[19:05] <vocx> anfegame, but what does high priority mean for you? You want it to take all available resources or what?
[19:05] <Dulak> dnkbd: add the module name to /etc/modules for it to automatically be probed on boot
[19:05] <DasEi> judget: no, and as in terms of time, looks like like a corrupt burn or iso then, try lucid , and before verify download, burn at slow spead and use cd-own verification , too.. or better even use a usb stick, spare cdrom's
[19:05] <juk> sypie: why would i care
[19:05] <DasEi> !md5
[19:05] <anfegame> alright! i am tryig to run this loop of a mic to sound live through my speakers
[19:06] <anfegame> so i do it with this command sense i dint find no other way
[19:06] <anfegame> and it loops it
[19:06] <Senjai> does anyone her euse mac4lin?
[19:06] <anfegame> but it like plays whatver u say like 3 seconds after
[19:06] <judget> ok im doing 10.4 now ill let u know
[19:06] <anfegame> so i am trying to make it run with highter priority so it sounds right away, as i speak
[19:06] <DasEi> wauf:a vm is a full usable os, but never has the performance of a "native install
[19:06] <DasEi> !dualboot
[19:06] <blkdg> Luis_, is this a basic install?
[19:06] <dnkbd> just the module name nothing else?
[19:07] <anfegame> do u understand what i am trying to do?
[19:07] <Luis_> blkdg, as far as i am aware, yes i don't know what you'd call a basic install but its simply been downloaded from the ubuntu site burnt onto a CD and installed as per the standard installer
[19:07] <dnkbd> brb reboot
[19:08] <blkdg> Luis_, what i mean is it's not a server version of the os. it's the same one you'd use on grandmas pc right?
[19:09] <anfegame> basically i need to know how to make this command run in real time
[19:09] <Luis_> blkdg, Yes, i tried the server install foolishly thinking it had a GUI but when i was faced with terminal i just couldn't coupe, i dont know enough and find it rather frustrating
[19:10] <s0u][ight> hello, can i get rid of the left dock in unity?
[19:10] <vocx> !enter | anfegame
[19:10] <llutz> anfegame: you can't without using a rt-kernel
[19:10] <Chikokishi> I have two ubuntu loaders.  The first loader has sound but no internet and the second loader has internet but no sound.  Why do i have 2 to start with, and why are they different?
[19:10] <vocx> anfegame, what you want is real time, not high priority
[19:11] <blkdg> Luis_, grab 10.4 or 10.10 standerd 32 bit installer and try again.
[19:12] <simisu> what dose ¨cd to the directory you downloaded the tar.gz file into¨ mean? i´m trying to download a program from sourceforge and install it and it seems very compilcated to me for just running a program... can anyone help?
[19:12] <anfegame> how do i run something with real time?
[19:12] <blkdg> Luis_, the server flavour is ment for headless boxes
[19:12] <blkdg> usually
[19:12] <simisu> !cd
[19:12] <Macstheyjustsuck> When I plug in my PSP, it shows up in "Computer" but doesn't show up on the desktop and I can't open it or anything
[19:12] <vocx> simisu, what program? Usually you don't have to install programs by yourself if they are already packaged in the Ubuntu repository.
[19:13] <Luis_> blkdg, its an option but i'd have thought that after installing and reinstalling ubuntu 3 times the answer that reinstalling isn't going to cut it is pretty clear =)
[19:13] <simisu> vocx nope it´s a mudclient (geeky i know)
[19:13] <simisu> or should i find another one that is less complicated to run?
[19:14] <vocx> simisu, and you don't even know how to extract the files???
[19:14] <simisu> ummm nope... i´m a complete noob
[19:14] <vocx> simisu, you no geeky enough
[19:14] <Starminn> simisu: You remember .zip files on Windows?
[19:14] <simisu> haha
[19:14] <simisu> yes
[19:14] <Squarism> i started using solaris around 1995. It feels like "unix/linux" at its core havent moved that much since then.. sure better support for this and that.. but its the same bash, same unix gnu utilities etc.. arent there any pioneering work done to utils / scripting etc?
[19:15] <Starminn> simisu: .tar.gz is similar to those. It's a type of compressed file.
[19:15] <llutz> anfegame: if not mind possibly breaking your system: http://jackschnippes.freeunix.net/index.php/2010/11/04/lowlatency-kernel-and-realtime-kernel-for-ubuntu-10-10-maverick
[19:15] <krger> Squarism: I think they call it "Mac OS X."
[19:15] <juk> Squarism: changelogs perhaps?
[19:15] <Starminn> simisu: The command "cd" means "Change directory" and exists in Windows as well. So "Change directory to where you installed the .tar.gz" means in the Terminal type in "cd /path/to/the/tar.gz/folder
[19:16] <anfegame> really! man i dont want to do something so risky
[19:16] <juk> Squarism: you might wanna sync, catch up back from 95
[19:16] <llutz> anfegame: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RealTime
[19:16] <anfegame> is there anything that i can do to run a mic just real time
[19:16] <vocx> Squarism, well, I think Bash 4 was just released some time ago. And it has more options, but then again, nobody uses bash's true capabilities, since there is now Perl, Python, and helluva lot of programming languages.
[19:16] <simisu> ummm... ok i just found the files--- and saw there´s an Install file and ran it...
[19:16] <simisu> thanks for the explenation Starminn!
[19:16] <Starminn> simisu: All without quotes of course. So you're just moving yourself to the folder where you downloaded it to (which would probably be your Downloads folder in your Home directory. (i.e. ~/Downloads)
[19:16] <Starminn> simisu: There you go. :)
[19:17] <basy> Hi where is generated this message: "Last login: Sun Feb 20 20:12:05 ..."  i can see i when ssh to PC, i cant find it in /etc/update-motd.d/ ...  ??  Where is it from ??
[19:17] <shubbar> my cd rom is not auto mounting
[19:17] <bcgrown> can anyone help me get my rear analog channels working with Intel ALC887 sound? they don't show up in alsamixer and speaker-test gives me no output on those channels (the front channels work fine though)
[19:17] <Starminn> basy: You could grep for it to try to find it where it's at.
[19:18] <DasEi> basy: /var/log/auth
[19:18] <simisu> i was just following (or trying to anyway, the website that the file came from and of course couldn´t understand the lingo... i´ll get used to it with time right?
[19:18] <infid> anyone else here using KeepassX and noticing that your password no longer works? have versions 0.4.3 on my desktop and 0.4.1 on laptop
[19:18] <simisu> is there some vocabulary website for linux?
[19:18] <anfegame> is there any software that will allow me to run my mic live?
[19:18] <induz> hello guys I have .dmg file, how can i open it on Lucid??
[19:18] <induz> I am on gnome now
[19:18] <chang-li> erUSUL, devkit is giving me headache. I tell it not to poll devices & monitor. I plug in the usb drive and devkit gives it a device name-ie sdf1 and i can still see it in nautilus, but it's not mounted. must be a way to inhibit detection. any thoughts?
[19:19] <juk> induz: what is .dmg file?
[19:19] <DasEi> simisu: use a searchengine by basic linux commands
[19:19] <induz> is there any application to mount .dmg files
[19:19] <erUSUL> induz: you can loop mount it. is a hfs disk image file afaik
[19:19] <multiplatinum> induz,  that's a Mac file, can't be opened on Ubuntu
[19:19] <Luis_> blkdg, is the recommendation still reinstalling or are you having a think? - just wondering! =)
[19:19] <induz> i have wine  on Lucid, then , is it possible
[19:19] <erUSUL> chang-li: well the device name is given by udev. and you really want a device name for the thing....
