  JonathanD you are up extra early, today.
[12:44] <InHisName> 5am pretty early for you too, rmg51
[12:44] <InHisName> Good Morning everybody
[12:44] <JonathanD> Yeah, a bit.
[12:57] <rmg51> normal for me
[14:50] <jedijf> release party?
[14:50] <jedijf> 8 days left til release
[15:18] <rmg51>  can't do anything in the evening
[15:18] <ChinnoDog> morning
[15:26]  * ChinnoDog reminisces about 4.3gb server class SCSI drives and 400MB tape backups
[15:28] <ChinnoDog> thems were the days
[15:28] <JonathanD> You are welcome to continue using those things.
[15:30] <ChinnoDog> I don't have them anymore. The 4.3gb server drive came with a 5 year warranty. Around year four the server became loud with a metallic whirring sound. Each time I would boot up my computer it would hesistate more before finally spinning up. Eventually it became really slow and then stopped spinning up altogether. I replaced it under RMA but it was long obsolete.
[15:31] <ChinnoDog> It was a double height 3.25" drive


[10:28] <bobweaver> ping popey  are you around ?
[10:28] <bobweaver> how to merged to bus into one ? on lp
[10:29] <bobweaver> NM Mark as duplicate
[10:29] <bobweaver> sorry to bother you if I did
[11:24] <popey> bobweaver: happy to help! :D
[17:54] <tgm4883> mhall119, do you have any links or info on packaging that as a library?
[17:54] <tgm4883> the mythtvservices lib
[19:42] <bobweaver> ping tgm4883
[19:52] <bobweaver> tgm4883,  my question for you or anyone http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FAYVJlUHU8
[19:58] <mhall119> tgm4883: usually as long as you have a good setup.py, the debhelper tools will do the right thing
[19:58] <mhall119> I'll give it a try later
[19:58] <mhall119> I'm in the middle of re-contructing my panty today
[20:12] <tgm4883> mhall119, yea, I don't think it's constructed right, and everything I've tried has failed on it
[20:13] <tgm4883> bobweaver, I don't like it
[20:13] <tgm4883> I vote go
[20:13] <bobweaver> mhall119,  what would you make different about it ?
[20:13] <bobweaver> sorry tgm4883  *
[20:14] <tgm4883> if I didn't know that it was from ubuntu phone, it would be absolutely meaningless. Seems to just be a blob in the background
[20:14] <bobweaver> Like at frist I thought of it like this.  Count how many times user is clicking on things and also searching things then use that data (LOCAL ONLY) to render the thing
[20:14] <tgm4883> While i'm fine with something being in the background (even moving in the background) I think it looks odd
[20:15] <bobweaver> whta if the center of it when hoving over it started playing movie ?
[20:15] <tgm4883> I think there are better things we could do with the background
[20:15] <bobweaver> thanks for your input tgm4883  I think it is great
[20:15] <bobweaver> like ...
[20:16] <tgm4883> for instance. If you play a song, what if we scrolled recent tweets about the artist?
[20:16] <tgm4883> (coming from the guy that doesn't use twitter)
[20:16] <bobweaver> But then a friend of mine was talking about music and was using itunes and said "I can never remember the name if that song" So I thought to myself if mouse over starts to play it then it would be easy to find.  as Long as you can remember the artist or some keyword.
[20:16] <tgm4883> tie in social
[20:16] <bobweaver> Like stuff from twitter ?
[20:16] <tgm4883> mouseover with a sample is a great idea
[20:16] <tgm4883> I like that
[20:17] <bobweaver> I could use lastfm and use that data to grab more from other places
[20:17] <tgm4883> yea, if you start playing a song, we should have the option to bring up info like that
[20:17] <tgm4883> so either in an optional side pane, or (better IMO) in the background
[20:17] <bobweaver> like previews ?
