[10:12] <Sling> aliasses in /etc/network/interfaces ?
[10:12] <Ben64> what do you mean boot-proof
[10:13] <Sling> actually I mean them being applied and removed on ifup and ifdown
[10:13] <vnc786> Deepfriedice: do you want me to delete from cache dir or archive dir
[10:14] <Deepfriedice> vnc786, Not sure what you mean.
[10:14] <Deepfriedice> I just figured getting rid of all the old crap would make finding the problem easier.
[10:14] <Sling> i see I can also use IPADDR_START and IPADDR_END for sequences
[10:16] <xeorex> Hi, I am having difficulties with a new user I created. The command line style is very different than the one for the default ubuntu user. Up and Tab are not working. How can I make the new user user command line with the same style than the default ubuntu user? I don't know how to search this on Google. The results are not I am looking for.
[10:16] <vnc786> should i rename cache dir ? because i have already tried with archive dir but that didnt help in oldarchive dir i can see list of packages
[10:19] <Deepfriedice> vnc786, "sudo rm -Rf /var/cache/apt/", but I'm not sure if it will help.
[10:19] <ezra-s> xeorex, do a cat /etc/passwd make sure the user is using the shell you are expecting, that is /bin/bash under ubuntu
[10:20] <Deepfriedice> vnc786, Hang on.
[10:21] <Deepfriedice> vnc786, Don't do that.
[10:21] <ezra-s> vnc786, /var/cache/apt/archives is where previously downloaded packages reside so if you need to "re-install" they don't have to be downloaded again, why do you want to remove that?
[10:21] <ActionParsnip> tried my fixpackage script :)
[10:22] <xeorex> ezra-s, thanks a lot. Sport on.
[10:22] <xeorex> Spot on, even
[10:22] <ezra-s> hehe
[10:22] <ezra-s> I'll try doing some running tonight, thank you :D
[10:24] <vnc786> ezra-s: because i am trying to solve this http://pastebin.com/q1wHn7hT for couple of months and now for last 1/2 hour Deepfriedice wizrd  is helping me on that
[10:24] <ezra-s> let me check see if I can help
[10:25] <Deepfriedice> vnc786, What package management tool do you normally use?
[10:25] <ezra-s> sh*t
[10:26] <vnc786> ezra-s:  FYI before you proceed i just want to get rid of that packages errors which are coming every time
[10:26] <Deepfriedice> Also, I think I may have just broken my own system now.
[10:26] <zeroXten> whats the debsecan / yum-plugin-security alternative for ubuntu?
[10:26] <vnc786> Deepfriedice: i am always  with apt-get install
[10:27] <ezra-s> vnc786, I saw that same thing the other day.. if you must know the only way I found to solve it was... sudo apt-get purge each of those mentioned packages and some apt-get -f install in between
[10:27] <g105b> Nmbr1: hey apt-get update completed, doing it again is just as slow :/
[10:27] <Nmbr1> g105b: have you restarted?
[10:27] <g105b> Nmbr1: yeah
[10:27] <Nmbr1> hmm... is it every repository that is slow or only some?
[10:28] <g105b> every. it keeps on saying "something wicked happened"
[10:28] <ezra-s> vnc786, until I purged those I couldn't do normaly installing or other operations with packages
[10:30] <wilee-nilee> you can change the repo in software sources, there is a fastest ping option.
[10:30] <Nmbr1> g105b: does it say, "Something wicked happened resolving xxx:http"....
[10:30] <vnc786> ezra-s: but i can do normal package installation/uninstallation  like htop etc
[10:30] <Nmbr1> g105b: if it fails to resolve it could be a problem with dns
[10:31] <ezra-s> vnc786, lucky you.. but if you still want to get rid of those messages....
[10:31] <vnc786> ezra-s: yes
[10:31] <ezra-s> apt-get purge thempackages
[10:32] <g105b> Nmbr1: yeah that's what it says. I can access the internet fine though.
[10:32] <Deepfriedice> Well, shit.
[10:32] <Nmbr1> g105b: try the second to last solution at http://askubuntu.com/questions/310131/something-wicked-happened-error-in-apt-get
[10:32] <Deepfriedice> I'm glad vnc786 didn't follow my advice, I think I just broke apt on my own system.
[10:33] <ezra-s> Deepfriedice, ouch
[10:33] <wizrd> Deepfriedice: ouch
[10:33] <ezra-s> lol
[10:33] <vnc786> Deepfriedice:  :)
[10:33] <vnc786> Deepfriedice:  :(
[10:33] <ezra-s> vnc786, are you already purging those packages that give the warning?
[10:34] <Deepfriedice> Yeah, Ouch. apt-get update doest't get beyond "100% [Waiting for headers]"
[10:34] <ezra-s> Deepfriedice, that sounds like the old proxy bug in apt
[10:34] <Deepfriedice> ezra-s, hmm?
[10:35] <g105b> Nmbr1: worked!
[10:35] <g105b> Nmbr1: This was a fresh install though ... what could have caused it?
[10:35] <Nmbr1> g105b: awesome!
[10:35] <Nmbr1> g105b: not sure sometimes things are just messed up
[10:36] <Deepfriedice> Wait, It just made a bit more progress then stopped. I am confused.
[10:36] <ezra-s> Deepfriedice, long ago.. in a certain work location, waiting for headers would last forever ... I was being transparent-proxied to internet, and I had to add a certain options to apt.conf to avoid being cached and thus avoid waiting for headers forever..
[10:36] <Nmbr1> g105b: if it was a fresh install there shouldn't be anything missing but i'm glad it works
[10:36] <ezra-s> Deepfriedice, let me check my solution from back then, you might be suffering the same
[10:36] <Deepfriedice> ezra-s, I don't believe am am behind a proxy though....
[10:36] <fosser_josh1> synergy segmentation fault when i run synergy -f and gives  error "2013-07-16T11:33:48 WARNING: primary screen unavailable: unable to open screen"
[10:37] <vnc786> ezra-s: i tried with wordnet package i did this 1] apt-get purge wordnet which showed me that it will removed wordent pac 2] but i was still getting wordnet in CLI
[10:38] <ezra-s> Deepfriedice, if you are behind a proxy or transparent proxy go to cd /etc/apt/apt.conf.d and then add this in a 80http file - > http://apaste.info/9jts
[10:38] <Deepfriedice> ezra-s, I'm not behind a proxy. However, it is making occasional progress, so the fault may just be with crappy Telstra internet.
[10:39] <ezra-s> vnc786, it makes sense.. for some odd reason apt/dpkg thinks the package you installed is empty and there is no resitry of files installed, purge every one of them and then reinstall and then you can remove them for real if needed
[10:40] <ezra-s> Deepfriedice, yes, crappy internet , slow mirror ......or you are really being transparent-proxied in this last case what I mentioned is a good solution
[10:42] <Deepfriedice> ezra-s, scew this, I didn't spend my time setting this up to watch this. I'll just wipe everything and get apt working again.
[10:43] <ezra-s> :P
[10:44] <vnc786> ezra-s:  thanks for that so wouldn't be nice that i do re-installation considering that i am on this issue for last couple of months :)
[10:45] <moxzie> hi i am new in this irc
[10:45] <ezra-s> vnc786, re-installation of "packages", it is not that hard get those names in a single line apt-get purge them and if you really need them do the apt-get install again and if you don't apt-get install apt-get purge again
[10:45] <ezra-s> after spending a month this sounds like a 10 minute work
[10:45] <ezra-s> but... do as you please.. ofc
[10:46] <ezra-s> If I were you I would like to know which caused that in the first place too
[10:47] <Deepfriedice> Okay, I think I fixed my shit. How's vnc786 doing?
[10:47] <vnc786> ezra-s: i am with you what you are saying
[10:48] <vnc786> Deepfriedice: i am still there stuck
[10:48] <Deepfriedice> okay.
[10:51] <vnc786> ezra-s:  considering what you say how can i get every package name from this http://pastebin.com/q1wHn7hT
[10:51] <Deepfriedice> vnc786, Do you ever use Synaptic?
[10:51] <vnc786> Deepfriedice: what was that which solved the issue ?
[10:51] <vnc786> nope
[10:52] <Deepfriedice> vnc786, Which issue?
[10:52] <vnc786> the one with apt-get ?
[10:52] <Nmbr1> vnc786: can you apt-get purge, open synaptic, reinstall all google earth and then remove all google earth?
[10:53] <Deepfriedice> Nmbr1, Just use the reinstall option.
[10:54] <ezra-s> vnc786, awk works wonders the names seem to be in position $8
[10:54] <ezra-s> but I'm not an expert in awk to make you script right now in 30 seconds for you
[10:54] <g105b> How do I add icons to the unity launcher from terminal?
[10:54] <ezra-s> you can copy and paste names manually, they aren't that many ;P
[10:55] <Deepfriedice> vnc786, That was just the Australian server being nuts. Once I switched to the main server, everything was fine.
[10:56] <MonkeyDust> g105b  plenty tutorials, here's one http://www.howopensource.com/2012/10/create-application-launcher-add-icon-to-unity-ubuntu-12-10/
[10:57] <g105b> MonkeyDust: I can only find tuts like the one you linked, which doesn't tell me how to do it from the terminal - it requires dragging with the mouse
[10:57] <g105b> Really what I'm asking for is where does Unity hold its launcher settings ?
[10:58] <wilee-nilee> g105b, some here as well.
[10:58] <ActionParsnip> g105b:  xdg-desktop-menu install --novendor /path/to/programname.desktop
[10:58] <wilee-nilee> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UnityLaunchersAndDesktopFiles
[10:58] <ActionParsnip> g105b: source: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1972410
[10:59] <MonkeyDust> g105b  scroll don, point 2.   http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1962862
[11:00] <MonkeyDust> down*
[11:02] <vnc786> ezra-s: okay i have got all package name in pac.txt file can i do apt-get purge pac.txt
[11:02] <ActionParsnip> vnc786: sudo apt-get install `cat pac.txt`
[11:03] <MonkeyDust> i use cat pac.txt|xargs sudo apt-get install
[11:03] <blazemore> vnc786: sudo apt-get purge `cat pac.txt` (those are backticks, the key to the left of 1 on my keyboard)
[11:03] <blazemore> MonkeyDust: That works too, so do I actually
[11:04] <blazemore> MonkeyDust: But then I also do "cat filename | grep foo" rather than "grep foo filename"
[11:04] <ezra-s> vnc786, you can also try something like for i in `cat pac.txt`; do apt-get purge -y $i; done
[11:05] <ezra-s> "for...
[11:05] <ezra-s> if you have them all in one line that for won't be necessay
[11:05] <Deepfriedice> sudo apt-get purge $(cat pac.txt)
[11:06] <ezra-s> while `cat pac.txt` != ""; do
[11:06] <ezra-s> lol
[11:06] <vnc786> ezra-s:  http://pastebin.com/jaihpsR0
[11:07] <ikonia> Kartagis: you are mounting via nutailus using fuse and your LOCAL user, when you are setting the mount in fstab you are setting it to NON EXISTANT users, do you see the difference ?
[11:07] <Kartagis> ikonia: yes
[11:08] <ezra-s> vnc786, mmm, you still getting the warnings after you try to use apt-get for any other operation?
[11:10] <Deepfriedice> "Package $WHATEVER is not installed, so not removed", Well that's kinda interesting.
[11:11] <BluesKaj> Hey folks
[11:12] <afflicto> Hey all. whenever I write code in sublime text 2. I sometimes endup with strange non-utf8 characters. like "Â" and it breaks my code. This never ever happens on windows. why?
[11:12] <ezra-s> vnc786, hello?
[11:12] <vnc786> yes
[11:12] <ezra-s> vnc786, do you still get the warnings when using apt-get for anything else?
[11:12] <vnc786> checked with apt-get install htop
[11:12] <ezra-s> and...?
[11:13] <Deepfriedice> ~~~suspense~~~~
[11:14] <power_off> has anybody tried, `sudo rm -fr /` ?
[11:14] <ezra-s> I'm sure he is screwing it up again so he can keep chatting with us :o)
[11:14] <iceroot> power_off: stop that
[11:14] <iceroot> power_off: and its not working
[11:15] <Deepfriedice> power_off: piss off back to /g/
[11:15] <iceroot> Deepfriedice: stop that too
[11:15] <vnc786> ezra-s:  yes it is giving same error as previously posted in pastebin should i give it to you it is same
[11:15] <ezra-s> mmmm...
[11:15] <Deepfriedice> iceroot, sorry.
[11:16] <Deepfriedice> vnc786, What if you tried to install those packages?
[11:16] <ezra-s> vnc786, select one of those in the warning... do apt-get install on it ... and re-check if it still appears on the list
[11:16] <ezra-s> Deepfriedice, yes! I agree :)
[11:18] <vnc786> ezra-s:  Deepfriedice : wait i just got i have created new status file in /var/lib/dpkg/ i have restored the old one and now apt-get purge `pac.txt` show that it will remove list of packages
[11:19] <ezra-s> you touched /var/lib/dpkg earlier?
[11:19] <ezra-s> :O
[11:19] <ezra-s> you like to live on the edge that's for sure :P
[11:19] <Ben64> you should have mentioned that you messed with important files. also... you shouldn't mess with important files
[11:19] <snufft> I've been having an intermittant sound issue in 13.04. is there a way to restart audio?
[11:20] <ezra-s> yes, /var/lib/dpkg is sacred
[11:20] <Deepfriedice> snufft, just fire up your favourite task manager and kill pulseaudio.
[11:21] <Deepfriedice> It's not a "fix", but it will bring it back if something breaks it.
[11:22] <snufft> Deepfriedice, thanks heaps. worked great!
[11:22] <Ben64> my solution to audio problems is to remove pulseaudio
[11:22] <snufft> Deepfriedice++
[11:22] <snufft> Ben64, it hasn't quite annoyed me enough to do that just yet :P it probably breaks once every week or so?
[11:22] <Deepfriedice> Ben64, Yes, well. Linux Audio.
[11:22] <BluesKaj> snufft, install pavucontrol , it will solidfy your input and output settings
[11:23] <Ben64> snufft: if it ever does annoy you too much, use "sudo apt-get remove pulseaudio" ... don't do "purge"
[11:23] <vnc786> Ben64: was that for me yes i did mention but lost in conversation ezra-s: apt-get purge is removing my other packages which are not in file i fear to proceed ..
[11:23] <ezra-s> vnc786, if you are in a production machine... review what's going to be removed first
[11:24] <Ben64> vnc786: why are you trying to purge all that stuff anyway
[11:24] <ezra-s> vnc786, I assumed it is a desktop box or that you have full control over it, if you get something you need removed you can always reinstall, but if you are in a procution environment... well, thats offtopic
[11:24] <snufft> BluesKaj, thanks heaps :) Installing it now :)
[11:25] <snufft> Ben64, haha, no worries, will do! Thanks :)
[11:25] <ezra-s> Ben64, I suggested him that because we was getting warnings about them from dpkg.. like a screwed up installed database, but I didn0t know he had touched /var/lib/dpkg
[11:26] <ezra-s> I supposed if you force complete removal database state would return to normal
[11:27] <Deepfriedice> I would consider trying to bring dpkg back to a "out of the box" state.
[11:31] <Guest55405> Hi, can I remove the global menu WITHOUT breaking the HUD?
[11:33] <ActionParsnip> Guest55405: http://lifehacker.com/5887462/how-to-disable-ubuntus-annoying-global-menu-bar
[11:34] <ActionParsnip> Guest55405: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2012/03/global-menu-off-switch-wont-land-in-12-04
[11:34] <Guest55405> ActionParsnip: Will break the HUD
[11:36] <ActionParsnip> Guest55405: break ni what way?
[11:39] <vnc786> Deepfriedice:  ezra-s  finally  the bunch of  errors are not coming coming  thanks folks
[11:39] <Deepfriedice> vnc786, Awesome!
[11:44] <ezra-s> vnc786, so.. finally. what did it?
[11:45] <vnc786> ezra-s:  now when i do apt-get install <package name> it is not showing this http://pastebin.com/q1wHn7hT
[11:46] <ezra-s> vnc786, I'm asking.. what did you do to solve it!?
[11:46] <Guest55405> ActionParsnip: it does not work
[11:46] <Guest55405> simply as that
[11:46] <ActionParsnip> Guest55405: so does not show
[11:46] <Guest55405> it stops working
[11:47] <ActionParsnip> Guest55405: shows wrong data?
[11:47] <Guest55405> ActionParsnip: it does show, but it dont work
[11:47] <Guest55405> the HUD shows NOTHING
[11:47] <ActionParsnip> Guest55405: so thehud shows but is empty?
[11:47] <ActionParsnip> *the hud
[11:48] <Guest55405> ActionParsnip: yea
[11:48] <vnc786> as  you said  i just put all the packages name in one file and apt-get  purge `cat <file name> `
[11:48] <ActionParsnip> Guest55405: clarity is key in IT dude, your OS is a complex piece of software so saying "doesn't work" means near zero
[11:49] <Guest55405> ActionParsnip: so, can i remove the global menu without a fucked hud ?
