[00:07] <pteague> here's output from lshw - http://pastebin.com/mc78a6f0
[00:08] <pteague> that's under the 32bit...  x86-64 is listed under capabilities for the cpu, but i'm wondering if it's the fact that it has hyperthreading that's causing issues?  it's a dual core & appears to have 4 cpus due to the hyperthreading
[00:09] <Guest88892> !help
[00:09] <Zinn> !help For a  complete list of my knowledge visit: http://www.baablogic.net/Zinn.cgi  Other available commands: !status, !about, !bug [bug_number].
[00:19] <pteague> ok, this is fun... now the 32bit is dumping me in X with an error message stating "No Exec line in the session file: mythbuntu.  Running the GNOME failsafe session instead" ??
[00:20] <pteague> clicking ok on that gives me 'Could not find the GNOME installation, will try running the "Failsafe xterm" session'
[00:47] <darthanubis> mv: cannot stat `/var/run/motd.new': No such file or directory
[00:47] <darthanubis> even after I created such a file/dir
[00:47] <foxbuntu> pteague, this 9.04? 8.10? 8.04?
[00:47] <pteague> 8.04 32bit
[00:48] <foxbuntu> pteague, try the alternate disk
[00:48] <foxbuntu> for 8.04
[00:48] <foxbuntu> darthanubis, sounds like a permissions thing, why are you trying to mv a file from /var/run?
[00:48] <darthanubis> I am not
[00:49] <darthanubis> it seems myth is
[00:49] <darthanubis> I did not know about it, until I installed the exim package to get local mail
[00:49] <darthanubis> since I have been getting cron daemon reports of this error
[00:50] <darthanubis> I suppose I could just stop the particular cron job?
[00:51] <foxbuntu> darthanubis, motd is the daemon mytharchive uses
[00:51] <darthanubis> really
[00:51] <foxbuntu> darthanubis, no, Im just screwing with you
[00:51] <foxbuntu> ..yes
[00:52] <darthanubis> hmm
[00:52] <darthanubis> what shall I do?
[00:53] <foxbuntu> darthanubis, do you use mytharchive?
[00:54] <darthanubis> I'd like to, thats why I have it installed. But I've yet too
[00:56] <foxbuntu> darthanubis, do you have a pastebin of your logs?
[00:57] <darthanubis> not at this moment but I can make it so
[00:57] <darthanubis> http://mythbuntu.pastebin.com/f472c3c16
[01:20] <foxbuntu> darthanubis, Im not seeing anything that seems concerning, you prob need to enable cron job logs and watch the error logs of that for more information
[01:21] <foxbuntu> darthanubis, google for how to enable cron job logging
[01:21] <darthanubis> it's logging rright ot my inbox
[01:22] <foxbuntu> darthanubis, um, the cron daemon has its own logging
[01:28] <egaudet> I can't get a pvr-150 working
[01:29] <Guest88892> I have TWC and they have the option of renting dvr (i dont want this) or a HD cable box.  If i use the cable box it would hook to my mythtvbox just like it would to my TV, right?  My tv only has on analog tuner and a  Digital Tuner ATSC, QAM....so as long as I get a capture card like a pcHDTV 5500, I should be golden, right?
[01:29] <egaudet> is the averTV pvr-150 the same as the happauge pvr 150 i've been reading about on the wiki?
[01:29] <foxbuntu> egaudet, no
[01:30] <egaudet> is the avertv pvr-150 supported with any driver under linux?
[01:30] <foxbuntu> egaudet, check the wiki
[01:30] <egaudet> i see no mention of avertv 150 anywhere
[01:31] <foxbuntu> http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Category:Hardware
[01:31] <foxbuntu> egaudet, look in the forums
[01:31] <foxbuntu> egaudet, if there is no mention of it and it doesnt init, then its likely not supported
[01:32] <egaudet> i see it now on the wiki, i must have been on a different wiki page
[01:32] <foxbuntu> Guest88892, Correct (obviously there is some work in there)
[01:32] <egaudet> sorry for the noob/lazy question, thanks for the help, i'll continue reading
[01:33] <Guest88892> I guess my question is that since the tv can't read encrypted qam, a capture card that can't read it too is alright...am I understanding that right?
[01:33] <foxbuntu> egaudet, no problem, don't worry about "noob" questions, but do put effort into googling first
[01:34] <egaudet> yea the other pvr 150 kept getting in the way of my google'ing, should have just found the proper mythtv wiki first, thanks
[01:35] <Guest88892> foxbuntu: yeah, I know....I can't tell from the wiki list which ones are closer to plug and play than others.  wish I knew more about it to be able to discern better.
[01:35] <foxbuntu> Guest88892, Im not quite sure what you are asking, but Capture cards do not read Encrypted QAM directly. You have to go through a Set-top-Box first or other "cable card enabled" device
[01:36] <Guest88892> foxbuntu...I expect to go through the box
[01:36] <foxbuntu> Guest88892, the haup. PVR-150 is highly supported and common
[01:37] <Guest88892> foxbuntu, I thought that one was just analog, I was going to get one to do ATSC QAM too...I guess I said that right...LOL
[01:37] <foxbuntu> Guest88892, if its an HDTV (not just digital) cable box, You will have a few options, clear QAM recording, HD-PVR External Tuner, Firewire
[01:38] <Guest88892> well I know firewire is out
[01:39] <foxbuntu> Guest88892, Clear QAM with the right tuner will work 100%, HD-PVR is experimental at this point, and Firewire is hit and miss depending on the Cable CO and area
[01:39] <Guest88892> i guess I will go with clear qam.  That's prolly what my tv uses now would be my guess
[01:41] <foxbuntu> Guest88892, Clear QAM HD channels are usually only a few channels, local channels are the common choice, if you have the lower 70-80 channels, thats "Digital" Cable
[01:42] <Guest88892> k...even if I run it through the cable box first?  I wouldnt expect the card to tune. my guess is that the settopbox would tune.  I am just not sure what comes out of it
[01:43] <tritium> Why have there been no daily builds the past two days?
[01:43] <foxbuntu> tritium, one is coming tonight
[01:43] <tritium> foxbuntu: ok, that will be good to try.  I haven't been able to get past the partitioner since 2/16
[01:43] <foxbuntu> Guest88892, you didnt mention you ran your tv through the cable box
[01:44] <foxbuntu> Guest24284, what connection options does yout cable box have?
[01:44] <foxbuntu> Guest88892 ^
[01:45] <Guest88892> foxbuntu...yeah...sorry...not sure what to ask or say...right now I have STB -> HDTV....I think I want STB->Mythtv->TV
[01:45] <Guest88892> hold on with the other
[01:45] <foxbuntu> Guest88892, yes, that is how myth works
[01:47] <Guest88892> STB outs: cable out, s-video out, component out....it also has a IR port and optical audio
[01:48] <foxbuntu> Guest88892, ok, I assume it also has composite audio out
[01:49] <Guest88892> rca out L R, RCA digital audio, and the optical audio
[01:50] <Guest88892> its a SA 3250 HD
[01:50] <foxbuntu> Guest88892, does it have a DB9 serial port?
[01:51] <Guest88892> no, it does have usb on the front, dvi in the back, and a IR port that looks like a headphone jack
[01:51] <Guest88892> i am not sure what is actually on though.... ;)
[01:53] <foxbuntu> Guest88892, ok, you will need an IR Blaster of some type, you will need a tuner that accepts s-video
[01:53] <Guest88892> cool...thats what i figured.
[01:53] <Guest88892> could I use one that uses 75ohms thick net?
[01:55] <foxbuntu> Guest88892, I havent heard anyone call RG6 that in a very long time
[01:55] <Guest88892> lol...sorry
[01:56] <Guest88892> networking  I understand.....cable services...not so much ;)
[01:56] <foxbuntu> Guest88892, no, you wont be able to get all your channels with that, you can use it for your clear QAM however
[01:57] <Guest88892> I guess I figured that for the tv to work, the STB would massage Shotime into a unencrypted qam for the tv
[01:57] <Guest88892> or use the ATSC
[02:01] <Guest88892> I guess I am mistaken
[02:02] <egaudet> I open mythtv and click watch TV but nothing happens
[02:08] <egaudet> n/m I was gonna ask something on top of that but realized my error.  BTW the avermedia just needed a cold boot
[02:15] <Guest88892> so how does the STB get Shotime or HBO to a TV via RG6?  wouldn't it have to unencrypt the stream so the tv's clear qam tuner could "see" it?  or does it convert it to analog over the RG6?
[02:21] <foxbuntu> Guest88892, they are seperate streams of video data...the digital channels are encoded so the STB has to read them
[02:21] <foxbuntu> Guest24284, encrypted QAM essentially
[02:33] <lenswipe> hey all
[02:33] <lenswipe> !help
[02:33] <Zinn> !help For a  complete list of my knowledge visit: http://www.baablogic.net/Zinn.cgi  Other available commands: !status, !about, !bug [bug_number].
[02:33] <lenswipe> !
[02:33] <Zinn> Sorry I don't know about
[02:35] <egaudet> I have gotten video but I have no sound with pvr-150 card in mythtv
[02:40] <hads> That doesn't make a lot of sense
[02:53] <egaudet> bah I give up
[02:54] <hads> The PVR-150 encodes MPEG from the audio and video input so it should just work.
[02:55] <egaudet> that's what I thought
[02:55] <egaudet> but it's making me insane
[02:58] <rhpot1991> egaudet: have you tested sound with something else to make sure its not a system issue?
[02:58] <egaudet> yes
[02:58] <egaudet> rhpot1991, you mean just making sure my soundcard/speakers work
[02:59] <egaudet> interesting mplayer /dev/video0 sound doesn't work either
[03:01] <rhpot1991> egaudet: yep
[03:01] <egaudet> yea so I can play movies with sound, music, youtube etc...
[03:08] <egaudet> i guess i'll try to reboot
[03:12] <egaudet> well a reboot fixed it
[06:04] <pteague> it's fun when you finish installing 131% ...
[06:04] <rhpot1991> pteague: now with extra features :)
[06:24] <pteague> had to run dpkg manually to update settings before i could install anything with apt
[07:03] <Mike909> any idea how to send mythtv-frontend & mythtv-backend log messages to a remote syslog server?
[07:04] <Mike909> I see the "--logfile" option, but don't know how to have it send to a remote host.
[07:04] <superm1> Mike909, perhaps via netcat or saving the log via NFS
[07:06] <Mike909> yea, I guess i could just save the files to a share, but that sort of relies on another layer to be functioning for it to work.
[07:06] <Mike909> that said, if smbfs, or nfs is down...it  is likely the network is down in which case, no logging anyway.
[07:09] <Mike909> come to think of it, I would really like to have it log in the same fashion as a syslog facility...this way I have it both local and remote.
[07:09] <superm1> Mike909, i think nfs would probably be best.  if the network is down, at very worst you'll log locally
[07:10] <superm1> well logging for myth doesnt use syslog style logging though
[07:10] <superm1> then you are probably better just rsync'ing logs every so often
[07:11] <hads> Although NFS being down is good at bringing other things down
[07:12] <superm1> soft mounting
[07:13] <hads> Yeah
[07:14] <Mike909> if I had it logging to a share, and that share went down, would it still log locally?
[07:16] <hads> I wouldn't have thought so.
[07:16] <hads> hard mounts will put things into uninterruptible sleep, soft mounts will error after a while.
[07:16] <Mike909> yea, I wouldn't think so either...which sucks, cause if network layer goes out...I get no logging at all.
[07:23] <Mike909> thanks for the ideas. cya
[07:25] <hads> Oh. tail -f /var/log/mythtv/mythfrontend.log | logger -t mythfrontend
[07:25] <hads> Too slow
[09:58] <pteague> crap, seems i have several package conflicts... is there a way to get an entire list of conflicts?
[10:06] <pteague> hmm...  i have conflicts on libapr1, libaprutil1, libdebconfclient0, libvncserver0, update-inted, & ntp ... removing them doesn't *seem* to hurt anything on a front end
[10:49] <pteague> anybody know what the name of the sound applet is in xubuntu? i can't seem to get it added to the panel
[18:29] <psicobra> hi guys i know my aerial isn't great so i am not getting all the channels from an automatic scan so i want to add them manually but where do i get the info from to fill in all the boxes?
[20:12] <darthanubis> Cron <root@core2duo> [ -x /etc/init.d/mythtv-status ] && /etc/init.d/mythtv-status reload > /dev/null
[20:12] <darthanubis> mv: cannot stat `/var/run/motd.new': No such file or directory
[20:13] <darthanubis> why is mythtv-status trying to write to a non-existent file?
[23:55] <olskolirc> how do I take the mythbuntu out of my selected sessions at the login screen?  I uninstalled mythbuntu-desktop and even the entry is still there


[00:00] <nightwlkr> well am a newbie u can say but what's the problem? maybe i can help
[00:02] <nico480> i was trying to fix the drivers on my friend's computer and whaen I went to the hardware section to change the driver so she could get a 1024x768 res. after i put it on the one that is suspose to be the recommended driver i rebooted and got nothing but a black screen. anyone know how to change it back?
