[06:13] <riotkittie> i'm such a dummy. all this time, i've been able to connect to WEP :X
[06:13] <WaltzingAlong> markw: i await your suggestion.
[06:14] <Bonaparte> markw, i was following steps to install ispconfig in how to forge after editing my fstab system crashed i reversed the procedure i idid but no GUI
[06:14] <bruenig> what happens?
[06:17] <heyboygetasweate>  im trying to set my Ubunto to work at college can anyone help'
[06:17] <m1r> hi bruenig
[06:17] <marx2k> heyboygetasweate: what do you mean
[06:17] <venomous> can someone help me set up my ubuntu so i can host websites
[06:17] <diego> opa
[06:17] <diego> alguem aew?
[06:17] <WaltzingAlong> heyboygetasweate: you will have to do the learning, ubuntu is merely a tool
[06:18] <heyboygetasweate> i need to set it up using a peap connection though a wired connection
[06:18] <admin8tor> venomous, ports blocked by your ISP? (ie 80)
[06:18] <the_lostone> tem eu
[06:18] <the_lostone> diego tem eu
[06:18] <diego> entao
[06:18] <diego> to com um problema aki
[06:18] <venomous> well how do i set it up so i can do it
[06:18] <markw> WaltzingAlong: if you've blown up the desktop, it's usually for one use.
[06:18] <diego> acho q voces podem me ajudar
[06:18] <markw> user too.
[06:18] <marx2k> heyboygetasweate: a peap connection?
[06:18] <the_lostone> diego eu tb
[06:18] <admin8tor> chupa capbra!
[06:18] <heyboygetasweate> Protected EAP
[06:18] <markw> WaltzingAlong: so you can A) delete that user, or B) go in and rm -rf the . files that control that particular desktop environment.
[06:18] <wastrel> heyboygetasweate:  you'll need proprietary drivers for that
[06:19] <diego> quando eu digito no terminal
[06:19] <wastrel> it's not supported out of the bo
[06:19] <wastrel> x
[06:19] <diego> memset(vet, 0 , sizeof(int)*9);;
[06:19] <diego> aff
[06:19] <diego> pera
[06:19] <wastrel> and it will only work with specific cards
[06:19] <diego>  glxinfo | grep direct
[06:19] <diego> aaprece a segiunte msn
[06:19] <diego> msg
[06:19] <diego> glxinfo: error while loading shared libraries: libGL.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[06:19] <diego> o q seria isso?
[06:19] <markw> WaltzingAlong: problem with ubuntu is the initial user is in the admin group, so you have to enable root before you delete that user.
[06:19] <WaltzingAlong> markw: which questions are you answering?
[06:19] <markw> WaltzingAlong: ie..  sudo passwd root
[06:19] <riotkittie> sweet. and then my network dies.
[06:19] <venomous> PM me if you can help me set up a server using the desktop version
[06:20] <markw> WaltzingAlong: about recovering a desktop without re-installing.
[06:20] <m1r> riotkittie, u got it runing ?
[06:20] <the_lostone> que nao tem aquele diretorio la
[06:20] <the_lostone> diego que nao tem aquele diretorio la
[06:20] <WaltzingAlong> markw: ok but i did not ask that. i wondered how to switch from the amd64 to i386 architecture without installing (or reinstalling ubuntu)
[06:20] <diego> como eu arrumo isso?
[06:20] <markw> WaltzingAlong: to go from x64 to i386 is trickier, but can be done.
[06:20] <dania> Apa yang kalian bicarakan, Boleh gabung nggak?
[06:20] <wastrel> ah wpa supplicant can maybe do it
[06:20] <diego> eu j atualizei kaze tudo pelo synaptic
[06:20] <donferna> !br | diego
[06:20] <ubotu> diego: Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigado.
[06:20] <verb> venomous, which ubuntu do you use?
[06:20] <wastrel> but i've neve rused that
[06:21] <venomous> The newest desktop version
[06:21] <diego> na verdade isso deu depois de varias tentativas frustada de instalar a placa de videio para rodar o beryl
[06:21] <WaltzingAlong> markw: i thought it could too, i just though installing fresh would be faster
[06:21] <markw> WaltzingAlong: installing fresh in your case is faster, just remember your partition setups.
[06:21] <markw> WaltzingAlong: thought you were talking about reinstalling to recover a fubar desktop.
[06:22] <n0dl> quick question is the alternate cd a desktop or server install. or both?
[06:22] <doctorow> I'm running Feisty Fawn with the Gnome. When I open and save files in gnome apps, the file listing includes all the files that start with "." -- so when I open my home dir, I see .wine, .xine, etc. Is there a way to tell gnome to hide these? THanks!
[06:22] <WaltzingAlong> markw: yeah there was another asking about messing up the desktop
[06:22] <verb> venomous, ok...to install the popular (apache+php+mysql) stack on ubuntu enter the following command:
[06:22] <verb> venomous, sudo tasksel install lamp-server
[06:22] <scguy318> heyboygetasweate: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=278603
[06:22] <donferna> n0dl, I think its just a desktop cd
[06:22] <m1r> n0dl, desktop
[06:22] <WaltzingAlong> n0dl: it is a desktop cd
[06:22] <n0dl> damn
[06:22] <musikgoat> lo all, having touchpad scrolling issues recently, been using gsynaptics and the touchpad menu,  before it worked,  and now everything works except for vertical (and I assume, but haven't tested) horizontal scrolling.
[06:23] <n0dl> oh sorry for cursing
[06:23] <the_lostone> diego to olhando isso aqui
[06:23] <d4zz4> sorry, i asked before but got dragged off. will amd64 ubuntu go on core2 duo?
[06:23] <m1r> n0dl, at least u get X ;=)
[06:23] <markw> Bonaparte: so if youhave a messed up desktop, and why you'd install ispconfig on a desktop is something that should be evaluated. :)
[06:23] <venomous> command: sudo tasksel install lamp-server??
[06:23] <musikgoat> i've removed gsynaptics and reinstalled,  any other suggestions?
[06:23] <the_lostone> diego essa parada so parece acontecer quando instala o beryl mesmo
[06:23] <markw> the_lostone: no habla.
[06:23] <verb> venomous,  yes or you can use this command also :
[06:23] <WaltzingAlong> venomous: you could also start sudo aptitude         then you could find lamp-server in the task lists
[06:23] <verb> venomous, sudo apt-get install apache2 php5-mysql libapache2-mod-php5 mysql-server
[06:24] <heyboygetasweate> would it work with ether a Nvidia CK804 or a Narvell 88E8001?
[06:24] <markw> anyone have issues with usb storage?
[06:24] <the_lostone> markw Do you know how to set up vpnc? my vpn is working on a windows box but it isnt on linux
[06:24] <verb> venomous,  you can use the above command instead of the first one
[06:24] <markw> the_lostone: yes.
[06:24] <WaltzingAlong> doctorow: right mouse click on that list (the open/save file dialog) (un)check show hidden files
[06:24] <venomous> whats the diff
[06:24] <venomous> rence?
[06:24] <verb> venomous, you can even use aptitude instead of apt-get
[06:24] <venomous> what is the diffrence%systemroot%\system32\cmd.exe
[06:24] <verb> venomous, no difference :0
[06:25] <venomous> ok
[06:25] <markw> the_lostone: you need to convert your cisco client config.  it's pretty straight forward.
[06:25] <markw> the_lostone: should have a google on it.
[06:25] <verb> venomous, see this page for more info :  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP
[06:25] <markw> I converted mine at work, so don't have the script in front of me right now.
[06:25] <scguy318> heyboygetasweate: ?
[06:26] <mokkan> hey, how do i install pidgin in ubuntu?
[06:26] <NemesisD> how do i automatically bring up an internet connection when booting? my interface ra0 works and everything but i have to sudo ifup ra0 to get it going
[06:26] <the_lostone> markw any how tos that you know about it?
[06:26] <markw> http://www.longren.org/2007/05/17/how-to-cisco-vpn-client-on-ubuntu-704-feisty-fawn/
[06:26] <musikgoat> mokkan: sudo apt-get install pidgin
[06:26] <mokkan> musikgoat, negative
[06:26] <heyboygetasweate> can i get protected EAP working withe ether a Marvell 88E8001 or a Nvidia CK804 network card?
[06:27] <mokkan> Er: Couldn't find package pidgin
[06:27] <markw> http://tinyurl.com/2vm9p5
[06:27] <buzdack> hi
[06:27] <buzdack> can anybody help me ?
[06:27] <musikgoat> what do you have set in /etc/apt/sources.list
[06:27] <venomous> i got this message Errors were encountered while processing:
[06:27] <venomous>  clvm
[06:27] <venomous>  redhat-cluster-suite
[06:27] <venomous>  system-config-cluster
[06:27] <venomous> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[06:27] <markw> buzdack: you'll have to help yourself.
[06:28] <musikgoat> iirc mokkan you need universe
[06:28] <verb> venomous, while what?
[06:28] <venomous> when i used the command
i cant , i keep trying more than a day
[06:28] <verb> venomous, ok ...do this again :    sudo apt-get install apache2 php5-mysql libapache2-mod-php5 mysql-server
[06:28] <sferley> Hi.. newbe here .. trying to figure out what happend to the libmyodbc package in the 6.06 release. apt-get install libmyodbc is failing stating with that it doesn't have a installation candidate ..
[06:28] <verb> venomous,  all in one line
[06:29] <buzdack> please help with squid
[06:29] <verb> venomous, and tell me if the prob persists
[06:29] <scguy318> markw: mount manually?
[06:29] <venomous> put it in just as you typed it?
[06:29] <markw> scguy318: yeah, tell my kids that.
[06:29] <scguy318> markw: yes the daemon is gay
[06:30] <markw> scguy318: I think it broke with the last kernel update.
[06:30] <scguy318> markw: you can ground them that way :)
[06:30] <buzdack> help with squid
[06:30] <scguy318> markw: um...lemme look
[06:30] <mokkan> musikgoat, i have universe and multiverse and i still cant get it :\
[06:30] <markw> scguy318: here, have r00t... not happening.
[06:30] <verb> venomous,  yes ( just as the next message below)
[06:30] <verb> sudo apt-get install apache2 php5-mysql libapache2-mod-php5 mysql-server
[06:31] <sferley> libmyodbc package gone of the servers ?
[06:32] <verb> venomous, see it?
[06:32] <buzdack> help with squid
[06:32] <venomous> still getting the message
[06:32] <mokkan> musikgoat, the only repo its in seems to be gutsy
[06:32] <markw> scguy318: all I'm finding is references to "it's not mounting" and huge dmesg dumps that include a ton of non essetial info, along with quite a few bug reports on it.
[06:32] <venomous> wait i read more of what it says, its says i have all the newest version
[06:32] <markw> scguy318: I should do a presentation on udev for the lug, that way I'll be forced to dig into it.
[06:32] <musikgoat> oh. sorry mokkan,  there are some guides for compiling it
[06:32] <venomous> version's
[06:32] <markw> buzdack: you still haven't axed a question.
[06:32] <verb> venomous, give me  the full output and past it in  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org  and give me the link ...ok?
[06:32] <mokkan> ah oh well
[06:32] <mokkan> i'll just wait for 7.10
[06:32] <mokkan> thanks anyway
[06:32] <markw> buzdack: we can't give any anwsers or formulate a google query unless you ask.
[06:33] <scguy318> markw: some random post suggests checking and removing this file: /usr/share/hal/fdi/policy/gparted-disable-automount.fdi
[06:33] <scguy318> markw: supposedly set by GPartEd to prevent mounting while doing its precious operations
[06:33] <markw> sferley: you only need that for windows interaction. :)
[06:33] <heyboygetasweate> can i get protected EAP working withe ether a Marvell 88E8001 or a Nvidia CK804 network card?
[06:33] <scguy318> markw: wow my connection seriously lagged
[06:33] <markw> why the heck is gparted even running?
[06:33] <scguy318> markw: did you get my message?
[06:33] <venomous> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/38082/
[06:34] <markw> scguy318: not there.
[06:34] <markw> root@hercules64:/home/markw# less /usr/share/hal/fdi/policy/gparted-disable-automount.fdi
[06:34] <markw> /usr/share/hal/fdi/policy/gparted-disable-automount.fdi: No such file or directory
[06:34] <musikgoat> having touchpad scrolling issues recently, been using gsynaptics and the touchpad menu,  before it worked,  and now everything works except for vertical (and I assume, but haven't tested) horizontal scrolling.    any suggestions?
[06:34] <sferley> markw: libmyodbc = Mysql odbc driver needed for a integration between different servers
 i have 2 network. Ethernet and Wi-Fi . Ethernet work with squid, but with Wi-Fi network - no. Ping it is. Why the squid is not working with Wi-fi.
[06:34] <markw> sferley: key word is different.
[06:35] <markw> ie, way different, as in an odbc client.
[06:35] <scguy318> markw: the suggestion was conjectured to be as a result of GPartEd not cleanly exiting lemme look
[06:35] <venomous> verb did you get it?
[06:35] <verb> venomous, yes I am looking at it ..please wait
[06:35] <markw> scguy318: yeah, that's not it here.
[06:35] <sferley> markw: yes as in we have a application running on one machine that needs to query the mysql database server on the other ..
[06:35] <markw> it was working fine and then poof.
[06:36] <verb> venomous, did you try to install Red Hat Cluster Suite in the past?
[06:36] <markw> buzdack: can you ping the ip of the wifi interface?   also, was the wifi interface up before squid, or after?
[06:36] <Talcite> I need to speak with an expert with openSSH
[06:36] <CyberMad> where is fonts location in ubuntu? i tried /home/<username/.?? fonts but there is no fonts folder
[06:36] <venomous> not that i know of
[06:36] <chevy> who have good anti virus for ubuntu ?
[06:36] <markw> buzdack: if you bring an app up, and it connects to the interfaces that are up at the time, then you bring a new interface up, sometimes the app won't see the new interface.
[06:37] <scguy318> markw: anything in dmesg?
[06:37] <markw> buzdack: if squid was up before wifi, it may not be listening on wifi.   netstat -tunap | grep 3128 <- see what squid is listening on.
[06:37] <scguy318> markw: ive honestly never encountered it personally, else I would be able to help more :(
[06:37] <markw> scguy318: just the usb stuff.
[06:37] <verb> venomous, ok the good news is that the full stack is installed correctly :)  you can point your web browser to http://localhost/ and tell me what it says
[06:38] <markw> scguy318: I'd seen it before when gnome-volume-manager died, but I checked that.
[06:38] <venomous> Index of /. and then a folder apache2-default/
[06:38] <verb> venomous, success :)
[06:39] <venomous> how do i know if the port is open?
[06:39] <markw> scguy318: it's sooo much easier with headless servers in a data center. :)
[06:39] <markw> venomous: port open ??  use netstat
[06:39] <markw> it will show all.
[06:40] <verb> venomous, the system's port is open automatically , but what you need to do is to forward the port from your router to your server
[06:40] <buzdack> root@buzdack-desktop:~# netstat -tunap | grep 3128
[06:40] <buzdack> tcp        0      0 <IP_ADDRESS>:3128        <IP_ADDRESS>:*               LISTEN     25764/(squid)
[06:40] <buzdack> tcp        0      0 <IP_ADDRESS>:3128        <IP_ADDRESS>:*               LISTEN     25764/(squid)
[06:40] <buzdack> tcp        0      0 <IP_ADDRESS>:3128        <IP_ADDRESS>:3699        ESTABLISHED25764/(squid)
[06:40] <buzdack> tcp        0      0 <IP_ADDRESS>:3128        <IP_ADDRESS>:39307       TIME_WAIT  -
[06:40] <scguy318> markw: well, they wouldn't use a GNOME daemon for hotplugging :)
[06:40] <verb> venomous, so that the world can access your server
[06:40] <scguy318> markw: if there's even a need for hotplugging :D
[06:40] <maestrojed> So I just installed samba for my first time.  I set the path to a second hd in my system.  I also set the permissions of that drive to 0777  but I anytime I try to write to that dirve (locally or via a network connection/samba connection) I get a permissions error.  Any idea why?  Could it be because the owner and group of that drive is root?
[06:40] <markw> buzdack: you have issues.   <IP_ADDRESS> is self assigned.
[06:40] <venomous> what is the default port
[06:40] <verb> venomous, 80
[06:40] <the_lostone> markw groupname? i'm not familiar with vpn could you give me some tips
[06:40] <venomous> can i change it?
[06:40] <verb> venomous, yes
[06:41] <verb> venomous, why do you want to do that?
[06:41] <markw> the_lostone: group name should've come from the .pcf
[06:41] <markw> or leave it blank.
[06:41] <venomous> I dont like using default ports
[06:41] <petesejt> some1 pls help right now... :-( what option do I have to type to ubuntu live cd to boot to command line directly?
