[08:51] <sqz> hi all, I'm running an application which utilizes many keyboard shortcuts (milkytracker/terminal) e.g.
[08:51] <sqz> When launching the app, is there any way I can hint the desktop to disable desktopmanager kb-shortcuts while application has mouse-focus?


[00:03] <cerebrate>   um
[00:03] <cerebrate> if i hit alt+a it marks me as away on this client :/
[00:07] <Vivekananda> ?? what do you mean ?
[00:07] <cerebrate> i dunno lemme check
[00:07] <cerebrate> i didnt keep a log
[00:07] <cerebrate> but i thought i remembered you wanting alt + a to open a terminal for you :>
[00:07] <Vivekananda> no no I meant that I just chose someshortcut I liked to call the terminal
[00:08] <Vivekananda> I did not know if there would be clashes and all
[00:08] <cerebrate> how do i do that (without exposing your particular choice)
[00:08] <Vivekananda> yes I did want a keyboard shortcut to open a terminal for me
[00:08] <Vivekananda> I chose alt a and now it does :)
[00:08] <cerebrate> oh ok
[00:08] <Vivekananda> I had to edit a file in .config
[00:09] <Vivekananda> just add 4 lines to it . Was pretty simple thought but I messed up the first time by not addiing proper closing tags to the xml
[00:09] <Vivekananda> so broke the xml :(. But fortunately had backed it up so now things are fine
[00:09] <Vivekananda> Anyone here who can help me sort my graphics card out ??
[00:09] <Vivekananda> cerebrate: you know something about the graphics ?
[00:10] <cerebrate> i doubt i could assist but i'll try for you
[00:10] <cerebrate> ;-; did not find a way
[00:15] <Vivekananda> ?? way for what ? getting the shortcut working ?
[00:15] <Vivekananda> or my problem
[00:31] <Vivekananda> cerebrate: ?? did you solve the problem
[00:31] <cerebrate> i dont know about the graphics card issues
[00:53] <cerebrate> thanks; how do i set up a hotkey to open a terminal in lxde
[01:37] <dorohoro> hi to allll
[02:02] <Vivekananda> Is there a cpufreq scaling applet for cairo or lubuntu in general with colors and all.
[02:07] <Vivekananda> anyone here
[02:07] <Vivekananda> I am trying to use the guide here to tweak my graphics card https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RadeonDriver
[02:08] <Vivekananda> it talks about having na xorg.conf file and so I tried this site for it and got an errorhttp://forum.lxde.org/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=1492
[02:08] <Vivekananda> error of broken pipes. Is someone there ?
[02:14] <Vivekananda> anyone here
[02:20] <Vivekananda> ??
[02:20] <Vivekananda> hello
[02:20] <Vivekananda> anyone ?
[03:07] <Vivekananda> hello
[03:07] <Vivekananda> anyone here
[03:07] <Vivekananda> this is pretty slow and dying :( :(
[03:07] <Vivekananda> I am a new user. someone plz listen to meee:(
[03:21] <holstein> Vivekananda: its not an issue of anyone "listening"
[03:21] <holstein> !patients | Vivekananda
[03:21] <holstein> lol
[03:22] <holstein> !patience | Vivekananda
[03:22] <holstein> Vivekananda: what would i suggest you do? install and use xubuntu.. its not as light, but its much more like gnome2, and has a larger community
[03:22] <holstein> Vivekananda: otherwise, patiently state your issues, and we'll work through them..
[03:23] <holstein> Vivekananda: the custom xorg is usually for tweaking a driver, but it'll be the same for all the variants
[03:23] <holstein> Vivekananda: if you have an older machine, you might just have bad video playback in flash
[03:23] <Vivekananda> lol yep I should have that .
[03:24] <Vivekananda> I only wish someone would say a yep or a wait and I am fine with waiting 10 hours or 20 :).
