[05:31] <scott__> gcc doesnt seem to want to compile things ....I know the codes good ....anyone know a good way to compile C stuff
[05:31] <ThePub> Anyone know how to change the mime association of a file?  It appears to be an issue with the underlying system and not nautilus directly.
[05:31] <elysium444> How can I forward port with the router?
[05:31] <bruenig> ThePub, right click, properties, change the open with
[05:31] <zspada15_> elysium444: try portforward.com
[05:32] <elysium444> thanks
[05:32] <Rookie_> You have to forward within the script, open port - then portforward it
[05:32] <seamus7> elysium444: you need to go into the router's administration panel via the browser and often need to set a static ip.
[05:32] <ThePub> bruenig: no, that is not the issue.  The issue is that *.java is mapped to text/x-csrc
[05:32] <seamus7> elysium444: I second portforward.com
[05:33] <elysium444> ok I will check
[05:33] <ThePub> bruenig: What that means is that when Nautilus goes to muck around with java files it prevents anything from happening automatically (like opening them with a text editor) because the contents and the mime type do not match.
[05:33] <magic_ninja> zspada15_: s/org/xorg?
[05:33] <dcode> I'm trying to use rssh to restrict access to sftp only...my users are being authenticated against an LDAP server...I'd like to override the shell for each user that i want to give access based upon a local group membership...is there anyway to do this?
[05:33] <maebmij> scott__: gcc is a good way... what errors are you getting?
[05:33] <superb0wl_> scott__ doyou get an error?  gcc is outstanding at compiling code
[05:34] <Rookie_> !paste
[05:34] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[05:34] <dcode> I have to change the shell to /usr/bin/rssh, but that would require  local passwd entry for every user
[05:35] <Rookie_> elysium444 - this is one way to forward ports within the script - http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/38040/
[05:36] <zspada15_> Rookie_: thats iptables
[05:36] <Rookie_> yea, you have to set the paths but thats the rules
[05:37] <zspada15_> oops
[05:37] <elysium444> Rookie_:thanks
[05:37] <Rookie_> zspada15_ - his prob showed up after he tested the script on that forum he posted a thread from
[05:37] <superb0wl_> dcode i'm pretty sure that you can set up a field in ldap called loginshell to handle that
[05:38] <dcode> superb0wl_: I don't want to change the loginshell for access to every server, just this sftp server
[05:39] <dcode> that and I don't have rights to change those shells in ldap
[05:39] <javiolo> some help with NFS this is my /etc/exports -> /home/javier/shared <IP_ADDRESS>/<IP_ADDRESS>(rw,async,insecure,all_squash,anonuid =1000,anongid=1000)  I get syntax error
[05:39] <Rookie_> !nfs
[05:39] <ubotu> nfs is the network file system. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpNFSHowTo for information on installing and configuring NFS.
[05:40] <SimpleSimon492> Also I made XP hda2 and linux hda1 how do I switch then
[05:40] <dylan_> Can Emacs play ogg/mp3, read news and mail, do irc, and browse the web easily?
[05:40] <maebmij> javiolo: seems like you should have a colon after the IP address and before the path..
[05:40] <Falstius> SimpleSimon492: you don't have any data you wanted on that XP partition do you?
[05:40] <javiolo> maebmij: colon ?
[05:40] <elysium444> Rookie_: I had the problem before testing the script
[05:40] <elysium444> Rookie_: I thought the script would solve it
[05:41] <maebmij> javiolo: ":" (but read the document that ubotu linked to)
[05:41] <Rookie_> elysium444 - depence on how you connect to the net ...
[05:41] <SimpleSimon492> nope got everything i wanted
[05:42] <Rookie_> windows (nfts and fat) really should be on hda1, makes it easier for win to find the partition
[05:42] <javiolo> maebmij: Im reading the docs but theres no : before
[05:42] <elysium444>  Rookie_: I got a lan connection from somebody else, my ip <IP_ADDRESS> static
[05:42] <Falstius> SimpleSimon492: good.  To switch the partition order you have to delete the partitions and recreate them which will destroy all the data.
[05:43] <maebmij> javiolo: sorry, I think I'm wrong.
[05:43] <Rookie_> by switch or router or private gateway ?
[05:43] <SimpleSimon492> That is what I thought OK thank you
[05:43] <Falstius> SimpleSimon492: unless you need windows for games, you're better off running it in a virtual machine than dual booting.
[05:45] <superb0wl_> dcode: you could write a custom nss module
[05:45] <Rookie_> elysium444 - i guess you have a router, check the rules in the router, if nothing wrong with the rules then flush the iptables rules ( iptables -F ) and run the sc ript you want
[05:45] <elysium444>  Rookie_: by switch I think I am not sure about that
[05:45] <superb0wl_> dcode: that's starting to get pretty complicated though
[05:45] <elysium444>  Rookie_: the script has the command "iptables -F"
[05:46] <dcode> superb0wl_: you're right :-/  I stumbled across a patch for openssh for this...but not quite what I need
[05:46] <dcode> i'll hack on that
[05:46] <superb0wl_> it sounds like a fun way to spend a day or two or work
[05:46] <Rookie_> yea, but you might have to set all the paths ...
[05:46] <insomnia> hey, I got a funny question for someone.
[05:46] <dcode> heh...luckily I've got a day or two to spend
[05:47] <insomnia> I'm just trying out ubuntu for the first time here...and it seems to have by default, not installed make or gcc.
[05:47] <insomnia> is that S.O.P. ?
[05:47] <Falstius> dcode: why do you want to restrict them to sftp?
[05:47] <cherubiel> insomnia: build-essentials
[05:47] <Falstius> insomnia: yes, they're easy to install though.
[05:47] <Konnektion> insomnia" apt-get install build-essential
[05:47] <superb0wl_> insomnia: i think they gear ubuntu for normal (read: less technical) people
[05:47] <insomnia> oh?  from the cd?
[05:48] <rpedro> !info build-essential
[05:48] <dcode> Falstius: because it's a file server...and the only people that need shell access are the administrators
[05:48] <ubotu> build-essential: informational list of build-essential packages. In component main, is optional. Version 11.3 (edgy), package size 6 kB, installed size 48 kB
[05:48] <insomnia> Konnektion: that would assume, that my NIC is supported
[05:48] <dcode> which is me :D
[05:48] <insomnia> and I don't need to compile a driver for said NIC
[05:48] <insomnia> before I can connect to teh 'net.
[05:48] <insomnia> but since I have to compile the driver....
[05:48] <insomnia> hmmm.
[05:48] <Rookie_> elysium444 - you see it says "iptables" in the beginin of each row ? but the system dont know where that is, you have to set up a path for that ... and you need paths and definition for each NIC / eth too
[05:48] <Falstius> insomnia: they are included on the CD
[05:48] <cherubiel> insomnia: get the compiler first, then think about how to get the drivers compiled :)
[05:49] <insomnia> cherubiel: yea.  I'm getting that catch 22 feeling.
[05:49] <insomnia> Falstius: since it's a VM, I don't really -have- a cd.  just an ISO image.  ;)
[05:49] <Falstius> insomnia: then its on the ISO image :-P
[05:50] <jwickard> Anyone know how to rotate logs in multiple directories for apache virtual posts?  like /var/dir1/*.log /var/dir2/*.log /var/dir3/*.log { <config options /> }
[05:50] <cherubiel> insomnia: mount the iso, and add it to the repo list in sources.lst
[05:50] <insomnia> yea.
[05:50] <insomnia> which is...um...where?
[05:50] <TraceGreen> Hello, my hardisk has "host area protected", I check dmsg and find: "hda: Host Protected area detected but disabled", can i enable it in linux?
[05:50] <anichak> can anybody give me some link on setting up struts in ubuntu please
[05:51] <Rookie_> almost 6 am ... need coffee
[05:51] <jwickard> anichak: jakarta struts?
[05:51] <anichak> jwickard: yes
[05:52] <minerale> I just installed beryl, followd all instructions from the wiki, I logged out, logged back in on beryl -- now what ? how do I enable the animations? everything seems the same
[05:52] <emilia> hey guys, i cant right click on my desktop, and it doesnt show whats in /home/user/desktop ?
[05:52] <anichak> jwickard: I am using eclipse but not getting much success
[05:52] <jwickard> anichak: it's something you'd put in your webapp, kind of independent from the os / distro
[05:52] <elysium444>  Rookie_: I did the iptables -F and run the script again but doesnt work, I send a new reply to the forum with the output that i got: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1909088#post1909088
[05:53] <insomnia> geez.  seriously convoluted.
[05:53] <Winter> say, in Gnome i have hda2 and hda3 (a second hard drive) showing up on my desktop... they are an eyesore, is there any way to get rid of them other than umounting them?
[05:54] <jwickard> anichak: if you're using eclipse it's even easier.  For example I have a directory I keep all my downloaded java libraries in, then I use eclipse to define my own libraries that I can import into any project I'd like.
[05:54] <ubuntu> someone here
[05:54] <hlds> hey
[05:54] <ubuntu> hey are you here
[05:54] <ubuntu> i have problem
[05:54] <funbags_> Is there a desktop widget engine for linux / ubuntu?
[05:55] <Music_Shuffle> Yeah.
[05:55] <jwickard> gdesklets?
[05:55] <Music_Shuffle> Gnome has gdesklets.
[05:55] <Music_Shuffle> KDE has SuperKaramba.
[05:55] <hlds> is dis same as MIRC?
[05:55] <cherubiel> superkaramba
[05:55] <ubuntu> hey
[05:55] <Music_Shuffle> hlds, unfortunately, yes.
[05:55] <ubuntu> i have problem with Kerio Mail server
[05:55] <ubuntu> for Ubuntu
[05:55] <hlds> alrighty
[05:55] <ubuntu> or i can too have problem with Zimbra Mail SErver
[05:56] <ubuntu> can someone help
[05:56] <hlds> wow im installing xp on other pcs
[05:56] <insomnia> personally
[05:56] <ubuntu> ok
[05:56] <insomnia> I'd say if your NAME is "ubuntu", you should help yourself.
[05:56] <insomnia> lol
[05:56] <ubuntu> aha
[05:56] <ubuntu> BUt the programer didn't program me
[05:56] <ubuntu> Insomnia
[05:57] <ubuntu> for answers i need to ask them
[05:57] <daya> ubotu, hey :)
[05:57] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about hey :) - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:57] <n2diy> Anybody familiar with rsync?
[05:57] <daya> ubuntu, :)
[05:57] <ubuntu> hey help
[05:57] <ThePub> Does anyone know how to reset a mime association?  Maybe wipe the slate clean for a mimetype and let gnome automatically reassociate filetypes?
[05:57] <ubuntu> daya is thim name WOman
[05:57] <daya> n2diy, rsync is used for backup
[05:57] <funbags_> superkaramba looks interesting
[05:57] <DarthShrine> daya: Not always.
[05:57] <hlds> DAM u guys know why i cant acess webpages but only AIM and MIRC, it was fine yesterday
[05:58] <Rookie_> elysium444 - wrote you an answer
[05:58] <n2diy> daya, roger that, how do I set it up?
[05:58] <ubuntu> hlds man i too have problem with Ubuntu sometimes
[05:58] <hlds> im having dat with all my pcs lol
[05:58] <n2diy> daya, I want to back up this box to my test box
[05:58] <ubuntu> hlds i install Ubuntu on VMware
[05:58] <ubuntu> becouse i love XP
[05:58] <ubuntu> it is GUi menu all
[05:59] <hlds> i have linux and xp and another pc seperate pcs
[05:59] <ubuntu> ANd Ubuntu is not not
[05:59] <hlds> vista is pretty nice.
[05:59] <elysium444> Rookie_:ok thanks
[05:59] <ubuntu> why every program is in terminal
[05:59] <Falstius> ubuntu, I hate gui menu's ... such a pain.
[05:59] <ubuntu> hlds crack is nice
[05:59] <hlds> crack wut?
[05:59] <ubuntu> Falstius man i like GUI MENU they are eares
[05:59] <Rookie_> elysium444 - want to learn more about iptables and how it works? www.iptables.org
[05:59] <ubuntu> they help you
[06:00] <ubuntu> hlds Vista is like UBuntu man but you need crack
[06:00] <hlds> ubuntu why u say crack is nice?
[06:00] <insomnia> ugh
[06:00] <insomnia> so what's the kernel source package name?
[06:00] <hlds> o i have it.
[06:00] <insomnia> since apt-get source kernel won't work
[06:00] <hlds> Vista RTM.
[06:00] <ubuntu> hlds becouse Vista need to be cracked man it is so sweet that Bil Gates can this windows in his ass
[06:00] <Falstius> insomnia: you probably just need the headers, linux-headers
[06:01] <n2diy> Crap, now I'm 50 years old.
[06:01] <ubuntu> put
[06:01] <ubuntu> n2diy Happy BIrthday
[06:01] <xerophyte> how can i setup vi alias to vim ?
[06:01] <hlds> lol i only use ubuntu for my CS server
[06:01] <insomnia> Falstius: apparently that's not there either.  lol
[06:01] <n2diy> ubuntu, thanks.
[06:01] <elysium444> Rookie_:what ip I have to put my static <IP_ADDRESS> or my external ip?
[06:01] <hlds> dats why My NAme is hlds= half life dedicated server
[06:01] <ubuntu> n2diy man long life
[06:02] <ubuntu> hlds pfuuuu i want to play Games in LInux
[06:02] <ubuntu> WIndows
[06:02] <Rookie_> ubuntu - and you dont think Bill have learned his lesson from W95 to WXP and W2003S ? he will most likely solve that kind of problem .... but i can agree, it will always be someone who can ...
[06:02] <hlds> i dont play i just host my server
[06:02] <n2diy> ubuntu, my goal is to live forever, so far, so good. :)
[06:02] <daya> n2diy, rysync is used to copy the file
[06:02] <ubuntu> n2diy ok mans
[06:02] <emilia> hey guys, i cant right click on my desktop, and it doesnt show whats in /home/user/desktop ?
[06:02] <hlds> yea someone will crack it sometime.
[06:02] <daya> n2diy, for it u have to configure cron job
[06:03] <hlds> people already did.
[06:03] <ubuntu> Rookie_ man and how you think that Bil Gates only try to see how till be the product
[06:03] <ubuntu> on the market
[06:03] <ubuntu> hlds but the crack didn't work
[06:03] <bimberi> emilia: Desktop (Capital D)
[06:03] <ubuntu> it is trial versoin
[06:03] <Falstius> insomnia: that might not be on the CD .. it is a large package.
[06:03] <hlds> mine was activated.
[06:03] <n2diy> daya, I want to copy all my files, and you don't need to run it from cron.
[06:03] <daya> n2diy, for eg. i need to copy hda1 to hda2 used this rsync -a /mnt/hda1 /mnt/hda2
[06:03] <insomnia> Falstius: lovely.
[06:03] <hlds> but i formated.
[06:03] <superb0wl_> insomnia the kernel source is linux-source but you might just need the headers which is kernel-headers
[06:03] <daya> n2diy, then u can do other method
[06:03] <ubuntu> hlds no man go in run then put ver
[06:03] <insomnia> so.  suggestions?
[06:03] <insomnia> :)
[06:03] <emilia> bimberi: the desktop doesnt display anything
[06:03] <daya> n2diy, like ssh
[06:03] <somerville32> ubuntu, hlds: This might be a better discussion for -offtopic :)
[06:03] <Rookie_> elysium444 - you have to spec your internal ip, if you use the puter as a gateway too you need to spec both nics
[06:03] <ubuntu> you will see that is Evaluation
[06:03] <daya> n2diy, scp et
[06:03] <insomnia> would it be on the server cdrom?
[06:03] <emilia> bimberi: but i see the files in ~/Desktop
[06:04] <hlds> dude it was it said i had GENUINE.
[06:04] <emilia> bimberi: and i can't right clickon it
[06:04] <n2diy> daya, I'm coping from one box to another, not hard drive to hard drive localy.
[06:04] <ubuntu> hlds man 6 times i restart VIsta and in one moment it say Evalutaiton
[06:04] <bimberi> emilia: is this Gnome?
[06:04] <ubuntu> Evaluation
[06:04] <hlds> not mine.
[06:04] <emilia> bimberi: yeah
[06:04] <Tonren> Hey guys, I let my laptop run out of batteries and it went into hibernate.  I think it wrote something bogus to the swap partition because now I can't boot up.  Will someone please help me?
[06:04] <daya> n2diy, then you can do scp
[06:04] <ubuntu> and now can someone say how to configura Zimbra
[06:04] <daya> n2diy, did you get the point
[06:05] <Tonren> My laptop's been out of commission for 3 days and I've been in here all the time.  I really don't want to switch back to Windows, but if something like this can knock everything out, I just might have to.
