[00:00] <linuxuz3r> ntfs is healthy
[00:00] <linuxuz3r> mesa utils ok
[00:02] <linuxuz3r> also when im in gnome 3 2d i the taskbar and menu bar of my second monitor gets transfered to the primary display how do i move it to the secondary display
[00:03] <Atranimus> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vzlljWKun_s
[00:04] <xand_> hi all
[00:05] <mwilliams1220> Is there a way to make a program start from the cl minimized?
[00:06] <sdz> How can I specify the monitor for initial kernel output, framebuffer, console, etc?  (fyi: X works fine)
[00:10] <coldpizza72i> Could someone help me setup an nfs server... Im having many problems
[00:10] <zykotick9> sdz: are your VT consoles (ctrl-alt F1-F6) mirrored the same on all your monitors or only on 1?   (that's how mine are right now - mirrored, each showing the login window. different distro/release then you though).  if you get an answer, i'd please share with the channel ;)
[00:11] <linuxuz3r> also when im in gnome 3 2d i the taskbar and menu bar of my second monitor gets transfered to the primary display how do i move it to the secondary display
[00:11] <l3d> was wondering if there is a way to turn off the hold the super key done popup cheatsheet?
[00:12] <davidl> <LookupTable cacheSize="1000" commitInterval="100" fileURL="${DATATMP_DIR}/INT001_Poc_Extra_lookup" id="LookupTable4" key="org_id;poc_type" metadata="Metadata14" name="POC_EXTRA_LOOKUP" pageSize="16" type="persistentLookup"/>
[00:12] <davidl> (sorry)
[00:12] <davidl> I just upgraded Jaunty to Lucid on a Compaq Presario F700 laptop,  now the keyboard & mouse don't work with the X server ... any suggestions?
[00:14] <davidl> (that is,  I can SSH in fine,  and if I shut down gdm/kdm I can log in at the console,  but i can't log in via either gdm or kdm becuase me mouse and keyboard don't do anything)
[00:14] <sdz> zykotick9: On bootup and the console (tty's), I only get output on my smaller monitor.  I want it on my other monitor.  I have no issues with monitors in X.
[00:15] <zykotick9> davidl: good luck.  you're gonna need it.  upgrading an EOL distro to 10.04 (which i doubt many in this channel run anymore) seems very outdated for #ubuntu
[00:15] <zykotick9> sdz: ya i recall i only see initial boot on 1 monitor, also.  but my VTs are fine.  i don't know how to switch it ;)  good luck man!
[00:15] <eniac>  you could try startx
[00:16] <eniac> start "X Server"
[00:16] <zykotick9> to whomever eniac was talking to: using "sudo service lightdm start" might also be helpful to try.
[00:17] <mwilliams1220> command to start a window minimized?
[00:21] <dijonyummy> is there an easy way to stop unbuntu 12.04 from restting my /etc/resolv.conf?
[00:21] <zykotick9> dijonyummy: resolv.conf is deprecated.  move on.
[00:22] <zykotick9> dijonyummy: i think most stuff ends up in /etc/network/interfaces now... i don't know the details (or use N-M myself)
[00:22] <histo> How do I find out what DNS servers i'm using on my wireless connection?
[00:23] <ring1> ls
[00:23] <ring1> wrong window :)
[00:24] <AaronCampbell> How can you type extended unicode characters in Ubuntu/Unity?  In Windows I could do a multiplication symbol with <alt>+2015
[00:24] <rexis> hey does anyone else always get in youtube the error: and error occured, please try again later
[00:24] <ActionParsnip> rexis: do other flash sites work ok?
[00:25] <ActionParsnip> rexis: what browsers have you tried?
[00:25] <rexis> ActionParsnip: Mozila, Chrome. Ubuntu and Linux mint, not really any other flash sites. I think pandora is flash right? I use that. Do you know any other flash site to test?
[00:26] <miceiken> http://paste2.org/p/2130649 what do i do ?
[00:26] <ActionParsnip> rexis: mozilla isn't a browser, firefox is the browser made by mozilla
[00:26] <dijonyummy> zykotick9, so where would i put stuff like domain, search, nameserver that i used to put in resolv.conf? i cant find doc where to put that in /etc/network/interfaces
[00:26] <trism> AaronCampbell: ctrl+shift+U type the numbers then enter
[00:26] <rexis> ActionParsnip: yea firefox
[00:26] <AaronCampbell> trism: I think I just figured it out.  2015 gave the wrong symbol...it expects hex not dex
[00:27] <AaronCampbell> s/dex/dec/
[00:27] <ActionParsnip> rexis: can you give a pastebin of:  lsb_release -a; uname -a; dpkg -l | egrep 'flash|gnash|swf|spark'
[00:27] <rexis> ActionParsnip: i can keep refreshjing and they eventually work
[00:27] <davidl> miceiken:  try "cp -a",  then "rm -r" when you know the data is safe in the other place
[00:27] <histo> Does anyone know how to check which dns servers network-manager is pulling from my dhcp router?
[00:27] <AaronCampbell> So I guess <ctrl>+<shift>+U, 00d7, <enter>
[00:27] <miceiken> what is the default chmod? 644?
[00:28] <trism> AaronCampbell: ahh yes, didn't notice the multiplication symbol part
[00:28] <AaronCampbell> trism: Now I just have to re-learn all the codes :|
[00:28] <AaronCampbell> Thanks for your help
[00:29] <miceiken> david_, same args? /from/* /to/
[00:31] <miceiken> davidl, think i broke the permissions :p miceiken@celeste:~$ cp -a /var/torrents/* /media/external/TV\ Shows/
[00:31] <miceiken> cp: cannot stat `/var/torrents/Boardwalk Empire/season02.tbn': Permission denied
[00:32]  * keyzs http://youtu.be/QGqzSjC6n6o
[00:35] <mark_peters> Hello. What is the difference between "none /tmp tmpfs" and "tmpfs /tmp tmpfs" in /etc/fstab ?
[00:35] <zykotick9> dijonyummy: histo1 (lol same issue really) sorry I only know/use the old method, using /etc/resolv.conf.  but 12.04 uses a different method!  i don't know it.
[00:39] <sdz> fyi.. console (VT) output to wrong monitor fixed... swapped cables to video card
[00:41] <mgalas> i'm getting an error 401 trying to install a software centre purchase
[00:41] <mgalas> any ideas???
[00:45] <TJ-> mgalas: Yes, I posted a bug-fix for it, let me look
[00:45] <miceiken> any way to check if my motherboard has usb 1.1 or 2.0 through cli?
[00:47] <zykotick9> sdz: ;) that wasn't the s/w fix i was hoping for - but can't argue with the results.  nice.
[00:48] <linuxuz3r_> hi how do i fix this http://i.imgur.com/j0vTV.jpg
[00:48] <linuxuz3r_> 2 menubar 2 taskbar
[00:48] <linuxuz3r_> i just want 1 menubar 1 taskbar
[00:49] <frooh> so... I just rebooted my computer and X11 won't start at all
[00:49] <frooh> I looked at the failsafe log and it complains that there are no monitors with good configs
[00:49] <frooh> last time this happened I reinstalled completely and it fixed it
[00:49] <frooh> is there something less hardcore I can do to fix it?
[00:49] <miceiken> how do i fix folder permissions for my suer
[00:49] <miceiken> user
[00:49] <doctari> join #backtrack-linux
[00:49] <Dr_willis> !permissions | miceiken
[00:50] <Dr_willis> miceiken,  give the channel details of whats wrong exactly. and they may know  a specific command/fix for you
[00:50] <frooh> I should reboot more than once every 3 months :/
[00:51] <frooh> I tried uninstalling and reinstalling the nvidia-current package
[00:51] <miceiken> what is drwxrwxr-x in octal? :p
[00:51] <frooh> also nvidia-current-updates
[00:51] <frooh> miceiken: don't use octal,  just use chmod u+rwx or w/e
[00:52] <miceiken> what does w/e consist of? :p
[00:52] <miceiken> 775
[00:55] <hualet> Yesterday , I installed kde with 'sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop' , then i just find i don't like kde at all, so i uninstalled it with synaptic, but when i use command 'locate kubuntu', i still found some files, so i deleted them, but when i install some new software today , it always warn me that some 'kubuntu-...'files can't found, so what can i do now?
[00:56] <keith__> hualet, you could try installing kubuntu-desktop again
[00:56] <keith__> hualet, and then uninstall it again
[00:57] <hualet> oh, god...
[00:57] <keith__> hualet, some applications depend on KDE libraries, so you might have inadvertently deleted some of them
[00:57] <hualet> what's the problem?
[00:58] <hualet> then, do it again...?
[00:59] <wilee-nilee> hualet, if you are going to remove a desktop use this website playing around left column. http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/
[00:59] <wilee-nilee> make sure you are on the correct release as well when you use the list.
[00:59] <hualet> keith__, Couldn't I just install some package instead?
[01:00] <keith__> hualet, sure, but you could have deleted files that other programs are depending on that you already have installed
[01:01] <keith__> hualet, but yeah, you could just try reinstalling packages when things error
[01:02] <hualet> ok, but it's really a big project to install kubuntu-desktop again...
[01:02] <wilee-nilee> hualet, how did you remove the desktop in synaptic?
[01:03] <hualet> I just select the package install under the kubuntu-environment group
[01:03] <hualet> then, apply
[01:04] <luftikuss> '~$ ping <IP_ADDRESS>; 7 packets transmitted, 7 received, 0% packet loss, time 5997ms. '~$ telnet <IP_ADDRESS>; Trying <IP_ADDRESS>...; telnet: Unable to connect to remote host: Connection refused.' What should I do now?
[01:04] <keith__> hualet, you probably still have all of the packages downloaded in /var/cache/apt/archives
[01:05] <wilee-nilee> hualet, Not a good way to do it unless you know exactly what to do take a look at the link I gave you it has all the package's in lists for the desktops supported by ubuntu basically, although kubuntu has changed there.
[01:05] <wilee-nilee> as far as actual economic support
[01:05] <keith__> hualet, but I'm actually not sure if that will fix your problem, because I think the system thinks that a package is installed, but really some of its underlying files have been deleted by you
[01:06] <hualet> keith, no, do you know a tweak app named 'ubuntu-tweak'? i always use it after my updating or installing.
[01:06]  * frooh gives up and uninstalls X entirely
[01:06] <hualet> I think so, too
[01:08] <hualet> Are you sure it will works if I just do the install and uninstall again?
[01:12] <keith__> hualet, no, like I said... I'm actually not sure if that will fix your problem, because I think the system thinks that a package is installed, but really some of its underlying files have been deleted by you
[01:12] <keith__> you will probably have to "reinstall" certain packages that are broken
[01:12] <wilee-nilee> hualet, I would look at the desktop list at psychocats website and not peck around read what it says there in the playing around section. http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/
[01:13] <hualet> Ok, i'll try
[01:14] <hualet> keith__ and wilee-nilee, thank you .
[01:15] <wilee-nilee> hualet, no problem, removing and installing whole desktops is rather easy once you know what to do and get the lists of what is installed.
[01:15] <frooh> wow
[01:15] <frooh> it looks like a lightdm issue
[01:15] <frooh> gdm starts up
[01:17] <keith__> hualet, no problem, good luck!
[01:17] <hualet> ok, i'm not familiar with IRC yet, and my English is not good, so , hope not bothered you that much...
[01:17] <hualet> thanks
[01:20] <fizyplankton> i booted with the nomodeset option to try to fix some monitor issues i was having, only to find out that it made it worse. i then removed the nomodeset option, and tried to boot only to find all hell break loose. i went into recovery mode, and i found out that it cant open /var/run/acpi.socket. however, if i boot from the previous kernal, it works fine. does anyone know how to either repair the acpi damage incurred by boo
[01:27] <corvaxia> [Q] What can I do to fix youtube videos? They either stutter or play at 10X normal speed. The effect is either Max Headroom or Poltergeist. Using Chrome with adobe-flashplugin && ubuntu-restricted-extras.
[01:30] <wilee-nilee> corvaxia, chrome has a built in flash.
[01:30] <wilee-nilee> not sure what is causing this though.
[01:32] <corvaxia> Is there anything I can poke a stick at to help narrow the problem down?
[01:32] <wilee-nilee> corvaxia, here is some info, http://support.google.com/chrome/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answer=108086
[01:36] <Fluid_Mantis> Hi, I'm having a bit of trouble. Is there any way to make the backspace key navigate back in Chromium like it does in Chrome on Windows? I know it can be toggled on Firefox in about:config, but I prefer Chrome.
[01:36] <Fluid_Mantis> And also, there is a Chrome extension but it simply does not work.
[01:39] <ridor> hello
[01:39] <Fluid_Mantis> Hi, ridor.
[01:39] <ridor> i want in in my ubuntu 12.04 install gnome 2 is it possible ?
[01:40] <Fluid_Mantis> I too am waiting for any help. I'm new so I can't help...
[01:40] <MajorPopinfresh> You kidding me? I'm still trying to get the bloody OS installed!
[01:40] <ridor> what is your question if i can help you Fluid_Mantis
[01:40] <Fluid_Mantis> To quote...
[01:40] <Fluid_Mantis> Hi, I'm having a bit of trouble. Is there any way to make the backspace key navigate back in Chromium like it does in Chrome on Windows? I know it can be toggled on Firefox in about:config, but I prefer Chrome.
[01:41] <Fluid_Mantis> And also, there is a Chrome extension but it simply does not work.
[01:41] <Fluid_Mantis> Also, I notice since I last used Ubuntu (years ago) the close/minimise/maximise buttons are on the left of windows rather than the right.
[01:42] <ridor> go to #chromium-support Fluid_Mantis
[01:43] <Fluid_Mantis> Thank you.
[01:45] <MajorPopinfresh> I'm having some trouble getting my computer to boot from a USB stick. I've used the programs that the official website recommends to make it work, plugged it in to my computer, and have set USB HDD to top priority for booting. I can't find my boot menu, however, and the computer always bypasses the USB stick and simply runs Windows. Any help?
[01:47] <Fluid_Mantis> Who is the manufacturer of your computer, MajorPopinfresh, or did you build it?
[01:47] <MajorPopinfresh> It's a Samsung laptop.
[01:47] <Fluid_Mantis> I assume you've tried other USB ports, right?
[01:48] <MajorPopinfresh> I've tried all three on the machine.
[01:48] <Fluid_Mantis> I also have a Samsung laptop, but I can't comment since I haven't booted from USB with it.
[01:48] <Fluid_Mantis> Hmm.
[01:48] <fizyplankton> MajorPopinfresh: what version are you trying to install?
[01:48] <Fluid_Mantis> The best thing I can personally recommend is getting in touch with Samsung tomorrow.
[01:48] <viper474> how can you change the unity launcher command for an app?
[01:49] <MajorPopinfresh> I can say for sure that the USB stick its self works... I'm trying to install the latest. 12.04 I believe?
[01:50] <Fluid_Mantis> Often, in the BIOS, the devices themselves (including USB storage) will show in the boot priority settings.
[01:50] <Fluid_Mantis> Do you see your USB device appearing in it?
[01:50] <fizyplankton> MajorPopinfresh: if you are comfortable doing so, try removing the harddrive to force it to boot from the flash drive
[01:50] <MajorPopinfresh> I'm honestly not sure. It's got USB HDD, which is at the top... it's got...
[01:51] <Fluid_Mantis> I thought it was a USB stick though, which would be flash memory rather than a HDD. :P
[01:51] <MajorPopinfresh> Oh.
[01:51] <MajorPopinfresh> Well... let's see... USB FDD, USB CD, and USB HDD are all that show up.
[01:52] <Fluid_Mantis> USB FDD.
[01:52] <Fluid_Mantis> USB Flash Disk Drive?
[01:52] <Fluid_Mantis> Try it.
[01:52] <corvaxia> So this is probably a silly question. Which ultrabooks have the best driver support for ubuntu?
[01:52] <MajorPopinfresh> I just put that at the top. Gonna try it again. :/
[01:53] <djzn> trism: hi
[01:53] <bazhang> corvaxia, ones with intel
[01:53] <MajorPopinfresh> Nope. Still passing over.
[01:53] <viper474> found the answer to my question, thanks
[01:53] <Fluid_Mantis> I'd give Samsung a call then.
[01:53] <Fluid_Mantis> They're usually pretty helpful.
[01:54] <MajorPopinfresh> Right then. We've also got a guy coming on Sunday, if all else fails.
[01:54] <Fluid_Mantis> Good luck then.
[01:54] <Fluid_Mantis> I'm wondering if anybody knows how to move the close/minimise/maximise buttons on windows to the right?
[01:54] <trism> djzn: hello
[01:54] <Fluid_Mantis> I don't really like the OS X style Ubuntu comes with.