[00:04] <nightwlkr> ouch... that i think requires editing of xserver config
[00:06] <nightwlkr> press ctrl + f4 go to text based
[00:06] <nico480> ok then what?
[00:06] <nightwlkr> yikes i had a similar issue on kubuntu 7.04 that was more than a year ago
[00:07] <nightwlkr> i don't remember the location of the file :(
[00:07] <nightwlkr> let me check online
[00:07] <nico480> ok
[00:09] <nightwlkr> /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[00:09] <nightwlkr> login text based
[00:09] <nightwlkr> nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[00:10] <nico480> ok now what?
[00:10] <nightwlkr> let me try and c where i edited if i can find it i'll help u out..
[00:11] <nico480> great! thank you so much
[00:12] <nightwlkr> ok u have section "Device"
[00:12] <nightwlkr> what's the device under there?
[00:13] <nico480> nope
[00:13] <nico480> i have "get help" "write out" "read file" "prev page"
[00:13] <nico480> "next page" "cut text" "cur pos"
[00:14] <nightwlkr> it's blank?
[00:14] <nightwlkr> that means there was no file
[00:14] <nightwlkr> note that it's case sensitive X11 capital x
[00:15] <nico480> ok i didn't caps the x
[00:16] <nico480> now i have a whole bunch of writing on the main screen
[00:16] <robin0800> nico480: there is no xorg.conf file on a new install of the beta
[00:17] <nightwlkr> i didn't know that
[00:17] <nico480> well its not a new install of the beta
[00:18] <nightwlkr> Section "Device"
[00:18] <nightwlkr> 	Identifier	"Configured Video Device"
[00:18] <nightwlkr> EndSection
[00:18] <nightwlkr> u c this?
[00:18] <FloodBotK2> nightwlkr: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:18] <nico480> yes
[00:18] <nightwlkr> so it's configured video device
[00:18] <plazz> Xorg automatically detects hardware and loads the appropriate driver the majority of the time. so kubuntu ships without the config.
[00:18] <nightwlkr> not any brand or driver
[00:19] <nico480> yes have section device identifier configured video device
[00:19] <nightwlkr> so it was differnt on 7.04 ?
[00:21] <plazz> nico480: post your /var/log/Xorg.0.log to a site(the paste site linked above for example)
[00:22] <nico480> I can't because i am typing on my laptop and her computer can not get online until i fix this problem
[00:22] <plazz> nico480: does hitting alt+ctrl+f1 take you to a terminal or does the screen remain blank?
[00:23] <nico480> i have a terminal
[00:24] <plazz> nico480: type 'cat /var/log/Xorg.log', the errors x is having should be there. sounds like the driver isn't being loaded for whatever reason.
[00:24] <nightwlkr> plazz: his problem is that xserver doesn't recognise the new driver he specified
[00:24] <nightwlkr> he needs to manually configure it back to the old driver
[00:25] <nico480> it says that it has the 178 driver but was reccommended to be at 180 so when i changed it i got a black screen
[00:26] <nico480> so i have to ctrl-alt-f1 to get the terminal screenm
[00:30]  * Ev0luti0n_ boas!
[00:31] <nightwlkr> dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[00:31] <nightwlkr> this should restore to deafult state as i read online
[00:32] <nightwlkr> try it
[00:34] <nico480> do i need toput in sudo or something else first?
[00:35] <nightwlkr> yes if u r logged in as normal user
[00:36] <nightwlkr> but i doubt u have changed root pass so sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[00:36] <nico480> it says command not found
[00:36] <poincare_> hello
[00:36] <poincare_> saludos desde puerto rico
[00:37] <nightwlkr> it works fine with me
[00:37] <nightwlkr> check for a miss spel
[00:38] <nightwlkr> and don't forget the "-"
[00:38] <nico480> i did check speling and had the - in there and still got command not found
[00:39] <nightwlkr> odd
[00:39] <nightwlkr> cause i just tried it :P
[00:39] <nightwlkr> and it reconfigures everything from ur keyboard layout to graphics...
[00:40] <burner> is there a way to move widgets on the panel with a hotkey?  or do you have to use that menu item a couple things deep?
[00:41] <nightwlkr> nico480: use tabs to fill ur text
[00:41] <nightwlkr> like sudo dp tab and it will dpkg-re tab etc..
[00:42] <nico480> ok i think it was just acting stupid. now what?
[00:42] <nightwlkr> did u c a blue screen?
[00:42] <nightwlkr> asking u questions?
[00:43] <nico480> yep
[00:43] <nightwlkr> just follow it answering 1 by 1
[00:43] <nightwlkr> it'll get to ur video settings
[00:43] <nico480> ok
[00:44] <Zeikfried> Where could i find a .DEB package for the 2.6.27-9 kernel?
[00:44] <nightwlkr> it's the best way i could think of that i could do as a newbie..like i said i don't have much knowledge linux based
[00:46] <nightwlkr> nico480: let me know if it works though :P
[00:47] <nico480> i don't know what to answer the first one
[00:48] <nightwlkr> what's the question?
[00:48] <nico480> use kernel framebuffer device interface
[00:49] <nightwlkr> yes i guess
[00:49] <nightwlkr> well this is the xserver config so no matter what u do u will still b able to use the terminal
[00:50] <nightwlkr> if i'm not mistaken
[00:50] <nico480> ok i went through them what now?
[00:50] <nightwlkr> reboot .. sudo reboot
[00:51] <nightwlkr> or sudo startx
[00:53] <plazz> just startx. no need to sudo it unless you explicitly want to run it as the superuser(tip: chances are you don't.)
[00:54] <nightwlkr> what do u think plazz? should this work?
[00:55] <nightwlkr> nico480: any luck?
[00:57] <nico480> yes but now does anyone know how i can give her the option of setting her resolution to 1024x768 instead of 800x600
[00:57] <nightwlkr> :D
[00:58] <nightwlkr> what's her vga?
[00:58] <nico480> 800x600
[00:58] <nightwlkr> vga..like sis..ATI etc..
[00:58] <nico480> don't know where would i find that info?
[00:59] <nightwlkr> is it a built in vga?
[01:00] <nico480> i guess so
[01:00] <nightwlkr> what's her main board then?
[01:01] <nico480> pls tell me where to look in ordr to tell this information
[01:01] <nightwlkr> well easiest way i know of is on the mainboard
[01:02] <nightwlkr> dmesg
[01:02] <nightwlkr> but that tells u all hardware that linux has installed
[01:03] <plazz> lspci | grep VGA <- shows me at least the vga controller. (case sensitive)
[01:03] <nightwlkr> lspci |grep VGA
[01:03] <nightwlkr> oops
[01:04] <nightwlkr> 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] 661/741/760 PCI/AGP or 662/761Gx PCIE VGA Display Adapter (rev 03)
[01:04] <nightwlkr> cause i have the same issue :P but stuck on 900x600
[01:05] <nico480> 00:05.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation C51G [GeForce 6100]  (rev a2)
[01:07] <nightwlkr> nico480: checking google to c what i can find
[01:08] <nightwlkr> had same issue and still have with my sis built in vga..went and got a an ATI pci express card back then to fix this problem
[01:11] <nico480> so does anyone have any idea about how i can get this setting changed?
[01:12] <plazz> did you install the nvidia driver? is 800x600 the highest resolution you can see in System Settings > Display?
[01:13] <nico480> yes 800x600 is the highest res. that she has
[01:14] <plazz> and you installed the driver?
[01:14] <nico480> nope it came with the computer
[01:15] <nightwlkr> http://kubuntu-newbie.blogspot.com/2005/09/installing-nvidia.html
[01:17] <nightwlkr> or u can try this way
[01:17] <nightwlkr> sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx
[01:17] <nightwlkr> sudo apt-get install nvidia-settings
[01:17] <nightwlkr> sudo nvidia-glx-config enable
[01:19] <nightwlkr> hard way..easy way..u choose :P
[01:19] <ddo> :)
[01:20] <nico480> ok that really didn't get me anywhere honestly
[01:20] <nightwlkr> why not nico480?
[01:21] <nico480> ok last one says command not found
[01:21] <nightwlkr> did the first 2 install?
[01:22] <nico480> second says already newest version
[01:23] <nico480> and first one says you should explicitly select one to install
[01:24] <nightwlkr> urs is 173 no?
[01:25] <nico480> yes
[01:26] <nico480> but it says 180 is the reccommended setting
[01:26] <nightwlkr> sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx-173
[01:27] <nightwlkr> it's 35.1 mb i hope u have a fast connection..not like mine :P
[01:27] <nico480> after this operation 4026kb disk space will be freed continue?
[01:27] <nico480> yes right?
[01:28] <nightwlkr> ya
[01:28] <nightwlkr> honestly i have no clue what i'm doing :P that's what i found on google
[01:28] <nightwlkr> seems it worked for others
[01:30] <nightwlkr> nico480: u should try these step by step and try searching on google..u'd b amazed what u'll find
[01:30] <nightwlkr> i better go sleep it's 3:30 am an got work in the morning... hope i was of some assistance
[01:51] <LuisJa> oh come on people, no one of you have been able to help me
[01:51] <LuisJa> i need the help pls
[01:51] <LuisJa> i need a reinstalation of kubuntu
[01:51] <LuisJa> but now i installed 64amd, runescape now lags amazingly and cannot use HD
[01:51] <LuisJa> kubuntu 9.04 amd64
[02:00] <Zeikfried> What kernel was used in 8.04 default installation?
[02:03] <JontheEchidna> !info linux hardy
[02:04] <JontheEchidna> hmm, somehow I recall .22 being default in hardy, maybe that's with all the updates^
[02:08] <Zeikfried> Is it bad to boot up into 8.10 with the 2.6.24-16.30 kernel module?
[02:09] <Zeikfried> What command is used to see what wi-fi chip is installed?
[02:09] <JontheEchidna> Nah, I don't think that'll hurt anything
[02:09] <JontheEchidna> ifconfig maybe?
[02:09] <Zeikfried> The wi-fi card i believe he has does not work with the new kernels.
[02:10] <Zeikfried> He had it working a little bit in hardy, so i figured we would install an old kernel.
[02:12] <Zeikfried> He is running a ralink RT2700E, and it does not work in the newer versions of Kubuntu, and he barely had it working in Hardy.
[02:18] <Zeikfried> How would i get a ralink RT2700E working in 8.10?
[02:27] <justin___> hey i am lost now... and need help lol
[02:29] <justin___> ???
[02:41] <eclix> ola
[02:42] <eclix_> o que  e isso
[02:42] <eclix_> nnhioi98t6r5fghuo9p
[02:43] <eclix_> uy777treii9999y6rcxzee4
[02:44] <justin_> is anyone here
[02:44] <eclix>     here
[02:44] <eclix> myfjrds
[02:45] <justin_> ok cool i just installed kubuntu 9.04 out the box and was wondering if i could take it down a notch to just the core
[02:45] <justin_> idk if its possible but figured i'd ask
[02:51] <justin_> well this place isnt useful
[02:52] <justin_> i get more of a response from my wall-when i'm drunk
[03:50] <webbb82>  im trying to install more kicker applets doing this  can anyone please check out the link and tell me what im dong wronghttp://www.electrictoolbox.com/adding-additional-kicker-applets-with-kubuntu/
[03:54] <Zeikfried> What would i recieve better performance from EXA or XAA?
[03:58] <webbb82> is there anyway to speed up the kickoff menu
[04:02] <darcy> can someone help me with vlc?  trying to get my dvd player to work
[04:04] <darcy> hello
[04:05] <Qu4Z> Hello.
[04:05] <Qu4Z> What's not working? Try googling for 'libdvdcss2 kubuntu' or something?
[04:06] <darcy> my vlc is not playing dvds
[04:19] <webbb82> im running kde on my netbook with a small screen is there anyway to change the screen size/ resolution  , kinda like  zoom out to fit more stuff on a screen
[04:23] <karlos> ?//
[04:25] <Qu4Z> webbb82: You could try decreasing the system font size, and using a minimalist window theme?
[05:41] <Zeikfried> My icons seem to be corrupted on my taskbar, could someone tell me what might be happening? http://imagebin.ca/view/8c8U8dZQ.html
[05:41] <Zeikfried> My icons seem to be corrupted on my taskbar, could someone tell me what might be happening? http://imagebin.ca/view/8c8U8dZQ.html
[05:42] <Zeikfried> Sorry bout that.
[05:59] <ubox> anyone have resume working on an hp dv6xxx?
[06:01] <ttong> Hi all
[06:02] <ubox> hello
[06:03] <ttong> How's it going friends?
[06:03] <ubox> good, how are you?
[06:03] <ttong> very very good.
