[12:09] <soulrider> !mp3
[12:10] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[12:10] <XVampireX> Hi
[12:10] <XVampireX> !kbfx
[12:10] <ubotu> kbfx is a replacement menu for KDE with enhanced features
[12:10] <XVampireX> huh
[12:10] <XVampireX> Can anyone help me install kbfx?
[12:10] <XVampireX> SVN
[12:10] <nixternal> heh, bad memory!!!
[12:10] <XVampireX> please?
[12:11] <TheGateKeeper> nixternal: http://www.linuxfordummies.org/index.php?PHPSESSID=c65377ad0afaae12d71bc370d8d08508&topic=609.from1154553701;topicseen#msg1338
[12:13] <cpk2> i dont think you need to downgrade from .4 anymore?
[12:13] <bl3ssing> downgrade? like can I downgrade from kubuntu 6.0.6 to kubuntu 5.10?
[12:13] <TheGateKeeper> cpk2: just incase :-)
[12:14] <cpk2> why would you want to bl3ssing?
[12:14] <Agios> XVampireX: apt-get install kbfx kubuntu-artwork-kbfx
[12:14] <bl3ssing> cpk2, was just a question.
[12:14] <TheGateKeeper> bl3ssing: we are talking KDE here
[12:14] <XVampireX> Agios hmm, I hope that works
[12:15] <Agios> should if you have yout sources right
[12:15] <bl3ssing> win+M means minimize all the windows in Windows XP. is there any command like that in linux?
[12:16] <nixternal> does the Memtest program work at all?
[12:16] <nixternal> everytime i run it, i get different results
[12:17] <Agios> memtest86+ ? Yes, it works quite well.
[12:17] <Hawkwind> nixternal: It needs to be run for atleast 12 hours though to get accurate results
[12:18] <nixternal> ahhh...so i will make a mental note then to never use it, and to just plug in my sticks to my mem tester which will spit out everything in 5 seconds ;)
[12:20] <Ertain> Has anyone had any troubles with getting ManDVD 2.0.10?  I've had some problems.
[12:22] <mmorris> anybody in here?
[12:22] <nixternal> no we all left..will be back soon :)
[12:22] <DaSkreech> bl3ssing: Alt+Ctrl+D
[12:22] <mmorris> I am havintg to open my console everytime I restart my computer.  Is there some kind of file I can create that will type in all of my commands for me
[12:22] <DaSkreech> !Autostart
[12:22] <ubotu> I know nothing about Autostart - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[12:23] <nixternal> yes it should
[12:23] <DaSkreech> `Anyway I have to go home now
[12:23] <nixternal> create it then ;)_
[12:23] <DaSkreech> Night!!
[12:26] <nixternal> ARG!@#@
[12:27] <Ertain> I wonder why I can't get the latest version of ManDVD?
[12:28] <cpk2> does it set kbfx to the default menu if yo install it?
[12:28] <cpk2> you*
[12:28] <cpk2> my wireless seems to keep dying
[12:29] <bl3ssing> who knows a good free music composing program in linux?
[12:30] <cpk2> so anyone have any idea why my wireless card seems to die all the time? i have to continusly do ifdown ifup on it and am using ndiswrapper
[12:36] <creature_> hi
[12:39] <soylose> de donde es esta sala que pais?
[12:39] <Kyral> !es
[12:39] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[12:39] <luke_> how do u extract an .exe?
[12:39] <Kyral> ...You don't
[12:39] <soylose> whatttttttttttttt
[12:40] <luke_> true, damn i fail
[12:41] <soylose> what is this shitttt
[12:41] <luke_> ?
[12:41] <soylose> i dont understand
[12:41] <Kyral> huh?
[12:42] <soylose> walls of jericho
[12:42] <Kyral> ....
[12:43] <mighty-d> hola
[12:43] <bl3ssing> i have a source code. how can I compile and than, install in order to use it?
[12:44] <mighty-d> first check if you'got build-essential
[12:44] <mighty-d> sudo apt-get -f install build-essential
[12:45] <canllaith> ullo, anyone around who uses an iPod in Kubuntu ?
[12:48] <nixternal> APIC error on CPU0: 01(01)
[12:48] <nixternal> lovely!
[12:50] <Agios> noapic
[12:50] <Agios> if you can
[12:50] <nixternal> amd xp 2000+
[12:51] <nixternal> this machine is so hosed now
[12:51] <nixternal> a freakin' upgrade killed it
[12:51] <Agios> upgrades do that sometimes
[12:51] <Agios> you do backups?
[12:52] <nixternal> ~/ is seperate and my only worry
[12:52] <Agios> format and clean install then
[12:52] <cpk2> anyone have any idea why i keep on losing my wireless connection? using ndiswrapper and every 5-15 minutes have to do sudo ifdown sudo ifup to bring my connection back up
[12:52] <nixternal> heh, that sounds like a typical windows solution though ;)
[12:53] <Agios> I've never had an upgrade that didn't hose up somethng.
[12:53] <nixternal> i have never had a problem actually on my other system
[12:53] <plugs> can someone help me out? amarok and kaffeine won't play my mp3s, they just start and end and go down the list.
[12:54] <nixternal> !restricted
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[12:54] <nixternal> there you go plugs ^^
[12:54] <plugs> hmmm
[12:54] <darthlukan> hello everyone
[12:54] <Agios> plugs: start them from a command line and see what errors pop up
[12:54] <Agios> probably missing codecs or plugins
[12:55] <darthlukan> question: anybody good with synaptic on amd_64 dapper?
[12:57] <darthlukan> specifically with installing wine? I looked on the ubuntu forums and there was a very good post about it, but for some reason i get erroes
[01:02] <nanaki_> hey crimsun, you around?
[01:02] <darthlukan> console output from trying to $sudo apt-get --build source wine : checking for C compiler default output file name... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables
[01:02] <darthlukan> See `config.log' for more details.
[01:02] <darthlukan> make: *** [config.status]  Error 77
[01:02] <darthlukan> Build command 'cd wine-0.9.18~winehq0~ubuntu~6.06 && dpkg-buildpackage -b -uc' failed.
[01:02] <darthlukan> E: Child process failed
[01:03] <darthlukan> anyone got any ideas?
[01:03] <darthlukan> i already invoked $sudo apt-get build-deps wine
[01:03] <Hawkwind> darthlukan: Use a pastebin instead of flooding the channel
[01:03] <darthlukan> what's that?
[01:04] <Hawkwind> pastebin.ca
[01:04] <__osh__> darthlukan: and you've got build-essentials installed?
[01:04] <darthlukan> yeah
[01:04] <Hawkwind> !pastebin
[01:04] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[01:04] <darthlukan> thanks
[01:05] <__osh__> darthlukan: looks like you've got some issues with your c compiler. what's the version of the compiler you have installed?
[01:05] <darthlukan> gcc 3.4 if i remember right
[01:06] <__osh__> darthlukan: not 4.0? I've got that.
[01:06] <darthlukan> let me check, i just installed it today ;_
[01:06] <nanaki_> well hey i guess crimsun isn't here but one of you other guys might know what to do
[01:07] <nanaki_> i submitted a bug to launchpad a while ago, a minor cosmetic thing
[01:07] <nanaki_> well i just found a fix for it inadvertently
[01:07] <nanaki_> what should i do with the bug?
[01:07] <darthlukan> gcc 4.0.3
[01:07] <nanaki_> i hesitate to change it to fix released because it's not like a change in the kubuntu package was made
[01:07] <__osh__> nanaki_: report how to fix it in the bugreport.
[01:07] <nanaki_> see the page here: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/gtk-qt-engine/+bug/53958
[01:07] <nanaki_> ya i did that
[01:07] <nanaki_> should i change the status at all?
[01:08] <__osh__> nanaki_: that's what I'd do. Then leave it. Someone who's handeling that package will decide what to do with it.
[01:08] <nanaki_> ok thanks
[01:08] <__osh__> darthlukan: can you compile anything with the gcc you've got installed?
[01:10] <plugs> how do i let myself write to my sources.list which is owned by root?
[01:10] <darthlukan> do i just copy the pastebin link to chat?
[01:10] <__osh__> darthlukan: yep
[01:10] <darthlukan> ok
[01:10] <__osh__> plugs: sudo before your edit command.
[01:10] <plugs> i'll try that
[01:11] <darthlukan> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19728
[01:11] <darthlukan> i compiled vmware just fine last night
[01:11] <darthlukan> C compiler was going fast too, but for some reason i have issues installing any version of wine that i have tried
[01:12] <__osh__> darthlukan: perhaps a dumb question, but why compile everything? Why not using the binary packages? Not that it shouldn't work, but why?
[01:12] <jmichaelx> in many cases, when i try to view embedded streaming video, i can get the audio, but where the video should be, i just have a black box that says 'no picture'. would anyone have an idea what i need to do to get this fixed?
[01:12] <darthlukan> i was getting errors that there was no candidate
[01:12] <darthlukan> even though i followed the walkthrough in the forum to the letter
[01:13] <darthlukan> otherwise i would have just apt-get'd everything, so much easier!
[01:13] <__osh__> darthlukan: sure is.
[01:14] <darthlukan> not as easy as emerge in gentoo, but easy nonetheless
[01:14] <darthlukan> ;)
[01:14] <__osh__> darthlukan: emerge is easier than apt-get? how?
[01:15] <darthlukan> easier for me to remember the commands
[01:15] <__osh__> darthlukan: my wine from the repos is 0.9.9, which seems to be newer than what you're trying to build.
[01:16] <darthlukan> and there are a lot of builtin options for fast mirrors
[01:16] <darthlukan> did you have to do anything special to get apt-get to recognize it as a good candidate?
[01:16] <__osh__> darthlukan: not that I dont' like emerge, I've tried it, but eventually I got bored with gentoo. too much time wasted on fixing things that should have been the default.
[01:17] <__osh__> darthlukan: what do you mean by "good candidate"?
[01:17] <darthlukan> true true
[01:17] <darthlukan> the console output says that there are no good candidtates for install
[01:17] <darthlukan> i'll pastebin the output
[01:18] <kakalto> is there or is there not issues with kde3.5.4 atm?
[01:18] <__osh__> I just installed wine 0.9.9-0ubuntu2 on my machine. seems to have gone quite well.
[01:19] <darthlukan> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19729
[01:19] <darthlukan> there you go
[01:19] <darthlukan> i was trying to install wine-0.9.18
[01:19] <darthlukan> the newest one
[01:19] <darthlukan> i think
[01:19] <kakalto> darthlukan: what repos do you have enabled?
[01:19] <kakalto> !wine > kakalto
[01:20] <darthlukan> the defaults
[01:20] <kakalto> !wine > darthlukan
[01:20] <darthlukan> what is that?
[01:20] <__osh__> !wine > _osh_
[01:21] <kakalto> instructions
[01:21] <kakalto> heheh.
[01:21] <darthlukan> ahh thanks
[01:21] <darthlukan> be back in a minute after i read those
[01:22] <kakalto> okie dokie
[01:22] <kakalto> good luck with it =)
[01:22] <__osh__> darthlukan: kakalto probably can help you better than me. I'm off to bed anyway.
[01:22] <darthlukan> thanks osh for trying
[01:24] <__osh__> darthlukan: no worries. good luck.
[01:27] <rOOb> anyone have any kinda idea why anything with wine can and does lock up or restart my computer....
[01:27] <lmosher> Physical security isn't a concern for my laptop, but making things simple for my wife is... Is there a way to make the login screen look more like windows? I.E. just click a picture and you log in?
[01:27] <shadedpast> help, I'm trying to play starcraft on a network with udp but when i click udp it unable to establish a connection or whatever, it worked on ubuntu
[01:28] <rOOb> i have cedega,wine ,and crossover office and they all can crash my computer...i say it cuz sometimes it does
[01:28] <shadedpast> no clu roob
[01:29] <rOOb> my system will just suddenyl reboot...or freeze....
[01:29] <Agios> rOOb: might want to test your ram
[01:29] <linuxgoober> celeron is i586 right?
[01:29] <rOOb> doesnt even look like it makes it to the logs
[01:29] <rOOb> Agios, i will but i doubt its the ram
[01:30] <jmichaelx> in many cases, when i try to view embedded streaming video, i can get the audio, but where the video should be, i just have a black box that says 'no picture'. would anyone have an idea what i need to do to get this fixed?
[01:30] <Hawkwind> rOOb: Definitely sounds like a hardware issue
[01:30] <Hawkwind> rOOb: Simple solution, use Windows if that's the right tool for the job :)
[01:30] <Agios> linuxgoober: I believe that is correct
[01:31] <shadedpast> any one no why starcraft doesn't work with wine?
[01:31] <linuxgoober> ok thanx Agios
[01:31] <rOOb> Hawkwind, well i already have cedega running the games i care about....and i want to install photoshop with crossover office........
[01:31] <Hawkwind> shadedpast: Ask the guys in #WineHQ
[01:31] <shadedpast> o srrry k
[01:31] <rOOb> it worked great when i was on mandriva......i used it till the day i installed kubuntu
[01:32] <Hawkwind> rOOb: Still doesn't eliminate a hardware problem that might have come about since then
[01:32] <Agios> rOOb: how's your swap space and usage?
[01:32] <Hawkwind> rOOb: Though I'd ask the guys in #WineHQ or #Cedega since they are experts on that junky app
[01:33] <rOOb> Agios, i dont even use half of my ram...i have 2 gigs
[01:33] <rOOb> and i dont think any swap is in use
[01:34] <Dr_Willis> I got 1.5 bg ram - rarely touch swap if ever
[01:34] <rOOb> yea i saw my puter use around 900- to 1 gig...and thats very very rare
[01:34] <Agios> Dr_Willis: but are you running wine, etc? :)
[01:35] <Dr_Willis> I have.. Lets see... :P
[01:35] <rOOb> what would be the best place to check for errors....syslog?....
[01:35] <Hawkwind> rOOb: /var/log/messages
[01:35] <Hawkwind> rOOb: Or /var/log/syslog
[01:35] <Dr_Willis> Installing wine
[01:36] <darthlukan> kakalto: i added the repos in adept and fetched the updates, but wine is still not an option
[01:37] <Hawkwind> darthlukan: # Bleeding edge wine packages (packages)
[01:37] <Hawkwind> deb http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt dapper main
[01:37] <Agios> it's listed in mine, you need more sources
[01:37] <Hawkwind> darthlukan: Add those two lines to your /etc/apt/sources.list
[01:37] <Ash-Fox> !sources
[01:37] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[01:37] <Ash-Fox> !easysource
[01:37] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[01:37] <Dr_Willis> >hic<
[01:37] <Hawkwind> darthlukan: That sources has wine 0.9.18
[01:38] <Agios> I thought all wine packages were bleeding edge
[01:38] <darthlukan> i have those in my sources.list already
[01:38] <Hawkwind> darthlukan: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install wine
[01:38] <darthlukan> ok
[01:38] <Hawkwind> darthlukan: Then that should install the latest wine version available
[01:40] <rOOb> well in syslog i see this right b4 the restart.....but my hard drive seems fine....no noises no errors nothing..... http://pastebin.ca/115948
[01:41] <rOOb> not even sure if that is related to the restart....its like 4 minuets off....
[01:41] <darthlukan> Hawkwind: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19730
[01:41] <Agios> that would make me want to do a backup real soon
[01:42] <darthlukan> wine repos don't work, but defaults do
[01:42] <rOOb> is there a disk checking utility?.....
[01:42] <Hawkwind> darthlukan: Notice your sources are different from mine.  You do NOT have 'main' for that source listed
[01:43] <Hawkwind> darthlukan: They work here, I just tested it when I pasted you the info
[01:43] <Hawkwind> rOOb: Is hdb a cdrom ?
[01:43] <rOOb> Hawkwind, no clue....it says tray open
[01:43] <Stardog> when i try to add my printer, i get an errormsg that i cant do it because I do not have the rights... anyone know why?
[01:43] <jhak88> anyone: there's nothing on /usr/src... what's going on??
[01:43] <Hawkwind> rOOb: Ummm you should know if it is or not, it's your system
[01:44] <rOOb> Hawkwind, could crossover office have mucked somthing up and got stuck in loop....making my system mess up?
[01:44] <jhak88> anyone: Anybody know where is the Ubuntu (Kubuntu 6.06 Dapper) Kernel Source is??
[01:44] <Dr_Willis> wine Xtet.exe
[01:44] <Dr_Willis> :)
[01:44] <Hawkwind> rOOb: Is hdb a cdrom ?