[20:18] <bobweaver> There is 2 things with that that I am at a cross roads with
[20:18] <bobweaver> Saviq,  and JAy player is not yet released and I want to use it for the center of the circle for movies and videos lens
[20:19] <bobweaver> jay's *
[20:19] <bobweaver> But I def need to figure out if I am going to use this thing
[20:20] <bobweaver> it is not the same as the phone. It is just what I thought that the code for the phone will be. It is going to be fun to compare  in the end:)
[20:20] <bobweaver> "welcome screen"
[20:21] <bobweaver> But before I make it have "fireworks" I figure that I would give 3 days of people saying yes or no and then run from that
[20:21] <bobweaver> Other thing is this
[20:21] <bobweaver> I am working on themeing
[20:21] <bobweaver> it is all done in photoshop or gimp
[20:22] <bobweaver> one just makes what they would want theme to look like in gimp and tool that I am making makes theme for Ubuntu TV ;_)
[20:23] <bobweaver> so there is no coding behind it at all. It is you make a picture and the tool that I am making (a modified  qml-exporter)
[20:23] <bobweaver> that makes the code
[20:24] <bobweaver> tgm4883,  what do you think about launcher in different places
[20:24] <bobweaver> ?
[20:24] <tgm4883> bobweaver, I suppose that would depend on how themable it is
[20:24] <bobweaver> I am re-writing the launcher also to be more like the Phone or do you think that I should wait on that ?  ]
[20:25] <tgm4883> I'd have to see what the phone is
[20:25] <tgm4883> I haven't looked much
[20:26] <bobweaver> well tgm4883  it comes with 5 or 6 different pictures that one needs to make    lensView (render type) , launcher, indicators , and misc like background and well that is all the tool does at this poiint
[20:26] <bobweaver> tgm4883,  we are blowing up on Google Plus today lol
[20:27] <bobweaver> I have been posting there a bunch
[20:27] <bobweaver> Hope it is ok
[20:27] <tgm4883> mhall119, can you put this on the facebook page  http://youtu.be/J4HGSJZhmXM
[20:27] <bobweaver> mhall119,  ^^
[20:27] <bobweaver> just let me know
[20:27] <tgm4883> bobweaver, I just posted there too
[20:28] <bobweaver> tgm4883,  did you put that on the google + page ?
[20:28] <tgm4883> yea
[20:28] <tgm4883> I've put it on the G+ page for UTV and mythbuntu
[20:28] <tgm4883> I'm putting it on the website soon, provided someone is around to approve that
[20:28] <bobweaver> tgm4883,  I have full thing ready for guide
[20:28] <tgm4883> sweet
[20:28] <bobweaver> it is qml of cource but it is ready
[20:29] <bobweaver> I kinda re-wrote what I think Saviq  wrote before
[20:29] <bobweaver> tgm4883,  what is the bug in libdee I am going to fix that shit
[20:30] <bobweaver> so I can use that
[20:30] <tgm4883> bobweaver, bug 1096708
[20:30] <tgm4883> it's fixed in 12.10, just needs a backport
[20:30] <tgm4883> or installing the newer packages
[20:30] <bobweaver> !bug 1096708
[20:30] <tgm4883> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/dee/+bug/1096708
[20:32] <bobweaver> tgm4883,  you should target that for 12.04
[20:32] <bobweaver> j/s
[20:33] <tgm4883> bobweaver, it works in 12.04 as soon as the backport is available
[20:33] <bobweaver> like have 2 or is there something holding that back besides time ?
[20:33] <bobweaver> that is stupid
[20:33] <tgm4883> bobweaver, I know
[20:33] <bobweaver> I am done leting things like that hold me back
[20:33] <tgm4883> bobweaver, in order for me to fix it, I would have to report the entire thing back to python2
[20:33] <bobweaver> ahh
[20:34] <tgm4883> bobweaver, meh, I'll put it in a PPA with the updated packages, then it would work in 12.04 :)
[20:34] <bobweaver> right now as it is I am still using you scope from like a year ago
[20:34] <bobweaver> the one that is on the myth tv page
[20:35] <bobweaver> mythbuntu page/ blog *
[20:35] <tgm4883> yea, that will be getting updated at some point
[20:35] <tgm4883> need to sort the packaging though
[20:36] <bobweaver> tgm4883,  I think that we should start to get more feedback from the community
[20:36] <tgm4883> bobweaver, I agree
[20:36] <bobweaver> like posting alot simple questions on G+ and other things like that
[20:37] <bobweaver> I have been holding all that back for some stupid reason that I could not even justify in my head lol
[20:37] <bobweaver> tgm4883,  you should try ppa ;)
[20:37] <bobweaver> it is awesome I just killed like 8 bugs
[20:38] <bobweaver> bugs that where even in Unity 2d still in 12.04 I am going to have to figure out how to separate and make patches when I get the time
[20:38] <tgm4883> bobweaver, well i've got to fix the packaging issues first
[20:38] <tgm4883> because I split off the services library from the main package
[20:38] <bobweaver> what issue is that ?
