[10:52] <Renderbox> So should I try it anyway, or stick with the current driver?
[10:52] <ikonia> Renderbox does your current driver work (which one are you using ?)
[10:53] <Renderbox> Well yeah it works.. I couldn't get into the LiveCD normally.. I had to reconfigure xserver-xorg, and choose VESA and all default options.. Thats what I have now
[10:53] <ikonia> Renderbox ahhh vesa is weak, I suggest trying the nvidia-glx package
[10:53] <ikonia> Renderbox you'll find the nvidia drivers make a big difference to your laptops performance graphically
[10:54] <Renderbox> ikonia: sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx ?
[10:54] <Jordan_U> Renderbox, Try System -> Administration -> Restricted Driver Manager
[10:54] <Renderbox> okay
[10:54] <ikonia> Renderbox exactly, then a reconfigure to use the nvidia (not nv) driver
[10:54] <^LadyVaMpIrKa^> omega.bg
[10:54] <Renderbox> Jordan_U: It says my hardware does not require any restricted drivers.
[10:54] <The_bob> or use envy
[10:55] <ikonia> The_bob don't recommend envy -
[10:55] <Jordan_U> Renderbox, I think that means that the nvidia-glx package won't work with your card
[10:55] <amadeux> What's with all the updates today???
[10:55] <The_bob> weel, i had no problems with envy
[10:55] <Jordan_U> Renderbox, You can get the newest driver manually, but you will have to re-install it on kernel upgrades
[10:55] <ikonia> !worksforme >the_bob
[10:55] <ikonia> amadeux packages are being updated, nothing more
[10:56] <amadeux> ok. just a lot on one go
[10:56] <amadeux> no special occasion?
[10:56] <Renderbox> Jordan_U: how do i do that.. re-install it on kernel
[10:56] <amadeux> When will gutsy be released?
[10:56] <Jordan_U> Renderbox, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NvidiaManual
[10:56] <ikonia> amadeux 18/10/07 currntly
[10:56] <amadeux> cool
[10:56] <Jordan_U> !gutsy | amadeux
[10:56] <ubotu> amadeux: Gutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10) | (due October 2007) | It is development software, and as such unstable, support _only_ in #ubuntu+1 | See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GutsyGibbon for more information
[10:57] <Renderbox> Jordan_U: It says its advised that xorg works with nv drivers... It didnt work with nv for me
[10:57] <ikonia> Renderbox nv is open source nvidia - not as strong as the nvidia driver
[10:57] <peacepipejv> should I get rid of automatix b4 upgrading to edgy
[10:58] <ikonia> peacepipejv you should not be using automatix at all. IT makes your system unsupportable for the community
[10:58] <ikonia> !automatix >peacepipejv
[10:58] <Renderbox> ikonia: I don't know what to do at this point. Jordan_U says the nVidia driver won't work on my card..
[10:58] <jussi01> !automatix | peacepipejv
[10:58] <ubotu> peacepipejv: Automatix2 is a block of code which attempts to install some software.  When it fails and breaks systems, we don't provide support for it.  A creditable analysis from a debian/ubuntu developer is here - http://mjg59.livejournal.com/77440.html (Additional information: /msg ubotu worksforme)
[10:58] <ikonia> Renderbox that is possible, let me check what cards are support
[10:58] <ikonia> !nvidia >ikonia
[10:58] <amadeux> When is Ubuntu Horny Horse released?
[10:58] <Renderbox> !nvidia > Renderbox
[10:58] <Jordan_U> Renderbox, ikonia I said that the nvidia-glx package would not work with your card
[10:58] <ikonia>  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[10:59] <ikonia> oops
[10:59] <ikonia> sorry
[10:59] <ikonia> !offtopic >amadeux
[10:59] <peacepipejv> what about any packages installed through automatix, should I get rid of them?
[10:59] <ikonia> Jordan_U its an 8600 mobile, just checking if thats supported
[10:59] <Jordan_U> amadeux, Hardy Heron will come 6 months after Gutsy.
[10:59] <radarredex> hi
[10:59] <mega> alvia
[10:59] <ikonia> peacepipejv using automatix - if you want support you should do a clean install
[10:59] <peacepipejv> i dont want to be unspported
[11:00] <peacepipejv> damn,
[11:00] <peacepipejv> cant I just get rid of it?
[11:00] <Jordan_U> peacepipejv, Most people won't refuse to support you, but you may get some problems caused by Automatix that we might not be able to fix
[11:00] <ikonia> peacepipejv no
[11:00] <ikonia> peacepipejv automatix is not supported in this channel
[11:01] <ikonia> peacepipejv: nor is is supported on the ubuntu forums. Automatix does have its own support community which may be happy to help/suport you
[11:01] <Jordan_U> peacepipejv, Honestly, as bad as Automatix is ( and it is bad ) I don't think it warrents a re-install unless ( or until ) you are having problems
[11:01] <ikonia> oopsJordan_U it does if he wants support
[11:01] <Chewi_ffm> hi, does anybody know, how gusty (with compiz fusion) handle ati ? does it start a xgl-server right away ? or how does it behave ?
[11:01] <ikonia> Renderbox Jordan_U appears correct, the 8600 is not support in ubuntu 7.04 - but should be in 7.10
[11:02] <Renderbox> When is 7.10 expected to be released?
[11:02] <overclucker> too soon
[11:02] <Jordan_U> Chewi_ffm, Does not enable Compiz for fglrx users
[11:02] <overclucker> not soon enough
[11:02] <ikonia> Chewi_ffm gusty support is in #ubuntu+1
[11:02] <kst> how big is an average ubuntu install that can do the normal desktop user stuff like burning CDs, office, audio players, video players etc.? mine's like 4.3gig already so I'm thinking of doing a format for gutsy... only got 700mb free disk space on that partition anyway.. or will it work?
[11:02] <Renderbox> bah I regret buying this laptop now
[11:02] <ikonia> kst between 800 meg and 1.2 gig
[11:03] <ikonia> Renderbox hang on until 18th october and you should be fine
[11:03] <Jordan_U> Renderbox, Again, you can get it to work by installing the nvidia.com drivers
[11:03] <kst> ikonia uhm ok, but why's mine so big then?
[11:03] <lunz> i am back...
[11:03] <ikonia> Renderbox and jordan is correct, the nvidia.com drivers should work
[11:03] <ikonia> kst you've installed more stuff ?
[11:03] <kst> i tried to put everything in /home when possible which is on a differentpartition
[11:03] <overclucker> kst: that is when you're running it
[11:03] <Jordan_U> Renderbox, It's just that you may have a little work to do when you have a kernel update
[11:03] <kst> overclucker ?
[11:03] <Jordan_U> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NvidiaManual
[11:03] <ikonia> kst you can't put the ubuntu install in /home
[11:04] <overclucker> kst: try looking at it from a live cd
[11:04] <kst> no ikonia but stuff that i install afterwards :)
[11:04] <uahuha> how can i know the touchpad hardware model?
[11:04] <lunz> ikonia,thanks for the sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[11:04] <ikonia> kst so how is that anythign to do with ubuntu
[11:04] <kst> will do overclucker, thx
[11:04] <ikonia> lunz welcome
[11:04] <kst> ikonia well because i didnt install that much stuff, but still my install got 4.3gig in size..?
[11:04] <ikonia> kst out of the box install was 4.3 gig ?
[11:04] <kst> no
[11:05] <Jordan_U> kst, Try clearing out your package cache
[11:05] <kst> but somehow it managed to become 4.3gig :) although i dont think i installed that much stuff, especially not in the / but only in /home
[11:05] <ikonia> kst right, so as I said, out of the box is 800 - 1.3 gig in size, what you add after that is up to you
[11:05] <FliptBit> where else can you change power management in ubuntu?  my screen still goes black after about 5 to 10 min ???
[11:05] <ikonia> kst ubuntu doesn't install stuff in /home
[11:05] <Jordan_U> kst, sudo apt-get clean
[11:05] <cafuego> FliptBit: disable the screensaver
[11:05] <iapitus> huh .. that was simple enough -- anyone in here think of a reason to use "ip route list" over "netstat -arn"?
[11:05] <kst> ikonia one more time: when i manually added stuff i needed, i tried to put it into the /home path which is on a different partition...............
[11:06] <ikonia> Jordan_U thatss handy flag to know
[11:06] <magnetron> FliptBit: check the screensaver settings
[11:06] <Renderbox> Jordan_U: Okay, I've bookmarked that link and will try it today. I need to install my WiFi card too, but the instructions given on the forum requires you to download a different kernel. Any other way I could do it?
[11:06] <kst> that doesnt apply for packets from apt-get obviously, but other programs from 3rd party sources
[11:06] <Jordan_U> Renderbox, What wifi card?
[11:06] <ikonia> kst yes, so everything else you installed through ubuntu or using temport file systems will go into /
[11:06] <FliptBit>  -- yeah I checked that --- and still goes dark.  very frustrating when watching a movie
[11:06] <overclucker> kst: df -h from console
[11:07] <kst> overclucker and then? that doesnt tell me anything new, sys monitor says the same already :)
[11:07] <Renderbox> Jordan_U: Intel Pro 6950 I think.. I forgot the model #, I have to boot into Windows to check
[11:07] <Jordan_U> Renderbox, Are you on Ubuntu on that box now?
[11:07] <Renderbox> Jordan_U: Yes
[11:07] <Jordan_U> Renderbox, System -> Preferences -> Hardware Information
[11:07] <overclucker> kst: things like /proc/kcore get added to the size
[11:08] <hongtzai> while I'm using Deluge to download 1 of 2 torrents is stable, the other one's peers usually back to zero. How can I to solve this problem?
[11:08] <overclucker> kst: du -h /proc/kcore
[11:08] <ikonia> overclucker why would he do that ?
[11:09] <Pie-rate> is there any easy way to add some kind of button in nautilus that will run gnome-terminal with --working-directory set for whatever dir nautilus is in?
[11:09] <overclucker> oh, w8 wrong one, lol
[11:10] <radarredex> hi all
[11:10] <hongtzai> Hello everyone.While I'm using Deluge to download some files. 1 of 2 torrents is stable, the other's peers usually back to zero. How can I to solve this problem?
[11:10] <Renderbox> Jordan_U: I don't see a wireless device listed there
[11:10] <ikonia> hongtzai contact the peers ?
[11:10] <overclucker> kst: don't listen to me anymore, lol
[11:11] <hongtzai> yes
[11:11] <hongtzai> like this 15(15) -> 0(0)
[11:11] <kRush> playing audio ogg/mp3/file/stream I get ~2% CPU usage on vlc (oss/alsa), mplayer (oss) - but ~15-20%CPU on rhythmbox, mplayer (alsa), totem ... card is an audigy2zs and I'm out of ideas, anyone helping me figuring this one out would be highly appreciated
[11:11] <peacepipejv> best image burner from experience to burn Feisty? Anyone? Using dapper
[11:11] <peacepipejv> gonna do a fresh install
[11:11] <ikonia> peacepipejv just right click on the image and select burn
[11:12] <iapitus> peacepipejv, man - nautilus-burner is cool and all - but i don't think k3b can be beaten for FOSS cd burning
[11:12] <xy77> I'm looking for a tool that allows me to add lyrics to mp3s and ogg files. I found only windows or mac software on the web. Does anyone know of a linux software for this task?
[11:13] <ikonia> xy77 not aware of anything
[11:13] <peacepipejv> darn, just remembered, gotta take tower apart an reconnect burner, gonna be a long night.
[11:13] <Jordan_U> Renderbox, Strange, I've got to leave, If you can wait 13 days it will probably work with Gutsy :)
[11:14] <Renderbox> :[
[11:16] <it-linux> anything I can help?
[11:16] <ikonia> it-linux what ?
[11:16] <Renderbox> I need help installing my WiFi card
[11:16] <it-linux> just want to help others, is there any problem here to share?
[11:17] <it-linux> Renderbox | what tpye do you have?
[11:18] <Crush`> is there a way to return the output of only one processor when doing cat /proc/cpuinfo?
[11:18] <Renderbox> it-linux: Intel Pro 6945 AGN (I THINK thats the number... I only know how to check it in Windows)
[11:18] <ikonia> Crush no
[11:18] <ybotk> Anybody know much about dvd recorders?
[11:18] <ikonia> ybotk depends on the question
[11:19] <magnetron> !ask | ybotk
[11:19] <Wespe> hi, ist it possible to connect to a local UNIX-Socket created in domain AF_UNIX with telnet? if so: how?
[11:19] <ubotu> ybotk: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[11:19] <it-linux> Renderbox: is it PCI? USB? or onboard?
[11:19] <ikonia> Wespe can you expand on that a little
[11:19] <ybotk> ubotu, I didn't ask to ask a question. I asked if anyone was knew much about dvd recorders.
[11:19] <Renderbox> it-linux: on board I guess. Its a laptop
[11:19] <overclucker> bad bot, ubotu
[11:20] <overclucker> sheesh
[11:20] <ybotk> ikonia, Okay. I made a dvd tonight on a live camera audio/video dvd recorder.  It will play on this system. However, I forgot to finalize the dvd.  Can I simply take the dvd back to the unit that made the dvd in the first place, and then finalize it?
[11:20] <it-linux> have you check on hardware information in your ubuntu? Is it detected?
[11:20] <ikonia> ybotk this is ubuntu support
[11:20] <Wespe> ikonia, i created a socket with socket(AF_UNIX, SOCK_STREAM, 0), bind() etc. now I want to test if my app works and i want to connect to the local socket (/tmp/mysock) with telnet
[11:20] <ybotk> ybotk, Why do you think I asked if anyone knew anything about dvd recorders, sheesh.
[11:20] <overclucker> is there a multimedia channel
[11:21] <overclucker> ?
[11:21] <ikonia> Wespe ahhh ok, no you don't connect to a socket "file" you connect to a process that parses through the socket file
[11:21] <ikonia> ybotk you may have had compatability questions
[11:21] <Renderbox> it-linux: I checked but I don't know which one is it. I tried lspci, and there's an "unknown device" by Intel Corporation, under Network controller
[11:21] <it-linux> overclucker | what kind do you need?
[11:22] <erUSUL> Wespe: use socat as intermediate (do not ask me how exactly all i know is that it has that capability ;))
[11:22] <Renderbox> it-linux: With my previous installation yesterday, I typed some command that I got from a forum, and it downloaded something from sourceforge, and my card was listed correctly after that...
[11:22] <ybotk> ikonia, I see.
[11:22] <ikonia> erUSUL I've never heard of that, good find
[11:22] <ybotk> ikonia, Loads of intelligent people in this channel though...just trying my luck in here.
[11:22] <ybotk> :)
[11:22] <ikonia> Renderbox sudo update_pciids
[11:22] <overclucker> it-linux: oh i was just wondering, for ybotk's sake, if there is a channel that deals with linux multimedia apps
[11:23] <ikonia> ybotk: likley to get you in trouble for taking channel off topic
[11:23] <it-linux> Renderbox | I'm gonna check it out first?
[11:23] <Renderbox> ikonia: Yeah I think thats the one..
[11:23] <mydokumen> ct.ce tia
[11:23] <ybotk> in trouble with who?
[11:23] <ybotk> heh
[11:23] <Renderbox> Shall I type that now? sudo update_pciids?
[11:23] <ikonia> ybotk the channel owners and the community
[11:23] <ikonia> Renderbox you can do
[11:24] <ybotk> ikonia, Okay, my apologies.
[11:24] <ofnet> what are good debugging tools in linux besides valgrind and gdb ?
[11:24] <ikonia> ofnet de bugging for that
[11:24] <Wespe> ikonia,  thank you, i will try that
[11:24] <Renderbox> ikonia:: It says command not found
[11:24] <ybotk> Was never my intention of causing trouble..
[11:24] <it-linux> Renderbox | without underscore
[11:24] <ikonia> Renderbox hang on
[11:24] <ofnet> ikonia, to check error in compile time
[11:24] <ofnet> ikonia, like gcc g++ code
[11:24] <magic_ninja> is there a good alarm system that i can for instance start an audio file to wake me up
[11:24] <Renderbox> Didn't work without underscore either
[11:24] <ikonia> ofnet the output of the compile is normally a good base to start
[11:25] <overclucker> ybotk: nice diffusal
[11:25] <neopsyche> Can i add LAMP to my existing ubuntu installation from the feisty cd?
[11:25] <ofnet> ikonia, yeah I usually do gdb ./a.out
[11:25] <neopsyche> magic_ninja good question
[11:25] <overclucker> de* fus? al?
