[07:30] <anoc> i have private virtual server that have basc script icon on desktop i need to run often. It uses sudo command and asks pw each time. How can i make it so that wont ask password?
[07:30] <Daniel_WMDE_> hi all. enigmail for thunderbird seems to remember my passphrase indefinitly. i don't want that. it tells me that i'm using gnupg-agent or some such, and I have to configure passphrase retention there.
[07:30] <Daniel_WMDE_> i don't have gnupg-agent installed though
[07:31] <Daniel_WMDE_> what does ubuntu use for managing gnupg passphrase access?
[07:31] <Daniel_WMDE_> where to i configure the timeout?
[07:31] <Ben64> anoc: why do you run gui on a vps? what does the script do?
[07:31] <Jordan_U> punkmexic: Edit GRUB_DEFAULT in /etc/default/grub as explained here: http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html#Simple-configuration then run "sudo update-grub".
[07:31] <whumphrey_> Anyone available to help a newer user to linux? Read the forums and how to's for installing a wireless adapter and have reached a point where I need help
[07:31] <bobo37773> linuxlover: Take care.
[07:32] <Daniel_WMDE_> ...gpgsm isn't installed either
[07:32] <hardwired> Daniel_WMDE_: probably v in gpg-agent.conf
[07:32] <anoc> the script updates clock. my old vmware lags the time and cannot be upgraded. so clicking the update time upc script is easy fix.
[07:32] <Daniel_WMDE_> hardwired: but gnupg-agent isn't installed...
[07:32] <bobo37773> linuxlover: I do not use plymouth sorry
[07:32] <hardwired> hardwired: Daniel_WMDE_ , sorry, i meant: probably default-cache-ttl in gpg-agent.conf
[07:32] <Daniel_WMDE_> will have a look anyway
[07:32] <hardwired> Daniel_WMDE_: maybe it comes bundled with gpg
[07:33] <hardwired> Daniel_WMDE_: look for .gnupg in your homedir
[07:33] <Daniel_WMDE_> hardwired: i don't see that file in /etc
[07:33] <Daniel_WMDE_> hardwired: find /etc -name gpg-agent.conf  <-- nothing
[07:33] <punkmexic> Jordan_U, i use grub 2 maybe
[07:33] <hardwired> Daniel_WMDE_: do that find in your homedir again?
[07:33] <Jordan_U> punkmexic: Yes, that is the default for Ubuntu and I linked to grub2 documentation.
[07:34] <theixle> I am, all of a sudden, not able to establish a good connection with telnet to a host I've been able to connect to fine for months. It says connected but "freezes" afterwards. Can anyone help me troubleshoot?
[07:34] <Daniel_WMDE_> hardwired: .gnupg/gpg.conf exists. use-agent is commented out.
[07:34] <Ben64> anoc: you could set root's crontab to update the time
[07:34] <punkmexic> http://pastebin.com/aVc4ZHRA
[07:34] <hardwired> Daniel_WMDE_: hold on, I'll check my stuff
[07:34] <anoc> Ben64: did that but wont work somehow. tried many guides from various forums.
[07:34] <punkmexic> thanks urfr332g0
[07:35] <Daniel_WMDE_> hardwired: when i try to use gpg on the command line, *noi* agent is used.
[07:35] <Daniel_WMDE_> this is strange
[07:35] <urfr332g0> punkmexic, you might look at Jordan_U link as well.
[07:35] <Daniel_WMDE_> enigmail seems to interact with a passphrase agent, but gpg on the command line doesn't
[07:35] <Daniel_WMDE_> wtf?
[07:35] <SubjectOne> heyah Daniel_WMDE_, i have sinds today the same problem
[07:35] <hardwired> Daniel_WMDE_: it could be enigmail caches your pw without gpg agent, why not?
[07:36] <theixle> Btw, this is in Ubuntu 10.04.3 L
[07:36] <Daniel_WMDE_> SubjectOne: i have first noticved yesterday. somethign is strange...
[07:36] <SubjectOne> gpg no longer want to work via cli
[07:36] <Daniel_WMDE_> hardwired: because when i try to change enigmails setting, it explicitly tells me that it can't because i'm using an agent and i need to go there to change the sessing.
[07:36] <anoc> can't i just somehow save the sudo pass into this script line??: sudo ntpdate time1.mikes.fi
[07:36] <Daniel_WMDE_> hardwired: now, that *could* be an enigmail bug. but...
[07:36] <punkmexic> i understand english but not grub language :p
[07:36] <punkmexic> can someone help me edit my grub? http://pastebin.com/aVc4ZHRA
[07:36] <SubjectOne> does that means it has a homecall service ? build in ?
[07:37] <SubjectOne> i just got a verry creepy feeling about this
[07:37] <hardwired> Daniel_WMDE_: what does ps acx|grep agent  tell you? is the agent running?
[07:37] <Ben64> anoc: no, the best way is root's crontab like i said
[07:37] <Daniel_WMDE_> hardwired: ssh-agent is running, as expected. nothign else
[07:38] <Daniel_WMDE_> or do ssh and gnupg share an agent now?
[07:38] <Daniel_WMDE_> in theory, that sounds like a nice idea
[07:38] <Daniel_WMDE_> but.
[07:38] <Jordan_U> punkmexic: Change GRUB_DEFAULT=0 in /etc/default/grub to GRUB_DEFAULT="Windows 7 (loader) (on /dev/sda1)"    then run "sudo update-grub".
[07:38] <theixle> Also, if this is not the appropriate channel for networking related questions, please point me in the right direction.
[07:38] <bobo37773> Is ssh built into the kernel now?
[07:38] <Daniel_WMDE_> i don't want gpg top use an agent!
[07:38] <hardwired> Daniel_WMDE_: I'd get the agent running (it's handy if you use gnupg in more than one program). That my just solve your problem.
[07:38] <bobo37773> By default I mean.
[07:38] <zykotick9> anoc: there is some way to add commands to sudoers so passwords aren't required.  Sorry i don't know how off the top of my head.
[07:39] <fidel> ahoi
[07:39] <punkmexic> so i dont need to edit grub.cfg Jordan_U ???
[07:39] <Daniel_WMDE_> hardwired: i could get the agent up and set it to a very short timeout.... that would kind of solve my problem
[07:39] <Daniel_WMDE_> but...
[07:39] <hardwired> Daniel_WMDE_: oh sorry :-) didn't mean to suggest a "solution" you don't want.
[07:39] <Daniel_WMDE_> some recent upgrade to ubuntu causes enigmal to cache passphrases forever
[07:39] <Daniel_WMDE_> this is a BIG security problem!°
[07:39] <hardwired> Daniel_WMDE_: I trust the agent more than enigmail to keep my passphrase securely in memory...
[07:40] <bobo37773> anoc: echo password | sudo -S command
[07:40] <Jordan_U> punkmexic: You never edit /boot/grub/grub.cfg. The proper place for changing grub preferences like this is /etc/default/grub.
[07:40] <Daniel_WMDE_> hardwired: yea, perhaps. what scares me is that currently, it's in memory forever.
[07:40] <Daniel_WMDE_> it doesn't time out
[07:40] <Ben64> bobo37773: thats incredibly dangerous
[07:40] <Daniel_WMDE_> hardwired, SubjectOne: where should we report the issue? enigmail? ubuntu?
[07:40] <bobo37773> Ben64: Eh. I use it all the time. Why is it extremely dangerous?
[07:41] <Ben64> having your password saved in cleartext :|
[07:41] <Ben64> its like "here, please hack me!"
[07:41] <punkmexic> i have GRUB_DEFAULT=8 that i need to change it to GRUB_DEFAULT="Windows 7 (loader) (on /dev/sda1)"  ??¡¡
[07:41] <bobo37773> Ben64: I am the only one on my computer. Physical access == game over anyways. what's the difference?
[07:42] <Jordan_U> punkmexic: Correct.
[07:42] <hardwired> Daniel_WMDE_: no idea.
[07:42] <Ben64> bobo37773: its a very bad method, and physical access isn't the only way that would mess you up
[07:43] <bobo37773> Ben64: Could you elaborate a little? Like a scenario or something?
[07:43] <Ben64> just don't give bad advice like that to people here
[07:43] <anoc> Ben64: Thanks. Now i made a sudo crontab and put the script there. lets wait and see does it run. Do i need to restart/reload crontab somehow?
[07:44] <punkmexic> Jordan_U, how do i know if i should put  GRUB_DEFAULT=1 or  GRUB_DEFAULT=2 if i want to put ubuntu again as default?
[07:44] <Ben64> anoc: no, crontab goes all the time. what you should have in it though is "ntpdate <server>" don't run the script from cron
[07:44] <zykotick9> Ben64: not sure if it applies, but if you use ntpd you should not be using ntpdate
[07:44] <Jordan_U> punkmexic: Ubuntu will be the first menu entry, and since menu entries are counted from 0, that would mean that to restore Ubuntu as default you would put GRUB_DEFAULT=0
[07:45] <whumphrey_> Anyone willing to help me?
[07:45] <zamiel> bobo37773: if you want to leave files around with root passwords that unprivledged users can gain access to --> then gain root. its your adventure... just very unsafe...
[07:45] <Ben64> zykotick9: yeah i'm not sure how his setup is, but he had a script using ntpdate and apparently worked
[07:45] <punkmexic> ok ill reboot to see if it worked
[07:45] <canadacow> exit
[07:45] <bobo37773> Ben64: I do not think it is bad advice. I thought it was a simple answer to a simple question.
[07:45] <zykotick9> anoc: do you use ntpd?
[07:46] <anoc> my command currently is sudo ntpdate time1.mikes.fi and it has worked ok
[07:46] <Ben64> bobo37773: its like leaving the key to your car taped on the windshield
[07:47] <Xgates> can anyone tell me for LUKS where I can find the latest information on Ubuntu's site/wiki for setting up LUKS?
[07:47] <zykotick9> anoc: using ntpd is better then ntpdate, it will actually train your clock.  But, the two shouldn't be mixed.
[07:47] <whumphrey_> wireless adapter help anyone?
[07:47] <zamiel> Ben64: or your key under a cactus next to the door, when you live in alaska...
[07:47] <adarshaj_> What is the version of kernel that would be shipped with Ubuntu 12.04LTS ?
[07:48] <zamiel> whumphrey_: PM me ill help...
[07:48] <zykotick9> whumphrey_: details (such as what wireless adapter) would be helpful
[07:48] <Ben64> adarshaj_: wont know for sure until April 5th
[07:49] <adarshaj_> Ben64: Any guesses?
[07:49] <zykotick9> !info linux precise | adarshaj_ Ben64
[07:49] <anoc> Ben64: i dont think it will train my clock because the vmware machine is f*ckd up. It's made with different cpu than it its so the clock is not working.
[07:50] <Ben64> anoc: you should fix that
[07:50] <adarshaj_> zykotick9: cool :), thanks!
[07:52] <whumphrey_> zykotick9 / zamiel It's a netgear wna3100
[07:52] <anoc> Ben64: perhaps i should. just dont' have the skills to make it 100% working. im happy if i just get the clock not to be wrong multiple days
[07:52] <bobo37773> Ben64: My opinion is that the most dangerous thing in gnu linux is the default kernel configuration for most distros. That kind of sudo information could probably be harmful to a certain subset of users though so I will try to not reccomend it if that thing is discouraged here.
[07:53] <overclucker> anoc: a line like this in yoour sudoers could work:  %groupname ALL=(ALL:ALL) NOPASSWD: /path/to/command /path/to/another/command
[07:53] <bobo37773> anoc: Wait all of this is just to set your time on boot?
[07:53] <Ben64> see its such an easy thing to use cron for
[07:54] <zykotick9> bobo37773: for a VM...
[07:54] <overclucker> anoc: then as part of the group sudo command shouldwork without password.
[07:54] <bobo37773> zykotick9: A virtual machine?
[07:55] <zykotick9> bobo37773: yup
[07:55] <anoc> bobo: no, i dont boot my virtual machine almost ever. just put it sleep state / and then resume it at the next day (used for php/mysql work)
[07:55] <bobo37773> zykotick9: Ben64 Why not just use a networkmanager hook? Ubuntu still uses networkmanager right?
[07:55] <perfekt> noob question, what's the command for the chkdsk equivalent in ubuntu (working from livedisc 9.04)?
[07:55] <Ben64> perfekt: fsck
[07:55] <perfekt> thanks
[07:57] <zamiel> bobo37773: or wicd and uninstall all the avahi crap...
[07:57] <bobo37773> anoc: Oh man I totally missed the whole thing. Yeah listen to Ben64. You want cron all the way. Especially since you are freezing the state of the machine.
[07:58] <theixle> So, any networking help here? I posted question already but will repost if needed.
[07:58] <theixle> If this is the wrong channel please advise.
[07:59] <bobo37773> zamiel: networkmanager does not depend on avahi or vica versa.
[07:59] <zamiel> bobo37773: noted, but removing the autoprobe features of network manager and the "im over here" stuff from avahi is helpful if you want to lower your surface...
[08:00] <zamiel> bobo37773: specially if your running a server..
[08:00] <shaji> configuring dhcp for different subnets howto
[08:01] <bobo37773> zamiel: Yeah if I was running a server I doubt I would run anything other than a simple daemon. No wicd or networkmanager. I have had problems with wicd and networkmanager both in the past. I cannot even really reccomend one over the other anymore these days
[08:03] <shaji> configuring dhcp for different subnets howto
[08:03] <theixle> Am I doing something wrong to try and get help or is everyone just occupied?
[08:04] <bobo37773> theixle: What is your issue?
[08:04] <shaji> hello abhinav  configuring dhcp for different subnets howto
[08:04] <theixle> I am, all of a sudden, not able to establish a good connection with telnet to a host I've been able to connect to fine for months. It says connected but "freezes" afterwards. Can anyone help me troubleshoot?
[08:04] <Jak2000> happy valentine day!
[08:05] <urfr332g0> theixle, sometimes it takes a person who knows what you need to respond, kind of a slow time for the channel. :)
[08:05] <theixle> I didn't want to repost my question and be spammy.
[08:05] <bobo37773> theixle: Is the whole setup local? Or is the host remote?
[08:05] <theixle> The host is remote
[08:05] <theixle> It's a MUD
[08:05] <theixle> text based rpg etc
[08:06] <bobo37773> theixle: Well since you said it has been working for months the only two things I can think of is something changed on your end or on the other. Are you telneting to a hostname or to and ip address?
[08:06] <theixle> I have tried both bobo
[08:07] <antii> hey
[08:07] <bobo37773> theixle: Did you update anything related on your end?
[08:07] <Ranthor_Harwath> hello, I need an update in the distro. the evolution client has bugs
[08:07] <Ranthor_Harwath> whom should I report
[08:07] <theixle> I agree something has changed on my end, but as I use the machine almost exclusively just for telneting to this remote host, it's hard for me to imagine what I could've done.
[08:07] <theixle> I haven't changed anything other than allowing the package manager to install updates.
[08:08] <Walther> Uvuntu 11.10 alternate cd, doesn't detect my wireless card
[08:08] <antii> Im getting system messages that my disk "/" is full.. I ran the disk analyzer and it didnt show anything.. Happend to anyone before?
[08:08] <bobo37773> theixle: Look at your updates
[08:08] <anoc> overclucker: tried the sudoers but still asks password
[08:09] <sudoduck> antii: what's df say?
[08:09] <antii> /dev/sda1             141G  134G   50M 100% /
[08:09] <theixle> bobo37773: In package manager? Is there a history of the most recent updates?
[08:09] <zykotick9> whumphrey_: is that a USB or PCI card?
[08:10] <whumphrey_> wna3100 wireless adapter help anyone?
[08:10] <whumphrey_> usb
[08:10] <bobo37773> theixle: Do you have / do you use synaptic?
[08:10] <theixle> bobo37773: Ok I haven't done anything to the machine over the past few hours, but now the telnet connection seems to be working properly.
[08:10] <theixle> bobo37773: While I could just call it good, I'm worried about this problem reocurring and would like to see you could help me understand the cause.
[08:10] <Walther> Ubuntu alternative install cd does not detect my wireless card -> no networking -> does not install any wireless stuff
[08:11] <antii> sudoduck: I am using the most like.. 14GB at all
[08:11] <antii> in my /home folder
[08:11] <whumphrey_> zykotick9: usb
[08:11] <bobo37773> theixle: weird. Well you must have done something. Hmm look at dmesg. Anything interesting there
[08:11] <Walther> How can I configure tye wireless during the install on Alt CD?
[08:11] <kroonrs> hi. sometimes when I suspend and resume, my terminal program does not resume.
[08:11] <Ben64> antii: well something you have is taking a lot of space
[08:12] <theixle> bobo37773: unfortunately I don't know what I'm looking for :/
[08:12] <shaji> configuring dhcp for different subnets howto
[08:12] <antii> Ben64: it says my home folder is full.. but if i look in there i dont see any big files
[08:13] <zykotick9> whumphrey_: from my very quick search, looks like you might have to use the windows driver with ndiswrapper (again it was a QUICK search, it may not be accurate).  But I can't/won't personally help with windows stuff.  Good luck.