[11:49] <clue_h> the hud on my machine remains empty til i search it Guest55405
[11:49] <clue_h> in it/8
[11:50] <Guest55405> clue_h: yea, but when i saerch it, it's totally empty
[11:50] <Guest55405> if i install the global menu, it works again
[11:51] <ActionParsnip> Guest55405: http://askubuntu.com/questions/10481/how-do-i-disable-the-global-application-menu   try the shared library hiding suggested by valadao
[11:51] <Guest55405> ActionParsnip: i will
[11:52] <ActionParsnip> Guest55405: or remove it as usual then install gnome-do, it does the stuff the hud does
[11:52] <Guest55405> gnome-do?
[11:52] <thunder1212> i want to increase my laptop battery life in ubuntu 12.04
[11:52] <Guest55405> never heard of it
[11:53] <Deepfriedice> thunder1212, look into powertop.
[11:53] <thunder1212> Deepfriedice: what after that?
[11:53] <Guest55405> thunder1212: Install TLP: http://linrunner.de/en/tlp/docs/tlp-linux-advanced-power-management.html
[11:53] <thunder1212> Deepfriedice: and will installing jupiter and lapto-mode tools help?
[11:54] <Mapos> Hi, I am sorry I am bothering you all, but can anyone recommend me any linux os? I have tested some but I am not satisfied with any of them.
[11:54] <Deepfriedice> I've never tried Jupiter, and I don't know as much about laptop-mode as I should
[11:54] <ActionParsnip> Guest55405: search the web, very powerful tool is gnome-do
[11:55] <Guest55405> Mapos: Ubuntu?
[11:55] <Mapos> Nope :D
[11:55] <ActionParsnip> thunder1212: run a lighter DE like LXDE of XFCE, it labours the CPU less and will extend battery life
[11:55] <Mapos> Ubuntu sucks :D
[11:55] <Deepfriedice> Mapos, This is probably the wrong place for that, but look at Distrowatch and wikipedia pages until you find something you like.
[11:55] <clue_h> hmm
[11:55] <ActionParsnip> Mapos: this is support, please ask in #ubuntu-offtopic or ##cafe-ubuntu
[11:55] <Mapos> THx
[11:56] <thunder1212> ActionParsnip: i have installed lxde but there is no power meter in it?
[11:56] <Deepfriedice> thunder1212, I will second ActionParsnip's suggestion of a different DE. Unity isn't particularly light, and it make a big difference to battery life.
[11:57] <thunder1212> ActionParsnip: or would installing lubuntu be more advisable?
[11:57] <thunder1212> Deepfriedice: ok
[11:57] <ActionParsnip> thunder1212: do you mean for battery level?
[11:57] <thunder1212> Deepfriedice: or install lubuntu?
[11:57] <thunder1212> ActionParsnip: yes..
[11:57] <ActionParsnip> thunder1212: sure there is, you can add it on the lxpanel
[11:57] <Deepfriedice> thunder1212, Lubuntu is just ubuntu with LDXE installed. It makes no difference how you get it.
[11:58] <ActionParsnip> thunder1212: you just need the lxde package and you will get the session
[11:58] <Nmbr1_> buffer -1
[11:59] <thunder1212> ActionParsnip: Deepfriedice Ok i have installed the package and i am in the lxde session rightnow. How about gnome-2d with no effects?
[11:59] <Deepfriedice> Gnome is pretty big these days too.
[11:59] <Deepfriedice> I would stick to XFCE, LDXE, or pure WM's if you really wan't to "cut the fat".
[12:00] <ActionParsnip> thunder1212: that is lighter too
[12:00] <thunder1212> ok ..  guess i will just stick to lxde and i think its litghter than xfce
[12:00] <ActionParsnip> thunder1212: it is slightly lighter
[12:00] <thunder1212> Deepfriedice: what is pure wm?
[12:00] <ActionParsnip> thunder1212: if you right click the panel to add items, there is a battery indicator
[12:01] <ActionParsnip> thunder1212: pure wm = running openbox or fluxbox etc on its own, no desktop environment
[12:01] <thunder1212> ActionParsnip: so is it without gui?
[12:01] <ActionParsnip> thunder1212: it has a GUI, just no DE. The WM gives you the GUI
[12:02] <thunder1212> ActionParsnip: you mean like running openbox only right
[12:02] <ActionParsnip> thunder1212: I run just openbox, but I use tint2 as a panel
[12:02] <ActionParsnip> thunder1212: yes, just openbox alone. super light
[12:02] <thunder1212> ActionParsnip: ok will be back in a minute..
[12:03] <ActionParsnip> thunder1212: http://i.i.com.com/cnwk.1d/i/tr/contentPics/techrepublic_fluxbox_desktop.jpg   super bare fluxbox session
[12:05] <Deepfriedice> Anyway, I'm going to crash for the night.
[12:05] <Deepfriedice> Night all.
[12:06] <philuk2000> Help! I cant get rid of Apache!!! I remove it but it's still there sitting on port 80 so I cant install lighttpd! I have tried sudo apt-get --purge remove apache2 but it's still listening, I get the webserver installed page back when I http to <IP_ADDRESS> WHY???
[12:06] <Guest55405> ActionParsnip: VALADAO?
[12:06] <Guest55405> opps caps
[12:09] <Guest55405> ActionParsnip: The file doesnt exists
[12:10] <elita> i am unable to access net on ubuntu which is estabilished on vmware although its showing connection estabilished. can anyone please tell what should i configure besides dhcp and ip?
[12:10] <elita> i am unable to access net on ubuntu which is estabilished on vmware although its showing connection estabilished. can anyone please tell what should i configure besides dhcp and ip?
[12:11] <nzee> Getting this "Error: .ini file does not include supervisorctl section" for 'supervisorctl restart all' What am I missing?
[12:11] <bgardner> elita: Can you ping your gateway?
[12:12] <Guest55405> ActionParsnip: apt-file found this
[12:12] <Guest55405> indicator-appmenu: /usr/lib/indicators3/7/libappmenu.so
[12:12] <Guest55405> indicator-appmenu-gtk2: /usr/lib/indicators/7/libappmenu.so
[12:12] <tga> greetings
[12:12] <tga> is there a stand alone app that properly supports MTP?
[12:12]  * tga is trying to move files to an Android phone
[12:13] <elita_> bgardner, yes
[12:13] <elita_> i cannot ping google though
[12:14] <DJones> tga: You could look into gMTP although I found it wasn't that good on 12.10 and earlier, I found the best method was to install airdroid on the the phone and then user a web browser in Ubuntu
[12:14] <bgardner> elita_: Can you ping <IP_ADDRESS> ?
[12:14] <xro> Hi, i just configurer a bonding... Is that normal i get  the ip address in bond0 and eth0 (eth1 is down for the moment)?
[12:14] <xro> I use actif-backup type
[12:15] <bgardner> philuk2000: Did you reboot yet?
[12:15] <tga> DJones: I was hoping for something like android file transfer for OSX
[12:15] <elita_> bgardner, no
[12:15] <ikonia> xro: they are not down - but they won't have IP's
[12:15] <HumanSlime> re-pet
[12:15] <DJones> tga: Since 13.04 I've not needed a standalone app, I just use Nautilus now that the drivers have been updated
[12:15] <sarahkitty> Rhythmbox tells me I need some mpeg decoder to run .mp3 files... What can I put into the terminal to fix this?
[12:16] <tga> DJones: 13.04 here, and when I try to write a file to the phone I get 'Back end doesn't support this'
[12:16] <DJones> tga: I've no idea what would be comparable to that OSX app
[12:16] <bgardner> elita_: Are you certain that your gateway is correctly configured?
[12:16] <elita_> yes i checked ipconfig|less and it was automatically configured by dhcp
[12:16] <MonkeyDust> sarahkitty  install restricted-extras
[12:16] <DJones> tga: I've not come across that, it might be worth filing a bug, what android version/phone is it, I use a Galaxy S3 and haven't had any issues
[12:17] <xro> ikonia, my status is : bond0 up with an IP, eth0 up with an IP , eth1 not connected for the moment... Is that normal bond0 & eth0 have an IP ? in actif-backup mode
[12:17] <tga> DJones: GNex 4.2.2 here
[12:17] <elita_> i used the same gateway that i was using on windows
[12:17] <bgardner> elita_: No, I mean are you certain the the machine indicated as your gateway is in fact operating as a gateway?
[12:17] <ikonia> xro: no
[12:17] <sarahkitty> Thank you
[12:17] <xro> ikonia, what i thought... have you an idea why?
[12:18] <bgardner> elita_: Okay.  Can you ping other hosts on your local network?
[12:18] <elita_> bgardner, i did not get you. the gateway is given by the service provider
[12:18] <ikonia> xro: come on, how can I have any idea why when you've given me zero information
[12:18] <ikonia> xro: my toes hurt, do you know why ?
[12:18] <xro> ikonia, you probably walk on something ....
[12:18] <ikonia> xro: how do you know, I've given you no information
[12:18] <BluesKaj> tga, check out Cantata , think there's a ppa
[12:19] <ikonia> xro: if you want ehlp, you'll need to provide details
[12:19] <tga> BluesKaj: thanks, checking it out
[12:19] <DJones> tga: I'm afraid I can't offer any other suggestions
[12:19] <xro> ikonia, i did exactly --> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBonding  and changed lacp by actif-backup
[12:19] <tga> DJones: thanks anyway
[12:19] <elita_> bgardner, yes
[12:20] <ikonia> xro: pastebin your interfaces file
[12:20] <BluesKaj> tga, I see it in the package manager
[12:20] <bgardner> elita_: Can you ping the nameserver provided by your ISP?
[12:20] <ikonia> bgardner: what does "ping" prove ?
[12:21] <thunder1212> ActionParsnip: hi
[12:21] <tga> BluesKaj: uh Cantata is a MPD client, what does it have to do with MTP file transfers
[12:21] <bgardner> ikonia: Ping proves network connectivity and configuration, which the user is asking about.
[12:21] <ikonia> bgardner: no it doesn't
[12:22] <ikonia> bgardner: ICMP is not a poof of connectivity or lack of it
[12:22] <xro> ikonia --> http://dpaste.com/1305269
[12:22] <bgardner> ikonia: You want to take over here?
[12:22] <elita_> bgardner, i am using ubuntu on vmware. d only connected host is my windows os
[12:22] <thunder1212> ActionParsnip: i am in openbox session
[12:22] <elita_> bgardner, yes i can ping gateway and dns
[12:22] <ikonia> bgardner: not really
[12:22] <xro> ikonia, looks good no?
[12:22] <BluesKaj> tga, http://news.softpedia.com/news/Cantata-1-0-0-Music-Player-Gets-a-Cover-Manager-and-Better-MTP-Support-350877.shtml
[12:22] <ikonia> xro: looks pretty sane
[12:23] <thunder1212> ActionParsnip: a panel with important apps is required
[12:23] <tga> BluesKaj: gotcha, thanks!
[12:23] <ikonia> xro: a stupid question, but have you rebooted since, I'm wondering if there is something like a dhcp client keeping your other cards active as stand alone cards
[12:23] <bgardner> ikonia: Kind of sounds like it.  Otherwise please let me diagnose here.
[12:23] <xro> ikonia, nop... i just did a networking restart
[12:24] <ikonia> xro: maybe worth it, just to get a clean sane platform
[12:24] <elita_> bgardner, what should i do?
[12:24] <xro> ikonia, boring... i'll get a downtime....
[12:24] <bgardner> elita_: Does 'host www.google.com' return an answer?
[12:24] <ikonia> xro: I'm sorry what ?
[12:24] <elita_> nope
[12:25] <elita_> bgardner, no .
[12:25] <bgardner> elita_: Okay, please do 'host www.google.com | pastebinit' and give me the link it hands you.
[12:25] <Guest55405> ActionParsnip: nopp, the HUD stops working,. not completly, though. alteratives for the network, calander etc are still showing up... but for FF, Nautilus, gimp and other apps, no
[12:26] <user123> how to unload wl module from memory
[12:27] <xro> ikonia, one more thing... in actif-backup, the backup interface never communicate, right?
[12:27] <dinnah> z it possible  2 install Skype on ubuntu??
[12:28] <ikonia> xro: think of it as a hot standby
[12:29] <xro> ikonia, yes... but i really need it like that... the standby must never communicate as the actif is working....
[12:29] <ikonia> xro: what do you mean communicte ? ?? communicate with what ?
[12:29] <Nmbr1> dinnah: http://bit.ly/16Gh52f
[12:30] <ikonia> Nmbr1: don't use things like that please
[12:30] <ikonia> Nmbr1: help him - or don't
[12:30] <dinnah> Nubr1:cant i do dat wit command?
[12:31] <mumpitze1> !skype | dinnah
[12:31] <elita_> bgardner, cannot copy paste nor give the link as i dont have net on ubuntu
[12:32] <elita_> bgardner, cannot copy paste nor give the link as i dont have net on ubuntu
[12:32] <Nmbr1> ikonia: please see pm
[12:33] <mumpitze1> elita_: you can make a screenshot of your VMWare session. and if your gateway is right, and your dns too, then it's not a ubuntu problem but a router a VMWare problem
[12:36] <bgardner> elita_: mumpitze1 is right - it sounds like your Ubuntu installation is not the issue.
[12:38] <elita_> bgardner, for host www.google.com  command its showing the ip of google and its ipv6 address.
[12:39] <mm12> hey wsup all
[12:39] <bgardner> elita_: Okay, that's a successful connection.  You said you couldn't reach the internet, what exactly is your issue?
[12:40] <mumpitze1> bgardner: that only means he is reaching his local DNS server
[12:40] <JyZyXEL> how do i enable a Wireless when NetworkManager says "Wireless disabled by hardware switch"
[12:40] <bgardner> mumpitze1: Hence my followup question...
[12:40] <elita_> bgardner,if i ping www.google.com i get host not found.
[12:40] <wasanzy> the latest ubuntu 13.04 doesn't come with the latest Gnome desktop environment?
[12:41] <wasanzy> I can't install gnome extensions
[12:41] <ActionPa1snip> wasanzy: not the very latest, no
[12:41] <mumpitze1> JyZyXEL: via rfkill for example. and looking for an actuall wlan switch on the notebook
[12:41] <JyZyXEL> there is no wlan switch on the laptop
[12:41] <JyZyXEL> just an empty space where the switch is supposed to be
[12:41] <mumpitze1> JyZyXEL: notice the word "and": it's important
[12:41] <saiarcot895> wasanzy: 13.04 has GNOME 3.6
[12:41] <JyZyXEL> so i can use rfkill instead
[12:42] <bgardner> elita_: Can you get to www.google.com (or other site) with Firefox?
[12:42] <saiarcot895> wasanzy: 3.8 just missed the cutoff, but there is a PPA you can install 3.8 from
[12:43] <saiarcot895> wasanzy: https://launchpad.net/~gnome3-team/+archive/gnome3
[12:43] <JyZyXEL> mumpitze1: it says Hard blocked: Yes
[12:43] <mm12> is ubuntu taking over windows 8
[12:44] <ActionPa1snip> mm12: no, its not a race....
[12:44] <wasanzy> saiarcot895: so how can I install that? I just installed Gnome environment and I can't install any extension
[12:44] <elita_> bgardner, nope, now i tried host www.google.com  again  and i am getting  host www.google.com .localdomain not found: 3( NXDOMAIN)
[12:44] <wasanzy> ok will check that out
[12:44] <dinnah> mm12:...yeah it is.
[12:45] <ActionPa1snip> mm12: how does one OS overtake another.....
[12:45] <ActionPa1snip> mm12: an OS is a tool for a job.
[12:45] <saiarcot895> wasanzy: first, add the PPA (sudo add-apt-repository ppa:gnome3-team/gnome3)
[12:45] <ironsight> when one os meets another os, the fierce mating ritual begins...
[12:46] <mm12> lol
[12:46] <saiarcot895> wasanzy: also, note that support for that will be in #ubuntu-gnome
[12:46] <wasanzy> oh ok
[12:46] <mm12> i just started using ubuntu i think its super
[12:47] <bgardner> elita_: As mumpitze1 and I noted earlier, this sounds like your Ubuntu installation is not the issue.  It is probably time to start reviewing your VMWare configuration.  If you need help with that, you can always go to #vmware.
[12:48] <ActionPa1snip> mm12: thats great :)
[12:48] <mm12> only one problem....
[12:48] <wasanzy> does ubuntu has driver for beat? my laptop has it which works well in windows but not on ubuntu
[12:48] <mm12> when i try to log into the boot menu i cant log into windows
[12:49] <mm12> only ubuntu...
[12:49] <ironsight> mm12: Did you overwrite your windows partition?
[12:49] <ironsight> if so, ouch
[12:49] <elita_> bgardner, i was facing the same problem on ubuntu which is estabilished with windows.
