[05:23] <jon5001> wbc, doesnt seem to be responding to that... unless i am doing it wrong.  unfamiliar with that technique but followed your instructuon
[05:23] <w30> wbc, thats cool, thanks for being on Ubuntu and helping out *smile*
[05:23] <wbc> jon5001: It does only work on certain computers though
[05:24] <gmachine> jon5001: you can enable horizontal and vertical scrolling under mouse/touchpad...I assume if you remove the checks from these boxes you have disabled scrolling
[05:24] <jon5001> wbc, nah.  i dont think so.  scrolling worked until recently
[05:24] <w30> wbc, works on a inspiron E1505
[05:24] <jon5001> gmachine, all tick marks are in right place
[05:24] <wbc> w30: :)
[05:25] <gmachine> jon5001: I'm sorry jon... do you want it to work or not work?
[05:26] <gmachine> wbc: did you get an answer to your question about the grub file?
[05:26] <wbc> gmachine: Nope,
[05:26] <jon5001> gmachine, I want it to work.  it used to work.  now it suddenly doesnt.  gsynaptics touch pad and mouse settings in gnome are set to enable, and xorg is unchanged from a backup when it worked fine
[05:27] <gmachine> jon5001: ok, sorry to be dense.
[05:27] <jon5001> gmachine, and yet it suddenly stopped
[05:27] <ectospasm> jon5001: you may need to toggle them off and toggle them back on
[05:27] <jon5001> gmachine, no worries.
[05:27] <ectospasm> ...or upgrade to Jaunty
[05:27] <wbc> gmachine: Thing is that I do not know what I should add to the menu.lst
[05:27] <jon5001> ectospasm, I have tried that.  but would i have to reboot in between?  that I havent done
[05:28] <gmachine> wbc: well, in my grub list my hard drive is mentioned and I don't have Windows installed on the same computer.
[05:28] <ectospasm> jon5001: a reboot may be an expedient fix.  I had a problem where I disabled mouse clicks on the touch pad, to disable an annoyance
[05:28] <jon5001> ectospasm, problem with jaunty for me is no proprietary driver for ati radeon video card and the open source version doesnt make full enough use of it... but thats a whole nother story
[05:28] <ectospasm> jon5001: and rebooting fixed the problem that caused.
[05:29] <ectospasm> bah, ATI
[05:29] <jon5001> ectospasm, note, i have rebooted several times.  this has been ongoing for a week.  but i havent rebooted in between unchecking the boxes.  ie, uncheck, reboot, check, reboot
[05:30] <Barridus> is it just me or is jaunty missing most of the sounds ubuntu used to have (trash emptying, etc)
[05:30] <jon5001> ectospasm, yeah. the whole ati situation's a bummer
[05:30] <ectospasm> jon5001: are you dual booting?  If so, does the touchpad scroll bar work as advertised in the other OS?
[05:31] <jon5001> ectospasm, nope.  intrepid is the only os on this machine
[05:31] <froes> hi. is there a way to make the SUPER (windows key) open the desktop menus ?
[05:31] <ectospasm> hmmm... so we can't test if the scroll bar on the touchpad has simply failed.
[05:31] <wbc> gmachine: could you paste your menu.lst to the pastebin?
[05:34] <jon5001> ectospasm, wbc, i will be right back.  i unchecked and am rebooting.
[05:35] <jaime1> hey guys how's it going
[05:36] <jaime1> i have a serious problem
[05:36] <Dday> Will wine run internet explorer 8?
[05:36] <skrite> jaime1, go ahead
[05:36] <gmachine> IE8 is horrible
[05:36] <RheaChiQ> YeTr2 : ok i think i got it. what website you got it?
[05:36] <ectospasm> jaime1: don't preface your question, just ask
[05:36] <error404notfound> anyone here tried installing ubuntu on xen server 5.5.0?
[05:36] <gmachine> spill jaime1
[05:36] <Dday> gmachine, need it for a microsoft competition
[05:37] <ectospasm> Dday: good luck with that
[05:37] <gmachine> Dday, what do you need for a microsoft competition
[05:37] <Dday> http://www.microsoft.com/australia/ie8/competition/
[05:37] <gmachine> oh
[05:37] <ectospasm> Dday: IE8 is new enough where I'd doubt wine could run it well.
[05:37] <jaime1> i went away for vacations leaving my cuz in charge. being new to ubuntu he messed around and did some thing he shoudn't have. now my computer says i have no available memory, which i do. also i cant save documents and i can't open some apps and i can't upgrade to 9.04 because of an "authentication failure" i have no idea what happened to it
[05:38] <ectospasm> probably all sorts of libs involved that the wine folks haven't implemented.
[05:38] <gmachine> Dday: I'll give you $15,000 not to use IE8
[05:38] <ectospasm> jaime1: did you give him access to your user account?
[05:39] <jaime1> yeah i didn't think he'd mess with it
[05:39] <cabrey> oh wow so MS has to bribe users now?
[05:39] <ectospasm> jaime1: shame shame
[05:39] <jaime1> ectospasm: i know
[05:39] <h00k> Dday: 1) you can use User Agent Switcher (thats all they check for and 2) You must live in Australia
[05:39] <h00k> Dday: Actually using IE8 isn't necessaryt
[05:39] <jelly-bean> my "gnome-screensaver lock" quit working recently. any ideas? it is running
[05:39] <gmachine> jaime1: do you have a pre-vacation back up of your system
[05:39] <Dday> gmachine, is it in Zimbabwean dollars?
[05:39] <Dday> h00k, how i use user agent switcher?
[05:39] <gmachine> Dday: Close, U.S. dollar$
[05:40] <munk> hi all
[05:40] <jaime1> ectospasm: and for example like i can open opera, but when i click on the file, edit , view , or any other buttons on the top, it just shows blanks
[05:40] <Dday> gmachine, i take you up on your offer :D
[05:40] <jaime1> ectospasm: unfortunately i didn't.
[05:40] <munk> anyone know much about the pipe command? ie |
[05:40] <h00k> Dday: google is your friend: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/59
[05:40] <ectospasm> jaime1: sounds like he trashed your system.
[05:40] <ectospasm> jaime1: is /home on a different partition from /?
[05:40] <wbc> May someone please paste their /boot/grub/menu.lst on the pastebin for me?
[05:40] <jaime1> ectospasm: that's what i was thinking that maybe he messed with the partitions
[05:40] <wbc> With Windows in it
[05:41] <ectospasm> jaime1: you'd be in deeper trouble if that were the case.
[05:41] <skrite> Is there a way to run ICE WEASEL in Ubuntu ?  i cant find it in apt or anywhere  else
[05:41] <cabrey> skrite, use firefox
[05:41] <ectospasm> skrite: and why would you want to do that when Ubunt CAN use Firefox?
[05:42] <munk> is there a way to take the output of a commandline program and use it as a argument for another program?
[05:42] <jaime1> ectospasm: yeah i have the linux wich is filesystem ext3 as /dev/sda2. i have like 52 GB unallocated, then the linux-swap as /dev/sda
[05:42] <ectospasm> munk: use the pipe '|'
[05:42] <ectospasm> munk: cmd1 | cmd2 | cmd3 | ...
[05:42] <lstarnes> munk: or program $(other program)
[05:42] <racecar56> got to go
[05:42] <Dday> h00k, User agent switcher is only for windows 7
[05:43] <munk> does it pass what ever is in the stdout as an argument?
[05:43] <Dday> *IE 7 sorry
[05:43] <lstarnes> munk: you can use $() or `` to capture output for use bu another command
[05:43] <ectospasm> jaime1: you're screwed then, since you don't have a separate /home partition.  I'd suggest a format and reinstall.
[05:43] <toortoor> what is the command for the default ubuntu document reader?
[05:43] <lstarnes> munk: | captures one program's stdout and directs it into the other's stdin
[05:43] <ectospasm> jaime1: you can try to move your important files to another system/external HD, but good luck
[05:43] <lstarnes> toortoor: evince?
[05:43] <cabrey> toortoor, evince
[05:43] <w30>  	  We are sorry, but your Operating System is not supported by the ninemsn Optimised version of Internet Explorer 8.
[05:43] <w30> Australia (English) - click to change
[05:43] <jaime1> ectospasm: yep that's what it looks like. oh well thanks man. i'll probably just save everything to an external, then just reinstall
[05:44] <munk> what if I need the output to be passed as an argument when the second program is loaded
[05:44] <toortoor> lstarnes, cabrey: ok thanks
[05:44] <gmachine> jaime1: and kick your cousin in the rear
[05:44] <ectospasm> jaime1: next time, don't give ANYONE access to your user, just create an unprivileged user first.
[05:44]  * w30 hehheh
[05:44] <CaptainMorgan> !release
[05:44] <jaime1> ectospasm: yeah, well i told him he has to buy me a new computer:) but meanwhile i'll fix this one
[05:44] <johnzw> whois johnzw
[05:45] <munk> stdin isnt the arguments is it?
[05:45] <lstarnes> munk: stdin is like typed input
[05:45] <jaime1> ectospasm: one more question. when i reinstall, how do i make the /home partition. i had my friend install it for me. i mean i'm knowledgeable in linux, but not in that part of the installation process
[05:45] <s|k_`> hrm
[05:46] <h00k> !home | jaime1
[05:46] <ectospasm> jaime1: just create separate / and /home partitions.  You should have the option for choosing the mount point of a given partition
[05:46] <h00k> sleep. peace.
[05:46] <munk> so if I am writing a program called "gettimeindex" that generates arguments for the program "transcoder" is there a way to pass the arguments?
[05:47] <lstarnes> munk: transcoder $(gettimeindex)
[05:47] <bullgard4> skrite: Ubuntu repositories provide you with Firefox. If you have reasons to stick to Iceweasel try to find Debian repositories providing Iceweasel packages. I doubt that it makes sense to install them in your Ubuntu operating system. You better switch over to Debian entirely then.
[05:47] <ectospasm> munk: what do you mean "arguments"
[05:47] <gmachine> jaime1: read through a guide that tells you have to set up the difference partitions / /var /tmp /home etc
[05:47] <gmachine> *how
[05:47] <ectospasm> munk: normally you just pass the stdout of the first program to the stdin of the second.
[05:47] <unop> munk, maybe.  transcoder "$@"
[05:47] <munk> like when you load transcoder it has arguments like "transcoder -a -more arguments -blah"
[05:47] <ectospasm> munk: you'd have to specify those extra arguments when you invoke the commands.
[05:48] <unop> munk, "$@" contains the arguments passed to this script .. you just pass them on using it
[05:49] <ectospasm> like: tar -xvf - file1 file2... | bzip2 -c tarball.tar.bz2
[05:49] <jaime1> ectospasm: yeah thanks man i'm looking at a page which should help. i just gotta go get my external HD from my gf so i could save the important stuff. oh well, that's what i get for trusting a windows user:) thanks for  all the help and see you guys later.
[05:49] <The_warlock> can anybody suggest me a good window manager which supports themes?
[05:49] <ectospasm> The_warlock: GNOME ?
[05:49] <thePuppeteer> I am on the liveCD and am formatting the HDD, sda1 i managed to delete, but with sda2/sda5, gparted will not give me the option to touch, is there a way around this?
[05:49] <lstarnes> The_warlock: maybe compiz
[05:49] <unop> gnome isn't a window manager
[05:50] <The_warlock> ectospasm: other than gnome and kde i.e :D
[05:50] <unop> The_warlock, fluxbox
[05:50] <ectospasm> The_warlock: only other one I'm familiar with is fluxbox
[05:50] <munk> unop: where can I find out more about $@?
[05:50] <jaime1> ectospasm: wait one more quick q. can't i just create a new /home partition?
[05:50] <ectospasm> ...although all the *Steps should work, too
[05:51] <ectospasm> jaime1: if you've got free space (which you said you did earlier), yeah
[05:51] <unop> munk, you are writing a shell script i assume?  bash?
[05:51] <jon5001> ectospasm, performed the following:  uncheck, reboot, check, reboot... no joy
[05:51] <nathaniel1> hello
[05:51] <nathaniel1> I have a problem
[05:51] <munk> no I am writing a c++ program that analyzes a sound file and then passes a certain time index to transoder
[05:52] <nathaniel1> my screen resolution sinece some days now is very below what it used to be
[05:52] <sagaci> when i run the command line in ubuntu, can i up the resolution so more fits in the screen?
[05:52] <munk> I would like to avoid calling transcoder from within my program
[05:52] <jascase901> I was messing with usplash and now I cant log onto my ubuntu partition
[05:52] <nathaniel1> and it doesn't detect monitor
[05:52] <jascase901> On jaunty
[05:52] <unop> munk, ahh, then $@ doesn't apply .. you'd have to work with argc/argv combination
[05:52] <munk> yea
[05:52] <ectospasm> sagaci: you mean in the virtual terminals (ALT-F1..6)?
[05:53] <unop> munk,  /j #c++
[05:53] <sagaci> ectospasm: yes
[05:53] <munk> is there no way to pass the output of a program to the arguments of a another?
[05:53] <ectospasm> sagaci: only way I know of doing that is by running a framebuffer
[05:53] <nathaniel1> my screen resolution sinece some days now is very below what it used to be and it doesn't detect monitor
[05:53] <jaime1> ectospasm:yeah i have like 50GB of free space.  should i create it as a primary or extended partition? also should it be ext 2?
[05:53] <munk> perhaps a bash script to tie it togehter?
[05:53] <unop> munk,  that will work
[05:54] <ectospasm> sagaci: investigate the "vga=" kernel boot parameter for the framebuffer
[05:54] <ectospasm> jaime1: it's really immaterial whether you choose it to be primary or logical (it can't be extended)
[05:54] <sagaci> ectospasm: ah ok, won't mess with it then
[05:54] <munk> where would I look for such information?
[05:54] <jaime1> ectospasm: oh alright. will 2 GB be enough or how much should it be?
[05:54] <unop> munk,  /j #bash
[05:55] <nathaniel1> my screen resolution sinece some days now is very below what it used to be and it doesn't detect monitor
[05:55] <munk> thanks
[05:55] <ectospasm> jaime1: usually I make the /home partition the largest on the system
[05:55] <jaime1> so probably use like all of the memory. like 50GB?
[05:55] <ectospasm> jaime1: 2GB would fill up FAST
[05:55] <ectospasm> jaime1: that's what I'd do, but ymmv
[05:56] <nellmathew> hey guys, i was curious.. what would be the best file system for "media storage" partition?.. i'm on ext3 right now, i have some unformatted space on my harddrive, looking for some suggestions..
[05:56] <jaime1> ectospasm: ok thanks man. yeah i got the page that tell me what commands to enter so hopefully i fix this
[05:56] <ectospasm> nellmathew: ext3 is a safe choice
[05:57] <ectospasm> nellmathew: JFS may give better performance for lots of large (> 2GB) files.
[05:57] <ectospasm> ReiserFS may also be a good choice.
[05:57] <nellmathew> ectospasm, so if i were to reinstall ubuntu on my current partition, how would i go about using ext3 without affecting the "media" partition? (make it primary and root?..)
[05:57] <thePuppeteer> I am on the liveCD and am formatting the HDD, sda1 i managed to delete, but with sda2/sda5, gparted will not give me the option to touch, is there a way around this?
[05:58] <nellmathew> does that make sense?.. lol
[05:58] <Jaunty_Guy> #ubuntu
[05:58] <Jaunty_Guy> Hello guys and gals
[05:58] <ectospasm> nellmathew: no, you'd have your media partition on a separate (primary or logical, doesn't matter) partition, and set its mount point to whatever (prolly not /media, maybe /mnt/media or something.
[05:58] <chewed-on> Hello
[05:59] <Jaunty_Guy> I have really a serious problem and I can't fix it
[05:59] <chewed-on> Has anyone here used Yabause (sega saturn emulator)
[05:59] <ectospasm> nellmathew: then, don't touch that partition when you're reinstalling.
[05:59] <Jaunty_Guy> Can some one help me
[05:59] <ectospasm> Jaunty_Guy: don't preface your question, or ask to ask, just ask your question already
[06:00] <nellmathew> ectospasm: thanks for your help!
[06:00] <chewed-on> Has anyone here used Yabause (sega saturn emulator) before ?
[06:00] <Jaunty_Guy> OK I just migrated from Windows and I have one problem
[06:00] <ectospasm> chewed-on: not I
[06:00] <Jaunty_Guy> The PC freezes at randon times
[06:00] <ectospasm> Jaunty_Guy: does it ever exhibit that behavior in Windows?
[06:01] <Jaunty_Guy> couldn't figure why?
[06:01] <Jaunty_Guy> No not at all
[06:01] <ectospasm> Jaunty_Guy: you could be having a number of problems.
[06:01] <avythe> silly quick question, when amarok changes to the next song, it displays a huge message - any way to resize it?
[06:01] <ectospasm> Jaunty_Guy: it could be that Ubuntu is stressing your system in ways Windows does not, and you've got a hardware problem that Ubuntu has uncovered.  This is pure conjecture.