[08:13] <Ben64> antii: its not just your home folder, its the entire / partition
[08:13] <antii> Ben64: any way I can find the "file/s"?
[08:13] <anoc> i made sudoers line myname ALL = (ALL:ALL) NOPASSWD: /etc/default/ntpdate        and still asks for password
[08:13] <bobo37773> theixle: Does you connection go in and out? Is it a console based machine?
[08:13] <anoc> used the command sudo visudo
[08:14] <Ben64> antii: "cd /; du -h --max-depth 1"
[08:14] <kroonrs> antii: you can go to / on the command line, then try du -sb * |sort -n to find which directory/files are taking up more space (will need to be root, or use sudo)
[08:14] <theixle> bobo37773: It's running x (xfce), the connection is wired directly to the router and is stable
[08:14] <theixle> bobo37773: I've been ssh'd from win7 on the lan consistently all day
[08:15] <antii> kroonrs: it seems like proc is taking up all space :S
[08:15] <theixle> But, I meant the dsl link is stable
[08:15] <kroonrs> antii: go into the proc folder and repeat
[08:15] <shaji> configuring dhcp for different subnets howto can you help
[08:15] <Walther> How do I configure wireless during alternate installation?
[08:15] <antii> kroonrs:<PHONE_NUMBER>66368	kcore
[08:15] <antii> :S
[08:16] <bobo37773> theixle: Just a guess: Maybe you have a backround process running since you last updated that is causing your connection on telnet to be less stable then it used to be. As far dmesg goes just look at it for a while and it will eventually start to make sense. I know that sounds crazy but you will eventually get it
[08:16] <Ben64> antii: that doesn't count
[08:16] <dr_willis>  /proc is special
[08:17] <bobo37773> Later everybody. Take care.
[08:17] <kroonrs> antii: Not sure what that's supposed to be, so I can't advise you to delete it...
[08:17] <sweb> how can i checkdisk my root partition ?
[08:18] <Ben64> antii: pastebin the output of "sudo du -h --max-depth 1 /"
[08:18] <kroonrs> antii: you can backtrack, and look for something else big taking up a lot of space?
[08:18] <sweb> some of my folders is lostttttt
[08:18] <dr_willis> sweb: id use a live cd.
[08:18] <antii> Ben64: in what folder?
[08:18] <syn-ack> kroonrs, looks like a kernel dump.
[08:18] <antii> Ben64: /?
[08:18] <Ben64> antii: if you type it how i have it there, any
[08:18] <whumphrey> zykotick9 you still there, i lost connection
[08:19] <antii> Ben64: http://pastebin.com/uR9YuKPg
[08:19] <sweb>  dr_willis: any other method ?
[08:19] <dr_willis> !fsck
[08:19] <zykotick9> whumphrey_: from my very quick search, looks like you might have to use the windows driver with ndiswrapper (again it was a QUICK search, it may not be accurate).  But I can't/won't personally help with windows stuff.  Good luck.
[08:19] <Ben64> antii: well that shows /home taking the majority of the space
[08:19] <whumphrey> ok thanks
[08:20] <whumphrey> I tried ndiswrapper but cannot get the driver to link to the adapter
[08:23] <Demonstrate> anyone know howto add ubuntu to favorites on empathy??
[08:24] <anoc> if i make ntpdate without sudo, i get bind() fails: permission denied.   and i did make my username to sudo group
[08:26] <antii> Ben64: lol found it..<PHONE_NUMBER>4 2012-02-14 09:04 .xsession-errors.old
[08:26] <ivano_> #ubuntu-it
[08:26] <shaji> configuring dhcp for different subnets howto can you help
[08:27] <Ben64> antii: a 26GB file?
[08:28] <antii> Ben64: 126GB
[08:28] <antii> Ben64: found the cause of it
[08:29] <Gskellig> when i create a user, how come I cant login via ssh with the password i made
[08:30] <Demonstrate> Gskellig: have yyou setup ssh on that user?
[08:30] <zykotick9> Gskellig: how did you create the user?
[08:30] <sudoduck> so, wget is only returning the first part of a site, even when i tell it to --ignore-length. thoughts?
[08:30] <zykotick9> Demonstrate: what do you mean?
[08:31] <Demonstrate> permissions..
[08:31] <Gskellig> useradd -m -p password user1
[08:31] <Gskellig> ?
[08:31] <zykotick9> Gskellig: i can't help.  In future you might want to try "adduser" instead
[08:31] <Gskellig> and I added it to sudoers
[08:31] <overclucker> Gskellig: first of all, that's not a very seccure way to set the password
[08:32] <Gskellig> I was going to change it as soon as I logged in
[08:32] <overclucker> Gskellig: do you have the openssh-server package installed?
[08:32] <zykotick9> Gskellig: using adduser will setup users properly
[08:32] <Gskellig> adduser != useradd ??
[08:32] <Gskellig> thanks
[08:32] <kroonrs> Question: How can I un-minimize an app that minimizes to system tray in unity?  (I can't seem to find the system tray anywhere...)
[08:32] <Demonstrate> kroons alt-tab works..
[08:33] <kroonrs> Demonstrate: no, it doesn't
[08:33] <ActionParsnip> yeah was thinking alt+tab
[08:33] <kroonrs> Demonstrate: that's why i'm asking
[08:33] <Gskellig> sigh wow i did not know adduser even existed
[08:33] <Demonstrate> really now..
[08:33] <ActionParsnip> !adduser | Gskellig
[08:33] <overclucker> Gskellig: useradd and adduser should both work. adduser with prompt you for the password without echoing it to to terminal
[08:34] <Gskellig> still says permission denied when trying to ssh
[08:34] <overclucker> Gskellig: to you have openssh-server installed?
[08:35] <Gskellig> yeah
[08:35] <Gskellig> its the only way i currently have access to it lol
[08:35] <Gskellig> its a server
[08:35] <overclucker> Gskellig: try sudo passwd username
[08:35] <gerard007> goeden morgen ieder
[08:36] <Gskellig> still says denied overclucker
[08:36] <Halexander9000> Hello! I was trying to install qjoypad and followed the instructions in the install notes. It said it needed Qt4.0 or greater, so I installed Qt4.7.4. But it refuses to recognize it thus won't obey the ./config command. What can I do to make it work?
[08:36] <Demonstrate> to whom ever cant get their mininized windows
[08:36] <Demonstrate> create a task bar..
[08:36] <gerard007> goodmorning room
[08:36] <Demonstrate> http://www.liberiangeek.net/2011/10/add-taskbar-in-ubuntu-11-0411-10-with-panel-tint2/ good taskbar but you can also  use avant
[08:37] <Lint> after update grub2 gives me butt hurt. i need a way to boot ubuntu in text mode because otherwise all my consoles are colorful mess in GUI mode
[08:37] <Lint> i tried nomodeset kernel parameter but avsolutely nohing changed
[08:38] <ActionParsnip> Demonstrate: tint2 is pretty sweet
[08:38] <Demonstrate> ^ this.
[08:38] <ActionParsnip> Lint: what GPU do you use
[08:38] <gerard007> is er iemand die mij kan helpen met opstarten van een dvd
[08:38] <Lint> ActionParsnip, SVGA
[08:39] <ActionParsnip> Lint: thats neary every video card post 1990
[08:39] <ActionParsnip> Lint: nvida? intel? radeon? sis?
[08:39] <zykotick9> Lint: "lspci | grep -i vga"
[08:39] <md0crap> can someone remote in and help me with a raid problem?
[08:39] <jatt> !nl
[08:39] <sudoduck> no wget wizards on this morning?
[08:39] <Gskellig> the password is right, still isn't sshing
[08:40] <Demonstrate> md0crap:  what's the problem?
[08:40] <gerard007> dankje ga ik direct doen
[08:40] <whumphrey> anyone willing to help with a wireless usb adapter problem?
[08:40] <ActionParsnip> whumphrey: what is the issue?
[08:40] <md0crap> seemingly healthy disks are failing when I try to build a raid
[08:40] <overclucker> Gskellig: try ssh username@localhost from the server, and see if it works
[08:40] <Demonstrate> md0crap: oh.. well that like punches me in the mouth  really..
[08:40] <Lint> the problem is that even grub2 is running in graphic mode
[08:40] <ActionParsnip> Gskellig: what message do you get when you try to connect?
[08:41] <ActionParsnip> Lint: Grub2 is text only
[08:41] <Gskellig> permission denied, please try again
[08:41] <Gskellig> even from localhost
[08:41] <Demonstrate> whumphrey: What USB adapter are you using?
[08:41] <ActionParsnip> Gskellig: is the new user the owner of it's own $HOME?
[08:41] <Lint> ActionParsnip, wrong, I can see in monitor properties. text mode is 720*400, but grub menu appears at 640*480
[08:42] <Gskellig> i think so
[08:42] <Halexander9000> Hello?
[08:42] <Gskellig> how do i check?
[08:42] <zykotick9> Gskellig: "permission denied" that's not a password issue.  Do you have userallow in /etc/ssh/sshd_config?
[08:42] <ActionParsnip> Lint: its still text only, there is nothing graphical in Grub2
[08:42] <ActionParsnip> Lint: so not wrong at all
[08:43] <whumphrey> well there are no networks appearing I tried installing using ndiswrapper
[08:43] <Demonstrate> ActionParsnip: Do you think you can elaborate on replacing grub with Lilo?
[08:43] <Lint> ActionParsnip, then why its menu is in graphic mode?
[08:43] <Demonstrate> whumphrey: what is the usb adapter chipset/ name etc?
[08:43] <whumphrey> ActionParsnip, it's a netgear wna3100
[08:43] <overclucker> Lint: like a grub splash image?
[08:44] <Lint> overclucker, what the hellis this?
[08:44] <ActionParsnip> Lint: did you edit /etc/default/grub  and change the resolution there?
[08:44] <ActionParsnip> whumphrey: run:  lsusb   and use teh 8 character hex ID to find guides
[08:44] <whumphrey> Demonstrate, it's a netgear wna3100
[08:45] <Gskellig> zykotick9, "Allowusers root user1"
[08:45] <Gskellig> trying to login as user1
[08:45] <Demonstrate> whumphrey:  do what actionparsnip says lsusb and print the ID here
[08:45] <Gskellig> AllowUsers rather
[08:45] <whumphrey> 0846:9020
[08:45] <Lint> ActionParsnip, there's GRUB_GFXMODE, but it's commented out
[08:45] <zykotick9> Gskellig: did you just add user1?  you'd need to restart ssh for that to take effect
[08:45] <ActionParsnip> whumphrey: ok, use that to find guides
[08:46] <ActionParsnip> Lint: uncomment it, set the resolution and run:  sudo update-grub
[08:46] <Gskellig> zykotick9, that must be it
[08:46] <andre_> cc
[08:46] <zykotick9> Gskellig: i mean, did you just add user1 to that sshd_config file?
[08:46] <Gskellig> yeah
[08:46] <Gskellig> recently
[08:46] <Lint> ActionParsnip, but I don't need a resolution, I want plain text screen!
[08:47] <zykotick9> Gskellig: "sudo service ssh restart" should work (i don't believe it will disconnect you, but not 100%)
[08:47] <ActionParsnip> Lint: if your screen needs to use a certain res it will need to be set so you can see the Grub menu
[08:47] <sidb>
[08:47] <kroonrs> Demonstrate: thanks re tint2, but it doesn't seem to be showing up there, either.
[08:47] <Demonstrate> really???
[08:47] <Lint> ActionParsnip, it doesn't need anything. it should be in plain text mode, but grub2 switches it in graphic one
[08:48] <Demonstrate> kroonrs: what did you minimize that isn't showing?
[08:48] <kroonrs> Demonstrate: when I run the program off the command line, I get "QGtkStyle was unable to detect the current GTK+ theme."
[08:48] <ActionParsnip> Lint: are you running Ubuntu Server (no X server / desktop UI)?
[08:48] <kroonrs> Demonstrate: it's a local university app for internet access accounting
[08:48] <Gskellig> woot
[08:48] <Gskellig> thanks guys
[08:48] <Gskellig> ssh works
[08:48] <Demonstrate> did it by any chance hop in the top right?
[08:48] <Gskellig> cant believe i forgot that
[08:48] <Lint> ActionParsnip, no, it's normal one
[08:48] <ActionParsnip> Lint: so what video card are you using in the system?
[08:49] <maestro> My ubuntu 11.10 is not detecting my bluetooth adapter(not usb adapter, its on board). Please help me..!
[08:49] <Lint> ActionParsnip, why are you trying to derail my question?
[08:49] <ActionParsnip> maestro: if you run:  dmesg | grep -i blue   does it show in the boot messages?
[08:50] <maestro> ActionParnsip, lemme check
[08:50] <ActionParsnip> Lint: you are having an issue with video display, right?
[08:50] <Demonstrate> kroonrs: did that error occur over tint2?
[08:50] <kroonrs> Demonstrate: nope - I can make it appear in the top right with gsettings, but then I can't restore it from minimize - the icon just sits in the launcher
[08:51] <kroonrs> Demonstrate: no
[08:51] <cryptodira> after a re-install of amd/64 10.10, 'some' xscreensaver modules no longer have a preview and return this error: terminated with signal 11   other modules work fine... options/solutions ?
[08:51] <kroonrs> Demonstrate: the error was there before tint2
[08:51] <Demonstrate> wait so how did you get "QGtkStyle was unable to detect the current GTK+ theme"??
[08:51] <Lint> ActionParsnip, no, I'm having an issue with grub2 which insist on working in graphic mode, and with kernel configuration which also boots in graphic mode
[08:51] <Demonstrate> Ughh unity sucks.
[08:51] <kroonrs> Demonstrate: I ran "NXInetkey" (the application) on the command line
[08:51] <crizzy> unity rocks <3
[08:51] <Lint> i need them both not to mess with it and boot normally
[08:51] <Guest1160> hello
[08:51] <kroonrs> Demonstrate: the application works fine at first, but when I minimize it, I can't get back to it with alt-tab, and it's nowhere on the system tray
[08:52] <maestro> ActionPArnsip, here is the pastebin link of the dmesg http://paste.ubuntu.com/841428/
[08:52] <urfr332g0> Demonstrate, are you able to save tint2 changes?
[08:52] <Guest1160> very good chat ) i first time install IRC
[08:52] <Demonstrate> urfr332g0: it's not for me it's for kroonrs
[08:52] <urfr332g0> Demonstrate, ah cool
[08:53] <Lint> Firtstly, GRUB2
[08:53] <Demonstrate> kroonrs:  well that beats me... tint2 should print up all minimized windows, umm have you tried using the windows version of that program and running it under wine?
[08:54] <ActionParsnip> cryptodira: Maverick is EOL in April. I wouldn't waste any time with a fresh Maverick install...
[08:54] <maestro> ActionParsnip,here is the link for the result of dmesg:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/841428/
[08:54] <Jordan_U> Lint: To get grub to use VBE Text mode, add (or uncomment) GRUB_TERMINAL=console in /etc/default/grub and run "sudo update-grub".
[08:55] <Demonstrate> Yay!!! there seems to be a problem with the default linux kernel on 11.04, before the update something was eating all of my 8 core's resources all over 80% workload on idle. just a heads up..
[08:55] <ActionParsnip> maestro: seems to be detected then :0
[08:55] <kroonrs> Demonstrate: that might work - I just asked the initial question because of the weird systray items not in alt-tab behaviour.  If that's not common, I'll probably switch to a different application for the internet accounting.  It also minimizes to sys-tray, so I can see if that is the fault or not.  Thanks for the help.
[08:56] <Demonstrate> kroonrs:  sorry  I couldn't help you solve that mysterious unminimization..
[08:56] <maestro> ActionParsnip, But bluetooth manager of ubuntu and blueman both does not detects it...:(
[08:56]  * Lint wonders why the hell restart has no suid bit
[08:56] <maestro> ActionParsnip, Ubuntu`s bluetooth manager says no adapter found..
[08:57] <cryptodira> ActionParsnip, i went back to 10.10 after an auto-update to 11.04 failed.... i have nearly everything restored, this xscreensaver issue is next on the list... it works except for some modules, hence the query for assistance here.
[08:57] <Demonstrate> Anyone know how to stop  empathy from resizing when i type too long? it stretches past my monitors range o.o I have to reset it after.
[08:59] <sun__> hello
[08:59] <sun__> guy
[08:59] <sun__> ^)
[08:59] <ActionParsnip> maestro: try:  sudo hcitool dev    do you see a device?
[09:00] <ActionParsnip> cryptodira: surely clean installing Natty would have been wiser? Or Oneiric?
[09:01] <maestro> ActionParsnip, Nopes...! Its`s output is"Device:       "(and blank)
[09:01] <Jordan_U> Lint: Please watch your language. And because it's usually not desireable that absolutely any user be able to reboot the machine.
[09:01] <sun__> who learn python?
[09:02] <Demonstrate> who knows python? I do.
[09:02] <ubuntuaddicted> ne1 in here work at canonical?
