[14:01] <ahmedabukilal> hi
[14:02] <erUSUL> ahmedabukilal: hi
[14:02] <ahmedabukilal> i made an irc channel for our loco team
[14:02] <ahmedabukilal> its #ubuntu-iq
[14:03] <ahmedabukilal> but when log in to it now it tell me that openning privat channel failed
[14:04] <ahmedabukilal> Failed to join chat room
[14:05] <m4v> ahmedabukilal: the channel seems to be invite only
[14:05] <ahmedabukilal> but im the one how created it
[14:06] <m4v> you probably need to ask chanserv to invite you
[14:07] <ahmedabukilal> how can i do that
[14:07] <m4v> /msg chanserv help invite
[14:08] <m4v> in any case, is it necessary to have the channel as invite only?
[14:08] <ahmedabukilal> no
[14:10] <m4v> the +i mode is set with mlock, you will need to take a look at "/msg chanserv help set mlock" for remove it
[14:10] <m4v> en the secret flag (+s) would be a good idea to remove as well
[14:11] <m4v> s/en/and/
[14:15] <m4v> the channel is moderated (+m) with mlock as well, where you playing with chanserv? :P
[14:18] <m4v> ahmedabukilal: /msg chanserv set mlock +ntc
[14:18] <m4v> ahmedabukilal: then "/mode #ubuntu-iq -msi" while you're op in you channel
[14:19] <m4v> ah..
[14:19] <m4v> ahmedabukilal: /msg chanserv set #ubuntu-iq mlock +ntc
[14:19] <m4v> forgot the channel name :P
[14:20] <ahmedabukilal> when i do invite command it tell me unknown command
[14:20] <m4v> /msg chanserv invite #ubuntu-iq
[14:21] <ahmedabukilal> it tell me
[14:21] <ahmedabukilal> Failed to open private chat
[14:22] <tsimpson> ahmedabukilal: try joining now
[14:22] <tsimpson> that's why having the IRCC on your access list is good :)
[14:25] <m4v> I don't understand why he's getting that error though..
[14:27] <ahmedabukilal> how can i identfy my self to the server
[14:27] <m4v> you're identified right now
[14:28] <ahmedabukilal> then when i write in ubuntu-iq room
[14:28] <ahmedabukilal> it tell me this
[14:29] <ahmedabukilal> Error sending message 'hi': permission denied
[14:29] <m4v> the channel is moderated, you can write until you're opped
[14:29] <m4v> do this
[14:29] <m4v> /msg chanserv set #ubuntu-iq mlock +ntc
[14:30] <m4v> /msg chanserv op #ubuntu-iq
[14:30] <m4v> /mode #ubuntu-iq -msi
[14:31] <m4v> then you should be able to talk and join normally
[14:31] <ahmedabukilal> it tell me
[14:31] <ahmedabukilal> Failed to open private chat
[14:31] <m4v> I don't know what is causing that :(
[22:47] <Zic> as LoCo ubuntu-fr IRC operators, can you give +F to Ubuntu-fr-IRC on #ubuntu-fr, #ubuntu-fr-admins and #ubuntu-fr-party ?
[22:49] <Zic> and an other not approuved channel this time : #ubuntu-fr-dijon & #ubuntu-fr-moderation
[22:51] <Zic> others* channels* approved* :)
[22:52] <nhandler> Zic: Have you asked the current founder in those channels?
[22:52] <nhandler> _r1_ is founder in #ubuntu-fr and olive is founder in -party
[22:53] <tsimpson> Ubuntu-fr-IRC is also already on the -fr list
[22:53] <nhandler> tsimpson: Yeah, they want +F for it
[22:53] <tsimpson> oh, right
[22:53] <Zic> for #ubuntu-fr-party, I already explain our problem here few days ago (if you want I can copy my request one more time)
[22:54] <Zic> for #ubuntu-fr, _r1_ has nothing to do with the LoCo ubuntu-fr
[22:54] <Zic> he is just the former #ubuntu-fr founder
[22:54] <nhandler> Zic: Have you talked to him about setting Ubuntu-fr-IRC as the founder?
[22:54] <tsimpson> have you asked them to transfer ownership?
[22:54]  * tsimpson must be a little slow today
[22:56] <Zic> yes, many time, he doesn't want, he wants to have a "hand" just in case in the channel but he never used this right and no problems issued on #ubuntu-fr* channel with our actual team since many years
[22:56] <Zic> and now we tried to give +F to Ubuntu-fr-IRC virtual account on #ubuntu-fr* channels
[22:57] <Zic> this account is managed by administrators of the operator teams of #ubuntu-fr* channels
[22:57] <nhandler> Zic: What about olive? Have you tried contacting Olive?
[22:57] <Zic> nhandler: yes, and he claims that if we want access on -party, he must have an access on #ubuntu-fr* channels too
[22:58] <nhandler> Zic: Does _r1_ speak English?
[22:58] <Zic> but olive is not a part of our team
[22:58] <Zic> (and he is one of the problem in #ubuntu-fr-party discussions)
[22:58] <Zic> nhandler: I think so
[22:59] <nhandler> Zic: Alright. I sent r1 a message, but he is probably away right now. I'm going to try talking to him, and we will go from there
[23:01] <Zic> ok, we have no real matters with _r1_ (but we have few as you understood with olive)
[23:02] <nhandler> Zic: Well, olive said that if you get +F in -fr, you can have it in -party, so we'll take this one step at a time
[23:02] <Zic> ok
[23:03] <nhandler> Zic: Did you have any luck contacting the founders of the other channels on your list?
[23:03] <Zic> about #ubuntu-fr-dijon and its operators channel (#ubuntu-fr-moderation) yes
[23:04] <Zic> we recommend to them that they can use ##ubuntu-fr-dijon and ##ubuntu-fr-moderation
[23:04] <Zic> but they did not respect our recommandations
[23:04] <nhandler> Zic: Why? Are they not Ubuntu-fr team channels?
[23:05] <Zic> nhandler: Ubuntu-fr is managed by the Ubuntu-fr association in France, but a local team of the "Dijon french town" wants to create their own channel, #ubuntu-fr-dijon
[23:05] <Zic> Ubuntu-fr association is also the official approved LoCo Ubuntu in France
[23:06] <nhandler> Alright. So it is a completely separate group of people who created -dijon and -moderation
[23:06] <Zic> yes
[23:15] <Zic> just to describe more precisely the situation with _r1_ : he approved our decision and our team roles and does not have a straight opposition to five +F to Ubuntu-fr-IRC
[23:15] <nhandler> Zic: So why didn't he give you +F ?
[23:16] <Zic> he always said that "we are the real admins, he is just the..." arh, I seek the right word in English :>
[23:17] <Zic> the guardian ? the keeper ?
[23:17] <Zic> something like that :)
[23:17] <Zic> nhandler: we have not contact with him since many weeks :s
[23:18] <Zic> he is very busy at this time and, in the past, he said that he will think about it in the future (to give the +F)
[23:18] <nhandler> Alright. I'll see what he has to say when he replies to my message. As for the -dijon and -moderation channels, we are resolving that issue now
[23:22] <Zic> so, for _r1_ we just let him because we want to make it peaceful, but it makes time now... So we requested here to make stuff progressing.
[23:23] <tsimpson> more than one person/account can have +F, iirc
[23:24] <tsimpson> so it may be an idea to share it, at least for now
[23:26] <nhandler> tsimpson: That is correct. I'll remind _r1_ of that when I talk to him
[23:31] <nhandler> Zic: -moderation and -dijon have been renamed
[23:32] <Zic> ok, thanks!
[23:33] <McPeter> thanks


[13:01] <xnox> pleia2: heya, i will not be able to make a catchup.
[13:02] <xnox> pleia2: w.r.t. to current developers there are no active developers that i know off, that have upload rights, yet would somehow fail dmb (... or at least fail to get +1 from) requirements for their upload rights.
[13:03] <xnox> pleia2: there has been little applications lately, but i guess it's because we were frozen.
[13:51] <MooDoo> xnox: oh let it go will you ;)
[13:51]  * MooDoo must trying to stop being funny
[15:01] <barry> o/
[15:01] <caribou> o/
[15:02] <jodh> o/
[15:02] <cyphermox> o/
[15:03] <infinity> \o
[15:03]  * stgraber waves
[15:04] <slangasek> hello hello
[15:04] <bdmurray> \o
[15:05] <slangasek> #startmeeting
[15:05] <meetingology> Meeting started Thu Jun  4 15:05:07 2015 UTC.  The chair is slangasek. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.
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[15:05] <slangasek> [TOPIC] Lightning round
[15:05] <slangasek> $ echo $(shuf -e barry doko stgraber jodh bdmurray slangasek caribou infinity mvo sil2100 robru cyphermox)
[15:05] <slangasek> mvo bdmurray infinity stgraber jodh doko sil2100 barry slangasek cyphermox robru caribou
[15:05] <slangasek> mvo not here? bdmurray
[15:06] <bdmurray> continued to work on improvements to apport-retrace to check launchpad for packages not available in archive or on ddebs.u.c
[15:06] <bdmurray> tested issue with apport-retrace and StacktraceSource being inadequate
[15:06] <bdmurray> wrote a job to backfill system image counters for systems without an alias
[15:06] <bdmurray> tested backfill system image counters for systems without an alias
[15:06] <bdmurray> investigation into error tracker oops reports for webops
[15:06] <bdmurray> checked on error tracker status because of PS4 issues
[15:06] <bdmurray> submitted RT to have errors_static_url updated
[15:06] <bdmurray> updated error tracker assets with Wily Werewolf milestones
[15:06] <bdmurray> foundations bug triage
[15:06] <bdmurray> ✔ done
[15:06] <infinity> - Kernel SRU wrangling
[15:06] <infinity> - Dealt with maas SRUs
[15:06] <infinity> - General SRU and AA work
[15:06] <infinity> - Worked on lts-vivid debian-installer upload, and other HWE bits
[15:06] <infinity> - Validating lts-vivid d-i on 6 architectures
[15:06] <infinity> - Start on reinstalling arm64 buildds with distro kernels
[15:06] <infinity> - Got Mir building on ppc/ppc64el
[15:06] <infinity> (done)
[15:07] <stgraber> LXC, LXD and other container stuff. Working on features for LXD 0.11 to be released next Tuesday.
[15:07] <stgraber> 3 of the 4 LXD/container talks we submitted to LinuxCon/ContainerCon were accepted, so dealing with the logistic of all that a bit.
[15:07] <stgraber> I'm also off tomorrow, then working from Europe next week but only on Monday, Tuesday and Thursday, taking the rest of the week off.
[15:08] <stgraber> (DONE)
[15:08] <jodh> * snappy
[15:08] <jodh>   - selftests
[15:08] <jodh>     - working on failure scenario tests
[15:08] <jodh>     - debugging /boot/grub corruption issue.
[15:08] <jodh> ????
[15:10] <slangasek> ah, doko is off today
[15:10] <slangasek> as is sil2100
[15:10] <slangasek> barry:
[15:10] <barry> si: LP: #1444347; reviewed lp:~caio1982/ubuntu-system-image/remote-sis-generator-skips-metadata
[15:10] <barry> snappy: several discussions & gdoc reviews
[15:10] <barry> debuntu: zope.interface 4.1.2-1 (investigating); python-cachecontrol 0.11.5-1; python-persistent 4.1.0-1 and 4.1.1-1; pip 7 dependencies; python-chameleon-2.22-1 (and debian bug #770136 debian bug #752293); enum34 1.0.4-1; python-pex 1.0.0-1; flufl.password 1.3-2
[15:10] <barry> also: chasing weird python3.4 and python3.5 wily promotion failures
[15:10] <barry> other: python issue 23968 (platform triplets in sys.path)
[15:10] <barry> --done--
[15:11] <slangasek>  * worked through autopilot SRU, and the issues with it being built by the train
[15:11] <slangasek>  * ongoing discussions around go, go shared library support landing upstream
[15:11] <slangasek>  * triaging new list of incoming requests for ppc64el in 15.10
[15:11] <slangasek>  * with barry, landed fix to hardlink delta handling in s-i server
[15:12] <slangasek>  * dropped a transitional channel from the system-image server, because it was moving users from the BQ custom tarball to the community custom tarball with ill effect
[15:12] <slangasek>  * updated update-notifier to use python3 instead of python2 now that its dependencies are in place
[15:12] <slangasek>  * tracking of shim signing request to Microsoft
[15:12] <slangasek> (done)
[15:12] <slangasek> cyphermox:
[15:12] <cyphermox>  * grub2 OsIndicationsSupported fwsetup entry fix for OVMF_1f. (bug 1456911)
[15:12] <cyphermox>  * completing the localechooser merge.