[01:55] <JACKCHEF> Hi I've just isntalled ubuntu,  and done it's updates after,  When trying to play nexuiz it wont fullscreen, the bar with my sound/wireless/mail/time at the top stays there and i wont get sound either,  anyone know why?
[01:55] <zykotick9> !controls | Fluid_Mantis
[01:55] <Fluid_Mantis> zykotick9, thanks, I'll check it out.
[01:56] <JACKCHEF> When fullscreening it unity stays ontop,
[01:57] <zykotick9> Fluid_Mantis: at one time (before i ditched google sites) !controls links to my lucidfs (google sites page) for instructions i got (from #ubuntu+1) when lucid was in beta ;)
[01:57] <djzn> trism: any luck on the cursor bug
[01:59] <JACKCHEF> please help, I cannot play full screen applications, unity stays at the top forcing everything to stay beneath the bar
[02:00] <Fluid_Mantis> zykotick9: Yeah, I can see the theme suggestions, still reading the page. But I think Ubuntu only comes with two themes.
[02:02] <trism> djzn: I'm pretty sure I know what is causing it, but I'm not sure the best way to fix it, gonna have to talk to the gtk devs
[02:03] <JACKCHEF> how do i make unity go away while playing a game
[02:03] <JACKCHEF> ????
[02:03] <djzn> trism: I did a test, ran a system fully as root... and i still got the problem.... so it isn't a permission issue
[02:04] <zykotick9> Fluid_Mantis: the amazing difference a : (or ;) can make in gconf-edit or dconf-edit ;)
[02:04] <zykotick9> Fluid_Mantis: i don't know the specifics anymore :(
[02:05] <Fluid_Mantis> Well, I know a semicolon is a continuation of a list. ;)
[02:06] <zykotick9> Fluid_Mantis: in this case, changes left to right ;)
[02:07] <Fluid_Mantis> I see now, in the terminal command. :P
[02:07] <Fluid_Mantis> I'll try it.
[02:08] <Fluid_Mantis> It worked. Thanks a lot.
[02:08] <Fluid_Mantis> :)
[02:09] <Vbitz> I'm going to install ubuntu on my HP dv6 laptop firstly should I wait for 12.10 and secondly are there any catchs to installing ubuntu on a hp dv6?
[02:10] <Fluid_Mantis> The only problem is that it's still left when maximised, but I can understand that since a lot of the "taskbar" is at the top-right.
[02:15] <Fluid_Mantis> Oh, one other thing. There is a mail icon at the top-right. It appears to be primarily for Thunderbird and also some kind of chat client. (Perhaps Jabber?) At any rate, I don't need it. Sorry for the newbie question, but how can I remove it/manage stuff at that part of the screen?
[02:16] <zykotick9> Fluid_Mantis: indicator-messages perhaps?  (i'm not sure!)
[02:16] <Jagst3r15> any way I can get the chromium in Quantal on 12.04?
[02:17] <bazhang> indicator-applet, indicator-applet-appmenu, indicator-applet-complete  <-- Fluid_Mantis got these installed? those seem to cover it
[02:17] <zykotick9> bazhang: that might be overkill
[02:17] <bazhang> !info chromium-browser  |Jagst3r15
[02:17] <bazhang> Jagst3r15, sudo apt-get install chromium-browser
[02:18] <Jagst3r15> bazhang i think version 20+
[02:18] <Jagst3r15> is in quant
[02:18] <Jagst3r15> no way to get?
[02:18] <bazhang> Jagst3r15, then look for a PPA
[02:18] <Jagst3r15> ok thank you
[02:19] <JACKCHEF> I'm having a problem, I installed "myunity" and I noticed it made unity stay ontop of everything, so I uninstalled it rebooted, but the setting , coloring etc. remain in effect to my unity,  but the app "myunity" is gone, please help
[02:19] <bazhang> JACKCHEF, help undo the settings?
[02:20] <heiths> I just updated my 1and1 server… and I got this warning:   W: mdadm: the array /dev/md1 with UUID …..etc
[02:20] <heiths> anyone see this before?
[02:20] <Fluid_Mantis> bazhang, zykotick9, thanks, I'll take a look.
[02:21] <JACKCHEF> Yes I used "myunity" to make some changes to the way unity looks,  but when I went to play a game after, the unity side bar stays ontop, apps will not full screen and the top bar stays at the top with the time,
[02:21] <bazhang> JACKCHEF, so reinstall myunity and undo the settings made with it
[02:21] <JACKCHEF> I uninstalled "myunity" and rebooted, but the coloring and thing sI changed are still in effect, but "myunity" is not installed
[02:21] <JACKCHEF> yes ok
[02:22] <Fluid_Mantis> It could be the Ubuntu One Indicator Applet perhaps?
[02:22] <Fluid_Mantis> I might just remove Ubuntu One.
[02:23] <bazhang> Fluid_Mantis, it's indicator-applet
[02:23] <JACKCHEF> hmm
[02:23] <JACKCHEF> I cannot open applications, unity stays on the left,
[02:23] <JACKCHEF> thy open, but unity is there still
[02:24] <Fluid_Mantis> I'm new to the terminal, but do I use sudo apt-get remove?
[02:24] <Fluid_Mantis> That's to bazhang.
[02:25] <wilee-nilee> JACKCHEF, right click desktop go go the background changer 2nd tab has a panel hider click
[02:25] <bazhang> Fluid_Mantis, sure. thats the way to uninstall stuff
[02:25] <Fluid_Mantis> bazhang, but when I try it for indicator-applet, it tells me it's not installed.
[02:26] <JACKCHEF> I've already tried that, I can make unity bar on the left go away, which allows the app to use more of the screem but the bar at the top stays, forcing the app to make its own window with another bar beneath,
[02:27] <wilee-nilee> JACKCHEF, have you looked at the gnome shell, you can set up a hider for the top panel in it, little different desktop it is gnome 3
[02:27] <JACKCHEF> it shouldnt be this way tho,
[02:28] <JACKCHEF> I've used nexuiz many times , and ubuntu since 10.10
[02:29] <JACKCHEF> the app is not going full screem  minimize and x are only present in the corner of it,  the sound wont kick in without the fullscreen,
[02:29] <JACKCHEF> unity is being a bastard and staying ontop of everything pardon my french
[02:30] <JACKCHEF> i search one sec
[02:31] <JACKCHEF> im having a bug issue
[02:31] <bazhang> JACKCHEF, so file a bug
[02:31] <bazhang> !bugs | JACKCHEF
[02:31] <JACKCHEF> should I do  fresh install>?
[02:32] <JACKCHEF> or something: /
[02:33] <__OH__> hello all ,  Ubuntu12.04.1 64bit is now avialable to upgrade?
[02:34] <wilee-nilee> JACKCHEF, you can reset the unity desktop
[02:34] <JACKCHEF> i tried unity --replace
[02:34] <bazhang> __OH__, August 23rd or thereabouts
[02:35] <__OH__> bazhang, Thank you ;-)
[02:35] <wilee-nilee> JACKCHEF, it is unity --reset
[02:36] <wilee-nilee> alt f2 unity --reset jacjc
[02:36] <wilee-nilee> JACKCHEF, ^^^
[02:37] <JACKCHEF> yeaah,  still doesnt work right
[02:37] <wilee-nilee> JACKCHEF, try rebooting there are other commands as well
[02:38] <wilee-nilee> compiz is a bit finicky even if you did not use it exactly
[02:38] <JACKCHEF> cant I choose like repari option to install if its already installed?
[02:38] <JACKCHEF> I dont have compiz fusion manager installed,   its using some sort of compiz by default tho
[02:39] <JACKCHEF> I'm pretty familiar with compiz, even its experimental plugins,  I'd hate to reinstall and have this problem again tho.. cause ive never had it,
[02:39] <wilee-nilee> JACKCHEF, yes unity is a plugin in compiz.  http://askubuntu.com/questions/17610/how-do-i-reset-my-unity-configuration
[02:40] <arooni-mobile> i want everything that uses readline to use the vim bindings.  i already have set editing-mode vi; and set keymap vi  ...
[02:40] <arooni-mobile> ideas?
[02:41] <bazhang> arooni-mobile, asked in the vim channel?
[02:41] <arooni-mobile> yes
[02:41] <JACKCHEF> seems it hangs,   the terminal
[02:41] <JACKCHEF> any sort of unity command,  screen resets, looks as if it took effect, but terminal never returns to idle, just hangs
[02:42] <zykotick9> !schedule > __OH__
[02:42] <wilee-nilee> JACKCHEF, close the terminal and reboot it is probably fixed
[02:43] <JACKCHEF> whenever I close the terminal it says "There is still a process running in this terminal. Closing the terminal will kill it" and screen flash, appears as if it went back to previous settings, which.. look the same
[02:43] <JACKCHEF> because it was hanging, so I guess it did not complete
[02:45] <JACKCHEF> well see you in 40 mins after re install
[03:07] <zzt> I need some help. Java how to find the last "." location?
[03:08] <zzt> I want replace the string "abc.mp3" to "abc.lrc".
[03:10] <codemaniac> zzt are they on a text file ie the string you mentioned ?
[03:10] <zzt> in java, find the last "."? the function "indexOf()" is only find the string from left
[03:11] <zzt> codemaniac ! text file?
[03:11] <arivu> www.google.com
[03:11] <codemaniac> in java they are called method and not function
[03:11] <codemaniac> so what is the issue here
[03:13] <codemaniac> if you want to do text manipulation only over a file , then native unix utilities are best bet than java
[03:13] <codemaniac> eg awk ,sed
[03:14] <zzt> oh! thanks!
[03:14] <zzt> I write a function.
[03:15] <zzt> I am a chinese programer. Read English is slow
[03:16] <Nautilus> are there different distros of 12.04, like with LAMP, an IDE, Compass etc set up?  eg: a web dev box?
[03:18] <zzt> I'm in china, codemaniac where are you ?
[03:18] <JACKCHEF> installing (:
[03:19] <codemaniac> me in India zzt
[03:20] <jagginess> Nautilus, this is #ubuntu, if you need to know about other linuxes, you should check out wikipedia, they have lists of derivative linuxes..
[03:21] <codemaniac> jagginess: you can always customize the default live cd and put whatever programming tools you wish.
[03:21] <codemaniac> Nautilus:
[03:21] <jagginess> Nautilus is username in here. I was addressing him
[03:21] <jagginess> pff mwhaha
[03:21] <codemaniac> jagginess: sorry highlighted you mistakenly . :)
[03:21] <JACKCHEF> how can I dual boot operating systems from Usb, I can do one just fine, but when installing another it wont give me a grub menu,
[03:22] <jagginess> JACKCHEF, a usb is meant to be carried around, so you'll need to install grub to the beginning of the usb drive.
[03:23] <jagginess> JACKCHEF, you would have to use the bios boot menu (maybe it's f12 to call it up), so you can choose the usb drive as the first drive to boot instead of the default internal one
[03:23] <JACKCHEF> I've installed Ubuntu to usb and booted it fine,  thats not the issue
[03:23] <JACKCHEF> when installing multiple os on usb,  and booting usb, I dont get a grub menu for the OS' that are on the usb
[03:24] <jagginess> JACKCHEF, boot into your main OS you like (any linux that has grub2 package with it), and do update-grub2
[03:24] <jagginess> JACKCHEF, and you don't need to do grub-install
[03:24] <Nautilus> jagginess: no, i want to know about ubuntu, not alternate *nix's.  Just wondering if there was a pre-configured desktop install with things like LAMP, IDE, Compass (and other similar Web Dev tools) available.  Perhaps "distibution" is the wrong word, since thats used for things like Kubuntu
[03:24] <JACKCHEF> I cant
[03:25] <jagginess> JACKCHEF, if the menu doesnt show up.. then you have to do grub-install from the "same" linux you did update-grub2 on.
[03:25] <jagginess> JACKCHEF, depends which linux's grub.cfg you want to use.
[03:25] <JACKCHEF> how am I suppost to do that if it doesnt boot
[03:25] <jagginess> JACKCHEF, then do a rescue boot with a cd, and fix your main linux on usb..
[03:26] <jagginess> JACKCHEF, i assume you want to do a rescue prompt with ubuntu.. so fix your ubuntu usb boot (use a ubuntu install cd)
[03:26] <jagginess> !rescue
[03:26] <JACKCHEF> have no idea what your talking about,
[03:26] <jagginess> argh.. ubottu can be awful at times
[03:26] <JACKCHEF> not listening apparently
[03:26] <jagginess> JACKCHEF, you have ubuntu on your usb?
[03:27] <jagginess> JACKCHEF, is that an installer or an installed ubuntu?
[03:27] <JACKCHEF> Yes , and I dont care about it either,
[03:27] <jagginess> JACKCHEF, then stop trolling. That's how you fix it.
[03:27] <jagginess> now go fix it.
[03:27] <JACKCHEF> I can install ubuntu onto usb just fine,  But when I install another os onto the usb,  I do not get a choice to boot which os , i get nothing
[03:28] <JACKCHEF> im not trolling, perhaps stop blabbing things that have nothing to do with what im asking and I wont tell you im not interested in it, no need to take offense mate
[03:28] <jagginess> JACKCHEF, well ask anybody else. They'll say the same.. you issue update-grub2 and grub-install. You have to rtfm from here on to know what i'm talking about.. sorry.
[03:29]  * jagginess rests super-duper multipler Oses to the gods.
[03:29] <smithw> Hi, can you guys help with nvidia optimus/bumblebee problems? I tried asking in #bumblebee, but I think there's no one there right now. (I'm asking to ask just to make sure it's allowed here.)
[03:29] <Nautilus> jagginess: I want to know about ubuntu, not alternate *nix's.  Just wondering if there was a pre-configured desktop install with things like LAMP, IDE, Compass (and other similar Web Dev tools) available.  Perhaps "distibution" is the wrong word, since thats used for things like Kubuntu
[03:29] <TJ-> I've missed everything that has been said, but surely if installed "another OS" causes the problem, then the problem is with what "other OS" does to the USB's boot sector. Maybe it installs syslinux not GRUB?
[03:30] <JACKCHEF> I think you are right
[03:30] <JACKCHEF> after the second OS is on there I cant boot either so,
[03:30] <TJ-> Many ISO based installers use syslinux not GRUB
[03:30] <jagginess> Nautilus, you'll have to research on that, simply a google with "ubuntu based distro site:wikipedia.org" may show some relevance
[03:31] <Aquethys> Hi. I'm trying to install 12.04 wubi on my hp pavilion dv6. Last time I tried the wireless drivers were not present (wireless just showed disconnected). Is there any way to make sure they will be?
[03:31] <TJ-> JACKCHEF: I seem to recall there's a hidden key in the syslinux bootstrap you can press to get to a menu... I wrote that code!
[03:31] <TJ-> Let me go check, it was a while ago now
[03:31] <JACKCHEF> sneaky sneaky
[03:31] <InferiorHuman> TJ-, hello again. ;-)
[03:32] <TJ-> JACKCHEF: I'm not sure but I think it's one of Shift or Alt
[03:32] <Nautilus> jagginess: ok thanks, pretty much already did that.  Maybe I'm looking at it the wrong way... get 12.04 installed then maybe theres something that sets up a dev environment?
[03:32] <wilee-nilee> JACKCHEF, How did you install ubuntu to the usb?
[03:32] <JACKCHEF> I installed it from disc to usb
[03:32] <JACKCHEF> partitioned beforehand
[03:33] <TJ-> "If the Shift or Alt keys are held down during boot, or the Caps or Scroll locks are set, SYSLINUX will display a LILO-style "boot:" prompt"
[03:33] <Aquethys> Hi. I'm trying to install 12.04 wubi on my hp pavilion dv6. Last time I tried the wireless drivers were not present (wireless just showed disconnected). Is there any way to make sure they will be?
[03:33] <wilee-nilee> JACKCHEF, ah good when you do that you want to use the something other option to point grub at the usb, this is an easy fix.
[03:33] <JACKCHEF> But I will read about  that TJ thanks.,
[03:33] <JACKCHEF> and thanks jagginess
[03:34] <cfhowlett> Aquethys: were they present during live boot?
[03:34] <jagginess> Aquethys, well you can try the live option if there is one with the latest ubuntu installer and see if that can connect your wifi or at least be able to scan WIFI AP with it..
[03:34] <TJ-> GRUB uses Shift too, so if that isn't getting you a boot menu something may have totally taken away the boot-strap in sector 0
[03:34] <Aquethys> what's the live option? can you please link me iff possible? is that wubi?
[03:34] <TJ-> InferiorHuman: Hi :)
[03:35] <JACKCHEF> Aquethys Im running ubuntu on a DV6 right now
[03:35] <Aquethys> Nice
[03:35] <Aquethys> When you installed
[03:35] <Aquethys> did it have wireless?
[03:35] <jagginess> Aquethys, i don't know if its on the wubi.. nobody here uses it..
