[14:20] <swatto> and i can select plugins and stuff but how do i use them
[14:21] <nosrednaekim> swatto» look into the "shortcuts" or "key bindings" for each plugin
[14:22] <nosrednaekim> !find encode
[14:22] <ubotu> Found: grabcd-encode, libencode-perl, python-formencode, mencoder
[14:23] <swatto> ah yes i see but what is super key?
[14:23] <nosrednaekim> !search encode
[14:23] <ubotu> Found:
[14:23] <nosrednaekim> swatto» Meta, or the windows key
[14:23] <nosrednaekim> !encode
[14:23] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about encode - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[14:24] <swatto> whats meta?
[14:25] <jpatrick> swatto: win key
[14:26] <martijn81> the front page of kubuntu.org needs an update for hardy
[14:26] <nosrednaekim> meta is what KDE calls the win key
[14:26] <swatto> hmm dont think its working then
[14:27] <fiyawerx> travkin: hi?
[14:28] <travkin> hi
[14:28] <fiyawerx> [09:27] [CTCP] Received Version request from travkin to channel #kubuntu.
[14:28] <swatto> hmm the keys are not doing anything
[14:28] <martijn81> hi travkin
[14:28] <jpatrick> fiyawerx: thanks for the heads up
[14:29] <fiyawerx> np, what was that about?
[14:29] <jpatrick> fiyawerx: he got a list of every client connected to this channel
[14:29] <fiyawerx> ah
[14:29] <jpatrick> fiyawerx: bad, cos it's just attackers do
[14:29]  * fiyawerx nods
[14:31] <nosrednaekim> swatto» try reasigning the shortcuts
[14:32] <swatto> Initiate is disabled and i can click it and it says New Acclerator... and then i click away from it and it changes back to Disabled
[14:33] <swatto> paint on fire ^^
[14:33] <nosrednaekim> swatto» when it says new acclerator...press the key combination
[14:33] <subspider> hi everybody
[14:33] <mrunagi> HI subspider
[14:34] <subspider> hehe i don't use ir for ages
[14:34] <swatto> done that but pressed it and nothing happens :(
[14:34] <swatto> pressed the key combination
[14:35] <subspider> can anybody tell me what is the program to know the temperatura of my cpu  in kubuntu
[14:35] <Dr_Willis> !info lm-sensors
[14:35] <ubotu> lm-sensors (source: lm-sensors): utilities to read temperature/voltage/fan sensors. In component main, is extra. Version 1:2.10.4-1ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 496 kB, installed size 1520 kB
[14:36] <TimS> !info ksensors
[14:36] <subspider> i allready have that
[14:36] <ubotu> ksensors (source: ksensors): lm-sensors frontend for KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.7.3-15ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 296 kB, installed size 920 kB
[14:37] <subspider> but it doesn't show me the temperture
[14:37] <mrunagi> Error: "/var/tmp/kdecache-mrunagi" is owned by uid 1000 instead of uid 0. Error: "/tmp/kde-mrunagi" is owned by uid 1000 instead of uid 0. Error: "/tmp/ksocket-mrunagi" is owned by uid 1000 instead of uid 0.............anyone know how to fix this? i get thissometimes namely when i do sudo kate
[14:37] <TimS> It should.
[14:37] <TimS> subspider: try kima, that does for me.
[14:37] <TimS> !info kima
[14:37] <ubotu> kima (source: kima): kicker monitoring applet. In component universe, is optional. Version <IP_ADDRESS>-0ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 114 kB, installed size 448 kB
[14:38] <nosrednaekim> swatto» maybe type in the key combo....not really sure... #compiz-fusion might be of greater help
[14:39] <swatto> ok cheers
[14:40] <subspider> i install kima how do i run it
[14:40] <subspider> ??
[14:40] <re-align> Hmm, used to be you could tell XChat to not reply to CTCP version requests...anyone know how to do this in version 2.8.4?
[14:40] <mrunagi> i assume sudo apt-get isntall kima?
[14:40] <mrunagi> or is that a stupid assumption
[14:40] <romunov> what's the command to softlink files/direectories?
[14:40] <epsilorn> hi i'm rather noobie, what does it mean when trying to compile a package i got this: warning: unable to find dependency information for shared library libasound (soname 2, path libasound.so.2, dependency field Depends)?
[14:41] <mrunagi> epsilorn: missing dependencies
[14:41] <epsilorn> so what i gotta do?
[14:41] <mrunagi> epsilorn: can you not install using apt-get?
[14:41] <subspider> i use synaptic
[14:42] <epsilorn> no it's latest driver
[14:42] <mrunagi> either way
[14:42] <subspider> it sais is installed
[14:42] <mrunagi> run it subspider
[14:42] <prince_jammys> romunov: ln -s
[14:42] <subspider> how
[14:42] <subspider> ??
[14:43] <subspider> sorry i'm new
[14:43] <mrunagi> type kima in the prompt?
[14:44] <nosrednaekim> romunov» ln -sf source dest
[14:44] <epsilorn> mrunagi: it's altest dirver i cannot use apt-get
[14:44] <subspider> i wrote but it sais can not run the specified comand
[14:45] <mrunagi> epsilorn: is there any documentation on what dependencies you need
[14:45] <epsilorn> mrunagi: no, it's said it should install directly
[14:46] <mrunagi> i dunno how to help you epsilorn, there are missing dependencies but i dunno how to figure out which
[14:46] <epsilorn> mrunagi: so I, thanks anyway for your kindness
[14:47] <mrunagi> no problem
[14:47] <mrunagi> its the kubuntu way
[14:47] <mrunagi> even though no one has helped me on my recent problem :D
[14:47] <epsilorn> eheh probably nobody knows
[14:47] <mrunagi> possibly, but the error doesnt look super weird
[14:48] <carate> Why Can't I Voluntarily Feel Pain For A Long Time Like Years At A Time? i do anything in my power to stop feeling the pain and i can't ever do anything to feel pain voluntarily. imagine me being homeless that would be hell and I am close to being that. what is my issue?
[14:49] <mrunagi> um
[14:50] <mrunagi> out of habbit i was opening ubuntu forums to fix carate's problem
[14:51] <subspider> hi
[14:51] <subspider> i can't run kima
[14:51] <nosrednaekim> mrunagi» lol
[14:51] <subspider> but in synaptic it sais is installed
[14:51] <nosrednaekim> !sudo | mrunagi
[14:51] <ubotu> mrunagi: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for more information.
[14:52] <nosrednaekim> !kdesudo
[14:52] <ubotu> In KDE, use « kdesudo <program> » (Gutsy) or « kdesu <program> » (Feisty and earlier) to run graphical applications with root privileges when you have to. Never just use "sudo"! (See http://psychocats.net/ubuntu/graphicalsudo to know why)
[14:54] <nosrednaekim> !search konverter
[14:54] <ubotu> Found:
[14:56] <subspider> kdesudo <program> don't work
[14:56] <subspider> it sais comand not found
[14:56] <nosrednaekim> subspider» if you are on fiesty.... you need to use kdesu
[14:57] <subspider> now sais x serv not found
[14:57] <subspider> cannot conect to x serv
[14:57] <magarelli> #ubuntu-it
[14:57] <magarelli> How can I change channel?
[14:58] <romunov> type "/j #newchannel"
[14:58] <romunov> or double click the "#channel"
[15:00] <ibou> hi
[15:00] <ibou> is it possible to get itunes ?
[15:00] <subspider> lol
[15:00] <subspider> use amarok is better
[15:01] <basti> or banshee
[15:01] <subspider> i have an ipod and it work
[15:01] <ibou> subspider: i like amarok but i don't like the presentation of the shoutcasts
[15:01] <subspider> !amarok
[15:01] <ubotu> Amarok is an audio player for Linux with an intuitive interface. The latest version is 1.4.8 (1.4.3 for Dapper LTS). Packages are available for Kubuntu at www.kubuntu.org See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Amarok
[15:01] <SlimeyPete> ibou: if you really want itunes, I hear it works under Wine
[15:02] <subspider> yes
[15:02] <SlimeyPete> but I haven't tried it myself
[15:02] <subspider> it work
[15:02] <subspider> i tryed
[15:02] <ibou> ok
[15:02] <subspider> !wine
[15:02] <ubotu> WINE is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information, and see !AppDB for application compatibility.
[15:02] <subspider> but i just want to know the temeperature of my cpu
[15:02] <ibou> basti: does banshee have a nice shoutcast presentation ?
[15:03] <prince_jammys> !conky | subspider: see if this has it
[15:03] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about conky - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[15:03] <prince_jammys> !info conky | subspider: see if this has it
[15:03] <ubotu> subspider: see if this has it: conky (source: conky): highly configurable system monitor for X based on torsmo. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.4.7-0ubuntu2 (gutsy), package size 140 kB, installed size 472 kB
[15:03] <subspider> you can configure the amrok it have many many pulgins
[15:04] <ibou> subspider:  do you know a good plugin for shoutcasts ?
[15:04] <subspider> go on kdelook
[15:04] <subspider> just give me a minute
[15:05] <ibou> what is kdelook ?? a wabsite ?
[15:05] <prince_jammys> ibou: yes
[15:06] <prince_jammys> !themes | ibou
[15:06] <ubotu> ibou: Find your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://art.gnome.org - http://www.kde-look.org - http://kubuntu-art.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy
[15:06] <ibou> prince_jammys: ok
[15:06] <gavo> hey mrunagi   just wanted to let you know that I fixed the problem but booting with a Ghost rescue disk, and running a disk check, including chdsk, and fixing the errros
[15:06] <gavo> soon as i booted back into kubuntu, the drives automounted :)
[15:09] <subspider> i tryed conky it's working but it doesn't shor temperature of my cpu
[15:09] <nosrednaekim> !sensors
[15:09] <ubotu> You might find something useful at: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SensorInstallHowto
[15:09] <ibou> i noticed a bug : when i play a video with mplayer from a device. After, i can't umount this device. The only way is to kill two dbus processes. Anyone else noticed that ?
[15:09] <tdn> Firefox is using 50% CPU all the time, when it is just idling. I think it is the Flash plugin that is causing problems. How do I fix this? It is extremely annoying on my laptop, because it drains the laptop battery.
[15:10] <tdn> My sound volume is much lower after upgrading to Kubuntu 7.10! I have tried adjusting the volume in both alsamixer, aumix, kmix, etc, but none of it helps. How do I fix this? I do not even know how to investigate this problem any further.
[15:10] <nosrednaekim> tdn» turn up the volume on the PCM channel
[15:16] <INOSHU> Hey... I have a question?
[15:16] <nosrednaekim> ask INOSHU
[15:16] <INOSHU> Which Ubuntu-compatible media player is most similar to iTunes? (both in terms of interface, and certain features... I don't need iPod support, but i do need MP3 support, tag editing(preferably but not essentially including album art), ratings, and smart playlists... CD burning would be nice too but I can live without it)
[15:17] <jpatrick> INOSHU: amarok
[15:17] <nosrednaekim> INOSHU» Amarok can do all that easy :)
[15:17] <INOSHU> ok
[15:17] <INOSHU> thanks ^^
[15:17] <INOSHU> it's available in the normal programs manager?
[15:17] <martijn81> it is installed by default
[15:17] <ibou> INOSHU: yes
[15:17] <INOSHU> ah ok
[15:17] <INOSHU> thanks ^^
[15:17] <INOSHU> cya
[15:17] <nosrednaekim> its installed by default in kubuntu
[15:18] <ibou> my problem is that i would like to see the bitrate on shoutcasts and i can't see them with amarok
[15:19] <martijn81> ibou: also not when you enable a collumn for bitrate?
[15:22] <subspider> i installed ksensor it works fine
[15:22] <subspider> but still no have the capacity to view temperature of my pc
[15:22] <subspider> i have a laptop
[15:23] <subspider> and sometimes is just turn of
[15:23] <subspider> i think is temperature
[15:23] <subspider> is to high
[15:23] <BluesKaj> howdy all :)
[15:23] <subspider> hi
[15:23] <nosrednaekim> subspider» did you run the sensors-detect command?
[15:23] <nosrednaekim> hey BluesKaj....
[15:24] <ibou> martijn81: yes i can do that but i have to select the radio first. I would like to have the bitrate and descritption of each radio in the radio selection aplet (on the left in amarok)
[15:24] <BluesKaj> hi nosrednaekim
[15:26] <BluesKaj> ibou, in order to know the bit rate , the bitstream has to be detected first , some stations will advert it in the station title but most don't
[15:27] <ibou> BluesKaj: ok
[15:27] <kaminix> Is there any way to make a folder on one drive update itself with a backup of what's in the folder of another drive?
[15:27] <mrunagi> anyone know how to fix Error: "/var/tmp/kdecache-mrunagi" is owned by uid 1000 instead of uid 0.
[15:28] <nosrednaekim> mrunagi» yes... use kdesudo instead of sudo to run graphical apps
[15:28] <mrunagi> thats so confusing =(
[15:28] <nosrednaekim> what?
[15:29] <mrunagi> i learned on sudo
[15:29] <mrunagi> lol
[15:29] <mrunagi> kdesudo is hard to remember
[15:29] <mrunagi> but then again i also learned to use gedit, i still do that from time to time
[15:30] <mrunagi> yay!
[15:30] <mrunagi> my window decorator crashes every time i start compiz
[15:31] <nosrednaekim> mrunagi» are you using emerald
[15:31] <mrunagi> no
[15:32] <nosrednaekim> mrunagi» grab emerald....
[15:33] <andres__> hi
[15:33] <mrunagi> hey nosrednaekim maybe you can help me figure something out, when i reinstalled kubuntu the zoom effect thingy stopped on the quick launcer, and i liked that any idea how to fix that?