[15:12] <cyphermox>  * UEFI Capsule support
[15:12] <cyphermox>  * re-enable audit support for shadow (bug 1414817)
[15:12] <cyphermox>  * update casper and system-config-kickstart for localechooser.
[15:12] <cyphermox>  * debugging mark-pending-current with plars
[15:12] <cyphermox>  * ubiquity update for wily and new installer bits
[15:12] <cyphermox>  * merge multipath-tools (started)
[15:12] <cyphermox> (done)
[15:12] <robru> * Bileto
[15:12] <robru>  - Implemented disk-backed session store so that more than one worker process function correctly
[15:12] <robru>  - Added lplib support
[15:12] <robru>  - Collected all 6 packages that needed to be backported to trusty in a single PPA.
[15:12] <robru>  - Successful local charm deployment
[15:12] <robru>  - New test suite with 93% coverage
[15:12] <robru>  - improved spreadsheet data import on first run
[15:12] <robru> * cu2d
[15:12] <robru>  - Improved error message when user tries to build trunk against an older ubuntu series
[15:12] <robru>  - fixed bug in handling of manual source packages
[15:12] <robru> (done)
[15:13] <slangasek> caribou:
[15:13] <caribou> slangasek: didn't you get what I just pasted ?
[15:13] <caribou> Bugfix :
[15:13] <caribou>  - Squid deb proxy startup race condition (Bug: 1456662)
[15:13] <slangasek> in this channel? no
[15:14] <caribou>    * Completed SRU
[15:14] <caribou>  - Ceph interference during kdump-tools execution (Bug: 1461429)
[15:14] <caribou>    * Identified udev rule as part of the OSD startup problem
[15:14] <caribou>  - Internal wiki cleanup
[15:14] <caribou> (done)
[15:14] <slangasek> cool, thanks
[15:14] <slangasek> any questions?
[15:15] <slangasek> barry: what are the snappy discussions you're in right now?  python-related, or something else?
[15:15] <barry> slangasek: mostly python related
[15:15]  * slangasek nods
[15:15] <barry> i.e. next step in python snaps
[15:17] <slangasek> [TOPIC] AOB
[15:17] <slangasek> you might all be interested to know that multiple architecture support in scalingstack is coming along
[15:18] <slangasek> I understand we're able to deploy ppc64el compute nodes in the stack, even if they're not allowed to talk to the network afterwards ;)
[15:18] <infinity> That bit's a problem with the openstack setup in Boston in general, not ppc.
[15:18] <infinity> FWIW.
[15:18] <slangasek> so that's exciting and hopefully we'll see more efficient use of our ppc64el hardware soon... as well as our new arm64 hardware coming online for use
[15:18] <infinity> (amd64 instances also can't talk to the world)
[15:18]  * slangasek nods
[15:19] <slangasek> infinity: any new updates on that today, or is that the current state?
[15:19] <infinity> Nothing new from me.
[15:19] <slangasek> also, once we have this working on scalingstack, the next step is to do the same in canonistack so that anyone can request a power or arm64 VM when they need it \o/
[15:20] <barry> nice
[15:20] <cyphermox> yay
[15:20] <slangasek> (not in prodstack though, because none of us needs to run our production services on anything but the default architecture in prodstack :)
[15:21] <infinity> Bah.  prodstack will be 100% POWER by the end of 2017.
[15:21] <slangasek> ok, but you still won't get to /request/ a POWER compute node in prodstack ;)
[15:21] <infinity> (Dear irresponsible Linux "journalists", please take the above out of context without noting the sarcasm)
[15:22] <slangasek> it's actually just going to be the result of linguistic drift
[15:22] <slangasek> prodstack -> pordstack -> powrdstack
[15:22] <infinity> porkstack seems a more likely destination.
[15:23] <slangasek> will our DCEs be responsible for basting it as it slowly rotates?
[15:23] <slangasek> anyway
[15:23] <slangasek> anything else? :)
[15:23] <cyphermox> slangasek: one turn cold side, one turn hot side. you need large pork.
[15:24] <cyphermox> nothing else for the meeting ;)
[15:24] <slangasek> #endmeeting
[15:24] <meetingology> Meeting ended Thu Jun  4 15:24:56 2015 UTC.
[15:24] <meetingology> Minutes:        http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2015/ubuntu-meeting.2015-06-04-15.05.moin.txt
[15:24] <slangasek> thanks, all :)
[15:25] <barry> thanks!
[15:25] <caribou> slangasek: thank!
[15:25] <jodh> thanks!
[16:59] <cprofitt> hello everyone
[16:59] <seb128> hey
[16:59] <willcooke> o/
[16:59] <mhall119> CC catchup with the desktop team and DMB starting now
[17:00] <dholbach> hey hey
[17:00] <mhall119> dholbach: pleia2 czajkowski elfy
[17:00] <mhall119> meeting time
[17:00] <dholbach> yep, pinged the other folks as well
[17:00] <pleia2> o/
[17:01] <mhall119> #startmeeting CC catchup with the desktop team and DMB
[17:01] <meetingology> Meeting started Thu Jun  4 17:01:00 2015 UTC.  The chair is mhall119. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.
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[17:01] <mhall119> #chair cprofitt dholbach pleia2
[17:01] <meetingology> Current chairs: cprofitt dholbach mhall119 pleia2
[17:01] <sabdfl> hello all
[17:01] <dholbach> #topic Catch up with the Desktop Team
[17:01] <willcooke> hi sabdfl
[17:01] <mhall119> hi willcooke and seb128, anyone else here for the desktop team?
[17:01] <dholbach> hey seb128 and willcooke - how are things?
[17:01] <willcooke> mhall119, dholbach - just us I think
[17:01] <seb128> hey there! things are good :-)
[17:02] <mhall119> right, so it's exciting times for the desktop team isn't it? :)
[17:02] <sabdfl> loving the steady stream of news
[17:02] <seb128> mhall119, it's always exciting time in some ways ;-)
[17:02] <dholbach> How was the feedback from the last release? Did you get many bug reports?
[17:03] <willcooke> Release was solid
[17:03] <willcooke> Really impressive considering the under-the-hood changes
[17:03] <cprofitt> how is the convergence going? What exciting things should we expect on 15.10 and 16.04?
[17:03] <mhall119> willcooke: you mean systemd?
[17:03] <seb128> feedback was mostly good, we got reports, as always, but not too many
[17:03] <willcooke> mhall119, ya
[17:04] <mhall119> willcooke: I didn't notice any difference, so very well done to all on that
[17:04] <willcooke> kudos to pitti and didrocks
[17:04] <willcooke> cprofitt, 15.10 will see a Snappy based Desktop Next
[17:04] <willcooke> ready for testing and playing
[17:04] <willcooke> Good news is that the image is now booting :)
[17:04] <cprofitt> The only issue I have had so far is the trash launcher opening up an extra file window.  I would agree it was a good launch.
[17:04] <mhall119> willcooke: what is the play for making that available to people?
[17:05] <mhall119> will it be an ISO, a disk image, a VM image?
[17:06] <willcooke> mhall119, it'll be an "image" to start with but there is installer work currently being looked at by the Snappy team
[17:06] <mhall119> awesome
[17:06] <dholbach> Did you get offers of help for the brave new desktop world? Or new folks who hangout in the channel?
[17:07] <mhall119> so everyone knows, I'll be working with will's team this cycle in my capacity on the Community Team to get more information out to users who wants to try out, test, and contribute to Unity 8 and snappy desktop
[17:07] <seb128> dholbach, not really no
[17:07] <seb128> I think it's a bit too new still
[17:07] <dholbach> do you think there's enough contributors could do to help out?
[17:07] <seb128> we are likely to get more people once things get going
[17:07] <cprofitt> mhall119: just to be clear is there 'normal' desktop and 'snappy' desktop?
[17:07] <dholbach> ok..... still a bit too bleeding edge?
[17:08] <mhall119> cprofitt: there will be both yes
[17:08] <mhall119> IIRC, the "snappy" desktop will only be Mir and Unity 8
[17:08] <willcooke> correct
[17:08] <willcooke> But there are also interesting things going on in the "normal" desktop for U8 and Mir too...
[17:08] <seb128> dholbach, yeah, I guess so
[17:08] <mhall119> cprofitt: though don't get too used to calling the previous way of doing things "normal" :)
[17:08] <willcooke> You can run a U8 session on your desktop
[17:09] <mhall119> willcooke: you mean the LXC packages?
[17:09] <willcooke> and also there is work going on to allow Mir to run in a special way on top of X org,
[17:09] <willcooke> so for example
[17:09] <dholbach> seb128, let us know when you feel it's the right time to reach out to people - I know that many are waiting for the cool new thing - it'd be great if we could involve some of them :)
[17:09] <willcooke> If you're developing an app with Mir, you'll be able to test it our there on your U7/Xorg desktop with out changing sessions
[17:09] <cprofitt> +1 dholbach yes, the desktop side of the house is waiting for the next cool thing.
[17:10] <seb128> dholbach, yeah
[17:10] <cprofitt> Not many of us have devices to help with 'touch'.
[17:10] <dholbach> cool
[17:10] <mhall119> willcooke: so once people have a running instance of Mir/Unity8 from whatever way they get it running, what can they do to help make the snappy desktop better for 15.10?
[17:11] <willcooke> mhall119, besides testing and bug reports - I'd like to see folk using the new Snappy tools and starting to get a good catalogue of apps going
[17:12] <sabdfl> touch devices are rare now, but will become more widespread with win8 / win10
[17:12] <sabdfl> has there been any discussion of installing snappy apps on a deb system?
[17:13] <willcooke> some, but not loads yet.  We need to sort out the confinement story, and X org makes that hard.
[17:14] <willcooke> We could get a container working for that though I expect
[17:15] <mhall119> willcooke: so far all of our snappy packaging docs have been around cloud/IoT apps, what do we have for packaging apps written with the Ubuntu SDK, and is it ready to publish on developer.u.c?
[17:16] <willcooke> mhall119, didrocks is working on that this cycle.  If he hasn't already contacted you about it, he will be soon
[17:16] <mhall119> perfect, thanks
[17:16] <dholbach> nice :-)
[17:16] <willcooke> He was at the SDK sprint this week, so he's full of good ideas :)
[17:17] <dholbach> cool, we should have a chat next week :)
[17:17] <mhall119> willcooke: do you have a short list of apps targeted for default inclusion in snappy desktop? I know we brainstormed a big list in London
[17:17] <willcooke> At the moment it looks like:
[17:18] <mhall119> and is that something community folks can get involved in helping with now, or are there things blocking that work currently?
[17:18] <willcooke> Gedit, Chromium, Libreoffice, Gimp, xchat
[17:18] <willcooke> plus all the default apps from the phone
[17:18] <willcooke> for the first release they will be part of the image
[17:18] <willcooke> but we want to start moving them out in to snaps asap
[17:19] <dholbach> good timing that the core apps folks are working on convergence features now :-)
[17:19] <willcooke> so once the docs are there, and Xmir is in the archive for legacy apps - have at it
[17:19] <mhall119> dholbach: almost like it was planned that way :)
[17:19] <willcooke> dholbach, how about that!  It's almost like we planned it ;)
[17:19] <willcooke> ha
[17:19] <dholbach> :)
[17:20] <mhall119> right, switching gears a bit and going back to Unity 7, I saw that Wily has started syncing with Debian and getting the new Gnome stuff, what's the workload expected there and how can people help?
[17:20] <willcooke> oh, @ default apps - plus the SDK of course
[17:20] <willcooke> mhall119, good question, so...
[17:21] <willcooke> we are working on ways to reduce our maintenance overhead every time we sync with upstream Gnome
[17:21] <willcooke> because it is a fair whack of work
[17:21] <dholbach> I saw a couple of folks helping out with merges and uploads of new versions from gnome
[17:22] <willcooke> yeah, we've got a some really excellent help there, especially from the Ubuntu Gnome team
[17:22] <dholbach> which version of gnome are we going to use this cycle? are we still blocked where some gnome modules can't be updated?
[17:22] <mhall119> I was just going to ask if they were able to help
[17:22] <mhall119> how about the MATE team?
[17:22] <willcooke> dholbach, 3.16
[17:22] <willcooke> dont think we're blocked, seb128?
