I do that (basically
[05:23] <LjL> bradley: the commands you want, there, are "nice" and "renice". but you can't just do what you asked easily
[05:23] <ken5> LjL: sorry for evading your ban
[05:23] <JediMaster> anyhow, now for some reason in apache2 the index pages aren't working for php files, it tries to download the file, but works when you go to /index.php, any ideas? (index.php is specified in DirectoryIndex)
[05:23] <der0b> rjg_: check the wiki page for beryl again.  there's only one repo and it's the one you should be using
[05:23] <afief> AcidStriker: when compiling you need the {$package}-dev package
[05:23] <ParaDoX34690> oh yeah... that's a good ban LjL ;)
[05:23] <rjg_> one what wiki?
[05:23] <der0b> rjg_: the ubuntu wiki: wiki.ubuntu.com
[05:23] <AcidStriker> afief: apt-get install openssl-dev --> Couldn't find package openssl-dev
[05:24] <bradley> LjL, okay. i guess i will sift through google and see if some howtos exist. then gage my desire to do it.
[05:24] <LjL> bradley, another issue can be that of I/O starving
[05:25] <LjL> bradley: you might have processes that aren't really using much CPU, but use the hard drive a lot
[05:25] <biotrox> hey again
[05:25] <bradley> LjL, how would i check that?
[05:25] <biotrox> need to ask a Q
[05:25] <LjL> bradley: in that case, it's even harder to get them to "behave". you can install the "schedutils" package and try using the (undocumented... look at google) "ionice" command
[05:25] <mc44> !ask | biotrox
[05:25] <ubotu> biotrox: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[05:25] <kamui> any way to stop cron from mailing me every 5 minutes when it runs my crontab entries?  I tried the MAILTO="" in /etc/crontab, but it had no effect
[05:26] <afief> AcidStriker: libssl-dev
[05:26] <LjL> bradley, if your HD is active and making noise all the time while the intensive program is running, then it's I/O bound... easy enough ;)
[05:26] <biotrox> i installed the libgl1-mesa-glx & libgl1-mesa-dri
[05:26] <biotrox> but can't get the drivers works
[05:26] <mc44> biotrox: which drivers?
[05:26] <biotrox> RADEON
[05:26] <biotrox> 9600
[05:26] <der0b> kamui: have you tried setting the mailto address to /dev/null
[05:26] <afief> AcidStriker: apt-cache search ssl dev works wonders;)
[05:26] <biotrox> want to make AIGLX works
[05:27] <ken33> I have locked myself out of the "services" option in System>administration. I can no longer open that dialog box. i get a message saying "You are not allowed to access the system configuration". Same thing goes for "gksudo services-admin" please help me.
[05:27] <rjg_> I hate to sound silly, but I se no repository ont at page...Can you give me it's URL and any other needed data so I can enter it?
[05:27] <cmt^^> How do I play movies from .img-archives?
[05:27] <un_operateur> kamui, I think you need to add &> /dev/null to the end of the cron job
[05:27] <mc44> biotrox: aiglx wont work with an ati card
[05:27] <biotrox> soooo..?
[05:28] <un_operateur> kamui, that or   > /dev/null 2>&1
[05:28] <bradley> LjL, i think at the moment it is I/O bound but usually it is tiny cpu peaks that glitch stuff. but i kind of feel that changing it is out of my league for now.  maybe later on i'll do something about it.
[05:28] <kamui> un_operateur: hadn't even thought of redirection, thanks :)
[05:28] <bradley> LjL, thanks for all the info.
[05:28] <mc44> biotrox: so you have an ati card, therefore aiglx will not work
[05:28] <LjL> bradley, "ps aux" will list all processes
[05:28] <un_operateur> kamui, it also means you wont be notified of any errors eh :(
[05:28] <biotrox> what do i use in exchange to AIGLX
[05:28] <LjL> bradley: look what the offending process number is, and do "sudo renice 10 process-number"
[05:28] <LjL> bradley: that will make the process behave nicer with other processes
[05:29] <ken33> Someone please help
[05:29] <rjg_> der0b: that's the repos I have there.
[05:29] <mc44> biotrox: use an nvidia or intel card. You can get berly to work using xgl with your ati card
[05:29] <biotrox> ubotu how to install xgl in ubuntu
[05:29] <mc44> !xgl | biotrox
[05:29] <ubotu> biotrox: Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - Help in #ubuntu-xgl - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[05:30] <der0b> rjg_: what happens when you do sudo apt-get update and sudo apt-get upgrade?
[05:30] <ken33> mc44: Can you help me?
[05:30] <bradley> LjL, great, that is simple enough, thanks.  are the changes perminant for the program or would i need to run that command each time i reopen it (and it is hogging space)?
[05:30] <rjg_> with it enabled?
[05:30] <biotrox> Thx
[05:30] <afief> der0b: you download all the updates for your packages
[05:30] <biotrox> mc
[05:30] <der0b> rjg_: you may also need to do an apt-get dist-upgrade
[05:30] <rjg_> der0b: I'll get the output for you now:
[05:30] <LjL> bradley: no you need to do it every time. but you can just do it while starting it, like this:   nice -n 10 command-name
[05:30] <rjg_> ok
[05:31] <afief> der0b: the first gets a list of the updates, the second actually installs them. if there are some more agressive updates you'll need to use dist-upgrade
[05:31] <LjL> ken33, stop evading bans. thanks.
[05:31] <der0b> afief: thanks, I'm actually just trying to find out if rjg_ is having a problem :)
[05:31] <afief> der0b: Afief bangs head on the desk
[05:31] <der0b> lol
[05:32] <rojosacerdotes> afief: i've been doing that all monrning
[05:32] <rojosacerdotes> morning, even
[05:32] <madzialek> no co
[05:32] <kamui> un_operateur: its just a job to awaken fetchmail daemon if its not active, another job to check the status of a few services Im running and respawn them if they're down.  I redirected the output to a log in my home dir, just annoying to wake up and check my email with mutt only to find 1200 entries of cron notifications
[05:32] <madzialek> wath
[05:33] <afief> rojosacerdotes: same here, i actually don't feel the pain anymore:D resolving cairo problems makes me want to commit suidice
[05:33] <rojosacerdotes> how stable is edgy?
[05:33] <un_operateur> kamui, you could redirect to a seperate log if you want to keep records - just in case
[05:33] <screechingcat> rojosacerdotes: extremely stable
[05:33] <afief> rojosacerdotes: if you want to compile your own software it's buggy
[05:34] <ubuntu> what do you have to do to host a gnibbles network game ?
[05:34] <bradley> LjL, Ken33 may be evading bans because s/he doesn't understand how or why they are being banned. it might be better to explain appropriate behavior before banning.
[05:34] <rojosacerdotes> screechingcat:  so to upgrade to edgy from dapper, you'd do a dist-upgrade, right?
[05:34] <LjL> bradley, it might be better if you discussed this kind of issues in #ubuntu-ops rather than here.
[05:34] <rjg_> der0b: I need to reboot my machine then I'll do the things you told me to and give you the output after rejoining....I'm having issues, so I'll get that for you in a sec.
[05:35] <bradley> LjL, okay. sorry i didn't know that such a thng existed.
[05:35] <cmt^^> !img
[05:35] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about img - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:35] <rojosacerdotes> !justshootme
[05:35] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about justshootme - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:35] <screechingcat> rojosacerdotes: edgy is extremely stable. but the upgrade process is not. i advice you not to upgrade unless you have the time and willingness to fix a few breakages afterwards
[05:35] <forsaker> hi :)
[05:35] <der0b> rjg_: I may not be here :(
[05:35] <mc44> !hi | forsaker
[05:35] <ubotu> forsaker: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[05:35] <rindolf> Hi all.
[05:35] <Music_Shuffle> Hi =]
[05:36] <rindolf> Are there any Google employees here?
[05:36] <rojosacerdotes> screechingcat: yeah, i figured that. libc stuff, right?
[05:36] <bradley> LjL, thanks for getting me on track for controlling cpu usage. i appreciate the help.
[05:36] <zsh> hi. is there a way i can browse my phone through bluetooth on ubuntu like i can on kubuntu???
[05:36] <rjg_> ok, I'll ry to do this now then.
[05:36] <Yawner> Hmm, anyone know how to set which workspace a startup program appears on?
[05:36] <LjL> !offtopic | rindolf
[05:36] <ubotu> rindolf: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[05:36] <screechingcat> rojosacerdotes: so if you still want to upgrade , just run this command "update-manager -c"
[05:37] <mc44> rindolf: it is unlikely that there are, why do you ask?