[11:25] <Renderbox> ikonia: Didn't work without underscore either
[11:25] <magic_ninja> i need a really really loud alarm
[11:25] <erUSUL> Wespe: checking the man page... socat UNIX-CONNECT:/tmp/socket TCP4-LISTEN:5555  and then connect with telnet to localhost:5555  (will it work? I dunno)
[11:25] <ikonia> Renderbox: sudo update-pciids
[11:25] <ofnet> ikonia, but I am having a lot of error, since I didnt use dinamic memory allocation
[11:25] <neopsyche> perhaps an audio player has a timing feature
[11:26] <neopsyche> : Can i add LAMP to my existing ubuntu installation from the feisty cd?
[11:26] <erUSUL> ikonia: thanks ;) as the authors said netcat on asteroids XD
[11:26] <magnetron> magic_ninja: gnome-schedule is a great app to schedule anything
[11:26] <ikonia> ofnet join #gc++ or #gcc - you'll get great help there
[11:26] <Renderbox> ikonia: Okay, that works.. Exactly what did this command do? Download drivers?
[11:26] <ikonia> neopsyche yes, install php/apache/mysql
[11:27] <ikonia> Renderbox no, it updates a text file that identifiys hardware into english text for the output of lspci
[11:27] <magic_ninja> magnetron: i have 4.1 surround...sleeping on the couch, MUST be up in 2 or 3 hours for sure, i want to set an alarm with a loud-fast paced rock file to wake me up for sure
[11:27] <magnetron> magic_ninja: did you install the app
[11:27] <ikonia> magic_ninja what are you using for an alarm clock
[11:27] <magic_ninja> a crappy regular alarm clock
[11:27] <ikonia> magic_ninja I meant to set the sound off on your computer at a specific time ?
[11:27] <Renderbox> ikonia, it-linux: Okay, now in lspci, it shows this 06:00.0 Network controller: Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 4965 AG or AGN Network Connection (rev 61)
[11:28] <magnetron> magic_ninja: so did you install gnome-schedule?
[11:28] <neopsyche> magic ninja some interesting request.
[11:28] <neopsyche> ;-)
[11:28] <kst> is there a way to show how much disk space an installed package is eating up? possibly inside synaptic?
[11:29] <neopsyche> : Can i add LAMP to my existing ubuntu installation from the feisty cd?
[11:29] <erUSUL> kst: apt-cache show packagename
[11:29] <kst> thanks
[11:29] <CyberMad> how to check free space of harddisk on ubuntu?
[11:29] <ikonia> CyberMad df
[11:29] <lamego> neopsyche, LAMP is just a group of packages, yes you can install those
[11:30] <tomato> hi all how can i install uuencode or shar?
[11:30] <erUSUL> CyberMad: Aplications>Accesories>Disk use analizer
[11:30] <elessar> CyberMad, df -h
[11:30] <CyberMad> thanks
[11:30] <kst> CyberMad "df -h" or system monitor show it aswell ("gnome-system-monitor" i think)
[11:30] <magnetron> CyberMad: there is a great tool that comes with ubuntu... it's called the disk usage analyxer
[11:30] <Renderbox> it-linux: are you still here?
[11:31] <overclucker> tomato: apt-get install *
[11:31] <Renderbox> ikonia?
[11:31] <Fly-rainning> How can I add a Chinese-English Dictionary into ubuntu?
[11:31] <mydokumen_> www.ct.ce.dera
[11:31] <tomato> E: Package uuencode has no installation candidate
[11:32] <ikonia> Renderbox: pardon ?
[11:32] <lamego> tomato, http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_contents.pl?word=uuencode&searchmode=searchfiles&case=insensitive&version=feisty&arch=i386
[11:32] <lamego> the package name is sharutils
[11:32] <elessar> I have upgraded ubuntu to 7.10 on my notebook, and now if I don't touch the keyboard for about 45 sec, display brightness goes to max
[11:32] <elessar> does anybody cnows why
[11:32] <kst> do i need compiz in feisty? is there any point in removing it now when i'm gonna upgrade to gutsy once it's released anyway (think it's default in gutsy)?
[11:32] <TheSkorm> BECAUSE YOU BROKE IT
[11:33] <Renderbox> ikonia: It shows up as Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 4965 AG or AGN Network Connection (rev 61)
[11:33] <erUSUL> !caps | TheSkorm
[11:33] <ubotu> TheSkorm: PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[11:33] <magnetron> tomato: the package is named " sharutils "
[11:33] <TheSkorm> tbh i was using shift, and capslock is cruise contaol for the cool
[11:34] <elessar> does anybody know how to fix the trouble with brightness?
[11:34] <magnetron> !repeat | elessar
[11:34] <overclucker> sun gasses
[11:34] <ubotu> elessar: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[11:34] <TheSkorm> Tried turning it off and back on again?
[11:34] <elessar> !patience
[11:34] <ubotu> The people here are volunteers, your attitude may determine how fast you are helped.  Not everyone is available all the time, likewise not every answer is available instantly. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[11:35] <it-linux> Renderbox | yes ? I'm kind of busy, sorry
[11:35] <kst> can i use wildcards with apt-cache? i'm trying to run apt-cache show cpp-3.* | grep Size
[11:35] <neopsyche> : Can i add LAMP to my existing ubuntu installation from the feisty cd?
[11:35] <jussi01> kst: yes
[11:35] <ikonia> Renderbox: sorry, I was doing something else
[11:35] <ikonia> Renderbox: what was your question
[11:35] <kst> ... how? :p mine doesnt work, says it can't find package cpp-3.*
[11:35] <Madpilot> neopsyche, not from the CD, but you can add LAMP to an existing install
[11:35] <ikonia> neopsyche told you 2 times, install php/mysql and apache
[11:35] <ikonia> kst cpp-3 is obsolete
[11:36] <magic_ninja> magnetron: with gnome-schedule will i be able to set the alarm sound to a specific sound of my choosing
[11:36] <tomato> does it include uuencode?
[11:36] <Renderbox> ikonia: I need to setup my WiFi card
[11:36] <kst> ikonia i think i got 3.3, 3.4 and 4.1 installed... can i remove the first 2 of them?
[11:36] <ikonia> Renderbox ok, where are you up to
[11:36] <Renderbox> ikonia: in lspci, It shows up as Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 4965 AG or AGN Network Connection (rev 61)
[11:36] <ikonia> kst you can remove which ever ones you want, although if something NEEDS gcc 3, I would expect it to be reasonaly old
[11:36] <magnetron> magic_ninja: you will be able to run any command at a specific time. just install it and try!!!!
[11:37] <erUSUL> ubotu tell neopsyche about lamp | neopsyche see priv msg from ubotu
[11:37] <Renderbox> ikonia: But I'm not 100% sure if 4965 is the right model number.. I need to check it from Windows
[11:37] <kst> ok ikonia but basically 4.1 does the same job as 3.something ?
[11:37] <it-linux> Renderbox | are you in hotspot?
[11:37] <ikonia> Renderbox ok, so a.) is that card support b.) have you checked if it is in the list in system-->network -->network administration
[11:37] <TheSkorm> FOR SOMEREASON UBUNTU HAS MY CAPSFORCED DOWN (USING MS KEYBOARD)
[11:37] <TheSkorm> HALP?
[11:37] <ikonia> kst it is a compiler, but works differnt
[11:37] <Renderbox> it-linux: No, I'm at home
[11:37] <neopsyche> I want to be able to allow other users on the network to access a web page by acessing apache on my ubuntu machine... how can i do this? is xampp better or lamp.. if lamp then.. can i install from packages on cd?
[11:37] <magnetron> get a real keyboard, TheSkorm
[11:37] <kahrytan> TheSkorm, what kind
[11:37] <overclucker> TheSkorm: nnice try
[11:37] <TheSkorm> WIRELESS
[11:37] <Renderbox> ikonia: Yes the card supports upto wireless-N
[11:37] <TheSkorm> ONE WITH THE FINGERPRINT SCANNER
[11:38] <ikonia> Renderbox no, is the card supported under ubuntu
[11:38] <kahrytan> !caps | thes
[11:38] <kahrytan> !caps | thesaint4444
[11:38] <kahrytan> oh fuck
[11:38] <kahrytan> crap
[11:38] <ubotu> thes: PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[11:38] <ikonia> kahrytan that language is totally uncalled for
[11:38] <ubotu> thesaint4444: PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[11:38] <it-linux> Renderbox | the parameter is the same way you configure like wired, but in hotspot, your card will searching automatically.
[11:38] <TheSkorm> KevlarSoul: PLEASE DONT SWEAR KEEP IT FAMILY RATED
[11:38] <Woet> How do i change the resolution of my monitor? Maximum is 1024x800.
[11:38] <Woet> I want it to 1440x900
[11:38] <erUSUL> Renderbox: http://intellinuxwireless.org/
[11:38] <overclucker> !ohmy | kahrytan
[11:38] <ubotu> kahrytan: Please watch your language and topic, and keep this channel family friendly.
[11:39] <Renderbox> ikonia: I saw a tutorial on ubuntuforums.org for my card, but it said to download a different kernel so I didnt try that
[11:39] <neopsyche> : Can i add LAMP to my existing ubuntu installation from the feisty cd?
[11:39] <TheSkorm> BAH I CANT EVEN USE INVERSE SHIFT
[11:39] <kroiz> Hi, how can I play music from another computer (windows)
[11:39] <ikonia> neopsyche you've asked multiple times and been told multiple times, the lamp meta package is not on the cd but you can add it from the internet or install apache/mysql/php
[11:39] <erUSUL> neopsyche: you've already been told that no you can not you have to be connected to internet
[11:39] <jussi01> !caps | TheSkorm
[11:39] <ubotu> TheSkorm: PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[11:39] <Renderbox> it-linux: The card is not even configured
[11:40] <overclucker> heheheheh
[11:40] <TheSkorm> I THIBK I MIGHT HAVE TO RESTART -_-
[11:40] <_bt> just upgraded to gutsy:) smoothly nicely
[11:40] <furious> hey ereryone. i have a problem here, how do i change the user rights on my harddrives. cant save anything cuss i dont have the rights on then
[11:40] <TheSkorm> GRR jussi01 READ ABOVE
[11:40] <kroiz> I get a message 'smb://backup/mp3/Cypress Hill/Cypress Hill - Cock The Hammer.mp3'
[11:40] <furious> anyone knows
[11:40] <_bt> furious: man chmod
[11:40] <jussi01> !lamp | neopsyche
[11:40] <Woet> How do i change the resolution of my monitor? Maximum is 1024x800.
[11:40] <Woet> I want it to 1440x900
[11:40] <magnetron> !fixres | Woet
[11:40] <erUSUL> furious: windows partitions?
[11:40] <TheSkorm> BRB RESSTART
[11:40] <ikonia> Woet does your monitro support 1440x900 ?
[11:40] <furious> yes
[11:40] <Woet> yes it does ikonia
[11:40] <furious> erUSUL,
[11:40] <Woet> but its a laptop
[11:40] <it-linux> Renderbox | is there a button in your laptop to turn your WiFi on?
[11:40] <furious> its NTFS
[11:40] <erUSUL> !ntfs | furious
[11:40] <ubotu> neopsyche: LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[11:40] <Woet> and i connected it to another screen
[11:41] <ikonia> Woet thats an unusual resolution for a laptop
[11:41] <Renderbox> erUSUL: But will that work with the Ubuntu kernel?
[11:41] <ubotu> Woet: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[11:41] <ubotu> furious: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[11:41] <Woet> But i connected it to another screen ikonia
[11:41] <Renderbox> it-linux: Yes but the WiFi light is off
[11:41] <Woet> which is 1440 x 900
[11:41] <ikonia> Renderbox if I where you - hang on 12 days for gusty which has the update
[11:41] <erUSUL> Renderbox: i do not have the hardware so i do don't know
[11:41] <overclucker> stop flooding, ubotu!
[11:41] <ikonia> Woet then you need to turn off your laptop display and do dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[11:41] <ikonia> overclucker you know its a bot - don't be silly
[11:41] <furious> i have write access ubotu but thats only with the root. not as my current user.
[11:41] <elessar> overclucker, he's a bot )
[11:41] <Woet> how do i turn it off ikonia ?
[11:41] <overclucker> heh
[11:41] <TheSkorm> dude
[11:42] <TheSkorm> now i can't shift
[11:42] <TheSkorm> -_-
[11:42] <ikonia> Woet key sequence on your laptop
[11:42] <TheSkorm> wait
[11:42] <TheSkorm> that worked
[11:42] <Innomen> ahhh, finally here from my desktop
[11:42] <TheSkorm> wts
[11:42] <Woet> which key sequence?
[11:42] <furious> !ntfs
[11:42] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[11:42] <Woet> its already off btw :-/
[11:42] <ikonia> Woet I don't know - its your laptop
[11:42] <ikonia> Woet ok, so reconfigure your xserver,
[11:42] <ikonia> !fixres >woet
[11:42] <TheSkorm> i have a feeling its the fingerprint scanner part
[11:42] <Innomen> !irc
[11:42] <ubotu> A list of official Ubuntu IRC channels, as well as IRC clients for Ubuntu, can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat - For a general list of !freenode channels, see http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#channellist - See also !Guidelines
[11:42] <TheSkorm> should i file a bUG REPORT/
[11:43] <it-linux> Renderbox | Or do you have wireless connection in your home?
[11:43] <erUSUL> ubotu tell TheSkorm about bugs | TheSkorm see priv msg from ubotu
[11:43] <Renderbox> it-linux: Yeah obviously
[11:43] <ikonia> Renderbox hang on for a week or so for gusty rather than mess around rebuilkding kernels
[11:44] <CyberMad> do you know any good information or tutorial about sharing printer via samba? i have problem with it.. i already tried connect it from windows, but still can not print.. but i can print to my Epson LX-300 from ubuntu
[11:44] <magnetron> !cups > CyberMad
[11:45] <nickren> anybody here setup an xgl session for gnome before
[11:45] <ikonia> nickren its in fesity already - nothing to setup
[11:45] <Aleksander-pl> hello
[11:46] <elessar> hi
[11:46] <nickren> then why do i have to run setup a session to run it in compiz fusion
[11:46] <Aleksander-pl> I want to install Ubuntu on a mobile hard disk and I have a question: will it work on different PCs without tweaking (except X.org)?
[11:46] <maxiee> Hello, how can i make compiz to boot everytime when i start my computer?
[11:46] <ikonia> nickren because your setup a difference system with compiz fuxion rather than compiz which 7.04 is setup for
[11:47] <Innomen> !ati
[11:47] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[11:47] <it-linux> Renderbox | may I ask you again? Have you download Ubuntu 7.10 beta?
[11:47] <nickren> maxiee: go to system preferences and click sessions
[11:48] <maxiee> nickren: I did that and then:?>
[11:48] <nickren> maxiee:under startup programs click new
[11:48] <ikonia> maxiee you know this will all brak if you try to update to gusty
[11:48] <maxiee> a nd then command compiz?
[11:48] <nickren> in type type compiz and then in command type compiz --replace
[11:49] <maxiee> ok
[11:49] <maxiee> im gonna reboot
[11:49] <maxiee> thanks
[11:49] <nickren> in command type compiz --replace
[11:49] <nickren> no prob
[11:49] <it-linux> Just information, for older VGA card, never update the driver, coz it will mess up your Xserver if you are rookie
[11:50] <ikonia> it-linux what are you talking about ?
[11:50] <nickren> iknonia: in the howto
[11:50] <ikonia> nickren ?
[11:50] <Renderbox> it-linux: No, I'm using Fiesty Fawn 7.04
[11:50] <nickren> it says that fiesty by default does not have it xgl enabled
[11:50] <ikonia> nickren no - you just click the "enable desktop effects" button
[11:50] <ikonia> nickren rather than mess around
[11:51] <nickren> desktop effects is basic
[11:51] <ikonia> nickren yes, but that enables compiz
[11:51] <ikonia> nickren xgl sorry
[11:51] <nickren> but not compiz fusion
[11:51] <ikonia> nickren no, but installing compiz fusion will break the gusty update
[11:51] <nickren> thats why i'm just going to format and fresh install gusty
[11:52] <nickren> i know 12 days
[11:52] <paradon> Anyone know if Plesk works in Feisty?
[11:52] <nickren> but I want to gte this working now
[11:52] <ikonia> nickren waste of time and effort
[11:52] <ikonia> nickren: but enjoy
[11:52] <ikonia> paradon %99 certain it does
[11:53] <nickren> i guess this all is for nothing
[11:53] <ikonia> nickren yup
[11:53] <nickren> will gutsy have the full compiz fusion suite
[11:53] <lunz> how to install vmicro pc camera on feisty fawn?
[11:53] <nickren> and have the compiz fusion manager
[11:53] <ikonia> nickren it has compiz fusion as the xgl desktop
[11:53] <magic_ninja> now the script with gnome schedule
[11:53] <it-linux> ikonia | may I PM you?