[19:20] <warpi> DasEi, hello! when i create the share that was described on the homepage you provided me, will people all over the internet be able to access my share then, or is only in my local network?
[19:20] <warpi> https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/serverguide/C/samba-fileserver.html#samba-fileserver-installation
[19:20] <jrib> basy: check out « man login » probably
[19:20] <tsimpson> basy: it's not part of the motd, it comes from PAM
[19:20] <erUSUL> chang-li: about it not being aviable in nautilus maybe there is something you can tweak in « gconf-editor » apps>nautilus
[19:20] <bvk> how to install one specific package from 10.10 repo on a 10.04 system?
[19:20] <Starminn> simisu: This helped me considerably: http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/cli.html
[19:20] <chang-li> erUSUL, yes, granted that. but not to show up in nautilus. because if inadvertantly i hit the name in nautilus, it mounts it.
[19:21] <DasEi> warpi: you can protect it, and also by default, no, look in /etc/smb.conf, good explanations there, or even have an extra group samba
[19:21] <induz> multiplatinum, yes its Mac file[.dmg], is there any application to tranform it to open on Lucid/
[19:21] <warpi> DasEi, oki, thx
[19:21] <chang-li> erUSUL, i will look again in gconf-editor.
[19:21] <Starminn> simisu: And hear's a quick-and-dirty vocab: http://brajeshwar.com/2008/linux-vocabulary/
[19:22] <anfegame> an app to run a live mic?
[19:22] <basy> tsimpson, DasEi: looking for script that generates that message [/var/log/auth should be data for that script], i just want it more in colors :P
[19:22] <multiplatinum> induz,  afaik no
[19:22] <DasEi> warpi: fo that someone has to break in your pc first, neither inet should see your Desktop, nor sambashares
[19:22] <warpi> oki, thx
[19:22] <srk9> How do I order more Ubuntu LiveCDs?
[19:22] <Starminn> simisu: That pretty much sums it all up. The rest of things yeah you'll just learn with time. Like that .tar, .gz, and .tar.gz are the equivalent of .zip, .rar, etc. in Windows.
[19:23] <DasEi> basy: ah, no I get it, the conf-files are in /etc/ssh
[19:23] <tsimpson> basy: it's not a script, it's a plugin (library) for PAM
[19:23] <DasEi> now*
[19:23] <induz> multiplatinum, what kind of file is .dmg and how can i open it on mack as right now its on Lucid system
[19:23] <DasEi> srk9: you just d/l them
[19:23] <bullgard> KojiroAK: Ich empfehle Dir, den Podcast http://podcast-mp3.dradio.de/podcast/2011/02/19/dlf_20110219_1630_46d4dd16.mp3 anzuhören-
[19:23] <Luis_> Can anyone help?, i've just freshly installed ubuntu on my old Pentium III home file/print server and when i  enter my login details the screen goes fuzzy/pixelated and it just resets back to the log in screen
[19:23] <gbsr1> hi. so uh, i just got myself an hp dv6 second gen laptop and it has this switchable dual graphics card thing. now, ubuntu tells me that it does find drivers on that when booting up, but when installed it tells me that there are no screens, log complaining about the switchable graphics not working.
[19:24] <gbsr1> problem is, i can't select which card to use in the bios.
[19:24] <gbsr1> what do i do?
[19:24] <srk9> DasEi: I want professionally designed CDs to give away to people who are disenfranchised with Windows.
[19:24] <ikonia> Luis_: if it's resetting a common problem is no write permissions / out of disk space on /home
[19:24] <multiplatinum> induz,  when ur on ur mac u can just double click it so it installs, check my PM too btw
[19:24] <induz> multiplatinum, is it possible to copy .dmg file on a usb to take it to a mac comp
[19:24] <multiplatinum> yeah induz
[19:24] <ikonia> induz: dmg files are for apple, they are pointless on linux
[19:24] <Luis_> ikonia, it doesnt actually restart it just goes back to the login screen
[19:25] <ikonia> Luis_: the login screen is "X restarting"
[19:25] <Starminn> srk9: So get yourself a LightScribe disc drive, burn a few copies of Ubuntu LiveCDs, and have at 'em. Keep in mind you cannot charge for Ubuntu, only the CDs
[19:25] <ikonia> Luis_: a good test is to boot without X and test the login
[19:25] <juk> !info dmg2img
[19:25] <Starminn> srk9: Though let me point out that this should go in #ubuntu-offtopic
[19:25] <Luis_> ikonia, forgive my ignorance but how would i go about sorting it out
[19:25] <DasEi> srk9: http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop/get-ubuntu/cds
[19:25] <Luis_> ikonia, forgive my ignorance again but what is X
[19:25] <srk9> Starminn: While I was planning to give them away for free, I disagree about your statement about not charging. Nothing keeps you from charging for GPL software. RedHat does it all the time.
[19:26] <induz> juk is it for me
[19:26] <srk9> DasEi: "Demand for Ubuntu CDs is very high, and we're trying to ensure that we have enough CDs for those who really need one. We've noticed that you've already received CDs of several previous Ubuntu releases."
[19:26] <DasEi> Starminn:  hehe
[19:26] <ikonia> induz: dmg files are usless and pointless on linux
[19:26] <ikonia> Luis_: http://serverfault.com/questions/137776/disable-gdm-in-ubuntu-10-04
[19:26] <srk9> Starminn: Are you sure that this belongs in off-topic? This seems like a support question to me.
[19:27] <ikonia> Luis_: that explains disabling (reverse it to re-enable) gdm which stops the gui
[19:27] <Starminn> srk9: Anyway, my statement remains the same. Grab yourself a LightScribe drive and have at 'em. The discs I give ot others are plain discs. The disc I have for myself I LightScribed and love it. :)
[19:27] <juk> induz: i just take a look :)
[19:27] <DasEi> srk9: see it as joke, see link
[19:27] <ikonia> srk9: you order them from the shipit site
[19:27] <ikonia> srk9: that is the only way
[19:27] <srk9> sathis: I am having issue with a known bug: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/1
[19:27] <blkdg> Luis_, grab 10.4 or 10.10 standerd 32 bit installer and try again.
[19:27] <srk9> That was meant to go to Starminn.
[19:27] <ikonia> srk9: don't be silly in here
[19:27] <DasEi> ikonia: pm you ?
[19:27] <srk9> ikonia: The ship it site won't send me anymore.
[19:28] <ikonia> DasEi: if you need to
[19:28] <ikonia> srk9: then you are done, support on this matter is closed
[19:28] <induz> juk, I am reading about it http://mac.softpedia.com/get/Utilities/dmg2img.shtml
[19:28] <srk9> ikonia: My university has a Linux user's group. Is it possible to request them through that?
[19:28] <NinjaJeff> Is there a command to attach to a process started with the & flag?
[19:28] <Starminn> srk9:  For getting them shipped to you, yes, it is support. For redistributing them to "people who are disenfranchised with Windows," and having the "professionally-designed", that's nto Ubuntu support.
[19:28] <ikonia> srk9: ask your uni,
[19:28] <juk> induz: jee, nice
[19:28] <erUSUL> NinjaJeff: attach?
[19:28] <srk9> Starminn: My issue is bug #1.
[19:28] <Luis_> ikonia, surely if it stops the gui then all i'm left with is terminal? i can't really do much with terminal due to lack of familiarity with linux, never the less i'll try it
[19:29] <ikonia> srk9: please stop repeating that
[19:29] <erUSUL> NinjaJeff: bring it back to foreground?
[19:29] <srk9> ubottu: Yeah, that is my problem.
[19:29] <ikonia> Luis_: test the login without the gui
[19:29] <NinjaJeff> erUSUL: Yes.