[15:33] <martijn81> where is the kubuntu alpha5 release?
[15:33] <andres__> anyone can speak in spanish?
[15:34] <nosrednaekim> !es
[15:34] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[15:34] <DDiuGG> will compiz run on integrated graphics? I am currently running the kubuntu 7.10
[15:35] <nosrednaekim> DDiuGG» what integrated graphics?
[15:35] <mrunagi>  depends on how good the integrated graphics are DDiuGG
[15:35] <DDiuGG> umm 1 sec
[15:35] <DDiuGG> just installed it
[15:35] <subspider> how do i stop a program
[15:35] <subspider> ??
[15:35] <subspider> like conky
[15:36] <llutz> subspider: killall conky
[15:36] <DDiuGG> It states in KInfo Center Intel 82845G/GL
[15:36] <nosrednaekim> DDiuGG» yup..compiz should be fine on that
[15:37] <subspider> thnks ilutz
[15:37] <DDiuGG> do you know any good tuts to perform the install....   I am coming from MS... and I am disgusted w/ Vista
[15:38] <subspider> who is not DDiuGG
[15:38] <mrunagi> !compiz
[15:38] <ubotu> Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion
[15:38] <DDiuGG> wow thank you for the help... I will go attempt it and cross my fingers
[15:38] <subspider> how we know if our grafic card is well installed
[15:38] <DDiuGG> umm I don't
[15:39] <DDiuGG> how can I check
[15:39] <subspider> cause my laptop is a bot slow
[15:39] <nosrednaekim> DDiuGG» intels rarely have problem with drivers
[15:39] <DDiuGG> ok
[15:39] <DDiuGG> thank you
[15:39] <subspider> i have a intel to
[15:39] <subspider> 915
[15:39] <subspider> it sucks
[15:40] <JoTrocken> hi all - how may I display the size of my graphical ram?
[15:40] <JoTrocken> with gutsy
[15:40] <martijn81> where is the kubuntu alpha5 release? i downloaded the ubuntu live-cd alpha5 per accident
[15:40] <subspider> ksensors
[15:40] <DDiuGG> first line in tut asks if I am on "Feisty" what is that and am I with default kubuntu install?
[15:40] <subspider> i installed and it shows
[15:41] <subspider> but you want something grafic like a it have in vista??
[15:41] <DDiuGG> never mind not needed on gutsy
[15:41] <seezer> JoTrocken: try lspci -v
[15:42] <JoTrocken> thx
[15:42] <seezer> then search for your "VGA compatible controller" - it should contain a line like:
[15:42] <seezer>         Memory at d8000000 (32-bit, prefetchable) [size=128M]
[15:45] <chartoin> hi guys, this is an emergency
[15:45] <chartoin> i have a panel and a taskbar
[15:45] <chartoin> I activated panel hiding buttons
[15:45] <chartoin> and now my panel has dissappeared below the task bar
[15:45] <chartoin> what do I do
[15:46] <chartoin> I can't move the taskbar
[15:46] <chartoin> (It souds silly)
[15:47] <martijn81> guys, the kubuntu front page need an update for alpha5
[15:48] <martijn81> for the people searching for the iso: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/releases/hardy/alpha-5/
[15:51] <DDiuGG> I cannot find this
[15:51] <DDiuGG> And for Kubuntu: KMenu -> Settings -> CompizConfig Settings Manager or KMenu -> Settings -> Advanced Desktop Effects Settings
[15:51] <chartoin> panel...panel...
[15:51] <chartoin> I can't get my panel
[15:55] <mohi> hi
[15:55] <mohi> how can I share the internet bettween two kubuntu?
[15:55] <DDiuGG> ok compiz tries to start w/ the cmd "compiz -- replace" then the screen goes black and then just returns to the default kubuntu desktop.... Any thoughts?
[15:56] <BluesKaj> chartoin, alt+F2 ,kcontrol /desktop/panels
[15:56] <NickPresta> DDiuGG, any errors or output? Sounds like compiz is failing and is reverting back to kwin.
[15:56] <DDiuGG> nope no errors
[15:58] <subspider> hi can anybody halp me on configuring amsn
[15:59] <subspider> when i click on my e-mail it can't open firefox
[15:59] <mohi> how can I share the internet bitween two kubuntus by a cross cable?
[16:00] <DDiuGG_1983> any way to troubleshoot why compiz is failing when nothing is being reported to screen
[16:00] <chartoin> thnx BluesKaj
[16:12] <phobes> Am I wrong or is Konqueror looking in files to determine what filetype they are?
[16:13] <SSJ_GZ> phobes: Unless it has a known extension, Konqueror will decide the type of a file based on its contents.
[16:13] <SSJ_GZ> (AFAIK)
[16:14] <phobes> SSJ_GZ:   Ya, and a mere launch association is not a filetype association
[16:14] <mrunagi_> what is a grub 18 error
[16:14] <mrunagi_> !grub
[16:14] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[16:17] <eddy> i work in c++, and i already download the kdevelop, but when a compile de source text, the system said " *** exited whit status: 1*** what da hell is that ?
[16:19] <markit> hi, I've kaffeine installed, but can't play .flv and .avi files... what package am I missing, and how can I discover what is missing?
[16:19] <prince_jammys> markit: probably kubuntu-restricted-extras
[16:19] <prince_jammys> !avi | markit
[16:19] <ubotu> markit: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[16:19] <Sephnroth> erm.  so, with kubuntu gusty gibbon which i just recently installed on my laptop I was just doing an update, told adept to do a full update and it was going fine but whilst commiting changes it failed on like qt3 or something.  after i confirmed the dialog, it crashed out completely.  when i tried to run it again it said that the file it uses was locked
[16:19] <Sephnroth> would i like it to try and resolve the problem, i told it yes and it bombed again
[16:20] <markit> prince_jammys: I'll have a look, thanks
[16:20] <Sephnroth> so i restarted the laptop.. and now when i select ubuntu from grub it says error 15: file not found -_-
[16:20] <MrJigsaw> How do i install a install.sh file ?
[16:21] <prince_jammys> MrJigsaw: that file is a shell script.  try typing ./install.sh
[16:21] <root______> de que se trata esto
[16:21] <prince_jammys> !es | root______
[16:21] <ubotu> root______: Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[16:22] <prince_jammys> MrJigsaw: if it's not running, then ::    chmod 755 install.sh  and try the above
[16:22] <MrJigsaw> where do i write install.sh ?
[16:22] <Sephnroth> konsole
[16:23] <prince_jammys> MrJigsaw: move to the dir where the file is in Konsole
[16:23] <MrJigsaw> whats that? cd ?
[16:24] <prince_jammys> MrJigsaw: yes ... cd /path/to/dir
[16:25] <prince_jammys> MrJigsaw: 755 will make it rwxr-xr-x (executable by everyone, writable only by your user)
[16:25] <MrJigsaw> Ill just drop it..
[16:26] <MrJigsaw> Is there anyway to make a virtual machine for free ?
[16:27] <prince_jammys> i don't know
[16:27] <prince_jammys> about virtual machines
[16:27] <ubuntu> hi, which are the spanish chat servers??
[16:27] <mrunagi_> !x
[16:27] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type « sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart » in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[16:27] <NickPresta> !es | ubotu
[16:27] <ubotu> ubotu: Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[16:27] <NickPresta> !es | ubuntu
[16:27] <ubotu> ubuntu: Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[16:27] <ubuntu> ok thanks
[16:27] <MrJigsaw> I cant get any app to burn labels on DVD's so i need a virtual machine fore verytime i need to do that.. :|
[16:28] <MrJigsaw> meaby any of you know how to burn labels on DVD's in linux ?
[16:29] <Hellscream> Brasil...
[16:30] <prince_jammys> !br | Hellscream
[16:30] <ubotu> Hellscream: Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt para ajuda em português. Obrigado.
[16:39] <BluesKaj> MrJigsaw, google 'lightscribe for linux'
[16:39] <MrJigsaw> lightscribe?
[16:40] <MrJigsaw> I need to print on them.. with my printer :-)
[16:40] <MrJigsaw> I tried using wine and the app i used in windows.. but it just tells me 'No supportede printer was available' ..
[16:42] <BluesKaj> MrJigsaw, can you print in linux without wine ?
[16:42] <nosrednaekim> MrJigsaw» can that program print to PDF, or postscript.. or a file?
[16:42] <MrJigsaw> Im not using wine to print.. i can do that with out problems :-)
[16:42] <MrJigsaw> But i need a special app to print on the CD's...
[16:43] <BluesKaj> lightscribe prints on cds
[16:44] <MrJigsaw> yes.. in the drive
[16:44] <MrJigsaw> Not using a printer afaik ?
[16:44] <MrJigsaw> Its slicing in the CD
[16:44] <llutz> burning
[16:44] <BluesKaj> 'lightscribe' prints on cds and it may have a linux version...dunno whether you want to print paper labels or print on the label side of a cd ?
[16:45] <MrJigsaw> I want to print a picture ON the CD
[16:45] <mrunagi_> hehehehe im turning my dad over to linux
[16:45] <BluesKaj> MrJigsaw, well then why are you trying to use a printer ?
[16:45] <MrJigsaw> Og my god..
[16:45] <MrJigsaw> oh*
[16:46] <MrJigsaw> Because thats what a printer can?
[16:46] <BluesKaj> :)
[16:46] <BluesKaj> the print side of a cd is burned using the laser in you burner
[16:46] <MrJigsaw> NO
[16:47] <nosrednaekim> Mr
[16:47] <BluesKaj> I give up
[16:47] <MrJigsaw> Thats lightscribing.. I need to PRINT!!! (PRINT NOT SLICE) on the CD
[16:47] <nosrednaekim> MrJigsaw» you have a printer that can do that?
[16:47] <MrJigsaw> Yes i have..
[16:47] <MrJigsaw> ffs ive done it to more than a 1000 CD's in windows..
[16:48] <nosrednaekim> MrJigsaw» hrm... It would very much depend on the printer I would think.
[16:48] <BluesKaj> doh
[16:49] <BluesKaj> mrunagi_, I'm trying to convince my son to switch to linux :)
[16:49] <nosrednaekim> well... this ain't windows....
[16:49] <MrJigsaw> Nope
[16:50] <MrJigsaw> and now i keep getting fucking KDE error..
[16:50] <BluesKaj> what kind of printer is it MrJigsaw?
[16:50] <BluesKaj> make & model
[16:50] <MrJigsaw> Canon iP4500
[16:50] <neosaki> Also, watch language.
[16:50] <BluesKaj> !language | MrJigsaw
[16:50] <ubotu> MrJigsaw: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[16:50] <MrJigsaw> english..
[16:50] <cheddarcheeseisy> is JFS supported?
[16:50] <MrJigsaw> Lols
[16:51] <MrJigsaw> you guys are so holy.
[16:53] <mrunagi__> hehehehe im turning my dad over to linux
[16:54] <jpatrick> mrunagi__: yay, I did that to mine ages ago
[16:54] <mrunagi__> im trying to get him to sell computers with linux on it
[16:54] <neosaki> I haven't done that as too many of the applications he needs are on Windows >.>
[16:54] <mrunagi__> figured that people that just want internet and email cant do too much damage
[16:56] <mrunagi__> kubutnu is slow on a 900mhz machine =*(
[16:56] <lordrayden> hi
[16:56] <neosaki> mrunagi_ Its not if you recompile the kernel on that machine along with KDE and run it minimalisticly.
[16:56] <neosaki> I'm running Kubuntu on my old 800mhz mobile terminal right now.
[16:57] <Saied> where can i find qt4.4 packages for gutsy?
[16:57] <mrunagi__> but not with x server right?
[16:58] <neosaki> Umm...yes with XServer
[16:58] <lordrayden> is there a music player in linux that allows me to rate the music I listen just like WMP?
[16:58] <mrunagi__> how do i recompile
[16:58] <mrunagi__> im on the live cd
[16:58] <lordrayden> on star basis :)
[16:58] <nosrednaekim> Saied» riddell's PPA
[16:58] <mrunagi__> !recompile
[16:58] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about recompile - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[16:58] <neosaki> Why the heck would I not put XServer on my terminal? I mean, I love command line, but X allows me to easily multitask.
[16:58] <nosrednaekim> lordrayden» amarok can do that
[16:58] <lordrayden> how?
[16:58] <mrunagi__> neosaki: can you help me recompile it so that it runs faster?
[16:58] <neosaki> mrunagi__: The LiveCD is going to be slow anyway you look at it.
[16:58] <Saied> nosrednaekim: where is it?
[16:59] <neosaki> You gotta install it first.
[16:59] <mrunagi__> lol yea but this is REALLY slow
[16:59] <lordrayden> i right click on it and no chance :(
[16:59] <neosaki> Umm... Yeah
[16:59] <neosaki> Install first
[16:59] <mrunagi__> k
[16:59] <mrunagi__> =)
[16:59] <nosrednaekim> Saied» google it
[17:00] <Saied> nosrednaekim: ok. tnx
[17:00] <neosaki> Also, make sure you know exaclty whats in your machine as far as hardware.
[17:00] <nosrednaekim> lordrayden» hum, I know i've seen it...
[17:00] <mrunagi__> i have a 4.3gig hard drive is that enough?
[17:00] <lordrayden> so? a better replacement 4 amarok?
[17:00] <Saied> nosrednaekim: it is for hardy or gutsy?
[17:00] <nosrednaekim> Saied» I'm not sure.
