[09:11] <thinkl> amgad: btw, this is something that has worked since hoary on this model, so hopefully I can find what's causing the regression and report the bug. Although this is common, it's also a major bug worth getting fixed :)
[09:11] <Munchkinguy> right
[09:11] <BlindSpot> I followed the instructions to install the ATI driver but now ubuntu wont load, it says 'no screens' bla bla
[09:11] <Jeandre> Looking for cheapy laptop that'll be able to handle a couple of years' worth of new Ubuntu versions, maybe the next LTS. Would an Athlon XP-2600+ be okay or should I eat ramen for a year and get a Pentium-M 1.73?
[09:11] <AndrewCaul> What's the harm in seeing /bin and such?
[09:11] <jazzrocker> lukus001, you need to install codecs usually, and i think you may need to add your user to the optical group or something similar
[09:12] <AndrewCaul> You usually don't look at / unless there's something you want to change anyway.
[09:12] <BlindSpot> ANYONE?
[09:12] <amgad> thinkl, that's the spirit :)
[09:12] <kinjo> hey is ter any application which i can run to show wat tehupload and download speed of my connection is???
[09:12] <Jack_Sparrow> BlindSpot: What version of Ubuntu are you running?
[09:13] <lukus001> jazzrocker, I dont know what codecs i need to add to get it to work, frm what im aware ive installed all i can see.... how to i add my user to the optical group?
[09:13] <jazzrocker> lukus001, man adduser
[09:13] <Munchkinguy> ofn: actually, a better how-to can be found at http://www.misterhowto.com/index.php?category=Computers&subcategory=Video&article=make_a_screencast_with_linux
[09:13] <jazzrocker> lukus001, i don't know if it's the optical group you need
[09:13] <jazzrocker> lukus001, i don't know if that's an ubuntu thing or not... that might be from my fedora days
[09:13] <kinjo> hey is ter any application which i can run to show wat tehupload and download speed of my connection is?
[09:13] <kinjo> any1..
[09:14] <lukus001> jazzrocker ah ok - i never had to do it before in hoary so i doubt i need to then
[09:14] <someusernoob> BlindSpot: any specific errors? Try: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[09:14] <amgad> kinjo, try bwm-ng
[09:14] <BlindSpot> Dapper
[09:15] <ofn> Munchkinguy> thanks
[09:15] <BlindSpot> thanks
[09:15] <Bot_Builder> If I've got the K7 kernel, and it works fine, can i remove linux-image-386?
[09:15] <Madeye> guys, is there ubuntu-server wiki ?
[09:15] <Munchkinguy> sethk: it is true that the *contents* of /bin cannot be seen, but the folder itself is still visible in Nautilus.
[09:15] <Bot_Builder> I've messed up my ubuntu with package stuff before and i don't want to do it again
[09:16] <Bot_Builder> the main problem is it wants to remove linux-386, and there is no linux-k7
[09:16] <finalbeta> Jeez, trying to compile sensors-applet, because the repo version is ancient, but it has so many dependancies, and many are unavailable. Anyone know a repo that would hold a proper version?
[09:16] <sethk> Munchkinguy, that's true.  we could remove directory search permissions from /, but that would block everything in /, probably not what you need to do.
[09:16] <lotusleaf> Bot_Builder: sure, but if something should ever go wrong with your current kernel in upgrading or whatever, then you have nothing to revert to do you ;)
[09:16] <Bot_Builder> actually, i should probably leave it in case i want to boot the disk from a regular comp
[09:17] <jazzrocker> Bot_Builder, there's no real reason you need to remove it
[09:17] <Bot_Builder> lotusleaf: that too :)
[09:17] <jazzrocker> Bot_Builder, just change grub not to use it
[09:17] <sethk> Munchkinguy, seeing /bin is not a security issue in and of itself
[09:17] <Bot_Builder> well, i was annoiyed with the grub clutter :P
[09:17] <Bot_Builder> ohh
[09:17] <jazzrocker> Bot_Builder, comment it out
[09:17] <Munchkinguy> sethk: but for example, the folder "root" is not visible
[09:17] <voicu> Hi, does anyone know a lightweight C/C++ IDE (for KDE if possible)?
[09:17] <jazzrocker> Bot_Builder, that's kind of a silly thing to be annoyed with
[09:17] <Bot_Builder> probably
[09:17] <Munchkinguy> by default
[09:17] <jazzrocker> voicu, yeah, gvim
[09:18] <sethk> Munchkinguy, it is for me.   do this:    ls -ld /root    and tell me what it says
[09:18] <voicu> thanks
[09:18] <Bot_Builder> but you can't press 'up' to get to the end of the list (windows)
[09:18] <mcphail> voicu: IDEs are not lightweight by definition. Use vim.
[09:18] <Munchkinguy> oh, never mind. It is.
[09:18] <Bot_Builder> so i have to hit down a bunch to get to it
[09:18] <jazzrocker> voicu, mcphail++
[09:19] <voicu> mcphail, lightweight related to KDevelop or Anjuta which are too 'enterprisey' for my needs :D
[09:19] <iceman> anyone got any good screenshots of glx desktop
[09:19] <ladydoor> Munchkinguy: what exactly are you trying to do?
[09:19] <sethk> Munchkinguy, paste the output of:     ls -ld /bin
[09:19] <Munchkinguy> hide some folders for asthetic reasons
[09:19] <jbrich> I am having a problem with my Multimedia- it is constantly switching on and off, and I am failing to understand why it won't turn back on... Does anyone have any ideas?
[09:19] <lotusleaf> iceman: you mean xgl?
[09:20] <ladydoor> Munchkinguy: ok...why do you need to hang out in / anyway?
[09:20] <sethk> ladydoor, for some reason he wants non-root users to not see the /bin directory, rather than just not being able to enter the bin directory
[09:20] <ladydoor> sethk: ah. wait, i can enter /bin
[09:20] <ladydoor> sethk: without being root. ...?
[09:20] <iceman> lotusleaf yea my bag ;( lol
[09:20] <sethk> ladydoor, we changed his permissions on /bin to prevent that
[09:20] <voicu> how about a console IDE? :P
[09:21] <ladydoor> sethk: oh, i see
[09:21] <jazzrocker> voicu, vim instead of gvim
[09:21] <ladydoor> voicu: emacs?
[09:21] <sethk> ladydoor, so that works, but he wants /bin to not show up.
[09:21] <Jeandre> Looking for cheapy laptop that'll be able to handle a couple of years' worth of new Ubuntu versions, maybe the next LTS (before installing a lite distro). Would an Athlon XP-2600+ be okay or should I eat ramen for a year and get a Pentium-M 1.73?
[09:21] <lotusleaf> iceman: youtube has a number of xgl+ubuntu videos if you'd like more than screenshots, where screenshots are concerned the ubuntuforums has some links, otherwise you can google xgl ubuntu screenshots
[09:21] <mcphail> voicu: the only "advantage" i can see of kdevelop or anjuta is that they manage your makefiles. Vim is lovely; others will recommend emacs
[09:21] <jazzrocker> ladydoor, voicu: emacs is NOT lightweight
[09:21] <ladydoor> sethk: ah. i would just suggest making shortcuts to the folders in / that he actually *does* go to
[09:21] <sethk> ladydoor, Munchkinguy we could remove x permission on /, and add x permission on the subdirectories he needs, but it hardly sweems worth the effort.
[09:21] <ladydoor> jazzrocker: on a modern computer it is.
[09:21] <voicu> ok, thanks all
[09:21] <voicu> bye
[09:21] <jazzrocker> no. it's not. it's bloated as all heck.
[09:22] <vdepizzol> How can I install Synfig (http://www.synfig.com/download/)?
[09:22] <kinjo> ok thx guys fr helping me.....
[09:22] <mcphail> jazzrocker: there are stripped down versions, aren't there (?zile)
[09:22] <ladydoor> sethk: and that way he wouldn't need to *go* to /
[09:22] <Jeandre> 6.06. DVD watching (xine) is being interrupted by the screensaver - where's the saver's settings? Wasn't a problem with 5.10.
[09:22] <ladydoor> sethk: or look at the offending folders
[09:22] <iceman> i downloaded kororaa Linux to see wat the hype is about on xgl, to bad the project got closed, cant get the live cd anylonger :(
[09:22] <lotusleaf> Jeandre: try kaffeine when watching videos it simulates keypresses without disabling screensaver otherwise
[09:23] <sethk> ladydoor, yes, that's true
[09:23] <jazzrocker> mcphail, stripped down emacs is no longer emacs
[09:23] <Paddy_EIRE> anyone use a sony minidisc player in ubuntu or know what a good replacement for netmd or sonicstage is
[09:23] <jazzrocker> mcphail, and yes, i'm aware of the "light" versions of emacs
[09:23] <Munchkinguy> sethk: I probably isn't worth the effort. It's just that for some people, assorted three-letter folders that they probably wouldn't use, are kidn of daunting
[09:23] <Jeandre> Thanks lotusleaf.
[09:23] <mcphail> jazzrocker: i'll take your word. I never enjoyed emacs enough to appreciate its depths
[09:23] <lotusleaf> Jeandre: yw
[09:24] <jazzrocker> mcphail, i used emacs for 5 years before switching to vim and i'll never go back
[09:24] <sethk> Munchkinguy, ladydoor's suggestion would work, but as you said probably not worth the effotrt
[09:24] <vdepizzol> How can I install Synfig (http://www.synfig.com/download/)?
[09:24] <jazzrocker> mcphail, i in fact *tried* to go back to emacs about a year ago but the state of things was still JUST like it was when and why i left
[09:24] <sethk> mcphail, there are certain things emacs can do that vim cannot.  there is no need to use the same editor all the time, you can use them as appropriate.
[09:24] <Munchkinguy> GNOME should have some sort of "hide file" in the property diologue
[09:24] <jazzrocker> emacs os forever!
[09:25] <ladydoor> i've created a monster!
[09:25] <sethk> Munchkinguy, wouldn't be gnome, it would be nautilus
[09:25] <toxic__> Is it possible in vim, to have a short command output current line in bold ?
[09:25] <mcphail> sethk: fair enough. I'm no power user
[09:25] <erremontzo> hi boys !!!
[09:25] <jazzrocker> Munchkinguy, hidden files start with .
[09:25] <ladydoor> !offtopic
[09:25] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[09:25] <mc__> it is even possible to run vim in emacs
[09:25] <jazzrocker> toxic__, ask #vim
[09:25] <mc__> emacs is the most superior editor out there...
[09:25] <jazzrocker> mc__, now *that* would be just stupid
[09:25] <Munchkinguy> sethk: but they make nautiuls, don't they?
[09:25] <mc__> jazzrocker: why?
[09:25] <mephis1987> hello , is java netbean available for ubuntu ?
[09:25] <swift777> Any of you guys using Kubuntu (KDE) ?
[09:25] <ladydoor> i've created a monster! i'm sorry, but could this discussion be relocated to #ubuntu-offtopic?
[09:25] <mephis1987> netbeans
[09:25] <sethk> Munchkinguy, sure, I was pointing out what level the change would be required in
[09:26] <davin> Is it possible to copy / for backup?
[09:26] <mephis1987> !netbeans
[09:26] <jbrich> switf777, I do, what about it?
[09:26] <mc__> jazzrocker: maybe you want to use vim as your editor and emacs as your os
[09:26] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about netbeans - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:26] <sethk> Munchkinguy, also there are browsing programs gnome knows nothing about.
[09:26] <Lynoure> ladydoor: yes, but more on #kubuntu
[09:26] <lotusleaf> swift777: #kubuntu
[09:26] <jazzrocker> mc__, no one should use emacs as their OS... that's why we have Ubuntu
[09:26] <odla> wow firefox crashes a ton on me in dapper
[09:26] <swift777> I messed by Linux up last time i tried to install/update it
[09:26] <mcphail> yep - should be in offtopic
[09:26] <ladydoor> Lynoure: what're you talking about?
[09:26] <odla> it'll start loading a site and then take forever and crash
[09:26] <sethk> mc__, for some things, nothing can touch emacs.
[09:26] <mc__> jazzrocker: i use both
[09:26] <ompaul> !offtopic
[09:26] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[09:27] <Lynoure> ladydoor: I guess I but the wrong nick. didn't talk hell
[09:27] <mc__> sethk: for lisp programming is emacs the very best
have never had this problem with firefox on ubuntu although it crashed randomly and without explanation on Mandrake 10.1
[09:27] <superjew9020> anyone here ever hear of alltray
[09:27] <sethk> mc__, indeed.
[09:27] <dj_baggio> !ftp
[09:27] <ubotu> FTP clients: gftp, konqueror, kbear, nautilus. FTP servers: ftpd, proftpd, pure-ftpd, twoftpd, vsftpd
[09:27] <someusernoob> superjew9020: i did
[09:27] <superjew9020> do u have it
[09:28] <jbrich> Anyone know anything about multimedia malfunctions?
[09:28] <swift777> Hey can anyone tell me what is better for Steam emulation Wine or Winex?
[09:28] <jazzrocker> swift777, probably cedega is better
[09:28] <superjew9020> hellz yea
[09:28] <swift777> ok thanks ill look for it now
[09:28] <someusernoob> superjew9020: i got the .deb i think, but not installed
[09:28] <ladydoor> Lynoure: errrr...ok?
[09:28] <mc__> swift777: WineX is now named Cedega
[09:28] <jazzrocker> !cedega > swift777
[09:28] <Paddy_EIRE> anyone know what i should use for my minidisc player in ubuntu???
[09:28] <swift777> oh right (Lol)
[09:28] <ompaul> mc__ wrong
[09:28] <superjew9020> i installed it but i dont no wat to do now
[09:28] <lotusleaf> swift777: you can always ask in #cedega or #winehq
[09:28] <superjew9020> to run it
[09:28] <wims> minidisk player ?
[09:28] <wims> errr
[09:29] <mcphail> ompaul: fair enough, but it started in reply to a genuine support question
[09:29] <wims> is that a trick question?
[09:29] <odla> anyone know if sharpmusique is still being developed and maintained?
[09:29] <znh> Hello. I'd like to know if my harddisk is healty. Are there applications that can check this? Please let me know.
[09:29] <thinkl> amgad: Well, setting POST_VIDEO=true in /etc/default/acpi-support fixed the problem. It's rather curious that that wasn't necessary before but now is.
[09:29] <someusernoob> superjew9020: open the program by navigating the menu, then a cross will appear, and click on an application that you want into the tray
[09:29] <mc__> ompaul: not wrong
[09:29] <mc__> ompaul: aks wikipedia
[09:29] <sethk> znh, yes, smartctl.  the SMART mode of webmin is also excellent
[09:29] <superjew9020> navigating wat menu?
[09:29] <ompaul>  mc__ wine is not cedega
[09:29] <jazzrocker> wikipedia is not always right
[09:29] <amgad> thinkl, great.. cudos for you..
[09:29] <someusernoob> superjew9020: its in applications > accesoires
[09:29] <mc__> ompaul: wineX is cedega
[09:29] <someusernoob> superjew9020: i guess
[09:29] <ompaul> ahh
[09:29] <superjew9020> its not there
[09:30] <ompaul> still more of a not on topic set of points
[09:30] <mcphail> ompaul: cedega _was_ wine at one point
[09:30] <swift777> what would cedega be called in the Synaptic package manager?
[09:30] <znh> sethk, which package is that? apt-get install smartctl respons with not found?
[09:30] <superjew9020> nvm i screwed up
[09:30] <jazzrocker> swift777, it wouldn't
[09:30] <Hubuntu> Go get the cvs at cedega/wineX and see what you get
[09:30] <mc__> swift777: cedega is commercial
[09:30] <ompaul> mcphail, my X filter was on I did not see it :)
[09:30] <_mariux> can someone who has gnome installed here check if the gnome character selector allows searching after the names of the chars.? Like e.g. search for "sigma"
[09:30] <someusernoob> superjew9020: what version u have?
[09:30] <jazzrocker> swift777, you would go pay for it and download it from transgaming.com
[09:30] <lotusleaf> swift777: it's not there, there is a trial on cedega's website
[09:30] <mcphail> ompaul: :)
[09:30] <sethk> znh, smartctl is  a program, not a package.  I'll look for the package name, hold on
[09:30] <znh> sethk, ok. thanks :)
[09:31] <superjew9020> .69 but i got it to work i screwed up initially in bash
[09:31] <sethk> znh, package is smartmontools
[09:31] <znh> sethk, awesome. lots of thanks
[09:31] <sethk> znh, has some other stuff in there that may be useful
[09:31] <znh> sethk, for example?
[09:31] <jbrich> Does anyone know anything about Multimedia malfunctions?
[09:31] <davin> is it possible to copy / for backup?
[09:31] <langelot> INSTALL TOTEM-XINE
[09:31] <davin> I wanna tinker with Compiz
[09:32] <Hubuntu> Jbrich what do youi mean?