[12:49] <ActionPa1snip> mm12: what is the output of:  sudo update-grub; sudo fdisk -l
[12:49] <blazemore> mm12: When you did the installation, did you choose "Install alongside Windows" or did you choose "overwrite..."
[12:49] <ActionPa1snip> mm12: use http://pastie.org to host the output please
[12:49] <blazemore> mm12: perhaps it's worded "use entire disk"
[12:49] <ActionPa1snip> blazemore: we'll soon see :)
[12:49] <mm12> ok one sec
[12:50] <blazemore> ActionPa1snip: Why pastie and not paste.ubuntu?
[12:50] <JyZyXEL> how do i unblock hard blocked wifi?
[12:50] <mm12> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5874448/
[12:51] <mm12> no its on another driver
[12:51] <ActionPa1snip> blazemore: just habit, plus the URL is shorter
[12:51] <mm12> windows is on my 256 ssd corsair drive and ubuntu is on the 1 terra drive
[12:52] <elita_> mumpitzel, what should i do. i am facing the same problem on ubuntu which is estabilished on partition. can you please tell how to configure vmware?
[12:52] <bgardner> elita_: I'm not sure I understand you.  What do you mean the same problem 'established with windows'?
[12:52] <ActionPa1snip> mm12: if you run:  sudo update-grub   do you see the Windows OS listed?
[12:52] <dinnah> mm12:-tryn 2 undastand bt i cnt...
[12:53] <elita_> bgardner,using wubi i installed ubuntu along with windows in one of the drives.
[12:53] <mm12> i have to get into ubuntu for first one sec..
[12:54] <mm12> brb
[12:55] <user123> how to get brcmsmac module work on ubuntu 12.10 ? Broadcom BCM 4313 wifi adapter
[12:56] <bgardner> elita_: Okay, so you're saying you installed Ubuntu via Wubi and had this network connectivity issue, then installed a new copy of Ubuntu under VMWare and both Ubuntu installations had the same connectivity issue?
[12:56] <elita_> bgardner, yes.
[12:56] <ActionPa1snip> !broadcom
[12:56] <wasanzy> saiarcot895: (sudo add-apt-repository ppa:gnome3-team/gnome3) will add the repository for me to install the latest gnome? so do I have to remove the previous or it will upgrade it?
[12:57] <ActionPa1snip> wasanzy: it will just update it. we cannot support the gnome from that ppa here
[12:58] <user123> ActionPa1snip: motive is to increase speed....i tested ralink adapter and its giving double the speed
[12:58] <saiarcot895> wasanzy: you will still have to run sudo apt-get update and sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[13:00] <BobBall> Howdy :) My graphics card struggles with the window zooming effect when switching windows or desktops; how can I disable it?  I'm using 12.04.2
[13:00] <sydnerdrage> Evening all.  How does one go about installing a PPA built for precise on my raring box?  purely terminal install btw.
[13:00] <ActionPa1snip> sydnerdrage: that will cause a big mess
[13:01] <blazemore> sydnerdrage: Once you added it, go into /etc/apt/sources.list.d/repo-name.list and change "precise" to "raring" but prepare for potentially major breakage
[13:01] <ikonia> no you don't just do that
[13:01] <ikonia> you don't just blindly change names on the repos
[13:01] <bgardner> elita_: Okay, on your WINDOWS machine, do this command: 'ipconfig /all > output.txt'  Then take the file 'output.txt' that gets created and go to paste.ubuntu.com and put the contents on there for us.
[13:01] <blazemore> > http://paste.ubuntu.com/5874448/
[13:01] <blazemore> ignore ^
[13:01] <psilo> what does "blindly" mean in that context, haha
[13:02] <psilo> sydnerdrage: you can add the backports repositories, that's the only clean way to do it.
[13:03] <pip__> If I install AMD drivers using additional drivers in 13.04 do I need to run aticonfig --initial -f to be able to check temps & fan speeds?
[13:03] <mm12> Found linux image: /boot/vmlinuz-3.5.0-36-generic
[13:03] <mm12> Found initrd image: /boot/initrd.img-3.5.0-36-generic
[13:03] <mm12> Found linux image: /boot/vmlinuz-3.5.0-23-generic
[13:03] <mm12> Found initrd image: /boot/initrd.img-3.5.0-23-generic
[13:03] <mm12> Found memtest86+ image: /boot/memtest86+.bi
[13:03] <FloodBot1> mm12: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:03] <sydnerdrage> Ahh damn. Thanks anyway.
[13:04] <sydnerdrage> Might have to wait for a PPA to be built for raring then, apache2.4 and libapache2-mod-fcgid only seems to be built for precise to my knowledge
[13:04] <mm12> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5880748/
[13:05] <San1ty_> Will this repo work on ubuntu? http://docs.ajenti.org/man/install/debian.html (The developer says it does, but is there any way to be sure?)
[13:05] <ActionPa1snip> sydnerdrage: could contact the maintainer to see if they are interested in Raring at all
[13:05] <mm12> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5880748/
[13:06] <wasanzy> what is so good about gnome?
[13:06] <ikonia> sydnerdrage: is there a genuine reason you need apache 2.4 ?
[13:09] <ActionPa1snip> wasanzy: its the default in Ubuntu, people see that when they first use the OS and get used to it, my guess
[13:09] <elita_> bgardner,  http://fpaste.org/25653/73980121/
[13:10] <mm12> ActionPa1snip, ive posted it
[13:11] <ActionPa1snip> mm12: looks like its just not detected. Try:  sudo os-prober; sudo update-grub
[13:11] <wasanzy> ActionPa1snip: so apart from that, nothing so special than other desktops?
[13:11] <ActionPa1snip> mm12: if its not seen then I have no idea. I don't dual boot]
[13:11] <bgardner> elita_: Now in your VMWare Ubuntu, do 'ifconfig', then take a screenshot using your Windows host and upload that screenshot using http://imagebin.org/?page=add
[13:17] <elita_> bgardner, i am unable to take screenshot from windows . only from ubuntu
[13:17] <ActionPa1snip> wasanzy: they are just different, with different functionalities
[13:18] <wasanzy> ok
[13:19] <bgardner> elita_: Can you move files between Ubuntu and your VMWare host?
[13:20] <elita_> bgardner  no,why is the screenshot not working on windows when vmware is on?
[13:20] <bgardner> elita_: Because VMWare captures that key.
[13:21] <elita_> there must be a way to uncapture it, right?
[13:21] <bgardner> elita_: That's a VMWare question, which I don't use, so I don't know the answer.
[13:22] <elita_> okay, is it okay if i just write the output? only the required data?
[13:23] <kishor> hello
[13:23] <sydnerdrage> No reason other than new project to be released on 2.4 in a while - prefer to upgrade now than migrate mid-dev.   Might contact them then. Thanks!
[13:23] <theadmin> elita_: You can stop the key capture by hitting Ctrl-Alt, methinks
[13:24] <kishor> i want help regarding upstart deamon in ubuntu
[13:24] <el_blazemore> !ask | kishor
[13:24] <mustmodify> Is there a way to say ... grep A union grep B?
[13:24] <mustmodify> like, I want to know what files have content A and also content B?
[13:24] <bgardner> elita_: Sure, go ahead
[13:24] <blazemore> mustmodify: cat file | grep A | grep B
[13:24] <theadmin> mustmodify: cat file | grep A | grep B
[13:24] <ActionPa1snip> mustmodify: grep A file | grep B
[13:24] <blazemore> theadmin: snap
[13:25] <ActionPa1snip> waste of a cat
[13:25] <MonkeyDust> meow
[13:25] <theadmin> ActionPa1snip: True I guess
[13:25] <blazemore> ActionPa1snip: I always pipe cat to grep, just makes more sense to me conceptually
[13:25] <mustmodify> OK But those solutions assume that content is on the same line, right?
[13:26] <mustmodify> I'm saying anywhere in the file.
[13:26] <kishor> i am trying to execute a script which i have saved as /etc/init/myscript.conf,     script is ,
[13:26] <kishor> start on startup
[13:26] <elita_> inet= <IP_ADDRESS>
[13:27] <elita_> bgardner, broadcast id <IP_ADDRESS> mask <IP_ADDRESS>  this is on vmware
[13:27] <blazemore> mustmodify: Not sure I follow, you want to search a directory of files and recieve a list of those files which contain the strings "A" and also "B" ?
[13:27] <kishor> start on startup      exec echo "Current date:-" $(date) > /tmp/myscript.out      This script is not working.   Why??
[13:28] <mustmodify> blazemore: yes
[13:29] <ActionPa1snip> kishor: why the 'exec' command?
[13:29] <bgardner> elita_: Okay, it looks like your network configuration inside VMWare is one private network type (192.168.*) while your actual local network is another private network type (172.16.*) - that's going to be a VMWare-specific issue that we don't support here.
[13:29] <ActionPa1snip> kishor: does the user running the script have write access to the file?
[13:29] <bgardner> elita_: You should take this question to #vmware
[13:29] <mustmodify> blazemore: I know that a file somewhere uses "7.hours" and also at some point "puts" but apparently they aren't on the same line, as I've already looked for that.
[13:29] <elita_> bgardner, on ubuntu which is installed with windows inet=<IP_ADDRESS>  default gateway= <IP_ADDRESS> subnet <IP_ADDRESS>
[13:29] <kishor> yes have access to file
[13:30] <jrib> mustmodify: so grep for A, then run through the resulting files and grep for B in them
[13:30] <kishor> exec command to respond to the emited event by upstart
[13:30] <bgardner> elita_: I can't comment on the Wubi install, I don't have any experience with Wubi.
[13:31] <ActionPa1snip> kishor: I'd ask in #bash too
[13:33] <kishor> yes, same script is working with   "start on runlevel 2"  event.
[13:33] <mustmodify> jrib? so is it grep "A" . -rl | xargs grep "B"
[13:33] <jrib> mustmodify: like this:    grep -Rl a . | while read file; do grep b "$file"; done
[13:33] <jrib> mustmodify: sure, that works too.
[13:33] <elita_> bgardner, in vmware there is a router that connects the network
[13:34] <alena> hey who can help me to fix problems with skype on ubuntu?
[13:34] <jrib> mustmodify: you might have some issues with spaces in filenames with your xargs like that
[13:34] <kishor> ActionPalsnip : Why it is not working with start on startup  ?
[13:34] <mustmodify> jrib: something went crazy but then I put back in -rl at the end and it was better. Thanks.
[13:35] <bgardner> elita_: I understand the concept, but this channel is Ubuntu support and your question is a VMWare question.  You'll have much better luck with the #vmware support channel.
[13:35] <mustmodify> jrib: But I still don't see the expected file. :S
[13:35] <jrib> mustmodify: if you use xargs, add -Z option to grep and -0 option to xargs
[13:35] <adamk> alena: Unles syou tell us what problems you are talking about, no one will be able to help you :-)
[13:35] <alena> i just cant call ppl
[13:35] <jrib> mustmodify: maybe look at list results for just grep A and just grep B, see if there is a short one, then investigate with brain :)
[13:36] <alena> when i call person the programme closes
[13:36] <Sonoy> Hello
[13:36] <adamk> alena: If you run 'skype' in a terminal, and try to call someone, do you get any error when skype closes?
[13:37] <alena> em... u r asking hard stuff
[13:37] <kishor> ActionPalsnip : Why it is not working with start on startup  ?
[13:37] <adamk> alena: No, not really.
[13:37] <adamk> alena: Launch gnome-terminal and run skype.
[13:37] <adamk> alena: Then try to call someone and see if there's an error in the terminal.
[13:39] <elita> bgardner, okay thanks but no one is heping in vmware channel
[13:39] <alena> adamk  wait i will try dont go anywher
[13:40] <adamk> alena: Just bear in mind that skype is proprietary software.  It's quite possible we will not be able to figure out why it's crashing or stop it.
[13:41] <alena> i tried to call and it has failed and closed
[13:42] <adamk> alena: And did an error display on the terminal where you launched skype?
[13:42] <alena> no i guess
[13:42] <pranav> how to restart my workspace after crash event without quiting my programs in unity
[13:43] <adamk> alena: You guess? Either you did or you didn't.  Just look in the terminal where you started skype and see if there's an error message.
[13:45] <alena> wait i dont understand
[13:45] <alena> i should write skype in terminal?
[13:45] <alena> or
[13:45] <ActionPa1snip> alena: could try renaming the skype config folder
[13:46] <alena> how should i do it?
[13:46] <alena> PS write step by step for dump
[13:46] <ActionPa1snip> can anyone with skype check the $HOME and $HOME/.config folders for the skype folder.
[13:47] <wasanzy> how do I enable hibernate?
[13:47] <theadmin> ActionPa1snip: Is ~/.Skype (with a capital S, yes)
[13:47] <ActionPa1snip> theadmin: thanks
[13:47] <ActionPa1snip> alena: in terminal, run:  mv ~/.Skype ~/.Skype_old
[13:47] <ActionPa1snip> alena: then launch skype
[13:49] <alena> here no such file or cataloge
[13:50] <ActionPa1snip> alena: what is the output of: cat /etc/issue
[13:52] <alena> wait
[13:52] <alena> first thing worked
[13:52] <alena> thank you
[13:52] <ActionPa1snip> alena: yay
[13:52] <alena> :)
[13:52] <alena> woah
[13:52] <ActionPa1snip> alena: i guess you got no output from the first command, then reran
[13:53] <ActionPa1snip> alena: in Linux, if you get no output then it worked
[13:53] <ActionPa1snip> alena: no news is good news
[13:53] <alena> mmm i  guess i will never uderstand how to work with linux
[13:53] <alena> windows much easier
[13:54] <ActionPa1snip> alena: its just different, you'll learn
[13:54] <blazemore> I disagree, but then I spend a lot more time on Linux than I do on Windows
[13:54] <ActionPa1snip> alena: the folder held the config for skype
[13:54] <blazemore> alena: It's more a matter of what you're used to
[13:54] <ActionPa1snip> alena: you renamed the folder and ran the app, as there was no config folder, it generated default configs
[13:54] <theadmin> alena: You could also open a file manager, enable showing hidden files and delete the .Skype folder yourself, it just takes longer to explain
[13:54] <ActionPa1snip> alena: works in Windows for some apps too
[13:55] <alena> 0_0
[13:55] <ActionPa1snip> alena: and what theadmin said
[13:55] <ActionPa1snip> alena: this method of settings storage enables easy backup of settings as you just put the folder back in place
[13:56] <alena> uh hum..
[13:56] <ActionPa1snip> alena: how easy is it to restore a full set of settings in Outlook, from a blank install
[13:56] <ActionPa1snip> alena: ?
[13:57] <alena> ask it theadmin i think he knows
[13:57] <blazemore> lol
[13:57] <theadmin> I don't even remember how Outlook *looks*
[13:57] <ActionPa1snip> alena: its fairly complex, compare this to Thunderbird where you simply drop in your backed up ~/.mozilla folder and you are ready to go, no mess
[13:57] <anonee> hi room, trying to sudo apt-get install build-essential linux-headers- 'uname -r' but getting "Virtual packages like 'linux-headers' can't be removed. E: Unable to locate package uname -r  what's going on?
[13:57] <theadmin> I never used it, only opened it once by accident
[13:57] <theadmin> lol
[13:58] <ActionPa1snip> anonee: use backticks, not apostrophes
[13:58] <theadmin> anonee: You want `, not ' for that purpose
[13:58] <ActionPa1snip> theadmin: we have it at work
[13:58] <theadmin> anonee: Or $(command)
[13:58] <alena> thank you for help
[13:58] <anonee> thank you all. why backticks btw?
[13:58] <iceroot> anonee: and dont use a whitespace there  linux-headers-`uname -r`
[13:59] <iceroot> anonee: backticks because you want to execute the string inside, '' will just quote a string
[13:59] <anonee> yes,
[13:59] <anonee> I know that
[13:59] <ActionPa1snip> anonee: its like parenthasis in maths :)
[14:00] <ActionPa1snip> anonee: run:  uname -r   that will replace the backtick part as it is ran first
[14:00] <anonee> thank you all
[14:00] <anonee> just one more thing
[14:01] <anonee> no, no more things for now, that was great, thank you all
[14:01] <anonee> :)
[14:01] <anonee> OMG ubuntu!
[14:01] <anonee> :D
[14:01] <ActionPa1snip> anonee: nice site for news
[14:02] <anonee> Peace...
[14:03] <readyjar> Anyone running 13.04 in a vm?
[14:03] <SonikkuAmerica> Hooray, Verizon's joined Ubuntu Touch Advisory Council!
[14:03] <readyjar> And seeing much less performance than running physically?
