[05:19] <bur[n] er> GhostFreeman: what do you mean by "all the way" ?
[05:19] <GhostFreeman> it only loads smproxy and leaves me hanging
[05:19] <shadikka> I just began to love Amarok, now that I got it to work well ^_^
[05:19] <deFrysk> amarok is a resource hog
[05:20] <robotgeek> chiisai: can u cd to /var/cache/apt/archives
[05:20] <GhostFreeman> I think its because I told Gnome to save my last session
[05:21] <GhostFreeman> I'm running Failsafe now, and it booted up fine
[05:21] <Garyu> hrm, vlc crashes on opening the dvd
[05:21] <Garyu> the dvd is region free, it tries to crack it with libcss
[05:21] <bur[n] er> amarok isn't a resource hog when using kde
[05:21] <chiisai> robotgeek, yes, and I found these: linux-headers-2.6.10-5-386_2.6.10-34.4_i386.deb linux-headers-2.6.10-5_2.6.10-34.4_i386.deb linux-image-2.6.10-5-386_2.6.10-34.4_i386.deb
[05:21] <bur[n] er> GhostFreeman: save the session from failsafe?
[05:21] <GhostFreeman> tried that, the same
[05:22] <bur[n] er> although qt 4 is supposedly a free-er cross platform now so we'll see
[05:22] <robotgeek> chiisai: basically, we now need a chrooted terminal
[05:22] <GhostFreeman> Where would Gnome hold the information on startup services like smproxy
[05:22] <bur[n] er> the themes are just ugly ;)
[05:22] <bur[n] er> GhostFreeman: got bum?  boot up manager?
[05:22] <chiisai> robotgeek, already in one
[05:22] <GhostFreeman> is that a LiveCD utility or a package
[05:23] <bur[n] er> package
[05:23] <flodine> is there a program for ubuntu to monitor my cpu temp%
[05:23] <bur[n] er> it's in breezy for sure... I think I used it in hoary though too
[05:23] <chiisai> flodine, lmsensors
[05:23] <robotgeek> chiisai: you must also have a linux-image package?
[05:23] <GhostFreeman> Is it in the Hoary repository
[05:23] <bur[n] er> GhostFreeman: check ;)
[05:23] <chiisai> flodine, http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&ct=res&cd=7&url=http%3A//www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php%3Ft%3D2780&ei=cPoiQ8yJG5SQiALdhsmAAw
[05:23] <Faust> program for temp?  there are txt files in proc for that
[05:24] <chiisai> robotgeek, oh.. yeah, I got linux-image-2.6.10-5-386_2.6.10-34.4_i386.deb (the one installed already)
[05:24] <robotgeek> chiisai: do a sudo dpkg -i linux-image...deb
[05:25] <GhostFreeman> I don't see bum in repo
[05:25] <bur[n] er> w00t... new xfmedia was just put in breezy :)  (i love rss readers)
[05:25] <HappyFool> !bum
[05:25] <ubotu> it has been said that bum is a graphical BootUp Manager; see http://www.marzocca.net/linux/bum.html
[05:25] <GhostFreeman> would bum let me edit the Gnome startup services
[05:26] <ninjafish> quick question, can a qt app work in Gnome?
[05:26] <deFrysk> yup
[05:26] <bur[n] er> GhostFreeman: there's also a "services" thing in gnome
[05:26] <bur[n] er> GhostFreeman: got gnome-system-tools ?
[05:26] <bur[n] er> ninjafish: sure
[05:26] <bur[n] er> ninjafish: slower... as it has to load qt libs, but it works nonetheless
[05:26] <GhostFreeman> yeah
[05:26] <GhostFreeman> Sessions, right?
[05:26] <GhostFreeman> I just went through that as well
[05:26] <chiisai> robotgeek, http://<IP_ADDRESS>/ubuntu1.txt
[05:26] <bur[n] er> GhostFreeman: nope... services
[05:26] <HappyFool> GhostFreeman: i'm not sure what you mean by gnome startup services; afaik, bum let's you change the general (system) services
[05:26] <GhostFreeman> ok
[05:27] <bur[n] er> GhostFreeman: apt-get install gnome-system-tools
[05:27] <ninjafish> excellent, I have qtlibs etc. thanks
[05:28] <Garyu> hrm, gxine sucks
[05:28] <Garyu> is that the right xine player?
[05:28] <Garyu> or should I use another one?
[05:28] <bur[n] er> Garyu: just use xine-ui
[05:28] <Garyu> okay
[05:28] <bur[n] er> Garyu: gxine is the gtk frontend for xine
[05:29] <Garyu> there are a dozen xine packages, quite confusing
[05:29] <pinko> I've got embedded gxine working in opera...
[05:29] <bur[n] er> Garyu: just read, try, play, etc
[05:29] <pinko> but I haven't had any luck with anything else
[05:29] <shadikka> Is there a way to manually force a refresh rate? (a rate I know to work...)
[05:29] <svizzero> anyone knows how to let a program start at boot time ?
[05:29] <Garyu> bur[n] er: yeah, that's what I've been doing
[05:30] <vanberge> morning #ubuntu
[05:30] <Garyu> svizzero: System > Preferences > Sessions
[05:30] <Garyu> then use the Tab "Startup Programs"
[05:30] <robotgeek> chiisai: also try sudo dpkg-reconfigure linux-image-2.6.10-34.4
[05:30] <GhostFreeman> I have system tools, where do I go now?
[05:30] <pel> checked with my ISP... ubuntu.com seemes to be the problem. right now I can't reach ubuntu.com even with firefox - no wonder apt-get update fails. Can anybody confirm please?`Otherwise I have to check with my ISP again
[05:30] <svizzero> Garyu, I need to start a program before xorg
[05:30] <sordic> can i install wxpython2.6 on hoary ?
[05:30] <topyli> someone please go to http://mtv3.fi with firefox and see if it crashes
[05:30] <chiisai> robotgeek, Package `linux-image-2.6.10-34.4' is not installed and no info is available.
[05:30] <thrush_2> shadikka, have you set vertical and horizontal refresh yet?
[05:31] <chiisai> robotgeek: linux-image-2.6.10-386 maybe?
[05:31] <robotgeek> chiisai: also try sudo dpkg-reconfigure linux-image-2.6.10-34.5-386
[05:31] <shadikka> thrush_2, err, nope? ^^;
[05:31] <alien8> pel: quite often this is due to your ISP fscking with MTU - lower yours from 1500 progressively IMHO ICBW IANAL
[05:31] <robotgeek> chiisai: also try sudo dpkg-reconfigure linux-image-2.6.10-34.4-386
[05:31] <bz0b> can someone help me get my wifi card to work, except for the fact its a usb wifi card
[05:31] <vanberge> pel, works ok for me
[05:31] <thrush_2> shadikka, have manual for your monitor?
[05:31] <chiisai> robotgeek, Package `linux-image-2.6.10-34.4-386' is not installed and no info is available.
[05:31] <vanberge> i cannot get sourceforge to open...
[05:31] <chiisai> robotgeek, Package `linux-image-2.6.10-386' is not installed and no info is available.
[05:31] <shadikka> thrush_2, well, at least not quickly handy. Maybe from the net.
[05:31] <vanberge> just shows as a blank page
[05:32] <bz0b> sourceforge is down!
[05:32] <bz0b> for maintenence
[05:32] <vanberge> bz0b, seriuosly?
[05:32] <bosshoff> hey guys, I really want to get a bunch of little tux-replace-windows key stickers so I can pass them out in my LUG; anyone know where I can get a bunch for pretty cheap?
[05:32] <thrush_2> shadikka, you want horz and vert settings from the manual before you continue
[05:32] <svizzero> anyone knows how to let a program start at boot time ?
[05:32] <HappyFool> pel: i'm downloading stuff from security.ubuntu.com right now; www.ubuntu.com is working too
[05:32] <bz0b> vanberge, yeah, i hacked the living daylight out of it ;-)
[05:32] <shadikka> thrush, ok
[05:32] <HappyFool> svizzero: you can add a call to it to /etc/init.d/bootmisc.sh
[05:32] <pel> alien8: thanks - but it did work with several identical boxes earlier today. right now ubunto.com seems to be down :-(
[05:33] <svizzero> HappyFool, thx
[05:33] <vanberge> bz0b, nice work  ;-)
[05:33] <robotgeek> chiisai:  dpkg -l | grep linux-image
[05:33] <flodine> chiisai you there
[05:34] <chiisai> ii  linux-image-2. 2.6.10-34.4    Linux kernel image for version 2.6.10 on 386
[05:34] <h17m4n> Help: PLEASE tell me how to check the MD5 of a file. I know it can't be that hard and I really need it.
[05:34] <chiisai> ii  linux-image-38 2.6.10-7       Linux kernel image on 386.
[05:34] <chiisai> flodine, yes ..
[05:34] <Garyu> thanks bur[n] er, I got xine now :)
[05:34] <bz0b> vanberge, yeah, everyone hates me now ;-)
[05:34] <Garyu> at least has some more possibilities than the other ones
[05:34] <chiisai> h17m4n, md5sum <file>
[05:34] <flodine> i cant start this program
[05:34] <HappyFool> h17m4n: md5sum filename ?
[05:34] <bur[n] er> Garyu: good luck with it
[05:34] <chiisai> flodine, what program?
[05:34] <vanberge> quick poll of #ubuntu -  which window manager do you use??
[05:34] <bur[n] er> xfce
[05:34] <flodine> im sensor
[05:34] <robotgeek> openbox + gnome
[05:34] <h17m4n> Thanks. Let me check it
[05:34] <shadikka> Gnome
[05:35] <Butcherbird_Jr> fluxbox
[05:35] <bur[n] er> er... technically xfwm4... and everyone who says gnome... it's actually metacity
[05:35] <chiisai> flodine, dunno, read the thread
[05:35] <pel> HappyFool: maybe a router of my ISP runs wild... other sites work perfectly, internal net is fast and stable - just www.ubuntu.com refuses to anwer...
[05:36] <bur[n] er> pel: it's owned by MS i bet ;)
[05:36] <HappyFool> pel: all i can say is it's working from here
[05:36] <bur[n] er> anyone live in Africa that wants to buy an HP with Ubuntu for me and ship it? :)
[05:37] <robotgeek> chiisai: basically, u need to find out what version of linux-image u gotta install, and sudo dpkg-reconfigure it
[05:37] <chiisai> robotgeek, ...so I don't know. I apparently got linux-image-2.6.10-34.4 and linux-image-386 (2.6.10-7)
[05:37] <fblade> hey is there any good mmorpgs out for linux other then planeshift and the world of mana?
[05:37] <test34> where does ipv6 over ipv4 tunneling gets activated from ? I need to disable it
[05:38] <robotgeek> chiisai: do a apt-cache search linux-image
[05:38] <pel> bur[n] er: not possible: if they were owned by MS it would not have worked erlier today either :-)
[05:38] <fblade> hey is there any good mmorpgs out for linux other then planeshift and the world of mana?
[05:38] <chiisai> linux-image-2.6.10-5-386
[05:39] <NightBird> hey, if apt-get update doesn't like the online sources, what should I do?
[05:39] <bur[n] er> pel: so true ;)
[05:39] <chiisai> robotgeek, http://<IP_ADDRESS>/ubuntu2.txt
[05:39] <charlesj> what is a good firewall with a nice UI ?
[05:39] <HappyFool> !firewall
[05:39] <ubotu> I guess firewall is Ubuntu has, like every other linux distribution, firewalling built into the kernel. A simple frontend to this firewall is firestarter.
[05:39] <bur[n] er> NightBird: change your sources.list
[05:39] <bz0b> yay i just won my new car on ebay!
[05:39] <shadikka> :)
[05:39] <thrush_2> fblade, double check the entries in sources.list more than likely a typo
[05:40] <sordic> NightBird, you can talk with him, but you can change the sources. look: www.ubuntuguide.org
[05:40] <charlesj> thanks
[05:40] <robotgeek> chiisai: reboot?
[05:40] <chiisai> robotgeek, ...right.
[05:40] <NightBird> bur[n] er, I've tried several times..
[05:40] <shadikka> robotgeek, nice a bot there...
[05:40] <NightBird> the default ones don't work right
[05:40] <shinu> anyone here tried to run quake3 icculus?
[05:40] <HappyFool> NightBird: put your sources.list up on the pastebin (i.e., not here)
[05:41] <_lui_> anybody knows why gkrellm doesn't recognize my mb temp sensors
[05:41] <HappyFool> !pastebin
[05:41] <ubotu> I guess pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[05:41] <bz0b> shinu, i have ran quake3 on cedega!
[05:41] <shinu> bz0b: im trying to compile from source :)
[05:41] <bz0b> shinu, ah, i see
[05:42] <GhostFreeman> Still won't load past smproxy
[05:42] <shinu> and it just gets stuck with some error...
[05:42] <_lui_> anybody knows why gkrellm doesn't recognize my mb temp sensors
[05:42] <NightBird> here is the problem though, I can't open this in myth(since s-video out doesn't work properly), so I'll do a visual copy and paste... :-\
[05:42] <bz0b> http://images.auction123.com/A123IH/43e064b4-20cf-4b83-a13a-f8bf54ef04e8/KMHHN65F94U121558/01/webimage001l.jpg for anyone who is interested
[05:42] <GhostFreeman> where are the logs for startup kept, that may help me out
[05:42] <shadikka> What was the packet for Windows core fonts?
[05:42] <poypoy> Hey, I get "chgrp: changing group of `/data': Operation not permitted" when trying to sudo chgrp meez /data, I don't understand what would be preventing this when I'm sudo'ing it... :\
[05:42] <sordic> shadikka, msttcorefonts
[05:42] <shadikka> sordic, thanks ^
[05:42] <_lui_> how I use the X11 Mouse themes?
[05:43] <_lui_> how do se the X11 Mouse themes?
[05:43] <paulw> anyone know, what is the best html editor for linux?
[05:43] <HappyFool> GhostFreeman: /var/log/messages, /var/log/syslog and /var/log/dmesg (last one is for kernel messages)
[05:43] <_lui_> how do I use the X11 Mouse themes?
[05:43] <shadikka> *^^, never can adapt to the idea of this ^-character thingy (press twice for one)
[05:43] <sordic>  paulw NVU
[05:43] <paulw> sordic, thx
[05:44] <gbhat> anyone know how to get usplash to display while booting up?
[05:44] <pinko> I'm beginning to look at html editors.  bluefish seems to require gnome :P
[05:44] <gbhat> I am using Breezy with latest updates and the k7 kernel
[05:44] <GhostFreeman> which one of the three would log anything related to Gnome startup
[05:44] <shadikka> "$ sudo apt-get install msttcorefonts" - "Package msttcorefonts is not available, but is referred to by another package. (etc.)" ... o_O?
[05:44] <gbhat> shadikka, enabled all repositories?
[05:45] <shadikka> gbhat, universe and multiverse at least. I'll check.
[05:45] <HappyFool> !info msttcorefonts
[05:45] <ubotu> msttcorefonts: (Installer for Microsoft TrueType core fonts), section multiverse/x11, is optional. Version: 1.2ubuntu1 (hoary), Packaged size: 21 kB, Installed size: 160 kB
[05:45] <shadikka> hm
[05:45] <gbhat> !info usplash
[05:45] <sordic> shadikka, look: www.ubuntuguide.org "add extra repositories"
[05:45] <paulw> shadikka, refer to this page, it'll help you set up the right repositories and has a good how to for jre and others.
[05:46] <shadikka> Okay.
[05:46] <NightBird> HappyFool, http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2063
[05:46] <paulw> shadikka, http://ubuntuguide.org/#extrarepositories
[05:46] <gbhat> anyone help me with usplash?
[05:46] <bz0b> !yummy
[05:46] <ubotu> bz0b: parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about
[05:46] <NightBird> I had to edit out some lines..
[05:46] <NightBird> because either I couldn't see it all, or because they were commented out anyways
[05:46] <paulw> is there a way to install breezy now overtop of hoary?
[05:47] <HappyFool> NightBird: you need main and restricted too
[05:47] <paulw> or do we wait for the officail release?
[05:47] <Mestapheles> upgrade
[05:47] <HappyFool> !tell nightbird about repos
[05:47] <robotgeek_away> !repos
[05:47] <ubotu> from memory, repos is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969
[05:47] <HappyFool> NightBird: the second link in what ubotu has sent you has an example 'sources.list' file which you can use
[05:47] <paulw> Mestapheles, using the cd iso? or apt-get?
[05:47] <Sonny_Wertzik> Can someone tell me if Macromedia Flash Player for Linux will work with the AMD64 version of Ubuntu?
[05:47] <Mestapheles> apt-get I'm sure
[05:48] <ubuntuuuu> hi. does anyone know where I can download ubuntu official backgrounds?
[05:48] <robotgeek_away> Sonny_Wertzik: probably not
[05:48] <Mestapheles> you'd have to change the repos in sources.list
[05:48] <ubuntuuuu> i really don't like the colors of the one that comes with breezy
[05:48] <Sonny_Wertzik> ok thanx
[05:48] <HappyFool> ubuntuuuu: you can install the 'ubuntu-calendar' package, though that hasn't been updated in ages
[05:48] <robotgeek_away> !info ubuntu-artwork
[05:48] <ubotu> ubuntu-artwork: (Ubuntu themes and artwork), section gnome, is optional. Version: 0.2.24-1 (hoary), Packaged size: 4315 kB, Installed size: 6880 kB
[05:48] <nalioth_zZz> ubuntuuuu: look in /usr/share/backgrouds  or /usr/share/wallpaper(s)
[05:48] <ubuntuuuu> nalioth_zZz, thks, i'll take a look
[05:49] <robotgeek_away> nalioth_zZz: morning
[05:49] <Sonny_Wertzik> is there something else that will work as a flash plugin for firefox?
