[14:14] <MetaMorfoziS> read again.
[14:15] <MetaMorfoziS> No, i'm ignore you, idiot:)
[14:15] <Ehlyah> unop_: yeah, ifdown; ifup just gets me no such file or directory
[14:15] <hischild> MetaMorfoziS, i have. You are running hardy. Don't ask here, as support on this channel is Gutsy only.
[14:15] <theunixgeek> The clipboard bug REALLY needs to be fixed.
[14:15] <unop_> Ehlyah, hmm very very strange. what does this give you?  ls -l /etc/resolv.conf
[14:17] <blahblahx> how do i get a suspend option in the quit menu ?
[14:17] <b4l74z4r> when you assign commandline options behind a given commando, does it matter in which order you assign them?
[14:17] <Jimbo> unop: -rwxr-xr-x l root 3999 2007-04-11 08:50 /etc/init.d/kdm
[14:17] <Ehlyah> unop_: no such file or directory
[14:17] <unop_> b4l74z4r, that really depends on the command in question
[14:17] <unop_> Jimbo, sudo update-rc.d kdm stop 1-5
[14:18] <Erosion> How can I install GLIB on ubuntu?
[14:18] <Peanut> Ehlyah: try /sbin/ifup and /sbin/ifdown instead?
[14:18] <Ehlyah> unop_: seems it's resolvconf rather than resolv.conf
[14:18] <unop_> Ehlyah, hmm, your system's quite messed up :)
[14:18] <unop_> Ehlyah, run this.. sudo apt-get install --reinstall resolvconf
[14:18] <Jimbo> error: expected NN after stop
[14:19] <Jimbo> unop_: error: expected NN after stop
[14:19] <dav7> channel staffers: you might notice "dav7_" joining/parting every so often - it's a bot I'm working on, that needs a large channel list in order to work - it's a relay with a particularly original (in my estimation) "forward" method that requires a large amount of nicks to be tested properly.
[14:19] <shekk> j football
[14:19] <shekk> hmm
[14:19] <shekk> oooops
[14:19] <blahblahx> anyone?
[14:19] <b4l74z4r> what do you do when you are finished reading a manual in the terminal, how do you get back the prompt?
[14:19] <unop_> Jimbo, bah, i suck at this command :)  sudo update-rc.d -f kdm remove
[14:19] <shekk> ctrl+c or q
[14:20] <dav7> b4l74z4r: depends on the pager, usually... what shekk said
[14:20] <unop_> b4l74z4r, q
[14:20] <napsy_> does awt use regex for searching patterns?
[14:20] <Erosion> How can I install GLIB on ubuntu?
[14:20] <napsy_> *awk
[14:20] <b4l74z4r> ok, thanks
[14:20] <jussi01> dav7: could you please join #ubuntu-ops ?
[14:20] <Okkef> did anyone notice BerliOS is down? I can't download Cairo Dock anywhere :(
[14:20] <dav7> jussi01: I will, thankyou.
[14:20] <unop_> napsy_, i think it does .. but do ask in #awk
[14:20] <blahblahx> Erosion: yeah questions dont really get answered here unless they are easy
[14:20] <Ehlyah> unop_: "package resolvconf is not available, but is referred to by another package.  This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or is only available from another source. E: Package resolvconf has no installation candidate"
[14:20] <Erosion> lol
[14:20] <Farnaby> Anybody have much expierience with dual cores + Ubuntu 7.10?
[14:20] <Totem> Is there a way to have gedit number the lines?
[14:20] <hischild> blahblahx, i disagree. I spend 10 hours here fixing my problem and have been helped all the way through
[14:20] <hischild> Farnaby, what's up?
[14:21] <Erosion> LjL: Know how I could install GLIB?
[14:21] <Totem> or show the line numbers?
[14:21] <LjL> Ehlyah: want to bet there's something missing in your sources.list?
[14:21] <Peanut> Farnaby: works for me
[14:21] <shekk> apt-get update; apt-get upgrade; apt-get install glib
[14:21] <shekk> ?
[14:21] <LjL> Erosion: sudo apt-get install grub
[14:21] <Farnaby> hischild, installed 7.10 on monday and it seems that both ores are 100% all of the time
[14:21] <bazzawill> I have used ubuntu 7.10 and dual core amd no probs
[14:21] <blahblahx> hischild: hmm i guess ive gotten a tricky question answered here too. it only took 3 weeks of asking on three channels every day though
[14:21] <Farnaby> Makes things sluggish
[14:21] <blahblahx> hischild: to even get the beginning of an answer
[14:21] <theunixgeek> any ncurses programmers here?
[14:21] <Erosion> LjL: It says GRUB is already the latest version.
[14:21] <unop_> Ehlyah, ok, let's deal with this once you have your network up.. run this.  sudo touch /etc/resolv.conf
[14:21] <Totem> Can I have gedit who line numbers?
[14:21] <hischild> blahblahx, well the final solution was easy
[14:21] <Totem> *show
[14:21] <unop_> Ehlyah, and then bring eth0 up again.. try pinging
[14:21] <hischild> blahblahx, just took me 10 hours to get there, with a dozen helpers
[14:22] <blahblahx> hischild: nice :)
[14:22] <hischild> Farnaby, can you see what process is using that cpu power?
[14:22] <Shepherd> Does anyone know of a program that I can use to manage & store data about VNC, RDP, and other remote desktop protocols?
[14:22] <LjL> Erosion: then it probably is. in fact, grub is installed by default on ubuntu. what happened?
[14:22] <Ehlyah> unop_: I'll make that resolvconf without the . ? since I do have that?
[14:22] <Totem> hello???
[14:22] <unop_> Ehlyah, no, the . is critical
[14:22] <Peanut> Farnaby: any idea what's keeping those cores so busy? Mine (dual core E8400@3GHz) works fine indeed and is quite fast
[14:22] <Totem> nvm, I found it
[14:22] <Erosion> LjL: I'm trying to install Conspire, but it's saying it can't find the path of GLIB, is it installed? So I wondered.
[14:22] <Erosion> LjL: Any ideas?
[14:22] <unop_> Ehlyah, there's a difference in the two files
[14:22] <b1ch0> solved !!!
[14:23] <Farnaby> suddenly its looking like BTNX might be whats causing the issue
[14:23] <unop_> Shepherd, iirc, tsclient handles all of them and it's installed by default
[14:23] <Shepherd> tsclient ?
[14:23] <unop_> !info tsclient | Shepherd
[14:23] <Slider> my delete button doesnt work as delete in my MacBookPro, can anyone help ?
[14:23] <ubotu> shepherd: tsclient (source: tsclient): front-end for viewing of remote desktops in GNOME. In component main, is optional. Version 0.148-3ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 294 kB, installed size 1052 kB
[14:23] <Shepherd> Terminal Server client ?
[14:23] <Shepherd> ah
[14:24] <mandiri> HI
[14:24] <Shepherd> thanks
[14:24] <Shepherd> ah no that's not what I ment
[14:24] <blahblahx> does the package suspend2-ui add the suspend functionality to the gnome quit menu
[14:24] <unop_> Shepherd, what did you mean then?
[14:24] <Ehlyah> unop_: okay, did it with the ., no problem, sudo sh ifdown ifup, no problem, pinging ended with ctrl+c and nothing
[14:24] <Farnaby> anybody know how to turn BTNX off is the next question I guess
[14:24] <unop_> Ehlyah, so ping isn't working fine.
[14:25] <Ehlyah> unop_: I'd say it isn't
[14:25] <unop_> Ehlyah, *phew*  can i have that pastebin thing again
[14:25] <unop_> ?
[14:25] <Shepherd> I mean a program which manages accounts.. It's a pain to connect to every remote desktop with tsclient, I need a program which has something like a drop down menu of many clients open at the same time. If such a program exists
[14:25] <Ehlyah> unop_: of what?
[14:25] <LjL> Erosion, i don't know what conspire is
[14:25] <Erosion> An IRC Client
[14:25] <earthling> having following problem in mplayer; pasted here --http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/62924/
[14:26] <unop_> Ehlyah, and then pastebin the output of this command please.   ifconfig; route -n; cat /etc/network/interfaces
[14:26] <unop_> Ehlyah, this one
[14:26] <CriSiS> hola hola
[14:26] <CriSiS> has anyone installed ubuntu ppc on an external hdd?
[14:26] <Siph0n> hey.... where does gutsy keep the default pin to use for bluetooth? i thought it was /etc/bluetooth/pin , but i dont see that file there
[14:27] <earthling> anyone?
[14:27] <Slider> my delete button doesnt work as delete in my MacBookPro, can anyone help ?
[14:27] <earthling> please
[14:27] <shekk> lol
[14:27] <unop_> Shepherd, not sure - but if you can script, you should be able to cook something up with rdesktop
[14:27] <mbrandt> Slider you may need to remap the button
[14:27] <mbrandt> through the keyboard manager
[14:28] <Shepherd> unop_ I need a program which manages many connections at once, not one
[14:28] <Slider> mbrandt, how ?
[14:28] <Shepherd> oh
[14:28] <mbrandt> slider, hang on
[14:28] <Shepherd> didn't see your responce.. alright, thanks. I'll keep looking for now :P
[14:28] <unop_> Shepherd, tsclient can handle many connections (albeit through many windows) .. i must be missing something
[14:28] <Shepherd> I know it can handle them, but I have to open a new one for each connection, and I could have up to 200 open at the same time
[14:29] <Shepherd> its very disorganized
[14:29] <Shepherd> at that point
[14:29] <mbrandt> Slider, System-->Preferences-->keyboard
[14:29] <unop_> Shepherd, :o 200? my lord
[14:29] <Shepherd> Yea.. :(
[14:29] <Farnaby> odd... after uninstalling BTNX its still showing in TOP
[14:29] <Ehlyah> unop_: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/62925/
[14:29] <Shepherd> I was imagining something like, a side menu with all the host names / ips,
[14:29] <unop_> Shepherd, forget i even said rdesktop because even that works like tsclient .. one window per desktop
[14:30] <cow_2001> where do i get the config file of the default ubuntu kernel?
[14:30] <Shepherd> oh
[14:30] <Peanut> Farnaby: just kill it
[14:30] <J-Unit> is it possible to have a diff desktop wallpaper on each workspace?
[14:30] <Peanut> J-Unit: seconded, I would like that very much too!
[14:30] <J-Unit> like to force it to change wallpaper on a certtain workspace
[14:30] <unop_> Shepherd, not sure something like that even exists .. although you could program something like that again, with rdesktop and it's libraries - but that's probably not what you are looking to hear
[14:31] <J-Unit> Peanut, im glad im not alone :)
[14:31] <J-Unit> Peanut, well not cuz ur sufering
[14:31] <J-Unit> Peanut, lol
[14:31] <jrib> J-Unit, Peanut: if using effects, you can set that in cccsm.  If using metacity, google for wallpapoz
[14:31] <Peanut> J-Unit: It works on SUSE-10.1 which we have at work, but that's based on KDE I believe.
[14:31] <Shepherd> Not really, but if that's what it comes to, I don't think it will be terribly complicated
[14:31] <jrib> J-Unit, Peanut: erm, ccsm not cccsm
[14:31] <unop_> Ehlyah, you've made a mistake with this command.  route -n  # can you include that in another paste please
[14:31] <unop_> Ehlyah, spaces count :)
[14:32] <Peanut> jrib: "Community Climate System Model" ? :-)
[14:32] <J-Unit> jrib, wait wat do i look for wallpapoz or ccsm?
[14:32] <Shepherd> J-unit I'd do that simply to make the wall papers say 1, 2, 3, 4 on there respective desktops :P
[14:32] <jrib> J-Unit: do you have effects enabled?
[14:32] <Ehlyah> unop_: it's... a common fact that I can't type
[14:32] <jrib> Peanut: close: compizconfig-settings-manager :)
[14:32] <J-Unit> jrib, i can all jellow effects etc but i like normal better (no effects) but i have a capable pc if thats wat ur asking
[14:32] <Peanut> Ah right, that's the 4th hit *grin*
[14:32] <Jimbo> Is it possible to disable some autostart programs/services in Ubuntu?
[14:33] <amenado> Jimbo-> yes
[14:33] <jrib> J-Unit: if they are on, you can use ccsm.  If they are not and you are using metacity as your window manager, then you can use wallpapoz
[14:33] <unop_> Ehlyah, no worries, typo's happen all the time even with people who can type :)
[14:33] <Jimbo> How?
[14:33] <J-Unit> Jimbo, maybe ubuntu tweak does that
[14:33] <amenado> Jimbo-> which particular service?
[14:33] <unop_> Jimbo, did the last command i give you work?
[14:34] <Peanut> Ok, next stupid question: how do I know if I'm running compiz or metacity?
[14:34] <Jimbo> amenado: I wanna learn which I don't need and disable them to free up resources
[14:34] <jrib> Peanut: system -> preferences -> visual effects
[14:34] <unop_> !bum
[14:34] <ubotu> Boot options: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions - To add/remove startup services, you can use the package 'bum', or update-rc.d - To add your own startup scripts, use /etc/rc.local - See also !grub and !dualboot - Making a boot floppy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto/BootFloppy - Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SmartBootManagerHowto
[14:34] <Jimbo> unop_: Yep, thanks a bunch.
[14:34] <user1>  theres no software to measure watts consumed by me computer?
[14:34] <unop_> Jimbo, see the output of ubotu up there ^^
[14:34] <Ehlyah> unop_: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/62926/
[14:35] <J-Unit> jrib, k, thx, just one last question, wenever/if ever i choose to enable effects, will wallpapoz still work?
[14:35] <Shepherd> unop_ I found something called KDE Remote Desktop Manager but it doesn't run on amd64 D:
[14:35] <jrib> J-Unit: I think the author wanted it to at one point, but I've never tried
[14:35] <Peanut> jrib: I don't have that, I guess that means I'm running metacity? I do have all kinds of funky desktop effects (wobbly windows when they move e.g.)
[14:35] <Jimbo> unop_: how do I use update-rc.d? is that a command?
[14:35] <amenado> Jimbo-> may I suggest reading a good linux ubuntu book or a linux book in general?  that way you would learn what you would consider needed, essential, or extra, and undernstand the effects of turning it off or on
[14:36] <unop_> amenado, maybe you can figure out why this still doesn't work, Ehlyah can't ping gateway, here's output of ifconfig, route -n -- http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/62926/
[14:36] <unop_> Jimbo, update-rc.d is a command yes .. see it's manpage on how to use it
[14:36] <Peanut> Hmm.. no,
[14:36] <J-Unit> jrib, k, thx anyway
[14:36] <Peanut> Hmm.. no, 'ps' says I'm running compiz, thought I was.
[14:36] <J-Unit> jrib, k, thx, anyway*
[14:37] <robbb> hi, im trying to create a page in the ubuntu wiki but it gives me "A problem occurred in a Python script."
[14:37] <Peanut> Installing compizconfig-settings-manager now, thanks!
[14:38] <Toznoshio> I need to install some software on a Gutsy box which is not connected to the Internet. How can I obtain direct download links to the various .deb files in the repositories?
[14:38] <amenado> Ehlyah  here  netmask 255.255.255. and try to add broadcast <IP_ADDRESS> ...then if you can not ping still, id check your cat 5 cables or see if any blinking light indicators
[14:39] <Hoxzer> Toznoshio: http://packages.ubuntu.com/
[14:39] <Jimbo> OK, where do I get ssh server, doesn't Ubuntu have it installed?
[14:39] <beast> !search Trinians
[14:39] <ubotu> Found:
[14:39] <unop_> Ehlyah, also you might not have the right netmask for your interface .. it could be set differently
[14:39] <jrib> !ssh > Jimbo (read the private message from ubotu)
[14:39] <amenado> Toznoshio-> do you have an intermediate computer to download those to?
[14:39] <Toznoshio> Hoxzer: thanks for the tip, I'll try that
[14:39] <Ehlyah> unop_ amenado: subnet mask? I just copied it from this computer since it's on the same network
[14:40] <Toznoshio> amenado: Yes, I will be moving the deb files on a USB stick
[14:40] <Siph0n> in my /etc/bluetooth/hcid.conf file i see a Pin Helper line that says , " pin_helper /usr/bin/cw_pin.pl; " , but that cw_pin.pl file doesnt exist.... any ideas?
[14:40] <unop_> Ehlyah, how hard would it be for you to get back into windows at this point?
[14:40] <dmsuperman_> so i've got a domain pointing to afraid.org dns servers, and the domain isn't working right now, but going to my ip does. anybody know how i can test if it's the dns or if it's godaddy?
[14:40] <amenado> Toznoshio-> okay
[14:40] <W8TAH> morning folks -- how do ii get a particulalar netowrk profile to be the default one in the network manager?
[14:40] <amenado> Ehlyah-> did you do the other checks I suggested?