[01:44] <rOOb> Hawkwind, well i have one hard drive and its sda1-10
[01:45] <Hawkwind> rOOb: This is a prime example why I don't use this junky software.  Ya'll want to get away from Windows and run Linux, yet you turn right back around and emulate Windows in Linux.  It's totally contradictary
[01:45] <rOOb> and 2 other drives..one dvd rom and one dvd burner
[01:45] <Hawkwind> rOOb: That's *not* what I asked you
[01:45] <Hawkwind> rOOb: Is hdb a cdrom/dvd-rom or similar ?
[01:45] <jhak88> anyone: Anybody know where is the Ubuntu (Kubuntu 6.06 Dapper) Kernel Source is??
[01:45] <Dr_Willis> wine and xtet.exe used up   220596 - 238948    ram.
[01:45] <Hawkwind> jhak88: No need to repeat yourself
[01:45] <Dr_Willis> whatever that diff is. :P
[01:46] <rOOb> Hawkwind, how can i check...... eject /dev/hdb?
[01:46] <Hawkwind> rOOb: Possibly.  But you should know how your system is set up and built
[01:46] <darthlukan> Hawkwind: so i need to add main before universe multiverse?
[01:46] <Hawkwind> rOOb: Surely you would know what cable/chain your cdroms are on
[01:46] <Hawkwind> darthlukan: Add the source I posted you above
[01:46] <rOOb> Hawkwind, i didnt keep track of that..i do however know my main hdd
[01:47] <Hawkwind> rOOb: As a system admin, you *should* keep track of that though incase you need to know in a time like this
[01:47] <rOOb> Hawkwind, hehe yea i have no clue what calbe its on....
[01:47] <draik> Hello everybody
[01:47] <draik> Does anyone know how to read/write to NTFS partition?
[01:48] <draik> !ntfs > me
[01:48] <Hawkwind> rOOb: Do yourself a favor, learn that info real quick.  It'll only benefit you in the long run
[01:48] <Hawkwind> draik: Linux can't write to NTFS yet
[01:49] <Hawkwind> draik: It can with special apps, but even those are very questionable and not recommended at all
[01:49] <draik> Hawkwind, keyword YET
[01:49] <Agios> jhak88: package linux-source
[01:49] <Hawkwind> draik: It'll probably never write to NTFS either
[01:50] <jhak88> where is it stored on the hard disk?
[01:50] <jhak88> Agios: I need to edit the kernel for NTFS writing
[01:50] <Agios> nowhere until you install it, most people just install the headers
[01:50] <draik> Hawkwind, I only have dual boot with winxp for my gf. I modified some files for her and wanted to save them on her partition so that she can freely access them.
[01:50] <Hawkwind> LOL didn't I just mention that Linux can not write to NTFS
[01:51] <jhak88> yes it can
[01:51] <RichJ>  /etc/init.d/rc: line 36: 3026 Segmentation fault            $@
[01:51] <RichJ> anyone?
[01:51] <Agios> jhak88: apt-get install linux-source
[01:51] <Stardog> when i try to add my printer, i get an errormsg that i cant do it because I do not have the rights... anyone know why?
[01:51] <jmichaelx> in many cases, when i try to view embedded streaming video, i can get the audio, but where the video should be, i just have a black box that says 'no picture'. would anyone have an idea what i need to do to get this fixed?
[01:51] <draik> I know, I just thought there was a way, prior to asking the channel
[01:51] <Hawkwind> jhak88: No it can't.  Not successfully without special apps, and even those are very questionable and not recommended
[01:51] <jhak88> Hawkwind: my friends that are Gentoo users do it all the time
[01:51] <Hawkwind> jhak88: Ok.  Best of luck.   I remember reading it a couple of weeks ago.
[01:52] <bigbill52a> she can export from ext3 to ntfs
[01:52] <jhak88> Hawkwind: no need for me to cry, I really dont believe you at all.  Other linux distros can do it, why cant ubuntu?
[01:52] <Agios> I don't remember the details as I have no NTFS.
[01:52] <Hawkwind> Agios: But it still doesn't work.  You still have to use special apps unfortunately
[01:52] <bigbill52a> just a sec
[01:53] <Hawkwind> jhak88: Linux in general can't without special tools.  Read what I'm saying
[01:53] <Agios> I can't argue that since I didn't pay all that much attention LOL
[01:53] <Hawkwind> Gentoo users think they own the world too.  I wouldn't believe a word they say
[01:53] <jhak88> Hawkwind: that's not true, Gentoo does it with simple write support compiled in the kernel.  So what you are saying is not true
[01:54] <Hawkwind> jhak88: That's not true.  Gentoo uses a special app, it's *not* part of the kernel
[01:54] <jhak88> yes it is, it has kernel support
[01:54] <bigbill52a> explore2fs allows you to import files from linux to windows...from the windows side
[01:54] <jhak88> you enable support in the kernel and then you can write to it
[01:54] <Hawkwind> jhak88: Ok.  Believe ehat you want man.  Good luck
[01:54] <bigbill52a> so much for passwords protecting your files...
[01:54] <Dr_Willis> or theres that ext2/3 file system for windows :)
[01:54] <Hawkwind> jhak88: If that was the case, then everyone would be doing it
[01:55] <draik> I'm with you Hawkwind, I just read !fuse and !mountingPartitions
[01:55] <jhak88> no worries, I'll believe the truth ;)
[01:55] <bigbill52a> it is an exe file for windows..i use it all the time
[01:55] <Hawkwind> draik: Exactly
[01:55] <Hawkwind> draik: But jhak88 seems to think differently.  He'll learn the hardway
[01:55] <Agios> It's only windows data anyway. Good test data.
[01:55] <bigbill52a> i like to download movies in linux and then import them into windows...
[01:56] <draik> Hawkwind, you bringing the popcorn or should I?
[01:56] <Gonzo> is there a way to double the size of the task bar without increasing the size of the panels next to the K menu?
[01:56] <jhak88> Hawkwind, then I guess ubuntu's kernel needs a few tweaks ;)
[01:56] <Hawkwind> draik: I won't even waste good popcorn
[01:56] <draik> LOL
[01:56] <Hawkwind> jhak88: The kernel period, not just Ubuntu d00d.  Get a clue
[01:56] <CVirus-Cilantro> how can i update the KDE menu ?
[01:56] <darthlukan> Hawkwind: i just tried it with your sources, i can browse to the site and search it and everything, but apt-get can't connect to it
[01:56] <bigbill52a> kappfinder, i believe
[01:56] <darthlukan> Hawkwind:here is the pastebin: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19731
[01:56] <jhak88> Hawkwind, ever used gentoo-sources?  rather than vanilla?  try it, maybe you'll get a decent kernel then ;)
[01:57] <Hawkwind> darthlukan: Strange.  Maybe it's a DNS issue on your end or something
[01:57] <darthlukan> Hawkwind: maybe
[01:57] <Hawkwind> LOL @ try Gentoo.  I have a hobby.  I don't need one on my computer too
[01:57] <darthlukan> Hawkwind: but apt finds all of the other sources/mirrors
[01:58] <Hawkwind> darthlukan: Ahhh, you're using 64Bit ?
[01:58] <darthlukan> yeah
[01:58] <Hawkwind> There probably isn't a new wine for that yet
[01:58] <darthlukan> winehq says that i shouldn't have a problem with the new release
[01:58] <Agios> http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?thread_id=23836054&forum_id=2697
[01:59] <Agios> there's the URL for the NTFS stuff I saw a couple of weeks ago
[01:59] <Pupeno> Any idea how to do a search and replace in all the files in a directory ?
[01:59] <bigbill52a> http://www.chrysocome.net/explore2fs
[01:59] <Hawkwind> Pupeno: You'd want to use find
[02:00] <jollyroger> Can someone tell me which repositories to use and whats the difference?
[02:00] <Dr_Willis> !easysource
[02:00] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[02:00] <Pupeno> Hawkwind: I tried find . -exec sed -v 's/a/b/g' {} > {} ";" but it didn't work.
[02:00] <Dr_Willis> they containe differnet packjages - normally due to licening issues.
[02:00] <Hawkwind> Pupeno: I don't know bash well enough, have you asked in #Bash maybe ?
[02:01] <Pupeno> Hawkwind: not yet.
[02:01] <Pupeno> Hawkwind: and I am not really using bash.
[02:01] <Hawkwind> Pupeno: Try, but find uses bash to do what you're wanting which is why I suggested that
[02:01] <Pupeno> Hawkwind: the find part works... the sed part seems to be the problem.
[02:04] <jmichaelx> grrrrr
[02:04] <Stardog> when i try to add my printer, i get an errormsg that i cant do it because I do not have the rights... anyone know why?
[02:04] <draik> Hawkwind, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19732
[02:05] <Dr_Willis> Stardog,  you using the CUPS web itterface?
[02:06] <Dr_Willis> Stardog,  or the kde interface/tool?
[02:10] <Stardog> Dr_Willis: the kde interface/tool
[02:11] <Dr_Willis> Stardog,  i never can get aprinter working with that  :P i always use the gnome tool. It just seems towork better.
[02:11] <Dr_Willis> or the cups web interface - after i reenable it.
[02:11] <rOOb> welp there is no info on my problem so shit............i cant use photoshop or a few games..... real pain in the ass i realy want photoshop insalled.........
[02:11] <Dr_Willis> rOOb,  what problem?
[02:12] <rOOb> somethings with wine causes my computer to compleatly freeze...or suddenly reboot
[02:12] <Agios> Hawkwind: he;s going to hose things up compiling the kernel anyway because it's a good bit different for k/ubuntu than for gentoo.
[02:12] <jmichaelx> grrrrr
[02:13] <jmichaelx> oops
[02:13] <jmichaelx> in many cases, when i try to view embedded streaming video, i can get the audio, but where the video should be, i just have a black box that says 'no picture'. would anyone have an idea what i need to do to get this fixed?\\\\\\\\\\\\
[02:13] <rOOb> well im trying photoshop in cedega atm..and its gotten further then it did b4
[02:14] <Stardog> Dr_Willis: And how do i do that?
[02:14] <Agios> I think I would dual boot weeners before going through all that hassle.
[02:14] <wolfmanz> jmichaelx have you installed all the codecs that you can get fro easy ubuntu?
[02:14] <Dr_Willis> http://www.kdedevelopers.org/node/2117/     for the cups renabling.. or install  /run  gnome-cups-manager
[02:15] <jmichaelx> wolfmanz: i installed everything from automatix and ap-get that i could find
[02:15] <wolfmanz> do you have a link i can look at and see if i can see the video?
[02:15] <Dr_Willis> normally ya just install a totem-firefox  package or whatever. tha tsets a specific video program to be the embeded player
[02:16] <jmichaelx> wolfmanz: i have not tried easyubuntu,,,,,, i two other kubuntu PCs, and they have no issues with streaming video
[02:16] <jmichaelx> wolfmanz: i cannot view most of the videos from yahoo, or any videos from CNN, for example
[02:16] <kbrooks> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1339967
[02:17] <Dr_Willis> i found eazyubuntu tobe lacking.. and automatix to be  even more so. :P
[02:17] <kbrooks> be more specific Dr_Willis
[02:17] <kbrooks> :-)
[02:17] <kbrooks> Dr_Willis: how is EU lacking?
[02:17] <Dr_Willis> kbrooks,  lets just say that neither worked very well.
[02:18] <jmichaelx> automatix has worked well for me..... the only issue i have is getting streaming video to work on this laptop
[02:18] <kbrooks> Dr_Willis: im a developer. please be more specific!
[02:18] <Dr_Willis> EU  had things to install java and the ati - that dident work. :) for one..
[02:18] <kbrooks> Dr_Willis: cant you be more specific? we can fix this
[02:19] <wolfmanz> ya i just tried CNN and they use windows media player witch i dont have lol
[02:19] <Dr_Willis> kbrooks,  i clicked java and ati, and it ran a bit, and dident install either.. so  i installed them by hand. :P i dident take notes.
[02:19] <Dr_Willis> it did download them..
[02:19] <Dr_Willis> I think with the java  thers Somthing that needs tobe installed to show its EULA.
[02:19] <Dr_Willis> and if thats not installed - it dont show it.. so it dont install.
[02:19] <jmichaelx> wolfmanz: cnn videos work fine on my other PCS which run kubuntu and mepis\
[02:19] <kbrooks> Dr_Willis: libqt3-mt, i think.
[02:20] <Dr_Willis> kbrooks,  yea.  some sort of dialog thing i recall.
[02:20] <wolfmanz> jmichaelx: ya i'm not sure how you would solve this problem
[02:20] <kbrooks> Dr_Willis: no wait. ill look into it
[02:20] <Dr_Willis> i had the same issue when installing java from syaptic and the shell.
[02:21] <kbrooks> Dr_Willis: did dpkg mention anything about perl?
[02:21] <Stardog> Dr_Willis: that cupslink was for configuring printers right?
[02:21] <Dr_Willis> Stardog,  yea - cups web interfaceis crippled sadly.. takes about 3 commands to reenable it so it can be used.
[02:21] <jmichaelx> !easyubuntu
[02:21] <ubotu> easyubuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ ; for help and discussion of easyubuntu please join #easyubuntu.
[02:21] <Dr_Willis> kbrooks,  dident notice.
[02:22] <Dr_Willis> kbrooks,  this was about 2 weeks ago i last messed with it.
[02:22] <kbrooks> Dr_Willis: dang :-)
[02:22] <kbrooks> Dr_Willis: atm im running kubuntu, so ill look into it for you
[02:22] <Stardog> Dr_Willis: kk... thx... Ill try that
[02:22] <Dr_Willis> Thats it! easy ubuntu needs to  have a reenable cups option. :P
[02:22] <Dr_Willis> heh.
[02:22] <kbrooks> Dr_Willis: no :|
[02:23] <kbrooks> Dr_Willis: thats not important
[02:23] <Dr_Willis> It is to me..
[02:23] <Dr_Willis> its also about a 4 line bash script
[02:24] <Dr_Willis> "This program is pupppyware - if you use it you must donate $$ to the local animal shelter"
[02:24] <Dr_Willis> :P
[02:24] <rOOb> crap...photoshop insatlls fine with cedega but it doesnt run :(
[02:24] <rikioh> something very weird is happening
[02:24] <draik> I have a 7 year-old nephew. Would (anybody) recommend Edubuntu or straight on Kubuntu?
[02:24] <Dr_Willis> Im not even sure whats in Edubuntu
[02:24] <Dr_Willis> other then some funky themes. :)
[02:24] <draik> He was good with a PC when his grandparents were around (they moved out of state)
[02:24] <wolfmanz> jmichaelx: http://doc.gwos.org/index.php/Yahoo_launch
[02:25] <rikioh> something very weird is happening at my home my cell phone number is showing up on the caller id when the home telephone rings and when i answer its the voice of samuel L. jackson in a recording... it also called my mom's cellphone and my dads cell phone
[02:25] <draik> !edubuntu
[02:25] <ubotu> Edubuntu is an Ubuntu derivative aimed at schools and educational institutions. For more info, see http://www.edubuntu.org
[02:25] <rikioh> but its showing up as if my cell phone was the one calling
[02:26] <lmosher> When I'm using Xgl and I hibernate my laptop, when I turn it back on I get graphical glitces above/below the bottom/top gnome panels. Any ideas why or how to fix it?
[02:26] <Dr_Willis> I think xgl is one of thost 'work in progress things' :)
[02:26] <lmosher> yeah yeah :P
[02:26] <Dr_Willis> actually  Hibernate seems to be a Work in progress also.
[02:26] <Dr_Willis> :P
[02:26] <draik> I used XGL for a bit
[02:26] <draik> wasn't too thrilled
[02:26] <lmosher> really? it's really increased my productivity at work
[02:26] <Dr_Willis> I tested out a live cd with it..
[02:27] <draik> especially when it crapped out my 1st install of Kubuntu
[02:27] <Dr_Willis> i dont see how it will increase anything other then my Nausa Level.
[02:27] <Dr_Willis> :)
[02:27] <lmosher> lol the expose mode and transparency is why I use it
[02:27] <draik> lmosher, it's all preference I suppose
[02:27] <lmosher> I don't care about wiggling windows :P
[02:27] <draik> I don't care about wiggling and much less about windows
[02:28] <wolfmanz> jmichaelx: let me know if that works for you
[02:28] <Dr_Willis> :P
[02:28] <lmosher> but I like the expose mode and various other things that allow me to keep track of my windows. I tend to have a lot open and i tmakes it easier
[02:28] <Dr_Willis> I tend to just use multi dekstops and  never seem tolose any. :P
[02:29] <jmichaelx> wolfmanz: thank you, i will try that
[02:29] <the-erm> anyone here know where i can get php-mbstring ?