[06:04] <ttong> where r u?
[06:04] <ubox> canada
[06:04] <ubox> u?
[06:04] <ttong> thailand
[06:04] <ttong> it's raining now,
[06:05] <ubox> it looks like it may rain soon here too
[06:05] <ubox> pressure is dropping
[06:05] <ttong> i c
[06:05] <ubox> yes, what version are you running?
[06:05] <ttong> kubuntu 9.04
[06:05] <ttong> u?
[06:05] <ubox> 9.10
[06:05] <ttong> is it  good?
[06:06] <ubox> can you resume from suspend?\
[06:06] <ttong> i have not sure.
[06:06] <ttong> i'm new in ubuntu.
[06:06] <ttong> i'm testing it, how to use it.
[06:07] <ubox> yes it is great, the only thing i am having trouble with is resume from suspend and there is an issue with the policy kit that is used for packages, so i have to install from the command line but that is alright for beta
[06:07] <ubox> i sort of am as well. i used redhat and mandrake years back but was a mac user for the last few years. now i am back and using ubuntu for the first time.
[06:08] <ubox> well, kubuntu
[06:08] <ttong> ah ha,  Good..
[06:08] <ubox> i ran ubuntu 8.10 for the first few weeks on my old powerbook g4 but now i have a newer hp
[06:08] <ubox> yes, i like it much better than commercial os's
[06:08] <ttong> sound's great.
[06:08] <ttong> me too,  so i'm going  to use it.
[06:09] <ttong> is it automatically to update  from Beta to stable version
[06:09] <ttong> i mean graphic mode (no command line)
[06:09] <ubox> i am not sure, i hope so. i've begun customization
[06:10] <ttong> because now i'm  downloading ubuntu 9.10 and i don't know about that.
[06:10] <ubox> the gui for packages of any kind is having a problem with authentication so it may be possible if they fix that, then upgrade the policy kit from command line then use gui for the distro upgrade
[06:10] <delaine> hey is any one know where i can get a decent free virtual machine?
[06:10] <delaine> does* sorry
[06:11] <ubox> delaine, sorry not i. maybe someone does though
[06:11] <ttong> virtualbox
[06:11] <delaine> yeah should i just type that in kget ?
[06:11] <delaine> thanks for think though u box
[06:12] <ubox> you could try
[06:12] <ubox> i think it should be in there
[06:12] <delaine> ok
[06:12] <ubox> if not, google 'virtualbox ubuntu package' and you should find it
[06:12] <ubox> as a deb
[06:13] <delaine> i want to learn virtualmachines
[06:14] <ttong> yes, have u ever tried before?
[06:14] <ttong> which os that u need  to install in virtualmachine?
[06:14] <delaine> no its in kget thanks! ttlong!
[06:14] <delaine> i mean ttong
[06:39] <silv3r_m00n> am using kde 3.5 , can this be done that whatever folder I open it all opens in the same konqueror in another tab
[07:05] <Rhapsody> Since I normally come here when #ubuntu seems to be paying no attention (and I do actually use Kubuntu), how do I compile and install ALSA 1.0.21a on Jaunty? I'm currently using OSSv4.
[07:08] <Rhapsody> I like OSSv4, but various problems arise. Sound input from my webcam doesn't work, pSX emulator doesn't work, MPlayer is jerky because it doesn't interface properly with OSS and the developers don't want to fix it.
[07:09] <aftermarketgirl> Does setting the panels min/max size work for anyone in kde4? or is it just me? or is it just kubuntu? or... i dunno, it's a bit irritating
[07:12] <kalp> hi, I installed gnome desktop environment on my original kubuntu environment, then in both environments the title bar of all windows is blank, although the buttons (max,min,close) exist, i cant see them. what should i do?
[07:14] <kalp> hi, I installed gnome desktop environment on my original kubuntu environment, then in both environments the title bar of all windows is blank, although the buttons (max,min,close) exist, i cant see them. what should i do?
[07:14] <aftermarketgirl> kalp: i'd probably try "metacity --replace" first... see if compiz is screwing up
[07:15] <kalp> aftermarketgirl: what does this command do?
[07:15] <aftermarketgirl> you'll lose all your bling, but somewhere to start
[07:15] <aftermarketgirl> it will replace compiz window manager with metacity for the session
[07:16] <kalp> aftermarketgirl: only for the session , u sure?
[07:16] <aftermarketgirl> not totally, but you can always reverse it with "compiz --replace"
[07:17] <kalp> aftermarketgirl: ok i am trying now
[07:18] <aftermarketgirl> any luck?
[07:18] <kalp> aftermarketgirl: it did work!! thanks !!
[07:18] <aftermarketgirl> cool
[07:18] <aftermarketgirl> but you lost all your 3d effects
[07:19] <aftermarketgirl> if you want to fix them... there's something wrong with your compiz config
[07:19] <aftermarketgirl> like it's calling the wrong window decorator or something
[07:20] <aftermarketgirl> it should be somewhere in "desktop effects" preferences or... something
[07:20] <aftermarketgirl> dunno
[07:20] <aftermarketgirl> i'm just some geek
[07:21] <aftermarketgirl> but if that doesn't have a setting for it, you can install "ccsm" or "compiz config settings manager"
[07:22] <aftermarketgirl> kalp_: crash?
[07:23] <kalp_> aftermarketgirl: crash? no, it worked
[07:23] <aftermarketgirl> cool
[07:23] <kalp_> aftermarketgirl: thanks again
[07:23] <aftermarketgirl> did you see my other rant about how your 3d effects will now be gone?
[07:24] <kalp_> aftermarketgirl: u said no bling
[07:24] <aftermarketgirl> yeag
[07:24] <aftermarketgirl> yeah
[07:24] <kalp_> aftermarketgirl: where u from?
[07:24] <aftermarketgirl> basically your problem is in your compiz settings
[07:24] <aftermarketgirl> denver, colorado, usa
[07:25] <kalp_> aftermarketgirl: compiz is always causing trouble
[07:25] <aftermarketgirl> it's calling the wrong window decorator or something
[07:25] <aftermarketgirl> install ccsm and poke around
[07:26] <aftermarketgirl> where are you from kalp_
[09:11] <Rofl> thx to that fucking kubuntu beta now my laptop is broken up: after the kubuntu charging bar it stays in black screen forever, nice!!
[09:13] <Bou> Rofl: you upgraded something recently?
[09:13] <Bou> Rofl: and by the way, guess what, beta means.. beta!
[09:13] <tsimpson> 1) that language is unacceptable here, 2) it's a beta, ie not stable, 3) karmic support is only in #ubuntu+1
[09:14] <Rofl> wow by beta they should put in BLACKS at the start:
[09:14] <Rofl> warning, this beta has the potential of staying in black screen forever
[09:14] <Rofl> be careful
[09:14] <tsimpson> it's unstable, your mileage will vary
[09:14] <tsimpson> some have no issues, others do
[09:15] <Bou> displaying warning before any click.. remember me some other OS... =p
[09:16] <Rofl> warning at the downloading page
[09:16] <Rofl> yes the upgrade was to kubuntu 9.10
[09:17] <tsimpson> there is a warning
[09:17] <tsimpson> several
[09:17] <tsimpson> https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KarmicKoala/Beta/Kubuntu
[09:21] <deviser> #cakephp
[09:54] <boscop> I can't find the global proxy settings dialog in my xfce menu :(
[09:55] <boscop> where is it?
[09:55] <AngryKoala> isnt this the kubuntu channel
[09:57] <ngirard> Hi all. I've just upgraded from Kubuntu 8.10 to 9.04. One of my problems is, that the fonts configuration of all gnome apps has changed. How can I revert to my old configuration, or at least tweak it ?
[10:27] <jonathan_> good morning! :)
[10:27] <jonathan_> since i upgraded from kubuntu 9.04 to 9.10 pulseaudio doesn't work anymore. I don
[10:28] <jonathan_> I don't want to keep using PulseAudio, if there is any alternative program which does what pulseaudio does for kubuntu. Alsa didn't work with my 5.1 card for any reason, pulseaudio recognized it automatically and used all 5 channels. So is there soemething else then alsa and pulseaudio which works nice in karmic?
[10:32] <titanicheart> hey can1 help me on instaling dell studio 1535 webcam driver and software ?
[11:06] <ngirard> Hi again. What's the general strategy for overcoming such kind of errors:
[11:06] <ngirard> E: /var/cache/apt/archives/kde-nightly-kdesupport_20091009+svn1033329-0neon1_i386.deb: tentative de remplacement de « /opt/kde-nightly/share/icons/oxygen/128x128/devices/video-display.png », qui appartient aussi au paquet kde-nightly-kdebase
[11:07] <ngirard> which means that an upgrade failed just because one file (/opt/kde-nightly/share/icons/oxygen/128x128/devices/video-display.png) belongs to several packets
[11:19] <subito> i have someone on ubuntu who has tried to install kde by installing kde-core, kubuntu-desktop and kde but there is a problem when we launch the graphical desktop: the plasma board is not there and there are no windows
[11:20] <subito> is there another package to install?
[12:10] <Mamarok> subito: installing kubuntu-desktop should be enough, which Kubuntu version?
[12:57] <compilerwriter> I just installed 9.04 on my little shuttle box.  Then I did the updates.  There were four restricted updates that did not get installed.  What is with the restricted updates.
[13:05] <compilerwriter> good morning deviser
[13:05] <compilerwriter> or good night as the case may be.
[13:10] <jussi01> compilerwriter: on jaunty?
[13:10] <compilerwriter> jussi01 I think so I have lost track of names to version numbers.
[13:10] <jussi01> compilerwriter: if so, then try this in terminal: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[13:11] <jussi01> !version
[13:12] <compilerwriter> yes jussi01 jaunty.  9.04
[13:13] <jussi01> compilerwriter: so try what I said
[13:13] <compilerwriter> Doing it now jussi01
[13:13] <jussi01> :)
[13:16] <shadeslayer> hi,does kubuntu have kdelibs4-devel ot kdelibs5-devel?
[13:16] <shadeslayer> *or
[13:16] <compilerwriter> jussi01: I am now upgrading to karmic or just upgrading my shell?
[13:17] <jussi01> compilerwriter: no, not upgrading to karmic, just your packages
[13:18] <compilerwriter> I had Ibex packages jussi01?
[13:18] <jussi01> compilerwriter: no.
[13:21] <compilerwriter> jussi01: I have been out of the loop for a minute I guess.  I had been using jaunty on wubi when Minuet my *nix box died.  Now I am configuring Toccata my new *nix box.  I thought I had downloaded and installed the latest distro.  I guess not.
[13:22] <jussi01> compilerwriter: you had. dont mind the terminology, it isnt what you think ;) its just upgrading the kernel there I think youll find.
[13:23] <compilerwriter> jussi01: Thanks I am not used to Kpackagekit.    Half tempted to go get Konversation.
[13:24] <jussi01> compilerwriter: do what you wish, if you want help come here, if you want to chat, lets head on over to #kubuntu-offtopic ;)
[13:31] <compilerwriter> j #kubuntu-offtopic
[14:01] <BluesKaj> Hey all
[14:03] <Matisse> hi
[14:03] <Matisse> is there a good tool to resize a lot of images?
[14:07] <VousDeux> I've been hoping for a very long time that eventually there would be a patch, but until then I have a problem where while working inside of a vmware guest some of my keyboard functions stop working (ctrl, shift, caps). I have a little script that I manually execute to get them working again.
[14:08] <VousDeux> Besides putting this script in the crontab for minute execution, does anyone have any ideas how I can work around this issue?
[14:11] <VousDeux> I guess I should have mentioned that it is on my Kubuntu host where the keys stop working...they still work inside of the vmware guest environment.
[14:11] <BluesKaj> VousDeux, try making a bash script and placing it in /etc/int.d , rename it to an .sh file then update runlevels with sudo update-rc.d...no gurantees but it might work
[14:16] <VousDeux> I already have a little script, that I found on the forum, that I keep on my desktop and double-click each time the keys stop working.  What should I read to become more enlightened on the subject?
[14:16] <BluesKaj> !bash | VousDeux
[14:17] <BluesKaj> !script
[14:17] <BluesKaj> !bin/bash
[14:17] <BluesKaj> !bin
[14:17] <BluesKaj> ubottu, you suck :)
[14:17] <VousDeux> I found a man page for update-rc.d...perhaps that will help...thanks for your help.
[14:18] <BluesKaj> VousDeux, read about bin/bash scipts too
[14:18] <VousDeux> Okay...thanks a bunch!
[14:22] <VousDeux> Hmmm...it would be cool if I could have the fix script automatically trigger on an error event that is triggered only when the keys stop working.
[14:34] <BluesKaj> VousDeux, the vmware guest environment is windows ?
[14:35] <VousDeux> Yes. It seems to be something in Excel that breaks the keys in the host.
[14:37] <VousDeux> I use the ctrl button alot inside of Excel.