[05:37] <screechingcat> rojosacerdotes: but i suggest backing up your data and doing a clean install of edgy or sticking with dapper for a while
[05:37] <ubuntu> what do you have to do to host a gnibbles network game ?
[05:37] <forsaker> is there any known problem about ttf-opensymbol... I'm getting a configure error... does anyone know something?
[05:37] <zsh> anyone?
[05:38] <rindolf> mc44: I'm looking for ones to report some Google Groups breakage + spam.
[05:38] <forsaker> the error is the following: http://rafb.net/paste/results/aUPg7i23.html
[05:38] <mc44> rindolf: this is not the right place at all
[05:38] <rindolf> mc44: OK.
[05:38] <rojosacerdotes> screechingcat: i'd have to stick with it until they froze it, though, right?
[05:38] <afief> ubuntu: usually just press file->start network game
[05:38] <mynameisdeleted> I'm prob gogin to end up with a dual core on multi-gigabit backbone
[05:39] <mynameisdeleted> how much load would it be to run an ubuntu rync mirror?
[05:39] <mynameisdeleted> and can there be a user limit
[05:39] <afief> LjL: does this make any sense for you? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/38239/
[05:39] <mynameisdeleted> to maybe 10GB a day transfer?
[05:39] <mynameisdeleted> before the mirror dissappears from the list?
[05:39] <mc44> !enter | mynameisdeleted
[05:39] <ubotu> mynameisdeleted: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[05:39] <screechingcat> rojosacerdotes: i dint quite understand you there. come again ?
[05:40] <slipttees> http://rapidshare.com/files/8413482/ie6-6.0.deb.html
[05:40] <ubuntu> whats the console gaim type program?
[05:40] <slipttees> http://rapidshare.com/files/8413482/ie6-6.0.deb.html
[05:40] <LjL> afief, care to give me the SVN line? it allows anynomous access, doesn't it?
[05:40] <Yawner> Hmm, anyone know how to set which workspace a startup program appears on?
[05:41] <zsh> ok, does anyone know how i can browse my phone through bluetooth on ubuntu please...:)
[05:41] <afief> LjL: actually this is just the stinky normal gweled source package, there is no svn for it. i'll get you the supertux one in a minute
[05:41] <dfcarney> !lamp > dfcarney
[05:42] <Yawner> zsh: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BluetoothSetup
[05:42] <LjL> afief: ah, it's the Edgy source package?
[05:42] <Yawner> zsh: I havent tried it, but thats the article I found, I would also do a few searches on the forums, there is bound to be something about it on there
[05:42] <ParaDoX34690> !lamp > paradox34690
[05:42] <zsh> Yawner: ok, thanks
[05:42] <afief> LjL, nope i downloaded it from the gweled webpage
[05:42] <ubuntu> whats the console gaim type program?
[05:42] <naylor> hi can anyone please help me, i had a power cut when computer was updating and now get these errors: http://pastebin.ca/287580
[05:43] <ubuntu__> whats the yahoo/msn client that runs in console ?
[05:43] <rjg____> der0b: ok, I'm about to do it
[05:44] <rjg____> derob: my computer crahsed, so I'm usign a differnet name, but I'm the same person
[05:45] <LjL> sory afief guess i'm multitasking a bit too much... let's start with supertux, since at least i've used that one, if not compiled it
[05:46] <afief> LjL, no problem, i appreciate your help. don't overload yourself with my trouble though
[05:46] <J_P> hi all.. people, anyone know one good dictionary for ubuntu from eng to pt , etc.. ?
[05:46] <LjL> !gdict
[05:46] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about gdict - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:46] <LjL> hmm, sorry.
[05:46] <afief> LjL, I would appreciate it if we started with gweled though since the libcairo.so problem is keeping me from learning gtk+
[05:46] <LjL> actually i think there's a built-in dictionary as a panel applet
[05:47] <rjg____> der0b:Failed to fetch http://ubuntu.beryl-project.org/dists/edgy/edgy/binary-i386/Packages.gz  404 Not Found [IP: <IP_ADDRESS> 80]
[05:47] <rjg____> Reading package lists... Done
[05:47] <rjg____> W: GPG error: http://ubuntu.beryl-project.org edgy Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 3FF0DB166A7476EA
[05:47] <rjg____> W: You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems
[05:47] <rjg____> E: Some index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old ones used instead.
[05:47] <Music_Shuffle> !pastebin
[05:47] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[05:47] <J_P> is one translator
[05:47] <Music_Shuffle> >.<
[05:47] <procrastinator> has anyone applyed a backup of a Palm with gpilot?
[05:47] <rjg____> der0b: Failed to fetch http://ubuntu.beryl-project.org/dists/edgy/edgy/binary-i386/Packages.gz  404 Not Found [IP: <IP_ADDRESS> 80]
[05:47] <rjg____> Reading package lists... Done
[05:47] <rjg____> W: GPG error: http://ubuntu.beryl-project.org edgy Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 3FF0DB166A7476EA
[05:47] <rjg____> W: You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems
[05:47] <rjg____> E: Some index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old ones used instead.
[05:47] <dfcarney> rjg____: please stop pasting here.  use pastebin instead.
[05:47] <rjg____> Nevermind!
[05:47] <afief> !pastebin > rjg___
[05:48] <rjg____> pstebin?
[05:48] <rjg____> what's that?
[05:48] <rojosacerdotes> !justshootme
[05:48] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about justshootme - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:48] <dfcarney> !pastebin
[05:48] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[05:48] <rjg____> nevermind, The problem fixed it'sself.
[05:48] <naylor> would anyone please be kind enough to help me? i have errors messages as there was a powercut while my computer was doing openoffice updates this morning...
[05:48] <xptweakerntn> long story, i reistalled ubuntu, and forgot how i got multimedia codecs installed. i installed this time two gstream things in the add/remove thing, but, it won't play in amarok.
[05:48] <ttoine> hey, men
[05:48] <sujan> hi, i am getting the following error message, while running a java app, how do i rectify that
[05:48] <sujan> Exception in thread "main" java.awt.AWTError: Cannot load AWT toolkit: gnu.java.awt.peer.gtk.GtkToolkit
[05:48] <ttoine> please, look at this ;-)
[05:48] <ttoine> http://ayo73.free.fr/ubuntustudio/logo-ubuntu-media-1700.png
[05:49] <afief> naylor: i think there is some command like dpkg --configure-all which should be able to fix it, but i don't remember the exact command
[05:49] <rojosacerdotes> xptweakerntn: see ubuntuguide.org
[05:49] <dfcarney> naylor: I don't have a lot of time, but what does the output of the 'dmesg' command say?  Can you post that to pastebin?
[05:49] <rjg____> der0b: the issue has corrected itself...THak you for your help/
[05:49] <sujan> in some list, i have seen they have asked for removal of gjc and instead install java from sun
[05:49] <LjL> Ubotu, tell rjg____ about paste | rjg____, see the private message from Ubotu
[05:49] <LjL> Ubotu, tell rjg____ about enter | rjg____, see the private message from Ubotu
[05:49] <naylor> dfcarney, sorry how do i get that?
[05:49] <LjL> Ubotu, tell rojosacerdotes about botabuse | rojosacerdotes, see the private message from Ubotu
[05:49] <FluxD> hi i am trying to make a screencast of my desktop? the ones I tried were istanbul and xvid cap both are not working for some reason what other ones are there?
[05:49] <dfcarney> naylor: Get what?  'dmesg' is just a command that you can run at the prompt (and it'll output a tonne of info).
[05:50] <rojosacerdotes> you could have told me yourself, you know
[05:50] <dfcarney> naylor: I'm worried that you may have filesystem corruption.
[05:50] <rjg____> der0b: it updated fine except now I just og t a error. Ill pastebin it as you wish.
[05:50] <naylor> dfcarney, http://pastebin.ca/287614
[05:50] <afief> ttoine: that's cute, is the SVG(or whatever format) accessable for the public?
[05:50] <naylor> dfcarney, i did do an fsck after and it fixed a couple errors
[05:50] <LjL> afief, main problem is that gweled requires not only GTK, but the whole of GNOME, and i don't really feel like getting that, being a KDE user...
[05:51] <naylor> afief, shall i try the command you just gave me?
[05:51] <afief> LjL, then i shall fetch the supertux link
[05:51] <rjg____> der0b: pastebined.
[05:51] <Arin> hello, can someone help me with sharing adsl connection for ubuntu ?
[05:52] <naylor> afief, it doesn't seem to do anything...