[17:23] <seb128> we are not
[17:23] <mhall119> always good news to hear
[17:23] <dholbach> one thing which came up in the past was how things worked with other flavours such as xubuntu and ubuntu gnome - are you aware of any current blockers for them?
[17:23] <willcooke> mhall119, @ MATE, I think they are using a much earlier version
[17:23] <seb128> dholbach, no, I don't think so
[17:23] <willcooke> Shouldnt be any blockers for xubuntu
[17:24] <seb128> we just updated gtk to 3.16 today
[17:24] <mhall119> pleia2: ^^
[17:24] <willcooke> and we're working closely with U.Gnome
[17:24] <dholbach> cool... I'm happy that this is largely untangled <3
[17:24] <willcooke> so should be smoothish sailing there
[17:24] <willcooke> plus we've been doing this for a while now, so the guys have got a good process in place
[17:25] <dholbach> is there anything where the desktop team could need some help with?
[17:25] <sabdfl> how are we doing w.r.t. collaboration and coordination around Qt needs for KDE and U8?
[17:25] <sabdfl> pitchforks and torches aside :)
[17:26]  * sabdfl updates to gtk 3.16...
[17:26] <seb128> Qt coordination has been good so far, everybody benefits from getting newer versions and understands that we need to do proper testing and ensure there are no regressions before updating
[17:26] <seb128> so there are been not many frictions so far
[17:26] <pleia2> mhall119: I don't know about any of that
[17:27] <willcooke> dholbach, there might be some interesting work to do with us on the Gtk Mir backend and the Chromium Mir backend
[17:27] <sabdfl> ok
[17:27] <willcooke> we're working on it, but it's a big and interesting problem to solve
[17:27] <sabdfl> glad to hear that
[17:27] <mhall119> seb128: I recall Kubuntu doing a lot of work to get Qt packages building and CI processes in place for Debian, are we taking advantage of that?
[17:27] <dholbach> seb128, do you know if the KDE folks also have some regression tests in the archive?
[17:28] <seb128> mhall119, the more testing is done the better
[17:28] <seb128> so yeah, them doing extra CI/testing is welcome and useful
[17:28] <seb128> dholbach, unsure how much they have
[17:28] <dholbach> ok
[17:29] <dholbach> Mirv would probably know
[17:29] <mhall119> seb128: I mean are we running the same tests after we import to our archives?
[17:29] <seb128> I guess so
[17:29] <mhall119> and contributing fixes or additional tests back to the debian setup
[17:29] <seb128> mhall119, autopkg tests shipped with the package yes
[17:31] <mhall119> alright, we're halfway through our hour, are there any other questions for the Desktop team?
[17:31] <pleia2> I'm enjoying the new weekly meeting summary emails :)
[17:31] <pleia2> so thanks for doing those now
[17:31] <dholbach> I think I'm done - thanks a lot Desktop Team! :-)
[17:31] <seb128> thanks!
[17:31] <cprofitt> yes, thank you desktop team.
[17:31] <mhall119> yes, it's great to see those on the mailing lists
[17:32] <willcooke> pleia2, welcome, and I'll cc the news team too
[17:32] <pleia2> willcooke: appreciated
[17:32] <mhall119> #topic Catch up with the Developer Membership Board
[17:32] <cyphermox> o/
[17:32] <pleia2> 06:01:30 < xnox> pleia2: heya, i will not be able to make a catchup.
[17:32] <pleia2> 06:02:40 < xnox> pleia2: w.r.t. to current developers there are no active developers that i know off, that have upload rights, yet would somehow fail dmb (... or at least fail to get +1 from) requirements for their upload rights.
[17:32] <pleia2> 06:03:04 < xnox> pleia2: there has been little applications lately, but i guess it's because we were frozen.
[17:32] <pleia2> ^^ got that earlier
[17:33] <micahg> o/
[17:33] <mhall119> bdmurray: Laney micahg ScottK stgraber anyone here for the CC catchup?
[17:33] <mhall119> hey micahg
[17:33] <dholbach> hey hey
[17:33] <micahg> hi mhall119
[17:33] <dholbach> how are yo all doing?
[17:34] <cyphermox> yep, I'm here too
[17:34] <cyphermox> dholbach: doing alright!
[17:34] <mhall119> cyphermox: ah,sorry, I knew I forgot someone
[17:34] <cyphermox> no worries.
[17:35] <mhall119> so how many developer applications have you had over the last cycle?
[17:35] <mhall119> rough estimate is fine
[17:35] <micahg> not too many
[17:35] <cyphermox> oh my. micahg, do you know of a number? there weren't any since I got on the DMB
[17:35] <micahg> less than a dozen I think
[17:35] <micahg> probably much less...
[17:36] <mhall119> micahg: and what areas of the project have those been coming from?
[17:36] <micahg> well, Xubuntu has had some interest
[17:37] <micahg> oh, hrm, that might have been before this last cycle
[17:37] <mhall119> still good to know :)
[17:37] <dholbach> I could imagine that people in smaller communities have a bit more of encouraging each other to apply for upload rights.
[17:38] <dholbach> To some I guess it's still somewhat daunting... or just don't think of applying and always ask for sponsorship of their uploads.
[17:38] <micahg> a little interest from cloud team and one for Firefox as well apparently...
[17:38] <mhall119> micahg: how about from Ubuntu Gnome or MATE flavors?
[17:38] <micahg> Ubuntu GNOME has at least one uploader from several cycles back, no one from MATE has applied yet
[17:39] <mhall119> is anyone asking people who frequently ask for and get sponsorships to apply?
[17:39] <mhall119> dholbach: do we have any metrics that will show which people we should reach out to?
[17:40] <dholbach> the developer advisory team unfortunately had to close down because everyone was busy with other things
[17:40] <cyphermox> I've recommended Martin Wimpress to apply from the MATE team, since I've sponsored a few uploads for him
[17:40] <mhall119> cyphermox: what was his reaction to that?
[17:41] <dholbach> but maybe we could generally just ask on the mailing list and see who feels like they got a lot sponsored and have a (maybe private?) chat with them...
[17:41] <cyphermox> as I recall (it was before christmas), he was interested but wanted to wait to get the flavor built with official isos, I should reach out again and possibly mentor
[17:41] <cyphermox> that's a fair idea
[17:42] <dholbach> cyphermox, I'll note it down as something we could maybe plan together :)
[17:42] <cyphermox> sure
[17:42] <dholbach> excellent :)
[17:42] <mhall119> dholbach: thanks for taking that work item
[17:43] <dholbach> I'm not quite sure... was the question about quorum/voting process sufficiently cleared?
[17:43] <mhall119> cyphermox: any other plans for this next cycle to try and boost the number of applicants?
[17:44] <dholbach> it coming up surprised me a bit since I couldn't remember any cases of governance boards running into the issue
[17:44] <seb128> not sure if that's the right meeting to raise that, but the DMB hasn't reviewed Bjoern's application for libreoffice despite several requests/emails to review that again, it's blocked for over a year and not sure what's the way out
[17:45] <micahg> the DMB has always had a different standard for votes, most probably due to the seriousness and impact  of rights being granted
[17:46] <dholbach> could seb128's request be added to the DMB's agenda again?
[17:46] <cyphermox> boosting the number of applicants> it's not exactly something we've discussed so much, aside from how recent changes in the project may have affected people's motivation to apply. for instance, when you can get things in through the CI train, you don't think as much of applying to get upload rights
[17:46] <dholbach> micahg, you had a different voting process for different kinds of upload rights?
[17:46] <mhall119> seb128: IIRC, he was rejected and hasn't officially re-applied, at least that was the conclusion at our last catchup
[17:46] <mhall119> seb128: has he officially re-applied?
[17:46] <seb128> mhall119, define "officially"
[17:47] <seb128> we emailed the DMB asking for application to be re-reviewed
[17:47] <seb128> the email got ignored
[17:47] <micahg> dholbach: no, the standard was +4 instead of just a simple majority with quorum present
[17:47] <mhall119> seb128: whatever the DMB's process is for applications
[17:47] <micahg> seb128: the process is that he should reapply
[17:47] <cyphermox> seb128: I haven't seen a new application from Bjoern since I've been on the DMB, he probably should send an email to the board?
[17:47] <dholbach> micahg, ok, then I misunderstood
[17:47] <micahg> that's the easiest way for it to be reconsidered
[17:47] <seb128> micahg, he's not interested to re-apply due to the way he was treated last time
[17:47] <cyphermox> ah :(
[17:47] <seb128> so I sent an email asking for his application to be re-reviewed
[17:47] <seb128> would have been nice to consider it/respond
[17:47] <mhall119> seb128: so what would you like the DMB to do?
[17:48] <dholbach> could the DMB still go and check the current state of things for his application and move on?
[17:48] <dholbach> and give him a headsup?
[17:48] <seb128> mhall119, re-review his applications without asking him to do whoknowswhatisneeded
[17:48] <dholbach> as an act of courtesy and in the interest of moving on?
[17:49] <mhall119> seb128: I'm unclear what you're asking, and perhaps the DMB is too, areyou asking them to review his application as if he has re-applied? Or just give feedback to him on it so that he can decide to reapply or not?
[17:49] <seb128> mhall119, last time nobody told him clearly what needed to be worked on
[17:49] <seb128> or changed
[17:49] <seb128> so we asked for clarification/re-review his application
[17:49] <seb128> not sure why we just can't get those details
[17:49] <mhall119> ok, so he needs feedback so he can fix his application before re-applying, is that the case?
[17:49] <seb128> yes
[17:50] <seb128> he's not wanting to re-apply without being told what was the issue/wrong with the previous application
[17:50] <cyphermox> seb128: I'll happily look over his application and work it out with him
[17:50] <mhall119> micahg: cyphermox: can you guys try and get that feedback to bjorn in the next week or so?
[17:50] <seb128> cyphermox, thanks
[17:50] <mhall119> thanks cyphermox
[17:50] <dholbach> thanks a lot... I'm superhappy if we can figure this out
[17:50] <cyphermox> ah, I'll try to get that done today or tomorrow, otherwise I'm on vacation for two weeks
[17:50] <pleia2> thanks cyphermox
[17:51] <seb128> cyphermox, enjoy the vac ;-)
[17:51] <mhall119> seb128: if this is still blocked in a month, please let us know so we can followup on it, we don't want this to wait for the next round of catchups
[17:51] <dholbach> yes, have a good time
[17:51] <seb128> mhall119, k
[17:51] <dholbach> is there anything you feel the CC could help the DMB with?
[17:53] <dholbach> sounds like not :)
[17:53] <micahg> well, there's one issue we wanted to bring up, with the recent brouhaha with the CC and the KC, it's resulted in at least one developer no longer working on new releases (http://scarlettgatelyclark.com/2015/kubuntu-statement-from-a-not-so-important-kubuntu-developer), who happened to have been the most active uploader for vivid (http://people.ubuntuwire.org/~stefanor/ubuntu-activity/)
[17:54] <micahg> developer motivation seems to be an issue
[17:54] <dholbach> micahg, we are working with the KC on resolving this
[17:54] <mhall119> micahg: yes, we were all very sad to see that happen, we are trying to work on mending the relationship with the KC and moving forward
[17:55] <micahg> the MOTU channel is hardly active anymore, it seems most of the development focus is in the flavors
[17:55] <dholbach> micahg, that's true - but I think the decline happened much earlier than the recent developments
[17:56] <cyphermox> yes, but we do need people to look after $everything_else
[17:56] <micahg> dholbach: indeed, it's been happening for a while now
[17:56] <micahg> but I'd figure I'd highlight the recent big blow
[17:56] <dholbach> for example: we didn't have anyone organising another "learn packaging" event or somebody who said "let's fix some bugs together - here's a list of stuff"
[17:56] <mhall119> micahg: understood, thanks for bring that up
[17:57] <dholbach> and I think it's understandable if people work on flavours
[17:57] <mhall119> micahg: cyphermox: other than mending fences, do you have any recommendations or ideas for boosting motivation?
[17:57] <dholbach> where the focus is smaller and the set of problems to work on is much more targetted
[17:57] <dholbach> I think that might be a contributing factor as well
[17:58] <micahg> yes, but it also has the unfortunate side effect of siloing things sometiems
[17:58] <mhall119> that might not be a bad thing, of some people focus on their silo, as long as there is another (smaller) group working across those silos
[17:58] <micahg> mhall119: well, I know that dholbach used to do a lot of activities to help spurn developer interest back in the day, I'm not sure anyones is doing that anymore
[17:58] <cprofitt> micahg: do you think some of the steam has to do with the recent focus on clound and touch?