[06:05] <ubuntu> hlds what copy of VIsta you use ???
[06:05] <hlds> Vista RTM.
[06:05] <hlds> build 6000
[06:05] <Rookie_> elysium444 - you wan to take the shortcut, try this - http://easyfwgen.morizot.net/gen/
[06:05] <ubuntu> hlds for BIl Gates or no?
[06:05] <bimberi> emilia: hmm. perhaps it's a gconf setting.  ALT-F2 "gconf-editor" and see if there's someting in /apps/nautilus/...
[06:05] <superb0wl_> n2diy if you still want to use rsync you can set --rsh=ssh
[06:05] <n2diy> daya, no, I missed the point, sorry. Roger scp.
[06:05] <hlds> is called RTM i think is the same.
[06:05] <ubuntu> bad here is 6:00 is SPain
[06:05] <lupine_85> so, interesting question. What's the plural of ubuntu?
[06:05] <elysium444>  Rookie_: I need to do some learning...what are nics and puter is there another link you can send me or iptables is just fine?
[06:05] <lupine_85> I just settled on ubunti...
[06:06] <Tonren> lupine_85, What's the plural of George Bush?  It's a proper noun.
[06:06] <daya> n2diy, secure copy
[06:06] <ubuntu> hlds man bastards from where do you download it.
[06:06] <insomnia> huh
[06:06] <n2diy> superb0wl_: roger that too.
[06:06] <hlds> dis chaccnel is nice
[06:06] <insomnia> why didn't you just tell me to run synaptic?
[06:06] <insomnia> lol
[06:06] <Rookie_> NIC - Network InterfaCe, puter - computer/pc
[06:06] <emilia> bimberi: no, nothing in there :(
[06:06] <simeon> you can run aptitude, insomia
[06:06] <hlds> NIC= network interface card.
[06:07] <lupine_85> more than one george bush == lots of trouble :p
[06:07] <n2diy> daya, roger secure copy, haven't used that either, no experience with networking here.
[06:07] <bimberi> emilia: sorry, out of ideas for now :/
[06:07] <lupine_85> but you can definitely have more than one ubuntu
[06:07] <Rookie_> ahh, yes, your right hlds
[06:07] <hlds> lol.
[06:07] <Akuma_> is there important stuff to be backed up outside of ~ ?
[06:07] <Rookie_> tierd ... 6 am ...
[06:07] <daya> n2diy, have they are in the network i mean two boxes
[06:07] <ubuntu> hlds from where you have the copy of VIsta
[06:07] <lupine_85> Akuma_: /etc ...
[06:07] <hlds> wow 1st time here im doing pretty good.
[06:07] <elysium444> Rookie_: ok thanks, I didnt know. I will do some learning. Enjoy your coffe
[06:07] <ubuntu> hlds ok
[06:07] <Akuma_> lupine_85: thanks
[06:08] <hlds> lol
[06:08] <hlds> xp is done installing.
[06:08] <n2diy> daya, yes, I can network them with a crossover  cable, or a router.
[06:08] <BrianSteffens> ew xp
[06:08] <BrianSteffens> lol
[06:08] <hlds> now i need to make it dualboot.
[06:08] <hlds> vista and xp
[06:08] <hlds> ubuntu
[06:08] <hlds> i think crack dont work anymore.
[06:08] <Tonren> My laptop's been out of commission for 3 days and I've been in here all the time.  I really don't want to switch back to Windows, but if something like this can knock everything out, I just might have to.
[06:09] <Tonren> Someone please help out.
[06:09] <ubuntu> hlds man i don't use VIsta
[06:09] <Tonren> I let my laptop run out of batteries and it went into hibernate.  I think it wrote something bogus to the swap partition because now I can't boot up.
[06:09] <ubuntu> i have it only for test in Vmware
[06:09] <hlds> o
[06:09] <ubuntu> hlds but from where you download it.
[06:09] <hlds> u have 2 gigs of RAM?
[06:09] <hlds> from a IRC channel
[06:09] <hlds> forgot name.
[06:09] <Music_Shuffle> Tonren, what happened?
[06:09] <ubuntu> hlds no man it work good with 512mb ram
[06:09] <llindy> hlds, I have a dual boot..Ubuntu/xp, everything gr8, and I did have vware/parallels, but alas, 8 partitions, was 4 too many
[06:10] <ubuntu> ok man i will go
[06:10] <llindy> LOL
[06:10] <n2diy> Tonren: what does your swap partition have to do with booting up?
[06:10] <llindy> crashed
[06:10] <Akuma_> i downloaded some security updates yesterday night, and now gnome wont boot anymore. did anybody hear about problems with the latest updates?
[06:10] <hlds> yea i know how but i had windows vista.
[06:10] <Tonren> n2diy, when you go into hibernate, it writes memory into the swap partition.  right?  Then, when you boot up, it reads from the swap partition.
[06:10] <hlds> and den installed Xp on another HD
[06:10] <llindy> ah, uh hu
[06:10] <hlds> so it wont do dat.
[06:10] <hlds> i need a pro.
[06:10] <llindy> lol
[06:10] <hlds> program
[06:10] <ubuntu> hlds ok man you are going good
[06:11] <Jerimiah40> so, I'm going to download the liveCD, and I see an i386 option, but I also see an AMD64 option.  I have an Athlon 64 processor, do I have to use the AMD64 one?
[06:11] <ubuntu> i' will go out becouse i need to see zimbra
[06:11] <n2diy> Tornre, I don't think so, when you boot, you read from the mbr.
[06:11] <hlds> thx ubuntu
[06:11] <simeon> exit
[06:11] <hlds> i will come here more often
[06:11] <hlds> simeon is not exit
[06:11] <Music_Shuffle> Jerimiah40, you don't have to, but its optimized for the A64 cores, so you might as well.
[06:11] <ubuntu> hlds ok man from where are you.
[06:11] <mphill> I botched my system update a little, is it possible to get a new version of login.defs?
[06:11] <hlds> is /disconnect
[06:11] <hlds> CA.
[06:11] <Music_Shuffle> !enter
[06:11] <ubotu> Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[06:11] <hlds> DAM my xp says is not genuine.
[06:11] <BrianSteffens> jerimiah40 no you can use either 32 bit or 64 bit versions. 32 bit will not use all of your processing power but 64 bit is less compatible with different softwares
[06:12] <Jerimiah40> Music_Shuffle - is it like Windows in that the x64 version has almost zero compatability?
[06:12] <daya> n2diy, then for eg your remote box ip is <IP_ADDRESS> and your ip is <IP_ADDRESS> then just run scp -r <what you want to copy , path name> root@<IP_ADDRESS>:/
[06:12] <Jerimiah40> Brian - Oh, okay.  So, in your opinion, which one should I choose for a dualboot between Windows and Ubuntu?
[06:12] <daya> n2diy, I think you get it.
[06:12] <lupine_85> hlds: is it? :p
[06:13] <daya> n2diy, try googling ssh how to
[06:13] <BrianSteffens> jerimiah40 if you have a 32 bit version of windows dual-booting with ubuntu, i would go with the 64 bit version of ubuntu and use windows as your 'compatibility os'
[06:13] <hlds> never said dis before.
[06:13] <Jerimiah40> Okay, sounds good
[06:13] <hlds> ill format again i guess.
[06:13] <n2diy> daya, roger all that.   From what I've read it's rather difficult
[06:14] <hlds> its easy.
[06:14] <lupine_85> Jerimiah40: verr easy
[06:14] <Jerimiah40> okay
[06:14] <hlds> install ubuntu first den xp and there u go.
[06:14] <lupine_85> no
[06:14] <lupine_85> install xp first
[06:14] <Geoffrey2> install xp first, then ubuntu
[06:14] <Jerimiah40> hlds - there's the problem.  I've got an OEM copy of XP
[06:14] <lupine_85> XP is not linux-aware. Linux is windows-aware.
[06:14] <n2diy> Jerimiah40:  Piece of cake, just load Winders first, and then ubuntu.
[06:15] <llindy> I did xp, then Ubuntu
[06:15] <hlds> OEM/
[06:15] <Jerimiah40> ah, okay.  That's where I was worried, a lot of things I read agreed with what hlds said
[06:15] <hlds> u have the real one?
[06:15] <Jerimiah40> yeah, my computer came with XP home preinstalled
[06:15] <Bambang> .id
[06:15] <hlds> hmm i see.
[06:15] <daya> n2diy, just see their ip and give me the path what you want to copy i will provide u command
[06:16] <Bambang> .id
[06:16] <Dave___> the ubuntu live cd is locked inside my drive and wont eject!!!!!!!
[06:16] <n2diy> daya, I don't have the network cabled, so it won't happen tonight, but thanks anyway.
[06:16] <syte> use a papercl
[06:16] <syte> ip
[06:16] <hlds> open it up.
[06:16] <Dave___> ok
[06:16] <Konnektion> !ntfs
[06:16] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse
[06:16] <lupine_85> Dave___: you'd need to unmount it before it'll eject
[06:16] <syte> i think u can mess around with one of the gears using a paperclip to open it up
[06:16] <Jerimiah40> Dave - on the front of the drive, there will usually be a little tiny hole.  Stick a paperclip in, and the drive should pop open
[06:17] <lupine_85> that's standard behaviour in *nix
[06:17] <Falstius> Jerimiah40: dual booting is not hard, but it is a waste of time
[06:17] <hlds> damm i need a new XP cd key.
[06:17] <daya> n2diy, o.k
[06:17] <daya> n2diy, :)
[06:17] <daya> n2diy, can u talk in PM
[06:17] <Dave___> ok thanks
[06:17] <lupine_85> but you probably don't want to unmount it while running off i...
[06:17] <Jerimiah40> Falstius - in what way?
[06:17] <syte> whenever i play cs, the arrow stays, anyway to get rid of that
[06:17] <n2diy> daya, what is PM? maybe?
[06:17] <syte> using cedega
[06:18] <syte> like cursor stays in the middle of my screen. it really gets annoying :(
[06:18] <daya> n2diy, Private mesage
[06:18] <Maelgwyn> Hi, i need a solution to a problem
[06:18] <Maelgwyn> As we all do
[06:18] <Maelgwyn> Then I will be out of your hair
[06:18] <hlds> shoot it
[06:18] <Tonren> Can someone please help me out here?  This is an urgent problem.  Here's a thread with my error messages in it: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1909152#post1909152
[06:18] <Falstius> Jerimiah40: because virtualization is a much better solution for primarily using one OS and occasionally switching to another.  Especially for work situations.  For games it is a little different.
[06:18] <Dave___> paperclip didnt work
[06:18] <n2diy> daya, ok, I'm running xchat.
[06:18] <syte> someone mine helping me with cedega for a second?
[06:18] <daya> n2diy, have u registered you nick name in irc channel
[06:18] <syte> mind*
[06:18] <Falstius> And if you need your XP for games, install linux in a virtual machine and expand it to full screen most of the time.
[06:19] <hlds> im having problems with a xp cd key so... lol
[06:19] <Maelgwyn> I need to play a DVD that is saying its illegal, but i had played it before
[06:19] <Maelgwyn> Need an easy easy solution
[06:19] <n2diy> daya, I think so, I'm here aren't I?
[06:19] <Jerimiah40> Falstius - okay, fair enough
[06:19] <daya> n2diy, yes but did u see my private message in the tab below at my name
[06:19] <Falstius> my machine is set up dual boot, and the 20GB XP partition is just wasted space since I never reboot.
[06:19] <n2diy> daya, nope.
[06:19] <AllenA> i cannot for the life of me get pilot-link to work... i dont even know where to start, the usb and visor mods are installed /var/log stuff shows handspring visor/palm attached to ttyUSB1... i tried using udev and when pressing hotsync /dev/pilot shows up but still cannot seem to communicate it just sits on waitg for connection on whateverport
[06:20] <daya> n2diy, then o.k
[06:20] <daya> n2diy, any way where r u from
[06:20] <AllenA> oh yeah running edgy, and a treo650
[06:20] <Jerimiah40> Falstius - I'm still mostly going to use XP, but I'd like to just mess around with linux at this point
[06:20] <LineOf7s> Falstius:  Since you're talking about virtual machines so confidently, I'll ask you:  Can I use a virtual machine to run the WinXP I already have installed on my dual-boot machine, or do I need to install it into the virtual machine specifically?
[06:20] <n2diy> daya, USA, Pa.
[06:20] <daya> n2diy, fine me from nepal
[06:21] <n2diy> daya, cool, I'm a Ham Radio
[06:21] <daya> n2diy, are a school boy?
[06:21] <Tonren> I'm desperate, guys.  I've been out of commission for four days.  someone please help.  http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1909152#post1909152
[06:21] <Falstius> LineOf7s: you can with the paid version of vmware virtual server, or so I've heard.
[06:21] <Nemnix> I'm using vmware server at the moment
[06:21] <Nemnix> it's free but you have to register to get a key
[06:22] <LineOf7s> Falstius:  Aaah.  Well that's something.  Thanks.
[06:22] <n2diy> daya, I'm a Ham Radio Operator, and you are my first contact from Nepal!
[06:22] <Jerimiah40> okay, so I think for now I'll use a VM then
[06:22] <Falstius> Jerimiah40: then install linux in a virtual machine.  You use it more if you don't have to reboot in to it.
[06:22] <Maelgwyn> Yes you can from VMWare, but its messy
[06:22] <Jerimiah40> so, from how you're talking I'd assume that "VMWare" is a specific program I could download and use?
[06:22] <daya> n2diy, :)
[06:22] <Nemnix> when I get around to apt-getting some kernel source I'll worry about the vmware tools ;)
[06:22] <hlds> hahahaha silly mE!!
[06:22] <Nemnix> www.vmware.com
[06:22] <hlds> i know why my copy was GENUINE!
[06:22] <Jerimiah40> n2diy - what's your call?
[06:23] <hlds> WRONG CD!!!! hahaha
[06:23] <llindy> jerimiah40, vmware is bad to the bone!
[06:23] <Maelgwyn> Anyway, anyone got my DVD problem?
[06:23] <n2diy> daya, yes I am, I'm still learning at the age of 50, I've been 50 years old for 23 minutes!
[06:23] <Jerimiah40> lol, ok
[06:23] <the_rick> Ok, someone please tell me a GOOD reason NOT to give root a password, because I for the life of me cannot figure out how to login to SWAT without root access.
[06:23] <daya> n2diy, Ham what is it its name of the radio
[06:23] <hlds> funny i crack myself up.
[06:23] <Falstius> Jerimiah40: sorry, yes it is.  VMware player is free for download.  You can download several different pre-built linux virtual machines for it too.
[06:23] <hlds> brb
[06:23] <n2diy> Jerimiah40: n2diy!!!
[06:23] <daya> n2diy, very fascinating
[06:24] <Jerimiah40> ah, that makes sense >.<
[06:24] <Jerimiah40> Falstius - okay
[06:24] <Falstius> Jerimiah40: then once you're addicted to linux and know what you're doing, you'll wipe off that nasty MS stuff.
[06:24] <Jerimiah40> lol
[06:24] <Jerimiah40> At this point, I'm going to go one of two ways.   Vista comes out in January, so I'm going to get Ubuntu now and start learning.  Once Vista comes out, I'm either going to switch to it, or switch to Ubuntu
[06:24] <Music_Shuffle> Yeah...especially after yo uknow what you're doing.
[06:24] <the_rick> Or someone tell me how I can remotely configure my samba shares without root access
[06:25] <Music_Shuffle> Well, with Beryl, you get all the eye candy of Aero too.
[06:25] <lupine_85> Music_Shuffle: and then some! :p
[06:25] <carutsu> vista is not woth
[06:25] <Music_Shuffle> xD
[06:25] <n2diy> daya, fascinating, and the coolest hobby in the world
[06:25] <Jerimiah40> yeah, Beryl is one of the things I want to play with..... I recently saw a video of it
[06:25] <pwn> hi
[06:25] <daya> n2diy, o.k i am working here as system admin and linux developer
[06:25] <pwn> i have a problem installing unbutnu
[06:25] <magic_ninja> how do i get my video card's bus identifier
[06:25] <daya> n2diy, i have to go for work
[06:25] <magic_ninja> pwn: join us all :)
[06:25] <carutsu> Jerimiah40 see this page http://www.linuca.org/body.phtml?nIdNoticia=187
[06:25] <Geoffrey2> hmmm...interesting concept....load a virtual machine in Windows, and then install Ubuntu in the virtual machine.....
