[12:03] <LiteHedded> okey dokey
[12:03] <ctford0> nope grub-insall hd0 didn't work either
[12:03] <nixternal> hmmm...now that is odd DarkRavenMixage...because if is that way, then it should work
[12:04] <DarkRavenMixage> its very strange....
[12:04] <nixternal> are you logged on as root right now or no?
[12:04] <DarkRavenMixage> now not
[12:04] <nico8481> anyone running amarok 1.4.0 or 1.4.0a ?
[12:04] <DarkRavenMixage> i-m logged as user
[12:04] <mrfishhat> did you remember the t?
[12:04] <DarkRavenMixage> but not from this computer
[12:04] <ctford0> anyone know how to clear out the mbr??
[12:04] <DarkRavenMixage> i-m using a second pc to chat with u
[12:05] <DaSkreech> nico8481: I am
[12:05] <nixternal> ctford0: boot wiht a win98 boot disk...then type     fdisk /mbr
[12:05] <ctford0> lol, yea mrfishhat....
[12:05] <nixternal> that cleans out the mbr
[12:05] <nico8481> DaSkreech: hehe, already asked you i think :) it's about the layout problem for the Playing: area :)
[12:05] <clintc_laptop> how do I tell konqueror that a single left mouse click is for selecting a file versus launching it
[12:05] <DaSkreech> Still have that?
[12:05] <DaSkreech> That
[12:06] <DaSkreech> That's annoying :)
[12:06] <chavo> clintc_laptop, go to Peripherals -> Mouse
[12:07] <nico8481> DaSkreech: hell yes :) filed a bug report but i doubt it's a bug since you don't have it and got it from the same source than i did :-/
[12:07] <nico8481> (well if i remember correctly, http://kubuntu.org/packages/amarok-14 isn't it?)
[12:07] <sokuban> I need something called X (or X-dev) for compiling a source code. I can't seem to find out how to get it.
[12:07] <clintc_laptop> chavo: excellent, thanks
[12:07] <DarkRavenMixage> please help me with KDE  i can only log in as the root if i log with the normal user it says could not start kstartconfig please check your installation
[12:08] <clintc_laptop> does anyone know hoe to turn the konqueror menu back on after turning it off/hiding it
[12:08] <DaSkreech> nico8481: Yeah
[12:09] <nico8481> DarkRavenMixage: did you try on #KDE? maybe they can help...
[12:09] <sokuban> maybe ALT-F3? Might help somehow
[12:09] <nico8481> raaaaaah !
[12:10] <ctford0> go to the contol panel and tell it to start a fresh session
[12:10] <clintc_laptop> sokuban: that doesn't get them
[12:10] <ctford0> that will get yor panel back
[12:10] <sokuban> clintc_laptop: sorry then, I thought there would be a way to turn it back on from that menu
[12:10] <DaSkreech> clintc_laptop: Try Ctrl+M
[12:11] <clintc_laptop> sokuban: yes, I thought so to
[12:11] <sokuban> >__>
[12:11] <sokuban> I need something called X (or X-dev) for compiling a source code. I can't seem to find out how to get it. Anyone know what it is?
[12:12] <kcq> I have Kubuntu 6.06 installed in a proliant 1600 server running dual P2-400Mhz processors (yeah, it's old) - Is there a way to see if the second processor is being used? And if not how to make it available? BIOS post page shows both available but KDE system info seems like it only shows a single processor.
[12:12] <DaSkreech> clintc_laptop: Try Ctrl+M
[12:12] <Sanne> sokuban, if the compiler complains about a filename that it can't find, you can look for the package it's in on packages.ubuntu.com under section "Search the contents of packages"
[12:12] <DarkRavenMixage> please help me with KDE  i can only log in as the root if i log with the normal user it says could not start kstartconfig please check your installation , in #kde they do not answer
[12:13] <sokuban> (I already searched at packages.ubuntu.com) but I googled it, maybe I'll try from the site itself
[12:13] <imbrandon> DarkRavenMixage, try reinstalling kubuntu-desktop
[12:13] <ctford0> kcq, top should list both processors if they are there
[12:13] <DarkRavenMixage> imbrandon allright
[12:13] <Sanne> sokuban, can you paste the error output on some pastebin? I can have a look if you want.
[12:13] <ctford0> you can also try dmesg to see if they are both being detected
[12:13] <DarkRavenMixage> i-ll give a try
[12:14] <ctford0> kcq, after running top press 1 and that should show the loads on both processors seperately
[12:14] <clintc_laptop> DaSkreech: is the winner!
[12:14] <clintc_laptop> thanks , that was driving me nuts
[12:14] <fimblo> kcq: you can run: 'cat /proc/cpuinfo" if you see two CPUs you're ok
[12:15] <sokuban> Huh? I have no error output? I am looking for the package of 'X' (I mean I do have an error output, but its the standard one saying something about not being able to find the package)
[12:16] <DarkRavenMixage> hey
[12:16] <DarkRavenMixage> i figured the problem
[12:16] <DarkRavenMixage> hot to grant all permission of a folder to an user via console_
[12:16] <DarkRavenMixage> ??
[12:16] <DarkRavenMixage> how
[12:16] <DaSkreech> clintc_laptop: sure man
[12:16] <fimblo> darkravenmixage: chmod 777 dirname
[12:16] <mrfishhat> why when i try to use write in ubuntu it says that the user has write disabled?
[12:16] <DaSkreech> clintc_laptop: I think you can do that in any KDE APP
[12:17] <kcq> fimblo: tried it and it shows: processor 0...stepping 2
[12:17] <DarkRavenMixage> firnblo logged as root?
[12:17] <Sanne> sokuban, exactly this error message I would want to see ;)
[12:17] <Sanne> sokuban, there are lots of X development packages, maybe we can find out the correct one.
[12:18] <fimblo> kcq: er, don't you see like 15 lines or so, starting with processor:0 and ending with bogomips: ####?
[12:18] <sokuban> Sanne: Oh, I get it, you want the error message from me compiling, one sec
[12:19] <DarkRavenMixage> firnblo how to give privileges to subdirectories too???
[12:19] <clintc_laptop> DaSkreech: yes, I just tried it with Konversation, when you hide the menu with konqueror via the menu you don't get the helpful message about cntl-m
[12:19] <fimblo> darkrabenmixage: chmod -R 777 dirname
[12:19] <DaSkreech> Ah. That sounds like a bug report :)
[12:20] <fimblo> but this is quite dangerous- it opens you up completely. Better to set it to 750 or something (full permissions for you, run/read permissions for your group, and none for others)
[12:20] <slow-motion> n8
[12:20] <sokuban> Sanne: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15608 Take a look at line 42. The thing happily compiles without X and SDL is trying to use SVGAlib or something that I don't want/
[12:20] <Sanne> sokuban, looking...
[12:21] <dan> Hi everybody !
[12:21] <fimblo> hi
[12:21] <dan> I have a littlre trouble with konqueror
[12:21] <dan> I have lost the preview
[12:21] <dan> of all file
[12:21] <dan> audio, pdf, etc..
[12:22] <dan> do you know how to correct this ?
[12:22] <fimblo> DarkRavenMixage: how did it go?
[12:22] <ctford0> fdisk /mbr just killed my whole partition table
[12:22] <dan> i don't know
[12:22] <fimblo> did you back it up first?
[12:22] <ctford0> lol, guess not
[12:22] <fimblo> sorry ctford0: did you back it up first?
[12:22] <fimblo> :)
[12:22] <fimblo> oops. just run grub again
[12:23] <clintc_laptop> DaSkreech: possibly... there needs to be a more obvious way to recover from turning off the menu... but then again it looks like a basic kde thing
[12:23] <DarkRavenMixage> firnblo i logged in >P
[12:23] <clintc_laptop> I have just moved from gnome to kde
[12:23] <DarkRavenMixage> now i can use kubuntu i log out there and i log in from my pc
[12:23] <fimblo> darkravenmixage: huh?
[12:24] <clintc_laptop> DaSkreech: thanks again... I'll return later and try to help out someone else
[12:24] <DaSkreech> Thanks!
[12:25] <Sanne> sokuban, ok, you're right, it just says it wants general X. So, I would first try the package xlibs-dev, which is a transitional package that depends on a lot of things: http://packages.ubuntu.com/dapper/oldlibs/xlibs-dev
[12:25] <fimblo> ctford0: unless theres a nifty kubuntu tool for rebuilding your mbr, you'll need to run grub and reset it manually
[12:25] <sokuban> Sanne: Ok, I'll go grab it
[12:25] <visik7> ah ah google earth use QT
[12:25] <visik7> ROCKS
[12:25] <Sanne> sokuban, good luck
[12:25] <dan> anyone can help me with a trouble in konqueror ?
[12:26] <kkathman> dan whats wrong?
[12:26] <sokuban> Umm, which one O_O
[12:26] <dan> Now, i can't see any preview in konqueror
[12:26] <nico8481> DaSkreech: could you run "md5sum /var/cache/apt/archives/amarok_2%3a1.4.0a-0ubuntu1_i386.deb" for me please ?
[12:26] <kkathman> preview?
[12:26] <dan> preview in ICON mode
[12:26] <dan> txt, pdf, audio, picture
[12:27] <kkathman> hmm
[12:27] <kkathman> dan do you get an error?
[12:27] <DaSkreech> nico8481: 03991d64de03fef396d925d0842d0f7e
[12:27] <dan> you know what I tell about ?
[12:27] <Hhhhh> hello guys, I'm trying to get mp3 playback working in kubuntu draper 64 bit, I followed the directions inthe Restricted Formats page of the wiki but amaroK doesn't play anything now
[12:27] <dan> no,
[12:27] <Hhhhh> any ideas?
[12:27] <bernier> how can i see which processes are runngin and kill them?
[12:27] <kkathman> dan are you talking about when you are in file manager mode?
[12:27] <dan> He just stop working
[12:28] <nico8481> damn it's identical :-/
[12:28] <fimblo> bernier: to check process list: ps -ef
[12:28] <Hhhhh> bernier, type "ps x" as you'll see what's running.
[12:28] <MidMark> bernier: ctrl+esc
[12:28] <bernier> lol
[12:28] <fimblo> bernier: to kill them, kill <pid>
[12:28] <dan> yes file manager in ICON view mode
[12:28] <bernier> 3 different answer :P
[12:28] <Hhhhh> look up the number (PID) of the process you wanna kill, and then type "kill $$$" where $$$ is that number
[12:28] <fimblo> bernier: all three are correct
[12:28] <DaSkreech> nico8481: Helps?
[12:28] <fimblo> just different flavours
[12:28] <MidMark> bernier: I prefer gui mode always
[12:29] <nico8481> DaSkreech: nope, mine has the same sum :P
[12:29] <dan> and all preview are activated but i can't see
[12:29] <kkathman> dan ok... so you bring up a directory in icon view... so what are you trying to do
[12:29] <fimblo> the wonders of linux is that we have the power of choosing ourselves whats best for us :)
[12:29] <kkathman> like.. click an icon and see it?
[12:29] <dan> i want to show the preview of the file
[12:29] <DaSkreech> nico8481: Did you try a purge and reinstall?
[12:30] <dan> before he worked but now ...not
[12:30] <nico8481> yup
[12:30] <Sanne> sokuban, I figure you're building zsnes? Are you aware that it's in the uubuntu respoitories?
[12:30] <kkathman> dan - right click... then.. preview in....
[12:30] <bernier> comment puis-je enlever un package que jai installer avec apt-get en ligne de commande?
[12:30] <sokuban> Sanne: IT IS?!?!?!?!
[12:30] <nico8481> DaSkreech: http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=128946 <- discribed all i did there
[12:30] <dan> no i know that ;)
[12:30] <dan> lol
[12:30] <Sanne> sokuban, http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_packages.pl?keywords=zsnes&searchon=names&subword=1&version=all&release=all
[12:30] <kkathman> dan, or if you just click, it will usually show in the panel
[12:30] <dan> but in ICON mode , start konqueror file manager
[12:30] <kkathman> at least mine does
[12:30] <sokuban> I want to jump off a cliff now, thanks Sanne
[12:31] <bernier> how can i ermove a package i installed with apt-get in the konsole
[12:31] <nico8481> bernier: apt-get remove nom_du_package
[12:31] <dan> try it yourself
[12:31] <kkathman> right.. I have icon mode right now...and have a graphics directory .. I click the item and it appears in the panel
[12:31] <chavo> kkathman, he's talking about the mini previews of media files in icon mode
[12:31] <dan> start konqueror file-manager mode
[12:31] <bernier> thanks
[12:31] <Bassetts> anyone in here know how to make gnome have an option to save the session like kde?
[12:31] <Bassetts> i want the option though, not for it to just do it
[12:31] <Sanne> sokuban hehe :)
[12:31] <kkathman> dan yea...mine works fine
[12:31] <chavo> Bassetts, it should do it automatically already
[12:32] <dan> then so in a folder with picture, you see all picture preview
[12:32] <Bassetts> chavo: gnome doesnt, in breezy there was the option to, in dapper it doesnt
[12:32] <dan> me not
[12:32] <kkathman> dan yes, in icon view, in a folder with pictures, I see tiny renderings of the photo
[12:33] <dan> that right ! it's my trouble, mine stop working
[12:33] <kkathman> dan   then when I click...the picture opens in that panel
[12:33] <kkathman> dan double check that your file associations are ok
[12:33] <dan> i know when i click, but i want to see the tiny rendering of photo
[12:33] <kkathman> dan - kcontrol - KDE Components - File associations
[12:34] <dan> he work when i click, he open , but my trouble is with the tiny rendering preview
[12:34] <kkathman> dan:  do what I said above
[12:34] <dan> oki, I'll go to see
[12:34] <kkathman> heh.. in my directory, I just hover over the tiny picture and I get an automatica preview
[12:34] <Hhhhh> can anyone give me a hand? I installed libxine-extracodecs in kubuntu draper 64-bits and amaroK still won't play audio files
[12:35] <bernier> now how can i edit which process runs at boot?
[12:35] <Hhhhh> not only mp3, but no .ra or .wma either
[12:35] <dan> and then ??
[12:35] <kkathman> dan - also for picture directories, I'd suggest trying "Image view"
[12:35] <DaSkreech> Night
[12:35] <dan> yep, i known about image view too, not bad ;)
[12:36] <fimblo> good night
[12:36] <dan> but i want to see tiny rendering of PDF file too, TXT file too
[12:36] <kkathman> dan I dunno about the renderings of the txt files
[12:36] <kkathman> if you hover over them you get it
[12:36] <stefre> hi all
[12:37] <dan> but you see the tiny rendering of TXT and PDF file ?
[12:37] <kkathman> no
[12:37] <kkathman> only when you hover over it do you see the rendering
[12:37] <kkathman> but you DO see it then
[12:38] <dan> i know, but mine before i can see the tiny one too
[12:38] <bernier> now how can i edit which process runs at boot?
[12:38] <dan> its the same thing with you go over a MP3 file, he start to play for a preview
[12:39] <kkathman> yes
[12:40] <LiteHedd1d> ok I did the upgrade
[12:40] <fimblo> anyone have experience of nfs mounting /home onto several machines?
[12:40] <LiteHedd1d> do I have to reboot?
[12:40] <sokuban> Sanne: I must be an idiot, because I can't even install it from the package http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15618
[12:41] <TheHighChild> LiteHedd1d: I would make sure you still have your kubuntu-desktop package first
[12:41] <dan> OKi its' working again !
[12:41] <dan> thanks....
[12:41] <[BU] Brizz> has anyone tried the new Google Earth Beta with Linux support?
[12:41] <LiteHedded> how do I do that thehighchild
[12:41] <stefre> can i ask technical issue here ?
[12:41] <TheHighChild> [BU] Brizz: yeah
[12:41] <Sanne> sokuban, looking
[12:41] <[BU] Brizz> TheHighChild: did you install it as a user or root?
[12:42] <TheHighChild> LiteHedded: I would do a 'sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop' in a terminal. if nothing happens, then you have it. if it starts installing, let it. With a dist-upgrade, it removes the package for some folks. When they reboot, they don't get a gui and get scared
[12:42] <TheHighChild> [BU] Brizz: Just regular user. You'll need to chmod u+x though because it's a binary file
[12:42] <dan> I dont know in english but in french is: COmposant KDE, gestionnaire de fichier then Apercu et Mtadonnes
[12:43] <TheHighChild> [BU] Brizz: just mv it where you want it 'chmod u+x Google]  then execute it with './Google'
[12:43] <Sanne> sokuban, you will have better luck to install the packe with adept/synaptic/apt/aptitude package manager, because dpkg doesn't automatically resolve dependencies like those others.
[12:43] <dan> some choice in that have "disparue"
[12:43] <[BU] Brizz> TheHighChild: when it asks where you want to install it to, did you just indicate where root would typically install it?
[12:43] <sokuban> How do you that? >_>
[12:44] <LiteHedded> what's the command to upgrade again?
[12:44] <sokuban> Do I right click open with Adept or something?
[12:44] <Sanne> sokuban, did you already install from the repositories with one of those package managers?
[12:45] <TheHighChild> [BU] Brizz: No, it gave me a default location in my home directory '/home/myusername/google-earth. I changed it to '/home/myusername/.google-earth because I want it hidden. I also created the symbolic link in my home dir. Then to execute it you type './google-earth'
[12:45] <TheHighChild> !upgrade
[12:45] <ubotu> Upgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade. Upgrading to Ubuntu 6.06 Dapper -> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperUpgrades . Note: gksudo "update-manager -d" always updates to the latest development verison: (eft when its open)
[12:45] <sokuban> I used apt-get for all my installing but for some reason I can't use it with zsnes. I have never used Adept before '_'
[12:45] <Sanne> sokuban, apt-get is fine. Why can't you use it for zsnes? What's the output?