[03:35] <Aquethys> Or did you have to manually get the drivers?
[03:35] <Aquethys> Oh
[03:35] <Aquethys> okay so how else do I install? via cd?
[03:35] <JACKCHEF> it didn't.  i went to, additional hardware and activated  a wireless driver
[03:36] <Aquethys> Oh
[03:36] <Aquethys> Are you running 12.04?
[03:36] <jagginess> anyone knows if the 12.04 cd still offers a live option? (Aquethy's)
[03:36] <JACKCHEF> if you plug into eithernet and do an update your problem could be solved aswell, that happened on my netbook
[03:36] <cfhowlett> Aquethys: FYI; wubi is for TESTING ubuntu.  It is NOT a permanent installation solution - so sayeth the wubi developers.
[03:36] <jagginess> Aquethys, I run 12.04 yes.. but i'm on another machine currently..
[03:36] <Aquethys> oh
[03:36] <Aquethys> Okay
[03:36] <Aquethys> So what's the real way to keep ubuntu
[03:37] <JACKCHEF> keep
[03:37] <JACKCHEF> ?
[03:37] <Aquethys> Ubuntu desktop?
[03:37] <jagginess> Aquethys, wubi is not a real "linux" because it exists as a single large file on the windows filesystem
[03:37] <cfhowlett> !dual boot|aquethys
[03:38] <Aquethys> where do I get the file?
[03:38] <jagginess> Aquethys, but you should still be able to check it out and try to get your wifi working with it while you get the hang of things..
[03:38] <zykotick9> !cookie | jagginess cfhowlett
[03:38] <jagginess> Aquethys, the real installer?
[03:38] <Aquethys> ya
[03:38] <jagginess> Aquethys, it's there on the main page somewhere
[03:38] <jagginess> !download
[03:38] <cfhowlett> jagginess: you've already downloaded the ubuntu iso...create a boot media (usb are GREAT for this), boot from the live media and install.
[03:39] <Aquethys> is it the desktop cd file?
[03:39] <Aquethys> http://releases.ubuntu.com/precise/
[03:39] <cfhowlett> Aquethys: arrg.  create a boot media cdrom or USB, boot from that and install.  you've already got the iso.
[03:39] <jagginess> Aquethys, y
[03:39] <cfhowlett> Aquethys: yes.
[03:39] <Aquethys> and doesn't matter what version of windows I have, I can get 64 bit ubuntu?
[03:40] <cfhowlett> Aquethys: yes if your system supports 64 bit.
[03:40] <InferiorHuman> Aquethys, do you have a 64bit processor ?
[03:40] <jagginess> Aquethys, http://releases.ubuntu.com/precise/ubuntu-12.04-desktop-amd64.iso (64bit)  or http://releases.ubuntu.com/precise/ubuntu-12.04-desktop-i386.iso  (32 bit)
[03:40] <Aquethys> Um i3?
[03:40] <InferiorHuman> Aquethys, yep
[03:40] <Aquethys> Okay
[03:40] <jagginess> Aquethys, amd64 is for intel64bit too
[03:40] <InferiorHuman> yep
[03:40] <Aquethys> Okay so
[03:40] <Aquethys> Save the image file or open with imgburn so I can burn it to cd?
[03:40] <jagginess> Aquethys, this one http://releases.ubuntu.com/precise/ubuntu-12.04-desktop-amd64.iso
[03:41] <Aquethys> yup got it :D just on the download screen
[03:41] <Aquethys> gotta decide whether to open or save
[03:41] <InferiorHuman> save it then open with image burn. or use unetbootin to make a USB installer
[03:41] <cfhowlett> Aquethys: see unetbootin for windows to create a USB
[03:41] <Aquethys> okay
[03:41] <Aquethys> can I burn it to CD
[03:41] <cfhowlett> Aquethys: yes
[03:41] <jagginess> Aquethys, imgburn works well and is free on windows
[03:41] <Aquethys> So after I burn it with imgburn
[03:41] <Aquethys> Do I just reboot with disc in
[03:42] <jagginess> Aquethys, ya.. there's an button option to "burn image to cd" graphically, easy to use..
[03:42] <cfhowlett> Aquethys: follow the dual boot installation I sent you.
[03:42] <Aquethys> alright just waiitng for download to finish :)
[03:43] <InferiorHuman> Aquethys, when your computer reboots with cd in it check for the menu's to say press F10 for boot menu or something and then select cd-drive. or in bios in boot order make sure cd-rom drive is first.
[03:43] <Aquethys> I have the dv6...is this for all windows computers @inferior?
[03:44] <cfhowlett> Aquethys: it goes without saying, but I'll say it anyway; back up critical windows data before installing ubuntu.
[03:44] <Aquethys> Okay
[03:44] <Aquethys> um
[03:44] <JACKCHEF> okay my previous problem is gone but im afraid an update will bring it back
[03:44] <Aquethys> I don't have a external hard drive available
[03:44] <JACKCHEF> aquethys Im on a DV6
[03:44] <Aquethys> Yup :P
[03:44] <JACKCHEF> f9 should bring a choice between all available bootable media
[03:44] <Aquethys> okay
[03:44] <Aquethys> when it's at the hp screen?
[03:45] <JACKCHEF> the starting flash with the options yes
[03:45] <Aquethys> okay
[03:45] <Aquethys> how do I backup all critical windows data without an external hard drive? I don't have one of those :(
[03:45] <Aquethys> and on windows 8 developer preview
[03:45] <cfhowlett> Aquethys: usb ...
[03:45] <InferiorHuman> Aquethys, do you have a second HD in that machine ?
[03:45] <viralfrost> cloud services maybe?
[03:45] <JACKCHEF> right now my windows have there minimize and maximize options at the top of their windows,  but after updating lastime those options were transfered to the unity bar at the top,
[03:46] <JACKCHEF> i dont want it so
[03:46] <viralfrost> dropbox, box, ubuntu one...etc
[03:46] <Aquethys> second HD? I've got C drive, Recovery drive (D), HP_Tools (E)
[03:46] <Aquethys> and I only have 5GB on my dropbox
[03:47] <viralfrost> you can always resize your windows partition, then do whatever you need to on the second partition..ie: install ubuntu, reinstall windows..whatever
[03:47] <warmit> hi,need help. I used 'git reset --hard HEAD^^'  on my working tree, does that mean the recently commited 2 commits are gone totally?
[03:48] <Aquethys> hm okay how do I resize and see how much space I need to dedicate to a second partition?
[03:48] <viralfrost> then when its installed, move all your stuff from the windows partition to your new one, and delete the old partition that had your data on, and resize the one that you just made
[03:48] <JACKCHEF> when installing ubuntu alongside it will resize it for you you can choose the size by sliding an allocation bar
[03:48] <JACKCHEF> ^^^
[03:48] <Aquethys> @jackchef you mean when I boot the CD?
[03:48] <TJ-> warmit: Yes
[03:49] <TJ-> warmit: *unless* those commits still exist in another branch, or you can recall their commit IDs since they'll be hanging commits with no references right now
[03:49] <JACKCHEF> @Aquethys,  If your only installed os, is windows, and your installing Ubuntu, if will detect this, you can choose the "install along side windows " option , There will be a slider bar choosing how much space to dedicate to your windows and how much for ubuntu ,
[03:49] <cfhowlett> Aquethys: also, it helps to defrag your windows before you repartition.
[03:49] <JACKCHEF> it will*
[03:50] <Aquethys> okay
[03:50] <Aquethys> great
[03:50] <Aquethys> Still have to backup though right?
[03:50] <jagginess> ya
[03:50] <viralfrost> aquethys - and don't interrupt it..otherwise itll mess up your data...
[03:50] <JACKCHEF> you dont .. "have to "   but you can
[03:50] <jagginess> Aquethys, you have to.
[03:50] <Aquethys> ^
[03:50] <Aquethys> Ya
[03:50] <jagginess> Aquethys, to be 100% sure.
[03:50] <Aquethys> I need to...can't risk it
[03:50] <jagginess> yup
[03:50] <Aquethys> Um
[03:50] <Aquethys> I only have
[03:50] <Aquethys> a like
[03:50] <FloodBot1> Aquethys: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:51] <cfhowlett> ...um , floodbot What the heck?
[03:51] <jagginess> i think he has a windows virus too
[03:51] <JACKCHEF> your entire HDD could be dedicated to windows, but during ubuntu installation you can choose exactly how much space you want each OS to have access to on ur HDD,
[03:51] <warmit> TJ-: yes, before i reset, i started a new branch to reset, but when i checkout the other commit, it flys back to the same commit i reset to .
[03:51] <TJ-> Aquethys: please write your messages on one line
[03:51] <cfhowlett> jagginess: would a windows virus effect irc?
[03:51]  * jagginess thinks Aquethys may have got the irc burp bot
[03:52] <TJ-> warmit: can you go back through your scroll buffer and spot the commit IDs ?
[03:52] <warmit> TJ-: yes ,there is
[03:53] <TJ-> warmit:  one other way you might be able to find the commit IDs is to do "ls -ltr .git/objects/" and then the same in the most recent sub-directories of that one to spot the IDs
[03:53] <JACKCHEF> Aquethys: choose install along side windows, and no prior partitioning will be needed,  just choose how much space to dedicate to windows and linux with the slider bar presented,    thats all
[03:53] <JACKCHEF> allocation bar*
[03:53] <TJ-> warmit: If you have the commit IDs you can cherry-pick them
[03:53] <warmit> TJ-: i am now on that branch,but things are not looking like i needed.
[03:53] <somsip> Grub problem - I have kernel 3.2.0-29 installed, and update-grub confirms this is recognised when it's run, but only 3.2.0-26 shows in Grub menu. Any ideas why this is?
[03:54] <TJ-> sompsip "Previous operating systems" ?
[03:54] <wilee-nilee> JACKCHEF, generally it is advised to resize windows with its virtual partitioner with windows 7 at least, and to malke sure it boots fine after the auto chkdsk.
[03:54] <viralfrost> aquethys - I've installed linux many times and partitioned with gparted, resizing my partition with windows on it, and installing linux on a new one...never had any problem with data loss or anything
[03:54] <jagginess> viralfrost, ya but you're not new to this.. :)
[03:54] <somsip> TJ-: I do have grub on a secondary HD recognised by bootinfoscript, but I'm not clear on how to correct this.
[03:55] <JACKCHEF> yeah , I partition everything before installations,
[03:55] <cfhowlett> JACKCHEF: I'm inclined to agree with that method.
[03:56] <TJ-> somsip: maybe the boot device order in BIOS is picking that secondary drive to boot from?
[03:57] <viralfrost> somsip - try update-initramfs and update-grub2 ?
[03:57] <somsip> It's something I can check next time I reboot. The drive was only reattached a short time ago which is when I noticed kernel updates were not getting through
[03:58] <TJ-> somsip that'll be it then
[03:58] <somsip> viralfrost: update-grub2 does find the images for -29, but I guess that update-grub was doing the same thing. I'll check on next boot
[03:58] <somsip> TJ-: Ok - I'll dig in the BIOS. Cheers
[03:58] <jagginess> somsip, duh. update-grub is not for grub2.
[03:59] <viralfrost> :)
[03:59] <hwkiller-netbook> update-grub is for grub2, iirc
[03:59] <hwkiller-netbook> that's what I use, and I use grub2
[03:59] <zykotick9> actually "update-grub" and "update-grub2" are the same
[03:59] <somsip> jagginess: actually update-grub2 is a symlilnk to update-grub
[03:59] <jagginess> can be.. but traditionally weren't.
[03:59] <jagginess> you just use update-grub2
[04:00] <zykotick9> jagginess: always.  grub1 aka grub-legacy didn't have the "update" feature
[04:00] <viralfrost> somsip - try using grub-customizer
[04:01] <jagginess> well if i use multiple distros (wait a minute i do), I'm so stubborn I will always use update-grub2 :)
[04:02] <somsip> viralfrost: thankd for the idea, but grub has always updated automatically so if that's stopped it sugegst something else is wrong. Another MBR having grub seems to make sense given what I found on the web before asking
[04:02] <zykotick9> jagginess: good for you.  pointless, save yourself a keystroke every time ;)
[04:24] <__OH__> hello all, how long it take to install Ubuntu restricted extras from Ubuntu Software Center?
[04:24] <`4fun`> hey guys, i portforwarded port 113 for irc identd to my ubuntu server but it still acts as if its not enabled
[04:24] <`4fun`> is there something i need to install to enable identd on ubuntu server?
[04:24] <cfhowlett> __OH__: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[04:24] <__OH__> It take about 15 minutes for me now and still apply....
[04:24] <exothermc> Is there a nice interface to manage storage and file systems?  Something like openfiler, but using Ubuntu?  I don't need the permissions things just the RAID, FS etc?
[04:25] <jagginess> `4fun`, modern clients can simulate or there are router boxes that simulate it sometimes..
[04:25] <jagginess> `4fun`, it's an old relic that isn't very necessary..
[04:25] <`4fun`> jagginess, what isnt necessary?
[04:25] <jagginess> `4fun`, it's possible your router box is not allowing to port forward 113
[04:26] <`4fun`> jagginess, its the port is forwarded to my ubuntu server already
[04:27] <jagginess> `4fun`, the box may say its configured it's doing port forward to 113, but it may not be doing it because it's already doing some kind of identd on it's own
[04:27] <__OH__> cfhowlett, how do i stop install  process Ubuntu restricted extras from Ubuntu Software Center, it's seem not work from there?
[04:27] <jagginess> `4fun`, identd is basically something of a relic
[04:28] <`4fun`> jagginess, the router does nothing but forward port 113.. there isnt anything else invloved, atleast i think so.. and i didnt do anything to my ubuntu server about identd
[04:28] <`4fun`> so i dont know if its handling anything by default on its own.. thats why im asking here
[04:29] <`4fun`> obviously the port is not forwarded to any other machine from the router
[04:29] <jagginess> `4fun`, you should ask on #freenode what you're after about irc's..
[04:29] <`4fun`> umm its not about irc
[04:29] <`4fun`> its about ubuntu acting as if port 113 doesnt exist...
[04:29] <jagginess> `4fun`, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Identd identd is dead :/
[04:30] <`4fun`> its not on IRC dude
[04:30] <jagginess> `4fun`, they would know about identd
[04:30] <jagginess> irc or not
[04:30] <`4fun`> huh?
[04:30] <`4fun`> who would know?
[04:30] <jagginess> #freenode
[04:31] <`4fun`> well, lets ignore IRC for a second jagginess, why is ubuntu server not seeing port 113? does it need a certain package to install or some kind of service?
[04:32] <jagginess> `4fun`, sounds like you're setting up a server that does ident checking
[04:33] <jagginess> `4fun`, to understand what can simulate an ident response, you can ask on #freenode
[04:33] <jagginess> `4fun`, sounds like you're setting up an irc server
[04:33] <`4fun`> no man
[04:33] <`4fun`> im not
[04:33] <`4fun`> and thanks for trying dude
[04:33] <__OH__> There is problem with Ubuntu Software center, in process applying changes not been complete and take so long, I need to stop thier process, how to do?
[04:35] <jagginess> `4fun`, port 113 is identd. You'll have to know about it. :) (read online)
[04:35] <TJ-> `4fun`: You need to install an identd on the server. I use oidentd with its proxying enabled
[04:36] <`4fun`> TJ-, aah so i do need an identd server.. thanks dude
[04:36] <jagginess> lol
[04:36] <TJ-> `4fun`: E.g. I have oidentd on my Internet server which proxies for my VPN tunnel that leads back to my premises. On my laptop I run oidentd too, configured to expect proxy requests from the Server. So when an ident request comes in, the Internet server sends it to my laptop
[04:36] <jagginess> irrelevant if his router box already simulates an identd response.
[04:36] <jagginess> but good luck..
[04:37] <gnomefreak> thanks for ketting me test it
[04:38] <gnomefreak> ketting ==  letting
[04:38] <WhiteRook> can anyone help with advice on how to load ubuntu to an AMD64 Windows 7 system with unalocated space on the drive?
[04:38] <`4fun`> jagginess, installing oidentd fixed the issue.. now port 113 is Open and IRC sees it as enabled..
[04:39] <`4fun`> im still not getting what youre on about the router simulating an identd response
[04:39] <`4fun`> its just forwarding a 'port'
[04:39] <jagginess> `4fun`, and the people at #freenode would know too :) lol.. whatever you're trying to do
[04:39] <jagginess> `4fun`, identd is sort of dead, but tends to stick around with irc stuff
[04:39] <TJ-> `4fun`: some gateway routers will answer ident requests with a simulated user name
[04:39] <jagginess> TJ- yeahyeah i told him already like 2-3 times..