[06:25] <daya> n2diy, nice to talk to you
[06:26] <daya> n2diy, you can mail me at<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[06:26] <Maelgwyn> Done that Geoffrey2
[06:26] <magic_ninja> Geoffrey2: its nowhere near as fast though
[06:26] <Falstius> Jerimiah40: here is a ubuntu virtual machine http://www.vmware.com/vmtn/appliances/directory/ubuntu.html
[06:26] <Tonren> I'm desperate, guys.  I've been out of commission for four days.  someone please help.  http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1909152#post1909152
[06:26] <Maelgwyn> Its really good if you need to use Windows primarily
[06:26] <carutsu> can anyone tell me how to make ascii code avalible i mean alt+# for @,..
[06:26] <magic_ninja> Jerimiah40: do you do alot of gaming?
[06:26] <daya> n2diy, hope i will help to solve your coming problems
[06:26] <daya> n2diy, bye
[06:26] <Maelgwyn> I personally use the opposite
[06:26] <daya> n2diy, :)_
[06:26] <Jerimiah40> magic_ninja - practically none
[06:26] <pwn> it doesnt recgonize my screen at the prompt and says my harddrive doesnt have 16398 sectors
[06:26] <pwn> i need to change the cylinders
[06:26] <n2diy> daya, 73, don't work to hard, tnx
[06:26] <Ilovemypuppy> whats the main difference between the server release of 6.06 and 6.10
[06:27] <Jerimiah40> Falstius - wait, you mean it comes preinstalled as ubuntu, I don't need to install it?
[06:27] <mohlert2> ANyone: When I try to play "racing stripes" a dvd in the movie player it gives me the following error - "Totem cannot play this type of media (DVD) because you do not have the appropriate plugins to handle it" -------- "Please install the necessary plugins and restart Totem to be able to play this media"  Can you help me with what is going on?
[06:27] <pwn> i looked at my harddrive manual but i dont know how to change the cylinders
[06:27] <magic_ninja> Jerimiah40: then just install ubuntu dual boot and play with it
[06:27] <carutsu> can anyone tell me how to make ascii code avalible i mean alt+#, like alt+64 for @,..
[06:27] <magic_ninja> i lot the net for like 2 years so i had no updates and stuff
[06:27] <Music_Shuffle> magic_ninja, if he installs Windows over it now, he's going to tear up grub
[06:27] <Jerimiah40> magic_ninja - that's what I was thinking about originally.  Now I'm torn :P
[06:27] <magic_ninja> i just got a laptop did a fresh install of edgy, it still runs good on the old laptop with normal settings and then i put xubuntu on my gaming desktop
[06:27] <Falstius> Jerimiah40: that one does.  You download and install vmware player and then download the virtual machine and open it with vmware player.  Its already installed for you.  I haven't tried that exact one.
[06:27] <Geoffrey2> mohlert2, totem by default can't play encrypted DVDs
[06:28] <magic_ninja> its really easy to use and does a great job of autodetecting hardware
[06:28] <Jerimiah40> Falstius - ah, okay
[06:28] <AllenA> anyone in here familiar with pilot-link, if not can anyone direct me somewhere more appropriate or recommend another palm toolset?
[06:28] <magic_ninja> you will probably have some codec issues for playing movies and music...but thats ok its pretty easy to fix
[06:28] <magic_ninja> and you will love the meathods of downloading software
[06:29] <magic_ninja> Music_Shuffle: boot with a win98 boot disk and fdisk /y and it will fix the bootloader
[06:29] <carutsu> can anyone tell me how to make ascii code avalible i mean alt+#, like alt+64 for @,..
[06:29] <Falstius> Jerimiah40: the main weakness of virtual machines is the graphics.   You should be able to run aiglx and beryl though if you have a fast machine.
[06:29] <Jerimiah40> Falstius - define fast?
[06:29] <hlds> im back
[06:29] <magic_ninja> whats so special about beryl
[06:29] <magic_ninja> it makes windows all bubbly?
[06:29] <Jerimiah40> I've got 2.2GHz athlon 64, 512MB RAM, integrated graphics
[06:29] <Geoffrey2> Ilovemypuppy, biggest differences are that 6.10 has a more recent linux kernel, a more recent version of Gnome, and supports Firefox 2.0
[06:29] <Music_Shuffle> Its really cool?
[06:29] <Music_Shuffle> Lol.
[06:29] <lupine_85> magic_ninja: what's so special about X?
[06:29] <lupine_85> it makes consoles all glitzy? :p
[06:29] <Music_Shuffle> lolol
[06:30] <mohlert2> Feoffrey2:  then what do I need to do?  Installed some codecs through terminal like I was told and it would play the first 20 minutes or so of a dvd.  Now it don't play the dvd at all.........Help!  I am new to Linux Edgy 6.10..
[06:30] <carutsu> i like beryl
[06:30] <lupine_85> it's all eyecandy in the end
[06:30] <hlds> i have a AMD Athlon 64 3000+ 2.00Ghz
[06:30] <noodles12> is it unreasonable to want a vnc connection that isn't painfully slow using a wireless connection to a wired lan computer? By slow i mean sometimes i have to use my mouse as a magic "paintbrush" to show a new window that opened.
[06:30] <lupine_85> but beryl does have some real usability improvements
[06:30] <magic_ninja> sorry accidently closed xchat
[06:30] <hlds> 1GIG RAm.
[06:30] <hlds> nVIDIA geforce.
[06:30] <Music_Shuffle> hlds, and what about it again...?
[06:30] <lupine_85> :p 1.5GB RAM so ner
[06:30] <hlds> iono lol im just making up stuff im bored.
[06:31] <hlds> lol
[06:31] <Geoffrey2> magic_ninja, my biggest problem is that my wireless doesn't like to play nice with Ubuntu...if I decided to run Ubuntu under Windows, I could, I believe, use the native windows drivers for the wireless, which I would hope would take care of the problem
[06:31] <Music_Shuffle> Well, this IS a help channel :P
[06:31] <carutsu> nobody knows?
[06:31] <Ilovemypuppy> Geoffrey2, no big deal there, im more worried about things like apache, dovecot, squirrelmail, and postfix
[06:31] <the_rick> noodles12: My experience with VNC is that just happens on certain systems.  Nothing to do with network connection
[06:31] <hlds> does any of u know how to hack my LAN conection?
[06:31] <hlds> like my brothers pc?
[06:31] <magic_ninja> Geoffrey2: i'm going to set up a wireless network for my laptop but i don't have $$$ for parts
[06:32] <Jerimiah40> so, to summarize: I have an OEM copy of XP installed and running, and I want to be able to run Ubuntu as well.  What is the best way to do it, dual-boot or VM?
[06:32] <lupine_85> hlds: yeah. His I Pwill be <IP_ADDRESS>
[06:32] <noodles12> the_rick: did you use freenx instead to get those systems to work normally? the server is a dell using xp and the client is an asus laptop running edgy.
[06:32] <hlds> magic all u need is $40
[06:32] <Ilovemypuppy> hlds, just watch the movie "hackers" and itll teach you everything you need to know.
[06:32] <carutsu> can anyone tell me how to make ascii code avalible i mean alt+#, like alt+64 for @,..
[06:32] <hlds> lupine can u exploain more plz?
[06:32] <Aggrav8d> hello.  how do i list installed packages so i can remove/reinstall a package?
[06:32] <sloof3|arr> When my screen is blanked the backlight never comes back on when it should.
[06:32] <the_rick> noodles12: I have to use VNC so much at work that I've kinda gotten used to it
[06:33] <Falstius> Jerimiah40: for your first try, VM.  It is 100% safe.  After you're more comfortable you might want to dual boot.  You should have a gig of ram though, atleast 756MB.
[06:33] <lupine_85> hldz: you need to get a hammer and smash <IP_ADDRESS> to pieces. Then you can pick all the juicy pr0nz out of the remains
[06:33] <the_rick> :(
[06:33] <sloof3|arr> Aggrav8d: dpkg --get-selections
[06:33] <Falstius> goodnight.
[06:33] <n2diy> hlds, sure, pull the circuit breaken in the basement. :)
[06:33] <Aggrav8d> i fscked my mysql root access and need to reinstall it
[06:33] <noodles12> the_rick: =/.. do u use vnc tunneled through ssh?
[06:33] <lupine_85> Falstius: ubuntu runs fine on 256MB ram
[06:33] <hlds> wtf u guys talking about?
[06:33] <Ilovemypuppy> hlds, if you REALLY want to hack him, urinate on his computer while it's on
[06:33] <Jerimiah40> hlds - Ubuntu.  It's the topic of this room, kinda
[06:34] <the_rick> noodles12: No, usually use the encryption plugin it comes with if necessary
[06:34] <hlds> i know i was wondering if u can do it in ubuntu
[06:34] <syte> do what in ubuntu?
[06:34] <n2diy> breaken/breaker
[06:34] <hlds> i know i can do somethng when he is not here but i cant never acess it.
[06:34] <lupine_85> *sigh*
[06:34] <lupine_85> !hack
[06:34] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about hack - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:34] <lupine_85> bah
[06:34] <lupine_85> !hacking
[06:34] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about hacking - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:34] <Ilovemypuppy> hlds, urine can break through any firewall
[06:34] <lupine_85> ubotu--
[06:34] <syte> !doom
[06:34] <ubotu> Information about games on Ubuntu can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Games and http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php and ubuntugames.org
[06:34] <n2diy> hlds, is he running linux too?
[06:34] <hlds> ok lemme say the truth..
[06:35] <carutsu> !ascii
[06:35] <hlds> We rent a room and we lock the renters door to our house.
[06:35] <ubotu> ascii: interactive ASCII name and synonym chart. In component universe, is optional. Version 3.8-3 (edgy), package size 15 kB, installed size 72 kB
[06:35] <hlds> he has a pc and i conecred router to him too.
[06:35] <hlds> and he is running XP.
[06:35] <syte> omg
[06:35] <hlds> i would like to have control of his pc.
[06:35] <Aggrav8d> ok, reinstalling it didn't work.  how would i reset the mysql root password?
[06:35] <the_rick> bwahaha
[06:35] <lupine_85> *sigh*
[06:35] <syte> someone with the ip <IP_ADDRESS> is messing with me
[06:36] <syte> i'm scared :(
[06:36] <lupine_85> this place has sure gone downhill
[06:36] <syte> !!!
[06:36] <Aggrav8d> it went up?
[06:36] <noodles12> lol
[06:36] <Aggrav8d> i would imagine going downhill is a lot easier.
[06:36] <tonyyarusso> lupine_85: (hacking is offtopic for freenode, btw, unless you're trying to find out how to avoid it)
[06:36] <Aggrav8d> and people would be yelling "whee!" most of the way
[06:36] <lupine_85> heh
[06:36] <the_rick> bwahahaha...
[06:36] <lupine_85> I hack all the time
[06:36] <lupine_85> not ^ that sort ^ though
[06:36] <hlds> is not illegal to hack my own network.
[06:36] <hlds> and dars wut im asking.
[06:37] <lupine_85> hlds: what country are you in?
[06:37] <the_rick> yesterday, I saw someone chown the entire /var directory, today it is "I want to hack LAN"
[06:37] <bobkat> hello people, bobkat here. New to the xchat
[06:37] <Music_Shuffle> Hello.
[06:37] <cyber> hi guys, is there a way i could sync my clocks using terminal? a command in other words, cause clicking sync in the date and tiem manager isnt helping
[06:37] <Aggrav8d> how do i clean remove mysql so when i reinstall it i can set the root pw?
[06:37] <n2diy> hlds, you are trying to hack your brother box!
[06:37] <frogzoo> Cyber_Linux: why not just enable ntp?
[06:38] <Cyber_Linux> well frogzoo when i clicked sync, it installed it
[06:38] <n2diy> hlds' and that ain't hacking, that is cracking.
[06:38] <Cyber_Linux> but its not synced :? its a whole day off
[06:38] <P3L|C4N0> greetings
[06:38] <frogzoo> Cyber_Linux: now select a couple of closish ntp servers, & select autoupdate
[06:38] <lupine_85> hlds: California?
[06:38] <buitenzorg812_> hello guys, are there anyone who had experience of having trouble with your rhtyhmbox after upgrading from dapper to edgy?
[06:38] <lupine_85> You'll be breaking several laws by hax0ring a box that isn't your property
[06:39] <lupine_85> including the Patriot Act, most likely
[06:39] <Kruger> hi all
[06:39] <the_rick> I know that someone out of the 852 people in here must be using SWAT...
[06:39] <Kruger>  anybody know about a open source software for PBX call accounting ?
[06:39] <lupine_85> Kruger: asterisk? :p
[06:39] <Ardonik> Kruger: Asterisk, maybe.
[06:39] <frogzoo> !anyone | the_rick
[06:39] <ubotu> the_rick: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[06:39] <Cyber_Linux> lool
[06:39] <rob> Kruger: try asterisk@home (trixbox)
[06:39] <nothlit> does anyone know what 'no swt-pi-gtk-3235 in java.library.path' means if i've installed libswt already?
[06:40] <the_rick> well, I've asked the question before and !no one answered it
[06:40] <Kruger> but, for analog phone
[06:40] <Cyber_Linux> frogzoo, how do i get it to sync correctly, ntp is installed
[06:40] <Kruger> not VoIP
[06:40] <lupine_85> Kruger: yep, asterisk can do that too
[06:40] <the_rick> Is it possible to use SWAT in Ubuntu to administer samba shares?  I can't login through the web page as root
[06:40] <n2diy> Kruger, I think it is called asterik
[06:40] <lupine_85> if you're using a proprietary hardware PBX, then you'll need proprietary software...
[06:41] <Kruger> hmmmm
[06:41] <lupine_85> but asterisk can do call accounting /and/ LCR :D
[06:41] <Kruger> ok thanks
[06:41] <the_rick> frogzoo: I'm fairly new to Ubuntu and trying to keep from giving root a password.  Is it possible to configure SWAT without giving root a password?
[06:41] <lupine_85> it can interface to analogue lines, and it also a lot cheaper to run
[06:41] <n2diy> Asterix, or Asterik is OO PBX software.
[06:42] <lupine_85> Asterisk
[06:42] <lupine_85> aka. *
[06:42] <carutsu> although some support from companies would be great
[06:42] <carutsu> wrong topic
[06:42] <carutsu> can anyone tell me how to make ascii code avalible i mean alt+#, like alt+64 for @,..
[06:42] <n2diy> lupine_85:  ok, that works.
[06:42] <lupine_85> carutsu: AltGr + a key tends to work:  :p
[06:43] <frogzoo> carutsu: many options - install alternate keyboard, (with deadkeys maybe), and sys -> prefs -> keyboard
[06:43] <lupine_85> you can altgr+shift+ a key@
[06:43] <carutsu> i need tildes and the n~
[06:44] <the_rick> I know this shouldn't be that hard.
[06:44] <carutsu> so alt+# willn't work?
[06:44] <the_rick> but I cannot find anything on the net about getting SWAT to work without giving root a password in Ubuntu
[06:44] <lupine_85> carutsu: doesn't work here
[06:44] <Cyber_Linux> frogzoo, how do i get an ntp gui up? i have ntp installed, but yeam it auto installed so i dont know what i should do frmo here
[06:45] <Cyber_Linux> lol
[06:45] <the_rick> ok, none of those worked...
[06:45] <carutsu> lupine_85 too bad
[06:45] <the_rick> Is anyone using SWAT?
[06:45] <Cyber_Linux> frogzoo, never mind, i think i found my solution
[06:45] <flip> hey quick question -- is there any issue w/ using PCF fonts in ubuntu? i installed shine.pcf into my /usr/share/X11/fonts/misc or wherever fixed was... ran mkfontdir and xset fp rehash and i cant use it.. ive tried several now
[06:45] <the_rick> :)
[06:45] <Kruger> bye
[06:45] <Seamus7> Hi.... my system froze after rebooting ... I booted into recovery mode and got "BUG: soft lockup detected on CPU#0!"  .... I'm have a Centrino Core 2 Duo and using Edgy ... ???
[06:45] <lupine_85> flip: ~/.fonts
[06:46] <flip> lupine_85: ok lemmie try
[06:46] <dayar> rapid, can u tell me can i upgare ubuntu of earlier version by current one
[06:46] <dayar> rapid, using the live cd
[06:46] <the_rick> Ok, flip side...What are the reasons (if any) that I should not give root a password?
[06:46] <flip> lupine_85: negative.
[06:47] <lupine_85> the_rick: paranoia
[06:47] <lupine_85> following the Ubuntu party line
[06:47] <frogzoo> the_rick: it makes remote password cracking a lot easier
[06:47] <lupine_85> frogzoo: since when?
[06:47] <LineOf7s> !printing
[06:47] <ubotu> Printing in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows
[06:47] <dayar> can i upgrade ubuntu without lossing my data?