[12:46] <sokuban> it can't find it and tells me to try apt-get -f (I think its -f, might have been -k)
[12:47] <Sanne> sokuban, if it can't find it, but you saw it on packages.ubuntu.com, it usually means that you need to enable the universe and/or multiverse repositories.
[12:47] <[BU] Brizz> TheHighChild: I hate installing crap in my home directory :)
[12:47] <sokuban> I did that, I can pastebin my sources.list
[12:47] <edneymatias> see ya!
[12:47] <Sanne> sokuban, yes, please do that.
[12:47] <[BU] Brizz> TheHighChild: I like to install it to the system paths as root and give it user rights, but that doesn't seem to work with Google Earth
[12:47] <bernier> how can i edit which process runs at boot?
[12:48] <[BU] Brizz> TheHighChild: in fact, I got a bunch of error just now trying to install it in my home directory and it recommended me to run it as root
[12:48] <sokuban> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15619
[12:49] <TheHighChild> [BU] Brizz: not sure man. i didn't play with it much, just a quick install like 5 minutes before you asked.
[12:49] <[BU] Brizz> TheHighChild: blast :) hehe
[12:49] <[BU] Brizz> TheHighChild: ironically, it runs fine as root. I get this symlink: permission denied" error when trying to run it
[12:50] <Sanne> sokuban, looking (please remember to type my name so I get alerted when you reply)
[12:50] <TheHighChild> They have Picasa available to work with Wine now too
[12:50] <[BU] Brizz> yah I saw that
[12:50] <[BU] Brizz> and it worked fine
[12:50] <TheHighChild> [BU] Brizz: Are you trying to run it with sudo?
[12:50] <[BU] Brizz> TheHighChild: no, I have done that and it works as sudo, but not as my regular user
[12:50] <[BU] Brizz> TheHighChild: I tried changing the permissions on the symbolic link and the file it linked to, but it gave me the same error
[12:51] <LiteHedded> this update-manager works for kubuntu?
[12:51] <LiteHedded> i think it wants to install ubuntu
[12:51] <[BU] Brizz> TheHighChild: so I'm guessing that it is doing something in the binary file that I don't have permission to do...
[12:51] <TheHighChild> [BU] Brizz: Did you install with sudo?
[12:51] <Sanne> sokuban, yeah, looks good. Did you do: sudo apt-get update
[12:51] <[BU] Brizz> TheHighChild: yeah... I also tried installing it as my regular user account
[12:52] <sokuban> yes, the thing I typed in was 'sudo apt-get install zsnes' is that the package name or is it something else?
[12:52] <sokuban> Sanne: oops forgot your name >_>
[12:53] <LiteHedded> anyone?
[12:53] <TheHighChild> LiteHedded: What's up?
[12:53] <LiteHedded> this update-manager works for kubuntu?
[12:53] <LiteHedded> i think it wants to install ubuntu
[12:53] <TheHighChild> LiteHedded: what manager are we talking about?
[12:53] <h3sp4wn> sokuban: The zsnes WIP runs alot faster with SDL (i.e at 1280 by 1024)
[12:53] <LiteHedded> from !upgrade
[12:53] <LiteHedded> it tells me to install the update-manager package
[12:54] <h3sp4wn> sokuban: The version of zsnes in dapper is very old
[12:54] <Sanne> sokuban, that's correct, I just simulated install and got no complaints. Maybe you have partially installed packages now that apt doesn't like. Can you give me the output of 'sudo apt-get install zsnes'?
[12:54] <TheHighChild> LiteHedded: hmmm. When I did an upgrade I used apt-get 'apt-get dist-upgrade'
[12:54] <bernier> how can i edit which process runs at boot?
[12:54] <Mitja> Hi! When I switch desktops the list is not shown. Any ideas how to turn it on?
[12:54] <sokuban> Oh! I do have a partially installed zsnes. I compiled it from source but I screwed up and it was broken, I thought it could overwrite it.
[12:55] <sokuban> sorry Sanne, but is the dapper one usable?
[12:55] <TheHighChild> Mitja: You don't see the virtual desktop in your bar?
[12:55] <h3sp4wn> http://files.ipherswipsite.com/zsnes/ZSNESS_0527.tar.bz2 is the one you want
[12:55] <TheHighChild> Mitja: or when you ctrl + tab they don't cycle through?
[12:55] <Sanne> sokuban, no, usually hand compiled packages get installed to a different place (/usr/local...) than the files from the repos.
[12:55] <Mitja> TheHighChild, they cycle, but there's is no list displayed.
[12:56] <Sanne> sokuban, but first please let me see the output of the apt command, ok?
[12:56] <sokuban> Sanne: doing it
[12:56] <TheHighChild> Mitja: That is odd. I would check Kmenu > System Settings > regional & accessibility > keyboard shortcuts and make sure they are mapped
[12:57] <LiteHedded> ok i did dist-upgrade
[12:57] <LiteHedded> do I reboot?
[12:57] <Mitja> TheHighChild, ctrl+tab works, just the list doesn't show up
[12:58] <sokuban> Sanne: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15621
[12:58] <Sanne> sokuban, ok
[12:58] <TheHighChild> LiteHedded: After a dist-upgrade is finished. You'll want to reboot or restart your xserver. If your system doesn't come bakc up. Sswtich to a failsafe terminal (ctrl + alt+ f1) and login. Try 'sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop' if your x doesn't start.
[12:59] <MidMark> google earth for linux -> http://earth.google.com/download-earth.html
[12:59] <georgeblunt> n8 all
[01:02] <Sanne> sokuban, hmmm, your package system seems to be a bit out of order. I never did that, but usually you should do what apt tells you (apt-get -f install). But before you do that, maybe somebody esle could have a look and recommend a procedure? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15621
[01:03] <sokuban> Sanne: then it wants me to install some wierd thing, but then when I say yes to it it gives me an error
[01:03] <LiteHedded> i restarted x
[01:03] <LiteHedded> it still says kubuntu 5.10 on my start menu
[01:04] <Sanne> sokuban, which weird thing, and which error? (Sorry, without seeing the output I won't know how to help... I know it's annoying)
[01:04] <LiteHedded> shouldn't it be different for dapper?
[01:05] <Mitja> LiteHedded, 6.06 I guess
[01:05] <LiteHedded> so what do I do. restarting x didn't work
[01:06] <sokuban> Sanne: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15622
[01:07] <Sanne> sokuban, ok
[01:07] <byen> does anyone know how i can increase the size of the window list on the taskbar. mine are too small
[01:07] <byen> i mean the size of the window botton
[01:10] <Sanne> sokuban, it tries to install the needed dependencies, but fails because you have something amiss with your package system. I think line 23 (5 not fully installed or removed) could be the problem. But I never had this situation, so please could somebody else have a look? I don't know how to help further.
[01:10] <chavo> byen, you have to edit ~/.kde/share/config/ktaskbarrc underneath the [General]  section add this ->MaximumButtonWidth=
[01:10] <sokuban> Sanne: I have dinner, I'll be idling (and I eat really fast) so if anyone knows what to do tell me (and put sokuban in the post so I get an alert)
[01:11] <Sanne> sokuban, ok, enjoy your meal :)
[01:11] <byen> chavo: awesome thanks!
[01:11] <Mitja> LiteHedded, can you download iso and burn it to cd? It worked for me.
[01:11] <chavo> then just run -> dcop kicker kicker restart
[01:11] <h3sp4wn> sokuban: sudo apt-get install libsdl1.2debian-all
[01:12] <Bibins> hello
[01:12] <stefre> hi
[01:13] <Kadran> hi does any one know a program that is simmilar to paltalk?
[01:15] <byen> thanks you chavo can i also use MinimumButtonWidth?
[01:15] <chavo> byen, no
[01:16] <byen> ok.. so what should it be like? 80 @ chavo
[01:17] <byen> i will try it out... thanks chavo
[01:17] <chavo> byen, I put mine at 440 takes about half the screen
[01:17] <chavo> on 1280x1024
[01:17] <byen> ooh... ok chavo thanks :P
[01:17] <byen> i will try 300 as mine is 1024x728\
[01:18] <byen> brb.. restart kde
[01:18] <MidMark> google earth for linux rocks!
[01:19] <Kadran> MidMark: did they make one?
[01:19] <MidMark> yes! 4.0 beta is out!
[01:20] <MidMark> google earth for linux -> http://earth.google.com/download-earth.html
[01:20] <Kadran> oh yeah go linux go :), i am gonna try it now
[01:20] <Kadran> thanks
[01:20] <h3sp4wn> It only seems to run as root for me that google earth
[01:20] <MidMark> Kadran: it will impress you, run smootly like windows version
[01:21] <h3sp4wn> Otherwise I get symlink: Permission denied
[01:21] <Kadran> i hated it when it work with wine
[01:21] <MidMark> h3sp4wn: what?
[01:22] <h3sp4wn> can you run google earth as a normal user ?
[01:23] <MidMark> h3sp4wn: mmm no, installed with sudo
[01:23] <sokuban> h3sp4wn: I tried what you said, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15626 and don't mind the close wrapping near the top, sorry
[01:26] <Kadran> does any one know a linux alternative for paltalk?
[01:26] <Kadran> to have voice chat?
[01:26] <Ertain> Are there many current KDE programs in Kubuntu?  All I need to get them is to set apt-get and download them through a mirror?
[01:26] <h3sp4wn> sokuban: Go into interactive aptitude by sudo aptitude
[01:28] <osiris> Kadran, you could look into teamspeak
[01:29] <Kadran> thanks osiris
[01:31] <MidMark> h3sp4wn: any idea to make google earth works also for user?
[01:31] <Sanne> Ertain, yes, you should get them with apt-get (or Adept, or Synaptic, or aptitude...). Which ones are available, you can check out at packages.ubuntu.com.
[01:31] <h3sp4wn> MidMark: I asked you first .....
[01:31] <MidMark> h3sp4wn: ops :)
[01:31] <Ertain> Sanne: Right-o then.  I'll take a look at that site.
[01:32] <Sanne> Ertain, you can also search with: apt-cache search <searchstring>, but this only searches in the repositories you have enabled.
[01:32] <sokuban> h3sp4wn: How do I remove the package? It won't let me and complains about how it needs to be installed to fulfil unmet dependancies
[01:33] <Jack_Sparrow> Yo Ho
[01:33] <h3sp4wn> sokuban: What happens if you go on actions install and remove packages ?
[01:35] <chavo> MidMark, I got googleearth to run as user. I installed it in my ~ but all the files were owned by root, then I just sudo chown chavo .google-earth -R and I can run it
[01:36] <sokuban> h3sp4wn: the thing talks about how these packages are going to be installed for dependancies, but umm how do you delete it? I tried '-' '!' but I don't think that is what I want to use, as the thing isn't even installed.
[01:36] <TheHighChild> Any folks know of problems playing cd's on dapper?
[01:36] <DarkRavenMixage> how to set another language in kubuntu?? i can see only us english in the list...
[01:36] <h3sp4wn> sokuban: What is the name of the package ?
[01:37] <MidMark> chavo: I know but I don't want to install for N users in my system :)
[01:37] <TheHighChild> DarkRavenMixage: You'll probably need to get the language packs
[01:37] <sokuban> h3sp4wn: libsdl1.2debian-all
[01:38] <h3sp4wn> sukuban: sudo dpkg -P libsdl1.2debian-all
[01:38] <haider> join #linuxin.dk
[01:39] <MidMark> h3sp4wn: with googleearth %f starts but fails to create its own dirs... continuing to try
[01:40] <DarkRavenMixage> thehighchild i try to reinstall
[01:40] <DarkRavenMixage> them
[01:40] <Raven301> New to kubuntu, making the switch from Mandriva ...
[01:40] <Raven301> How do I get to the hardware settings (eg sound card driver info or to change it)??
[01:42] <MidMark> chavo: you have right, just change .google-earth owner
[01:42] <MidMark> h3sp4wn: change .google-earth owner with your user in your home
[01:44] <h3sp4wn> MidMark: It does work if you just install it as your user
[01:45] <MidMark> h3sp4wn: nope I have installed via sudo and changed the owner of .google-earth in the home and it works
[01:46] <MidMark> h3sp4wn: of course it works installing via user, but it works only for that user ;)
[01:46] <h3sp4wn> MidMark: Only me uses this computer
[01:46] <Hhhhh> question: how do I get nexuiz's sound working properly?
[01:46] <MidMark> h3sp4wn: anyway I prefer not installing software in my home
[01:47] <h3sp4wn> MidMark: At least it has an uninstall program
[01:47] <h3sp4wn> MidMark: Or script
[01:47] <MidMark> h3sp4wn: where?
[01:47] <TheHighChild> Anyone have trouble with Kate not starting from the command line?
[01:48] <h3sp4wn> MidMark: /usr/local/google-earth/uninstall
[01:48] <MidMark> h3sp4wn: yes but I prefere deb file, they have uninstall too :)
[01:48] <Healot> starting "kate"  from terminal... no
[01:49] <h3sp4wn> MidMark: I don't like using checkinstall (would rather just install it manually) debuild is alot better than that though really (and my preferred way)
[01:50] <h3sp4wn> MidMark: is there a deb of google earth (i.e made properly ?)
[01:51] <MidMark> h3sp4wn: haven't seen for now
[01:53] <chavo> Ok I figured out how to install and let users run it
[01:53] <chavo> run -> sudo sh GoogleEarthLinux.bin --nochown
[01:54] <chavo> then you can put it in /usr/local and still run it as user
[01:55] <chavo> If you have a lot of ram and diskspace go to the config and crank up the cache to the max
[01:56] <james_xxx> how would i go about accessing xorg.conf?
[01:56] <james_xxx> sudo nano xorg.conf?
[01:57] <chavo> james_xxx, that'll work
[01:58] <james_xxx> chavo: ty
[01:58] <Raven301> What is the command for the Control Center in Kubuntu??
[01:59] <h3sp4wn> kcontrol
[02:00] <james_xxx> actually, when i sudo nano xorg.conf..... i don't get xorg.conf lol
[02:00] <h3sp4wn> sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[02:00] <james_xxx> ahhh
[02:00] <james_xxx> ty h3sp4wn
[02:00] <Raven301> h3sp4wn: I've switched from Mandriva, there it was MCC .. Looking for the section to change drivers for sound card etc??
[02:01] <Raven301> h3sp4wn: so is that still kcontrol?
[02:01] <h3sp4wn> Raven301: The sound stuff should be done automatically
[02:01] <h3sp4wn> Raven301: What do you mean by change drivers is the wrong driver being loaded or do you have 2 soundcards
[02:02] <Raven301> h3sp4wn: looking to see what driver is loaded
[02:02] <stn> System Information for    [ antrax ]
[02:02] <stn> OS/Kernel                 Linux 2.6.12-10-386
[02:02] <stn> CPU Info                  AMD Athlon(tm) XP 2700+ 2162.800 Mhz   4276.22 Bogomips
[02:02] <stn> HD Info                   200GB total storage capacity
[02:02] <stn> Memory                    207.195/1012.35MB
[02:02] <stn> Processes                 94
[02:03] <stn> Uptime                    52 min
[02:03] <h3sp4wn> Raven301: Is sound not working ?
[02:03] <visik7> googleearth for linux gtk installer app in qt
[02:03] <visik7> lol
[02:04] <Raven301> h3sp4wn: yes but I'm trying something out and need to see what driver it's using ... New to kubuntu ... Switch from Mandriva today
[02:05] <Raven301> h3sp4wn: in mandriva i just typed mcc and the control center came up and I could change drivers setup the firewall etc
[02:06] <stn> who install the xgl program
[02:06] <h3sp4wn> Raven301: cat /proc/asound/cards && ls -R /proc/asound/card0/ should tell you what you need to know
[02:06] <stn> for dapperr
[02:06] <leafw> !xgl
[02:06] <ubotu> XGL on Ubuntu: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompositeManager - Join #ubuntu-xgl for all the XGL fun on Ubuntu systems.  Pretty videos on http://www.novell.com/linux/xglrelease/  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[02:06] <visik7> !aiglx
[02:06] <ubotu> [aiglx]  http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=145068
[02:07] <Raven301> h3sp4wn: ok thanks but is there something like mcc for kubuntu?
[02:07] <stn> ubuntu
[02:07] <stn> no
[02:07] <stn> kubuntu
[02:07] <h3sp4wn> Raven301: I don't know what mcc is
[02:07] <leafw> stn : same thing.
[02:07] <stn> have a lite diferences
[02:07] <stn> is no same
[02:08] <stn> the program compiz
[02:08] <stn> y not same in kubuntu to ubuntu
[02:08] <Raven301> it's the control center where you can change modem net info drivers hard drive info etc
[02:09] <h3sp4wn> Raven301: Don't know I just use the standard linux tools - System Settings is probably about the closest
[02:09] <Raven301> h3sp4wn: It's using oss the sound card ... I want it to use alsa ... how would I change  it??
[02:09] <Raito> For some reason, with Ktorrent the download stops and it gives me Error: Error: Reading past the end of the file /home/raito/.kde/share/apps/ktorrent/tor0/cache/nameoffileintorrent What happened?