[04:39] <jagginess> :)
[04:40] <`4fun`> TJ-, yeah, ok, that makes sense
[04:40] <`4fun`> jagginess, thats not what you said, you were talking as if my router is actually doing that and it doesnt
[04:40] <`4fun`> TJ- just explained it better
[04:40] <`4fun`> but problem solved
[04:40] <jagginess> lol well ok
[04:40] <Criv> ezit
[04:41] <jagginess> that's why i mentioned the dudes who would know it best (#freenode)
[04:41] <`4fun`> thanks to both of you
[04:41] <jagginess> cuse ya weren't getting it..
[04:41]  * WhiteRook requesting private chat for help loading ubuntu in dual boot mode with windows 7 using wubi if possible
[04:42] <gnomefreak> WhiteRook: please keep your requests, problem in the channle insteasd of private chat
[04:43] <WhiteRook> gnomefreak - ok thanks, should i explain my setup and situation in channel?
[04:44] <gnomefreak> WhiteRook: yes than wait for someone to respond
[04:44] <cviebrock> any known issues with fail2ban on 12.04 ?
[04:45] <JACKCHEF> I keep having this problem, when launching nexuiz, or a game, unity stays at the side, i can make the unity bar dissapear but the bar at the top with the time and such stays, making the application have its own borders too
[04:46] <raymond_> JACKCHEF, odd, even in fullscreen mode?
[04:46] <JACKCHEF> It wont full screen,  it takes the entire screen except for where the unity launcher and the top bar is
[04:46] <JACKCHEF> \I set it to large as possible in nexuiz options
[04:47] <JACKCHEF> 2nd fresh install,
[04:47] <raymond_> JACKCHEF, I like nexuiz.. maybe I'll give it a try on my system.
[04:47] <raymond_> what's your video card?
[04:47] <JACKCHEF> intel 965 chpset or soemthing, old
[04:47] <WhiteRook> I am running windows 7 on a laptop and have re-partitioned my primary hdd for 12 gigs of unalocated space for the ubuntu install (i am currently running ubuntu in a virtual machine) - i would like to install to the new partition for multiboot (unallocated space) but have no way to backup my current OS and related files, thus am hesitant to modify the bootloader - what is the best option to be able to dual boot with windows 7 without an available backup of th
[04:47] <WhiteRook> e current disk?
[04:48] <raymond_> JACKCHEF, ok and are you running the one from the software center?
[04:48] <JACKCHEF> yep
[04:48] <raymond_> ok
[04:48] <JACKCHEF> maybe I should get it elsewhere,
[04:48] <raymond_> I'll download it and check it out.
[04:48] <fego> WhiteRook: before anything you touch a backup is all doctor orders
[04:49] <fego> you can install ubuntu in the unallocated space
[04:49] <JACKCHEF> yeah 880 mb later
[04:49] <fego> you will need to have a swap too
[04:50]  * gnomefreak has 2 hard drves un ny bix ti nae installing Ubuntu
[04:50] <JACKCHEF> *cries* I love nexuiz
[04:51] <gnomefreak> damn i cant type
[04:51]  * gnomefreak goes to look it up
[04:51] <somsip> Grub2 problem - current kernel installed is 3.2.0-29 but grub menu only shows 3.2.0-26. sudo update-grub2 finds the images but does not change the menu. Have reinstalled linux-image-generic and linux-headers-generic which completer fine but still don't show. Grub is only installed on one MBR. Any ideas?
[04:51] <WhiteRook> can wibu install to a new partition using the windows bootloader?
[04:51] <WhiteRook> as opposed to installing on the windows partition
[04:51] <past> I am super new to linux and i have a .zip file that i want to install; not sure how...help!
[04:52] <JACKCHEF> haha
[04:52] <JACKCHEF> past: you should be able to just open it with file archiver and unzip like you would any other os
[04:52] <raymond_> past, a .zip file?  What's in it?
[04:52] <cfhowlett> past: should open by clicking on it.
[04:52] <fego> you can always do a wubi install , but it wont be a native linux ixntall WhiteRook
[04:52] <decci> Hi
[04:52] <r0sh> Guys, brightness control of laptop not working anymore after upgrade.. New kernel version is 3.2.0-29 and the acpi_backlight=vendor parameter is not working anymore.. :(
[04:52] <cfhowlett> decci: greetings
[04:53] <decci> cfhowlett: I recently installed ubuntu server, and opted for encrytion when install.  now i am annoyed with constantly having to enter the password in order for it to boot, as i want to host this server, and wont be able to enter the password.  I am looking for someone who can help me remove it
[04:53] <raymond_> past: like is it a program or just files?
[04:53] <fego> just create your root , swap partitions before hand with gparted
[04:53] <WhiteRook> what is a reasonable swap partition size?
[04:53] <cfhowlett> decci: remove the encryption?
[04:53] <past> hmm i tried and file archiver said it couldnt open let me give it another shot
[04:53] <fego> and then start the installer
[04:53] <decci> cfhowlett: How shall I disable entering password every while and then?
[04:54] <decci> cfhowlett: i am annoyed with constantly having to enter the password in order for it to boot
[04:54] <JACKCHEF> stupid unity never did this to me before
[04:54] <decci> cfhowlett: How to get rid of that?
[04:54] <fego> you will be asked to provide the root you want to install ubuntu
[04:54] <gnomefreak> WhiteRook: depends on how much memoy
[04:54] <raymond_> JACKCHEF, ok.. here goes
[04:54] <JACKCHEF> woOoo
[04:54] <cfhowlett> decci: understood...but my experience with such is limited.  stay in channel and ask again.
[04:54] <cfhowlett> !patience|decci:
[04:54] <r0sh> any solution?
[04:55] <decci> ubottu: okie
[04:55] <raymond_> JACKCHEF, works for me..
[04:55] <JACKCHEF> damnit
[04:55] <raymond_> all I had to do was go to settings, then under video hit full screen, then apply
[04:55] <fego> past: is it a source tar ball ? ie with .tat.[b]gz
[04:55] <raymond_> when it installs it defaults to window mode
[04:55] <fego> .tar.gz like extn
[04:56] <JACKCHEF> thank you raymond
[04:56] <JACKCHEF> I am blind but now I see
[04:56] <raymond_> JACKCHEF, np.
[04:56] <WhiteRook> I have about 15 gigs I can dedicate to linux, also will the BIOS recognize the ubuntu install prompting me for my preferred OS - is there any way to accomplish this
[04:56] <JACKCHEF> damnit, little option was unticked
[04:56] <WACOMalt> This may be a little out of this chat's realm, but I am running Ubuntu 12 on a VM in virtualbox. Would anyone know why my internet dies in the VM after about 5 minutes every time? or how I could check the cause?
[04:56] <fego> past: you can have all the pieces of software you want in software center , no nedd of source install
[04:56] <JACKCHEF> i had reset, replaced, unity and a whole bunch of things lol
[04:56] <JACKCHEF> i was ready for gnome or kde
[04:57] <JACKCHEF> hahhah
[04:57] <raymond_> WACOMalt, are you on wireless?
[04:57] <WACOMalt> raymond_, nope, wired
[04:57] <JACKCHEF> im going to tackle arch linux
[04:58] <WhiteRook> WACOmalt - I am on wireless and using VM virtualbox and having no issues, although I enabled a second network adapter in the VM settings to bridge the wifi to behave like ehternet
[04:58] <raymond_> WACOMalt, what kind of virtual network do you have?
[04:58] <bazhang> !ot | JACKCHEF
[04:59] <WACOMalt> raymond_, it's set to NAT right now
[04:59] <WACOMalt> the default for virtualbox
[04:59] <marahin> Harro! Anynyan can help me with setting up first Virtual Server on Ubuntu Server?
[04:59] <JACKCHEF> i said one thing settle down
[04:59] <marahin> Do i have to install an app for that, or is it icluded?
[04:59] <bazhang> JACKCHEF, chat is not here. #ubuntu-offtopic for that
[05:00]  * gnomefreak going read i hope
[05:00] <WhiteRook> Question regarding 32 bit vs 64 - should 64 perform better on AMD64 bit arch?
[05:01] <bazhang> WhiteRook, if you hace 64bit machine use the 64bit OS
[05:02] <smithw> I'm getting a very strange error. After the last reboot, the keyboard does not work anymore. All I can gather is that the X server is receiving a unending stream of "return" keystrokes. The keyboard works fine on grub, windows and a live usb. I have no idea what can I do troubleshoot this. Can anyone help?
[05:03] <raymond_> WACOMalt, are you on a router?
[05:03] <cfhowlett> smithw: quick answer; change keyboards?
[05:03] <WACOMalt> raymond_, yes
[05:03] <WACOMalt> a Belkin Vision N1
[05:03] <raymond_> WACOMalt, try switching it to bridged
[05:03] <WhiteRook> finally, i dont have access to a live or install CD or other removable media - i am installing from a virtual drive (PowerISO) - is there any way to install in this way to a new partition or am i out of luck
[05:03] <WACOMalt> the router or the virtual adaptor?
[05:04] <raymond_> WACOMalt, granted, it should work under NAT.. but.. just in case.. the virtual adapter
[05:04] <WACOMalt> ok, trying in bridged
[05:04] <smithw> cfhowlett, it's a notebook. and I don't see how could I change the keyboard driver and/or layout with the return being pressed repeateadly
[05:04] <WACOMalt> Looks like a lot of people have this issue
[05:04] <WACOMalt> according to this: https://forums.virtualbox.org/viewtopic.php?t=29884
[05:04] <WhiteRook> WACO - bridged solved this problem for me
[05:04] <cfhowlett> smithw: for grins and giggles can you plug in a usb keyboard to test that error you're getting?
[05:05] <raymond_> WACOMalt, bridged is kind of cool because your VM gets it's own IP address on your network.  Helps if you ever want to run a server on it or something.
[05:05] <WACOMalt> ah cool
[05:05] <WACOMalt> yeah I'll need that soon anyways, thanks
[05:05] <raymond_> with NAT it's stuck behind your host.
[05:05] <WACOMalt> ah
[05:05] <WACOMalt> nope now I dont have internet at all
[05:05] <WACOMalt> :/
[05:05] <raymond_> weird weird weird.... do you have a MAC filter on your router?
[05:06] <WACOMalt> I dont
[05:06] <WACOMalt> in fact its wide open
[05:06] <smithw> cfhowlett, I'll have to find one first, though I don't think I'll be able to type anything with the returns. I'll go get it and try anyway, one sec
[05:06] <decci> cfhowlett: Will this help https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ecryptfs-utils/+question/48636?
[05:06] <WACOMalt> (Im in the middle of nowhere so its never an issue
[05:06] <raymond_> WACOMalt, which version are you running?
[05:06] <WACOMalt> newest VB
[05:07] <WACOMalt> not sure on ubuntu since I cant update it
[05:07] <WACOMalt> (where is the version # anyways?)
[05:08] <raymond_> usually under about.
[05:08] <WACOMalt> it appears to be using eth1, but I feel like that should be eth0
[05:08] <WACOMalt> I dont know where "about" is
[05:08] <raymond_> WACOMalt,  you mean under the VM's settings?
[05:08] <WACOMalt> no I mean inside of ubuntu
[05:09] <WhiteRook> WACOMalt - go to settings, then details
[05:09] <smithw> cfhowlett, no, the external keyboard doesn't work either, its input is completely ignored
[05:09] <WACOMalt> 12.04LTS
[05:09] <WhiteRook> 12.04 LTS is the current LTS
[05:10] <WACOMalt> is there a way to "factory reset" the networking settings?
[05:10] <WACOMalt> I feel like maybe I messed something up in there on ubuntu
[05:10] <WhiteRook> WACOMalt, would you like a screenshot on my virtualbox network settings which work?
[05:10] <WACOMalt> yes please :)
[05:10] <cfhowlett> smithw: if you're absolutely certain that there is NOT a stuck or dirty key or something, I'd suggest see if you can disable that particular key sequence with keyboard settings.  Set it to null input - *TEMPORARILY*
[05:10] <WACOMalt> hmm I have internet now after removing and making a new connection
[05:11] <WACOMalt> in the connection settings
[05:11] <WACOMalt> in bridged.. so we'll see if it stays alive
[05:11] <WACOMalt> wtf
[05:11] <WACOMalt> I can connect to google.com
[05:11] <BobJonkman> Hi: Who should I contact to get Software Freedom Day entered as a Global Event on the LoCo Events, similar to last year? http://loco.ubuntu.com/events/global/1258/detail/
[05:11] <WACOMalt> but I cant download updates
[05:12] <WACOMalt> I get a 404 not found on all updates
[05:12] <decci> I recently installed ubuntu server, and opted for encrytion when install.  now i am annoyed with constantly having to enter the password in order for it to boot, as i want to host this server, and wont be able to enter the password.  I am looking for someone who can help me remove it.
[05:12] <smithw> cfhowlett, yeah, I'm absolutely certain. I can use the keyboard normally on grub, windows and the live stick. I don't know how I can do that via files only (since the only way I have of changing settings on the machine is by booting on the live stick)
[05:12] <decci> Will https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ecryptfs-utils/+question/48636 help?
[05:12] <marahin> Guys. How can I create Vserver on Ubuntu Server?
[05:13] <cfhowlett> smithw: I admit defeat.  sorry.  stay in channel and ask.
[05:13] <cfhowlett> !patience|smithw:
[05:14] <smithw> ok :(
[05:14] <smithw> thanks anyway
[05:14] <jagginess> BobJonkman, there's a locoteamhowto link from this page http://loco.ubuntu.com/about-loco/
[05:14] <WACOMalt> Anyone know why update manager would fail to download everything, but yet my internet connection is working fine?
[05:15] <WACOMalt> http://pastie.org/4542470 this is the output of the update manager when it fails
[05:15] <BobJonkman> Thanx, jagginess, I'll follow up on that
[05:16] <decci> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1941515
[05:16] <bazhang> decci, dont ask every five seconds
[05:16] <smithw> well... it's simply ignoring the keyboard completely on the login screen. the endless returns only start if I activate the onscreen keyboard and login with that
[05:17] <smithw> after the login, endless returns. before, ignoring the keystrokes, even ctrl+alt+f1 to try and go to tty
[05:18] <decci> bazhang: Isnt ther any solution?
[05:18] <bazhang> decci, patience. asking more often does not get a quicker answer
[05:18] <raymond_> WACOMalt, maybe you have some antivirus software on the host that's freaking out?
[05:19] <WACOMalt> I dont use antivirus software at all
[05:19] <WACOMalt> for that reason :)
[05:20] <raymond_> I'm stumped.  So.. you can visit websites and everything?
[05:20] <aeon-ltd> decci: is there a reason why it needs to be turned off and on again frequently enough for this to be necessary?
[05:20] <Tervingi> ms
[05:21] <decci> aeon-ltd: My Application needs frequent rebooting and this is where I am getting stuck
[05:21] <smithw> if I login with a guest session, there's no endless returns, but no keyboard either
[05:21] <WACOMalt> hmm it seems I had to switch to "Main server" software source, rather than "USA server"
[05:21] <Corey> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ <-- That throwing an error for anyone else?
[05:21] <WACOMalt> or at least that kicked it into working... so it seems
[05:21] <WACOMalt> "You triggered the wiki's surge protection by doing too many requests in a short time."
[05:21] <Corey> WACOMalt: Okay, filtering problem.
[05:22] <Corey> Thanks. :-)
[05:22] <WACOMalt> woot yeah we're downloading fine now
[05:22] <raymond_> can someone help me with trying to integrate a web app I'm making with unity?  (or am I asking on the wrong channel?)
[05:22] <WACOMalt> bai folks
[05:22] <wilee-nilee> Corey, hehe just happened to me .
[05:24] <Corey> wilee-nilee: Yeah, the four pages I've hit in half an hour weren't enough to explain that.
[05:32] <somsip> Seems like I have a grub problem. Attempted to purge/reinstall and got "debconf: warning: possible database corruption. Will attempt to repair by adding back missing question grub-pc" on purge, and on reinstall get "dpkg: error processing grub-pc - subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 10". Help please :-(
[05:32] <decci> Will this http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/5017/ssh-to-decrypt-encrypted-lvm-during-headless-server-boot work for me?
[05:33] <Symmetria> hrm, lo all
[05:33] <smithw> cfhowlett, just to let you I solved it. I made the wrong assumption that modifying the nvidia-current.conf file on xord.conf.d wouldn't affect my normal Xorg since it's using the integrated graphics, and set AutoAddDevices to false. changed that and the keyboard is back. (the endless returns are probably a side effect of typing my password with the onscreen keyboard, I guess the last stroke - return - never sends a 'key up' event because of the login proces
[05:33] <smithw> s it starts)
[05:34] <Symmetria> trying to install a bunch of .deb packages from hp which they claim are or ubuntu, but get this every time:
[05:34] <Symmetria> Unpacking replacement cpqacuxe ...