[14:41] <Ehlyah> unop_: windows is just a reboot away
[14:41] <unop_> Ehlyah, it'd be easier if you could gather the right ip address, subnet mask and gateway from windows .. and also make note of the gateways MAC address via the "arp -a" command
[14:41] <Ehlyah> amenado: I'm not sure what you mean by broadcast? Should I change my ip to that?
[14:41] <cvd-pr> Can i change my username and the /home name without any problem?
[14:41] <Jimbo> How do I get installers instead of apt-get?
[14:41] <unop_> Ehlyah, ok, do that then, boot into windows and make note of these details, we could try again with them at hand
[14:42] <amenado> Ehlyah-> in the interfaces file you put an entry  broadcast <IP_ADDRESS>
[14:42] <unop_> !hostname > cvd-pr  ( see private message from ubotu )
[14:42] <unop_> cvd-pr, there should be no problem if you do it right
[14:42] <Gustavo> hi, i need a tip, anyone can help me?
[14:43] <amenado> Ehlyah-> and is your <IP_ADDRESS>  router interface up and running also? are you sure its ip adress is really <IP_ADDRESS> ?
[14:43] <rinaldi_> hi, im trying to get the ps3 sixaxis working through usb. I tried this: http://ps3.jim.sh/sixaxis/usb/ and didn't apply the patch it told me becuase my kernel is higher than 2.6.21. when i do jstest --normal /dev/input/js1 I get http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/62923/ but when I do jscal it tells me it's a bad address
[14:43] <amenado> Jimbo-> man dpkg
[14:44] <Ehlyah> amenado: <IP_ADDRESS> is the default gteway adress an ipconfig got me on this computer
[14:44] <rinaldi_> anyone got the sixaxis working?
[14:44] <amenado> Gustavo-> state the problem, and lets see if we have a suggestion
[14:44] <Jimbo> amenado: can I do this from a windows machine?
[14:44] <J-Unit> jrib, the site says it works on beryl/compiz (latest release)
[14:44] <jrib> Jimbo: can you rephrase your question?  What do you mean?
[14:44] <Ehlyah> amenado: trying to ping got me "network is unreachable"
[14:44] <amenado> Ehlyah-> am coming in late to the picture, can you summarize what you have a host? how are things inter-connected?
[14:45] <Jimbo> I want to download the program for Ubuntu on a windows machine and then install it on Ubuntu
[14:45] <Peanut> jrib: desktop cube + keyboard repeat = dizzy peanut *grin*
[14:45] <amenado> Jimbo-> sort of yes.. open your browser, then look for  man dpkg or ubuntu dpkg install
[14:45] <Gustavo> i'm buying a notebook, but note sure if i'd buy a core duo or core2duo... (coreDuo is so cheape)r
[14:45] <hischild> Jimbo, just save the file to a known location on your windows partition. Then you can navigate to it on ubuntu.
[14:46] <Ehlyah> amenado: I've got a cable hooking my desktop up to the routermodem. that's pretty much it
[14:46] <J-Unit> wallpapoz-0.4.1.tar.bz2     how do i make this a .deb? how do i compile basically?
[14:46] <Jimbo> hischild: what file?
[14:46] <jrib> Jimbo: because your ubuntu has no internet?
[14:46] <Jimbo> jrib: Yes
[14:46] <amenado> Ehlyah-> and this the same computer is dual boot? and same cat 5 cable you used for connections?
[14:46] <jrib> Jimbo: double click on it and read the INSTALL or README file inside
[14:47] <unop_> J-Unit, look into making a debian package
[14:47] <jrib> J-Unit: double click on it and read the INSTALL or README file inside
[14:47] <Jimbo> jrib: double click on what?
[14:47] <hischild> Jimbo, whatever file you wanted to install that you downloaded on windows.
[14:47] <Ehlyah> amenado: yes, it's a dual boot. the vista part of it has wireless, though
[14:47] <jrib> Jimbo: wrong name, sorry.
[14:47] <Jimbo> hischild: I didn't download
[14:47] <unop_> Ehlyah, is eth0 a wireless interface?
[14:47] <Ehlyah> unop_: no
[14:47] <ganteng_abis_man> what
[14:47] <hypn0> Jimbo: http://packages.ubuntu.com/
[14:48] <dmsuperman_> does anybody know of a free reliable dns service? all i want is to point my domain to my computer
[14:48] <amenado> Ehlyah-> thats the thing, im not getting a full picture of what you have and what connections you are using in vista...please elaborate
[14:48] <unop_> Ehlyah, so how does vista have a wireless connection?
[14:48] <hischild> Jimbo, >I want to download the program for Ubuntu on a windows machine and then install it on Ubuntu< you can download those files just fine on windows.
[14:49] <unop_> dmsuperman, i'd recommend zoneedit
[14:49] <didy> if i abort gparted resizing the partition now, will anything go wrong??
[14:49] <Gustavo> amenado: i'm buying a notebook, but not sure if i'd buy a core duo or core2duo... (coreDuo is so cheaper). i use basic sources, like ubuntu  for internet and office
[14:49] <Jimbo> what is difference between openssh-server-udeb and Package openssh-server?
[14:49] <dmsuperman_> unop_ alright. i tried them, and i don't remember why i didn't stick but i'll try again :D
[14:49] <amenado> Gustavo-> are you sure you want to spend that much for that purpose? even an older laptop would suffice I believe for your needs.. buy what you may consider affordable
[14:50] <unop_> dmsuperman, there are a few others, but zonedit has always been easy to work with
[14:50] <jrib> Jimbo: only one exists?  Where are you finding this -udeb?
[14:50] <Ehlyah> amenado, unop_: we've got a modemrouter set up, WEP encryption, vista connects to it no problem (also, rebooting to that for a minute now). I'm not sure what you need to know. I spent all of yesterday trying to get ubuntu to accept a wireless connection, but even though I eventually got it to accept an access point, it still wouldn't get an IP adress and refused to connect, no matter what
[14:50] <jrib> Jimbo: I'd use a modification of: http://www.batmat.net/apt-offline/ch3.html
[14:50] <Jimbo> http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=openssh-server&searchon=names&suite=gutsy&section=all
[14:51] <Gustavo> amenado: yes, i think you are right. core2duo is R$1,899 and core duo R$1,424 and a free bag (brazilian courrency)
[14:51] <jrib> Jimbo: "This package provides the sshd server for use in debian-installer"
[14:51] <amenado> Ehlyah-> okay, I wanted to know, when you are using vista, how are you connected to the modemrouter? via wifi (wireless) or cat 5 cable (ethernet) ?
[14:51] <unop_> Ehlyah, ok while you are in windows, can you verify that the wired connection works ok,  disable the wireless interface while you test it out
[14:52] <Ehlyah> amenado: wifi
[14:52] <Ehlyah> unop_ will do
[14:52] <J-Unit> jrib, the readme instructions are not helping
[14:52] <Jimbo> what is difference between openssh-server-udeb and openssh-server?
[14:52] <packagedeliverer> hi, like many I have a problem with an unsupported wireless chipset in ubuntu... has anyone ever gotten that to work on a fujitsu desktop?
[14:52] <jrib> J-Unit: pastebin them and tell me the first line that does not make sense
[14:52] <jrib> !paste > j-unit (read the private message from ubotu)
[14:52] <GIn> packagedeliverer: have you tried with Ndiswrapper already?
[14:53] <jrib> !wifi > packagedeliverer (read the private message from ubotu)
[14:53] <GIn> !wifi > gin
[14:53] <amenado> Gustavo-> i have a brazilian friend, no wonder when he bought a laptop here for 750 dolares is cheap he thinks and I thought was expensive , he sent it home to brazilia..
[14:53] <J-Unit> jrib, its not sense but its always giving problems
[14:53] <unop_> packagedeliverer, are you sure your card isn't listed here - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WirelessCardsSupported
[14:54] <jrib> J-Unit: then pastebin what you did and the resulting problems
[14:54] <packagedeliverer> yes, I checked unop_
[14:54] <packagedeliverer> not there
[14:54] <J-Unit> jrib, k, ill redo the things
[14:54] <Seveas> packagedeliverer, which chipset?
[14:54] <packagedeliverer> "CONNECT2AIR WLAN E-5400 USB D1700"
[14:55] <packagedeliverer> a usb device...
[14:55] <packagedeliverer> so far worse
[14:55] <Seveas> packagedeliverer, that's a device model, not a chipset
[14:55] <packagedeliverer> Ok, I'll have to google it then
[14:56] <J-Unit> jrib, now i did it more carefully using my logic and not exactly wat it said (i dont no if that makes sense to u) and i got the dependencies problem
[14:56] <jrib> J-Unit: you need to pastebin what is happening for me to understand
[14:56] <J-Unit> jrib, o ya lol, k wait
[14:56] <GIn> Seveas: does lsusb | grep Network tell you the chipset?
[14:57] <Seveas> GIn, not sure in case of usb. lspci does for pci devices, but usb...
[14:57] <J-Unit> jrib, http://pastebin.com/d5aa45a4e
[14:57] <bullgard4> English help wanted. Is there a verb 'to regex', such as in the sentence "I do regex for the file extensions..."?   R$1424 is like US$850
[14:58] <J-Unit> lol i forgot no swearing here
[14:58] <jrib> J-Unit: should be
[14:58] <kingkong> anyone installed ubuntu on ASUS R2 ?
[14:58] <Seveas> bullgard4, in that line it means search or match... but this is an ubuntu channel, not a help-with-english channel
[14:59] <bullgard4> Seveas: Please note that I am asking here because I am an Ubuntu user.
[15:00] <ikonia> so ?
[15:00] <ikonia> the question is nothing to do with ubuntu
[15:00] <GIn> bullgard4: those questions belong to #ubuntu-offtopic
[15:00] <J-Unit> jrib, ~18 mb, itll take a wile on my dial-up connection...anyway thx things should be good for me now :)
[15:00] <bullgard4> GIn: They don't.
[15:00] <ikonia> why argue
[15:01] <Jimbo> bullgard4: regex is regula expressions, google
[15:01] <ikonia> you'll get a better response in #ubuntu-offtopic
[15:01] <Jimbo> *regular
[15:01] <GIn> bullgard4: this is a Ubuntu support channel not an english supper channel ;)
[15:02] <amenado> Gustavo yes in USA, btw paying more than 25% for warranty (I call it insurance) is very expensive.  for example, pc sold for 400 dolares, they want 125 for warranty..very expensive
[15:02] <ikonia> !offtopic > amenado
[15:03] <amenado> no problem, its  a slow morning anyways  <wink>
[15:03] <Jimbo> I installed open-ssh server, is it already running?
[15:03] <ikonia> Jimbo: it executes start up after install
[15:03] <Seveas> Jimbo, yes
[15:03] <ikonia> Jimbo: ssh localhost will test it
[15:03] <Pirate_Hunter> can someone tell me if the commands to get conky showing mounted cdrom/floppy/flash drives is the same as the HD commands and will it show automatically those devices when they are mounted and umounted
[15:03] <didy> OMG so long!!!!
[15:04] <Jimbo> it says connection refused
[15:04] <ikonia> Jimbo: ps -ef | grep ssh
[15:04] <sYn_0n3> bom dia!!!
[15:04] <Jimbo> Do I have to restart?
[15:04] <ikonia> Jimbo: does that return anything
[15:04] <ikonia> Jimbo: no
[15:04] <Seveas> hello sYn_0n3
[15:05]  * dmsuperman_ is now listening to: Metallica - To Live is to Die - \m/
[15:05] <sYn_0n3> i have a question maybe you guys can help me out. i recently installed enlightenment e17 via cvs now when i do synaptic updates it crashes
[15:05] <unop__> dmsuperman, err, no spam please.
[15:05] <ikonia> dmsuperman_irssi: can you please disable that plugin
[15:05] <sYn_0n3> sayin i have to do sudo dpkg --configure -a..i do that but it just times out..how can i correct this
[15:05] <Gustavo> amenado: in portuguese we use a character you don't... Ç ... so in your keyboard doesn't have that type
[15:05] <ikonia> sYn_0n3: depends what's being updated
[15:05] <Jimbo> ikonia: How do I know it is running>
[15:05] <sYn_0n3> the enlightenment cvs
[15:06] <ikonia> sYn_0n3: E17 is still in development so moving to version $X of a dependency could break it
[15:06] <ikonia> Jimbo: did "ps -ef | grep ssh" bring any response ?
[15:06] <Jimbo> ikonia: Yes it does
[15:06] <ikonia> Jimbo: can you show me the output
[15:06] <Jimbo> enver     5447  5403  0 17:02 ?        00:00:00 /usr/bin/ssh-agent /usr/bin/dbus                                                              -launch --exit-with-session x-session-manager
[15:06] <Jimbo> enver     6597  6579  0 18:05 pts/1    00:00:00 grep ssh
[15:06] <sYn_0n3> ikonia it E still works its just trying to update the cvs and i believe the cvs server is down because it keeps timing out and never completes
[15:06] <ikonia> Jimbo: neither of them are ssh
[15:07] <Jimbo> so?
[15:07] <ikonia> sYn_0n3: ok, so what do you want #ubuntu to do
[15:07] <Seveas> Jimbo, sudo /etc/init.d/ssh start
[15:07] <kingkong> i need help... :(
[15:07] <ikonia> Jimbo: sudo
[15:07] <ikonia> never mind
[15:07] <Ehlyah> unop_: seem to be having some trouble setting up a wired connection in vista too, but I do have my ip, subnet mask, gateway adress and gateway MAC
[15:07] <ikonia> Seveas: got there first
[15:07] <FloodBot2> ikonia: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:07] <sYn_0n3> how can i stop the cvs update and do my regular synaptic updates
[15:07] <Jimbo> ikonia: command not found
[15:07] <ikonia> sYn_0n3: cvs is nothing to do with synaptic
[15:07] <ikonia> Jimbo: sudo apt-get install openssh-server
[15:07] <Seveas> (ikonia: you can install cvs with synaptic :))
[15:08] <sYn_0n3> my repository is add to my sources and it updates the cvs via synaptic
[15:08] <ikonia> Seveas: yes, but he said the cvs update is failing
[15:08] <Jimbo> ikonia: I installed through a deb package
[15:08] <DarrenCB9> Hi, I'm having trouble with ubuntu-server, after I reboot the memory usage steadly goes up and up but when I look at the list of processes nothing seems to be consuming large amounts of memory, can anyone suggest how I might diagnose this problem?
[15:08] <unop__> Ehlyah, all i can think of is that the router has some resrictions on allowing wired connections .. maybe something needs to be enabled .. also check MAC address restrictions
[15:08] <Seveas> ikonia, I know, was just joking
[15:08] <ikonia> Seveas: ahh
[15:08] <kingkong> i just erased ubuntu partition but vista doesn t start again... how can i do ? (GRUB error ...) Please...
[15:08] <ikonia> DarrenCB9: how do you know the memory use is going up
[15:08] <jrib> Jimbo: so what does 'apt-cache policy openssh-server' return?
[15:08] <ikonia> kingkong: you need to put the winows boot loader back on
[15:08] <kingkong> how
[15:08] <duffbeer> :)  hey folks ... i just installed naother ubuntu 7.10 box ... new hardware ... for some reason i can't see videos on youtube, etc ... the browser offered several choices to install a plugin that will work, i picked the first one (the default one) and it didn't fix the problem, and now i don't know how to get back to that menu where i can install another plugin. ideas? :)
[15:08] <Seveas> kingkong, boot from a vista rescue cd (probably the install cd) and let it reinstall the bootloader
[15:09] <Pirate_Hunter> can someone tell me if the commands to get conky showing mounted cdrom/floppy/flash drives is the same as the HD commands and will it show automatically those devices when they are mounted and umounted?
[15:09] <kingkong> it is possible without install vista again ?
[15:09] <Jimbo> jrib: openssh-server:
[15:09] <Jimbo>   Installed: 1:4.6p1-5ubuntu0.2
[15:09] <Jimbo>   Candidate: 1:4.6p1-5ubuntu0.2
[15:09] <Jimbo>   Version table:
[15:09] <Jimbo>  *** 1:4.6p1-5ubuntu0.2 0
[15:09] <Jimbo>         100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
[15:09] <Gustavo> amenado: well, thanx for the tip. i g2g now. work is calling me! good morning
[15:09] <FloodBot2> Jimbo: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:09] <ikonia> kingkong: boot from a windows cd , use repair mode and use the fixboot option
[15:09] <unop__> Ehlyah, there's little point in trying to connect ubuntu up .. if this isnt sorted out first .. also, are you sure that you are using the right type of ethernet cable there, it's not a cross-over cable is it?