[19:29] <ugmg> hi, i finish installing  Udesktop 10.4 but my eht0 no working and the insterfaces file contain this iface lo inet loopback and i am using vm
[19:29] <erUSUL> NinjaJeff: fg %N where N is the job number
[19:29] <LinuxNoob> alright guys, i need to install any version really, that supports 64bit os, 4gb ddr3. of windows on my computer, i absolutely, LOVED starcraft, and its just not the same speeds and such, i have to go back to windows for this one. can anyone lead me in the right direction? i have a win7 key on this laptop. but no cd =/ torrent an OEM version and use my key?
[19:30] <ikonia> Luis_: we don't support windows on this
[19:30] <ikonia> olops
[19:30] <gbsr1> is there a gui frontend for vgaswitcheroo by any chance?
[19:30] <LinuxNoob> starcraft2***
[19:30] <ikonia> LinuxNoob: we don't support windows here
[19:30] <ugmg> so how can i config  eth0 to be dhcp not static
[19:30] <ikonia> Luis_: sotty, not for you
[19:30] <LinuxNoob> its not really supporting windows is it? your supporting linux ubuntu
[19:31] <ikonia> ugmg: use the network manager applet gui
[19:31] <Luis_> ikonia, no worries
[19:31] <LinuxNoob> if i dont get my starcraft2 back i will have to revert x_x
[19:31] <ikonia> LinuxNoob: if you need to use windows, use it
[19:31] <ugmg> i use it but it's empty of any drive
[19:31] <NinjaJeff> I did "vi &" just to test, then tried to kill %N, but it's still up.
[19:31] <LinuxNoob> ah
[19:31] <brunner> How often does Ubuntu make packages that aren't in Debian?
[19:31] <NinjaJeff> And fg %N says no such job, but it appears in "ps"
[19:32] <erUSUL> NinjaJeff: do "jobs" in the terminal to see them
[19:32] <srk9> Let me ask another way... Shipit has refused to send me more LiveCDs for 18 months.  I just got onto a server that someone else setup, the /var/log/messages folder is full of FATAL: Cannot find modules.deb. lsmod shows blank. The reason for this as I am seeing is that the output of uname -r is not the same as the folder in /lib/modules. Is there a way to update depmod/modprobe to use this new folder?
[19:33] <srk9> ikonia: Do you have contact information?
[19:33] <srk9> For them?
[19:33] <DasEi> srk9: one last time : http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop/get-ubuntu/cds
[19:33] <ikonia> srk9: I believe it's on the website
[19:33] <ikonia> srk9: or look at DasEi's suggestion
[19:34] <srk9> DasEi: I was already there. They didn't have contact information there.
[19:34] <ugmg> ikonia, any idea
[19:34] <ikonia> ugmg: any idea with what ?
[19:34] <srk9> DasEi: I was there before I tried asking here.
[19:34] <NinjaJeff> erUSUL: Thanks a lot. :D
[19:34] <negrodario> hola
[19:34] <ugmg> how to add eth0 and make it dhcp
[19:34] <negrodario> alguna que hable español
[19:34] <NinjaJeff> Any idea why I couldn't kill the process outright?
[19:34] <mman> que paso negrodario
[19:34] <negrodario> hola che
[19:35] <ikonia> ugmg: does the network manager applet see it ?
[19:35] <ugmg> ikonia,i am using vmware and my os is guest
[19:35] <ikonia> ugmg: so ?
[19:35] <ikonia> ugmg: is't the same process
[19:35] <DasEi> srk9: you can click link to your location ?
[19:35] <negrodario> tengo xubuntu y no me funca el skype
[19:35] <dnkbd> minimec, i have a small problem..... i was connected to my wireless access point, and restarted after adding the module to /etc/modules and then it would no llonger connect with my access point but it readily connects to others
[19:35] <ikonia> !es | negrodario
[19:35] <erUSUL> NinjaJeff: no problem
[19:35] <ugmg> ikonia , now i see the net manager
[19:35] <mman> negrodario, que problema tenes
[19:35] <mman> negrodario, hablame en privado sino se van a enojar por aqui
[19:35] <ugmg> ikonia, wat next
[19:36] <ikonia> !es | negrodario
[19:36] <ikonia> ugmg: configure the device as dhcp
[19:36] <negrodario> cuando hago la prueba de llamada escucho el mensaje pero no me graba el mio, por lo tanto no me escuchan
[19:36] <juk> ubuntu es el ganador
[19:36] <d03boy> hey guys... I'm in kind of a bind. I have an old desktop machine I want to install ubuntu server on but the CD rom on it is bad. I'd like to install using USB but I only have 512MB key. Is there a minimum installation I could use?
[19:36] <negrodario> ok espera q es la 1 ves q entro aca
[19:37] <dnkbd> minimec, i have a small problem..... i was connected to my wireless access point, and restarted after adding the module to /etc/modules and then it would no llonger connect with my access point but it readily connects to others
[19:37] <minimec> dnkbd: you should be able to change the network in the network applet. It has definitly nothing to do with the /etc/modules entry. that only loads the module.
[19:37] <simisu> well i followed the steps in the installation txt but when i type in the code that supposed to open the program it say´s ¨cant read binary file¨ why?
[19:37] <ragas> Im trying to get phpmyadmin to accept larger filesize uploads.  I changed the max_upload_filesize in php.ini - the change is reflected in php -i; i restarted apache.  but its still saying 2048k is the limit.  I checed other relevant vars in php.ini as well.  what else is there?
[19:37] <srk9> DasEi: The distributors charge $5 per CD. :/
[19:37] <dnkbd> minimec, understood but when tryin to change network it just tries and tries and then says it cannot connect, i have tried to set IP's manually as well to no avail
[19:38] <erUSUL> negrodario: Escribe "/join #ubuntu-es" (sin comillas) y dale a enter para entrar en el canal en español
[19:38] <Luis_> ikonia, not having much luck, i managed to find the file and i can see the line i'm supposed to change but it wont allow me to write anything in
[19:38] <khrm> d03boy: you can use net install https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/NetbootInstallFromInternet
[19:38] <DasEi> srk9: is what you wanted, paid cd's in short time, professional make , nor ? the 8DVD for 50 also possible..
[19:39] <d03boy> khrm, but thats for a netbook. Will that turn out the same?
[19:39] <ikonia> Luis_: use sudo to launch the editor
[19:39] <d03boy> khrm, scratch that. nevermind
[19:39] <chovynz> srk9: better than 300 for one "broken" version
[19:39] <minimec> dnkbd: still no encryption on the router? I personally see no reason for that to happen.
[19:40] <dnkbd> minimec, yes still no encryption, i am boggled as well, escpecially since it readily connects to other networks
[19:40] <DasEi> srk9: I still don't get your intend, pm me or talk on in #ubuntu-offtopic
[19:40] <srk9> DasEi: I am already there.
[19:40] <erUSUL> !minimal | d03boy
[19:41] <minimec> dnkbd: if you restarted the router?
[19:41] <dnkbd> minimec, yes, but i have to go, but i will be back later
[19:41] <d03boy> erUSUL, now the other problem... I don't have internet connected when I'm installing :) ... i wonder if its possible to do an install, then SSH and finisht eh install later?
[19:41] <minimec> dnkbd: ok. cu
[19:42] <erUSUL> d03boy: really dunno
[19:42] <erUSUL> d03boy: but i doubt it
[19:42] <Luis_> ikonia, i did but it just took me into the file, didnt ask for details or anything, when i press shift Q a little command prompt comes up is there something i'm supposed to write to be able to edit the file?