[06:41] <scguy318> markw: the Gentoo Wiki suggests adding gnome-volume-manager to your startup, you've prob already tried this
[06:42] <markw> scguy318: it's there.
[06:42] <verb> venomous, ok the link I gave you ( https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP ) tells you how to do it
[06:42] <markw> scguy318: I usually don't go asking unless I've done a ton of searching.
[06:42] <markw> :)
[06:42] <venomous> ok thank you Verb have a good one.
[06:42] <markw> scguy318: 14 years of linux has taught me a few things... :)
[06:42] <verb> venomous, np :) .....but let's remove this clvm thing first
[06:42] <CyberMad> where is exactly ~/.fonts/ directory   ?
[06:42] <verb> venomous, sudo apt-get remove clvm
[06:43] <markw> scguy318: mostly the new auto desktop stuff that gets me...   not a gui guy.
[06:43] <scguy318> markw: i would love to not be one :)
[06:43] <scguy318> markw: this happens to be out of my league :(
[06:43] <venomous> UGH! error
[06:43] <petesejt> i have searched the net already, but the most of the hits are describing how to boot always into command line. i have to fix something and do not have more time... customer is waiting to me....
[06:44] <Madpilot> CyberMad, in your home directory.
[06:44] <markw> scguy318: don't get me wrong, I like eye candy, but most the time it's browser and a bazillion terminals open.
[06:44] <verb> venomous, what is it?
[06:44] <Madpilot> CyberMad, ~ is short for 'your home directory' - and anything that starts with a dot - like .fonts - is hidden by default
 Wi-FI interface is <IP_ADDRESS> . i dont know but I reboot laptop and now squid is working. Thanks for the help from Ukraine. Respect
[06:45] <kurros> CyberMad:  if you don't have it then create it, to add fonts
[06:45] <aria> rieeee_moetzzz
[06:45] <petesejt> some1 pls help right now... :-( what option do I have to type to ubuntu live cd to boot to command line directly?
[06:45] <scguy318> markw: South Dakota you are from? not seriously far from Texas :)
[06:45] <markw> buzdack: <IP_ADDRESS> means your interfaces aren't really configured for any network.
[06:45] <venomous> verb: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/38083/
[06:46] <the_lostone> markw: I stilll cant get it working
[06:46] <markw> scguy318: south dakota??  too fsckig cold...   SD == san diego.
[06:46] <scguy318> markw: ah
[06:46] <scguy318> markw: i used to live in California
[06:46] <markw> scguy318: but I grew up in iowa.
[06:46] <scguy318> petesejt: init=/bin/sh? :P
[06:46] <the_lostone> markw could you pm me just for a sec?
[06:46] <markw> scguy318: thinking about moving...
[06:47] <scguy318> markw: yes move to Texas or w/e, California land prices are outrageous
[06:47] <markw> the_lostone: without having the stuff in front of me, I can't help you, other than point you at the url I did earlier.  sorry.
[06:47] <scguy318> markw: plus subprime business, not looking so great
[06:47] <markw> scguy318: I have 6100 square feet of land with 1500 squft of house.
[06:47] <the_lostone> ok could you point the url, thanks
[06:47] <kurros> petesejt: i believe you'll need the alternative disc, not the desktop disc
[06:47] <markw> scguy318: I'm good, bought it awhile ago.
root@buzdack-desktop:~# iwconfig ra1
[06:47] <scguy318> markw: not bad :)
[06:48] <markw> scguy318: I was in texas last August for a bike ride.
[06:48] <buzdack> ra1       RT61 Wireless  ESSID:"Wireless_Leo"  Nickname:"LinuxWireless"
[06:48] <buzdack>           Mode:Ad-Hoc  Frequency:2.412 GHz  Cell: 3A:28:E9:41:C2:A1
[06:48] <buzdack>           Bit Rate=11 Mb/s
[06:48] <buzdack>           RTS thr:off   Fragment thr:off
[06:48] <buzdack>           Encryption key:off
[06:48] <buzdack>           Link Quality=95/100  Signal level:-36 dBm  Noise level:-79 dBm
[06:48] <buzdack>           Rx invalid nwid:0  Rx invalid crypt:0  Rx invalid frag:0
[06:48] <buzdack>           Tx excessive retries:0  Invalid misc:0   Missed beacon:0
[06:48] <scguy318> !pastebin | buzdack
[06:48] <ubotu> buzdack: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[06:48] <scguy318> scguy318: really? cool, where'd you go?
[06:48] <TheJDShow> blahhhhhhhhhh
[06:48] <musikgoat> having touchpad scrolling issues recently, been using gsynaptics and the touchpad menu,  before it worked,  and now everything works except for vertical (and I assume, but haven't tested) horizontal scrolling.       any suggestions?
[06:48] <markw> buzdack: the 169 address is self assigned, meaning that the interface didn't receive a dhcp response or wasn't configured statically.
[06:49] <verb> venomous, ok try doing : sudo dpkg -r --purge clvm         and if the same error happens don't worry ,it won't affect your system
[06:49] <markw> buzdack: you are basically stuck talking to yourself or your local network.
[06:49] <verb> venomous, I am a noob when it comes to package management :)
[06:49] <markw> scguy318: Wichita Falls.
[06:49] <venomous> its ok
[06:49] <markw> scguy318: Hotter Than Hell 100 century.
[06:49] <scguy318> markw: awesome, cool :)
[06:49] <inflex> hi there all, I've added an external USB HDD (320GB) and it's all good and well, /except/ that I cannot seem to assert that it should be bound as 'sde', instead it tends to pick a random letter which completely screws up my boot scripts and fstab
[06:49] <verb> venomous, also ...forgot to tell you that the files that will be served are located in /var/www/
[06:49] <scguy318> markw: yes zomg
[06:49] <markw> scguy318: my first 5 hour ride. :)
[06:49] <inflex> is there a way to bind '/dev/sde' only to this particular HDD ?
[06:50] <verb> venomous, anything you put there will be served
[06:50] <scguy318> inflex: no, but you could specify UUID
[06:50] <markw> scguy318: I hit 50 miles in 2:15.
[06:50] <markw> blew up at 70. :)
[06:50] <inflex> scguy318: uuid?
[06:50] <scguy318> markw: lol, better than me when it comes to life :P
[06:50] <venomous> alright thank you
[06:50] <scguy318> inflex: you can specify UUID in place of a device name in fstab
[06:50] <verb> venomous, you are welcome :)
[06:51] <inflex> hmmm... okay, I must be old-school unix then, always have referred to drives by device name :(
[06:51] <inflex> scguy318: I'll read up on it
[06:51] <scguy318> inflex: ls /dev/disk/by-uuid
[06:51] <markw> inflex: you can label them or use the uuid in /etc/fstab to fix them to a mount point.
so what i have to do ?
[06:51] <inflex> thanks guys
[06:51] <markw> buzdack: do you have a router or some device handing out network addresses?
[06:52] <markw> buzdack: that box will talk to itself all day, and any other boxes on your network that self configured their ip.
[06:52] <inflex> aaaah, I seeeeeeee
[06:52] <markw> but they won't talk tot he world.
no i have just modem on desktop , and my router is my desktop with Ubuntu
[06:53] <markw> buzdack: http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc3330.html  <- look at local link stuff.
[06:53] <markw> buzdack: tghen you should have a ppp0 device or whatever tehy're calling it nowdays.
[06:53] <inflex> scguy318 / markw - great, working perfect now,..... thanks very much
[06:54] <markw> buzdack: any other computers on the network?
 yea, i have WinMe(Ethernet) and WinXp(Wi-Fi)
[06:55] <markw> buzdack: if you have a ppp link to the world, and all the other boxes can talk to squid on that box, then you should be good.
[06:55] <inflex> huzzaaaahrrr... it works
[06:55] <markw> buzdack: me/xp should self configure also.
[06:55] <logreeval> IS there a download manager to set a start time for the download?
[06:55] <inflex> now to destroy my performance by copying 200GB of data across :\
yea, i made it. ppp0 ihere is too.
[06:56] <scguy318> logreeval: dunno one-time cronjob?
[06:56] <markw> buzdack: ppp0 is your route to the world. the other boxes can use squid proxy.
[06:56] <markw> logreeval: use at
[06:56] <markw> logreeval: type at and hit enter.
[06:56] <markw> :)
[06:56] <markw> one time cron.
[06:56] <inflex> ja, use at
[06:56] <logreeval> markw ok
[06:57] <inflex> one-time cron... almost an oxymoron
yea I know.
 I made it
[06:57] <markw> buzdack: cool.
[06:57] <markw> logreeval: man at
[06:57] <markw> at 11:00
[06:57] <markw> markw@hercules64:~$ at 11:00
[06:57] <markw> warning: commands will be executed using /bin/sh
[06:57] <markw> at>
 why squid begun working after reboot laptop?
[06:58] <zeta> hey guys im getting an error with swiftweasel and its not starting up
[06:58] <zeta> anyone able to help
[06:58] <markw> buzdack: it came up after the wifi was up?
[06:58] <markw> buzdack: if the interface wasn't available for it to bond to, it won't bond to it.
yea
[06:59] <markw> if the wifi came up after squid, then squid didn't listen on the wifi.
[06:59] <PogueMcManus> can someone do me a favor?
[06:59] <markw> buzdack: since the wifi wasn't available.
[06:59] <zeta> nevermind, fixed it :D
[07:00] <PogueMcManus> can someone goto http://<IP_ADDRESS>:80 and tell me what happens
[07:01] <musikgoat> PogueMcManus: nothing...
[07:01] <PogueMcManus> what does it say?
I turned on laptop , then up desktop Wi-Fi - not working, if I up  desktop Wi-Fi then turn on laptop - working
[07:01] <musikgoat> sitting at connecting... time out...
[07:02] <linxuz3r> hi
[07:02] <boubbin> how to play mp3 with commandline ? or are there any full-audioplayers for commandline interface ? :)
[07:02] <linxuz3r> anyone using mp3 player with expansion card?
[07:03] <musikgoat> PogueMcManus: if i take off the port 80, then i get a colored screen but still connecting...
[07:04] <scguy318> PogueMcManus: timed out
[07:04] <logreeval> ok, so if i was going to download a file with at, i would make the command wget http://blahblah....com
[07:04] <Helmi> good morning ;)
[07:04] <markw> buzdack: race condition.
[07:04] <PogueMcManus> grr the ports are forwarded and the apache is installed i dont know what to do now
[07:04] <markw> turn on the squid machine first.
[07:04] <Helmi> does anyone have an idea why two of my mounted network shares don#t appear in the network places?
[07:05] <musikgoat> PogueMcManus: you have port forwarding
[07:05] <linxuz3r> mp3 players that plays flash movies when?
[07:05] <PogueMcManus> yes
[07:05] <musikgoat> ?   check your gateway
[07:05] <Helmi> they're mounted with guest access to the file system but the rest is nearly the same
[07:05] <musikgoat> can you get to apache on your local net?
how
[07:06] <markw> buzdack: you really need to think about dhcp.
[07:06] <linxuz3r> PogueMcManus when?
dinamic adressing
[07:06] <sexcopter> hi, i'm sharing an hp printer on this machine (running ubuntu feisty) and when i print from a networked pc (running xp), i don't get the option to print multiple pages per sheet, but when using the printer locally on the xp box, the option is there. any ideas what i need to do?
[07:06] <PogueMcManus> when what?
[07:06] <ibara> PogueMcManus: You might wanna try another port, make sure it's not your ISP blocking port 80
 you think i have to install DHCP server ?
[07:07] <PogueMcManus> ok. and all i did was install it do i have to do anything to the settings?
[07:07] <musikgoat> i don't think its that ibara, i would get immediate server not found
[07:07] <ibara> ah, yeah, guess so
[07:07] <musikgoat> PogueMcManus: from the computer  go to http://localhost
[07:07] <musikgoat> does that work?
[07:07] <PogueMcManus> ok
[07:07] <PogueMcManus> yes
[07:08] <markw> buzdack: I would, it will fix problems like this, or if it's just 3 machines, setup a 192.168.x.x network with the desktop being 192.168.x.1
[07:08] <musikgoat> PogueMcManus: are you using dhcp or static IP?
[07:08] <markw> buzdack: or buy a linksys/buffalo router.
[07:09] <PogueMcManus> um... dynamic?
[07:09] <gaminggeek> hello
[07:09] <gaminggeek> is this the support channel for gutsy?
[07:09] <Flannel> gaminggeek: no, #ubuntu+1
 i have too no many money . I live in Ukraine . How DHCP server i have to install?
[07:10] <markw> buzdack: google it.  apt-get install dhcp
thanks
[07:12] <musikgoat> PogueMcManus: your firewall is probly misconfigured.  nmap shows a whole lot of open ports, but port 80 is filtered
[07:13] <PogueMcManus> so i should change the port
[07:13] <musikgoat> i would say whats more important is figuring out why almost every one of your ports are open
[07:14] <musikgoat> what router do you have?
[07:14] <PogueMcManus> check it now see what happends
[07:14] <PogueMcManus> happens
[07:14] <PogueMcManus> there should be no ports open now
[07:15] <SLT> hello
[07:15] <SLT> i need help studio ubuntu
[07:16] <SLT> any body there
[07:17] <musikgoat> !ask
[07:17] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[07:18] <SLT> ok
[07:18] <SLT> ya i need to know is there an exe that will install studio ubuntu in windows besides wubi
[07:18] <musikgoat> PogueMcManus: still all open, as for your web server issue, i would recheck your settings on the port forwarding
[07:19] <q_a_z_steve> what's the closest/easiest client to connect to Nortel VPN, openVPN?
[07:19] <scguy318> SLT: why not just repartition on LiveCD?
[07:20] <CyberMad> does anyone here have problem with CUPS over network? well i got many complains from employee, that they can not print and need restart ubuntu several times..
[07:20] <SLT> well ive tride that like 5 times and it just wont work
[07:20] <CyberMad> how to fix it?
[07:21] <musikgoat> SLT you want to run ubuntu studio in windows?  how about in a virtual machine?
[07:21] <seanieb64> HALO!
[07:21] <seanieb64> I COME FROM FAMFURT!
[07:21] <seanieb64> :D
[07:21] <SLT> what about VM Ware
[07:21] <SLT> is that any good
[07:21] <seanieb64> musikgoat, try #ubuntustudio
[07:21] <musikgoat> thats what i just asked,  its very good
[07:21] <q_a_z_steve> CyberMad: ~CUPS
[07:21] <q_a_z_steve> !CUPS
[07:21] <ubotu> Printing in Ubuntu is done with CUPS. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows
[07:21] <musikgoat> seanieb64: thanks, i'm not looking for help
[07:22] <CyberMad> q_a_z_steve well, sometime the print job is works... but sometime the printer not responding
[07:22] <q_a_z_steve> any other computers having problems?
[07:22] <SLT> brb
[07:22] <CyberMad> on printer status (ubuntu) there is 1 jobs pending
[07:22] <q_a_z_steve> what model printer?
[07:23] <CyberMad> but on shared printer computer (windows xp pro sp2), there is no incoming printer job
[07:23] <CyberMad> Epson C58
[07:23] <PogueMcManus_> musikgoat: i think i fixed it
[07:23] <q_a_z_steve> any web interface into the actual printer, to check status, or if you send from windows does it print directly?
[07:23] <q_a_z_steve> with no waiting?
[07:23] <CyberMad> well, i manage 3 company, and all of them.. some computers use ubuntu as daily use
[07:23] <Cryoniq> Anyone dare to express how safe ntfs-3g is regarding writte support in it?
[07:23] <musikgoat> PogueMcManus_: the web server? or the firewall?
[07:24] <q_a_z_steve> ubuntu probably is showing a job because there is one that never left the computer.
[07:24] <Cryoniq> er write support
[07:24] <CyberMad> there is problem to with Epson LQ-1170, other company problem with Epson LX-300
[07:24] <PogueMcManus_> firewall. and its a DHCP
[07:24] <CyberMad> all of them use windows xp sp2 to share printer
[07:24] <q_a_z_steve> !VPN
[07:24] <ubotu> From more information on vpn please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Gaming_VPN_Using_PPTPD
[07:24] <q_a_z_steve> what if I don't know whether my network uses PPTPD???
[07:25] <CyberMad> q_a_z_steve on printer status (ubuntu) there is jobs pending
[07:25] <q_a_z_steve> CyberMad: I know, it is in the computer though, unless no one can print to this printer currently.
[07:25] <CyberMad> q_a_z_steve but on windows xp, there is no incoming job from ubuntu... but after restart, sometime it works
[07:25] <Cryoniq> I mean.. if anyone using ntfs-3g with write enabled could tell me if it works good and safe enough.
[07:26] <jimofade1> I have no sound with 7.04 on Toshiba laptop -- anyone have hints?
[07:26] <CyberMad> q_a_z_steve well, there is no problem with other computer that use windows os to print the printer, all problems are from ubuntu os
[07:26] <musikgoat> jimofade1: i had an issue with intel hd audio being my problem
[07:26] <CyberMad> q_a_z_steve does the CUPS services stuck or what?