[15:09] <kingkong> ok ty i try immediatly ;)
[15:09] <unop__> Jimbo, can you use a pastebin please .. no pasting in the room
[15:09] <another_life> hi, i would like to use vnc, i have installed both vnc server and viewer but i saw that there are different versions... which one should I install ?
[15:10] <Seveas> another_life, ubuntu has a vnc client and server installed by default
[15:10] <another_life> where ?!
[15:10] <DarrenCB9> ikonia, the memory in use as reported by top and free increases close to my max memory but after that no swap is used.
[15:10] <Seveas> system -> preferences -> remote desktop and applications -> internet -> remote desktop
[15:10] <another_life> i installed it manually i swear
[15:10] <another_life> oooh
[15:10] <Jimbo> jrib: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/62931/
[15:10] <ikonia> DarrenCB9: that could be a good thing depending on how the kernel is managing memory
[15:10] <kimo> j/ #linuxac
[15:11] <Seveas> DarrenCB9, that's probably just the file cache then
[15:11] <another_life> well... i would like sth that i could use even if the other person doesnt have ubuntu...
[15:11] <Seveas> DarrenCB9, the kernel caches recently used files in memory, it'll delete them from memory when it's needed for other things
[15:11] <Seveas> that's better than having heaps of unused memory :)
[15:12] <Ehlyah> unop_: I'm not sure what kind of cable it is, but we have succesfully used it to plug things into the router before (xbox 360, usually)
[15:12] <user1>  which app gives me complete info about cput. like cpuz on windows does?
[15:12] <dmsuperman_> how can i list all the files in a directory from the commandline, even hidden files?
[15:12] <Stroganoff> ls -l
[15:12] <ikonia> dmsuperman_: ls -la
[15:12] <kingkong> omg... doesn t work ... :(
[15:12] <jrib> Jimbo: what's the full error you got from 'sudo /etc/init.d/ssh start'?
[15:12] <Seveas> another_life, the ubuntu vnc client/server can cooperate with vnc clients/servers on other platforms as well
[15:12] <dmsuperman_> ikonia: thankies :D
[15:12] <GIn> user1: cat /proc/cpuinfo
[15:12] <kingkong> i can t boot form dvd... !! :/
[15:12] <another_life> Seveas,  so i see :) thanks i will try it
[15:12] <Jimbo> jrib: sudo: /etc/init.d/ssh: command not found
[15:12] <kingkong> grub start before...
[15:12] <fizzle> hey all, i need some help install the Amazon MP3 Downloader on my 64-bit system, has anyone done this?
[15:12] <another_life> and how can I access someone other's computer ?
[15:12] <DarrenCB9> OK /proc/meminfo does show most of the memory in use as inactive, does that mean that its free for programs to use if necessary?
[15:13] <ikonia> kingkong: change the bios boot order
[15:13] <crimsun> fizzle: not on 64-bit, no.
[15:13] <kingkong> i already setup correctly bios but... doesn t works
[15:13] <GIn> user1: also try gnomefiles.org
[15:13] <ikonia> fizzle: you'd need a 32bit compatability libary set
[15:13] <Toznoshio> another_life: using either VNC or reverse VNC
[15:13] <ikonia> kingkong: then your bios/cdrom/dvd is broke
[15:13] <kingkong> i tried with ubunto disk boot too... same error
[15:13] <cyberbrainmfkg> hi all! is there a way to download program (ex: kompozer) and all it deps(no matter uf it is already installed or not)!i want to install that software on other computer that doesn't has internet connection!thanx
[15:13] <unop__> Ehlyah, ok, if you examine the cable's ends .. the colours should match up exactly .. if not you are probably using a cross-over cable . some devices (the XBOX maybe too) can detect this and switch over to accomodate it
[15:14] <kingkong> but... i installed ubuntu yesterday... :/
[15:14] <fizzle> ikonia, yeah i searched UF and found Getlibs, but i'm not quite sure how to go about making it all work
[15:14] <ikonia> kingkong: then your bios/cdrom/dvd is broke
[15:14] <Pirate_Hunter> can someone help me with conky plz?
[15:14] <Seveas> another_life, applicatoins -> internet -> remote desktop. Fill in the correct info and done
[15:14] <jrib> Jimbo: so the file /etc/init.d/ssh does not exist?
[15:14] <kingkong> mmmhhh  very strange...
[15:14] <ikonia> fizzle: truthfully, for that application I wouldn't bother
[15:14] <user1> GIn i wanted to check sleepsteping suport
[15:14] <ikonia> Pirate_Hunter: there are conky support forums and the user j_rock is the maintainer
[15:14] <|Debian|> bum
[15:14] <shekk> ./etc/init.d/ssh start
[15:14] <ikonia> |Debian|: ?
[15:14] <Seveas> Jimbo, please pastebin the output of this command: dpkg -l '*ssh*'
[15:14] <another_life> Seveas,  i dont have a remote desktop in applications
[15:14] <Pirate_Hunter> ikonia: all conky user are afk
[15:15] <fizzle> ikonia: then what would you suggest?
[15:15] <ikonia> Pirate_Hunter: hang around there then
[15:15] <Seveas> another_life, ah, it's called terminal server client...
[15:15] <ikonia> fizzle: for amazon mp3 player options ?
[15:15] <Seveas> it still can do vnc ;)
[15:15] <geirha> Jimbo: pastebin « dpkg -L openssh-server »
[15:15] <Pirate_Hunter> ikonia: :(
[15:15] <scottyL> Ok, here's a doozy
[15:15] <Jimbo> jrib: yes
[15:15] <cyberbrainmfkg> can i download program and all its deps in specific directory without installing it?
[15:15] <scottyL> Last night I tried to install Gutsy Server
[15:15] <scottyL> And it gut hung up on an error with the PC's wireless card
[15:15] <cxvxcv> hi
[15:15] <Seveas> cyberbrainmfkg, I beleive aptoncd can do that for you
[15:15] <scottyL> bcm43xx: Error: Microcode "bcm43xx_microcode5.fw" not available or load failed
[15:15] <fizzle> ikonia: i meant how would you go about getting the libraries if not using getlibs?
[15:16] <danand_> cyberbrainmfkg - yes wait one...
[15:16] <ikonia> fizzle: install them manually
[15:16] <scottyL> While I was trying to install the KDE on the server
[15:16] <ikonia> fizzle: just download the 32bit packages
[15:16] <ikonia> fizzle: libc etc etc
[15:16] <another_life> thanks :)
[15:16] <Seveas> scottyL, have you installed the firmware?
[15:16] <scottyL> It was suggested to me that I should try to install Desktop instead of server
[15:16] <shekk> server is cool
[15:16] <shekk> heh
[15:16] <Jimbo> Seveas: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/62934/
[15:16] <scottyL> Seveas: I had not; it was literally the third thing I had done after installing Gutsy
[15:17] <ozgur> hi
[15:17] <shekk> install build-essentials
[15:17] <scottyL> But, the point I'm getting at is whether or not I should try to install desktop instead
[15:17] <danand_> cyberbrainmfkg - sudo apt-get --print-uris --yes install package | grep ^\' |awk -F\' '{print $2}' > package_and_deps.txt
[15:17] <Seveas> Jimbo, something went wrong when you installed openssh-server. It's unconfigured and thus the initscript doesn't exist
[15:17] <Seveas> Jimbo, try this: sudo dpkg --configure -a
[15:17] <scottyL> I'm just looking to set up a home toy server to get acquainted with Apache and Linux and MySQL at the same time
[15:17] <ozgur> i have wireless network card problem with my ubuntu box
[15:17] <GIn> how do u get the version number of a software package using apt?
[15:18] <danand_> cyberbrainmfkg - that will give you a list you can download with wget or whatever...
[15:18] <ozgur> is there any one give me advice
[15:18] <shekk> -V
[15:18] <Seveas> GIn, dpkg -l packagename_here
[15:18] <Jimbo> Seveas: and then?
[15:18] <GIn> Seveas: it is not installed
[15:18] <Seveas> GIn, or apt-cache policy packagename_here
[15:18] <Seveas> GIn, the 2nd one works for packages that aren't installed :)
[15:18] <kingkong> ikonia i fixed it ;) i remove detect of ide hd so it can recognize only dvd ;)
[15:18] <Seveas> Jimbo, did it give any output?
[15:18] <cyberbrainmfkg> danand_, so i get list of urls of specific package and all it deps?
[15:18] <ikonia> kingkong: sounds broke to me
[15:19] <GIn> mhh, firefox 3 beta 5 still not in the repo :(
[15:19] <Jimbo> Seveas: yes
[15:19] <ikonia> GIn: so ?
[15:19] <Seveas> GIn, it is for hardy
[15:19] <kingkong> it is really strange... but important is resolve ;)
[15:19] <shekk> does firefox 3 beta do the text enlarge thingin linux
[15:19] <danand_> cyberbrainmfkg - yes :)
[15:19] <Seveas> Jimbo, put that output on the pastebin
[15:19]  * shekk console kiddie
[15:19] <GIn> ikonia: I want to use the latest beta version
[15:19] <Jimbo> Seveas: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/62935/
[15:20] <ozgur> i have a rtl8197 wireless network card on my toshiba satalite A215-S7437 notebook
[15:20] <ikonia> GIn: so use it then
[15:20] <Seveas> Jimbo, can you please pastebin the file /etc/apt/sources.list
[15:20] <ikonia> GIn: ubuntu are not going to put every beta version in a stable repo
[15:20] <GIn> ikonia: but it is not in the repo
[15:20] <kingkong> ikonia: do u know how can i make work touch screen on ubuntu ? i can just licl and double click but not move...
[15:20] <shekk> you have to compile it yourself
[15:20] <Seveas> !info firefox hardy | GIn
[15:20] <shekk> dont think the beta is in apt repos
[15:20] <Jimbo> Seveas: I didn't use apt-get for installing.
[15:20] <GIn> ikonia: firefox 3 should be an exception cause the beta is very stable and much faster than ff 2
[15:20] <ubotu> gin: firefox (source: firefox-3.0): meta package for the popular mozilla web browser. In component main, is optional. Version 3.0~b5+nobinonly-0ubuntu1 (hardy), package size 62 kB, installed size 120 kB
[15:21] <Jimbo> I installed the deb package
[15:21] <J-Unit> shekk, press ctrl and use scroll button on mouse
[15:21] <ikonia> GIn: no it shouldn't be an exception, it's a beta
[15:21] <ozgur> i install ubuntu neither gutsy nor hardy is achive connet to WPA-PSK network
[15:21] <Seveas> Jimbo, ah that explains. You installed a deb package that's meant for a different version of ubuntu
[15:21] <ikonia> Seveas: nice catch
[15:21] <GIn> or it should be in the backport repo at least
[15:21] <ikonia> GIn: no
[15:21] <Seveas> Jimbo, best to get rid of it: sudo dpkg --remove --purge openssh-server
[15:21] <shekk> J-Unit: why?
[15:21] <Seveas> then install it with apt-get to install the correct version
[15:21] <rinaldi_> hi, im trying to get my controller working. when I do jscal -c /dev/input/js1 i get "jscal: error getting correction: Bad address" jstest gives me http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/62923/
[15:21] <didy> lllllol
[15:21] <J-Unit> shekk, to enlarge text on firefox
[15:22] <J-Unit> shekk, or anything for that matter
[15:22] <user1>  which app gives me complete info about cput. like cpuz on windows does?
[15:22] <cyberbrainmfkg> danand_, i get empty package_and_dps.txt file
[15:22] <b4l74z4r> hmm, Terminal just crashed all of a sudden
[15:22] <Jimbo> Seveas: dpkg: conflicting actions -P (--purge) and -r (--remove)
[15:22] <user1> i wanted to check sleepsteping suport
[15:22] <ikonia> user1: cat /proc/cpuinfo
[15:22] <alj> hello..need some help with ubuntu 7.10
[15:22] <Jimbo> Seveas: which one to choose?
[15:22] <shekk> ohh, i dont even have X.. i just saw it did that firefox 3 enlarges images as well as text with text enlarge(in windows)
[15:22] <ikonia> alj: ask away
[15:22] <Seveas> Jimbo, --purge
[15:22] <Seveas> sorry :)
[15:22] <shekk> im on console
[15:22] <shekk> ssh'ing from a windows box right now actually
[15:22] <ikonia> shekk: we know you've told use 3 times now, console kiddie etc
[15:23] <ikonia> shekk: we get it - your uber l33t using the console
[15:23] <Jimbo> Seveas: Where do I get the deb package for my version of Ubuntu?
[15:23] <J-Unit> shekk, ctrl + scroll button works in windows and in linux and not only in firefox 3
[15:23] <user1> i wanted to check sleepsteping suport ikonia , thats not visible there
[15:23] <Seveas> Jimbo, you get it with apt-get
[15:23] <amenado> J-Unit-> press  the left side  ctrl+ +(on numpad)
[15:23] <GIn> user1: try lshw-gui
[15:23] <kingkong> ikonia: do u know how can i make work touch screen on ubuntu ? i can just licl and double click but not move...
[15:23] <alj> i got a live cd of 7.10...i boot it..but after the splash screen and loading drivers and stuff, the desktop does not load
[15:23] <Seveas> Jimbo, sudo apt-get install openssh-server
[15:23] <phoenixgnome> Hey guys I have a question about my audio
[15:23] <Jimbo> Seveas: Does it get it as Deb?
[15:23] <Seveas> Jimbo, yes
[15:23] <ikonia> kingkong: not a clue, I've only used touchscreen support - say 5 times
[15:23] <Jimbo> archive
[15:23] <jrib> Jimbo: what version is your version?
[15:23] <Jimbo> ok
[15:23] <shekk> ikonia: all i was tyring to ask is if text enlarge enlarges pictures too (in linux) because i wouldnt know, and he keeps telling me how to do text enlarge
[15:23] <Seveas> and it will then install the deb as well :)
[15:23] <Jimbo> jrib: 7.04
[15:23] <shekk> i know how to do it lol
[15:24] <J-Unit> amenado, no offense but my way of doing it is faster and more efficient (at least for me)
[15:24] <user1> GIn E: Couldn't find package lshw-gui
[15:24] <Seveas> Jimbo, generally, you should not download .deb packages manually. Using apt-get is the prefered way
[15:24] <Ehlyah> unop_: the colours match up, so
[15:24] <kingkong> 5 times
[15:24] <alj>  i got a live cd of 7.10...i boot it..but after the splash screen and loading drivers and stuff, the desktop does not load
[15:24] <ozgur> i lookup to ubuntuforums.org, googled but no solution for this
[15:24] <Jimbo> Seveas: I want ability install again later, without having to download, how do I ?
[15:24] <amenado> J-Unit-> sure, you are entitled to you own opinion
[15:24] <user1> !openwrt
[15:24] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about openwrt - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[15:24] <ikonia> alj: what video card do you have
[15:25] <user1> !*wrt
[15:25] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about wrt - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[15:25] <alj> ikonia : let me check...
[15:25] <Seveas> Jimbo, the file is downloaded to /var/cache/apt/archives -- store a copy in another place if you want to keep the file
[15:25] <J-Unit> amenado, i dint mean to be offensive if it came out that btw...
[15:25] <J-Unit> that way(
[15:25] <Jimbo> Seveas: OK, thanks
[15:25] <J-Unit> amenado, that way*
[15:25] <adilson> ok
[15:26] <unop_> Ehlyah, hmm, maybe you need to verify that the onboard NIC is enabled and verify that the NIC's LEDs light up on activity .. also, verify that no restrictions are in place on the router, MAC address/IP address filtering, etc
[15:26] <user1> GIn E: Couldn't find package lshw-gui
[15:26] <amenado> J-Unit its okay, i didnt get offended..we all have our favorites...
[15:26] <Ehlyah> unop_: when I put that arp -a command into cmd.exe, I got three things back, one's the gateway adress I've been getting, which is apparently dynamic, and then two other static things, maybe one of those is what I should be using?
[15:27] <saurabh> i updated 8.04 using package manager and now compiz won't start, no effects and the title bar is missing, please help
[15:27] <phoenixgnome> I got audio when I play mp3's but... I get nothing when I play music and videos from youtube
[15:27] <alj> ikonia : Its Via Chrome9 HC IGP
[15:27] <Makdaam> hi, do you know how to make all samples coming through alsa multiplied by 2 or boost the volume some other way?
[15:27] <Seveas> !hardy | saurabh
[15:27] <ubotu> saurabh: Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 24, 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - CONSIDER IT TO BE BETA SOFTWARE - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[15:27] <Ehlyah> unop_: as far as I know, there's no restrictions, but how do I verify? I'm more or less a total newb
[15:27] <unop_> Ehlyah, the other two are probably addresses of other computers on the network ..