[14:37] <Pici> VousDeux: You can configure that hotkey in vbox iirc.
[14:38] <sdafsfsf> hi all
[14:39] <VousDeux> I don't know anything about vbox...I've been using  VMware for many many years.
[14:39] <VousDeux> ...since version 3.2
[14:41] <VousDeux> I wonder if there is a feature comparison somewhere that compared vbox to vmware.
[14:42] <sdafsfsf> where i can change the language?
[14:42] <jtheuer> k control center
[14:45] <VousDeux> I found a performance comparison that says vbox uses more RAM and does not use resources as efficiently as vmware.
[14:48] <VousDeux> Hmmm....vbox might be worth a look-see.
[14:50] <VousDeux> I wonder if I could directly convert a vmware guest to vbox.
[14:51] <VousDeux> ...or if I would have to use backup/restore.
[14:52] <VousDeux> Oh well...another project on my list at any rate...back to my Samba/LDAP project.
[14:52] <VousDeux> Thanks for the helpful suggestions.
[14:52] <seraphim> your are welcome
[15:14] <Matisse> is there a good tool to resize a lot of images?
[15:15] <subito> Mamarok: it worked thanks
[15:18] <BluesKaj> !konq-kim | Matisse
[15:18] <VousDeux> Matisse, I don't know of a specific program to recommend, but using the keyword 'bulk' in your search for an image editor should get you where you want to be.
[15:19] <VousDeux> ...like 'bulk image resize'
[15:20] <Pici> Matisse: Try the imagemagick package and see   man convert   once installed
[15:21] <corigo> Any Krusader users on now?
[15:27] <Matisse> thx, i'll try konq-kim
[15:30] <BluesKaj> Matisse, I'm trying to get it to work but not having much luck
[15:39] <Matisse> BluesKaj, it only shows me "convert to png" etc.
[15:39] <Matisse> nothing about the other features..
[15:44] <BluesKaj> Matisse, yeah, I'm doing some research right now ...I thought it would work , butmaybe there's some other dependencies that are required
[15:47] <thomichan> hi
[15:47] <thomichan> i'm new
[15:48] <Matisse_> BluesKaj, apt-get recommended some packages: sox toolame mpeg2dec a52dec
[15:48] <Matisse_> thomichan, and now?
[15:48] <BluesKaj> Matisse_, http://linux.softpedia.com/get/Multimedia/Graphics/Kim-2263.shtml
[15:48] <thomichan> what ?
[15:49] <Matisse_> yes, now what?
[15:49] <thomichan> I'm an idiot and i think u too
[15:49] <Matisse_> nice one
[15:50] <Matisse_> you should get your own comedy show
[15:50] <thomichan> Bye...
[15:53] <suman> how do i manage the services/programs that start at startup??
[15:53] <BluesKaj> Matisse_, those remarks weren't necessary
[15:55] <genii> Hm
[15:55] <genii> BluesKaj: I agree. Just got back to computer
[15:55] <Matisse_> seems like it didn't motivate him/her to say what he wants
[15:56] <BluesKaj> Matisse_, use the !ask prompt next time
[15:56] <Matisse_> BluesKaj, is it in a package of kubuntu?
[15:56] <BluesKaj> !ask
[15:56] <Matisse_> best idea
[15:57] <BluesKaj> bbl
[15:59] <JuJuBee> I am trying to install a program on Ubuntu 64 bit and am getting an error when trying to run the program: error while loading shared libraries: libQtWebKit.so.4: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[16:01] <genii> !info libqt4-webkit
[16:02] <JuJuBee> genii : so what do I need to install?
[16:02] <JuJuBee> libqt4-webkit ?
[16:02] <Matisse_> How do I find out, if a program is packaged for kubuntu?
[16:03] <genii> JuJuBee: Yes
[16:03] <genii> Matisse_: apt-cache search <programname>
[16:05] <|jonathan|> hey need a help
[16:05] <genii> !ask | |jonathan|
[16:06] <JuJuBee> genii : I installed libqt4-webkit and still get the same error when trying to run the program.  I even reinstalled the program...
[16:06] <genii> JuJuBee: There is one other package listed which also has that library... one sec I'll fetch the name
[16:06] <genii> JuJuBee: libqt4-dev
[16:06] <|jonathan|> im wanted to try kubuntu 7.10 but my alcatel music phones driver (which is in rar file) doesnt open , as a result i  cannot access internet cause i use the phone as a modem
[16:07] <|jonathan|> how can i install the driver which is in rar file
[16:07] <genii> |jonathan|: 7.10 is no longer supported, and it's repositories are no longer maintained. You need to go to at least version 8.04
[16:08] <|jonathan|> my god
[16:08] <|jonathan|> ohh okk bye
[16:08] <JuJuBee> genii: thanks, but no luck
[16:08] <JuJuBee> still same error when launching program
[16:09] <genii> JuJuBee: What more exactly is this program giving grief?
[16:09] <JuJuBee> ?  that is tthe only error I get.
[16:10]  * genii sips and ponders how this is not an answer to the question that was asked
[16:11] <JuJuBee> Oh, sorry, you want the program name... it is a cisco program called Packet Tracer.  A network simulation program
[16:13] <genii> JuJuBee: It's probably looking in a directory which does not exist for the libQtWebKit.so.4 file.
[16:14] <genii> (like /usr/local/lib    or so)
[16:14] <JuJuBee> any way for me to find out ?
[16:15] <genii> JuJuBee: If you have the source code, look at the Makefile or so
[16:15] <genii> (or the README or the docs on the page of where you obtained it, etc)
[16:20] <lab> hi. which is the best way to install ATI driver for ubuntu 9.04 ? I followed these instructions and they were a disaster: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI   . any suggestion? thanks
[16:24] <JuJuBee> lab: when I used ATI I installed via Envy.
[16:25] <lab> JuJuBee: on jaunty ?
[16:25] <JuJuBee> not jaunty, but intrepid
[16:25] <lab> I'm searching for jaunty
[16:25] <JuJuBee> have you tried envy?
[16:25] <lab> what is envy ?
[16:26] <JuJuBee> IT detects your video card and installs appropriate drivers...
[16:26] <JuJuBee> For use with nvidia and ati
[16:26] <lab> yes, but what is it? is it an apt program ?
[16:26] <JuJuBee> yes, sudo apt-get install envy
[16:26] <lab> let's try
[16:27] <lab> has it a gui ?
[16:27] <lab> GUI
[16:27] <JuJuBee> yep
[16:27] <lab> ok
[16:29] <BluesKaj> !envy | lab
[16:30] <BluesKaj> !BinaryDriver
[16:30] <lab> BluesKaj: the last link is the shitty help that corrupted my previous installation
[16:30] <BluesKaj> JuJuBee, you shouldn't advise ppl to use envy
[16:30] <lab> it should be banned from the official ubuntu site
[16:31] <BluesKaj> envy can break your system worse than it is now
[16:31] <lab> BluesKaj: I think that nothing is worse than the last help
[16:31] <lab> BluesKaj: the last help is really awful
[16:31] <lab> it's ridicolous
[16:31] <BluesKaj> I just got here , what's your situation ?
[16:32] <lab> BluesKaj: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI   read about 9.04. It gives instructions and then says: these instructions are not valid!!!
[16:32] <lab> then, it gives a link with a horrible procedure
[16:33] <lab> really: never seen such a horrible how-to
[16:33] <JuJuBee> BluesKaj:  I know it is not supported, but I fought with ATI for months and envy took care of the install in 5 minutes.  I went gray
[16:34] <BluesKaj> lab, that warning is meant for instructions that follow it , not before/previous to
[16:34] <lab> BluesKaj: read more accurately
[16:34] <lab> the warning says that the _above_ instructions don't work
[16:35] <lab> this is ridiculous
[16:35] <lab> and the result was that I had to installa again the OS
[16:35] <BluesKaj> JuJuBee, you got lucky...envy screwed up my setup , but I havent't used it since , about 4 yrs ago
[16:36] <BluesKaj> above binary drivers
[16:36] <BluesKaj> if you use the above binary drivers
[16:37] <BluesKaj> anyway lab , what ati card ?
[16:39] <lab> BluesKaj: radeon X1200
[16:42] <lab> sigh
[16:43] <BluesKaj> lab, purge or remove the driver you have now and install  the  'server-xorg-video-radeonhd' driver
[16:43] <lab> BluesKaj: I have to install with apt ?
[16:44] <BluesKaj> yes , it's the best way
[16:45] <lab> BluesKaj: I can't find it in the apt list
[16:45] <BluesKaj> lab there is a procedure that I can walkk you thru if you wish ..it involves dropping down to TTY prompt and stopping X in oder to to do this properly
[16:46] <BluesKaj> apt-list ?
[16:46] <lab> BluesKaj: the correct package was xserver-xorg....
[16:47] <lab> anyway, I thrust you. however I would try a simple (and clean) procedure
[16:47] <BluesKaj> yeah ok , that's correct sorry
[16:48] <BluesKaj> what driver did you install ?
[16:48] <lab> the worst thing is that all worked perfectly with 8.10
[16:48] <lab> I'm still installing the OS
[16:48] <lab> (it's on another machine)
[16:49] <BluesKaj> retrying from a live cd ?
[16:49] <lab> the official ubuntu procedure messed up all.... and now I am reinstalling the os
[16:49] <lab> yes
[16:49] <BluesKaj> ok  , the kernel module should be updated asap tho
[16:50] <p2uph05> doess anyone knwo fbdb in facebook
[16:53] <BluesKaj> as soon as you get it installed , do a sudo apt-get update , then open the /etc/apt/sources.list with alt+F2 , " kdesudo kate /etc/apt/sources.list " and delete any # in front of the repository URL lines , to activate all the repos you will need. Then sudo apt-get update again .
[16:53] <lab> yes, I know
[16:54] <BluesKaj> ok good
[16:54] <lab> let's cross fingers
[16:54] <BluesKaj> well, time for my daily walk ...BB in an hr or so
[16:54] <lab> thanks BluesKaj
[16:54] <BluesKaj> thank me when it all works :)
[16:58] <lab> BluesKaj: failed
[17:02] <lab> nothing done....
[17:02] <lab> I don't know what to do
[17:04] <ubox> mine. nvidia, may have packages and everything but it still doesn't work
[17:04] <ubox> i have drivers in my restricted list but the will not enable
[17:08] <lab> well, I messed up again my system
[17:18] <AncientSocrates> hi
[17:18] <AncientSocrates> i made a liveusb with unetbootin (kubuntu iso)
[17:18] <AncientSocrates> when i boot from usb it sends me directly to try
[17:18] <AncientSocrates> and not the menu
[17:18] <AncientSocrates> with try install check for integrity etc
[17:19] <AncientSocrates> is this normal?
[17:19] <AncientSocrates> and how do i still check the integrity of it
[17:19] <|jonathan|> when i plug my phone my kubuntu doesnt tell that found new hardware
[17:19] <|jonathan|> is it a problem or...
[17:19] <|jonathan|> :\
[17:26] <raklow3> hello
[17:27] <raklow3> how are you?
[17:27] <raklow3> any one here?
[17:27] <y-tech> yes :)
[17:27] <genii> yes
[17:28] <genii> (barely)
[17:28] <raklow3> great
[17:28] <shadeslayer> raklow3: no
[17:28] <genii> raklow3: If you have some Kubuntu related question, just state it to the channel in general, and someone may take it up
[17:32] <p2uph05> how  to connect gdata to flash?
[17:34] <ubox> anyone help me with my broken install? :) i installed the restricted nvidia drivers and after restarting so i could enable them my screen in a mess, if i start in recovery it is ok but x won't start. where do i start to revert?
[17:35] <ubox> it say's it could not load the kernel module nvidia
[17:38] <genii> ubox: Does:  apt-cache policy nvidia-glx-180 show it installed? How about nvidia-kernel-common
[17:38] <genii> Bah
[17:39] <genii> ubox: Does:  apt-cache policy nvidia-glx-180 show it installed? How about nvidia-kernel-common or nvidia-180-kernel-source ?
[17:40] <ubox> one sec
[17:40] <ubox> it is 185 installed
[17:40] <genii> So Karmic and not Jaunty
[17:41] <ubox> yes, sorry
[17:41] <ubox> but all three command return installed with 180 = 185 instead
[17:42] <genii> ubox: Same principle applies, yes. is the -185-kernel-source  installed?
[17:42] <ubox> yes
[17:42] <genii> ubox: You installed from gui or from cli ?
[17:42] <ubox> cli
[17:42] <ubox> apt-get install nvidia-glx-185
[17:43] <ubox> after checking the ubuntu docs for which version to use
[17:43] <genii> ubox: Do you have also nvidia-settings installed?
[17:44] <genii> !who | ubox (Since I am in many channels )
[17:44] <ubox> yep
[17:47] <ubox> so should i run nvidia-xconfig?
