[04:21] <ubotu> New bug: #194955 in ubuntu "Test bug" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/194955
[04:30] <ubotu> New bug: #194936 in xserver-xorg-video-intel (main) "Hardy - Problem with shutdown and reboot with Intel X3500 82G35 Express Integrated Graphics Controller " [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/194936
[04:30] <ubotu> New bug: #194956 in ubuntu "ausa m2s-x sound driver (cm-6501)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/194956
[04:45] <ubotu> New bug: #194958 in hyphen (universe) "Please sync hyphen 2.3.1-1 (universe) from Debian unstable (main)." [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/194958
[05:05] <ubotu> New bug: #194960 in gnome-power-manager (main) "[Hardy]Battery charge never updates, remaining time always unknown" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/194960
[05:40] <ubotu> New bug: #194449 in bzip2 (main) "FTBFS in latest archive rebuild test" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/194449
[05:46] <ubotu> New bug: #194963 in linux-restricted-modules-2.6.24 (restricted) "ATI Driver not working on Compaq V2321US (Xpress200)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/194963
[05:50] <ubotu> New bug: #194455 in libselinux (main) "FTBFS in latest archive rebuild test" [High,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/194455
[06:00] <ubotu> New bug: #194964 in ps3pf-utils (main) "ps3pf-utils is out of date in hardy" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/194964
[06:15] <ubotu> New bug: #194965 in linux (main) "bluetooth does not open the phone connection" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/194965
[06:15] <ubotu> New bug: #194966 in linux (main) "bluetooth does not open the phone connection" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/194966
[06:15] <ubotu> New bug: #194967 in mail-notification (universe) "mail-notification doesn't wait for network connection" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/194967
[06:20] <ubotu> New bug: #194482 in gvfs (main) "gvfs can't access SFTP on alternate ports" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/194482
[06:22] <bardyr> hey, i have a old bug report on #152001 its fixed in hardy, what should i do with it?
[06:25] <ubotu> New bug: #194968 in xubuntu-artwork (universe) "MurrinaStormCloud theme checkbox-list colors" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/194968
[06:30] <ubotu> New bug: #178174 in simple-ccsm (universe) "simple-ccsm crashed with ImportError in <module>()" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/178174
[06:36] <ubotu> New bug: #194970 in firefox (universe) "[Hardy] Incorrect .desktop files" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/194970
[06:37] <ubotu> New bug: #194459 in firefox-themes-ubuntu (main) "FTBFS in latest archive rebuild test" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/194459
[06:46] <ubotu> New bug: #194456 in evolution-sharp (main) "FTBFS in latest archive rebuild test" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/194456
[06:46] <ubotu> New bug: #194468 in gksu (main) "FTBFS in the latest archive rebuild test" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/194468
[06:46] <ubotu> New bug: #194752 in ubuntu "I can't use my wired network(Realtek 8139) in ubuntu 8.04 alpha 5" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/194752
[06:55] <ubotu> New bug: #194475 in irda-utils (main) "FTBFS in latest archive rebuild test" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/194475
[07:01] <ubotu> New bug: #194972 in ubuntu "cannot import atk" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/194972
[07:05] <ubotu> New bug: #194973 in compiz (main) "Motion blur and Water effect plugins are incompatible" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/194973
[07:20] <ubotu> New bug: #194977 in update-manager (main) "Adept manager is holding add/remove programs files hostage" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/194977
[07:25] <ubotu> New bug: #194212 in ubuntu "[Feature Freeze Exception]OpenProj" [Undecided,Won't fix] https://launchpad.net/bugs/194212
[07:25] <ubotu> New bug: #194518 in libgd2 (main) "FTBFS in the latest archive rebuild" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/194518
[07:25] <ubotu> New bug: #194691 in ubuntu "Hangs during shutdown sequence" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/194691
[07:30] <ubotu> New bug: #194519 in libloader (main) "FTBFS in latest archive rebuild test" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/194519
[07:30] <ubotu> New bug: #194979 in ubuntu ""Home Folder" keyboard shortcut does not work" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/194979
[07:35] <ubotu> New bug: #194525 in linux-ntfs (main) "FTBFS in latest archive rebuild test" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/194525
[07:41] <ubotu> New bug: #194530 in miscfiles (main) "FTBFS in latest archive rebuild test" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/194530
[07:41] <ubotu> New bug: #194910 in gnucash (universe) "Transaction is not focused in new windows" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/194910
[07:46] <ubotu> New bug: #194981 in redland (main) "librdf0 1.0.6 is mismatched with libraptor0 1.4.16" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/194981
[07:51] <ubotu> New bug: #194667 in ubuntu "'E:Encountered a section with no Package: header, E:Problem with MergeList /var/lib/apt/lists/fr.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_hardy_universe_i18n_Translation-fr, E:Les listes de paquets ou le fichier « status » ne peuvent être analysés ou lus.' (dup-of: 194436)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/194667
[08:06] <ubotu> New bug: #194982 in nautilus (main) "Option to disable creation of desktop icons for network shares accessed through nautilus" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/194982
[08:06] <ubotu> New bug: #194983 in desktop-effects-kde (universe) "desktop-effects-kde4 should install kicker-compiz & kicker-taskbar-compiz" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/194983
[08:16] <ubotu> New bug: #194984 in update-manager (main) "Update Manager Doesn't Pay Attention to Network Status" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/194984
[08:25] <ubotu> New bug: #194985 in ubuntu "Restricted Driver Manager does not display fglrx after installation" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/194985
[08:35] <ubotu> New bug: #194986 in desktop-effects-kde (universe) "With compiz fusion enabled some KDE apps print garbage" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/194986
[08:40] <ubotu> New bug: #194987 in totem (main) "Totem quits on startup due to X Window System error" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/194987
[08:50] <ubotu> New bug: #194989 in ubuntu "widescreen problems" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/194989
[08:55] <ubotu> New bug: #192202 in ubuntu-doc "copyright dates not being updated" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/192202
[08:55] <ubotu> New bug: #194793 in language-pack-cs (main) "Nové návrhy na překlad šablony files-and-docs v balíku kubuntu-docs" [Undecided,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/194793
[09:01] <ubotu> New bug: #194436 in update-manager (main) "Encountered a section with no Package: header" [Low,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/194436
[09:06] <ubotu> New bug: #194991 in ubuntu "Dell e173fp flat panel screen resolution issues" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/194991
[09:07] <Iulian> Hi
[09:08] <Unksi> hi
[09:11] <ubotu> New bug: #194992 in gnome-orca (main) "In Hardyheron Alpha5 release Orca can not load the new setup preferences with Live cd." [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/194992
[09:21] <ubotu> New bug: #194851 in compiz (main) "Pink shadows with Compiz" [Low,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/194851
[09:26] <ubotu> New bug: #194995 in ubuntu "select language" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/194995
[09:29] <afflux> How to debug a system freeze while running compiz where I could still move the mouse and relogin using SysRq-k?
