[08:23] <ZoeyMarie> hrm... let me rephrase this... I'm trying to install a tar.gz file, and it tells me to qmake the src/ dir of the sources... but then it points me to a site that just explains what SVN is, I think...
[08:23] <gac1> Oh OK but I got this warning message about security updates being dangerous
[08:23] <Myrtti> gac1: you installed that software earlier, and it came from an unauthenticated source then
[08:23] <pete__> idyle, yea, we are both doing it at the exact same moment haha
[08:24] <pete__> idyle, yea, you know why i always seem to come in here and help people? cause ive had all these problems before hahah
[08:24] <idyle> :P!
[08:24] <Myrtti> gac1: only thing you're doing now is updating and upgrading that same software
[08:24] <idyle> yeah pass on the good advise :D
[08:24] <pete__> i tried to use ubuntu when it was the badger
[08:24] <pete__> but it never worked on my machine
[08:24] <gac1> Oh OK. Thanks a lot.
[08:25] <pete__> wow downloading karmic packages at 1.8 mb/sec
[08:25] <idyle> lol yeah it's been getting WAY better the last couple of years
[08:25] <idyle> I got 1.5mbps
[08:25] <gac1> I'm new to this system but I do love Ubuntu so much superior to Windows nonsense
[08:25] <pete__> nice. comcast?
[08:25] <idyle> at&t
[08:25] <idyle> at a friends house too ^_^
[08:26] <pete__> wow never heard of at t that fast
[08:26] <pete__> usually they got slow dsl
[08:26] <idyle> alright I'm gonna let this run overnight, going to bed :]
[08:26] <pete__> cya.
[08:26] <idyle> yeah his dad works for at&
[08:26] <ZoeyMarie> Okay. So I svn'd the source code, and it appears to be downloading it... where is it downloading it to, so I know where to point qmake to?
[08:26] <sarthorks> how do i play .rm files in ubuntu? these are Real Player files.
[08:26] <idyle> so maybe that's why
[08:26] <idyle> good night everyone!
[08:27] <lstarnes> ZoeyMarie: it's downloading it to a directory under your current directory
[08:27] <ZoeyMarie> ahhh
[08:27] <test3434> good morning everyone
[08:27] <pete__> eddy, it doesnt matter im on xubuntu for karmic does it
[08:27] <bill_> hi
[08:27] <abc123> hi all
[08:27] <eddy> pete__, it shouldn't
[08:28] <pete__> eddy, im really liking xfce
[08:28] <eddy> yea it's light and fast; i prefer gnome though
[08:28] <eddy> ... regular ubuntu :-)
[08:28] <nemo_> fluxbox ftw
[08:29] <Drained> anyone know of a way to get usb headset to work with ubuntu?
[08:29] <gac1> Anyway, i had trouble just getting here.  So I'm trying to qmake the src/ dir of the sources... and it's telling me there's an error processing the project file at the location that I provided.  I have to use XP for some software my college uses
[08:41] <eddy> what was ubuntu's first version called
[08:41] <eddy> achy apples?
[08:41] <Gnea> anothergit: how big's your hd?
[08:41] <anothergit> 80 gigs
[08:41] <anothergit> I'm always having problems with storage
[08:41] <eddy> ubuntu big bunnies
[08:41] <pete__> < takes online classes and is so glad firefox/ubuntu work with it
[08:41] <Gnea> anothergit: so split it down the middle
[08:42] <daivana> Who can explain me what does this message means when I tipe sudo tilda "(tilda:22373): Gdk-CRITICAL **: gdk_x11_window_set_user_time: assertion `GDK_IS_WINDOW (window)' failed
[08:42] <daivana> "
[08:42] <eddy> ubuntu clutzy cat
[08:42] <Gnea> eddy: it's on www.ubuntu.com somewhere
[08:42] <anothergit> Gnea, 40 gigs should be good?
[08:42] <Gnea> anothergit: yeah
[08:42] <pete__> eddy, ubuntu smelly bong water
[08:42] <anothergit> how about open office, does that take a lot of space?
[08:42] <smn_> I great people of ubuntu community! :D   I got this file kompozer-0.8a4-gcc4.2-i686.tar.gz  and im trying to install it. Ive used this guide https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingEasyHowTo untill i got to the line "you just need to change to your /usr/local/src directory (cd /usr/local/src) and run the commands that are listed. The procedure will vary from program to program, so I can't help you here". Ive looked trough the files i got extrac
[08:42] <smn_> ted and i cannot find a readme file or install instructions....  Any clue on what i need to do to get this programm installed?
[08:42] <lstarnes> anothergit: yes
[08:42] <nemo_> it means you need to run as user
[08:42] <nemo_> not as sudo
[08:42] <anothergit> I think I just did remove when I noticed it had ver 2.4 instead of 3
[08:42] <anothergit> then I installed 3
[08:42] <daivana> how do I do that
[08:43] <daivana> sorry I am a noob :)
[08:43] <Gnea> anothergit: 40gig should be good enough, programs shouldn't, with OOo, take more than 3-6gig
[08:43] <eddy> pete__, the 2 words have to start with same letter, notice jaunty jackalope
[08:43] <daivana> When I choose it from menu it wont start
[08:43] <Gnea> anothergit: *if* that
[08:43] <anothergit> gnea, thanks
[08:43] <daivana> it starts when I sudo it in terminal
[08:43] <nemo_> type tilda is terminal not "sudo tilda"
[08:43] <daivana> ok I try
[08:43] <pete__> eddy, Ubuntu Bouncing Bongwater
[08:43] <obiwan__> i'll ask, just in case any1 knows. I read: order is significant. ls > file 2>&1 will redirect ouput & error to file, but ls 2&>1 > file will just out, i can't get it. I know about the order in redirection, and understand the first case is the obvious. But the second should work too: 2 points to 1, and 1 point to file, so 2 should go to file too. Why not?
[08:43] <daivana> it wont work
[08:44] <pete__> ;p
[08:44] <daivana> it says Segmentation fault
[08:44] <eddy> ubuntu busted bong
[08:44] <Gnea> !info kompozer | smn_
[08:44] <pete__>  eddy no! i love my bong
[08:44] <Gnea> smn_: no need, just:  sudo apt-get install kompozer
[08:44] <anothergit> now about partitioning. if I make 1 ext3 for ubuntu, one swap, one ext3 for porn, and 1 ntfs for windows I should be able to install ubuntu and then later when I do windows windows will be cool with grub
[08:44] <anothergit> right?
[08:44] <Gnea> pete__: please take the drug talk to #ubuntu-offtopic or pm, thanks.
[08:44] <bambang-pc> hello !!!!! please help me !!!, my ubuntu jaunty not shutdown normally ... this message out ' System Halted Now'
[08:44] <anothergit> I realized that wasn't a question
[08:44] <eddy> i havent smoked weed in weeks.. job hunting
[08:44] <smn_> gnea: nope the kompozer 7 crashes on ubuntu. therfor i need the vesion 8
[08:44] <eddy> i roll blunt
[08:44] <Myrtti> !offtopic
[08:44] <bazhang> eddy, pete__ please take it elsewhere
[08:44] <pete__> Gnea, lol ok, it was paraphenalia talk but ill stop.
[08:44] <eddy> ubuntu busted blunt
[08:44] <bambang-pc> i'm running this on my notebook
[08:44] <daivana> nemo_
[08:45] <nemo_> are you on karmic daivana
[08:45] <nemo_> ??
[08:45] <Gnea> pete__: doesn't matter.
[08:45] <daivana> Ubuntu jaunty 0.19
[08:45] <daivana> 9.10
[08:45] <daivana> no 9.04
[08:45] <Blizzerand> lol.
[08:45] <bambang-pc> toshiba satellite a215
[08:45] <daivana> sorry :D
[08:45] <bambang-pc> help
[08:45] <FloodBot2> daivana: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[08:45] <bambang-pc> help!!!
[08:45] <Gnea> smn_: try #kubuntu, they're more kde-oriented
[08:45] <bambang-pc> ubottu!!
[08:45] <smn_> gnea: is the kompozer a kde thing?
[08:45] <Myrtti> Gnea: kompozer isn't kde?
[08:45] <Blizzerand> !ask | bambang-pc
[08:45] <Gnea> smn_: yes.
[08:45] <bambang-pc> hello !!!!! please help me !!!, my ubuntu jaunty not shutdown normally ... this message out ' System Halted Now
[08:46] <nemo_> try typing gksudo tilda
[08:46] <Myrtti> Gnea: kompozer is the old nvu, has nothing to do with kde afaik?
[08:46]  * Gnea takes a step back
[08:46] <Blizzerand> bambang-pc : Thats normal all right
[08:46] <Gnea> Myrtti: ... you're right, my bad
[08:46] <daivana> it start but in terminal it says (tilda:22537): Gdk-CRITICAL **: gdk_x11_window_set_user_time: assertion `GDK_IS_WINDOW (window)' failed
[08:46] <Gnea> smn_: sorry, I totally just mis-informed you. :/
[08:46] <nemo_> its a bug
[08:46] <Blizzerand> bambang-pc ; start it agian and see if you get any errors
[08:46] <smn_> gnea. that is wrong. this text from the kompozer homesite:  Linux users
[08:46] <smn_> KompoZer is a GTK application, it has nothing to do with KDE — though it can be installed on KDE, too. Komodo and the Kernel aren’t KDE applications either. ;-)
[08:46] <smn_> Office Space London KompoZer 0.7.10 is not compatible with GTK ≥ 2.14, hence the crashes on some recent Linux distros like Ubuntu 8.10 and 9.04. Please upgrade to KompoZer 0.8 alpha.
[08:46] <FloodBot2> smn_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[08:46] <bambang-pc> oh ... is it not a problem??
[08:46] <daivana> ok thanks for help
[08:46] <bambang-pc> blizzerand
[08:47] <Gnea> smn_: is there a ppa for it?
[08:47] <bambang-pc> please ... i'm newbie
[08:47] <smn_> gnea: ppa dont say me enything :)
[08:47] <smn_> anything*
[08:47] <dyjytyl> hewro
[08:47] <Myrtti> bambang-pc: ask!
[08:47] <bambang-pc> can i shutdown normally my ubuntu
[08:47] <bambang-pc> ask!
[08:47] <Blizzerand> bambang-pc : Dude instead of just yelling, saying that you are a newbie  , what is it that you are having trouble with ??
[08:47] <Myrtti> !helpme | bambang-pc
[08:48] <bambang-pc> !helpme
[08:48] <bambang-pc> !repeat
[08:48] <Xodiac13> i need some help my resolution was doing fine until i had to hard boot because i was using playonlinux and loading up a game i used catalyst control center to change resolution and it happens when i restart it doesnt stay the same and i cant see my shutdown button on the top right when i try to change my resolution in display it doesnt load up can someone please help me
[08:48] <bazhang> bambang-pc, please be patient
[08:48] <nemo_> lol
[08:49] <Blizzerand> bambang-pc : Do you have trouble shutting down your pc
[08:49] <bambang-pc> okay,, thank for your advice
[08:49] <Dr_Willis> It helps to ask an actual question.....
[08:49] <bambang-pc> yes
[08:49] <smn_> gnea: hold on im rebooting my client back in a minute.
[08:49] <Gnea> smn_: wait.... http://kazhack.org/?post/2009/05/14/KompoZer-0.8a4
[08:49] <Blizzerand> bambang-pc : What kind of trouble , do you get any errors or something of that sort
[08:49] <harpal> where to setmy environment so that every time I dont need to define that?
[08:49] <Gnea> smn_: see reply #19
[08:49] <smn_> checking
[08:49] <bambang-pc> no,.. but my system cannot shutting down normally like windows do
[08:50] <dyjytyl> how do i check which operating system and version is on my nbo
[08:50] <dyjytyl> box
[08:50] <Xodiac13> how can i make sure my resolution stays the same
[08:50] <bambang-pc> this message out "System Now Halted"
[08:50] <bazhang> lsb_release -a in terminal dyjytyl
[08:50] <dyjytyl> ok thanks
[08:50] <cabaro> bambang-pc: gksudo gedit /etc/modules      add:  apm power_off=1
[08:50] <bambang-pc> #19
[08:50] <Xodiac13> my god dang disply settings in the system>>appreance >> display options
[08:50] <dyjytyl> any recommended guides on adding ssh users under ubuntu intrepid?
[08:50] <Gnea> Version: 1:0.8~alpha4+dfsg+svn163-1~jaunty1
[08:51] <Myrtti> dyjytyl: it's just adding normal users
[08:51] <Blizzerand> bambang-pc : Windows is not equal to Ubuntu  . They are different . Their means of shutting down are different .
[08:51] <Blizzerand> bambang-pc : Does that solve your problem
[08:51] <bambang-pc> i already to do that but this problem still occure
[08:51] <bambang-pc> nop
[08:51] <dyjytyl> ok i'll try the typical way.. i had probelms last time with some simple stuff, like the appearance changes
[08:51] <dyjytyl> :)
[08:51] <smn_> gnea: so i just copy the addresses into my source.list and search for it on apt-get?
[08:52] <Xodiac13> can someone help me please
[08:52] <bambang-pc> !repeat
[08:52] <Gnea> smn_: copy them over, run the update (you might need to install the key for it..) then just dist-upgrade
[08:52] <bazhang> bambang-pc, please dont do that
[08:52] <cabaro> bambang-pc: on what hardware are you running?
[08:52] <nemo_> bambang-pc explain your problem better
[08:52] <Blizzerand> bambang-pc : lol , speak English if you do
[08:53] <bambang-pc> i cant speak english fluently
[08:53] <bambang-pc> i'm really sorry
[08:53] <Gnea> bambang-pc: what language do you speak fluently?
[08:53] <aleron> sure ye can
[08:53] <bambang-pc> indonesian
[08:53] <Gnea> !id | bambang-pc
[08:54] <Justicepsion> Can anyone help me with an uncooperative USB stick?
[08:54] <Guest3565> here is a question When I play a game it runs so incredibly slow, like impossible to play, how can I fix this problem?
[08:54] <nemo_> sure
[08:54] <bambang-pc> there is no solve on my problem
[08:54] <Reven> After an update ecryptfs fails. Now I can't access my home folder. Keyctl_search reports that required key not available. Plz help
[08:54] <smn_> gnea: never done this before. where do i find the key and how do i use it 8-)
[08:54] <Blizzerand> Guest3565 : Which game
[08:55] <Guest3565> Blizzerand Urban Terror
[08:55] <Guest3565> oh, and Nexiuz
[08:55] <bambang-pc> my ubuntu jaunty cannot shuttding down normally,, the power not turning of after shutting down, so i press the shutting down button manually
[08:55] <Guest3565> Blizzerand but If i were to go back to windows and play it then it would run really fast
[08:55] <Dr_Willis> Guest3565:  be sure you have the proper 3d drivers installed for your video card
[08:55] <Blizzerand> Guest3565 : Nexiuz never worked for me , whats your graphical card
[08:56] <Guest3565> Graphics Card is intel 865G
[08:56] <CodeWar> I have a ext4 partition that I mounted manually ... how do I add it to /etc/fstab ... I mean what options are required
[08:56] <Gnea> smn_: sec
[08:56] <CodeWar> heres what mount says : /dev/sda3 on /space type ext4 (rw)
[08:56] <smn_> gnea: nvm ive got it
[08:56] <Guest3565> runs games perfectly fine using windows, but I switched to ubuntu 8.10 and nothing seems to work in that department
[08:56] <cabaro> bambang-pc: did you add apm power_off=1  to /etc/modules  ?
[08:56] <smn_> thanks for your help
[08:56] <Gnea> smn_: yeah? cool
[08:57] <Dr_Willis> !intel | Guest3565
[08:57] <Blizzerand> bambang-pc : Ah now I think I do understand your problem
[08:57] <bambang-pc> yes
[08:57] <Justicepsion> Is there any way I can get Ubiquity to install to a different disk than the one it wants to install to?
[08:57] <bambang-pc> yes, i did
[08:57] <porkpie> hey guy's ... I trying to find an ip address in some file on my server using grep but I have forgot the command to search sub dir's    grep ??
[08:57] <bambang-pc> what do you mean??
[08:57] <Guest3565> I know bot, lol thats why I use 8.10 lol
[08:57] <nemo_> yes
[08:57] <Dr_Willis> porkpie:  try -r (thats ormally for recursive) or -R or check  greps man pages.
[08:58] <Blizzerand> !shutdown
[08:58] <porkpie> Dr_Willis: thanks ..... I knew it was something like that
[08:58] <cabaro> bambang-pc: which motherboard, BIOS (version)
[08:59] <Guest3565> So what can I do?  those games run fine in windows, but using linux just ain't workin right, and I can't go back to windows
[08:59] <Blizzerand> bambang-pc : try this from a terminal  -> sudo shutdown
[09:00] <bambang-pc> how can i check may motherboard or bios??
[09:00] <Justicepsion> Guest3565: What is your graphics card?
