[10:50] <nashy> So instead of selecting OEM install, I select Text Install?    soundray: what do you recommend, I mean, if its easier to re-install its no hassle at all
[10:50] <garryF> there is one person who worked me through recreating the groups and all.
[10:50] <soundray> nashy: if you are going to login with that username you added, all you need to do is give that user all system privileges, including connecting to the internet.
[10:50] <cheeseman557> whats the minimum size for the swap file?
[10:50] <Flannel> nashy: you want to end up with a normal desktop?
[10:50] <Flannel> cheeseman557: 0
[10:51] <nashy> Flannel:  Well, I want normal yeah :-p
[10:51] <cheeseman557> thanks
[10:51] <Flannel> nashy: then, put in the alternate CD, and just hit enter.  or, the default thing.
[10:51] <Flannel> nashy: text install soudns about right.  not server, not OEM.
[10:51] <Madpilot> nashy, go System->Admin->Users & Groups, select your user, hit Properties, then go to the User Privs tab - select stuff there
[10:52] <garryF> Text install gives you more flexability too. Might try what Madpilot says first.
[10:53] <nashy> I just added all privs
[10:53] <nashy> no change
[10:53] <Madpilot> nashy, you might have to log out & log in again - I'm not sure
[10:53] <soundray> nashy: you need to log out and in again to activate the changes.
[10:53] <garryF> Might have to reboot.
[10:54] <garryF> The user you are logged in as should be user id 1000
[10:54] <SpeesKeek> install takes ages, whats the prob? (eg uncompressing linux takes about 20-25minutes)
[10:54] <jenda-lappy> I need a user-level (not sudo) command to restart the ethernet connection. Can anyone hint me in?
[10:54] <garryF> Hmm, last time I saw a slow install, it was a dying hard drive or slow computer
[10:54] <Ng> jenda-lappy: I don't believe there is such a thing
[10:54] <soundray> SpeesKeek: underclocked 386 processor?
[10:55] <SpeesKeek> garryF .. i tried a 666mhz, 800mhz and a 1ghz.. all the same
[10:55] <SpeesKeek> soundray .. just a std PIII
[10:55] <fyrestrtr> jenda-lappy: unplug the cable
[10:55] <fyrestrtr> jenda-lappy: plug it back in.
[10:55] <SpeesKeek> garryF .. it is the install cd that takes ages to show me the install...
[10:55] <nashy> Logged out and in, terminal shows all privs, still no firefox
[10:55] <jenda-lappy> Ng, really? Strange... the thing is that Ubuntu doesn't detect the ethernet wire being plugged and unplugged - so I need to remind it each time, and I don't want to make dad type his pwd each time.
[10:56] <Gog123> nexenta which is based on ubuntu with opensolaris looks nice
[10:56] <garryF> SpeesKeek: How much memory?
[10:56] <SpeesKeek> 256
[10:56] <soundray> nashy: maybe you do want to reinstall
[10:56] <Gog123> the only thing is the kernel.....
[10:56] <jenda-lappy> fyrestrtr, that exactly is what doesn't work...
[10:56] <Gog123> in a comparison test, is linux or opensolaris better?
[10:56] <nashy> soundray:  Will do :-)
[10:56] <SpeesKeek> for a text based thing 256 seems enough to me :)
[10:56] <fyrestrtr> jenda-lappy: hrmm, that's strange.
[10:56] <garryF> Opensolaris seems slow in booting
[10:56] <soundray> SpeesKeek: are you installing from CD?
[10:56] <SpeesKeek> its an ubunu :p
[10:56] <SpeesKeek> jup soundray
[10:56] <fyrestrtr> Gog123: they are two different things, can't really compare one to the other.
[10:57] <SpeesKeek> tied the server cd  and the alternate
[10:57] <Gog123> fyrestrtr:  Which is better for desktop pc?
[10:57] <SpeesKeek> the ubunbtu 6 version
[10:57] <Gog123> opensolaris or linux
[10:57] <SpeesKeek> and a redhat 7.1
[10:57] <SpeesKeek> both afwull slow
[10:57] <soundray> Gog123: try asking this in #ubuntu-offtopic
[10:57] <Gog123> nexenta is essentially the same thing as ubuntu but with an opensolaris core
[10:57] <garryF> Hmmm, Not sure, but 256 memory seems low for a gui
[10:57] <nashy> I'l talk to you guys soon, I'm reinstalling now :-)
[10:57] <fyrestrtr> Gog123: ubuntu
[10:57] <debarshi> ubuntu dapper (ie 6.06) is fine
[10:57] <SpeesKeek> garryF .. i dont want gui
[10:58] <garryF> SpeesKeek Oh
[10:58] <SpeesKeek> just a text based router, proxy thing
[10:58] <debarshi> But my choice is Fedora
[10:58] <SpeesKeek> debarshi .. a red hat 7.1 isnt working well either
[10:58] <SpeesKeek> and 7.1 is quite old.. a 150mhz pc ran that
[10:59] <debarshi> what is the machine you have?
[10:59] <SpeesKeek> thu there i a prob with HW i guess of a boot option
[10:59] <SpeesKeek> debarshia pIII 800mhz 256mb ram, dell optiplex thing
[10:59] <soundray> SpeesKeek: strange, it should run well. Have you tried a floppy distribution -- tomsrtbt?
[11:00] <garryF> And he wants a command line install no gui on his debarshia p111
[11:00] <garryF> er command line os
[11:00] <debarshi> things like FC2 should work fine
[11:01] <cheeseman557> holy moly i just reformmated my hd because i thought the hd was messed up but it was the cd!
[11:01] <debarshi> I mean I have seen such machines work.
[11:01] <SpeesKeek> the install cd boots... but its taking 30minutes to come to recognizing the ide ports and stuff like that (things that taek normally spoken 3-4 secs)
[11:01] <SpeesKeek> debarshi .. ive got a much older red hat version than your fedora core thing an it isnt working either...
[11:01] <garryF> Ouch cheeseman557
[11:01] <soundray> SpeesKeek: perhaps you should get one of those tiny routers that run OpenWRT. Your investment will be returned in electricity saved within a couple of years.
[11:02] <cheeseman557> well i can finally sleep knowing it wasnt my brand new hd lol
[11:02] <garryF> Yeah.
[11:02] <panthere_noire> ouf
[11:02] <SpeesKeek> soundray ..  i dont want that.. i already HAVE those.. i need a linux server
[11:02] <soundray> cheeseman557: sr0 usually refers to optical drives.
[11:02] <garryF> On that note, its good night time for me.
[11:03] <cheeseman557> ok thanks
[11:03] <style> nie ein stream file ber smb share aufmachen
[11:03] <cheeseman557> this was a hard learnt lesson for a linux noob like me lol
[11:03] <style> ubuntu hngt sich auf :D
[11:03] <soundray> style: falscher channel
[11:03] <style> hmm
[11:03] <style> hast recht
[11:03] <style> tach
[11:03] <soundray> !de
[11:03] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[11:04] <style> eigentlich ist der gar nicht mal so schlecht der channel
[11:04] <KenSentMe> style: please talk english or leave the channel
[11:04] <style> ok
[11:04] <debarshi> SpeesKeek: are you trying to make it a server?
[11:05] <style> i have a little problem, the aiglx config tool in the taskbar is not here any more (my fault). now i cant find it anymore
[11:05] <soundray> SpeesKeek: is there something wrong in the BIOS setup perhaps? Strange memory timings?
[11:06] <debarshi> SpeesKeek, There is a guy in #fedora who is running FC5 on a PIII 500MHz.
[11:06] <SpeesKeek> debarshi yep
[11:07] <SpeesKeek> soundray .. memory tinings cant be editited in a dell bios
[11:07] <nashy> debarshi: I've fun FC 3 on a P3 501
[11:07] <SpeesKeek> i ll try a win XP install to see if there are strange things there
[11:08] <p0mtop> Hi guys, I'm having an issue with a Radeon x1600 and Dapper 6.06.
[11:08] <debarshi> nashy, thats what... I think SpeesKeek has got a different problem.
[11:09] <p0mtop> It's booting, but when it gets to GDM, it just drops to a completely blank screen.
[11:09] <p0mtop> This is using fglrx, not the default drivers that come on install. Anyone got any suggestions? :)
[11:10] <SpeesKeek> yeah i dont think it will run slow.. i run gentoo on an pIII 667 .. but the install is slow as a snail :)
[11:10] <SpeesKeek> on this pIII 800 ..
[11:10] <SpeesKeek> so i think there are boot option problems
[11:11] <soundray> p0mtop: can you switch to a text login with Ctrl-Alt-F1?
[11:11] <p0mtop> Nope, not at al.
[11:11] <p0mtop> First thing I tried actually.
[11:11] <p0mtop> Setting the driver back to vesa allows it to boot.
[11:11] <zanatta> hola
[11:11] <p0mtop> Well, to get to GDM would be more accurate.
[11:11] <soundray> p0mtop: amd64 or i386?
[11:11] <p0mtop> amd64.
[11:12] <p0mtop> Haven't attempted using the drivers directly from the ati site as yet, was next on my list after checking in here.
[11:12] <Duff> Question: I'm writing the .iso to a disc, and I set it to 1x and I made sure the disc was set to "Bootable". Am I doing everything right?
[11:12] <watson540> !es
[11:12] <nashy> Duff: You could load up the disc in something like Daemon then just copy on the fly
[11:12] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[11:13] <p0mtop> Duff, Sounds about right
[11:13] <Duff> Alright, because when I set it to "Bootable" it gave me all these options and I just left them at what they were at.
[11:13] <zanatta> y eso
[11:13] <soundray> p0mtop: have you commented out the int10 line in xorg.conf?
[11:13] <p0mtop> Er, nope.
[11:13] <p0mtop> Had no suggestions to do that.
[11:13] <zanatta> bye
[11:13] <p0mtop> One second, dropping to safe.
[11:14] <watson540> zanatta<-- #ubuntu-es
[11:14] <zanatta> que es linux
[11:14] <zanatta> ?????????????????????????????????????????????????????
[11:14] <Kismet> To let a library be load its enough to set propertly the LD_LIBRARY_PATH variable or do I have to run even ldconfig?
[11:14] <watson540> zanatta<-- #ubuntu-es
[11:15] <p0mtop> Right, rebooting with int10 commented out.
[11:15] <soundray> p0mtop: it's enough to do sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[11:15] <p0mtop> Oh, duh
[11:16] <p0mtop> I forgot about that.
[11:16] <soundray> p0mtop: oh sorry, you can't if it's frozen...
[11:16] <p0mtop> Yeah, heh.
[11:16] <p0mtop> But I could've used start instead.
[11:16] <acuster> Hey all, my external usb disk is not being recognized, where do I find info about hot-plugging?
[11:16] <p0mtop> Ok. Screen's still black, flickers every now and then.
[11:17] <soundray> p0mtop: this int10 thing is from https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI -- have you been through that page?
[11:17] <p0mtop> Ah, I've been through the top half.
[11:17] <p0mtop> Up until using the binary drivers from ati.
[11:18] <soundray> p0mtop: it's in the Notes section.
[11:18] <p0mtop> Gotcha
[11:18] <p0mtop> Xorg didn't mention that error however.
[11:18] <soundray> acuster: do you see any error messages related to plugging the drive in /var/log/syslog ?
[11:19] <p0mtop> Hrm.
[11:19] <p0mtop> Guessing using the drivers from ati.com wouldn't help.
[11:21] <p0mtop> Only other reference I can find is http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?t=447635
[11:22] <purple> quiet here
[11:22] <p0mtop> Kinda.
[11:22] <purple> hey
[11:22] <purple> whatsup?
[11:22] <p0mtop> Arguing with an amd64 and a x1600 card, heh.
[11:22] <raffy> hello ppl
[11:23] <soundray> p0mtop: is the ati driver working for you?
[11:23] <p0mtop> It was by default after install, yes.
[11:23] <acuster> soundray, yeah, lots thanks.
[11:23] <andyjeffries> Where can I find out about upcoming package version bumps?  I need a feature in PHP 5.1.3, but Ubuntu is currently on 5.1.2.  Is there an online database of packages, current live version, testing version and progress?
[11:24] <p0mtop> Here we go.
[11:24] <SpeesKeek> andyjeffries .. why dont you get the source frome php.org ?
[11:24] <p0mtop> In the latest gdm error, O'
[11:24] <p0mtop> Er.
[11:24] <p0mtop> Stupid keyboard.
[11:24] <soundray> p0mtop: so you could stick with those, or you could do an i386 install (might be better anyway, unless you want to run numbercrunching apps)
[11:24] <p0mtop> I've got "Fglrx: No matching Device section for instance (BusID PCI:1:0:1) found.
[11:24] <andyjeffries> SpeesKeek: Purely because I'm new to Ubuntu (previous Red Hat, then Gentoo user) and I'm trying to keep my system clean (only using .debs etc).
[11:25] <soundray> acuster: can you make sense of them? Paste them on http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org if not.
[11:25] <SpeesKeek> andyjeffries: i never had a ubuntu  system :p
[11:25] <dabaR> andyjeffries: there is a development version of ubuntu. /msg ubotu info php5 edgy
[11:25] <p0mtop> soundray, Nah, not really for numbercrunching. Most I'd be doing is a few python replacement strings etc.
[11:26] <afd_> hi! I've got an nvidia card on dapper and after some recent upgrades X wouldn't work anymore. I'm using nvidia-glx, and the x server error message is about some mismatch between nvidia kernel driver and x module driver. Any fixes or pointers on this issue?
[11:26] <andyjeffries> dabaR: Thanks mate, apparently Edgy is still on 5.1.2 as well though. :-(
[11:26] <p0mtop> Obviously I can keep the partition structure, heh.
[11:26] <p0mtop> I'll try that, thanks soundray :)
[11:26] <soundray> p0mtop: I'd go with i386. It's better anyway if you need Flash or Adobe Reader.
[11:26] <p0mtop> Yeah.
[11:26] <p0mtop> Flash is definitely needed.
[11:27] <dabaR> andyjeffries: nothing wrong with compiling.
[11:27] <p0mtop> The monkeying about with firefox et al for that would be painful.
[11:27] <acuster> soundray, seems like it was a few bad boots in a row from my crummy external usb case. another boot worked (with autodetect). thanks again
[11:27] <p0mtop> Thankfully my ISP is one of those who are hosting the iso download.
[11:27] <dabaR> andyjeffries: /msg ubotu compile, /msg ubotu compiling
[11:28] <soundray> acuster: any time
[11:29] <andyjeffries> dabaR: Are you talking about from an aesthetic point of view?  I want to keep my system neat (so when I upgrade to Edgy on it's release it can automatically update those packages).  Maybe my best bet might be to read how to create a .deb.  Is there an easy way to get the current Ubuntu PHP 5.1.2 .deb and update it with a new PHP 5.1.3 tarball?  I'm not used to .debs (but know I could do the same thing with RPMs or Ebuilds).
[11:29] <andyjeffries> I'm also a software developer so I'm not afraid of compiling, just dislike seemingly adhoc changes rather than going through the distributions package management system.
[11:30] <cyphase> :P
[11:30] <cyphase> maybe not a team, but it needs to be a goal
[11:30] <p0mtop> Heh. And not just add it to the end of the debconf?
[11:31] <p0mtop> Ironically I know someone with the same setup as me and it works fine apparently in kubuntu.
[11:32] <dabaR> andyjeffries: ya, if you make a checkinstall, which I believe is covered in one of the links ubotu has on compiling, you will be able to also uninstall the source-code-made package at a later time, for upgrades, say. Not the easiest way to go around maybe, with all the links necessary to let the system know to use that php, but that is what I can think of.
[11:32] <Ng> andyjeffries: if the newer version is in edgy/debian you may well be able to patch the dapper package up to the latest version, but you should be careful of what patches are already applied - it may be that dapper includes some of the latest bugfixes
[11:35] <cupworld> hi Hobbsee
[11:35] <Hobbsee> hey cupworld
[11:37] <orbin> anyone else getting this odd intermittant error message: "Error Launching Browser Window: No XBL Binding For Browser" when starting firefox?
[11:38] <dabaR> I have an issue with printing to a HP PSC 1215 on a win XP computer. I get to add the printer through the gnome-cups-add dialog, and it gets detected on the network, after entering the proper passwords for connecting to that PC. I then get to choose the printer driver, and mine is not listed. There is psc 1210, and 1200, so I tried choosing either, and the printer gets added, and says ready when the other PC and printer are on.
[11:38] <dabaR> However, I send the printer a job, which gets added to the printer q on the XP PC, and starts being printed, then hangs forever. Any clues?
[11:38] <MetaMorfoziS> how can i set , to a user only have acces to his home?
[11:38] <MetaMorfoziS> not anywhere systemfolders, /media etc
[11:38] <MetaMorfoziS> ?
[11:39] <Slavik> hi
[11:39] <biertie> hi
[11:39] <Slavik> speak czech and slovak ?