[06:01] <chewed-on> Jaunty_Guy: what were you doing right before it freeze ?
[06:02] <ectospasm> Jaunty_Guy: you may want to run a benchmarking or stress testing tool to see if your system can handle it.  I suggest mprime.
[06:02] <MidtownNewbie> Howdy, all. Has anyone else ever had issues getting Skype audio to work in Jaunty? I'm on an Inspiron 1100 laptop.
 nothing in particular some time freezes while I am surfing and other times while I am watching movies
[06:03] <ectospasm> Jaunty_Guy: I had a problem with an old computer randomly hard locking (in Windows and in Linux), and mprime led me to believe the problem was with the memory controller on the motherboard.
[06:03] <ectospasm> Jaunty_Guy: does it freeze when you view Flash movies in your browser?
[06:03] <ectospasm> Jaunty_Guy: I assume you're using Jaunty?
[06:04] <Jaunty_Guy> Not all the times I am watching youtube now :)
[06:04] <ARMENIAN> how can i make it so when I'm playing video on one workspace and zoom out with somehting like expose, i can see the video still playing instead of a black screen?
[06:04] <Jaunty_Guy> Yes I am
[06:04] <StormWinged> so.... for the 4th day... :D can somebody help me with skype plugin for pidgin?
[06:04] <ectospasm> Jaunty_Guy: what flavor (i386 or x86_64)?
[06:04] <lstarnes> StormWinged: I think you want #pidgin
[06:04] <ectospasm> StormWinged: not I
[06:05] <StormWinged> okay... i`ll try it
[06:05] <Jaunty_Guy> X86_64
[06:06] <ectospasm> I've got three machines with Jaunty 64bit, and I haven't experienced the problems you have been, Jaunty_Guy
[06:06] <Laurenceb> how do I lookup a url?
[06:06] <Laurenceb> to find whos hosting it?
[06:06] <ectospasm> Laurenceb: in the Linux shell:  whois <domain>
[06:06] <chewed-on> Laurenceb: maybe try ping that url ?
[06:06]  * chewed-on shuts up.
[06:06] <hicham> Hi all, i have a question ! can i have a dual monitor on a PC running linux ? i can do that on xP but not on linux..Thanks
[06:06] <Jaunty_Guy> I have another machine too and it works like a charm
[06:06] <Laurenceb> is there a web service that gives you the company?
[06:06] <chewed-on> hicham: yes you can
[06:07] <raylu> !twinview | hicham
[06:07] <ectospasm> hicham: what video chipset are you using?
[06:07] <hicham> how /
[06:07] <lstarnes> Laurenceb: you could try doing a whois query
[06:07] <hicham> Nvidia
[06:07] <raylu> oh... was expecting a more general reponse
[06:07] <hicham> GEforce something
[06:07] <eshaase> why does moving files from my HD to my USB HD take up 100% of my CPU?
[06:07] <Jaunty_Guy> that's why I don't know the problem I am not that expert so I need help
[06:07] <chewed-on> hicham: I think in your system settings there's a monitor section
[06:07] <chewed-on> it has a check box to use dual monitors
[06:07] <raylu> eshaase: it's a reported bug, i think
[06:08] <hicham> do i have to downloand anything ? I am new to linux.. my second day using it
[06:08] <sebsebseb> Laurenceb: this isn't really Ubuntu suppourt anyway this is what you want http://www.netcraft.com
[06:08] <ectospasm> hicham: you'll need to make sure  you've got the nvidia restricted driver installed, and then add Option "TwinView" to /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[06:08] <raylu> hicham: see what ubottu said
[06:08] <chewed-on> hicham: you're using gnome ?
[06:08] <digitalsatori> hi I installed mplayer and w32codecs, also copy the g2m.dll(gotomeeting codec) in the codecs directory, but I'm still not able to play the g2m coded video, anybody have an idea?
[06:08] <hicham> yeah gnome..i am not familair with the termila commands yet
[06:09] <indus> ectospasm: why do i need to add twinview to xorg.conf? doesnt it do that auto?
[06:09] <avythe> everything seems sort of big in gnome...
[06:09] <nataly> hola
[06:09] <avythe> is there a way to reduce the size of fonts and stuff?
[06:09] <sebsebseb> !es |  nataly
[06:09] <nataly> hi
[06:09] <raylu> avythe: so turn down the font size
[06:09] <ectospasm> indus: it probably does, but I keep restoring from an existing xorg.conf that I've kept around, and it still works.
[06:09] <raylu> avythe: system > prefs > appearance, i think
[06:09] <RheaChiQ> thanks ubuntu
[06:09] <nataly> iam begin in ubuntu 9.04
[06:09] <chewed-on> hicham: click on System on your menu bar
[06:09] <avythe> hm
[06:09] <avythe> oh there it is
[06:09] <avythe> i was just in there and didn't see it, thanks
[06:09] <Acedip> there is no drivers stated in Hardware Drivers app in system->admin, though there is an on-board ATI graphics driver
[06:10] <hicham> I have system tools.. nothing saying " system " ?
[06:10] <indus> ectospasm: ok . But now the xorg.conf is auto generated i believe
[06:10] <indus> Acedip: whats the output of lspci .
[06:10] <ectospasm> indus: yes, but iirc it didn't detect my twinview here
[06:10] <ectospasm> ...so I used the old file
[06:10] <digitalsatori> anybody have the experience with playing the gotomeeting encoded video in ubuntu
[06:10] <indus> Acedip: use pastebin
[06:10] <hicham> ops Sorry..I have system on my menu bar ;)
[06:11] <raylu> eshaase: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/131094
[06:11] <chewed-on> hicham: yeah look for Preference
[06:11] <Acedip> indus, this is the driver line 01:05.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc RC410 [Radeon Xpress 200]
[06:11] <hicham> i am there
[06:11] <chewed-on> hicham: I found this using Google: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zFX5UssUgcs   :)
[06:11] <chewed-on> hicham: do you see "Desktop" ?
[06:11] <chewed-on> or "Monitor" ?
[06:11] <chewed-on> or something related to monitor
[06:11] <Acedip> indus, this happened after yesterday's network upgrade to 9.04
[06:11] <indus> Acedip: ok newer ati drivers have dropped support for it i believe, use the open source ati driver,
[06:11] <ectospasm> chewed-on: it's called "Display"
[06:11] <chewed-on> yeah
[06:11] <chewed-on> display
[06:11] <chewed-on> :D
[06:11] <glicks> hey has anyone experienced that when they try to run google earth on the asus eeepc 1000he it kills their wireless internet?
[06:11] <raylu> avythe: np
[06:11] <chewed-on> ectospasm: I haven't used Gnome in a while.
[06:12] <hicham> no man.. just something to do with the display ..appearance
[06:12] <indus> Acedip: but who says your ati card isnt working,in all probability you are running the open source driver
[06:12] <jascase901> I was installing mac4lin's splashscreen on my jaunty ubuntu desktop, and now when i try to load linux from grub i just get stuck in a blank black input screen.
[06:12] <jascase901> All i did was ./make install
[06:12] <indus> Acedip: glxinfo | grep render]
[06:12] <indus> Acedip: glxinfo | grep render
[06:12] <Jaunty_Guy> ectospasm: how to run mprime ? :) sorry not an expert
[06:12] <Acedip> indus, i'm saying so, because after the upgrade, the display is not that clear, there is a bit haziness in the display
[06:13] <hicham> i ll check out the link you pasted..thanks chewed-on
[06:13] <ectospasm> jascase901: maybe take "splash" out of the command line in grub
[06:13] <crapshoot> where can i get help to keep my firefox from crashing?
[06:13] <jascase901> How do i do that?
[06:13] <ectospasm> jascase901: you do see the grub menu, correct?
[06:13] <jascase901> Yes
[06:13] <crapshoot> i have tried the forums and there is no help
[06:13] <Acedip> indus, direct rendering: No (LIBGL_ALWAYS_INDIRECT set) , OpenGL renderer string: Mesa DRI R300 20060815 x86/MMX/SSE2 NO-TCL
[06:14] <eshaase> raylu: thanks!
[06:14] <jascase901> ectospasm: Yea i see the grub menu
[06:14] <indus> Acedip: ok 1 min
[06:14] <indus> !ati
[06:14] <raylu> eshaase: np
[06:14] <ectospasm> jascase901: type 'e' (I think) to edit the grub line, go to the kernel line in the resulting menu, type 'e' to edit the line, and edit "splash" out of the line.  Then go back to the previous menu, and type 'b' to boot
[06:14] <MidtownNewbie> Anyone? Skype audio on Inspiron laptop?
[06:14] <jascase901> ectospasm: k thanks im gonna try that
[06:14] <ectospasm> jascase901: if it works, then you need to back out that change, or remove the installed splash screens
[06:15] <raylu> ectospasm, jascase901: no need to go back to the previous menu. just hit enter when you're done editing and b
[06:15] <Acedip> indus, ohk, but what can you say about the display not being that clear
[06:15] <jascase901> Ok well imabout to restart my compy
[06:15] <jascase901> to try this
[06:15] <ectospasm> raylu: doesn't hitting enter take you back to the previous menu?
[06:15] <indus> Acedip: adjust contrast ? not sure
[06:15] <jascase901> thanks guys
[06:15] <raylu> ectospasm: after you're done editing, enter takes you to the list of options for that boot config
[06:16] <chewed-on> hicham: alright
[06:16] <raylu> ectospasm: as in, the menu you would be at if you had just hit e once
[06:16] <crapshoot> i've tried changing from heron to ibex and even tried swiftfox...............no change
[06:17] <Jaunty_Guy> How to run mprime on Jaunty
[06:17] <ectospasm> Jaunty_Guy: you should be able to find a link to the source on the MPrime Wikipedia article.
[06:18] <ectospasm> afaik it's not a package in the repos
[06:18] <jascase901> Thanks that worked perfectly
[06:18] <Jaunty_Guy> OK so it is not in the repository
[06:18] <jascase901> I got restarted in like a second
[06:18] <ectospasm> Jaunty_Guy: know that the grub edit is only for that boot, you still need to correct the problem.
[06:18] <indus> Acedip: cant help here. Since ATI has opened their drivers,you need to wait before the community makes it avaiable for your chipset
[06:18] <ectospasm> er, jascase901 ^^^
[06:19] <Anirban1987> How to set up an Ubuntu server for shared hosting ?
[06:19] <indus> Acedip: they dropped support for x200
[06:19] <glicks> it sucks google earth runs smoothly on my eeepc running windows, but its crappy and choppy on linux
[06:19] <crapshoot> at least yoou have google earth
[06:19] <indus> Acedip: best bet is to use hardy 8.04
[06:19] <crapshoot> my firefox keeps crashing
[06:20] <glicks> what you mean crapshoot
[06:20] <Acedip> indus, that is good new :\
[06:20] <ectospasm> crapshoot: welcome to the joys of Firefox!
[06:20] <crapshoot> firefox spikes resources to 100%
[06:20] <ectospasm> crapshoot: yep, it does that from time to time.
[06:20] <crapshoot> at best it runs at 50% of resources
[06:21] <crapshoot> the problem is that it happens all the time
[06:21] <Jaunty_Guy> ectospasm: OK Thanks ..... I'll get back with the results
[06:21] <ectospasm> crapshoot: I've seen it stay at <20% resources, but still thrash the hard drive like crazy
[06:21] <indus> Acedip: thats why they call hardy LTS release, and i believe until 10.04 it wont be supporting x200
[06:21] <indus> ectospasm: exactly , hard disk keeps reading for say 5 sec
[06:22] <Acedip> indus, but I upgraded because needed gtk2.16 and it was not available in hardy
[06:22] <crapshoot> isn't FF the recommended browser?
[06:22] <indus> ectospasm: i read somewhere they released  a fix but it doesnt work
[06:22] <ectospasm> indus: in my case, it's like 5 (or 50) minutes.
[06:22] <ectospasm> indus: there's always Opera
[06:22] <crapshoot> i have tried hardy and ibex but no help
[06:23] <indus> ectospasm: i mean my firefox hangs in this moment as if searching for something, i heard its the sqllite database search it does
[06:23] <ectospasm> crapshoot: I only get it occasionally in Jaunty
[06:23] <Pwnt> Err, I'm havning a problem with Ubuntu 9.04
[06:23] <indus> ectospasm: i reduced cache size which seems to work
[06:23] <indus> Pwnt: what error
[06:23] <crapshoot> mine either locks up or crashes and i have to restart
[06:23] <MidtownNewbie> Can Ekiga Softphone be used to call regular telephones?
[06:23] <Pwnt> It's not really an error, I can't hear anything. I went to youtube and can't hear through my speakers nor ear phones
[06:23] <ectospasm> indus: crapshoot:  the machine I experience this on only has 1GB RAM.  My 4GB system at home doesn't seem to have the problem.
[06:24] <indus> ectospasm: only 1gb? heh thats a good amount
[06:24] <ectospasm> (I haven't been using my other 1GB machine at home long enough to notice)
[06:24] <indus> ectospasm: mine is 1 gb
[06:24] <crapshoot> jaunty kept crashing my machine so i switched to "a stable" version
[06:24] <ectospasm> indus: heh, you'd think
[06:24] <indus> ectospasm: ya why need 4gb?
[06:24] <indus> ectospasm: its been 2 years
[06:24] <ectospasm> indus: 'cuz I hate waiting for swap.
[06:25] <crapshoot> i posted on the forums, but after 2 weeks............nohelp
[06:25] <myself> does anyone know how to get the Shell - Queue script to work with Transmission torrent client here http://trac.transmissionbt.com/wiki/Scripts it's this one http://pastie.org/357236
[06:25] <ectospasm> indus: why not 4GB.  RAM is Dirt Cheap(TM)
[06:25] <indus> ectospasm: not where i live :)
[06:25] <ectospasm> I just got 2GB laptop RAM for $21.99US
[06:26] <glicks> i guess it takes a few minuts for the cache to get hot with google earth
[06:29] <XDS2010> any avid bluetooth ubuntu users here ?
[06:34] <brennus> ok, so I'm playing with different liveCDs, and the openSUSE one I got sas i686. Is that 64-bit?
[06:34] <myself> HELP
[06:34] <brennus> myself: what's wrong?
[06:34] <myself> does anyone know how to get the Shell - Queue script to work with Transmission torrent client here http://trac.transmissionbt.com/wiki/Scripts it's this one http://pastie.org/357236
[06:34] <myself> that
[06:35] <indus> brennus: its 32 bit
[06:35] <brennus> indus: thank you
[06:35] <indus> brennus: 64 bit will say x86_64
[06:36] <myself> brennus how do i make it work
[06:36] <crapshoot> how do i keep FF from crashing/locking up?
[06:36] <indus> crapshoot: when does it craash
[06:37] <crapshoot> i can't come up with a reliable trigger
[06:37] <crapshoot> sometimes there is weird network traffic
[06:38] <crapshoot> other times i am simply looking at the forums or text pages
[06:38] <crapshoot> video pages are a toss up
[06:39] <crapshoot> no issue with RAM or swap............3Gb
[06:40] <crapshoot> i really want to be a "convert", but without finding a solution i can only turn to windoze
[06:40] <indus> crapshoot: maybe its flash
[06:41] <crapshoot> how do i check/fix it?
[06:41] <crapshoot> flash is pretty prevalent
[06:41] <indus> crapshoot: which version of ubuntu u using? have you updated your system?
[06:41] <crapshoot> i have tried hardy, ibex, and jaunty
[06:42] <crapshoot> i know jaunty is buggy so that i discount
[06:42] <Dday> how oyu do a screenshot in ubuntu?
[06:42] <crapshoot> the OS shouldn't affect the browser should it?
[06:42] <ectospasm> Dday: hit PrintScreen
[06:42] <ectospasm> crapshoot: it can
[06:42] <indus> crapshoot: it does
[06:43] <crapshoot> oh!
[06:43] <ectospasm> crapshoot: I mean, the browser has to run in the framework of the OS
[06:43] <crapshoot> how do i check it
[06:43] <indus> crapshoot: there is nothing to check,  u can try opera if you not happy with FF
[06:44] <ectospasm> indus: or any of the console-based browsers.
[06:44] <crapshoot> if FF is a stock browser, wouldn't it have been checked?
[06:44] <vigo> There are many browsers that work in Linux,
[06:44] <vigo> Choice is what it is really about.
[06:44] <indus> crapshoot: Frankly firefox has started sucking, it works much nicer on windows
[06:45] <indus> crapshoot: i just hate it now
[06:45] <ectospasm> indus: I dunno, it's gotten better
[06:45] <ectospasm> though I'm still yearning and aching for Chrome4Linux
[06:45] <crapshoot> FF has always been touted as being the linux browser
[06:45] <kevin__> ectospasm: same here man
[06:45] <indus> ectospasm: no man,the freezes have increased,getting worse with flash etc
[06:45] <vigo> It is like Mutt e-mail, it states, all e-mail clients suck, mutt sucks less.