[09:00] <bambang-pc> sorry,,
[09:00] <eddy> !ati
[09:01] <Blizzerand> Guest3565 : ubuntu really doesn't go well with games  . If you have Vbox  try installing windows there and playing those games
[09:02] <dyjytyl> how do i look up hosting info on a domain
[09:03] <bambang-pc> can i shutting down normally without by pass from terminal??
[09:03] <dyjytyl> with terminal
[09:03] <lstarnes> dyjytyl: whois domain
[09:03] <Guest3565> Justicepsion its an intel 865g
[09:03] <bambang-pc> !ask
[09:03] <Guest3565> Blizzerand what is vbox?
[09:04] <Blizzerand> !virtualbox | Guest3565
[09:04] <Justicepsion> Guest3565: That's definitely part of the problem--Intel cards are . . . eh. I mean, I have one too. But let me see, I know a way to fix that . . .
[09:04] <rxd> why my usb-creator is greyed out, i want to install ubuntu to a usb stick
[09:04] <rxd> want to try 9.10 karmic
[09:04] <Blizzerand> Guest3565 : It creates a virtual machine . you can run your windows there and play all you want .
[09:05] <BaGy> rxd you must make iso file
[09:05] <Jordan_U> dyjytyl: whois domain
[09:05] <dyjytyl> thanks.. forgot about that one
[09:05] <dyjytyl> its too late at night
[09:05] <cabaro> bambang-pc: let me rephrase, how old is your computer, is it a laptop? what model?
[09:05] <trgbeck> have toshiba satellite A205-s5804 all intel stuff working fine
[09:05] <rxd> BaGy: i have the karmic-desktop.iso
[09:05] <bambang-pc> yes, it is a laptop, model toshiba a 215 s 5818
[09:05] <Justicepsion> Guest3565: Do you know how to add a package repository to your list of sources?
[09:05] <Guest3565> Blizzerand only problem is I no longer have an install for windows, my pc didn't come with one.  Know how to fix that lol  or I gotta fork out some money to get another copy?
[09:05] <Blizzerand> bambang-pc : k try that command just to see whether your pc shuts down or not
[09:06] <bambang-pc> 1,5 years old
[09:06] <cabaro> one moment
[09:06] <Guest3565> Justice sort of isn't that through the third party thing right?
[09:06] <dyjytyl> what is the "wheel" group in linux
[09:06] <Justicepsion> Guest3565: In this case, you'll be adding a software source that will give you updated intel video drivers.
[09:06] <trgbeck> i have found that load intel microcode in seems to help in someways
[09:06] <Jordan_U> dyjytyl: Traditionaly it's users who are allowed to su to root
[09:06] <cabaro> bambang-pc: are you running 32 or 64 bit ubuntu?
[09:06] <bambang-pc> i'm have tried  sudo shutdown -p , but my system cannot shutting down normally
[09:07] <dyjytyl> oh nevermind i googled it, it is common
[09:07] <bambang-pc> 32 bit
[09:07] <Blizzerand> Guest3565 : or just avoid them lol . They are for kids
[09:07] <inktri> what's a site that lists how many lines of source code for major open source projects?
[09:07] <trgbeck> acept suspend mode is tricky to get working in toshiba
[09:07] <Blizzerand> bambang-pc : try shutdown -h
[09:08] <Justicepsion> Guest3565: Go to System -> Administration -> Software Sources
[09:08] <Guest3565> Justice okay
[09:08] <bambang-pc> i have trie shutdown -p -d -h , but it still
[09:08] <BaGy> xD
[09:08] <Guest3565> justice there
[09:08] <Pirate_Hunter> how do i view time in terminal or both time and date?
[09:08] <Justicepsion> Guest3565 : then click on the Third-Party Software tab, and click on add.
[09:08] <lstarnes> Pirate_Hunter: date
[09:09] <Jordan_U> bambang-pc: What happesn when you run sudo shutdown -h now?
[09:09] <BaGy> bambang-pc shutdown -h now
[09:09] <Guest3565> okay
[09:09] <BaGy> :)
[09:09] <Jordan_U> bambang-pc: Any errors?
[09:09] <Justicepsion> Guest3565 : which version of Ubuntu are you using?
[09:09] <Blizzerand> lol
[09:09] <Guest3565> 8.10 intrepid
[09:09] <Pirate_Hunter> lstarnes: oh thanks
[09:09] <Pirate_Hunter> lstarnes: weird that time is a comand that does something different
[09:09] <Blizzerand> !info nicotine
[09:10] <Justicepsion> Guest3565 : enter this line: deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/ubuntu-x-swat/x-updates/ubuntu jaunty main
[09:10] <^mNotIntelligent> Pirate_Hunter, time gives the running time of the command next to it...its very useful command
[09:10] <Guest3565> I am not using jaunty though
[09:10] <BaGy> bambang-pc what happen when you run shutdown -h?
[09:10] <Jordan_U> Justicepsion: Are you sure he needs that? it can be unstable
[09:10] <^mNotIntelligent> Pirate_Hunter, prefix time to any command for which you want to know the run time
[09:11] <Justicepsion> Guest3565 : let it be known that this repo can be unstable
[09:11] <Justicepsion> Guest3565 : but that I use it and it works fine for me
[09:11] <Guest3565> I just wanna be able to play my games lol
[09:11] <Blizzerand> Guest3565 : Don't try that lol
[09:11] <bambang-pc> this message return "System Now Halted"
[09:11] <bambang-pc> then i must manually press the power button to power off normally
[09:11] <Jordan_U> !sysrq | bambang-pc
[09:12] <Justicepsion> Guest3565 : in all seriousness I've never had any problems with it, but I can't promise anything.
[09:12] <Blizzerand> bambang-pc : Thats a problem with you PC and has nothing to do with Ubuntu . Did you have any similar problem in any other OS
[09:12] <Guest3565> justice okay thats fine after i add that then what do i do?
[09:12] <Justicepsion> And actually, the line should be deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/ubuntu-x-swat/x-updates/ubuntu intrepid main
[09:12] <Justicepsion> Sorry
[09:12] <bambang-pc> nop
[09:13] <bambang-pc> my laptop is running normally with win xp and windows seven
[09:13] <Pirate_Hunter> ^mNotIntelligent: oh yah I see how that can be useful nice just learnt two things in a short time period
[09:13] <dyjytyl> if i want to only give a user access to /home/rawr2/, do i need to add a new user group and user?  or can i add the user to wheel and then restrict his SU privs to ONLY the /home/rawr2 directory?
[09:13] <Blizzerand> bambang-pc : Have you used any other Linux distribution before
[09:13] <bambang-pc> nop
[09:13] <bambang-pc> only ubuntu
[09:13] <^mNotIntelligent> Pirate_Hunter, thats coool...keep learning
[09:14] <Blizzerand> bambang-pc : Well can you reinstall the whole ubuntu to make sure
[09:14] <Justicepsion> Guest3565 : once you've added that, then you need to go to http://keyserver.ubuntu.com:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0x3B22AB97AF1CDFA9 and copy everything underneath the title line and paste it into a text file.
[09:14] <cyber_666_uk> hey guys, we have Gimp as a great equivalent to Photoshop, do we hae anything on the same level for Flash?
[09:15] <Myrtti> cyber_666_uk: the software to make flash?
[09:15] <Blizzerand> dyjytyl : System --> Administration --> Users and Groups . There you can give and take powers of each user .
[09:15] <dyjytyl> im using terminal
[09:15] <cyber_666_uk> yeah for creating flash animations, like adobe flash
[09:15] <cabaro>  bambang-pc: this is probably related to acpi, updating bios might help
[09:15] <Myrtti> cyber_666_uk: none
[09:15] <cyber_666_uk> really?
[09:15] <cyber_666_uk> shame
[09:15] <dyjytyl> Blizzerand: just using terminal
[09:15] <Guest3565> okay then?
[09:15] <bambang-pc> oooohhh no... i have too much data.. in my home folder
[09:15] <Myrtti> cyber_666_uk: flash is closed, proprietary format
[09:16] <Blizzerand> !gnash | cyber_666_uk
[09:16] <bambang-pc> i was trying to solve this problem one month ago
[09:16] <Myrtti> Blizzerand: that's a flash player, not flash creator
[09:16] <bambang-pc> yeah, i think thats possible
[09:17] <Justicepsion> Guest3565 : then on "Software sources" you need to go to the "Authentication" tab, click "Add," and select the text file you just made. (If you haven't saved it, then save it as something so you can add it.)
[09:17] <cyber_666_uk> thx il take a look at that
[09:17] <Blizzerand> Myrtti : K , sorry . But I did read somewhere , there is a replacement for flash animation creator  in linux.Not sure where though
[09:17] <bambang-pc> maybe my acpi isn't supported by ubuntu jaunty... is it possible??
[09:18] <Blizzerand> bambang-pc : I'm not sure
 my guess is that you have old bios, that is having issues with acpi
[09:19] <zadmalck> hello all
[09:19] <Guest3565> Justice okay done all that and reload and all, then did a sudo apt-get update, so what now?
[09:19] <bambang-pc> can i beg a help, if any one solve this problem please send the solvation problem to<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[09:19] <Justicepsion> Guest3565 : just do sudo apt-get upgrade
[09:20] <bambang-pc> thank you very much for you all
[09:20] <Justicepsion> Guest3565 : it should pull in the new drivers.
[09:20] <bambang-pc> yes
[09:20] <Twittery> Guest3565 : You should probably get some buggy updates  lol
[09:21]  * Twittery huggles bambanf-pc
[09:21]  * Twittery huggles bambang-pc
[09:22] <duryodhan> hi .. I need to install the ubuntu-restricted-extras on a computer with a really shitty internet connection -- is there someway I can download all the needed packages and then transfer via usb key or something ?
[09:23] <dyjytyl> why does the terminal window look weird when i add a user
[09:23] <dyjytyl> and login as them
[09:23] <bambang-pc> how to install 3d animation desktop on ubuntu??
[09:23] <dyjytyl> it dosnt have colors and such
[09:23] <Blizzerand> duryodhan : In synaptic manager you should have some option for that
[09:23] <nico`> /j #france
[09:23] <bambang-pc> i mean what the packages for the 3d animation for ubuntu
[09:24] <sarthor> Hi, problem: i am not able to use dual monitors on my 9.04 Ubuntu, Matrox Card, I Googled alot, i chance my Xorg.conf more than 100 times, I need help, how can use dual monitors with my jaunty, my xorg.conf is http://pastebin.com/m3d333198
[09:24] <Blizzerand> bambang-pc : You have to install compiz-configuration-manager for the animations
[09:24] <bazhang> !ccsm | bambang-pc
[09:25] <allan89041> hi, i just finished "building" my own NAS/drobo solution. It consists of 4 1TB drives. My problem now is i was a 5raid software solution to it (ie 3tb data, 1tb parity) but i would like to run on linux and windows, currently its connected VIA Usb and all 4 drives are recognised indivdually, any suggestions?
[09:25] <bazhang> Blizzerand, its compizconfig-settings-manager
[09:26] <Guest3565> Justice well that didn't seem to help the problem, in fact made it worse it seems
[09:26] <bazhang> duryodhan, check out aptoncd
[09:26] <Blizzerand> bazhang : Sorry , I'm running fedora right now where it said compiz-configuration-manager lol
[09:26] <Justicepsion> Guest3565 : how is it worse?
[09:26] <bazhang> !aptoncd | duryodhan
[09:26] <bambang-pc> thank you
[09:26] <hey_boy> guys, how do I get my selfsigned certificate into openoffice? I want to use it to sign documents.
[09:26] <bambang-pc> it works
[09:27] <Blizzerand> bambang-pc : Did you try the desktop effects
[09:27] <bambang-pc> !compiz
[09:27] <bambang-pc> yes
[09:28] <bambang-pc> now i am trying to enable and install thats
[09:28] <sarthor> Hi, problem: i am not able to use dual monitors on my 9.04 Ubuntu, Matrox Card, I Googled alot, i chance my Xorg.conf more than 100 times, I need help, how can use dual monitors with my jaunty, my xorg.conf is http://pastebin.com/m3d333198
[09:28] <dyjytyl> when i add a user in linux, and then login as them, why do i lose my colors in terminal?
[09:29] <Guest3565> Justice the slow/fidgity movement is worse, maybe cause I switched some stuff around in the game options, lemme try to fix, brb
[09:29] <shao> hello
[09:29] <chris062689> dyjytyl:  Each user has their own configuration file for terminal settings (like color), or are you saying that your own user loses his settings?
[09:29] <lstarnes> dyjytyl: their default shell may not have colors enabled by default
[09:30] <dyjytyl> chris062689: i dunno.. i just add, and expect it to be the same
[09:30] <dyjytyl> where can i copy the color settings?
[09:30] <lstarnes> dyjytyl: check your ~/.bashrc
[09:31] <eddy> cat /home/<old user>/.bashrc > ~/.bashrc
[09:32] <Blizzerand> !GPL
[09:32] <Blizzerand> !GDFL
[09:32] <lstarnes> !fishing > Blizzerand
[09:32] <Blizzerand> Is GDFL and GPL the same
[09:33] <eddy> Blizzerand, doubtful
[09:33] <lstarnes> Blizzerand: the GFDL is a different license
[09:33] <lstarnes> Blizzerand: mainly intended for documentation and artistic works instead of code
[09:34] <deamonunix> pm me
[09:34] <deamonunix> plsss
[09:34] <deamonunix> for ubuntu furom
[09:34] <bazhang> deamonunix, best to ask here
[09:34] <Blizzerand> lstarnes : Why it that command named fishing lol
[09:34] <bazhang> Blizzerand, please /msg ubottu in future
[09:35] <lstarnes> Blizzerand: if you understood fishing, you would probably be able to guess what it meant
[09:35] <Blizzerand> lol
[09:35] <deamonunix> tns
[09:35] <deamonunix> tnx
[09:35] <c0mp13371331337> This one's had me for a few hours now.  I'm trying to make a script that looks for files with a particular name and removes them, prompting first (rm -i).  Some files have spaces, so I have to catch these instances and use sed to escape any spaces it runs across.  Echoing the variable that I've saved the cleansed filename to shows that spaces are escaped correctly.  However, when it tries to rm the file (saved as a variable), it adds
[09:37] <bazhang> deamonunix, please ask in channel (ie not PM)
[09:37] <hanshenrik> i just installed ubuntu (with Wubi from WinXP), and i got 2x NTFS drives, C: (where XP is installed), and F: (where i backup stuff), i found F: and could mount it from "Computer" with no problem, but i cant find C: drive.. (both are NTFS), any ideas?
[09:37] <aethelrick> c0mp13371331337: when I'm doing this sort of thing I usually use a combination of find and an execed rm
[09:38] <aethelrick> c0mp13371331337: like... find -name bob -exec rm {} \;
[09:39] <sarthor> Hi, problem: i am not able to use dual monitors on my 9.04 Ubuntu, Matrox Card, I Googled alot, i chance my Xorg.conf more than 100 times, I need help, how can use dual monitors with my jaunty, my xorg.conf is http://pastebin.com/m3d333198
[09:40] <deamonunix> pm me pls
[09:40] <c0mp13371331337> aetherick: Thanks, testing right now.
[09:40] <deamonunix> help me pls
[09:41] <deamonunix> about on how to setup my own personal website
[09:41] <aethelrick> deamonunix: what do you want to know?
[09:41] <deamonunix> using ubuntu 9.04 server
[09:42] <Justicepsion> Does anyone know how I can make Ubiquity install to a drive other than the one it wants to install to?
[09:42] <deamonunix> what the things i would be neded
[09:42] <deamonunix> to my up my site
[09:42] <aethelrick> deamonunix: to setup a website, you need apache
[09:42] <deamonunix> then?
[09:42] <hanshenrik> deamounix: quick way, xampp maybe? :p
[09:42] <Justicepsion> You also need a domain name.
[09:42] <deamonunix> bad i have synamic IP
[09:43] <deamonunix> i mean dynamic
[09:43] <hanshenrik> no-ip.com got what they call "Dynamic updater client"
[09:43] <aethelrick> deamonunix: you can use dyndns or similar
[09:43] <deamonunix> a ok
[09:43] <aethelrick> deamonunix: I use ddclient to keep my DNS up to date
[09:43] <deamonunix> i have register to openDNS
[09:44] <deamonunix> but the problem is i dint know how to config
[09:44] <deamonunix> coz im a newbe
[09:44] <deamonunix> nebez
[09:44] <aethelrick> deamonunix: first things first... get apache installed
[09:44] <deamonunix> then?
[09:44] <eddy> deamonunix, i tell my router to use opendns's nameservers
[09:44] <sarthor> Hi, problem: i am not able to use dual monitors on my 9.04 Ubuntu, Matrox Card, I Googled alot, i chance my Xorg.conf more than 100 times, I need help, how can use dual monitors with my jaunty, my xorg.conf is http://pastebin.com/m3d333198
[09:44] <eddy> :-)
[09:44] <deamonunix> by the way wer u from?