[06:47] <frogzoo> lupine_85: since they know to try 'root' as an account name
[06:47] <lupine_85> dayar: yep
[06:47] <rapid> dayar: what makes you ask me?
[06:47] <lupine_85> frogzoo: Since when did anyone with any sense enable logging in remotely as root?
[06:48] <n2diy> Seamus7: Your using new hardware, and edgy software, you are living on the edge.
[06:48] <frogzoo> lupine_85: easiest to just leave it disable & require sudo
[06:48] <magic_ninja> do i wanna use kernel framebuffering
[06:48] <flip> lupine_85: any other ideas... moved my fonts there... mkfontdir xset fp rehash xterm -fn shine no go
[06:48] <lupine_85> frogzoo: even when sudo is inadequate? :p
[06:48] <dayar> lupine_85, i mean can i upgrade my pc with recent version of the ubuntu that contains old ver.
[06:48] <Seamus7> n2diy: ok ... but i've not had this problem previously with my hardware on Edgy.
[06:48] <lupine_85> dayar: as long as you don't skip a version, sure
[06:49] <dayar> lupine_85, without lossing my data
[06:49] <frogzoo> lupine_85: what can't you do with sudo that you need root access for?
[06:49] <lupine_85> e.g. go breezy->dapper->edgy, not breezy->edgy
[06:49] <dayar> lupine_85, i didnt
[06:49] <the_rick> frogzoo: Log into SWAT
[06:49] <lupine_85> [05:44]  <the_rick> but I cannot find anything on the net about getting SWAT to work without giving root a password in Ubuntu
[06:49] <dayar> lupine_85, get u
[06:49] <n2diy> Seamus, ok, what else has changed?
[06:49] <rapid> dayar: ?
[06:49] <lupine_85> plus, sudo breaks very easily
[06:49] <dayar> rapid, can i upgrade ubuntu with recent ver.
[06:50] <the_rick> frogzoo: Err, log in and have admin access to configure shares
[06:50] <lupine_85> fixing it without a root password generally involves a reboot
[06:50] <dayar> rapid, that contains old ver.
[06:50] <frogzoo> the_rick: sudo -i
[06:50] <lupine_85> that is /not good/ on a production server
[06:50] <rapid> dayar: it appears that was just answered.
[06:50] <Seamus7> n2diy: I just installed some packages to monitor cpu temp and fan???
[06:50] <dayar> rapid, without lossing data.
[06:50] <flip> is dpkg-reconfigure fontconfig supposed to present me w/ options?  like enabling Bitmap font support?  it just does a dance and returns me to the prompt :F
[06:50] <rapid> dayar: don't format.
[06:50] <PORDO> anyone know of a good dmix guide for ubuntu?
[06:50] <dayar> rapid, i didn't get
[06:50] <Seamus7> n2diy: I then rebooted and that's when my computer froze and I got the error in the recovery mode.
[06:51] <lupine_85> anyway, it certainly doesn't make your system less secure
[06:51] <the_rick> frogzoo: I specifically meant the web access
[06:51] <dayar> rapid, then how can i install
[06:51] <dayar> rapid, recent ver
[06:52] <jakub_> hello
[06:52] <jakub_> i have a problem with a chinese file that i have mounted via samba
[06:52] <Music_Shuffle> hai2u2.
[06:52] <Seamus7> n2diy: I'm wondering what I can use to uninstall those packages?
[06:53] <jakub_> what fonts would i need to view chinese files properly on the command line?
[06:53] <jakub_> so /mnt/mount/mandarin/????.doc is what i want to copy over to my home directory
[06:53] <dayar> lupine_85, have u understand my questions
[06:53] <jakub_> i can stat the file, but i can't copy the file because cp says stat failed
[06:53] <n2diy> Seamus7:  How did you install them, with synaptic, dpkg?
[06:53] <phos-phoros> I did it!
[06:54] <Seamus7> n2diy: via the terminal
[06:54] <lupine_85> dayar: not really, now.
[06:54] <Seamus7> n2diy: apt-get
[06:54] <lupine_85> no*
[06:54] <jakub_> hello?
[06:54] <ChevronX> I  just installed Beryl using this guide(http://lhansen.blogspot.com/2006/10/3d-desktop-beryl-and-xgl-on-ubuntu-edgy.html) , now I have lost my top menu bar. What do I do?
[06:54] <rajshekhar> can anyone tell me about BIND9
[06:54] <lupine_85> !bind
[06:54] <ubotu> bind: Internet Domain Name Server. In component universe, is extra. Version 1:8.4.6-1 (edgy), package size 888 kB, installed size 2092 kB
[06:54] <ChevronX> I lost my menu bars in every application
[06:55] <rapid> about that much ^ and to read bind howto
[06:55] <gpd> my snowflakes are square - despite chosing different png (beryl)
[06:55] <lupine_85> it's a bit complicated to go into the full workings of it... plenty of how-to's around, though :)
[06:55] <lupine_85> !bind9
[06:55] <ubotu> bind9: Internet Domain Name Server. In component main, is optional. Version 1:9.3.2-2ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 292 kB, installed size 724 kB
[06:55] <lupine_85> better :)
[06:55] <hlds> lupine_85?
[06:55] <n2diy> Seamus7:  fine business, then use the terminal to uninstall them, dpkp -r (package)
[06:55] <hlds> can u now help me?
[06:55] <lupine_85> [05:54]  <rajshekhar> can anyone tell me about BIND9
[06:55] <lupine_85> well, no
[06:55] <Aggrav8d> does anyone know how i can delete *all* the mysql table data without logging into mysql?
[06:55] <flip> Is anyone using a PCF terminal font in here for rxvt or xterm?
[06:55] <lupine_85> explain why I should become an accomplice to your illegal actions?
[06:55] <Aggrav8d> i fsck'd my root mysql access. :P
[06:55] <hlds> is not illegal.
[06:55] <Seamus7> n2diy: can I do this in recovery mode? I think my system is freezing once it gets to the error message?
[06:56] <lupine_85> is too :p
[06:56] <flip> lupine_85: whats illegal
[06:56] <ChevronX> I  just installed Beryl using this guide(http://lhansen.blogspot.com/2006/10/3d-desktop-beryl-and-xgl-on-ubuntu-edgy.html) , now I have lost my top menu bar. What do I do?
[06:56] <hlds> is just hacing control over my LAN
[06:56] <rajshekhar> ubotu : i install bind now tell me about how bind used
[06:56] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about how bind used - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:56] <lupine_85> he wants to hax0r a PC that doesn't belong to him
[06:56] <n2diy> Seamus7: i don't know that.
[06:56] <hlds> IS MY PC!
[06:56] <hlds> IS ON MY LAN
[06:56] <flip> hlds: what do you want to know
[06:56] <hlds> my house
[06:56] <flip> relax borrat
[06:56] <flip> calm yourself
[06:56] <lupine_85> if it's your pc on your lan, why do you need to 'hack' it?
[06:56] <lupine_85> just say 'let me on my PC'
[06:56] <hlds> i just want to have control over my lan
[06:56] <Seamus7> n2diy: ok well thx ... i'm going to reboot and see if I can get a prompt in recovery mode in order to do the uninstallations
[06:56] <lupine_85> srsly d00d, j00 sux
[06:57] <dayar> lupine_85, just one question , can i use apt-get update, apt-get upgrade
[06:57] <hlds> theres a pc i cant get it too.
[06:57] <Tango_Down> Hello, I have an ATI rage card with 128 MB of ram. I have the r128 drivers installed. When I try and start GLX gears I find that I get approximatly 1 frame every 3 seconds. Admitadly, my hardware is old. ( a 480mhz with 256 megs of ram) but I should be able to do better than a frame every couple of seconds.
[06:57] <dayar> lupine_85, or can i directly use cd
[06:57] <jakub_> can someone please my question? it has nothing to do with hacking, and is a legitimate question
[06:57] <hlds> because room is locked.
[06:57] <lupine_85> dayar: either. but it's dist-upgrade
[06:57] <lupine_85> oh noes!
[06:57] <flip> hlds: then tell your gf you want the key back?
[06:57] <Music_Shuffle> lol.
[06:57] <lupine_85> it's your house. demand that the door be unlocked
[06:57] <ChevronX> I  just installed Beryl using this guide(http://lhansen.blogspot.com/2006/10/3d-desktop-beryl-and-xgl-on-ubuntu-edgy.html) , now I have lost my top menu bar. What do I do?
[06:57] <lupine_85> either way, it's offtopic
[06:57] <flip> hlds: theres a PC in your house.. on your lan... you cant get to because the room is locked?
[06:57] <hlds>  we rent dat room.
[06:57] <Seamus7> Anyone know what "BUG: soft lockup detected on CPU#0" means ... I get this in recovery mode on Edgy.
[06:57] <flip> hlds: and you want what?
[06:57] <n2diy> Seamus7: Good luck
[06:57] <Seamus7> n2diy:thx
[06:57] <hlds> have acess ovr it.
[06:58] <Music_Shuffle> Then it doesn't belong to you...the PC anyways...
[06:58] <Music_Shuffle> Right?
[06:58] <flip> hlds: what does it run?
[06:58] <Cyber_Linux> where are the ops to ban people like hlds
[06:58] <hlds> xp.
[06:58] <lupine_85> !ops
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[06:58] <Music_Shuffle> !ops
[06:58] <lupine_85> :p
[06:58] <Music_Shuffle> Pssh. Cheats.
[06:58] <Music_Shuffle> :P
[06:58] <hlds> dude u guys are rude is not ilegal if its in my home.
[06:58] <lupine_85> it is
[06:58] <Cyber_Linux> hlds,
[06:58] <Cyber_Linux> its illegal
[06:58] <Music_Shuffle> News flash, its not your machine!
[06:58] <Cyber_Linux> nuff said
[06:58] <ChevronX> I  just installed Beryl using this guide(http://lhansen.blogspot.com/2006/10/3d-desktop-beryl-and-xgl-on-ubuntu-edgy.html) , now I have lost my top menu bar. What do I do?
[06:58] <flip> hlds: start | programs | accessories | communcations | remote desktop client
[06:58] <jakub_> jesus, quite feeding the troll
[06:58] <Cyber_Linux> and secondly this is a supprt channel
[06:58] <lupine_85> when was the last time you sat down and read your country's laws?
[06:58] <flip> hlds: type in IP; and connect
[06:58] <Cyber_Linux> not teach x n00b how to hack
[06:58] <hlds> yea i tried dat lol.
[06:59] <Music_Shuffle> jakub_, sorry, I have no idea for the language packs.
[06:59] <hlds> i know how to hacl.
[06:59] <hlds> hack.
[06:59] <rajshekhar> ubotu : become a administrator what i do?
[06:59] <jakub_> Music_Shuffle: thanks anyway
[06:59] <lupine_85> rob: hax0rin b0xen isn't exactly on-topic, wot? :p
[06:59] <rapid> rajshekhar, ubotu is a bot
[06:59] <Music_Shuffle> rajshekhar, ubotu is...a bot..
[06:59] <dayar> lupine_85, if i run dist-upgrade is all the application upgraded?
[06:59] <hlds> NVM u guys not helping just making fun of me.
[06:59] <lupine_85> dayar: yep
[06:59] <Madpilot> ubotu, sudo | rajshekhar
[06:59] <ubotu> rajshekhar: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[06:59] <hlds> thx anyways.
[06:59] <rob> lupine_85: well if he is just trying to recover his own pc, its not exactly hacking
[06:59] <Cyber_Linux> rob, hlds would like some one to show him how to hack a machine on his lan he claims he owns it
[06:59] <flip> i cant imagine that using PCF fonts just faded away one day
[06:59] <Music_Shuffle> rob, its...not his.
[07:00] <frogzoo> Music_Shuffle: you don't know that
[07:00] <llindy> awwe, holds,  Im not
[07:00] <hlds> is mine1
[07:00] <lupine_85> rob: it's his, for a given value of his. that given value being that it's attached to his LAN
[07:00] <Cyber_Linux> lol
[07:00] <ChevronX> I  just installed Beryl using this guide(http://lhansen.blogspot.com/2006/10/3d-desktop-beryl-and-xgl-on-ubuntu-edgy.html) , now I have lost my top menu bar. What do I do?
[07:00] <rob> hlds: simply google it, read a book, you won't get an answer on doing that here
[07:00] <flip> hlds: knock on the rented door
[07:00] <Music_Shuffle> Yeah. True. But I don't think it is, so I'm not going to help him.
[07:00] <lupine_85> but when it's behind a locked door and is owned by someone else, it becomes not his
[07:00] <Cyber_Linux> yea, but its behind a locked door to a room that he supposedly owns 2
[07:00] <Music_Shuffle> Hahaha yeah.
[07:00] <hlds> dude is my router MY house MY property and my PC
[07:00] <lupine_85> then you DON'T need to hack it
[07:00] <frogzoo> Music_Shuffle: sure, your choice, but not grounds for a banning
[07:00] <rob> hlds: yep, is off topic here
[07:00] <hlds> my conection
[07:01] <Music_Shuffle> Then open the door and stop asking here...other people are asking for LEGIT help.
[07:01] <Tango_Down> Then ask politely and MOVE YOUR PC!
[07:01] <carutsu> is there a way to change the screensaver everytime it shows up?
[07:01] <ThePub> anyone know where I change the mime assocation of a file?  (*not* the application association)
[07:01] <flip> hlds: THEN KICK THE F;N DOOR IN *!@&)(!&@)(*!&@)(!&@)
[07:01] <lupine_85> soliciting aid in illegal activities is definitely off-topic
[07:01] <Cyber_Linux> lol
[07:01] <Music_Shuffle> And they might even NEED it. Because I remember coming here and actually needing help.
[07:01] <n2diy> hlds, unplug him!?!?
[07:01] <Madpilot> caradhras, yes, there's a random mode
[07:01] <frogzoo> carutsu: sys -> prefs -> screensaver
[07:01] <jakub_> if it's offtopic why is it still being discussed?
[07:01] <hlds> hahah ive done dat.
[07:01] <wasabi__> how come there are no ops on this channel?
[07:01] <flip> Music_Shuffle: same here... havent fixed it yet
[07:01] <ChevronX> This is what I hate about Ubuntu, the support
[07:01] <hlds> he knocks in my door.
[07:01] <Music_Shuffle> ChevronX, you're running Emerald?
[07:01] <Cyber_Linux> there is proof
[07:01] <hlds> he is right behind me.
[07:01] <Cyber_Linux> hah
[07:01] <ChevronX> I think so
[07:01] <flip> ChevronX: get a refund.
[07:01] <jakub_> ChevronX: amen
[07:01] <carutsu> frogzoo i cant find a random mode
[07:01] <Cyber_Linux> just admited its not his machine
[07:01] <Flick> hello
[07:01] <Music_Shuffle> Lol. THe support is great, you got shafted by timing, sorry. I just set up Beryl myself actually. ^^
[07:01] <hlds> is mine but he gets mad when i discinect him./
[07:02] <frogzoo> carutsu: oh it's gone - mebbe try xscreensaver
[07:02] <lupine_85> *sigh*
[07:02] <hlds> how is dat saying is not mine.
[07:02] <wasabi__> anyone run counter strike source using cedega?
[07:02] <n2diy> hlds, he knocks in your door!? Call the cops!
[07:02] <lupine_85>  /ignore hlds
[07:02] <carutsu> frogzoo it;s gone?
[07:02] <lupine_85> al is bliss
[07:02] <syte> Sorry, i'm new to linux. What is the command that lets u login to someone elses ssh server
[07:02] <Cyber_Linux> lol
[07:02] <syte> :(
[07:02] <wasabi__> i am wondering if the frame rate suffers
[07:02] <Music_Shuffle> ChevronX, yeah that guide didn't work for me.
[07:02] <dellthinker> Anyone good with c++ ?
[07:02] <Madpilot> synchk, 'man ssh'
[07:02] <Music_Shuffle> ChevronX, http://doc.gwos.org/index.php/BerylOnEdgy
[07:02] <ChevronX> Do you know how to fix it?
[07:02] <Cyber_Linux> syte, have you tried ssh <ip> ?
[07:02] <Flick> i just took the Jum from 6.06 + XGL to 6.10 AiGLX
[07:02] <Cyber_Linux> :P
[07:02] <Madpilot> syte, man ssh
[07:02] <hlds> alrighty sorry guys ill just shut up.
[07:02] <lupine_85> dellthinker: there's a ##c++ that might be better
[07:02] <Music_Shuffle> I just set mine up with that not 2 hours ago.