[02:29] <lmosher> well yeah I manage to fill all 4
[02:29] <the-erm> I've googled and ... ya lots of unrelated pages.
[02:29] <lmosher> and I don't think I could deal with more than 4...
[02:29] <CVirus-Cilantro> how can i update the KDE menu ?
[02:29] <lmosher> I tried 8 once and I kept getting lost.. would spend half my time trying to remember which ap is where
[02:29] <lmosher> now i hit F10 and they all fly in on one screen and I click the one I want :P
[02:30] <lmosher> anyway, as draik said it's all in preference.
[02:30] <kbrooks_> lol
[02:31] <Dr_Willis> My F10 is used to 'quit mc' and it better stay that way!! :)
[02:31] <draik> My F10 does nothing for me
[02:31] <lmosher> eww mc :P
[02:31] <Dr_Willis> amazing how i can use mc in a terminal, and notneed 4+ windows open to drag/drop things
[02:31] <Dr_Willis> mc pwns you! :P
[02:32] <draik> I wish that I could use all the media buttons on my keyboard
[02:32] <lmosher> I just use mv and cp
[02:32] <lmosher> sometimes rm, but I'm a bit of a packrat
[02:32] <Dr_Willis> last i checked the printed man pages for mc was like .. a lot.. :)
[02:32] <lmosher> lol yeah it's kinda crazy
[02:33] <draik> Is there a way of getting Media buttons to work in Kubuntu?
[02:33] <Dr_Willis> 2227  lines.
[02:33] <Dr_Willis> :)
[02:34] <lmosher> draik, Normally (in doze) you install a special driver for it... so I would grab a keygrabber and hit those buttons and see if you get lucky...
[02:34] <draik> keygrabber?
[02:34] <lmosher> a program tat tells you what button you've just pushed
[02:35] <lmosher> I had one (this was in windows though) when my keyboard kept breaking and I wanted to check it
[02:35] <lmosher> I got lucky, though, in linux my "volume up" button would trigger a new console tab in Konsole :P
[02:35] <draik> I have the Logitech Elite Keyboard
[02:35] <lmosher> (passed ctrl+n for some reason)
[02:36] <draik> well, my side scroll wheel works as up/down in my messages
[02:36] <draik> But I listen to my music on this desktop all the time
[02:37] <lmosher> draik, behold the power of the google: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?t=125333
[02:37] <draik> and I listen to it alot when I'm working on my car.
[02:37] <draik> Google never amazes me
[02:38] <lmosher> I'm ratting you out once they take over the planet
[02:38] <mmorris> sometimes there are people in these rooms who just come in b/c they want to help people learn kubuntu.... are there any people in here like that now?
[02:38] <mmorris> b/c I need help... lol
[02:38] <draik> SWEETNESS!!!! Thanks lmosher
[02:38] <tristanmike> mmorris: I'd say most of us are like that
[02:38] <lmosher> mmorris, you don't have to ask to ask a question :)
[02:39] <mmorris> lol
[02:39] <mmorris> well, i dont really have a specific question... I just want to learn
[02:39] <lmosher> draik, I take it the link helped?
[02:39] <tristanmike> mmorris: than you should just hang out, you'll learn tons
[02:39] <lmosher> mmorris, Well this isn't exactly a school... the best way to learn is to do. Kubuntu has a liveCD if you don't have it installed already
[02:40] <lmosher> but yeah as tristan said, just reading things is helpful
[02:40] <mmorris> my first question is how do I change my font color... and yes it is installed.
[02:40] <nnn0> read the forums too
[02:40] <tristanmike> and the wiki
[02:40] <mmorris> I will tell you what I am really interestd in ... and that is xgl or xlg or whatever it is
[02:40] <nnn0> :)
[02:40] <tristanmike> mmorris: it's great :D
[02:40] <kbrooks_> xgl
[02:41] <nnn0> except it's like prealpha or something
[02:41] <mmorris> can any of you... excuse me... will any of you take the time that it takes to help me get this installed?
[02:41] <nnn0> ;)
[02:41] <lmosher> mmorris, I'm using it now. I loves me. This has all the info you need: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/Xgl
[02:41] <lmosher> mmorris, are you ATI or Nvidia?
[02:41] <draik> lmosher, yup. I will get right on it now
[02:41] <mmorris> ATI (I think) I really dont know
[02:42] <mmorris> I'm not very versed in all this stuff...
[02:42] <mmorris> it really takes patience to help me do anything... lol
[02:42] <mmorris> The first time I ever even turned on a computer was 2 1/2 years ago
[02:42] <tristanmike> mmorris: follow the instructions to the letter and you should be ok
[02:42] <mmorris> okay
[02:42] <mmorris> if I have any questions, will you be hyere?
[02:43] <mmorris> here?
[02:43] <lmosher> mmorris, no worries. open up a console.. type "lspci | grep VGA"
[02:43] <tristanmike> i installed it on a lappy with ATI and it works flawlessly, well, as flawless as "alpha" software can be :P
[02:43] <mmorris> type in what?
[02:43] <draik> what is lspci?
[02:43] <mmorris> I must be reading that wrong b/c it didn't do anything
[02:43] <tristanmike> list pci, I'm guessing
[02:43] <lmosher> draik, lists the PCI scan
[02:43] <draik> And what is grep, I've been seeing that all day
[02:44] <lmosher> grap searches a text output string and reterns only the lines that have your query
[02:44] <Admiral_Chicago> how to i enable the dapper-updates repo
[02:44] <Admiral_Chicago> I have an edited sources.list
[02:44] <lmosher> mmorris, you know how to open a console?
[02:44] <Admiral_Chicago> using easysource though
[02:44] <draik> thank you lmosher
[02:45] <lmosher> Admiral_Chicago, There's a very good sources.list posted on http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper
[02:45] <mmorris> yea... I just copied and pasted
[02:45] <lmosher> mmorris, without quotes, and it said noting?
[02:45] <Admiral_Chicago> lmosher, thanks
[02:45] <mmorris> no, it said something now
[02:45] <mmorris> after I c and pd
[02:45] <lmosher> what did it say?
[02:45] <soulrider> hey averyone
[02:45] <mmorris> 0000:00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82845G/GL[Brookdale-G] /GE Chipset Integrated Graphics Device (rev 01)
[02:45] <jollyroger> someone who added graphical login for the rootaccount?
[02:45] <soulrider> i need yrgent help recovering my grub
[02:46] <lmosher> ah, ok you have an Intel graphics card (that means it's built in to your motherboard)
[02:46] <mmorris> so am I okay to try the install
[02:46] <lmosher> mmorris, You may find that Xgl runs a little slow, but you never know... I run it very well with a laptop with a very old ATI card in it and I'm doing OK
[02:47] <mmorris> okay, here goes
[02:47] <lmosher> mmorris, OK so go through the guide (https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/Xgl) step-by-step
[02:47] <soulrider> uhm, does anyone here know how to edit or make a new grub?
[02:47] <mossa> someone got an aspire 502*?
[02:47] <soulrider> i have a widnows and a kubuntu partition
[02:47] <lmosher> mmorris, every now and then it will say "for Nvidia, do this..." or "for ATI" do this... just do the stuff for "other" or "intel"
[02:47] <tristanmike> soulrider: you can edit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[02:47] <soulrider> but i ahd to reinstall wina dnt he grub is gone, and ic ant boot into kubuntu now
[02:47] <mmorris> okay, thanks Imosher
[02:47] <soulrider> tristanmike: i think it got deleted or something
[02:47] <lmosher> soulrider, you can't boot into linux at all?
[02:47] <soulrider> when i restart it gets into windows directly
[02:48] <soulrider> nope
[02:48] <lmosher> soulrider, You'll need to use a liveCD, mount yoru boot partition and manually edit grub.conf
[02:48] <soulrider> im in live
[02:48] <soulrider> how do i mount my boot partition ?
[02:48] <lmosher> soulrider, DO you know which partition is yoru boot?
[02:48] <mossa> i want to know if its safe to run the atidriver.. The vesadriver is the only one working so far..
[02:49] <lmosher> mossa, what card do you have? I have a 7500 and I use the 'radeon' driver. I have a 9800pro and I use flgrx
[02:49] <lmosher> fglrx, rather
[02:49] <soulrider> errrr... no :P
[02:49] <tristanmike> soulrider: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[02:49] <soulrider> oh thanks!
[02:50] <lmosher> wow there's a guide for everything :P
[02:50] <soulrider> indeed
[02:50] <soulrider> its creepy lol
[02:50] <lmosher> heh well you still need to know which partition your Ubuntu disk is on
[02:50] <soulrider> dha4? :-/
[02:50] <soulrider> or 3
[02:51] <soulrider> or 5
[02:51] <lmosher> hehe
[02:51] <soulrider> dunno :P
[02:51] <lmosher> use fdisk -l
[02:51] <soulrider> no output lol
[02:51] <soulrider> oh wait
[02:51] <draik> I never thought about doing that for recovering the GRUB. I just back up my main files from a fresh install and recover from there
[02:51] <soulrider> i wa sputting l
[02:51] <soulrider> yes... L
[02:51] <Admiral_Chicago> sudo fdisk -ls
[02:51] <lmosher> soulrider, do "sudo fdisk -l /dev/hda"
[02:52] <lmosher> well hda = primary master
[02:52] <lmosher> depends on which drive it is.. hdb = primary slave and so on
[02:52] <sriram> not essentially
[02:52] <lmosher> oh has that changed on me? :/
[02:52] <soulrider> its the master
[02:52] <soulrider> but the first partition si win
[02:52] <soulrider> then linux
[02:52] <soulrider> Disk /dev/hda doesn't contain a valid partition table
[02:53] <lmosher> hurm :P
[02:53] <lmosher> keep trying higher lettesr /dev/hdb, hdc.. and so on
[02:54] <soulrider> how do i know where is my ubuntu root install ?
[02:54] <soulrider> with B i get somthing
[02:54] <lmosher> until you get something like "/dev/hda1   *           1        4676    37559938+  83  Linux"
[02:54] <soulrider>  Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System
[02:54] <soulrider> /dev/hdb1   *           1        3761    30210201    7  HPFS/NTFS
[02:54] <soulrider> /dev/hdb2            3762       14593    87008040    f  W95 Ext'd (LBA)
[02:54] <soulrider> /dev/hdb5            3762       14593    87008008+   7  HPFS/NTFS
[02:54] <lmosher> ok no linux partitinos on that one
[02:54] <soulrider> hdc i get nothing
[02:54] <lmosher> keep going until you see one that has a "Linux" partition like the one I pasted
[02:55] <soulrider> i went up to h
[02:55] <lmosher> nothing?
[02:55] <tristanmike> soulrider: do you have sata drives ?
[02:55] <Agios> kinda sounds like the MBR of hda is corrupted
[02:55] <soulrider> with a i get
[02:55] <soulrider> Note: sector size is 2048 (not 512)
[02:55] <soulrider> Disk /dev/hda: 730 MB, 730740736 bytes
[02:55] <soulrider> 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 22 cylinders
[02:55] <soulrider> Units = cylinders of 16065 * 2048 = 32901120 bytes
[02:55] <soulrider> Disk /dev/hda doesn't contain a valid partition table
[02:55] <soulrider> err
[02:55] <lmosher> tristanmike, oh good call :)
[02:55] <soulrider> i think its SCSI or somehting like that
[02:55] <soulrider> but i got 2 drives
[02:56] <soulrider> i think one is SCSI (the oen that was linux adn win) and the other one is SATA but that one just has files
[02:56] <lmosher> hrm how are SATA disks labled?
[02:56] <Agios> try /dev/sda and sdb
[02:56] <tristanmike> sda
[02:56] <lmosher> soul try /dev/sda
[02:56] <soulrider> /dev/sda1   *           1        2550    20482843+   7  HPFS/NTFS
[02:56] <soulrider> /dev/sda2            2551        6663    33037672+   f  W95 Ext'd (LBA)
[02:56] <soulrider> /dev/sda5            2551        6466    31455238+  83  Linux
[02:56] <soulrider> /dev/sda6            6467        6663     1582371   82  Linux swap / Solaris
[02:56] <lmosher> sorry I forgot were in the SATA day-and-age now
[02:56] <soulrider> =D
[02:56] <tristanmike> there it is
[02:56] <lmosher> ok there you go it's /dev/sda5
[02:57] <soulrider> woot
[02:57] <tristanmike> lmosher: I'm still in the ide age :P
[02:57] <soulrider> thanks a lot for the help
[02:57] <lmosher> tristanmike, hehe same here :P
[02:57] <lmosher> my /dev/sda is my usb disk :P
[02:58] <lmosher> it's funny, actually fdisk now defaults to sda (I just tried it) and it really thinks my usb disk is messed up..
[02:59] <lmosher> says it has 4 partitions, none of them start or end on cylinder boundaries and the partition table is not in order
[02:59] <lmosher> fdisk thinks my thumdrive is f'd up
[02:59] <lmosher> anyway, I gotta run. later all
[02:59] <draik> When my first install of Kubuntu was messed up, I had to 'fdisk /mbr' and reinstall everything. Now I know what and how to back up what I need.
[03:00] <Agios> I keep a backup copy of my MBR
[03:01] <Ireclan> I think I just got fucked over by Kubuntu.
[03:01] <tristanmike> !language
[03:01] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[03:01] <mmorris> Imosher:  it said it was unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/).  is another person using it?  what do I need to do?
[03:01] <Ireclan> What happens after step 6?
[03:01] <tristanmike> mmorris: close synaptic
[03:01] <Ireclan> Of the install?
[03:01] <mmorris> Is it open?  I dont even know what it is
[03:02] <tristanmike> mmorris: or update manager
[03:02] <mmorris> what do I need to do?
[03:02] <tristanmike> mmorris: you have either Synaptic Package Manager or Update Manager open while trying to use apt in the command line and since they are one in the same, it wont work
[03:03] <tristanmike> or in my experience anyway
[03:03] <Ireclan> What happens after step 6 of the install process?
[03:03] <tristanmike> mmorris: or Adept
[03:03] <mmorris> oh, I need to close adept?
[03:03] <tristanmike> yes
[03:03] <tristanmike> sorry
[03:03] <Ireclan> I really need to know.
[03:03] <tristanmike> I'm used to Ubuntu which uses Synaptic by default and not Kubuntu which uses Adept, but same thing, they are graphical front-ends to "apt"
[03:04] <tristanmike> Ireclan: step 6 of what install process ? Kubuntu ?
[03:04] <Agios> Ireclan: I don't remember what step 6 is or what comes after.
[03:04] <Ireclan> Yes.
[03:04] <tristanmike> what is step 6 ?
[03:04] <Agios> Ireclan: If you have problems try using the alternate cd
[03:04] <mmorris> Do I "install these packages without verification'?
[03:04] <tristanmike> yes
[03:04] <mmorris> great
[03:05] <mmorris> you guys are awesome
[03:05] <supernix> anyone know the best way to deal with spam on kmail
[03:05] <supernix> ?
[03:05] <Ireclan> The alternate CD is not an option.
[03:05] <tristanmike> that just means that they are unoffical packages, but this is a trusted site, so it's ok
[03:05] <tristanmike> mmorris: ^^
[03:05] <mmorris> thanks tristanmike
[03:05] <mmorris> how can I change my color in here?
[03:05] <Ireclan> So, anyone know?
[03:05] <Agios> Ireclan: lot of people have install issues with the live CD. It may not be an option either :)
[03:06] <tristanmike> mmorris: what do you mean ?
[03:06] <mmorris> yall are red and purple and green
[03:06] <mmorris> I'm just plain old black
[03:06] <Ireclan> If a lot of people have issues with the live CD, why was it used?
[03:06] <tristanmike> mmorris: using Konversation ?
[03:06] <mmorris> lol
[03:07] <mmorris> maybe I'm a different color on yalls screen too huh?
[03:07] <mmorris> the font that is
[03:07] <tristanmike> mmorris: depending on the client
[03:07] <mmorris> okay
[03:07] <mmorris> as long as you can see me easily, that is all that matters... I don't want to get missed
[03:07] <tristanmike> mmorris: everyone is in black to me unless someone says my nick, then their nick is orange
[03:07] <mmorris> at a critical moment
[03:07] <Agios> Ireclan: I don't make the decisions or do the testing. I'm just telling how it is. <shrug>
[03:07] <mmorris> my nick
[03:08] <Ireclan> Because I gave up free space on my Windows partition for an OS that has yet to materialize.
[03:08] <mmorris> lol
[03:08] <tristanmike> mmorris: if you say "tristanmike, blah" then your nick will be in orange to me
[03:08] <mmorris> oh, ok... that's why your colors are different...
