[00:00] <tempUser> clone1018 maybe a live-CD live-USB System is good enough for your needs?
[00:00] <clone1018> lol
[00:00] <Gaming4JC> Kyle_S:  System>>Preferences>>Sound,  then click Input settings.
[00:00] <clone1018> login is a one time thing
[00:00] <clone1018> so this server can be setup
[00:00] <pfifo> Kyle_S, I normally use 'alsa-mixer' from the command line, press tab to switch between output/input/all controls
[00:00] <Kyle_S> Gaming4JC: Hum.  Because with my old install (no pulse audio), I had lots of options there, now I only have one.  And I get no sound input.
[00:01] <Gaming4JC> Kyle_S: Ah... :/
[00:01] <tempUser> clone1018: you are obvis using a keyboard right now can't you plug it in the other comp?
[00:01] <Kyle_S> Now it only shows "Internal Audio Analog Stero"
[00:01] <clone1018> Laptop
[00:01] <pfifo> Kyle_S, try this 'alsa-mixer -c0' or 'alsa-mixer -c1'
[00:02] <Jordan_U> magn3ts, hfsplus support in linux can only write to volumes with journaling disabled. I don't know if windows can be made to read / write to hfsplus or not.
[00:02] <pfifo> Kyle_S, i dont know how to switch cards in the GUI, but that is more than likely your problem.
[00:03] <microlith> Jordan_U: windows can, with 3rd party software packages (and not as a regular disk)
[00:03] <Kyle_S> pfifo maybe.
[00:03] <Kyle_S> this is a laptop, so I dunno why you'd have to switch cards..but still.
[00:03] <Kyle_S> Anyway, how do you switch input sources in alsamixer?
[00:04] <magn3ts> Jordan_U, yeah, I think Bootcamp drivers include hfs+ read only drivers, which is okay. I use windows < 1% of the time
[00:04] <delemi> Jordan_U, magn3ts  My windows based OS PC (XP) has issues reading and writing to my imac backup drives.
[00:04] <pfifo> Kyle_S, pulse adds some weird device as a mixer, with just a single volume control
[00:04] <Gaming4JC> Does anyone know why a kernel wouldn't take graphic acceleration?   Just errors out immidiately.
[00:06] <zer0rez_> i think i have a failing HDD how do I test for it?
[00:06] <Pici> titan_ark: killall -9 firefox
[00:06] <Pici> titan_ark: is the process yours?
[00:06] <Jooder492> what would cause my youtube videos to lagg?
[00:06] <pfifo> Kyle_S, what dose -c0 show? the pulse controlls?
[00:06] <jp--> i ran it on my usb hard disk and it woah, really fast, but on the flash drive is reaaaally slow :/
[00:06] <titan_ark> Pici, same error
[00:06] <Gaming4JC> Jooder492: Flash codec, graphic acceleration... etc.
[00:06] <jp--> and it's the same installation, I just copied the filesystem using cp -ax
[00:06] <Gaming4JC> !flash | Jooder492
[00:07] <Pici> titan_ark: what does ps aux | grep firefox    say? (minus the grep line of course)
[00:07] <Kyle_S> pfifo: it shows HDA Intel/Realtek ALC269
[00:07] <skullcandy> hey guys, is there an IM program in ubuntu that allows you to add multiple contacts?
[00:07] <Jooder492> ok ty
[00:07] <titan_ark> Pici, ah i think that muct be the problem. i have vnc-ed into my school unix account and need to mail myself the result of a script i just ran
[00:07] <skullcandy> i have a ctt file from my msn on my other computer that i need imported
[00:07] <Gaming4JC> skullcandy: Pidgin? C:) ...
[00:08] <pfifo> Kyle_S, looks like your on the right track, press tab to switch to input settings, my card has more than one mic jack, if yours dose as well you may need to change the input source
[00:08] <skullcandy> i own pidgin i cant import multiple contacts i jsut checked
[00:08] <Gaming4JC> skullcandy: Hmm, I use Pidgin for everything, I'm pretty sure it can import multiple contacts but I rarely have to import any... oh well. :/
[00:08] <Kyle_S> pfifo: Allright.  Lemmie try again.
[00:08] <Gaming4JC> skullcandy: You checked #pidgin?
[00:09] <skullcandy> @game4jc can u show me a tutorial on how to ?
[00:09] <titan_ark> Pici, yeah i think i can see that there is another persons session running
[00:09] <Gaming4JC> skullcandy: I'll check...
[00:09] <skullcandy> i'll join now and check @gaming4jc
[00:09] <har> skullcandy: pidgin should work but emapthy is good too
[00:09] <titan_ark> Pici, is its format UID PID ....?
[00:09] <pfifo> Kyle_S, if there is more than one control there you just need to play around with sound recorder and the levels until you find something that works
[00:09] <skullcandy> @har, can you show me a tutorial of empathy importating multiple contacts?
[00:10] <Gaming4JC> Hmm I'm not entirely sure lol :s
[00:10] <titan_ark> Pici, anything i can do?
[00:10] <har> skullcandy, what do you mean import, do you already have, say, an aim account and just want to use that?
[00:11] <skullcandy> no, i have an old msn account that has 1k users i talk to , and i wanna import that form my msn on my mwindows computer into my pidgin on my ubuntu desktop
[00:11] <Pici> titan_ark: ps ux | grep firefox    then
[00:11] <har> well, your account should be on the msn server so you just add the msn account
[00:11] <Gaming4JC> skullcandy: If you enter your username and password it should import them automatically? ...
[00:11] <Royall> skullcandy: I'm pretty sure all of your contacts are stored at MSN's servers, so logging on in pidgin should make them all show up
[00:11] <skullcandy> i saved all the contacts in contactlist.ctt
[00:11] <pfifo> Kyle_S, sometimes running this command in a seprate terminal can hint about the various settings 'arecord|aplay' (record input and pipe it to the output [caution this makes a bad feebback if your mic is near your speakers, best turn your volume down])
[00:12] <zer0rez_> i think i have a failing HDD how do I test for it?
[00:12] <Gaming4JC> zer0rez: System >> Administration >> disk utility. Observer S.M.A.R.T. Data, You may also want to check out Ultimate Boot CD for "Diagnostic" Tools on HDDs. :)
[00:13] <zer0rez_> Gaming4JC, thanks
[00:13] <titan_ark> Pici, http://paste.ubuntu.com/372118/
[00:13] <joe-evans> zer0rez: click system|admin|system testing does that do it
[00:13] <skullcandy> lemme explain, i' am trying to transfer all of my msn contacts to a new msn with 500+ users, i want to import 1k users from my windows laptop called contactlist.ctt to my pidgin that has 500+ contacts
[00:13] <har> skullcandy: I've never used that type of file so I'm not sure
[00:13] <skullcandy> the old msn i' am getting rid of
[00:13] <zer0rez_> joe-evans, thanks
[00:13] <har> so you're creating a new account, I see
[00:14] <titan_ark> Pici the ps us | grep throws lines 5 to 9 as the result
[00:14] <zer0rez_> weird both are reporting smart healthy.  gah don't wanna buy 2 drives just in case oh well.
[00:14] <Gaming4JC> skullcandy: Create the new account on a windows PC, import it there, then use pidigin? The contacts will remain on the server.
[00:14] <skullcandy> this is the tutorial i followed to transfer the ctt file > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=By-ioSRNNI8
[00:14] <tempUser> I am looking for something like mp3val for all files (not only mp3)
[00:15] <skullcandy> @gaming4jc my windows comp has no internet atm
[00:15] <Royall> skullcandy: did you try logging into msn on pidgin, and if so, were any of your contacts listed
[00:16] <Royall> oh wait
[00:16] <Royall> you want a new msn, never mind, that's different probably
[00:16] <Gaming4JC> skullcandy: All else fails there's always WINE (http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=application&iId=127) or perhaps aMSN can do this. :)
[00:17] <titan_ark> Pici, you with me?
[00:17] <Pici> titan_ark: sorry, my server's connection is doing weird things.
[00:17] <Bullma99> Hola
[00:18] <Gaming4JC> !es | Bullma99
[00:18] <Pici> titan_ark: manually kill the pid's listed net to the processes with your username next to them
[00:18] <Bullma99> I know.   Got scared for a min thinking I had lost my data using ext4
[00:19] <titan_ark> Pici, just kill <id> will work?
[00:19]  * Gaming4JC goes back to 9.12...
[00:19] <Bullma99> Could not boot for the longest.
[00:19] <Pici> titan_ark: yes
[00:20] <pfifo> ubottu, you so massively multi-lingual it amazes me.
[00:20] <titan_ark> Pici, this is the last one lefy: radh7997 14927  0.0  0.0 51076  696 pts/14   S+   16:27   0:00 grep firefox
[00:20] <titan_ark>  should i kill it too?
[00:21] <Pici> titan_ark: no need, it doesn't exist anymore.
[00:21] <Bullma99> Is ext 4 stable?
[00:21] <titan_ark> Pici, ah yes FF works now!
[00:21] <titan_ark> thx a milion
[00:21] <Pici> titan_ark: yay!
[00:23] <Gaming4JC> !bye | Gaming4JC
[00:23] <titan_ark> Pici, thx a ton!!! now i need to analyse the result of the script!
[00:23] <J_K9> !bye | J_K9
[00:24] <Aijse1> ye now id also like to know what our nice bott says when you leave
[00:24] <Aijse1> bye | Iced
[00:24] <pfifo> !bye | Aijse1
[00:24] <Aijse1> doh!
[00:24] <trism> you can type /msg ubottu !command to test any of them out for yourself (and not flood the channel)
[00:25] <Aijse1> thanks :-D
[00:25] <Aijse1> and bye
[00:25] <Aijse1> !exit
[00:25] <rww> !fr | ubottu
[00:25] <pfifo> trism, Im sure many are wondering, best to drop it in the chan to save her a few CPS
[00:26] <Flamekebab> Suggestions on fixing a hard disk running JFS that fsck won't check due to corrupted superblocks?
[00:26] <capron> Bullma99,  Heard some people still report problems using ext4 and luks crypt ,  I run like that but I had a miss in the md5sum after copy a 40G file
[00:26] <trism> pfifo: oh, I agree, was just pointing it out
[00:27] <Bullma99> Should I revert to ext3?
[00:28] <capron> Bullma99,  No keep it ex4 is cool
[00:28] <pfifo> Bullma99, are you experiencing any problems?
[00:28] <Bullma99> I'll cross my fingers.
[00:29] <Bullma99> My system all of sudden would not boot. linux 2.6.31-17 (grub ver 1.97)
[00:29] <pfifo> Bullma99, how sensitive is your data? maybe try ext4 for your root, but keep /home at ext3 until you decide you like it
[00:30] <Bullma99> I have not loaded system with sensitive data until I'm confident I can depend on system 100%
[00:30] <Bullma99> sadly, have xp still
[00:30] <pfifo> Bullma99, maybe try upgrading to grub2. im not sure if it supports ext4 any better, but it is an option
[00:31] <pjotr> i'll change to arch
[00:31] <Jordan_U> Bullma99, What exactly happens when it "doesn't boot" ?
[00:31] <Bullma99> Grub2. .Currently reading that too. I want to be prepared in case boot issue happens again.
[00:31] <pfifo> Bullma99, i use ext2/3 drivers in XP and I cant get ext4 to work with them so I stuck with ext3.
[00:32] <capron> Bullma99, it all depends on how important your data is and how you do your backups.
[00:34] <Mike_lifeguard> Is there a way to force all files saved in some directory to have a particular owner and/or group?
[00:34] <jrib> Mike_lifeguard: why?
[00:34] <agent47> can anyone plz help me with how to connect usb mobile broadband connection in gnome ubuntu 9.10
[00:34] <capron> Bullma99,  Grub2 is in beta I use ext3 for my /boot
[00:35] <pfifo> Mike_lifeguard, I have a few directories that I do that with in conjuction with apache, i have a daily cronjob that runs
[00:35] <Ricoshady> how do I find out what time /etc/cron.daily runs?
[00:35] <Mike_lifeguard> jrib: because currently, members of this role account are creating files in the account's $HOME which are owned by the user and have a group the role account isn't in. Thus, they are unwritable.
[00:36] <pfifo> Ricoshady, 'cat /etc/crontab' its probbally at 00:00
[00:36] <jrib> Mike_lifeguard: "the account" being the "role account"?
[00:36] <Mike_lifeguard> jrib: yes
[00:36] <capron> Do anyone use tmpfs for /tmp.   Heard it cud bee a good speed tweak ?
[00:37] <jrib> Mike_lifeguard: what you said doesn't make sense to me then
[00:37] <Mike_lifeguard> jrib: Do you understand what I mean by "role account"?
[00:37] <jrib> Mike_lifeguard: please explain
[00:37] <pfifo> capron, I do, no speed difference at all that I notice, guess it depends how much you use /tmp though
[00:38] <Ricoshady> pfifo it says 25 3    * * *   root    test -x /usr/sbin/anacron || ( cd / && run-parts --report /etc/cron.daily )
[00:38] <Mike_lifeguard> jrib: an account multiple users can su/sudo into. There is a group by the same name which those members are in - so they can access the role account's files.
[00:38] <pfifo> capron, Works great for cleaning up garbage files on reboot
[00:38] <pfifo> Ricoshady, your cron.daily runs at 3:25am local time
[00:39] <capron> pfifo, nice ,  How much ram do you have ?
[00:39] <Mike_lifeguard> jrib: however, if they *create* files in the role account's $HOME, they would be owned by their normal account, and in their normal account's primary group. Which the role account is /not/ in. Thus, those files are unmodifiable by the role account.
[00:39] <pfifo> capron, 2gb
[00:39] <BitWraith> does anybody know why I might have lost SD card support during the last update?
[00:40] <Mike_lifeguard> jrib: the users cannot chown or chgrp the files, so some mechanism to force file ownership and/or group inside the role account's $HOME seems like a very sensible way to solve the issue.
[00:40] <jrib> Mike_lifeguard: the answer to your original question is ACLs, but there is bound to be a better solution here.  If people are su or sudo into the role account, why are the files not being created as the role user?
[00:40] <BitWraith> if I plug in the card and look at dmesg, there is no sign that the interface even exists
[00:40] <capron> pfifo,  Is it anything you cant do ,  Heard compile and video editing cud eat take lot of space in /tmp
[00:40] <BitWraith> I assume there are kernel modules missing... what modules provide SD support?
[00:40] <orangefly> i've tried the 64 bit and 32 bit versions of ubuntu on an acer aspire 7740 and all i get is a black screen....i can here the startup....any ideas....???....
[00:41] <Mike_lifeguard> jrib: because they're human and thus lazy - doing it this way saves them trouble initially (until we get stuck with unmodifiable files)
[00:41] <jrib> Mike_lifeguard: so they are creating files with their own accounts and presumably have access because they belong to the role group?
[00:41] <Mike_lifeguard> jrib: yes
[00:42] <pfifo> capron, Ahh yes there is one thing I have to work around, I was using a dvd authoring tool to make some DVD's (from legal sources that I own the copyright to of course) It would use /tmp by default, so I had to tell it to use /home/pfifo/tmp
[00:42] <Bullma99> wish me luck. will upgrade to grub2
[00:43] <MTecknology> Bullma99: I'm fighting with grub...
[00:43] <jrib> Mike_lifeguard: usually you can do this two ways: 1) ACLs (man setfacl, man getfacl, man mount (you have to add the acl option)) and 2) is to change the umask so files created are group-writable for those users and setgid the directory in question (this way files should be owned by the group on the parent directory by default)
[00:43] <doesntmatter> Has anyone played around with sun virtualbox and linux?
[00:43] <Bullma99> oh oh..Fighting w/grub?
[00:44] <jrib> doesntmatter: no, no one never has.  ever.  Just kidding: ask your real question :)
[00:44] <doesntmatter> I'm having trouble setting up a network adapter to work with it.
[00:44] <Mike_lifeguard> jrib: I think setgit is what I was thinking of... is there setuid too?
[00:44] <capron> pfifo,  thanks I might try it I also have 2G ram
[00:44] <Mike_lifeguard> *setgid
[00:44] <jrib> Mike_lifeguard: there is but I actually don't think it has any effect on directories
[00:44] <Mike_lifeguard> jrib: ok, well I will look into those - thanks
[00:45] <pfifo> capron, There are stting in the mount command that you can specify to set the maximum amout of memory, if you find your system getting lagged because of it, you may want to try that.
[00:46] <MTecknology> I recreated partitions on a drive, I used rsync to copy data over the partitions and verified it all transferred correctly. I did grub-install /dev/sda --no-floppy from the live cd. When I boot I get a grub command line without any error. Any ideas what I'm missing? I'm moving off of a drive that's dying and I'm happy I'm getting this done before it completely dies...