[07:02] <Tango_Down> Hello, I have an ATI rage card with 128 MB of ram. I have the r128 drivers installed. When I try and start GLX gears I find that I get approximatly 1 frame every 3 seconds. Admitadly, my hardware is old. ( a 480mhz with 256 megs of ram) but I should be able to do better than a frame every couple of seconds
[07:02] <jakub_> dellthinker: yes, but it's offtopic in here, please go to ##c++
[07:02] <flip> jesus
[07:02] <ChevronX> thx
[07:02] <dellthinker> ty
[07:02] <frogzoo> carutsu: scroll to top - select 'random'
[07:03] <Music_Shuffle> Good luck! Its well worth it ;)
[07:03] <n2diy> lupine_85:  what does ignore /XXXX do?
[07:03] <lupine_85> ignores XXXX nickname
[07:03] <Music_Shuffle> You don't see that person's comments.
[07:03] <syte> cyber linux, i've tried that
[07:03] <jakub_> Tango_Down: you probably don't have direct rendering: try glxinfo | grep rendering
[07:03] <lupine_85> second-best after a ban/kline
[07:03] <rajshekhar> for linux administrator which institute would i refer
[07:03] <Music_Shuffle> What does GLX gears even do?
[07:03] <syte> it didnt work it asked me for the ip's password
[07:03] <B_166-ER-X> whats the command to list the running processes ? (like on a frozen cd-rom) ?
[07:03] <Flick> AiGLX is so much better than XGL and simpler to set up
[07:03] <Cyber_Linux> syte, "man ssh"
[07:03] <lupine_85> rajshekhar: qualifications-wise, the LPI
[07:03] <syte> i have an ssh server as well
[07:03] <Music_Shuffle> Yeah, much simpler.
[07:03] <Tango_Down> Thank you.
[07:03] <lupine_85> linux professionals institute
[07:03] <Music_Shuffle> Anyone? GLXGears does...?
[07:04] <hlds> Thx people for everything lol.
[07:04] <Music_Shuffle> Watching the gears, I just see no point to it. >.>
[07:04] <jakub_> Music_Shuffle: it displays a simple OpenGL program that has three rotating gears
[07:04] <Flick> GLX Gears is realy just to show you that your OpenGL is working
[07:04] <Cyber_Linux> syte, if it asked for password give it one, otherwise im assuming ure not ment to be connecting :P
[07:04] <jakub_> Music_Shuffle: it's to test if your opengl + direct rendering is intact
[07:04] <hlds> ill just go ask for my pc back.
[07:04] <Music_Shuffle> Oh, so there's no cool readout or anything?
[07:04] <Aggrav8d> please, somebody, i'm going nuts.   i destroyed my installed copy of mysql and i need to do a clean reinstall.  can someone walk me through the process?
[07:04] <rajshekhar> iupine 85 :where it is
[07:04] <llindy> bye4now guys
[07:04] <rapid> Aggrav8d, i'm sure there are docs designed fort his
[07:04] <Flick> there was a read out on 6.06 but but in 6.10 i dont get a read out
[07:04] <carutsu> frogzoo i found it, its on others or somethign
[07:04] <Aggrav8d> rapid - i can't find 'em.
[07:04] <n2diy> hlds, then you have to knock in his door?
[07:05] <lupine_85> Aggrav8d: apt-get remove --purge (package) && apt-get install (package)
[07:05] <Music_Shuffle> Aggrav8d, wish I could help, but I have no idea about MySQL, sorry.
[07:05] <carutsu> thank you
[07:05] <Flick> if GLX Gears dose not lag at all then its fine
[07:05] <rapid> Aggrav8d, try that.
[07:05] <Tango_Down> Correct direct rendering is not operational.
[07:05] <hlds> is not his door is my house lol.
[07:05] <Music_Shuffle> Flick, oh good.
[07:05] <jakub_> Agrajag: after you apt-get remove the mysql installation. locate mysql and remove pretty much every file that doesn't seem like it should exist (like configuration files, etc.)
[07:05] <Cyber_Linux> n2diy, leave him b
[07:05] <Tango_Down> Any advice on how to activate it?
[07:05] <zaatar> hey, how do i make a process stay running after i close the terminal?
[07:05] <hlds> my dad wants me to let him borow a pc.
[07:05] <jakub_> zaatar: check out screen
[07:05] <lupine_85> zaatar: exec <command>
[07:05] <rapid> zaatar, add a & at the end of the command
[07:05] <lupine_85> or use screen :D
[07:05] <lupine_85> rapid: that won't work
[07:05] <rapid> why?
[07:05] <rapid> yes it does
[07:05] <zaatar> yeah & doesn't work
[07:05] <lupine_85> the program will be terminated with it's parent
[07:05] <jakub_> because the backgroudned process ends at the end o the session
[07:05] <lupine_85> try it
[07:06] <zaatar> i did
[07:06] <rajshekhar> lupine_85 : where is LPI
[07:06] <n2diy> Cyber_Linux: 10-4
[07:06] <rapid> It works on my distribution
[07:06] <lupine_85> rajshekhar: no idea
[07:06] <lupine_85> google knows
[07:06] <Cyber_Linux> lol n2diy  :P
[07:06] <jakub_> lupine_85: if he's on BSD, then it should work...
[07:06] <lupine_85> rapid: your distro is...?
[07:06] <ThePub> rapid: it will only work if it's an autospawning process.
[07:06] <Cyber_Linux> dont want to spark it off again
[07:06] <carutsu> can anyone remind me how to cancel a sheduled shutdown?
[07:06] <rapid> lupine_85, slackware.
[07:06] <lupine_85> and this channel is...
[07:06] <ThePub> rapid: meaning.. when you kill the terminal the applicaqtion does quit, but respawns again.
[07:06] <Cyber_Linux> LOL
[07:06] <Cyber_Linux> BEAWHAHWAHA
[07:06] <jakub_> whoa, i don't think linux supports that at the kernel level rapid
[07:06] <Flick> if you are usning Nvidia gra[phis just install AutoMatix and install the Nvidia drivers with that then they should be set up and working
[07:06] <frogzoo> carutsu: atrm ?
[07:07] <Music_Shuffle> !automatix
[07:07] <ubotu> automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[07:07] <lupine_85> !automatix
[07:07] <rapid> jakub_, it does!
[07:07] <Flick> u will have to restart X after installing the drivers to turn them on
[07:07] <Music_Shuffle> HAH! MY WIN!
[07:07] <Music_Shuffle> ^^
[07:07] <carutsu> frogzoo atrm? wasnt shutdown -someletter
[07:07] <lupine_85> better, just sudo apt-get install nvidia-glzx
[07:07] <lupine_85> erm, nvidia-glx
[07:07] <Cyber_Linux> :P
[07:07] <jakub_> rapid: not according to what i've read about it. but if you're a staunch advocate for it, i'll go test on my slackware box later tonight
[07:07] <Cyber_Linux> spelling ftl
[07:07] <frogzoo> carutsu: -c
[07:07] <frogzoo> carutsu: also, man shutdown
[07:07] <Music_Shuffle> lupine_85, what for now?
[07:07] <rapid> jakub_, you do that :)
[07:07] <ThePub> rapid: & is a bash command to background an application, it's still tied to the bash process that started it though.
[07:07] <jakub_> anyway, now that (hopefully) the trolls have left, can someone please answer my question?
[07:08] <the_rick> hlds: What OS you running?
[07:08] <Flick> Lupin: doing the Apt-get may not all ways work for evry body
[07:08] <carutsu> frogzoo the problem is i dont know how to get out of a man
[07:08] <jakub_> i have a problem with a chinese file that i have mounted via samba
[07:08] <jakub_> what fonts would i need to view chinese files properly on the command line?
[07:08] <frogzoo> carutsu: q
[07:08] <jakub_> so /mnt/mount/mandarin/????.doc is what i want to copy over to my home directory
[07:08] <dellthinker> nmap
[07:08] <lupine_85> Flick: doing it the automatix way will screw it for many people
[07:08] <jakub_> i can stat the file, but i can't copy the file because cp says stat failed
[07:08] <Flick> it didnt work for my friend but Automatix did
[07:08] <carutsu> frogzoo lol thank you
[07:08] <frogzoo> carutsu: also, man less
[07:08] <Music_Shuffle> Yeah, but don't recommend it HERE was lupine_85's point.
[07:08] <lupine_85> but apt-get + a couple of edits to /etc/X11/xorg.conf will do the trick
[07:08] <lupine_85> !worksforme
[07:08] <ubotu> Common Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should. Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability.
[07:08] <Music_Shuffle> Because officially, we don't support it.
[07:09] <lupine_85> this is, after all, the "Official Ubuntu Support Channel"... :p
[07:09] <dellthinker> Can anyone tell me why i cant fit a freebsd install on one cdr disc?
[07:09] <Music_Shuffle> Lol
[07:09] <Aggrav8d> how do i list pakages with dpkg?
[07:09] <Music_Shuffle> dellthinker, because its...too big?
[07:09] <carutsu> frogzoo if i type exec somecommand it closes the terminal
[07:09] <carutsu> si it stays
[07:09] <jakub_> dellthinker: you know that there are other channels right?
[07:09] <the_rick> lupine_85: So how do you configure your samba shares?
[07:09] <ThePub> Anyone know how to remove a mime association?
[07:09] <lupine_85> the_rick: I don't
[07:09] <lupine_85> I use ssh
[07:09] <n2diy> dellthinker: , yes, we don't do BSD
[07:09] <dellthinker> Music_Shuffle - well i see that, is there another way to install it with out having to do that and not pay for it?
[07:09] <ThePub> Specifically:  How do you fix Nautilus when its mime association is wrong.
[07:10] <Music_Shuffle> Those installs are designed to fit on one disk, aren't they?
[07:10] <lupine_85> ThePub: nautilus can edit MIME types
[07:10] <Cyber_Linux> lol
[07:10] <lupine_85> in the options somewhere
[07:10] <jakub_> dellthinker: okay, you can do a floppy install, but redirect all non-Ubuntu questions to *bsd channels, NOT HERE
[07:10] <dellthinker> n2diy - who does?
[07:10] <moab_> Anyone here running ubuntu 6.10 on a laptop with suspend functioning properly?
[07:10] <ThePub> lupine_85: mime and application assocation are two different things, if that is what you're getting at.
[07:10] <lupine_85> moab: yes, my acer works fine
[07:10] <Jordan_U> moab_: I am
[07:10] <the_rick> lupine_85: I do too, but my roommates use windows and want a simple way to move their pics to my server
[07:10] <lupine_85> ThePub: ah, OK
[07:10] <Cyber_Linux> dellthinker, /join #freebsd
[07:10] <rapid> !samba
[07:10] <frogzoo> carutsu: just type the command name, no exec
[07:10] <ubotu> samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[07:10] <lupine_85> the_rick: sftp on their computer
[07:11] <lupine_85> or psftp, rather
[07:11] <Aggrav8d> ugh, i think i finally got it.  thank you one and all for putting up with my noobisms.
[07:11] <Cyber_Linux> this is #ubuntu we dont support freebsd :P
[07:11] <moab_> lupine:_thanks
[07:11] <frogzoo> moab_: 100s of people
[07:11] <Flick> Lupine:the only way Automatix can mess up yore system is if u dellete the repositories for Auotomatix to update from and you would have to be some kind of dumb ass to
[07:11] <carutsu> frogzoo: yes but if i, say shedule a shutdown the terminal just freezes
[07:11] <lupine_85> Flick: have you bothered to look at the source for automatix?
[07:11] <Tango_Down> ANyone know how to enable direct rendering, or can point me to the correct man file?
[07:11] <the_rick> lupine_85: I suppose that could work, but they won't like it.  Of course it is my server so they may have to deal.
[07:11] <n2diy> dellthinker: I know a guy that does, but he  doesn't participate much.
[07:11] <lupine_85> Or is that a stupid question?
[07:11] <Music_Shuffle> But officially, we DON'T support it.
[07:11] <lupine_85> the_rick: it's a standalone executable
[07:11] <mneptok> Flick: i would disagree
[07:11] <Music_Shuffle> And this channel is 'official'.
[07:11] <Jordan_U> !fglrx | Tango_Down
[07:11] <ubotu> Tango_Down: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[07:11] <Flick> Lupine: a lil breef y?
[07:12] <Music_Shuffle> the_rick, they want to move the files across?
[07:12] <lupine_85> meh, officially or not... if it worked and was safe, I'd recommend it. But it doesn't, and isn't
[07:12] <Music_Shuffle> On a LAN?
[07:12] <Music_Shuffle> lol
[07:12] <Tango_Down> The R128 drivers are installed according to the Package manager..
[07:12] <the_rick> lupine_85: I know sftp, but they are VERY windows oriented.  Giving them a user and mounting a drive to the right share just worked very well for them
[07:13] <Music_Shuffle> the_rick, just move them from their PC to yours.
[07:13] <moab_> well I must be missing something...i am unable to get it to happenin on this evo n610c...if anyone can point me to a solution i would be very grateful
[07:13] <lupine_85> heh, ok :) linux /can/ do samba, I'm sure
[07:13] <lupine_85> I've just never used it
[07:13] <Music_Shuffle> Samba is just installing the package.
[07:13] <Music_Shuffle> Rebooting.
[07:13] <lupine_85> !samba
[07:13] <ubotu> samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[07:13] <the_rick> Music_Shuffle: Well, I don't want to be their file beeyotch either
[07:13] <Music_Shuffle> And then opening the folder to transfer files.
[07:13] <Flick> Automatix is grate just dont delete the Repositories for it or Automatix will not update when a new 1 comes meeding 90% of all your repositories are out of date
[07:13] <Music_Shuffle> Well, what are you trying to do?
[07:13] <mneptok> Ubuntu most certainly does Samba, and quite well.
[07:13] <lupine_85> ...sigh...
[07:13] <jakub_> Tango_Down: paste the output of dmesg before and after you sudo rmmod r128 (or whatever the driver is exactly) && sudo modprobe r128 (or whatever the driver is exactly), also paste the output of lspci on some sort of pastebin
[07:14] <Music_Shuffle> That was @ the_rick btw.
[07:14] <lupine_85> Automatix is almost as good as a dull fork to the testicular area.
[07:14] <Music_Shuffle> Rofl.
[07:14] <lupine_85> but it's off topic anyway
[07:14] <carutsu> i tried to open a song with amarok, its on a shared folder in a windoes pc, but it just crashes, is it amarok or samba?
[07:14] <the_rick> Music_Shuffle: Just have easy access to files for other people in my apartment (music, pics, etc)
[07:14] <Music_Shuffle> For you to access their files?
[07:14] <Music_Shuffle> Like, with samba, the REALLY easy setup will let you view their shared folders on your machine.
[07:14] <mneptok> carutsu: can you open other files via Samba?
[07:14] <the_rick> Music_Shuffle: No, them to access mine, but read/write
[07:15] <touchme> I'm about 4 hours from having to reformat to Winblows XP... can someone please help me prevent this by telling me how to make Kubuntu recognize my touchscreen monitor? It shows it being plugged into /dev/input/ts0, but the touchscreen part is still inactive. PLEASE help!
[07:15] <Music_Shuffle> So really, you can move stuff to them, and from them, but they're pretty restricted in what they can touch on yours
[07:15] <Flick> Carutsu:its most probly amarok
[07:15] <Music_Shuffle> Unless you go into more depth with the setup.
[07:15] <Jordan_U> How do I update the clamav database?
[07:15] <carutsu> mneptok yes, actually i can copy them or open files, but i can't play from there
[07:15] <mneptok> the_rick: you want Samba, and you want to read up on Unix permissions and smb.conf variables.
[07:15] <Flick> use a better program than amarok
[07:15] <lupine_85> amarok is great :)
[07:15] <lupine_85> it must be samba, as once mounted amarok can't tell the difference
[07:15] <Jordan_U> But nothing else is seriously super :(
[07:16] <the_rick> My real problem is I just want to configure samba with SWAT and not have to constantly edit text files
[07:16] <carutsu> flick: i though so, so i used kafeine instead, same result
[07:16] <n2diy> Anybody have Mondo working with Dapper?
[07:16] <Cyber_Linux> !touchscreen
[07:16] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about touchscreen - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:16] <jakub_> Flick: are you going to substantiate why or are you trying to start a holy war in here?
[07:16] <Flick> Songbird is 100 times better than amarok at playing music and u can allso surf the web in it
[07:16] <Music_Shuffle> Lol.
[07:16] <the_rick> but I can't login to SWAT without a root password
[07:16] <Music_Shuffle> jakub_, I was wondering that. :P
[07:16] <Music_Shuffle> the_rick, so use yours?
[07:16] <lupine_85> funny. I always thought web browsers were for surfing the web
[07:16] <carutsu> i like songbird, but its too slow for me right now
[07:16] <Music_Shuffle> Your login is your root password, unless you changed it.