[09:45] <deamonunix> im usign pfsense as my router
[09:45] <deamonunix> using ipStar direct sat link
[09:47] <deamonunix> ok
[09:48] <hanshenrik> could som1 please print that star character?
[09:48] <deamonunix> can u giv me a site wer i can find help?
[09:48] <deamonunix> or some HOWTO sites to up my site?
[09:49] <Myrtti> !lamp | deamonunix
[09:49] <alkisg> Is there any way to limit the bandwidth while doing `apt-get upgrade`? I mean, similar to wget --limit-rate...
[09:49] <Drained> anyone have any idea why wine suddenly stoped working? it was working a few minutes ago to run steam.exe but now it's unresponsive when i open it
[09:50] <hanshenrik> are you sure the wine process actually stops?
[09:50] <Drained> it doesn't start :\
[09:50] <deamonunix> tnx
[09:51] <deamonunix> thats all i ned?
[09:51] <eddy> sarthor, why do you have numbers before quotes and stuff?
[09:51] <deamonunix> lamp server can run even in dynamic ip?
[09:51] <lstarnes> deamonunix: yes
[09:52] <lstarnes> deamonunix: your domain name's IP just needs to update when your IP does, if you use domain names
[09:52] <eddy> sarthor, Screen          1 "screen1"     rightof "Default Screen"   ... should be: Screen "screen1" rightof "Default Screen"
[09:52] <eddy> no random numbers in it
[09:52] <sarthor> eddy, Ok
[09:52] <sarthor> eddy, let me remove that and relogin
[09:52] <eddy> sarthor, same for line above
[09:53] <sarthor> eddy, ok
[09:53] <deamonunix> ah ok
[09:53] <Steil> how come ubuntu remix does not detect my wifi or ethernet cafrd?
[09:53] <hanshenrik> Drained: this might sound microsoft-windows-ish, but tried to restart? :p
[09:53] <deamonunix> what is domain name?
[09:53] <hanshenrik> www.google.com
[09:54] <lstarnes> deamonunix: for example, ubuntu.com is a domain name
[09:54] <deamonunix> ah ok
[09:54] <eddy> sarthor, you don't need Screen 1 in your device1 section, either
[09:54] <deamonunix> the name of site
[09:54] <deamonunix> tns
[09:54] <aaron11> Helo this is the second time im using ubuntu fourms and had a serious problem i have been told to run sudo apt-get clean and then
[09:54] <sarthor> eddy, Ok. let me remove that too
[09:54] <aaron11> when i click on the applications menu to start up the terminal there only came a small white box.This was very odd to me because lots and lots of people ran sudo apt-get clean and had no problems. I tried oppening menu editor (acarlate)from the terminal and system --> preferences --> menu editor, but it did not apear. When i ran it from the terminal i got this error: http://pastebin.ca/1572652 i t
[09:54] <aaron11> hink im missing a python library please see: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=7978122#post7978122
[09:54] <FloodBot2> aaron11: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[09:54] <lodder> I'm trying to install eclipse in karmic but i'm getting the following error:
[09:54] <eddy> what a messy xorg.conf
[09:55] <lodder> I'm trying to install eclipse in karmic but i'm getting the following error: Broken packages... Can this be resolved ? Or do I have to wait?
[09:55] <aaron11> FloodBot i didnt flod
[09:55] <bazhang> lodder, #ubuntu+1 for karmic
[09:55] <lodder> j #ubuntu+1
[09:56] <deamonunix> after the installation of lamp my website will run?
[09:56] <lodder> bazhang thx
[09:56] <frogzoo> !flash
[09:56] <lstarnes> deamonunix: it should
[09:56] <deamonunix> ok
[09:56] <deamonunix> tnx alot
[09:56] <spOO`> hi
[09:56] <deamonunix> wer u from?
[09:56] <eddy> man i'm beat, time to hit the sack
[09:56] <lstarnes> deamonunix: however, it is recommended that you install the components of the lamp stack separately instead of using xampp
[09:56] <deamonunix> lstarnes?
[09:57] <deamonunix> ok
[09:58] <deamonunix> can i ask you a Step by step process on how to run it?
[09:58] <deamonunix> can u email me?
[09:58] <spO> deluge usually crashes for reasons i am not sure of (the log file does not really give errors) ... i would like for it to be able to respawn if it is not running. i could have done this with inittab , but ubuntu doesn't use that anymore
[09:58] <deamonunix><EMAIL_ADDRESS>[09:58] <lstarnes> deamonunix: communication via irc is preferred
[09:59] <lstarnes> deamonunix: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP should work
[09:59] <Myrtti> !pm | deamonunix
[09:59] <deamonunix> ok
[10:00] <deamonunix> i so thankful
[10:00] <rdm> do you know if some lib of ubuntu studio go in conflict with flashplayer plugins ???
[10:00] <rdm> hi boys
[10:00] <deamonunix> that i entered this room
[10:00] <hanshenrik> seriously? some ppl find it rude to be pmed without permission?
[10:00] <deamonunix> tnx u s mch guys
[10:00] <Myrtti> hanshenrik: yes.
[10:00] <hanshenrik> hmm, kay
[10:02] <IpSe_DiXiT> if an application makes my screen resolution bigger in order to work but then it crashes and leaves the screen with that resolution making it impossible for me to use, how do i find and kill what is causing? (ps aux | grep ??) or how do i simply put it back as it was, yesterday i tried many things from tt1 but in the end i had to reboot, i'd like to avoid it. any idea? thanks
[10:02] <hrickards> Is it possible for me to change something so that the xplash throbber doesn't go up and down (in 9.10)?
[10:02] <bazhang> hrickards, karmic help in #ubuntu+1
[10:02] <ortsvorsteher> !karmic | hrickards
[10:02] <hrickards> Okay
[10:03] <Guest53353> hi any body knows how to use pidgin  messenger?????
[10:03] <alkisg> IpSe_DiXiT: first, run xrandr in a terminal, and find out how to change modes with that. Then assign your favorite resolution to a gnome shortcut, e.g. alt+ctrl+1 ==> 1280x800.
[10:03] <dyjytyl> err
[10:03] <dyjytyl> how do i pass the password as a parameter in ssh
[10:03] <BaGy> Guest53353 try amsn
[10:03] <dyjytyl> ssh user@server -p (-p doesnt work, its port)
[10:04] <Guest53353> bagy i didnt get you.........
[10:04] <alkisg> dyjytyl: google for passwordless ssh. You don't pass the password as a param.
[10:04] <IpSe_DiXiT> alkisg: so u think even without closing the application thatz causing the problem i can reassign the resolution i want?
[10:04] <ortsvorsteher> dyjytyl: you can generate a ssh key if you like. it could have an empty phrase
[10:04] <alkisg> IpSe_DiXiT: yes
[10:05] <ortsvorsteher> !ssh-keygen | dyjytyl
[10:05] <spO> now that ubuntu doesn't use inittab , how do i respawn a process?
[10:05] <dyjytyl> thanks
[10:05] <ortsvorsteher> dyjytyl: try in an terminal "man ssh-keygen"
[10:05] <llutz> dyjytyl: you cannot pass password because it would be shown plain in processlist, which is a security break
[10:05] <IpSe_DiXiT> alkisg: ok cool, also i wasnt able to use my mouse, the keyboard i could use but just for writing in the quarter of screen i was able to see at that resolution
[10:06] <alkisg> IpSe_DiXiT: try it, and if you get stuck anywhere ping me
[10:06] <IpSe_DiXiT> alkisg: alright thanks, can i do it from tt1 or it has to be from a terminal?
[10:07] <spO> do any of you know what i am supposed to do, i want to respawn deluge
[10:07] <brb> hello anyone can use pidgin here?????????/
[10:07] <alkisg> IpSe_DiXiT: you need to be in an x session when you do it
[10:07] <Dr_Willis> spO:  sudo servicename restart
[10:07] <Dr_Willis> spO:  sudo service servicename restart
[10:07] <Dr_Willis> :) oops
[10:07] <alkisg> IpSe_DiXiT: so you can't do it from vt1. E.g. from withing the problematic app, you just press alt+ctrl+1.
[10:07] <alkisg> IpSe_DiXiT: (not alt+ctrl+F1 - I mean the shortcut that you put to change resolution)
[10:08] <IpSe_DiXiT> alkisg: isnt tt1 one? (is the second command u suggested ctrl + alt + "number one" or "letter l" cuz in case itz an L i use that combo to lock the screen
[10:08] <Guest12217> hello can anyone hear me?????
[10:08] <Haruki> Hello all. I am new to Ubuntu using my Windows XP Professional setup right now.
[10:08] <spO> no, sometimes deluge crashes, i want to respawn deluge only if it crashes.... but ubuntu doesn't use inittab anymore
[10:09] <DryGrain> yes Guest12217
[10:09] <spO> i don't want to have to monitor my system to see if the deamon crashes or not
[10:09] <alkisg> IpSe_DiXiT: ok let me change the example shortcut: With you assign "alt+ctrl+r" to xrandr --output default --mode 1280x800. Then within the game, you just press alt+ctrl+r.
[10:09] <Myrtti> Gussi: yes we can use pidgin, you need to be more specific with your question
[10:09] <DryGrain> irc works
[10:09] <Myrtti> Gussi: sorry
[10:09] <spO> manutally monitor i mean
[10:09] <Guest12217> i have some problem wid pidgin..........
[10:09] <Myrtti> Guest12217: yes we can use pidgin, you need to be more specific with your question
[10:09] <nemo_> irc://irc.darkartika.net/nol1m1t3d
[10:09] <Guest12217> can you briefly tellme how to use it?????
[10:10] <Myrtti> Guest12217: you're not being specific with what problems you've got with it, help us to help you
[10:10] <IpSe_DiXiT> alkisg: xrandr only gives me this http://paste.ubuntu.com/274565/ how do i change key-shortcuts and stuff?
[10:10] <Guest12217> i do not know how to start with pidgin............
[10:10] <nathan7> Cookies.
[10:11] <alkisg> IpSe_DiXiT: first, try to change resolutions: xrandr --output default --mode 1360x768
[10:11] <deamonunix> go to application - Internet-pigin
[10:11] <O__o> just found something very interesting on youtube about ubuntu http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SJaTA25tpMg
[10:11] <IpSe_DiXiT> Guest12217: u go on accounts > create accounts > add > choose ur protocol (could be MSN, yahoo, or whatever) put username and password click on connect
[10:12] <alkisg> IpSe_DiXiT: Does it work? Then, put the resolution back with: xrandr --output default --mode 1360x768
[10:12] <IpSe_DiXiT> alkisg: is the same command :D
[10:12] <moymoy> i start mplayer in tty1 to play some mp3's .. but the audio cuts off when i start into X .. how do i make it persist?
[10:12] <alkisg> IpSe_DiXiT: sorry, I meant put the resolution back with xrandr --output default --mode 1440x900
[10:12] <alkisg>  :)
[10:12] <Guest3565> Thanks for everyones help on my game, I finally got it to work right using wine of course and directx9 !!
[10:13] <Guest12217> where do you find accounts
[10:13] <Myrtti> Guest12217: do you have pidgin launched?
[10:13] <Myrtti> Guest12217: which language interface do you have?
[10:13] <Guest12217> english
[10:14] <varunthacker> i want to make a fresh ubuntu installer which has all the latest updates and a few extra packages.which gui software which will help me make a new iso.
[10:14] <IpSe_DiXiT> alkisg: it does work but look http://paste.ubuntu.com/274569/
[10:14] <Dr_Willis> !remaster
[10:14] <moymoy> varunthacker: i think you're talking about remastersys
[10:14] <IpSe_DiXiT> Guest12217: what u mean where do u find "accounts" just run pidgin and its in its upper panel!!!!
[10:14] <Guest12217> since a long time i`m getting "connecting"......but its not getting connected
[10:15] <aaron11> whois aaron11
[10:15] <IpSe_DiXiT> Guest12217: double check ur password and username
[10:15] <moymoy> i start mplayer in tty1 to play some mp3's .. but the audio cuts off when i start into X .. how do i make it persist?
[10:15] <aaron11> helo
[10:15] <IpSe_DiXiT> moymoy: try running the application in the gui from a terminal
[10:16] <alkisg> IpSe_DiXiT: well, if it works you can just ignore your graphics card module errors ;) Now, to assign a shortcut... do you have compiz enabled or not?
[10:16] <varunthacker> i dont want to make a live cd of my current system state.I want some specific packages.Does remastersys give me an option on that one?
[10:16] <moymoy> IpSe_DiXiT: i tried that, but i just didn't want any visible window or icon on my desktop
[10:16] <aaron11> whois bert_
[10:16] <IpSe_DiXiT> or open a terminal writing "dmesg" and leave it open then do whatever u were doing before and wait for the crash, then goto read on the dmesg window what happene
[10:16] <IpSe_DiXiT> happened
[10:17] <IpSe_DiXiT> alkisg: yep
[10:17] <sjoos_> Guest12217: what protocol? there were issues with yahoo
[10:17] <aaron11> Helo this is the second time im using ubuntu fourms and had a serious problem i have been told to run sudo apt-get clean and then when i click on the applications menu to start up the terminal there only came a small white box.This was very odd to me because lots and lots of people ran sudo apt-get clean and had no problems. I tried oppening menu editor (acarlate)from the terminal and system...
[10:17] <aaron11> ...--> preferences --> menu editor, but it did not apear. When i ran it from the terminal i got this error: http://pastebin.ca/1572652 i think im missing a python library please see: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=7978122#post7978122
[10:18] <aaron11> umbie thapum
[10:18] <aaron11> is anyone ghet
[10:18] <stefano_> hello
[10:18] <aaron11> yes
[10:18] <alkisg> IpSe_DiXiT: there's a settings editor for compiz, but I don't use compiz so I don't remember its name. That settings editors has a panel with the shortcut editor. There you can put the "custom command" I think it supports up to 12 of them. I have 12 different resolutions with alt+ctrl+something shortcuts ... :)
[10:18] <Pirate_Hunter> can links(2) use tab function?
[10:18] <Guest12217> what protocol should i use??///
[10:19] <MarcoPau> hello, I get fail at starting mysql database server mysqld when booting ubuntu. do you guys have any hint? I can't find any mysql log file apparently
[10:19] <Steil> guest rsynx
[10:19] <IpSe_DiXiT> alkisg: yeah yeah i no about it :D thanks mate
[10:19] <alkisg> IpSe_DiXiT: you're welcome :)
[10:20] <Myrtti> Guest12217: you should know it yourself
[10:20] <IpSe_DiXiT> Guest12217: do you want to use pidgin to get connected on MSN, on YAHOO, on what PROTOCOL?
[10:20] <Guest12217> yahoo
[10:20] <IpSe_DiXiT> Guest12217: thatz why ur having trouble, there have been some issues lately with it, u should do some websearch to find out
[10:20] <aaron11> !pidgin | Guest12217
[10:21] <IpSe_DiXiT> Guest12217: if u have an MSN account or an ICQ account u should try to get them connected just to check if ur pidgin works correctly, if it does then the prob is Yahoo, and itz cuz of their servers, not pidgin's fault :D got it???
[10:21] <Guest12217> why can you not use yahoo messenger in ubuntu???/
[10:22] <alienbrain> Guest12217: Because Yahoo didn't release a compatible version
[10:22] <IpSe_DiXiT> Guest12217: im no really sure you understand us when we talk to you, read again what i wrote and try to comprehend, bye
[10:25] <moymoy> IpSe_DiXiT: i tried that, but i just didn't want any visible window or icon on my desktop
[10:25] <moymoy> any help?
[10:25] <moymoy> i start mplayer in tty1 to play some mp3's .. but the audio cuts off when i start into X .. how do i make it persist?
[10:27] <IpSe_DiXiT> moymoy: i gotta go, try asking for support on #mplayer
[10:27] <Walex> moymoy: what does "audio cuts off when i start into X" mean?
[10:27] <IpSe_DiXiT> cu guys ;)
[10:27] <alienbrain> moymoy: weird, that doesn't happen here. It works fine regardless of switching to X
[10:27] <moymoy> Walex: i was in the terminal when i started mplayer
[10:28] <moymoy> alienbrain: hmm can you reproduce it by switching to tty and back to X?
[10:28] <Walex> moymoy: which terminal? An X terminal or the basic Linux console?
[10:28] <moymoy> alienbrain: which sound system are you using with mplayer?
[10:28] <moymoy> Walex: the console
[10:28] <alienbrain> moymoy: there is a small cut while I'm switching (about .5 sec), but it works fine
[10:29] <alienbrain> moymoy: pulse
[10:29] <moymoy> alienbrain: are you playing from the console? or are you playing with a gui app like rhythmbox?
[10:29] <Walex> moymoy: perhaps yoru X session starts a sound server, and the sound server get exclusive control of the audio.
[10:29] <aaron11> Helo this is the second time im using ubuntu fourms and had a serious problem i have been told to run sudo apt-get clean and then when i click on the applications menu to start up the terminal there only came a small white box.This was very odd to me because lots and lots of people ran sudo apt-get clean and had no problems. I tried oppening menu editor (acarlate)from the terminal and system...