[03:25] <holstein> Vivekananda: sure. then use a more popular OS.. use xubuntu.. or main ubuntu.. this is a small community, and you *will* be waiting around for answers
[03:25] <Vivekananda> holstein: thanks for the comments. I do have an older machine but was working ok in lucid just 3 days back ( I know lucid is old too but not that old I guess 1!)
[03:26] <Vivekananda> yep no problems now that I know it . I wonder though why people recommended this to me ( lubuntu) if is not a very active distro
[03:26] <holstein> lucid goes EOL in april.. XFCE from xubuntu is arguably the most like gnome2, which you are used to
[03:26] <Vivekananda> 3 people told me to go for lubuntu. I wonder why .
[03:26] <holstein> Vivekananda: lubuntu is excellent.. its lightweight, and perfect for older hardware
[03:26] <holstein> Vivekananda: if you are patient and resourceful, it is a good choice
[03:27] <Vivekananda> ok then it is fine now so can I state my issues ?
[03:27] <holstein> Vivekananda: if you are wanting something more like what you had (gnome2) and a more active community, try xubuntu
[03:27] <holstein> Vivekananda: sure
[03:27] <Vivekananda> I want something which is light and fast even when I run eclipse+ tomcat + sql server + other things
[03:28] <Vivekananda> gnome even in lucid did not take that so I shifted to this. My system is not that bad and can take it although a little slower so here I am
[03:29] <Vivekananda> there are a few differences and I just want to know what the best way out is for them. First I installed cairo dock so I can get to things easier. I found that it needs a compositiing thing
[03:29] <holstein> Vivekananda: none of these will make your machine any faster.. it is what it is, and will run apps at the same speed, regardless.. LXDE is light, and doenst take up resources uncessisarily, taking resources away from other apps
[03:29] <Vivekananda> so I installed xcompmgr
[03:29] <holstein> Vivekananda: if you are interested in speed, dont use compositing
[03:29] <Vivekananda> holstein: I understand and that is what my intention is too. Not making it fast per se !
[03:29] <holstein> Vivekananda: dont use cario dock.. use somethin glike kupfer
[03:30] <Vivekananda> kupfer hmm ok then I am going to download that and remove cairo
[03:30] <Vivekananda> and remove xcompmgr
[03:31] <Vivekananda> and try kupfer. Is it stable ?
[03:31] <holstein> Vivekananda: you wont need to ask me that about anything i will suggest to you.. i wont suggest anything without telling you if it has issues
[03:31] <Vivekananda> I will just ask you things I find different so I can know how best to tackle them here
[03:31] <Vivekananda> oo k :) thanks
[03:32] <Vivekananda> I needed to create custom launchers ( eclipse and all) and put them in the panel for quick opening
[03:32] <Vivekananda> workaround for this ?
[03:32] <holstein> Vivekananda: kupfer
[03:33] <holstein> Vivekananda: you'll hit a key combination.. control+spacebar and type.. and launch whatever
[03:33] <holstein> there are no ittle things to make, and click on
[03:33] <holstein> no more mousing around.. just type and launch
[03:33] <holstein> with little overhead
[03:34] <Vivekananda> The thing is I have eclipse installed separately and so is sublimetext ( two I remember) If I have to type and launch I need to remember the whole path of all such apps !!!!
[03:35] <holstein> Vivekananda: kupfer can remeber that.. or you can make a text file.. or just use the terminal and !