[09:32] <mcphail> davin: of course
[09:32] <davin> mcphail: how?
[09:32] <znh> sethk, Long (extended) offline self test failed [unsupported scsi opcode]
[09:32] <mcphail> davin: you want ot back up your _whole_ system, right?
[09:32] <RMorris84> im having a problem i cant mount a partition it says unable to mount selected volume, mount, only root can mount /dev/sda1 on /media/sda1 what do i need to do?
[09:32] <MageZ> someone uses wine to play warcraft 3?
[09:32] <ompaul> !restricted > jbrich
[09:32] <RMorris84> and why didnt it mount automatically
[09:32] <davin> mcphail: yep, on a usb harddisk
[09:33] <sethk> znh, not all drives support all commands.  you can dump the error tables that the drive maintains.  you can probably do the shorter test.
[09:33] <sethk> znh, but the accumulated error statistics are what tells you about the drive health
[09:33] <ompaul> jbrich, please read the message from ubotu it will tell you step by step how to do multimedia stuff
[09:33] <jbrich> Hubuntu, I am trying to listen to my music, and somehow, my whole multimedia setup crashes, and I can't get it to restart, after using the volume control.
[09:33] <Hubuntu> Jbruich go to www.ubuntuguide.org
[09:33] <davin> jbrich: EasyUbuntu
[09:33] <znh> sethk, how do I perform such test?
[09:33] <mcphail> davin: then probably the best way would be to create an image of your system, using the "dd" command from a live cd. That way you will get an exact snapshot which you can restore to
[09:34] <davin> mcphail: why from a live cd?
[09:34] <RMorris84> how do i mount a partition as root in the terminal?
[09:34] <Hubuntu> Try things manually first.. i have seen easybuntu do crazy things...
[09:34] <sethk> znh, I'll have to look at the man page.  look in /usr/share/doc/smartmontools for information about using it.
[09:34] <davin> RMorris84: sudo mount /dev/blabla /mount/location
[09:34] <sethk> znh, webmin has a very easy gui interface to it, if you have webmin installed
[09:34] <znh> sethk, I do not :)
[09:34] <mcphail> davin: you will get problems backing up something which is changing - some of the files and folders on a running system will change as dd works, which can give errors
[09:34] <Hubuntu> Rmorris use: sudo mount
[09:35] <RMorris84> davin: it says mount: only root can mount /dev/sda1 on /media/sda1
[09:35] <davin> mcphail: okay, so how do I use this 'dd' ?
[09:35] <davin> RMorris84: sudo
[09:35] <Hubuntu>  use sudo first
[09:35] <RMorris84> davin: sudo mount /dev/sda1 /media/sda1 ?
[09:35] <sethk> znh, the docs are pretty good.  look at them.  if you still have problems I can help you in a few minutes; I have to do something here first.
[09:35] <davin> RMorris84: yes
[09:36] <znh> sethk, ok. thank you :)
[09:36] <sethk> RMorris84, if /media/sda1 exists.
[09:36] <mcphail> davin: make sure your usb disk is formatted to whatever filesystem you prefer. Then run "sudo dd if=/your/ubuntu/partition of=/path/to/your/usb/drive/backup.img"
[09:36] <superjew9021> i forget who i was talkin to before but now when i minimize somethin to the tray with alltray i cant figure out how to bring it up again
[09:36] <davin> mcphail: if = input file and of = outpout file, correct my if im wrong?
[09:36] <mcphail> davin: correct
[09:36] <RMorris84> sethk: i just did  sudo mount /dev/sda1 /media/sda1 and i tried to goto Computer and it says 29.2g volume but i cant explore it
[09:37] <RMorris84> its a fat32
[09:37] <davin> mcphail: Okay ill try that in a minute, thanks alot!
[09:37] <mcphail> davin: reverse the process to rewstore
[09:37] <mcphail> restore
[09:37] <RMorris84> sethk: nevermind i went out and back in
[09:37] <sethk> RMorris84, you need to use   -t vfat
[09:37] <davin> mcphail: so if id want to restore id use 'sudo dd if=backup of=partition' ?
[09:37] <sethk> RMorris84, sudo mount -t vfat /dev/sda1 /media/sda1
[09:37] <Hubuntu>  use: -t vfat at the end of the mount option
[09:37] <mcphail> davin: yes
[09:37] <davin> mcphail: nifty
[09:37] <superjew9021> hello
[09:38] <superjew9021> ?
[09:38] <RMorris84> sethk: will that make it mount everytime i reboot?
[09:38] <Hubuntu> Gnome should rewcognize your usb disk once you plug it
[09:38] <sethk> RMorris84, no, not unless you add it to /etc/fstab
[09:38] <sethk> RMorris84, it's not a removable device?
[09:38] <mcphail> davin: the other way would be to copy all of the files across individually using rsync (or even plain old cp). I wouldn't recommend this for a full system
[09:38] <RMorris84> no it was my windows partition.. :) but its gone now!
[09:38] <mephis1987> hello , why did netbeans not include in ubuntu , i cant find it in synaptic ?
[09:39] <davin> mcphail: okay, what does dd stand for?
[09:39] <mcphail> davin: no idea!
[09:39] <sethk> RMorris84, you can add it to /etc/fstab to get it to mount at boot.  but if it's gone,...
[09:39] <Hubuntu> Write in at the fstab file if it is a hd you have moiunted ALL the time. A usb should NOT be in /etc/fstab
[09:39] <ompaul> !away > torchie
[09:39] <superjew9021> someusernoob are u there
[09:39] <davin> mcphail: hmm, I think its Disk Duplicate or something
[09:40] <BonBonTheJon> where are network card drivers located
[09:40] <tuxtux> ciao
[09:40] <torchie> oh, I'm not away
[09:40] <mcphail> davin: could be
[09:40] <RMorris84> Hubuntu: it is my actual drive
[09:40] <znh> superjew9020, how do you know.. they might be faking you
[09:40] <RMorris84> sethk: Hubuntu how do i edit fstab?
[09:40] <FirstStrike> !fstab
[09:40] <ubotu> The /etc/fstab file lists all drives and partitions that are mounted on the system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !partitions
[09:40] <superjew9021> wat?????
[09:40] <Hagbarddenstore> Is there a way to symlink something so that ALSA can never be busy?
[09:40] <Hubuntu> Mephis netbeans is available... i think under universe. Try googling something like: netbeans dapper repository
[09:40] <mcphail> davin: there are lots of options to dd where you can fine tune things to make it work faster etc, but the basic command will do the job
[09:40] <noob> hello...i am having a problem printing a windows server 2003 printer
[09:41] <davin> mcphail: how do I totally wipe my usb harddisk and make 1 fat32 partition?
[09:41] <Hubuntu> Use: sudo nano /et/fstab
[09:41] <superjew9021> helloooooooooooooooooo
[09:41] <Hubuntu> Be EXTREMELY cAREFUKK
[09:41] <davin> mcphail: should I try gparted?
[09:41] <FirstStrike> it's /etc/fstab
[09:41] <someusernoob> superjew9020: yes im here, i was typing an email and totally forgot about you, sorry, let me read back
[09:41] <Hubuntu> e
[09:41] <noob> HAS ANYONE PRINTED TO A WINDOWS SERVER 2003 PRINTER?
[09:41] <davin> superjew9021: wait for someone to respond, nobody is responding inmediatley, this is irc
[09:41] <superjew9021> ok
[09:41] <Hubuntu> Yeah /etc/fstab
[09:41] <davin> noob: caps
[09:41] <mcphail> davin: don't use fat32 for your backup - the image file will be too large for it to handle
[09:42] <vicscandl> noob: YES, BUT DON"T USE CAPS
[09:42] <quiet> noob: yes.
[09:42] <someusernoob> superjew9020: how did you get it into the tray? with command line?
[09:42] <davin> mcphail: no wait, ill use ext3, backing up ubuntu for windows to read is useless :P </dumb>
[09:42] <noob> vicscandl: how did you manage to do it?
[09:42] <superjew9021> no accesories >alltray
[09:42] <quiet> noob: http://localhost:631
[09:42] <noob> quiet: as sudo?
[09:42] <vicscandl> noob: attached to it thru the network
[09:42] <someusernoob> superjew9020, i used to use an older version, and i could easily get my icons out of the tray by clicking them
[09:42] <quiet> no... in firefox.
[09:42] <mcphail> davin: make sure the usb hard drive is larger than your ubuntu partition
[09:42] <gemeindeba> folks, have a good night and to all you people helping (me, among lots of others): thanks!
[09:43] <superjew9021> but there is no where to clicdk
[09:43] <noob> quiet: i know but should i run firefox as a super-user?
[09:43] <quiet> noob:
[09:43] <quiet> no.
[09:43] <davin> mcphail: yeah, im making 1 big 150gb ext3 partition on it
[09:43] <someusernoob> superjew9020: do you have a tray?
[09:43] <davin> mcphail: my ubuntu partition on my harddisk is 100gb
[09:43] <mcphail> davin: that will be fine
[09:43] <superjew9021> i dont think
[09:43] <noob> quiet: thank you
[09:43] <superjew9021> how do i add one
[09:43] <davin> mcphail: primary partition, right?
[09:43] <quiet> click on 'add a printer' ?
[09:44] <mcphail> davin: whatever you want
[09:44] <piotr_> ubuntu
[09:44] <mcphail> davin: a logical partition is fine
[09:44] <ompaul> !pl
[09:44] <ubotu> Mozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu-pl
[09:44] <quiet> noob: this is a network printer, yes?
[09:44] <someusernoob> superjew9020: right click on the panel > add to panel > search for notification arwa, and add it
[09:44] <davin> mcphail: eww error
[09:44] <someusernoob> superjew9020: notification area, it was a typo
[09:44] <quiet> don't add it as a samba printer... just add it to your machine with cups... using socket://<ip of printer>:9100
[09:45] <noob> quiet: yes it is
[09:45] <mactenchi> anyone here know ntp?
[09:45] <ompaul> someusernoob, your typing 9020 not 9021
[09:45] <davin> mcphail: I think its working now, its 'mkfs.ext3 /dev/sdf1'
[09:45] <superjew9021> cool thhks
[09:45] <noob> quiet: im a little bit confused
[09:45] <mcphail> davin: that sounds fine
[09:45] <quiet> noob: what is the model and ip address of the printer??'
[09:45] <someusernoob> ompaul: how stupid >_>
[09:45] <piotr_> W menu Gnome Aplikacje| Dodaj/Usun Programy zniklo, jak to przywrcic?
[09:45] <noob> quiet: no its connected to a windows server 2003 server
[09:45] <ompaul> someusernoob, na how typoed :)
[09:46] <quiet> noob: directly? not to a network cable?
[09:46] <vicscandl> noob: System->Administration->Printers then click 'New Printer' and follow the prompts on the screen.
[09:46] <someusernoob> ompaul: ah, he changed his name earlier...
[09:46] <noob> quiet: HP Deskjet 3740 <IP_ADDRESS>
[09:46] <davin> piotr_; polska?
[09:46] <ompaul> someusernoob, let me help
[09:46] <ladydoor> !pl > piotr_
[09:46] <miketech> Hi
[09:46] <piotr_> Tak Polska
[09:46] <noob> vicscandl: i tried that..no luck
[09:46] <davin> piotr_: #ubuntu-pl
[09:46] <quiet> noob: <IP_ADDRESS> is the server, or the printer?
[09:47] <piotr_> Yes Polska
[09:47] <quiet> noob: is the printer connected via jetdirect or usb?
[09:47] <noob> quiet: the printer is connected to the server
[09:47] <noob> quiet: usb
[09:47] <vicscandl> noob: what kind of printer?
[09:47] <quiet> oh.. ok.
[09:47] <davin> piotr_: If your only language is polish, please use #ubuntu-pl, otherwise speak english in #ubuntu
[09:47] <quiet> i don't know then..  i only do network printing.
[09:47] <noob> vicscandl: HP Deskjet 3740
[09:47] <piotr_>  W menu Gnome Aplikacje| Dodaj/Usun Programy zniklo, jak to przywrcic?
[09:47] <davin> mcphail: im gonna boot my live cd now, will go on irc there, brb!
[09:47] <vicscandl> noob is the printer shared on the *cough* windows box?
[09:48] <noob> vicscandl: yes :|
[09:48] <miketech> i wanna run windows in a vmware and use it for daily work. what hardware do you recommend me to have?
[09:48] <langelot> try wine miketech
[09:48] <quiet> miketech: i have that for my workstationat work... it's a P4 3.0 ghz HT with 1 GB RAM...
[09:48] <quiet> works fine.
[09:49] <quiet> miketech: use the vmware-server on ubuntu dapper at howtoforge
[09:49] <miketech> langelot: no this is not a solution *g* I need a windows environment (programming with windows apis)
[09:49] <miketech> howtoforge?
[09:49] <quiet> .com
[09:49] <miketech> ok :) thanks
[09:49] <miketech> and 1 GB Ram is enough?
[09:50] <sethk> miketech, emulation is a high overhead process, so give yourself a lot of memory and a lot of cpu
[09:50] <quiet> works fine for me... i only gave my windows 256 MB
[09:50] <quiet> i just turn off eyecandy
[09:50] <mcphail> langelot: windows runs reasonably well in qemu on decent hardware
[09:50] <vicscandl> noob: can you print to it from another computer on the network?
[09:50] <BonBonTheJon> if I put in a new network card, what will I have to do to install it
[09:50] <mcphail> langelot: sorry - not for you
[09:50] <sethk> miketech, for vmware plus linux, you might want to go higher than 1gig.  You can certainly run with one gig.
[09:50] <noob> vicscandl: i cant print from windows machines
[09:50] <sethk> miketech, you can try it with a gig and increase the memory if the speed is a problem
[09:50] <mcphail> miketech: i have had vmware and windows running reasonably on a 512MB 1.4PentiumM laptop
[09:50] <ompaul> !samba > noob
[09:51] <Vegeta> Does anyone know how a Digital Signatur can be installed on linux?
[09:51] <vicscandl> noob: so you can only print from the actual machine?
[09:51] <ompaul> noob read the info from ubotu
[09:51] <miketech> mcphail: and you could work with it?
[09:51] <kitn> Can someone help me?  I have a failed install and I want to at least be able to boot to my windows partition.
[09:51] <sethk> noob, it's connected to a windows server, and you can't print from windows?
[09:51] <mcphail> miketech: runs reasonably well if you switch off the eye candy
[09:51] <sethk> noob, how can you print from linux if the printer is attached to a windows server, and windows machines can't use it?
[09:51] <vicscandl> sethk: probing the same thing as me, eh?
[09:51] <quiet> i wish vmware supported sound... :\
[09:51] <vicscandl> sethk: great minds...
[09:51] <mcphail> quiet: it does
[09:51] <sethk> vicscandl, trying to figure out what's really going on.  :)
[09:52] <quiet> it does?? how?
[09:52] <kitn> I tried to run gparted but apparently it's not available in Ubuntu 5.04
[09:52] <miketech> ok, but visual studio is big software. so 1 GB should be better :)
[09:52] <Sanne> hi
[09:52] <quiet> mty windows VM has no sound.
[09:52] <Duski> kitn: insert windows cd, go to recovery mode & fdisk /mbr
[09:52] <vicscandl> sethk: sounds to me like the machine is not sharing its printer.
[09:52] <noob> sethk i can print to the printer from all windows machines on the network
[09:52] <mcphail> quiet: well, it does on workstation. Don't know about server
[09:52] <SpComb> BonBonTheJon: Plug 'n Pray, if it goes allright it should just show up as eth1 or whatever by itself
[09:52] <miketech> i mainly need it for some windows programming with VS2005
[09:52] <vicscandl> noob: you just said that you could not. which is it?
[09:52] <sethk> noob, a moment ago you said you can't.
[09:52] <sethk> the question makes a lot more sense if he can print from windows.  :)
[09:52] <vicscandl> sethk: aye.
[09:53] <kitn> Tried that, "fdisk" wasn't an available command from the repair line.  Besdes, I hadn't gotten far enough to install a boot loader, so my MBR should be fine.
[09:53] <noob> vicscandl sethk i can print from windows computers
[09:53] <miketech> maybe xen is a bit faster?
[09:53] <mcphail> miketech: 512MB - it will run, 1 Gig - fairly comfortable 2Gig - very nice
[09:53] <kitn> I just need to set the first partition as the boot partition again.
[09:53] <kc> seth... other day you suggested using ALt Install image to put together an individual package installation of ubuntu... its not working... any ideas?
[09:53] <miketech> with the newest Intel CPUs Xen should work with windows
[09:53] <searayman> i need a good dock/application launcher for gnome
[09:53] <miketech> any experiences with xen?
[09:53] <sethk> noob, did you use a user name and password that are valid for the windows server?
[09:53] <mcphail> miketech: windows won't run on xen yet without the new intel chips
[09:53] <quiet> xen is faster.. but you can only run windows under xen with a VT capable processor.