[17:01] <lordrayden> gutsy 4 me, 4 him, ida no :)
[17:01] <nosrednaekim> lordrayden» nah.. you just gotta find where it allows that, cause I swear it can do it... ask in #amarok
[17:01] <mrunagi__> neosaki: is it possible to install kubuntu without x running, this is taking forever
[17:01] <lordrayden> k tnx
[17:01] <Saied> nosrednaekim: maybe there are some source packages that i can build them for gutsy
[17:02] <nosrednaekim> Saied» mebe
[17:02] <nosrednaekim> mrunagi__» use the laternate installer
[17:02] <nosrednaekim> *alternate
[17:02] <mrunagi__> thats not an option for me =(
[17:03] <mrunagi__> can i kill the x server and do it from the command line?
[17:04] <nosrednaekim> mrunagi__» you can't
[17:04] <mrunagi__> lame
[17:04] <mrunagi__> its still reading the disk
[17:04] <lordrayden> btw, did anyone install *buntu on nforce3 /w amd64?
[17:04] <lordrayden> koz it don't work 4 me :(
[17:05] <mrunagi__> is it really suppose to take this long
[17:06] <mrunagi__> lol the mouse is locking up too
[17:07] <nosrednaekim> mrunagi__» how much RAM do you have?
[17:09] <lordrayden> tnx 4 the #amarok idea, I got my answer about rating music :)
[17:11] <Ralesk> good software is good, gdebi-kde just ate no less than 1100MB of memory just to install a 15MB deb file.
[17:11] <nosrednaekim> lordrayden» how do you do ti?
[17:12] <nosrednaekim> Ralesk» 0.o
[17:13] <Ralesk> nosrednaekim: I'm just as surprised.  Especially since it's python.
[17:13] <nosrednaekim> what package were you installing?
[17:13] <Ralesk> something I downloaded from Intel
[17:14] <Ralesk> I'll uninstall and see what dpkg does, I doubt it'll go above noticeable memory use.
[17:15] <nosrednaekim> yeah
[17:16] <Ralesk> yeah, maxed out on 20 megs.
[17:16] <nosrednaekim> interesting... try install with gdebi again... i'd sayit was cause for a bug
[17:17] <Ralesk> I installed twice, first Linux killed it for eating all the memory
[17:17] <Ralesk> the second time it managed to install it:)
[17:17] <nosrednaekim> whew..
[17:19] <DDiuGG> ok I just completely reinstalled kubuntu from the 7.10 iso, I tried installing compiz for kubuntu but when I restarted the screen was just black. Not knowing much about linux I was forced to reinstall. Can anyone give me a hand getting compiz for kubuntu installed?
[17:19] <PhilRod> hi, I'm using kde 3.5.8 on gutsy. I noticed that links clicked in kmail do nothing. If I try, eg, "kfmclient exec http://www.kde.org" I also get nothing. Looks like something is up with my web browser settings, unless this is a known problem
[17:20] <PhilRod> the install is pretty new, so I'd be surprised if it's a config problem my end. Anyone got any ideas?
[17:21] <martijn81> DDiuGG: best is to ask in #compiz
[17:21] <PhilRod> oh yeah, running "konqueror http://www.kde.org" works fine
[17:21] <nosrednaekim> #compiz-fusion
[17:21] <DDiuGG> thank you
[17:23] <Ralesk> nosrednaekim: LOL, okay, this is fun... I opened my own software's package with gdebi (that's non-root yet) -- 69.9kB deb file, I know what's in it, and without touching, just displaying, the thing occupies about 75MB RAM already :D
[17:23] <nosrednaekim> whew
[17:24] <Arwen> is there any GPLv3 software in Ubuntu?
[17:24] <nosrednaekim> Arwen» kde4
[17:24]  * PhilRod reminds y'all that reported memory usage probably doesn't mean what you think it means
[17:24] <nosrednaekim> Ralesk» still thats awful
[17:24] <Arwen> nosrednaekim, is there a manpage for gpl3?
[17:24] <nosrednaekim> Arwen» don't know
[17:25] <Arwen> then how can I access the GPLv3?
[17:25] <nosrednaekim> Arwen» the liscence is available online
[17:26] <PhilRod> probably in the about page of apps too
[17:26] <Ralesk> 250 in my RAM, 200 iin my swap now while installing XD  and growing.
[17:26] <stdin> Aranel: /usr/share/common-licenses/ contains a few common licences including GPLv3
[17:26] <Arwen> ok
[17:26] <stdin> Arwen: ^
[17:26] <nosrednaekim> Ralesk» thats bug material right there :)
[17:31] <Ralesk> any idea where I could get a hold of gdebi people? (like, not sure if using the ubuntu bug tracker is necessarily a good idea)
[17:31] <hola> sameone can help me to configure my webcam?
[17:32] <jpatrick> !webcam
[17:32] <ubotu> Instructions for using webcams with Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam - Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras
[17:33] <stdin> Ralesk: look in /usr/share/doc/gdebi-core/copyright, gdebi is an ubuntu product so using launchpad is as direct to upstream as you can get without sending a personal email to the author
[17:33] <hola> jpatrick: is it not mentioned
[17:34] <Ralesk> stdin: ah, thanks :)
[17:34] <nosrednaekim> Ralesk» I pinged the KDE port writer but he isn't answering.
[17:34] <Ralesk> I did an apt-cache show gdebi and saw an original maintainer with @debian.org address so I suddenly thought it might not be an ubuntu project afterall
[17:35] <Ralesk> I'll fiddle with launchpad then, thanks
[17:36] <ubuntu> Does somebody know how linux/kubuntu is worknig with internet. You see in windows it cannot identify (network) which is, directly connected thrue FiberLAN, but in Linux it just works directly out of the box. Wondering what the difference between them are.
[17:36] <stdin> Ralesk: when a product is in both debian and ubuntu the original maintainer is always the current debian maintainer, it's something that debian requested we do
[17:36] <Ralesk> ahh
[17:36] <ubuntu> sorry for ubuntu-name, I am on live-CD for the moment
[17:36] <Ralesk> kinda backwards, but eh :)
[17:38] <nosrednaekim> ubuntu» might want to ask in #windows since the problem is not with LInux
[17:39] <hola> sameone can help me to configure my webcam?
[17:39] <ubuntu> nosrednaekim: It is not a problem, I just want to know how kubuntu is handling my internet connection.
[17:40] <nosrednaekim> ubuntu» through knetworkmnager
[17:40] <ubuntu> nosrednaekim. Yes but I meant a little more on the hardware and software connection.
[17:40] <ubuntu> How they are working together .P
[17:40] <nosrednaekim> ubuntu» uhhh... perfectly:) though the kernel I suppose
[17:44] <ubuntu> nosrednaekim: okay, well I suppose so. I am just curious what the difference between GNU/linux and windows are, when they handle the internet connection? ;P
[17:44] <BluesKaj> how to retag an avi file so that a stand alone player will see it as a divx file (which it is) . the tag was stripped when I wrongly used avidemux to join the 2 vcd files together
[17:45] <BluesKaj> ?
[17:46] <Ralesk> nosrednaekim, stdin: bug reported :)
[17:46] <nosrednaekim> ubuntu» the kernel and netowrking stack.... windows uses a modified BSD stack since 2000 I think.
[17:46] <nosrednaekim> Ralesk» thanks
[17:46] <Ralesk> nosrednaekim: I think in Vista they dropped the BSD stack.
[17:47] <nosrednaekim> really?
[17:47] <ubuntu> allright, maybe thats the "problem" in Vista. But it does not work on either Vista or XP. Or uhm, it takes some years for the so called "network" to identify itself inside Windows.
[17:47] <Ralesk> at least that's what I heard -- there's some strange issue with their implementation of DHCP anyway -- can easily flood and kill a subnet with it :)
[17:48] <ubuntu> Sometimes it says limited connection, sometimes, local connection, but in Linux it just works :D
[17:48] <saki> o.O
[17:48] <nosrednaekim> ubuntu» well... I would say that was a very fortunate set of events XD
[17:48] <Ralesk> limited connection is I think when there's no real connection, but Windows gives your network interface a Private IP address anyway
[17:49] <nosrednaekim> Ralesk» yeah.. come to think of it, I heard that too
[17:49] <saki> I don't know what you've been doing, but I've had an easier time setting up Windows Servers than Linux ones. Not to say I don't try to enforce my clientel to use Linux servers were applicable, but lets just face it, you can setup a Windows Server that sees all of the other Windows machines on the network in a matter of minutes.
[17:50] <Ralesk> so what's this FiberLAN thing exactly -- do you directly connect via fiber optics or is it a normal ethernet LAN you plug into your computer?
[17:50] <hatman> Hi all !
[17:50] <ubuntu> Ralesk: okay, but there is a "real" connection. Oh and worth to mention, we just got the FiberLAN, maybe could be it has not fit into the surrounding yet :D
[17:51] <hatman> I'm tying to do an "update version" (to from feisty to gusty) but my adept software doesn't show any "update version" button
[17:51] <jaguilera> hi, just updated using adept updater and when it finished I got this bt: http://pastebin.ca/915286
[17:51] <hatman> any idea ? I looked to some bug posts and on forums, but no tip worked for me
[17:51] <ubuntu> Ralesk: It is just directly, or almost after the modem translator ;) I just drag a LAN-cable (CAT5), directly into my computer.
[17:51] <jaguilera> i'm not sure if it gives any real info on the problem, worth filling a bug?
[17:52] <Ralesk> ubuntu: ah, so then it's likely ethernet as far as the computer is concerned, the fiber is one step later
[17:52] <jaguilera> seems like some object is deleted in the update using delete directly while having some slots connected to it...
[17:52] <jaguilera> s/update/updater/
[17:52] <Ralesk> that should Just Work in windows too, so that's really weird that it doesn't!
[17:52] <nosrednaekim> hatman» did you add the fiesty-proposed repo?
[17:52] <nosrednaekim> !uograde
[17:53] <nosrednaekim> !upgrade
[17:53] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about uograde - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[17:53] <ubotu> For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[17:53] <hatman> nosrednaekim: in my apt-source.list ?
[17:53] <nosrednaekim> jaguilera» did the update fail?
[17:53] <nosrednaekim> hatman» yup
[17:53] <martijn81> damn, anyone knows how to rescue a intel mac from an installation with grub?
[17:53] <ubuntu> Ralesk: yes, you could think so. Seems windows cannot handle pure Fiber directly. On the other hand, for the moment there is no router or switch. It is just, yes connected to fiber.
[17:54] <jaguilera> nosrednaekim: nope, apt-get doesn't complain about anything
[17:54] <hatman> nosrednaekim: yes, i have this: deb ftp://ftp.mirrorservice.org/sites/archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ feisty-proposed restricted main multiverse universe
[17:54] <Ralesk> something does convert from optics to copper wire, so hmm :)  but yeah, maybe the protocol is something else that Windows just doesn't want to deal with... no drivers supplied by the FiberLAN provider or anything?
[17:54] <nosrednaekim> jaguilera» to be certain, run "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" IDK if its worth a bug report
[17:55] <nosrednaekim> hatman» did you read this? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GutsyUpgrades
[17:55] <hatman> nosrednaekim: yes sure
[17:56] <jaguilera> nosrednaekim: dis-upgrade is clean aswell.. i think that given the bt lack on real directions to the problem i'll just leave alone, ie won't report it as a bug
[17:56] <nosrednaekim> and its still not working?
[17:56] <nosrednaekim> jaguilera» ok... sounds good.
[17:56] <djdarkman> hello, is there a way to totally restart the sound system in kubuntu?
[17:56] <jaguilera> nosrednaekim: thx
[17:56] <PhilRod> ok, tracked it down: it was trying to run "/usr/lib/kde4/bin/kfmclient openURL %u text/html" when I'm in kde3 (although I have 4.0.1 installed too). There are two "konqueror"s listed in file associations, and the kde 4 one was at the top. Moving the kde3 one up fixes it, but that's a packaging bug. Where should I report it?
[17:57] <hatman> nosrednaekim: but no "Version update" button. I normaly use apt-get (is there a way to do the version update using it) ?
[17:57] <nosrednaekim> djdarkman» /etc/init.d/alsa-utils restart
[17:57] <ubuntu> Ralesk: No, unfortunatly not. Anyway, they are going to install a multimediacentral in the house, which means switch/router later. So I shall see if there gonna be a difference. I am just curious about this situation, how Windows handles it. And oh, sorry, I forgot. I f you wait darn long time, sometimes Windows accept the connection and it works without problems. So it seems it is windows which is :D uhum bad ...
[17:57] <nosrednaekim> hatman» yeah "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"
[17:58] <djdarkman> nosrednaekim: that doesn`t work
[17:58] <ubuntu_> _
[17:58] <nosrednaekim> djdarkman» try going into system settings->sound and multimedia, changing some valu, changing it back and hitting apply
[17:58] <hatman> nosrednaekim: both command tell me: 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[17:59] <ubuntu> Ralesk, nosrednaekim: thanks for your time, appreciate it. Must go now.
[17:59] <nosrednaekim> hatman» right.... replace all "fiesty" in your sources.list with "gutsy" and get rid of any non-offical repositories
[17:59] <Ralesk> ubuntu: heh, sweet -- well I think that once they install a capable router, it'll likely give you decent Ethernet frames on the CAT5 :)
[17:59] <Ralesk> until then, ubuntu time :)))
[18:00] <ubuntu> Ralesk: yes ;)
[18:00] <ubuntu> I hope I can migrate full time into kubuntu/ubuntu in the future. Maybe when KDE4 is more stable and Adobe Photoshop work 100% in Linux/QT, who knows.
[18:01] <hatman> nosrednaekim: I wanted to do the version update using the usual kubuntu way (GUI) because i read (from a forum) that s/fiesty/gusty/ in source.list could cause many dependencies problems, no ?
[18:01] <ubuntu> cya later.