[17:59] <pleia2> micahg: I hope you meant spur :)
[17:59] <micahg> pleia2: yes, spur
[17:59] <mhall119> pleia2: he's *very* persuasive :)
[17:59] <pleia2> hehe
[17:59] <mhall119> micahg: can the DMB pick up some of those activities?
[18:00] <mhall119> or give it to one specific person in the DMB
[18:00] <mhall119> maybe cycling it through each month?
[18:00] <dholbach> and/or we could bring it up on the mailing list and see who would be willing to organise a small thing soon
[18:00] <cyphermox> it's something to discuss, we can add it to the agenda
[18:00] <mhall119> I know that's not really in the DMB's mandate, but if it helps motivate people it's certainly something within your wheelhouse
[18:01] <micahg> well, another problem is that the word developer in Ubuntu is overloaded, see http://developer.ubuntu.com/en/
[18:01] <pleia2> indeed, it is confusing
[18:01] <mhall119> micahg: yeah, this is true
[18:02] <mhall119> what are our options for clearing that up?
[18:02] <micahg> there's nothing there's nothing really on that side about the archive I believe which is the purview of the DMB
[18:02] <micahg> wow, :9
[18:02] <micahg> ugh
[18:02] <dholbach> I think on the pages where we introduce people to our community, we do a passable job of explaining that developing can be everything including writing an app or integrating a patch or working on CI infrastructure or anything else
[18:02] <dholbach> and if not, we should fix it :)
[18:03] <mhall119> is there a similar site for distro-development?
[18:03] <dholbach> packaging.ubuntu.com
[18:04] <dholbach> it's for documentation about ubuntu development
[18:04] <dholbach> and they're both linked from community.ubuntu.com
[18:04] <dholbach> maybe we can all (later on) have a look at the pages in question and see if we explain the different routes of development well enough
[18:05] <pleia2> sounds good
[18:05] <mhall119> dholbach: we can maybe put something up under https://developer.ubuntu.com/en/community/ as well
[18:05] <mhall119> that way it would turn up in searches on developer.u.c too
[18:05] <dholbach> ah yes
[18:05] <dholbach> I'll file a bug
[18:05] <mhall119> dholbach: can you and I work together on that?
[18:06] <dholbach> sure
[18:06] <dholbach> bug 1462049 :)
[18:07] <mhall119> alright, we're over time, any other questions for or from the DMB?
[18:07] <dholbach> I think I'm done
[18:07] <micahg> I think that's it, thanks
[18:07] <dholbach> excellent - thanks a lot everyone!
[18:07] <elfy> thanks DMB - I turned up late but managed to catch up a short while ago :)
[18:08] <mhall119> oh, one last thing, do we still do Developer Week online classes?
[18:08] <cyphermox> thanks!
[18:08] <cyphermox> mhall119: I think we should
[18:08] <dholbach> I don't think we did ubuntu app developer week or developer week in a while
[18:08] <dholbach> we could have added a couple of classes to the last UOS
[18:08] <mhall119> cyphermox: it would need some folks to step up and organize it
[18:09] <cyphermox> but as I recall seeing developer week got kind of merged in open week or whatever it was called last time
[18:09] <dholbach> especially once git fully lands on LP, it'll be good to have a session about the workflow and everything
[18:09] <mhall119> cyphermox: right, and I think we tried to run it like UOS
[18:09] <cyphermox> possibly
[18:10] <dholbach> let's chat about it when we're going to talk about the other idea :)
[18:10] <cyphermox> it's one more thing that needs reaching out on -devel@ perhaps, and see who's interested.
[18:10] <dholbach> yes
[18:10] <cyphermox> sure
[18:10] <mhall119> cool, if we can get volunteers we can make that happen again
[18:11] <mhall119> alright, thanks micahg and cyphermox
[18:11] <dholbach> yes, thanks a bunch!
[18:11] <mhall119> #topic Any other business
[18:11] <mhall119> we're already over-time, but is there any other topic anybody wanted to bring up?
[18:11]  * mhall119 hopes no other team is waiting on this channel
[18:11] <dholbach> nothing on the agenda page at least
[18:13] <mhall119> alright, thanks everyone!
[18:13] <dholbach> all right my friends - I'll start into the evening activities! have a good one!
[18:13] <mhall119> #endmeeting
[18:13] <meetingology> Meeting ended Thu Jun  4 18:13:06 2015 UTC.
[18:13] <meetingology> Minutes:        http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2015/ubuntu-meeting.2015-06-04-17.01.moin.txt
[18:13] <micahg> thanks
[18:48] <olive> hello
[18:49] <olive> maybe I'll be late
[18:59] <sarnold> olive: looking for this? http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2015/ubuntu-meeting.2015-06-04-17.01.moin.txt
[19:00] <toddy> olive: you are looking for this: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Membership/Boards#A20:00 ?
[19:00] <toddy> that is in an hour
[19:00] <toddy> other timezone
[19:01] <Kilos> yip first meeting is in an hour with 4 applicants
[19:02] <Kilos> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Membership/Boards#A22:00
[19:02] <sarnold> ah :D
[19:02] <Kilos> that shows them all
[19:04] <Kilos> the 20.00 timeslot will still be added to the fridge
[19:05] <cm-t> yes, in 55min !
[19:06] <cm-t> You can come say hi if you want ;)  visio there, we are in ubuntu hour for the application
[19:06] <cm-t> https://meet.jit.si/UbuntuMember
[19:06] <cm-t> (work with chromium)
[19:09] <Kilos> aw i cant do live
[19:09] <Kilos> visio
[19:12] <ahoneybun> I'll be around for the 22 UTC meeting
[19:12] <Kilos> ty ahoneybun
[19:17] <ahoneybun> np
[19:22] <Kilos> cm-t  please make my apologies, my mobile connection cant do visio
[19:23] <cm-t> Kilos: no problem ;)
[19:23] <cm-t> maybe you had enought connection to see my face ;)
[19:23] <Kilos> let me just get more data and ill try
[19:25] <cm-t> olive has arrived !!!
[19:25] <winael> there's visio in irc ??? Oo
[19:28] <cm-t> winael: as we are in an ubuntu hour in Paris to celebrate explain how ububuntu member work, we dicided to open a visio for those who want to see our face
[19:29] <cm-t> https://meet.jit.si/UbuntuMember
[19:29] <cm-t> you can join ;)
[19:29] <cm-t> we have beers
[19:29] <Kilos> hehe
[19:29] <cm-t> work with chromium
[19:29] <cm-t> ,)
[19:30] <cm-t> if you don't see my face winael , means you need to try with chromium, not firefox
[19:30] <cm-t> also, accept the cam/micro
[19:31] <olive> _o/
[19:32] <cm-t>       \o_
[19:33] <winael> I was with my baby sorry
[19:33] <winael> I'll try
[19:35] <winael> ok I'm connected to the others french members \o/
[19:36] <olive> Camille is with us http://www.commentcamarche.net/news/5859144-ubuntu-beaucoup-plus-intuitif-que-windows
[19:47] <YoBoY> Hi
[19:48] <Kilos> hi YoBoY
[19:48] <winael> Hum meet.jit.si doesn't work with oxyde on the phone, maybe due to the apparmor restriction
[19:49] <Kilos> eats mobile data too
[19:49] <winael> I'll try later to build a webapp and add the profile mic and cam to try
[19:52] <winael> Kilos, in France we have mobile carrier that offer lot's of data (3 Go) and it could be great when you are closed to an open WiFi connexion
[19:52] <Kilos> ah , its expensive in south africa
[19:53] <elacheche_anis> ki7mt, a chage in the last minute ;)
[19:53] <cm-t> I think winael is talking about mobile.free.fr which offer a 20€ (or 15€ if you have the box) monthly fees
[19:53] <cm-t> with 4G
[19:53] <cm-t> for 20 Go
[19:53] <Kilos> nice
[19:53] <cm-t> or 3G with 3Go
[19:54] <cm-t> I think so ;)
[19:54] <winael> cm-t, but there's no 4G ubuntuphone for now :'(
[19:54] <ki7mt> elacheche_anis, Yes, apologies, was to accommodate my package sponsor attending, as he is in California
[19:54] <cm-t> winael: worng !! Meizu MX4 !
[19:54] <winael> now MX4 in europe woill arrive in few weeks.
[19:55] <winael> and the time to receive it... so no Ubuntuphone with 4G in France before July
[19:56] <elacheche_anis> ki7mt, I have no problem with that.. I need to apologize because I missed the other meeting..
[19:56] <cm-t> 3 minutes !
[19:56] <cm-t> olive: get ready
[19:56] <ki7mt> elacheche_anis, If I have a pence for every meeting I missed, well, lets just say I could give allot of dosh to charity :-)
[19:57] <elacheche_anis> :D
[19:57] <Kilos> :)
[19:58] <olive> hmmm what is happening her ? :)
[19:58] <elacheche_anis> This will be my first time chairing a meeting with the membership board, so please take it easy on me :D
[19:58] <olive> here*
[19:58] <elacheche_anis> olive, will review you're membership application in minutes dude :D
[19:58] <elacheche_anis> Bonsoir :)
[19:58] <cm-t> olive: https://meet.jit.si/UbuntuMember !
[19:58] <toddy> elacheche: \o/
[19:59] <toddy> elacheche_anis: \o/
[19:59] <Kilos> o/
[20:00] <Kilos> evening all , and hi to the new aplicants
[20:00] <cm-t> hi !
[20:00] <olive> hello my name is olive and I don't speak english. ;)
[20:00] <Kilos> lol
[20:00] <olive> my wiki page is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/OlivierFraysse
[20:01] <elacheche_anis> olive, I can translate for you, let's just start
[20:01] <cm-t> i will help him, we are sit close to him (ubuntu hour, we are ~10 there )
[20:01] <elacheche_anis> Quite please :D We are starting the meeting :D
[20:01] <elacheche_anis> Un instant olive on a pas encore commencé :D
[20:01] <olive> ça fait 11 ans que je fais partie de l'asso ubuntu francophone
[20:01] <Kilos> elacheche_anis  start the bot
[20:01] <quesh> :)
[20:01] <olive> ah ok
[20:02] <elacheche_anis> #startmeeting 20 UTC Membership Board Meeting
[20:02] <meetingology> Meeting started Thu Jun  4 20:02:01 2015 UTC.  The chair is elacheche_anis. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.
[20:02] <meetingology> Available commands: action commands idea info link nick
[20:02] <elacheche_anis> Ok, who is here for the meeting?
[20:02] <idrogn> hi
[20:02] <Kilos> o/
[20:02] <olive> ok. hello :)
[20:02] <toddy> o/
[20:02] <YoBoY> o/
[20:02] <winael> o/
[20:02]  * cm-t I will be after olive , then karum_ , then winael
[20:02] <popey> o/
[20:03] <olive> c'est cm-t qui m'a obligé à candidater ici
[20:03] <olive> ça sert à quoi ? ;)
[20:03] <elacheche_anis> Hello and welcome to the Membership Board meeting! The wiki page for
[20:03] <elacheche_anis> the Review Board is available here:
[20:03] <elacheche_anis> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Membership/Boards. We will attempt to get
[20:03] <elacheche_anis> through all of the applicants that have added themselves to that list
[20:03] <elacheche_anis> before today's meeting. If we are unable to make it through the entire
[20:03] <elacheche_anis> list due to time constraints, then at the next meeting we will pick up
[20:03] <elacheche_anis> where we left off. The format for the meeting is as follows: We will go
[20:03] <elacheche_anis> through the list of applicants one by one, by date of application
[20:03] <elacheche_anis> (FIFO). Each applicant should introduce themselves (1-5 sentences) and
[20:03] <elacheche_anis> provide links to their Ubuntu Wiki page. After the introduction the
[20:03] <elacheche_anis> members of the Membership Review Board will review the pages and, if
[20:03] <olive> I'm joking
[20:03] <elacheche_anis> needed, ask the applicant further questions. During this time it is
[20:03] <elacheche_anis> encouraged for other members of the community to show their support for
[20:03] <elacheche_anis> the applicant. Do not be alarmed if the members of the Membership Review
[20:03] <elacheche_anis> Board are quiet during this time; they are most likely reading
[20:03] <elacheche_anis> wiki/launchpad/forum/other pages and deciding how they are going to
[20:03] <elacheche_anis> vote.