[19:42] <griphown> hi, anyone ever hear about mydomedia ?
[19:42] <davesnipe360> hello
[19:42] <chovynz> erUSUL: with minimal how would you go about putting that on usb instead of cd?
[19:42] <davesnipe360> i have a problem with evolution email
[19:43] <ikonia> Luis_: what editor are you using ?
[19:43] <davesnipe360> i need to log out of it
[19:43] <davesnipe360> I need to log out of evolution email
[19:43] <davesnipe360> wut do?
[19:43] <erUSUL> chovynz: i thought about it after telling d03boy ; minimal uses alternate installer and i do not know if unetbootin works on those
[19:43] <vega-> davesnipe360: err.. close the program?
[19:43] <davesnipe360> doesnt work
[19:43] <Luis_> ikonia, the one your link recomended vi, if that's an editor at all
[19:43] <davesnipe360> veha
[19:44] <davesnipe360> vega *
[19:44] <ikonia> Luis_: if you don't know how to use an editor, best not to use it, use one you are comfortable with
[19:44] <hoss> Is the 64-bit download located under the Alternative Download section?
[19:44] <chovynz> erUSUL: Would you be able to use this method? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick
[19:44] <davesnipe360> I NEED TO LOG OUT OF THE EVOLUTION EMAIL
[19:44] <ikonia> davesnipe360: STOP SHOUTING
[19:44] <davesnipe360> k
[19:44] <davesnipe360> can u help then?
[19:45] <chovynz> davesnipe360: push teh power button
[19:45] <chovynz> that'll log you out.
[19:45] <ikonia> davesnipe360: close the mail application
[19:45] <ikonia> chovynz: easy, that's uncalled for
[19:45] <davesnipe360> i did /b/ro
[19:45] <ikonia> chovynz: help him or don't speak
[19:45] <Luis_> ikonia, i think i'd better knock it on the head then, to be honest i'm not really confortable with any editor
[19:45] <chovynz> ikonia: It is. then he can reboot.
[19:45] <hoss> Is there a stable 64-bit edition for Ubuntu?
[19:45] <ikonia> chovynz: powering off is not how to log out of mail,
[19:45] <davesnipe360> so i closed it but when i open it again, it logs back in
[19:46] <ikonia> hoss: yes, all ubuntu 64bit is stable
[19:46] <chovynz> davesnipe360: do you know how to use kill?
[19:46] <davesnipe360> no
[19:46] <ikonia> davesnipe360: you need to disable auto connect/login then, that should be in preferences
[19:46] <davesnipe360> thank you for your help
[19:46] <davesnipe360> i appreciate t
[19:46] <davesnipe360> it*
[19:46] <hoss> ikonia: where can I download it?
[19:46] <chovynz> davesnipe360: sorry. ikonia is right. im not helping with your situation.
[19:47] <ikonia> hoss: the ubuntu.com website
[19:47] <davesnipe360> kk yea
[19:47] <davesnipe360> ty ikonia
[19:47] <davesnipe360> cya /b/rotatos
[19:47] <hoss> ikonia: I am currently there.  Could you be more specific?
[19:47] <cardamon> Hi guys.  What's the bootloader on the 10.10 liveCD?
[19:47] <cardamon> It's not grub, is it?
[19:48] <ikonia> hoss: go to download
[19:48] <hoss> ikonia: and then
[19:48] <erUSUL> cardamon: i think livecds use syslinux
[19:48] <chovynz> erUSUL: So, it looks like Minimal could work using that usb method, but i've never tried it.
[19:48] <NooBoontoo> I was building this package when all  of a sudden got this message, What could be wrong hereÇ? http://pastebin.com/7CUR6yUf
[19:48] <ikonia> hoss: oh come on, if you can't read the text to find the download you are going to have a problem
[19:48] <chovynz> erUSUL: Have done with other packages but not minimal
[19:48] <erUSUL> chovynz: yes; i never tried either
[19:48] <cardamon> erUSUL: Dunno that I can do what I want with it then.  Thanks though.
[19:48] <judget> DasEi  FYI the 10.04.2 desktop works fine where the 10.10 did not
[19:48] <coz_> chovynz,   I would check on that...last I looked the minimal install cd could not be put onto a usb stick
[19:49] <DasEi> !yay | judget
[19:49] <DasEi> judget: is this a laptop ?
[19:49] <erUSUL> cardamon: what do you want to do ?
[19:49] <erUSUL> !xy
[19:50] <DasEi> judget: I ask because this occured once to me too, though a later upgrade to maverick then worked, but no direct install
[19:50] <cardamon> erUSUL: I have a relic of a Dell that won't boot to USB, apparently doesn't have anything in the BIOS to handle the USB, a liveUSB of the install I actually do want to install, and a LiveCD of 10.10
[19:51] <erUSUL> cardamon: and you can not use a cd?
[19:51] <cardamon> erUSUL: No burner.
[19:51] <judget> not this is a "built from spare parts" desktop dual P4 8oo Mhz with onboard adaptec raid
[19:51] <cardamon> A limitation of resources.
[19:52] <tracdoor> hello
[19:52] <chovynz> cardamon: What resources do you have? Do you know if the usb will work after boot?
[19:52] <brontosaurusrex> is there a software that would make cute jpg snapshot of pages? like thumbnails
[19:52] <chovynz> cardamon: And do you have net access on that machine?
[19:52] <zerty> hello what is the default ftp server in ubuntu ?
[19:52] <GeekMan> if i was to run the command udisks --poll-for-media /dev/hdc would i put that under fstab
[19:52] <mman> zerty, there is no default ftp server
[19:52] <cardamon> chovynz: Yes and yes.  But I don't know how do a netboot.
[19:53] <zerty> on ubuntu server edition
[19:53] <GeekMan> i need that to run each time i load a disk and eject on
[19:53] <tracdoor> HOW DO I RUN MY MP3 FILES
[19:53] <chovynz> cardamon: So usb will work after boot, but not on or before boot?
[19:53] <erUSUL> chovynz: pxe boot?
[19:53] <GeekMan> you need the ubuntu restricted plugins tracdoor
[19:53] <erUSUL> !install | cardamon
[19:53] <cardamon> chovynz: Yes.  It need the OS to handle the device.
[19:53] <erUSUL> !codecs | tracdoor
[19:54] <DasEi> tracdoor: stop shouting, install vlc
[19:54] <zerty> hello anyone there ?
[19:54] <zerty> hello what is the default ftp server in ubuntu ?
[19:54] <DasEi> zerty: hi zerty
[19:54] <Dr_Willis> zerty: there is no default one.. theres several in the repos you coul dinstall.
[19:54] <jrib> zerty: there is no default ftp server
[19:54] <erUSUL> zerty: none
[19:55] <Dr_Willis> zerty:   i suggest learning touse ssh and forget ftp ever existed
[19:55] <zerty> i got ubuntu server
[19:55] <magnetron> zerty: https://help.ubuntu.com/8.04/serverguide/C/ftp-server.html
[19:55] <chovynz> cardamon: The reason I ask, is that I've also had similar installation probs. limited resources, no cd/nocd burner, didn't know how to install from net. Do you have access to another computer or only the one?
[19:55] <GeekMan> are you talking about your updates servers (repositories)
[19:55] <erUSUL> zerty: Dr_Willis is right ftp is a relic from the 80's ;P
[19:55] <zerty> thanks magnet
[19:55] <GeekMan> i gtg
[19:55] <Dr_Willis> ftp is beyond a relic.. :)
[19:56] <khrm> cardamon: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromWindows or https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromLinux This page describes installing from harddisk.
