[19:43] <Polah> doesn't have authorisation, can't authenticate or both are rejected
[19:43] <[DeVil-BoY]> i have a laptop dell inspiron 6000 trying to install drivers for the 915GM adapter
[19:43] <[DeVil-BoY]> can someone tell me which ones i need to download from that site
[19:44] <Person> If I wanted to learn to hack/crack, where would you suggest I go?
[19:44] <Polah> [DeVil-BoY], the ones labelled "Linux Drivers", perhaps? Or if you can't find those, ndiswrapper allows use of Windows (XP, I believe) drivers instead
[19:44] <ishinozaki> person: go to college first then prison
[19:45] <ActionParsnip> devral: they are in a default install
[19:45] <[DeVil-BoY]> that's for wifi
[19:45] <Polah> CluelessPerson, not here.
[19:45] <glebihan> CluelessPerson, not here
[19:45] <[DeVil-BoY]> i'm trying to improve video performance
[19:45] <[DeVil-BoY]> video controller intel 915GM graphics
[19:45] <ActionParsnip> [DeVil-BoY]: you may need an xorg.conf file if your disaply device is not reporting EDID
[19:46] <megalinux> oi
[19:46] <[DeVil-BoY]> ActionParsnip how would i check that?
[19:46] <megalinux> joinha?
[19:46] <[DeVil-BoY]> EDID
[19:46] <ishinozaki> cluelessperson: if youre still asking way too general questions like that you havw a long way to go
[19:47] <megalinux> hello
[19:47] <CluelessPerson> ishinozaki,   I've found some answers already.  I'm just looking for more sources, even though my cup has already been filled.
[19:47] <megalinux> kkk
[19:47] <glebihan> CluelessPerson, please drop the subject
[19:47] <megalinux> =)
[19:47] <Pici> !illegal
[19:47] <ActionParsnip> [DeVil-BoY]: check in /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[19:48] <megalinux> oi
[19:48] <megalinux> ?
[19:48] <ishinozaki> cluelessperson: good luck
[19:48] <megalinux> hello
[19:48] <[DeVil-BoY]> ok i'm oign to check
[19:48]  * CluelessPerson wants to learn and everyone is like "ILLEGAL!! RUN AWAYYYYY"  >.>
[19:48] <CluelessPerson> later.
[19:49] <megalinux> oiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii
[19:50] <Polah> megalinux: If you aren't going to ask a question or help, stop that or leave.
[19:50] <megalinux> oi
[19:50] <[DeVil-BoY]> ActionParsnip it's huge that file
[19:50] <megalinux> not
[19:50] <megalinux> oi
[19:50] <megalinux> oi
[19:50] <megalinux> oi
[19:50] <FloodBot1> megalinux: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:51] <Polah> [DeVil-BoY], it is a log of all your Xorg activity, it'll probably be quite large.
[19:51] <daharon> Hey guys, what is the Ubuntu version of "yum groupinstall 'Development Tools'"?
[19:52] <daharon> I need to compile some projects on an ubuntu machine and I don't have the development libraries/apps that I need.
[19:52] <hallman> Anyone know why xorg sucks up 25-100% of my cpu? Seems to be a common problem, yet the many suggested solutions doesn't seem to work for me.
[19:52] <Polah> daharon: What libraries do you need?
[19:52] <Styles> hallman: rm -rf /
[19:52] <Pici> !danger
[19:52] <Styles> don't rly lol
[19:52] <hallman> I've also looked through the ubuntu wiki on X troubleshooting, HighCPU in particular.. I find it hard to believe that it's a client application. It's not software rasterizing. I've tried various drivers. Logs seem fine.
[19:53] <Polah> Styles, don't suggest that to people.
[19:53] <daharon> Polah: glib-devel, cups-devel, automake, etc.  The development stuff.
[19:53] <Styles> o.0
[19:53] <Styles> guess not a funny joke?
[19:53] <[DeVil-BoY]> it has a few entries for the EDID
[19:53] <bastidrazor> Polah: build-essentials may be the package you need for compiling.
[19:53] <Pici> Styles: No. Do not joke around like that here.
[19:53] <m4v> Styles: this channel isn't for jokes.
[19:53] <Styles> mybad
[19:53] <dweez> Not a funny joke?  How could it NOT be funny that some poor trusting soul just wiped out his whole directory
[19:54] <dweez> damn, I fogot to add the <sarcasm></sarcasm> tags
[19:54] <Polah> daharon, sudo apt-get install <packages>     build-essentials may have all that, I don't know exactly.
[19:54] <dephyre> I think that the best joke!
[19:54] <dweez> s/directory/partition
[19:54] <hallman> So no help then?
[19:54] <Styles> How do you know it's using that much?
[19:54] <Styles> I find it hard to believe
[19:54] <hallman> Styles: I guess I trust the system monitor in kde
[19:55] <hallman> And the system is slow as fuck, so something is going on.
[19:55] <Styles> works for me, just making sure your reading it right haha
[19:55] <Polah> hallman: Run the top command and see if it agrees
[19:55] <Styles> You've tried restarting right?
[19:55] <Styles> ^
[19:55] <hallman> Polah: it does
[19:55] <Styles> check logs hallman
[19:55] <Styles> There is something going wrong
[19:55] <hallman> Styles: I don't want to hear any more from you.
[19:55] <Styles> hallman:  lol k
[19:56] <Polah> hallman: Are you using generic drivers, specific linux drivers or proprietary drivers for your GPU?
[19:56] <dephyre> I know nobody care but I got OnLive 100% working in wine today.
[19:56] <zeperempat> hii ?
[19:56] <hallman> Polah: Just whatever came with kubuntu (I'm asking here instead of #kubuntu since #kubuntu is useless and it's doesn't matter for this particular problem)
 daharon, sudo apt-get install <packages>     build-essentials may have all that, I don't know exactly.
[19:56] <Calinou> build-essential without "s"
[19:57] <fr0sted> hi all, quick question, could installing ubuntu with wubi stop ubuntu working from an update to 11.04? as i cant get it to boot, just getthe black login screen Ubuntu login ttyl1
[19:57] <kid> after moving buildings, our computers cannot connect to the server running ubuntu. i sticks at "connecting."
[19:57] <fr0sted> i have been playing all day
[19:57] <hallman> Polah: I've tried using other drivers but it doesn't seem to work. (modifying the Driver bit of the xorg.conf under the Device section)
[19:57] <lownin> Would anyone be able to tell me how to use UFW to allow the connection of a specific TCP port on the outside to connect in, but to a different specific TCP port on the inside?
[19:57] <Polah> Calinou: Thought it was that actually, bastidrazor said -essentials
[19:57] <shawn_> can someone help me with a wireless issue?
[19:58] <fr0sted> shawn_ whatsthe problem mate /
[19:58] <jbehling> anyone here have experience with setting up pam_krb5 and pam_ccreds for off-network login (using cached credentials)
[19:58] <ActionParsnip> [DeVil-BoY]: hardly, its only about 40 lins or so
[19:59] <kid> i'm having a wireless issue as well.
[19:59] <shawn_> I just loaded Ubuntu , I can connect to unsecure networks in my region, but not my own wireless router from my laptop!
[19:59] <Raweed> Hey, has anyone on here sucessfully installed ubuntu 11.04 onto an external HDD im having issues ?
[19:59] <[DeVil-BoY]> ActionParsnip so does that mean everything is working as it should
[19:59] <[DeVil-BoY]> because really, the issue is video playback
[19:59] <dephyre> What's the encryption shawn_?
[19:59] <Polah> shawn_: Are you using the correct encryption protocol?
[19:59] <shawn_> I turned security on my router off.  Still the same thing.
[19:59] <fr0sted> ye i was gonna say use wep and not wpa
[19:59] <[DeVil-BoY]> on reboot it play video files after they are playing it goes dark with only sound
[20:00] <fr0sted> shawn_ try changing your encryption type to wep
[20:00] <dephyre> ...right, what encryption scheme is it using? WEP, WPA, or WPA2?
[20:01] <shawn_> on both the router and laptop?
[20:01] <fr0sted> ye
[20:01] <shawn_> ok
[20:04] <alkisg> My laptop bios says that it has an "EFI" mode, do I gain anything if I enable that? Does Ubuntu/grub/etc support EFI?
[20:04] <ActionParsnip> [DeVil-BoY]: if your performance is poor, you may need an xorg.conf to set better settings, or you can add the xorg edgers updates ppa to get a newer driver (not really advised but may help)
[20:04] <str8> has anyone installed libjpeg8 on ubuntu 10?
[20:04] <[DeVil-BoY]> bummer
[20:04] <shawn_> here goes
[20:04] <[DeVil-BoY]> might go ms on this laptop
[20:05] <str8> anyone at all
[20:05] <chalcedony> i've upgraded from Lucid 10.04 to Maverick 10.10 - but I was hoping that upgrading to a new ubuntu would fix my video problem. it followed me. This is the error:setting up gdebi-core (0.6.3ubuntu1) ...  Xlib:  extension "RANDR" missing on display ":0.0", i saw it while it was upgrading. It's only giving me the command prompt, and i can login, but no GUI at all.
[20:05] <str8> libjpeg8
[20:06] <kyle__> Any flgrx users here who know how the fsck to make it happy with multiple monitors?
[20:07] <ActionParsnip> [DeVil-BoY]: intel is pretty hit and miss. The intel 8xxx is particularly frustrating
[20:07] <alkisg> chalcedony: what graphics card do you have? lspci -nn -k | grep -A 2 VGA
[20:07] <str8> libjpeg8
[20:07] <kid> what changes are needed to take place when you move servers from locations.
[20:07] <[DeVil-BoY]> but i don't know what else it could be
[20:08] <[DeVil-BoY]> codecs
[20:08] <kyle__> kid: If you've got the same IP, none really.
[20:09] <kid> kyle__ i'm unsure if i have the same ip. in fact, i don't know how to check it. we moved locations and now our local computers cannot connect to the project server which contains all our project files.
[20:09] <TheEvilPhoenix> str8:  what about it
[20:10] <kyle__> kid: So you don't even know if the server is up now?