[20:38] <tgm4883> installing the library isn't working right
[20:38] <bobweaver> ahh the ai
[20:38] <bobweaver> api *
[20:38] <tgm4883> so the scopes can't call it :(
[20:39] <bobweaver> boo
[20:39] <bobweaver> :)
[20:39] <bobweaver> what are http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qtK0KMH-8xs
[20:39] <bobweaver> sorry
[20:39] <bobweaver> two things for 2 different placees
[20:40] <bobweaver> I have had to much coffee today
[20:41] <tgm4883> mhall119, if you have access to doadjustyourset, can you approve the post I just did there
[20:42] <bobweaver> tgm4883,  just a suggestion but I think that (again suggestion) you should use the Ubuntu TV account when you post to the google Plus page
[20:42] <tgm4883> didn't I?
[20:42] <bobweaver> tgm4883,  take that with grain of salt,
[20:43] <tgm4883> bobweaver, I reshared a post
[20:43] <tgm4883> so I shared it on my G+ page, then I signed into UTV account and reshared it
[20:43] <bobweaver> sweet yeah it was under your G+ page
[20:43] <bobweaver> sweet
[20:43] <tgm4883> which IMO is how it should be done?
[20:43] <tgm4883> I did the same thing under the mythbuntu page
[20:44] <bobweaver> wait till what you see what I am making woth g+ fbook and all that jazz
[20:44] <tgm4883> so it branches off the source
[20:44] <bobweaver> sould be done in a month I thin k
[20:44] <bobweaver> ahh I see v.cool @
[20:45] <bobweaver> tgm4883,  should I take and make a thing in the dash that does everything that gnome-control-center does ?
[20:46] <tgm4883> well it seems that gnome-control-center is plugin driven
[20:46] <bobweaver> about to make video about themes brb
[20:46] <bobweaver> it is all glib
[20:48] <tgm4883> also, when sharing like that, it makes it a bit easier for me to see the ripples
[20:48] <tgm4883> because I can just look at my post
[20:48] <tgm4883> and makes a more logically source I think
[20:57] <bobweaver> tgm4883,  I am now learning python for this tool that you are about to see. But I sure do wish that there where {in py}
[20:58] <tgm4883> heh
[20:58] <tgm4883> yea, no brackets means you have to be good with whitespace
[21:01] <bobweaver> eff that I am dyslisic
[21:02] <bobweaver> woops I uploaded to the wrong accound :/
[21:02] <bobweaver> accont *
[21:02] <bobweaver> er
[21:02] <bobweaver> re-uploading
[21:04] <bobweaver> tgm4883,  the main reason that I have been all pissie is because one I am quiting ciggs and 2 I am poor and am having issues on that end but things are starting to look up and sorry about my outbursts sometimes I am just driven because of my past
[21:04] <tgm4883> no worries, sometimes other stuff gets in the way
[21:05] <tgm4883> me4oslav was looking for you yesterday I think
[21:05] <bobweaver> yeah it has gotten bad for me but I am a hard worker and I am not going to break the law so I have to deal with it
[21:05] <bobweaver> on u2t ?
[21:05] <tgm4883> yea
[21:11] <bobweaver> tgm4883, if you like I posted video on the G+ page about theming I dont know if it is easy to follow but I figure what the hey
[23:11] <bobweaver> I need to get wayland to work on QtCreator but I can not afford all the licensing fees to have the workspace :/
[23:11] <mhall119> tgm4883: I don't think I was ever given admin access to doadjustyourset
[23:12] <bobweaver> There has to be a way ....land way around this
[23:12] <bobweaver> ahh cool
[23:12] <bobweaver> do you all need hosting space ?