[05:49] <ubuntuuuu> it only has 2 images, nothing more
[05:50] <ubuntuuuu> aren't there any blue backgrounds? :|
[05:50] <Madeye> hi, guys, I have upgraded to breezy, but it's not detecting my keyboard, so Xorg wont run. now my question is, how to solve it, if not How to go back to hoary ?
[05:50] <ScislaC> Is it possible to dist-upgrade to AMD64?
[05:50] <nalioth_zZz> ubuntuuuu: then do as robotgeek suggested with "ubuntu-artwork"
[05:50] <ubuntuuuu> i'll give it a try
[05:50] <brenner> ubuntuuuu: haven't you heard? ubuntu's the brown distro
[05:50] <nalioth_zZz> Madeye: you wait for the updated pkg to come down
[05:50] <shadikka> It still says the same about no installation candidate for msttcorefonts.
[05:50] <ubuntuuuu> jeje, i prefer the blue
[05:50] <ubuntuuuu> :-)
[05:51] <nalioth_zZz> Madeye: goin back to hoary involves a complete reinstall
[05:51] <robotgeek> nalioth_zZz: there apparently is a problem with the ubuntu update in kernel ( linux-image-2.6.10-5-386 )
[05:51] <nalioth_zZz> robotgeek: as i've been tellin folks "breezy is broken"
[05:51] <robotgeek> nalioth_zZz: 2.6.10 is breezy?
[05:53] <HappyFool> nope. how is it broken?
[05:53] <HappyFool> (he said nervously, watching the linux-image update download)
[05:53] <Madeye> HappyFool xorg related problems
[05:53] <GhostFreeman> What files dictate what sessions Gnome runs on startup
[05:53] <wickedpuppy> does ubuntu have something have services ??? red-hat-config-services ...
[05:53] <HappyFool> sorry, i meant how is the linux-image update broken
[05:53] <robotgeek> nalioth_zZz: i have has 2 people's system refusing to boot. One i was able to help solve, the other i am still awaiting response
[05:53] <GhostFreeman> erm, processes
[05:53] <wickedpuppy> i need to change which are the services loaded at the boot time
[05:53] <NightBird> HappyFool, I'm getting a bunch of 302 Moved errors..
[05:53] <brenner> wickedpuppy: install rcconf
[05:53] <nalioth_zZz> robotgeek: 2.6.12
[05:53] <robotgeek> HappyFool: the PC apparently refuses to boot
[05:53] <HappyFool> robotgeek: suboptimal
[05:53] <robotgeek> nalioth_zZz: so that would be a hoary problem
[05:53] <robotgeek> HappyFool: ???
[05:53] <HappyFool> NightBird: on what URL, e.g. ?
[05:53] <nalioth_zZz> robotgeek: correct
[05:53] <NightBird> all of them
[05:54] <HappyFool> robotgeek: i.e., that's bad ;). sorry, silly joke
[05:54] <NightBird> and I already double checked them for being copied properly
[05:54] <Madeye> is there anyway to push my system to detect my keyboard? nalioth_zZz
[05:54] <HappyFool> NightBird: from the 'example' sources.list, you mean?
[05:54] <NightBird> yes
[05:54] <HappyFool> NightBird: stand-by
[05:54] <robotgeek> nalioth_zZz: filing a bug report without any additional info is useless :(
[05:54] <NightBird> should I try the other ip that is given to me? <IP_ADDRESS> 80 is what it says
[05:56] <ubuntuuuu> aren't there packages for beagle?
[05:56] <HappyFool> NightBird: i'm browsing archive.ubuntu.com fine; let me try the Release and Packages.gz files
[05:56] <ekimus> hi, is the server install a special set of packages (server stuff preselected) or just a subset of normal install without X?
[05:56] <NightBird> ok
[05:56] <shadikka> I have a problem with apt-getting msttcorefonts and I do have all the repositories set (and apt-get update'd) now... :/
[05:56] <shadikka> ("no installation candidates for package")
[05:57] <HappyFool> NightBird: can you browse this url http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/hoary/Release in firefox?
[05:57] <robotgeek> did i miss anything, my net went down suddenly?
[05:57] <NightBird> HappyFool, I'm unable to bring up graphics mode
[05:58] <HappyFool> NightBird: hmm
[05:58] <HappyFool> NightBird: ok, try   wget http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/hoary/Release
[05:58] <NightBird> gah
[05:58] <NightBird> I know what the problem is...
[05:58] <NightBird> ugh
[05:58] <NightBird> how to fix it...
[05:58] <juan4ever> hi
[05:59] <HappyFool> http proxy?
[05:59] <robotgeek> anyways, i am off to bed now.
[05:59] <NightBird> the problem is, is that there is a thing on my schools network that filters out certain sites... and you have to log in to be able to go to websites...
[05:59] <NightBird> so kind of
[05:59] <NightBird> ok... I didn't want to do it, but I'm going to have too...
[06:00] <HappyFool> NightBird: you can maybe use the http_proxy variable to specify a web-proxy to use; you may even be able to add a username password to the url (I can't remember the syntax)
[06:00] <Tadej`Certanc> hi
[06:00] <Tadej`Certanc> what does this mean?
[06:00] <Tadej`Certanc> 17:56:31.934543 PPPoE  [ses 0xaa0]  [length 9 (67 extra bytes)]  IP truncated-ip - 189 bytes missing! sinet.ad.jp.domain > infinity.unixrulz.net.34013:  6766*- 1/4/6 (235
[06:00] <HappyFool> NightBird: if it's a windows-only proxy, you can install ntlmaps (download the .deb, and use dpkg to install it)
[06:00] <sylvan> hmm.. I'm trying to write an iso to a disk, but it keeps saying "insert blank disc" even though there is a blank disc in there...
[06:00] <NightBird> HappyFool, it's not what I would call a proxy really..
[06:00] <sylvan> ideas?
[06:00] <sylvan> I'm using the "right-click, write to CD" program
[06:00] <NightBird> I'll bbiab...
[06:00] <environ> hi! im using the preview breezy release. i installed the nvidia drivers, they seem to work, too, but glxgears is very slow, do you know why?
[06:01] <paulproteus|lapt> sylvan: Do you have two CD/DVD drives?
[06:01] <sylvan> yes
[06:01] <paulproteus|lapt> sylvan: It's probably picking the wrong one.
[06:01] <juan4ever> sorry, can anybodu helpme?
[06:01] <endy_x> environ, mine are too but enemy territory and other GL apps are fine :S
[06:01] <paulproteus|lapt> I always use k3b for burning, so I don't know about the right-click-to-burn thing.
[06:01] <sylvan> only one of them is a burner, and that's the only option in the drop-down
[06:02] <juan4ever> i cant install my sound blaster live 24bits
[06:02] <endy_x> environ, also the gears screensaver is fine, its a bug i guess
[06:02] <environ> ok nice maybe its an refresh rate thingy ^^, how new are the drivers ?
[06:02] <endy_x> environ, mine are fine :)
[06:04] <bosshoff> hey guys, I really want to get a bunch of little tux-replace-windows key stickers so I can pass them out in my LUG; anyone know where I can get a bunch for pretty cheap?
[06:05] <juan4ever> can someone helpme?
[06:05] <endy_x> bosshoff, I don't know but you could buy them a bunch of these if you have some spare cash http://www.cherrycorp.com/english/cymotion-line/cymotion-line_master_linux.htm
[06:05] <sylvan> are there any other cd-burner programs that are easy-to-use and good?
[06:06] <shadikka> Now this is getting even better :S gstreamer0.8-lame0 won't install... ("no installation candidate")
[06:06] <juan4ever> please, i cant install drivers for my sound blaster 24 bits
[06:06] <endy_x> sylvan, last ime i used gnome-baker it was good :)
[06:06] <HappyFool> shadikka: put your sources.list on the pastebin
[06:06] <sylvan> endy_x, thanks
[06:06] <shadikka> HappyFool, ok
[06:06] <endy_x> sylvan, and it's a gui if thats what you want
[06:06] <brenner> juan4ever: search the wiki & forum...there's bound to be a subject on sound blaster install
[06:06] <HappyFool> or look at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 for a sample sources.list
[06:07] <sylvan> endy_x, yeah I prefer a GUI
[06:07] <juan4ever> brenner: i already do that, i have followed a lot of guides
[06:07] <B|ueMat> Im having problems with I think the mplayer plugin for firefox, when I try to view a quicktime streaming movie, it starts loading but freezes at more less 25%, anyone else come across this issue?
[06:07] <nalioth> bluesceada: d/l the movie directly
[06:08] <sylvan> dammit! gnome baker also complains that there isn't a blank cd in the cd writer when I know for a fact that there is!
[06:08] <endy_x> sylvan, have you ejected the cd and reloaded it?
[06:09] <sylvan> ah sorry, no it didn't.. it just gave me a popup telling me to insert a blank cd, I assumed it wouldn't pop up since there already was a blank cd in...
[06:09] <sylvan> cliking ok and it started burning
[06:09] <shadikka> HappyFool, ok, I used that sample (replacing the "hoary" with "breezy" :)
[06:09] <shadikka> And thanks, it works now ^_^
[06:10] <HappyFool> shadikka: good stuff
[06:10] <shadikka> indeed.
[06:10] <nalioth> bluemat d/l the movie directly
[06:10] <sylvan> oay, so I'm burning the new preview release... Is it possible to just upgrade to the new ubuntu so I won't have to reinstall all my apps?
[06:10] <B|ueMat> nalioth, i want to stream from apple trailers, I shouldnt really have to?
[06:11] <leopold> ubuntu doesnt detect my second hard drive what can I do?
[06:11] <nalioth> sylvan: *nix is designed to never need "reinstalling".  upgrading is very convenient using apt-get
[06:11] <B|ueMat> leopold, Are you sure its an ubuntu issue and not a BIOS issue?
[06:11] <sylvan> nalioth, so what do I need to do to upgrade ubuntu to the new breezy preview?
[06:12] <sylvan> I'm burning the installation CD now
[06:12] <shadikka> apt-get update ubuntu-core? (or do I remember quite my own wonders now?)
[06:12] <leopold> BlueMat yes i am sure cause its os in windows and bootable
[06:12] <pinucset> what is update ubuntu-core?..
[06:12] <ugo> does anyone know how to permanently enable lo on ubuntu
[06:12] <shadikka> No idea. ^.^ Just remembered something like that (eeeeh, so don't count on it)
[06:12] <nalioth> sylvan: i dont recommend updating at this time but if you must
[06:13] <leopold> ubuntu doesnt detect my second hard drive what can I do?
[06:13] <nalioth> !tell sylvan about upgrade2breezy
[06:13] <ugo> mine always goes down when i reboot
[06:13] <ugo> !tell ugo about openafs
[06:13] <ubuntuuuu> as anyone manage to integrate beagle in gnome like spotlight in mac os x? opensuse 10.x has something similiar and it is very useful
[06:13] <aru> !tell aru about upgrade2breezy
[06:13] <sylvan> nalioth, thanks
[06:14] <ugo> also does anyone know about configuring openafs on hoary?
[06:14] <B|ueMat> leopold, yeah but i had a similar problem, windows could see the disk, but funnilyenough the bios wasnt detecting it
[06:14] <oolon> ugo it should be in /etc/network/interfacrs
[06:14] <ugo> id really appreciate the help
[06:14] <pedrobest> could anyone help me with a sudo/su issue in my kubuntu install?
[06:14] <oolon> *** /etc/network/interfaces
[06:14] <B|ueMat> nalioth, did you see my reply..^^^
[06:14] <leopold> BueMat its 100% not a bios prob...bios detects it
[06:14] <B|ueMat> nalioth, i want to stream from apple trailers, I shouldnt really have to?
[06:14] <sylvan> is the breezy preview very unstable or what?
[06:14] <paulw> pedrobest, whare are you stuck at?
[06:15] <oolon> pedrobest, whats the prob
[06:15] <pedrobest> i cant seem to make sudo work
[06:15] <NB_Ubuntu> ok... I updated, I installed nvtv, and now I want to know what I need to do to actually get it working...
[06:15] <brenner> pedrobest: how so?
[06:15] <shadikka> Yeeeeeesh~, now I can play mp3s ^^ ->
[06:15] <brenner> pedrobest: you using *your* password?
[06:15] <paulw> pedrobest, sudo should work fine if you only have one user account because it's automatically in the sudoers file
[06:15] <pedrobest> sudo and then anything in konsole just replys an error
[06:16] <oolon> pedrobest, you need to use the root password
[06:16] <paulw> pedrobest, however, if you're used to su, it doesn't work
[06:16] <brenner> pedrobest: what error?
[06:16] <pedrobest> its on a difference pc in a differnet room so im just gonna go an remember the error
[06:17] <SanderD> Hi. Can I easily switch from amd64 to i386/686, or should I reinstall Ubuntu then?
[06:17] <SanderD> (I've got an Athlon64, but I want to use i386 applications.)
[06:17] <brenner> SanderD: from what i've heard, easier to reinsatll
[06:17] <paulproteus|lapt> SanderD: If you can, just find i386 versions.
[06:17] <paulproteus|lapt> Otherwise, create an i386 chroot.
[06:17] <paulproteus|lapt> SanderD: If you can, just find amd64 versions, I mean.
[06:18] <nalioth> B|ueMat: you have a very tricky nick to type
[06:18] <nalioth> B|ueMat: the newer apple quicktime codecs are not well viewed in linux
[06:18] <SanderD> paulproteus|lapt: Will an i386 chroot work as well as an i386 system (with games, for example)? Does having amd64 have any advantages?
[06:18] <poypoy> Are there any good X newsreaders (downloaders) for gnome? (must be able to read .nbz's
[06:19] <NightBird> haha!
[06:19] <NightBird> a winner is I!
[06:19] <maskuri> haloo
[06:19] <NightBird> nvtv is setup, and it is now displaying to the tv
[06:19] <evelina> haha :P
[06:20] <delltony> morning: anyone here know how to get mplayer and the mozilla-mplayer installed on breezy?
[06:20] <NightBird> ....
[06:20] <pedrobest> i try sudo passwd to set root password - is that right?
[06:20] <pedrobest> then it comes back with an error about not being able to lookup gethostbyname() and it cant find a public/pickup dir
[06:20] <DavidSWe> Is there anyone that has a Toshiba laptop that can tell me how to get the battery monitor working and some powersaving functions?
[06:20] <GhostFreeman> j #interdictor-politics
[06:20] <GhostFreeman> oops
[06:20] <nalioth> poypoy: use synaptic to search "pkg names and contents" for nzb
[06:21] <nalioth> poypoy: otw, search sourceforge.net
[06:21] <maskuri> haloo
[06:21] <NightBird> ok... now it's color, but it's all off..
[06:23] <ugo> openafs on ubuntu anyone?
[06:23] <maskuri> cah ngendi
[06:23] <ugo> does anyone have experience installing it?
[06:23] <ugo> i get this error when i try to start the client
[06:24] <Hoxzer> is it possible to import opera bookmarks to mozzilla?
[06:24] <ugo> afsd: some file missing or bad in /etc/openafs
[06:24] <ugo> i have all the files set up correctly i believe
[06:24] <Gobbla> umm i did killall ess to be able to play a game... but now i cant listen to music... what can I do about that except rebooting?
[06:24] <enyc> gobb: yes, run 'esd' again ;p
[06:24] <enyc> gobb: it will beep, and esd will be back aain
[06:25] <enyc> gobb: or rather, "esd&" to run esd in the background
[06:25] <pedrobest> brenner: i try sudo passwd to set root password - is that right?
[06:25] <pedrobest> then it comes back with an error about not being able to lookup gethostbyname() and it cant find a public/pickup dir
[06:25] <enyc> gobb: also, you can  install 'esound-clients' and  run the game through "esddsp" which will allow you to play the game through esd sound without needing to killall esd
[06:25] <Gobbla> jocke@h148n1fls32o887:~$ /dev/dsp: Device or resource busy
[06:26] <thrush_2> pedro sudo su then type passwd- but not a good idea
[06:26] <digitalfox|sleep> Gobbla> are you sure the game is completely dead?
[06:26] <zenrox> pedrobest, try sudo -s
[06:26] <digitalfox|sleep> any leftover processes?
[06:26] <Gobbla> yeah
[06:26] <pedrobest> sudo -s does what
[06:26] <h17m4n> what's a good dvd burning app? I need to burn a distro's iso
[06:26] <Gobbla> or let me check to be absolutely sure
[06:26] <zenrox> pedrobest, gives you a root concole
[06:26] <digitalfox|sleep> Gobbla> yeh
[06:26] <enyc> gobb: interesting computer name -- h148n1fls32o887
[06:27] <h17m4n> Hey Gobbla.... did you read that thread I sent u
[06:27] <Gobbla> digitalfox|sleep: yeah it iss
[06:27] <Gobbla> *is
[06:27] <Gobbla> h17m4n: about what?
[06:27] <digitalfox|sleep> lsof | grep /dev/dsp
[06:27] <Gobbla> ive fixed the gfxcard now
[06:27] <ugo> bah...come on guys...this is kinda painful...
[06:27] <Gobbla> it lags some though..
[06:27] <ugo> id really appreciate the help
[06:27] <h17m4n> nice
[06:27] <Seveas-SFD> digitalfox|sleep, lsof /dev/dsp (works too :)
[06:27] <h17m4n> Gobbla: About the latest ati drivers
[06:27] <digitalfox|sleep> didn't know that
[06:27] <brenner> ugo: searched the forum?
[06:28] <digitalfox|sleep> I thuoght fuser did that
[06:28] <Gobbla> nope i didnt, got the link?
[06:28] <h17m4n> Hold on
[06:28] <Gobbla> or maybe i did, but i can check again if that is :)
[06:28] <Gobbla> ive read so many i dunno if you gave me one too :)
[06:28] <B|ueMat> nalioth, I know what you mean, but I had no issues with MPlayer and QT when I was running Fedora..