[05:52] <afief> naylor: i doubt it will work, but you should be able to find something similar in your man dpkg
[05:52] <dfcarney> naylor: eek.
[05:52] <Arin> I have a pc with ubuntu connected via adsl, and I'd like to share the connection with another machine (also with ubuntu)
[05:52] <naylor> dfcarney, eek?
[05:52] <dfcarney> naylor: It would seem that the fsck wasn't perfect.
[05:52] <Pyru> Hello I am new to linux and ubuntu, can someone  please help me to get my dvd playback working! thanks
[05:52] <naylor> dfcarney, why what's the problem?
[05:52] <afief> LjL: svn://svn.berlios.de/supertux/trunk
[05:53] <dfcarney> naylor: I mean, if you have warnings about missing directories and the like after an fsck it generally means that you've lost something important.
[05:53] <AcidStriker> afief: sorry, my boss called me.
[05:53] <BlackHawk> hi
[05:53] <afief> !restrictedformats > Pyru
[05:53] <naylor> dfcarney, what should i do?
[05:53] <AcidStriker> afief: I try to do an apt-get install openssl-dev but It said that it couldn't find the package
[05:53] <afief> AcidStrike, i think the package name was libssl-dev
[05:54] <AcidStriker> afief: will try that
[05:54] <dfcarney> naylor: Let me look through the original pastebin linkl...gimme a sec.
[05:54] <rjg____> der0b: thanks a million for you help..
[05:54] <afief> AcidStrike, searching for stuff in synaptic or apt-cache can do wonders;)
[05:54] <naylor> dfcarney, do i have missing dirs? is it just not the updates that got wrecked in the powercut and didn't finish?
[05:54] <Pyru> afief: I read up on restricted formats but I am new to linux, this is my first day and I'm still lost , just curious if someone can help me get dvd playback working then I can read up more :) thanks
[05:54] <naylor> dfcarney, thanks
[05:54] <DJAdmiral> Hey - how does one connect to Optusnet on Ubuntu?
[05:54] <afief> Pyru, Can you open a command line?
[05:54] <Pyru> yes
[05:55] <dfcarney> naylor: Does /usr/share/fonts exist?  What happens when you type "ls /usr/share/fonts"?
[05:55] <afief> okay do that, i'll fetch you a command that _should_ solve your problem(a magic potion:P)
[05:55] <Angryelf_> hey everyone -- im' having an interesting issue here on this one computer
[05:55] <naylor> dfcarney, i get: fonts.cache-1  truetype  type1  X11
[05:55] <Pyru> wicked, thank you afief
[05:55] <Angryelf_> when I Crtl + Alt + F1 the screen goes crazy -- no prompt, just horizontal and vertical lines/artifacts etc....any ideas?
[05:56] <xan> alguien que hable espaol
[05:56] <Pyru> angry: graphics card driver maybe?
[05:56] <xan> necesito ayuda urgente
[05:56] <nette> hey: i know this is a question for another channel, but noone wants to help: has anyone installed beryl on ubuntu edgy on ATI graphic card??
[05:56] <mc44> !es | xan
[05:56] <ubotu> xan: Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[05:56] <Angryelf_> Pyru: standard driver, fresh install -- i've tried installing fglrx but then it won't boot to a prompt -- it hangs during the Ubuntu splash logo
[05:56] <staniel> hello, folks! Don't know how this works... do I just ask a question to anyone in general or is there some one here specifically I need to ask
[05:57] <mc44> !beryl | nette
[05:57] <ubotu> nette: Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-xgl
[05:57] <rdz> hello all. how can i found out which package a certain file is part of?
[05:57] <pike_> !ask| staniel
[05:57] <ubotu> staniel: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[05:57] <dfcarney> naylor: Well, first thing you need to do is to figure out the cause of those errors that dpkg emits.  I believe that dpkg will output a log in /var/log/dpkg.log -- check that
[05:57] <pike_> staniel: fire away
[05:57] <nette> mc44, ive tried every "walkthrough" but nothing works..just wondered if anyone had tried!
[05:57] <h0ndaracer2> what is a good program to improve my typing skills to get faster right now im at about 66 words per minute
[05:57] <h0ndaracer2> :
[05:57] <h0ndaracer2> ?
[05:57] <staniel> I have a question, just need to know who to ask
[05:57] <h0ndaracer2> just ask the question
[05:57] <mc44> nette: try in #ubuntu-sgl
[05:58] <mc44> nette: try in #ubuntu-xgl
[05:58] <Pyru> afief: just curious if your still with me here :)
[05:58] <mads2> hi
[05:58] <lumaQQ> Q: is there an easy way to convert all music files to OGG?  im using about 100 MP3 files that i want in OGG.....any help anyone?
[05:58] <dfcarney> naylor: to fix the problem, it may be as simple as removing and re-installing some packages.  If there was a lot of data lost, however, you may have to reinstall (though I doubt it).
[05:58] <mads2> how do i mount iso files in linux?
[05:58] <nette> mc44, yeah im in that channel but noone wants to help
[05:58] <h0ndaracer2> you dont have to ask to ask questions
[05:58] <pike_> staniel: if its related to ubuntu just ask the room and someone will probably pick it up
[05:58] <staniel> ok. I just installed linux on a desktop... the install never asked me to provide  a password for root
[05:58] <mads2> i got this .iso that i need to mount to /cdrom
[05:58] <Angryelf_> mad2 mount -t iso9660 ...
[05:58] <afief> Pyru: i am, but my connection is quite overwhelmed
[05:58] <mads2> thanks
[05:58] <dfcarney> naylor: Ultimately, you're going to need to spend some time tracking down what data was lost and then figure out how to get it back.
[05:58] <mc44> !ogg2mp3 | lumaQQ
[05:58] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ogg2mp3 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:58] <naylor> dfcarney, would you mind taking a quick look at my pastebin of that file?
[05:58] <mc44> !mp32ogg | lumaQQ
[05:58] <ubotu> mp32ogg: Converts MP3 file to Ogg Vorbis. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.11-7 (edgy), package size 7 kB, installed size 64 kB
[05:59] <staniel> so my question is ... what is my root password
[05:59] <mc44> lumaQQ: see above
[05:59] <dfcarney> naylor: which file?
[05:59] <pike_> staniel: the root account is disabled. use "sudo command" instead see the following link
[05:59] <pike_> !root | staniel
[05:59] <ubotu> staniel: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[05:59] <dfcarney> naylor: the log?  sure, post it.
[05:59] <lumaQQ> MC44 yeah but i dont understand a single word of that...  is it just me or does it make no sence?
[05:59] <lumaQQ> Vorbis?  MC44 >  i need vorbis?
[05:59] <naylor> dfcarney, yeah the log, it's not posting though, pastebin taking a while...
[06:00] <staniel> will do. thank you
[06:00] <mc44> lumaQQ: you want to turn mp3 into ogg right?
[06:00] <h0ndaracer2> anyone no what happened to igniteds.net
[06:00] <lumaQQ> mc44   right
[06:00] <h0ndaracer2> the forum
[06:00] <h0ndaracer2> it get hacked
[06:00] <mc44> lumaQQ: then "sudo apt-get install mp32ogg" in a terminal
[06:00] <afief> Pyru: use this command: sudo apt-get install gstreamer0.10-pitfdll gstreamer0.10-ffmpeg gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad-multiverse gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly-multiverse gxine libxine-main1 libxine-extracodecs gxine libxine-main1 libxine-extracodecs ogle ogle-gui
[06:01] <markeib> hey
[06:01] <rojosacerdotes> do ubuntu branches match up with debian? for instance, is dapper = uh, woody? that kind of thing?
[06:01] <Pyru> afief: E: Couldn't find package gstreamer0.10-pitfdll
[06:01] <markeib> how can i make nautilus shorten the names of my files in the symbols view?
[06:01] <staniel> is there a way to copy and paste this text?
[06:01] <afief> Pyru: did you enable the universe/multiverse repositories?
[06:02] <Akuma_> what's the best wireless monitor app?
[06:02] <jhaig> rojosacerdotes: I doubt it as ubuntu has 6 month release cycle, while debian has a "when it's ready" release cycle.
[06:02] <lumaQQ> mc$$  ~~  then?
[06:02] <Pyru> I havn't , I don't know how to :( sorry
[06:02] <lumaQQ> mc44 ~~  then?
[06:02] <rojosacerdotes> jhaig: so ubuntu has its own developers then - based on but separate from debian?