[11:39] <biertie> I have a probllem
[11:39] <biertie> I am a starter with linux
[11:39] <spikeb> !cz
[11:39] <ubotu> esk uivatele dme, aby mluvili v kanle #ubuntu anglicky. esky je mono se domluvit v #ubuntu-cz. Dkujeme.
[11:40] <biertie> yesterday, I have installed ubuntu on my windows pc (dual boot)
[11:40] <biertie> everything works great
[11:40] <biertie> exept.. my asus usb modem
[11:40] <g-nome> what is the debian menu for?
[11:41] <Slavik> ubotu dik
[11:41] <ubotu> I know nothing about dik
[11:41] <Slavik> thanx :)
[11:41] <dabaR> g-nome: it is a menu. really a left over feature noone ever cleaned up, it seems to me.
[11:41] <cyphase> stuff that's part of the song
[11:42] <g-nome> dabaR: what a bloat...
[11:42] <dabaR> g-nome: meh. Do you know how to use alacarte?
[11:42] <orbin> cyphase: new ears?
[11:42] <cyphase> lol
[11:42] <g-nome> yeah removed it
[11:42] <cyphase> it's as if it was always there
[11:42] <cyphase> but the programs i use can't play it
[11:42] <cyphase> couldn't*
[11:43] <cyphase> gsteramer update?
[11:43] <cyphase> gstreamer*
[11:43] <cyphase> meaning, from breezy to dapper
[11:43] <g-nome> orbin: how can you hide your country like this (in irc)? i want too :-)
[11:44] <nashy> hey guys
[11:45] <orbin> g-nome: request a cloak from a freenode staffer
[11:45] <dabaR> hello
[11:45] <nashy> reinstalled, still no firefox
[11:45] <eugman> So why do so many people idle here?
[11:45] <g-nome> orbin: how can i do this exactly?
[11:47] <nashy> so anyone know whats happening with Firefox?  :-(
[11:47] <orbin> g-nome: http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#helpfromstaff
[11:48] <chrisbudden14> morning
[11:48] <nashy> *still no firefox*
[11:49] <iBrood> My kuubntu installation icon wont work. can someone please help me.
[11:50] <orbin> nashy: missed the question.  did you remove it?
[11:50] <eugman> IBrood, installation icon? Could you elaborate?
[11:50] <iBrood> the icon in dapper that is support to start installing from the live cd
[11:51] <dabaR> What does the A in "i   A   hpijs - printer driver..." in aptitude stand for?
[11:51] <eugman> IBrood, what happens when you try it?
[11:51] <blo> Hi, I'm wondering if the Ubuntu package for amaroK is compiled with libvisual support.  Anyone know?
[11:51] <spike> hi there
[11:51] <iBrood> nothing, it bounces around for a while and then dissapers
[11:52] <spike> on dapper apt-get install w32codes and libdvdcss2 fail
[11:52] <spike> it says package has no available candidates
[11:52] <dabaR> spike: of course
[11:52] <spike> worked fine on my old breezy
[11:52] <iBrood> konqueror works, but after a long delay
[11:52] <diop> how do i know the version of my Xorg ?
[11:52] <KenSentMe> !multiverse > spike
[11:52] <dabaR> spike: you had external repos in your sources.list
[11:52] <Hobbsee> blo: should od, yeah
[11:52] <spike> dabaR: so I have now, the restricted repo
[11:52] <KenSentMe> !restricted > spike
[11:53] <KenSentMe> spike: check what uboto tells you
[11:53] <blo> Hobbsee: Well, is there any reason no libvisual plugins show up in amaroK for me?
[11:53] <blo> Just xmms ones... I have all the libvisual packages installed and everything
[11:53] <eugman> Sorry, iBrood. I'm not sure what to do.
[11:53] <iBrood> ok
[11:53] <dabaR> KenSentMe: neither of those packages are in multiverse, are they?
[11:53] <iBrood> I'll post it on the forums then
[11:53] <orbin> iBrood: never tried it, but can you right-click on it and view it's properties?
[11:54] <eugman> diop, you could probably look at the packages in synaptic.
[11:54] <Hobbsee> blo: do you have libvisual0.2-plugins installed?
[11:54] <Hobbsee> blo: which amarok, too?
[11:54] <iBrood> well, there's a power cut at my place so I cant use that computer now
[11:54] <iBrood> what do you want me to check though?
[11:54] <blo> Hobbsee: I have that package installed, yes... amaroK 1.3.9
[11:55] <Hobbsee> blo: weird, i dont know.  it seems to be.
[11:55] <zaya> help
[11:55] <blo> Should I purge amarok and reinstall it?
[11:55] <eugman> Zaya, Ask a question first.
[11:55] <orbin> iBrood: what command it runs.  try launching it from a terminal.  might spit out some errors.   just a stab
[11:56] <blo> Or should I find another repository that has amaroK 1.4.1 in it and try that?
[11:56] <iBrood> ok, I'll check it when the power comes back, went out a sec ago
[11:56] <eugman> Zaya, I want to help you but I need to know what your problem is.
[11:56] <Lynoure> zaya: Ubuntu is a good distro but it does not grant mindreading abilities to people using it, unfortunately :)
[11:56] <eugman> Lynoure, should i report that as a bug?
[11:56] <KenSentMe> dabaR: could be, i think he should look at the restricted page
[11:57] <zaya> thanks.  im a mexican.. i join in ubuntu-es
[11:57] <zaya> my inglish its bad.
[11:57] <zaya> thank =)
[11:57] <Lynoure> eugman: Maybe against the mindreading package. =)
[11:57] <Lynoure> zaya: good luck!
[11:58] <Healot> my spanish is bad... zaya
[11:58] <KenSentMe> dabaR: ok, thanx for the ubotu messages, but i already know them
[11:58] <zaya> =) oks thanksss.!!  Anyone knows what sites accept articles for cash?
[12:00] <carlosj> ola
[12:00] <blo> If libvisual doesn't work in amaroK installed from Ubuntu package repos (1.3.9) what should I do?
[12:00] <bony> boga, try freesoftwaremagzine or linuxjournel
[12:00] <boga> thanx
[12:00] <nashy> bony:  Its isntalled, doesn't work though
[12:00] <bony> nashy, dose it quit the movment you try to run it?
[12:01] <bony> nashy, if so try running it from the terminal
[12:01] <Lynoure> nashy: how have you tested network connectivity? And have you tried accessing various servers?
[12:01] <eugman> hmmm, nashy install links2 and then type links2 www.google.com    . That should determine if it's related specifically to that browser or not.
[12:01] <eugman> Type that into the terminal I mean.
[12:02] <fyrestrtr> you don't need to install links2
[12:02] <xanax`> hello
[12:02] <fyrestrtr> first thing you need to do, is find out if your dns is setup properly.
[12:02] <bony> xanax`, hello
[12:02] <fyrestrtr> from a terminal, type dig google.com
[12:02] <fyrestrtr> do you get a response?
[12:02] <nashy> eugman:  I have tried pinging google, and all is fine, and firefox opens my router all fine
[12:03] <eugman> Ok, so firefox is just wonky then correct?
[12:03] <nashy> fyrestrtr: as above
[12:03] <nashy> yeah.  Won't connect to the net
[12:03] <fyrestrtr> nashy: are you behind a proxy?
[12:03] <nashy> I don't believe so
[12:03] <fyrestrtr> what happens when you type wget http://www.google.com/ in a terminal window?
[12:04] <nashy> fyrestrtr: Resolving google.com... <IP_ADDRESS>         Connecting to google.com|<IP_ADDRESS>|:80...
[12:05] <fyrestrtr> ermm...
[12:05] <fyrestrtr> google.com doesn't have the ip address of <IP_ADDRESS>
[12:05] <fyrestrtr> type cat /etc/resolv.conf -- what do you see on the screen?
[12:06] <Fitzz> Can someone suggest me a software wich i could use to chat and file share over intranet?
[12:06] <fyrestrtr> Fitzz: chat Applications -> Internet -> Gaim
[12:07] <Fitzz> can ip talk on gaim?
[12:07] <Fitzz> connect inside intranet with gaim?
[12:07] <nashy> fyrestrtr: cat: /etc/resolve.conf: No such file or directory
[12:07] <eugman> Fitzz, dod you know wht protocol you need to chat on?
[12:07] <dabaR> nashy: and how does pinging work by domain names then?
[12:08] <fyrestrtr> nashy: its cat /etc/resolv.conf (no e)
[12:08] <RShadow> can somebody explain to me how I can install a piece of software, without install the dependencies? (for example I want to install mailman, but it wants to install apache. I don't want it to install apache because I already have a local build of it (I wanted 2.2 of apache) )
[12:08] <diop> how to know my material config ? graph card, HDD, processor and so on :
[12:08] <Fitzz> eugman, any protocal that doesn't require server... that i can connect to other computer if she is waiting. And i am able to share files too
[12:08] <nashy> fyrestrtr: nameserver <IP_ADDRESS>
[12:08] <dabaR> RShadow: ignore-depends
[12:08] <nashy> sorry <IP_ADDRESS>
[12:09] <nashy> which is my router
[12:09] <RShadow> dabaR, thnx
[12:09] <dabaR> RShadow: man apt-get, man dpkg
[12:09] <eugman> Fitzz, Hmm I not sure then. Keep asking.
[12:10] <kristian> Hatred, you here?
[12:10] <nashy> fyrestrtr?
[12:11] <orbin> diop: hardinfo is nice
[12:11] <fyrestrtr> nashy: now, what do you get when you type dig ubuntu.com | grep ubuntu.com. (that extra period at the end is important)
[12:11] <RShadow> dabaR, I have checked the man files for apt-get which is why I asked, because it doesn't mention it.. and ignore-depends doesn't work.
[12:12] <orbin> diop: but i usually just use some console commands
[12:12] <dabaR> RShadow: it is a dpkg option.
[12:12] <dabaR> RShadow: perhapd download all the packages that you want installed, then dpkg -i them, with ingore-depends. You are aware that you could break something like this, right?
[12:13] <nashy> fyrestrtr: Done, now what?
[12:13] <RShadow> dabaR, yes I'm aware of that, but IMHO Ubuntu has some pretty strange depends.. (for example, mutt depends on postfix). But there should be a simple way to tell apt-get to just install the software I want.. I guess I'm spoiled by emerge
[12:14] <dabaR> RShadow: not sure.
[12:15] <fyrestrtr> nashy: what did you get as a response?
[12:15] <fyrestrtr> (sorry am working on three pcs at once)
[12:15] <foxiness> can i chagne d4x to show me a speed of download with Kb or KB?
[12:16] <edgy> Hi, I put a script in /etc/cron.hourly but it seems it's not working, where can I find the log for it to track the reason?
[12:18] <foiker> hi ppl
[12:18] <KenSentMe> edgy: maybe you could look in /var/log/syslog
[12:18] <foxiness> hi foiker
[12:18] <nashy> fyrestrtr:  All sorts of stuff about blackcatnetworks, and stuff.  Everything says IN
[12:18] <Pooky> Is there a way to enable utf-8 in the local file system?
[12:18] <foiker> anyone know where the config file for totem gstreamer is? So I can change the subtitles codepage...
[12:18] <fyrestrtr> nashy: okay, now do this command dig @<IP_ADDRESS> ubuntu.com | grep ubuntu.com. -- you get the same results?
[12:19] <KenSentMe> foiker: i think the gstreamer config files are in /home/<user>/.gstreamer
[12:20] <nashy> fyrestrtr: the numbers after the .com's are different
[12:20] <foiker> KenSentMe: Been there....it doesnt exist...(I enabled hidden files)
[12:20] <nashy> other than that they are the same
[12:20] <edgy> KenSentMe: on syslog there is messages like: (root) CMD (   run-parts --report /etc/cron.hourly) but the name of my script doesn't show
[12:20] <webmind> hi
[12:20] <fyrestrtr> nashy: okay, now try this wget http://www.ubuntu.com/
[12:20] <cwillu> yay, the night is over
[12:21] <webmind> I've got a question about gscreensaver
[12:21] <KenSentMe> edgy: i don't know much about crons, it was just a thought
[12:21] <webmind> it doesn't seem to be completely functional
[12:21] <cwillu> now, who wants to help me get a printer working?
[12:21] <webmind> is that correct ?
[12:21] <cwillu> webmind: in what sense?
[12:21] <KenSentMe> cwillu: what printer?
[12:21] <webmind> cwillu, well for instance.. I've got a slideshow screen saver.. but no way to set the slides ?
[12:21] <cwillu> brother mfc3240c
[12:21] <cwillu> webmind: ah, yes
[12:21] <webmind> or any screen saver specific settings at all for that matter
[12:21] <cwillu> webmind: quite
[12:22] <webmind> so dapper now has a only partial working screensaver as default ?
[12:22] <cwillu> webmind: apparently this is by design, but yes, it's misguided
[12:22] <nashy> fyrestrtr:  same as when I did it to google.com earlier, says connecting etc. |80... and keeps flashing at me
[12:22] <webmind> cwillu, this is by -design- ??
[12:22] <edgy> KenSentMe: thx any way for the trial
[12:22] <cwillu> webmind: install xscreensaver and remove gnome-screensaver
[12:22] <cwillu> webmind: not _my_ design :p
[12:22] <webmind> cwillu, yes. I know the solustion for me
[12:22] <webmind> soltion
[12:22] <webmind> arg
[12:22] <webmind> solution
[12:22] <fyrestrtr> nashy: does it download anything?
[12:22] <cwillu> yep
[12:22] <webmind> but I'm also thinking of those loads of cluebees I try to convert
[12:23] <cwillu> I wish they hadn't done it myself;  there's also some security concerns in bringing in the extra libs used in the gnome version (screen locking)
[12:23] <spikeb> webmind: well, there's no real solution for them
[12:23] <nashy> fyrestrtr: nope
[12:23] <webmind> spikeb, any idea how this came to be ?
[12:24] <fyrestrtr> nashy: type tracepath google.com
[12:24] <spikeb> webmind: gnomescreensaver finally got accepted.
[12:24] <spikeb> webmind: that's how heh
[12:24] <fyrestrtr> see where it is hanging -- there is a problem with your router or something.
[12:24] <webmind> spikeb, but why ?
[12:24] <cwillu> webmind:  https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/gnome-screensaver/+bug/22007 might be what you're after
[12:24] <spikeb> webmind: i'm guessing because ubuntu is gnome orientated
[12:25] <cwillu> webmind: what spikeb is trying to say is that they didn't really think about the implications much  :p
[12:25] <KenSentMe> cwillu: it seems like you can download the debian/ubuntu drivers from this page: http://solutions.brother.com/linux/sol/printer/linux/cups_drivers.html and then probably you can 'sudo dpkg -i <downloaded.deb file>' to install it
[12:25] <spikeb> cwillu: basically.
[12:26] <cwillu> KenSentMe: oops, I was there, completely missed the deb file
[12:26] <cwillu> thanks
[12:26] <nashy> fyrestrtr: Now what?  It went around the world as if I did it on windows tracert, 16 - 31 no reply
[12:26] <fyrestrtr> okay we can still try some things.
[12:26] <webmind> cwillu, k
[12:27] <webmind> ok, other question.. does anyone know how to create something like an ubuntu update cd ?
[12:27] <webmind> a custom one
[12:27] <nashy> fyrestrtr: alrighty...?  Should I be scared :-p
[12:27] <whitepyro> dose ubuntu have a fire wall that might block postfix/sendmail from sending out?
[12:27] <fyrestrtr> nashy type this telnet google.com 80
[12:27] <KenSentMe> cwillu: well, it might not work, i'm now trying to install my HL2030 with the .deb, but it doesn't work properly
[12:27] <nashy> fyrestrtr: connected
[12:28] <fyrestrtr> then type this GET /index.html HTTP/1.1
[12:28] <fyrestrtr> then type Host: google.com
[12:28] <fyrestrtr> and hit enter (again)
[12:28] <foiker> can anyone at least tell me the name of the config file for gstreamer so I can search it ? its a buzzer
[12:29] <nashy> fyrestrtr: woo text google.  That worked
[12:29] <KenSentMe> foiker: maybe you find something in gconf-editor
[12:29] <fyrestrtr> you got HTTP/1.1 302 Found and all that junk from the google server?
[12:29] <nashy> sure did
[12:29] <dabaR> did he enter a proxy, by chance?
[12:29] <fyrestrtr> nashy: okay now hit ctrl and ]
[12:29] <foiker> KenSentMe: ok ty...will do r8 now
[12:30] <fyrestrtr> then at the telnet> prompt, type quit
[12:30] <nashy> done
[12:30] <fyrestrtr> nashy: there is no problem with your internet connection, and you are not using a proxy -- congratulations.
[12:30] <nashy> hoorah.  Firefox still doesn't like me though
[12:31] <fyrestrtr> okay now open up firefox
[12:31] <whitepyro> help I broke my toe!
