[04:27] <Connor1> I got the CLI shit working, thanks for everyone's help.
[04:27] <Connor1> Google fixed it in the end lol
[04:27] <TeruFSX> shado`_: I guess openSUSE could serve as a trial
[04:27] <h00k> !language | Connor1
[04:27] <geoff918> openSUSE isn't bad (just don't try to get support, the forums are nasty)
[04:27] <magicblaze0073> in my ubuntu 10.10 there is no kernel line in grub+edit...how do i set acpi=off?
[04:27] <yao_ziyuan> does ubuntu use pulseaudio by default?
[04:27] <shado`_> Jordan: that`s for me right ?
[04:28] <Connor1> Language happens
[04:28] <pibarnas> will gnome stop to be the ubuntu main interface? is it true?
[04:28] <magicblaze0073> the vmlinuz line needs the acpi=off?
[04:28] <EeveeTrainer> !thanks | Connor1
[04:28] <ghostnik11> jordan_u; did that already in fact when i go to monitor settings it says vbox and only gives me the options of 800 x 600, 640 x 400, then 800 x 600 again
[04:28] <geoff918> hmm, I tried compiling a much earlier stable release (I was compiling stable release) and still same error. Frustrating.
[04:28] <shado`_> geoff918: thanx
[04:29] <Tom1> Jordan_U: resolution is fixed, thank you...is it bad if there is a lot of scrolling output when i select the linux option from the grub menu?
[04:29] <TeruFSX> magicblaze0073: likely.
[04:29] <shado`_> Terufsx: what do u mean ?
[04:30] <TeruFSX> shado`_: SUSE Enterprise is based on openSUSE (I think)
[04:30] <shado`_> yes
[04:30] <magicblaze0073> TeruFSX: You are right about opensuse+suse E.
[04:30] <Jordan_U> Tom1: No. That output is because you you don't have "quiet splash". You can add back quiet splash in /etc/default/grub, specifically GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash". Be sure to run "sudo update-grub" after editing /etc/default/grub.
[04:30] <shado`_> Novell owns it though
[04:30] <TeruFSX> yao_ziyuan: ubuntu does use pulseaudio
[04:31] <Maahes_> ... I just hosed my pendrive by doing a dd operation backward =(
[04:31] <shado`_> Novell wants to make $$$
[04:31] <TeruFSX> shado`_: but because of that the products will be similar. thus, you can get an idea of what SUSE is like with openSUSE
[04:31] <TeruFSX> i'm not sure if there is a legitimate trial or not
[04:31] <shado`_> what, like shareware ?
[04:31] <Maahes_> Now I have to set up rvm again, ruby koans, my tmux rc my vimrc, my compiz settings, a whole host of install stuff etc =(
[04:32] <shado`_> that`s my point: if I install it I might get snagged
[04:32] <Tom1> Jordan_U: hmm, i don't think i have a grub direction in /etc/default/
[04:32] <TeruFSX> shado`_: that's why you use openSUSE first
[04:32] <she_dyed> why dont you ask in their channel
[04:32] <she_dyed> shado`_: ^
[04:32] <TeruFSX> to try out the general SUSE experience
[04:32] <yao_ziyuan> TeruFSX: i don't know why distros with fresh packages (e.g. ubuntu, fedora) all use pulseaudio by default. on my machine, pulseaudio can't mix sounds. i always have to manually disable it.
[04:32] <Jordan_U> Tom1: Ahh, I forgot you were left with some packages not fully installed. Run "sudo apt-get install grub-pc".
[04:33] <TeruFSX> yao_ziyuan: I assume they have decided it is generally the best option.
[04:33] <yao_ziyuan> TeruFSX: all right, so my machine which was bought in 2003 is outdated.
[04:34] <shado`_> Teru: is opensuse available on the Ubuntu Software download ?
[04:34] <Tom1> Jordan_U: i get the blue pop-up screen
[04:34] <TeruFSX> shado`_: openSUSE is a completely separate OS
[04:34] <TeruFSX> so it is not available there
[04:34] <geoff918> http://software.opensuse.org/113/en
[04:34] <Tom1> Jordan_U: "this system has files from the grub legacy boot loader installed....finish conversion to grub 2 now?"
[04:34] <magicblaze0073> Terhow do i install the alsa-driver? apt-get says not found?
[04:34] <TeruFSX> yes
[04:34] <shado`_> Then I`m confused between the two
[04:34] <Jordan_U> Tom1: Yes.
[04:35] <TeruFSX> shado`_: it's like Fedora (openSUSE) and RHEL (SUSE Enterprise)
[04:35] <shado`_> ok geoff918: gotcha
[04:35] <anirudhr> shado`, OpenSUSE is a different distro. :)
[04:35] <geoff918> No, no, Fedora is the open version of Red Hat
[04:35] <cainhorasec> join ubuntu
[04:35] <cainhorasec> qjoin ubuntu
[04:35] <geoff918> openSUSE is the open version of SUSE
[04:35] <she_dyed> voila!
[04:35] <Tom1> Jordan_U: i have to pick the grub install device
[04:35] <TeruFSX> geoff918 same relation, though
[04:35] <klync> seriously folks, has ubuntu stripped out debian's make-java-pkg app? or am i just forgetting the name?
[04:36] <geoff918> TeruFSX: Yes, analogous: just the wrong analogy :)
[04:36] <Jordan_U> Tom1: What are the options? (just need the sdXY portition).
[04:36] <geoff918> Then there's Ubuntu which is the open version of the commercial Ubuntu
[04:36] <shado`_> brb
[04:36] <TeruFSX> what I mean was Fedora is to RHEL as openSUSE is to SUSE Enterprise
[04:36] <Tom1> Jordan_U: sda and sda5 (windows and linux, respectively, right?)
[04:37] <kaizer> hooouuuu
[04:37] <geoff918> Right, I got you TeruFSX, I'm not trying to give you a hard time
[04:37] <TeruFSX> okay.
[04:39] <Jordan_U> Tom1: Select just sda. The options are the mbr of your hard drive and your Ubuntu partition. You almost always want to install grub to the mbr.
[04:39] <geoff918> shado`_ Do you have any questions about which 'version' you ought to be downloading or installing? (I'm not sure what your experience level is with this stuff)
[04:39] <shado`_> thanx you guys
[04:39] <Deihmos> every ubuntu distro does not work right with 5.1 audio
[04:39] <geoff918> shado`_ BTW--Default for SUSE is KDE (not Gnome like Ubuntu)
[04:39] <shado`_> geoff: not yet
[04:39] <Tom1> Jordan_U: so the mbr is associated with the windows partition?
[04:39] <Deihmos> is there some kind of problem with 5.1 and linux?
[04:39] <day> hoooy
[04:40] <Jordan_U> Tom1: No. It has nothing to do with windows vs linux.
[04:40] <day> can i kick youuuuuuu
[04:40] <shado`_> Geoff: I still a novice since Iǜe only been on LInux for about 4 months
[04:40] <shado`_> geoff: I alrady have KDE
[04:40] <geoff918> Well, I tried Ubuntu (first attempt at linux) with 8.04. I hate to say it, but I...well, despised it...
[04:40] <psusi> Tom1, the mbr is what DEFINES partitions... and contains the initial boot code the bios loads
[04:40] <geoff918> Switched to Suse and loved it
[04:41] <ghostnik11> jordan_U: this is what I get when i post lspci | grep VGA
[04:41] <geoff918> then random bugs started happening
[04:41] <shado`_> and Gnome of course
[04:41] <geoff918> lots of errors all over the place
[04:41] <geoff918> and then tried Ubuntu 9.04 and loved it. Been with Ubuntu since
[04:41] <ghostnik11> jordan_U: 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: InnoTek Systemberatung GmbH VirtualBox Graphics Adapter
[04:41] <klync> outdated: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/JavaInstallation
[04:42] <acu_> Is there any PCIe or PCI way expansion ? I run out of PCI slots and do not know what to do
[04:42] <shado`_> geoff: do u pay for Suse: what does `open` mean ?
[04:42] <magicblaze0073> toshiba + acpi + ubuntu + laptop = trouble. I guess I should try opensuse?
[04:42] <geoff918> shado`_ I do love yum
[04:42] <geoff918> shado`_ you don't pay for openSUSE (at least you don't have to, you can always donate)
[04:42] <shado`_> ok
[04:42] <psusi> acu_, buy a motherboard that has more slots, or find a way to use less slots
[04:43] <Tom1> Jordan_U: okay, it finished installing
[04:43] <magicblaze0073> opensuse = reinstall everything every 2 years... :)
[04:43] <shado`_> so Novell Suse has got to be different
[04:43] <magicblaze0073> toshiba + ubuntu = unresolved crash/hang problem : http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1550219&page=5
[04:43] <Jordan_U> Tom1: Ok. Reboot and you should see a splash screen instead of scrolling text.
[04:43] <sha0> Here's a weird one: Can I change the cwd of a process via sudo and /proc/ or something?
[04:44] <Tom1> okay, do i need to modify /etc/default/grub still?
[04:44] <shado`_> I bookmarked the webpage to download opensuse
[04:44] <geoff918> shado`_ you'll find that opensuse has tons of software in its repositories (amazingly much), and I do really enjoy yum as a package manager. But, it just seemed to break on me after awhile (standard updates would sometimes throw the system for a very bad curve)
[04:44] <shado`_> my KDE is unstable: the desktops keep switching
[04:44] <Tom1> Jordan_U: nevermind, it's already in the file
[04:45] <shado`_> then it`s hard to find the app I was on
[04:45] <geoff918> shado`_ I love the appearance of KDE. I don't really enjoy anything else about it.
[04:45] <geoff918> shado`_ Do you have a shortcut key enabled or 'screen hot spots'?
[04:45] <shado`_> no
[04:46] <shado`_> me too I love KDE
[04:46] <Jordan_U> Tom1: The lack of the file was why the options weren't there in the first place. Installing the package installed Ubuntu's default settings as well.
[04:46] <geoff918> shado`_ Well, do you need multiple desktops. A quick and dirty fix may be to simply reduce your number of desktops to 1.
[04:47] <shado`_> well I really need at least 2: I a tutor who wants to teleconference on 1, and the other would be for email
[04:47] <geoff918> shado`_ Ah, well that's pretty much out. (Except you may be able to do better with just two.)
[04:47] <Tom1> Jordan_U: uh oh, the login screen is frozen again now
[04:48] <shado`_> Geoff: but yeah, you are right: I can reduce
[04:48] <shado`_> I`l try it with just 2 then
[04:48] <geoff918> shado`_ I wonder if you could open more than one graphical session? e.g. use the one on F7, but also create a separate gdm session on another like F6?
[04:48] <geoff918> oops, kdm?
[04:49] <Tom1> Jordan_U: nevermind, it became unfrozen somehow?
[04:50] <pickett_> u can
[04:50] <shado`_> Geoff, I am writing notes about everything: I`ll try f7 too
[04:50] <anirudhr> geoff918, If you have a graphics card that supports it, you can use multiple monitors and extend your desktop.
[04:51] <shado`_> Geoff: it`s not easy to switch from windows to Linux
[04:51] <shado`_> I love Linux because there`s so much to learn
[04:53] <Tom1> Jordan_U: thank you so much for your help, what is the proper way to edit the grub2 boot menu so i don't have future problems again?
[04:53]  * tiox facepalms
[04:53] <katronixserf> can someone tell me which package provides cmp?
[04:53] <Jordan_U> Tom1: Edit settings in /etc/default/grub, and if you want to remove old kernels just uninstall them via apt/synaptic.
[04:54] <tiox> I knew the station's ID the entire time, I think i was malforming the .pls address.
[04:54] <tiox> Anyway, if people want to listen to WJXQ, 106.1 online, http://3033.live.streamtheworld.com:80/WJXQFMAACCMP3
[04:54] <geoff918> Sorry, I was playing with the session and corrupted my display. I was jumping around ctl-alt-f1, ctl-alt-f2
[04:54] <anirudhr> katronixserf, cmp, to compare two files?
[04:55] <katronixserf> yes
[04:55] <geoff918> Windows to Linux is not actually that hard. But, it is a completely different paradigm. I do find Linux actually easier in most any way you can imagine.
[04:55] <magicblaze0073> k, if i switch off acpi, my laptop does not hang. So it was acpi that was hanging it. Any ideas on how to fix this?
[04:55] <geoff918> For one, well when the machine has an error--it comes out in plain english not hex dump.
[04:56] <geoff918> magicblaze0073: you can change your boot flags to fix that
[04:56] <katronixserf> anirudhr yes
[04:57] <anirudhr> katronixserf, diffutils
[04:57] <katronixserf> thanks
[04:57] <anirudhr> katronixserf, No problem. :) Just a quick search away.
[04:58] <shado`_> geoff918: how come u disconnected ?
[04:58] <PyjamaSpank> since i've upgraded to 10.10, Deluge has started using 100% of 1 core of my CPU, any ideas?
[04:59] <Tom1> Jordan_U: will sudo gedit grub & allow me to modify grub?
[04:59] <geoff918> shado`_ I went ahead and corrupted my display when I was playing around. Hah.
[04:59] <shado`_> lol
[04:59] <shado`_> we`re only human
[04:59] <Jordan_U> Tom1: No, you would use "gksudo gedit /etc/default/grub".
[04:59] <magicblaze0073> geoff918: I can switch off acpi, but does that have any side effects. Also, no sensors show up on my box
[04:59] <shado`_> so far
[04:59] <gartral> how do i schedule a fsck check on reboot?
[05:00] <geoff918> shado`_ I had no screen, so I used a ctl-alt-f1 and went through the log-in without any visual feedback. Then I followed it with the sudo shutdown -r now, password
[05:00] <Tom1> Jordan_U: ahh graphical sudo or whatever...thank you
[05:00] <shado`_> I try to stay away from terminal commands as much as possible
[05:00] <Jordan_U> Tom1: You're welcome.
[05:01] <shado`_> Termianl goes way back to Unix
[05:01] <geoff918> shado`_ Well, I do know a few things around the CLI. That for one helps to ensure I don't go corrupting data because it forces the clean shutdown
[05:01] <shado`_> Terminal: my hands get ahead of me
[05:01] <geoff918> shado`_ Yes, well TBH my favorite OS is still DOS. Which is probably why I'm at home at the *nix CLI.
[05:01] <shado`_> what`s the CLi ?
[05:02] <zcat[1]> geoff918:  magic sysreq?
[05:02] <geoff918> Command Line Interface
[05:02] <Tom1> Jordan_U: and "sudo update-grub" after i modify anything in grub?
[05:02] <zcat[1]> !sysreq
[05:02] <anirudhr> Tom1, Yes.
[05:02] <she_dyed> gartral: shutdown -f -r now
[05:02] <Jordan_U> Tom1: Yes.
[05:02] <Tom1> thank you
[05:03] <geoff918> shado`_ If you try to stay away from the CLI, you may not be *that* interested in openSUSE.
[05:03] <shado`_> oh Command Line Interface: I agree I liked most versions of dos: I have been using computers since 1973
[05:03] <shado`_> why ?
[05:04] <Jordan_U> Tom1: You're welcome.
[05:04] <shado`_> geoff: so open suse relies on terminal commands ?
[05:04] <geoff918> shado`_ Ubuntu is probably the distro that most wants to get entirely away from terminal commands. It's the easiest to switch over to, and has the best n00b support
[05:05] <daddysmurf> I have a multi-seat desktop. On one seat, I have the normal ubuntu/gnome setup. On the other, I have X/flux/mythtv. I just bought a remote control, I've installed lirc, and I want gnome to ignore the remote so I can have it directed to the mythtv X instance. I cannot figure out how to make gnome stop receiving events from the remote control. How can I do this?
[05:05] <Tom1> Jordan_U: so should the old ubuntu versions still work on my machine?
[05:05] <shado`_> yeh I know, but if I want to use CLI, I just cut and paste
[05:05] <geoff918> shado`_ Doesn't rely upon, no. You'll merely find yourself there more than you expect. Ubuntu--I have friends that NEVER go to terminal.
[05:05] <blakkheim> and then you have people like me who basically live in the terminal
[05:05] <daddysmurf> geoff918: to have linux and not use cli is a tragedy
[05:06] <shado`_> exactly what I want, automatic software install so I can concentrate on work and fun
[05:06] <Jordan_U> Tom1: You don't actually have the old version installed still, just the old version's kernel.
[05:06] <shado`_> Geoff: Ubuntu does that well
[05:06] <ramk> see when linux is running and i just close my laptop .... reopen again after a while.... linux doesnt repond... doesnt open the previous state or doenst shows me the login window.
[05:06] <Jordan_U> Tom1: Though I may have minunderstood your question.
[05:06] <geoff918> Agreed. I love the CLI, too. But, I understand why some people avoid it. I try to offer advice *away* from the terminal whenever possible for newer users because it can be daunting
[05:06] <ramk> any idea on tht ?
[05:06] <Tom1> Jordan_U: no, that was what i was wondering, thank you
[05:07] <shingen> gui requires too many steps to get stuff done... gui walkthroughs are best done in VoDs, not in text :)
[05:07] <gartral> how do i force gedit to open a file as plain text, ignoring special chars so that it shows something, not just the "bwah! i don't understand this, i'm not opening it" error?
[05:07] <shado`_> Geoff: terminal is really for hard core programmers
[05:07] <blakkheim> shado`_: not really
[05:07] <geoff918> shado`_ No, no. I'm not a programmer at all.