[23:12] <bobweaver> to move blogs
[23:12] <bobweaver> that is all that I can offer
[23:14] <bobweaver> but that is weaksause on the i = i&i = locked
[23:15] <mhall119> tgm4883: posting your video on Facebook
[23:15] <tgm4883> thanks
[23:17] <bobweaver> mhall119, I want more public inter action I have learned A lot of things that the People think just on G+ would be cool to have days like this more often. I mean I would Have never even thought about having html themes with out comment on G+
[23:18] <bobweaver> at str = "audience participation "
[23:18] <bobweaver> var *
[23:19] <bobweaver> I want to make it so the "audience makes Ubuntu TV
[23:19] <bobweaver> Not 4 people behind canonical
[23:19] <bobweaver> that is  NOT what I am saying that it is ATM
[23:19] <bobweaver> ATM = at the moment
[23:21] <bobweaver> have a strong urge against things that lock a users reality into a diametictal er shart dislykia
[23:21] <bobweaver> die-a-met-tra-cal
[23:21] <bobweaver> objects
[23:21] <mhall119> html themes on what? Unity?
[23:22] <tgm4883> bobweaver, I don't think 4 people at canonical are making Ubuntu TV
[23:22] <bobweaver> mhall119,  so I took qmlexporter and re-wrote it to make thems for skin of 2d
[23:22] <tgm4883> I think the community is making Ubuntu TV
[23:22] <bobweaver> but I kept in mind qt 5
[23:23] <mhall119> yeah, I wish we still had 4 people at canonical working on it
[23:23] <bobweaver> the whole time
[23:23] <bobweaver> lol
[23:23] <bobweaver> I misunderstand things to often
[23:23] <mhall119> actually I think our max Canonical staff was 3
[23:25] <bobweaver> it is hard to convey things to a massive scale on such a platform that we are possessed
[23:27] <bobweaver> If we are going to take this over I want to make the next year a testing platform esp because of the things that I read ever morning  ESP with X
[23:27] <bobweaver> ESP with X
[23:27] <bobweaver> a true plateform inmho can not conatain a X
[23:28] <bobweaver> er
[23:28] <bobweaver> ....
[23:28] <mhall119> are you talking about X11 server?
[23:32] <bobweaver> sorry about that power went out
[23:32] <mhall119> np
[23:32] <mhall119> you getting a bunch of snow up there?
[23:33] <bobweaver> not that much it is cold not much snow in the rust belt
[23:34] <bobweaver> But it would be cool to see what the community could make "could thought (out of air)")
[23:35] <mhall119> indeed, lots of ideas in the community just waiting for somebody who can implement them
[23:35] <bobweaver> I can drop bombs
[23:36] <bobweaver> sometimes not that good
[23:36] <bobweaver> I am working on that
[23:36] <mhall119> better than I can
[23:36]  * mhall119 assumes bombs == code
[23:38] <bobweaver> its hard when life is  ..AE2
[23:41] <bobweaver> but I have a buieutiful life around me sometimes it is v.easy to forget these things, But I also think  that this is a perfect example of how somethin lie this can apply to the youth around us
[23:43] <bobweaver> tbh with all of you
[23:44] <bobweaver> They say that we are in the stage of the "bonic" part of tech , tehn why not think about the heart of it all like the spores of tech
[23:44] <bobweaver> seems silly to stick to anything but that
[23:46] <bobweaver> everything is moving out word or so they say ....IDK I do know that spores are smaller then bonic matter though
[23:48] <bobweaver> I guess I will make option for 3d cube in tv tonight
[23:50] <bobweaver> have  a good one ^cube I mean^   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vhWS_bN-T3k
[23:51] <bobweaver> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_FjuPn7MXMs
[23:52] <bobweaver> mario also works on wayland with Box2d so could desktop


[05:34] <jussi> nixternal: fwiw, I get the same issue
[05:35] <nixternal> re amarok?
[05:36] <jussi> yeah
[07:00] <jussi> Riddell: so who is making the shortlist?
[07:01] <jussi> Darkwing: ^^^
[07:04] <Riddell> jussi: it's on my todo list for this morning unless you're volunteering
[07:05] <jussi> Riddell: I can make a shortlist, but what is the criteria? only those that fulfill all the requirements?
[07:07] <jussi> or do we cull other things+
[07:07] <jussi> ?