[03:36] <holstein> Vivekananda: i ssh into my chat session, and i use !ssh
[03:36] <holstein> usually, its the last ssh command in my history
[03:37] <Vivekananda> yes but imagine having to launch any of the 50 or so apps I have without any visual feedback and relying on terminal. Even the terminal forget after a few days ( is it or weeks )
[03:38] <Vivekananda> I have never done it before and I just wonder how much extra time it takes to do a ctrl R for reverse search and type the name of the program  ( sometimes not even the same name as I remember it ) and then
[03:38] <holstein> Vivekananda: yup.. i choose to do that instead of maintaining little things to click on.. or having the overhead of my UI maintaining them
[03:38] <holstein> Vivekananda: you are do waht you like
[03:38] <holstein> Vivekananda: there are smaller docks.. i used to use wbar
[03:38] <holstein> its nice, and you can put what you want in it.. doenst need compositing
[03:39] <Vivekananda> good so that is one down
[03:39] <Vivekananda> kupfer and wbar
[03:39] <holstein> Vivekananda: also, you can use, as i suggested before, the XFCE panel either in xubuntu, or in lubuntu, which you can add whatever you want to
[03:39] <holstein> you can add another lxde panel and load it up with what you like
[03:39] <holstein> you can use tint2 panel
[03:40] <holstein> you can use *any* launcher that doesnt need compositing.. unless you realy want/like cario, then use xcompmgr
[03:40] <holstein> i use xcompmgr with my system.. though, i really dont need it
[03:40] <Vivekananda> Yes I can do that but I cannot find a way to put in custom launchers. If I could then that would be the best for me but I am certainly going to give kupfer a shot
[03:41] <Vivekananda> I dont want anything that slows things down but adds nothing to functionality ( I have decided this for now :))
[03:41] <Vivekananda> can I somehow put custom launchers in the panel ?
[03:41] <holstein> Vivekananda: you just tell me clearly where you want what
[03:41] <Vivekananda> I want an eclipse launcher in the panel
[03:42] <holstein> Vivekananda: its all open.. yo can literally do whatever you have the patients to learn how to do
[03:42] <Vivekananda> ok
[03:42] <holstein> http://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.php?f=175&t=96252
[03:44] <Vivekananda> ok that helps.
[03:44] <Vivekananda> I wanted to have shortcuts to my drives on the desktop. how do I do that ?
[03:45] <holstein> Vivekananda: its a right-click option in xubuntu... again, this is anther question easily solved with a heavier DE
[03:45] <Vivekananda> that is a smaller issue though. A bigger and more important is I need to have a dropbox folder installed and regularly synced also visually or somehow showing me that it is in sync or syncing. This is vital
[03:46] <Vivekananda> dropbox again would be for a heavier ide ?? :( right ?
[03:46] <Vivekananda> gnome made me this :)
[03:47] <Vivekananda> but I want to be more independent and learn how other people manage and even like these lighter ides
[03:47] <holstein> Vivekananda: xfce is the closest to emulating gnome2
[03:47] <Vivekananda> if it was nto convenient for them they would not use them right ?
[03:47] <holstein> Vivekananda: the reason folks use LXDE is because its light.. there are certain compromises.. desktop icon is one of those
[03:47] <holstein> http://www.pclinuxos.com/forum/index.php?topic=85098.0
[03:48] <holstein> no file manager is drawing anything on the desktop, taking up resources
[03:48] <holstein> and thats is "light"
[03:48] <holstein> when you go adding functionality like that, i think one might as well just use XFCE
[03:50] <holstein> http://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.php?f=175&t=69814
[03:50] <Vivekananda> holstein: nope I am not going to but kind of curious mostly about the thing that all users would need functions like that. E.g . if you had a dropbox folder and doing assignments or projects and storing it in there, you would certainly like to know when the sync finished so you can turn off or hibernate the comp
[03:50] <holstein> you can use nautilus, but nautilus is heavy, and takes over everything...
[03:51] <holstein> Vivekananda: i use a dropbox script that i found using crunchbang, for using dropbox with thunar in openbox
[03:51] <Vivekananda> nope. No nautilus for me :). I did try and it wanted me to install everything ( 380megs) so I stopped it short
[03:52] <Vivekananda> what does the script do ? Does it display reminders about sync ?
[03:52] <Vivekananda> or syncing or something ?
[03:52] <holstein> http://crunchbanglinux.org/wiki/howto/add_desktop_icons
[03:52] <holstein> Vivekananda: it does simliar to what dropbox does in nautilus, but in the ligher filemanager
[03:53] <holstein> Vivekananda: pcmanfm will draw a desktop
[03:53] <Vivekananda> isnt pcmanfm installed by default in lubuntu ?