[20:03] <elacheche_anis> Let's start
[20:04] <elacheche_anis> #topic olive
[20:04] <olive> Ok. so my name is olive
[20:04] <elacheche_anis> olive, introduce yourself please, and give as a link for wiki and LP
[20:05] <olive> I'm french, I don't speak english
[20:05] <olive> my wiki is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/OlivierFraysse
[20:05] <olive> and I love you
[20:05] <Kilos> ty
[20:05] <elacheche_anis> #voters hggdh wxl toddy belkinsa elacheche_anis popey PabloRubianes mapreri Kilos
[20:05] <meetingology> Warning: Nick not in channel: belkinsa
[20:05] <meetingology> Current voters: Kilos PabloRubianes belkinsa elacheche_anis hggdh mapreri popey toddy wxl
[20:05] <olive> (I know some words in english. yeah)
[20:05] <olive> my LP : https://launchpad.net/people/olivier.fraysse
[20:06] <elacheche_anis> olive, présent toi en Français, je vais essayer de traduire :)
[20:06]  * cm-t olive have also a french wiki, with more detailled actions https://doc.ubuntu-fr.org/utilisateurs/olive
[20:06] <olive> bah heu, je suis je crois le plus ancien des membres de l'asso ubuntu francophone
[20:06] <toddy> nice event: https://2015.rmll.info/?lang=fr
[20:06] <olive> et donc un des plus anciens de la communauté que j'ai vu naitre
[20:07] <cm-t> he say: he think he is the most ancient member of our loco right now
[20:07] <Kilos> lol
[20:07] <cm-t> (ubuntu-fr)
[20:07] <Kilos> age?
[20:07] <cm-t> ancient not in age, ancient as he was in the first there
[20:07] <Kilos> aha
[20:07] <olive> j'ai aidé l'asso à être présent dans des événements de promotion du Libre et d'Ubuntu, essentiellement à Paris (France)
[20:07] <cm-t> (sorry my english is not perfect too ;) )
[20:07] <winael> he saw us born
[20:07] <Kilos> np
[20:07] <olive> :)
[20:08] <winael> he helped the Loco to be present in FLOSS events
[20:08] <olive> et j'ai mangé des croissants avec Mark Shuttleworth un jour
[20:08] <cm-t> he says: I've help ubuntu-fr to be on event of freesoftware advocating and ubuntu  mostly in Paris
[20:08] <winael> essentialy based in Paris
[20:08] <olive> enfin, devant lui. (lui il buvait de l'eau)
[20:08] <elacheche_anis> OK than, anyone have questions for olive
[20:09] <toddy> yes, there are many events on your wikipage you have supported. nice.
[20:09] <popey> Some good testimonials there
[20:09] <cm-t> he said: we took a croissant and pain aux chocolat with sabdfl in 2014
[20:09] <Kilos> olive  can you keep up the good work till you are ancient in age too?
[20:09] <cm-t> popey: he is the historic member of ubuntu-fr
[20:10] <elacheche_anis> OK.. Merci olive et les gars pour la traduction :D On passe aux questions :)
[20:10] <cm-t> Kilos: I didnt mean he is ancient in age !! but in the team, sorry for the wrong wording
[20:10] <winael> he is not ancient in age :) but he help to create the LoCo
[20:10] <Kilos> nono thats cool, i asked will he keep up the good work till he is old too
[20:11] <elacheche_anis> olive, Kilos veux savoir si tu pense que tu restras active lorsque tu sera plus agé (comme lui) x)
[20:11] <toddy> olive: do you have a blog on ths planet? http://planet.ubuntu-fr.org/
[20:11] <olive> Yes I do
[20:11] <olive> I'm 32 years old
[20:11] <Kilos> good then 30 more to go
[20:11] <Kilos> keep it up
[20:12] <olive> no I don't
[20:12] <wxl> ok what did i miss?
[20:12] <elacheche_anis> ochosi, Kilos dit qu'il te reste encore 30 :D
[20:12] <olive> but I write articles in ubuntu-party.org
[20:12] <elacheche_anis> #votesrequired 4
[20:12] <meetingology> votes now need 4 to be passed
[20:12] <popey> +1
[20:12] <Kilos> +1
[20:12] <popey> uh
[20:12] <popey> is the bot working?
[20:12] <toddy> ah, cool, olive
[20:13] <elacheche_anis> toddy,
[20:13] <popey> oh, you haevn't called a vote
[20:13] <toddy> +1 good work
[20:13] <cm-t> he also post on twitter with @ubuntuparty
[20:13] <elacheche_anis> popey, we didn't start the vote yet, am just configuring the bot
[20:13] <elacheche_anis> OK.. Anyone here to support olive?
[20:13] <cm-t> i do !!
[20:13] <elacheche_anis> Anyo,e else have questions or we vote?
[20:13] <winael> Yeah I'm I
[20:13] <olive> I do !!
[20:13] <olive> :p
[20:13] <idrogn> I do
[20:14] <quesh> i do
[20:14] <elacheche_anis> Nice support squad :)
[20:14] <toddy> lets vote :)
[20:14] <YoBoY> I do !
[20:14] <cm-t> mafia-fr
[20:14] <wxl> vote!
[20:14] <YoBoY> in the place :D
[20:14] <elacheche_anis> #startvote For olive Membership?
[20:14]  * cwayne1 is around if we need more voters btw
[20:14] <elacheche_anis> +1
[20:14] <Kilos> +1
[20:14] <popey> that didnt start the vote did it?
[20:14] <wxl> no
[20:14] <elacheche_anis> don't think so :/
[20:14] <Kilos> ai!
[20:15] <olive> lol
[20:15] <Kilos> ty cwayne
[20:15] <elacheche_anis> #vote For olive Membership?
[20:15] <meetingology> Please vote on: For olive Membership?
[20:15] <meetingology> Public votes can be registered by saying +1, +0 or -1 in channel, (for private voting, private message me with 'vote +1/-1/+0 #channelname)
[20:15] <elacheche_anis> Here we go :D
[20:15] <elacheche_anis> +1
[20:15] <meetingology> +1 received from elacheche_anis
[20:15] <toddy> :D
[20:15] <Kilos> +1
[20:15] <meetingology> +1 received from Kilos
[20:15] <toddy> +1 good work olive. thanks for the good Ubuntu Support
[20:15] <meetingology> +1 good work olive. thanks for the good Ubuntu Support received from toddy
[20:15] <popey> +1
[20:15] <meetingology> +1 received from popey
[20:15] <wxl> +1 for acting as a member without being one!
[20:15] <meetingology> +1 for acting as a member without being one! received from wxl
[20:15] <elacheche_anis> Anyone else?
[20:16] <elacheche_anis> And there is +2 from belkinsa & PabloRubianes (ML)
[20:16] <elacheche_anis> #endvote
[20:16] <meetingology> Voting ended on: For olive Membership?
[20:16] <meetingology> Votes for:5 Votes against:0 Abstentions:0
[20:16] <meetingology> Motion carried
[20:16] <elacheche_anis> Congrats olive
[20:16] <popey> \o/
[20:16] <cm-t> \o/
[20:16] <quesh> :)
[20:16] <YoBoY> Good work olive, FINALY After sooooooo long time :D
[20:16] <winael> congrats olive \o/
[20:16] <olive> thanks !
[20:16] <Kilos> olive  welcome to the team
[20:17] <idrogn> :)
[20:17] <cm-t> Bien joué !
[20:17] <olive> See you at the next ubuntu party ;)
[20:17] <quesh> \o/
[20:17] <cm-t> yeah, everybody is welcome at our french ubucon !
[20:17] <YoBoY> +42
[20:17] <elacheche_anis> Will discuss that later :D
[20:17] <elacheche_anis> cm-t, is next
[20:17] <wxl> congrats olive!!!
[20:18] <elacheche_anis> #topic cm-t
[20:18] <winael> \o/ cm-t \o_
[20:18] <cm-t> hi
[20:18] <olive> hihi
[20:18] <elacheche_anis> cm-t, introduce yourself, and paste LP & wiki link please :)
[20:18] <toddy> hi cm-t
[20:19] <cm-t> Hi, My name is Rudy also knowd as cm-t, Im 27 and live in Paris. I'm with ubuntu since 2008 !
[20:19] <cm-t> this is my wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/~cm-t
[20:19] <cm-t> and my lp is https://launchpad.net/~cm-t
[20:19] <elacheche_anis> Any questions for cm-t ?
[20:19] <elacheche_anis> Meanwhile let the guys checkout the links :)
[20:20] <wxl> holy contributions batman O_O
[20:21] <cm-t> Ive opened my page for years I think, it help to gather informations, even small one
[20:21] <toddy> you have a good google+ page: https://plus.google.com/+cmtarudy/posts
[20:21] <wxl> i love how involved you are in marketing ubuntu, yet also working hard on solid contributions to improving it
[20:21] <cm-t> toddy: thank !
[20:21] <cm-t> wxl: thank !
[20:22] <wxl> as a loco council member, i'm excited to hear more about ubuntu-party
[20:22] <cm-t> yes, I think we lack of online presence, so I started my g+ for that
[20:22] <wxl> (meaningm, in the future, at least) :)
[20:22] <cm-t> As I said in my wiki, I should open my blog
[20:23] <toddy> cm-t: how many school projects do you have made?
[20:23] <cm-t> toddy: All my school project I did were made on ubuntu, even for .NET and all
[20:24] <elacheche_anis> Il veut savoir combien de projets?
[20:24] <toddy> cm-t: and was it a success?
[20:24] <cm-t> but there is only 1 project that was for ubuntu, the oneconf in ubiquity
[20:24] <cm-t> toddy: yeah !
[20:24] <cm-t> toddy: I forgot to mention, I was in the ubuntu club I created at my school
[20:25] <cm-t> 5 people went on ubuntu in my classroom
[20:25] <toddy> cool
[20:25] <cm-t> I hope they are still using it !
[20:25] <elacheche_anis> That's nice :)
[20:25] <elacheche_anis> Any other questions?? People here to support cm-t ?
[20:25] <idrogn> I do
[20:25] <winael> I do
[20:26] <quesh> i do
[20:26] <olive> I do !
[20:26] <elacheche_anis> All The ubuntu-fr squad is here tonight :D
[20:26] <toddy> :D http://spreadubuntu.org/fr/material/unusual/ubuntu-robots nice work
[20:26] <YoBoY> I support cm-t
[20:26] <olive> as a ubuntu member, I really do.
[20:26] <cm-t> toddy: thank again !
[20:26] <quesh> no, only a few ones
[20:26] <elacheche_anis> Time to vote then..
[20:26] <elacheche_anis> #votesrequired 4
[20:26] <meetingology> votes now need 4 to be passed
[20:26] <cyphermox> fwiw, I'm here to cheer for cm-t as well :)
[20:26] <cm-t> we are only 10 there
[20:26] <cm-t> indeed we are more than 10 ;)
[20:27] <elacheche_anis> #vote For cm-t Membership?
[20:27] <meetingology> Please vote on: For cm-t Membership?
[20:27] <meetingology> Public votes can be registered by saying +1, +0 or -1 in channel, (for private voting, private message me with 'vote +1/-1/+0 #channelname)
[20:27] <cm-t> hey cyphermox !
[20:27] <cm-t> nice to meet you there :D
[20:27] <elacheche_anis> +1
[20:27] <meetingology> +1 received from elacheche_anis
[20:27] <Kilos> +1
[20:27] <meetingology> +1 received from Kilos
[20:27] <toddy> +1 good work. that is very nice to see: http://spreadubuntu.org/fr/material/unusual/ubuntu-robots <- I have bookmarked it.
[20:27] <meetingology> +1 good work. that is very nice to see: http://spreadubuntu.org/fr/material/unusual/ubuntu-robots <- I have bookmarked it. received from toddy
[20:28] <elacheche_anis> popey, wxl !
[20:28] <popey> Easy...
[20:28] <popey> +1
[20:28] <meetingology> +1 received from popey
[20:28] <popey> :)
[20:29] <elacheche_anis> Let's don't forget about PabloRubianes & belkinsa votes → +2 :D
[20:29] <elacheche_anis> No more votes?
[20:29] <Kilos> wxl  ?
[20:29] <wxl> +1
[20:29] <meetingology> +1 received from wxl
[20:29] <wxl> sorry
[20:29] <wxl> lunch
[20:29] <elacheche_anis> #endvote
[20:29] <meetingology> Voting ended on: For cm-t Membership?