[09:02] <phix> i has python
[09:02] <maestro> sun__ i do
[09:02] <dr_willis> i made a 'shutdown' user once. with shutdowd as their shell... ;)
[09:02] <Lint> Jordan_U, absolutely any user can reboot a machine. there's a small button on that machine's case
[09:02] <phix> dr_willis: yay \o/
[09:03] <dr_willis> Lint:  not on my case.. anymore.
[09:03] <zykotick9> dr_willis: solaris used to have a shutdown user i believe
[09:03] <cryptodira> ActionParsnip, no doubt you are correct, however, being off grid and with a slow satellite connection, i chose to stay with maverick until early summer when the road will be free of snow and i can once again get snail mail.  can you offer a solution to the problem at hand?
[09:03] <Jordan_U> Lint: Only if they have local access.
[09:03] <Demonstrate> dr_willis: so how do you turn it on..................
[09:03] <phix> Lint: not on mu computer, its behind an alarmed locked cabinet  too!zz
[09:03] <Demonstrate> If { powerbutton =! then ??
[09:03] <dr_willis> Demonstrate:  its inside the case. away from the 3 yr old.
[09:04] <Jordan_U> Lint: The same packages are used for all Ubuntu Flavors, that includes Ubuntu Server (ignoring the fact that I also use my Ubuntu Desktop as a server).
[09:04] <whumphrey> Demonstrate, I'm going around in circles with the guides i'm finding
[09:04] <dr_willis> seen magnetic switches also.
[09:04] <Demonstrate> dr_willis: oh.. I guess im the only nerd who has his own computer cave & 8core cpu 64gb ram huh..
[09:04] <Demonstrate> whumphrey:  Ill help you out
[09:04] <urfr332g0> what's the hide desktop command crtl?
[09:04] <Demonstrate> whumphrey:  can you tell us the ID in lsusb?
[09:05] <whumphrey> Demonstrate, thank you
[09:05]  * Lint bets that ubuntu allows remote logins too
[09:05] <whumphrey> yes
[09:05] <whumphrey> Bus 001 Device 007: ID 0846:9020 NetGear, Inc. WNA3100(v1) Wireless-N 300 [Broadcom BCM43231]
[09:05] <sun__> i have dilema beetwin python and perl both language i small study  please advise me whose language better and more help for system administration?
[09:05] <urfr332g0> ah crtl-alt-d doh
[09:06] <dr_willis> sun__: learn both
[09:06] <ivano> #ubuntu-it
[09:06] <sun__> sorry for my english ia have process study engliw
[09:06] <Demonstrate> whumphrey:  give me a sec  im looking around
[09:06] <sun__> who first?
[09:06] <dr_willis> sun__:  and learn regular expressions
[09:06] <Demonstrate> sun__: python.
[09:06] <whumphrey> Demonstrate, okay man thanks again
[09:07] <Demonstrate> whumphrey: what version of ubuntu you runnin?
[09:07] <sun__> foundations both language i know... but don't learn lib this language
[09:07] <whumphrey> 12.10
[09:07] <whumphrey> Demonstrate, 12.10
[09:08] <Ben64> whumphrey: no you aren't
[09:08] <Demonstrate> 11
[09:08] <Demonstrate> obviously.
[09:08] <Ben64> could be 12.04
[09:08] <whumphrey> i mean 11.10
[09:08] <whumphrey> sorry
[09:08] <sun__> Demonstrate thk ))
[09:08] <maestro> ActionParsnip, u there...?
[09:08] <Demonstrate> whumphrey: are you on x86 or x64?
[09:09] <sun__> yes regural exprassions, i going to learn soon )))
[09:09] <ActionParsnip> maestro: back
[09:09] <whumphrey> pretty sure x86 32 bit
[09:09] <sun__> IRC real good 4at for gik )
[09:09] <rokyronnie> can somebody help me to configure my Audio card ? everything is working fine but my mike input it doesn't work
[09:09] <Demonstrate> whumphrey:  do you have your driver disk for the adapter?
[09:09] <whumphrey> yes
[09:09] <ActionParsnip> whumphrey: ask in #ubuntu+1 for prerelease please
[09:10] <Demonstrate> grab the inf file for x32 and try using ndis
[09:10] <maestro> ActionParsnip: So you know what the problem is there with my laptop...?
[09:10] <Demonstrate> 11.10 pre-release?
[09:10] <whumphrey> ActionParsnip, que paso no intendo
[09:10] <ActionParsnip> no but 12.04 is pre-release
[09:10] <Ben64> ActionParsnip: he said 12.10, meant 11.10
[09:11] <whumphrey> yea what he said
[09:11] <Demonstrate> whumphrey: do you have access to the INF file from the disk?
[09:11] <Lint> Jordan_U, thanks, that worked
[09:12] <c31r2g> hi ActionParsnip!!!!
[09:12] <Jordan_U> Lint: You're welcome.
[09:12]  * Lint wonders why grub has such a g.. configuration by default
[09:12] <whumphrey> Demonstrate, I don't think so but it may just be I don'e know how to get to it
[09:12] <Demonstrate> whumphrey: http://sourceforge.net/apps/mediawiki/ndiswrapper/index.php?title=Netgear_WNA3100
[09:13] <Demonstrate> whumphrey: driver: ? (bcmwlhigh5 | bcmwlhigh6) are the driver file names google for them & good luck that guide expresses everything pretty thuroghly
[09:14] <Demonstrate> I love my auto-detected ralink off amazon for 4 dollars ^^
[09:15] <ActionParsnip> maestro: what make an model laptop?
[09:15]  * Demonstrate goes to sleep.
[09:15] <ActionParsnip> ikonia: thanks
[09:15] <whumphrey> Demonstrate, ndiswrapper -a 0846:9020 bcmwlhigh5
[09:15] <whumphrey> couldn't create symlink for "0846:9011.F.conf": Permission denied -
[09:15] <whumphrey> installation may be incomplete
[09:15] <whumphrey> driver 'bcmwlhigh5' is not installed (properly)!
[09:16] <ActionParsnip> whumphrey: use ndisgtk  it will be easier
[09:16] <whumphrey> Demonstrate, that's pretty much where I'm getting stuck
[09:16] <Demonstrate> try the GUI version.
[09:16] <ActionParsnip> whumphrey: is it not a broadcom 43xx chip?
[09:16] <maestro> ActionParsnip, I am having dual boot ubuntu 11.10 + windows7 runnin on  Hp-G6-1219tu model laptop I3-second gen.
[09:17] <whumphrey> from what I've read it is but I've read both that the 43xx firmware works and that it does not
[09:17] <ActionParsnip> maestro: the cpu ismoot
[09:17] <Demonstrate> ActionParsnip: it is a broadcom with no native.
[09:17] <maestro> ActionParsnip, ?
[09:17] <ActionParsnip> maestro: in windows, disable power management on the bluetooth and disable its ability to wake the system up
[09:17] <ActionParsnip> maestro: moot == irrelevant in this context
[09:17] <ActionParsnip> Demonstrate: gah
[09:18] <Demonstrate> whumphrey: from what I've read v1/v2 are diffrent chipset's but apperantly if you've got the version with (bcmwlhigh6 ) you can get it working.
[09:19] <maestro> ActionParsnip, Actually i knew about this sad ass feature of my laptop that if i have my wifi+bluetooth off in windows the i wont be able to run it on Ubuntu. So i made sure that the bluetooth and wifi were running on windows7 before i rebooted to ubuntu
[09:20] <maestro> ActionParsnip, The wifi is working properly but as i told you bluetooth is not
[09:20] <Demonstrate> whumphrey:  That's about All I can find on it Wish you luck dude I'm going to crash out (I pm'd you)
[09:20] <c31r2g> maestro in my case bluetooth works but wifi not
[09:21] <ActionParsnip> maestro: check the power management stuff, it can affect the Ubuntu OS.
[09:21] <ActionParsnip> suprised anyone uses bluetooth, its so slow
[09:21] <c31r2g> maestro plugin the bluetooth and restart and see it  worked for me
[09:21] <rokyronnie> can somebody help me to configure my audio card ? my mike doesn't work
[09:21] <maestro> c31r2g, this silly stuff really amazes me. I never understand why the hell manufacturers does these stuff
[09:22] <whumphrey> I think I got it, I used the GUI, uninstalled the bcmwlhigh5.inf and used the bcmn43xx32.inf and I think it's going to work. Says the hardware is present now
[09:22] <maestro> ActionParsnip, I will do that on my next reboot. Lets see if it helps. Or i will have to disturb the channel again....:)
[09:22] <c31r2g> ActionParsnip i cant use my wifi on live usb so i had to connect to bluetooth and it worked for me
[09:22] <ActionParsnip> rokyronnie: what is the output of: wget -O alsa-info.sh http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-info.sh && chmod +x ./alsa-info.sh && ./alsa-info.sh
[09:23] <c31r2g> maestro anytime :)
[09:24] <rokyronnie> ActionParsnip : it gave me a list
[09:24] <maestro> c31r2g, Is your wifi broadcom 43xx series?
[09:24] <Lint> I cannot see language selection option in new ubuntu login screen
[09:24] <c31r2g> no maestro its atheros .....
[09:25] <rokyronnie> dmesg, lspci, lsmod, aplay, amixer, alsactl, /proc/asound/, /sys/class/sound/, ~/.aoundrc ( etc.)
[09:25] <ActionParsnip> rokyronnie: run that command and select to upload to the server, a red url will be made, what is it?
[09:25] <c31r2g> maestro look at my wireless card if you like
[09:25] <rokyronnie> http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=36aab67c68286df434720ea01b14a93b053f545f
[09:25] <maestro> ohk... As mine was that and i had to make some adjustments in order to make my wifi work.... Earlier it would only detect the wifi networks but wont connect to them
[09:26] <c31r2g> maestro did yoour bluetooth work ???////
[09:26] <maestro> c31r2g, I dont know much about this stuff.. u see i am just a newbie here... I started ubuntu only 2 months before
[09:27] <c31r2g> and me maestro i started linux only 6 days ago!!!!!
[09:27] <maestro> c31r2g, its not a usb adapter. Its installed on the motherboard.
[09:27] <maestro> :D
[09:27] <magicJ> i want to allow ssh but stop sftp and rsync etc - it seems to be that as soon as I permit ssh connections I end up with anything else that uses ssh - is there any way around this
[09:27] <ActionParsnip> rokyronnie: creative audigy rubbish can be a pain to get working
[09:28] <rokyronnie> so what should I do ? instead of buying another audio card
[09:28] <c31r2g> i'm a newbie too maestro
[09:28] <ActionParsnip> rokyronnie: if you run:  alsamixer   are all levels cranked and unmuted?
[09:28] <maestro> hey c31r2g you school student or what?
[09:29] <user1__> ne
[09:29] <c31r2g> maestro hi study in college
[09:29] <c31r2g> hi=i*
[09:29] <cloudgeek> problem with ssh Permission denied (publickey).
[09:29] <cloudgeek> when i try ssh -i default.pem<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[09:29] <ActionParsnip> rokyronnie: may help http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1092667
[09:29] <maestro> c31r2g ohk... so must some sort of computer engineer. IT or CSE?
[09:30] <cloudgeek> how fix issue public key permission denied
[09:30] <c31r2g> yup studing
[09:30] <ActionParsnip> cloudgeek: what if you connect as your user?
[09:30] <c31r2g> maestro you from india or what
[09:30] <maestro> c31r2g India...:D
[09:30] <c31r2g> :)
[09:30] <cloudgeek> ActionParsnip: same error
[09:30] <maestro> c31r2g U too...?
[09:30] <c31r2g> maestro can you determine the country from its ip
[09:31] <c31r2g> yup
[09:31] <maestro> Yes i guess.. i know site that will do that for me
[09:31] <c31r2g> what site maestro
[09:31] <cloudgeek> ActionParsnip: when i try with user name then also said that public key access denied
[09:31] <c31r2g> please tell it to me
[09:32] <rokyronnie> ActionParsnic : all my level are maxed in alsamixer
[09:32] <sattu94> maestro, c31r2g : Me Too!
[09:32] <c31r2g> me too?
[09:32] <cloudgeek> ActionParsnip: i using a pem key and i copied that one ,using same i trying taking acess
[09:32] <sattu94> c31r2g: India!
[09:32] <ActionParsnip> rokyronnie: http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=57655
[09:32] <maestro> sattu94: Your name pretty much says that..:P
[09:33] <maestro> c31r2g: indiatrace.com/
[09:33] <c31r2g> maestro please tell me the site
[09:33] <c31r2g> ok
[09:33] <c31r2g> what not only india any country???please maestro
[09:33] <Ben64> c31r2g: whois
[09:34] <c31r2g> Ben64 hi there
[09:34] <maestro> c31r2g bhai just go and google it... Google devta hai...:D
[09:34] <c31r2g> maestro right
[09:34] <sattu94> maestro, c31r2g: go offtopic please.
[09:34] <maestro> c31r2g you are from?
[09:34] <phix> So who wanted help with python before?  still need assistance?
[09:34] <cloudgeek> c31r2g: maestro:bahi kons si website ,i can help
[09:34] <phix> obviously it has to be ubuntu related too :)
[09:34] <c31r2g> maestro india
[09:35] <sattu94> maestro, c31r2g: #ubuntu-offtopic please.
[09:35] <c31r2g> cloudgeek ip ,country website ,anyways got it
[09:35] <phix> It's a trap! I tried to speak off topic in #ubuntu-offtopic before and I was banned :)
[09:35] <maestro> c31r2g where in india?
[09:35] <cloudgeek> c31r2g: didn't get you
[09:36] <phix> LjL: <3
[09:36] <c31r2g> maestro nashik for now studing
[09:36]  * monk hates ubuntu
[09:36] <Ben64> !ot | c31r2g maestro
[09:36] <monk> new update = FAIL
[09:36] <c31r2g> cloudgeek i said determing country from ip but i got the answer thanks to Ben64 ,,you're always there :)
[09:37] <c31r2g> ot??Ben64 whats that
[09:37] <cloudgeek> c31r2g: use samspade
[09:37] <c31r2g> ok
[09:37] <maestro> c31r2g k cool. now enough of chit chat. This is a professional channel...:P
[09:37] <Ben64> offtopic, this isn't relating to ubuntu support
[09:37] <maestro> Ben64 exactly what i mean
[09:37] <c31r2g> sorry Ben64 i will be :x on offtopic :)
[09:38] <cloudgeek> c31r2g: or use firefox addon for the same
[09:38] <Halexander9000> Hello! I was trying to install qjoypad and followed the instructions in the install notes. It said it needed Qt4.0 or greater, so I installed Qt4.7.4. But it refuses to recognize it thus won't obey the ./config command. What can I do to make it work?
[09:38] <cloudgeek> c31r2g: this is not related to Ubuntu
[09:38] <c31r2g> ok thanks cloudgeek
[09:38] <ActionParsnip> monk: if you don't like it, don't use it.  Someone?
[09:41] <monk> well im having a bad day, which is getting worse
[09:41] <rokyronnie> ActionParsnip : thanks for the link, but.. I can't figure it out
[09:41] <cloudgeek> ActionParsnip: +1
[09:41] <poolski> I have a software RAID1 I made with mdadm under Ubuntu 32-bit- if I reinstall a 64-bit version of it, will mdadm still work?
[09:41] <phix> monk: DOn't be a hater
[09:41] <maestro> monk, you better behave. this is not your private channel, and the guy you are abusing is more knowledgeable then you would ever be in ur lifetime
[09:41] <poolski> or will it only work under the same architecture?
[09:41] <Halexander9000> Please?
[09:41] <monk> maestro: no he is not, he is an ubuntu user
[09:42] <ActionParsnip> rokyronnie: all I can suggest is report a bug
[09:42] <sattu94> !ask | Halexander9000
[09:42] <cloudgeek> monk: quit plz
[09:42] <ActionParsnip> monk: and what else do I use..?
[09:42] <phix> Halexander9000: you need the dev package installed too
[09:42] <cloudgeek> ActionParsnip: behave like a linux user | or read ctab how to behave on irc
[09:42] <Ben64> i think ubottu died
[09:42] <Halexander9000> @sattu94 I was trying to install qjoypad and followed the instructions in the install notes. It said it needed Qt4.0 or greater, so I installed Qt4.7.4. But it refuses to recognize it thus won't obey the ./config command. What can I do to make it work?
[09:42] <Ben64> !test
[09:42] <phix> Halexander9000: you need the dev package installed too
[09:42] <cloudgeek> Ben64: + | !of]
[09:42] <monk> cloudgeek: make me
[09:42] <maestro> monk, whatever, he has helped me. for a problem that no one else knew. so i respect him. and u better mind yourself
[09:43] <Halexander9000> phix: I installed the SDK package.
[09:43] <maestro> monk, dont pollute the channel
[09:43] <phix> Halexander9000: -dev at the end?
[09:43] <ActionParsnip> cloudgeek: I'm always good, just people pointlessly spouting opinions to nobody is a little tiresome
[09:43] <Halexander9000> Erm... the online installer.