[19:56] <cardamon> chovynz: I have the dell relic, my netbook (which I'm talking to you from), and a connection from one to the other if only I can navigate the router.
[19:56] <JustCJs> I was wondering if it is possible to use vesafb in conjunction with the oss Radeon driver. I had to disable KMS due to issues with brightness, but would nevertheless like to have a fb device
[19:56] <zerty> i got this error at the end
[19:56] <chovynz> cardamon: what os is netbook?
[19:56] <zerty>  postgresql-8.4
[19:56] <zerty>  postgresql
[19:56] <JustCJs> its perhaps a silly questoin ;z
[19:56] <zerty> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[19:56] <FloodBot3> zerty: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:57] <zerty> during the installation of vsftpd
[19:57] <JustCJs> *opensource Radeon driver
[19:57] <Dr_Willis> JustCJs:  should be possible. but ive seen in the past where the framebuffer has issues with some X drivers. try it an dsee.
[19:57] <JustCJs> Dr_Willis:   thanks a lot ;)
[19:57] <chovynz> cardamon: oh wait, that wont help.
[19:58] <Dr_Willis> zerty:   sudo apt-get update, upgrade, try again.. if it still has issues check the bug reports.. and/or try a differnt ftp server.
[19:58] <kurt__> How can I upgrade Ubuntu Desktop to Ubuntu Netbook edition?
[19:58] <chovynz> cardamon: ok. So your Dell has access to the Net right? Do you know if it connects or is just wired up? (btw, wireless or wired?)
[19:58] <anfegame> anyone can help me with the mic problem?
[19:58] <Dr_Willis> zerty:  best answer is to use ssh and forget about ftp.
[19:58] <khrm> d03boy you can use install from harddisk method as describe here depending upon what Os you are using currently :  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromLinux or https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromWindows
[19:58] <zerty> well is it really necessary to install update and to upgrade everytime ?
[19:59] <cardamon> chovynz: wired.
[19:59] <kurt__> How can I upgrade Ubuntu Desktop to Ubuntu Netbook edition?
[19:59] <Dr_Willis> zerty:  if you want to trouble shoot the issue.. yes its a step you should do
[19:59] <cardamon> chovynz: And yes, it does have a Boot to Lan option.
[19:59] <zerty> coz the problem come since during the update
[19:59] <zerty> sorry since when i upgrade things on my server
[19:59] <chovynz> cardamon: is legacy usb turned on in bios? What is bios? (name and version)
[19:59] <juk> zerty: just get a cat, give on admining
[20:00] <zamba> where has the fixed font gone?
[20:00] <chovynz> cardamon: just so you know, i don't actually have any answers for you at this stage, im attempting to help you troubleshoot it, so that we can get you up and running.
[20:00] <cardamon> chovynz: No, it's not.  The OS has to run it, afaik.  And can't get you the bios name just yet...give me five  minutes.
[20:00] <cardamon> trying something.
[20:01] <zerty> cat on admining ?
[20:01]  * chovynz goes back to being away
[20:03] <cardamon> chovynz: Oh, and the dell  already has 10.10 on there.  But that's not what I want.
[20:04] <simisu> do i need to manually assign a swap partition?
[20:04] <kurt__> How can I upgrade Ubuntu Desktop to Ubuntu Netbook edition?
[20:06] <ohsix> kurt__: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-netbook
[20:06] <Dr_Willis> kurt__:  thats not really a 'upgrade' just an install...
[20:06] <kurt__> Thx
[20:06] <ohsix> it's not an upgrade persay, but it will bring everything in as if you installed the netbook edition, and you'll be able to pick the netbook session on the login screen
[20:09] <Guest44846> exit
[20:13] <puspendu> hiiii
[20:13] <puspendu> all
[20:13] <mkanyicy> hi puspendu
[20:13] <puspendu> helo
[20:13] <mkanyicy> !ask | puspendu
[20:14] <puspendu> m new in dis ookkeis
[20:14] <hazzarux> !english | puspendu
[20:14] <puspendu> actuly m new i here
[20:14] <hazzarux> puspendu: stop speaking gibberish, please.
[20:15] <puspendu> m speaking in english
[20:15] <mkanyicy> hazzarux, calm down
[20:15] <puspendu> do u understand
[20:15] <bc81> puspendu: ask your ubuntu related question, or go to #ubuntu-offtopic please
[20:16] <puspendu> what is unity ?
[20:16] <ardian>  Is it a big problem if you change your hostname ?
[20:16] <bc81> !info unity | puspendu
[20:16] <puspendu> thnku
[20:17] <hazzarux> mkanyicy: i am calm.
[20:17] <bc81> ardian: not that big of problem, i have done it before once..a bigger problem if you change user account names
[20:17] <puspendu> is there any video calling software in ubuntu ?
[20:17] <ardian> ou okay
[20:17] <erUSUL> !hostname | ardian
[20:18] <erUSUL> puspendu: ekiga, empathy and skype is aviable too
[20:18] <mkanyicy> puspendu, skype
[20:18] <ardian> Thank you erUSUL
[20:18] <FSX> The default printing GUI in Xubuntu is a bit limited. Is there an alternative?
[20:18] <puspendu> thnku mkanyicy
[20:18] <puspendu> :)
[20:19] <ohsix> FSX: you mean the printer configuration? the ui in apps for printing should be the same regardless of the DE (as long as it's gtk)
[20:20] <FSX> ohsix: I mean the GUI you see when you print a photo for example. My parents are not happy with the default one.
[20:21] <ohsix> FSX: you might need to look to another app thats printing the picture and hope its changes to the dialogue suffice
[20:21] <ohsix> FSX: the print preview stuff is weird in firefox tho, can't do much about that
[20:21] <hazzarux> FSX: i don't know.. but ... maybe.. are these different in GNOME vs. KDE?
[20:22] <FSX> ohsi, hazzarux: Is it possible to replace the default one?
[20:22] <ohsix> they're different, but not much; if they're not happy with the existing one it's probably a bug, or they're nuts
[20:23] <arkani> where do I should look to make XCHAT open 2 irc hanels at startup?
[20:23] <YankDownUnder> #xchat -or- read the docs
[20:23] <hazzarux> FSX: yes you can replace gnome by kde. (never done that, but already have had the idea). sudo apt-get install kde & then choose KDE @login screen.
[20:23] <FSX> ohsix: I can say they're not nuts. ;) My mom prints a lot of photos and it's not easy enough to place multiple photos on one page without using an image editor.
[20:23] <hazzarux> !info kde | FSX
[20:24] <KM0201> !info kubuntu | FSX
[20:24] <hazzarux> !info kubuntu-desktop | FSX
[20:24] <KM0201> !info kubuntu-desktop
[20:24] <KM0201> :)
[20:24] <ohsix> FSX: ya, that's why i'm saying you should sooner look to an app that's better at printing photos
[20:24] <FSX> hazzarux: I meant the printing GUI. I know Python. Maybe it's possible to replace it?
[20:25] <FSX> ohsix: k
[20:25] <kdcisit> Hello, I am trying to connect Ekiga to an Avaya VOIP system over h323.  Ekiga won't pass the number to the Avaya system during auth.  Any ideas or alternatives for h323 connection?
[20:25] <ohsix> FSX: something that lets you arrange photos on the paper or something, that's not a job for the print dialogue proper
[20:25] <hazzarux> FSX: which printing GUI are we speaking of? GNOME's?
[20:25] <chovynz> cardamon: What are you trying to achieve?
[20:25] <FSX> hazzarux: Xubuntu
[20:25] <simisu> do i need to manually assign a swap partition? in the instalation it didn´t ask me anything about that...