[03:54] <holstein> Vivekananda: i dont remember which.. you can check, and choose to have it draw them.. or install it, and have it draw them
[03:56] <Vivekananda> I already have it in my system. what does it mean pcmanfm will "draw a desktop" ?
[03:56] <holstein> Vivekananda: if you want desktop icons, like you asked.. it will do that for you in LXDE
[03:57] <Vivekananda> ok so I have it and gave it the command pcfman --desktop like on the site
[03:58] <holstein> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/PCManFM
[03:59] <holstein> http://www.linuceum.com/Distros/osDesktopLubuntu.php
[04:00] <Vivekananda> I am bookmarkign all these pages for further reading and solving problems later
[04:01] <Vivekananda> the big issue for me was dropbox sync to work . a good substitute for ms office ( for this particular program I am not worried about memory but I need something good so installed libreoffice)
[04:02] <Vivekananda> and also making my computer smoother. It is fast enough but stutters.
[04:02] <holstein> well, dropbox is working.. it'll work in the background on a server
[04:02] <holstein> what you are looking for is somthing that shows you feedback in a GUI that its working
[04:02] <holstein> http://askubuntu.com/questions/49531/how-can-i-integrate-dropbox-with-pcmanfm
[04:03] <Vivekananda> I will leave the rest of the issues for later. I need some sort of feedback that syncing is done ( so I can be sure I will get the files elsewhere and go to sleep :) )
[04:03] <holstein> Vivekananda: msoffice can be run online
[04:03] <holstein> http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/web-apps/
[04:03] <holstein> i just use libreoffice.. or google docs
[04:04] <Vivekananda> yes but I would like to have something with a full fledged formattting options and also tex formatting and stuff for the projects and stuff I have to do for college
[04:05] <Vivekananda> I dont want to depend on internet for such things as important assignments / hw
[04:05] <holstein> Vivekananda: the first link is office.. the actual office.. i do formatting in all of them
[04:05] <holstein> Vivekananda: libreoffice is stand alone
[04:05] <Vivekananda> isnt the web office limited in usage. I have a college account for msonline and I saw that office there is limited ( functional sure but limited )
[04:06] <Vivekananda> I have a students account on it
[04:07] <Vivekananda> libreoffice will have to do for now I guess. I also have to format ppts and resume's
[04:07] <holstein> Vivekananda: i dont use MS word
[04:07] <Vivekananda> you dont !!!
[04:07] <holstein> i dont use it online, or stand alone
[04:07] <holstein> i use libreoffice.. or google docs
[04:07] <Vivekananda> omg !! that is new for me !! . so what do you use. ? oo
[04:07] <holstein> ?
[04:07] <holstein> Vivekananda: i use libreoffice
[04:07] <holstein> Vivekananda: its not something i use "til i save my money up" or whatever
[04:08] <holstein> i choose to use it
[04:08] <holstein> i like it.. it works.. i prefer it
[04:08] <Vivekananda> nice. But can it do all that ms office can ? formatting issues and stuff. I have faced a lot of those with openoffice but msoffice had so many easy and much extensive ways of doing the same
[04:08] <holstein> i dont miss anything... you will have to install and try it and see for yourself
[04:09] <Vivekananda> I already did and will be trying it this week itself. From an overview it looks very similar to openoffice
[04:09] <holstein> Vivekananda: it *is* openoffice.. openoffice forked to that
[04:09] <Vivekananda> o yes one thing I forgot to say. I used OO for quite sometime now and whenver I created a project with pics and stuff and saved as .doc or .docx it would mess up in so many ways I cannot even recall
[04:10] <Vivekananda> my prof couldnot even open it on two separate occasions and I cannot very well send him a .odt file
[04:10] <Vivekananda> he wont know what to do with it !! :)
[04:11] <Vivekananda> but I am wasting your time and mine right now discussing OO. I need to get a handle on three important problems above and get some work done :(
[04:11] <Vivekananda> I dont like the terminal on lubuntu. did you use something for that or did you stick with this one
[04:12] <holstein> Vivekananda: i dont save as .doc
[04:12] <holstein> Vivekananda: i dont need to.. you can though
[04:12] <holstein> Vivekananda: your proffessor, and you.. and *anyone* is free to download ad run libreoffice.. free of charge
[04:12] <Vivekananda> holstein: ok but I have to do submissions for school. I cannot do them any other way
[04:12] <holstein> on any operating system
[04:13] <holstein> folks like me donate time to make sure schools and students dont have to pay anyone to do that
[04:13] <holstein> but, if you need/want to create .doc documents, you can.. you'll just have to be more cautious
[04:13] <holstein> Vivekananda: i dont need to.. nor want to
[04:13] <holstein> Vivekananda: i export to pdf
[04:14] <Vivekananda> holstein: "There" I will venture to say, you expect too much !! ( from my practical experience). I have a younger sis and a very nice doc ( one of the top hospitals in the US)  but she does not understand why a computer needs to shut off from time to time and how that helps
[04:14] <holstein> Vivekananda: you can ask if you can turn in pdfs.. you can try googledocs..