[10:29] <aaron11> ...--> preferences --> menu editor, but it did not apear. When i ran it from the terminal i got this error: http://pastebin.ca/1572652 i think im missing a python library please see: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=7978122#post7978122
[10:29] <lmc> ?
[10:29] <Walex> moymoy: or perhaps it does not get exclusive control, but just resets the volume to zero.
[10:29] <moymoy> Walex: but i can hear the music again when switching back to the console
[10:29] <alienbrain> moymoy: from a console, tty1 :)
[10:30] <moymoy> alienbrain: not fair! lol
[10:30] <Walex> moymoy: that sounds nearly impossible.
[10:30] <moymoy> alienbrain: at this point, i'm desparate enough to reason that it's not working because i'm using it on tty2
[10:30] <installfromparti> how do i install ubuntu directly from a hard drive partition without cd or usb?
[10:30] <alienbrain> moymoy: lol :)
[10:30] <moymoy> Walex: appearantly it is
[10:31] <alienbrain> moymoy: can you try playing it in a screen? (screen command)
[10:31] <moymoy> Walex: when i start a session in X, it persists when i switch to a console and back
[10:31] <moymoy> Walex: but not the other way around
[10:31] <Walex> moymoy: the X server by itself does nothing to the sound system. It can be a sound server, but once started it should not be affected by changes like that.
[10:31] <ortsvorsteher> !install | installfromparti
[10:34] <installfromparti> ortsvorsteher: wow, a lot of work, i thought ubuntu was supposed to be easy?
[10:35] <ortsvorsteher> installfromparti, after you installed it, it will be easy ;)
[10:35] <alienbrain> Does somebody know where apxs2 tool from Apache is? The only package that provides it is apache2-threaded-dev which as the name suggests is for the threaded MPM. I'm looking for the Prefork MPM one.
[10:35] <ortsvorsteher> installfromparti, but, i installed it never from hd, everytime from cd and once from usb. and it worked fine and easy!
[10:36] <deamonunix> help
[10:36] <deamonunix> how yo intall and config squid?
[10:36] <installfromparti> ortsvorsteher: i have already tried to install it twice, once by editing grub as described per the instructions
[10:37] <ortsvorsteher> installfromparti: and it worked?
[10:37] <installfromparti> ortsvorsteher: no, thats why i have to reinstall again
[10:37] <installfromparti> ortsvorsteher: is there a way to boot to ubuntu without grub, usb, or cd?
[10:38] <installfromparti> ortsvorsteher: aka without a boot loader or external non-hd media
[10:38] <ortsvorsteher> installfromparti: i didnt readed the manual cause it worked for me by installing from cd/usb. so i have no idea sorry ...
[10:38] <ortsvorsteher> installfromparti: may it works by installing over the net?
[10:39] <installfromparti> ortsvorsteher: ubuntu 9.04 and 9.10 stopped supporting my wireless card, maybe i should try an older version, such as 8.04?
[10:39] <ortsvorsteher> installfromparti: yes, you can. after that you can upgrade
[10:39] <aaron11> Helo this is the second time im using ubuntu fourms and had a serious problem i have been told to run sudo apt-get clean and then when i click on the applications menu to start up the terminal there only came a small white box.This was very odd to me because lots and lots of people ran sudo apt-get clean and had no problems. I tried oppening menu editor (acarlate)from the terminal and system...
[10:39] <aaron11> ...--> preferences --> menu editor, but it did not apear. When i ran it from the terminal i got this error: http://pastebin.ca/1572652 i think im missing a python library please see: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=7978122#post7978122
[10:40] <gadis> tegal
[10:40] <moymoy> Walex: i'll show you now
[10:41] <installfromparti> !ethernet boot
[10:41] <Neosano> Hello guys! Hibernate and suspend are not working on my laptop! Using Ubuntu 9.04 :(
[10:42] <Neosano> suspend doesn't resume, or resumes with lots of errors
[10:42] <installfromparti> !pxe | installfromparti
[10:42] <Walex> Neosano: thanks for letting us know. :-)
[10:42] <ortsvorsteher> installfromparti: you can search the bot by "/msg ubottu !install" try also "!bot"
[10:42] <silvano> Come mi registro?
[10:42] <geirha> aaron11: Hm. You're not out of space? « df -h ~ »
[10:42] <ortsvorsteher> !it | silvano
[10:42] <moymoy> Walex: http://borringston.ath.cx/Xstops.avi
[10:43] <Neosano> So what can I do?
[10:43] <installfromparti> ortsvorsteher: my irc client doesn't support private messages
[10:43] <leo> hi
[10:43] <lstarnes> installfromparti: which client is that?
[10:43] <Walex> silvano: to register with freenode, instructions on the website.
[10:43] <installfromparti> irssi
[10:43] <leo> !list
[10:43] <lstarnes> installfromparti: that's nonsense.  of course it supports private messages
[10:44] <lstarnes> installfromparti: you just have to get used to switching between windoes
[10:44] <lstarnes> *windows
[10:44] <Walex> moymoy: dowloading, as I am curious.
[10:44] <installfromparti> lstarnes: haven't figured that out yet
[10:44] <lstarnes> installfromparti: you can use /win <number> or alt+number
[10:44] <Neosano> so, errr.. any help here?
[10:44] <installfromparti> lstarnes: wow, thanks
[10:44] <lstarnes> installfromparti: there is also the channel #irssi
[10:45] <junkbit> Neosano, it's quite a big subject, best start would be to search for your model number on the forums
[10:45] <longtime> Hi
[10:45] <void_pointer> hehe .. OT .. but it's like first time vim users saying the arrow keys don't work and asking how they can quit ...
[10:45] <lstarnes> void_pointer: like vim, irssi has a bit of a learning curve
[10:46] <lstarnes> void_pointer: after some time using them, they both become easy to use
[10:46] <moymoy> Walex: recorded with mencoder... there was a slight audio delay.. i'm gonna try to get a better recording from cheese while you download
[10:46] <void_pointer> lstarnes yep, we all had to start somewhere
[10:46] <longtime> Would anyone know of a website where I could do some in depth reading about ssh
[10:46] <void_pointer> lstarnes couldn't live without vi keys on the command line myself :)
[10:46] <Neosano> junkbit, ubuntuforums?
[10:47] <Walex> moymoy: from your video it looks like that it stops when you switch away from the current console, not when it enters X.
[10:47] <ortsvorsteher> longtime, may you search the web or you try the manpage from ssh?
[10:48] <Walex> moymoy: have you tried another MP3 player like 'mpg123' or 'mpg321'?
[10:48] <installfromparti> ortsvorsteher: what is the program to host pxe for ubuntu (found in synaptic)?
[10:48] <junkbit> Neosano, yes if you search for your model laptop on ubuntuforums.org or google you may find someone else has had the same problem
[10:48] <moymoy> Walex: nope
[10:49] <ortsvorsteher> installfromparti, is there nothing described in manual? i never used pxe... :(
[10:49] <moymoy> Walex: didn't think it'd matter
[10:49] <longtime> Will do ortsvorsteher, Peace!
[10:49] <Walex> moymoy: I also just tried the very same here ('mplayer' on console and swtiching to X) and it did not stop. But my setup is somewhat peculiar.
[10:49] <installfromparti> ortsvorsteher: the manual lists x programs, i just want one program to setup a server, like thttpd, or something easy
[10:49] <Walex> moymoy: conceivably your version of 'mplayer' detects it is no longer the foreground application and pauses until it becomes the foregound application again.
[10:50] <ortsvorsteher> installfrompartil, i am really sorry, i never used this way for installing so i have no experience for that...
[10:50] <moymoy> Walex: that's clever...... it's TOO clever for its own good
[10:50] <Walex> moymoy: no sure, but it could be the case. Some video players do that.
[10:51] <Machtin> hi guys.. i tried to make s2api.. what went wrong? http://pastebin.org/18984
[10:51] <moymoy> if i set the command with sleep 2 && in front of it
[10:51] <Walex> moymoy: also, can you play *two* MP3s at the same time in the console (e.g. 'mplayer a.mp3& mplayer b.mp3&')?
[10:52] <moymoy> Walex: if i set the command with sleep 2 && in front of it and quickly switch to X, i can hear the music.. but once i switch to con and back, it's gone
[10:52] <Walex> moymoy: that is really weird.
[10:53] <aaron113> im aaron11
[10:53] <Walex> moymoy: another things to try...
[10:53] <alienbrain> moymoy: did you try screen?
[10:53] <aaron11> ok
[10:53] <aaron113> ok
[10:53] <Walex> moymoy: do 'ls -l /dev/snd' from the console and then in an X terminal once you have switched.
[10:53] <moymoy> alienbrain: i tried screen, it works in that i can start the command while in X and i can hear the music.. but it the sound disappears once i switch to console and back to X
[10:54] <moymoy> Walex: it's all owned by root and in the group audio
[10:54] <Walex> moymoy: the other possibility is that the ownership of the sound device files changes when in X, if you are logged in with a different user.
[10:54] <Walex> moymoy: then the final option...
[10:54] <benn> hello everybody
[10:54] <alienbrain> moymoy: but if you execute mplayer from inside a screen on tty then detach it and switch to X, what happens?
[10:55] <Walex> moymoy: start 'mplayer' like this: 'strace 2> /tmp/mplayer.str mplayer file.mp3' and test again.
[10:55] <benn> hmm..where is the list off all the users?
[10:55] <moymoy> alienbrain: nothing
[10:55] <Walex> moymoy: that will make clear what happens when you switch to X and back (at least on the mplayer side).
[10:55] <benn> i have a problem when i compie the kernel
[10:55] <Walex> benn: depends which users.
[10:55] <benn> sound/sound_core.c: In function ‘sound_insert_unit’:
[10:55] <benn> sound/sound_core.c:174: warning: format not a string literal and no format arguments
[10:55] <benn> and other error appears
[10:56] <benn> most of them with the usb
[10:56] <Walex> benn: that's not an error, but a warning.
[10:56] <benn> that means that everything is ok?
[10:56] <benn> i mean...everything will be ok if i put this compiled kernel?
[10:57] <Neosano> junkbit, well, I tried s2ram -f to force suspend and it worked a bit... I was able to see gnome but with lots of errors
[10:58] <sarthor>  Hi, problem: i am not able to use dual monitors on my 9.04 Ubuntu, Matrox Card, I Googled alot, i chance my Xorg.conf more than 100 times, I need help, how can use dual monitors with my jaunty, my xorg.conf is http://pastebin.com/m3d333198
[10:59] <tdn> How do I install libopencore in Ubuntu 9.04?
[11:00] <PerryArmstrong> hey can anyone help me...my system just freezes frequently...the menus dont get selected...and everything on desktop freezes
[11:00] <Walex> sarthor: pehaps use another card. The MGA450 is ancient and bugs mayb have crept in.
[11:00] <moymoy> Walex: http://borringston.ath.cx/mplayer.str
[11:00] <Walex> sarthor: there are several examples of dual head here (with the old style server) here: http://www.sabi.co.uk/Cfg/X11/
[11:01] <moymoy> Walex: i went in and out of X 5 times
[11:01] <sarthor> Walex, :) this card working with some people, and also i am using with xp,
[11:01] <Walex> sarthor: the latest versions of X have been changed a lot and who knows whether that card is still really supported.
[11:02] <moymoy> Walex: a whole series of this occures when i switch to X
[11:02] <moymoy> nanosleep({0, 31000000}, NULL)          = 0
[11:02] <Walex> moymoy: yes, noticed, very weird.
[11:04] <Neosano> hmm
[11:04] <Neosano> maybe there's something wrong with bios
[11:04] <Walex> moymoy: just to be sure, rerurn it adding option '-tt' just after 'strace'
[11:04] <Blaspheme> yau
[11:05] <Guest86160> hi
[11:05] <benn> help pls..after compiling the kernel, i give the command:mkinitramfs -o /boot/initrd.img-<IP_ADDRESS>-rt16 <IP_ADDRESS>-rt16
[11:05] <Blaspheme> q+
[11:05] <Walex> moymoy: actually add both '-tt -f'
[11:05] <benn> after that:Cannot find /lib/modules/<IP_ADDRESS>-rt16
[11:05] <PerryArmstrong> hey can anyone help me...my system just freezes frequently...the menus dont get selected...and everything on desktop freezes
[11:06] <Walex> PerryArmstrong: that is a bit vague. It could be a hw problem due to power or heat.
[11:06] <cgroza> PerryArmstrong:tell me you system information
[11:06] <Walex> PerryArmstrong: check you system log with 'sudo less /var/log/messages' to see if there is any obvious error
[11:06] <cgroza> PerryArmstrong:How much RAM do you have?
[11:07] <PerryArmstrong> cgroza; core 2 duo   1 GB RAM 160 GB HDD
[11:07] <cgroza> PerryArmstrong:thats more than enough for ubuntu
[11:07] <moymoy> Walex: http://borringston.ath.cx/mplayer.str
[11:07] <tdn> How do I install these two packages in 9.04 libopencore-amrnb-dev libopencore-amrwb-dev ?
[11:07] <PerryArmstrong> cgroza; but this issue started recently
[11:07] <cgroza> PerryArmstrong:do you have visual efects to maximum?
[11:08] <PerryArmstrong> cgroza; in the sense?? i have compiz
[11:08] <diavolo77> ciao
[11:08] <digifor> What does the "d"  mean in "drwxr"?
[11:08] <cgroza> PerryArmstrong:how much Video RAM do you have?
[11:08] <moymoy> Walex: all looks like gibberish to me
[11:08] <sahil> wow
[11:08] <ortsvorsteher> digifor: it stands for directory
[11:08] <PerryArmstrong> cgroza; i dont know about that...any way to check it
[11:09] <LMJ> Hello
[11:09] <cgroza> PerryArmstrong:check... low VRAM can cause this
[11:09] <digifor> thanks ortsvorsteher
[11:09] <ortsvorsteher> :)
[11:09] <PerryArmstrong> Walex; there are so many messages....i forgot the unix commands that i have learnt...can you tell me how to copy it to a file
[11:09] <LMJ> do you know a software who deals with video (webcam) and voice (voip) over network and/or Internet  peer to peer (between a lan, sea & speach between collegues)
[11:10] <PerryArmstrong> cgroza; my monitor is an old one...almost 10 years
[11:10] <cgroza> PerryArmstrong:not your monitor
[11:10] <benn> can someone help me with this ? : http://wiki.fragaholics.de/index.php/EN:Linux_Kernel_Optimization
[11:11] <junkbit> LMJ Skype runs on linux
[11:11] <kapil> LMJ: try ekiga
[11:11] <LMJ> skype :-/
[11:11] <LMJ> cool
[11:11] <LMJ> peer 2 peer or via a website ?
[11:11] <moymoy> PerryArmstrong: what are you trying to do?
[11:11] <junkbit> p2p
[11:11] <kapil> ekiga can connect peer-to-peer if both sites are on the internet
[11:12] <PerryArmstrong> cgroza; i almost forgot for sometime when my system freezed i my monitor was like blinking
[11:12] <sahil> hey is there any way to stop peers ubuntu transmiiton bit-client??
[11:12] <kapil> otherwise it needs NAT traversal (STUN)
[11:12] <Walex> benn: that is a moderately advanced sort of work. You probably don't need it either; it just makes things a bit faster.
[11:12] <cgroza> PerryArmstrong:what video card are u using?
[11:12] <PerryArmstrong> moymoy; this is the command: sudo less /var/log/messages  whats the command to save it in a file
[11:12] <benn> walex i really nedd that
[11:12] <Walex> LMJ: Ekiga? Also check the Google-acquired one, can't remember the name.
[11:13] <LMJ> cool ekiga, thanks
[11:13] <Walex> moymoy: still looking at your strace
[11:13] <PerryArmstrong> cgroza; i dont know about it...i think its vga....i am ignorant about it
[11:13] <ctx144k> hello all
[11:13] <cgroza> PerryArmstrong:in terminal type sudo apt-get install sysinfo
[11:14] <benn> when i give the command:mkinitramfs -o /boot/initrd.img-<IP_ADDRESS>-rt16 <IP_ADDRESS>-rt16
[11:14] <ctx144k> anyone knows when ubuntu9.10 beta1 will reday?
[11:14] <cgroza> it will install an app and you will be able to find out you sys specs
[11:14] <benn> it gives me:Cannot find /lib/modules/<IP_ADDRESS>-rt16
[11:14] <harisund> Why the heck does "killall gnome-panel" keep restarting gnome-panel? How do I remove gnome-panel once and for all?
[11:14] <moymoy> Walex: you're on fire today, helping 5 people at the same time and looking through my strace... i just want to thank you in advance for staying with my case
[11:14] <Walex> moymoy: as a curiosity, in your console, what does 'echo $DISPLAY' print?
[11:14] <sahil> I need to install graphics driver. would u guys suggest me some??????????
[11:15] <moymoy> Walex: it prints nothing
[11:15] <LMJ> is twinkle can connect peer to peer ?