[20:26] <ohsix> FSX: unfortunately the only app i know personally that does that, is picasa :\
[20:26] <cardamon> chovynz: Install the build I have on this one iso.
[20:26] <erUSUL> simisu: the installer should just create one for you
[20:26] <YankDownUnder> Swap partitions will get setup and assigned automagically.
[20:26] <FSX> ohsix: Ok, I'll probably try to make something myself then.
[20:26] <chovynz> cardamon: custom build or regular?
[20:27] <ohsix> FSX: you could install them all and let the parents pick :]
[20:27] <simisu> erUSUL so if i actually made a partition and dedicated a whole space for that... is it actually using that?
[20:27] <erUSUL> simisu: you did manual partitioning ?
[20:27] <simisu> yes
[20:27] <FSX> ohsix: hehe, they don't have time to try things. It just has to work. Can't do much about that.
[20:28] <cardamon> regular, but it's another buntu variant, so I'm not asking for support.
[20:28] <erUSUL> FSX: tried gthumb ?
[20:28] <cardamon> Hmm.
[20:28] <hazzarux> Evening, ppl. i'm gone. see y'all next time. Gotta be studying German tomorrow :D so probably tuesday :)
[20:28] <erUSUL> !info gthumb
[20:28] <hilarie> Is it just me, or does this seem like a bad idea? ---How To Use Keygen----------------
[20:28] <hilarie>   -Open a terminal and 'cd' to the directory containing the keygen
[20:28] <hilarie>   -Run: sudo chmod +x vmware-keygen_x86_64
[20:28] <hilarie>   -Run: ./vmware-keygen_x86_64
[20:28] <FSX> erUSUL: No, will try.
[20:28] <FloodBot3> hilarie: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:28] <simisu> thing is i´m finding the fresh ubuntu install much slower then the windows... could it be because it´s running from an external HDD with usb2?
[20:28] <hilarie> bleh, sorry, I thought I deleted the enter character thingies
[20:29] <YankDownUnder> gnome-photo-printer
[20:29] <cardamon> chovynz: It's a "Dell Dimension 2350 Bios version A01" for the record.
[20:29] <ohsix> FSX: shotwell and f-spot are on the shortlist, but only because i don't know of any others :D
[20:29] <hazzarux> !info vmware-keygen
[20:30] <FSX> ohsix: I tried Shotwell. Printing is a bit limited.
[20:30] <FSX> ohsix: You can only adjust the size of the image.
[20:30] <ohsix> ah, dang
[20:30] <simisu> thing is i´m finding the fresh ubuntu install much slower then the windows... could it be because it´s running from an external HDD with usb2?
[20:30] <cardamon> chovynz: Legacy USB is on in the bios.
[20:30] <chovynz> cardamon: :( no chance of flashing to something more friendly?
[20:30] <chovynz> ;)
[20:30] <erUSUL> simisu: well usb2 is certainly slower than sata/pata
[20:31] <hazzarux> !info feh | FSX
[20:31] <hazzarux> FSX: you could try this ^
[20:31] <ohsix> his parents are definitely not going to be able to use feh, even if its printing is awesome
[20:32] <hazzarux> ohsix: can be.
[20:32] <simisu> but would that make a difference in webbrowsing or more heavy stuff... if it´s like that i might have to actually install it on the computer (although all i have are about 6 gigs... not much to go with no?)
[20:32]  * 13WAA6LW9 ñêîðî áóäó: Gone away for now
[20:32] <PointMan> how can I force an installation by aptitude?
[20:32] <hazzarux> !info gqview | FSX
[20:33] <aeon-ltd> PointMan: read its man pages, man apt-get, but iirc its -f
[20:33] <DasEi> PointMan: more details , force what (geneal bad idea)
[20:33] <DasEi> ?
[20:33] <Guinness2702> Everytime I restart apache I see "apache2: Could not reliably determine the server's fully qualified domain name, using <IP_ADDRESS> for ServerName" - can anybody tell me how I prevent/fix that?
[20:33] <PointMan> DasEi: nm
[20:33] <aeon-ltd> simisu: what would make a difference?
[20:34] <FSX> hazzarux: Thanks for the suggestions.
[20:34] <Grishnackh666> hi there
[20:34] <cardamon> chovynz: I found a liveCD I'd made the boots to GRUB for another insstall.
[20:35] <ohsix> FSX: good luck, picasa is available for linux; just not in the repos
[20:35] <mman> Guinness2702, i think you have to change an option in /etc/apache2/
[20:35] <hazzarux> !info mirage | FSX
[20:35] <FSX> ohsix: Do you perhaps know if there's a Printing API for Python in Ubuntu?
[20:35] <simisu> aeon-ltd i´m guessing if i ran ubuntu from the sata harddrive and not the external HDD it would be faster no? (not having to work through usb)
[20:35] <Grishnackh666> i have 2 NICs in my mythbuntu box, and i want to join 2 seperated networks without any routing. i thought this would be default by connecting, but my neighbor said he has access on the machines in the other network..how is this possible?
[20:35] <mman> Guinness2702, i think you have to change an option in /etc/apache2/apache2.conf
[20:35] <cardamon> But I can't seem to find the USB drive on it, which makes me think that this grub isn't configured for it and the bios isn't loading the usb.
[20:36] <chovynz> cardamon: sorry man im kinda running out of steam here. Without actually physically being there Ive found it hard to think through the issue I had and how i solved them. Basically, I don't really know how to do this without the usb working from boot.
[20:36] <Guinness2702> mman, yeah, but I can't figure out what - the Internet tells me to set ServerName to match my hostname, but I have virtual hosts, and I don't want anything on http://myhost/
[20:36] <simisu> i´m getting bleed on the screen and really choppy performance... i´m very dissapointed after all the hard work i put into simply installing the OS!
[20:37] <aeon-ltd> simisu: yes, read and write speeds would be much faster, but once an apllication that doesn't require much r/w, its all in the ram and thats the same
[20:37] <chovynz> cardamon:  cuz you have no burner, but you do have net, so net install is an option. (I think). Have you tried isntalling from teh HD after bootup?
[20:37] <chovynz> *installing, the
[20:37] <mman> Guinness2702, you have to do it under each vhost
[20:37] <DasEi> FSX: depends on the printer, but there are some , look at apt-cache search print | grep python
[20:37] <chovynz> cardamon: ok let me rephrase that. How important is the information on that Dell to you?
[20:37] <Guinness2702> mman, all of my vhosts have ServerName directives
[20:37] <aeon-ltd> simisu: what specification is your pc?
[20:37] <Ganymede> Guinness2702, You will have to set a vhost for the default hostname and show a blank page. otherwise, you'll have to do something IP-based and don't listen on the IP that matches your fqdn.
[20:38] <FSX> DasEi: Ok, will do that.
[20:38] <ohsix> FSX: if there is it won't be able to do what you're looking to do
[20:38] <simisu> intel celron 2.4ghz 256mb ddr sdram
[20:38] <FSX> ohsix: Why not?
[20:38] <Guinness2702> Surely apache will allow me to have *only* vhosts, and not insist that I have "myhost" as a site :\
[20:39] <Guinness2702> Ganymede, Surely apache will allow me to have *only* vhosts, and not insist that I have "myhost" as a site :\
[20:39] <simisu> although i think it actually has 500mb ddr...
[20:39] <DasEi> FSX: picking up your initial questions, as of printing guis I have good experiences with hp and cannon, else see above, need apps which provide them
[20:39] <ohsix> FSX: the print dialogue isn't the place to arrange photos and stuff, it needs to be done by the app before that
[20:39] <Ganymede> Is it normal that any 2d desktop operation (scrolling windows) is a lot slower on 3200x1080 than it is on 1280x800, even when said window is the same size?