[05:07] <EeveeTrainer> !hi | gartral
[05:07] <shingen> hard core users perhaps
[05:07] <aboSamoor> can anyone help to make the volume indicator goes more than 100% from my Fn key ?
[05:08] <prince_jammys> you want to turn it up to 11?
[05:08] <gartral> shado`_: no, terminal is for people who care to know what's actually going on in their system.
[05:08] <shado`_> ok enlighten me again
[05:08] <aL3x> shado`_: WTF
[05:08] <blakkheim> well said gartral
[05:08] <Jordan_U> Tom1: You're welcome.
[05:08] <shado`_> ty
[05:08] <aL3x> "terminal is only for hardcore pogrammers' HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
[05:08] <Gnea> !language | aL3x
[05:09] <gartral> blakkheim: thank you. as a matter of fact, i'm in irssi, in terminal right now! :P
[05:09] <blakkheim> gartral: me too :3
[05:09] <blakkheim> ssh+screen+irssi
[05:09] <aL3x> language? i didnt say anything
[05:09] <geoff918> shado`_ Honestly, I find a sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude safe-upgrade -y to be much faster and more effective than the whole GUI update manager thing
[05:09] <EeveeTrainer> !welcome | eeveetrainer
[05:09] <aboSamoor> prince_jammys, I do not where is the problem ? but making it 100% is making the sound so low, so everytime I have to go to the sound preferences and raise to the max which is higher than 100%
[05:09] <Scunizi> shado`_: terminal is for those who have recognized its power and speed to get some things done.  Even you can learn the basics.. It's not programming, but controlling your computer easier/faster than the gui will do for some tasks.
[05:09] <shado`_> I am logging all this
[05:10] <Gnea> aL3x: we know what 'wtf' means, that doesn't hide it.
[05:10] <EeveeTrainer> hi, how do i make a rooted bin?
[05:10] <aL3x> Gnea: seriously? you cant even abbreviate in here?
[05:10] <Gnea> aL3x: seriously.
[05:10] <gartral> blakkheim: i.. could never get the hang of screen. i know how to use it, but i always end up loosing it between reconnects
[05:10] <geoff918> @aboSamoor are you talking about the main settings? I had an issue with earlier Ubuntu versions that required alsamixer to be adjusted at the CLI
[05:10] <shado`_> scunizi: ok
[05:10] <daddysmurf> is wtf really a nogo?
[05:10] <prince_jammys> oh boy
[05:10] <shingen> lol, I see a kb coming
[05:11] <wtf_> my real name is wallace thomas ferguson :P
[05:11] <Scunizi> wtf_: that might get you bounced
[05:11] <gartral> aL3x: please keep in mind this is an international english-speaking channel, abbreviations are primarily a Americanism
[05:11] <geoff918> huh, I didn't realize that acronyms were specific to America
[05:12] <daddysmurf> I guess that means to stick to the ever-favorite "wtfuzzies"
[05:12] <gartral> geoff918: i said primarily, not specifically
[05:12] <shado`_> I thought wtf meant,,,,,,,Nevermind
[05:12] <Tom1> Jordan_U: the login screen remains frozen for 1-2 minutes sometimes...is there something else i should run to make sure everything was updated correctly?
[05:12] <Jordan_U> Tom1: "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"
[05:12] <geoff918> Yes, nobody can destroy the English language quite as decisively as an American, I suppose. (I'm American)
[05:13] <androidized7> hi
[05:13] <shado`_> and a Canadian
[05:13] <shado`_> eh ?
[05:13] <geoff918> shado'_ What's that aboot?
[05:13] <Gnea> alexlea: alright then?
[05:13] <Tom1> Jordan_U: okay, it didn't change anything...is that a bad sign?
[05:13] <shado`_> u mean about ?
[05:13] <IdleOne> !ot | geoff918 shado`
[05:13] <Scunizi> geoff918: try translating Frank Zappa lyrics to any other language.. near impossible without getting into american social interaction, historic references etc..
[05:14] <geoff918> Well, we are quite ethnocentric: Canadians actually *are* Americans (North America)
[05:14] <shado`_> ok ubottu
[05:14] <shado`_> sorry
[05:14] <aboSamoor> geoff918, yes,  I am talking that 100% in the sound volume is not the max and not even close
[05:14] <alexlea> Gnea: no one appreciates my sense of humor :(
[05:14] <daddysmurf> geoff918: that is not ok.
[05:15] <geoff918> @aboSamoor can you open a terminal window?
[05:15] <daddysmurf> that's like calling a Tarheels fan a "person"
[05:15] <Gnea> alexlea: it's just misplaced, we're a support channel and take it quite seriously.
[05:15] <Jordan_U> Tom1: It means that the problem probably isn't that you have an incomplete upgrade.
[05:15] <aboSamoor> geoff918, yes, I am a linux user for long time ;)
[05:15] <geoff918> can you try the alsamixer route?
[05:15] <alexlea> Gnea: well, my point i was tryng to make is *sometimes* abbreviations dont mean the same things for the same people
[05:16] <Tom1> Jordan_U: okay, i never noticed it with previous versions of ubuntu though
[05:16] <jerry> 有人吗？
[05:16] <alexlea> Gnea: i am all about following rules, usually...and now that i am aware i will not even use abbreviations in here...
[05:16] <jerry> 不会吧
[05:16] <FloodBot1> jerry: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:16] <Gnea> alexlea: which is quite offtopic. do you have an ubuntu-related question?
[05:16] <Scunizi> !cn | jerry
[05:16] <magicblaze0073> helios-eclipse has not arrived on ubuntu?
[05:16] <Gnea> alexlea: that's cool
[05:16] <alexlea> Gnea: i actually thought i was in #macosx when i saw the terminal comment
[05:16] <alexlea> Gnea: but no, i have no quesitons...i am an answerer
[05:16] <jerry> please speak chinese
[05:17] <electrofreak> I just realized my fresh ubuntu install did not see my DVD burners... neither of them. any ideas?
[05:17] <aboSamoor> geoff918, alsamixer is still reaching the same 100% but not the max
[05:17] <rww> jerry: /join #ubuntu-cn
[05:17] <jerry> i dont speak english
[05:17] <jerry> ？
[05:17] <Gnea> alexlea: awesome
[05:17] <jerry> nobody
[05:17] <Jordan_U> Tom1: If you log out and back in again does the login screen freeze the same way?
[05:18] <jerry> how to make full screen？
[05:18] <digital_838> Why does Ubuntu download packages during installation?  Isn't everything on the CD?
[05:18] <jerry> yes
[05:18] <electrofreak> digital_838, for updates
[05:18] <Tom1> Jordan_U: yes, i tried it several times
[05:18] <digital_838> But I didn't check the option to download updates.
[05:19] <Tom1> Jordan_U: sometimes it's better though
[05:19] <digital_838> So why would it download them anyway?
[05:19] <jerry> do you speak chinese  icant speak english
[05:19] <electrofreak> digital_838, did you select to install non-free stuff? MP3, Flash player, etc...?
[05:19] <Scunizi> digital_838: if you're plugged into the net it will update some packages for you on install... you still need a full "update" after install to catch everything.
[05:19] <digital_838> Yes
[05:19] <digital_838> Ok thanks.
[05:20] <digital_838> And last question... Is PulseAudio working ok for you guys?
[05:20] <Scunizi> yep
[05:20]  * Gnea doesn't use pulseaudio
[05:20] <digital_838> Ok thanks again
[05:20] <jerry> i don't understand
[05:20] <Scunizi> !cm
[05:20] <Gnea> jerry: you need help in chinese?
[05:20] <jerry> ?
[05:20] <Scunizi> !cn
[05:20] <jerry> no
[05:20] <Scunizi> no?
[05:21] <jerry>  i cant speak english
[05:21] <digital_838> I cannot play World of Warcraft anymore using Wine with whatever PulseAudio changes happened between 10.4 and 10.10
[05:21] <JoeMaverickSett> !cn | jerry
[05:21] <Gnea> jerry: but you can speak chinese?
[05:21] <jerry> yes
[05:21] <digital_838> The sound lasts about 30 seconds, starts stuttering and then just quits entirely.
[05:21] <Gnea> jerry: okay, #ubuntu is English-only.
[05:21] <jerry> o
[05:21] <digital_838> Is there a #Wine channel?
[05:21] <Gnea> jerry: #ubuntu-cn, #ubuntu-tw and #ubuntu-hk are chinese, depending on which area you prefer
[05:21] <Gnea> digital_838: #winehq
[05:21] <Jordan_U> Tom1: When the login screen freezes can you even move the cursor?
[05:21] <digital_838> Thanks.
[05:22] <Gnea> jerry: does that make sense?
[05:22] <jerry> thanks
[05:22] <beejeebus> hi, i'm having trouble getting virtualbox-3.2 running on maverick
[05:22] <beejeebus> beejeebus: version 3.2.10 leads to the output in the pastebin: http://pastebin.com/yKPfxMGi
[05:22] <beejeebus> i'm using the virtualbox repository as per: http://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Linux_Downloads
[05:22] <Maahes> does the "Make Startup Disk" option of creating a usb install allow you to choose the size of the swap partition?
[05:22] <digital_838> Gnea do you use Alsa instead of Pulse Audio?
[05:22] <Gnea> digital_838: yes
[05:22] <Tom1> Jordan_U: no, I can't hit enter either
[05:23] <digital_838> Gnea:  It's all stable and good even after removing PulseAudio?
[05:23] <Gnea> digital_838: on my systems, yes
[05:23] <digital_838> Cool thx.
[05:23] <digital_838> Appreciate the info Gnea
[05:23] <Gnea> digital_838: there are some soundcards that require pulseaudio for full use, though
[05:23] <Scunizi> beejeebus: looks like you have a bad dkms.conf file.. you might rename it and try the install again.. your paste/post shows the actual location of the file.
[05:24] <beejeebus> Scunizi: thanks, i'll give that a whirl
[05:24] <jerry> 晕
[05:25] <digital_838> Gnea:  I could be wrong, but it seems to me that PulseAudio is lagging my whole system.  I get lots of messages in /Var/Logs/Messages and the system gets periods of sluggishness for a few seconds and then it just goes away.  Like I could type, and my input is being buffered and not displayed.  After a few seconds, everything catches up.  I want to see if this is PulseAudio causing this.
[05:25] <grokgov> sdfsasdf
[05:25] <digital_838> So I'm going to try to remove it.
[05:26] <grokgov> pulseaudio has caused me a lot of issues as well...
[05:26] <Gnea> digital_838: unfortunately, pulseaudio hasn't been designed within ubuntu very well to do proper detection, it just blindly assumes that it will work
[05:26] <Maahes> Anyone? Ever made a USB install with the ubuntu disk?
[05:26] <Gnea> !usb | Maahes
[05:27] <digital_838> Did they do something different in 10.10 with PulseAudio that they did in Lucid?  Could it just be a Kernel issue?
[05:27] <neitengeuker> hi
[05:27] <neitengeuker> hoi
[05:28] <Gnea> digital_838: pulseaudio is a daemon, not a kernel module. it sits on top of alsa, basically
[05:28] <Scunizi> digital_838: I occationally get that "lag" with the computer on my 10.04 kubuntu install as well.. haven't had time to try figuring it out.
[05:28] <Tom1> Jordan_U: i just did a complete shutdown and the curse is still frozen at the login screen
[05:29] <Scunizi> digital_838: although it's not consistant.. I put my machine through a lot during the day..
[05:29] <digital_838> Same here
[05:30] <Scunizi> digital_838: my suspicion is the video driver.. I'm currently using the stock supplied nvidia driver from Hardware Manager.. it's not the most current driver available..
[05:30] <digital_838> Scunizi that seems like a likely suspect.
[05:30] <digital_838> I hate doing manual installs of the NVidia driver tho : (
[05:31] <digital_838> But I guess that's something to try too.  Thanks
[05:31] <Scunizi> digital_838: don't bother.. it's a real pain on 10.10 & 10.04.. there's a PPA with the latest on Launchpad that makes it a breeze
[05:31] <Jordan_U> Tom1: Could you pastebin the output of "dmesg" and the contents of /var/log/Xorg.0.log ?
[05:32] <apz_> Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/hardy-backports/universe/binary-powerpc/Packages.gz  404 Not Found [IP: <IP_ADDRESS> 80]
[05:32] <Tom1> the output doesn't all fit in the terminal
[05:33] <aidrocsid> How do i mark files as executable?
[05:33] <aidrocsid> :(
[05:33] <blakkheim> aidrocsid: man chmod
[05:33] <apz_> is edgy the only one with ppc?
[05:33] <aidrocsid> ty
[05:33] <Scunizi> aidrocsid: sudo chmod +x <file name>
[05:33] <apz_> just using it as a simple server :)
[05:36] <Tom1> Jordan_U: here is the log file http://paste.ubuntu.com/520558/
[05:37] <apz_> any help?
[05:37] <Tom1> what would you like me to do about the terminal output?
[05:37] <Jordan_U> apz_: No, there are current releases with PPC support, they're just not officially supported by Ubuntu/Canonical.
[05:38] <hax0r1> what's the name of ubuntu's 10.04 theme? Where can I find it?
[05:38] <Maahes> Gnea: It didn't exactly answer the question I had though, which was: Does installing from ubuntu allow you to choose the size of the swap partition?
[05:39] <Scunizi> Maahes: only if you manually do the partitioning while in that section during install. Or by partitioning prior to install.
[05:39] <daddysmurf> how can I tell aptitude/synaptic to not upgrade my kernel?
[05:39] <gartral> Maahes: yes, but you need to partition manually
[05:39] <Gnea> Maahes: oh, you didn't ask that initially. yes, you can.
[05:40] <Maahes> Gnea: I had, but about 20 lines above, I was referring to my previous question. It's cool ^_^
[05:40] <Jordan_U> apz_: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PowerPCDownloads
[05:40] <Gnea> Maahes: cheers :)
[05:40] <mustu> Good Morning
[05:40] <nullp0inter> i am trying to use pgrep click to find the pids of programs called clickxxxx but it isnt returning anything...any ideas?
[05:41] <Maahes> It saves me a lot of time to be able to do it that way. Otherwise I'd have to go over to the windows machine I have admin rights on, download, and install that way, because the usb-creator utility requires admin rights for some reason
[05:41] <neo__> Hola
[05:41] <billy_> hi folks - where do i go to get the source code for mlocate?
[05:41] <Scunizi> billy_: you might find it on packages.ubuntu.com
[05:42] <Gnea> billy_: by using apt-get source
[05:42] <Tom1> Jordan_U: okay, i figured it out...here is the output from the terminal http://paste.ubuntu.com/520560/
[05:42] <billy_> thanks folks
[05:42] <Gnea> billy_: apt-get source mlocate
[05:42] <neo__> Hola a todos
[05:42] <gartral> Maahes: it requires elevated rights because it bypasses Windows' drive cacheing and directly writes to the usb stick (considered dangerous for some f-ed-up reason)
[05:42] <OEP> I'm working on restoring my grub2 (ubu 10.04) after a windows install... I've used the livecd method mentioned in the docs but I ended up with a grub prompt.. anyone else got a favorite method to do it?
[05:42] <gartral> !es | neo__
[05:43] <eaerth> does anyone have an acer in here?
[05:43] <eaerth> aspire 5100 to be specific - but all i'm wondering about are the etools quick keys on the keyboard.
[05:43] <Gnea> eaerth: that's not going to get you far... you're better off just stating the problem and make/model #
[05:44] <eaerth> Gnea: it's not necessarily a problem so much as an inquiry... i can't seem to find it searching the net.
[05:44] <rbnicknej> nullp0inter, 'pgrep click' should return what you're after. if it returns nothing, there are no running copies of that/those programs
[05:44] <eaerth> i'm just wondering if it's possible to hotkey acer's quick keys in ubuntu?
[05:45] <Scunizi> eaerth: try the live cd and see if they work
[05:45] <nullp0inter> rbnicknej: i needed pgrep -f ...thanks though!
[05:45] <eaerth> Scunizi: sorry, try the live cd to check if there is a driver for it orrr?
[05:45] <Gnea> eaerth: etools quick keys?
[05:45] <eaerth> Gnea: yes
[05:45] <Scunizi> eaerth: oh.. you looking for a driver ? to make the keys active?
[05:46] <Jordan_U> Tom1: I don't have any ideas at the moment.
[05:46] <Gnea> eaerth: I'm not following.... you want to make inactive keys active?
[05:46] <eaerth> i know it's an acer/windows thing but i was thinking maybe it could be made compatible with ubuntu? 'S
[05:46] <Tom1> Jordan_U: no problem, it's getting pretty late here
[05:46] <eaerth> Scunizi: yessss
[05:46] <Tom1> Jordan_U: thank you so much for your help the past few days though
[05:46] <eaerth> Gnea: yessir.
[05:46] <Gnea> !keys | eaerth
[05:46] <Gnea> eaerth: get keytouch
[05:46] <juk> is there anything to check for backdoors
[05:47] <Scunizi> eaerth: these are "special" keys on your computer?  You might find they work out of the box.. try the live cd.. otherwise you can alway try mapping them with keytouch
[05:47] <Tom1> Jordan_U: you saved me a ton of time and software installation headaches
[05:47] <Jordan_U> Tom1: You're welcome.