[12:31] <nashy> firefox open at the welcome to ubuntu file
[12:32] <whitepyro> wahoo
[12:32] <fyrestrtr> nashy: what happens when you try to go to www.google.com ?
[12:33] <whitepyro> you tried reinstalling firefox?
[12:33] <nashy> it just says connecting, the after a while it will time out
[12:33] <foxiness> can i chagne d4x to show me a speed of download with Kb or KB?
[12:33] <DarkMageZ> with nautilus, where do i find the settings which tell it which files to open with which programs?
[12:34] <spikeb> DarkMageZ: right click on the file
[12:34] <whitepyro> edit -> pref -> connection settings. whats in their
[12:35] <DarkMageZ> spikeb, oh, yeah i know those ones, but i wanna change a .wma to default to totem on double click, instead of mplayer
[12:35] <shade^> Anyone have experience with sata + ata drivers and grub? I cannot seem to get grub load and therefore I cannot boot to ubuntu at all.. Sata is master with xp installation?
[12:35] <spikeb> that USED to change the default. no idea now.
[12:35] <SVisor> MOT: Which video driver should I use in Win98 (guest) with WMWare server running on Ubuntu?
[12:36] <fyrestrtr> nashy: what are your firefox settings?
[12:36] <fyrestrtr> nashy: do other things work -- like can you ... refresh the repos from synaptic, get on gaim, etc.
[12:36] <nashy> repos are fine, I'll check another thing
[12:36] <DarkMageZ> spikeb, got it :), have to goto properties in the right click menu =D
[12:37] <foiker> grrrrr cant seem to find it I'll wget totem xine..it's a pity though gstreamer work fine for me
[12:37] <MetaMorfoziS> how can i set to a user ONLY can read and modify his home?
[12:37] <foiker> at least till now
[12:37] <nashy> fyrestrtr: FF settings is selected Direct connection to the net, just like my windows laptop
[12:38] <MetaMorfoziS> how can i set to a user ONLY can read and modify his home?
[12:39] <nashy> fyrestrtr: gaim isn't connecting
[12:39] <boga> MetaMorfoziS: what are you trying to prevent?
[12:39] <foiker> MetaMorfoziS: mas douleueis ? :P
[12:39] <MetaMorfoziS> mi a faszvan?
[12:39] <cwillu> MetaMorfoziS: how do you mean?
[12:39] <MetaMorfoziS> i mean, if he logins on sftp, he only can list his home
[12:40] <MetaMorfoziS> list and modify
[12:40] <p0mtop> If I'm reading that right, I'd just make sure they're not in sudoers and any other groups that allow / access.
[12:40] <p0mtop> Ah.
[12:40] <boga> p0mtop: right on the head!
[12:41] <nashy> fyrestrtr: trying to connect to both msn and icq, neither of which work
[12:41] <p0mtop> Unless he doesn't want the user enumerating ~any~ folder other than their own.
[12:41] <p0mtop> In which case, yeah, just make sure they're not in any of the system groups.
[12:42] <p0mtop> MetaMorfoziS, Just make sure the user isn't in /etc/sudoers, and their 'groups' is something completely separate.
[12:42] <p0mtop> Might even give them their own group, just to be safe.
[12:42] <cwillu> He'll still have access to any files with 'other' permissions though
[12:42] <p0mtop> Yeah, that's my concern.
[12:42] <KenSentMe> cwillu: do you manage to get your printer installed?
[12:43] <p0mtop> I mean, I know some versions did allow to stop users jumping out of dirs.
[12:43] <cwillu> depending on the service he's logging on via, you might be able to tell it to only allow certain access, regardless of permissions
[12:43] <cwillu> KenSentMe: deb installed, printer driver hasn't shown up though;
[12:43] <p0mtop> I'd just make main folders unreadable by nonroot.
[12:43] <p0mtop> Ie, / /etc, /var.
[12:43] <KenSentMe> cwillu: the deb wasn't working correctly for me either
[12:43] <cwillu> p0mtop: that's kinda crappy though,
[12:43] <stelki> Where do I set my media player in ubuntu? (if I can change that - rhythmbox is silly)
[12:43] <p0mtop> Yah.
[12:44] <nashy> fyrestrtr: both just cancelled because of the time it was taking
[12:44] <p0mtop> It is.
[12:44] <cwillu> p0mtop: installing acl support is probably the only general solution
[12:44] <p0mtop> Yeah.
[12:44] <cwillu> but that's not exactly beginner territory
[12:44] <p0mtop> Or some form of fake root to sit the folder in.
[12:44] <cwillu> support's in the ubuntu kernel though, so it's not kernel-hacker territory either :)
[12:44] <cwillu> hmm
[12:44] <Schalken> is there anything that can be used to increase system performance?
[12:44] <cwillu> ya
[12:45] <cwillu> Schalken: is there anything that can make me run faster?
[12:45] <cwillu> better be a bit more specific :p
[12:46] <p0mtop> stelki, gstreamer-properties if you're trying to change your sound output.
[12:46] <cwillu> KenSentMe: any luck finding the ppd via locate yet?
[12:46] <Schalken> well ubuntu is running HORRIBLY slow on a pretty fast computer (celerond 64bit 3ghz, 1gb ram)
[12:46] <cwillu> I'm just updating my db to check if you haven't
[12:46] <Schalken> cwillu: see above
[12:46] <cwillu> Schalken: again, doesn't tell me much, but I'll take a guess that you might be swapping a bit aggressively
[12:46] <SVisor> Schalken: Video drivers have huge impact. What kind of video do you have?
[12:46] <cwillu> Schalken: try sudo sysctl vm.swappiness=0
[12:47] <stelki> p0mtop: not exactly, just the media player that it tries to control with my internet keyboard keys
[12:47] <cwillu> Schalken: see why I asked?  :)
[12:47] <Schalken> SVisor: onboard
[12:47] <p0mtop> Aha.
[12:47] <p0mtop> Just trying to rememer that.
[12:47] <nashy> fyrestrtr?
[12:47] <webmind> uhm.. can anyone tell me how to set the slideshow in gscreensaver ?
[12:47] <Schalken> SVisor: sis 661fx, to be specific
[12:47] <p0mtop> I think changing open-with usually does it.
[12:47] <whitepyro> ok dose ubuntu have a firewall yes/no?
[12:47] <p0mtop> whitepyro, Yes, and is locked down by default iirc.
[12:47] <fyrestrtr> nashy: reinstall firefox
[12:47] <cwillu> whitepyro: kernel has firewall support, but most linux installs don't need one
[12:48] <bezibaerchen> whitepyro: not by default. install firestartet e.g.
[12:48] <p0mtop> I recall having to open up ports, unless firestarter added a default conf.
[12:48] <cwillu> whitepyro: the linux solution is to just not run services on the internet by default;  anything beyond that is overkill for most home use
[12:48] <whitepyro> ok now I setup postfix but it keeps failing to send.. Could a firewall be blocking port 25 from sending?
[12:48] <KenSentMe> cwillu: mine was in /etc/cups/ppd/
[12:48] <nashy> fyrestrtr: How?  It won't let me remove it or anything
[12:48] <whitepyro> aka timeout
[12:48] <Schalken> cwillu: uhm, i just did 'sudo sysctl vm.swappiness=0', what did i just do?
[12:48] <KenSentMe> cwillu: but it doesn't work
[12:49] <SVisor> Schalken: No to me known trouble with that one. Except it does not have DRI support.
[12:49] <cwillu> Schalken: it tells the kernel to not swap out processes until absolutely neccessary;  if apps are hanging for a few seconds at a time, it's generally a good approach
[12:49] <cwillu> Schalken: but i still don't know if that's your problem :)
[12:49] <cwillu> KenSentMe: one sec, trying seomthing
[12:49] <Schalken> cwillu: hmm
[12:50] <DarkMageZ> Schalken, run top in a terminal, top lists processes in order of processor usage. see if anything is doing overkill =D
[12:50] <compengi> Schalken, the sis chipset is slow and it's celeron so you have 256k level 2 cash
[12:50] <p0mtop> And this is where I cross my fingers and hope that i386 works with my x1600 when amd64 didn't.
[12:50] <cwillu> Schalken: open a terminal window
[12:50] <cwillu> and do a 'locate 1'
[12:50] <Schalken> SVisor: yes im aware of the lack of dri. anything opengl runs about 0.03 frames per second or less :p
[12:50] <KenSentMe> cwillu: to get the installation of the deb to run without errors i made symlinks in /etc/init.d from cups and lpd to cupsys
[12:50] <cwillu> do the files go flying by, or are they slow?
[12:51] <cwillu> KenSentMe: does the printer work at that point though?  I didn't get any errors on the deb, but it still didn't work
[12:51] <Schalken> cwillu: flying by
[12:51] <cwillu> KenSentMe: yay for alien built debs :(
[12:51] <Schalken> cwillu: zoom
[12:51] <KenSentMe> cwillu: no
[12:51] <cwillu> Schalken: okay, doesn't sound like the vid card
[12:51] <cwillu> :/
[12:51] <whitepyro> :(
[12:52] <cwillu> KenSentMe: I'm seeing a file /usr/local/Brother/cupswrapper/cupswrapperMFC3240C-1.0.0 that refers to a ppd file internally, but the ppd file isn't anywhere
[12:52] <notme> How do I reconfigure ethernet?  I swapped my hard drive to a new computer and now ifconfig shows only lo0.
[12:52] <cwillu> Schalken: can you describe what you mean by slow?
[12:52] <whitepyro> \./
[12:52] <cwillu> notme: what about the gnome-networking tool?
[12:53] <notme> Hmm...
[12:53] <cwillu> whitepyro: are you sure your isp isn't blocking it?
[12:53] <p0mtop> Interesting.
[12:53] <whitepyro> well im not doing relay...
[12:53] <bobobogu> !repos
[12:53] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[12:53] <p0mtop> Going from breezy to dapper, my download speeds seem to have trebled.
[12:53] <whitepyro> but could my isp be blocking it even though its from sendmail module?
[12:53] <p0mtop> At least from the repo's.
[12:54] <p0mtop> whitepyro, Possibly.
[12:54] <bobobogu> !easysource
[12:54] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[12:54] <Schalken> cwillu: well its kinda the drawing. as i drag a window around the screen, it lags behind. and you can kinda see the window being drawn from top to bottom with each refresh of movement. (about 3 times a second)
[12:54] <Boglizk> How do i rename stuffs? i think i'm using the wrong parameters...
[12:54] <whitepyro> how can I change the port to test this theory?
[12:54] <p0mtop> Boglizk, Rename a file?
[12:54] <Boglizk> yeah
[12:54] <p0mtop> Boglizk, Generally mv is as good as rename if you're using a console.
[12:54] <p0mtop> So, mv oldname newname
[12:54] <Schalken> cwillu: do you know what i mean? its like its struggling to draw the window on the screen.
[12:54] <Boglizk> p0mtop, ah, thanks
[12:54] <cwillu> whitepyro: I'd almost want to check that the service is listening on an external adapter (i.e., eth0) rather than on localhost (lo)
[12:55] <whitepyro> how can i check to see if its doing that?
[12:55] <cwillu> Schalken: how do the screensaver's look?  (esp the 3d ones)
[12:55] <p0mtop> But you have to be in the same dir as the file :)
[12:55] <whitepyro> i spent 6 hrs trying to get this thing going
[12:55] <whitepyro> lol
[12:55] <bobobogu> isn't there a nice paste bin with all repos on it someware
[12:55] <bobobogu> ?
[12:55] <cwillu> whitepyro: have you looked at the conf file in /etc ?
[12:55] <cwillu> !sources.list
[12:55] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[12:55] <Frogzoo> !easysource > bobobogu
[12:55] <Schalken> cwillu: like hell. as i said everything opengl runs at a frame every couple of seconds.
[12:56] <jrib> bobobogu: paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666
[12:56] <cwillu> ah, missed that bit
[12:56] <whitepyro> theres lots of cfg's :D which should i look at..  postfix?
[12:56] <p0mtop> Yeah, postfix.
[12:56] <cwillu> ya, Schalken, vid card isn't configured right;  I'll have to hand you off to somebody who knows something about them though :)
[12:57] <whitepyro> main.cf?
[12:57] <p0mtop> I think that's the one. Don't quote me on that, haven't touched postfix in a bit.
[12:57] <whitepyro> never setup a mail thingy before :| still kinda new..
[12:57] <jrib> Schalken: what card do you have?
[12:57] <p0mtop> It's a fun experience, heh.
[12:57] <whitepyro> lol for sure
[12:57] <bobobogu> chears jrib
[12:57] <Schalken> cwillu: hmmm. maybe it better run like anything when i get my geforce 6200. but right now im trying to do some word processing and scrolling the page goes really badly. :(
[12:58] <whitepyro> especially when ur trying to program and can't cause u need to test mail
[12:58] <whitepyro> lol
[12:58] <Schalken> jrib: onboard, a sis 661fx chipset.
[12:58] <jrib> Schalken: oh, don't know about those
[12:58] <foxiness> if am using proxy and put it on "Network Proxy" is that will be wide use "on GUI app ,CLI app like wget" or not?
[12:58] <whitepyro> localhost.localdomain type stuff
[12:59] <p0mtop> Ok.
[12:59] <p0mtop> Here we are.
[12:59] <Schalken> whats the command to reconfigure your xorg configure thingo?
[12:59] <cwillu> KenSentMe: see if you can find a ppd file (printer cd, windows machine that it works on, etc), and use that in the gnome add-printer dialog
[12:59] <cwillu> Schalken: what type of mb?
[12:59] <p0mtop> inet_interfaces in main.cf whitepyro.
[12:59] <notme> Schalken: dexconf
[12:59] <jrib> Schalken: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[12:59] <p0mtop> Is that specified at all?
[12:59] <whitepyro> yes
[12:59] <foxiness> can i change d4x to show me the speed of download by KB or kb?
[01:00] <whitepyro> set to all
[01:00] <Frogzoo> !xorg
[01:00] <ubotu> x is the X Window System; it's the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart (GNOME), sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart (KDE) To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[01:00] <whitepyro> i followed the ubuntu server tutorial for the last 2 hrs lol
[01:00] <intelligi> My Java Runtime Environment isn't working, and I did everything it said to do on the webpage.
[01:00] <Schalken> cwillu: gigabyte sis 661fx chipset with DDR400
[01:00] <p0mtop> Ok.
[01:00] <Frogzoo> Schalken: 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg'
[01:00] <Schalken> jrib: yeah thats the one. thanks.
[01:01] <p0mtop> So it's listening on all interfaces.
[01:01] <whitepyro> it would seem so
[01:01] <jrib> intelligi: what do you mean by "isn't working" exactly?
[01:01] <jrib> Schalken: np, gl with your card
[01:01] <whitepyro> connection timed out (port 25)
[01:01] <p0mtop> Alright, open up /etc/services
[01:01] <whitepyro> thats all it keeps spamming in mail.log
[01:01] <intelligi> Firefox doesn't recongize it.
[01:02] <whitepyro> permission denied..
[01:02] <whitepyro> grr
[01:02] <p0mtop> Er, sudo gedit /etc/services
[01:02] <whitepyro> nano works
[01:02] <whitepyro> just tried that
[01:02] <whitepyro> :D
[01:02] <harry> is there a google earth for ubuntu??
[01:02] <cyphase>  GtkStatusIcon, a cross-platform "tray icon" API
[01:02] <cyphase>  GtkAssistant, a widget for creating multi-step wizards
[01:02] <jrib> intelligi: what does 'apt-cache policy sun-java5-plugin | grep -i Installed' say?
[01:02] <cyphase> new in GTK 2.10
[01:03] <cyphase> GTK+*
[01:03] <CVirus> what is the alternate edition ?
[01:03] <cwillu> CVirus: text mode install in case the livecd doesn't work properly
[01:03] <bezibaerchen> habtool: version on earth.google.com works
[01:03] <intelligi> Unable to locate.
[01:03] <whitepyro> huge list in here :D
[01:03] <Schalken> brb
[01:03] <harry> is there a google earth for ubuntu??
[01:03] <cyphase> yes
[01:04] <matusbraga> Amule closed alone!!! what i do?
[01:04] <Frogzoo> harry: http://blog.mypapit.net/2006/06/google-earth-on-ubuntu-dapper-video.html
[01:04] <bezibaerchen> habtool: version on earth.google.com works
[01:04] <jrib> intelligi: try to prepend my name to your response so I don't miss it in the traffic.  What webpage did you follow?
[01:04] <CVirus> cwillu: Thanks
[01:04] <cwillu> np
[01:04] <p0mtop> whitepyro, looking for smtp.
[01:04] <whitepyro> smtp 25/tcp mail
[01:05] <whitepyro> no desc :D
[01:05] <p0mtop> If I'm right, it should be a case of changing that port.
[01:05] <foxiness> bezibaerchen, not habtool harry
[01:05] <p0mtop> Use something other than 25, 80, etc.