[07:26] <SLT> g2g cya
[07:26] <maestrojed> So I just installed samba for my first time.  I set the path to a second hd in my system.  I also set the permissions of that drive to 0777  but I anytime I try to write to that dirve (locally or via a network connection/samba connection) I get a permissions error.  Any idea why?  Could it be because the owner and group of that drive is root?
[07:27] <musikgoat> jimofade1: if you turn up your speakers to full blast, can you hear a little faint audio?
[07:27] <q_a_z_steve> you can clear the queue and start the service over again, no reboot required, yeah.
[07:27] <jimofade1> musikgoat: what was the fix
[07:27] <CyberMad> q_a_z_steve i forget, how do you restart the cups service?
[07:27] <daning> how to restart my mouse?
[07:28] <Nutubuntu> Why would Swiftweasel (or Firefox) keep trying to find ~/.mozilla/swiftweasel/init.d and segfault when it can't?
[07:28] <CyberMad> q_a_z_steve /etc/init.d/cupsd restart ??
[07:29] <q_a_z_steve> CyberMad: not quite sure, not that used to it, I'm doing general troubleshooting at the moment...
[07:29] <q_a_z_steve> CyberMad: !google
[07:30] <q_a_z_steve> q_a_z_steve: !google
[07:30] <q_a_z_steve> q_a_z_steve: | !google
[07:30] <q_a_z_steve> wtf
[07:30] <PogueMcManus_> what does this mean: apache2: Could not reliably determine the server's fully qualified domain name, using <IP_ADDRESS> for ServerName
[07:30] <q_a_z_steve> DNS issue
[07:30] <musikgoat> PogueMcManus_: that just means your not using proper DNS
[07:30] <musikgoat> shouldn't be a problem
[07:31] <musikgoat> jimofade1: i'm looking up the fix
[07:31] <q_a_z_steve> anyone got any suggestions on Nortel VPN?
[07:32] <q_a_z_steve> Why doesn't feisty, nor gutsy support LiveCD persistence??? :(
[07:32] <scguy318> q_a_z_steve: by design
[07:32] <scguy318> q_a_z_steve: where would the LiveCD write to?
[07:33] <scguy318> q_a_z_steve: if you wanted it to be persistant wouldn't you install it? ;)
[07:33] <musikgoat> jimofade1: sudo nano /etc/modprobe.d/snd-hda-intel
[07:33] <musikgoat> that will create a new file
[07:33] <q_a_z_steve> scguy318: ANY USB stick!!!
[07:33] <scguy318> q_a_z_steve: then install it to there :)
[07:33] <musikgoat> in that file put the following line and save and reboot:
[07:33] <musikgoat> options snd-hda-intel model=auto
[07:34] <misley> does anyone know what signal 15 is from gconfd, I think it caused my xserver to restart
[07:34] <jimofade1> musicgoat: thank you
[07:34] <q_a_z_steve> no I wouldn't install it, I have too little space right now, liveCD's allow for learning and then no repercussions (sp)
[07:34] <scguy318> q_a_z_steve: exactly :)
[07:35] <sns> SABBIR
[07:35] <MyNickHere> hey! could someone tell me real quick how to prevent Xserver from running while ubuntu is booting?
[07:35] <q_a_z_steve> but installing the same shiz every day sux rocks, so I'm currently forced to use local repository, which is limited to that which I can figure out how to install day to day, and DL to a 1GB flash drive.
[07:36] <jetscreamer> chmod -x /etc/init.d/gdm
[07:36] <MyNickHere> jetscreamer: me?
[07:36] <jetscreamer> yeah +x to return it
[07:36] <Flannel> q_a_z_steve: check out AptOnCD
[07:36] <CyberMad> q_a_z_steve lol :)
[07:36] <CyberMad> q_a_z_steve thanks dude
[07:36] <MyNickHere> jetscreamer: when do i type that?
[07:37] <jetscreamer> in an xterm , add sudo
[07:37] <MyNickHere> jetscreamer: i wanna get to the terminal b4 i reach the GUI
[07:37] <MyNickHere> the drivers are wrong, so i can't see
[07:37] <jetscreamer> if you mean boot line, hit e at the grub prompt, hit e again to edit the line, add the word single.. then chmod it then exit
[07:37] <MyNickHere> jetscreamer: the drivers are wrong, so i can't see
[07:38] <jetscreamer> MyNickHere: when you can't see, does ctrl alt f1 take you to console?
[07:38] <q_a_z_steve> Flannel: I have, kind of... not too sure how to get it working, nor do I currently have CDRW's. Local repos works ok, but for the life of me I can't figure out how to get Network Manager 6.5 installed for LEAP access, and THEN WHAT ABOUT nvidia drivers??? I have to restart once I install! Unless someone can help me get gdm rebooted, would that get me the real driver?
[07:39] <q_a_z_steve> *working to my satisfaction...
[07:39] <sadmin> hi all
[07:39] <PogueMcManus_> is http://<IP_ADDRESS>:8080/ still messed up?
[07:39] <MyNickHere> jetscreamer: ctrl+alt+f1 = switch to console view?
[07:39] <musikgoat> nope PogueMcManus_ thats working
[07:39] <q_a_z_steve> It Works for me!
[07:39] <q_a_z_steve> :P
[07:39] <scguy318> PogueMcManus: i get a nice directory listing
[07:39] <musikgoat> your don't have an index file
[07:39] <jetscreamer> MyNickHere: or f2,f3,f4,f5,f6... f7 to go back to gui
[07:39] <musikgoat> :-P
[07:39] <MyNickHere> PogueMcManus_: no index
[07:39] <_nand_> #ubuntu-fr
[07:40] <MyNickHere> PogueMcManus_: but i can c dir
[07:40] <jetscreamer> MyNickHere: there is a bug, it might be hung.. might not i don't know i can't see
[07:40] <_nand_> sry :p
[07:40] <jetscreamer> MyNickHere: so if you can't ctrl alt f1, then add the word single at the grub prompt like i told you for a rescue console
[07:40] <PogueMcManus_> so you see apache2-default/
[07:40] <q_a_z_steve> echo <html><body>hello</body</html> > index.html although I really doubt that would work.
[07:40] <jetscreamer> then chmod -x
[07:40] <musikgoat> PogueMcManus_: yes
[07:41] <PogueMcManus_> that means it working right?
[07:41] <MyNickHere> well i'll bbl to update u on my (hopefully) success
[07:41] <MyNickHere> PogueMcManus_: yea
[07:41] <PogueMcManus_> Sweet thanks guys
[07:41] <musikgoat> PogueMcManus_: just put an index.html file in /var/www/  and you are good to go
[07:42] <rathel> How would I get RAM usage on the terminal?
[07:43] <musikgoat> rathel,  top
[07:43] <q_a_z_steve> Can anyone help me get Network Manager 6.5 installed for LEAP access, and THEN WHAT ABOUT nvidia drivers??? I have to restart once I install! Unless someone can help me get gdm rebooted, would that get me the real driver?
[07:44] <scguy318> q_a_z_steve: apt-get install nvidia-glx then sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg?
[07:45] <q_a_z_steve> scguy318: I can try
[07:45] <kevincool> Hi all
[07:45] <kevincool> what up?
[07:45] <q_a_z_steve> anyone have LEAP working?
[07:45] <musikgoat> q_a_z_steve: what driver do you have?
[07:45] <sadmin> i wan to set default screen saver and screen should be locked if left for 5 mins
[07:45] <kevincool> Hi all
[07:46] <sadmin> how can i do it globally so that every user profile affects
[07:46] <q_a_z_steve> Intel Pro 3945
[07:47] <hope13> um... can someone help me on compiz fusion? It's the borderless thingy.
[07:47] <Don64> Has anyone been able to get mondorescue to work with feisty?
[07:48] <zeeeee> hi all, can anyone help with my intel graphics issue? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=3396759
[07:48] <musikgoat> hope13: you mean you don't have menu headers?
[07:49] <Don64> !mondorescue
[07:49] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mondorescue - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[07:50] <q_a_z_steve> scguy318: well it didn't initialize into the restricted driver section, nor does Desktop Effects work, so eh...
[07:50] <q_a_z_steve> LEAP is more important.
[07:51] <hope13> mmm i enable the restricted Nvidia driver and added AddARGBGLXVisuals true but I still have the borderless problem for Compiz Fusion can someone help?
[07:51] <scguy318> q_a_z_steve: dunno about that google would help :(
[07:51] <musikgoat> hope13: are you calling emerald --replace &
[07:51] <scguy318> hope13: launch the gtk-window-decorator or w/e
[07:51] <q_a_z_steve> ubuntuforums are confusing :@
[07:53] <hope13> i don't know how to launch gtk-window T_T and i'm calling compiz --replace lol
[07:55] <pawitp> Anybody know what language is this? onbekend bestand of map
[07:57] <SABBIR> Samir vai where ar u
[07:59] <SABBIR> carbon
[08:00] <SABBIR> Samir i am going home.
[08:01] <q_a_z_steve> !tor
[08:01] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about tor - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[08:04] <daning> what's the time you guys there
[08:05] <sauvin> 0105 here.
[08:06] <q_a_z_steve> what's the difference between "sudo su" and "sudo su -"
[08:07] <musikgoat> i think that dash is something else
[08:07] <SirCharles428> quick question how do i find out the square root of 5 in python
[08:08] <musikgoat> SirCharles428: 5**(1/2)
[08:09] <scguy318> q_a_z_steve: i think sudo su puts you in the shell context of the sudoer and sudo su - puts you with root's shell
[08:09] <scguy318> q_a_z_steve: like home directory and shell vars
[08:09] <SirCharles428> musikgoat: Ty
[08:09] <Flannel> q_a_z_steve: No idea if anyone mentioned this already, but with nvidia you only have to restart X (ctrl-alt-backspace), not the computer itself.
[08:10] <Flannel> q_a_z_steve: the same difference between sudo -s and sudo -i (which you should use instead of sudo su)
[08:11] <albertmk> Hi. I have just installed CompizFusion but I still need to install my video driver. It is a NVidia. Can someone help me?
[08:12] <Sauvin> I usually sudo su -; what's sudo -i that's better?
[08:13] <scguy318> Sauvin: spare the su
[08:13] <wolferine> man sudo
[08:13] <scguy318> Sauvin: sudo -i -> root path, vars
[08:13] <bastid_raZor> sudo make me a sandwich
[08:14] <Tech-Mike> sup peeps, just want to know which p2p prog is best - want to switch from limewire
[08:15] <Avulture> Fellas, is there a way to convert Mp3pro to Mp3 without losing the quality ?
[08:15] <Tech-Mike> mp3_lam e
[08:16] <Tech-Mike> *mp3_lame
[08:16] <scguy318> Tech-Mike: Gnutella, QTella, etc.
[08:16] <scguy318> Tech-Mike: I don't P2P at all
[08:16] <musikgoat> Tech-Mike: torrent
[08:16] <Tech-Mike> i8 qtella is what i was checkn out
[08:16] <Tech-Mike> i torrent also
[08:16] <Avulture> guys ,,, is there a way ?
[08:16] <Tech-Mike> switched from azureus - ktorrent
[08:17] <scguy318> Tech-Mike: azureus suits me, for all the bloat
[08:17] <scguy318> Tech-Mike: uTorrent on Wine might work
[08:17] <Avulture> i think no one knows :S
[08:17] <scguy318> Tech-Mike: there are some CLI ones I think
[08:17] <Avulture> hmm,,what is the best bittorrent site guys ?
[08:17] <musikgoat> enhanced ctorrent
[08:17] <musikgoat> rtorrent
[08:17] <Tech-Mike> i used azureus and utorrent on vista but now use either default gnome-bittorrent or ktorrent
[08:17] <morphinex> Avulture: torrentz.com
[08:18] <scguy318> Avulture: isohunt.com as a search engine, demonoid.com for tracker
[08:18] <musikgoat> Avulture: demonoid
[08:18] <Avulture> i think mininova is good too
[08:18] <musikgoat> suprnova is back, but its just piratebay with an old front end
[08:18] <Avulture> :)
[08:19] <Tech-Mike> i use mininova
[08:19] <Avulture> i heard about that torrent site,, but unfortunately it's private
[08:19] <Avulture> i think it's called torrent damage
[08:19] <Avulture> many of my frineds told me that's it's just the best one
[08:19] <musikgoat> whats private?
[08:19] <scguy318> Avulture: i have a demonoid invite
[08:19] <Avulture> needs invitations
[08:20] <Avulture> scguy318, thanx buddy i use demonid too
[08:20] <cael> i was told to come here for a question relting to Yaboot,OSX and kubuntu.
[08:20] <Avulture> scguy318,  have you heard of torrent damage ?
[08:20] <scguy318> Avulture: i havent
[08:20] <scguy318> cael: yaboot, liek dual-boot?
[08:20] <cael> how do i configure yaboot to include OSX and make yaboot the first thing my imac boots?
[08:20] <cael> yes scguy
[08:21] <Avulture> scguy318, http://www.torrent-damage.net/
[08:21] <stuebillet> anyone have any idea as to why i would have problems mount UDF dvd's
[08:22] <scguy318> cael: i have no idea, not something the average person would know about here
[08:22] <scguy318> cael: ive seen guides for GRUB tho
[08:22] <internetaccess> hello
[08:22] <musikgoat> Avulture: are signups closed?
[08:22] <Avulture> yeah :S
[08:22] <internetaccess> kindly response
[08:22] <Avulture> since a very long time
[08:22] <cael> grub is a x86/amd
[08:22] <Avulture> i heard that's just the best one on earth
[08:22] <cael> and yea demonoid registers are set invitecode/1st of the month
[08:22] <Cryoniq> Think im going nuts soon. How hard shall it be to get a damned printer shared from this system so others computers can print via network.. :(
[08:22] <Avulture> congested with alot of things
[08:22] <scguy318> true
[08:23] <Cryoniq> sorry for the curse.. saw it now..
[08:23] <scguy318> cael: i do have Mac OS X 10.4.8 x86 ISOs, and I have a few guides :P
[08:23] <musikgoat> Avulture: are you sure?  i just registered
[08:23] <scguy318> cael: but obviously not what u want
[08:23] <internetaccess> hellllllllllllllllllo
[08:23] <scguy318> hai
[08:23] <cael> i guess they did it to rid bot signups/regulate the flow of registers
[08:23] <internetaccess> response
[08:23] <Avulture> musikgoat, are you registerd now ?
[08:23] <internetaccess> pls
[08:23] <musikgoat> yeah Avulture
[08:24] <internetaccess> i need pls
[08:24] <Avulture> :D
[08:24] <Avulture> let me try :D
[08:24] <cael> ohh scg
[08:24] <internetaccess> hi musikgoat
[08:24] <cael> is yours the JaS vers?
[08:24] <cael> i'm downloading it atm off a slow torrent -_-
[08:24] <musikgoat> hi
[08:24] <internetaccess> hello
[08:25] <Avulture> musikgoat, i think that site is been blocked by my ISP
[08:25] <internetaccess> why?
[08:25] <Avulture> musikgoat, what do you think of that site ?
[08:25] <musikgoat> sorry to hear that
[08:25] <musikgoat> i haven't really tried it yet
[08:25] <musikgoat> i'll give it a go
[08:25] <Avulture> yeah try it buddy
[08:25] <cael> i know howto make windows pcs multi-boot, verry easily actually its OpenFirmware PPC computers thats still new to me
[08:26] <Some_ux|laptop> how do i install raw hid usb on my ubuntu (/dev/hiddev0 for example) ?
[08:27] <Avulture> musikgoat, check your pvt
[08:27] <cael> dangit i think scguy left be4 mseeing my msg,
[08:27] <cael> but i take it sofar no one here has knowlage on yaboot?
[08:28] <musikgoat> Avulture: check my privates?  not right now, thats for later
[08:28] <Avulture> musikgoat, how did you register ?
[08:28] <Avulture> it needs a ticket number ?
[08:28] <musikgoat> no, don't fill that in
[08:28] <hmhowie> hi everybody. is anyone having problems with the package server for feisty-security atm?
[08:28] <Avulture> and it went smoothly ?
[08:29] <chuy_max> is there an app to encrypt a file and later restore it with a key so only I can view it?
[08:29] <musikgoat> yeah, got my confirm email and confirmed
[08:29] <mike__> i am having problems trying to get this mythtv to work, nothin much happens :P i dont know what im doin
[08:29] <albertmk> What is <shift><super>Button1 ? I am running compiz fusion
[08:29] <musikgoat> now browsing the site
[08:29] <mike__> im running fiesty
[08:29] <albertmk> I mean, I dont know what <super> is.
[08:29] <musikgoat> super is the windows key
[08:29] <albertmk> thanks
[08:30] <GuHHH> super man?