[05:34] <Symmetria> set: Variable name must begin with a letter.
[05:34] <Symmetria> anyone got any ideas?
[05:34] <__OH__> ttf-mscorefonts-installer problem seem can't download .exe files from http://downloads.sourceforge.net/corefonts/
[05:35] <cfhowlett> smithw: congrats.  also, consider doing a write up of the issue for the forums.  cuz you know SOMEONE out there is thinking the exact same way you did.
[05:36] <smithw> cfhowlett, which issue? my confusion on the role played by the files on xorg.conf.d or the key up that the X server never receives? or both?
[05:36] <Tervingi> why are you using source forge for the core fonts?
[05:38] <__OH__> Teringi, I am install Ubuntu restricted extras on Ubuntu Software center, it's include by defualt whe install it
[05:38] <cfhowlett> smithw: hmm.  both but maybe crosslink in the text?
[05:38] <__OH__> and seem there has a problem
[05:39] <__OH__> and i has been re-install Ubuntu 12.04 4 times now because met same problem
[05:39] <n1ckn4me09876543> does anybody know how I can convert .wtv video file in linux?
[05:40] <cfhowlett> __OH__: ubuntu-restricted-extras are not included by default; but why would this cause reinstallation?
[05:40] <Tervingi> I don't understand it going to sourceforge.  That is not a repository.
[05:40] <Tervingi> http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=ttf-mscorefonts-installer
[05:40] <cfhowlett> n1ck
[05:44] <Tervingi> cfhowlett:
[05:44] <Tervingi> http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/pool/contrib/m/msttcorefonts/ttf-mscorefonts-installer_3.4+nmu1_all.deb
[05:44] <Tervingi> ;)
[05:45] <cfhowlett> Tervingi: thanks but I think __oh__ had the issue.  my restricted-extras installed as smooth as a baby's behind.
[05:47] <__OH__> cfhowlett,  i don't knew why it does happen with me, I am use 64 bit and i am downoad file from Terving link, it's seem work and after sudo apt-get upgrade, they  now  again... ttf-mscorefonts-installer: downloading http://downloads.sourceforge.net/corefonts/andale32.exe
[05:48] <__OH__> how to remove ttf-mscorefonts-installer: downloading http://downloads.sourceforge.net/corefonts/andale32.exe, from a process?
[05:48] <Symmetria> urgh, so, like, a package install went wrong, and now every time I try and install a package, it get a message about the original package needing to be reinstalled, and dpkg refuses to get rid of the one thats breaking it
[05:49] <Symmetria> so eery time I try install anything now I get E: The package cpqacuxe needs to be reinstalled, but I can't find an archive for it.
[05:50] <Tervingi> $ cat /etc/default/linux-restricted-modules-common
[05:50] <Tervingi> DISABLED_MODULES="ttf-mscorefonts-installer"
[05:50] <Tervingi> That was for you __OH_______-
[05:51] <Tervingi> You could also define an ip for source forge server
[05:51] <Tervingi> Perhaps you have a DNS issue
[05:51] <__OH__> cat: /etc/default/linux-restricted-modules-common: No such file or directory
[05:53] <__OH__> So, difficult for me now it's act to me again: E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11: Resource temporarily unavailable)
[05:53] <__OH__> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[05:53] <__OH__> How to resolve it?
[05:54] <__OH__> How to kill that process?
[05:55] <Tervingi> fuser /var/lib/dpkg/lock
[05:55] <Tervingi> and then kill it
[05:58] <__OH__> Tervingi, fuser /var/lib/dpkg/lock, and then how to kill it?
[06:01] <Tervingi> so, is this machine critical or do you just want that process dead?
[06:04] <linuxuz3r> what is the font of activities in default theme of gnome-shell ubuntu
[06:05] <Tervingi> yeah, i'm kind of not an expert, so maybe don't try that fuser command.
[06:05] <Tervingi> I pulled off an instant shutdown trying to kill a text file.
[06:06] <__OH__> I wanna stop E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11: Resource temporarily unavailable)
[06:06] <__OH__> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[06:07] <__OH__> this problem is always act to me
[06:07] <Tervingi> act to you?
[06:07] <__OH__> I am show
[06:08] <__OH__> I mean it's always show up
[06:08] <Tervingi> ok, so perhaps this one is safe
[06:08] <Tervingi> "Safety not gauranteed"
[06:08] <Tervingi> $ sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock; sudo dpkg --configure -a
[06:09] <__OH__> Tervingi, /var/lib/dpkg/lock:  root       3006 F.... dpkg
[06:09] <Tervingi> try to install as normal.
[06:09] <__OH__> Kill process 3006 ? (y/N) y
[06:10] <__OH__> then there going to download frle from http://downloads.sourceforge.net/corefonts/
[06:10] <__OH__> again
[06:10] <Tervingi> find the IP of it, and put it in your /etc/hosts
[06:10] <Tervingi> So it doesn't go through dns resolution
[06:10] <zykotick9> __OH__: killing that isn't a great idea...  can you just reboot the system?  much cleaner.
[06:11] <__OH__> zykotick9, reboot is not help because im try it's many times
[06:12] <zykotick9> !aptlock | __OH__
[06:12] <Tervingi> bypass it with the hosts file
[06:12] <linuxuz3r> try deleting /var/lib/dpkg/lock
[06:13] <Tervingi> I think apt is getting locked up because it keeps crashing as a result of the network configuration problem you have, that is preventing proper resolution of the sourceforge address.
[06:15] <__OH__> Tervingi, any ways to cache DNS?
[06:16] <__OH__> or remove repository from http://downloads.sourceforge.net/corefonts/?
[06:16] <Tervingi> See exactly what address is failing
[06:16] <Tervingi> when you run the dpkg
[06:17] <Tervingi> Then,   run        $ dig sourceforge.addresss.here
[06:17] <Tervingi> that will give you the ip address of it
[06:17] <Tervingi> from a whois info
[06:17] <Tervingi> instead of your dns servers
[06:17] <Tervingi> Then put that in your /etc/hosts
[06:18] <Tervingi> on a side note, perhaps you should look at the possibility of some dns hijacking somewhere if that isn't resolving properly.
[06:20] <Tervingi> if the hosts doesn't immediately take effect, restart network service via        sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
[06:20] <linuxuz3r_> hi
[06:21] <ActionParsnip> hosts should take immediate effect, it is consulted every connection
[06:24] <santhom>  HI everyone I installed ubuntu 10.10 as I am having shud down problem with 11.10 and 12.04 . I wanted to install the library libboost-random-dev but is not found in synaptic manager in 10.10 but found in latetr versions
[06:24] <santhom> is there any way to download it?
[06:24] <santhom> anyone?
[06:25] <Tervingi> http://packages.debian.org/wheezy/libboost-random-dev
[06:25] <Tervingi> <-- all about helpful today. w0h000.
[06:25] <ActionParsnip> santhom: Maverick is dead, no longer supported in any way
[06:27] <Tervingi> I would say Google Is Your Friend but I don't believe it anymore. lol
[06:27] <iceroot> !eol | santhom
[06:27] <santhom> @ActionParsnip True, I tried 12.04 and most of the times the computer hangs during shut down process
[06:27] <ActionParsnip> Tervingi: tried duckduckgo ;)
[06:27] <ActionParsnip> santhom: still doesn't make Maverick supported
[06:28] <__OH__> Tervingi, it's not work for me, but thank you for help. still had a problem
[06:29] <Tervingi> bummer.
[06:32] <cfhowlett> !LTS|santhom only is the way to go unless you REALLY need the latest shiny thing.
[06:33] <Tervingi> I wonder why that one is 5 years on desktop....
[06:34] <TJ-> Tervingi: To give enterprises the confidence to adopt it
[06:34] <Tervingi> well I hope they do.
[06:34] <Tervingi> Its not a long trip from that hud "type your command" to "say it"
[06:34] <Tervingi> Which would blow the doors off metro.
[06:35] <TJ-> I think it's a backward step, the HUD. It makes exploring what's installed much more difficult for new users than simply browsing menu categories
[06:35] <TJ-> Once I've got my hand on the mouse I don't want to be dragging it away to type
[06:36] <ActionParsnip> TJ-: how, with menus you need to search to find what you need, with hud you just type and the menu is searched for you
[06:36] <Tervingi> true, but, if the commands people typed and all the menus of programs were created into a text corpus,  perhaps they could do a natural language "bookmark this" that you could use verbally in every program.
[06:36] <Tervingi> Its the best path to a "star trek" computer I have seen.
[06:36] <ActionParsnip> TJ-: great for new menu systems, or ones with lots of submenus
[06:36] <Tervingi> I don't use it much, but it seems to have potential
[06:37] <TJ-> ActionParsnip: You miss the point; If you don't know what's available in some categories you won't know what to type. In menu heirachies you can explore down them and see names of programs and recall those later when you need something to do a particular task
[06:37] <New_> hey guys I got a pdf with a key file and a key code and I realy need to open it ( in ubuntu) how can i do it ? any idea?
[06:37] <ActionParsnip> TJ-: yes but that takes time to learn, with hud there is zero learning
[06:38] <TJ-> The trouble with Unity and the single menu along top is, it was designed for 'bling' on tablets and small screen devices.... not for those of us with multiple HD displays
[06:38] <Tervingi> Right, but that would be unecessary if instead of knowing that someone needs to drill down a menu for increasing a paragraph indent, they could simply type "indent entire paragraph"
[06:38] <ActionParsnip> New_: if evince doesn't do it you can always install the adobe reader
[06:38] <ActionParsnip> TJ-: we're discussing hud...
[06:38] <Tervingi> I think it goes to just telling the computer what you want it to do
[06:38] <TJ-> ActionParsnip: I beg to differ! I *know* what is on this system and I still often can't find it with HUD
[06:38]  * L3top agrees with TJ-
[06:39] <ActionParsnip> TJ-: try using hud in gimp,makes life a tonne easier, especially with the different effects etc
[06:39] <New_>  I have document viewer do i need to install evince
[06:39] <ActionParsnip> New_: that is evince
[06:39] <L3top> I want, at the very least, a heirarchical option.
[06:39] <TJ-> Every time this laptop starts and I log-in the first thing I do is run nvidia-x-settings ... I type "nvidia" and it says "can't find it" ... then 20 seconds later it appears.
[06:39] <Tervingi> I can't find it at all, if the computer just listened to me barking at it, life would be great.
[06:39] <Tervingi> That's where the hud comes in :D
[06:40] <Tervingi> I have ATI, and after my last redo, I just said to heck with the proprietary drivers.
[06:40] <TJ-> So it doesn't even cache/learn what my work flow is and help me
[06:40] <ActionParsnip> Tervingi: they aren't always needed :)
[06:41] <New_> adobe is not open source is it?
[06:41] <TJ-> I also hate how the HUD tries to follow me across multiple screens as I change focus whilst typing, and gets in the way
[06:41] <ActionParsnip> New_: no
[06:41] <Tervingi> why would you change focus while typing?
[06:41] <ActionParsnip> TJ-: some like that, can't please em all
[06:41] <TJ-> I'll be on the LVDS open HUD to search for something, need to check what it is on the other screen in a document for example... and the HUD will move to the other screen and obscure my view
[06:42] <TJ-> I like the concept of HUD... but the execution so far has been like a 10 year backward step in workflow
[06:43] <ActionParsnip> TJ-: then don't use it.....
[06:43] <Tervingi> My hud does not switch unless I click in the other monitor.
[06:43] <TJ-> Tervingi: Why wouldn't I? My brain and me multitask!
[06:44] <Tervingi> lol
[06:44] <Tervingi> oh
[06:44] <Tervingi> yes it does
[06:45] <TJ-> I just checked by bringing it up on the LVDS then moving the mouse to another HD screen and just leaving it over xchat... 2 seconds later the HUD gets in my way!
[06:46] <Tervingi> well, I hate sounding like a fanboy, but your usage seems a bit bizarre
[06:46] <Tervingi> doing a command in one program while focusing on another seems odd
[06:46] <TJ-> I'm getting on with it better than when I first upgraded to it, and I try to find ways to work with it, but I keep getting stopped from doing things fluidly that I never had issues with previously
[06:46] <TJ-> Why? It's a multi-tasking OS !
[06:47] <TJ-> I have about 10 things going at once mostly and I'm moving between them constantly as they call on my input
[06:47] <TJ-> As I said earlier - HUD and Unity are for small-screen single-use devices
[06:48] <Tervingi> you can disable it in compiz
[06:48] <TJ-> I know, but that isn't practical
[06:48] <TJ-> How can I fix bugs if I avoid using the things that contain the bugs?
[06:48] <Tervingi> lol
[06:49] <Tervingi> That's how you fix bug #1 man.. Come on :D
[06:49] <ActionParsnip> TJ-: if you don't like an app, don't use it
[06:49] <TJ-> Tervingi: I fixed #1 years ago!
[06:49] <ActionParsnip> TJ-: you are restricting your own choice by sticking to what is given to you
[06:49] <TJ-> Microsoft has 0% of my market!
[06:49] <AL13N> WTF! did anyone see this? http://blog.mariadb.org/disappearing-test-cases/
[06:49] <AL13N> (08:53:29) AL13N: oracle is close sourcing more of mysql, all distro's should switch to mariadb as default
[06:49] <TJ-> ActionParsnip: I'm an Ubuntu developer! I'd be a right pratt not using the standard software!
[06:49] <ActionParsnip> TJ-: a tonne of apps in Ubuntu are not to my liking or do what I need, I just swap them out for better alternatives (imho)
[06:50] <chandru_in> When using thinkpad's touchpad with Ubuntu, the pointer shivers when charging but not when on battery. Is this a known issue?
[06:50] <Tervingi> I think the HUD has great potential if it becomes more natural language.
[06:50] <TJ-> Hi Bryan
[06:50] <ActionParsnip> chandru_in: what make and model ?
[06:50] <TJ-> chandru_in: Probably it's cold fusion :p
[06:50] <chandru_in> ActionParsnip, Thinkpad X220
[06:51] <ActionParsnip> chandru_in: let me search
[06:51] <chandru_in> TJ-, cold fusion?
[06:51] <TJ-> chandru_in: humour :)
[06:51] <Tervingi> the pointer gets cold when you pour juice on it.
[06:52] <chandru_in> :D
[06:52] <TJ-> chandru_in: is the power supply charger on the same desk/surface as the laptop?
[06:52] <ActionParsnip> chandru_in: run:   gksudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/10-synaptics.conf      and add the text at the bottom of this post: https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=138360
[06:52] <chandru_in> tj yes
[06:53] <chandru_in> TJ-, yes
[06:53] <TJ-> chandru_in: I'm just wondering if it could be some kind of physical vibration from the power supply... far out idea I know, but...!
[06:53] <chandru_in> Will try ActionParsnip's suggestion
[06:53] <ActionParsnip> chandru_in: do you have the latest BIOS too?
[06:54] <crimsonmane> may i have a re-cap of the current discussion (just entered)
[06:54] <chandru_in> ActionParsnip, will try upgrading too
[06:54] <ActionParsnip> chandru_in: http://forums.lenovo.com/t5/X-Series-Tablet-ThinkPad-Laptops/Jumpy-Thinkpad-X220-Tablet-Touchpad/td-p/472737
[06:55] <Tervingi> try disabling the touch pad, and then pointing stick.  Each of them one at a time while you plug it in.
[06:55] <Tervingi> That seems hardware
[06:55] <TJ-> chandru_in: see this http://forums.lenovo.com/t5/X-Series-Tablet-ThinkPad-Laptops/Jumpy-Thinkpad-X220-Tablet-Touchpad/td-p/472737
[06:55] <Tervingi> perhaps it is the keyboard or palmrest
[06:55] <chandru_in> TJ-, ActionParsnip, what did you guys Google for? I've been trying for a day with no luck!
[06:55] <ActionParsnip> Its something to do with some optiiser or somethng (sounds windows based)
[06:55] <TJ-> chandru_in: "thinkpad x220 shaky mouse pointer"
[06:56] <chandru_in> ah ok
[06:56] <ActionParsnip> chandru_in: https://duckduckgo.com/?q=Thinkpad+X220+linux+touchpad
[06:56] <chandru_in> Tried shivering :(
[06:56] <ActionParsnip> haha google? What is this 2006?
[06:56] <Tervingi> did it work and fix it?
[06:56] <chandru_in> Tervingi, will be trying soon
[06:56] <Tervingi> I like Qrobe.it for searches
[06:56] <SchekiL> SelamunAleyküm.
[06:56] <Tervingi> never ending results, but otherwise like duck duck go.