[01:05] <whitepyro> how do i change port.. grr
[01:05] <bezibaerchen> foxiness: yeah fixed it, too much use of "tab" :-P
[01:05] <intelligi> jrib: I followed the one that tries to auto-install the plugin for Firefox but fails, by clicking on the manual button. Then I installed the stuff in that webpage. I put it in the /usr/local folder and created a link to it in the mozilla-firefox/plugins folder.
[01:05] <p0mtop> Just change the 25 bit :)
[01:05] <foxiness> bezibaerchen, haha
[01:05] <foiker> grrrrrrrrrrrrr some 'ol with vlc too......ppl I'm desperate. I googled it, searched locally. Spare me, anyone knows how to change the codepage for subtitles in totem gstreamer ?
[01:06] <jrib> intelligi: did you try the wiki instructions?  (which basically tell you to install sun-java5-plugin)
[01:06] <intelligi> No.
[01:06] <jrib> !java > intelligi
[01:07] <whitepyro> i gotta find that in a CFG
[01:07] <whitepyro> D:
[01:07] <foiker> well which one :) thatz the case
[01:07] <p0mtop> Heh, I'm not familiar with postfix sorry whitepyro.
[01:07] <p0mtop> But the service will listen on what's spec'ed in /etc/services
[01:08] <intelligi> jrib: Couldn't find package sun-java5-jre
[01:08] <p0mtop> And woot. I have 3d accell working now.
[01:08] <whitepyro> nope not that cfg
[01:08] <foiker> intelligi: Repositories
[01:08] <jrib> intelligi: you need to enable multiverse
[01:08] <Warbo> !multiverse
[01:08] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[01:08] <intelligi> I have.
[01:08] <intelligi> Which packages?
[01:09] <Warbo> intelligi: Search for java in synaptic or aptitude
[01:09] <ynef> intelligi: apt-cache search sun :)
[01:09] <jrib> intelligi: make sure you have dapper multiverse, not just dapper-backports multiverse.  You can paste the contents of your /etc/apt/sources.list on http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ and give us a URL afterwards, if you still can't find the package
[01:09] <intelligi> There is tons of crap. Which one?
[01:09] <ynef> intelligi: sorry, search for jre :)
[01:10] <jrib> intelligi: sun-java5-plugin is all you need, it'll pull in the jre
[01:10] <jrib> sun-java5-bin is the jre package I believe
[01:10] <Warbo> I intalled them all (but not -doc because it needs a bit of setting up)
[01:12] <Pickle_Weasel> i know i'm a bit late on this bandwagon, but where would i find the instructions to upgrade from 5.10 to 6.06?
[01:12] <whitepyro> ah..
[01:12] <whitepyro> i have to edit /etc/services i think :|
[01:12] <jrib> !upgrade > Pickle_Weasel
[01:12] <Warbo> !upgrade
[01:12] <ubotu> Upgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade  Upgrading to Ubuntu 6.06 Dapper -> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperUpgrades  Note: gksudo "update-manager -d" always updates to the latest development version.
[01:12] <Pickle_Weasel> thanks, i forgot all about the bot, it's been a while
[01:12] <intelligi> I don't see any sun-java thing in Synaptic.
[01:12] <jrib> intelligi: then pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list
[01:12] <Warbo> intelligi: Check Settings>Repositories and make sure the top one has multiverse ticked
[01:13] <pl_ice> hi guys :) any one can tell me how to install ubuntu from floppies? can't find info on the net, my server won't boot from CD ... :(
[01:13] <matusbraga> Amule closed alone!!! what i do?
[01:13] <TheDevil> hi all... wanna ask a question. i've looked for this but can't seem to find the answer... should i fire away?
[01:13] <Warbo> matusbraga: What exactly do you mean?
[01:13] <jrib> TheDevil: go for it
[01:13] <pl_ice> fire :)
[01:13] <ynef> pl_ice: I doubt you can do that -- if you can't find any info, check out debian
[01:13] <intelligi> Warbo: I have everything clicked. There is no sun-java5.
[01:14] <Warbo> intelligi: Dump your /etc/apt/sources.list into a pastebin then :)
[01:14] <Warbo> !pastebin
[01:14] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[01:14] <ynef> intelligi: I don't think that multiverse is "clickable" by default -- pastebin it
[01:14] <pl_ice> yeh, i don't really want BSD on it ;) how bout if i can drop the system on the HD then install? any chance of that?
[01:15] <KenSentMe> pl_ice: i thought it was possible to start the installation from floppy, one moment
[01:15] <pl_ice> thnx
[01:15] <intelligi> How do I pull that up on the terminal? /etc/apt/sources.lis?
[01:15] <ynef> intelligi: cat /etc/apt/sources.list
[01:15] <TheDevil> cheers. ok i've got 2 hard disks. on the primary master theres win2k, xp and 2 more partitions that host data all NTFS... on my primary slave theres win2k3 server as "/hdb1" and theres data as "/hdb2"... now ubuntu is sitting on this second disk and during the installation i chose NOT to install GRUB into MBR... this is cause it kept stuffing up everything so that i had to fixmbr with win cd.... anyway
[01:15] <Warbo> pl_ice: In my experience, to boot a drive which the BIOS (or whatever) doesn't like then you need the right drivers in a kernel on a bootable device. I have not got a Linux kernel from Ubuntu to fit on a floppy though (I boot my USB drive from a CD)
[01:15] <ruxpin_> where are the 'denied users' saved?
[01:15] <AlexC> Hey, what do this error mean when I go to compile GimpShop checking for XML::Parser... configure: error: XML::Parser perl module is required for intltool
[01:16] <TheDevil> i chose to install GRUB onto a floppy...
[01:16] <fyrestrtr> AlexC: means you need to install XML::Parser
[01:16] <TheDevil> its all working fine...
[01:16] <pl_ice> Warbo yeh, i can boot linux from a floppy, but then i just start the installation from a CD?
[01:16] <fyrestrtr> intelligi: a better way is grep ^deb /etc/apt/sources.list
[01:16] <AlexC> fyrestrtr, I gathered, but when I search for XML::Parser I get nothing.
[01:16] <ruxpin_> TheDevil: why won't you use GRUB?
[01:16] <TheDevil> i wish to duplicate that floppy... can't be too sure with floppy!!!!
[01:17] <KenSentMe> pl_ice: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall check there and follow the link to booting from floppy. It should work
[01:17] <TheDevil> i do use grub... but i chose to install it on a floppy
[01:17] <TheDevil> not the MBR
[01:17] <ruxpin_> TheDevil: why?
[01:17] <intelligi> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17154
[01:17] <pl_ice> thnx :) can't wait to run that old HP server :D
[01:17] <fyrestrtr> AlexC: maybe you need this libxml-parser-perl - Perl module for parsing XML files
[01:17] <TheDevil> i've had many experiences where it will not load anything
[01:17] <Warbo> pl_ice: The kernel I have put on my CD is the actual kernel I run my system from, so it is pretty big (and the initrd.img is about 8MB). I don't know if you can use one kernel to boot another
[01:17] <TheDevil> GRUB hangs with random errors such as error 22 and 15
[01:17] <AlexC> fyrestrtr, thanks =)
[01:17] <TheDevil> etc
[01:18] <KenSentMe> pl_ice: the link to the grub boot floppy is not working, check this one https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto/BootFloppy
[01:18] <TheDevil> anyway i wanna copy the boot disk... but it wont let me...
[01:18] <cyphase> if we take openoffice off the install cd and include something smaller..
[01:18] <ruxpin_> TheDevil: put in another floppy and write the mbr on that
[01:18] <cyphase> what else could we fit on it?
[01:18] <ruxpin_> TheDevil: and copy /boot
[01:18] <ynef> TheDevil: dd if=/dev/fd0 of=backup.img bs=1440 count=1 will copy the floppy to a file, which you can then write to several other floppies if you need (same command, reverse parameters "if" and "of")
[01:18] <intelligi> Here it is: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17154
[01:18] <Awesome-o2000> how hard is it to compile progs from source in ubuntu?
[01:18] <Warbo> TheDevil: To duplicate a floppy just do "dd if=/dev/fd0 of=/home/whatever/floppy.img" to get an image of it, then reverse the if and of with a new floppy in the drive to create a duplicate
[01:18] <TheDevil> ynef!! cool
[01:19] <TheDevil> cheers everyone!
[01:19] <KenSentMe> !compile
[01:19] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for a pre-built package first!)
[01:19] <Warbo> Dammit, too late :)
[01:19] <TheDevil> i was just using the GUI to auto mount and it wouldnt display the contents... not in windows or linux
[01:19] <ynef> Warbo: well, yours is probably better :)
[01:19] <Awesome-o2000> say for instance I wanted a few things to be a bit gentoo-like - tvtime, mplayer,etc would I have problems compiling these apps in ubuntu?
[01:19] <pl_ice> KenSentMe yeh, that should do it :/ as long as i boot the thing :) thnx
[01:19] <ynef> TheDevil: do Warbo's version
[01:19] <TheDevil> hopefully the dd will work... cheers
[01:19] <jrib> Awesome-o2000: nope
[01:19] <Warbo> ynef: I always use bs=512, I don't know if it is better or what
[01:19] <TheDevil> ok will do thanks ... kudos to all!
[01:20] <polpak> Awesome-o2000: though you probably don't need to compile
[01:20] <jrib> Awesome-o2000: although I don't know what you mean by 'gentoo-like' :P
[01:20] <KenSentMe> pl_ice: no problem, tell me if it worked
[01:20] <KenSentMe> !comile > Awesome-o2000
[01:20] <ubotu> I know nothing about comile
[01:20] <intelligi> Did you guys forget about me?
[01:20] <polpak> Awesome-o2000: most of these packages are in universe
[01:20] <KenSentMe> !compile > Awesome-o2000
[01:20] <Awesome-o2000> jrib, I mean downloading source packages instead of precompiled binaries and being able to compile them myself
[01:20] <Awesome-o2000> jrib, I dont want to do it with everything, just the kernel and some apps
[01:20] <jrib> Awesome-o2000: yep, 'apt-get source packagename' will get you the source package
[01:21] <pl_ice> oh, another question, just now my HD is failing, not sure what is it, eg. power failure, is there a bootable program that can check my motherboard etc? my linux box just freezes, no logs nothing, or jumps to safe cli :/
[01:21] <fyrestrtr> Awesome-o2000: why would you want to do that, unless there was some dire reason such as --- you desperately need a newer version of something.
[01:21] <whitepyro> sob..
[01:21] <AaSFi> should i change the identifier for Display device where it says Default Screen (there are 2 display devices) in order to use the propietary ati driver?
[01:21] <AaSFi> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17153
[01:21] <AaSFi> thats my xorg.conf
[01:21] <Warbo> intelligi: You don't have multiverse enabled
[01:21] <ynef> Awesome-o2000: do that, but make sure to put them in a package so you can remove them in a controlled fashion -- use checkinstall if you don't want to learn how to make debian packages by hand
[01:21] <Awesome-o2000> fyrestrtr, I usually only do it when there is a fecal bug in a program
[01:21] <intelligi> How do I enable it?
[01:21] <Warbo> intelligi: I will edit your list and paste it back........
[01:21] <fyrestrtr> pl_ice: boot from the cd and run memtest
[01:21] <Awesome-o2000> ynef, thats what im asking - I can use those sources I d/l to build .deb packages
[01:22] <pl_ice> yeh, but that's just memory test, i've done that
[01:22] <fyrestrtr> Awesome-o2000: i think you should spend some time reading the manual page for dpkg
[01:22] <fyrestrtr> pl_ice: are you sure your computer isn't overheating?
[01:22] <pl_ice> fyrestrtr unless it's got more attribs in it :)
[01:22] <intelligi> Oh, I understand now. You have to edit it to enable it.
[01:23] <Warbo> intelligi: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17155
[01:23] <Awesome-o2000> fyrestrtr, I think I just wanted to find out the situation with ubuntu, rather than reading a gigantic overblown manual for something I might not ever use.
[01:23] <ynef> Awesome-o2000: yep -- plenty of info on that on the internet. download the source, and when you're about to type "make install", just type "checkinstall" instead (provided you've installed that program) -- you'll get a package that you can remove using synaptic
[01:23] <pl_ice> fyrestrtr neh, it's cool, i got 2 hd, one for system, from time to time, it's just halts access to the hda, bang, freezes the system, or sometimes it's just can't access some blocks :D
[01:23] <Awesome-o2000> ynef, a .deb package?
[01:23] <fyrestrtr> Awesome-o2000: well, ubuntu by default doesn't even have the build tools (like make) installed -- because its not really geared towards people that tend to compile things by hand (there is gentoo for that).
[01:23] <ynef> Awesome-o2000: yeah, checkinstall can make slackware-ish tar.gz, RPM and DEB
[01:24] <Boglizk> Does anyone have any suggestions of low-resource themes and stuffs which will make my computer run faster?
[01:24] <fyrestrtr> Awesome-o2000: first thing you would do is, install the build-essential package, that will give you the basic toolchain (ld, make, gcc etc)
[01:24] <Awesome-o2000> fyrestrtr, do me a favor - dont respond to any more of my posts.
[01:24] <Warbo> ynef: So checkinstall is fixed in the repos? I know it was broken a while ago so I installed a package I found in the forums
[01:24] <ynef> Boglizk: do you need to use Gnome/KDE? if not, changing to a window manager like blackbox will make your computer fly :)
[01:24] <fyrestrtr> Boglizk: install fluxbox
[01:24] <ynef> Warbo: I wasn't aware that it was broken -- what's wrong with it?
[01:24] <Awesome-o2000> I appreciate the effort but its entirely misguided; whatever it is you're trying to accomplish isnt working.
[01:24] <foxiness> i want to twike wget to do unlimited resume and short peried when try to access to the server
[01:24] <Boglizk> I'm a linux newbie, a window manager would be prefered
[01:25] <cowa> i think xubuntu is for slow systems...
[01:25] <jrib> Boglizk: you can use xubuntu instead or set /apps/metacity/general/reduced_resources in 'gconf-editor'
[01:25] <SonicChao> Why when I change my desktop picture, it doesn't say the same on the next boot?
[01:25] <pl_ice> Boglizk what system u got? :)
[01:25] <ynef> Boglizk: try to install the xbuntu-desktop meta package
[01:25] <Warbo> ynef: It couldn't make files and stuff, so it just aborted (no, it wasn't a permission problem, it was a commonly known problem)
[01:25] <intelligi> What is the delete command in the terminal?
[01:25] <Boglizk> I have a 399mhz with 192mb ram
[01:25] <fyrestrtr> intelligi: rm
[01:25] <cyphase> What does everyone think of having an ubuntu-desktop-expanded package that installs more programs alongside ubuntu-desktop?
[01:25] <FCTE> Build a new PC :)
[01:25] <Awesome-o2000> not trying to be jerky here but I use gentoo on my personal box and ubuntu on my servers
[01:26] <Boglizk> FCTE,  no money
[01:26] <Awesome-o2000> Im aware of what the distros are
[01:26] <ynef> Warbo: that's really dumb :( I don't know what version is in the repos, no -- sad bug
[01:26] <fyrestrtr> Awesome-o2000: so do I, what's your point?
[01:26] <cyphase> maybe even in main
[01:26] <cwillu> KenSentMe: any luck?
[01:26] <pl_ice> yeh, fluxbox or something like that, i had laptop similar to urs, worked ok :) with that one
[01:26] <Warbo> ynef: I would test it, but obviously my version works :)
[01:26] <ynef> Awesome-o2000: you can also check out the project called apt-build :)
[01:26] <jrib> Warbo: yeah it was broken a few weeks before dapper release, but checkinstall was fixed
[01:26] <Boglizk> Fluxbox or X-whatever ?
[01:26] <whitepyro> I QUIT!
[01:26] <whitepyro> my god
[01:27] <Warbo> jrib: OK, cheers. Now I can recommend it to people again :)
[01:27] <FCTE> I know people swear by blackbox
[01:27] <Awesome-o2000> fyrestrtr, my point is that comments like <fyrestrtr> Awesome-o2000: i think you should spend some time reading the manual page for dpkg  <---- worthless.
[01:27] <ynef> Warbo: what version is that? my number is 1.5.3
[01:27] <SonicChao> When I change my desktop background, why won
[01:27] <Awesome-o2000> ynef, apt-build sounds interesting
[01:27] <ticki> Morning Everyone. I' m new to Ubuntu. I would like to change the out for the Grub Loader. `grub help` doesn't help much. Does anybody know how to do this. thanks
[01:27] <fyrestrtr> Awesome-o2000: you are the one wanting to know about turning stuff into .deb -- that's one tool you'll need to know about.
[01:27] <SonicChao> 't it stay the same on next boot?*
[01:27] <pl_ice> Boglizk google it, c if i can find it, a list of Xes for old systems
[01:27] <cyphase> i.e. a feed reader, tomboy, beagle, f-spot, some games, etc
[01:27] <polpak> whitepyro: did you ask a question?