[08:30] <m11> is there super linux key ?
[08:31] <cael> hmmm anyone know to to mount a drive's partition to ubuntu? (my yaboot partition is /dev/hda2 )
[08:32] <Myrtti> sb end
[08:32] <Cryoniq> yatta.. finaly got printer network shared and working.. :P Now my day is near perfection ^^
[08:32] <Myrtti> !mount | cael
[08:32] <ubotu> cael: Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Gnome under Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For Edgy, see !fstab and !DiskMounter
[08:32] <Avulture> musikgoat, do you know some of working proxies ?
[08:32] <musikgoat> umm,  two that i've used at work are ninjaproxy.com and vtunnel.com
[08:32] <m11> cael, make dir in /media/disk , then mount with :mount /dev/hda2 /media/disk
[08:33] <cael> i'm using the Kubuntu distro
[08:33] <musikgoat> but you could use tor
[08:33] <Avulture> musikgoat,  i used vtunnel
[08:33] <Avulture> it refused it
[08:33] <Avulture> many are using it
[08:33] <musikgoat> oh
[08:33] <musikgoat> what about tor?
[08:33] <Avulture> hmm didnt' try it before.. but tell me,, is it really a great site  ?
[08:34] <juanra> hola a todos...........
[08:34] <musikgoat> i'm looking around,  it seems to have a decent amount of stuff.  i wouldn't really say its the best,  i'm quite happy with demonoid
[08:34] <Avulture> musikgoat, is using Tor an easy thing ?
[08:34] <Tarkus> when ubuntu asks for your password often for certain things, and the rest of the screen fades dark. well that fade animation lags, and is really slugish and annoys me like crazy.. is there i way i can fix this so its smooth? if not then is there a way to have no fading animation?
[08:35] <Avulture> or needs alot of configuration ?
[08:35] <musikgoat> we'll see if the seed/leech ratio is good after a while
[08:35] <codeyman> I am having trouble getting Dual monitors to work on feisty using mergedFB(ATI rev250 9000).. the setup is laptop+external LCD but the external monitor just show the stretched version of the laptop monitor.. any suggestions?
[08:35] <cael> ty that worked
[08:35] <musikgoat> umm, i haven't used tor on ubuntu before,  but i remember reading about a firefox plugin
[08:35] <Avulture> yeah there is a tor plugin i think let me see
[08:36] <m11> cael , if partition is NTFS, consider NTFS-3g
[08:37] <Some_ux|laptop> i dont understand isnt usbhid driver part of the standart install of linux ?
[08:37] <WaltzingAlong> !ntfs-3g
[08:37] <ubotu> ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[08:38] <cael> !yaboot
[08:38] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about yaboot - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[08:38] <cael> hmm has nothing for it
[08:38] <cael> i semi get what i need to do i needto make teh yaboot partition Active that i know
[08:39] <cael> now i need to set it for the Openfirmware Device path, hda path and partition number OS OSX
[08:39] <cael> *OF OS X
[08:39] <cael> Gparted shows its /dev/hda5
[08:40] <cael> (i know that its the one since its the 80GB partition i made for it , and its type: "hfs+"
[08:40] <Tarkus> anyone know why my windows sometimes open in the top left corner, instead of where i had it when i last used the program (center)?
[08:40] <CyberMad> about mount NTFS, is this same problem like mine? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=3394801#post3394801
[08:40] <codeyman> I am having trouble getting Dual monitors to work on feisty using mergedFB(ATI rev250 9000).. the setup is laptop+external LCD but the external monitor just show the stretched version of the laptop monitor.. any suggestions?
[08:40] <m11> cael, u on mac ?
[08:40] <cael> yes
[08:40] <m11> sry m8, cant help there
[08:40] <cael> a imac G3 to be exact
[08:41] <c_olin> Is someone able to help me get my direct file transfer working on xchat and feisty fawn?
[08:41] <musikgoat> Avulture: the site reminds me of ilovetorrents,  where you have to split rar's on all files, and there are rigid guidelines on how to upload and what clients to use
[08:41] <Some_ux|laptop> now i am baffled, what is usbhid ? is it a kernel module ? a device driver ?
[08:43] <cael> but Kubuntu seems to slowdown after updates are applied for a mac w/ these specs G3 PPC: 400mhz, 512MB ram 27GB partition for Ubuntu, whats better Xubuntu PPC or Regular Ubuntu PPC (Fiesty Fawn)
[08:43] <musikgoat> i know what the acronym stands for universal serial bus human interface device,  but i'm sure that doesn't help much :-P
[08:43] <cael> and usb hid are rather vauge
[08:43] <m11> cael , xubuntu for that low procesor imho
[08:43] <Imsdle> I want to know how to access another computers samba folder via terminal.. i want to create a backup script
[08:44] <cael> ranging from generic keyboards/mice to gamepads cameras and anything to do w/ human input
[08:44] <musikgoat> wow Avulture,  they are not lying about the number of seeders
[08:44] <Avulture> musikgoat, so is it really a great site ?
[08:44] <cael> wish i had a better torrent for OSx86 than whats on demonoid
[08:44] <cael> 13 seeds butreallllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllly slow arse speed
[08:45] <JesseT77> Hi
[08:45] <musikgoat> well my first experience makes me want to come back for more, i'd say its good
[08:45] <cael> gonan build a 2GHZ windows pc w/ OSX86 and Ubuntu fiesty fawn
[08:45] <musikgoat> i'm getting a full 1MB/s
[08:45] <cael> you downloading OSx86 musik?
[08:45] <musikgoat> thats better than average,  no cael
[08:46] <Some_ux|laptop> where do i get a list of ubuntu kernel modules
[08:46] <cael> but in general Demonoid is pretty good
[08:46] <JesseT77> Is there a way to get firefox to open "exe" files you download directly into wine?
[08:46] <cael> no
[08:46] <cael> ya haveto save then open
[08:47] <jeremyb> JesseT77: did you mention the extesion?
[08:47] <musikgoat> JesseT77: you may find something in about:config
[08:47] <jeremyb> extension*
[08:47] <cael> its somewhat ... a failsafe in firefox to prevent maleware that tries to install by directly making a browser run a exe file after download
[08:47] <musikgoat> oh
[08:48] <JesseT77> cael: jeremyb and co in #firefox pointed me to the "opendownload" plugin which adds a "run" button. That leaves how to interpret the file up to the OS.
[08:48] <cael> least its what it does in windows vers
[08:48] <jeremyb> (at irc.m.o)
[08:48] <Imsdle> ?
[08:48] <JesseT77> cael: So I think that should cause the file to be invoked through the same method as if I double clicked in nautilous
[08:48] <serph> what package do I need installed to get wx-config?
[08:49] <Avulture> musikgoat, the problem in those kinds of sites.. you have to maintain a good ratio between uuploading and downloading
[08:49] <cael> ok that does it i'm going to get tested for sugar diabeties.. thats the 3rd 2 liter of Faygo i downed in a hole day                      w/o really realising it >_<
[08:49] <musikgoat> yeah, i have a decent cable line, i don't mind
[08:50] <Avulture> musikgoat, what if you don't have
[08:50] <JesseT77> Simplifying the question: is there a way to get Nautilous to open exe's straight into wine? :)
[08:50] <musikgoat> my demonoid rating is 3.8
[08:50] <jeremyb> what other kind of diabetes is there?
[08:50] <Avulture> is there any way to cheat the tracker ?
[08:50] <musikgoat> i dunno
[08:50] <cael> avu yes but you can and will get banned if caught
[08:50] <JesseT77> jeremyb: There are insulin diabetes ;)
[08:50] <cael> kind ya nee dto take w/ just pills
[08:51] <jeremyb> JesseT77: isn't sugar an integral part of that too?
[08:51] <randoman> anyone know how to get the gnome menus in kiba-dock?
[08:52] <cael> yea but theres the type litterally called sugar diabeties where you litterally consume too much sugar in teh sense say your thirsty too much and your drinking nothing but pop
[08:52] <JesseT77> jeremyb: I am wildly guessing that you either end up craving sugar or craving insulin. IANAD
[08:52] <musikgoat> yey, time to go watch weeds, see ya Avulture
[08:52] <musikgoat> thanks for the recommendation
[08:52] <cael> and avu start making some torrent release or repacks. and seed some
[08:52] <cael> then when ya start downloading seed to atleast 2 full copies
[08:52] <Avulture> Later musikgoat
[08:52] <Avulture> NP buddy
[08:53] <Some_ux|laptop> ok, i give up.
[08:53] <cael> Faygo Moonmist: Sugars: 31g per serving, Serving size:8
[08:53] <Some_ux|laptop> anyone know how to install NUT ?
[08:53] <JesseT77> I Am Not A Squirrel
[08:54] <cael> :P on average i gothru 1~3 2lieter bottles a day
[08:54] <JesseT77> cael: I go through an average of 4
[08:54] <Imsdle> does anyone know how to access a server i.e. <IP_ADDRESS> from terminal
[08:54] <JesseT77> .. er.. cans.. *you*win*
[08:55] <JesseT77> Imsdle: SSH would be a popular method
[08:55] <JesseT77> Imsdle: VNC is another
[08:55] <cael> yea jesse i drink enough to make a Insulin type 1 diabetic go into shock
[08:55] <to3ff> hai
[08:55] <Tarkus> anyone know why my windows sometimes open in the top left corner, instead of where i had it when i last used the program (center)?
[08:55] <Imsdle> sorry.. i mean i need to access a samba shared folder
[08:56] <JesseT77> imsdle smb://<IP_ADDRESS>/
[08:56] <cael> i every so often have a smirnoff or 2
[08:56] <cael> but i'm a liqor wuss
[08:56] <cael> *Liqour
[08:56] <Imsdle> oh..
[08:56] <Imsdle> fams
[08:56] <Imsdle> fanks
[08:56] <JesseT77> np
[08:56] <cael> lms
[08:56] <cael> if its on sayt a 2 router network like me
[08:57] <cael> Make sure the computer w/ Ubuntu is on same network as teh on eyyour trying to access
[08:57] <cael> otherwise ya wont be able to acess it
[08:57] <Imsdle> im still stuck.. do i cd smb:// or just smb..
[08:58] <Imsdle> sorry
[08:58] <JesseT77> Imsdle: yes, make sure you are on the same side of a natting router. Or if you are on a different side, consider SCP instead of samba and set up a port forward
[08:58] <Imsdle> yeah im on the same side
[08:58] <JesseT77> Imsdle: smb:// will only work in nautilous (the file browser) not on the terminal
[08:58] <Imsdle> i can access it fine via nautilous
[08:58] <JesseT77> Imsdle: On the terminal it is better if you mount the samba share onto an empty directory. Then you can cd there.
[08:58] <Tech-Mike> synaptic question: if i choose download package files only...where  do they download to?
[08:58] <Imsdle> oh ok
[08:59] <Imsdle> i'll try that
[08:59] <Imsdle> fanks
[09:00] <q_a_z_steve> good work on the Ctrl+Alt+Backspace, froze the first time, but if I do it fresh, it's fantastic, however I still don't have the cube, although it's enabled... Any ideas???
[09:00] <cael> henh i tend to like game/anime alot for music
[09:00] <teKnofreak> Tech-Mike, /var/cache/apt/archives
[09:00] <Tech-Mike> coo thx
[09:01] <alienseer23> my bluetooth turned off, how do I turn it back on (terminal code?)
[09:01] <cael> though i wonder if teh people doing devs on the PPC kubuntu know about a bug w/ the "PowerMac Screamer" sound driver w/ imacs
[09:01] <Hakan[TT] > Hi, everyone.. Got a questions that I cant find any answer on ...   If I download and install Ubuntu 6.06 LTS - Supported to 2011
[09:02] <Hakan[TT] > what dose it cost
[09:02] <cael> (where using teh left front headphone jack mutes all sound and the right jack works but dosnt mute the onboard speakers
[09:02] <JesseT77> yay for ctrl+alt+backspace! Yay for rescue terminal! boo to ubuntu's monitor handling, ouch.
[09:02] <alienseer23> how do I eneble bluetooth?
[09:03] <JesseT77> Hakan[TT] : has an interesting question. Does LTS cost moneys?
[09:03] <cael> alien i wouldnt know i dunn have any bluetooth supported devices maybe someone here can help
[09:03] <cael> jesseyou use aim.msnor yim?
[09:04] <m11> jesset77, translate LTS ?
[09:04] <cael> gonna innstalll xubuntu for the mac instead of kubuntu
[09:04] <Evanlec> anyone here play Enemy Territory?
[09:04] <JesseT77> cael: Google Talk which runs a version of Jabber I think
[09:04] <m11> ET!
[09:04] <JesseT77> m11: LTS == Long Term Support
[09:04] <Hakan[TT] > The "LTS" version of Ubuntu receives long-term support. 3 years for desktop versions and 5 years for server versions
[09:04] <m11> ah , tnx jesset77
[09:05] <cael> i use adium in OSX what has jabber support
[09:05] <cael> *which
[09:05] <Hakan[TT] > dose the LTS cost anything ? cos if I install liek 10 servers with LTS support cos I dont wanna upgrade every 2 year or soo,,, but will it cost any ?
[09:05] <JesseT77> cael: yeah my mac friend has that and when I message him he has domo kun jumping all around his screen. aaaaah!
[09:05] <m11> then my answer is this, i think it has longer time of support, but u can buy comercial one
[09:06] <Hakan[TT] > But then....  Ubuntu 7.04 - Supported to 2008   and only  Ubuntu 6.06 LTS - Supported to 2011
[09:07] <JesseT77> Hakan[TT] : I remember wondering that when I saw those downloads on ubuntu's website. I did not research thoroughly: but they don't explain that in detail on the site, or at en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ubuntu ?  (my web browser is froze right now so I can't looks 4u :)
[09:07] <Hakan[TT] > soo why dotn 7.04 have LTS then ?
[09:07] <Tarkus> anyone know why my windows sometimes open in the top left corner, instead of where i had it when i last used the program (center)?
[09:07] <Some_ux|laptop> does anyone here use NUT for his UPS ?
[09:08] <SLT> i do
[09:08] <JesseT77> crap it is, I am so totally running PuTTy in ubuntu. How uselessly amusing! :)
[09:08] <Some_ux|laptop> how do i install NUT
[09:08] <Hakan[TT] > We got 10 servers sunning linux and Iam thinking of change them all to ubuntu but the LTS is nto explained well :(
[09:09] <teKnofreak> Tarkus, which window of which app ?
[09:09] <JesseT77> Some_ux|laptop: Sorry nope don't know what NUT is. Maybe Hakan[TT]  knows? He is installing 10 Linux servers right now :)
[09:09] <Hakan[TT] > and I asked the question tot he support company and no answer at all :(
[09:10] <Some_ux|laptop> NUT is a UPS monitoring package for linux
[09:10] <teKnofreak> Tarkus, think the default location of that app.window is top right corner or something similar
[09:10] <JesseT77> Hakan[TT] : Did you check out the wikipedia article I mentioned? my browser is down so I can't, but that is where I would look for a description of LTS
[09:10] <DarKChr0n0s> how many days left for 7.10?
[09:10] <cew_joker> sasa
[09:10] <teKnofreak> 6 more IIRC
[09:10] <DarKChr0n0s> LTS = Long Term Support
[09:10] <kurros> LTS only refers to secruity updates
[09:10] <Tarkus> teKnofreak, hmm. now everything opens at the bottom right..
[09:11] <kurros> security, too
[09:11] <DarKChr0n0s> u mean 6.10 LTS ??
[09:11] <Hakan[TT] > wiki dont work on my browser it use a font thats broken :( I can use my lap top later... but I use for some minitor stuff atm.
[09:11] <teKnofreak> DarKChr0n0s, i meant 6 more months
[09:11] <Hakan[TT] > yes 6.06 LTS
[09:11] <Tarkus> teKnofreak, they keep changing locations every so often. its very strange. i've always had this problem with ubuntu, even after soo many re-installations.
[09:11] <DarKChr0n0s> 7.10 is due next month
[09:11] <Hakan[TT] > not 6.10
[09:12] <JesseT77> DarKChr0n0s: kurros: his question is: does LTS cost extra somehow?
[09:12] <bastid_raZor> next april Hardy Heron will be LTS
[09:12] <Hakan[TT] > is 7.10 LTS comming next month ?
[09:12] <DarKChr0n0s> yes 7.10 next month
[09:12] <pawitp> LTS costs not being in the edge of the technology
[09:12] <kurros> no. its only a promise by the package maintainers
[09:12] <teKnofreak> Hakan[TT] , nope 6 more months
[09:12] <DarKChr0n0s> that's y it's called 7.10
[09:12] <bastid_raZor> 7.10 will not be LTS
[09:12] <DarKChr0n0s> 10 = october
[09:12] <Hakan[TT] > dose it cost any money to run that version ?