[06:02] <pike_> staniel: if your in a terminal window ctrl-shift-c or in gui just ctrl-c
[06:02] <BrokenPipe> Ubuntu has suddenly started crashing as soon as I start it up.  Is there a way to check if there's something wrong with the version in Ubuntu?
[06:02] <naylor> dfcarney, i don't get it, none of pastebins seem to be responding, is it cos it's too much text?
[06:02] <staniel> thanx pike
[06:02] <pike_> staniel: np
[06:02] <BrokenPipe> heh
[06:02] <mc44> lumaQQ: then run mp32ogg filename
[06:03] <BrokenPipe> *Azureus* has suddenly started crashing as soon as I start it up.  Is there a way to check if there's something wrong with the version in Ubuntu?
[06:03] <Pyru> k there enabled them
[06:03] <bradley> LjL, after all of that i seem to have lost the last thing you said about renice. do you remember what it was?
[06:03] <Pyru> now it has to get the updates
[06:03] <jhaig> rojosacerdotes: I think ubuntu is based more on debian testing or unstable, which has more up to date packages
[06:03] <mc44> lumaQQ: to convert a file, i.e mp32ogg a.m3
[06:03] <lumaQQ> mc44  ~  is there no prgram that will do this for me?
[06:03] <Pyru> enabled them via synaptic
[06:03] <Pyru> am i going about it correct?
[06:03] <LjL> bradley: i think the last thing was that, instead of starting the program and *then* use renice, you can start the program directly using "nice -n 10 program-name"
[06:03] <roho> jhaig: but will ubuntu go its own way then? or do they base things on debian packages?
[06:03] <dfcarney> naylor: i don't know.
[06:03] <LjL> bradley: from a shell, of course. not sure if that can be put into the GNOME menu
[06:03] <mc44> lumaQQ: ok "sudo apt-get soundconverter" then run soundconverter, that should be easier
[06:03] <afief> pyru: yes but do an apt-get update first or press the synaptic reload button(please write my name when you address me so i can distinguish you from others)
[06:04] <bradley> LjL, yeah, perfect.
[06:04] <mc44> lumaQQ: ok "sudo apt-get install soundconverter" rather
[06:04] <dfcarney> naylor: does the log file have any obvious errors?
[06:04] <naylor> dfcarney, yeah it says it's over one meg!!
[06:04] <dfcarney> naylor: well, that would do it.
[06:04] <Pyru> afief: alright sorry, i enabled then pressed the refresh button now it is downloading some files
[06:04] <naylor> dfcarney, there's stacks and stacks of half-configured this, that and the other stuff
[06:04] <jhaig> roho: I'm not an ubuntu or debian developer, so I don't know for certain, but I think ubuntu is based on debian and passes back updates, so they should stay fairly close.
[06:04] <Pyru> afief: package information to be exact :P
[06:04] <afief> Pyru: this is the list of packages in the repositories:)
[06:05] <roho> ok
[06:05] <roho> i wonder whether ubuntu will separate from debian eventually
[06:05] <LjL> bradley: "10" is just an example of course. basically, 0 is the normal priority for user processes; positive priorities mean the process get *less* CPU time for them, and negative priorities means they get *more*. i suggest that if you ever use negative priorities you never go below -3, or you could interfer with system processes easily
[06:05] <afief> roho: i hope not
[06:05] <LjL> bradley: it might be confusing, but a *lower* number means a *higher* priority
[06:06] <roho> afief: why not?
[06:06] <dfcarney> naylor: Well, without knowing much about your exact problem, start by removing the ttf-opensymbol package and purging all of the .deb files.
[06:06] <jhaig> I suspect that a lot of ubuntu packages are simply taken from debian testing and repackaged.
[06:06] <roho> yeah
[06:06] <mads2> do i need some kind of daemon tools alike program in linux to make a program think the .iso file is actually the cdrom?
[06:06] <numist> I suspect that they aren't even repackaged so much as copied
[06:06] <roho> jhaig: that's what it feels like
[06:06] <mads2> im trying to install unreal tournament 2004.
[06:07] <afief> roho: debian is like the part that ensures ubuntu's stability IMO. also there are lots of great tools that ubuntu gets from debian(apt?)
[06:07] <roho> well, when i ran debian, i had to configure a lot of things; whereas with ubuntu, configuration for some things were already done for me
[06:07] <bradley> LjL, it's not quite intuitive but it makes sense :)
[06:07] <pike_> mads2: example:  sudo mount -o loop /home/user/file.iso /media/cdrom
[06:07] <naylor> dfcarney, well here is a little bit of the log: http://pastebin.ca/287628
[06:07] <mads2> thanks pike_
[06:07] <numist> roho: that just means that ubuntu defaults to a higher level of 'dont bug me' in dpkg
[06:07] <afief> roho: that's because debian is for professionals ONLY
[06:08] <roho> afief: well, i could use debian fine
[06:08] <numist> roho: not necessarily that anything changed
[06:08] <roho> just with ubuntu i didn't have to spend inordinate amounts of time getting things to work
[06:08] <roho> the only hardware i have that i can't figure out is this palm m130
[06:08] <naylor> dfcarney, all the openoffice stuff is there
[06:08] <afief> roho: imagine all the ubuntu users who are crying about their mp3 files... how would they manage with debian?
[06:08] <LjL> bradley: well the idea is that (as the command suggest) you're really giving a level of "niceness" for the process rather than a priority. though it's really a priority at the end of the day. by the way, for priority 10, you don't even need the "-n 10", you can just type "nice program-name", because 10 is the default for the 'nice' command
[06:08] <dfcarney> naylor: try "sudo dpkg -r ttf-opensymbol"
[06:08] <mc44> roho: http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/relationship
[06:08] <roho> afief: they are? heh.
[06:08] <numist> afief: add the non-free repos and bam, done?
[06:09] <roho> mc44: much thanks
[06:09] <Pyru> afief: after i have finished downloading the package information do i run a sudo apt-get update via the terminal then run the command you pasted?
[06:09] <afief> numist: true, but they'd be yelled at for installing none-GPL software in the debian world, wouldn't they?
[06:09] <numist> afief: yeah and so would I.  *shrug*
[06:09] <naylor> dfcarney, http://pastebin.ca/287632
[06:09] <LjL> bradley: the original idea was that, on multi-user machines, users who needed to run CPU intensive jobs would be "nice" to other users, and start them using "nice". of course, nobody really did that ;)
[06:09] <numist> afief: anyone who wants everything and wants it to work uses the non-free repos
[06:10] <afief> Pyru: apt-get update is essentially what you've just done. it updates the information about the packages. use the long command i pasted
[06:10] <dfcarney> naylor: well, at least we've narrowed the problem down.
[06:10] <Pyru> afief: curious why my wireless is so slow on ubuntu, and my volume is not performing loud like it should and everything is set to max for volume? do you have any advice/help
[06:11] <naylor> dfcarney, really?
[06:11] <afief> numist: true, but debian is too religious about the gpl for most users here. although i've used it for some time and might go back to it after my trouble with the current edgy(i've already put more time in it than a debian installation)
[06:11] <pike_> Pyru: from terminal type "alsamixer"  to set vol maybe
[06:11] <markeib> how can i make nautilus shorten the names of my files in the symbols view?
[06:11] <dfcarney> naylor: I've got to run -- I'm sorry that I can't stick around to help.  If you can figure out why that dpkg -r command gives those errors, you'll likely be on your way to fixing your system.
[06:11] <numist> afief: it's too gpl religious for me too, but that doesnt mean I'll stop using it as long as that repos is around.  I actually dont like the gpl at all
[06:11] <naylor> dfcarney, ok thanks for your help
[06:11] <dfcarney> naylor: good luck :)  I'm sure that someone in this forum can help.
[06:12] <Pyru> pike_: all are at maximum
[06:12] <afief> pyru: try running alsamixer in the command line. there raise volume to the maximum
[06:12] <bradley> LjL, i interpreted it as the one process is going to be nice (on a scale of 0-10) to the other processes. and the negative numbers is negative niceness.
[06:12] <naylor> can anyone please help me out, dfcarney found the prob but he's gotta go and i don't have a clue what's going on!
[06:12] <un_operateur> hey naylor, i see you are here again with more questions :)
[06:12] <pike_> Pyru: there is a boost there that might help
[06:12] <un_operateur> naylor, whats the matter?
[06:12] <WizCraker> is there a way to install net-snmp 5.4 without compiling?  I installed with apt-get and it did 5.2.2 which is out of date.
[06:12] <bradley> LjL, or invasiveness.