[01:27] <cwillu> Awesome-o2000: there are source file debs that build and install the package from source;  I think that's about what you're looking for
[01:27] <Warbo> ynef: 1.6.0-1
[01:27] <cyphase> xchat-gnome :)
[01:27] <Awesome-o2000> fyrestrtr, thats lovely. isnt support burnout a bitch?
[01:28] <ynef> Awesome-o2000: yeah, doesn't it? :) I've never used it, but I checked it out when I went from gentoo to the debian world ;)
[01:28] <Awesome-o2000> cwillu, nice
[01:28] <[gijoe] > ticki: sudo vi /boot/grub/menu.lst
[01:28] <ynef> Warbo: ah, well, that *is* newer :)
[01:28] <cwillu> Awesome-o2000: also, if you end up doing any ./configure&make&make install stuff, check out checkinstall
[01:28] <ticki> thanks gijoe
[01:28] <cyphase> avahi
[01:28] <pl_ice> shit :/ i just run HD test on laptop, couse new ubuntu states that logical errors are present, and the HD is good :(
[01:28] <Awesome-o2000> ynef, Im frightened - I really do love gentoo, I doubt i'll leave it on this box, but you can pretty much say bye bye to windows. Ubuntu is really nice and I love the community.
[01:28] <Boglizk> jrib, where is this "/apps/metacity/general/reduced_resources" ?
[01:29] <cwillu> Awesome-o2000: you run it instead of 'make install', and it launches it itself, monitoring what it does, and packages a binary deb of the result that you can then install (and uninstall)
[01:29] <pl_ice> i hate computers ... :(
[01:29] <jrib> Boglizk: run 'gconf-editor' in a terminal
[01:29] <Awesome-o2000> I even have xubuntu on my old p266mmx laptop
[01:29] <Boglizk> ah..
[01:29] <Awesome-o2000> cwillu, is it configurable - I dont know how well I can do without emerge
[01:29] <cwillu> Awesome-o2000: also, Ignore is a wonder irc feature :p
[01:29] <Awesome-o2000> I really love emerge
[01:29] <Heda> hi all - my usb won't detect drives - it detects mouse and keyboard but nothing else
[01:29] <SonicChao> Can I get some help?
[01:30] <Awesome-o2000> cwillu, nah - he isnt trying to be malicious.
[01:30] <ranok> SonicChao, ask
[01:30] <cwillu> Awesome-o2000: I can't say I've done much at all with gentoo
[01:30] <Warbo> I set someone up with Debian last week with E16 (had to fit in 700MB, so Ubuntu's advantages over Debian were basically lost). Works quite well with a crappy bootup script I made
[01:30] <ynef> Heda: plug something in, wait a couple of seconds and see what the last lines of output from the command "dmesg" is
[01:30] <pl_ice> Heda probably u have to mount them by hand, check the logs, it should find all things
[01:30] <Awesome-o2000> if he told me to rm -rf / I'd ignore him
[01:30] <cwillu> !help
[01:30] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage
[01:30] <SonicChao> ranok: Already did, I asked why when I change my desktop background, it doesn't stay the same on the next boot
[01:30] <Awesome-o2000> if he just isnt any better at answering questions than I am at asking them I can hardly fault the guy.
[01:31] <cwillu> Awesome-o2000: :p;  I'd be surprised if you couldn't tweak compile settings, although I think 'not breaking stuff' is generally considered higher priority than "best possible performance"
[01:31] <Heda> pl_ice: its weird because it automounted then last night but now its not even showing then in /dev
[01:31] <pl_ice> SonicChao random desktop image?
[01:31] <ranok> SonicChao, hmmmmmm
[01:31] <cwillu> :p
[01:31] <SonicChao> pl_ice: It turns a brownish colour.
[01:31] <whitepyro> screw port 25 CHANGE!!
[01:31] <Warbo> SonicChao: Are you using Nautilus for your desktop background? (I don't and I end up with brown image as well)
[01:32] <pl_ice> SonicChao yeh,i had that one, did u by any chance use program for random images on desktop? they don't work, and u left with brown screen :D
[01:32] <ynef> Heda: so how about that dmesg output?
[01:32] <Heda> nothing zip zilch
[01:32] <SonicChao> pl_ice: No, I just tried Ubuntu Yesterday
[01:32] <Awesome-o2000> cwillu, thats the problem - what drove me to gentoo was the random bugs found in precompiled binaries. I have a real problem just waiting for devs to compile a fixed version - I havent found that people are really hot on doing heavy development work for no pay for short, bitchy Jews like myself.
[01:32] <fyrestrtr> god xgl is so loverly -- all my colleagues want me to install it on their machines. I'm like -- nope -- because then I'll be flooded with -- what happened to IE? Where is Outlook? type support calls.
[01:32] <pl_ice> Heda reboot :D
[01:32] <SonicChao> pl_ice: I did move the image after I put it on, can this be a problem?
[01:32] <Warbo> I use E16 and it starts with brown desktop image until E has finished loading, then it uses the right image
[01:32] <cwillu> whitepyro: silly question, but which package are you using again?
[01:32] <Warbo> SonicChao: Yes
[01:32] <whitepyro> postfix?
[01:32] <cwillu> fyrestrtr: ie4linux to the rescue :p
[01:32] <ranok> SonicChao, yeah, if it can't find it, it'll be a plain color
[01:32] <pl_ice> SonicChao then it can't find the image, just drop a new one in
[01:32] <Heda> i tried to restart hald but to no effect - will i try a full blown cold yeah ?
[01:33] <whitepyro> connection timed out (port 25).
[01:33] <whitepyro> sigh
[01:33] <Boglizk> So... how do i change from GNOME to XFCE?
[01:33] <fyrestrtr> whitepyro: might be blocked?
[01:33] <edgy> Hi, If I put any script in /etc/cron.hourly it won't run. can any one confirm this please?
[01:33] <Warbo> SonicChao: Files are loaded into memory while they are used, so you can delete a song you are listening to without it stopping, but trying to load it again won't work.  I cannot wait to migrate. I just want to make sure I have direct rendering in both apps and the desktop
[01:33] <ynef> Boglizk: if it's installed, all you need to do is click on the "Options" on the login screen, choose Session and switch to the XFCE session
[01:33] <SonicChao> Warbo: Okay thanks, didn't realize that, sorry
[01:33] <fyrestrtr> whitepyro: where? for what?
[01:33] <Heda> pl_ice: lol - ok i'll give it a bash
[01:33] <Heda> cheers
[01:34] <Boglizk> ynef, ohh... its that simple? cool
[01:34] <fyrestrtr> Awesome-o2000: surely, you have heard of kororaa right?
[01:34] <ynef> Boglizk: :)
[01:34] <whitepyro> since port 25 is timing out gonna try a diff port see if it works.   I have the xgl livecd here. I have an nvidia 6800gs 512mb agp
[01:35] <cwillu> whitepyro:  what I just said to fyrestrtr
[01:35] <HackerX> How does one go about getting help?
[01:35] <Warbo> Awesome-o2000: Erm, stable? Gentoo?
[01:35] <fyrestrtr> Awesome-o2000: is that a high end card? don't know my way around these model numbers. The ram is impressive though.
[01:35] <Awesome-o2000> im pretty sure Xgl will be the death of windows
[01:35] <Warbo> HackerX: Ask
[01:35] <spatieman> good morning.. :)
[01:35] <SonicChao> What is all the hype about XGL?
[01:35] <Ng> HackerX: ask a question, if someone can help you, they will
[01:35] <SonicChao> And what is XGL??
[01:35] <cwillu> whitepyro: are you sure it's not binding to a particular _address_ either?  (<IP_ADDRESS>/16 or something?)
[01:35] <HackerX> Ok
[01:35] <jrib> HackerX: just ask your question, if someone knows they'll answer
[01:35] <Warbo> !xgl
[01:35] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[01:35] <Ng> chat about xgl would be better in #ubuntu-offtopic
[01:35] <Awesome-o2000> Warbo, absolutely - ive got better stability out of windows than out of any other distro
[01:36] <cwillu> whitepyro: also, are you restarting the daemons after you change config?
[01:36] <whitepyro> yes
[01:36] <cwillu> (sudo'ing as neccessary)
[01:36] <whitepyro> postfix stop then restart then reload
[01:36] <whitepyro> :|
[01:36] <Awesome-o2000> sorry out of gentoo
[01:36] <FCTE> I don't gget the hype either, it's useless eyecandy at the cost of many resources
[01:36] <Awesome-o2000> I was going to say I have to go take a windows
[01:36] <Awesome-o2000> :)) brb
[01:36] <zoolander> salutare!
[01:36] <fyrestrtr> FCTE: its to show capabilities of advanced desktops, and its not just eye candy.
[01:36] <cwillu> ooo, brb;  download finished :)
[01:36] <whitepyro> maybe reboot?
[01:37] <zoolander> cineva din romania care ma poate ajuta ?
[01:37] <Warbo> FCTE: I don't like it that Compiz has all of these features. It would be better to make them independant like Composite, so any WM can use them
[01:37] <fyrestrtr> FCTE: for example, hit F12 on XGL enabled desktop to see all your open windows on one screen = great productivity enhancer.
[01:37] <foiker> guys come on spare me ...I cant believe my luck.....Isnt there any config file for totem gstreamer ?
[01:37] <HackerX> Ubuntu says that it sees my wireless device in my laptop and i enter my ssid for the network then it activates the device and say device active yet i have no network/net and the network is set to LO mode what should i do? Thanks
[01:37] <ranok> who here likes ATC?
[01:37] <FCTE> it's still buggy and not worth risking your xserver
[01:37] <fyrestrtr> air traffic control?
[01:37] <ranok> yeah
[01:38] <jrib> foiker: ~/.gnome2/totem_config
[01:38] <fyrestrtr> I do, why?
[01:38] <FCTE> I like stability more than eyecandy
[01:38] <foiker> jrib: doesnt exist
[01:38] <anzio_> Anyone here know about the Rockwell/Riptide Soundcard-Modems and how to get Ubuntu to recognize them? hcfpcimodem doesn't seem to work
[01:38] <meowmix> I downloaded a firefox icon, it's on my desktop now.  I'm trying to paste it into the same folder as the default firefox icon.  It won't let me.  Why, and how can I?
[01:38] <fyrestrtr> FCTE: well its still in alpha/beta mode -- so give it a few months.
[01:38] <HackerX> i ment Ubuntu says its in lo mode
[01:38] <jrib> foiker: make a config change to totem and see if it gets created
[01:38] <SonicChao> HackerX: I had a similar problem, the best solution is too hook up your computer with a Ethernet Cable
[01:38] <Warbo> FCTE: I like useful WM features rather than Metacity-like WM with wobbly stuff
[01:38] <whitepyro> is there a way to dump logs and have them blank? ;D
[01:38] <Awesome-o2000> I like stability AND eyecandy. when Xgl is stable, windows is FUXXED
[01:38] <HackerX> ok
[01:38] <HackerX> but
[01:38] <FCTE> wobbly makes me sea sick
[01:38] <FCTE> :)
[01:38] <peter07> how can I run quicktime movies ( H264 Codec ) ??
[01:39] <cwillu> anybody see that new desktop metaphor vid on reddit a few weeks back?
[01:39] <foiker> jrib: you lost me there :) can you rephrase plz ?
[01:39] <SonicChao> HackerX: But...?
[01:39] <Warbo> !restricted
[01:39] <ubotu> For lots of multimedia issues this page has the useful information you want: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  see also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - Please use free formats: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[01:39] <Awesome-o2000> I showed Xgl to some of my windows pals and they said when its stable I can replace windows on their box
[01:39] <fyrestrtr> !restrictedformats > peter07
[01:39] <cwillu> icons on the desktop were manipulated like paper
[01:39] <cwillu> looked really impressive, although it was running on xp :/
[01:39] <HackerX> im almost positve it will work with ether but is it possible to get wireless working? it really bothers me not to have wireless
[01:39] <Awesome-o2000> theres hardly any linux games, this is a bummer
[01:39] <anzio_> !hcfpcimodem
[01:39] <ubotu> I know nothing about hcfpcimodem
[01:39] <Awesome-o2000> and cedega blows a gigantic goat
[01:39] <anzio_> !rockwell
[01:39] <ubotu> I know nothing about rockwell
[01:39] <jrib> foiker: go to totem's preferencs and change something, then see if the file exists afterwards
[01:39] <ynef> cwillu: was that the one where they didn't have file names, so you were supposed to look at each and every Word document until you found the one you needed? pass!
[01:40] <SonicChao> HackerX: why does it bother you?
[01:40] <Dr4g> Anyone ever had the problem - of booting up live-desktop-cd.. and it start crashing while loading the GUI up to click "install"
[01:40] <Dr4g> -
[01:40] <Warbo> Awesome-o2000: There are loads of the kind I like, that is simple little puzzles and gravity game type things
[01:40] <foiker> jrib: thankz...:)
[01:40] <FCTE> Unreal Tournament 2004, Quake and Doom all run natively
[01:40] <dave__> can anyone help me ive got a weird problem with firefox on xubuntu, it keeps closing itself when opening bit-tech.net :-S
[01:40] <Awesome-o2000> not to mention im not exactly stoked on the concept of being considered a know nothing douchebag again
[01:40] <polpak> Awesome-o2000: wine is pretty good for some things (blizzard & other openGL games) and most FPS's run native
[01:40] <fyrestrtr> hey, tuxracer > *
[01:40] <cwillu> ynef: I was assuming that served the same purpose as the 1024x1024 icons on the demo mac osx desktops
[01:40] <Warbo> I found out about Enigma the other day, it's pretty cool
[01:40] <FCTE> tux kart :)
[01:40] <Awesome-o2000> polpak, no, they DONT run native anymore. I am SO po'd about ArmyOps
[01:40] <foiker> still no totem_config file
[01:40] <ynef> dave__: do you have any extensions and plugins (flash, for instance) installed? flash in particular crashes firefox ever so often
[01:40] <polpak> Awesome-o2000: well, not knowing stuff can be fixed. The other part... well.. ;p
[01:41] <Awesome-o2000> polpak, so far the only native ones I can run are ut2004 and et
[01:41] <HackerX> well wireless came out so i wouldnt have to be teather tethered to line and about 90% of the time im no wheres near a line
[01:41] <HackerX> ah
[01:41] <fyrestrtr> et?
[01:41] <dave__> yeh got flash installed, tabmix plus, and noir theme
[01:41] <FCTE> I've had no success with wine :(
[01:41] <polpak> Awesome-o2000: all the ID ones work, as does Savage and Savage 2
[01:41] <jrib> foiker: weird, maybe it's only for totem-xine
[01:41] <FCTE> I used Cedega for a while
[01:41] <FCTE> and it was pretty stable
[01:41] <Awesome-o2000> polpak, Ive been working on the other part for years. 5 years of therapy and im angrier than when I started. Yay therapy.
[01:41] <jrib> foiker: what are you trying to do?
[01:41] <HackerX> I mean it is a laptop
[01:41] <ynef> dave__: you might try to disable flash then, or install that NoFlash extension -- see if that helps
[01:41] <SonicChao> HackerX: lol, I actually prefer the cable, but you can try installing Network Manager in Add/Remove
[01:41] <Warbo> Awesome-o2000: I have run Quake 1 2 and 3 and Gish natively. Doom3 and above won't run on my PC
[01:41] <foiker> jrib: think so...And totem-gstreamer *sucks* in documentation
[01:41] <polpak> Awesome-o2000: and vendetta online is a pretty fun native space combat game
[01:41] <fyrestrtr> WoW works reasonably well with wine/cedega ... as long as you don't have an ATI video card
[01:42] <Awesome-o2000> FCTE, stable? sure. it gives me 1/4 the performance of windows and games play like excrement
[01:42] <FCTE> I have Nvidia 6800
[01:42] <dave__> noflash, that off mozilla site yeh? ynef
[01:42] <jrib> foiker: any reason you don't use totem-xine instead?
[01:42] <foiker> jrib: I'm trying to change the codepage for my subtitles so it can be shown properly in totem
[01:42] <polpak> Awesome-o2000: what video card do you use?
[01:42] <Awesome-o2000> I need a realistic FPS game
[01:42] <fyrestrtr> Awesome-o2000: play paintball :)
[01:42] <HackerX> well yea i love cable to cuz thats the way it always was but now laptop and wireless is the best and being that im never around a cat5 line its just better
[01:42] <ynef> dave__: yeah, hit "download more extensions" or whatever that link is called in the Extensions window -- search for it and you should find it
[01:42] <FCTE> I had no problems with Half-Life 2 or Battlefield 2
[01:42] <Warbo> Awesome-o2000: Check out Doomsday if you have any DOOM 1 or 2 WADs
[01:42] <HackerX> Thanks ill try tht
[01:42] <HackerX> that
[01:42] <foiker> jrib: It came with the installation gstreamer I mean....I'll give it a try right now....the situation is driving me mad
[01:42] <Awesome-o2000> polpak, I have an nvidia 6800gs 512mb agp
[01:42] <ynef> dave__: could have been flash block as well... you'll figure it out
[01:43] <Ng> FCTE: does battlefield2 work in cedega?