[05:47] <eaerth> Gnea, Scunizi, yeah, i have to map them but i can't fgure out what keymap to use from the provided ones, simply Acer Laptop mayhap?
[05:48] <Gnea> eaerth: no idea
[05:49] <Scunizi> eaerth: typically the keyboard is autodiscovered on install or when running the live cd.. mapping with keytouch is after all that.
[05:49] <eaerth> Gnea, Scunizi - thanks guys, i'm checking out keytouch right now, hopefully it works! :D
[05:50] <eaerth> basically want to hotkey a toggle for compiz/metacity because for some reason compiz is giving me a black screen from time to time... maybe taking too mch cpu perhaps? i don't know... i can't figure out what's causing it but i'm hoping this toggle will at least get me out of the black screen without having to shut down every time.
[05:51] <Eua> hello
[05:51] <gurpreet> hi
[05:52] <Eua> oh,hi
[05:52] <Scunizi> eaerth: ah.. you could use .bash_aliases to put the command in.. when it black screens ctrl+alt+F2 login and then issue the command you associate with the alias.. ctrl+alt+F7 back to gui
[05:52] <infid> trying to wine a .exe and it says to 'install the windows version of mono to use .NET' what should i do?
[05:53] <katronixserf> install mono
[05:53] <prabha> hi all
[05:54] <eaerth> Scunizi: that's the thing though, i think compiz takes over the whole screen so even when i try bringing up terminal it stays black... but some process still work because i can still shut down properly...
[05:54] <prabha> when i try creating the base image of Windows 2003 server with qemu-kvm. the windows machine boots again and agin with the setup files
[05:55] <Scunizi> eaerth: go direct to a tty with ctrl+alt+f2 .. might lag a bit to get there.. but it should get there.
[05:56] <infid> katronixserf: how though? in wine? normally, what?
[05:56] <katronixserf> normally, windows doesn't use mono
[05:56] <Scunizi> prabha: you doing that direct from the cd or did you create an iso from the cd?
[05:56] <MagusOTB_> how do I install the oracle JRE?
[05:57] <Scunizi> MagusOTB_: sudo apt-get install sun-java-jre
[05:57] <MagusOTB> Scunizi: thanks
[05:57] <prabha> i m doing from iso
[05:57] <eaerth> Scunizi: alright, i'll try that too... thanks man.
[05:57] <prabha> kvm -m 1024 -cdrom /root/windows-server.iso -drive file=windownew.img,if=scsi,boot=off -nographic -vnc :1
[05:58] <prabha> i m using this command
[05:58] <Scunizi> prabha: perhaps a bad iso.. sorry I really don't have any idea.. perhaps there's a qemu channel.
[05:58] <allaire> how can I check under what user apache is running? I'm on ubuntu 10.04
[05:58] <ajay_> me using too
[05:58] <prabha> i can view in the vnc viewer
[05:58] <ajay_> on Xampp
[05:58] <ajay_> ?
[05:58] <MagusOTB> Scunii: no such package...
[05:58] <prabha> but it keeps on coming to setup file
[05:58] <Scunizi> allaire: it runs under www-data I believe
[05:58] <obs3rv3r> allaire: Yes it runs under www-data in Ubuntu.
[05:59] <allaire> ok
[05:59] <Scunizi> MagusOTB: use synaptic package manager and enable the partners repository.. refresh.. search for sun-java.. should be there.
[05:59] <allaire> so for upload directory or logs directory, I should chown it to that user?
[05:59] <allaire> instead of using chmod 777
[05:59] <Scunizi> allaire: you tring to install joomla or something?
[06:00] <allaire> no
[06:00] <obs3rv3r> allaire: Yes the uploads directory if has write permissions to that user should suffice.
[06:00] <Scunizi> allaire: then yes.. chown for that user.
[06:01] <Soraya> Hi Guys in my updates configurations i have a option for maverick look  http://imagebin.org/120463 im using 10.4 lucid
[06:01] <allaire> but if I chown it to that specific user, I wont be able to upload anything in it via my sftp no?
[06:01] <MagusOTB> Scunizi: for future reference, it's sun-java6-jre
[06:01] <Soraya> can i install updates from maverick ?
[06:01] <Soraya> in my 10.4 vertion
[06:01] <Scunizi> MagusOTB: I knew I missed something.. glad you found it.
[06:01] <Jordan_U> Soraya: No.
[06:02] <MagusOTB> Soraya: it's not a question of CAN, it's a question of SHOULD, and the answer is no.
[06:02] <Soraya> ok,too bad :(
[06:02] <eaerth> Soraya: well good morninggg
[06:03] <Guest2051> I added a user to the admin group but the user can't sudo su to root, anyone know why?
[06:03] <prabha> when i m trying to create a base image of windows 2003 server,the windows boot with the setup files again and again
[06:03] <Jordan_U> !root | Guest2051
[06:03] <dr0id> how to get rid of chat logs ?
[06:04] <dr0id> on skype
[06:04] <gartral> Guest2051: you didn't add them to the sudoers file, did ya?
[06:04] <Guest2051> gartral, i used visudo
[06:04] <Scunizi> Guest2051: sudo is normal.. sometimes you have to have extended root access to install something.. sudo -i will get you to the same place you expected with sudo su.. but correctly.
[06:06] <Guest2051> Scunizi, sudo -i does not work.. I can sudo su to root using the user I used to install ubuntu, how do I duplicate this functionality with a new user?
[06:06] <gartral> Guest2051: SUDOERS file
[06:06] <gartral> Guest2051: man sudo
[06:07] <Scunizi> Guest2051: sorry above my paygrade.. gartral might have the answer
[06:07] <Guest2051> gartral, i'm very familiar w/ sudoers, it has this line "%admin ALL=(ALL) ALL" and the user in question is in the admin group (via /etc/groups)
[06:07] <Jordan_U> Guest2051: Can you pastebin your /etc/sudoers and the output of "groups" as one of the users that can't use sudo?
[06:07] <jamescar1> hmmm.. my mousepad doesnt work :(
[06:09] <_jesse_> dr0id: they are in ~/.Skype/
[06:10] <dr0id> in chatsync folder?
[06:10] <_jesse_> dr0id: nah under your username
[06:10] <_jesse_> dr0id: .Skype/USERNAME/*.dbb
[06:10] <Guest2051> Jordan_U, paste bin: http://dpaste.com/264767/  ... i want the adfrontiers user to have sudo su - access just like the brett user has.
[06:11] <dr0id> _jesse_: quite a few .dbb files
[06:11] <dr0id> but lesser than the people to whome I talk lol :P
[06:12] <_jesse_> dr0id: hmm, well that's where they all are stored
[06:12] <uLinux> hello
[06:13] <NerwenGreen> Hi.
[06:13] <dr0id> _jesse_: I got 88contacts but only 22 dbb file, so are you sure again ?
[06:13] <NerwenGreen> I'm trying out Ubuntu using the live CD (10.04.1). I tried to mount a flash drive using sudo, but it tells me I need a password? What's the password to user ubuntu?
[06:14] <Scunizi> NerwenGreen: hit enter
[06:14] <NerwenGreen> when I did that, it told me "ubuntu is not in the sudoers file. This incident will be reported."
[06:14] <_jesse_> dr0id: I believe that the chats are logged in the same file
[06:15] <_jesse_> dr0id: chatmsg256.dbb e.g. could have many chats
[06:15] <dr0id> ic
[06:15] <dr0id> how can I open them ?
[06:15] <dr0id> say in gedit/kate ?
[06:15] <Jordan_U> Guest2051: What is the exact error from sudo, and could you please actually pastebin the output of "groups" as user adfrontiers?
[06:16] <xsylon> hi
[06:16] <_jesse_> dr0id: no they are in some byte format
[06:16] <dr0id> also along with me, my partner remains online on this account, so when he is offline and say I am talking to somebody, then he comes online, can he see those chat logs?
[06:16] <_jesse_> dr0id: I believe skype has a way to view them
[06:16] <_jesse_> dr0id: on seperate computers?
[06:16] <dr0id> yes
[06:17] <gartral> dr0id: yes, skype stores all logs on their servers.. there's not really a way to get them off
[06:17] <_jesse_> dr0id: I'm not sure
[06:17] <xsylon> someone speaks Romanian?
[06:17] <xsylon> someone speaks Romanian?
[06:17] <_jesse_> try asking #skype
[06:17] <dr0id> gartral: issh :(
[06:17] <gartral> dr0id: case in point: don't use skype.. ever
[06:18] <xsylon> vorbeste careva romana?
[06:18] <xsylon> vorbeste careva romana?
[06:18] <xsylon> vorbeste careva romana?
[06:18] <FloodBot1> xsylon: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:18] <_jesse_> gartral: are you sure the logs are stored centrally? I'm having trouble finding that in the docs
[06:19] <dr0id> gartral: #skype says it's stored in the computer :)
[06:19] <dr0id> _jesse_: also #skype has only 3 buds :P
[06:20] <Jordan_U> Guest2051: I know it may seem pointless, but since your /etc/group looks fine and it sounds like your /etc/sudoers is correct as well it means there's something we're missing, so it helps to just confirm that the user is in the group as expected.
[06:21] <pranay_09> hi, could anyone please tell me a good software for karoke in ubuntu, i installed pykaroke but it's not working
[06:21] <Guest2051> Jordan_U, the missing part is I was entering in the wrong password, I changed the password and now it works. Thanks
[06:22] <Jordan_U> Guest2051: You're welcome.
[06:22] <_jesse_> dr0id: I'm thinking the logs aren't stored centrally, but you could test it empircally
[06:22] <ramk> how to install openSSL
[06:23] <Guest2051> so yeah i am gonna work for google rite, but I get stumped with the wrong password.. I amaze myself
[06:23] <obs3rv3r> ramk: search for it on the synaptic package manager.
[06:23] <ramk> oh ok
[06:23] <_jesse_> lol
[06:23] <day> heloo
[06:23] <day> heloooo
[06:23] <Pr3nt1c3> I'm having trouble getting a morse-code training program (morse) working:  errors are -> a) I don't appear to have access to the speaker from the terminal, and b) I don't have perms to use /dev/console (chmod a+w)
[06:23] <voidmage> is ubuntu-mozilla-security still the right ppa for firefox 4.0? it's showing up as empty on launchpad
[06:25] <Scunizi> Pr3nt1c3: there's an ubuntu ham channel.. I think it's #ubuntu-ham.. there's also a Ham group on Launchpad and it might have reference for the right channel.
[06:25] <coz_> Pr3nt1c3,   did you see this?   http://www.cydeweys.com/blog/2008/06/23/learn-morse-code-in-linux/
[06:26] <gartral> Pr3nt1c3: are you sure your trying to use the right sound server?
[06:26] <Pr3nt1c3> actually, I was browsing catb.org, and noticed the prog... so I ran an apt-get
[06:26] <Pr3nt1c3> I can now run it, but no sound
[06:26] <hariom> Hi, is there any way to know the origin country of a file?
[06:27] <Pr3nt1c3> gartral, not sure... I have 10.10, and ALSA running... and there's no option in terminal - profile prefs to choose sound server
[06:28] <Jordan_U> hariom: The most likely anser is no, but what type of file?
[06:29] <Pr3nt1c3> gartral, and there's no option in morse to select sound server
[06:29] <NerwenGreen> What's the password for user ubuntu to use sudo from a 10.04.1 live CD? Hitting enter just gets me "ubuntu is not in the sudoers file. This incident will be reported."
[06:29] <neitengeuker> NerwenGreen: the password is 1234
[06:29] <hariom> Jordan_U: It is an open office file
[06:30] <hariom> Excel file
[06:30] <coz_> Pr3nt1c3,   in terminal if you do   morse -i  does it report a permission problem?
[06:30] <NerwenGreen> neitengeuker: it says "sorry, try again"
[06:31] <Pr3nt1c3> coz_, not any more, I fixed the perms
[06:31] <Pr3nt1c3> now it's just sound
[06:31] <pseudomorph> Hey folks, I have an issue with Banshee's output volume compared to other apps (Rythmbox, Mplayer etc). While all the other app output vol's are about the same Banshee is _really_ quiet, even with the internal slider up at 100%. Ubuntu 10.04 & Banshee 1.8 from thePPA. Any ideas?
[06:32] <flaccid> whats the password to the ubuntu user on the desktop cd? screen is locked and is asking for pass
[06:32] <coz_> Pr3nt1c3,   mm same here  actually    have you tried    aldo    sudo apt-get install aldo   although i would reach about it first
[06:32] <Pr3nt1c3> hmm, no I haven't coz_
[06:32] <_jesse_> flaccid: just leave it blank
[06:33] <flaccid> _jesse_: it says authentication failure
[06:33] <_jesse_> then something went wrong
[06:33] <_jesse_> it's just the normal live CD ?
[06:34] <Pr3nt1c3> afk: if anyone knows how to get speakers working for morse from terminal, let me know (I've already enabled systm speaker, and a sound theme from alsa prefs)
[06:34] <coz_> Pr3nt1c3,   here is alist of  possible trainers   http://blog.mypapit.net/2007/06/morse-code-training-application-on-ubuntu-linux.html    here is aldo's homepage   http://www.nongnu.org/aldo/     and this is the link I gave before for morse    http://www.nongnu.org/aldo/
[06:34] <flaccid> _jesse_: yes desktop 10.10 cd
[06:34] <_jesse_> flaccid: hrm
[06:34] <_jesse_> flaccid: try rebooting it
[06:35] <flaccid> ok
[06:35] <goltoof_> so there's vim tutor... are there any other console tutors like that for say python? php? shell?
[06:36] <coz_> Pr3nt1c3,  did you open a terminal and type  alsamixer   and take a look at the sliders to see if volume is down or muted?
[06:38] <ramk> obs3rv3r: how to login to synaptic package manager as administrator
[06:38] <brokendatapoint> hi all, how would i look for a sound process that is making an unusual sound effect at seemingly random times?
[06:39] <rocket16> Is it possible to implement the functionality in Nautilus, by virtue of which Dolphin is able to play Videos without opening them (in the sidebar)?
[06:39] <rocket16> ramk: Well, whenever you open it, it asks for the password and you're logged in as the root.
[06:40] <ramk> nope
[06:40] <ramk> its doesnt ask me for my password
[06:40] <obs3rv3r> ramk: System>Adminstration>synaptic package manager .... give a password.
[06:40] <obs3rv3r> wow
[06:40] <ramk> it jus opens
[06:40] <coz_> ramk,  did you open it within the last few minutes of having opened it?
[06:40] <rocket16> ramk: Then whenever you make changed, it will ask you the password.
[06:40] <ramk> its not asking
[06:41] <rocket16> * changes
[06:41] <rocket16> coz_ os right, sometimes root privileges remain for 10 minutes (sudo/gksudo).
[06:41] <obs3rv3r> rocket16: true .
[06:41] <obs3rv3r> rocket16: 5 minutes I guess .
[06:41] <Jordan_U> hariom: While I wouldn't rule out the possibility I wouldn't know specifically to go about it. Some information that I wouldn't be surprised to see in an Excel file would be the time zone (for dates) and the local currency symbol. The codepage would certainly be in the Exel file, but these days that will almost always be UTF8 no matter what country it's from.
[06:42] <rocket16> obs3rv3r: Indeed, I am not sure regarding the duration.
[06:42] <coz_> rocket16,  does dolphin allow mouse over video?  is that what you meant?
[06:42] <coz_> i doubt it though
[06:43] <rocket16> coz_: Actually, whenever you select the video, you get a small display in the right, on the sidebar (video preview). And you get small buttons like 'Play', 'Pause', 'Stop' and so on. When one clicks on 'Play', it starts playing on the preview window.
[06:44] <hgh> hi
[06:44] <rocket16> coz_: It uses Phonon.
[06:44] <rocket16> Hi hgh
[06:44] <coz_> ramk,   if you open synaptic  once   the system will hold onto your password for several minutes until it is released  so when you re open synaptic it will NOT ask for password   I am not sure of the current  password  time limit on maverick
[06:44] <coz_> rocket16,  ah ok
[06:44] <hgh> hey can someone help me with some c++ programing ?
[06:45] <hgh> hi rocket16
[06:45] <coz_> rocket16,  I am not sure there is a nautilus "video prview"  for side panel ...that one you may have to google  for a bit :)
[06:45] <coz_> rocket16,  unless , of course someone here knows :)
[06:45] <hgh> i cannot get this to run , http://pastebin.com/nAT9qg8N
[06:45] <ramk> when i closed and opened it again
[06:45] <TheSarge> Can you dist-upgrade to amd64 from i386?
[06:45] <ramk> its still not asking
[06:45] <rocket16> coz_: Indeed, I tried the same, and the results are negative. :D
[06:45] <coz_> ramk,   right  then you will not get a password prompt
[06:45] <rocket16> coz_: Still, thanks for the help. :)
[06:45] <hgh> i am really new to this  cpp
[06:45] <OEP> I'm  failing really bad at recovering grub2 after a windows install; has anyone had any luck with this?
[06:46] <Maahes> what's the command to see what running processes are using a particular resource?
[06:46] <rocket16> hgh: I believe ##C++ will help.
[06:46] <OEP> Maahes: lsof I think
[06:46] <coz_> rocket16,  sorry I have searched and tried various optons for  even mouse over video preview  and none out there ..at least none that seem to work well
[06:46] <ramk> where i can set that wen everytime i  open synaptic
[06:46] <ramk> i want prompt
[06:46] <hgh> i tried that channel , but i cannot 	##c++ Cannot send to channel
[06:46] <galoisfield> Maahes:
[06:46] <TheSarge> Anyone? Dist-upgrade from i386 to amd64?