[02:09] <h3sp4wn> Raven301: How do you know it is supported by alsa ?
[02:10] <Raven301> be I've used it before and that is what I need for testing E17 module
[02:10] <h3sp4wn> Raven301: How do you know that it is using oss ?
[02:10] <Raven301> the command you gave me
[02:11] <h3sp4wn> just because oss_mixer is there it doesn't mean you are using oss
[02:11] <Raven301> h3sp4wn: oh ... ok ... but System Settings is what i'm looking for thanks
[02:12] <h3sp4wn> Try running aplay /usr/share/sounds/KDE_Startup.wav (if that works alsa is working)
[02:14] <Raven301> h3sp4wn: thanks ... so aplay is for alsa?
[02:15] <h3sp4wn> arecord, aplay - command-line sound recorder and player for ALSA soundcard driver (first line of man aplay)
[02:15] <Raven301> h3sp4wn: big thanks :)
[02:21] <bojan> i just upgraded to dapper
[02:21] <bojan> and its really messed up =[
[02:21] <bojan> like nothing shows up in my taskbar
[02:22] <bojan> there were no buttons in it
[02:22] <bojan> and i had to add the buttons (Kmenu etc...) manually
[02:22] <bojan> and no applications show up in it
[02:22] <bojan> if I minimize an app I have to Alt+Tab to it to get it back
[02:22] <bojan> anyone know whats up?
[02:24] <Sanne> bojan, I don't know what's happened to you, but you could add the taskbar applet back to the panel by right clicking -> add to panel
[02:24] <bojan> i did that
[02:24] <Sanne> oh
[02:24] <bojan> but for example i have konversation open now, there is no item in the taskbar for konversation
[02:25] <bojan> k nvm
[02:25] <bojan> my kicker was completely messed for some reason
[02:25] <Sanne> bojan, did you get it worked out?
[02:26] <bojan> yes i think so
[02:26] <Sanne> bojan, what did you do (so I know what to do if it happens to me)?
[02:26] <bojan> i added taskbar as u said
[02:27] <bojan> i thought i already did that though
[02:27] <bojan> sorry
[02:27] <bojan> so i did it again
[02:27] <Sanne> bojan, ah, ok, no worries :)
[02:38] <ryanakca> "68020 processor or better" = 686?
[02:39] <SurfnKid> whoa
[02:39] <SurfnKid> I guess this is better than xubuntu
[02:39] <SurfnKid> thats a lot of people
[02:40] <ryanakca> SurfnKid: just because more people use it doesn't mean it's better...
[02:40] <SurfnKid> good point
[02:40] <SurfnKid> thats why im in xubuntu
[02:40] <SurfnKid> :)
[02:40] <ryanakca> this about it... More people use windows... but that doesn't make it better than linux... :)
[02:40] <SurfnKid> makes it more dependent
[02:42] <bleaked> how might one do a system wide dependency check and fix?  (preferably with aptitude)
[02:43] <kkathman> dependency check??? hmm dont know why you'd need that
[02:44] <kkathman> when you install, it does that at the same time
[02:48] <bleaked> kkathman: well, you see, i turned a good friend onto *ubuntu.. he played with both livecds, my tricked out kde pc, and still decided on a gnome-centric desktop.. so whatever, i encouraged it and he installed.  since he's new to linux, i have had to help him out a little bit.. for somethings i needed to know the gnome desktop, so i installed the ubuntu-desktop package for this purpous.  time has passed and i need not help him, and so since
[02:49] <bleaked> make sense?
[02:52] <bleaked> kkathman: did you get my msg?
[02:52] <kkathman> yes
[02:53] <kkathman> well if you installed everything to completion...including the gnome, I dont think you should have any issues
[02:53] <bleaked> kkathman: ok, i just saw my own quit msg and i wasn't sure if it went through..
[02:53] <kkathman> only if you have hard-installed some other component, or compiled your own..etc
[02:53] <kkathman> there might be a compatibility, but you'd probably know by now
[02:54] <kkathman> worse case, copy your $HOME over to a cd or something and reinstall...its not that big of a deal :)
[02:54] <becster> Anyone know of a workaround for the sharing module in kcontrol? To get it working etc?
[02:55] <bleaked> another question for the channel.. when i had kde installed on my deb box, in konq, there was an option to split the view into two windows.. (i see how to do that in kubuntu), but you could also turn one of the split views into a terminal that was linked to actions you did in the graphical file browser..
[02:55] <kkathman> howdy Snake :)
[02:56] <Snake> kkathman: heyy
[02:56] <Snake> kkathman: spending more time in here?
[02:56] <kkathman> Snake:  sigh...Im always here, in #suse and in ##windows :)
[02:56] <kkathman> I run all three
[02:57] <Snake> kkathman: I know, but you seem to be chillin in here more :)
[02:58] <Snake> kkathman: as you did see me come in (unless your constantly rotating your screen)
[03:00] <kkathman> Snake:  I have kvirc so I dont need to rotate the screens..I see them all at once
[03:00] <kkathman> I dont like that tabbed stuff
[03:00] <kkathman> like Konversation
[03:00] <Snake> kkathman: ahh gotcha
[03:01] <Snake> kkathman: yes them evil evil tabs :P
[03:01] <kkathman> heh
[03:01] <DaSkreech> Snake: The kwin tabs?
[03:09] <kkathman> wb Snake
[03:09] <hybrid> Snake: nice disco
[03:09] <Snake> kkathman: sorry I got pwned by a n00b that said /disco would make a neat ascii art thing.
[03:09] <kkathman> uh oh
[03:09] <kkathman> lol
[03:11] <RawSewage> http://earth.google.com/
[03:12] <bojan> i have no soundi have no sound in dapper now =[volumes seem ok. sound settings same as before. any ideas?
[03:12] <RawSewage> new version of Google Earth released today, and first time native Linux version
[03:13] <DaSkreech> World Wind
[03:13] <CheeseBurgerMan> RawSewage: Yep. And it works on amd64. :P
[03:14] <RawSewage> I dont have 64 bit
[03:14] <CheeseBurgerMan> RawSewage: Maybe not, but I do, and sometimes things need a bit of convincing to run. :)
[03:15] <RawSewage> just think of yourself as a pioneer
[03:15] <CheeseBurgerMan> lol
[03:19] <Mitja> What's the postfix for konqueror to open a new tab?
[03:21] <DaSkreech> Mitja: Sorry?
[03:22] <Mitja> konqueror %u opens a new konqueror, what opens a new tab inside already opened konqueror?
[03:23] <DaSkreech> Ah.. Not sure
[03:24] <Mitja> How can setup default mount point for removable media like usbdisk?
[03:25] <kkathman> Mitja:  you'll need to set your browser settings to open in the current window
[03:25] <kkathman> at least that works in FFox and Opera
[03:26] <CheeseBurgerMan> kkathman: In opera you can do 'opera --newtab' to get a new tab. Dunno about Firefox/Konqueror
[03:26] <kkathman> gosh I never really worried...just set the settings in the browser...works for me :)
[03:29] <Healot> Mitja: you can set the entry manually in fstab
[03:30] <Mitja> Healot, I can
[03:30] <Healot> but the device name might change...
[03:30] <Mitja> Healot, how often?
[03:30] <Healot> so I suggest to keep it dynamic...
[03:30] <jagch> hi, i'm new to linux, and created another account for my wife, but in that account I can not mount the hard/usb drives ... is something related to permissions?
[03:31] <Healot> Mitja: if you pull the device off and plug it in back without properly umounting the device
[03:31] <Healot> but if you're sure the device name doesn't change, then you can keep the entry in fstab
[03:31] <Mitja> Speaking of umounting, how do I create an icon on the destkop?
[03:31] <DaSkreech> jagch: How do you mount drives in your account?
[03:32] <jagch> well, in my account they are mounted when kubuntu starts
[03:32] <DrBair> Mitja: the new account will need to be in the plugdev group
[03:32] <Healot> in KDE, you can add Device icon manually... and add the entry of a device listed in fstab
[03:33] <DaSkreech> jagch: ah.
[03:33] <DrBair> jagch: last one was for you, sorry
[03:33] <Snake__> kkathman: you here
[03:34] <Snake__> kkathman: come on!! ping ping ping!
[03:34] <jagch> when i switch to the another session i can see the hard drives, but only can read the one where kubuntu is installed
[03:35] <Kadran> MidMark: hi
[03:36] <Mitja> Healot, thank you
[03:36] <DaSkreech> hahaha!!onehundredeleven!!
[03:37] <DaSkreech> Beats of Rage is released for Linux :-)
[03:37] <Snake__> DaSkreech: whats that
[03:37] <newuserAK> does anybody know what "mrv8k: probe of 0000:07:00.0 failed with error -2" means when im trying to access my pcmcia wifi card?
[03:37] <DaSkreech> http://www.senileteam.com/borinfo.php
[03:39] <Snake__> DaSkreech: cool
[03:39] <DaSkreech> Yeah
[03:39] <Snake__> I half wish I had a dance pad for stepmania
[03:44] <RawSewage> how do you install a .bin file again
[03:44] <RawSewage> !bin
[03:44] <ubotu> Not a clue. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, RawSewage
[03:44] <RawSewage> !.bin
[03:44] <ubotu> RawSewage: No idea, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[03:45] <DaSkreech> RawSewage: try ./file.bin
[03:45] <RawSewage> ty
[03:45] <RawSewage> no
[03:46] <Mitja> Anybody knows where are removable media settings?
[03:46] <CheeseBurgerMan> RawSewage: Make sure you make it executable.
[03:46] <RawSewage> oh
[03:46] <jagch> correction... i created a new user, when i login as that user i can see hard/usb drives (they indicate to be mounted), but i'm not allowed to read their content ... anyone can help me?
[03:46] <RawSewage> ok ty
[03:48] <imbrandon> menmel
[03:49] <imbrandon> is gonna die
[03:49] <imbrandon> haha
[03:49] <svivian> Good evening all, having a problem with 6.06 display configuration: When I go in to configure the screen configuration, I click Administrator mode, start making modification, everything seems to be fine, but I can't apply any of my changes. I have an ATI FireGL card (which was apparently detected properly), and have dual monitors (I am trying to set it up as one wide screen).
[03:53] <kyle_> Hey, how do I reinstall the boot menu? it wants to boot into windows all the time
[03:53] <svivian> kyle_: Edit /boot/grub/menu.list
[03:55] <svivian> kyle_: Count the number of "title"s you see, starting at 0, until you reach the WIndows line, then change the Default number to that number you reached. Save, and reboot (you will need to sudo in order to edit that file).
[03:55] <RawSewage> Google Earth is running me in slow software mode
[03:55] <DrBair> RawSewage: got video drivers?
[03:56] <RawSewage> yes, it worked on Windows
[03:56] <DrBair> RawSewage: but do you have video drivers installed in linux?
[03:56] <RawSewage> I guess not
[03:56] <Healot> RawSewage: you enabled 3D acceleration?
[03:56] <RawSewage> how do I do that
[03:56] <RawSewage> no
[03:56] <DrBair> what vid card do you have?
[03:56] <Healot> depends on what graphics adapter you have
[03:56] <RawSewage> I dont know
[03:57] <RawSewage> how do I find out
[03:57] <DrBair> run lspci and look for it in there
[03:57] <DrBair> in a terminal window
[03:57] <RawSewage> ok
[03:57] <Healot> or just open the KDE Info Center
[03:57] <DrBair> that too...
[03:57] <Healot> X server section
[03:57] <RawSewage> 0000:01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NV25 [GeForce4 Ti 4200]  (rev a3)
[03:58] <DrBair> i wish i knew how to make ubotu do stuff
[03:58] <RawSewage> I navigated to the KDE control module for hardware
[03:59] <DrBair> !nvidia
[03:59] <ubotu> nvidia is probably Help about installing the nVidia drivers on Ubuntu can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[03:59] <Healot> that one...
[03:59] <DrBair> wow, i am just good
[03:59] <DrBair> :-)
[03:59] <DrBair> RawSewage: check out the link
[03:59] <RawSewage> the generic NVIDIA GEForce4 driver is already installed
[04:00] <DrBair> use adept instead of synaptic obviously
[04:00] <RawSewage> the generic NVIDIA GEForce4 driver is already installed.  should I still visit that link?
[04:00] <DrBair> the generic driver does not have 3D acceleration
[04:00] <RawSewage> ok
[04:00] <RawSewage> Im at the list of drivers I can use
[04:01] <RawSewage> I just need to know which one to choose
[04:01] <RawSewage> ok, I'll follow the instructions on that page.  ty
[04:02] <kwtm> How do I get rid of Katapult?  It keeps intercepting my favourite key combination, Alt-Space.
[04:03] <imbrandon> sudo apt-get --purge remove katapult
[04:03] <RawSewage> you dont have to get rid of it.  just go to the menu editor, select Katapult, and it gives you options
[04:03] <DrBair> kwtm: or just killall katapult
[04:03] <svivian> Good evening all, having a problem with 6.06 display configuration: When I go in to configure the screen configuration, I click Administrator mode, start making modification, everything seems to be fine, but I can't apply any of my changes. I have an ATI FireGL card (which was apparently detected properly), and have dual monitors (I am trying to set it up as one wide screen).
[04:03] <DaSkreech> kwtm: Alt+space
[04:03] <DaSkreech> Then Ctrl+C
[04:03] <DaSkreech> change the shortcut key to something else
[04:04] <kwtm> DaSkreech, DrBair, imbrandon: Thanks.  Didn't know that.  RawSewage: Tell me more.  Katapult is in the menu?  I can't find it anywhere; it seems to have insinuated itself into the system.  I think it's useful, if only I could change the activating key combo.
[04:05] <RawSewage> Utilities
[04:05] <DaSkreech> kwtm: Follow my instructions
[04:05] <Cayou> Hi guys, Screensaver not turning on here, happenned to anyone?
[04:05] <kwtm> DaSkreech: Will try.
[04:06] <DrBair>  Cayou: do you have the start automatically checkbox checked?
[04:06] <RawSewage> follow DaSkreech's instructions then
[04:07] <Cayou> DrBair: Yes, but it doesn't start..
[04:07] <kwtm> DaSkreech, RawSewage: Thank you!  I have been tearing my hair out.  It would be nice if it showed up on the system tray (which I have now set it to do) so that I can at least get a context menu.
[04:07] <RawSewage> I think the Alt+Space might be hard-coded
[04:08] <RawSewage> now that I look at it
[04:08] <kwtm> RawSewage: No, I have changed it to Win+Space
[04:08] <DaSkreech> RawSewage: Doubt it
[04:08] <RawSewage> ok
[04:08] <DrBair> Cayou: does it go to a blank screen when it should pull up the screen saver?
[04:08] <DaSkreech> Try Alt+Space then Ctrl+C
[04:08] <kwtm> RawSewage: It makes much more sense to make window management key combos use the Win key, since otherwise the key is completely useless.  I have no idea what the Windows users use it for.
[04:08] <Cayou> DrBair: No, it just doesn't do anything
[04:08] <RawSewage> cool
[04:09] <RawSewage> Windows pops up the Start Menu I think
[04:09] <Ultrannosaur> hey DaSkreech
[04:09] <CaBlGuY> !seen Hobsee
[04:09] <ubotu> i haven't seen 'hobsee', CaBlGuY
[04:09] <Ultrannosaur> this is AMEGALUSX if you're wondering
[04:09] <DaSkreech> Yup?
[04:09] <imbrandon> !seen hobbsee
[04:09] <ubotu> hobbsee <n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee> was last seen on IRC in channel #ubuntu-offtopic, 10h 38m 29s ago, saying: '@time sydney'.
[04:09] <kwtm> DaSkreech: good call.       How come all the icons are in a horizontal row now and taking up precious screen real estate?
[04:12] <Official_C> DaSkreech: thanks
[04:12] <CaBlGuY> imbrandon well, I got access to my slave win. partition but I don't have permision to write or save stuff to it. Can ya guide me thorugh that??  or point me in the right direction....
[04:12] <FreshPrince> hi @ all
[04:12] <DaSkreech> Cool though I didn't help with that :)
[04:12] <imbrandon> kwtm, adjust the height of kicker in systemsettings --> appearance
[04:12] <CaBlGuY> greets FreshPrince
[04:12] <FreshPrince> does anybody use kubuntu on a notebook?
[04:12] <Official_C> haha, my bad, read the wrong name
[04:13] <kwtm> imbrandon: will try.    Do you mean System Settings > Panel?  I guess I could adjust the size of the panel, but I hadn't touched it before, and I don't want it too large...
[04:14] <CheeseBurgerMan> FreshPrince: I disabled the tap-to-click.
[04:14] <Cayou> kkathman: how?
[04:14] <kkathman> Cayou:  just turn on your display power management and run the times as high as you can
[04:14] <imbrandon> kwtm, just make it < 48pix to make two rows of icons
[04:15] <FreshPrince> CheeseBurgerMan: how u mean?
[04:15] <kwtm> imbrandon: ok, will try
[04:15] <kkathman> Cayou:  rt click the desktop, configure desktop...choose display and then the power mgmt tab
[04:15] <CheeseBurgerMan> FreshPrince: When I tap my touchpad, the laptop doesn't interpret it as a left click. By default, it does.
[04:15] <Cayou> I don't get the power mgmt tab
[04:16] <kkathman> Cayou  its called Power Control
[04:16] <LiteHedded> ok i did the dist-upgrade and I dont think it worked
[04:16] <Cayou> kkathman : do you mean the option to turn the monitor off after a set time? (Power Saving)?