[17:52] <BluesKaj> lab, failed ...what is the message ?
[17:56] <Matisse_> !cupswrapper
[17:56] <Matisse_> !lpr
[17:57] <genii> Matisse_: What Brother printer is it?
[17:57] <Matisse_> 2040
[17:57] <Matisse_> think the wiki article will help me
[17:57] <Matisse_> if not, I'll ask
[17:58] <genii> Matisse_: apt-cache search cups| grep brother               shows a few possibles, but looks like model-specific packages
[17:58] <Matisse_> well, seems like there is package for brother printers...
[18:00] <Matisse_> but first I have to check if the manual installation works
[18:00] <genii> eg: this returns for me: brother-cups-wrapper-ac - Cups Wrapper drivers for ac brother printers, brother-cups-wrapper-bh7 - Cups Wrapper drivers for bh7 brother printers, brother-cups-wrapper-common - Common files for Brother cups wrapper packages, brother-cups-wrapper-extra - Cups Wrapper drivers for extra brother printers, brother-cups-wrapper-laser - Cups Wrapper drivers for laser brother printers, brother-cups-wrapper-laser1 - Cups Wrapper drivers
[18:00] <genii>  for laser1 brother printers, brother-cups-wrapper-mfc9420cn - Cups Wrapper drivers for mfc9420cn brother printers
[18:01] <Matisse_> I should have installed the cupswrapper driver instead of the lpr ...
[18:02] <Matisse_> whoohoo, lpr driver is also needed :)
[18:07] <Matisse_> "(Your printer's IP address)" ... what?
[18:08] <simon> hi- how can i shot files on the kde4 desktop? (files that are saved in ~/Desktop)?
[18:08] <simon> somehow this preference rejected... so there isn't showed anything.
[18:08] <Matisse_> simon, you have to use a tool
[18:08] <simon> can someone please give me hing
[18:08] <simon> hint
[18:08] <simon> ?
[18:09] <Matisse_> gadget or how its called...
[18:09] <Matisse_> see that thing in the upper right corner?
[18:10] <simon> yes - i found such a gadget... but its only showing things in a small nearly transparent window!
[18:10] <Matisse_> you can resize that
[18:10] <simon> (and right now i thought about maximizing that transparent window ...Doh!)
[18:10] <simon> thanks for your hint ;)
[18:11] <Matisse_> np
[18:13] <simon> hmm somehow it doesnt look as good as before... when i maximize it by hand...
[18:20] <Matisse_> genii, so, now I need help :)
[18:21] <ubox> what's up?
[18:21] <Matisse_> seems like i need the correct device uri for the printer
[18:22] <genii> Matisse_: It's a TCP/IP based printer?
[18:22] <Matisse_> dont know. parallel port should mean no, right?
[18:23] <Matisse_> its not a "network printer" if I remember correct
[18:23] <genii> Matisse_: Thats right. If it's a USB/Parallel cord and not an RJ45 network cord that it attaches by, then NOT a TCP/IP printer
[18:24] <genii> So there would not be an URI for it
[18:24] <snarkster> hi
[18:25] <snarkster> i was talking to someone yesturday who mentioned just using the gnome network manager since knetworkmanager isnt working for me. how do i do that?
[18:25] <snarkster> i already have gnome installed
[18:26] <kaddi> snarkster: try entering nm-applet into alt-f2 that should start it
[18:27] <smoalne> hello
[18:27] <kaddi> !hi | smoalne
[18:28] <smoalne> can someone explain the diff between kubuntu
[18:28] <smoalne> and ubuntu?
[18:29] <BluesKaj> !kubuntu
[18:29] <BluesKaj> !ubuntu
[18:30] <genii> !helpersnack | BluesKaj
[18:30] <Matisse> Maybe I've choosen the wrong "device" in the printer-change-dialog, but thats what was written on the brother instruction page
[18:30] <BluesKaj> genii :)
[18:31] <smoalne> oh ok
[18:31] <smoalne> cause i installed kubuntu
[18:31] <smoalne> and it seems like it's just another gui
[18:31] <nathalie> how can i install msn on ubuntu
[18:31] <genii> smoalne: Correct
[18:32] <genii> nathalie: Most people use Pidgin or Kopete, there is also amsn
[18:33] <smoalne> how come does my computer have updates like all the time?
[18:33] <smoalne> is it unstable or soemthing?
[18:34] <snarkster1> works good.. now how to get rid of knetworkmanager and autostart nm-applet
[18:34] <snarkster1> can someone kick snarkster out so i can change my nick
[18:34] <nathalie> ok thanks
[18:34] <Matisse> smoalne, no, there are a lot of people working on their own who finish there work at different days, some update come this day and some on the other
[18:35] <smoalne> hmmm
[18:35] <genii> !ghost
[18:35] <smoalne> is quassel the best irc client?
[18:35] <smoalne> to use?
[18:35] <smoalne> It's not that user friendly it seems
[18:36] <maco> smoalne: try konversation if you dont like quassel
[18:36] <dschulz> hi all
[18:36] <smoalne> kk
[18:36] <genii> smoalne: There are many IRC clients. Konversation, Xchat, for command-line there is also irssi
[18:36] <smoalne> thank you very much you've all been very helpful
[18:37] <dschulz> is there something wrong with keyboard layouts and kde 4.3.2?
[18:37] <dschulz> i can get it to work
[18:38] <dschulz> it doesn't gets applied from "System Settings", the only way to get it to work is 'setxkbmap -model pc102 -layout us -variant intl'
[18:39] <dschulz> the layout that doesn't get applied is English International
[18:39] <dschulz> anyone with the same issue?
[18:41] <genii> dschulz: I was before, had to do: sudo dpkg-reconfigure -plow console-setup
[18:42] <dschulz> genii: i'll try, tnx
[18:43] <nathalie> the pc says that there is no aplication for that document when i try to install amsn o emssn o piggin
[18:43] <nathalie> what should i do
[18:43] <ubox> how are you trying to install?
[18:44] <htrejh> nathalie: also, install kmess-kde4, far better imo :p
[18:44] <htrejh> nathalie: use the package manager from the kde menu
[18:47] <Snarkster> i have placed a link to the nm-applet in the autostart folder. I have also renamed knetworkmanager to ~knetworkmanager is this going to cause an issue?
[18:48] <nathalie> where is that=?
[18:48] <htrejh> nathalie: simply enter "package" in the search box
[18:48] <htrejh> it will appear
[18:49] <htrejh> and install it from that (i recommend kopete or kmess on kde btw)
[18:49] <htrejh> kopete has webcam, however kmess si far better (install kmess-kde4 to get the latest if you are interrested)
[18:51] <htrejh> nathalie: sorry kmess for kde4 is only available from its website
[18:51]  * genii smacks htrejh around a bit, feels better
[18:52] <htrejh> why? :p
[18:52] <genii> htrejh: Suggesting a program which only becomes more convoluted for a new user to install or use
[18:54] <htrejh> sorry, i tought the latest kmess was in jaunty but it's only in karmic, but i recommended kopete, which is imo better than what she was going to install ^^
[18:55] <genii> nathalie: Kopete is your best option for using the MSN system, and it also supports webcam, which Pidgin does not
[18:55] <htrejh> nathalie: yes, also did you find it?
[18:57] <digitalhead> genii: Pidgin does support webcam on XMPP networks, such as Google Talk, and more should be available by their 3.0 release
[18:59] <htrejh> digitalhead: lol, kopete supports it since years, pidgin *retards
[18:59] <bjb1959_> I just installed beta and upgraded and then tried to have the system install the nvidia driver for me but when I reboot the screen is black unless I replace "nvidia" with "nv" any ideas
[19:00] <BluesKaj> bjb1959_, which nvidia card ?
[19:00] <ubox> same here
[19:01] <ubox> my card is the go 6150, which do you have bjb1959_
[19:01] <digitalhead> htrejh: that's odd, I switched to Pidgin because Kopete wouldn't let me use my webcam or view others
[19:01] <Vistaus> hello :)
[19:01] <htrejh> digitalhead: really? works fine here last time i tried
[19:01] <dschulz> genii: tried with dpkg-reconfigure, but no luck
[19:02] <Matisse> is there a "ping" for printers/parallel port?
[19:02] <Vistaus> since a few weeks, I can't update svn versions from programs that come from sourceforgee... I get the following error:
[19:02] <Vistaus> Ohhhh jeeee: operation is not possible without initialized secure memory
[19:02] <dschulz> strange thing is, when kde is starting the layout us_intl works normally, but at some point gets deconfigured
[19:03] <Vistaus> what to do about it?
[19:03] <digitalhead> htrejh: Kopete kept saying there were missing dependencies. The error pointed me to the Kopete wiki, which had changed and the information wasn't there anymore
[19:04] <htrejh> strange, but i'm on karmic btw
[19:04] <htrejh> maybe its fixed on +1 ;à
[19:05] <digitalhead> Yeah, it probably was. Which is nice because I like how Kopete looks a lot better
[19:05] <BluesKaj> ubox, you obviously tried the nvidia-glx-185 driver , right ?
[19:05] <ubox> ya
[19:05] <ubox> why, wrong one?
[19:06] <BluesKaj> how did you install it , did you remove the default first ?
[19:07] <ubox> no, i didn't know there was one installed. i just used apt-get install nvidia-glx-185
[19:08] <BluesKaj> is it working ok ?
[19:08] <ubox> nope lol
[19:08] <BluesKaj> bbiab , post/mail  has arrived
[19:08] <ubox> if i try to use the nvidia driver instead of nv it does not start the module for xserver
[19:09] <BluesKaj> ubox, if you want to wait for a few mins I have a procedure which may work for you
[19:09] <BluesKaj> BRB
[19:09] <jhutchins_lt> ubox: How are you choosing which driver you use?
[19:09] <ubox> sure blueskaj
[19:10] <Vistaus> anyone?
[19:10] <ubox> jhutchins, i tried the hardware tool but that didn't work, just restarting x works. it changes the xorg.conf file
[19:13] <Matisse> is there a "ping" for printers/parallel port?
[19:15] <Matisse> something like command line printing?
[19:15] <Matisse> which causes printing besides all driver problems
[19:19] <BluesKaj> ubox, remove the driver in the terminal
[19:20] <BluesKaj> ubox, i rescued my X/screen by doing this :1) ctrl+alt+f1, login as user. 2) stop X  with : sudo /etc/init.d/kdm stop . 3) sudo aptitude install nvidia-glx-185 . 4) start X with : sudo /etc/init.d/kdm start
[19:20] <ubox> i got it to work, i just reinstalled the nvidia-185-kernel-source
[19:20] <ubox> with apt-get install --reinstall
[19:20] <ubox> now it works
[19:21] <BluesKaj> ok good
[19:21] <ubox> yes, thanks for the help
[19:22] <BluesKaj> the kernel source is troublesome with some cards, it doesn't choose the proper driver upon installation
[19:23] <Pavel_> does anyone know how to bypass proxies on a wireless connection?
[19:23] <ubox> apparently, you would think it would work the same on initial installation
[19:24] <ubox> i wonder if suspend/resume works now
[19:26] <BluesKaj> yeah but I think some cards are confusing the kernel source upon install , it sees it as a different or unrecognized model and reverts to nv
[19:52] <carpii_> im running gnome-do under kde 3.5.  Does anyone have a problem where the key shortcut doesnt actiavte gnome-do, until you click on the desktop and redo the keypress?
[20:13] <alexis_> how to set up border color when mouse hover window's names in the task manager in kde 4.3.2?
[20:17] <alexis_> it is not the same that button  background color
[20:20] <Mamarok> alexis_: do you use the default theme?
[20:21] <alexis_> yes but personalised
[20:21] <alexis_> it appaers blue
[20:22] <Mamarok> check in the systemsettings -> apperance, personalized means you need to check yourself what you changed
[20:22] <Mamarok> and personalized != default :)
[20:22] <milian> is it OK to format a new partition _in 9.04_ with ext4? or should I upgrade first and create the new partition then?
[20:22] <milian> any known problems in the old version?
[20:23] <alexis_> apperance -> color then ??
[20:23] <Mamarok> milian: I stayed with etx3 in 9.04 and changed to ext4 with Karmic
[20:23] <Mamarok> alexis_: I don't know, since you personalized it, I guess that's where you changed it, no?
[20:23] <milian> but you are not aware of any problems in the underlying tools in regard to ext4 under 9.04?
[20:24] <alexis_> not didt change it
[20:24] <Mamarok> milian: I wouldn't, since you probalby need the new kernel for it
[20:24] <alexis_> i use defaut themes
[20:24] <Kristinn> How do I switch from Ubuntu 9.10 beta to Kubuntu 9.04/9.10?