[20:39] <mman> Guinness2702, yup, that is true, and actually i think you have to use your host, but you can redirect it to any vhost
[20:39] <aeon-ltd> simisu: then the ram's the limit, and i'm assuming integrated gpu
[20:39] <jrib> Ganymede: you might also try #httpd
[20:39] <aeon-ltd> simisu: still i'd opt in to a lighter window manager or desktop environment like xfce/lxde
[20:40] <Ganymede> Guinness2702, see what jrib said to me above
[20:40] <jrib> Ganymede: oops, sorry about that
[20:40] <FSX> ohsix: My mom just needs to be able to select a few photos in THunar and then print them (on one page or something else). I can make a GUI for that.
[20:40] <Guinness2702> Ganymede, jrib I tried #apache - nobody there
[20:40] <ohsix> FSX: i suppose, but that's something different entirely :]
[20:41] <simisu> so how come windows is running just ¨fine¨?
[20:41] <jrib> Guinness2702: #httpd, not #apache (though the topic in #apache tells you about #httpd too0
[20:41] <barbaz> Guinness2702, try #httpd to find apache users
[20:41] <Guinness2702> k, guess I should have guess that - thanks all :)
[20:41] <FSX> ohsix: Yea ^^
[20:42] <Ganymede> Guinness2702, Apache is software foundation, of which one of their software is the webserver.
[20:43] <aeon-ltd> simisu: different constraints, depending on software something can seem fast or slow, gnome is pretty fat to be honest, i mean just by viewing (no actual scientific recordings) a pentium 3 could seem faster than a i5 just by changing the software - gnome with compiz is more like vista with full effects, gnome with metacity without the effects and the performance difference for 99% of machines is insane
[20:44] <greenmanzana> Hello :D
[20:44] <simisu> aeon-ltd to be quite honest i can´t follow you...
[20:44] <aeon-ltd> greenmanzana: hi
[20:45] <Yerushalmi> I'm on Ubuntu Netbook Edition, and so my desktop isn't normal gnome but rather this Unity-style thing. Thursday night I ran an update, and Friday morning upon turning on the computer I find I only have the desktop background, which blinks grey occasionally. I have the upper black bar with the time, and keyboard commands help me open programs, but I don't have a desktop. Can anyone help?
[20:45] <simisu> geez... i thought this wouldn´t be as hard
[20:45] <mOHawk> simisu: i was wondering what version of windows can you run with 256 mb ddr ram?
[20:46] <simisu> another whole day spent just to realize it´s a big FAIL  :o(
[20:47] <simisu> it´s windows xp
[20:47] <slashroot> how Can i open eclipse frmo user X if it was only installed on user Y?
[20:47] <BluesKaj> mOHawk, XP will run but slowlu, Xubuntu will be much faster
[20:47] <aeon-ltd> simisu: ok, lesson/philosophy, the software is almost always the problem - better written (those who aim for the least amount of lines of code for a function) software can perform better on the same system than with poorly written code. in this case its usage of software thats the problem - right now you use gnome(stock ubuntu desktop) which is heavy if you use xubuntu (different software, same core) it will seem faster
[20:47] <simisu> and i had loads of important stuff to do... mah...
[20:47] <ilovefairuz> slashroot: installed using apt or  manaually?
[20:47] <aeon-ltd> simisu: as well as be faster/lighter on your hardware
[20:47] <slashroot> manually (helios)
[20:48] <Grishnackh666> i have 2 NICs in my mythbuntu box, and i want to join 2 seperated networks without any routing. i thought this would be default by connecting, but my neighbor said he has access on the machines in the other network..how is this possible?
[20:48] <simisu> aeon-ltd so what you´re telling me is to try a different distro? name Xubunto for example?
[20:49] <ilovefairuz> slashroot: can you access her/his home directory? just browse to it and click the binary
[20:49] <mOHawk> BluesKaj: the last computer i had with 256mb ram was tandy 1000 and ran dos 3.1 or something like that lol
[20:49] <mo3r> who is here
[20:49] <ohsix> aeon-ltd: seem faster? that sounds like a guess
[20:49] <Starminn> simisu: Allow me to just say that my system came with XP Media Center (highest) and 512MB DDR2 RAM. Running UBuntu was at LEAST 4 times faster than XP. Now that I have 5GB of RAM XP is actually usable. -- IT's probably not Ubuntu, it's just the RAM.  What they're saying though is that Ubuntu has some variations on it for lighter machines. Xubuntu looks like Ubuntu but is a lot lighter/easier on the machine.
[20:49] <aeon-ltd> simisu: yes, but you don't have to reinstall, you can just remove the gnome stuff and install xubuntu packages. btw google around for other window managers/ desktop environments you might like that are light; personally i'd choose lxde
[20:49] <abstrakt> so I'm playing around with ack-grep
[20:50] <ilovefairuz> mo3r: what's your question?
[20:50] <abstrakt> really nice, it's got an option for --pager
[20:50] <abstrakt> --pager=more --pager=less
[20:50] <aeon-ltd> ohsix: logically it would be faster but bugs might occur that hinder performance
[20:50] <Starminn> simisu: http://www.xubuntu.org/
[20:50] <abstrakt> ilovefairuz, he seems to be spamming everyone, I'd ignore him
[20:50] <slashroot> unfortunately its not there.
[20:50] <abstrakt> if i use --pager=less there's no colors
[20:50] <randy__> @search tech manual
[20:50] <ohsix> aeon-ltd: logic has nothing to do with guessing
[20:50] <abstrakt> if I use --pager=more
[20:50] <abstrakt> there's colors
[20:50] <abstrakt> but more seems to suck more than less
[20:50] <randy__> @seek tech manual
[20:50] <abstrakt> lol, pun intended
[20:50] <FloodBot3> abstrakt: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:50] <mo3r> hello all americans0
[20:50] <aeon-ltd> ohsix: its not guessing its inferring
[20:51] <Ganymede> Speaking of pagers, I use less. I'd like the ability to search with wraparound (/ and ? apparently don't wrap around) AND so that when I jump to the next match, it places it at the center of the screen and not at the top so I can see before and after. Any ideas?
[20:51] <abstrakt> are there any yet better options for pagers than less or more
[20:51] <ohsix> aeon-ltd: unless you're arugment is ad absurdum and a computer doing nothing is objectively better, because it's appears to do nothing, very fast
[20:51] <ohsix> aeon-ltd: inferences are based on sets of evidence, a guess isn't evidence
[20:52] <barbaz> abstrakt, i cant say that it is better but you can try if "most" is good for your use cases
[20:52] <abstrakt> Ganymede, but are there other options available for pagers other than more or less
[20:52] <abstrakt> barbaz, ok i just want to know what other options there are
[20:52] <abstrakt> i don't care about good or best, i'll evaluate that for myself :)
[20:52] <Ganymede> abstrakt, Yeah, I'm open to others...I heard about "most" but i don't recall it's featureset off hand...
[20:53] <abstrakt> ahh, excellent, most is what I needed :)
[20:53] <Ganymede> abstrakt, The most pager web site leaves much to be desired.
[20:53] <abstrakt> it's weird... more *says* it will scroll backwards, but it won't
[20:54] <abstrakt> the keys are b and CTRL-B
[20:54] <justinsane> does anyone have experience reformatting hdd's?