[09:43] <phix> Halexander9000: Paste the error message you are getting in pastebin and gimme the URL
[09:43] <c31r2g> Ben64 where is ubutto i miss him :)
[09:43] <eona3> I need help plz. I just installed Ubuntu on my laptop and when I went to reboot after the initial install it wont reboot into anything so I chose to reboot from the second HDD and it looks like it starts to boot the doesn't do anything. I really need to get this online asap as I have school tomorrow. Thx
[09:43] <Halexander9000> Sure. Thanks phix.
[09:43] <raboof> Support for 10.10 expires in april. Is it still posssible to upgrade from 10.10 to 12.04 after april? or will 10.10 be removed somehow so I'll have to plan 2 upgrade cycles to get to 12.04?
[09:44] <c31r2g> 6th day on linux and its been superb really!
[09:44] <phix> eona3: oh noes
[09:44] <mraxilus> Is there a language switcher app indicator for 11.10?
[09:44] <eona3> :(
[09:44] <c31r2g> when is next ubuntu out??
[09:44] <mraxilus> I need to be able to swap between spanish and english easily.
[09:44] <ActionParsnip> raboof: yes but you will need to upgrade to 11.04 then to 11.10, then to 12.04
[09:44] <phix> eona3: CTRL+ALT+F1 do anything when it boots up?
[09:44] <phix> c31r2g: april
[09:44] <eona3> I'll try
[09:44] <c31r2g> thanks phix
[09:44] <c31r2g> bye
[09:45] <ActionParsnip> raboof: I suggest a clean install of Precise when it is released :)
[09:45] <Ben64> http://ubottu.com/factoids.cgi
[09:45] <Ben64> ubottu is definitely dead, who is in charge of him?
[09:45] <phix> c31r2g: Ubuntu releases are in April and October or each year (hense the version number of Ubuntu, the latest being 11.10, meaning 2011 10th month (october)
[09:45] <c31r2g> Ben64 is he really there
[09:46] <ActionParsnip> !coffee
[09:46] <c31r2g> phix really thanks for the info i didn't know it
[09:46] <ActionParsnip> looks like she is sleeping
[09:46] <phix> or - of
[09:46] <dr_willis> cpr!
[09:46] <cloudgeek> monk: monk:not like that man ,but we have create irc for ideal for professional ,if do same thing here ,then how newbie can learn good things from here , we respect every ubuntu irc user.but newbie also take lesson from us .so please don't do next time specially abusing
[09:46] <phix> c31r2g: so guess what the next version number will be?
[09:46] <c31r2g> 12.04 phix lol
[09:47] <cloudgeek> !coffee | !Ubuntu
[09:47] <c31r2g> phix :)
[09:47] <phix> c31r2g: :D  DING DING DING DING DING!!! you have won a new car!!
[09:47] <phix> well not really
[09:47] <monk> cloudgeek: im not abusing anyone
[09:47] <whumphrey> okay got the adapter working but cannot get it to connect, as though there is an issue with the wireless encryption translation
[09:47] <c31r2g> where is my new key!!1phix
[09:47] <Halexander9000> phix: Thanks for taking time to help me. This is the error message: http://pastebin.com/0hQGD3Yb and this is where I got my Qt from: http://qt.nokia.com/downloads
[09:47] <monk> im just irritated that an ubuntu update borked the laptop
[09:47] <phix> c31r2g: It's 128 bits, you redy for it?
[09:47] <eona3> If I do the default boot it doesn't do anything but if I boot to the second HDD it goes to tty1 etc. Why would it install the boot loader thing to the second HDD? The problem is that is a TruCrypt drive that has really important data on it. How should I proceed?
[09:47] <phix> Halexander9000: ok I will tak ea look
[09:47] <Halexander9000> phix: The online installer for the Linux/x11.
[09:47] <kollapse> monk: What happened ?
[09:48] <cloudgeek> monk: or agree ,be calm many things happen with us !
[09:48] <c31r2g> 128 bit?i heard 32,64 but this??phix
[09:48] <cloudgeek> monk:which update !
[09:48] <Halexander9000> c31r2g: Maybe he's from the future.
[09:48] <c3sso> hello
[09:48] <monk> kollapse: sum kernel update on 11.04 and then i cannot boot into it...all sorted, reinstalled
[09:48] <cloudgeek> monk: tell your issue which broken your laptop ,we help you all
[09:49] <c31r2g> so such a thing doesnt exist Halexander9000?right
[09:49] <monk> kollapse: waiting for ca$h for a new laptop, then Gentoo is going on for sure
[09:49] <eona3> help?
[09:49] <dr_willis> not a problem any more then..
[09:49] <c3sso> is it just me or is theming a bit broken in precise pangolin?
[09:49] <monk> cloudgeek: not to worry, i sorted it by repairing
[09:49] <Halexander9000> c31r2g: It does exist. But at a different place, time and/or universe all together.
[09:49] <dr_willis> c3sso:  ask in #ubuntu+1
[09:49] <Ben64> c3sso: not just you, and precise channel is #ubuntu+1
[09:50] <c31r2g> ok
[09:50] <cloudgeek> monk: but what about your data is that is able to recover | okay is every thing is okay
[09:50] <c3sso> right thanks
[09:50] <kbotnen_> hi. Im trying to get unattended-upgrades to work and have a question about the config file. The tutorials (https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticSecurityUpdates) say the config file is named  10periodic, but the /etc/cron.daily/apt script says 02periodic. which is correct?
[09:50]  * Halexander9000 is listening to http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2dGpXuGWERQ&feature=g-u-u&context=G2d3f4b5FUAAAAAAAAAA
[09:51] <monk> cloudgeek: preserved $home (on separate partition)
[09:52] <cloudgeek> monk:yeah sounds good ! i also often make backup yeah
[09:52] <eona3> why would it install the boot loader on the opposite HDD I told it to install on? That is a major flaw if you asked me... just saying
[09:52] <yashshah> How to access the notification area in Ubuntu 11.10?
[09:52] <eona3> it being a TrueCrypt drive and all
[09:52] <dr_willis> access what do you mean yashshah ?
[09:53] <phix> Halexander9000: what version of qt you have installed?
[09:53] <Halexander9000> phix: Is there a command I should use to check that?
[09:54] <Halexander9000> phix: I showed you the download page.
[09:54] <eona3> phix: any ideas? thx
[09:54] <yashshah> we have notification area in 11.10 right? So, I want to write a script to notify about the events.
[09:55] <phix> Halexander9000: yeah dpkg -l | grep -i qt   will show you
[09:55] <phix> yashshah: You can use the notify command line application to stick stuff up there
[09:55] <phix> eona3: What was the question?
[09:55] <kbotnen_> yashshah, notify-send
[09:55] <eona3> phix: How should I proceed?
[09:56] <Halexander9000> phix: http://pastebin.com/NTvjV9Dd
[09:56] <yashshah> Yeah i would like to make the same thing as notify-send
[09:56] <phix> eona3: with what?
[09:56] <eona3> phix: it installed the boot loader to the second Truecrypt drive and it wont boot on the primary drive I told it to install on. How should I recover? thx
[09:57] <phix> eona3: why are you trying to use trucrypt for ubuntu?  use LUKS (which comes with ubuntu)
[09:57] <yashshah> kbotnen, Do you have any idea how notify-send access the notification area and notifies it?
[09:57] <kbotnen_> why cant you use the notify-send itself?
[09:57] <eona3> phix: ok, how should I get it to boot though
[09:57] <eona3> ?
[09:57] <kbotnen_> else yo uhave to go through the dbus.
[09:57] <phix> eona3: it just boots
[09:58] <phix> install it on the MBR
[09:58] <phix> the grub boot loader that is
[09:58] <eona3> phix: whats the easisest way to do that?
[09:58] <phix> eona3: There are docs on the ubuntu site that explains how to do this, I recommend you read them
[09:58] <eona3> phix: thanks...
[09:58] <phix> eona3: The easiest way is to spend 5 - 10 minutes reading the docs
[09:58] <yashshah> kbotnen_: What s dbus?
[09:59] <eona3> phix: any chance I can recover the second HDD that has Truecrypt that it installed on?
[09:59] <eona3> the boot loader
[09:59] <phix> eona3: you basically boot from CD, go through the setup, then in the disc manager you choose a partition to set as encryption drive, you need to use the alternate or server ubuntu CD, you cant do this with the esktop CD
[09:59] <phix> desktop even
[09:59] <phix> eona3: no idea
[10:00] <phix> I havnt used trucrypt to encrypt an entire drive before
[10:00] <woq> hi, anybody knows some autoit alternative for linux (especially qt-based)? was searching on g, but cant find anything interesting
[10:00] <eona3> phix: not trying to be rude but why on earth does it install the bootloader on the opposite HDD it is told to install on?
[10:00] <phix> woq: what is autoit?
[10:00] <eona3> isn't that a problem for some people?
[10:01] <c3sso> rather quiet in #ubuntu+1
[10:01] <phix> eona3: It installs on the disc you tell it to install on
[10:01] <___MAX> Hi, any know where to find the package location after making update to the Os
[10:01] <ActionParsnip> woq: sounds like bash to me
[10:01] <eona3> I told it to install on HDD0 and it did but installed the bootloader on HDD1
[10:01] <woq> phix: BASIC-like scripting language designed for automating the Windows GUI and general scripting
[10:01] <c3sso> wrong time (zone?)
[10:01] <ActionParsnip> ___MAX: the deb will be in /var/cache/apt/archives
[10:01] <woq> yeah, like bash, but i need it for X :>
[10:01] <phix> woq: sound horrible, I use Java or python for that :)
[10:02] <Lint> eona3, kernel 3 enumerates disks in other order than 2, isn't that it?
[10:02] <woq> phix: sounds like advanced programming for me...
[10:02] <ActionParsnip> c3sso: the internet is 24/7
[10:02] <woq> :)
[10:02] <c3sso> well then
[10:02] <phix> woq: BASIC like is always a bad idea
[10:02] <___MAX> actionParsnip: can i used for local update if the system crash
[10:03] <Halexander9000> Hey, does anyone play Minecraft?
[10:03] <woq> phix: yeah, but i need something simple, im not programmer, i just thought that autoit for linux would be awesome
[10:03] <phix> woq: If I want to be verbose then I use BASIC end if
[10:03] <ActionParsnip> ___MAX: sure, aptoncd will give you a pretty GUI but essenially you can copy those files and use them later if you want
[10:03] <eona3> Lint: why though? The GUI installer asked me where to install it so I said HDD0 and it did install it there but installed the Ubuntu bootloader, not Grub, to HDD1. Why?
[10:03] <c3sso> at least I know now that I am not alone with my theming problems in precise...
[10:03] <ActionParsnip> ___MAX: you can even tell apt-get to download every deb for your installed packages and you can back them up :)
[10:04] <___MAX> ActionParsnip: Thanks :)
[10:04] <eona3> Lint: the problem is that HDD1 is (was) a Trucrypt drive, ugh...
[10:04] <Lint> eona3, bootloader is always on active disk
[10:04] <Lint> actual grub code is in /boot or / partition
[10:05] <eona3> Lint: then why isn't the disc you tell it to install on made active?
[10:05] <c3sso> btw : does someboy know which program now displays the battery icon? is it gnome-session?
[10:05] <c31r2g> no
[10:05] <eona3> just saying...
[10:05] <phix> eona3: /dev/sda?
[10:05] <c3sso> because on openbox, I want to get rid of it ...
[10:06] <eona3> phix: sorry I'm not sure what you're asking
[10:06] <ivano_> #ubuntu-it
[10:06] <ActionParsnip> c3sso: the default OS shows battery level..
[10:06] <eona3> phix: I went through the GUI install of Ubuntu 11.10 and told it to install on HDD0, and it did, but installed the Ubuntu bootloader, not Grub, on HDD1...
[10:06] <eona3> and you know the rest.
[10:07] <mrguser> hi
[10:07] <mrguser> Any1 can help me?
[10:07] <eona3> HDD0 is where it was installed originally and should have been the active disc
[10:07] <eona3> and is the primary boot device as well
[10:08] <mrguser> how i can hack my e63???
[10:08] <stylus_ninja> mrguser: !ask
[10:09] <dr_willis> and a e63 is a ?
[10:09] <ActionParsnip> mrguser: to do what?
[10:09] <eona3> phix: I mean I'm trying to implement Ubuntu in a busniess medium network envirnoment. Will I need to physically take all of the HDDs out of the PC except for one?
[10:09] <ActionParsnip> dr_willis: seems to be a nokia phone
[10:09] <eona3> during install?
[10:09] <mrguser> Ya.. I want to install unsigd apps
[10:09] <Halexander9000> phix: ?
[10:10] <eona3> phix: How do I prevent this from happening in the future?
[10:10] <llutz> mrguser: and how is that an ubuntu-question?
[10:10] <dr_willis> mrguser:  check the android channel and forums perhaps?
[10:10] <stylus_ninja> mrguser, why and which programs?
[10:10] <eona3> I'm a huge Ubuntu fan but this is making implementation difficult
[10:11] <ActionParsnip> mgolisch: how is that ubuntu related?
[10:11] <c3sso> ActionParsnip: shure. I know that, the tray applet is ther in fallback mode tray and in openbox tray. I just wanted to know which program is providing it. I want to have theming on openbox, so I have to run gnoem-settings-daemon (thats the one I meant beforem too),  but I do not need the battery icon there, as openbox (tint2 has its own and the battery applet is messing with the space on the panel)
[10:11] <eona3> I mean I just lost over 400GBs of encrypted data...
[10:11] <eona3> because it wanted to install the bootloader on HDD1
[10:11] <eona3> instead of HDD0
[10:12] <ActionParsnip> c3sso: i believe its a xfce4-power-manager
[10:12] <ActionParsnip> c3sso: thats what I have on my lubuntu install
[10:12] <eona3> is this a normal part of any install?
[10:12] <eona3> if it is that is a major problem for network wide implementation
[10:13] <c3sso> ActionParsnip: no, not installed
[10:13] <Lint> eona3, I would check launchpad.net for similar reports
[10:13] <phix> bbl
[10:13] <freeway_> please pal how do i use skype on ubuntu 11.10
[10:13] <Halexander9000> phix: Erm... alright.
[10:13] <eona3> Lint: do you know of any way to recover that data at this point? thx for your help
[10:14] <Lint> eona3, was the entire physical disc the truecrypt volume?
[10:14] <c3sso> ActionParsnip: its the same (unclickable) icon as in gnome fallback. seems to be gnome power manager which provides it, but I am not shure
[10:14] <eona3> Lint: yes
[10:15] <Lint> eona3, i don't know much about true crypt sadly
[10:15] <fabianvampiro> hi I am newuser for here
[10:15] <fabianvampiro> Can you help me
[10:15] <fabianvampiro> ?
[10:15] <ActionParsnip> c3sso: http://paste.ubuntu.com/841497/    there is a power thing running, but its an item in the lxpanel
[10:16] <fabianvampiro> How to specify NETWORK PROXY in backbox??
[10:16] <fabianvampiro> this option is like ubuntu
[10:16] <cloudgeek> ActionParsnip: i fiexd that my pem key is owned by the root and i am acessing it from a user taht it refusing to take aceess
[10:16] <ActionParsnip> fabianvampiro: backbox isn't supported here
[10:16] <ActionParsnip> cloudgeek: ahhhh, makes sense
[10:16] <ActionParsnip> cloudgeek: glad you got the gold :)
[10:17] <dr_willis> isend there  a NetworkProxy env variable that many apps use?
[10:17] <cloudgeek> ActionParsnip: yep i make sense ,then i found then i owned it by that user then it accessing ! yeah
[10:17] <cloudgeek> !tor
[10:18] <rokyronnie> is there any plug-in that can show "what song is currently playing" in panel ?
[10:19] <ActionParsnip> rokyronnie: that is in the sound panel in a default install
[10:19] <napsy> Hello. What's the name of the package which has the 'ptrace' executable command?
[10:19] <rokyronnie> yes but I think it's just in the unity, and now I'm using Gnome 3 in classic mode
[10:20] <fabianvampiro> I need specific network proxy to connect a internet
[10:20] <dr_willis> most browsers have a proxy setting.
[10:20] <linuxlover> Hi people I have a conky script that has an error somewhere near the temperature variables here is the screenshot of that http://imagebin.org/198849 and here is the paste of that http://pastebin.com/b3r4ubD5 I want it to see like CPU1: 44C but it shows some A or some sign
[10:21] <ActionParsnip> rokyronnie: should still be under the volume icon
[10:21] <fabianvampiro> but, also I need update my S.O
[10:21] <fabianvampiro> across the proxy
[10:22] <ActionParsnip> fabianvampiro: your distro isn't supported here
[10:22] <freeway_> what s happening
[10:23] <cloudgeek> anybody using proxy of network like (tor or anyother proxy + Firefox(with pentadactyl) with some addon +vim as an ide +irssi as irc client + Ubuntu server as desktop+and a lzy sysdamin and programmer,developer in terms of automate the process  + power user of linux tools sed ,awk,find ,grep,ls,xargs,plus pipeline + plus using hadoop,hbase,mongodb,nosql,opensatck,gnuplot,scilab + i need that guy help i am using same +or looking for a master who can help in the
[10:23] <dr_willis> i thought he said he was using the blackbox window manager.