[15:27] <kingkong> anyone know how make works fine touchscreen in ubuntu ? i can just click and double click but can't move... :/
[15:27] <BizMan2008> hey guys, i set up a new ubuntu machine, and i always setup vnc through ssh
[15:27] <BizMan2008> ive down this countless times
[15:27] <BizMan2008> but for whatever reason, on this machine
[15:28] <alj> ikonia : Its Via Chrome9 HC IGP
[15:28] <Seveas> !enter | BizMan2008 :p
[15:28] <ubotu> BizMan2008 :p: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[15:28] <BizMan2008> i can ssh, but not vnc afterwords
[15:28] <unop_> Ehlyah, it's hard to say, each router is different ..  but can you ping anything using the wired interface on windows?   ping google.com  perhaps?
[15:28] <Ehlyah> unop_: no, that's not it. One of the adresses is in the same range, but the other one is just way off
[15:28] <BizMan2008> it says connection initiated, and ends there
[15:28] <ikonia> alj: thats unusual
[15:28] <C0il> hi
[15:28] <BizMan2008> any ideas?
[15:28] <GIn> user1: just cat /proc/cpuinfo and google for your cpu model and see the cpu specification :\
[15:28] <ikonia> alj: you've got a choice to try to debug the livecd, or you could try the alternative cd
[15:28] <Ehlyah> unop_: that's just it, I'm having a hard time setting up the wired connection on windows, too
[15:28] <unop_> Ehlyah, what are the three IP addresses there?
[15:28] <cyberbrainmfkg> Seveas, aptoncd only saves files from /var/cache/apt/archives/!is there some tool that will download program and it deps no matter if i have it already installed or not???
[15:28] <fdgdf> hi
[15:28] <ikonia> alj: most of these issues are normally ati video card related
[15:28] <fdgdf> ds
[15:28] <Seveas> cyberbrainmfkg, hmm, no idea really
[15:28] <amenado> BizMan2008-> try  the -X or -Y options to ssh and then  gnome-session &
[15:29] <scottyL> Question: I want to set up a toy server to play with LAMP, so I downloaded Gutsy Server. I had a problem with downloading something for the wireless card, so the installation of KDE hung on that last step. Someone here suggested I use Gutsy Desktop instead... will Desktop satisfy my needs?
[15:29] <unop_> !offline | cyberbrainmfkg  (maybe this?)
[15:29] <ubotu> cyberbrainmfkg  (maybe this?): If you need to download Ubuntu packages using another machine or OS, check the desired packages in Synaptic and select File > Generate package download script. Alternatively, try http://apt.byethost14.com/
[15:29] <ikonia> scottyL: use the desktop version
[15:29] <Ehlyah> unop_: <IP_ADDRESS> (the gateway), <IP_ADDRESS>, <IP_ADDRESS>
[15:29] <alj> so is there anything i can do to get the live cd to work ?....i want to install it after booting it
[15:29] <BizMan2008> amenado: what are the -x or -y options? Ive never had to use them for my other machines?
[15:29] <Makdaam> BizMan2008: what do you mean ssh and then vnc? do you tunnel ports through ssh or just make a separate connection?
[15:29] <ikonia> scottyL: the desktop version works fine as a server and is more appropriate for home desktop hardware (like wirless cards)
[15:29] <C0il> Basic question: i am trying to install apache2 on my server but the package is not found ... i can only see 142 packages,.. what should i do in order to see apache2 packages ?
[15:29] <amenado> BizMan2008-> case matters.. -X    please man  ssh   for further explanations
[15:29] <Seveas> scottyL, you'll still need to download the firmware. Plug in a wired connection for now
[15:29] <danand_> cyberbrainmfkg - run the command without the direction to file to see what output if any you get. If not just try apt-get -s install packagename (this will simulate an install) to see if apt can find the package you are after
[15:30] <scottyL> ikonia: Awesome, thanks
[15:30] <ikonia> alj: try safe graphics mode from the cd boot menu
[15:30] <unop_> Ehlyah, that looks ok, except 1.255 .. thats a broadcast address and shouldnt have an entry in arp
[15:30] <scottyL> Seveas: I was downloading it and connected to a wire. The installation hung on the one part for hours
[15:30] <scottyL> Seveas: With the following error
[15:30] <Makdaam> C0il: check /etc/apt/sources.list file
[15:30] <cvd-pr> How can i change the user name?
[15:30] <Seveas> scottyL, that's strange...
[15:30] <scottyL> bcm43xx: Error: Microcode "bcm43xx_microcode5.fw" not available or load failed
[15:30] <alj> ikonia : thanks..i will try that now
[15:30] <Ehlyah> unop_: I don't know how it got there either, unless through ubuntu, since that's what I filled in there as broadcast
[15:31] <Seveas> scottyL, install the b43-fwcutter package and use it to install the firmware
[15:31] <scottyL> Seveas: Yeah, it was a little annoying. But, that was when I was trying to install KDE... I had heard some bad things about knome >.<
[15:31] <phoenixgnome> I got audio when I play mp3's but... I get nothing when I play music and videos from youtube... anyone have any Idea what might I be doing wrong?
[15:31] <xcvx> hi
[15:31] <scottyL> Or, GNOME
[15:31] <xcvx> xao
[15:31] <BizMan2008> amenado: i stop the ssh service, then i do what?
[15:31] <Seveas> scottyL, there are lots of bad things to say about gnome
[15:31] <Seveas> scottyL, there are lots of bad things to say about kde as well
[15:31] <Ehlyah> unop_: maybe I should just go back to trying to set up a wireless connection for ubuntu. sure, it wasn't working either, but the wired thing would just be a temporary solution anyway
[15:31] <Seveas> scottyL, you should try both and stick to the one you like :)
[15:31] <unop_> Ehlyah, i wouldnt worry about it too much .. it's probably harmless .. the funny thing is you get an IP address from the router but you can't ping it, so it's working but connectivity is hampered
[15:32] <amenado> BizMan2008-> i didnt ask you to stop the ssh service, I merely suggested to use the extra option  -X when you are trying to ssh in to a remote host to allow for X
[15:32] <scottyL> Seveas: haha, ok. I'll try out GNOME for a while... especially if it lets me install Desktop with LAMP and have no problems
[15:32] <scottyL> Seveas: I will be able to implement LAMP on Gutsy Desktop, right?
[15:32] <Seveas> scottyL, yes. On both kubuntu gutsy desktop and ubuntu gutsy desktop :)
[15:32] <amenado> scottyL-> i will be the 3rd person to say yes..
[15:32] <scottyL> Seveas: Awesome, thanks :)
[15:33] <leewalid> hey
[15:33] <netd> hi
[15:33] <leewalid> Hey there, wanna talk??
[15:33] <leewalid> cam here
[15:33] <leewalid> cam2cam
[15:33] <netd> does anyone know any tool with which you can check the firmware version of your harddrive?
[15:33] <StPatrick> lmao
[15:33] <Seveas> leewalid, wrong channel. This is a support channel
[15:33] <Ehlyah> unop_: I think I'll boot back into ubuntu, try to get the wireless working again
[15:34] <BizMan2008> amenado: i ssh with putty
[15:34] <freepenguin> hello
[15:34] <Makdaam> netd you can try smartctl, but I'm not sure if it shows the version
[15:34] <netd> Makdaam: I'll look into it, thanks
[15:34] <ozgur> :)
[15:34] <kingkong> anyone know how make works fine touchscreen in ubuntu ? i can just click and double click but can't move... :/
[15:35] <amenado> BizMan2008-> okay, there is an option to use X on putty
[15:35] <dmsuperman_> i ran sudo apt-get install phpmyadmin, and it's been install, but i have no clue where it installed to. it also seemed to modify my apache config, because i can go to localhost/phpmyadmin and it works. anybody know A: where it installed and B: where it added the config options?
[15:35] <Seveas> kingkong, tried searching the forums? Might give you a quicker anser since nobody in here seems to be able to help you
[15:35] <kingkong> :) i tryed :(
[15:35] <BizMan2008> ok i will try
[15:35] <didy> anyone knows any other alternative for gparted that is fast????
[15:36] <kingkong> and i followed some istruction...but no success
[15:36] <ikonia> dmsuperman_ it's not an application, it's a website
[15:36] <user1> what hardware support can i get by a guest os in vbox. linux as host.  usb pci port. com port. 3d accelaration , direct x support for games. etc.?
[15:36] <ozgur> i have a rtl8187 wireless card on but it does not work?
[15:36] <ikonia> didy: gparted is the most supported tool for ubuntu
[15:36] <ikonia> user1: no direct video card
[15:36] <cableroy> hi, when i use nautilus and search for files, and i find them, i mark 'em and want to cut but i'm not allowed, but when i don't search but find the file i can cut it, how come?
[15:36] <Makdaam> dmsuperman: you can check it in synaptic/any other package manager
[15:36] <dmsuperman_> ikonia: it's not a website, it's a web-app. it runs under apache, yes, but it's also an application. the source has to be somewhere, and it's not in my www folder
[15:36] <amenado> ozgur-> which ubuntu version?
[15:37] <user1> ikonia iam talking about direct x support?
[15:37] <dmsuperman_> Makdaam: I'm ssh'ing remotely, is there a way to do that with commandline?
[15:37] <BizMan2008> amenado: enable x11 fowarding?
[15:37] <BizMan2008> that what it is
[15:37] <Makdaam> dmsuperman: just check properties of an installed package... it usually has something like "installed files"
[15:37] <ozgur> is there anybody to help me about wireless networking
[15:37] <ikonia> dmsuperman_: it is a simple website, look in your apache config for the site-enabled and where the root for phpyadmin is
[15:37] <Makdaam> dmsuperman: there's aptitude, however I don't use it daily
[15:37] <amenado> BizMan2008-> yes
[15:37] <user1> ikonia and what about other things
[15:37] <Makdaam> dmsuperman: so I can't really tell you how to check the installed files... it has a nice menu interface though
[15:37] <user1> ?
[15:37] <ikonia> user1: probably won't get any support
[15:37] <dmsuperman_> ikonia: I did, it didn't say anything. i don't completely get the grep syntax, how might i search through my entire /etc/apache2 folder for "phpmyadmin" ?
[15:38] <ozgur> BizMan2008 will you help me
[15:38] <ozgur> ?
[15:38] <ikonia> dmsuperman_: go into the sites-enabled directoy and see what sites you have
[15:38] <dmsuperman_> ikonia: it's only got 000-default in there, and it's not in that
[15:38] <amenado> ozgur-> which ubuntu version?  <== you paying attention?
[15:38] <BizMan2008> amenado: and the x display location?
[15:38] <BizMan2008> ozgur: whats your issue?
[15:38] <ozgur> 8.04 hardy
[15:38] <KrimZon> is anyone here using Wubi in XP?
[15:39] <ikonia> dmsuperman_: where is the docroot for 00-default
[15:39] <amenado> ozgur-> please visit #ubuntu+1 channel
[15:39] <ozgur> before it i had 7.10
[15:39] <dmsuperman_> ikonia: /media/sdb2/www, and no phpmyadmin isn't in it
[15:39] <BizMan2008> amenado: is that just 0?
[15:39] <ikonia> dmsuperman_: you may also want to check the config file for a redirect
[15:39] <BizMan2008> for diplsyay 0
[15:39] <ozgur> thanks but with my ubuntu 7.10 i have the same problem
[15:40] <dmsuperman_> ikonia: i haven't found any. if i could just grep the entire /etc/apache2 folder for "phpmyadmin" i could probably find it, but i'm not sure the syntax for greping all the contents of all the files in a folder
[15:40] <ikonia> dmsuperman_: grep -r
[15:40] <Seveas> smash__, did you install phpmyadmin with apt-get?
[15:40] <amenado> BizMan2008-> this a problem, you are using windows apps, i cant remember all the options available on putty, you have to do some research via google
[15:40] <Seveas> dmsuperman_*
[15:41] <user1> what hardware support can i get by a guest os in vbox. linux as host.  usb pci port. com port. 3d accelaration , direct x support for games. etc.?                 or does any other virutalisation app gives more options  for that?             any suggestions?
[15:41] <Makdaam> BizMan2008: if you connect with ssh -X<EMAIL_ADDRESS>and launch any graphincal application the GUI should appear on your local station by default
[15:41] <Seveas> (sorry smash__, bad typo)
[15:41] <amenado> Makdaam-> he is using windows,  putty..
[15:41] <ikonia> user1: you won't get any sort of 3d/directx support
[15:41] <dmsuperman_> Seveas: aye
[15:41] <BizMan2008> yes windows to linux
[15:41] <dmsuperman_> Seveas: do you know where it installs to?
[15:41] <Makdaam> amenado: oh my :/ cygwin + X server sounds like an overkill
[15:41] <BizMan2008> ive done this countless times, but for whatever reason, it isnt working on this machine
[15:41] <user1> ikonia no where. in vbox  vmware . xen or qemu ??????????
[15:41] <ikonia> user1: pretty much not
[15:42] <Seveas> dmsuperman_, dpkg -L phpmyadmin -- that'll show you where the files live. It also installs a file in /etc/apache/conf (oslt) that makes /phpmyadmin an alias in the apache config to /usr/share/phpmyadmin
[15:42] <user1> ikonia they are all same.
[15:42] <ikonia> user1: they are not the same
[15:42] <user1> ?
[15:42] <amenado> BizMan2008-> i dont use windows anymore, so its a bit difficult for me to tell you the options, i already suggested to use google, okay?
[15:42] <ikonia> user1: they are different products
[15:42] <Makdaam> amenado: a socks proxy or a remote port redirect?
[15:42] <BizMan2008> dont you think i tried that already
[15:42] <BizMan2008> that why im here
[15:43] <dmsuperman_> Seveas: thanks :D
[15:43] <Dr_Link> heh, somewhat funny (if not cheesy) Ubuntu joke "Sudo...ku"
[15:43] <Seveas> Dr_Link, sudo make me a sandwich
[15:43] <amenado> BizMan2008-> nope, i dont think you have tried it, or have not look hard enuff
[15:43] <mmm4m51> :)
[15:43] <user1> ikonia but they give same hardware support?
[15:43] <Makdaam> amenado: gotta go now, but the command line parameters for ssh were -D and -R afair
[15:43] <Makdaam> bye everyone
[15:43] <Dr_Link> syntax error, use sudo --? for more information.
[15:43] <ikonia> user1: you won't get any advanced hardware support from any of them
[15:43] <didy> i've now a 50GB unallocated. so should i partition / /home /swap using gparted or go straight to install ubuntu????
[15:43] <amenado> BizMan2008-> we can help you of what is going on , on the ubuntu side, but windows applications, we may or may not know all the options
[15:43] <ikonia> didy: your call
[15:44] <Seveas> didy, straight to install -- if you want, you can make partitions using the ubuntu installer
[15:44] <ikonia> BizMan2008: what do you want to do exactly ?
[15:44] <BizMan2008> i understand that
[15:44] <didy> ok on the partition stage.. it gives me 4 options.. which one shld i choose?
[15:44] <BizMan2008> i use ssh tunneling and vnc to get into my linux machine
[15:44] <user1> ikonia ok. but comparitively. which is better in relation to my question
[15:44] <ikonia> didy: which option do you want ?
[15:44] <ikonia> user1: none really
[15:44] <cyberbrainmfkg> Seveas, apt frequently delete files in /var/cache/apt/archives...is there a way to save all your downloads permanently???
[15:44] <ikonia> BizMan2008: ok,
[15:45] <amenado> BizMan2008-> also include the info that you are using putty as the client..
[15:45] <Seveas> cyberbrainmfkg, disable the cronjob that deletes those files or regularly copy them to a safe place
[15:45] <user1> ikonia  not really ?
[15:45] <ikonia> user1: no
[15:45] <hischild> cyberbrainmfkg, apt-proxy?
[15:45] <ikonia> BizMan2008: so what is the problem
[15:45] <BizMan2008> ok so when i vnc in, usually its set up as <IP_ADDRESS>:port
[15:46] <cableroy> hi, when i use nautilus and search for files, and i find them, i mark 'em and want to cut but i'm not allowed, but when i don't search but find the file i can cut it, how come?
[15:46] <BizMan2008> and it lets me in
[15:46] <mnereson> there an apt-get for mod jk apache tomcat connecter ??
[15:46] <user1> ikonia ok.
[15:46] <BizMan2008> i just get to a connection initialized
[15:46] <BizMan2008> and thats it
[15:46] <user1> ikonia all give a bout same features in terms of my question?