[09:40] <ubotu> New bug: #194885 in firefox-3.0 (main) "[hardy] Firefox 3 eats 90 % CPU because of java script" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/194885
[09:40] <ubotu> New bug: #194939 in bash (main) "Removing command-not-found results in error" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/194939
[09:40] <ubotu> New bug: #194997 in ubuntu "i was print a document" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/194997
[09:41] <ubotu> New bug: #194876 in ubuntu "Sound hit or miss" [Undecided,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/194876
[09:45] <ubotu> New bug: #194195 in rhythmbox "Make rhythmbox fade out audio on stop" [Wishlist,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/194195
[09:45] <ubotu> New bug: #194642 in evolution-data-server "name parameter for content-type for attachments should be last" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/194642
[09:45] <ubotu> New bug: #194705 in f-spot "f-spot slideshow funky colours on powerpc" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/194705
[09:45] <ubotu> New bug: #194825 in brasero "Text location field doesn't work" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/194825
[09:45] <ubotu> New bug: #194908 in gnome-panel "Increase visibility of calendar appointments" [Wishlist,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/194908
[09:45] <ubotu> New bug: #194952 in ubuntu "eyes pain, probably due video configuratio" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/194952
[09:51] <ubotu> New bug: #194998 in ubuntu "Main menu creating application does not allow you to browse the path of a manually edited location" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/194998
[09:51] <ubotu> New bug: #194999 in grub (main) "unable to install hardy twice" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/194999
[09:51] <ubotu> New bug: #195000 in ubuntu "[Ubuntu 8.04 alpha5] hardy-alternate-i386 fails to install GRUB " [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/195000
[09:51] <ubotu> New bug: #195002 in ktorrent-kde4 (universe) "[Hardy] Ktorrent KDE4 doesn't accept torrent url as argument" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/195002
[10:01] <ubotu> New bug: #194937 in linux-source-2.6.22 "No sound whatsoever on Toshiba Satellite P105-S9339" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/194937
[10:01] <ubotu> New bug: #195003 in ubuntu "java not working" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/195003
[10:06] <ubotu> New bug: #194938 in vlc (main) "Polling gettimeofday Often, powertop report" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/194938
[10:10] <ubotu> New bug: #194905 in gdm (main) "Don't switch back to user name field if password is entered incorrectly" [Wishlist,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/194905
[10:10] <ubotu> New bug: #195004 in gnome-mount (main) "Storing keys in gnome-keyring does not work" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/195004
[10:10] <ubotu> New bug: #195005 in debian-installer (main) "Debian installer using old translations" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/195005
[10:11] <ubotu> New bug: #194888 in nautilus (main) "all window error" [Low,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/194888
[10:11] <ubotu> New bug: #194900 in gdm (main) "Detect non-existent user names at login screen" [Wishlist,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/194900
[10:15] <ubotu> New bug: #194897 in synaptic (main) "Add system-upgrade.png to theme (fixes Synaptic 'Mark All Upgrades')" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/194897
[10:15] <ubotu> New bug: #194901 in gimp (main) "GIMP default save directory" [Wishlist,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/194901
[10:15] <ubotu> New bug: #195006 in ubuntu "Crash with update-manager" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/195006
[10:20] <ubotu> New bug: #195007 in gnome-panel (main) "Workspace Switcher Prefernces" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/195007
[10:20] <ubotu> New bug: #195008 in linux (main) "kernel panic: fails to mount root device" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/195008
[10:20] <ubotu> New bug: #195009 in ubuntu "synaptic touchpad not detected" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/195009
[10:21] <ubotu> New bug: #194850 in fretsonfire (universe) "FretsOnFire.py crashed with RuntimeError in _load()" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/194850
[10:30] <ubotu> New bug: #195011 in netatalk (universe) "netatalk fails assertion, afpd won't launch" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/195011
[10:30] <ubotu> New bug: #195012 in haskell-x11-extras (universe) "libghc6-x11-extras-dev in hardy is not installable" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/195012
[10:36] <ubotu> New bug: #193911 in katapult (main) "katapult doesn't repeat keys" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/193911
[10:36] <ubotu> New bug: #194886 in ubuntu-docs (main) "Hardy Heron cd repo name needs testing" [Low,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/194886
[10:36] <ubotu> New bug: #195013 in firefox-3.0 (main) "Firefox's Italian translation missing" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/195013
[10:46] <ubotu> New bug: #193902 in firefox-3.0 (main) "[Hardy alpha5] Firefox launcher is broken (on the top menu)" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/193902
[10:46] <ubotu> New bug: #194469 in update-manager (main) "Major crash on update from Ubuntu 6.06 to 8.04" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/194469
[10:46] <ubotu> New bug: #195014 in libdvdread (universe) "Merge libdvdread 0.9.7-8 from Debian(Unstable)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/195014
[10:46] <ubotu> New bug: #195015 in ubuntu "Low refresh rate" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/195015
[10:46] <ubotu> New bug: #195016 in gnome-panel (main) "Window switcher and Compiz-Fusion incompatible?" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/195016
[10:55] <ubotu> New bug: #195018 in linux-source-2.6.22 "linux-rt freezes on suspend" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/195018
[10:56] <ubotu> New bug: #193899 in gnome-screensaver (main) "[Edgy] Screensaver crashes after unlock" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/193899
[11:05] <ubotu> New bug: #195020 in ubuntu "Locale it_IT missing, but it's present" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/195020
[11:07] <qense> Should I assign bug reports immediatly to the package maintainer/developer when I'm triaging one or should I assign it first to myself and when it's triaged to the maintainer?
[11:10] <qense> anyone?
[11:15] <persia> qense: You should only assign bug reports to people when you know they will do it.  Typically this means only assign bugs to yourself, to people you manage, or to people who ask you to do so.
[11:16] <qense> persia: thanks, but when I've triaged the bug and it's ready to be looked upon by the developer, what should I do?
[11:16] <persia> qense: Set it to be unassigned.  Anyone is then welcome to work on it.
[11:17] <qense> ok
[11:17] <qense> and what about teams?
[11:17] <qense> they should also assign themselves
[11:17] <qense> ?
[11:17] <persia> qense: The same idea typically applies.
[11:17] <qense> ok, thanks
[11:25] <ubotu> New bug: #194909 in ubuntu "[needs-packaging]: libdwarf" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/194909
[11:31] <ubotu> New bug: #194715 in linux (main) "rt2x00 suspend to ram won't work" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/194715
[11:31] <ubotu> New bug: #194719 in gnome-power-manager (main) "01_proc_sys_batteries.patch causes a regression making gnome-power-manager not detecting the battery properly" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/194719
[11:31] <ubotu> New bug: #195028 in ubuntu "Upgrade bug gutsy to hardy (python errors)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/195028
[11:36] <ubotu> New bug: #194814 in kdebase-kde4 (universe) "A lot of programms can't start because of KComponentData" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/194814
[11:41] <ubotu> New bug: #194335 in i8kutils (universe) "i8kutils does not create /proc/i8k" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/194335
[11:41] <ubotu> New bug: #195029 in mozplugger (universe) "Merge mozplugger 1.10.1-2 from Debian(Unstable)" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/195029
[11:46] <ubotu> New bug: #195030 in ubuntu "Flash for Linux (F4L)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/195030
[11:51] <ubotu> New bug: #176473 in memaker "layer ordering is not intuitive" [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/176473
[11:51] <ubotu> New bug: #195031 in xserver-xorg-video-intel (main) "screen smuges" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/195031
[11:55] <ubotu> New bug: #195034 in language-pack-cs (main) "Nové návrhy na překlad šablony basic-concepts v balíku kubuntu-docs" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/195034
[11:56] <ubotu> New bug: #194832 in ubuntu "network traffic pulsing" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/194832
[12:01] <james_w> anyone have any idea where /var/lib/python-support/python2.5/bootconfig/__init__.py may come from? It seems to be causing #195028. I can't find any package with that name, nor any package containing files with that name.
[12:01] <james_w> or rather, where it doesn't come from, as it's absence is causing the error, but some package has told python-support that it exists.
[12:05] <persia> I've hit the wrong key and lost backscroll, but apt-file tends to be a handy tool to find which package may be providing a file.
[12:12] <ubotu> New bug: #193856 in transmission "transmission 1.0.5 doesn't set window icon properly" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/193856
[12:16] <ubotu> New bug: #194340 in screenlets (universe) "WindowlistScreenlet.py crashed with SIGSEGV" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/194340
[12:16] <ubotu> New bug: #195035 in rhythmbox (main) "rhythmbox won't play a specific track if crossfading is activated" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/195035
[12:16] <ubotu> New bug: #195036 in screenlets (universe) "MainMenuScreenlet.py crashed with TypeError in __render_cell()" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/195036
[12:25] <james_w> persia: yeah, I've been using packages.ubuntu.com, but it gave no results.
[12:25] <persia> james_w: That's often out of date.  Does apt-file also give you no results?  How about dpkg -S (assuming you have the file locally)?
[12:26] <ubotu> New bug: #195038 in ubuntu "Ark don't handle 7z password protected files properly" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/195038
[12:26] <james_w> persia: I don't have it locally, I'm installing apt-file now.
[12:26] <persia> james_w: The nice thing about apt-file is that you can run apt-file update to pull the latest Contents.gz manually.  The update schedule for packages.ubuntu.com is unknown.
[12:27] <james_w> yeah, I'm familiar with the tool, but I didn't have it installed, and thought p.u.c would be quicker, but broken is worse than slower.
[12:29] <persia> james_w: p.u.c tends to have acceptable levels of service for releases, but it doesn't track development very well.
[12:29] <james_w> ok, this gets stranger by the minute. apt-file fingers startupmanager, which I have already grabbed the source package off, as google hinted that as well.
[12:30] <james_w> however, apt-file suggests it is using pycentral, when the problem is with pysupport.
[12:31] <james_w> also, the source package has no files called bootconfig, and the string doesn't appear in any file either.
[12:31] <ubotu> New bug: #194912 in ghc6 (universe) "ghc6 6.8.2-1ubuntu1 FTBFS on sparc" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/194912
[12:31] <persia> james_w: Try downloading the possibly offending binary, and inspecting with dpkg --contents.
[12:32] <james_w> there's also a very different version in gutsy, so I'll try that as well.
[12:34] <james_w> ah, I had gutsy, hardy does contain the offending files, now to follow the upgrade path and find the bug.