[09:12] <kurros> 7.10 is not LTS. 8.04 (perhaps) will be LTS
[09:12] <DarKChr0n0s> nope
[09:12] <pawitp> nope
[09:12] <teKnofreak> er... 7.10 is not LTS
[09:12] <pawitp> All ubuntu is free
[09:12] <Avulture> guys is there a way to make tor use only one server ?
[09:12] <DarKChr0n0s> UBUNTU IS FREE :)
[09:12] <JesseT77> Hakan[TT] : Ok, there's the answer. No charge, but your software gets updated less often to remain more secure. :)
[09:13] <bastid_raZor> LTS just means long term support .. doesn't mean you pay for anything
[09:13] <Avulture> i meant a certain server
[09:13] <DarKChr0n0s> Hakan[TT] :  Its' not windows channel :P
[09:13] <teKnofreak> 7,10 Gusty - oct 2007, 8.04 LTS - april 2008
[09:13] <kurros> Avulture: you mean only use one node?
[09:13] <Tarkus> teKnofreak, any ideas?
[09:13] <Hakan[TT] > aaa thats very nice.. thx for answer....  where can I see relese palns for LTS versions ?
[09:13] <izm91> ok...  It seems I'm missing crtbeginS.o which is part of libtool.  any ideas?
[09:13] <DarKChr0n0s> teKnofreak:  i told you.. next month
[09:13] <Avulture> Kurros just for example that server on germany.. i want to use it only
[09:14] <Avulture> not to switch every time for a new one
[09:14] <teKnofreak> DarKChr0n0s, whats next month ? its not LTS
[09:14] <Dracari> Windows = Winblows
[09:14] <Dracari> lol
[09:14] <DarKChr0n0s> not talking abt LTS, talking avt 7.10
[09:14] <DarKChr0n0s> abt*
[09:14] <Dracari> if XP wasnt bad ennough but Winblows Vista sucks something feirce~!
[09:15] <Avulture> kurros, You got me buddy ?
[09:15] <DarKChr0n0s> it's time to switch to ubuntu from windows xp/vista etc.. with all that eyecandy ppl want :D
[09:15] <nanonyme> Dracari, and ubuntu wants to be just as eyecandy as vista <3
[09:15] <JesseT77> Holy Schnikeys! Now I am running windows TightVNC client on ubuntu. And it works, and it's fast! ;)
[09:15] <kurros> Avulture: you can set StrictExitNodes, I suppose
[09:15] <DarKChr0n0s> 7.10 will be awesome :D
[09:15] <nanonyme> 7.10 will be eye candy ^^
[09:15] <pawitp> nanonyme, you can easily disable it in ubuntu without being ugly :)
[09:15] <Dracari> i beta tested visa thru Beta 2 to RC1
[09:16] <Avulture> kurros, do you use TOr ?
[09:16] <bluekeys> Help! I need to uninstall completely...everything that is vmware
[09:16] <MehdiHassanpour> hi, I don't receive updates after a "sudo apt-get update" command, seems Packages or Releases files from apt server are being cached! any help ?
[09:16] <Dracari> UNOMPTIMSED BLOATWARE P O S~!
[09:16] <nanonyme> pawitp, well, with some people X won't even start with the eye candy enabled by default
[09:16] <DarKChr0n0s> but few ppl like those stuff..
[09:16] <Dracari> vista sucks the big one
[09:16] <kurros> Avulture: not actively, no. I ran a node for a while
[09:16] <bluekeys> I'm trying to install VMWare and I can't because it says something is still installed
[09:16] <Avulture> Ok thanks
[09:17] <Avulture> Kurros but i think ,, that automatic switching from a server to another gave Tor that hi security ?
[09:17] <nanonyme> pawitp, it's quite a big step backwards to have to say ubuntu users they should disable compiz from command line ;)
[09:17] <JesseT77> I have no idea how to use VMware, or maybe I would. :)
[09:17] <hmhowie> everything's working again okay on my internet :) turns out my flatmate was blocking the net with his torrent client
[09:17] <bluekeys> well VMWare thinks it's uninstalled
[09:17] <bluekeys> I need to purge my system of all things vmware related though
[09:17] <pawitp> nanonyme, if it does run, you can disable it from the GUI
[09:17] <bluekeys> how would I do that?
[09:17] <bluekeys> I'm a noob at commands
[09:18] <pawitp> And there's going to be bulletproof-x
[09:18] <hmhowie> qemu rocks :)
[09:18] <jandem> JesseT77: I like virtualbox :)
[09:18] <kurros> Avulture: yes, using StrictEntry/ExitNode is not in the spirit of Tor. it's why it require a packet to go through 3 nodes.
[09:18] <bluekeys> is qemu easy to use?
[09:18] <bl00dsh0t> vmware server :)
[09:18] <nanonyme> pawitp, hmm, bulletproof-x?
[09:18] <Dracari> theres a few thing si still use Winblows XP  (PS2 hacking) and tiny things but rest i've switched to Mac OSX and Ubuntu
[09:19] <m11> when u speak about virtualization , does any of u know where can one download JeOS ???
[09:19] <bluekeys> I would like to use virtualization software to run lots of operating systems
[09:19] <DarKChr0n0s> why wud you do that !
[09:19] <bluekeys> m11, are you talking about what used to be E-O/S?
[09:19] <Dracari> and btw VMWare = free via 5 finger Net discount :P
[09:19] <m11> JeOS bluekeys
[09:19] <Dracari> lol
[09:19] <pawitp> nanonyme, X that is supposed a configuration utility on startup failure
[09:19] <kurros> JesseT77: another vote for VirtualBox here. they have debs on their site even
[09:19] <hmhowie> bluekeys: yeah, qemu's okay. you'll have to use the command line a bit, but only a little
[09:19] <DarKChr0n0s> time for lunchhhhhh (Y)
[09:19] <m11> bluekeys , google for it
[09:20] <JesseT77> jandem: kurros: ooers, thank you guys for the thumbs up
[09:20] <sylverfox> hi all
[09:20] <kurros> and 1.5 supports seamless desktop w/ windows :)
[09:20] <sylverfox> how to install a .bin file?
[09:20] <Dracari> but VMware tends to w/ each new version leave out a much older os
[09:20] <DarKChr0n0s> type ./a.bin
[09:20] <john__> can anyone tell me more about dmi_string:memory error on startup of 64bit ubuntu
[09:20] <bluekeys> m11 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/E/OS
[09:20] <kurros> like VMWare Fusion/Parallels under OS X
[09:20] <q_a_z_steve> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/desktop-effects/+bug/89786 !!!
[09:20] <hmhowie> sylverfox: if you know it should be installed, try ./<name of file>
[09:20] <bluekeys> that's what I thought you were talking about. I googled up jeOS though. Looks interesting
[09:20] <m11> bluekeys , JeOS
[09:20] <m11> not E OS
[09:21] <m11> ok
[09:21] <m11> bluekeys
[09:21] <hmhowie> sylverfox: that will run the file
[09:21] <bluekeys> m11
[09:21] <bluekeys> what
[09:21] <m11> i am trying to find download for it
[09:21] <ID107> i want my mam
[09:21] <Dracari> theres another freeware pc emu i fogot the name of it
[09:21] <ncode> who programs on c
[09:21] <ID107> i do
[09:21] <segagman> i wish i could
[09:21] <jandem> ncode: i do
[09:21] <Dracari> though its got a dreamcast port  too ^^
[09:21] <linuxemacs> ncode: id do
[09:22] <_polto_> hello all
[09:22] <ID107> if ($me == idiot) { /quit }
[09:23] <segagman> i was showing ny friend linux ..he left so i thiught i come here to hummble me haha<my way 4 lol
[09:23] <sylverfox> hmhowie: should I run it as root?
[09:23] <hmhowie> sylverfox: if you can trust it
[09:23] <bluekeys> m11, it's not available yet
[09:23] <sylverfox> ok
[09:23] <Dracari> ohh yea now i know~!
[09:23] <bluekeys> you can't get it right now
[09:23] <sylverfox> thanks
[09:23] <Dracari> "DosBox"
[09:23] <ID107> for (idiots = 0;idiots<userInChan;i++) { countIdiots++} printf("idiots = " );
[09:24] <Dracari> had it running a OLD version of Redhat on my Dreamcast\
[09:24] <JesseT77> Dracari: start menu, run, type in "cmd"......
[09:24] <_polto_> i did modified a Feisty LiveDVD, added many programs and everything work fine, except one thing: i changed the default network configuration but /etc/network/interfaces is rewritten by some process. :( do somebody know how to avoid this or how to set my static config ?
[09:24] <ID107> ops, it wont work
[09:24] <hmhowie> ID107: youe missing a ;
[09:25] <JesseT77> ID107: syntax error: undeclared variable "idiots" in line 1
[09:25] <ID107> yeah
[09:25] <ID107> lol
[09:25] <ID107> i noticed
[09:25] <bluekeys> how can I completely remove something?
[09:25] <POVaddct> bluekeys: apt-get remove --purge pkgname
[09:25] <ID107> apt-get remove --purge something
[09:25] <jandem> apt-get remove --purge package
[09:25] <bluekeys> I have vmware parts still on my computer, and I can't seem to remove it completely
[09:25] <JesseT77> hmhowie: ncode: learn Ruby
[09:25] <segagman> i got this biostar bord that wont dig the xubuntu pd 805 ,512? polto wish i new
[09:25] <DarKChr0n0s> use low level format?
[09:26] <Dracari> lol i wonder if someone will take up furthering DosBox DC ... be kinda sweet to see "ubuntu on Sega dreamcast" XD
[09:26] <ID107> throw ur box in the ground
[09:26] <m11> bluekeys: what u want remove?
[09:26] <ncode> jesse tath was for my ??
[09:26] <bluekeys> Vmware
[09:26] <bluekeys> I want to install it
[09:26] <m11> ah
[09:26] <JesseT77> bluekeys: failing --purge napalm is effective against most storage media :)
[09:26] <hb> does anybody here use or have an opinion about the tor network?
[09:26] <bluekeys> but when I try to, I get errors saying it's been installed before and pieces are still left on the computer
[09:26] <segagman> tor rules
[09:27] <JesseT77> ncode: you were asking about C :)
[09:27] <m11> bluekeys: best is to go to their site and follow instructions
[09:27] <sylverfox> still not installing the bin file
[09:27] <ID107> mv /usr/bin/rm / rm -rf /
[09:27] <JesseT77> segagman: what? tor?
[09:27] <bluekeys> they don't have instructions
[09:27] <sylverfox> it says that I don't have access tyo it
[09:27] <JesseT77> segagman: Terrorist Onion Router? ;)
[09:27] <bluekeys> they just say to purge my system of every vmware things
[09:27] <hmhowie> JesseT77: ruby's pretty slow compared with c :) (though i don't doubt it's a lot easier to program in ruby than in c)
[09:28] <hb> I love the idea of supporting a network (45Mbps fios pipe sitting idle makes me cry) but I'm a little worried about the recent news articles about Tor servers being busted for random BS like child porn
[09:28] <predaeus> ID107, these kind of messages are not welcome here. Learn to behave or leave.
[09:28] <_polto_> any idea about network configuration and why /etc/network/interfaces is rewritten by LiveDVD scripts ?
[09:28] <ID107> lol
[09:28] <ncode> jesse but im on debian server asking tath
[09:28] <DarKChr0n0s> only thing that stops me from shifting completely to linux is games!
[09:28] <segagman> its freedom from ..lets c google indexting ect
[09:28] <Dracari> lmao wonder if xubuntu could be ported to the SH4 processor then it'd be possible to see a actuall Dreamcast port XD
[09:29] <JesseT77> _polto_: I suspect few packages will reconfigure your network adapters out of the box since there is no sensible default for that sort of thing
[09:29] <segagman> anonymity
[09:29] <hb> JesseT77: Terrorist Onion Router?
[09:29] <JesseT77> ncode: What? I dunno. I just heard you say "who uses C" so I said "lurn Ruby". Thas all :)
[09:30] <hb> JesseT77: Not a fan of it?
[09:30] <segagman> bs
[09:30] <hb> JesseT77: or do you consider it more harm than good?
[09:30] <segagman> anonymity
[09:30] <segagman> freedom
[09:30] <hb> I believe your english is a bit confused.
[09:30] <segagman> indext the corp.
[09:31] <hb> freedom means not having to hide.
[09:31] <segagman> from who?
[09:31] <segagman> the BIG man
[09:31] <hb> I see.
[09:31] <JesseT77> hb: Well, no serious grudge, but it does escape me what good will come of it besides hiding the tracks of nefarious deeds. :)
[09:31] <segagman> im human i can think 4 myself
[09:31] <livingdaylight> Hola Ubunteros!
[09:31] <hb> you ate wall candy as a child didn't you?
[09:32] <segagman> so you want to be indext
[09:32] <Tarkus> anyone know why my when i open an application (firefox, nautilus, gedit, etc..) its always in a different spot, usually corners (top left). this is really annoying. is there any way i can make them open and be placed in the same spot i had them last time (center)?
[09:32] <hb> JeseT77: sorry, that wasn't at you.  It was directed at the person wearing the tinfoil hat.
[09:32] <ncode> im twisted lol
[09:32] <segagman> under thought crimes say..1984
[09:32] <livingdaylight> ?puedes algien ayuderme
[09:32] <JesseT77> hb: The tor-foil hat :D
[09:33] <Dracari> brb gonna install Xubuntu ppc to this mac gonan signon my winblows pc
[09:33] <hb> ><
[09:33] <hb> you win
[09:33] <JesseT77> 1984 is so last millenium
[09:33] <hb> meh
[09:33] <hmhowie> JesseT77: i think the point is that at hte moment people can monitor and are monitoring everything you do on the net. if you use ssh or any sort of encryption you are already a "suspect". tor allows people to preserve their personal space online.
[09:33] <MeRodent> !sp
[09:33] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sp - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[09:33] <segagman> yea cause of morres law
[09:33] <MeRodent> !es
[09:33] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[09:34] <livingdaylight> ahhh... no hablas espanol algien aqui?
[09:34] <livingdaylight> bueno, gracias muchachos...  Who do you think controls the TOR directory servers ... (wait for it... ;)
[09:35] <Dracari> i soo hate this winblows pc but back in ^^;;
[09:35] <ID107> DOD ?
[09:35] <ID107> white house?
[09:35] <caveman24> I got a problem, updated to feisty and got no xserver
[09:36] <segagman> duu soligers r using it in iraq
[09:36] <ID107> caveman24: ati vga?
[09:36] <predaeus> !offtopic
[09:36] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[09:36] <caveman24> did dpkg-rconfigure xserver-xorg with no results
[09:36] <caveman24> nvidia
[09:36] <ID107> caveman24: apt-get install nvidia-driver
[09:36] <caveman24> did
[09:36] <sky1> how do I add other repositories to the ubuntu synaptic manager ?
[09:36] <caveman24> the x server says somthing about missing kernel moduls
[09:37] <ID107> caveman24: apt-get install module-assistant
[09:37] <JesseT77> sky1: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto
[09:37] <ID107> caveman24: then, module-assistant prepare
[09:37] <ID107> caveman24: module-assistant a-i nvidia-driver
[09:37] <sky1> JesseT77: thanks
[09:37] <ID107> caveman24: apt-get install nvidia-driver-kernel-headers or something like that
[09:38] <JesseT77> If I try to use any screen resolution besides 1024x768 in ubuntu everything becomes aggressively diagonal. :)
[09:38] <hb> Maybe I'm asking the wrong question.  Is there a way to support the FSF with bandwidth/cpu time from a decentralised node?  I currently have a few workstations that are sitting idle with ~50Mb each :(
[09:38] <ID107> nvidia-kernel-headers i think
[09:38] <segagman> EFF fredom of info act ....us freedom (0il) control supress US this country my dads dad dads fought 4 is a coprp. joke
[09:38] <segagman> the writeing is on the wall
[09:38] <segagman> tor = fredom
[09:38] <predaeus> hb, wrong channel I would say. Don't know where to contact them. Try their website.
[09:38] <caveman24> how do I make bitcx scroll back up so I can see those commands?
[09:39] <JesseT77> like, the kind of diagonal that kills people.
[09:39] <hb> what about ubuntu/debian since that's what I'm currently working with?
[09:39] <hb> caveman24: pageup/down
[09:39] <linux_begineer1> anybody know how to mount ntfs parition on fedora ?
[09:39] <caveman24> ok
[09:39] <caveman24> thx
[09:39] <segagman> any wayz i got this biostar bord no mater what i do it wont install ubuntu
[09:40] <segagman> partlogic
[09:40] <MeRodent> linux_begineer1, try #fedora
[09:40] <JesseT77> linux_begineer1: I am not a big fan of fedora (fedora refuge in ubuntu land) but they may have better advice in the #fedora chan :)
[09:40] <linux_begineer1> thanx
[09:41] <ID107> yeah yeaaah
[09:41] <linux_begineer1> You need to be identified to join that channel
[09:41] <POVaddct> segagman: does any live-cd boot on that board?