[07:16] <Music_Shuffle> login pw*
[07:16] <lupine_85> although amarok's auto-load-wikipedia and auto-find-lyrics is very cool
[07:17] <the_rick> Music_Shuffle: I can't configure the shares when I log in with my password
[07:17] <mneptok> the_rick: trust me, you want to learn smb.conf configuration, not SWAT. SWAT requires a web server and more open ports. all you want is SMB. why install more services than you need just to get a GUI?
[07:17] <touchme> bots is empty as far as touchscreens are concerned
[07:17] <hiroki> hello. does anyone can help me with a bash script i'm trying to do?
[07:17] <Cyber_Linux> touchme,
[07:17] <the_rick> Music_Shuffle: When I log in with SWAT, it gives me a page that I can view the open connections but not change anything.
[07:17] <Cyber_Linux> have you checked the forums?
[07:17] <Flick> yeah but Songburd is a music player that has a mozilla web browser built in so if u go to a site that has links to music files like .mp3 then it can play then and they will come up in a nice play list and play strat off the web with in seconds
[07:17] <lupine_85> hiroki: ##bash ? or #bash, I forget
[07:17] <zaatar> Hey, i'm trying to compile some source code and it gives me a compiler error, says C compiler cannot create executables
[07:17] <the_rick> mneptok: You may be right.  I should just do it that way, but I've always just used SWAT in the past.
[07:17] <Cyber_Linux> you know how mny times i have found exactly what i need on the forums
[07:17] <zaatar> but i have gcc installed
[07:17] <lupine_85> zaatar: install build-essential
[07:17] <Music_Shuffle> Eh. Ive never tinkered enough with Samba to do that. I find my simple setup works ok for me.
[07:17] <lupine_85> you need ld, etc as well
[07:18] <hiroki> oh, ok. thanks.
[07:18] <lupine_85> hiroki: far more expertise there than here :)
[07:18] <mneptok> the_rick: smb.conf configuration is pretty easy, really. there are *tons* of samples on the web.
[07:18] <lupine_85> does SWAT bind to localhost ?
[07:18] <touchme> Yup Cyber_Linux, no one knows there either.
[07:18] <the_rick> mneptok: You are right.  Instead of b**chin about how it doesn't work, I should just use samba.conf
[07:19] <Tango_Down> 0000:00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation 440BX/ZX/DX - 82443BX/ZX/DX Host bridge (rev 03)
[07:19] <Tango_Down> 0000:00:01.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 440BX/ZX/DX - 82443BX/ZX/DX AGP bridge (rev 03)
[07:19] <Tango_Down> 0000:00:07.0 ISA bridge: Intel Corporation 82371AB/EB/MB PIIX4 ISA (rev 02)
[07:19] <Tango_Down> 0000:00:07.1 IDE interface: Intel Corporation 82371AB/EB/MB PIIX4 IDE (rev 01)
[07:19] <Tango_Down> 0000:00:07.2 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82371AB/EB/MB PIIX4 USB (rev 01)0000:00:07.3 Bridge: Intel Corporation 82371AB/EB/MB PIIX4 ACPI (rev 02)
[07:19] <n2diy> zaatar, what's that?
[07:19] <the_rick> mneptok: However, in my defense, there should be a way to make SWAT work in Ubuntu
[07:19] <lupine_85> !pastebin
[07:19] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[07:19] <n2diy> I play with Xastir.
[07:19] <zaatar> n2diy, what's what?
[07:19] <Flick> If you like Firefox you will like Songbird its built by some of the guys who work on Firefox
[07:19] <lupine_85> Flick: MPL?
[07:19] <elysium441> I got two sound cards in my pc how can I switch between them? I use Alsa.
[07:19] <carutsu> i love firefox, however im fine with amarok right now
[07:20] <lupine_85> elysium441: one will be card 1/default, the other will be 2
[07:20] <frogzoo> the_rick: why exactly doesn't it work?
[07:20] <n2diy> never mind, it is your name.
[07:20] <Music_Shuffle> elysium441, System -> Prefs -> Sound
[07:20] <lupine_85> ALSA-aware applications let you specify the card you want to use
[07:20] <elysium441> yes
[07:20] <the_rick> frogzoo: So when I go to the login page, you cannot log in as root (no password set) and if I log in as my user, I have no admin access
[07:20] <Flick> lupine: soz half a sleep i will kick my self for asken but what dose MPL stand for?
[07:20] <elysium441> is there any command
[07:20] <lupine_85> Mozilla Public License
[07:20] <the_rick> frogzoo: I can log in as my user, but that only allows me to view current setup, not change anything
[07:21] <zaatar> how do i check what version of gtk i have?
[07:21] <Flick> oh yeah
[07:21] <lupine_85> so why should I use it when a perfectly good GPL alternative is available?
[07:21] <mneptok> the_rick: http://pastebin.ca/285993 <--- there's one of my public read/write share entries from an smb.conf file
[07:22] <frogzoo> the_rick: I suspect you could fix this by creating a 'samba' group & chgrp the requisite files
[07:22] <elysium441> without using alsaconf is there any other way?
[07:22] <elysium441> a command but not alsaconf
[07:22] <lupine_85> elysium441: on a per-application basis?
[07:22] <lupine_85> or system-wide?
[07:22] <the_rick> mneptok: Thanks, I'll give it a go
[07:22] <zaatar> How can i fix this error: checking for GTK... configure: error: GTK+-2.8 is required to compile
[07:23] <mneptok> the_rick: be aware, Samba *strictly* obeys Unix permissions
[07:23] <lupine_85> !info gtk
[07:23] <ubotu> Package gtk does not exist in any distro I know
[07:23] <the_rick> mneptok: So just chmod 777?
[07:23] <the_rick> for ease
[07:23] <Tango_Down> Oops. Sorry about that.
[07:23] <Flick> just take a look at SongBird ment to be the Open source alterative to programs like iTunes song birdworks a lot better than iTunes dose for 1 it has 100% no DRM
[07:23] <frogzoo> the_rick: noes - don't do that
[07:24] <the_rick> Well, maybe no execute
[07:24] <lupine_85> !info ? amarok does iPod interfacing as well
[07:24] <ubotu> Package  does not exist in edgy
[07:24] <lupine_85> it's pretty standard
[07:24] <lupine_85> ooops
[07:24] <zaatar> lupine_85, !info is not found
[07:24] <lupine_85> and it's still an MPL program
[07:24] <lupine_85> zaatar: forgot to delete half an old line :p
[07:24] <zaatar> so just gtk?
[07:25] <mneptok> the_rick: sudo mkdir /home/samba && sudo chmod 755 /home/samba && sudo mkdir /home/samba/public && sudo chmod -R 777 /home/samba/public
[07:25] <lupine_85> zaatar: try installing the libgtk development files
[07:25] <Flick> yeam but in amarok can u got a sit in side the program that has mp3's on it and a play list for them come up and u click and up 2 3seconds later the play
[07:25] <lupine_85> search for them in synaptic or adept
[07:25] <the_rick> mneptok: Yes, that is what I was thinking...
[07:25] <anddreaz> any have blu  distributor-logo.png??
[07:25] <Flick> site*
[07:26] <mneptok> the_rick: then just paste my entry, and replace "samba-public" with just "samba" then restart samba
[07:26] <lupine_85> Flick.... you're completely missing the main thrust of my argument
[07:26] <Flick> lupine what do you meen
[07:26] <lupine_85> although it does have integration with last.fm
[07:26] <lupine_85> MPL != GPL
[07:26] <lupine_85> these things are important
[07:27] <jakub_> lupine_85: and offtopic
[07:27] <lupine_85> jakub_: true :)
[07:27] <touchme> Is there like a channel or number that I can call that I could pay for support on touchscreens? I"m pretty desparate here.
[07:27] <Flick> Lupine: who realy cares as long as its a good program its free and u can get the source for it
[07:27] <lupine_85> ^^
[07:28] <frogzoo> touchme: canonical does commercial support
[07:28] <frogzoo> !canonical | touchme
[07:28] <ubotu> touchme: Canonical Ltd. is committed to the development, distribution and promotion of open source software products, and to providing tools and support to the open source community. It is the driving force behind the Ubuntu, Kubuntu, Xubuntu, and Edubuntu Operating Systems. Canonical's website is at http://www.canonical.com/
[07:28] <anddreaz> sorry
[07:28] <mneptok> frogzoo: we cannot guarantee hardware support, though.
[07:29] <jakub_> touchme: try #hardware
[07:29] <Flick> i like to no that a program is not stoping my freeedom to do what i like
[07:29] <mneptok> frogzoo: if that touchscreen vendor has supplied no basic information to the Linux community a support contract won't magically make that happen, sadly.
[07:29] <mneptok> but yes, we do commercial support.
[07:29] <mneptok> :)
[07:30] <Flick> any body up for a joke its a bit anti windows
[07:30] <mneptok> Flick: i'm sure everyone is in #ubuntu-offtopic ;)
[07:30] <Flick> lol would u like the joke tho
[07:31] <mneptok> i don't like laughing.
[07:31] <mneptok> it's unrefined.
[07:31] <mneptok> ;)
[07:31] <Flick> common im sure u will like this 1
[07:32] <Flick> if any body was in this chat the other day i told it evry body loved it
[07:32] <sw33t> hello
[07:32] <n2diy> Flick, go for it, I havent' been been moderated, yet.
[07:32] <sw33t> is netmap on ubuntu?
[07:32] <Flick> if any 1 is up for a anti windows joke just say joke me
[07:32] <lupine_85> !netmap
[07:32] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about netmap - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:33] <frogzoo> sw33t: apt-cache search netmap
[07:33] <lupine_85> doesn't look like it
[07:33] <sw33t> sry frist time on unutu
[07:33] <sw33t> ubuntu
[07:33] <JediSpam> can i use the 64 bit version for a core 2  duo?
[07:34] <Flick> i got lots of joke i can tell when i find my paper i wrote them on i had evry 1 laffen at them at college
[07:34] <JediSpam> and does anyone have it working
[07:34] <Flick> most are anti mac tho
[07:34] <lupine_85> JediSpam: probably not
[07:34] <lupine_85> depends on whether they're using 64bit cores, I guess
[07:35] <Flick> no 64bit is mostly for AMD processors i think
[07:35] <elysium444> joke me
[07:35] <Flick> ok u asked for the joke u get it
[07:35] <mercykiller> AMD64 != EM64T
[07:35] <Flick> This is Linux land In silent nights you can hear the Windows machines rebooting
[07:35] <leandro-1> why to activate beryl, don see windows border?
[07:35] <lupine_85> mercykiller: they're compatibly
[07:35] <elysium444> :)
[07:35] <lupine_85> compatible*
[07:35] <n2diy> Next
[07:35] <lupine_85> amd64 kernel runs on em64t arch
[07:36] <mercykiller> lupine_85: Didn't know that
[07:36] <mercykiller> heh
[07:36] <Flick> AMD64 works diffrent to EM64T
[07:36] <lupine_85> amd beat intel to the 64-bit desktop, so intel  followed their lead :D
[07:36] <mneptok> rcrook: got one sitting 4 feet away
[07:36] <wero> Hi I'm looking for some support of my sound card someone can help me??
[07:36] <jakub_> wero: what soundcard would that be?
[07:37] <TraceGreen> Hello, does any one know what file "vax-order 68k blit mpx/mux execuable" is? Is it compressed file?
[07:37] <mneptok> leandro-1: you need a new Metacity with Beryl, iirc
[07:37] <frogzoo> !sound | wero
[07:37] <ubotu> wero: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin
[07:37] <rcrook> mneptok: woohoo... I had one but it only had 4 mega of ram so I ghot rid of it
[07:37] <Music_Shuffle> leandro-1, run Emerald.
[07:37] <leandro-1> yep
[07:37] <lupine_85> TraceGreen: it's an executable for a VAX
[07:37] <lupine_85> cor, that's old
[07:37] <wero> ok...
[07:37] <wero> tanks ^^
[07:38] <lupine_85> mneptok: beryl is a metacity replacement
[07:38] <leandro-1> mneptok thanks
[07:38] <sw33t> any here have charter?
[07:38] <leandro-1> music_shuffle thanks
[07:38] <Music_Shuffle> GL.
[07:38] <Flick> AMD64 has some diff Instructions EM64T some of it mite work and some of it will not its not been fully tessted would be nice to get a 64Bit intel and test it my self i only have a AMD64
[07:39] <rcrook> can you get ubuntu for sparc?
[07:40] <sirk234au> does anyone know of any benchmarking tools in ubuntu?
[07:40] <mneptok> rcrook: yes
[07:40] <J-_> anyone get an error with zsnes, that says; Fatal signal: Segmentation Fault (SDL Parachute Deployed)
[07:40] <lupine_85> !contest
[07:40] <ubotu> contest: The linux kernel responsiveness benchmark. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.61-5 (edgy), package size 27 kB, installed size 108 kB
[07:40] <rcrook> cool.:) got a u2 at work that needs it
[07:40] <Flick> to get Ubuntu for sparcs i think you need the Power Pc install
[07:40] <scott__> If I wanted to write and compile a C Program in Ubuntu, what would be the fastest way_
[07:40] <J-_> If so, is there anyway I can fix it?
[07:40] <sirk234au> thanks
[07:40] <lupine_85> scott__: kdevelop is your friend
[07:40] <Music_Shuffle> There's not a SPARC install?
[07:40] <jakub_> scott__: this is heavily biased as you can use any compiler and any editor: vim + gcc.
[07:40] <mneptok> Flick: no. SPARC and PPC are completely different architectures.
[07:41] <Flick> i didnt no that
[07:41] <carutsu> is there an wasy way to work with the n~, and accents on kubuntu?
[07:41] <mneptok> Music_Shuffle: yes, there is a separate SPARC CD
[07:41] <Flick> unless its standat PC hardware i couldnt realy tell you about it
[07:41] <lupine_85> ubuntu only supports 3 archs - i386, amd64, sparc - iirc
[07:41] <Music_Shuffle> Thought so ;D
[07:41] <lupine_85> !architectures
[07:41] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about architectures - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:41] <lupine_85> bah
[07:41] <mneptok> lupine_85: PPC
[07:42] <lupine_85> my ubotu-fu is low today
[07:42] <lupine_85> erm, yeah. ppc :)
[07:42] <Music_Shuffle> lupine_85, so wait...if you run dual, which do you install?
[07:42] <lupine_85> dual...?
[07:42] <Music_Shuffle> Right. Cored. Such as a C2D, x2, Opteron, Xeon, what have you.
[07:42] <lupine_85> if it's CPUs, then all the kernels come with SMP support these days
[07:42] <lupine_85> so it doesn't matter
[07:42] <Flick> if u run intel Dual get the standard i386 install
[07:42] <lupine_85> you run the kernel appropriate to your architecture, regardless of how many cores you have
[07:43] <Music_Shuffle> Oh so you would pick which then? The AMD64 works with not just the AMD chips, correct?
[07:43] <ForgeAus> hmmm I preeefer Konversation over this.... bbbbbbrb...
[07:43] <mneptok> Music_Shuffle: you install whatever architecture it is, and the -generic kernel in Edgy contains all the SMP stuffs.
[07:43] <Music_Shuffle> Or solely the Athlon 64/FX series?
[07:43] <Flick> but it its amd get the 64bit or i386
[07:43] <rcrook> the u2 I have at work has two ultra sparcs
[07:43] <lupine_85> AMD64 works with x86_64 architecture
[07:43] <Music_Shuffle> Right. So if its a C2D chip, which would you--ahh ok.
[07:43] <lupine_85> I have no idea what architecture a core 2 duo chip is, though
[07:43] <harry> ubuntu 6.10!
[07:43] <lupine_85> last intel chip I had was a celeron 433MHz... and I used it for 2 days :p
[07:43] <mneptok> Music_Shuffle: C2D can use i386/i686 or AMD64
[07:44] <lupine_85> everything else has been amd - from K6-2 233MHz. to 2500+ Sempron64
[07:44] <Music_Shuffle> mneptok, is one preferable to the other?
[07:44] <harry> whats the new features of edgy?
[07:44] <Flick> AMD64 hasnot realy been fully tessted on any other 64bit chips than AMD cus of the Instructions sets in processors but could some 1 post to the Ubuntu forums if they get a intell 64 fully working on AMD64 install would be goot to know cus my friend asked me the same thing
[07:45] <PORDO> harry it's just prettier and stuff.
[07:45] <mneptok> AMD64 ain't a great choice for desktop use as there's no Flash, and getting it to work is more hassle that it's worth, IMO. besides, with <4GB RAM the performance gain will be negligible.
[07:45] <carutsu> is there an wasy way to work with the n~, and accents (tildes) on kubuntu?