[04:17] <kkathman> Cayou:  Right click the desktop, choose "Configure Desktop".. on the left choose DISPLAY...then go to the Power control tab
[04:17] <kkathman> then enable power control
[04:17] <Cayou> kkathman : there is no DISPLAY :(
[04:17] <kkathman> WHAT??
[04:17] <kwtm> imbrandon: Damn, making the panel thinner doesn't make the system tray (is that same as "kicker", or is "kicker" the whole panel?) take up two rows.  I tried making it thicker, thick enough that now the taskbar is three rows by n columns, and still the system tray is only one single horizontal row of icons.  Is there some way of adjust the icon size itself?  I'll have to look around.
[04:17] <kkathman> Cayou:  what happens when you right click on the desktop?
[04:18] <Cayou> I got : Background, Behavior, Multiple Desktops and Screen Saver
[04:19] <LiteHedded> ok i did the dist-upgrade and I dont think it worked
[04:19] <kkathman> hmm
[04:19] <kkathman> weird
[04:19] <Cayou> kkathman: I did find a Power Saving tab under System Settings in the menu, the only option there is to turn off the monitor after a set period of time
[04:19] <Sebastian> hey, i had a partition for windows and another for kubuntu, i remember i had downloaded some drive so i could open the kubuntu partition from windows but now i can't, i go to my computer and click on W:// and it says it's not been formatted asks me if i want to format it and i say no but it won't let me open it
[04:19] <svivian> anyone?
[04:20] <kkathman> Cayou:  try this instead...   alt-f2  type kcontrol... choose peripherals then display
[04:20] <RawSewage> Ok, I think I got it working
[04:20] <svivian> Also, just downloaded a bunch of packages. For some reason the X screensaver doesn't show up in the menu like it did for Kubuntu 5.10
[04:21] <Cayou> kkathman, same option to turn the monitor off after a time, but I only want the screensaver
[04:21] <rredd4> I tried to install kubuntu onto an existing ext3 partition, when I got to the swap part, the installer could not see it.  I was using the desktop cd, dapper.   not sure why it would not allow me to use existing swap..
[04:21] <kkathman> Cayou:  thats weird
[04:21] <kkathman> I guess kubuntu disabled that option
[04:21] <rredd4> I was putting it over debian
[04:21] <kkathman> sux
[04:21] <kwtm> imbrandon: Holy cow.  I think I know what happened.  I was running Grip.  When I closed it and its icon disappeared from the system tray, everything went back to two rows.  Probably because Grip is a GNOME application and doesn't know how to behave in a KDE tray.
[04:22] <kkathman> Im on SUSE right now...maybe somone can tell you where the display power saving is
[04:22] <imbrandon> heh
[04:22] <Cayou> kkathman, you were saying :"run the times as high as you can"... what did you mean?
[04:22] <kkathman> Cayou:  on the power control tab on my install, you can determine how long a time there is before the display shuts off
[04:23] <kkathman> Cayou:  stand-by, suspend and power off times
[04:23] <imbrandon> Cayou, on kubuntu goto system setting ---> display ---> power tab ( last one )
[04:23] <Official_C> is anyone here good at writing shell scripts?
[04:23] <imbrandon> uncheck that box
[04:23] <svivian> Anyone have any thoughts on why I can't apply changes in the display System Settings?
[04:23] <Cayou> kkathman : I don't want the display to shut off, only the screensaver. Also, I don't have the stand-by, suspend options
[04:24] <kkathman> imbrandon:  no he wants to set that to get the screensaver to work
[04:24] <kkathman> KDE has a quirk that the screensaver wont engage unles power mgmt is enabled (dumb but true)
[04:24] <imbrandon> kkathman, that has nothing to do with the screen saver
[04:24] <kkathman> well actually it does :)
[04:24] <kkathman> seemingly it shouldnt
[04:24] <kkathman> hehe
[04:24] <imbrandon> kkathman, mine works fine without pwr mgmt
[04:24] <kkathman> you have to enable it first..then you cant turn it off :)
[04:25] <kkathman> hehe
[04:25] <kkathman> I learned that from #kde
[04:25] <Cayou> kkathman : oh... I see.. that's a weird bug...  The problem is my monitor is getting a little old and it needs to be "warm" to work properly, if it shuts dows it gets cold ... (I know, time to buy new monitor...)
[04:25] <kkathman> yah they think its weird too
[04:25] <kkathman> hehe
[04:26] <CaBlGuY> kkathman: my SS works just fine and I haven't messed with the power save stuff at all...
[04:26] <kkathman> CaBlGuY:  what KDE vers
[04:26] <CaBlGuY> 3.5
[04:26] <Cayou> kkathman, I'll try that and stop typing for a minute, brb
[04:26] <kkathman> 3.5 what?
[04:26] <imbrandon> 3.5.2 and 3.5.3
[04:26] <imbrandon> on mine
[04:26] <imbrandon> ;)
[04:26] <kkathman> both?
[04:27] <kkathman> at the same time?
[04:27] <kkathman> lol
[04:27] <imbrandon> i have many diffrent boxes here i develope with ;)
[04:27] <imbrandon> and yes one has both
[04:27] <imbrandon> actualy both + kde4 svn
[04:27] <imbrandon> ;)
[04:27] <kkathman> I have 3.5.2 on kubuntu and 3.5.3 on SUSE
[04:27] <CaBlGuY> 3.5 KDE
[04:27] <imbrandon> all my boxes are kubuntu
[04:27] <CaBlGuY> brb
[04:28] <kkathman> CaBlGuY:  I meant  3.5.0, 3.5.1, 3.5.2, or 3.5.3 :)
[04:28] <kkathman> lol
[04:28] <kkathman> its ok
[04:28] <kkathman> np
[04:29] <Healot> you meant ubuntu with KDE ?
[04:29] <Healot> hehe
[04:30] <kkathman> ubuntu w/KDE = Kubuntu :)
[04:30] <kkathman> hehe
[04:30] <kkathman> bbl
[04:30] <CaBlGuY> Oh..  ya silly..   it's 3.5.0 I believe../.
[04:30] <Cayou> kkathman: still won't work... oh well..
[04:30] <imbrandon> CaBlGuY, type /sysinfo
[04:30] <CheeseBurgerMan> CaBlGuY: Dapper comes with 3.5.2 by default.
[04:31] <Cayou> Sysinfo for 'steve-desktop': Linux 2.6.15-23-686 running KDE 3.5.3, CPU: Intel(R)Pentium(R)4CPU3.00GHz at 2999 MHz (5996 bogomips), , RAM: 313/502MB, 96 proc's, 5.45h up
[04:31] <RawSewage> Google EArth works great on Linux
[04:31] <Healot> you tried it? with 3D acceleration
[04:32] <imbrandon> RawSewage, depends on your box , not for everyone ..... http://www.buntudot.org/people/~imbrandon/screenshots/snapshot5.png
[04:32] <CaBlGuY> not givin me anything when I type /sysinfo
[04:32] <RawSewage> imbrandon, did you get todays Linux release
[04:32] <CaBlGuY> CheeseBurgerMan:  I installed base Ubuntu and then installed KDE after the fact
[04:33] <imbrandon> RawSewage, thats todays linux release
[04:33] <imbrandon> ;)
[04:33] <RawSewage> why is it doing that
[04:33] <imbrandon> exactly, thats why i said not for everyone ;)
[04:33] <RawSewage> and why did you make your LInux look like Windows
[04:33] <LiteHedded> ok i did the dist-upgrade and I dont think it worked
[04:33] <imbrandon> RawSewage, becouse i can
[04:34] <imbrandon> LiteHedded, why do you say that ?
[04:34] <RawSewage> lol
[04:34] <CheeseBurgerMan> CaBlGuY: Doesn't matter, you'll still get the default version unless you added a non-default repo for a later version.
[04:34] <LiteHedded> in my start menu it still says 5.10
[04:34] <CheeseBurgerMan> CaBlGuY: In your Konversation type '/sysinfo'
[04:34] <imbrandon> did you reboot after the upgrade ?
[04:34] <CaBlGuY> ok, gimme a sec
[04:35] <imbrandon> CaBlGuY, in konvorsation no konsole
[04:35] <LiteHedded> yea I rebooted imbrandon
[04:35] <imbrandon> ahh wait
[04:35] <imbrandon> CaBlGuY, you not on konversation you using a gnome irc client
[04:35] <imbrandon> thats why
[04:35] <imbrandon> [21:33]  [CTCP]  Received CTCP-VERSION reply from CaBlGuY: xchat-gnome 0.11 Linux 2.6.15-23-k7 [i686]
[04:35] <CheeseBurgerMan> OK then, paste the results of 'kded --version'
[04:36] <imbrandon> LiteHedded, type "cat /etc/issue.net" in a konsole and tell me what it says
[04:36] <LiteHedded> k lemme try it
[04:36] <LiteHedded> lemme join here from the linux machine
[04:36] <GullyFoyle> how do i get ksmoothdock to start automatically? do i put it in ~/.kde/Autostart?
[04:36] <CaBlGuY> yes, actually I am using Gnome IRC client while logged into KDE environemtn.. :P
[04:36] <imbrandon> GullyFoyle, a link you it yes
[04:36] <LiteHedded> says it's still breezy imbrandon
[04:37] <LiteHedded> ok back
[04:37] <LiteHedded> still here imbrandon?
[04:37] <CaBlGuY> so, imbrandon I would have to switch over to use the /sysinfo then yes?
[04:37] <imbrandon> LiteHedded, ok hold on PM we'll get you fixed up
[04:37] <LiteHedded> okie dokie
[04:38] <imbrandon> CaBlGuY, i personaly wouldent use a gnome client on kde but in konsole type what CheeseBurgerMan said and it wqill do the same thing
[04:38] <CaBlGuY> imbrandon well, yur not me. ;)
[04:38] <svivian> Sysinfo for 'CSASYSADMINL': Linux 2.6.15-23-386 running KDE 3.5.2, CPU: Intel(R)Pentium(R)DCPU3.20GHz at 2800 MHz (6405 bogomips), , RAM: 901/1011MB, 106 proc's, 54.25min up
[04:39] <svivian> anyone?
[04:39] <CaBlGuY> I actually kinda like the Gnome environment better, I'm a "minimalist" but KDE visualy looks nicer..
[04:39] <svivian> anyone?
[04:40] <Healot> CaBlGuY: if you're a minimalist, you should choose xfce or twm ...
[04:40] <GullyFoyle> i like fluxbox with kde support, it's blazing fast
[04:40] <CaBlGuY> Healot:  what r thoze?
[04:40] <CheeseBurgerMan> svivian: Try running 'kdesu kcontrol' - that way you won't need to use Admin mode
[04:41] <Official_C> anyone try xgl?
[04:41] <CaBlGuY> Official_C:  I got it installed yes..
[04:41] <Official_C> i saw a demo video of it today...its pretty sick
[04:41] <Official_C> CaBleGuy: how do you like it
[04:41] <CaBlGuY> Official_C:  works good for me...  seems to anyway..
[04:41] <CaBlGuY> no probs thus far..
[04:42] <Official_C> cawhat kinda specs do you have?
[04:42] <svivian> CheeseBurgerMan: Just tried that. I get errors:
[04:42] <svivian> X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 168
[04:42] <svivian>   Major opcode:  145
[04:42] <svivian>   Minor opcode:  3
[04:42] <svivian>   Resource id:  0x0
[04:42] <svivian> Failed to open device
[04:42] <svivian> X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 168
[04:42] <svivian>   Major opcode:  145
[04:42] <svivian>   Minor opcode:  3
[04:42] <svivian>   Resource id:  0x0
[04:42] <svivian> Failed to open device
[04:42] <NthDegree> CaBlGuY if you are a minimalist then use xubuntu and expert setup to install only the base system and manually apt-get the parts you want from there
[04:43] <NthDegree> :p anyway's i'm off to bed
[04:43] <NthDegree> night :)
[04:43] <CheeseBurgerMan> svivian: OK then, run 'sudo -i' and then run 'kcontrol'
[04:43] <svivian> CheeseBurgerMan: ERROR: KUniqueApplication: Can't determine DISPLAY. Aborting.
[04:44] <svivian> CheeseBurgerMan: I think something got missed in the install.
[04:44] <CheeseBurgerMan> Yeah, apparently.
[04:44] <CheeseBurgerMan> can you run 'systemsettings' ?
[04:45] <CaBlGuY> Hmmmmmm
[04:45] <svivian> CheeseBurgerMan: Cannot connect to X server
[04:45] <CaBlGuY> well, once I learn Linux like I need to, I'll get right on that.. :p
[04:45] <CaBlGuY> brb
[04:45] <ubuntu> hmm
[04:46] <ubuntu> 6.06 is damn nice.
[04:46] <CheeseBurgerMan> svivian: What can you run?
[04:47] <GullyFoyle> how do i add a pager to my taskbar?
[04:47] <svivian> adept runs fine, other regular apps run fine. Terminal is ok
[04:47] <CaBlGuY> well, I aint got Konversation..  :/
[04:47] <CaBlGuY> I'm in KSirc now..
[04:47] <CaBlGuY> :p
[04:47] <svivian> I just run into problems with the "Administrator Mode" button
[04:48] <CheeseBurgerMan> Hmm, what can you run as root?
[04:48] <nivek> everything?
[04:48] <nivek> >.>
[04:50] <svivian> CheeseBurgerMan: give me an example.
[04:50] <svivian> CheeseBurgerMan: just ran xscreensaver. It barked at me, so I know it is installed. However, it never showed up on the menu like it did in 5.10
[04:50] <CheeseBurgerMan> krita, gwenview
[04:51] <svivian> CheeseBurgerMan: I keep getting "cannot connect to X server"
[04:51] <CheeseBurgerMan> I'm not sure what's wrong with it. :(
[04:51] <svivian> CheeseBurgerMan: Is there an easy way to reinstall X?
[04:51] <CheeseBurgerMan> You can reconfigure it easily. I'm not sure about reinstalling.
[04:52] <svivian> CheeseBurgerMan: Or rather, is there a package on which all the other X packs depend, so I can remove it and reinstall?
[04:52] <CheeseBurgerMan> To be perfectly honest, I'm not sure.
[04:52] <imbrandon> svivian, type "xhost +" as your normal user before trying to run an x app as root
[04:52] <svivian> CheeseBurgerMan: It must be installed, or KDE wouldn't run, I'm thinking
[04:52] <CaBlGuY> brb again...
[04:52] <CheeseBurgerMan> Yes, I know it's installed, I just dont know what package. ;)
[04:52] <barros_> hi all.. i've just noticed a package called linux-kernel-header.. how can I remove (or update) it to my vanilla kernel
[04:52] <barros_> ?
[04:53] <svivian> imbrandon: What will that do?
[04:53] <imbrandon> alloow root to connect to your x server
[04:53] <svivian> imbrandon: I get: access control disabled, clients can connect from any host
[04:53] <imbrandon> barros sudo apt-get install linux-headers-(`uname -r`)
[04:54] <imbrandon> svivian, right now try sudo -i
[04:54] <imbrandon> and kcontrol
[04:54] <barros_> imbrandon: does it work when I compile a vanilla kernel?
[04:54] <svivian> imbrandon: I ran xscreensaver again. It launched, but I also saw
[04:54] <svivian> xscreensaver: warning: $DISPLAY is not set: defaulting to ":0.0".
[04:54] <svivian> Unknown device ID 5B64, please report. Assuming plain R300.
[04:54] <imbrandon> yes that gets the current running kernel version app
[04:55] <barros_> E: Couldn't find package linux-headers-<IP_ADDRESS>
[04:55] <imbrandon> ahh barros you dident compile from ubuntu sources ?
[04:55] <barros_> nope.. got it from kernel.org
[04:56] <imbrandon> ahh then thats where you need to get the source from and unzip it to /usr/src/linux
[04:56] <imbrandon> you have to do things by hand now that you have done it the un official way
[04:56] <svivian> imbrandon: I still get ERROR: KUniqueApplication: Can't determine DISPLAY. Aborting.
[04:56] <imbrandon> svivian, try ....
[04:56] <imbrandon> svivian, try "export DISPLAY=:0" as root
[04:57] <CaBlGuY> okey dokey..
[04:57] <CaBlGuY> Sysinfo for 'none': Linux 2.6.15-23-k7 running KDE 3.5.2, CPU: AMDAthlon at 995 MHz (1992 bogomips), , RAM: 932/1010MB, 93 proc's, 20.3h up
[04:57] <barros_> imbrandon: hmm.. can I just remove all files from linux-kernel-header and then make links by myself?
[04:57] <svivian> imbrandon: done
[04:57] <CaBlGuY> there
[04:57] <barros_> imbrandon: /usr/include/asm and linux
[04:58] <imbrandon> svivian, now run kcontrol
[04:58] <imbrandon> if not i got one more thing to try ;)
[04:58] <imbrandon> lol
[04:58] <CaBlGuY> this is kinda nice lookin....
[04:58] <winbond> i need help with setting up raid0 , anyone raided?
[04:58] <CaBlGuY> got slave but not raided...