[10:23] <linuxlover> Hi people I have a conky script that has an error somewhere near the temperature variables here is the screenshot of that http://imagebin.org/198849 and here is the paste of that http://pastebin.com/b3r4ubD5 I want it to see like CPU1: 44C but it shows some A or some sign
[10:23] <ActionParsnip> dr_willis:  package which has the 'ptrace'
[10:23] <ActionParsnip>                executable command?
[10:23] <ActionParsnip> dang
[10:23] <ActionParsnip> dr_willis: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BackBox
[10:23] <dr_willis> !find ptrace
[10:24] <ActionParsnip> dr_willis: its yet another ubuntu spin..
[10:24] <dr_willis> blackbox or backbox? :) /me squints
[10:24] <cloudgeek> linuxlover: whynot use the pastie.org instead of pastebin.com
[10:24] <cloudgeek> !coffee
[10:24] <linuxlover> both are the same cloudgeek
[10:24] <linuxlover> well almost
[10:24] <fabianvampiro> backbox
[10:25] <ActionParsnip> fabianvampiro: its not a canonical release, so not supported here. None of the ubuntu based distros are]
[10:25] <cloudgeek> linuxlover: i know but look like a linux user there is a lot difference b/w them one is .com other .org like freenode
[10:25] <jiltdil> pinging to facebook shows like this. is ther any prob                64 bytes from www-13-01-prn1.facebook.com (<IP_ADDRESS>): icmp_req=1 ttl=244 time=286 ms
[10:25] <ActionParsnip> fabianvampiro: irc.lc/irc.autistici.org/backbox/
[10:26] <linuxlover> can someone help me with the conky issue i posted earlier?
[10:26] <ActionParsnip> linuxlover: tried in #conky
[10:26] <fabianvampiro> thanks
[10:26] <linuxlover> ActionParsnip I got no response looks as if everyone is sleeping :(
[10:27] <skilz> Hi, my brothers computer is getting stuck on the plymouth shutdown screen when he tries to shutdown or reboot and has to hold the power button, it doesnt want to powerdown. Just hangs at the plymouth shutdown screen.....
[10:28] <foenix> hey all, I have a big problem and I may lose my home folder if I don't get a good answer :/
[10:28] <foenix> does a linux mint migration delete encrypted home folders?
[10:29] <dr_willis> when in doubt make backups foenix
[10:29] <crizzy> this is not a mint support channel
[10:29] <crizzy> !mint
[10:29] <crizzy> !nomint
[10:29] <foenix> does the ubuntu migrate delete encrypted home folders?
[10:29] <crizzy> pffh :p
[10:29] <linuxlover> can someone help me with the conky issue i posted earlier?
[10:29] <foenix> and i do backup
[10:29] <dr_willis> Peppermint....
[10:29] <muelli> linuxlover: #conky
[10:29] <Simon1245> Hey guys, I'm trying to install a game using Wine but it's asking me to store it somewhere, where should I install it to? I got it installed on Windows already on c:/program files/..
[10:30] <jiltdil> i am trying to ping my friend but from my system it is not pinging any reason?
[10:30] <crizzy> Simon1245: ~/.wine or ~/.c_drive or somesuch folder
[10:30] <dr_willis> Simon1245:  let it install to the normal ~/.wine/win_c dir
[10:30] <Simon1245> dr_willis, crizzy thanks guys, I'll try to find it :)
[10:31] <linuxlover> muelli I am asking there but they all might be sleeping [maybe partying without me] hehehehe :(
[10:31] <dfcnvt> Good morning
[10:31] <muelli> linuxlover: sorry dude. This is not the right place for you.
[10:31] <cloudgeek> !free
[10:32] <ActionParsnip> Simon1245: just pick the defaults in the game ionstaller, it will be fine
[10:32] <linuxlover> its the right place muelli
[10:32] <cloudgeek> ActionParsnip: how use free command in human-readable form
[10:32] <dr_willis> with conky - try out the 1000s of configs out there and learn from them is what i always do. conky forums also help
[10:32] <Simon1245> ActionParsnip, It wants to save on C: But I got it installed on C: directory already I don't wanna overwrite it.
[10:32] <dr_willis> free -h  ?
[10:32] <dr_willis> Simon1245:  wine uses a virtual windows drive in the .wine dir...
[10:32] <Simon1245> I'm using dualboot or whatever you call it, got both Windows nad Linux installed into the computer.
[10:33] <cloudgeek> dr_willis: nope that is not working with -h
[10:33] <dr_willis> Simon1245:  unless you changed it..
[10:33] <dr_willis> Simon1245:  wine does not use your windows installed stuff normally.
[10:33] <foenix> dr_willis: have a pleasant day and wish me luck
[10:33] <ActionParsnip> Simon1245: its the 'C:' of wine, not your windows partition#
[10:33] <freeway_> please pals i need ur help in skype
[10:33] <dr_willis> Simon1245:  you Might be able to run the windows app from the actual windows partion.  if you want to try it.
[10:33] <ActionParsnip> Simon1245: it will be installed in ~/.wine/drive_c
[10:34] <freeway_> my skype refuse to load in unbuntu 11.10
[10:34] <freeway_> any haelp
[10:34] <Simon1245> ActionParsnip, dr_willis it says: C:\Program Files\Rockstar Games, you guys sure as I got a lot of mods installed on Windows don't want it replaced :D
[10:34] <Halexander9000> Can anyone here help me with a Minecraft Problem?
[10:35] <dr_willis> Simon1245:  try running it from that location.  it might work..
[10:35] <ActionParsnip> Simon1245: its goes in to Wine, not windows.
[10:35] <dr_willis> Simon1245:  or install it to your normal .wine/ dir  by default it goes there. and you will have to reinstall all the other stuff as well..
[10:35] <Simon1245> dr_willis, I'll try installing it like you guys said and lets see what happens, ActionParsnip alrihgt let me try
[10:36] <freeway_> HY SHASHA
[10:36] <dr_willis> Simon1245:   or let it install to .wine/ then copy your other full installed game dir to the .wine/whatever :) to clone the install.
[10:36] <fabianvampiro> BackBox is a Linux distribution based on Ubuntu.   http://www.backbox.org/
[10:36] <Lint> Simon1245, does the game run from its windows location without installing?
[10:36] <ActionParsnip> Simon1245: you should also have your 'mods' backed up
[10:36] <Simon1245> dr_willis, Oh that would be possible?
[10:37] <Simon1245> Lint, I haven't tried playing it on Linux yet, I thought it wouldn't be possible so I was trying to install it
[10:37] <dr_willis> !appdb
[10:37] <dr_willis> Simon1245:  when in doubt check the wine app database
[10:38] <michelem> hello folks
[10:38] <fabianvampiro> ActionParsnip: BackBox is a Linux distribution based on Ubuntu.   http://www.backbox.org/
[10:38] <mahsom> What is this display manager : http://linuxsysconfig.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/02/desktop2.png
[10:38] <Simon1245> dr_willis, I was there but didn't read much in there to be honet
[10:38] <ActionParsnip> fabianvampiro: yes 'BASED' on Ubuntu
[10:39] <ActionParsnip> fabianvampiro: it's not ubuntu, ubuntu is based on Debian but if you ask for Ubuntu support in #debian you will be told to ask here
[10:39] <fabianvampiro> ok
[10:39] <fabianvampiro> thanks
[10:39] <crizzy> first of all debian compiles all of their packages with completely different compile flags.. which alone is a big difference
[10:39] <ActionParsnip> fabianvampiro: NONE of the ubuntu spinoffs you can name are supported here, like backtrack, minuxmcs, mint, pinguyos and many more
[10:39] <Simon1245> Oh and is there any way to make linux "my docoumets" update with the changes I do at Windows and same way that Linux changes on my documents happens at Windows?'
[10:39] <Simon1245> opps, accidently got closed.
[10:39] <michelem> what are release policies for packages in LTS? I need twistedmatrix 10.1+, which is not available in the main source nor backports. Any hope to get it in the near future or shall I just install from sources?
[10:40] <dr_willis> Simon1245:  you could mount your windows partiion, and link the folders via ln -s, or the ubuntu /file manager settings
[10:40] <Omar> hi
[10:40] <sun__> hi
[10:40] <Omar> How are you ? !
[10:40] <Omar> How is your day ?
[10:40] <sun__> fine
[10:40] <ActionParsnip> Simon1245: if you have your NTFS partition mount via fstab, you can symlink from your my docs in the NTFS to a folder in your home folder for easy access
[10:40] <sun__> you learn engliw?
[10:40] <Omar> Cool , Glad to hear that
[10:41] <Simon1245> dr_willis, ActionParsnip Any tutorial or something on how to do it? It sounds complicated lol
[10:41] <sun__> есть русские?
[10:41] <sun__> who russian?
[10:41] <dr_willis>    ln -s foo bar   Simon1245  once you know the locations
[10:41] <Omar> Guys do know any good commands that scans for ip or in another word , list the IPs in my network
[10:42] <dr_willis> Omar:  nmap can scan networks
[10:42] <Omar> how ?
[10:42] <dr_willis> theres other tools also.
[10:42] <DJones> !ru | sun__
[10:42] <dr_willis> nmap --help   -> depends on how you want to scan
[10:42] <Omar> scanning for ips
[10:42] <Omar> thats all wat i want
[10:42] <starlon> how can I record what's going through my speakers? I've tried Audacity, but I'm not having much luck.
[10:42] <ActionParsnip> Omar: there are sample nmap codes all over the web
[10:43] <dr_willis> nmap can do a ping scan.
[10:43] <dr_willis> thats quick and simple\
[10:43] <somsip> ubuntu geneate bitcoins
[10:43] <somsip> bum
[10:44] <dr_willis> somsip:  HHuh?
[10:44] <somsip> dr_willis: simple the wrong window
[10:44] <somsip> s/simple/simply. i'll stop now
[10:44] <head_victim> !ping
[10:45] <freeway_> shell programmer here please
[10:45] <dr_willis> bot is alseep
[10:45] <freeway_> @ haed victim what is ping
[10:46] <freeway_> hy chris
[10:46] <md0crap> starlon: win7 mixer?
[10:48] <starlon> md0crap: This is #ubuntu :)
[10:48] <mahsom> What is this display manager : http://linuxsysconfig.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/02/desktop2.png
[10:48] <mahsom> name ?
[10:48] <chromaticwt> what is the best way to do automatic updates?
[10:48] <neant> when using the 32 bit version of Ubuntu, is there a method that could reclaim the unused RAM of my 4 G?
[10:48] <dr_willis> Omar:  no need to msg me. nmap can ping the whole range of ips on your network and report which pcs respond.
[10:49] <MonkeyDust> mahsom  looks like fluxbox or so
[10:49] <mahsom> or so ?!
[10:49] <JacksterD> lol
[10:51] <Lint> neant, PAE
[10:58] <rokyronnie1> I found a program that can show what song is played, it's called Panflute, but when I'm trying to install it, it says I need "python-gnomeapplet" how can I install that in Ubuntu 11.10 ?
[10:58] <dr_willis> check the pacakge manager tools to see if its in the repos
[10:59] <randomnewb> What file do I edit to set up my aliases for the terminal?
[11:00] <overclucker> .bashrc if you use bash
[11:00] <dr_willis> randomnewb:  check the .bashrc or .profile  theres mention of a .bash_alias file you can also use.
[11:00] <yashshah> randomnewb: there is .bashrc
[11:00] <dr_willis> one file has some example alias's.   you can put a few in there. Or you can seperate them all out into their own file.
[11:01] <michelem> how to tell apt-cache and apt-get to operate on a specific repository?
[11:03] <ActionParsnip> chromaticwt: I use a script in cron (cron'd as root) presonally
[11:04] <Need> Help my ubuntu wont boot it goes to some terminal screen
[11:05] <ActionParsnip> mahsom: +1 for fluxbox
[11:06] <ActionParsnip> Need: what messages do you get?
[11:07] <Euan> help me please
[11:07] <ikonia> Euan: ask a question please.
[11:07] <Euan> whenever i try and launch ubunt it does to a terminal sort of thing
[11:08] <Euan> it wsa working fine a few seconds ago
[11:08] <Euan> hello?
[11:09] <ikonia> hi
[11:09] <Euan> so how can i fix the problem?
[11:09] <Simon1245> Hey guys, I gotta move the game crack into .wine directory, how can I do that through terminal?
[11:09] <ikonia> Euan: I don't know, what has changed between now and when it was working
[11:09] <ikonia> Simon1245: not helping you crack a game, please don't ask again
[11:10] <Euan> nothing, i did do a turn off without going the shut off way
[11:10] <Euan> like i did it with the button
[11:10] <ikonia> Euan: why did you do that
[11:10] <Simon1245> ikonia, Ah alright, not from someone else either or?
[11:10] <FatDude> Euan: Please state the nature of the technical emergency.
[11:10] <Euan> and it boots to a screen that says grub>
[11:10] <MonkeyDust> Simon1245  wrong channel
[11:10] <ikonia> Simon1245: please don't ask again in this channel
[11:10] <Simon1245> ikonia, alright sorry.
[11:10] <Euan> When I attempt to boot Ubuntu from my double boot, it goes into a grub terminal.
[11:10] <Simon1245> MonkeyDust, Sorry
[11:10] <ikonia> Euan: why did you power it off rather than shut it down
[11:11] <FatDude> What are we not allowed to discuss in here?
[11:11] <ikonia> Simon1245: not a problem.
[11:11] <ikonia> FatDude: ubuntu technical support
[11:11] <ikonia> FatDude: check the /topic
[11:11] <Euan> I wasn't paying attention, and accidentally turned it off.
[11:11] <Simon1245> By the way, sometimes my left mouse button stops to work, is that only me or? It works perfectly fine on Windows both the touchpad button and mouse :S
[11:11] <ikonia> Euan: you accidentally pushed and held the power button ?
[11:11] <Euan> I was tired.
[11:12] <Euan> I wasn't paying attention.
[11:12] <ikonia> Euan: you've probably corrupted your install or damaged your disk then
[11:12] <Euan> How can I fix that?
[11:12] <ikonia> Euan: if it's dropping to the grub shell it means it can't see the disk, which is possibly because you've damaged the disk powering it off
[11:12] <Euan> the windows 7 is working fine
[11:12] <viddy> more likely the filesystem, no? :i
[11:12] <Euan> both on the same hard drive
[11:13] <ikonia> Euan: then it falls to the file system being damaged
[11:13] <viddy> just do a fsck on that thing
[11:13] <MonkeyDust> yes
[11:13] <viddy> and the world will be a better place
[11:13] <ikonia> Euan: if the file system was just messy, I'd still expect it to start to boot, but warn you that the file system needed fscking
[11:13] <ikonia> the fact that it's refusing to even show the grub menu
[11:13] <MonkeyDust> Euan  try to boot in recovery mode, choose fsck and repair
[11:13] <Euan> how do I do that
[11:14] <MonkeyDust> Euan  in the grub menu
[11:14] <Euan> what should i type in
[11:14] <Euan> it's a terminal sort of thing
[11:14] <ikonia> he doesn't get the grub menu - it just drops to the grub shell
[11:14] <MonkeyDust> Euan  ctrl-alt-dlete
[11:14] <MonkeyDust> ah
[11:14] <MonkeyDust> not even a menu, that's tough
[11:14] <ikonia> thats why I don't think it's a simple fsck case
[11:15] <dr_willis> what's the shells prompt Euan.  it could be grub.  or busybox
[11:15] <ActionParsnip> Euan: of you cn fsck from liveCD
[11:16] <spitzi> Hello. I have 2 harddisks, one with XP + old Ubuntu, one with Ubuntu 11.10 + Win 7. The second used to also have Vista, but yesterday I deleted the Vista partition and resized the Win 7 partition over the redeemed space, all through gparted in Ubuntu 11. Then, I invoked update-grub2, and it didn't recognize a bootable Win7 anymore. How can I fix this ? Thanks.
[11:17] <MonkeyDust> sounds like a destroyed win7 partition to me
[11:18] <Euan> liveCD?
[11:18] <Euan> its grub
[11:18] <Euan> grub>
[11:18] <Euan> thats what it says on the side
[11:18] <dr_willis> so you may want to fsck.  then reinstall grub from a livecd
[11:18] <infinee> Hi, can someone help me compile or install wxwidgets on 11.10? I dl'd the src and during 'configure' it complains that it can't find GTK+ >- 2.0.0 but I have GTK3 installed
[11:19] <ActionParsnip> Euan: yes but it can be done from the same CD you installed with...
[11:19] <MonkeyDust> !info wxwidgets
[11:21] <infinee> !info wxwidgets
[11:22] <MonkeyDust> it's for developpers
[11:22] <infinee> i know it is, I need it to build 'erlang'
[11:25] <Lint> I cannot see language selection option in new ubuntu login screen
[11:28] <djota> error while adding x2go repo: ?: keyserver.ubuntu.com: Connection refused. my inet connection is working. any ideas on how to fix that?