[20:10] <Polah> kid: Does the file access protocol have a specific IP defined? The other computers on the network could find it but if the IP were different then the attempts to connect could fail it they're attempting with a specific but now incorrect IP
[20:10] <kid> it was setup before i got the job and i know a miniscule amount of networking. i just moved the box and plugged hoping it would play.
[20:10] <Polah> kid: Can you access the server?
[20:11] <Polah> kid: Through SSH or suchlike?
[20:11] <kid> when i plug it, the computers can find it, they locate the server, however i'm stuck at the "connecting" stage.
[20:11] <kid> i cannot enter my user/password.
[20:11] <chalcedony> alkisg,  Radeon HD 3200 Graphics
[20:12] <qin> kid: Your server, do you have phisical contact with it?
[20:12] <chalcedony> (sorry my husband needed attention )
[20:12] <shawn_> @fr0sted thats not it.
[20:12] <Polah> kid: If the IP is different, do you have a firewall in place that restricts access for various protocols except on certain IPs?
[20:12] <kid> qin: it does.
[20:13] <kid> it's simply a local server which allows us to network in house and work with the same files.
[20:13] <rellis> Hi folks. I was install empathy 3.x on ubuntu 11.04 from a PPA when my internet connection died. I had to ctrl+c the "apt-get install empathy". Now I keep getting errors saying I have broken package that cannot be fixed. I've tried "sudo apt-get install -f" and "sudo dpkg --configure -a" but it has not helped.
[20:13] <shawn_> Why would my wireless connect to an unsecure network.  But not my own?  Maybe I'll try to reset the router and box.
[20:14] <rellis> http://pastebin.com/SmQLV2qt
[20:14] <kid> it times out and gives me a "connection failed. the server may not exsist or it is not operational at this time. check the server name or IP address and your network connection and try again." error
[20:14] <kyle__> shawn_: If, say, you have an old wireless card in your box, that doesn't speak wpa2, you would be able to connect an insecure network, but not your own wpa2 secured network.
[20:14] <ActionParsnip> rellis: can you give the output of: sudo apt-get -f install   use pastebin
[20:14] <rellis> oops.. this is the full error i get trying install now l in place that restricts access for various protocols except on certain IPs?
[20:14] <shawn_> Its not old though
[20:14] <qin> kid: And now you hanging on same lan what server?
[20:15] <rellis> here's the output from apt-get install -f .... http://pastebin.com/A9rs1dCb
[20:15] <rellis> ActionParsnip: ^
[20:15] <kid> qin: not following.
[20:15] <qin> kid: Are you in work or home?
[20:15] <shawn_> my desktop reads that it exists, it sees it.  But keeps bringing up the password box like its not right.
[20:16] <kid> in work
[20:17] <ActionParsnip> rellis: seems to be needing gnome3, just researching
[20:17] <kid> i feel like it's something pretty simple. nothing complex. it's worked forever and we simply moved locations and now cannot connect.
[20:17] <kid> if i get onto the server itself, i can connect to it with my personal computers password/un. however, i cannot connect to the server with my computer.
[20:17] <qin> kid: Ok, make sure server is up (power up), what isconnected to network (lan port with light), do your server have rgb port for monitor?
[20:18] <rellis> ActionParsnip: The weird part is... the install went along fine before.. when I first added the PPA... i definitely have broken packages.
[20:18] <that_guy3> Hi, Idk if this is the right channel or not, I'm looking for help with Ubuntu Server
[20:18] <kid> yes. plugged up monitor and keyboard.
[20:19] <qin> kid: In server: ifconfig, check in clients configuration, ip you got from ifconfig on server.
[20:19] <kid> qin, how would i do so?
[20:19] <rellis> ActionParsnip: This is what I get inside synpatic when I run Edit -> Fix Broken Packages ... http://pastebin.com/Wrxc9c8F
[20:19] <kid> i know nothing. i'm the web developer and network guy can't be in until next week.
[20:20] <ActionParsnip> rellis: I'd contact the PPA maintainer to see what the score is
[20:20] <glebihan> rellis, which ppa did you add ?
[20:20] <qin> kid: On server: ifconfig, sudo netstat -tulp (to see what is running there)
[20:21] <rellis> The ppa I added was ppa:telepathy/ppa
[20:21] <rellis> I wanted empathy 3.x so I can block people...
[20:22] <rellis> Anyone have any idea why synaptic now throws these errors about "held packages"?
[20:22] <silverarrow> does anyone know if ubuntu vlc builds are broken?
[20:23] <kid> ifconfig worked, showed a bunch of stuff. the other didn't because i don't have sudo pw.
[20:23] <ActionParsnip> rellis: I'd grab the ppa maintainer, it may need Gnome3 to satisfy deps so you will need to upgrade to Oneiric
[20:23] <glebihan> rellis, did you try "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" ?
[20:23] <ActionParsnip> silverarrow: no issues with it here
[20:23] <rellis> no i did not..
[20:23] <triptec> I'm gonna do some compiling and styff is there any good sudo apt-get install build-essensials readline etc anyone could point me to
[20:23] <stercor> How do I make a .jpg into my screensaver?
[20:23] <triptec> ?
[20:23] <rellis> the reason I think you're wrong is because the install started up without ocmplaining about deps the first time around
[20:23] <dexter_> hi
[20:23] <triptec> like now I'm also missing zlinc
[20:23] <dexter_> I just lost ALL of my xchat channels
[20:24] <triptec> zlibc
[20:24] <rellis> it's only now after ctrl+c the apt-get instal lthat it complains..
[20:24] <dexter_> can anyone help me?
[20:24] <rellis> I also get these errors from synaptic telling me a have broken packages
[20:24] <rellis> so it seems to me that's the root of the problem
[20:24] <andybrine> Hey everyone
[20:24] <glebihan> rellis, that's weird cause apt-get doesn't see any broken packages
[20:25] <andybrine> does anyone know a good application for webcams on ubuntu?
[20:25] <ActionParsnip> andybrine: cheese
[20:25] <rellis> yeah, i agree... it's pretty weird
[20:25] <glebihan> rellis, could you try that last command I gave you ?
[20:25] <stercor> dexter_: Which chat client?
[20:25] <ActionParsnip> dexter_: if you readd them again is it ok?
[20:25] <Richard_28>  is there a wat to detect forwarded ports (set up with ssh)
[20:25] <silverarrow> actionparsnip, good to know, I was told by the videolan guys, ubuntu had broken vlc packages. That would mean I don't have to worry about that?
[20:25] <rellis> gleibhan: I'm on 11.04... 11.10's not out yet, right? So what would i dist-upgrade to?
[20:26] <ActionParsnip> silverarrow: wouldn't worry, the packages in the official repos are tested well so should be fine#
[20:26] <Pici> !dist-upgrade | rellis
[20:26] <glebihan> rellis, dist-upgrade doesn't change distribution
[20:26] <andybrine> ActionParsnip I have used cheese and everytime i try and record the webcam is starts lagging
[20:26] <cgermann> a dist upgrade also forces the upgrading og all pacages that are upgradeable
[20:26] <ActionParsnip> rellis: dist-upgrade doesn't get you to the next release
[20:26] <rellis> oh, oops
[20:26] <andybrine> ActionParsnip and my system is really good
[20:26] <rellis> okay...
[20:26] <silverarrow> ActionParsnip, then it my computer then
[20:26] <dexter_> ActionParsnip, readd?? I had like 12 servers and like 60 channels...
[20:27] <ActionParsnip> andybrine: "really good" is debatable, but it should be enough to run a cam. Have you tried xvidwincap
[20:27] <dexter_> stercor, is xchat a chat client? Im a noob
[20:27] <ActionParsnip> dexter_: i see, freaky
[20:27] <rellis> alright it's installing some stuff..
[20:27] <ActionParsnip> dexter_: xchat is an irc client
[20:27] <andybrine> ActionParsnip, I will give it a go
[20:27] <twig11> Where should I start troubleshooting to figure out why my Brother mfc-j615 AIO scanner unit isn't detected across the local network? I've installed the brother print and scan drivers, and printing works fine, but the scanner is not recognized. I've googled this and read whatever I can find on Brother's support site, but I'm not getting anywhere. Thanks for any help.
[20:27] <ActionParsnip> dexter_: restore your settings from backup then, all I can really suggest
[20:28] <andybrine> ActionParsnip, it is strange that whenever i try to record with cheese it just laggs
[20:28] <ActionParsnip> twig11: have you installed the scanner drivers from the brother site? they make linux drivers you know ;)
[20:28] <cgermann> I also recomend the IRC client called "smuxi" it tends to be lighter than Xchat
[20:28] <twig11> ActionParsnip: That's why I purchased a Brother. Read my whole post.
[20:28] <dexter_> ActionParsnip, noob here never learnt to make a backup, afraid I dont have one, unless ubuntu does that automatically...
[20:29] <twig11> ActionParsnip: Sorry for sounding rude, it wasn't meant that way.
[20:29] <qin> kid: Did you get IP from ifconfig?
[20:29] <ActionParsnip> twig11: its cool
[20:29] <ActionParsnip> dexter_: oh dear
[20:29] <qin> kid: Ang highlight nick. please
[20:29] <ActionParsnip> andybrine: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/02/webcam-linux/
[20:29] <dexter_> ActionParsnip, lol
[20:29] <rellis> alright well it wants me to reboot
[20:29] <rellis> i shall return
[20:29] <andybrine> thanks
[20:30] <glebihan> rellis, you could try installing empathy first
[20:30] <rellis> alright
[20:30] <ActionParsnip> twig11: so if you use simple scan, what message do you get?
[20:30] <jbehling> anyone use pamccreds with pamkrb5?
[20:30] <rellis> gleibhan: throws the same error as previous
[20:30] <rellis> listing the impompatible deps in a tree
[20:31] <glebihan> rellis, then I guess we're back to contacting the ppa's maintainer...
[20:31] <rellis> alright ,fair neough
[20:31] <twig11> ActionParsnip: It's all installed, like I said, and I've followed the directions at
[20:31] <twig11> http://welcome.solutions.brother.com/bsc/public_s/id/linux/en/instruction_scn1c.html#u9.10
[20:31] <twig11> to no avail. I'm not sure where to go from here.