[06:45] <ectospasm> indus: heh, my experience has been precisely the opposite.
[06:45] <glicks> hey how is epiphany as a browser?
[06:46] <crapshoot> no one has looked at or fixed this?
[06:46] <kevin__> indus: ye i cant play texas holdem poker cus its flash so i have to boot to windows..
[06:46] <indus> ectospasm: thats called luck :)
[06:46] <myself> does anyone know how to get a script working for Transmission??? i want this one http://pastie.org/357236
[06:46] <ectospasm> glicks: epiphany should work
[06:46] <ectospasm> indus: so, I've got good luck?
[06:46] <vigo> I love Epiphany
[06:46] <kevin__> indus: on facebook.. :((
[06:46] <indus> ectospasm: its a known fact, firefox is great on windows
[06:46] <vigo> IceCat
[06:46] <crapshoot> it seems to work for most people
[06:46] <mcrandello> Hi is there any way to recover an encryption seed if your .ecryptfs dir went awol?
[06:46] <glicks> ectospasm, i mean how is it is it good
[06:46] <ectospasm> indus: documentation?
[06:46] <glicks> crappy
[06:46] <mcrandello> (yes I did something stupid)
[06:46] <glicks> etc
[06:46] <indus> i think opera is just great but i dont use it cos it looks ugly on gtk
[06:46] <SmithKurosaki> crapshoot: While FF is the standard ship with linux browser, I much prefer Opera, but when in Fedora, I find I need FF to deal with flash and java. What ubuntu are you running that is giving you problems? (Sounds like you are in windoze atm)
[06:46] <ectospasm> glicks: I have no idea, I don't use epiphany
[06:46] <glicks> can i watch youtube, is it as resource hungry as ff
[06:47] <ectospasm> Opera sucks because it uses Qt
[06:47] <ectospasm> glicks: I haven't a clue
[06:47] <crapshoot> right now i am in ubuntu ibex
[06:47] <indus> ectospasm: hmm no,qt is a very nice tool kit, it sucks because ubuntu is gtk
[06:47] <ectospasm> indus: you prove my point.
[06:47] <vigo> Iceweasel or IceCat are clones of Mozilla
[06:48] <indus> ectospasm: its not the tool kit that sucks is the point, but i heard firefox is also qt?
[06:48] <crapshoot> so no mozilla for ubuntu?
[06:48] <lstarnes> indus: firefox uses gtk, iirc
[06:48] <glicks> FF is gtk
[06:48] <glicks> anyone have any experience with other browsers on ubuntu
[06:48] <ectospasm> indus: AFAIK Firefox is GTK+ based (at least in Ubuntu)
[06:48] <indus> crapshoot: yeah vigo is right, try the many other browsers, iceweasel,swiftfox etc
[06:48] <ectospasm> glicks: I've used Konqueror a little bit.
[06:49] <SmithKurosaki> myself: ktorrent
[06:49] <vigo> crapshoot: I use Mozilla stuff in alot of Linux distros.
[06:49] <indus> ectospasm: lstarnes:ya i guess u are correct, idont know where i read that
[06:49] <indus> firefox is the best open source project but it sucks in linux
[06:49] <crapshoot> is there any way to know what will work without trying out a bunch of browsers to see what works?!
[06:49] <ectospasm> crapshoot: um, no?
[06:49] <kevin__> indus: i wouldnt say it sucks, its fairly developed.. just some bugs
[06:49] <indus> anyways, they have issues handling sqllite databases
[06:49] <ectospasm> crapshoot: it's a matter of taste.
[06:50] <jaime1> hey guys i just created a new /home partition and i had a question. i've followed the wiki rules on how to mount but i've had problems. can anyone help me through the steps?
[06:50] <indus> ok nvm
[06:50] <crapshoot> how about stability?
[06:50] <ectospasm> jaime1: the installer should have set it to automatically mount
[06:50] <ectospasm> ...on boot
[06:50] <vigo> It is as stable as the last backup you made.
[06:50] <indus> jaime1: how did you create the partition?
[06:51] <jaime1> ectospasm: well no i actually just made the new partition through Gparted
[06:51] <ectospasm> my guess is gparted in the installer
[06:51] <ectospasm> jaime1: did you set the mount point for it?  Or are you doing this outside the installer?
[06:51] <crapshoot> so there is no stock stable browser to use?
[06:51] <indus> jaime1: do you have ubuntu already installed?
[06:51] <kevin__> crapshoot: you should have a problem with firefox..
[06:52] <crapshoot> why kevin_?
[06:52] <indus> crapshoot: stick with firefox ,i just installed ff 3.5 beta it seems nicer
[06:52] <kevin__> shoudnt**
[06:52] <indus> its in synaptic
[06:52] <indus> its called shiretoko browser for now
[06:52] <jaime1> ectospasm: yes i have it installed, and no that's what i'm having problems with mounting it. i'm currently on the live cd because i already changed to the new home, but for some reason it wont read it so i had to do it through the live CD
[06:52] <vigo> mcrandello: I am still looking for the Ubuntu propsed fix for that. (if one exists)
[06:53] <indus> !firefox
[06:53] <indus> jaime1: can you paste output of sudo fdisk -l
[06:53] <jaime1> ectospasm: i followed the steps on this guide  http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/separatehome and i manged to change to the new home, but now it won't read it. it tries to read the old /home location.
[06:54] <vigo> indus: I saw that 3.5 or something is shipping on Fedora now.
[06:54] <jaime1> indus: outpust of sudo fdisk? sorry i'm kinda new at the partitioning
[06:54] <jaime1> indus: where would i find that?
[06:55] <indus> jaime1: in terminal (menu>accessories>terminal) type sudo fdisk -l
[06:55] <milo_> is google chrome already available for ubuntu?
[06:56] <jaime1> indus: Disk /dev/sda: 80.0 GB,<PHONE_NUMBER>8 bytes
[06:56] <jaime1> 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 9732 cylinders
[06:56] <jaime1> Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes
[06:56] <jaime1> Disk identifier: 0xe4651a0a
[06:56] <jaime1>    Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System
[06:56] <jaime1> /dev/sda1               1         122      979933+  82  Linux swap / Solaris
[06:56] <FloodBot3> jaime1: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:56] <jaime1> indus: sorry
[06:56] <indus> jaime1: hmm use paste
[06:56] <indus> !paste | jaime1
[06:56] <indus> jaime1: np jaime1 it happens to all :)
[06:57] <mhiku> how can i install mysql 6 and php mysql 6 using apt-get ?
[06:57] <indus> jaime1: can i suggest you reinstall ubuntu with a separate home if you wish? The procedure you are following is a bit advanced
[06:57] <jaime1> indus: http://paste.ubuntu.com/198230/
[06:58] <kevin__> mhiku: do you have to use apt-get?? have u searched mysql in synaptic
[06:58] <crapshoot> it seems like things are breaking down
[06:58] <kevin__> mhiku: try apt-cache
[06:58] <mhiku> ahh so its possible
[06:58] <jaime1> indus: yeah i mean i pretty much got it down. but some of the commands that i was supposed to enter weren't really working. i mean i pretty much did it but it's not reading /home its reading the old /home not the new one
[06:59] <mhiku> because i search aptitude search mysql and the latest there is 5.1 only
[06:59] <kevin__> indus: do you have ff 3.5?? hows it??
[06:59] <indus> jaime1: i need to see your fstab file
[06:59] <indus> kevin__: just search in synaptic and you will see ff 3.5
[06:59] <jaime1> indus: http://paste.ubuntu.com/198230/ that is the link
[07:00] <indus> jaime1: yes i got it
[07:00] <jaime1> indus: if that's not working then try this http://paste.ubuntu.com/198230/plain/
[07:00] <kevin__> indus: so i dont need to download the .deb.. dang already started lol..
[07:00] <mcrandello> vigo: thanks for looking btw
[07:00] <indus> kevin__: no
[07:00] <kevin__> indus: ima do it the easy way lol.. x
[07:00] <kevin__> D
[07:01] <jaime1> indus: currently i'm on the live CD
[07:01] <indus> jaime1: have you unmounted the old home partition?
[07:01] <vigo> mcrandello: Did you locate a fix?
[07:01] <jaime1> indus: yeah that's where i had the problem
[07:01] <indus> jaime1: i mean i hope you followed all the steps,
[07:01] <mcrandello> not yet
[07:02] <jaime1> indus: yeah i would enter the exact command and all it would say is that it couldn't find that file. well not the exact command but you know what i mean
[07:02] <rashed2020_> Hi
[07:02] <mcrandello> vigo: afaict you need both the passphrase and a key (which I deleted) to open the files
[07:02] <rashed2020_> What does it mean when there's a picture of a lock on a file?
[07:02] <rashed2020_> It's a .bin
[07:02] <vigo> mcrandello: Lost DSA? or SHA?
[07:02] <indus> jaime1: find . -depth -print0 | cpio --null --sparse -pvd /new/ this line?
[07:02] <jaime1> indus: it might be that the command given is wrong but i haven't been able to find another page at the moment
[07:02] <mcrandello> vigo: my .encryptfs directory whatever that had in it
[07:02] <zopiac> how do i make all image files open in a certain program?
[07:03] <vigo> mcrandello: Try a look at this one, am still looking , http://www.codinghorror.com/blog/archives/001267.html
[07:03] <jaime1> indus: yeah that exact one
[07:03] <indus> jaime1: i have no idea what it does
[07:03] <indus> jaime1: i dont think i even understand that tutorial
[07:04] <indus> jaime1: i guess you try those steps again then
[07:04] <indus> jaime1: what cant it find exactly?
[07:04] <jaime1> indus: i used this page http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/separatehome  well that live is to back up the old /home directory on the old partition and also move it to the new one. after that's done you pretty much delete the old /home then put the new one to boot
[07:05] <jaime1> indus: ok give a sec and let me try it again
[07:06] <jaime1> it says mv: cannot stat /old/home no such file or directory
[07:06] <myself> hey I just did this "i did this $ adduser --disabled-password transmission" in terminal cause someone was trying to help me run a script, what exactly did that do? i want to undo it
[07:06] <vigo> mcrandello: Whew! found an entire .log on that, http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2006/12/19/%23ubuntu.txt lot of spatter to look over, but is a good read.
[07:06] <indus> jaime1: give me your fstab file
[07:06] <indus> jaime1: paste it
[07:06] <jaime1> indus: so i guess there is no more /old
[07:06] <gogeta> myself lol
[07:06] <myself> gogeta can you help me :)
[07:06] <jaime1> indus: the one that i gave you right now?
[07:07] <indus> jaime1: cat /etc/fstab
[07:07] <gogeta> myself remove the user
[07:07] <myself> how do i do that
[07:07] <myself> is the user called "transmission"?
[07:07] <gogeta> well whatever u setupname yo
[07:07] <myself> i set it as the same username
[07:07] <myself> as i have now
[07:07] <gogeta> outch
[07:08] <myself> what does that mean
[07:08] <jaime1> indus: http://paste.ubuntu.com/198240/
[07:08] <vigo> mcrandello: And this Debian page has a bit to say on that. http://d-i.alioth.debian.org/svn/debian-installer/packages/partman/partman-crypto/debian/po/fi.po
[07:08] <jaime1> indus: that should be it
[07:08] <myself> ivan@ivan-desktop:~$ users
[07:08] <myself> ivan ivan ivan
[07:08] <indus> jaime1: u dont have the new home partition mentioned there
[07:08] <myself> what do i do gogeta
[07:09] <indus> jaime1: aah wait, this is the live cd fstab i think
[07:09] <gogeta> myself i think it did make a user group transmission
[07:10] <myself> so how do i get rid of that extra user/usergroup?
[07:10] <gogeta> in admin
[07:10] <indus> jaime1: can you see your ubuntu installation?
[07:10] <gogeta> and users and groups
[07:10] <jaime1> indus: yes you are right.
[07:10] <indus> jaime1: can you go to the / of that one
[07:10] <gogeta> you can change the settings w a nice gui
[07:10] <myself> how do i run that in sudo
[07:10] <gogeta> it will ask
[07:10] <jaime1> indus: i cannot
[07:11] <jaime1> indus: unless....
[07:11] <myself> okay i did it, badass, thank you
[07:11] <indus> jaime1: you need to mount it i think
[07:11] <vigo> mcrandello: This Aruns Blog explains what it is, sorta : http://www.blog.arun-prabha.com/tag/encryptfs/
[07:11] <jaime1> indus: yeah let me try it again. i found another page which might help me more  http://www.ubuntu4life.com/node/30
[07:11] <indus> jaime1: do you remember the dev name? like /dev/sda1 or 2
[07:12] <bingo> Hi room
[07:12] <bingo> i am using ubuntu 8.04
[07:12] <zerosix06> hi
[07:12] <gregorah> I'm having an issue with my webcam using eeebuntu. The issue is that nothing I do seems to get the webcam to actually work.
[07:12] <zerosix06> i to
[07:13] <gogeta> gergorah kinda a ols distro
[07:13] <gogeta> :-old
[07:13] <jaime1> indus: yeah the new home was /dev/sda3 while the old was sda2
[07:13] <bingo> i want to stop my iptables service but i didnt find /etc/init.d/iptables there
[07:13] <gregorah> Doesn't work with windows either.
[07:13] <gregorah> :(
[07:13] <gregorah> But this isn't #windows
[07:13] <gregorah> so whatever.
[07:13] <indus> jaime1: ok do a sudo mount /dev/sda2 /mnt
[07:13] <gogeta> gregorah eeebuntu is dead
[07:14] <jaime1> indus: ok i got it
[07:14] <bingo> how?
[07:14] <gogeta> http://www.geteasypeasy.com/
[07:14] <gregorah> are you sure? I thought it was ubuntu eee or something that was dead.
[07:14] <gogeta> thats its new name
[07:14] <bingo> zerosix06: if i want to stop iptables service then ho can i do ?
[07:14] <indus> jaime1: basically you just need to add a line in fstab about the new home thats all
[07:14] <jaime1> indus: now should i do the next step, copyin files over? the cd/home find . -depth -print etc?
[07:14] <gogeta> ubuntu netbook remix also has good support for most netbooks
[07:14] <nomad77> bingo: sudo iptables -F  flushes loaded ruleset
[07:15] <indus> jaime1: ah no you have already done that
[07:15] <gogeta> and thats a offical
[07:15] <rob_p> bingo, iptables is a tool, not a service.
[07:15] <vigo> bingo: Not advised, but is do-able.
[07:15] <vigo> !iptables
[07:15] <bingo> nomand777: and if i again want to start its service ?
[07:15] <indus> jaime1: can you do a 'cd /dev/sda2?
[07:15] <bingo> rob_p: tool yes tool for firewall ?
[07:15] <bingo> actualy i am new so dont konw very well..
[07:15] <jaime1> indus: yes i can
[07:16] <vigo> Learning is most of the fun!
[07:16] <rob_p> bingo, Precisely.  It's a tool used in the configuration of the kernel packet filtering.
[07:16] <bingo> rob_P: how is it not service ?
[07:16] <gregorah> gogeta: Easy Peasy appears to be Ubuntu-eee, not eeebuntu
[07:16] <indus> jaime1: good then find fstab from the /etc in that partition
[07:16] <indus> jaime1: understand?
[07:16] <indus> sudo gedit /dev/sda2/etc/fstab
[07:16] <gogeta> hregorah ubuntu netbook remix is a offical ubuntu :)
[07:16] <bingo> nomand777: sudo iptables -F ok .. now i again want to start iptables then ?
[07:17] <gogeta> supports my 900a fine
[07:17] <indus> jaime1: iam not sure if thats correct
[07:17] <rob_p> bingo, A service implies a process that runs... iptables is not, "running" but gets called during the initial configuration of the kernel packet filtering mechanism.
[07:17] <jaime1> indus: i enter it but another line just pops out
[07:17] <rob_p> bingo, Once iptables establishes the ruleset, it is not, "running."  Understand?
[07:18] <indus> jaime1: aah sorry
[07:18] <indus> jaime1: bad syntax
[07:18] <gregorah> I'll try it, if the webcam doesn't work be prepared to hear me complain :P
[07:18] <jaime1> indus:  yea
[07:18] <indus> jaime1: just do a cd /etc/fstab
[07:18] <bingo> rob_P: ok, so its mean it is not daemon, even in cEntos ?
[07:18] <indus> jaime1: no
[07:18] <indus> jaime1: cd /etc
[07:18] <lstarnes> bingo: it's not a daemon, it runs inside the kernel
[07:18] <jaime1> indus: no
[07:18] <rob_p> bingo, Yes.  Even in CentOS.
[07:18] <indus> jaime1: omg ok got it
[07:18] <bingo> lsarnes: ok..
[07:18] <indus> jaime1: cd /mnt
[07:19] <bingo> rob_P: $sudo iptables -L ok.. for flushing rules.. then $sudo iptables-save for again setup rules or in odl working condiition ?