[09:54] <searayman> any good docks for gnome?
[09:54] <jerware> hi
[09:54] <mcphail> miketech: and i'm not convinced that xen is faster anyway. I have seen contradictory benchmark results
[09:54] <quiet> searayman: what's wrong with gnome-panel??
[09:54] <noob> sethk vicscandl ok..let me explain my network configuration... i have 6 computers and a server...5 of the 6 are windows boxes and one ubuntu box (mine)..all the windows computers can print to the server fine but my ubuntu machine cannot print
[09:54] <mcphail> miketech: but supporting xen supports open source
[09:54] <searayman> quiet: i want somethign that is visibly pleaseing
[09:55] <ompaul> noob, look at samba client
[09:55] <noob> sethk yes i did...i can use all the windows shares
[09:55] <quiet> searayman: gdesklets?
[09:55] <kitn> So, how can I get to a partition manager in Ubuntu 5.04 to set my NTFS partition as the boot partition?
[09:55] <FirstStrike> searayman: download some gnome themes
[09:55] <sam_> How do I make it so my Windows partition is automatically mounted when my pc starts?
[09:55] <RMorris84> sethk: in my fstab it says /dev/sda1       /media/sda1     ntfs    defaults,nls=utf8,umask=007,gid=46 0       1
[09:55] <miketech> mcphail: :) good criterion
[09:55] <RMorris84> but its not a ntfs tho
[09:55] <vicscandl> noob: and trying to setup the printer using System->Administration->Printing as a samba printer is not working?
[09:55] <quiet> sam_: add it to /etc/fstab
[09:56] <searayman> quiet: actualy i tried them and i really liek the gnome bar desklet except for one thing, there is a big white box where the notifications area is
[09:56] <sam_> how?
[09:56] <sam_> gksudo edit?(trying to workout how to edit in root
[09:56] <foo> How can I find out how much ram my system is running when idle?
[09:56] <quiet> searayman: try some other windows manager... i'm a bit partial to openbox.
[09:56] <mcphail> miketech: these things are important. In saying that, vmware produce an excellent product and have always been linux friendly. I think they even open-sourced an old version
[09:56] <Flannel> sam_: gksudo gedit, or sudo nano
[09:56] <noob> vicscandl: yes i tried via system>administration>printing but no luck
[09:56] <miketech> currently i have several computers, one for linux and one for win. wanna replace both with one notebook with linux and windows emulated. the new centrinos should work with xen and windows
[09:56] <sam_> ta
[09:56] <searayman> quiet: if there was a way to remove the notifications area and have it blue there liek the rest of the deklet then it would be fine
[09:56] <miketech> well i have never seen xen in action
[09:56] <miketech> is it similar to vmware?
[09:56] <searayman> quiet:  whats openbox?
[09:57] <miketech> with a gui?
[09:57] <kitn> Because until I can boot to windows, I can't download a more recent version of anything.
[09:57] <Eclypse> hey all
[09:57] <RMorris84> im having trouble mounting a partition into ubuntu...
[09:57] <lotusleaf> foo: cat /proc meminfo
[09:57] <lotusleaf> foo: cat /proc/meminfo
[09:57] <quiet> searayman: a very minimal window manager..
[09:57] <Eclypse> ladydoor, it seems to have worked QUITE well, but it was missing files so I would like to know if there is a way to make it so it decompresses accurately 100%
[09:57] <Eclypse> ladydoor, is there any way to make sure of this?
[09:57] <mcphail> miketech: there was no gui when i last tried it, but things may well have moved on since then
[09:57] <vicscandl> searayman: there is also fluxbox
[09:57] <BoAi> help me please~~max_directory=`echo $MAX_DIR | sed -e 's&\\\&/&g'`    at here how to change the variable of  $MAX_DIR
[09:57] <searayman> quiet:  is it possible to remove the notifications area?
[09:57] <ladydoor> Eclypse: bunzip2 itself doesn't usually cause that kind of problem; it's probably an error on the end of whomever compressed it
[09:58] <Eclypse> ladydoor, well is there any way to get the most accurate? just in case you know?
[09:58] <Paddy_EIRE> has anyone had any success in getting a Sony Minidisc Walkman working in ubuntu
[09:58] <ladydoor> Eclypse: i don't know...i think that the accuracy question is mostly on the end of the compressor
[09:58] <miketech> ok i should give it a try then
[09:58] <Eclypse> Ladydoor, ok lol
[09:58] <BoAi> please some people help me help me please~~max_directory=`echo $MAX_DIR | sed -e 's&\\\&/&g'`    at here how to change the variable of  $MAX_DIR
[09:59] <RMorris84> hey guys i just deleted my windows partition, and made it a fat32 it shows up alright, but its no mounted and when i mount it i cant write files to it.. and its not mounted when i boot up...
[09:59] <searayman> quiet:  ca i edit the code somehow and make it not yse the gnome notification in the gdesklet
[09:59] <Eclypse> Ladydoor, I'll try some more
[09:59] <mcphail> BoAi: don't repeat so often, and think carefully about how you phrase the question
[09:59] <ladydoor> Eclypse: :-(
[09:59] <Lirik> alguien habla espaol?
[09:59] <ladydoor> Eclypse: sorry. you could read the manual i guess
[09:59] <ladydoor> !es
[09:59] <Flannel> !es
[09:59] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[09:59] <davin> mcphail: you there?
[09:59] <BoAi> im sorry
[09:59] <searayman> Lirik: un poco
[09:59] <mcphail> davin: still here for the moment
[09:59] <BoAi> i cant speak english well
[09:59] <Lirik> ok
[10:00] <ladydoor> BoAi: there are native language support channels
[10:00] <vicscandl> BoAi: neither can I. ;)
[10:00] <davin> mcphail: im unable to mount my ubuntu partition (sda3)
[10:00] <killown> I not foud gcc what I do?
[10:00] <mcphail> BoAi: neither can I, and it is my first language :)
[10:00] <swift777> Does anyone know how i could learn Spanish (Without paying or going to a school)?
[10:00] <BoAi> ??
[10:00] <LinuxHelp> Does anybody know of an ftp client that can do recursive file searching?
[10:00] <BoAi> i know
[10:00] <mcphail> davin: you don't need to mount it
[10:00] <MenZa> !offtopic > swift777
[10:00] <Flannel> !tell killown about build-essential
[10:00] <BoAi>  just find some artcle and read it
[10:00] <searayman> quiet: ?
[10:01] <davin> mcphail: well its unable to mount
[10:01] <kitn> Never mind, cfdisk seems to work.
[10:01] <kitn> Thanks!
[10:01] <BoAi> best way is find a spanish girlfirend
[10:01] <mcphail> davin: you don't need to mount it to copy it
[10:01] <davin> mcphail: it didnt auto-mount, and it says inaccesable at System > Administration > Disks
[10:01] <davin> mcphail: oh really?
[10:01] <BoAi> i just~
[10:01] <LightTitan> how do I uninstall wine?
[10:01] <mcphail> davin: although, it would be sensible to find out what disk problem you are having
[10:01] <davin> mcphail: but /dev/sda3 isnt a place, is it?
[10:02] <vicscandl> noob: sorry man, i'm at a loss. what shows up if you nmap that winboxen?
[10:02] <rambo3> http://xkcd.com/c149.html
[10:02] <mcphail> davin: does /dev/sda3 exist?
[10:02] <LightTitan> I did not install it through synamtic. I did a manual install from a patched wine.
[10:02] <Complexity> can somebody point me to a link instructing me how to set up a dual boot of XP and Ubuntu?
[10:02] <Flannel> LightTitan: then delete the files
[10:02] <davin> mcphail: yes, it says so at the gnome disks manager
[10:02] <Flannel> !tell Complexity about dualboot
[10:02] <killown> I want install gcc base
[10:02] <mcphail> davin: then that is fine. dd can copy the device
[10:02] <`Lam> i have a headset with its own internal sound card attachment, thus acting as a second sound device, but whenever i switch to my headset from my default sound card, things like Totem or MPlayer still play from the default sound card until i restart the computer.  is there a way to fix that without restarting the computer?
[10:03] <Flannel> killown: install build-essential
[10:03] <LightTitan> Flannel, what exactly do you mean by delete the files....
[10:03] <killown> Flannel ok thanks
[10:03] <davin> mcphail: sudo dd if=/dev/sda3/ /media/usbdisk/backup' ?
[10:03] <davin> mcphail: i mkdir'ed 'backup' on the usbdisk
[10:03] <mcphail> davin: /media/usbdisk/backup/filename
[10:03] <Flannel> LightTitan: manually delete all the files you installed when you installed wine, unless you compiled it and there's a make [remove/clean/whatever]  option, or installed it through dpkg
[10:03] <wims> !lamp
[10:03] <ubotu> lamp is a shortcut for Linux-Apache-Mysql-{PHP,Perl,Python}. To setup a LAMP server on Ubuntu, install the packages libapache2-mod-php5, php5-mysql, and mysql-server-5.0. You can also choose 'install a LAMP server' from the server install cd boot menu. See also https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP
[10:04] <BoAi> echo $MAX_DIR | sed -e 's&\\\&/&g'`  see this~  the max place must be 3dsmax dir~ but i dont know where to change that~~~
[10:04] <BoAi> understand my mean?
[10:04] <davin> mcphail: what do you mean by filename? it backs up to a file?
[10:04] <mcphail> davin: yes
[10:04] <Complexity> can somebody point me to a link instructing me how to set up a dual boot of XP and Ubuntu?
[10:04] <LightTitan> I compiled my own wine... so what command do I use to remove it?
[10:04] <davin> mcphail: no file extension, am i right?
[10:04] <Flannel> Complexity: ubotu sent you a link
[10:04] <mcphail> davin: you are creating an image file of the whole partition
[10:04] <davin> mcphail: I get it
[10:04] <mcphail> davin: you can give it any extension you want. Linux doesn't care about these things
[10:05] <jrib> BoAi: no, can you elaborate?
[10:05] <LOL> how do i access my harddrive through the livecd?
[10:05] <davin> mcphail: okay lemme try this
[10:05] <jrib> LOL: system > administration > disks
[10:05] <Complexity> ahh thanx
[10:05] <BoAi> ok i make a post
[10:05] <mcphail> davin: i would usually call it backup.img, to remind _me_ what sort of file it is
[10:05] <BoAi> thanks advance
[10:05] <Flannel> LightTitan: check the makefile for a make remove or something, something that deletes all the files.  Otherwise you'll just have to manually track and delete them
[10:05] <mcphail> davin: be prepared for a long wait as it backs up
[10:06] <LOL> jrib i need access to the files
[10:06] <jrib> LOL: what filesystem?
[10:06] <RMorris84> im having trouble with mounting a partition in ubuntu...  it shows up but it isnt mounting correctly i looked at the fstab and it says its a ntfs and i formatted it with fat32, and its not letting me write files to it... what am i doing wrong
[10:06] <LOL> i think ext3 jrib
[10:06] <davin> mcphail: dd: unrecognized operand '/media/usbdisk/backup'
[10:06] <ladydoor> LightTitan: sudo make uninstall will uninstall it
[10:06] <davin> mcphail: sorry, forgot the filename
[10:07] <davin> mcphail: hmm still says so
[10:07] <killown> I want to put "sudo gnome-terminal" in icon launch application but it not works
[10:07] <mikeconcepts> request help with dual monitor setup, have nvidia gforce 5200 FX and have already did some of what's required
[10:07] <mcphail> davin: what _exactly_ did you type
[10:07] <jrib> LOL: well using system > administration > disks, should let you mount it.  You can use 'gksudo nautilus' to have root permissions using nautilus in case the permissions on the files don't let your regular user access them
[10:07] <davin> mcphail: 'sudo dd if=/dev/sda3/ /media/usbdisk/backup/image/'
[10:07] <noob> ok vicscandl...i dont know if this is of any use..but when i smbclient -L the server  i get the printer share
[10:07] <LightTitan> Flannel and Ladydoor, thank you.. I did find that file and used the make uninstall command. It worked, thanks.
[10:07] <mcphail> davin: you missed the of=
[10:07] <davin> mcphail: forgot of= :)
[10:07] <ladydoor> killown: you need to make that gksudo
[10:07] <davin> mcphail: hehe
[10:07] <mcphail> davin: :)
[10:08] <ladydoor> LightTitan: np
[10:08] <erik_> Is there any advantage in having a swap partition ?
[10:08] <LOL> jrib the disks program just lets me view its properties (such as how big it is) but not access the dirs and such
[10:08] <davin> mcphail: dd: opening `/dev/sda3/`: not a directory
[10:08] <vicscandl> noob: try using smbclient to connect to the printer share.
[10:08] <davin> mcphail: I think it needs to be mounted, as dev/sda3 is a file
[10:08] <killown> ok
[10:08] <vicscandl> noob: if that works, then i don't see why setting it up in the administration won't work.
[10:08] <noob> vicscandl please advise as to how to do that
[10:08] <mcphail> davin: _everything_ is a file
[10:08] <Flannel> erik_: swap partitions give you 'more' ram
[10:09] <jrib> LOL: is there a "partitions" tab you can click on?
[10:09] <vicscandl> noob: lemme go check the man page
[10:09] <davin> mcphail: hmmhmm
[10:09] <mcphail> davin: check to see if /dev/sda3 exists
[10:09] <mcphail> davin: the livecd may have called your disk something different
[10:09] <kerwonz> hi, when gnome 2.4.16 release?
[10:09] <erik_> Flannel: Well I know what swap is, but isn't linux 2.6 capable of swapping to file like windows ?
[10:09] <LOL> jrib yes, it says inaccsible
[10:09] <kyja> 916 users @ freenode atm
[10:09] <killown> ladydoor but I don't want popup
[10:10] <kyja> bla
[10:10] <davin> mcphail: Device: /dev/sda3 | Filesystem: Extended 3 | Size: 97.92 GB
[10:10] <davin> mcphail: Its not active
[10:10] <vicscandl> noob: smbclient //<server>/<printershare>
[10:10] <jrib> kerwonz: http://www.gnome.org/start/2.16/
[10:10] <davin> mcphail: and am not able to mount/set it active
[10:10] <mcphail> davin: try removing the slash after /dev/sda3 in your dd command
[10:10] <vicscandl> noob: i think... been a while since i have used smbclient CLI mode. ;)
[10:10] <noob> vicscandl lol
[10:10] <ladydoor> killown: what were you expecting? if you want to use sudo/gksudo, you need to be prompted for your password for it to do anything
[10:11] <jrib> LOL: create a directory for the "Access Path" and then enable it
[10:11] <davin> mcphail: that did the trick
[10:11] <Duski> can someone help me with this
[10:11] <Duski> [R200Setup]  X version mismatch - detected X.org <IP_ADDRESS>, required X.org 7.0.-1.8
[10:11] <Duski> (II) UnloadModule: "fglrx"
[10:11] <vicscandl> noob: have not run a windows machine (for myself) for over 2 years now.. :'P
[10:11] <mcphail> davin: thought it would
[10:11] <killown> ladydoor nopasswd
[10:11] <noob> vicscandl: ok...i get a smb: \> prompt
[10:11] <davin> mcphail: now I hear my harddrives rattling and a flashing square, guess ill have to go grab a beer and wait ;-)
[10:11] <mcphail> davin: go and get yourself a beer. This will take a lot of time
[10:12] <mcphail> davin: lol
[10:12] <noob> vicscandl thaats where i want to be..100% ubuntu
[10:12] <vicscandl> noob: ok, so you can connect to it, type quit
[10:12] <ladydoor> killown: ah. something of a bad idea when opening a root console
[10:12] <davin> mcphai: heheh
[10:12] <Sanne> erik_: here's something about a swap file, point 6: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SwapFaq
[10:12] <davin> mcphail: cheers mate
[10:12] <BoAi> http://boai.awardspace.com/viewtopic.php?p=17  hi~~  i make it fully post~~
[10:12] <kerwonz> jrib, but the ubuntu packages?
[10:12] <Elcy> hi
[10:12] <tuxtux> reboot
[10:12] <jrib> kerwonz: I am guessing that it will be in edgy
[10:12] <davin> mcphail: so when its done ill be able to control the shell again?
[10:12] <BoAi> so~ just take a look~ give me a little help please
[10:12] <jrib> !edgy
[10:12] <ubotu> edgy is the current development version of Ubuntu. Version 6.10, codename "Edgy Eft". For support head to #ubuntu+1. For its release schedule, see !schedule
[10:12] <mcphail> davin: yes
[10:12] <noob> vicscandl how come that means i cant connect to it?
[10:12] <kerwonz> jrib, edgy, what's that
[10:13] <mcphail> davin: you can ask dd for a progress report
[10:13] <BoAi> jrib:  see my post~ please
[10:13] <davin> mcphail: good, off to the fridge!