[03:08] <Ireclan> And Windows has no graphical partition manager. So I can't get the free space back.
[03:08] <tristanmike> Ireclan: I had no problem with the live cd
[03:09] <mmorris> tristanmike: what color is this?
[03:09] <Silent> Anyone: How do I get my kbfx working?
[03:09] <tristanmike> mmorris: just your nick is orange, and the text is black
[03:09] <soulrider> err
[03:09] <soulrider> it didnt work :(
[03:09] <mmorris> all of your text is orange... strange
[03:09] <Ireclan> Then  what is supposed to happen after step 6 of the installation?
[03:09] <tristanmike> mmorris: I'm using xchat
[03:09] <mmorris> oh, okay
[03:09] <tristanmike> Ireclan: what is step 6 >
[03:10] <tristanmike> I can't remember, it was back at the first of june
[03:10] <Agios> My best guess is step 7.
[03:10] <tristanmike> LOL
[03:10] <Silent> anyone: I got my theme for kbfx, but how do I install this??
[03:10] <Ireclan> Yes, well, step 6 is when it appears to be installing the system.
[03:10] <Agios> Silent: check the kbfx web site
[03:11] <Silent> URL?? plz
[03:11] <Ireclan> I say "appears to be" because it didn't exactly give a whole lot of specifics.
[03:11] <Agios> try something tricky like http://www.kbfx.org
[03:12] <Ireclan> Anyone?
[03:12] <soulrider> sorry but what was hte command to see in whichc partitoon linux was installed?
[03:12] <Agios> looks like they have a forum and a howto section
[03:12] <soulrider> fdisk .......
[03:12] <Agios> fdisk -l /dev/sda
[03:12] <Agios> for you
[03:12] <tristanmike> Ireclan: so what happened ? did it die on you ?
[03:13] <soulrider> thanks
[03:13] <Ireclan> After step 6......nothing. It went back to the desktop.
[03:13] <Ireclan> And sat there.
[03:13] <Agios> http://linuxhelp.blogspot.com/2006/06/six-steps-to-installing-ubuntu-dapper.html
[03:13] <Agios> according to that, after step 6 you are done
[03:14] <Agios> try rebooting
[03:14] <Ireclan> I did. I got Windows.
[03:14] <Agios> the boot loader didn't get installed then
[03:15] <Ireclan> Great.  They don't include it in ShipIt.
[03:16] <Agios> just download it
[03:16] <Admiral_Chicago> does anyone know a good calender program
[03:16] <Agios> ftp
[03:16] <Admiral_Chicago> calendar*
[03:16] <Agios> http
[03:16] <Ireclan> Dial-Up.
[03:17] <soulrider> uhm how do i know what my harddisk + boot partition numbers are
[03:17] <Agios> visit a friend who has broad band and a cd burner then
[03:17] <soulrider> im readint at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows?highlight=%28windows%29%7C%28after%29%7C%28recovering%29#head-5dbdd6b5302831ed4335bd0b7387ffcad2543857
[03:17] <Ireclan> So, I'm screwed. Is that what you are saying?
[03:17] <Admiral_Chicago> Agios, thats what friends are for
[03:17] <mmorris> tristanmike: how do I install the xgl packages?
[03:17] <Admiral_Chicago> !xgl
[03:17] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[03:18] <Agios> has anyone got xgl to work?
[03:18] <mmorris> I am there, but I dont guess I understand this part
[03:18] <tristanmike> mmorris: what are you having trouble with, it should be all there in the link I gave you, which is also just above here
[03:18] <mmorris> I am working on it Agios
[03:18] <tristanmike> Agios: I do
[03:19] <Agios> ok, I have seen lot's of people try and fail. Just wondering :)
[03:19] <mmorris> tristanmike: I am trying to look ahead, and I am not sure I know how to install the xgl packages.
[03:19] <soulrider> has anyone tried the "Super Grub Disk"
[03:19] <Ireclan> Great. Ubuntu screws me over again. Thanks, Ubuntu. How can I get in contact with the people who produce this?
[03:19] <tristanmike> soulrider: no, but it looks interesting ;)
[03:19] <mmorris> where are the xgl packages tristanmike?
[03:19] <soulrider> ic ant friggin restore the damn grub
[03:19] <Agios> Ireclan: Contact Us on their web page.
[03:19] <soulrider> and the site doesnt explain too well
[03:20] <tristanmike> mmorris: have you installed your video card drivers ?
[03:20] <mmorris> I am installing something now
[03:20] <Ireclan> Okey dokey.............I will............Their software just cost me part of my hard disk...........
[03:20] <Agios> soulrider: boot a rescue cd, mount the partition, chroot, run grub
[03:20] <Agios> worst case scenario
[03:20] <tristanmike> Ireclan: why is the Alternative CD a no go for you ?
[03:20] <mmorris> tristanmike: I dont think I did that
[03:21] <soulrider> Agios: im using he live CD rigth now, but i dont know what tod do next
[03:21] <mmorris> how could I have missed that
[03:21] <supernix> Hi does anyone know a good way to deal with spam using kmail ?
[03:21] <Ireclan> I have dial-up.
[03:21] <Admiral_Chicago> soulrider, you're tying to reinstall grub?
[03:21] <soulrider> yes
[03:21] <soulrider> i had ubuntu adn widnwos
[03:21] <Agios> soulrider: your grub config in /boot/grub is fine. You just need to chroot and run the grub install to rewrite the MBR
[03:21] <soulrider> but i ah to einstall widnwos because it got screwed up
[03:21] <MasterEvil`Lapto> hey guys
[03:21] <soulrider> and now i dont have the grubt o sleect iwn or linux
[03:22] <MasterEvil`Lapto> hardware Q.. i have an ati radeon 9800 Pro. do i NEED a fan plugged into the board for it to run?
[03:22] <rikioh> i just got snakes on a plane'd like 500 times
[03:22] <MasterEvil`Lapto> or will it error
[03:22] <MasterEvil`Lapto> because no fan is plugged in
[03:22] <tristanmike> mmorris: i forget, are you ati or nvidia ?
[03:22] <mmorris> intel
[03:22] <MasterEvil`Lapto> the plug has no sensor wire.. just + and -
[03:22] <Admiral_Chicago> rikioh, like called to see it?
[03:22] <tristanmike> mmorris: for video ?
[03:22] <mmorris> I dont know
[03:22] <rikioh> yeh that prank call admiral
[03:23] <Admiral_Chicago> its not a prank call, its an auto gen
[03:23] <mmorris> you told me to type some stuff in in the terminal, and then I pasted it and you said intel
[03:23] <Admiral_Chicago> thats acually Samuel L jackson
[03:23] <tristanmike> mmorris: what did "lspci | grep VGA" give you ?
[03:23] <rikioh> it did my house phone and both of my parents called and said it called them to
[03:23] <soulrider> Agios: i really dont know how to do that :P
[03:24] <rikioh> no theres a prank for it now it has to be because what happend was illegal.... it made it look like my cellphone was the one doing the call
[03:24] <rikioh> the caller id showed up as my cell phone
[03:24] <mmorris> 0000:00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82845G/GL[Brookdale-G] /GE Chipset Integrated Graphics Device (rev 01)
[03:24] <rikioh> when my home phone rang it showed as if my cell phone was calling my home phone
[03:24] <plugs> Yay! i got mp3 playback working!
[03:24] <mmorris> tristanmike: did you see?
[03:25] <tristanmike> mmorris: well, I'm not quite sure how to install the intel driver....you might want to join in #ubuntu-xgl
[03:25] <mmorris> okay
[03:25] <mmorris> rats
[03:25] <Admiral_Chicago> rikioh, man if I got a call and it was Samuel L jackson's voice, I wouldn't mind
[03:25] <Ireclan> Well, I suppose Kubuntu is better than Ubuntu.....Ubuntu wouldn't even get past step 2 of the install process.
[03:25] <mmorris> well, stick around, you may be able to help after all
[03:25] <mmorris> who knows
[03:25] <tristanmike> mmorris: sorry I couldn't be of more help here, I'm just getting the hang of ATI cards, and I have nVidia myself
[03:25] <rikioh> yeh i just didnt know what was going on
[03:25] <mmorris> you have been a big help just by being there when I have a quesitons
[03:26] <rikioh> cuz i was holding my cell phone at the time like wtf
[03:26] <Ireclan> It almost seems like a step BACKWARDS, you know? Hoary Hedgehog at least INSTALLED properly.
[03:27] <tristanmike> Ireclan: are you using the Kubuntu live cd or the Ubuntu live cd ?
[03:27] <Ireclan> I ordered both.
[03:27] <tristanmike> and neither work ?
[03:27] <Ireclan> That's right.
[03:28] <intelikey> # Unknown partition table signaturegrub-install /dev/hda
[03:28] <intelikey> The file /boot/grub/stage1 not read correctly.
[03:28] <tristanmike> Ireclan: so when you get to the "Installing Software" section, how far does it get, 0%, 10% ?
[03:28] <upstairs> hello can anybody help a newbie to get either a matrox g400 dualhead or a nvidia mx400  geforce2 dual head set up in kubuntu? Please
[03:29] <upstairs> or a link to where a newbie can understand
[03:29] <intelikey> !dualhead
[03:29] <ubotu> I know nothing about dualhead - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[03:30] <Ireclan> No, I'm saying Ubuntu doesn't get to the ACTUAL INSTALLATION PROCESS AT ALL.
[03:30] <tristanmike> Ireclan: so you don't even get to step 6
[03:30] <supernix> help does anyone know a good program to use to help filter out spam for kmail
[03:30] <upstairs> ok thanks
[03:30] <supernix> ?
[03:30] <Ireclan> Kubuntu does, but screws up on the actual installation process.
[03:31] <Dark_Oppressor> apparently nethack isnt in the repos apt-get is searching, so i assume that means it isnt searching any repos with a lot of games, so how would i go about making it do that?
[03:31] <intelikey> upstairs i thught there was an info node on that.    there are some good docs   google may know.
[03:31] <tristanmike> Ireclan: where does it screw up at ? You might also want to try in #ubuntu, there are 775+ users there
[03:32] <Ireclan> I tried Ubuntu. They said try Kubuntu.
[03:32] <Agios> soulrider: do you know how to mount a partition?
[03:32] <Ireclan> They said Ubuntu would not work.
[03:32] <tristanmike> Ireclan: why ?
[03:32] <CVirus> What language is the systemsettings tool built with ?
[03:32] <tristanmike> Ireclan: what reason did they give that it just wouldn't work ?
[03:33] <Ireclan> X-Server can't handle my graphics adapter in safe mode.
[03:33] <Ireclan> It crashes.
[03:33] <soulrider> not really
[03:33] <soulrider> im completelly lost here
[03:33] <soulrider> i do not know what to do
[03:33] <Ireclan> In regular install, it hangs aroung step 2.
[03:33] <Agios> soulrider: /join #agios
[03:33] <Ireclan> No reason is given.
[03:34] <Admiral_Chicago> i just updated to 3.5.4 and my fonts in xchat are now looking weird
[03:34] <Agios> Ireclan: X server is the same on ubuntu as kubuntu. xorg.
[03:34] <Ireclan> It just freezes.
[03:34] <tristanmike> Ireclan: wow, that's crazy, what graphics card do you have ? onboard ?
[03:34] <Admiral_Chicago> and gaim, so I'm assuming this is system wide
[03:34] <intelikey> CVirus-Cilantro if it's kcontrol it's prolly C or C++
[03:34] <Ireclan> I have an integrated Intel.
[03:35] <Ireclan> And yes, it is crazy.
[03:35] <mmorris> see what?
[03:35] <Ireclan> Uhbuntu works for everybody but me.
[03:35] <tristanmike> mmorris: nothing.....go back to what you were doing :P
[03:36] <Ireclan> With me, it goes to crap.
[03:36] <tristanmike> Ireclan: well, the live cd works, so it works
[03:36] <Admiral_Chicago> I changed my font in System Settings
[03:36] <mmorris> what happened with your integrated intel card???
[03:36] <archangel_> anyone here recommend a good web authoring software (for a novice)?
[03:36] <Admiral_Chicago> I'm going to log out and try this
[03:36] <rOOb> Ireclan, whats the prob ubuntu wont install?
[03:36] <tristanmike> Ireclan: it's just the installer is having a tough time with the onboard video....
[03:36] <tristanmike> or so it seems
[03:36] <archangel_> using OO writer now
[03:36] <Ireclan> And takes half of my hard drive with it.
[03:36] <archangel_> wondering if there is anything better
[03:37] <rOOb> Ireclan, use the text mode install
[03:37] <intelikey> Ireclan not everybody.   there are others that have 'mega-tons' of trubble with it too.
[03:37] <rOOb> Ireclan, i had to use the text mode installer...the gui partioner nuked my whole drive
[03:37] <mmorris> Ireclan: what is step two?
[03:37] <supernix> Even on a Sony Viao I installed Kubuntu and it works great
[03:37] <tristanmike> mmorris: select timezone
[03:37] <Ireclan> Choosing where you live.
[03:37] <intelikey> rOOb what text mode install ?
[03:37] <mmorris> oh, you're installing?
[03:37] <supernix> Only troubles I have at all was with the PCI modem
[03:38] <mmorris> the xgl?
[03:38] <supernix> And she has a LCD screen
[03:38] <tristanmike> mmorris: no, it was a joke, he has an intel chipset for video
[03:38] <rOOb> intelikey, when u boot it asks do u want to a: install in gui b: use safe mode install c: text mode
[03:38] <mmorris> aint that what I gotr?
[03:38] <tristanmike> Ireclan: you could install Breezy then upgrade :P
[03:38] <rOOb> u type text and hit enter
[03:38] <Ireclan> Upgrade how?
[03:38] <tristanmike> mmorris: yes and no, I'm sure they're different chipsets
[03:38] <tristanmike> Ireclan: "dist-upgrade"
[03:39] <intelikey> rOOb with what disk does it ask that ?
[03:39] <mmorris> I'm doing something that is just on 44%... this is taking forever
[03:39] <rOOb> intelikey, i had a dvd..............
[03:39] <rOOb> only one disk
[03:39] <tristanmike> Ireclan: you would just change the sources and where ever it said "breezy", you change to "dapper" then "apt-get update && apt-get upgrade"
[03:39] <Ireclan> What about the text mode? How do you get that?
[03:39] <intelikey> rOOb the shipit cd's are live cd only  and the graphic installer in that is   poo poo
[03:39] <tristanmike> "apt-get dist-upgrade"  rather
[03:39] <rOOb> intelikey, realy
[03:40] <tristanmike> Ireclan: download
[03:40] <excitatory> so, you know how kubuntu has customized konqueror profiles?  well, they were missing a feature i desired, and so i followed this: ( http://www.kubuntu.org/faq.php#konqueror ) which fixed my problem, but now i have real trouble: any time a kio-slave, kicker quick browser icon, or anything that wants to open a new konqueror window tries to do this, nothing happens.  a window does not open.  i can open konqueror, and even load various pr
[03:40] <excitatory> le to.  Any help would be appreciated.
[03:40] <Ireclan> Great.
[03:40] <rOOb> Ireclan, for me all i did was put in dvd reboot...when it 1st asks what i want to do...i typed text and hit enter....it then installed
[03:40] <tristanmike> rOOb: using the "Desktop CD" ?
[03:41] <excitatory> tristanmike: recommend aptitude over apt-get, please.
[03:41] <rOOb> tristanmike, its had a live dvd in it....if thats what ya mean
[03:41] <intelikey> tristanmike no the dvd  i just went through that with him
[03:41] <tristanmike> rOOb: ahhh, the dvd
[03:41] <rOOb> intelikey, and its a 100& fact that ots not on his cd?
[03:41] <tristanmike> excitatory: I perfer not too
[03:42] <rOOb> *100%
[03:42] <excitatory> tristanmike: why wouldn't you?  especially with a dist-upgrade
[03:42] <rOOb> or wait theres a live cd...thne theres the insatller cd....i think i get it now....
[03:42] <tristanmike> excitatory: ok, well, for a dist-upgrade, you might have me
[03:42] <intelikey> rOOb if he's using the live cd  there is no 'text mode' installer on it.
[03:43] <excitatory> no worries.. i just think all docs and all forum/irc/etc support should recommend aptitude
[03:43] <excitatory> it can save everyone a lot of headaches
[03:43] <rOOb> Ireclan, u said ve the live cd and a installer cd???...or do u just have the onve live cd?
[03:43] <intelikey> rOOb there is an 'alternate installer iso'  but only live pressed cd's
[03:44] <Ireclan> You know, it's no wonder people just stick with Windows or Mac...