[07:19] <gogeta> just as big as real ubuntu lol
[07:19] <indus> jaime1: got it? now do a cat /etc/fstab
[07:19] <gogeta> how that a eee remix
[07:19] <gogeta> lol
[07:19] <jaime1> indus: yeah i entered it while i was in 'cd /dev/sda2 and when i press enter it just goes into the next line
[07:20] <bingo> rob_P: but in centos when we do #service iptables stop then it got stop.. then no kernel etc ?
[07:20] <rob_p> bingo, I'm not familiar with iptables-save.
[07:20] <indus> jaime1: no no press ctl-x and exit
[07:20] <indus> jaime1: from a prompt type cd /mnt
[07:20] <indus> from a $ sign that is
[07:20] <jaime1> indus: oh ok
[07:21] <rob_p> bingo, That's because they happen to call it iptables even though it differs from the utility that is iptables.  Thank them for the confusion!
[07:21] <rob_p> bingo, They really should have called it something else.
[07:21] <bingo> i see...
[07:21] <jaime1> indus: ok yeah i did and i get the same one the one i showed you earlier on
[07:21] <indus> jaime1: paste the output of mount
[07:21] <rob_p> bingo, ...like an iptables configurator or whatever...
[07:22] <AnActivist> Hey everyone I'm trying to learn about buffer overflows but I can't seem to get around the stack protection, is there another distribution or some other source I could check out that addresses these modern changes in the 2.6.x kernel / ubuntu 9.04?
[07:22] <gogeta> lol
[07:22] <gogeta> anactivist the logs?
[07:22] <nomad77> bingo: sorry was reading commands available are in /usr/sbin
[07:22] <vigo> bingo: You may be talking about a ufw or some other frontend fort iptables, FireWallBuilder, GuFW, and stuff are frontends GUI widgets for iptables.
[07:23] <mcrandello_> auth-client-config: error: option -p: invalid choice: 'ecryptfs_standard' (choose from 'ldap_example', 'kerberos_example', 'cracklib')
[07:23] <AnActivist> gogeta, I'm sorry what do you mean by the logs?
[07:23] <mcrandello_> haha
[07:23] <gogeta> to find the overflow
[07:23] <gogeta> lol
[07:23] <jeffschmidt> hello
[07:23] <jaime1> indus: ok here it is, http://paste.ubuntu.com/198255/
[07:24] <indus> jaime1: in that psychocats tutorial , i suppose you have mounted the old partition on a directory called /old?
[07:24] <AnActivist> gogeta, I'm sorry I'm still not understanding, are you talking about the dev logs?
[07:24] <indus> jaime1: could you please navigate to that folder?
[07:24] <jaime1> indus: ok give me a sec
[07:24] <indus> jaime1: have you done those steps now?
[07:25] <jaime1> indus: yes i did them all
[07:25] <conan> hey guys, everytime i try running TF2 with wine it crashes at the same point it worked when i ran windows
[07:25] <indus> jaime1: so just go to that /old folder and look for etc and fstab inside
[07:25] <jaime1> indus: no the old partition was in the same /dev/sda2
[07:25] <AnActivist> gogeta?
[07:25] <indus> jaime1: aah sorry yes /old is only old home
[07:26] <gogeta> baa thought you had one nv
[07:26] <indus> jaime1: 1 sec i want the old /
[07:26] <jaime1> indus: yes
[07:26] <gogeta> dev lof i say so
[07:26] <gogeta> logs
[07:27] <gogeta> now im kinda bord
[07:27] <AnActivist> gogeta, wouldn't that be for trying to exploit ubuntu itself? I'm just trying to exploit simple c programs that I right
[07:27] <indus> jaime1: i think there is an error in the tutorial. /old will not have etc because /etc comes direct under /
[07:27] <kevin__> indus: did u have to make a icon for ff in gnome??
[07:27] <gogeta> nv
[07:28] <Sensiva> Hello all, in Intrepid and Jaunty there is a program that used to save my sudo password, so I don't get prompted for it again and again, now I am back to Hardy, how to do the same thing?
[07:28] <gogeta> nm
[07:28] <indus> kevin__: no
[07:28] <AnActivist> I'm trying to perhaps run a more vunerable distro instide vmware?
[07:28] <kevin__> indus: wel what the eff
[07:28] <jaime1> indus: yeah that's where mine said that the directory of file did not exits.
[07:28] <gogeta> anactivist and why would you wanna do that
[07:28] <kevin__> indus: and all my plugins are def not compatible dang
[07:28] <kevin__> no more stylis facebook
[07:28] <gogeta> anactivist best place to mess up a program (windows)
[07:29] <indus> jaime1: can you navigate to that folder /old
[07:29] <AnActivist> yes I know but I'm trying to learn about memory management inside linux first
[07:29] <gogeta> linux is prety tough to exploite its has protection inside the os
[07:29] <indus> jaime1: just tell me if you see a folder called etc in there
[07:29] <AnActivist> I basically need a distro with a 2.4.x kernel that I can run inside vmware
[07:29] <gogeta> xdsl or puppy retro are 2.4
[07:30] <gogeta> dsl
[07:30] <gogeta> or a relly old ubuntu
[07:30] <jaime1> indus:  well there was never an /old folder. it just stated that /dev/sda2 was the "old" folder. so i do sudo /dev/sda2?
[07:30] <stealth-> AnActivist: or you could take any other distro and roll back the kernel
[07:30] <stealth-> AnActivist: or get a earlier version
[07:30] <indus> jaime1: do a cd /old
[07:30] <gogeta> stealth lol and brake everything
[07:30] <jaime1> ok
[07:31] <stealth-> gogeta: well if its in a vm, he doesnt have much to loose
[07:31] <stealth-> gogeta: and installing a new kernel isnt that hard
[07:31] <gogeta> stealth he will suceed in braking it lol
[07:31] <jaime1> indus: ok now look for a etc?
[07:31] <indus> yes
[07:31] <indus> cd /etc
[07:31] <kevin__> indus: eff the beta of ff... lmao, ill stick with my 3.1 or watev
[07:31] <indus> jaime1: no just cd etc( no slash)
[07:31] <stealth-> gogeta: heh
[07:32] <indus> kevin__: its not even a beta now
[07:32] <AnActivist> stealth-, how do I roll back the kernel?
[07:32] <kevin__> well it say its not final..?
[07:32] <mcrandello_> alright as I understand it here
[07:32] <stealth-> AnActivist: simply install a older kernel........
[07:32] <mcrandello_> http://dustinkirkland.wordpress.com/2008/08/06/encrypted-private-directories-in-ubuntu-intrepid/
[07:32] <jaime1> indus:  well i put the dash and it took me to, ubuntu@ubuntu: /etc$
[07:32] <indus> jaime1: good
[07:32] <gogeta> stealth lol if i said what i whanted to they would kick me lol
[07:32] <gogeta> stealth a old joke
[07:32] <indus> jaime1: now cat fstab
[07:32] <indus> paste it
[07:33] <mcrandello_> there is no way to recover the passphrase used to decrypt an encrypted private dir once .ecryptfs is gone
[07:33] <rashed2020_> Does it matter what distro a binary is made for?
[07:33] <stealth-> AnActivist: you can google for instructions on installing a kernel, just make sure you use the files from an older kernel.
[07:33] <stealth-> gogeta: pm me it, I wanna hear it :P
[07:33] <jaime1> indus: nope exactly the same as the ones i showed you
[07:33] <Papageno> I feel silly asking this, but I accidentally unset show menubar and I'm unsure as to how to set it again since I no longer have access to the menu bar to do this. So how do I?
[07:33] <losher> rashed2020_: yes, it matters a lot usually...
[07:34] <indus> jaime1: yes cos thats your ubuntu installation fstab
[07:34] <indus> jaime1: paste it here
[07:34] <rashed2020_> losher, I'm getting a file not found when I try running the .bin file. Is that the error I'm supposed to be getting?
[07:35] <losher> rashed2020_: back up a bit. What .bin file are you trying to "run", and where did you get it?
[07:36] <indus> jaime1: ? the file
[07:36] <nomin> is there a way to play with the sreensavers with a separate program?
[07:36] <nomin> there's a cool screensaver installed by default that shows different molecules and I want to go through each one manually
[07:36] <nomin> they're in 3-D and they move around
[07:37] <rashed2020_> losher, RealNetworks Helix Media Server. It says it's for RHEL, figured I'd try it on Ubuntu instead of downloading CentOS
[07:37] <nomin> it's the Molecule screensaver
[07:37] <brennus> ok, so Ubuntu says that Transmission is already running, but I don't see it on my desktop and I'm not using it. Is there a way to shut it down or make it visible, either way?
[07:38] <nomin> brennus: is it in the tray?
[07:38] <losher> rashed2020_: brave of you. I'd be surprised it if works. So the .bin file is supposed to be one of those self-extracting install scripts?
[07:38] <indus> brennus: right click on gnome panel, add application window list
[07:39] <rashed2020_> losher, Yep. That's exactly what is.
[07:39] <milo_> please how could I fiix this: Authentication failed when i type su -
[07:39] <ziroday> milo_: use sudo <applicationname>
[07:39] <lstarnes> milo_: use sudo -i
[07:39] <brennus> indus: I already have application window list. Transmission is not in the list, yet ubuntu says it's running already when I try to open it
[07:39] <losher> rashed2020_: try making it executable e.g. chmod +x file.bin then run it ./file.bin
[07:39] <brennus> nomin: nope.  but it never is
[07:40] <indus> brennus: then kill it from system monitor
[07:40] <nomin> lol.  Looks like other people like this Molecule screensaver too:  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=291503
[07:40] <milo_> thanks guys, but i want to understand why it's saying authentication failed
[07:41] <ziroday> milo_: su is depreciated in ubuntu, you should use sudo (-i) instead
[07:41] <rashed2020_> losher, Tried that. No use. I'm surprised it says file not found. I'm on a 32bit system, so installing ia32-libs isn't the solution to this either :/
[07:41] <milo_> ziroday: i see. thanks
[07:41] <SandGorgon> how do i check whether my laptop hdd is connected via sata interface or not? is there any lshw-like command
[07:41] <h6w1> How do I upgrade Ubuntu on a USB key?  If I try to upgrade, I run out of disk space pretty quickly.
[07:42] <losher> rashed2020_: run 'file file.bin' and see what kind of file 'file' thinks it is, if you see what I mean...
[07:43] <ziroday> SandGorgon: you can see that with smartmontools. Install it and do smartctl -a /dev/<harddrive>
[07:43] <brennus> indus:thank you! that was just what I was looking for
[07:43] <indus> brennus: :)
[07:44] <rashed2020_> losher, rs1201-ga-linux-rhel5.bin: ELF 32-bit LSB executable, Intel 80386, version 1 (SYSV), dynamically linked (uses shared libs), for GNU/Linux 2.6.9, not stripped
[07:45] <_M4rk_> i have setup domains on my vps using apache manually. when doing this, is there a way to view the domains like with cpanel you can go to <ip>/~name. is there anything like this i can do?
[07:45] <_M4rk_> i want to view them before the domains propogate
[07:46] <om26er> how to install xorg development package
[07:46] <losher> rashed2020_: Hm. I thought it would be a shell script but it's not. There may be no way to force it to execute on your system. Does ldd rs1201-ga-linux-rhel5.bin even find the libraries?
[07:46] <ziroday> _M4rk_: a neat trick is editing your /etc/hosts file to point at the domain. So for instance foo.example.com <IP_ADDRESS> line in /etc/hosts would make foo.example.org go to <IP_ADDRESS>
[07:47] <rashed2020_> losher, /usr/bin/ldd: line 117: ./rs1201-ga-linux-rhel5.bin: No such file or directory
[07:47] <rashed2020_> I don't know if it's talking about the libraries or the actual file
[07:47] <ziroday> _M4rk_: err that should be <IP_ADDRESS>  foo.example.org in your /etc/hosts sorry
[07:47] <_M4rk_> but that would try and go to the domain wouldn't it?
[07:47] <_M4rk_> the domains are not pointing to the server yet
[07:47] <losher> rashed2020_; either way it's bad news....
[07:48] <_M4rk_> ideally i would like to go to like <ip>/domain or somethin
[07:48] <jaime1> hey sorry i guess my live cd froze or something:-(
[07:48] <SavageLunch> I'm trying to set up an FTP server
[07:48] <SavageLunch> Does anybody know how MasqueradeAddress works?
[07:49] <jaime1> hello i was having problems with mounting a new /home can anyone help me?
[07:50] <indus> jaime1: hi
[07:50] <Snooper-nix> hi
[07:50] <jaime1> indus: yeah sorry my live CD froze
[07:50] <indus> jaime1: have you moved the old partition with the mv command?
[07:50] <ziroday> _M4rk_: that's the point, you don't need the domains to propogate as you have manually pointed to them in your own computers DNS if you like
[07:50] <jaime1> indus: no i barely rebooted
[07:50] <indus> jaime1: its still mounting the old because you probably havent moved it
[07:50] <rashed2020_> losher, Sorry I disconnected by mistake. I asked if it was time to install CentOS.
[07:50] <ziroday> _M4rk_: so if you've created the subdomain in apache already it will work
[07:50] <jaime1> indus: yeah probably
[07:51] <jaime1> indus: i had all of my pages up but now they're deleted, i'm gonna have to start it again
[07:51] <losher> rashed2020_: well that's the one thing that's pretty much guaranteed to work....
[07:51] <indus> jaime1: what pages?
[07:51] <kevin__> Fedora 11 ftw
[07:51] <rashed2020_> losher, Alright. Thanks for all the help!
[07:51] <thanatos> anyone know why I can't get into #java?
[07:51] <ziroday> thanatos: #freenode will be able to help you
[07:52] <jaime1> indus: oh like the progress on the terminal, and the guides i was using and all of that
[07:52] <thanatos> i'm id'd on nickserv
[07:52] <thanatos> ok
[07:52] <indus> jaime1: the procedure is actually easy
[07:52] <indus> jaime1: a little patience :)
[07:52] <jaime1> indus: yeah i know
[07:53] <indus> jaime1: that old ubuntu / must be mounted now
[07:53] <jaime1> indus: so, so far i have the new /home mounted.
[07:53] <indus> jaime1:but arent you using live cd now?
[07:53] <jaime1> indus: yeah. i was before actually. that's why it froze. i was in the middle of processing a terminal command when it just froze.
[07:53] <linux09> hello everyone
[07:54] <indus> jaime1: now you are not on live cd?
[07:54] <jaime1> indus: i think i still have to copy files
[07:54] <indus> jaime1: just follow the steps again ,it should work
[07:54] <jaime1> indus: yeah i always was, but i just had to reboot cuz it froze. i can't get on regularly because it reading the old /home which is deleted
[07:55] <jaime1> indus: yeah i'm on that
[07:55] <indus> jaime1: it will only read the old home if you havent edited your fstab to use it
[07:55] <linux09> I will be looking to set up an IRC server on my ubuntu box, does anyone have a suggestion for a which IRC server package i should use, and also if its possible a server that outputs the IRC server stats to a webpage
[07:55] <indus> jaime1: this line /dev/sda3 /home ext3 nodev,nosuid 0 2
[07:55] <linux09> i will figure out the configuration myself
[07:56] <indus> jaime1: will make it read the new /home
[07:56] <marco614> dove sono le chat room?
[07:56] <jaime1> indus:  ok yeah
[07:56] <indus> jaime1: thats why i asked for the fstab
[07:57] <jaime1> indus: well i tried to copy the files over but i got this cannot make directory /mnt/new home permission denied
[07:57] <indus> jaime1: need to use a sudo
[07:57] <indus> mkdir /mnt/new_home ( or whatever name u want)
[07:57] <jaime1> indus: yeah i'm gonna have to go through the fstab cd /dev/ etc....
[07:58] <jaime1> indus: ok yeah i went into that /new_home
[07:58] <jaime1> indus: so now i go /fstab/ ?
[07:59] <indus> jaime1: why into the new home? the fstab is not in any home
[07:59] <kr3wie> any1 having boring and some sparetime to help a guy just started using ubuntu?:) PM me
[07:59] <indus> jaime1: its under the original ubuntu installations root partition the /
[07:59] <jaime1> indus: well isn't fstab in cd /dev/sda2 which was the original?
[07:59] <indus> /etc/fstab which i hope you have mounted under /old
[07:59] <jaime1> indus: that's where i was
[08:00] <indus> jaime1: ok if sda2 is wher you intalled ubuntu then yes its there
[08:00] <kr3wie> how do i mount bin/cue files in ubuntu ?:o
[08:00] <BigMack83> ok, i have created a user on my slice. using the cli i can login as normal. but when i use nautilus to try and use ssh/sftp to use the browser for files it doesnt accept my password. /var/log/auth.log only says invalid password. when using nautilus this is my response in the error log;
[08:00] <indus> jaime1: so can i see the fstab now ?