[01:43] <SonicChao> HackerX: I use Cat5 on my laptop, but for Wireless Networks, Network Manager usually helps
[01:43] <FCTE> occasionaslly the sky would go black, that's about it
[01:43] <Awesome-o2000> Warbo, I havent played doom since before the turn of the century
[01:43] <FCTE> BF2 worked for me
[01:43] <PingunZ> hi, is there a command to know if you have hda, sda, ... ?
[01:43] <dave__> ynef, flashblock?
[01:43] <FCTE> sorry I'm newb to irc, don't know how to answer directly :(
[01:43] <ynef> dave__: sounds good -- what does it do?
[01:44] <polpak> FCTE: just prefix with the persons name
[01:44] <Warbo> Awesome-o2000: Doomsday is a FLOSS engine for Doom, with particle effects, 3D environments, high-res textures, fire, liquid, etc. It's a hell of a lot better than Quake3, but I have not played Doom 3 so I don't know about that
[01:44] <Ng> FCTE: interesting :)
[01:44] <SonicChao> FCTE: Press the first few letters and press "Tab" and it will autocomplete
[01:44] <meowmix> How do I get the extra back and forward buttons on my mouse to work?  It's a Belkin, infrared, about 5 years old.
[01:44] <jrib> foiker: oh, I've never messed with subtitles.  You'd probably have better luck with something like mplayer or xine though (even if it's just in the ability to google for help).  totem-xine is the same as the totem you have now except the backend is xine instead of gstreamer.  If you want totem-xine, just enable universe, and install totem-xine package
[01:44] <ynef> FCTE: type part of the other guy's user name, hit tab and see if your client doesn't add it for you
[01:44] <HackerX> ok ill give that i shot i was just suprised as hell when i seen it even found my wireless card. i planed on trying to use that deal where you can use windows drivers on a linux platform
[01:44] <jrib> !mouse > meowmix
[01:44] <Awesome-o2000> doom3 has great graphics and fecal gameplay
[01:44] <FCTE> ynef, thanks :)
[01:44] <dave__> ynef, blocks flash
[01:44] <meowmix> !firefoxicon > meowmix
[01:44] <ubotu> I know nothing about firefoxicon
[01:44] <Awesome-o2000> however i may be forced to stick to idsoftware games because they have linux clients
[01:44] <ynef> dave__: then that sounds good to me :)
[01:44] <SonicChao> HackerX: If it doesn't work just tell me
[01:44] <fyrestrtr> the only thing that could run doom3 in my possession was the xbox.
[01:45] <foiker> jrib: thankz for the help mate :)
[01:45] <PingunZ>  is there a command to know if you have hda, sda, ... ?
[01:45] <dave__> unef, but wot if i look at a flash site? doh
[01:45] <FCTE> Cedega is definitely not worth $5 a month that's for sure. They also fudged how much it supports and it's ease of use
[01:45] <dave__> *ynef
[01:45] <Hobbsee> PingunZ: sudo fdisk -l
[01:45] <PingunZ> ty ;)
[01:45] <Warbo> PingunZ: "ls /dev/?da" ?
[01:45] <meowmix> xchat is weird
[01:45] <FCTE> FRame rates are not equal either
[01:45] <Awesome-o2000> yeah im cancelling my subscription and getting my money back. What a total POS cedega is
[01:45] <HackerX> alright i havent installed yet because i wanted to see if i could get it to work im opening that right now ill let you know in a min
[01:45] <ynef> dave__: you'll get a "play" icon you can click on (actually a flash movie with a play button) -- once you do, the original movie is loaded instead
[01:45] <SonicChao> meowmix: You can say that again, that's why I use Konversation :P
[01:45] <Awesome-o2000> if they dont refund my money i'll just cancel the payment through the bank
[01:46] <meowmix> :-P
[01:46] <dave__> ynef, why does firefox have a prob with flash? :S
[01:46] <FCTE> I'm stuck with XP lingering for a while. :(
[01:46] <Heda> is there a way to totally restart the usb system without restarting the entire box ?
[01:46] <meowmix> I'll have to check that out
[01:46] <SonicChao> meowmix: It's right in "Add/Remove"
[01:46] <meowmix> I thought there'd at least be a user list
[01:46] <Awesome-o2000> its a crying shame transgaming advertises their product as functional when its obviously a turd of a product
[01:46] <polpak> FCTE: the biggest problem I have with cedega is that unlike wine their business model seems to conflict with good deisgn goals
[01:46] <Warbo> Heda: Use lsmod to see the loaded modules, then rmmod them and modprobe them back
[01:46] <meowmix> okie
[01:46] <FCTE> Heda, try reinstallling hotplug
[01:46] <ynef> dave__: it doesn't -- it's the flash plugin that sucks. the same site that crashes when you visit it in firefox, will crash if you go there with mozilla or konqueror or anything else that uses the same plugin
[01:46] <HackerX> i want the Knetwork Manager correct?
[01:47] <SonicChao> meowmix: Go to "internet" and Scroll down 'till you see a K. Than find Konversation
[01:47] <SonicChao> HackerX: Yes
[01:47] <HackerX> k
[01:47] <Heda> cool - cheers will try that if i get the same problem again
[01:47] <wildman> hello *
[01:47] <dave__> ynef, ah right, is there any kinda workaround going on about that, doh
[01:47] <ranok> hi
[01:47] <FCTE> polpak, I was very unsuccessful with getting games in wine, but successful with cedega, it was an ok program, it would be a great program for free, but not at a monthly fee. It does not support enough and you are really stuck tweaking it a lot.
[01:48] <polpak> FCTE: wine is slowly but surely implementing the win32 api bug for bug.  Whereas cedega just fixes their code to get the latest/most popular games working (often at the expense of previous games)
[01:48] <SonicChao> wildman: Hello, what seems to be the problem?
[01:48] <dave__> ynef, is it worth uninstalling the flash plugin in synaptic
[01:48] <ynef> dave__: none than I know, although IIRC macromedia/adobe will release a new version of the plugin in the future
[01:48] <Warbo> Awesome-o2000: Any non-free program on Linux works a little dodgily. FLOSS can be packaged properly, integrated with themes and toolkits, etc. Also a lot of non-free stuff I have doesn't even use ALSA, since they have to aim for compatibility with older systems/distros
[01:48] <ynef> dave__: that seems a bit drastic -- see if flashblock does the trick first
[01:48] <foiker> grrr just installed xine and now I cant see any divx xvid or any other typeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
[01:48] <Awesome-o2000> Warbo, theres nothing dodgy about it. If it was dodgy it would work if set up properly. Cedega is simply not a good emulator.
[01:49] <dave__> ynef, well it aint crashed yet so we'll see! lol
[01:49] <jrib> If I don't have nautilus draw my desktop in GNOME, what could I use instead?
[01:49] <Awesome-o2000> and yes, cedega and wine ARE emulators.
[01:49] <polpak> foiker: install the restriced formats codecs
[01:49] <FCTE> polpak, many people downloaded cedega thinking it worked right out of the box running everything and they found the truth out quickly, only a few games are four stars in their list
[01:49] <cwillu> KenSentMe: still there?  I'm having a bit more luck
[01:49] <Warbo> Awesome-o2000: Maybe because WINE Is Not an Emulator?
[01:49] <ynef> jrib: thunar from xfce or rox, if you enjoy painfully ugly icons
[01:49] <reiki> trying to configure a wireless access point without having to reboot to windows. Can't remember IP of access point. Is there an app that will tell me what's on the LAN?
[01:49] <FCTE> polpak, Call of Duty was a no go
[01:49] <Awesome-o2000> Warbo, wine is not an emulator and nixon was not a crook.
[01:49] <ticki> bye bye everyone. thanks for your help
[01:50] <fyrestrtr> reiki: are you connected to it now?
[01:50] <foiker> polpak: the name of the package is ?
[01:50] <Warbo> Awesome-o2000: You obviously don't use emulators every day like I do. WINE is NOT an emulator
[01:50] <cwillu> Awesome-o2000: it technically isn't;  the binaries are running normal x86 code, and they're calling normal libraries
[01:50] <ticki> bye gijoe, thanks mate. ;-)
[01:50] <dave__> also can anyone help me with getting samba to work properly so i can see my windoze shares?
[01:50] <Warbo> If WINE was an emulator then you wouldn't need to run it through Qemu on PPC
[01:50] <reiki> fyrestrtr, the access point is connected to the LAN, but I am not connected to it wirelessly. I'm on a desktop
[01:50] <Awesome-o2000> Warbo, wine is a windows emulator, regardless of its claims. Its entire purpose is to run windows programs.
[01:50] <dave__> cheers ynef :0
[01:50] <dave__> :)
[01:50] <cwillu> Awesome-o2000: it _is_ a reimplementation via reverse engineering, which has it's problems, but it's not an emulation :)
[01:50] <fyrestrtr> dave__: Places -> Connect to Server... <-- try this first.
[01:50] <polpak> !restricted > foiker
[01:50] <Awesome-o2000> if I wrote a program who's entire purpose was to run atari 2600 programs it would be a 2600 emulator
[01:51] <foiker> !restricted
[01:51] <ubotu> For lots of multimedia issues this page has the useful information you want: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  see also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - Please use free formats: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[01:51] <meowmix> !stop_retyping_password > meowmix
[01:51] <ubotu> I know nothing about stop_retyping_password
[01:51] <cwillu> Awesome-o2000: you can (and people do) compile against wine libs instead of the windows one's :)
[01:51] <Awesome-o2000> even if wine goes about it in a different way - it is STILL an emulator.
[01:51] <polpak> Awesome-o2000: no
[01:51] <Warbo> Awesome-o2000: An emulator makes a computer in software. A "Windows emulator" would be ReactOS, since that is an OS and WINE isn't
[01:51] <fyrestrtr> reiki: you could ping the broadcast address and see who responds ... or you could try the defaults. Linksys defaults to <IP_ADDRESS> for example.
[01:51] <Awesome-o2000> polpak, yes.
[01:51] <dave__> fyrestrtr, i dont have places, im on xubuntu so that not built in
[01:51] <cwillu> Awesome-o2000: likewise, cygwin isn't an emulator either, it's an implementation of the unix api
[01:51] <cwillu> Awesome-o2000: no.  Implementation of an api does not an emulator make
[01:51] <Awesome-o2000> Warbo, an emulator runs programs meant for another operating system or hardware setup.
[01:52] <polpak> Awesome-o2000: you're redefining (wrongly) the word emulator just to suit what you think it means
[01:52] <FCTE> Wine emulates a Windows environment.
[01:52] <Awesome-o2000> wine is an emulator
[01:52] <Ng> wine is not an emulator ;)
[01:52] <reiki> fyrestrtr, ok dumb question... long time away from network stuff...broadcast address for 192.168.254.x network?
[01:52] <Warbo> Awesome-o2000: Exactly. Run WINE on another system. Have you run WINE on M68K, PPC, MIPS, ARM?
[01:52] <Awesome-o2000> polpak, on the contrary - the WINE developers redefine the word emulator
[01:52] <fyrestrtr> reiki: if that's the subnet you are on, then yes.
[01:52] <Warbo> Awesome-o2000: Would you count AROS as an emulator then?
[01:53] <ynef> reiki: depends on network submask, but I'm going to guess that it's <IP_ADDRESS>
[01:53] <reiki> fyrestrtr, no... I meant what would be the broadcast address? :)
[01:53] <Awesome-o2000> Warbo, i'd have to know what that is
[01:53] <reiki> ahhh... answered
[01:53] <fyrestrtr> reiki: 255 is always the broadcast address.
[01:53] <cwillu> Awesome-o2000: the pedantic definition of emulator is quite useless, because it would also mean amd is an emulation of intel, and a word processor is an emulation of a type writer :)
[01:53] <Warbo> Awesome-o2000: aros.org. It runs AmigaOS programs on M68K, but when run on x86 or PPC it can't run them
[01:53] <dave__> cos thunar on xubuntu doesnt seem to handle samba stuff
[01:53] <fyrestrtr> dave__: you can always use smbmount from the cli
[01:53] <Awesome-o2000> Warbo, what a fecal emulator
[01:54] <ticki> hi. i' m here again. How can i add a new screen resolution? i have modified the file and when i rebooted i said: Uknown Frequency or Frequency not supported (something of the like)....
[01:54] <neopsyche> hello
[01:54] <Warbo> Awesome-o2000: Yes, it would be quite pathetic if they were trying to actually make an emulator
[01:54] <Awesome-o2000> at least xmame runs on different os
[01:54] <neopsyche> im having problems with my mouse configuration
[01:54] <fyrestrtr> ticki: your monitor doesn't support that resolution at the refresh rates you have setup for it.
[01:54] <neopsyche> its a ps2 mouse
[01:54] <Awesome-o2000> Warbo, yes, it is pathetic.
[01:54] <Netcad> say there is a line in the format token1-token2 token3-token4-token5. how to replace the - characters only between token3 token4 and token5?
[01:54] <Warbo> Awesome-o2000: UAE can emulate an Amiga COMPUTER, but not the OS. AROS is a replacement OS
[01:54] <neopsyche> sorry... correction .. a serial mouse
[01:54] <ticki> fyrestrtr: but i use 1280 x 1024 under windows.
[01:54] <Awesome-o2000> Warbo, thats nice.
[01:54] <dave__> fyrestrtr, so i just wud type smbmount and then my computer name and share name?
[01:55] <ticki> fyrestrtr: and ubutu only give me upto 1024
[01:55] <neopsyche> tried configuring in xorg but its still not working
[01:55] <fyrestrtr> dave__: don't remember the exact syntax, try man smbmount
[01:55] <neopsyche> could someone help me?
[01:55] <dave__> righto cheers mate
[01:55] <fyrestrtr> ticki: what video card is it?
[01:55] <neopsyche> S3
[01:55] <neopsyche> oh msg to ticki
[01:55] <ticki> fyrestrtr: it's an onboard card with my Intel Mobo.
[01:55] <Awesome-o2000> Warbo, #  Computer Science. To imitate the function of (another system), as by modifications to hardware or software that allow the imitating system to accept the same data, execute the same programs, and achieve the same results as the imitated system.
[01:55] <Awesome-o2000> aint that a bitch.
[01:55] <FCTE> ticki, you have to change your xorg.conf
[01:55] <wildman> SonicChao: euh... no pb, just being polite ;)
[01:56] <reiki> fyrestrtr, weird... pinging broadcast address gets no response. Might be because I'm all switches and not hubs?
[01:56] <fyrestrtr> ticki: hrmm, could be that the resolution you want isn't supported by the drivers -- but I suspect the real reason is that your monitor's refresh rates aren't configured correctly.
[01:56] <ticki> FCTE: i think i have edited that. i did what it said in the ubuntu manual.
[01:56] <Warbo> Awesome-o2000: Then WINE, ReactOS and AROS are grey areas then
[01:56] <FCTE> ticki, did you remove everything other than 1280 x 1024 in each category?? THat is what I had to do
[01:56] <fyrestrtr> reiki: what is your broadcast?
[01:56] <ticki> fyrestrtr: how can i check the frequency? it is a standard monitor (CRT 19 inches)
[01:57] <reiki> fyrestrtr, hmmm... maybe ping the MAC address of the access point?
[01:57] <Awesome-o2000> Warbo, theyre as grey as xmame.
[01:57] <andyjeffries> Anyone out there experienced in getting Xgl/compiz working?  I'm willing to paypal someone 10 to help me get it working (I've tried following every Ubuntu tutorial/howto I can find on it).  I'm on a fast PC/connection so it shouldn't take long if you're an expert in Xgl/Compiz (I'm an nvidia user)
[01:57] <fyrestrtr> reiki: no, you can't ping mac addresses
[01:57] <polpak> !xgl
[01:57] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[01:57] <reiki> fyrestrtr, I did ping -b <IP_ADDRESS>
[01:57] <ticki> FCTE: nope, i added 1280.
[01:57] <Gorlist> hi, are their any plugins to allow me to watch .wma and quicktime movies?
[01:57] <neopsyche> can someone please help me with xorg conf re: my mouse isnt moving
[01:57] <neopsyche> *cursor
[01:57] <Warbo> Anyway
[01:57] <polpak> !restricted > Gorlist
[01:57] <Warbo> !offtopic
[01:57] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[01:57] <FCTE> ticki, go back into you xorg.conf and make sure everything is 1280x1024, delete all others
[01:58] <fyrestrtr> reiki: is that your broadcast? check ifconfig to find your broadcast address.
[01:58] <neopsyche> Gorlist.. Try VIDEO LAN CODEC VLC
[01:58] <Warbo> VideoLAN Client
[01:58] <neopsyche> videolan.org
[01:58] <Warbo> :)
[01:58] <Gorlist> thanks!