[11:29] <infinee> MonkeyDust, i can see this pkg here https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/oneiric/+source/wxwidgets2.8/<IP_ADDRESS>-0ubuntu10
[11:30] <infinee> but "sudo apt-get install wxwidgets2.8" can't locate it
[11:30] <MonkeyDust> apt-get only works if it's in the repos
[11:31] <infinee> MonkeyDust, that page says it's in "component universe" ...which I understood to be *official*
[11:31] <MonkeyDust> lemme chzck
[11:31] <MonkeyDust> e
[11:33] <MonkeyDust> infinee  try sudo apt-get install wx-common
[11:33] <infinee> MonkeyDust, ok that worked. let me try my erlang build again. thanks
[11:34] <FatDude> Netsplit -- please help.
[11:34] <infinee> MonkeyDust, mind showing me how you figured out it was wx-common? :)
[11:34] <ikonia> FatDude: what ?
[11:35] <FatDude> ikonia: I saw a lot of "Connection reset by peer" in my terminal.
[11:35] <MonkeyDust> infinee  in a terminal, i did apt-cache search wxwidgets
[11:35] <ikonia> FatDude: ok , so why are you typing "help" ? what do you expect anyone in this channel to do ?
[11:35] <infinee> MonkeyDust: hrm my erlang configure still can't find wxwidgets.
[11:36] <MonkeyDust> infinee  use my trick, you're more skilled than i am, so maybe you find something more useful
[11:36] <infinee> oh cool "apt-cache"! i've always needed that. I usually use "dpkg -l | grep porn" when I'm looking for stuff but I'm never confident if dpkg and apt-get are linked
[11:37] <FatDude> ikonia: Well, I suppose you have a point.
[11:38] <infinee> monkeydust: found it! libwxgtk2.8-dev
[11:38] <infinee> thanks buddy
[11:38] <MonkeyDust> infinee  apt-cache search erlang|less
[11:38] <MonkeyDust> ah
[11:38] <djota> anybody?
[11:39] <ubernoob> hi
[11:40] <RawProduce> how can I downgrade MySQL to 5.0.45? I can't seem to find a .deb on google
[11:40] <MonkeyDust> !downgrade
[11:41] <ubernoob> I have a multiboot system with W7, Ubuntu, F16 and Debian Squeeze. Ubuntu and F16 share a swap partition (even though I set up Ubuntu to have its own, it "took it over, during the install"). What I want to know is, would it be safe to remove F16 and the swap partition (I plan to install PCBSD)?
[11:43] <RawProduce> so there's no way to downgrade MySQL? Will I need to compile it from source
[11:43] <RawProduce> ?
[11:44] <alerinaldi> RawProduce: you should remove it and then install it from older DEBs
[11:44] <alerinaldi> but I just joined, so I don't know exactly what you need
[11:44] <alerinaldi> I could be wrong
[11:45] <overclucker> ubernoob: it;s safe to remove it. you might also want to remove the swap line on any /etc/fstab that tries to use it on boot
[11:45] <overclucker> ubernoob: but nothing will break if it's not there
[11:45] <djota> ubernoob: you may consider using virtualization, like virtualbox f.e.
[11:46] <ubernoob> thanks overclucker
[11:46] <RawProduce> alerinaldi: how can I specify that I want to install an old DEB?
[11:47] <ubernoob> djota, I've never used any virtualisation on Linux. I always assumed my system would be too low-spec for truly realising the benefits of having a virtual machine
[11:47] <RawProduce> ah, nvm
[11:47] <ubernoob> I only have 4GB of ram and this is an old Athlon x2
[11:47] <alerinaldi> RawProduce: you'll need to manually download it
[11:47] <djota> ubernoob: you don't need a lot of resources for virtualbox, it's performance is really great, and the software is free
[11:47] <FatDude> RawProduce: Please locate an older DEB version of the package in question and execute 'dpkg -i something.deb'
[11:48] <overclucker> ubernoob: only? that's more than enough to warrant not using swap
[11:48] <i_is_broke> ubernoob, ive ran vbox on an old p3
[11:48] <i_is_broke> with 1gig of ram
[11:48] <RawProduce> alerinaldi: the problem is, googling for that package doesn't yield any downloadable packages
[11:48] <ubernoob> djota, well I guess if I'm going to play around with Linux, I might try that approach first.
[11:48] <RawProduce> unless I'm looking in the wrong places
[11:48] <alerinaldi> RawProduce: try to search "Details of package mysql-server"
[11:48] <alerinaldi> you will find the information page of the package of older distros
[11:48] <djota> man, nobody can help with that launchpad issue?
[11:49] <overclucker> ubernoob: you can use a swap file instead, of a swap partition if you still want swap
[11:49] <RawProduce> alerinaldi: thanks, getting some hits on that
[11:49] <alerinaldi> RawProduce: np! remember to download the dependencies, too!
[11:49] <ubernoob> overclucker, I set up swap partitions out of habit, as the install pretty much asks me to arrange partitions I arrange all the ones I used to do when I first tried Linux.
[11:49] <ubernoob> overclucker, doesn't that affect performance?
[11:50] <ubernoob> I thought having a swap partition was better than the windows style swap files?
[11:50] <overclucker> ubernoob: dd if=/dev/zero of=/swapfile bs=1M count=1000; mkswap /swapfile would give you a1 gig swap file on /
[11:50] <ubernoob> ok, well I'm going to give VirtualBox a go first, then if I feel I still need to, I'll scrub F16 and Debian and install PCBSD properly.
[11:51] <Lint> I cannot see language selection option in new ubuntu login screen
[11:51] <overclucker> ubernoob: there shouldn't be any performance loss
[11:51] <Lint> ubernoob, it doesn't matter, all filesystem calculations are made faster than drive operates
[11:51] <parapan> hi there fellows > is there anyone able to support some sql/perl problems ??
[11:52] <ubernoob> overclucker, whilst we're talking about swap files/partitions, is there any situation in which having them actually makes your system slower?
[11:54] <overclucker> ubernoob: overly high vmswappiness can affect system performance
[11:55] <ubernoob> overclucker: so on a 4GB system, what would you say is the ideal size?
[11:57] <overclucker> ubernoob: 60 is  default, is probably a good number for that amount of ram
[11:57] <phix> back
[11:57] <phix> 60 what?
[11:57] <overclucker> vmswappiness
[11:58] <phix> ah, I usually assign 50 - 60Gb to swap, and make /tmp and /var/tmp tmpfs :)  10 or so Gb each
[11:58] <overclucker> it's probably only worth messing with if you have 1 gig or less
[11:58] <ubernoob> wow, that's rather high.
[11:58] <Canis__> Is there a way to stop a live cd/usb from downloading the language packs while installing...other than disconnetcing from the Internet?
[11:59] <phix> Canis__: Not that i Know of
[11:59] <Guest71832> Anybody running Jolicloud?
[11:59] <overclucker> phix: huh? swappiness or swap size?
[11:59] <RawProduce> Canis__: edit /etc/hosts and set whatever URL it's looking for to localhost
[11:59] <ActionParsnip> phix: 50Gb, how much RAM do you have?
[11:59] <Canis__> Hmmmm
[11:59] <Ben64> Guest71832: A high percentage of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..." Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out? See also !details, !gq, and !poll.
[12:00] <overclucker> phix: if you have 60 gig swap, that's rather excessive
[12:00] <phix> ActionParsnip: 8Gb
[12:00] <ActionParsnip> Guest71832: jolicloud is offtopic here
[12:00] <XATRIX> hi guys...i've got some problem with my system... it's running but it has some malfunctions. actually when i do most of the commands, it gives me #/sbin/ifconfig - bash: /sbin/ifconfig: No such file or directory (but all of the files are there... just for example if i do #du -hs /sbin/ifconfig it gives me  32K /sbin/ifconfig
[12:00] <Canis__> I'll check that. Thanks
[12:00] <ActionParsnip> phix: then you'll only need 8Gb swap
[12:00] <XATRIX> what can i do in such situation
[12:00] <Guest71832> I know, Just wondering
[12:00] <phix> ActionParsnip: nah I 50 - 100Gb for swap as I mount /tmp and /var/tmp as tmpfs (which uses swap too)
[12:00] <RawProduce> lol what, so /tmp is in RAM while RAM isn't full, then you load some programs, max out your RAM and are forced to wait for /tmp to swap out?
[12:00] <Ben64> XATRIX: why are you running everything as root?
[12:01] <RawProduce> that makes so little sense
[12:01] <phix> RawProduce: yup
[12:01] <omido> Hi . How can i find if Ubuntu 10.04 is supported on my laptop and everything would work?
[12:01] <RawProduce> am I missing something?
[12:01] <jpds> omido: Use a Live CD?
[12:01] <chromaticwt> is freeciv multiplayer
[12:01] <overclucker> i've got 8 gigs of ram, and dont even use swap, i've usually got at least half of my ram free anyways
[12:01] <chromaticwt> ?
[12:01] <Ben64> omido: easiest way would be to use a live cd
[12:01] <phix> RawProduce: well it doesn't swap out all of it, only what it needs
[12:01] <RawProduce> phix: surely it's better to avoid swapping altogether?
[12:01] <phix> RawProduce: how so?  makes sense to me
[12:02] <Ben64> 50GB swap is hugely excessive
[12:02] <RawProduce> eh, different strokes I guess
[12:02] <phix> Ben64: not if your using it
[12:02] <XATRIX> Ben64: because i'm have no accounts there
[12:02] <Canis__> There is no hosts file in the 11.04 .iso That I have.
[12:02] <Ben64> if you're* using it, something is wrong
[12:02] <XATRIX> only root acc..
[12:02] <phix> Ben64: It works fine for me
[12:02] <Ben64> XATRIX: try just "ifconfig"
[12:03] <RawProduce> Canis__: I imagine that that file would be somewhere on the RAMFS it sets up
[12:03] <XATRIX> the same... file or directory not found
[12:03] <RawProduce> Canis__: I'm speculating at this point :)
[12:03] <mun> hi
[12:03] <Ben64> phix: if you need 58GB of memory and you only have 8GB of real memory, something is terribly terribly wrong
[12:03] <Ben64> XATRIX: ls -l /sbin/ifconfig
[12:03] <mun> i'm partitioning my drive in preparation to installing windows and ubuntu. does it matter the order of the partitions? e.g., could /home come last?
[12:03] <Canis__> So instead of chosing to install right away, just go from there?  I didn't think about that.
[12:04] <Ben64> mun: doesn't matter, but windows should be installed first or you will have to fix grub
[12:04] <mun> BedMan, ok
[12:04] <XATRIX> Ben64: i told you, most of my commands don't work bash: /bin/ls : No such file or directory
[12:04] <RawProduce> Canis__: do you mean booting into a live environment first, editing /etc/hosts then kicking off the installer?
[12:05] <Lint> I cannot see language selection option in new ubuntu login screen, why everyone's ignoring me?
[12:05] <rayden_> hi all, can someone tell me how do i change user from terminal to root ?
[12:05] <mun> Ben64, do you know why https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PartitioningSchemes says the extended partition for Linux *must* be last?
[12:05] <Ben64> XATRIX: then.... reinstall? : /
[12:05] <Lint> mun, it's not
[12:05] <Lint> worked file for me being in the middle of the table
[12:05] <Lint> *fine
[12:05] <omido> My laptop is a Lenovo Thinkpad SL510 with Intel core2dou t9600- 4gb ram- ATI mobilty radeon HD 4500 (256 mb)
[12:06] <overclucker> rayden_: sudo -i; but be careful
[12:06] <Ben64> mun: windows might have some problems booting if it is too far in the drive maybe
[12:06] <llutz> mun: makes partition-layout more clear but has no technical reason
[12:06] <omido> I want to install ubuntu 10.04 64bit
[12:06] <mun> ok. thanks
[12:06] <Lint> Ben64, it's FUD from NT4 times
[12:06] <rayden_> overclucker,  why carefull
[12:06] <overclucker> rayden_: if  you only have a few commands to run as root prefix them with sudo
[12:07] <overclucker> rayden_: as root you can alter the system, not just your user files
[12:07] <rayden_> works .. thx a lot
[12:07] <CasmoNL> Hi, even after removing sendmail (with apt-get, running Ubuntu 10.04), it's still running, is there any way to completely disable it? Googling didn't help me that much..
[12:08] <XATRIX> Ben64: it's not a good idea to
[12:08] <rayden_> overclucker,  can u tell me how to run .bat files?
[12:08] <Ben64> XATRIX: if you can't even ls, the system is pretty messed up
[12:08] <XATRIX> i'd like to fix it... reinstall is only way for MS users
[12:08] <mun> so is each home and root a separate partition?
[12:08] <Ben64> XATRIX: do you know what you did to break it?
[12:09]  * Lint facepalms
[12:09] <Ben64> mun: it can be
[12:09] <mun> as in, separate primary paritions?
[12:09] <overclucker> rayden_: windows batch files?
[12:09] <rayden_> overclucker, yes
[12:09] <rayden_> overclucker, i want to start a windows server for a game
[12:09] <overclucker> rayden_: not sure how useful they will be on linux
[12:10] <XATRIX> Ben64: i'm not sure... but i have some feeling it was hacked off
[12:10] <overclucker> rayden_: check out wine, or virtualbox
[12:10] <mun> are there particular benefits if /home and / are logical partitions inside an extended partition?
[12:10] <ubernoob> ok, downloaded virtualbox, found a video showing how to install W7 on virtualbox, I figure PCBSD should install in much the same way.
[12:10] <Ben64> XATRIX: without knowing the best solution is reinstall...
[12:10] <ubernoob> really surprised at how low the memory allowance is
[12:10] <llutz> XATRIX: if a system was hacked, reinstallation from clean media is the only way to go
[12:10] <ubernoob> seems very strange
[12:11] <ubernoob> anyway, thanks all.
[12:11] <ubernoob> hope this works :)
[12:11] <Lint> XATRIX, if you suspect you've been hacked, you should format your system and redeploy everything
[12:11] <llutz> mun: just the benefit not to worry about partition count limitation (max 4 primaries)
[12:11] <Canis__> Yes, that's what I meant.  I'm just waking up still.  Horrible at complete thoughts.
[12:11] <mun> llutz, right. do you know why Extended partition is greyed out in my gparted?
[12:12] <llutz> mun no
[12:12] <Ben64> its always good to have an extended partition so you can add more if you want later
[12:12] <mun> Ben64, could the windows and linux partitions site inside an extended partition?
[12:13] <Lint> mun sure thing
[12:14] <Lint> mun but windows need to have an active primary partition to boot from
[12:14] <mun> Lint, right. so does that mean windows has to be on its own primary partition then?
[12:15] <Lint> no, it requires a small primary partition, just several megabytes. everyhting else may be placed in extended partition
[12:15] <Lint> mun windows 7 creates 100MB boot partition by default
[12:16] <omido> Lint:  Windows 7 is awesome
[12:16] <omido> Ubuntu is a windows 7 wanna be
[12:16] <mun> Lint, so can I just leave some unallocated space or do i need to create that primary partition?
[12:17] <Squarism> is there any command within "terminal" that copies whats on the prompt onto the "clipboard" ?
[12:17] <Lint> mun you need to create it and made active one, so that windows installer could reuse it
[12:17] <Dr_willis> Squarism:  ive seen command line clipbord tools in the repos.
[12:17] <ActionParsnip> omido: why would anything want to be anything like Win7?
[12:17] <Squarism> Dr_willis, oh.. thanks
[12:17] <mun> Lint, i see.
[12:17] <Lint> ActionParsnip, because windows 7 is THE OS
[12:18] <Dr_willis> Squarism:  or you can just select, and middle click to paste.
[12:18] <ActionParsnip> Lint: depends on needs
[12:18] <Dr_willis> Squarism:  most terminal apps have the copy/paste items also
[12:18] <phix> Lint: not nesseccary unless you are using encryption or LVM
[12:18] <CasmoNL> Lint, you can get rid of the 100MB partition at install :P
[12:18] <Squarism> Dr_willis, required a mouse !! =(
[12:18] <omido> ActionParsnip:  Cause its a very good product and a true commercial success. you cant even imagine how much profit MS wons out of Win7
[12:18] <Squarism> i wanna be mouseless
[12:18] <CasmoNL> Lint: start install, create partition, remove partition, extend 100mb partition to full, et voila. ;)
[12:18] <bazhang> !ot
[12:18] <phix> Dr_willis, Dr_willis.  Dr_willis, Dr_willis, oh oh Dr_willis!
[12:18] <Ben64> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!
[12:19] <bazhang> omido, this is support only. lets take chit chat to #ubuntu-offtopic
[12:19] <mun> how do you check if a partition is an extended partition in gparted?
[12:19] <Dr_willis> Squarism:  you mean the 'console' ? or a X terminal?
[12:19] <Ben64> mun: the partition number is >4
[12:20] <DJones> bazhang: Ubotto is dead at the minute, its been mentioned in the relevant channels
[12:20] <Lint> it has type of '5'
[12:20] <Squarism> Dr_willis, console called "Terminal" in ubuntu
[12:20] <mun> Ben64, right. the one i'm looking at sdb1 so it can't be an extended one, right?