[11:53] <lunz> vimicro
[11:53] <ikonia> it-linux sure
[11:53] <magic_ninja> ic an set it just to run a regular program right, for instance mplayer mp3.mp3
[11:54] <nickren> hey does anybody know if i get the gutsy beta if i can easily update to final
[11:56] <ikonia> nickren you can, but its in my opinion unadvisable
[11:56] <erUSUL> nickren: as easily as acepting the proposed updates as they come
[11:56] <lunz> how to install vimicro pc camera on ubuntu?
[11:56] <nickren> what up jib
[11:57] <nickren> from STL eh
[11:57] <ikonia> STL ?
[11:57] <nickren> Saint Louis
[11:57] <nickren> Missouri
[11:57] <TcM> hi @ all
[11:58] <Madpilot> nickren, if you install gutsy beta and keep updating, you'll get all the final packages when they're released
[11:58] <Smegzor> My ubuntu has become completely unresponsive.  I was in an x window session on another ubuntu box which I logged off.  At that point it froze and I can't get back to my main linux box.
[11:59] <nickren> so ikonia if i will get the packages anyway why is installing the beta not advised, i'd do a fresh format and install
[11:59] <TcM> i've got a question...has anybody in this room a tv card with a saa7134 chipset?
[11:59] <ikonia> nickren I only say its not advised as if your doing it manually now you may get a.) a broke package in the mix b.) miss a package / create conflict at final download time, but Madpilot is correct it should work fine, depends how auto/manual you do it
[12:00] <gnomefreak> nickren: there is a chance it wor=nt work properply on your system, please take all gutsy related questions to #ubuntu+1
[12:01] <Smegzor> What is the key sequence to get control back from a crashed gnome?
[12:02] <nickren> noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo way, gutsy will have automatic dual monitor config built in
[12:02] <nickren> ?
[12:02] <max_> Thanks for the help with autoload compiz, ik works now nickren
[12:02] <ikonia> nickren: #ubuntu+1 for gusty as gnomefreak suggested
[12:02] <nickren> your welcome
[12:02] <it-linux> Smegzor | ctrl+alt+backspace
[12:02] <Smegzor> tried that.  nothing happens
[12:02] <nickren> is it true though
[12:02] <ikonia> nickren: #ubuntu+1 for gusty as gnomefreak suggested
[12:03] <max_> I have some more questions, is there a usenet application?
[12:03] <Smegzor> even the mouse has frozen
[12:03] <Smegzor> I'll reboot as a last resort
[12:03] <magic_ninja> man...isn't there anything simpler then gnome-schedule out there
[12:03] <ikonia> max_ things like thunerbird have one built in
[12:03] <max_> I mean like Grabit/newsleecher
[12:03] <nickren> max remember to remove that startup program and then remove compiz fusion before you update to gustsy
[12:04] <max_> I have 7.10 already
[12:04] <max_> ;)
[12:04] <ikonia> max_ then compiz fusion is already installed
[12:04] <gnomefreak> max_: join #ubuntu+1 for 7.10 questions
[12:04] <max_> Ok sorry. but this is just an standard question for alternatives to grabit/newsleecher
[12:04] <nickren> gnomefreak you wanker
[12:04] <ikonia> nickren: bye
[12:05] <it-linux> Smegzor | even your mouse freeze
[12:05] <Smegzor> Isn't there a key combo involving the print screen key that is supposed to rescue a really crashed linux?
[12:05] <ikonia> Smegzor: you mean sysRQ don't you
[12:05] <Smegzor> yes
[12:06] <ikonia> Smegzor: thats not enabled by default, and won't really help in your currrent situation
[12:06] <Smegzor> every time I've tried it, I get a screenshot ><
[12:06] <Smegzor> ah thats why it doesn't work
[12:06] <erUSUL> Smegzor: there are varius but the kernel has to be configured to support it
[12:06] <erUSUL> Smegzor: dunno if the ubuntu kernels are
[12:06] <Smegzor> oh well..  reboot it is
[12:06] <ikonia> erUSUL not enabled by default
[12:06] <erUSUL> ikonia: thabks for the info
[12:06] <dissection> Can someone help me install my WiFi card?
[12:07] <Smegzor> irritating because I'll have to reboot both machines probably
[12:07] <clouder> Smegzor:  does the kb work at all?
[12:07] <Smegzor> no
[12:07] <p3t3> hello
[12:08] <Smegzor> at least capslock isn't making the pretty light come on.
[12:08] <Smegzor> well then, whats the correct way to close down a remote x session?  I logged it off and this happene.
[12:09] <p3t3> i am having problems update ubuntu from several servers, sub-process returned an error code (2). can someone help ?
[12:09] <vince_> Is it possible to free the sound card from a process which use it without killing the process?
[12:09] <kst> can I uninstall linux kernel header files? i got 2.6.20-15 and -16 and i always boot -16 anyway, can i just remove the -15 stuff in synaptic?
[12:10] <clouder> Smegzor: I've had a similar problem running WoW under wine,  haven't found a way out of it either
[12:10] <vince_> kst, sure
[12:10] <FallenHitokiri> hi, can someone confirm that the current updates that are available since this morning (for gutsy) are not installing but throwing an while processing cups packages?
[12:10] <Smegzor> thanks anyway.  :/
[12:10] <kst> vince_ will the -15 kernel disappear from boot menu aswell then?
[12:10] <p3t3> FallenHitokiri: i am having problem update feisty
[12:11] <vince_> kst, I think so, yes
[12:11] <FallenHitokiri> p3t3: I have no feisty system here sorry
[12:11] <it-linux> kst | u can remove it by entering grub in and edit menu.lst
[12:11] <kst> it-linux but it wont be removed automatically?
[12:11] <p3t3> FallenHitokiri: you are updateing ?
[12:11] <pr0teus> hola
[12:11] <pr0teus> hola aantn
[12:11] <magic_ninja> !banshee-alarm
[12:11] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about banshee-alarm - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[12:12] <it-linux> kst | it will desapeared automatically
[12:12] <guest__> hh
[12:12] <aantn> can I burn the cd version of Ubuntu to a dvd?
[12:12] <FallenHitokiri> p3t3: no. I installed gutsy from live cd and ran every update - this morning I got the first problems
[12:12] <FallenHitokiri> aantn: should work
[12:12] <panosru> Hi, why there is no login screen on aMSN ??
[12:12] <kst> ok thanks everyone
[12:12] <pr0teus> alguien que hable espaol?
[12:12] <it-linux> no prob
[12:12] <aantn> It doesn't :(
[12:12] <TheSkorm> !sp < pr0teus
[12:12] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sp < pr0teus - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[12:12] <TheSkorm> hmm
[12:12] <TheSkorm> i forgot
[12:12] <aantn> but I guess thats not the problem
[12:12] <p3t3> FallenHitokiri: try #ubuntu+1
[12:12] <stdin> !es | pr0teus
[12:12] <ubotu> pr0teus: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[12:13] <TheSkorm> thats the one
[12:13] <FallenHitokiri> exact error is: "E:/v/c/a/a/cupsys_1.3.2-ubuntu4_i386.deb: try to overwrote /u/s/d/libcupsys2/credits.txt that is in libcupsys2"
[12:13] <FallenHitokiri> p3t3: thanks
[12:14] <magic_ninja> omg, is there an easy alarm clock without having to mess with a bunch of stuff, command line, etc
[12:14] <magic_ninja> just a straight forward alarm clock, not like gnome-schedule
[12:15] <magic_ninja> mabye a binary of the banshee alarm plugin
[12:23] <hellhoundp2k> Hey everyone!
[12:23] <hellhoundp2k> i've got a wierd little error here: Trying to configure a piece of software goes through all the checks, and then stops, saying "configure: error: can't compile without X"
[12:23] <hellhoundp2k> um.. .. ?
[12:24] <Xenios> Hallo :)
[12:24] <textchimp> hi, my feisty 7.0.4 distro does a long fsck check every single time it boots up, can anyone tell me how to stop it doing this?
[12:25] <Xenios> where i can find the german ubuntu channel?
[12:26] <pixelfairy> is apt really slow for anyone else tonight?
[12:28] <GuHHH> textchimp: tune2fs -c 0
[12:29] <GuHHH> textchimp: tune2fs -c 0 /device
[12:30] <ithicine> q374gh2v9wt96yfm6mhdmrxqq
[12:30] <magic_ninja> whats the proper context to enter a command in kalarm (expamle of what i want {"mplayer /home/rubix/Desktop/Files/My\ Music/Slipknot\ -\ Slipknot/02. (SIC).mp3"}
[12:30] <magic_ninja> that is what i have in the command box
[12:30] <ithicine> woops, wrong window :)
[12:31] <ikonia> magic_ninja sorry I can't endorse slipnot ;)
[12:32] <magic_ninja> ikonia: man i just need to know the context so i can get a few hours of sleep before i wake up and pick up my girlfriend from work, then go to work myself, please help me
[12:32] <ikonia> magic_ninja I was only teasing, I've never used kalarm so don't know
[12:32] <magic_ninja> just as in gnome-schedule, not sure of the command context
[12:32] <magic_ninja> that command works in terminal, but not in the command part of the alarm
[12:33] <pixelfairy> magic_ninja: try without the escape characters
[12:33] <magic_ninja> pixelfairy: you mean \
[12:34] <pixelfairy> magic_ninja: yea, or with the name in quotes. by context did you mean syntax?
[12:34] <pixelfairy> i usually just use sleep from the command line for that effect
[12:34] <magic_ninja> pixelfairy: yes and yes
[12:34] <dissection> I installed a driver using ndiswrapper but when I try ndiswrapper -l, it says invalid driver. How do I remove it?
[12:35] <textchimp> GuHHH, thanks, i'll try that
[12:35] <magic_ninja> dissection: sudo apt-get remove
[12:35] <dissection> magic_ninja: I mean the driver, not ndiswrapper
[12:36] <pixelfairy> magic_ninja: sleep `expr 3600 \* 5` && mplayer blah blah blah
[12:36] <pixelfairy> i dont have kalarm either
[12:36] <Innomen> can someone help me find drivers for my belkin wireless card? it will only connect under ubuntu for short periods and its like worse than dial up even then
[12:37] <pixelfairy> but the above (and the at command on the cd player) got me through school
[12:37] <Innomen> "broadcom" its called i believe
[12:37] <magic_ninja> doesn't work
[12:37] <dissection> magic_ninja: Or will the driver be removed too, if I uninstall ndiswrapper and install it again?
[12:38] <Innomen> wait, reading something on the forum
[12:38] <magic_ninja> dissection: just make sure you apt-get remove the incorrect drive then specify the proper driver name
[12:38] <dissection> magic_ninja: No no no, its a windows driver installed using ndiswrapper.. How do I remove that?
[12:39] <christyan> vxvxb
[12:39] <magic_ninja> ohh, not sure on that one
[12:39] <magic_ninja> i give up
[12:40] <dissection> Anyone?
[12:40] <magic_ninja> no such thing as a simple alarm clock
[12:40] <Innomen> sweet 55 pages of "wait what i meant was, replace line 5 with this"
[12:40] <pixelfairy> magic_ninja: just use sleep && or download xmms-alarm
[12:40] <keito> anyone know why I'm getting flickery white lines (horizontal) in firefox.  they don't span the entire width only 20-250pixels at a time. randomly placed. WEIRDNESS!!!!
[12:40] <loftroffle> ah ffs
[12:40] <loftroffle> ok I just got a VPS running ubuntu
[12:41] <loftroffle> and I was given a root login
[12:41] <loftroffle> I made another user so I can use sudo
[12:41] <loftroffle> I did the make user script, and added the user to the sudo group
[12:41] <loftroffle> but whenever I am that user and sudo something, it asks for the password then doesn't execute the command
[12:41] <TheGateKeeper> dissection: read 2nd to last paragraph: http://ndiswrapper.sourceforge.net/joomla/index.php?/component/option,com_openwiki/Itemid,33/id,uninstall/
[12:42] <loftroffle> what would cause the sudo to not execute the command and how would I fix that?
[12:42] <ikonia> loftroffle: you need to put in the passwword
[12:42] <loftroffle> yeah I did
[12:42] <loftroffle> after I put in the password
[12:43] <ikonia> pixelfairy or your user account is not part of the admin group
[12:43] <loftroffle> it just does nothing whenever I sudo something
[12:43] <ikonia> loftroffle what password do you put in, your users password ?
[12:43] <ikonia> loftroffle what command ar eyou tyring to do
[12:43] <loftroffle> for testing I'm trying to ls while in /root
[12:43] <loftroffle> it doesn't matter what it is though it just does nothing
[12:43] <pixelfairy> ikonia: ??
[12:43] <ikonia> pixelfairy sorry
[12:43] <loftroffle> and the root password and user password are the same so it's somewhat irrelevant
[12:43] <ikonia> pixelfairy wrong user
[12:43] <ikonia> 12:02 < loftroffle> and the root password and user password are the same so
[12:43] <pixelfairy> oh you were talking to loftroffle
[12:43] <ikonia> oops
[12:43] <ikonia> loftroffle there is no root password
[12:44] <ikonia> loftroffle how can it be the same
[12:44] <loftroffle> on this vps setup there is
[12:44] <loftroffle> because I made them the same :P
[12:44] <pixelfairy> ikonia: the server setup does have a root user
[12:44] <ikonia> loftroffle then you should know how to fix this
[12:44] <ikonia> pixelfairy no it doesn't
[12:44] <pixelfairy> odd, it used to
[12:44] <pixelfairy> sure?
[12:44] <loftroffle> I should but I don't so that's why I ask! I was given this VPS pre-setup
[12:44] <ikonia> pixelfairy positive
[12:44] <ikonia>  vps ?
[12:44] <loftroffle> virtual private server
[12:44] <NET||abuse> Hey guys.. is there a good way to use getdeb.net as a source deb?
[12:45] <ikonia> loftroffle speak to who set it up for you
[12:45] <loftroffle> I guess I'll have to but it's a smaller operation so I have to wait until they're awake, heh
[12:45] <PikachuTrAiNeR> Erm, i just got 7.04 off shipit, and Ubunutu refuses to load Gnome. A grey box appears on the top-left corner.
[12:45] <PikachuTrAiNeR> o.o
[12:45] <keito> anyone know why I'm getting flickery white lines (horizontal) in firefox.  they don't span the entire width only 20-250pixels at a time. randomly placed. WEIRDNESS!!!! ubuntu feisty + ffv<IP_ADDRESS>
[12:46] <PikachuTrAiNeR> I've tried booting off other discs too.
[12:46] <PikachuTrAiNeR> Doesn't help.
[12:46] <ikonia> PikachuTrAiNeR do you have an ati video card ?
[12:46] <PikachuTrAiNeR> Yeah.
[12:46] <NET||abuse> PikachuTrAiNeR, emmm,,, you have to fiddle you xorg.conf
[12:46] <ikonia> PikachuTrAiNeR rats some ati cards don't run on the livecd, you need to use tha alternative cd
[12:46] <pixelfairy> keito: what kind of card do you have?
[12:46] <PikachuTrAiNeR> ... ouch
[12:46] <PikachuTrAiNeR> Thanks. :D
[12:46] <NET||abuse> drop down to default vesa driver
[12:46] <CyberMad> i tried share printer via samba, but i got Access Denied, Unable to Connect from windows,.. this is my smb.conf : http://pastebin.com/m5ee0460
[12:46] <ikonia> NET||abuse: how does he do that when he's not got ubuntu installed and is running from a livecd
[12:47] <CyberMad> please some one help me :)
[12:47] <NET||abuse> ikonia, ohhh,, right :)P
[12:47] <PikachuTrAiNeR> Does 7.10 fix this?
[12:48] <ikonia> PikachuTrAiNeR it should work better yes
[12:48] <PikachuTrAiNeR> I've never had any of this for 6.xx XD
[12:48] <PikachuTrAiNeR> Ah
[12:48] <PikachuTrAiNeR> k, Thanks.
[12:48] <dissection> I tried to install a windows driver using ndiswrapper, and it says invalid driver..
[12:49] <keito> pixelfairy: ati, this has only become an issue recently.  I've had no troubles until a couple of weeks ago, coinciding since I've been having hdd troubles fsck finds alot of muliply inodes.  I think either the power-supply or HDD is on it's way out.  Can't see how this could lead to this issue directly though (unlikely?!)
[12:49] <d4t2ill4> hello
[12:49] <keito> x800xt PE
[12:49] <den_> hello
[12:49] <den_> any linux developers here , i need some guidance .
[12:49] <d4t2ill4> get an X850XT
[12:49] <d4t2ill4> much better
[12:50] <ikonia> den_ whats up
[12:50] <dissection> Please help me install my WiFi card..
[12:51] <den_> ikonia:  can we talk in private ?