[07:09]  * Riddell nudges jussi at his /msg
[09:24] <Mamarok> jussi, nixternal: please check with the packager of Amarok, there must be an error somewhere
[09:32] <yofel_> Mamarok: amarok is built with liblastfm enabled though, I'll see if I can reproduce that
[09:34] <Mamarok> yofel_: thanks. Tha error shouldn't happen, and I don't see how it could
[09:37] <yofel_> okaaaay... reproduced
[10:22] <Riddell> yofel_: I fear I won't be much help with 4.8.3, I'm feeling overloaded currently and need to concentrate on UDS and name et al
[10:24] <yofel_> sure, I have a cold myself, but feeling better now so I'll continue with it today I think.
[10:30] <yofel_> Mamarok: I fear I can't quite figure out how to use last.fm, never used it before. That the plugin search you get is the gstreamer codec search isn't making things clearer either. Maybe try the VLC backend for phonon (phonon-backend-vlc) so we know if this really has something to do with gstreamer (nixternal: can you try that too if you have time?)
[10:31] <Riddell> I thought lastfm player didn't use gstreamer?
[10:32] <Riddell> yeah it just depends on libmad directly and talks to alsa or oss
[10:33] <Riddell> last fm through amarok I guess would send an mp3 stream to amarok which uses gstreamer
[10:41] <Mamarok> yofel_: I don't have that problem, it is jussi and nixternal who have that
[10:41] <yofel_> well, I got it too, but can't reproduce it now. Maybe it happens only once?
[10:42] <Riddell> afiestas: nudge nudge, if you want sessions at UDS they need to be registered now, we also need to give the unity guys some warning to prepare their thoughts
[10:44] <afiestas> Riddell: okz, can I have 15min more?
[10:47] <Riddell> sure
[10:57] <afiestas> Riddell:  I'm really interested on discuss about release date
[10:57] <afiestas> but you told me that topic was already covered
[10:57] <afiestas> (still interested in knowing your thoughts but I can do that while having dinner xD)
[10:58] <Riddell> afiestas: when KDE moved to a 6 monthly release we had a discussion about moving kubuntu to match that
[10:58] <Riddell> we decided against it since moving closer to the KDE SC release would mean less stable software and a lot of extra burden to be out of sync with ubuntu
[10:59] <afiestas> I don't want to match that
[10:59] <afiestas> having Kubuntu releasing .3 is nice
[10:59] <afiestas> exactly
[10:59] <afiestas> what I want to do is actually delay the release
[10:59] <afiestas> Ubuntu release is Unity Ubnutu big day, we won't spoil taht
[10:59] <afiestas> no matter how much we grow, it is Ubuntu's day to shine, not ours
[11:00] <afiestas> I know we can release earlier, so then 2 weeks after or so should be ok
[11:00] <afiestas> media is sooooo hungry of news that with 2 weeks should be more than enough
[11:01] <Riddell> afiestas: trouble with that is 2 weeks after is UDS
[11:02] <Riddell> and we'll get people going "oh why isn't kubuntu out yet you're just slow"
[11:02] <Riddell> but really can't release during UDS, and UDS is very important to the whole ubuntu process which we want to be part of
[11:30] <ScottK> afiestas: Since we get the point releases in even after we release, I don't think waiting for a particular point release is needed.
[11:32] <afiestas> ScottK: mmm indeed
[12:21] <shadeslayer> oh yay, I'm hit by bug 340495
[12:58] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[13:40] <CIA-42> [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/kactivities] Philip Muškovac * 14 * debian/changelog Rebuild for .pot generation
[14:04] <CIA-42> [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/kactivities] Philip Muškovac * 15 * debian/ (changelog control libkactivities-bin.install) * New upstream release - add activitymanager_plugin_globalshortcuts to libkactivities-bin.install
[14:41] <CIA-42> [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/kde-baseapps] Philip Muškovac * 214 * debian/ (6 files in 2 dirs) * New upstream release - drop patches applied upstream: + Reduce-the-timeout-in-KItemListKeyboardSearchManager.patch + Fix-drag-drop-cursor-issue.patch + Revert-the-2.0-decision-to-always-use-KB-for-file-si.patch
[14:53] <shadeslayer> mmm .. symbols being removed :/
[14:53] <shadeslayer> http://paste.kde.org/467318/
[15:14] <ScottK> shadeslayer: from the git log:
[15:14] <ScottK>     Backport of all the ResourceWatcher changes from nepomuk-core.