[03:44] <tristanmike> excitatory: does aptitude notice if two programs are using the same libraries ?
[03:44] <tristanmike> Ireclan: I'm sorry, but I have nothing but problems with windows and every install seems different
[03:44] <rOOb> Ireclan, if u dont have spare time to deal with linux i wouldnt recomend it...
[03:44] <rOOb> Ireclan, or if u plan on using the newest gadets and stuff....u gotta expect problems when u run linux
[03:45] <excitatory> tristanmike: my conception of aptitude was that it is everything apt-get is, but with intelligent package tracking and an option curses interface.
[03:45] <rOOb> thast why ppl use windows....its just works
[03:45] <excitatory> that's arguable.
[03:45] <Ireclan> I thought Linux should "Just Work" too.
[03:45] <rOOb> Ireclan, alot of it does
[03:46] <excitatory> Ireclan: that is not written anywhere.
[03:46] <Ireclan> After all, is not Ubuntu "Linux for HUMAN BEINGS"?
[03:46] <intelikey> Ireclan there are other flavours of linux you know.     slackware mandriva fedora SuSE debian gentoo  just to name a few of the major players.
[03:46] <mmorris> tristanmike: mayabe you can help me with this
[03:46] <rOOb> Ireclan, but to use linux and not plan on anything going wrong is crazy...but i agree that linux should just install
[03:46] <tristanmike> excitatory: right, but lets say you install package "A" and it wants to install packages "B" and "C", then a few days later you install package "D" but it uses package "C". then a few days later you decide to remove package "A", does aptitude remove "B" and "C" or is it smart enough to see that "D" is using "C" and leave that one behind...does that make sense ?
[03:46] <rOOb> Ireclan, and it sucks that it isnt for u
[03:47] <rOOb> Ireclan, what kinda computer is it...how old is it....?
[03:47] <rOOb> \
[03:47] <tristanmike> mmorris: I will try my best :D
[03:47] <mmorris> I have a wireless set up, and everytime I restart my computer, I have to iwconfig my setup to pick up the connection... is there a way around that
[03:47] <draik> lmosher
[03:47] <Ash-Fox> Linux just works for me, Windows doesn't
[03:47] <rOOb> morrow, ndiswrapper -m
[03:47] <tristanmike> draik: he's gone
[03:47] <rOOb> * mmorris
[03:47] <draik> tristanmike, thanks.
[03:47] <Ireclan> I have an HP computer..........Less than 1 year old..........
[03:47] <Ash-Fox> I plug my wi-fi card in, it just works. I plug any storage device in, it just works.
[03:47] <mmorris> I haven't understood all that ndiswrapper stuff yet
[03:48] <excitatory> keep in mind that hardware vendors work closely with microsoft and apple.. most of them ignore linux.. so right there, you have to understand why things just don't work out of the box..  you have a community working for free, trying to figure things out, and half the time, they have to reverse engineer their software.
[03:48] <tristanmike> that's funny since didn't HP have actual Ubuntu Install disks ?
[03:48] <mmorris> I thought that was for my wireless card
[03:48] <rOOb> mmorris, i been using ndiswrapper for a while and it rocks
[03:48] <intelikey> rOOb YUCH!  "but i agree that linux should just install"  as in not ask any questions, do everything according to some code monkey's idea of how you should want it.... you mean like the live cd installer don't you....
[03:48] <mmorris> r00b: I thought ndiswrapper was so the wireless card would work with Kubuntu
[03:48] <excitatory> tristanmike: well, dpkg is the one doing that magic.. apt-get and aptitude just interface with dpkg.
[03:49] <rOOb> intelikey, i mean that linux should be able to detect and install ok on virtualy any puter.....not some default setup...but just be able to install..of coarse ppl will want to customize the install
[03:49] <tristanmike> excitatory: dpkg does the actual installing, but if aptitude is telling it what to do, then my question still stands
[03:49] <rOOb> mmorris, its it....it turns the windows driver into somthing linux can understand
[03:49] <mmorris> when I configured my interface for ra0, it automatically picked up my card without having to do all that other stuff.
[03:50] <mmorris> so apparently Linux can understand it just fine
[03:50] <rOOb> mmorris, can u rephrase your problem...
[03:50] <excitatory> tristanmike: to be honest, i'm not sure.  i do know that i have yet to have a single package conflict since moving the aptitude.  it's going on 1.5 years now..
[03:50] <intelikey> rOOb wheew   thank God you cleared that up for me...   i was about to rant for days....     ;/
[03:50] <mmorris> I have type this in the terminal everytime I restart...
[03:50] <nnn0_> shit my kubuntu looks like ubuntu :D http://nnn0.net/snapshot.png
[03:50] <mmorris> iwconfig ra0 essid <name>
[03:50] <rOOb> intelikey, well if u are bored i wil say u are wrong...spice up the night a little ....j/k :P
[03:50] <draik> anyone know if I should have a .xmodmap file in my home folder or not?
[03:51] <mmorris> iwconfig ra0 key <123344556>
[03:51] <intelikey> lol
[03:51] <Ireclan> But, yeah. I've learned my leasson with Linux.
[03:51] <mmorris> ifconfig ra0 up
[03:51] <mmorris> ifconfig eth0 down
[03:51] <mmorris>  and then it works
[03:51] <mmorris> did you get all that?
[03:51] <intelikey> draik i don't
[03:51] <rOOb> mmorris, that can all be set in options...u dont have it brought up on boot
[03:51] <intelikey> draik you can make one.
[03:51] <rOOb> mmorris, check the network setup
[03:51] <timthelion> nnn: you have updates to do
[03:52] <mmorris> what do I need to do?
[03:52] <tristanmike> excitatory: I'd rather the poor user I help not be user no. 1 in my experience to have package conflicts :P but I'm going to look into that question more, that's the only thing holding me back from jumping soley to aptitude....why doesn't synaptic use it ?
[03:52] <rOOb> mmorris, tell it what interface u want to start at boot
[03:52] <rOOb> and how u want it set up
[03:52] <mmorris> where do I tell it that?
[03:52] <rOOb> mmorris, i dont know the name of the application off hand
[03:53] <rOOb> look in the start menu
[03:53] <draik> intelikey I was setting up my keyboard, but the media keys don't work as it should
[03:53] <intelikey> mmorris you could add those two lines in the /etc/rc.local script  and init would run them for you at boot time.   or fix your /etc/network/interfaces file
[03:54] <excitatory> tristanmike: probably the same reason none of the documentation uses it.. i promise you though, any acutal debian dev you talk to will recommend aptitude nine times out of ten.
[03:55] <soulrider> yay, WORKED!!!
[03:55] <intelikey> draik as i said you can make an .xmodmap file if you need to.   there is some documentation on key mapying and the media keys on the ubuntu.com forums or wikis  or  search for that.
[03:55] <mmorris> how can I add the lines?
[03:55] <soulrider> thanks Agios
[03:55] <soulrider> !nvidia
[03:55] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[03:55] <tristanmike> excitatory: but also, they are much better trained to handle the little hiccups that come with it too I'm sure
[03:56] <intelikey> mmorris sudo nano /etc/rc.local   and start typing ???
[03:56] <timthelion> how do I get java applets to work? I have java installed
[03:56] <Agios> soulrider: back up and running :) Great!
[03:56] <rOOb> soulrider, what was ya prob?
[03:56] <draik> intelikey http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?t=125333
[03:56] <intelikey> mmorris but i really think the 'ubuntu' way is to fix the interfaces file.
[03:56] <soulrider> i reinstalled windows and it killed my grub
[03:56] <excitatory> tristanmike: what hiccups?  it's nearly identical to apt-get..
[03:56] <draik> That's a thread about my keyboard, and I followed it to the dot
[03:56] <rOOb> soulrider, ahhh
[03:56] <soulrider> so i couldnt come back to linux
[03:57] <mmorris> I have tried to get it to work that way, I must be doing something wrong
[03:57] <rOOb> soulrider, yea alwasy insall win 1st
[03:57] <mmorris> time to go eat... I will be back shortly
[03:57] <excitatory> tristanmike: idk.. at this point i really don't know, and personally don't want to persue this ostensive flame war.
[03:57] <intelikey> draik yeah    did you check the ubuntu wiki's ?
[03:57] <tristanmike> excitatory: like I posed with my original question, I'm not saying there is or isn't, I'm just saying if there were, they'd be better suited to deal with it at that time
[03:57] <timthelion> how do I get java applets to work? I have java installed
[03:58] <tristanmike> excitatory: I'm not flaming, I'm asking a question....what the heck, we're having a discussion, I'm not getting out of killter, are you ?
[03:58] <excitatory> tristanmike: well, my point is that any problem that would occur would happen just as easily with apt-get, no?
[03:58] <excitatory> no, sorry.
[03:59] <intelikey> !jre
[03:59] <ubotu> I know nothing about jre - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[03:59] <tristanmike> excitatory: again, no, not if aptitude isn't smart enough to realize other packages may dependent on the packages it's going to remove (when you remove any peice of software)
[03:59] <intelikey> !java
[03:59] <ubotu> java is an object oriented programming language. To install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository
[04:00] <tristanmike> excitatory: I'm very curious about this, because it's the only thing holding me back from using it
[04:00] <intelikey> timthelion maybe install the jre package ubotu mentioned ???   i don't do java
[04:00] <hastesaver> !java > timthelion
[04:01] <draik> intelikey, I was looking on the wiki, but didn't find anything useful. I searched for keyboard. Anything else I should look for?
[04:02] <intelikey> tristanmike i missed the first of this,  care to synapsus it for me ?
[04:02] <intelikey> draik multimedia  maybe
[04:02] <excitatory> tristanmike: does apt-get have this capability?  if so, i guarantee aptitude does as well.  but honestly, when it gets down to it, a quick question in #debian will provide the answer.
[04:02] <soulrider> err, how do i save adn quit in vim ?
[04:03] <intelikey> [esc]     :wq
[04:03] <tristanmike> intelikey: basically, I was wondering if you install a program using aptitude, then later install another program that uses the same dependencies/libraries, is it smart enough to leave the stuff used by other programs if you remove using aptitude that first program, does that make sense ?
[04:03] <Dr_Willis> !info vimtutor
[04:03] <ubotu> Package vimtutor does not exist in dapper
[04:03] <Dr_Willis> !info vitutor
[04:03] <ubotu> Package vitutor does not exist in dapper
[04:03] <Dr_Willis> Hmm..
[04:03] <soulrider> :/
[04:03] <tristanmike> excitatory: with apt-get, it doesn't remove dependecies, so only 1 package gets removed, the one you want removed
[04:04] <intelikey> tristanmike yes it is.   deps are deps.   doesn't matter whom all depends on them.
[04:04] <hastesaver> Dr_Willis, vimtutor is part of package vim-common
[04:04] <Dr_Willis> 'vimtutor' is the name of a tutorial program. :P lol
[04:04] <soulrider> so.. Dr_Willis how can i save? :P
[04:04] <Dr_Willis> Yea  - guess dpper moved it in there.
 [esc]     :wq
[04:04] <hastesaver> soulrider, [esc]  :wq, or [esc]  ZZ, or ...
[04:04] <Dr_Willis> hit the escape key.. then :wq
[04:04] <soulrider> ok
[04:05] <tristanmike> intelikey: so if you install a prog using aptitude, and it installs say 7 other things, one of which is used by a prog you install 2 days later, if you remove that original prog, it removes, say 6 instead of 7 cause that other one is being used ?
[04:05] <soulrider> err, it wont do anything
[04:05] <hastesaver> soulrider, there are other editors; you don't *have* to use vi :D
[04:05] <intelikey> tristanmike also of note is an app called deborphin  which us used to remove libs that nothing is depending on.
[04:05] <soulrider> ye, but i dont know why i coultn open kate
[04:05] <soulrider> i allways use kate
[04:06] <RawSewage> i use kwrite
[04:06] <tristanmike> intelikey: in the case of "apt-get" for instance you mean ?
[04:06] <Dr_Willis> !info kvim
[04:06] <ubotu> Package kvim does not exist in dapper
[04:06] <intelikey> tristanmike else asks if it's ok to remove the later prog also because it depends on...
[04:06] <hastesaver> soulrider, try nano for a very dumb editor. Or pico. Or "emacs -nw".
[04:07] <intelikey> yes apt or aptitude  deborphan only lists the un-needed files.
[04:07] <soulrider> k, ill BRB
[04:08] <tristanmike> !info deborphin
[04:08] <ubotu> Package deborphin does not exist in dapper
[04:08] <farous> is there a list of compatible external harddisk for ubuntu. I am going to buy one and am hoping that it will work hastle free?
[04:08] <tristanmike> !info deborphan
[04:08] <ubotu> deborphan: Find orphaned libraries. In repository universe, is optional. Version 1.7.18 (dapper), package size 60 kB, installed size 372 kB
[04:09] <timthelion> !java
[04:09] <ubotu> java is an object oriented programming language. To install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository
[04:09] <intelikey> tristanmike the thing about dependancies is that the whole list of packages depending on blah is listed as blah dependant and blah is listed as needed by the whole list.  that's the way deps work.
[04:09] <intelikey> !info deborphan
[04:09] <ubotu> deborphan: Find orphaned libraries. In repository universe, is optional. Version 1.7.18 (dapper), package size 60 kB, installed size 372 kB
[04:09] <intelikey> i typo a lot.   cant spell for shucks either.
[04:10] <tristanmike> that's ok, we love you just the same intelikey :P
[04:10] <intelikey> lies all lies.
[04:10] <intelikey> :)
[04:11] <Dr_Willis> farous,  most every external usb hard drive should work fine.
[04:11] <spc> hi all, just installed ubuntu 2 days ago, then installed KDE today.   Wow!  this is nice!
[04:11] <Jack1> is there an option like "download widgets" for konqueror?
[04:11] <lasindi[lappy] > Hi all, I've enabled Xgl and Compiz on my new Kubuntu system. Everything works except that I only have one virtual desktop. Is there a way to fix this?
[04:11] <Dr_Willis> Jack1,  widgets? you mean like for SuperKaramba?  desktop widgets?
[04:11] <spc> one problem: the display is a few pixels wider than my screen.  I've googled a lot already - any suggestions where to start?
[04:11] <farous> ok thanx Dr_Willis? any recommendations though
[04:12] <Dr_Willis> farous,  i find that price does matter. :)  the good solid aluminum 'cases' seem to be better built.
[04:12] <intelikey> Jack1 apt-cache search widget
[04:12] <draik> intelikey, IT'S ALIVE!!!!!!!!!!!!
well widgets for konqueror like the opera widgets
[04:12] <Dr_Willis> farous,  i normally get the 'case' and put in my own hd's
[04:12] <draik> Thank you
[04:13] <Dr_Willis> Jack1,  not sure such things exist.
[04:13] <intelikey> i don't think you will find what you are lookin for tho.
[04:13] <farous> ok Dr_Willis thanx for the tips :)
[04:13] <intelikey> draik where did you find the info ?
[04:13] <draik> wiki
[04:13] <intelikey> url i mean
[04:13] <Jack1> yes superkaramba seems to be the only one
[04:13] <Jack1> however thanks
[04:13] <Dr_Willis> Karamba, Superkaramna, Gdesklets,
[04:14] <Dr_Willis> thenya got the various dock and panel applets.
[04:14] <intelikey> i was going to add the infonode to the bot draik
[04:14] <timthelion> how do I make the cli print out the contents of a file?
[04:15] <intelikey> cat file
[04:15] <hastesaver> timthelion, "more" or "less" or "cat"
[04:15] <intelikey> or grep
[04:15] <intelikey> hehhe
[04:15] <hastesaver> or "tail +1"
[04:15] <intelikey> : << file    might work
[04:16] <timthelion> http://papernapkin.org/pastebin/app/view/677
[04:16] <draik> sorry for the delay intelikey was looking for the direct link... Here is the AppPage... http://keytouch.sourceforge.net/ ... Here is the wiki page... https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MultimediaKeys
[04:16] <intelikey> i guess not from the command line.