[06:28] <jennifer> huh?
[06:28] <jennifer> hello?
[06:29] <Gobbla> digitalfox|sleep: what does that do?
[06:29] <digitalfox|sleep> that tells you if it's being used and by what
[06:29] <Gobbla> its just blank
[06:29] <Gobbla> should i cancel it?
[06:29] <jennifer> no
[06:29] <evelina> I dont get how I can use all canals
[06:29] <katox> hi
[06:29] <jennifer> hi
[06:29] <lemur> wat up, home dog
[06:29] <jennifer> nothin
[06:29] <jennifer> really
[06:29] <jennifer> how are you
[06:30] <Gobbla> digitalfox|sleep: now it showed me
[06:30] <jennifer> can you people read this?
[06:30] <evelina> haha are somebody from sweden?
[06:30] <lemur> I'm not that great, but don't mind
[06:30] <Gobbla> evelina: yeah
[06:30] <jennifer> oh ok
[06:30] <Gobbla> digitalfox|sleep: but i cant end the process..
[06:30] <jennifer> so who is this?
[06:30] <digitalfox|sleep> Gobbla> does something in there look like a PID?
[06:30] <pedrobest> im sure my / should contain a puplic directory
[06:30] <lemur> I know what distro I'M switching to..
[06:30] <nalioth> B|ueMat: you have me at an advantage. i run ppc and cant watch that stuff in the first place
[06:30] <jennifer> what are ou guys talkin about
[06:30] <digitalfox|sleep> what is the process's name?
[06:30] <Gobbla> digitalfox|sleep: tuxpuck   10671      jocke    5w      CHR       14,3               8402 /dev/dsp
[06:30] <Gobbla> cant end it though
[06:31] <digitalfox|sleep> kill -9 10671
[06:31] <Gobbla> through the system overviewer or what its called in english..
[06:31] <brenner> lemur: you _do_ know that ahem, most chicks really aren't?
[06:31] <Seveas-SFD> jennifer, this is a support channel for Ubuntu, not a general chat channel
[06:31] <shadikka> Oookay, now I do have the sync rates for my monitor; so can someone tell me how to force a sync rate for the screen? ^.^
[06:31] <digitalfox|sleep> killall -9 tuxpuck would work too
[06:31] <Seveas-SFD> shadikka, set it in  xorg.conf
[06:31] <evelina> okej..
[06:31] <paulw> how do i get crossover menu's to show up in gnome?
[06:31] <Gobbla> what does -9 do?
[06:31] <shadikka> Seveas, thanks.
[06:31] <Gobbla> digitalfox|sleep:
[06:31] <jennifer> does anyone have aim?
[06:31] <nalioth> Seveas-SFD: SFD?
[06:31] <Gobbla> jennifer: yeah
[06:31] <h17m4n> Gobbla: Here's one: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=22496&highlight=latest+ati - And another: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=32495&highlight=latest+ati
[06:31] <Seveas-SFD> nalioth, software freedom day
[06:31] <jennifer> oh what is your sn
[06:31] <Gobbla> jennifer: sorry no
[06:32] <Gobbla> saw wrong
[06:32] <nalioth> Seveas-SFD: ah, well happy birthday
[06:32] <Seveas-SFD> jennifer, we don't do that in here
[06:32] <h17m4n> Gobbla: Make sure you replace the driver version there for the latest on ATI's site
[06:32] <Seveas-SFD> jennifer, this is a support channel for Ubuntu, not a general chat channel
[06:32] <evelina> Is this like.. a chat?
[06:32] <jennifer> dont do what
[06:32] <paulw> jennifer, auso apt-get install gaim
[06:32] <Gobbla> digitalfox|sleep: what does -9 do?
[06:32] <nalioth> jennifer: this is the ubuntu support channel, if you'd like to yak, join #ubuntu-offtopic
[06:32] <paulw> jennifer, err, that's sudo apt-get install gaim
[06:32] <Gobbla> h17m4n: aight
[06:32] <Gobbla> thx
[06:32] <jennifer> ok well im leaving
[06:32] <jennifer> this is stupid
[06:32] <jennifer> cya
[06:32] <digitalfox|sleep> Gobbla> forces kill
[06:32] <Gobbla> :D
[06:32] <shadikka> Where do those come from o.O :D
[06:33] <digitalfox|sleep> -9 is "die NOW"
[06:33] <nalioth> jennifer: install ubuntu and come back
[06:33] <Gobbla> digitalfox|sleep: ok
[06:33] <paulw> stupid is as stupid does
[06:33] <jennifer> i already have it
[06:33] <jennifer> duh
[06:33] <Gobbla> now it works digitalfox|sleep thanks alot..
[06:33] <evelina> Men gah fattar ju fan ingenting buh bye suckerz
[06:33] <digitalfox> Gobbla> anytime
[06:33] <Gobbla> :)
[06:33] <digitalfox> Gobbla> you should probably report a bug to the tuxpuck team
[06:33] <Seveas-SFD> evelina, this is a support channel, not for general chatter
[06:34] <Gobbla> okay
[06:34] <lemur> Seveas-SFD: Where is the general channel for ubuntu?
[06:34] <shadikka> Err, where is xorg.conf? *^^''*
[06:34] <Gobbla> heh, girls, what can ya say :D
[06:34] <kurt> shadikka, : /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[06:34] <paulw> shadikka, /etc/X11/
[06:34] <Seveas-SFD> lemur, this is the channe; for #ubuntu
[06:34] <shadikka> Thanks ^^
[06:34] <h17m4n> Question: What's a good DVD iso burning utility? K3b didn't even get past 0% on my first try.
[06:34] <paulw> h17m4n, nerolinux
[06:34] <brenner> lemur: /topic
[06:34] <Seveas-SFD> if you want to have a general chatter, find another channel (#ubuntu-offtopic may work)
[06:35] <lemur> Well, what I mean is, not *everything* must be support-related, right?
[06:35] <Zacar> hey i was wondering, i've just installed Ubuntu and running it now, I have two 5 gig partitions and one 70 gig partition, could someone tell me how i could install or where i could read up how to install windows xp onto one of those 5 gig partitions?
[06:35] <Seveas-SFD> lemur, support, discussion...
[06:35] <nalioth> lemur: if you want to yak about asl and all that rot, it's #ubuntu-offtopic
[06:35] <h17m4n> paulw: could I apt-get it or download a package?
[06:35] <samu2> i got an error when trying to update the kernel through the update thingy in the access bar. anything special that needs to be done for it to work?
[06:35] <Seveas-SFD> samu2, what is the error?
[06:35] <paulw> h17m4n, there is a .deb of it at www.nero.com
[06:35] <h17m4n> no apt-get for it :(
[06:36] <brenner> Zacar: just boot off the windows CD and install on the partition
[06:36] <Gobbla> Zacar: I would install xp first
[06:36] <shadikka> Okay, I'm so very beginning to feel that it probably reads somewhere in the manual but just exactly what do I have to type to the xorg.conf to get a refresh rate forced? :/
[06:36] <brenner> Zacar: you'll have to reinstall the bootloader though...xp wipes it out
[06:36] <samu2> Seveas-SFD, its 4 lines long, should i pastebin it?
[06:36] <shadikka> !xorg
[06:36] <ubotu> xorg is, like, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[06:36] <Seveas-SFD> samu2, or in a private message :)
[06:37] <No1Viking> !locales
[06:37] <ubotu> No1Viking: What?
[06:37] <Zacar> where could i do that brenner and how?
[06:37] <shadikka> !xorg.conf
[06:37] <ubotu> shadikka: Did you get hit by a windmill?
[06:37] <brenner> shadikka: it picks the highest rate available for that res.
[06:37] <paulw> Zacar, what he means is, it's better to install win first
[06:37] <brenner> Zacar: there's a grub restore topic on the wiki
[06:37] <h17m4n> hmm nerolinux is 32 bit only... I'm trying to burn a dvd so I could install a 32 bit distro :-/
[06:37] <shadikka> brenner, yeah, but it won't detect it right.  Is there a Tarantella Secure Desktop clone for Linux theat I can use on my deb box to log to remote machine that supports Tarantella, so I don't have to switch to Windoze
[06:38] <h17m4n> whoa thx... let me try some of those
[06:38] <Zacar> thanks brenner
[06:38] <pedrobest> thanks ill be back later
[06:38] <wold> hi.. how can I detect my isa sound card?
[06:39] <No1Viking> How can I get my swedish characters work in filenames?
[06:39] <wold> I've asked about it long time ago.. got it working then.. but dont remember now
[06:39] <wold> ?? isa
[06:39] <CookedGryphon> hey everybody, i'm still sorting my winmodem, i have written a script that uninstalls it, recompiles and reboots after every use and this seems to make it work, does anyone have any ideas how i can work out what's stopping it working more than once? some process that doesn't quit or something perhaps
[06:39] <Seveas-SFD> drasko, which protocol does tantarella use?
[06:40] <brenner> shadikka: what res you running?
[06:40] <shadikka> brenner, ATM 1024x768, want to run 1280x960 (and yeah, I was able to get that one there already)
[06:41] <brenner> shadikka: so you've done the res fix?
[06:41] <paulw> anyone use crossover office?
[06:41] <brenner> to get 1280
[06:41] <paulw> i need help getting the gnome menus to show up for installed apps
[06:42] <shadikka> brenner, edited xorg.conf. It had 1280x1024, but that's only 60Hz for this monitor and I can't stand it.
[06:42] <endy_x> paulw, try installing "smeg" it a menu editor
[06:42] <vladuz976> when is brezzy coming out?
[06:42] <brenner> shadikka: your rates probably aren't right
[06:42] <paulw> endy_x, got that
[06:42] <shadikka> brenner, yes, that just _might_ be... x)
[06:42] <nalioth> vladuz976: mid october (next month)
[06:42] <demantik> anybody know why i cant 'sudo' things...says password is wrong,yet i can 'su' an password works
[06:42] <lambic> where can I access my gfx card setting, the only refresh rate I got is 60hz????????????
[06:43] <brenner> shadikka: sudo ddcprobe | grep monitorrange
[06:43] <shadikka> ok
[06:43] <brenner> lambic: you too....your rates probably aren't correct
[06:43] <shadikka> brenner: 30-70, 50-160
[06:43] <brenner> shadikka: does that match xorg.conf?
[06:44] <shadikka> brenner, let's see..
[06:44] <brenner> horizsync and vertrefresh
[06:44] <MrBear> hi people
[06:44] <h17m4n> When I try to burn with k3b, I get this: paste on #flood
[06:44] <shadikka> brenner, I can't find those there :D
[06:44] <demantik> any1?
[06:44] <brenner> shadikka: no moniitor section?
[06:44] <MrBear> I finally got ubuntu installed
[06:44] <shadikka> brenner, monitor section has "Option DPMS"
[06:44] <andre_r> hey, how can i give the mounted hard drives in computer:/// more meaningful names?
[06:44] <shadikka> and identifier
[06:44] <brenner> shadikka: that's just the power save mode iirc
[06:45] <demantik> anybody...lol..
[06:45] <shadikka> brenner, ok... x)
[06:45] <MrBear> I love it
[06:45] <katox> does anyone know if something like this is planned for upcoming breezy release? http://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-users/2005-July/041909.html
[06:45] <brenner> shadikka: no wonder......your rates aren't even entered
[06:45] <brenner> shadikka: add lines below the DPMS one like this:
[06:45] <brenner> HorizSync   31.5 - 68.7
[06:45] <brenner>         VertRefresh 50 - 150
[06:45] <brenner> shadikka: change the rates to match yours
[06:45] <shadikka> brenner, roger that.
[06:46] <brenner> demantik: you using *your* passowrd?
[06:46] <chaitat> jsp server for ubuntu?
[06:46] <endy_x> shadikka, be careful if you put really bad number in you can break your monitor :o
[06:46] <shadikka> endy_x, yeah, ddcprobe'd it :)
[06:46] <demantik> nope
[06:46] <shadikka> brenner, and then?
[06:47] <brenner> shadikka: save and close, then restart X
[06:47] <shadikka> OK.
[06:47] <brenner> shadikka: oh
[06:47] <shadikka> yeah?
[06:47] <brenner> shadikka: ah, nvm....go ahead
[06:47] <brenner> :)
[06:47] <brenner> you already answered what i was gonna ask
[06:47] <Hoxzer> :E
[06:47] <brenner> demantik: that's why
[06:48] <nalioth> brenner: why are you always in here raisin cain?
[06:48] <brenner> nalioth: just to bug you. :P
[06:48] <CookedGryphon> how do i set xchat to automatically load clicked urls in firefox instead of me having to right click?
[06:48] <CookedGryphon> i'm right clicking to say open in web browser n that's jsut weird
[06:49] <deFrysk> CookedGryphon, klik it with left mouse button ?
[06:49] <CookedGryphon> er, yeah and then i does nothign
[06:49] <nalioth> brenner: doesnt bug me 'tall
[06:49] <brenner> CookedGryphon: ask in #xchat.....helpful  people in there.
[06:49] <deFrysk> nope does not work
[06:49] <nalioth> brenner: c'mon man
[06:49] <nalioth> CookedGryphon: you using gnome?
[06:50] <CookedGryphon> yup
[06:50] <brenner> nalioth: what? it's true. :)
[06:50] <nalioth> CookedGryphon: firefox is your default browser/
[06:50] <poypoy> Is there a way to run 32bit apps on 64bit? :\ Can't install flash
[06:50] <delltony> anyone know where i can find mozilla-mplayer and mplayer for breezy or does it exist?
[06:50] <nalioth> poypoy: in a chroot environment
[06:51] <poypoy> ...
[06:51] <nalioth> delltony: it may not exist yet
[06:51] <delltony> ok
[06:51] <dawynn> When I log on to a console session, it says I have "new mail".  I'm certain that this is just local system mail, but how do I read the mail?
[06:51] <poypoy> I'll google chroot
[06:51] <delltony> wanting to view stuff from launch.yahoo but i have no way to do it :(
[06:51] <endy_x> poypoy, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24575 may help
[06:52] <CookedGryphon> brenner, i thought u said they were friendly in #xchat?
[06:52] <jMi> dawynn: just type mail and hit returnn
[06:52] <nalioth> CookedGryphon: did they cook your goose in #xchat?
[06:52] <darkinca> hi i got a problem with the live cd
[06:52] <CookedGryphon> they were very rude
[06:52] <billy> dawynn: from cl type mail
[06:52] <CookedGryphon> i asked
[06:52] <Jhair> dawynn, with mail
[06:52] <CookedGryphon> n they said ctrl+click
[06:53] <CookedGryphon> i said is there any way to make it so u just click
[06:53] <CookedGryphon> and they said "No."
[06:53] <nalioth> CookedGryphon: as long as they didnt suggest an anatomically incorrect place to ctrl-click
[06:53] <dawynn> Can I set up, say Thunderbird or KMail to read this "mail"?
[06:53] <oolon> popey, also look at this for flash on 64bit http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Install_firefox_with_flash_and_java_on_amd64
[06:53] <brenner> CookedGryphon: i can't left-click either
[06:53] <shadikka> brenner, no help :/
[06:53] <pmjdebruijn> lo all
[06:53] <poypoy> thanks endy_x
[06:54] <darkinca> i always got an error when there is standing snapshots config and then back to the menu
[06:54] <brenner> CookedGryphon: if that's what you define as rude...you haven't been an IRCer very long. :-/
[06:54] <endy_x> lol
[06:54] <brenner> shadikka: ok.....what's your monitor?
[06:54] <oolon> poypoy, http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Install_firefox_with_flash_and_java_on_amd64
[06:54] <CookedGryphon> brenner all my irc experience has been in this lil room, and everyone here is soo noce
[06:54] <shadikka> brenner, Samtron 76E
[06:54] <CookedGryphon> ] nice*
[06:54] <poypoy> Thanka oolon
[06:54] <brenner> shadikka: you sure it can actually use a higher rate than 60 at that res.?
[06:55] <brenner> CookedGryphon: you've been spoilt :)
[06:55] <shadikka> brenner, yes, I used 72Hz in Windows.
[06:55] <oolon> poypoy, i switched to a 32 bit install but i may try 64 again soon
[06:55] <brenner> shadikka: ok, then...
[06:55] <nalioth> CookedGryphon: then never go anywhere else
[06:55] <Faust>
[06:55] <CookedGryphon> i don't plan to
[06:55] <nalioth> nalioth: we are the exception (mostly) in here
[06:55] <shik45> anyone here use Gnoppix
[06:55] <brenner> shadikka: what  usually do is google your monitor and "xorg" to get someone else's rates to check the probed ones are correct
[06:56] <oolon> CookedGryphon, if you want pain you can go into  #debian and tell them you run Ubuntu
[06:56] <CookedGryphon> it was brenner's fault ileft in the first place
[06:56] <poypoy> oolon, the only _real_ trouble I have is with WLAN
[06:56] <shadikka> brenner, ok.
[06:56] <nalioth> CookedGryphon: we are the exception in here (mostly)
[06:56] <poypoy> linux-wlan-ng doesn't have 64bit version
[06:56] <poypoy> I don't think so anyway
[06:56] <nalioth> CookedGryphon: yes, brenner is always causing trouble
[06:56] <CookedGryphon> ooh that'll b fun, who's coming with me! let's invade #debian and start saying how great ubuntu is
[06:56] <oolon> poypoy, oh, I have a wired network :)
[06:56] <delltony> the win32codecs are they available for breezy yet?
[06:56] <brenner> CookedGryphon: lol, they gave you an answer didn't they?
[06:56] <darkinca> can somebody help me??
[06:57] <CookedGryphon> tru, but it would have been better if they'd said no, sorry that's all you can do
[06:57] <linuxpoet> Is there a respository (say testing, or beta or something) that I could get Gnome 2.12
[06:57] <sJaM> why do some programs not appear in the menu after installing them via apt, while it use to be on my previous comp?