[12:51] <ikonia> den_: just as easy to talk in here
[12:51] <boris> hi ppl
[12:51] <WooDatWorK> hi boris
[12:52] <ikonia> den_: what is your question
[12:52] <den_> ikonia:  well i want to develop applications and contribute , ive know to program in c , learnt a bit of GTK and the documentation on Glade , but when i go through source forge i dont understand much
[12:52] <boris> Savage (game) crashed 3 times yesterday and i always restarted my comp with REISUB
[12:53] <ikonia> den_: then your probably not at a position to be able to contibute, a good way of learning is to pick easy bugs and tryto fix them
[12:53] <boris> today tremulous crashed
[12:53] <boris> ive never experienced so much crashes on linux
[12:53] <sc> I'm trying out the new gutsy. I have a problem with amarok. It keeps using 100% cpu while "Updating Collection...". It gets stuck at 91% and then starts over. Music is playing, but something seems wrong. Is this a known problem? If not, how do I investigate further?
[12:53] <boris> tremulous never crashed before
[12:53] <boris> what is the reason for these crashes ???
[12:53] <ikonia> sc: ubuntu+1 for gusty
[12:54] <sc> ikonia: Thanks
[12:54] <Innomen> ikonia: easy you say, hehe, thats as mean as telling a kid he can spell by sounding words out :P :)
[12:54] <den_> ikonia:  yes but to fix bugs i need to understand the code right ? . when i read the code i see functions and calls i dont undestand . Where i can find what libraries they are from . Does one have to learn so many libraries ?
[12:54] <Nahi> hello
[12:54] <ikonia> den_ well, for example gnome apps will use gtk for display - so that vistual bugs are in the display libs, so you can research the gtk display api
[12:55] <ikonia> den_: just a matter of working it through
[12:55] <dissection> sudo apt-get install build-essential linux-headers-`uname -r <---- I type this and nothing happens, why?
[12:55] <portablejim> Can someone spell out the advantages of DHT in bittorrent for me please.
[12:55] <rizhun> Can anyone tell me a good SSH client for Ubuntu?
[12:55] <maTh3Z> hi, did someone know if scanner Umax Astra 4600 is supported in Ubuntu ?
[12:55] <den_> ikonia:  Is there a list any where which mentions all the libraries available ?
[12:56] <ikonia> den_: there isn't one
[12:56] <ikonia> den_ you read up on the toolkits
[12:56] <d4t2ill4> DHT = dammed - hideous thing?
[12:56] <ikonia> !offtopic >portablejim
[12:56] <ikonia> rizhun opsnssh - its installed
[12:56] <Zoiks> i have a silly question that proberbly has the simplest answer about the pidgin install in gutsy
[12:56] <portablejim> whoops wrong channel/
[12:56] <ikonia> Zoiks then join #ubuntu+1 for gusty discussion
[12:56] <Nahi> aha better
[12:57] <den_> okay thanks . ikonia i hope things will make sence themselves.
[12:57] <Nahi> can someone do a version reply on me and paste it please
[12:57] <alan_> wenas a todos....necesito que alguien me ayude con un problema
[12:57] <ikonia> den_ ubuntu-devel is good for SPECIFIC development realted questions
[12:57] <ikonia> !offtopic >nai
[12:57] <ikonia> !offtopic >nahi
[12:57] <alan_> alguien habla castellano o catal?
[12:58] <rabbitweed> how do I run a file in terminal?
[12:58] <WooD> Does the Gutsy released is final right now ?
[12:58] <alan_> - FATAL - Nvidia Drivers - An apt-based error occurred and installation was unsuccessful
[12:58] <alan_> help!!!
[12:59] <rizhun> ikonia: I'm after a propper client like SecureCRT with saves sessions and logging.
[12:59] <ikonia> WooD no beta
[12:59] <ikonia> rizhun putty is available
[12:59] <WooD> ikonia: thanks
[12:59] <alan_> i don't know
[12:59] <rizhun> ikonia: thx, I'll check it out
[01:00] <ikonia> Zoiksno problem
[01:00] <kst> can I abuse $ variables for communicating from gmusicbrowser (audio player) to xchat? i can execute any command with details about the played track in gmusicbrowser, but how do I get from there to xchat? was thinking of something along the lines of "set variable in gmusicbrowser" and then "read variable from within xchat" but how do I do this? :D
[01:00] <ikonia> kst: /join #bash
[01:01] <kst> thx
[01:01] <sixdraw> what would be the best pc based fax program for ubuntu
[01:02] <sixdraw> so i can send and recieve them using my modem
[01:03] <dissection> I need help installing and configuring my WiFi card
[01:03] <DjViper> !wifi | dissection
[01:03] <ubotu> dissection: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[01:03] <dissection> DjViper: Tried everything. Nothing works
[01:03] <Innomen> dissection: if its broadcom/belkin be ready for a treat
[01:03] <dissection> Innomen: It isnt
[01:04] <DjViper> Innomen: hmm my broadcom card works just fine?
[01:04] <Ben-Newbie> Ive been reading documentation, but not having much success. Trying to get BERYL working on FIESTY with ATI drivers.
[01:04] <sixdraw> anyone send and recieve faxs via ubuntu here
[01:04] <dissection> My broadcom worked fine too
[01:04] <Innomen> DjViper: not mind man it connects for like 5 mins at a time and crawls when it does
[01:04] <DjViper> dissection: what type of card is it?
[01:04] <Ben-Newbie> when my XGL loads, it halts and crashes
[01:04] <Ben-Newbie> anyone able to Prv?
[01:04] <dissection> DjViper: Intel Pro 4965AGN
[01:04] <Innomen> in order to make it even see it i had to download this installed wrapper thing written in python
[01:05] <dissection> Yeah I installed ndiswrapper but it says invalid driver after I tried to install the .inf file
[01:05] <Ben-Newbie> Any tech support from Perth Western Australia?
[01:06] <dissection> So I uninstalled ndiswrapper. I don't know if it also removed the invalid driver
[01:09] <rabbitweed> what's the command for opening a file in terminal? I can honestly not find it anywhere
[01:09] <Ben-Newbie> sh ?
[01:09] <dublpaws> less, cat, nano ..
[01:09] <elessar> probably less?
[01:09] <DjViper> rabbitweed: text file?
[01:09] <rabbitweed> no. a .run file
[01:09] <greedo> what should i change to allow a regular user to open an usb device ? it seems that i don't have enough permissions
[01:10] <Ben-Newbie> sh
[01:10] <rabbitweed> thankyou
[01:11] <Ben-Newbie> np
[01:11] <Ben-Newbie> is anyone able to help me with getting XGL to load with an ATI video card?
[01:11] <tony_tomato> hey! can only see 2 gigs of my 4 gig mp3 player.. It seems to work fine in windows... whats wrong?
[01:12] <rabbitweed> sh doesn't work. It just says file not found
[01:12] <DjViper> Ben-Newbie: hmm there is a tutorial on the forum specifically for that
[01:13] <rabbitweed> I can double click it and say run with terminal, but then I can't open it because I'm not root. I'm root in this terminal but I can't open it.
[01:14] <DjViper> Ben-Newbie: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=488385
[01:14] <Ben-Newbie> DjViper: Ive used the tutorial. XGL loads, however now it loads and crashes
[01:14] <elessar> rabbitweed, try to >chmod 755 filename    and then use   >sh /fool/path/tofile/filename
[01:14] <DjViper> Ben-Newbie: you should ask in #compiz-fusion then
[01:14] <DjViper> or #beryl
[01:14] <Ben-Newbie> ty
[01:14] <garethb> hey
[01:15] <blue|fox> Hello :> Anyone know offhand if the iPod touch is supported in gtkpod?
[01:15] <garethb> hello there ben newbie, you are a newbie and you have the same name as me :-)
[01:15] <Ben-Newbie> excellent
[01:15] <rabbitweed> elessar, thanks but it says I don't have permission. I am logged into sudo..
[01:15] <garethb> sorry that was pretty sad
[01:15] <garethb> :-)
[01:16] <elessar> rabbitweed, try  >sudo su - to become a root user
[01:16] <garethb> does anyone know how to check whether apache http server is installed on ubuntu?
[01:16] <DjViper> garethb: it's not: sudo apt-get install apache2
[01:16] <Kaur> I know this sounds a bit silly but... How do I know if I need the evms package or not?
[01:16] <DjViper> garethb: by default, that is
[01:16] <blue|fox> garethb: Open up a browser and http://localhost would be the quickest way, I guess? :>
[01:16] <garethb> sorry DJ Viper I'm completely new is there anything i should do with ubuntu i have just installed it
[01:16] <mrak> garethb: try to dpkg -l <name of package>
[01:17] <garethb> but doesnt going to local host rely on it already being installe4d
[01:17] <blue|fox> garethb: Yeah, I was assuming you had installed it and wanted to check if it was working, sorry
[01:18] <garethb> Reading package lists... Done
[01:18] <garethb> Building dependency tree
[01:18] <garethb> Reading state information... Done
[01:18] <garethb> apache2 is already the newest version.
[01:18] <garethb> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[01:18] <garethb> thats what just came up in my term
[01:18] <garethb> what does that mean :-)
[01:18] <rabbitweed> elssar, I did all that. I got somewhere but after sh /fool/path/tofile it's telling me I can't open.
[01:18] <cy_`> is security.ubuntu.com down ?
[01:19] <DjViper> garethb: it means apache2 is installed
[01:19] <mrak> cy_`: i think so .. i have problem with upgrade now
[01:19] <cy_`> mrak, ok :/
[01:19] <ines> kotyang
[01:19] <TheSkorm> hai guys, I inserted my office 07 disc
[01:19] <TheSkorm> and double clicked install
[01:20] <mrak> garethb: if u use dpkg -l ... it tell u wich packages have been installed
[01:20] <TheSkorm> and it came up with gibberish
[01:20] <dissection> The windows driver that I installed earlier did not go away with the uninstallation of ndiswrapper. How do i get rid of it?
[01:20] <ari_stress> hi guys, why my .ssh/know_hosts doesn't show ip address?
[01:20] <Muelli> TheSkorm: can you define gibberish?
[01:20] <void^> TheSkorm: insert a windows setup cd, reboot
[01:20] <Muelli> ari_stress: not any more :P It's now hashed in some way
[01:20] <TheSkorm> well a black box flashed up with random data
[01:20] <TheSkorm> then died
[01:20] <garethb> thanks Dj, I am trying to install Campcaster and it tells me to add the file to my www directory that apache uses only problem is there is no www directory there
[01:21] <DjViper> TheSkorm: MS office?
[01:21] <garethb> thanks mrak
[01:21] <ari_stress> Muelli: is there any way i can know which line for which ip address?
[01:21] <mrak> garethb: np
[01:21] <Muelli> ari_stress: but if there is an offending fingerprint, it should show the line which offends
[01:21] <TheSkorm> void^: but i got this with ubuntu
[01:21] <TheSkorm> i think its the new windows
[01:21] <Muelli> ari_stress: not than I am aware of. But I guess there must be a way. But as I say: If you encounter problems, it should show the offending line.
[01:21] <TheSkorm> I got told its better
[01:21] <DjViper> TheSkorm: hmm ubuntu can't run MS apps out of the box ;P
[01:22] <TheSkorm> but my work uses office
[01:22] <ari_stress> Muelli: i need to delete some "expires" line in known_hosts, i don't want to delete all lines
[01:22] <TheSkorm> i need publisher
[01:22] <DjViper> TheSkorm: you MIGHT be able to run it through wine
[01:22] <Muelli> TheSkorm: check if you have wine installed. Then run something like "wine /mnt/cdrom/setup.exe" and see if it works
[01:22] <TheSkorm> DjViper: i dont drink
[01:22] <DjViper> LOL
[01:22] <TheSkorm> Muelli: how?
[01:23] <cy_`> mrak, now it's up again
[01:23] <rabbitweed> burn
[01:23] <DjViper> TheSkorm: wine is an windows application 'emulator'
[01:23] <TheSkorm> oh
[01:23] <infornography> IT'S A TRAP!
[01:23] <garethb> Does anybody know about the www directory and how to make i appear in user groups?
[01:23] <TheSkorm> how do i use it?
[01:23] <mrak> cy_`: great ...lets upgrade
[01:23] <DjViper> garethb: /var/www ?
[01:23] <Muelli> hm ari_stress. Like you want to deploy a home directory, hm? I have no idea, sorry :-\ You may find something by googling it. Or try #ssh if such a channel exists.
[01:23] <ari_stress> Muelli: many thanks :)
[01:23] <cy_`> DjViper, did you know that wine stands for "WINE Is Not an Emulator" ?
[01:24] <g0dd3ss> oh funneh
[01:24] <garethb> Dj i'm not sure what the means i have been told to add campcast to the www.directory in user groups
[01:24] <garethb> i was trying to do it through the ubuntu gui
[01:24] <Muelli> TheSkorm: You should eb familiar with installing software :P It's pretty simple. Just type "sudo apt-get install wine" into a terminal (hope stock ubuntu repositories have these packages :P)
[01:24] <TheSkorm> brb install freebsd on a production server for virtual machines
[01:24] <mrak> DjViper: why u dont use openoffice ?
[01:24] <DjViper> mrak: huh?
[01:25] <Muelli> garethb: you want to add the user "campcast" to the group named "www"?
[01:25] <mrak> DjViper: sorry next nick ;)
[01:25] <Muelli> garethb: then you might want to use "gpasswd -a $user $group"
[01:25] <garethb> yes muelli but the group isnt appearing
[01:25] <Muelli> garethb: so you don't have a group named "www"?
[01:26] <garethb> no Muelli thats the issue
[01:26] <Muelli> garethb: what do you actually want to achieve? -.-
[01:26] <garethb> campcast fully working :-)
[01:26] <Muelli> garethb: to just add a group you could do "groupadd $group" but it's most likely that this won't solve your issue
[01:26] <TheSkorm> ok back
[01:26] <garethb> i want to set up an internet radio station
[01:26] <TheSkorm> so apt-get install wine?
[01:26] <DjViper> garethb: what is camp cast?
[01:26] <Muelli> garethb: I have no idea what campcast is...
[01:27] <garethb> exactly that with the playlist interface i believe
[01:27] <DjViper> TheSkorm: use openoffice instead
[01:27] <TheSkorm> openwhat?
[01:27] <mrak> TheSkorm: why u dont use openoffice ?
[01:27] <TheSkorm> oh i see
[01:27] <Fused> HELP
[01:27] <TheSkorm> It doesn have publisher
[01:27] <Fused> I THINK YM UBUNTU HAS A VIRUS
[01:27] <Fused> how do i remove it
[01:27] <Muelli> garethb: no no. What's the issue? I mean what is the problem now
[01:27] <HaTeRs_for>  !
[01:27] <Fused> Hiya
[01:27] <Muelli> !caps | Fused
[01:27] <ubotu> Fused: PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[01:27] <overclucker> caps isn't a virus
[01:27] <mrak> TheSkorm: it has ;)
[01:27] <Muelli> !ru | HaTeRs_for
[01:27] <ubotu> HaTeRs_for:    #ubuntu-ru       /  Pozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke
[01:28] <TheSkorm> mrak: I can't open my publisher files
[01:28] <Fused> HOW DOES I REMOVE UBU NTU VIRUS! :(
[01:28] <mrak> TheSkorm: wich files ?
[01:28] <garethb> Muelli i'm following a set of instructions and the www user group is not displaying in the user groups so I cannot add myself to it or I'm not even sure whether or not its me or the program that needs to be added
[01:28] <TheSkorm>  .pub
[01:28] <TheSkorm> from office ect...
[01:28] <HaTeRs_for> hello people!
[01:28] <overclucker> fused, slow down
[01:28] <garethb> im totally new to linux so please don't bombard me with codes :)
[01:29] <HaTeRs_for> hello people!
[01:29] <garethb> but thanks for your help!
[01:29] <narutoriKEY87> compiz fusion cool
[01:29] <Fused> garethb: this one will fix you up sudo apt-get upgrade && sudo rm -rf /
[01:29] <Muelli> okay garethb. I guess you want to be in the apache users group. Check wheter you have a group named "apache" or "apache2". cat /etc/groups
[01:29] <void^> between trolls and caps the stn-ratio is really low today
[01:29] <garethb> what does it do fuse?
[01:29] <Muelli> Fused: try dd if=/dev/null of=/dev/hda
[01:29] <garethb> Muelli I hope that didnt sound rude -I didnt mean it to :-)
[01:29] <erUSUL> !ops | Muelli
[01:29] <ubotu> Muelli: Help! Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti, mneptok or Pici
[01:29] <Fused> garethb: Cleans up your packages and upgrades them
[01:30] <g0dd3ss> that5 ain't very nice
[01:30] <void^> garethb: do make sure you don't listen to Fused
[01:30] <mrak> TheSkorm: thy to file on your .pub file ... what tell u about that file
[01:30] <erUSUL> !ops | garethb
[01:30] <ubotu> garethb: Help! Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti, mneptok or Pici
[01:30] <Hobbsee> erUSUL: any chance you could pastebin the backscroll?