[14:03] <theadmin> SonikkuAmerica: A while ago actually
[14:03] <SonikkuAmerica> (inb4 !touch but that's good noews)
[14:03] <SonikkuAmerica> (*news)
[14:03] <theadmin> readyjar: You may want to enable 3D acceleration as Unity has currently somewhat limited 2D support
[14:04] <ActionPa1snip> readyjar: that will happen, the hardware is virtualized
[14:04] <ActionPa1snip> readyjar: or run LXDE or XFCE :)
[14:04] <readyjar> theadmin: Yea already did that
[14:04] <saiarcot895> SonikkuAmerica: it's the first major US wireless network, I think
[14:04] <readyjar> ActionPa1snip: I just installed lxde, still pretty sketchy
[14:04] <ActionPa1snip> readyjar: install xfce4, log off and try the XFCE session
[14:05] <SonikkuAmerica> saiarcot895: I'm surprised AT&T didn't sign on yet, but Deutsche-T (T-Mobile's parent) did
[14:05] <readyjar> ActionPa1snip: I'll give that a try. I may just need to find a distro better suited for vm though :(
[14:05] <saiarcot895> SonikkuAmerica: they have Apple to worry about; but then again, Verizon carries the iPhone as well
[14:05] <ActionPa1snip> readyjar: puppy liny, tinycore, damnsmall linux, xpud
[14:05] <ActionPa1snip> readyjar: slitaz
[14:06] <SonikkuAmerica> saiarcot895: So does Straight Talk! (But we're going !ot)
[14:06] <ActionPa1snip> readyjar: crunchbang
[14:06] <SonikkuAmerica> readyjar: DSL
[14:06] <blazemore> readyjar: crunchbang
[14:06] <readyjar> ActionPa1snip: I hear about crunchbang a lot recently
[14:06] <blazemore> readyjar: That's because it's awesome, I used it full-time at work for 6 months
[14:06] <readyjar> Have some programmer friends who live by it
[14:07] <tnim> readyjar:  I have a server and desktop instance in vm... no problem.
[14:07] <readyjar> brb trying xfce
[14:07] <blazemore> It gets out your way, especially on a laptop
[14:07] <tnim> readjar: but neither under heavy load
[14:08] <readyjar> Hmm
[14:08] <readyjar> Still rendering windows pretty poorly
[14:09] <readyjar> Dragging them around definitely causes some trails
[14:09] <Equinox3> how many games do you guys see on your ubuntu steam?
[14:10] <theadmin> Equinox3: All those that I own and those that run on Linux?
[14:10] <blazemore> Equinox3: 2
[14:10] <blazemore> Equinox3: It depends how many you bought...
[14:10] <Equinox3> ah ok
[14:11] <Equinox3> i don't have any. :P
[14:12] <blazemore> Equinox3:  I am not able rightly to apprehend the kind of confusion of ideas that could provoke such a question
[14:13] <Equinox3> blazemore: i was just wondering if it'd show all the games playable on linux
[14:13] <blazemore> Equinox3: It will in the store
[14:13] <Equinox3> i meant linux games
[14:13] <blazemore> Equinox3: Open Steam, look in the store
[14:14] <Equinox3> the store has it all, but on the linux games there's only one
[14:14] <DestinyAwaits> Is Ubuntu 13.04 better then previous release?
[14:14] <blazemore> !best | DestinyAwaits
[14:14] <blazemore> DestinyAwaits: It has newer software than previous releases
[14:14] <ActionPa1snip> DestinyAwaits: depends. I think its not so good as its only supported til January 2014....depends on needs
[14:15] <Equinox3> DestinyAwaits: try it on a live cd, if everything works, you should be good with it
[14:15] <readyjar> Yup gnome seems to be the best performing DM, surprisingly
[14:16] <blazemore> Equinox3: You have to buy the game before you can play it
[14:16] <DestinyAwaits> Thanks Guys for all your advice
[14:16] <DestinyAwaits> :)
[14:16] <DestinyAwaits> This is what I needed 7% downloaded
[14:16] <blazemore> Equinox3: You can buy them here http://store.steampowered.com/browse/linux/
[14:16] <DestinyAwaits> :)
[14:16] <Equinox3> got it. blazemore :)
[14:16] <Equinox3> thanks
[14:18] <DestinyAwaits> I was surfing and I got to know there there are performance fixes etc dunno if that is correct
[14:18] <readyjar> Well unity isn't too far behind gnome
[14:18] <DestinyAwaits> that is the reason i asked
[14:19] <ActionPa1snip> readyjar: you use Gnome when you run Unity. Unity doesn't replace Gnome
[14:19] <readyjar> Hmm really? Because I've always read they are replacements for one another
[14:20] <blazemore> readyjar: You read wrong then sadly
[14:20] <pranav> ok, the enter in my numpad is more accessible then top-right small pg-down. is there anyway i can override the numpad-enter button to perform as pageDown in ubuntu ?
[14:20] <theadmin> readyjar: Unity uses a lot of GNOME's stuff
[14:20] <readyjar> Weird. Seems to be everywhere I read talks about them as separate entities
[14:21] <wilee-nilee> readyjar, Unity replaced gnome 2 is what you have read.
[14:21] <Entricular> Unity is horrible
[14:21] <Entricular> That is why i use Linux Mint
[14:21] <pranav> its awesome
[14:21] <SonikkuAmerica> Entricular: No one said you had to use it
[14:21] <Entricular> Gnome2
[14:22] <theadmin> Entricular: And nobody cares what you use :P This is offtopic here
[14:22] <SonikkuAmerica> !ot | Entricular
[14:22] <Entricular> SonikkuAmerica, Until Ubuntu provides a better solution then I will use Linux Mint
[14:22] <blazemore> Entricular: Fill your boots. What's your point?
[14:22] <wilee-nilee> Entricular, mint is ubuntu
[14:22] <SonikkuAmerica> Entricular: Have you even tried the other flavors?
[14:23] <SonikkuAmerica> !flavors | Entricular
[14:23] <Entricular> SonikkuAmerica, No I have not
[14:23] <SonikkuAmerica> Entricular: Then how can you make that judgment?
[14:23] <SonikkuAmerica> Besides, wilee-nilee is right (unless you're using LMDE)
[14:23] <Entricular> SonikkuAmerica, The best Linux hasn't been invented yet
[14:23] <wilee-nilee> if your using cinnamon that is gnome 3 forked
[14:23] <Entricular> SonikkuAmerica, Why do you like LMDE ?
[14:24] <Entricular> Because it's based on Debian is that right
[14:24] <SonikkuAmerica> Entricular: Whoever said I did?
[14:24] <Entricular> so is Ubuntu
[14:24] <Entricular> LMDE, i never tried
[14:25] <Pici> Ladies, Gentlemen, can we please keep this channel open for support. Opinions can be discussed in #ubuntu-offtopic.
[14:25] <SonikkuAmerica> !ot | AGAIN
[14:25] <readyjar> Sorry for starting a flame war here
[14:25] <Entricular> I would like to try LMDE someday but I like Linux Mint right now
[14:26] <kos_> exit
[14:26] <DestinyAwaits> One question
[14:26] <blazemore> kos_: /quit
[14:26] <theadmin> Entricular: Go to the Mint channels then, will you? You can tell clem how great Mint is if you like it. Please keep this ontopic here, though, for Ubuntu support questions only.
[14:26] <DestinyAwaits> Is Juju comes pre installed with Ubuntu? or there is a seprate installer?
[14:26] <theadmin> DestinyAwaits: I think you have to apt-get install juju, at least on the desktop version
[14:27] <DestinyAwaits> ok
[14:27] <DestinyAwaits> Yes Downloading the Desktop release
[14:27] <DestinyAwaits> now
[14:27] <kos_> You speak to russia
[14:27] <ActionPa1snip> !info juju
[14:27] <ActionPa1snip> !ru | kos_
[14:28] <Entricular> kos_, Who is Russia ?
[14:30] <kos_> Здесь кто нибудь говорит на Русском?
[14:30] <theadmin> kos_: /join #ubuntu-ru и нажмите Enter. Там русские.
[14:31] <kos_> Спасибо
[14:31] <DestinyAwaits> ActionPa1snip: Thanks
[14:31] <ActionPa1snip> DestinyAwaits: any time
[14:33] <sh_ahmed> Hi guys, my usb flash drive is not working today, it is not even getting recognized.
[14:33] <sh_ahmed> Everything was good till yesterday.
[14:34] <sh_ahmed> How can i dig into what has happened?
[14:34] <cipherboy> sh_ahmed, recognized how? does it show up in `sudo fdisk -l`?
[14:34] <ActionPa1snip> sh_ahmed: when you last unplugged it, did you safe remove it before physically unplugging it?
[14:34] <sh_ahmed> It doesn't show up in 'lsusb'
[14:34] <cipherboy> also, when you plug it in, check dmesg: `dmesg | tail -n 30` and you might see something.
[14:34] <sh_ahmed> Actionpa1snip, no
[14:35] <ActionPa1snip> sh_ahmed: then you are mistreating your hardware
[14:35] <ActionPa1snip> sh_ahmed: is it NTFS based?
[14:36] <ActionPa1snip> sh_ahmed: If it is, then shove it in a Windows system and run a full chkdsk. Then safely remove the device and wait til you are told you can unplug it. Then remove and you'll probably find it's ok.
[14:37] <sh_ahmed> unfortunately, I don't use that safe removal mode
[14:37] <sh_ahmed> It was FAT32. By flash drive, I meant a pen drive
[14:37] <bluefoxxx> Proftpd isn't chroot()ing properly and I don't get why.
[14:37] <bluefoxxx> the logs say it chroot() successfully, but my client has access to / instead of the chroot() path
[14:37] <bluefoxxx> /proc/[pid]/root points to /
[14:37] <sh_ahmed> I don't use windows btw. So can't check right now. Is there any other method?
[14:38] <auronandace> sh_ahmed: you don't just unplug usb sticks, they need to be safely unmounted first
[14:38] <readyjar> How do you check what all repos you have added?
[14:39] <adamk> Yeah, but pulling out a flash drive without unmounting shouldn't cause it not to be recognized by the OS...  It might hose the filesystem, but should still show up in lsusb.
[14:39] <Reg_> Reg207
[14:39] <sh_ahmed> auronandace, that means my usb stick is briked? :O
[14:39] <adamk> sh_ahmed: Check the output of 'dmesg' when you insert the device and see if the kernel registers anything...
[14:40] <adamk> sh_ahmed: Sounds like the drive or the USB controller might be damaged.  Could be a driver issue, instead, but that seems really really unlikely.
[14:40] <sh_ahmed> adamk, thanks, I'll try that one.
[14:41] <jilebedev> Hello. I've a line in my crontab like this: "* * * * * php -f script.php &>>/var/log/scriptlogfile" However, stdout and stderr are not redirected to a logfile and instead are emailed to me (well, to my local account). What am I doing wrong?
[14:41] <adamk> sh_ahmed: I would definitely try the device in another computer, and try another USB device in the same port.
[14:42] <BlueEagle> jilebedev: I am not sure what the & is doing placed there.
[14:42]  * mecool :)
[14:42] <jilebedev> BlueEagle: & to redirect both stdout and stderr to a logfile.
[14:42] <sh_ahmed> adamk, Now it's being recognized, strange.
[14:42] <readyjar> Ok how do I actually delete entries from /etc/apt/sources.list.d ?
[14:42] <BlueEagle> jilebedev: Ahh. Then I learned something new. Thanks.
[14:43] <theadmin> readyjar: Just rm the files?
[14:43] <ActionParsnip> readyjar: they are just files, delete them as you wish
[14:43] <jilebedev> readyjar: highly sensible idea to mv them to a backup location instead of rm'ing them :)
[14:43] <sh_ahmed> Anyway, thanks guys.
[14:43] <theadmin> jilebedev: Put that in a script, the cron syntax is not the same as the sh syntax so that redirection probably won't work
[14:44] <readyjar> Ah I get it now. Tried to delete via vim not realizing it was a directory. Didn't know you could vim a directory
[14:44] <jilebedev> theadmin: can't I just /bin/sh --execute `php -f script.php` &>>logfile    ?
[14:44] <theadmin> jilebedev: ...well... you could try, but I don't really see the point, scripts are easier to manage imo
[14:44] <adamk> sh_ahmed: Could be a flaky usb controller or usb port. Or the drive itself could be flaky.  Either way, back up whatever is on that device and stop just pulling it out of the computer.
[14:44] <sh_ahmed> adamk: problem again,
[14:45] <BlueEagle> jilebedev: 2nd hit on google was: 5 * * * * /dir/php /dir/process_fns.php >> /dir/dump.txt 2>&1
[14:45] <sh_ahmed> whenever I try to unmount using disk utility, it is saying the disk is not mounted.
[14:45] <sh_ahmed> same error when I try to unmount it through nautilus/marlin also.
[14:45] <jilebedev> BlueEagle: Yep, that's the "old" way of redirecting the streams. & refers to both file descriptors 1 and 2. It's available in later versions of bash.
[14:46] <jilebedev> Both are correct, just & more convenient than remembering which fd is 1 and which one is 2.
[14:47] <ActionParsnip> sh_ahmed: is it NTFS based, my link died?
[14:47] <sh_ahmed> ActionParsnip, it is not ntfs based, it is FAT32
[14:48] <BlueEagle> jilebedev: Well, if it works. ;)
[14:48] <ActionParsnip> sh_ahmed: then you especially need to eject properly, get it checked under windows
[14:48] <sh_ahmed> Okay. I don't use windows, I can't check that right now.
[14:49] <sh_ahmed> As far as I can see, read and write operations are happening.
[14:53] <Penol-> im trying to install HVR-930C USB DVB-C card, but i wont work, any tips?
[14:53] <ActionParsnip> Penol-: run:  lsusb   use the 8 character hex id to find guides
[14:54] <Penol-> ActionParsnip: 2040:b130 ?
[14:54] <mojtaba> Hi, Is Adobe Acrobat reader secure?
[14:55] <mojtaba> I had lots of problems with Adobe products in windows era.
[14:55] <auronandace> mojtaba: haha, adobe secure? you are joking right?
[14:55] <mojtaba> auronandace: I mean what will happen if I install it in ubuntu?
[14:55] <sh_ahmed> mojtaba, well I use evince, it works well and secure too. Is there any reason you want to use adobe reader specifically?
[14:56] <stevejb> http://askubuntu.com/questions/320681/after-upgrading-from-12-10-to-13-04-virtualbox-vms-are-unstable
[14:56] <auronandace> mojtaba: it will work but up to you if you want adobe's software on your computer
[14:56] <mojtaba> Recently I was filling an important form, which needs adobe.
[14:56] <stevejb> if anyone can glance at that, that would be extremely helpful
[14:57] <vadrao> Hi all, I have two specific questions regarding installing Ubuntu on UEFI and GPT enabled ultrabook.
[14:57] <vadrao> 1) When installing Ubuntu, should we explicitly choose "device for boot loader installation" as /dev/sda or /dev/sda3 (EFI partition)?
[14:57] <Reg_> has anyone seen this object error in win 7 that wont go away when you try to close it?
[14:57] <vadrao> 2) How would I uninstall or install another distro on the same partition. Previously, we just used to reformat it. Now because the keys are stored in EFI partition, how do we remove them.
[14:58] <auronandace> !uefi | vadrao
[14:58] <mojtaba> What should I do to prevent it from spying or whatever, if I forced to have it on my laptop?
[14:58] <cfhowlett> mojtaba, don't use it.
[14:58] <cfhowlett> mojtaba, or use a virtual machine and put it there.
[14:59] <mojtaba> cfhowlett: Actually I must fill a form which is for embassy, and it just opens with adobe. :X
[15:00] <cfhowlett> mojtaba, virtual machine will work.  I run virtualbox with distros all the time
[15:00] <vadrao> auronandace: How would I remove ubuntu and install another distro on top of it?
[15:00] <mojtaba> cfhowlett: My laptop is very slow. :(
[15:00] <vadrao> because the keys are stored in EFI partition, how do we remove them.
[15:00] <auronandace> vadrao: i've never used efi
[15:00] <mojtaba> Is there anyway to prevent it from doing wrong things on my laptop? e.g. setting firewall, ...
[15:01] <adamk> mojtaba: No one here can guarantee that Adobe's proprietary software isn't going to do something to your machine...  It is proprietary, after all.
[15:01] <cfhowlett> mojtaba, well, assuming you don't have Top secret clearance and you're not auctioning off launch codes, I'd say, fill out the form and delete the ADOBE products when finished
[15:02] <mojtaba> adamk: Ok, how can I delete it? I have installed it unfortunately. (I am a newbie.
[15:02] <cfhowlett> mojtaba, sudo apt-get purge adobe*
[15:03] <mojtaba> cfhowlett: I run the command, but it is still in my desktop.
[15:04] <mojtaba> cfhowlett: I have installed it from a .bin file
[15:04] <sh_ahmed> check your /opt, it might be there.
[15:04] <ActionParsnip> mojtaba: you'll probably need the same file to remove, o look in /opt somewhere to see if there is a removal script
[15:05] <mojtaba> ActionParsnip: Still I have the original downloaded file (.bin)
[15:06] <mojtaba> how can I use it?