[04:14] <holstein> Vivekananda: i dont shut off my computer
[04:14] <Vivekananda> I know but you have different reasons. You wont go and put an ailing heating computer on the bed and block out its vents so that the bed andteh computer catches fire would you ?
[04:15] <Vivekananda> but last and biggest problem for me. Making this computer run smoother. I unistalled cairo and the xcompmgr but they are still there . I guess I need to reboot to get completely cleaer of them right ?
[04:16] <Vivekananda> Now onto the biggest problem of checking the graphics working
[04:16] <holstein> or log out and back in
[04:16] <Vivekananda> ok will do that
[04:17] <Vivekananda> even for logout I have to go up top click on logout and then do what not. How do I logout using alt f2?
[04:18] <Vivekananda> Before I do though I want to save a transcript of this chat
[04:22] <Vivekananda> so how do I use kupfer?
[04:22] <Vivekananda> I use alt f2 to launch it ?
[04:22] <Vivekananda> then type the name of the thing to open ?
[04:22] <holstein> sure
[04:23] <Vivekananda> or is there any other better way ? oo I know!! I can set a keybind for it :). I tried it now to run logout but nothing happenned
[04:23] <Vivekananda> :(
[04:23] <holstein> Vivekananda: in kuper, there are preferences.. to have it run as startup
[04:24] <Vivekananda> yes but how do I use it when it is running in startup?
[04:24] <Vivekananda> I still have to call up the gui somehow right ?
[04:25] <holstein> Vivekananda: the preferences panel, documentation, manpage or help will tell you.. but, as i said above, its control+space
[04:26] <Vivekananda> there is documentation for it . I found it ! so will read through that now. also why did "logout" not work ?
[04:27] <Vivekananda> also in eclipse ctrl space is autocomplete . What happens if I have eclipse running and do that keypress ;P
[04:29] <holstein> Vivekananda: you can remap it to what you like, to avoid conflicting with eclipse.. or likely remap that in eclips if you prefer
[04:31] <Vivekananda> hmm I guess will do that.  I would like to have a little decent terminal and not the one by default. It does not even have line numbers.
[04:31] <Vivekananda> Also about dropbox showing it has finished syncing. Did I miss something you said about that ??
[04:33] <holstein> Vivekananda: you can search and find whatever fits your needs.. i use the gnome-terminal.. though terminator is nice
[04:33] <holstein> Vivekananda: there is a link above
[04:33] <Vivekananda> I am thinking of terminator too.
[04:33] <holstein> http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2010/04/how-to-install-dropbox-in-lubuntu
[04:33] <Vivekananda> for terminator??
[04:34] <Vivekananda> that is for install which I can do. How does the syncing intimation work ? or will work ?