[06:56] <ActionParsnip> Tervingi: the bang syntax in duckduckgo is phenominal
[06:57] <Tervingi> bang syntax
[06:57] <ActionParsnip> Tervingi: indeed
[06:57] <ActionParsnip> Tervingi: https://duckduckgo.com/bang.html
[06:57] <Tervingi> reading now
[06:58] <ActionParsnip> Tervingi: its very extensive
[06:58] <ActionParsnip> e.g:   !ppa unity           will show all the launchpad PPAs with unity
[06:58] <ActionParsnip> google can't do anythinig like that
[06:59] <ActionParsnip> plus it doesn't bubble or track you
[06:59] <Tervingi> wow
[06:59] <Tervingi> I do thousands of searches a week I suspect.
[06:59] <ActionParsnip> Tervingi: yes, wow
[06:59] <Tervingi> Glad to have that
[07:00] <ActionParsnip> Tervingi: google sucks, people just think its the way, you can search google from duckduckgo with: !g  and google images with !gi
[07:00] <TJ-> Google has the equivilent, as does Bing. "site:xxxxx"
[07:00] <Guest98268> hi all can anybody tell me how to install powerdvd in ubuntu 12.04.
[07:00] <Tervingi> no, this seems to be search within a categorical subset
[07:00] <Tervingi> I really can use that to filter out garbage.
[07:00] <ActionParsnip> Guest98268: why would you need it?
[07:00] <Tervingi> although qrobe is really good
[07:00] <crimsonmane> Guest98268: you don't need powerdvd when you're running linux. what project are you trying to accomplish? there's a native way to do it.
[07:01] <ActionParsnip> Tervingi: you can order by date site added and so forth too
[07:01] <chandru_in> None of that works :(
[07:01] <ActionParsnip> Guest98268: once you install the DVD decoder, any player can play DVD
[07:01] <Guest98268> ActionParsnip: its the best player i found which gives more clarity when cmp to vlc and other players
[07:01] <MirtheN> Guest98268: o would recomend VLC/Videolan in linux, does everything powerdvd will do and then some
[07:01] <Tervingi> for instance, I just searched "acid !food" and its all relevant to food acids, no chemicals or ads or murder mysteries
[07:02] <ActionParsnip> Guest98268: VLC will also knock the screensaver timeout off :)
[07:02] <crimsonmane> i think you're point on clarity is an imagined one.
[07:02] <MirtheN> switched from powerdvd to vlc years ago
[07:03] <ActionParsnip> Guest98268: its not in the wine appdb but considering the amount of native players for Linux why do you want to hold onto power dvd???
[07:03] <Tervingi> Do you have a windows license?
[07:03] <ActionParsnip> Tervingi: indeed
[07:03] <Tervingi> you could virtual box it
[07:03] <ActionParsnip> Tervingi: to the food bit
[07:04] <lotuspsychje> howcome ubuntu-restrited-extras does not install by default?
[07:05] <ActionParsnip> Guest98268: sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get install libdvdread4; sudo /usr/share/doc/libdvdread4/install-css.sh; sudo apt-get upgrade
[07:05] <Guest98268> i'm using vlc &  powerdvd player on windows7, when cmp to vlc powerdvd player gives more clarity & sounds.
[07:05] <Tervingi> lol
[07:05] <ActionParsnip> lotuspsychje: licensing
[07:05] <Tervingi> Guest98268
[07:05] <Guest98268> Tervingi: yes
[07:05] <lotuspsychje> ActionParsnip: is that the option one can enable at install process? about other party software
[07:05] <Tervingi> Install Windows in a VM in Virtual BOX
[07:05] <ActionParsnip> Guest98268: you are free to try it in wine but I doubt it will work. Don't forget that linux is a completely different OS with differnet drivers and display methods
[07:06] <MirtheN> thats cause in vlc you have to actually know how to set the video up to your liking, you can make it just as clear/crisp/whatever as powerdvd will do, just need to enable advanced options
[07:06] <Tervingi> then run it with power dvd, hit ctrl+l
[07:06] <Tervingi> and it will look just like a Linux app
[07:06] <Tervingi> but you don't have to worry about a hassle getting it to work
[07:06] <Guest98268> ok
[07:06] <ActionParsnip> lotuspsychje: yes, it is downloaded from the repos, it cannot be added to the ISO for licensing issues around the globe. Not all countries allow MP3 codecs etc
[07:06] <Tervingi> XP would be better so you aren't wasting a ton of space and cpu
[07:06] <captine> hi all.  My Bluetooth doesnt seem to be picked up by 12.04.  Am using an Acer Aspire 4755G with a broadcom Bluetooth (I believe)
[07:06] <lotuspsychje> ActionParsnip: ok tnx understood
[07:06] <MirtheN> yeah can get one of the 'stipped' down versions of xp
[07:07] <Israfel> This morning's update caused my chrome to not play audio. Works in Firefox. I'm beginning to tire of Chrome "updates" breaking everything.
[07:07] <Guest98268> Tervingi: so without wind/ vm i cant install this right?
[07:07] <ActionParsnip> captine: if you run:  dmesg | grep -i blue     is it mentioned?
[07:07] <Tervingi> If it is a regular Windows app, then you would need either Wine or Virtual Machine.
[07:07] <MirtheN> you can try using wine to install and run it, if it doesnt even get close to running using wine then you are stuck in a VM with windows
[07:07] <Tervingi> Virtual machine is the only option if you want the hardware acceleration you are mentioning for the picture and sound
[07:08] <Tervingi> Power DVD has linux software, perhaps they have a native version
[07:08] <test--abc> ?
[07:08] <ActionParsnip> Israfel: if you close all instances of the browser and rename ~/.config/google-chrome     then rerun, is it better
[07:08] <Guest98268> ok
[07:08] <Guest50596><EMAIL_ADDRESS>[07:08] <lotuspsychje> lol
[07:08] <Guest50596> hi
[07:08] <captine> ActionParsnip, yes, it does show up (http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/1153998/)
[07:08] <Guest50596> yes
[07:08] <Guest50596> new
[07:08] <ActionParsnip> Guest98268: so you are going to run both Windows and Linux at the same time for the sake of a DVD playback app....?
[07:09] <diminoten> anyone ever try playing video games in a virtual  machine?
[07:09] <diminoten> sounds super novel
[07:09] <Guest50596> no
[07:09] <test--abc> how remove bash center - Software available for download
[07:09] <ActionParsnip> diminoten: 2D should be ok, 3D I believe will struggle
[07:09] <Tervingi> nothing like diablo 1 on a big screen baby!
[07:09] <lotuspsychje> !playonlinux | diminoten
[07:09] <captine> ActionParsnip, but I dont seem to be able to turn it on in Ubuntu (under Bluetooth Settings, it says Bluetooth is disabled)
[07:09] <diminoten> playonlinux sounds bleh
[07:09] <lotuspsychje> !info playonlinux | diminoten
[07:09] <test--abc> help..
[07:09] <Guest50596> bleuthoot
[07:09] <Tervingi> bleck
[07:10] <Tervingi> don't go with play on linux
[07:10] <ActionParsnip> captine: can you pastebin the output of:  lsusb; lsb_release -a; uname -a       Thanks
[07:10] <Tervingi> it disempowers you through obfuscation of the workings of your os
[07:10] <Guest50596> thinks
[07:10] <Guest98268> ActionParsnip: not only for the sake of apps. Most of the time i will use linux, if something is not working on linux then i will login in windows..
[07:10] <Tervingi> Virtual box can do hardware acceleration
[07:10] <diminoten> yeah
[07:10] <diminoten> !
[07:10] <diminoten> gonna try it and report results
[07:10] <Tervingi> up to 256mb video memory
[07:10] <ActionParsnip> Guest98268: I guess, but Linux can do DVD playback just fine
[07:10] <diminoten> good enough for league of legends!
[07:11] <MykleSea> hi
[07:11] <ActionParsnip> hi MykleSea
[07:11] <MykleSea> can somebody help me with something regarding ubuntu
[07:11] <captine> ActionParsnip, please see http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/1154003/
[07:11] <Guest98268> ActionParsnip: i will do the steps u game me b4
[07:11] <MirtheN> Guest98268: http://shop.canonical.com/powerdvd.pdf
[07:11] <lotuspsychje> MykleSea:just ask your question mate
[07:11] <diminoten> wrong channel man!
[07:11] <diminoten> lol
[07:12] <ActionParsnip> captine: ok and the output of:  lspci      Thanks
[07:12] <MykleSea> I am trying to automount  my usb to my ubuntu server using 'usbmount'...  ive installed it... but once i plug in my usb,  usb0 continues to be an empty directory.. how do i fix this?  usb0-7 are all empty
[07:13] <MykleSea> i will be  plugging in and unplugging my usb every so often which is why i wnat to use usbmount
[07:13] <captine> ActionParsnip, http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/1154004/  Thanks for looking into this.  Please let me know what you are looking for etc?
[07:13] <lotuspsychje> MykleSea:in what format are your usb sticks?
[07:13] <MykleSea> i believe its ntfs
[07:13] <ActionParsnip> MykleSea: when you come to unplug it, do you unmount it and eject it?
[07:13] <MykleSea> i can manually mount it
[07:13] <lotuspsychje> !ntfs | MykleSea
[07:14] <MykleSea> yes i unmount
[07:15] <MykleSea> i do not have any usb mounted at this moment. they are all unmounted.. but my usb0  will continue being empty even if i uninstall and install again
[07:16] <ActionParsnip> captine: the pastebins are all the detected hardware in the system
[07:16] <Tervingi> MykleSea
[07:16] <Tervingi> fdisk -l
[07:16] <MykleSea> yes
[07:16] <Tervingi> That will you show the device it is
[07:16] <MykleSea> yes
[07:17] <Tervingi> what device is it
[07:17] <MykleSea> ive done that.  ive manually mounted it using thtabefore.. but i dont want to manually mount it every time
[07:17] <MykleSea>  its called "/dev/sdh1
[07:17] <TJ-> anyone else getting "You triggered the wiki's surge protection by doing too many requests in a short time." from  https://help.ubuntu.com
[07:17] <MykleSea> yes i keep getting that
[07:17] <MykleSea> which is why im here asking :P
[07:18] <lotuspsychje> TJ-:working fine here on firefox
[07:20] <TJ-> lotuspsychje: strange... apparently one request is too many :D
[07:20] <ActionParsnip> "Canonical is in the process of moving out of one data centre and into a new one."   nice
[07:20] <lotuspsychje> TJ-:on what browser?
[07:20] <rs3> Hi all, my laptop stutters (mouse input, scrolling, screen updates, and sound) every ten seconds.  Does this on x86-pae and amd64 installs of 12.04.  Updated, no change.  No events show up when I monitor Xorg.0.log or syslog.  Using an Intel Core 2 Duo laptop with Intel 4500MHD graphics accelerator.  Any ideas?
[07:20] <TJ-> ActionParsnip: I thought the move was over now, according to the mailing-list yesterday
[07:20] <TJ-> lotuspsychje: Firefox
[07:20] <Tervingi> did you edit fstab Myklesea?
[07:20] <lotuspsychje> TJ-:tryed it on another browser?
[07:20] <ActionParsnip> tj-; just got that now
[07:20] <MykleSea> i did.. but i removed my edit
[07:20] <MykleSea> its back to its original
[07:20] <lotuspsychje> rs3:previous default Os on the laptop?
[07:20] <TJ-> OK, not just me. I think the front-end caching load-balancers don't have connections to the web servers yet... HTTP 503
[07:20] <ActionParsnip> captine: kinda similar: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/bluez-utils/+bug/284982
[07:20] <TJ-> General capacity issue, not just me
[07:20] <rs3> lotuspsychje: Windows :/  haha.  Debian Wheezy does the same thing as Ubuntu 12.04 in this case, though.  Windows does not.
[07:20] <Tervingi> you could just type #mount -a
[07:20] <lotuspsychje> rs3:wich version of windows?
[07:20] <TheOnlyLix> ok so guess what
[07:20] <MykleSea> ive done  mount -a
[07:20] <Tervingi> if you leave the edit in fstab
[17:26] <ghrost> Poptet, can you ping any website?
[17:26] <gianni_777> thank you sandyd
[17:26] <L3top> Potet: are you connected directly to the router/modem or is it possibly behind a firewall?
[17:26] <blazingtruth_> hey all, i'm getting this message at the end of my updates: W: GPG error: http://ppa.launchpad.net precise Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 8CD60EC948894010
[17:26] <gianni_777> yes is the flash plugin ..
[17:27] <L3top> ghrost: he has internet access... just not the web admin for the device
[17:27] <Potet> Yeah, it works
[17:27] <gianni_777> i've installed them in firefox but i can't see nothing yet
[17:27] <Psi-Jack> Potet: Like I said, ##networking is your channel for that device. It's nothing related to Ubuntu at all.
[17:27] <sandyd> gianni_777, does flash work with other flash sites?
[17:29] <FreeMansMind> How do I make sure that my Graphic card driver is installed?
[17:29] <vikram> i installed moc from source ... but when i run it gives FATAL_ERROR: No valid sound driver
[17:29] <Potet> Psi-Jack, okay, I'm writing there now, just thought I could stay around when I got help. :)
[17:29] <gianni_777> sandyd oh...what can ido ??
[17:29] <sandyd> gianni_777, does the flash ad at http://www.adobe.com/software/flash/about/ show up?
[17:31] <Frieds> L3top, it says gflrx_pci
[17:31] <Frieds> so it looks like it's swapped over right
[17:31] <L3top> then we are good Frieds :)
[17:31] <Frieds> sweet
[17:31] <tab1293> is packages.ubuntu.com down for anyone else?
[17:31] <gianni_777> sandyd i'll try it right away
[17:31] <Frieds> beside spending hours reading the wiki, any advice for a newb to learn linux
[17:31] <sandyd> tab1293, must be the server move
[17:31] <sandyd> its down for me as well
[17:31] <ghrost> tab1293, down here
[17:31] <truexfan81> are the ppas down also?
[17:31] <L3top> Frieds: look at all the bash scripts already on your machine. Run individual commands, figure out what they do. Do this in a virtual environment so if you destroy things you are safe.
[17:31] <Frieds> as long as I don't su/sudo myself
[17:31] <tab1293> sandyd, how can i install a specific package and its deps from the Quantal repos? i would usually just go to packages.ubuntu.com
[17:31] <vikram>  i installed moc (music on console ) from source ... but when i run it gives FATAL_ERROR: No valid sound driver
[17:31] <L3top> Frieds: thats were all the fun is :)
[17:31] <sandyd> tab1293, what package?
[17:31] <Frieds> I'm running this on a seperate box taht I can screw around with just to learn *nix again
[17:31] <tab1293> python-libtorrent sandyd
[17:31] <datruth_> Wow can't believe this is complicated
[17:32] <Frieds> I used to use FBSD years ago (think like 10+) so I'm loving the immersion in *nix culture again
[17:32] <L3top> Frieds: I would load up a virtual machine (virtualbox kvm vmware) and blow things up in there.
[17:32] <sandyd> apt-get build-dep python-libtorrent , tab1293
[17:32] <Frieds> but where's the fun in that?
[17:32] <blazingtruth_> hey guys, can i get some help here?  | W: GPG error: http://ppa.launchpad.net precise Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 8CD60EC948894010
[17:33] <Frieds> I want to be able to blow up my PC instead of using the Windows VM Machine on my laptop
[17:33] <L3top> Frieds: install ubuntu inside ubuntu and go reap havoc... because you can take snapshots, so when you blow things up, just reload the snapshot. Saves a lot of time.
[17:33] <KommaH> Hey all. I have a question.
[17:33] <L3top> Frieds: Use the vm inside of Ubuntu
[17:33] <Frieds> any good vmwares you can recommend then?
[17:33] <L3top> not windows
[17:34] <sandyd> KommaH, ask away
[17:34] <Frieds> there's a VM built in?
[17:34] <L3top> kvm
[17:34] <KommaH> sandyd: Will do. Gimmie a sec to type. :p
[17:34] <FreeMansMind> anyone?
[17:34] <Frieds> lol <<---- clearly you can see how newbish I am here
[17:34] <Wild_Man> Frieds, I use virtualbax from there site
[17:34] <L3top> virtualbox is more gui friendly for configuration Frieds.
[17:34] <sandyd> blazingtruth_, sudo apt-key adv --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com --recv-keys 8CD60EC948894010
[17:34] <KommaH> I need to run a script on startup. It needs to be in screen and run as another user (not root). How do I do this?
[17:34] <dougl> err how do I install a new hard drive in my 12.04 install? there is no fstab anymore and I want ext4 fs not 3 dont I?
[17:35] <blazingtruth> hey all
[17:35] <LostSoul> i wish you all a very nice day =)
[17:35] <Frieds> Have a fantastic Day man
[17:35] <L3top> sandyd: I think blazingtruth would just need 48894010 in that
[17:35] <blazingtruth> sorry, i'm here. what'd i miss?