[04:58] <imbrandon> winbond, what exactly do you need help with, ;) we have to have specific questions ;)
[04:58] <svivian> imbrandon: ok, kcontrol came up, but I still got a bunch of errors:
[04:59] <svivian> X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 168
[04:59] <svivian>   Major opcode:  145
[04:59] <imbrandon> svivian, thats ok thats normal
[04:59] <svivian>   Minor opcode:  3
[04:59] <svivian>   Resource id:  0x0
[04:59] <imbrandon> yea
[04:59] <svivian> Failed to open device
[04:59] <imbrandon> thats fine
[04:59] <svivian> X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 168
[04:59] <svivian>   Major opcode:  145
[04:59] <svivian>   Minor opcode:  3
[04:59] <svivian>   Resource id:  0x0
[04:59] <svivian> Failed to open device
[04:59] <winbond> well , i need to know how to set it up since the grub doesnt install on raided partitions
[04:59] <imbrandon> thats just means you have extra stuff in xorg.conf
[04:59] <imbrandon> no biggie
[04:59] <imbrandon> ignor that stuff
[05:00] <imbrandon> winbond, yea what you would have to do is have /boot on a non raid device and install grub to that device
[05:00] <barros_> imbrandon: ok.. i'll recompile using the linux-source tree... it is just a case of make-kpkg --initrd kernel_image, right?
[05:00] <KuLover> Anyone use a Kubuntu compatible USB micraphone/headset that they could reccomend?
[05:00] <imbrandon> barros SHOULD be
[05:00] <barros_> imbrandon: ok.. i wanna keep away from troubles.. :D
[05:00] <imbrandon> KuLover, i have a logitec one ( not usb ) that works great
[05:01] <winbond> imbrandon: how can i do that if i only have 2 harddrives?
[05:01] <imbrandon> barros yea that would be the better solution
[05:01] <barros_> imbrandon: thanks!!
[05:01] <KuLover> imbrandon, do you have problems playing music or other sounds wile using it?
[05:01] <imbrandon> winbond, do software raid and dont use the whole first drive ;)
[05:01] <imbrandon> KuLover, nope
[05:02] <imbrandon> winbond, or stick a nother small ide drive laying arroundin there
[05:02] <james_xxx> streaming video really sucks still in linux
[05:02] <KuLover> imbrandon, have you ever heard of such a thing? it seems when im voicing with skype, i cant play music
[05:02] <KuLover> and vise versa
[05:02] <winbond> imbrandon: software raid on 1 drive ? sounds pointless, i want a raid0 with 2 harddrives
[05:02] <imbrandon> james_xxx, depends on hardware and codecs and such i love my streaming meadia server ;)
[05:02] <imbrandon> winbond, no software raid with 2 drives just ....
[05:03] <james_xxx> imbrandon: i guess i don't know what i have done wrong, but it does not work for me half of the time
[05:03] <imbrandon> ok winbond when you setup the partitions set /boot and swap to like 1 gig each on the first hdd then set the rest raid and the whole second drive raid
[05:03] <imbrandon> thten create a md0 raid device
[05:04] <imbrandon> james_xxx, what kinda of streams and where from and what codecs do you have installed , what bandwidth , a TON of stuff influnces vid streams
[05:05] <winbond> imbrandon: how can i manually install grub to /boot then grub installs only at the end of the whole setup without giving a choice where to install it
[05:05] <imbrandon> no no you install grub to the same device /boot is on the first hdd
[05:05] <svivian> imbrandon: Something is broken in the display manager. With kcontrol running from a terminal window, I can see the calls the application is making, and I keep seeing KeyError and "list index out of range"
[05:05] <imbrandon> as long as you put /boot on the first hdd you will be fine
[05:06] <james_xxx> imbrandon: i have cable internet, i have all the codecs from automatix, and i have problems with a lot of streams
[05:06] <imbrandon> svivian, ok exit out of everything and just do it the old fashion way IE "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" from konsole, forget kcontrol for now
[05:07] <Official_C> this is a stupid question but, in a strictly console Unix environment, how do you see graphical applications?
[05:07] <winbond> imbrandon: what if i only leave /boot as a non raided partition , will that work?
[05:08] <svivian> imbrandon: ok, do I need to bail from KDE completely, or can I run that from terminal, and what am I getting myself into?
[05:09] <imbrandon> run that from term is fine
[05:09] <CheeseBurgerMan> svivian: That command reconfigures X.
[05:09] <imbrandon> just restart kde when done
[05:09] <svivian> imbrandon: thx
[05:09] <imbrandon> winbond, yes should
[05:09] <svivian> CheeseBurgerMan: thx
[05:09] <Official_C> was that too stupid of a question to answer?
[05:09] <svivian> bee back soon
[05:10] <imbrandon> Official_C, sorry i missed the question
[05:10] <imbrandon> what was it ?
[05:11] <winbond> imbrandon: ok , thank you
[05:11] <imbrandon> np
[05:11] <imbrandon> Official_C, looks like you need to install an x server
[05:11] <imbrandon> is your anwser
[05:11] <imbrandon> hard to tell without more details
[05:13] <imbrandon> !ping
[05:13] <ubotu> pong
[05:13] <imbrandon> hrm quieted down fast ;)
[05:14] <imbrandon> soooo hows it going CheeseBurgerMan
[05:14] <CheeseBurgerMan> I'm fine. Just looking at cool Drupal modules.
[05:14] <CheeseBurgerMan> You?
[05:14] <imbrandon> nadda, got wrapped up helping like 30 ppl at one time yet again ;)
[05:14] <imbrandon> time to do some compiles now
[05:14] <imbrandon> ;)
[05:14] <CheeseBurgerMan> hehe, so I saw. ;)
[05:15] <imbrandon> heh my whole log is red from imbrandon everywhere
[05:15] <imbrandon> lol
[05:15] <imbrandon> brb
[05:23] <Hobbsee> !tell lnxKDE about packagingguide
[05:23] <Hobbsee> hey DaSkreech
[05:24] <DaSkreech> hiya
[05:26] <CaBlGuY> HOwdy Hobbsee  o/
[05:27] <CaBlGuY> jerwin:  u in Colorado by chance?
[05:27] <jerwin> a'yuh
[05:27] <jerwin> cablguy... must be don
[05:27] <jerwin> :-)
[05:27] <CaBlGuY> ummmm  is that a yes then ..  :)
[05:27] <jerwin> yes
[05:28] <CaBlGuY> cool, what can u tell me about it, I'm lookin to move there soon..
[05:28] <jerwin> Been here my whole life.  Not a bad place to live.
[05:28] <CaBlGuY> cool..  PM
[05:29] <LiteHedded> imbrandon still here?
[05:29] <Jack_Sparrow> I need to know his trick on getting the Kmenu to look like the XP Start..
[05:30] <CaBlGuY> Jack_Sparrow:  why on earth would u want that???  :-O
[05:30] <Jack_Sparrow> Just for fun..
[05:30] <CaBlGuY> Oh, to fake peeeps out huh??  :p
[05:30] <CheeseBurgerMan> Jack_Sparrow: KBFX
[05:30] <Jack_Sparrow> Yep.
[05:31] <Jack_Sparrow> So I need to search for KBFX?
[05:31] <imbrandon> Jack_Sparrow, mine ?
[05:31] <Jack_Sparrow> Yes
[05:31] <CheeseBurgerMan> Jack_Sparrow: http://kbfx.org ;)
[05:31] <Jack_Sparrow> Ahhhh
[05:31] <imbrandon> http://www.buntudot.org/people/~imbrandon/theme/royale/
[05:32] <imbrandon> CheeseBurgerMan, i have all the graphics and such on my page that he's looking for too ;)
[05:32] <imbrandon> plus kbfx and the kwin deco
[05:32] <imbrandon> ;)
[05:33] <winbond> what dir is the repo list in ?
[05:33] <Hobbsee> hey CaBlGuY
[05:33] <imbrandon>  /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:33] <imbrandon> heya Hobbsee
[05:33] <imbrandon> dident see ya sneek in
[05:33] <winbond> ok , ty , brainfart
[05:33] <imbrandon> ;)
[05:34] <Hobbsee> heya
[05:39] <Tofumanchu> anybody know if there is a place I can monitor Ubuntu checkins?  There's an ACPI fix that I just gotta have ...
[05:43] <Hobbsee> Tofumanchu: lists.ubuntu.com - the dapper changes one?
[05:44] <Hobbsee> or launchpad
[05:44] <Tofumanchu> well, I've got the launchpad bug #, but no way to associate that to a commit of some sort.
[05:44] <Hobbsee> what bug number?
[05:44] <Tofumanchu> #39315:
[05:48] <ChefWill> does anyone know if i install the kubuntu desktop package from ubuntu if itwill uninstall firefox/other programs?
[05:49] <DaSkreech> It wont
[05:49] <yylex> ChefWill: no.
[05:49] <ChefWill> im thinking about switching to KDE
[05:50] <Hobbsee> Tofumanchu: looking.  and it's nto easy to understand
[05:51] <Tofumanchu> thx!
[05:51] <RawSewage> Kubuntu has FF
[05:51] <ChefWill> i know that, i dint know if itd mess it up
[05:51] <RawSewage> I use Konqueror though
[05:52] <Lunar_Raven> kde > gnome
[05:52] <Lunar_Raven> :)
[05:52] <Hobbsee> RawSewage: not unless you insatll it.
[05:52] <Lunar_Raven> I've been using konqeuror too, pretty good browser minus a few issues
[05:52] <RawSewage> I didnt install FF
[05:53] <RawSewage> and it came with the installation
[05:53] <RawSewage> Im almost positive
[05:53] <Lunar_Raven> firefox comes with kubuntu
[05:53] <Lunar_Raven> i think..
[05:53] <Lunar_Raven> herm, maybe not actually
[05:53] <Tofumanchu> I had to apt-get ff
[05:53] <RawSewage> I didnt
[05:53] <Tofumanchu> with a fresh dapper install
[05:53] <Lunar_Raven> Yeah I remember, I used automatix for ff
[05:53] <RawSewage> so did I
[05:53] <Hobbsee> Tofumanchu: it looks like it's been put in...i think
[05:53] <Hobbsee> still trying to figure if it has or not
[05:54] <RawSewage> Automatix for FF is old school
[05:54] <Tofumanchu> hehe, I haven't seen the kernel-modules package in my update list...
[05:54] <Lunar_Raven> either way you can just download the package from the firefox website and untar it
[05:54] <RawSewage> why would you do that
[05:54] <Lunar_Raven> or apt-get of course
[05:54] <Lunar_Raven> if you're too lazy to bother with repos
[05:54] <Lunar_Raven> :D
[05:54] <imbrandon> sudo apt-get install firefox  will install <IP_ADDRESS> ;)
[05:55] <Tofumanchu> doit ChefWill
[05:55] <nixternal> do it ChefWill...it is a much better experience :)
[05:55] <Lunar_Raven> kde is my favorite desktop
[05:55] <Lunar_Raven> ever
[05:55] <imbrandon> kde ftw ;)
[05:55] <RawSewage> ok, Linus
[05:55] <ChefWill> i can do it thru commandline cant i?
[05:55] <RawSewage> Mark Shuttleworth uses Kubuntu
[05:55] <imbrandon> ChefWill, yes
[05:56] <Hobbsee> Tofumanchu: you could probably contact him - there are changes, but i cant see that exact bug in the changelog - but i'm not sure if they actually ptu them in
[05:56] <Hobbsee> if it's marked as fix released, itshould be there
[05:56] <ChefWill> its installing ;x
[05:56] <Lunar_Raven> ubuntu makes it simple to install kde
[05:56] <Kyral> RawSewage: I fail to see the point :P
[05:56] <ChefWill> 400MB, wow
[05:56] <ChefWill> there goes my hdd space
[05:56] <Lunar_Raven> haha
[05:56] <RawSewage> you fail to see the point that the founder of Ubuntu uses Kubuntu?
[05:56] <Kyral> Granted I use KDE but you make it seem like a big deal lol
[05:56] <ChefWill> :P
[05:56] <Lunar_Raven> its big
[05:56] <Tofumanchu> Great...  Thanks for all the help Hobbsee!
[05:56] <Kyral> RawSewage: I fail to see the place where I am supposed to give a damn
[05:56] <Lunar_Raven> I thought everyone used kde o.O
[05:56] <RawSewage> said the Gnome user
[05:57] <Kyral> *twitch*
[05:57] <RawSewage> lol
[05:57] <Kyral> Hobbsee: can I teach him something?
[05:57] <Kyral> Sysinfo for 'HyperDream': Linux 2.6.16-beyond running KDE 3.5.3, CPU: AMD Athlon XP 2100+ at 1734 MHz (3470 bogomips), HD: 245/432GB, RAM: 783/1011MB, 85 proc's, 6.23d up
[05:57] <Kyral> Qt: 3.3.6
[05:57] <Kyral> KDE: 3.5.3
[05:57] <Kyral> kde-config: 1.0
[05:57] <RawSewage> what
[05:57] <Kyral> Said the Arch User and package maintainer
[05:57] <Kyral> :D
[05:57] <RawSewage> oh
[05:57] <Lunar_Raven> I tried gnome awhile back
[05:57] <Lunar_Raven> it's too simplistic
[05:57] <Hobbsee> Kyral: nice, hehe
[05:57] <RawSewage> so youd know if FF comes with Kubuntu or not
[05:58] <Lunar_Raven> and there's like..no way to configure it
[05:58] <CaBlGuY> Lunar_Raven:  EXACTLY..
[05:58] <Hobbsee> RawSewage: yes, and it doesnt.
[05:58] <Lunar_Raven> not like kde
[05:58] <Kyral> I don't use Ubuntu any longer
[05:58] <CaBlGuY> :p
[05:58] <Lunar_Raven> kde has options for everything
[05:58] <Lunar_Raven> :P
[05:58] <Kyral> nor Kubuntu or Xubuntu for that matter
[05:58] <CaBlGuY> Simple is goooooddd
[05:58] <RawSewage> I couldve sworn I didnt install FF
[05:58] <CaBlGuY> :)
[05:58] <RawSewage> Im telling you
[05:58] <RawSewage> I use konqueror, so why do I have FF
[05:58] <Lunar_Raven> lol
[05:58] <RawSewage> Fresh install
[05:58] <Kyral> and again, I fail to see the point that I am supposed to care what sabdfl or Linus uses as a WM
[05:58] <Lunar_Raven> I like konqueror now
[05:58] <Lunar_Raven> I just wish gmail supported it better
[05:59] <RawSewage> I guess FF was a dependency of something else I installed
[05:59] <Kyral> On my laptop Fluxbox is the WM of choice
[05:59] <ChefWill> forward gmail to your pop account
[05:59] <ChefWill> aw man, evolution isnt going to work now is it
[05:59] <Lunar_Raven> good point
[05:59] <RawSewage> speaking of email, how many emails do I have to train before the spam filter catches even 1
[05:59] <Lunar_Raven> kmail is good
[05:59] <Kyral> on my Hurd machine...well I don't run X lol
[05:59] <Lunar_Raven> atleast from what i've seen
[05:59] <Lunar_Raven> it may lack compared to evolution though
[05:59] <ChefWill> i have all my mail setup thru evolution
[05:59] <Lunar_Raven> it should work in kde fine though
[06:00] <Lunar_Raven> gtk apps work fine in kde
[06:00] <ChefWill> it wont be integrated though
[06:00] <Lunar_Raven> integrate how?
[06:00] <Kyral> ChefWill: gtk2-engines-qt or whatnot
[06:00] <Lunar_Raven> yeah
[06:00] <ChefWill> ?
[06:00] <Lunar_Raven> it'll blend with qt nicely
[06:00] <Lunar_Raven> gtk-qt draws gtk apps I guess, so they look like qt
[06:00] <Lunar_Raven> I may have explained that crappy, but yeah..it makes gtk integrate nice
[06:01] <RawSewage> speaking of email, how many emails do I have to train before the spam filter catches even 1
[06:03] <ChefWill> maybe kbear will work better now that its running on its native desktop ;/
[06:05] <regeya> wow,  someone said 'my Hurd machine'
[06:05] <ChefWill> kubuntu-desktop finished installing, just restart or?
[06:09] <RawSewage> I should try xDE
[06:12] <Hawkwind> Hey, a fellow Houstonian running Kubuntu :)
[06:12] <kelly_> hey
[06:12] <Hawkwind> What part of Houston ?
[06:12] <kelly_> wow this is cool
[06:12] <kelly_> southwest
[06:13] <Hawkwind> Ah ok.  I'm in Katy myself
[06:13] <kelly_> sugarland sorry
[06:13] <Hawkwind> Ahhh, I used to live and work in Sugarland.  Opened up the Lowe's there actually
[06:14] <LiteHedded> i just upgraded and I can't start x
[06:14] <LiteHedded> er kde
[06:15] <kelly_> trying to get my sound card working
[06:15] <Mitja> The Win key is suddenly not recognized anymore? How can I fix this?
[06:15] <crimsun_> kelly_: hold old/new is the computer?
[06:15] <crimsun_> kelly_: s/hold/how/
[06:16] <kelly_> sony vaio 5 year old trial and error computer
[06:16] <crimsun_> kelly_: cpu?
[06:16] <kelly_> p4
[06:16] <crimsun_> that's five years old? sheesh, I must be ancient.
[06:16] <Hawkwind> LOL crimsun_
[06:16] <Hawkwind> crimsun_: I was sitting here thinking the same thing
[06:17] <crimsun_> anyhow, pastebin ``lspci -v && lspci -nv && cat /proc/asound/cards && amixer''
[06:17] <Hawkwind> I just didn't want to be the first to admit I was suddenly feeling really really old
[06:17] <crimsun_> kelly_: I presume you know about pastebin?