[12:41] <ubotu> New bug: #194632 in mono (main) "package libmono2.0-cil 1.2.6+dfsg-5ubuntu2 failed to install/upgrade: dependency problems - leaving unconfigured (dup-of: 184681)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/194632
[12:41] <ubotu> New bug: #194754 in gfax (universe) "Can't be installed, unmet libgnomeprint2.2-0 dependency" [Undecided,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/194754
[12:41] <ubotu> New bug: #195041 in screem (main) "screem file not found" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/195041
[12:41] <ubotu> New bug: #195042 in sun-java6 (multiverse) "Java software don't run" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/195042
[12:50] <ubotu> New bug: #195045 in ubuntu "file-roller can't handle 7z password protected files" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/195045
[12:51] <ubotu> New bug: #194446 in bogofilter (main) "FTBFS in latest archive rebuild test" [High,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/194446
[12:55] <ubotu> New bug: #194529 in lockfile-progs (main) "FTBFS in latest archive rebuild test" [High,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/194529
[12:55] <ubotu> New bug: #195046 in mozilla-firefox "Ubuntu Firefox bookmarks migration" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/195046
[13:00] <ubotu> New bug: #194557 in python2.5 (main) "FTBFS in latest rebuild test" [High,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/194557
[13:06] <ubotu> New bug: #194566 in usbutils (main) "FTBFS in latest rebuild test" [High,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/194566
[13:06] <ubotu> New bug: #194929 in ubuntu "hardy alpha5, i810 fuzzy/choppy problems" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/194929
[13:21] <ubotu> New bug: #195051 in xserver-xorg-video-ati (main) "X freezes when Compiz is enabled on ATI Radeon Mobility" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/195051
[13:22] <ubotu> New bug: #192334 in screenlets (universe) "VolumeControlScreenlet.py crashed with ValueError in updateBar()" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/192334
[13:22] <ubotu> New bug: #194166 in update-manager "Update manager calls gksu instead of /usr/bin/gksu" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/194166
[13:35] <ubotu> New bug: #195055 in ubuntu "Hardy Alpha 5 fails to start on Asus F3Jp with ATI X1700" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/195055
[13:35] <ubotu> New bug: #195056 in kdegraphics (main) "Cannot OCR image from within Kooka" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/195056
[13:36] <ubotu> New bug: #195053 in project-x (universe) "Project-x needs to depend on libcommons-net-java" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/195053
[13:36] <ubotu> New bug: #195054 in bip (universe) "Please sync bip 0.7.0-1 (universe) from Debian unstable (main)." [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/195054
[13:39] <bobbo> Could someone give me a second opinion on Bug #195038 and Bug #195045 . I marked them as duplicate as the program the reporter is talking about is provided by the package described in Bug #122935
[13:39] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 195038 in ubuntu "Ark don't handle 7z password protected files properly (dup-of: 122935)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/195038
[13:39] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 122935 in p7zip "p7zip can't decompress password protected 7z files" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/122935
[13:39] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 195045 in ubuntu "file-roller can't handle 7z password protected files (dup-of: 122935)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/195045
[13:41] <secretlondon> hi
[13:50] <pochu> hi secretlondo{,n} :P
[13:52] <Iulian> Hey secretlondon, pochu
[13:56] <ubotu> New bug: #195058 in kdegraphics (main) "[wishlist] Add new OCR engines to Kooka. I would like Tesseract" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/195058
[13:56] <ubotu> New bug: #195059 in thunderbird (main) "Thunderbird package description ends with "XXX Todo"" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/195059
[14:01] <ubotu> New bug: #195061 in tracker (main) "Ignored paths and files not ignored" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/195061
[14:06] <ubotu> New bug: #194686 in funguloids (multiverse) "Error installing Funguloids: ogre-plugins-cgprogrammanager doesnt exist" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/194686
[14:06] <james_w> bobbo: I'm not so sure.
[14:06] <ubotu> New bug: #195063 in file-roller "[hardy] file-roller silently omits files upon .tar(.gz,.bz2) creation" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/195063
[14:06] <ubotu> New bug: #195064 in camorama (universe) "camorama freezes after startup" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/195064
[14:06] <ubotu> New bug: #195065 in ubuntu "Please sync ogre-plugins-cgprogrammanager from debian sid" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/195065
[14:08] <james_w> bobbo: if the command line 7z program allows you to do it, then file-roller should as well.
[14:12] <bobbo> james_w: file-roller and ark depend on the package that Bug #122935 gets the same errors with
[14:12] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 122935 in p7zip "p7zip can't decompress password protected 7z files" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/122935
[14:13] <james_w> bobbo: yes, but I thought that one said that it works with 7z, but not 7za etc.
[14:13]  * secretlondon is ploughing through her bug mail
[14:14] <james_w> so, perhaps file-roller and ark should prefer p7zip-full, and they should definitely prefer 7z over 7za etc.
[14:14] <bobbo> james_w: file-roller and ark both suggest p7zip-full not p7zip
[14:21] <ubotu> New bug: #195066 in gnome-power-manager (main) "Display doesn't always go to sleep" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/195066
[14:21] <ubotu> New bug: #195067 in ubuntu "Ubuntu is slower than Windows" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/195067
[14:21] <ubotu> New bug: #195068 in dx (universe) "[typo] in package description: Currently Exploror" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/195068
[14:22] <ubotu> New bug: #193879 in update-manager (main) "dist-upgrade failure,could not download repository indexes" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/193879
[14:25] <ubotu> New bug: #195071 in util-linux (main) "umount's "device is busy" statement is verbose?" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/195071
[14:30] <ubotu> New bug: #195072 in firefox-3.0 (main) "Firefox 3 beta 3 "go back" UI is wrong with Hardy alpha 5" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/195072
[14:31] <pochu> hey Iulian
[14:35] <ubotu> New bug: #195075 in ubiquity (main) "Typo in german translation of installer" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/195075
[14:40] <ubotu> New bug: #195076 in gimp (main) "The GIMP is named in hardy alpha 5 GNU Image Manipulation Program which is not explicit" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/195076
[14:45] <bddebian> Boo
[14:45] <ubotu> New bug: #194918 in ubuntu "Can't login Ubuntu 8.04 i386 Alpha 5 Full Install Desktop CD" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/194918
[14:46] <ubotu> New bug: #195077 in ubuntu "Hardy Alpha5: wine is broken." [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/195077
[14:47] <secretlondon> hi bddebian
[14:48] <bddebian> Hello secretlondon
[15:01] <afflux> How do we handle bugs about typos in translations? Change the translation and mark as fix commited?
[15:06] <ubotu> New bug: #194326 in gtkpbbuttons (universe) "mac-book Trackpad" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/194326
[15:06] <ubotu> New bug: #194809 in compizconfig-settings-manager (universe) "Integration with desktop environment should be more flexible" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/194809
[15:06] <ubotu> New bug: #195082 in rhythmbox (main) "mms does not work with activated crossfading" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/195082
[15:06] <ubotu> New bug: #195083 in brasero (main) "Cancel dialog buttons' wording is confusing" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/195083
[15:07] <ubotu> New bug: #195079 in bibletime (universe) "BibleTime in Hardy alpha5 crashes with signal 11 (SIGSEGV)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/195079
[15:07] <ubotu> New bug: #195081 in firefox-3.0 (main) "Firefox 3-3 does not print web page or information.  Using Ubuntu alpha, Everything else prints. OK  " [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/195081
[15:10] <ubotu> New bug: #195086 in ubuntu "[Gutsy, KDE, v3.5.9] Wen asking information about a DVDRAM the progress bar doesn't update" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/195086
[15:15] <ubotu> New bug: #195022 in conky "Conky runs in a black window on Hardy" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/195022
[15:20] <ubotu> New bug: #195088 in ghostscript (main) "package gs-common 8.61.dfsg.1-1ubuntu2 failed to install/upgrade: dependency problems - leaving unconfigured" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/195088
[15:20] <ubotu> New bug: #195089 in ubiquity (main) "installer io exception not reported in GUI" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/195089
[15:21] <ubotu> New bug: #195090 in command-not-found (main) "Entering ".." in the shell suggests bogus commands" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/195090
[15:21] <ubotu> New bug: #195091 in ubuntu "Giver Package" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/195091
[15:31] <ubotu> New bug: #194350 in gnome-power-manager (main) "gnome-power-manager does nothing when my battery runs out (dup-of: 135548)" [Low,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/194350
[15:31] <ubotu> New bug: #194826 in xserver-xorg-video-via "Corrupt display while/after booting on VIA P4M900 internal graphiccard" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/194826
[15:31] <ubotu> New bug: #195092 in ubuntu "Fglrx Freezing Ubuntu/Gutsy" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/195092
[15:31] <ubotu> New bug: #195094 in ktorrent-kde4 (universe) "Random segfault while downloading using ktorrent-kde4" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/195094
[15:36] <ubotu> New bug: #195095 in gnome-power-manager (main) "Get notification about sleep failed even though it seems to have gone well after suspend" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/195095
[15:41] <ubotu> New bug: #195098 in evolution (main) "mails stay in the outbox even when sent and are sent again" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/195098
[15:45] <ubotu> New bug: #194817 in hardware-monitor (universe) "Listed under empty "Utility" category instead of "System and Hardware" or "Utilities"" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/194817
[15:55] <ubotu> New bug: #194201 in hal (main) "Battery Monitor not working (neither the battery applet) on Hardy" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/194201
[15:55] <ubotu> New bug: #194343 in ubuntu "Keyboard goes suddenly bananas" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/194343
[15:55] <ubotu> New bug: #195100 in wildmidi (universe) "Wildmidi should provide a timiditi.conf file" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/195100
[15:56] <secretlondon> lotsa bugs today
[15:56] <secretlondon> guess everyone is at home playing with their computers
[15:56] <lee__> ;-)
[15:59] <afflux> playing with alpha 5, especially
[15:59] <secretlondon> yep
[16:05] <pochu> slomo_, persia: bug 195100 sounds familiar :)
[16:05] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 195100 in wildmidi "Wildmidi should provide a timiditi.conf file" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/195100
[16:05] <pochu> slomo_: should I move the configuration file from gst-bad to libwildmidi and change where the gst midi plugin checks for the configuration file?
[16:05] <ubotu> New bug: #194681 in firefox-3.0 (main) "Firefox Packages Search Bar Uses Old URL" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/194681
[16:06] <secretlondon> hmm evolution data server is using 75% of my cpu..
[16:06] <pochu> secretlondon: you are lucky if it doesn't use a 100% cpu
[16:06] <secretlondon> yeah - doesn't look very friendly for a celeron 1200
[16:06] <pochu> secretlondon: bug 151536
[16:06] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 151536 in evolution-data-server "Hangs on login and uses 100% cpu" [Medium,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/151536
[16:07] <secretlondon> ah
[16:11] <ubotu> New bug: #194743 in tracker (main) "tracker-applet icon constantly animates even when idle" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/194743
[16:13] <secretlondon> wonder if that is the same old tracker and image files bug
[16:16] <ubotu> New bug: #194887 in linux (main) "rtl8187 doesn't load with 2.6.24-8" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/194887
[16:26] <hggdh> secretlondon: still with 70%+ CPU on e-d-s?