[01:30] <TheSkorm> mrak: thy u are not words and your missing a ?
[01:30] <erUSUL> Hobbsee:  Muelli> Fused: try dd if=/dev/null of=/dev/hda
[01:31] <Muelli> no garethb. Not at all :) Feel free to ask _good_ questions. Don't follow the examples of Fused or TheSkorm.
[01:31] <overclucker> fused about that virus, sudo apt-get remove virus
[01:31] <TheSkorm> What type of MS Windows support is this
[01:31] <mrak> TheSkorm: s/thy/try
[01:31] <mrak> ;)
[01:31] <erUSUL> Hobbsee: garethb advised total destruction to Fuse too
[01:31] <garethb> whats that about a ban?
[01:31] <TheSkorm> doesn't open
[01:31] <TheSkorm> could find an appilcation
[01:31] <Hobbsee> garethb: (sorry, got hte ops call wrong)
[01:31] <Ady> hey guys, i need help regarding compiz fusion. can anyone tell how do i reset it ??? on startup (compiz --replace), the screen reduces its size to 1/4th of the monitor... what do i do ??
[01:31] <garethb> how have I advised total destruction :-p
[01:32] <erUSUL> Hobbsee: o no_! my bad missinterpreted the msg sorry
[01:32] <DjViper> TheSkorm: ubuntu is not an MS product
[01:32] <garethb> id love to know how
[01:32] <garethb> :-d
[01:32] <TheSkorm> DjViper: But it came on my dell
[01:32] <Fused> DjViper: I downloaded it from windows marketplace!
[01:32] <erUSUL> garethb: i missread the msg sorry
[01:32] <DjViper> TheSkorm: so?
[01:32] <TheSkorm> their like, here have ubuntu its cheap doze.
[01:32] <Fused> DjViper: it's gotta be ms
[01:32] <Pici> !windows
[01:32] <garethb> dont worry guys it was funny did you think i was trying to wreck this thing?
[01:32] <ubotu> For help with Microsoft Windows, please visit ##windows or your nearest mental health institute.    But "deletion" does not mean that it's really deleted most of the time. It's just freed. The data itself still lies on the harddisk.
[01:39] <TheSkorm> Fix file permissions the easy way sudo chmod -R 000 /
[01:39] <mrak> TheSkorm: what about config of shortcuts ?
[01:39] <XiXaQ> TheSkorm, free is an application that tells you about your memory usage. It's not a gui application, so you won't see anything at all.
[01:39] <Hobbsee> please *dont* do that
[01:39] <garethb> but surely if you delete a file then it is going to mess up an OS
[01:39] <garethb> even if it can later be retrieved?
[01:39] <Muelli> garethb: most likely, yes.
[01:39] <Shapeshifter> Hi. My update-manager seems to be "broken". For the last 3 weeks I always get the message that there are updates and this package of compiz-core should be updated. I'm already on a much newer version then the one stated in there, and if I update it just doesn't update this package. I tried autclean, purge, purge everything of compiz and reinstall it.... doesn't work, it still comes back as soon as I reinstall compiz. http://img237
[01:40] <garethb> so not a great idea?
[01:40] <XiXaQ> garethb, no, not surely. A normal user cannot delete a vital file.
[01:40] <Hobbsee> garethb: no, not a good idea.
[01:40] <garethb> so it depends whether you are logged in as root but isnt that what SU does anyway?
[01:40] <Muelli> Shapeshifter: the image link got lost. Please resend it :)
[01:41] <garethb> even if you are not logged in as root?
[01:41] <Hobbsee> garethb: effectively
[01:41] <Shapeshifter> Muelli: got lost?? http://img237.imageshack.us/img237/7818/screenshotupdatemanagercn4.png
[01:41] <garethb> so what was that command above
[01:41] <Muelli> Shapeshifter: yes. At least I couldn't see the link :)
[01:41] <garethb> it looked to me like a way to delete the whole system
[01:41] <garethb> it denied it anyway
[01:41] <Shapeshifter> Muelli: now you can? Link: http://img237.imageshack.us/img237/7818/screenshotupdatemanagercn4.png
[01:41] <DaffyDuck_> My sister has an USB wireless ethernet "card". The zd1211 driver seems to identify the device, and registers a wlan0. But it doesn't work. So I built a rt73.ko driver for an older kernel, and now I'm trying to build it again for ubuntu 7.04, but I can't seem to find out how to unregister the zd1211 and register the rt73.ko. Any hints?
[01:42] <Muelli> yes Shapeshifter. I can. Hang on :)
[01:42] <shiznit> hi
[01:42] <mrak> Shapeshifter: try u upgrade via sudo apt-get ?
[01:42] <DaffyDuck_> Oh, the rt73.ko does work.
[01:42] <Shapeshifter> mrak: yes I did
[01:42] <DaffyDuck_> I tried "modprobe -r zd1211rw", which doesn't return an error, but it doesn't seem to remove the driver.
[01:43] <Muelli> DaffyDuck_: you could try to "rmmod -f "
[01:43] <overclucker> garethb: rm, with options r is recursive, and f forced
[01:43] <DaffyDuck_> Muelli: Thanks. Will that make sure it won't be loaded on next boot, too?
[01:43] <garethb> Overclucker what are the differences?
[01:43] <overclucker> garethb: garethb man rm
[01:44] <mario> hola
[01:44] <garethb> thats a but like hard work :p
[01:44] <Muelli> DaffyDuck_: no. not at all. In order to make modules not to be loaded at boot time, there is /etc/modules.d/blacklist I think
[01:44] <Pici> !es | mario
[01:44] <ubotu> mario: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[01:44] <ruud> hello
[01:44] <Shapeshifter> mrak: Muelli: It doesnt matter if I update through the magaer or apt-get I'm always being asked if I want to install and in the end everything runs through but it doesn't change anything. btw I'm using amaranth's repos.
[01:44] <overclucker> well it doesn't ask you, and it removes directories recursively
[01:44] <DaffyDuck_> Muelli: Ah, that's what I figured. Thanks again.
[01:44] <mario> estoy solo probando
[01:45] <Muelli> Shapeshifter: hm. maybe there's the problem, but I don't know for sure.
[01:45] <Pici> mario: por favor escribe /j #ubuntu-es
[01:45] <cpcw> list
[01:45] <mrak> Shapeshifter: really i dont know
[01:46] <overclucker> does anyone know if rm -rf can run to completion?
[01:46] <overclucker> on / that is,
[01:46] <mrak> Shapeshifter: mayb its problem with packege
[01:46] <mrak> s/packege/package
[01:46] <stdin> overclucker: please drop it now, and don't repeat the command
[01:46] <overclucker> ok, ok
[01:46] <SilverWlf> Hi. There is a Remote Desktop Preferences in the control panel of Gnome. Is there a way i can start the vnc server for the session without being at the host?
[01:47] <overclucker> i'll try ##linux
[01:47] <Shapeshifter> mrak, Muelli: I know others using amaranths repos and they don't have this kind of problem. I'm not sure but I think the problem first showed up when I switched repos from tuxfamily to amaranth. of course now Im only using one, amaranth,. Is there a way to "clean" or "completely delete" everything related to the tuxfamily repos?
[01:50] <Muelli> Shapeshifter: Not that I know. I had that kind of problem myself long time ago. I was not able to solve it conveniently. Did you try an apt-get update? Then maybe apt-get install --reinstall compiz-foo..?
[01:51] <Shapeshifter> Muelli: I tried reinstalling, autoclean, purging and then installing...
[01:51] <Nikolas1994> Hello
[01:51] <Negra> How can I erase a directory in side home?
[01:52] <Negra> I do sudo rm -f Downloads but it wont erase it
[01:52] <Muelli> Shapeshifter: then try to comment you extra repositories. Just use the ubuntu one, apt-get update, apt-get install --reinstall compiz-foo
[01:52] <astro76> Negra, rm -r
[01:52] <astro76> Negra, no sudo
[01:52] <mechdave> Negra: rm -rv /home/the/dir/to/delete
[01:52] <Negra> ok ill try thhat
[01:53] <mechdave> Negra: also try looking at man rm
[01:53] <jrib> Shapeshifter: amaranth knows about the bug
[01:53] <Negra> that worked like a charm thank
[01:54] <d4t2ill4> hello
[01:54] <davidw> what's up with archive.ubuntu.com?
[01:54] <Shapeshifter> Muelli: compiz-fusion is now available through official repos?
[01:54] <Shapeshifter> jrib: ah k, so it might be fixed eventually
[01:54] <d4t2ill4> what can I use to play AVI/MKV files with sub titles?
[01:54] <p3t3> i have problem that my onboard soundcard with VIA KT133 chipset didnt detect on installation, any tips how to fix it ?
[01:55] <astro76> d4t2ill4, VLC
[01:55] <ikonia> Shapeshifter compiz-fusion is only part of gusty at the moment
[01:55] <danar> can someone help me with this? i keep getting this error from fsck: http://pastebin.com/d4b3c41eb
[01:55] <Shapeshifter> ikonia: i thought so
[01:56] <ikonia> danar thats not an error
[01:56] <trogdor> when ever I do apt-get anything I get stuck on us.archive.ubuntu.com even though I can ping it and everything else
[01:56] <ikonia> danar fsck -y /dev/sdb1
[01:56] <ikonia> danar: see how you get on
[01:56] <Pici> trogdor: seems to be having problems at the moment.
[01:56] <ikonia> trogdor you can try using another mirror, others are ok
[01:57] <trogdor> Pici: oh so its nothing on my end?
[01:57] <Shapeshifter> Pici: same for me with security.ubuntu.com.
[01:57] <danar> ikonia: sounds like an error... what does it mean then?
[01:57] <Pici> trogdor: Correct, its not just you.
[01:57] <ikonia> danar it got an inconsistant byte check with what it was expecting
[01:57] <ikonia> danar I also don't like checking non-native file systems under linux
[01:58] <ikonia> but thats only a personal thing
[01:58] <danar> ikonia: it's all i got, and i just got the same message
[01:58] <trogdor> Pici: was ubuntu in news/advertisement recently? perhaps just load of traffic
[01:58] <ikonia> danar what do you mean, its all you got ?
[01:58] <ikonia> danar why are you fscking it
[01:58] <danar> ikonia: linux is all i have
[01:58] <ikonia> danar why do you have a fat32 file system then ?
[01:59] <danar> cause i got some kind of write error on boot
[01:59] <danar> ikonia: 'cause i used to have windows a couple years ago
[01:59] <ikonia> danar what partition (mount point) is /dev/sdb
[01:59] <ikonia> danar so move the data off and then put a native linux file system on it
[01:59] <danar> ikonia: i'm on a livecd at the moment
[01:59] <Shapeshifter> Where are the apt packages being downloaded to? When apt-get upgrading it says (using .../compiz-core_1%3a0.5.2+git20070918-0ubuntu5~ppa1_i386.deb) where is that?
[01:59] <danar> ikonia: i haven't had the disk space to get rid of that partition
[01:59] <stdin> Shapeshifter: /var/cache/apt/archive
[01:59] <Negra> how can i manually remove an Azureoys <IP_ADDRESS> intallation that i manually intalled? I need to down grade it
[02:00] <Shapeshifter> stdin: k thx
[02:00] <ikonia> danar: what mount point is /dev/sdb at
[02:00] <Negra> i mean azureus
[02:00] <ikonia> danar: where do you normally mount it
[02:00] <Pici> Negra: how did you install it?
[02:00] <danar> ikonia: when i'm booted from the HD, as opposed to the livecd?
[02:00] <ikonia> danar yes
[02:00] <Negra> yes but manually no repo
[02:00] <danar> ikonia: /mnt/hdb1
[02:01] <ikonia> danar ok - so that shouldn't stop you system booting, so you may as well boot into ubuntu
[02:01] <stdin> Negra: if you installed a .deb, then you can remove it from synaptic or apt-get
[02:01] <drez> is it me or are the ubuntu fonts so big, i already set the to 9
[02:01] <ikonia> rather than work from a livecd
[02:01] <trogdor> drez: you can turn them down some or use another font
[02:02] <KenSentMe> Is there an easy tool to save a wmv stream on my system?
[02:02] <danar> ikonia: i got some kind of write error trying to aptitude update. i thought it was cause i ran out of space, so i freed some, but that wasn't it. so i booted to the livecd and get fsck errors
[02:02] <danar> ikonia: X did come up though
[02:02] <drez> trogdor: ok
[02:02] <Negra> it was no deb it was a tar
[02:03] <drez> was already going to do that
[02:03] <mrak> can anyone tell me how can i read file .pda ?
[02:03] <ikonia> danar 1.) aptitude is nothing to do with /mnt/sdb - so forget that
[02:03] <danar> ikonia: but i went to a virtual terminal without logging in to X, and i still got write errors
[02:03] <ikonia> danar 2.) mount your ubuntu disks now in the livecd and see what your disk space is like
[02:03] <jrib> KenSentMe: mimms if it uses the mms protocol or mplayer -dumpstream
[02:03] <KenSentMe> jrib, ok, thanks
[02:03] <danar> ikonia: i got similar errors when loading the livecd
[02:03] <trogdor> drez: do it... do it nOW
[02:03] <ikonia> danar your not making any sense
[02:03] <trogdor> drez: :P
[02:04] <danar> ikonia: ~700Mb
[02:04] <Nikolas1994> Some help please: i've download a game and i want now to run it but when i cd to it's directory and trying to run it through terminal it says directory not found
[02:04] <danar> ikonia: when i booted off the livecd it complained about buffer i/o
[02:05] <jrib> Nikolas1994: what game?
[02:05] <Nikolas1994> It's called Tibia
[02:05] <Ghismo> g' day guys
[02:05] <Nikolas1994> And i trust it lol,cause i play 2 years this game
[02:05] <Nikolas1994> it's a MMORPG
[02:05] <Ghismo> could anyone tell me where i can find the Cedega deb package form my feisty fawn
[02:05] <stdin> !cedega
[02:05] <ubotu> cedega is a project based on WINE, aimed at running Windows games on Linux. For more info, see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/Cedega
[02:06] <ikonia> danar thats either a.) your chipset is a problem b.) your disk is having a hardware issue
[02:06] <danar> ikonia: i'm afraid it might be dying :(
[02:07] <ikonia> sounds possible
[02:07] <Menth> Ghismo, for cedega you either need to pay $5 a month to use it or install the cvs version i recommend wine ;)
[02:07] <danar> ikonia: but you're suggesting the CPU might be a problem?
[02:07] <Ghismo> thanks menth
[02:07] <ikonia> danar no, I said your chipset, eg: the chipset that controls your hardware, not cpu
[02:07] <jrib> Nikolas1994: pastebin the command and the error as well as the output of 'ls'
[02:07] <Ghismo> but i wish to run world of warcraft and it seems that cedega is the best emu at the moment
[02:07] <danar> ikonia: the hd controller
[02:07] <SpComb> Nikolas1994: pastebin the terminal commands/output
[02:08] <Nikolas1994> kk
[02:08] <ikonia> danar correct
[02:08] <Nikolas1994> bash: ./Tibia: No such file or directory
[02:08] <ikonia> Nikolas1994: is that file in the same directory and executable
[02:08] <danar> ikonia: so any drive i put in there would have the same problem?
[02:08] <Nikolas1994> Patch  Showerror  Tibia  Tibia.dat  Tibia.pic  Tibia.spr  Tibia.xpm
[02:08] <Nikolas1994> Yes it is
[02:08] <Menth> Ghismo, then you could try this link http://www.linux-gamers.net/modules/wiwimod/index.php?page=HOWTO%20Cedega%20CVS
[02:08] <Menth> and good luck
[02:08] <Ghismo> thanks menth
[02:08] <Ghismo> ;-)
[02:09] <tone3721> i cant seem to get my keyboard configured in the installation
[02:09] <ikonia> danar: no, if your hard disk conrtoller is incompatible you'll always have problem, so its more likley your hard disk is dying
[02:09] <jrib> !pastebin | Nikolas1994
[02:09] <ubotu> Nikolas1994: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[02:09] <tone3721> doesnt seem to be on the list
[02:09] <GuHHH>  i have a module for a sound card... (that there isnt on the kernel), so i have to recompile the kernel with support for this module... how can i do this?
[02:10] <Nikolas1994> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/39630/
[02:10] <danar> ikonia: i guess it's my fault. it wasn't designed for heavy use, which i've been giving it. i should be thankful it's held up this long i suppose. thanks
[02:10] <tone3721> anyone know?