[06:17] <LiteHedded> can anyone help me get into kde?
[06:17] <LiteHedded> these big terminal characters are scaring me
[06:18] <ChefWill> i just installed kubuntu-desktop and restarted its still in gnome ;/
[06:18] <ChefWill> all the kde apps are there but no intefface
[06:18] <ChefWill> what am i missing?
[06:19] <francf> CherWill: in the display manager must be an option to chose GNOME or KDE
[06:19] <RawSewage> I think you have to change bootup options
[06:19] <francf> By default use the last option, in your case Gnome
[06:20] <ChefWill> where though?
[06:20] <RawSewage> in kcontrol
[06:20] <RawSewage> system admin- login control
[06:20] <RawSewage> no, maybe not
[06:21] <francf> CherWill: when you login on the computer, exist an option to select the DE
[06:21] <ChefWill> nope
[06:21] <ChefWill> not that i saw
[06:22] <francf> in Session, i think...
[06:22] <crimsun_> well, I guess kelly_ really didn't want assistance.
[06:22] <ChefWill> im in kcontrol havent found an option to choose kde/gnome
[06:23] <RawSewage> that was rude
[06:23] <francf> nop, is not in kcontrol. Just Logout. Look at "Session" and choose KDE
[06:23] <ChefWill> alright let me look
[06:24] <Tomze> purge gdm -> install kdm
[06:25] <Mitja> Where can a key modifier be added?
[06:25] <francf> Mitja:key modifier? did u mean for multimedia keys?
[06:26] <ChefWill> hrm works now
[06:26] <ChefWill> thanks whoever told me
[06:26] <Mitja> francf, I mean alt, ctrl, win...
[06:26] <francf> no problem, man.
[06:26] <Tomze> ChefWill: purge gdm -> install kdm
[06:26] <ChefWill> ?
[06:28] <francf> Mitja: Look at "System Preferences->Region and accesabiltiy.
[06:29] <Tomze> ChefWill: gdm = gnome display manager works bad with kde... and the same for kdm if you use gnome
[06:29] <Mitja> francf, already did, what specifically?
[06:29] <ChefWill> i got it working
[06:29] <ChefWill> is there no kde frontend for network-manager?
[06:29] <Tomze> ChefWill: the try to shut down your pc ;)
[06:29] <francf> Mitja: In the second option
[06:29] <ChefWill> Tomze: i already got it working
[06:30] <francf> Cheffwill: yep, knetwormanager
[06:30] <Tomze> so you say.. he
[06:30] <Mitja> francf, Country Region / Language?
[06:30] <ChefWill> aggh why do they have to name it like that
[06:30] <francf> sorry, Knetworkmanager
[06:30] <ChefWill> they name everytihng else network-manager
[06:30] <ChefWill> thats why i couldnt find it
[06:31] <francf> Mitja: In Shortcuts... (i think, my distro is in spanish, so i'm guess the translation)
[06:31] <Mitja> Yes, looking right now
[06:33] <francf> CheffWill:  :)   In general, the KDE applications start with a "K".
[06:42] <RawSewage> Kool
[06:45] <ChefWill> so what is the most powerful mail app for kde?
[06:45] <ChefWill> i use to use evolution..
[06:45] <Hobbsee> kmail, i tend to use thunderbird
[06:46] <ChefWill> hrm, will kmail import my evolution stuff
[06:46] <Hobbsee> i think so
[06:46] <kkathman> if you want pure kde - Kmail/kontact
[06:46] <Hobbsee> it imported thunderbird stuff
[06:46] <ChefWill> hrm
[06:47] <kkathman> ChefWill:  probably kontact will be more analagous to evolution...as its a suite...thunderbird is just mail..but its a decent client
[06:48] <francf> Chefwill: yes and no. You can import, but u need do by hand.
[06:48] <kkathman> so if you want all the other things like newsfeeds, contacts, address book (like evolution), then kontact will seem more familiar
[06:49] <ChefWill> yea imma just redo it
[06:49] <ChefWill> i cant find a way to import
[06:52] <LiteHedded> just upgraded how do I install ati again?
[06:52] <kkathman> ChefWill:  Kontact/Kmail will import evolution files I think
[06:52] <LiteHedded> !ati
[06:52] <ubotu> well, ati is http://doc.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/hardware.html#installatidriver or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI ... the radeon 9200 and below are supported by the open-source drivers
[06:52] <ChefWill> i dont see where kkathman, ive looked
[06:52] <kkathman> ChefWill:  Under Kontact, File-Import Messages
[06:53] <ChefWill> well, its not hte messages, its more the accounts
[06:53] <kkathman> well the accounts are easy to setup
[06:53] <kkathman> its you mail you want I think
[06:53] <kkathman> the copy I have imports v1 and v2 of evolution
[06:54] <Mitja> Can somebody help me please? Some of the keys suddenly stopped working. Locale layout setting is not recognized at all. It all worked after installation. Now I don't know what I did to make it stop working. Any clues?
[06:54] <ChefWill> yea i got mail
[06:54] <ChefWill> i just had like 10 accounts in evo :P
[06:54] <RawSewage> speaking of email, how many emails do I have to train before the spam filter catches even 1
[06:55] <ChefWill> its a pain in the butt to do all of em
[06:55] <kkathman> RawSewage: well, are you using the bogofilter?
[06:55] <RawSewage> yes
[06:55] <francf> ups, my coffee is over.
[06:55] <RawSewage> right-click messages:  apply filter...  Filter Classify as Spam
[06:55] <RawSewage> right?
[06:56] <kkathman> RawSewage:  you are using kmail?
[06:56] <RawSewage> yes
[06:56] <kkathman> so I'd set your filters first
[06:56] <kkathman> try and catch a bunch
[06:56] <kkathman> as it gets more, it will learn
[06:56] <RawSewage> Im using  Filter Classify as Spam
[06:57] <kkathman> that helps too
[06:57] <RawSewage> if  Filter Classify as Spam  Bogofilter?
[06:57] <Mitja> Is there a way to reinstall the keyboard part of KDE?
[06:57] <RawSewage> I did the wizard, and Bogofilter was the only one listed
[06:58] <kkathman> RawSewage:  yep you can get a few others, but I've found Bogo does a decent job
[06:58] <RawSewage> ok
[06:58] <RawSewage> I guess it takes a long time
[06:58] <kkathman> it takes a while
[06:58] <RawSewage> I get a lot of spam though
[06:58] <kkathman> but, again...define your own Filters also, and that will help too
[06:59] <RawSewage> I dont want to
[06:59] <kkathman> ok
[06:59] <RawSewage> I want to see what Bogofilter does by itself
[06:59] <LiteHedded> ati install didn't work
[06:59] <RawSewage> an AI experiment
[06:59] <LiteHedded> can someone help?
[07:02] <DaSkreech> Mitja: I'd love to help
[07:03] <Mitja> DaSkreech, sweet dreams
[07:03] <DaSkreech> If You are here tomorrow I'll try and be of assistance
[07:03] <Mitja> I'll just reinstall a few things
[07:03] <kkathman> cya DaSkreech :)
[07:03] <DaSkreech> Night all :)
[07:04] <sean> I've recently run into a problem of my computer randomly rebooting, and I'd like to try to track down the problem (likely hardware related)
[07:05] <sean> myself
[07:05] <Mitja> DaSkreech, night
[07:05] <sean> Does anyone know of what log files too look at that may help me?
[07:05] <DaSkreech> Sean: dmesg :)
[07:08] <LiteHedded> ati help anyone?
[07:10] <sean> LiteHedded Possibly, with what?
[07:10] <sean> wait, offering or asking?
[07:11] <LiteHedded> upgraded to dapper
[07:12] <LiteHedded> installed kubuntu-desktop
[07:12] <LiteHedded> installed ati and it doesn't work
[07:12] <RawSewage> can you do a fresh install
[07:14] <LiteHedded> asking sean :)
[07:14] <Rede> is there a way I can devote more system resources to a process? ie. i have a high quality video that occaisonally stutters as im trying to watch it and i'd like to devote more resources to kaffeine...
[07:14] <DShepherd> hi DaSkreech, Riddell and imbrandon from freenode :-D
[07:15] <DaSkreech> haha! :)
[07:15] <DaSkreech> lnxKDE: Get him!!
[07:15] <imbrandon> lol
[07:15] <DShepherd> get who... let me at him
[07:16] <LiteHedded> imbrandon too busy to help one more time? :P
[07:16] <LiteHedded> ati issues this time
[07:16] <DaSkreech> Well let me go and kick the dogs into their bed then I can go to mine
[07:17] <yoshu> can anyone suggest a good (secure) mail server? - I'm looking at exim and sendmail right now
[07:18] <lnxKDE> DShepherd what me to say hi to you too?
[07:18] <lnxKDE> want*
[07:18] <romeo5k|afk> hello all
[07:18] <DShepherd> lnxKDE: ok..
[07:18] <lnxKDE> ok
[07:18] <lnxKDE> lol
[07:19] <ChefWill> anyone know how to disable the "Description" section after messages in kmail?
[07:19] <DShepherd> DShepherd: I need to start saying hi more often. It seems that it can get you places
[07:19] <Romeo5k> i need a lil help from someone if possible...
[07:19] <Romeo5k> im kinda of a new guy to linux .,.. i am a windows guy
[07:20] <Romeo5k> and wanna try linux.. so i got Kubuntu...
[07:20] <Romeo5k> and installed it on my HDD.. but me and a friend are facing a prob.. it wont let me conenct to the internet. because i dont think it can find my driver
[07:21] <ChefWill> wifi Romeo5k?
[07:21] <Romeo5k> and it wont let me install the driver either.. it gave us an error while trying to install the driver.. .. No thru LAN
[07:21] <LiteHedded> i've come too far for ati to beat me now@
[07:21] <Romeo5k> straight wire...
[07:22] <Romeo5k> My Router lan light is not coming on.. so im having a feeling its not reading it... it did that with windows.. its an onboard
[07:22] <Romeo5k> and i have the linus driver for it..
[07:22] <Romeo5k> I have the
[07:22] <Romeo5k> Mainboard: A8N-VM CSM
[07:22] <Romeo5k> thats what i have... and... am i allowed to paste the error in here
[07:23] <kkathman> !paste
[07:23] <ubotu> Please do not flood the channel http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ for pasting long texts it does not disrupt the channel. [webboard for Ubuntu: http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=1269 : not an offical package] .
[07:23] <LiteHedded> !ati
[07:23] <ubotu> I heard ati is http://doc.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/hardware.html#installatidriver or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI ... the radeon 9200 and below are supported by the open-source drivers
[07:24] <Romeo5k> also.. this is what my friend said...
[07:24] <Romeo5k> install the correct kernel source
[07:24] <Romeo5k> he said he tried but couldnt...
[07:25] <Romeo5k> he said maybe its different on my 64 bit... cause he didnt have to on his 32bit. since mine is a 100/1000
[07:26] <Romeo5k> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15633
[07:26] <Romeo5k> thats the error i was getting
[07:27] <kkathman> redhat?
[07:27] <LiteHedded> anyone care to help me with ati yet?
[07:27] <Romeo5k> no ... Kubuntu
[07:28] <Hobbsee> !ati
[07:28] <ubotu> well, ati is http://doc.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/hardware.html#installatidriver or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI ... the radeon 9200 and below are supported by the open-source drivers
[07:28] <noaXess> how to extract a windows exe file?..
[07:28] <LiteHedded> a bit more help than that is needed Hobbsee :)
[07:28] <noaXess> it is a windows selfextracting exe file
[07:29] <kkathman> but thats all there is Hobbsee :)
[07:29] <kkathman> lol
[07:29] <Romeo5k> kkathman why u ask about redhat??
[07:30] <kkathman> Romeo5k:  cuz your error message references it
[07:30] <Hobbsee> kkathman: i have an intel integrated card, so never have to mess with any of it :P
[07:30] <Romeo5k> kkathman but i dont know why...
[07:30] <kkathman> Hobbsee:  you never were like all the other girls
[07:30] <noaXess> !exe
[07:30] <ubotu> My cat's name is Mittens! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, noaXess
[07:30] <kkathman> Romeo5k:  uhm  I dont either
[07:30] <Hobbsee> kkathman: of course - why would i be here, if i was
[07:31] <kkathman> well ya.. uhmm I guess
[07:31] <Romeo5k> kkathman ok ... can u tell me how to "install the correct kernel source"?
[07:32] <kkathman> Romeo5k:  why do you want another kernel source?
[07:32] <Hobbsee> :P
[07:32] <Romeo5k> kkathman I tried to do that the other day and couldn't get the correct kernel source
[07:33] <Romeo5k> kkathman and i think thats whats causing the error
[07:33] <kkathman> Romeo5k:  try the wiki, and start here:  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelSourceDriver?highlight=%28source%29%7C%28kernel%29
[07:34] <RawSewage> oh well, so much for Python
[07:34] <kkathman> Romeo5k:  are you trying to compile your own kernel for kubuntu?
[07:34] <kkathman> Romeo5k:  another good launching point:  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelHowTos?highlight=%28kernel%29
[07:35] <Romeo5k> kkathman what does that mean.. remember im a noob... im just trying to install a driver for the network catd
[07:35] <Romeo5k> kkathman its a NVIDIA
[07:35] <kkathman> lol
[07:35] <kkathman> well thats not good news actually
[07:35] <Romeo5k> but the cd i have has linux drivers
[07:35] <kkathman> let me save you ALOT of headaches
[07:36] <Romeo5k> so i dont have to use .exe
[07:36] <kkathman> go get a regular $8 NIC card that doesnt need a driver :)
[07:36] <kkathman> hehe
[07:36] <kkathman> NVDIA network cards are notorious for not working well...even with their drivers in linux
[07:37] <Romeo5k> oh yea???
[07:37] <kkathman> yah
[07:37] <Romeo5k> dam..
[07:37] <kkathman> I mean the trouble you'll go to....better to just get a cheap NIC card :)
[07:37] <Romeo5k> well i cant get mad...
[07:37] <Romeo5k> this means i need to buy another 100/1000 card
[07:37] <kkathman> you are about the 10th person that has had this problem with NVIDIA NIC cards
[07:37] <kkathman> Romeo5k:  yah but they are really cheap
[07:38] <kkathman> I saw a 3Com for like $5 the other day
[07:38] <kkathman> you plug it in...it works
[07:40] <Romeo5k> dangit
[07:40] <Romeo5k> hold
[07:40] <Romeo5k> ok
[07:42] <Romeo5k> ChefWill u stay in houston?
[07:42] <ChefWill> yea
[07:42] <Romeo5k> ChefWill nicce me too
[07:42] <ChefWill> cool, what part
[07:42] <Romeo5k> galleria area
[07:42] <ChefWill> ah
[07:42] <Romeo5k> u?
[07:42] <ChefWill> I'm in westgate/katy area
[07:43] <Romeo5k> nice..not too far, about 30 mins without traffic
[07:43] <Romeo5k> :)
[07:43] <ChefWill> approximately
[07:43] <ChefWill> i drive past it everyday to class
[07:44] <Romeo5k> where u go to sxhool?
[07:44] <ChefWill> HCC Culinary
[07:44] <Romeo5k> hahaah
[07:44] <ChefWill> at Main/Elgin
[07:44] <Romeo5k> i worj there
[07:44] <Romeo5k> work***
[07:44] <ChefWill> where
[07:44] <Romeo5k> 11th flr
[07:45] <ChefWill> cool
[07:45] <Romeo5k> sexretary to associate Vice chancellor
[07:45] <ChefWill> ill be there in 6 hours :S
[07:45] <Romeo5k> dam
[07:45] <Romeo5k> no sleep
[07:45] <ChefWill> not much
[07:46] <Romeo5k> i prolly seen u there b4 then
[07:46] <ChefWill> probably
[07:46] <Romeo5k> i eat there sometimes
[07:46] <Romeo5k> when i can afford it :(
[07:46] <Romeo5k> yall too ruch for me
[07:46] <Romeo5k> rich**
[07:46] <ChefWill> idk, i get it free
[07:47] <Romeo5k> lol
[07:47] <Romeo5k> dats a bet
[07:49] <Romeo5k> kkathman am i ok using the 64 bit Kubuntu? or should i have settled for the 32 bit??
[07:50] <Romeo5k> kkathman cause i heard they are kinda different
[07:50] <kkathman> well, there are always going to be little buggies in the 64bit version, but I'd use it if I had the processor
[07:50] <kkathman> nalioth or Hobbsee know much more about the 64-bit kubuntu
[07:50] <Romeo5k> oh yeah?
[07:50] <Romeo5k> hmmm
[07:51] <Romeo5k> lol
[07:51] <Romeo5k> i wont bug u
[07:52] <sean> I've personally had more trouble using 32bit versions on my 64bit processor than with the 64 bit verstion
[07:53] <sean> only version doesn't have a t
[07:53] <sean> but if it did, y'know, it'd be cooler
[07:54] <Romeo5k> anything is better than what im using right now
[07:54] <sean> aside from the lack of flash, and the extra work with wine (which I never really use) I've had no troubles
[07:54] <sean> well, I mean, aside from the recent troubles with random restarts, but I don't think that's a 64-bit sympton
[07:55] <sean> ...cas...
[07:55] <Romeo5k> ive tried 3 OS within the past week... i havnt had to restart yet...