[10:13] <erik_> Sanne: thanks
[10:13] <Tonren> Who knows how to set up a Keyspan USB-to-SErial converter?
[10:13] <vicscandl> noob: no, you can... ok now bring up the add a printer dialog again, and i'll walk you thru it...
[10:13] <Sanne> erik_: you_re welcome :)
[10:13] <LOL> where would the firefox bookmarks be installed?
[10:13] <vicscandl> noob: note the server and printer share name you used before.
[10:14] <hetao> is there anybody know something about IFS??
[10:14] <noob> vicscandl firing up the add printer dialog now
[10:14] <noob> vicscandl..ok ready
[10:14] <kendrick> hello! i'm trying to add an external USB drive to a (headless) kubuntu-based server i've got running here
[10:14] <vicscandl> noob: Network printer, change to 'Windows printer'
[10:14] <kendrick> i'm not sure what modules and daemons i need to get running on it to make that happen
[10:14] <ofn> how can i make gnome use windows shortcuts like super-d (show desktop) super-e (open home folder)
[10:14] <jrib> BoAi: I'm not sure what your question is.  Are you wondering where $MAX_DIR comes from?
[10:15] <vicscandl> noob: server name into host, printer share into printer, username and password if you need that.
[10:15] <kendrick> fwiw, i had it running fine on a kubuntu desktop (which still has a USB-based CF card reader attached, which works)
[10:15] <davin> ofn: youd have to create scripts in /usr/bin
[10:15] <BoAi> yes
[10:15] <hetao> is there anybody know something about IFS??
[10:15] <davin> ofn: and if you want set keyboard hotkeys using gconf-editor in metacity
[10:15] <BoAi>  i just wonder where it from
[10:15] <cvt> why can't i burn cd's from files on an external hd?
[10:15] <RMorris84> ok im having trouble with reformatting a partition and then getting it to mount correctly after the fact.. can someone walk me through the correct way to do it
[10:15] <noob> vicscandl it prompts me to authenticate on the domain
[10:15] <ofn> davin: i'm using compiz...
[10:15] <vicscandl> noob: username and pasword
[10:15] <jrib> ofn: it's a bit involved, you have to edit the gconf keys and use <mod4> as the modifier key (that is what the 'xmodmap' command tells me to use for Super_L which is the windows key)
[10:15] <vicscandl> noob: fill them in?
[10:15] <noob> vicscandl authenticated
[10:15] <davin> ofz: what exactly are you trying to do?
[10:16] <davin> ofz: you want to make terminal commands for gnome?
[10:16] <vicscandl> noob: so it worked then?
[10:16] <Vegeta> What is "Linux RPM"? I want to download Java and there is for Linux and for Linux RPM, what is the difference? I'm using Ubuntu, should I choose the one with linux only?
[10:16] <ladydoor> jrib: you could always use xbindkeys, which are easier to set up than the gconf editor...
[10:16] <HesNikke> alright, i've got 2 networking problems that i suspect might be related
[10:16] <Elcy> jadi bingung
[10:16] <HesNikke> first
[10:16] <Duski> can someone help me "X version mismatch - detected X.org <IP_ADDRESS>, required X.org 7.0.-1.8" ?
[10:16] <BoAi> jrib:  the max mean 3ds max~  i need to edit its path~ but dont know how to
[10:17] <swift777> whats the copy command for the Linux Terminal ?
[10:17] <ofn> davin: nah... i want to change gnome shortcut keys
[10:17] <noob> vicscandl: we are about to find out
[10:17] <kendrick> Vegeta: RPM is a package format used by RedHat and some other distros
[10:17] <LOL> where are my bookmarks from firefox located?
[10:17] <RMorris84> ok im having trouble with reformatting a partition and then getting it to mount correctly after the fact.. can someone walk me through the correct way to do it
[10:17] <kendrick> Ubuntu uses DEB, the Debian package format
[10:17] <davin> ofz: on your keyboard?
[10:17] <ladydoor> swift777: cp filetobecopied destination
[10:17] <ofn> yup
[10:17] <kendrick> if you cannot find a DEB package, you may need to run "alien" on the RPM to convert it into a DEB.
[10:17] <swift777> ladydoor: thanks
[10:17] <Elcy> jadi bingung
[10:17] <kendrick> or if they have sourcecode available (e.g., in a ".tar.gz" file), download and compile it
[10:17] <hetao> is there anybody know something about IFS??i wanta some help about to write a folder encrypt application and i have many questions to slove!
[10:17] <jrib> ladydoor: true
[10:17] <ladydoor> swift777: and if you're copying multiple files to one dir, you could do cp file1 file2 file3 dir
[10:17] <Vegeta> kendrick: So I should choose "Linux" and NOT "Linux RPM"?
[10:17] <noob> vicscandl: no dice :| it says "printing" and then says "paused
[10:17] <HesNikke> no matter how i tweek /etc/hdcp3/dhclient.conf whenever it renews my IP addresses, it screws with my DNS settings and INSISTS on using my router as DNS rather than a real DNS server that actually works
[10:17] <Elazar> Is there a way to check for packages that aren't dependencies of other packages and/or haven't been used recently?
[10:18] <HesNikke> any ideas?
[10:18] <Eclypse> hey ladydoor, is there a difference between bz and bz2 compression?
[10:18] <jrib> BoAi: it's not really possible to tell what sets MAX_DIR, does 'echo $MAX_DIR' in your terminal give you output now?
[10:18] <kendrick> Vegeta: depends on what they (whoever it is) says the "linux" download is
[10:18] <kendrick> you may want to ask them (Sun?)
[10:18] <ladydoor> Eclypse: bz2 is more recent/advanced...
[10:18] <jumbers> I'd like to know if I'm just retarded or if this is a true problem. Is audio out of sync with video in Flash on Ubuntu?
[10:18] <bluefusionxl> How is everyone?  I hate that Ubuntuguide turned into a Wiki.. it sucks big tennisballs
[10:18] <vicscandl> noob: give it a few, perhaps the printer is warming up?
[10:18] <davin> im actually using irssi now on the live cd :P too lazy to setup gaim for irc
[10:18] <Eclypse> ladydoor, I think its possible that the .dmg may be compressed in regular bz
[10:18] <hetao> is there anybody know something about IFS??i wanta some help about to write a folder encrypt win32 application and i have many questions to slove!
[10:18] <ladydoor> Eclypse: oh...weird
[10:18] <Sanne> Vegeta: java is in the ubuntu repositories
[10:18] <bluefusionxl> I am installing Breezy right now, and I'm going to upgrade it to dapper using apt
[10:18] <noob> vicscandl this printer is always online
[10:18] <Eclypse> ladydoor, you think I would need a differnet program for that?
[10:19] <killown> exact error that occured. This usually means GLIB is incorrectly installed.
[10:19] <Eclypse> ladydoor, because it seems to be inconsistant in the decompressed image.
[10:19] <killown> configure: error: "Cannot find glib"
[10:19] <HesNikke> alright, 2nd
[10:19] <BoAi> jrib: sorry im nor sure~ seen like it give me null
[10:19] <killown> What I do?
[10:19] <Eclypse> ladydoor, its really odd, I think it should be 4.43GB or something, but its only 3.4
[10:19] <bluefusionxl> type apt-get install glib
[10:19] <bluefusionxl> :P
[10:19] <davin> mcphail: id have to say, this irc channel totally outnumbers microsofts phoneline, but thats just my opinion
[10:19] <HesNikke> i havn't looked into timing yet, but IP networking likes to die on a regular basis
[10:19] <HesNikke> and then it comes back on it's own a bit later
[10:19] <ladydoor> Eclypse: i don't know
[10:19] <killown> E: glib package not found
[10:19] <bluefusionxl> If I am installing ubuntu server, will I still get apt?
[10:19] <Vegeta> Sanne: Ok thank you :)
[10:19] <erik_> the same mounted 'windows drive' shows up twice on my desktop.. as its "windows label" and as "/media/device" using current edgy..
[10:20] <vicscandl> noob: sorry then, this is the extent of my knowledge/capability then
[10:20] <mcphail> davin: microsoft are never keen to answer questions about ubuntu ;p
[10:20] <Sanne> Vegeta: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java
[10:20] <HesNikke> i CAN say that it happens more often than the IP lease renews
[10:20] <killown> bluefusionxl, not found glib package
[10:20] <ladydoor> davin: irssi's better anyway, for irc, since it's specifically designed for it and isn't an x application
[10:20] <BoAi> i think when it cant find anything it just give me nothing(null)
[10:20] <bluefusionxl> kill, let me try to find what is wrong
[10:20] <noob> vicscandl: im going to send you a screen shot
[10:20] <hetao> is there anybody know something about IFS??i wanta some help about to write a folder encrypt win32 application and i have many questions to slove!
[10:20] <HesNikke> SMB networking works just fine
[10:20] <vicscandl> noob: you may want to try printing something from windows to see that the printer is able to print? (perhaps there is a more general error?)
[10:21] <mookid> I've mounted my windows partition but I can only access the folder it's mounted to as root - does anyone know why and how i can fix this?
[10:21] <Eclypse> does anyone know of any programs other then bzip2 that can decompress .dmg.bz files?
[10:21] <HesNikke> *blink*
[10:21] <bluefusionxl> Glib is the basis of Gtk.  Try sudo apt-get install gtk, kill
[10:21] <HesNikke> ok, IP networking isn't completely dead, it just let me ssh into the box
[10:21] <jared777> is there anyway when using kismet to keep it from disabling the rest of my internet connection so i can keep chatting and browsing the web?
[10:21] <noob> vicscandl: i'll try now
[10:21] <vicscandl> jared777: get 2 wifi cards. ;)
[10:22] <killown> package gtk not found bluefusionxl
[10:22] <bluefusionxl> im gonn eat.. brb
[10:22] <jrib> BoAi: well I am not sure what your goal is, but why can't you directly edit the script and change it to what you want?
[10:22] <jared777> thought you would say that :)
[10:22] <bluefusionxl> kill, I believe your apt-get sources are mewssed up then.  Go to ubuntu.nl/source--matic and get some more sources
[10:22] <jared777> might have to try ndiswrapper and get my built in one to work
[10:22] <BoAi> join #ubunto-tw
[10:23] <BoAi> ~~ my bad
[10:23] <vicscandl> noob: where you sending that screenshot to?
[10:23] <noob> vicscandl: to u
[10:23] <mooky> evening channel
[10:23] <IMEC> how can i import the correct mit-magic-cookie for root automatically, instead of doing it by hand every time i restart x-server?
[10:23] <vicscandl> noob: but where? pastebin?
[10:23] <HesNikke> so nobody has any ideas?
[10:24] <HesNikke> i feel like i'm being ignored here
[10:24] <cvt> how do i give permission to k3b to access my external hd and my external dvd burner?
[10:24] <Eclypse> does anyone know of any programs other then bzip2 that can decompress .dmg.bz files?
[10:24] <mc__> HesNikke: be patient
[10:24] <noob> vicscandl: i have no idea
[10:24] <noob> vicscandl: im a newbie
[10:24] <`Lam> i have a headset with its own internal sound card attachment, thus acting as a second sound device, but whenever i switch to my headset from my default sound card, things like Totem or MPlayer still play from the default sound card until i restart the computer.  is there a way to fix that without restarting the computer?
[10:24] <ladydoor> HesNikke: if nobody knows, nobody will help you. it's not "ignoring"
[10:24] <davin> how do I scroll up in isrssi? (terminal
[10:24] <HesNikke> lol
[10:25] <Flannel> davin: pageup
[10:25] <HesNikke> fine, it'd be nice if i got an i dunno or 2 :P
[10:25] <`Lam> :'(
[10:25] <vicscandl> noob: so how are you going to 'send it to me'?
[10:25] <davin> Flannel: Cheers :-)
[10:25] <BoAi> jrib: i was think bot that~ but im use a small system~  if i edit here then i afraid somehere will more bad~~ and out of i can control
[10:25] <mc__> HesNikke: everyone who says nothing means "dunno"
[10:25] <noob> vicscandl: by clicking your name and clicking "send file" (im using xchat)
[10:25] <mookid> I've mounted my windows partition but I can only access the folder it's mounted to as root - does anyone know why and how i can fix this?
[10:25] <vicscandl> HesNikke: was not following you, gimme a minute to backscroll..
[10:25] <jared777> what programs can't i use with ndiswrapper? just stuff like kismet and threal?
[10:25] <BoAi> could i pack the system and please you have a look?
[10:25] <davin> mcphail: hehe no I meant that when you call them they dont wanna go very in-depth, while here you guys are really helping people
[10:25] <vicscandl> noob: but I am not, so I will never see the file.
[10:26] <Flannel> mookid: change the umask in your fstab
[10:26] <noob> vicscandl: so how do i send it to u?
[10:26] <jrib> BoAi: try this and then run it again:   export MAX_DIR=what_you_want
[10:26] <BoAi> ok
[10:26] <vicscandl> !pastebin > vicscandl
[10:26] <mookid> Flannel: where abouts is fstab i forgot
[10:26] <killown> what repository has glibc?
[10:26] <BoAi> ^_^
[10:26] <kendrick> hrm
[10:26] <enrique> exit
[10:27] <vicscandl> !pastebin > noob
[10:27] <kendrick> i see in my /var/log/messages:  Driver 'sd' needs updating - please use bus_type methods
[10:27] <vicscandl> that will tell you
[10:27] <Flannel> mookid: /etc/fstab
[10:27] <mookid> k
[10:27] <Flannel> killown: main
[10:27] <Flannel> killown: if you install build-essential, it should grab all that stuff
[10:28] <vicscandl> noob
[10:28] <vicscandl> noob: so were you able to print right now with one of the winboxen on your network?
[10:28] <killown> Flannel but I yet installed it
[10:29] <aluno> aluno
[10:29] <aluno> aluno
[10:29] <Sanne> mookid: here's some info on umask and fstab: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VolumePermissions
[10:30] <vicscandl> HesNikke: your wifi is dropping at random intervals?
[10:30] <HesNikke> nope
[10:30] <HesNikke> other computers on that node are working just fine
[10:30] <vicscandl> HesNikke: your wired is dropping?
[10:30] <HesNikke> Samba networking is working just fine
[10:31] <mookid> ty
[10:31] <HesNikke> it's starting to look like my ip traffic is being dropped at the router O_o
[10:31] <HesNikke> but only for my ubunutu box
[10:32] <HesNikke> i'm gonna reboot it
[10:32] <vdepizzol> How can I install Synfig (http://www.synfig.com/download/)?
[10:32] <HesNikke> especially since my video mode for consol just got screwed up O_o
[10:32] <noob> vicscandl: yes i can successfully print from a windows box
[10:33] <mortal5> where can i find vim/xvim 7 for ubuntu?
[10:33] <vicscandl> noob: can you check the settings on one of the winboxen how its printer is setup (not the one that the printer is connected to)
[10:33] <killown> I not found glib in apt-get repositories
[10:33] <Shak-> is there an ubuntu client that allows you to connect to a windows machine running remote desktop?
[10:34] <lotusleaf> mortal5: have you tried compiling it?
[10:34] <Rich43> Shak-, yes, have you looked at the package manager?
[10:35] <noob> vicscandl: well...im not great on ubuntu but i know that all the windows boxes first authenticate on the domain and then hav full access to printing
[10:35] <HesNikke> rebooting didn't fix it
[10:35] <mortal5> lotusleaf, this is ubuntu, you shouldn't have to compile a major package like vim
[10:35] <erik_> i get double icons on my desktop, its a windows drive shown as: both /media/hda1 and windows .. both 'links' point to the same drive
[10:35] <HesNikke> i hate 2wire
[10:35] <vicscandl> noob: trying to find out if the winboxe are using SMB or if they are using something else..
[10:36] <Vegeta> Sanne: The Java package doesn't exist on "Add/Remove Programs" :S
[10:36] <Shak-> Rich43 yes, im aware there is one that allows ubuntu -> ubuntu connections or windows -> ubuntu, but I havent seen anything that allows ubuntu -> windows
[10:36] <noob> vicscandl: and how could i find that out?
[10:36] <Deeah> What package do I need to install from edgy(X7.1) to have 3d acceleration? I have an ati 9100, and I'm using the "ati" driver by default when I installed dapper. But I'm missing some package(module?) for 3d stuff
[10:37] <lotusleaf> mortal5: yes, but it doesn't hurt to ask :) You might ask on the Ubuntu Forums if anyone knows where a .deb may be for that app and version if you don't find your question answered here
[10:37] <vicscandl> noob: check the settings for the printer on one of the networked winboxen, not the one that has the printer attachd to it.
[10:37] <crashd> anyone know why cinepaint wont install properly on a64 dapper? :\
[10:37] <BoAi> i upload the system~ could someone take a look?
[10:37] <jbmigel> Deeah run "glxinfo | grep direct"
[10:38] <jbmigel> Deeah your card should be supported 3D with the free Xorg drivers... no need for you to install anything!