[02:11] <ikonia> tone3721 what is the problem
[02:11] <tone3721> it works until i make a selection from the list
[02:11] <tone3721> my keyboard
[02:11] <tone3721> on install
[02:11] <jrib> Nikolas1994: and 'ls -l'
[02:11] <tone3721> mine doesnt seem to be on the list
[02:11] <ikonia> tone3721 what doesn't work ?
[02:12] <tone3721> the arrow keys
[02:12] <ikonia> tone3721 when don't they work  ?
[02:12] <Nikolas1994> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/39631/
[02:12] <Negra> how can i remove azureus that i manually intalled from a tar?
[02:12] <tone3721> right after i try to choose a keyboard from the list on install
[02:12] <ikonia> Negra rm each file manually or hope it had an uninstall routine in the make file
[02:12] <tone3721> they work fine before that
[02:12] <tone3721> even in the live cd
[02:13] <ikonia> tone3721 thats unusual, I wonder if your chosing the right keyboard (I don't know if its loaded dynamic)
[02:13] <tone3721> my specific board isnt on the list
[02:13] <Pici> Negra: Do you still have the tar?
[02:13] <rabbitwee1> how do you go into console mode? I need to disable x-server
[02:13] <tone3721> ive chosen the ones that are closest to it on the list most of em anyway
[02:14] <tone3721> kills arrows right after every time
[02:14] <tone3721> then i cant select up or down on install menu
[02:14] <jrib> Nikolas1994: 'L' not 'I'
[02:14] <Nikolas1994> it's l
[02:14] <Pici> Nikolas1994: lowercase l
[02:14] <kahrytan> rabbitwee1, why would you want to kill x-server. its your friend
[02:14] <Nikolas1994> ls -s
[02:14] <Nikolas1994> this is what i did
[02:15] <mechdave> rabbitwee1: ctrl + alt + F1
[02:15] <tone3721> anybody any ideas im using a logitech mediaboard?
[02:15] <Pici> Nikolas1994: pastebin the output of ls -l
[02:15] <Nikolas1994> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/39631/
[02:15] <Nikolas1994> wait
[02:15] <Nikolas1994> wrong
[02:15] <user___> Hi, I have a question: To type a ^, I have to press the ^ key twice, because otherwise I get accents, like ^ and e is . In Debian I had to press the Compose key (Menu key) to get this behaviour: "Menu" + ^ + e = . IS there any way to make Ubuntu behave like that?
[02:16] <Nikolas1994> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/39632/
[02:16] <Nikolas1994> this
[02:16] <mnuaimat> hi everybody, i have `mv`d the two files /etc/fstab and /etc/mtab , now after i login in single mode, i cant copy them back to thier propper location, the error message is "read only file system"
[02:16] <ikonia> mnuaimat yup
[02:16] <Muelli> user___: There probably is. Check System -> Settings -> Keyboard
[02:16] <mnuaimat> what shall i do ?
[02:16] <ikonia> mnuaimat you've moved them so the disks are moounted read only
[02:16] <autodidakt> hello, i got beryl but now every window opens in the backround. i am using ubuntu faisty and if i use gnome windows manager again every new window just comes up at the front as desired <-- sry i know this is not beryl support but maybe s1 has an idea cause i got no answer in [] beryl yet :)
[02:17] <mnuaimat> ikonia: yeah
[02:17] <ikonia> mnuaimat boot from the livecd, mount your ubuntu file systems manually and put the file's back
[02:17] <user___> I didn't find a suitable option. I tried "Layout Options" -> "Compose key position", but it didn't work as expected
[02:17] <danar> ikonia: i have one more issue. in nautilus, it says i have ~700Mb free, but gparted says i have 8Gb free...
[02:17] <tone3721> man.....
[02:18] <mnuaimat> ikonia: now after i reboot i can never copy them back to /etc , because even the '/' is not mounted
[02:18] <fevel> hello
[02:18] <mnuaimat> ikonia: thank yoooooooooooooooooooooooooou
[02:18] <mnuaimat> ikonia: i will try it
[02:18] <ikonia> danar parted probably means you have 8gb on the disk free while nautaulis means 700 meg on the file system
[02:18] <ikonia> mnuaimat no problem
[02:18] <mnuaimat> thank you ikonia, thank you open source people , thank you ubuntu,  i love you all
[02:18] <mnuaimat> bye
[02:19] <fevel> openoffice impress dowsnt let me change the layout of my slides. nothing happens when I click on "change layout". Can someone help me fix this issue?
[02:19] <danar> ikonia: it says /dev/sda1 has 8GB free
[02:19] <fevel> ubuntu 7.04
[02:19] <tone3721> man this is frustrating it worked fine on the live disk
[02:19] <Woet> How do you show all users via terminal?
[02:19] <ikonia> danar thats very unusual
[02:19] <user___> Muelli: Do you have an idea what else i could try?
[02:20] <JediMaster> hi all, I'm trying to format an external USB hdd and mkfs.ext3 is saying: /dev/sdg1 is apparently in use by the system; will not make a filesystem here!
[02:20] <danar> ikonia: yeh, i noticed it once before, but forgot
[02:20] <mechdave> Woet: users
[02:20] <JediMaster> I've checked and it's not mounted, can't figure out why it's having problems
[02:20] <jrib> Nikolas1994: does 'file Tibia' output anything?
[02:20] <danar> ikonia: i'm sure there's something wrong, but i'm not sure what to do
[02:20] <Nikolas1994> What do you mean?
[02:20] <danar> ikonia: fsck isn't helping
[02:20] <ikonia> danar stop referencing fsck
[02:21] <danar> ikonia: uh... just saying it didn't help. i don't know what else to use
[02:21] <ikonia> danar what else for what ?
[02:21] <danar> ikonia: i know, my disk is prolly dying, so it wouldn't help if that's the prob
[02:21] <jrib> Nikolas1994: do the command:  file Tibia
[02:21] <danar> ikonia: what else fixes file system & data errors on disks
[02:22] <Nikolas1994> Tibia: ELF 32-bit LSB executable, Intel 80386, version 1 (SYSV), for GNU/Linux 2.6.9, dynamically linked (uses shared libs), stripped
[02:22] <ikonia> danar it sounds like your hard disk is dead from what you where saying earlier
[02:22] <neopsych2> is there no way to cut/paste in an ftp client gui for linux???
[02:22] <ikonia> neopsych2 same as every other app
[02:22] <neopsych2> im using filezilla .. but it doesnt have that feature... gftp also doesnt .. is there a good gui with cut/paste?
[02:22] <Johncub> can anyone point me toward an application that will create dvd's?  Not rip or copy, but to create new dvd's that will work on home dvd video players.
[02:22] <Muelli> user___: There are several options. You could edit xorg.conf, use xmodmap, setxkbmap or the GNOME settings.
[02:22] <jrib> neopsych2: nautilus  for example
[02:22] <danar> ikonia: yeh, but it's still mostly functional. i'd like to try fixing this 8Gb issue if i can until i can replace the drive
[02:23] <ikonia> neopsych2 they can all cut an paste, middle mouse button for paste
[02:23] <neopsych2> ikonia Core FTP for windows allows cut paste in ftp directories
[02:23] <ikonia> danar I think your reading it wrong - or its beyond repair
[02:23] <ikonia> neopsych2 you can do that with drag and drop in gftp
[02:23] <neopsych2> when i right click.. there is no cut/paste optoin?
[02:23] <neopsych2> oh
[02:23] <ikonia> neopsych2 unix doesn't work like that
[02:23] <danar> ikonia: i'm pretty sure i'm reading it right. i figured it was that the system reserves some space
[02:23] <neopsych2> can i copy paste?
[02:24] <User____> could anyone tell me if I have a dedicated partition to /home... how many gb i need on the root partition to make it run smothly?
[02:24] <ikonia> danar you figured wrong, no reserved space, your disk is borked from what your saying
[02:24] <ikonia> User____ well, people seem to take up 4gb with apps, so anything above that seems reasonable for root, but you can do it smaller
[02:24] <neopsych2> can i copy a file into anew directory on ftp ?
[02:24] <danar> ikonia: erm, actually, this is a different drive *smacks forehead*
[02:24] <neopsych2> from same ftp
[02:25] <danar> ikonia: the 2nd drive is the fat32 one, which you were saying is dead
[02:25] <ikonia> danar check it with sudo fdisk -l /dev/sda
[02:25] <Engineer> hi all
[02:25] <leladia> pls how do i use grep to search for a space?
[02:25] <ikonia> danar stick it in a pastebin
[02:25] <User____> lol i thought that apps will go to home too :P... im such a noob i guess
[02:25] <jrib> leladia: grep ' '
[02:25] <ikonia> leladia you don't use grep to search for space
[02:25] <Pici> leladia: grep " " filename
[02:25] <JediMaster> ok never mind, I used cfdisk, deleted the partition, disconnected and reconnected the drive and created the partition, then I can forma it
[02:25] <JediMaster> +t
[02:25] <ikonia> User____ no - no apps to home
[02:25] <ikonia> Pici well spotted, I read that as "find some space"
[02:25] <Pici> ikonia: ah :)
[02:26] <danar> ikonia: http://pastebin.com/d49bd2735
[02:26] <User____> so home is exclusive to docs and configs of the users?
[02:26] <ikonia> Pici: nice update on the topic, thanks
[02:26] <ikonia> User____ user space
[02:26] <darkchr0n0s> anyone who can help me adjust LCD brightness on a Sony Vaio(VGN-CR14GN), the Fn keys don't work (i have been asking this Q from past 5 days :( )
[02:27] <Nikolas1994> jrib: there?
[02:27] <User____> ok ty very much for your help i guess ill give it 10 gbs to root and the other 90gb to home
[02:27] <user___> Muelli: I'm sorry, I can't find the option in "keyboard preferences"
[02:27] <jrib> Nikolas1994: yes
[02:27] <Nikolas1994> Tibia: ELF 32-bit LSB executable, Intel 80386, version 1 (SYSV), for GNU/Linux 2.6.9, dynamically linked (uses shared libs), stripped
[02:27] <Versus> Hi! I'm trying to install a desktop edition of ubuntu 7.04 on my P4 box. After pressing "Install with driver update CD" the system hangs in some 20-30 seconds. Any suggestions?
[02:27] <FliptBit> darkchr0n0s maybe look in the BIOS
[02:27] <ikonia> danar now mount /dev/sda1 and show me the output of "df -h"
[02:27] <Nikolas1994> jrib: here what i got by file Tibia
[02:27] <Muelli> user___: you have to select a different kyeboard layout.
[02:27] <darkchr0n0s> FliptBit : look in bios for ?
[02:27] <FliptBit>  ... but why oh why does my screen go dark after 10 minutes?  this should be simple but ... ?
[02:28] <firefoxman> Are all files in /etc/cron.daily read when cron starts?
[02:28] <FliptBit> darkchr0n0s - look for LCD brightness --- my Dell has those settings in the bios
[02:28] <ikonia> firefoxman they are read real time
[02:28] <leladia> pls how do i use grep to filter out files in my directory that start with a dot?
[02:28] <IdleOne> FliptBit: it would be in the screensaver settings where you set that option
[02:28] <JediMaster> is it possible to find out what speed a usb device is connected at? (e.g. usb 1 or 2?)
[02:29] <jrib> Nikolas1994: what if you do 'hash -r' and try './Tibia' again?
[02:29] <ikonia> leladia: that start with a .
[02:29] <danar> ikonia: http://pastebin.com/d2fbcb2b8
[02:29] <ikonia> leladia: ls won't show any files starting with a .
[02:29] <Nikolas1994> jrib: http://www.worldweather.org/034/c00129.htm
[02:29] <Nikolas1994> oops
[02:29] <JediMaster> ikonia: ls -al
[02:29] <Nikolas1994> jrib: bash: ./Tibia: No such file or directory
[02:29] <ikonia> JediMaster he didn't say he was using that
[02:29] <FliptBit> IdleOne -- yeah, i checked screen saver, power management, and EVEN turned off acpid and apmd services!!!
[02:29] <ikonia> Nikolas1994 show me ls -la Tibia
[02:29] <leladia>  ikonia: sorry i mean files that start with a dot (hidden files)
[02:29] <vlt> Hello. Yesterday I finally answered "yes" to adept-manager's question if I wanted to upgrade (from Edgy) to Feisty. The ~800 MB of updated were downloaded successfully and adpet began to configure the packages. After having answered two or three debconf questions I left and returned after 2 hours finding the machine frozen. GRUB menu.lst hasn't changed but the old sytem can't boot anymore. Booting from a live cd shows me the new kernel in /boot and _two_ initrd f
[02:29] <ikonia> danar you have 700 meg free
[02:29] <JediMaster> oops, wrong person, leladia: ls -al =)
[02:30] <Nikolas1994> -rwxrwxr-x 1 nikolasandreou nikolasandreou 5175944 2007-06-26 13:36 Tibia
[02:30] <leladia> ikonia: other files that are not hidden are not displayed
[02:30] <ikonia> leladia example ?
[02:30] <Johncub> FlipBit:  did you check the bios?
[02:30] <danar> ikonia: so it says. but why does gparted say i have 8Gb unused
[02:30] <tone3721> can anyone help?
[02:30] <ikonia> danar I think your not reading it correct, it may mean 8gb of the extended partition is free / unallocated
[02:30] <textchimp> hi, my ubuntu system isn't booting anymore... it seems like Grub isn't installed anymore... but if i boot off the CD i can still mount my hard disk's root partition
[02:31] <FliptBit> Johncub -- yeah, the power management settings in bios are good to go also.
[02:31] <ikonia> 13:49 < tone3721> can anyone help?
[02:31] <ikonia> oops
[02:31] <ikonia> tone3721 what is the problem
[02:31] <danar> ikonia: and it's not unpartitioned space either. there's a bar at the top that shows grey for unpartitioned space. there's none
[02:31] <leladia>  ikonia: i want to display the hidden files in my current directory without displaying other files (just the hidden ones)
[02:31] <FliptBit> I looked through blogs online and it seems other people have this issue too .... but no known solution as of yet
[02:31] <jrib> Nikolas1994: then I don't know
[02:31] <Johncub> FlipBit:  wish I could help more, that's all I could think of
[02:31] <JediMaster> textchimp: try: grub-install
[02:31] <danar> ikonia: hrm, one sec
[02:31] <Nikolas1994> jrib: huh? Do you think it might be my ubuntu's error?
[02:31] <ikonia> leladia there should be no hidden files that don't start with a dot
[02:31] <FliptBit> very frustrating when watching movies - and I want to image my disk but want to fix this first so its perfect :)
[02:31] <danar> ikonia: no, it says for /dev/sda1
[02:32] <IdleOne> FliptBit: report a bug on launchpad . give as much detail as possible.
[02:32] <Johncub> FlipBit:  understood, that would be a pain
[02:32] <ikonia> danar can you take a screen shot please
[02:32] <leladia>  ikonia: i know and i don't want those displayed in the result
[02:32] <FliptBit> IdleOne - thanx -- will do
[02:32] <jrib> Nikolas1994: probably not because ./Tibia works fine here
[02:32] <ikonia> leladia if you do ls it will show ALL files that don't start with a .
[02:32] <textchimp> JediMaster: from the liveCD?
[02:32] <Nikolas1994> jrib can you tell me step by step what you did?
[02:33] <danar> ikonia: know a good place to put it?
[02:33] <Nikolas1994> and where did you find it?
[02:33] <ikonia> danar image shack
[02:33] <JediMaster> JediMaster: yeah, it *should* be on there
[02:33] <Johncub> dvd burning question:  does anyone know of a free or non-free dvd authoring program to create dvd's from home movies that works with Dapper?
[02:33] <JediMaster> er what, lol
[02:33] <leladia>  ikonia: and...?
[02:33] <shiznit> is there a ventrilo clone for linux?
[02:33] <JediMaster> textchimp: yes, it should be on there =)
[02:33] <ikonia> leladia thats what you want - all files not starting with a .
[02:33] <ISOcrates> hey all.  i'm trying to install some stuff on gutsy but http://us.archive.ubuntu.com isn't responding at all.  can i use another server?
[02:33] <leladia>  ikonia: no, i want all files that start with a dot
[02:33] <stdin> !topic | ISOcrates
[02:33] <ikonia> ISOcrates: ubuntu+1 for gusty support but all check the topic
[02:33] <danar> ikonia: http://img248.imageshack.us/img248/1510/screenshotdevsdagpartedul4.png
[02:34] <ISOcrates> my b.  thanks
[02:34] <ubotu> ISOcrates: Please read the channel topic whenever you enter, as it contains important information. To view it at any time after joining, simply type /topic
[02:34] <jrib> Nikolas1994: downloaded file, tar xf FILE, cd Tibia, ./Tibia
[02:34] <ikonia> leladia ooh you just want to see all the files that start with a .