[17:36] <sandyd> blazingtruth, sudo apt-key adv --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com --recv-keys 48894010
[17:36] <sandyd> whoops
[17:36] <sandyd> didn't see that.
[17:36] <L3top> :)
[17:36] <sandyd> thanks L3top
[17:36] <vikram> where should i go ..??
[17:38] <Kihokki> sandyd, There was no effect :/ I got correct resolution working by  installing kernel 3.4.4 but no 2D acceleration and no VGA output
[17:38] <gianni_777> sandyd thank you very much!! it works ...i've downloaded it just now and it works..
[17:39] <blazingtruth> It's not working, L3top
[17:39] <Vlan_> anyone with a SSD drive experiencing low write/read values even with AHCI support enabled?
[17:39] <gianni_777> have a nice day!!
[17:39] <gianni_777> hi
[17:39] <blazingtruth> oh, nevermind
[17:39] <blazingtruth> copy pasted and it worked
[17:40] <sandyd> Kihokki, file a bug
[17:40] <blazingtruth> thank you :)
[17:40] <L3top> gpg --keyserver pgp.mit.edu --recv-keys 48894010; gpg --export --armor 48894010 | apt-key add -              blazingtruth
[17:40] <Kihokki> sandyd, How?
[17:40] <L3top> ok then
[17:40] <sandyd> Kihokki, some of the older HW support is a bit iffy at times
[17:40] <Kihokki> To launchpad?
[17:40] <sandyd> Kihokki, yes
[17:40] <L3top> Ignore that big one then blazingtruth.
[17:41] <blazingtruth> OK. I'm also looking to improve battery life. would you have any recommendations?
[17:41] <L3top> lubuntu... lol
[17:42] <sandyd> xubuntu as well
[17:43] <sandyd> blazingtruth, you might also want to turn down the graphical effects
[17:43] <sandyd> those consume quite a lot of battery
[17:43] <blazingtruth> i think my problem is with nvidia
[17:43] <Aquethys> >___________________________________________<
[17:44] <Aquethys> Oh
[17:44] <Aquethys> Yay :D Ungagged
[17:44] <Aquethys> Guys I have a question! Trying to install Ubuntu 12.04 and on the step where I can boot into Ubuntu and then click the Install Ubuntu on the desktop.
[17:45] <Aquethys> Do I click install in windows or the other one
[17:45] <Aquethys> (choose a partition)
[17:46] <sandyd> Aquethys, what is your partition setup?
[17:46] <Aquethys> Err not sure. I think it's all C drive
[17:46] <Aquethys> for windows 8
[17:46] <sandyd> Aquethys, then select windows
[17:47] <chewey> I've just screwed myself - with lots of help by EFI: After installing Ubuntu with an EFI parition, the F2 key is dead and the F12 key of the initial boot screen send me to a "graphical" boot menu only containing "ubuntu".
[17:47] <chewey> Any idea how I can get it to boot from an external drive again?
[17:47] <chewey> (it's a Fujitsu Lifebook AH532 NG)
[17:48] <OerHeks> Aquethys, windows8 isn't out yet, so why do you think we can help?
[17:48] <sandyd> *alongside windows
[17:48] <Aquethys> I will screenshot it and post it for you, just to be safe :P
[17:48] <Aquethys> Well it's similar to windows 7..
[17:49] <Aquethys> Here's the partition thing
[17:49] <Aquethys> https://dl.dropbox.com/u/74356743/partitions.PNG
[17:49] <Aquethys> Install inside windows?
[17:49] <sandyd> Aquethys, you have the maximum amount of partitions for a MBR partition table
[17:49] <Aquethys> Is that bad?
[17:50] <Aquethys> can I remove one (like the unallocated? idk how that got there)
[17:50] <sandyd> well, you can't install Ubuntu on a partition Aquethys
[17:50] <Aquethys> so install alongside windows?
[17:51] <sandyd> Aquethys, you can only install via wubi I believe
[17:51] <OerHeks> you can, on 'unallocated'
[17:51] <Aquethys> oh
[17:51] <Aquethys> How big of a difference is there?
[17:51] <sandyd> OerHeks, I believe the uallocated is unpartitioned space
[17:51] <ghrost> sandyd, but like you said he can't use that partition
[17:52] <sandyd> ghrost, wubi
[17:52] <sandyd> installs inside windows.
[17:52] <The_Cog> All 4 primary partitions are used, so he can't get at the unused 23 Gig
[17:52] <sandyd> Aquethys, not sure, youll have to ask someone else
[17:52] <OerHeks> this screen is not from a wubi install, but the normal (sidebyside) install
[17:52] <ghrost> sandyd, MBR does not support more than 4 partitions
[17:52] <sandyd> Never used wubi
[17:52] <Aquethys> What's mbr
[17:52] <L3top> wubi is da debil.
[17:52] <L3top> Aquethys: master boot record
[17:52] <sandyd> ghrost, that is what I said
[17:52] <sandyd> which is why I am telling Aquethys to install via wubi
[17:52] <Aquethys> Oh
[17:52] <Aquethys> Okay
[17:53] <ghrost> sandyd, so he needs a extended partition
[17:53] <OerHeks> ghrost +1
[17:53] <Aquethys> Well the point of me installing Ubuntu is to code Android so will it matter whether it's Wubi or not?
[17:53] <sandyd> because there is no other way Aquethys can install
[17:53] <Aquethys> I still would prefer a permanent
[17:53] <sandyd> You can't create an extended partition when you already have 4 partitions.
[17:53] <L3top> ghrost: +2
[17:53] <Wild_Man> Aquethys the only way you can install without using wubi is to delete one of your primary partitions
[17:54] <ghrost> L3top, sorry I'm new here, what is that +number
[17:54] <sandyd> Aquethys, I would probably remove the HP tools partition
[17:54] <sandyd> and save the stuff from there
[17:54] <L3top> means I second your position ghrost
[17:54] <OerHeks> ghrost, +1 means we agree with you
[17:54] <Aquethys> Is that an important partition?
[17:54] <ghrost> L3top, :)
[17:54] <Wild_Man> Aquethys, usually people delete the recovery partition after making there recovery cd's of window
[17:54] <Sidewinder1> ghrost, Usually "+1" means 'I agree'.
[17:54] <Aquethys> Oh could you walk me through that Wald Man
[17:55] <Aquethys> Wild* I need to do that :P
[17:55]  * L3top pretends there are two people here who agree.
[17:55] <Sidewinder1> ;-)
[17:55] <sandyd> :D
[17:55] <BluesKaj> Wild_Man, I count 3 primaries , he can use the unallocated one , unless the recovery counts as aprimary
[17:56] <Aquethys> there's 3 primaries
[17:56] <Aquethys> At least that's what I see in the disk management
[17:56] <BluesKaj> he's allowed 4 primaries
[17:56] <sandyd> wait, isn't system reserved one?
[17:56] <ghrost> Blueskaj, Recovery( Primary partition)
[17:56] <Aquethys> Oh
[17:56] <Aquethys> crud you're right sandy lol
[17:57] <Aquethys> Mousing over it it is primary
[17:57] <Aquethys> uh oh
[17:57] <Aquethys> so what's HP Tools used for? Can I just format it?
[17:57] <sandyd> Aquethys, so you should follow Wild_Man 's advice, and remove the recovery partition
[17:57] <sandyd> Assuming you have made recovery discs that is
[17:57] <Aquethys> How do I do that? Ihaven't yet
[17:57] <ghrost> Aquethys, it is usually diagnostic stuff
[17:57] <Aquethys> make a recovery disk
[17:57] <Wild_Man> Sandyd, I am sure it is a primary partition but it is hard to tell from the screenshot
[17:57] <Aquethys> I have an hp 4.7GB DVD now
[17:57] <sandyd> You can either remove the recovery or the HP tools partition.
[17:58] <BluesKaj> ghrost, ok, but most ppl dump the windows recovery partition ..it's quite useless anyway
[17:58] <Kihokki> sandyd,  I found this https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/1025719 but where are the updates then?
[17:58] <ghrost> BluesKaj, yes I think he can get rid of recovery andredieb hp_tools
[17:58] <Wild_Man> Aquethys, make sure to create your recovery cd's first
[17:58] <sandyd> Kihokki, hasn't been [aclaged yet
[17:58] <sandyd> *packaged
[17:58] <Aquethys> how? :|
[17:59] <Aquethys> it's 16GB and I have a bunch of 4.7GB CDs...is that okay?
[17:59] <sandyd> Aquethys, http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/document?cc=us&lc=en&docname=c01867124
[17:59] <Wild_Man> Aquethys, type recovery cd into the help window and it will tell you how
[17:59] <sandyd> Aquethys, yes
[17:59] <Aquethys> thanks
[17:59] <BluesKaj> ghrost, exactly
[17:59] <Kihokki> sandyd, Do you know when? I've waited this for about 3 months
[18:00] <sandyd> Kihokki, no idea, you will have to ask MOTU bout that
[18:00] <sandyd> or whoever is the maintainer of that package
[18:01] <Kihokki> sandyd, Okay, well I will look for them :p
[18:03] <petisnnake> Hello, I installed python 3.1, apache2 and mod_wsgi enabled. What do I need to do next to actually have an app running on my localhost?
[18:03] <samfromat> i'm getting some errors continuously. can anyone tell what these means. http://pastebin.com/My3Pxmup
[18:03] <Aquethys> How do I get to HP recovery manager in windows 8? :|
[18:04] <Wild_Man> Aquethys, type recovery cd into help or search and it should lead you to it
[18:04] <Jarrydx26> Aquethys: You will find it on HP website :)
[18:05] <wilee-nilee> Aquethys, if you are still within the HP insurance I would call them I suspect you can get a full OEM recovery disc set rather cheap probably 30$, for a secondary backup as well just to be covered
[18:06] <Aquethys> brb
[18:07] <Jarrydx26> My HP laptop is 2 years old .  Plus i been using it without battery for a year and no problems at all
[18:07] <diminoten> what are these three packages? GMP 4.2+, MPFR 2.4.0+ and MPC 0.8.0+
[18:08] <diminoten> nevermidn
[18:09] <Jarrydx26> GIMP 4.2 ? I'm still using GIMP 2.6 , i need a upgrade
[18:10] <L3top> Jarrydx26: I believe gmp is gnome music player
[18:10] <eme442> hello. how do i make all wireless be turned off by default at bootup on my laptop?
[18:10] <samfromat> i have got these errors. can anyone tell me what these mean? http://pastebin.com/My3Pxmup
[18:11] <Kihokki> sandyd, My hands are shaking, I enabled precice-proposed updates and the package showed up in proposed drivers list! But what is DKMS driver?
[18:11] <sandyd> Kihokki, auto build
[18:11] <sandyd> it rebuilds itself each kernel update
[18:11] <sandyd> is safe and normal
[18:11] <Kihokki> So, I just need to update my kernel? How?
[18:11] <Jarrydx26> Oh L3top lol ,i dont have my glasses on ,thanks for the correction
[18:12] <sandyd> Kihokki, you don't need to
[18:12] <Wild_Man> eme442, go to network manager top right corner of the screen and click on enable wireless to uncheck it
[18:12] <sandyd> Kihokki, just install the proposed driver :)
[18:12] <sandyd> Ubuntu manages the rest
[18:13] <Kihokki> sandyd, I did that, all that remains is restart? :D
[18:13] <sandyd> Kihokki, yes
[18:13] <Kihokki> Horray! Well I hope this works now, restarting now...
[18:13] <Wild_Man> Kihokki, cross your fingers
[18:14] <tux__> hello, i am new to lvm ... i made a mistake and named my lvm at installation wrong. now i changed the names with lvmrename and ubuntu starts in grub rescue mode. how can i repair grub?
[18:14] <Newtothis> Quick question: I installed Ubuntu via the Windows installer because my computer was being difficult regarding any other installation methods, and now I'd like to know how to make Ubuntu the only operating system on my machine. Any help?
[18:15] <k1l> Newtothis: make a new install
[18:16] <samfromat> Newtothis, Just boot your computer with ubuntu media(cd/dvd) and follow installation method. choose the windows partition for installation.
[18:16] <k1l> Newtothis: the wubi isntall is just a container inside the windows partition.
[18:17] <eme442> @Wild_Man: ok, thanx
[18:17] <Newtothis> samfromat: That's the thing, my computer doesn't like booting from the flash drive, and we can't get a CD to burn properly.
[18:18] <sandyd> Newtothis, can't get a cd to burn properly?
[18:18] <Jordan_U> Newtothis: How did you try to burn a CD?
[18:18] <sandyd> Newtothis, tried imgburn? http://www.imgburn.com/
[18:19] <Newtothis> Ah. I had just used the windows one...
[18:19] <samfromat> Newtothis: if you want to say that you can't use any of the physical mediam to boot your computer, then there is network boot system. sombody other than me might help you.
[18:20] <fijil> hhi
[18:20] <nejode> Newtothis, you have to be careful when you burn the CD... make sure you burn it as "iso image"
[18:21] <Newtothis> I'm gonna see if I can't make the CD burn right this time... it might even be easier to burn it on Ubuntu itsself...
[18:21] <Sniper_5> If anyone has some free time I could really use some help with Eclipse
[18:21] <loganrun> I am having issues with two new SATA hard drives. I am thinking it might be an issue with the Ubuntu drivers or something. Does anyone understand the errors in the dmesg log? http://pastebin.com/dVL54A4M
[18:22] <Jarrydx26> Sniper_5 try Netbeans , its much less on errors than eclipse
[18:22] <Sniper_5> Im trying to set up Android SDK and ADT
[18:22] <loganrun> I am thinking of trying an older version of ubuntu or something, not sure what to do
[18:23] <loganrun> I have tried switching around the cables, but that didn't help
[18:23] <sandyd> loganrun, its an interface problem
[18:23] <Sniper_5> Does NetBeans accept the Android SDK and ADT like Eclipse? Im new to developing so I was going to use the guides for Eclipse which is why I chose that
[18:23] <sandyd> Either your interface has dust or something, or your HDDs are shot
[18:24] <loganrun> sandyd: is it a hardware or software issue though. issue with the motherboard cabels or what
[18:24] <sandyd> hardware
[18:24] <sandyd> loganrun, try swaping the sata cable
[18:24] <sandyd> *ports
[18:24] <raven> how to mount partitions of a raw diskdump?
[18:24] <loganrun> sandyd: I hooked the harddrives up to another system through a eternal usb/sata interface and ran the seagate test on them and they came out fine
[18:25] <sandyd> loganrun, you have an intel sandybridge chipset?
[18:25] <Jarrydx26> Sniper_5 i suggest netbeans , I'm sure there is an Android plugin avaliable for it , but its up to you :)
[18:25] <sandyd> what MB model is it?
[18:25] <loganrun> sandyd: i did try swapping the cables around and plugging them into different ports, but that didn't seem to solve it, the CPU is dual core Intel, should be in the dmesg log, forget teh actual make of it
[18:26] <Sniper_5> Ill gladly try it Jarrydx26, Im open to anything right now because Im used to everything on 10.10, I cant get it working on Eclipse
[18:27] <loganrun> sandyd: the motherboard is gigabyte ga -965p-s3
[18:27] <Guest35233> hi
[18:27] <Sidewinder1> Newtothis, First, md5sum your ISO to make sure it's correct; then, when burning, make sure to burn at the slowest speed.
[18:27] <sandyd> loganrun, we can't help you here, due to the fact that it isn't a ubuntu (software) problem
[18:28] <sandyd> The best thing to do is to call up Gigabyte, and ask them, or else ask in ##harware
[18:28] <loganrun> sandyd: o.k but I just wanted to make sure it was not a driver incompatibility issue with the motherboard, how can you tell
[18:28] <sandyd> *hardware
[18:28] <Guest35233> i need new distro for ordinary work....any suggest?:)
[18:29] <loganrun> sandyd: o.k. I'll try on hardware
[18:29] <sandyd> loganrun, DRDY ERR, ICRC ABRT, and other errors in the dmesg are an indicator of either HW failure or problems
[18:29] <Guest35233> ?!
[18:30] <Newtothis> I've Md5summed it before. I know it's the correct ISO.
[18:30] <Sidewinder1> Newtothis, Did you burn it at the slowest speed?
[18:31] <Newtothis> I'm actually not sure.
[18:31] <Sidewinder1> That's usually best.
[18:32] <Sidewinder1> Newtothis, When burning a video, a misplaced bit, here and there isn't a big deal; in an entire operation system.. well. you know what I mean. ;)
[18:33] <Newtothis> Yeah. I see where you're going. :P
[18:35] <marsfligth> Hi, can you explain me in short what 'apt-get dselect-upgrade' does? I read many man's and forums, but honestly it's function is not clear to me. Thanks for reading
[18:36] <Michel> hey if i do the ubuntu default installation on my first disk
[18:36] <Michel> can i use the other disk later?