[20:24] <Mamarok> alexis_: well, you said otherwise earlier :)
[20:24] <Kristinn> :)
[20:24] <milian> well, the kernel in 9.04 already supports ext4
[20:25] <alexis_> i use oxygen
[20:25] <milian> maybe I should ask somewhere else
[20:25] <Mamarok> Kristinn: from 9.10 to 9.10: install kubuntu-desktop, else ask in @ubuntu+1, please
[20:25] <Kristinn> Ah, thanks :D
[20:26] <Mamarok> alexis_: there are different color sets available there, and you can personalize various things in the additional tabs, yes
[20:26] <alexis_> i yet check it kde color menu
[20:26] <Mamarok> milian: as I said, I stayed with ext3 in Jaunty
[20:26] <alexis_> but it doesnt seem affect taskmanager that is a plasmaoid no?
[20:26] <Kristinn> Does installing this completely replace the default ubuntu?
[20:27] <ygm> Hi all....i have ati 8.66 fglrx driver and i wonder if there is a gui enabled in this driver? (catalyst control center?)  i have tried fglrx-amdcccle with no luck
[20:27] <Mamarok> Kristinn: no, not at all, it only adds the kubuntu-desktop
[20:27] <Mamarok> ygm: IIRC there is a special package for that
[20:27] <Kristinn> Ah, but if I do want to totally wipe out Ubuntu, is that possible?
[20:28] <Mamarok> Kristinn: yes, just a second
[20:28] <Mamarok> !pure-kde
[20:28] <Mamarok> !pure kde
[20:28] <Mamarok> hm
[20:28] <Pavel_> does anyone know an easy way to bypass a school filter?
[20:28] <Pici> !purekde
[20:29] <Mamarok> Pici: thx :)
[20:29] <Kristinn> Thanks a lot, Mamarok and Pici :)
[20:29] <ygm> Mamarok: i guess you mean the "fglrx-amdccle" and it is installed..other ones start with libcatalyst-....
[20:30] <Kristinn> I'll come to you if everything goes horribly wrong and my house burns down :D
[20:31] <Mamarok> ygm: I can only tell from memory, and that was quite some time ago, sorry
[20:31] <Mamarok> Kristinn: most unlikely :)
[20:32] <ygm> Mamarok: okay..thanks anyway...good night
[20:32] <Mamarok> good night ygm
[20:33] <Kristinn> Thanks a lot, I'll have a glass of water to threaten my laptop with, just to be safe :)
[20:34] <Kristinn> Some of the packages could not be retrieved, do you want to continue without them? :S
[20:35] <Mamarok> Kristinn: could you please pastebin the output?
[20:35] <Kristinn> Erm, how do I do that? :S
[20:36] <Kristinn> And I'm using two computers at once
[20:37] <Mamarok> Kristinn: you already have kubuntu-desktop installed on the other Computer?
[20:37] <Kristinn> No, one is a Windows PC.
[20:37] <Kristinn> And I already downloaded Kubuntu, and it's on a disc
[20:38] <Kristinn> Can't I use that?
[20:38] <Mamarok> sorry, I understood you were changing from Ubuntu to Kubuntu, didn't you say that earlier?
[20:38] <Kristinn> Yep
[20:38] <Mamarok> then fire up that Computer where you already have Ubuntu and isntall kubuntu-desktop
[20:38] <Mamarok> install*
[20:39] <Mamarok> with sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[20:41] <Kristinn> I just get a lot of "Unable to get http//
[20:41] <Kristinn> And some text I can't be bothered to write down :S
[20:41] <Mamarok> Kristinn: are you online with that other PC?
[20:41] <Kristinn> Indeed I am
[20:42] <Mamarok> then you can copy the output into http://paste.ubuntu.com and give the URL here
[20:44] <Kristinn> http://paste.ubuntu.com/292586/ Here you go :D
[20:49] <daimonie_> Hey
[20:49] <daimonie_> I got a question
[20:49] <daimonie_> :)
[20:50] <daimonie_> I just installed kubuntu, but it would appear that vista fucked something up and itś now missing BOOTMGR
[20:50] <daimonie_> which is usually fixed by using repair mode Vista installation discs
[20:50] <daimonie_> But i got no clue as to where my disc is
[20:50] <daimonie_> Any ways of doing this just frm my kubuntu installation?
[20:51] <kaddi> you should be able to download an emergency cd for vista, which will offer you recovery console and similar to fix vista
[20:51] <Mamarok> Kristinn: looks like your mirror is not reachable
[20:51] <Mamarok> you should try with the main server
[20:52] <Kristinn> Ah, but my ISP has a really, really, really limited data cap.
[20:52] <Mamarok> daimonie_: you installed Vista after Kubuntu?
[20:52] <daimonie_> No, the other way around - i had a running vista installation with around 10GB free, which is now occupied by Kubuntu
[20:53] <Mamarok> daimonie_: then you can restore grub
[20:53] <Mamarok> !grub
[20:53] <Mamarok> see the first link above
[20:53] <Mamarok> Kristinn: and there is only one mirror I guess?
[20:53] <daimonie_> Grub is working, its just that when i hit the "windows vista" entry, i get a message from vista that "BOOTMGR" is missing (checking out the link now)
[20:54] <Mamarok> daimonie_: are you using grub or grub2 in Karmic?
[20:54] <Kristinn> Mamarok, I could change the download site quite easily.
[20:55] <daimonie_> Mamarok: i don know what that is, so its the kubuntu alt disc default
[20:55] <Mamarok> Kristinn: well, since the 404 shows that the mirror doesn't have these packages, you don't have much of a choice
[20:56] <Mamarok> daimonie_: kubuntu alt disc default? what do you mean? wich version of Kubuntu is it?
[20:56] <Kristinn> Ah, I'll just cancel installing kubuntu for now, maybe have another shoot later :)
[20:56] <Mamarok> Kristinn: sometimes just an update can help
[20:56] <daimonie_> Mamarok: 9.04
[20:57] <Mamarok> daimonie_: ok
[20:57] <Kristinn> Well, I'm off, thanks a lot for the help :)
[20:57] <kaddi> daimonie_: http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-vista/Startup-Repair-frequently-asked-questions that's the repair cd for vista, I was talking about earlier
[20:57] <Mamarok> daimonie_: did you parition and install by hand or automatically?
[20:58] <Mamarok> kaddi: thx :)
[20:58] <daimonie_> Mamarok: I did the partitioning manually
[20:59] <daimonie_> "If your computer manufacturer blabla preinstall "
[20:59] <daimonie_> Hm
[20:59] <daimonie_> HP elitebook, it has some recovery stuff installed somewhere
[20:59] <daimonie_> It might just have them XD
[21:00] <daimonie_> Lets check that in a minute
[21:00] <daimonie_> Else iĺl just try and find my Vista disc
[21:00] <daimonie_> Now, i got another question
[21:00] <daimonie_> I can seem to get my wireless working
[21:00] <daimonie_> Windows wlan properties tells me that its WPA2-Personal with EAP and a password
[21:00] <daimonie_> i downloaded knetworkmanager but it isn really connecting
[21:01] <daimonie_> Which is kinda annoying, because my room is on another floor and there is no LAN cable there
[21:02] <daimonie_> Mamarok: Have you got any idea to fix that
[21:02] <kaddi> daimonie_: that was the wrong link.  http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/windows-vista/how-to-make-a-windows-vista-repair-disk-if-you-dont-have-one/
[21:04] <daimonie_> Mamarok: Mmk, thanks for that one. And about the wlan troubles?
[21:07] <kaddi> daimonie_: if you ask me, try replacing networkmanager with wicd (another connection manager). It's been working much better for me. But maybe someone else has a better idea. (wicd will remove networkmanager, so if this does not run through smoothly, you might be left without a networkmanager)
[21:12] <AlexZion> hi everyone ...., I was trying the beta version of Karmic , and I have the same old problem with the wireless connection ....
[21:12] <krazed> Do you have the same problem on 9.04?
[21:12] <AlexZion> I use a laptop with an Intel 3945 on it ,itshould be standard ,so I cannot understand why it doesn't works ...
[21:13] <AlexZion> yes I had with the network applet , so now I'm using the old Knetworkmanager
[21:16] <AlexZion> krazed: I was trying to setup the new network utility , but I saw that even the ethernet address was missing  ...
[21:17] <AlexZion> and I I had the same ugly beavhiour on theold version ...
[21:56] <Mannequin> hi. It often happens to me that in some places where I can easily connect to a Wi-Fi network using Windows, I can't get to the same network using Kubuntu
[21:56] <egenature> hi evryone
[21:56] <Mannequin> and I'm talking about common WEP wi-fi networks, nothing fancy
[21:58] <jhutchins> Mannequin: wifi troubleshooting is rather difficult, especially since all we know about these hotspots is that you can connect with windows.
[21:59] <Mannequin> jhutchins: thanks. Yes, I understand. What really disconcerts me is that the KNetworkManager doesn't give any kind of feedback on what's going on on the background...
[22:00] <Mannequin> I wonder if other methods/commands (like using iwconfig) are still valid to connect to wi-fi networks
[22:00] <jhutchins> Mannequin: Very few tools do, on either OS.
[22:00] <Mannequin> (on Kubuntu 9.04)
[22:00] <jhutchins> Mannequin: Yes, they are.
[22:00] <jhutchins> I got a connection fixed by simply issuing "iwconfig ath0 associate"
[22:01] <Mannequin> jhutchins: thanks. I will have to refresh my mind to see how that worked
[22:01] <Mannequin> thanks for the tip too
[22:02] <Mannequin> and will also have to cross finger so any change (if any) doesn't interfere permanently with the "standard" way (that is, KNetworkManager)
[22:03] <egenature> hello every one, am new to ubuntu
[22:09] <s1ntax> Where is a good place to find kde themes?
[22:10] <pradeep_> hmm www.gnome-look.org i think there is section for it
[22:10] <s1ntax> awesome ty
[22:10] <Mamarok> pradeep_: you certainly mean kde-look.org :)
[22:11] <pradeep_> thanks mamarok
[22:11] <s1ntax> Oh one other thing I just updated my mactel from 8.10 to 9.04 and I was wondering if there is a option to turn on the touchpad dual finger scroll somewhere?
[22:17] <theteju> Hey guys ,, I installed 8.10 just now and after installing 180 nvidia I got error at shutdown saying "application Jockey () crashed and caused the signal 11 (SIGSEGV)"
[22:17] <theteju> does anyone know about ? is it a bug?
[22:17] <theteju> is there any solution?
[22:18] <hagabaka> how can I register my host name on the DNS running on my router?
[22:27] <high-rez> Is it possible to do a live migration from ubuntu to kubuntu?  E.g. change the software sources and do a do-release-upgrade ?
[22:27] <high-rez> Os is there a better way to accomplish this goal? :)
[22:27] <Daimonie> Hai
[22:27] <Daimonie> I return
[22:28] <Daimonie> I fail once more, i accidently removed network-manager. However, i can't reinstall it (i 'm using my kubuntu cdrom as package provider)
[22:28] <Daimonie> it tells me: Depends libdbus-1-qt3-0 but is not installable
[22:28] <Daimonie> So i'm wondering how i'm going to fix this without reinstalling it all
[22:28] <Daimonie> Has anybody got a clue?
[22:30] <Daimonie> Mamarok: Are you still there ? :#
[22:35] <dweomergod> hello
[22:38] <Daimonie> Hai dweomergod
[23:52] <ubox> does anyone know why firefox might no longer know what programs open what files? i have to browse to the executable now
[23:53] <rafytafy> ubox: i have same problem heh
[23:53] <ubox> lol must ahev been a recent update of something or another
[23:54] <ubox> i can set it to automaticaly use a program but i want to choose open or save without the hassle


[08:54] <zequence_> cjwatson: I've been trying to get upload rights for those myself, in which case I would do that promptly. There's no panic yet, as we have barely summed up our feature specs.
[08:55] <zequence_> cjwatson: Any chance we could get some help on getting that new ISO built? I would change the seeds, but don't want to mess things up.
[17:29] <infinity> cjwatson: Does LP: #1334616 need fixing in trusty too, or are none of our trusty images affected?
[18:07] <cjwatson> infinity: We don't build any trusty images using ubuntu-defaults-image, so I decided I didn't care all that much
[18:13] <infinity> cjwatson: Fair enough.  A bit of a trap if someone tries to use livecd-rootfs/trusty to do that, but I guess not a big deal for official images.
[18:13] <infinity> (And I'm unconvinced anyone successfully uses it outside the DC)
[18:14] <infinity> Well, anyone other than you and I.
[21:24] <cjwatson> infinity: Lots of livefs build failures in various places complaining about uninstallable kernels.  Are overrides wrong or something?
[21:24] <cjwatson> (I haven't looked in detail ...)
[21:24] <cjwatson> zequence: Yep, I'll have a go at it in the coming week


[15:27] <Logiar> anyone else got trouble with ppa.launchpadcontent.net right now?
[15:28] <Logiar> of the 503  No server is available to handle this request. type?
[15:34] <Logiar> Ah, that answers that question I guess.