[06:12] <naylor> un_operateur, my man! how's it going... hope you can help
[06:13] <afief> numist: you better not say that in a linux related channel:D i know it's workable, but lets face it: the newbies around ubuntu just don't want to put the work debian requires into their PCs
[06:13] <afief> Pyru: then i'm clueless
[06:13] <Music_Shuffle> No no.
[06:13] <Intelligitimate> Why does Evolution Mail suck so bad? It's even worse than Outlook.
[06:13] <Music_Shuffle> Its not that we don't want to put in the work.
[06:13] <Music_Shuffle> Its that you can get just as good a result with less. ;p
[06:13] <naylor> un_operateur, i've got this error: http://pastebin.ca/287632   i've got about a ton of errors infact
[06:13] <buzzed> what is the easiest way to get the latest java sdk?
[06:13] <LjL> bradley: yeah, that's about it really... normally, negative levels are only for processes owned by root (note that, as a normal user, you can only *increase* the niceness, i.e. decrease the priority, never the contrary)
[06:13] <Intelligitimate> I have to navigate through a gigantic menu of crap to subscribe and unscribe to newsgroups, and there is no yEnc support.
[06:14] <numist> afief: thats the odd thing though.. I did an install last week (first testing install I'd done in a while, things stopped breaking on me), and after adding non-free to apt, adding the missing packages I want, and configuring things like postfix, sudo, users, and svn, it was done!  it took under an hour to get going
[06:14] <un_operateur> WizCraker, debian/ubuntu usually lag behind on releases -- they are not bleeding-edge distros -- they aim for stability rather than concurrency
[06:14] <afief> intelligitimate: if you have any suggestions how it would suck less feel free to tell us or the devs about it
[06:14] <naylor> un_operateur, i aint a clue what is going on really, it's just errors galore!! power cut this morning while updating openoffice... and now loads of probs with dependencies and stuff
[06:14] <pike_> Pyru: for the wireless you might "cat /etc/resolv.conf" you normally should only have one nameserver that is typically like "nameserver <IP_ADDRESS>" if you have more just type "dig google.com" and the nameserver that it uses is the one to keep just remove the others
[06:14] <virus> Something is going pretty wrong here. I'm trying to set up a new ubuntu system - used exactly the same /etc/apt/sources.list, but the package "mbr" won't show up. I checked the packages.ubuntu.com archives and edgy really got such package - so it isn't just a legacy package installed on the other system.
[06:14] <numist> afief: it was whoa-fast
[06:15] <Intelligitimate> Yeah, I'd like to be able to right click on a newsgroup and have it unsubscribe, and not have to spend 10 minutes going through a menu to unsubscribe it.
[06:15] <LjL> bradley: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nice_(Unix) has some more details
[06:15] <Intelligitimate> And I'd like to be able to actually --type-- in the name of a newsgroup I want to subscribe to.
[06:15] <virus> "apt-get update && apt-cache search ^mbr$" gives no result. :-/
[06:15] <bradley> LjL, great i'll check it out now!
[06:15] <afief> numist: an hour after you finished the installation? my brothers would scream if they had to write any command line, not to mention work for an hour
[06:15] <WizCraker> un_operateur: okay thanks for the info.  I guess I'll try compiling again and see if it works this time around.  apparently a Cisco mib requires the newer version.  :(
[06:15] <Intelligitimate> Imagine that! Typing in the name of the newsgroup I want...
[06:15] <jhaig> buzzed: Can you install java SDK with EasyUbuntu?
[06:15] <un_operateur> naylor, sudo :)
[06:16] <buzzed> i think that is a plugin for the browser
[06:16] <numist> afief: I suppose that's true.  It could have been done all in gui (sans svn, but this is a server).
[06:16] <faust_> jhaig: EasyUbuntu is pretty much over. The repos they use are down.
[06:16] <mario> hiiii
[06:16] <mario> german ??
[06:16] <naylor> un_operateur, dude you're the man!
[06:16] <un_operateur> WizCraker, what cisco hardware are you polling?
[06:16] <jhaig> buzzed: (I don't know, but if you can it is probably the easiest way).
[06:16] <faust_> jhaig: Try automatix2 instead.
[06:16] <wahl> damn, my beryl has lagged:S when i try to start it ( it worked last time ) my cpu reboots:S
[06:16] <wahl> how to fix it?
[06:16] <LjL> !automatix | faust, jhaig
[06:16] <Pyru> afief: one thing I wish to accomplish also and I'll live with ubuntu and learn as much as possible is maybe installing wine and getting WoW to work, is this a hard task?
[06:16] <ubotu> faust, jhaig: automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[06:16] <buzzed> i think this is what i am looking for https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java
[06:16] <numist> afief: thing is, I get stuck with ubuntu...  its less user-friendly to me
[06:16] <naylor> un_operateur, sudo what?
[06:16] <jhaig> faust: I used it about a week ago to install media stuff.
[06:16] <afief> numist: still the tools would be beyond the scope of the normal user
[06:16] <numist> afief: yeah :/
[06:16] <un_operateur> naylor, sudo that command you are trying :)
[06:17] <naylor> un_operateur, i did sudo it though
[06:17] <mario> deutsch ??
[06:17] <afief> Intelligitimate: so it's an interface problem. please post them to the devs. interface design is something every developer sucks at, they'll appreciate the advice
[06:17] <naylor> un_operateur, http://pastebin.ca/287632
[06:17] <faust_> ubotu: Automatix states that that is a bunch of FUD coming from #ubuntu. Haven't seen it wreck anything yet.
[06:17] <numist> afief: for folks that are doing linux because they want to do linux (as opposed to replace osx/win), I think that's the nobler way to learn though
[06:17] <trinkolade> mario, #ubunut-de
[06:17] <afief> Intelligitimate: (I don't use newsgroups so i am unaffected)
[06:17] <Intelligitimate> What is a good newsreader? Because Evolution Mail absolutely sucks.
[06:17] <WizCraker> un_operateur: 1841 using the CISCO-CONFIG-COPY-MIB and keeps giving me Did not find 'zeroDotZero' in module SNMPv2-SMI (/usr/share/snmp/mibs/DISMAN-EVENT-MIB.txt).
[06:18] <JulieJulie> Hii
[06:18] <naylor> un_operateur, here's the original error the other guy was helping me out with from this morning: http://pastebin.ca/287546
[06:18] <LjL> faust_: please just don't recommend it in here, however you feel about it.
[06:18] <gouki> Are there any Ubuntu members around?
[06:18] <Kesman> how could I after starting an application from terminal, then close the terminal without the application to get shut down too?
[06:18] <JulieJulie> I have made 3 boot up disks already for ubuntu checked the the sums and all of that and its still not working?
[06:18] <pike_> Intelligitimate: alot of people use pan.  back when i got my tv shows off usenet before torrent its what i used
[06:18] <JulieJulie> Any advice? heh.
[06:18] <un_operateur> Wiseguy, IIRC you can download the MIBs for the particular hardware from Cisco's website
[06:18] <afief> numist: well, who cares how noble it is? as long as average joe can get the grip on it with little effort he'll use it, he might learn more advanced stuff later(that's my case)
[06:18] <Intelligitimate> sudo apt-get install pan then?
[06:18] <un_operateur> WizCraker, ^^
[06:18] <pike_> Intelligitimate: yep
[06:19] <numist> afief: this might be me being an ass, but I'm not a huge proponent of all the average joes using linux
[06:19] <Kesman> how could I close terminal without closing the application that I ran from it?
[06:19] <tybalt> How do I make synaptic update my IceWM menu automatically?
[06:19] <numist> afief: its good when they're interested enough to put back in, as you clearly are, but I believe it can ruin the community
[06:19] <LjL> afief: supertux configured for me. had to install libphysfs-dev and libopenal-dev
[06:19] <Rookie_> use %
[06:20] <kspath> pike_ are you jay?
[06:20] <naylor> un_operateur, i'm getting a load of stress from these powercuts, had a few the last few days and causing big problemos - muy malo!!
[06:20] <pike_> Kesman: either like: firefox &    or nohup firefox
[06:20] <pike_> kspath: nope
[06:20] <afief> intelligitimate: it would help if you wrote ther person's name in the beginning of the post, it helps users figure out what's addressed to them on busy days
[06:20] <Kesman> pike_: thanks
[06:21] <kspath> naylor: consider buying a UPS and/or power conditioner to minimize impact
[06:21] <afief> LjL: this is weird, i am sure i haven't made any bigger changes to my installation(yet) and still it can't find sdl-image:S
[06:21] <LjL> afief: perhaps just install all the sdl-related -dev packages you can find ;)
[06:21] <faust_> LjL: I'm just saying that I've ran it on a good number of computers and never seen it break, so maybe a retest and reevaluation of the statements made by the bot is in order. After all, projects change and improve all the time. Wasn't that many years ago Ubuntu was a horrible Debian fork noone wanted to use. I tried it and threw it away a number of times, but now it's my preferred distro. Things change.