[06:57] <brenner> shadikka: actually, using HorizSync as a keyword is better
[06:57] <CookedGryphon> darkinca, jsut ask away
[06:57] <oolon> darkinca, whats the error
[06:57] <shadikka> brenner, :D
[06:57] <endy_x> linuxpoet, you can only do it on ubuntu with the breezy preview afaik
[06:57] <brenner> CookedGryphon: trust me, in other channels, they'd go: "no...piss of newbie."
[06:58] <poypoy> oolon, I have part wired and part wireless, the antenna's on my wlan/pc touch, but other people can't access it if I don't do it this way
[06:58] <linuxpoet> :(
[06:58] <poypoy> Gonna buy a hub soon, so I can plug myself wired, and others can still get on WLAN
[06:58] <CookedGryphon> brenner, i'm not quite a newbie any more.. i'm learning
[06:58] <brenner> nalioth: bully
[06:58] <billy> dawynn: not sure about Thunderbird or Kmail, but you can with Evolution
[06:58] <endy_x> linuxpoet, in a week or so it will be released and stable, just wait a little longer :)
[06:58] <shadikka> afk ->
[06:59] <poypoy> One question: Is there a way to download a certain file from terminal..? just like... 'download http;//blabla.com/file.bla'?
[06:59] <darkinca> i got the live cd and it doesn't work, i got an error after snapshot config
[06:59] <Jhair> poypoy, wget
[06:59] <endy_x> poypoy, "man wget"
[06:59] <NB_Ubuntu> hm..
[06:59] <linuxpoet> well if it is going to be released in a week, maybe I should do a dist-upgrade :)
[06:59] <nalioth> brenner: you mean billy, dont you?
[06:59] <MrBear> you guys know how to maniuall install flash for mozilla?
[06:59] <NB_Ubuntu> ok, so I'm trying to get nvtv to work properly..
[06:59] <brenner> sJaM: afaik, 'cos the packager didn't add menu entry configs.....
[06:59] <endy_x> linuxpoet, well maybe mroe than a week :)
[06:59] <endy_x> more*
[06:59] <nalioth> MrBear: you running i386?
[06:59] <MrBear> yes
[06:59] <sJaM> it did on my previous comp
[07:00] <nalioth> !tell MrBear about flash
[07:00] <NB_Ubuntu> when the system is pal, it's nice and clean, but it's black and white.  if I run ntsc, it's color, but it's terribly interlaced...
[07:00] <CookedGryphon> poypoy or u could get proz zwhich is a command line download manager
[07:00] <LethAL-Rocks> How can I sudo a script on startup?
[07:00] <poypoy> thanks :)
[07:00] <CookedGryphon> poypoy and supports resuma and splitting files
[07:00] <nalioth> CookedGryphon: please, man, proz is overkill for anything under 100mb
[07:00] <Dr_Willis> proz = prozilla , wget is also handy.
[07:00] <NB_Ubuntu> any suggestions?
[07:00] <CookedGryphon> nalioth, u dunno what he's downloading
[07:00] <GNU-GPL> LethAL-Rocks, why you want that?
[07:01] <LethAL-Rocks> speedtouchconf
[07:01] <brenner> nalioth: picking on billy now too?
[07:02] <LethAL-Rocks> GNU-GPL, is it possible somehow?
[07:02] <endy_x> LethAL-Rocks, put the commands in a file like /etc/init.d/local and "sudo update-rc.d local defaults"
[07:02] <endy_x> LethAL-Rocks, that will run on boot
[07:02] <LethAL-Rocks> Ah, ty
[07:02] <brenner> sJaM: the same package? :-/
[07:02] <GNU-GPL> endy_x, that's not what he asked
[07:02] <nalioth> brenner: i thought you mis-hit your tab key
[07:02] <sJaM> yes brenner
[07:02] <GNU-GPL> ;)
[07:02] <sJaM> gvim
[07:03] <endy_x> GNU-GPL, my bad, I take it back
[07:03] <brenner> sJaM: tried a killall gnome-panel?
[07:03] <GNU-GPL> endy_x, though i think he wanted what you replied.. (bad question of him ;))
[07:03] <GNU-GPL> hehe
[07:03] <LethAL-Rocks> lol
[07:03] <dawynn> Billy -- where do I get evolution?  It's not listed in Synaptic!
[07:03] <endy_x> :)
[07:03] <MrBear> alright I am so lost
[07:04] <darkinca> i got an error (enter preinstalled sesion) instalationstep failed; the only thing i can do is <next> then i go to the main menu
[07:04] <CookedGryphon> okay i've decided i hate totem, what's the best and easiest to install dvd player?
[07:04] <GNU-GPL> dawynn, installed by default?
[07:04] <nalioth> dawynn: do you have all your repos enabled/
[07:04] <sJaM> yes
[07:04] <dawynn> ?? With Kubuntu?
[07:04] <trygvebw> CookedGryphon: Ogle
[07:04] <billy> dawynn: you sure>
[07:04] <nalioth> MrBear: how lost are ya?
[07:04] <billy> dawynn: you sure?
[07:04] <darkinca>  i got an error (enter preinstalled sesion) instalationstep failed; the only thing i can do is <next> then i go to the main menu
[07:05] <Jhair> totem+gstreamer is just a mess, try mplayer it works most of the time
[07:05] <eno> could I have some advice please?  How could I install Linux (Ubuntu preferably) onto a computer whose BIOS I can't access and has no floppy drive?
[07:05] <_pir> helo, How do I disable/ (turn off ) the samba client, ..  Thanks.
[07:05] <pmjdebruijn> Jhair, hardly...
[07:05] <GNU-GPL> eno: cd install?
[07:05] <endy_x> CookedGryphon, some pople like VLC
[07:05] <eno> it wont boot from cd
[07:05] <Dr_Willis> _pir,  you mean the samba SERVER/Service?
[07:05] <LethAL-Rocks> You have windows atm?
[07:05] <AdmiralCrunch> I love VLC, fantastic video player
[07:05] <dawynn> Hmm.  Synaptics been a little iffy on searches lately.  It found it this time.
[07:06] <LethAL-Rocks> (eno)
[07:06] <eno> what is windows ATM?
[07:06] <AdmiralCrunch> So since the prview release came out, when we type apt-get dist-upgrade we will get that now eh?
[07:06] <LethAL-Rocks> Are you using windows?
[07:06] <GNU-GPL> (ATM=at this moment
[07:06] <LethAL-Rocks> ^^
[07:06] <eno> well yes windows is on that computer right now
[07:06] <sJaM> didn't work brenner
[07:07] <GNU-GPL> AdmiralCrunch, a suprise!
[07:07] <_pir> Dr_Willis: I think yes, I just dont want to be (see / be seen) in the ms network neighborhood
[07:07] <GNU-GPL> :)
[07:07] <LethAL-Rocks> I think partitioning software could make your harddrive unbootable, which would force it to use the CD, someone tell me if I am right
[07:07] <darkinca>  i got an error (enter preinstalled sesion) instalationstep failed; the only thing i can do is <next> then i go to the main menu
[07:07] <eno> why is there a windoze installeer for linux?
[07:07] <trygvebw> eno: ?
[07:07] <brenner> sJaM: hmm, is there a refresh rate in the screen res selection dialog?
[07:07] <GNU-GPL> trygvebw, ?
[07:07] <trygvebw> what is a "windows installer"?
[07:07] <_pir> I tried to uninstall it, But this will uninstall also the "ubuntu-desktop"
[07:08] <eno> like a windose app that you can install linux from
[07:08] <trygvebw> ubuntu-desktop is harmless to remove :)
[07:08] <GNU-GPL> trygvebw, that ugly blue dos like screen what you get when inserting a windows cd on startup?
[07:08] <LethAL-Rocks> It's gdm that might worry people :P
[07:08] <GNU-GPL> ;)
[07:08] <trygvebw> ok. :P
[07:08] <darkinca>  i got an error (enter preinstalled sesion) instalationstep failed; the only thing i can do is <next> then i go to the main menu.
[07:08] <eno> actually you have given me an idea, thank you kind people
[07:09] <LethAL-Rocks> How do I make a file in the terminal?
[07:09] <sJaM> brenner ?
[07:09] <GNU-GPL> LethAL-Rocks, touch <filename>
[07:09] <LethAL-Rocks> ty
[07:09] <B|ueMat> Anyone know of any transparent themes?
[07:09] <LethAL-Rocks> for?
[07:09] <NB_Ubuntu> can anyone help me figure out how to get ivtv installed?
[07:09] <brenner> sJaM: sys > prefs > screen res
[07:09] <dawynn> LethAL-Rocks -- ??  try touch.  Say "touch {filename}".  This creates an empty file.
[07:09] <wold> hi.. i've installed alsa-utils.. but cant find alsaconf
[07:10] <GNU-GPL> B|ueMat, if they are transparent, you won't see them,, so what's the point?  PLEASE PRIVATE CHAT
[07:10] <deFrysk> wold, alsatools
[07:10] <deFrysk> or alsa-tools
[07:10] <sJaM> 60 Hz
[07:10] <deFrysk> whatever it may be
[07:10] <sJaM> brenner 60 Hz
[07:10] <GNU-GPL> B|ueMat, :P
[07:11] <MrBear> whats the wiki for ati cards
[07:11] <B|ueMat> GNU-GPL, Rephrase to slightly opague then..
[07:11] <chombee> Breezy question: What is this Search & Indexing appearing in both my Applications and System menu, and why doesn't it work?
[07:11] <B|ueMat> opaque
[07:11] <brenner> sJaM: nothing higher? :-/
[07:11] <trygvebw> chombee: That's a settings panel for Beagle, as far as i know :)
[07:11] <wold> deFrysk, I cant find alsatools.. or with "-". .. but when I searched for alsaconf.. I got up: Note, selecting alsa-utils instead of alsaconf
[07:12] <darkinca>  i want to use the live-cd but i got an error (enter preinstalled sesion) instalationstep failed; the only thing i can do is <next> then i go to the main menu. (USE PRIVATE CHAT)
[07:12] <sJaM> I have a resolution of 1400x1050
[07:12] <chombee> trygvebw - is Beagle installed by default?
[07:12] <Hoxzer> hmm... do you guys know any software what can browse ext3 partition in windows?
[07:12] <trygvebw> chombee: i think so
[07:12] <trygvebw> Hoxzer: http://www.google.no/url?sa=t&ct=res&cd=1&url=http%3A//e2fsprogs.sourceforge.net/ext2.html&ei=-RMjQ5DJE53ARaDCjeAH
[07:12] <brenner> sJaM: no, i meant the refresh rate...can you click on that?
[07:12] <sJaM> yes
[07:12] <sJaM> but only 60 Hz
[07:12] <NB_Ubuntu> LethAL-Rocks, I'm trying to get ivtv installed for a pvr 150
[07:12] <dawynn> The "mail" that I access by typing <mail> at the cl, where is it stored?
[07:12] <wold> deFrysk, guys in #debian says alsaconf is missing..and wondring where it was gone:p
[07:13] <nalioth> Hoxzer: ext2fs.sourceforge.net   be careful
[07:13] <MrBear> sorry
[07:13] <LethAL-Rocks> NB_Ubuntu, I don't do tv or video stuff
[07:13] <NB_Ubuntu> oh
[07:13] <billy> dawynn: /var/mail/username
[07:13] <NB_Ubuntu> I thought you were asking me before
[07:13] <Hoxzer> nalioth: I only want to read :)
[07:13] <MrBear> I lost root control
[07:13] <LethAL-Rocks> lol
[07:13] <MrBear> how do I get into root
[07:13] <wold> deFrysk,  *where it went*
[07:13] <Juhaz> Hoxzer, explore2fs is decent enough if you don't need write support and don't want to play with file system drivers
[07:13] <trygvebw> Mr_You: sudo -i
[07:13] <LethAL-Rocks> !sudo
[07:13] <ubotu> sudo is probably http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo
[07:13] <sJaM> but what that has to do with gvim not in the menu
[07:13] <brenner> sJaM: i'm out of ideas.....forum search time!
[07:13] <GNU-GPL> Hoxzer, ehm.. why not use samba then?
[07:13] <GNU-GPL> :P
[07:13] <AdmiralCrunch> MrBear, sudo -s ?
[07:14] <darkinca>  i want to use the live-cd but i got an error (enter preinstalled sesion) instalationstep failed; the only thing i can do is <next> then i go to the main menu.
[07:14] <brenner> Juhaz: explore2fs, that windows tool?
[07:14] <MrBear> I got it thanks
[07:14] <trygvebw> MrBear: sudo -i
[07:14] <MrBear> yep
[07:14] <deFrysk> wold, alsaconf is needed to detect your soundcard and set it up
[07:14] <MrBear> trying to get flash for mozilla
[07:14] <Juhaz> brenner, yes
[07:14] <metis> can anyone help me with apache?
[07:14] <darkinca>  i want to use the live-cd but i got an error (enter preinstalled sesion) instalationstep failed; the only thing i can do is <next> then i go to the main menu.(PLEASE USE PRIVATE CHAT) What can i do????
[07:14] <MrBear> had to unlock the restricted despos
[07:14] <hobbit_will_yate> Just written a java app to do some custom stuff - I want to run it after I log in - can anyone help?
[07:14] <GNU-GPL> metis, what's the question?
[07:15] <brenner> Juhaz: doesn't support directory transfer though iirc
[07:15] <wold> deFrysk, exactly.. but seems like its impossible to get hold of
[07:15] <deFrysk> wold, probably its in the package alsatools
[07:15] <MrBear> is there a wiki on how to get a ATI card fully working
[07:15] <Dr_Willis> !ati
[07:15] <ubotu> ati is probably https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI, or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10&highlight=fglrx
[07:15] <brenner> MrBear: what probs?
[07:15] <Seveas-SFD> !ati
[07:15] <B|ueMat> metis, whats your apache issue?
[07:15] <Benjamindaines> Hello everyone has Ubuntu been made to work wiht AirPort Extreme yet?
[07:15] <wold> deFrysk, it dosnt exist any package named that
[07:15] <bz0b> can someone help me please?
[07:15] <GNU-GPL> Seveas-SFD, you're lagging
[07:15] <Seveas-SFD> I know
[07:16] <deFrysk> wold, that IS new to me :s
[07:16] <trygvebw> Benjamindaines: no.
[07:16] <MrBear> well I have a AIW 9800pro
[07:16] <bz0b> Can someone please tell me how to install the drivers for my usb wifi card?
[07:16] <MrBear> like screensavers run slow
[07:16] <trygvebw> bz0b: don't ask to ask :)
[07:16] <trygvebw> bz0b: which card is it?
[07:16] <percydaman> hi everybody
[07:16] <deFrysk> wold, try alsa-base
[07:16] <bz0b> d-link dwl g132
[07:16] <GNU-GPL> hi
[07:16] <MrBear> hi
[07:16] <percydaman> brand new linux user
[07:16] <shadikka> Ehm, how to restart X? ^^; Am I honestly saying blind or something xD
[07:16] <bz0b> hey
[07:16] <darkinca>  i want to use the live-cd but i got an error (enter preinstalled sesion) instalationstep failed; the only thing i can do is <next> then i go to the main menu.(PLEASE USE PRIVATE CHAT) What can i do????
[07:16] <trygvebw> percydaman: hi
[07:16] <wold> deFrysk,  E: Couldn't find package alsatools
[07:17] <trygvebw> shadikka: ctrl+alt+backspace
[07:17] <shadikka> thank
[07:17] <shadikka> s
[07:17] <genbie> anyone knows how to add a locale that usues the "windows encodings" as opposed to UTF in ubuntu plz? problem is that i have to run some wine app that require that crap windows encoding!
[07:17] <bz0b> trygvebw, so any ideas?
[07:17] <darkinca>  i want to use the live-cd but i got an error (enter preinstalled sesion) instalationstep failed; the only thing i can do is <next> then i go to the main menu.(PLEASE USE PRIVATE CHAT) What can i do????
[07:17] <GNU-GPL> percydaman, do you have a question, or are you just visiting this channel, to scoop around? :)
[07:17] <metis> bluemat: how do I migrate website from IIS to apache...cuz the folder structure is differnet
[07:17] <wold> deFrysk, got that installed already... but as I said.. apt-get resolved alsaconf to alsa-utils.. but got that one installed as well
[07:17] <Benjamindaines> Im running off my PowerBook from the LiveCD is there a way to get my Linksys WUSB11 Ver. 2.8 to work?
[07:17] <trygvebw> bz0b: i'm googling
[07:17] <percydaman> i have a question...lol im trying to think of the most intelligent way to ask it :)
[07:18] <brenner> darkinca: eh?  you're trying to install with the live-cd?
[07:18] <bz0b> trygvebw, thanks
[07:18] <GNU-GPL> percydaman, try us
[07:18] <GNU-GPL> :)
[07:18] <deFrysk> to install
[07:18] <deFrysk> and see if that has it
[07:18] <wold> deFrysk, so.. seems like apt-get belives alsaconf is inside the alsa-utils package.. but it isnt
[07:19] <B|ueMat> does there have to be a gnome session active to Run VNC?
[07:19] <trygvebw> bz0b: it uses the atheros chipset afaik
[07:19] <trygvebw> so the madwifi driver should work
[07:19] <trygvebw> brb
[07:19] <Seveas-SFD> B|ueMat, on a standard ubuntu install: yes
[07:19] <GNU-GPL> B|ueMat, not for vnc server
[07:19] <deFrysk> wold, a sec
[07:19] <enyc> blue: no, you can start a manual vncserver with iits own passowrd and DISPLAY= things on it etc...