[10:38] <Shak-> Rich43 also this isnt with vnc, im trying to connect to windows's native remote desktop server
[10:38] <goldfish> hi
[10:38] <mortal5> lol get this, if I want to uninstall vim to install 7, it wants me to uninstall ubuntu minimal
[10:38] <Sanne> Vegeta: maybe try Synaptic package manager. You might have to enable the multiverse. The link I gave explains that, and gives a link to a page about anabling repositories.
[10:38] <mcphail> mortal5: i'm running vim6 and 7 on the same install
[10:38] <davin> mcphail: gonna cry so hard if the live cd would lock up now =o
[10:39] <mcphail> davin: it hasn't, has it???
[10:39] <davin> mcphail: nah, how would I be writing this? ;-)
[10:39] <noob> vicscandl: well what am i looking for?
[10:39] <Deeah> jbmigel: direct rendering: No
[10:39] <Deeah> OpenGL renderer string: Mesa GLX Indirect
[10:39] <mcphail> davin: true :)
[10:39] <davin> !pastebin > Deeah
[10:40] <Sanne> Vegeta: do you still have the link to the wiki page?
[10:40] <Deeah> jbmigel: I know my card is supported, but I am missing xorg module/package I'm not sure what
[10:40] <mortal5> why does ubuntu use these 'metapackages' ?  For instance, if i want to remove gstreamer, it wants to remove ubuntu desktop
[10:40] <jbmigel> ya thats weird... sorry man i cant help you debug, just works for me
[10:40] <lampshade> what are the big diffs in VIm 7?  I didn't even know it came out?  What could they really do to improve other than speed?
[10:40] <shwag> how do I install all secuity updates ?
[10:40] <mortal5> lampshade, tabs, code completion
[10:40] <Deeah> jbmigel: xorg is modular, you can have xorg run with only 2d support. There is a 3d library for xorg.
[10:40] <mortal5> etc etc
[10:40] <lampshade> mortal5: code completion?????
[10:41] <davin> shwag: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade | sudo apt-get update ?
[10:41] <xdx> how can i see my partition ?!
[10:41] <shwag> davin...well that would upgrade everything.  SMB, direct network printer,???
[10:42] <goldfish> need help with networking
[10:42] <shwag> davin, actually i dont have a gui installed. this is a server.
[10:42] <nashife> I'm running dapper, and I just installed wine from synaptic and I can't get sound to work no matter how i configure it with winecfg.  can someone help?
[10:42] <goldfish> nfs
[10:43] <noob> vicscandl: direct network printer
[10:43] <mookid> Ohh btw.. can anyone tell me if there is less support for ubuntu 64 at the moment
[10:43] <xdx> how can i see my partition ?!
[10:43] <goldfish> want to share folders
[10:43] <noob> vicscandl: i dont think that windows to windows uses samba
[10:43] <vicscandl> noob: so there is an ip address and not an SMB computer?
[10:43] <goldfish> where are shared folder shown
[10:43] <mcphail> shwag: why don't you just leave the "security" repos uncommented in /etc/apt/sources.list
[10:43] <vicscandl> noob: SMB is a protocol.
[10:44] <noob> vicscandl:  well...in that case it is smb
[10:44] <jbmigel> xdx man fdisk
[10:44] <mcphail> shwag: and comment out the others
[10:44] <Sanne> mookid: Not exactly equivalents. Look around at http://ubuntustudio.com and http://linux-sound.org/. Closest would be: muse, rosegarden, ardour (no midi yet, but coded right now), beast, lmms, wired.
[10:44] <vicscandl> noob: so its like //<computername> not //<IP_ADDRESS>?
[10:44] <shwag> mcphail, thats a good idea
[10:44] <Vegeta> Sanne: I have downloaded the latest version of Sun Java, why can't I just install that. If so, how do I install THAT file (I'm really a newbie :/...)?
[10:44] <noob> vicscandl: its like //server/HPDeskje
[10:44] <mookid> oki doki thanks Sanne
[10:44] <mcphail> shwag: but most (?all) of the updates for the stable ubuntu branch are security related
[10:44] <xdx> when i run cfdisk i got that FATAL ERROR: Cannot open disk drive
[10:44] <xdx>                           Press any key to exit cfdisk
[10:44] <vicscandl> noob: and that is what you put in the setup on the ubuntu boxen?
[10:44] <xdx> why ?!
[10:44] <goldfish> my computer is goldfish-desktop my friends is bully
[10:44] <fokuslee> hi all i need some help with SLI
[10:44] <noob> vicscandl: yep
[10:45] <jbmigel> xdx sudo?
[10:45] <noob> vicscandl:  it asked me to put in the host and the printer
[10:45] <vicscandl> noob: hrm, ok, can you connect to any of the windows shares from the ubuntu boxen?
[10:45] <Sanne> Vegeta: oif you're a beginner, better stick with installing ubuntu packages before you know how to do things manually. Som, on the java page, at the top under "Prerequisites", there's a link to "Managing Repositories".
[10:45] <noob> vicscandl: host-server printer-HPDeskje
[10:45] <xdx> jbmigel,  i run with live cd
[10:45] <noob> vicscandl: yeah...i can access the shares perfectly
[10:46] <goldfish> helllllllllllllllllllp
[10:46] <Vegeta> Sanne: I went there, but it doesn't explain how to create a multiverse (I have universe)..
[10:46] <ompaul> !ask
[10:46] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[10:46] <shwag> mcphail, looks to me like most of them just want to upgrade the package name from  ubuntu6.06  to  ubuntu6.06.2
[10:47] <mooky> hello ompaul
[10:47] <mooky> didn't see you lurking
[10:47] <miketech> hm when I install windows in a vmware I have other system components than my system has in real.
[10:47] <mcphail> shwag: most minor version updates are security related
[10:47] <miketech> is it the same in xen?
[10:47] <miketech> does it emulate the hardware too?
[10:47] <miketech> or does it use the real components of the system?
[10:47] <Sanne> mookid: there's also a sub-forum on ubuntuforums for ubuntustudio, if you have any questions. Also the channels #ubuntu-studio and #lad (linux audio user and devs) here on freenode.
[10:47] <vicscandl> !printing > vicscandl
[10:47] <ompaul> !msg the bot
[10:47] <ubotu> Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops
[10:48] <mookid> excellent
[10:48] <Paddy_EIRE> have you guys read about this "dadvsi" I know I wont be following it!
[10:48] <mookid> :D
[10:48] <Vegeta> Through Synaptic, I can see that java-common and java-gcj-compat are installed, but there arent other java files there, other than java-gcj-compat-dev which is not isntalled.
[10:48] <fokuslee> can anyone help me with sli probleM?
[10:48] <Chris_Swift> Hey anyone here a coder for Linux apps? I am an ex-windows programmer and looking for some assistance in finding tutorials and compilers for the linux i386 architechure
[10:48] <mookid> Sanne: are there many budding RDJ's out there in the linux world then? :P
[10:48] <Sanne> Vegeta: on the page linked to, under section "Managing Repositories", there are links how to do that on Ubuntu, Kubuntu and from the command line. That should tell you how to do that.
[10:49] <miketech> Chris_Swift: what programs do you wanna write?
[10:49] <Chris_Swift> well i used to code for Games and mods but now i am interested in messenger apps
[10:49] <Chris_Swift> C++ language
[10:49] <miketech> ok
[10:49] <ompaul> !grub > xdx
[10:49] <miketech> for kde or gnome?
[10:49] <Chris_Swift> Gnome amt
[10:49] <Chris_Swift> *atm
[10:49] <jbmigel> Chris_Swift install build-essential for C/C++ then find yourself a dev environment
[10:49] <miketech> then you have to use gtkmm
[10:50] <miketech> gtkmm.org
[10:50] <erUSUL> Chris_Swift: http://catb.org/~esr/writings/taoup/html/
[10:50] <miketech> this is the gtk binding for c++
[10:50] <vicscandl> noob:  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows
[10:50] <Chris_Swift> ok htanks guys
[10:50] <miketech> np
[10:50] <vicscandl> noob: er, not that one http://linuxprinting.org
[10:50] <Chris_Swift> need to learn some new stuff now
[10:50] <miketech> there are a lot of tutorials
[10:50] <mookid> Can anyone tell me if using 64 bit ubuntu a disadvantage? I'm using it at the moment but only because I have an AMD 64 and I didnt realise 32 bit would run fine :(
[10:50] <miketech> on gtkmm.org
[10:50] <Sanne> mookid: there are some, but linux audio lacks a nice virtual studio yet. Lots is in the works right now, but it's still pretty early. It's a bit troublesome to really get to work, although some do. Recording is fine, though (with ardour, as I heard).
[10:51] <Crippy-Boy> Chris_Swift: Install build essential and grab Code::Blocks (Get the nightly build .deb and install using dpkg)
[10:51] <fokuslee> yeah you don't have flash on mozilla
[10:51] <fokuslee> and no real player
[10:51] <mookid> ok so it's gonna take some hacking to get it working basically
[10:51] <mookid> :DD
[10:51] <jrib> mookid: and no w32codecs
[10:51] <Sanne> mookid: I'm also reading this one from time to time: http://www.nabble.com/linux-audio-user-f13236.html
[10:51] <jbmigel> mookid it is about the same, only read difference is you cant run flash, but then again nobody can run flash 9 anyway so meh
[10:51] <opera_> hi
[10:52] <miketech> does anybody know, if I can install a windows on my system and boot it with xen? or do i have to reinstall the system in xen?
[10:52] <miketech> this would be great :)
[10:52] <mookid> yeah not having flash really pisses me off :/
[10:52] <Crippy-Boy> miketech: You cant run windows in xen
[10:52] <fokuslee> mokid and also no w32codecs
[10:52] <miketech> so i could boot windows if i need full performance or start in xen if i wanna use it in linux
[10:52] <Sanne> mookid: you can have flash and the codecs, lemme find you a link
[10:53] <miketech> Crippy-Boy: with newest cpus I can
[10:53] <fokuslee> mokid plus i don't see a major speed improvement
[10:53] <quiet> Crippy-Boy: you can.
[10:53] <mookid> apparently its more stable in 64 bit is that true?
[10:53] <quiet> Crippy-Boy: any VT capable processor can run Windows in Xen
[10:53] <mookid> and I can run flash by running a 32 bit firefox cant I ?
[10:53] <quiet> yes.
[10:53] <jbmigel> mookid it's a little faster maybe 10% having some extra registers... Id stay in 64bit cuz its cool and not many do
[10:53] <FurryNemesis> has anyone else had trouble accessing the  forums today?
[10:53] <Crippy-Boy> quiet: I might be wrong but didnt it take some NTKernel hacking to get it running?
[10:54] <quiet> no.
[10:54] <Sanne> mookid: some pages to read for amd64: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/?action=fullsearch&context=180&value=amd64&titlesearch=Titles
[10:54] <miketech> only if you don't have a vt capable cpu
[10:54] <mookid> thanks mate :)
[10:54] <mookid> thanks alot everyone
[10:54] <quiet> there was some of that.. before the VT stuff came out
[10:54] <caesar_> hey, I want to scroll around webpages when I middle click in firefox. How do I turn that on?
[10:54] <fokuslee> jbmigel do u now anything about nvidia sli?
[10:54] <mcphail> mookid: running amd64 ubuntu is a bit like running linux 3 years ago - good fun but you need to work at it
[10:54] <Crippy-Boy> quiet: Ahh i appologise i havent looked at xen for a while
[10:54] <jbmigel> fokusless sorry no i dont... I know it's cool.
[10:54] <Sanne> mookid: also in the forums there's a sub forum for 64 bit (it's down at the moment, so I can't provide a link right now...)
[10:55] <mookid> kk
[10:55] <quiet> Crippy-Boy: np..  i don't use xen either... i run vmware-server
[10:55] <quiet> it's a lot easier.
[10:55] <fokuslee> yeah itz not working on my comp pissing me off and i post on forum no one can hel either
[10:55] <jbroome> yeah, i popped in here to ask if the forums were running off someones dial-up
[10:55] <Sanne> mookid: good luck (lots to read, eh? ;)
[10:55] <mookid> yep! :D
[10:55] <quiet> jbroome: you're serious??
[10:55] <quiet> jbroome: no.
[10:55] <mookid> thanks for your help Sanne
[10:55] <caesar_> nvm. Got it taken care of
[10:55] <Sanne> mookid: you're welcome :)
[10:55] <jbroome> quiet: </sarcasm>
[10:56] <mookid> :)
[10:56] <fokuslee> lol yeah forum was super slow
[10:56] <FurryNemesis> mmm, I can't even get there on the windows maching
[10:56] <FurryNemesis> *machine
[10:56] <magical_trevsky> quiet, on the subject of xen, how do i find out if my processor is VT capable?
[10:56] <mooky> I'm really struggling to get the correct resolution out of my monitors. I've read the wiki "fix resolution" threads to no-avail. I would really appriciate some thoughts on how to get the correct resolution out of these monitors. I know they are capable of higher. I'm using the nvidia binary driver
[10:56] <quiet> magical_trevsky: what processor is it?/
[10:56] <Crippy-Boy> quiet: Just curious, Do you know which processors are VT capible? just for future reference
[10:56] <mookid> is VMWare server free on linux? :O
[10:56] <magical_trevsky> cpu[1 x Mobile AMD Athlon(tm) XP 2000+ @ 1.66GHz w/ 256 KB L2 Cache]
[10:56] <miketech> no it isn't
[10:56] <quiet> mookid: yes.
[10:56] <mookid> PRAISE THE LORD!
[10:56] <quiet> Vmware-server is free on everything.
[10:57] <miketech> only newest Intel CPUs are VT capable
[10:57] <magical_trevsky> ah, ok
[10:57] <mookid> I thought you had to pay for it on xp ?
[10:57] <Blissex> mookid: not the server version: the player.
[10:57] <mookid> ohh
[10:57] <mookid> bent
[10:57] <mookid> :/
[10:57] <Renan_s2> Blissex, but there is a free Server version
[10:57] <Renan_s2> I use it.
[10:57] <zoidberg> does anyone use TVTIME here?
[10:57] <Crippy-Boy> miketech: Newest being the 'core' series?
[10:57] <Sanne> mookid: the player is in the repositories
[10:57] <bigjb> there is a free server version for all supported platforms
[10:57] <mookid> player only runs live cd's tho eh?
[10:58] <quiet> Blissex: what are you talking about??  server is too free.
[10:58] <mookid> are we talking about torrents here or what?
[10:58] <zoidberg> does anyone here use TVTIME?
[10:58] <Krpano> to install the nvidia video drivers on a laptop is the same method as the desktop ?
[10:58] <Sanne> mookid: you can get a virtual machine on the net and install anything you want. I made myself a nice little windows 98 se virtual machine :)
[10:58] <miketech>  Intel Core Duo: Alle Modelle auer T2300E Intel Core Solo: Ultra Low Voltage Modelle Intel Core 2 Duo: Alle Modelle Intel Core 2 Extreme: Alle Modelle Intel Pentium 4: 6x2-Modelle Intel Pentium D: 9xx-Modelle, auer 915, 925 und 945 Intel Pentium Extreme Edition: 9xx-Modelle Xeon DP / MP: Alle Modelle mit "Paxville-MP"-Kern bzw. 7xxx-Serie Intel Itanium 2: "Montecito" Modelle
[10:58] <jrib> Krpano: yes
[10:58] <quiet> no... in the vmware website.
[10:58] <jrib> !nvidia > Krpano
[10:58] <Gumby> anyone here use frostwire?  Ive installed the ubuntu package from the frostwire website but it cant seem to find the java executable.  It wants to find it in /usr/java, /usr/lib, /usr/java, or /opt/  but ubuntu's sun jre resides in /usr/bin/java.  Anyone have any ideas (other than a symlink)?
[10:58] <Adam> hi all
[10:59] <FurryNemesis> !frostwire
[10:59] <ubotu> frostwire is a totally open source version of Limewire.  For installation help, please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FrostWire
[10:59] <miketech> mostly Intel Core and Pentium D
[10:59] <miketech> or itanium
[10:59] <Krpano> thx
[10:59] <Adam> when compiling ivtv I get this:
[10:59] <Adam>  WARNING: Symbol version dump /usr/src/linux-source-2.6.15/Module.symvers
[10:59] <Adam>            is missing; modules will have no dependencies and modversions.
[10:59] <Crippy-Boy> hmm but not 820?
[10:59] <jrib> Gumby: run 'sudo update-alternatives --config java' and make sure Sun's is selected
[10:59] <ompaul> Gumby, you tell the machine in sudo update-alternatives where to find java
[10:59] <Adam> what does it mean?
[10:59] <bigjb> mookid: http://download3.vmware.com/software/vmserver/VMware-server-1.0.0-28343.tar.gz
[10:59] <mookid> \o/
[11:00] <quiet> mookid: that's an old version.