[00:46] <JBS> sLm
[00:47] <jrib> doesntmatter: you might try #vbox but you need to ask specific, detailed questions if you expect any help
[00:47] <doesntmatter> Well I'm running backtrack 4 on sun virtual box
[00:47] <pfifo> MTecknology, is you old drive still connected?
[00:48] <doesntmatter> I have a new network adapter in my network settings called virtual something....
[00:48] <MTecknology> pfifo: no
[00:48] <jrib> !enter | doesntmatter
[00:48] <Dracofodder> is there an easy way to get a newer version of flashplugin-installer applied?  I have found a problem with the flash 10.0.42 in Firefox, that is fixed in 10.1 d51 (included with seamonkey 2.02) but I'd much rather use firefox and get updates from the repo, but I also want things to actually work, yet I don't know how to get this newer version applied to FF.
[00:48] <pfifo> MTecknology, was the old drive connected when you ran grub-install?
[00:48] <doesntmatter> Its called virtualbox host-only adapter
[00:49] <MTecknology> pfifo: no, I'm on the new drive now - now I just switch back and forth
[00:51] <benkong2> hello all
[00:51] <benkong2> how can I tell what options ruby1.8 was compiled with?
[00:52] <jrib> !source | benkong2
[00:52] <pfifo> MTecknology, My first guess is that your grub configuration is looking at the wrong harddrive or the wrong partition, or in other words, a file not found.However, if your using grub2 which im not as familiar with,it could be something else. Can you boot from command line grub?
[00:52] <jrib> benkong2: read debian/rules in the source package
[00:52] <MTecknology> pfifo: I tried but didn't really know how
[00:52] <benkong2> jrib: ok reading thanks
[00:53] <pfifo> MTecknology, ok, are you using grub 1 or 2?
[00:53] <MTecknology> pfifo: 2
[00:54] <Jooder492> how do i enable hardware acceleration?
[00:55] <pfifo> MTecknology, unfortunatly I wont be much help, have a look at your /boot/grub/grub.cfg file to figure out the commands you need to run to boot
[00:56] <Nomadluap> Can someone help me with a trackpad problem?
[00:56] <jrib> Nomadluap: best to just ask the channel your actual question (on a single line)
[00:57] <Jordan_U> MTecknology, You need to fix your grub.cfg by hand or run grub-mkconfig from within the new system ( for instance in a chroot )
[00:58] <PingFloyd> can someone explain to me about what "search domains" means in nm-applet?
[00:58] <Jordan_U> MTecknology, Or more correctly, you need to have a grub.cfg in the first place
[00:58] <Nomadluap> The trackpad on my Acer Aspire 5738 isn't being recognised in the Mouse preference panel. I: do not even have a Trackpad tab showing up. How do I fix this?
[00:58] <MTecknology> Jordan_U: I do, it was copied directly from the other drive and all partitions are the same except UUID; I ran update-grub
[00:59] <PingFloyd> the online help said "In the Search Domains box, put in the domain names you wish to automatically search as a comma-separated list", but it seemed rather ambiguous
[01:00] <Jordan_U> MTecknology, You ran update-grub from within the new system?
[01:00] <MTecknology> Jordan_U: ya
[01:00] <pfifo> MTecknology, ok that specifically why im shaking on answering, I dont know id grub2 uses UUID, if it dose that is probbally your problem
[01:00] <MTecknology> Jordan_U: from the ubuntu recovery cd
[01:00] <Bennage> what is the best file system to format a partition for ubuntu?
[01:00] <armence> Hey all, I installed 9.10 Koala and I do not have any sound... Can somebody help? (Yes, the volume is turned up and yes it works under my old os...)
[01:00] <Jordan_U> MTecknology, Can you use the grub shell and stay on IRC at the same time?
[01:01] <PingFloyd> anybody understand what "search domains" means in nm-applet?
[01:01] <igie> Hi folks, I'm behind NAT and a firewall. I've set it up to port forward for sftp, and ssh on port 22. I'm running "openssh" am trying to enable "ChrootDirectory" but run into an error, saying it could not connect... Without Chroot, things work fine... the directory is owned by "root" and I have no idea what i'm doing wrong.... Anyone know how to solve???
[01:01] <MTecknology> Jordan_U: nope :(
[01:02] <pfifo> PingFloyd, yes, it uses that setting to try and search for a domain that dose not resolve through DNS
[01:02] <Jordan_U> MTecknology, Did you run grub-install within the chroot?
[01:02] <veasmkii_> Is there any way i can add start up applications (commands) in ubuntu using a script/cli?
[01:02] <MTecknology> Jordan_U: no, from the ubuntu recovery cd that dropped me into a chroot
[01:02] <Guest69068> help me
[01:02] <Guest69068> please
[01:02] <ton> hi
[01:03] <Jordan_U> MTecknology, Do you have a separate /boot partition?
[01:03] <semitones> !ask
[01:03] <MTecknology> Jordan_U: ya
[01:03] <MTecknology> Jordan_U: I shoulda mounted that huh....
[01:03] <Nomadluap> Does anybody in here know anyting about touchpads and synaptics; specifically trying to get synaptics to recognise said trackpad?
[01:03] <MTecknology> Jordan_U: When I can reboot I'll go back into that and try again...
[01:03] <Jordan_U> MTecknology, Should have, but probably didn't
[01:03] <fez> veasmkii_: edit /etc/rc.local
[01:03] <MTecknology> Jordan_U: thanks - I'll try that
[01:03] <Jordan_U> MTecknology, np
[01:04] <Bennage> can ext4 be read by windoze?
[01:04] <Nomadluap> Bennage: nope
[01:04] <Bennage> ext3?
[01:04] <Guest69068> ok i have a wireless connection but no browser.....apt get doesnt work.....synaptic update no luck doi have to reinstall ubuntu all over again
[01:04] <usser> Bennage, nope
[01:04] <Nomadluap> Bennage: I don't thiink so
[01:05] <pfifo> Bennage, yes ext3 works for me
[01:05] <jguzikowski> umm i really messed up my computer D:
[01:05] <Nomadluap> Bennage: it can read ext2 with an addon, but I wouldn't recomendd that
[01:05] <Bennage> ah
[01:05] <usser> Bennage, ext2 will work, to be honest ext3 will work too but it will be read as ext2 since its backwards compatible.
[01:05] <jguzikowski> i deleted my ubuntu partition that had grub on it i guess so now when i try to boot up my old windows 7 it says 'partition not found' grub rescue
[01:05] <jguzikowski> what do i do?
[01:05] <Bennage> would ext3 be the best filesystem to use on a partitioned drive with XP and Os x?
[01:05] <usser> Bennage, for sharing data between XP and OSX?
[01:06] <pfifo> Bennage, depends if you need to use files > 2gb
[01:06] <Bennage> and ubuntu
[01:06] <semitones> Bennage, fat32 would be the most compatible if you don't have any files larger than 4gb
[01:06] <veasmkii_> thanks fez, thats actually quite useful information. :)
[01:06] <Bennage> probably will be bigger than 4gb
[01:06] <semitones> hmm
[01:06] <seth_> My logitech webcam works ]
[01:06]  * semitones wonders if xfc is supported by XP and mac
[01:07] <Bennage> XFC or XFS?
[01:07] <seth_> My Logitech webcam works in programs like Skype and Cheese, but it does not work in flash.  Can anyone help me out with this?
[01:07] <Nomadluap> Does anybody in here know anyting about touchpads and synaptics; specifically trying to get synaptics to recognise said trackpad?
[01:07] <jguzikowski> can anyone help me? :( im in serous trouble right now
[01:07] <Guest69068> how do i reinstall firefox without apt get or add remove
[01:07] <semitones> Bennage, probably XFS :)
[01:07] <jguzikowski> well not serious but i can't really lose my windows 7 partition for work
[01:07] <Bennage> :P
[01:08] <pfifo> jguzikowski, do a fresh reinstall of ubuntu. thats probbally the easiest way to go
[01:08] <jguzikowski> well not serious but i can't really lose my windows 7 partition for work?
[01:08] <jguzikowski> woops i didnt mean to send that
[01:08] <pfifo> jguzikowski, do you only have 1 partition now?
[01:08] <Guest69068> can i back anything up on usb flash ?
[01:08] <jguzikowski> pfifo, that'll work? also is there anyway i can just skip grub and go right back to booting windows 7
[01:09] <jguzikowski> pfifo, yeah im on ubuntu via flash drive now
[01:09] <seth_> My Logitech webcam works in programs like Skype and Cheese, but it does not work in flash.  Can anyone help me out with this?
[01:09] <pfifo> jguzikowski, run the gparted program and resize you windows partition, then install ubuntu on the newly freed space
[01:09] <jguzikowski> pfifo, i just want it to boot windows without grub is what i mean to say
[01:10] <Guest69068> ive reinstalled ubuntu 8 times and it takes hours to get allmy updates back
[01:10] <jguzikowski> or rather, i dont really need/want ubuntu back unless its vital to getting me back into my windows partitin
[01:10] <Nomadluap> Does anybody in here know anyting about touchpads and synaptics; specifically trying to get synaptics to recognise said trackpad? The trackpad on my Aspire 5738 isn't being recognised. Can someone help me get it fixed?
[01:10] <pfifo> jguzikowski, ohh well in that case... on windows 3.1-XP, i would always use 'fdisk /fixmbr' from windows
[01:10] <usser> jguzikowski, boot into live cd run fdisk -l making sure to note which disk contains windows and run sudo apt-get install lilo sudo lilo -M /dev/sda mbr where sda is the drive with your windows 7
[01:11] <jguzikowski> pfifo, i can't get into windows thats my problem :P but i think usser has got the fix
[01:11] <usser> jguzikowski, alternatively if you have access to window install disk run repair from that disk.
[01:11] <pfifo> jguzikowski, Yes usser is right, if you install a bootloader youll be fine
[01:11] <jguzikowski> okay thank you SO much guys i was freaking out..
[01:12] <Nomadluap> anybody?
[01:12] <usser> jguzikowski, backup before all those excercises!
[01:12] <usser> jguzikowski, i cant stress backup enough. backup.
[01:13] <Guest69068> ok how do i back up my file system before reinstalling
[01:14] <pfifo> Guest69068, by copying the files to another disk or network file server
[01:15] <Guest69068> ok and how?
[01:15] <igie> can anyone help me configure ChrootDirectory in openssh ?
[01:16] <Jordan_U> usser, Any advantage to lilo -M mbr vs install-mbr from the "mbr" package?
[01:16] <kayve> why should I choose java-jre instead of java-bin?  for developer?
[01:16] <pfifo> Guest69068, using the copy command 'cp' or drag and drop from nautilus
[01:16] <Bennage> HOW MUCH SPACE SHOULD I MAKE SWAP SPACE?
[01:16] <Bennage> ergh, sorry - caps
[01:16] <Bullma99> back
[01:16] <pfifo> Bennage, Zero Bytes
[01:16] <Bullma99> Reboot w/no problem
[01:16] <semitones> Bennage, I thiink it'
[01:16] <Bennage> on about 60gig space for the OS, how much of that should I use as swap?
[01:16] <Guest69068> cant i just reinstall firefox somehowif that is all i want
[01:17] <jguzikowski> Fatal: /dev/sda2 is not a master device with a primary parition table
[01:17] <semitones> Bennage, it should be the same amount as your RAM
[01:17] <Bullma99> kernel 2.6.31-19 and edited grub 2 timeout to "0"
[01:17] <jguzikowski> usser, that's the error i just got
[01:17] <pfifo> Bennage, 2GB of ram right? dont use swap at all.
[01:17] <Nomadluap> Does anybody in here know anyting about touchpads and synaptics; specifically trying to get synaptics to recognise said trackpad? The trackpad on my Aspire 5738 isn't being recognised. Can someone help me get it fixed?
[01:17] <Jordan_U> jguzikowski, Point it at the drive, sda, not a partition like sda2
[01:18] <jguzikowski> Jordan_U, not sure I understand
[01:19] <jguzikowski> Jordan_U, think I got it, gonna give this a shot
[01:19] <Nomadluap> Is there anybody out there?
[01:19] <usser> Jordan_U, nope
[01:19] <kayve> instead of java-6-jre can I do java-6-jdk? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java
[01:19] <Guest69068> how can ireinstall firefox
[01:19] <jrib> Nomadluap: too bad you just missed the pingfloyd guy
[01:20] <semitones> jrib, Nomadluap hehe
[01:20] <pfifo> Nomadluap, yes we can see your having trouble with a piece of hardware, If someone knew the answer they would have offered help. You may want to try back later
[01:20] <Nomadluap> ok, I will.
[01:20] <Nomadluap> Sorry for the spam
[01:20] <Sematary> Can any of you explain to me how to update the glibc in ubuntu?
[01:20] <semitones> Nomadluap, another option is post a thread on the forum, you might have better luck there
[01:21] <jrib> Sematary: update-manager handles that for you
[01:21] <Jooder492> how do i get ahold of 3rd  drivers?
[01:21] <kayve> am I muzzled or something?  Is anybody hearing me?
[01:21] <Sematary> It told me there are no updates
[01:21] <Nomadluap> which one? ubuntuforums.org?
[01:21] <Sematary> but I have version 2.1 something
[01:21] <jrib> Sematary: then it's the latest in the repositories
[01:21] <Sematary> and I need at least 2.2 or higher
[01:22] <Bennage> what's the difference between primary and logical?
[01:22] <Bennage> ...in partitioning?
[01:22] <Sematary> I'm having problems with flash plugins and I tried to install flash 9 but it said glibc was out of date
[01:22] <izmailive> hii... whois indonesian?
[01:22] <hyperstream> Bennage, http://lmgtfy.com/?q=the+difference+between+primary+and+logical
[01:22] <izmailive> hii... whois indonesian?
[01:23] <Bennage> sprry
[01:23] <Bennage> :P
[01:23] <kayve> te jrib does anybody hear me?
[01:23] <izmailive> wanna chat whit indonesian
[01:24] <pfifo> Bennage, you can have upto 4 primary partiotions on your hard disk, however one of those can be used as an extended partition that allows you to have many more logical partitions
[01:24] <Trek> !ot | izmailive
[01:24] <Flamekebab> Suggestions on fixing a hard disk running JFS that fsck won't check due to corrupted superblocks?
[01:24] <izmailive> wazzup?!
[01:25] <Bennage> thx
[01:27] <pluma> I'm afraid I may have corrupted my filesystem. Ubuntu forced me into a recovery shell, I ran fsck as it told me (although fsck warned me about the drive being mounted) and now Ubuntu locks up in the boot screen with Num/Scroll lock LEDs blinking. Is there anything I can do to recover my data?
[01:28] <Bullma99> Pluma. I just had the same problem.
[01:28] <Bullma99> Pluma- I was this close to erasing all my data
[01:28] <pluma> Bullma99: Please tell me I can still recover the files on the partition... I don't have any backups.
[01:29] <james_> hello
[01:29] <Sematary> so can anyone give me some clue on this whole glibc thing
[01:29] <Sematary> ?
[01:29] <pfifo> !hi | james
[01:29] <hyperstream> pluma, put it into another pc and run some data recovery software?
[01:29] <jron> Can anyone tell me how to properly add a user to samba!? I keep adding users but no /etc/samba/smbpasswd file is created
[01:29] <Bullma99> I'm a newby but ended rebooting from livecd
[01:29] <james_> hi pfifo
[01:29] <jrib> pluma: even if you do recover your files, remember this feeling and make backups from now on.  Everyone has this moment
[01:29] <hyperstream> Sematary, try googling about it, and/or producing errors
[01:29] <pfifo> Sematary, why flash 9, install the latest flash.
[01:29] <liljay> can someone tell me how to watch videos on youtube?
[01:30] <Sematary> because when my daughter tries to play yoville, it won't work with flash 10
[01:30] <hyperstream> !flash | liljay
[01:30] <Sematary> just hangs
[01:30] <Sematary> I tried adding seamonkey but that hung as well
[01:30] <pluma> jrib: I know. I will. I inherited the infrastructure from my predecessor and never got around to setting up a backup myself. I will set up a cronjob as soon as I can recover the data.
[01:30] <pfifo> Sematary, my dad plays texas holdem on myspace, i installed windows-firefox on wine, works like a charm
[01:31] <matrixfox> ewww myspace
[01:31] <ZykoticK9> liljay, option 2 - install chrome or chromium and goto youtube.com/html5
[01:31] <Nz3212> ./configure: line 14535: syntax error near unexpected token `libmpdclient,'
[01:31] <Nz3212> ./configure: line 14535: `PKG_CHECK_MODULES(libmpdclient, libmpdclient >= 2.1,'
[01:31] <Sematary> I installed wine
[01:31] <Sematary> not sure what to do with that now
[01:31] <pluma> Bullma99: So you could still mount the fs via live cd?
[01:31] <liljay> where do i install it?