[01:58] <ticki> FCTE: thanks , i will try that.
[01:58] <fyrestrtr> !restrictedformats > Gorlist
[01:58] <edgy> KenSentMe: I just figured out that a cron script shouldn't have a "." in its name in case you are interested ;)
[01:58] <polpak> Gorlist: you can use the normal video player.. you just need the restricted codecs
[01:58] <neopsyche> warbo.,. do you know how i can fix my xorg mouse settings?
[01:58] <FCTE> ticki, no problem, do it for every section
[01:58] <reiki> fyrestrtr,  Bcast:<IP_ADDRESS>
[01:58] <edgy> KenSentMe: or in case some one asked the same question here
[01:58] <polpak> Gorlist: you don't need to install VLC, though you can if you like
[01:58] <Warbo> neopsyche: Nope, sorry
[01:59] <neopsyche> edgy .. do you know how i can fix my mouse ?
[01:59] <FCTE> ticki, It did the same thing to me and I have a Nvidia 6800
[01:59] <reiki> fyrestrtr, and there are other devices running that should also be responding
[01:59] <neopsyche> xorg settings
[01:59] <ticki> FCTE: at the moment, what i have for every sections is: Modes		"1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
[01:59] <neopsyche> FCTE? do you know how i can fix my mouse settings?
[01:59] <fyrestrtr> reiki: maybe icmp echo is blocked on your network.
[01:59] <HackerX> Alright, heres what i get now its hangs 28% (Configuring device) and then after about a min it says disconnnected and trys again
[01:59] <edgy> neopsyche: I see there an update to the xserver-mouse today did you install it?
[01:59] <FCTE> ticki, delete everything other than 1280x1024, that will solve the problem
[01:59] <meowmix> i made the changes !mouse said to, but now it won't let me save "xorg.conf", it says I don't have permissions.
[02:00] <reiki> fyrestrtr, I have no idea WHERE that would be blocked on the LAN. I didn't block it anywhere that I can remember
[02:00] <polpak> meowmix: you need to edit it with sudo
[02:00] <fyrestrtr> meowmix: you need to edit it as a superuser (with sudo)
[02:00] <ticki> FCTE: ok. and what if other user want to use a lower resolution?
[02:00] <FCTE> neopsyche, what kind of mouse?
[02:00] <fyrestrtr> reiki: you are the lan administrator?
[02:00] <meowmix> how to i make it ask my password?
[02:00] <neopsyche> its a microsoft wheelmouse serial
[02:00] <reiki> fyrestrtr, yeah... it's my house! :)
[02:00] <neopsyche> 1.1A serial compatable
[02:00] <fyrestrtr> ticki: you can leave all your resolutions in there and use ctrl+alt+numpad - and numpad + to cycle through them.
[02:00] <Tomasz> HI ALL
[02:00] <neopsyche> need to edit xorg.conf
[02:01] <fyrestrtr> ticki: it will default to the first resolution listed.
[02:01] <FCTE> ticki, i guess you can change it later
[02:01] <neopsyche> thats what i did last time but cant remember commands
[02:01] <HackerX> you there?
[02:01] <fyrestrtr> reiki: well heck .. lol
[02:01] <FCTE> ticki, but if you want to get the 1280x1024 you have to remove all the other listings and add in the 1280x1024 in every category
[02:01] <dmitri> Hey all...got a wacky one here with installing AC '97 modem on m x31 running latest Dapper - can anyone help please?
[02:01] <ticki> fyrestrtr: i didn' t understand the CTRL+ALT+NUMPAD thing
[02:02] <meowmix> polpak: how do i edit xorg.conf with sudo?  i browsed to it and double clicked it, and it opened in gedit
[02:02] <ticki> fyrestrtr: got it.. thanks..
[02:02] <fyrestrtr> ticki: when you are in X, you can cycle through the screen resolutions by hitting ctrl+alt and then the - or + keys on the numeric keypad (numpad)
[02:02] <reiki> fyrestrtr, simple LAN setup inside a DSL modem/router combo. But I don't use hubs anywhere. Does BCast go through switches?
[02:02] <monomaniacpat> how do you get usb game pads working in ubuntu?
[02:02] <fyrestrtr> meowmix: type gksudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf from the terminal
[02:02] <alfred> has anyone had trouble with dual or triple network cards switching positions?  Like one boot card #1 is eth0 and the next it is eth3
[02:03] <jrib> !dialup > dmitri
[02:03] <meowmix> i thought you didn't have to type stuff like that in ubuntu :(
[02:03] <ticki> fyrestrtr: by if i remove everything other than 1280 as suggested by FCTE, i don ' think i will be able to do that.
[02:03] <neopsyche> I changed my resolution to 1024x768 and now no more mouse working
[02:03] <monomaniacpat> can anyone help me please?
[02:03] <HackerX> my wireless device is found but wont connect any ideas?
[02:03] <fyrestrtr> ticki: you are right, because there will be only one resolution listed :)
[02:03] <dmitri> yes
[02:03] <fyrestrtr> reiki: not sure about that, but it should.
[02:03] <monomaniacpat> HackerX: try using different encryption
[02:03] <HackerX> different?
[02:04] <HackerX> hmm
[02:04] <FCTE> ticki, that's the route I took becaue I do not need any other resolutions :)
[02:04] <ticki> fyrestrtr: the problem is when i add 1280, it breaks... anyway, i will try to do what FCTE suggested as see how it works.
[02:04] <reiki> fyrestrtr, I would think it would have to... hmmm... I wonder if arpwatch would find the IP based on the MAC
[02:04] <fyrestrtr> reiki: an easy way to figure this out would be to turn on your wireless radio and see what it picks up as the AP
[02:04] <fyrestrtr> ticki: adjust your horizontal and vertical refresh rates.
[02:04] <ticki> FCTE: i don' t need anyother res. either.. because it is only me here... but i was just wondering..
[02:04] <monomaniacpat> HackerX: say plain instead of hex
[02:04] <fyrestrtr> ticki: they are not correct for your monitor, look them up on the web and then adjust your xorg file. Don't guess these numbers, as wrong values may damage your monitor.
[02:05] <FCTE> ticki, if you need to change it to something else, just do the same, remove the 1280x1024 and put in the new resolution :)
[02:05] <reiki> fyrestrtr, I'm on a desktop box... no wireless on here
[02:05] <HackerX> sorry to say and i know i will get flamed for this but i live in the middle of no where i really couldnt care less if somone used my netowrk cuz im not very close to the road anyways so i have zero encryption
[02:05] <ticki> fyrestrtr: ok.. i will look that up
[02:05] <ticki> but can i do that fort every different res.?
[02:05] <fyrestrtr> ticki: FCTE you can also change the resolution from within gnome itself.
[02:06] <fyrestrtr> system -> preferences -> screen resolution
[02:06] <HackerX> any ideas now?
[02:06] <wilburt> hi
[02:06] <ticki> fyrestrtr: yes. but it doesn't  list 1280
[02:06] <ticki> and when i try to add it, it breaks.
[02:06] <FCTE> fyrestrtr, where at? I used to be able to mess around with my Nvidia settings in Breezy, but when the drivers are installed in Dapper they are nowhere to be found
[02:06] <fyrestrtr> ticki: that's because it reads the xorg file and only lists what you have there.
[02:06] <monomaniacpat> can any tell me how to get usb gamepads working?!
[02:06] <ticki> well, breaks.. i never starts with that unsupported freq.
[02:06] <neopsyche> does anyone know how to get a dialin server working?
[02:07] <ticki> fyrestrtr: yes, i know.
[02:07] <fyrestrtr> ticki: what monitor do you have?
[02:07] <HackerX> ...
[02:07] <ticki> viewsonic e90f+ (19 inches CRT)
[02:07] <neopsyche> in WInDoZE u just select dialin server option on .. and it lets people dialup to your pc.. shared folders etc.
[02:07] <HackerX> i guess not
[02:08] <HackerX> hmm anyone else know?
[02:08] <wilburt> hi I have a question, i tried installing ubuntu before but didnt go well :\ partitions sorta messd me up, anywho im going to do it again but im wondering should i just let the installer do it for me or use partition magic to do it? thanks
[02:08] <Awesome-o2000> tich, viewsonic g810 and a benq fp91G+ here
[02:08] <Gorlist> how can I convert a B5T image to iso or something?
[02:08] <Awesome-o2000> god damnit
[02:08] <Awesome-o2000> ticki, I mean
[02:08] <FCTE> wilburt, do you need the drive for anything else?
[02:08] <wilburt> FCTE: well its the family pc so Il need a dual boot
[02:08] <HackerX> ...!
[02:09] <ticki> Awesome-o2000: is that LCD?
[02:09] <lasindi> Hi all, I have a program that I need to be run by a CGI script on my webserver. The program technically requires X to run (i.e. it produces errors if it can't access the X server), but it doesn't actually open any windows and as soon as it's done running, it quits. Is there a way to trick this program into thinking an X server is there, or have it actually access the X server that's running?
[02:09] <Awesome-o2000> ticki, one is one isnt
[02:09] <FCTE> wilburt, oh, I have no dual booting experience that didn't go horribly
[02:09] <meowmix> is it supposed to keep asking me for my password?
[02:09] <ticki> Awesome-o2000: yeah..i  have no idea about hardware.. ;-)
[02:10] <wilburt> FCTE: well last time i tried installing it i formatted my hd :\
[02:10] <KenSentMe> wilburt: but it's best that before you run the installer you have a free partition that ubuntu can use
[02:10] <idefix__> how can you copy e-mails from a webbased client into evolution mail?
[02:10] <meowmix> !password > meowmix
[02:10] <Awesome-o2000> ticki, behold my glory.
[02:10] <cypher_> lasindi: wont redirecting error /dev/null a possibility here ?
[02:10] <FCTE> wilburt, everytime I have attempted dual booting grub eats my Windows partition.
[02:10] <fyrestrtr> ticki: your monitor's refresh rates are 30-86 H, and 50-180 V -- set these in xorg and your resolution should work.
[02:10] <HackerX> Ubuntu found my wireless device but it wont connect... any ideas?
[02:10] <neopsyche> is there a lighter version of gui on ubuntu other than gnome?
[02:10] <wilburt> KenSentMe: ok cool thanks :)
[02:11] <wilburt> FCTE: aww :( so what do you do? just run ubuntu on its own?
[02:11] <cypher_> HackerX: by wireless device you mean your AP right ?
[02:11] <FCTE> neopsyche, try xbuntu
[02:11] <Nameeater> fluxbox, or there is that other one or two, fvwm perhaps
[02:11] <Frogzoo> FCTE: that's very unusual - could you upgrade your bios perhaps?
[02:11] <KenSentMe> idefix__: what client do you use?
[02:11] <neopsyche> can i run xbuntu from ubuntu?
[02:11] <Awesome-o2000> neopsyche, youll like xubuntu - its very nice
[02:11] <neopsyche> my pc only has 64megs ram thats why im asking
[02:11] <FCTE> wilburt, i do it ghetto with two drives, i just unconnect/reconnect LOL
[02:11] <HackerX> No, sorry my wireless card in my laptop
[02:11] <Nameeater> xubuntu-desktop is the package to install
[02:11] <wilburt> FCTE: old school ftw :)
[02:11] <lasindi> cypher_: no because the program actually quits because of the error. To be specific, I'm trying to run OpenOffice.org macros from the script. Works fine with X, but I never see a window pop up. I just need it to run without ever trying to access X.
[02:11] <ticki> fyrestrtr: right now what i have is: 28-51H, 43-60V
[02:12] <neopsyche> ok.. how do i switch between boots?
[02:12] <ticki> fyrestrtr: may I know where you get that info. i would like to check it.
[02:12] <fyrestrtr> ticki: might want to adjust those
[02:12] <neopsyche> if i wan to boot into xubuntu .. does this mean it will boot every time?
[02:12] <fyrestrtr> ticki: the all mighty Google
[02:12] <ticki> fyrestrtr: link?
[02:12] <Frogzoo> FCTE: have you tried setting the master/slave jumpering on the drives?
[02:12] <fyrestrtr> ticki: google.com :P
[02:12] <FCTE> Frogzoo, I dunno, my board is only a year old, I think it's the placement of grub in the MBR that FUBAR's my chances of dual booting
[02:12] <Nameeater> neopsyche: you can choose it at the login screen, or change it in a config file
[02:12] <fyrestrtr> ticki: http://www.viewsonic.com.au/support/manuals/download.php?id=54
[02:13] <Frogzoo> FCTE: but that's what grub does best... usually
[02:13] <Awesome-o2000> neopsyche, no, you must find the sparrow king to boot in xubuntu
[02:13] <FCTE> Frogzoo, my jumpers are set straight
[02:13] <meowmix> i can't find imwheel in synaptic to get my extra mouse buttons working
[02:13] <Frogzoo> FCTE: ide or sata? LBA set in the bios?
[02:13] <neopsyche> cool.
[02:13] <ticki> fyrestrtr: haha. thanks, i was reading the same file.
[02:14] <HackerX> _____ok Ubuntu=Found Wireless card Wireless card=Wont connect ANY IDEAS???
[02:14] <FCTE> I dunno I rarely ever use my windows drive except for the ocasional game so I have no problem with the way it is now
[02:14] <cypher_> sorry got dc'ed
[02:14] <ticki> fyrestrtr: but from the google cache.
[02:14] <FCTE> Frogzoo, PATA
[02:14] <cypher_> HackerX: paste your iwconfig output
[02:14] <cypher_> HackerX: run iwconfig as root
[02:14] <lasindi> cypher_: ah, did you get my reply?
[02:15] <cypher_> lasindi: yes sorry
[02:15] <HackerX> HUH? sorry im slightly new to this what is the iwconfig?
[02:15] <cypher_> lasindi: i dont think i have any answers to that sorry
[02:15] <Yogarine> good morning
[02:15] <FCTE> Frogzoo, I haven't messed with the BIOS other than to make sure it sees everything and set my boot selection.
[02:15] <lasindi> cypher_: ok, thanks anyway
[02:15] <cypher_> HackerX: it is similar to ifconfig but for wireless
[02:16] <HackerX> and where would i locate this?
[02:16] <k31th> hey, the windows resizer for dapper how long does it normally take ?
[02:16] <cypher_> lasindi: i have not run much cgi other than small things :)
[02:16] <cwillu> anybody know of any way to take the output of a program that thinks its talking to, say, an epson, or an hp4, and convert that to an arbitrary printer (via pdf, or whatever)?
[02:16] <Frogzoo> FCTE: well check you've got LBA mode set next time you're in the bios - but this should just work...
[02:16] <cypher_> HackerX: in a terminal type: sudo iwconfig
[02:16] <idefix__> KenSentMe... I use www.alumnus.utwente.nl
[02:16] <HackerX> ok
[02:16] <wildman> now I do have a question :)
[02:16] <wilburt> cypher_: you the same cypher from UL?
[02:16] <kholerabbi> Could someone please explain how to switch between gtk2 themes (in gnome)?
[02:16] <wildman> ubuntu 6.06 LTS x86_64 here, konversation is the IRC client I'm using
[02:16] <cypher_> wilburt: UL ?
[02:17] <neopsyche> what is the command to install.. sudo .???
[02:17] <lasindi> cypher_: ah, well, I tested it actually by running it as another non-root user while in the same X session and found the results
[02:17] <cwillu> neopsyche: ?
[02:17] <wilburt> cypher_: ok myabe not, University of limerick, must have the same name :)
[02:17] <Nameeater> cwillu: you can get a pdf printer and make the program use that
[02:17] <wilburt> cypher_: sorry
[02:17] <ticki> fyrestrtr: what does this mean? Under "Resolution"  ... " recommended and supported" : it says: "1280 x 1024 @ 75 Hz (VESA)" right bellow the values you told me
[02:17] <cypher_> wilburt: no sorry :)
[02:17] <wildman> I've set Konversation up to display OSD messages when someone writes my name on a message, but am not seeing anything at all, ideas?
[02:17] <neopsyche> want to install xubuntu
[02:17] <KenSentMe> idefix__: i think that's going to be hard to copy, maybe someone on your uni knows a way to export the mail
[02:17] <FCTE> Frogzoo, I'll check it out, also I use two 160GB Samsung standard PATA, one for each OS
[02:17] <Frogzoo> !themes > kholerabbi
[02:17] <cwillu> Nameeater: that's the problem
[02:17] <Yogarine> neopsyche: sudo apt-get install **
[02:17] <dmitri> sorry: badly phrases. I need help with my modem device drivers (Name:  Modem: Intel Corporation 82801DB/DBL/DBM (ICH4/ICH4-L/ICH4-M) AC'97 Modem ControllerPCIID:  8086:24C6 1014:0524) for Thinkpadx31. been trying to install via the conexant website and get the error (
[02:17] <dmitri> Note: kernel module snd-via82xx-modem overridden by hsfmc97via
[02:17] <dmitri> Note: kernel module snd-intel8x0m overridden by hsfmc97ich hsfmc97sis
[02:17] <dmitri> Note: kernel module snd-atiixp-modem overridden by hsfmc97ati
[02:17] <dmitri> dpkg: error processing hsfmodem (--install):
[02:17] <dmitri>  subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 123
[02:17] <ynef> neopsyche: sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[02:17] <dmitri> Errors were encountered while processing:
[02:17] <dmitri>  hsfmodem)
[02:17] <neopsyche> thanks
[02:18] <kholerabbi> !changethemes > kholerabbi
[02:18] <cwillu> Nameeater: I need something that can either take epson output, or pcl output, and turn it into anything else
[02:18] <k31th> Hello ???