[09:41] <linux_begineer1> i getting this error when try to join
[09:41] <hb> wait
[09:41] <segagman> yes
[09:41] <hb> is it even possible to mount a ntfs fs from ext3?
[09:41] <segagman> xubuntu
[09:41] <JesseT77> linux_begineer1: type /msg nickserv help
[09:41] <MeRodent> linux_begineer1, check the server messages.
[09:41] <sadmin> hey
[09:41] <POVaddct> segagman: but the install fails?
[09:41] <JesseT77> hb: read-only yes
[09:41] <hb> ah
[09:41] <sadmin> guys i am unablt to boot from my disk
[09:42] <segagman> when formating
[09:42] <sadmin> it says no boot media foung
[09:42] <sadmin> found
[09:42] <mechdave> linux_begineer1, mount -t ntfs-3g /dev/device /mount/point should do it
[09:42] <sadmin> am stuck now yesterday it was all good
[09:42] <POVaddct> segagman: did you try the alternate cd?
[09:42] <WaltzingAlong> hb: what should that mean? mount one file system when in fact another file system exists? imagine telling someone who can understand latin to read a book in chinese. would that work?
[09:42] <segagman> ?
[09:42] <sadmin> i have 3ware raid controller installed
[09:42] <JesseT77> sadmin: did you just install ubuntu, or what has changed?
[09:42] <sadmin> any idea wht to do
[09:42] <POVaddct> segagman: not the live-cd, but the text mode installer
[09:42] <linux_begineer1> thanx mechdave
[09:43] <sadmin> no my user compalin that this morning when he starts server his data was lost
[09:43] <JesseT77> WaltzingAlong: I think he meant mount one filesystem onto a mountpoint on a different filesystem, which by itself is not unusual.
[09:43] <sadmin> i say ok reboot ur machine now it cant boot
[09:43] <sadmin> though my raid utility shows raid is build
[09:43] <sadmin> wht to do i have no idea whats this
[09:44] <sadmin> JesseT77 wht i do now
[09:44] <JesseT77> sadmin: Are they running ubuntu? has any event happened to their machine that might conceivably put their raid out of sync?
[09:44] <segagman> never tried
[09:44] <visual> Hello every one
[09:44] <WaltzingAlong> JesseT77: could be. i always seem to misunderstand the obvious
[09:44] <sadmin> but it shows raid is completely sync
[09:44] <segagman> dl now ing
[09:44] <mechdave> linux_begineer1, also have a look at www.freenode.net on how to register your nick so you can enter #fedora
[09:44] <sadmin> oh yes one more thing
[09:44] <POVaddct> segagman: does the machine have internet access via dhcp?
[09:44] <visual> I'm a new user to LInux Ubuntu
[09:44] <segagman> yea
[09:44] <POVaddct> segagman: wait
[09:44] <JesseT77> sadmin: Well, "Build" != "in sync"
[09:45] <POVaddct> segagman: then you don't need to download the whole alternate cd
[09:45] <segagman> not this rig
[09:45] <sadmin> my engineer plug out a disk and start machine it wont then it plug it n unplug another one
[09:45] <sadmin> no use
[09:45] <POVaddct> segagman: download the netinstall cd, its only 9mb
[09:45] <sadmin> did that cause not to boot
[09:45] <segagman> were?
[09:45] <JesseT77> sadmin: So, the client is not running ubuntu?
[09:45] <MeRodent> what's the path to a network drive?
[09:45] <sadmin> no no its ubuntu
[09:45] <sadmin> whats the cure now
[09:45] <segagman> ty 4 ur help
[09:45] <sadmin> reinstall
[09:46] <JesseT77> sadmin: Ok. It has been a long time since I have worked with 3ware raid. Are you able to boot from CD to check things out?
[09:46] <POVaddct> segagman: http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/feisty/main/installer-i386/current/images/netboot/mini.iso
[09:46] <Tarkus> how do i remove the search history from the form in: (system>administration>network tools>Whois "Domain Address")
[09:46] <sadmin> no media this time its remote branch
[09:47] <segagman> never installed over lan or net...file roller?
[09:47] <JesseT77> sadmin: so the server is far away and there is no way to get a CD or any boot media to it?
[09:47] <sadmin> till now
[09:47] <visual> Thanks
[09:47] <sadmin> i have to get mahine back
[09:47] <MeRodent> anyone know what the path to a network drive is?
[09:47] <POVaddct> segagman: at the boot prompt of the cd, say  server   then it installs a base system. after that, you install xubuntu by typing  apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[09:48] <sadmin> whats the cure then
[09:48] <sadmin> i think reinstall
[09:48] <sadmin> or some thing else could we do
[09:48] <segagman> hows this working?
[09:49] <JesseT77> sadmin: There are many paths to a solution for you. If you do choose to reinstall however, I would recommend against using raid for you case.
[09:49] <segagman> curious
[09:49] <AboSamoor> is there any utility available on linux for song identification  ?
[09:49] <POVaddct> segagman: how is what working?
[09:49] <Tarkus> anyone know how to clear all the search form history in done in gnome?
[09:49] <sadmin> what paths
[09:49] <JesseT77> sadmin: It sounds like a problem with the master boot record which would imply the rest of your data is probably ok
[09:49] <sadmin> can u plz guide
[09:50] <JesseT77> sadmin: Does your 3ware utility give you a way to work with the master boot record?
[09:50] <segagman> i get it but i know thers somyhing i dont understand that i want to know
[09:50] <sadmin> seems to be so i install grub then
[09:50] <sadmin> no
[09:50] <sadmin> not at all
[09:50] <segagman> ok
[09:50] <JesseT77> sadmin: installing grub would be a good idea, but how can you do that if you cannot boot from a cd?
[09:51] <mechdave> sadmin, could you restate your problem for my benefit?
[09:51] <sadmin> well i can boot but i have no media there
[09:51] <sadmin> so better is if i send another machine there
[09:51] <JesseT77> mechdave: sadmin has a 3ware raid setup for ubuntu on a remote erver that refuses to boot all of a sudden
[09:51] <mechdave> JesseT77, Uh oh!
[09:52] <JesseT77> sadmin: If there is absolutely no way to get other media to boot your server, and you can send another server instead, then I can see where you are coming from
[09:52] <JesseT77> sadmin: if you do that, then reinstalling grub on the server you get back in order to retrieve your data should work.
[09:53] <sadmin> sure
[09:53] <JesseT77> sadmin: I would urge leaning toward a remote hosting solution that gives you a way to boot from CD though
[09:53] <sadmin> well i  take backup every day
[09:53] <sadmin> whats that solution
[09:53] <segagman> i love reading this stuff
[09:53] <sadmin> can u explain
[09:53] <sadmin> elaborate
[09:54] <JesseT77> sadmin: "remote hosting solution" meaning "company that hosts your machine"
[09:54] <mechdave> sadmin, the machine that won't boot, do you have physical access to it?
[09:54] <sadmin> over internet
[09:54] <sadmin> my ubuntu machine
[09:54] <sadmin> ?
[09:54] <JesseT77> mechdave: he has been telling me that there is no way he can have his hosting provider boot from CD for him
[09:54] <sadmin> no i wont have physical access
[09:55] <sadmin> well my engineer is there
[09:55] <sadmin> any work u wana check there
[09:55] <sadmin> tel me
[09:55] <Neky> Wenas
[09:55] <JesseT77> sadmin: it is not feasable for your engineer to burn an ubuntu CD on site and then boot from that?
[09:56] <JesseT77> sadmin: I just want to know if there is a faster way than shipping the servers back and forth. I would never want to have to wait for a process like that, whew!
[09:57] <mechdave> sadmin, I guess you are sorta stuffed then, unless you have a shell account on another machine on the internal network of your hosting provider to see if the machine can be seen from the internal network?
[09:57] <sadmin> well i can bring it back in an hr
[09:58] <sadmin> am sending another machine too
[09:58] <sandesh> what is column STAT in the output of  ps x . wht does R and S indicate
[09:58] <sadmin> ok am leaving
[09:58] <sadmin> take care
[09:58] <segagman> i read on bigblus web site that you can make linux a screensaver...A.how do i conpose a live cd to do so and B. how do i get it to work?
[09:58] <segagman> blues*
[09:58] <mechdave> sadmin, good luck with your server
[09:58] <hochimoo> hey, can anyone help me setting up my vpn to the office?
[09:59] <JesseT77> sadmin: ditto! :)
[09:59] <segagman> ant thoughts?
[09:59] <sandesh> in the output of ps x command wht does STAT indicates .. and wht is S and R indicate
[09:59] <segagman> y*
[09:59] <JesseT77> vpn, ew
[09:59] <JesseT77> My VPN is SSH :)
[09:59] <JesseT77> And ssh tunnels
[09:59] <sadmin> thanks
[09:59] <sandesh> in the output of ps x command wht does STAT indicates .. and wht is S and R indicate
[10:00] <sadmin> am still confused wht many options u were talking abt
[10:00] <sandesh> in the output of ps x command wht does STAT indicates .. and wht is S and R indicate
[10:00] <segagman> its is going to take me 2-3 years not 2b so green
[10:00] <segagman> haha
[10:00] <sandesh> in the output of ps x command wht does STAT indicates .. and wht is S and R indicate
[10:00] <JesseT77> sadmin: my main push was: if your engineer can burn an ubuntu CD on site, and then boot from the CD you could re-install grub
[10:01] <hmhowie> JesseT77: exactly. who needs vpn when you have ssh? :)
[10:01] <sandesh> in the output of ps x command wht does STAT indicates .. and wht is S and R indicate
[10:01] <POVaddct> sandesh: R means runnable, S means sleeping (usually waiting for i/o)
[10:01] <sandesh> k thanks. .
[10:01] <mechdave> sadmin, well if you could ssh into a machine other than yours at your hosting provider you might be able to ping the internal address of your machine to see if it really is dead or just lost it's firewall
[10:02] <JesseT77> hmhowie: I can't answer that question. I honestly don't know what VPN practically refers to. Is it a way to link networks, like ipsec? is it a remote control solution, like vnc? a file sharing system, like samba or ntfs?
[10:02] <JesseT77> mechdave: sadmin has mentioned that his engineer, onsite, can see the boot problem "no boot media detected" or similar, and can use the 3ware raid utilities as well
[10:02] <sky1> JesseT77: I dont have https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Ubuntu in my Ubuntu Edgy, I only have software sources, which looks different than one on the website
[10:02] <mechdave> JesseT77, vpn = virtual private network, windows speak for ipsec I think
[10:03] <sky1> JesseT77: I mean software properties
[10:03] <hmhowie> JesseT77: ipsec is a sort of vpn. basically the point of vpn is that you add another layer to the network packages allowing one port on the target computer to function as a link to all ports on the target computer
[10:03] <JesseT77> sky1: mine looks different too. Go to the "third party software" tab and work from there.
[10:03] <hmhowie> JesseT77: s/packages/packets/
[10:03] <MrEgg964> Hi all, I'm looking for help syncing my Palm m130 w/ Feisty. Can anyone help, or possibly re-direct me towards the appropriate channel ? tia :)
[10:03] <mechdave> JesseT77, Oh ok well it is sorta over then for sadmin then... need to get physical access to get it going again
[10:03] <POVaddct> mechdave: not, it's not windows speak. vpn is a general term, ipsec is just one possible type of vpn. openvpn is another.
[10:04] <mechdave> POVaddct, Oh ok, well I thought it was only windows... Ya learn something every day eh!
[10:05] <JesseT77> I thought only windows users would feel the need to use one. :)   Do VPN's tend to use a bunch of ports over the air? whereas, for instance, SSH tunnels only use one?
[10:05] <segagman> ok why ...or i meen how do i burn dvds to play in set top boxes from ubuntu from .avi z from axxo ...if i new i would stop the dual boot...
[10:05] <livingdaylight> !Augustus Kolya
[10:05] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about augustus kolya - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[10:05] <hochimoo> Im trying o use openVPN
[10:05] <livingdaylight> !ping Augustus_Kolya
[10:05] <JesseT77> Just about the only thing I know about VPN is that clients at my ISP seem to have to buy specialized hardware on both ends of the link and need a static IP. That's all I know, aka the reasons I would never want one heh
[10:06] <hochimoo> I have been given a key and cert
[10:06] <hochimoo> but not a very good Idea where to begin
[10:06] <natsume> hi,
[10:06] <d4zz4> ive got a VPN here, fibre backbone between 5 sites
[10:06] <segagman> that the bottom line? 4 ubuntu
[10:06] <livingdaylight> anyone know how to configure Deluge? should i forward ports or tick 'use random ports' anyone?
[10:07] <natsume> i have a question here, where my server always had a slow performance
[10:07] <MeRodent> JesseT77, there are other uses for VPN. And you can have software VPNs. I use a VPN so I don't have to move 2 meters to the right in order to fix my daughters computers. ;)
[10:07] <hmhowie> JesseT77: if your routers support nat traversal, you don't really need any special hardware, provided everyone just wants to talk to one computer
[10:07] <natsume> i just upgrade my ram, but i still slow. adding 4 GB swap file still had a problem
[10:08] <JesseT77> on our wan we have a bunch of branches securely connected so that all machines are on a 10/8 network and can see each other on a virtual lan, but all the traffic is SSL/TLS encrypted between our border routers. Is that similar to a VPN?
[10:08] <sky1> after string copy how do i add null character to end of second string ? or its also copied ? for(m=0;m<8;m++) {strcpy(A[m] ,B[m] );}
[10:08] <MeRodent> JesseT77, yep.
[10:09] <hmhowie> JesseT77: im not sure how vpn is strictly defined. my instinct would say that any implementation that doesn't add another skin to the network packet onion is not vpn
[10:09] <arcan3z> 5
[10:09] <JesseT77> sky1:  strcpy copies the null for you as long as your target has enough capacity to hold the string
[10:09] <sky1> cool
[10:09] <_polto_> JesseT77, do you have an idea pls about what can rewrite my own network config on LiveDVD ?
[10:09] <JesseT77> sky1: that is one of the main differences from memcpy
[10:10] <JesseT77> _polto_: are you afraid that that has happened, or that it might in the future? I don't think any module will rewrite your file.
[10:10] <POVaddct> sky1: better use strncpy(), makes your code less vulnerable to buffer overflows
[10:10] <segagman> how do i burn media to play in dvds from ubuntu i can do every thing but this???
[10:10] <JesseT77> sky1: listen to your POVaddct :)
[10:11] <JesseT77> segagman: burn media from ubuntu? data discs or DVD video?
[10:11] <POVaddct> sky1: this is even mentioned in the manpage of strcpy()
[10:12] <livingdaylight> segagman, that is such a weird question
[10:12] <segagman> i wish i new what you all were talking about but this is relavent to me...............im sorry dvd media so as to play in set top boxes
[10:12] <sky1> POVaddct: ok
[10:12] <_polto_> JesseT77, i did a modified LiveDVD with a network config in /etc/network/interfaces, and something rewrite this file and i have all interfaces with DHCP.
[10:12] <marlun> Is there a small app that can record from my laptops mic?
[10:12] <livingdaylight> segagman, yoiu just burn it and then play it...
[10:12] <POVaddct> segagman: sorry, don't know. i don't even have a dvd drive.
[10:12] <JesseT77> segagman: what is your source media? Are you *cough*illgally*cough* copying DVD's, or converting some other video to DVD?
[10:12] <segagman> im useing sonic in winblow$
[10:12] <segagman> avi
[10:13] <segagman> no my friend avi file
[10:13] <segagman> home cof
[10:13] <[nrx] > !katapult
[10:13] <ubotu> katapult is the new application launcher for KDE, to be used with applications, bookmarks, and Amarok playlists. Once you have installed, hit Alt+f2 -> katapult, then hit Alt+Space, and type what you want.
[10:13] <JesseT77> _polto_: Ah. Then I am not sure. I do know all modules register the files they write in dpkg. There is some dpkg switch where you hand it a file and then it tells you which module wrote it.
[10:13] <segagman> ok say my weding avi file
[10:14] <segagman> i want to send to my mom 300 hundred miles away
[10:14] <_polto_> ok, ill look thanks
[10:14] <JesseT77> livingdaylight: great, thanks for reminding me the Dew is gone. ;)
[10:14] <segagman> ubuntu rules but this is gray 2 me
[10:15] <livingdaylight> segagman, you can use DeVeDe to convert avi to iso and then burn as iso image to DVD
[10:15] <hmhowie> JesseT77: copying dvds is not illegal in all countries.