[15:14] <ScottK>
[15:14] <ScottK>     The two repositories diverged too much for me to easily backport
[15:14] <ScottK>     commit by commit.
[15:15] <ScottK> Probably worth talking to Sebastian Trueg about.
[15:24] <shadeslayer> Yep, I know
[15:25] <CIA-42> [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/libkdcraw] Philip Muškovac * 34 * debian/ (changelog control) New upstream release
[15:28] <shadeslayer> ScottK: I'll use X-Debian-ABI for now
[15:28] <ScottK> Does anything build-depend on kde-runtime and do we care?
[15:29] <ScottK> Binary new in an SRU will be a tough sell.
[15:29] <shadeslayer> libnepomukdatamanagement4 and plasma-active
[15:29] <shadeslayer> well ..... the first one doesn't count
[15:30] <shadeslayer> I guess we can let it slide?
[15:31] <shadeslayer> projects.kde.org looks fugly
[15:33] <shadeslayer> uh well ...
[15:33] <shadeslayer> the slot now accepts a QVariantList instead of a QDBusVariant
[15:41] <CIA-42> [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/libkipi] Philip Muškovac * 34 * debian/ (changelog control) New upstream release
[15:41] <ScottK> Does anything else use it?
[15:42] <shadeslayer> ScottK: my main concern is Plasma Active, but since we're going to rebuild that stuff anyway, I can let it slide
[15:43] <CIA-42> [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/kdepim-runtime] Philip Muškovac * 106 * debian/changelog Rebuild for .pot generation
[15:43] <shadeslayer> http://paste.kde.org/467342/
[15:43] <ScottK> OK.  Make sure you set a high enough build dep
[15:43] <shadeslayer> will do
[15:46] <shadeslayer> I've also emailed upstream
[17:18]  * BluesKaj wonders when virtuoso bug will be seriously examined . It uses up large amounts of cpu while doing nothing "waiting fro something to happen"
[17:18] <Peace-> BluesKaj: i would remove kmix instead
[17:18] <Peace-> for veromix
[17:18] <Peace-> just crash :)
[17:18] <BluesKaj> kmix isn't a problem here
[17:18] <Peace-> it just crashes
[17:19] <Peace-> changed a few stuff on volume
[17:19] <Peace-> and => crash
[17:20] <EagleScreen> yes, it has crahed for me
[17:20] <EagleScreen> I think it crashed when I muted it
[17:21] <Peace-> it's a known bug
[17:24] <BluesKaj> Peace-, how are kmix and virtuoso linked?
[17:41] <Peace-> BluesKaj: there is not a link
[17:42] <Peace-> BluesKaj: the sentence was i would remove kmix for veromix
[17:42] <BluesKaj> , errands ...BBL
[17:43] <Peace-> BluesKaj: bye
[18:11] <CIA-42> [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/kdepim-runtime] Philip Muškovac * 107 * debian/ (changelog control kdepim-runtime.install) * New upstream release - update kdepim-runtime.install (libnepomukdatamanagement-copy was renamed to kdepim-runtime-dms-copy)
[18:27] <CIA-42> [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/libkexiv2] Philip Muškovac * 35 * debian/ (changelog control) New upstream release
[18:31] <CIA-42> [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/libksane] Philip Muškovac * 27 * debian/ (changelog control) New upstream release
[18:32] <ScottK> Riddell: You should probably make sure we have the "Python 3 only on the 12.10 desktop CD ( Foundations )" session covered as it will impact Kubuntu when common things start going Python3.
[18:33] <CIA-42> [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/marble] Philip Muškovac * 32 * debian/changelog Rebuild for .pot generation
[18:34] <ScottK> Probably "Qt 5 ( Other )" too.  Sneaky of them not to invite you.