[06:47] <rocket16> hgh: Then ##C++-basic will be better
[06:47] <galoisfield> Maahes: type top
[06:47] <coz_> ramk,  that one I am not sure of... it is set  systemically to hold on to the password for a few minutes  ...maybe less...
[06:47] <ramk> some command to set the pref i believe
[06:47] <gurpreet> Maahes, if you meant a file then look up lsof
[06:47] <ramk> let me go a round for it
[06:47] <Maahes> galoisfield: nono, what I mean is. I have a volume I can't unmount because something is using something in it. I want to find out what is using the volume and kill it.
[06:48] <ramk> sometimes im confuzed which level im in for that app in linux
[06:48] <ramk> sometimes i need super user
[06:48] <OEP> Maahes: wild guess, but lsof /dev/* ?
[06:48] <ramk> else sometime it doenst care
[06:48] <krishnandu> OEP, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[06:48] <TheSarge> Dying distro I guess everyone went to Ubuntu?
[06:48] <rocket16> ramk: In a terminal, type ""gksudo --description /usr/share/applications/synaptic.desktop /usr/sbin/synaptic". If it asks for password, it's ok. Or else, you're already using it as the root.
[06:48] <galoisfield> Maahes: then lsof shud work i thnk..
[06:49] <coz_> rank  its not that it doesnt care...it is simply holding onto the password  for a minute or so ...it will expire
[06:49] <OEP> krishnandu: yeah I am reading that... I've followed the standard grub-install method and got different results each time
[06:49] <rocket16> ramk: Without the quotes certainly.
[06:49] <ramk> certainly
[06:49] <ramk> :)
[06:49] <rocket16> :)
[06:49] <_jesse_> TheSarge: that sounds like a bad idea; I'd just wipe and start from scratch
[06:49] <krishnandu> OEP, Ohh...I followed that and I succeeded
[06:50] <OEP> krishnandu: hah, I must have something special going on. out of curiosity, what was your partition setup like?
[06:50] <ramk> rocket16: it didnt ask still
[06:50] <TheSarge> _jesse_: Eh the wireless sucks to setup though
[06:50] <ramk> im really confuzed more now
[06:50] <ramk> :(
[06:51] <krishnandu> OEP, / and swap
[06:51] <rocket16> ramk: Then you're already the root. No need to worry, you are just having the sudo privileges.
[06:51] <roberto_> ola galera
[06:51] <_jesse_> TheSarge: ah, well switching to 64bit would more than likely use different wifi drivers anyway if that's what you are referring to?
[06:51] <ramk> i dont want to be in as root
[06:51] <krishnandu> OEP, Windows - NTFS-Data-/-swap-arch
[06:51] <TheSarge> _jesse_: ouch I didn't think of that
[06:51] <ramk> i want to see my privileges? where can i ?
[06:52] <obs3rv3r> ramk group
[06:52] <OEP> krishnandu: ok. I have windows on sda1 with boot there, /, /home, and swap all on sdb. I've since merged /boot and /
[06:52] <OEP> I really miss Old Grub :(
[06:52] <coz_> ramk,   when I open synaptic for the first time it asks  for password,,, then I close synaptic .. shortly afterwards I open synaptic again because i want to install something else...but it will not ask for password  again  since the password did not expire from when I just opened it
[06:52] <obs3rv3r> s/group/groups/g
[06:53] <hgh> slackware irc ?anyone ?
[06:53] <Krishnandu> OEP, Then I think you must install grub2 in sdb. Not sure.
[06:53] <wcchandler> Could it be possible to select different software to be installed on Ubuntu before installation?  My problem is that I want to install an entire system, not a live system on a 2GB thumb drive
[06:53] <_jesse_> TheSarge: run the 64bit live cd just to see; perhaps you'll be lucky and it'll work out of the box
[06:53] <ramk> coz: i understood what u said.... all im asking is where i can defer it . i want it to ask everytime the password
[06:53] <coz_> maybe there is a way to  disable the time for password expiration
[06:53] <Krishnandu> hgh, ##slackware
[06:53] <ramk> i dont want it to store the pass
[06:53] <OEP> Krishnandu: well that's the drive which it overwrites the MBR right? I put it in sda, and it booted, but I only got a grub prompt with no OS choices...
[06:54] <OEP> now I get the error [some-UUID]: device not found
[06:54] <coz_> ramk,   mm   well I believe that would be stored in  /etc/shadow
[06:55] <coz_> ramk,  let me check
[06:55] <Krishnandu> OEP, Well...that means the drive is not there.
[06:55] <neitengeuker> hemp is stored in /etc/weed
[06:55] <obs3rv3r> ramk: are you in the roots group ?
[06:55] <obs3rv3r> root's
[06:55] <ramk> dont know
[06:55] <suncity> hi
[06:55] <suncity> hi
[06:56] <OEP> Krishnandu: hehe, ok I just installed grub to sdb's MBR so let's see what happens
[06:56] <_jesse_> ramk: `sudo visudo` and add the line Defaultstimestamp_timeout = 0
[06:56] <obs3rv3r> neitengeuker:  a bad thing I cannot smoke up my hemp tee and get high :)
[06:56] <Krishnandu> OEP, :)
[06:56] <_jesse_> ramk: that will tell it not to cache
[06:56] <_jesse_> oops
[06:56] <suncity> i have   problem  my ubuntu desktop
[06:56] <_jesse_> ramk: should be Defaults     timestamp_timeout = 0
[06:56] <_jesse_> with spaces
[06:56] <_jesse_> or tabs or whatever
[06:56] <ramk> cool will try..... i can reset it back too right
[06:56] <_jesse_> ramk: yeah just remove or comment that line
[06:58] <OEP> (To whom I was talking to before): The result was it booted to hda anyway and got sad it couldn't find the device
[06:59] <pawpaw> hi all. Anyone knows how to install windows from USB by creating the bootable usb windows installation image on Ubuntu only?
[07:00] <Krishnandu> OEP, which device sda or sdb??
[07:00] <Krishnandu> OEP, sorry, hda or hdb??
[07:00] <OEP> Krishnandu: sorry, sda
[07:00] <OEP> oh that it couldn't find some UUID which probably doesn't exist anymore
[07:01] <OEP> or perhaps a UUID which was located on the other disk that it didn't know about
[07:01] <Krishnandu> OEP, no idea :(
[07:01] <OEP> hehe I'm going to swap them out and see if I can force windows to like being on SATA2
[07:02] <Krishnandu> OEP, Did you tried ubuntuforums??
[07:02] <ramk> _jesse_: tried it but when i save it asks for save under different name and saved and sudoers.tmp not changed
[07:03] <OEP> Krishnandu: nope I have not yet
[07:03] <ramk> need to overwrite the sudoers.tmp
[07:03] <barberan> Hi. I need some RADIUS solution on my ubuntu server
[07:03] <abhijit> hi
[07:04] <OEP> swapping the hard drives has it boot to the other hard drive and gives me a functional grub prompt :P
[07:04] <Krishnandu> OEP, Well, then try it if no one is able to answer here..
[07:04] <_jesse_> ramk: it asks to be saved under a different name? hmm let me see
[07:04] <ramk> yeah
[07:05] <OEP> Krishnandu: I will try it out before turning in for the night, thanks :)
[07:05] <Krishnandu> OEP, :)
[07:05] <_jesse_> ramk: works for me fine
[07:06] <_jesse_> ramk: what is the exact message it gives you?
[07:06] <Pr3nt1c3> coz_, I did, they're all up @ full volume, system beep is on, and my sound theme is standard ubu
[07:06] <coz_> Pr3nt1c3,   oh!  mm I am not at all familiar with morese   altho   aldo works here .. i installed both to test
[07:07] <ramk> i opened .tmp ... pasted the line.... saved.... File Name to Write: /etc/sudoers.tmp
[07:07] <safetynet> Is there a channel for Ubuntu begginers?
[07:07] <coz_> Pr3nt1c3,   here I cant get morese to use speaker  or sound card   aldo does
[07:07] <ramk> _jesse_: what i give for the file name
[07:07] <_jesse_> ramk: no, you shouldn't edit the file directly
[07:07] <_jesse_> ramk: do `sudo visudo`
[07:07] <_jesse_> to edit the file
[07:07] <ramk> yeah
[07:08] <ramk> i did thro sudo visudo
[07:08] <_jesse_> what editor does it use?
[07:08] <Blue1> !hashes
[07:08] <deepakk> is there any test chatroom where i can try out irc commands
[07:08] <LOLPIE> hey
[07:08] <ramk> gnu nano
[07:08] <LOLPIE> does anyone here know c++
[07:08] <_jesse_> dkannan: you realize you can just join a channel that doesn't exists and it will create it yes?
[07:09] <ramk> _jesse_: gnu nano
[07:09] <Krishnandu> dkannan, Join any channel say your name #dkannan and try them out so no-one gets disturbed
[07:09] <_jesse_> ramk: gotcha, and when you go to save it prompts for the filename, and then what happens if you try to save it to that file?
[07:09] <tgies> anyone know off the top of their head the name of the actual binary for the gnome "appearance" applet
[07:10] <ramk> but how i gave same path /etc/sudoers.tmp
[07:10] <ramk> i thro error
[07:10] <Pr3nt1c3> yeah, but I can't use aldo to take input directly from input / keyboard... only random, or file.
[07:10] <coz_> tgies,   do you mean  gnome-appearance-properties
[07:10] <dkannan> _jesse_: thx never thought of that. duh
[07:10] <tgies> yes, thank you
[07:10] <ramk> but how i gave same p
[07:10] <ramk> _jesse_: it comes back silently to the same line
[07:11] <coz_> ramk,   this is a link that expains what _jesse_  is trying to tell you  http://www.webupd8.org/2010/04/how-to-change-sudo-password-time-out-in.html
[07:12] <_jesse_> ramk: what error message does it give you?
[07:13] <ramk> >>> /etc/sudoers: syntax error near line 28 <<<
[07:13] <neitengeuker> i am looking for  a girl with some ubuntu knowledge for special hours behind the screen
[07:13] <flaccid> aren't we all
[07:13] <coz_> neitengeuker,  wow thats interesting  but go to #ubuntu-offtopic
[07:14] <coz_> neitengeuker,  and good luck :)
[07:14] <dkannan> Krishnandu: how does that work, if my name has a hash in the beginning am i invisble?
[07:14] <obs3rv3r> haha
[07:15] <_jesse_> ramk: you are probably pasting the wrong line, copy/paste Defaults         timestamp_timeout = 0
[07:15] <_jesse_> make sure that all ends up on one line
[07:15] <neitengeuker> your name sounds klingon
[07:15] <Krishnandu> !offtopic | dkannan
[07:15] <Krishnandu> dkannan, Come thr
[07:16] <ramk> i pasted ...... Defaults timestamp_timeout = 0
[07:16] <ramk> all in one line
[07:17] <_jesse_> ramk: it should look like this: http://pastebin.com/JTYSA42g
[07:17] <_jesse_> note line 9
[07:20] <ramk> perfect
[07:20] <ramk> it worked
[07:20] <ramk> thx
[07:20] <coz_> :)
[07:20] <ramk> i pasted it as the line line
[07:20] <ramk> thx jesse and coz
[07:21] <ramk> i wonder whats wrong with pasting the line as the last line
[07:21] <MonthOLDpickle> whats the difference between xchat and xchat-gnome?
[07:21] <ramk> any syntax based??
[07:21] <Jordan_U> OEP: So at this point Ubuntu is booting but you can't boot windows?
[07:22] <voidmage> i've installed firefox 4.0 from ubuntu-mozilla daily and it's not detecting my flash plugin, what steps do i need to do to fix this?
[07:22] <_jesse_> ramk: hmm not sure, wouldn't think it would matter
[07:23] <ramk> _jesse_: makes me wonder and will be on my task list to understand
[07:23] <_jesse_> ramk: :)
[07:23] <kazoo> Is there anyway to stop Ubuntu from locking when i am not using it
[07:24] <kazoo> oh and i'm on Ubuntu 10.10
[07:24] <suncity> Oh  i am  on ubuntu 10.10
[07:24] <suncity> who use 10.10?
[07:25] <ramk> _jesse_: are u always log in to thiss channel.... if so i am a beginner i want to pester some one to understand ....
[07:25] <ramk> if so i want to pester u :)
[07:27] <suncity> can  i use android  theme  on ubuntu 10.10?
[07:27] <suncity> can  i use android  theme  on ubuntu 10.10?
[07:27] <obs3rv3r> suncity: if there is ... why would you not ?
[07:27] <suncity> can  i use android  theme  on ubuntu 10.10? who have that  theme?
[07:28] <adzy> Hi All!
[07:28] <celtibero> Hello
[07:28] <_jesse_> ramk: I am usually, but I would hardly consider myself anything more than a novice ;)
[07:28] <kazoo> Is there anyway to stop Ubuntu from locking when i am not using it?
[07:28] <celtibero> Can anybody help me, please?
[07:28] <celtibero> My Ubuntu is behaving very strange!
[07:28] <kazoo> I tried to go to battery but there's "Do Nothing"
[07:28] <_jesse_> !ask | celtibero
[07:28] <ramk> _jesse_: then i dont exist :)
[07:28] <kazoo> no *
[07:29] <suncity> who have  android  theme  or  Ubuntu 10.10?
[07:29] <obs3rv3r> kazoo: check on screen saver.
[07:29] <_jesse_> ramk: :P
[07:29] <suncity> who have  android  theme  for  Ubuntu 10.10?
[07:29] <obs3rv3r> !flood > suncity
[07:30] <celtibero> _jesse_ The problem comes whenever I try to make Jack and pulseaudio work together. If I uninstall PulseAudio, I have to manually type "startx" to go into the graphical interface.
[07:31] <ramk> _jesse_: i can pester u then.... i want to be born....
[07:31] <ranjan> Hi all,
[07:31] <kazoo> thank-you obs3rv3r
[07:32] <ranjan> i am trying to compile the indicator-me in fedora, and got a dependency problem for indicator >= 0.3.14. Where can i get the indicator package specified there?
[07:32] <bazhang> ranjan, try #fedora this is ubuntu support
[07:32] <Karen_m> if you have an array ref,   my $aref = func();  is there a way to set it as a normal array without an additional  line?   my (@{$ref}) = func();  or something?
[07:32] <MonthOLDpickle> Guys I am having issues with panes going off the screen mainly the buttons where you would hit okay or cancel..like trying to set up mail
[07:32] <MonthOLDpickle> Its due to my resolution and screen size
[07:32] <ranjan> bazhang, ok, but you might be knowing about the packages no?
[07:33] <bazhang> ranjan, no, its nothing to do with ubuntu support, ##linux or #fedora
[07:33] <MonthOLDpickle> anybody know a fix?
[07:33] <ranjan> bazhang, k
[07:34] <NOMADICUS> Hello.
[07:34] <obs3rv3r> MonthOLDpickle: screen resolution if you were using another display unit along with your system.
[07:34] <MonthOLDpickle> No default
[07:34] <MonthOLDpickle> fresh install
[07:34] <Jordan_U> MonthOLDpickle: Hold alt and click+drag the window past the top of the screen.
[07:34] <MonthOLDpickle> 8.9 screen at 1024x800
[07:34] <NOMADICUS> It seems to me that #debian is currently not accessible.  Is anyone else able to get to it, or is it just something misconfigured on my end?
[07:35] <_jesse_> NOMADICUS: I joined it fine
[07:35] <coz_> NOMADICUS,   I can get into #debian from here
[07:35] <bazhang> NOMADICUS, its set +r so you need to register
[07:35] <mal10c> NOMADICUS: I can get into #debian
[07:35] <_jesse_> NOMADICUS: http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#nicksetup
[07:35] <bazhang> !register | NOMADICUS
[07:35] <MonthOLDpickle> Jordan_U, Holding alt and clicking has no effect
[07:36] <bazhang> MonthOLDpickle, alt and drag
[07:36] <Balsaq> need help pulse audio bug?
[07:36] <faryshta> I hibernated my machine and then had to reboot manually when it didn't responded. The problem is that my audio isn't working now.
[07:36] <Balsaq> 1004
[07:36] <NOMADICUS> _jesse_: bazhang: faryshta: mal10c: _jesse_: bazhang: Ok, thanks!
[07:36] <celtibero> Hello again
[07:36] <Balsaq> screen goes black flashes
[07:36] <Balsaq> reboot and its ok for awhile
[07:36] <Balsaq> says something about pulse audio
[07:37] <Balsaq> 10.04?
[07:37] <celtibero> _jesse_ I've lost my Ubuntu loading screen...
[07:37] <faryshta> Balsaq you talking to me?
[07:37] <Jordan_U> MonthOLDpickle: You dragged the mouse?
[07:37] <Balsaq> anyone who can help
[07:37] <Balsaq> must be  hell of a bug in 1004
[07:37] <celtibero> _jesse_ Also, whenever I try to initiate the Jack server, it just doesn't work...
[07:37] <Balsaq> anyone know of a fix
[07:37] <faryshta> Which is your problem?
[07:37] <_jesse_> celtibero: :/ I don't know anything about Jack
[07:37] <celtibero> _jesse_ It's pulseaudio's fault...