[07:55] <Romeo5k> kkathman the bad thing is... the LAN was werking yesterday
[07:55] <Romeo5k> untill i updatd my bios
[07:56] <sean> umm, don't worry, it's not a "have to" so much as a does without permission.  But again, probably not OS related
[07:56] <Romeo5k> then i lost me LAN
[07:56] <kkathman> Romeo5k:  I know
[07:56] <kkathman> that seems to be a very consistent complaint with that card
[07:57] <Romeo5k> i might take it to the IT ppl at my job and see what they can do..
[07:57] <Romeo5k> see if they know anything... abot Kubuntu that is.
[07:58] <kkathman> frb  kewl
[07:59] <kkathman> sry wrong channel :)
[08:16] <Mitja> Does anyone have any experience with Opera? Flash plugins work, but keep getting "de-installed". So whenever I start Opera I have to define them again. Any clues?
[08:17] <crimsun_> opera 9 beta 2 works fine here
[08:17] <defrysk> here too
[08:17] <defrysk> never use it tho ;p
[08:18] <Mitja> I use 9 beta 2 too
[08:18] <defrysk> Mitja, flash should work fine then
[08:18] <Mitja> defrysk, it does. Every time  I redefine the paths.
[08:18] <defrysk> Mitja, sorry
[08:18] <defrysk> honestly have no solution
[08:19] <defrysk> Mitja, did you install the flash package of ubuntu ?
[08:20] <Mitja> defrysk, yes, and it works in Konqueror
[08:20] <darkfusion> hello
[08:20] <defrysk> Mitja, you could try the flash package of macromedia and install for opera usage only
[08:20] <darkfusion> anybody here wanna help me try and get samba working ? I cant seem to view the drive in windows
[08:20] <defrysk> like a local install or something
[08:22] <defrysk> http://www.linux.com/ gives an empty page in konqueror anyone else too ?
[08:23] <sean> defrysk - ditto
[08:23] <defrysk> anyone know why or is it a feature ?
[08:23] <sean> wait, strike that, just didn't wait long enough
[08:24] <sean> Although I'm running konqueror on ubuntu, and not kubuntu at the moment
[08:24] <sean> odd...
[08:25] <sean> * thinks that's strange
[08:25] <sean> wait, that's not how that works...
[08:25] <sean> I never did learn how to use IRC
[08:26] <bimberi> sean: "/me thinks that's strange"  :)
[08:27] <sean> thank you
[08:27] <bimberi> :)
[08:27] <bimberi> np
[08:27] <defrysk> no I have vision
[08:27] <defrysk> weird
[08:27] <PyroMithrandir> defrysk, www.linux.com works fine in konqueror for me
[08:27] <sean> as, adis
[08:27] <defrysk> does not render correctly here
[08:28] <defrysk> must be a 3.5.3 bug
[08:28] <PyroMithrandir> is your konq up to date?
[08:28] <PyroMithrandir> nah, I'm on that
[08:29] <defrysk> I see nuthing in konq in linux.com , page up and back I see a poorly rendered page of linux.com :/
[08:30] <PyroMithrandir> :/ I don't know what it is
[08:30] <weedar> Is there a FIPS-like program that runs under linux or that possibly even has a GUI for splitting partitions? :)
[08:30] <PyroMithrandir> FIPS?
[08:32] <weedar> PyroMithrandir: My father has a big VFAT partition, he wants to split off the end of the partition to create a new one while keeping the first part of the partition in tact without having to format it :)
[08:32] <PyroMithrandir> I think gparted can resize partitions
[08:32] <PyroMithrandir> I've never used it... I'm an fdisk man myself
[08:34] <defrysk> weedar, gparted is your best bet
[08:35] <weedar> Thanks for the thumbs-up defrysk and PyroMithrandir - I'll pass the message along :)
[08:37] <PyroMithrandir> where's there a Mithrandir?
[08:37] <PyroMithrandir> It's not me
[08:37] <insanekane> weedar: you might want to use partition magic though ... much more reliable
[08:38] <weedar> insanekane: you mean the windows program partition magic? I hope not, last time I used that it thoroughly trashed my hard-drive :/
[08:39] <insanekane> weedar: there is a windows live cd/rescue CD somewhere ... it uses PM and it works very well
[08:39] <insanekane> weedar: anyway, when you run the kubuntu installer (i.e., alternate CD atleast), the partitioning screen allows you to resize ... it works so far for FAT32 for me ... havent tried NTFS
[08:41] <thelostbyte_> How to install gstream for amarok ?
[08:41] <weedar> Oh its VFAT/FAT32 so it should be ok insanekane :)
[08:42] <th0m4s> Installing Kubuntu 6.06 DVD onto a Sony Vaio VGN-T250P right now, is there a way to have it install make during install or will I have to wait until it's fully loaded for that?
[08:43] <th0m4s> As well, last time I could only get 1024x768, 1024x600, and 800x600, but no 1280x768 despite editing the correct files
[08:45] <defrysk> thelostbyte_, amarok uses the xine engine
[08:45] <defrysk> thelostbyte_, not gstreamer
[08:46] <defrysk> thelostbyte_, that is if you want mp3 support
[08:47] <thelostbyte_> defrysk, huh ? amarok is an mp3 player, thats how i know it :S
[08:48] <defrysk> thelostbyte_, amarok is an mp3 player if it has that support
[08:48] <defrysk> thelostbyte_, on dapper ?
[08:49] <thelostbyte_> defrysk, ok ! i want mp3 support..
[08:49] <insanekane> th0m4s: once you are finished installing ... just do "sudo apt-get install build-essential" ... that should install pretty much all you need
[08:49] <weedar> th0m4s: after install you might want to try sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg to setup resolutions
[08:49] <PyroMithrandir> !mp3
[08:49] <ubotu> I guess mp3 is a patented format; to enable mp3 capability see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[08:50] <thelostbyte_> i am there and i installed gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly
[08:51] <defrysk> thelostbyte_, sudo apt-get install amarok-engines
[08:51] <thelostbyte_> done that..
[08:51] <PyroMithrandir> try using the xine engine instead
[08:51] <thelostbyte_> but no gstream in enigines..
[08:51] <defrysk> thelostbyte_, u have to set it to xine
[08:51] <thelostbyte_> PyroMithrandir, xine gives me no sound //
[08:52] <PyroMithrandir> weird
[08:52] <PyroMithrandir> maybe that's a common problem?
[08:52] <PyroMithrandir> !xine
[08:52] <ubotu> My cat's name is Mittens! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, PyroMithrandir
[08:52] <PyroMithrandir> I don't know. I'm tired. I'm calling it a night
[08:52] <defrysk> thelostbyte_, read this first : https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats#head-f06eb8f6a8cbb1ed38dd019b7dde9f0f7bb26160
[08:52] <TheTourist> Hey all, Im having a strange problem with Adept. Basically it keeps saying its already open. Even when I restart. So yeah it only opens in read only mode.
[08:53] <defrysk> thelostbyte_, it tell you to also install libarts1-xine.
[08:53] <PyroMithrandir> TheTourist, you tried running a killall adept to make sure it isn't running
[08:53] <defrysk> thelostbyte_, sudo apt-get install libarts1-xine.
[08:53] <TheTourist> I've checked and cant find the process open either
[08:54] <defrysk> thelostbyte_, sudo apt-get install libxine-extracodecs
[08:54] <defrysk> thelostbyte_, those two packages should do the trick ;)
[08:54] <PyroMithrandir> TheTourist, you're running it with root privs right? with kdesu?
[08:54] <Romeo5k> gn ppl
[08:54] <TheTourist> yep
[08:54] <thelostbyte_> ok.. doing it.
[08:54] <TheTourist> thats right, the window comes up and i enter my root pword
[08:55] <TheTourist> apt  is working from the command line tho and its not locked
[08:55] <PyroMithrandir> arg, you stole my next question right out from under me, TheTourist
[08:55] <defrysk> TheTourist, root pw in kdesu is your username pw
[08:56] <TheTourist> I just rememberd tho that I did have the problem with Java in adept
[08:56] <defrysk> so make sure to use the correct pw TheTourist
[08:56] <TheTourist> maybe something is corrupted?
[08:56] <TheTourist> ok Ill give it a go
[08:56] <thelostbyte_> defrysk, you mean i can play video too in amarok  ?
[08:56] <defrysk> th0m4s, video ?
[08:56] <PyroMithrandir> you can play video with xine
[08:56] <defrysk> thelostbyte_, I mean ?
[08:57] <defrysk> xine mplayer etc
[08:57] <defrysk> xine soundengine is used thelostbyte_
[08:57] <PyroMithrandir> well, yeah, but xine is the engine that amarok uses, so I guess that's where the confusion comes in
[08:57] <defrysk> not the video stuff
[08:57] <thelostbyte_> defrysk, cause my default there is no mp3 support..so xine supports video too.. thats why..
[08:57] <PyroMithrandir> amarok is just audio, though
[08:57] <defrysk> thelostbyte_, nope no video
[08:58] <thelostbyte_> ok
[08:58] <PyroMithrandir> xine will do video, but amarok will be like "pshaw, naw"
[08:58] <thelostbyte_> defrysk, Thanks, it works now :)
[08:58] <defrysk> thelostbyte_, :)
[08:59] <PyroMithrandir> alright, guys, time for me to actually go to bed this time ;)
[08:59] <defrysk> later all
[08:59] <PyroMithrandir> wow, must not be 3 am there ;)
[09:02] <TheTourist> okay, I ended up running dpkg --configure -a and now it starts up properly
[09:03] <TheTourist> Its all workin now tho, to thanks!!
[09:04] <TheTourist> *so thanks :)
[09:10] <apathy```> Im having a bit of trouble installing Kubuntu, once the cd boots up, and try to install through the menu, i get the error:
[09:11] <apathy```> Error #8254 Timer not connected to IO-APIC
[09:11] <[fadli_klate] > i ve install dapper 6.06 rc2. what else to upgrade to -lts- release other than 'apt-get upgrade"
[09:11] <apathy```> ive tried boot commands like noapic acpi=off
[09:11] <apathy```> and it just boots into windows rather than starting to install
[09:11] <apathy```> oh yea It says uncompressing first then the error
[09:18] <th0m4s> linux is magic
[09:19] <th0m4s> it somehow guessed my WEP key because i never gave it it
[09:19] <klerfayt> for some odd reason kubuntu installed lilo instead of grub http://img145.imageshack.us/img145/609/snapshot13pq.png
[09:19] <th0m4s> that or it's stealing my neighbors internet
[09:19] <lnxKDE> http://lnxkde.blogspot.com/
[09:19] <th0m4s> haha yep it is my neighbors internet
[09:22] <[fadli_klate] > weird, my lilo in kubuntu
[09:22] <TheHighChild> hey guys, if I wanted to make a perfect ISO image, what app would you suggest?
[09:22] <[fadli_klate] > k3b?
[09:22] <TheHighChild> I'll give it a whirl, thanks
[09:22] <[fadli_klate] > what u`ll use the iso for?
[09:23] <TheHighChild> Don't ask don't tell ;P
[09:23] <TheHighChild> lol, it'll be a bootable disk
[09:23] <noiesmo> throw at peoples :
[09:23] <noiesmo> 0
[09:24] <TheHighChild> You guys know any methods of slipstreaming in Linux?
[09:25] <exceswater> hi all
[09:25] <[fadli_klate] > hi
[09:26] <exceswater> i have a question because i am new to kubuntu
[09:26] <exceswater> :d
[09:26] <exceswater> i typed this in konsole
[09:26] <exceswater> sudo apt-get install planetpenguin-racer flightgear bzflag
[09:26] <exceswater> to install some games...
[09:26] <exceswater> planet penguin racer
[09:26] <exceswater> flightgear
[09:26] <exceswater> and bzflag
[09:26] <exceswater> and it seems like they installed
[09:27] <exceswater> but i cannot find them
[09:27] <exceswater> why ?
[09:28] <th0m4s> because
[09:28] <th0m4s> linux does not love me
[09:28] <[fadli_klate] > cant find it in Kmenu?
[09:28] <[fadli_klate] > may be just type in the console >> bzflag
[09:28] <klerfayt> system settings>system services does not ask for password then I click on "admin mode"
[09:29] <JairunCaloth> I can't use apt
[09:29] <th0m4s> http://imagesocket.com/images/snapshot10c4.png
[09:30] <th0m4s> as you can tell by the resolution of that image, i am most definately not seeing the resolution that i am telling it i can do
[09:30] <th0m4s> of coures by default it will let me do 1024x768 when i want 1280x768
[09:30] <JairunCaloth> http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/706033
[09:31] <JairunCaloth> It says something else is using it, but I don't know what would be
[09:31] <noiesmo> JairunCaloth, think the automatic updater is using it posibly
[09:32] <chavo> JairunCaloth, try removing the lock file
[09:32] <JairunCaloth> the auto update isn't currenty running
[09:32] <JairunCaloth> at least not as far as I can tell
[09:33] <noiesmo> JairunCaloth, try type in terminal ps ax | grep apt
[09:33] <JairunCaloth> ahhh I see
[09:33] <JairunCaloth> what's the command to end apt
[09:34] <noiesmo> JairunCaloth, you could just do kill xxxx replace xxxx with pid number of running apt process
[09:34] <JairunCaloth> awsome
[09:36] <mekgp> can anyone help with a reading/copying from a NTFS formatted drive question?
[09:36] <JairunCaloth> that was easy enough :) thanks for the help
[09:36] <TheHighChild> th0m4s: Try the arcade section of games from the kmenu. If that doesn't work, try 'ppracer' in the terminal
[09:37] <[fadli_klate] > are u sure u can just kill apt just like that?
[09:37] <JairunCaloth> well it was from when I started an apt earlier...
[09:37] <[fadli_klate] > if u do that to rpm, it kill its database
[09:37] <TheHighChild> th0m4s: You can always add it to the kmenu if you don't have it. Right click and edit item. You can create a new addition
[09:38] <noiesmo> [fadli_klate] , dont worry there's no suger
[09:39] <RawSewage> tj9991, did you try the new Google Earth for Linux yet
[09:39] <tj9991> no
[09:39] <noiesmo> [fadli_klate] , apt is merely downloading the packages and then dpkg handles the install so no damage
[09:39] <tj9991> it would probably kill my computer
[09:39] <JairunCaloth> google earth is out for linux now!!!!
[09:39] <RawSewage> yeah
[09:39] <RawSewage> tons more images
[09:39] <RawSewage> higher resolution
[09:39] <JairunCaloth> That is soooo friken sweet
[09:39] <RawSewage> came out today
[09:39] <mekgp> really? googEarth is out?? coooollL!
[09:40] <RawSewage> the new version
[09:40] <JairunCaloth> I used google earth to pick out my camping spot last year.
[09:40] <RawSewage> Linux is the first option too
[09:40] <[fadli_klate] > is it available thru apt?
[09:40] <RawSewage> before Windows
[09:40] <RawSewage> I doubt it
[09:40] <RawSewage> http://earth.google.com
[09:41] <mekgp> thats the only place for it to be Raw...BEFORE windoze! ;)
[09:41] <RawSewage> just make the .bin exectutable and run it
[09:42] <RawSewage> oh
[09:42] <RawSewage> I bet Linux was selected because Im running Linux
[09:42] <TheHighChild> in k3b, should I make a 'normal copy' or a 'clone copy'? Any idea?
[09:43] <mekgp> can anyone help with a reading/copying from a NTFS formatted drive question?
[09:43] <JairunCaloth> I know it's possible mekgp
[09:43] <TheHighChild> !ntfs
[09:43] <ubotu> to automatically mount your NTFS partition: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions there is no write support for ntfs that is safe. <!winfstab>
[09:43] <JairunCaloth> well damn
[09:44] <mekgp> i know, flaky writing support...just trying to copy files off of a drive
[09:44] <mekgp> is there an issue with naming-conventions when linux tries to read/copy windoze stuff??
[09:45] <mekgp> like...spaces in the file name?  tooooo many characters???
[09:45] <exceswater> !nvidia
[09:45] <ubotu> nvidia is, like, totally, Help about installing the nVidia drivers on Ubuntu can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[09:45] <mekgp> i can copy some files without problem...others, it raises a stink about access
[09:46] <Ademan> i'm trying to access my vsftpd server through WAN, but i can't seem to get it to work, my server is behind 2 routers, so in both routers i opened TCP 20, 21 and 44000 - 44128 for pasv,  and vsftp is aware of the 44000-44128 limitation,  yet I can't connect through wan, what might be up?
[09:46] <th0m4s> TheHighChild: i don't need help with games i need RESOLUTION
[09:47] <exceswater> i have a nvidia geforce 4 mx 440
[09:47] <exceswater> and it seems i don;t have drivers for it installed in kubuntu
[09:47] <JairunCaloth> Mekgp: I havn't run into any problems getting files off of the NTFS drive, however it does seem like I allways have to change the permissions once I get them over to do anything with them.
[09:48] <JairunCaloth> but I"m merly a n00b, so take anythign I say with a grain of salt
[09:49] <exceswater> !nvidia kubuntu
[09:49] <ubotu> Syntax error in line 1. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, exceswater
[09:49] <TheHighChild> ok, one sec th0m4s
[09:49] <mekgp> its odd JairunCaloth...it will copy some off the NTFS...others it wont
[09:50] <mekgp> the only corralation i see is file name character length and spaces...the longer they get, the less luck I have copying!