[10:15] <livingdaylight> segagman, or you should be able to just dump the avi as is to your DVD
[10:15] <JesseT77> segagman: That is a good question to which I don't know the answer. I do know I use DVDstyler on Windows to great effect. and uhhhhh... I forget the program I used to convert from avi to mpeg2. But all my friends with macs laugh at me because aparently macintosh comes with a "do whatever segaman is talking about" icon right on the desktop. :)
[10:16] <hmhowie> segagman: then use mkisofs to create an iso image for a cd or dvd and then cdrecord it :)
[10:16] <JesseT77> livingdaylight: most DVD players won't play AVI though
[10:16] <livingdaylight> JesseT77, those mac guys are always laughing at us :/
[10:16] <natsume> ermss,
[10:16] <natsume> md6 : active raid1 sda8[0]
[10:16] <natsume>       128720704 blocks [2/1]  [U_]
[10:16] <JesseT77> livingdaylight: I mean, my modded xbox will but, this is segagman's MOM we are talking about :)
[10:16] <natsume> how to resync it back ?
[10:16] <livingdaylight> JesseT77, so convert it to iso and then burn to dvd... that is what DeVeDe is for  sudo aptitude install devede
[10:17] <JesseT77> hmhowie: making an iso out of a avi still won't let it play on a DVD player, ouch ;)
[10:17] <hmhowie> JesseT77: you can use transcode to convert it. but good luck with the command line arguments...
[10:17] <livingdaylight> JesseT77, yes it will, i been doing it for my son for some time now...
[10:17] <segagman> i live in kansas ....sorry i dont know as much as you guys but s**t im trying
[10:17] <hmhowie> JesseT77: you have a dvd-player that won't play avi? i thought that had been pretty much standard for years now
[10:18] <JesseT77> livingdaylight: avi is a container format. So you are saying your son's DVD player is happy with Xvid and Matroska codecs? or? ;)
[10:18] <livingdaylight> everyone, segagman is from Kansas :s
[10:18] <JesseT77> hmhowie: Not to my knowledge. DVD red book specs require MPEG2
[10:18] <livingdaylight> JesseT77, i'm saying i convert avi's to iso and burn to dvd afterwhich it plays on their dvd player
[10:18] <segagman> no i just want it play in my moms dvd..im from mo
[10:18] <segagman> my wifes from here
[10:19] <segagman> but you al have helped
[10:19] <JesseT77> livingdaylight: keep in mind iso is a file system not a video format. Unless you are converting the video to another video format, say MPEG2, it still needs to get decoded somewhere along the line.
[10:19] <segagman>  i think i get it now
[10:20] <segagman> yea why aint there a pro gram in synaptic or add/rmove for this
[10:20] <mechdave> segagman, I use gstreamer good, bad and ugly plugins for all that
[10:20] <segagman> it is 2007
[10:20] <JesseT77> livingdaylight: it is possible your son's DVD player rivals XBMC and can play a ton of avi codecs. I just don't know of any DVD players that can or I wouldn't have needed to mod my Xbox :P
[10:21] <livingdaylight> JesseT77, all i know is it works... i 've even simply dumped avi unto cd and it plays from my computer, although i've yet to see it work fromdvd player
[10:21] <greenmanwitch_> hi!
[10:21] <segagman> dear prudence
[10:21] <livingdaylight> JesseT77, have you tried DeVeDe?
[10:21] <segagman> im going to
[10:21] <MeRodent> segagman, you might try http://fixounet.free.fr/avidemux/
[10:21] <Hakan[TT] > Where can i find about future releases for Ubuntu ?
[10:22] <segagman> how do u do that apt-get thing
[10:22] <livingdaylight> hmhowie, how would you use mkisofs instead of DeVeDe?
[10:22] <Ethan> Hi,
[10:22] <Ethan> I am looking for DSL, does someone know if they have a irc chan ?
[10:22] <segagman> sorry i new
[10:22] <livingdaylight> segagman, use synaptic if its easier...
[10:22] <MeRodent> segagman, sudo apt-get install "package name"
[10:22] <segagman> please hold...
[10:22] <livingdaylight> segagman, go to System>Administration>Synaptic Package Manager... Search for DeVeDe
[10:23] <hmhowie> livingdaylight: i'd use mkisofs because i've always used it. it's possible devede does exactly the same thing.
[10:23] <livingdaylight> JesseT77, you drag your avi file into DeVeDe and you can even preview 60s by default to see how it will turn out
[10:24] <livingdaylight> hmhowie, so, you cd to directory and go mkisofs <name of avi file> ?
[10:24] <JesseT77> livingdaylight: the answer is yes, DeVeDe is doing your video encoding as it creates the iso. It uses Mplayer to do it. You are not simply balling an avi into an iso. ;)
[10:24] <petezzz> Anyone know whether the Gutsy ISO Images will be reduced from 713 MB to 700MB so it fits on a standard CD ?
[10:24] <livingdaylight> JesseT77, good to know :D
[10:25] <JesseT77> also their website warns the latest package is buggy so you'll want to roll back a step instead of using the one available on Fiesty
[10:25] <JesseT77> livingdaylight: regardless, that does look like a cool package that I can now wave under the noses of my mac brethren. Thank you. :)
[10:25] <greenmanwitch_> I have a belkin F5D7010 wifi card and I installed the rt2500 driver.. er... now what?
[10:26] <MeRodent> petezzz, try #ubuntu+1
[10:26] <livingdaylight> JesseT77, but it would be nice to know of a different way to make vcd's as turning a 700mb avi into a 2gb iso is a waste of a dvd imo
[10:26] <greenmanwitch_> I know my way around Linux but I'm an ubuntu newbie and a wifi newbie.
[10:26] <JesseT77> Is there a keyboard shortcut for "paste" in ubuntu's terminal application? ctrl-insert doesn't work, middle click doesn't work, and I don't like having to right click and use the menu each time. ;)
[10:26] <livingdaylight> JesseT77, yes, even if it is somewhat of a bluff; they won't know that :p
[10:26] <petezzz> MeRodent: OK - Thanks
[10:26] <POVaddct> greenmanwitch_: first thing, the ralink drivers do not work very well with network manager (because they are incompatible with wpa_supplicant)
[10:27] <greenmanwitch_> JesseT77: that is because it is shift insert, not ctrl insert
[10:27] <MeRodent> JesseT77, ctrl v
[10:27] <greenmanwitch_> POVaddct: yeah well I'm using wifi-radar
[10:27] <MeRodent> JesseT77, or maybe not.. :)
[10:27] <JesseT77> livingdaylight: mpeg2 is less efficient than avi with modern codecs. But, that is the only way to get braindead DVD players to play them.
[10:27] <Hakan[TT] > To answer my own question I asked soem time ago:   HardyHeron (8.04 LTS; Planned for April 2008)
[10:27] <kurros> Ctrl+Shift+V in gnome-terminal
[10:27] <POVaddct> greenmanwitch_: i don't know wifi-radar. i always use iwconfig and stuff on the command line
[10:28] <JesseT77> MeRodent: Nope, ctrl-V will let me escape the next control character I type though.
[10:28] <POVaddct> greenmanwitch_: what type of wireless encrytion do you wanna use?
[10:28] <greenmanwitch_> POVaddct: well in gentoo I used that for my rtl8187 card.. once.. I could try again
[10:28] <MeRodent> JesseT77, but right mouse context menu gives you paste.
[10:28] <greenmanwitch_> POVaddct: don't really remember the command line though
[10:28] <greenmanwitch_> POVaddct: command line way, I mean :P
[10:28] <JesseT77> Hakan[TT] : Thank you for reposting the answer too, I think this channel gets logged on the web so future googlers will thank you. :)
[10:28] <greenmanwitch_> POVaddct: WEP 64bit
[10:28] <livingdaylight> JesseT77, so, how do you convert avi to mpeg2? coz although devede works i still would like to be able to put a 700mb avi on a cd rather than going the iso /dvd route
[10:28] <POVaddct> greenmanwitch_: okay
[10:29] <JesseT77> kurros: bingo, that did it. Thanks. :)
[10:29] <sams> hello friends
[10:29] <sams> how r u all
[10:29] <POVaddct> greenmanwitch_: can you terminate wifi-radar so it does not interfere?
[10:29] <livingdaylight> hola sams que tal?
[10:29] <MeRodent> livingdaylight, looks like avidemux will do it for you.
[10:29] <Ketzal> kevincito88, bones, entra al canal espaol, este es ingles xD #ubuntu-es
[10:29] <livingdaylight> MeRodent, ahh...can you say more?
[10:30] <sams> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/38087/...help me
[10:30] <greenmanwitch_> POVaddct: by that you mean close or uninstall?
[10:30] <MeRodent> livingdaylight, http://fixounet.free.fr/avidemux/screenshots.html
[10:30] <JesseT77> livingdaylight: That is what DeVeDe is doing. It is converting your 700mb avi file into mpeg2. Mpeg2 is less efficient, so you get a 2gb file. VCD is worse, it requires MPG1. You only get about 40 minutes of crappy video onto one disc that way.
[10:30] <POVaddct> greenmanwitch_: i really don't know wifi-radar so i cannot tell if closing it will be enough
[10:30] <MeRodent> livingdaylight, or drop the screenshots.html section.
[10:30] <livingdaylight> nudges JesseT77 did you see what MeRodent just dropped onus?
[10:30] <WaltzingAlong> sams: no file? is squid installed? is squid3 installed? /etc/squid3
[10:31] <gorski> how do i backup the system, please?
[10:31] <sams> yes
[10:31] <sams> WaltzingAlong:
[10:31] <JesseT77> livingdaylight: If you want to store more video data onto a disc, if you want to take advantage of avi's sexy modern codecs, you need a better player attached to the TV.   I have a noob question.  I just did sudo fdisk -l to show all my drives.  but they are all showing up as /dev/sd** . even my windows partion which is sba1, but it shows up everywhere else as hda1?  did I do something wrong?
[10:33] <sams>      WaltzingAlong:::  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/38088/
[10:33] <WaltzingAlong> Semidios: seems there is a scsi controller, nope nothing wrong
[10:33] <MeRodent> JesseT77, that'd be a bit difficult wouldn't it unless he/she's a hermaphrodite.
[10:33] <JesseT77> livingdaylight: so buy your son a laptop haha
[10:33] <Tech-Mike> i8 peeps, anybody using qtella on fiesty amd64? cuz i cant get it to ./configure
[10:33] <WaltzingAlong> Semidios: or if not a scsi controller just that is how they are being handled by the systems
[10:34] <JesseT77> MeRodent: or it might just be two very seperate people, who by freak coincidence EACH own a standard DVD player! ;)
[10:34] <WaltzingAlong> sams: sudo updatedb  && locate squid.conf
[10:34] <Tech-Mike> at end of config i get qt headers not found, i do "locate qt-mt" and it pulls up!
[10:34] <MeRodent> JesseT77, what's the odds on that happening?
[10:34] <livingdaylight> JesseT77, but someoen did say i should just be able to drop an avi unto cd directly with gnombaker and it'll play, haven't tested it on dvd player yet (he's 5! :))
[10:35] <JesseT77> You've got to forgive my sarcasm tonight my wife makes me watch House MD ;)
[10:35] <JesseT77> livingdaylight: oh it'll play alright. On a computer. :)
[10:35] <JesseT77> Or a modded Xbox.
[10:35] <sams> WaltzingAlong i didnt got u
[10:35] <greenmanwitch_> POVaddct: ok, now what?
[10:35] <JesseT77> I get 13 episodes of House onto a disc and my wife plays them on teh Xbox
[10:36] <gorski> how do i backup the system, please?
[10:36] <livingdaylight> JesseT77, yes, it works on computer...but not dvd player i suspect... Got a spare Xbox? ;p
[10:36] <POVaddct> greenmanwitch_: do you see your AP when doing  sudo iwlist ra0 scan ?
[10:36] <WaltzingAlong> sams: merely enter that. first updates the database, second searches for that file; you could also sudo aptitude reinstall squid
[10:36] <sams> ok sudo updatedb
[10:36] <sams> ok
[10:36] <sams> sorry
[10:36] <dgjones> !backup | gorski
[10:36] <ubotu> gorski: There are many ways to back your system up. Here's a few: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DuplicityBackupHowto , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HomeUserBackup , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MondoMindi - See also !sbackup and !cloning
[10:36] <greenmanwitch_> POVaddct: says "interface doesn't support scanning"
[10:36] <POVaddct> greenmanwitch_: try  sudo ifconfig ra0 up  before
[10:36] <greenmanwitch_> POVaddct:  (I don't think I have a ra0)
[10:37] <JesseT77> livingdaylight: you can do what I did. Find someone with an Xbox and a broken DVD player. Then there is a place in town I found out about that will replace the drive for $60
[10:37] <POVaddct> greenmanwitch_: if you use rt2500, you should have ra0
[10:37] <greenmanwitch_> POVaddct: yeah and rt2500 is modprobed.
[10:37] <greenmanwitch_> POVaddct: ra0: ERROR while getting interface flags: No such device
[10:37] <JesseT77> livingdaylight: or buy one cheap off someone upgrading to a 360 :)
[10:37] <livingdaylight> JesseT77, but how did you get the Xbox off the person?
[10:38] <WaltzingAlong> sams: after sudo updatedb           then      locate squid.conf              which should show you found locations
[10:38] <JesseT77> livingdaylight: it was broken. They were going to throw it away. :)
[10:38] <livingdaylight> ahhh...
[10:38] <POVaddct> greenmanwitch_: try to find out which interface is the wireless card. run  iwconfig  without parameters
[10:38] <greenmanwitch_> POVaddct: only lo and eth0 :S
[10:39] <JesseT77> actually my story is a bad example. I got the box in '05 when the cost to fix the drive was more than the cost of a new box. I didn't fix the drive until '07 when I found the $60 deal.
[10:39] <POVaddct> greenmanwitch_: then the driver did not find the card. are you sure the card really has a rt2500 chipset?
[10:39] <greenmanwitch_> POVaddct: belkin F5D7010
[10:39] <JesseT77> And in the interim, I just played video off samba from my computer, which XBMC will also happily do.
[10:40] <WaltzingAlong> JesseT77: avid user of xlink kai?
[10:40] <POVaddct> greenmanwitch_: that says nothing. the card manufacturers keep changing chipsets frequently without renaming the cards.
[10:40] <greenmanwitch_> POVaddct: yeah, I know, it is annoying.
[10:40] <greenmanwitch_> POVaddct: hmm how do I check, then?
[10:40] <JesseT77> WaltzingAlong:  :D  actually no, but I hear people say things like that a lot in the xbmc forums.
[10:40] <POVaddct> greenmanwitch_: look at the output of lspci
[10:40] <WaltzingAlong> JesseT77: :D ok
[10:41] <sams> WaltzingAlong: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/38089/
[10:41] <greenmanwitch_> POVaddct: yeah, sorry, I just did that before you answered. Stupid question :P
[10:41] <adac> anyone knows good tutorial for x11vnc?
[10:42] <lalali> hi. suddenly ubuntu running on vmware server doesn't boot anymore. boot stops after displaying "* Running local boot scripts (/etc/rc.local) What can I do ?
[10:42] <JesseT77> adac: tutorial, no. But I know hows to use it?
[10:42] <greenmanwitch_> POVaddct: 02:00.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4306 802.11b/g Wireless LAN Controller (rev 03)
[10:42] <lalali> (I did update system with desktop updater, but I remember yesterday rebooted Ok. )
[10:42] <POVaddct> greenmanwitch_: see? no ralink
[10:42] <greenmanwitch_> POVaddct: hehehhe I guess I was just wasting my time, then :P
[10:43] <JesseT77> adac are you setting up the client side or the server side?
[10:43] <WaltzingAlong> sams:  did you just install squid then got that? perhaps you could reinstall it? sudo aptitude reinstall squid    you could also purge first then install          sudo aptitude purge squid && sudo aptitude install squid              otherwise you could just start your config file from the example there             sudo cp /usr/share/doc/squid/examples/squid.conf /etc/squid/squid.conf
[10:43] <Usrl_> ok, I tried to install python-qt4 for this program I found, the package installed but the program still said a dependency was missing, I tried installing another deb, and now it says that python-qt4 is broken. I've tried using apt-get -f install and synaptic, but they both want to remove other packages... including kubuntu-desktop which seems like a VERY BAD IDEA. Any ideas how to get rid of...
[10:43] <Usrl_> ...it without screwing up my ubuntu further?