[16:26] <secretlondon> yeah
[16:26] <secretlondon> download debug packages
[16:26] <hggdh> yes
[16:26] <hggdh> then gdb into it
[16:26] <secretlondon> I'm doing
[16:27] <hggdh> and 'thread apply all bt', please. You will also need libbonobo and glib* debug packages
[16:27] <secretlondon> yeah
[16:27] <secretlondon> just getting them all
[16:27] <hggdh> secretlondon: is Evo itself running, or just e-d-s?
[16:28] <secretlondon> its the same with both
[16:28] <secretlondon> i've closed evo and stiull have the 70%+ cpu
[16:29] <secretlondon> the dbgsym packages seem to be for earlier versions
[16:29] <secretlondon> could be me though
[16:29] <hggdh> use the dbg
[16:30] <secretlondon> yeah I don't have dbg for all bits of evo
[16:31] <hggdh> the dbgsym are created after the packages. Evo build-up (and glib) also create *.dbg. Either dbgsym or dbg will do the trick (but, of course, not both at the same time)
[16:31] <ubotu> New bug: #185588 in evolution-data-server "evolution-data-server-2.22 crashed with signal 5" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/185588
[16:31] <ubotu> New bug: #195103 in update-manager (main) "Bug d'update-manager" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/195103
[16:31] <pochu> hggdh: I have that once in a while, but I never use evolution
[16:31] <pochu> I use tasks, though. not sure if it is related
[16:31] <secretlondon> don't have -dbg for libbonobo, only dbgsym (which are for earlier versions)
[16:34] <james_w> Anyone suggest how to get hold of gdm logs when the reporter can't login?
[16:35] <james_w> I'm going to suggest trying a different session, but any other suggestions would be useful
[16:35] <james_w> bug 194918
[16:35] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 194918 in ubuntu "Can't login Ubuntu 8.04 i386 Alpha 5 Full Install Desktop CD" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/194918
[16:35] <ubotu> New bug: #195104 in amsn (universe) "Amsn won't start. It initialization script fails." [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/195104
[16:39] <secretlondon> downloading at 3k/s
[16:39] <hggdh> pochu: I have been trying to zero in this loop without success... mv o got some backtraces, but incomplete. I myself had it only once, but my S.O. took me out of the laptop kicking & screaming, so I could not follow it
[16:40] <ubotu> New bug: #195105 in firefox-3.0 (main) "Choosing from Firefox context menu to view a selected image should open the default GNOME image viewer" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/195105
[16:40] <hggdh> james_w: if you log in via tty0, you can get  the /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[16:41] <james_w> hggdh: how do you get to tty0?
[16:42] <hggdh> press Ctrl-Alt-F1
[16:42] <james_w> hggdh: ah, that doesn't work on my machine, so I didn't want to suggest it.
[16:43] <hggdh> try to login into X/GDM by changing the session type to fail-safe Gnome
[16:44] <hggdh> then (if successful) ask the reporter to look for Xorg.1.log
[16:44] <hggdh> or change the session type to xterm
[16:44] <hggdh> (bottom left of the GDM login page)
[16:44] <secretlondon> its suddenly stopped - i noticed when the fan stopped
[16:45] <james_w> thanks hggdh
[16:45] <hggdh> secretlondon: darn! once again we cannot get it
[16:45] <ubotu> New bug: #195107 in language-pack-cs (main) "Nové návrhy na překlad šablony games v balíku kubuntu-docs" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/195107
[16:46] <secretlondon> i have something
[16:46] <hggdh> pochu: remember that e-d-s is used elsewhere in gnome (perhaps tasks?)
[16:46] <hggdh> secretlondon: what do you have?
[16:46] <secretlondon> just attaching
[16:46] <hggdh> k
[16:50] <secretlondon> doesn't look that useful
[16:50] <ubotu> New bug: #195108 in firefox-3.0 (main) "Firefox should make use of the GNOME passwords manager to manage its passwords" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/195108
[16:51] <ubotu> New bug: #194263 in gnome-power-manager (main) "gnome-power-manager does not work as expected after updates. (Hardy) (dup-of: 194201)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/194263
[16:55] <secretlondon> x crashed. when it started up evo did the same thing, and then stopped using 100% cpu after I started gdb (again)
[16:55] <ubotu> New bug: #194834 in hal (main) "battery charge level is not updated at all (dup-of: 194201)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/194834
[16:55] <ubotu> New bug: #195109 in firefox-3.0 (main) "Firefox is not compatible with GNOME session manager" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/195109
[16:56] <hggdh> secretlondon: yes, missing a lot of symbols...
[16:57] <hggdh> I am giving up on it... I will open upstream with what we have, and hope that someone there also has it
[16:58] <secretlondon> the one I have after restart has more
[16:58] <secretlondon> but I can't install a lot of the debug versions as they are too old
[16:59] <hggdh> secretlondon: yes, there are some packages out-of-sync. The Evo dbg/dbgsym are OK, but some others are not
[16:59] <hggdh> glib seems to be ok, though
[17:00] <hggdh> (for adm64, at least)
[17:00] <hggdh> s/adm/amd/
[17:01] <ubotu> New bug: #195111 in gnuplot (universe) "gnuplot is not GNU and not free Software" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/195111
[17:01] <james_w> there's has-alarms-in-range? in the backtrace, it may just be spending too much time trying to work out whether to activate an alarm.
[17:02] <secretlondon> I've just added another one - this also has alarms in range in
[17:02] <james_w> though as it's about the only readable part of the backtrace it may be a red herring.
[17:03] <hggdh> it may, it may be not... the problem is that some of the previous stacktraces do not match this one (and others do)
[17:03] <james_w> it's probably the sort of bug where multiple issues can be wrapped in to one, so that may not be surprising.
[17:04] <james_w> Also, checking for alarms is the sort of thing you would expect to find in backtraces a reasonable amount of time, as it will be done regularly.
[17:05] <hggdh> the single one I had did not have any of them
[17:05] <hggdh> OTH, this may be a loop at a higher level
[17:06] <ubotu> New bug: #195110 in ubuntu "icons messed up" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/195110
[17:06] <ubotu> New bug: #195112 in compiz (main) "Fullscreen windows don't fit to the workspace" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/195112
[17:06] <hggdh> and thread 2 seems to be the single one running
[17:07] <hggdh> secretlondon: if you get a new X crash, do you have the time to get into the console, and see if e-d-s is eating up CPU (without logging into X again)?
[17:08] <secretlondon> i tried to do alt F1 and nothing
[17:08] <hggdh> you got no console?
[17:08] <secretlondon> no response
[17:08] <hggdh> ctrl-alt-f1?
[17:09] <secretlondon> ah - didn't try that sorry
[17:09] <secretlondon> will do next time
[17:10] <hggdh> :-) no need to apologise... at least we know we have another chance
[17:11] <secretlondon> all the evo plugins are too old
[17:11] <secretlondon> debug wise
[17:11] <ubotu> New bug: #193889 in awn-extras "Terminal Applet crashes on pressing Ctrl+Alt+T or Ctrl+Alt+N" [Low,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/193889
[17:11] <ubotu> New bug: #195113 in gscan2pdf (universe) "error message saving image although image saved correctly" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/195113
[17:11] <ubotu> New bug: #195114 in fast-user-switch-applet (main) "Hardy Alpha5: fast-user-switch gives a big void, white screen." [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/195114
[17:11] <ubotu> New bug: #195115 in bluez-gnome (main) "Update to latest version 0.23" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/195115
[17:11] <ubotu> New bug: #195116 in gvfs (main) "gvfs: file transfers from remote server fail " [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/195116
[17:11] <hggdh> ?? my evolution-plugins are at current level
[17:11] <hggdh> and so is the dbgsym and dbg
[17:12] <hggdh> what I find weird on you bt is that gdb states it loaded glib symbols, but does not resolve them
[17:13] <hggdh> well, anyway, this seems related to e-d-s alone, not evo or evo-plugins. I think -- except for the webcal.
[17:13] <secretlondon> installed evo-plugs 2.21.91 evo-plugins-dbgsym 2.12.0
[17:14] <hggdh> mine are both 2.21.91
[17:14] <hggdh> even in the repos
[17:14] <secretlondon> hmm. I'll try removing from sources.list and readding
[17:16] <ubotu> New bug: #194125 in network-manager (main) "networkmanager in ubuntu 7.10 in wired internet connection does not grant full Inet access" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/194125
[17:16] <ubotu> New bug: #195117 in ubuntu "cdrom mounted not at /media/cdrom0" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/195117
[17:17] <secretlondon> # Line commented out by installer because it failed to verify: against the`dbgsym repos
[17:18] <hggdh> ah, there is hope, then
[17:19] <hggdh> also, you are the first I hear that can pretty much reproduce it at will (sort of, of course)
[17:20] <hggdh> and I think the dbgsyms are signed by pitti, and his key is not in the base dist
[17:20] <pochu> secretlondon: http://ddebs.ubuntu.com/pool/main/e/evolution-data-server/evolution-data-server-dbgsym_2.21.91-0ubuntu1_i386.ddeb
[17:21] <secretlondon> for eds itself I have a dbg
[17:21] <pochu> if you can't get apt working, you can download manually from the web
[17:21] <pochu> ah
[17:21] <secretlondon> yep
[17:21] <pochu> well, that will work for other packages too :)
[17:21] <hggdh> :-)
[17:23] <secretlondon> i think the prob was that my sources.list was a mess
[17:25] <ubotu> New bug: #195118 in gnome-power-manager (main) "Battery stays at 100% when discharging" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/195118
[17:26] <secretlondon> once i've got more debug versions i'll reboot and try again
[17:26] <hggdh> I will have to disconnect in at most 40 min -- just arrived in Paris this morning, and I could not sleep in the flight... so I am pretty much fried... I am getting to the point I will hit the keyboard with my head ;-)
[17:27] <secretlondon> no prob
[17:27] <secretlondon> i'll add to the bug whatever i get anyway :)
[17:27]  * secretlondon is supposed to be going out this evening anyway
[17:27] <hggdh> thanks, secretlondon. I really appreciate it
[17:27] <secretlondon> no problem
[17:27]  * hggdh is starting to drool on the keyboard
[17:27] <Nafallo> ugh
[17:28] <Nafallo> £14.99 for a damn pizza
[17:28] <hggdh> welcome to GB...