[11:00] <quiet> use the latest.
[11:00] <kylebaked> is there a math program sorta like octave or mathomatica that has a gui?
[11:00] <mookid> ok
[11:00] <quiet> 29996
[11:00] <bigjb> erm, thats the latest available version of of vmwares site
[11:00] <Sanne> mookid: virtual machines here: http://www.easyvmx.com/   Some more info here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingVmPlayer
[11:00] <Help> what should the default permissions of /etc be?
[11:00] <quiet> http://www.vmware.com/download/server/
[11:00] <Qball> matlab has a gui. but not free
[11:00] <Sanne> mookid: beep if you're getting overloaded ;)
[11:00] <kylebaked> argh, thanks
[11:00] <cntb> Sanne Iwant windows Xp on XEn
[11:00] <Gumby> jrib & ompaul: perfect, thanks guys(gals)
[11:01] <kylebaked> anything else you know of
[11:01] <bigjb> heh
[11:01] <Sanne> cntb: aha...
[11:01] <bigjb> sorry mookid quiet is right
[11:01] <quiet> cntb: you better cough up the dough for a VT processor.
[11:01] <mookid> nps i'll survive ;D
[11:01] <bigjb> i clciked download link before the button link had loaded for the latest version :P
[11:01] <cntb> VT processor
[11:01] <vicscandl> noob: sorry i could not be more of a help.
[11:01] <cntb> ?
[11:01] <Sanne> cntb: I don't know anything about xen, sorry, never used it.
[11:01] <quiet> cntb: the only way you can run windows udner Xen.
[11:02] <quiet> cntb: Pentium D, Core Duo, Itanium...etc.
[11:02] <mooky> does anyone have any tips on sorting out Xorg resolution issues. I've been through the fixresolution page on the wiki
[11:02] <cntb> have PEntium D
[11:02] <quiet> which?
[11:02] <miketech> oh and cool:
[11:02] <miketech> just read:
[11:02] <cntb> 3 MHZ
[11:02] <noob> vicscandl: no i appreciate the help that you gave mi
[11:02] <miketech> you can install the guest system in the file system
[11:02] <Sanne> mookid: good to know, so here are some more links for you ... (joke)
[11:02] <miketech> not only in a image
[11:02] <quiet> cntb: which model..
[11:02] <casey420> is there a way i can access my windows network on ubuntu to play my music off my desktop on my ubuntu desktop ?
[11:03] <davin> mcphail: hehe its still backing up, im going to bed now anyway, so long and thanks for the fish
[11:03] <vicscandl> noob: wonder if it is win2k3 specific.
[11:03] <miketech> shouldn't it be possible to install windows and linux parallel and boot windows in a linux xen?
[11:03] <mcphail> davin: night
[11:03] <mookid> Sanne: lol :D
[11:03] <Captain_Redbeard> quick question, how to add a user to MySQL? can't remember :/
[11:03] <Phiwum2> whois davin
[11:03] <Sanne> mookid: :)
[11:03] <goldfish> help network please
[11:03] <quiet> miketech: no.
[11:03] <mookid> I think my allready uber hungry firefox is about to explode
[11:03] <vicscandl> !network > goldfish
[11:03] <miketech> hm why not? :(
[11:03] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about network - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:03] <noob> vicscandl: yeah i guess so because a lot of people have gotten it to work on xp
[11:03] <goldfish> how do i network two ubuntu pc together
[11:03] <vicscandl> !networking > vicscandl
[11:04] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about networking - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:04] <Sanne> mookid: lot's of tabs open, hehe. Me too.
[11:04] <mookid> ^^
[11:04] <stefg> !samba
[11:04] <ubotu> samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[11:04] <ompaul> !nfs > goldfish
[11:04] <Captain_Redbeard> !mysql
[11:04] <ubotu> lamp is a shortcut for Linux-Apache-Mysql-{PHP,Perl,Python}. To setup a LAMP server on Ubuntu, install the packages libapache2-mod-php5, php5-mysql, and mysql-server-5.0. You can also choose 'install a LAMP server' from the server install cd boot menu. See also https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP
[11:04] <quiet> miketech: because it's not installed a virtual system... it's just another OS on the disc.
[11:04] <noob> !weed
[11:04] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about weed - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:04] <Phiwum2> Hey guys.  Ubuntu newbie here.  I have a version of Mythtv on my slackware box and I wanted to run a frontend on my ubuntu laptop, but there's a version mismatch (Ubuntu's is older).
[11:04] <miketech> ok other way:
[11:04] <noob> just trying something
[11:04] <mookid> !troll
[11:04] <miketech> install windows in xen
[11:04] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about troll - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:04] <miketech> on the filesystem (not a image)
[11:04] <Phiwum2> So I thought I'd compile from source, but then I lose the advantage of package system.
[11:04] <miketech> so the files are on the system
[11:04] <noob> !coca-cola
[11:04] <stefg> !botabuse
[11:04] <ubotu> Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops
[11:05] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about coca-cola - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:05] <miketech> maybe i can boot the system?
[11:05] <|BiSHoP|> Is there a text-mode installation program for Ubuntu (latest 6.0.x) using the LiveCD?
[11:05] <tuxtux> notte a tutti
[11:05] <Phiwum2> How hard is it to create a package myself?
[11:05] <Tonren> Does anyone know how to make Ubuntu take less than four months to boot up?
[11:05] <quiet> miketech: yes. if you have the ability to.. as has been discussed.
[11:05] <goldfish> any ideas
[11:05] <quiet> Tonren: disable startup services??
[11:05] <noob> phiwum2: are you talking about the alien package?
[11:05] <stefg> Tonren: k7-CPU?
[11:05] <jared777> Okay i got ndiswrapper installed how do i tell my apps such as firefox to use eth1 while kismet uses eth2
[11:05] <miketech> hm this would be great :)
[11:05] <noob> !sex
[11:05] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sex - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:06] <Tonren> stefg: What's that?
[11:06] <bretzel> cool -- using dvdshrink within VMWare::winxp pro
[11:06] <quiet> Tonren: mine doesn't boot slowly for a full featured desktop... granted.. not nearly as fast as Arch.. but it's not unbearable.
[11:06] <Tonren> quiet: Can I do that by hunting around /etc/init.d
[11:06] <jared777> try man woman
[11:06] <stefg> Tonren: AMD Athlon Xp+
[11:06] <noob> !woman
[11:06] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about woman - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:06] <noob> !shemale
[11:06] <ompaul> noob sstop messing with the bot
[11:06] <mookid> noob.. you're going to get banned
[11:06] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about shemale - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:06] <Tonren> stefg: Windows boots up in like 15 seconds.  It takes Ubuntu about 2 minutes
[11:06] <goldfish> where are shared folders shown??????????/
[11:06] <noob> lol ok
[11:06] <bretzel> lol
[11:06] <noob> ompaul mookid sorry dudes
[11:06] <Phiwum2> noob: No.  I want to compile from source and create a new package
[11:07] <mookid> dont appologise to me I'm just a random tramp
[11:07] <mookid> :D
[11:07] <vicscandl> noob, don't be one.
[11:07] <noob> phiwum2: oh use ./configure
[11:07] <jrib> !checkinstall > Phiwum2
[11:07] <stefg> Tonren: that's no answer to my question... it's just a (meaningless) statement
[11:07] <noob> vicscandl: i have no intention of being a tramp lol
[11:07] <Renan_s2> anybody here has a GIMP 2.3.x package for Ubuntu?
[11:07] <barata> anybody please give me mplayer
[11:07] <Tonren> stefg: OH, you were asking if I HAD one
[11:07] <Tonren> stefg: No, I have an AMT Turion 64
[11:07] <jrib> barata: it is in the multiverse repository
[11:07] <barata> it's so hard to install it in ubuntu
[11:07] <Tonren> stefg: But I'm running 32bit ubuntu
[11:08] <ompaul> !mplayer > barata
[11:08] <noob> vicscandl:  i just enjoy chattin shit to bots
[11:08] <ompaul> barata, read that web page
[11:08] <Phiwum2> jrib: Thanks!
[11:08] <barata> !mplayer
[11:08] <ubotu> mplayer is a media player. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MPlayer/Compile to compile it from source or enable multiverse repo and type sudo apt-get install mplayer for more info please see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MPlayer
[11:08] <ubotu> For Codecs try !codecs Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MplayerInstallHowto for installation tips.
[11:08] <ompaul> barata, the bot messaged you
[11:08] <|BiSHoP|> The X.org server on the LiveCD won't allow me to use resolutions higher than 640x480 (using the ATI Radeon Driver, which it uses automatically) ...  I can't get it to install properly using that resolution, is there any way around this (perhaps a text installation or forcing it to use the frame buffer driver instead)?
[11:08] <noob> !mounting > noob
[11:08] <bfxl-eating>  how do I change the root password?  I forgot was it sudo root passwd ?
[11:08] <davin^zZz> mcphail: you still here?
[11:08] <noob> !mounting network shares >noob
[11:08] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mounting network shares - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:09] <mcphail> davin^zZz: yes
[11:09] <bluefusionxl>  how do I change the root password?  I forgot was it sudo root passwd ?
[11:09] <ompaul> noob, msg the bot
[11:09] <davin^zZz> mcphail: is there a chance of auto pc shutdown or anything like that?
[11:09] <barata> I know, and I did that already ... but I dont know it refused to build ... and I dont feel like to go into the deps jungle
[11:09] <jrib> !sudo > bluefusionxl
[11:09] <ladydoor> bluefusionxl: sudo passwd root
[11:09] <davin^zZz> mcphail: letting my pc on for the night
[11:09] <noob> vicscandl:you wouldnt happen to know how to mount a networked windows share?>
[11:09] <bluefusionxl> thanks
[11:09] <mcphail> davin^zZz: unlikely
[11:09] <noob> vicscandl:  at boot time
[11:09] <stefg> Tonren: try to boot up without the 'quiet splash' parameters (thus no uplash), and see if it changes something. I had a strange 30 sec. delay with the stock kernel, which went away when I compiled my own
[11:09] <Tonren> So, anyone have any hints on increasing bootup speed?  Mine's going REAL slow.
[11:09] <davin^zZz> mcphail: turned screensaver off just in case :-)
[11:09] <mcphail> davin^zZz: my current uptime is 24 days
[11:09] <ompaul> ladydoor, only say !root > don't go to that other place - let people read the page and leave it there
[11:09] <noob> !root
[11:09] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[11:09] <bluefusionxl> that wasn't needed jrib.   XD
[11:10] <bluefusionxl> I know what sudo does lol
[11:10] <ladydoor> ompaul: well, this person asked how to change the root password, specifically
[11:10] <bluefusionxl> but thanks
[11:10] <Tonren> stefg: how do I change my boot parameters, anyway?
[11:10] <barata> heih, the mplayer page also doesnt exist
[11:10] <bluefusionxl> and thanks ladydoor
[11:10] <ompaul> noob, you have been asked once - message the bot
[11:10] <ladydoor> ompaul: and sounds like zie knew before
[11:10] <davin^zZz> Good night people
[11:10] <ladydoor> bluefusionxl: np
[11:10] <jrib> bluefusionxl: yeah I think the command is somewhere on that page, or at least it used to be :P
[11:10] <noob> ompaul: how do i do that..im a n00b
[11:10] <ompaul> ladydoor, we don't do it, that info is on that page
[11:10] <vicscandl> noob: naw, like i said, i gave up on winblows 2 years ago.. ;)
[11:10] <ompaul> !register > noob
[11:10] <iturk> hi there is there any password for user root in ubuntu ??
[11:10] <ladydoor> ompaul: ok, i'll keep that in mind. however, i su to root.
[11:10] <ompaul> !msgthebot > noob
[11:11] <ladydoor> !root > iturk
[11:11] <ompaul> noob, read the messages from the bot
[11:11] <searayman> can i edit a gdesklet code and chang what the desklet looks a littl bit?
[11:11] <noob> vicscandl:  lol
[11:11] <stefg> Tonren: press esc at boottime to enter grub's menu, then press c to be able to edit the line starting with 'kernel'.. remove the words quiet and splash from tha line, then press 'b' to boot with that edited parameter
[11:11] <vdepizzol> How can I install Synfig (http://www.synfig.com/download/)?
[11:11] <bluefusionxl> iturk, there is not by default.  You have to set it with sudo passwd root
[11:11] <jared777> how can i tell if ndiswrapper installed correctly i am using 2 wifi cards
[11:11] <Tonren> stefg: ah ok.  i wasn't sure if there was a way to do it from within linux.
[11:11] <bluefusionxl> and your sudo password is your own password
[11:12] <searayman> can i have hlep editing gdesklet code a little?
[11:12] <ompaul> iturk, you actually don't need to use it
[11:12] <jbroome> !botabuse > noob
[11:12] <iturk> bluefusionxl: thanks
[11:12] <bluefusionxl> ndiswrapper... ooh that's, imo, the most hard thing to use in linux.  But maybe it was because my card used prism and it cou ldnt connect wirelessly.
[11:12] <ompaul> iturk, you can survive very well with http://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[11:13] <bluefusionxl> I suggest you try linuxquestions.org for that
[11:13] <ompaul> !ndiswrapper
[11:13] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[11:13] <iturk> ompaul: to set up postgresql i need to add an user using su first then su postgres
[11:13] <bluefusionxl> !ndiswrapper
[11:13] <bluefusionxl> Question:  Why do people even use PostgreSQL?  What's wrong with MySQL?
[11:14] <mooky> personal preference
[11:14] <mooky> postgres had features mysql didn't - first
[11:14] <stefg> iturk: sudo -i or sudo -s gives you a root shell
[11:14] <ompaul> iturk, no :-) sudo apt-get install postgresql works and does the hard stuff including whatever you want then you can su that usename
[11:14] <bluefusionxl> oh
[11:14] <quiet> i wish they would upgrade xmoto in the repos... the one there is REALLY old.
[11:14] <ompaul> bluefusionxl, over one gig dbs are way faster on postgresql
[11:14] <iturk> bluefusionxl: i have try both i can say mysql has problems with standard sql.
[11:15] <eXistenZ> How can I guarantee that only a certain group can open some directory?
[11:15] <Squeebles> I'm trying to install Wine onto my AMD64 Ubuntu, can't find out how to find it...
[11:15] <mooky> eXistenZ: chmod
[11:15] <mooky> and chown
[11:15] <goldfish> sharing folders between 2 ubuntu machines???????????
[11:15] <mooky> goldfish: is that a question ?
[11:15] <noob> ompaul: how do i mount networked windows shares at boot time?
[11:15] <mooky> fstab
[11:15] <mooky> or autofs
[11:15] <goldfish> yes any help would be nice
[11:15] <vicscandl> iturk: what standard sql problem did you have with mysql?
[11:15] <mooky> goldfish: look at samba
[11:15] <ompaul> !ntfs > noob
[11:15] <iturk> ompaul: if i just do su postgres it says not recognise command !!
[11:16] <stefg> goldfish: 2 options samba or nfs, which were both mentioned last time you asked, but you chose not to notice
[11:16] <jordan> Xchat is not working correctly for me, I am using irssi right now.
[11:16] <noob> ompaul: not on this hard drive...networked
[11:16] <goldfish> i thought samba was for windows
[11:16] <ladydoor> iturk: you do sudo postgres
[11:16] <mooky> noob: samba
[11:16] <ladydoor> iturk: not su postgres.
[11:16] <mooky> goldfish: yes, you asked to connect to your windows network
[11:16] <emergent> i'm following the wpa how-to for dapper and it says that I can left click on the network manager icon and choose 'connect to other wireless network' but it's not there, any ideas?
[11:16] <ompaul> iturk, try su - username
[11:16] <noob> mooky: what should i put in the /etc/fstab files
[11:16] <goldfish> no i want to connect 2 ubuntu machine together
[11:16] <mooky> noob: the server, the mount point, the mount options
[11:17] <mooky> same as a local drive
[11:17] <iturk> vicscandl: i had last year with table creations that had self incremental values !!
[11:17] <goldfish> not ubuntu to windows
[11:17] <mooky> goldfish: nfs or samba then
[11:17] <goldfish> ubuntu to ubuntu
[11:17] <mooky> your choice
[11:17] <vicscandl> iturk: AUTO_INCREMENT?
[11:17] <stefg> !samba
[11:17] <ubotu> samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[11:17] <goldfish> i have selected nfs
[11:17] <mooky> either will work
[11:17] <mooky> ok - great.
[11:17] <ladydoor> !sudo > iturk
[11:17] <iturk> i already resolv it !! root has now a pass and all went well
[11:17] <mooky> nfs them up then
[11:17] <goldfish> but cant find any shared folders on either desktop
[11:17] <iturk> vicscandl: yes
[11:17] <|BiSHoP|> Does anyone know what to put in the 'driver' entry in the xorg.conf file to use the framebuffer driver?
[11:17] <barata> where is the default folder for libjack0.80.0-0 for mplayer?