[20:29] <meetingology> Votes for:5 Votes against:0 Abstentions:0
[20:29] <meetingology> Motion carried
[20:30] <cm-t> bon apétit wxl
[20:30] <elacheche_anis> Welcome aboard cm-t :)
[20:30] <cm-t> \o/
[20:30] <cm-t> thank you all !!
[20:30] <YoBoY> Congrats cm-t :D
[20:30] <idrogn> :)
[20:30] <winael> sahtein wxl
[20:30] <quesh> \o/
[20:30] <popey> \o/
[20:30] <olive> woot
[20:30] <Kilos> congrats cm-t  welcome
[20:30] <toddy> Congrats cm-t!
[20:30] <wxl> congrats you deserve it cm-t!
[20:30] <winael> \o/ cm-t \o-
[20:30] <cm-t> drinking my beer then ! https://meet.jit.si/UbuntuMember
[20:30] <elacheche_anis> #voters marcoceppi
[20:30] <meetingology> Current voters: Kilos PabloRubianes belkinsa elacheche_anis hggdh mapreri marcoceppi popey toddy wxl
[20:31] <elacheche_anis> The next one is karum_
[20:31] <elacheche_anis> Are you here?
[20:31] <marcoceppi> o/
[20:31] <karum_> yes
[20:31] <karum_> hi
[20:31] <elacheche_anis> #topic karum
[20:31] <karum_> my english is so bad so i'll speak french
[20:32] <elacheche_anis> Welcome karum_ , please introduce yourself and paste a link for LP & Wiki, I'll translate
[20:32] <cm-t> I ll traduct!
[20:32] <karum_> https://launchpad.net/~thomas-joossen-gmail
[20:32] <cm-t> translate…
[20:32] <karum_> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/~karum
[20:33] <karum_> je m'appelle thomasj'ai48 ans,
[20:33] <karum_> j'utilise ubuntu depuis 2006, mais linux depuis 18 ans
[20:33] <cm-t> Hi, my name is thomas and I'm 48 !
[20:34] <cm-t> he says: I use ubuntu since 2006 but Linux for 18years
[20:34] <Kilos> nice
[20:35] <elacheche_anis> Any questions for karum_ ?
[20:35] <olive> Are you developper ?
[20:35] <quesh> :)
[20:35] <toddy> karum_: what do you have made on the Ubuntu Partys? what activities?
[20:35] <mapreri> umh
[20:35] <karum_> non, je ne suis pas developeur,
[20:35] <cm-t> no, i'm not a developer
[20:35] <mapreri> does every ubuntu member have voting rights by default?
[20:36] <elfy> mapreri: no - just the board
[20:36] <popey> well, depends what for
[20:36] <elacheche_anis> mapreri, no only the membership board can vote
[20:36] <popey> every ubuntu member gets to vote for members on the community council
[20:36] <mapreri> elfy: then i'm wondering why i ended up in the list of #voters above :)
[20:36] <Kilos> hi elfy
[20:36] <karum_> je me suis ocuupé de la sonorisation des conférences
[20:36] <popey> hah
[20:36] <popey> elacheche_anis: ^
[20:36] <cm-t> he says: I manage the sound for conferences
[20:37] <cm-t> during ubuntu parties
[20:37] <karum_> et depuis 2 ans je m'occupe de la restauration des bénévoles
[20:37] <elacheche_anis> myfault.. :(
[20:37] <cm-t> he says: and since 2 years I manage the meals for our volounteers
[20:37] <wxl> karum_: outside of helping to support ubuntu-fr events, what other contributions have you made/plan to do?
[20:37] <cm-t> ( 2 years = 4 ubuntu party)
[20:37] <cm-t> ( 1 ubuntu party = ~100 volounteers)
[20:37] <mapreri> elacheche_anis: the fact is: i can't see where you told meetingology to add me, that is
[20:37] <mapreri> anyway, /me vanishes again o/
[20:38] <elacheche_anis> #voters all
[20:38] <meetingology> Everyone can now vote
[20:38] <toddy> karum_: which distribution do you use before Ubuntu?
[20:38] <olive> karum is a very good cooker !
[20:38] <karum_> je parle d'ubuntu dans mon entourage, au travaille
[20:38] <elacheche_anis> #voters Kilos PabloRubianes belkinsa elacheche_anis hggdh marcoceppi popey toddy wxl
[20:38] <meetingology> Warning: Nick not in channel: belkinsa
[20:38] <meetingology> Current voters: Kilos PabloRubianes belkinsa elacheche_anis hggdh marcoceppi popey toddy wxl
[20:38] <olive> (for the ubuntu party)
[20:38] <mapreri> :)
[20:38]  * elacheche_anis didn't add mapreri :D meetingology is bugging
[20:38] <karum_> toddy: j'utilisais mandriva
[20:38] <cm-t> he says : I talk about ubuntu to the people I meant in my life, at work…
[20:39] <cm-t> he says: I sued to run Mandriva before ubuntu
[20:39] <Kilos> word of mouth is where i learned about ubuntu
[20:39] <elacheche_anis> So.. Any other questions for karum_ ?
[20:39]  * cm-t I add: he saved at least 1 webcafé by joinning the team
[20:40] <elacheche_anis> #votesrequired 4
[20:40] <meetingology> votes now need 4 to be passed
[20:40] <wxl> karum_: outside of helping to support ubuntu-fr events, what other contributions have you made/plan to do?
[20:40] <karum_> je participe aux autres évênements publics d'ubuntu: festivals par exemple
[20:41] <elacheche_anis> #chair elacheche_anis
[20:41] <meetingology> Current chairs: elacheche_anis
[20:41] <cm-t> he says: I join other event of ubuntu-fr like the webcafé in music festival
[20:41] <cm-t> he says (typing)
[20:41] <karum_> j'ai fait quelques propositions de traduction sur launchpad
[20:42] <cm-t> he says: I've made some translate on lauchpad
[20:42] <cm-t> launchpad
[20:42] <wxl> translations are super important
[20:42] <Kilos> very
[20:42] <idrogn> I may add that we (as french Loco council) want him to join our board
[20:42] <wxl> i think that's one of the best thing you can do as a non-english-speaking contributor
[20:43] <Kilos> i agree, we will need fench translations for africa soon
[20:43] <Kilos> french
[20:43] <YoBoY> Translator teams always need help, so many packages descriptions to do yet… :D
[20:44] <elacheche_anis> Nice work karum_
[20:44] <toddy> YoBoY: Yes, I know
[20:44] <wxl> k well i for one am satisified and ready to vote
[20:44] <popey> same
[20:44] <Kilos> same
[20:44] <elacheche_anis> Good
[20:44] <elacheche_anis> #vote For karum_  Membership?
[20:44] <meetingology> Please vote on: For karum_  Membership?
[20:44] <meetingology> Public votes can be registered by saying +1, +0 or -1 in channel, (for private voting, private message me with 'vote +1/-1/+0 #channelname)
[20:44] <popey> +1
[20:44] <meetingology> +1 received from popey
[20:44] <popey> Excellent!
[20:44] <elacheche_anis> +1
[20:44] <meetingology> +1 received from elacheche_anis
[20:44] <wxl> +1 keep up the good work
[20:44] <meetingology> +1 keep up the good work received from wxl
[20:44] <Kilos> +1keep it up
[20:44] <meetingology> +1keep it up received from Kilos
[20:44] <cm-t> NB; idrogn is talking as our president
[20:44] <popey> Really great to see all these long standing contributions
[20:44] <popey> \o/
[20:44] <toddy> +1 next time, when I am in french I hope I am on an ubuntu party and you cook something :)
[20:44] <meetingology> +1 next time, when I am in french I hope I am on an ubuntu party and you cook something :) received from toddy
[20:44] <cm-t> \o/
[20:44] <cm-t> Bienvenue !!!
[20:45] <wxl> hahah i concur toddy :)
[20:45] <elacheche_anis> #endvote
[20:45] <meetingology> Voting ended on: For karum_  Membership?
[20:45] <meetingology> Votes for:5 Votes against:0 Abstentions:0
[20:45] <meetingology> Motion carried
[20:45] <elacheche_anis> Welcome aboard karum_ :)
[20:45] <karum_> Hi hi hi
[20:45] <YoBoY> Congrats karum_ :D
[20:45] <winael> \o/ karum_ \o<
[20:45] <Kilos> welcome to the team karum_
[20:45] <idrogn> :)
[20:45] <wxl> congrats karum_ !
[20:45] <elacheche_anis> winael is next, you're here?
[20:45] <quesh> \o/
[20:45] <winael> Yeah I'm
[20:45] <karum_> thanks a lot
[20:45] <olive> woooot !
[20:46] <elacheche_anis> ping winael
[20:46] <winael> I'm here
[20:46] <winael> don't you see me ?
[20:46] <Kilos> yes
[20:46] <marcoceppi> winael: we see you!
[20:46] <elacheche_anis> Now I do :F
[20:46] <elacheche_anis> :F
[20:46] <elacheche_anis> :D
[20:46] <wxl> holy ubuntu uniform winael :)
[20:46] <popey> hah
[20:46] <wxl> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Winael?action=AttachFile&do=get&target=image20150422_132607648.png
[20:46] <elacheche_anis> #topic winael
[20:47] <winael> yeah it was a normal working day
[20:47] <elacheche_anis> winael, introduce yourself please, and paste a link of your LP & Wiki page :)
[20:47] <winael> I'm almost always dressed like that
[20:47] <wxl> what about like this? https://launchpadlibrarian.net/101499863/photo_64x64.jpg
[20:47] <wxl> hahahah
[20:48] <winael> So I'm Winael, a 33 years old of French LoCo
[20:48] <winael> I join the team in 2008 contributing on the Ubuntu Party
[20:49] <winael> Since then I still on the Ubuntu Party team, to promote Ubutu to visitor, demo Unity (I kind of the expert) and demystify smart scope services
[20:49] <wxl> ahhh unity expert, nice
[20:49] <winael> I interview Mark Shuttleworth in 2009 for Oxyradio during the UP
[20:49] <wxl> you've done things with juju and the phone, too, no, winael ?
[20:50] <winael> this is my LP and wiki page : https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Winael
[20:50] <winael> https://launchpad.net/~vinzjobard
[20:50] <winael> https://plus.google.com/+VincentJOBARD/posts
[20:51] <winael> I transcript and translate the video what is Juju and what is Maas
[20:51] <wxl> very nice!
[20:51] <elacheche_anis> Awesome :)
[20:51] <Kilos> well done
[20:51] <elacheche_anis> Any questions?
[20:51] <winael> I promote Ubuntu on other events like Solutions Linux, Openworld Forum
[20:51] <popey> How are you not already a mamber winael ‽
[20:51] <winael> no popey
[20:52] <elfy> popey: I was convinced he was
[20:52] <popey> Madness :)
[20:52] <winael> I begin my application last year but finished it this week
[20:52] <winael> I'm a lucky Ubuntuphone Insider as well
[20:52] <Kilos> rahter late than never
[20:52] <marcoceppi> better now than never, too ;)
[20:52] <popey> Yes indeed.
[20:52] <winael> I had the chance to visit Canonical office with a gret guide in february
[20:52] <wxl> popey: that seems to be the problem with a lot of the major players in ubuntu-fr which is why we have such a rash of them today
[20:53] <wxl> yep
[20:53] <winael> And now I'm trying to promote Snappy
[20:53] <wxl> winael: on IoT devices?
[20:54] <winael> I made a presentation during the Ubuntu Party and I'll do an other during an hacker showroom Passageenseine
[20:54] <elacheche_anis> Nice work winael :)
[20:54] <wxl> agree
[20:54] <winael> I'm trying to present the convergence part, that it will link the phone the desktop the cloud and the IoT
[20:55] <elacheche_anis> Any other questions? Or we can vote?
[20:55] <wxl> winael: very cool! i have snappy on my raspberry pi 2 :)
[20:55] <wxl> ready to vote
[20:55] <Kilos> vote
[20:55] <elacheche_anis> #votesrequired 4
[20:55] <meetingology> votes now need 4 to be passed
[20:55] <elacheche_anis> #vote For winael Membership?
[20:55] <meetingology> Please vote on: For winael Membership?
[20:55] <meetingology> Public votes can be registered by saying +1, +0 or -1 in channel, (for private voting, private message me with 'vote +1/-1/+0 #channelname)
[20:55] <winael> I have to develop some skills to animate workshop on snappy
[20:55] <marcoceppi> +1
[20:55] <meetingology> +1 received from marcoceppi
[20:55] <wxl> +1 fantastic work! keep it up!!!!