[18:43] <CIA-42> [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/marble] Philip Muškovac * 33 * debian/ (changelog control) New upstream release
[18:47] <CIA-42> [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/kde-workspace] Philip Muškovac * 636 * debian/ (changelog control) * Add missing epoch in breaks/replaces of libkwinnvidiahack4 * Rebuild for .pot generation
[18:50] <CIA-42> [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/kde-workspace] Philip Muškovac * 637 * debian/ (9 files in 2 dirs) add missing files
[20:42] <CIA-42> [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/kde-workspace] Philip Muškovac * 638 * debian/ (4 files in 2 dirs) * New upstream release - Add kubuntu_fix_gleffects.diff so opengl effects are installed.
[20:45] <CIA-42> [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/kde-workspace] Philip Muškovac * 639 * debian/changelog reword the last changelog entry
[20:52] <CIA-42> [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/kdeadmin] Philip Muškovac * 149 * debian/ (changelog control) New upstream release
[20:52] <bulldog98> Riddell: what’s about updateing owncloud in repro to 3.0.3?
[20:54] <CIA-42> [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/kanagram] Jonathan Kolberg * 25 * debian/ (changelog control) * New upstream release - add libssl-dev to build-dep - bump Standards-Version to 3.9.3 (no change)
[21:02] <nixternal> i wish i could punch synaptiks in the face
[21:04]  * ScottK holds synaptiks up by the collar for nixternal.
[21:04] <maco> nixternal is back?
[21:05] <nixternal> yeah buddy!
[21:06] <nixternal> but not to work on kubuntu, i want to work on something else :)
[21:08] <BluesKaj> that's why I always used a mouse with my laptop
[21:09] <nixternal> BluesKaj: i am too, and synaptiks is supposed to shut off when I do that. it does for the most part, but out of the blue my trackpad will just enable itself and i am typing everywhere
[21:09] <nixternal> thank god it doesn't matter in vim
[21:09] <ScottK> What do you want to work on?
[21:10] <nixternal> ScottK: you don't get the inside joke with that one? that 'not work on kubuntu...something else' is an inside joke. you know :)
[21:11] <ScottK> Ah.  Got it.
[21:11] <ScottK> The dog came in the bedroom and pooped on the floor at 6:30AM and it's been that kind of day.
[21:11] <nixternal> oh this live-build is killing me
[21:12] <ScottK> (old dog - he was trying to make it to the dog door and couldn't)
[21:12] <nixternal> only at 6:30am? both my damn dogs do it whenever they feel like it
[21:13] <nixternal> live-build is kicking my ass. i can create iso's, but they aren't good for nothing. i need all of the isolinux and what not in there
[21:13] <nixternal> oh the humanity
[21:13] <nixternal> need to take an iso break and work on my cloud project
[22:14] <maco> ScottK: KC approves members and blueprints. also ~kubuntu-dev applicants? or is that a different team?
[22:14] <Sput> does any of the kubuntians know which packages the "capset" and "chkstat" are part of? these seem to be non-standard/debian specific things, as I can't find them for Gentoo
[22:14] <Sput> capset I can only find a reference to as a syscall, and chkstat seems to be some SuSE thing...
[22:15] <Sput> (according to Google; since scripts running on my currently-not-reachable kubuntu box use those binaries, I assume kubuntu has them packaged somehow)
[22:20] <maco> what version of kubuntu?
[22:21] <maco> there are no files named either those things in oneiric according to packages.ubuntu.com's file search
[22:44] <Sput> maco: it's 11.10...
[22:44] <Sput> maco: I'll have a look tomorrow when I'm at my work laptop again and see what's happening there
[22:44] <Sput> thx for now :)
[22:56] <ScottK> maco: To be Kubuntu Dev you need to be a Kubuntu Member (approved by KC) and technically qualified (approved by kubuntu-dev).  Not all KC members are developers, so KC can't do both roles.
[22:56] <maco> ok
[22:56] <maco> so kubuntu dev does its own new member approvals
[22:56] <ScottK> Yes
[22:57] <ScottK> TB/DMB/whoever was the right entity approved this.
[22:57] <maco> thanks :)
[23:16] <nixternal> ScottK: DMB approved it, pushed to TB who 2nd it :)  ahh, the good ol' days
[23:16] <ScottK> OK.
[23:16]  * ScottK really forgets.
[23:51]  * micahg is thankful that kubuntu devs usually don't break anything but their own packages