[18:01] <Ralesk> use kde3 and well, photoshop works... mostly XD
[18:01] <nosrednaekim> hatman» I don't think it can.... if you don't have any 3rd party repositories
[18:02] <hatman> hatman: ahh okay... Hope you're right ;-)
[18:02] <lordrayden> I would like a way to simply share a folder in my kubuntu desktop 710 with my XP laptop without security risks, does anyone know a good HOWTO link?
[18:02] <Ralesk> hatman: doing it with a kubuntu provided GUI does pretty much exactly the same as yourself manually replacing all feisty with gutsy :)
[18:02] <Ralesk> so there should be no harm in doing it by hand
[18:03] <hatman> Ralesk: ahh okay ! I didn't know about this and i found no info about this too...
[18:03] <Ralesk> just remember to always do an apt-get update before any upgrade
[18:03] <hatman> Ralesk: yes sure ! thanks
[18:04] <nosrednaekim> !smaba
[18:04] <nosrednaekim> !samba
[18:04] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about smaba - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[18:04] <ubotu> Samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT.
[18:04] <Ralesk> I personally always do a simple upgrade first, which will hold back software that need to install or remove things
[18:04] <Ralesk> and if that ran fine, then I'll dist-upgrade
[18:04] <Ralesk> I'm not sure if others agree with me on this, but it never gave me any trouble :)
[18:04] <hatman> Ralesk: you mean with the s/fesity/gubsy/ in the source.list ?
[18:05] <Ralesk> yeh, open /etc/apt/sources.list in some editor (kate for example)
[18:05] <Ralesk> which you can do by running: kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list
[18:05] <hatman> okay, will try it ! thanks to Ralesk and nosrednaekim for your tips !
[18:06] <rpope904> hey guys.. quick question.. I just installed kununtu, but the internet doesn't work.. I edited the network config file, /etc/network/*** and it just shows the loopback entry.. I am not too familiar with linux anymore, its been years.. but, I know it works, as I uninstalled slackware to install kubuntu, and it worked under slackware
[18:06] <Ralesk> then you can try to search&replace feisty with gutsy (do mind the spelling)
[18:06] <somekool> how do I list all packages that depends on a specific package... GTK for example ?
[18:06] <weedar> rpope904: are you conneted via a cable or wireless? What machine do you have?
[18:06] <Arwen> somekool, apt-cache rdepends
[18:06] <Arwen> note that this doesn't distinguish between recommend and depend
[18:07] <Ralesk> somekool: that, or use adept and play around in it :)  that's what I tend to do
[18:07] <rpope904> weedar: its a cable, dynamic IP.. so it'll use dhcp, and its an intel series adaptor
[18:07] <somekool> i dont like GUI tools
[18:07] <PhilRod> rpope904: have you tried with the gui tools?
[18:07] <weedar> rpope904: intel cards usually work great, have you tried using knetwormanager?
[18:08] <rpope904> I went into the system and network config, it doesnt list anything there..
[18:08] <Ralesk> somekool: well neither do I usually, I almost always use apt-get directly... but adept is very good for removing my excess packages and to search around in the installed stuff.
[18:08] <nosrednaekim> rpope904» do "sudo lshw"
[18:08] <Arwen> somekool, apt-cache isn't GUI....
[18:08] <morslok> Hi, i'm trying to use soundkonverter to convert .aifs to .mp3s, is that possible?
[18:09] <Ralesk> so do give it a spin, it's a lot more comfortable than playing around with apt-*
[18:09] <rpope904> i'm not logged in to it right now, had to come back into windows to get here.. what should the network file look like, the /etc/network/** and, how to I reload it once I change it?
[18:10] <Ralesk> reload is sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
[18:10] <nosrednaekim> rpope904» there should be a "auto eth0" line
[18:11] <Ralesk> dhcp is I think "iface eth0 inet dhcp" in the /etc/network/interfaces file (granted your ethernet interface is eth0)
[18:11] <rpope904> yeah, there wasn't one, I am trying to find the syntax of it and add it myself
[18:11] <rpope904> ah
[18:11] <rpope904> ok
[18:13] <rpope904> I am gonna try it, if not, i'll use my laptop to get back around
[18:13] <rpope904> thanks
[18:13] <Ralesk> good luck
[18:20] <dana> I had a filesystem failure and lost my dpkg file lists, i.e. dpkg is not able to reinstall packages due to failed removals, any recommendation I can force it ?
[18:21] <Arwen> dana, recover from backups
[18:22] <dana> arwen, thanks but there are none
[18:22] <Arwen> then go cry
[18:23]  * dana cries ...
[18:23] <nosrednaekim> be nice Arwen
[18:23] <nosrednaekim> dana» thats a bad problem. I'd say backup and reinstall
[18:23] <Arwen> well, it's true...
[18:23] <Arwen> sorry, patience is low due to lack of eyeglasses
[18:24] <Roey> dana:  hey, great nick
[18:24] <Roey> dana:  (my cousin's name)
[18:25] <dana> nosrednaekim: nice try, i did a backup but the laptop got a broken cd rom,so i pictured it is easier to reinstall packages from net than trying to install the harddisk in a desktop somewhere...
[18:25] <Arwen> Arwen: name of a Russian pr0n star
[18:25] <Arwen> anyway....
[18:25] <Roey> ah
[18:25] <astan> hello. in /boot/grub/menu.lst i read "lines between the AUTOMAGIC KERNELS LIST markers will be modified by the debian update-grub script except for the default options below. DO NOT UNCOMMENT THEM, Just edit them to your needs".
[18:25] <Arwen> dana, does dpkg still work? reinstall ubuntu-standard ubuntu-minimal and kubuntu-desktop
[18:25] <astan> what does this mean?
[18:25] <Roey> dana:  dana in hebrew is a female name, but I've found that in the USA, it's more unisex
[18:25] <Arwen> then keep installing what you remember having installed
[18:26] <nosrednaekim> dana» your'e probably not going to be able to get it working perfectly if dpkg is b0rked
[18:26] <astan> why shouldn't i uncomment them? i mean, i want to change them.
[18:26] <Arwen> dpkg == single point of failure
[18:26] <_Enissay_> i've installed my ati card driver by enabling restricted driver, but display is too slow... what's wrong?
[18:26] <Arwen> :-\
[18:26] <nosrednaekim> astan» then sopy and paste
[18:26] <nosrednaekim> *copy
[18:26] <astan> and i don't get "Just edit them to you needs".. if i just edit without uncommenting, they won't be taken into effect, will they?
[18:26] <dana> dpkg and the system are still working, just dpkg is unable to remove packages from the system, as it is missing the list of files it installed for this package.
[18:26] <Arwen> _Enissay_, what part of it is slow?
[18:26] <nosrednaekim> _Enissay_» are you running XGL?
[18:27] <astan> nosrednaekim: copy and paste?
[18:27] <Arwen> astan, they're commented because they're not valid grub options
[18:27] <Arwen> astan, the update-grub script reads them and changes the actual options
[18:27] <_Enissay_> Arwen: everything
[18:27] <_Enissay_> nosrednaekim: yes
[18:27] <Arwen> _Enissay_, does it work without XGL?
[18:27] <astan> Arwen: okay. so if i want acpi=off for all kernels, where should i edit?
[18:27] <nosrednaekim> _Enissay_» are you running compiz?
[18:28] <Arwen> astan, DEFOPTIONS iirc
[18:28] <Arwen> just append it
[18:28] <nosrednaekim> astan» in every single kernel
[18:28] <dana> I am more looking for an option to tell dpkg to forget all it's partly knowledge of packages installed and reinstall the complete list.
[18:28] <astan> Arwen: hm. i can't find any DEFOPTIONS in menu.lst to append to :7
[18:28] <astan> s/7/\//
[18:29] <_Enissay_> nosrednaekim: not now, but it's better with compiz in the begining, after a while, it became slower
[18:29] <Arwen> astan, there should be a line "# defoptions="
[18:29] <nosrednaekim> _Enissay_» running XGL without compiz is going to be very slow.
[18:29] <_Enissay_> Arwen: idon't know.... how to do that
[18:29] <Arwen> um... if you know how to install XGL, you should know how to uninstall it...
[18:30] <sourcemaker> my question is off-topic... but do you know a web interface for software QA? Just a task list which have to be checked...?
[18:30] <aharoon> i want to read book thats *.chm what program open this kind of books?
[18:30] <astan> Arwen: ah, lowercase. thanks.
[18:30] <Arwen> I suspect you don't have 3d running, but that's difficult to detect in XGL
[18:30] <mrunagi>  i messed up my partitions =(
[18:30] <_Enissay_> Arwen: right.. :)
[18:30] <mrunagi> they wont mount anymore
[18:30] <Arwen> astan, run "update-grub" after you edit it
[18:30] <mrunagi> it says permission denied =(
[18:31] <astan> Arwen: okay.. but just to be clear; so i should _not_ uncomment the # defoptions=quiet splash after having added the acpi=off? just run update-grub?
[18:31] <nosrednaekim> mrunagi» system settings->advanced->disks and partitions
[18:31] <Arwen> do not uncomment it
[18:31] <astan> Arwen: okay. thanks a lot.
[18:32] <aharoon> i want to read book thats *.chm what program open this kind of books?
[18:32] <mrunagi> YAY! thanks nosrednaekim that rocks
[18:32] <mrunagi> i love kubuntu
[18:33] <nosrednaekim> XD
[18:33] <Arwen> aharoon, there was a chmviewer app, but I don't know if it actually works
[18:33] <mrunagi> ubuntu doesnt do that =)
[18:33] <dana> aharoon: that is compiled html or windows help files, check with apt-get search chm for something matching
[18:33] <Arwen> I would recommend using 7z to extract it and viewing it in Konqueror or Firefox
[18:33] <aharoon> ok i'll try it
[18:33] <mrunagi> !session
[18:33] <ubotu> To make programs start up automatically when you log into your KDE session, run all programs that you want to be started and close all other programs, then select 'Save Session' in the K menu. Alternatively, create a !symlink to the wanted program in ~/.kde/Autostart - See !boot for starting non-interactive programs at boot
[18:33] <hagabaka> apt-cache search \\bchm\\b
[18:34] <dipu> wuts up guys
[18:35] <_Enissay_> Arwen: nosrednaekim: it seems that it's working without XGL... sorry
[18:36] <Arwen> _Enissay_, check for direct rendering - I suspect it's not actually functional.
[18:39] <mrunagi> what is the command issued for control alt exc
[18:39] <nosrednaekim> mrunagi» the task manager?
[18:40] <mrunagi> !session
[18:40] <ubotu> To make programs start up automatically when you log into your KDE session, run all programs that you want to be started and close all other programs, then select 'Save Session' in the K menu. Alternatively, create a !symlink to the wanted program in ~/.kde/Autostart - See !boot for starting non-interactive programs at boot
[18:40] <mrunagi> i dont have a save session
[18:40] <dana> arwen: update, i do have the dpkg.status in /var/backups and current ones in /var/lib/dpkg/status, that is i still know what is installed, but i am missing some removal scripts of the installed packages from /var/lib/dpkg/
[18:41] <Arwen> hmm, that would be bad.
[18:41] <ian|> Hi all! Is there anything like BSD unions on Linux?
[18:41] <Arwen> dana, can you force reinstall every package?
[18:43] <dana> arwen, i am trying hard but i have not found the right dashed option for dpkg yet
[18:43] <mrunagi> my drives dont sit on the desktop anymore
[18:43] <nosrednaekim> ian|» unions?
[18:45] <aharoon> i have ntfs partitions i can mount them by command. i installed ntfs-config and i edited fstab file but when i klik on ntfs-config icon it doesnt open nothing happened i tried to reinstall it nothing
[18:47] <nosrednaekim> aharoon» yes, you can... but I do not know how ;P
[18:48] <aharoon> it should open  a window even it couldnt mount my partitions but it doesnt open any window]
[18:51] <markit> once installed kompozer, everytime I click a link in konqueror topic is open with konpozer instead of konqueror :( I've modified file association preferences, but seems not to work (or do I have to logogg-login again?). Any idea?
[18:53] <dana> aharoon: try to start ntfs-config from the command line, then you can see its messages
[18:54] <tomer> hi all. whats a good movie editing software for kubuntu? i need something that will allow me to take avi files from camera and edit them together to form a movie
[18:54] <tomer> then id like to export these to a common file format
[18:56] <tomer> ok i guess ill try kino since no one has answered
[18:57] <Arwen> tomer, use Cinelerra
[18:57] <tomer> why not kino arwen
[18:57] <Arwen> because Cinelerra is better
[18:58] <markit> try both, is Free software :)
[18:58] <tomer> ok ill try both. thanks guys
[18:58] <markit> btw, last time I checked, was no able to make work satisfactory any of them, but maybe is my problem
[18:59] <aharoon> dana i tried it gave me message for asking about enable write support or read support
[18:59] <mrunagi> compiz and kde dont get along huh
[19:00] <dana> aharoon: can you paste the error line ?
[19:00] <aharoon> it didnt gave me errors it worked from command but from kmenu it didnt
[19:01] <markit> is there a channel dedicated to Hardy? last kernel gives me a lot of troubles
[19:02] <jinzougen> Hey, I just installed kubuntu and I tried to build aterm and gcc failed to find crt1.o...
[19:02] <jinzougen> Anyone can help me out.
[19:02] <jinzougen> A quick google search leads me to believe it has something to do with the fact that I have an amd64 processor.
[19:04] <stdin> jinzougen: install build-essential ?
[19:04] <jinzougen> where do I get that?
[19:05] <dana> jinzougen: apt-get install build-essentials
[19:05] <dana> aharoon: did you answer something on the commandline to make itwork?
[19:06] <jinzougen> Cool thanks, let's see if this helps.