[15:46] <BizMan2008> i know its on the linux end because i have no probelm on my other linux machines
[15:46] <user1> ikonia thanks
[15:46] <ikonia> user1: yes, they will all work the same
[15:46] <Seveas> !info libapache2-mod-jk | mnereson
[15:46] <ubotu> mnereson: libapache2-mod-jk (source: libapache-mod-jk): Apache 2 connector for the Tomcat Java servlet engine. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:1.2.23-3 (gutsy), package size 120 kB, installed size 392 kB
[15:46] <ikonia> BizMan2008: sounds like your tunnel is not setup properly
[15:47] <Seveas> BizMan2008, ssh -X -L5900:localhost:5900 remote_machine_here --- then do vncviewer localhost
[15:48] <ikonia> Seveas: he's on putty
[15:48] <J-Unit> can sum1 give me a link of a conexant hsf 64-bit modem driver thats a .deb! (apparently it came out as non-deb but I need it as deb cuz i cant compile and compiling without live help on internet would be rely difficult for me)
[15:48] <ikonia> Seveas: no local xserver
[15:48] <BizMan2008> yeah im actually at work trying ot troubleshoot this lol
[15:48] <Seveas> ikonia, ah
[15:48] <BizMan2008> thers not much to how i set up ssh, just generated a rsa key, changed the port
[15:48] <BizMan2008> thats really it
[15:48] <BizMan2008> like i always do
[15:48] <BizMan2008> then the rest is in putty
[15:48] <FloodBot1> BizMan2008: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:48] <Seveas> BizMan2008, in the putty config, tell it to forward the local port 5900 to the remote port 5900. Then you can make your vnc client connect to localhost
[15:49] <BizMan2008> and i ahve that on my usb key, and putty is set to L50000, <IP_ADDRESS>:5900
[15:49] <BizMan2008> like i walays have, so i dont have to keep port 5900 open on my firewall
[15:49] <Seveas> BizMan2008, ok, and connecting to port 50000 locally doesn't work?
[15:49] <capo> ciao
[15:50] <Seveas> BizMan2008, are you sure the vnc server is started? try this: netstat -ltnp
[15:50] <Seveas> that must show something listening on port 5900
[15:50] <Seveas> if not, vnc server hasn't started :)
[15:50] <BizMan2008> tcp        0      0 <IP_ADDRESS>:5900            <IP_ADDRESS>:*               LISTEN      6936/x11vnc
[15:51] <BizMan2008> looks right?
[15:51] <Seveas> yeah
[15:51] <legah> running ubuntu8beta, just updated kernel etc trough update and lost my vga setting in menu.lst - want to run at 1280x1024 so I looked around and added vga=795 to kernel line in menu.lst but that doesn't work.. why?
[15:51] <Seveas> try this in the telnet session: nc localhost 5900
[15:51] <J-Unit> #math
[15:51] <Seveas> what does that give?
[15:51] <BizMan2008> nothing
[15:52] <virgintiger> oulq rqpide l intefqce
[15:52] <BizMan2008> does it take a while?
[15:52] <Seveas> BizMan2008, it gives you the prompt again?
[15:52] <sdfs> hi
[15:52] <BizMan2008> no
[15:52] <sdfs> ds
[15:52] <BizMan2008> just nothing
[15:52] <Seveas> virgintiger, try english -- we might understand that better
[15:52] <virgintiger> k
[15:52] <BizMan2008> i can type, but its not my name@computername
[15:52] <virgintiger> sorry bad server
[15:52] <StPatrick> Does anyone in here have Eve-Onlin working in Ubuntu 7.1?
[15:52] <Seveas> BizMan2008, k, that means it's accepting connections :)
[15:53] <Seveas> BizMan2008, windows firewall getting in the way?
[15:53] <TerrorismSux> should i download the x86 or 64 bit ?
[15:53] <TerrorismSux> i have 64 bit pc, but will that cause problems with sound/video/wlan and games?
[15:53] <Jaymac> StPatrick: just a sidenote - it's 7.10 ;) the 10 represents month of release, so the 0 is important :)
[15:53] <amenado> Bizman try the :0 for location ..I found one putty tutorial, so hopefully you can too.  http://the.earth.li/~sgtatham/putty/0.58/htmldoc/Chapter3.html
[15:53] <Jaymac> StPatrick: have you looked on the wine appdb?
[15:53] <Seveas> TerrorismSux, flash won't work. Same for w32codecs (wmv/wma)
[15:54] <StPatrick> Jaymac,  someone told me the exact opposite recently, lol.. They yelled at me for typing 0 every time.
[15:54] <StarCont> q all
[15:54] <spiderfire> TerrorismSux: maybe there needs to be some kind of survey about it
[15:54] <BizMan2008> Seveas: ill check, but i doubt it yesterday morning, on my old image i was fine, and then last night when i redid everything probelms!
[15:54] <StPatrick> Jaymac,  Yes, I tried installing it with Wine, didnt work, gave me an error, I have also tried installing wt with the .deb they provide for Ubuntu, which does work, and installs, but then gives me video trouble.
[15:54] <Jaymac> StPatrick: well, they're in the wrong
[15:55] <Jaymac> StPatrick: what is the video issue? compiz running? ATI/nvidia graphics?
[15:55] <StPatrick> Jaymac, intel onboard graphics
[15:55] <LjL> uhm, if i selected "keep installed version" when presented by APT with a choice whether to update a configuration file or not... how could i go back to look what the proposed new config file would have looked like, and possibly reverse my decision? how do i even find out which package was requesting the change, if dpkg -S doesn't list the file?
[15:55] <StPatrick> Jaymac, but i know the hardware is capable of running the game, because it does work in windows
[15:56] <another_life> i did a mistake with groups and i removed my user from the admin group... meaning i couldnt use sudo command at all... i fixed it but now i cannot access the volume control and i see only a couple of choices in  system-administration :( what can i do /
[15:56] <BizMan2008> brb
[15:56] <Seveas> LjL, the new file will be there with a .dpkg-new extension. If you had selected the overwrite option, the old file would be there with a .dpkg-old extension
[15:56] <StPatrick> Jaymac,  so im a little frustrated in trying to understand what'[s going wrong.
[15:56] <TerrorismSux> so x86 is stable
[15:56] <TerrorismSux> and 64 has bugs
[15:56] <TerrorismSux> ill stick with 86
[15:56] <TerrorismSux> :D
[15:56] <Jaymac> StPatrick: well what is the error message?
[15:56] <dmsuperman_> how can i switch between "tabs" in irssi?
[15:57] <StPatrick> Jaymac,  One sec, ill run it again
[15:57] <Seveas> dmsuperman_, alt+number or /win number
[15:57] <napsy_> dmsuperman_: using alt + numer
[15:57] <rausb0> dmsuperman_: alt-NUM or esc-NUM
[15:57] <philphoto> another_life: can you log in as root?
[15:57] <another_life> yes
[15:57] <dmsuperman_> heh, of COURSE everybody in #ubuntu uses irssi :P
[15:57] <LjL> Seveas: except that it isn't... might be a a bit of an oddball. it's /boot/grub/menu.lst, i was surprised to see an APT request to update it, to begin with...
[15:57] <Seveas> TerrorismSux, x86_64 is just as stable. Some closed source things are simply not available for it
[15:58] <philphoto> another_life: you should be able to set user permissions when logged in as root.
[15:58] <Seveas> LjL, it didn't request to update /boot/grub/menu.lst -- there's a trick going on there
[15:58] <another_life> philphoto,  how do i do that ?
[15:58] <StPatrick> Jaymac,  Unable to elevate, Error 2
[15:58] <BizMan2008> Seveas: i mean it knows that there is a connection, because anything else i type, no good, right away it will tell me i cant connect
[15:58] <BizMan2008> any other ideas?
[15:58] <LjL> Seveas: following up in the right channel then ;)
[15:59] <Jaymac> StPatrick: you're running it in Wine?
[15:59] <philphoto> another_life: isn't there a "users" applet in the control tab?
[15:59] <StPatrick> Jaymac,  mhm
[15:59] <rausb0> BizMan2008: maybe some firewall rules on the linux machine, blocking traffic from/to lo interface
[15:59] <Jaymac> StPatrick: what?
[15:59] <StPatrick> Jaymac,  yes mmhmmm
[15:59] <dmsuperman_> !#ubuntu
[15:59] <ubotu> Ubuntu is a complete Linux-based operating system, freely available with both community and professional support. It is developed by a large community and we invite you to participate too! - Also see http://www.ubuntu.com
[16:00] <dmsuperman_> !ot
[16:00] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[16:00] <Jaymac> StPatrick: try setting your system to Win98 in winecfg
[16:00] <another_life> philphoto,  where is control tab ?
[16:00] <StPatrick> Jaymac, ok.
[16:00] <Jaymac> StPatrick: alternatively try: sudo apt-get install winbind
[16:00] <Jaymac> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=544907
[16:00] <philphoto> another_life: should be under system
[16:00] <StPatrick> Jaymac, trying 98 now
[16:00] <philphoto> another _life: are you using gnome?
[16:01] <StPatrick> Jaymac,  Hey.. nice
[16:01] <another_life> yes
[16:01] <Jaymac> StPatrick: works?
[16:01] <StPatrick> Jaymac,  that did it
[16:01] <another_life> i dont see it though
[16:01] <Jaymac> StPatrick: great :) working ok then?
[16:01] <StPatrick> Jaymac,  ok, ill install it and see if this works and better :)
[16:01] <dmsuperman_> !twinview
[16:01] <ubotu> xinerama is an extension to !X to use two or more physical displays as one large virtual display. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XineramaHowTo - See also !DualHead
[16:01] <dmsuperman_> !X
[16:01] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type « sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart » in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[16:02] <philphoto> another_life: somewhere in the system control menu is an app which will allow you to set all permissions for users and groups
[16:02] <dmsuperman_> alright, i'm sure you guys don't want to see 100 ubotu info requests, what's the command to open private chat with him? i'm used to gui irc clients ;)
[16:03] <rausb0> dmsuperman_: /query ubotu
[16:03] <dmsuperman_> thanks :D
[16:03] <didy> i've 30gb unallocated partition now.. when i go installation, and choose "Guided use the largest contagious free space" it says i cannot create anymore primary partitions!
[16:03] <b4l74z4r> if you wish to use more than one commandline switch, does each one have to be preceded by a dash?
[16:04] <Seveas> b4l74z4r, depends
[16:04] <didy> does ubuntu only install on logical partition???
[16:04] <daning> I am using ubuntu 8.04 beta. my wireless connection does not work well.  Is it a known problem?
[16:04] <philphoto> didy: do you have another linux install on that hdd?
[16:04] <mok0_> didy: you need to create an extended partitions when more than 4
[16:04] <Jaymac> daning: see #ubuntu+1 for Hardy support
[16:04] <StPatrick> Jaymac,  lmao Now that it's installed correctly it told me windows 2000 or higher required.
[16:04] <StPatrick> Jaymac,  I guess switch it back over and try?
[16:05] <Jaymac> StPatrick: might be worth a try
[16:05] <daning> Jaymac: thx
[16:05] <didy> i've vista on primary, data on primary, xp on logical partition
[16:05] <TerrorismSux> i cant WAIT to get divorced
[16:05] <huggybeers> http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#userregistration
[16:06] <TerrorismSux> wife is sooo emo
[16:06] <Seveas> TerrorismSux, offtopic talk elsewhere
[16:06] <dmsuperman_> !ot | TerrorismSux
[16:06] <ubotu> TerrorismSux: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[16:06] <b4l74z4r> is there a command to see the corrrect syntax for a given command?
[16:06] <StPatrick> Jaymac,  Getting a new error now
[16:06] <mok0_> bl4ckh3r0: man?
[16:07] <platyhelminth> ./glest #glest
[16:07] <TerrorismSux> Seveas and dmsuperman must be related to my wife
[16:07] <Seveas> b4l74z4r, most commands accept --help as argument. YOu can use the manpage as well
[16:07] <TerrorismSux> emo tacos n e 1?
[16:07] <dmsuperman_> heh
[16:08] <dmsuperman_> Seveas: why is it in this channel that people only get op status when they perform actions then lose it? most other channels i see they're just perm-op
[16:08] <Jaymac> StPatrick: what is it?
[16:08] <Seveas> dmsuperman_, there are several reasons
[16:08] <StPatrick> Jaymac,  ok, now it claims to be opening, doesnt give an error, but nothing ever happens
[16:08] <StPatrick> Jaymac,  the same has hapened for another application I installed with wine
[16:09] <didy> im using manual partitioning now on installation, have 30gb unallocated space. i tried to create new partitions for "/" "/swap" "/home" right? when i create 10gb and mount to /home... after it says remaining disk unsable
[16:09] <dmsuperman_> Seveas: such as? pardon the questions, i'm just a curios guy =P
[16:09] <BizMan2008> rausb0: how do i check that
[16:09] <BizMan2008> the firewall rules
[16:09] <rausb0> BizMan2008: sudo ipatbles -L -nv
[16:10] <Jaymac> StPatrick: are you trying to open it through a terminal?
[16:10] <StPatrick> Jaymac,  no
[16:10] <Jaymac> StPatrick: with the command: wine /path/to/.exe
[16:10] <StPatrick> Jaymac, no, should i be?
[16:10] <Jaymac> StPatrick: do that, and pastebin the results
[16:10] <StPatrick> Jaymac,  ok
[16:10] <Jaymac> StPatrick: well, it might give you a clue as to what's going wrong
[16:10] <didy> im using manual partitioning now on installation, have 30gb unallocated space. i tried to create new partitions for "/" "/swap" "/home" right? when i create 10gb and mount to /home... after it says remaining disk unsable
[16:11] <StPatrick> Jaymac,  workin on it
[16:11] <BizMan2008>  pkts bytes target     prot opt in     out     source               destination
[16:11] <BizMan2008> Chain FORWARD (policy ACCEPT 0 packets, 0 bytes)
[16:11] <BizMan2008>  pkts bytes target     prot opt in     out     source               destination
[16:11] <BizMan2008> Chain OUTPUT (policy ACCEPT 21908 packets, 79M bytes)
[16:11] <FloodBot1> BizMan2008: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:11] <BizMan2008>  pkts bytes target     prot opt in     out     source               destination
[16:11] <BizMan2008> sorry about the flooding
[16:12] <StPatrick> Jaymac,  I have no idea how to find an exe that's installed in Wine
[16:12] <BizMan2008> rauseb0: see anything there?
[16:12] <rausb0> BizMan2008: put that on a paste service please
[16:12] <HanzZ> hi... i'm trying to configure etc/network/interfaces to ask dhcp server which I want (according to MAC address)... I can connect with dhcp -s MAC, but i want to connect automatically
[16:12] <HanzZ> how can I do it? :)
[16:13] <HanzZ> *dhclient3 -s MAC
[16:13] <BizMan2008> rausb0: http://pastebin.com/m73c1f0ea
[16:13] <Jaymac> StPatrick: it will be in .wine/drive_c/Program\ Files/
[16:13] <rausb0> BizMan2008: the input chain is missing
[16:13] <unop__> HanzZ, add a postup directive there that includes that command .. see, man interfaces
[16:14] <BizMan2008> rausb0: my bad http://pastebin.com/m16bfc3e
[16:15] <StPatrick> Jaymac,  This is frustrating the living hell out of m.
[16:15] <Jaymac> StPatrick: you haven't found it?
[16:15] <StPatrick> Jaymac,  not even close
[16:15] <rausb0> BizMan2008: okay, no blocking rules and the policies are set to accept
[16:15] <Odd-rationale> Hello. I'm trying to mount a nfs folder to the mount point /mnt. it seems to mount fine (no errormessages) but when I cd /mnt I get "permission denied." What is the problem?
[16:16] <prem> how can i use p2p sharing ubuntu
[16:16] <Jaymac> StPatrick: ok, open up a terminal... type cd .wine/
[16:16] <prem> in ubuntu
[16:16] <didy> btw does installing on windows partition (WUbi) any different from installing on real partition? reduced functionality or what??
[16:16] <LjL> !p2p | prem
[16:16] <Jaymac> then ls to list all the directories, you want to go to drive_c then Program Files etc...
[16:16] <ubotu> prem: Peer-to-peer filesharing clients are available for several networks/protocols, including !BitTorrent, !Gnutella, !eDonkey, !DirectConnect, !SoulSeek - Multi-protocol engines include !MLDonkey and !giFT - See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/P2PFileSharing for general information
[16:16] <StPatrick> Jaymac,  the .deb installation installs and runs the game, just with video issues, wouldn;t it me simpler to address that?
[16:16] <BizMan2008> rausb0: i dont know why i cant get through
[16:17] <rausb0> BizMan2008: and you started x11vnc when you were working locally on the linux box?
[16:17] <BizMan2008> like i said it connects, per say, as it says connection initialized, but tahts as far as it gets
[16:17] <BizMan2008> yes
[16:17] <BizMan2008> its running
[16:17] <rausb0> BizMan2008: so x11vnc is connected to the display the X server running on the linux box is using
[16:17] <BizMan2008> yes
[16:17] <BizMan2008> display 0
[16:18] <Jaymac> StPatrick: go for it.  You might not have powerful enough graphics drivers available... can you run compiz in 3d for example?