[06:21] <wahl> how to make beryl auto-start? :)
[06:21] <Akuma_> my laptop's fan doesn't seem to rest. any tips on how i can go about fixing that?
[06:21] <un_operateur> naylor, -- can you pastebin this -- ls -ld /usr/share/fonts  /usr/share/X11/fonts  /usr/local/share/fonts
[06:21] <naylor> kspath, normally it's not a prob but last couple days been a nightmare
[06:22] <WizCraker> un_operateur: I know, and I did.  I was following the documentation from Cisco.  They don't exactly explain what to do for a "what if I get... error."
[06:22] <afief> numist: i'm of two minds in this case, to get better driver and software support we _need_ the average joes, but as long as they stick to ubuntu and don't go to debian i'm fine.
[06:22] <wahl> how to make beryl auto-start? :)
[06:22] <Pyru> afief: Totem cannot play this type of media (DVD) because you do not have the appropriate plugins to handle it.
[06:22] <un_operateur> naylor, I think you might like to invest in a UPS :)
[06:22] <naylor> un_operateur, http://pastebin.ca/287645
[06:22] <Pyru> this is after running the command and after it installed everything
[06:22] <tim167> i have a program complaining it cannot find libdpstk.so.1, how do I get/install that file ?
[06:22] <Music_Shuffle> !patience | wahl
[06:22] <ubotu> wahl: The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[06:22] <Music_Shuffle> wahl, are you on Gnome?
[06:22] <numist> afief: I can agree with that.  Ubuntu has had a reasonably positive effect on debian, and its been kept mostly for power users and servers
[06:23] <faust_> wahl: on gnome it's quite easy. System->Preferences->Sessions, add beryl-manager to the autostart list.
[06:23] <Music_Shuffle> On KDE you just have to drag it into the .autostart folder too. :o
[06:23] <wahl> tyy:P
[06:23] <afief> numist: now if only the hardware makers would be swayed to include the firmware in flashmemory on the hardware itself... that would be great
[06:24] <afief> Pyru: let me check if i missed anything
[06:24] <un_operateur> WizCraker, I'm not familiar with that package but usually what you do is pop the MIB spec files into a dir and get the program to update/scan them and you should be ready to go
[06:24] <Intelligitimate> pike: Pan already looks like a life-saver.
[06:24] <numist> afief: oh that would be something, wouldn't it
[06:24] <AcidStriker> How do I add a url so that apt-get searh in it?
[06:25] <tim167> where can i find libdpstk.so.1 ? cant find it with synaptic or dpkg
[06:25] <pike_> Intelligitimate: yeah i never could stand mailclient/newsreaders
[06:25] <afief> Intelligitimate: still, your suggestions could save other users. i'd encourage you to post them to the evolution devs
[06:25] <Intelligitimate> pike_: I can *gasp* search for what I want! And it does yEnc!
[06:25] <numist> evolution >_<
[06:25] <wahl> now i must get wine working
[06:25] <naylor> un_operateur, was that output any use to you?
[06:25] <afief> numist: that would be huge! i'm fighting with my wireless card because of some firmware issues here
[06:26] <numist> afief: what card?
[06:26] <faust_> AcidStriker: if it's a repository you add the pertinent info to /etc/apt/sources.list
[06:26] <afief> numist: don't remember the name but it uses ipw2200, which used to work in dapper but has problems in edgy
[06:26] <numist> afief: to tell the truth, last time I needed something that Just Worked, I installed FC5 on the night of its release on my laptop...  it only lasted until the quarter was done, but it was pretty amazing.  I hate yum so much after all these years.
[06:26] <numist> yeah, the ipw2200 worked for me in moments, but never tried in ubuntu :(
[06:26] <faust_> AcidStriker: pull up the console and type man sources.list . Then read.
[06:27] <un_operateur> naylor, 2 secs
[06:27] <wahl> !wine
[06:27] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[06:27] <h0ndaracer2> hey does ubuntu already come with python or do i needto download it from active state
[06:27] <WizCraker> un_operateur: yeah I'm thinking it is a versioning error.  As you said debian/ubuntu runs stable and not bleeding edge.. guess I'll look at a different version or figure out the compiling errors.
[06:27] <afief> numist: i tried to install fedora4, it had huge problems
[06:27] <nimbo> hey did someone give lg3d a shot? how do i install the packages from my local hdd?
[06:27] <numist> afief: thats an understatement
[06:27] <WizCraker> un_operateur: thanks for your help by the way.
[06:27] <un_operateur> WizCraker, python already exists on every modern distro
[06:28] <zero> ubuntu-es
[06:28] <afief> numist: perhaps you have a suggestion how to state it correctly? :-)
[06:28] <un_operateur> WizCraker, you are welcome - by the way :)
[06:28] <Pyru> afief: totem can't play it , but when i use gxine it reads the disk but then freezes with a message that i cannot see because it's frozen :P
[06:28] <WizCraker> un_operateur: python does snmp?
[06:28] <numist> afief: not with children in the channel :)
[06:28] <Music_Shuffle> lol
[06:28] <numist> afief: fc5 was quite slick once I got the non free repos (see a recurring theme?)
[06:28] <un_operateur> WizCraker, there are snmp bindings for python -- so it does so indirectly, yes
[06:28] <pike_> Pyru: i normally use mplayer but vlc is nice as it comes with all its own codecs and such
[06:29] <afief> Pyru: is your DVD encrypted?
[06:29] <un_operateur> naylor, I'd like you to try this -- sudo aptitude remove fontconfig
[06:29] <Pyru> afief: don't think so =/
[06:29] <akerr0r> i goofed Konversation somehow.. when i try to connect to a server via SSL i get a certificate info dialog that won't go away :(
[06:29] <grigore> stie cineva romana?
[06:29] <un_operateur> naylor, or this rather -- sudo aptitude purge fontconfig
[06:29] <Pyru> afief: no demuxer found error i get
[06:29] <JulieJulie> Not to be a pain but could anyone help me out?
[06:29] <Intelligitimate> pike_: thank you so much. This is like 100x better.
[06:29] <a> hi
[06:29] <afief> numist: argh! if you say it once more i might go off and start coding replacements for the "none free" stuff(which would lead to me failing in college)
[06:30] <pike_> Intelligitimate: np
[06:30] <numist> afief: I've already done that, it's not worth it :)
[06:30] <satna> verdammt, was ist hier los?
[06:30] <afief> Pyru, that is weird... perhaps you should try VLC like pike_ said, it's amazing how much stuff works painlessly under it
[06:31] <leandro-1> i havent borders wehn activate beryl! whats the problem?
[06:31] <afief> numist: how dare you say that?! thou hast abandoned the spirit of Linux
[06:31] <leandro-1> i havent windows borders wehn activate beryl! whats the problem?
[06:31] <naylor> un_operateur, it's give me a couple of "do you wanna try harder cos no solution?" questions...
[06:31] <numist> afief: nah, I simply converted to the spirit of BSD/MIT :P
[06:32] <numist> afief: as long as it all works and people come together for the spirit, that's ok with me
[06:32] <afief> leandro-1: patience, people need a minute to look up solutions!
[06:32] <leandro-1> yeap you right
[06:32] <Music_Shuffle> afief, LIES! We're all incredibly skilled robots. :P
[06:32] <un_operateur> naylor, you are probably going to have to do that -- choose a solution that is least harmful and select it
[06:32] <tim167> i'm still looking for this package: "libdpstk.so.1" can anyone help ?
[06:32] <Pyru> oh nice, I didn't see this add/remove this is a handy feature I take it? VLC is in the list
[06:32] <Music_Shuffle> leandro-1, Emerald..
[06:32] <afief> numist: still, i'd prefer it if the world were GPL, or at least wouldn't hide the code in binary blobs
[06:33] <leandro-1> music_shuffle, i update emerald, i download new themes, but nothing!
[06:33] <naylor> un_operateur, i've pressed yes three times and still no solutions... how do i know what is least harmful etc?
[06:33] <Music_Shuffle> Did yo uload Emerald?
[06:33] <dpro> hi
[06:33] <numist> afief: thats the problem with the GPL.  it's got a quest to take over the world -- it's the Napolean of licenses...  it's virality is the very thing that turns people off
[06:33] <leandro-1> how to do?