[11:17] <Ric1> can I ask a technical question about Ubuntu here?
[11:17] <goldfish> where do i look
[11:17] <mooky> goldfish: have you exported the shares
[11:17] <stefg> goldfish: samba is easier for beginners... install samba and smbfs
[11:18] <mooky> do you have all services runnign ?
[11:18] <goldfish> thanks for help by the way
[11:18] <barata> I just 'ln -s' libjack..so to that libjack0.80.0-0
[11:18] <Squeebles> I'm trying to install "Wine" onto my ubuntu AMD64, I downloaded a wine package.gz  is that right?
[11:18] <emergent> em let me clarify: the wnetwork-manager icon is there, but the option for connecting to wireless network isn't
[11:18] <mooky> Squeebles: no
[11:18] <iturk> and thanks for the help !!
[11:18] <Nebular> I want to mount the initrd image, what fs type would I use with the mount command?
[11:18] <mooky> not unless you wish to go around dpkg
[11:18] <bluefusionxl> anyone know how you accomlist "replace" with nano?
[11:18] <stefg> Squeebles: it's in the repos, so you could apt-get /if/ it would work in 64-bit :-)
[11:18] <Vegeta> How can I close an Adept application? Because I can't acces the "Add/Remove Programs" or Synaptic, because it says that some Adept Application is running. How do I know whta it is and kill it?
[11:18] <bluefusionxl> accomplish *
[11:18] <erUSUL> Nebular: cramfs i guess (try with auto)
[11:19] <Squeebles> awesome, thought so.. thanks Stef
[11:19] <bluefusionxl> anyone know how you accomplish "replace" with nano?
[11:19] <goldfish> do i get a network icon or anything
[11:19] <mooky> Squeebles: you know it doesn't work 64 bit ?
[11:19] <Ric1> test
[11:19] <mooky> goldfish: have you read anything on NFS ?
[11:19] <bluefusionxl> What's to test Ric1?
[11:19] <bluefusionxl> lol it's an irc channel.  It works
[11:20] <goldfish> no im new to it all
[11:20] <vicscandl> iturk: where you bringing in new data, or new table creation?
[11:20] <|BiSHoP|> Ric1: To answer your question: apparently not.  :)
[11:20] <Ric1> it's my new nickname
[11:20] <mooky> goldfish: then perhaps read up on it before using it ?
[11:20] <bluefusionxl> I see
[11:20] <Ric1> "mahler"
[11:20] <vicscandl> iturk: sorry to be inquisitive... i'm an sql nutcase.
[11:20] <bluefusionxl> anyone know how you accomplish "replace" with nano?
[11:20] <vicscandl> bluefusionxl: ctrl-r ?
[11:20] <iturk> vicscandl: i reallly dont remember but i remember to send a bug report to mysql
[11:20] <goldfish> this is why linux want get any where simple thing are to complex
[11:20] <bluefusionxl> vic, no that's append
[11:20] <mooky> its not complex
[11:20] <Sanne> Squeebles: this might help you with amd64: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=191205
[11:20] <ladydoor> bluefusionxl: try control-\ or esc (or alt)-r
[11:20] <mooky> you just have to read
[11:20] <Ric1> I'm here for a technical question: How do I change the resolution of the start-up loading screen from Ubuntu?
[11:20] <ompaul> !nfs
[11:20] <ubotu> nfs is the network file system. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpNFSHowTo for information on installing and configuring NFS.
[11:21] <mooky> the same as you do with a new windows feature
[11:21] <vicscandl> iturk: thanks. ;)
[11:21] <ladydoor> bluefusionxl: and for future reference, you can press control-G to get help
[11:21] <ladydoor> on commands
[11:21] <stefg> goldfish: Linus _is_ userfriendly, it's just picky about its friends :-)
[11:21] <iturk> vicscandl: i have learn first postgresql then i migrate to mysql and i had several problems
[11:21] <nozorro> Ric1: i think it this is a known bug ...
[11:21] <vicscandl> bluefusionxl: i use vim, used to use nano
[11:21] <Xenguy> bluefusionxl: ^-G  :P
[11:21] <bluefusionxl> alt r worked, thanks :)
[11:22] <vicscandl> iturk: postgres has some great features that took mysql until 5.0 to get solid.
[11:22] <nozorro> Ric1: you might try playing with resolutions in xorg.conf though
[11:22] <iturk> vicscandl: can you give me a email i can send you the database that i try to pass to mysql with a lot of problems
[11:22] <maple1> I like MS SQL
[11:22] <ladydoor> bluefusionxl: sweet.
[11:22] <vicscandl> iturk: pastebin it
[11:22] <goldfish> im not running a server just 2 client machine running ubuntu
[11:22] <vicscandl> !pastebin > iturk
[11:22] <stefg> goldfish: install smbfs, enter a line in /etc/fstab (which i can tell you when you're done) and that's it then... it's easier than in windows
[11:22] <mooky> goldfish: then it will never work
[11:22] <ompaul> goldfish, you have been asked to read the NFS page
[11:22] <mooky> you need a server application
[11:23] <bluefusionxl> What is Edgy Elf?
[11:23] <iturk> vicscandl: ok i will try to put the information of that files on it wait ...
[11:23] <Ric1> Do you see me as Ric1 ?
[11:23] <Phiwum2> How do I get a list of installed packages?
[11:23] <LightTitan> how do I kill my xserver so I can make graphic changes
[11:23] <nozorro> Ric1: yep
[11:23] <bluefusionxl> I mean Edgy Eft
[11:23] <Xenguy> Ric1: yep
[11:23] <mooky> thats how client server applications work
[11:23] <vicscandl> iturk:  no worries, i'll be here all day.. ;)
[11:23] <mcphail> LightTitan: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[11:23] <LightTitan> mcphail thx
[11:23] <erUSUL> LightTitan: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[11:23] <Vegeta> Why can I now acces the Synaptic or Add/Remove Programs? It says another process is using the package system. How can I see wich process it is and kill it?
[11:23] <livingdaylight> I need to be 300%sure: does using the live cd installer not wipe the partitions if i don't select format, ev en though i click 'install'
[11:24] <Squeebles> Sanne: Thanks! that site helps a ton
[11:24] <Sanne> Ric1: I read that the login screen takes the first resolution that is specified for you screen in xorg.conf.
[11:24] <Ric1> hmm, Xgl crashes when using too much Shift and letters
[11:24] <nozorro> Vegeta: cloick on sys monitor in panel to start system monitor ...
[11:24] <iturk> vicscandl: they are 8 files are you shore you dont have an email i will just zip them and send it in 3 seconds !!
[11:24] <livingdaylight> Seveas: hi, i'm in another fix
[11:25] <mcphail> Ric1: shift and backspace usually messes things up
[11:25] <Vegeta> nozorro: And then?
[11:25] <Sanne> Squeebles: yeah, it's great. I run 32bit wine on amd64, works fine so far. Also check out the wiki for amd64 specific pages, great stuff there.
[11:25] <Ric1> that might be it mcphail
[11:25] <nozorro> Vegeta: look for the offending program in the process list
[11:25] <Vegeta> nozorro: Should I kill something called "adept notifier"?
[11:26] <nozorro> Vegeta: maybe yes
[11:26] <Frederick> folks wich is the package name for image magick libs in uvuntu?
[11:26] <Ric1> anyway... about my question to change the startup resolution. This is a known bug? What is the bug#? And playing with X.conf probably only changes the Desktop resolution
[11:26] <mc__> Frederick: apt-cache search imagemagick
[11:26] <mooky> no it doesn't
[11:26] <stefg> !info imagemagick
[11:26] <ubotu> imagemagick: Image manipulation programs. In component main, is optional. Version 6:<IP_ADDRESS>-0.6ubuntu0.2 (dapper), package size 1576 kB, installed size 4068 kB
[11:26] <mooky> xorg changes your startup up
[11:26] <ladydoor> Ric1: do you want to change the resolution during boot? is that your question?
[11:26] <mooky> image
[11:26] <mcphail> Frederick: i'm sure there is a libimagemagick
[11:26] <nozorro> Vegeta: right-click and use End or Kill
[11:26] <Sanne> Frederick: or you can find out on packages.ubuntu.com
[11:26] <mooky> xorg controls anything x-related
[11:27] <mooky> or do you mean the bootsplash
[11:27] <Vegeta> nozorro: I did.
[11:27] <Ric1> ladydoor: yes
[11:27] <nozorro> Vegeta: try now to start synaptic
[11:27] <Frederick> folks Ive installed it but it seems ubuntu package is broken
[11:27] <ladydoor> Ric1: ok, you need to edit your menu.lst. do you knwo what resollution you want?
[11:27] <Frederick> at least I was unable to compile -> http://www.imagemagick.org/script/magick-wand.php
[11:27] <Ric1> yes, 1200x1600
[11:27] <Vegeta> nozorro: It can't the same problem
[11:27] <Ric1> but any higher then 1024x768 will do ;)
[11:27] <nozorro> Vegeta: error msg?
[11:27] <w30> Vegeta, on a terminal type ps aux | grep synaptic
[11:28] <livingdaylight> Seveas: need to reinstall grub. Using the live cd can i go through the installation process even though i  click 'install' andnot lose my data
[11:28] <Frederick> can anyone please try itfor me?
[11:28] <stefg> !build > Frederick
[11:28] <erUSUL> !grub > livingdaylight
[11:28] <Frederick> stefg, ?
[11:28] <ladydoor> Ric1: *higher* than that??? i'm sorry, i don't know the vga setting
[11:29] <ladydoor> Ric1: but if you can find it, add to the kernel line in menu.list the command vga=somenumber
[11:29] <Vegeta> w30: What should that do=
[11:29] <Frederick> stefg, Ive installed the packages incluididng the dev ones and I know how to use gcc
[11:29] <Ric1> alright
[11:29] <LightTitan> #nvidia
[11:29] <Ric1> and that number should correspond with 1024x768 somehow?
[11:30] <stefg> Frederick: why would you want to compile imagemagick if it's available in the repos?
[11:30] <ladydoor> Ric1: should correspond with whatever resolution you want. i know the one for 1024x768, but you said you wanted a higher one?
[11:30] <w30> Vegeta, it will give you the process number then type kill -9 thatnumber
[11:30] <ladydoor> *that was supposed to be a statement
[11:30] <Vegeta> nozorro: The error msg is: Another process is using the package system database (probabaly some other Adept application or apt-get or aptitude). PLease close the other application before using this one".
[11:30] <Frederick> stefg, read carefully I don't want to compile the lib I want to use its c pai!
[11:30] <Frederick> api
[11:30] <barata> what is the apt command for installing a downloaded deb package?
[11:30] <LightTitan> when I try to run synaptic I get this error. Unable to copy the user's Xauthorization file, what the hell does that mean?
[11:30] <barata> apt-get something?
[11:30] <w30> Vegeta, the process number is the first number
[11:30] <nozorro> Vegeta: look for that process and kill it like i said, or following w30's advice
[11:31] <lotusleaf> barata: sudo dpkg -i file.deb
[11:31] <ladydoor> barata: sudo dpkg -i packagename
[11:31] <iturk> vicscandl: http://pastebin.ca/165433
[11:31] <Xenguy> barata: apt-get install package
[11:31] <Vegeta> w30: It gives me "5460  0.0  0.1   2924   812 pts/4    S+   23:28   0:00 grep synaptic" :S
[11:31] <barata> thanks lotusleaf ladydoor & Xenguy
[11:31] <ladydoor> barata: np
[11:31] <lotusleaf> barata: yw
[11:31] <Ric1> ladydoor: 1024x768 would be an improvement, but I'd like 1280x1024 actually, just like my desktop
[11:31] <ladydoor> !language > LightTitan
[11:31] <w30> Vegeta, try kill -9 5460
[11:31] <stefg> Frederick: ah, ok... then it's probably doc-reading time....
[11:31] <biob> hwello
[11:31] <Nebular> .
[11:32] <ladydoor> ahhh, ok. in the meantime, for 1024x768 you would use vga=792
[11:32] <Sanne> Ric1: table at end of page: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FrameBuffer
[11:32] <ladydoor> Ric1: ahhh, ok. in the meantime, for 1024x768 you would use vga=792, which works fine for me
[11:32] <Frederick> stefg, Ive googled, read man, sent mail to lists
[11:32] <Phiwum2> Is there an easy way to see how a package was configured at compile time?  I.e., what flags were sent to configure?
[11:32] <nozorro> w30: he wanted to start synaptic originally, not kill it
[11:32] <ladydoor> Ric1: ah, actually, go to Sanne's link
[11:32] <Ric1> 795 .. great
[11:32] <erUSUL> Phiwum2: no afaik,
[11:32] <LightTitan> Thank you ladydoor... I will watch my mouth now. Now if only I could get some help with my problem
[11:32] <Ric1> I'll try it right away :D
[11:32] <Sanne> ladydoor: :)
[11:32] <Vegeta> w30: Still the same. The error msg in Synaptic is: "E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem. "
[11:33] <Phiwum2> erUSUL: Too bad.  Thanks.
[11:33] <whazilla_> http://rafb.net/paste/results/jvA4cN51.html
[11:33] <whazilla_> wrong versions
[11:33] <Gimbli> Good evening everybody
[11:33] <mooky> hello
[11:33] <w30> nozorro, maybe he has a zombie synaptic process running , if he kills all instances of synaptic then he can start a new one at the GUI
[11:33] <Nebular> ok I tried mounting the initrd with cramfs, got the error, wrong magic
[11:34] <erUSUL> Phiwum2: you can use ldd $(which <exec>) to see the libs a certain executable is linked to though
[11:34] <mooky> initrd isn't cramfs
[11:34] <Gimbli> hi mooky, how r u?
[11:34] <mooky> fine thank you
[11:34] <nozorro> w30: yes maybe
[11:34] <erUSUL> Phiwum2: usefull to see if postfix has ssl support (it will be linked to openssl)
[11:34] <goldfish> nearly there can see one machine now
[11:34] <nozorro> w30 but he didn't start synaptic (again) before i told him ...
[11:34] <Phiwum2> erUSUL: Thanks again.  I'll try that.
[11:35] <Nebular> mooky: that seems to be the case, what fs is it?
[11:35] <mooky> Nebular: not sure off the top of my head
[11:35] <mooky> ramfs ?
[11:35] <erUSUL> Phiwum2: no problem
[11:35] <mooky> goldfish: you can't have read the wiki yet
[11:35] <Phiwum2> erUSUL: And how do I determine which packages are installed and what they contain?
[11:36] <Gimbli> sorry, that i ask so directly, but has anybody experienced problems with the saving dialog in edgy's open office?
[11:36] <nozorro> w30: maybe he should use the sys monitor, it's the easiest thing to do
[11:36] <erUSUL> Nebular: i mounted my initrd with -t auto
[11:36] <nozorro> w30 want to take over?
[11:36] <ladydoor> Gimbli: #ubuntu+1
[11:36] <goldfish> no fiddling and trial and error
[11:36] <LightTitan> Trying to run Synaptic... all I get is this error: Unable to copy the user's Xauthorization file... anyone have any clue what is wrong?
[11:36] <Gimbli> oops, ok ;)
[11:36] <mooky> check your .xauth file
[11:36] <Frederick> does anyone here have magickwand installed and why able to link against it?
[11:36] <mooky> goldfish: PLEASE read the documentation
[11:36] <mooky> or stop asking
[11:37] <LightTitan> mooky, where is that and what would I be checking for?
[11:37] <whazilla_> how do i get kernel sources
[11:37] <Vegeta> nozorro and w30: I was running the installation of Sun Java but it crashed during the install, and I pressed the "x" and closed it, after that I couldn't open the synaptic or Add/remove...
[11:37] <whazilla_> but version i have ?
[11:37] <w30> nozorro, you are doing fine, everyone knows more than me :=)
[11:37] <mooky> LightTitan: home dir
[11:37] <whazilla_> allso got a apt-get issue
[11:37] <whazilla_> http://rafb.net/paste/results/jvA4cN51.html
[11:37] <ladydoor> d
[11:37] <ladydoor> sorry
[11:37] <Nebular> erUSUL: my system keeps asking to have the fs specified
[11:38] <goldfish> sorted all works
[11:38] <nozorro> Vegeta: which program did you use for installation ?
[11:38] <Vegeta> nozorro:  I was installing it trhough Add/remove
[11:38] <vicscandl> iturk: gimme a minute to review... may be interrupted by mini-me getting up from his nap.
[11:38] <nozorro> Vegeta: pls pull up the sys monitor again
[11:38] <james296> how can I add more display resolutions to use on here using the terminal?
[11:39] <Vegeta> ok
[11:39] <Ric1> ladydoor / Sanne: It worked!
[11:39] <james296> you know that xorg.conf setup screen
[11:39] <Vegeta> I have it up
[11:39] <Nebular> erUSUL:  can you give me the exact syntax you're usung? and did you unzip the image or not (I've tried both ways)
[11:39] <[fields] > how do I verify my firewire card is working?