[16:18] <StPatrick> Jaymac,  sure can
[16:18] <rausb0> BizMan2008: and you should get the existing desktop when connecting to x11vnc, not a separate one like in Xvnc
[16:18] <BizMan2008> correct
[16:18] <BizMan2008> same session
[16:18] <StPatrick> Jaymac,  it looks like it's just not gonna work.
[16:19] <StPatrick> Jaymac,  Lets try windows though...
[16:19] <StPatrick> Jaymac,  so im in .wine/ now
[16:19] <rausb0> BizMan2008: hmm. running out of ideas.
[16:19] <StPatrick> Jaymac,  I cant seem to browse to my Program Files directory
[16:19] <Jaymac> StPatrick: type cd Progra and then hit tab to complete it
[16:19] <BizMan2008> like i said it mnakes no sense, ive rebooted, uninstalled, reinistalled
[16:19] <BizMan2008> nothing
[16:19] <sluimers> hello! I have a new monitor for my computer and Ubuntu seems to have problems with that as in I can no longer get in gnome.. I'm in the terminal looking at xorg.conf, any suggestions?
[16:19] <Jaymac> StPatrick: it is because of the space, you need to escape it with a backslash (\)
[16:19] <BizMan2008> tried a different vnc client
[16:19] <prem> how can i change root account password
[16:19] <StPatrick> Jaymac,  Hey.. that's handy!
[16:20] <jrib> !root | prem
[16:20] <ubotu> prem: Do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth... there is no root password. Then you will see that it is 'sudo' that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[16:20] <Jaymac> StPatrick: cd Program\ Files/ would work
[16:20] <Siph0n> I am trying to remove mysql server, but I keep getting this error "E: mysql-server-5.0: subprocess pre-removal script returned error exit status 1" ... I tried googling it, but all i can find is that maybe mysql is still running, but i dont see it under ps -A
[16:20] <Siph0n> any ideas?
[16:20] <rausb0> BizMan2008: which options did you use when starting x11vnc?
[16:20] <StPatrick> Jaymac,  Ok, so being in the directory with the eve, just type wine eve.exe?
[16:20] <level09> guys, is there a way to reduce memory usage by ubuntu ?
[16:20] <BizMan2008> rausb0: the one for the password, rfauth or someting to that nature
[16:20] <BizMan2008> and the forever option
[16:20] <BizMan2008> thats it
[16:21] <jrib> Siph0n: see what the removal script is trying to do ( /var/lib/dpkg/info/mysql*)
[16:21] <Jaymac> StPatrick: yes.
[16:21] <rausb0> BizMan2008: no -shared? maybe there already is someone connected?
[16:21] <BizMan2008> rausb0: but ive tried it with no options, no password nothing, and still same issue
[16:21] <BizMan2008> rausb0: if there was, then it would want to use a different port, like 5901
[16:21] <BizMan2008> no?
[16:21] <Siph0n> jrgp_, sorry, found it in ps -A
[16:21] <rausb0> BizMan2008: no, would be the same port
[16:22]  * Nith now has E17 running with ubuntu
[16:22] <Siph0n> jrib, sorry found it in ps -A , and killed it, than removed it :)
[16:22] <BizMan2008> rausb0: yea, but no one can be connected, like i said i restarted and tried it again
[16:22] <Nith> does anyone know how to change what file manager it uses?
[16:22] <jrib> Siph0n: k
[16:22] <StPatrick> Jaymac, http://pastebin.ca/982414
[16:23] <rausb0> BizMan2008: do you start x11vnc manually or through same xsession script?
[16:23] <D3RGPS31> How would someone go about editing the "Open With" list in ubuntu 7.10?
[16:23] <BizMan2008> i created the script
[16:23] <geek_inn> hi
[16:23] <BizMan2008> but i also have tried mannualy
[16:24] <geek_inn> problems with screenresolution in ubuntu
[16:24] <geek_inn> i use lg monitor
[16:24] <rausb0> BizMan2008: and the script is run when logging in via gdm or kdm?
[16:24] <matt444> what is the command to allow my user "matthew" to read all files in a directory, including files that doesn't exist yet?  I do this chmod +r matthew /directory  doesn't work though
[16:24] <jrib> D3RGPS31: right click -> properties -> open with
[16:24] <geek_inn> when i try at 800*600
[16:24] <Jaymac> StPatrick: you're on 64bit ubuntu?
[16:24] <prem> what is local alias in pidgin messenger
[16:24] <BizMan2008> yes
[16:24] <BizMan2008> well
[16:24] <BizMan2008> when i tell it to run
[16:25] <geek_inn> i see a black screen in right side of monitor
[16:25] <prem> what does local alias refer to
[16:25] <BizMan2008> i just double click on my icon
[16:25] <rausb0> BizMan2008: i mean after login or before?
[16:25] <geek_inn> 32bit
[16:25] <prem> "local alias"
[16:25] <jos_> hello i doint have sound in flash in youre tube wat to do?
[16:25] <StPatrick> Jaymac,  im not sure... my system is 32 bit.
[16:25] <geek_inn> gutsy
[16:25] <D3RGPS31> Jrib: i want to remove somethings from the Open With rightclick menu, and the Open With menu
[16:25] <jos_>  flash in youre tube broke?
[16:25] <jrib> prem: say your friends nick is jrib.  You can alias that to Jason so that you see it as "Jason" on your list
[16:25] <HanzZ> unop__: thanks, post-up works
[16:25] <Jaymac> StPatrick: ok
[16:26] <BizMan2008> after
[16:26] <geek_inn> also i want 2 know about mark shuttle
[16:26] <jrib> D3RGPS31: so did you try what I said?
[16:26] <rausb0> BizMan2008: okay
[16:26] <geek_inn> will he ever visit brainstorm
[16:26] <geek_inn> ubuntu braistorm
[16:26] <jos_> flash in youre tube broke?  what i gen do is it a bug?
[16:26] <jos_> no sound
[16:27] <D3RGPS31> Jrib: O, now I see it xD thank you
[16:27] <rausb0> BizMan2008: next thing would be stracing the x11vnc process during a connect
[16:27] <inspired12> is anyone familiar with the booting prolbem that leads to initramfs
[16:27] <geek_inn> anybdy ?
[16:27] <BizMan2008> rausb0: how od i do that?
[16:27] <inspired12> busy box
[16:27] <geek_inn> hear me????????
[16:27] <rausb0> BizMan2008: but you would have to interpret the output of strace
[16:27] <matt444> what is the command to allow my user "matthew" to read all files in a directory, including files that doesn't exist yet?  I do this chmod +r matthew /directory  doesn't work though
[16:27] <jrib> geek_inn: ask your question on a single line please
[16:28] <jrib> matt444: what directory?
[16:28] <rausb0> BizMan2008: strace -p $(pidof x11vnc)
[16:28] <Seveas> geek_inn, mark does visit ubuntu brainstorm, yes.
[16:28] <matt444> jrib directory/
[16:28] <geek_inn> great,.
[16:28] <StPatrick> Jaymac,  I gotta afk for a bit. lemme know if you think of anything, or discover anything
[16:28] <inspired12> i did an install with wubi, and it was working fine until it stopped booting correctly, and instead it goes to this busy box thing, logged in as initramfs
[16:28] <lesshaste> when I click on http://webcast.berkeley.edu/stream.php?type=real&webcastid=21475 totem says it can't play it
[16:28] <lesshaste> can anyone else play it?
[16:28] <cast> matt444: i often chown -R user dir/ to get the same effect
[16:28] <BizMan2008> rausb0: and what is that oging ot do?
[16:28] <LjL> matt444, any file on UNIX has permissions for: its owner, its group, and everyone else. you can't tell chmod that "matthew" specifically has some different permissions.
[16:29] <geek_inn> i have lg700e monitor crt,cant try 800*600 resolution on intel board,which is easy in xp
[16:29] <matt444> cast: don't want my user to chown the directory.
[16:29] <Seveas> LjL, with acl's one can actually ;)
[16:29] <rausb0> BizMan2008: writing out all the system calls x11vnc is doing
[16:29] <LjL> Seveas: UNIX.
[16:29] <matt444> LjL:  ok, then i want whatever group matthew belongs to to have read permissions for all files in this directory, current and future
[16:29] <BizMan2008> damnit too bad im not home
[16:29] <inspired12> ne1 familiar with the initramfs?
[16:29] <BizMan2008> i cant do this through ssh huh?
[16:29] <geek_inn> also,Ubuntu brainstorm-blog will ever mark shuttleworth be visiting this?
[16:29] <Seveas> LjL, not sure if acl's are part of susv3 but I thought they're in there
[16:30] <prem> is there any chating package for ubuntu like yahoo mesenger
[16:30] <LjL> matt444: what is the current group the directory belongs to? should it be changed?
[16:30] <cast> matt444: then either make the dir and contents either world readable or readable by the group, and make sure matthew is in that group
[16:30] <rausb0> BizMan2008: why not?
[16:30] <prem> public chating software
[16:30] <matt444> LjL:  pretty sure a process owns the group.  I DO NOT want to change ownership
[16:30] <jrib> prem: pidgin.  It's in your Internet menu
[16:30] <LjL> Seveas: UNIX, as Charles Babbage intended it.
[16:30] <inspired12> IRC works pretty well
[16:30] <matt444> LjL:  owns the directory i mean
[16:30] <inspired12> lol
[16:30] <Seveas> jaja
[16:30] <prem> pidgin is a messenger
[16:30] <LjL> matt444: processes don't own directories
[16:30] <matt444> cast:  HOW!
[16:30] <BizMan2008> rausb0: how do i found out the pid
[16:31] <inspired12> so no takers for the initramfs problem?
[16:31] <prem> can pidgin be used for chating
[16:31] <matt444> LjL:  then sudo owns it or whoever.  The point is, I don't want to own it, just to read it
[16:31] <inspired12> things were going so well
[16:31] <BizMan2008> prem: yes
[16:31] <rausb0> BizMan2008: i already gave you the syntax
[16:31] <inspired12> prem: yea
[16:31] <BizMan2008> prem: has all the IM clients u want
[16:31] <LjL> matt444: look, perhaps if you explain which directory that is and why you need to read it, a decent solution can be worked out
[16:31] <rausb0> BizMan2008: $(pidof x11vnc) will be replaced by the pid of x11vnc
[16:31] <BizMan2008> no i know
[16:31] <geek_inn> ok none answered my question,any ideas when are shipit dates be arriving
[16:32] <BizMan2008> i was wondering how u find it through the ocmmand prompt
[16:32] <matt444> LjL:  fine.  the directory is /var/log/postgresql .  I need to read it because it contains log messages that are important to me.
[16:32] <BizMan2008> the pid
[16:32] <BizMan2008> pid
[16:32] <rausb0> BizMan2008: pidof x11vnc
[16:32] <jrib> !fixres > geek_inn (read the private message from ubotu)
[16:32] <BizMan2008> rausb0: no go
[16:32] <rausb0> BizMan2008: then it is not running
[16:32] <LjL> matt444: on my system, it's owned by user root and group root, is it the same on yours? (ls -l -d /var/log/postgresql)
[16:32] <jhperlow> greetings... is there a wubi channel?
[16:33] <BizMan2008> no
[16:33] <BizMan2008> command not found
[16:33] <rausb0> BizMan2008: pidof is not found?
[16:33] <BizMan2008> oh got it
[16:33] <Seveas> jhperlow, tried #wubi?
[16:33] <BizMan2008> needed to have a psace
[16:33] <Gibb> whats the command to do a ipconfig /renew in ubuntu?
[16:33] <matt444> LjL:  drwxrwxr-t 2 root postgres 4096 2008-04-12 11:22 /var/log/postgresql
[16:33] <LjL> jhperlow: #wubi, but not sure it's active
[16:33] <jhperlow> nobody on it
[16:33] <geek_inn> anybody notice my posts>
[16:33] <jhperlow> not even a bot
[16:33] <Seveas> Gibb, dhclient eth0 (replace eth0 with the interface you want)
[16:33] <rausb0> BizMan2008: pswhat?
[16:33] <LjL> matt444: then i'd probably make yourself a member of the postgres group (short of using root privileges to look at the log contents... which is what i'd *actually* do myself)
[16:33] <jhperlow> hrrm, I'm experiencing wubi issues and just want to find the right place
[16:34] <symtab> is there a ubuntu multimedia repository?
[16:34] <LjL> !codecs > symtab    (symtab, see the private message from Ubotu)
[16:34] <BizMan2008> space
[16:34] <LjL> !medibuntu > symtab    (symtab, see the private message from Ubotu)
[16:34] <Gibb> Seveas, thank you
[16:34] <jhperlow> seems the latest apt-get update/upgrade blew up my wubi heron
[16:34] <rausb0> BizMan2008: ah okay
[16:34] <jhperlow> goes right to initramfs
[16:34] <BizMan2008> rausb0: ok i ran it
[16:34] <symtab> thanks
[16:34] <geek_inn> i think staying here is waste
[16:34] <BizMan2008> but it just keeps going and going
[16:35] <rausb0> BizMan2008: like i said, you have to interpret the output
[16:35] <ultimate-> can i install ubuntu while i boot the iso in windows?
[16:35] <BizMan2008> rausb0: lol, no clue
[16:35] <matt444> LjL:  how do i make myself a member of the postgres grou
[16:35] <LjL> ultimate-: "boot the iso in windows"?
[16:35] <BizMan2008> resoure tempoararly unavailble
[16:35] <BizMan2008> is what i see alot
[16:35] <hti_pro> hey anyone know if there is a dhcp channel
[16:35] <LjL> matt444: sudo adduser $USER postgres
[16:35] <ultimate-> ljl : i mean from inside of windows xp
[16:36] <LjL> ultimate-: eh... how do you boot an iso from inside of windows xp? that makes no sense to me...
[16:36] <ultimate-> boot the iso = using demon tools or something
[16:36] <LjL> ultimate-: then *mount* the iso?
[16:36] <jhperlow> utilmate: you can do that with virtualization
[16:36] <ultimate-> daemon*
[16:36] <rausb0> BizMan2008: try connecting and look if something changes
[16:36] <hti_pro> use vmware
[16:36] <ultimate-> LjL : yes my bad mount :)
[16:36] <BizMan2008> rausb0: http://pastebin.com/m7da81b19
[16:36] <rausb0> BizMan2008: you can terminate strace by pressing ctrl-c
[16:36] <BizMan2008> thats what i have now
[16:36] <LjL> ultimate-: and you're asking what? if you can install Ubuntu while in windows?
[16:36] <BizMan2008> ill try that now
[16:36] <ultimate-> ljl : yes
[16:36] <hti_pro> ultimate-: alcohol 120 soes great with isos
[16:36] <dmsuperman_> how can i save a file locally over ssh?
[16:36] <jhperlow> ultimate: download vmware server for windows
[16:36] <jhperlow> its free
[16:37] <dmsuperman_> jhperlow: hardly. free if you pirate it.
[16:37] <cast> dmsuperman_: you could xfer it using sftp or scp
[16:37] <jhperlow> cast:
[16:37] <LjL> ultimate-: you can't do that. you can using Wubi, which will be included in the next version of Ubuntu; however, if you do it like that, it won't be a "standard" Ubuntu installation running from its own HD partition. the HD partition will be simulated using a file in Windows
[16:37] <jhperlow> vmware server is free
[16:37] <rausb0> BizMan2008: looks like it tries to read from a dead connection
[16:37] <jhperlow> ESX server is not
[16:37] <hti_pro> anyone know of a channel that i can get dhcp support
[16:37] <dmsuperman_> jhperlow: for windows you can get Virtual PC and it's completely free. and it's decent
[16:38] <jhperlow> you can also get virtualbox
[16:38] <jhperlow> for windows
[16:38] <rausb0> BizMan2008: and the new connect is not visible at all
[16:38] <jhperlow> thats also free
[16:38] <BizMan2008> rausb0: no difference
[16:38] <LjL> !windows
[16:38] <ubotu> For discussion and help with Microsoft Windows, please visit ##windows. See http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm and /msg ubotu equivalents
[16:38] <ultimate-> thanks ljl does that means it would be like a unbutu player like its own vmware type?
[16:38] <LjL> ultimate-: no
[16:38] <dmsuperman_> virtualbox is on windows?
[16:38] <ultimate-> okay
[16:38] <rausb0> BizMan2008: did you test if this x11vnc is working at all, without going through a ssh tunnel?
[16:38] <jhperlow> I think they have one, yeah.