[09:51] <JairunCaloth> Odd, I never ran into any problems. However I didn't copy a whole lot of files either, and they were mostly personal files too.
[09:51] <JairunCaloth> Wish I could help you more... but as I said, I'm a noob
[09:53] <JairunCaloth> anywho, back to installing my graphics drivers
[09:53] <th0m4s> i don't know what i'm doing re: graphics
[09:53] <bulltitan> hello guys
[09:53] <th0m4s> i'm about to setup vnc so that i can just give an expert login info to a laptop with 0 personal data whatsoever
[09:53] <noiesmo> exceswater, do you have universe and multiverse enabled then you can get nvidia drivers
[09:53] <th0m4s> if that would work
[09:54] <bulltitan> today i'm using a sound blaster live 24 and i see that i can't contro volume by using shortcuts
[09:54] <bulltitan> is this because of pcm control or gstreamer thing?
[09:55] <bulltitan> i'm blind here i could use some help please
[10:07] <JairunCaloth> well that didn't work so well...
[10:09] <th0m4s> i officially need help forcing X to use the resolution that i want
[10:09] <th0m4s> i have tried (in the past, not this time) the edits of the config that are suggested
[10:09] <JairunCaloth> make sure your moniter is properly configured
[10:09] <th0m4s> and while 1280x768 do get added to the config and shoudl work, they never become an option
[10:09] <th0m4s> JairunCaloth: i can't set the model as it's a laptop but i set flat panel 1280x768 :(
[10:09] <th0m4s> http://imagesocket.com/images/snapshot10c4.png
[10:11] <th0m4s> with your advice i will push butan
[10:12] <avatar> hi there. i have a problem with my laptop (acer travelmate 8103), dapper drape, X.org 7.0 and the ati fglrx driver (for the radeon 700). i installed xorg-driver-fglrx and linux-restricted-modules-2.6.15-23-686. loading the kernel module is no problem. lsmod shows fglrx and agpgart. but starting x is broke: (EE) Failed to load module "fglrx" (module does not exist, 0)\n (EE) No drivers available. so the Xorg module seems to be not found. i don't know ...
[10:12] <avatar> ... what to do further :-/
[10:12] <th0m4s> avatar: "acer"
[10:12] <avatar> th0m4s: this means in long form? "calling the famous acer support?"
[10:12] <th0m4s> this means "you are using an acer"
[10:13] <avatar> th0m4s: yes, that is correct. an acer travelmate 8103 - better than no computer :)
[10:13] <th0m4s> http://mindspill.net/v3/content/computing/linux_notes-gentoo-install_guide-acer_travelmate_8104wlmi.html
[10:13] <th0m4s> closest one
[10:14] <th0m4s> wow that's pretty in depth
[10:15] <th0m4s> closest for me is a :( http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=476349
[10:17] <th0m4s> the only one that really applies is in italian
[10:17] <avatar> ah well, i'll take a look, thanks.
[10:18] <th0m4s> The video chipset is an Intel 855GME. For some reason the BIOS does not correctly setup the widescreen mode so this is not auto-deteced by the Xorg server (as far as I can work out). To get widescreen working I had to download and compile the 855resolution utility from Alan Poirier (thanks Alan!). Follow the instruction in the README.txt, that is
[10:23] <RawSewage> tj9991,  http://apnews1.iwon.com//article/20060612/D8I6QGPO3.html
[10:23] <tj9991> yes, I know
[10:23] <tj9991> I knew about that weeks ago
[10:23] <RawSewage> I know.  you sent me the mp3, remember, Champ
[10:24] <tj9991> im eating dry top ramen
[10:24] <tj9991> the snack for programmers
[10:24] <RawSewage> what does that have to do with Kubuntu
[10:24] <tj9991> [01:23]  <RawSewage> tj9991,  http://apnews1.iwon.com//article/20060612/D8I6QGPO3.html
[10:25] <tj9991> what does that have to do with Kubuntu
[10:30] <erik__> Kubuntu freezes my computer completely when playing videos (after about 15 min).. It is the same with any codec and any video player... I tried re-installing Kubuntu and it is the same now with a 100% clean and fresh installation
[10:30] <erik__> what can be wrong?
[10:31] <th0m4s> sounds like overheating
[10:31] <th0m4s> whats the computer
[10:31] <th0m4s> ok woah now i'm in a much higher rez but is it the right higher rez
[10:31] <th0m4s> OMG 855resolution IS THE BOMB
[10:31] <th0m4s> WOOT
[10:32] <erik__> th0m4s: it's a laptop, my fan doesn't even turn on when playing a low-res movie like I was just now, last time it froze
[10:33] <mrmist> Hi guys
[10:33] <mrmist> I need to make a machine set it's own static IP-address
[10:33] <mrmist> anyone know how to ?
[10:34] <th0m4s> ifconfig
[10:34] <erik__> th0m4s: any idea? where can I find logs about what happens?
[10:34] <mrmist> th0m4s: er... I need to SET the IP automatically each time I boot... not read it
[10:34] <mindspin> hi, when I load default kernel (2.6.15) my pcmcia nic is not recognized, I have to boot with 2.6.12 kernel any ideas?
[10:34] <nnn0> mrmist: ifconfig eth <IP_ADDRESS> netmask <IP_ADDRESS> up
[10:34] <nnn0> for instance
[10:35] <nnn0> eth0 of course
[10:35] <nnn0> but you may have to use route also
[10:35] <erik__> mrmist: I think in /etc/hosts though you can certainly do it with some graphic config app instead
[10:35] <nnn0> to set the network and the gateway
[10:35] <JairunCaloth> happy fun time with text based irc...
[10:35] <nnn0> no hosts are for local nameresolving
[10:35] <th0m4s> or you could install webmin and do it that way
[10:35] <th0m4s> (graphically)
[10:36] <erik__> mrmist: K -> System Settings -> Network Settings
[10:36] <pd273> mrmist: you can do this
[10:36] <pd273> Go to Start-> System settings -> Network settings
[10:36] <pd273> click the Admin mode and you can add your own IP address
[10:36] <JairunCaloth> If I were an error log for X, where might I be hidding?
[10:36] <nnn0> mrmist, http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/HOWTO-INDEX/networking.html :)
[10:36] <erik__> where can I find logs about why my computer locks up completely when playing movies for about 15 min?
[10:37] <pd273> its in /etc/network/interfaces if you need to do it in the CLI way
[10:37] <mrmist> th0m4s: Will that command make the PC have the same IP each time it starts ???
[10:38] <th0m4s> i dunno really
[10:38] <pd273> mrmist: yup
[10:38] <erik__> where can I get help with Kubuntu?
[10:38] <erik__> any help channels?
[10:38] <pd273> here :)
[10:39] <erik__> pd273: obiously I can't, so do you know somplace else?
[10:39] <th0m4s> tryin to figure out
[10:39] <th0m4s> install apache through adept or not
[10:39] <mrmist> ah... think I got it now...
[10:39] <pd273> erik__: you can get most help from http://www.ubuntuforums.org/
[10:39] <mrmist> trying to rebbot the server...
[10:40] <mrmist> Thanks guys :)
[10:40] <pd273> erik__: did you check /var/log/messages for any usefull info about the crash
[10:40] <mrmist> gotta go now
[10:40] <mrmist> cya
[10:40] <th0m4s> someone said that the dapper dvd added itself as another repository for packages when you put it in
[10:40] <th0m4s> but that did not happen for me
[10:40] <th0m4s> am i supposed to put it in before or after starting adept
[10:41] <pd273> th0m4s: if it does not work that way, insert the CD and try "sudo apt-cdrom add" from CLI
[10:42] <pd273> it might work to add the DVD too to the repo
[10:42] <th0m4s> pd273: well i had the dvd in before starting adept and maybe i should put it in after
[10:42] <th0m4s> is the question
[10:43] <pd273> th0m4s: am not sure about adept doing it automatically
[10:43] <pd273> let me check
[10:44] <th0m4s> just using your apt
[10:44] <visik7> what means X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 166
[10:45] <visik7> every apps generate this error
[10:45] <admin_> Hey All
[10:46] <cox377> Hi all
[10:46] <cox377> i was wondering if someone can give me a hand with something
[10:47] <pd273> th0m4s: I tried but adept is not doing it automatically for me
[10:47] <pd273> we could try cox377
[10:47] <cox377> I'm knew to Linux.. had kubuntu installed for the last 72 hours and very impressed.. but i'm trying to open some ports up
[10:47] <cox377> and for love nor money i cant get a firewall installed such as guarddog
[10:47] <pd273> hmm
[10:47] <cox377> i've tried the get apt commands
[10:48] <pd273> cox377: your problem might be that you have not enabled the multiverse repository
[10:48] <Partizan77> A hello from beautiful Berlin. Unfortunately my English is too bad, therefore I cannot remain with you. Much fun
[10:48] <cox377> how do i go about enabling them?
[10:49] <pd273> cox377: I am checking for a link
[10:49] <cox377> thanks
[10:49] <cox377> :d
[10:49] <pd273> everybody has this same problem
[10:49] <cox377> :s
[10:49] <nico8481> hi
[10:50] <cox377> Ummm
[10:50] <cox377> is there anyway to open up ports?
[10:50] <cox377> manually maybe
[10:50] <cox377> for a novice
[10:50] <pd273> cox377: what service would this port be used for
[10:51] <cox377> Basically, i have also set Kubuntu as the main OS for someone else, however they use bloody hotmail.. everything has worked fine so far apart from trying to get hotmail working with thunderbird. I've installed an extention to get it to work but 3 ports have to be open for that extention to work
[10:52] <cox377> under adept manager i installed a firewall called shorewall.. but then once installed i cant find it anywhere to be able to configure it
[10:53] <pd273> cox377: for the installation your /etc/apt/sources.list should look like this http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/706110
[10:53] <pd273> cox377: shorewall is an excellent firewall, but I should say it is not good for beginners
[10:53] <FHX> Hey all, after installing libdvdcss2 my computer still won't play DVDs, saying that the source can't be read. Does anyone know of how I could fix this?
[10:54] <FHX> (Kaffeine player)
[10:54] <pd273> unders /usr/share/doc/shorewall you will see how to start using shorewall
[10:54] <cox377> ahh ok..
[10:54] <cox377> i shall take a look
[10:54] <cox377> thanks for yah help
[10:54] <pd273> I have shorewall installed of for all my servers
[10:54] <JohnFlux> ah shorewall
[10:55] <cox377> is it fully configurable?
[10:55] <FHX> .____.
[10:58] <pd273> cox377: you can configure it to the best possible :)
[11:01] <pd273> shorewall is the best I have seen
[11:01] <pd273> :)
[11:01] <FHX> ..
[11:01] <FHX> O.o
[11:02] <FHX> Can nobody help me with the DVD problem?
[11:02] <cox377> Just having a read through the instructions
[11:02] <dr3as> FHX: tryed using mplayer?
[11:02] <cox377> does it take over all kubuntu?
[11:02] <FHX> dr3as: I've tried xine + kaffeine. I'll try Mplayer
[11:02] <FHX> dr3as: Both of them give the same error though. So using Mplayer might not help much.
[11:02] <jpatrick> !dvd
[11:02] <ubotu> DVD playing is possible in ubuntu. You may need libdvdcss2, which is available via http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages (section extras)
[11:03] <dr3as> if you try to brows the place the dvd has been mounted, can you see everything on the dvd?
[11:03] <FHX> yes
[11:03] <FHX> i've already installed libdvdcss2
[11:05] <BlueDevil> any way i can get a gnome-centric application to support webdav in kubuntu?
[11:05] <farous> !easysource
[11:05] <ubotu> For an easy to use custom sources.list creator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[11:07] <emonkeylap> BlueDevil, Konqueror is a good WebDav Client why do you want another one in kubuntu?
[11:07] <BlueDevil> i need planner (project management) to open the file from webdav
[11:08] <BlueDevil> planner is a gnome app
[11:08] <cox377> lol.. does this shorewall not have a front end?
[11:08] <BlueDevil> i don't want to copy the file locally, edit it, and then upload it to webdav again
[11:08] <farous> is multiverse supported by ubuntu or is it at the same level as back-ports ??
[11:09] <BlueDevil> emonkeylap: any ideas?
[11:11] <pd273> cox377: I dont think so
[11:12] <pd273> its all CLI work
[11:12] <pd273> guarddog was the last one I have seen with has a good GUI
[11:12] <tj9991> RawSewage, http://www.goonbase.com/
[11:12] <tj9991> why didn't we think of this
[11:12] <pd273> cox377: By default all ports are accessible on your machine
[11:13] <pd273> why do you need a firewall now
[11:13] <smyke> hi again
[11:14] <RawSewage> tj9991, what is it
[11:14] <tj9991> a long long time ago, a poster had the idea of starting a gigantic project
[11:14] <tj9991> everyone added to an image
[11:14] <tj9991> it was done through a forum thread
[11:14] <tj9991> it was so popular someone scripted it to make it easier, and resulted in that site
[11:14] <RawSewage> for Kubuntu?
[11:14] <tj9991> everyone can add a cell or two, or more if they want
[11:15] <tj9991> yes, for Kubuntu
[11:15] <RawSewage> It will give me ideas
[11:15] <tj9991> people like to work together
[11:15] <tj9991> the system is very basic and it works
[11:16] <RawSewage> like in Kubuntu
[11:16] <tj9991> like in lightcycle racing in Tron
[11:16] <tj9991> aka Kubuntu
[11:16] <cox377> ahh
[11:16] <RawSewage> or in #Boringville
[11:16] <cox377> PD273 - if all ports are accessable.. does that not make the machine liable to be open to anything?
[11:17] <pd273> cox377: you are right in a certain way
[11:18] <cox377> Basically.. all i want is to secure the computer.. yet open the ports that i require
[11:19] <cox377> i've used guarddog on a live cd ages ago and i think it did what i want
[11:19] <cox377> i dont know why the apt-get install guarddog isnt working
[11:19] <cox377> root@admin-desktop:~# apt-get install guarddog
[11:19] <cox377> Reading package lists... Done
[11:19] <cox377> Building dependency tree... Done
[11:19] <cox377> Package guarddog is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[11:19] <cox377> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[11:19] <cox377> is only available from another source
[11:19] <cox377> E: Package guarddog has no installation candidate
[11:19] <cox377> thats what i get
[11:21] <nnn0> guarddog is judt a gui for iptables
[11:21] <nnn0> jsut
[11:22] <cox377> I know.. but i dont know how to do it manually.. i've had a quick read.. it's gone over my head
[11:22] <cox377> point and shoot is what i'm after
[11:22] <nnn0> k, are you on suse 10.1 ?
[11:22] <nnn0> no sry wrong channel :D
[11:22] <cox377> me?
[11:22] <cox377> Ok
[11:22] <nnn0> you are on kubuntu of course
[11:23] <nnn0> i guess you could just try to download it
[11:23] <samuli> cox377, you don't have right reporitories in sources.list
[11:23] <nnn0> ah, check that first of course
[11:24] <nnn0> guarddog should normally be there
[11:24] <samuli> though sources.list might be something completely different for rmp-package manager.
[11:25] <samuli> err.. hmm.
[11:25] <cox377> http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/706110
[11:25] <cox377> thats the site that was given to me earlier
[11:25] <emonkeylap> BlueDevil, sorry no idea...
[11:25] <samuli> you said you used apt-get.. but doesn't suse use rpm instead of debs?
[11:25] <cox377> I'm using kubuntu
[11:25] <jpatrick> samuli: what?
[11:26] <jpatrick> Never mind
[11:26] <samuli> cox377, okay.. so check your sources.list
[11:28] <cox377> ahh ok.. sorry i think i'm understanding.. the reporitories are just the list of servers?
[11:29] <cox377> do i just copy and paste those lines from the site into the sources.list?
[11:31] <_rince_> mrgn
[11:31] <weedar> cox377: yes just add them to the end of your /etc/apt/sources.list - take a backup of the original one first jut in case
[11:31] <weedar> Be sure to run "sudo apt-get update" to make apt-get scan all the repositories so you actually use them cox377 :)
[11:32] <cox377> when
[11:32] <cox377> ## Ubuntu Dapper Drake repo
[11:32] <cox377> deb http://in.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper main restricted
[11:32] <cox377> deb http://in.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper-updates main restricted
[11:32] <cox377> deb http://in.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper universe multiverse
[11:32] <cox377> deb http://in.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper-backports main restricted universe multiverse
[11:32] <cox377> deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper-security main restricted
[11:32] <cox377> deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper-security universe multiverse
[11:32] <cox377> opps
[11:32] <cox377> sorry i didnt mean to past that
[11:33] <cox377> when i try and save sources.list it says Could not write to /etc/apt/sources.list.part.
[11:33] <weedar> how are you editing sources.list cox377?
[11:33] <jme__> my guess is that you should be root to save those file
[11:34] <cox377> just opening it in the 'kate' txt program
[11:34] <jme__> retry with  'sudo kate'
[11:34] <cox377> how do u mean jme?
[11:35] <weedar> cox377: sources.list requires root-priveleges to edit, when starting a program to edit it you need to prepend "sudo" to the command
[11:35] <jme__> cox377: open a terminal and type 'sudo kate /etc/apt/sources.list'
[11:35] <cox377> do u mean run that under the command prompt
[11:35] <jme__> cox377: then do your modification. and the save should work ok
[11:35] <jme__> weedar: is more didactic than me :)
[11:36] <cox377> it says that it cannot connect to x server
[11:36] <cox377> sorry about this guys