[04:35] <holstein> Vivekananda: the link above i am referencing is for dropbox in pcmanfm.. from the crunchbang documents
[04:35] <holstein> Vivekananda: anythig will work you choose to implement
[04:36] <holstein> or, it will literally work out of the box with nautilus
[04:37] <Vivekananda> ok so will have to see how it can display / notify that syncing is done.  But my question was about how to get dropbox to tell me syncing is finished for its folder
[04:42] <holstein> http://askubuntu.com/questions/49531/how-can-i-integrate-dropbox-with-pcmanfm
[04:42] <holstein> http://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.php?f=175&t=48209
[04:42] <holstein> http://crunchbang.org/forums/viewtopic.php?id=21171
[04:43] <holstein> http://code.google.com/p/pcmanfm-dropbox-overlay/
[04:47] <Vivekananda> thanks. will look into it as well
[04:59] <Vivekananda> holstein: I am trying to locate something for lxsession-save --force-logout or lxsession-quit but nothing is there except lxsession-logout but it shows a gui choosing thing
[04:59] <Vivekananda> cant I do this from terminal ?
[05:12] <Vivekananda> I am back !
[05:13] <Vivekananda> installed wbar but it does not run
[05:14] <holstein> Vivekananda: a super bar is running
[05:14] <holstein> ?
[05:16] <Vivekananda> I removed it and trying to reinstall. Yes it said using superbar
[05:17] <Vivekananda> using a superbar whatever that means
[05:18] <holstein> Vivekananda: you dont need to reinsatll
[05:18] <holstein> http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/lucid/man1/wbar.1.html
[05:18] <holstein> wbar -above-desk
[05:19] <Vivekananda> yep I tried that myself !! I did show it . Do I have to configure this manually? each time ?
[05:20] <Vivekananda> I want it on the left and autohidden and if possible separated apps by a separater
[05:20] <holstein> Vivekananda: ?
[05:20] <holstein> Vivekananda: you dont have to do anything
[05:20] <holstein> you dont have to use it
[05:20] <holstein> you can "configure" it the one time,and set it to autostart
[05:20] <holstein> Vivekananda: its open.. you can make it look literally however you want
[05:21] <holstein> the good thing about wbar is that its light, and simple
[05:21] <holstein> if its already not working for you, just remove it, and go back to cario
[05:21] <holstein> i like wbar though.. i remember setting up a nice config for it
[05:23] <Vivekananda> It is ok. Lite and fast and that I like!! but configuring it is another matter. I will have to find a sample config file to get an idea of how to do it.
[05:24] <holstein> http://www.upubuntu.com/2011/11/wbar-simple-lightweight-and.html
[05:50] <Vivekananda> holstein: It will take a decent bit of time to configure. I will use something easier now and try it later.
[05:50] <Vivekananda> anything else I could try without a compositing managerr?
[05:51] <holstein> http://www.dedoimedo.com/computers/linux-docks.html
[05:52] <holstein> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=818074
[05:56] <Vivekananda> hmm so back to cairo then :( without compositing . O well
[06:42] <Vivekananda> holstein: you there ?
[06:43] <Vivekananda> I found a file for wbar here http://linux.softpedia.com/get/Utilities/wbarconf-34908.shtml. I downloaded it and ran the install script.
[06:43] <Vivekananda> now what do I do so wbar uses it ?
[07:48] <Vivekananda> hi there
[07:48] <Vivekananda> anyone here?
[08:19] <Noskcaj> Vivekananda, yeah. if you don't get an answer here, try #ubuntu
[08:20] <Vivekananda> Noskcaj: hello
[08:20] <Vivekananda> I wanted to trouble shoot my video card on a fresh install of lubuntu
[08:20] <Noskcaj> hey
[08:20] <Vivekananda> also I holstein helped me out earlier quite a bit
[08:21] <Noskcaj> Vivekananda, i can't help then. i'm on xubuntu, and only because my drivers are f***ed in ubuntu
[08:21] <Vivekananda> just asking the same thing again for another opinion .