[19:06] <jinzougen> btw why didn't "build-essential" show up in adept
[19:07] <stdin> should do, it's in main and on the install CD
[19:07] <aharoon> it just asked me to use sudo idid it worked in kmenu it doesnt respond anyway
[19:07] <jinzougen> beautiful it worked. Thanks a lot.
[19:08] <aharoon> dana  it just asked me to use sudo idid it worked in kmenu it doesnt respond anyway
[19:08] <dale_> hi all, this is probably a stupid question but what is the command to start kde or xfce from the command line.
[19:10] <dana> aharoon: check the icons settingsinkmenu, it should have kdesu in front of the command
[19:10] <aharoon> ok i'll se
[19:10] <Lynoure> dale_: which one? /etc/init.d/kdm start   ought to work for kde
[19:10] <rjune> I'm having a problem with k3b and my cdrom burner, k3b says cdrecord has no permissions to the device.
[19:10] <rjune> this isn't quite a stock install, but it's all from the stock repos
[19:10] <aharoon> dana gksu ntfs-config
[19:11] <michael_a> adamk: the menu problem continues but i noticed it only happens in kde programs, ie. firefox doesnt do that
[19:12]  * Signil is back.
[19:12] <DexterF> hi
[19:13] <DexterF> wnated to install krita from feisty-backports. aptitude wants to get 137MB of upgrades now, including dosbox and git-core amongst others.
[19:13] <DexterF> why deos it want to upgrade dosbox when I want to up the painter app krita..?
[19:14] <aharoon> dana i changed it and worked thanks for hlping
[19:18] <dana> aharoon: cheers
[19:19] <aharoon> another question about azureus please could i?
[19:20] <aharoon> dana another question about azureus please could i?
[19:21] <vzduch> !ask | aharoon
[19:21] <ubotu> aharoon: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[19:24] <aharoon> dana i opened azureus first time it worked ok but in second time i found some buttons looks weired its loooks like chineese word and other looks fine english words i dont know why i dont use any chineese language and i installed azureus in english language why it do like this?
[19:24] <dana> aharoon: you are welcome
[19:28] <ilya> oxyeTb
[19:29] <Ralesk> o_O
[19:31] <dana> aharoon: try "LANG=en_US.UTF-8 azureus" on the command line
[19:33] <aharoon> dana sudo: LANG=en_US.UTF-8: command not found
[19:33] <Ralesk> why are you sudoing?
[19:34] <dana> Arwen: any ideas on reinstalling kubuntu from inside a running kubuntu, as I only have a working DVD attached to the USB port ?
[19:34] <dana> i.e. no chance on booting from CD
[19:35] <aharoon> dana: ok the command worked without sudo nut it didnt change anything
[19:37] <dana> aharoon: try to figure out the preferences screen in azureus, sorry i do not know azureus myself
[19:37] <Ralesk> yeah, I was about to suggest that
[19:37] <aharoon> ok nevr mind
[19:37] <Ralesk> aharoon: another thing you could do is use ktorrent
[19:38] <rockprincess> hi all! quick question.....where do I put .mo files for kde4 ?! is it the same directory as kde3?
[19:38] <Ralesk> though that's really just avoiding the problem rather than solving it, heh :)
[19:38] <dana> anyone knows how to install from an external dvd drive attached via usb, when the bios does not support that ?
[19:39] <aharoon> the proplem is i cannt read it in that way its unreadable and ktorrnt doesnt work as speed as i want i tried to config it but no chanse azureus work speed  goof
[19:39] <dana> though i have a running kubuntu on harddisk
[19:39] <jpatrick> rockprincess: one sec
[19:40] <marcel> how to configure the runlevel? I want my system to start in runlevel 3 which means without X11 support?
[19:40] <dana> marcel: pass init=3 to the kernel on boot
[19:41] <ere4si> dana: this might help - http://lubi.sourceforge.net/unetbootin.html
[19:41] <marcel> dana: is there a way to put this in a config file?
[19:41] <dana> ere4si: thanks will read it
[19:41] <ere4si> k
[19:41] <dana> marcel: check /boot/grub/menu.lst
[19:42] <marcel> dana: thanks for your help!
[19:42] <JoshOvki> hi guys, just a quick question, if i have 2 linux o/s installed say   kubuntu + debian (for instantace) would it be possible for them to use the same swap file?
[19:42] <Arwen> dana, before you could reinstall from within Kubuntu, you'd need a functional dpkg setup
[19:42] <Arwen> so...
[19:43] <Arwen> JoshOvki, yes. Just don't hibernate
[19:43] <JoshOvki> Arwen: Thank you for the confirmation, i dont hibernate anyway.
[19:44] <JoshOvki> thanks again, bye :)
[19:44] <jpatrick> rockprincess: /usr/share/locale
[19:44] <nuxil> marcel, if its just X you want. you can just chomd -x /etc/init.d/kdm
[19:44] <nuxil> *dont want
[19:45] <nuxil> err
[19:46] <bertvdp> hi, I have just installed kubuntu from the kde4 liveCD, is it not meant for installing or something cause it's acting really strange
[19:47] <dana> Arwen: well my dpkg binary still works, /var/lib/dpkg/info seems to be mostly empty and perl5.8 has problems...
[19:49] <dana> ere4si: lubi looks nice, i will try smb image as it worked on earlier boot problems, though i do not know if it can boot usb-drives as well ?
[19:53] <bertvdp> sorry, can anyone here help me with the kde4 problem I just posted ?
[19:54] <dana> bertvdp: can you give more details ?
[19:56] <bertvdp> so I installed from the kubuntu 7.10 kde4 liveCD, and I couldn't get it to update (no package manager???) so I just did a sudo apt-get upgrade, then I tried to do some system administration stuff, but it doesn't accept my password and also the loginscreen looks a bit stretched
[20:01] <mrunagi> what is the command line equivelant of ctrl alt esc
[20:01] <hydrogen> `kill`
[20:03] <dana> bertvdp: use your normal user password for system administration
[20:04] <bertvdp> it says my password is not right
[20:04] <shadowflier> I have a simmilar problem I cant install anithing
[20:04] <shadowflier> and I dont know what other administative acount besidedes the only one there is
[20:04] <bertvdp> I typ the password for the user 'bert' and it takes a lot of time before it answers and then says that it's wrong
[20:04] <dana> bertvdp: do you have multiple users ?
[20:04] <bertvdp> dana, no, a clean installation
[20:04] <shadowflier> same here
[20:05] <dana> bertvdp: did you do sudo apt-get update before the upgrade you mentioned?
[20:05] <bertvdp> yeah off course
[20:05] <mrunagi> what is the command line equivelant of ctrl alt esc
[20:06] <dana> bertvdp: no problem with password then ?
[20:06] <bertvdp> I can use sudo
[20:06] <bertvdp> but the graphical frontend of kde messes it up
[20:07] <mrunagi> =/
[20:07] <bertvdp> mrunagi, what does ctrl alt esc do ?  In component main, is optional. Version 2.4.2-0ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS> (gutsy), package size 3805 kB, installed size 10488 kB
[20:11] <mrunagi> dunno shadowflier
[20:11] <markit> hi, how can I install an older version of the kernel, since does not appear anymore in the repo?
[20:11] <bertvdp> shadowflier, you don't have your entire repository I think, try sudo apt-get upgrade and otherwise edit sources.list
[20:11] <shadowflier> it does it with all the packages I am trying to get :(
[20:12] <shadowflier> I did the update no change
[20:12] <Arwen> do another 'apt-get update'?
[20:12] <Arwen> or not
[20:12] <bertvdp> *update sorrty
[20:12] <mrunagi> i hate how compiz takes over my shortcuts
[20:12] <Arwen> shadowflier, take a look at your sources.list
[20:12] <bertvdp> mrunagi, you can search on shortcuts and then disable them
[20:12] <mrunagi> what do you mean bertvdp
[20:12] <shadowflier> yah thanks, the update gave me a new message this time, no admin privileges :(
[20:13] <SSJ_GZ> mrunagi: xkill, maybe?
[20:13] <prince_jammys> hah
[20:13] <mrunagi> ah ty it is xkill\
[20:14] <bertvdp> mrunagi, in ccsm, if you do an advanced search you can search on values (aka shortcuts), and then just search for the beginning of your shortcut, and then change it
[20:14] <bertvdp> Arwen, dana, still don't have an idea why things are going wrong ?
[20:15] <shadowflier> arwen how do I look at the source list, where is ti? (I am new)
[20:15] <bertvdp> shadowflier, ow you are new, sorry
[20:15] <bertvdp> shadowflier: do you know how to use a terminal ?
[20:16] <shadowflier> yah
[20:16] <bertvdp> do you know how you can edit files from the command line ?
[20:16] <shadowflier> like text files with vim yah, other no
[20:16] <mrunagi> sudo kate /etc/apt/sources.list shadowflier
[20:16] <bertvdp> that was what I was going to say :p
[20:17] <prince_jammys> kdesudo
[20:17] <mrunagi> sudo kdesudo whatever
[20:18] <mrunagi> interesting i added xkill as command 0 but it wont execute
[20:18] <jpatrick> !kdesudo | mrunagi
[20:18] <ubotu> mrunagi: In KDE, use « kdesudo <program> » (Gutsy) or « kdesu <program> » (Feisty and earlier) to run graphical applications with root privileges when you have to. Never just use "sudo"! (See http://psychocats.net/ubuntu/graphicalsudo to know why)
[20:19] <dana> ere4si: ok, will try to boot lubi ... cu@all
[20:19] <bertvdp> okey, I have found one of the problems
[20:19] <ere4si> luck to you dana
[20:19] <bertvdp> kpackage doesn't work without smartpm and that's not installed by default
[20:19] <thewhitepelican> does anyone here use both kde 3.5 and kde 4.0?
[20:20] <shadowflier> I need to install that one too
[20:21] <TimS> Does gimp have a print option?
[20:21] <TimS> I cant find it
[20:23] <dana> ere4si: did you try it once ? i did not succeed in installing it into grub ..
[20:24] <ere4si> dana: never tried it - saw it recommended once
[20:33] <erban> CIAO
[20:33] <erban> A TUTTI
[20:34] <erban> HELLO
[20:34] <erban> EVERYBODY
[20:34] <erban> I'M NEW
[20:34] <vzduch> !medibuntu > vzduch
[20:35] <erban> SOMEBODY KNOW...............WHY DON'T FUNCTION MY SOUND CARD
[20:35] <erban> PLEASE
[20:35] <vzduch> !caps | erban
[20:35] <ubotu> erban: PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[20:35] <nosrednaekim> !caps | erban
[20:36] <nosrednaekim> !sound
[20:36] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[20:42] <jpatrick> !it | erban
[20:42] <ubotu> erban: Vai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[20:42] <jpatrick> no0tic: ^
[20:42] <erban> e come si fa
[20:42] <erban> ad andarci
[20:43] <jpatrick> erban: /join #ubuntu-it
[20:46] <no0tic> jpatrick, thanks
[20:47] <jpatrick> no0tic: did he make it?
[20:47] <roomulo> hello, there..
[20:47] <no0tic> jpatrick, yes, thanks
[20:47] <roomulo> after the last update of kubuntu (gutsy)
[20:48] <roomulo> the xine returns this error when i try to play rmvb files:
[20:48] <roomulo> "A problem occur while loading a library or a decoder: cook.so"
[20:48] <roomulo> the w32codecs package is installed
[20:49] <roomulo> can anybody help me?
[20:50] <Oloughlin75> !rmvb
[20:50] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about rmvb - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[20:51] <jussi01> !find cook.so
[20:51] <ubotu> Package/file cook.so does not exist in gutsy
[20:51] <roomulo> o_O
[20:52] <jussi01> roomulo: try reinstallingte w32codecs
[20:52] <roomulo> i've tried =/
[20:53] <temsx> can I get help?
[20:53] <roomulo> i guess i'll try to reinstall the xine
[20:54] <wightstraker> Any idea why a splash screen would stall startup?
[20:55] <wightstraker> I had to disable it in grub
[20:56] <free1> I'm thinking that kde4 is looking sweet
[20:56] <free1> but is trying to install kubuntu on my machine going to brick it?
[20:57] <free1> The last kubuntu install I tried... nothing worked
[20:57] <free1> nothing
[20:57]  * Signil is away: Gone away for now.
[20:57] <free1> I heard that
[20:58] <stdin> !away > Signil
[20:58] <free1> make it do what it do
[20:59] <MrJigsaw> Anyone in here knows anything about unnotek VirtualBox' ?
[20:59] <Lynoure> !ask
[20:59] <ubotu> Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[21:00] <MrJigsaw> Okay.. so do anyone know how to get into my PC when im in the virtual box? like a key to change it or something ? :|
[21:00] <MrJigsaw> change back to linux from the XP vbox
[21:00] <tekstacy> I'm having trouble mounting an external ntfs drive.
[21:01] <tekstacy> I get the error hal-storage-removable-mount-all-options refused uid 1000
[21:01] <tekstacy> What's gives?
[21:01] <snarkster> aternoon
[21:01] <MrJigsaw> You need to mount the drive tekstacy :-)
[21:01] <tekstacy> MrJigsaw, Left CTRL + Right mouse
[21:01] <snarkster> I was trying to get starcraft to work and keep getting cant set screen from 32 to 8 BPP how do i change that?
[21:02] <lordrayden> hi, what decent replacement 4 XP dc++ exists in kubuntu?
[21:02] <tekstacy> Yeah, I get that error when I try to mount it
[21:02] <lordrayden> linuxdcpp seems odd
[21:02] <Lynoure> MrJigsaw: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=476568 mentions one or two potential ways, cannot test them for you now
[21:03] <MrJigsaw> right ctrl + right mouse works :D
[21:03] <lordrayden> get a hammer ;)
[21:03] <tekstacy> right ctrl + L is cool too, it integrates them both
[21:05] <lordrayden> hey, is there any dc++ client in kubuntu besides linuxdcpp?