[20:55] <meetingology> +1 fantastic work! keep it up!!!! received from wxl
[20:55] <toddy> +1 nice work and sympathetic photos
[20:55] <meetingology> +1 nice work and sympathetic photos received from toddy
[20:55] <elacheche_anis> +1
[20:55] <meetingology> +1 received from elacheche_anis
[20:55] <Kilos> +1 keep it up
[20:55] <meetingology> +1 keep it up received from Kilos
[20:56] <popey> +1
[20:56] <meetingology> +1 received from popey
[20:56] <winael> and I try to prmote the professional part of Ubuntu (cloud technology like Ubuntu Openstack, Juju, LXC/LXD)
[20:56] <elacheche_anis> #endvote
[20:56] <meetingology> Voting ended on: For winael Membership?
[20:56] <meetingology> Votes for:6 Votes against:0 Abstentions:0
[20:56] <meetingology> Motion carried
[20:56] <elacheche_anis> Congrats winael :)
[20:56] <cm-t> bien joué !
[20:56] <idrogn> :)
[20:56] <wxl> congrats winael and ubuntu-fr team!!!!!!!!
[20:56] <winael> Thx :)
[20:56] <marcoceppi> \o/
[20:56] <Kilos> congrats winael  and welcome
[20:56] <quesh> \o/
[20:56] <elacheche_anis> ki7mt, is the last one for this time slot board :D You still here dude?
[20:56] <ki7mt> I am indeed
[20:57] <YoBoY> congrats winael :D
[20:57] <Kilos> nice to see a team pulling together like this
[20:57] <popey> \o/
[20:57] <elacheche_anis> #topic ki7mt
[20:57] <elacheche_anis> So, ki7mt welcome, please introduce yourself, and share your lp & wiki links please :)
[20:57] <ki7mt> Hi, my name is Greg, 48 in yrs past, 18 in mind, body and spirit ;-)  WIKI: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KI7MT, LP: https://launchpad.net/~ki7mt
[20:57] <idrogn> we are very happy together at karum home
[20:57] <marcoceppi> ki7mt: arent' we all ;)
[20:58] <idrogn> thanks for your time
[20:58] <kamal> o/   hi, I have an endorsement for ki7mt
[20:58] <wxl> hey ki7mt is on our team (lubuntu)
[20:58] <ki7mt> Yes
[20:58] <popey> thanks kamal
[20:58] <cyphermox> wow, strong applicants today :)
[20:58] <kamal> I'm Kamal Mostafa, a member of the the Ubuntu and Debian Hams (amateur radio)
[20:58] <kamal> groups and of the Canonical kernel team.
[20:58] <elacheche_anis> So, any questions for ki7mt ?
[20:59] <kamal> I have worked with Greg Beam (ki7mt) for a couple of years on various ham radio
[20:59] <kamal> software issues, and have reviewed (and will sponsor) several ham radio
[20:59] <kamal> packages that he publishes as Launchpad PPA's and will soon be maintaining in
[20:59] <kamal> Debian.
[20:59] <kamal> His work is high quality, and more importantly, he is friendly and easy to work
[20:59] <kamal> with.  His efforts triaging the ham radio software bugs in Launchpad have also
[20:59] <kamal> been much appreciated.
[20:59] <toddy> you use blueprints in launchpad: https://launchpad.net/~ki7mt/+specs?role=assignee
[20:59] <kamal> I am happy to offer my endorsement of Greg (ki7mt) for Ubuntu Membership.  :-)
[20:59] <kamal> ..
[20:59] <elfy> I totally forgot to do a wiki testimonial as I'd promised - so have hung about here  to say I am here for him
[20:59] <wxl> yay for amateur radio develepment!!!
[21:00] <elacheche_anis> 2 endorsements :) that's nice :)
[21:00] <toddy> a lot of karma: https://launchpad.net/~ki7mt/+karma
[21:00] <ki7mt> thank elfy I see allot of you all in the various IRC rooms.
[21:00] <wxl> a wide variety of contributions
[21:00] <wxl> generalists are good :)
[21:01] <elacheche_anis> Too many endorsements :) No questions?
[21:01] <toddy> ki7mt: ah, you want to be a Regional Board Member. than we are colleague in the future. :)
[21:02] <ki7mt> I hope so, that's the goal :-)
[21:03] <elacheche_anis> Any thing else?
[21:03] <elacheche_anis> #votesrequired 4
[21:03] <meetingology> votes now need 4 to be passed
[21:03] <elacheche_anis> I see that everyone are excited about ki7mt application, shall we vote?
[21:04] <Kilos> yes
[21:04] <wxl> ready to vote
[21:04] <elacheche_anis> #vote For ki7mt Membership?
[21:04] <meetingology> Please vote on: For ki7mt Membership?
[21:04] <meetingology> Public votes can be registered by saying +1, +0 or -1 in channel, (for private voting, private message me with 'vote +1/-1/+0 #channelname)
[21:04] <wxl> +1
[21:04] <meetingology> +1 received from wxl
[21:04] <elacheche_anis> +1 Keep the good work all Ubuntu-fr :)
[21:04] <meetingology> +1 Keep the good work all Ubuntu-fr :) received from elacheche_anis
[21:04] <Kilos> +1 wonderful job, keep going
[21:04] <meetingology> +1 wonderful job, keep going received from Kilos
[21:05] <kamal> +1
[21:05] <toddy> +1 very much contributions
[21:05] <meetingology> +1 very much contributions received from toddy
[21:06] <elacheche_anis> we wait for popey voting :)
[21:06] <Kilos> lol
[21:06] <popey> +1
[21:06] <meetingology> +1 received from popey
[21:06] <elacheche_anis> #endvote
[21:06] <meetingology> Voting ended on: For ki7mt Membership?
[21:06] <meetingology> Votes for:5 Votes against:0 Abstentions:0
[21:06] <meetingology> Motion carried
[21:06] <popey> (sorry, was pinged in another channel)
[21:06] <popey> \o/
[21:06] <elacheche_anis> Congrats ki7mt :)
[21:06] <ki7mt> Thank you all for the support over the years, this means allot to me personally.
[21:06] <wxl> congrats!
[21:06] <elacheche_anis> #endmeeting
[21:06] <meetingology> Meeting ended Thu Jun  4 21:06:49 2015 UTC.
[21:06] <meetingology> Minutes:        http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2015/ubuntu-meeting.2015-06-04-20.02.moin.txt
[21:06] <elfy> congrats ki7mt - sorry for forgetting the wiki
[21:06] <kamal> congrats everyone, and welcome!
[21:07] <wxl> good meeting all
[21:07] <Kilos> greta job ki7mt  welcome to the team
[21:07] <wxl> see you in an hour XD
[21:07] <Kilos> great
[21:07] <elacheche_anis> Congrats @All :)
[21:07] <wxl> DS-McGuire: you aren't ready now are you??
[21:07] <Kilos> thanks for attending everyone
[21:07] <elfy> night all - great job :)
[21:07] <Kilos> night elfy
[21:08] <Kilos> DS-McGuire  ping
[21:08] <Kilos> na well be back later
[21:08] <Kilos> ha
[21:09] <daniel_> Sorry my internet went down
[21:10] <Kilos> np
[21:10] <Kilos> i think the guys wanted to know if you are ready or do you want the next timeslot reather
[21:10] <Kilos> rather
[21:10] <daniel__> I am DS-McGuire, I don't know why my name is wrong
[21:11] <Kilos> because you reconnecting
[21:11] <Kilos> bad connection somewhere
[21:11] <wxl> daniel_: you could try changing your nick
[21:11] <DS-McGuire> I guess.
[21:11] <DS-McGuire> fixed it
[21:11] <wxl> there you go
[21:12] <DS-McGuire> \o/
[21:12] <wxl> i was thinking we might get you in on the tail end of the 2000 meeting. would you prefer to wait, DS-McGuire ?
[21:13] <DS-McGuire> I don't mind. I am ready now if everyone else is
[21:13] <Kilos> elacheche_anis  carry on
[21:13]  * Kilos ready
[21:13] <wxl> who's still around?
[21:14] <wxl> do we have a quorum ?
[21:14] <wxl> can't we un-end the last meeting? XD
[21:14] <Kilos> elacheche  is worrying about mails and stuff, give him 5
[21:14] <elacheche_anis> wxl, the next guy is for the next meeting!
[21:14] <elacheche_anis> about 45 minutes later :)
[21:14] <wxl> ko
[21:14] <wxl> i'm got code to compile anyways :)
[21:15] <Kilos> whats wrong with now if we are all ready
[21:15] <wxl> thanks for including the news team on that email elacheche_anis
[21:16] <elacheche_anis> wxl, we should include them to announce that for everybody :)
[21:16] <wxl> elacheche_anis: agree. that's what i meant :)
[21:18]  * wxl moves to our regular challnnel while we wait
[21:19] <Kilos> DS-McGuire  relax for 40 mins, get some coffee
[21:19] <DS-McGuire> Kilos, Will do :)
[21:19] <ki7mt> wxl, where is the lubuntu meeting being held ?
[21:20] <Kilos> pity we missed you before closing
[21:20] <wxl> ki7mt: we haven't had meetings in a long time. sometime when i get a chance to breathe more, i'll get them started again.
[21:21] <wxl> ki7mt: feel free to send me a reminder!
[21:21]  * ahoneybun will send a reminder to everyone he can
[21:22] <ki7mt> Ok, will do. There's a few things another project Im helping out with has input on. Will save that for the next one.
[21:27] <elacheche_anis> ping YoBoY,
[21:28] <elacheche_anis> is karum still online in other channel?
[21:36] <cm-t> we are all here together
[21:36] <cm-t> in his garden
[21:36] <cm-t> elacheche_anis: ↑
[21:37] <cm-t> he closed his laptop now, but he is close to me
[21:37] <wxl> cm-t: he needs to sign the CoC before we can make him a member. that's one of the required steps of the application process. we don't need to go through everything all over again, but his membership on launchpad is waiting on that.
[21:38] <YoBoY> pong elacheche_anis
[21:38] <Kilos> cm-t  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Membership/NewMember#Code_of_Conduct
[21:38] <cm-t> true,
[21:39] <elacheche_anis> cm-t, there is a problem :)
[21:39] <cm-t> we help him sign it right now !
[21:39] <YoBoY> OK de are explaining hum how to do that
[21:39] <Kilos> cool
[21:39] <elacheche_anis> tell him to check his inbox right now :)
[21:39] <cm-t> if it is ok
[21:39] <cm-t> good !
[21:39] <elacheche_anis> cm-t, you should help him dude :) That what family members do :D
[21:40] <Kilos> lol
[21:41] <ahoneybun> T-Minus 20mn
[21:46] <elacheche_anis> m-15
[21:46]  * ahoneybun looks at elacheche_anis with a face
[21:47] <Kilos> lol
[21:47]  * elacheche_anis seeing that face o_O
[21:50] <ahoneybun> T-Minus 10mins
[21:51] <cm-t> elacheche_anis: yes, we are working on it ;)
[21:51] <cm-t> lucky him we decided to make an IRL event !
[21:51] <Kilos> yeah
[21:51] <elacheche_anis> Yep cm-t :) so lucky :D
[21:54] <cm-t> steps too hard after beers and it's late (00h00) here, installed the great assistant, now on step 4/8
[21:54] <cm-t> 3/8
[21:55] <ahoneybun> T-Minus 5mins
[21:55] <Kilos> haha cmt
[21:55] <elacheche_anis> Take your time cm-t when you finish just let him answer back that email or ping someone from the board in irc :)
[21:55] <Kilos> cm-t
[21:55] <Kilos> midnight here too
[21:56] <elacheche_anis> DS-McGuire, ready? :D
[21:56] <DS-McGuire> elacheche, Yep!
[21:56] <elacheche_anis> Good :) m-4 :)
[21:56] <ahoneybun> DS-McGuire, why are you not in #ubuntu-doc?
[21:57] <ahoneybun> I'm pretty such it will be a 100% +1 hoping DS-McGuire signed the CoC lol
[21:57] <ahoneybun> *sure
[21:57] <DS-McGuire> ahoneybun, I don't consider myself a part of that team anymore. Haven't for a long time.