[15:07] <djono> hello all im having troubles transferring files from ubuntu to usb. it says its done transferring but the file becomes corrupted and only partial file is actually transfered
[15:07] <darrell09thomas> need help ubuntu 12.04 lts every time it up dates and then reboots seems theres a problem a few times cant get onto ubuntu from login screen as the update has removed the ubuntu desktop and i had to reinstall it so how can i sort it when it updates this problem dont happen again
[15:09] <pzn> ubuntu 13.04. I connected to ethernet, it got <IP_ADDRESS>. then I modify dhcpd.conf of the server to give me a fixed address <IP_ADDRESS>; when I connect I see an DHCPREQUEST package asking for <IP_ADDRESS> and since this is a valid address in range, the server answers ACK
[15:09] <pzn> how can I fix this DHCP request package?
[15:09] <cuddylier> Why would a ubuntu screen not allow me to type in it eventhough it's active?
[15:09] <wilee-nilee> darrell09thomas, first guess is you have added something to your sources, a update wont remove the desktop unless you have caused it in some way.
[15:10] <mojtaba> ActionParsnip: Still I have the original downloaded file (.bin) how can I use it to remove the Adobe??
[15:13] <wilee-nilee> djono
[15:13] <djono> yes willee-nilee
[15:13] <wilee-nilee> djono, This a file more than 4 gigs and a fat32 usb?
[15:14] <djono> wilee-nilee most are under 4gb but the usb stick is ntfs. ive had worse problems using fat32
[15:15] <wilee-nilee> djono, YOu checked if the hidden trash is empty?
[15:16] <djono> wilee-nilee yes the hidden trash is always empty. i try the cp method the grsync and luckybackup method for transferring and all the same.
[15:16] <wilee-nilee> djono, Not sure then here.
[15:17] <varunendra> djono, even the smaller files get corrupted?
[15:18] <djono> varunendra. i'd say 1 out of 20 will be corrupted. bigger than 700 1 and 3 that it is corrupted
[15:19] <varunendra> have you checked the drive on other computers / OS? Sounds like a corrupt flash memory /drive to me.
[15:19] <ActionParsnip> mojtaba: check in /opt I believe it adds an uninstall script there
[15:19] <ActionParsnip> mojtaba: is it acrobat reader you want removing?
[15:20] <mojtaba> ActionParsnip: yes
[15:20] <djono> varunendra. yes i have. no problems. the transfers work in windows. but in ubuntu it just always hit or miss
[15:21] <djono> sometimes i get false readings where it says its done copying but only the some of the file would be transferred.
[15:21] <mojtaba> ActionParsnip: There is a file in /opt/Adobe/Reader9/bin/UNINSTALL
[15:21] <ActionParsnip> mojtaba: sudo apt-get purge adobereader-enu; sudo apt-get --purge autoremove
[15:21] <ActionParsnip> mojtaba: maybe
[15:22] <varunendra> djono, what kind of drive is it? USB HDD? Flash thumb drive?
[15:22] <mojtaba> ActionParsnip: E: Unable to locate package adobereader-enu
[15:22] <djono> varunendra. usb flash drive
[15:24] <wilee-nilee> djono, Have you had windows run a check on it?
[15:24] <varunendra> djono, have you tried reformatting the drive? Could be a corrupt partition table (not sure how windows handles it then)
[15:25] <djono> on me buddies computer. the usb drive is fine. even bought a new one and same thing. i don't run windows on me computer. i always format through gparted
[15:25] <darrell09thomas> please help everytime i try to upgrade ubuntu i keep getting this (  * SECURITY UPDATE: log file poisoning via mod_rewrite (LP: #1188069)
[15:25] <darrell09thomas>     - debian/patches/CVE-2013-1862.patch: properly escape items in
[15:25] <darrell09thomas>       modules/mappers/mod_rewrite.c.
[15:25] <darrell09thomas>     - CVE-2013-1862
[15:25] <darrell09thomas>   * SECURITY UPDATE: denial of service via MERGE request
[15:25] <FloodBot1> darrell09thomas: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:26] <ActionParsnip> darrell09thomas: what is the output of: cat /etc/issue
[15:26] <wilee-nilee> darrell09thomas, First is was a update that removes the desktop, you trying to upgrade a broken system?
[15:27] <varunendra> djono, something is not normal there. I'm using all sort of drives for more than a year with many distros, never had a problem with ntfs on Linux.
[15:27] <darrell09thomas> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5881191/
[15:27] <ActionParsnip> darrell09thomas: what is the output of: cat /etc/issue
[15:28] <djono> varunendra its not only ntfs its also fat 32. its a new computer as well. same thing happened on me old system
[15:29] <darrell09thomas> Ubuntu 12.04.2 LTS \n \l
[15:29] <djono> the transfers seem fast but only partial file copy even when it says its finished. when the transfer is slow whenever it decides to be slow the outcome is better
[15:29] <darrell09thomas> Ubuntu 12.04.2 LTS \n \l
[15:29] <djono> varunednra is there a way to check?
[15:30] <varunendra> Check what?
[15:30] <darrell09thomas> i keep getting this http://paste.ubuntu.com/5881191/  when i try to upgrade how can i sort this problem out please without reinstalling ubuntu 12.04lts
[15:30] <mojtaba> ActionParsnip: E: Unable to locate package adobereader-enu
[15:30] <djono> why its nor normal
[15:31] <genial> Hello, I need some help here. I've installed Ubuntu Server on a machine which has a NIC which the installation didn't have the drivers to. I've located the drivers on the internet, but they require making, and I can't apt-get the build-essentials. Any tips?
[15:31] <blazemore> genial: What is the nic?
[15:31] <ActionParsnip> mojtaba: according to a site I found, the UNINSTAL dir you found should contain an uninstall script, or the UNINSTALL thing you named is the thing to run
[15:32] <genial> blazemore: JMicron JMC260
[15:32] <ActionParsnip> genial: use a usb storage, I believe build essential is on the install DVD but may be on the install CD too...
[15:34] <genial> Ah ActionParsnip, I didn't think of using the CD as a repository - I'll give that a shot! Thanks.
[15:34] <varunendra> djono, since you say it's same on another computer too, I'm not sure what to suggest. Just thinking.... I have a worked on a whole network of Ubuntu/Mint running computers. Never faced such problems. Except that it very often takes a long time to actually 'Finish' a large copy on flash drives.
[15:35] <djono> varunenra. maybe the me problem would get worked. just cannot go back to winblows after a 3 year hatious
[15:36] <mojtaba> ActionParsnip: could you please let me know how should I run it?
[15:36] <wasanzy> hello still not getting the extensions, how do I know the version of Gnome installed?
[15:36] <wasanzy> I know gnome extensions
[15:36] <uvala> hello, it's been 42 days since choqok hasn't updated. can anyone suggest another client where I can view multiple twitter accounts?
[15:37] <uvala> I mean, with usual functions
[15:38] <killerspec_> hi all is it possible to join a windows work I am running pinguy and windows 7
[15:39] <wilee-nilee> killerspec_, Pinguy is not supported here. ;)
[15:40] <killerspec_> ok using ubuntu with windows 7 can I join the work group on my ubuntu system
[15:41] <wilee-nilee> try #PinguyOS you are not running ubuntu
[15:41] <Guest55405> Can I inactive the Global Menu without breaking the HUD? Gnome-Do only works for certain applications (not as many as the Uinty Hud does).
[15:41] <ActionParsnip> mojtaba: in a terminal, prefixed with sudo
[15:42] <wilee-nilee> Guest55405, Have you considered the other desktops?
[15:42] <iceroot> Kartagis: sure, with wine, have a look at #winehq for joining nt-domains (samab3) or ad-domains (samba4)
[15:42] <iceroot> Kartagis: sorry wrong nick
[15:43] <Guest55405> wilee-nilee: I love Unity, except the global menu and the amazon ads
[15:43] <Guest55405> the amazon ads is easy to remove
[15:43] <mojtaba> ActionParsnip: Thank you very much. Get rid of it. (Is there any left overs like in windows?)
[15:43] <Guest55405> but the global menu isn't
[15:43] <mojtaba> any registery, or whatever?
[15:44] <qwebirc91412> ?
[15:44] <qwebirc91412> Can anybody help me in solving my ubuntu problem ?
[15:45] <ActionParsnip> mojtaba: no idea, its Adobe's thing. I'd imagine its ok
[15:45] <wilee-nilee> qwebirc91412, You want us to guess, state it.
[15:46] <genial> Thanks ActionParsnip, you're a champ! Using the CD as a repo I got it built and installed successfully! :)
[15:46] <qwebirc91412> I have ubuntu installed on my pc but now I want to install windows 7, how can I do this without losing my data ?
[15:47] <Fernseher> hey linuxians
[15:47] <wilee-nilee> qwebirc91412, back it up to begin with
[15:47] <qwebirc91412> currently i dont have any external media for backup ?
[15:47] <Fernseher> buy one
[15:48] <Fernseher> Is there an ubuntu-wiki like the arch one??
[15:48] <Fernseher> counldn't find one on duckduckgo
[15:48] <saiarcot895> Fernseher: besides wiki.ubuntu.com ?
[15:49] <jrib> Fernseher: http://help.ubuntu.com/community
[15:50] <AlexBell> hi are James Page, Miguel Landaeta, tony mancill, or Jakub Adam on IRC?
[15:50] <wilee-nilee> !ot > AlexBell
[15:51] <Fernseher> ok, besides wiki.ubuntu.com which seems to be an terrible "wiki"
[15:51] <jrib> AlexBell: I suggest finding their irc handles and checking
[15:51] <AlexBell> wilee-nilee: it's not off topic. they are package managers.
[15:51] <Pici> AlexBell: Depending what you need from them, #ubuntu-motu might be the best place to start.
[15:51] <AlexBell> does anyone know any of their handles?
[15:51] <wilee-nilee> Fernseher, Both OS have multiple wiki's on many subjects.
[15:51] <Pici> AlexBell: They're on their launchpad pages.
[15:52] <AlexBell> Pici: awesome!
[15:52] <columb> How  to make HDD with ubuntu bootable? Installed ubuntu from wubi. Windows and ubuntu is on separated  HDDs.
[15:53] <Fernseher> hmpf
[15:53] <wilee-nilee> columb, wubi boots through the windows bootloader, you have a wubi file on a second HD, not a partitioned install which would boot independently.
[15:54] <laolu> ubuntu image for raspberry, anyone?
[15:54] <laolu> anyone?
[15:54] <ikonia> laolu: can you please try to phrase stentences
[15:54] <k1l> laolu: not possible, because its armv6 and ubuntu supports just armv7 an newer
[15:54] <ikonia> laolu: what good is saying "anyone" - none
[15:54] <laolu> thanks.
[15:54] <ikonia> laolu: ask a clear question.
[15:55] <laolu> I am looking for an ubuntu image for rapberry pie, anyone?
[15:55] <Pici> laolu: There is none.
[15:55] <laolu> woops
[15:55] <k1l> laolu: #ubuntu-arm
[15:55] <Fernseher> xD
[15:55] <ActionParsnip> columb: Wubi is not a real install, it installs to an image stored i NTFS
[15:55] <laolu> thanks kil...
[15:55] <ikonia> laolu: "does anyone know if there is or were I can get an ubuntu 13.04 image for a Raspberyy pi"
[15:55] <ikonia> laolu: "rather than raspberry image anyone"
[15:56] <columb> No way to make it bootable with grub?
[15:56] <laolu> thanks for the english lesson Ikonia:)
[15:56] <Fernseher> cookies, anyone? xD
[15:56] <ActionParsnip> columb: the wubi installer will ad what is needed to the Windows boot loader and the system can boot the image if needed
[15:56] <wilee-nilee> columb, it does already sort of from the windows boot, but no not a straight grub boot.
[15:56] <ikonia> laolu: it's not funny,
[15:56] <laolu> kil, i hope the installation is as staright forward as rapbian and so?
[15:57] <k1l> laolu: please re-read what i told you.
[15:57] <blazemore> laolu: There is currently no way to run Ubuntu on a Raspberry Pi
[15:57] <k1l> laolu: there is no chance of having a ubuntu image because the ARM cpu is not supported
[15:57] <ActionParsnip> laolu: http://www.raspberrypi.org/downloads
[15:58] <rantic> k1l: So how am I running ubuntu server arm edition right now..
[15:58] <laolu> ok, i see, you got that right, thanks, really appreciate your help
[15:58] <rantic> laolu: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/arm
[15:58] <blazemore> rantic: Some ARM is supported, but not the one in Raspberry Pi
[15:58] <k1l> rantic: laolu for further arm specific questions please change to #ubuntu-arm
[15:58] <rantic> k1l: Oh, my apologies
[15:58] <laolu> thanks blaze, neither are we sure they are planning for it, ok kil
[15:59] <laolu> will do
[15:59] <ActionParsnip> laolu: you wont get adobe flash on the pi either, you will need arm based (open source) alternatives
[15:59] <AlexBell> I need the apt-key for this rep http://nightly.openerp.com/7.0/nightly/deb/ how do I find it and install it?
[15:59] <laolu> not looking for that action...thanks for ur concern
[16:00] <Fernseher> I think the ubuntu forum should raise money to protect pengiuns
[16:00] <ActionParsnip> AlexBell: if you run:   sudo apt-get update   you will get a GPG KEY missing warning, what is the 16 character hex value with it?
[16:01] <k1l> !ot | Fernseher
[16:01] <saiarcot895> Fernseher: penguins is linux
[16:01] <Fernseher> lol ok I'll stop
[16:02] <z0> \join #ubuntu-ir
[16:03] <AlexBell> ActionParsnip: I'm getting no warning except when trying to upgrade something from that rep
[16:03] <z0> \join #ubuntu_ir
[16:03] <cipherboy> z0, use forward slash: /join
[16:03] <ActionParsnip> AlexBell: what is the warning??
[16:04] <z0> tnx:]and sorry
[16:04] <AlexBell> WARNING: The following packages cannot be authenticated! openerp Install these packages without verification [y/N]? y
[16:04] <ActionParsnip> AlexBell: install it in terminal, then copy the command you ran adn ALL of the output and pastebin the text please
[16:05] <ss_haze> good morning
[16:05] <maithu> hello
[16:05] <anonee> good evening
[16:05] <Peyam> morning
[16:05] <cipherboy> Afternoon.
[16:05] <anonee> lol
[16:07] <anonee> hello room, so I did # locale-gen and got hash collision<PHONE_NUMBER>)  how can i fix that?
[16:07] <olivier_bK> hi
[16:07] <olivier_bK> do you know i can launch daemontool ,
[16:07] <olivier_bK> ?
[16:07] <ActionParsnip> olivier_bK: why would you want to?
[16:07] <blazemore> olivier_bK: How did you install it?
[16:08] <olivier_bK> i creat directory with run file
[16:08] <olivier_bK> but my application in the file nginx are not running
[16:08] <ActionParsnip> olivier_bK: what are you wanting to achieve? Ubuntu can do lots of the stuff Windows needs 3rd party tools to do
[16:08] <varunendra> olivier_bK, I don't think it'll work on Linux. It needs to create a virtual bus which may not be possible on linux for a windows software.
[16:09] <olivier_bK> i launch apt-get install ..
[16:09] <ActionParsnip> olivier_bK: do you want to mount a CD image (ISO file)?
[16:09] <varunendra> olivier_bK, daemontools is not available for Linux as far as I know.
[16:09] <olivier_bK> no i just wnt to start nginx
[16:09] <olivier_bK> svc -d /etc/service/*
[16:09] <olivier_bK> svc: warning: unable to control /etc/service/nginx: supervise not running
[16:10] <blazemore> olivier_bK: sudo service nginx start
[16:11] <blazemore> I think by "daemontool" he meant like... upstart. Not DaemonTools :P
[16:11] <olivier_bK> i dont need to launch sudo service nginx start he be launched by daemontool normaly no ?
[16:11] <blazemore> olivier_bK: What do you mean by "daemontool"?
[16:11] <ActionParsnip> olivier_bK: you do know what daemontools is...right?
[16:11] <varunendra> Yeah, figured that now ;P blazemore
[16:12] <blazemore> olivier_bK: So you are having problems trying to install nginx?
[16:12] <usr13> anonee: suod apt-get install localepurge  #And try again.
[16:12] <olivier_bK> i know  he launch everything what he have in the directory /etc/service/*
[16:12] <blazemore> olivier_bK: What are you trying to do?
[16:12] <ActionParsnip> olivier_bK: daemontools is a virtual CD software for Windows
[16:13] <anonee> usr13 localpurge ?
[16:13] <Pici> !info daemontools | ActionParsnip
[16:13] <blazemore> olivier_bK: Without using the word "daemontool", what are you *actually* trying to do? Install a web server?
[16:13] <ActionParsnip> oh, sorry, my mistake
[16:13] <usr13> !info localpurge | anonee
[16:13] <blazemore> Oh wow... TIL
[16:13] <ActionParsnip> Pici: thanks :)
[16:13] <Pici> ActionParsnip: np
[16:14] <usr13> !info localepurge | anonee
[16:14] <anonee> OMG bots :D
[16:14] <usr13> anonee: (spelling error)
[16:14] <ActionParsnip> anonee: several
[16:14] <ActionParsnip> olivier_bK: is supervise running ok?