[20:32] <twig11> ActionParsnip: Sorry didn't see your last message. "No Scanners Available" and No Scanners Connected"
[20:32] <juanchi> hi.. whats the name of the package that makes QT applicactions look native in GNOME.? After a fresh install I cant remember the name
[20:33] <rellis> well i disabled the ppa and put empathy 2.34 back on here
[20:33] <rellis> gonna reboot, bi2m
[20:33] <glebihan> rellis, does synaptic still show errors ?
[20:33] <ActionParsnip> twig11: is your OS 32bit or 64bit?
[20:33] <dexter_> i executed sudo apt-get clean, could that be related to the loss of my schat configuration?
[20:34] <dexter_> xchat*
[20:34] <twig11> ActionParsnip: 32bit
[20:34] <ActionParsnip> dexter_: that only cleans the apt cache
[20:34] <glebihan> dexter_, no
[20:34] <Polah> dexter_: That just cleans saved packages from /var/cache/apt
[20:34] <dexter_> then it must be the power cut...
[20:34] <l1nuxman> how can I easily add a user and not permit he view or cd into any other directories besides his home directory?
[20:35] <l1nuxman> most of my directories have r-x for other and that's the problem
[20:35] <ActionParsnip> twig11: try:  wget http://www.brother.com/pub/bsc/linux/dlf/brscan3-0.2.11-4.i386.deb; sudo dpkg -i ./brscan3-0.2.11-4.i386.deb; rm ./brscan3-0.2.11-4.i386.deb
[20:36] <ActionParsnip> twig11: there is also a set of brother drivers in the repos, may work
[20:36] <qin> l1nuxman: It more depense from setting of others, than new user.
[20:37] <l1nuxman> well others usually have r-x but I want only that user to not be included in 'other' group
[20:38] <andybrine> such a shame you cant record good quality video on linux without getting a lot of lag.....
[20:38] <guntbert> dexter_: does ~/.xchat2/servlist.conf exist?
[20:38] <dexter_> does anyone here have problems with firefox 6.0.1? hyperlinks only work for the first page of results. Example: I type for love on scroogle, get a list of 100 results, none of the hyperlinks works
[20:38] <ActionParsnip> andybrine: you can, you just need to find an app
[20:38] <dexter_> guntbert, yes
[20:38] <twig11> ActionParsnip: I'm trying your instructions. I already installed the brother drivers from the repository earlier.
[20:38] <ActionParsnip> dexter_: what happens when you hit a link?
[20:38] <rumpe1> l1nuxman, http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/howto-linux-unix-rssh-chroot-jail-setup.html   maybe this is something
[20:39] <dexter_> ActionParsnip, absolutely nothing, it makes an attempt to load the page and then nothing
[20:39] <l1nuxman> hmm k
[20:39] <guntbert> dexter_: that file contains all your servers and the subscribed channels
[20:39] <andybrine> ActionParsnip I have tested many of them and I stil get a lag :s
[20:39] <supernintendo> how do I find someones IP address?
[20:39] <dexter_> guntbert, I know, and its empty
[20:39] <ActionParsnip> andybrine: maybe the driver for your webcam sucks
[20:39] <dexter_> guntbert, well, 6 lines, but not the 12 servers I had to automatically connect
[20:39] <guntbert> dexter_: ouw - sorry, I obviously came late ...
[20:40] <twig11> ActionParsnip: Do I need to reboot after installing that driver?
[20:40] <dexter_> guntbert, :)
[20:40] <ActionParsnip> supernintendo: I'd ask in ##networking
[20:40] <l1nuxman> rumpe1, wow thats so hard
[20:40] <ActionParsnip> twig11: don't think so
[20:40] <supernintendo> oh neato :) will they help me find out if this person is for real?
[20:40] <andybrine> ActionParsnip, I was sure to get a really good camera that worked well in linux
[20:40] <ActionParsnip> supernintendo: I gues
[20:41] <ActionParsnip> andybrine: vlc appears to be able to do it too, I'd wager mplayer can too
[20:41] <dexter_> ActionParsnip, the changes made to firefox were made together with a kernel update: mine now is <IP_ADDRESS> and GNOME 2.32.1
[20:41] <ActionParsnip> andybrine: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam
[20:41] <YGOfan> hello
[20:41] <YGOfan> i need someone who can speak japanese
[20:42] <andybrine> ActionParsnip I will have a look at a few more thanks
[20:42] <twig11> ActionParsnip: Still doesn't work. Could it have something to do with the network configuration, even if the printer is working on the network?
[20:42] <ActionParsnip> dexter_: is it ok in other browsers?
[20:42] <dexter_> ActionParsnip, yes, chromium seems to work fine
[20:42] <bodom> Hello, can anybody please explain me how to manage the ubuntu boot sequence?
[20:42] <Pici> !jp | YGOfan
[20:42] <bodom> YGOfan: Have you tried #ubuntu-jp?
[20:42] <YGOfan> yeah
[20:42] <YGOfan> nobody answering
[20:43] <hylian> bodom: exactly what are you trying to manage?
[20:43] <ActionParsnip> !boot
[20:43] <jlholmes> sup ppl
[20:44] <hylian> ActionParsnip: thanks action, that's easier... :)
[20:44] <rellis> Just an update for the oflks that were helping me..I sent an email to the PPA maintainer on launchpad.
[20:44] <YGOfan> i need someone who can speak japanese, it's nothing ubuntu related tbh
[20:44] <rellis> Thanks for trying :)
[20:44] <jlholmes> can I install KDE on ubuntu via software centre
[20:44] <hylian> YGOfan: the best i could do is run babelfish, sorry :(
[20:44] <bodom> hylian: Well, when the system boot up, it starts all daemon and processes, then displays the console login screen. Then, it hangs for about 120 sec. before starting KDM. That's because KDM is started after the task that's hanging, I guess. I'm trying to make kdm start earlier
[20:44] <dexter_> YGOfan, I can say konnichiwa and watashi wa nipponjin desu
[20:44] <YGOfan> np hylian
[20:44] <dexter_> lol
[20:44] <ActionParsnip> hylian: I like easier
[20:44] <YGOfan> not enough I'm afraid
[20:45] <dexter_> hahahaha
[20:45] <ActionParsnip> jlholmes: yes you can
[20:45] <hylian> bodom: did you see ActionParsnip's post?
[20:45] <xissburg> heh eh
[20:45] <jlholmes> ok although KDE is crap.. unity ftw
[20:45] <MadRat-> Er, Hi.  I just installed Natty Narwhal and used the Ubuntu Software Center to install LXDE.    Neither unity or KDE Is reasonable for day to day use.  I use classic mode, or console.
[20:46] <jlholmes> go to a drop down box at the bottom of the login screen and select whichi nterface you should use
[20:46] <silverarrow> wipe your shoes on the mat
[20:46] <kyle__> CLI, the real interface.
[20:46] <ct529> I run the usual weekly update, reboot .... and now it says "you do not have the hardware to run unity"
[20:46] <chalcedony> what's the address of the xorg.conf in maverick?
[20:46] <Polah> MadRat-: When logging in, select your user and at the bottom there's a few dropdown menu, the third one will allow you to select an environment.
[20:46] <ct529> which I was running until 2 hours ago
[20:46] <ct529> what is going on????
[20:46] <hylian> jlholmes: i am using xubuntu, runs well. the only problem i ever have with it is if you choose restart/shutdown sometimes logs out instead. xfce is pretty sweet.
[20:46] <jlholmes> i use http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ixa1kXjMhAU
[20:46] <ActionParsnip> kyle__: if flash ran in CLI, I wouldn't use X
[20:46] <Polah> chalcedony, /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[20:47] <bodom> hylian: oh, hadn't noticed it, ty. Is the rc.x.d script system still in use? I've read something about lbs and dependency-based startup sometime in the past
[20:47] <ssbr> how can I tell what changes were made by an apt-get? The Ubuntu wiki lists a joystick package for setting up a control pad, but no information on how to use it. Knowing the actual programs I installed would help the search
[20:47] <chalcedony> Polah, thanks
[20:47] <ssbr> by an apt-get install*
[20:47] <ActionParsnip> ct529: log in to Ubuntu Classic, setup 3D accelleration then log off and log in to the Ubuntu session
[20:47] <ActionParsnip> ssbr: look in /var/log/dpkg.log
[20:47] <blup> how do you normally start processes in the background? i tried with '/usr/bin/redis-server start &', but it keeps logging on the current screen, which makes it hard to keep using it.
[20:47] <MadRat-> jlholmes & Polah: OK.  I don't remember a login screen but I'll reboot, see if I can find it and try that.
[20:47]  * kyle__ high fives ActionParsnip
[20:47] <hylian> bodom: you know, i don't rightly know. I havent read a whole lot about that peticular side of ubuntu lately. I've actually been researching a new fork of mandriva, sorry. :(
[20:47] <Polah> ssbr: /var/log/dpkg.log or /var/log/apt/history.log
[20:47] <ActionParsnip> ssbr: that will show the log of packages install / removed etc
[20:48] <Lednay> bye!
[20:48] <jrib> blup: redirect output somewhere else, or use nohup, or use screen or tmux
[20:48] <Polah> MadRat-: Your system may be configured to autologin with a user
[20:48] <ssbr> Well, I know the package I installed: the joystick package
[20:48] <MadRat-> Polah: Yeah, I think it is.
[20:48] <ActionParsnip> !info joystick
[20:48] <jrib> ssbr: there's usually useful info in /usr/share/doc/PACKAGE
[20:48] <hylian> ActionParsnip: is there a list of the ! comments, sure seems to save time.
[20:49] <twig11> ActionParsnip: Have any idea if I should be worried about my network configuration interfering with recognition of the AIO scanner if its printer is being recognized?
[20:49] <blup> jrib: i'm using screen, but that leaves that terminal in use.. how would you redirect output somewhere else/use nohup?
[20:49] <ActionParsnip> !brain | hylian
[20:49] <ssbr> jrib: it has a changelog and copyright information
[20:49] <infested999> Why are xfs partitions mounted read-only by default?
[20:49] <ActionParsnip> twig11: none at the moment, tbh I don't use scanners
[20:49] <jrib> blup: you don't want to just create a new window in screen?