[07:38] <Balsaq> screen goes black after an hour
[07:38] <celtibero> _jesse_ Do you know anyone who does?
[07:38] <Krishnandu> !patient | Balsaq
[07:38] <_jesse_> or much about pulseaudio for that matter
[07:38] <_jesse_> not offhand
[07:38] <Balsaq> !pulseaudio
[07:38] <coz_> celtibero,   you might want to try   #pulseaudio channel
[07:38] <Balsaq> !uninstallpulseaudio
[07:39] <Krishnandu> !flood | Balsaq
[07:39] <tim> any ideas where I can learn bulgarian free with ubuntu?? I have been on a very unsuccessful hunt
[07:39] <Balsaq> no thanks but i appreciate the offer
[07:40] <calamity> Hey all, I'm having issues with gnomad2. when I plug in my Zen Mozaic in, mtp doesn't detect the device.
[07:40] <calamity> I can access it through nautilus though. :\
[07:40] <celtibero> coz__ Thank you very much
[07:41] <v_v> www.google.com
[07:41] <v_v> 机器人全面罢工。。
[07:41] <Krishnandu> !cn | v_v
[07:43] <MonthOLDpickle> thanks guys
[07:44] <ylmf> hello everybody.
[07:44] <ylmf> exit
[07:46] <juk_> i purged apache why 80 still open?
[07:46] <calamity> Hey all, I'm having issues with gnomad2. when I plug in my Zen Mozaic in, mtp doesn't detect the device.
[07:46] <lallu_> which is best email client for ubuntu
[07:46] <Eua> hi
[07:46] <coz_> calamity,   I have no experience with that ...sorry
[07:47] <lallu_> k
[07:47] <calamity> :(
[07:47] <Eua> what's wrong?
[07:47] <lallu_> what
[07:48] <Eua> 8-)
[07:49] <kisuke> anyone know of a good compressed FS?
[07:50] <v_v> test
[07:50] <lacrymology> does anyone know what boulloncube is?
[07:50] <Eua> 你好！
[07:50] <lacrymology> google doesn't appear to
[07:50] <kisuke> Eua: nihon'go?
[07:50] <Eua> 哈哈
[07:51] <lacrymology> kisuke: that's chinese
[07:51] <gschwepp> !cn | Eua
[07:51] <Eua> Yes
[07:52] <Jordan_U> kisuke: btrfs may be an option, what's your use case?
[07:52] <kisuke> lacrymology: cant always tell the differnce beteween that and japanesse so i asked (rather ctudly) if it was japanesse
[07:52] <bianster> i've got named running on an intranet that resolves internal DNS and was working properly until I changed the zone file by deleting some entries that I wanted to handled by a public DNS. The problem is that all the private domain names don't get resolved while the public ones are
[07:53] <kisuke> Jordan_U: an external HDD, that used as a backup/sneakernet storage device
[07:54] <bianster> I realised after editing and restarting bind9 that the zone serial wasn't updated. But I'm still getting the problem after incrementing the serial and restarting bind9
[07:55] <faryshta> I hibernated my machine and then had to reboot manually when it didn't responded. The problem is that my audio isn't working now.
[07:56] <lacrymology> ok, so different question: does anyone know how to make a bootable USB pen from some linux image (puredyne) without using the startup disc creator tool? because it failed with a "bad OS identification string: GNU/Linux" error message, and puredyne's method which includes a script of their own seems to lock up my machine completely (which I didn't think was possible on linux)
[07:58] <Eua> Some would say Chinese?
[07:59] <blakkheim> !cn | Eua
[07:59] <dw-> just when I thought I found a nice photo app in f-spot I get crashes in 10.10/64 :)  http://paste.ubuntu.com/520618/
[07:59] <Bridge|> ok so i know how to find/use on-screen keyboard for login, but once i'm logged into ubuntu 10.04 where do i find the onsreeen keyboard?
[08:00] <Eua> Alright!
[08:00] <faryshta> Ati audio problems. What to do?
[08:00] <dw-> Bridge|: I figured it out. alt-f2 -> onboard
[08:00] <xianyansuiyu> \quit
[08:00] <Bridge|> ah i dont have a keyboard!!
[08:00] <dw-> Bridge|: haha
[08:01] <Bridge|> i tried assitive technologies and tits not under there
[08:01] <dw-> Bridge|: load a terminal and copy/paste some letters rofl
[08:01] <Bridge|> in the system==>prefs
[08:01] <kisuke> faryshta: does your card have restricted drivers?
[08:01] <Bridge|> so i have no idea where to look
[08:02] <coz_> Bridge|,   there is a virtual keyboard I know of that I install on occasion... I dont know if it can be called for login however  and there is one on maverick let me find it
[08:02] <K-Rich> Hi all, Empathy seems to be lacking in IRC support, can someone suggest a good alternative?
[08:02] <dw-> theres one called onboardl oad a terminal and copy/paste this: onboard
[08:02] <Jordan_U> kisuke: compFUSEd is an option.
[08:02] <kisuke> K-Rich: xchat, used to e included with ubuntu, and its solid
[08:02] <coz_> Bridge|,   go to system/preferences/main menu
[08:02] <Bridge|> naw i'm basically look for a mopuse only way to get to the onboard keyboard theat u can use on ubuntu login by default
[08:02] <blakkheim> K-Rich: irssi
[08:03] <kisuke> Jordan_U: any place you are pulling from?
[08:03] <dw-> Bridge|: add 'onboard' to your login script ?
[08:03] <celtibero> I need help with pulseaudio and jack, please...
[08:03] <coz_> Bridge|,   in the left column click   "Universal Access"  and in the right column tick the "onBOard"  box...close out of that and in the main Applications menu under Universal access  click the onBoard for the on screenkeyboard and look into its settings
[08:04] <kisuke> celtibero: can you be any more specific please? the more information we have the better we can help you
[08:04] <Jordan_U> kisuke: google :)
[08:04] <coz_> Bridge|,   i dont see  and options on the on screen keybaird for changing settings  but let me search for that
[08:05] <Bridge|> ty coz
[08:05] <kisuke> Jordan_U: ugh, thisis one fof the few time i dislike using google, looking omore for people who'd used it before
[08:05] <Bridge|> thats all i needed
[08:05] <Bridge|> ;)
[08:05] <coz_> Bridge|,  there is another one that can be installed named   Florence
[08:05] <coz_> Bridge|,  but again   I dont know about the settings for login
[08:05] <faryshta> kisuke not at all. My card haven't used restricted drivers since Ubuntu 7.04 when I installed it.
[08:06] <K-Rich> after looking, does pidgin work with the me menu?
[08:06] <coz_> Bridge|,  but when you enable that in the Main menu also enable the settings options
[08:07] <faryshta> The last time I was using it I hibernated and couldn't wake up my computer back.
[08:07] <faryshta> kisuke.
[08:07] <Bridge|> yea, this is the a 24/7 box i have running and no kb attached, i dont feel like find a nother kb atm i have three boxes in this rooom and another next door, , and i try to keep them with the least wires, any thing Vrtual kb does everything i need, But thanks a ton
[08:07] <faryshta> Then I rebooted manually and audio went to hell.
[08:07] <celtibero> kisuke Ok, the thing is: I'm a musician, and I need JACK server to make Ardour work. PulseAudio doesn't let me do that, and whenever I eliminate it, my boot screen disappears, among other strange things...
[08:07] <kisuke> K-Rich: me menu?
[08:08] <celtibero> kisuke I've been trying to make it work since Karmic was released, without success.
[08:08] <kisuke> celtibero: did you auto remove packages?
[08:08] <celtibero> kisuke I did.
[08:08] <Jordan_U> celtibero: You can setup pulse on top of Jack, though I'm not sure why removing puseaudio would affect your boot screen.
[08:08] <K-Rich> kisuke: where it says my name and i can update twitter and all
[08:08] <kisuke> celtibero: try the kernal ppa
[08:08] <celtibero> kisuke What's that?
[08:09] <kisuke> k- i *think* so, but i have no clue how to do it
[08:09] <dw-> kindly add this to the bug list for 10.10/64 with f-spot http://paste.ubuntu.com/520618/ :)
[08:09] <compaq> Hi, say I have a bunch of files arbitrarily named but with same type and I want to change their names to first.jpg, second.jpg, third.jpg, How would I do this?
[08:09] <dw-> compaq: theres some popular program that i dont know the name of
[08:10] <kisuke> !kernel > celtibero
[08:10] <dw-> compaq: just type rename into Synaptic
[08:11] <Blue1> compaq: you can use nautilus, or just simply mv oldfilename newfilename
[08:11] <kisuke> celtibero: that help you understand what a kernel is any?
[08:11] <celtibero> kisuke Yes, thank you.
[08:11] <celtibero> kisuke What is kernel ppa, by the way?
[08:12] <compaq> Blue1, yeah, mv works, things is I want to do them in batch, not one at a time
[08:12] <kisuke> celtibero: let me get the ubuntu kernal PPA up and i will give you the link,
[08:12] <celtibero> ok
[08:12] <Blue1> compaq: let me see - -I think you might want mmv can't remember the name
[08:12] <kisuke> celtibero: PPA are repositorys on launchpad, usually used to distrubite code thats not in the main repos
[08:13] <kisuke> !ppa > celtibero
[08:13] <faryshta> Audio not working after hibernation. What do?
[08:13] <Blue1> compaq: yeah mmv functions more like windows allows wildcarding.
[08:13] <compaq> its alright, I will just write a bash script and use a for loop
[08:14] <kisuke> faryshta: replug the cord, and see if it restarts?
[08:14] <kisuke> celtibero: you follow?
[08:14] <faryshta> kisuke what cord?
[08:15] <kisuke> celtibero: https://launchpad.net/~kernel-ppa/+archive/ppa
[08:15] <kisuke> faryshta: are you using a 3.5mm jack, s/pdif or HDMI?
[08:15] <kisuke> faryshta: or a set of internal speakers?
[08:16] <celtibero> kisuke Yes
[08:16] <faryshta> Internal laptop sound system.
[08:16] <dw-> wow f-spot is b0rked. (f-spot:9079): GdkPixbuf-CRITICAL **: gdk_pixbuf_new_subpixbuf: assertion `src_x >= 0 && src_x + width <= src_pixbuf->width' failed
[08:16] <faryshta> Let me plug my earings and see what happens.
[08:16] <celtibero> kisuke What do I do with that?
[08:16] <dw-> bunch of those almost crashed my comp til i killed it
[08:16] <kisuke> celtibero: add it to your sources and update ypur PC, see if that works
[08:17] <basso> anyone got the ubuntu backpack?
[08:17] <kisuke> faryshta: what is your audio system?
[08:18] <faryshta> kisuke, 00:14.2 Audio device: ATI Technologies Inc IXP SB4x0 High Definition Audio Controller (rev 01)
[08:18] <dusf> i'm trying to search all .log files in .irssi/irclogs for the string irssi but the command $HOME -name '*.log' -exec grep "irssi" /dev/null '{}' + is giving the error 'dusf is a directory'. how should i edit it please?
[08:18] <dean[w]> I just plugged in a second monitor and im having troubles making the correct monitor the primary display
[08:19] <dean[w]> any ideas? there's no option in System > Monitors to select the primary
[08:19] <kisuke> faryshta: i meant software side. are you using asla or pulse audio (or both?)
[08:19] <matthewg42> does anyone know if it's possible to change the directory which flashplayer uses from ~/.macromedia to something else.  Perhaps an environment variable?
[08:20] <faryshta> kisuke how do I know?
[08:20] <kisuke> faryshta: open synaptic and search for them
[08:21] <dennis> hi
[08:22] <cyclist_2> Hello, there! I wish I could say 'I give up on GoogleEarth', but I really like the program and until very recently it was working great; does anyone have an alternative [sort of temporary fix] so that I can have the program running om my Lucid machine again [yes, it did work on this very same machine until recently...]?
[08:22] <celtibero> What happens if you purge ubuntu-desktop package?
[08:23] <compaq> celtibero, I'm guessing, you lose your desktop
[08:23] <faryshta> kisuke, I have pulse-audio and alsa installed.
[08:23] <dennis> need some help with ubuntu 10.10
[08:23] <compaq> faryshta, me too, I think everyone, ie.it is normal I guess
[08:23] <faryshta> kisuke, Ohh I forgot that I upgraded my system before hibernating.
[08:23] <dennis> installed it on my asus 1016p netbook
[08:23] <celtibero> That's why I CAN'T uninstall pulseaudio
[08:24] <kisuke> faryshta: that might do it lol
[08:24] <faryshta> kisuke no I mean I already have it upgraded.
[08:24] <faryshta> It was after the upgrade when the audio failed.
[08:24] <kisuke> faryshta: did you need a restart?
[08:25] <faryshta> I restarted because of the hibernation process.
[08:26] <celtibero> I don't have ubuntu-desktop installed and I'm on X!!!
[08:27] <dennis> how can i increase the screen brightness on my netbook? used windows before and it was way brighter there
[08:27] <kisuke> faryshta: so you thought you hibernated andthen restarted?
[08:27] <faryshta> Yes.
[08:28] <dennis> anyone willing to help the newbie?
[08:29] <kisuke> celtibero: do yo uahve gnome installed?
[08:29] <faryshta> dennis which model is it?
[08:29] <celtibero> kisuke Yes
[08:29] <celtibero> kisuke I do have it installed.
[08:29] <kisuke> faryshta: ok, we just left my league
[08:29] <faryshta> kisuke, what do you mean with that?
[08:29] <kisuke> celtibero: then you have ubuntu desktop installed (or should at anyrate)
[08:30] <coz_> dennis,   well  you can set it to  100%  with  sudo echo 100 > /proc/acpi/video/NVID/LCD/brightness   i would assume changing the "100" to a l ower number should work also  but let me check if there is a gui app for this in netbook
[08:30] <dw-> cyclist_2: for that we/you'd have to figure out the problem :)
[08:30] <kisuke> dennis: you have a battery in your notification area?
[08:32] <celtibero> kisuke No, it's not installed.
[08:33] <kisuke> celtibero: oh, wait you said purge i read that as remove, if yo upurge it, then its nolonger in apts cache
[08:33] <dusf> i'm trying to search all .log files in .irssi/irclogs for the string irssi but the command $HOME -name '*.log' -exec grep "irssi" /dev/null '{}' + is giving the error 'dusf is a directory'. how should i edit it please?
[08:33] <celtibero> kisuke Then...?
[08:34] <kisuke> celtibero: nothing except free up a little bit of space
[08:34] <_MAD_Diplomat> is mAD
[08:34] <celtibero> kisuke How come my boot screen doesn't appear, then?
[08:35] <kisuke> celtibero: did anything else get uninstalled with ubuntu-desktop?
[08:35] <debuggerboy> dusf : can you try     grep -lir "irssi" *.log
[08:35] <celtibero> kisuke Yes, other packages which I don't remember right now, most of them starting with "pulseaudio"
[08:36] <kisuke> celtibero: ther could be your problem, try resinstalling ubuntu-desktop
[08:36] <helpmepls> ummmm hi
[08:37] <celtibero> kisuke If I do, pulseaudio is automatically selected for being installed as well...
[08:37] <blakkheim> celtibero: ubuntu-desktop pulls in all the bloat of a default install
[08:37] <kisuke> celtibero: ok one sec
[08:38] <helpmepls> a little question. Does anyone know how to make gprof (prof) do a mon.out gmon.out file so that it is called 10 times
[08:38] <LOLPIE> does anyone here know c++?
[08:38] <blakkheim> LOLPIE: /j #c++
[08:38] <dusf> debuggerboy: it's given me a list of log files, a long list
[08:38] <LOLPIE> blakkheim, i cant chat in there..
[08:38] <kisuke> WTF ARE WE USING PULSE AUDIO????? IT HAS A TENDENCY TO BREAK STUFF!!!!! sorry had to get that off my chest. ^^;
[08:38] <blakkheim> LOLPIE: it's not on topic here though, so..
[08:38] <dusf> debuggerboy: and i have to be in a specific directory, rather than search several
[08:38] <LOLPIE> ##c++ cannot sned to channel.
[08:38] <LOLPIE> what doe sthat mean
[08:38] <wjdenny> i'm having trouble with a built-in lenovo easycamera, dmesg shows uvcvideo driver was loaded, but all i get is a green screen. i've found similar problems on forums, but none of their solutions worked and the problems didn't quite match.
[08:39] <blakkheim> !register > LOLPIE
[08:39] <kisuke> celtibero: you night just need to deal with it then, sorry
[08:39] <celtibero> This isn't definitely an O.S. for musicians, undoubtely
[08:39] <helpmepls> can someone help me in priv ? :)
[08:39] <rww> LOLPIE: ##c++ blocks people who aren't identified with nickserv from speaking. See the message from ubottu for information on registering.
[08:39] <celtibero> kisuke My night?
[08:39] <blakkheim> kisuke: avoid pulseaudio like the plague
[08:39] <tetorgang> muschis
[08:39] <tetorgang> pussys
[08:39] <kisuke> blakkheim: impossible, ubuntu-desktop _requires_ it
[08:40] <blakkheim> kisuke: then don't use ubuntu-desktop
[08:40] <celtibero> blakkheim By the way, What is ubuntu-desktop?