[21:05] <lordrayden> or in linux?
[21:05] <snarkster> !wine
[21:05] <ubotu> WINE is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information, and see !AppDB for application compatibility.
[21:06] <swatto> hi all, is it possible to get rid of the main panel with the KDE menu buttons on etc - and just have the buttons floating on the desktop?
[21:06] <lordrayden> transparent panel?!?
[21:07] <lordrayden> or 3d desktop?
[21:07] <swatto> hmm i dont know?
[21:07] <swatto> just wondering if it is possible and if so how to do it
[21:08] <lordrayden> set panel transparency as u like, but the buttons stay, not float :)
[21:08] <hydrogen> it is in kde4
[21:08] <hydrogen> not in kde3
[21:10] <swatto> can i install kde 4 or will that muck with my compiz etc?
[21:10] <lordrayden> yeap, I remember now...
[21:10] <lordrayden> kinda like vista toolbar
[21:10] <aharoon> how to show my  ip???
[21:11] <lordrayden> ifconfig
[21:11] <aharoon> thanks i was using ipconfig
[21:11] <erban> HI
[21:12] <erban> HELP
[21:12] <lordrayden> ifconfig
[21:12] <lordrayden> not ipconfig
[21:12] <aharoon> ok thx
[21:12] <erban> MY CARK SUOND NO FUOND THE SISTEM
[21:13] <BluesKaj> !it | erban
[21:13] <ubotu> erban: Vai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[21:15] <hydrogen> !yell | erban
[21:15] <ubotu> erban: PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[21:15] <hydrogen> or not!
[21:15] <jpatrick> hydrogen: he's muted so don't worry
[21:15] <hydrogen> wuteva
[21:16] <hydrogen> oh.. nice
[21:16] <hydrogen> 100second ping
[21:16] <hydrogen> :/
[21:16] <swatto> anyone know how i can install kde 4
[21:16] <lordrayden> yall *buntu users, only use wine+dc++? isn't it any native dc++ client?
[21:17] <jpatrick> !kde4 > swatto
[21:17] <swatto> thanks :)
[21:18] <lordrayden> http://www.ubuntugeek.com/howto-install-kde-40-stable-in-ubuntu-gutsy.html
[21:18] <jpatrick> lordrayden: KDE4 help in #kubuntu-kde4 tho :)
[21:19] <lordrayden> :)
[21:19] <mrunagi> what does kde stand for
[21:20] <jussi01> Kdesktop environment
[21:20] <regeya> k desktop environment (used to be 'kool')
[21:20] <lordrayden> ida no, I picked it over gnome koz i feel better with it, try both, pick what u like
[21:22] <lordrayden> does wine and dc++ work out of the box? ;)
[21:23] <lordrayden> or do i have to sweat?
[21:23] <dana> erban: ciao, which soundcard model do you have a problem with ?
[21:23] <dana> lordrayden: what is dc++ used for ?
[21:23] <lordrayden> p2p file transfer
[21:24] <lordrayden> direct connection sort of
[21:24] <dana> lordrayden: what protocoll does it use ?
[21:25] <lordrayden> tcp 411
[21:25] <Ralesk> DC++ is some IRC-like something, but that's about all I know of it
[21:25] <Ralesk> I never liked it myself, because most hubs required me to already have like 5G+ of shared data...  so I said screw them :P
[21:25] <dana> Ralesk: i recall that even napster had some IRC like chat built in...
[21:25] <Ralesk> and this was when all I had was a 6.4G drive
[21:27] <Ralesk> true -- in any case, it's a completely unrelated network to napster, ed2k and winmx (and torrent)
[21:28] <BluesKaj> Ralesk, are you talking about DCC file transfer ?
[21:28] <Ralesk> lordrayden: you might want to try to install linuxdcpp
[21:28] <lordrayden> napster? dont awake the dead :)
[21:28] <Ralesk> BluesKaj: I'm talking about DC++
[21:28] <BluesKaj> oh yeah , that lame thing
[21:29] <lordrayden> tnx, but no, I cant search or download with it, it's bad
[21:29] <Ralesk> according to adept, there's nothing else in the repository.
[21:29] <lordrayden> as a matter in fact 2morrow ill get rid of it if it dont work
[21:29] <Ralesk> so the only other thing I can suggest is to google.
[21:30] <lordrayden> :)
[21:30] <Ralesk> if you really want p2p and good searching capabilities, go iwht torrent and ed2k...
[21:30] <dana> lordrayden: try dcgui or rccp respectively
[21:30] <lordrayden> tnx
[21:30] <lordrayden> will do
[21:31] <slow-motion> hi
[21:31]  * dana is going for another reboot ...
[21:31] <lordrayden> apt-get or google the deb? or source? what did u find?
[21:31] <lordrayden> happy reboot dana :)
[21:31] <dana> lordrayden: apt-get install dcgui rccp
[21:31] <lordrayden> aham
[21:32] <Ralesk> lordrayden: now I searched for direct connect and it brought up the programs dana mentioned, but also "valknut" -- which is a qt/kde frontend for DC
[21:32] <Ralesk> so for kubuntu, you might want to try that
[21:32] <Ralesk> sudo apt-get install valknut
[21:33] <lordrayden> tried, no good, very korky interface, ... it's bad valknut
[21:34] <root_______> hola
[21:34] <Ralesk> ah, okay
[21:34] <lordrayden> hiya root
[21:34] <Flare183> !es
[21:34] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[21:34] <root_______> vayan a mamar todos
[21:34] <mrdigital> is the Linksys WPC11 Wifi card compat with kubuntu?
[21:34] <Flare183> mrdigital: yeap
[21:34] <jussi01> !hardware | mrdigital
[21:34] <ubotu> mrdigital: For lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport - To help debugging and improving hardware detection, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingHardwareDetection
[21:34] <Flare183> mrdigital: i know i'm using it right now
[21:35] <mrdigital> how do i install it/
[21:35]  * dana re
[21:35] <Flare183> mrdigital: it uses a broadcom firmware
[21:35] <jpatrick> nabend dana
[21:35] <bj_> I am newbie here    How do I get this to work??  Anyone help me out?
[21:36] <Flare183> bj_: what to work?
[21:36] <mrdigital> Flare183: dont help
[21:36] <jussi01> bj_: what to work?
[21:36] <dana> jpatrick: moin =)
[21:36] <bj_> getting files or listings??
[21:36] <lordrayden> how do I register on this channel?
[21:36] <jussi01> !register
[21:36] <ubotu> By default, only registered users can send private messages - Information about registering your nickname: http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#userregistration - Type « /nick <nickname> » to select your nickname.
[21:36] <Flare183> !register | lordrayden
[21:36] <ubotu> lordrayden: please see above
[21:36] <Flare183> oops sorry
[21:36] <jpatrick> Flare183: don't worry
[21:36] <jussi01> hehe
[21:36] <Ralesk> wow, ubotu is smart :)
[21:36] <Flare183> yeap
[21:36] <Ralesk> no unnecessary repeating, hehe
[21:37] <Flare183> ubotu is a bot
[21:37] <ubotu> Yes, I can confirm that I am a bot. http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots for all information.
[21:37] <Flare183> haha
[21:37] <Ralesk> Flare183: I know
[21:37] <Ralesk> oh :D
[21:37] <Ralesk> nice answer :D
[21:37] <Flare183> mrdigital: ok now you need two file
[21:37] <dana> !ask | bj_
[21:37] <ubotu> bj_: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[21:38] <Flare183> mrdigital: here you go
[21:38] <Flare183> mrdigital: http://linuxwireless.org/en/users/Drivers/b43
[21:38] <Flare183> file*
[21:38] <Flare183> oops files*
[21:38] <jpatrick> ubotu lies
[21:38] <ubotu> Mostly just statistics, but yeah.
[21:38] <Flare183> hehe
[21:40] <ghostcube> hey guys
[21:40] <ghostcube> comiong directly from kde and asking here is there any fix for kde 3.5.x adminsession bug in kcontrol ?ß
[21:41] <ghostcube> kcmshell (kdelibs): WARNING: Could not find module 'kdm'
[21:41] <ghostcube> this one
[21:42] <ghostcube> for example
[21:45] <magarelli> #gdr
[21:45] <ghostcube> ??
[21:46] <jpatrick> fermio91: with /join this time
[21:46] <martijn81> anyone been able to compile kget with the new torrent plugin
[21:46] <fermio91> what?
[21:46] <martijn81> ?
[21:46] <fermio91> ah
[21:47] <fermio91> Sorry patrick
[21:49] <martijn81> i get a weird cmake error
[21:49] <jpatrick> !paste | martijn81
[21:49] <ubotu> martijn81: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[21:50] <bis0n> Hi, there's a setting in KDE to put application menu bar at top of screen. Where is it located in config files?
[21:51] <martijn81> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/57121/
[21:52] <NickPresta> bis0n, right click on your desktop > Configure Desktop > Behavior tab > Menu Bar at Top of Screen
[21:53] <ghostcube> any ideas about the bug ?? it spread out about 2 weeks by apt-get
[21:57] <bis0n> NickPresta, I don't have full KDE at the moment but I have several KDE apps... Though someone would help with the setting in config files....
[21:58] <NickPresta> bis0n, ah okay. I don't know where you would set this setting directly. Sorry.
[22:00] <Gun_Monkey> #join wor-room
[22:01] <bis0n> NickPresta, do you know if Qt-only applications support that setting?
[22:01] <ubuntu> "hello again"
[22:01] <Gun_Monkey> If ebgames/gamestop would actually sell PC games OTHER than the sims/wow/$9 budget games, then maybe people would buy them
[22:01] <ubuntu> i got a problem
[22:02] <Gun_Monkey> oops
[22:02] <BluesKaj> Gun_Monkey, it's prolly  /join #wor-room
[22:02] <Gun_Monkey> that was a big mispost
[22:02] <Lynoure> ubuntu: More detail helps.
[22:02] <ubuntu> i just want to mount an usb-fish with the bash and it does't work
[22:02] <ubuntu> any idea??
[22:03] <Lynoure> fish?
[22:04] <BluesKaj> Gun_Monkey, or is it #war-room ?
[22:04] <Lynoure> ubuntu: I've heard of usb fish tanks, just had no idea they'd even have something to mount...
[22:04] <ubuntu> usb-stick
[22:04] <aleksanteri> ubuntu, mounting as root?
[22:05] <Schuenemann> hey, what is the driver for those who have an intel onboard video card?
[22:05] <Schuenemann> my xorg.cong says "intel", but I don't think that's right. IIRC, I had something like i810
[22:06] <ghostcube> intel
[22:06] <ghostcube> aleksanteri:
[22:06] <ubuntu> sure mounting as root
[22:06] <ghostcube> oh no
[22:06] <ghostcube> lol
[22:06] <Schuenemann> ghostcube, intel?
[22:06] <ghostcube> sure
[22:06] <aleksanteri> ghostcube, ?
[22:06] <ghostcube> sorry wrong tab lol
[22:06] <aleksanteri> ubuntu, hmmm. try $(sudo fdisk -l)
[22:06] <BluesKaj> Schuenemann, try: cat /proc/asound/cards
[22:06] <aleksanteri> (without the $() of course)
[22:06] <hola> sameone is able to help me to cofigure my webcam?
[22:07] <ghostcube> intel card is intel driver
[22:07] <ghostcube> :|
[22:07] <Schuenemann> BluesKaj, is that sound or video?
[22:07] <ubuntu> ok i see that must be explaint
[22:07] <ghostcube> Schuenemann: what are u trying to do
[22:08] <ubuntu> i have a distribution known as knoppicillin
[22:08] <Schuenemann> configure video card
[22:08] <Schuenemann> BluesKaj, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/57128/
[22:08] <ubuntu> it based on knoppix
[22:08] <ghostcube> Schuenemann: for 3d
[22:08] <BluesKaj> sorry Schuenemann, lspci | grep VGA
[22:08] <hola> sameone is able to help me to cofigure my webcam?
[22:08] <Schuenemann> ghostcube, for everything
[22:08] <ubuntu> and here i need to mount an usb-drive
[22:08] <BluesKaj> !patience | hola
[22:08] <ubotu> hola: The people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[22:08] <Schuenemann> BluesKaj, 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82845G/GL[Brookdale-G]/GE Chipset Integrated Graphics Device (rev 01)
[22:09] <Lynoure> ubuntu: so you are not at all on Kubuntu?
[22:09] <ghostcube> Schuenemann: hmm ok so intel is ure driver
[22:09] <ubuntu> yes
[22:10] <ubuntu> and thats the problem
[22:10] <Schuenemann> BluesKaj, anything interesting there?
[22:10] <BluesKaj> Schuenemann, then look for the Intel 82845G/GL video driver
[22:11] <Schuenemann> hmmm...
[22:11] <ghostcube> ehm guys the driver he needs is intel driver
[22:11] <BluesKaj> Schuenemann, it should be on their site
[22:11] <ghostcube> so what are u discussing
[22:11] <ghostcube> only set in xorg.conf intel
[22:11] <Z3U5> hi ppl new here can i get some with kubuntu installation please?
[22:11] <Z3U5> hi ppl new here can i get some help with kubuntu installation please?
[22:12] <ubuntu> i tried to: modprobe usbcore;modprobe usb-store
[22:12] <Schuenemann> BluesKaj, like tis? http://members.driverguide.com/driver/detail.php?driverid=8844
[22:12] <Lynoure> Z3U5: yes, probably, just ask?