[11:16] <Walex> moymoy: that's good. I was wondering. There seems to be definitely an effect on 'mplayer' from switching, which is very odd. That is 'mplayer' detects the switch and changes behaviour. Odd.
[11:16] <harisund> Anybody? How do I kill gnome-panel people?
[11:16] <Walex> moymoy: try with 'mpg123' to double check this is 'mplayer' specific.
[11:16] <moymoy> Walex: hmm yeah.. that seems to be the problem.. good call
[11:17] <kaizener> hi
[11:17] <moymoy> Walex: i exported the display variable to 0 and now i can hear the audio anytime.. in any tty also.. don't even have to be logged in to them
[11:17] <Walex> harisund: repeat your question every 5-10 minutes. Unless of course you have the Platinum Account that entitles you to a response within a minute.
[11:17] <LMJ> lol
[11:18] <Machtin> how to install s2api?
[11:18] <kaizener> do you know any ubuntu version for internet cafe with management software
[11:18] <benn> when i give the command:mkinitramfs -o /boot/initrd.img-<IP_ADDRESS>-rt16 <IP_ADDRESS>-rt16   it gives me:Cannot find /lib/modules/<IP_ADDRESS>-rt16.what is the problem?
[11:20] <refugiado> Ben64, you don't have kernel modules installed
[11:20] <refugiado> damm too late.
[11:20] <refugiado> =D
[11:20] <refugiado> Benn, you don't have kernel modules installed
[11:21] <Neosano> Hello again, searched forums for my amilo k7600 - nothing. When trying to go out of the suspend it shows lots of lines with some kind of EXT3 errors saying about directory offset or smth
[11:21] <benn> refugiado: tar zxf linux-<IP_ADDRESS>.tar.gz
[11:21] <benn> cd linux-<IP_ADDRESS>
[11:21] <benn> zcat ../patch-<IP_ADDRESS>-rt16.gz | patch -p1
[11:21] <benn>    i`ve done this
[11:21] <FloodBot2> benn: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:21] <Walex> moymoy: it looks like you have configured 'mplayer' to use Pulse and messagebus...
[11:21] <moymoy> Walex: hmmm it was a fluke.. it doesn't work anymore
[11:22] <refugiado> benn have you already compiled and installed the new kernel after patch?
[11:22] <benn> refugiado: i`ve just compiled the kernel
[11:22] <level09> how to change root pass throug ssh
[11:22] <meshuggah> how can i install nvidia driverÉ
[11:23] <benn> refugiado: can we talk in PM?
[11:23] <refugiado> benn , already 'make modules'?
[11:23] <louigi> if I do not have modules.conf which file do I use?
[11:23] <Neosano> Walex, can it be a swap problem? Because I'm using swap file
[11:23] <piers> hi guys need help in kubuntu
[11:23] <Neosano> piers, just ask
[11:23] <kaizener> linux for internet cafes?
[11:23] <PerryArmstrong> cgroza; i ran the command
[11:23] <Walex> Neosano: it could be that you are overloading the system and it is swapping.
[11:24] <piers> Neosano, Private chat?
[11:24] <Neosano> piers, no, here :]
[11:24] <Walex> Neosano: the other suggestion is to run 'vmstat 1' in an X terminal window and check what happens when the system slow down.
[11:24] <moymoy> Walex: it's not mplayer specific.. it happens for mpg123 also
[11:24] <louigi> if I do not have etc/modules.conf which file do I use? can I use etc/modules ?
[11:24] <ctx144k> meshuggah, do u using kubuntu or ubuntu?
[11:24] <n-iCe> hi
[11:24] <cgroza__> hello ,why every time i right click the menu shows up and then goes away?
[11:25] <piers> Neosano, ok have kubuntu and accidentally deleted network manager now cant connect to any network
[11:25] <meshuggah> ctx144k, ubuntu with e17
[11:25] <Neosano> Walex, I'm sorry, what are you talking about? :D I'm trying to suspend! It suspends fine, but when I go back it shows some errors
[11:25] <Walex> Neosano: also if the system slows down when you do lots of IO (like copying files) that's expected and there are workarounds.
[11:25] <cgroza__> its not my mouse in windows every thing works fine
[11:25] <Walex> Neosano: sorry confused you with the guy whose system freezes occasionally.
[11:25] <ctx144k> perhapos u should switch one time to "gnome"
[11:25] <Neosano> Walex, when hibernating it just shows these EXT3 errors and I have to reboot
[11:25] <piers> gnome works almost perfectly
[11:26] <Walex> Neosano: plenty of systems have difficulty with suspend-to-disk. Most however work with suspend-to-ram.
[11:26] <ctx144k> there ull find in Admin-Menu a programm "Hardware-Driver"
[11:26] <barry> Hi. Can I improve performance of flash player especially in fullscreen? My hardware is old but flash player works fine in XP in VMware on ubuntu.
[11:26] <Neosano> Walex, Ubuntu is just freshly installed
[11:26] <ctx144k> with that u can install ur drivers in ome seconds
[11:26] <Walex> Neosano: it all depends on the BIOS of your system and the specific drivers.
[11:26] <piers> Neosano, do update 1st fixed most of my probs
[11:26] <hanshenrik> installed ubuntu (with Wubi from WinXP), and i got 2x NTFS drives, C: (where XP is installed), and F: (where i backup stuff), i found F: and could mount it from "Computer" with no problem, but i cant find C: drive.. (both are NTFS), any ideas?
[11:26] <Neosano> piers, I'm newbie in linux :) Don't ask me :(
[11:27] <louigi> if I do not have etc/modules.conf which file do I use? can I use etc/modules ? guys? =)
[11:27] <louigi> anyone? =)
[11:27] <piers> Neosano, ok
[11:27] <Walex> moymoy: still looking at the 'strace'. But try another thing: stop the Pulse server and check whether it still happens. Also, I have 'strace'd my 'mplayer' and it does not use Pulse or messagebus...
[11:27] <meshuggah> ctx144k, i tried it and it screw up ubuntu so bad i needed to deleted the xorg.conf if not it bugged and jammed
[11:27] <Neosano> hanshenrik, try places/* gb media
[11:27] <piers> any1 know how to delete a partition using gnome
[11:27] <moymoy> hanshenrik: you can't see the C: drive in ubuntu because ubuntu IS running off of that drive.. to be able to see everything, you'll need to do a proper install of ubuntu
[11:27] <Walex> louigi: check '/etc/modprobe.conf' and similar. There are two version of the module utils, and use different files.
[11:27] <harisund> By the way walex, apparently it's a Ubuntu issue, so I doubt anyone here would know anyway so don't worry, thanks
[11:27] <cgroza__> hello ,why every time i right click the menu shows up and then goes away?
[11:27] <cgroza__> hello ,why every time i right click the menu shows up and then goes away?
[11:28] <cgroza__> its not my mouse in windows every thing works fine
[11:28] <ctx144k> meshuggah, then u have to define right screen-resolutions in xorg.conf
[11:28] <piers> cgroza__, stop sayin stuff 2wice
[11:28] <meshuggah> ctx144k, how
[11:28] <moymoy> Walex: how do i stop it? when i `sudo service pulseaudio stop` it just starts up again
[11:28] <louigi> Walex: no file like that
[11:28] <Neosano> Walex, well, there's almost no options in my BIOS unfortunately. How can I try suspend to ram and suspend to disk? Which one is the default?
[11:28] <Walex> louigi: '/etc/modprobe.d/' then
[11:29] <meshuggah> ctx144k, btw it chose the 96 version when it was said the 71 one was the good one for my geforce4
[11:29] <piers> any1 linux advanced user?
[11:29] <piers> \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\
[11:29] <piers> soz
[11:29] <Walex> Neosano: it is not an option in the BIOS; it is how buggy the BIOS is.
[11:29] <junkbit> piers, install gparted then look in System→Admin→Partition Editor menu
[11:29] <Walex> Neosano: suspend to ram is "standby" and suspend to disk is "hibernate".
[11:29] <louigi> Walex: no files like that at all. the only file starting with "mod" is modules
[11:29] <louigi> Walex: I have Ubuntu 9.04
[11:30] <junkbit> piers, gparted is like free Partition Magic
[11:30] <piers> junkbit, thanks but the partition I want to delete has kubuntu on it
[11:30] <junkbit> piers, you can do it from the liveCD
[11:30] <piers> junkbit, private chat?
[11:30] <piers> junkbit,  do wot
[11:30] <Neosano> Walex, OH, that's it.. both are not working :]
[11:30] <hanshenrik> moymoy: sure its running on C: ? (cus i specified 20 GB for ubuntu in wubi, and my C: drives total capasity dropped by 20 gb :o)
[11:31] <Neosano> Walex, in windows they're working
[11:31] <junkbit> piers, if you boot the liveCD you can run gparted, it might be called kparted on kubuntu
[11:31] <ctx144k> meshuggah, u have to look in googlem, there ull find the options for xorg.conf:  for example    Modes   1024x768
[11:32] <Neosano> Walex, I've tried sudo s2ram -f which WORKED! I saw desktop and things, but everything was broken!
[11:32] <moymoy> hanshenrik: yup, i'm sure.. because the wubi installer happens in windows and doesn't need a reboot.. so your Ubuntu is actually running on a virtual environment within your windows filesystem (i think that's how it is)
[11:32] <n-iCe> is there any way to stabilize my wireless connection, the signal strenght changes a lot
[11:32] <meshuggah> ctx144k, ok tyhank
[11:32] <Walex> Neosano: then it is some incompatible video driver.  :p)
[11:33] <Walex> moymoy: still looking at your strace
[11:33] <meshuggah> but now i got problem
[11:34] <meshuggah> thank for your help ctx144k
[11:34] <Neosano> Walex, after rebooting everything is ok of course
[11:34] <moymoy> hanshenrik: why can't you use the same CD?
[11:34] <Neosano> Ok I'll try to do something
[11:34] <ctx144k> no problem
[11:34] <Neosano> brb
[11:34] <piers> junkbit, can i delete the kubuntu partition without trashing my gnome partition
[11:35] <moymoy> Walex: thanks for sticking with my case.. which has proved itself incredibly time-consuming.. and i'm also straining your eye D;
[11:35] <Neosano> omg
[11:35] <Neosano> Soo
[11:35] <Neosano> Walex, just went out of suspend.. errr
[11:35] <moymoy> Neosano: does anything work?
[11:36] <louigi> Walex: seems like nothing like that - no modprobe no modules.conf.... what do I do?
[11:36] <Neosano> Walex, XChat is working fine(that's why I'm here)
[11:36] <Neosano> Walex, terminal doesn't work
[11:36] <Neosano> root@lilu:~# xrefresh
[11:36] <Neosano> bash: /usr/bin/xrefresh: No such file or directory
[11:36] <moymoy> Neosano: what does `cat /sys/power/state` say?
[11:36] <junkbit> piers, did you install both ubuntu and kubuntu side by side?  then yes you can delete kubuntu and resize ubuntu to use the free space
[11:36] <piers> guys can i delete my Kubuntu partition without trashing the Grub and messing up the startup
[11:36] <Neosano> root@lilu:~# cat /sys/power/state
[11:36] <Neosano> bash: cat: command not found
[11:36] <louigi> Walex: I found modprobe.d through CLI interface!
[11:36] <cgroza__> piers,i dont think so
[11:37] <louigi> Walex: so is it the right file?
[11:37] <Walex> louigi: 'man modprobe.conf'
[11:37] <moymoy> Neosano: seems like your paths are messed up
[11:37] <piers> how do I instal Grub again after deleting it
[11:37] <Neosano> moymoy, haha, yea :)
[11:37] <Neosano> moymoy, any chance to fix them? Or maybe some extra parameters for s2ram ?
[11:37] <cgroza__> piers,grub installs itself once with the OS
[11:37] <moymoy> Neosano: show the output of `/bin/echo $PATH`
[11:38] <moymoy> Neosano: i dont' use s2ram
[11:38] <piers> cgroza__,  private chat?
[11:38] <Neosano> moymoy, but I used it to get atleast SOMETHING work
[11:38] <Neosano> moymoy, how can I do it?
[11:38] <moymoy> Neosano: i have a minimum install, so i tell the kernel to suspend myself
[11:39] <moymoy> Neosano: show me `/bin/echo $PATH` first
[11:39] <louigi> Walex: I needed modules.conf to add some soundcard aliases. in modprobe directory I have several files. should I use alsa-base to add the lines?
[11:39] <Neosano> moymoy, how can I do it?
[11:40] <Neosano> err
[11:40] <moymoy> Neosano: copy and paste it
[11:40] <Neosano> moymoy, in terminal?
[11:40] <moymoy> Neosano: show me the output of that command i sent earlier
[11:40] <Walex> moymoy: I think it is something related to the Pulse server.
[11:40] <Neosano> moymoy, I can't open terminal :)
[11:40] <moymoy> Neosano: yeah in terminal
[11:41] <Maelos`> Can someone explain the technical difference between the -virtual and standard -server kernel?
[11:41] <moymoy> Neosano: then how did you get the "command not found" ?
[11:41] <moymoy> Walex: what's your theory?
[11:41] <Maelos`> Looks like -server is already running 100HZ tickless so what else is different?
[11:41] <Neosano> moymoy, Really everything just dissapeared except my xchat active window
[11:42] <Neosano> moymoy, So I'll reboot now :)
[11:42] <Neosano> brb
[11:42] <moymoy> Neosano: can you press ALT+F2?
[11:42] <Neosano> nope, can't
[11:42] <cgroza__> Neosano:since when do you have this problem?
[11:42] <Walex> moymoy: for some reason the Pulse server suspend playing audio from the console when the X session is active, and viceversa.
[11:42] <Neosano> cgroza__, after s2ram -f
[11:42] <louigi> Walex: all I found was modprobe.d but not modprobe.conf!
[11:42] <cgroza__> Neosano:REINSTALL.... that is what i wold do
[11:42] <Walex> louigi: is that wrong?
[11:42] <louigi> Walex: so it is a directory but it contains some other files
[11:43] <Neosano> cgroza__ reboot helps, I'm trying to make suspend work
[11:43] <Neosano> so Ill reboot now
[11:43] <Neosano> brb
[11:43] <Walex> louigi: have you tried a web search?
[11:43] <louigi> louigi: I need to add some lines to modules.conf - so it says in my soundcard driver installation instructions
[11:43] <louigi> Wales: sure, a lot
[11:43] <louigi> Walex: searched a lot and decided to try here
[11:43] <Pirate_Hunter> do cluster have to be the same as in specs/make/etc or can they differ?
[11:43] <moymoy> Walex: seems i did a pretty bad job installing ubuntu.. nobody else seems to have this problem
[11:45] <Neosano> okay I'm back
[11:46] <jmeng> hey there, I'm currently trying to get the tun driver to create the /dev/net/tun device with certain user privileges using a udev rules file. Now when I manually modprobe tun, this works great. However, on boot, the tun file is created as root:root with no permissions. Any idea on why that happens?
[11:46] <tamam> hi
[11:47] <moymoy> Neosano: welcome back.. is your terminal working?
[11:47] <Neosano> moymoy, everything is working after rebooting - it's ok
[11:47] <moymoy> Neosano: okay, do this `cat /sys/power/state` and tell what it says
[11:48] <Neosano> alex@lilu:~$ cat /sys/power/state
[11:48] <Neosano> mem disk
[11:48] <moymoy> Neosano: okay.. this is what i do to suspend.. i don't know if it'll work for you
[11:48] <Walex> moymoy: it is not a problem -- looks like a feature.
[11:48] <Neosano> moymoy, lets try :]
[11:49] <moymoy> Neosano: first get root privelages with `sudo -s`
[11:49] <Neosano> ok :)
[11:49] <moymoy> Neosano: then do this `echo mem > /sys/power/state`
[11:50] <moymoy> Walex: any idea how to configure pulse?
[11:51] <Pinchiukas> Ok, how do I make the S3 chrome work? I'm using the openchrome driver, but I still see trash in xorg.
[11:51] <qdb> in http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1117283 is said that i can enable mp3 encoding with sudo apt-get install ffmpeg libavcodec-unstripped-51 but ffmpeg is compiled without mp3 and do not work? ffmpeg is installed separately already
[11:52] <Walex> moymoy: try to run 'mplayer' with '-ao alsa:device=default' and see if it still stops.
[11:53] <Neosano> moymoy, I'll try to explain what happened..
[11:53] <moymoy> Walex: audio doesn't persist.. not even with alsa
[11:54] <Neosano> er.. It suspended... and when I pressed the power button to get back I saw a blank screen with binking cursos
[11:54] <Neosano> cursor*
[11:54] <Walex> moymoy: that is very peculiar or else it does not really use ALSA.
[11:54] <Neosano> and nothing else.. just blank screen with binking cursor
[11:54] <Neosano> Some time later I pressed power button to shut it down
[11:54] <Neosano> and it said
[11:55] <Neosano> login lilu blablabla
[11:55] <Neosano> I wrote my username
[11:55] <moymoy> Neosano: hmm that shouldn't happen.. what kernel version are you using? `uname -r`
[11:55] <Neosano> and it showed some kind of EXT3-fs error
[11:55] <mati> hi
[11:55] <moymoy> Neosano: you were told to log in after you pressed the powerbutton?