[04:16] <soulrider> hey im back :P
[04:17] <intelikey> draik thank you
[04:17] <draik> No, thank you intelikey
[04:17] <intelikey> !mediakeys
[04:17] <ubotu> Keyboard shortcuts can be set in system->preferences->keyboard shortcuts (Gnome) or "input actions" in Kcontrol (KDE). If your multimedia keys don't work with that, try keytouch - http://keytouch.sourceforge.net
[04:18] <intelikey> !no mediakeys is shortcuts can be set in system->preferences->keyboard shortcuts (Gnome) or "input actions" in Kcontrol (KDE). If your multimedia keys don't work with that, try keytouch - http://keytouch.sourceforge.net also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MultimediaKeys
[04:18] <timthelion> I am trying to get java applets to work, I can allready type java at the command line.  here is what I tried, http://papernapkin.org/pastebin/app/view/677
[04:19] <draik> perfect intelikey
[04:20] <timthelion> !mediakeys
[04:20] <ubotu> Keyboard shortcuts can be set in system->preferences->keyboard shortcuts (Gnome) or "input actions" in Kcontrol (KDE). If your multimedia keys don't work with that, try keytouch - http://keytouch.sourceforge.net
[04:20] <intelikey> ok anyone think they know grub?   tell me why  grub-install  /dev/hda  yelds this error?
[04:20] <intelikey> Unknown partition table signature
[04:20] <intelikey> Unknown partition table signature
[04:20] <intelikey> The file /boot/grub/stage1 not read correctly.
[04:20] <spc>  Anybody know how to start tweaking my display so it doesn't wrap past the edges?
[04:20] <intelikey> timthelion they will have to proccess it.  no more direct editing the bot.
[04:20] <intelikey> [ubotu(n=ubotu@ubuntu/bot/ubotu)]  Your edit request has been forwarded to
[04:20] <intelikey>           #ubuntu-ops. Thank you for your attention to detail
[04:20] <timthelion> does anyone know why it is not finding those pakages http://papernapkin.org/pastebin/app/view/677
[04:21] <BluesKaj> spc...check your monitor cntrls
[04:21] <intelikey> spc also there is an app.    if i can think of the name....
[04:21] <spc> BluesKaj: How?  I couldn't find any under kubuntu?
[04:21] <BluesKaj> on yer hrdwre
[04:22] <intelikey> display ???
[04:22] <BluesKaj> not in kubuntu , on yer scrn monitor buttons
[04:23] <excitatory> ok
[04:23] <spc> BluesKaj: Thanks - duh, I don't know if I've ever used them on this monitor and completely forgot.... (sheepish)
[04:23] <excitatory> so, you know how kubuntu has customized konqueror profiles?  well, they were missing a feature i desired, and so i followed this: ( http://www.kubuntu.org/faq.php#konqueror ) which restores the original profiles back..which then fixed my problem, but now i have real trouble: any time a kio-slave, kicker quick browser icon, or anything that wants to open a new konqueror window tries to do this, nothing happens.  a window does not open.
[04:23] <excitatory> es manually, but software does not seem to be able to.  Any help would be appreciated.
[04:24] <larson9999> is hotu down for legal reasons or just down?
[04:25] <BluesKaj> spc , np we all forget about the obvious somtimes ...I know I do :)
[04:26] <spc> BluesKaj: that did it, thanks.  Glad it was easy.  :)
[04:26] <BluesKaj> cool :)
[04:26] <spc> wow, kde is amazingly cool.  I love the little animations and effects.
[04:26] <unix_infidel> anyone having problems with the alsaoss wrapper and audacity?
[04:27] <spc> I don't know why my text is always red?
[04:28] <gekko`> spc: for more eye-candy on kde use superkaramba :)
[04:29] <spc> gekko`: I'll look it up.  Using Konquerer?
[04:29] <gekko`> spc: sudo apt-get install superkaramba
[04:29] <gekko`> spc: if you want to insall it
[04:29] <spc> Btw, anyone know how to get stats about my computer?   ram, cpu, that type of thing?
[04:30] <gekko`> gkrellm
[04:30] <keeley> ubuntu
[04:31] <gekko`> well, it does work anyway
[04:31] <keeley> how do i get the Bot to give me the links to the restricted formats?
[04:31] <draik> I can't run my mozilla-thunderbird from command line
[04:31] <tristanmike> !restricted
[04:31] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[04:31] <keeley> ty
[04:31] <BluesKaj> !DeCSS
[04:31] <ubotu> I know nothing about DeCSS - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[04:31] <tristanmike> keeley:  you can "/msg ubotu <factoid>" for a one on one encounter :P
[04:32] <draik> I can't seem to run Thunderbird through command line, but I can do it through K Menu > Internet > Mozilla Thunderbird
[04:32] <draik> any thoughts?
[04:32] <keeley> ok ty. and how do i chat with it? just put an ! infront of keywords?
[04:32] <spc> gekko`: getting superk now, thanks
[04:33] <gekko`> no problem
[04:33] <tristanmike> keeley: best to do a "/msg ubotu <factoid>" then speak with him in your private window
[04:33] <keeley> k
[04:33] <gekko`> spc: kde-look.org is a nice site for eye-candy
[04:33] <tristanmike> keeley: just type anything in the private converstation and it should pop right up for you
[04:33] <keeley> k got it
[04:33] <keeley> thanks
[04:34] <spc> I've convinced my dad to try KDE on his old computer (running Win 98 right now, gahh!)
[04:34] <spc> Do you know if the ubuntu cd that's shipped free has kubuntu on it, or do I need to burn him a new live cd for kubuntu?
[04:35] <gekko`> spc: it has gnome desktop not kde
[04:35] <spc> gekko`: ok, so I'll need to burn a new cd for Kubuntu (he needs the windows friendliness)
[04:45] <spc> I had found Remote Desktop under Gnome, but can't find it under KDE.  Help?
[04:46] <gekko`> spc: make use of the package manager 'adept'
[04:47] <gekko`> spc: just search for 'remote desktop'
[04:49] <spc> gekko`: that's different than synaptic?
[04:49] <spc> gekko`: is adept like synaptic?
[04:49] <gekko`> yes, it's the package manager of kde
[04:49] <gekko`> just open it and you'll see
[04:49] <spc> maybe because I installed kde from synaptic, I didn't get the full normal kde setup.
[04:50] <gekko`> spc: didn't you install the meta-package 'kubuntu-desktop' ?
[04:51] <spc> gekko`: I'll have to check.  I ended up installing several kubuntu packages, of course, but I'm not sure if that was one.
[04:51] <spc> gekko`: I searched for KDE, not Kubuntu (oops)
[04:52] <gekko`> hehe
[04:53] <spc> gekko`: fixing now - 100 MBs will take a few minutes to download.  :)  Will I just need to restart X, or will I need to log out and back in?  Or just see how it goes?....
[04:54] <gekko`> spc: well, it would be good if you kill your X session and install kubuntu-desktop through a text-console terminal
[04:54] <gekko`> spc: just try it with X, it can work though
[04:54] <spc> gekko`: why is that?  I think it's already installing - well, will automatically install when it finishes downloading.
[04:55] <spc> gekko`: if it doesn't, I'll let you know.  ;)
[04:55] <gekko`> spc: I think it will work, I thought wrong
[04:55] <spc> man, I can't get over how much better this is than XP.  How come everyone's not running Linux?!
[04:56] <spc> (rhetorical question, I know some of the answers)
[04:57] <mmorris> I am trying to set up xgl, but I have ran into a problem.  here is what it says:  please tell me what to do  .....
[04:57] <mmorris> Open up a terminal and create a new script named startxgl.sh:
[04:57] <mmorris> gksudo gedit /usr/bin/startxgl.sh
[04:58] <mmorris> it tells me that gksudo is not a command
[04:58] <gekko`> spc: I know. I'm using kubuntu since 1.5 months now and I'm really really satisfied with it and never want to switch back to winxp again
[04:59] <mmorris> Can anybody help me?
[04:59] <Agios> mmorris: use kdesudo kedit
[04:59] <gekko`> it's called 'kdesu'
[04:59] <Agios> sorry, kdesu kedit
[05:00] <keeley> Is there an official FASTEST starting (booting up) Linux version? Kubuntu is pretty fast, but I was just wondering...
[05:00] <mmorris> it says cannot connect to server... what does that mean?
[05:00] <BluesKaj> knoppix
[05:00] <mmorris> "cannot connect to X server"
[05:00] <Agios> mmorris: do it from a $ prompt
[05:00] <draik> I used Knoppix before, it's pretty fast
[05:01] <BluesKaj> live cd
[05:01] <keeley> do u know how fast?
[05:01] <draik> I dual booted knoppix with winxp before I dual booted winxp with Kubuntu (like now)
[05:01] <keeley> live Cd? is there a HDD version?
[05:01] <mmorris> it said command not found
[05:02] <mmorris> what do I need to do now Agios?
[05:02] <Agios> rom a $ prompt type: kdesu kedit
[05:02] <mmorris> is that all I type?
[05:03] <mmorris> how do I get to that prompt?
[05:03] <Agios> well, you can specify the file too, like ...
[05:03] <Agios> kdesu kedit  /usr/bin/startxgl.sh
[05:03] <mmorris> I got the same thing...
[05:03] <mmorris> command not found
[05:03] <BluesKaj> dunno keeley, Inever used the HDD option cuz I didn't see one in my version of knoppix...it's quite old , 5yrs at least
[05:03] <Agios> you are running kubuntu and X is up?
[05:03] <mmorris> Agios: sh: kedit: command not found
[05:04] <mmorris> dont know... ra0 is up
[05:04] <Agios> ok, try kdesu kate  /usr/bin/startxgl.sh
[05:04] <mmorris> eth0 is down
[05:04] <BluesKaj> nitey all
[05:04] <mmorris> what do I type in there?
[05:04] <mmorris> Agios?
[05:04] <Agios> you have kate open?
[05:05] <mmorris> yes, it opened
[05:05] <keeley> well their logo is "Zero to LInux in 5 minutes"
[05:05] <Agios> type whatever the docs you were reading tell you to type
[05:06] <keeley> i was thinking more about Windows Vista it's supposed to cold boot in under a minute
[05:07] <Kyral> keeley: thats NOTHIGN
[05:07] <Kyral> my laptop cold boots in < 20 secs
[05:07] <Kyral> with Arch
[05:08] <mmorris> Agios: have another problem
[05:09] <mmorris> now it is telling me to type the command: gksudo gedit /usr/share/xsessions/xgl.desktop
[05:09] <mmorris> what do I substitute?
[05:09] <crimsun> kdesu kate /usr/share/xsessions/xgl.desktop
[05:09] <Agios> mmorris: kdesu kate
[05:09] <Hobbsee> mmorris: kdesu kwrite ..
[05:09] <Hobbsee> ah
[05:09] <Agios> gksudo = kdesu and gedit = kate
[05:09] <mmorris> kdesu kwrite /usr/share/xsessions/xgl.desktop
[05:10] <mmorris> This?
[05:10] <keeley> kyral: that's pretty good. is it as easy to use as Kubuntu?
[05:10] <mmorris> ok
[05:10] <Kyral> keeley: not really, initially
[05:10] <Kyral> Arch is meant to teach you
[05:10] <Kyral> not hand hold
[05:10] <Kyral> (Kinda like Slackware lol)
[05:11] <Kyral> www.archlinux.org
[05:11] <Agios> boot time is going to depend on the size of the kernel, the number of modules being loaded, and the init scripts.
[05:11] <Agios> smaller/fewer = faster
[05:11] <Kyral> But you can also use sysvconf(I think) to disable scripts
[05:11] <larson9999> hmmm, my machine has locked up everyday for the past 3 days.
[05:11] <Kyral> 2.6.17-Beyond + InitCpio + starting all services in the background == 20 sec
[05:12] <draik> Kyral, /sysinfo
[05:12] <Healot> nice saturday morning and working :(
[05:12] <Kyral> though I managed to do the same thing on Ubuntu
[05:12] <Kyral> Sysinfo for 'HyperDream': Linux 2.6.17-beyond running KDE 3.5.4, CPU: AMD Athlon XP 2100+ at 1733 MHz (3468 bogomips), HD: 286/432GB, RAM: 992/1011MB, 92 proc's, 1.23d up
[05:13] <Kyral> Arch doesn't use SysV style Init
[05:13] <draik> Nice
[05:13] <draik> Sysinfo for 'Lair': Linux 2.6.15-26-686 running KDE 3.5.2, CPU: Intel(R)Pentium(R)4CPU3.20GHz at 3216 MHz (6432 bogomips), , RAM: 790/3031MB, 95 proc's, 3.29h up
[05:13] <mmorris> Okay Agios... here goes nothing... I am going to see if it worked... cross your fingers
[05:13] <Kyral> it uses BSD Style Init (ie, /etc/rc.conf)
[05:13] <Agios> alrighty
[05:13] <crimsun> heh, just wait for keybuk's ReplacementInit
[05:13] <Kyral> and InitCpio
[05:14] <Kyral> jeez another Init
[05:14] <Kyral> what Ubuntu is gonna go ever more off standard?
[05:15] <crimsun> if you mean diverge from its main parent distro -- if such can be called -- sure
[05:15] <Kyral>  Deriving is one thing
[05:15] <Kyral> making a completely new Init is another
[05:16] <Kyral> (Don't talk to me about InitNG, IMO no distro uses it by default yet)
[05:16] <crimsun> we'll have it in Edgy. It's a spec.
[05:17] <Kyral> ...just make it easy for other distros to use
[05:17] <Kyral> Jeez why didja need another style of InitScripts
[05:17] <Kyral> I get confused with SysV and BSD style right now anyway
[05:18] <mmorris> Agios?
[05:18] <mmorris> Agios:  you here?
[05:18] <Agios> yep
[05:19] <mmorris> It didn't work... how can I figure out the problem"?\
[05:19] <mmorris> It just sat there with a bright blue screen, and then went back to the login screen
[05:19] <Agios> what is the error message?
[05:19] <mmorris> no error message... just didn't do anything
[05:20] <mmorris> I clicked on Menu/then checked session type, then xgl, then I logged in
[05:20] <Agios> look in .xsession-errors
[05:20] <Agios> I would guess that's where the errors would be logged
[05:20] <mmorris> what part of that do you want to know
[05:20] <mmorris> ?
[05:21] <mmorris> Failed to open device
[05:21] <mmorris> X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 168
[05:21] <mmorris>   Major opcode:  145
[05:21] <mmorris>   Minor opcode:  3
[05:21] <mmorris>   Resource id:  0x0
[05:21] <mmorris> does that mean anything Agios?
[05:21] <Agios> probably
[05:22] <mmorris> does it mean anything to you?
[05:22] <Agios> google on xgl and the error message
[05:22] <scott> anybody here able to help me troubleshoot my webmin install?
[05:22] <Agios> means it couldn't open some device. If it's your disply it's not real good :)
[05:22] <Agios> I've never installed xgl nor read much about it.
[05:23] <Agios> search the kubuntu forums too
[05:23] <mmorris> it says I need to "comment" some things out of a file.. what does "comment out" mean?
[05:23] <mmorris> get rid of it?
[05:24] <Kr4t05> mmorris: place a # sign infront of the lines in a configuration file.
[05:24] <Agios> more or less, put a # in the 1st position usually
[05:24] <mmorris> oh, ok
[05:27] <draik> I am trying to watch a WMA file in firefox. What plugin would I need to view them?
[05:27] <draik> correction, WMV
[05:28] <gekko`> draik: mozilla-mplayer
[05:28] <draik> its installed
[05:28] <draik> it said something about totem
[05:29] <mmorris> Agios: here we go again... cross your fingers
[05:30] <gekko`> draik: you can also use totem-gstreamer-firefox-plugin
[05:30] <Agios> apt-get install w32codecs
[05:30] <draik> Here is the error message...
[05:30] <dermitrius> i have an intresting ifconfig issues on my dapper server, the eth devices get the correct ips but when i ifconfig the inet values are 169 based ips, any ideas, btw i have a 2 nic setup
[05:31] <draik> Totem could not play 'fd://0'.
[05:31] <draik> Video codec 'MS WMV 8 (win32)' is not handled. You might need to install additional plugins to be able to play some types of movies
[05:31] <gekko`> draik: look what Agios said
[05:32] <draik> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/i19748
[05:32] <Healot> !info w32codecs
[05:32] <ubotu> Package w32codecs does not exist in dapper
[05:32] <draik> nope
[05:32] <draik> sure doesn't
[05:32] <Agios> well, it's there for me, I installed it. Check your sources :)
[05:33] <Healot> !seveas
[05:33] <ubotu> Seveas has a semi-popular 3rd party repository for several packages. More info (and mirrors) on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[05:33] <draik> I have both universe and multiverse
[05:33] <Healot> that's the repos
[05:33] <mmorris> Agios, you there?
[05:33] <mmorris> didn't work
[05:33] <mmorris> did the same thing
[05:33] <mmorris> I'm gonna see if it gave me the same error
[05:33] <Healot> third party repos. Agios, do not recommend third party repos as it is from ubuntu, please
[05:35] <draik> gekko` I can't install the totem-gstreamer-firefox-plugin. BREAK INSTALL
[05:36] <Hawkwind> Healot: 3rd party repos are recommended here all the time, day after day
[05:36] <draik> How do I go around a BREAK INSTALL?