[07:45] <Music_Shuffle> FF 2.0! :D
[07:45] <Flick> edgy has AiGLX much better than XGL
[07:45] <harry> PORDO: does it still look like the dapper drake desktop?
[07:45] <Music_Shuffle> mneptok, with a budget that allows me to get >4 gigs of RAM, I'll not mind using i686. :P
[07:46] <DebiaKnight> how is ubuntu pronounced anywho?
[07:46] <maitivolksfi> I could really use some help with my WiFi if anyone here can.  I'v spent 2 days going through HOWTOs, forums, and other pages.
[07:46] <Music_Shuffle> Ooh-boon-too?
[07:46] <FiFo> hi all
[07:46] <Flick> Ture AMD64 install is pointless i have a AMD64 processor but still go with the i386 install as its the 1 i find runs best on my processor
[07:46] <lukasz> witam
[07:46] <jakub_> maitivolksfi: what do you need?
[07:46] <mneptok> DebiaKnight: "sek'SAY"
[07:46] <FiFo> how can i install the decoders for ubuntu?
[07:46] <defrysk> bunt as blunt (without the l)
[07:46] <lukasz> who
[07:46] <DebiaKnight> I've been saying  OOh Bun Too
[07:46] <frogzoo> !codecs | FiFo
[07:46] <ubotu> FiFo: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[07:46] <defrysk> ooh bunt oo
[07:47] <Flick> u can use Automatix for install decoders
[07:47] <lukasz> do you speek poland
[07:47] <lukasz>  :)
[07:47] <harry> PORDO: does it still look like the dapper drake desktop?
[07:47] <Music_Shuffle> !automatix
[07:47] <ubotu> automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[07:47] <Music_Shuffle> ;p
[07:47] <maitivolksfi> well, I have a dell latitude d820 with the broadcom 43xx WLAN.  I have the ndiswrapper installed and the correct windows drivers in that.
[07:47] <FiFo> merci
[07:47] <mneptok> Flick: please don't use Automatix for anything. :)
[07:47] <maitivolksfi> it says no problems, hardware present
[07:47] <Music_Shuffle> Lol.
[07:47] <DebiaKnight> ok, time to download ubuntu..
[07:47] <maitivolksfi> I have ndiswrapper insmod'd
[07:47] <defrysk> automatix | Flick
[07:47] <maitivolksfi> still no WiFi.
[07:47] <Flick> drapper and edgy look the same on desktop
[07:47] <DebiaKnight> Debian Version: 4.0
[07:47] <DebiaKnight> 2.6.17-2-sparc64 GNU/Linux
[07:47] <jakub_> maitivolksfi: post lsmod's output to a pastebin of some kind *NOT IN THIS CHANNEL*
[07:47] <Music_Shuffle> mneptok, defrysk , We went through this once already with lupine_85 and him.
[07:47] <maitivolksfi> ok
[07:48] <maitivolksfi> hang on
[07:48] <lupine_85> maitivolksfi: have you blacklisted the bcm43xx kernel module?
[07:48] <maitivolksfi> yes lupine_85
[07:48] <mneptok> maitivolksfi: iirc, the BC43xx stuff doesn;t need ndiwrapper, just the firware cutter and firmware injection.
[07:48] <lupine_85> have you tried using the bcm43xx driver? :p
[07:48] <maitivolksfi> yes lupine_85
[07:48] <maitivolksfi> :p
[07:48] <scott__> Ok, I have a problem - My keyboard is kind of messed up ...When set to American intl keyboard ....My quote keys dont come out right ...they are curiously a different character (looks like it , but really isnt ascii value differs even) ...And also there are dead keys  ....How do I make my keyboard function *completely* normal....can anyone help me out? ???? im getting pretty annoyed
[07:49] <Flick> Defrysk Automatix is grate program helps u in stall the most common and needed stuff for Ubuntu and it will not brake your system as evry 1 says i have not broke a linux distro in the like 2years
[07:49] <Music_Shuffle> !worksforme
[07:49] <ubotu> Common Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should. Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability.
[07:49] <Music_Shuffle> ./Sigh. We JUST went through this!
[07:49] <defrysk> Flick, dont troll please
[07:49] <Music_Shuffle> And I emphasize the 'just'.
[07:50] <lupine_85> Music_Shuffle: is he on about automatix again?
[07:50] <scott__> Can anyone help me out with my keyboard issue
[07:50] <Music_Shuffle> YES. aldsj!
[07:50] <Music_Shuffle> Hahahaha
[07:50] <scott__> instead of arguing about automatix, i swear to god that must get brought up here like 50000 times
[07:50] <lupine_85> !automatix
[07:50] <ubotu> automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[07:50] <scott__> help me with my keyboard problem!!
[07:50] <frogzoo> if people want to use automatix, that's their choice, just be sure to ask for support in #automatix, not back here
[07:50] <lupine_85> 'nuff said
[07:50] <scott__> Shhh!!
[07:50] <mneptok> scott__: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[07:50] <jakub_> scott__: sorry i can't help you out, but if you get it to work, can you please let me know as well?
[07:50] <Flick> lol my friend is righting a piss take of Aoutomatix for windows thet will just give windows user viruses lol
[07:50] <Music_Shuffle> scott__, sorry, if I had any help to offer, I would offer it.
[07:50] <jakub_> !ops
[07:51] <ubotu> Help! Keybuk, mdz, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob, Hobbsee, imbrandon, DBO, LjL, elkbuntu, Mez, tonyyarusso or gnomefreak!
[07:51] <jakub_> can someone please get rid of Flick?
[07:51] <magic_ninja> in the dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg how do you select something (ie the screen resolution) in the command line configuration device
[07:51] <Music_Shuffle> I just realized, I've never met some of those ops. Mm.
[07:51] <frogzoo> jakub_: what's your problem? Flick ok
[07:51] <Madpilot> jakub_, why? Flick, be polite.  :P
[07:52] <jakub_> Music_Shuffle: agreed
[07:53] <Geoffrey2> last time I checked, ignore was still a valid command on most irc programs :)
[07:53] <frogzoo> n2diy: syncing was pretty iffy under dapper, haven't tried since I moved to edgy
[07:53] <lupine_85> Geoffrey2: works fine here, but then of course you can't see the potentially dangerous answers being given out :(
[07:53] <Flick> any body what a WinXP home or pro cd-key
[07:53] <mneptok> Flick: knock it off.
[07:53] <Flick> any body after win xp home or pro cd-key
[07:53] <Music_Shuffle> ./Sigh.
[07:54] <Madpilot> Flick, last warning. Can it.
[07:54] <curs0r> !pastebin
[07:54] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[07:54] <Music_Shuffle> Geoffrey2, see, like lupine_85 said, then you can't protect people FROM that sort of information.
[07:54] <maitivolksfi> initially the network util in the system menu had a wifi thing with the title eth1.  One of the supposed helpful guides I followed had me delete the eth1 line in /etc/iftab because they said on reboot the system will find that hardware and call it wlan0.  Neither of those things appear now...
[07:54] <lupine_85> but seriously, deb repos are orders of magnitude simpler than the windows method of installing things. Why persist with broken attempts to make it even simpler?
[07:54] <Music_Shuffle> Laziness.
[07:54] <Flick> all right then i can give vista beta keys away microsoft sed it can bee used on up to 10 computer but it only works on the beta
[07:55] <Music_Shuffle> ./Sigh.
[07:55] <jakub_> thank you
[07:55] <Music_Shuffle> If anyone has a legit question but is just waiting, and its possibly simple (:P), I can help you! ^_^
[07:55] <lupine_85> apt-get install sigh
[07:55] <Music_Shuffle> I'm quite proud of what little I know. ;P
[07:55] <lupine_85> :)
[07:55] <Music_Shuffle> ^_^
[07:55] <mneptok> ne1 went my CD key fore Ubuntu Profeshionul Servar Edishun?
[07:56] <Geoffrey2> Madpilot, every time I think I've seen the depths of dumb, I find someone worse.... :)
[07:56] <anddreaz> hi guys
[07:56] <crimsun_> mneptok: no but eye will take a broom zoom zoom zoom
[07:56] <Music_Shuffle> Geoffrey2, that's like why you can't ever make stuff foolproof.
[07:56] <Music_Shuffle> Fools are just that ingenious.
[07:56] <anddreaz> any know where can i download start menu icons?
[07:56] <mneptok> crimsun_: lol u aer hackar?!!?
[07:56] <Kcilf> hello
[07:56] <lupine_85> anddreaz: www.gnome-look.org and www.kde-look.org ?
[07:56] <Geoffrey2> Music_Shuffle, no, make something foolproof, and nature develops a better fool
[07:56] <Madpilot> mneptok, crimsun_ #ubuntu-offtopic is thataway... ==>
[07:56] <Music_Shuffle> Haha
[07:57] <Madpilot> But you knew that ;)
[07:57] <Music_Shuffle> Start icons = ?
[07:57] <mneptok> awww ...
[07:57] <mneptok> :P
[07:57] <jakub_> maitivolksfi: if you have the ndiswrapper loaded, then what does iwconfig show you (if you can't find it locate iwconfig)
[07:57] <carutsu> se yya guys
[07:57] <the_rick> mneptok: Thanks, everything looks good on all ends now
[07:58] <Kcilf> any body hacked Mac OS X yet and put gnome on it
[07:58] <the_rick> Should have just looked through the smb.conf file, I think I could have figured it out
[07:58] <the_rick> call me lazy
[07:58] <jakub_> by the way, Kcilf = Flick if it's not painfully obvious enough
[07:58] <maitivolksfi> iwconfig tells me that lo, eth0, and sit0 all have no wireless extensions.
[07:58] <Kcilf> thats the point
[07:58] <lupine_85> maitivolksfi: any useful output in dmesg ?
[07:58] <mneptok> the_rick: splendid. :)
[07:58] <jakub_> maitivolksfi: strange. so dmesg | grep wlan0 ?
[07:58] <lupine_85> and how about ndiswrapper -l ?
[07:59] <crimsun_> Madpilot: probably need +R
[07:59] <jakub[registered> hrm, strange
[07:59] <jakub[registered> sorry about this
[07:59] <maitivolksfi> nothing found
[07:59] <the_rick> mneptok: I'm finally going to become one of those die hard "only edit config files with vi and scripts" guys at this rate
[07:59] <maitivolksfi> oh, wait
[08:00] <the_rick> ;)
[08:00] <jakub_2006> maitivolksfi: then possibly try with grep -i wlan0
[08:00] <mneptok> the_rick: *gasp* then you might become one of those "i don't understand how you can effectively remotely manage services with a GUI" people!
[08:01] <the_rick> lol
[08:01] <maitivolksfi> it says ndiswrapper loaded, driver is not 32bit, bad magic, could not prepare driver bcmwl5, load ndiswrapper failed, check system log
[08:01] <the_rick> baby steps
[08:01] <lupine_85> maitivolksfi: what it says. Use a 32-bit driver.
[08:02] <maitivolksfi> hmm, i thought this was, it came from the downloads of dell.com acording to my service tag
[08:02] <jakub_2006> maitivolksfi: try /var/log/messages as well
[08:04] <sw33t> wow my internet is so GAY today
[08:04] <sw33t> internet explore dont work but mirc msn aim and stuff.
[08:05] <lupine_85> ...
[08:05] <Ralith> hey
[08:05] <jfrench> Maybe dont use IE
[08:05] <maitivolksfi> I grepped ndiswrapper, but didn't get anything. I'll try to grab one off the ndiswarpper list drivers and give it another go. Still not sure why it disagreed w/ the drivers from the dell site.
[08:05] <Ralith> I've installed flashplugin-nonfree, but there's no matching .so in /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins
[08:05] <sw33t> i used mozilla and all my other pcs
[08:05] <lupine_85> Ralith: dpkg
[08:05] <Music_Shuffle> !language btw.
[08:05] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about language btw. - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:05] <lupine_85> erm, dpkg -L flashplugin-nonfree
[08:07] <crimsun_> Ralith: 7 or 9?
[08:07] <jakub_2006> maitivolksfi: i meant tail -n 100 /var/log/messages , sorry
[08:08] <Seamus7> Hi... anyone know how to enable wifi while Ubuntu boots up?
[08:08] <Gunny> Has anyone seen this?
[08:08] <Gunny> FATAL: Could not load /lib/modules/2.6.17-10-server/modules.dep
[08:08] <maitivolksfi> ok, theres lots of stuff, what am I looking for in it?
[08:08] <Gunny> I get this sometimes on boot, then my server reboots
[08:08] <Gunny> Then randomly I don't see it, and I'm in the OS fine
[08:09] <murali> hi all
[08:09] <fnf> Is there a way to make moving between workspaces 'wrap-around' in GNOME/metacity ? Currently I cannot switch from 1-> with the Ctrl-Alt-(Arrow) key, it becomes pretty annoying.
[08:09] <jakub_2006> murali: you aren't running IRC as root are you?
[08:09] <fnf> !Hi | murali
[08:09] <ubotu> murali: Hi!  Will tell you what files are installed by the package
[08:10] <crimsun_> Ralith: dpkg -l flashplugin-nonfree |grep ^ii
[08:11] <Madpilot> murali, because you came in here as<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[08:11] <Seamus7> Hi... how can I disable my wireless card during boot up?
[08:11] <lupine_85> of course, I've just remembered that the package doesn't actually install the .so - just downloads and runs the installer
[08:11] <maitivolksfi> use my comoputer
[08:11] <maitivolksfi> that will make your wireless not work
[08:11] <Ralith> crimsun_, you sure it's ^ii? Nothing returned
[08:11] <murali> madpilot:oh ok..
[08:11] <crimsun_> Ralith: then you don't have flashplugin-nonfree installed
[08:12] <crimsun_> Ralith: apt-cache policy flashplugin-nonfree
[08:12] <jakub_2006> maitivolksfi: i totally understand your frustration man. sorry for not being of much help, and though people here may advise against me saying this: try somewhere like ##linux (where honestly you'll meet much less n00bs)
[08:12] <maitivolksfi> jakub_2006, I figured out what I was looking at.  There is no mention of any networking devices that I can tell other than the 10/100/1000 ethernet card.
[08:12] <murali> can somone plz tell where can i find actual code ,atleast snippets of them,the way they are implemented in networking.. i'm tired of jus reading. i want to see actually how they work..
[08:12] <Music_Shuffle> The trick is to have a problem lots of others have.
[08:13] <maitivolksfi> Thats one thing I have noticed in the small amount of time I have spent here.  Its the default irc channel for Ubuntu so lots of traffic and lots of people who don't really want/need to be here/know where here is.
[08:13] <jakub_2006> murali: what language? C? then go to ##c, C++? then go to ##c++, Java, Perl, PHP, et al? go to their respective channels
[08:13] <un_operateur> . o 0 ( I think he wants ubuntu++ )
[08:14] <lupine_85> a lack of source-code in an open-source os? not likely!
[08:14] <jakub_2006> maitivolksfi: totally agree and it causes a great deal of frustration. at least the ops here are responsive though.
[08:14] <murali> and i was jus curious.. where can i see the header information of the packets tht leave my computer or come into it... is there a way tht i can know tht..??
[08:14] <lupine_85> just apt-get source $some_package and see how $some_package does what it does
[08:14] <jakub_2006> murali: check out wireshark or tcpdump
[08:14] <lupine_85> murali: ethereal/wireshark
[08:14] <jakub_2006> lupine_85: it's officially wireshark now though.. but sure ethereal
[08:14] <murali> jakub_2006:are those commands or  tools??
[08:14] <un_operateur> lupine_85, some non-free and commercial packages dont have source counterparts eh
[08:15] <lupine_85> "some"
[08:15] <lupine_85> most packages will have the source, though :)
[08:15] <lupine_85> and it's certainly educational, looking through
[08:15] <Seamus7> Hi... I need to install a patch in order to fix a bug that is preventing my system from booting even in recovery mode ... I've read that either turning on wireless while Ubuntu boots or disabling the wireless device will allow me to fully boot up so that I can apply the patch... any idea how i can do either 1) enable wifi while booting or 2) disabling the wireless device???
[08:15] <jakub_2006> murali: is there a difference? for your purposes, it doesn't matter. just sudo apt-get install ngrep tcpdump wireshark
[08:15] <un_operateur> lupine_85, aye, but you said --  a lack of source-code in an open-source os? not likely!
[08:16] <murali> jakub_2006:thanks so much
[08:16] <lupine_85> I could calculate a p-value from the ratio of open to closed-source programs in the repos, but I'd be taking you a bit too literally then :p
[08:16] <jakub_2006> murali: no problem, good day
[08:16] <lupine_85> but if you want to learn basic TCP/IP programming skills, where better to start than apt-get source netcat ?