[17:28] <secretlondon> you can 2 for less than that on a weekday
[17:28] <secretlondon> £9 for 2 * any size here mon -> thurs
[17:29] <hggdh> go to the US, and you get one for $10. It will suck, but it is still cheap
[17:29] <Nafallo> baah
[17:29] <Nafallo> I was friends with my pizzeria in Sweden :-P
[17:30] <secretlondon> we have a chicken shop here that does 10" pizza for £1.50 put its a bit random and they often don't have any toppings
[17:30] <Nafallo> got pizzas that took three days to eat for about half the English price.
[17:30] <ubotu> New bug: #195119 in gdm (main) "[hardy]GDM segfaults after settings are changed in Language Support" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/195119
[17:30] <ubotu> New bug: #195121 in ubiquity (main) "software-properties-gtk is not installed on Hardy Alpha 5" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/195121
[17:30] <secretlondon> pizza is good in the fridge the day after, certainly
[17:30] <Nafallo> two days after actually
[17:31]  * hggdh feels slightly nauseated
[17:31] <secretlondon> sure :)
[17:31]  * secretlondon stops taling about food
[17:35] <ubotu> New bug: #195122 in ubuntu "Compiz Scale: Windows not reachable after scaled view" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/195122
[17:35] <ubotu> New bug: #195123 in libao (main) "Man page incorrectly documents 'default_driver' libao.conf option key" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/195123
[17:37] <afflux> someone's complaining about default settings of conky (running as standalone window, not as a widget in the desktop-window): bug 195022 . Should the defaults be changed or should it be marked as wontfix? (I marked it as invalid before, as the reporter wasn't aware of that this behavior is configurable)
[17:37] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 195022 in conky "Conky runs in a black window on Hardy" [Undecided,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/195022
[17:38] <secretlondon> wishlist?
[17:39] <afflux> secretlondon: not sure, as I'm running conky in a standalone window on purpose
[17:39] <afflux> and I think some others might do this as well
[17:39] <Nafallo> secretlondon: sure. I want pizza. when will you pop by?
[17:39] <afflux> No matter what we'll do, one party will complain, I think.
[17:39] <Nafallo> oh
[17:39] <Nafallo> bugs
[17:40] <hggdh> g'night all, I will hit the shower and then the bed (in that order)
[17:40] <secretlondon> night
[17:40] <ubotu> New bug: #195124 in kdebase-workspace (universe) ""Switch user" from K menu starts krunner" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/195124
[17:40] <ubotu> New bug: #195125 in gcalctool (main) "accessability enhancement: 5 min fix?" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/195125
[17:45] <ubotu> New bug: #194537 in linux (main) "GNOME automatic login freezes" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/194537
[17:47] <walter> newbie having trouble figuring out if apport crashes are duplicates (should I just go away or file new bug or ???)
[17:49] <secretlondon> it doesn't hurt to file a new bug
[17:50]  * secretlondon notes that the eds bug comes back once she closed gdb.
[17:50] <ubotu> New bug: #195129 in evolution (main) "SIGSEGV while using calendar, e_cal_menu_target_new_select " [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/195129
[17:50] <ubotu> New bug: #195130 in laptop-mode-tools (main) "laptop_mode tries to check file on /proc which doesn't exist" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/195130
[17:50] <ubotu> New bug: #195131 in ubuntu "'E:Type 'wget' is not known on line 50 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list, E:The list of sources could not be read.'" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/195131
[17:51] <walter> Is there a way to attach a crash report to a similar bug (for more info) or it it just as useful to file a new bug and get it triaged as duplicate?
[17:52] <ubotu> New bug: #193842 in acpi-support (main) "Please sponsor cherrypicked fixes for acpi-support into Hardy" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/193842
[17:52] <secretlondon> not from apport - it will not attach your info if you don
[17:52] <secretlondon> 't create a new bug
[17:52] <james_w> secretlondon: were you attaching to the running eds process?
[17:52] <secretlondon> yes
[17:56] <ubotu> New bug: #194913 in sun-java5 (multiverse) "download impossible look at the information" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/194913
[17:56] <ubotu> New bug: #195132 in pidgin (main) "font color changes after pasting text" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/195132
[17:57] <secretlondon> unksi: you just beat me too it! they'll have added something random to sources.list (prob from the forums)
[17:57] <Unksi> yea, looks like that :)
[17:57] <Unksi> the report cant get much more vague than that :/
[17:57] <james_w> secretlondon: in that case it probably pauses execution of eds, which is why the problem appears to go away.
[17:59] <secretlondon> james_w ah thanks
[18:00] <james_w> secretlondon: so, just leave gdb running and all of your problems are solved :)
[18:00] <secretlondon> :)
[18:01] <ubotu> New bug: #194650 in linux (main) "computer locks up using rt61pci" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/194650
[18:02] <walter> OK, thanks! One other question. If I'm fairly sure my crash is a dupe (from browsing some of the choices) it there a way to "vote" to add weight to an existing bug (e.g. lots of folks are hitting this) without irritating everyone or wasting server space on an new bug? I guess I'm wondering if the upload process increments a count based on parsing my uploaded crash even if I don't file a bug...
[18:02] <walter> ...or attach it to an existing bug. Well, actually a couple of Q's :-)
[18:03] <james_w> walter: you can confirm the existing bug report if it is the same as what you are seeing, and also provide any information you have.
[18:04] <james_w> however a "me too" to a report that already has loads of those is not useful.
[18:05] <ubotu> New bug: #195135 in gcc-4.2 (main) "Package request - AMD Optimized compilers." [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/195135
[18:06] <ubotu> New bug: #194561 in linux (main) "Only 1 of 4 CPUs show after installing some packages" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/194561
[18:06] <secretlondon> urgh torrential rain. I'm supposed to be going to the pembury later
[18:10] <ubotu> New bug: #195126 in pidgin (main) "pidgin crashed with SIGSEGV in sqlite3_vmprintf()" [Medium,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/195126
[18:10] <ubotu> New bug: #195136 in ubuntu "No wireless for Intel 3945 in Hardy" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/195136
[18:10] <ubotu> New bug: #195137 in claws-mail-extra-plugins (universe) "[hardy] claws-mail feeds-reader (RSSylp) fails to load" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/195137
[18:11] <walter> Thanks all. I've figured out how to tar and attach crash files, so moving forward if it looks like something new I'll file a new bug (no brainer), if I have more info I'll add comments to an existing, and if the original was for a different CPU / etc. I'll go ahead and attach my crash manually. If it already has plenty of "me too"s I'll just [optionally] subscribe and go on my way :-)
[18:13] <secretlondon> :)
[18:14] <james_w> walter: sounds perfect to me.
[18:15] <ubotu> New bug: #194915 in stardict (universe) "Stardict's scan not compatible with Firefox 3 Beta 3" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/194915
[18:20] <ubotu> New bug: #195138 in meta-gnome2 (universe) "Screen reslution can not be set" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/195138
[18:20] <ubotu> New bug: #195139 in ubuntu "MSI P6NGM-L Chipset NVIDIA GeForce 7050 /nForce 610i unsupported" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/195139
[18:22]  * secretlondon has just had a "Please fix my bug now!!!" comment..
[18:24] <Unksi> :D
[18:24] <secretlondon> ubuntu weekly news has misspelt intrepid several times..
[18:25] <secretlondon> i expect interpid will be common
[18:25] <Nafallo> hehehehe
[18:25] <Unksi> :D
[18:25] <Unksi> that will probably be a hard word for most people
[18:26] <Unksi> like my nick is, usually people spell it as unski, wonder why..