[08:40] <blakkheim> celtibero: a GIANT metapackage that installs all the bloated trash from a default gnome install of ubuntu
[08:40] <kisuke> blakkheim: you know of anyway to log in with a GUI otherwise? makes log screen dsapear
[08:41] <kisuke> celtibero: i reccomend you switch to linux mint
[08:41] <jpds> !mint | kisuke
[08:41] <helpmepls> can someone help me on priv with prof or gprof thingie ?
[08:41] <flaccid> hehe
[08:41] <kisuke> jpds: nive reading fail
[08:41] <kisuke> nice*
[08:41] <blakkheim> "nive" spelling fail
[08:41] <blakkheim> :P
[08:42] <celtibero> blakkheim I'm logging with a GUI, and ubuntu-desktop is not installed in my Ubuntu...
[08:42] <helpmepls> sigh ;( or jsut tell me where to ask other channel maybe
[08:42] <blakkheim> celtibero: yeah you don't need it
[08:42] <kisuke> BlackBinary: im on a laptop with only my screen for light, and it after local midnight, lets see you spell perfectly :P
[08:43] <oligrapeto> sigh
[08:43] <BlackBinary> kisuke: ?
[08:43] <blakkheim> kisuke: i will, with my light-up keyboard :3
[08:43] <celtibero> blakkheim I don't need it? But... it's the graphical interface, isn't it?
[08:43] <kisuke> blakkheim: was not an option for my asus otherwise i would have it
[08:43] <blakkheim> celtibero: not at all
[08:43] <wizz> how to know my own ip?
[08:43] <blakkheim> wizz: curl whatismyip.org
[08:43] <racecar56> wizz: http://whatismyip.com
[08:43] <racecar56> oh
[08:44] <jpds> kisuke: No, I was just saying that Mint isn't supported here.
[08:44] <celtibero> blakkheim So, I can use Jack without PulseAudio and not run the risk of losing my GUI?
[08:44] <racecar56> i'm trying to resize a NTFS partition but gparted fails with "ERROR: rl_expand: bad LCN: -2"
[08:44] <blakkheim> celtibero: i don't know anything about jack
[08:44] <blakkheim> celtibero: but ubuntu-desktop is not needed for anything, it's not even a real package
[08:45] <celtibero> blakkheim What does it do, then?
[08:45] <blakkheim> celtibero: it's a way to easily pull in (i don't know why someone would ever do this) all of the default programs in a vanilla installation
[08:45] <kisuke> jpds: PM, dont want to get into a public arguement, and drag the whole channel in
[08:45] <rww> !ubuntu-desktop | celtibero
[08:45] <rww> !metapackage
[08:46] <kisuke> it was a reccomendation, not me giving support for it
[08:46] <thinkpad> hello
[08:46] <wjdenny> i'm having trouble with a built-in lenovo easycamera, dmesg shows uvcvideo driver was loaded, but all i get is a green screen. i've found similar problems on forums, but none of their solutions worked and the problems didn't quite match.
[08:46] <racecar56> hi
[08:46] <celtibero> blakkheim I removed it but still have the games, for example. And OpenOffice, which is installed by default.
[08:47] <blakkheim> celtibero: yeah, removing it doesn't  actually remove anything, that's what i am trying to tell you
[08:47] <celtibero> blakkheim Ok, I think I understand now...
[08:48] <TimeRider> Just removes the 'list of packages to install script'
[08:48] <celtibero> Yes, I understand...
[08:48] <TimeRider> '/etc/init.d/gdm stop' that'll sort out your gui woes :)
[08:48] <celtibero> Do you know any way to recover the boot screen? I lost it when I installed LIRC?
[08:51] <knoppies> Is there still a large difference in drivers for nvidea and ati cards? I know a few years ago driver support for ati cards was rather bad.
[08:52] <snipe> anyone know of a simple system monitor for desktop in lucid?
[08:52] <knoppies> snipe, conky
[08:52] <racecar56> or gkrellm
[08:52] <celtibero> I have another question: How do I disable the sounds when pressing buttons?
[08:52] <hyperstream> Hey guys, was there a new default font in 10.10 ?
[08:52] <kisuke> knoppies: that seem to have reversed itself, if mt memory is keeping up with me
[08:52] <knoppies> kisuke, I like the sound of that. I hope your right.
[08:53] <racecar56> knoppies: if so, not as much
[08:53] <snipe> i installed conky but can't find it in apps, is there some command to start it?
yeah,ubuntu font
[08:53] <JoeCoolNetbook> How do I set Nano as the default text based file editor?
[08:53] <digital_838> It's a shame Maverick had to ship with kernel 2.6.35
[08:53] <racecar56> celtibero: System>Preferences>Sound
[08:53] <digital_838> Because that kernel version sux
[08:53] <knoppies> snipe, conky
[08:53] <kisuke> knoppies: dont quote me on that
[08:53] <celtibero> racecar56 It doesn't appear on the drop down menu.
[08:53] <racecar56> celtibero: and uncheck "Enable window and button sounds" oh
[08:53] <hyperstream> sudipta, i dont even need my glasses anymore, its friggen great
[08:53] <knoppies> kisuke, thanks.
[08:54] <racecar56> celtibero: don't know, you're missing some package then?
[08:54] <celtibero> racecar56 PulseAudio :s
sure it is
[08:54] <knoppies> snipe, you might want to edit the config file to your liking, if I am not mistaken the default one is rather horid.
[08:54] <celtibero> I hate PulseAudio
[08:54] <knoppies> thanks racecar56.
[08:54] <racecar56> knoppies: y/w
[08:54] <digital_838> ewww pulseaudio
[08:55] <digital_838> Although I read the lead dev of PulseAudio blames Ubuntu for their packaging of it.
[08:55] <racecar56> celtibero: gnome-media
[08:55] <racecar56> celtibero: that package provides it
[08:55] <snipe> thanks knoppies .. that was more simple than i expected lol
[08:55] <digital_838> How long is a typical wait before we see Kernel 2.6.36 released?
[08:56] <digital_838> Anyone have an educated guess?
[08:56] <celtibero> racecar56 Thanks
[08:56] <knoppies> snipe, My pleasure. You can use google to find some nice conky config file setups.
[08:56] <knoppies> snipe, I could also pastebin mine.
[08:57] <snipe> i'm still pretty new to ubuntu .. how would i get to pastebin to see them?
[08:58] <digital_838> What is pastebin?
[08:58] <digital_838> ubottu pastebin
[08:58] <noob-tux> does anyone here are aware about firefox extention called firesheep?
[08:58] <muppis> Can't get libvirtd listen tls in Maverick. Added --listen argument to /etc/init/libvirt-bin.conf and restarted daemon without any effect.
[08:59] <digital_838> Get what?
[08:59] <king_son> I am a new ubuntu user.... when i installed readline 6.0 tarball my root terminal would auto close & after i restart i cannot login to Ubuntu
[09:00] <kisuke> noob-tux: why?
[09:00] <blakkheim> noob-tux: yes
[09:00] <digital_838> who is sysop?
[09:01] <king_son> can any1 help me?
[09:01] <blakkheim> king_son: be patient
[09:01] <king_son> ok :)
[09:01] <Recon_> Hello everyone
[09:01] <digital_838> Hello Recon_
[09:01] <Xlaits> Hello everyone.
[09:02] <digital_838> Hello Xlaits
[09:02] <digital_838> Good to have you aboard
[09:02] <Xlaits> I was wondering if someone could help me with mud-mecha, ruby, and the corelation of the two.
[09:02] <digital_838> The concierge is offering complimentary cheese to go with all the wine tonight.
[09:03] <kisuke> digital_838: WINE or whine?
[09:03] <digital_838> ; )
[09:03] <Xlaits> kisuke: both
[09:03] <wjdenny> having trouble with uvcvideo/v4l-0/1/2 .. webcam shows only green screen in all programs, any suggestions?
[09:04] <LDC> hello guys. I want to konw if you follow the habit of partitioning a huge HDD (500GB) into smaller partitions or is it OK to hav one huge parittion? I have a 400GB partition on my HDD and after 1 year it's now becoming a pain with frequent disconnections. It's an NTFS, wonder if that's the case. any suggestions?
[09:05] <digital_838> You should be able to have a huge partition just fine
[09:05] <noob-tux> blakkheim: does firesheep works only on winOS? or same as in *nix distros?
[09:05] <digital_838> I dual boot NTFS/EXT4 with a gig split between em.
[09:05] <Xlaits> Does anyone know anything about mud-mecha?
[09:05] <hyperstream> LDC, i personally use: a partition for: /, one for /home and if i want to have MS>Lin Lin>MS i might have a third partition as NTFS
[09:05] <hyperstream> Oh and not to forget swap area :)
[09:06] <LDC> :)
[09:06] <Recon_> Could anyone help me debug this c++ program I've been workin' on
[09:06] <hyperstream> Recon_, try #C++
[09:06] <blakkheim> noob-tux: there are other ways to do the same thing on linux
[09:06] <Recon_> Thank you very much Hyperstream
[09:07] <hyperstream> Recon_, not a problem
[09:07] <digital_838> Do you have any problems with upgrades if you preserve your /home ?   Do you clean it up prior/after?
[09:07] <LDC> what i have is a 500GB HDD with 60GB and 400GB NTFS partitions followed by 250GB HDD with 35GB NTFS for windows XP, 10GB for Linux Ubuntu and the remaining for NTFS partition. my 250GB never gave me problems but the 500gb always has even though it's a one year old replacement hyperstream
[09:07] <Xlaits> I really hate being ignored...
[09:07] <wrongplace> me too
[09:08]  * blakkheim puts you both on ignore
[09:08] <hyperstream> digital_838, i always xfer my home off onto another external drive before hand, and generally start fresh... perhaps re-use the chrome / .xchat2 folders
[09:08] <kisuke> noob-tux: the only firesheep addon im finding is a person theme, are yo tring to install it?
[09:09] <Xlaits> AS I asked, I'm trying to compile MUD-mecha. It forced me to install ruby, and now is telling me that the version of Ruby I installed is smaller. I installed 1.9.1 and it's asking for 1.9. Anyone able to help?
[09:09] <digital_838> hyperstream:  Thanks... that's a good idea.  I think I'll start trying that.  I hate having to rebuild all that afterwards.
[09:09] <noob-tux> blakkheim: so for now there's no stoping this firesheep in *nix distros am i right? but the great thing on having *nix distros is that the attacker spend time on breakin those packets  the decrypted ones right?
[09:09] <hyperstream> LDC, might be a hardware issue, im not sure, ive brought motherboards, where the pc speaker had to be ripped out as it thought there was no graphics card(according to the beep code in manual) it worked fine and booted into an os lol, died 2 months later
[09:09] <JoeCoolNetbook> How do I get out of this thing?
[09:09] <blakkheim> noob-tux: it's easy to circumvent if that's your goal, i thought you were trying to use it
[09:09] <Xlaits> JoeCoolNetbook: Close the window.
[09:09] <racecar56> i'm doing a chkdsk on Windows so i might get this fixed
[09:10] <hyperstream> digital_838, yeah, always tomboy notes of things you wish to keep when you reinstall etc. Then when it comes to the crunch you wont forget any applications to backup/export/store files :P
[09:10] <JoeCoolNetbook> ctrl-X doesn't work, :q doesn't work
[09:10] <noob-tux> blakkheim: nope...i ain't using such things..... :) i just want to know some ways of preventions
[09:10] <hyperstream> JoeCoolNetbook, which client?
[09:10] <Xlaits> I will get annoying if I have to.  It forced me to install ruby, and now is telling me that the version of Ruby I installed is smaller. I installed 1.9.1 and it's asking for 1.9. Anyone able to help?
[09:10] <hyperstream> Xlaits, obviously no one knows anything about your issue
[09:11] <blakkheim> noob-tux: any time you are on an untrusted network you should tunnel your traffic through ssh
[09:11] <JoeCoolNetbook> hyperstream no idea.  In CLI text editor for git
[09:11] <hyperstream> Xlaits, you need to wait, and read the guidelines
[09:11] <Xlaits> hyperstream: I know, but at least SOMEONE could TRY to be helpful.
[09:11] <hyperstream> Xlaits, people dont get paid to assist you :(. If i knew anything in regards to your issue i would have helped :/
[09:11] <kisuke> !patence > Xlaits
[09:11] <Nimrodel> is bitchx available for ubuntu 10.10?
[09:11] <hyperstream> Xlaits, try a few keywords on google while waiting, thats what i do
[09:11] <Gnea> !info bitchx
[09:12] <noob-tux> blakkheim: they're just using things easy....those wannabe's.....i can do it using wireshark but in that i need to convert things so it takes time...well atleast i know what i'm doing rather using such lame firesheep easy to use hehehe
[09:12] <Xlaits> hyperstream: I know, I know. I can't google, because I always get crap.
[09:12] <Recon_> Uhm could someone link me to the c++ channel? I got led right back here lol
[09:12] <blakkheim> noob-tux: yeah, basically
[09:12] <Xlaits> kisuke: Thank you, but I'm not a doctor.
[09:12] <noob-tux> Nimrodel: download bitchX but not advisable cause there's no support on bitchX dues to some flaws
[09:12] <hyperstream> Xlaits, got to mix up the keywords, i would brain storm at a time like this lol, otherwise just sit and wait patently
[09:12] <Gnea> !info irssi
[09:13] <noob-tux> Nimrodel: use irssi instead! or xchat will do
[09:13] <kisuke> Xlaits: i cant spell right now, tring to get the litteral bot to say something *throws ubottu the bird*
[09:13] <Recon_> #c++
[09:13] <horrible> Xlaits: we can't offer support for getting MUD-Mecha running, since it's not one of the softwares supported by ubuntu. i'm referring you to the MUD-Mecha support: http://sourceforge.net/projects/mud-mecha/support
[09:13] <kisuke> Recon_: is your nick registered?
[09:13] <hyperstream> afk
[09:13] <danners> i have a server with apt-cacher-ng, can i configure the server to use also the apt-cache?
[09:13] <Recon_> Nope
[09:13] <horrible> danners: yes.
[09:14] <kisuke> !afk > hyperstream
[09:14] <Recon_> Does it have to be to access that channel?
[09:14] <Nimrodel> noob-tux:  I usually use irssi because I like the terminal but I liked bitchx better... Thanks anyways!
[09:14] <noob-tux> blakkheim: ehehe...actually i'm not yet that good on doin some tunneling stuffs....but i'm reading stuffs regarding to ssh tunneling...
[09:14] <nyo> Hi, i need to reinstall grub with root in (hd0,7) instead on (hd0,0), but I'm unable to boot on ubuntu, either the livecd seems to not help me at all... hints?
[09:14] <danners> horrible: thanks
[09:14] <horrible> !away > Putr
[09:14] <hyperstream> kisuke, have you even read that?
[09:14] <hyperstream> !afk > kisuke
[09:14] <RudyValencia> When I try to install postgresql it tells me the packages can't be verified and asks if I want to install without verification, what's happening here?
[09:14] <Xlaits> horrible: Apparently, not a SINGLE program I've tried is compatable with ubuntu! KYLIX isn't, AweMUD isn't... FFFF....
[09:14] <hyperstream> kisuke, please be sure you know what you are sending to users in private.
[09:14] <noob-tux> Nimrodel: u can use bitchX but risky tho....so bet ur life on it! :)
[09:15] <horrible> Xlaits: they may or may not be compatible, but we can't provide support for it
[09:15] <Xlaits> horrible: besides, I need help COMPILING it, not getting it running.
[09:15] <Recon_> Anyone know why I can't talk in the c++ channel?
[09:15] <kisuke> hyperstream: yes, and ive had it used on me before, the same basic rule applys
[09:15] <Xlaits> horrible: as in './configue'
[09:15] <horrible> Xlaits: oh, that's even harder for us to help you with
[09:15] <Nimrodel> noob-tux: I see... Thanks :)
[09:15] <hyperstream> kisuke, i dont have a message, nor a nick change.
[09:15] <horrible> Xlaits: but as a general tip i recommend you install the -dev versions of the libraries needed by ./configure
[09:16] <Xlaits> horrible: alright, let me try that.
[09:16] <hyperstream> kisuke, <kisuke> wants you to know: You should avoid noisy away messages and -nicks in a busy channel like #ubuntu <-- didnt apply to me, im simply letting the users know that ive left and wont respond as im afk. This is being polite in a minimal manner.
[09:16] <hyperstream> afk guys.
[09:17] <Recon_> Does anyone know why I can't chat in the C++ room?
[09:17] <kisuke> Xlaits: if yo uwant compatibility use debian, ubuntu is a rebuild of debian, with a focus on kiss
[09:17] <blakkheim> !register | Recon_
[09:17] <kisuke> hyperstream: and thats not a message?
[09:17] <Xlaits> kisuke: Debian?
[09:17] <Recon_> OOoooh
[09:17] <Xlaits> horrible: that did nothing to help me. At least I tried, right?
[09:18] <tado> for some reason thunderbird opens links in chromium and not in firefox, which is the default browser. i can't find any setting to change that... ideas?
[09:18] <kisuke> !debian > Xlaits
[09:18] <neitengeuker> im a geitenneuker
[09:18] <digital_838> Chrome let's you change that inside of the settings.
[09:18] <horrible> Xlaits: getting a software to compile is a hairy business and the only one that can really help you is the developer in many cases. unless they provided you with detailed instructions
[09:18] <cola4231> hi all
[09:18] <racecar56> hi
[09:19] <cola4231> how to uninstall wine
[09:19] <digital_838> cola4231- what version of Ubuntu?