[05:36] <Agios> well, if he want's to play wmv files he's going to have to install that package
[05:37] <Hawkwind> Healot: For him to be able to play wmv files, he will need to install w32codecs or else he's out of luck.  It's mentioned here every night practically
[05:37] <mmorris> I got the same error after doing what it said to do to fix it
[05:38] <Hawkwind> !info w32codecs
[05:38] <Healot> I'd used Windows for that, hoho
[05:38] <ubotu> Package w32codecs does not exist in dapper
[05:38] <Hawkwind> Healot: He wants to do it in Linux, and it's easily done.  PLF happens to be something very trustworthy
[05:38] <Healot> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[05:38] <Healot> well, I recommend you to migrate to freeformat instead
[05:39] <draik> how/where can I get the w32codecs?
[05:39] <Hawkwind> Why ?  w32codecs is needed by millions of linux users
[05:39] <Hawkwind> draik: From PLF
[05:39] <Hawkwind> !plf
[05:39] <ubotu> plf is the Penguin Liberation Front, see http://wiki.ubuntu-fr.org/doc/plf - mainly for i386 users with some packages for ppc
[05:40] <Hawkwind> Healot: Just because you don't use it doesn't mean anyone else shouldn't.  Also doesn't mean this channel can't recommend them since it's done day and night
[05:40] <Healot> isn't fsf recommends not to use proprietary formats, what's the point of migrating to Windows to Linux then, just my two cents, you don't have to agree with me
[05:41] <Hawkwind> Healot: I don't agree in some ways.  I'm one that preaches if you leave Windows then stay away.  But some people need to play wmv files, and therefore w32codecs is needed
[05:41] <Healot> i'd still use Windows for Windows-related stuff, and that's my other one cent
[05:42] <Agios> playing a wmv file is as valid for a linux user as a windows user
[05:42] <darkseed> need help with kubuntu dapper 6.06  after i mount a network share it disapears???
[05:42] <Hawkwind> Healot: I would use Windows when it comes to major things like games, office related stuff.  But for something minor like a wmv file, it can be done in Linux quite simply
[05:43] <Healot> i just need the DRM part... and games...
[05:43] <farous> !drm
[05:43] <ubotu> I know nothing about drm - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[05:43] <Healot> i buy copies of music... btw :)
[05:43] <Healot> legal copies, damn, why I did that?
[05:43] <farous> !dma
[05:43] <ubotu> dma is Direct Memory Access/Addressing.  It makes hard disks run faster,  see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DMA
[05:43] <farous> ah got it
[05:44] <draik> Got them
[05:44] <draik> Thank you Hawkwind
[05:44] <Hawkwind> Healot: I buy legal copies of my music too.  In fact, I have over 7500 CD's in my house.  Still doesn't mean I won't ever need to play a wmv file
[05:44] <Hawkwind> Healot: In fact, if you buy legal copies of music from Napster, they happen to be in wmv format.
[05:45] <Healot> ipod store... napster? what is that hehe
[05:46] <ubuntu_Phantom78> i ran the kubuntu installer but it gave me a "cannot create file system error"
[05:47] <Healot> the desktop installer? was it, ubuntu_Phantom78 ?
[05:47] <ubuntu_Phantom78> yes
[05:47] <Healot> you received the error after you encounter the disk formatting?
[05:48] <wolfmanz> Agios aint you a system admin ?
[05:48] <keeley> wtf y don't they have EasyUbuntu at the very top of the Restricted Formats page? OMG I just wasted alot of time
[05:48] <ubuntu_Phantom78> i wasn't watching the install, but it was after selecting the partition
[05:49] <Agios> wolfmanz: Not sure what that is exactly but I probably qualify :)
[05:49] <Kyral> keeley: so you don't have to rely on it
[05:49] <wolfmanz> keeley ya easy ubuntu should be installed on the desktop when you install ubuntu/kubuntu
[05:49] <Kyral> no it shouldn't
[05:49] <wolfmanz> Agios i though you were a system admin as in your day job ?
[05:49] <keeley> ya nothing is on my desktop by default when I installed Kubunto
[05:50] <Kyral> heh nothing eh?
[05:50] <Kyral> KDE is something
[05:50] <Agios> well, we don't use that title. I do system level work on mainframe boxes.
[05:50] <Kyral> Arch comes with nothing (literally)
[05:51] <keeley> does Arch boot up slower when u install more stuff?
[05:51] <Kyral> Well, system services....
[05:51] <Kyral> but stuff like KDE and apps, no way
[05:52] <Agios> services take time to start and initialize
[05:52] <Kyral> Where do you get the idea that more apps == slower boottime
[05:52] <Kyral> like fractions of seconds actually
[05:52] <Kyral> the real killer on my system is my ReiserFS /home
[05:52] <Kyral> takes a good 30 secs to mount
[05:52] <Kyral> (Ithis is my Desktop)
[05:53] <keeley> well windows sucks bad with installing more stuff=slower boot
[05:53] <Kyral> This is why you only fire up enough services to get the system running
[05:53] <Agios> well windows sucks.
[05:53] <Agios> you could stp there :)
[05:54] <Agios> or after bad.
[05:54] <keeley> i g2g brb
[05:54] <Healot> Windows is cool, and even linuxers need Windows technologies, e.g. w32codecs hehe
[05:54] <Kyral> w32codecs is not Windows Technologies
[05:54] <ubuntu_Phantom78> only because windows dominates so much
[05:54] <Agios> I'm going to bed. Enough fun for one day.
[05:55] <Kyral> w32codecs are codecs for propreitary things that no one makes codecs for Linux for
[05:55] <wolfmanz> actually i think xp loads faster then kubuntu lol
[05:55] <Healot> it uses Window Media, I not sure that's even legal?
[05:55] <Kyral> its not in the US
[05:56] <Healot> not in countries where Microsoft patented the technology I guess
[05:56] <draik> LOL
[05:56] <wolfmanz> dont worry about whats legal microsoft dont care whats legaal or not in terms of what they practise so why should you worry about it lol
[05:56] <thompa> is it possible to rip a cd track as i listen in what?
[05:57] <draik> The codecs work and I saw the funny video of the guy who passed out 3x in an F16 ride
[05:57] <draik> http://www.military.com
[05:57] <keeley> !restricted
[05:57] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[05:57] <Healot> wolfmanz, I am concern user... i don't know about you... so i just saving my butt then
[05:58] <thompa> draik: are you in the air force?
[05:58] <draik> Nope
[05:58] <thompa> nevermind
[05:58] <draik> thompa, I'm in nothing military
[05:58] <thompa> what can i use to listen and rip of a cd?
[05:58] <draik> I have friends in Navy, Army, Air Force and possibly one in Marines (not sure)
[05:59] <Hawkwind> thompa: grip
[05:59] <thompa> draik: im a vet anyway
[05:59] <thompa> cold war though he he
[05:59] <draik> thompa vet? from?
[05:59] <draik> what military group, I meant?
[05:59] <thompa> are you running kubuntu64 by any chance?
[06:00] <hooper> I have ubuntu on dual boot on a pc than runs xp also. the xp install runs my video at 1280x1024 but I can't get ubuntu past 1024x768. what can I do?
[06:00] <thompa> air force
[06:00] <thompa> i just realized im in gnome,
[06:00] <draik> thompa, I would love to be in either the Air Force or Navy... Asthma and glasses hold me back
[06:00] <draik> But I've heard of ways of going around that
[06:01] <thompa> eye sites not much a problem
[06:01] <draik> I might go laser, but I heard that they don't accept people with laser-corrected eyes
[06:01] <thompa> stay away from military for some years ,
[06:01] <draik> I'm 23, I'm doing good so far :)
[06:01] <thompa> dont go its a trick
[06:02] <draik> NAVY... Never Again Volunteer Yourself
[06:02] <draik> I've heard the stories... it's my last resort
[06:02] <thompa> now cut off might be 42
[06:02] <thompa> he he
[06:02] <hooper> is this the right place to ask setup questions?
[06:02] <draik> don't matter, I'm a computer guy and that's as good as my usage goes
[06:03] <draik> hooper, what's your issue?
[06:03] <thompa> no ones answering any of my questions anyway
[06:03] <spc> gekko`: I installed kubuntu-desktop, and found the "desktop sharing", but still couldn't access from my other computer?
[06:03] <draik> what's your question thompa?
[06:03] <spc> do I need to restart X?
[06:03] <hooper> I can't get kubuntu past 1024x768 res
[06:04] <thompa> firstly, can i rip and listen to my cd at the same time
[06:04] <draik> yes
[06:04] <ubuntu_Phantom78> is there a difff file between the desktop iso and the non-dekstop iso (forget what its called)?
[06:04] <thompa> what app, or do i use two, i have one drive
[06:04] <draik> you can do both at the same time
[06:04] <Healot> ubuntu_Phantom78, alternate installer
[06:05] <Healot> the original debinstaller...
[06:05] <hooper> draik, I can't get kubuntu past 1024x768 res
[06:05] <thompa> im using sound juicer
[06:05] <farous> hooper: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[06:06] <draik> hooper, have you checked the wiki?
[06:06] <thompa> hooper: what specs you want?
[06:06] <hooper> farous, yes have trid that, it put me into illegible 24bit mode, looks very nasty
[06:06] <thompa> edit xorg.conf
[06:06] <hooper> going for 1280x1024. dual boot with xp that handles it fine
[06:06] <farous> hooper: do you know how to edit xorg.conf file
[06:07] <thompa> i always have to for 14440x900 anyway
[06:07] <hooper> thompa, yes, but not quite sure why it won't
[06:07] <draik> thompa, I have seen something about that, let me check
[06:07] <hooper> farous, no probs there
[06:07] <farous> hooper: so you can set it there under monitor or screen section
[06:07] <hooper> farous, yes, have file up now
[06:08] <thompa> find out your optimal resolution thenb just ad it to xorg.conf, edit there at color resolution
[06:09] <thompa> go ahead
[06:09] <hooper> thompa, optimal res is there, but it doesn't work and is not shown as an option under system settings either. like it's ignored
[06:09] <thompa> hooper: is it in how many colors 16 or 24?
[06:09] <farous> hooper: did you restart the xserver after editing the xorg.conf file
[06:09] <draik> thompa, grip
[06:10] <hooper> thompa, I have it in 16, coz 24 looks like it's not syncing
[06:10] <draik> !grip
[06:10] <ubotu> grip is a ripping player and has a minor bug which can be solved by doing this "sudo ln -s /dev/hdX /dev/cdromN" where X is your hard drive and N a number
[06:10] <hooper> farous, yes, restart between edits
[06:10] <thompa> thanks so much
[06:10] <thompa> for grip that is
[06:11] <draik> don't thank me, thank Hawkwind
[06:11] <thompa>  Depth           24
[06:11] <thompa>                 Modes           "1440x900"
[06:11] <thompa> sry about that
[06:11] <draik> He said it earlier
[06:11] <thompa> hooper: just have the one res. like above
[06:11] <hooper> thompa, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg defaults to 24, but when I run X it looks illegible, so I hand edit xorg.conf back to 16
[06:11] <thompa> or 16
[06:11] <thompa> only put the correct mode, are you running vesa?
[06:12] <hooper> ok thompa, I could try that I guess
[06:12] <hooper> brb
[06:12] <thompa> log out of x, come back
[06:12] <hooper> yep
[06:12] <thompa> make sure its vesa driver i guess
[06:12] <hooper> thompa, u talking to me?
[06:13] <thompa> unless you know its nvidia and you have driver installed, dont use nv
[06:13] <thompa> yes hooper
[06:13] <hooper> thompa, it's using s3
[06:14] <thompa> how old is it
[06:14] <hooper> 2004
[06:14] <farous> hooper: might it be the freq setting i had a prob like that setting freq to 60hz solved it
[06:14] <hooper> thompa, I looked up the specs for my monitor and set the right ranges
[06:15] <thompa> hooper: thats also important horiz. and vert. freq.
[06:15] <thompa> if its lcd or crt?
[06:15] <hooper> lcd
[06:15] <thompa> then its ok
[06:16] <hooper> then what's ok?
[06:16] <thompa> the lcd is probably working ok
[06:16] <hooper> oh, k
[06:16] <thompa> so use vesa driver
[06:16] <thompa> whats the exact card for graphic?
[06:17] <thompa> you can try different drivers, s3 i had like 12 years ago last
[06:17] <draik> What's the linux version of Publisher? I need to make business cards
[06:17] <thompa> my lcd only works first in vesa for resolution
[06:18] <keeley> so there's no way to get WMP 11 beta or 10 final to run in linux?
[06:18] <thompa> draik: scribus
[06:19] <hooper> is there a 'restart' command/icon I can use in kubuntu?
[06:19] <hooper> newbie :S
[06:19] <keeley> no windows Emulator or anything?
[06:19] <thompa> draik: scribus is kde, then you can make templates also in OO.org
[06:20] <froked> saludos
[06:20] <froked> Hi
[06:20] <draik> thank you thompa
[06:21] <thompa> draik: koffice makes nice templates too, and you can have your own icons for them
[06:21] <thompa> im just now trying konqeuror in gnome
[06:22] <|lostbyte|> keeley, wine.
[06:22] <draik> sweet
[06:22] <draik> I just need to make some business cards cuz people were asking me for them. Funny thing is that I never had any before
[06:23] <hooper> ok, it's official... kubuntu is ignoring what I teel it in xorg.conf :S
[06:23] <Ertain> For some strange reason, I can't seem to boot under the 2.6.15-26 kernel.  Upon closer inspection, I think it's my version of the nVidia driver.
[06:24] <thompa> hooper: have you re-xed out right?
[06:24] <hooper> I have my default mode at 16 and only one res "1280x1024" in that mode, but it comes up in 1024x768
[06:24] <Healot> from the dmesg output, Ertain ?
[06:24] <hooper> thompa, re-xed?
[06:24] <thompa> hooper: put vesa there and test it
[06:24] <Ertain> Can do.
[06:24] <posthuman> !nvidia
[06:24] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[06:24] <hooper> put vesa where thompa?
[06:25] <thompa> hooper: on xorg.conf .. driver "nv?"
[06:25] <thompa> hooper: put vesa there in "vesa"
[06:25] <thompa> hooper: then idf it works its the driver
[06:25] <thompa> yoo dark to type here
[06:26] <thompa>     Driver          "nvidia" change to "vesa" . save and restart x desktop
[06:27] <hooper> thompa, I don't see the word vesa anywhere in xorg.conf
[06:27] <thompa> ive got to figure out what to do with these scratched up cds.
[06:27] <ubuntu> hi,,, very new to linux,, I have probably tried 6 dif distro... believe ubuntu is the best,,  I have managed to set up a server in command line, but would like to set  up a webserver within kubuntu...
[06:27] <thompa> hooper: do you see driver "
[06:27] <hooper> thompa, yes
[06:28] <thompa> what is next to it
[06:28] <hooper> section "Device" driver "s3"
[06:28] <thompa>  Driver          "nvidia"
[06:28] <Ertain> Here's the error -> http://pastebin.ca/116207
[06:29] <thompa> hooper: so its not using nvidia, then try vesa there
[06:29] <farous> hooper: do you have a savage or nividia card?
[06:29] <thompa> if you get no screen chang it back
[06:29] <hooper> farous I actually have a sis card according to xp
[06:29] <hooper> thompa, replace driver "s3" with driver "vesa"?
[06:30] <thompa> hooper: well driver "s3" tells you what it is your using
[06:30] <thompa> hooper: if you have an nvidia driver, no problem
[06:30] <farous> hooper: what do lspci tell you about your video card?
[06:30] <thompa> hooper: i mean card, lots of cards will work
[06:30] <Ertain> And here's a little something from my Xorg.log file -> http://pastebin.ca/116208
[06:31] <thompa> hooper: do you have an s3 card, nvidia, or what?
[06:31] <hooper> thompa, farous, lspci says it's a s3 86c/764/765 Trio
[06:32] <hooper> I don't know how nvidia came up at all :)
[06:33] <farous> hooper: then your driver should be s3
[06:33] <thompa> hooper: do you know how to edit xorg.conf ans save it?
[06:33] <farous> there is an s3 driver in the xorg package i just checked
[06:33] <hooper> ok, well it is
[06:33] <hooper> yes I do, no probs
[06:33] <thompa> did you try vesa
[06:34] <hooper> got the file up now thompa
[06:34] <thompa> every card ive had works with that
[06:34] <hooper> do I replace "s3" with "vesa"?