[11:39] <LightTitan> mooky, I just looked... there is no file there.
[11:39] <barata> shit .... my problem with mplayer is because I upgraded ubuntu
[11:39] <james296> well??
[11:39] <barata> now evertyhing is broken like shit
[11:39] <iturk> vicscandl: in pvt send me an email its much better to understand !!
[11:39] <mookid> Anyone know of any tutorials for getting amarok to run on ubuntu 64 ?
[11:39] <ubuntu> Some one have a clou how to upgrade xubuntu to ubuntu (i think i read this issue some where) so the link or page where i can find info should do the thing  Tnx in advance
[11:40] <Vegeta> nozorro: What to do there?
[11:40] <james296> can someone PLZ tell me?
[11:40] <mooky> probably why it can't copy it
[11:40] <vicscandl> iturk: you not get my /msg?
[11:40] <nozorro> Vegeta if you have synaptic running and can't close it from the dekstop in the normal way ...
[11:40] <stefg> ubuntu: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[11:40] <mooky> mookid: should be setup the same as 32bit
[11:40] <w30> Vegeta, "/usr/bin/python /usr/bin/gnome-app-install" is running when you use the add application program
[11:40] <james296> hello?
[11:40] <nozorro> Vegeta: kill it from the process list (right-click)
[11:41] <ubuntu> tnx stefg
[11:41] <erUSUL> Nebular: the ones i was able to mount are the anes i create with mkinitrd the default ubuntu one is gzipped cpio archive
[11:41] <erUSUL> ones*
[11:41] <w30> Vegeta, use ps aux to see if you have a zombie running on that process
[11:41] <Jowi> what is the difference between prelink and preload?
[11:41] <LightTitan> mooky, I just looked... there is no file there.
[11:41] <mooky> as I said probably why it can't copy it
[11:41] <iturk> vicscandl: yes
[11:41] <james296> so how do I get to the setup screen to reset xorg.conf?
[11:41] <nozorro> w30: take over or wait it out pls. :-)
[11:42] <mooky> james296: dpkg-reconfiugre xserver-xorg
[11:42] <LightTitan> mooky, sorry I did not see that... so why did it just dissapear... should I make a blank one or what?
[11:42] <mooky> dpkg-reconfigure
[11:42] <Jowi> james296: put a "sudo" infront of it as well
[11:42] <fogos> someone knows a program to record video streaming
[11:42] <Vegeta> nozorro: Non of the ones you mentioned are listed...
[11:42] <mooky> LightTitan: its normally confiugred at xstart
[11:42] <foo> Hm, could I ghost a drive in knoppix with dd? dd if=/dev/hda1 of=/dev/hdb .. ?
[11:42] <mooky> x-start
[11:42] <Jowi> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[11:42] <LightTitan> mooky, so might a reboot take care of it?
[11:42] <nozorro> Vegeta: dpkg? apt? aptitude? adept?
[11:42] <smoked1> wow. I just installed ubuntu and got rid of that winbloze thing that I had and I have to say that they have done a great job. It works right out of the box on my laptop
[11:43] <mooky> LightTitan: possible
[11:43] <Vegeta> w30: IT gives me: 5577  0.0  0.1   2920   800 pts/4    R+   23:42   0:00 grep synaptic
[11:43] <nozorro> Vegeta also make sure you have All Processes checked under View in the Sys Monitor
[11:43] <fokuslee> !lspci
[11:43] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about lspci - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:43] <stefg> Jowi: AFAIK preload just aplies to Gnome (using boot-waits to preload gnome stuff) while prelink is setting the libraries up for all apps, so they are already linked when thy start..
[11:44] <w30> Vegeta, thats your grep process, no problem there synaptic is not running.
[11:44] <erUSUL> Nebular: you can "uncpio" it to see its contents afaik
[11:44] <GTX> Whats a good tool for monitoring how much bandwidth im using in SSH?
[11:44] <fokuslee> can anyone help me with lspci?
[11:44] <A-L-P-H-A> 'startx' won't start.  Says something about another session is in use, even though this is a fresh bootup.
[11:44] <mooky> mrtg ?
[11:44] <vicscandl> iturk: are you receiving my /msg's?
[11:44] <killown> how I get id high in amule?
[11:45] <Jack_Sparrow> fokuslee: what about lspci -v
[11:45] <Bee_Cue> hey im new to linux .. i was just trying to install ubuntu on my laptop with the cd .. it goes to about 80% .. then the screen goes black and there is 2 white rectangles and it just stays ... some help please
[11:45] <foo> Hm, could I ghost a drive in knoppix with dd? dd if=/dev/hda1 of=/dev/hdb .. ?
[11:45] <Vegeta> nozorro: Ok, I'm viewing them all now, I'll try to see if I can find some of the ones you mentioned.
[11:45] <fokuslee> jack sparrow can i message u a lspci read out?
[11:45] <mooky> foo: is this knoppix support ?
[11:45] <tronic> what was the package name with make in it
[11:45] <nozorro> Vegeta: kill'em
[11:45] <Jack_Sparrow> no
[11:45] <foo> mooky: No. Is dd knoppix specific?
[11:45] <Jowi> stefg: ah, so preload is not for me (no gnome here). you know, or guess, how ld.so.preload-manager package are? is it linked to "preload" for gnome or is it self-contained?
[11:45] <mooky> foo: no its not
[11:46] <foo> mooky: Then? :P
[11:46] <stefg> Bee_Cue: are you positive that your CD is error-free?
[11:46] <Jack_Sparrow> fokuslee: Just put it in pastebin and someone will look at it
[11:46] <mooky> then ask in knoppix
[11:46] <mooky> or man it
[11:46] <tronic> theres a package you need to get to enable the 'make' command can anyone recall what it's called
[11:46] <PhantasyHawk> Can someone help me with installing a video driver?
[11:46] <whazilla_> http://rafb.net/paste/results/jvA4cN51.html
[11:46] <Vegeta> nozorro: Should I seach under proces name or Parameter?
[11:46] <Bee_Cue> yea .. i ran that test first .. i could try again i guess
[11:46] <jerware> hi how do i get the man pages for C system calls/library calls ?
[11:46] <fokuslee> Jack what is pastebin?
[11:46] <Jack_Sparrow> dd is any distro
[11:46] <whazilla_> http://rafb.net/paste/results/jvA4cN51.html
[11:46] <GTX> Whats a good tool for monitoring how much bandwidth im using in SSH?
[11:46] <whazilla_> this is a nopaste
[11:46] <nozorro> Vegeta process name of course if you want to see the name. you can sort the list at the top
[11:46] <Jack_Sparrow> !paste > fokuslee
[11:47] <mooky> GTX: mrtg
[11:47] <mooky> as I said earlier
[11:47] <fokuslee> !paste
[11:47] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[11:47] <GTX> I said in SSH mooky not httpd
[11:47] <fokuslee> thx
[11:47] <PhantasyHawk> Can someone help me out with installing a video driver?
[11:47] <mooky> you can use mrtg for any network service
[11:47] <GTX> Yes, but I want to have a live update per second in sssh
[11:47] <GTX> ssh*
[11:47] <Jack_Sparrow> fokuslee:  You should have had a msg from Ubotu
[11:47] <jerware> how can a linux distro not have C call's man pages
[11:47] <mooky> ntop
[11:47] <whazilla_> mooky can u have a look at my package configuration
[11:48] <mooky> whazilla_: why ?
[11:48] <whazilla_> http://rafb.net/paste/results/jvA4cN51.html
[11:48] <smoked1> Whats a good mail client? Is evolution mail the best one?
[11:48] <nozorro> Vegeta: another one to search for is gnome-app-install
[11:48] <stefg> Jowi: no clue... i just vaguely remember reading about preload a looonnnggg time ago and found that it's installed by default in ubuntu-dapper (to spped up gnome start)
[11:48] <fokuslee> yeah got it thx
[11:48] <Jack_Sparrow> !best
[11:48] <ubotu> Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose among a number of different applications, depending on your preferences, the features you require, and other factors.
[11:48] <Bee_Cue> so anyone know? .. cuz my windows doesnt work now either :(
[11:48] <fokuslee> and how do i talk to u
[11:48] <whazilla_> it says configuration errors and i don't kno what todo about
[11:48] <Nebular> erUSUL:  ok I don't have uncpio. basically what I'm trying to do is run bootcdwrite. but it needs you to run bootcdmkinitrd. and that causes my system to start usin discoaver which takes 15+ minuts (it's old). I'm trying to avoid making a new initrd with the bootcd script
[11:48] <smoked1> most features
[11:48] <fokuslee> i mean when u talk to me it says jack-sparrow fokuslee
[11:48] <fokuslee> i want to do dat too
[11:48] <PhantasyHawk> Can someone help me out with installing a video driver?
[11:48] <mooky> whazilla_: put the configuration errors in the pastebin
[11:48] <Jack_Sparrow> fokuslee: Just post the link in here when you are done and someone will look at it
[11:48] <Jowi> stefg: ok. thanks for the info. I will make some research :)
[11:48] <whazilla_> http://rafb.net/paste/results/jvA4cN51.html
[11:48] <GTX> mooky. Installed now what
[11:49] <mooky> GTX - run it ?
[11:49] <mooky> perhaps read up on it before using it /
[11:49] <GTX> I have..
[11:49] <fokuslee> yeah thx
[11:49] <GTX> Where I view it?
[11:49] <fokuslee> but now did u do that
[11:49] <fokuslee> i mean just talk to me with my name after urs
[11:49] <erUSUL> Nebular: is 'cpio --extract -I initrd.img' (once you have gunzipped it)
[11:49] <whazilla_> mooky u seen the link ?
[11:49] <Jack_Sparrow> fokuslee: It is called tab completion...  type the first few letters and hit tab
[11:49] <mooky> yes
[11:49] <fokuslee> oh thx
[11:49] <erUSUL> Nebular: do it in an empty temp directory
[11:49] <fokuslee> Jack_Sparrow,
[11:49] <fokuslee> i c i c
[11:49] <fokuslee> lol thx
[11:49] <Jack_Sparrow> np
[11:49] <mooky> whazilla_: sorry - I can't read your langauge
[11:49] <Nebular> cool, thanks
[11:50] <Vegeta> nozorro: I can't find any of them. But on process called getty are listed 6 times? Is that normal?
[11:50] <whazilla_> :$
[11:50] <whazilla_> it's all semi englisch
[11:50] <PhantasyHawk> Can someone tell me what kernel modules I might be needing to install a video driver?  Im trying to install one, and it says it cant install without the latest kernel modules.
[11:50] <whazilla_> all importent stuff is englisch
[11:50] <stefg> Vegeta: yes, 6 terminals is standard for linux
[11:50] <foo> Can I ghost a hard drive with dd? I am doing dd if=/dev/hda1 of=/dev/hdb1 ...
[11:50] <mooky> whazilla_: no its not
[11:50] <nozorro> Vegeta: the getty processes are normal. they open your virtual consoles
[11:50] <mooky> foo: ask in knoppix
[11:50] <mooky> as requested
[11:50] <mooky> or man dd
[11:50] <whazilla_> just look @ error
[11:50] <Vegeta> ok
[11:50] <mooky> as requested
[11:50] <foo> mooky: I'm on ubuntu
[11:50] <mooky> whazilla_: I just have - hence why I'm telling you
[11:50] <lupine_85> foo: should work fine
[11:50] <mooky> foo: then why are you asking about knoppix
[11:50] <whazilla_> kk
[11:51] <foo> lupine_85: Thanks, that's the reasurrance I needed.
[11:51] <Jack_Sparrow> PhantasyHawk: What video card, different people have different experience with the different cards.. ATI and Nvidia are the most popular
[11:51] <lupine_85> rdiff would be a better way to do it, though
[11:51] <smoked1> What mail client do you guys use with Ubuntu?
[11:51] <lupine_85> incremental backups++
[11:51] <mooky> whazilla_: I can't understand the language
[11:51] <foo> mooky: Because I felt like it? Dude, dd isn't knoppix specific. Chill
[11:51] <mooky> foo: so ask in knoppix
[11:51] <whazilla_> i'll pastebin the importent stuff
[11:51] <nozorro> Vegeta: pls do this in a terminal 'ls -la /var/lib/dpkg/lock' and tell me the output
[11:51] <mooky> this isn't knoppix support
[11:51] <foo> mooky: I did.
[11:51] <PhantasyHawk> Jack: Its a stock intel card
[11:51] <mooky> whazilla_: I can see what you've pasted
[11:51] <Jack_Sparrow> I810
[11:51] <mooky> but I can't understand it
[11:51] <foo> lupine_85: Same command, eh? No extra params? I don't thinkn so
[11:51] <mooky> foo: man it !
[11:51] <mooky> or ask in knoppix
[11:51] <lupine_85> smoked1: thunderbird :)
[11:52] <mooky> this isn't knoppix support
[11:52] <foo> mooky: I asked in knoppix.
[11:52] <lupine_85> foo: true enough
[11:52] <foo> heh
[11:52] <foo> lupine_85: thanks
[11:52] <smoked1> lupine_85, thanks I think I will give that one a shot
[11:52] <lupine_85> mooky: distro turf wars are a bit silly, don't you think?
[11:52] <Vegeta> nozorro: The output:  -rw-r----- 1 root root 0 2006-09-09 23:50 /var/lib/dpkg/lock
[11:52] <mooky> lupine_85: this channel is busy enough with knoppix support without people asking for knoppix support in here
[11:52] <mooky> its not turf wars, its respecting the topic in the channel
[11:52] <dragonriot> anyone here done a <IP_ADDRESS> kernel yet today??
[11:53] <Jack_Sparrow> If someone has a question about dd, I dont care what distro he is using..
[11:53] <barata> did the last official upgrade also upgrade jackd
[11:53] <foo> haha.
[11:53] <finalbeta>  Someone knows a tool like wget that can download from ftp but supports SSL?
[11:53] <whazilla_> k mooky ... but error == fout and ongeconfigureerd == unconfigured
[11:53] <whazilla_> that's only important words
[11:53] <whazilla_> http://rafb.net/paste/results/jz4vhx51.html
[11:53] <mooky> whazilla_: why are you not listening - I can't understand the language
[11:53] <PhantasyHawk> Jack: Its an integrated intel graphics card - I have all the drivers untarred, but I get an error message when I try to install - it says it cant find a kernel config file
[11:53] <mooky> and thats NOT the only important line
[11:53] <whazilla_> i'll translate
[11:53] <foo> lupine_85: Thanks. It's not outputing anything. I was trying to find a verbose mode in the man page, no go. Blah. It's a 20GB drive
[11:54] <nozorro> Vegeta: ok do this and then post the resulting text file to pastebin. if you don't know pastebin, ask me first for a link. this is the command to do in a terminal: 'ps aux > processes.txt'
[11:54] <Jack_Sparrow> PhantasyHawk: Did you search the Ubuntu Wiki for intel vido info..
[11:54] <smoked1> I am new to linux. Would it be unwise to remove evolution mail?
[11:54] <lupine_85> foo: you can send a SIGHUP (IIRC) to it to get it to print out it's status
[11:54] <mooky> smoked1: depends if you want to connect to outlook
[11:54] <lupine_85> might not be a SIGHUP, though
[11:54] <Paddy_EIRE_> can anyone name any good freeware games like tremulous
[11:54] <foo> lupine_85: oh, hmm
[11:54] <mooky> exachange sorry
[11:54] <lupine_85> google knows :)
[11:54] <smoked1> Why the hell would I want to do that?
[11:54] <erUSUL> Paddy_EIRE_: enemy territory
[11:54] <stefg> smoked1: no, actually it's wise to get rid of it :-)
[11:54] <lupine_85> enemy territory++
[11:54] <smoked1> exchange servers are the devil
[11:54] <fokuslee> Paddy_EIRE, forzen bubbles
[11:54] <PhantasyHawk> Jack: Thats where I got links to drivers and basic information - the only information it has on install is just the command to run the install file, it assumes everything will go fine
[11:55] <lupine_85> turned into true combat: elite - +++++++++++++==
thats freeware? and it runs on Ubuntu??
[11:55] <smoked1> give me postfix over exchange any day
[11:55] <lupine_85> Paddy_EIRE_: freeware, GPL and works perfectluy
[11:55] <mooky> smoked1: ok - this isn't a "show how leet I am"
[11:55] <whazilla_> http://www.worldlingo.com/SH0gfCf2o9dNAktaqxFD0LIgenNjuBqms/translate
[11:55] <jared777> This is by far the best distribution so far I am in love with the package manager if only I could play all my games on it
[11:55] <Paddy_EIRE_>  <lupine_85>cool
[11:55] <lupine_85> true combat: elite is more realistic, though - so more fun (in my eyes!)
[11:55] <Paddy_EIRE> no i havent