[18:26] <Unksi> must have something to do with me being finn or something
[18:27] <secretlondon> no - ski is like a typical russian ending
[18:27] <Unksi> ok
[18:30] <pochu> [18:30] <pochu> that's funny :)
[18:31] <secretlondon> :)
[18:36] <ubotu> New bug: #195140 in avahi (main) "SetHostName can be called by users" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/195140
[18:46] <ubotu> New bug: #194662 in linux (main) "iwl3945 in 2.6.24-8 spams syslog" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/194662
[18:51] <ubotu> New bug: #194763 in gcalctool (main) "[French and English] use the additional capabilities of the extended views also in the basic view" [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/194763
[18:51] <ubotu> New bug: #195143 in ubuntu "After update to Hardy Heron Alpha 5 leftclicks count as doubleclicks" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/195143
[18:51] <ubotu> New bug: #195144 in ocamlcreal (universe) "ocamlcreal_0.7-4 FTBFS on amd64" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/195144
[18:56] <ubotu> New bug: #194830 in kubuntu-meta (main) "usb stick not displayed anymore" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/194830
[18:56] <ubotu> New bug: #195146 in avant-window-navigator (universe) "awn-manager.svg missing" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/195146
[19:00] <ubotu> New bug: #195148 in pidgin (main) "status does not update appropriately" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/195148
[19:01] <ubotu> New bug: #195145 in wammu (universe) "sony ericsson w810i no names" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/195145
[19:01] <ubotu> New bug: #195147 in linux-source-2.6.22 "Host Protected Area detected by default" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/195147
[19:05] <ubotu> New bug: #195149 in yelp (main) "amsn e-mail not open" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/195149
[19:06] <ubotu> New bug: #195150 in yelp (main) "Some nroff macros are not recognised by yelp" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/195150
[19:10] <ubotu> New bug: #194633 in ubuntu-dev-tools (universe) "pbuilder-dist requires arch argument" [Low,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/194633
[19:10] <ubotu> New bug: #194634 in ubuntu-dev-tools (universe) "ppaput incorectly asserts it's part of the MOTU sponsorship process in the code and in the man page" [Wishlist,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/194634
[19:10] <ubotu> New bug: #194635 in ubuntu-dev-tools (universe) "Please remove process-interdiff from ubuntu-dev-tools" [Wishlist,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/194635
[19:10] <ubotu> New bug: #194704 in ubuntu-dev-tools (universe) "404main doesn't work" [Low,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/194704
[19:10] <ubotu> New bug: #195153 in yelp (main) "Yelp take a lot of ressource" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/195153
[19:11] <ubotu> New bug: #194618 in ubuntu-dev-tools (universe) "grab-revu script is empty." [Wishlist,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/194618
[19:11] <ubotu> New bug: #194619 in ubuntu-dev-tools (universe) "AUTHORS file is executable" [Wishlist,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/194619
[19:11] <ubotu> New bug: #194621 in ubuntu-dev-tools (universe) "checkrdepends should not do per binary arch checks by default" [Wishlist,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/194621
[19:15] <ubotu> New bug: #195154 in ubuntu "[needs-sync] puredata" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/195154
[19:19]  * pochu loves new bugs being fixed :)
[19:26] <ubotu> New bug: #194848 in ubiquity (main) "hardy alpha 5 closes session after choose keyboard" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/194848
[19:26] <ubotu> New bug: #195155 in linux-source-2.6.22 "iwl4965 reports Microcode SW error" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/195155
[19:36] <ubotu> New bug: #195158 in ubuntu "Please package flickrapi for ubuntu" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/195158
[19:40] <ubotu> New bug: #195159 in ubiquity (main) "The new time zone / city choosing is annoying" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/195159
[20:06] <ubotu> New bug: #195163 in ubuntu "hardy alpha 5 live - autocompletion for command arguments in gnome terminal is not working" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/195163
[20:06] <ubotu> New bug: #195164 in rhythmbox (main) "Music menu is empty" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/195164
[20:06] <ubotu> New bug: #195165 in epiphany-browser (main) "Java applets do not work" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/195165
[20:06] <ubotu> New bug: #195166 in qemu (universe) "qemu v0.9.1  - Minix hangs on kernel load" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/195166
[20:06] <ubotu> New bug: #195167 in scite (universe) "SciTE needs repackaging" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/195167
[20:06] <ubotu> New bug: #195168 in thunderbird (main) "Keeps crashing since upgrade to Hardy Heron." [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/195168
[20:11] <ubotu> New bug: #195169 in ubuntu "gtk window borders turn gray and disappear with focus " [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/195169
[20:16] <ubotu> New bug: #195170 in nspluginwrapper (multiverse) "npviewer.bin crashed with SIGSEGV in g_slice_free_chain_with_offset()" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/195170
[20:20] <ubotu> New bug: #195173 in epiphany-browser (main) "page source doesn't work anymore" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/195173
[20:21] <ubotu> New bug: #195171 in drivel (universe) "Drivel Shift Tab not recognized in the text box" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/195171
[20:21] <ubotu> New bug: #195172 in ubuntu "Theme not fully loaded on hardy alpha4 live CD" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/195172
[20:36] <ubotu> New bug: #194171 in nautilus (main) "[hardy] nautilus crashes during move when you close last nautilus window" [Undecided,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/194171
[20:37] <ubotu> New bug: #195096 in exaile "Exaile close when try to obtain information of a songs (dup-of: 123409)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/195096
[20:37] <ubotu> New bug: #195174 in openoffice.org (main) "Autofilter in calc scans a maximum of 255 rows" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/195174
[20:39] <secretlondon> i've got a bug that it seems can only be fixed by a lib being promoted to main
[20:39] <secretlondon> how do I go about suggesting that?
[20:40] <ubotu> New bug: #195177 in qlandkarte (universe) "FFe & sync qlandkarte 0.7.1~dfsg.1-1 from debian unstable" [Wishlist,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/195177
[20:45] <persia> secretlondon: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MainInclusionProcess is one way to do it, but there are a couple libraries that just aren't considered ready for main, in which case the bugs can't be fixed easily or soon.
[20:46] <secretlondon> persia: thanks
[20:49] <secretlondon> it sounds like it needs to be started by developers as I can't post to - devel
[20:49] <secretlondon> the library concerned is sdl-pango, and the program that needs it is in edubuntu - bug #184224
[20:49] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 184224 in tuxtype "FTBFS in latest archive rebuild test" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/184224
[20:53] <persia> secretlondon: That sounds like something does need to be moved between components (either sdl-pango or tuxtype).  If you're up for drafting the MIR, sending an email to the edubuntu team would likely get you a developer willing to post to -devel.  If not, you can at least indicate the bug is triaged, as the cause and two possible solutions are known.
[20:54] <secretlondon> persia: I know that the current upstream version of tuxpaint (also in main) depends on sdl-pango too (although it can be built without it)
[20:55] <persia> secretlondon: Is that currently disabled in the build, or is tuxpaint FTBFS as well?  It may be that there was a transition for the library: sometimes when the library binary package name changes, it needs a new push to main.
[20:56] <ubotu> New bug: #195179 in mscore (universe) "Please update mscore to 0.9.1d+dfsg-0ubuntu2 (debdiff attached)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/195179
[20:56] <ubotu> New bug: #195182 in pidgin (main) "pidgin buddy list would not appear even though the application showed me connected and available" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/195182
[20:56] <ubotu> New bug: #195183 in evince (main) "[hardy] severe memory leak opening PDF" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/195183
[20:56] <secretlondon> tuxpaint is currently on an earlier version as the dd went awol for a bit
[20:57] <ubotu> New bug: #194535 in mono-addins (main) "FTBFS in latest archive rebuild test" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/194535
[20:57] <ubotu> New bug: #195180 in nautilus (main) "user-mountable (nfs) filesystems are not showing up in Computer view of nautilus" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/195180
[20:57] <ubotu> New bug: #195184 in firefox-3.0 (main) "Firefox 3.0 doesn't keep page layout when writing a page to drive" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/195184
[20:57] <secretlondon> debian doesn't have the version that requires sdl-pango
[20:57] <pochu> Hmm, ubotu is back
[20:58] <pochu> I liked how was the channel yesterday, so although I didn't like the idea of moving ubotu announcements to a different channel in the past, I support it now :)
[21:00] <persia> pochu: It is admittedly annoying to have to watch two channels, but it helps conversation.
[21:01] <secretlondon> was the bot actually on a different channel yesterday or was it just broken?
[21:01] <persia> secretlondon: Aha.  A new library in a new upstream is exactly the sort of thing that generally needs an MIR.  Good catch.
[21:01] <ubotu> New bug: #195186 in gimp (main) "Gimp Crashes when Cheese steals webcam" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/195186
[21:01] <pochu> persia: to be honest I wouldn't join the new channel :P
[21:02] <secretlondon> pochu: the bugs don't go away ;)
[21:03] <persia> pochu: Makes sense.  I'd probably only troll there when bored and looking for new things to triage.
[21:04] <secretlondon> you get a good feel of stuff when reading them though - and some are very easy to work on
[21:04] <pochu> persia: I could also /ignore ubotu on this channel, but I think the moving wouldn't only benefit me :)
[21:04] <pochu> I already get too many bugs in my mail
[21:06] <pochu> I was about to remove the autojoin on this channel the other day (I removed 5 channels). After yesterday and this evening conversations, I think this channel would be really useful if ubotu was killed ;)
[21:07]  * Nafallo tickles pochu
[21:07] <persia> secretlondon: True.  I agree there is value of seeing the bugs, I just find that the bugsquad isn't so talkative and friendly since ubotu started to talk so much, and find myself no longer as motivated to swap back whenever anyone says anything, because it might just be new bugs.
[21:07] <secretlondon> true
[21:10] <ubotu> New bug: #195191 in gvfs (main) "gvfsd-sftp crashed with SIGSEGV in g_data_input_stream_read_line() (dup-of: 187200)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/195191
[21:10]  * pochu kicks ubotu
[21:11]  * pochu hits send button
[21:12] <pochu> hey Nafallo :)
[21:12] <pochu> Nafallo: do you want to do next liboobs update? :P
[21:13] <Nafallo> pochu: naah. I'll just take the boobs :-)
[21:13] <secretlondon> tut tut
[21:14] <Nafallo> li... is that some kind of mix between le and la?
[21:14] <pochu> Nafallo: last release was funny: "Changes since last release - 0"
[21:14] <Nafallo> haha
[21:14] <Nafallo> why?