[12:20] <Ben64> mun: correct
[12:20] <FatDude> Please revive Ubotto as soon as possible.
[12:20] <Squarism> Dr_willis, where you run bash right =D
[12:20] <Dr_willis> Squarism:  the Console is the Alt-ctrl-f1 through f6 Consoles...
[12:21] <Dr_willis> Squarism:  under X  you run terminal-emulators to get a 'terminal'
[12:21] <mun> right. so somehow gparted isn't letting me create an extended one. do i have to boot using the live cd to do it? it's a second drive on my machine.
[12:21] <Lint> in gparted it has a distinct color and
[12:21] <krivc> i have a problem with setting up samba, i cant see my lubuntu computer on windows 7 network
[12:21] <overclucker> Squarism: ctrl+alt+f7 will bring you back to desktop
[12:21] <Ben64> mun: you should be able to do it from your installed version, as long as nothing from that drive is mounted
[12:21] <sattu94> What happened to Ubottu ?
[12:21] <ActionParsnip> krivc: if you run:  smbtree   on the samba server, do you see the shares listed?
[12:21] <mun> Ben64, the drive is already unmounted.
[12:21] <Lint> krivc, when you using \\<IP>, does it work?
[12:22] <ufk> hi
[12:22] <ufk> does gajim supports facebook chat ?
[12:22] <krivc> Server requested LM password but 'client lanman auth' is disabled
[12:22] <krivc> failed tcon_X with ERRnoaccess
[12:22] <Squarism> overclucker, =D..  hehe.. been there before... im glad i had ircii to get help in getting back
[12:22] <bazhang> DJones, thanks
[12:22] <krivc> this i get when i run smbtree
[12:22] <ActionParsnip> krivc: use a pastebn for it please :)
[12:22] <jatt> don't do it
[12:23] <jatt> no
[12:23] <Lint> krivc, it's not windows 7 error
[12:23] <krivc> how i use pastebn, i am new to irc :)
[12:23] <Lint> krivc, is server your lubuntu or windows machine?
[12:24] <krivc> lubuntu
[12:24] <Ben64> krivc: you go to pastebin.com, paste whatever you want there, and hit "Submit"
[12:24] <overclucker> krivc: then post only the url to the paste
[12:25] <Simon1245> Hey guys, how can I get the ATI crystal thing on ubuntu?
[12:25] <ActionParsnip> krivc: go to http://pastie.org  paste your test there, when the page changes, copy the URL and paste that in the channel
[12:26] <ActionParsnip> !ati | Simon1245
[12:26] <Lint> which linux bootloader fill fit on floppy?
[12:26] <krivc> smbtree: http://pastebin.com/N31zJiSu
[12:26] <omido> !ati
[12:26] <i_is_broke> Lint, lilo
[12:26] <Dr_willis> krivc:  theres also the findsmb command.
[12:27] <Lint> MYNAME is lubuntu machine?
[12:27] <i8x4> Anyone else but me loose most their keybindings with the compiz 0.9.7 update in precise?
[12:27] <krivc> Lint: no
[12:28] <krivc> findsmb return only: <IP_ADDRESS>     gateway.home
[12:28] <cambazz> hello how do I install a .deb file that I have downloaded
[12:28] <dlentz> cambazz, dpkg -i
[12:28] <i8x4> cambazz: sudo dpkg -i
[12:28] <Lint> cambazz, dpkg -i --force-depends <name>
[12:28] <dlentz> Lint, force-depends could be dangerous
[12:29] <ActionParsnip> krivc: what is the name of the system you are on?
[12:29] <spitzi> See ya.
[12:29] <krivc> rocket
[12:30] <ActionParsnip> krivc: hmm, should see itself at least, is samba running?
[12:30] <Lint> krivc, what computer is 'MYNAME'?
[12:31] <Metaphysicist> Is it possible to write a custom udev rule to always force a mounting point from a certain drive (SAS, SATA, w/e) controller in a uniform way. i.e. the boot drive will always mount at /dev/sda, and then the second SAS port always mount on /dev/sdb, etc?
[12:31] <Lint> krivc, is that some device like NIS and not computer?
[12:32] <krivc> Lint: i dont know, my windows machine is Cobra and lubuntu is Rocket
[12:32] <Lint> *NAS
[12:32] <ActionParsnip> Metaphysicist: you don't mount at /dev/sda   /dev/sda is a block device in of itself
[12:32] <ActionParsnip> krivc: can the system ping itself?
[12:32] <Lint> krivc, do you have SMB enabled in the firewall on lubuntu?
[12:33] <Metaphysicist> ActionParsnip: Sorry, I mean /dev/sda1, sda2, etc.
[12:33] <ericus> Which ultrabook would you recommend for use with ubuntu?
[12:33] <krivc> Lint: i can be NIS because no computer has name MYNAME on my network
[12:33] <krivc> it *
[12:33] <Viman> Anyone with LXDE can help me? My Alt-F2 keybinding recently has stopped working.
[12:33] <ActionParsnip> Metaphysicist: yes, those are block devices too..
[12:34] <ActionParsnip> Viman: if you press it twice, does it show?
[12:34] <Viman> no
[12:34] <krivc> ActionParsnip: yes i can ping myself
[12:34] <Dr_willis> ericus:  those things are so new. its hard to tell. check reviews and web sites. and id avoid any that use that dual-gpu feature.
[12:34] <Viman> i have to go menu->run
[12:34] <ActionParsnip> krivc: is samba running on the server?
[12:34] <Metaphysicist> ActionParsnip: I just want the ability to correlate a port on the controller to a mounting point in Ubuntu, do you have any tips in that regard?
[12:34] <Metaphysicist> And to do it the same every time.
[12:35] <ActionParsnip> Metaphysicist: you can use:  sudo blkid    and mount using the UUID
[12:35] <krivc> ActionParsip: how can i test this?
[12:35] <Metaphysicist> ActionParsnip: Thank you!
[12:35] <ericus> okay Dr_willis. I need to replace my old netbook
[12:35] <ActionParsnip> krivc: sudo service smbd status    should do it
[12:35] <Dr_willis> ericus:  i just bought a new netbook on clearance :)   Gotta love portable machines.
[12:35] <angel282> Hello I would like to backup my entire server (including the filesystem) so if something will happens to my server hdd I will be able to restore everything. I found on the documentation a tar command but does it backup also the syste, file?
[12:36] <Metaphysicist> angel1282: Is RAID not an option?
[12:36] <RawProduce> angel282: use Norton Ghost or something similar
[12:36] <ericus> what model Dr_willis?
[12:36] <krivc> yes samba is running: smbd start/running, process 657
[12:36] <Viman> when I run `lxpanelctl run` nothing happens, either
[12:36] <Viman> not even an error message
[12:37] <Dr_willis> ericus:  just a asus on sale.
[12:37] <ericus> I need one with good battery life
[12:37] <ericus> eee pc?
[12:37] <Dr_willis> buy a bigger battery if you want it for a netbook. :) or a spare.
[12:37] <JuJuBee> When I mounted my external USB HD I got some errors at CLI but eventually it mounted (about 2 minutes) and seems ok.  What does this mean?  http://pastebin.com/MbCtbCZw
[12:37] <DJones> !ping
[12:37] <angel282> RawProduce: I preferring to use some command without installing third-party applications, does the tar command will backup also the filesystem (kernel etc...)
[12:38] <angel282> ?
[12:38] <melvincv> Hi all. How do I use tar to take a backup of a directory tree, to a tar.gz file, without the whole directory tree appearing in the archive? I gave the command # tar -cvzpf test.tar.gz /home/melvin/new/*            and got a tree structure in the archive, starting from / ??? I need just the tree structure from the folder backed up.
[12:38] <ActionParsnip> ericus: http://arrasthemes.com/2011/12/the-acer-aspire-s3-putting-the-%E2%80%98ultra%E2%80%99-in-ultrabooks/
[12:38] <ActionParsnip> ericus: seems to say it runs well
[12:38] <Dr_willis> ericus:  problem with a lot of new laptops is the lninux kernel and pwoer saveings features have not caught up with the new hardware out. or have bugs. so your battery life maybe much worse under ubuntu/linux.
[12:39] <ericus> i have looked into that, looks nice ActionPartnership
[12:39] <krivc> Lint: my iptables is empty, should i add samba there?
[12:39] <ericus> yeah i know Dr_willis
[12:40] <ActionParsnip> melvincv: try: cd $HOME; tar cvzpf test.tar.gz ./new/*
[12:41] <ActionParsnip> ericus: shame its an intel cpu
[12:41] <RawProduce> angel282: yes, tar will backup the kernel
[12:41] <RawProduce> but not the bootloader
[12:41] <RawProduce> you probably want to use dd
[12:42] <RawProduce> angel282: http://www.linuxweblog.com/dd-image
[12:42] <krivc> i can ping my lubuntu machine from windows, but i cant ping windows machine from lubuntu, how can it be posssible?
[12:43] <Dr_willis> krivc:  windows firewall.
[12:44] <Dr_willis> ive seen soumd routers also have wireless networks locked down more then a wired network on same router
[12:44] <Walther> Is there a way to remove the entire graphical interface from Ubuntu? I want to have a CLI-only Ubuntu install, but ALT CD did not work properly
[12:44] <Engin> hello, how do i get the functionality of "System/Hardware Drivers" from command line ?
[12:45] <melvincv> ActionParsnip, I'm getting . > new > files. I need files directly, any ideas?
[12:45] <Walther> Is there a metapackage I could remove which would have all the dependencies
[12:45] <Walther> Already tried removing unity and ubuntu.desktop
[12:45] <Dr_willis> Walther:  removeing meta-packages dosent really remove stuff that way.
[12:45] <Lint> krivc, when you opening \\<lubuntu's IP address> from win7, what's happening
[12:45] <Walther> Dr_willis: but shouldn't other packages depend on them and auto-remove remove them?
[12:46] <RawProduce> Walther: try Debian :)
[12:46] <Dr_willis> Walther:   it never seems to work that way. like with 'ubuntu-desktop' meta package.
[12:46] <Walther> Not willing to try Debian now
[12:46] <Walther> So, any ideas?
[12:46] <Dr_willis> Walther:  odd the alt-cd disent work. theres the minimal cd.. or check askubuntu.com they most likely have some ansqer/script to do it
[12:46] <RaydeN_> is there a way to install yahoo messenger to ubuntu?
[12:46] <ericus>  /win 3
[12:46] <Dr_willis> i keep the desktop stuff on my headless server  for my vnc/ssh needs.
[12:46] <ActionParsnip> melvincv: not sure, I've always used GUI to compress TBH
[12:47] <Walther> Dr_willis: It didn't recognise my wireless card, hence the install didn't have any networking
[12:47] <Dr_willis> RaydeN_:  theres im clients that can do Yahoo.
[12:47] <RawProduce> RaydeN_: use wine
[12:47] <Dr_willis> Walther:  you can set up wireless via the command line. but ive not done it in ages. My servers are all wired.
[12:47] <konstantin_> hi!
[12:47] <RaydeN_> Dr_willis, ty
[12:47] <RaydeN_> RawProduce, ty
[12:47] <krivc> Lint: i get prompt for user name and password
[12:48] <uni4dfx> Where can I ask about writing Makefiles / autoconf / automake etc... ?
[12:48] <RawProduce> uni4dfx: use cmake, autotools will drive you insane
[12:48] <Lint> krivc, had you created samba accounts for windows users on lubuntu machine?
[12:48] <ActionParsnip> RaydeN_: there used to be a native client made by yahoo, there also used to be gyache
[12:48] <Walther> Dr_willis: Again, it did not install it properly. Modprobing etc did not fix it
[12:48] <krivc> yes i create it with smbpasswd
[12:48] <melvincv> what does the -C option do in tar? man pages seem confusing.
[12:49] <uni4dfx> RawProduce you can say that again, but it's not my choice
[12:49] <monohedron> can somebody give me a pointer to where I can lookup the diffrent font coulours used in the terminal window
[12:49] <monohedron> colors
[12:49] <Lint> krivc, does that password work
[12:49] <ix_> does anyone know how to make the 3d pie chart in libreoffice thinner?
[12:49] <RawProduce> melvincv: probably specifies the working path to extract into
[12:49] <Lint> ix_, #libreoffice
[12:50] <ix_> Lint, I know...
[12:50] <RawProduce> uni4dfx: in that case, I'm sorry for the pain you're about to experience and I have no idea where to find good docs :)
[12:50] <Canis__> What happened to unbuntu over the past 3-4 years?  I remember when you could just "see" NTFS drives and mount them with a right click.  Am I mistaken?
[12:51] <krivc> Lint: yes it work, i can see my shared files, but why i dont see lubuntu machine in network panel
[12:51] <ActionParsnip> Canis__: never had an issue here
[12:53] <Canis__> ActionParsnip: I'm in mint right now, but the same goes for a few of the DTE's.  I mean something that isn't external,
[12:53] <youngho> hello ~
[12:53] <Lint> gufw appears broken ufter upgrade: all its controls are disabled
[12:53] <Walther> Is there a way to remove the entire graphical interface and all gui-dependent programs on ubuntu?
[12:53] <ActionParsnip> Canis__: mint isn't supported here
[12:53] <monohedron> need guide to different colors in Gnome Terminal
[12:53] <melvincv> Is there a sys admin channel? Maybe #ubuntu-server ?
[12:54] <ActionParsnip> Walther: sure, uninstall xorg
[12:54] <Canis__> ...I'm a little slow, please try to forget I asked the question.
[12:54] <Walther> ActionParsnip: already did that, did not remove / make obsolete any GUI-dependent packages
[12:54] <Engin> looks like the hardware driver management tool's name is jockey, but can't see how or if I can access it from command line. Aany ideas ?
[12:55] <aQute> i recently installed ubuntu 12.04 alpha2 and now I am getting an error while install updates something called partial upgrade(can t install all the updates), can anybody tell me how to deal with that ?
[12:55] <n3uron_> engin, not even jokey-gtk?
[12:55] <Engin> n3uron_: i don't have X
[12:55] <n3uron_> ah
[12:56] <Engin> this is a netbook with ubuntu-server on it
[12:56] <Engin> unfortunetely wifi is not working
[12:56] <Engin> but supposed to work with hardware drivers tool.
[12:56] <DJones> aQute: Can you ask that in #ubuntu+1 thats the support channel for 12.04 while its being developed
[12:56] <Walther> aQute: partial upgrades are perfectly normal during alpha releases
[12:56] <ActionParsnip> Walther: you will just need to keep removing xorg based stuf and even gnome lib stuff and eventually the OS will fail deps and the rest will tumble down
[12:56] <aQute> DJones: thanks i' ll do that
[12:56] <Walther> aQute: no need to ask
[12:57] <Engin> maybe i should just enable desktop -- could be of use for some other purposes too
[12:57] <Engin> what is the appropriate way to add dektop environment to ubuntu-server ?
[12:57] <Walther> aQute: I've been using all the versions since 10.04 from alphas :P
[12:57] <aQute> so do u know how to fix it ?
[12:57] <krivc> i allow in/out traffic for my lubuntu machine ip ob windows firewal, but still i cant ping windows machine from lubuntu
[12:58] <FatDude> I'm smoking pot and using Ubuntu Linux.
[12:58] <FatDude> I recommend it.
[12:58] <aQute> its first time for me (pre release installation)
[12:58] <Walther> aQute: just run the partial upgrade
[12:58] <monohedron> where to post screenshots ?
[12:58] <Engin> ubuntu-desktop i suppose
[12:58] <duelle> Hi, is there any chance to recover an encrypted partition when the partitiontable is broken?  My bad.
[13:03] <monohedron> ActionParsnip, nope they all have the same permissions according to ls -l
[13:03] <Myrtti> Lint: in the future it helps if you include the nickname who is troublesome as well with |nick
[13:03] <melvincv> FatDude, Did the cat do that? :D
[13:03] <Walther> Lol. I removed some packages including lightdm, now when I boot, the boot splash stays on tty7 :D
[13:03] <FatDude> melvincv: Well, small kitten.
[13:04] <monohedron> ActionParsnip, I suspect they mey be links or something but I have no idea how to check it
[13:04] <Walther> How can I completely remove X on Ubuntu?
[13:04] <Walther> I mean, CLI would still work, rigth?
[13:04] <RaydeN_> can someone help me to install a game server pls?
[13:05] <krivc> Lint: can be some problems because i have this line in smb.conf: name resolve order = bcast host wins
[13:05] <ActionParsnip> monohedron: ls -l filename  or   file filename
[13:05] <Lint> Walther, it's a part of bootloader
[13:05] <Walther> Lint: Okay, what packages should I remove to have a CLI-only Ubuntu?
[13:05] <Lint> krivc, no, because it's client setting, you're a server now
[13:06] <FatDude> Walther: X11, Gnome, Xfce, KDE.