[11:56] <Neosano> Yes, well, yeah, in that shitty console
[11:56] <Neosano> but after I wrote my login name it showed up some errors
[11:56] <Neosano> 2.6.28-15-generic
[11:57] <moymoy> Neosano: hmm.. i have the 2.6.31 kernel.. suspend/hibernate never worked for me in the previous kernels... i was just hoping it'd work for your computer
[11:57] <Neosano> moymoy, lol, maybe I have to get 2.6.31? :D
[11:58] <moymoy> Neosano: i'd prefer another route
[11:58] <moymoy> Neosano: compiling your own kernel can take a long time
[11:58] <Neosano> :D
[11:58] <Pinchiukas> Ok, how do I make the S3 chrome work? I'm using the openchrome driver, but I still see trash in xorg.
[11:59] <moymoy> Neosano: and your kernel might not even work, that means you have to reconfigure it and compile again... more time wasted D;
[11:59] <Neosano> moymoy, doesn't sound good :-\
[11:59] <Neosano> moymoy, so, maybe there's another way to fix it? I googled a lot and nothing
[12:00] <SharpRain> How do I get windows to stack
[12:00] <moymoy> Neosano: hmm i found some deb packages for the latest kernel, maybe you can give 'em a try
[12:01] <Neosano> moymoy, why not
[12:01] <moymoy> Neosano: first tell me `uname -m`
[12:01] <Neosano> i686
[12:01] <moymoy> Neosano: okay
[12:02] <Neosano> moymoy, strange that there's any problem with it on linux, but no problem in windows :)
[12:02] <Neosano> -any
[12:02] <moymoy> Neosano: http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/v2.6.31/linux-image-2.6.31-020631-generic_2.6.31-020631_i386.deb
[12:02] <SharpRain> Hello>?
[12:02] <moymoy> Neosano: http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/v2.6.31/linux-headers-2.6.31-020631-generic_2.6.31-020631_i386.deb
[12:02] <sarthorks> i uninstalled my ubuntu-desktop package y mistake. now i can't use my computer. i can log-in. but nothing shows up, and i can't do anything. how can i install ubuntu-desktop  again?
[12:02] <Walex> Neosano: MS-windows suspend usually has drivers custom-hacked by the manufacturer to work around the bugs in the BIOS and the specific devices.
[12:03] <moymoy> Neosano: those two are the linux image and the linux-headers
[12:03] <Neosano> moymoy, I must get both?
[12:03] <moymoy> Neosano: you'll need the header files if you ever need to install anything that involves compiling a module or whatever
[12:04] <Neosano> moymoy, okay, downloaded :]
[12:05] <moymoy> Neosano: fire away!! .. your computer's been through a lot today =p ... so has mine.. been installing Arch earlier today
[12:06] <Walex> moymoy: your 'mplayer' first tries to use OSS output, but the device is busy, so it open a connection to the Pulse daemon. All audio is via the Pulse daemon. So it is definitely a Pulse issue.
[12:07] <moymoy> Walex: do you know how i can configure pulse?
[12:07] <Walex> moymoy: it is likely that the Pulse daemon suspends non-foreground sessions. I'd play around with the commands in 'man pactl'
[12:07] <Neosano> moymoy really I'm trying to make it work from yesterday :D
[12:08] <treadstone> i cant get ubuntu to take up my entire screen
[12:09] <treadstone> can anyone help
[12:09] <Walex> moymoy: I am not really familiar with Pulse, I don't use it.
[12:09] <moymoy> Walex: are you an alsa user?
[12:09] <Walex> moymoy: yes, but Pulse anyhow uses ALSA.
[12:09] <Neosano> moymoy, so what I'm going to do with these files? :-]
[12:10] <treadstone> can anyone tell me how to get ubuntu to fit my entire screen?
[12:10] <Neosano> lets brake my ubuntu! :DDD
[12:10] <moymoy> Neosano: you can just click and open them and Gdebi should handle it.. or you can do it through the terminal
[12:10] <treadstone> i have a 2 inch band around the entire screen
[12:10] <sarthorks> i uninstalled my ubuntu-desktop package y mistake. now i can't use my computer. i can log-in. but nothing shows up, and i can't do anything. how can i install ubuntu-desktop  again?
[12:10] <Neosano> moymoy, which one? Header or image?
[12:11] <SharpRain> How do I get windows to stack?!
[12:11] <Walex> sarthorks: login to a console (C-A-F1) and 'sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop'
[12:11] <ortsvorsteher> sarthorks: try sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[12:11] <treadstone> lol Am I invisible
[12:12] <Neosano> treadstone you're not :]
[12:12] <treadstone> lol
[12:12] <sarthorks> walex , ortsvorsteher - i can do that only if i am connected through my wifi. but when i go to recovery mode eg, i am not connected to the net, so i cant download the package.
[12:12] <moymoy> Neosano: both
[12:13] <treadstone> How can i get Ubuntu to fill my entire screen
[12:13] <Walex> t
[12:13] <Walex> treadstone: reconfigure the X server
[12:13] <Syrioth> anyone here using ndiswrapper for their wireless ???
[12:14] <treadstone> Wales can you tell me how to do that in terminal perhaps
[12:14] <Neosano> moymoy, err :D :D It says Same version is already installed!
[12:15] <Neosano> moymoy a no
[12:15] <Neosano> moymoy I'm a lier :]
[12:15] <Neosano> it doesn't..
[12:15] <Walex> treadstone: lots of HOWTOs out there. e.g. http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/ubuntu-linux-how-to-reconfigure-x-windows-system-xorg-server/
[12:15] <treadstone> The whole story how I ended up here is hilarious
[12:15] <Syrioth> treadstone : do tell
[12:15] <treadstone> My Grandma installed IE8 on her ancient PC
[12:16] <Neosano> moymoy , when trying to install header it says Error: Dependency is not satisfiable: linux-headers-2.6.31-020631
[12:16] <treadstone> then uninstalled it
[12:16] <MarcoPau> hello, I get fail at starting mysql database server mysqld when booting ubuntu jaunty. do you have any hint?
[12:16] <Syrioth> lol
[12:16] <treadstone> her windows that had been working for YEARS would do nothing
[12:16] <Walex> treadstone: and this is semi-official: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Troubleshooting/Resolution
[12:16] <treadstone> I had to access firefox from taskmanager
[12:16] <treadstone> the use Wubi to install Ubuntu
[12:17] <Syrioth> tht sounds like a little bit of a pain
[12:17] <treadstone> yes
[12:17] <treadstone> and now it only takes up about 75% of the screen
[12:17] <sarthorks> walex : i can do that only if i am connected through my wifi. but when i go to recovery mode eg, i am not connected to the net, so i cant download the package. how should i do connect to a wifi network from the terminal in the recovery mode?
[12:17] <Syrioth> i just managed to convince my mate to dual boot ubuntu
[12:18] <moymoy> Neosano: hmm... that's possibly because that's a deb for Karmic.. =\
[12:18] <Walex> sarthorks: already told you: C-A-F1 i normal mode to login to the console.
[12:18] <treadstone> i want to just fill the entire partition with ubuntu but I dont want to do that if the screen stays like this
[12:18] <Syrioth> bye all :)
[12:18] <moymoy> Neosano: does the linux-image install fine though?
[12:18] <Neosano> moymoy, yea
[12:19] <sarthorks> walex : you mean i should press the key 'C' and then press 'A' and then press F1 key, sequentially?
[12:19] <moymoy> Neosano: then you're fine.. i only ever needed linux-headers for 2 things anyway.. you can get rid of that then.. reboot into your new kernel
[12:19] <Walex> sarthorks: Control-Alt-F1
[12:19] <Neosano> moymoy :) Hmm, sounds easy
[12:19] <sarthorks> walex - damn, stupid me! ok thanks
[12:20] <moymoy> Neosano: and incase your new kernel doesn't work, remember you can choose your old kernel from the grub list (you may have to press Esc while grub loads)
[12:20] <Walex> moymoy: http://www.pulseaudio.org/wiki/CLI
[12:22] <Neosano> I'm back :D
[12:22] <captine> hi all.  quick question. ubuntu desktop 9.04 is not detecting my syncmaster lcd screen.  installed nvidia proprietary drivers, thinking it would improve resolution etc.  looks pretty bad now?
[12:22] <captine> anyone had a problem like this?
[12:22] <captine> pics it up as CRT-0
[12:22] <Neosano> moymoy, What now? I'll just try suspend?
[12:23] <Neosano> moymoy, or your method?
[12:23] <chess__> hi, I have this nas and want to connect my netbook, So I do smb:\\<IP_ADDRESS> but says it doesn't exists.
[12:23] <captine> must i edit xorg.conf directly?
[12:23] <moymoy> Neosano: oh yes.. sorry
[12:24] <moymoy> Neosano: `sudo -s` to get root privelages
[12:24] <moymoy> Neosano: wait.. first i have to make sure what your sys says .. do `echo /sys/power/state`
[12:24] <Neosano> moymoy, Well of course, what then?
[12:24] <pente> test
[12:25] <Neosano> root@lilu:~# echo /sys/power/state
[12:25] <Neosano> er
[12:25] <Neosano> sry
[12:25] <grawity> pente: test passed, do you need any help?
[12:25] <Neosano> kt
[12:25] <Neosano> it just says /sys/power/state
[12:25] <moymoy> Neosano:  lol something's wrong with me... i meant `cat` not echo
[12:25] <moymoy> Neosano: bye the way, it's 6:25 AM and i haven't slept D;
[12:26] <Walex> moymoy: also check for your issue the ConsoleKit config. http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/ConsoleKit
[12:26] <moymoy> Neosano: do `cat /sys/power/state` sorry
[12:26] <Neosano> moymoy same, says mem disk
[12:26] <chess__> anyone knows why I get "directory doesn't exists" when I want to access my nas? smb:\\<IP_ADDRESS>
[12:26] <moymoy> Neosano: okay `echo mem > /sys/power/state`
[12:26] <Walex> moymoy: because Pulse uses the ConsoleKit if the module is loaded.
[12:26] <Walex> chess__: yes.
[12:26] <grawity> chess__: Probably because it's smb://
[12:26] <moymoy> Walex: apparently, if i use the sound server in my X session, i'll start hearing audio from mplayer again
[12:27] <m1dlg> I'm about to perform a new install of Ubuntu, should I install a fresh copy of 9.04 or is it worth waiting for 9.10 (how long till it's due out?)
[12:27] <chess__> No it isn't, its the same
[12:27] <moymoy> Walex: like if i use aplay when i'm back in X .. audio starts playing again
[12:27] <chess__> same error
[12:27] <Walex> moymoy: ahhhh. That means that 'mplayer' connects to the sound server, and if you disable the sound server in X, well, it is disabled.
[12:27] <Neosano> moymoy argh!!!
[12:28] <Neosano> moymoy well
[12:28] <Neosano> moymoy I'm back.. errrr..
[12:28] <moymoy> Walex: why would the sound server be disabled in X?
[12:28] <moymoy> Neosano: how was the journey?
[12:28] <Neosano> moymoy it was in the same way as s2ram
[12:28] <Neosano> moymoy, everything is screwed..
[12:28] <MenZa> m1dlg: You can upgrade to 9.10 once it's out.
[12:28] <mrwes> m1dlg, go with 9.04, you can always upgrade later
[12:29] <Neosano> moymoy, no icons, terminal says shit on commands :)
[12:29] <moymoy> Neosano: =\ no idea what's wrong.... and it's strange how xchat is immune to all these errors
[12:29] <Walex> moymoy: because you disabled it?
[12:29] <Neosano> moymoy, I guess firefox works too
[12:29] <Neosano> moymoy, interesting thing - I can't get to any folders
[12:30] <moymoy> Walex: but my apps connect to pulseaudio when i'm in X too
[12:30] <Neosano> moymoy if I try for example places/home folder
[12:30] <Neosano> moymoy my task bars will disapear  :D :D :D
[12:30] <captine> anyone here have a monitor problem?  not detected and incorrectly setup with X?
[12:30] <Walex> moymoy: but you just said "if i use the sound server in my X session, i'll start hearing audio from mplayer"
[12:30] <mrwes> !enter Neosano
[12:30] <mrwes> er
[12:30] <mrwes> !Enter
[12:31] <Neosano> mrwes mhh?
[12:31] <Walex> moymoy: this may be relevant: http://people.freedesktop.org/~mccann/doc/ConsoleKit/ConsoleKit.html#id2565344
[12:31] <Neosano> moymoy, I guess it works, but what happens with the whole system? :D
[12:31] <mrwes> Neosano, when you put a few words on each line and use the enter key, it makes it difficult to follow your thread
[12:32] <Neosano> mrwes, I'm sorry
[12:32] <Walex> moymoy: BTW I dislike that thing -- it introduces new complicate concepts in a UNIX environment which are opaquely used by random apps.
[12:32] <sarthorks> walex : i tried C-A-F1. but as i said, it cannot download the package as i am not connected to the internet . how should i connect to the net from the terminal?
[12:33] <m1dlg> MenZa, mrwes, OK shall do, I have to redownload it first (thank god for BT and 22Mb BB)
[12:33] <Walex> sarthorks: but you don't need to boot in "safe mode" or anything equivalent.
[12:33] <Neosano> reboot :)
[12:33] <mrwes> m1dlg, yes, it's best to get the iso from a torrent, the hash checking usually ensures you have a good iso file
[12:33] <moymoy> Walex: hmm =\ i'll disable pulse audio as a service and try rebooting and see if it works
[12:33] <moymoy> Walex: too much reading for this late night
[12:34] <Walex> sarthorks: if your problem is that you cannot connect to the Internet, bad news. Anyhow you can use he original installation disk to install just that group of packages.
[12:34] <moymoy> Walex: morning now.. sun's up
[12:34] <sarthorks> walex: yes, thats what i was thinking. oh so you can;t connect from the terminal??
[12:34] <m1dlg> mrwes, I did an upgrade to the install I have now when the first release of 9.04 came out and it stuff the machine up until some cool guys here fixed it - the whole thing was trashed
[12:35] <Walex> sarthorks: whether it is the console or an X terminal or application does not matter -- if the system is configured for networking, it will work either way. network connection is a property of the system, not of the way you use it.
[12:35] <danimus> hi
[12:36] <sarthorks> walex, so how do i configure my system to connect to the net?
[12:36] <mrwes> m1dlg, some people prefer to do a fresh install everytime, I've done both with success. Having a separate /home partition certainly makes that a lot easier
[12:36] <Walex> sarthorks: same way you configured it beforehand...
[12:37] <Walex> sarthorks: didn't you say that you have a working networked configuration, but you are just not using it?
[12:37] <Neosano> Walex, EXT3-fs errors are saying something about sda2 directory offset
[12:37] <Neosano> Walex, maybe it's because I have windows installed on another ntfs partition?
[12:37] <Keiffer> I am using rtorrent on a machine with multiple users and I want to make it independent on witch user is logged in. And to work if no user is logged in at all. Any help? pls
[12:37] <Walex> Neosano: very bad news. Looks like the disk did not restart, or you have bad issues in your filesystem
[12:37] <Noodle93> Good evening.
[12:38] <Noodle93> I'm having a bit of trouble with 9.04
[12:38] <Neosano> Walex, bad news? Not Really.. after reboot everything is just fine! What's wrong with the suspend?
[12:38] <Noodle93> I've installed a new 500gb Seagate SATA hd.
[12:38] <sarthorks> walex, so i did not have to configure or anything. net works fine on my system. i am on the same system, only on jaunty live usb right now, so that i can connect to IRC. when i plug out my live usb and try booting to the HD (which has hardy loaded) i don;t think i am connected. i need to enter username and password to connect to the net, but since ubuntu-dekstop is uninstalled, i can't do anything.
[12:38] <mrwes> Keiffer, I run rtorrent with a root cron @reboot
[12:38] <m1dlg> mrwes, Ta, I have a seperate /home but perhaps I had some faulty files on the last. I'm off to DL it all. L8rs
[12:39] <mrwes> Keiffer, @reboot /usr/bin/screen -dmS rtorrent /usr/local/bin/rtorrent
[12:39] <Noodle93> And I've somehow managed to install 9.04 on the hd, but then it freezes most of the time on boot (I've managed to boot normally once). I'm also getting error number 19. When I boot off a CD, it fails 50/50 and if I do manage to get in, and I try to mount the hd, it freezes.
[12:40] <Keiffer> mrwes, please, can you be more specific? I don't know how to run a cron command as a sudo /root
[12:40] <Walex> sarthorks: you can use all commad line tols. Anyhow the issue seems to be that you use WiFi, your WiFi setup requires login, and you are only familiar with the GUI way to login to your WiFi AP.
[12:40] <Noodle93> It also flashes pretty fast, but there something about too many usb ports.