[20:49] <ssbr> I'm specifically wondering what the calibration tool it installs is
[20:49] <ActionParsnip> infested999: use a different mount option
[20:50] <ct529> ActionParsnip: How do I set that up? Why was it unset?
[20:50] <mc_teo> I would like to make an wireless access point. my wifi card bcm4312 doesnt support master mode with its propietary driver, therefore would it be possible to like bridge wlan0 and eth1 (to an old routers wan port)
[20:50] <ActionParsnip> ssbr: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-set-up-a-gameportgamepad-or-joystick-in-ubuntu.html   may help
[20:50] <infested999> ActionParsnip: What /etc/fstab line do I use to mount the partition at boot: Here is my current: "UUID=xxxxxxxxxxxx /media/Backup xfs defaults 0 0"
[20:50] <jrib> ssbr: dpkg -L PACKAGE  will list what was installed by PACKAGE
[20:51] <ActionParsnip> ct529: do you use proprietray drivers for video?
[20:51] <ActionParsnip> infested999: try:  default,rw    see if it helps
[20:51] <ssbr> ActionParsnip: that's about jscalibrator though
[20:51] <ct529> ActionParsnip: yep
[20:51] <ActionParsnip> ssbr: I've only seen that in the playdeb ppa
[20:51] <ssbr> ActionParsnip: it's the thing listed in the xbox controller FAQ
[20:52] <ssbr> er, joystick is*
[20:52] <ssbr> jscalibrator I don't know anything about
[20:52] <ssbr> jrib: Perfect!
[20:52] <Polah> infested999: Should be defaults, not default there
[20:52] <ActionParsnip> ssbr: http://www.getdeb.net/updates/Ubuntu/11.04/?q=joy
[20:53] <Polah> Also defaults includes write access
[20:53] <Polah> or should do
[20:53] <ct529> ActionParsnip: where do I set up 3D acceleration? I am lost here. Since I am using a proprietary driver and did not upgrade the kernel, why should the 3d acceleration be swicthed off?
[20:54] <ActionParsnip> ct529: if you change kernel, the module may not get built, if you log into the 2D envirionment and reinstall dkms, it should rebuild it for you
[20:54] <ct529> ActionParsnip: I did NOT change kernel
[20:54] <ct529> ActionParsnip: hence the surprise
[20:55] <ActionParsnip> ct529: try it anyhoo, should be ok
[20:55] <ct529> well, I would rather understand what is going on ....
[20:56] <ct529> anyway, food time .... thanks for your help
[20:56] <mauregato>  /join #debian
[20:57] <MadRat-> OK I found it thank you Polah and jlholmes ^_^
[20:58] <BarkingFish> mauregato, perhaps try that without the space in front :)
[21:05] <guntbert> !nickspam | Guest12489
[21:06] <bodom> hylian: just to let you know, I've found my answer: ubuntu is using upstart now
[21:07] <goldins> hi, I'm trying to download something over tftp from a host that's behind an ubuntu firewall host; the firewall has this rule: 69                         ALLOW IN    Anywhere but when I tcpdump host vessel (vessel being the tftp server) I only see the requests
[21:08] <goldins> what's the syntax for UFW to allow these packets through?
[21:10] <goldins> or really to allow any packets from a host through
[21:12] <Fighter_> please  can you help me about Ubuntu Brazil
[21:13] <DavidGradis> #join linuxfrance
[21:13] <glebihan> !brazil | Fighter_
[21:13] <Polah> !brazil | Fighter_
[21:13] <ActionParsnip> goldins: do you have a desktop UI to work in?
[21:14] <Fighter_> thanks
[21:14] <goldins> ActionParsnip: not easily
[21:14] <ActionParsnip> goldins: dang
[21:16] <Alexqw> Does Ubuntu backport drivers to Lucid from newer kernel releases?
[21:19] <snooffy_> hi guys, can anybody help with apt-get behind proxy? I've tried to set the proxy in /etc/apt/apt.conf as advised in various guides, also tried the network proxy preference in gnome, but no luck still getting 407 Proxy Authentification Required.
[21:19] <snooffy_> tried to "export http_proxy://......"
[21:21] <snooffy_> doesn't help either, the problem might be that in my password for the proxy is "&" but i was escaping that in the conf file or in the export command like \& also do i have to escape the @ as well in the prosy url, i mean<EMAIL_ADDRESS>?
[21:23] <ActionParsnip> snooffy_: http://pastebin.com/Mmj4Xcdi
[21:23] <ActionParsnip> snooffy_: make that your apt.conf file
[21:24] <ActionParsnip> snooffy_: http://www.onlinehowto.net/apt-get-via-authentication-proxy/1388
[21:24] <ActionParsnip> snooffy_: http://travisepperson.blogspot.com/2007/08/using-proxy-for-apt-get-in-debian.html
[21:26] <goldins> ActionParsnip: I'm an idiot...
[21:26] <goldins> modprobe nf_nat_tftp
[21:26] <goldins> (duh)
[21:27] <snooffy_> ActionParsnip: ok I'll try
[21:27] <snooffy_> what about the & symbol in my password?
[21:29] <ActionParsnip> snooffy_: not sure dude, try it just as you expect, see if it flys
[21:29] <dmsuperman> Can somebody explain how apt forms download URLs for deb packages?
[21:30] <dmsuperman> I have this line: deb http://dl.google.com/linux/deb/ stable main
[21:30] <dmsuperman> But that url gives me a 404
[21:30] <dmsuperman> How can it not exist and yet still be able to be retried by apt?
[21:31] <vantage_pudding> hi, I just installed ubuntu correctly with unity running, but the top bar doesn't have the correct default theme
[21:31] <vantage_pudding> how do I enable the default theme for the top bar?
[21:31] <Jeanbeaudrillard> hi
[21:32] <Polah> How can I get the Linux version of Ubuntu to work after installing from CD?
[21:32] <ActionParsnip> Polah: reboot without the CD in...
[21:32] <Jeanbeaudrillard> vantage_pudding, right click on the desktop and change the theme
[21:32] <vantage_pudding> Jeanbeaudrillard, thanks, I tried that, but it doesn't change :s
[21:33] <vantage_pudding> and unity works, so it's not the drivers
[21:33] <ActionParsnip> vantage_pudding: log off and on after changing the theme, may help
[21:33] <Jeanbeaudrillard> ok weird :d
[21:33] <vantage_pudding> yeah it's strange
[21:33] <Jeanbeaudrillard> im using mint but it's base on ubuntu though
[21:33] <snooffy_> ActionParsnip: no joy man, tried various combinations of escapes/no escapes in the psw but it just doesnt work  :(
[21:34] <BarkingFish> anyone here up for a challenge?  I'd like to see someone update and build artsd for ubuntu as an alternative to pulseaudio, if they could make plugins for the major bits and bobs of the dm, I'd be ecstatic :)
[21:34] <vantage_pudding> well, they say you rarely have to reinstall linux, so it should be fixeable
[21:35] <ActionParsnip> snooffy_: is it possible for you to change the password, just to make sure the syntax in the file is ok?
[21:35] <vantage_pudding> Jeanbeaudrillard, what's also strange is that the buttons don't have the theme, but the window top bar does
[21:35] <vantage_pudding> :s
[21:36] <ActionParsnip> vantage_pudding: did the logoff work?
[21:36] <glisstech> I have a question about the built in disk utility...palimpsest
[21:36] <vantage_pudding> ActionParsnip, already tried that, including rebooting
[21:36] <vantage_pudding> thanks for helping thou :)
[21:36] <ActionParsnip> vantage_pudding: is it Unity2D?
[21:36] <glisstech> can i print out the smart data and benchmark data?
[21:37] <glisstech> Or is there an alternative that will allow me to do so?
[21:37] <vantage_pudding> ActionParsnip, it's the default unity, just installed it
[21:37] <vantage_pudding> I mean, just installed ubuntu
[21:37] <ActionParsnip> glisstech: there is hdparm which can show performance of a drive
[21:37] <ActionParsnip> vantage_pudding: is it natty?
[21:37] <vantage_pudding> ActionParsnip, ah sorry, it's the latest ubuntu yes, 32 bit
[21:38] <glisstech> ActionParsnip: That will let me print smart and benchmark data?
[21:38] <BarkingFish> How do I find out about the past history of ubuntu as a distro please? I need to know what the last issue of Ubuntu was which did not come with pulseaudio as the default sound server.
[21:38] <ActionParsnip> vantage_pudding: maybe this: http://askubuntu.com/questions/53321/how-does-one-retheme-the-unity-panel-with-gtk
[21:39] <ActionParsnip> glisstech: yes
[21:39] <glisstech> ActionParsnip: is it cli only?
[21:39] <ielezovikj> Whenever I stop charging my laptop and remove the cable Ubuntu suspends can anyone show me how to stop this? Thank you very much.
[21:39] <goshawk> hey... i just received the mail that Oneiric beta 1 is out but i don't see the server version on http://releases.ubuntu.com/oneiric/
[21:40] <vantage_pudding> ActionParsnip, myeah, thanks for the link, I only wonder why it doesn't work by default
[21:40] <vantage_pudding> anyway
[21:40] <vantage_pudding> doesn't matter
[21:40] <vantage_pudding> I may just reinstall the whole thing
[21:40] <h00k> !oneiric | goshawk
[21:40] <robin0800> vantage_pudding, you can use gnome-tweak-tool
[21:40] <goshawk> k h
[21:40] <ielezovikj>  Whenever I stop charging my laptop and remove the cable Ubuntu suspends can anyone show me how to stop this? Thank you very much.
[21:40] <goshawk> k h00k
[21:41] <ielezovikj>  Whenever I stop charging my laptop and remove the cable Ubuntu suspends can anyone show me how to stop this? Thank you very much.
[21:41] <vantage_pudding> robin0800, hmm, lemme try that :) one sec
[21:41] <h00k> ielezovikj: Does your battery hold a charge? It sounds like the battery isn't charging.
[21:41] <vantage_pudding> robin0800, ActionParsnip, you know what's even more strange, I see the correct theme for 1 second, then it falls back
[21:41] <ielezovikj> h00k: Even though I have enough battery to last even for 50 minutes still my laptop suspends whenever I remove the charging cable.