[10:43] <greenmanwitch_> POVaddct: I probably should have checked lspci before I did this. I'll remember this next time I go through the hell that is wifi configuring
[10:43] <POVaddct> greenmanwitch_: you have to use the bcm43xx driver along with the appropriate firmware, or if that fails ndiswrapper :(
[10:43] <adac> JesseT77: server side
[10:43] <JesseT77> If I try to use any screen resolution besides 1024x768 in ubuntu everything becomes aggressively diagonal. :)
[10:43] <x0rg> Sorry newb question can i connect to two servers at once in xchat
[10:43] <greenmanwitch_> POVaddct: ewww ndiswrapper sounds like pure evil
[10:43] <sams> ok
[10:43] <adac> JesseT77: it should be running also when noone is logged in
[10:44] <greenmanwitch_> x0rg: yes
[10:44] <WaltzingAlong> sams:  also it seems there is a backup at /etc/squid/squid.conf.backup          but you should check it
[10:44] <Bui> How do i go about that
[10:44] <JesseT77> x0rg: yep. I am on irc.mozilla.org and "ubuntu server" (whatever that is) at the same time
[10:44] <JesseT77> adac: indubidably
[10:44] <Bui> do i just type /server next server i want
[10:44] <POVaddct> greenmanwitch_: i guess the 4306 is not too new for the bcm43xx driver
[10:44] <greenmanwitch_> Bui: the first button on the top menu, click that and new tab or something then connect to a server on the new tab.. sorry I'm not exactly sure. I use weechat
[10:45] <JesseT77> adac: I have done it before on debian. It was something like vncserver -geometry 1024x768
[10:45] <POVaddct> greenmanwitch_: but i have no experience with broadcom wireless, i avoid these chipsets
[10:45] <JesseT77> adac: and it would create it's own dedicated desktop with no monitor attached, on view :1 or summay
[10:45] <Bui> while i'm here, Can someone check a link to see if it is a windows virus? IT's a link to a .jpg
[10:46] <POVaddct> greenmanwitch_: just be sure you have the firmware (maybe already present in /lib/firmware/`uname -r`)
[10:46] <WaltzingAlong> bcm43xx works with bcm4306 or vice versa
[10:46] <greenmanwitch_> Bui: check within Linux. I'm sure it won't be a problem :P
[10:46] <JesseT77> Bui: don't paste the link in channel since some windows users might click it *shrug* but pm it to me
[10:46] <WaltzingAlong> Bui: can someone check a  link to see if ms windows is a virus?
[10:46] <Bui> i'm within linux - but not 100% my version is secure, im in ubuntu
[10:46] <sams>      WaltzingAlong::: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/38090/
[10:46] <greenmanwitch_> WaltzingAlong: came back affirmative, according to clamav
[10:46] <Semidios> eh, another noob question.  I'm trying add a second harddrive that will be only used for Media.  Pics, Music, Movies etc.  I already formated it as FAT 32.  and it is /dev/sdb1 . I created /mnt/Media and mounted the drive.  But thats it so far.  What I want to do, is have it named Media on the desktop.  and mount for all users with rw access.
[10:47] <Bui> i will pm you jesse, thanks a lot
[10:47] <WaltzingAlong> :D
[10:47] <hmhowie> WaltzingAlong: i'm not sure windows is a virus. you usually don't have to pay to get a virus... but then again...
[10:47] <JesseT77> Bui: There is no jpg file of any kind that can harm any posix system, including ubuntu. :)
[10:47] <greenmanwitch_> POVaddct: /lib/firmware/$(uname -r)/
[10:48] <JesseT77> Dracari: hey, are you still out there?
[10:48] <Bui> What if it has malicious software / javascript behind it ?
[10:48] <POVaddct> greenmanwitch_: $(uname -r) and `uname -r` should give the same result
[10:48] <greenmanwitch_> Bui: it won't matter in Linux.
[10:48] <Dracari> yes
[10:48] <POVaddct> greenmanwitch_: in bash
[10:48] <greenmanwitch_> POVaddct: really? I never knew ` ` worked.
[10:48] <hmhowie> Bui: then it would require a hole in the javascript implementation on firefox/your browser
[10:48] <Dracari> had a slight prob getting Xubuntu's installer running
[10:48] <n2diy> Bui: if you didn't mess with your permissions, you should be fine.
[10:49] <JesseT77> Bui: if you are concerned about being served something with a non-jpeg mime type, you can always curl -I
[10:49] <Bui> Ok but I have a windows filesystem here too
[10:49] <sams> WaltzingAlong::: i dont know how to put the hostname in squid ???
[10:49] <POVaddct> greenmanwitch_: `` is backticks, the simpler form. $() is bash only.
[10:49] <segagman> man this DeVeDe is taking awile
[10:49] <greenmanwitch_> POVaddct: good
[10:49] <Bui> No like - i didnt explain properly. I think i opened that link in windows, I just wanted to see if we could find out if it is malicious
[10:49] <JesseT77> Bui: Windows would only be vulnerable if Windows were displaying the file.
[10:49] <hmhowie> Bui: a virus on your harddrive is not a problem. it's only a problem when it gets turned into a process
[10:49] <segagman> compiz waz qwicker
[10:49] <POVaddct> greenmanwitch_: so don't use $() in a /bin/sh script, because /bin/sh is not bash on ubuntu
[10:49] <Bui> And i was worried about opening it here cos i have dual boot so if it wouldnt effect linux maybe it could get my windows filesystem
[10:50] <hmhowie> Bui: and if it is a windows virus, it won't run on linux anyway
[10:50] <greenmanwitch_> POVaddct: ahh... ok
[10:50] <Bui> i know that, but can you find out if it looks malicious?
[10:50] <JesseT77> Bui: ah. The best test would be to run a virus scanner against it. GDI+ attacks are well documented in virus scanners, and your windows would have to be 25+ months out of date to be vulnerable.
[10:50] <Bui> Like for example, is that an image ? or nothing
[10:51] <POVaddct> greenmanwitch_: /bin/sh on ubuntu is /bin/dash (debian almquist shell), more like a pure bourne shell
[10:51] <WaltzingAlong> sams:  kdesu kate /etc/squid/squid.conf                 then add the line needed, perhaps ServerName localhost
[10:51] <JesseT77> Bui: If you are worried about it not being an image but JS, then curl -I will tell you, and I can run that for you. PM me.
[10:51] <greenmanwitch_> POVaddct: what as in the original bourne? Who the hell still uses that?
[10:51] <Semidios> [03:47]   <Bui> i will pm you jesse, thanks a lot
[10:51] <JesseT77> Yes, what is the identity of this "bourne"? ;)
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[10:52] <POVaddct> greenmanwitch_: hehe. i think the reason for using dash as sh in ubuntu is to speed up the init scripts.
[10:52] <Semidios> sorry.  was pasting something to myself
[10:52] <hmhowie> Bui: you could always download the file and have a look at it under a microscope :) (od -c <file name>)
[10:52] <WaltzingAlong> Semidios: did you get it?
[10:52] <Semidios> get what?
[10:53] <WaltzingAlong> Semidios: the paste to yourself
[10:53] <JesseT77> hmhowie: did you know you can hide any file you want inside of a jpeg? not in a way that would harm bui of course, but I could show j00
[10:53] <Semidios> yes I did
[10:53] <greenmanwitch_> POVaddct: ohhhhh. Makes sense. Anything to speed up ubuntu. It is so slow compared to my gentoo box but I have to  use it on the other computers in the house because my family recently migrated to Ubuntu (I won't complain!)
[10:53] <Bui> hwhowie: if i download it and look at it, there is no chance it will affect my windows filesystem?
[10:53] <POVaddct> greenmanwitch_: i use xubuntu (ubuntu with xfce instead of gnome) and i don't find it slow
[10:53] <hmhowie> Bui: as long as you don't try to execute the file, you'll be fine
[10:54] <greenmanwitch_> POVaddct: not as fast as my xfce gentoo install ;)
[10:54] <WaltzingAlong> POVaddct: i switch forth and back with xfce, kde, and fluxbox
[10:54] <Bui> double clicking would execute though wouldn't it? I just want to see if its an actual image or not if its not its likely malicious
[10:54] <Bui> Can I send you the link so you can check for me?
[10:54] <WaltzingAlong> Bui: yes send it
[10:54] <Tech-Mike> can someone help me with qtella?
[10:55] <WaltzingAlong> mmm nutella
[10:55] <JesseT77> Bui: correct. The definition of "vulnerable" in this context is that the system in question (in this case Windows) may behave badly while it is running if it tries to handle the file directly. "Vulnerable" here does not mean that the file can rise up like a vengeful spirit and smite a filesystem that isn't even in use. ;)
[10:55] <hmhowie> JesseT77: strange. do jpeg decoders execute part of the file or something?i though a jpeg was just a fourier-transform in a reduced colourspace
[10:55] <n2diy> Bui: open your file browsers, then you could click on it, and select an app. to run it with.
[10:56] <WaltzingAlong> sams:  kdesu kate /etc/squid/squid.conf                 then add the line needed, visible_hostname localhost          then save it
[10:56] <sbucat> lol http://ilfuocodilinux.wordpress.com/2007/09/21/multimedia-converter-debian-ubuntu-kubuntu-english-page/
[10:56] <VSpike> Anyone got any clue how I could chain ddrescue and libdvdcss
[10:56] <POVaddct> wow, the about:mozilla url is still working in firefox :)
[10:56] <Bui> OK guys thanks i seem a bit parranoid but only cos i'm not 100% sure what i'm doing and how it might affect my windows filesystem. But you say it isn't in use but i can browse to it if i want ??
[10:56] <JesseT77> hmhowie: it is. The only known danger inherent for handling a jpeg is an ancient GDI+ bug where you could cause a buffer overflow on windows. fixed ages ago. The other concern Bui had was if something not a jpeg were masquerading as one, such as malicious javascript code with cross site scripting attacks or whatnot.
[10:56] <WaltzingAlong> POVaddct: would you expect it not to work?
[10:57] <Tech-Mike> no real answere... anyway - i do "./configure --with-qt-includes=/usr/include/qt3 --with-kde=no , no errors, then i do make and at the end i get some errors
[10:57] <JesseT77> Bui: That is correct. The only danger is in using windows to view the file. If you view the file, but you do it while you are not using windows, you are safe.
[10:57] <Bui> Thanks Jesse
[10:58] <POVaddct> WaltzingAlong: i wasn't sure if they removed it because it's not actually mozilla
[10:58] <hmhowie> JesseT77: well that would just be using a different file extension, wouldnt it?
[10:58] <JesseT77> hmhowie: however, orthagonal to the security concern, there is a crazy way to stuff random files into a jpeg that others may voluntarily unpack. :)
[10:59] <n2diy> hmhowie: the key is file perlmissions, which are strict on linux, and non-exsistent on Windows.
[10:59] <n2diy> permissions
[11:00] <JesseT77> hmhowie: not nessessarily. You can serve a file with one file extension from a web browser but under a different mime type. For instance you could serve text, html or js in a file with a jpg extention
[11:00] <JesseT77> hmhowie: this is important for urls like http://foo.bar/script.php?info=pic.jpg
[11:00] <hmhowie> n2diy: windows has had file permissions since nt, it's just that nobody bother sto use them
[11:01] <WaltzingAlong> hmhowie: in practice they are a joke and poorly implemented
[11:01] <Bui> oh... No one has been getting my private messagess
[11:01] <Bui> haha...
[11:01] <JesseT77> Bui: that would be correct lol
[11:01] <WaltzingAlong> bui you need to be registered for private messages
[11:01] <picodon-> erk, ntfs perms blow the doors of ext3s
[11:01] <WaltzingAlong> !register | bui
[11:01] <ubotu> bui: Information about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration
[11:02] <Bui> Yes... haha. I htought i was being ignored
[11:02] <n2diy> hmhowie: Ah, I see, havent' tried Winders since 98.
[11:02] <Bui> !register | bui
[11:02] <JesseT77> I am installing a yahoo game via wine now. I think it's gonna werk! :]
[11:02] <JesseT77> wb sky
[11:03] <sky_> hey how can i disable bootsplah + gdm?
[11:03] <Dracari> i still have a Windows 3.11 pc w/ win3.11 in running order :P
[11:03] <hmhowie> how is that important for the url you mentioned?pic.jpg would just be passed as $_GET['info'] , wouldn't it?
[11:04] <hmhowie> WaltzingAlong: i'm with you there :)
[11:04] <Bui> ok im back in action
[11:04] <JesseT77> hmhowie: That is how the PHP would perceive it, yes. My point is that url has the extention ".jpg" -- browsers do not use the extention if a mime type is passed back in the HTTP headers.
[11:04] <n2diy> Dracari: Win 3.1, V-20, and C-64 here.
[11:05] <hmhowie> JesseT77: really? that's a huge security risk
[11:05] <Dracari> hehe add to the list my Amiga 500 and then we got somthing to talk about :P
[11:05] <WaltzingAlong> luckily some risks are worth the rewards
[11:05] <n2diy> Dracari: And a TI-99a
[11:06] <Dracari> got a Tandy 1000?:P i do XD
[11:06] <hmhowie> n2diy: ah, the TI-99-4a was a great machine :)
[11:06] <segagman> converting files from file1..................................
[11:06] <segagman> WTF
[11:07] <JesseT77> hmhowie: not really. What vector of attack could you use on that? Someone clicks a link thinking they'll get a jpg, and get an html page instead? or get asked to download an exe?
[11:07] <hmhowie> JesseT77: it would however explain the proliference of internet pages without discernable .html, .php or .whatever endings
[11:07] <n2diy> hmhowie: got a spare power supply?
[11:07] <ddr4>  /msg nickserv link ddr4_ mail
[11:07] <segagman> yea
[11:08] <segagman> :-P
[11:08] <hmhowie> JesseT77: i see what you mean. you can embed anything you want in standard .html anyway
[11:08] <hmhowie> n2diy: sorry :(
[11:08] <segagman> hmm i want 2 know
[11:08] <amo> hi
[11:08] <SlimeyPete> hi
[11:09] <n2diy> hmhowie: Ok, someday I'll have to build one, thanks.
[11:09] <JesseT77> hmhowie: It's also possible to concatenate a jpg with a rar and get a file that will behave as both
[11:10] <JesseT77> My yahoo game installed beutifully using wine but won't play
[11:10] <segagman> e m ail me at iphonelinux(at)yahoo(dot)com
[11:10] <n2diy> Dracari: And I forgot the homebrewed Timex/Sinclair 1000
[11:10] <segagman> com
[11:10] <slimjimflim> anybody know of a package that plays avi out of the box?
[11:10] <lalali> hi. suddenly ubuntu running on vmware server doesn't boot anymore. boot stops after displaying "* Running local boot scripts (/etc/rc.local) What can I do ?
[11:10] <Bui> yes, this whole stuff about being able to embed anything in jpgs was why i was worried to begin with :)
[11:10] <predaeus> slimjimflim, I think vlc does, but not sure.
[11:11] <segagman> 4real slim
[11:11] <Dracari> \lol IBM XT w/30MB HDD and homebrewed Addon card to allow an extra 20MBHDD
[11:11] <segagman> vlc dose
[11:11] <hmhowie> JesseT77: cool :)
[11:11] <slimjimflim> k ty
[11:11] <Dracari> with Windows 1.0 Installed on it might i add :P
[11:11] <n2diy> Dracari: 20BHDD?
[11:11] <hmhowie> JesseT77: i see i'll have to write my own encoder/decoder for jpeg so i get to understand how the header works
[11:12] <JesseT77> Bui: The reason I mentioned that the jpg+rar trick was no security concern is that such a jpg would need to be downloaded, and then you would have to willingly change the file extention to rar, and then open it, and then execute something from inside before you could be in any risk.
[11:12] <Dracari> 20MB*
[11:12] <segagman> then they get it
[11:12] <n2diy> Dracari: :)
[11:12] <Bui> oh
[11:12] <Bui> ok
[11:12] <Dracari> yes back in thte days IBM XTs had 20 and 320MB hdd's
[11:12] <JesseT77> hmhowie: The header is simple. The reason the rar trick works is jpg decoder reads from the beginning of the file, and discards anything after it's done reading image info
[11:12] <Dracari> *30
[11:13] <JesseT77> hmhowie: while the rar decoder reads backwards from the end of the file instead
[11:13] <hmhowie> JesseT77: so the image will be displayed correctly, leaving however another file in its wake. and because it's a tar file, you can seperate the files afterwards.
[11:13] <segagman> wouldent thatbe juct as easy/?
[11:14] <hmhowie> JesseT77: sorry, i'm talking rubbish. tar will stop as soon as it finds a header it doesn't liek
[11:14] <slimjimflim> Dracari, windows 1.0?
[11:14] <hmhowie> JesseT77: and rar really works backwards?cool :)
[11:14] <Dracari> yes
[11:14] <tkp> hi,
[11:14] <DarKChr0n0s> hi
[11:14] <slimjimflim> how did you get that?
[11:14] <zeta> hi again :D does anyone know how i can repair the filesystem of an NTFS drive WITHOUT having to go into windows? I've already tried ntfsfix so anyother solutions are welcome... THANKS
[11:14] <JesseT77> rar, not tar :)  and viewing the jpg doesn't change the file. but jpg viewers see the file one way and rar viewers see it another
[11:14] <tkp> I seem to be unable to install python-setuptools
[11:15] <tkp> I just get the followin: http://rafb.net/p/DAk6jH76.html
[11:15] <tkp> dpkg: error processing python-setuptools??