[16:38] <dmsuperman_> !microsoft
[16:38] <LjL> ultimate-: it runs Ubuntu natively (by starting it instead of Windows in some what that i don't really know)
[16:38] <ubotu> For discussion and help with Microsoft Windows, please visit ##windows. See http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm and /msg ubotu equivalents
[16:38] <jhperlow> they have one for everything
[16:38] <hti_pro> anyone want to talk about something besides windows
[16:38] <BizMan2008> BizMan2008: no
[16:38] <BizMan2008> rausb0: no
[16:38] <danand_> dmsuperman_ - scp? scp user@ip.add.re.ss:dir/to/file.ext file.ext
[16:39] <ultimate-> ljl : ill wait for new version thanks a lot
[16:39] <jhperlow> well, I definitely need to talk about windows, my wubi is toast
[16:39] <jhperlow> lol
[16:39] <LjL> ultimate-: the only thing similar to virtual machines is that, instead of working on a real partition, Ubuntu will use a file from the Windows filesystem as its "hard drive"
[16:39] <BizMan2008> i would have to open port 5900 then no?
[16:39] <dmsuperman_> danand_: I'm SSH'ing to my home pc right now, from windows
[16:39] <ultimate-> LjL : got it
[16:39] <hti_pro> this isn't a windows channel though
[16:39] <bya> #ubuntu-fr
[16:39] <hti_pro> dmsuperman_: im sorry for your horrible situation
[16:39] <jochmenDS> hmm nice toast
[16:39] <LjL> i suggest trying #ubuntu+1 for Wubi help (if #wubi doesn't help), as it will be included in the next version of Ubuntu
[16:39] <dmsuperman_> hti_pro: why do you say that?
[16:40] <rausb0> BizMan2008: yes. but i wouldn't do that over internet since vnc is not encrypted.
[16:40] <theunixgeek> I uninstalled and reinstalled Wine in Ubuntu and now the Wine menu is missing. How do I get it back?
[16:40] <hti_pro> dmsuperman_: using windows is always a horrible situation
[16:40] <ultimate-> nice
[16:40] <danand_> dmsuperman_ - ah...
[16:40] <ultimate-> 12 more days it says on the website
[16:40] <dmsuperman_> hti_pro: oh, i don't care. that's why i'm SSH'ing. I'm at school, in class
[16:40] <dmsuperman_> hti_pro: In fact, this IRC client is irssi over ssh from home haha
[16:40] <hti_pro> dmsuperman_: i understand
[16:41] <hti_pro> anyone good with dhcp
[16:41] <BizMan2008> yeahrausb0:  but even locally to get it to work
[16:41] <LjL> theunixgeek: uhm, i can't say i know, but perhaps try wine /usr/lib/wine/winemenubuilder.exe.so
[16:41] <BizMan2008> odnt i need it to unblock the port
[16:41] <dmsuperman_> hti_pro: like, what specifically?
[16:42] <hti_pro> like, my client does a DHCP discover, it is offered a valid ip in the proper subnet of <IP_ADDRESS>, but instead it uses an ip in the subnet <IP_ADDRESS>
[16:42] <inspired12> anyone have the busy box initramfs experience?
[16:42] <inspired12> I get dumped to this busybox thing on boot
[16:42] <TerrorismSux> taco-salad
[16:42] <hti_pro> worked just fine till i booted the other day and now this,  all other machines recieve dhcp offer just fine,
[16:42] <TerrorismSux> ok ive downgraded to 7x
[16:42] <inspired12> initramfs is the prompt
[16:43] <dmsuperman_> hti_pro: Too much for me to help heh
[16:43] <rausb0> BizMan2008: locally? no
[16:43] <inspired12> but im not sure why its not loading
[16:43] <dmsuperman_> hti_pro: why even DHCP though?
[16:43] <TerrorismSux> finally my restricted drivers work just fine now
[16:43] <matt444> LjL:  i ran that statement.  it gave me read permissions for EXISTING files.  new files create since then are not readable by me
[16:43] <rausb0> BizMan2008: you have seen it is not blocked by any iptables rules
[16:43] <hti_pro> it is easier to make ip changes in one location than accross 14 machines
[16:43] <hti_pro> i use static ip but it is set with dhcp
[16:43] <Gibb> how do I make ubuntu hax0r proof? Im afraid of getting a rootkit
[16:43] <SimplySeth> is there a command line option to instal a previous kernel ?
[16:43] <TerrorismSux> one problem after fresh install... update manager doesnt show any updates
[16:44] <gort42> Gibb: unplug it from the net
[16:44] <hti_pro> where can i get dhcp help, doesnt seem to be a #dhcp channel
[16:44] <Odd-rationale> Terr
[16:44] <dmsuperman_> hti_pro: aaah, the dhcp sets the ip statically based on the machine/mac/whatever
[16:44] <theunixgeek> LjL: thanks
[16:44] <BizMan2008> well i did try this yesterday even though this may be dumb
[16:44] <BizMan2008> i didnt have any other machine next to me
[16:44] <Gibb> gort42, hehe
[16:44] <hti_pro> dmsuperman_: right
[16:44] <TerrorismSux> odd
[16:44] <khaotik> does anyone know of a good link i could use to learn more useful terminal commands??
[16:44] <BizMan2008> so i tried to vnc into the same machine lol
[16:44] <BizMan2008> but it didnt work
[16:44] <dmsuperman_> hti_pro: http://netsplit.de search for a #dhcp channel, you usually get good results
[16:44] <LjL> matt444: uhm, do files in that directory all have postgres as group? (ls -l /var/log/postgresql)
[16:44] <Odd-rationale> TerrorismSux: did you update your repos? "sudo apt-get update"?
[16:44] <BizMan2008> using xtightvncviewer
[16:44] <Randocal> I've got a friend with a brand new Ubuntu install, he's running into some stability issue however. It seems that his system is locking up on him, first his mouse stops responding, and generally his keyboard stops shortly aftewards. At that point we aren't sure if the whole PC is freezing, or if he's just losing USB functionality. I have him logged in from his laptop via an SSH session at the moment, and am not sure which log file is be
[16:44] <Randocal> st to "tail -f" in an effort to see what's happening right as the crashing occurs. Would I be best off tailing somehitn glike dmesg, or something like syslog?
[16:44] <matt444> LjL: yes, all of them
[16:45] <hti_pro> dmsuperman_: i did a google search and nothing
[16:45] <rausb0> BizMan2008: vnc'ing to x11vnc running on the very same machine causes nice effects :)
[16:45] <TerrorismSux> yes i did Odd-rationale
[16:45] <BizMan2008> rausb0: i know, but i coudlnt even get those effects to work
[16:45] <theunixgeek> LjL: sorry for the late response, but thanks :)
[16:45] <Odd-rationale> TerrorismSux: then after that did you do "sudo apt-get upgrade"?
[16:45] <khaotik> does anyone know of a good link i could use to learn more useful terminal commands??
[16:45] <LjL> matt444: and what do their permissions look like?
[16:45] <TerrorismSux> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[16:45] <level09> how do I reduce the memory used by ubuntu ? I only want to run a LAMP server
[16:45] <dmsuperman_> hti_pro: how about specifically searching for whichever OS you use to DHCP?
[16:45] <rausb0> BizMan2008: then x11vnc didn't run properly. which ubuntu version?
[16:45] <hti_pro> dmsuperman_: nothing for dhcp on that site either, maybe general networking
[16:46] <LjL> level09: you could avoid using a graphical interface
[16:46] <LjL> !server > level09    (level09, see the private message from Ubotu)
[16:46] <gort42> Gibb: go here lots of info https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Security
[16:46] <LjL> !lamp > level09    (level09, see the private message from Ubotu)
[16:46] <hti_pro> dmsuperman_: I am already here
[16:46] <D3RGPS31> How do I change permissions over files and folders from root to a user through terminal?
[16:46] <BizMan2008> 8.04
[16:46] <dmsuperman_> hti_pro: ubuntu runs your dhcp server?
[16:46] <BizMan2008> but thats what i was running it on b4
[16:46] <Gibb> thx gort42
[16:46] <BizMan2008> no problems
[16:46] <SimplySeth> khaotik: http://www.pixelbeat.org/cmdline.html
[16:46] <matt444> LjL:  here's one of the files i can't read -rw-r----- 1 postgres postgres     62 2008-04-12 11:40 postgresql-2008-04-12_114057.log
[16:46] <rausb0> BizMan2008: 8.04 is not supported here and not released
[16:46] <TerrorismSux> isnt it sudo passwd name group ?
[16:46] <LjL> !permissions > D3RGPS31    (D3RGPS31, see the private message from Ubotu)
[16:46] <BizMan2008> did i say 8.04
[16:46] <hti_pro> dmsuperman_: no serer is pure debian, but client is ubuntu gutsy.  seems to be a problem with the client
[16:46] <BizMan2008> i meant 7.10
[16:46] <BizMan2008> lol
[16:46] <level09> LjL:I'm not using any graphical interface
[16:46] <Odd-rationale> TerrorismSux: maybe your system is already uptodate?
[16:46] <unop_> D3RGPS31, given a particular folder -  sudo chown -R $USER:$USER /path/to/folder
[16:46] <LjL> D3RGPS31: but don't do that unless you really know what you're doing... not with files that aren't in your /home, at least
[16:47] <TerrorismSux> perhaps, off a fresh 7.10 install
[16:47] <level09> LjL: i'm using a server edition of ubuntu gutsy
[16:47] <rausb0> BizMan2008: i still have 7.04 so i cannot test if x11vnc has problems in 7.10
[16:47] <gort42> Gibb: u bet....all it takes is the appropriate search on the forums to answer the majority of questions levied here
[16:47] <dmsuperman_> hti_pro: ah. then i dunno, wait for somebody more knowledgeable is my suggestion then :S
[16:47] <D3RGPS31> thank you guys xD
[16:47] <BizMan2008> is there another alterntive to x11vnc
[16:47] <hti_pro> dmsuperman_: thanks
[16:47] <Odd-rationale> TerrorismSux: can you pastebin your /etc/apt/source.lst file?
[16:47] <LjL> matt444: try typing « group postgrep » and then reading the files (type « group $USER » when you're finished)
[16:47] <rausb0> BizMan2008: not for exporting the existing desktop
[16:47] <BizMan2008> that displays 0
[16:47] <s2k-patrik> hello all :0)
[16:48] <Gibb> gort42, how do I see a list of current outgoing tcp/udp connections? is there a tcpview for linux like in windows?
[16:48] <TerrorismSux> lol sure (blank)
[16:48] <gort42> Gibb: try tcpdump
[16:48] <rausb0> BizMan2008: of course there is a alternative for working remote: using only textmode apps and using screen in the ssh session
[16:48] <LjL> level09: then i don't know how you'd reduce memory used very much... note that much of the "taken" memory is usually just cache, that the kernel will immediately free up when needed
[16:48] <TerrorismSux> the /etc/apt/source.lst file is empty
[16:48] <level09> LjL: is there any commands for clearing up cache Manually ?
[16:48] <LjL> level09: if you type "free", look at the cached amount and subtract it from the used memory, to get the "real" amount of memory in use
[16:48] <Odd-rationale> TerrorismSux: ah. that is the problem..
[16:48] <unop_> hti_pro, is this a problem with just one specific machine?
[16:48] <BizMan2008> haha
[16:48] <BizMan2008> yeah
[16:49] <gort42> Gibb: or if you want a gui based packet sniffer look at wireshark
[16:49] <LjL> level09: none are needed. when program request memory, the kernel will provide it.
[16:49] <kongove> hello
[16:49] <TerrorismSux> i crapped the bed? or is it a bug
[16:49] <BizMan2008> but its nice to browse the web from work, unfiltered, and no sites being blocked
[16:49] <dmsuperman_> TerrorismSux: populate it :D or try using the gui app, under system -> administration -> software sources
[16:49] <Odd-rationale> Hey guys, where is that site to generate one's sources.lst?
[16:49] <level09> okay thanks
[16:49] <LjL> Odd-rationale: it's gone
[16:49] <amenado> SimplySeth-> you use the old kernel in /boot to boot from it
[16:49] <TerrorismSux> rgr that dms
[16:49] <Odd-rationale> LjL: :(
[16:49] <LjL> !sources | Odd-rationale
[16:49] <ubotu> Odd-rationale: The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecommendedSources for the recommended way to set up your repositories
[16:49] <unop_> Gibb, there's also iptraf - which might be better than tcpdump if you want something interactive
[16:49] <Gibb> unop_, ok cool
[16:49] <rausb0> BizMan2008: that's what i do when i work remote. i don't have enough bandwidth for vnc or remote x11 anyway.
[16:49] <inspired12> !initramfs
[16:49] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about initramfs - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[16:50] <TerrorismSux> dmsuperman: rgr it looks like when 7.10 couldnt use my wifi drivers to access the net, the sources from internet were disabled
[16:50] <inspired12> me neither ubotu, me neither
[16:50] <TerrorismSux> the world is good now
[16:50] <Odd-rationale> TerrorismSux: try this: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecommendedSources
[16:50] <Odd-rationale> LjL: thanks
[16:50] <LjL> Odd-rationale: personally, i'd still tend to look at a sources.list manually to make sure it makes sense...
[16:51] <Odd-rationale> LjL: true. I'll take a look at it when he tries the gui method first...
[16:51] <hti_pro> unop: yes, just one machine
[16:51] <TerrorismSux> thanks odd
[16:52] <sluimers> hello! I have a new monitor for my computer and Ubuntu seems to have problems with that as in I can no longer get in gnome.. I'm in the terminal looking at xorg.conf, any suggestions?
[16:52] <Randocal> I've got a friend with a brand new Ubuntu install, he's running into some stability issue however. It seems that his system is locking up on him, first his mouse stops responding, and generally his keyboard stops shortly aftewards. At that point we aren't sure if the whole PC is freezing, or if he's just losing USB functionality. I have him logged in from his laptop via an SSH session at the moment, and am not sure which log file is be
[16:52] <Randocal> st to "tail -f" in an effort to see what's happening right as the crashing occurs. Would I be best off tailing somehitn glike dmesg, or something like syslog?
[16:52] <TerrorismSux> sweet time to let it patch, time to watch some tv
[16:53] <amenado> Randocal-> which version of ubuntu?
[16:53] <Randocal> Sorry, i shoulda stated that, 7.10 gutsy
[16:53] <kongove> hello，everyone.
[16:53] <Randocal> I am tailing /var/log/dmesg at the moment trying to wait for a crash, will we likely see any useful info appear in dmesg?
[16:54] <amenado> Randocal-> also look into top and see if the  cpu usage is maxing out
[16:54] <pere_> Hello! I need help! I have just instaled ubuntu studio, and there is not network icon from the taskbar what canI do?
[16:54] <fation_linuX> hello everybody
[16:55] <kongove> Maybe you have no drice of network card
[16:55] <BizMan2008> well i guess thats it
[16:55] <fation_linuX> got problem with usb device d-link dwl-g122
[16:55] <BizMan2008> i give up
[16:55] <Otacon22> how can i change Alsa default device?
[16:55] <amenado> Bizman try the :0 for location ..I found one putty tutorial, so hopefully you can too.  http://the.earth.li/~sgtatham/putty/0.58/htmldoc/Chapter3.html
[16:56] <rausb0> BizMan2008: sorry i couldn't help
[16:56] <obione> hi
[16:56] <obione> need help here
[16:56] <Randocal> His mouse and keyboard have both stopped responding (both are using USB) but his SSH session is still alive
[16:56] <BizMan2008> its ok
[16:56] <BizMan2008> at least you kept trying
[16:56] <BizMan2008> and i appreciate it
[16:56] <sluimers> Randocal, I had a similair problem two weeks ago, did you put in a new USB extension cord? That happened to be my cause
[16:57] <obione> my pendrive stop reconizing after connecting it to a wln machine :(
[16:57] <Randocal> No, neither device is using an extension at all, they are both USB plugged directly into the motherboard with no extenders
[16:57]  * fation_linuX ka shqiptar ketu?
[16:57] <dmsuperman_> !english fation_linuX
[16:57] <fation_linuX> sorry
[16:57] <IndyGunFreak> lol
[16:57] <Odd-rationale> TerrorismSux: let me know if you have any success../.
[16:57] <fation_linuX> ;)
[16:57] <dmsuperman_> no problem, though wtf happened to ubotu
[16:57] <obione> .
[16:57] <obione> .
[16:57] <obione> my pendrive stop reconizing after connecting it to a wln machine :(
[16:57] <FloodBot1> obione: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:57] <kongove> It is time to go to bad,bye
[16:57] <obione> .
[16:58] <dmsuperman_> !english
[16:58] <ubotu> The #ubuntu, #kubuntu and #xubuntu channels are English only. For a complete list of channels in other languages, please visit http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat
[16:58] <IndyGunFreak> !english | dmsuperman you just don't know how to use me
[16:58] <ubotu> dmsuperman you just don't know how to use me: please see above
[16:58] <dmsuperman_> odd
[16:58] <BizMan2008> rausb0: think i can install another vnc server through ssh, and try it
[16:58] <dmsuperman_> oh yeah forgot pipe :P
[16:58] <Odd-rationale> dmsuperman_: yes?