[21:42] <vantage_pudding> when logging in I mean
[21:42] <ActionParsnip> ielezovikj: what is the make and model of the system?
[21:42] <ActionParsnip> ielezovikj: are there any bug reports?
[21:43] <ielezovikj> ActionParsnip: My laptop is Sony Vaio. And, I am not informed.
[21:43] <ActionParsnip> vantage_pudding: check your startup apps. I had this in Lubuntu, where stupid gnome would overlay my LXDE, if i ran xkill and clicked the desktop then my usual desktop would show
[21:43] <KNUBBIG> Hey guys, I've just been asked for help from a friend with a server whose apache crashes daily and says segmentation fault (11). Can that be due to PHP5 and PHP4 being installed? (yes I know that's not good at all :-))
[21:44] <KNUBBIG> ?
[21:44] <ActionParsnip> ielezovikj: I'd check the bugs, see if it is a known issue
[21:44] <ielezovikj> ActionParsnip: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1401551 There a guy has a similar problem but I can't see any solution.
[21:44] <doodmang> Is Unity suitable for netbooks?
[21:44] <KNUBBIG> yes
[21:45] <ActionParsnip> ielezovikj: I suggest you log a bug with acpi, you could also add the bootoption:   acpi=off   see if it helps
[21:45] <vantage_pudding> ActionParsnip, tried xkill, it killed the whole screen :s
[21:45] <ActionParsnip> doodmang: sure
[21:45] <Jeanbeaudrillard> doodmang, yep
[21:45] <vantage_pudding> this must be just some wrong config file or so
[21:45] <Jeanbeaudrillard> doodmang, what is your netbook though  ?
[21:45] <ielezovikj> ActionParsnip: Sorry I just recently started using Ubuntu. Can you please tell me how to log a bug with acpi?
[21:45] <ActionParsnip> vantage_pudding: was just saying, that's what I had to do, you can reboot, or maybe pressing ALT+F2 and run;  nautilus   will sort it
[21:45] <doodmang> How does it compare to other desktop environments in terms of resources?
[21:46] <ActionParsnip> ielezovikj: in a terminal, run:   ubuntu-bug acpi
[21:46] <doodmang> Jeanbeaudrillard, how do you want me to describe it
[21:46] <snooffy_> ActionParsnip: I'll try
[21:46] <vantage_pudding> yeah it's ok :) I logged off
[21:46] <ActionParsnip> doodmang: lxde and xfce use a tonne less, kde uses a little more
[21:46] <Jeanbeaudrillard> doodmang, ho i meant the amount of RAM because it is important the gui on linux
[21:46] <ActionParsnip> vantage_pudding: that too :)
[21:46] <doodmang> Jeanbeaudrillard, 1 GB
[21:47] <Jeanbeaudrillard> doodmang, ok i should be enough for unity
[21:47] <doodmang> Jeanbeaudrillard, alright, thanks
[21:48] <Jeanbeaudrillard> doodmang, glad i can help you can also make the os faster by changing the default theme
[21:48] <Jeanbeaudrillard> i do that in my old pc :P
[21:48] <tapir> Hi, I tried to create a launcher to peazip, but it dissapears when I disconect my cpu :P
[21:48] <doodmang> Jeanbeaudrillard, what do you mean by changing the theme? Desktop effects?
[21:49] <Jeanbeaudrillard> doodmang, yes i believe it can have a great impact on some less powerfull pcs
[21:49] <ActionParsnip> tapir: disconnecting CPU will cause issues, as in zero boot or a big flash and lots of smoke
[21:49] <vantage_pudding> that's interesting
[21:50] <vantage_pudding> I wrote "unity restart" in the terminal, and now everything's gone xD
[21:50] <Jeanbeaudrillard> oo good luck with that lol
[21:50] <snooffy_> ActionParsnip: still no joy m8 :(
[21:50] <snooffy_> ActionParsnip: the password doesnt contain no special chars
[21:51] <tapir> is when i restarted my computer....
[21:51] <doodmang> Jeanbeaudrillard, yeah, I plan on changing that.
[21:51] <doodmang> Thanks everyone. Now I have to have three OSs >_>
[21:52] <glisstech> ActionParsnip: I tried "sudo hdparm -T /dev/sdc" and only got Timing cached reads: data in the output...am I missing something? The man page doesn't give anything about outputting the SMART data
[21:54] <snooffy_> ActionParsnip: the script works as when i do a deliberate mistake in the proxy url it says the url cannot be resolved.
[21:54] <Jeanbeaudrillard> doodmang, lol trialboot
[21:55] <doodmang> Jeanbeaudrillard, What do you mean
[21:55] <jlgaddis> since i don't keep up on the gray market, how's $200 for a 50-user asa 5505?
[21:55] <jlgaddis> "base" license, if that matters
[21:55] <doodmang> I want to access the network from the installer, but it asks me to use a password for the keyring. I don't want to have to store a password while booting up from the Live USB though
[21:56] <Jeanbeaudrillard> doodmang, about the three os in your netbook
[21:56] <jlgaddis> oh hell, wrong window
[21:56] <jlgaddis> sorry
[21:56] <doodmang> Jeanbeaudrillard, oh, I mean 3 OSs over the two computers I have
[21:57] <doodmang> Will the password I use for the network be stored on any disk when booting from the live USB?
[22:03] <melhuishj> doodmang, I'm no expert, but I believe that your password would only be stored in a temporary place until you leave the live session, either by shutting down or restarting, and then it would be lost.
[22:04] <Jeanbeaudrillard> it depend if you boot on a persistent session i think
[22:04] <Jeanbeaudrillard> live session is safer
[22:04] <doodmang> melhuishj, hm, alright. I seemed to have gotten a solution that seems to ask me for a password every time I reconnect from the network.
[22:05] <doodmang> Jeanbeaudrillard, how can I check?
[22:05] <doodmang> Jeanbeaudrillard, I can't remember if I created the live USB with persistent space
[22:06] <Jeanbeaudrillard> hum i have a live and a persitent entry in my usb :o
[22:06] <miss_busted>  irc.bondage.com
[22:06] <Jeanbeaudrillard> doodmang, if it's persitent than normally you can save data on it
[22:07] <Jeanbeaudrillard> live usb just alone read only session
[22:07] <doodmang> Jeanbeaudrillard, what session can I expect if I am installing? probably live?
[22:10] <Jeanbeaudrillard> doodmang, hum i should probably be persitent since ubuntu is the first distro to be ported on usb
[22:10] <Jeanbeaudrillard> anyway you can try saving some document on the desktop and rebooting to see if they are still here
[22:11] <doodmang> Jeanbeaudrillard, well, I already entered in the network password, so I'm already at the point where it doesn't matter
[22:12] <melhuishj> Always good to know though
[22:12] <doodmang> Jeanbeaudrillard, not that I know how to access the desktop from installer
[22:13] <since96> rj e suoid jgay et je m'appel benjamin le boçzzzz
[22:13] <since96> uhbvygy
[22:13] <Jeanbeaudrillard> bonsoir lol
[22:13] <since96> pauvre con
[22:13] <doodmang> !fr | since96
[22:14] <doodmang> I think it's french anyways >_>
[22:14] <since96> mother fucker
[22:14] <Jeanbeaudrillard> he insult me in french -_-
[22:14] <Jeanbeaudrillard> since96, tu es fatigué ?
[22:15] <since96> my name is jeremie
[22:15] <Jeanbeaudrillard> and what ?
[22:16] <since96> bye
[22:16] <since96> cocksucker :D
[22:17] <since96> chuppa pico
[22:17] <jakemp> I am using epoll to handle multiple sockets, and when I call accept on the main fd, the epoll fd changes and this breaks everything.
[22:17] <OerHeks> !language | since96
[22:17] <Jeanbeaudrillard> since96, va faire dodo
[22:17] <since96> avec toi ok
[22:18] <Jeanbeaudrillard> since96, mon lit est pas assez grand haha
[22:18] <vboxw> classic desktop in 11.04 - transparent  terminal shows desktop, not the window under it.  nVidia driver.  Have compiz installed.
[22:18] <x_> Guys, do Linux desktops use X as a skeleton?
[22:18] <toyman61> Ubuntu 10.04: DWA-140 USB Adapter (Wireless). In Windows XP I get 270 Mbps, on Ubuntu I only get 54 Mpbs (802.11n versus 802.11g). Is it possible to get 270 Mbps on Ubuntu as well ?
[22:19] <aeon-ltd> x_: what do you mean?
[22:19] <Jeanbeaudrillard> x_, x is the graphical user interface for linux
[22:19] <x_> Are Gnome and KDE based on X?
[22:19] <since96> mon connard de frère$
[22:19] <aeon-ltd> x_: no they run on top of X
[22:19] <Jeanbeaudrillard> i guess Oo
[22:20] <doodmang> Can the partition with Ubuntu mounted on it be completely encrypted with eCryptfs
[22:20] <aeon-ltd> fruitbag: gnome the DE uses GTK and metacity as well as 'gnome' applications that's what makes gnome, KDE uses qt and plasma with other apps and that is what KDE is
[22:20] <aeon-ltd> oh... fruitbag left :(
[22:21] <h00k> !en | since96
[22:22] <ActionParsnip> fruitbag: http://www.ghacks.net/2008/12/09/get-to-know-linux-desktop-environment-vs-window-manager/
[22:23] <doodmang> ActionParsnip, he left
[22:24] <doodmang> wow, when did I get so sexist. fruitbag left
[22:25] <toyman61> No answer this time either... :-(
[22:26] <sysadmin_pc> ls
[22:27] <sysadmin_pc> whois Dasda
[22:28] <sysadmin_pc> help
[22:28] <Jeanbeaudrillard> what is it :)
[22:28] <ActionParsnip> oh well
[22:29] <osd1000> is anyone using kubuntu or xubuntu?
[22:29] <Jeanbeaudrillard> osd1000, i did used both but didn't like it
[22:29] <ActionParsnip> osd1000: I have kubuntu on my media system
[22:30] <rypervenche> osd1000: What's up? I used Xubuntu for a bit. Using Xfce right now.