[22:12] <ubuntu> and then i used usb-uhci and it failed
[22:12] <ghostcube> ok guys im back to compiz fusion support lol cu
[22:12] <BluesKaj> The Intel driver support site , Schuenemann
[22:12] <ubuntu> so i tried usb-ohci and again it failed
[22:13] <ubuntu> mkdir /mnt/usb-drive
[22:13] <Z3U5> ok, just downloaded gutsy gibbon amd64 dvd went almost through the install when it got stuck at 89% while removing programs for like 45 mins
[22:14] <prince_jammys> Schuenemann: you shouldn't have to download drivers
[22:14] <prince_jammys> Schuenemann: i think your card is supported with the driver "i810"
[22:14] <ubuntu> mount  -o unmask=000 -t vfat /dev/da /mnt/usb-drive
[22:15] <Lynoure> ubuntu: sorry, don't know anything specific on knoppicillin, all those should load normally in kubuntu. But that would be uhci_hcd, so do check the name of the module...
[22:15] <Schuenemann> prince_jammys, I remember I was using that driver, but now it says "intel"
[22:15] <ubuntu> here: vfat is not supported fs
[22:15] <Schuenemann> I'll change that and try
[22:16] <piquadrat> Hi. I have a little problem with access rights. I had two partitions (/home and /data), which I wanted to put together. I copied everything to a external HD with "cp -aR", deleted the two partitions, created a new one, formated it (ext3), adjusted /etc/fstab with the new UUID of the volume, copied everything back and chowned everything to my username. Nevertheless, as normal user, I can't access anything on the newly created partition. I
[22:16] <piquadrat> can access it as root without problem
[22:16] <ubuntu> sure
[22:16] <ubuntu> but to load it you must type modprobe usb-uhci
[22:16] <prince_jammys> piquadrat: can you paste the fstab line?
[22:17] <piquadrat> prince_jammys: UUID=5b600ccd-7940-455d-aa7e-e2c017fa07ee /home ext3 user_xattr,defaults,noatime,nodiratime  0 2
[22:17] <ubuntu> could you tell me how to mount usb device with ther bash
[22:17] <ubuntu> ?
[22:18] <Lynoure> ubuntu: your command looked fine, assuming you were root.
[22:18] <swatto> anyone know how i can start KDE 4 - i cant get the login window anymore if i logout it goes straight to console and i can only start KDE 3.5
[22:18] <hola> BluesKaj: ok you have right......do you know in which channel can i ask for to configure webcam?
[22:20] <ubuntu> not really my friend i just read out of magazine
[22:20] <Schuenemann> prince_jammys, still having trouble when I switch from full screen to windowed
[22:20] <Schuenemann> the image freezes and is distorted for some time
[22:21] <Z3U5> can someone plz help, i just installed mirc so i could get help with kubuntu
[22:21] <Lynoure> ubuntu: ? I guess your magazine didn't have vfat support, then =)
[22:21] <ubuntu> no jokes at all, pls
[22:21] <prince_jammys> Schuenemann: i came in late, so i don't know your problem.  but when i saw i card i remember that i had installed ubuntu on another computer with that card using i810.  i don't know the solution, but i think downloading the drivers from the web can just make a bigger mess
[22:21] <BluesKaj> hola, I don't know, sorry :(
[22:22] <Schuenemann> =/
[22:22] <martijn81> we really need a wiki page for computers that do not install perfectly with (x/k)ubuntu
[22:22] <ubuntu> they discribe a different way
[22:22] <hola> BluesKaj: ok
[22:22] <Lynoure> ubuntu: oh, I thought your comment was a reply to mine. nevermind.
[22:22] <prince_jammys> Schuenemann: did it ever work properly?
[22:22] <Schuenemann> not on gutsy, prince_jammys
[22:22] <Schuenemann> but on feisty, yes
[22:23] <BluesKaj> prince_jammys, Schuenemann ,is there a default Intel restricted driver in system settings/advanced ?
[22:23] <ubuntu> i have got a laptop and there you have to have a second cdrom
[22:23] <Schuenemann> BluesKaj, how do I know?
[22:23] <ubuntu> thats the problem
[22:23] <BluesKaj> <--ATI
[22:23] <Schuenemann> ahh
[22:23] <prince_jammys> Schuenemann: and what you've been doing is editing /etc/xorg.conf?
[22:23] <BluesKaj> Schuenemann, system settings/advanced
[22:23] <Schuenemann> BluesKaj, well, it said my system doesn't require any
[22:23] <ubuntu> so i want to copy the image to the usb-device
[22:23] <Schuenemann> prince_jammys, I just did that
[22:24] <Schuenemann> BluesKaj, my hardware, actually
[22:24] <prince_jammys> Schuenemann: have you tried ::   sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[22:24] <jussi01> !autostart
[22:24] <ubotu> To make programs autostart with your KDE session, you can make a link to it in ~/.kde/Autostart. The package 'kcontrol-autostart' makes a kcontrol item for handling items in that directory.
[22:24] <Schuenemann> prince_jammys, isn't it that command that resets everything?
[22:24] <prince_jammys> Schuenemann: yes
[22:25] <Schuenemann> hmmm... no. Should I?
[22:25] <BluesKaj> no Schuenemann it's default driver included in the install , you have to enable it in admin mode ...if it's available
[22:25] <ubuntu> ( - looking for help :( - )
[22:25] <Lynoure> ubuntu: I think I'll pass... not familiar with the distro you said you are on (knoppicillin), and it's quite late.
[22:25] <prince_jammys> Schuenemann: if you do, back up your current xorg.conf so you can revert
[22:26] <Schuenemann> BluesKaj, there's nothing available in that window... I just got an alert box saying that =/
[22:26] <Schuenemann> prince_jammys, ok
[22:26] <BluesKaj> ok
[22:26] <prince_jammys> Schuenemann: i remember one time while i was installing beryl with that card, i ended up copying someone else's from the internet.  (i googled ubuntu xorg.conf and the card name ) :)
[22:27] <Aranel> my friend said when he tries to install amarok, this message appears: "ubuntu etiketli cd yi takıp entere basın" means : "Mount the cd labelled ubuntu and press enter"
[22:27] <ubuntu> whats the normal shell command to mount an usb-device??
[22:27] <prince_jammys> Schuenemann: just remember to backup the file to prevent further headache
[22:27] <Aranel> whats this and how can he install applications without cd ?
[22:27] <Schuenemann> ok, thanks
[22:28] <Z3U5> #ubuntu
[22:28] <Schuenemann> BluesKaj, what was that command to see the card model? lspci | grep what?
[22:28] <Lynoure> ubuntu: normally they automount under kubuntu...  if they don't, sudo mount -t filesystemtype device mountmount  ought to work.
[22:28] <BluesKaj> vga
[22:29] <Schuenemann> lspci | grep vga? doesn't output anything
[22:29] <prince_jammys> piquadrat: i'm not familiar with the usr_xattr option.  i was just looking at a tutorial online where the sample fstab is /dev/hda7 /home ext3 nodev,nosuid 0 2
[22:29] <BluesKaj> Aranel, alt+F2 ,kdesu kate /etc/X11/xorg.conf , then put a # in front he line with the cdrom as a deb source ..most likely it's the first line
[22:29] <Aranel> thanks for information BluesKaj :)
[22:30] <Aranel> xorg.conf ? its interesting.
[22:30] <BluesKaj> Aranel, i hope you find the right line
[22:30] <prince_jammys> Schuenemann: do VGA or grep -i for case insensitive
[22:30] <Aranel> i hope too :)
[22:30] <Lynoure> s/mountmount/mountpoint/
[22:31] <prince_jammys> Schuenemann: that's why it didn't output anything
[22:31] <Schuenemann> 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82845G/GL[Brookdale-G]/GE Chipset Integrated Graphics Device (rev 01)
[22:31] <Schuenemann> yeah, thanks
[22:31] <BluesKaj> Aranel, you can post the text of the xorgfile in pastebin and i'll tell exactly which one it is .
[22:31] <ubuntu> sudo mount -t vfat /dev/sda/ /[place.to.mount]
[22:31] <ubuntu> is that right??
[22:31] <ubuntu> or any mistake??
[22:31] <prince_jammys> ubuntu it seems you're missing a number sda2 sdaX
[22:32] <Lynoure> ubuntu: well, depends on whether that's the type, device and mount point, but yeah.
[22:32] <prince_jammys> i could be wrong on that
[22:32] <Oloughlin75> prince_jammys: you are right :)
[22:32] <Aranel> BluesKaj: ok, if i need i'll send a message to you. thanks :)
[22:33] <prince_jammys> ubuntu:  do sudo fdisk -l    and see the /dev/sdaX  marked "vfat"
[22:33] <ubuntu> so you are thinking there is just the number missing??
[22:33] <Oloughlin75> ubuntu: you need to specify which partition on the drive to mount
[22:35] <BluesKaj> ok Aranel ,very good
[22:35] <ubuntu> there is just one partition
[22:35] <Schuenemann> prince_jammys, something that I noted with gutsy is that the monitor center differs from windoze, making me adjust the monitor settings all the time I switch OS
[22:35] <Oloughlin75> ubuntu: sda1 then
[22:35] <ubuntu> is it nassasary?
[22:35] <Oloughlin75> ubuntu: yes
[22:35] <Z3U5> can anyone help plz with kubuntu installation problem
[22:36] <hydrogen> !ask | Z3U5
[22:36] <ubotu> Z3U5: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[22:36] <prince_jammys> ubuntu do :::   sudo fdisk -l    and look for the line with FAT32
[22:36] <ubuntu> i formated it under windows to fat32
[22:37] <Z3U5> installed gutsy gibbon amd64 dvd the install got stuck at 89% while removing programs
[22:37] <prince_jammys> Schuenemann: does it actually work properly now?
[22:37] <Schuenemann> prince_jammys, nope... I have to adjust all the time
[22:38] <Schuenemann> oh wait, I haven't tried after changing the driver
[22:38] <Aranel> BluesKaj: http://sudrap.org/paste/1824/
[22:38] <Z3U5> installed gutsy gibbon amd64 dvd the install got stuck at 89% while removing programs for 45 mins didnt move after that
[22:38] <Schuenemann> prince_jammys, prince_jammys, do you know if that driver supports resolutions greater than 1024x768?
[22:38] <Oloughlin75> Schuenemann: it should
[22:39] <Oloughlin75> Schuenemann: can your screen?
[22:39] <Schuenemann> Oloughlin75, oops, I meant that video card, not driver
[22:39] <Oloughlin75> Schuenemann: most cards newer than say 10 years can
[22:39] <prince_jammys> Schuenemann: the card should, but i don't know about the driver
[22:39] <Schuenemann> Oloughlin75, well, the monitor is old, but I see that option in xorg.conf but now in systemsettings
[22:40] <Schuenemann> subsection display has Modes		"1280x1024" "1024x768" "832x624" "800x600" "720x450" "720x400" "640x480"
[22:40] <prince_jammys> Schuenemann: i remember it maxed out at 1024x768  on the installation i was telling you about.  other than that, it worked properly
[22:40] <stas> hi all
[22:40] <Lynoure> Z3U5: Can you remind me what happens before that step?
[22:40] <ubuntu> specil device /dev/sda does not exist
[22:40] <prince_jammys> Schuenemann: the other thing you want to look into is the specs of your monitor and adjust your xorg.conf
[22:40]  * regeya needs to tweak his settings; 1024x768 seems to be his current max as well
[22:40] <ubuntu> damn
[22:41] <stas> can someone help me plz?? im new in kubuntu :(
[22:41] <prince_jammys> ubuntu:    sudo fdisk -l
[22:41] <martijn81> stas: just shoot
[22:41] <Z3U5> nothing it just got stuck the comp did not habg or anything likethat
[22:41] <stas> lol
[22:41] <prince_jammys> Schuenemann: i did it all by copying other people's off the internet
[22:42] <Aranel> BluesKaj: solved. thanks :)
[22:42] <Schuenemann> prince_jammys, how many attempts?
[22:42] <Z3U5> nothing it just got stuck the comp did not hang or anything likethat
[22:42] <prince_jammys> Schuenemann: you don't want to know ... but that was mostly because of beryl
[22:42] <Lynoure> Z3U5: What was the step before that? What did it do? I don't have an installer in mid-run here, so 89% does not tell me much
[22:42] <prince_jammys> Schuenemann: actually that was only because of beryl
[22:42] <Z3U5> Lynour: enothing it just got stuck the comp did not hang or anything like that
[22:42] <stas> mart, mayb u has a minute time to help me? :)
[22:42] <Schuenemann> prince_jammys, dammit heh
[22:43]  * regeya is using compiz with an ooooold radeon 7000ve and the only thing that doesn't work well is openarena
[22:43] <Schuenemann> prince_jammys, you should've kept the file
[22:43] <regeya> well that and I don't get 3d windows with the cube view, but aside from that...
[22:43] <Z3U5> Lynoure: well it was while removing programs
[22:43] <Lynoure> Z3U5: that was the exact text it gave?
[22:44] <hola> sameone is able to help me to cofigure my webcam?
[22:44] <stas> hm... i have a really stupid problem, hat can be easyly solved by everyone who knows kubuntu well...
[22:44] <ubuntu> how i have to type the command with sudo fdisk -l?
[22:44] <regeya> o_O
[22:44] <Schuenemann> brb
[22:44] <regeya> what's UbuntuStats
[22:44] <regeya> or what was
[22:44] <Z3U5> Lynoure: removing programs and was at 89%
[22:44] <Lynoure> stas: gah, just ask :)
[22:44] <prince_jammys> ubuntu:  type it in the terminal and paste the line that says FAT32
[22:44] <ubuntu> i typed: sudo fdisk -l /dev/sda
[22:45] <martijn81> ubuntu: hit alt+F2 and  type konsole, then paste what you want
[22:45] <regeya> !ubuntustats
[22:45] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ubuntustats - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[22:45] <prince_jammys> ubuntu   no   only   "sudo fdisk -l"   nothing else
[22:45] <Lynoure> stas: don't ask people to commit to trying to mindread you, asking is so much easier for all.