[16:58] <xteven> Perhaps I do not understand SSH correctly but is there a way I can connect to a server, execute a lengthy command, disconnect and then periodically re-connect to check it's progress?
[16:58] <fation_linuX> can someone help me 4 the usb d-link dwl-g122?
[16:58] <lesshaste> can anyone play http://www.aftenposten.no/webtv/?id=9511&cat=22 ?
[16:58] <rausb0> xteven: use screen for that
[16:58] <prem> what is the software to send sms message from pc to mobile phone
[16:58] <amenado> xteven-> yes
[16:59] <prem> in ubuntu
[16:59] <xteven> rausb0, thanks
[16:59] <sluimers> hello! I have a new monitor/lcdtv for my computer and Ubuntu seems to have problems with that as in I can no longer get into gnome.. I'm in the terminal looking at xorg.conf, any suggestions?
[16:59] <IndyGunFreak> fation_linuX: is that a wireless device?
[16:59] <xteven> amenado, thanks
[16:59] <fation_linuX> yes
[16:59] <prem> software package to sms in ubuntu
[16:59] <dmsuperman_> Odd-rationale: haha, i was just saying the word "odd"
[16:59] <IndyGunFreak> fation_linuX: what chipset is it?
[16:59] <BizMan2008> rausb0: what you think
[16:59] <rausb0> xteven: when logged in via ssh, start a screen session and then run your command. the detach from screen by pressing ctrl-a d and log out. later log in again and run screen -r (reattach)
[16:59] <fation_linuX>  ID 07d1:3c03 D-Link System
[16:59] <amenado> prem-> look in to chikka    chikka.com
[16:59] <rausb0> BizMan2008: maybe it's worth a try
[17:00] <BizMan2008> whats a good one to try
[17:00] <BizMan2008> server wise
[17:00] <rausb0> BizMan2008: tightvncserver (don't know the exacty package name)
[17:00] <IndyGunFreak> fation_linuX: make sure the device is plugged in, open a terminal and type "lsusb".. no quotes, and see how it identifies the devie(most likely, either Atheros, Broadcom or Ralink)
[17:00] <dmsuperman_> !xforward
[17:00] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xforward - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[17:00] <dmsuperman_> !forwarding x
[17:00] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about forwarding x - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[17:00] <tovare> hi, is there a 7.10 package for glk ? I need it to compile glulx (interactive fiction).
[17:00] <fation_linuX> just d-link system
[17:00] <fation_linuX> it's plugged
[17:00] <rausb0> BizMan2008: but i really don't do much vnc so i cannot tell which one is best
[17:00] <LollinopiL> how can I disable the CPU's alarm ? ? ? ? everytime I close an open office document without saving it i heard that sound !!! can anyone help me ?
[17:00] <fation_linuX> it's function as well
[17:01] <BizMan2008> ok thanks
[17:01] <aNOOBisa> hi has anyone ever gotton darkice to work with icecast2?
[17:01] <fation_linuX> but disconnected some times
[17:01] <fation_linuX> don't know why
[17:01] <dmsuperman_> !xforwarding
[17:01] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xforwarding - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[17:01] <fation_linuX> every hour
[17:01] <dmsuperman_> i hate you ubotu.
[17:01] <IndyGunFreak> !msgthebot | dmsuperman
[17:01] <ubotu> dmsuperman: Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (type also /msg ubotu Bot). Don't use commands in the public channels if you don't know if they really exist. Also avoid adding joke/useless factoids.
[17:01] <amenado> !enter | fation_linuX
[17:01] <ubotu> fation_linuX: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[17:01] <aNOOBisa> I am not getting any sound on the other side and I don't have any idea why
[17:01] <sluimers> !samsung
[17:01] <ardeny> hello
[17:01] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about samsung - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[17:01] <xteven> rausb0, one more thing. When I connect over SSH... the server is do absolutely all the computations correct? For example, if I were to tell the server to move a couple gigs of info my remote terminal is not doing any of the moving
[17:01] <dmsuperman_> anybody know a good guide to forwarding x?
[17:02] <francesco> Hello, guys. I need some information. I have to buy a DVD burner. Do I have some limitation in compatibility with Ubuntu?
[17:02] <francesco> Thank you.
[17:02] <dmsuperman_> xteven: of course
[17:02] <dmsuperman_> xteven: that's a lot of the reason for using remote connections
[17:02] <xteven> dmsuperman, thats what I thought but for some reason my terminal becomes very slow
[17:02] <unop> xteven, errm, any commands you do on the server apply to the server not anywhere else .. it doesn't make sense if things are done elsewhere
[17:02] <Randocal> What log files would be best to peek into regarding loss of use on a USB mouse and keyboard? I'm new enough to Ubuntu that I'm not sure where to loo for this.... SSH to the machine form a putty window is still up and running so the machine isn't freezing, just something is making the keyboard/mouse die on us
[17:02] <IndyGunFreak> francesco: i wouldn't think so, if you get a normal, IDE DVD burner, it should work fine.. I use Lite-ON, cuz they're cheap and fairly reliable, and have always worked for me
[17:02] <dmsuperman_> xteven: it becomes slow because the remote is slow, so it's not able to refresh data as much
[17:03] <dmsuperman_> xteven: the SSH server becomes less responsive, so you see the effects :)
[17:03] <francesco> IndyGunFreak: What about an ATA driver?
[17:03] <xteven> dmsuperman, mmm.. slow as in how? It's a pretty new T60
[17:03] <g[r]eek> Hi guys I've installed gutsy - during install the DHCP phase didn't detect connection. After install I've tried both static, dhcp and roaming but none are working. What's funny though is that another PC (this one) is working just fine, also gutsy, going through the same hub
[17:03] <g[r]eek> Any idea what it could be?
[17:03] <unop> Randocal, have you verified that USB support is enabled in the BIOS ?
[17:03] <dmsuperman_> xteven: That's i'm not sure, it really depends on the commands you're running and the hardware
[17:03] <IndyGunFreak> you *shouldn't* need one.. the Kernel has tons of IDE/ATA drivers and *should* recognize it out of the box.
[17:03] <xteven> dmsuperman, ok ok I'll believe it ;-) thanks lol
[17:04] <danand_> Randocal - /var/log/kern.log /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[17:04] <fation_linuX> any idea?
[17:04] <dmsuperman_> xteven: but if you're transferring data, depending on the hard drive interface that could be the cause of slowness.
[17:04] <celticbhoy> Might sound daft, but new to this on Linux, On windows I used mIRC to access extreme-moviez on the rizon server(I think) how do I import my channel list from mIRC to XChat ???
[17:04] <rausb0> xteven: the terminal display still has to be sent over the network connection to you, but once you detach from the screen session, it will speed up
[17:04] <|Debian|> g[r]eek: ifconfig ?
[17:04] <amenado> g[r]eek-> the install would still complete even if the network does not get a route to the archive, you just have to update post install
[17:04] <desti> http://vanderled.com/onlinestore/product_info.php/products_id/81 0_o
[17:04] <francesco> IndyGunFreak: What about USB external HDDs?
[17:04] <dmsuperman_> celticbhoy: memorize it and re-add them ;) =P
[17:04] <xteven> rausb0, ok I am going to use screen
[17:04] <IndyGunFreak> francesco: what about them?
[17:04] <unop> xteven, you could start the command off with a lower nice value .. that way the ss server is not affected as much
[17:04] <g[r]eek> |Debian|: I run ifconfig and I get info for eth0
[17:05] <Randocal> unop - The mouse and keyboard work for a random amount of time. When the system is first powered on everything is fine for between 2 minutes and 30 minutes. Usually the mouse will stop responding first, and shortly after the keyboard goes. SSH from a WinXP machine continues to function after both keyboard and mouse die.
[17:05] <g[r]eek> |Debian|: I imagine that implies the hardware is ok
[17:05] <celticbhoy> Going to sound even dafter now, but where do I enter the details.
[17:05] <amenado> g[r]eek-> the install would still complete even if the network does not get a route to the archive, you just have to update post install
[17:05] <unop> xteven, e.g.  nice -n 20 cp -R foo bar
[17:05] <dmsuperman_> anybody have a suggestion for a guide to forwarding x over ssh?
[17:05] <|Debian|> g[r]eek: yeah
[17:05] <|Debian|> mhmm
[17:05] <francesco> IndyGunFreak: Does Ubuntu have problems with USB storage?
[17:05] <ardeny> hellp me
[17:05] <|Debian|> minimal install worked fine for me
[17:05] <xteven> unop, okay I have to read what "nice" is
[17:05] <g[r]eek> |Debian|: Also, my BIOS has a "SMART LAN" test, if I unplug the network cable it says "no connection", and with the cable plugged in it says "Connection found, cable < 10m" - so I imagine the hardware is indeed ok
[17:05] <IndyGunFreak> francesco: provided you have them in the right filesystem, etc, you shouldn't, I have 3.. they all work finej
[17:06] <apathetic-> Hello, "hda: drive not ready for command", i get that message everytime i try to boot, I cannot even use my recovery CDs (ubuntus own, freesbie, dsl), they work until the moment of acctuall startup, I do not know what to do about this, i tried to c-a-f4 and login, it just results in the same error after entring username
[17:06] <g[r]eek> |Debian|: But what I don't get is that it doesn't want to get an IP address. I run dhclient eth0 on my current pc and the DHCP server responds and assigns it an address and all is ok. But on the other PC the DHCP server doesn't respond
[17:06] <unop> Randocal, there's a few files you can check ... they're in /var/log/* kern.log, debug, syslog, etc # but i'd assume kern.log would have info
[17:06] <dmsuperman_> IndyGunFreak: re: filesystem. I have a flash drive in fat, and of course that works, but my ntfs external hard drive also works just fine as long as i use ntfs-3g
[17:06] <David_> tried http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_X-forwarding dmsuperman?
[17:07] <g[r]eek> |Debian|: Also I've tried configuring manually, iface eth0 inet static etc
[17:07] <IndyGunFreak> dmsuperman: if yuou're gonna answer, follow the conversation
[17:07] <francesco> IndyGunFreak: So I shouldn't have problem with "normal" IDE/ATA DVD burners although in the box it's not written that it's compatible with Linux. Ok?
[17:07] <dmsuperman_> David_: thanks :D
[17:07] <Randocal> thank you, i'll peek in there and see what we find
[17:07] <IndyGunFreak> francesco: that would be my thinking, yes
[17:07] <g[r]eek> |Debian|: then ifconfig gives all the details (address etc) but still no internet connection
[17:07] <|Debian|> g[r]eek:  i can't figure it out
[17:07] <francesco> IndyGunFreak: Thank you very much.
[17:07] <g[r]eek> |Debian|: Can't even ping the router, nor the other laptop on the same network
[17:07] <g[r]eek> |Debian|: I am totally stomped.
[17:07] <g[r]eek> *stumped
[17:07] <Randocal> I'm totally comfortable googling for some answers and seeing how this can perhaps be solved, I just don't know where to start this trail of things =) hopefully that will give me enough to get moving.
[17:08] <unop> dmsuperman, as long as both your ssh server and client can support X .. getting X apps to work over ssh is a breeze. ssh -X user@server 'command to start GUI application'
[17:08] <dmsuperman_> IndyGunFreak: how do you figure i didn't? he asked about probs with usb storage, and then you commented that you didn't have a problem assuming they are the right filesystem. what i'm saying is that, since most partitions are fat, ntfs, or ext3, filesystem is rarely something to consider
[17:08] <g[r]eek> |Debian|: I thought *maybe* the drivers that have been installed for the network card are not copmatiable but then ifconfig wouldn't work right?
[17:08] <danand_> dmsuperman_ - check your server allows X forwarding - look in /etc/ssh/sshd_config. Check that you have "X11Forwarding yes". Then you should just be able to ssh -X ipaddress ...
[17:08] <IndyGunFreak> dmsuperman: go back to sleep
[17:08] <lesshaste> can anyone play http://www.aftenposten.no/webtv/?id=9511&cat=22 ?
[17:09] <dmsuperman_> unop, danand_: will that work even with Putty on windows?
[17:09] <|Debian|> g[r]eek:  true
[17:09] <sgtmattbaker> my external drive is now showing no partitions and is "uninitialized", Windows XP disk management or gparted can't initialize it
[17:09] <unop> dmsuperman, windows does not understand X .. so no
[17:09] <danand_> dmsuperman - no :(
[17:09] <sluimers> hello! I have a new monitor/lcdtv for my computer and Ubuntu seems to have problems with that as in I can no longer get into gnome.. I'm in the terminal looking at xorg.conf, any suggestions?
[17:09] <dmsuperman_> unop: is there a client that i could use to use x?
[17:09] <unop> dmsuperman, although you can connect to the server from within cygwin and that handles X
[17:10] <c0kit0_2007> hello guys
[17:10] <c0kit0_2007> anybody can help me with a compilation issue?
[17:10] <DPic> the wiki returns an error when trying to edit a page that doesn't yet exist
[17:10] <dmsuperman_> unop: prefer not cygwin, i need a light tool that i can bring with me because there's like 300 computers in the school
[17:10] <unop> dmsuperman, why don't you use VNC if you are connecting from windows?
[17:10] <dmsuperman_> unop: i didn't even think of that haha
[17:10] <|Debian|> is there another way to get system uptime ... aprt from /proc/uptime ... i don't understand the output
[17:11] <sluimers> hello! I have a new monitor (samsung lcdtv LW20M21CP) for my computer and Ubuntu seems to have problems with that as in I can no longer get into gnome.. I'm in the terminal looking at xorg.conf, what to do?
[17:11] <Seveas> |Debian|, the uptime command
[17:11] <unop> |Debian|,  uptime
[17:11] <|Debian|> sweet
[17:11] <|Debian|> didnt think of that
[17:11] <|Debian|> lol
[17:12] <geirha> g[r]eek: are you certain the cable is properly connected, and at the right port? Check that the cable works on a different computer. Just to rule out hardware faults
[17:12] <francesco> IndyGunFreak: What happens when I plug an internal DVD burner to the PC. What happens when I Ubuntu starts?
[17:12] <IndyGunFreak> francesco: it should recognize it and you can use it.
[17:12] <francesco> IndyGunFreak: Automatically?
[17:12] <IndyGunFreak> francesco: yes
[17:12] <sluimers> I have a new monitor (samsung lcdtv LW20M21CP) for my computer and Ubuntu seems to have problems with that as in I can no longer get into gnome.. I'm in the terminal looking at xorg.conf, what to do?
[17:13] <dmsuperman_> sluimers: did it automatically open xorg.conf?
[17:13] <sluimers> no
[17:13] <DPic> anybody know what's up with the ubuntu wiki? can't edit new pages
[17:13] <dmsuperman_> sluimers: try backing up your xorg.conf and reconfiguring it
[17:13] <sluimers> I'm in one of those black terminal thingies
[17:13] <g[r]eek> geirha: Yup the cable is ok I've swapped it with the one I'm using on this laptop
[17:13] <cristiantp> Enter text here...ciao a tutti
[17:13] <g[r]eek> It's definately not the cable nor the hub
[17:13] <Lifeisfunny> I've done the 'dmesg | grep -i nvagp' and got no response ... and the I got the message from the straight 'dmesg' command about "tainting the kernel" for nVidia fastwrites,  but when doing the command 'cat /proc/driver/nvidia/agp/status' would anyone know why it's not responding 'enabled'   ?
[17:13] <dmsuperman_> sluimers: try "sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.backup.conf6c"
[17:13] <RenatoSilva> someone is skilled on zope/plone and want to talk in private?
[17:14] <kippy> Hello Guys, i have a problem that my swap space utlisation is always 0, I think there is a some problem in configuration how can i check it out?
[17:14] <dmsuperman_> sluimers: Then, "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"
[17:14] <dmsuperman_> sluimers: that'll walk you through configuring your xorg.conf automatically. you can usually just hit enter, enter, enter all the way through
[17:14] <unop> RenatoSilva, you should look for a zope/plone channel, you'll have better luck there
[17:14] <sluimers> I have copied the backup to xorg.conf already and sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg gives an error about some battery
[17:14] <David_> there are #zope and #plone channels RenatoSilva
[17:15] <dmsuperman_> sluimers: I'm not familiar with the -phigh argument, what's it do?
[17:15] <theunixgeek_> What's the Turkish channel?
[17:15] <lesshaste> can anyone play http://www.aftenposten.no/webtv/?id=9511&cat=22 ?
[17:15] <lartza_> I can't add launchers to AWN
[17:15] <unop> dmsuperman, -phigh only ask you about important questions
[17:15] <dmsuperman_> sluimers: try running without the -phigh argument? i never specified it when i ran it for me