[22:31] <Jeanbeaudrillard> xfce is intressting because it's lightweight but it lacks some options on the gui
[22:31] <Jeanbeaudrillard> lxde is a similar desktop
[22:31] <ActionParsnip> lxde is a bit lighter :)
[22:32] <Jeanbeaudrillard> yeah i noticed that hehe
[22:32] <vantage_pudding> ActionParsnip, this fixed it for me http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1704984
[22:33] <Jeanbeaudrillard> i gtg have a nice day all
[22:34] <Kurlon> Afternoon all, anyone had any luck migrating from ext4 to btrfs in Natty when the system is already setup with a separate /boot?  I can't coax grub/the kernel to mount / as btrfs, it insists on doing so as ext4?!
[22:34] <cogocogo> I just installed Ubuntu 11.04 on an old Dell Latitude 110L. I used the wifi (eth1) during install and everything worked fine. But after installation is complete, the gnome network manager does not know of any network interfaces at all. ifconfig lists both eth0 and eth1 though. Any idea on what I might be missing?
[22:35] <ActionParsnip> cogocogo: if you run: sudo iwlist scan     do you see wireless networks?
[22:38] <cogocogo> ActionParsnip: Yes
[22:39] <cogocogo> ActionParsnip: But none of them are listed in the network manager tool. I have also tried adding a wireless network with the correct SSID and so forth, but nothing happens.
[22:40] <MatthiasHamburg> Hi, I installed newest kernel (linux-server 2.6.24-29) on a hardy machine. But it still boots into 2.6.22-16-server. What can I do? /boot/grub/menu.lst has 2.6.24-29-server has first entry and "default 0"
[22:42] <cogocogo> ActionParsnip: When I click connection information I just get "No valid active connections found"
[22:44] <ActionParsnip> cogocogo: instal wicd, network manager seems to expect wlan0, wicd can be told which interface name to use, should be ok
[22:45] <cogocogo> ActionParsnip: Ok, will try that. Thanks!
[22:46] <chalcedony> fresh 10.10 - but now Monitor Preferences isn't saving my settings?
[22:46] <chalcedony> we got the gui working! YAY
[22:46] <nitetrip> hello, i have a linux machine set up as a router with two nics. I also set up a ssh tunnel so I can use it as a proxy. How would I send all the routed traffic through this ssh tunnel?
[22:47] <chalcedony> hi nitetrip
[22:48] <nitetrip> hello chalcedony :-)
[22:48] <chalcedony> :)
[22:48] <debug_> nitetrip: you can't route everything through ssh but you could setup ssh to route traffic through a proxy-ish connection
[22:48] <klj613> im having trouble with amarok.. my music files are on a NTFS drive located /media/Media and cant seem to import anything..
[22:49] <nitetrip> what I am trying to accomplish is getting my xbox to connect to my linux box and have it go through my ssh tunnel, so I can watch US netflix here in canada
[22:49] <chalcedony> i'm trying to set up my monitors in 10.10. it's not saving the settings when i reboot, is there someplace i need to change something? i have ATI Technologies Inc Radeon HD 3200 Graphics
[22:49] <ActionParsnip> klj613: can you navigate the files in you file browser?
[22:50] <debug_> nitetrip: you will have to use a VPN for that unfortunately
[22:50] <klj613> ActionParsnip: yes
[22:50] <nitetrip> hrm I can set up a vpn through ssh also, can't I ?
[22:50] <klj613> however, i just tried it for a 6th time, and worked now. (running in debug mode)
[22:51] <klj613> my luck it works when i ask for help, thanks anyway.
[22:51] <SIFTU> nitetrip: thats ssh tunneling
[22:51] <debug_> nitetrip: no need, VPN is encrypted (assuming you tell it to be)
[22:52] <debug_> nitetrip: ssh tunnelling is a port by port only protocol
[22:53] <ignarps> I have an application that is stuck in the state "stop/waiting"   The application is down.  How can I clear this ?
[22:53] <chalcedony> ignarps, does it show in top?
[22:53] <ignarps> chalcedony, no the prcoes is not running
[22:54] <chalcedony> ignarps, you tried kill -9 and so on?
[22:54] <ignarps> chalcedony, the application is not up.  I would like to start it.  But the upstart script says.  stop/waiting
[22:55] <ignarps> chalcedony, when I run.  start <servicename>
[22:56] <ignarps> chalcedony, stop returns,  stop: Unknown instance:.   start returns.  <name> stop/waiting
[22:57] <chalcedony> ignarp ouch! shoot the gremlins (i really don't know this one)
[22:57] <cogocogo> ActionParsnip: Weeeeell ... I just renamed the eth1 to wlan0 in udev persistent rules, and now I can't even log in to the machine any more. :p
[22:57] <cogocogo> When I click on the username and start to enter the password, nothing happens.
[22:57] <ignarps> chalcedony, thanks :)  yeah it would seem I need the equivalent of zap in gentoo
[22:58] <cogocogo> I do believe this machine will end up in the garbage tomorrow. :)
[22:59] <Nicolas_Leonida2> where do you put the public keys in ubuntu server?
[22:59] <GummyBear> hi everybody... one question: what if I do tmpfs greater than the RAM I've in my system? for example: tmpfs == 4GB when I've only 2GB physical RAM here... is it expected a normal behavior by making the tmpfs as great as 4GB when are only 2GB RAM available?
[22:59] <dolphm> I have 3 monitors on two identical nvidia cards using ***nouveau***... both monitors on the first card work fine, but the third monitor on the second card doesn't show up in System > Preferences > Monitors... do I need to go somewhere else to enable the second card / third monitor?
[23:00] <chalcedony> ignarps honestly you need to kill it.
[23:00] <ignarps> chalcedony, nothing to kill here
[23:01] <Striker3070> What's the ubuntu database equivalent of Access?
[23:02] <debug_> Striker3070: openoffice.org base
[23:02] <yeats> !info libreoffice-base | Striker3070
[23:02] <ActionParsnip> Striker3070: libreoffice - database
[23:02] <rypervenche> Striker3070: One of the LibreOffice programs.
[23:02] <Striker3070> didn't see it, is it installed by default
[23:02] <ActionParsnip> Striker3070: yes
[23:02] <ActionParsnip> dolphm: you may need to edit the options in the display settings
[23:02] <yeats> Striker3070: LibreOffice is installed by default, but not libreoffice-base - FYI
 thx, going to look for it
 ahh so I have to see if it's in th software center
[23:08] <Nicolas_Leonida2> my server keeps refusing my keys
[23:08] <jrib> Nicolas_Leonida2: did you say please?
[23:08] <Nicolas_Leonida2> what's the location of ssh piblic keys?
[23:09] <Nicolas_Leonida2> jrib, lol
[23:09] <jrib> Nicolas_Leonida2: by default ssh will check ~/.ssh/authorized_keys for authorized keys, but you should just use ssh-copy-id to get your pubkey to your server
[23:10] <jrib> Nicolas_Leonida2: let me ask you this however: do you have your home directory encrypted?
[23:10] <Nicolas_Leonida2> jrib, I'm not sure it's a server I bought
[23:10] <jrib> Nicolas_Leonida2: you should find out :D
[23:11] <kanupatar> HELLO BUDDIES,HOW TO COMPARE HEX FILES IN UBUNTU 11.04
[23:11] <jrib> kanupatar: step 1) disable caps lock
[23:11] <kanupatar> I HAVE KDIFF 3 AND KOMAPARE
[23:11] <jrib> kanupatar: please stop with the caps lock.
[23:11] <kanupatar> IT IS NOT DETECTING THE HEX FORMAT
[23:13] <zima> :)
[23:13] <kanupatar> sorry guys
[23:13] <kanupatar> my caps lock button become stuck
[23:13] <kanupatar> how can i compare hex files in uuntu 11.04
[23:13] <kanupatar> ?
[23:13] <kanupatar> i have kdiff3 and kompare
[23:14] <kanupatar> but they are not detecting it
[23:15] <glisstech> Nicolas_Leonida2: Did you check ~./.ssh
[23:16] <eoss> how to search for files that contain a certain word?
[23:17] <jrib> eoss: grep
[23:17] <eoss> will search all files everywhere?
[23:17] <chalcedony> eoss, grep word *filename* | less (in the directory you think it's in)
[23:18] <eoss> *filename* ?
[23:18] <eoss> i dont know what the filename is thats the problem
[23:19] <matiu> if someone has jaunty installed .. what's the location of the old old repos they can put in sources.list ?
[23:19] <jrib> eoss: how much do you know... how many files do you want to search?
[23:19] <jrib> matiu: you need to upgrade
[23:19] <matiu> so they can still install old old software ?
[23:19] <jrib> !upgrade > matiu
 all <i> the files
[23:19] <need4help> Question: i install a new hard drive that was in ntfs, with gparted i make it ext4, now i dont have permission on it... how do i add permissions on it? its on /dev/sdc
[23:19] <eoss> (in my home directory)
[23:19] <klj613> can anyone suggest any download manages which support fileserve logins? i've downloaded both GWGet and KGet and cant find anywhere to enter login details
[23:19] <jrib> eoss: grep -R word directory
[23:19] <funkeyy> Hi all! i just wanted to creat a crontab for me... "crontab -e" however gives me "/bin/sh: /usr/bin/mate: not found".. any suggestions on what might be wrong here?
[23:20] <eoss> jrib: will it go recursive, ok-R thanks
[23:20] <jrib> funkeyy: does /usr/bin/mate exist?  You may want to consider a different default editor
[23:20] <jrib> eoss: yes, recursive
[23:20] <funkeyy> jrib, could be that its not there.. how do i change it to gedit?
[23:20] <matiu> ubottu, we don't want to upgrade right now .. just install one thing .. :) I know there's something like 'old.archive.ubuntu.com' opr something like that ..
[23:21] <matiu> grr dammit
[23:21] <jrib> funkeyy: try: sudo update-alternatives --config editor
[23:21] <jrib> matiu: you *need* to upgrade, jaunty is no longer supported.  Anyway, the upgrade page tells you the old repositories
[23:22] <chalcedony> i upgraded to Maverick/ 10.10 and got the gui back (YAY)! but it's not saving my settings in Monitor Preferences? i have an ATI Radeon HD 3200 graphics card - got the drivers installed and working finally
[23:22] <chalcedony> but why won't it save?