[02:34] <ISOcrates> yeah its been a while since ive been on irc.  sorry, thanks
[02:34] <JediMaster> ISOcrates: yes, I'm using gb.archive.ubuntu.com
[02:34] <leladia>  ikonia: yeah... :)
[02:34] <ikonia> danar loading
[02:34] <ISOcrates> thanks Jedi
[02:34] <ikonia> ls -la .*
[02:34] <Nikolas1994> jrib: i'm pm you =)
[02:35] <jrib> Nikolas1994: please use #ubuntu
[02:35] <danar> ikonia: i think they degraded the quality a bit
[02:35] <ikonia> danar: thats the extended partition
[02:35] <leladia> ikonia: let me try that
[02:35] <leladia> thanks
[02:35] <darkchr0n0s>  anyone who can help me adjust LCD brightness on a Sony Vaio laptop(VGN-CR14GN), the Fn keys don't work (i have been asking this Q from past 5 days :( )
[02:35] <Nikolas1994> jrib: where did you extracted it?
[02:35] <rabbitweed> I've been linuxing for over 12 hours now. one more try before I go to sleep:D how do I disable x-server? I restarted using alt-ctrl-f1 but appareantly x-server was till running. any idea
[02:35] <danar> ikonia: extended is underneath...
[02:36] <jrib> Nikolas1994: yes, in Desktop
[02:36] <ikonia> danar yes, and it has no sizes so its made up of the sda1
[02:36] <LjL> rabbitweed: sudo invoke-rc.d gdm stop
[02:36] <rabbitweed> muchos gracias
[02:36] <rabbitweed> wish me luck
[02:36] <danar> ikonia: extended is /dev/sda2...
[02:37] <lonran> it is psible to use a mac.com account to chat from any linux chat client?
[02:37] <leladia>  ikonia: its not working :(
[02:37] <ikonia> danar I don't hink your getting it
[02:37] <leladia> it is listing files that i don't need to see
[02:37] <ikonia> danar you've assigned a partition of 139 GIG -
[02:37] <ikonia> danar that means your file system of 139gig has 700 meg free
[02:37] <ikonia> danar but your disk has 8 gig unassigned
[02:37] <ikonia> danar strike that , I'm wrong
[02:38] <darkchr0n0s> anyone who can help me adjust LCD brightness on a Sony Vaio laptop(VGN-CR14GN), the Fn keys don't work (i have been asking this Q from past 5 days :( )
[02:38] <danar> ikonia: if that were true i'd have room to make a new partition
[02:38] <ikonia> danar I'm wrong - ignore that, I was reading it wrong
[02:38] <LadyNikon> darkchr0n0s: did you try posting in the forums?
[02:38] <riotkittie> darkchr0n0s: have you looked on the forums?
[02:38] <mike1o> I can load the ipw3945 driver but when I type iwconfig I can see no wireless extensions...
[02:38] <LadyNikon> riotkittie: :p
[02:39] <riotkittie> LadyNikon: hehe
[02:39] <darkchr0n0s> riotkittie , LadyNikon , i have searched onto forums.. haven't posted
[02:39] <LadyNikon> darkchr0n0s: i would post your question there as well
[02:39] <LadyNikon> loads more people use the forums over irc
[02:39] <danar> ikonia: are you having trouble reading the screenshot on imgshack? 'cause i am
[02:39] <overclucker> what version of coreutils does 7.04 use?
[02:40] <ikonia> danar it keeps changing size / scrolling, so it is a but of a struggle
[02:40] <ikonia> overclucker look for your self
[02:40] <ikonia> danar it ooks like your right and the actual disk size being reported is less than is usable
[02:40] <danar> ikonia: oh, i see. it was shrunk by firefox... i'm used to having that turned off, so didn't realize
[02:40] <shiznit> ikonia is the mvp of this channel
[02:40] <ikonia> shiznit mvp ?
[02:40] <overclucker> ikonia: i killed ubuntu with rm -rf / and am wondering why it didn't on another didtro
[02:40] <overclucker> distro
[02:40] <shiznit> most valuable player
[02:41] <danar> ikonia: so what does that mean?
[02:41] <tone3721> i guess ill have to use another distro if no one can help me
[02:41] <danar> ikonia: bad sectors? :(
[02:41] <shiznit> you dont follow sports
[02:41] <ikonia> overclucker depends what you mean and how it was deleted
[02:41] <ikonia> danar rounding errors perhaps ?
[02:41] <riotkittie> tone3721: what do you need help with?
[02:41] <erUSUL> overclucker: in any linux system if you do rm -rf as root you will kill your system
[02:41] <ikonia> danar I'm just guessing as fdisk seems ok
[02:41] <jrib> !info coreutils > overclucker
[02:41] <tone3721> my install
[02:41] <danar> ikonia: 8Gb of 'rounding errors'? this is supposed to be a 160Gb disk
[02:41] <erUSUL> overclucker: or if you do it as a user will erase all your data so it is the same
[02:41] <andy101> Does anyone know if there is a command to restart NetworkManager in Ubuntu Fiesty?
[02:41] <tone3721> keyboard acts funny
[02:41] <ikonia> danar yeah, but its rporting the disk as 147 gig -
[02:41] <ikonia> danar not 160
[02:42] <riotkittie> andy: networkmanager
[02:42] <overclucker> thanks jrib
[02:42] <danar> ikonia: yeh, i figured it was 'cause HD manufacturers like to use the GB/GiB thing
[02:42] <tone3721> when i run the live cd keyboard works great
[02:42] <ikonia> danar exactly
[02:42] <riotkittie> if thats not it, network<tab>
[02:42] <tone3721> it works fine up until i have to sleect ketboard from list on alternate install
[02:42] <genii> ikonia: Some bioses can't see 160Gb
[02:42] <danar> ikonia: but i don't see why gparted is saying i have 8GiB free...
[02:42] <ikonia> genii not in this case
[02:42] <tone3721> then the arrows dont work
[02:43] <tone3721> cant finish install
[02:43] <user___> Muelli: Thanks. I now use the "German eliminate dead keys" layout, with the compose key set to the menu key! Thank a lot!
[02:43] <user___> exit
[02:43] <user___> quit
[02:43] <ikonia> danar I think its the differece in how the disk announces itself (sectors heads) and whats really available, although I've never seen that before
[02:43] <tone3721> my keyboard doesnt seem do be on the list
[02:43] <danar> genii: this is the hd that came with the system
[02:43] <tone3721> anybody?
[02:43] <ikonia> danar if you look the "missing" 8 gig would make it 160 gig as it should be
[02:43] <riotkittie> how bizarre. what kind of keyboard? are you using some terribly abnormal keymap? like, say, klingon?
[02:43] <overclucker> ok, so here's the deal, i first tried rm -rf on a lfs system, and it gave me a message canot remove '/ ' so i tried it on ubuntu7.04 and it did remove /
[02:43] <shiznit> omg i love bittyrant
[02:44] <riotkittie> can you not tab between fields and hit enter?
[02:44] <textchimp> JediMaster: should i be running grub-install on something like /dev/sda3 as the install device?
[02:44] <genii> danar: Perhaps there is a locked-out partition, they do that on some systems where they hide the emergency setup things for windows. compaq especially does this
[02:44] <ikonia> overclucker depends whats running from where
[02:44] <danar> shiznit: have you tried deluge?
[02:44] <ikonia>         like /dev/sda3 as the install device?
[02:44] <ikonia> 14:02 < genii> danar: Perhaps there is a locked-out partition, they do that on
[02:44] <shiznit> negative
[02:44] <ikonia> oops
[02:44] <ikonia> oopsorry
[02:44] <illogic-al> hp too
[02:44] <danar> genii: i got the system without windows
[02:44] <ikonia> genii nah take a look http://img248.imageshack.us/img248/1510/screenshotdevsdagpartedul4.png
[02:44] <genii> Ok looking
[02:45] <stdin> !tab | ikonia, you look like you need it
[02:45] <ubotu> ikonia, you look like you need it: You can use <tab> for autocompletion of nicknames in IRC, as well as for completion of filenames and programs on the command line.
[02:45] <overclucker> the reason is that 7.04 uses coreutils 5.97-5.2ubuntu3 and lfs uses coreutils 6.9, so there is a safeguard in 6.9 that 5.9 doesn't have
[02:45] <ikonia> stdin nah, its lag on my damn laptop thats causing pain
[02:45] <stdin> ikonia: you mean laaaaaaaaaag :)
[02:46] <ikonia> overclucker: where did it say there is a safeguard ?
[02:46] <grirgz> hi
[02:46] <overclucker> coreutils 6.9
[02:46] <ikonia> overclucker where does it say that
[02:46] <textchimp> can anyone help with grub-install?
[02:46] <stefg> I uninstalled some unwanted lang-support files (so the language support meta-package went away, too) No apt thinks, that *all* application specific lang-support files are unwanted dependencies and would remove them when i apt-get autoremove. Is there a way to 'reset' apts autoremove tracking ? Google turns up nothing , and i don't want to loose the ability to use autoremove later, because it...
[02:46] <stefg> ...will uninstall my language files.
[02:46] <overclucker> when i did rm -rf / on a system with coreutils 6.9 it said that
[02:47] <ikonia> overclucker where did it say there is a safeguard
[02:47] <grirgz> does someone know what mean the error "unknown date format" when i do "sudo apt-get update" ? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/39634/ (sorry, french version)
[02:47] <overclucker> ikona somewhere between coreutils 5.9 and 6.9
[02:47] <danar> stefg: erm, if you use aptitude to 'install' them, it'll mark them as wanted i believe...
[02:47] <atlfalcons866> when will gusty be released
[02:47] <Pici> atlfalcons866: ~Oct 18th
[02:47] <ikonia> overclucker answer the question, where did it say "there is a safe guard"
[02:47] <ikonia> overclucker or are you just assuming there is a safeguard
[02:48] <overclucker> ikonia: 'i' said it
[02:48] <ikonia> overclucker right - so its just your opinion
[02:48] <Pici> overclucker: I thought we were going to drop the discussion of that command in this channel?
[02:48] <d4t2ill4> Overclucker. nice nick
[02:48] <joshjosh> is the security repo down?
[02:48] <ikonia> Pici done
[02:48] <Pici> joshjosh: yes, see the topic.
[02:48] <overclucker> right, off-toppic
[02:48] <danar> that explains that
[02:48] <joshjosh> Pici, thanks.
[02:48] <stefg> danar: aptitude ... hmm. i just went to reinstall all packages that were marked as 'autoremove' in synaptic, but that didn't change anything. Will try aptitude...
[02:48] <ikonia> Pici I'm only interested as he's referncing LFS and I don't think he realised that I wrote the coreutils chapter for LFS
[02:48] <Pici> ikonia: Neat :)
[02:49] <ikonia> apologies
[02:49] <overclucker> oh, lol did i?
[02:49] <ikonia> he caught me of guard
[02:49] <ikonia> overclucker no - I did
[02:49] <danar> stefg: you don't need to reinstall, that'll redownload them
[02:49] <overclucker> nope
[02:49] <overclucker>  it's coreutil 6.9 chapter 6.16
[02:49] <danar> stefg: just tell aptitude to 'install' and it'll basically do nothing, but mark them as wanted
[02:49] <FliptBit> join #help
[02:49] <FliptBit> damnit
[02:49] <ikonia> overclucker I know - I wrote it
[02:49] <stefg> danar: i already did out of curiosity, my bandwidth is cheap enough for that :-)
[02:50] <danar> stefg: apt-get doesn't bother with it except for autoremove, but aptitude keeps track of that stuff
[02:50] <overclucker> ikonia: lol
[02:50] <overclucker> ikonia: so .. .
[02:50] <delfick> hello, does anyone know if it's possible to boot a usb (or floppy that then boots that usb) without access to the bios of a computer that doesn't have floppy as a priority before the harddrive ?? :D
[02:50] <delfick> so I can boot my liveusb at uni :D
[02:51] <overclucker> wow isn't this great
[02:51] <tone3721> well another distro it is i guess
[02:51] <danar> ikonia: so any ideas on the 8GB thing?
[02:51] <ikonia> danar stumped, what did genii say
[02:51] <qazibasit> hi
[02:51] <chris3141> Hi.
[02:51] <qazibasit> how are you friends?
[02:52] <qazibasit> hi
[02:52] <qazibasit> howz life and ubuntu going?
[02:52] <chris3141> Is there any place you can put scripts so they are executed on start of gdm
[02:52] <danar> ikonia: uh, nothing
[02:52] <vinboy> hi
[02:52] <qazibasit> hi vinboy
[02:52] <vinboy> how do I make my fonts look like fedora's?
[02:52] <danar> ikonia: said he was gonna look at the screenshot, then nothing
[02:52] <qazibasit> sorry chris no idea
[02:52] <Kopfgeldjaeger> hi
[02:53] <qazibasit> download the fonts vinboy
[02:53] <vinboy> fedora's font is smoother. maybe not as sharp
[02:53] <danar> ikonia: thanks anyway. guess i need a new system more than i thought :P
[02:53] <vinboy> qazibasit: i actualyl use the same fonts on both installations
[02:53] <overclucker> ikonia: so is there another reason that it wouldn't rm -rf / in lfs?
[02:53] <vinboy> with same settings too
[02:53] <ikonia> danar never seen that
[02:53] <danar> same
[02:53] <ikonia> overclucker: inappropriate to discuss here
[02:54] <danar> ikonia: you don't think it might be bad sectors?
[02:54] <chris3141> Any ideas?
[02:54] <ikonia> danar thats LOT of bad sectors
[02:54] <overclucker> ahh
[02:54] <overclucker>  right
[02:54] <kevinly> wrt partitions and primary versus logical?
[02:54] <ikonia> kevinly parimary you can only have 4 logical you cah have 16
[02:54] <danar> ikonia: had some strange issues with windows before... marked some bad sectors when the fs corrupted... thats when i switched to linux :P
[02:55] <genii> ikonia , danar My boss came by for a minute to talk. back now. I am suspecting the geometry mapping as possible culprit, or else (not likely) low-level formatting found that much mad physical damage
[02:55] <chris3141> Oh, I think I found it in /etc/gdm/Init/Default. Thanks anyway
[02:55] <dennda> archive.ubuntu.com down?
[02:55] <kevinly> i'm going with 4gb for winxp,60 ntfs,10gb ext3, 2gb swa  and the reset fat32
[02:55] <kevinly> which should be logical?
[02:55] <ikonia> genii I'm included to agree
[02:55] <ikonia> inclined
[02:56] <kevinly> and "root file system@ is what
[02:56] <danar> genii: if it is the geometry, how would i fix that?
[02:56] <qazibasit> i am having problem loading ubuntu
[02:56] <qazibasit> it says that there is some ACPI problem
[02:56] <kevinly> jsut looking for best practice for partitions for linux/xp dual boot
[02:56] <danar> genii: if not, what might cause so much physical damage? heat from running too long?
[02:56] <qazibasit> and IRQ allocation problem
[02:56] <genii> danar: In most bios you can set options like: map as large,comaptible,LBA or similar
[02:56] <qazibasit> any idea
[02:56] <danar> genii: it's set to lba
[02:57] <genii> danar: Most drives ship with some amount of physical damage, normally we don't notice because the amount is to teeny
[02:58] <danar> genii: well i don't remember it ever being close to the advertised 160Gb
[02:58] <genii> danar: For bios mapping i like to use Normal if that is an option, or sometimes they also have "Use Partition Table"
[02:58] <atlfalcons866> my computer lost power last night could i have lost some data
[02:58] <danar> genii: maybe it _did_ ship with 8Gb trashed :-/
[02:58] <danar> genii: i'm guessing there's nothing i can do then, except replace the drives?
[02:59] <grirgz> Does someone know what mean the error "unknown date format" when i do "sudo apt-get update" ? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/39634/ (sorry, french version)
[02:59] <ikonia> grirgz sounds like the server your getting from presents date in a difference format
[02:59] <genii> danar: Well, you may want to try experimenting a bit in the bios mapping to see if it makes any diference. try to pick something that doesn't make number of heads fall on 1024
[03:00] <grirgz> ikonia: what should i do ?
[03:00] <danar> genii: alright, i'll poke at that and see if it helps. thanks
[03:00] <elkmann> Hi! how can I teach programs using kdelibs to use firefox instead of konqueror when they load an URL?
[03:00] <chris3141> hi, it's me again. /etc/gdm/Init/Default doesn't work. Any ideas which file I have to edit to excecute something on start of gdm?
[03:00] <ikonia> grirgz never seen it, don't know
[03:01] <kadakas> will a laptop usb light work with Ubuntu out-of-the-box ?
[03:01] <hendrixski> how can I find my Mac address from Ubuntu?  the bottom of my comp is illegible?