[16:15] <anonee> but I'm not using raring, btw how on earth would someone act in this case in raring?!
[16:15] <ActionParsnip> anonee: ubottu is great, she saves us a lot of effort
[16:15] <blazemore> She?
[16:15] <ActionParsnip> !she
[16:15] <ActionParsnip> !gender
[16:15] <blazemore> I'll take your word for it lol
[16:15] <anonee> hehehe
[16:16] <anonee> :)
[16:20] <nimesh> hi can someone help me when i boot into ubuntu 12.04 lts it just goes to a black screen and i can't login
[16:21] <antonio_> heloooooooooooo
[16:21] <jaredly> looks like the keyserver's down... Anyone have status?
[16:21] <antonio_> list???????????????
[16:21] <ActionParsnip> jaredly: try a different key server
[16:21] <Sling> antonio_: what?
[16:21] <Sling> also, this is a channel, not a list
[16:21] <antonio_> ok
[16:21] <jaredly> I'I've tried a couple
[16:21] <jaredly> all fail with "keyserver error"
[16:21] <AlexBell> ActionParsnip: http://pastebin.com/f48ePEbX
[16:21] <jaredly> could that happen if there's problems with my proxy?
[16:21] <antonio_> I would like to know how it works
[16:21] <antonio_> I would like to know how this program works
[16:21] <antonio_> ???
[16:21] <usr13> anonee: What program?
[16:21] <usr13> anonee: list?  see  man list
[16:21] <Sling> I think he means IRC
[16:22] <usr13> antonio_: man list
[16:22] <Peyam> antonio_: what program?
[16:22] <theadmin> !list | antonio_
[16:22] <usr13> (sorry anonee, wrong nick)
[16:22] <anonee> usr13 that was a smile, something we humans do sometimes even when it's not the right time
[16:22] <Peyam> haha
[16:24] <ActionParsnip> AlexBell: there are scripts to import keys from PPAs you haven't imported them for
[16:25] <AlexBell> ActionParsnip: like?
[16:27] <ActionParsnip> AlexBell: can't find it right now. I suggest you contact the PPA maintainer
[16:28] <AlexBell> it isn't a ppa
[16:28] <AlexBell> now he left
[16:29] <AlexBell> it is a debian rep
[16:29] <gordonjcp> AlexBell: what exactly are you trying to do?
[16:29] <AlexBell> gordonjcp: get rid of:
[16:29] <AlexBell> WARNING: The following packages cannot be authenticated! openerp Install these packages without verification [y/N]? y
[16:32] <gordonjcp> AlexBell: when you added the OpenERP PPA, did you follow all the steps?
[16:32] <gordonjcp> AlexBell: you should have added some keys
[16:33] <gordonjcp> AlexBell: openerp is packaged in 12.04 *anyway* so it shouldn't be an issue
[16:33] <AlexBell> gordonjcp: this isn't a ppa. it is the openerp.org package. and its for debian/"ubuntu"
[16:33] <AlexBell> I need to use version 7 which isn't in the official repo
[16:34] <cipherboy> AlexBell, btw, MIT keyserver is up.
[16:34] <cipherboy> not sure what key, but try that one.
[16:34] <Frogging|work> What happens if /mnt contains folders and something tries to mount something else there?
[16:34] <AlexBell> cipherboy: ??
[16:34] <cipherboy> AlexBell, , http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?search=OpenERP&op=index  perhaps?
[16:34] <usr13> Frogging|work: You'll have more, (and it will be confusing).
[16:34] <cipherboy> Oh whoops, wrong user. Jaredly, if you are still here.
[16:35] <jaredly> yeah
[16:35] <fffree> t
[16:36] <jaredly> Turns out it was a firewall issue. ;) switching to hkp://keyserver.ubuntu.com:80 worked
[16:36] <Frogging|work> usr13: Will Ubuntu ever automatically mount something like a cd or flash drive directly in /mnt ?
[16:36] <usr13> Frogging|work: So, put those directories someplace else, or use another mount point.
[16:36] <jaredly> Thanks cipherboy
[16:36] <babinlonston> How can i backup my 3 ubuntu servers 12.04  to a backupserver which was build with centos 6.4 Any guide
[16:36] <AlexBell> cipherboy: thanks how can I find out what key?
[16:36] <Frogging|work> Or does it use subfolders?
[16:36] <usr13> Frogging|work: It will use /media
[16:36] <Frogging|work> Ah
[16:36] <Frogging|work> Forgot :P
[16:36] <Frogging|work> Thanks
[16:36] <AlexBell> this rep http://nightly.openerp.com/7.0/nightly/deb/
[16:37] <AlexBell> Changed-By: Antony Lesuisse<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[16:39] <AlexBell> cipherboy: he isn't there :(
[16:39] <usr13> Frogging|work: But even if you do want to mount something in /mnt, you can just create another sub-directory for it and mount it there.  Right?
[16:39] <cipherboy> AlexBell, Indeed, just noticed that myself. Perhaps the website has more info?
[16:39] <AlexBell> cipherboy: i wish it did. but it doesn't!
[16:39] <usr13> babinlonston: The entire filesystem(s) or _______________ ?
[16:40] <mamtina>  /join #debian-facile
[16:40] <mamtina> ooops
[16:40] <cipherboy> AlexBell, Wait, you have a deb downloaded, right? Try running dpkg-sig --list <deb.deb> to see what it turns out
[16:41] <cipherboy> Could be that that it is saying unable to authenticate _because_ it isn't signed...hence no key would help you with that.
[16:41] <gordonjcp> AlexBell: that's unlikely to work well.  Stick to the official packages ;-)
[16:41] <babinlonston> i want to backup Whole Ubuntu Server , and if there any crash i want to restore it too , after restoring i dont want to face any issue such as grub error  , so how can i backup my /  , except tmp folder and mnt folder
[16:42] <cipherboy> babinlonston, why not dd piped to gzip/lzo/xz/etc?
[16:43] <usr13> babinlonston: You could do something like: gzip < /dev/hda | ssh remote-machine "cat >system_drive_backup.img.gz"
[16:43] <cipherboy> then you could do either backup to an external medium (flash/etc), or remotely, like usr13 suggested.
[16:43] <babinlonston> i dont know that pls guide me USR13
[16:43] <Jezzz> how can I configure tntnet to process cgi script?
[16:44] <babinlonston> is it possible to backup /dev/sda1 like this
[16:45] <pundit> when i download mails with fetchmail they dont get into /var/mail/username and also nowhere else. but fetchmail verbosely tells me that they go to username@hostname. where else can they be?
[16:45] <cipherboy> babinlonston, yes you could do just the first partition, but perhaps if you want to avoid grub errors, perhaps an entire drive copy would be best.
[16:45] <usr13> babinlonston: dd if=/dev/sda2 | ssh $user@$host 'gzip - > /pub/image.gz'
[16:46] <usr13> or sda1
[16:46] <babinlonston> ok let me try now and let u know too
[16:47] <AlexBell> cipherboy: I added the rep to sources.list
[16:47] <cipherboy> AlexBell, and do you have a .deb you could test it on?
[16:48] <altermann> is there no "btrfs-progs" for ubuntu?
[16:48] <altermann> or are they called something else?
[16:48] <cipherboy> altermann, try -tools
[16:48] <altermann> thanks
[16:49] <pundit> when i download mails with fetchmail they dont get into /var/mail/username and also nowhere else. but fetchmail verbosely tells me that they go to username@hostname. where else can they be? PS: I have no $MAIL set, and some exim-configuration, which should not interfere, however
[16:55] <babinlonston> usr13: its showing some errors
[16:56] <AlexBell> cipherboy: I'll download
[16:57] <cipherboy> babinlonston, what errors?
[16:57] <babinlonston> shall i type the command what i used there
[16:57] <cipherboy> babinlonston, copy and paste the command and whatever errors you are getting.
[16:57] <glowe> Hello, need some help with my mobile broadband. Anyone who now something about usb-modeswitch?
[16:58] <meet> Hi. I shared a folder from the right click option from ubuntu. That folder contains multiple other folders. When I tried accessing it from a lubuntu machine, i got an error while opening an inside folder. What went wrong?
[16:58] <babinlonston> dd if=/dev/vda | ssh<EMAIL_ADDRESS>/tmp/image.gz'
[16:59] <cipherboy> babinlonston,  You did add a space between 6 and the apostrophe, right?
[16:59] <cipherboy> likewise, fairly sure your username does not begin with a $, so perhaps remove that too.
[16:59] <babinlonston> no
[17:00] <Sicp> I've downloaded 13.04 64-bit version and i burnt the iso, but when trying to boot it i get that Secure boot is not enabled and the DVD doesn't boot
[17:01] <cipherboy> babinlonston, then perhaps a better command would look like (on server): dd if=/dev/vda | ssh<EMAIL_ADDRESS>'gzip - > /path/to/resting/place/of/backup.gz'
[17:01] <babinlonston> its shows some like usage: ssh [-12312341234123445456vdfdn] -b bind address ] [-c cipher_spec]
[17:01] <ripplebit> guys what's the best general linux distro?
[17:01] <aimrcd> sicp, check http://forums.lenovo.com/t5/Linux-Discussion/Secure-Boot-Not-Enabled-message-upon-attempt-to-install-Ubuntu/td-p/933473, ive had similar issues
[17:02] <ubukou> hey folks.. quick question can i use make a netbook use my ubuntu pc's Cdrom via usb?
[17:02] <Sicp> Working with a Lenovo here as well
[17:02] <babinlonston> k
[17:02] <ubukou> hey folks.. quick question can i make a netbook use my ubuntu pc's Cdrom via usb?
[17:03] <DJones> ripplebit: You're asking in the #ubuntu channel, so any flavour of Ubuntu/kubuntu/lubuntu/xubuntu, if you want general advice, maybe ask in ##linux
[17:03] <ubukou> and think its an external one ? i need to use it in bios level.
[17:04] <aimrcd> ubukou, depends on your bios/hardware capabilities
[17:05] <DJones> ripplebit: You could also ask in #ubuntu-offtopic, this channel is only for Ubuntu support issues rather than general chat/discussion
[17:06] <ubukou> well its a netbook so im sure it has support for external cdrom via usb aimrcd
[17:06] <cipherboy> ubukou, let me guess, booting install medium? Why not just boot raw usb?
[17:06] <ripplebit> DJones: OK just quickly what do you think of xubuntu?
[17:06] <ubukou> aimrcd, is there a software that i can run on ubuntu to make that happen?
[17:06] <DJones> ripplebit: I don't use it myself, so I couldn't give you any specific advice on it
[17:06] <ubukou> cipherboy,aim its a 7 cd recovery image. how that ? they sold me that and the netbook has no cd rom..
[17:06] <ubukou> cipherboy, aimrcd  sony power.
[17:06] <ripplebit> DJones thanks anyway
[17:06] <cipherboy> ubukou, windows 7?
[17:06] <aimrcd> ubukou, best bet is to just plug and try
[17:06] <cipherboy> ubukou, there are tools to take cdrom to iso, and iirc, you should be able to burn iso of win7 recovery to usb.
[17:06] <vn> hi, how can I mount a network drive so that only root has access and not users?
[17:06] <aimrcd> ubukou, if you want software, try unetbootin
[17:06] <ubukou> cipherboy, aimrcd i ll have the laptop on my hands shortly, yes its windows 7. but it is a propriatary sony software that accually formats and partions your disk the way sony wants it to be.
[17:07] <FloodBot1> !netsplit
[17:07] <studious> NET SPLIT!
[17:07] <studious> AHHHHHH
[17:07] <euxneks> wuhh
[17:07] <cipherboy> ubottu, not sure, by you could at least try the usb...they should be fairly generic in layout unless sony created a whole custom install...but highly unlikely, so perhaps the usb boot would work, but not familiar with your specifics.
[17:08] <aimrcd> ubukou, honestly, you shouldn't have issues the bios should recognize the cdrom as external storage
[17:08] <ubukou> cipherboy, aimrcd i ll google them and see if i can find anything to fit my needs. until i have the laptop on my hands i cant know what will work. i hope that a simple have disk on an external harddrive will work and i wont have to use ubuntu pc as an external cd rom drive.
[17:09] <studious> netplits are Freenode earthquakes
[17:09] <Guest37623> in linux why softwares are dificult to install
[17:09] <babinlonston> cipherboy will this take all drives backup in VDA
[17:09] <studious> the tsunami comes soon after with the net join
[17:10] <ubukou> aimrcd, cipherboy i think ill there will be some problems cause its 7 cds. the installation will promt me to "insert disk 5/6/7"
[17:10] <aimrcd> Guest37623: not sure how to help you.  do you need help with specific software?
[17:10] <babinlonston> and how can i restore the backuped datas to any drive vda  or sda
[17:10] <cipherboy> babinlonston, yes. Might take a while depending on size. 6mb/s for me on raw hard drive copy, but hopefully yours will be faster.
[17:11] <aimrcd> ubukou: if you're using an exteral CD drive via usb, it shouldn't be a problem.  during boot, the bios will likely recognize the drive
[17:11] <babinlonston> Wow Superb cipherboy and please let me know how can i restore it to a sda or vda
[17:12] <d1gital> I've set up rssh on ubuntu server, and users attempting to log in, but blocked from shell access by rssh, are still being shown the System Information message.  How can I remove this?
[17:13] <cipherboy> babinlonston, To restore, you have to take the server down and manually image the disk. Perhaps a hard drive swap or something of the sort.
[17:14] <babinlonston> cant understand :(
[17:15] <holstein> babinlonston: i literally copy data over with a filemanager from a live CD.. grsync is an easy GUI for using rsync
[17:15] <d1gital> btw, /etc/ssh/sshd_config:PrintMotd no
[17:16] <babinlonston> oh ok fine fine
[17:16] <usr13> babinlonston: To place the image on the [new] drive: gzip -d < image.gz | dd of=/dev/sda2
[17:16] <cipherboy> babinlonston, well to recover, you cannot just do it "live", ie, while the system is running off of that hard disk. You would need to either to boot from a live medium (cd/etc) and do the disk image there, or perhaps pull out the hard drives and put them in another computer.
[17:16] <d1gital> found it; edited /etc/pam.d/sshd
[17:16] <babinlonston> ok
[17:17] <cipherboy> usr13, issue though is he is doing this live...sounds like he is imaging root of running server, which will work (in theory, hopefully) for the backup, but not necessarily for the restore.
[17:20] <usr13> babinlonston: you should look into using rsync
[17:20] <babinlonston> ok
[17:21] <holstein> i agree, and grsysnc is "easy" babinlonston , if you prefer a GUI
[17:21] <babinlonston> no i want CLI , cos in office only have CLI :(
[17:22] <babinlonston> and just now its finished there was a file in my desktop 10 GB file as backup.gz
[17:22] <cipherboy> babinlonston, is it only a 10GB hard drive?
[17:23] <cipherboy> Or rather, what is the size of the hard drivE?
[17:23] <babinlonston> no its virtual machine
[17:23] <cipherboy> Ah, explains. 10GB might be about right then.
[17:23] <babinlonston> its 15 GB
[17:23] <cipherboy> then reimaging it should be easy.
[17:23] <usr13> babinlonston: http://www.thegeekstuff.com/2010/09/rsync-command-examples/
[17:23] <babinlonston> :(
[17:24] <babinlonston> k
[17:26] <olivier_bK> how to install a software in busybox?
[17:27] <Frogging|work> What happened to Nautilus? It's changed, and it's bad.
[17:27] <holstein> Frogging|work: "bad" is a matter of opinion.. do you have a support question?
[17:28] <Frogging|work> Well, what happened to it? Why is it changed?
[17:28] <Frogging|work> For example, I can't type into the window anymore and have it highlight files that start with what I typed
[17:28] <Frogging|work> Maybe there's an alternative file manager?
[17:29] <navetz> Hi, I have an amazon ec2 ubuntu instance running. When I ssh into my instance I am attempting to ftp into another server to do create a backup script. I am not able to ftp into the server, I keep getting 426 Transfer failed. I've googled for a long time and haven't found the solution yet
[17:30] <navetz> am I possibly missing some ftp configs in ubuntu?
[17:30] <Surye> is there any way in byobu to DC all other sessions? I hate leaving it on at home connected and having a tiny screen at work and having to manually kill off the ssh session
[17:30] <Surye> kirkland: if you're around specificly since I see you in the man page :)
[17:31] <kirkland> Surye: I added Alt-F6 to do that, in a recent byobu version
[17:31] <Surye> kirkland: Awesome, I'll see about updating. Thanks
[17:31] <cipherboy> navetz, why not use sftp?
[17:31] <kirkland> Surye: added in 5.38
[17:32] <navetz> cipherboy: it's not my server i'm trying to ftp into
[17:33] <cipherboy> navetz, I realize that. Perhaps check types?