[23:23] <funkeyy> jrib, crontab still wants to use /usr/bin/mate (which does not exist).. (my default in --config-editor was nano already)
[23:23] <jrib> funkeyy: echo $EDITOR   returns what?
[23:25] <Kradllit> Hi, All! I am from Ukraine. So my English is very bad. But i need yours help. I tried install FreeRDP-1.0 from source. I never did this before. I read wiki compilation and i need run ./autogen.sh  But i don't have this file..
[23:25] <need4help> can anyway help me out... i install a new hard drive... with ext 4 partition but i don't have permission to write on it.. only read... how i create or add permissions? its on /dev/sdc
[23:26] <Polah> Kradllit: To connect to RDP servers you can use rdesktop which comes by default
[23:26] <coz_> Kradllit,  do you have a link so I can take a look at the packages
[23:26] <jrib> Kradllit: freerdp is in the repositories; why are you not using ubuntu's package manager?
[23:26] <funkeyy> jrib,
[23:26] <funkeyy> jrib, /usr/bin/mate -w
[23:26] <jrib> funkeyy: you should change that (or install mate)
[23:26] <Kradllit> I want connect to Windows Server 2008 R2 SP1. It use RDP 7.1 Version
[23:27] <mickster04> !rdp
[23:27] <funkeyy> jrib, how do i change it? sudo select-editor doesnt work.. i chose nano already
[23:27] <jrib> funkeyy: you have EDITOR defined somewhere.  Maybe ~/.profile or ~/.bashrc
[23:28] <need4help> guess i'll have to google for help thanks :/
[23:28] <Polah> Kradllit: Run the command: rdesktop <ip>
[23:28] <jrib> !permissions | need4help
[23:28] <kion> does ubuntu 64 bit comes with flash 64 bit?
[23:28] <Polah> Kradllit, change <ip> to the address of the server, do man rdesktop to find out about options like screen size.
[23:29] <Polah> Kradllit: The server will need to have been configured with Network Level Authentication disabled
[23:29] <dasrs> Hey
[23:30] <Kradllit> kradllit@bt:~$ rdesktop office.karnaval-club.com
[23:30] <Kradllit> Autoselected keyboard map en-us
[23:30] <Kradllit> ERROR: recv: Connection reset by peer
[23:30] <dasrs> I need a Browser for ubuntu which use WebKit to run this demo: http://www.paulrhayes.com/experiments/cube-3d/index.html . know someone a good browser?
[23:30] <kanupatar> how can i compare hex files in uuntu 11.04
[23:31] <kanupatar> i have kdiff3 and kompare
[23:31] <kanupatar> but they are not detecting it
[23:31] <jrib> !enter | kanupatar
[23:31] <kanupatar> ubottu: sure thanks
[23:31] <Stoopit> is there a specific version optimized for intel atom based netbooks?
[23:31] <mickster04> dasrs: try chrome?
[23:32] <Stoopit> my neighbour told me his computer was slow and asked me to look at it, so i want to try ubuntu on it un an SD card to test the speed
[23:32] <Polah> kradllit: You'll need to get physical access to the server or through another method to disable Network Level Authentication on the RDP server
[23:32] <dasrs> Chrome and Firefox are based on gecko, i think.
[23:32] <mickster04> dasrs: well i am on windows and running chrome and it worked
[23:32] <dasrs> mickster04, i use chrome, but it didnt work.
[23:32] <Stanley00> Stoopit: you can try rebuild the kernel for that CPU
[23:32] <Stoopit> Stanley00, is there nothing specific for them to download?
[23:32] <mickster04> dasrs: ah well... i amand it did...so not sure what that's about
[23:32] <Polah> Webkit is used in Safari and Chrome I think, Firefox uses Gecko
[23:33] <Stoopit> Stanley00, i know there was a netbook remix but can only find info about old versions for that
[23:33] <kanupatar> hello
[23:33] <dasrs> mickster04, really? if you press a cursor key, the cube move?
[23:33] <kanupatar> what about my hex compare too ?
[23:33] <Kradllit> But if i want best security with Network Level Authentication? I think maybe FreeRDP-1.0 can connect with Network Level Authentication
[23:33] <kanupatar> tool?
[23:33] <Erfolg> Stoopit: no more netbook remix w/ unity
[23:33] <Polah> Stoopit, there is no netbook edition for 11.04 onwards.
[23:33] <Stanley00> Stoopit: hmm, I think you should consider using an minimal Ubuntu, like lubuntu
[23:33] <Stoopit> :(
[23:34] <Stoopit> i hate unity personally
[23:34] <Erfolg> Stoopit: use gnome 3 then
[23:34] <Stoopit> i think it was silly to go use this by default
[23:34] <Erfolg> Stoopit: same
[23:34] <mickster04> dasrs: yeah
[23:34] <Stoopit> Erfolg, its more of a touchscreen thing imho
[23:34] <dasrs> hmm. very confused.
[23:34] <Stoopit> unity
[23:34] <Erfolg> Stoopit: especially when both suffer from bugs and neither help each other
[23:35] <Polah> Kradllit: I think NLA is for allowing automatic login on connection for users that can authenticate with appropriate credentials from a Windows machine. With it disabled then the connecting user will be presented with a login screen and need to provide a username and password
[23:35] <Stanley00> Stoopit: so give Lubuntu a try :)
[23:35] <dasrs> Polah, do you use chrome under ubuntu?
[23:35] <ActionParsnip> Stoopit: you can use ubuntu classic
[23:35] <Stoopit> Stanley00, thanks i'll google it, never heard of it
[23:35] <Polah> dasrs: No, I use Firefox. You can get it from the repos though
[23:36] <Erfolg> Stoopit: what hardware are you trying to install on?
[23:36] <Stanley00> Stoopit: you are welcome :D
[23:36] <Stoopit> ActionParsnip, yeah i know i do that
[23:36] <Stoopit> but still i hate that unity is default
[23:36] <Polah> Kradllit, NLA is for RDP 6.0 and up, FreeRDP uses a kind of RDP 5.0
[23:36] <ActionParsnip> Stoopit: then you can use a different DE
[23:36] <Stoopit> Erfolg, an acer netbook 250 something
[23:36] <funkeyy> jrib, thanks VERY much.. its been defined in .bashrc
[23:36] <Stoopit> its not mine
[23:36] <jrib> funkeyy: no problem
[23:37] <Erfolg> Stoopit: ah. you could try arch or something a little more minimal than ubuntu if you can't get it to run on there. arch runs fine on my netbook.
[23:38] <mickster04> dasrs: there is chromium and chrome i think, depending on which repos you have listed
[23:38] <jetscreamer> konqueror actually makes a good browser
[23:39] <dasrs> Chromium and Chrome are different browser?
[23:39] <dasrs> @ mickster04
[23:39] <Erfolg> dasrs: no
[23:40] <mickster04> dasrs: uhm. not certain I can't remember what, if at all the difference was
[23:40] <Stoopit> Erfolg, i was just hoping there would be something optimized for the atom / small screens
[23:40] <Erfolg> dasrs: chromium is an open source version of chrome
[23:40] <Stoopit> the thing probably runs default ubuntu just fine
[23:40] <Stoopit> but slow probably
[23:40] <dasrs> Erfolg, beides webkit?
[23:40] <Erfolg> Stoopit: actually right now i'm using chromiumos on mine. you have to build it but it's not hard.
[23:41] <Erfolg> dasrs: no. it's literally the exact same browser. chromium doesn't ship w/ the flash plugin by default is all
[23:41] <Stoopit> ieuw
[23:41] <Kradllit> Polah: Thanks for answer. I go to Google. And will be find information is realy security best with NLA or not
[23:41] <Stoopit> i dont liek chrome and chromium personally
[23:42] <Erfolg> Stoopit: ah. ok
[23:42] <dasrs> hmm. if chrome use webkit, why didnt work the demo on my laptop? *confused*
[23:43] <Kurlon> Kradllit: I think you'll find NLA requires more than just the right RDP version, you need to be using certs with your network stack, your switch and router need to be aware, etc.
[23:43] <mickster04> dasrs: ave you tried turning it off and on again?
[23:43] <Erfolg> Stoopit: also gnome 3 has a special setting bulit in to change it a little for netbooks w/ small screens
[23:43] <mickster04> dasrs: maybe it was working, but really slowly
[23:43] <Neoncamouflage> How can I change the permission on a directory from root to all users?
[23:44] <mickster04> dasrs: i dunno if you know but pressing keyboard keys changes the speed and angle of rotation, so maybe you held it down?
[23:44] <dasrs> mickster04, wait
[23:44] <CajunTechie> Anyone having the GDM totally freeze (or the login box be inactive) on the new beta?
[23:44] <Erfolg> Neoncamouflage: add all your users to group "users" then chown the directory to root:users and chmod 664
[23:44] <zykotick9> CajunTechie, #ubuntu+1 is the channel you should ask
[23:45] <Zopiac> What sort of 3D graphing applications are there for linux?
[23:45] <Stanley00> Stoopit: unity is make for small screen actually :D
[23:45] <CajunTechie> Ahh thans zykotick9
[23:45] <CajunTechie> thanks even
[23:45] <Stoopit> Erfolg, nice i'll keep that in mind
[23:45] <glisstech> zopiak: I know Blender is supposed to be good
[23:46] <Erfolg> he doesn't like unity though
[23:46] <Erfolg> don't blame him
[23:46] <Zopiac> glisstech: not 3d modeling, 3d graphs. like, plotting z=sin(x)/y^e
[23:46] <dasrs> mickster04, does it work? http://jsfiddle.net/Eimer/cXDFT/
[23:46] <zykotick9> glisstech, TAB can be used to autocomplete nicks
[23:47] <dasrs> mickster04, does the cube rotate if you click on "Click me to move".
[23:47] <mickster04> dasrs: no
[23:47] <mickster04> not on the main channel and i am running windows
[23:48] <dasrs> hmm okay.