[01:31] <Sematary> I'd love to have any browser that will allow her to play her game
[01:31] <james_> how can i change my nick name?
[01:31] <pluma> james_: /nick <mynickname>?
[01:31] <semitones> liljay, you install it from Synaptic, the package manager
[01:31] <pfifo> Sematary, download the windows firefox setup.exe and goto a command line 'wine setup.exe'
[01:31] <Bullma99> Pluma..yes
[01:31] <hyperstream> !nick | james_
[01:32] <jameschu> oh
[01:32] <Bullma99> Pluma..In fact, now that I look back, I used my thumbdrive
[01:32] <Nz3212> trying to compile a program from source and getting this.......... ./configure: line 14535: `PKG_CHECK_MODULES(libmpdclient, libmpdclient >= 2.1,'
[01:32] <Bullma99> I had both plugged and was getting frustrated thinking I was going to lose everything
[01:32] <liljay> what area is chrome under in the install thing
[01:32] <Sematary> I guess I'm having difficulty understanding wine
[01:32] <Sematary> I see it
[01:32] <Sematary> but I don't know how to use it
[01:32] <Bullma99> I was getting boot error and drive would not mount
[01:32] <pluma> Bullma99: I was hoping that this could work, but I didn't have a live CD with me at the time.  They hired a student for data entry half a year ago and I was afraid I'd have to try and manually input all the data myself in order to recover it =P
[01:34] <Nz3212> what the fuck?
[01:34] <semitones> !oh my
[01:34] <semitones> eh
[01:35] <jrib> Nz3212: please keep it pg-13 in here.  Anyway do: sudo apt-get build-dep ncmpcpp   but see ubottu
[01:35] <jrib> !compile > Nz3212
[01:35] <Dextronaut> does anybody know of a video player that uses oss?
[01:35] <ZykoticK9> Dextronaut, "mplayer -ao oss $filename"
[01:35] <matrixfox> ya mplayer
[01:35] <Dextronaut> Thank you.
[01:35] <Pici> Nz3212: sudo apt-get build-dep ncmpcpp     should get you the dependencies you need to compile it.
[01:36] <semitones> liljay, I'm looking in Ubuntu software center now, but you *might* have to install chrome separately -- like you would on windows or mac
[01:36] <liljay> i am having a hard time figuring out how to install things on ubuntu
[01:36] <ZykoticK9> liljay, from a terminal "sudo apt-get install chromium-browser"
[01:36] <jrib> !software | liljay
[01:36] <Nz3212> Pici: jrib same error
[01:36] <semitones> liljay, for most things, it's as easy as looking for them in Synaptic or Ubuntu Software Center. But a few things, like chrome, you have to download separately
[01:38] <jonzbcc> a "simulate" with GRSYNC gives me "permission denied" errors -- does anyone know how to solve this? It doesn't make sense that you'd have to use sudo grsync or gksu grsync from a command or F2, because this is a _GUI_ front end.. that would defeat the purpose. I'm not just trying to be a pain: I want to make this work for my girlfriend
[01:38] <liljay> eh i can't get it
[01:38] <pfifo> chrome isnt in synaptics? maybe hhfkhc was onto something :D
[01:39] <semitones> huh, why did liljay leave
[01:39] <ZykoticK9> pfifo, chrome isn't - that's from google directly, but the open source chromium is.  and hhfkhc doesn't know what he's talking about.
[01:39] <Dextronaut> lol pfifo.
[01:40] <Dextronaut> I'm guessing cuz it's beta apparently
[01:41] <ZykoticK9> Dextronaut, beta doesn't have anything to do with it - "chrome" is google's proprietary version
[01:41] <jameschu> pfifo, where are u now?
[01:41] <jonzbcc> anyone use grsync/
[01:41] <Dextronaut> Oo
[01:41] <pfifo> jameschu, florida,but thats too offtopic for this chan, im in #ubuntu-offtopic for chat
[01:42] <tessarakt> Hi!
[01:42] <carl_c> Hey folks I'm new to Ubuntu, just thought I'd come hang out. It's been years since I've used IRC.
[01:42] <Nz3212> ./configure: line 14535: `PKG_CHECK_MODULES(libmpdclient, libmpdclient >= 2.1,' alreayd done sudo build-dep ncmpcpp any ideas?
[01:42] <jrib> Nz3212: make sure you can compile vanilla ncmpcpp first without the extra stuff you are trying
[01:42] <tessarakt> Is the Netbook Remix available with the text-based installer?
[01:42] <Nz3212> jrib: I just did, and I can't
[01:42] <isa> hi !
[01:43] <detrate> is there any program that will execute a command every x seconds, without adding a cron job?
[01:43] <detrate> sort of like 'watch'
[01:43] <Pici> detrate: whats wrong with using 'watch'?
[01:43] <jonzbcc> detrate: a for loop
[01:43] <pfifo> tessarakt, Technically netboox just uses a different set of packages by default all which should be available in the text-install
[01:44] <detrate> watch -n2 $(fortune | cowsay -f $(ls /usr/share/cowsay/cows/ | shuf | head -n1))
[01:44] <detrate> doesn't work 6_^
[01:44] <tessarakt> ok
[01:44] <Sematary> hey pfifo, I downloaded it (twice) but when I open up the C:\ drive with wine it doesn't show
[01:44] <jameschu> pfifo, I have change to offtop, but can not see u
[01:44] <tessarakt> so I just take the normal text-based install CD
[01:44] <tessarakt> and try to put it on a SD card
[01:44] <Nz3212> jrib: any ideas?
[01:45] <Pici> detrate: put your command into a script and then run that script with watch.
[01:45] <jrib> Nz3212: ncmpcpp was probably rewritten to depend on the libmpdclient library (which seems to be new and not in karmic)
[01:45] <pfifo> Sematary, you downloaded the setup.exe with the linux version of firefor which gennerally puts the file on your desktop.
[01:45] <Sematary> I told it where to go
[01:45] <detrate> Pici: there's gotta be a way I can do it without that as well
[01:45] <Sematary> guess that doesn't work, huh?
[01:46] <Dr_Willis> The 'Desktop' also known as the 'great big place where everything gets dumped' sort of like Your Junk Drawer.
[01:46] <pfifo> Sematary, now you dont want to 'Browse C drive' you wnat to goto that download location and right click it in nautilus, select 'Run with Wine'
[01:46] <ZykoticK9> jrib, perhaps libmpdclient2 will work (not sure if it's in karmic, it's in lucid)
[01:46] <almark1> hello I'm trying to install build-essential on a hardy based distro could someone pls look at my errors build-essential will not install
[01:46] <almark1> http://paste.ubuntu.com/372152/
[01:47] <jrib> ZykoticK9: you need the -dev version in any case and it's a good idea to rebuild the package
[01:47] <Sematary> ok
[01:47] <Sematary> not to sound stupid
[01:47] <Sematary> but what is nautilus
[01:47] <Sematary> can you tell I'm new to this?
[01:47] <ZykoticK9> jrib, "libmpdclient-dev" is in lucid, not sure about karmic
[01:47] <Dr_Willis> Sematary:  the default gnome file manager
[01:47] <Pici> detrate: This seems to work (keep the quotes intact): watch 'fortune | cowsay -f $(ls /usr/share/cowsay/cows/ | shuf | head -n1 )'
[01:47] <Nz32> jrib: sorry xchat crashed, was asking you about my compiling error
[01:47] <evstatii> .quit
[01:47] <detrate> got it
[01:47] <detrate> yeah
[01:48] <detrate> but now I have a new problem :-P
[01:48] <jrib> almark1: have you mixed repositories or installed any debs manually?
[01:48] <detrate> it's picking the same random character
[01:48] <Pici> detrate: Although you may want to use fortune -s, for the shorter fortunes
[01:48] <almark1> I have tired everything, I have done apt-get update many times and at first it didn't work due to my sources.list needed keys
[01:48] <ZykoticK9> almark1, have you tried running "sudo apt-get -f install"?
[01:48] <almark1> jrib yes I have installed something manually with deb
[01:48] <jrib> almark1: what did you install?
[01:48] <Pici> detrate: it works fine here.
[01:48] <almark1> ZykoticK9 yes
[01:48] <Dr_Willis> almark1: even without the keys it should work. just give warnings about the keys being needed.
[01:49] <SeViLLa> ?
[01:49] <almark1> jrib: let me look I hope its in my history from term
[01:49] <firevai> hi everyone.. anyone up for helping me tackle a sound card issue?
[01:49] <detrate> got it
[01:49] <firevai> installed a new pci soundcard, but i'm only getting sound out of one side.. it works fine in windows
[01:49] <detrate> watch -n2 "fortune | cowsay -f \$(ls /usr/share/cowsay/cows/ | shuf | head -n1)"
[01:49] <detrate> needed to escape the $
[01:49] <firevai> i've checked mixer settings and stuff allready
[01:50] <jrib> almark1: pastebin the following too: apt-cache policy libc6-dev linux-libc-dev
[01:50] <jrib> Nz3212: ncmpcpp was probably rewritten to depend on the libmpdclient library (which seems to be new and not in karmic)  is the last thing I said
[01:50] <detrate> is there anyway I can color it without breaking it? sort of like toilet --gay
[01:50] <littlegirl> fireval: Did you double-check that the speakers are plugged in properly?
[01:51] <almark1> ok
[01:51] <firevai> yes it works fine in windows littlegirl
[01:51] <firevai> card shows in lspci.. and cpl other places
[01:52] <firevai> checked all my sound settings too.. and pretty sure i have it set to right card
[01:52] <almark1> jrib_ here you go http://paste.ubuntu.com/372155/
[01:52] <Dr_Willis> detrate:  there are generic 'colorizer' tools out there that can color text based on regular expression patterns
[01:52] <littlegirl> fireval: Is it all sound, or just sound in a specific program?
[01:52] <Nz32> ./configure: line 14535: `PKG_CHECK_MODULES(libmpdclient, libmpdclient >= 2.1,' when trying to compile ncmpcpp from source, any ideas?
[01:52] <detrate> hmm
[01:53] <jrib> almark1: did you figure out what you installed, because linux-libc-dev is not from the repositories (and it's the problem)
[01:53] <firevai> all sound.. i only get sound out of my right speakers, and subwoofer
[01:53] <jrib> Nz32: didn't we say already?
[01:53] <Dr_Willis> seems like a lot of work  just to have some pretty fortune outputs...
[01:53] <firevai> i have a 7:1 surround card, and 6:1 speakers lol
[01:53] <almark1> jrib now I remember
[01:53] <Nz32> jrib: I tried what you said
[01:53] <jrib> Nz32: what's that?
[01:53] <almark1> jrib: envy
[01:54] <Nz32> jrib: the build-dep command
[01:54] <jrib> almark1: well I doubt it was envy but linux-libc-dev is the problem.  The only issue is, there may be more
[01:54] <almark1> jrib I need it so I can get my dual monitors to go to default and really just configure it properly
[01:54] <detrate> Dr_Willis: I enjoy stretching reality in a different direction this evening
[01:54] <firevai> ugg sorry i'll bbiab.. something just came up
[01:54] <firevai> bbs
[01:54] <littlegirl> fireval: What is your setting in System --> Preferences --> Sound?
[01:54] <almark1> _jrib ack
[01:54] <jrib> Nz32: and then after?  We talked about the libmpdclient library not being in karmic
[01:54] <almark1> _jrib let me look in my bash_history
[01:54] <Nz32> jrib: I did not see anything about that, sorry, what do you recommend I do then
[01:55] <Sematary> pfifo - I have firefox working in wine
[01:55] <Sematary> same process for flash player?
[01:55] <marco123> Question fo you, since last update 8.04 to 9.10 my usb device are not deteced I got error log Can someone help me thanks
[01:55] <jrib> Nz3212: ncmpcpp was probably rewritten to depend on the libmpdclient library (which seems to be new and not in karmic)
[01:56] <pfifo> Sematary, goto youtube or whatever and use the auto-install
[01:56] <jrib> Sematary: you realize firefox and flash work natively in linux?
[01:56] <nvme> anyone know the name of the package that lets you trim white space off pdf files ?
[01:56] <Sematary> ya, I know
[01:56] <Sematary> but version 10 doesn't play the game my daughter plays
[01:56] <Sematary> and I would need to update the glibc to install 9
[01:56] <Sematary> it's ridiculous
[01:57] <Sematary> goto youtube?
[01:57] <jrib> Sematary: you shouldn't have to touch glibc
[01:57] <almark1> jrib one is avast
[01:57] <Sematary> tell that to the flash 9 installer
[01:57] <Nz32> jrib: sorry, i dont understand, i have ncmpccp installed already, the same version im trying to compile infact, so are you saying it is not possible for it to work in karmic, or am I not getting your meaning
[01:57] <Sematary> it tells me I need at least 2.2 and ubuntu has 2.1
[01:57] <almark1> jrib one is dssi
[01:57] <jrib> Sematary: just copy the libflashplayer.so yourself to ~/.mozilla/plugins/
[01:57] <Sematary> I tried that
[01:57] <jrib> Sematary: and?
[01:57] <Sematary> I fixed all my permissions, etc...
[01:58] <Sematary> wouldn't let me copy it
[01:58] <jrib> Sematary: pastebin what you did and what the error was exactly
[01:58] <Sematary> I've completely deleted all the flash stuff from linux now but still have the flash 10 installer if I want it
[01:58] <pfifo> Sematary, version 10 of windows flash seems to work better for those games. use windows-firefox in wine to play them, youll need to install flash via the auto installer while running the windows version of firefox
[01:58] <bluebaron> is there a way to get the config of a kernel with only the binary kernel file?
[01:58] <jrib> nvme: the only thing I would guess could do it would be pdftk, but no idea
[01:58] <Sematary> that's what I'm doing now pfifo
[01:58] <littlegirl> Sematary: Did you go to Tools --> Addons --> Plugins and remove it in Firefox before copying over the new one?
[01:59] <Sematary> yes
[01:59] <Flamekebab> Suggestions on fixing a hard disk running JFS that fsck won't check due to corrupted superblocks?
[01:59] <almark1> _jrib am I missing something lol I have tried many things but to no avail
[01:59] <jameschu> when will upgrade the firefox of ubuntu9.10 to 3.6 version
[01:59] <jrib> well remove that package for starters... wait for more issues to arise since we don't know how it got installed
[01:59] <jrib> almark1: ^
[02:00] <nvme> jrib, yeah its texlive extras
[02:00] <almark1> _jrib yes I will try that
[02:00] <nvme> pdfcrop apparently, my search for pdftrim wasnt returning stuff :P
[02:00] <jrib> nvme: oh cool
[02:00] <almark1> hope I dont break something lol
[02:02] <marco123> That's my error msg usb 2-1: device descriptor read/64, error -110
[02:02] <almark1> jrib: I'm about to remove the package but if I do will remove g++ and g++ 4.2
[02:03] <almark1> jrib: I really don't know if I should remove that package especially if its g++
[02:03] <Paradox> anyone with ubuntu want to do me a project?
[02:04] <resno> i somehow messed something up, when i go to view a file using sudo, i get Error reading /home/bryan/.nano_history: Permission denied
[02:04] <Paradox> doh
[02:04] <Paradox> i mistyped that seriously
[02:04] <Dr_Willis> resno:  you could delete that file. its permissions are proberly wrong.
[02:04] <Paradox> i meant to say anyone with bazaar want to help me out with something?
[02:04] <Malin_> back?
[02:05] <Dr_Willis> resno:  running stuff with sudo can make files in the users home.. that one is proberly owned by root not the user
[02:05] <ZykoticK9> resno, "ls -l /home/bryan/.nano_history"
[02:05] <Bullma99> Just installed startup manager- easy way to configure bootloader
[02:06] <resno> ZykoticK9: root root
[02:06] <fwaokda> when i run "make" I get this... can anyone help me figure out what I need to do to correct it? http://pastebin.com/d4c1f52d9  thanks
[02:06] <resno> Dr_Willis: ill just delete it thanks.
[02:06] <ZykoticK9> resno, is your username bryan?  "sudo chown bryan:bray /home/bryan/.nano_history"
[02:07] <ZykoticK9> resno, that second bray is a typo obviously
[02:07] <resno> thanks ZykoticK9
[02:07] <resno> i figured it was a typo ZykoticK9
[02:08] <DasFlo> Hey guys... might somebody be in the mood to help me get Ubuntu going?
[02:08] <resno> !ask | DasFlo
[02:08] <Dr_Willis> DasFlo:  tell the channel the full problem.
[02:09] <igie> do i need ssh for openssh to work?? or are they two separate entities working separately ?
[02:09] <erick1138> necesito ayuda con monodeveloped hola
[02:09] <blakkheim> lol
[02:10] <resno> Dr_Willis: whats the best way to sudo open a file and not have the happen?