[02:18] <k31th> hey, the windows resizer for dapper how long does it normally take ?
[02:18] <idefix__> KenSentMe... but reading the mail was possible so my inbox is now in evolution mail
[02:18] <Nameeater> good luck with that :/
[02:18] <cypher_> lasindi: i guess you want a dummy X to make your office macro to work, right ?
[02:18] <ompaul> dmitri, DONT paste, please use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org, thats
[02:18] <ompaul> dmitri, thanks
[02:18] <k31th> ompaul: yo
[02:18] <lasindi> cypher_: preferably not, but I could actually live with that if it would work
[02:18] <ynef> k31th: likely depends on the amount of data on the partition -- completely trashing my harddrive's partitions took about five minutes
[02:18] <dmitri> ok sorry
[02:19] <ompaul> k31th, hello
[02:19] <ompaul> dmitri, you didn't know you do now ;-)
[02:19] <k31th> ynef: i see
[02:19] <neopsyche> can someone please help me configure my mouse?
[02:20] <ubuntu_> i'm newbie in linux can somebody tell me what is the terminal ?
[02:20] <ticki> fyrestrtr: you there?
[02:20] <ompaul> !cli> ubuntu_
[02:20] <cwillu> ubuntu_:  dos prompt'ish thing
[02:20] <ompaul> ubuntu_, read the message from ubotu
[02:20] <ynef> ubuntu_: it's a place where you can type commands, like the old dos prompt
[02:20] <florian__2> hi, is it save to resive and move my root partition and my home partition with gparted live cd or may i have problems afterwards runnung my ubuntu?
[02:21] <Frogzoo> !mouse > neopsyche
[02:21] <ticki> and does anybody know why ubutu uses 1024x768 instead of 1024x800 ? is there a special reason for that.
[02:21] <ynef> florian__2: as long as the partition numbers are the same, it shouldn't be a problem -- otherwise, you should mount your harddrive and edit /etc/fstab to show the changes you've made
[02:21] <Frogzoo> neopsyche: also see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/mouse
[02:21] <k31th> ynef: how does it resize ? i mean i asked it to resize it by about half of the partition about 1/4 of it was used
[02:21] <mathieu> ticki: i've never seen 1024x800
[02:21] <KenSentMe> idefix__: i know, but the mail that is still on the webmail is the problem i think
[02:22] <Frogzoo> ticki: the vga standard
[02:22] <ompaul> ticki, standard screen sizes
[02:22] <florian__2> ynef: just edit the fstab, nothing else to do?
[02:22] <ynef> k31th: beats me -- the bugger killed everything on my harddrive when I attempted it... ntfs support is shaky, at best
[02:22] <ticki> oh.. is it? i thought it was 1024x800
[02:22] <ynef> florian__2: well, no, shouldn't be
[02:22] <Hudson_H> hi can someone tell me what i do wrong, i follow the steps on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebootstrapChroot?highlight=%28chroot%29 i made an error in this line sudo debootstrap --variant=buildd --arch i386 breezy /var/chroot/ http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ so i changed breezy in dapper,but then it says that is is a wrong command?
[02:22] <florian__2> ynef: thank you so much
[02:22] <ticki> you are right.
[02:23] <wildman> I'll shot my question again:
[02:23] <wildman> I've set Konversation up to display OSD messages when someone writes my name on a message, but am not seeing anything at all, ideas?
[02:23] <ticki> ok. i' m gonna restart. let' s see what happens.
[02:23] <Frogzoo> ynef: there's an open bug against qparted's ntfs resizing - it's known to kill ntfs
[02:23] <ticki> one last quetsion, Where can i set the Hz for my screen resolution
[02:24] <ynef> Frogzoo: well, isn't that just lovely? ;) luckily, the computer was brand new, so I didn't lose anything
[02:24] <fyrestrtr> ticki: in xorg.conf
[02:24] <Frogzoo> !fixres > ticki
[02:24] <florian__2> is it possible to boot from an iso cd image with grub?
[02:24] <Frogzoo> ynef: I'm just advertising this little known fact...
[02:24] <k31th> ntfssize from 70  to 40 gigs is that going to take hours ?
[02:24] <ticki> fyrestrtr: yes, but in the viewsonic manual, besides the input signal, it says: 1280 x 1024 @ 75 Hz (VESA)
[02:25] <ynef> Frogzoo: there *really* ought to be more than a slight warning about that...
[02:25] <Hudson_H> k31th: no,but remember to defrag it first
[02:26] <wildman> ticki: if this helps, I had to find the proper horiz and vert (k)hertz settings for X to take the highest possible refresh rate automatically
[02:26] <oskude> ticki, try to find the vertical refresh and horizontal sync rates for you monitor, maybe in its manual or website (pdf)
[02:26] <Frogzoo> ynef: 100% agree: -> https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/gparted/+bug/48229
[02:26] <wildman> and am at 1280x1024x75hz on my 17''LCD
[02:26] <Hudson_H> hi can someone tell me what i do wrong, i follow the steps on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebootstrapChroot?highlight=%28chroot%29 i made an error in this line sudo debootstrap --variant=buildd --arch i386 breezy /var/chroot/ http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ so i changed breezy in dapper,but then it says that is is a wrong command?
[02:28] <ticki> wildman and oskude: i have that info but in addition to that, my monitor manual set that about the @75Hz
[02:28] <Hudson_H> ok then i trie something else, Install the ia32-libs and ia32-libs-dev packages,how can i do this on a 64 bit machine?
[02:28] <ticki> I think one this i the Video Sync, and the other one is the Refresh Rate
[02:29] <Frogzoo> ticki: you need to set horizsync & vertrefresh in /etc/X11/xorg.conf, just as the docs mention
[02:29] <wildman> ticki: once I've put the correct horiz and vert refresh rates the monitor went to highest refresh rate (75Hz in my case) _alone_
[02:29] <ticki> wildman: where di you set the 75hz in xorg.conf ?
[02:29] <wildman> ticki: nowhere
[02:29] <ticki> ok. so everything is done automatically
[02:29] <Sub> ticki, you dont put the actual refresh rates in
[02:29] <ticki> ist hat correct?
[02:29] <wildman> ticki: see the _alone_, and automatically in my phrases?
[02:29] <ticki> ok. Cool. just wondering..
[02:29] <wildman> ticki: yes
[02:30] <Hudson_H> how can i install on a 64 bit machine the ia32-libs and ia32-libs-dev packages?
[02:30] <wildman> ticki: provided you set the correct refresh rates for both horiz and vert
[02:30] <ticki> wildman: i was already writting that line when you wrote that.. I read it .. hehe. thanks,
[02:30] <wildman> Hudson_H: apt-get install ....
[02:30] <wildman> ticki: slow reader/writers everywhere (happens here too ;))
[02:30] <wildman> ticki: or should I say "fast"? ;)
[02:31] <Hudson_H> wildman: he won't to,he says it needs wine and thats nog 64bit suportive
[02:31] <ticki> ok.restarting gnome to see how it goes.
[02:32] <wildman> Hudson_H: euh... I think I do have the ia32-libs installed here w/o pbs, however cannot say the same about the ia32-libs-dev one...
[02:32] <p0m> Heya guys. Anyone know which package I need to install to satisfy muine that there's something to play to?
[02:33] <p0m> I've got everything else working, xine with codecs etc.
[02:33] <Frogzoo> p0m: play what?
[02:33] <TLE> any cedega users here ?
[02:33] <p0m> mp3 files right now.
[02:33] <Hudson_H> wildman: i just saw that on http://wiki.winehq.org/WineOn64bit there is an ubuntu manual too,just the beginning is not clear to me
[02:33] <p0m> It's telling me there's no decoders.
[02:34] <p0m> I can actually play the file via xine.
[02:35] <wildman> Hudson_H: didn't play with Wine here yet... sorry
[02:35] <CatalinuX> hello everyone
[02:35] <CatalinuX> I installed a server version of ubuntu breezy today. How do I update it to Dapper from the commandline ?
[02:36] <wildman> Hudson_H: euh... which is the part that u don't understand?
[02:36] <Nameeater> CatalinuX:https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DapperUpgrades
[02:36] <Hudson_H> CatalinuX: apt-get update
[02:36] <Frogzoo> p0m: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats
[02:36] <ticki> hi everyone. Here i' m back running 1280x800@75Hz .. hehe
[02:37] <CatalinuX> Hudson_H: Do I have yo to change the sources.list in any way ?
[02:37] <ticki> one question. it doesn' t take the whole screen. there is like a little unsed gap on the four sides.. how cna i fix that?
[02:37] <Hudson_H> wildman: it says i have to go to lib32,but there is no lib32?
[02:37] <Frogzoo> p0m: my guess you're missing gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly
[02:37] <wildman> Hudson_H: maybe it's /usr/lib32 ?
[02:37] <wildman> Hudson_H: wait plz
[02:37] <p0m> Actually, I've got all those.
[02:38] <p0m> Including ugly.
[02:38] <Nameeater> ticki: with the monitor buttons (usually on the front) ?
[02:38] <wildman> Hudson_H: I do have /usr/lib32 here... so I guess that's where one should go
[02:38] <osfameron> !words
[02:38] <ubotu> I know nothing about words
[02:38] <osfameron> !/usr/dict/words
[02:38] <ubotu> I know nothing about /usr/dict/words
[02:38] <osfameron> bah
[02:38] <wildman> Hudson_H: OTOH, the 'run as *root* part' means u have to prepend 'sudo ' to all commands shown there
[02:38] <ticki> Nameeater: yes, but if i boot windows, I will have to adjust it again.
[02:39] <osfameron> anyone know where /usr/dict/words lives on debuntu?
[02:39] <wildman> Hudson_H: those instructions are not very 'literal' indeed, one has to make a few 'guesses'
[02:39] <p0m> Hm, thanks anyhow Frogzoo.
[02:39] <Hudson_H> wildman: ok but in usr i have a path with lib but not a lib32path
[02:39] <rabbit7_> hey. i have a question about automount. which system is used in dapper. I want to change the umask option, but i dont find any config files
[02:39] <rabbit7_> thanx for your help
[02:39] <Nameeater> ticki: are you sure?
[02:39] <ticki> well. i suppose
[02:39] <HackerX> Ok my wireless card is found but wont connect. i was told to copy and paste my config file on here but im not on laptop that have ubuntu what exactly am i looking for in the config?
[02:39] <ticki> let' s try
[02:39] <Nameeater> you could test it :)
[02:40] <Hudson_H> wildman: pff i need a bether tutorial,i'm to noob to guess a lot
[02:40] <ticki> how will my monitor know i am running ubuntu and not windows?
[02:40] <osfameron> aha, /etc/dictionaries-common/words
[02:40] <osfameron> ubotu: words is see /etc/dictionaries-common/words
[02:40] <plasmoduck> hey
[02:40] <wildman> Hudson_H: I'm giving you the missing bits ;)
[02:40] <plasmoduck> whats hte command to setup my network card with dhcp?>
[02:40] <Nameeater> osfameron: slocate is good too :)
[02:40] <rabbit7_> plasmoduck: sudo dhclient eth0
[02:41] <HackerX> ???
[02:41] <LTjake> hello. i'm running tomcat5 on dapper. i'd like tomcat to be able to write to a particular directory, to whom should it be chown'ed?
[02:41] <rabbit7_> automount anyone ? all i need is a hint :)
[02:41] <Hudson_H> wildman: first of all,how do i get the needet /usr/lib32 with the needet files in?
[02:42] <osfameron> Nameeater: oh, yes - though `slocate words` finds rather a lot of stuff
[02:42] <ticki> Does anybody know how to search in the current folder in Nautilius?
[02:42] <wildman> Hudson_H: sudo apt-get install ia32-libs ia32-libs-devel
[02:42] <wildman> Hudson_H: gimme 1', I'll double check the pkg names
[02:42] <Nameeater> slocate dict | grep words ?
[02:42] <HackerX> Ok now im getting slightly irritated!!!
[02:42] <Nameeater> /usr/share/dict/words :)
[02:42] <rabbit7_> automount anyone ? it doesnt seem to be autofs right ???
[02:43] <reaper> HEY! can anyone help me with an onboard sound problem?
[02:43] <wildman> Hudson_H: hmm... I DO have ia32-libs, but synaptic (the graphical pkg manager) doesn't display ia32-libs-devel after a search for 'ia32' in the pkgs names...
[02:43] <MatthewV> rabbit7_, what are you trying to automount?
[02:43] <wildman> Hudson_H: so, I'm not sure where one gets the ia32-libs-devel pkg from...
[02:43] <HackerX> ...
[02:44] <rabbit7_> MatthewV: automount works. i want to change the umask option from 077 to 022
[02:44] <reaper> HEY! can anyone help me with an onboard sound problem?
[02:44] <MatthewV> rabbit7_, edit /etc/fstab ?
[02:44] <Frogzoo> LTjake: www-data at a guess
[02:44] <Hudson_H> wildman: that was the problem i have,but i don't know where he putted the ia32-libs
[02:44] <rabbit7_> MatthewV: It seems like it used to be something like /etc/usbmount/usbmount.conf but thats not installed
[02:44] <MatthewV> reaper, see if you can find what the chipset of your sound is..
[02:44] <rabbit7_> Matthew: usbmount doesnt have any entrys in fstab..
[02:44] <Nameeater> reaper: ask the question, dont ask for help
[02:45] <LTjake> Frogzoo: i'll give it a whirl.
[02:45] <HackerX> Why is it that one person will start to help you and then when you give a respone as to what happen they are no where to be found
[02:45] <osfameron> Nameeater: bah, fair enough :-)
[02:45] <reaper> MatthewV, Nameeater, im on a notebook,
[02:45] <wildman> ia32-libs are in /usr/lib32 Hudson_H....
[02:45] <MatthewV> rabbit7_, so you're trying to change the umask for a usb device?
[02:45] <reaper> MatthewV, Nameeater, i cant seem to get the sound working
[02:45] <rabbit7_> MatthewV: i mean automount, you know when something gets mounted into /media/BLA
[02:45] <Hudson_H> no like i said,have no usr/lib32 path
[02:45] <Nameeater> reaper: what notebook?
[02:45] <reaper> new toshiba P100
[02:45] <reaper> want a specific model?
[02:45] <MatthewV> reaper, try lspci and see if your soundcard is listed.. if so check for some identifier
[02:46] <wildman> Hudson_H: did u 'sudo apt-get install ia32-libs' ?
[02:46] <MatthewV> rabbit7_, ok, I am not too sure then...
[02:46] <LTjake> Frogzoo: no go. dang.
[02:46] <reaper> MatthewV: im a bit nooby, dno what lspci is!
[02:46] <Nameeater> yea, if its very new tho you may be out of luck for a bit :)
[02:46] <Hudson_H> wildman: ok now i found them :-)
[02:46] <rabbit7_> reaper: take a look at lspci
[02:46] <wildman> Hudson_H: cuz if u didn't install ia32-libs u won't have /usr/lib32....
[02:46] <wildman> Hudson_H: ok :)
[02:46] <HackerX> ugh, ok now im pissed...
[02:46] <reaper> rabbit7_: i dno what lspci is!
[02:46] <MatthewV> reaper, from command line (Applications --> Accessories --> Terminal) type in lspci and hit enter
[02:46] <reaper> Nameeater: yeah, its fairly new,
[02:46] <reaper> ok tah
[02:46] <Hudson_H> wildman: i now gonna check those ln -s things
[02:47] <rabbit7_> MatthewV: yeah mean either.. i was looking for some docs how thats done.. cant find any
[02:47] <rabbit7_> MatthewV: must be some app with some config.. question is where and what up :)
[02:47] <wildman> Hudson_H: ok, remember to prepend 'sudo ' to the shown commands....
[02:47] <reaper> MatthewV: i cant find any audio related devices in that?
[02:48] <reaper> is ICH7 something to do with audio?
[02:48] <MatthewV> reaper, paste the output in pastebin
[02:48] <reaper> 7.1 or something?
[02:48] <reaper> ok
[02:48] <HackerX> ***Wireless card found but wont connect any ideas???***
[02:48] <reaper> HackerX: i updated to latest version and it fixed my wifi card not being found
[02:48] <MatthewV> HackerX, you don't need to repeat your question every minute
[02:48] <Hudson_H> wildman: done that now the next step :-)