[07:19] <Seveas-SFD> if you don't want that: use freenx (it's even much better :))
[07:19] <darkinca> brenner: not realy i want to see what ubuntu is (not instaling)
[07:19] <percydaman> im trying to install a program.  its in a .tgz file.  i extracted it okay.  now im not sure how to install it.  it has a bin folder with a bunch of bin files.  not sure what to do
[07:19] <WhiteRabbit> freenx is the nice!
[07:19] <Seveas-SFD> percydaman, what is it?
[07:19] <wold> deFrysk, ok.. thx
[07:19] <hobbit_will_yate> folks - I have googled for a solution and can't find anything - basically I want a application to run whenever I log in to X.  In windows I would just place a link in the startup folder.  Anyideas on how to do this in ubuntu?
[07:19] <brenner> darkinca: and you get an error when you select boot? (can't remember the exact process)
[07:20] <darkinca> yes
[07:20] <enyc> perc: well depedns if its binaries or source code etc. and reall depends on the program for its' install instructions (often in a file called INSTALL)
[07:20] <Seveas-SFD> freenx is da b0mb :)
[07:20] <WhiteRabbit> fo shizzle
[07:20] <Seveas-SFD> ecpecially the web plugin :)
[07:20] <shadikka> brenner, I found different sync rates - yet no good :( Added 1152x768 and it allows only 55(!)Hz for it.
[07:20] <trygvebw> percydaman: why are you installing it from source?
[07:20] <metis> can anyone help me on how to copy website from IIS to apache .... Im wondering if i have to change all html file links
[07:20] <B|ueMat> GNU-GPL, ok, so if im connecting from a win box in work, i dont have to have a gnome session running at home, also for vnc do you have to set the desktop in the conf files?
[07:20] <brenner> darkinca: bad CD maybe?
[07:20] <B|ueMat> metis, why would you have to do that?
[07:20] <brenner> shadikka: same montor model?
[07:20] <AdmiralCrunch> Will I get the same results from "apt-get dist-upgrade", as I would from installing the new CDs?
[07:20] <percydaman> its called shake.  its a program im checking out for my work before we cough up 4 grand  :)
[07:20] <shadikka> brenner, yeah
[07:20] <darkinca> i got it from a friend
[07:21] <WhiteRabbit> shadikka, is it a flat screen?
[07:21] <Cryptid> hello every one
[07:21] <shadikka> WhiteRabbit, no, CRT
[07:21] <MrBear> can someone give me the link for the wiki for adding mp3 etc support
[07:21] <WhiteRabbit> shadikka, thats nasty then hehe
[07:21] <bz0b> trygvebw, any luck?
[07:21] <trygvebw> percydaman: shaketracker?
[07:21] <shadikka> MrBear, www.ubuntuguide.org helped me
[07:21] <percydaman> its called apple shake.  its a compositing program
[07:21] <GNU-GPL> B|ueMat, yes.. for the visual part you need a deskop like e.g. gome running
[07:21] <deFrysk> wold, I think hal takes care of configuration now
[07:21] <brenner> !multimedia
[07:21] <ubotu> from memory, multimedia is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NewUserGuideMultimedia
[07:21] <GNU-GPL> but for the vnc itself not
[07:21] <GNU-GPL> (server)
[07:21] <shadikka> WhiteRabbit, thanks for the sympathy ;)
[07:21] <percydaman> theres no install file
[07:22] <LethAL-Rocks> How can I call a script from another script?
[07:22] <nalioth> AdmiralCrunch: with *nix, you should never again have to "install" from a cd
[07:22] <WhiteRabbit> shadikka, you can always directly edit your xorg.conf
[07:22] <NB_Ubuntu> hey, I need to install the kernel sources.... how would I do that?
[07:22] <shadikka> WhiteRabbit, that's what I've BEEN doing!
[07:22] <Cryptid> i am new too Linux so plz tell me how do i install other softwares onto my Box, plz help!
[07:22] <metis> i dont know...do I ?? lol im really new to this ...if my website is in /inetpub how and the links are c:\inetpub\website\index.html? how do copy and make sure links work in apache bluemat?
[07:22] <nalioth> AdmiralCrunch: yes, dist-upgrade after you modify your sources.list will fix you up (when the time comes)
[07:22] <SuperTails92> LethAL-Rocks: Like you would from the CLI.
[07:22] <trygvebw> NB_Ubuntu: sudo apt-get install kernel-source-`uname -r`
[07:22] <LethAL-Rocks> oh, just /. then
[07:22] <trygvebw> NB_Ubuntu: copy - paste
[07:22] <LethAL-Rocks> Thanks :)
[07:22] <nalioth> !tell Cryptid about synaptic
[07:22] <WhiteRabbit> shadikka, past your xorg.conf
[07:22] <drasko> I am getting this message from tarantella client: local X server is not available. And it wont connect... What's wrong?
[07:22] <B|ueMat> GNU-GPL, thats not great really is it
[07:22] <shadikka> WhiteRabbit, moment.
[07:23] <NB_Ubuntu> couldn't find package...
[07:23] <Cryptid> what is synaptic?
[07:23] <yhonatan> Cryptid
[07:23] <brenner> !synaptic
[07:23] <ubotu> it has been said that synaptic is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SynapticHowto
[07:23] <brenner> Cryptid: graphical package manager
[07:23] <yhonatan> :\
[07:23] <percydaman> lol whew im noob but i know what synaptic is...hehe
[07:23] <brenner> sys > admin > synaptic
[07:23] <nalioth> brenner: i've told had ubotu send info to Cryptid about synaptic, if he'd read it, we'd all be better off
[07:23] <yhonatan> percydaman
[07:23] <nalioth> Cryptid: read your private msg
[07:23] <percydaman> yes
[07:24] <Cryptid> k i will
[07:24] <yhonatan> i use the textuall apt
[07:24] <shadikka> WhiteRabbit, http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2064
[07:24] <yhonatan> and i think he use it two
[07:24] <yhonatan> so..
[07:24] <toxicle> hello guys
[07:24] <toxicle> i have a question on wifi cards
[07:24] <toxicle> when i installed ubuntu .. i used my tx100 card
[07:24] <toxicle> it detected with no problem
[07:25] <toxicle> now i insert in my orinoco card ...
[07:25] <toxicle> does not detect automatically
[07:25] <toxicle> any help?
[07:25] <AdmiralCrunch> well, I updated my /etc/apt/sources.list and I am going for the dist-upgrade
[07:25] <WhiteRabbit> shadikka, hahah a ATI
[07:25] <WhiteRabbit> hahah
[07:25] <Madeye> AdmiralCrunch if I were you i wouldn't do it
[07:25] <WhiteRabbit> shadikka, why are your hor & vert rates so low?
[07:25] <shadikka> WhiteRabbit, yeah, whatever.
[07:26] <AdmiralCrunch> Why is this Madeye
[07:26] <brenner> WhiteRabbit: lay off
[07:26] <trygvebw> toxicle: "modprobe orinoco_cs" in a console
[07:26] <shadikka> WhiteRabbit, just tested those, didn't work with ddcprobe'd either
[07:26] <WhiteRabbit> brenner, bite me
[07:26] <trygvebw> toxicle: then check if your card is in Network Preferences
[07:26] <Madeye> AdmiralCrunch I'm on breezy now, and there is a problem with detecting keyboard by Xorg, so i'm on terminal now
[07:26] <toxicle> traveller: thanks i'll try
[07:26] <moquillo> AdmiralCrunch: I just did it last night.. didn't have any probs
[07:26] <Madeye> WhiteRabbit  how to force xorg to detect my keyboard?
[07:26] <Hoxzer> :D
[07:26] <toxicle> trygvebw: thanks i'll try
[07:26] <Hoxzer> en vain osaa
[07:26] <trygvebw> toxicle: :)
[07:26] <percydaman> i dont think i need to compile this shake program.  its not open source.  but im a little stuck
[07:26] <AdmiralCrunch> Well, I have another Hoary partition as a backup
[07:26] <AdmiralCrunch> so if I fuck up
[07:27] <WhiteRabbit> Madeye, you edit it in the proer area
[07:27] <AdmiralCrunch> I will just drag my Home folder over
[07:27] <shadikka> Hoxzer, liityp kerhoon.
[07:27] <AdmiralCrunch> and install from the CD
[07:27] <LethAL-Rocks> lol
[07:27] <trygvebw> toxicle: "sudo orinoco_cs" of course
[07:27] <WhiteRabbit> shadikka, whats the monitor model
[07:27] <Cryptid> Hey does this Synaptic have all the software released for ubuntu on it
[07:27] <shadikka> WhiteRabbit, Samtron 76E
[07:27] <Madeye> WhiteRabbit  I've played with xorg.conf but I didn't know what to change,
[07:27] <trygvebw> Cryptid: nope, but it has a lot
[07:27] <nalioth> AdmiralCrunch: i'd wait a couple weeks
[07:27] <LethAL-Rocks> Madeye, are you trying to increase refrresh rates?
[07:27] <WhiteRabbit> Section "InputDevice" Identifier        "Generic Keyboard" in a area like that
[07:27] <Madeye> LethAL-Rocks no, i'm trying to let xorg see my keyboard.
[07:28] <LethAL-Rocks> Oh
[07:28] <LethAL-Rocks> lol
[07:28] <LethAL-Rocks> nm about me then :P
[07:28] <brenner> LethAL-Rocks: shadikka is
[07:28] <toxicle> sudo modprob orinoco_cs
[07:28] <alba_> alo
[07:28] <AdmiralCrunch> Well I already started grabbing the updates, so if it screws up, it does, I will deal with it
[07:28] <trygvebw> toxicle: modprobe
[07:28] <LethAL-Rocks> shadikka, You there?
[07:28] <shadikka> LethAL-Rocks, yea
[07:28] <WhiteRabbit> shadikka, 280x1024@65Hz Maximum Resolution
[07:29] <LethAL-Rocks> LCD?
[07:29] <shadikka> WhiteRabbit, yeah, and 1280x960 works with 72Hz - I'm just trying to tell that to Gnome!
[07:29] <shadikka> LethAL-Rocks, CRT.
[07:29] <LethAL-Rocks> Which res you want?
[07:29] <wold> deFrysk, ok.. and that means I should talk to him?.. or does he takes care of it?
[07:29] <WhiteRabbit> shadikka, na tha max specs allow 1280x1024@65Hz Maximum Resolution
[07:29] <Sashi> hy
[07:29] <deFrysk> wold, ho is him ?
[07:29] <Cryptid> nalioth yhonatan brenner trygvebw thank u all for ur help,Bye.
[07:29] <Sashi> how do i add a proxy so that i can download from wget?
[07:29] <WhiteRabbit> shadikka, bingo found it!
[07:29] <trygvebw> Cryptid: :)
[07:29] <shadikka> WhiteRabbit, but I've used 1280x960 @ 72Hz for ages in Windows :) So it's proven.
[07:29] <LethAL-Rocks> right
[07:29] <shadikka> WhiteRabbit, yep? :)
[07:30] <LethAL-Rocks> shadikka, open a terminal and do gtf 1280 1024 72
[07:30] <WhiteRabbit> shadikka, ok change this settings in your xorg  Horizontal - 30-70    Vertical -  50-160
[07:30] <shadikka> I'll try LethAL's first.
[07:30] <LethAL-Rocks> shadikka, although you should be using 1280x960 for a CRT
[07:30] <brenner> hehe
[07:30] <XKpe> hi
[07:30] <Madeye> WhiteRabbit I have the following, generic keyboard, keyboard, core keyboard, xfree86, p104, US
[07:30] <NB_Ubuntu> hey, I need to install the kernel source... how do I go about doing that?
[07:30] <WhiteRabbit> shadikka, um why I'm I wasting my time then...
[07:30] <LethAL-Rocks> shadikka, I meant "gtf -f 1280 1024 72 "
[07:31] <WhiteRabbit> shadikka, http://www.samtron.com/product/76e_spec.html look
[07:31] <LethAL-Rocks> shadikka, then paste me it
[07:31] <WhiteRabbit> LethAL-Rocks, stop just stop
[07:31] <XKpe> i removed gaim from the painel now i cant put it there again :S how can i do that?
[07:31] <Sashi> so anyone go an answer
[07:31] <shadikka> Waaaaah, I can't do two things at the same time xD And WhiteRabbit, I already looked at it...
[07:31] <WhiteRabbit> shadikka, look I know why & told ya already
[07:31] <Myrtti> hello everyone
[07:31] <hobbit_will_yate> can't u drag it from the gnome menu directly oonto the panel?
[07:31] <Madeye> WhiteRabbit I have the following, generic keyboard, keyboard, core keyboard, xfree86, p104, US
[07:31] <shadikka> Okay, whatever.
[07:32] <WhiteRabbit> shadikka, your vert & hor freq are to set low
[07:32] <shadikka> WhiteRabbit, yeah.
[07:32] <Hoxzer> Hobbit_will_yate: I am youuuur slaaaveee oooh babeeeeeeee
[07:32] <shadikka> brb
[07:32] <WhiteRabbit> shadikka, you need to change those to aqquire the max res
[07:32] <wold> deFrysk, "hal"
[07:32] <Hoxzer> Spank me oh psank meeeee
[07:32] <hobbit_will_yate> was that called for Hoxzer
[07:32] <wold> deFrysk,  --> hal takes care of configuration now
[07:33] <deFrysk> wold, I think hal detect it yes but perhaps someone else here know more of this
[07:33] <MrBear> how do I fix my sound
[07:33] <Madeye> WhiteRabbit  any idea?
[07:33] <MrBear> I have no sound at all
[07:33] <WhiteRabbit> Madeye, wha?
[07:33] <Madeye> WhiteRabbit I have the following, generic keyboard, keyboard, core keyboard, xfree86, p104, US
[07:33] <WhiteRabbit> Madeye, you have a keyboard with alota fuctions right?
[07:33] <__filip_> how can i open ports in ubuntu 5,10?
[07:33] <Hoxzer> xfree sounds familiar
[07:33] <deFrysk> xfree86 ?
[07:33] <WhiteRabbit> & you wanna be ables to use all the wonderful keys right?
[07:33] <deFrysk> warty ?
[07:34] <enyc> filip like, listen on a TCP port ??
[07:34] <enyc> filip: like, what do you want to connect to  open TCP port  ??
[07:34] <LinuxJones> Ugh, alsa isn't finding my soundcard even though the modules are loaded :(
[07:34] <__filip_> enyc: i need to open an port in azureus
[07:34] <deFrysk> LinuxJones, onboard sound ?
[07:34] <nalioth> __filip_: do you have a router?
[07:34] <percydaman> anyone have any idea how to install this shake program?  It has a bunch of folders including this bin folder that has some files in it.
[07:34] <__filip_> nalioth: no
[07:35] <enyc> fili:  azaerius will listen for the port of it's own accord.. however, wether its reachable from outside/internet depends on network config
[07:35] <nalioth> __filip_: then your ports should be open
[07:35] <XKpe> so.. does anyone know i can i put gaim on the painel again?
[07:35] <__filip_> ok.
[07:35] <WhiteRabbit> Madeye, gnome has a feature to setup some of the keys that your probly wanting to use
[07:35] <LinuxJones> deFrysk, no it's a SB Live Value, I upgraded to Breezy last night and everything went well, for some strange reason my sound doesn't work this morning.
[07:35] <WhiteRabbit> Madeye, more than likely your needing to find the gnome keyboard settings rather than changing the xorg.conf keyboard settings just yet
[07:36] <deFrysk> LinuxJones, tried alsamixer ?
[07:36] <LinuxJones> deFrysk, it won't launch
[07:36] <MrBear> I have no sound in ubuntu how do I fix this
[07:36] <shadikka> Ah well, here again...
[07:36] <deFrysk> linuxjones sudo apt-get install ubuntu-base ubuntu-desktop
[07:36] <WhiteRabbit> shadikka, max res @  1280 x 1024@65Hz
[07:36] <WhiteRabbit> shadikka, your not goin to get over 65hz
[07:36] <deFrysk> LinuxJones, to make sure you have it all
[07:37] <WhiteRabbit> shadikka, but the changes we made will help GREATly
[07:37] <shadikka> WhiteRabbit, okay, so what do I do now?
[07:37] <LinuxJones> deFrysk, wait a sec I am gonna re-seat the card, in a drunken slumber last night I remember putting some strain on the soundcard and it might have come loose from the slot..brb
[07:37] <percydaman> anyone have any idea how to install this shake program?  It has a bunch of folders including this bin folder that has some files in it.
[07:37] <LinuxJones> deFrysk, ok let me check that first
[07:37] <WhiteRabbit> shadikka, seeing is beliving I feel atm for ya! http://www.samtron.com/product/76e_spec.html check out the specs for self
[07:38] <shadikka> WhiteRabbit, I know but it confuses that I have really used 1280x960 at 72Hz in Windows. Oh well, but anything better than 60Hz is, well, better than 60Hz. ;D
[07:38] <brenner> percydaman: any README or INSTALL files?
[07:38] <percydaman> no
[07:38] <brenner> shadikka: er, you *do* know those are the same rates you probed ages ago don't you?
[07:38] <deFrysk> so drunk peaple put strain on souncards eh ?
[07:38] <WhiteRabbit> shadikka, windows is a lieing fsck
[07:38] <deFrysk> interesting :p
[07:38] <percydaman> theres absolutely no instructions on installing it...ive looked and looked
[07:38] <shadikka> WhiteRabbit, yes, Windows is but my monitor told that it was 72Hz. But well, let's forget that.
[07:38] <LinuxJones> deFrysk, no I got up to go have a cigarette and forgot I had my headphones still on :D
[07:39] <shadikka> brenner, yeah?
[07:39] <brenner> percydaman: where'd you get the app?
[07:39] <deFrysk> linuxj
[07:39] <deFrysk> LinuxJones, lol
[07:39] <LinuxJones> heh
[07:39] <Milk_> good afternoon!!