[08:00] <BigMack83> Jun 18 06:24:25 shamce sshd[7273]: Did not receive identification string from <IP_ADDRESS>
[08:00] <BigMack83> Jun 18 06:24:55 shamce sshd[7275]: Failed password for aneikirk from <IP_ADDRESS> port 34527 ssh2
[08:00] <BigMack83> i cant figure out why they cant login via sftp/ssh to browse files
[08:01] <jaime1> indus: ok weird. now when i go into cd /dev/sda2 it says not a directory
[08:01] <BigMack83> sorry when i say slice i mean i have a VPS server. force of habit
[08:01] <indus> jaime1: exactly, you cant do a cd device name but a  cd to the place where you mounted it
[08:02] <indus> jaime1: so do a cd /old
[08:02] <indus> cd /old/etc
[08:02] <Slart> kr3wie: you can't.. you'll have to convert them to isos first
[08:02] <Slart> kr3wie: use bchunk
[08:02] <jaime1> indus: no. cd/old/etc - no such file or directory
[08:03] <indus> jaime1: have you run this step >>> sudo mkdir old?
[08:03] <indus> jaime1: then sudo mount /dev/sda2 /old?
[08:03] <paulo> hi im getting to many open file errors while using eclipe
[08:03] <indus> jaime1: then sudo mount -t /dev/sda2 /old?
[08:03] <indus> sorry i missed the -t
[08:03] <indus> jaime1: unless you create a dir and mount it how will you see it
[08:04] <luckylucy> i want an opinion, not a distro fight.  I have xp on my laptop, debian on the servers, but i want to add a linux distro to my laptop, something with a little more "glitz" than my debian ones on the server, and works right out of the box.  something to "play with...", something "fun"... is ubuntu the one for me?
[08:04] <misc--> hello, is there a way I can run a command when a network interface comes up
[08:04] <jaime1> indus: yeah i think we're looking at completely different guides.
[08:04] <Spike1506> luckylucy, then ubuntu is the best choise imo
[08:04] <misc--> (automatically that is)
[08:04] <Spike1506> choice*
[08:04] <indus> jaime1:look athe the original guide
[08:04] <paulo> is this  an eclipse error or does  it  involve security settings
[08:04] <mobi-sheep> luckylucy: Yes. :3
[08:04] <indus> jaime1: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/separatehome
[08:04] <indus> jaime1: its good enough
[08:05] <jaime1> indus: i have no sudo mount -t on /old. only sudo mount -t on  /new home
[08:05] <jaime1> indus: ok yeah i was on another one i found
[08:05] <indus> jaime1: well,the procedure is similar
[08:05] <jaime1> http://ubuntu.wordpress.com/2006/01/29/move-home-to-its-own-partition/ i think this one is simpler
[08:06] <indus> jaime1: did you mount the ubuntu partition ?
[08:06] <indus> jaime1: i think older one is simpler
[08:07] <indus> jaime1: ok come in pm
[08:07] <kevin__> indus: seems pretty straightforward about moving /home's
[08:07] <indus> kevin__: ya well it is
[08:07] <kevin__> wat seems to be the trouble
[08:07] <indus> kevin__: but there is a critical copy featuer which shouldnt be missed
[08:08] <indus> kevin__: well,he is changing guides
[08:08] <indus> :)
[08:08] <kevin__> ...??
[08:08] <kevin__> crazy
[08:08] <kevin__> wat critical cp feature is that lol>
[08:08] <jaime1> indus:   sorry my comp all of a sudden froze. damn disk ok let me look at the older one
[08:08] <canadaeh> im now refred to as /me
[08:08]  * canadaeh is kevin
[08:09] <jaime1> indus: ok let's restart at the first step
[08:09] <indus> kevin__: well,creating a new home is easy,but making ubuntu to read it involves a lot of linkages in the home dir and moving it to new home and preserve those links
[08:09] <jaime1> indus: the sudo kdir/old thing
[08:09] <indus> jaime1: ok do the first 4 steps he says with mdir /old etc
[08:09] <canadaeh> indus: like doesnt fstab take care of all that
[08:09] <indus> jaime1: just use your partition names etc correct
[08:10] <indus> jaime1: now you are on live cd so no
[08:10] <indus> jaime1: ok i needa smoke 5 min
[08:10] <jaime1> indus: yeah
[08:10] <canadaeh> jaime1: you gettin it bro
[08:10] <paulo> help
[08:10] <paulo>  pls
[08:10] <syn-ack> hah
[08:11] <canadaeh> i just moved my /boot to a new partition so its probly around the same guide..
[08:11]  * syn-ack broke his mp3 hahaha
[08:11] <paulo> regarding open file limits
[08:11] <indus> jaime1: the concept is>> u mount the ubuntu partition ,then edit its fstab to add the new /home, and also remove the old /home
[08:11]  * syn-ack digs in to the internals of this new alpha to figure out whats up...
[08:11] <paulo> eclipse is throwing a too many open files error
[08:11] <kr3wie> any1 have time to help a n00b? PM me :)
[08:12] <jaime1> indus: yeah i get it. i'm just having problems locating the old /home
[08:12] <syn-ack> kr3wie: keep it in the channel. Whats up
[08:12] <sylwester> hello!!!
[08:12] <indus> jaime1: its under the /old/home
[08:12] <canadaeh> lol that sounds hilarious
[08:12] <syn-ack> indus: unless he already mounted the new /home
[08:12] <fosa> i'm not sure if my system is 64 bit or 32bit.. how do I tell?
[08:13] <paulo> help
[08:13] <syn-ack> fosa: what type of proc do you have?
[08:13] <canadaeh> fosa: by your processor
[08:13] <indus> jaime1: did you mount /dev/sda2 on /old?
[08:13] <fosa> core2duo
[08:13] <syn-ack> fosa: yes.
[08:13] <fosa> yes what?
[08:13] <indus> syn-ack: he is on live cd so wont matter
[08:13] <canadaeh> fosa: then its 32bit
[08:13] <canadaeh> fosa: 64 is amd
[08:13] <paulo> open file limits do they still apply yo jaunty
[08:13] <jaime1> indus: ok yeah i mounted
[08:13] <indus> fosa: canadaeh:its a 64 bit processor
[08:13] <syn-ack> indus: ah, channels moving a little fast
[08:13] <klem> Hi
[08:13] <kr3wie> well it's like imbarresing but yeah shit the same. Installed ubuntu this weekend so I'm really new with the OS, I just can't understand How to install this stuff:
[08:13] <kr3wie>
[08:13] <kr3wie>   	$ gzip -d -c bchunk-1.2.0.tar.gz | tar xvf -
[08:13] <kr3wie>   	$ cd bchunk-1.2.0
[08:13] <kr3wie>   	$ make
[08:13] <FloodBot3> kr3wie: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[08:14] <indus> jaime1: now ok cd /old/home
[08:14] <canadaeh> indus: he has a core2duo??
[08:14] <fosa> canadaeh, indus ah.. which is it?
[08:14] <indus> jaime1: thats your old home
[08:14] <Pemuda_Beruyung> kjhkjk
[08:14] <canadaeh> fosa: 32bit lol
[08:14] <jaime1> indus: yeah i'm there
[08:14] <syn-ack> indus: a core2 is a going to be either or
[08:14] <Slart> paulo: what was the limit before jaunty?
[08:14] <syn-ack> generally they are 64 if they are a newer proc
[08:15] <indus> fosa: a core2duo is a 64 bit processor but whats ur question
[08:15] <jaime1> indus:  shouldnt it be cd /old/home?
[08:15] <paulo> i've searched it was 1028
[08:15] <syn-ack> indus: you just answered it. :P
[08:15] <fosa> syn-ack, canadaeh indus i thought it was 32bit but i'm having trouble getting java-plugin to work for firefox so now i'm not sure
[08:15] <indus> jaime1: ya cd /old/home isnt that what i siad?
[08:15] <syn-ack> Its a 64 bit proc....
[08:15] <jaime1> indus: ok
[08:15] <JediMaster> Hi guys, every once in a while (it's been about a month now) one of our ubuntu servers has some ext3 issues and sets the root partition as read only, can anyone help me figure out why? the drive is on a raid 0 mirrored array, and I've just checked it's running without problems
[08:15] <kr3wie> well it's like imbarresing but yeah shit the same. Installed ubuntu this weekend so I'm really new with the OS, I just can't understand How to install this stuff:$ gzip -d -c bchunk-1.2.0.tar.gz | tar xvf - $ cd bchunk-1.2.0 $ make # make install. I understand that i should use the terminal, but... argh how does this work O_O
[08:15] <syn-ack> fosa: Now to be honest, it will work either way as a 32 or 64 bit mode
[08:16] <jaime1> indus: so now find . -depth -print 0, etc....?
[08:16] <indus> jaime1: but i believe you moved the old home so i dont think you can find it
[08:16] <jussi01> !language | kr3wie
[08:16] <JediMaster> dmesg gives: [3249572.040012] TCP: Treason uncloaked! Peer <IP_ADDRESS>:51689/80 shrinks window<PHONE_NUMBER>:1988587118. Repaired.
[08:16] <JediMaster> [3249572.528009] TCP: Treason uncloaked! Peer <IP_ADDRESS>:51689/80 shrinks window<PHONE_NUMBER>:1988587118. Repaired.
[08:16] <JediMaster> [3325037.976009] TCP: Treason uncloaked! Peer <IP_ADDRESS>:52517/80 shrinks window<PHONE_NUMBER>:4261302660. Repaired.
[08:16] <JediMaster> [3588274.983534] possible SYN flooding on port 80. Sending cookies.
[08:16] <canadaeh> fosa: if u have more then 2gb of ram go 64bit.
[08:16] <syn-ack> wow, this is a fast moving channel
[08:16] <FloodBot3> JediMaster: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[08:16] <JediMaster> [3705951.315428] EXT3-fs error (device sda1): htree_dirblock_to_tree: bad entry in directory #10101430: rec_len % 4 != 0 - offset=0, inode=59125094, rec_len=41821, name_len=78
[08:16] <paulo> im working on eclipse and threw a too many open files error hoew do i fix that
[08:16] <fosa> iced-tea isn't working
[08:16] <jaime1> indus: ok so i skip that step, then where do i go?
[08:16] <fosa> canadaeh, i'm at 3gb, but where is the option to choose the proc speed?
[08:17] <Slart> paulo: there are no limits set in /etc/security/limits.conf .. perhaps somewhere else..
[08:17] <JediMaster> oops, right paste, thought I had 1 line
[08:17] <kr3wie> well it's like imbarresing. Installed ubuntu this weekend so I'm really new with the OS, I just can't understand How to install this stuff:$ gzip -d -c bchunk-1.2.0.tar.gz | tar xvf - $ cd bchunk-1.2.0 $ make # make install. I understand that i should use the terminal, but... argh how does this work O_O
[08:17] <JediMaster> sorry =(
[08:17] <syn-ack> fosa: /proc/
[08:17] <paulo> they are all commented
[08:17] <indus> jaime1: do the 4th step sudo mkdir /old/home
[08:17] <paulo> with #
[08:17] <JediMaster> this was the relevant line: EXT3-fs error (device sda1): htree_dirblock_to_tree: bad entry in directory #10101430: rec_len % 4 != 0 - offset=0, inode=59125094, rec_len=41821, name_len=78
[08:17] <jussi01> kr3wie: what are you trying to install?
[08:17] <jaime1> indus:  i get cannot create directory /old/home file exists
[08:18] <jaime1> indus: it's there
[08:18] <cheaba> anyone up
[08:18] <cah_batang> halo ndez
[08:18] <indus> jaime1: ok np that means you created it also. can you chck whats in it?
[08:18] <paulo> Slart: is there another configuration file i need to modify
[08:18] <cheaba> hi people
[08:18] <indus> jaime1: cd /old/home then do a 'ls'
[08:18] <cheaba> anyone on server
[08:19] <jaime1> indus: ok gimme one sec. want me to do an LS?
[08:19] <indus> jaime1: god iam tired :)
[08:19] <indus> jaime1: ls
[08:19] <indus> small letters
[08:19] <Slart> paulo: oh.. ulimit lists it as 1024 on my jaunty box.. can't you set it using ulimit?
[08:19] <Anirban1987> While installing Ubuntu server to work as a VPS for a web hosting company which type of server setup should I choose ? (Virtual Host Server / DNS server / LAMP server ) ???
[08:19] <jaime1> indus: yeah me too, sorry for all of this, i know how to mess around in linux, install etc, but i am no good at partitions
[08:19] <mbostwick> hello I am on ubuntu and I installed kde through apt-get but for some reasons when Im in kde 4 things start to disapear and I have to log out and log back in, anyone heard of this before ?
[08:20] <indus> jaime1: anyways does ls show something
[08:20] <Slart> paulo: this looks promising http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=638597
[08:20] <indus> jaime1: its an empty folder i believe
[08:20] <paulo> Slart: ok i'll try
[08:20] <jaime1> indus: yeah i put ls but nothing comes out so yeah its empty
[08:20] <canadaeh> Anirban1987: lamp if for apache and mysql
[08:20] <indus> jaime1: now this sudo cp /old/etc/fstab /old/etc/fstab_backup
[08:20] <detach->  hey anybody here got that crap e-mail from zenoss-jobs mailling list?
[08:20] <indus> jaime1: then this step gksudo gedit /old/etc/fstab
[08:21] <jaime1> indus: ok
[08:21] <cheaba> is there a ubuntu 9.04 server  channal
[08:21] <indus> jaime1: now this gksudo gedit /old/etc/fstab
[08:21] <canadaeh> Anirban1987:
[08:21] <canadaeh> When you reach the stage of selecting a Package Task, only select OpenSSH server. Do not select LAMP server nor Mail server. We will do those manually later, in order to control exactly what gets installed.
[08:21] <indus> jaime1: then add this line in --- /dev/sda3 /home ext3 nodev,nosuid 0 2
[08:21] <jaime1> indus: yeah i went to the fstab static file system information
[08:22] <kr3wie>  jussi01: I'm tryin to installbchunk
[08:22] <Anirban1987> canadaeh : And what is virtual host server in 8.10 ?
[08:22] <mrp> cheaba: #ubuntu-server
[08:22] <indus> jaime1: use correct device name /dev/sd* whatever
[08:22] <jaime1> indus: ok i'm right at the gksudo gedit part
[08:22] <fosa> ahhh yeah... i'm on 64bit ubuntu..
[08:22] <canadaeh> you using 8.10?
[08:22] <indus> jaime1: in his example its sda3 but whats your new home? is it sda3?
[08:22] <cheaba> vmc
[08:22] <indus> jaime1: this is most important
[08:22] <fosa> canadaeh, yeah
[08:22] <jaime1> indus: ok it is sda3 also
[08:23] <jussi01> kr3wie: open synaptic package manager, search for bchunk and click install :)
[08:23] <indus> jaime1: ok then add it then reboot
[08:23] <paulo> Slart: i type ulimit in my box it says its unlimited i'll try looking at eclipse for help
[08:23] <canadaeh> Anirban1987: at first you said VPS
[08:23] <indus> jaime1: save the fstab file :) dont forget , then reboot
[08:23] <Slart> paulo: try ulimit -a
[08:23] <jaime1> indus: well i did that gksudo gedit part it gave me this http://paste.ubuntu.com/198297/
[08:23] <jaime1> indus: where would i add that?
[08:23] <adam> Hi, How do you get flash to work in firefox properly ( i installed the plug-in - swfdec but while it plays most things flash applets like the myspace player won't work.
[08:24] <jaime1> indus: that's the part i'm at.
[08:24] <paulo> ohh so that it
[08:24] <indus> jaime1: yes its correct , at the end of the file add the line i said
[08:24] <paulo> thanks
[08:24] <canadaeh> Anirban1987: http://2bits.com/articles/installing-a-dedicated-server-or-a-vps-with-ubuntu-server-804-lts-hardy-heron-drupal-6x.html
[08:24] <indus> jaime1: after that line no 11
[08:24] <cheaba> whats the best irc packet
[08:24] <indus> jaime1: /dev/sda3 /home ext3 nodev,nosuid 0 2
[08:25] <Anirban1987> canadaeh : yeah.... for VPS web hosting while setting up the server to resell it to several clients for shared hosting is LAMP server enough ? And can u give me a web link what each of those server means in Ubuntu 8.10 interface ?
[08:25] <indus> jaime1: cool?
[08:25] <fosa> is it ok to use the linux-amd64 rpm java installation even if i'm on core2?
[08:25] <indus> jaime1: ok i need a smoke 5 min
[08:25] <indus> jaime1: you reboot and check
[08:25] <jaime1> indus:  ok so at the bottom of the fstab (old/etc) i add /dev/sda3 /home thing?
[08:25] <canadaeh> Anirban1987: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/a2hosting-ubuntu-virtual-private-server-vps-setup.html
[08:25] <indus> jaime1: yes
[08:26] <jaime1> indus: ok thanks for your help
[08:26] <indus> jaime1: done?
[08:26] <indus> jaime1: reboot ............