[06:33] <justin_> gam_server - is leaking mem, and using up 20-70% CPU what can I do? - killall simply makes it restart at the exact same mem level CPU --- and this is constant even when I reboot .. or have nothing but the DE running.
[06:33] <leandro-1> in terminal write "emerald"
[06:33] <Pyru> afief: is installing wine to work with WoW a hard process on Ubuntu?
[06:33] <afief> numist: there is LGPL too you know
[06:34] <pike_> Pyru: vlc is nice for streaming stuff too. on my crappy upload connection i can stream movies to my work computer from home using theora
[06:34] <numist> afief: oh I know..  all my libs are lgpl
[06:34] <Pyru> pike_: that's wicked
[06:34] <Pyru> thanks
[06:34] <numist> or MIT
[06:34] <numist> hrm
[06:34] <HentaiSushi> i need help
[06:34] <afief> Pyru: i am not a WoW player, but last time i checked there was some patch you need to apply
[06:34] <un_operateur> naylor, the least harmful one in this situation would be the one that removes/downgrades the least amount of other packages
[06:34] <HentaiSushi> i cannot see anything on my moniter during boot up
[06:34] <dpro> since /etc/inittab seems to be gone in 6.10 how would one go about redirecting serial console logging to a tty ? (i,e, in inittab speak sth. like "s1:12345:respawn:/sbin/agetty -L ttyS0 9600 vt100"  any hints ?
[06:34] <leandro-1> music_shuffle i write in terminal "emerald" it is ok?
[06:34] <Music_Shuffle> Umm
[06:34] <afief> Pyru: tell you what, add the wine repository(and update the lists) then do apt-get install wine; winecfg
[06:34] <Music_Shuffle> leandro-1, do...
[06:35] <numist> afief: but how many production pieces of software are lgpl?  the gpl even viralizes/cannibalizes the lgpl given the chance, if I read the fine print correctly
[06:35] <un_operateur> dpro, Edgy no longer uses init to boot -- thats why theres no inittab
[06:35] <afief> numist: cool, what did you write?
[06:35] <Music_Shuffle> leandro-1, emerald --replace &
[06:35] <leandro-1> then beryl_manager?
[06:35] <Music_Shuffle> In a terminal.
[06:35] <naylor> un_operateur, so if i keep scanning will it eventually find a solution and ask me if i wanna do it then?
[06:35] <Pyru> afief: alright after I finish installing vlc, says 10 minutes remaining =/
[06:35] <numist> afief: I write a lot of c libs here that my friends package into their software
[06:35] <Music_Shuffle> beryl-manager too.
[06:35] <leandro-1> emerald & beryl_manager??
[06:35] <dpro> un_operateur: so what's the alternative way of accomplishing the serial console -> tty redirect ?
[06:35] <naylor> un_operateur, i've hit yes loads of times now...
[06:35] <afief> Pyru, sorry i might not be here by then, i've not had lunch yet and it's 7:35 PM(the life of a university student:(
[06:35] <numist> afief: a touch of java, and then a bunch of crap in a billion languages
[06:35] <leandro-1> Music_Shuffle, emerald & beryl_manager??
[06:36] <afief> numist: i wanna see i wanna see:D
[06:36] <dpro> un_operateur: I have this running in qemu but I'd really like to see the output ;)
[06:36] <Music_Shuffle> leandro-1, are you on Edgy?
[06:36] <Pyru> afief: :( alright maybe you can private message me steps to do? if you have the time now
[06:36] <leandro-1> Music_Shuffle,  yeap
[06:36] <Music_Shuffle> leandro-1, http://doc.gwos.org/index.php/BerylOnEdgy#Enable_compositing_in_X
[06:36] <Pyru> afief: then I could read up on it :P
[06:36] <numist> afief: the fastest hash table in the west is in there, I think
[06:36] <un_operateur> naylor, well, the idea is that it presents the solution it thinks is best for you first and as you go on they become worse -- but thats not always the case from a user standpoint -- so i guess you keep going -- if by the 20th one it doesnt find one, give up
[06:36] <Music_Shuffle> Use that guide.
[06:36] <numist> afief: I broke it though..  need to finish that
[06:36] <afief> numist: i am still a wannabe dev, no time to advance very much because of my life(or lack thereof) as a university student
[06:36] <JulieJulie> My bootdisk and several others I have made doesn't boot up when is restarted?
[06:37] <afief> numist: do you have a link where i can read about this stuff?
[06:37] <numist> afief: thats the best time though
[06:37] <dpro> un_operateur: I've seen /etc/event.d/ that has files named tty* but I'm not really sure what I'm doing ... ;)
[06:37] <numist> afief: not really
[06:37] <leandro-1> ok, i do the posible, mi english suck hehe
[06:37] <justin_> Has the gam_server memory leak been addressed yet or what?
[06:37] <naylor> un_operateur, well i've done about 12 so far, but will it wreck my system?
[06:37] <afief> numist: no way! i hardly have enough time to eat
[06:37] <justin_> Why is it still happening...........
[06:37] <numist> afief: I got started programming when I was a kidlet, and then started programming in college
[06:37] <numist> afief: I actually failed out of school because of open source
[06:37] <un_operateur> dpro, ubuntu now uses upstart -- perhaps you might want to look up its docs and see if you can place a command in one of the scripts
[06:37] <Pyru> I am curious, since i have windows xp on my main partition if i were to remove it then linux wouldn't work am i correct? since u have to have an os on ur main partition? or would linux still run
[06:37] <naylor> un_operateur, conflick/break 258    it says at the moment and still trying
[06:38] <justin_> PyrU, linux would still run..
[06:38] <leandro-1> Music_Shuffle,  but this guide use stable driver of nvidia, i have the beta
[06:38] <justin_> Windows would not run though
[06:38] <Music_Shuffle> It'd still run.
[06:38] <Music_Shuffle> leandro-1, I installed the beta off of that too.
[06:38] <afief> numist: well i started programming at the age of 11(*shrug* VB) learned C/C++ etc... but now university is keeping me from advancing(i only discovered open source a year or so ago)
[06:38] <un_operateur> naylor, well, i cant answer that question from here -- it wont harm your system as in ruin the base and make it unusable -- but it might flail the desktop
[06:38] <Pyru> justin_: oh odd, sorry I thought you had to have an OS on ur main partition.
[06:38] <naylor> un_operateur, is there some other way to fix it?
[06:38] <justin_> How come dapper still had the old mem leaks that Breezy did.......
[06:38] <Music_Shuffle> Neg
[06:38] <numist> afief: what's your focus in uni?
[06:38] <justin_> still has* even
[06:38] <Music_Shuffle> justin_, it leaks?
[06:38] <leandro-1> Music_Shuffle,  i don understand
[06:39] <leandro-1> remove the beta?
[06:39] <Music_Shuffle> leandro-1, what card do you have?
[06:39] <afief> numist: i'm in the faculty of electrical engineering, the major is computer engineering and programming
[06:39] <leandro-1> geforce2 mx 400
[06:39] <justin_> Music_Shuffle: gam_server leaks like mad. - It happens mostly to Kubuntu folk for some reason - I never ever had this happen on Ubuntu or Xubuntu.
[06:39] <naylor> can anyone please please help me out!? i've got errors and struggling here...
[06:39] <Music_Shuffle> Neg, you can just install over them using the guide from top to bottom. That was what I did.
[06:39] <leandro-1> Music_Shuffle, geforce2 mx400
[06:39] <Music_Shuffle> over the other drivers*
[06:39] <un_operateur> naylor, ok -- forget that -- just force install fontconfig -- i think it is -- sudo dpkg -i --force-all /var/cache/apt/archives/fontconf*
[06:39] <afief> numist: but the only programming course this semester is about ASM in VAX11, which is about as interesting as intro to CS
[06:39] <hjmills> is there any good visualization software for linux  - im hopeing to use it with xwinwrap for my desktop bg
[06:40] <Music_Shuffle> justin_, yeah Kubuntu hates me...my installs with Kubuntu + GDM after always end badly.
[06:40] <afief> Pyrus: i think this guide will help you: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=120615
[06:40] <justin_> I freaking hate KDE..
[06:40] <Music_Shuffle> But when I install Ubuntu and add KDE, XFCE, Beryl, Flux, etc, it works fine.
[06:40] <Music_Shuffle> ./shrug.
[06:40] <afief> Pyrus: always use google, it's the most useful tool on earth after grep
[06:40] <khaladan> How does one usually go about editing initrd?