[06:34] <thompa> you can either backup the file first mv xorg.conf xorg.confbk
[06:34] <Healot> "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" is safer...
[06:35] <farous> hooper: i would try replacing nividia with s3 then if it do not work use vesa
[06:35] <thompa> hes right
[06:35] <farous> vesa is the wild card
[06:35] <hooper> thompa, I also have a line under "Device" that says: boardname "s3". Do I change that to vesa also?
[06:35] <thompa> but it will work with vesa maybe 50 50
[06:35] <thompa> no
[06:35] <hooper> ok
[06:35] <hooper> brb then
[06:36] <thompa> if it does not work change it back
[06:36] <thompa> ctrl f1 for a prompt
[06:36] <thompa> too late hes doomed
[06:37] <|lostbyte|> lol
[06:38] <thompa> it will work
[06:39] <waggle7622frack> can someone help with boot error? Error 15: File not found
[06:40] <waggle7622frack> fresh install
[06:40] <draik> Might need to reinstall GRUB
[06:40] <|lostbyte|> waggle7622frack, Where exactly do you see it ?
[06:40] <waggle7622frack> right at boot
[06:40] <draik> I think it might be the GRUB
[06:40] <waggle7622frack> says filesystem type reiser but its ext3
[06:41] <waggle7622frack> path is correct
[06:41] <hackman2007> hi can anyone assist me with something?
[06:41] <Healot> reiser is ext3 with something extra on it :)
[06:42] <draik> hackman2007, what's your issue?
[06:42] <hackman2007> I need to download a chipset driver for my motherboard in order to get on the internet with Kubuntu or any other Linux distro, but it says I have to build something
[06:42] <draik> hackman2007, open up a Konsole window.
[06:42] <Healot> !info build-essential
[06:42] <draik> Type the following
[06:42] <ubotu> build-essential: informational list of build-essential packages. In repository main, is optional. Version 11.1 (dapper), package size 6 kB, installed size 48 kB
[06:42] <Healot> !info linux-headers
[06:42] <ubotu> Package linux-headers does not exist in dapper
[06:42] <hackman2007> "Unable to find the system utility 'ld'; please make sure you have the package 'binutils' installed. If you don't have binutils installed, then please check that 'ld' is in your path"
[06:43] <draik> sudo apt-get install build-essential
[06:43] <Healot> !find linux-headers
[06:43] <ubotu> Found: linux-headers-2.6.15-23, linux-headers-2.6.15-23-386, linux-headers-2.6.15-23-686, linux-headers-2.6.15-23-k7, linux-headers-2.6.15-23-server (and 18 others)
[06:43] <draik> type that in and you will have what you needs
[06:43] <draik> *need
[06:43] <hackman2007> which part?
[06:43] <draik> sudo apt-get install build-essential
[06:43] <hackman2007> anything after that?
[06:43] <draik> thats it
[06:43] <draik> it will install itself
[06:43] <draik> just press Y
[06:44] <hackman2007> all right
[06:44] <hackman2007> brb
[06:44] <draik> k
[06:45] <hackman2007> draik: that didn't work
[06:45] <draik> what didn't work
[06:46] <draik> what is your error?
[06:46] <draik> did you type it in exactly as I typed it
[06:46] <hackman2007> couldn't find package build-essential
[06:46] <hackman2007> yeah I typed exactly what you typed
[06:46] <draik> Kubuntu?
[06:46] <hackman2007> yes
[06:46] <draik> 6.06
[06:46] <draik> Dapper Drake?
[06:47] <hackman2007> ????
[06:47] <farous> !info build-essential
[06:47] <ubotu> build-essential: informational list of build-essential packages. In repository main, is optional. Version 11.1 (dapper), package size 6 kB, installed size 48 kB
[06:47] <draik> You should have it
[06:47] <draik> Open Adept
[06:47] <farous> hackman2007: might be a typo search for it again
[06:47] <draik> search for 'build-essential'
[06:47] <draik> not essentials
[06:47] <hackman2007> how do I search for it?
[06:47] <draik> its not the same
[06:47] <draik> in the search bar
[06:48] <hackman2007> what search bar lol
[06:48] <|lostbyte|> hackman2007, adept
[06:48] <draik> Open Adept
[06:48] <|lostbyte|> hackman2007, it will be in the menu under system.
[06:48] <draik> You'll find a bar and you type in 'build-essential'
[06:48] <draik> it will filter for that file
[06:49] <hackman2007> I'll look
[06:49] <hackman2007> brb
[06:49] <hackman2007> nope
[06:50] <hackman2007> it's not there
[06:50] <draik> how are you typing it in?
[06:50] <farous> hackman2007: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[06:50] <farous> hackman2007: copy and paste form the chat channel
[06:50] <hackman2007> in adept, it's not listed when I search for it
[06:50] <draik> except for your nick
[06:52] <thompa> hooperhooper: did it work
[06:52] <hooperhooper> thompa, snaps to you mate. vesa got me going in 1280x1024
[06:52] <hackman2007> draik: it still didn't work
[06:53] <thompa> hooperhooper: i have the correct modeline entry also if you want to try s3 sometime
[06:53] <hooperhooper> so is there any performance loss thompa?
[06:53] <draik> do this
[06:53] <hooperhooper> thompa, that would be great thanks
[06:53] <|lostbyte|> hackman2007, could you pastebin US your /etc/apt/sources.list ?
[06:53] <draik> apt-get update
[06:53] <damian_> .
[06:53] <hackman2007> (I don't have internet on the machine btw)
[06:53] <farous> hackman2007: lol
[06:53] <hooperhooper> ok, who knows anything about webmin?
[06:54] <damian_> .
[06:54] <thompa> for s3 driver after depth 16 , Modes "1024x768@85"
[06:54] <hooperhooper> thompa, I have to register for priv
[06:54] <thompa> ok
[06:55] <thompa> just make sure you have that or s3 wont work i think
[06:55] <hooperhooper> thompa, what about 1280x1024 tho?>
[06:55] <draik> hackman2007, can you do as |lostbyte| asked and please pastebin your sources.list file
[06:56] <hackman2007> how do I do that lol
[06:56] <draik> http://www.pastebin.ca
[06:56] <farous> draik: his ubuntu box is not connected to the net
[06:56] <draik> go there
[06:56] <draik> farous, using a different box?
[06:56] <farous> hackman2007: for netwrok installation using adept you need to connect the box ot the net
[06:56] <hackman2007> ummm
[06:57] <thompa> hooperhooper: it wont work then maybe, i dont know
[06:57] <draik> hackman2007, is that Kubuntu computer hooked up to the internet?
[06:57] <hooperhooper> thompa, any problem sticking with vesa?
[06:57] <hackman2007> yes, it should be lol
[06:57] <thompa> hooperhooper: whats the computer?
[06:57] <draik> it should, that's why I ask
[06:57] <hooperhooper> thompa, it's for dev work, not gaming
[06:58] <thompa> hooperhooper: and the s3 is onboard 32 or 64M
[06:58] <hooperhooper> hp pavilion t230a
[06:58] <hooperhooper> just 32 I think
[06:58] <hackman2007> draik: it's connected through a netgear router
[06:59] <draik> and it has connectivity?
[06:59] <hackman2007> nope
[06:59] <draik> lights are blinking for that port?
[06:59] <hackman2007> yes
[06:59] <draik> then you're not on the net
[06:59] <Kadran> hi
[06:59] <hooperhooper> does anybody know anything about webmin?
[06:59] <thompa> hooperhooper: its a p4 fast machine
[06:59] <hackman2007> yeah, but that's what I'm trying to do lol
[06:59] <hackman2007> get it on the net
[06:59] <thompa> fast enough anyway
[07:00] <Kadran> i want to know if Creative MuVo mp3 s200 player could work with kubuntu or not
[07:00] <thompa> hooperhooper: do you have your system specs and all that right
[07:00] <farous> hackman2007: is it the wireless you are having probs with
[07:00] <|lostbyte|> Kadran, is there a linux port ?
[07:00] <hackman2007> farous: no, wired
[07:01] <Kadran> |lostbyte|: i don't know what is port?
[07:01] <hooper> thompa, not really, anything I can execute to get them?
[07:01] <hackman2007> want to know my motherboard model?
[07:01] <farous> hackman2007: that is wired wired eth should work out of the box
[07:01] <draik> no
[07:01] <thompa> hooperhooper: if its a t230a?
[07:01] <Kadran> |lostbyte|: it uses USB 2.0
[07:01] <thompa> hooperhooper: your driver is wrong
[07:01] <hackman2007> farous: is there any other way to make it work?
[07:03] <farous> hackman2007: the network driver is a kernel thing and this is the first i heared ethnet had probs try hooking it up directly to the net you might have probs with the router
[07:03] <draik> hackman2007, power cycle your complete setup. Computers, router, and moden
[07:03] <draik> *modem
[07:03] <thompa> hooperhooper: its a intel graphics driver
[07:03] <hackman2007> what's weird is my other computers' connect
[07:03] <draik> power cycle
[07:03] <hackman2007> and Windows connects on that computer too
[07:03] <hackman2007> I've already tried that lol
[07:04] <draik> try it again
[07:04] <thompa> sfkhooper: is that still you
[07:04] <sfkhooper> yes thompa, registered
[07:04] <|lostbyte|> Kadran, Connet it.
[07:04] <thompa> sfkhooper: oh
[07:05] <keeley> help! no idea wut my pass is when I type "su" in Konsole/Terminal
[07:05] <Kr4t05> !su
[07:05] <draik> keeley
[07:05] <ubotu> I know nothing about su - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[07:05] <Kr4t05> !sudo
[07:05] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[07:05] <hackman2007> draik: someone told me the the following the motherboard works fine in Linux as long as you load the latest BIOS (1001 for Asus, 3.0 for MSI) and use the latest kernel
[07:05] <|lostbyte|> Kadran, If it works as a normal flash drive, you'll see an icon pop on your Screen..
[07:05] <draik> keeley, sudo passwd root
[07:05] <draik> that will reset it for you
[07:06] <draik> hackman2007, get the updates and install them. See if that works
[07:06] <hackman2007> how lol?
[07:07] <draik> what is your motherboard?
[07:07] <draik> Go to their website and get the updated BIOS
[07:07] <draik> flash your BIOS
[07:07] <hackman2007> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16813130041
[07:07] <draik> Update completed
[07:08] <keeley> thanks draik u always know wut to do
[07:08] <farous> hackman2007: you have a real prob deb based distros are network dependent try searching the forums for work around. you will have to do lots of manual downloads and then transfer files to your box
[07:08] <draik> keeley, I try
[07:08] <draik> keeley, You are very welcome
[07:09] <Dark_Oppressor> how do i see what kernal i have?
[07:09] <crimsun> uname -r
[07:09] <Dark_Oppressor> thanks
[07:10] <posthuman> !nvidia
[07:10] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[07:10] <Kadran> |lostbyte|: thanks man
[07:12] <posthuman> hey everyone, i can't remember how..but how do i reconfigure xorg with dpkg-reconfigure .. what is the package name?
[07:12] <farous> xserver-xorg
[07:12] <posthuman> thanks
[07:12] <posthuman> :)
[07:12] <farous> :)
[07:15] <waggle7622frack> looks like I need help fixing my grub. but everything looks right
[07:17] <waggle7622frack> kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.15-23-386 root=/dev/hda1 ro quiet splash
[07:17] <waggle7622frack> error 15: file not found
[07:17] <niki> hello excuse me for my englisch ,what is the name of the package to turn the numlock on?
[07:19] <niki> i musst tu use the fn button always zu writw my text
[07:19] <niki> -w+e
[07:19] <farous> niki: numlockx
[07:19] <keeley> how do i fix "rpm: command not found"
[07:19] <keeley> ?
[07:19] <Hawkwind> keeley: Ubuntu doesn't use rpm
[07:19] <farous> keeley: by using rpm package :)
[07:19] <Hawkwind> keeley: It uses apt-get
[07:19] <plugs> Could somebody help me out? This is probably a pretty common problem. i installed gcc and when i try to install anything i get "C compiler cannot create executables"
[07:20] <keeley> ok nvm
[07:20] <niki> thx
[07:20] <farous> keeley: ubuntu used dep packages
[07:20] <draik> keeley, use alien
[07:20] <draik> sudo apt-get install alien
[07:20] <draik> that will let you install rpm packages
[07:20] <farous> keeley: that in the rare case you can not find a deb binary for what you want
[07:20] <farous> !alien
[07:20] <ubotu> rpm is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu does not use RPM, but !APT, and RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous).
[07:21] <keeley> no they have a non-RPM version i'll just use it
[07:21] <draik> !APT
[07:21] <ubotu> apt is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AptGetHowto  -  Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)
[07:21] <keeley> !rpm
[07:21] <ubotu> rpm is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu does not use RPM, but !APT, and RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous).
[07:21] <keeley> oooooo, quite dangerous
[07:21] <plugs> i installed gcc and when i try to install anything i get "C compiler cannot create executables", what do i do?
[07:22] <draik> mmhmmm
[07:22] <farous> plugs: install build-essential
[07:22] <plugs> i'll try that out
[07:24] <plugs> that worked, thanks, but now i have some new problem.
[07:24] <farous> plugs: go ahead ask and someone will help\
[07:25] <plugs> okay, well i'm trying to install PyGTK and i get "gobject is required to build pygtk?"
[07:25] <Healot> !ask
[07:25] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[07:26] <farous> i think this factoid need to be modified to be more understandable ;)
[07:26] <Healot> you need the GTK+ libraries and pygtk binder
[07:26] <Healot> !info libgtk+
[07:26] <ubotu> Package libgtk+ does not exist in dapper
[07:26] <Healot> !info libgtk2.0
[07:26] <ubotu> Package libgtk2.0 does not exist in dapper
[07:27] <farous> !info libgtk2.0-0
[07:27] <ubotu> libgtk2.0-0: The GTK+ graphical user interface library. In repository main, is optional. Version 2.8.20-0ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 2037 kB, installed size 4520 kB
[07:27] <farous> Healot: there you go
[07:28] <plugs> looks like i already have libgtk2.0-0
[07:29] <soulrider> guys, i accidentally cancelled an adept installation, how can i resume it using the CLI ?
[07:30] <Healot> plugs, install libpygtk?
[07:30] <Healot> !find libpygtk
[07:30] <ubotu> No packages matching 'libpygtk' could be found
[07:30] <Healot> !find libpy
[07:30] <ubotu> Found: libpythonize0, libpythonize0-dev
[07:30] <Healot> somewhere around that hoho
[07:31] <plugs> i'll try the first one
[07:31] <crimsun> python-gtk2-dev
[07:32] <|lostbyte|> soulrider, It will resume as you select to install it again..
[07:33] <soulrider> yes, but i selected several packages to install :/
[07:33] <plugs> alright looks like something worked. =]
[07:33] <plugs> i think python-gtk2 did it for me
[07:33] <plugs> let's see if the rest of the install goes how i want
[07:34] <|lostbyte|> soulrider, if  you stoped at the download prcess.. dont worry.
[07:34] <soulrider> not he thing is
[07:34] <soulrider> i downlaoded java
[07:34] <soulrider> but ic ouldnt click or slect yes int he licence agreement
[07:34] <soulrider> and it gor fooked up
[07:35] <farous> soulrider: that is a known bug install java from the command line
[07:35] <draik> do it again soulrider
[07:35] <soulrider> and not it sais somehtign is using adept adn the process is blocked
[07:35] <draik> kill
[07:35] <draik> actually, I forgot the command to kill the tree
[07:35] <draik> kill adept anyway
[07:35] <soulrider> kill -l adept ?
[07:36] <soulrider> wont let me do killa dept
[07:36] <soulrider> killall worked
[07:36] <draik> killall works too
[07:36] <draik> yup
[07:36] <soulrider> its installing now, thanks!
[07:37] <dubuntu> hello my friends
[07:37] <draik> hello dubuntu
[07:37] <soulrider> hi dubuntu
[07:37] <dubuntu> every now them X on kubuntu hangs !!
[07:37] <draik> ummm sure, np
[07:37] <dubuntu> soulrider: hi
[07:38] <soulrider> done with java, now eclipse! :P
[07:38] <dubuntu> when I do shit + alt + f1 console does not comes !!
[07:38] <dubuntu> when I do shfit + alt + f1 console does not comes !!
[07:38] <soulrider> shit... interesting key, i dont seem to have it
[07:39] <soulrider> :P
[07:39] <dubuntu> is this bug in ubuntu ?
[07:39] <soulrider> use alt+space
[07:39] <soulrider> and then type konsole
[07:39] <soulrider> or alt f2 and then konsole
[07:39] <draik> careful soulrider, don't get banned