[17:33] <navetz> cipherboy: what do you mean by types? I think i've found it might be an amazon ec2 security group thing
[17:33] <Sakuya> hey, all
[17:34] <whoever> hi all, i need some assistance, i have a logiteck quickcam 5000pro but the  ubuntu seems to forget about it after a while. for example, if i restart my box , i can run my webcam, but if i say wait an hour after closeing cheeser or running gstreamer-properties, the webcam is never found
[17:34] <Sakuya> I can't seem to get Ubuntu to boot with secure boot enabled.  The installer boots fine, but it refuses to boot into the install unless I disable secure boot
[17:34] <Sakuya> and secure boot seems to work in Mint, any ideas?
[17:35] <FloodBot1> !netsplit
[17:37] <cipherboy> navetz, ah, whoops, forgot about those. Possibly thinking of file transfer types (iirc, doesn't ftp support like ascii and binary), but take a look at security groups.
[17:38] <navetz> cipherboy: i will, but i'm pretty lost right now lol
[17:38] <Sakuya> dunno if this got through with the netsplit...
[17:38] <Sakuya> I can't seem to get Ubuntu to boot with secure boot enabled.  The installer boots fine, but it refuses to boot into the install unless I disable secure boot, but it works fine in Mint, any ideas?
[17:41] <cipherboy> navetz, sorry, my bad. did security groups fix it?
[17:42] <WACOMalt_> Hey folks. I am running wine in a headless environement, trying to install Mono210
[17:42] <cipherboy> Sakuya, I was just looking into that the other day for a user, let me see if I can dig up the link. What system though?
[17:42] <WACOMalt_> when I run winetricks mono210 I get errors about xserver
[17:42] <navetz> cipherboy: nope not yet. I'm not sure which ports I need to open for ftp.
[17:42] <Sakuya> Running on an Alienware M17x R4
[17:42] <cipherboy> navetz, iirc, isn't it 21?
[17:43] <cipherboy> yeah, 21 is ftp
[17:43] <navetz> cipherboy: yes, I have 21 open
[17:43] <roothorick> WACOMalt_: wine pretty much requires an X server of some description. said X server need not necessarily be on the local machine -- look into X forwarding via SSH
[17:43] <navetz> cipherboy: but I think they use some other ones for acknowledgement
[17:44] <WACOMalt_> roothorick, alas. I have done that before and it is certainly way too much effort for my end.
[17:44] <WACOMalt_> Thanks for the answer though
[17:44] <cipherboy> Sakuya, http://www.rodsbooks.com/efi-bootloaders/secureboot.html
[17:44] <roothorick> WACOMalt_: there's X servers that act as simply a VNC/RDP server but they're even more work to set up...
[17:44] <verses_> hi
[17:44] <ocx> hello
[17:44] <ocx> i am tring to compile my new kernel and getting this error: http://pastebin.com/HkHbidd9
[17:45] <WACOMalt_> roothorick, Yeah, I'm on windows, so hosting an XServer here is gonna be a pain :P doable, but a pain. the server is ubuntu obviously
[17:45] <cipherboy> WACOMalt_, roothorick could you tunnel X over say, ssh?
[17:45] <WACOMalt_> I could, but again Id still need an xserver running locally on windows
[17:45] <verses_> I can't boot into ubuntu 2d desktop. I am using 12.04 and recently I had to switch to ubuntu plain. What could be the issue?
[17:46] <verses_> Every time I login it
[17:46] <roothorick> WACOMalt_: they make X servers for windows...
[17:46] <cipherboy> True.
[17:46] <roothorick> which, yeah, it is a bit of setup
[17:46] <WACOMalt_> they do, and they all are terrible
[17:46] <WACOMalt_> :)
[17:46] <verses_> Every time I login , it's the same ubuntu plain desktop  I see
[17:46] <WACOMalt_> Im just gonna make a small windows VM for this purpose, it'll be easier and run better
[17:47] <cipherboy> WACOMalt_, have the reverse option, create tiny vm of linux and do the reverse too.
[17:47] <roothorick> WACOMalt_: if your proc has VT-x/AMD-V it may actually be faster too
[17:47] <Quest> hi, does this pen http://www.amazon.com/Genius-Wireless-Pen-Mouse/dp/B004R1PWCO   works on linux and will it show the writing on the desktop in some paint application as live as i draw?
[17:47] <cipherboy> Good point.
[17:47] <roothorick> WACOMalt_: protip: QEMU. VirtualBox / VMWare are an utter BITCH to set up on a headless machine, and QEMU is faster anyway
[17:48] <verses_> hello bazhang
[17:48] <WACOMalt_> ok I'll keep that in mind
[17:48] <WACOMalt_> thank you roothorick and cipherboy
[17:48] <Sakuya> I was just wondering how well qemu/kvm worked versus vbox and vmware
[17:48] <verses_> bazhang , I hope you can find me the solution for this - I can't boot into ubuntu 2d desktop. I am using 12.04 and recently I had to switch to ubuntu plain. What could be the issue?
[17:48] <WACOMalt_> actually thats another question.. on a headless server, with say, qemu, I install windows 7, how do I control it?
[17:49] <WACOMalt_> or would I need to install windows server of some sort and have that be headless as well?
[17:49] <roothorick> Sakuya: it's easier to setup generally, if you like CLI. It's also significantly faster for CPU and I/O heavy stuff. Primary downside? Graphics acceleration is completely nonexistent.
[17:49] <roothorick> i.e. it can't run gnome-shell or unity, period
[17:49] <roothorick> too slow for even llvmpipe
[17:50] <roothorick> as a rule, QEMU for servers, VirtualBox for desktops
[17:50] <vn> why not vmware for servers
[17:51] <WACOMalt_> that costs money doesnt it?
[17:51] <roothorick> vn: QEMU is straight-up open source, and might actually be faster
[17:51] <vn> blah...if its a criteria, ok
[17:51] <roothorick> it kinda surprises me how snappy my W7 VM on my server is
[17:52] <WACOMalt_> so for a headless server what flavor of windows should I be installing?
[17:52] <WACOMalt_> windows server 2008 ?
[17:52] <vn> E_WRONGCHANNEL
[17:52] <WACOMalt_> windows headless server running in qemu on UBUNTU
[17:52] <roothorick> WACOMalt_: hope you've got plenty of RAM... anything newer than XP / Server 2K3 will really struggle with <2GB
[17:52] <WACOMalt_> E_ThereIsNoRightChannel
[17:53] <roothorick> WACOMalt_: that said, I'm running W7 Ultimate and the lack of graphic support doesn't seem to affect it much. No aero but the UI is still pretty fast
[17:53] <WACOMalt_> is this in a graphical environment or headless?
[17:54] <roothorick> headless, using QEMU's built-in VNC server
[17:54] <WACOMalt_> aahh so thats how it works
[17:54] <WACOMalt_> ok cool I'll do win7 then
[17:54] <WACOMalt_> thanks folks for the help
[17:54] <Quest> do i need a tablet like http://www.amazon.com/dp/B000LEI95I    or just a pen like  http://www.amazon.com/Genius-Wireless-Pen-Mouse/dp/B004R1PWCO    . whats the difference in _functionality_
[17:54] <roothorick> I custom-compiled it on debian though
[17:55] <WACOMalt_> Ok, I'm off
[17:55] <WACOMalt_> cya and thasnks folks
[17:55] <roothorick> Quest: I would not trust that pen. It's not going to detect hand movements that take the point off the paper.
[17:56] <roothorick> Quest: also the pen will never know its position, only whether it is moving. Tablets will pick up absolute position, even when the pen isn't making contact
[17:57] <Quest> roothorick,  hm
[17:57] <Quest> what about finger mouse?
[17:58] <WACOMalt_> one more question roothorick, should I do x64 or x86 windows? I havent done much virtualization, and dont know how it handles that
[17:58] <roothorick> Quest: if you want to do any kind of graphical/drawing work you will very very much so want a full-blown tablet
[17:58] <roothorick> WACOMalt_: on the host, check the flags in /proc/cpuinfo. Let me look up the thing
[17:59] <WACOMalt_> how.. do I check those flags? :X
[17:59] <Quest> roothorick,  ok so the tablet link i pasted is good?
[17:59] <WACOMalt_> 4 cores
[18:00] <roothorick> Quest: I'm not really sure about quality. I only know the theory and I know there's been a certan rebellion against Wacom because their pens have questionable pressure sensitivity
[18:00] <roothorick> *certain
[18:00] <roothorick> WACOMalt_: under "flags", if you have "svm" or "vmx" use 64bit, otherwise 32bit
[18:01] <roothorick> WACOMalt_: also if you have the right flag pass --enable-kvm to qemu
[18:01] <asdfman> How do I install wine on my Ubuntu 12.10 x64 desktop?
[18:01] <WACOMalt_> ok I have VMX listed
[18:01] <asdfman> I'm a windows user..
[18:01] <verses_> asdfman, have you tried sudo apt-get install wine?
[18:01] <ocx> guys, i am not able to update my ubunt...
[18:01] <ocx> W: Failed to fetch http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/karmic-security/multiverse/source/Sources.gz  404  Not Found [IP: <IP_ADDRESS> 80]
[18:02] <ocx> like 50 erris of such wuen doign ap-get update
[18:02] <asdfman> verses yes but that returned an error saying Some applications could not be installed. Ended with "the following packages have unmet dependencies : wine:depends:wine1.4"
[18:02] <ikonia> ocx: it means that repo is not responding
[18:02] <ocx> what to do?
[18:02] <ikonia> ocx: well, you're using karmic
[18:02] <ikonia> ocx: so he's probably removed the repo
[18:03] <ocx> and?
[18:03] <ikonia> ocx: karmic is end of life, so probably been deleted from that repo
[18:03] <bazhang> !eolupgrades | ocx
[18:03] <WACOMalt_> is there a way using wget or curl to download a file from a page that does redirection? For example a site like download.php&id=1172
[18:04] <ikonia> WACOMalt_: It should follow it
[18:04] <asdfman> verses_ yes but that returned an error saying Some applications could not be installed. Ended with "the following packages have unmet dependencies : wine:depends:wine1.4"
[18:04] <verses_> asdfman, I am not sure what that is  as I am also a normal user, what you can do is -           sudo apt-get update      and try the above command again   :)
[18:04] <WACOMalt_> ikonia, this is my path: https://fp-pr1.ds.microsoft.com/TransferFile/FileTransfer.dll?Cmd=1&MN=1354406671&Dir=1&Mode=0&Off=0&TS=71CFB061-C40B-40EF-8EC4-0D9CF2378B49&CVN=5,0,0,32
[18:04] <ocx> ikonia: 2.6.31-14-generic #48-Ubuntu
[18:04] <ikonia> OxDeadC0de: so ?
[18:04] <ikonia> ocx: so ? I didn't ask for your kernel version
[18:04] <verses_> asdfman,  I know how frustrating it is to wait for hours and no one pays attention to your question , that's what I am dealing right now
[18:05] <ocx> thought that would helphyuo
[18:05] <Blizzbob> virtual machine of ubuntu lagging: is the reason, that the .vdi is on an external usb 2.0 harddrive ??
[18:05] <ikonia> ocx: I've already told you the problem
[18:05] <Pici> ocx: The version of Ubuntu that you are using is no longer supported, and has not been supported since 2011.
[18:05] <ikonia> !wine | asdfman
[18:05] <ocx> ok
[18:05] <ocx> its ubuntu 12,05
[18:05] <ocx> 04
[18:06] <ikonia> ocx: youre repos are pointing at karmik
[18:06] <ikonia> karmic even
[18:06] <Pici> ocx: What does the output of lsb_release -d say?
[18:07] <asdfman> ikonia h....how do I open the software center?
[18:07] <asdfman> thank you verses_
[18:08] <ikonia> asdfman: https://help.ubuntu.com may give you an overview on the basics of using ubuntu
[18:09] <asdfman> thank you ikonia
[18:10] <ikonia> hope that helps
[18:10] <verses_> how often should I repeat my question?
[18:10] <ikonia> verses_: 15 minutes or so
[18:11] <verses_> do you know why I can't login into unity2d Desktop? I am using ubuntu12.04
[18:11] <verses_> it takes me to plain desktop
[18:12] <WACOMalt_> is there any CLI web browser that supports logging into websites? I have triend links elinks and w3m on technet.microsoft.com
[18:12] <WACOMalt_> all say I need to enable javascript
[18:13] <ciatron> Hello, I was thinking of buying an ultrabook (maybe the samsung ativ book 9 plus or the sony vaio pro 13), can you please tell me how is the support for touchscreen on ubuntu?
[18:13] <ikonia> WACOMalt_: I don't think thats the login, I think that's all the plugins/activeX objects failing
[18:13] <WACOMalt_> isnt activex only IE?
[18:13] <ikonia> WACOMalt_: yes
[18:13] <WACOMalt_> cause I use the site all the time on a graphical linux via chrome
[18:13] <verses_> could be javascript
[18:13] <WACOMalt_> so.. not activex
[18:13] <ikonia> WACOMalt_: you seem to be missing the point of what I'm saying
[18:14] <WACOMalt_> which is?
[18:14] <ikonia> WACOMalt_: it won't be the login it's self, it will be the objects within the website not designed for text based browsers
[18:14] <WACOMalt_> the page displays fine aside from being able to log in, so that seems unlikely to me
[18:15] <ikonia> WACOMalt_: well, considering I've logged into multiple basic sites with lynx, I suspect you're mistaken,
[18:15] <ikonia> WACOMalt_: but if this is such a problem, I'd suggest not using a text based browser and use a fully supported graphical one
[18:15] <WACOMalt_> on a headless server, eh?
[18:16] <ikonia> WACOMalt_: use a remote session sure, or download elsewhere and move to the server
[18:16] <WACOMalt_> its completely possible that you are right, Its just that the page specifically tells me that its javascript issue
[18:16] <ikonia> WACOMalt_: javascript....there you go
[18:16] <ikonia> WACOMalt_: not the login
[18:16] <WACOMalt_> yeah like I said...
[18:16] <WACOMalt_> "<WACOMalt_> all say I need to enable javascript"
[18:16] <ikonia> WACOMalt_: so that's your problem, text based browsers won't support that
[18:17] <WACOMalt_> elinks says it does, but it doesnt
[18:17] <riaz> guyz.. please help me.. i dont like this side bar in ubuntu 12.10... help me to rollback this into old pannelsremove
[18:17] <ikonia> WACOMalt_: may not support the version of the script
[18:17] <WACOMalt_> well if that's that, then I'll give up on this approach. Thanks for the help
[18:17] <WACOMalt_> just my local internet is crap, didnt want to have to download 3GB file and send it from myself to the server
[18:17] <WACOMalt_> that will take all day
[18:20] <a5m0> where can i find runuser? i have coreutils installed but runuser is still not found?
[18:21] <mireya> hel
[18:21] <mireya> help
[18:22] <mireya> hello
[18:22] <Pici> !ask
[18:23] <verses_> !patience
[18:23] <mireya> spanish
[18:23] <mireya> hiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii !!
[18:23] <DJones> !es | mireya
[18:24] <mireya> ok gracias
[18:27] <Sector_0> hey
[18:27] <stein> Does anybody know webcamstudio/gstreamer here?
[18:27] <stein> ANYBODY?!
[18:27] <stein> Movie Error:  BaseSrc: [filesrc1],3, Resource not found.
[18:27] <stein> Movie Error:  BaseSrc: [filesrc1],3, Resource not found.
[18:27] <stein> what does this error mean?
[18:28] <FloodBot1> stein: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:28] <stein> I am trying to play a movie in webcamstudio but it doesn't show up, it gives me this error.
[18:28] <stein> it's an .avi
[18:29] <ciatron> Hello, I was thinking of buying an ultrabook (maybe the samsung ativ book 9 plus or the sony vaio pro 13), can you please tell me how is the support for touchscreen on ubuntu? should i expect any issues?
[18:29] <stein> ciatron, do you know webcamstudio
[18:29] <trism> a5m0: runuser looks like a fedora patch, it isn't in upstream coreutils (and coreutils removed su anyway which it was based upon)
[18:30] <ciatron> stein: no
[18:30] <ciatron> stein: can't help you mate
[18:30] <stein> :(
[18:30] <T4CFantasy> what gpus do you guys have
[18:31] <bazhang> !ot | T4CFantasy
[18:31] <T4CFantasy> yes i know but you guys can answer these questions while noone is asking for help
[18:31] <Sector_0> I've noticed that before I first install the proprietary ATI binary for my ati radeon 5500hd redwood...the help box for the icons at the side are black, and after I installed the proprietary driver, it turns gray and looks a little different, but I had some issues with the driver and I (think) I fixed it and now the box is black again
[18:31] <bazhang> T4CFantasy, dont ask here
[18:32] <verses_> I asked for help ! so please ...
[18:32] <Sector_0> is this some kinda of graphic feature that is only enable when a 'decent' graphics card is enabled?
[18:32] <Sector_0> and if so does that mean that the proprietary driver isn't installed correctly?
[18:35] <a5m0> trism: that is unfortunate, can you suggest any alternatives for running commands from a shell script run as root?