[08:26] <canadaeh> I've only used a LAMP server for personal
[08:27] <Anirban1987> canadaeh : So what is recommended for me ?
[08:27] <Odameyer> RAWR
[08:27] <PsyCl0ne> Morning all, could someone help me get my Lexmark X5690 setup please.
[08:27] <jaime1> indus: yeah i am
[08:28] <Odameyer> PsyCl0ne: go to lexmarks website and look for linux drivers
[08:28] <hugo> join #ubuntu
[08:28] <hugo> #join Ubuntu
[08:28] <canadaeh> Anirban1987: its going to use a lamp stack but i dont know what those other two you were asking baout
[08:28] <ectospasm> hugo: /join #ubuntu
[08:28] <chance> Is there a way to keep my netbooks evolution calander synced with my home PC and IPhone 3gs?
[08:28] <hugo> lol thanks
[08:28] <hugo> i haven't IRC'd in a while
[08:29] <PsyCl0ne> Odameyer: Ok, thanks Ill give it a look
[08:29] <hugo> hey does anyone understand encryption over the web?
[08:29] <hugo> I don't\
[08:29] <indus> hugo:neither do i :P
[08:29] <canadaeh> Anirban1987: When you reach the stage of selecting a Package Task, only select OpenSSH server. Do not select LAMP server nor Mail server. We will do those manually later, in order to control exactly what gets installed.
[08:29] <ectospasm> hugo: google SSL
[08:30] <canadaeh> says only select openssh and u set up the lamp later
[08:30] <Anirban1987> How can I upgrade my Ubuntu 8.10 server ed. x86 to Ubuntu 9.04 server ed. without reinstalling the OS from scratch ?
[08:30] <hugo> i'm looking on how stuff works I am having trouble understanding how a key is passed securely
[08:30] <PsyCl0ne> Odameyer: Sorry to bother you, but there are only Windows and Mac drivers available off of the lexmark website
[08:30] <ectospasm> Anirban1987: aptitude update && aptitude -y dist-upgrade
[08:30] <hugo> The sending computer encrypts the document with a symmetric key, then encrypts the symmetric key with the public key of the receiving computer. The receiving computer uses its private key to decode the symmetric key. It then uses the symmetric key to decode the document.
[08:30] <mobi-sheep> !upgrade
[08:30] <Slart> !upgrade | Anirban1987
[08:30] <Odameyer> PsyCl0ne: then I have no idea what to do :/
[08:30] <Odameyer> PsyCl0ne: then I have no idea what to do :/
[08:31] <Odameyer> whoops
[08:31] <FloodBot3> Odameyer: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[08:31] <FeasibilityStudy> hugo its part of the public-key encryption model..Also known as Diffie-Helman
[08:31] <PsyCl0ne> Odameyer: Ok, thanks for your help
[08:31] <hugo> yes but how is the key transferred securely
[08:31] <Slart> ectospasm: is aptitude dist-upgrade different from apt-get dist-upgrade?
[08:31] <Odameyer> PsyCl0ne: no problem man, sorry I couldn't find em for you
[08:31] <paulo> Slart: thanks worked like acharm
[08:31] <paulo> HEHEHEHE
[08:31] <hugo> if the key is encrypted with a public key that everyone knows couldn't it be decrypted by anyone?
[08:31] <ectospasm> Slart: no
[08:31] <Slart> ectospasm: or it's the -y ?
[08:31] <FeasibilityStudy> hugo no key is transferred unencrypted
[08:32] <Slart> paulo: ah.. good
[08:32] <FeasibilityStudy> hugo no.  Just knowing the public key does one no good
[08:32] <ectospasm> Slart: -y just says yes to all questions.
[08:32] <peacewise> i have inserted a live cd of ubuntu ... and how do i start gui from command line interface
[08:32] <hugo> then couldn't it be intercepted by anyone and any further transmission decrypted?
[08:32] <Slart> ectospasm: because dist-upgrade will not upgrade to jaunty from 8.10
[08:32] <canadaeh> is the discussion about gpg??
[08:32] <Slart> ectospasm: it just upgrades the current version
[08:32] <ectospasm> hugo: you need the private key to decrypt something encrypted with the public key
[08:33] <FeasibilityStudy> canadaeh ssl actually, but the principle is the same
[08:33] <hugo> how is the private key transmitted?
[08:33] <ectospasm> Slart: it doesn't?  That's news to me.
[08:33] <canadaeh> gpg encryption owns.. loves gmails gpg support..
[08:33] <peacewise> i have inserted a live cd of ubuntu ... and how do i start gui from command line interface
[08:33] <ectospasm> Slart: you may need to update sources.list first, then update, then dist-upgrade
[08:33] <Anirban1987> How much data transfer the upgrade takes in MB ?
[08:33] <Slart> ectospasm: been using debian? =)
[08:33] <Decepticon> what is the process of adding a new user for immediate use in pptpd. I tried editing /etc/ppp/chap-secrets and restarting pptpd, but it didn't seem to work
[08:33] <Decepticon> vpn
[08:33] <FeasibilityStudy> hugo but this is off-topic so u will want to take it to #ubuntu-offtopic
[08:34] <hugo> ok
[08:34] <ectospasm> Slart: yes
[08:34] <Slart> ectospasm: upgrade only updates already installed packages.. dist-upgrade will also install new dependencies and such.. it won't change the sources file to point to new repos etc
[08:34] <ectospasm> Slart: you'll have to do that manually
[08:34] <Slart> ectospasm: ubuntu has some special scripts for upgrading.. it's explained in the !upgrade factoid
[08:35] <n0gear2> !update
[08:35] <ectospasm> Slart: OK, so why are you still asking me questions if you know the answers?
[08:35] <stealth-> anyone know why I cant delete this file, even as root?
[08:35] <stealth-> dr-x------   2 stealth stealth      0 2009-06-17 21:18 .gvfs
[08:35] <ectospasm> stealth-: it's not writable
[08:35] <Anirban1987> How much file size the upgrade is ?
[08:35] <Slart> ectospasm: since you're giving advice that doesn't work for ubuntu
[08:35] <stealth-> ectospasm: oh, I didnt know things had to be writable to be deletable.
[08:35] <ectospasm> Slart: that worked the last time I did a dist-upgrade
[08:35] <stealth-> ectospasm: thanks
[08:36] <ectospasm> But that was obviously long ago
[08:36] <Slart> ectospasm: I doubt it did with ubuntu.. unless it was a very old version.. but nevermind
[08:36] <ectospasm> Slart: whatever
[08:36] <unop> stealth-, that directory .gvfs is one you can't delete, it's special
[08:37] <Anirban1987> How much size the upgrade download is from 8.10 to 9.04 (server edition)
[08:37] <mike> Ohaithur
[08:37] <stealth-> unop: any reason why it would be on my account, but not doing anything?
[08:37] <stealth-> unop: I know what it is
[08:38] <cyberghoser1> Good morning to all
[08:38] <unop> stealth-, every gnome user on the system would have that directory in their homedirectory
[08:39] <stealth-> unop: ah, okay. Rsync was trying to delete it for some reason :S Thanks for clearing that up
[08:39] <Serpardum> in windows torrent files i"m used to downloading slow like 150Kbs.  I'm downloading a vista repair cd in KTorrent, and am getting 561Kb/s basically my top dl speed.  I wonder why ktorrent is so much faster?  Or are the people hosting the file faster?
[08:39] <stealth-> Serpardum: it is most likely related to the ammount of people hosting the file
[08:39] <Slart> Serpardum: it's probably the people hosting the file
[08:40] <digdeep> hi: can I select text, copy and paste in CLI (without mouse support)
[08:40] <kr3wie> okay, now i've installed bchunk (I guess) how should i do to make a cue and bin file to a iso
[08:40] <Slart> Serpardum: there's no real reason for windows to differ in torrent speed compared to linux.. unless you've haven't configured it correctly.. or you're using a lousy client in one  of the os's
[08:40] <Serpardum> Is there a free virus checker for (k)ubuntu
[08:40] <om26er> Requested 'libdrm >= 2.4.6' but version of libdrm is 2.4.5
[08:41] <Jacka_zulu>  /server <IP_ADDRESS>
[08:41] <om26er> plz help
[08:41] <Slart> kr3wie: man bchunk will get you some instructions.. it's basically "bchunk blabla.cue blabla.bin blabla" .. it will create blabla.iso
[08:41] <om26er> how to update
[08:41] <Slart> !av | Serpardum
[08:42] <Slart> Serpardum: bah.. that wasn't the one I was looking for.. there is one called clamav.. I think the client is called clamtk
[08:42] <kr3wie> Slart: yeah, but like where should i put the files before doing this and where will the isofile end up ?;o
[08:42] <om26er> plz tell me how to update libdrm
[08:42] <Serpardum> ubottu: I once installed Debian on a machine at work.  Then took the Cd and installed it at home.  In the morning my home compouter was rootkitted.  I went to work, it was also rootkitted
[08:42] <Serpardum> er, not debian
[08:42] <Serpardum> what was it...
[08:42] <kr3wie> I've tried writing in the console like bchunk POSTAL 2.bin POSTAL 2.cue postal.iso but like, what happends next?
[08:42] <Serpardum> dont' remember which one
[08:43] <Serpardum> one I bought a CD from a store
[08:43] <Slart> kr3wie: it will end up in the current directory.. but you can specify that if you want   "bchunk /some/weird/folder/blabla.cue /some/weird/folder/blabla.bin /somewhere/else/mynewiso"
[08:43] <Animagladius> So... I just finished updating to 9.04. It worked fine the first two boots. Really. But now I get this weird error message. Starting up... Loading, please wait... | 19+0 records in | 19+0 records out | kinit: name_to_dev_t(/dev/disk/by-uuid/eaf4ee35-b0b0-41e1-a7755aedec7e8ede) = dev(8,3) | kinit: trying to resume from /dev/disk/by-uuid/eaf4ee35-b0b0-41e1-a775-a775-5aedec7e8ede | kinit: No resume image, doing normal boot... | Ubu
[08:43] <Slart> kr3wie: I think it adds the extension .iso automatically
[08:43] <cyberghoser1> what is the best backup method ? remastersys or omething else?
[08:43] <Slart> kr3wie: but check the man page.. I might have gotten the order of the parameters wrong or something
[08:44] <Animagladius> I don't get into the GUI, so I'm on the console now (with IRC), therefore I can't copy/paste nything.
[08:44] <Animagladius> +a
[08:44] <Slart> cyberghoser1: "best" would depend on what you want to do with the backup
[08:44] <Slart> !backup | cyberghoser1
[08:44] <waters> hi .. anyone got some time to help with a new install .. everytime i try i get the blue screen of death ... only get half way in when i use the safe graphics mode ... any idea?
[08:44] <Serpardum> So, ubottu, every time someone says "viruses don't exist in linux" I politly nod and know different
[08:44] <xhema_> anyone want to travel and speak at an open source conference on august 29/30?
[08:45] <Serpardum> Given, this was in the 90's
[08:45] <Serpardum> but still
[08:45] <cyberghoser1> well id like to completely backup my system like it is, but i want to know if something can compress the final iso highly
[08:45] <Animagladius> Anyone? Please :(
[08:45] <peacewise> how do we start GNOME from character line interface?
[08:45] <Slart> Serpardum: there are linux viruses now? I thought rootkits and such were the big problems
[08:45] <defrysk> kr3wie, just do cdrdao write blah.cue and it writs straight to cd (missed the thread tho so not sure if this is the thing you want)
[08:45] <adam> Isn't it start x
[08:45] <Slart> peacewise: we type sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start
[08:46] <Serpardum> Mine was rootkitted by some type of virus, because my computer I found was trying to infect others
[08:46] <Serpardum> which is a virus
[08:46] <Serpardum> but, again, that was in the 90's
[08:46] <om26er> plz help me
[08:46] <om26er> tell me how to update libdrm version
[08:46] <Slart> Serpardum: might have been a trojan or rootkit.. I think most references only mention one experimental virus for linux.. there's still malware out there though
[08:46] <waters> How do i install ubuntu 9.04 with out a gui?
[08:47] <Animagladius> Hm k, I'll try it again on myself... Thanks anyway.
[08:47] <Slart> !alternate | waters
[08:47] <Serpardum> slart: My computer was trying to infect others.
[08:47] <Serpardum> and if it was a trojan it was on the install CD
[08:47] <xikitin> cisco
[08:47] <om26er> ?
[08:47] <cisco> #hachisvertas
[08:47] <peacewise> how do i install ubuntu 8.10 with a GUI
[08:47] <peacewise> ?
[08:47] <waters> k . thanks
[08:47] <cisco> xikitinnn!!!
[08:47] <adam> Serpardum: There are virus' for Linux there's no doubt, but the chances of getting infected and extremely slim compared to Windows.
[08:47] <cyberghoser1> !cloning
[08:47] <kr3wie> hm okay then like bchunk /home/kr3wie/Skrivbord/POSTAL 2.cue /home/kr3wie/Skrivbord/POSTAL 2.bin /home/kr3wie/Skrivbord/postal.ISO
[08:47] <Serpardum> Now I always use a router anyway, so it's even slimmer
[08:47] <Serpardum> for me
[08:48] <Slart> Serpardum: oh.. sounds like a virus alright
[08:48] <kr3wie> but... i dont get any new file -.-
[08:48] <Serpardum> a router works as a good firewall I've found if configured correctly
[08:48] <Slart> kr3wie:  Postal\ 2.cue .. you have to "escape" the space
[08:48] <adam> To a certain extent.
[08:48] <om26er> how to update libdrm plz
[08:48] <defrysk> kr3wie, do you want to writ a cue bin file to a cd ?
[08:48] <Serpardum> Back then I had gone to the linux community and said, hey, whats with this virus?  And they all said, "oh, you have to configure things right"
[08:49] <Slart> Serpardum: sounds like the community we all know and love =)
[08:49] <Serpardum> it's seemed to have matured a lot since then
[08:49] <Serpardum> most of these questions people are asking here back then would of been answerd with "rtfm"
[08:50] <Slart> Serpardum: I think they might still be answered like that in certain channels
[08:50] <peacewise> Start .. how do i switch frm Command line interface to GUI in ubuntu 8.10 live cd
[08:50] <peacewise> ?
[08:50] <Slart> Serpardum: but this is getting offtopic
[08:51] <Slart> peacewise: hmm.. what happens when you boot the live cd? you get some kind of error?
[08:52] <peacewise> Slart :No error.// it directly goes into command interface... when i type sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start .. it displays "Starting GNOME display manager".. but nothing happens...
[08:53] <jaime1> hello. i made a new /home and everything seemed to be going good. but when i rebooted and started i got your directory /home/jaime does not seem to exist.do u want to use /root as a directory? can someone help me because i was sure i did everything correct
[08:53] <jaime1> the /root was my old /home or directory
[08:53] <Draglor> IS there a way to run a comman as another user (my usual login, not root) at bootup time? I tried "su $USER -c $COMMAND" but thats not executed at startup. I get the message "su has to be run from a terminal"
[08:54] <Draglor> jaime1: Whats the content of the "/root" ?
[08:54] <unop> Draglor,  in /etc/rc.local - add a line like   sudo -u user command
[08:54] <beli> Draglor: man sudo
[08:54] <jaime1> draglor: that was my old /home right now nothing
[08:54] <kr3wie> wts up now... It says Reading the CUE file: ... ouch, no space after index number.... ouch, no space after INDEX.
[08:54] <unop> jaime1,  what are the permissions of /home/jaime ?
[08:55] <jaime1> unop: well i'm on the live CD, and the /home/jaime was the new /home i created. the permission right now are default i guess
[08:55] <unop> jaime1,  ls -ld /home/jaime
[08:55] <Slart> peacewise: not really sure what to do with that.. sorry
[08:56] <Draglor> ah ok thx unop I'm coming from antoher distro where I used to use the "su $USER" instead of "sudo -u" ... can anyone tell me which setting this is for "su" that makes this behaviour? My script worked on other distros but not on ubuntu (as many others as well)
[08:57] <jaime1> unop: i get cannot access /hom/jaime no such file or directory. but the new home was just /home. the only time i ever saw /home/jaime was when i logged back in.
[08:57] <unop> Draglor, su should work .. maybe it's the context in which you run this script that matters. so, how are you running this script?
[08:57] <Draglor> it's run by rc.local
[08:57] <peacewise> Slart :No error.// it directly goes into command interface... when i type sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start .. it displays "Starting GNOME display manager".. but nothing happens...
[08:57] <waters> ok ... problem .. i just put in the live ubuntu disk .. i see the hd light blinking .. i hear the music of it starting up ... but all i see is a blue screen ...
[08:57] <Draglor> It worked in gentoo/sabayon/opensuse and fedora *g*
[08:58] <unop> Draglor, strange .. whats the exact command?
[08:58] <beli> Draglor: its because of security....and using sudo to execute ONE command is correct
[08:58] <unop> jaime1,  what is the output of    grep "^jaime" /etc/passwd
[08:58] <beli> Draglor: you did sth. that noone wants to use...even if it worked for you
[08:58] <unop> ?