[15:38] <derek-shnosh> Is this an appropriate channel to ask about a couple PPAs giving 503 errors? Names: mozillateam & appimagelauncher-team
[15:39] <cjwatson> it's in the topic
[15:39] <cjwatson> "Maintenance of PS5 nodes - PPA hosting service down"
[15:40] <derek-shnosh> Ahh, cjwatson, didn't get that far.
[15:40] <derek-shnosh> Thank you.
[15:44] <chris_> Hello. Is there an ETA for when PPA will be back online?
[15:46] <pelpsi> Thank you cjwatson :)
[15:46] <pelpsi> Regarding the ETA: 30min, hopefully.
[15:46] <chris_> Thank you.
[15:46] <pelpsi> You're welcome!
[15:55] <pboos> anyone already looking into why http://ppa.launchpad.net is down? Returns a 503. Same for https://ppa.launchpadcontent.net/ :)
[15:56] <pelpsi> Hey pboos! Sure, It's in the topic: "Maintenance of PS5 nodes - PPA hosting service down"
[15:56] <pboos> pelpsi sorry, didn't read the whole topic 🤦♂. Thank you very much. Have a wonderful day!
[15:57] <pboos> Might have been nice to have that on the twitter status as well :) .
[16:02] <pelpsi> pboos you're very welcome! We are updating the status on Twitter as well <3
[16:03] <Guest45> ppa repositories down?
[16:04] <Guest36> im sorry i am a complete noob. could you tell me if  https://ppa.launchpadcontent.net is down at the moment? we are unable to download a number of packages i.e W: Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/git-core/ppa/ubuntu/dists/jammy/InRelease  503  Service Unavailable
[16:05] <Guest5467677kkk> Hi, is launchpad down? I am unable to download any PPA, such as graphics-drivers for ubuntu
[16:06] <pboos> From topic: Maintenance of PS5 nodes - PPA hosting service down
[16:06] <Guest45> ETA?
[16:06] <Guest5467677kkk> Thank you pboos, how long will it be down approximately?
[16:07] <pelpsi> Hopefully 30 mins but we don't have a precise ETA for that, sorry
[16:07] <Guest45> ok, thanks
[16:07] <Guest5467677kkk> Thanks
[16:07] <pelpsi> You're welcome
[16:20] <Guest70> just curious, how long is the downtime expected to be?
[16:20] <pelpsi> Hopefully 30 mins but it could change, sorry for that
[16:21] <Guest70> ah all good! just wanted to set some expectations for my team lol
[16:21] <Guest70> thanks!!
[16:21] <pelpsi> no problem, you're very welcome!
[16:36] <BODpc> I tried to follow the launchpad status account on ubuntu.social but then saw that ubuntu.social is shutting down. Is/Will the status account be recreated somewhere else?
[16:46] <jugmac00> BODpc: We are aware of that issue. Our community team is on it. AFAIK we will either move, which should be transparent for you as a follower, or maybe there is a way to keep the instance running.
[17:16] <BODpc> cool, thanks! currently follows to that account dont seem to be working (wonder if following got disabled by the instance admin?) but i'll keep an eye out, thanks :)
[17:37] <Guest70> pelpsi any closer to getting it back up?
[17:40] <pelpsi> Hey, Guest70! Unfortunately nope, we are trying to fix various issues due the migration :/
[17:41] <pelpsi> sorry, *due the maintenance
[17:45] <Guest70> gotcha
[17:45] <Guest70> thanks!
[17:52] <eski> hi, is there an ETA on when the maintenance will be completed?
[17:53] <pelpsi> Unfortunately nope
[17:53] <eski> understood
[18:36] <sidh> Greetings, do we have any ETA for PPA hosting ?
[18:43] <Logiar> They didn't 40 minutes ago.
[18:46] <pelpsi> Unfortunately still no ETA, sorry.
[19:23] <pelpsi> PPA hosting service is back!
[19:23] <jka^> thank you, pelpsi!
[19:27] <pelpsi> You're welcome!
[19:37] <elam> Thanks!
[20:07] <sidh> thx pelpsi


[14:30] <dgroos> alkisg: sch-scripts.log question--you available?
[14:31] <alkisg> dgroos: sure
[14:31] <dgroos> I see: Not a valid chroot: /opt/ltsp/i386 in the log, why might that be?
[14:31] <dgroos> is it an issue?
[14:33] <alkisg> dgroos: maybe you tried some of the "enter chroot" menus while you already had such a terminal open
[14:33] <alkisg> You can't open two of them, because of /proc bind-mounting etc
[14:33] <dgroos> OK, I think I remember doing that once a couple of weeks ago.
[14:34] <dgroos> so that entry is recording that event?
[14:38] <alkisg> Yup
[14:38] <alkisg> Not really significant...
[14:38] <dgroos> great, then no prob. thanks :)
[14:40] <dgroos> I just removed up to sch-daemon.log.2194!
[14:41] <dgroos> and epoptes.log.1169
[14:42] <alkisg> We removed much of the logging, it should be smaller from now on... :)
[14:42] <dgroos> 'k


[00:28] <J-_> How can I change my server password?
[00:29] <hads> passwd
[00:30] <J-_> !passwd
[00:56] <J_5> J-_: for your user name? used passwd
[00:56] <J_5> use*
[02:30] <warchief_ryan> Does anyone know how I can have my iptables rules added at boot?
[02:34] <Ontolog> Are there command-line utilities that do the same thing as the Network Configuration GUI?
[02:34] <Ontolog> In particular, define and apply different Profiles?
[02:36] <warchief_ryan> ifconfig, depending on what your wanting to do I think.
[02:40] <Ontolog> ifconfig is very low level
[02:41] <Ontolog> i'm talking about the higher-level 'Profiles' that the GUI supports
[02:41] <ScottK> warchief_ryan: If you configure ufw, it will run at boot.
[02:41] <warchief_ryan> I have, but I want to use just iptables
[03:22] <kgoetz> does hardy still have /etc/rc.local? if so you could put a iptables-restore in there
[03:24] <warchief_ryan> why would I do that?
[03:25] <warchief_ryan> I want my rules added, wont that just restore to default?
[03:26] <kgoetz> not if you restore from a dump you made.
[03:28] <warchief_ryan> ok, how?
[03:30] <kgoetz> iptables-save and iptables-restore are both <40 line man pages. its not very complex.
[03:34] <warchief_ryan> complex maybe not, but the man pages don't really explain throughly enough, mainly about the process
[03:35] <warchief_ryan> like if its dumping it to somewhere or if ive got to state where to dump
[03:36] <kgoetz> afaik its as hard as iptables-save > /root/dump && echo "iptables-restore < /root/dump " > /etc/rc.local # again, assuming that rc.local exists andd is used
[03:39] <warchief_ryan> k thanks, ill try
[04:18] <khaotik> anyone have time to help a complete noob?
[04:20] <lrojas> hi all
[04:20] <J_5> khaotik: we were all noob's at once, just ask you question :)
[04:22] <khaotik> well i would like to attempt to set up one of my machines to run ubuntu server. I have never dealt with any server OS before. ive been using ubuntu desktop for over 1 year.
[04:22] <lrojas> i tried installing ubuntu JeOS server on VMWare fusion, but i am not sure if i am suposed to use it only to prepare an appliance or can i use to develop my web app in it... ( care to clarify that? ) but my main question is... Do man comes with JeOS? cause when i try to man something i get command not found
[04:23] <khaotik> i have an old laptop i would like to use. is there any limitations or specifications of hardware i should use or stay away from?
[04:25] <lrojas> did i get disconected?
[04:27] <lrojas> :/
[04:27] <ScottK> No.
[04:27] <lrojas> ok
[04:27] <lrojas> :)
[04:28] <ScottK> For a test server most any hardware will do.
[04:28] <ScottK> Actually for most server applications hardware is less critical than desktop since you aren't running X and a bunch of heavy apps.
[04:30] <lrojas> are you answering me? i am asuming you are answering khaotik
[04:32] <hads> lrojas: sudo aptitude install man
[04:33] <khaotik> my bad i had to take the dog for a walk
[04:33] <lrojas> hads, thanks
[04:34] <hads> JeOS is exactly the same, just a minimal install
[04:34] <lrojas> does anybody knows if i intend to run the ubuntu server under a VM, installing from the JeOS iso is better than from the regular server ISO?
[04:35] <khaotik> the reason i ask i have an old HP laptop that has 512 MB RAM 40 GB hardrive and pentium 4 1600 Mhz. would that be something sufficient to run on?
[04:36] <jhigueros>  good night may be you can helpme somebody knows where is magicfab i am loking for him
[04:39] <lrojas> hads, thanks again didnt realize that you had answered me before i asked my question
[04:44] <khaotik> well i tried installing ubuntu server on it. everything seem to load fine. then when i tried to install a GUI for it it crashed
[04:49] <hads> lrojas: No problem
[05:16] <lrojas> anybody can give me a sugestion, regarding runing ubuntu server on a Virtual Machine ( VMWare ), should i install it as JeOS Server? or is that only used to make appliances and for more general purposes the standard server is ok?
[05:17] <hads> As I mentioned it's the same thing, JeOS is just a minimal install.
[05:31] <chmac> My apache child processes are using around 20-30 MiB of physical memory after serving a few requests. Does that seem normal?
[05:32] <chmac> When the child is freshly created it uses < 1 MiB
[05:41] <li> jjkkll
[07:34] <skep> chmac_away: this can be normal..do you run e.g. php app's?
[07:35] <chmac_away> skep: Yeah, running large bloated php apps, phpnuke being the worse, and WordPress
[07:39] <skep> i would say its normal then..the default limit is 64MiB afaik..
[07:39] <skep> for child mem use
[07:43] <chmac_away> skep: The MaxClients at 150 was killing my server
[07:43] <chmac_away> I've reduced it to 18 now though, so hopefully it'll behave from now on
[07:44] <Ian_Corne> hehe
[07:45] <skep> chmac_away: you could also reduce the ServerLimit to the same number..
[07:46] <chmac_away> skep: I don't have a ServerLimit in my apache2.conf...
[07:48] <chmac> skep: Ok, I see how it works. I'll keep that in mind if we have problems down the line. Thanks.
[11:06] <uvirtbot`> New bug: #267696 in mysql-dfsg-5.0 (main) "mysqldump fails silently against mysql 4.0 server" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/267696
[11:15] <hsn_> i need libcxa.so.3 where can i get it?
[11:36] <uvirtbot`> New bug: #267701 in php5 (main) "php5 session files purge cron job not working outside /var/lib/php5" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/267701
[12:26] <skep> hsn_: libcxa.* should be in intel compiler packages..are you sure that this file isn't already on your filesystem? perhaps search via find..
[12:28] <skep> hsn_: so perhaps you just need the dev package for your compiler..
[13:17] <lrojas> hi all
[13:17] <lrojas> anybody aake?
[13:19] <lrojas> awake... awake... awake...
[13:20]  * lrojas ponders at the cavernous cacophony in here
[13:31] <soren> The keyword is patience.
[13:32] <soren> Also, most people don't bother answering "anybody awake" sort of questions. There's 107 people in here. The noise of everyone responding to those kinds of questions would be horrible. Just ask your question.
[13:51] <lrojas> i just installed ubuntu server, and i was following the documentation to install lighttpd + ruby + rails, everything installed ok but now when i try to access the site, it says conection refused... what am i doing wrong?
[13:58] <skep> lighthttp running?
[13:59] <lrojas> well, i am following this instructions : https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RubyOnRails#Lighttpd%20Installation, i executed the command for running the lighttpd service but when i check if it's up, is not
[13:59]  * zul really really hates libtool
[14:08] <soren> lrojas: Try "sudo /etc/init.d/lighttpd stop ; sudo /etc/init.d/lighttpd start"
[14:08] <soren> lrojas: Do you have another webserver running on the machine, perhaps?
[14:11] <lrojas> soren, not that i know of, is a fresh install of ubuntu...
[14:12] <lrojas> soren, i dont want to use pastebin for 6 lines, can i paste them here?
[14:14] <soren> No.
[14:14] <soren> -> pastebin.
[14:16] <lrojas> http://pastebin.com/d5fbcfee3
[14:20] <skep> looks good..and localhost in your webbrowser gives you connection refused?
[14:22] <lrojas> if it is any help, here is my /etc/lighttpd/lighttpd.conf http://pastebin.com/d109af8e3
[14:25] <skep> whats the output of "sudo netstat -ap | grep www" after starting lighthttpd?
[14:26] <soren> And just as interesting:
[14:26] <soren> sudo netstat -apn | grep lighttpd
[14:27] <skep> soren: but doesn't the n parameter converts www/lighthttpd into 80?
[14:27] <skep> ah no..mixed something up..its ok
[14:27] <lrojas> skep yes
[14:28] <lrojas> skep i get conection refused
[14:28] <soren> -n turns 'www' into 80. Nothing else.