[02:10] <arquebus> !es
[02:10] <almark1> jrib: this is odd, I removed the problem package and it completely removed all of them for g++ but, I tried to do a  sudo apt-get install build-essential and I got this, hold for paste
[02:11] <Dr_Willis> resno:  i rarely have the issue. I dont use nano normally either.
[02:11] <DasFlo> I am trying a Dual Boot - Windows 7 and Ubuntu 9.10 64bit. Windows is on my internal hdd, Ubuntu is on an external hdd. The external hdd has 900GB ntfs for general storage, 100GB ext4 for / and 4GB swap. Grub is installed on the external hdd. I can choose a OS in grub. Windows loads fine. If I chose Ubuntu, the system immediately freezes
[02:11] <Dr_Willis> resno:  i use vi or geany
[02:11] <almark1> jrib: http://paste.ubuntu.com/372164/
[02:11] <DasFlo> The live cd runs fine, btw...
[02:13] <Dr_Willis> resno:  if that file existed befor for the user.. i imagine it wouldent of had its permissions being owned by root.
[02:13] <speme> DasFlo, paste your /boot/grub/grub.cfg
[02:13] <ZykoticK9> DasFlo, if Grub really is installed on the external (which by what you describe i don't think it is) you'd have to use a (BIOS) Key at boot to select to boot from external HD...
[02:14] <speme> DasFlo, I mean your set the wrong disk
[02:14] <Dr_Willis> DasFlo:  also edit the grub line at boot to have 'nosplash' and 'nofb' at the end of the kernel options so yoyu can see all the error messages.  that may help. Very likely the system is looking in the wrong place for the files to boot.
[02:14] <Dr_Willis> DasFlo:  like speme  said. - I never use a external hd. :) but i do know it can cause issues.
[02:15] <DasFlo> It has to be on the external HDD. If I unplug the external HDD or set the boot order in Bios to boot the internal hdd first, I go straight to windows
[02:15] <Dr_Willis> DasFlo:  when Installing to a EXTERNAL hd - thers some quirks with grub that one has to watch out for.
[02:15] <littlegirl> DasFlo: Can you boot Ubuntu in recovery mode?
[02:15] <LogicalDash> I have Compiz set up to zoom in, but I also have some applications with windows larger than my tiny netbook screen, and I'd like to zoom out on those sometimes. How I do this?
[02:15] <Dr_Willis> DasFlo:  because of how the installer works/sees the drives and how they change when you boot from the external hd.
[02:16] <Dr_Willis> DasFlo:  grub basically nees to be told to look on the right drive
[02:16] <Dr_Willis> DasFlo:  when bootintg from external HD vs internal the 'order' of the drives change - so it can confuse things
[02:16] <DasFlo> I think I'm going to boot from the live cd now and come back afterwards. Since I'm on W7 right now I can't really do much
[02:17] <DasFlo> littlegirl: I'll try recovery mode first
[02:17] <Dr_Willis> DasFlo:  check out the grub menus and how to edit the grub command lines - you canproberly change some hd0,0 to be hd0,1 or somthing and get it working
[02:18] <DasFlo> Dr_Willis: I'll do that, too. Sec, rebooting...
[02:18] <semitones> Question: If I install Ubuntu Studio's real time kernel and patches, will that stop the audio from stuttering when the CPU is under heavy load?
[02:18] <duke_> hi just small question wanna change my window manager and doesnt work i typed in ~/.xinitrc  exec /home/duke/.cabal/bin/xmonad
[02:18] <duke_> and i tried without exec
[02:18] <semitones> on a slowish computer
[02:19] <Dr_Willis> duke_:  how are you starting up X ?
[02:19] <duke_> ehm autostart
[02:20] <Dr_Willis> duke_:  if you mean Via GDM - then you need to use a gdm desktop session to launch the right window manager
[02:20] <ZykoticK9> duke_, you'd probably have to use "startx" for it to look at your .xinitrc file
[02:20] <Dr_Willis> duke_:  there used to be a 'xsession' gdm session that ran stuff from .xsession or .xinitrc i think
[02:20] <Dr_Willis> duke_:  or just not use gdm and use 'startx' that should run whats in .xinitrc
[02:22] <LavaEagle> I ahve a laptop that is going to be dedicated to just watching movies, hulu stuff like that anyone got an idea for a good OS, LXDE? Mandrake? Crunchbang? Kubuntu
[02:22] <happyface> how can I reinstall the default wifi drivers that come with Karmic?
[02:22] <srv> How can I install updates using the shell, instead of using the Update Manager?
[02:23] <ZykoticK9> srv, "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade"
[02:23] <blakkheim> srv: replace upgrade with "full-upgrade"
[02:24] <nn-laptop> Hi all,  I cant seem to ever encode a video format windows can use .. :(   anyhow .. I need an opinion on my gimp logo animation .. and weather or not its actually playable by other linux geeks http://fs.userbin.net/gimp.mpeg
[02:25] <blakkheim> !ot | nn-laptop
[02:25] <Dr_Willis> LavaEagle:  mythbuntu, or aboyut anything will work..  theres dozens of media players also
[02:25] <srv> ykoticK9, blakkheim, thank you
[02:26] <Dr_Willis>  nn-laptop  install the proper codecs -or players I guess.  I rarely have any issues with videos on linux/windows.
[02:26] <astrocub> i have a 64bit processor, but opted for the 32bit ubuntu. i'm downloading intel's integrated performance primitives library, do i choose intel 64 for ia-32?
[02:26] <Dr_Willis> astrocub:  32bit os = use 32
[02:26] <blakkheim> astrocub: ia-32
[02:26] <Dr_Willis> I would of opted for teh 64bit OS to begin with
[02:26] <blakkheim> depends on how much ram he has
[02:27] <Dr_Willis> I dont worry about the ram. I go 64bit even if i got 1gb of ram
[02:27] <blakkheim> why?
[02:27] <rww> why not?
[02:27] <Dr_Willis> benchmarks do show that 64bit even with 1gb ram IS faster in many cases..
[02:28] <Dr_Willis> and i only need one apt-cache server to hold all the 64bit packages.  sine the rest of the lan is all 64bit
[02:28] <blakkheim> rww: no advantages, some things are incompatible, binaries are more bloated
[02:28] <Dr_Willis> blakkheim:  ive not seen that to be the case.
[02:28] <ZykoticK9> What is the "sudo apt-get full-upgrade"?  pattern not found in "man apt-get"
[02:28] <Dr_Willis> and i have seen.read of advantages
[02:28] <blakkheim> Dr_Willis: i have :(
[02:28] <rww> blakkheim: no advantages to 32-bit, I've never seen any incompatibility or bloat
[02:28] <Dr_Willis> I can thionk of one binary i have that dosent work on 54bit
[02:28] <rww> ZykoticK9: something that doesn't exist
[02:28] <rww> ZykoticK9: whoever told you full-upgrade was thinking of aptitude
[02:29] <ZykoticK9> rww, thanks
[02:29] <matrixfox> well ya thats the whole point of 64bit
[02:29] <Das-Flo> Ok I'm back and on a live session
[02:29] <elpargo> hi, if I want to write a program that will run "forever" listening to a streaming api (http1.1) will it be better to make a service out of it? or should I stick with a daemon?
[02:29] <Das-Flo> can I paste grub.cfg now?
[02:29] <bbelt16ag> hey peeps are there apps that can clean up my music folders seriously its like i got 02-pearljam 01 07
[02:29] <bbelt16ag> weird  crap
[02:29] <Dr_Willis> elpargo:  a service normally runs stuff as demons..  so it dosent really matter.
[02:30] <astrocub> thank you Dr_Willis and blakkheim
[02:30] <ZykoticK9> bbelt16ag, easytag can bulk rename based on tags (if your tags are correct)
[02:31] <gsgleason> bbelt, you  can also make a shell or perl script for that.
[02:31] <elpargo> Dr_Willis: from the little I have read about upstart all I have to do is build a script. does my process needs to know how to be a daemon?
[02:32] <Das-Flo> Dr_Willis: I think you asked for the contents of grub.cfg, right? I have it now
[02:32] <Dr_Willis> Das-Flo:  wasent me.. but you can pastebun it for others to look at.
[02:33] <Dr_Willis> elpargo:  i am lazy and just run things from rc.local you couldmake your program restart if it exits/ctrashes if you wanted to
[02:33] <srv> Shall I use "sudo apt-get upgrade" or "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" or sudo apt-get full-upgrade", to get the Update Manager functionality in the shell?
[02:33] <Das-Flo> Dr_Willis: Oh, sorry. "Pastebin it" - ok, I'll quickly find out what that means and do so
[02:33] <Dr_Willis> elpargo:  thats all a demon does.
[02:33] <Dr_Willis> !pastebinit | Das-Flo
[02:33] <bbelt16ag> no not  tages  folders
[02:33] <bbelt16ag> stupid  folders i hate itunes i got to make  everything read only to keep it from  touching  crud
[02:33] <ZykoticK9> srv, "sudo apt-get full-upgrade" doesn't exist
[02:33] <elpargo> Dr_Willis: that is what I really need the "always up"
[02:33] <Dr_Willis> Das-Flo:  cat /path/to.file | pastebinit
[02:34] <Dr_Willis> elpargo:  i never bothered with that stuff. so not sure whats the best way
[02:34] <elpargo> Dr_Willis: I see. ok thanks.
[02:34] <igie> help please: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1401258
[02:36] <ben__> planning new pc. does nvidia or radeon have better support for ubuntu?
[02:36] <ZykoticK9> ben__, go nvidia
[02:36] <ouyes> yes , since 9.10
[02:37] <ben__> thank you
[02:37] <gsgleason> igie, have you tried sftp command line?
[02:37] <ouyes> ben__, but nvidia seems to get better support in old versions of ubuntu , 10.04 will be good for both i think
[02:37] <daz0191> hello i am having trouble with dual monitors in 9.10, when i unclick mirror screens in desplay settings my monitors go black, i am using a thinkpad t60 with crappy intel graphics,worked fine on fc12 as an extended desktop
[02:38] <ZykoticK9> ben__, especially if your thinking 10.04 go nvidia
[02:38] <ouyes> ZykoticK9, why?
[02:38] <igie> gsgleason: no i'm not sure how. But the purpose of this share is to share with family in a totally different country. They all use Windows.
[02:38] <gsgleason> is ubuntu.com not working for anyone else or is it just me?
[02:39] <blakkheim> gsgleason: http://www.downforeveryoneorjustme.com
[02:39] <LavaEagle> blakkheim: lol
[02:39] <ben__> k
[02:39] <ouyes> gsgleason,  me too
[02:39] <gsgleason> igie: sometimes it's easier to see an issue using a more simple client.
[02:39] <ZykoticK9> ouyes, 10.04 has both OS nouveau support + special support for nvidia proprietary driver(s) - you have 3 simultaneously installed and can choose which one to use
[02:40] <gsgleason> igie: try it with sftp.
[02:40] <ouyes> gsgleason,   just slow but can work
[02:40] <igie> gsgleason: I will give it a shot.
[02:40] <ZykoticK9> ouyes, see http://www.ubuntu.com/testing/lucid/alpha2 for some more details
[02:40] <ben__> man wish there was better support for a htpc
[02:41] <gsgleason> igie: open a terminal and type: sftp username@hostname
[02:41] <ZykoticK9> ben__, mythbuntu?  what do you mean?
[02:41] <ben__> i mean with blu ray
[02:42] <tomatoes6_> when i use wine to run diablo 2, it makes my screen colors all funky, and once i quit, my colors are still funky, any ideas how to get my colors back to normal?
[02:42] <daz0191> now i can get my monitors working up and down but not left to right, any ideas?
[02:42] <igie> gsgleason: I get the error: "Read from remote host igie: Connection reset by peer
[02:42] <igie> Couldn't read packet: Connection reset by peer"
[02:42] <Das-Flo> alright, my grub.conf: http://pastebin.com/m53a5d6eb
[02:42] <ouyes> ZykoticK9, en thanks, i am now using thinkpad t400 and a ati card with a driver installed by envy-gt, it works good , sometime DIY a PC, nvidia's card is the first choice
[02:43] <ouyes> gsgleason, nvidia is the first choice
[02:43] <gsgleason> igie, what is the user's home directory on the server?
[02:43] <fk_007> so i have been using xubuntu for about a month now and all the sudden when i log in it loads for a minute then kicks me back to the login screen again :(
[02:43] <Das-Flo> set root=(hd2,2) looks about right to me :/
[02:43] <ouyes> fk_007, which version of release are you running?
[02:43] <Jef91> Anyone know of a good FOSS calender program for Ubuntu that is like M$ Outlook's calender? Just put Mint on my girlfriend's laptop and she wants one
[02:44] <Viper1432> fk_007,  is your hard disk full?  seen that issue occur with no space left.
[02:44] <fk_007> onyes: 9.1
[02:44] <happyface> asiodj
[02:44] <gsgleason> jef, what about the evolution calendar?
[02:44] <gsgleason> or thunderbird?
[02:44] <igie> gsgleason: its a separate internal disk /media/Media/Public
[02:45] <myownserver> Does anyone have any suggestions on how to make the "Share" option re-appear when I right click on a directory?
[02:45] <gsgleason> igie, make sure the home directory matches your chroot dir
[02:45] <myownserver> It disappeared and I don't know how to make it come back.
[02:45] <igie> gsgleason: I made the the home directory of the new user I added to the system
[02:45] <MadRush> can someone help me with the MV command?
[02:45] <igie> gsgleason: thats the thing.. It matches perfectly.
[02:45] <blakkheim> MadRush: "man mv" can
[02:46] <meowbuntu> hi i am wanting to know how to make the embedding area of my external hdd bigger so i can install grub 2 on it
[02:46] <acclaimtech> Hello
[02:46] <myownserver> So far I've tried restarting the computer and completely re-installing samba, but neither helped.
[02:46] <acclaimtech> Is there a utility that will show you the progress of files copied using SSH?
[02:46] <blakkheim> acclaimtech: scp
[02:46] <meowbuntu> hi i am wanting to know how to make the embedding area of my external hdd bigger so i can install grub 2 on it /join #ubuntu
[02:46] <myownserver> I've searched, but I cannot find what it relys on or why it wouldn't be showing.
[02:46] <acclaimtech> yes but doesn't SCP move the data to your workstation and then back to the server?
[02:46] <gsgleason> acclaimtech: scp will do this by default.
[02:47] <Das-Flo> Ubuntu still won
[02:47] <Das-Flo> won
[02:47] <srv> If there is a new distribution of Ubuntu available, will "apt-get dist-upgrade" upgrade to that new version (e.g. from Jaunty to Karmic)?
[02:47] <blakkheim> acclaimtech: can copy to and from
[02:47] <myownserver> I clicked on it and vamoos, GONE!
[02:47] <blakkheim> srv: no
[02:47] <acclaimtech> ok but I need one that doesn't copy through my workstation
[02:47] <LordValiumSleeps> I have skype but I dont get incoming video. All I have is a gray screen. Skype appears to think I'm getting video because it gives me the option to turn off incoming video
[02:47] <acclaimtech> just go from server to server
[02:47] <blakkheim> srv: you want do-release-upgrade
[02:47] <srv> blakkheim, thx
[02:47] <acclaimtech> or raid array to raid array
[02:47] <srv> blakkheim, hmm
[02:47] <fk_007> Viper1432: had to go check the space used, used the terminal command df and it said 19% was used
[02:47] <Das-Flo> won't boot from my external hdd. I have no idea what to change in grub.conf. Any ideas? http://pastebin.com/m53a5d6eb
[02:48] <myownserver> I can't believe I can't find anything on google about this.  Surely I'm not the first to encounter this issue.
[02:48] <Viper1432> it was just a stab at the issue fk_007 .  that wouldn't be the issue then.
[02:49] <Viper1432> fk_007,  something might have gotten corrupted...I've seen that with video drivers flaming out before.  you might want to reinstall "desktop" from aptitude in a terminal.  Could just be something got wasted.
[02:50] <lostinspace_46> When running " ./configure " for pidgin-2.6.5 I get this message (XScreenSaver extension development headers not found.  Use --disable-screensaver).  Self explanatory I know.  My problem is (no laughing) I can't figure out the syntax.
[02:50] <fk_007> Viper1432: very well could be, i had an issue no to long ago with the drivers, it went into safe graphics mode, but then when i rebooted it was fine, for a while
[02:51] <Viper1432> Yeah fk_007  as long as your /home is backed up, I' just reinstall the xubuntu_desktop stuff as a check.  Settings and apps should stay the same as long as /home isn't borked.
[02:51] <acclaimtech> Ok so how does SCP work?
[02:52] <blakkheim> acclaimtech: man scp
[02:52] <tule> lostinspace_46: you should just insert the --disable-screensaver after ./configure and your filename
[02:52] <fk_007> Viper1432: so do you mean install it again from the disk or how might i do it in the terminal
[02:52] <ZykoticK9> lostinspace_46, considered just adding the Pidgin Developers PPA instead of compiling?  just a thought.