[13:06] <Lint> Walther, look for 'boot' and 'gfx' in package descriptions
[13:06] <Lint> or 'splash'
[13:06] <monohedron> ActionParsnip, nope they both still show as the same. let me run a find over the disk to see whether they exist somewhere else
[13:06] <Walther> FatDude: will the CLI work without x? keyboard is part of x right?
[13:07] <ActionParsnip> Walther: if you remove all gui apps and x you will boot to a CLI based OS only
[13:07] <Walther> but x11 is not necessary for CLI for example for kb input?
[13:07] <Lint> ActionParsnip, he probably means that grub sets his system in graphics mode
[13:08] <Walther> Lint: no, the splash thing was just a funny sidenote
[13:08] <ActionParsnip> Walther: the cli os will still take keyboard input
[13:08] <Walther> ok
[13:08] <ActionParsnip> Lint: yeah I think thats the dealio :)
[13:08] <Lint> Walther, it's a separate package for console input, and separate for X input
[13:08] <ActionParsnip> Walther: if you add the boot option: text    you will boot CLI only
[13:09] <kbotnen_> Walther, If you dont want X / graphics ubuntu is probably not the distro for you?
[13:09] <Walther> ActionParsnip: sure, but boot splash doesn't annoy me at all
[13:09] <ActionParsnip> Walther: if you want gnome removing you could run:  sudo apt-get --purge remove `dpkg -l | grep gnome`
[13:09] <Walther> kbotnen_: I am familiar with ubuntu, its cli, its repositories, etc
[13:09] <ActionParsnip> Walther: should remove enough
[13:09] <Walther> ActionParsnip: ...or run apt-get remove gnome*
[13:10] <Lint> Walther, you may need 'console-input' package to customize keyboard layouts without X
[13:10] <ActionParsnip> Walther: my command will cover that too, but also remove libgnome and so on
[13:10] <djota> is there any workaround for this problem<EMAIL_ADDRESS>???
[13:11] <Walther> Is there a command to see all the installed software?
[13:11] <Walther> And preferably, grep out the libs (there are tons of libs)
[13:11] <ActionParsnip> Walther: dpkg -l | less
[13:11] <ActionParsnip> Walther: dpkg -l | grep -v lib | less     to NOT see packages with 'lib' in them
[13:12] <Walther> ha, -v inverses, thanks
[13:12] <ActionParsnip> yep in(v)erse
[13:12] <ActionParsnip> is how I remember it
[13:13] <ubernoob> hi, is it normal for VirtualBox to take ages to install an OS from disc? I'm only 3% of the way through an installation of PCBSD9 and it seems to be dragging on inordinately. I did select a lot of packages but, I think there should have been more progress than this.
[13:13] <ikonia> ubernoob: can be depending on your machine, the host, the guests config etc
[13:13] <Walther> ActionParsnip: -l lists all packages, how to see only the installed ones
[13:13] <ActionParsnip> ubernoob: did you MD5 test the ISO too?
[13:14] <ActionParsnip> Walther: yes, thats why you pipe to grep
[13:14] <alex54321> anyone have installed succesfuly league of legends ?
[13:14] <Walther> ActionParsnip: that removed the libs, but not the ones that are not installed
[13:14] <ubernoob> ActionParsnip, nope, I downloaded it from their mirror and burned it to a disc without doing any checks. I don't think there's anything wrong with the image as such.
[13:14] <djota> ubernoob: that can be kinda normal
[13:15] <ActionParsnip> ubernoob: then how did you know the ISO was complete and consistent?
[13:15] <ubernoob> My hunch is that it's the packages that I've selected, that it's trying to download and is taking a long while doing so.
[13:15] <ActionParsnip> Walther: you can't see the ones that aren't installed
[13:15] <ubernoob> ActionParsnip, good point but tbh I've never burnt an image from there or ubuntu or debian that wasn't working perfectly.
[13:17] <ubernoob> djota, I think it's been 20-30 minutes so far. If this was a windows install, I'd understand as those things can 'hang' for ages before suddenly spurting to the finish, but Linux/FreeBSD usually install at a consistent pace and quickly (overall).
[13:17] <ActionParsnip> ubernoob: if you don't use torrents, the data needs to be checked so you know the data isn't damaged
[13:17] <alex54321> anyone have installed succesfuly league of legends ?
[13:17] <ActionParsnip> ubernoob: I'd give it a while but I'd check the ISO
[13:17] <ubernoob> ActionParsnip, I'll keep that in mind, once this installation completes/falls over.
[13:18] <ActionParsnip> Walther: unless you tell apt-cache to show you every package and grep stuff, it will be a big list
[13:18] <Squarism> Even if i successfully build and link libraries into executables, bod objdump and ldd doesn show them as dependencies in ubuntu 11.10?!
[13:19] <Squarism> both
[13:19] <Squarism> ....instead of bod =D
[13:19] <monohedron> ActionParsnip, once a put the extension in lower case (JPG -> jpg) they turned purple, any idea why ?
[13:19] <Walther> Is there a way to configure mobile broadband on CLI?
[13:20] <ActionParsnip> Walther: well the gui apps are hust GUIs for CLI, so technically yes
[13:20] <alex54321> anyone tell me about league of legends?
[13:21] <ubernoob> what do you guys do for 'fun' with linux/freebsd? I've got my 'work' stuff setup, I want to learn more bash, vi, perl and python, I see so many things that I should know more of but... to be honest, I think I spend a lot of time just dithering and not making genuine progress in the way of learning how to administer, configure, customise and extend my system(s)... What do you chaps (and chapesses?) find to be interesting areas of learning,
[13:21] <ubernoob>  within the FOSS world?
[13:21] <phix> gang
[13:22] <Walther> Does anyone know how to set up mobile broadband in Ubuntu terminal?
[13:24] <ActionParsnip> monohedron: not sure tbh, weird
[13:24] <ejv> this is the support channel ubernoob, i'd ask that question in #ubuntu-offtopic - everyone will have different opinions regarding what's "interesting"
[13:24] <ActionParsnip> Walther: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1192696
[13:25] <ActionParsnip> ubernoob: urbanterror :0
[13:25] <helloer>  Hello, my gnome3 fails to start (i need to gnome-shell --replace to run it). I see in syslog only http://pastebin.com/UixivjAw and when run any app
[13:25] <helloer>                  "GLib-GIO-Message: Using the 'memory' GSettings backend.  Your settings will not be saved or shared with other applications.". How to fix that?:|
[13:25] <helloer> ops,sorry
[13:25] <ubernoob> ejv, yeah sorry. I did think I was going off-topic there.
[13:25] <ActionParsnip> helloer: make a startup item to run the: gnome-shell --replace    command and it will run automagically
[13:26] <alex54321> anyone help me with league of legends?
[13:26] <Metaphysicist> The DD command, is it possible to write ones to a drive and not just zero/random/urandom?
[13:26] <FatDude> Cunt
[13:26] <FatDude> Wrong channel.
[13:26] <helloer> ActionParsnip: But i cant change anything in gnome-tweak-tool for example :\
[13:26] <Lint> cat strikes again?
[13:27] <dat789> does shell games (using terminal) still exist? popular??
[13:27] <ejv> you want ones?
[13:27] <dat789> like role playing etc
[13:27] <ejv> you can echo 0xFF and pipe through DD
[13:27] <ejv> but that's really weird ha
[13:27] <Dr_willis> Metaphysicist:  why would you need to write '1' or - do you mean binary 1111111
[13:27] <ubernoob> ActionParsnip, is that a fps of some sort?
[13:28] <Metaphysicist> I meant binary 1111111
[13:28] <Dr_willis> Metaphysicist:  why do you even need to do this?
[13:28] <ActionParsnip> ubernoob: it is, is counterstrike like but based on the unreal engine :)
[13:28] <Dr_willis> theres disk eraser tools that i belive can do arbitary bit patterns
[13:29] <Metaphysicist> Dr_willis: Trying to come up with a simple three-pass wiping system for internal use at a company.
[13:29] <djota> could somebody tell me how to change the default home dir for _likewise-open_ shell users?
[13:29] <ejv> for some usb devices that don't support erasure, i can see the point in using ones
[13:29] <jatt> simple three-pass wiping is not enough against law enforcement
[13:29] <monohedron> ActionParsnip, echo $LS_COLORS
[13:29] <ubernoob> ActionParsnip, sounds like good fun. Will it work well on an old athlon x2 with an Nvidia GT400 gfx card?
[13:30] <djota> ActionParsnip: i only know tactical ops which runs on unreal engine..
[13:30] <sebastiano> hi, where does ttf-mscorefonts-installer install fonts to? gs is not finding the installed times font
[13:32] <alex54321> anyone help me with league of legends ?
[13:32] <ubernoob> I was hoping to find a decent SNES/Gamecube emulator and some free roms to play, any suggestions as to what to look for in the way of emulators (and where I might find the roms)? I'm guessing that it's not illegal to download vintage games...?
[13:33] <ActionParsnip> ubernoob: runs well on my GF6150LE onboard
[13:33] <djota> ubernoob: google snes emulator
[13:33] <Dr_willis> Metaphysicist:  from the discussions icve seen in here. such measures are not needed. and dont do any good.
[13:33] <jatt> ubernoob: surely you bought the games you are looking roms for
[13:33] <ActionParsnip> ubernoob: with single core sempron am2 @ 1.6Ghz and 2Gb DDR2
[13:33] <jatt> ubernoob: otherwise you might be doing something illegal
[13:33] <Dr_willis> ubernoob:  its technically not legal to just download them.
[13:33] <ActionParsnip> Dr_willis: nice
[13:34] <Dr_willis> ubernoob:  theres emularots in the repors or at linux game sites. or at the getdeb sites
[13:34] <ActionParsnip> there are legal roms for old games
[13:34] <jatt> where
[13:34] <ActionParsnip> playonlinux ppa has some nice emulators too
[13:34] <Dr_willis> ubernoob:  check out the various emulator sites to see what emus are good these days.
[13:34] <Dr_willis> ubernoob:  and dont forget classic dos games via DosBox :)
[13:35] <ActionParsnip> like dune2 :)
[13:35] <Dr_willis> Warlords :)
[13:35] <ActionParsnip> sid and al's incredible toon machine  :)
[13:36] <Dr_willis> ubernoob:  itheres also several "Scummvm' games in the repos if you like the Monkey Island style games.
[13:36] <Simon1245> Hey guys how to see if 3d Acceleration is enabled?
[13:36] <alex54321> anyone help me with league of legends ?
[13:37] <ActionParsnip> Simon1245: play a 3D game, like supertux or tuxcart
[13:37] <ubernoob> thanks guys, I'm going to check on emulators while the install ... 'progresses' (the disc spins up, every now and again, sounds like there is data being read from it).
[13:37] <ActionParsnip> alex54321: its windows only app so you'll need wine
[13:37] <alex54321> lol i have wine
[13:37] <alex54321> ...
[13:38] <Simon1245> Ok downloading it
[13:38] <ubernoob> Dr_willis, what's "Scummvm"?
[13:38] <Pici> alex54321: Then you should be asking in #winehq
[13:38] <alex54321> oh k
[13:38] <_jmp_> alex54321: good! red or white? :)
[13:38] <alex54321> what?
[13:38] <_jmp_> alex54321: bad joke sorry :)
[13:38] <ganimede> hi all. my ubuntu has just updated the kernel from 3.0.0-15 to 3.0.0-16, and this new version is not booting
[13:38] <ActionParsnip> alex54321: http://www.youtube.com/embed/8zAHMUwcfm8?enablejsapi=1&autoplay=1&version=3&auto hide=1&iv_load_policy=3
[13:38] <_jmp_> alex54321: just read "I have wine" :)
[13:38] <alex54321> :P
[13:38] <alex54321> ohhh i prefer white
[13:38] <_jmp_> red here :)
[13:38] <ganimede> any idea what could go wrong?
[13:39] <ActionParsnip> alex54321: http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=application&iId=10436   silver rating, expect issues
[13:39] <alex54321> boil a bottle about of red wine
[13:39] <alex54321> and then add some black sugar
[13:39] <Lint> how the package is called which manages console fonts?
[13:40] <alex54321> and add some cinnamon
[13:40] <alex54321> and then it is perfect!!!
[13:40] <_jmp_> sounds like warm sangria to me :)
[13:40] <Pici> Lets try to stay on-topic here.
[13:41] <sauevaem> Hello. Asus built in webcam dont work. What do?
[13:41] <Simon1245> ActionParsnip, That supertux game worked that means that it's enabled?
[13:41] <ActionParsnip> alex54321: just straight merlot is fine :)
[13:41] <ActionParsnip> Simon1245: yes, its a 3d game and needs 3d accel to work :)
[13:42] <Simon1245> ActionParsnip, Thanks :)
[13:42] <sauevaem> I tried few solutions from ubuntu webcam faq
[13:43] <sauevaem> Please, help.
[13:44] <ActionParsnip> sauevaem: does it work in cheese?
[13:44] <sauevaem> No.
[13:44] <OranAbi> alex54321, how much sugar i have to add ?
[13:44] <ActionParsnip> sauevaem: then run:  lsusb   and use the 8 character hex ID to find guides
[13:44] <alex54321> w8
[13:45] <alex54321> 1 full ladle
[13:45] <OranAbi> ty alex
[13:45] <bazhang> alex54321, OranAbi #ubuntu-offtopic for chit chat
[13:47] <mbvo> I just installed ubuntu 11.10 and I'm having trouble getting my wifi to work. the card is a bcm5787m and it says it installed the drivers for it but ifconfig -a only lists loopback irda and wired
[13:47] <mun> could a drive already with a primary partition have an extended partition?
[13:47] <damo22> how do i download texlive without 190MB of doc packages?
[13:47] <alex54321> how does it taste?
[13:48] <bazhang> alex54321, what?
[13:48] <Jake> hello
[13:48] <llutz> mun: sure
[13:48] <dlentz> damo22, have you tried apt-get install --no-recommends
[13:48] <Jake> can someone help me pls
[13:48] <Jake> can someone help me pls
[13:48] <Jake> can someone help me pls
[13:48] <Jake> can someone help me pls
[13:48] <Lint> !ask
[13:48] <llutz> !details | Jake
[13:48] <Jake> can some1 be my valentine
[13:48] <Jake> please
[13:49] <bazhang> Jake, wrong channel
[13:49] <llutz> idiots, tuesday...
[13:50] <damo22> command line option -no-recommends is not understood
[13:50] <theadmin> damo22: Two dashes (--no-recommends)
[13:50] <Lint> how the package is called which manages console fonts?
[13:50] <dlentz> --no-recommends (two hyphens)
[13:50] <damo22> i did that
[13:50] <llutz> damo22: --no-install-recomends
[13:50] <llutz> damo22: --no-install-recommends
[13:51] <dlentz> sorry, that's it
[13:51] <llutz> man apt-get
[13:51] <Viman> Hi, I have LXDE on top of Ubuntu and `lxpanelctl run` (the alt-f2 run command) doesn't work for me. Anyone else experiencing this?
[13:51] <FloodBot1> Jake: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:51] <mun> i'm having problem creating an extended partition using gparted. here's a screenshot: http://postimage.org/image/c8nvglmfn/ the Extended Partition option is greyed out. does anyone know why?
[13:52] <meerkats> damm it, I have, again, sound problems, but my alsa seems ok, the card is recognized http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=aa790fd0f1663440b3598f0e6230685adc8b8fba
[13:52] <FatDude> Please do not unnecessarily OP up and abuse your power.
[13:52] <Myrtti> FatDude: thank you for your input
[13:53] <Lint> mun what's inside 'create as' list?
[13:53] <Viman> Hi, I have LXDE on top of Ubuntu and `lxpanelctl run` (the alt-f2 run command) doesn't work for me. Anyone else experiencing this?
[13:53] <mbvo> had the wrong chipset in the last msg I'm having trouble getting my wifi to work. the card is a bcm4311 and it says it installed the drivers for it but ifconfig -a only lists loopback irda and wired
[13:54] <mun> Lint, Just Primary Partition available. Logical and Extended are greyed out.
[13:54] <ActionParsnip> Viman: have you tried in #lubuntu tii
[13:55] <ActionParsnip> *too
[13:55] <Lint> i'm flabbergusted
[13:56] <mun> Lint, i'm using gparted 0.7.0
[13:56] <ActionParsnip> Viman: https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?pid=1000281#p1000281   shows that you should check your lxde-rc.xml
[13:57] <Viman> Action: that's not the problem
[13:57] <Viman> Action: the command does not run AT ALL in first place, so the keybindings don't matter
[13:58] <ActionParsnip> Viman: does it work ok as a fresh user?
[13:58] <Viman> Action: sorry, what do you mean as a fresh user?
[13:58] <Viman> like a guest session?
[13:58] <ActionParsnip> Viman: make a new user and test
[13:59] <aceps> Can I change the keyring password to match the login password in Ubuntu 10.04?
[13:59] <ActionParsnip> aceps: sure
[13:59] <Viman> Action: on my way
[13:59] <LuPoX> hi, some one can help me ? i install last version of xubuntu, but my skystar usb hd doesnt work :(
 How?