[12:40] <Walex> sarthorks: you could do many other things, like 'chroot' from your liveCD to your ondisk Ubuntu install.
[12:41] <Keiffer> mrwes, that's the command for cron?
[12:41] <sarthorks> walex, exactly. can you give me a detailed description of what i have to do? i am pretty new to ubuntu
[12:41] <mrwes> Keiffer, hrmm...I'm not sure each user would be able to reattach to a screen session that root started
[12:41] <Noodle93> Any suggestions for my problem?
[12:42] <Walex> sarthorks: the basic problem is that if you are only familiar with the GUI way, and you delete the whole GUI thing, it is pretty hard to tell you step by step how to use the command line to reinstall the GUI, if you also rely on NetworkManager for wifi config.
[12:42] <Neosano> Walex, probably after suspend linux is trying to get files on another partition, what can be wrong? Maybe because both partitions are primary?
[12:42] <mrwes> Keiffer, I run transmission-cli and that runs as user transmission and I then use the web interface to add torrents
[12:42] <sarthorks> walex, ok so you suggest i grab a live CD and install ubuntu-desktop from it?
[12:43] <Walex> sarthorks: so for now the best advice I can give is to continue using the LiveUSB version, mount your old root partition on th hard disk, 'chroot' into it and run 'apt-get install ubuntu-desktop'
[12:43] <mrwes> Keiffer, http://trac.transmissionbt.com/wiki/Scripts
[12:44] <sarthorks> walex, can you explain what you mean by "chroot" into the hard disk?
[12:44] <Walex> sarthorks: another way would be to run the original installation CD in upgrade, not reinstall mode.
[12:44] <mrwes> Keiffer, this might help for rtorrent: http://libtorrent.rakshasa.no/
[12:44] <Keiffer> mrwes, thank you
[12:45] <Neosano> Walex I guess you're busy now, but would making this partition logical help or no?
[12:45] <Walex> sarthorks: suppose that your root device gets mounted as '/media/sda1', just do 'chroot /media/sda1'
[12:45] <mrwes> Keiffer, I used to run rtorrent, but as of late I started using transmission-cli
[12:45] <sarthorks> walex, that would be a nice possibility, thanks. thanks for chroot method. so once i chroot into it, i use sudo apt-get line?
[12:45] <Walex> Neosano: most likely the problem is that your BIOS ACPI code is buggy and/or not compatible with the Linux S2RAM subsystem.
[12:45] <benn> need help with grub edit
[12:45] <SharpRain> How do I get windows to stack?
[12:46] <Walex> Neosano: many systems do not work with S2RAM under linux because their firmware cannot properly save or restore status
[12:46] <Duesentrieb> hi all - is it possible to install ubuntu from ubuntu? i.e. install a new version on another partition, from a running ubuntu?
[12:46] <Walex> SharpRain: what does that mean?
[12:46] <Walex> Duesentrieb: yes.
[12:46] <SharpRain> like instead of 3 firefox windows
[12:46] <SharpRain> they all go in one slot
[12:46] <SharpRain> and when you click it
[12:46] <sarthorks> walex, but im on jaunty right now, while my Hd has hardy. that wouldn't interfere if i run sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop once i have chroot-ed into it?
[12:46] <SharpRain> you can select
[12:46] <Duesentrieb> Walex: nice :) got a link to a howto?
[12:46] <FloodBot2> SharpRain: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:46] <SharpRain> like In windows
[12:46] <Neosano> Walex, but after suspend I resume back and I can see my desktop, but something wrong with filesystem!
[12:46] <Aijse> Any body knows of a good site to get me started with Apache? can't get my domainname to work, connecting from local network with ip works fine. lot's of variables are a bit spooky to me and my Ubuntu book is prety vague about it aswell so some good documentation might be  needed for me
[12:47] <Duesentrieb> Aijse: did you try apaches online manualß
[12:47] <Duesentrieb> ?
[12:47] <Walex> Aijse: read a nice book, or there are some tutorials at http://httpd.Apache.org/
[12:47] <benn> need help with grub edit
[12:47] <Walex> Neosano: if there is something wrong with your filesystem, perhaps the disk did not restart right.
[12:48] <Duesentrieb> Walex: got a hint what do google for? i only find stuff for windows.
[12:48] <shengzi> hi, i instaled the latest version of ubuntu on my laptop , but almost everytime i boot it says "operating system not found" , about once in every 10 boots grub comes up and ubuntu works fine for 20 minutes or so ,but then freezes -i can browse the menues but no application works
[12:48] <Neosano> Walex I can give you error which I get when resuming, maybe it will help?
[12:48] <Duesentrieb> Walex: would it work to download the iso, mount it and start the installer? what is it called?
[12:49] <Aijse> Walex, Duesentrieb thnx i ll have a look at that and see if it helps. Else maybe go to the library tomorrow
[12:49] <SharpRain> Guys?
[12:49] <Walex> Duesentrieb: well, that surely would work. But there is a specific tool (from Debian) to do an install from a running filersystem
[12:49] <SharpRain> Hello?
[12:50] <Duesentrieb> SharpRain: i guess no one really understands what you are asking for
[12:50] <Walex> Duesentrieb: check http://linuxmafia.com/faq/Debian/installers.html
[12:50] <sarthorks> walex, but im on jaunty right now, while my Hd has hardy. that wouldn't interfere if i run sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop once i have chroot-ed into it from jaunty?
[12:50] <Duesentrieb> SharpRain: "slot"? huh? do you want separate windows or not?
[12:50] <djx> hey
[12:50] <captine> sory to be nagging. am really struggling to get my monitor working on a fresh install of 9.04 desktop.  anyone able to help with this, or is it a manual xork.conf setup?
[12:50] <djx> any1 can help me?
[12:50] <Walex> SharpRain: that is only supported by some obscure window manager. None of the popular window managers does that.
[12:50] <SharpRain> you know in windows? where it has mozzila firefox: 3 and there is 3 windows in that one slot?
[12:50] <trijntje> !any | djx
[12:51] <trijntje> !ask | djx
[12:51] <Walex> SharpRain: thats not at all what you means before.
[12:51] <djx> my wireless connection is allways  shutting down or with slow slow speed
[12:51] <SharpRain> that's what I mean
[12:51] <Walex> SharpRain: if you are asking just about how to group task manager slots, that's a completely different issue from tabbing _windows).
[12:52] <trijntje> !details | djx
[12:52] <djx> ubuntu 9.04 x64
[12:52] <Walex> SharpRain: right click on the taskbar and check the various options.
[12:52] <trijntje> djx: is your connection slow when using windows?
[12:52] <Duesentrieb> Walex: not sure what to look for there.
[12:53] <djx> nop
[12:53] <djx> only with ubuntu
[12:53] <allan_> hello all
[12:53] <Duesentrieb> Walex: when looking at the iso... what would the instalelr be called? and i hope it's a static binary :P
[12:53] <trijntje> !hi | allan_
[12:53] <n-iCe> how can I know if I use i386
[12:54] <Walex> Duesentrieb: ahh yes, I'll look a bit more. here it is: http://wiki.debian.org/Debootstrap
[12:54] <trijntje> !wireless | djx
[12:54] <n-iCe> how can I know if I use i386
[12:54] <FeasibilityStudy> Anyone use Amarok 1.4 on Jaunty?  I am having an issue with $PATH
[12:55] <trijntje> n-iCe, you want to know what iso file to download?
[12:55] <n-iCe> yeah, I want to download the best for my computer
[12:55] <mo0nykit> n-iCe, examples of i386 cpu's are the Pentium, P2, P3, P4, Celeron
[12:55] <Walex> Duesentrieb: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromKnoppix
[12:56] <panda-d> czesc
[12:56] <Walex> Duesentrieb: the method is the same from ubuntu itself.
[12:56] <n-iCe> I use core2duo
[12:56] <djx> !thanks_for_the_support_if_this_is_the_way_that_you_want_everybody_use_linux_or_ubuntu_just_sit_down_and_watch_ok? | trijntje
[12:56] <n-iCe> intel centrino duo
[12:56] <panda-d> jest ktoś z Polski?
[12:57] <n-iCe> mo0nykit: which one should I download
[12:57] <pileca_krilca> hi everyone I'm new to linux and I just want to ask if it is possible to configure a VPN without previous connection to internet
[12:57] <Duesentrieb> Walex: thanks! i would have thought there should be something pre-rolled. would be cool to be able to do it with apt-get :)
[12:57] <trijntje> !pl | panda-d
[12:57] <shengzi> can anyone help - my new ubuntu install boots on every 10 boots or so, then it freezes after 20 minutes
[12:57] <panda-d> ok thanks
[12:58] <Walex> shengzi: often power or heat problems, or your disk is not working well.
[12:58] <Walex> shengzi: check your logs for signs of hw issues.
[12:58] <mo0nykit> n-iCe, i myself am using AMD Athlon64, but I'm using i386, which works fine. i looked up wikipedia, and Core 2 Duo is already 64-bit ready
[12:58] <benn> need help with grub editing....
[12:59] <shengzi> Walex, new to linux, which log should i look at . /var/log is the dir, right?
[12:59] <mo0nykit> n-iCe, if you'd like to go 64-bit, you'll probably get the 64-bit iso
[12:59] <JohannesSM64> why doesn't backspace work in jaunty firefox?
[12:59] <mo0nykit> i don't have experience with 64-bit OSes
[12:59] <Walex> shengzi: 'dmesg' and 'sudo less /var/log/messages'
[12:59] <n-iCe> mo0nykit: 64bit is stable? I mean are there bugs or something?
[12:59] <pileca_krilca> anyone please can I get the VPN working without previous connection and how    thans
[12:59] <Bugson> guys have small problem, have partition sda2, on witch I've installed windows (on sda5) and ubuntu (on sda6) now when I set in menu.lst hd0,4 (for windows it gives me an error:12 invalid error requested, any idea how to get to the windows?
[12:59] <pileca_krilca> thanks*
[13:00] <mo0nykit> n-iCe, i don't know much about 64bit. perhaps someone else can help
[13:00] <Neosano> Walex EXT3-fs error (devise sda2): ext3_find_entry: Directory #(some random number here) offset 0
[13:00] <Neosano> Walex, what is sda2 btw?
[13:00] <shengzi> Walex, now it booted and gave this massage : "....EXT3-fs error (device sda1) ext3_find_entry: reading directory and then some numbers
[13:00] <Neosano> shengzi, errr?? :D
[13:01] <trijntje> !details | benn
[13:01] <Neosano> shengzi, same error :D
[13:01] <shengzi> wow!
[13:01] <Neosano> shengzi :D
[13:01] <Neosano> shengzi you're trying to suspend? Or what?
[13:01] <shengzi> Neosano, are you using a lenovo laptop?
[13:01] <shengzi> i'm trying to boot ubuntu
[13:01] <Neosano> no, but using laptop too :)
[13:02] <bobbyd> hi
[13:02] <Neosano> shengzi, any other partitions on your hard drive?
[13:02] <Walex> shengzi: either your disk is failing, or there is something like insufficient power on startup
[13:02] <shengzi> Neosano, i have another NTFS partition
[13:02] <Neosano> shengzi, me too!!!
[13:02] <shengzi> Walex, how can i check this?
[13:02] <Walex> to the people worrying about AMD64/64 bit mode: it has been used by many in production for several years.
[13:02] <thorkild> Regarding ppa.launchpad.net. Is it "normal" that packages appear in the web interface but not in the packages files? (so I can't install them through apt-get)
[13:03] <bobbyd> what's the easiest way to connect to my network at home and use it's resources over the internet? I'm looking for something like a vpn
[13:03] <Walex> shengzi: looking at logs. if there are hardware errors they should be pretty obvious
[13:03] <trijntje> benn: lets first talk here, there might be other people interested in your problem, or they may know more about it than I do
[13:03] <pileca_krilca> can anyone answer me? please
[13:03] <Duesentrieb> Walex: hm... that seems to give me a base system, and i can configrre the rest manually. but really all i want to do is run the normal installer that's also on the cd. much simpler. why would i need to boot fro mthe cd to run the installer?
[13:03] <Walex> bobbyd: no easy way unless your ADSL (or whatever) router supports ADSL connections.
[13:03] <Neosano> Walex, I guess we have same problem.. But mine appears only after suspending
[13:03] <shengzi> Walex, i guess i  need ubuntu to boot for that....can i use the recovery mode ?
[13:04] <Walex> Duesentrieb: nothing special.
[13:04] <Neosano> Walex, ah! Also it happens when I'm trying to hibernate
[13:04] <benn> trijntje: i`ve compiled kernel,but don`t know how to add in the rub,so that i could boot from it
[13:04] <Neosano> shengzi, so your ubuntu have never loaded atleast once?
[13:04] <Walex> shengzi: so you cannot boot right now?
[13:04] <bobbyd> Walex: there's no way to set up a VPN under ubuntu? Or to use ssh to tunnel somehow?
[13:04] <benn> grub*
[13:04] <Walex> shengzi: use a liveCD to check.
[13:04] <Duesentrieb> Walex: it's annoying that i have to get the full iso though. would be nice to get *just* the installer. actually... is there a small "network install" iso?
[13:05] <Walex> Duesentrieb: yes.
[13:05] <Neosano> Duesentrieb, yea, 16 mb :)
[13:05] <Duesentrieb> oh nice :
[13:05] <Walex> bobbyd: sure, but you need to persuade your ADSL or whatever router to forward the relevant traffic. It is not easy in many/most cases.
[13:05] <shengzi> Neosano, it booted several times but froze each time, now it booted to shell saying the /dev/disk/lots-of-numbers does not exist
[13:05] <benn> trijntje: i`ve downloaded kgrub editor,but it doesn`t load
[13:06] <Neosano> shengzi :-\
[13:06] <bobbyd> Walex: I already forward a load of stuff to other machines...
[13:06] <bobbyd> Walex: I run openwrt
[13:06] <Neosano> shengzi, but still I think mine problem is somewhere around ntfs partition
[13:06] <Duesentrieb> Walex, Neosano: but but... where?! i must be blind.
[13:06] <trijntje> benn: I cannot help you, sorry. I've never compiled a new kernel myself
[13:06] <Neosano> Duesentrieb, er
[13:06] <captine> OK.  So, I've installed the nvidia drivers through the "System->Administration->Hardware Drivers".  Now the only resolution i have is 640x480.  cannot use my gnome desktop as nothing fits on the screen.  anyone able to help?  before the nvidia driver, it ran at 1024x768. This was the highest it would run, but the monitor is capable of more "SyncMaster 713N
[13:06] <Neosano> Duesentrieb, one moment
[13:07] <captine> Running 9.04 desktop, 64bit
[13:07] <Walex> bobbyd: you can probably run the PPTP daemon or OpenVPN or TINC on the OpenWRT, or forward the relevant traffic then.
[13:07] <benn> trijntje: ok.thx anyway
[13:07] <benn> i`ll try for my one to edit the grub....
[13:07] <bobbyd> Walex: ok
[13:08] <moymoy> Walex: nothing i do works... bah.. oh well...  i might as well go to sleep and grab whatever sleep i can get
[13:08] <shengzi> Neosano, Walex what is "ata"? there seems to be a lot of ata related errors when it boots thru reovery mode
[13:08] <trijntje> benn: you should try to phrase the question better. like "i've compiled a kernel, but how can i add it to grub"
[13:08] <duffydack> Is there no way of telling apps to stay on the desktop I put them on?  When using compiz it seems if their size changes for instance like a virtualbox machine installing an OS, it pops up on the desktop I`m working on. I dont want that.
[13:08] <trijntje> benn: that way there's a better chance people will help you
[13:08] <Walex> bobbyd: perhaps the best way is to run SSH daemon on OpneWRT and then use SOCKS access to it.
[13:09] <Novita> hello all i whas wondering if anyone could help me setup a small cli command. I have a Directory packed with multipart rar files. This is what i have so far. "ls | grep part01.rar" that gives me every first part of every archive but how do i tunnel that to unrar so it extraxts them 1 by 1?
[13:09] <Neosano> Duesentrieb, http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/jaunty/main/installer-i386/current/images/netboot/
[13:09] <Walex> shengzi: ATA is the disk interface. I hope that you have backups.
[13:09] <bobbyd> Walex: hmm
[13:09] <benn> trijntje: i've compiled a kernel, but how can i add it to grub??? :) p.s. sorry i`m noob in english:)
[13:09] <trijntje> duffydack: there is a way with compiz, ill look it up
[13:09] <Neosano> Duesentrieb, it's jaunty i386, probably exactly what you need! If not - browse through the folders there
[13:09] <Duesentrieb> Neosano: wow, well hidden. thanks!
[13:10] <trijntje> benn: dont ask me ;) Its just that if you are more specific, people will help you better.
[13:10] <shengzi> Walex, you mean the disc is dead? i have nothing important there, but it was a working XP before I installed Ubuntu, strange...
[13:10] <Neosano> Duesentrieb, yea, I was searching this shit for hours :D
[13:10] <mgv1> good morning - how can i open airocrack-ng?