[07:39] <WhiteRabbit> shadikka, windows man windows hehe Sure we are trust windows!
[07:39] <percydaman> a guy from work got it.  not sure where he got it.
[07:39] <Milk_> anyone here have experiance with cedega?
[07:39] <brenner> shadikka: looking at your xorg.conf file...you didn't enter the probed ones....
[07:39] <shadikka> WhiteRabbit, okay okay okay, you don't have to beat it to the ground...
[07:39] <Leonik> how would i transfer something to a floppy drive using ssh?
[07:39] <deFrysk> Milk_, in #cedega they do
[07:39] <WhiteRabbit> lol
[07:39] <Leonik> my linux box is the only one that has a floppy drive and i wanan put ghost on it
[07:39] <shadikka> brenner, those were temporary ones I found googling. No help from them anyway.
[07:39] <Milk_> deFrysk, I'm in there... no one is answering
[07:40] <deFrysk> ok
[07:40] <nalioth> Leonik: the same way you do it on your local box in a terminal
[07:40] <percydaman> there is a makefile.run in the docs folder...  can i do something with that?
[07:40] <brenner> ah
[07:40] <HappyFool> Leonik: if the floppy is mounted (e.g., at /media/floppy), you can just copy to it
[07:40] <Leonik> what dev is it under?
[07:40] <metis> anyone with apache experience??
[07:40] <Milk_> metis, sure.. whats up
[07:40] <Leonik> sweet linux is so cool
[07:40] <B|ueMat> What is Synaptic "Smart Upgrade"?
[07:40] <Leonik> should i update my linux kernel?
[07:40] <deFrysk> percydaman, to install what ?
[07:40] <brenner> shadikka: do you have a button on your monitor that shows info?
[07:40] <Leonik> or how would i go about doing that?
[07:40] <shadikka> brenner, yes.
[07:41] <nalioth> Leonik: within 30 days, you'll have the option to upgrade your whole box
[07:41] <metis> hey milk i have an IIS server but want to move the website over to apache.....only html...can this be easily done?
[07:41] <percydaman> not sure what you mean.  im trying to get this shake program running
[07:41] <brenner> shadikka: i.e. the current refresh rate it's running?
[07:41] <HappyFool> Leonik: you mean to the latest hoary version (2.6.10-34.5) or something else?
[07:41] <shadikka> brenner, yes.
[07:41] <Leonik> i mean the linux kernel not ubuntu
[07:41] <Milk_> metis, if its only html.. very easy
[07:41] <deFrysk> percydaman, shake program ?
[07:41] <brenner> percydaman: exactly....what's shake?
[07:41] <deFrysk> milk shake ?
[07:41] <nalioth> Leonik: is there a reason for you to have an "updated' kernel?
[07:41] <deFrysk> hippy hippy shake ?
[07:41] <brenner> shadikka: use it in windows.....and see if it really does lie
[07:41] <percydaman> its a graphics compositing program made by apple
[07:41] <metis> my confusion lies with the links cause links in html point to c:\inetpub\ ...etc etc...how do i set this up in apache?
[07:41] <poypoy> Best bet on getting my MX510's extra buttons working on ubuntu? drivers or some hack?
[07:41] <HappyFool> Leonik: hoary has recently provided an update to the kernel it uses; i presume you mean something else
[07:41] <Leonik> not really? just to keep up to date on things
[07:42] <Leonik> i thought that a new linux kerenl was relased like two weeks ago?
[07:42] <percydaman> usually run in maxOS...but they have a linux version.
[07:42] <WhiteRabbit> percydaman, hehe your looking at linux & wintel people almost 0 mac lovers hehe
[07:42] <linuxgeekery> Leonik: It was
[07:42] <shadikka> brenner, let's put that aside now, I just want to get this thing to not kill my eyes and yet have a better resolution than 1024x768...
[07:42] <Milk_> metis, I'm not following... your html links point to a specific page right?
[07:42] <percydaman> lol im not mac lover...
[07:42] <WhiteRabbit> I am
[07:42] <WhiteRabbit> Cuase I can afford them lol
[07:42] <HappyFool> Leonik: i wouldn't bother with that unless you know of specific new features or fixes you need
[07:42] <linuxgeekery> Heh, I kind of am. Not THAT hardcore tho. =D
[07:42] <Leonik> lol ok
[07:42] <Milk_> Can anyone help me with a problem with cedega here?
[07:42] <percydaman> why do you think i installed linux?  id die if we had to purchase a mac to run this program...lol
[07:42] <Leonik> dont wanna mess up my system taht was put together with tape
[07:42] <spiderworm> hey all i plugged in a digital camera usb, according to lsusb and dmesg it recognized the camera, but how do i mount it now?
[07:42] <NB_Ubuntu> hey, if I want an instruction to run on startup, where should I put it?
[07:42] <percydaman> shake is not windows based though
[07:43] <metis> yeah for instance images are poiting to c:\inetpub\website\images\test.jpg.....i just dont understand how to set this up in apache cause the file system is differnet...
[07:43] <deFrysk>  Shake 4
[07:43] <deFrysk> for Linux retails for $4999.
[07:43] <deFrysk> omg!!
[07:43] <HappyFool> NB_Ubuntu: you can add it to /etc/init.d/bootmisc.sh
[07:43] <Frafra> i'm trying gmail-notify but it display an error (login error). why?
[07:43] <WhiteRabbit> Shake 4 is on discount somewere for free atm ;)
[07:43] <charlesj> how do i create a shortcut for a command that is run so: "./commandname --options" ?
[07:43] <percydaman> yeah its spendy.  im a cg artist
[07:43] <metis> do i have to change the c:\ path links??
[07:43] <Milk_> metis, if your pointing things to anything starting with c: then your not using IIS
[07:43] <brenner> percydaman: a Makefile usually indicates you need to install from source.....
[07:43] <james_> hi
[07:44] <HappyFool> charlesj: right click on desktop, choose 'create launcher'
[07:44] <deFrysk> percydaman, what the name of the install file ?
[07:44] <charlesj> happyfool: done that. what do i type int he command field?
[07:44] <endy_x> percydaman, have you looked in the /bin folder and tried to run shake, it could just run from the extracted directory
[07:44] <brenner> percydaman: but there might be a binary installer somewhere there
[07:44] <HappyFool> charlesj: /path/to/the/program --options
[07:44] <deFrysk> percydaman, what endy_x said indeed
[07:44] <pinucset> how can i kill mozilla firefox? i dont found it at top... HELP1!!!
[07:44] <percydaman> ive tried doubleclicking the shake file in the bin folder...nothing happens...
[07:45] <ali4728> Can anyone help with Name based Virtual server on Ubuntu box?
[07:45] <endy_x> run it from a console and see if it prints an error
[07:45] <brenner> percydaman: possibly need to run it in a terminal
[07:45] <Jhair> I wanted to check this gnome system configuration thing so I clicked System->Administration->Networking, and there apears my ethernet interface is not configured although I am using that interface right now (manually configured though)
[07:45] <percydaman> so i just cd to its location and type what?
[07:45] <HappyFool> pinucset: have you looked in applications -> system tools -> system monitor ?
[07:45] <Jhair> that's bad, System->Administration->Network *should* read the current settings
[07:46] <endy_x> percydaman, cd <directory> ./<name of executable>
[07:46] <deFrysk> percydaman, is there an installfile in the folder ?
[07:46] <samu2> How can i copy text from the terminal window in the "Software Updates" thing?
[07:46] <samu2> I can't right-click, tried ctrl+c and ctrl+alt+c.
[07:46] <oli4> is there a way to limit the amount of resources a program can use ? ... so it won't go higher than say... 60% cpu or something ?
[07:46] <brenner> samu2: you have a middle mouse button?
[07:46] <charlesj> happyfool: didn't work
[07:46] <h17m4n> what the freak.... k3b won't burn the DVD iso I have... it burned a CD just fine, but when I try to burn the DVD it chokes
[07:46] <XIII> hi all
[07:46] <samu2> brenner, yeah
[07:46] <percydaman> im not sure deFrysk.  heres the following files:  mkpak, shake, tshake, shkv.exe, tshkx.exe, shkx.exe
[07:47] <endy_x> percydaman, is this a free demo? if so i'll d/l it and have a try if its not huge
[07:47] <B|ueMat> What is Synaptic "Smart Upgrade"?
[07:47] <h17m4n> What other dvd iso burning apps are out there?
[07:47] <HappyFool> charlesj: standby, let me try it
[07:47] <brenner> samu2: highlight the text, open an editor, and then middle-click
[07:47] <XIII> how can i setup a new desktop manager like UDE or KDE??
[07:47] <brenner> in the editor
[07:47] <charlesj> happyfool: ok
[07:47] <deFrysk> percydaman, key in shake
[07:47] <percydaman> tried that endy... it said bad intepreter
[07:47] <samu2> Oh selecting automatically copies?
[07:47] <deFrysk> it probably the executable
[07:47] <samu2> brenner, thanks
[07:47] <percydaman> what do you mean?
[07:47] <h17m4n> XIII: Run sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[07:47] <brenner> samu2: need to middl-click where you want to paste
[07:47] <oli4> XIII, first install it.. then in gdm choose to run it instead of gnome...
[07:48] <XIII> oli4 how can i get gdm?
[07:48] <h17m4n> The command I gave you will install the kde stuff
[07:48] <brenner> samu2: by middle, i mean pressing the scroller in
[07:48] <oli4> xiii : gdm is whats running when you log in
[07:48] <XIII> h17m4n what about UDE?
[07:48] <goo> I have some stupid problems woth
[07:48] <goo> err..
[07:48] <h17m4n> I dunno what that is yet
[07:49] <XIII> oli4 how could i choose it from gdm?
[07:49] <oli4> so... log out and you are probebly in gdm.. unless you allways startup X with startx... from the prompt that is
[07:49] <Frafra> i've set mail-notification for gmail, but it give me a login error
[07:49] <deFrysk> percydaman, cd into the folder and key in shake
[07:49] <XIII> h17m4n it's unix desktop enviroment
[07:49] <oli4> there is a "sessions" thingy... button
[07:49] <brenner> XIII: click on sessions
[07:49] <percydaman> you mean just type "shake"?  i tried that
[07:49] <oli4> Xiii what brenner says :)
[07:49] <percydaman> no such command or something like that
[07:49] <XIII> then?
[07:50] <h17m4n> This is how I'll have to burn this ISO: Create a FTP server and put the file in there so I can grab it from my desktop pc and burn it with Nero.
[07:50] <brenner> oli4: it's like a hyperlink, so i can see why you weren't quite sure. :)
[07:50] <oli4> XIII: choose your newly installed windowmanager
[07:50] <nalioth> h17m4n: google "cdrecord-prodvd"
[07:50] <deFrysk> percydaman, if you paid for it I would call the helpdesk
[07:50] <goo> I have some stupid problems with Breezy - My AltGr key doesn't say it's ISO_Level3_Shift anymore, it just claims to be Alt_R, with the reult that I cannot type "at" anymore. Major drawback. Any fixes for this yet?
[07:50] <XIII> oli4, no other choice but gnome
[07:50] <brenner> percydaman: probably: ./shake
[07:50] <brenner> in the working dir
[07:50] <Frafra> someone use mail-notification for gmail?
[07:51] <deFrysk> brenner, also possible yes
[07:51] <oli4> XIII: u did install kde allready ?
[07:51] <oli4> XIII: or any other wm for that matter ?
[07:51] <Sashi> hmm
[07:51] <XIII> not kde, but ude
[07:51] <XIII> yeah i did
[07:51] <percydaman> brenner:  it says /bin/csh bad intepreter: no such file or directory
[07:51] <oli4> ude... hmm. .never heard of it.. .
[07:51] <h17m4n> nalioth: Thankx... Will look into it now.
[07:51] <oli4> lemme c
[07:51] <Sashi> is there a downloader fer X? that allows me too add proxies?
[07:51] <XIII> unix desktop enviroment
[07:51] <nalioth> Sashi: "wget"
[07:51] <deFrysk> percydaman, try sh shake
[07:51] <HappyFool> charlesj: it works here as i expect
[07:52] <HappyFool> charlesj: does the command work from the command line?
[07:52] <Sashi> how to add proxies though
[07:52] <Sashi> i cant seem to add proxy
[07:52] <Sashi> i do Http proxy thing
[07:52] <oli4> XIII: Ah... that ude... back to basic u want... let me see if there's a gdm manager thingy
[07:52] <percydaman> it says line 23: suntax error near unexpected token 'else'
[07:52] <XIII> ok
[07:52] <percydaman> syntax
[07:53] <HappyFool> Sashi: 'http_proxy=http://my.proxy.net:<port>/ wget http://www.google.com', where <port> should be the port number
[07:53] <charlesj> happyfool: yup
[07:53] <oli4> XIII: i don't think i can give u any pointers on how to edit your gdm configuration... but thats what i would google on
[07:54] <topyli> i really like the new totem interface. if i still liked file/plylist placed players a la xmms, i'd probably use totem for audio too :)
[07:54] <Nosforit> Hi there.
[07:54] <deFrysk> percydaman, is there a docs folder with a install.txt or something ?
[07:54] <oli4> anyone know how to limit a programs resources to... lets say 60% of whats available ? ( or maybe point me to a good search string )
[07:54] <charlesj> happyfool: it is a cyberoam client i use to connect to my isp. has not been compiled. unzip and use. could that be the problem?
[07:54] <XIII> thnx oli4
[07:55] <HappyFool> charlesj: has *not* been compiled?
[07:55] <XIII> :)
[07:55] <HappyFool> charlesj: but you said it runs from the command line fine ?
[07:55] <Nosforit> New Ubuntu user here. Just finished the install. =)
[07:55] <percydaman> theres a docs folder but no install.txt  theres a makefile, makefile.run and some pdf's.  none were helpful
[07:55] <topyli> Nosforit: welcome to freedom :)
[07:55] <deFrysk> percydaman, sh makefile.run
[07:55] <Cryptid> Hi does ubuntu Have a CD-writing Software installed in it
[07:56] <deFrysk> fingers crossed
[07:56] <brenner> doesn't apple even provide any docs for their s/ware? :)
[07:56] <charlesj> happyfool: only if i am in the same folder
[07:56] <Frafra> who use mail-nofitication with gmail?
[07:56] <h17m4n> !dvd
[07:56] <brenner> Cryptid: yep. nautilus
[07:56] <ubotu> DVD playing is possible in ubuntu, some dvd's require libdvdcss2, which can be found in !hoary-extras
[07:56] <HappyFool> charlesj: you need to specify the path to the program (i.e., /home/charlesj/software/cybercomm/foo)
[07:56] <oolon> Cryptid, you have a few to choose from i use k3b
[07:56] <HappyFool> charlesj: not './cybercomm'
[07:56] <percydaman> Makefile.run: line 1: include: command not found
[07:56] <percydaman> Makefile.run: line 3: all:: command not found
[07:56] <percydaman> Makefile.run: line 4: SHKDIR: command not found
[07:56] <percydaman> Makefile.run: line 4: @cp: command not found
[07:57] <Cryptid> I thought K3b is only for KDE
[07:57] <brenner> stop!
[07:57] <percydaman> is it possible that it just doesn't run on this version of linux?
[07:57] <deFrysk> percydaman, is it possible its not the package for linux ?
[07:57] <pestilence> Xorg causes my system load to be consistently 3+, even when i'm only logged in via ssh...what gives?
[07:57] <HappyFool> sounds like that is a makefile, not a shell script file
[07:57] <billy> Cryptid: try k3b
[07:57] <Cryptid> Where do i find Nautilus on my System
[07:57] <charlesj> happyfool: that's exactly what i typed in the command field of the launcher- /path/crclient -u asdf
[07:57] <brenner> percydaman: er, do you have build-essential nstalled?
[07:58] <oolon> i think i ran it in gnome once synaptic is where to look for burning apps though
[07:58] <kubuntu> Cryptid: k3b uses Qt libraries. u can use from any desktop with these libraries installed
[07:58] <deFrysk> Cryptid, open homefolder
[07:58] <deFrysk> thats nautilus
[07:58] <percydaman> deFrysk:  i couldn't imagine its not linux build.  its has these linux file right?
[07:58] <HappyFool> charlesj: where exactly is the client file? in your home directory?
[07:58] <percydaman> brenner:  im not familiar with build-essential
[07:58] <charlesj> happyfool: yes
[07:59] <deFrysk> percydaman, I think its a helpdesk prob
[07:59] <HappyFool> charlesj: and by '/path' do you actually mean '/home/charlesj/whatever' ?
[07:59] <Cryptid> home folder is nautilus then how do i use it for writing cds and will K3b work with out KDE installed(hope this is not a dumb Questions, but what can i do i am new to linux)
[07:59] <charlesj> happyfool: yes
[07:59] <deFrysk> Cryptid, rightclik the iso and burn
[08:00] <charlesj> happyfool: i even tried it without specifying the path
[08:00] <HappyFool> charlesj: ok, does '/path/crclient -u asdf' work from a different folder?
[08:00] <masterloki> Where can I download the man pages for development (i.e. man strcmp says it doesn't exist)
[08:00] <metis> bluemat....have u read the dialog ive sent u?
[08:00] <charlesj> happyfool: no
[08:00] <percydaman> yeah not something i can ask helpdesk really.  Its something we're "evaluating" before purchasing if you know what I mean.  Theres no demo available
[08:00] <deFrysk> Cryptid, if you insert an empty cd noutilus burn wil open where you can drag and drop your files in
[08:00] <HappyFool> charlesj: ok, it might be easiest to write a little wrapper script to first change to the right directory, then run the program
[08:01] <brenner> Cryptid: yes, installing kde apps will probably install the kde libraries it needs to run...you can then run them in any DE
[08:01] <HappyFool> charlesj: it's very easy; the file will have two lines: 'cd /path' and './crclient -u asdf'
[08:01] <percydaman> i could share it if someone wanted to take a look at it.  its about 47megs though
[08:01] <Lichte> anyone have an entry for sources.list for breezy-extra that works ??