[09:19] <Xlaits> horrible: again, I'm just trying to use the ./configure to get it installed. T_T Why, Ubuntu... why are you such a pain?
[09:19] <YeTr2> Xlaits: I'm bored. I'll gelp you with compiling stuffs.
[09:20] <kisuke> cola4231: run "sudo apt-get remove wine" in a terminal
[09:20] <Xlaits> YeTr2: You will!? Thanks!
[09:20] <uLinux> cola4231: or go to Applications > Software Center, search for Wine and uninstall
[09:20] <YeTr2> Xlaits: aptitude install build-essential
[09:20]  * kisuke thinks hes alittle to used to BASHing at problems
[09:21] <emmanuel> ola ubunteros
[09:21] <horrible> Xlaits: the ./configure is provided by MUD-Mecha, not Ubuntu. i'm surprised you choose to blame ubuntu when MUD-Mecha isn't working
[09:21] <uLinux> emmanuel: hello
[09:21] <Xlaits> YeTr2: Already taken care of... and... aptitude?
[09:21] <emmanuel> alguien de aki abla español
[09:21] <noob-tux> is there any mp3 player that plays as background? hehe
[09:21] <YeTr2> Xlaits: better than apt-get. handles dependencies
[09:21] <uLinux> !es | emmanuel
[09:21] <Xlaits> horrible: I blame Ubuntu for being a hassle to work with. It's been nothing but "Install this to install that"
[09:21] <cola4231> thanks
[09:21] <YeTr2> Xlaits: in that case, pastebin some ./configure for me.
[09:21] <kisuke> uLinux: beet me to it :P
[09:22] <n3rV3> noob-tux look up mp3blaster
[09:22] <Xlaits> YeTr2: Alright. Pastebin link, if you will?
[09:22] <uLinux> kisuke: beet?
[09:22] <YeTr2> pastebin.com?
[09:22] <kisuke> uLinux: beat* sorry
[09:23] <Xlaits> YeTr2: Nevermind, found it. Here: http://paste.ubuntu.com/520650/
[09:23] <noob-tux> YeTr2: paste.ubuntu.com
[09:23] <emmanuel> oye ubottu??
[09:23] <Recon_> Uhm is there a specific way to log in?
[09:23] <cola4231> i uninsatl wine but aplcation still have wine
[09:24] <Xlaits> !aptitude
[09:24] <uLinux> cola4231: try to launch wine.. i bet the shortcut wasnt removed.
[09:24] <kisuke> cola4231: how did you install wine?
[09:24] <JVB> how i can remove myfile.fc from /home/user/betand.fc to /var/lib/data    ??
[09:24] <uLinux> JVB: you mean move
[09:24] <Recon_> #c++
[09:24] <obs3rv3r> sudo mv src dst
[09:24] <JVB> yes
[09:24] <emmanuel> a todos los ubunteros ke ablen español entren a /join #ubuntu-es por que tengo una mega bulnerabilidad ke acabo de entrar bueno no se si mega pero yo creo ke es bulnerabilidad?
[09:25] <uLinux> JVB: mv /home/user/betand.fc /var/lib/data
[09:25] <kisuke> Recon_: try "/join #c++"
[09:25] <cola4231> yes sortcut cant clear
[09:25] <JVB> thanks !
[09:25] <n2diy> gnome power manager is trying to shut down my computer, the user log indicates the power button is being pressed, but nothing is near the button? Ideas?
[09:25] <emmanuel> ke acabo de encontrar en ubuntu yo creo ke la trae desde ase mucho?
[09:25] <Xlaits> YeTr2: I used the aptitude build-dep. Alredy have everything.
[09:26] <kisuke> emmanuel: no habla espanol, lo scento
[09:26] <YeTr2> Xlaits: "ls -l `which ruby`"
[09:26] <emmanuel> dont worry kisuke?
[09:26] <uLinux> cola4231: you can disable or remove the shortcut from the menu, go to System > Preferences > main menu
[09:26] <Xlaits> YeTr2: Ummm....
[09:27] <calamity> So libmtp seems like it's not able to detect media devices connected to the computer. theey're definitely mounted and I can see them in lsusb but yeah
[09:27] <uLinux> cola4231: then you select uncheck the box for Wine ;)
[09:27] <Xlaits> YeTr2: Yeah, not pulling anythign up.
[09:27] <uLinux> *uncheck
[09:27] <kisuke> calamity: are yo umissing a package that libmtp needs to probe said devices?
[09:28] <YeTr2> Xlaits: one second
[09:28] <calamity> kisuke, I don't know. I think I have everything
[09:28] <calamity> How would I check?
[09:28] <cola4231> ok thanks
[09:28] <digital_838> I'm giving up on the 2.6.35 kernel.
[09:28] <Xlaits> YeTr2: Sure, I'll wait. -goes to get poptarts while waiting-
[09:28] <rportnoy> help
[09:28] <digital_838> It is laggy and sluggish.
[09:28] <rportnoy> anyone can help
[09:29] <kisuke> calamity: check synaptic, and search for it there, or check the documentation for libmtp, to see if it needs anything extra done
[09:29] <LOLPIE> !register
[09:29] <slook> couple questions, has anyone else experience slowness with the installation of 10.10?
[09:29] <rportnoy> i was installed backtrack 4 r1 but the network
[09:29] <rportnoy> very slow
[09:30] <rportnoy> and too many RX packet errors
[09:30] <Xlaits> !pm
[09:30] <lfa33> Hi team, I am using kickstart/preseed installation where it ftp gets the preseed but because of the ftp part the "preseed/include string x.file" does not work. Is it possible to chanload the startup phase to ftp get more preseed files or include ftp files?
[09:30] <blakkheim> rportnoy: we don't do backtrack support here
[09:30] <rportnoy> but it's based on ubuntu?
[09:30] <blakkheim> !backtrack > rportnoy
[09:30] <YeTr2> Xlaits: ls -l /usr/bin/ruby
[09:30] <emmanuel> Escribe texto o la dirección de un sitio web o traduce un documento.
[09:30] <emmanuel> Cancelar
[09:30] <emmanuel> Escuchar
[09:30] <emmanuel> traducción del español al inglés
[09:30] <emmanuel> sorry everyone, I just found a vulnerability in ubuntu? someone knowledgeable to give me the reason and thus be 2?
[09:30] <FloodBot1> emmanuel: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[09:31] <Xlaits> YeTr2: WTF? 1.8!?
[09:31] <emmanuel> ups sorry
[09:31] <YeTr2> Xlaits: :P
[09:31] <rportnoy> ok, thanks all
[09:31] <LOLPIE> how do i check if im registered
[09:31] <Xlaits> YeTr2: I KNOW I installed 1.9.1
[09:31] <LOLPIE> im still unable to chat in some channels
[09:31] <YeTr2> Xlaits: 1.9.1 doesn't set up the symlink
[09:31] <rportnoy> blakkheim what is !backtrack > rportnoy?
[09:31] <Xlaits> YeTr2: D'oH!
[09:31] <YeTr2> Xlaits: actually, it's bad-form all around, /etc/alternatives should be handling it.
[09:31] <blakkheim> rportnoy: it sends you a PM, read it
[09:32] <emmanuel> tengo un problema en virtual box
[09:32] <emmanuel> lo instale pero no tengo red?
[09:32] <emmanuel> ake se debera?
[09:32] <blakkheim> emmanuel: /join #ubuntu-es
[09:32] <Xlaits> YeTr2: And how do I fix ths?
[09:32] <rportnoy> ok thanks blakkheim
[09:32] <YeTr2> Xlaits: you should be able to specifiy the ruby executable in the configure script, or you can change the symlink.
[09:33] <YeTr2> you could just try removing the old version if you don't intend to use it.
[09:33] <Xlaits> YeTr2: Which is easier?
[09:33] <YeTr2> Xlaits: pastebin `./configure --help`
[09:33] <dazappa> so. I'm running ubuntu 10.10 netbook edition off a usb stick, and I went to "try ubuntu" to which it said I didn't have a driver necessary to run unity
[09:34] <muppis> Can't get libvirtd listen tcp/tls in Maverick. Added --listen argument to /etc/init/libvirt-bin.conf and restarted daemon without any effect. Also initctl --reload-configuration and killing process has no effect. Do I really need reboot whole machine?
[09:34] <dazappa> (running an nvidia 310-m) -- if I install it to disk is there a way to find a possible driver?
[09:34] <bbgoll> hi all
[09:34] <dazappa> I'd much rather run unity over the standard gnome
[09:35] <bbgoll> what is canonical IS
[09:35] <YeTr2> dazappa: I think it's required to set up certs or it won't work
[09:35] <lfa33> muppis: i think I read somewhere that it is a bug
[09:35] <hasen> hi guys
[09:35] <kisuke> dazappa: try using an eariler version of ubuntu
[09:35] <Xlaits> YeTr2: http://paste.ubuntu.com/520656/
[09:35] <kisuke> hey hasen
[09:35] <muppis> lfa33, great...
[09:35] <hasen> is here some help me how to make my own IRC channel and register it?
[09:35] <lfa33> muppis: but u need to confirm it
[09:35] <lfa33> I have a vage memory of it
[09:36] <kisuke> hasen: try in #freenode
[09:36] <Xlaits> !guidelines > hasen
[09:36] <bbgoll> what is RT ticket with canonical IS?
[09:36] <dazappa> kisuke: it's not that it doesn't work (I'm currently running it), it's that it won't run unity which is the interface I'd like
[09:37] <kisuke> dazappa: give me a second, i dont think i have ever heard of unity
[09:37] <lfa33> muppis: but it is proberly just to patch the init.d script for it
[09:38] <muppis> lfa33, that not used anymore. Converted to Upstart
[09:38] <YeTr2> Xlaits: http://groups.google.com/group/rails-oceania/browse_thread/thread/8a2b256d117db49f
[09:38] <lfa33> aah
[09:38] <Xlaits> YeTr2: And this is?
[09:39] <YeTr2> Xlaits: short example for using /etc/alternatives for managing ruby
[09:39] <racecar56> i solved my problem
[09:39] <hasen> guys, i got confused how to make IRC channel and register it
[09:39] <YeTr2> Xlaits: or you can use rvm
[09:39] <racecar56> i did chkdsk, defragged and chkdsk again or something like that
[09:40] <kisuke> ok WTF?
[09:40] <Xlaits> YeTr2: Hopefully, it'll fix everything. I'm a complete newbie at this. T_T
[09:40] <kisuke> !unity > kisuke
[09:40] <kisuke> hasen: ask in #freenode, this is the ubuntu support channel
[09:41] <YeTr2> Xlaits: rvm is a ruby gem, it can help manage your ruby installations and make fun stuff happen
[09:41] <hasen> kisuke: how can i?
[09:41] <YeTr2> Xlaits: looks easier than /etc/alternatives
[09:41] <hasen> #freenode
[09:41] <kisuke> hasen: type "/join #freenode" with out the quotes
[09:41] <Xlaits> YeTr2: X3 Good! How exactly do I do that?
[09:42] <YeTr2> http://www.adras.com/Setting-to-Ruby-1-9-in-Ubuntu.t38410-48.html about mid-way down the page
[09:43] <cola4231> i install some software with wine , but cant uninsall , new i uncheck the wine and install it again but aplication dont show wine
[09:44] <kisuke> cola4231: open synaptic and search for wine, make sure all packages are uninstalled
[09:44] <airtonix> cola4231, ... any software you install with wine (aka windows software) is most likely going to exist in the hidden directory ".wine" under your home folder
[09:45] <Xlaits> YeTr2: Hmm?
[09:45] <Xlaits> !rvm
[09:46] <racecar56> i'm done here, bye all
[09:47] <kisuke> dazappa: you still there?
[09:47] <dazappa> kisuke: yes
[09:47] <cola4231> i install again wine but no show in application
[09:47] <Xlaits> YeTr2: I used that link, and then ran the ./configure. This is the output error: http://paste.ubuntu.com/520659/
[09:48] <adxp`> is it possible to have a single server masquerade as having an entire class C space of IPs?
[09:49] <airtonix> adxp`, maybe, if you create enough virtual ethernet interfaces
[09:49] <kisuke> dazappa: ok as far as i can tell unity is just a theme for gnome, you were getting an error when tring ot run a live USB right?
[09:49] <adxp`> airtonix: hm, yeah, I was hoping for a way around that
[09:49] <dazappa> kisuke: indeed I was
[09:49] <adxp`> airtonix: it seems not-unreasonable to want to avoid having 256 virtul interfaces, but still have a many-to-one mapping
[09:50] <adxp`> (airtonix: I know this is more a pure-linux rather than an ubuntu thing)
[09:50] <airtonix> adxp`, or you could use some kind of arp spam
[09:50] <kisuke> dazappa: can you give me a racap? i dont wanna scroll up several dozen lines of text :(
[09:51] <dazappa> kisuke: live 10.10 netbook edition, when it started it complained about not having a driver so it defaulted to standard gnome
[09:51] <F_Joey> Does anyone know of an alternative programme to readline 6.1?
[09:51] <dazappa> kisuke: I guess propriatary drivers from nvidia weren't on the usb disk, so all I can really do is hope if I install to the hdd then install drivers, unity will be content with the driver
[09:51] <kisuke> dazappa: ok, that makes no sence what so ever, if it did not have a driver, why did it boot at all? or into vesa mode?
[09:52] <kisuke> dazappa: try forceing vesa mode
[09:52] <EvaLuaTe> hello world
[09:52] <dazappa> kisuke: it has a driver, gnome's started happily atm. I think the driver would the be same prop. driver for, ex. compiz effects
[09:52] <kisuke> anyone got the unity specs on hand?
[09:52] <jpds> kisuke: unity.ubuntu.com ?
[09:52] <dazappa> kisuke: rather, the one it wants
[09:53] <kisuke> dazappa: if it can start gnome, i see no reason why it cannot start another desktop enviorment, can you give me the exact error text?
[09:53] <Xlaits> YeTr2: Hello?
[09:53] <YeTr2> Xlaits: I'm thinking
[09:54] <Xlaits> YeTr2: Just making sure you're still with me, here.
[09:54] <dazappa> kisuke: "No required driver detected for unity"
[09:54] <kisuke> jpds: thanks, unfourtunatly that does not show up on the first page of google
[09:54] <cola4231> how to show wine in application
[09:55] <kisuke> dazappa: owwww, thats not english,thats engrish, or an not error error
[09:55] <kisuke> cola4231: i think we have hit the end of what we can do for ya, im gonna point you over to the wine channel
[09:55] <kisuke> !wine > cola4231
[09:56] <nebula> macro recorder (replay ) best pogram ????
[09:56] <YeTr2> Xlaits: where can i get a copy of this app?
[09:56] <dazappa> ah well, that was the error. blame the devs for engrish. time to test...
[09:56] <Xlaits> YeTr2: search MUD server on SourceForge. I'll find a direct link if you want.
[09:56] <YeTr2> got it
[09:57] <Xlaits> YeTr2: You got it?
[09:57] <cola4231> befor a guy call me to uncheck the wine in system main
[09:57] <Xlaits> YeTr2: Just in case: http://sourceforge.net/projects/mud-mecha/
[09:57] <kisuke> why does canonical insist on using shades of red?
[09:57] <cola4231> now cant find it out
[09:58] <nebula> macro recorder (replay ) best pogram ????
[09:58] <kisuke> cola4231: look at ubottu's private mesage, it will tell you a better place to ask
[09:58] <uLinux> kisuke: because they have no taste? :p
[09:59] <kisuke> uLinux: either that or they want people ot have eyestrain
[09:59] <noob-tux> what's the next step for ubuntu distro now that cannonical leaving gnome? :(
[10:00] <nbubuntu> hi anyone know where I can find emesene plugin ? I went to the website but I can't find the plugin download section
[10:00] <F_Joey> :O cannonical is leaving gnome!!
[10:00] <hot_wheelz> hi anyone know  if http://www.sierrawireless.com/productsandservices/AirCard/USBModems/aircard_312u.aspx works OTB in 10.10
[10:00] <jpds> F_Joey: No.
[10:00] <uLinux> what speculation is that
[10:00] <F_Joey> thank god :)
[10:01] <EvaLuaTe> sometimes after I lock the screen and the try to unlock it by typing my password+[Enter] the window says "checking..." and stays like that and won't do anything, the only solution after that is to reset X. Any idea how I could identify the problem and/or how to fix it?
[10:01] <YeTr2> .
[10:01] <kandel> !it
[10:01] <calamity> kisuke, I have checked, and I have all the libmtp packages
[10:01] <kisuke> please excuse me while i go gouge my eyes out witha rusty fork
[10:01] <Xlaits> YeTr2: Got it?
[10:01] <cola4231> cant find you
[10:02] <cola4231> kisuke: cant find you in ubottu
[10:02] <n2diy> gnome power manager is trying to shut down my computer, the user log indicates the power button is being pressed, but nothing is near the button? Ideas?
[10:02] <kisuke> cola4231: um, say again please?
[10:03] <kandel> hello. i recived this error. http://pastebin.com/FMVdU8ND how can i resolve? thanks
[10:04] <n2diy> Is there any reason to run GPM on a desktop?
[10:04] <kisuke> kandel: yo ucomputer is set to italian?