[22:45] <martijn81> stas: sure, just ask, someone will know
[22:46] <stas> well, i was having a problem with adept (it was blocked by other programs) so i typed in a command i found in a forum and i dont know what it done, but now my adept works again, but doesnt show already installed packeges :( i have to do something like a scan for installed software, but dont know how...
[22:48] <stas> cause im a window$ user i dont know how to hande ubuntu (especcialy with command lines) :(
[22:48] <Lynoure> Z3U5: Sorry, I could not find a likely cause now... must be too tired :/
[22:49] <ubuntu> i am going sick, it does not work :(
[22:49] <Z3U5> Lynoure: does that make sense? can i make it anymore clear
[22:49] <prince_jammys> ubuntu what happened when you typed "sudo fdisk -l"
[22:50] <ubuntu> i am already root@ubuntu
[22:50] <Lynoure> Z3U5: if I understood right, you were doing 1st ever install of kubuntu gutsy, on 64bit system with amd64 image and it got stuck late in the install with text "removing programs"?
[22:50] <prince_jammys> ubuntu: ok what happens when you type "fdisk -l"
[22:50] <ubuntu> User ubuntu may run the following commands on this host:
[22:50] <ubuntu>     (ALL) ALL
[22:51] <prince_jammys> ubuntu  are you on a live cd?
[22:51] <ubuntu> thats right
[22:51] <Z3U5> Lynoure: ok the install went fine copying files,..., scanning CD ROM,.... then reached removing (unwanted) programs thats when it got stuck
[22:52] <regeya> y'know, I just want to point out that ubuntu's sudo settings spoiled me.  I had to set up a debian box at work with the default sudo settings :->
[22:52] <stas> noone knows a solution? :( this should really be not a big thing i thought... Oo
[22:52] <martijn81> stas: that is a strange problem, what command did you use?
[22:52] <ubuntu> and also @knoppicillin, but it was written that it is possible
[22:52] <Z3U5> Lynoure: yes first ever is correct
[22:53] <martijn81> !aptfix
[22:53] <ubotu> If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »
[22:53] <Lynoure> Z3U5: What could possibly help is the exact text of the step it got stuck with, but it's 1am, someone else might help you better now.
[22:53] <prince_jammys> stas: you have all the check boxed checked, right? (show installed, etc)  just verifying
[22:53] <Armakidon> How install compiz on kde ?
[22:53] <prince_jammys> *boxes
[22:53] <stas> martijn81: i dont know anymore :( sorry, its really stupid i know ^^ i was something described wth "...rebuilding your databse..."
[22:54] <martijn81> Armakidon: best to ask that in #compiz-fusion
[22:54] <stas> prince_jammys: well, thats the problem. for example i have amarok installed, but the package manager says amarok isnt installed, its not checked and i can check it then
[22:54] <Z3U5> Lynoure: can you tell me how to set up an internet conncetion on kubuntu
[22:55] <swatto> ohh my xorg.conf files is messed up and KDM wont start :( - would someone have a look at it for me
[22:55] <sepeck> hmmm... cleared cache... why won;t it show...
[22:55] <sepeck> wrong window
[22:55] <prince_jammys> !aptfix | stas: try closing adept and running the following command, and then reopening.
[22:55] <ubotu> stas: try closing adept and running the following command, and then reopening.: If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »
[22:55] <ubuntu> i am tiered that this is a problem, because the rest to mount a virtual drive an a boot-cd that works
[22:56] <Lynoure> Z3U5: depends on the exact nature of your problem, I don't do ndiswrapper stuff. But someone on the channel probably does.
[22:56] <ubuntu> there is just the problem of burning the cd
[22:56] <stas> ubotu: ok, ill try right now...
[22:56] <stas> prince_jammys: ok,ill try
[22:56] <Z3U5> Lynoure: thanks anyways
[22:57] <ubuntu> or puting the image to a usb-drive
[22:57] <prince_jammys> ubuntu so "fdisk -l" doesn't give you any output?
[22:58] <ubuntu> User ubuntu may run the following commands on this host:
[22:58] <ubuntu>     (ALL) ALL
[22:58] <ubuntu> that's all
[23:00] <stas> prince_jammys: hey :D lloks like it works. amarok and bluetooth obex client is now shown as installed... and many other apps as well
[23:00] <Lynoure> ubuntu: weird...  that's the output of   sudo -l  , not normally of   sudo fdisk -l
[23:00] <prince_jammys> stas: good
[23:00] <ubuntu> ok
[23:00] <stas> prince_jammys: thanks you very much :)
[23:01] <ubuntu> but were is the mistake?
[23:01] <Lynoure> ubuntu: What exactly did you type? :)
[23:01] <ubuntu> or better where is the solution
[23:01] <prince_jammys> ubuntu that's what i'm trying to find out.  if we only knew what the device is, you could mount it
[23:01] <Z3U5> can someone plz help in setting up internet connection on kubuntu, never done that b4 so i dont know how, but when i do ifconfig the only ip i could see was <IP_ADDRESS>, in windows the connection settings are as follows gateway <IP_ADDRESS>, ip <IP_ADDRESS> and also dont know where to put the dns ip, i tried to do it through network settings but guess im going wrong somewhere
[23:02] <prince_jammys> ubuntu:  are you on a console or a GUI?
[23:02] <ubuntu> i tried different
[23:02] <ubuntu> i have to work on a console
[23:02] <stas> prince_jammys: only one more lil question: if i want install new software from the internet and check the box of that app it takes like 3 minutes untill the window moves again (the notebook is loading something all the time), is this normal?
[23:02] <Lynoure> Z3U5: dns goes into  /etc/resolv.conf
[23:02] <ubuntu> cause knoppicillin just have a console
[23:03] <prince_jammys> stas: when you say from the internet you mean from adept?
[23:03] <ubuntu> an the midnightcommander
[23:03] <ubuntu> mc
[23:03] <ubuntu> thats all
[23:03] <Z3U5> Lynoure: is there a way to do all this inGUI
[23:03] <Lynoure> Z3U5: if you pastebin your current /etc/network/interfaces  I can modify it to have those settings...
[23:03] <stas> i think so. well, its software that is not on the kubuntu dvd, so i think it comes from the internet
[23:03] <prince_jammys> but you are booted from a ubuntu live cd?
[23:03] <ubuntu> no
[23:04] <prince_jammys> oh
[23:04] <stas> prince_jammys: i think so. well, its software that is not on the kubuntu dvd, so i think it comes from the internet
[23:04] <Lynoure> Z3U5: probably, but I'm much more of a commandline person, done it hundreds of time on command line, maybe once ever on gui.
[23:04] <ubuntu> in this case: yes. but not when i to prepare the burning
[23:04] <prince_jammys> stas: adept takes forever for me also, when listing all the packages.
[23:04] <ubuntu> this is just a virtual machine
[23:05]  * prince_jammys is confused
[23:05] <stas> prince_jammys: ok then. i only wonder cause i use kubuntu for first time, and its funny ^^ think will use it in the future as well. and thx for your help :) good n8
[23:05] <Z3U5> Lynoure: my kubuntu installation did not complete as you know so wont be able to provide /etc/network/interfaces, if i gave you details can you do it for me
[23:05] <prince_jammys> stas ok bye
[23:06] <stas> baba world :)
[23:06] <SpookyET> hi
[23:06] <Lynoure> Z3U5: you can browse to it with dolphin or konquer, or do    cat /etc/network/interfaces   on the commandline
[23:07] <SpookyET> kde4 is not very usable. But, I like what I see. It uses 100 megs less RAM than gnome. It uses less ram than xfce. I wonder why they are cloning compiz instead of creating a Qt4 gui for it
[23:08] <Lynoure> Z3U5: but, oh, on gui:  K-menu --> System Settings -> Network connections -> Administrator Mode   then edit away
[23:10] <prince_jammys> ubuntu :: type "which fdisk"
[23:10] <Z3U5> Lynoure: ok nice, can you tell where do i need to put which values eg: gateway, computerIP, DNS (preffered/ alternate)
[23:11] <Z3U5> Lynoure: too used to windows ...sorry
[23:12] <Lynoure> Z3U5: gateway goes to the Routes tab, IP to the 1st tab (Network interfaces), DNS to Domain Name System tab
[23:12] <Lynoure> Z3U5: click on "Configure interface" to change the ip and netmask
[23:15] <Z3U5> Lynoure: u see i did that, trying to use logic, but nothing i still got <IP_ADDRESS> on cammand ifconfig, and no connection what i did get was a network disconnected icon in the panel
[23:18] <sepeck> hmmm.... my internet connection works, I ping via cmd line, I can update via Adept... I cannot browese the web with Konquer
[23:18] <Z3U5> Lynoure: do you think it could be a problem that the network card is not getting detected, bcoz in network settings it the network interface as eth0
[23:18] <Lynoure> Z3U5: I think it only applies when you have clicked apply
[23:19] <Lynoure> Z3U5: eth0 is what the first network card normally is
[23:19] <Z3U5> Lynoure: ya i did that too, apply
[23:19] <ubuntu__> !MBR
[23:19] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[23:20] <Lynoure> Z3U5: then do   sudo ifdown eth0  and  sudo ifup eth0
[23:20] <Lynoure> Z3U5: if that does not work, you really need to pastebin the interfaces file
[23:20] <hola> sameone is able to help me to cofigure my webcam?
[23:20] <ubuntu__> Lynoure: is ifup about the same as ifconfig up?
[23:21] <sepeck> odd... FF works.  Ah well, FF it is
[23:21] <Lynoure> ubuntu__: both ifup and ifconfig are used to boss interfaces... see man ifup  and man ifconfig respectively
[23:22] <ubuntu__> ok, i was just wondering if there weren't a simple difference to them, or if they were basically the same
[23:22] <feffer> Hi all, desktop icons were lost after upgrade to Gutsy. Sys settings don't restore them. Search didn't resolve it? Any ideas?
[23:22] <Lynoure> ubuntu__: We both might have been too lazy to make 100% sure =)
[23:23] <Z3U5> Lynoure: will try that, for now i need to crash, 5 am here in india, will you be here tomorrow?
[23:23] <ubuntu__> Lynoure: perhaps. i am in the middle of trying to get wireless going on 2 pcs, having issues, and was looking for some quick enlightenment
[23:23] <feffer> After playing with settings, they popped back but didn't survive reboot
[23:24] <ubuntu__> i am using wireless on this thing (finally) running off a live CD
[23:24] <Lynoure> Z3U5: I'm pretty much always here, but quite busy tomorrow, so I might be idle. But the channel is full of helpful people
[23:24] <Lynoure> ubuntu__: I run out of enlightenment at 1am
[23:25] <Z3U5> Lynoure: thanks
[23:25] <ubuntu__> Lynoure: i am ALWAYS in short supply
[23:25] <Lynoure> ubuntu__: now here just to wrap things up before catching my zzz
[23:25] <ubuntu__> Lynoure: where are you at?
[23:25] <Lynoure> ubuntu__: Helsinki
[23:26] <ubuntu__> ahh.... linus in disguise, eh?
[23:26] <ubuntu__> i knew he used ubuntu!
[23:26] <hola> sameone is able to help me to cofigure my webcam?
[23:26] <Lynoure> ubuntu__: He is not even in Finland, I think :)
[23:26] <ubuntu__> Lynoure: i think he's in californication
[23:26] <Lynoure> hola: more detail: make, model problem, and you might be lucky
[23:27] <SpookyET>  weird. kde4 has a nice gui for desktop resize and rotate that uses xrandr. It would no go above 1280x800. I switched to gnome not restarting X and my laptop is 1680x1050 and my tv 1920x1080. hahaha
[23:27] <hola> Lynoure:  0ac8:307b Z-Star Microelectronics Corp.
[23:27] <hola> Lynoure: /dev/video it does not created
[23:28] <ubuntu__> i accidentally deleted the clock in the panel on KDE4, and for the life of me, i do not know how to get it back
[23:29] <Lynoure> hola: http://quilombo.wordpress.com/2008/02/02/zaapa-webcam-en-ubuntu-linux-710-gutsy-gibbon-2/ seems to have a step-by-step for that.
[23:29] <BluesKaj> ubuntu__, right click on the panel ..add aplet to panel
[23:30] <hola> Lynoure: i lready know that site
[23:30] <ubuntu__> Bluein KDE4 , i did not see that option
[23:30] <hola> but the problem is that the cam is not recognize
[23:30] <Lynoure> hola: and followed all the steps?
[23:30] <hola> and /devvideo is not created
[23:30] <hola> sure
[23:30] <BluesKaj> ubuntu__, ??
[23:31] <jussi01> ubuntu__: kde4 support in #kubuntu-kde4
[23:31] <Lynoure> hola: /dev/video1 or /dev/video0 ?
[23:31] <hola> both
[23:31] <hola> no /dev/video is createed
[23:31] <hola> i dont know why
[23:31] <jussi01> ubuntu__: when you get there, i can help you
[23:32] <ubuntu__> jussi: i was making a comment, but thanks for the link
[23:32] <ubuntu__> ty jussi01, i may go there in a bit
[23:33] <Lynoure> hola: that was my extent of wakefulness for now, and I have no hands-on with that cam... check  dmesg  for hints, try reconnecting the device and such.
[23:34] <ubuntu__> this is strange. i am connected to this IRC channel, but konqueror cannot connect to the net
[23:38] <hola> Lynoure: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/4932/