[13:10] <benn> trijntje: nevermind...i`ll try for my self to edit it:)hacker.....:)))
[13:11] <Duesentrieb> Neosano: any reason not to use karmic?
[13:11] <benn> thx anyway
[13:11] <Walex> shengzi: depending on which ATA errors you get, the disk is not in a good state. "working" is not a 100%/0% binary choice.
[13:11] <captine> ok.  will try another day.
[13:11] <SingAlong> Hi all
[13:11] <trijntje> benn: ok, good luck! Make a backup of your menu.lst file ;)
[13:11] <Neosano> Duesentrieb, Dunno, use karmic if you want to :)
[13:11] <Duesentrieb> :P
[13:11] <TLF> hello
[13:11] <duffydack> trijntje, I`m thinkin maybe disabling viewport switcher might *fix* it
[13:11] <trijntje> duffydack: its called 'window placement' in compiz
[13:11] <TLF> may I ask, what's the chromium-testsuite-dbg package for?
[13:11] <shengzi> Walex, it suddenly booted! in rescue mode - to look at logs, which option should i choose "resume", "clean", "root"?
[13:12] <benn> trijntje: i don`t use to make backup`s :))))
[13:12] <shengzi> Walex, maybe fsck?
[13:12] <Neosano> Duesentrieb, http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/karmic/main/installer-i386/current/images/netboot/ for karmic
[13:12] <benn> noob...what can i say?:)
[13:12] <trijntje> benn: double good luck in that case ;)
[13:12] <duffydack> trijntje, yeah I know about that plugin, and its rubbish! lol.  apps always start up top right corner, not where they left off.. I`ll have a look around
[13:12] <Duesentrieb> Neosano: yea, saw it. wondering if kubuntu also has it. but i can always just install the kde desktop plater
[13:13] <mgv1> anyone can tell me how to use airocrack?
[13:13] <Neosano> Duesentrieb yea, you'll have to install some features yourself :) But I don't think it's a problem
[13:13] <Neosano> mgvl, I guess it's wrong channel, isn't it?
[13:13] <SingAlong> there seems to be a wireless problem in my acer aspire one netbook. i left my netbook turned on and took a nap and after i returned i'm not able to connect to the net via the netbook. although the net works fine on my desktop. I've noticed this happening very often when the connection is left idle. The connection isnt working even when i restart nm-applet. any ideas?
[13:14] <trijntje> duffydack: hmm, if the windows are not full size they remember where to start, at least the programs i configured with that plugin do..
[13:14] <benn> trijntje: thx....will reboot now to see what i`ve done:)))
[13:14] <Neosano> mgvl, you can even try searching in youtube :) Lots of help there
[13:14] <Walex> shengzi: 'fsck' fixes _logical_ problems, not physical ones.
[13:14] <bobbyd> SingAlong: try suspending and resuming it
[13:15] <SingAlong> bobbyd: you mean suspending the netbook and then resuming it?
[13:15] <Walex> SingAlong: nothing special, happens often.
[13:15] <bobbyd> SingAlong: if that works, look in /var/log/syslog for errors about not being able to wake up the interface
[13:15] <bobbyd> SingAlong: yep
[13:15] <bobbyd> SingAlong: my netbook seems to flake out sometimes, a quick suspend fixes it
[13:15] <SingAlong> bobbyd: you have the same netbook>
[13:16] <Walex> shengzi: of course physical problems can create logical problems, but if you get ATA errors, you have physical problems.
[13:16] <bobbyd> SingAlong: I've got *a* netbook that does something similar :)
[13:16] <SingAlong> bobbyd: :)
[13:16] <Duesentrieb> hm, i think i'll wait for the official release of karmic before seriously upgrading
[13:17] <Duesentrieb> but i'll play with it on my spare partition :)
[13:17] <incorrect> seems like pretty much all vm solutions seem to be broken
[13:17] <bobbyd> SingAlong: 02:00.0 Ethernet controller: Atheros Communications Inc. AR242x 802.11abg Wireless PCI Express Adapter (rev 01)
[13:18] <shengzi> Walex, is there anyway i can chanel the output of "dmesg" into a file?
[13:18] <SingAlong> bobbyd: curious to know if its an acer aspire one or an eeepc
[13:18] <incorrect> vmware 2.0 is hopeless, xen seems to be hopelessly broken, kvm reports duff cpu model info,
[13:18] <Walex> incorrect: everything is broken, to a degree.
[13:18] <Walex> shengzi: 'dmesg > /tmp/file' for example
[13:18] <incorrect> Walex, tell me about it
[13:18] <shengzi> Walex, thanks
[13:19] <Walex> shengzi: but the output of 'dmesg' should also be in '/var/log/messsages'
[13:19] <Walex> incorrect: and VM is a popular/trendy thing -- a lot of people then want a boost to their careers byt writing some half-assed VM subsystem to look cool.
[13:20] <phiphi> Hello, does anyone know if there's a way to have a virtual machine with 2 (virtual) monitors ?
[13:20] <phiphi> I'd like to test a few problems in Karmic that encounter with the current release
[13:20] <incorrect> Walex, seems so
[13:20] <Walex> incorrect: and VM susbsystems are not that easy to write. So we struggle.
[13:20] <benn> trijntje: nope....doesn`t work:(
[13:21] <Walex> phiphi: surely there is a way, the question is whether the VM emulates a VGA card with two monitors. Unlikly.
[13:21] <benn> someone pls help me with editing the grub so that to load from an compiled kernel.....
[13:21] <incorrect> Walex, are you writing one?
[13:21] <trijntje> benn: where are you form? maybe people in your local ubuntu channel can help you
[13:21] <bobbyd> what's a good console-based imap client?
[13:21] <Walex> incorrect: nooo. Far too complex an subtle.
[13:21] <Pinchiukas> How do I update the package database via cli?
[13:21] <Duesentrieb> Walex, Neosano: doesn't look like i can run the installer from a mounted iso. it's all compressed into initrd.gz
[13:21] <shengzi> Walex, thanks, can you have alook at http://paste.ubuntu.com/274628/ its my dmseg
[13:22] <benn> trijntje: nope:)don`t think so:)i`m from Moldova...guess you`ve never heard about this country:)
[13:22] <trijntje> Pinchiukas, sudo apt-get update. Read man apt-get for more information
[13:22] <Walex> Duesentrieb: you can if you boot the ISO.
[13:22] <Walex> Duesentrieb: or if you run 'deboostrap'.
[13:22] <Duesentrieb> Walex: i don't *want* to boot the iso, that#s the entiere point :) i want to run the installer off a runing ubuntu :)
[13:23] <Walex> Duesentrieb: run it into a virtual machine. Else use 'deboostrap'
[13:23] <Duesentrieb> Walex: but debootstrap doesn't run the normal installer. it installs a base system. not what i want.
[13:23] <Pinchiukas> Thanks trijntje.
[13:23] <trijntje> benn: well I've heard about that country, but not about an ubuntu channel there ;)
[13:23] <moymoy> Duesentrieb: you can't run an installer in a running ubuntu, because your harddrive would be mounted... what you COULD do is mount the ISO and add it as a source to your update-manager or synaptic
[13:23] <Duesentrieb> what i want is basically what wubi does for windows.
[13:24] <Duesentrieb> moymoy: but i don't wnat to update the running system. i want to install to a blank partition. which is not mounted.
[13:24] <benn> trijntje: you`ve heard about moldova????wear:)))))where are you from?gues that europe:)
[13:24] <moymoy> Duesentrieb: that's like installing a virtual machine
[13:24] <moymoy> Duesentrieb: oh
[13:24] <Duesentrieb> moymoy: huh? no. i don#t want to run it in parallel.
[13:25] <Nearsight> Hi #ubuntu I've got a quick question regarding iptables... does someone know how to change the listening in a port like <IP_ADDRESS>:port to <IP_ADDRESS>:port?
[13:25] <shengzi> I wonder if there is a disk check utility i can run on ubuntu to check my hard disk?
[13:25] <allan8904> hi, i cant see to get and extended desktop display with Kubuntu jaunty, KDE 4.3.1, with and intel 915 graphics card using and external VGA moniter and the LVDS, i know this is the Ubuntu channel, but no one in the kubuntu channel seems to be replying so i thought it was worth a shot
[13:25] <trijntje> benn: yes, holland/netherlands
[13:25] <coz_> Nearsight,   I dont  I am a doof  with networking however  if no one here can help  you may fare better in ##linux channel :)
[13:25] <benn> trijntje: lucky for you:)
[13:25] <nobreakmaibam> hi anyone help me, how to convert avi,mpeg to 3gp file extension?
[13:26] <Nearsight> coz_: porbably a better place to look for answers, thanks
[13:26] <nobreakmaibam> in ubuntu 9.04
[13:26] <incorrect> screw it, i will go back to kvm, that has more chance of working in time
[13:26] <moymoy> Duesentrieb: i don't think you can install if any part of your harddrive is mounted.. because there are people that burn the ISO onto their partitions and boot the ISO off of their harddrive and not be able to install onto another partition..
[13:26] <coz_> nobreakmaibam,   mmm not sure but you may want to try  Handbradke
[13:26] <Walex> shengzi: there are no errors in your 'dmesg'.
[13:26] <coz_> nobreakmaibam,   sorry thats   Handbrake
[13:26] <nobreakmaibam> hi anyone help me, how to convert avi,mpeg to 3gp file extension? in ubuntu :-)
[13:26] <Walex> shengzi: also you are trying to use hibernation/suspend to disk. That often does not work.
[13:26] <nobreakmaibam> help :-)
[13:26] <EuphoniC> I've done a apt-get remove proftpd and now I want to reinstall proftpd but when I do an apt-get install proftpd it doesn't end up in /etc/proftpd not in /etc/init.d. What might I be doing wrong?
[13:27] <shengzi> Walex, i figured so, this time it booted stright with no errors- can i see the logs from previous boots?
[13:27] <Wizards> Is there a way to lower my system load? I only have 2 XChats and a torrent program open and my system load is 2.01
[13:27] <Walex> nobreakmaibam: there are lots of online HOWTOs on that. Have a look at 'mencoder'.
[13:27] <coz_> nobreakmaibam,   http://handbrake.fr/downloads.php
[13:27] <suman> System > Administration menu is missing in my Kubunu 8.10 installation. How do i get it back?
[13:27] <Walex> Wizards: check what are the two programs with 'top'
[13:27] <Duesentrieb> moymoy: if that is true, it's silly. if i have a system running off the hd, it should be able to repartition. the installer should simpyl tell me that.
[13:27] <benn> someone pls help me with editing the grub so that to load from an compiled kernel.....
[13:27] <coz_> nobreakmaibam,    http://handbrake.fr/downloads.php
[13:27] <Walex> benn: there are many, many, many GRUB tutorials.
[13:27] <Wizards> Walex what is top?
[13:27] <Walex> Wizards: command line program. just run it.
[13:28] <Duesentrieb> moymoy: it just seems silly to have to *burn* a cd to boot a dummy system just to run an installer. it feels very 90s :)
[13:28] <benn> Walex: can i PM you?
[13:28] <coz_> Wizards,   or install  htop   which is  far better
[13:28] <nobreakmaibam> video converter softwares for ubuntu ???? i want to videos for my mobile phone
[13:28] <Wizards> i have htop already
[13:28] <Wizards> what do i do now?
[13:28] <Duesentrieb> just installing the OS onto some free partitions shouldn't require a reboot at all. why would it?
[13:28] <Walex> benn: yes, but what's the point? Are you going to ask a question that is private?
[13:28] <nobreakmaibam> um coz :-)
[13:28] <nobreakmaibam> wait
[13:28] <nobreakmaibam> i will see it
[13:28] <Duesentrieb> but maybe it's traditional :)
[13:28] <benn> Walex no..just not to flood here
[13:29] <Walex> Wizards: and what are the programs that consume most CPU time?
[13:29] <coz_> nobreakmaibam,  handbrake is a more complex application but it should work
[13:29] <Walex> benn: that's fine, send by PM.
[13:29] <coz_> nobreakmaibam,   not sure but you might also want to try   Lives
[13:29] <Duesentrieb> ok, so... let me rephrase.
[13:29] <fbianconi> nobreakmaibam: have you tied some of this? http://www.google.com.ar/search?sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8&q=convert+avi,mpeg+to+3gp+ubuntu
[13:29] <Duesentrieb> is there a good reason i need to boot from a dummy system in order to run the installer?
[13:29] <nobreakmaibam> let me try coz :
[13:30] <Walex> benn: that syntax looks good. prhaps remove "quiet splash" so you can see what is happening during the boot.
[13:30] <patrik> Hi, I have a question regarding updates. Is it safe to modify css-files in joomla and modules without them being replaced when installing updates? I understand this is dependent on how the modules work but what is the general case?
[13:30] <Wizards> Walex, what do you mean cpu time? I see CPU% and then I see TIME+
[13:30] <benn> Walex: and "ro" also to delete?
[13:30] <Walex> Wizards: CPU%
[13:30] <Wizards> wow my load is 3.05 now
[13:31] <patrik> Ooops sorry wrong channel :)
[13:31] <Walex> benn: no, "ro" is good.
[13:31] <benn> Walex:  and now?reboot and see what it says?
[13:31] <shengzi> Walex, i have searched for the word error in all my dmesg files but found none, from your experience do you think i should get a new hard disc?
[13:32] <Walex> benn: yes, and it is likely to work, if the UUIDs are right, and the 'initrd' has the right modules.
[13:32] <Wizards> Walex, I'm not finding anything more than 2.0..and that's firefox
[13:32] <Walex> shengzi: from that 'dmesg' the problem seems to be that you are trying to use hibernate on a system on which it is not reliable.
[13:32] <benn> Walex: i-ve coppied the UUIDs from the kernel that loads now,the last version
[13:33] <Walex> Wizards: then don't worry -- the load average is not always that reliable.
[13:33] <Wizards> but my pc is slow >.<
[13:33] <Wizards> I'm going to restart
[13:33] <nobreakmaibam> coz: here  is given it can give mp4 n MKV file format in thier site????
[13:34] <nobreakmaibam> their **
[13:34] <shengzi> Walex, I see...but I wasn't trying to hibernate,,,,,maybe i f i somehow switch off the hibernate option this would stop? but sometimes the system doesn't boot at all, it doesnt even get to grub...
[13:34] <Walex> shengzi: if it does not get to GRUB then there is a hw problem indeed. And I would switch hibernate off, just in case.
[13:35] <balachmar>  #django
[13:35] <shengzi> Walex, is there someway i can check the disc thru ubuntu now that it booted?
[13:35] <benn> Walez: it`s ok that i coppied the UUID from another kernel?
[13:36] <Walex> shengzi: not very reliably. Try 'smartctl -l /dev/sda'
[13:36] <Walex> benn: that should be good.
[13:36] <john112> hi i cant seam to get sount atall on my laptop ho dv6
[13:36] <shengzi> Walex,  thanks will try that
[13:36] <erUSUL> !intelhda | john112
[13:36] <benn> Walez: don`t know....i`ve rebooted and it didn`t worked:( i`ll try again
[13:37] <john112> kk thanks
[13:37] <nobreakmaibam> coz: u der?
[13:37] <rdm> problems with audio  skype! doyou know???
[13:38] <EuphoniC> anyone have an idea how I can reinstall proftpd? I apt-get remove proftpd and then rm -rf /etc/proftpd but now when i apt-get install proftpd it doesn't create/install the files in /etc/proftp --- any one know what I got to do to get it to install again???
[13:38] <moymoy> Duesentrieb: ubuntu comes with a usb-boot-disk creator .. it's somwhere in the menu.. i think system/administrator
[13:38] <Duesentrieb> moymoy: i still need to reboot for no good reason - but at least i wouldn't waste a disk.
[13:39] <rsfs> hi there, does anyone have a good working AMD motherboard?
[13:39] <Duesentrieb> moymoy: also... then i have a usb boot stick. how would i run the installer? all a bit silly :) i want Wubi for linux :)
[13:39] <rsfs> I have problems with my MSI K9N Neo V2
[13:41] <Duesentrieb> i could try to run wubi from wine :P
[13:41] <dev_n00b> lulz
[13:41] <dev_n00b> I need to convert an xubuntu wubi install to a real install and go ext4 :O
[13:41] <nobreakmaibam> how to convert  avi mpg to 3pg in ubuntu
[13:41] <nobreakmaibam> any softwares'
[13:41] <nobreakmaibam> ??????????????/
[13:42] <nobreakmaibam> 3gp ***
[13:42]  * dev_n00b draws the Veve of Papa Legba on the floor
[13:42]  * dev_n00b gets candles and chicken bones
[13:42] <dev_n00b> gonna be a long day
[13:42]  * dev_n00b wonders if he should take his concerta normally, or snort it
[13:44] <ghostlines> does everyone see a "/notice" message or is it private?
[13:44] <Walex> dev_n00b: pray very very intensely to Shuttleworth and focus on the GNU
[13:44] <MertTheGreat> hi,