[14:28] <\sh> guys...does anyone run a hp dl3x5 with a p400i for system hds and a p800 for MSA storage? looks like that even if the bios is saying: p400i is the default boot controller, our grub and kernel doesn't want to boot
[14:28] <soren> Well, it skips any sort of name/service resolution
[14:28] <soren> \sh: What happens?
[14:29] <\sh> soren: well, it should boot...but it doesn't :)
[14:29] <\sh> no errors during installation (server)
[14:29] <lrojas> sudo netstat -ap | grep www returns nothing
[14:30] <soren> lrojas: What about "sudo netstat -apn | grep lighttpd" ?
[14:30] <lrojas> nothing either
[14:30] <soren> ps aux | grep light
[14:31] <soren> \sh: I hope you're typing more info and not just waiting for an answer..
[14:31] <lrojas> it only returns the grep itself
[14:32] <skep> lrojas: you could also check out the logs in /var/logs for something lighthttpd related..maybe in messages or the lighthttp logs itself (if there are any)
[14:33] <\sh> soren: I'm running between my desktop and my server ;)
[14:34] <\sh> strange..after installation the server doesn't boot up as expected...now I "reinstalled" grub from the "rescue system"...and now he finds the devices correctly, but totally wrong from grubs menu.lst now (which was during installation (hd1) and now it's (hd0))..no cold boot done
[14:34] <soren> Just change the boot entry in grub?
[14:38] <lrojas> how do i cd into /var/log/lighttpd ? i get permission denied, if i do sudo cd /var... i get cd commnad not found
[14:39] <\sh> soren: i did...but something goes wrong during installation via d-i and the final system...I'll have another machine with the same setup tomorrow...so I can check a bit more
[14:40] <\sh> soren: btw...do you have any clue how udev setups the devicenames for NICs? It looks a bit strange when the onboard and the other 4Gi NICs are somehow randomly counted...
[14:42] <soren> \sh: It's random.
[14:44] <soren> Upon discovering the pci devices, the modules are loaded. The modules's initialisation phases might overlap, and then you get a somewhat odd ordering of the interfaces.
[14:44] <soren> You can fix it up in /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules
[14:45] <soren> You can even assign arbitrary names to nics in there. (i.e. you can name them according to function "wan", "dmz", "office", "prod", "test", etc.)
[14:47] <\sh> soren: yes..I know, I just thought that it happens via a non-random system e.g. pci-id dependent
[14:58] <_ruben> ugh .. i really oughta setup a netboot environment .. this vritual media over lan is performing like shit :/
[15:03] <_ruben> now it seems to stall even earlier .. sigh
[15:12] <uvirtbot`> New bug: #267671 in samba (main) "bug of samba" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/267671
[15:17] <skep> lrojas: "sudo tail -f /var/log/messages" and/or "sudo tail -f /var/log/lighthttp...." and with these commands running try to (re)start lighthttpd and check if something is added to the logs
[15:37] <soren> _ruben: "virtual media over lan"?
[15:37] <soren> _ruben: Well, really "vritual", but I presumed that was a mistake :)
[15:38] <_ruben> soren: its a feature of this machine, as part of the remote kvm card in it .. it allows to mount isos over the network to be used as a virtual cdrom drive
[15:38] <soren> Oh.
[15:39] <_ruben> moved the iso from fileserver to my local system .. atleast feels faster .. perhaps im able to actually finish the install now :)
[15:44] <_ruben> bah .. cheered too early .. stalled on "Retrieving lvm2-udeb"
[16:13] <AnRkey> My dovecot-imapd is showing this error in the /var/log/mail.log file >> Sep  8 17:09:13 homeserver dovecot: imap-login: Aborted login (0 authentication attempts): rip=<IP_ADDRESS>, lip=<IP_ADDRESS>
[16:13] <AnRkey> i cant connect to the imapd from evolution or thunderbird
[16:14] <AnRkey> any suggestions?
[16:14] <zul> are you using the right password?
[16:19] <AnRkey> haha
[16:19] <AnRkey> i think i am beyond that yes :D
[16:19] <AnRkey> found the prob
[16:19] <AnRkey> i had sasl auth only on
[16:20] <AnRkey> it's always something simple that messes everything up :D
[16:20] <AnRkey> thanks anyway
[16:51] <uvirtbot`> New bug: #267802 in nagios2 (universe) "Home Folder for Nagios is wiped on Reboot" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/267802
[17:11] <jdstrand> sommer: hi! do you have time for some quick comments regarding the ufw documentation?
[17:34] <jdstrand> lamont: hi! I have on my todo list to do the LP stuff for the bind9 SRU. I don't (yet) see that it is uploaded. can you ping me when you upload and I'll do the LP stuff?
[17:37] <sommer> jdstrand: can I ping you in about 2 hours?
[17:38] <jdstrand> sommer: sure. ping me when ready (I may be out, but will certainly be available around that time)
[17:41] <lamont> jdstrand: git clone git://git.debian.org/~lamont/bind9.git
[17:41] <lamont> :-)
[17:41] <lamont> or was I packaging it?
[17:41] <jdstrand> lamont: oh, I thought you said you'd upload
[17:41] <jdstrand> (I thought that was where we left it)
[17:42] <lamont> right
[17:42] <lamont> sorry
[17:42] <jdstrand> np at all
[17:42] <lamont> I'll get to that tonight,  I expect
[17:42] <jdstrand> cool-- feel free to ping me when uploaded
[18:27] <uvirtbot`> New bug: #263840 in samba (main) "smbpasswd crashed with SIGSEGV in dump_core()" [Medium,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/263840
[18:32] <_ruben> bah .. most neboot tuts are geared towards -desktop, not -server :/
[18:33] <_ruben> s/neboot/netboot/
[20:05] <Goosemoose> anyone know what to set in the preseed file to get the new computers to authenticate users against the domain?
[20:06] <mathiaz> Goosemoose: have you looked into using the late_command option ?
[20:06] <Goosemoose> yeah i just cant seem to get likewise to work right
[20:07] <mathiaz> Goosemoose: AFAIR the likewise-open package doesn't support preseeding the domain part
[20:07] <Goosemoose> that would be bad, i dont want to manually go join 250 machines to the domain
[20:07] <mathiaz> Goosemoose: IIRC you can pass the administrator password on the domain-join command line
[20:07] <Goosemoose> hmm
[20:08] <mathiaz> Goosemoose: so you can use the late_command option to perform the domain-join and adding likewise-open to the list of packages to be installed
[20:08] <Goosemoose> ok ill have to figure out the domain-join part, i must have something wrong with it
[20:08] <mathiaz> Goosemoose: be aware that the preseed will go uncrypted on the network
[20:09] <Goosemoose> i used MD5 for the admin user on the machine, I'm guessing domain-join doesn't support that?
[20:09] <mathiaz> Goosemoose: another solution is to setup ssh public keys on installs and then ssh into the box to do the domain-join
[20:10] <Goosemoose> i'd rather avoid that if i can
[20:11] <mathiaz> Goosemoose: right - it seems the first you'd have to take is to figure the domain-join command line
[20:11] <Goosemoose> ok
[20:11] <Goosemoose> im going to look on the forums some more
[20:12] <mathiaz> Goosemoose: once you've got the command line, you can choose where you want to automate it : late_command in preseed (less secure depending on your installation environment) or via ssh
[20:12] <Goosemoose> ok
[20:25] <Goosemoose> hmm, i just installed likewise-open on a machine via sudo apt-get install likewise-open, but the domain-join command does not exist
[20:25] <Goosemoose> is there another dependency?
[20:25] <Goosemoose> nvm its domainjoin-cli
[20:26] <sommer> jdstrand: pinger
[20:27] <jdstrand> sommer: hey
[20:27] <sommer> ufw has some new options?
[20:27] <jdstrand> sommer: I just have a few really small things
[20:27] <jdstrand> sommer: 1) ufw has 'status' and 'status verbose'
[20:28] <sommer> jdstrand: ah, I'll note that
[20:28] <jdstrand> sommer: 2) until case-insensitive profile names are in place, when referencing applications profiles, we should use a capitalized first letter
[20:28] <jdstrand> sommer: eg 'Samba' or 'Apache'
[20:29] <sommer> okay, are the --update-new options the same?... I thought there were some changes, at least from the one email thread
[20:30] <jdstrand> sommer: let's get back to that in just a sec
[20:30] <sommer> heh, no problem
[20:31] <jdstrand> sommer: you say: "Similar to allowing traffic to a port, enabling an application profile is accomplished by entering"
[20:32] <zul> mathiaz: do you have an opinnon on bug #267701
[20:32] <uvirtbot`> Launchpad bug 267701 in php5 "php5 session files purge cron job not working outside /var/lib/php5" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/267701
[20:32] <jdstrand> sommer: but there really isn't a concept of 'enabling an application profile"
[20:32] <jdstrand> sommer: it's really, just using it, like you might use a protocol name in /etc/services
[20:33] <jdstrand> sommer: you use 'enabled' in a few places in there, so the workding may need to change somewhat
[20:33] <jdstrand> sommer: does that make sense?
[20:33] <sommer> jdstrand: I think so
[20:33] <jdstrand> sommer: ok good-- eg "To view details about which ports, protocols, etc are enabled for an application, enter:"
[20:33] <mathiaz> zul: we should find out why php is creating session in /tmp/
[20:34] <jdstrand> sommer: here, just do s/enabled/defined/
[20:34] <mathiaz> zul: or which module is causing that - and fix it there
[20:34] <zul> mathiaz: cool..
[20:34] <jdstrand> sommer: now to your previous question
[20:35] <jdstrand> sommer: 'ufw app update <foo>' only does something if you used the profile 'foo' in your rulesets
[20:35] <jdstrand> sommer: otherwise it's a no-op
[20:36] <sommer> jdstrand: gotcha
[20:36] <jdstrand> sommer: 'ufw app update --add-new <foo>' will do as above, but will also add a rule to your existing rules if the default application policy is changed away from 'skip'
[20:36] <jdstrand> sommer: no packages do that currently
[20:37] <jdstrand> sommer: unless you are going to talk about how an administrator can use applications profiles, you might want to just skip mentioning '--add-new'
[20:37] <jdstrand> sommer: what do you think?
[20:38] <sommer> jdstrand: I think that'd be simpler
[20:38] <jdstrand> (it is in the man page)
[20:38] <jdstrand> sommer: I agree
[20:38] <jdstrand> sommer: it was always intended for maintainer scripts, and possibly for advanced sysadmins
[20:38] <sommer> jdstrand: cool, I'll rework that bit
[20:39] <jdstrand> sommer: that's all I have. thanks *soo* much for the docs :)
[20:39] <sommer> jdstrand: np, thank you
[21:11] <sommer> jdstrand: ufw section updated :-)
[21:12] <sommer> jdstrand: it may be tomorrow before the changes appear on the website though
[21:12] <jdstrand> \o/
[21:12] <jdstrand> sommer: ok, I'll check then
[21:12] <jdstrand> sommer: thanks again
[21:13] <sommer> welcome :)
[21:28] <zeth> hello
[21:28] <zeth> I am doing
[21:28] <zeth> I am trying to install something
[21:28] <zeth> and apt-get blocks me
[21:28] <zeth> The following packages have unmet dependencies. libdb4.6-dev: Conflicts: libdb4.3-dev but 4.3.29-11ubuntu1 is to be installed
[21:28] <zeth> How do I have both?
[21:30] <arakthor> I have no idea if this is sane, or works, but have you tried installing that dependency by itself
[21:30] <zeth> arakthor: you mean from source?
[21:30] <zeth> or just apt-get install libdb4.3-dev ?
[21:31] <zeth> does not seem to make much difference installing it alone
[21:31] <arakthor> apt-get install libdb4.3-dev is what I meant
[21:32] <arakthor> err
[21:32] <arakthor> sorry
[21:32] <arakthor> 4.6
[21:32] <zeth> libdb4.3-dev is already the newest version.
[21:32] <zeth> if I do that
[21:32] <zeth> 4.6
[21:32] <zeth> then I get
[21:32] <zeth> The following packages will be REMOVED apache-dev libdb4.3-dev
[21:32] <zeth> removing apache-dev might be very bad
[21:32] <arakthor> ah
[21:34] <guntbert> zeth: I've  seen such behaviour after enabling "proposed"
[21:36] <zeth> oh right
[21:36] <zeth> yes
[21:36] <zeth> that sounds good
[21:36] <zeth> know how I can fix it?
[21:36] <zeth> Look through my sources.list?
[21:38] <guntbert> I'm on ubuntu desktop, but on server, yes, edit sources.list seems sensible
[21:39] <zeth> no proposed there
[22:22] <dendrobates> ScottK: bug #267901
[22:22] <uvirtbot`> Launchpad bug 267901 in smart "smart does not correctly verify packages coming from archives." [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/267901
[22:23] <dendrobates> ScottK: I uploaded a fix.