[06:40] <justin_> Every time I install it something goes wrong with my system and i'm forced to format or something
[06:40] <naylor> un_operateur, http://pastebin.ca/287665
[06:41] <HentaiSushi> lol
[06:41] <numist> afief: see, thats the way to go.  school takes up more time, but you wind up knowing more for it, and can apply it to things like this
[06:41] <HentaiSushi> google is god, only less offensive
[06:41] <numist> afief: little things are always needed (for instance, gentoo needs a maintainer for xmms right now)
[06:41] <justin_> But whats worse Music_Shuffle, is that this problem has been happening since Breezy.. and it's still happening
[06:41] <HentaiSushi> brb on ubuntu
[06:42] <Music_Shuffle> Odd. I've never much mucked about with Kubuntu after a couple bad experiences for that reason.
[06:42] <Rprp>   ChanServ Duiv Dylanp Eggdrop masterpimp Rprp [Jgotti`Eten]  [TypeInc]
[06:42] <afief> numist: yeah, next semester i'm into "data structures and algorithms"  and then intro to operating systems(kernel devs here i come:P)
[06:42] <numist> afief: ah hah, you're a first or second year then
[06:42] <justin_> Music_Shuffle: Heh, Yeah I think i'm going back to Ubuntu or Xubuntu.. - this is ridiculous, Kubuntu really does need more work.. :(
[06:42] <afief> numist: if you'd explain to me what a "maintainer" does i'd appreciate it...
[06:42] <Music_Shuffle> And then just install KDE after ^^
[06:42] <numist> afief: takes the source from the dev, makes a .deb
[06:43] <afief> numist: first half of the second year:(
[06:43] <numist> or .ebuild, in gentoo's case
[06:43] <numist> afief: good place to be
[06:43] <afief> numist: that's all?:S and that needs a maintainer?:S
[06:43] <LjL> afief, supertux compiled
[06:43] <new2ub> hello all! can any one tell me how bring up GUI of bittorrent. its installed there in my PC but i cant bring GUI
[06:43] <h0ndaracer2> what does a buffer overflow do?
[06:43] <numist> afief: yep.  sometimes you have to fix bugs that happen only on your distro too, but usually its quite easy, scriptable even
[06:44] <afief> LjL: must be something wrong on my machine, do you know how i can specify where configure should look for the SDL-Image package and where it could be?
[06:44] <hjmills> any ideas on a visualisation for linux?
[06:44] <afief> numist: actually that's another part i never understood, how come some bugs/features only happen in specific distros?
[06:45] <Music_Shuffle> Design?
[06:45] <un_operateur> naylor, sorry, i assumed that file was already downloaded -- here you go -- http://ubuntu.blueyonder.co.uk/archive/pool/main/f/fontconfig/fontconfig_2.3.2-7ubuntu2_i386.deb
[06:45] <Music_Shuffle> new2ub, grab a torrent program that has a GUI.
[06:45] <Music_Shuffle> new2ub, eg. KTorrent
[06:45] <Pyru> utorrent = ftw
[06:45] <Pyru> my opinion
[06:45] <Music_Shuffle> Yeah. But uTorrent with WINE setup on Edgy made me grr, so I said forget it, and use kTorrent now.
[06:45] <un_operateur> naylor, you can either place that file in /var/cache/apt/archives or modify the command to reflect the location to where you download it
[06:45] <GreyGhost> musashi ,did u succeed?
[06:46] <numist> afief: even though we're all built from the same software packages, different distros keep different things in different places.  That's usually the problem.  Sometimes there are actually real bugs, and those are due to small changes per distro that wind up growing
[06:46] <naylor> un_operateur, i just double clicked it and it's installed
[06:46] <numist> afief: in debian sarge, when it was in testing, the xfree86 project refused to support debian's version of their software
[06:46] <numist> afief: due to all the changes they'd made
[06:47] <wahl> any1 can help me here? i can't get wine to work, i can't even open sources.list with "gedit" any1 know another edit prog?
[06:47] <wahl> plz
[06:47] <Akuma_> i'm looking for an easy to use wireless monitor app. anyone here uses one they're satisfied with?
[06:47] <un_operateur> naylor, now you do this -- sudo sh -c "aptitude update; aptitude upgrade"
[06:47] <GreyGhost> wahl ,why cant u open it?
[06:47] <LjL> afief: wow, quite a few changes in the SVN version compared to what's in the repos... anyway, do you have the generic libsdl-dev installed too?
[06:47] <GreyGhost> wahl ,read only u mean?
[06:47] <afief> numist: thanks, i'll see what i can do about xmms, mind if i contact you via email later on? because i have to go now(i promise to send no more than 1K emails per day)
[06:47] <wasabi_> is there an official ubuntu deb package of jre1.6 floating around yet?
[06:48] <numist> afief: I'm sure xmms will be taken care of.  gentoo is a whole other realm, mind
[06:48] <afief> LjL: yes i do
[06:48] <GreyGhost> wahl if so then ....
[06:48] <GreyGhost> !sudo | wahl
[06:48] <ubotu> wahl: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[06:48] <numist> afief: sure<EMAIL_ADDRESS>(I'll reply from a more useful address later)
[06:48] <Pyru> afief: I hope that works, though I'm still very unfumiliar with installing packages which I download and unpackaging tars and gzipped :( I know i should read up, which I plan on doing an dwill do :) thanks for the guide if ur around it would be cool to help me further! ;)
[06:49] <naylor> un_operateur, masses of errors from that: http://pastebin.ca/287672
[06:49] <afief> Pyru: sure, i'm glad to give something back to the community that taught me this stuff about one year ago:) become a dev and contribute to repay us:P
[06:49] <pike_> wahl: if you havent already run "winecfg" in terminal to configure wine.
[06:49] <afief> numist: thanks a million
[06:49] <LjL> afief, i suggest you try auto-apt, "sudo apt-get install auto-apt", then "sudo auto-apt update", then "auto-apt run ./configure". ignore everything that doesn't seem relevant, and just look at what happens during the SDL check
[06:50] <afief> LjL: could you give me a short explenation what's special about auto-apt?
[06:50] <Aggrav8d> i changed the default port for SSH and then tried to /etc/init.d/ssh restart but i get "could not load host key" errors.  What should I do?
[06:50] <LjL> !auto-apt | afief
[06:50] <ubotu> auto-apt: package search by file and on-demand package installation tool. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.3.20 (edgy), package size 44 kB, installed size 216 kB
[06:50] <LjL> afief: hm nevermind, i thought there was a more informative factoid
[06:50] <un_operateur> naylor, maybe this -- sudo dpkg -i --force-all /var/cache/apt/archives/ttf-op*
[06:51] <afief> LjL: actually it makes some sense, although i didn't figure out how it'll take figure out the needed packages
[06:51] <wahl> pike_ how to run it then?
[06:51] <LjL> afief: auto-apt is similar to apt-file -- it can tell you which package contains a given file (even if it's not installed). only, auto-apt also allows *running* a program (like ./configure), and whenever that program cannot find a file, auto-apt will block it and look for that file in a package, and prompt you to install that package
[06:51] <wasabi_> anyone?
[06:51] <musashi> hey guys pick a number, 5 or 3
[06:51] <wasabi_> is there an official ubuntu deb package of jre1.6 floating around yet?
[06:51] <naylor> un_operateur, more errors dude: http://pastebin.ca/287675
[06:52] <LjL> afief, it's an LD_PRELOAD hack basically. it intercepts calls to open() and other functions, and when they would fail, it doesn't make them fail right away, but starts a package search instead
[06:52] <afief> LjL: that's awsome:D no more dependency hunting:D
[06:52] <LjL> afief, it's less awesome than it sounds
[06:52] <ox{> I am interested in adding my fonts to the gucharmap that come with ubuntu. Is this possible? Any help is appreciated.
[06:52] <GreyGhost> wasabi_ ,search synaptic?
[06:52] <afief> LjL: why?:(
[06:52] <LjL> afief: most of the time, it proposes completely awkward packages, because your configure script peeks some file that don't really matter
[06:52] <pike_> wahl: well once its installed you would just preface wine in front like.  wine install.exe    to run something.  it wont always work and will often take extra configuring.  programs will be installed to /home/username/.wine/drive_c   i think
[06:53] <wasabi_> GreyGhost, yea no luck, i don't know if i am missing repositories
[06:53] <LjL> afief: and it can miss dependencies as well, since not everything that configure checks for is checked by simply trying to open a file
[06:53] <GreyGhost> !jre
[06:53] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about jre - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:53] <pike_> wahl: there might be a gui but im not too familiar with wine
[06:53] <wasabi_> !java