[21:15] <secretlondon> think its a gender neutral version so it can refer to man boobs too
[21:15] <pochu> to release a tarball for the 2.21.91 GNOME release :)
[21:15] <Nafallo> la boobs then ;-)
[21:15] <pochu> which isn't really needed, it was just to say "hey I'm here!"
[21:15] <persia> Ummm   "oobs" is the active part of the name...
[21:16] <Nafallo> ooh persia :-)
[21:16] <secretlondon> they blatantly chose the name to spell boobs though
[21:16] <secretlondon> even if it is lib-oobs
[21:20] <ubotu> New bug: #195195 in ubuntu "update-manager crash on start" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/195195
[21:23] <secretlondon> arggh. i hate having to reply to all to reply to a mailing list
[21:25] <ubotu> New bug: #194616 in brasero (main) "Backport Brasero 0.7.1 to Gutsy" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/194616
[21:25] <ubotu> New bug: #195196 in graphmonkey (universe) "graphmonkey: Upgrade to new upstream release (1.7)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/195196
[21:31] <ubotu> New bug: #195197 in ubuntu "bug KDE plugin Adobe flash 9 in Konqueror" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/195197
[21:33] <pochu> secretlondon++
[21:33] <pochu> and then wondering if the people in To and CC are subscribed to the list...
[21:34]  * persia assumes anyone not subscribed to the list will check the public archives for responses
[21:36]  * pochu then removes persia from the mail he's writing ;)
[21:36] <ubotu> New bug: #195199 in system-config-printer-kde (main) "Printer is not detected and configured" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/195199
[21:36] <ubotu> New bug: #195200 in openoffice.org2 "OpenOffice 2.3 freezes when Macro-function needs JRE" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/195200
[21:36] <secretlondon> 195200 is a dupe
[21:41] <ubotu> New bug: #195202 in gvfs (main) "Can't access to floppy disk" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/195202
[21:41] <ubotu> New bug: #195203 in titantools (universe) "runas segfault" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/195203
[21:46] <ubotu> New bug: #195205 in povray (multiverse) "povray-examples" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/195205
[21:48] <nixternal> w00t, bug announcements are back!
[21:50] <secretlondon> nixternal: but for how long?
[21:51] <ubotu> New bug: #195206 in gweled (universe) "[feature request]pausing game and possibility to turn off sound" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/195206
[21:51] <ubotu> New bug: #195207 in nautilus (main) "Nautilus is following symbolic links when emptying trash again" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/195207
[21:55] <ubotu> New bug: #195208 in rhythmbox (main) "rythmbox doesn't work for iPod touch" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/195208
[21:56] <ubotu> New bug: #194052 in gnome-power-manager (main) "gpm does not create the correct profiling files" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/194052
[22:10] <ubotu> New bug: #193820 in rhythmbox (main) "rhythmbox-client crashed with signal 5" [Medium,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/193820
[22:10] <ubotu> New bug: #195212 in linux (main) "Hardy doesn't have kernel transitional packages from Dapper" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/195212
[22:10] <ubotu> New bug: #195213 in ubuntu "[Hardy] "waiting root file system" with 2.6.24-8-generic" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/195213
[22:15] <ubotu> New bug: #195216 in ubuntu "Permission troubles copying file to NTFS" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/195216
[22:20] <ubotu> New bug: #195218 in ubuntu "IBM X31 hangs in "loading hardware driver" with Hardy" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/195218
[22:25] <ubotu> New bug: #194090 in linux-restricted-modules-2.6.24 (restricted) "fglrx restricted driver doesn't work on hardy" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/194090
[22:25] <ubotu> New bug: #195219 in ubuntu "Graph intel 855 does not work " [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/195219
[22:30] <ubotu> New bug: #194360 in usplash (main) "Usplash makes boot too slow (dup-of: 61711)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/194360
[22:30] <ubotu> New bug: #195221 in ubuntu "Wrong UDMA mode due to error in 40/80 wire cable detection" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/195221
[22:36] <ubotu> New bug: #195223 in ubuntu "Power Manager Applet giving incorrect information" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/195223
[22:58] <ubotu> New bug: #195228 in totem (main) "[hardy alpha 5] Totem YouTube browser can't be activated" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/195228
[22:58] <ubotu> New bug: #195229 in emerald (universe) "emerald crashed with SIGSEGV in main_arena()" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/195229
[22:58] <ubotu> New bug: #195230 in gnome-utils (main) "gnome-screenshot does not remember user settings" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/195230
[23:00] <ubotu> New bug: #195234 in ubuntu "gobuntu hardy rescue disk can't load kernel modules" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/195234
[23:00] <ubotu> New bug: #195235 in gnomebaker (universe) "Gnome Baker does not remember Disk Meta info if write failed" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/195235
[23:02] <secretlondon> I've started the main inclusion report for sdlpango, and linked it to the bug. I'm not sure how much further I can go with it tbh
[23:10] <ubotu> New bug: #195237 in totem-pl-parser (main) "Please sponsor totem-pl-parser 2.21.92 (main) into Hardy" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/195237
[23:10] <ubotu> New bug: #195238 in firefox-3.0 (main) "Firefox 3.3 renders websites very poorly" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/195238
[23:10] <ubotu> New bug: #195239 in gnomebaker (universe) "Gnome baker project name should be drive label" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/195239
[23:10] <ubotu> New bug: #195240 in ubuntu "therm_adt746x kernel module is not auto loaded" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/195240
[23:11] <secretlondon> good night
[23:26] <ubotu> New bug: #195243 in gnomebaker (universe) "gnome baker adds user's name to disk meta data without asking" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/195243
[23:31] <ubotu> New bug: #195242 in ubuntu "[needs packaging] Gwyddion" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/195242
[23:36] <ubotu> New bug: #195246 in hal (main) "USB subsytem broken" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/195246
[23:41] <ubotu> New bug: #195247 in wine (universe) "[needs-packaging] wine 0.9.56" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/195247
[23:55] <ubotu> New bug: #194536 in monodoc (main) "FTBFS in latest archive rebuild test" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/194536
[23:55] <ubotu> New bug: #195249 in python-setuptools (main) "upgrade to setuptools 0.6c8/0.6final" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/195249


[00:10] <bryce> erf, up to 1600 bugs
[00:52] <ubotu> New bug: #222229 in linux-restricted-modules-2.6.24 (restricted) "Firefox causes Kernel bug and crash" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/222229
[00:53] <ubotu> New bug: #222205 in xserver-xorg-video-ati (main) "Can't see video output with default ATI drivers in hardy" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/222205
[00:55] <ubotu> New bug: #222178 in linux-restricted-modules-2.6.24 (restricted) "Hdmi audio and nvidia" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/222178
[00:56] <ubotu> New bug: #222179 in xserver-xorg-video-intel (main) "Computer hard-locks if video overlay is used with compiz" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/222179
[01:21] <ubotu> New bug: #215870 in rdesktop (main) "layout switching works ina funny way (dup-of: 196277)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/215870
[02:47] <ubotu> New bug: #152007 in compiz (main) "compiz fusion blur effects cannot be turned on (dup-of: 201264)" [Low,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/152007
[05:06] <ubotu> New bug: #211071 in compiz (main) "Window shadows don't show up; blur doesn't work (dup-of: 186382)" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/211071
[06:31] <ubotu> New bug: #219808 in linux-restricted-modules-2.6.24 (main) "[Hardy] [Compiz] Using "Group and Tab Windows" with more than one group causes hangs/freezes" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/219808
[10:31] <ubotu> New bug: #221095 in ubuntu "secondary keyboard layout in gnome is wrong alt gr (dup-of: 196277)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/221095
[11:11] <ubotu> New bug: #222444 in linux-restricted-modules-2.6.24 (restricted) "Login screen has wrong resolution" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/222444
[11:25] <ubotu> New bug: #222449 in linux-restricted-modules-2.6.24 (restricted) "Radeon HD3870 / fglrx multiple problems" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/222449
[19:55] <ubotu> New bug: #222691 in xserver-xorg-video-ati (main) "Xpress 200, 3d programs unstable" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/222691
[20:10] <ubotu> New bug: #222701 in xorg (main) "package xserver-xorg 1:7.3+10ubuntu10 failed to install/upgrade: " [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/222701
[20:31] <ubotu> New bug: #222407 in ubuntu "Nvidia driver does not work properly in hardy (dup-of: 219639)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/222407
[20:50] <ubotu> New bug: #222213 in linux-restricted-modules-2.6.24 (restricted) "gnome-system-monitor crashes when wifi (fwlanusb) statistics are queried" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/222213
[21:06] <ubotu> New bug: #222188 in linux-restricted-modules-2.6.24 (main) "Xorg crashes using firefox" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/222188
[21:48] <ubotu> New bug: #214881 in epiphany-browser (main) "When going to ubuntuguide.org with epiphany the desktop crashes (dup-of: 212648)" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/214881
[22:15] <ubotu> New bug: #85202 in xserver-xorg-input-mouse (main) "cant scroll ore use the side buttons (ms intelli mouse) in kernel 2.6.20-8" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/85202
[23:30] <ubotu> New bug: #222787 in xserver-xorg-video-ati (main) "xserver-xorg-video-ati doesnt work with radeon 8500 in Hardy (either)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/222787
[23:44] <ubotu> New bug: #222724 in nvidia-settings (universe) "login screen resets nvidia color settings" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/222724


[10:28] <brobostigon> good morning everyone,
[10:50] <Azelphur> http://pastebin.com/WYNd4JMn take it it's time for this hard drive to meet with the bin?