[23:48] <Magnus> Hi, I tried to install fl studio but got an error message, can not load Get.mfx. This object might need an external program or library not yet installed. what do I do to install it?
[23:49] <dasrs> i am despaired and helpless :(
[23:50] <jrib> !away > satellit_
[23:50] <hafed> linuxac
[23:50] <Neoncamouflage> Thanks Erfolg!
[23:50] <dasrs> mickster04, i start my virtual windows XP, open chrome aaaaannnnnddd -> it did NOT work. oooh my god.
[23:51] <zykotick9> Magnus, you should probably try the #winehq channel
[23:51] <Magnus> ok
[23:51] <mickster04> well the first link you sent out was useful, the second one wasn't
[23:51] <mickster04> dasrs: ^^^^
[23:51] <Erfolg> dasrs: virtual machines don't work with directx
[23:51] <Erfolg> dasrs: chrome requires directx
[23:52] <dasrs> hmm
[23:52] <dasrs> Erfolg, are you a german?
[23:52] <Erfolg> dasrs: no i'm american but i'm a decent german speaker
[23:53] <Kurlon> I thought Virtualbox supported DX now for Windows guests?
[23:53] <vic20gmr> i want to increase the pace available to my ubuntu install , and i was thinking i could add extra partitions with different mount points [/var,/etc/usr and so on], will this work?
[23:53] <primedeath> I was wondering if there was a way to format a CASPER-RW file?
[23:53] <zykotick9> Kurlon, me too (limited obviously)
[23:53] <primedeath> I would like to start fresh without having to completely redo the LiveUSB boot on my portable HDD.
[23:54] <dasrs> can i query you? my english isnt very good and i didnt understand you completly.
[23:54] <vic20gmr> dasrs if you mean me, i supose so
[23:54] <Erfolg> ja
[23:54] <dasrs> @ Erfolg
[23:54] <vic20gmr> ok
[23:55] <vic20gmr> i meant to type space, instead of pace in my question
[23:56] <Stanley00> vic20gmr: it will be okay as long as ubuntu can mount it, and it have right dir struct
[23:56] <jan__> jan618907
[23:56] <Polah> vic20gmr, adding new partitions would not increase the amount of space available to you. It would stop the entire filesystem from being filled as if you place files in /home/ and that partition becomes full you will not be able to place anything there until you remove something, that would stop your unexpectedly running out of space in other parts of your system on different partitions
[23:56] <ChogyDan> [q] what format should I use for a 3 TB backup drive?  that I may want to be compatible with windows...
[23:56] <doodmang> How can I disable effects in Unity?
[23:57] <ChogyDan> doodmang: if no one else has an answer, try ccsm
[23:58] <vic20gmr> Polah i cant add partitions with the various mountpoints to increase the combined freespace then?
[23:59] <qin> vic20gmr: lvm is goodie you think about.
[23:59] <Darth_Tux> in unity is it possible to place the panel on the left on the bottom of the screen?
[23:59] <vic20gmr> qin i dont understand what you mean
[23:59] <Polah> vic20gmr: No, you'd just be splitting up your current space. The only way to get more space would be to get a larger hard drive
[23:59] <doodmang> ChogyDan, what is ccsm? Do you know any other ways to configure Unity? I haven't seen any settings
[23:59] <qin> !lvm | vic20gmr
[23:59] <ChogyDan> Darth_Tux: no


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[08:10] <punxos> Hi
[11:00] <punxos> What kind of pages uses linux in arm ? 4KB , 1KB ?
[17:18] <Tuffeuffe> Hi, I'm a fresh owner of a PandaBoard, and I was happy the other day to hear that ubuntu-omap-extras for 11.10 was released. After installing it however, the picture jerks strangely at full screen. Smaller sizes works.
[17:18] <Tuffeuffe> Has anybody experienced the same problem?
[17:19] <Tuffeuffe> I'm trying to run a 1080 mkv file from an external hard drive
[17:23] <robclark> Tuffeuffe, which player, and do you know what format video the mkv contains?
[17:23] <Tuffeuffe> totem, and let me check the video format..
[17:25] <Tuffeuffe> I also tried to play a video from the apple trailer webpage, but that one didn't even start
[17:26] <robclark> does sound like something is not right..
[17:26] <robclark> note, you might need totem-firefox plugin to watch stuff from apple trailer webpage..  not sure if that is installed by default or not..
[17:26] <robclark> if you download a local copy, totem should play it fine
[17:27] <Tuffeuffe> Ok, true. I can try that
[17:34] <Tuffeuffe> The codec of the video is H264, and it seems the resolution is 1408 x 816. Can that cause a problem?
[17:35] <robclark> in theory, that should be fine
[17:36] <robclark> other thing to check.. it may be the case that your user is not in the (I think?) 'video' group.. so doesn't get permission to open the dev files needed for hw accel decode?
[17:37] <robclark> maybe run totem from cmdline and pastebin the output?
[17:38] <Tuffeuffe> Ok, sure
[17:48] <Tuffeuffe> The only thing it says is "assert: cache_check() (=1) !== 0 at MemMgr_Free(memmgr.c:830)
[17:48] <Tuffeuffe> "
[17:58] <Tuffeuffe> My user is Administrator, so I guess that means I should have access also to the video group?
[18:06] <Tuffeuffe> Actually the problem seems even more deep... If I try to play a real 1080 file I either get seg fault or the framerate is about 0.1 fps (one frame every 10 seconds)
[18:07] <martyn> Ow
[18:14] <Tuffeuffe> I think I will put this one on a mail group somewhere... Thanks anyway!
[18:19] <MarcN> I have a dreamplug running jaunty and trying to upgrade to karmic.  Seeing libc6 error with 'Illegal instruction'.  Anyone see this before?
[18:20] <ogra_> that wont work
[18:21] <ogra_> (it is expected behavior, from karmic on we only support armv7)
[18:25] <ogra_> actually update-manager has a check for that and will pop up an error if you try to upgrade
[18:31] <MarcN> I've had the system off for a while and the jaunty repos are gone.  Didn't have update-manager installed.
[18:32] <ogra_> well, there is no support in ubuntu for anything pre-armv7
[18:33] <ogra_> that was only in jaunty because we initially just rebuilt debian without any changes to get the first archive up
[18:34] <MarcN> So I'm out of luck running any ubuntu on a dreamplug?
[18:38] <ogra_> on that CPU at least
[18:39] <ogra_> (i heard there will be new guru/dreamplugs that will have v7 CPUs)
[18:39] <MarcN> ogra_, hmm, debian an option?
[18:39] <ogra_> generally on an old dremplug i would rather recommend debian
[18:39] <ogra_> yes !
[18:39] <ogra_> :)
[18:40] <ogra_> debian is perfect for this
[18:41] <MarcN> ogra_, it had ubuntu/jaunty pre-installed and hadn't bothered to re-install.  They had some kernel modules and startup scripts n random places like ~root/ , so it wasn't stock.
[18:41] <ogra_> yep
[18:42] <MarcN> ogra_, debian it is.  Thanks.
[18:42] <ogra_> good luck :)
[18:42] <MarcN> ogra_, I've installed on a sheevaplug.  How hard could it be? :-)
[18:42] <ogra_> heh, true


[17:35] <llslim> hello
[17:36] <holstein> llslim: hey there
[17:38] <llslim> holstein: how are you today? have you dealt with ping not timing out with the deadline (-w) option?
[17:39] <holstein> im well
[17:39] <holstein> llslim: whats the issue?
[17:39] <holstein> im not sure ive every used the -w flag
[17:40] <llslim> i'm on a ubuntu 11.04 desktop install in virualbox. i'm trying to write a network sanity check script
[17:40] <llslim> the ping just hangs
[17:40] <holstein> what are you pinging?
[17:43] <llslim> local network address <IP_ADDRESS> apart of a ifupdown mapping script. if the networkis unreachable then i'm setting up another static connection on 192.168.1x network
[17:44] <holstein> llslim: did you set Vbox up that way?
[17:44] <holstein> to communicate with your network, and get its own IP?
[17:45] <holstein> run ifconfig, and see what IP the virtual machine has
[17:45] <holstein> if its a 192.168.1.x, then you *should* be able to get through, and ping
[17:47] <llslim> yup it works if i manual set it, but the ping hangs on check script. and on the commandline when i try to ping an non-existent address i have to ctrl-c everytime
[17:48] <llslim> ping doesn't give any feedback on ubuntu
[17:50] <llslim> neither -w or -W have any effect
[17:52] <llslim> -w and -W are timeout options of ping. sorry
[17:52] <holstein> yeah, i looked at ping -help
[17:53] <holstein> but, its just always worked for me, or its been hardware related
[17:55] <llslim> i can ping existing host just fine. i just need a timeout response from ping to let the script move on and not idle
[17:57] <holstein> i would probably try #ubuntu-server and/or #ubuntu-beginners
[17:57] <holstein> * not that its a beginner question
[17:58] <llslim> and i logged onto my shell account on my web hosting company. the options worked fine there. so it's either a ubuntu issue or vbox issue. if -w issues works for you it must me a box issue i'll try those channels as well.
[17:58] <holstein> well, im not sure how to use -w
[17:58] <holstein> but i just tried something with it, and it seemed to work
[17:59] <holstein> i would say, Vbox is the constant, but more than that, the Vbox networking scenario
[18:00] <llslim> -w 2 ping a host if it doesn't return a response in 2 seconds it should timeout.
[18:01] <llslim> i say vbox too but i needed to confirm it wasn't a ubunu issue first
[18:03] <llslim> thanks for all your help. i found this channel by a youtube result of a google search. glad to see there's a linux specific irc channel in NC.
[18:05] <holstein> llslim: glad to see you :)
[18:05] <llslim> i will visit more often. :)
[22:05] <_marx_> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y00yMrMIMtc
[22:13] <holstein> _marx_: cool
[22:13] <holstein> these are handy too
[22:13] <holstein> http://wnclug.blogspot.com/p/chat.html
[22:18] <holstein> _marx_: you should share that at the facebook page if you havent already*
[22:32] <_marx_> ubuntu nc fb page
[22:32] <_marx_> don't know if that's what he found on youtube