[18:36] <Michel> for storage
[18:36] <recon_lap> Michel: yes
[18:37] <cellofellow> Anybody have tips for getting Empathy to work with Google Talk and Google Voice?
[18:37] <Zatoxxx> humm i'm interrested too :)
[18:37] <Michel> recon_lap, how
[18:38] <recon_lap> Michel: you can add the drive to your fstab file to auto mount it, also disk manager can mount it as well
[18:39] <TJ-> Michel: I'm with you now :)
[18:40] <arooni-mobile> i have a huge curl request that i have stored as a file.  how can i execute this command without copying/pasting
[18:41] <cellofellow> arooni-mobile: you can put it in a file, with the first line the bash shebang (#!/bin/bash) and then chmod +x it. Then you can just ./mycurlscript
[18:41] <marsfligth> Hi, can you explain me in short what exactly 'apt-get dselect-upgrade' does?
[18:42] <MythUser> Any MythTV expert here?
[18:42] <dme> chat
[18:43] <MythUser> I'm having a problem with MythTV not connecting to the database backend and the forums is down for who knows how long so I cannot check there
[18:44] <blackgatonegro> is there a guide to add a second monitor to ubuntu or something?
[18:45] <samfromat> blackgatonegro:yes there are guides available at the forums. just wait for forums to up and running
[18:46] <MythUser> anyone know how to get mythtv fronted to connect to the backend database?  both are on the same machine
[18:46] <NOsen> anyone know how to graph usage of diffrent protocols on the network with rrdtool (like cisco NBAR but for linux) ?
[18:48] <SkippersBoss>  blackgatonegro look at Xorg and tweak with xrandr
[18:51] <Newtothis> Let's see if this DVD works...:/
[18:52] <gunarm> if I take my RAID drives out of my computer and put them in another computer, or just reformat the OS, my understanding is that as long as that computer has mdadm it will fix any problems in the array and bring it online, is it still this simple if I put an LVM layer on top of it?
[18:52] <ikonia> gunarm: no chance
[18:52] <Psi-Jack> ikonia: Software RAID, mdadm. :)
[18:52] <Psi-Jack> He just forgot to mention that part.
[18:52] <ikonia> still no chance with lvm on top
[18:52] <gunarm> Psi-Jack, thanks ;)
[18:52] <Psi-Jack> Pardon?
[18:52] <Psi-Jack> ikonia: With LVM on top, it's perfectly plausible/.
[18:53] <Psi-Jack> You just have to import them.
[18:53] <ikonia> I suspect the Vg's will not come on line
[18:53] <samfromat> i have these logs. What these means? http://pastebin.com/My3Pxmup
[18:53] <ikonia> you maybe ok if you do a vgexport before removing the disks and then a vgimport
[18:53] <NOsen> its more of a "do i dare" yes or no question
[18:53] <gunarm> Psi-Jack, but it sounds like even if its plausible it certainly adds a nontrivial amount of complication to the process
[18:53] <Psi-Jack> gunarm: For the LVM portion, you'll need to /export/ the LVM volumes, before moving them.
[18:54] <Newtothis> I think it is... what's this keyboard equals man in a circle?
[18:54] <ikonia> Psi-Jack: all on board with that
[18:54] <gunarm> i think im just gonna avoid LVM since i dont really need it anyway, i was just considering it for future flexibility
[18:54] <Psi-Jack> LVM is nice, and worthwhile.
[18:54] <Psi-Jack> gunarm: http://tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO/recipemovevgtonewsys.html
[18:54] <Newtothis> Wait... that's gone... okay. I'll just let it do its thing for now.
[18:56] <Psi-Jack> ikonia: So, there you go. LVM moved to another system. ;)
[18:56] <ikonia> Psi-Jack: I don't disagree if you do an export first
[18:57] <Psi-Jack> hehe
[18:57] <ikonia> pulling the disks and just putting them in, more pain
[18:57] <Psi-Jack> Indeed.
[18:57] <FreeMansMind> Hello again.
[18:58] <FreeMansMind> Can some buddy please tell me how to make sure that I have my Graphic Card driver installed? (Ubuntu 12.04 LTS)
[18:59] <jdiesel> where can I find help setting up weechat ? Is this the right channel for help w that ?
[18:59] <i7c> jdiesel: #weechat ;)
[18:59] <jdiesel> thanks
[19:00] <jdiesel> that was simple
[19:00] <i7c> ;)
[19:00] <samfromat> FreeMansMind: Which graphics card are you using?
[19:00] <Moonlightning> … o.o;
[19:01] <Newtothis> Preparing to install Ubuntu.... okay... if I replace Windows 7 with Ubuntu, will that get rid of the old Ubuntu installation I had that I used Windows 7 to create?
[19:02] <tiberio_d> it will give you options during the install, do you want 2 ubuntu installs?
[19:02] <smw> Newtothis, yes, but then you would lose windows 7
[19:02] <smw> Newtothis, are you sure you want to do this?
[19:02] <samfromat> Newtothis: if you have install ubuntu on the same drive where windows was install then it will get rid of it.
[19:02] <smw> Newtothis, you will lose all your programs, settings, an documents in windows
[19:02] <Psi-Jack> Newtothis: When you delete /ALL/ partitions, and re-create them and format them, you will remove everything.
[19:02] <Newtothis> smw: Yes, I'm certain. I got this computer specifically so I could have a Linux computer for work and whatnot. I don't have anything on Windows.
[19:03] <Moonlightning> My laptop just died, in the middle of a huge software update…I think it was even upgrading the kernel, too…it seems to have actually /shut down/, as if with `shutdown -h now`, rather than just killing the power suddenly…is there anything I need to do, or should I just `apt-get upgrade` again?
[19:03] <smw> Newtothis, needed to make sure :-)
[19:03] <TaJMoX> I'm looking for the Rhythmbox preference file because on my "watched folders" it just says "Multiple locations" and I'd like to see what those are.
[19:03] <Debolaz> Aside from putting in a cron job, is there a way to get the system to update completely automatically? Ie, some configuration option?
[19:03] <smw> Newtothis, in that case, if you have ubuntu format your entire drive... it will delete everything that was there previously
[19:03] <L3top> Moonlightning: whether or not it will be problematic depends on if it was downloading things, or installing them
[19:03] <Moonlightning> It was installing (I think).
[19:04] <samfromat> Moonlightning: just use 'apt-get upgrade' again.
[19:04] <TimothyA> what happened to mirror.cc.columbia.edu ?
[19:04] <L3top> Moonlightning: sudo dpkg --configure -a
[19:04] <Moonlightning> By the way, thanks for your earlier suggestion about `nomodeset`. ^^
[19:04] <L3top> Moonlightning: then upgrade again
[19:04] <L3top> np
[19:04] <Moonlightning> `dpkg --configure -a` then `apt-get upgrade`?
[19:04] <Newtothis> smw:  Pardon my ignorance, but would I want to pick replace Windows 7 with Ubuntu, or "Something Else?"
[19:05] <TimothyA> and is there a command in ubuntu to replace the sources list with different recommended official repositories on the fly?
[19:05] <smw> Newtothis, I don't know the exact options to choose from
[19:06] <smw> Newtothis, if one of the options is "replace windows 7", I would say that sounds right
[19:06] <TaJMoX> Is it possible to force Rhythmbox to re-scan folders for media?
[19:06] <Newtothis> I suppose I can try again and just format the whole damn thing if all else fails...
[19:06] <smw> TimothyA, different recommended repos?
[19:06] <TimothyA> smw: yes
[19:06] <smw> what does that mean?
[19:06] <TimothyA> if there is a command to swap out the current configuration with a different one
[19:07] <samfromat> Newtothis: if you want to partition the whole hard disk the choose 'something else' ,if you dont the just 'replace windows7'
[19:07] <TimothyA> or, I don't know... if there is somewhere a list online with available repositories?
[19:07] <smw> TimothyA, just move your new list to /etc/apt/sources.list
[19:07] <TimothyA> smw: I don't have a new list
[19:07] <TimothyA> where do I get a new list
[19:07] <smw> TimothyA, why do you want a new list?
[19:07] <gompa> how to install rocket raid 2320 on ubuntu 12.04 ?
[19:07] <smw> why do you think there is a new list?
[19:07] <TimothyA> because the repository doesn't work
[19:08] <TimothyA> http://mirror.cc.columbia.edu it's broken. it's kaput. it doesn't respond.
[19:08] <smw> !doesn't work | TimothyA
[19:08] <TimothyA> smw: ..... trigger happy?
[19:08] <smw> lol
[19:08] <TimothyA> I already asked prior why mirror.cc.columbia.edu was down with no response.
[19:09] <smw> TimothyA, ok, so you used to use a custom mirror?
[19:09] <TimothyA> no
[19:09] <TimothyA> this is what came with the installation
[19:09] <smw> TimothyA, please pastebin what is in your /etc/apt/sources.list
[19:09] <smw> TimothyA, how did you install it?
[19:10] <TimothyA> what's this channel's endeared pastebin?
[19:10] <TimothyA> smw: put in disk. hit install.
[19:10] <TimothyA> http://pastebin.com/1pQcb6ny
[19:10] <smw> TimothyA, I personally use fpaste, I don't know what the channel uses
[19:10] <Xtreme> auronandace, are you here?
[19:11] <smw> TimothyA, was it a special disk?
[19:11] <TimothyA> no
[19:12] <TimothyA> server edition, downloaded from the ubuntu site
[19:12] <smw> TimothyA, There is no reason these should be here
[19:12] <TimothyA> well, they are there
[19:12] <TimothyA> what *should* they be?
[19:13] <smw> one sec
[19:13] <smw> TimothyA, http://fpaste.org/Ewpu/
[19:13] <Psi-Jack> TimothyA: http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/
[19:14] <smw> TimothyA, that is what is on mine. You may want to comment out backports and partner
[19:14] <scott_z> I want to buy a pcmcia card to give my laptop usb 3.0. All the cards I found do not include linux drivers (as i would expect). Can anyone tell me if this would be supported by ubuntu or can anyone recommend a specific card that is known to work? Here is the one I am looking to buy.  http://www.amazon.com/dp/B007TPYKUU/ref=asc_df_B007TPYKUU2136463?smid=ATJ1HHEILSBYQ&tag=dealtmp52156-20&linkCode=asn&creative=395105&creativeASIN=B007TPYKUU
[19:14] <devslash> i used to be able to log into my ssh server using an sftp client and all of a  sudden if i try to upload any files i get an "unspecified error"
[19:14] <gunarm> in mdadm raid6, if one of 6 drives is 5600 rpm instead of 7200 does it bottleneck the whole thing down to that speed?
[19:14] <smw> TimothyA, (although, I like them)
[19:14] <brennan> how do i configure kppp??
[19:15] <smw> TimothyA, can you figure out the rest?
[19:15] <TimothyA> replacing them atm
[19:16] <devslash> can anyone help me
[19:16] <devslash> i used to be able to log into my ssh server using an sftp client and all of a  sudden if i try to upload any files i get an "unspecified error". I've checked the permissions on the folder and they are correct
[19:17] <TimothyA> that seems to workk
[19:18] <nejode> devslash, have you checked available free space un the server's drives?
[19:18] <devslash> oh man no
[19:18] <devslash> youre right
[19:18] <devslash> the disk is full
[19:19] <devslash> besides /tmp is there another location i can delete files to free up space
[19:19] <ActionParsnip> devslash: removing old kernels can help that, as well as run:  sudo apt-get clean    assuming you mean the system partition
[19:20] <devslash> it freed up just a tiny amount of space
[19:20] <nejode> devslash, check out /var/log too
[19:20] <ActionParsnip> devslash: if you run:  uname -a   you will see the running kernel
[19:20] <Moonlightning> Remove packages you don't need?
[19:20] <ActionParsnip> devslash: if you run:  dpkg -l | grep linux-image    you will see the installed kernels
[19:20] <devslash> can i safely remove everything in /var/log
[19:21] <brennan> how do i operate kppp?????????
[19:21] <ActionParsnip> devslash: you can uninstall any kernels you want except the running kernel and the metapackage (one without version numbers in the name)
[19:21] <Moonlightning> devslash: those are just logs. /You/ might want them for some reason, but deleting them won't cause any problems with the system (as far as I know).
[19:21] <ActionParsnip> devslash: could uninstall libreoffice to free space and install bleachbit to free more space
[19:21] <Moonlightning> bleachbit?
[19:22] <ActionParsnip> Moonlightning: indeed
[19:22] <ActionParsnip> devslash: run it as both your user then as root and have as many apps closed as possible, avoid commads that state they will take a long time
[19:22] <ActionParsnip> !info bleachbit
[19:22] <Moonlightning> …unless you don't mind waiting a long time. ;)
[19:22] <FreeMansMind> samformat; Intel® IGD x86/MMX/SSE2
[19:23] <devslash> ActionParsnip: http://pastebin.com/MwjS1h56
[19:23] <nabam> hi, I just installed ubuntu on my laptop, wifi doesn't seem to work.  The output of 'rfkill list all' showed that my wifi was hard blocked.  Pressing the wifi button doesn't seem to let me get around this.  My laptop model is compaq prescario cq50-115nr and I'm using ubuntu 10.04 i386
[19:23] <nabam> how can I enable my wifi?
[19:24] <devslash> ActionParsnip: thats the output for dpkg -l | grep linux-image
[19:24] <ActionParsnip> devslash: what is the output of:  uname -a
[19:24] <devslash> Linux ubuntu 3.2.0-29-generic-pae #46-Ubuntu SMP Fri Jul 27 17:25:43 UTC 2012 i686 athlon i386 GNU/Linux
[19:24] <devslash> can i safely delete the older images in /boot ?
[19:24] <ActionParsnip> devslash: sudo apt-get --purge remove linux-image-3.2.0-23-generic-pae linux-image-3.2.0-26-generic-pae linux-image-3.2.0-27-generic-pae
[19:25] <ActionParsnip> devslash: should free up about 400Mb
[19:25] <devslash> 338
[19:25] <ActionParsnip> devslash: close :)
[19:25] <devslash> yea
[19:25] <Moonlightning> nabam: my laptops onboard Wi-Fi didn't work out of the box under Debian, and I think it doesn't work out of the box under Ubuntu, either
[19:25] <devslash> is there anything else i can safely purge
[19:25] <Moonlightning> IIRC, though, it was just a simple `apt-get install` that did it for me. I don't remember what package it was, though 6_9
[19:26] <nabam> I installed the latest compat-wireless drivers
[19:26] <ashi> hi
[19:26] <samfromat> FreeMansMind:'you can check it by 'lspci | grep VGA', it will show you the installed video card.
[19:26] <devslash> ActionParsnip: i only have 711MB free
[19:26] <ashi> anybody want help
[19:27] <tiberio_d> sure, in sound options my hdmi output isn't listed
[19:27] <tiberio_d> if i do aplay -l i get card 1: Generic [HD-Audio Generic], device 3: HDMI 0 [HDMI 0]
[19:28] <scott_z> devslash: just started folllowing, you might want to delete your browser cache. dont know if someone suggested this or if you already did this. hope this helps
[19:28] <devslash> i don't have a browser cache
[19:28] <devslash> in fact I don't have X installed
[19:28] <scott_z> devslash: sorry worth a try.
[19:28] <devslash> np
[19:29] <ActionParsnip> devslash: install bleachbit and you can free more space, close as many apps as possible
[19:29] <ActionParsnip> devslash: also uninstall apps  you don't use
[19:29] <devslash> whats bleach bit do
[19:30] <tiberio_d> does anyone know why my hdmi sound output wouldn't be listed in sound settings?
[19:31] <nabam> I also tried brining my wireless card up with ifconfig, no luck, I tried rfkill unblock all, still no luck.  The button still doesn't seem to work to enable wireless
[19:31] <cellofellow> devslash: I think what it does is it deletes unneeded files, and it also randomizes your empty space for security.
[19:32] <scott_z> nabam: do you have an internal broadcom card?
[19:33] <nabam> scott_z: atheros, but internal yes
[19:33] <dougl> I just finished doing a sudo tar -cvzf /home/username/archive.tgz /media/olddrives/ and now I try to open/read the file in midnight commander and it does not open... what do you use to backup folders in 12.04?
[19:34] <Moonlightning> tar
[19:34]  * Moonlightning gigglesnickers
[19:35] <dougl> Moonlightning, that is what I thot but will not open in Midnight commander
[19:35] <nabam> dougl: you're still going to have to decompress before mc can read your archive I believe
[19:35] <urlwolf> hat would be the equiv ubuntu packages for our: libx11
[19:35] <urlwolf> …: libx11
[19:35] <devslash> ActionParsnip: does bleach bit use a gui or can it be run from the command line
[19:36] <urlwolf> hat would be the equiv ubuntu packages for archlinux libx11 libxft and freetype2?