[02:52] <Das-Flo> Should I just randomly change the numbers in grub.cfg?
[02:52] <tule> lostinspace_46: should have said and BEFORE your filename
[02:53] <cremaster> hi folks, i dont have an asound folder under /proc - i'm on karmic, is this normal?
[02:53] <Viper1432> fk_007,  from a terminal you could do aptitude install xubuntu-desktop to reinstall all the basic xubuntu stuff.
[02:53] <Dr_Willis> acclaimtech:  scp works much like cp only it can take host/username as options to copy stuff to/from remote machines
[02:53] <ZykoticK9> blakkheim, could you please stop telling everyone who asks a question to "man X" it's similar to RTFM
[02:53] <Dr_Willis> with scp and ssh - it IS worth reading the man pages.
[02:53] <fk_007> Viper1432: cool man i appreciate your help, i'll try that
[02:53] <Dr_Willis> scp --help also has a good summary
[02:54] <lostinspace_46> ZykoticK9, I tried that.  I am having some issues using the PPA
[02:54] <Viper1432> fk_007,  as long as your net connection is good (which it should be if you're getting to the login), reinstalling via apt or aptitude on the cmd line is easy.
[02:54] <Viper1432> and no problem and good luck fk_007
[02:54] <blakkheim> ZykoticK9: yeah, it's the "nice way" of saying that
[02:54] <ZykoticK9> blakkheim, well it's not really very "nice"
[02:54] <blakkheim> ZykoticK9: nicer than the alternative
[02:54] <wolfie1> hello
[02:54] <Dr_Willis> Das-Flo:  You could learn how grub works and the commnd line for it. and try changeing  the hd#'# from the grub command line till you find an entry that works.
[02:54] <gsgleason> when it's clear they haven't read the man page it's perfectly appropriate.
[02:54] <wolfie1> I need help with mp3
[02:55] <ZykoticK9> lostinspace_46, what issue?  if you're on Karmic it should only be a "sudo add-apt-repository ppa:pidgin-developers/ppa" then "sudo apt-get install pidgin" and you're done
[02:55] <lostinspace_46> tule, configure is the filename
[02:55] <wolfie1> I need to recode some mp3 from 128 to 96
[02:55] <blakkheim> wolfie1: try ffmpeg
[02:55] <wolfie1> with lame, the problem is that, in the process, all the id3tag is lost
[02:55] <wolfie1> any idea? :(
[02:55] <Das-Flo> Dr_Willis: Yes, I understand that I'll have to edit that file. However, I'm working from a live cd here and I heard not to manually edit stuff into grub.cfg?
[02:55] <wolfie1> ffmpeg will keep the id3?
[02:55] <Duskin> Does ubuntu support ssh?
[02:55] <tule> lostinspace_46: i thought you were trying to compile something. no?
[02:56] <Spanglish_7776> yes duskin
[02:56] <gsgleason> wolfie, make a shell script to read the tags for a file saved as variables, reencode, then set the tags.
[02:56] <srv> Duskin, yes it does
[02:56] <Duskin> Is ssh always running or is there a command to turn it on?
[02:56] <wolfie1> mmmh.... good idea, thanks gsgleason
[02:57] <Trek> Duskin, it should run upon boot automatically
[02:57] <Spanglish_7776> Duskin, is it installed?
[02:57] <lostinspace_46> ZykoticK9, My Synaptic isn't adding repos correctly
[02:57] <Duskin> Spanglish_7776: no idea
[02:57] <myownserver> No one?
[02:57] <Spanglish_7776> sudo apt-get install openssh-server
[02:57] <srv> Duskin: apt-cache search ssh
[02:57] <Spanglish_7776> that will install it
[02:57] <Das-Flo> The whole disk is apparently read only from live
[02:58] <Duskin> What ports do I need to forward for ssh?
[02:58] <Spanglish_7776> 22
[02:58] <Duskin> Thanks all
[02:58] <myownserver> Freaking Ubuntu has pissed me off all day long and now this.
[02:58] <Trek> or, Duskin...
[02:58] <Trek> have it point to a custom port for extra security
[02:58] <lostinspace_46> tule, the program is pidgin-2.6.5 the file to run is configure
[02:58] <trineox> Duskin, like Spanglish advised...openssh server is real good....get in synaptic or apt-get install.
[02:58] <cremaster> alsa is supposed to write logs during bootup to /proc/asound but i dont have this asound folder, is it always there?
[02:59] <srv> Duskin: yeah, that'd be a safer practice
[02:59] <skullcandy> does anyone know of a easy to use keylogger for ubuntu?
[02:59] <acclaimtech> ok that's not working
[02:59] <Duskin> How do I change the port ssh uses?
[02:59] <Trek> Duskin: when you conbfigure the SSH config file, make sure you specify either port 22 or port <SomeOtherPortNumberHere>
[02:59] <Trek> in the config file, Duskin...
[02:59] <blakkheim> running ssh on a nonstandard port only lessens the amount of automated attempts to break in, it doesn't actually increase security
[02:59] <acclaimtech> Anything like an FTP client for SSH?
[02:59] <Duskin> Ah ok
[02:59] <blakkheim> acclaimtech: sftp, built into openssh
[02:59] <Trek> blakkheim, it helps to prevent auto-connectors from finding it
[03:00] <ZykoticK9> acclaimtech, gftp support ssh
[03:00] <blakkheim> Duskin: /etc/ssh/sshd_config
[03:00] <Das-Flo> How can I save changes to my hdd installation from a live cd session? says it's read only
[03:00] <trineox> Blakkheim unless your isp blocks the general port as well
[03:00] <tule> lostinspace_46: yes, I know. So, from the shell, ./configure --disable-screensaver
[03:00] <blakkheim> trineox: this is also a possibility, didn't think of that
[03:00] <mac9416> acclaimtech, I believe Nautilus works as an SFTP client.
[03:01] <trineox> Blakkheim i run ipcop for my router and had to change its port due to that. took me forever to figure it out lol
[03:01] <Duskin> Are the commands for dash the same as bash?
[03:01] <srv> acclaimtech, filezilla supports for sftp, I'm using it for SourceForge.net
[03:01] <ZykoticK9> Duskin, yup
[03:02] <lostinspace_46> tule, I think I did that, but let me try again
[03:02] <ZykoticK9> Duskin, or at least 95%
[03:03] <Duskin> is there a way to use bash instead of dash?
[03:04] <Flannel> Duskin: You're currently using bash as a shell, dash is your default sh
[03:05] <pawan> hi
[03:05] <Duskin> Ah ok thanks everyone
[03:05] <Spanglish_7776> np duskin
[03:05] <trineox> ur welcome duskin always happy to help :-)
[03:05] <ZykoticK9> Duskin, oh darn, Flannel is correct i was getting /bin/sh and /bin/bash confused sorry - Flannel is correct, i'm all mixed up...
[03:09] <acclaimtech> thanks
[03:09] <acclaimtech> ;)
[03:13] <lostinspace_46> tule, I run "./configure --disable-screensaver" and get "Startup notification development headers not found.  Use --disable-startup-notification."  I run "./configure --disable-startup-notification" I get "XScreenSaver extension development headers not found. Use --disable-screensaver"  ???
[03:14] <kaz> I just installed Kubuntu 9.10 and Compiz-fusion, and whenver I use the desktop cube in compiz, it only shows that I have 2 desktops eventhough I try to set it to 4 everywhere else. When I use expo, it shows 4 desktops, but I can only use two for the desktop cube and when pressing Ctrl+Alt+left/right. How can I make it use all 4?
[03:14] <Stefanie> I am new
[03:15] <ZykoticK9> kaz, perhaps a question best asked in #kubuntu
[03:15] <Stefanie> hello word
[03:16] <kaddi> hello Stefanie :)
[03:16] <kaz> Ok, thanks.
[03:16] <ZykoticK9> Stefanie, do you have a question?  if so please ask.  if you're just looking to chat try #ubuntu-offtopic
[03:16] <Stefanie> how to play vides
[03:17] <Stefanie> yehh
[03:17] <becker_11> I want to use ssh to connect to my home box from work how can I secure my home machine properly
[03:18] <Stefanie> my Ubutu  can not play films
[03:18] <soreau> kaz: Dual screens?
[03:19] <Stefanie> yes
[03:19] <trineox> Stefanie u mean dvd's?
[03:19] <Stefanie> no
[03:19] <ZykoticK9> Stefanie, have you install ubuntu-restricted-extras?  what player are you using?  can you give any additional details
[03:19] <Stefanie> rmvb
[03:20] <kaz> soreau: I've hooked my computer up to a second monitor before, but right now it only has one.
[03:21] <soreau> kaz: Well, you can /msg FusioBot cube or viewports or, you can just come to #compiz and we can help you there
[03:21] <trineox> becker_11 ssh is secure , i would suggest using openssh server on your home machine
[03:22] <Stefanie> I down the Kmplay.but i do not know how to use
[03:22] <ZykoticK9> becker_11, be sure your user account has a strong password (think pass-sentence)
[03:22] <becker_11> trineox: I am running openssh server my problem is the port is visable during a port scan does that cause a problem
[03:22] <becker_11> ZykoticK9: thanks thats a good idea
[03:22] <trineox> becker_11 are you using a router?
[03:22] <ZykoticK9> becker_11, MANY MANY people are going to try and break into your ssh - thus the pass-sentence suggestion
[03:23] <Stefanie> i want to know that are you all Chinese?
[03:23] <becker_11> trineox: yeah wired router
[03:23] <becker_11> ZykoticK9: okay
[03:23] <trineox> becker, along with what zykotick9 said..also i suggest using nonstandard port as well
[03:23] <Stefanie>  i want to know that are you are  all Chinese?
[03:23] <becker_11> trineox: okay I'm off to strengthen my password
[03:23] <jack5463> Stefanie, no
[03:24] <ZykoticK9> Stefanie, what does that have to do with anything?
[03:24] <trineox> becker, well i would ? your router it should stealth/ half open your port so its not seen.
[03:24] <trineox> becker_11 good luck :-)
[03:25] <Stefanie> it's my first time to chat in here
[03:27] <isolat3dsh33p> hey guys, does the gui for nautilus changed? D:
[03:27]  * unixalot has arrived
[03:27] <Stefanie> Are you all old user who were using Ubuntu?
[03:27] <unixalot> Stefanie: eh??
[03:28]  * unixalot is downloading gimphoto cause its a lot better than gimp
[03:28] <Stefanie> I mean you have used Ubuntu for long time,right?
[03:29] <q0_0p> anyone know why pid cli is running going to this ip address? <IP_ADDRESS>:80?
[03:29] <unixalot> Stefanie: For a bit lol.
[03:29] <q0_0p> anyone know why pid cli is running going to this ip address? <IP_ADDRESS>:80?
[03:30] <jkthecjer> hey all
[03:30] <jkthecjer> having trouble creating multiple interfaces on an atheros card (orinoco silver)
[03:30] <Stefanie> unixalot ,you are not in China now?
[03:30] <jkthecjer> it worked earlier today, so its possible
[03:31] <jkthecjer> but since then (even after restart), its failing
[03:31] <ZykoticK9> Stefanie, why do you think everyone is in China?
[03:31] <jkthecjer> sudo wlanconfig ath1 create wlandev wifi0 wlanmode ap
[03:31] <jkthecjer> wlanconfig: ioctl: Input/output error
[03:31] <jkthecjer> any ideas?
[03:31] <Stefanie> guess
[03:31] <meowbuntu> how do i set up my mic i cant get it working
[03:32] <ZykoticK9> Stefanie, i hightly doubt many people in this channel are in china - there is a specific chinese channel (not this one)
[03:32] <Flamekebab> Suggestions on fixing a hard disk running JFS that fsck won't check due to corrupted superblocks?
[03:33] <Stefanie> may it be.Are you Chinese?
[03:34] <mehheh> twas me there
[03:34] <GSF1200S> so I do a kernel update, and X fails to load on reboot. I try activating the drivers through jockey in low graphics mode, and while X works, glxinfo returns segfault and glxgears doesnt work. Then, I decide to gdm stop and install the nvidia binary from the website. It tells me permission denied, whether run as user, sudo (root), or even logging in as root to run
[03:34] <meowbuntu> how do i set up my mic i cant get it working
[03:34] <Stefanie> ZykoticK9,Are you Chinese
[03:35] <ZykoticK9> !cn | Stefanie
[03:35] <ZykoticK9> Stefanie, no
[03:35] <meowbuntu> !mic
[03:35] <meowbuntu> !microphone
[03:35] <Trek> !audio
[03:35] <q0_0p> anyone know why pid cli is running going to this ip address? <IP_ADDRESS>:80?
[03:35] <Stefanie> and where are you come from
[03:35] <GSF1200S> if anyone has any ideas about my above issue, that would be great.. because otherwise im going back to arch.. this is bs
[03:36] <Trek> q0_0p: we couldn't knwo.  But it looks like an HTTP outbound/inbound connection
[03:36] <Trek> q0_0p: firefox?
[03:36] <q0_0p> Trek, only happens when i start internet
[03:36] <GSF1200S> im running plain jain xubuntu and ive had more crashes on it in the last 2 weeks than I ever had on arch
[03:36] <q0_0p> Trek, it only happens once
[03:36] <q0_0p> Trek, it stops after the first time
[03:36] <Trek> q0_0p: loading of the firefox start screen
[03:36] <Trek> q0_0p: thats my guess
[03:36] <q0_0p> Trek, i c
[03:37] <gamerx> hey
[03:37] <q0_0p> Trek, but if it was using firefox it would've showd up in the pid name
[03:37] <CryptoMole> I have a question about running older versions of ubuntu like edgy eft can you still do it ?
[03:37] <q0_0p> Trek, in netstat
[03:37] <gamerx> can someone help setting up darkice shoutcast server
[03:37] <q0_0p> Trek, it shows up as pid program cli
[03:37] <isolat3dsh33p> guys, how to check if elementary nautilus has replaced old nautilus? Besides the different looks?
[03:38] <ZykoticK9> CryptoMole, you could install them from their ISOs but there wouldn't be updates / repositories for you to add software with... kinda useless really
[03:38] <gamerx> its giving me this error DarkIce: TcpSocket.cpp:248: connect error [111]
[03:38] <CryptoMole> see I thought I read that somewhere.
[03:38] <Trek> q0_0p: that might mean CommandLineInterface
[03:39] <CryptoMole> sucks
[03:39] <q0_0p> Trek, u think something bad is going on?
[03:39] <gamerx> my darfice config is here: http://pastebin.com/f12493d0c
[03:39] <Trek> q0_0p: that the destination IP?
[03:39] <q0_0p> Trek, one sec
[03:39] <q0_0p> Trek, yes
[03:40] <CryptoMole> ok has anyone had any luck installing xmms from source on ubuntu?
[03:40] <gamerx> help!?!
[03:40] <ZykoticK9> CryptoMole, audacious is "almost" the same as xmms was
[03:41] <Trek> q0_0p, not sure, its not a site that responds to HTTP requests
[03:41] <q0_0p> Trek, i went to the site nothing strangely to say
[03:41] <q0_0p> Trek, so i am confused
[03:41] <Trek> it hits errors, it could be a security threat could be nothing
[03:41] <CryptoMole> well it does not act like xmms in one respect
[03:42] <q0_0p> Trek, i guess best just block the IP
[03:42] <ZykoticK9> q0_0p, you can "whois $IPADDRESS" < i have no idea who they are
[03:42] <CryptoMole> which is show my song playing the bitrate frame by frame
[03:42] <Trek> q0_0p: yeah, and if an error/issue arises from that, then its easily reversible
[03:42] <ZykoticK9> CryptoMole, xmms is OLD man
[03:43] <CryptoMole> it worked
[03:43] <ZykoticK9> CryptoMole, oh i used to use it all the time (for years)
[03:43] <CryptoMole> and im old that dont me im obsolete
[03:44] <ZykoticK9> CryptoMole, and i don't like xmms2 at all
[03:44] <CryptoMole> all i want is a solution to the audatious problem
[03:45] <CryptoMole> show the bitrate for my flac files frame by frame
[03:45] <ZykoticK9> CryptoMole, have you tried bmpx?  i haven't, but its also suppose to be similar accorting to !xmms
[03:46] <CryptoMole> not yet heard of it
[03:46] <ZykoticK9> CryptoMole, you have one very specific requirement there!
[03:47] <kameron> i'm trying to access my ext4 partition through third party drivers in windows xp. currenty nothing reads from ext4. is there a way to downgrade-convert my partition to ext3 or cripple ext4 enough that win will read it?
[03:47] <CryptoMole> ZykoticK9: hey xmms did this on its own with all my wav and .flac files
[03:47] <xangua> format¿ :S
[03:47] <LavaEagle> Does Xubuntu support xsf?