[08:58] <jaime1> unop:  ls -ld /root
[08:58] <waters> this is the same problem i have if i try to install
[08:58] <jaime1> unop: sorry meant to type that in the terminal
[08:59] <Draglor> beli ... I have heard nearly 200 opinions about su and sudo ... sorry when I don't belive your opinion.
[08:59] <beli> waters: for how long did you wait after getting the blue background?
[08:59] <waters> still waiting
[08:59] <waters> ;o)
[08:59] <beli> Draglor: you dont have to....but at least start reading the manuals before you try stuff...
[08:59] <jaime1> unop: there is a /home but not a /home/jaime
[08:59] <Draglor> the command is "su draglor -c "/usr/bin/touch /home/draglor/testfile"" (atm for testing)
[09:00] <Draglor> beli lol
[09:00] <waters> beli: .. I've waiting for a few hours at one time .. or another ... right now .. 5 min's
[09:00] <Draglor> I can start it manually, but it's not executed on startup.
[09:01] <beli> waters....make it start in non graphical mode and see what is happening
[09:01] <waters> how would i do that?
[09:01] <jaime1> unop:  the output is /bin/grep:input/output error
[09:01] <beli> waters: google....there are so called boot time options
[09:01] <fosa> how are firefox plugins disabled?  For example, disabling or removing icedtea ?
[09:02] <beli> waters: also try ctrl+alt+f1  f2 .... f7   maybe you can use a console that way and check the logs
[09:02] <waters> yeah .. i can get into a console
[09:02] <unop> Draglor, that looks alright to me .. maybe su does require a terminal to run, is there nothing mentioned in the manpage?
[09:02] <kevin__> fosa: how is iced-tea treatin ya?
[09:02] <fosa> kevin__, awful
[09:03] <fosa> kevin__, but it's probably some kind of issue with ubuntu64
[09:03] <unop> jaime1, hmm .. you running that command within the live CD right?
[09:03] <jaime1> unop: yes i am.
[09:03] <Draglor> I haven't found anything yet unop ... the annoying thing is, that this works in other distros and I don't know why
[09:04]  * beli shrugs
[09:04] <unop> Draglor, ubuntu has done a few things to su and sudo that other distros havent
[09:04] <Draglor> But I'll try "sudo -u" maybe it has something to do with the sudoers settings in ubuntu (if I do a )
[09:04] <gregorah> Ok, I've been trying to figure this out for days. The webcam on my eee 1000he isn't working. there is no /dev/video* and Cheese/Ekiga/Skype doesn't find a webcam. The green light never turns on.
[09:04] <gregorah> I'm 95% confident the webcam is enabled in the BIOS
[09:04] <beli> Draglor: ubuntu is using different security, why not use what you are told? use sudo...thats what its ment for WITH ubuntu
[09:04] <DrS> Hi, i Found bug  where report  a bug ?
[09:04] <Draglor> unop: I know ... well they have some other settings, no other sudo ... and some others distros have them as well
[09:04] <ActiveFrost> does anybody know why ping -f does not show anything else except 2 dots on the next line ?
[09:05] <Draglor> beli: ment by you!
[09:05] <waters> drm? ..
[09:05] <beli> Draglor: no not by me....ask all others here
[09:05] <beli> sudo is for executing stuff as other user on ubuntu
[09:05] <Draglor> and why do i have su?
[09:05] <unop> beli, su works too - atleast it does for me
[09:06] <jaime1> unop: yeah well i'm trying to view the fstab...
[09:06] <beli> unop: shouldnt on a fresh install...maybe you altered configuration
[09:06] <Draglor> and beli? you are able to read? so what do you think should my post "But I'll try "sudo -u"" mean?
[09:06] <unop> jaime1,  mount the volume that has ubuntu installed .. and view the etc/passwd file - look for the line that has your username
[09:06] <beli> Draglor: i told you to read the manual    man sudo
[09:07] <DrS> Where i can report a bug ?
[09:07] <beli> Draglor: so dont tell me that i am not able to read
[09:07] <beli> ignored
[09:07] <Draglor> I did ..
[09:07] <kr3wie> Reading the CUE file:... ouch, no space after index number.... ouch, no space after index number.... ouch, no space after INDEX.
[09:07] <om26er> can any1 give me libdrm 2.4.6.deb
[09:07] <om26er> plz
[09:07] <kr3wie> get that errormes when trin to make an iso
[09:07] <kr3wie> whats wrong
[09:07] <unop> Draglor, beli - let this pass now .. enough aleady
[09:07] <Draglor> DrS: A bug for which app?
[09:07] <Draglor> unop: I'm ignoring him ;)
[09:07] <Draglor> So it's over
[09:08] <beli> unop: i ignored him...i hate it to be flamed while trying to help
[09:08] <waters> ok ... drm:i915_get_vblank_counter *ERROR* trying to get vblank counfor disabled pipe 1
[09:08] <jaime1> unop: so then i'll mount $sudo mount -t ext3 /dev/sda2 /mnt/old?
[09:08] <om26er> help me
[09:08] <gregorah> I'm running Ubuntu NBR
[09:08] <DrS> why i can't  install any .deb files on  Koala Alpha 2 ? : http://img269.imageshack.us/img269/7131/bugevw.png
[09:08] <unop> jaime1, that should work .. assuming /dev/sda2 is your partition and /mnt/old exists
[09:08] <ziroday> DrS: ask in #ubuntu+1
[09:09] <jaime1> unop: yeah /dev/sda2 is the ubuntu partition. /old doesn't exist but /root does. that was were all of my files were saved. i just pasted the text from the site i'm using
[09:09] <Serpardum> I'm trying to burn an iso to CD.  I put a blank CD in I don't see anything in dolphin showing it.   I right click the .iso and "burn cd image with k3b".  kbe opens up, burn medium is "Empty CD-R medium" and only one in list.  How do I get kubuntu to recognize my DVD/CD burner?
[09:09] <kraut> moin
[09:10] <Draglor> DrS: Try installing them in a commandline (dpkg -i debfile)
[09:10] <ziroday> Serpardum: that is the blank CD
[09:10]  * Serpardum slaps his forehead
[09:10] <Serpardum> thanks
[09:10] <unop> jaime1,  first let's have a look at the home directory configured for your user ..
[09:10] <ziroday> Draglor: we do not support development versions of ubuntu here, that and dpkg -i wont work.
[09:10] <beli> Serpardum: it does...the blank cd is detected bye ubuntu from your rw drive
[09:10] <ziroday> Serpardum: have fun
[09:11] <jaime1> unop: alright how do i do that?
[09:11] <Serpardum> I thought it mean the cd drive was blank. heh
[09:11] <Serpardum> it's burning now. thanks
[09:11] <Draglor> ziroday: nice behaviour ..
[09:11] <DrS> Draglor : cant install ..
[09:11] <waters> ok .. can i install from the command line of a live cd?
[09:11] <ziroday> Draglor: ?
[09:12] <ziroday> waters: yep, you can install anything you want as long as it does not require a restart
[09:13] <waters> what is the command to install ubuntu from the command line of the live cd?
[09:13] <unop> jaime1, you need the line from etc/passwd on the mounted volume that has your username (i.e. jaime)
[09:13] <syn-ack> DrS: you're running a piece of Alpha software... that wont get any support in here since its more or less "broken" right now and you have to do weird stuff to get things to work."
[09:13] <ziroday> waters: ubiquity
[09:13] <jaime1> unop: yeah the volume that has my username is /dev/sda2. so then i mount it?
[09:14] <waters> cannot open display ..
[09:14] <unop> jaime1, yes please
[09:14] <ziroday> waters: the livecd has no command line installer. You need to use the alternate cd.
[09:14] <waters> k
[09:14] <waters> just got done with the d/l ...
[09:14] <unop> jaime1, mount the volume .. then open the etc/passwd file, then look for the line that has your username .. copy and paste here.
[09:15] <beli> waters: but íf your live ubuntu fails...you should first try to fix the problems
[09:15] <waters> it's a xconf problem
[09:15] <beli> waters: yes and this Xorg problem will also be there after using the installer and booting from your harddrive
[09:16] <indus> jaime1: hi what seems to be the problem now
[09:16] <waters> ok ..
[09:16] <beli> waters: so better try to find the source of the problem first
[09:16] <jaime1> unop: ok yeah well the mount i know is sudo mount -t ext3 /dev/sda2?
[09:16] <jaime1> indus: hey well i mean it's the same thing, it's not recognizing the /home
[09:16] <unop> jaime1,  yea, use that
[09:16] <indus> jaime1: what is the error now
[09:16] <ziroday> beli: or he can install and have a system that is a lot more flexible to use then the livecd and we can diagnose the issue then. It doesn't make any difference really.
[09:17] <unop> indus, let him do what i asked him first please ..
[09:17] <indus> unop: ok sure go ahead
[09:17] <jaime1> indus: once i got into the regular one it said direcotry /home/jaime may not exist. do you want to use /root as directory. then i got could not update ICE authority file, then problem with config. server
[09:17] <beli> ziroday: ok thats true, but i would try to look what is happening first....maybe some real unsupported hardware is used on his box, but ok....lets give it a try ;)
[09:17] <jaime1> unop: ok give me one sec
[09:18] <indus> jaime1: its the error mentioned in last part of tutorial
[09:18] <pngll> I'm looking for an extraction software that auto-detects compression and chmods the files correctly. I found one a month ago, delayed its installation, and now I am incapable of finding it again. It claimed to a cl, open source equivalent of stuffit expander.
[09:18] <beli> pngll: hmm, try to search for it at freshmeat.net or sourceforge.net
[09:19] <jaime1> unop: ok it took a while, live CD kinda slow, but it should be mounted. now you want me to do the usernm thing?
[09:19] <jaime1> indus: yes i believe so
[09:20] <ziroday> pngll: I presume stuffit is just some compression software?
[09:20] <pngll> ziroday, yes
[09:20] <unop> jaime1, yea please
[09:20] <ziroday> pngll: what
[09:20] <ziroday> pngll: what's wrong with lzma, or bunzip compression?
[09:20] <pngll> I just mentioned it in case it would ring a bell for anyone.
[09:20] <gregorah_> I've got a problem with the webcam on my Eee: It's not working. It's enabled in the BIOS but I don't see anything that resembles it in /dev/ and Cheese et. al. can't find it.
[09:21] <jaime1> unop: grep "^jaime" /etc/passwd. yeah it's just loading i think
[09:21] <pngll> ziroday, no, it was a decompression tool. Basically you called the-tool the-archive.ext and it automatically detected its typed, created a folder for it, decompressed the files there and chmodded them correctly.
[09:21] <unop> jaime1, that would look at /etc/passwd on the live CD - not the one on your ubuntu partition
[09:21] <jaime1> oh ok
[09:22] <unop> jaime1, instead you'll need something like.  grep "^jaime" /mnt/etc/passwd   # assuming your partition is mounted at /mnt
[09:22] <ziroday> pngll: so, similar to the Archive Manager then?
[09:23] <unop> jaime1, but it might just be easier to navigate your partition using the GUI and open the passwd file in gedit or similar.
[09:23] <pngll> ziroday, yes
[09:23] <om26er> plz plz help me
[09:23] <om26er> Requested 'libdrm >= 2.4.6' but version of libdrm is 2.4.5
[09:23] <om26er> how to update libdrm plz
[09:23] <ziroday> pngll: sorry I'm kind of confused, what exactly are you trying to do?
[09:24] <ziroday> om26er: what packaeg are you installing?
[09:24] <beli> pngll: search fm and sf....they have plenty of stuff
[09:24] <jaime1> unop:  is gedit available in the live cd?
[09:24] <WhiteScar> hello everybody
[09:24] <unop> jaime1, yes
[09:24] <ziroday> WhiteScar: Hi!
[09:24] <beli> ziroday: he is searching for a console app that when called like "decompressor foofile"  detects the compression....and extracts it to a folder
[09:24] <om26er> ziroday i m installing intel driver
[09:24] <unop> jaime1, even if it isn't you can use a load of other programs to view the file - since it's a normal text file
[09:25] <ziroday> !intel | om26er I recommend you *carefully* follow the forum guide
[09:25] <pngll> ziroday, (and beli ) I'm looking at freshmeat now.
[09:26] <jaime1> unop: yeah it's not there ok let me if its just text i think word processor should work right?
[09:26] <pngll> ziroday, looking for a tool that allows me to stop thinking about what how the file that I just downloaded was compressed.
[09:26] <unop> jaime1,  yea, that or cat, firefox, anything
[09:28] <jaime1> unop:  yeah firefox since word processor will probably take ages to load. ok so then GUI... how can i use that through firefox?
[09:28] <beli> pngll: you know 7zip? theres p7zip for linux console...try it
[09:28] <pngll> beli, haha I just landed on the p7zip page.
[09:29] <Omar871> Hi all.
[09:29] <ziroday> Omar871: Hi!
[09:30] <beli> pngll: but basically you could write a shell script to do your job.....use the "file" command and some regexp to check what the file really contains...then use bunzip, bunzip2, unrar, ... whatever to extract it ;)
[09:30] <VSpike> Is it just me or is the "Edit Location" thing on Launchpad broken?
[09:31] <Omar871> I have this small issue regarding sound. A couple of days ago I tried to switch from ALSA to OSS4, but then I switched back. For some reason, after I switched back both built-in and external speakers started to work together at the same time. How do I disable that?
[09:32] <unop> jaime1, find the file first in the file explorer .. then just double click it
[09:32] <unop> jaime1, if nothing will open it then .. right click, open with ...
[09:32] <VSpike> When I go in to edit, there's no marker.  Eventually figured out you have to double-click the map to make it appear.  But every time I place it, when I update and go back to the main profile page it reverts to Kazakhstan
[09:32] <VSpike> And I'm in the UK
[09:32] <VSpike> I have nothing against Kazakhstan of course
[09:33] <jaime1> unop:  ok
[09:33] <Decepticon> whats the correct format for putting ip addresses into /etc/ppp/chap-secrets , the fourth field called ip addresses? can it be like this: <IP_ADDRESS>-<IP_ADDRESS>,<IP_ADDRESS>-<IP_ADDRESS>
[09:33] <yoyit2> ok so i just put OS3.0 on my phone 3G but is there a way to tether it to my jaunty?? via usb/bluetooth????
[09:33] <milligan_> what does euthanized mean ?
[09:34] <jaime1> unop: ok i think i know how to fix it. i just have to change something that looks like it was wrong in the fstab, i'll reboot and see what happens
[09:34] <VSpike> milligan_: put out of one's misery .. euphemism for being killed to prevent suffering, usually from disease.
[09:34] <hhersoy> epic -H vhost.domain -a irc.freenode.net -c \#channel1 \#channel2 -b <- is it true?
[09:35] <milligan_> ty VSpike
[09:35] <hhersoy> i need help for epic irc client
[09:35] <VSpike> milligan_: comes from greek meaning "easy death"
[09:36] <hhersoy> i cant join channel2 on -b mode epic
[09:37] <yoyit2> iphone tether jaunty
[09:37] <DrS> flash  player working but skype  isin't   ..
[09:41] <yoyit2> iphone tether jaunty
[09:42] <NS4W> DrS: in my case skype only works when i don't use another audio or video program, ie flash player, rhithmbox...
[09:42] <karthik> #join amclug
[09:42] <NS4W> i mean at the same time
[09:44] <Omar871> I have this small issue regarding sound. A couple of days ago I tried to switch from ALSA to OSS4, but then I switched back. For some reason, after I switched back both built-in and external speakers started to work together at the same time. How do I disable that?
[09:46] <ectospasm> Omar871: are you talking about the PC speaker?
[09:46] <ectospasm> You may be able to mute that in the mixer
[09:46] <beli> pngll: bloat
[09:47] <Omar871> ectospasm: Yeah, it's a laptop actually.
[09:47] <gregorah_> I've got a problem with the webcam on my Eee: It's not working. It's enabled in the BIOS but I don't see anything that resembles it in /dev/ and Cheese et. al. can't find it.
[09:47] <indus> ectospasm: so its not the pc speaker then
[09:47] <gypsymauro> hi
[09:47] <gypsymauro> I heard that next ubuntu will ship the gnome 3 testing.. what's that?
[09:47] <indus> ectospasm: internal speaker in this case is the laptop speaker
[09:47] <ectospasm> indus: yeah, I caught that.  Thanks for point it out to me again, though.
[09:47] <ectospasm> s/point/pointing/
[09:47] <indus> :) :P
[09:48] <indus> ectospasm: internal speaker is a vague term i think
[09:48] <ziroday> gypsymauro: its where there will be a package to test gnome 3 and its features.
[09:48] <indus> gregorah_: hi
[09:48] <Omar871> indus: Yeah, then what should I call it instead?
[09:48] <gregorah_> indus: heyo.