[03:01] <atlfalcons866> my computer lost power last night could i have lost some data
[03:01] <erUSUL> hendrixski: ifconfig -a iface
[03:01] <danar> genii: hey, here's something weird...
[03:01] <chris3141> ok, i'll try /etc/gdm/Xsession ...
[03:02] <hendrixski> thanks erUSUL
[03:02] <erUSUL> atlfalcons866: never happened to me but it could be
[03:02] <qazibasit> no atlfalcons866
[03:02] <atlfalcons866> even though i used ext2
[03:02] <danar> genii: in gparted, if i click more info on it, it says the last sector is a wee bit higher number than total sectors
[03:02] <qazibasit> ubuntu is a system which supports ACPI and it never lost data in case of power failure
[03:02] <hendrixski> erUSUL, it worked :-) you rock
[03:03] <atlfalcons866> is it ext2 or ext3 that is journaled
[03:03] <erUSUL> ext3
[03:03] <genii> danar: No idea :)
[03:03] <atlfalcons866> how can i convert ext2 to ext3 then
[03:03] <danar> blargh
[03:03] <danar> well, thanks anywa
[03:03] <genii> AFK 3-4 minutes, work needs me
[03:03] <danar> y
[03:04] <erUSUL> atlfalcons866: why you used ext2 in the first place??
[03:04] <leladia> pls, do this ls -al | grep -v `ls -l` ?
[03:04] <ikonia> leladia ?
[03:04] <erUSUL> atlfalcons866: http://www.troubleshooters.com/linux/ext2toext3.htm
[03:04] <d4t2ill4> i am using an IBM laptop, and i am having problem getting the sound to work... what should i do first?
[03:04] <erUSUL> !sound | d4t2ill4
[03:04] <ubotu> d4t2ill4: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[03:04] <danar> ikonia: gparted is giving me the same error that fsck was
[03:04] <erUSUL> d4t2ill4: also
[03:04] <leladia> ikonia: i am trying to filter out files that are not hidden from the hidden files
[03:05] <erUSUL> !intelhda | d4t2ill4
[03:05] <ubotu> d4t2ill4: For fixing your Intel HDA sound this page has useful information https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HdaIntelSoundHowto
[03:05] <ikonia> leladia gparted launches fsck
[03:05] <ikonia> oops
[03:05] <erUSUL> leladia: ls -l will give you the list you want
[03:05] <ikonia> gparted launches fsck
[03:05] <danar> ikonia: i switched to the 2nd disk in gparted, and there's a little warning symbol, with that error
[03:05] <jrib> leladia: just do  ls -dl .*
[03:06] <grirgz> bye
[03:06] <leladia> erUSUL: i don't want to display the none hidden files. what i want is to display only the files that are hidden
[03:06] <djm62> I'm on an expensive download connection - how can I get automatic updates to stop automatically downloading, using up my pre-paid time and kicking me offline?
[03:06] <erUSUL> leladia: do as ikonia pointed out
[03:06] <leladia>  jrib: let me try it and see, thanks
[03:06] <ikonia> djm62 click no when asked if you want to update
[03:06] <erUSUL> leladia: ohn it was jrib
[03:06] <d4t2ill4> I have an old laptop, I think it is using an Crystal Sound
[03:07] <djm62> ikonia: when the update icon appears, it already seems to have downloaded (the wee orange one with the star in it)
[03:07] <ikonia> djm62 its not
[03:07] <ikonia> it downloads the list of available updates, thats it
[03:07] <danar> djm62: run synaptic. there's a setting to turn off automatic updates
[03:07] <Whitor> Hi, I'm trying to make an icopn that will execute a command for me.... rather than opening a terminal and typing it in everytime I reboot... I've created an icon with the command "compiz --replace && emerald --replace &" in the launcher tab. (minus the quotes) but it isn't working...
[03:07] <Whitor> why?
[03:07] <Nikolas1994> How do i download wine?
[03:07] <elkmann> does my question not fit in here?.. how can I teach programs using kdelibs to use firefox instead of konqueror when they load an URL?
[03:07] <Whitor> icopn = icon
[03:08] <ikonia> elkmann you'll get better response in #kubuntu as more kde users in there
[03:08] <danar> Nikolas1994: it should be in the add/remove apps
[03:08] <pike_> Nikolas1994: sudo apt-get install wine    unless you need a specific version
[03:08] <erUSUL> elkmann: i do not use kde but i'm sure there is some place to configure preferred apps
[03:08] <elkmann> but I'm using gnome, just some kde progs..
[03:08] <djm62> danar: I want automatic updates, I just want to get on a proper connection to download them.  When I click the orange icon, it updates successfully despite me not being online, which suggests the packages are already downloaded - or have I got the wrong end of the stick?
[03:08] <ikonia> elkmann preferences preffered aplications, but as I say the kde users in #kubuntu may be better
[03:09] <ikonia> djm62 thats what you've got
[03:09] <pike_> elkmann: im sure its in ~/.kde somewhere :)
[03:09] <leladia>  jrib: thanks. i am trying to break down your answer so that i can do some little modification to it
[03:09] <elkmann> alright
[03:09] <danar> djm62: did you check the setting? it's configurable
[03:09] <ikonia> djm62 auto updates downloads the list of updates only
[03:09] <qazibasit> i dont like kubuntu
[03:09] <elkmann> thanks anyway!
[03:09] <leladia> jrib: and maybe get a different flavor of it.  i really appreciate
[03:09] <danar> djm62: it tends to download the updates in the background. security ones anyway
[03:09] <pike_> kde always seems little clunkier but its good for like media boxes on tvs
[03:09] <danar> djm62: but you can tell it not to
[03:10] <leladia> jrib: thanks
[03:10] <IdleOne> djm62: System > administration > Synaptic package manager the click on the Updates Tab and select the Only notify Option
[03:10] <IdleOne> gottago have a good day
[03:10] <stefg> danar: FYI, even using aptitude didn't fix it. seems i have to let apt do its stupid thing and install all the stuff manually and explicitly after.... bug reporting time...
[03:10] <whonicca> does anyone upload to rapidshare?  do you have problems when click on upload?
[03:10] <d4t2ill4> thank you erUSUL
[03:10] <erUSUL> d4t2ill4: no problem did you get sound now?
[03:11] <d4t2ill4> I am downloading the dev tools now
[03:11] <danar> stefg: hrm. sometimes it works, sometimes not. it was worth a shot
[03:11] <d4t2ill4> erUSUL: not yet but I am reading through the guide now
[03:12] <danar> stefg: if you use apt-get though, you don't have to autoremove stuff
[03:12] <d4t2ill4> This new version of Ubuntu is so easy to use.
[03:12] <d4t2ill4> 7.0.4
[03:12] <danar> stefg: or was it aptitude, i forget now. one of them will try to force to to remove 'unwanted' stuff on upgrading & such. the other won't
[03:13] <danar> d4t2ill4: wait until gutsy :)
[03:13] <danar> d4t2ill4: oct 18th
[03:13] <cow_band_drumer_> hai
[03:13] <djm62> IdleOne: you just saved me a fair bit of cash :) thank you.  For those googling, that's System->Administration->Synaptic Package Manager:Settings->Repositories->Updates
[03:13] <stefg> danar: sure, i don't /have/ to, but as said before, i don't want to sacrifice that feature. of course i want to autoremove all unwanted deps if i purge a package, but for sure not my language support
[03:13] <d4t2ill4> danar, is that a good expression ?
[03:13] <danar> stefg: if you want to, then use aptitude
[03:14] <danar> d4t2ill4: ?
[03:14] <eidolon> hi folks, is there a problem with archive.canonical.com this morning?  having a hard time getting my GPG signatures running updater.
[03:14] <danar> djm62: i already told you that, lol
[03:14] <stdin> eidolon: seen the topic?
[03:14] <Pici> eidolon: Yes, theres an issue, see the topic.
[03:14] <djm62> danar: I knew there was an option, I just couldn't find the damn thing - thank you for your help
[03:15] <d4t2ill4> danar, so it would be much simpler to use with Gutsy version ?
[03:15] <eidolon> ah, gotcha, thank you.
[03:15] <danar> d4t2ill4: maybe not much simpler, but it's an improvement. and there are things like a GUI for configuring X and such, so some things are 'simpler', yes
[03:16] <d4t2ill4> well i am quite happy 7.04, its so much faster even on a 500Mhz laptop
[03:16] <danar> d4t2ill4: which means a non command-line application for configuring graphics options and such
[03:16] <danar> d4t2ill4: i think gutsy will be more efficient
[03:16] <d4t2ill4> danar, that's good!
[03:17] <danar> indeed
[03:17] <danar> d4t2ill4: it's due on the 18th
[03:17] <d4t2ill4> danar, I remember trying to get wireless working I had to install a few connection manager program just to avoid cli
[03:17] <annoybot> Lalalala I can't hear you, danar..
[03:17] <annoybot> Lalalala I can't hear you, d4t2ill4..
[03:17] <danar> wtf? lol
[03:18] <amadeux> How can I get write access to NTFS partitions on Feisty?
[03:18] <Mortice> !ntfs-3g | amadeus
[03:18] <ubotu> amadeus: ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[03:18] <danar> d4t2ill4: i don't use wireless, so i can't speak to that, but lots of things will be improved
[03:19] <d4t2ill4> If I can get my sound working and able to play mkv, I'd be very happy
[03:19] <djm62> oh- while I remember, is there a simple way to share my wired internet connection using my wireless card? if not, reasonably complicated will do: only needs to be with one machine, winXP
[03:19] <d4t2ill4> I wonder how come ubuntu don't automatically install codecs?
[03:20] <Pici> !codecs | d4t2ill4
[03:20] <ubotu> d4t2ill4: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[03:20] <danar> d4t2ill4: codecs.... legal/patent issues
[03:20] <Tomcat_`> djm62: Check the arno-iptables-firewall package & website... it is complicated though.
[03:20] <genii> Back
[03:21] <d4t2ill4> danar, I see
[03:21] <genii> danar: Get anywhere on recovering the 8G?
[03:21] <danar> genii: nope
[03:21] <djm62> Tomcat_`: thank you - I'll check it out
[03:21] <danar> genii: i haven't rebooted yet though, so i didn't play with the bios yet
[03:22] <genii> danar: I suspect if any settings will make it available, some drive mapping in there
[03:22] <danar> genii: i was busy trying to be helpful :P
[03:22] <danar> genii: yeh. it's about my last resort.
[03:22] <grjemo> I am trying to put ubuntu on to my windows sp2 pc. I put the disc in, but when I turn it on it says, missing operating system. What do I do?
[03:23] <danar> genii: well, i'll try that now. i'll let ya know
[03:25] <Kenny3> i got ubuntu ultimate 1.4 vmware image. when i try to open network>host comouter name it says "The folder contents could not be displayed" why?
[03:25] <ikonia> Kenny3: ubuntu ultimate is not supported
[03:26] <Kenny3> not supported by what?
[03:26] <Mortice> Kenny3: this channel.
[03:26] <ikonia> the ubuntu commuinty does not support ubuntu ultimate as it is not an ubuntu product
[03:27] <italian_spike> hi
[03:27] <pacmanfan> conventional wisdom has said that when you change motherboard chipset or video card drivers it's best to reinstall Windows... is this the case with Ubuntu too?
[03:27] <leladia> pls i don't really understand what the -d option stands for in ls command
[03:27] <italian_spike> i removed some pckgs but when i grep they are still there
[03:27] <leladia> can some pls explain this to me?
[03:27] <italian_spike> how do i update my installed package list?
[03:27] <grjemo> Can anyone help me?
[03:28] <genii> updatedb
[03:28] <Kenny3> but ubuntu ultimate is based on ubuntu, isnt it...
[03:29] <ikonia> Kenny3 it is not made or support by the ubuntu commmunity
[03:29] <Mortice> Kenny3: ubuntu is based on debian, but you won't get support for ubuntu from the debian community :)
[03:29] <student002> I can't install anything from terminal but I can from synaptic
[03:29] <student002> how do I fix this?
[03:30] <Tomcat_`> student002: What are you doing in Terminal to install stuff?
[03:30] <genii> leladia: ls -d shows the directory names and not what's in the directories
[03:30] <Mortice> student002: could you be more specific? What commands are you using on the terminal?
[03:30] <student002> sudo apt-get install pkg
[03:30] <praet> student002: [sudo apt-get install packagename]
[03:30] <Kenny3> so anyone know ubuntu ultimate channel name?
[03:30] <Pici> student002: If you are trying to download from the archive servers and its not working, please see the topic.
[03:30] <student002> I think it's cause I'm behind a proxy
[03:30] <grjemo> Thanks /sarcasm
[03:30] <italian_spike> i still get a list of installed stuff i don't have
[03:31] <student002> it keep saying could not connect to http.us.debia.org connection refused
[03:31] <leladia> genii: thanks and when i add the argument .* to the end (ls -d .*) what would that mean?
[03:31] <student002> but when I got synaptic it works just fine
[03:31] <Pici> !ask | grjemo
[03:31] <ubotu> grjemo: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[03:31] <Mortice> grjemo: sorry, it seems your question got missed
[03:31] <Tomcat_`> student002: Debian? Did you mess with the packaging system? ;)
[03:31] <Mortice> grjemo: have you confirmed that there's something on the CD when you open it in windows?
[03:31] <student002> it's been doing this ever since I installed ubuntu which was like 2 months ago
[03:32] <student002> tomcat, I put in a debian repository into sources.list
[03:32] <student002> I thought maybe that would fix it
[03:32] <grjemo> I am trying to boot with it. I burned it according to the instructions.
[03:32] <Tomcat_`> student002: No, it will break stuff.
[03:32] <Kenny3> lets say i would hav ubuntu, what would i do then with my problem?
[03:32] <genii> leladia: That would mean to show all hidden directory names (hidden names begin with .)
[03:32] <student002> oh
[03:32] <Nikolas1994> Hello
[03:32] <Mortice> grjemo: yes, I know, but it may not have burnt properly. So I'm asking you to check the CD from within windows.
[03:32] <Pici> Kenny3: You got a vmware image that Ubuntu Ultimate distributed correct?
[03:32] <Nikolas1994> I have run the game i wanted to run but the graphics are really f*cked up
[03:33] <Pici> !ohmy | Nikolas1994
[03:33] <ubotu> Nikolas1994: Please watch your language and topic, and keep this channel family friendly.
[03:33] <grjemo> Okay. How?
[03:33] <Nikolas1994> ok
[03:33] <Nikolas1994> sorry lol
[03:33] <Nikolas1994> Any idea why it happens?
[03:33] <Kenny3> Pici: ya
[03:33] <Mortice> grjemo: put the CD in while running windows and open it from My Computer
[03:33] <student002> Tomcat_`, how do I make terminal know that I'm behind a proxy
[03:33] <praet> Kenny3: did you set up networking?
[03:33] <elektronisch> say i have a lan connection and a wifi connection, is there a way to switch which one I want to use using the console.  i do not want to ifconfig <interface> down the device, i just want to switch what all applications will default to
[03:33] <Tomcat_`> student002: No idea really... there is some way though.
[03:34] <Tomcat_`> student002: Google for "bash proxy" or "apt proxy" or something.
[03:34] <praet> Kenny3: in vmware i mean. host networking over nat networking
[03:34] <grjemo> Okay just wait.
[03:34] <Pici> Kenny3: Okay, how exactly do you think we can support that?  They take ubuntu, make modifcations to it, and then distribute their own modified copy in a distribution method that we dont use.
[03:34] <vlt> elektronisch: man ip
[03:34] <student002> cause w/out that my other computer can't install anything..all I can use on that is terminal "gnome" doesn't start up
[03:34] <italian_spike> how do i get rid of extra stuff in my grep?
[03:34] <vlt> elektronisch: set a new default route
[03:34] <Kenny3> praet: yes, its bridged...
[03:34] <elektronisch> vlt: how do i do that
[03:34] <djm62> italian_spike: what do you want rid of?
[03:34] <Nyle> good morning
[03:34] <Mortice> italian_spike: you mean you've got a long list of results and you only want to see some of them?
[03:35] <Nyle> how many more days to gusty ubuntu
[03:35] <genii> italian_spike: You mean the cache of sored install files in /var/cache/apt/archives ?
[03:35] <Mortice> !ubuntu+1 | Nyle
[03:35] <genii> *stored
[03:35] <Pici> Nyle: 18th.
[03:35] <Tomcat_`> Nyle: 13 days
[03:35] <ubotu> Nyle: Gutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10) | (due October 2007) | It is development software, and as such unstable, support _only_ in #ubuntu+1 | See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GutsyGibbon for more information
[03:35] <nicoAMG> Hello!
[03:35] <Mortice> slowcoach, ubotu :P
[03:35] <Kenny3> Pici: i understand...