[10:04] <kandel> yes
[10:04] <zealiod_> can anyone help me NAT eth1.1 and eth1.2 through to eth1. the vlans are on different subnets and I need to provide DHCP for them on the same range, so though I could masquarade them?
[10:04] <cola4231> say what
[10:04] <kandel> error in elaboraate pips...
[10:04] <YeTr2> Xlaits: working on it.
[10:04] <zealiod_> perhaps with iptables?
[10:04] <nbubuntu> hi anyone know where I can find emesene plugin ? I went to the website but I can't find the plugin download section
[10:05] <Xlaits> YeTr2: Thanks. Can you PM me, so I can be free of the clutter?
[10:06]  * linkThis sends Cordial Greetings
[10:06] <uLinux> How can I remove eth0 and eth1?
[10:07] <kisuke> nbubuntu: try googling  emesene download ubuntu
[10:07] <EvaLuaTe> anyone ^ ?
[10:07] <YeTr2> .
[10:08] <kisuke> uLinux: why would you want to those are your ethernet ports
[10:08] <uLinux> !anyone | EvaLuaTe
[10:08] <uLinux> kisuke: on virtual machine ;)
[10:08] <EvaLuaTe> uLinux, I asked my question earlier...
[10:09] <kisuke> uLinux: what program?
[10:09] <uLinux> kisuke: i was using bridged eth0.. now im using NAT eth1 but i would like to remove the old entry for eth0
[10:09] <uLinux> so i can use nat on eth0
[10:09] <noob-tux> what's the next step for ubuntu distro now that cannonical leaving gnome? :(
[10:09] <jpds> noob-tux: They're not.
[10:09] <kisuke> uLinux: VMware or virtualbox?
[10:10] <uLinux> kisuke: virtualbox
[10:10] <kisuke> uLinux: did you swithch the first ethernet adapter to nat, or did you disable it?
[10:11] <uLinux> kisuke: i disabled it i guess
[10:11] <uLinux> kisuke: or switched.. i changed bridged to nat
[10:11] <uLinux> kisuke: and then ubuntu added eth1 for nat
[10:11] <noob-tux> jpds: not? i'll give u a link on it :)
[10:11] <linkThis> Can I upgrade 64-bit 8.10 to 64-bit 9.04 using the 64-bit 9.04 disc?
[10:11] <kisuke> uLinux: that is strange, not sure wht to say
[10:12] <EvaLuaTe> ok, I'll try to rephrase my question then. If I have problems with my login screen (it hangs saying "checking..." after I type my password+[Enter]), what log files should I be looking in for more info on the problem?
[10:12] <uLinux> ill figure out :p
[10:12] <noob-tux> jpds: http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9192878/Canonical_Ubuntu_splits_from_GNOME_over_design_issues?taxonomyId=122
[10:12] <kisuke> EvaLuaTe: are yo usure the password is right?
[10:13] <hyperstream> EvaLuaTe, is that after a few attempts(it starts sitting at checking password)
[10:13] <EvaLuaTe> kisuke, even if it wouldn't be, shouldn't it just say "incorrect password" and let me type it in again? I mean, it jsut hangs doing nothing, the only solution after that is for me to kill x with ctrl+alt+bksp
[10:13] <jpds> noob-tux: That's just the skin, it will still have all the GNOME applications installed.
[10:13] <St018> hi guys
[10:13] <EvaLuaTe> hyperstream, no, it's at the first attempt (not every time though, I'd say about 50% of the times I lock my screen and then try to unlock it)
[10:13] <hyperstream> EvaLuaTe, anything in /var/log/auth.log ?
[10:14] <kisuke> EvaLuaTe: i have had it take 30 seconds when i ntered an incorrect password to tell me that it was incorrect
[10:14] <St018> how can i add an application to gnome-do and run application
[10:14] <kisuke> EvaLuaTe: you should be able to look at the end of dmesg and se what is happening
[10:14] <lollo> hi all
[10:14] <St018> loolo
[10:14] <St018> lollo
[10:14] <jpds> noob-tux: "Other elements of GNOME besides the shell will continue to be used", even says it in the article itself.
[10:14] <lollo> yes
[10:15] <St018> do u know how can i add application to gnome do
[10:15] <St018> and run application
[10:15] <lollo> tnx St018
[10:15] <St018> thx for what?
[10:16] <St018> is anybody there?
[10:16] <canadacow> no
[10:16] <linkThis> si
[10:16] <EvaLuaTe> hyperstream, http://pastebin.com/yU3CY5Nk , I guess that around 11:54 was the last time I had that problem, so that error might be relevant (although I have no idea what it means...)
[10:16] <linkThis> Can I upgrade 64-bit 8.10 to 64-bit 9.04 using the 64-bit 9.04 disc?
[10:17] <jpds> St018: GNOME Do adds applications to its database itself.
[10:17] <Xlaits> YeTr2: Still with me, here?
[10:17] <jpds> linkThis: Yes, you'll need the alternative one though.
[10:17] <Jordan_U> linkThis: Only if it's the alternate install CD.
[10:17] <Jordan_U> !upgrade | linkThis
[10:17] <EvaLuaTe> kisuke, like I said, I have this happen every now and then, and believe me, even though my laptop is pretty fast and should check that password in a second, I even waited more than a minute the first couple of times I have had this happen, and there was still nothing, I guess this is a bug and has nothing to do with how long it takes to check the password
[10:17] <jpds> !msg | St018
[10:18] <linkThis> Jordan_U: Okay, I'll download the alternate at Uni :P
[10:18] <St018> not an application
[10:18] <St018> eclipse on gnome-do
[10:18] <Jordan_U> linkThis: Trying to take advantage of your universities faster connection?
[10:18] <kisuke> EvaLuaTe: what sis your up time when this happens?
[10:19] <jpds> Jordan_U: Oh, yes, that's what it's there for.
[10:19] <St018> executable version not installed
[10:19] <hyperstream> EvaLuaTe, im just having a google around for yah bud
[10:19] <EvaLuaTe> kisuke, depends, right now it's around 4H for example...
[10:20] <Jordan_U> lidaobing: You might want to get the install DVD, which contains all of the main repository. Note that you don't need to actually burn it to a CD/DVD to upgrade with it or use it as a repository.
[10:20] <EvaLuaTe> hyperstream, thank you :) I also tried searching for that error in auth.log and found this site http://linuxindetails.wordpress.com/2009/12/30/gnome-keyring-daemon-unsupported-key-algorithm-in-certificate-1-2-840-10045-2-1/
[10:20] <kisuke> EvaLuaTe: its late for me, im out, i wish you the best of luck, sorry i cant help ya
[10:20] <uLinux> kisuke: just found the solution "sudo nano /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules" and then disable or remove eth0 and rename eth1 to eth0 ;)
[10:21] <YeTr2> Xlaits: sorry, It's not looking good.
[10:21] <EvaLuaTe> hyperstream, if that login problem is related to that error message, that might be a solution...
[10:21] <hyperstream> EvaLuaTe, about the best i can get too
[10:21] <Xlaits> YeTr2: Damn...
[10:22] <hyperstream> Xlaits, what is your issue again bud, which software?
[10:22] <Xlaits> YeTr2: ruby
[10:22] <Xlaits> YeTr2: Well, originally, ruby....
[10:22] <Scarra3> Sup everyone
[10:22] <Scarra3> So I am back again to get some help.
[10:22] <Xlaits> YeTr2: Well, NOW it can't find the ruby libraries...
[10:23] <Scarra3> I still can not get the alps touchpad on laptop to work with ubuntu 10.10
[10:23] <YeTr2> Xlaits: yeah, I can see that plain as day :)
[10:23] <EvaLuaTe> hyperstream, ok then, I installed that libpam-unix2 package and I'm curios what happens. I'll also try to check the logs again after getting that error to see if I can find anything else of use. Thank you very much for your help for now :)
[10:23] <Xlaits> YeTr2: T_T Thank you. I know that I'm capitain obvious.
[10:24] <Scarra3> Anyone have any ideas or suggestions
[10:24]  * dddw werken
[10:25] <hyperstream> EvaLuaTe, not a problem lol, you found the result :)
[10:25]  * YeTr2 hisses
[10:25] <YeTr2> they turned the lights back on at work >.<
[10:25] <St018> hi
[10:25] <St018> i cant use alt +tab
[10:25] <St018> how can i fix it
[10:26] <St018> and super +tab doesnt work neither
[10:28] <Scarra3> Anyone know how to get an alps touchpad to work in ubuntu 10.10
[10:29] <St018> ?
[10:29] <St018> can some1 answer me
[10:29] <hyperstream> Scarra3, did/does it work in 9.10 ?
[10:29] <blakkheim> !enter | St018
[10:29] <Xlaits> YeTr2: So... grim futures for my mud-mecha?
[10:29] <hyperstream> St018, if no one knows the answer, how can they answer you?
[10:29] <Scarra3> hyperstream: Idk its a brand new laptop
[10:29] <YeTr2> I dunno
[10:29] <YeTr2> I'm trying something silly.
[10:29] <St018> !
[10:29] <hyperstream> Scarra3, what is this idk ?
[10:30] <Scarra3> i don't know
[10:30] <hyperstream> YeTr2, is that a MUD client or a game server?
[10:30] <hyperstream> Scarra3, ahh, thanks for that
[10:30] <Scarra3> Np
[10:30] <hyperstream> Scarra3, laptop brand and model ?
[10:30] <St018> ad_
[10:30] <St018> |ad_
[10:30] <Scarra3> Anyways my laptop is a brand new Sony Vaio E Series VPCEE32FX
[10:31] <hyperstream> Scarra3, what is the touch pad referred as? (lspci i think)
[10:31] <Syria> Which one do you guys think its better, Avant or docky?
[10:31] <YeTr2> aptitude install *ruby* -y
[10:31] <YeTr2> wheeeeeeeeeee
[10:31] <hyperstream> YeTr2, ?
[10:32] <YeTr2> I'm making sure it's all there
[10:32] <Scarra3> hyperstream: Btw im trying to use Ubuntu 10.10 x64 and yes my processor is a x64 processor
[10:33] <hyperstream> Scarra3, it seems it may work in 10.04 - http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1449001&page=2
[10:34] <Scarra3> hyperstream: Then why wouldn't it work on 10.10 if the driver was already in the kernel
[10:35] <hyperstream> Scarra3, not sure, with this laptop, 9.10 would work, but had issues with 10.04
[10:35] <Scarra3> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1449001&page=9 read the last post
[10:37] <Rodemire> Hallo everyone, quick question: I have Twinview working at home on Maverick. Is it possible to now have two separate audio feeds from my PC such that one person can be listening to another app like tvtime while I am listening to Rhythmbox? What would I need to do it?
[10:37] <hyperstream> Rodemire, i believe you would need two sound cards, and set the applications to use the opposite cards.
[10:38] <Xlaits> YeTr2: News update?
[10:38] <Scarra3> Anyone else have an idea?
[10:38] <al_nz2> whats the command to make a connection to my ddwrt router which has vpn enabled with openvpn on my laptop? i cant make head nor tail of the man page
[10:39] <modar> hello every one
[10:39] <YeTr2> Xlaits: I'm hungry
[10:39] <Rodemire> @hyperstream: so it can't be done with one soundcard? Like using the line out for one feed and the headphone jack for another feed?
[10:39] <ilor> hi, I'm looking for a screensaver that shows cpu and memory usage. Does anyone know something like it?
[10:40] <modar> how can i throw terminal see all neighbour computers in local network?
[10:40] <hyperstream> Rodemire, not that ive heard of
[10:40] <Xlaits> YeTr2: Same. Waiting on my toaster scrambles top be done. >.< And anything new on mud-mecha?
[10:40] <ManikDepresif> hi
[10:40] <hyperstream> modar, huh?
[10:40] <ManikDepresif> I have a question regarding to HP ProLiant Microserver and ubuntu installation. anyone around might help?
[10:40] <nigelb> !anyone | ManikDepresif
[10:40] <airtonix> Rodemire, video card != audio card
[10:40] <hyperstream> ManikDepresif, ask the question.
[10:41] <ManikDepresif> nice :) I am interested to buying a HP ProLiant Microserver to install ubuntu server and use it as NAS
[10:41] <ManikDepresif> it is not certified for any other os than microsoft server family and redhat enterprise
[10:42] <ManikDepresif> and hp doesnt know whether it is possible to install or not :)
[10:42] <airtonix> !enter
[10:42] <ManikDepresif> sorry about that, will try
[10:44] <hyperstream> ManikDepresif, http://www.dancewithshadows.com/tech/hp-targets-smbs-with-proliant-microserver/
[10:44] <hyperstream> The server is also compatible with (but not certified for) Ubuntu and Windows XP, Vista and 7.
[10:45] <john38> whats the best music program for Ubuntu?
[10:45] <ManikDepresif> so this means, I can install ubuntu. sorry for bugging, I just want to be sure before making the decision :(
[10:45] <hyperstream> ManikDepresif, according to that site yes.
[10:45] <hyperstream> !best > john38
[10:46] <ManikDepresif> ok :) thanks a lot for your help
[10:46] <hyperstream> Not a problem man, hope it all works out :)
[10:46] <modar>  how can i  list all neighbour computers in local network by terminal?
[10:46] <ManikDepresif> thanks :) and wish you a pleasant day :)
[10:46] <ManikDepresif> !bye
[10:46] <Xlaits> YeTr2: >.<
[10:46] <tmbg> any practical differences to installing kde on ubuntu versus running kubuntu?
[10:46] <jpds> !info nmap | modar
[10:46] <ghaleb> hello, I have ubuntu 8.10 installed on a pc and I reinsrted the hard drive into another pc, now the system is not workin and initramfs comes in, any body help me what to do to launch the kernel ?
[10:47] <YeTr2> Xlaits: yeah, aside from grabbing ruby 1.9 from source, compiling it, and installing it to /opt or something, I'm out of ideas.
[10:47] <modar> thank's
[10:47] <Xlaits> YeTr2: Damn.  DAMN! Crap, now I'm stuck with F'k'n RPMUD...
[10:48] <hyperstream> ghaleb, Ubuntu 8.10 (Intrepid Ibex), released on 30 October 2008,[60][61] was Canonical's ninth release of Ubuntu. Support ended on 30 April 2010
[10:49] <ghaleb> hyperstream: I know, I don't know what to do, I can't reinstall the system all over again
[10:50] <YeTr2> Xlaits: or, you could try ruby from one of the PPA's
[10:50] <Xlaits> YeTr2: PPA?
[10:50] <hyperstream> ghaleb, i would stick it into another machine as a slave, recover all the data required, and use a newer release of ubuntu
[10:51] <ghaleb> hyperstream: the /home and all data is on another disk
[10:51] <ghaleb> hyperstream: it's nightmare to reinstall the whole system again
[10:51] <wisevoyager> Hi! Does anyone know the easiest way to upgrade ubuntu 10.04 to 10.10? tq
[10:51] <ghaleb> hyperstream: it works as a server :(
[10:51] <Xlaits> wisevoyager: Get a 10.10 distro.
[10:52] <hyperstream> ghaleb, im sorry mate, im not sure never used 8.10.
[10:52] <hyperstream> back in 20
[10:52] <wisevoyager> Xlaits, how can I do that?
[10:52] <Cmdr_W_T_Riker> ghaleb: the kernel is probably running, but the root filesystem might not be mounted. Do the start up messages tell you anything why it can't properly boot? be sure to take away the 'quiet' option in boot parameters
[10:52] <Cmdr_W_T_Riker> also you don't want 'splash'
[10:52] <muppis> How I prevent respawn from upstart?
[10:52] <Xlaits> wisevoyager: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu
[10:53] <wisevoyager> Xlaits, thx :D
[10:53] <Xlaits> wisevoyager: A word of warning, though...
[10:53] <ghaleb> Cmdr_W_T_Riker: thanks ,it tells me "Kernel alive"
[10:53] <muppis> Program is already running and even I comment respawn out, it still respawns.
[10:53] <Xlaits> wisevoyager: It WILL erase everything on your HDD...
[10:54] <Cmdr_W_T_Riker> wisevoyager: easiest is to use the upgrade option from inside your running 10.04. Takes long, though. if you have teh bandwidth and the resources, you might consdier reinstalling
[10:54] <liberan> hello. i need a gui program that will search for word within document. in googleing i found a searchmonkey, but before i install it, i wanted to ask does anone recommend some other similar program
[10:55] <blakkheim> liberan: just use grep
[10:55] <Xlaits> liberan: Trial and error my friend. Try it, then find something else if you don't like it.
[10:55] <Xlaits> YeTr2: What's ppa?
[10:55] <Xlaits> !PPA
[10:55] <Cmdr_W_T_Riker> liberan: doesn't any GUI text editor support searching words inside a document? If you watn to do this recursively, over numerous files, consider using grep in the command line interface.
[10:55] <Xlaits> YeTr2: Nevermind.
[10:56] <liberan> blakkheim,  i am aware of grep command. i asked for gui. Xlaits that is good suggestion, but for example, i had to download 5 different mp3 players to find one that will do the trick for now
[10:57] <Xlaits> liberan: Well, that's how I do things. If something dosn't work, try a different program.
[10:57] <liberan> Cmdr_W_T_Riker, actually, for exact thing i need now, grep would do, but sometimes i need something that gui is much more useful and friendly to a newbie
[10:58] <liberan> this comes in comparision to m$ os, such trivial things are very easy to do for newbie.