[18:37] <OerHeks> a5m0, you can run a script as root, not some commands from that script, it is all, or none, AFAIK. see http://askubuntu.com/questions/153402/run-bash-script-as-root
[18:39] <a5m0> OerHeks: unless you could use the runuser command :/
[18:39] <a5m0> or maybe calling some subscripts with different setuid?
[18:39] <OerHeks> a5m0, trism explained why you cannot.
[18:40] <a5m0> OerHeks: "could use"
[18:41] <a5m0> i am suprised about them removing su though, since that seems to still work on all my boxes
[18:42] <Pici> a5m0: no one has removed su.
[18:43] <Alucard__> Hello  - i desperatly need some input  .. i tried ubuntu 13.04 on a live usb - my system is a windows 7 system. I pressed install ubuntu  (no option to have it dualboot) and came to the install process of setting timer. Realized i want to have it dual boot - took back all the way to live cd again.. then i tried to boot up windows - and it seems my mbr is gone.
[18:43] <a5m0> Pici: just quoting trism " and coreutils removed su anyway which it was based upon "
[18:43] <Alucard__> This is my fixk my mbr log - http://paste.ubuntu.com/5881745/
[18:45] <Alucard__> can anyone help me  .. how do i fix my mbr and get back to my windows .. so i can dual boot win/ubuntu
[18:48] <dhaval> hi
[18:49] <mariusz_> ave
[18:50] <dhaval> i had an question
[18:50] <mariusz_> ?
[18:50] <dhaval> lkkj
[18:50] <Pici> !ask
[18:50] <dhaval> where to report root exploit
[18:51] <mariusz_> !patience
[18:51] <k1l> dhaval: file a bug. but besides using irc as root isnt suggested either
[18:51] <k1l> !bug | dhaval
[18:52] <dhaval> thanks
[18:53] <nurow> hallos. Question. What is the easiest way to create an icon in the Unity launcher bar for a WINE application? I've tried searching for it and dragging and dropping it, but it disappears after I reboot
[18:53] <stein> suck my cock, nurow
[18:53] <skeuomorf> guys, so I read that the new kernel (version 3.10) is out and that it has support for AMD hybrid graphics, I have Ubuntu 12.10 with 3.5.0-36-generic kernel, I wanna upgrade my kernel to 3.10, how do I do that without breaking anything in my system?
[18:54] <Xaseron> can i dd the ubuntu server iso directly to an usb stick?
[18:54] <nurow> wow
[18:54] <nurow> stein, what is your problem?
[18:54] <k1l> nurow: he got already kicked out. dont mind the trolls
[18:55] <nurow> k
[18:55] <trism> a5m0: su is still available, ours is in the shadow source package, I mean upstream coreutils removed their su
[18:56] <OerHeks> Xaseron, sure, sudo dd if=/path/to/your.iso of=/dev/sd[THAT 1 LETTER]
[18:59] <lmat> I have an external monitor hooked up to my laptop. How do I find its output name from xrandr?
[18:59] <lmat> xrandr only shows LVDS :(
[19:00] <przemek> hello do you know hot to set in megaraid bios, single HDD to be visible in ubuntu? i have raid 0 and i have added one more HDD
[19:00] <przemek> and i want to see this disk like a single
[19:03] <lmat> Does xrandr read xorg.conf ? How do they cooperate ? If I set a setting in xrandr, is it reflected in xorg.conf ?
[19:10] <vlad_starkov> Question: Having RAID1 on 12.04 I just found out that sdb is failed now. `ls /dev/ | grep sdb` show only sdb, but it should show sdb sdb1 sdb2. Anyone know what's going on?
[19:10] <sl3ax> Hi to all. How can i set the default webcam to use in flash websites , if I have more than one?
[19:11] <nurow> hallos. Question. What is the easiest way to create an icon in the Unity launcher bar for a WINE application?  If I have to search for an app I installed, and I then Click on that app, I don't think I really need to click a separate Launch button, launching is kind of implied.
[19:14] <Voi> can i *execute* java commands in the terminal (System.out.println("hallo world"))
[19:14]  * bladernr_ is running saucy, FWIW
[19:15] <Fuchs> Voi: indirectly. You have to compile it (javac or similar) and then have java execute the resulting class file. You can technically put that in one single line, but it's a bit hacky. Why?
[19:15] <iceroot> Voi: not like you do with bash scripts
[19:15] <Fuchs> (if you are looking for a dynamic interpreter such as python offers: no, since java is not an interpreted language)
[19:15] <Voi> ok thanks
[19:16] <k1l> bladernr_: for unstable support better ask in #ubuntu+1
[19:16] <gonfi> my hosting provider gave me a static ip for my vbox vm, and a mac address so they route the traffic directly to it. anyone familiar with that?
[19:16] <gonfi> i follow their guide for setting this up but fail
[19:18] <netlar> Is there a detailed guide for the inner workings of Ubuntu?
[19:18] <trism> a5m0: though it seems runuser is in upstream util-linux now, so if bug 1012081 gets fixed before oct, might show up in saucy (as an aside)
[19:18] <bazhang> !manual | netlar
[19:19] <bazhang> !rute | netlar and this
[19:19] <Spee_Der> Good day everyone.... ..
[19:20] <Jagst3r15> I do not understand this
[19:21] <Jagst3r15> I added the ppa to add source in software sources
[19:21] <Jagst3r15> https://launchpad.net/~webupd8team/+archive/sublime-text-2
[19:21] <Jagst3r15> now what??
[19:21] <netlar> Thanks, I want to get to know all the details of the OS, not just a broad overview
[19:21] <iceroot> netlar: "all" the details is alot
[19:22] <nurow> hallos. Question. What is the easiest way to create an icon in the Unity launcher bar for a WINE application? I've tried searching for it and dragging and dropping it, but it disappears after I reboot
[19:22] <netlar> iceroot: I know, just want to really dive in. I know I can just get to know linux in general, but really want to know the specifics of this distro
[19:23] <netlar> Want to try to be an expert of my own OS as it were
[19:23] <Jagst3r15> please anyone?
[19:23] <Spee_Der> Jagst3r15 now that you added the source, I'm not sure if you are in a terminal or not, but if in terminal sudo apt-get update
[19:23] <Voi> im running 04.13 with gnome3 and alt+tab reacts quite slowly, is that normal?
[19:23] <Jezzz> how can I show the boot services log?  they fly by too quickly at startup and I think one of them is throwing an error.
[19:23] <iceroot> netlar: then install the system and start hacking around with the system
[19:23] <holstein> nurow: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UnityLaunchersAndDesktopFiles#Adding_a_.desktop_file_to_the_Unity_Launcher http://askubuntu.com/questions/13758/how-can-i-edit-create-new-launcher-items-in-unity-by-hand
[19:23] <Spee_Der> Jagst3r15 sorry I am slow at typing....
[19:24] <netlar> iceroot: yes I know, been doing that, but also do not want to be poking around in the dard
[19:24] <holstein> Jezzz: ppa's are not officially supported.. what is the issue?
[19:24] <holstein> Jezzz: sorry
[19:24] <holstein> Jagst3r15: ^^
[19:24] <Jezzz> :)
[19:24] <netlar> dark*
[19:24] <iceroot> netlar: apt-get is a good start to know something about debian/ubuntu specific
[19:24] <Jagst3r15> now I should see Sublime Text in the software center?
[19:24] <iceroot> netlar: unity and upstart are ubuntu-specific, so you should also have a look
[19:25] <netlar> iceroot: That will tell me about this distro?
[19:25] <iceroot> netlar: ?
[19:25] <netlar> apt-get
[19:25] <iceroot> !apt | netlar
[19:25] <iceroot> netlar: for details see "man apt-get"
[19:25] <holstein> Jagst3r15: there are detailed instructions at http://www.webupd8.org/2011/03/sublime-text-2-ubuntu-ppa.html
[19:25] <netlar> ok thanks
[19:26] <Spee_Der> Jagst3r15 I think yes. I have added several PPA's for me needs and requirements as needed for development....
[19:26] <isiah_s> I am installing a driver from source, where should I extract the tarball?
[19:27] <holstein> Jagst3r15: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install sublime-text sublime-text-dev
[19:27] <Spee_Der> <<-- is on the phone with customer again....
[19:27] <holstein> isiah_s: i would follow the instructions at the site where you got the package.. what are you installing that is not in the stock repos?
[19:27] <k1l> !ppa | Jagst3r15
[19:28] <isiah_s> holstein: I am installing a NIc card that is brand new and supports some features out of the norm such as iscsi offloading. After speaking to applications they told me that the only way is to build from source.
[19:29] <holstein> isiah_s: then, they should provide you support? correct?
[19:29] <holstein> isiah_s: otherwise, you can pastebin a readme if you need help parsing the data
[19:29] <tasos77> can i ask please?
[19:30] <Pici> tasos77: don't ask to ask, just ask.
[19:30] <isiah_s> holstein: its a timezone thing, I cant reach them now. I thik I shoudl extrat it into a junk folder for now and see the README file for a proper location. Would that work?
[19:30] <holstein> isiah_s: sounds like a great start
[19:30] <tasos77> hello
[19:31] <rantic1> tasos77: Hi
[19:31] <tasos77> i cant run kde partition on ubuntu
[19:31] <rantic> tasos77: Ubuntu or Kubuntu? and what do you mean by can't run? nothing happens at all? an error message pops up?
[19:32] <tasos77> i have problem with the password and i starts without administrative privileges
[19:32] <tasos77> ubuntu
[19:32] <tasos77> but i am administrator
[19:32] <holstein> tasos77: http://askubuntu.com/questions/24006/how-do-i-reset-a-lost-administrative-password
[19:33] <tasos77> i know my password
[19:33] <tasos77> i can authenticate to install programs
[19:33] <xjrn> im trying to learn what restrictions /etc/init.d/couchdb would impose on couchdb that would cause repeatable apparent memory constraints that do not occur when running the same program manually
[19:33] <k1l> tasos77:  it should be the same password as your users password
[19:33] <rantic> tasos77: That's authentication with gksu, which is probably set to sudo mode -- it doesn't mean you're acting as root
[19:34] <holstein> tasos77: sounds like you dont have a problem
[19:34] <tasos77> yes i enter my user password but not works
[19:34] <rantic> tasos77: It says it's wrong?
[19:34] <tasos77> how i find root password?
[19:34] <holstein> tasos77: then, you can recover it, via the link i gave
[19:35] <k1l> tasos77: there is no root password in ubuntu
[19:35] <tasos77> so why kde asks for it?
[19:35] <tasos77> kde partition
[19:35] <bekks> KDE doesnt. KDE asks for the password of the administrative user.
[19:36] <tasos77> are u sure beks?
[19:36] <holstein> tasos77: try it and see
[19:37] <tasos77> administrative user is the same as the administrator?
[19:37] <bekks> tasos77: I am.
[19:38] <tasos77> i enter my password but it says cant run command...
[19:38] <holstein> tasos77: what command?
[19:38] <bekks> tasos77: Whats the full and exact message?
[19:38] <iceroot> tasos77: administrator is very user which is allowed to use sudo. and sudo will grant you root-access but you can not login as root directly, just start something as root with sudo
[19:39] <rantic> sudo != root, stop confusing him
[19:39] <k1l> where sudo should not be used for GUI programs. and not for everyprogram
[19:39] <iceroot> rantic: there is nothing wrong in my example
[19:39] <iceroot> rantic: as i said, sudo will grant you root-access
[19:40] <tasos77> what i have to write on terminal to run kde partition?
[19:40] <iceroot> tasos77: you are talking about gparted?
[19:40] <tasos77> i want resize one partition with kde partition program
[19:41] <rantic> I think he's talking about KDE Partition Manager, or PartitionMan IIRC
[19:41] <holstein> if we are clarifying, what is a KDE partition? one that has a kubuntu install on it?
[19:41] <tasos77> yes rantic
[19:41] <tasos77> kde partion manager
[19:41] <tasos77> partition
[19:41] <rantic> tasos77: The terminal command to run it should be partitionmanager
[19:42] <tasos77> sudo partionmanager ? to type?
[19:42] <Jagst3r15> any idea how to execute a run.sh file>
[19:42] <iceroot> tasos77: gksudo gparted   and when gparted is not installed (command not found) install it first with sudo apt-get install gparted
[19:42] <rantic> tasos77: Could you first try running 'partitionmanager' and if that fails, 'gksu partitionmanager'
[19:42] <rantic> gksudo* sorry
[19:42] <iceroot> Jagst3r15: chmod +x filename  and then ./filename
[19:42] <netlar> Is it bad to have ppa's?
[19:42] <holstein> or is it kdesu ?
[19:43] <rantic> netlar: Nope
[19:43] <bekks> holstein: In KDE, its kdesu
[19:43] <bekks> netlar: Depends. They arent supported in here.
[19:43] <tasos77> sorry cant understand...
[19:43] <netlar> rantic: as long as I trust them right?
[19:43] <iceroot> netlar: they are not supported, you have to trust the software which is coming from there and it can break your system because it will mess up dependencies
[19:43] <k1l> !ppa | netlar
[19:44] <tasos77> plzz because i dont know commands does anyone know exactly what to write?
[19:44] <rantic> netlar: PPA's can be thought of as firefox add-on or chrome extensions. Obviously some can break things ... but for the most part you're safe.
[19:44] <bekks> tasos77: You just have been told the commands, dont you? :)
[19:44] <netlar> How about the conky manager? Is that ok?
[19:45] <rantic> netlar: Absolutely.
[19:45] <holstein> netlar: "ok" and "good" are going to be matters of opinion.. would i run a conky ppa? sure.. are ppa's a potential risk? yes
[19:46] <Spr1ng> I'm investigating setting up an FTP server but not sure which program to go with.  Anybody have any suggestions on a decent FTP server service that is easy to administer?
[19:46] <rantic> netlar: You're usually fairly safe with a PPA that well known ... especially one that provides it's source. We don't have nearly as many risks in the open source community because we can actually see if malicious code has been put forward.
[19:46] <Spr1ng> Running 12.10 LTS
[19:46] <holstein> Spr1ng: can you use ssh?
[19:46] <Spr1ng> yea
[19:46] <netlar> rantic: Got to love that
[19:46] <holstein> Spr1ng: thats what i would do.. ssh server, and connect sftp or whatever
[19:46] <rantic> Spr1ng: vsftpd
[19:47] <k1l> Spr1ng: dont use ftp, that is old and insecure. use sftp with the ssh service
[19:47] <AaronMT> !gutsy
[19:47] <Spr1ng> hmmm never heard of that before....
[19:47] <Spr1ng> I'll read up a bit before diving in.
[19:48] <k1l> !sftp | Spr1ng
[19:48] <rantic> Spr1ng: I like Holsteins suggestion better unless this is a private network, then I'd recommend ftp for greater performance
[19:48] <holstein> yeah, if its on a local lan, you might not care about ftp issues
[19:49] <Spr1ng> It'll be web-based so security is a good thing to have in place.  I'm liking this suggestion so far but need to understand how it works.
[19:49] <rantic> netlar: A good rule of thumb is not to add any PPA's that don't seem to have a following of a few hundred users ... and it never hurts to simply google them and see if someone mentioned something badi n the past
[19:50] <rantic> Spr1ng: Then you'd absolutely want to go with holsteins suggestion of SSH. The long story short is that FTP  transfers data unencrypted (even your passwords), whilst SSH encrypts this communication. There are other differences but that would be the main differential between the two.
[19:50] <Spr1ng> rantic: That's some solid info.
[19:52] <Petty> Hey guys, could somebody help me, I got a really hard problem
[19:52] <rantic> Spr1ng: If I could recommend: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSH and https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/serverguide/openssh-server.html, that should point you in the right direction.
[19:52] <Spr1ng> rantic: Awesome, I do have SSH access to my server so this sounds like a solid solution.
[19:53] <vlt> Petty: I can help: You need a quite good solution.
[19:54] <dak0> Hello, how can I check when my Ubuntu OS is installed?
[19:54] <rantic_> dak0: Do you mean when you first installed Ubuntu or when the install process completed?
[19:55] <Petty> I did install ubuntu 13-04 and now my computer keeps shutting down all time
[19:55] <rantic_> Petty: Hm?
[19:55] <dak0> rantic_: to be more specific I want to know how many years passed since I switched over linux
[19:55] <rantic_> dak0: The only option I see is checking the age of your file system
[19:56] <Petty> I just moved into Linux so a friend of mine recommended me to install Ubuntu, I download and install the lastest versin which is 13-04
[19:56] <Petty> And now my lapt shuts down... all time!
[19:56] <dak0> rantic_: Right click > Propertis but I can't see date there
[19:57] <dak0> Petty: Are you sure the Laptop is not overheating?
[19:57] <rantic> dak0: Try tune2fs -l /dev/sdXX  | grep cr
[19:57] <sere> Petty: when does it shutdown?
[19:57] <rantic> dak0: Where sdXX is the hard drive and partition you originally installed on
[19:58] <Petty> first time around 15 minutes after turning on... since then less than that