[03:48] <CryptoMole> ZykoticK9: thanks for trying to help.
[03:48] <kameron> LavaEagle, xfs?
[03:48] <DrDamnit> Trying to install unixODBC for use with PostgreSQL on Ubuntu 9.10 server. Getting error: ]Can't open lib '/usr/lib/libodbcpsql.so'
[03:49] <LavaEagle> XSF something like that it is similar to ext4 kind of thing
[03:49] <ZykoticK9> CryptoMole, i hope you find a suitable alternative
[03:49] <kameron> LavaEagle, xfs. and yes it does.
[03:49] <CryptoMole> yeah me too.
[03:49] <LavaEagle> xfs
[03:49] <LavaEagle> ty
[03:49] <LavaEagle> Is it worth it to go to that format?
[03:49] <kameron> it depends on what you're doing with your system.
[03:49] <CryptoMole> proably end  up messing with audatious.
[03:49] <kameron> i'd reccomend reading a comparison of linux filesystems.
[03:49] <LavaEagle> for high transfers of files
[03:50] <LavaEagle> I believe thats what it's for
[03:50] <LavaEagle> amirite?
[03:50] <DrDamnit> Trying to install unixODBC for use with PostgreSQL on Ubuntu 9.10 server. Getting error: ]Can't open lib '/usr/lib/libodbcpsql.so' can anyone help?
[03:51] <kameron> LavaEagle, you should read up on XFS, JFS, ReiserFS, ext4, etc and compare them for yourself. i can't tell you which is best for you.
[03:52] <CryptoMole> ZykoticK9: hey bpmx only for ubuntu?
[03:52] <q0_0p> DrDamnit, i dont know if this is correct but i would've sudo updatedb; locate thelib.so then link it to '/usr/lib/whereever ?
[03:53] <ZykoticK9> CryptoMole, ? no idea -- i doubt it, if it's in ubuntu usually mean i can run on any linux
[03:53] <CryptoMole> is it the same as beep media player
[03:54] <ZykoticK9> CryptoMole, OH YA - that's probably what it is!
[03:54] <CryptoMole> dropped from repo's
[03:54] <CryptoMole> debian
[03:54] <DrDamnit> @g0_0p: the ilb doesn't exist. It's supposed to be in the unixODBC package for postgres, but it's not there. Was it renamed? Dunno. What do you think?
[03:54] <ZykoticK9> !xmms | CryptoMole
[03:55] <ZykoticK9> CryptoMole, ^ that's where i got it from
[03:55] <akoimeexx> Anyone know where I can find the device path for my mic input? /dev/dsp Doesn't seem to be working with XVidCap Screen Capture on an HP Mini, though I get feedback fine from the sound settings using Line In.
[03:55] <LavaEagle> kameron: btw i am now reading
[03:56] <kameron> LavaEagle, good
[03:56] <CryptoMole> I use lenny and beep media play is not in our standard repo.
[03:56] <iflema> CryptoMole may i ask why you want/need an older version of ubuntu... whats your limitation(s)
[03:56] <ZykoticK9> CryptoMole, if you're using Lenny, why are you here?  wouldn't #debian be a better place?
[03:57] <ZykoticK9> CryptoMole, i search in ubuntu's repo it isn't here either
[03:57] <CryptoMole> i wanted it because it was built on etch technology basicaly
[03:57] <CryptoMole> and the repos were from etch
[03:57] <DrDamnit> Where can I get libodbcpsql.so
[03:57] <DrDamnit> ?
[03:57] <CryptoMole> in other terms
[03:58] <ryanprior> Is there any diff viewer for Gnome that works across GIO or SSH, so I can sync my local development directory to my server?
[03:59] <CryptoMole> I i liked the older edgy because it had xmms and the older audacity mad madman etc
[03:59] <ZykoticK9> CryptoMole, good luck man - i'm off to watch some TV for a while, hope you find a solution/alternative - or get XMMS going ;)  take care man
[03:59] <CryptoMole> thanks
[04:00] <CryptoMole> I give up
[04:00]  * iflema luved XMMS
[04:00] <CryptoMole> later
[04:01] <CryptoMole> iflema: me too
[04:02] <Jordan_U> ryanprior, GVFS mounts are accessible by any application if only through ~/.gvfs
[04:03] <Jordan_U> ryanprior, But if you really want to sync files for development you might consider using a revision control system like git
[04:04]  * iflema :*)
[04:07] <nixjr> ive recently replaced windows with ubuntu, all my data drives are ntfs, is there any benefit to converting these to ext3, and if so can it be done without loosing my data?
[04:07] <infid> is git easier to learn than svn?
[04:08] <ryanprior> infid: svn and git are different types of revision controls sytems. git is more modern.
[04:08] <i58> infid, not in my opinion
[04:08] <Demonous> Would anyone be aware of any public virtual private networks that any guest would be allowed to connect to?
[04:09] <ryanprior> nixjr: There is not much benefit to converting all your drives. However, if you buy new drives in the future, you can format them as ext4 or whatever's modern at that time (btrfs is coming up) and copy your data over.
[04:09] <Zer> Is there anything one needs to do to get Ubuntu to use traffic control (tc) settings?
[04:10] <Jordan_U> infid, IHMO yes, but there are many that would disagree
[04:11] <ryanprior> infid: as far as Ubuntu usage and development goes, we largely use Bazaar (bzr) which is more similar to git.
[04:11] <Jordan_U> infid, For just working with your own stuff http://spheredev.org/wiki/Git_for_the_lazy should be all you need
[04:11] <nixjr> ryanprior, since i keep different types on data on drifferent drives (photos, movies, msuic etc) is it possible to optimise a drive the specific data?
[04:12] <mrpink57> nixjr: certain types fo formats do things better xfs is great for large files
[04:12] <ryanprior> nixjr: good ole fat32 works quite well for a drive that contains only movies; ext3 or ntfs would both work well with photos or music.
[04:12] <ryanprior> nixjr: xfs would also be good for a movie drive, as mrpink57 suggests
[04:13] <artistx> keep in mind fat32 has a file size limit of 4g minus 1 byte.
[04:13] <mrpink57> i'd avoid ntfs is still using what 2001 gave usw
[04:13] <mrpink57> us
[04:13] <nixjr> artistx, ah in the case it would be no good, about 40% of my movies are hd now
[04:13] <vaelenn> Hi all!
[04:14] <gmachine_24> Greetings Earthlings. I got an error message which told me to restart nautilus and I found the command to quit nautilus - I think - being    >nautilus -q    but I could not find one to restart it and I read somewhere the computer should automatically restart nautilus but this did not happen.... so... any help please TIA
[04:14] <nixjr> would sharing between a linux and windows box, using etx3 and ntfs repectively, add considerable overhead to network transfers?
[04:15] <mrpink57> if they're hd files they are going to take a long time no matter what
[04:15] <vaelenn> I'm new to Ubuntu and just loaded it on my HP NC6000.  I tried to google for a command to install video driver (Intel) but can't find the proper command.  Any ideas?
[04:15] <LavaEagle> nixjr: It doesn't for me, I go between Ubuntu 9.04 and Windows home server 2008 on a N Router and stream videos absolutely fine
[04:16] <JULinuxUser_> I was told to add the repo found here https://launchpad.net/~philip5 What Repo? I don't see one. So I could get libavformat.so.52 for Audacity.
[04:16] <artistx> vaelenn, the package manager should have video codecs
[04:16] <pradeep> how to configure the boot options in karmic??
[04:17] <vaelenn> art:  package manager from add apps?
[04:17] <YangYin> how do i get networked printer working in ubuntu 8.04.4 server?
[04:17] <artistx> i just use the synaptic package manager in the menu.
[04:18] <artistx> vaellen,  the command you want is:  apt-get install
[04:18] <YangYin> artistx: with server there is no menu
[04:18] <artistx> sudo apt-get install
[04:18] <blakkheim> or aptitude instead of apt-get
[04:19] <artistx> I'm using the artistx distro with about 2500 multi-media tools already installed ; )
[04:20] <vaelenn> Thanks, trying...
[04:20] <roboboy> Stuuuupid question: how do you get ubuntu to install the man pages for all the standard C library functions (and maybe even the c++ functions?)
[04:21] <YangYin> roboboy: i thought those were in the -doc pacages
[04:22] <roboboy> hmm don't know the full name for that package, or how to search for it without getting signal to noise insanity :)
[04:23] <roboboy> oh I found a useful link on google nvm mind me
[04:23] <Flannel> roboboy: glibc-doc and manpages-dev
[04:23] <spenser> can anyone help me with apache.  I'm trying to setup pam auth using authnz_external and pwauth but I cant get it to work.  When I run sudo -u www-data pwauth; echo $? i get 0 but i just keep getting prompted for my password when I try to connect.
[04:24] <spenser> to the server
[04:24] <bobomomopopobob> SOUND help:  it looks like I'm loading the ALSA module twice.  Sound is having intermittent problems, and I've lost sound in firefox.   I can go to the multimedia control panel and play test sounds, but it fails sometimes.
[04:24] <roboboy> thanks flannel
[04:25] <jack5463> I've found it makes more sense to delete ubuntu and reload it than to ask here for solutions to an os that breaks often.
[04:26] <grumbly> Is anyone here familiar enough with gnome-shell to help me change some of its settings?
[04:27] <LavaEagle> jack5463: troll alert!
[04:27] <jack5463> usually no one has an answer that works correctly
[04:27] <LavaEagle> When you say something like that your looking for attention
[04:28] <jack5463> LavaEagle, really. I delete and reload rather than trying to fix it
[04:28] <grumbly> gnome-shell is pretty fantastic but there's some things I want to change- like the panel... and how the applications are displayed
[04:28] <bastid_raZor> LavaEagle: in all honesty.. jack5463 has a point.. this channel has lost more of the upper echelon people in the past few months.. now you have more of the people who have very little clue trying assist everyone.
[04:28] <vaelenn> OK, tried sudo apt-get install command, software center and still low res on my NC6000.  I'm definitively lost here.  Any other suggestions?
[04:29] <LavaEagle> When has just trying to help ever hurt anyone?
[04:29] <grumbly> vaelenn: I am not sure Xorg 7.4 supports that card any more.... I was having similar problems
[04:29] <ekim1> bastid_raZor, why have the "upper echelon people" leave??
[04:29] <mezquitale> !ot | bastid_raZor
[04:30] <LavaEagle> Plus I have received plenty of good help
[04:30] <gmachine_24> not to mention the free beer
[04:30] <bbelt16ag> ok how the heck do i turn off  auto mount for my  data disks.
[04:30] <bbelt16ag> my script is  breaking.
[04:31] <lukasz> jak za instalować direct x ?
[04:31] <mneptok> !pl | lukasz
[04:31] <gmachine_24> bbelt16ag you mean as in hard drives?
[04:31] <bbelt16ag> no Disks
[04:31] <vaelenn> grumby:  That will explain it.  It was worth tying...  Thanks for the info.
[04:31] <bbelt16ag> harddrive maybe a disk but i am talking dvds
[04:31] <gmachine_24> what kind of 'Disks'
[04:31] <vaelenn> i meant trying...
[04:31] <gmachine_24> oh.
[04:31] <mezquitale> jack5463, usually the best help comes from people who have experienced the same issue as you and log in and want to help, you dont need to be a "upper echelon" person to be of help.  If you find that no one in the room is able to help you then search in the forums, if it's a bug then search launchpad and/or file a bug report, then try the channel at another time
[04:32] <bbelt16ag> i want to mount my own  dvd thankyou very much
[04:32] <Jordan_U> bbelt16ag, What does your script do?
[04:32] <gmachine_24> how positively old school of you
[04:32] <grumbly> vaelenn: if you dont need compositing, the nuoveau ppa is pretty useable
[04:32] <bbelt16ag> reads my disk
[04:32] <bbelt16ag> its  bash script so mount /media/cdrom
[04:33] <jack5463> LavaEagle, i received good help too but I've run into so many problems sometimes i can't even explain what the problem is like I can get flash to run some video on youtube and not other video on youtube. would take me hours to straighten it out when it only takes an hour to delete it and reload
[04:33] <Jordan_U> bbelt16ag, So you want to disable auto mounting of DVDs because it breaks your script to auto mount DVDs?
[04:33] <bbelt16ag> no
[04:33] <grumbly> jack5463: I have been in the same situation, but there will come a time when that isnt a viable option...
[04:34] <bbelt16ag> my script mounts my dvd reads it and then put that info in a flat file  DB and then ejects the disk. rinse and repeat
[04:34] <grumbly> jack5463: and it's better Over All to know how to resolve such issues.
[04:34] <vaelenn> Remember:  vaelenn=newbie ..., what's nuoveau ppa?
[04:34] <LavaEagle> jack5463: haha ok I understand where your coming from, but once you do it once you know how to do it again right?
[04:34] <jack5463> grumbly, yes if i didn't have another os to use I'd be in trouble
[04:34] <mneptok> LavaEagle / jack5463: this is all off-topic
[04:35] <grumbly> mneptok: agreed
[04:35] <LavaEagle> Sorry
[04:35] <grumbly> so, can anyone help me out with gnome-shell
[04:35] <jack5463> mneptok, it's not really offtopic it's just ubuntu
[04:35] <ekim1> the easiest thing to do is to have at least two pc's.  Once for linux and one for searching issues.
[04:35] <mneptok> !offtopic > jack5463
[04:35] <ekim1> :D
[04:35] <grumbly> it is great, but it isn't quite right
[04:35] <Jordan_U> bbelt16ag, Can you just remove the mounting part of the script? umount and eject should still work fine.
[04:36] <bbelt16ag> i suppose i could try that.
[04:36] <LavaEagle> ekim1 agreed
[04:36] <jack5463> I saw it
[04:36] <bbelt16ag> lets see
[04:36] <mneptok> jack5463: this channel is for support for Ubuntu. not Ubuntu in general.
[04:36] <ryanprior> grumbly: gnome-shell is not supported in any version of Ubuntu yet.
[04:37] <gmachine_24> bbelt16ag go to "places" and choose cd/dvd creator andlook under >edit>preferences
[04:37] <jack5463> I really really wanted a viable os but ubuntu breaks down daily
[04:37] <mneptok> GNOME shell is also not supported in any stable release of GNOME
[04:37] <blakkheim> !troll | jack5463
[04:37] <gmachine_24> as in >edit>preferences>media
[04:37] <vaelenn> OK found an ubuntu driver for ATI Radeon 9600 on AMD.com.  File ends with .run, any ideas how do I install it.  Install manager is not accepting it as a valid file.
[04:37] <mneptok> jack5463: stay on-topic.
[04:37] <grumbly> ryanprior: I understand, but... it is pretty fantastic...
[04:37] <ryanprior> grumbly: you bet it is. I suggest taking questions to the proper mailing list. :-)
[04:38] <grumbly> vaelenn: not to be a downer, but check on the website
[04:38] <jack5463> okay give me a way to fix ubuntu
[04:38] <grumbly> ryanprior: you think #gnome on irc.gnome.org will have some answers?
[04:38] <mneptok> jack5463: now you're being deliberately vague, and beginning to severely test my patience.
[04:39] <ryanprior> grumbly: TBH, certain people in particular will have answers, because they are the devs and early neck-deep testers. Most people you talk to will have no experience with gnome-shell.
[04:39] <meowbuntu> if i want to find and copy just grup 2 from this install what do i do
[04:39] <LavaEagle> Isn't there a higher level of dev help than this?
[04:39] <vaelenn> Sorry, web site led me to this channel for help.  Guess I'll just leave you guys and keep looking elsewere.
[04:39] <ryanprior> grumbly: most of the people with the answers you want will be subscribed to http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-shell-list
[04:40] <mneptok> grumbly: are you hacking on GNOME shell or do you have sufficient knowledge of GNOME to provide good QA work? if not, GNOME devs are going to encourage you not to use untested, unreleased code.
[04:40] <jack5463> mneptok, My flash stopped working just now. Now i can't watch videos on youtube. ubuntu 9.10 on usb. How can I repair it? Some videos work and some don't.
[04:40] <mezquitale> jack5463, i've been in the room for 10-15 minutes and you have yet to describe a problem with ubuntu and that you want to fix it ***now***, all  youre saying is you  always have a problem with ubuntu - youre clearly trolling
[04:40] <grumbly> mneptok: I am simply hackin...
[04:40] <songer> hello everybody
[04:40] <mezquitale> LavaEagle, yes, file a bug report in launchpad
[04:40] <songer> how you guys doing?
[04:40] <bbelt16ag> gmachine_24:  nothing under places that says cd
[04:40] <LavaEagle> ty
[04:40] <songer>  i can't set my resolution
[04:41] <grumbly> but i say F' them devs!!! makin' sweet software and not makin' it stable... balls...