[08:21] <Vivekananda> I am going to install xubuntu as a back up
[08:21] <Vivekananda> but I dont think the drivers change
[08:21] <Noskcaj> ok, not much will change though
[08:21] <Noskcaj> they don't
[08:21] <Vivekananda> gone ?
[16:11] <bennypr0fane> hello, how can I find out, which version of a printer driver I am using?
[17:14]  * rahspektd weeps
[17:21] <grinweeper> my usb mouse keeps malfuncitioning, insufficient resources to replace
[17:21] <grinweeper> in a hard to describe vital but unnecessary simulation
[17:28] <cerebrate> uh
[17:29] <cerebrate> using my mouse makes trouble when i give it the command to go left or right; it stops midway and doesn't move any farther in a fps simulation
[18:25] <cerebrate> how do i access a documentation from synaptic package manager
[18:25] <cerebrate> i tried man, unsatisfactory
[18:29] <phillw> cerebrate: different documention uses different access. Which are you having a problem with?
[18:29] <cerebrate> scribus' docs nonfree
[18:31] <phillw> cerebrate: have you looked at http://wiki.scribus.net/canvas/Debian
[18:32] <cerebrate> y thank u
[18:32] <phillw> that has how to install onto ubuntu systems. (Debian stuff will almost always work with ubuntu).
[18:32] <cerebrate> i already have it installed through synaptic n i got some docs for it too
[18:33] <cerebrate> but i dont know where it put the docs and only know how to search the system with the regular cli commands
[18:33] <phillw> I'm not familiar with the application, hopefully that site will give you the information you need.
[18:35] <phillw> There are several topics on the left of that page, e.g. http://wiki.scribus.net/canvas/Debian
[18:35] <phillw> http://wiki.scribus.net/canvas/Category:HOWTO
[18:36] <phillw> cerebrate: ^^
[18:37] <phillw> The application itself should have a 'help' tab that can access any help files that you have downloaded.
[18:40] <phillw> cerebrate: for more general assistance, even when using lubuntu you can use such channels as #ubuntu-beginners, just do let them know that you are using lubuntu and also are not using a lubuntu specific application so you need 'general' help.
[18:44] <cerebrate> aye, i get you
[18:45] <phillw> there's more of them and some may have used the application you are seeking answers on. There is also #ubuntu which is a lot busier, but also a good area to ask on.
[19:38] <JanC> cerebrate: usually documentation (that is not part of the man or info databases) is installed in /usr/share/doc/<packagename>/
[20:05] <cerebrate> y thank u
[20:59] <CHIex> Hello, I am new to linux. Is Lubuntu better for old computers that Xubuntu?
[21:01] <zleap> well lubuntu uses lxde where as xubuntu uses xfce both are aimed at low power systems
[21:01] <zleap> what is your system spec
[21:03] <zleap> CHIex, is that helpful ?
[21:04] <CHIex> 1000 MHZ AMD  barton, 1,5  GB RAM .. its for my old comp to download podcasts, like a server
[21:04] <CHIex> whats the difference between XFCE AND LXDE?
[21:06] <CHIex> which is better for computer like mine and for a begginer to Linux?
[21:07] <CHIex> which is more stable and has more options to set up?
[21:08] <cerebrate> salut
[21:08] <cerebrate> je ne parle pas francais mais une peu
[21:08] <cerebrate> you mean in english 1.5 g ram yes
[21:08] <cerebrate> no?
[21:08] <cerebrate> honh honh honh :D
[21:09] <cerebrate> i suggest lubuntu but i haven't tried xubuntu
[21:09] <cerebrate> if you have gui habits and preferences
[21:09] <cerebrate> i dont know really
[21:09] <cerebrate> just a suggestion mon ami
[21:10] <CHIex> what do you mean by GUI?
[21:10] <cerebrate> graphics-user interface
[21:11] <cerebrate> i dont know anything about using xubuntu practically
[21:11] <cerebrate> but i chose lubuntu for the lxde
[21:11] <cerebrate> and the ease of use
[22:21] <tata> why my lubuntu 12.10 not play DVD, default player is:  Gnome Mplayer