[10:54] <MartijnV1S> Azelphur: looks a lot like it
[10:56] <Azelphur> lol fairly conclusive, started up a live usb and it doesn't even show up in gparted
[10:56] <Azelphur> it broke.
[11:24] <Azelphur> what does ubuntu use for the boot splash animation now?
[11:24] <knightwise> hey everyone
[12:57] <daftykins> Azelphur: breaking hardware now D:
[12:57] <daftykins> well, more
[12:57] <Azelphur> daftykins: fixing, turns out it was a busted cable
[12:57] <Azelphur> :D
[12:57] <daftykins> ah neat-o
[12:58] <daftykins> what's worse is when you know a drive is funky, but you can't get the manufacturer diagnostics tools to admit it
[12:59] <Azelphur> hehe
[13:00] <daftykins> i've got an OSX mountain lion VM now :O
[13:06] <brobostigon> whats the freenode ban command ?
[13:06] <daftykins>  /q ?
[13:06] <daftykins> oh no that's mode
[13:06] <daftykins> never done any admin'ing on freenode ;x
[13:07] <brobostigon> ok.
[13:08] <brobostigon> i did as it suggested on http://freenode.net/using_the_network.shtml i e, set +b mode, and it didnt work.
[13:08] <daftykins> are you opered up?
[13:09] <brobostigon> yes.
[13:11] <daftykins> hrmm unless the ban mask isn't applying
[13:11] <daftykins> if it isn't just a nick
[13:41] <bootkigftrgds> Heads up .. this is one for @czajkowski [ http://goo.gl/k8Zlm ] .. ends in 40 minutes ::: LAAANDON [Free Postage - the fools !!]  ::: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/300845859363?ssPageName=STRK:MEBIDX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1431.l2649&autorefresh=true
[13:47] <dwatkins> in the description it says 'pick up only'
[13:48] <dwatkins> "only two corners thst make up the first picture are remaining"
[13:49] <bootkigftrgds> dwatkins: That is a dirisory comment, by you dwatkins :: Anyone can 'pick up' a Sofa .. It's who pays for the collectin .. And this is 50% of the battle as Ebay would infer it would be at the cost of the ebay Marketeer ..
[13:49] <dwatkins> maybe
[13:50] <bootkigftrgds> It's legit, I sear..
[13:50] <dwatkins> you'd need to arrange a courier
[13:50] <bootkigftrgds> Done !
[13:50] <dwatkins> the description does say it quite clearly, but I see your point, it'll be interesting to see what happens
[13:51] <bootkigftrgds> El bill i being printed by www.NORspeed.com as we speak ..
[13:51] <bootkigftrgds> **....is being...
[13:52] <bootkigftrgds> Also on ebay.eu ... http://goo.gl/0MfL4
[13:54] <bootkigftrgds> Anyay, I'll back off this channel for a couple of hours .. as aspie does take over with moore planning...
[13:54] <bootkigftrgds> **Anyway..
[13:55] <bootkigftrgds> #join wrongplanet
[14:00] <DJones> brobostigon: Are you ok for a pm?
[14:00] <brobostigon> DJones: yes,
[14:00] <DJones> ok
[15:31] <Laney> meow
[15:55] <brobostigon> it is preferable isnt it, to setup your wifi channel, to one, that is as far away as possible, from any around it? yes.
[16:51] <shauno> brobostigon: big time, yeah.  wifi channels overlap a lot, so you don't just want to be on a different channel, but preferable 4-5 channels away from your closest neighbours
[16:51] <ali1234> and it's better to be on the same channel than off by one
[16:52] <brobostigon> shauno: everything is used, except for some space between channel 8 and 9 and 3 and 4.
[16:54] <shauno> that's pretty normal.  the trick is to figure out who's using them.  I Worry more about coliding with my neighbour upstairs, than the offices across the road.  I can drown out weak neighbours
[16:55] <brobostigon> ours is set to channel 6 and is atleast between 2 to three time as powerful as anything around here.
[16:56] <brobostigon> times*
[16:56] <shauno> the other fun one is to make sure your wifi is set to UK, because a lot are set to US out of the box, so won't have channels 12 & 13
[16:56] <brobostigon> it has 12 and 13.
[17:04] <ali1234> a lot of hardware won't allow you to use 12 and 13 under linux
[17:06] <shauno> didn't know that.  but then I don't use linux on mobile devices
[17:07] <ali1234> not mobile devices.
[17:07] <ali1234> laptops
[17:07] <brobostigon> interesting,
[17:07] <ali1234> it can also be caused by the AP
[17:08] <ali1234> because CRDA will only allow the set of channels allowed by every device involved
[17:08] <ali1234> the AP broadcasts it's idea of what country it is in in the beacons
[17:08] <ali1234> if it broadcasts "hello i'm in china" on channel 13, linux will attempt to connect and then fail over and over
[17:09] <ali1234> and it won't give an error message
[17:09] <ali1234> it will put some message on dmesg like "disconnecting by choice"
[17:09] <brobostigon> so as shauno said, inportent to set the country properly.?
[17:09] <ali1234> setting the country doesn't make any different
[17:10] <brobostigon> interesting, hmmm,
[17:10] <ali1234> you can't et the country in your wifi card firmware without special software
[17:10] <ali1234> and you can't set the country code at all on a lot of routers
[17:10] <ali1234> you can, but it doesn't actually affect what the beacon says due to badly designed firmwares
[17:10] <brobostigon> ah.
[17:11] <ali1234> so the router will hapily use channel 13, but your linux machine will refuse to connect to it
[17:11] <ali1234> windows doesn't do nearly as much checks so they work fine
[17:11] <brobostigon> hmmm,
[17:12] <ali1234> basically attempting to use 12 or 13 is a waste of time because it wont work properly on too many devices
[17:12] <ali1234> unless you are lucky and didn't buy any broken hardware
[17:27] <SuperMatt> nice to see the new ubuntu icon has dropped into raring
[17:43] <SuperMatt> anyone else noticed that the raring has been more stable during development than any other of previous releases?
[17:44] <penguin42> SuperMatt: It's been pretty good for me - I know a few people who are having problems getting it to boot
[17:45] <SuperMatt> really? Good job I haven't considered upgrading my work pc
[18:30] <kvarley> Any plans yet to integrate Nautilus with Mega?
[18:32] <penguin42> SuperMatt: I think it's specific hardware, but I know 2 people with very different hardware
[19:17] <andrews> Hey all - does anyone else have problems using Ubuntu and Channel 4's On Demand service?
[19:24] <Darael> andrews: freezing after the last of the ads?
[19:24] <Darael> I was just getting ready to report that it seemed to be working fine from here, too.
[19:25] <bootkigftrgds> dwatkins: Thanks- heaben's Sheffield got it right ... http://goo.gl/JZYPo aall for today, beddie-byes All
[19:27] <andrews> Darael - yes.  Thats indeed the problem!
[19:28] <andrews> Only certain shows though
[19:29] <andrews> Some work, some just go black screen and freeze after the adverts
[19:29] <Darael> Well, no idea what's causing it, but at least it's definitely not just thee.
[19:30] <andrews> Was trying to watch that World Without End and it just freezes after the nokia ads.  Is it some DRM lockout?
[20:05] <popey> Evening!
[20:10] <bootkigftrgds> popey, Aloha [!!]
[20:18] <penguin42> popey: Couldn't you bring some warm weather back with you?
[20:22] <ali1234> hmm... maplin sells on amazon...
[20:22] <ali1234> http://www.amazon.co.uk/V80H-70MAH-MOUNTED-BATTERY-RECHARGEABLE/dp/B005ZS3XAQ/ref=sr_1_3?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1358626896&sr=1-3
[20:25] <ali1234> prices are identical, including delivery... so they are making a loss on that over the website
[20:25] <ali1234> but presumably they get enough extra business to make up for that
[21:44] <Azelphur> popey: broke ubuntu.com, https://help.ubuntu.com/11.04/ubuntu-help/session-fingerprint.html
[21:44]  * Azelphur adds it to the list
[22:38] <Azelphur> https://bugs.launchpad.net/fglrx/+bug/1068661 is making my life fun atm \o/
[22:53] <solarcloud_3scrn> popey, Just to let you know, They're desperate for it ... http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=111002225510&ssPageName=ADME:B:SS:GB:1123
[22:57] <Azelphur> Trying to get Steam running on Ubuntu 12.10, problem is when I install fglrx-updates, or install the latest version of fglrx from the website, Unity doesn't start at all (above bug), any ideas? :(
[23:03] <dwatkins> sadly my ATI/AMD card just died
[23:05] <Azelphur> indeed, this is very frustrating :(
[23:06] <Azelphur> tempting to downgrade to 12.04 to work around it
[23:22] <penguin42> or upgrade to Raring
[23:26] <ali1234> Azelphur: or remove unity


[10:06] <Zombie_Ryushu> I'm trying to help setup a UTM based Apple Silicon VM for a Ubuntu system.
[10:07] <Zombie_Ryushu> But, I installed Rosetta and x86_64 multiarch support
[10:09] <Zombie_Ryushu> Since enabling Multiarch, I've created a situation where I cannot left click in anything KDE.
[11:36] <Zombie_Ryushu>  Does anyone know why Ubuntu would stop registering shift and capslock and always give you lowercase letters
[12:54] <Zombie_Ryushu> Something has happened to KDE plasma, where in, it is not possible to left Click anymore.