[04:41] <songer> i already installed my nvidia drivers
[04:41] <bbelt16ag> and if i take out mount  i takes longer to mount it and my script just go aheads and  trys to  read
[04:41] <bbelt16ag> and  fails.
[04:41] <grumbly> songer: have you checked the nvidia website/forums yet? and is the videocard supported by Xorg 7.4?
[04:41] <mneptok> jack5463: i386 or x86-64?
[04:42] <grumbly> (i dont really say f the devs...)
[04:42] <Jordan_U> LavaEagle, You probably aren't interested but Canonical also provides commercial support if you really need it.
[04:42] <jack5463> mezquitale, I've had ubuntu fail several times, freeze. Why does it do that?
[04:42] <grumbly> (they're great folks)
[04:42] <jack5463> mneptok, i386
[04:42] <mneptok> jack5463: sudo apt-get purge flash-installer && rm -r ~/.mozilla/firefox/$YOUR_PROFILE/cache/* && sudo apt-get install flash-installer
[04:42] <gmachine_24> well if you can find the cd/dvd creator you can set the computer so it does nothing when you insert a recorded DVD
[04:42] <jack5463> mneptok, yesterday it worked fine. today it doesn't work
[04:43] <mezquitale> jack10, usually it has to do with hardware or software that doesnt play nice with your hardware but youre not being specific, it  "fails" or freezes when? have you noticed what you were doing when it froze?
[04:43] <mneptok> jack5463: proprietary software stinks, don't it?
[04:43] <gmachine_24> I'm sure there is another way to do this but if you insert a blank cd/dvd the cd/dvd creator should open and you can edit its properties
[04:44] <ryanprior> jack5463: Flash crashes a lot on every platform. For that reason, Apple has decided to stop supporting it... hopefully soon you won't want or need it on your computer. :-)
[04:44] <ryanprior> jack5463: in the meanwhile, you can install the Free Flash replacement Gnash, which works with many but not video sites.
[04:44] <MidnighToker> hi guys. how can I set permissions on a directory, so all files created inside of it automatically get r--r--r-- permissions, no matter the user creating them?
[04:44] <ryanprior> jack5463: many but not all*
[04:44] <songer> now i'll check it
[04:45] <bbelt16ag> ok seriously what part of ubuntut  software is mounting that  dvd
[04:45] <bbelt16ag> its not prompting or anything
[04:45] <bbelt16ag> it just mounts.
[04:45] <bbelt16ag> bad bad bad
[04:45] <Jordan_U> bbelt16ag, Probably nautilus
[04:45] <LavaEagle> I have an Asus 12.1 netbook atom 1.33ghz 160gb hdd 1gb ram,  could not make ubuntu netbook remix run at all on it, is this user error or simply its' not made for netbooks really?
[04:45] <bbelt16ag> ohhh i wanna  kil it
[04:45] <jack5463> mneptok, I'm glad i didn't delete my stable os. I think good advice for some would be to delete ubuntu and reload it because it's a faster alternative to finding fixes for problems.
[04:45] <mezquitale> MidnighToker, I dont believe you have a good grasp on how permissions work
[04:46] <MidnighToker> mezquitale: no, i dont.
[04:46] <MidnighToker> mezquitale: i was under the impression that i could set a 'sticky' bit on a directory, which controled the permissions of files created within
[04:46] <Jordan_U> bbelt16ag, gconf-editor > apps > nautilus > preferences, Uncheck the "media_automount" option ( https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/30501 )
[04:47] <carl_c> Hai
[04:47] <roboboy> is there some way of revealing the "mangled" identifies contained in a library?
[04:47] <cylent> sup
[04:48] <mezquitale> MidnighToker, that is a tricky question, it might be possible to do it using a script, the trick is that you want them to be read only, problem is a file needs to be writable first otherwise you cant create it-- you create the file then set the permissions
[04:48] <bbelt16ag> thanks
[04:48] <mneptok> jack5463: i think god advice is "stop beating the same old tired drumbeat and stay on topic regarding specific issues with Ubuntu support"
[04:48] <mneptok> jack5463: and that's the last time i'll give you that advice before i simply ban you.
[04:49] <MidnighToker> mezquitale: i'm happy for it to be writable for the owner, I just want to make sure its readable for everyone else.  -at the moment i'm in a situation where files are getting created rw------- which causes headaches and means I have to change the permissions every time something gets added, otherwise it can't be seen by the webserver
[04:49] <bbelt16ag> thanks Jordan_U
[04:50] <brand0n> what are the pros and cons of kde vs gnome
[04:50] <Jordan_U> bbelt16ag, np
[04:50] <brand0n> i currently use gnome, i liked XFCE but it was missing a few features i liked in gnome
[04:50] <brand0n> but ive never used KDE
[04:50] <brand0n> wondering if anyone had an opinion on this
[04:50] <mneptok> brand0n: ask such questions in #ubuntu-offtopic, please
[04:51] <mezquitale> MidnighToker, this is what you do:
[04:51] <mneptok> brand0n: *everyone* has an opinion, and it usually degenerates into a flame war
[04:51] <Random832> MidnighToker; type 'umask' what does it say
[04:51] <MidnighToker> brand0n: install it, play with it and see if you like it.
[04:51] <fez> KDE 3 was great
[04:51] <brand0n> you telling me to ask somewhere seems more flamable than an opinion
[04:51] <fez> KDE4 is so so
[04:51] <scunizi> brand0n: tryr it.. sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop and then on the username boot screen change "sessions" to kde :)
[04:51] <brand0n> lol midnight
[04:51] <brand0n> my AIM screen name is "Midnight Toker" (no numbers)
[04:51] <brand0n> kind of weird
[04:51] <fez> KDE on ubuntu though isn't quite there IMHO
[04:51] <mezquitale> MidnighToker, you create a folder, chown it to   yourself:users,  give yourself whatever rights you want, and give users read rights only
[04:51] <fez> if you want kde i'd go with a more kde centric distro like mandriva
[04:52] <MidnighToker> mezquitale: its 0022
[04:52] <Random832> brand0n; do some people call you a space cowboy, and some people call you maurice?
[04:52] <brand0n> fez how is it performance wise compared to gnome
[04:52] <brand0n> lol sometimes
[04:52] <fez> same
[04:52] <brand0n> kk
[04:52] <brand0n> and sudo apt-get install kde
[04:52] <brand0n> should do it right
[04:52] <brand0n> then i can select session at login
[04:52] <fez> something like that
[04:53] <MidnighToker> brand0n: and k3b is very swish
[04:53] <fez> the package may be called kubuntu
[04:53] <mezquitale> MidnighToker, have you tried on your machine?
[04:53] <scunizi> brand0n: kubuntu-desktop not kde
[04:53] <fez> otherwise kde
[04:53] <fez> there you go
[04:53] <MidnighToker> mezquitale: tried what?
[04:53] <brand0n> thanks scunizi
[04:53] <brand0n> that wont overwrite ubuntu-desktop will it scunizi ?
[04:53] <brand0n> just let me select at login?
[04:53] <MidnighToker> mezquitale: umask returns '0022'
[04:53] <MidnighToker> brand0n: you can pick any DE/WM you like at login
[04:53] <scunizi> brand0n: I like them both.. kde is fast becoming my favorite.. no it wont' overwrite ubuntu.. you'll have the choice on each boot
[04:54] <brand0n> ok thank scunizi
[04:54] <brand0n> and midnight
[04:54] <Seven_Six_Two> i have 2 boxes. logged in to 1 with user "user1" and logged in to 2 with user "user2". sitting at 1, I do "ssh -X user2@ipaddress2" to get gui apps on my display. I'd like to make it so that in ssh session, I can start an app that pops up for user2. Is this possible?
[04:54] <bbelt16ag> weird
[04:55] <bbelt16ag> mount is failing
[04:55] <mezquitale> MidnighToker, have you tried changing the permissions on a folder, then create a file inside that folder and check to see that you have whatever permissions to yourself and everyone else read only
[04:56] <jack5463> I'm trying to play a music video on youtube, it won't play. I tried sudo apt-get purge flash-installer && rm -r ~/.mozilla/firefox/$YOUR_PROFILE/cache/* && sudo apt-get install flash-installer but it didn't fix the problem. Yesterday it worked fine. I've made no changes to the program. It happened after rebooting.
[04:56] <mneptok> jack5463: you need to specify your actual profile
[04:56] <jack5463> mneptok, what's a profile?
[04:57] <mneptok> jack5463: look in ~/.mozilla/firefox
[04:57] <bbelt16ag> hmmm
[04:57] <MidnighToker> mezquitale: yes, but its for a website, so its a little different
[04:57] <bbelt16ag>  ok the dvd deivce needs to know there is a disc in there before it  trys to mount it..
[04:58] <jack5463> mneptok, are you saying i should look up the definition?
[04:58] <bbelt16ag> so i cant have my try open and then do mount /media/cdrom from cli and close  try and try to mount, it fails.. bummer
[04:58] <mneptok> jack5463: i am telling yo to go look inside a folder.
[04:58] <mneptok> jack5463: do you know how display hidden folders and examine their contents?
[04:59] <jack5463> mneptok, yes. so you're saying to delete the profile and create another one?
[05:00] <mneptok> jack5463: no. can you tell what i mean by reading the terminal command i gave you, or would you like more explanation?
[05:01] <cylent> sup guys
[05:02] <mezquitale> jack5463, how does flash fail when youre using it?  Sound doesnt work or you get no video at all?  I've had the same problem with sound, i see the video but no sound, or the video plays for some time but then it stops
[05:02] <jsoft> Is there a way to make ubuntu cancel out the noise coming from the neighbours stereo?
[05:02] <kameron> LavaEagle, get it sorted out with your filesystem? i was away for a bit.
[05:02] <kameron> jsoft, is that a joke?
[05:02] <jsoft> *sigh*. No, I am completely serious.
[05:03] <jack5463> mezquitale, the window shows up, just black where the video is supposed to be but on other videos it works fine
[05:03] <LavaEagle> kameron: Installing xfs going to test it out if my needs necessitate a xfs file system if not back to ext4
[05:03] <scunizi> jsoft: sudo -rf /neighbor
[05:03] <Geoffrey2> !nfs
[05:04] <LavaEagle> !love
[05:04] <jsoft> :)
[05:04] <kameron> LavaEagle, cool. i use XFS with my mythtv setup. works great.
[05:04] <kameron> jsoft, do you mean a sort of electrical interference.. or just their loud music?
[05:05] <mneptok> LavaEagle: GRUB has serious issues with XFS. keep /boot off of XFS formatted space
[05:05] <kameron> scunizi, rm -rf perhaps?
[05:05] <carl_c> !talk
[05:05] <mezquitale> jack5463, can you give me the url of the video so I can go and see if I am able to see it myself?
[05:05] <kameron> LavaEagle, oh yeah. i assume you read about that. i wouldn't boot to an xfs partition.
[05:05] <LavaEagle> kameron: XBMC looks extremely cool
[05:05] <LavaEagle> ......
[05:06] <LavaEagle> I just did though
[05:06] <scunizi> kameron: yep..stretching & typing w/ one finger & a cat on my lap
[05:06] <mneptok> LavaEagle: it's not that it doesn't work. it's just that it's likely to break.
[05:06] <kameron> LavaEagle, oh. well i haven't tried it with grub2, but legacy grub was a major pain. maybe grub2 works well? i don't know.
[05:06] <kameron> scunizi, classic irc position.
[05:07] <LavaEagle> mneptok: Break as in the middle of Stargate break or break as in ???
[05:07] <mneptok> LavaEagle: break as in "it booted yesterday. today it hangs."
[05:08] <kameron> LavaEagle, i would only use a ext filesystem for my OS and especially /boot. for media storage, etc, the other filesystem options are more attractive.
[05:09] <LavaEagle> kameron: Ok I misunderstood the purpose of xfs then
[05:09] <LavaEagle> Time for mandris
[05:11] <jack5463> mezquitale, this one doesn't work - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aiLveKVQjbY This one works - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dCPQubIE2Hk&feature=rec-LGOUT-real_rn-3r-2-HM
[05:14] <scunizi> first one works for me jack5463
[05:15] <giantpune> i was just in a ubuntu-help chat and now it says it is invite only.  can somebody invite me?
[05:15] <bbelt16ag> i fixed it
[05:15] <bbelt16ag> i made it mount  fail, sleep 5, then mount again
[05:15] <jack5463> scunizi, worked for me until i shut down and rebooted.
[05:16] <mezquitale> giantpune, if you want help with ubuntu youve come to the right place, this is ubuntu's support channel
[05:17] <YouDidWut> Anyone know of a free voice changer for ubuntu?
[05:17] <jack5463> mezquitale, do you have an idea why one would work and the other will not?
[05:19] <LavaEagle> Is it theoretical that I could take a 3.5inch sata hdd and hook it up to a laptop with sata cords?
[05:20] <mezquitale> jack5463, it has to do with the flash software, try other drivers
[05:21] <n1lqj> Okay, firefox was downloading a 600 meg file, deleted the file from desktop accidently and cleared the trash.  File downloaded and lsof showed it was downloaded (deleted)  file is gone but so is the 700 megs of drive space, anyone know how to get it back?
[05:21] <mezquitale> jack5463, you have 64 bit machine?
[05:22] <jack5463> mezquitale, 32 bit
[05:22] <blakkheim> n1lqj: du -sh ~/.mozilla
[05:23] <mezquitale> jack5463, here's your answer, it's a known bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gtk+2.0/+bug/410407\
[05:23] <mezquitale> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gtk+2.0/+bug/410407
[05:23] <n1lqj> 130M	/home/vincent/.mozilla
[05:23] <blakkheim> n1lqj: du -sh /tmp
[05:24] <n1lqj> du -sh /tmp
[05:24] <jack5463> mezquitale, the url isn't right.. says - There’s no page with this address in Launchpad.
[05:24] <mezquitale> jack5463, you have compiz enabled?
[05:24] <n1lqj> here is a screenshot, worth 1000 words
[05:25] <mezquitale> jack5463, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gtk+2.0/+bug/410407
[05:25] <n1lqj> http://vchapman.us:8000/WTF.png
[05:26] <scunizi> jack5463: did you enable the medibuntu repos and install ubuntu-restricted-extras and also installed flashplugin-nonfree? if so you may have two flash drivers installed. uninstall the non-free version.
[05:26] <n1lqj> .. /tmp is 76k
[05:26] <n1lqj> /home is on its own partition and space is missing on /home partition
[05:27] <blakkheim> n1lqj: i'm not sure where the temp file could be, then. did you actually check the trash directory?
[05:27] <n1lqj> vincent@abaddon:~/Pictures$ ls-trash
[05:27] <n1lqj> vincent@abaddon:~/Pictures$
[05:27] <n1lqj> nothing
[05:28] <Acoustyk> Does anyone know a way to run gizmo without it monopolizing the soundcard?
[05:28] <mezquitale> Acoustyk, pulse audio was supposed to be the answer for that but you can try running it through jack, catch is anything else that uses audio needs to be routed through jack as well
[05:30] <Acoustyk> what jack
[05:30] <Acoustyk> ?
[05:30] <n1lqj> root@abaddon:/home# find / -name *.iso* -print
[05:30] <n1lqj> nada
[05:30] <Acoustyk> mezquitale: is it like a physical jack?
[05:31] <indus> hi
[05:31] <gh0st> hello guys, i was wondering, i have a up to date ubuntu server install, and was curious if there was a way for me to launch a dedicated x video session to watch an avi using vlc. im in front of terminals all day, and was wondering if i could finally watch some mythbusters :) thnx in advance for the thought, i know this is a difficult/odd request. even a link that disscusses this would be helpful.
[05:32] <seawollf12> i want to find mac address from a file using grep how to get this?
[05:33] <blakkheim> seawollf12: you want to find your own MAC address?
[05:33] <seawollf12> ya
[05:33] <blakkheim> seawollf12: ifconfig -a | grep HWa
[05:33] <soreau> gh0st: There is actually a way to watch videos through mplayer in your terminal without X, using the fbdev vo method
[05:34] <seawollf12> blakkheim: it shows all the mac addresses.
[05:34] <gh0st> :soreau Is there any link that you could provide discussing this method? im very intruiged :)
[05:34] <blakkheim> seawollf12: isn't that what you want?
[05:35] <soreau> gh0st: However, it is only possible with fbcon loaded, so you'd have to be using radeon with kms for example. I don't think nvidia can do it
[05:35] <mobius2> I finally got my independent dual monitors running smoothly in beryl
[05:35] <seawollf12> what i want to exactly get is, i am storing the arping output for a client in a file and from there i want to grep the mac which starts with [ and ends with ]
[05:35] <mobius2> I will not go back to one screen!!!!