[21:58] <ahoneybun> oh ok
[21:58] <Kilos> DS-McGuire  lp link please
[21:58] <DS-McGuire> I still listening and read anything that comes through
[21:58] <ahoneybun> T-Minus 2mins
[21:58] <DS-McGuire> https://launchpad.net/~daniel-mcguire351
[21:58] <Kilos> i read slow
[21:58] <Kilos> ty
[21:58] <ahoneybun> wiki please DS-McGuire  as well
[21:58] <DS-McGuire> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/daniel-mcguire351
[21:58] <elacheche_anis> ahoneybun, :D we didn't start yet! :p
[21:58] <Kilos> yes coc signed
[21:59] <DS-McGuire> signed a long time ago :D
[21:59] <ahoneybun> elacheche_anis, getting ready
[21:59] <ahoneybun> :D
[21:59] <elacheche_anis> :D
[21:59] <Kilos> just checking
[21:59] <DS-McGuire> np :)
[21:59] <Kilos> i read your wiki page the day you applied
[21:59] <DS-McGuire> Awesome :)
[22:00] <ahoneybun> TIME!
[22:00] <elacheche_anis> It's almost time to start the 22UTC meeting, who's here from the Memebership board?
[22:00] <ahoneybun> o/
[22:00]  * Kilos here
[22:00] <elacheche_anis> o/
[22:00] <toddy> o/
[22:00] <cwayne> o/
[22:01] <elacheche_anis> popey, wxl still AFK
[22:01] <wxl> oops
[22:01] <wxl> was in the wrong channel
[22:01] <Kilos> lol
[22:01] <elacheche_anis> cwayne, you're not a board member dude :)
[22:01] <cwayne> elacheche_anis: ... yes i am
[22:02] <Kilos> from the cc?
[22:02] <cwayne> https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-membership-board/+members
[22:02]  * cm-t # karum just signed the CoC \o/
[22:02] <elacheche_anis> cwayne, nice to meet you :D from CC?
[22:03] <Kilos> well done karum
[22:03] <hggdh> \o
[22:03] <Kilos> big job that
[22:03] <cwayne> elacheche_anis: nope, just membership board :)  https://launchpad.net/~cwayne18 if you're curious
[22:03] <hggdh> or, even better \ô
[22:03] <cm-t> thant to the assistant great tool !
[22:04] <elacheche_anis> cwayne, so sorry dude :) I just seen that :D
[22:04] <cwayne> elacheche_anis: no worries :)
[22:04] <Kilos> elacheche_anis  GO
[22:04] <elacheche_anis> Shall we start?
[22:04] <ahoneybun> yep
[22:04] <elacheche_anis> #startmeeting 22 UTC Membership Board Meeting
[22:04] <meetingology> Meeting started Thu Jun  4 22:04:42 2015 UTC.  The chair is elacheche_anis. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.
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[22:04] <elacheche_anis> Hello and welcome to the Membership Board meeting! The wiki page for
[22:04] <elacheche_anis> the Review Board is available here:
[22:04] <elacheche_anis> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Membership/Boards. We will attempt to get
[22:04] <elacheche_anis> through all of the applicants that have added themselves to that list
[22:04] <elacheche_anis> before today's meeting. If we are unable to make it through the entire
[22:04] <elacheche_anis> list due to time constraints, then at the next meeting we will pick up
[22:04] <elacheche_anis> where we left off. The format for the meeting is as follows: We will go
[22:05] <elacheche_anis> through the list of applicants one by one, by date of application
[22:05] <elacheche_anis> (FIFO). Each applicant should introduce themselves (1-5 sentences) and
[22:05] <elacheche_anis> provide links to their Ubuntu Wiki page. After the introduction the
[22:05] <elacheche_anis> members of the Membership Review Board will review the pages and, if
[22:05] <elacheche_anis> needed, ask the applicant further questions. During this time it is
[22:05] <elacheche_anis> encouraged for other members of the community to show their support for
[22:05] <elacheche_anis> the applicant. Do not be alarmed if the members of the Membership Review
[22:05] <elacheche_anis> Board are quiet during this time; they are most likely reading
[22:05] <elacheche_anis> wiki/launchpad/forum/other pages and deciding how they are going to
[22:05] <elacheche_anis> vote
[22:05] <elacheche_anis> #topic DS-McGuire
[22:05] <elacheche_anis> DS-McGuire, please introduce yourself to the board, and share a link to your LP and wiki
[22:05] <DS-McGuire> My name is Daniel McGuire, I am 20 years old and I study software engineering at Cardiff Metropolitan University in Wales. I have tried to become a major player in the Ubuntu community over past last year and I see myself in the future using the skills I learn both in and out of Uni to help develop the Ubuntu operating system. My main focuses are design and development of software, at the moment since I am not the best with
[22:05] <DS-McGuire> programming, I am sticking mostly to design until I can get better skills.
[22:05] <DS-McGuire> Launchpad: https://launchpad.net/~daniel-mcguire351 Wiki: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/daniel-mcguire351
[22:07]  * ahoneybun is 22
[22:07] <elacheche_anis> Any questions for DS-McGuire? Any supporters here?
[22:07] <ahoneybun> o/
[22:07]  * cm-t I have to d/c because métro will close, But I will just say DS-McGuire is very friendly guy, I just opened a group on telegram with the topic of ubuntu/apps and he already launched a topic for a design icon
[22:08] <DS-McGuire> :)
[22:08] <elacheche_anis> Good cm-t :) ahoneybun if you have a question go ahead and ask it :)
[22:08] <ahoneybun> supporter
[22:08] <toddy> DS-McGuire: Do you has contact (real-life) to your loco group in wales?
[22:08] <cm-t> gn8 guys thank you
[22:08] <ahoneybun> DS-McGuire, do you see yourself helping other devs with UI and icon designs?
[22:08] <Kilos> TY cm-t
[22:08] <Kilos> eish caps lock
[22:09] <elacheche_anis> #voters Kilos elacheche_anis toddy ahoneybun wxl cwayne popey
[22:09] <meetingology> Current voters: Kilos ahoneybun cwayne elacheche_anis popey toddy wxl
[22:09] <cwayne> DS-McGuire: do you anticipate becoming more active in the development side as well? (as you get better skills)
[22:09] <DS-McGuire> toddy, I have yet to meet with the loco group in my area, this is because of traveling to and from the place they meet since I cannot afford it. I am planning on going to the next Ubuntu-fr meeting if I can afford that.
[22:10] <cwayne> and if so, what type of development?  specifically apps? or other parts of the OS too?
[22:10] <DS-McGuire> ahoneybun, Yes. That is one area I want to be a major player in.
[22:10] <Kilos> DS-McGuire  is there a loco in wales?
[22:11] <DS-McGuire> cwayne, Yes, albeit I find the community very intimidating because of its professionalism however I do see myself contributing directly to Ubuntu/Unity 8 in the next few years.
[22:11] <Kilos> ah
[22:11] <hggdh> elacheche_anis: can I be a voter as well?
[22:12] <DS-McGuire> apps are focus for me since I do plan to make a living from them and the Ubuntu 8 operating system gives me an amazing platform to develop on.
[22:12] <cwayne> hm, that sounds like something we need to fix, we dont want anyone to ever be intimidated to contribute
[22:12] <elacheche_anis> #voters hggdh
[22:12] <meetingology> Current voters: Kilos ahoneybun cwayne elacheche_anis hggdh popey toddy wxl
[22:12] <hggdh> \o/
[22:12] <elacheche_anis> my fault hggdh :)
[22:12] <wxl> indeed cwayne
[22:13] <wxl> DS-McGuire: you find the ubuntu community intimidating?
[22:13] <DS-McGuire> cwayne, Oh not in a bad way. And not by anyone being an a**. It's just looks it when you're a novice hahah!
[22:13] <Kilos> yes we can speak to them, everyone should feel welcome in their own loco as well
[22:13] <hggdh> DS-McGuire: heh. It helps to keep in mind that we all started as novices
[22:14] <DS-McGuire> hggdh, I understand that. :)
[22:14] <wxl> i have found the ubuntu community totally welcoming. even the most "professional" folks are just as willing to help as the most "amateur"
[22:14] <cwayne> yeah, well I'm glad its not people being jerks at least :)
[22:14] <Kilos> yeah
[22:14] <wxl> esp. in dev
[22:14] <ahoneybun> agreed
[22:14] <DS-McGuire> It's not the fact people are not welcoming, it's quite the opposite, I assure you. However I don't want to look like I don't know what I am doing haha!
[22:14] <cwayne> DS-McGuire: I totally get what you're saying (I felt the same at first), but that's the beauty of this community, everyone's there to help, not criticize :)
[22:14] <wxl> exactly
[22:14] <DS-McGuire> cwayne, Definitely :)
[22:15] <wxl> not knowing things is an opportunity to get to know
[22:15] <cwayne> DS-McGuire: ha, I still don't know what Im doing :P
[22:15] <wxl> heh
[22:15] <wxl> ditto!
[22:15] <elacheche_anis> #votesrequired 4
[22:15] <meetingology> votes now need 4 to be passed
[22:15] <DS-McGuire> cwayne, I have heard that from a number of people./
[22:15] <Kilos> ditto too
[22:15] <elacheche_anis> I confirm that DS-McGuire :)
[22:16] <DS-McGuire> haha!
[22:16] <elacheche_anis> So.. Is there any other questions to DS-McGuire or we can vote :D
[22:16] <wxl> vote
[22:16] <hggdh> I am OK
[22:16] <toddy> vote
[22:16] <elacheche_anis> #vote for DS-McGuire Membership!
[22:16] <meetingology> Please vote on: for DS-McGuire Membership!
[22:16] <meetingology> Public votes can be registered by saying +1, +0 or -1 in channel, (for private voting, private message me with 'vote +1/-1/+0 #channelname)
[22:16] <ahoneybun> +1
[22:16] <meetingology> +1 received from ahoneybun
[22:16] <toddy> +1 nice to meet you DS-McGuire – I think you make a great job
[22:16] <meetingology> +1 nice to meet you DS-McGuire – I think you make a great job received from toddy
[22:16] <elacheche_anis> +1
[22:16] <meetingology> +1 received from elacheche_anis
[22:16] <hggdh> +1 thank you, and keep calm ;-)
[22:16] <meetingology> +1 thank you, and keep calm ;-) received from hggdh
[22:17] <cwayne> +1
[22:17] <meetingology> +1 received from cwayne
[22:17] <Kilos> +1 have faith in your abilities and everything else falls into place automatically
[22:17] <meetingology> +1 have faith in your abilities and everything else falls into place automatically received from Kilos
[22:17] <wxl> +1 reach out to the community— they need you as much as you need them!
[22:17] <meetingology> +1 reach out to the community— they need you as much as you need them! received from wxl
[22:17] <elacheche_anis> #endvote
[22:17] <meetingology> Voting ended on: for DS-McGuire Membership!
[22:17] <meetingology> Votes for:7 Votes against:0 Abstentions:0
[22:17] <meetingology> Motion carried
[22:17] <wxl> yay congrats DS-McGuire
[22:17] <hggdh> DS-McGuire: welcome in!
[22:17] <elacheche_anis> Congratulations DS-McGuire :)
[22:17] <DS-McGuire> \o/ Thank you everyone!!
[22:17] <Kilos> DS-McGuire  congrats and welcome
[22:17] <wxl> i look forward to further lubuntu contributions DS-McGuire :)
[22:17] <ahoneybun> welcome to the fold DS-McGuire
[22:17] <elacheche_anis> #endmeeting
[22:17] <meetingology> Meeting ended Thu Jun  4 22:17:44 2015 UTC.
[22:17] <meetingology> Minutes:        http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2015/ubuntu-meeting.2015-06-04-22.04.moin.txt
[22:17] <toddy> Congrats DS-McGuire
[22:17]  * ahoneybun needs to leave now
[22:18] <Kilos> ty ahoneybun
[22:18] <DS-McGuire> Thanks a lot :D
[22:18] <elacheche_anis> As we don't have more condidate for tonight the meeting is over :) I'll finish the rest in minutes :)
[22:18] <Kilos> DS-McGuire  keep up the good work lad
[22:18] <ahoneybun> DS-McGuire, I'll be talking to you about design later
[22:18] <ahoneybun> np Kilos
[22:18] <DS-McGuire> ahoneybun, I look forward to it! :D
[22:18] <DS-McGuire> Kilos, Thank you :)
[22:18] <Kilos> nice to have you on board
[22:21] <cwayne> welcome aboard :)
[22:21]  * cwayne goes afk
[22:22] <Kilos> night all
[22:22] <DS-McGuire> night!