[09:48] <indus> Omar871: laptop speakers
[09:48] <indus> gregorah_: so whats the output of lspci
[09:48] <indus> lsusb
[09:48] <indus> both
[09:49] <Omar871> indus: Oh, okay. :) I will.
[09:49] <gregorah_> want me to pastebin it?
[09:49] <indus> paste i hope
[09:49] <indus> yeah
[09:50] <gypsymauro> ziroday: I got it but on gnome website there are no info about gnome3 except this :http://live.gnome.org/ThreePointZero/Plan
[09:50] <indus> !sound
[09:50] <dayo> Simple question: I am gonna do a new Ubuntu install. How do I partition my hdd such that everything in the "/usr" directory is on 1 parition, and everything else is on another?
[09:50] <gregorah_> http://pastebin.com/mc0df4f4
[09:50] <ziroday> gypsymauro: yes, that is the plan
[09:50] <dayo> Simple question: I am gonna do a new Ubuntu install. How do I partition my hdd such that everything in the "/usr" directory is on 1 parition, and everything else is on another?
[09:51] <dayo> oops sorry for spam
[09:51] <ziroday> dayo: you need to use the manual partition option, create one partition as /usr and another as /
[09:51] <indus> gregorah_: which one is ur webcam btw, i cant see it
[09:51] <ectospasm> dayo: what's the point of that?  I would think /home would make more sense as its own partition.
[09:52] <indus> dayo: very easy dayo, specify a separate /usr thats  all
[09:52] <gregorah_> indus: I'm not sure that any of them are, tbh.
[09:52] <dayo> ecto: Actually, yes it will be /home on another paritition
[09:52] <indus> gregorah_: whats the model number of laptop
[09:52] <gregorah_> Eee 1000HE
[09:52] <dayo> indus and ziro: Oh, so this is something I can do DURING Ubuntu's installtion? its not something done later ?
[09:52] <Omar871> indus: so how do I solve this? :)
[09:52] <ectospasm> dayo: yes, during installation
[09:52] <dayo> ecto: Thanks
[09:53] <ectospasm> dayo: it's possible to do it after installation, but it's really not worth the hassle
[09:53] <dayo> ecto: I agree
[09:53] <ectospasm> PPPPP principle, and all
[09:55] <indus> dayo: yes
[09:55] <Omar871> indus: How do I seperate them?
[09:55] <indus> Omar871: so laptop speakers and external speakers both make noise?
[09:55] <indus> Omar871: how have you conected the external speajer
[09:56] <Omar871> indus: Not the noise issue. They work together.
[09:56] <indus> Omar871: ya thats what i meant by noise
[09:56] <Omar871> indus: I simply connected to to the speaker slot.
[09:56] <gregorah_> indus: any ideas? Should I break out the hammer?
[09:56] <arooni-mobile___> looking for a google calendar widget that sits on my desktop or is accessible via say screenlets?
[09:56] <indus> gregorah_: which model is this laptop
[09:56] <Omar871> indus: They weren't like that before I tried to switch.
[09:57] <gregorah_> indus: Asus Eee 1000 HE
[09:57] <indus> gregorah_: and which is the webcam
[09:57] <indus> gregorah_: you said its detected in the bios?
[09:57] <gregorah_> indus: I'm not sure if any of them are.
[09:57] <gregorah_> indus: It's listed in the BIOS.
[09:58] <indus> gregorah_: as what
[09:58] <Harag> Morning
[09:59] <gregorah_> It's listed as "Onboard Camera [Enabled]"
[10:00] <Harag> On a default Ubuntu server 9.04 install is port 80 disabled/locked and how do I enable it? And no there is no apache and I dont want to run apache.
[10:00] <gregorah_> indus: It's listed as "Onboard Camera [Enabled]"
[10:00] <_vm158> hi. can you tell, where i can find documentation about ubuntu. not faq. i need docs, how it works from "/sbin/init" to desktop? thanks...
[10:00] <indus> gregorah_: ok wiat
[10:00] <indus> wait
[10:00] <Flannel> _vm158: help.ubuntu.com
[10:01] <indus> gregorah_: have you tried ekiga or skype to check webcam?
[10:01] <indus> gregorah_: what does cheese tell u
[10:01] <Flannel> Harag: No.  It's not locked.  You don't want to run apache, but you want to do something on port 80? what are you hoping to use port 80 for?
[10:01] <gregorah_> indus: yep. They don't detect any devices. There's nothing. Nothing at /dev/video* either.
[10:02] <Mavs> hi there, does "jack retsking" works on ubuntu as it does in windows?
[10:02] <clepto> anyone know if they are going to update the version of kismet in the repository to the current version soon or not?
[10:02] <Harag> Flannel: Running a lisp webserver...the server runs fine on 8080 but if I try to get the server to bind to port 80 then I get permission denied...and theserver is run by root
[10:02] <indus> gregorah_: which version of ubuntu u using?
[10:02] <Flannel> Harag: Is something already listening on port 80? (netstat -a)?
[10:03] <Flannel> clepto: What's changed about the new version?
[10:03] <gregorah_> indus: Ubuntu 9.04 (jaunty) Netbook Remix.
 no, i need not to know, how to install software or codecs, i need technical info
[10:04] <Harag> Flannel: nope nothing on port 80
[10:04] <Flannel> _vm158: There's technical information in those pages.  Is there something specific we can help you find?
[10:04] <Flannel> Harag: That's odd.  Running as root should allow you to bind to port 80 no problem.
[10:04] <clepto> flannel: pretty much everything
[10:05] <Harag> Flannel: Yeah that is what I thought aswell ...but I am no linux expert
[10:05] <clepto> flannel: the ui is completely different how the server interacts with the client and  there are a whole lot of improvments all around.
 mmm... tell direct link please. i dont see...
[10:05] <gregorah_> indus: Ekiga gives me two video devices: "*.avi (PTLIB/FFMPEG)" and "Moving Logo (Moving Logo/Moving Logo)". Cheese just detects no camera.
[10:05] <Flannel> _vm158: Direct link to what?
[10:06] <indus> gregorah_: wait i check
[10:06] <_vm158> "There's technical information in those pages" what information for example?
[10:06] <Flannel> clepto: Then no, it likely won't be.  The way software works in Ubuntu is stuff is 'frozen' to the version its released with (which is actually a couple of months old), and then only bugfixes and security updates happen after the release (well, except backports, but that's a case by case basis).  To get the new one, your best course of action right now is to ping the maintainers and make sure it gets into Karmic (the next release)
[10:07] <indus> gregorah_: install the program lvcview
[10:07] <Flannel> _vm158: Technical information on what?  What are you looking for specifically?
[10:07] <clepto> flannel: that sucks... the current version that is listed is over a year old.
[10:07] <indus> gregorah_: wait
[10:08] <indus> gregorah_: lucview from synaptic
[10:09] <clepto> flannel: i installed it the old fashioned way so its not that big of a loss but figured it would be nice to have it set up to work with apt-get.
[10:09] <gregorah_> indus luvcview?
 kernel runs "/sbin/init". "/sbin/init" runs ...? what?
[10:10] <indus> gregorah_: lucview
[10:10] <Flannel> clepto: Yeah, that's just the way software works in Ubuntu.  Once it's packaged for a version, it's easy to install it on the older versions though.  So, there is some silver lining.
[10:10] <gregorah_> indus: I don't see a lucview.
[10:10] <salm0n> could anyone tell me why ubuntu refuses to open irc:// links with any irc client i choose?
[10:10] <indus> gregorah_: aah sorry luvcview
[10:11] <clepto> flannel: are there other repositories that work with ubuntu that might be more up to date?
[10:12] <eddieate> hi
[10:12] <gregorah_> indus: installed. What do I do with it?
[10:12] <Flannel> _vm158: Ubuntu uses upstart, which is different than most others, you can find technical information here: http://upstart.ubuntu.com/  Although you'll also benefit from the standard linux /sbin/init stuff, since that's still in use as well (and that's just generic linux documentation stuff)
[10:12] <Dimitree> any idea why the Demos on the blender game CD don't work with Blender 2.49 ?
[10:12] <Flannel> clepto: Not that I'm aware of for that, no.
[10:12] <indus> gregorah_: run it :) or run with it whichever :P
[10:13] <clepto> flannel: ok thanks for your help.
[10:13] <_vm158> thanks
[10:13] <Flannel> clepto: My pleasure
[10:13] <gregorah_> indus: It gives me an error: ERROR opening v4L interface: No such file or directory
[10:14] <davro> _vm158: /sbin/init reads /etc/inittab runs script defined sysinit:/etc/init.d/rcS switches to runlevel defined by initdefault: something like that ?
[10:14] <eddieate> im trying to remove some things i installed, but if i 'sudo apt-get remove' them it just says 'Errors were encountered while processing:' what else can i do?
[10:14] <indus> gregorah_: hmmmppp
[10:14] <indus> gregorah_: ok dont know what to do now
[10:14] <gregorah_> indus: :(
[10:14] <salm0n> could anyone please tell me why ubuntu refuses to open irc:// links with any irc client i choose?
[10:15] <indus> gregorah_: oye ok  ok wait
[10:15] <indus> gregorah_: type gstreamer-properties in terminal
[10:16] <gregorah_> indus: If I mess with the default input for video, it tells me that /dev/video0 doesn't exist.
[10:17] <mmm4m5m> Hi. I have one feature request (I do not know how to report it) - start Firefox, switch to "cyrilic". I want to be able to write in "english" inside address bar and "cyrilic" inside the browser. Will be nice feature.
[10:17] <Mavs> hi there, does "jack retasking" works on ubuntu as it does in windows?
[10:17] <mobi-sheep> salm0n: Firefox?
[10:17] <indus> gregorah_: hmm ok seems like a permissions issue
[10:17] <indus> gregorah_: ok wait
[10:17] <Flannel> mmm4m5m: Well, you'd probably be better off reporting that upstream (to the firefox people, not the Ubuntu people), but....
[10:17] <salm0n> mobi-sheep: xchat, irssi, pidgin
[10:17] <Flannel> !launchpad
[10:17] <mobi-sheep> salm0n: I think you're looking for Applications under Firefox Preferences where you can edit IRC and such.
[10:18] <mobi-sheep> salm0n: I mean your web browser -- where you click the irc:// links?
[10:18] <mmm4m5m> Flannel: thanks, will try :)
[10:18] <gregorah_> indus: Doesn't seem to be a permissions issue: There's no /dev/video0 at all.
[10:18] <salm0n> mobi-sheep: yes
[10:18] <indus> gregorah_: thats all just terminal crap nvm
[10:18] <Flannel> mmm4m5m: Launchpad is where you'd to suggest it to Ubuntu people.  https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/ is where you'd go to report it to mozilla people
[10:18] <spudCakePie> hey, i remenber from years back on fedora I used to press F2 to get a "run command" dialog, is there a way to do this in 9.04?
[10:18] <indus> gregorah_: type cheese in terminal
[10:18] <ziroday> spudCakePie: alt+f2
[10:18] <spudCakePie> on gnome
[10:18] <mobi-sheep> spudCakePie: ALT + F2.
[10:18] <spudCakePie> woot thanks
[10:19] <Chaps> hallo
[10:19] <mobi-sheep> spudCakePie: ALT + F1 (for Gnome Menu) ;)
[10:19] <salm0n> mobi-sheep: yes it gives me the option of what to choose to open the link then does nothing after i choose it
[10:19] <gregorah_> indus: ok
[10:19] <spudCakePie> $ cheese
[10:19] <spudCakePie> The program 'cheese' can be found in the following packages:
[10:19] <spudCakePie>  * cheese
[10:19] <spudCakePie>  * cheese-hildon
[10:19] <spudCakePie> lol
[10:19] <FloodBot3> spudCakePie: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:20] <mobi-sheep> salm0n: You may need to add an application other than purple-url-handler (looks like Pidgin).
[10:20] <salm0n> mobi-sheep: ive tried irssi and xchat as well
[10:21] <Chaps> We are trying to get Sophos Anti-virus to run on Ubuntu 9.04 Jaunty (Kernel Version: 2.6.28-12-generic)
[10:21] <gregorah_> indus: All I see is the test stream, there's no capture going on and there's no LED on on my webcam.
[10:21] <indus> gregorah_: any output on terminal?
[10:22] <Chaps> but when there is a new Kernel update we need to re-install sophos...this is the response from Sophos support:
[10:22] <mobi-sheep> salm0n: Any help?  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=25372
[10:22] <gregorah_> indus: Error: Stream contains no data.
[10:22] <indus> gregorah_: ok
[10:22] <gregorah_> and other errors related to that.
[10:22] <gregorah_> (can't find the type of an empty stream, etc)
[10:23] <Chaps> Ubuntu compiles their Kernels with the CONFIG_DEBUG_RODATA option set to Yes. There is physically no possibility for us to get Talpa working on it.
[10:23] <Chaps> So I'm afraid for the moment the only workaround available for the customer is to compile his own kernel with CONFIG_DEBUG_RODATA set to No.
[10:23] <Chaps> Will this change back after a kernel update?
[10:23] <indus> gregorah_: does your bios have a start and finished option?
[10:24] <ziroday> Chaps: yes, as you are installing a kernel from the ubuntu repo's which has CONFIG_DEBUG_RODATA set to Yes
[10:24] <mobi-sheep> salm0n: I would think it's trivial to set up so Firefox can open irc:// chats for XChat (or any clients) but that's just me.
[10:24] <ziroday> Chaps: you will have to recompile your own kernel again, or just not update the kernel
[10:24] <gregorah_> indus: I don't think so, but where would I check?
[10:24] <salm0n> mobi-sheep: why
[10:24] <indus> gregorah_: in bios disable adn enable webcam again
[10:24] <zhangzhengxue> hello
[10:25] <unop> salm0n, do you want to have firefox handle irc:// links?
[10:25] <indus> gregorah_: wait
[10:25] <salm0n> unop yes
[10:25] <Chaps> Thanks Ziroday
[10:25] <indus> gregorah_: in bios there is a setting for bios installation set it to finished
[10:26] <indus> gregorah_: OS installation
[10:26] <ziroday> Chaps: and you do understand that anti-viruses for linux are not necessary correct?
[10:26] <ziroday> !virus | Chaps
[10:26] <salm0n> unop well firefox gives me the option to choose any irc client to open the irc link but when i choose the programs it does nothing
[10:26] <hosamelfeky> hello all
[10:27] <mobi-sheep> salm0n: Because people generally don't click on irc:// links all times and irc:// links is not often seen on the websites.
[10:27] <unop> salm0n,  open about:config .. create a new boolean called network.protocol-handler.external.irc set to true .. then create a new string called network.protocol-handler.app.irc with a value    /usr/bin/xchat -e --url=%s
[10:27] <indus> gregorah_: ok ?? go into bios and look for this , set OS Installation to finished
[10:28] <gregorah_> indus: not seeing it anywhere.
[10:28] <indus> gregorah_: shouldnt you reboot to go into bios?
[10:28] <salm0n> unop ive already tried that
[10:28] <gregorah_> indus: irssi on a different computer.
[10:28] <hosamelfeky> in body here live in egypt or korea
[10:28] <unop> salm0n,   does firefox remember those values you've set?
[10:29] <indus> gregorah_: there is an option i read so search for it
[10:29] <salm0n> unop yes
[10:29] <indus> gregorah_: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EeePC/Fixes
[10:29] <gregorah_> indus: I think that's for the 700 series?
[10:30] <indus> gregorah_: common
[10:30] <gregorah_> I don't see any bios setting like that, srsly.
[10:30] <unop> salm0n, what program are you using to handle irc:// links ?
[10:30] <hosamelfeky> i want to be afriend
[10:30] <hosamelfeky> with any one
[10:30] <salm0n> ive tried xchat, pidgin and irssi
[10:31] <davro> hosamelfeky: good luck with that !
[10:31] <indus> gregorah_: can u disable and enable the webcam again?
[10:32] <unop> salm0n, so let me get this straight .. firefox let's you setup the associations and this works so long as the programs are already running but not if they aren't ??
[10:33] <salm0n> unop no, it opens the programs when i click the irc links and choose a program but then the program just sits there and does nothing and doesn't open the links
[10:35] <unop> salm0n,  ok, you mentioned that you changed something in about:config .. did you do this before trying to associate them automatically?
[10:35] <salm0n> no
[10:35] <unop> salm0n,  are the changes you made in about:config still present?
[10:35] <salm0n> yes
[10:36] <unop> salm0n, undo them and try again .
[10:36] <salm0n> delete the string?
[10:36] <unop> salm0n, you could do that .. or change the boolean to false
[10:37] <indus> gregorah_: ? any luck?
[10:37] <mobi-sheep> salm0n: Are you using xchat or xchat-gnome?
[10:37] <salm0n> xchat
[10:38] <salm0n> unop: didnt work
[10:38] <gregorah_> indus: I couldn't find anything like OS Installation mode in the BIOS, I'm trying disabling various things and restarting.
[10:39] <indus> gregorah_: g luck