[05:35] <mobius2> it was SO worth the work
[05:35] <mobius2> the "work"
[05:35] <gh0st> damn, its just some on board chippy's. :(
[05:35] <mobius2> lol
[05:36] <ryanprior> mobius2: I hate to break it to you, but Beryl is way outdated. We've got Compiz++ now. :-\
[05:36] <mobius2> its compiz++
[05:36] <mobius2> "P
[05:36] <mobius2> the same project  :p
[05:36] <ryanprior> As in lower case c?
[05:36] <soreau> ! beryl | mobius2
[05:37] <mobius2> lol
[05:37] <soreau> mobius2: beryl != compiz
[05:37] <seawollf12> blakkheim?
[05:37] <mobius2> so
[05:37] <mobius2> multiple i2p nodes on single ubuntu install... has anyone done it?
[05:38] <Acoustyk> mezquitale: I looked it up
[05:38] <hyperstream> hey guys, just at a friends place, trying to boot the live cd (trying to convert him from windows) anyhow, it seems to load, until it gets to the part loading the gdm. i get a pink screen with funny colors, how ever im able to drop to console and run lspci - its a nv28 / geforce4 APG card, anyway i can resolve this display issue ? ive tried to use dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg
[05:38] <mezquitale> Acoustyk, yes, and?
[05:39] <soreau> hyperstream: Have you tried specifying Driver "vesa" in xorg.conf, then restarting gdm?
[05:39] <Acoustyk> mezquitale: kind of sucks.  I hope Ubuntu or Gizmo fixes this soon by default.
[05:39] <seawollf12> any body can tell how to get a pattern from a file using grep
[05:39] <hyperstream> soreau, i thought karmic didnt have a xorg.conf ?
[05:39] <Kismet> hey guys... my automounting dosen't work.. and i can not burn dvds anymore
[05:39] <Acoustyk> mezquitale: re-rouhting all my programs to JACK sounds like a huge pain
[05:39] <seawollf12> i want to grep the complete word which starts with [ and ends with ]
[05:39] <mezquitale> Acoustyk, yes, pulseaudio was supposed to be the answer but it fails miserably from my experience
[05:40] <hyperstream> soreau, ive just done a locate xorg.conf and there isnt one ?
[05:40] <mezquitale> Acoustyk, youre using karmic with pulse audio?
[05:40] <Kismet> anyone any idea
[05:40] <soreau> hyperstream: For proprietary drivers, X needs a conf file to be told which driver to load and how. Open drivers do not require a conf file with newer versions of X since X is good enough at guessing how to set up cards that have open driver support
[05:41] <soreau> hyperstream: If there is no xorg.conf in /etc/X11, create a default one with Xorg -configure
[05:41] <Acoustyk> mezquitale: Yeah and pulseaudio actually did solve a lot of issues but there's always something
[05:41] <mezquitale> Kismet, what is the output of df -h?
[05:41] <hyperstream> soreau, this is just the live cd (try ubuntu without installing)
[05:41] <hyperstream> soreau, ok one sec
[05:41] <seawollf12> ?
[05:41] <soreau> hyperstream: You said you could get to a console though
[05:41] <seawollf12> ?
[05:41] <seawollf12> ?
[05:41] <FloodBot4> seawollf12: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:42] <hyperstream> soreau, yes via CTRL + ALT F1
[05:42] <mezquitale> Acoustyk, with pulse audio an application is not supposed to hog the audio card but apparently pulse audio is still not working as expected in ubuntu
[05:42] <seawollf12> ?
[05:42] <soreau> hyperstream: From there, stop gdm then run Xorg -configure to get a default conf file, then in the Device section put a line Driver "vesa" and restart gdm
[05:43] <hyperstream> soreau, thanks mate, giving that a shot now.
[05:43] <Kismet> mezquitale, something like Filesystem .... /dev/sda1 Size 8.5 gb used 3.5 avail 4.3g
[05:43] <ZykoticK9> Acoustyk, mezquitale i gotta say Pulse seems MUCH better under Lucid then it ever did under Karmic
[05:43] <artistx> how do i start compiz fusion from the command line?
[05:43] <Acoustyk> mezquitale: Figures.  I wish they'd fix it because I have no service at home and I'd like to run Gizmo on my comp so I can make and receive calls here
[05:43] <soreau> artistx: compiz &
[05:44] <gokturk> #cedega
[05:44] <ZykoticK9> artistx, from a terminal you mean?  "compiz --replace"
[05:44] <Acoustyk> ZykoticK9: I've had the same experience with both.
[05:44] <soreau> ZykoticK9: The --replace is not needed since the ubuntu wrapper script takes care of that for you
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[05:44] <ZykoticK9> Acoustyk, really?  hum, i'm finding it much less annoying
[05:44] <ZykoticK9> soreau, good to know, thanks
[05:45] <brand0n> anyone know a torrent client capable of running a .sh file upon completetion of a torrent
[05:45] <Acoustyk> ZykoticK9: the only issue I have is with Gizmo
[05:45] <hyperstream> soreau, i just replace the "nv" with "vesa" and continued to restart the service( also tried its suggestion with X -config /home/ubuntu/xorg.conf.new ) just getting a black screen
[05:45] <ZykoticK9> Acoustyk, i don't even know what Gizmo is... googling now :)
[05:45] <mezquitale> Kismet, if you cant burn dvds it looks like it's because you only have 4.3 gigs available but if you look at /var/log/messages you might get a better a clue of why it's failing
[05:46] <Acoustyk> ZykoticK9: Haha, I use it with google voice.
[05:46] <hyperstream> soreau, wait, the service gdm start is still a pink flashing screen
[05:46] <LavaEagle> What is the command for updating without the update manager?
[05:46] <Acoustyk> ZykoticK9: It's useful in that way.
[05:46] <soreau> hyperstream: Did you make sure to cp the file with the vesa driver to /etc/X11/xorg.conf?
[05:46] <Kismet> mezquitale, the problem is that i even can not start the application or with brasero i can not choose my dvd rom drive
[05:47] <ZykoticK9> Acoustyk, nice - I didn't know there was a functioning GoogleVoice client undre linux - very good to know
[05:47] <user1> can anyone answer me?
[05:47] <hyperstream> soreau, you are my god.
[05:47] <mezquitale> Kismet, you didnt see anything interesting in /var/log/messages?
[05:47] <minderaser> LavaEagle: apt-get update
[05:47] <LavaEagle> user1: just ask your question
[05:48] <Kismet> mezquitale, if i try cd/dvd creator oi get the error message "Nautilus cannot handle "burn" locations."
[05:48] <ryanprior> !anyone | user1
[05:48] <LavaEagle> ty!
[05:48] <Acoustyk> ZykoticK9: It's incredibly convenient save the sound card issue.
[05:48] <LuciusSir> why would sound keep dying ?
[05:48] <Kismet> mezquitale, nope nothing what was written recently
[05:48] <user1> after editing pdf with flpsed i am unable to open it with adobe acrobat on windows while it opens on evince linux.
[05:48] <soreau> hyperstream: If you would like to go a step further, and the machine has internet access: Install the nvidia driver (sys>admin>hardware drivers) and when it tells you to reboot, don't reboot but instead restart gdm/X again
[05:48] <user1> how do i resolve this
[05:49] <soreau> hyperstream: This way, you can show off 3D (compiz) effects
[05:49] <mezquitale> Kismet, i suggest you look at the forum or launchpad then, or you could try the room at another time and hopefully someone who's had the same problem can help you?  The problem I had was that I didnt have enough free space on my machine
[05:49] <minderaser> LavaEagle: that will just update the list of packages. You may want apt-get upgrade to actually install the newest packages.  One possibility is to import the PDF into a program such as Inkscape or OpenOffice and then re-export it. Assuming that process maintains your formatting sufficiently, it might produce a better end-result.
[05:50] <Kismet> mezquitale, thank you for your time....
[05:50] <jellow_> Im having a majour issue with a bug that causes random lock ups which i can only solve by reboot , Nothing in logs , What are my options?
[05:50] <mezquitale> Kismet, no problem
[05:50] <hyperstream> soreau, thanks mate, ill install off this live cd first then repeat the steps to fix the display then ill continue to install the restricted drivers :)
[05:50] <hyperstream> soreau, thanks a mil.
[05:50] <ryanprior> jellow_: Personally, I usually cry when I'm in that situation. Have you been able to reproduce the lockup?
[05:50] <soreau> hyperstream: Even better. No problem.
[05:50] <mezquitale> jellow_, youre using karmic?
[05:51] <user1> ryanprior: how do i import pdf to openoffice writer. there is no option!
[05:51] <ZykoticK9> user1, i don't belive you can, i know the export - but doubt the import
[05:52] <LuciusSir> help me ! HELP ME! audio dies intermittently for no apparent reason, its not the hardware because on windows it worked fine
[05:52] <jellow_> ryanprior: No very hard to see any thing in common , Usualy its fine for first few days then gerneraly get worse but this could be just me
[05:52] <Acoustyk> Trying to learn how to script in terminal... Any recommended guides?
[05:52] <ryanprior> user1: I don't see an import option in OOo either. Try Inkscape.
[05:52] <dingdong> how to install .deb package from a http link from terminal?
[05:53] <jellow_> mezquitale: yes
[05:53] <dingdong> someboady?
[05:53] <ryanprior> jellow_: In your situation, inbetween tears, I would tend to suspect hardware issues. Do you have a particular reason not to?
[05:53] <dingdong> somebody*
[05:54] <disappearedng> anyway to roll back my firefox to 3.5?
[05:54] <theCarpenter> i'm trying to get aircrack working; it says i dont have driver sources installed or something; how/where can i install the sources for my wifi driver?
[05:54] <Guest1563> #ubuntu-tr
[05:54] <jellow_> ryanprior: it seems to work fine in windows *shivers*
[05:54] <jack5463> Where do i find flashplugin-nonfree / flashplugin-installer so I can remove it?
[05:54] <soreau> theCarpenter: aircrack-ng.org will tell you everything you need to know
[05:54] <k4rt33k> theCarpenter: Aircrcak has a list of supported wi-fi cards on their homepage
[05:54] <Guest1563> #pardus
[05:54] <dingdong> how to install .deb package from a http link from terminal?
[05:55] <soreau> dingdong: dpkg -i package.deb
[05:55] <ryanprior> dingdong: wget http://your-package.deb && dpkg install your-package.deb
[05:55] <ryanprior> jellow_: How about the LiveCD? Other versions of Ubuntu? Knoppix?
[05:55] <mezquitale> jellow_, what I would do is try another version of ubuntu.  8.04 would most likely work, or jaunty.  I had a very bad experience with jaunty, my desktop would lock up randomly, intrepid was fine and karmic plays nice with my machine
[05:56] <dingdong> ryanprior, oh so it can be done only by issuing 2 commands.. anyway thx.
[05:56] <jack5463> mezquitale,  Where do i find flashplugin-nonfree / flashplugin-installer so I can remove it?
, i tried that but for this i hv to download the file first and then issue this command.
[05:57] <ryanprior> dingdong: there might be a one-shot way to do it, but I'm not aware of one. :-)
[05:57] <LavaEagle> minderaser: can I "man anycommand" ? and get the manual or will -h --help do the same thing?
[05:57] <ruggerit> presshere, found a fix for the synaptics driver
[05:57] <jellow_> ryanprior mezquitale, No i only ever tried ubuntu , But come to think of it livecd never crashed
[05:57] <k4rt33k> jack5463: Try in the synaptic package manager
[05:57] <dingdong> ryanprior, ok
[05:57] <dingdong> :D
[05:57] <soreau> dingdong: ryanprior told you how to do it using wget
[05:57] <jack5463> k4rt33k, It's not there
[05:57] <k4rt33k> jack5463: you will find which version of it is installed and remove it
[05:58] <jellow_> mezquitale: il try few of the other releases but i has same issue on 9.04
[05:58] <dingdong> soreau, yeah but then again i hv to use 2 commands, i was thinking like there will be a command which will installa package from internet like this apt-get do
[05:58] <dingdong> :D
[05:58] <LuciusSir> help me ! HELP ME! audio dies intermittently for no apparent reason, its not the hardware because on windows it worked fine, it just stops randomly, sometimes it plays fine, sometimes it stops after an hour, sometimes in 5 mins
[05:58] <Guest1563> Hi friends varmı among you who understand from Cedega
[05:58] <Guest1563> ?
[05:59] <LavaEagle> Could I say sudo apt-get remove+ vlc   which would do the same as sudo apt-get install vlc?
[05:59] <soreau> dingdong: No, it doesn't work like that. apt-get has specific repos designed especially for ubuntu
[05:59] <dingdong> ok. :|
[05:59] <LavaEagle> Guest1563: ask your question please
[05:59] <soreau> dingdong: wget just downloads files. dpkg deals with deb packages directly
[06:00] <dingdong> hmmm, i got it.. thx
[06:00] <dingdong> :D
[06:00] <k4rt33k> jack5463: try this then apt-cache pkgnames | grep -i flash
[06:00] <fewf> Hi, how can I get 'sudo modprobe ndiswrapper' to run when Ubuntu boots ?
[06:00] <k4rt33k> and try unistalling flash related packages
[06:01] <soreau> LuciusSir: Sounds like an issue with the audio drivers
[06:01] <k4rt33k> but it must show in synaptic as flash is a basic thing
[06:01] <seawollf12> how to pick a particular word from a file by passing the word no.
[06:01] <seawollf12> any idea
[06:01] <LuciusSir> soreau:  where might a log be stored if they're crashing ? didn't see anything promising under var/log
[06:02] <i58> seawolf, grep pattern file
[06:02] <fewf> Hi, how can I get 'sudo modprobe ndiswrapper' to run when Ubuntu boots ?
[06:02] <sandman> Yeah, so. I changed sound cards, and the same thing is still happening.
[06:02] <soreau> LuciusSir: It sounds like they might be failing silently (no pun intended) but you can check the output of 'dmesg' right after it happens to see if there are any interesting messages
[06:02] <jellow_> Because of crashes , I have segemntaion fault on my ext4, I ran fsck on / and it spent ages correcting , Now i can only get grub rescue prompt , Is there anything i can do with grub rescue ?
[06:03] <seawollf12> anybody please help me
[06:03] <LavaEagle> "i58: seawolf, grep pattern file"
[06:03] <i58> seawolf12: grep pattern file
[06:04] <LuciusSir> soreau:  nope nothing just kernel boot messages
[06:05] <soreau> LuciusSir: Which audio chipset is it, as reported by lspci?
[06:05] <seawollf12> i58: my pattern starts with [ and ends with ], but in between there is mac address stored, that i want to pick
[06:06] <LuciusSir> soreau: intel ac'97
[06:06] <seawollf12> i also know the word no. it is 10th of the file
[06:06] <soreau> LuciusSir: If you reload the kernel module, does that fix it?
[06:06] <fewf> anyone?
[06:06] <seawollf12> how to pick by passing word no.
[06:06] <ryanprior> seawolf: cat yourfile | awk '{print($10)'
[06:06] <ryanprior> seawolf: cat yourfile | awk '{print($10)}'
[06:07] <i58> there you go, I missed that "no" meant number
[06:07] <fewf> Can anyone tell me how can I get 'sudo modprobe ndiswrapper' to run when Ubuntu boots ?
[06:08] <LuciusSir> soreau: it fixes itself and then f's up again internittently
[06:08] <LuciusSir> soreau:  so my assumption is its doing something...... on its own............. whatever program the audio crash happens in freezes tho
[06:08] <soreau> LuciusSir: Which application(s) are you testing the audio with
[06:08] <jack5463> k4rt33k, I tried - apt-cache pkgnames | grep -i flash in terminal and it just gave me a list of terms with flash in them. what am i supposed to do with the list?
[06:09] <LuciusSir> amarok and vlc and dragonplayer
[06:09] <LuciusSir> soreau:  all of them, same problem
[06:10] <sandman> My sound is WoW is thoroughly garbled. Anyone have some ideas?
[06:10] <soreau> LuciusSir: Have you checked audio properties, gstreamer-properties etc to see if there is some obvious problem?
[06:10] <i58> fewf: look into the /etc/rc scripts. you might not need the sudo
[06:10] <LuciusSir> soreau:  apparently audio is an issue i've yet to tackle, because no i don't even know what to look at in that case
[06:10] <obscurant1st> exit
[06:11] <vilkas> why i cannot enable visual effects?
[06:11] <sandman> Anyone know how to mute sound coming from the microphone from the speakers
[06:11] <vilkas> could it be because i run ubuntu from VMware?
[06:11] <sandman> But not from actually being captured by something like Mangler?
[06:11] <soreau> vilkas: Can you pastebin the output of 'compiz &' from your terminal to pastebin.com?
[06:11] <Jordan_U> jellow_, You can try running "ls" to list all partitions that grub can currently see, and then set the $prefix variable if needed, but you are probably better off just re-installing grub from a liveCD if you have one