[08:16] <corey> quit
[08:17] <velvetgreen> hello - is this the ubuntu crowd?
[08:17] <lupine_85> velvetgreen: yep :)
[08:17] <un_operateur> libpcap is another good one
[08:17] <nothlit> !hi | velvetgreen
[08:17] <ubotu> velvetgreen: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[08:17] <frogzoo> velvetgreen: the same
[08:17] <velvetgreen> hi lupine!  i am logging in via windows but have ubuntu running on my other machine!
[08:17] <jakub_2006> lupine_85: i would actually try to understand the basics of programming as everything else related to it is irrelevant (it just comes naturally after that). looking through well developed, but massive applications, is probably not the best place to start. but again, this is *offtopic*
[08:18] <lupine_85> mm, netcat is massive, I agree... :p
[08:18] <velvetgreen> i need to add the chatzilla to my ubuntu firefox
[08:18] <swami> hi all
[08:18] <frogzoo> velvetgreen: it's under extensions
[08:18] <lupine_85> I'd say that how to get source-code in a ubuntu distro using ubuntu features is on-topic for a ubuntu chan though
[08:18] <velvetgreen> so - is everyone on edgy yet?
[08:18] <swami> anyone works with mono around here?
[08:18] <jakub_2006> lupine_85: agreed
[08:18] <velvetgreen> thanks frog
[08:18] <nothlit> !source
[08:18] <ubotu> You can easily fetch a package's source with apt-get. See: http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/apt-howto/ch-sourcehandling.en.html
[08:18] <frogzoo> velvetgreen: well the LTS server edition is 6.06, so I'd guess not
[08:19] <swami> any one using monodevelop around here?
[08:19] <lupine_85> velvetgreen: not everyone
[08:19] <frogzoo> !anyone | swami
[08:19] <ubotu> swami: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[08:19] <velvetgreen> i felt brave going to edgy from dapper all by myself - but it worked
[08:19] <velvetgreen> EVENTUALLY
[08:19] <lupine_85> probably a good proportion though
[08:20] <coopster> velvetgreen: from edgy to dapper?  backwards?
[08:20] <maitivolksfi> ohhhh, jakub_2006, I know why it said they were not 32 bit drivers.  The download page lists that file as the firght drivers for win 98, 2k, xp and x64...
[08:20] <magic_ninja> mabye i'm changing permissions on a symlink >,>
[08:20] <Seamus7> Here's a tricky question: How can I get into my file system when I'm experiencing a bug that is preventing boot up even in recovery mode? I need to apply a patch from launchpad.
[08:20] <lupine_85> magic_ninja: should work regardless
[08:20] <maitivolksfi> I'm definetly going for the one from the ndiswrapper page now,
[08:20] <lupine_85> Seamus7: use the live CD?
[08:20] <swami> does anyoane have mono installed?
[08:20] <jakub_2006> maitivolksfi: ah. good to hear :)
[08:21] <velvetgreen> coopster - i went FROM dapper to EDGY
[08:21] <Seamus7> lupine_85: do I need to mount / or will it be done for me?
[08:21] <Geoffrey2> right now I'm just trying to figure out why Flash 9 keeps causing Firefox to hang.........
[08:21] <lupine_85> you'll need to mount / somewhere other than / , then chroot into ut
[08:21] <lupine_85> it*
[08:21] <coopster> velvetgreen: heh, durrr, reading helps.  oops.
[08:21] <velvetgreen> i had to rebuild the kernel tomake VMWARE run - but the rest was fine
[08:21] <jakub_2006> Geoffrey2: it's a bug in the nonfree Flash 9 by Adobe. they say they are trying to fix it though...
[08:21] <Ralith> crimsun_, thanks, works now
[08:21] <velvetgreen> that is ok Coops!
[08:21] <Seamus7> lupine_85 what's ut?
[08:22] <velvetgreen> speaking of Coopers - i need to fire up the grill and cook dinner in a moment
[08:22] <jakub_2006> Geoffrey2: you get the same experience on opera or any other browser that uses flash 9 on *bsd/linux
[08:22] <lupine_85> [07:21]  <lupine_85> it*
[08:22] <lupine_85> jakub_2006: it "just works" in konqueror and firefox
[08:22] <Seamus7> lupine_85: oh ok th
[08:22] <lupine_85> !chroot
[08:22] <ubotu> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebootstrapChroot use this to build 32 bit environments on a 64 bit box
[08:22] <Seamus7> lupine_85:thx
[08:22] <Geoffrey2> jakub_2006, I know, I already tried it on Opera, same problem.... :)
[08:22] <lupine_85> urgh, that's a useless link
[08:23] <lupine_85> Seamus7: once it's mounted somewhere (say /mnt), just sudo chroot /mnt
[08:23] <nothlit> !linux32
[08:23] <ubotu> linux32: Wrapper to set the execution domain. In component main, is extra. Version 1-3 (edgy), package size 5 kB, installed size 56 kB
[08:23] <lupine_85> you'll end up inside your edgy partition as the root user
[08:23] <coopster> !64bit
[08:23] <ubotu> AMD64 and EMT64 are fully supported architectures on Ubuntu. See http://tinyurl.com/jv6tc for more information.
[08:24] <Geoffrey2> jakub_2006, at least now I know it's not just a problem on my computer.....
[08:24] <Seamus7> lupine_85: that's exactly the info I needed. Thanks a bunch!
[08:24] <aztracker1> jakub_2006, is flash9 linux out?
[08:24] <jakub_2006> Geoffrey2: if you really want a better browsing experience, not just for ubuntu, but for all linux/*bsd systems running flash 9 by adobe, check this out: http://www.adobe.com/support/feature.html
[08:24] <jakub_2006> aztracker1: been out for a while now my friend
[08:24] <coopster> !biarch
[08:24] <ubotu> A BiArch 64-bit system is one that comes with a complete 32-bit package system, as well. This means that you can run 32bit packages as well on your 64-bit install
[08:24] <frogzoo> aztracker1: yep
[08:24] <rcrook> !sparc
[08:24] <ubotu> Have a look here for Docs http://doc.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/install/sparc/ KnownIssues and TODO are on the wiki.
[08:25] <frogzoo> !flash | aztracker1 you'll find it under restricted:
[08:25] <ubotu> aztracker1 you'll find it under restricted:: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[08:25] <aztracker1> jakub_2006, download center on adobe only shows v7
[08:26] <lupine_85> it's a beta release
[08:26] <Geoffrey2> jakub_2006, it's a product feature request form.....
[08:26] <nothlit> its Flash Update 9 Beta 2
[08:26] <nothlit> !flash9
[08:26] <ubotu> flash9 is available from dapper-backports and edgy-backports now, see !backports
[08:26] <aztracker1> lupine_85, gotcha...
[08:26] <nothlit> !flash9 | aztracker1
[08:26] <ubotu> aztracker1: flash9 is available from dapper-backports and edgy-backports now, see !backports
[08:26] <coopster> hrmm, i'm trying to use the Edgy livecd, and X will not load correctly.  the ubuntu splash keeps coming up distorted, then the computer hangs.  i'm using a nvidia card, but booting into safe graphics does the same thing.  any thoughts?
[08:27] <frogzoo> !fixres | coopster you'll need to alter xorg.conf & restart the gdm
[08:27] <ubotu> coopster you'll need to alter xorg.conf & restart the gdm: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type "sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart" in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[08:28] <aztracker1> !backports
[08:28] <ubotu> If new updated Ubuntu packages are built for an application, then they go into Ubuntu Backports. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBackports
[08:28] <Geoffrey2> I'm assuming the flash9 in Edgy backports is the same thing you can download from Adobe?
[08:28] <aztracker1> U have backports checked in synaptic, but not finding it.
[08:28] <jakub_2006> Geoffrey2: i believe so
[08:29] <aztracker1> err I have...
[08:29] <nothlit> !alternate | coopster if that doesn't work or you don't want to do that
[08:29] <ubotu> coopster if that doesn't work or you don't want to do that: The Alternate CD (available as of Dapper) is the classical text-mode installation CD. Use it if you wish to upgrade via CD, or for an "expert" mode install. For normal installs, use the Desktop CD, which is also a "Live" CD.
[08:29] <CaptainDoom> anybody with a laptop using twinview for a second screen successfully?
[08:29] <aztracker1> hmm.. okay, looks like it's already 9... not sure, haven't tried any flash 8-9 sites lately..
[08:30] <coopster> nothlit: if i can fix the resolution, that's fine by me, but do you have a clue how i'd get there before X loads automatically?\
[08:30] <maitivolksfi> CaptainDoom, I'v heard of it happening.  I haven't tried myself but no problems with the graphics drivers so I don't know why it wouldn't work
[08:30] <nothlit> coopster, ctrl + alt + f1 sudo /etc/init,d/gdm stop
[08:31] <CaptainDoom> ive kind of gotten it working by accident but i really can't figure out what i'm doing
[08:32] <aztracker1> cool, must not have noticed the update whenever it happened...
[08:32] <CaptainDoom> at first i had the system detecting both monitors, but now that i've read the documentation i can't remember how i did it
[08:32] <aztracker1> was on 7 for a long time..
[08:32] <maitivolksfi> ati or nvidia?
[08:32] <coopster> nothlit: ty
[08:32] <aztracker1> now if MS will release WPF/E
[08:32] <CaptainDoom> kinda hoping somebody with working twinview could post their xorg.conf
[08:32] <CaptainDoom> nvidia
[08:34] <moab_> anyone here running on a Evo n610c laptop
[08:34] <CaptainDoom> no success stories i guess?
[08:34] <un_operateur> !anyone
[08:34] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[08:34] <maitivolksfi> just looking at it, I'd guess you need a monitor section for each different kind you have
[08:34] <moab_> the real question is that suspend aint happenin
[08:34] <maitivolksfi> also 2 screen sections
[08:35] <moab_> i was wondering if i could find some newer info that "it will be addressed in the next kernel"
[08:35] <coopster> is there a good howto on how to run 64-bit edgy with a chroot/linux32 support?  and/or does anyone who uses it feel that it's ready?
[08:35] <moab_> from a message i saw from april of this year
[08:36] <un_operateur> moab_, I take it you've upgraded the kernel since?
[08:36] <maitivolksfi> yeah, actually now that I look at it closer I have no idea how I would do that manually. CaptainDoom.
[08:36] <moab_> i am running 6.10
[08:36] <maitivolksfi> I did it under slack with the proporietary nvidia driver b/c it comes with the gui config tool
[08:37] <maitivolksfi> I don't think ubuntu has the same one.
[08:37] <CaptainDoom> i have had it half-ass working with only one section of each. i get the 2 monitor sections now, but which screen section would get the twinview options?
[08:37] <moab_> from the cd
[08:37] <un_operateur> what happens when you try and suspend?
[08:37] <moab_> i believe i did all of the updates provided
[08:38] <J-_> Is there anyway that I can give permissions to something which'll let my controller work in zsnes as user?
[08:38] <moab_> got the W200 running thanks to some nice instructions i found but i am stumped on suspend....
[08:38] <CaptainDoom> oops those options go in device anyway... maybe i just need sleep. thanks for your patience
[08:38] <maitivolksfi> My guess (could be completely wrong) would be that you have to do something in addition to the xorg.conf file.  maybe somehting with the 'nvidia' driver itself, some kind of flag or something
[08:38] <moab_> it freezes and requires a hard reboot
[08:38] <un_operateur> moab_, some packages are held back from updating -- especially the linux kernel -- you can check if there are any -- sudo aptitude update; sudo aptitude upgrade
[08:39] <lupine_85> apt-get dist-upgrade is your friend
[08:39] <moab_> i found a message and that a bug report had been submitted ling before 6.10 even came out so i figured i was good to go
[08:39] <un_operateur> lupine_85, he's already on edgy as far as i can see
[08:39] <moab_> am wrong to make that assumption?
[08:39] <CaptainDoom> i'll take another shot at it once i've had some rest. if i can get it working simply i'll post my results on forum
[08:39] <lupine_85> un_operateur: dist-upgrade  doesn't care
[08:40] <maitivolksfi> good luck
[08:40] <J-_> Is there anyway that I can give permissions to something which'll let my controller work in zsnes as user rather tahn root?
[08:40] <moab_> un_operator_:thanks i will look at that
[08:40] <lupine_85> it upgrades all available packages, in most cases - like ones skipped by upgrade
[08:40] <un_operateur> moab_, well, what you can do is see if there has been any progress in regards to the bug report filed out
[08:41] <coopster> J-_:  check the permissions on your controller device (/dev/joystick maybe?) and make sure that all users can access it, that may be the problem
[08:41] <moab_> yeah i tried that and the message bounced back saying i wasnt allowed to post....i guess i will have to find a faq for the mailing list
[08:42] <un_operateur> moab_, the issue probably goes beyond just ubuntu -- since it's probably an ACPI issue, you might like to check out the various other mailing lists too
[08:42] <fek> moin
[08:42] <barata> G.OO.D N.EW.S: Picasa really suckSSSSSSSSSSSS
[08:42] <J-_> k cool i'll check it out
[08:42] <barata> NEVER install that Windoz hybrid in Linux
[08:43] <barata> it's just a matter of fact for now that Linux has no good pics browser like ACDSee in Windoz
[08:43] <maitivolksfi> hopefully someone knows what the arp (number) flag in /etc/iftab means and will tell me...
[08:43] <barata> gthumb should be the best we can get by with for now
[08:43] <un_operateur> barata, it depends on how you define good -- good as in functional and practical or good as in pretty and beautified
[08:44] <kgs> Hello.
[08:44] <CaptainDoom> if there were two screen and 2 monitor sections, how do you identify which correlate? is there a way to assign one of each to DFP and one of each to CRT?
[08:44] <jakub_2006> maitivolksfi: two line flood follows (if you man 5 iftab, you would see the same, but i don't know what your man page installation status is..)
[08:44] <coopster> !hi | kgs
[08:44] <ubotu> kgs: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[08:44] <jakub_2006>        arp arp-type
[08:44] <jakub_2006>               Matches the ARP type (also known as the Link type) of the interface, which can be obtained by using ifconfig(8) or ip(8).
[08:44] <jakub_2006> hmm, three line, that's still fine.
[08:44] <J-_> coopster: yeah there's no /dev/joystick
[08:45] <barata> good as it can nice itself ... I highlight like 100 pics to open with Picasa .. then my system was busy for 30' and I just cannot do anything
[08:45] <moab_> un_operator_:yes that IS the case from what i have read...also I have not been able to find any info more current than this link provides   https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/laptop-testing-team/2006-April/000642.html
[08:45] <barata> killing each of them is like a gonorhea in the ass
[08:45] <maitivolksfi> ok, thats what I see.  I tried man /etc/iftab
[08:45] <maitivolksfi> I'll figure all this out one of these days
[08:45] <un_operateur> !language | barata
[08:45] <ubotu> barata: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[08:46] <barata> ca va operateur ... ca marche pas si on parle le francais ... n'est-ce pas con?
[08:46] <J-_> Is there anyway that I can give permissions to something which'll let my controller work in zsnes as user?
[08:46] <jakub_2006> maitivolksfi: usually, a configuration file will have a man page with the syntax man <configuration file> and not man absolute-path/<configuration path>
[08:46] <pitillo> hi good morning. Im trying to dont load some modules at ubuntus startup. I added them to /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist in this way "blacklist module" but seems that they load. Anyone know what am I missing?
[08:46] <coopster> J-_: well, the file will be different depending on your controller, but it should be recorded in the zsnes settings
[08:46] <kgs> I have been searching the Ubuntu website, but have been unable to find any information on the minimum system requirements. Does anyone have any idea what they may be? I am planning on installing it on a virtual machine (with VMware).
[08:46] <maitivolksfi> noted, thanks
[08:46] <J-_> coopster: k i'll try and find it
[08:47] <CaptainDoom> ohh then identifier name... that's it i'm too tired to make sense. thanks
[08:47] <barata> kgs: just download the dvd, burn it, put it on your cd tray and run it
[08:47] <barata> its not gonna install anything
[08:47] <barata> you dont even need an VM
[08:47] <barata> it's called 'livecd'
[08:48] <barata> just make sure you can boot from cd ... that's it
[08:49] <kgs> Okay.
[08:49] <wasabi__> what's a good alternative linux usenet program that rivals newsleecher?
[08:50] <barata> most probably (depending on your chipsets & system of course) you can also go online kgs
[08:50] <mneptok> wasabi__: try Pan
[08:50] <coopster> wasabi_: klibido works pretty well
[08:51] <pitillo> !blacklist
[08:51] <ubotu> To blacklist a module, edit /etc/modprobe.d/my_blacklist and add "blacklist modulename" to the end of that list