[08:01] <charlesj> happyfool: and then call that file in the launcher?
[08:01] <deFrysk> percydaman, lemmesee , a sec
[08:01] <masterloki> Where can I download the man pages for development (i.e. man strcmp says it doesn't exist)
[08:02] <HappyFool> charlesj: yip. make sure to mark it executable (chmod a+x myscript.sh)
[08:02] <dalamar> what day does the breezy preview come out?
[08:02] <segphault> I'm thinking about upgrading from hoary to breezy. Is breezy stable enough for regular use on a desktop system?
[08:02] <HappyFool> charlesj: you can also set executable from nautilus (the gnome file explorer)
[08:02] <HappyFool> dalamar: i think it might already be out (?)
[08:02] <charlesj> happyfool: thanks mate. i'll go and try it
[08:02] <HappyFool> charlesj: cool. good luck
[08:03] <dalamar> oh really wow
[08:03] <brenner> segfault: iirc, no.
[08:03] <brenner> segphault rather
[08:03] <billy> Cryptid: from within Nautilus click on "Places" on the menu, then select "CD/DVD" creator
[08:03] <HappyFool> masterloki: it's manpages-dev
[08:03] <sj1> Im trying to install ndiswrapper But the wiki for that ive found is not functioning, anyone know a good source of info for me, or the order I want to use to get it working perhaps?
[08:03] <Cryptid> thanx Brenner and deFrysk
[08:03] <topyli> dalamar: it was released at the same time when the new gnome was released again
[08:03] <topyli> dalamar: seems to be a tradition
[08:03] <Cryptid> thanx billy
[08:04] <percydaman> deFrysk: do you want me to try and send it?
[08:04] <svizzero> anyone knows how to start a program automatically after kde started?
[08:04] <segphault> anybody here using breezy?
[08:04] <Lichte> is there a repo for breezy-extra ?
[08:04] <billy> Cryptid: your welcome :)
[08:04] <Lichte> segfault, I am
[08:04] <metis> can someone help me with apache??
[08:05] <metis> need to migrate IIS to apache
[08:05] <deFrysk> percydaman, I am getting the trial now
[08:05] <segphault> Lichte: how is it?
[08:05] <percydaman> really..you found a trial?
[08:05] <deFrysk> percydaman, its a .bin so I'll see
[08:05] <HappyFool> metis: you still on windows?
[08:05] <deFrysk> percydaman, not sure if its for linux tho
[08:05] <Lichte> segfault, it's very nice
[08:05] <deFrysk> percydaman, its 155 megs so probably all known osses
[08:05] <metis> still on the hard drive but its not running right now happy
[08:06] <sergio> Hay alguien qe hable espaol?? Who can speak spanish??
[08:06] <HappyFool> metis: so you're on ubuntu now?
[08:06] <metis> yuppers
[08:06] <brenner> !es
[08:06] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[08:06] <deFrysk> percydaman, takes about 10 minutes
[08:06] <Lichte> segfault, but if you change the line for hoary-extra to breezy-extra, it doesn't work
[08:06] <percydaman> interesting.  i had assumed it was just macOS trial
[08:06] <topyli> segphault: very few problems with breezy
[08:06] <HappyFool> metis: well, try installing apache and copying the site across; see what happens
[08:06] <deFrysk> percydaman, real;y no clu but looking at the size , could be more then one
[08:06] <metis> links to pictures on iis are for ex... c:\inetpub\images\*.jpg    will these links not work when i change to apache??
[08:07] <percydaman> your prolly right
[08:07] <segphault> Lichte & topyli: thx
[08:07] <HappyFool> metis: no, those won't work
[08:07] <Lichte> segfault, welcome
[08:07] <HappyFool> metis: maybe you can use a text editor to search-and-replace them ?
[08:07] <charlesj> happyfool: it worked!
[08:07] <HappyFool> charlesj: great :)
[08:07] <shawnz> hmm. I'm having trouble compiling transset-df on ubuntu
[08:07] <Lichte> topyli, do yo have a repo for breezy-extra in your sources.list ?
[08:07] <shawnz> anyone done it before?
[08:07] <charlesj> happyfool: thanks again
[08:07] <HappyFool> no problem
[08:08] <darknature> how do i change the GDM theme and splash screen?
[08:08] <HappyFool> darknature: system -> admin -> login screen setup
[08:08] <shawnz> System > Administration > login screen
[08:08] <metis> i was hoping i could somehow may my current iis .... without messing with my links
[08:08] <shawnz> splash screen i dunno though.
[08:08] <topyli> Lichte: no, i don't seem to
[08:08] <metis> map my IIS
[08:09] <Lichte> topyli, ok
[08:09] <shawnz> anyone compiled transset-df on ubuntu before?
[08:09] <darknature> ok thanks
[08:09] <brenner> darknature: splashscreen: install gtweakui
[08:09] <HappyFool> metis: i suspect that will be hard to do. are absolute links like that a good idea anyway?
[08:09] <svizzero> anyone knows how to start a program automatically after kde started?
[08:10] <vern401> which yahoo messsanger should I use in breezy?
[08:10] <WhiteRabbit> gaim
[08:10] <xerox> Hi.
[08:10] <WhiteRabbit> kopete
[08:10] <topyli> vern401: gaim
[08:10] <metis> im pretty new to this ... not sure if im going about it the right way
[08:10] <vern401> ok TY
[08:10] <chavo> svizzero: you can either put a script\.desktop file in ~/.kde/Autostart
[08:10] <svizzero> thx
[08:10] <WhiteRabbit> metis, Im sure she likes you for who you are ;)~
[08:11] <chavo> or have the program running when you log out, it will save your session
[08:11] <xerox> Do you know where Firefox gets which application use to open a certain type of file?  I can't find a way to convince it to open pdfs with evince instead of xpdf.  I found a mime types directory... but I can't really understand how to hijack the process :-)
[08:11] <HappyFool> metis: my impression is that it's best to have relative links in html, if possible
[08:11] <metis> white what are you trying to say?
[08:12] <Lichte> so no one here has a line for breezy-extra in their sources.list ?!
[08:12] <brenner> xerox: iirc, uses the app specified in nautilus' properties -> open with......could be something in FF's prefs though
[08:12] <topyli> xerox: link xpdf to evince and move xpdf to xpdf.real :)
[08:12] <xerox> brenner: I'll search in nautilus, good idea.
[08:12] <cute_bettong> anyone know if point2play is broken in breezy?
[08:12] <darknature> so no one knows how to install the splash screen?
[08:13] <brenner> xerox: right click a pdf file > properties > open with tab
[08:13] <enyc> cute: no idea, what a point2play anyway [?]
[08:13] <cute_bettong> it's a compatibility layer to play windows games in linux
[08:13] <pedrobest> hello all. i am a newish user of linux and irc and i need some help gaining root privileges in kubuntu. i think that in irc you can talk individually - could someone start an individual session with me or shall i talk to the group?
[08:13] <cute_bettong> at least thats my understanding of it
[08:13] <brenner> darknature: you mean the one at desktop load?
[08:14] <Trebz> Could anyone possibly tell me what I need in order to be able to connect to a VPN in Ubuntu?  I need to connect to both a cisco VPN and a windows VPN
[08:14] <dalamar> cute_bettong, i'd suggest #cedega if anyone's alive in there
[08:14] <charlesj> darknature: go to applications>system tools>COnfiguration Editor
[08:14] <darknature> k thanks
[08:14] <percydaman> pedrobest: have you created a root password?
[08:14] <charlesj> darknature: select apps>gnome-session>options
[08:14] <topyli> dalamar: they're probably all chatting through their game interfaces :)
[08:15] <xerox> brenner: nautilus does open .pdf files with evince.
[08:15] <dalamar> heh
[08:15] <charlesj> darknature: edit the splash_image key to point to the file you want
[08:15] <darknature> and i just replace the splash file?
[08:15] <cute_bettong> speaking of splash screens and such i went to gnome-look.org and downloaded a bunch of stuff now how do i install it?
[08:15] <topyli> dalamar: with shotguns!
[08:15] <pedrobest> apparently the kubuntu install disables the root account and gives the first created account sudo / su privalige
[08:15] <HappyFool> !root
[08:15] <ubotu> I guess root is disabled in Ubuntu, you can read all about it on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo
[08:15] <cute_bettong> actually no one seems to have herd of breezy yet in #cedega
[08:15] <deFrysk> cute_bettong, its explained in art.gnome.org
[08:15] <koploper> pedrobest: talk to the group, that way some other readers (like me) can learn to
[08:15] <Dr_Willis> pedrobest,  thats how ubuntu works.
[08:15] <dalamar> pedrobest, all ubuntu installs do this
[08:16] <brenner> xerox: ok then...you tried the file types sections in FF's prefs?
[08:16] <cute_bettong> anyone know how to install stuff from gnomelook.org?
[08:16] <pedrobest> yeah i kown but i need root and it wont work
[08:16] <deFrysk> cute_bettong, its explained in art.gnome.org
[08:16] <enyc> pedr: do "sudo su -" to become root temporarially
[08:16] <cute_bettong> thanx
[08:16] <percydaman> pedrobest:  http://www.ubuntu.com/support/documentation/faq/root
[08:16] <HappyFool> just 'sudo -s' will work
[08:16] <enyc> pedr: generally, just do "sudo <command>" to run as root
[08:16] <topyli> pedrobest: why do you need root?
[08:17] <pedrobest> i need root to set up wlan and user account for a family pc. but sudo -s
[08:17] <pedrobest> doesnt work
[08:17] <HappyFool> sudo -s doesn't work? what's the error?
[08:17] <pedrobest> it cant find the /public/something dir
[08:18] <heke> can someone say the link to ubuntu package shearch page ?
[08:18] <pedrobest> my install seem to not have a /public dir - is that not odd
[08:18] <shawnz> heke, use synaptic
[08:18] <dalamar> there is no public dir in /
[08:18] <HappyFool> pedrobest: i don't have a /public dir and sudo -s works fine
[08:18] <topyli> pedrobest: not at all
[08:18] <xerox> brenner: I can't understand how to change it in FF's prefs.
[08:18] <brenner> heke: packages.ubuntu.com
[08:18] <HappyFool> pedrobest: how did you install ubuntu? normal, server, expert ?
[08:18] <pedrobest> that alight then
[08:18] <heke> thanks
[08:18] <topyli> pedrobest: but if you want one, create it
[08:19] <pedrobest> i installed kubuntu from the install cd
[08:19] <brenner> xerox: what don't you get?
[08:19] <pedrobest> normal
[08:19] <percydaman> yeah theres a command to create a root password, but i cant remember it
[08:19] <dalamar> sudo passwd root
[08:19] <topyli> pasaswd :)
[08:19] <topyli> passwd even
[08:19] <pedrobest> yes but i cant gain any sudo privileges
[08:19] <HappyFool> pedrobest: are you on kubuntu now ?
[08:19] <oolon> passwd root
[08:19] <darknature> hmm do i replace the splash file with the new one?
[08:20] <darknature> because im still confused on how to set the keys
[08:20] <pedrobest> im on my other xp [yuck]  pc
[08:20] <fanskapet> timestamps = ON
[08:20] <fanskapet> agh.
[08:20] <HappyFool> pedrobest: can the other machine access the internet?
[08:20] <percydaman> deFrysk:  still downloading?  Im at 75%
[08:20] <pedrobest> not yet - i need root privileges to run kwifimanager
[08:20] <HappyFool> pedrobest: hmm. ok, can you tell us the exact error of 'sudo ls' ?
[08:20] <LethAL-Rocks> sudo kwifimanager?
[08:20] <LethAL-Rocks> ah
[08:20] <brenner> xerox: edit > prefs > downloads on left > file types section
[08:21] <deFrysk> percydaman, dont work
[08:21] <HappyFool> pedrobest: and does it ask you for a password before it fails, or not?
[08:21] <pedrobest> ill just go check - back in a sec
[08:21] <percydaman> its mac?
[08:21] <deFrysk> .dmg
[08:21] <deFrysk> whatthat /
[08:21] <brenner> darknature: like i said, gtweakui....it's a nice frontend to gconf configs
[08:21] <xerox> brenner: that list is empty.  And the change/remove buttons aren't clickable :(
[08:21] <percydaman> lol i have no idea what .dmg is
[08:22] <percydaman> it must be mac based
[08:22] <LethAL-Rocks> It is
[08:22] <emilio> p
[08:22] <LethAL-Rocks> afaik it's like an iso
[08:22] <lemur> .dmg is a disk image
[08:22] <LethAL-Rocks> ^^
[08:22] <brenner> xerox: hmmm...but clicking on a pdf file opens the app you don't want?
[08:22] <percydaman> ahhh..for mac?
[08:22] <LethAL-Rocks> ya
[08:22] <lemur> that for some reason is what all installable software comes in the form of
[08:22] <percydaman> damn
[08:22] <deFrysk> oh I have to burn it hehe
[08:22] <lemur> at least, when you download it
[08:22] <h17m4n> Is there a GUI ftp server that I could use on ubuntu?
[08:22] <deFrysk> righto
[08:23] <bytefoo> why are all my dvds interlaced in linux :|
[08:23] <lemur> MacOS will mount the dmg as a loopback device and put it on your desktop, then you drag and drop the program icon to install it
[08:23] <bytefoo> why i ask, why :(
[08:23] <lemur> it's ingeniously simple and horribly misguiding
[08:23] <LethAL-Rocks> lol
[08:23] <LethAL-Rocks> yeah
[08:23] <xerox> brenner: (in firefox) exactly.
[08:23] <shawnz> anyone had any luck compiling transset-df here
[08:23] <brenner> bytefoo: what player?
[08:23] <LethAL-Rocks> I read something about uninstalling apps by dragging them off the dock
[08:23] <bytefoo> i've tried totem and gxine
[08:23] <percydaman> haha...damn apple
[08:23] <bytefoo> and both interlace :-/
[08:23] <brenner> bytefoo: there's a deinterlace option in totem
[08:23] <lemur> you can remove things from the dock by dragging them off of it, but I don't know about uninstalling if
[08:23] <bytefoo> and deinterlace is useless lol
[08:23] <LethAL-Rocks> n00bs should be on macs, geeks on linux distro's ;)
[08:23] <bytefoo> it does absolutely nothing brenner :/
[08:23] <deFrysk> and how does one burn a .dmg
[08:24] <LethAL-Rocks> dmg2iso
[08:24] <lemur> if by "uninstall" they mean "get it off the desktop", which is the same to a mac user
[08:24] <brenner> bytefoo: how can you tell anyway? :)
[08:24] <heke> what is the  bzlib devel package
[08:24] <lemur> burn a .dmg?  I don't know if that's necessary
[08:24] <_lui_> hey people, ow do I get Gnome 2.12 on my ubuntu?
[08:24] <brenner> bytefoo: do you get corruption?
[08:24] <lemur> but if you want to, I don't know how :(
[08:24] <bytefoo> by the lines everywhere lol
[08:24] <Lichte> does anyone using breezy have a breezy-extra repo in sources.list ?
[08:24] <bytefoo> the jagged edges, etc
[08:24] <LethAL-Rocks> lol
[08:24] <bytefoo> the interlacing lol
[08:24] <heke> what is the  bzlib devel package
[08:24] <HappyFool> heke: libbz2-dev, at a guess
[08:24] <percydaman> deFrysk:  if its a mac image file, i doubt its meant to work on linux
[08:24] <HappyFool> heke: try 'apt-cache search' -- very useful for this sort of thing
[08:25] <brenner> xerox: hmm..searched the forum?  sorry...dunno what else
[08:25] <LethAL-Rocks> I'm sure it (dmg2iso) is a python script, I just dunno where I saw it
[08:25] <xerox> brenner: thanks for the uspport, I'll search.
[08:25] <HappyFool> heke: also 'apt-get build-dep' -- even more useful for building apps
[08:25] <brenner> bytefoo: in my experience, that goes away in full screen
[08:25] <deFrysk> LethAL-Rocks, I'll find it
[08:25] <_lui_> hey people, ow do I get Gnome 2.12 on my ubuntu?
[08:25] <LethAL-Rocks> :)
[08:25] <lemur> in linux, you might try mount -o loop -t ufs filename.dmg /mount/directory
[08:25] <LethAL-Rocks> could work
[08:25] <lemur> I have no idea what the file system is really...maybe something other than hfs
[08:25] <LethAL-Rocks> better with an iso :P
[08:25] <lemur> I wrote ufs by accident--I meant hfs
[08:25] <percydaman> looks like its a perl script
[08:25] <percydaman> i googled img2iso
[08:26] <Cryptid> Hey i am installing KDE core on my ubuntu do i have to configure my inter and other setting all over again coz i had a problem with Linuxes that run on Kde and the problem is that my Net dosent work
[08:26] <_lui_> hey people, ow do I get Gnome 2.12 on my ubuntu?
[08:26] <LethAL-Rocks> install it via synaptic
[08:26] <_lui_> hey people, how do I get Gnome 2.12 on my ubuntu?
[08:26] <LethAL-Rocks> install it via synaptic
[08:26] <HappyFool> _lui_: please stop repeating yourself
[08:26] <Lichte> _lui_, upgrade to breezy
[08:26] <chavo> _lui_: keep repeating it over and over
[08:26] <Dr_Willis> Cryptid,  kde shouldent be messing with your network
[08:26] <chavo> and it will come to you
[08:27] <pedrobest> here is exactly the result of sudo -s
[08:27] <pedrobest> sudo: unable to lookup family1 via gethostbyname()
[08:27] <pedrobest> Password: postdrop  warning: unable to look up public/pickup: No such file or directory
[08:27] <pedrobest> family1 is the name of the pc. there might have been a : after postdrop
[08:27] <Cryptid> DR_Willis are u sure bout that coz i dont want to end up reinstalling my Ubuntu all over again
[08:27] <LethAL-Rocks> If I go for KDE, can I uninstall everything with gnome in the name/desc?
[08:27] <HappyFool> pedrobest: hrm
[08:28] <LethAL-Rocks> Anyone?
[08:28] <chavo> LethAL-Rocks: yes
[08:28] <shawnz> LethAL-Rocks, apt-get remove ubuntu-desktop scraps gnome
[08:28] <chavo> you can uninstall gnome
[08:28] <HappyFool> pedrobest: sounds like networking is screwed-up, but i'm not sure how, or why sudo is involved
[08:28] <shawnz> apt-get install kubuntu-desktop gets kde
[08:28] <Dr_Willis> Cryptid,  installing kubuntu-desktop on your ubuntu system will not affect yoru networking.. if it does.. thers some bug going on.
[08:28] <LethAL-Rocks> I know I can uninstall gnome
[08:28] <darknature> ok where do i got to replace the .png file that does the splash screen?
[08:28] <shawnz> it also adds/removes all the applications that come with it
[08:28] <chombee> Hello, very sorry someone was explaining this to me earlier and I had to leave - is Beagle installed by default in Breezy? There is some Search & Indexing thing...
[08:28] <lemur> can I do atp-get install freebsd?
[08:28] <cdc> hello roomies
[08:28] <shawnz> rofl
[08:28] <LethAL-Rocks> ^^
[08:28] <shawnz> freebsd isnt even linux lemur
[08:28] <cdc> can i ask something?
[08:28] <pedrobest> happyfool: how can networking be involved?
[08:29] <LethAL-Rocks> let's hope no-one asks for apt-get install windows
[08:29] <lemur> me too
[08:29] <brenner> shawnz: really? i thought removing ubuntu-desktop just removes a metapackage. that's it.
[08:29] <HappyFool> pedrobest: that gethostbyname() call
[08:29] <chavo> lemur: apt-get install clue
[08:29] <cdc> f
[08:29] <brenner> i.e. leaves gnome
[08:29] <shawnz> brenner, yes. but
[08:29] <Cryptid> DR_Willis i have kubuntu Live disc can u help me configure my internet settings on it i will tell u what my internet setting are
[08:29] <wold> how do I know which sound driver I should choose.. in alsaconfig?
[08:29] <shawnz> it takes all the other packages with it.
[08:29] <pedrobest> happyfool: any ideas?
[08:29] <cdc> do the breeze badger
[08:29] <brenner> shawnz: er, doubt it....
[08:29] <Dr_Willis> Cryptid,  i have no CLUE what sort of internet connection you are using.
[08:29] <HappyFool> pedrobest: i need some more info; are you next to the other computer?
[08:29] <chombee> brenner, shawnz - removing the meta-package should not remove any real packages
[08:29] <darknature> what folders in the file system has the splash screen .png?
[08:30] <brenner> shawnz: i've seen people ask about removing ubuntu-desktop when other packages ask to. they still have their gnome desktop after
[08:30] <pedrobest> happyfool: it only just downstairs
[08:30] <cdc> what window emulator you use for breezy badger?
[08:30] <Cryptid> my ip is <IP_ADDRESS> subnet is <IP_ADDRESS> gate way is <IP_ADDRESS> and Preferred DNS is <IP_ADDRESS> now tell me how to put in all this info and make my net work
[08:30] <brenner> chombee: thought so....so how does one remove gnome?
[08:30] <Cryptid> Dr_Willis my ip is <IP_ADDRESS> subnet is <IP_ADDRESS> gate way is <IP_ADDRESS> and Preferred DNS is <IP_ADDRESS> now tell me how to put in all this info and make my net work
[08:30] <cdc> what window emulator you use for breezy badger?
[08:30] <shawnz> window emulator? O.o
[08:30] <brenner> there a echo in here?
[08:31] <cdc> to run games on linux
[08:31] <charlesj> cryptid: go to system>administration>networking
[08:31] <chombee> shawnz: it seems advisable to keep the meta-package though, if Ubuntu wanted to add a new default app or something they'd probably stick it in the metapackage as an update
[08:31] <HappyFool> pedrobest: hmm. ok, i'll try to give you a list of commands to run
[08:31] <cdc> to run games on linux
[08:31] <Dr_Willis> Cryptid,  go to the menus and  run the network config tool and enter the #'s  would be about what you need to do. I dont have the exactt layout of the live cd memorized
[08:31] <shawnz> chombee say that to kde apps and installing them without kubuntu-desktop then.
[08:31] <Cryptid> Charlesj i have done that but it dosent work on kubuntu
[08:31] <brenner> cdc: cedega....now hush.
[08:31] <chombee> brenner - hmmm... another package, don't know what, or you can do a server install and never put gnome there in the first place, that works well
[08:31] <cdc> thanks
[08:31] <cdc> brenner
[08:31] <HappyFool> pedrobest: 1. 'hostname' (should show 'family1'); 2. 'grep family1 /etc/hosts' (should, but probably won't, show '<IP_ADDRESS>   localhost family1')
[08:32] <Cryptid> ok wait i will try what u said DR_Willis
[08:32] <charlesj> cryptid: i dont use kubuntu. so not sure what it looks like there
[08:32] <HappyFool> pedrobest: try also 'ping family1' -- that should fail
[08:32] <shawnz> agh, stupid transset-df
[08:32] <cdc> anyone hera acomputer shop owner using linux box?
[08:32] <HappyFool> pedrobest: the failure should be 'ping: unknown host family1'
[08:32] <chombee> shawnz - what do you mean?
[08:32] <shawnz> chombee it wont compile
[08:32] <oolon> Cryptid, i use kubuntu what are you try to do
[08:32] <Cryptid> charlesj my net works fine on ubuntu but not on kubuntu thats my whole problem
[08:32] <HappyFool> pedrobest: can you try those, please?
[08:32] <chombee> shawnz - what won't compile?
[08:33] <Lichte> will there be a breezy-extra when breezy is released ?
[08:33] <pedrobest> happyfool: sure back in a sec
[08:33] <Dr_Willis> Cryptid,  you mean the Ubuntu LIVE cd.. vs the Kubuntu Live cd?
[08:33] <deFrysk> ik stop ermee
[08:33] <Cryptid> oolon help me configure my internet on kubuntu
[08:33] <deFrysk> I'mm off
[08:33] <deFrysk> pc goes off here
[08:33] <andre_r> hey, how can i give the mounted hard drives in computer:/// more meaningful names?
[08:33] <Cryptid> Yes Dr_Willis
[08:33] <brenner> Cryptid: #kubuntu
[08:33] <shawnz> chombee, transset-df.
[08:33] <inva|id> what is the next release, after breezy, going to be names
[08:33] <darknature> anyone know where to go to replace the logon splash screen?
[08:33] <oolon> look in /etc/network/interfaces
[08:33] <Dr_Willis> Cryptid,  then ya should be stating so. :P     people are assuming you mean an installed to hd system.
[08:33] <vanberge> darknature, if using gnome, use configuration editor
[08:33] <darknature> i went there
[08:34] <chombee> oh, dependencies?
[08:34] <Cryptid> oolon check on top i gave my internet settings how do i configure them on kubuntu
[08:34] <cdc> kubuntu is breezy badger right?
[08:34] <shawnz> cdc, um
[08:34] <shawnz> no
[08:34] <darknature> i don't understand about the keys
[08:34] <vanberge> here, i'll find it....
[08:34] <cdc> i tot so
[08:34] <brenner> gtweakui
[08:34] <shawnz> chombee: dunno, but it errors during make.
[08:34] <nik> GUYS
[08:34] <vanberge> darknature, hold on just a sec.
[08:34] <da_bon_bon> hi all
[08:34] <darknature> where do i excract this splash screen file?
[08:34] <chombee> shawnz - what is the error message?
[08:34] <nik> How do I get a media player to actually work in Ubuntu?
[08:34] <shawnz> there are tonnes.
[08:34] <Cryptid> oolon my ip is <IP_ADDRESS> subnet is <IP_ADDRESS> gate way is <IP_ADDRESS> and Preferred DNS is <IP_ADDRESS> now tell me how to put in all this info and make my net work
[08:34] <HappyFool> cdc: there'll be a ubuntu and kubuntu breezy badger releases; i think the previews were released on the same day
[08:34] <Dr_Willis> !mplayer
[08:34] <ubotu> well, mplayer is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MplayerInstallHowto.  For compiling, see: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=31061
[08:34] <brenner> ubotu: tell nik about restricted
[08:34] <bobbyd> hi
[08:35] <chombee> shawnz - then take the first one..
[08:35] <cdc> happyfool whats the difference among those two?
[08:35] <vanberge> darknature, configuration editor > apps > gnome session > splash_image
[08:35] <bobbyd> does anyone know of a good guide for setting up smtp auth with postfix under ubuntu?
[08:35] <shawnz> brenner, its a bot.
[08:35] <dijungal> hello
[08:35] <shawnz> :/
[08:35] <dijungal> what has mad ubuntu such a popular distro
[08:35] <HappyFool> cdc: one comes with gnome, the other with kde (different graphical environments); however, they use the same underlying system software
[08:35] <vanberge> darknature, sorry... you have to go under 'options' under gnome-session...
[08:35] <dijungal> i am looking to move over to linux but i am looking for a good distro
[08:35] <enyc> diju: im not sure ;p
[08:36] <darknature> yeah i went there
[08:36] <LethAL-Rocks> dijungal, maybe Ubuntu ;)
[08:36] <cdc> sorry happyfool an a first time user of linux
[08:36] <enyc> diju: I suggest you play with  ubuntu when its' formally released as breezy  next-month
[08:36] <vanberge> dijungal, ease of use...   vast array of software available
[08:36] <cdc> and want to learn more of it
[08:36] <HappyFool> cdc: not a problem at all
[08:36] <darknature> i just need to know where to extract this .png file
[08:36] <bobbyd> dijungal, I think ubuntu would be a good first distro, it's easy top install and it has up top date software
[08:36] <Hoxzer> :E
[08:36] <dijungal> mepis i thought was "the one" ... but i just looked at distrowatch and ubuntu is topping the charts.. so i am having second thoughts
[08:36] <nik> Linux is really starting to tick me off.
[08:36] <bytefoo> yesss.... vlc to the rescue
[08:36] <vanberge> dijungal, solid foundation for advance users
[08:36] <bytefoo> why :/
[08:36] <HappyFool> cdc: you may find more information on www.ubuntu.com -- try also wiki.ubuntu.com. You are also welcome to ask questions here.
[08:36] <dijungal> is ubuntu based on debian...?
[08:36] <shawnz> aha chombee
[08:36] <bobbyd> nik, how so?
[08:36] <vanberge> nik, why?
[08:36] <enyc> diju: yes, basically
[08:36] <cdc> thanks happfool
[08:36] <bobbyd> dijungal, yes
[08:36] <dijungal> nice.. :)
[08:37] <shawnz> it cant find 'xcomposite.pc'
[08:37] <dijungal> debian is solid
[08:37] <Tomcat_> dijungal: mepis is supposed to be good as well, you should really try out more distros and then take the one you like.
[08:37] <pedrobest> happyfool: ok - .1 - failed correctly .2 - no etc/hosts dir .3 - failed correctly
[08:37] <nik> Why can't it just come ready to play any type of media?
[08:37] <Hoxzer> strange windows whines I have too less space in my fat32 partition and when I check it I have 30 GB's left
[08:37] <oolon> Cryptid, look here scroll about midway to Configuring network http://archive.ubuntulinux.org/ubuntu/dists/warty/main/installer-i386/current/doc/manual/en/apcs03.html
[08:37] <nik> I don't KNOW how do do things with the command line.
[08:37] <shawnz> nik, because its linux.
[08:37] <nik> Yeah.
[08:37] <nik> That's rediculous.
[08:37] <nik> :(
[08:37] <shawnz> if you're use to everything being done for you, go windows.
[08:37] <HappyFool> pedrobest: 1 failed ? what did 'hostname' say ?
[08:37] <patric> has anyone also problems with hotplug?
[08:37] <darknature> so where do I extract this .png file to make the splash work?
[08:37] <bobbyd> nik, because some kinds of media are proprietary
[08:37] <nik> It's an MPEG
[08:37] <shawnz> darknature, anywhere.
[08:37] <enyc> nik: usually because of the silly licensing problems with media you may be referring to
[08:37] <oolon> Cryptid, it gives example cinfig
[08:37] <Tomcat_> dijungal: I think Ubuntu is so popular because of the community and the procedures between the people... it's easy to get help, it's easy to do things, it's easy to interact.
[08:37] <pedrobest> happyfool: no sorry it did what you said it should
[08:37] <bobbyd> nik, if the open source world propogate closed formats, they become more popular
[08:38] <bobbyd> nik, in that case it should work
[08:38] <nik> and on BOTH mediaplayers can't play it.
[08:38] <dijungal> tomcat:ok.. that can be true
[08:38] <Cryptid> oolon thanx i will read this stuff
[08:38] <darknature> ok the file's name is ubuntu-smooth-splash.png
[08:38] <enyc> whats a ''BOTH'' mediaplayers?
[08:38] <darknature> what do i type in the value keys?
[08:38] <nik> Kaffiene and Totem
[08:38] <darknature> just the name of the file?
[08:38] <oolon> Cryptid, your trying to use a gateway or static ip?
[08:38] <HappyFool> pedrobest: did you type 'grep family1 etc/hosts' or 'grep family1 /etc/hosts' ?
[08:38] <bobbyd> nik, in that case it's possibly not a valid file, have you tried it under windows?
[08:38] <oolon> you're*
[08:38] <bobbyd> nik, have you tested other media files
[08:38] <nik> Yes, it works there.
[08:38] <nik> Yes, no media works.
[08:38] <nik> Except MP3
[08:38] <pedrobest> happyfool: not sure ill do it again
[08:39] <bobbyd> nik, bu the way, windows media player doesn't play most of the files I try to play on it, so it's not just a linux problem
[08:39] <enyc> Try installing   XINE, VLC, Mplayer  ??
[08:39] <shawnz> chombee?
[08:39] <HappyFool> pedrobest: the second one is correct
[08:39] <Tomcat_> dijungal: I have tried SuSE, Mandrake, Debian and Ubuntu... and Ubuntu just had the right feeling to it, and it was the first distro that got me away from Windows.
[08:39] <Cryptid> i have a static ip and the gateway is <IP_ADDRESS>
[08:39] <enyc> What media formats exactly you havging trouble with?
[08:39] <HappyFool> pedrobest: if you have no /etc/hosts file, something is (very?) wrong
[08:39] <Cryptid> oolon i have a static ip and the gateway is <IP_ADDRESS>
[08:39] <dijungal> tomcat: ok well i'll look at the livecd again
[08:40] <Tomcat_> dijungal: Yeah, do that. :)
[08:40] <nik> "There are no decoders found to handle the stream."
[08:40] <Cryptid> oolon my ip add is <IP_ADDRESS>
[08:40] <shawnz> sigh
[08:40] <dijungal> thanx folks
[08:40] <shawnz> Cryptid, we HEARD you
[08:40] <enyc> nik: what format media file  did you mean ?
[08:40] <pedrobest> happyfool: sorry i had done it wrong, but when i did it this time nothing happend it just gave me another command line
[08:40] <nik> .mpeg
[08:40] <bobbyd> nik, sounds like a dodgy file. install mplayer
[08:40] <nik> how do I do that? ;-;
[08:41] <shawnz> vlc to win. comes with tonnes of codecs
[08:41] <HappyFool> pedrobest: ok, for some reason your hostname is not in the /etc/hosts file
[08:41] <Cryptid> oolon the link u gave me is for ubuntu rite but i need help for kubuntu
[08:41] <lemur> apt-get install mplayer
[08:41] <nik> k
[08:41] <shawnz> Cryptid, they are the same?
[08:41] <HappyFool> pedrobest: this is *probably* the problem, but i'm not completely sure
[08:41] <bobbyd> nik, "sudo apt-get install mplayer"
[08:41] <chombee> shawnz - I'm afriad I don't know anything about xcomposite.pc
[08:41] <shawnz> :(
[08:41] <lemur> bobbyd: nice save
[08:41] <HappyFool> pedrobest: to fix this you'll need to boot the machine into rescue mode -- do you know how to do that?
[08:41] <bobbyd> lemur, no problem :)
[08:41] <darknature> how do i get permission to write to a folder?
[08:41] <Cryptid> shawnz ok is it but the 2 diffrent interface confuse me a lot
[08:41] <spike> hello
[08:41] <nik> E: Couldn't find package mplayer
[08:41] <shawnz> Cryptid because one is KDE and one is GNOME
[08:41] <chombee> shawnz - go to the mailing list etc for the thing you're trying to compile
[08:41] <shawnz> theres a bit of a difference
[08:42] <pedrobest> happyfool: no im afraid
[08:42] <bobbyd> Crimguy, join #kubuntu
[08:42] <darkheart> !tell nik about repositories
[08:42] <bobbyd> Cryptid, , join #kubuntu
[08:42] <AdmiralCrunch> Alright, dist-upgrade finished, I am gonna restart, wish me luck
[08:42] <darknature> it won't let me drag anything to the /urs/share/pxmaps/splash
[08:42] <lemur> We need a new game plan
[08:42] <enyc> though, mplayer is in the 'multiverse' repository, and seemingly only in breezy
[08:42] <enyc> maught be in backports, or hoary-extras or somethign
[08:42] <enyc> nik: which ubuntu release/version are you using?
[08:42] <cdc> !nick
[08:42] <ubotu> cdc: What?
[08:42] <anaccount> Is there a way where I am able to reset my ftp password