[20:54] <justinsane> I am trying to reformat my harddrive. At the command prompt i typed "fdisk /dev/hdb" and I got Unable to open /dev/sda'
[20:54] <DasEi> abstrakt: you can pipe many things to text or html for convienient browsing
[20:54] <abstrakt> supposedly, but they don't work, I can only scroll down
[20:54] <aeon-ltd> ohsix: ok back up here. point no.1 current system software = too heavy, lighter software = lighter duh. meaning that lessening the load on the components meaning it can actually process properly without slowdowns hence its more usable and usage is much faster for the user
[20:54] <simisu> Starminn but it could also be the fact that it´s running throguh usb no?
[20:54] <abstrakt> DasEi, yes I understand but this is a tad faster and easier
[20:54] <Starminn> simisu: Oh, you mean you have'nt installed it yet?
[20:54] <abstrakt> DasEi, I do that sometimes
[20:54] <ohsix> aeon-ltd: "too heavy" sounds like an opinion, or in patently silly circumstance anyways
[20:54] <ohsix> aeon-ltd: it's not too heavy here
[20:54] <simisu> anyway guys... thanks a lot for the input... but i´ve been starving my self trying to finish up with this and no i have to go to eat...
[20:54] <DasEi> abstrakt: say lspci, so faster.. easier, sure :
[20:55] <abstrakt> oh hell yeah, most has split windows
[20:55] <abstrakt> this is leet
[20:55] <simisu> yes it´s installed
[20:55] <simisu> on an external drive
[20:55] <ohsix> aeon-ltd: but at the same time its too heavy for a 486 with 4mb of ram
[20:55] <ohsix> aeon-ltd: but there is a large gulf between here and there
[20:55] <DasEi> abstrakt: sudo lspci | lspci.txt && gedit lspci.txt
[20:55] <aeon-ltd> ohsix: its relative. but for simisu's system it is too heavy
[20:55] <Starminn> simisu: That will definitely slow it down. Remember that until you install it the only thing you're using is the speed of the external device. So on a CD it's going to run only as fast as your CD drive can read (which usually isn't very fast) and on USB it's as fast as your computer can read the flash drive.
[20:55] <abstrakt> DasEi, sudo lspci | most
[20:55] <justinsane> what is the best way to reformat my hard drive?
[20:55] <abstrakt> is a lot faster to type
[20:56] <hazzarux> justinsane: GParted for life!
[20:56] <abstrakt> anyway I'm not dealwing with lspci
[20:56] <abstrakt> like I said before I'm dealing with ack-grep
[20:56] <Starminn> simisu: It's not installed on your computer is what I'm saying so it will run about half as fast as it would if installed.
[20:56] <ohsix> aeon-ltd: simisu has other problems
[20:56] <justinsane> hazzarux: thanks
[20:56] <stephenmac7> Hello, I am having problems installing the wl driver from jockey and kpackagekit. I get the installArchives() failed error in jockey
[20:56] <abstrakt> DasEi, lspci doesn't have colored output, either
[20:56] <aeon-ltd> Starminn: it won't actually for basic applications, majority of the system loads into ram
[20:56] <abstrakt> "most" in this case is the best option and specifically suited for what I want
[20:56] <aeon-ltd> ohsix: yes, sorry for steering it slightly offtopic
[20:56] <abstrakt> DasEi, I know how to redirect to a text file, that's not what I want
[20:56] <abstrakt> context
[20:56] <abstrakt> it's important
[20:57] <Starminn> aeon-ltd: Maybe my computer is the exception to the rule but on a LiveCD 80% of programs load at half the speed.
[20:57] <ohsix> aeon-ltd: i hope you realize the practical difference between xubuntu/lubuntu and the full thing is very small in actual use, chances are xubuntu/lubuntu will even be unacceptable if the whole thing is already
[20:57] <simisu> simisu has lots of problems... time being one of them... i really do appriciate all your time people, thank you and good bye!
[20:57] <Yerushalmi> I'm on Ubuntu Netbook Edition, and so my desktop isn't normal gnome but rather this Unity-style thing. Thursday night I ran an update, and Friday morning upon turning on the computer I find I only have the desktop background picture, and it keeps blinking grey. The upper black bar with the time and open programs appears normal, and keyboard commands help me open programs, but I don't have a...
[20:57] <abstrakt> DasEi, E from within most opens EDITOR
[20:57] <Yerushalmi> ...desktop. Can anyone help?
[20:57] <Starminn> aeon-ltd: Maybe not quite half but they run at about 60% of performance as opposed to loading it from my HDD
[20:57] <abstrakt> DasEi, by the way
[20:57] <tonycrete1991f> Hello there, I am trying to transfer files to a jailbroken iPhone from a computer running xUbuntu and ive installed libmobiledevice though my iphone does not mount
[20:57] <tonycrete1991f> any ideas?
[20:58] <aeon-ltd> Starminn: heh, not everything is loaded. also scratch space is needed for some applications and if ram is being used and a hdd is unvailable ram needs to be juggled (loaded and offloaded) to keep up
[20:58] <ohsix> Starminn: it would be weird if that were true; after they've started it should be the same for both
[20:58] <abstrakt> Starminn, put your "LiveCD" on a USB flash drive :)
[20:58] <abstrakt> Starminn, I'll never install from CD again if I can help it, USB is way faster
[20:58] <stephenmac7> This channel moved too quickly
[20:58] <abstrakt> stephenmac7, it does that
[20:58] <Starminn> abstrakt: While my BIOS has a setting to boot from USB it never is able to do it. *shrug*
[20:58] <sacc> jkd
[20:59] <stephenmac7> I cannot get an answer to my questions like that!
[20:59] <abstrakt> Starminn, ahh, bummer... get a computer that doesn't suck :P
[20:59] <abstrakt> stephenmac7, so use the forums
[20:59] <Starminn> ohsix: Eh, who knows. I probably just don't spend enough time on it for the RAM caching to take place. (if "Cache" is the right term)
[20:59] <aeon-ltd> ohsix: gnome with compiz vs xfce, is more than enough to make a difference on the system in question. but yes unless a large difference is made - e.g start from server and use a standalone window manager. savings seem minimal
[20:59] <Starminn> abstrakt: :)
[20:59] <stephenmac7> I need the answer instantly and not have to wait 4-5 years for it
[21:00] <aeon-ltd> !patience | stephenmac7
[21:00] <ohsix> aeon-ltd: compiz is faster in practical interaction than a plain noncomposited desktop
[21:00] <Ganymede> Maybe you can pay for support from Canonical.
[21:00] <tux_> is it just me or does anyone else think Empathy is REALLY awful
[21:00] <aeon-ltd> ohsix: heh try telling that to a tiling window manager user with several shortcuts defined
[21:00] <aeon-ltd> tux_: thats offtopic
[21:01] <ohsix> aeon-ltd: even on an old k6-2 i had with some ati card in it, it faster than just regular metacity
[21:01] <tux_> aeon-ltd, bite me
[21:01] <abstrakt> lol @ stephenmac7
[21:01] <ohsix> aeon-ltd: that's another argument from absurdity; we're not talking about contrived scenarios here
[21:01]  * aeon-ltd takes a bite out of tux_
[21:01] <abstrakt> "i need an answer instantly!"
[21:01] <Gwar_Trolle> Can anyone recomend a GUI program to check CPU temps?
[21:01] <abstrakt> stephenmac7, and I need a unicorn
[21:01] <BlueBomber7> ohsix: You're leaving out tiling window managers. Try xmonad or ratpoison :)
[21:01] <tux_> aeon-ltd, do you like my rocky road lumps?
[21:01] <tonycrete1991f> Hello there, I am trying to transfer files to a jailbroken iPhone from a computer running xUbuntu and ive installed libmobiledevice though my iphone does not mount
[21:01] <stephenmac7> Don't we all :/
[21:01] <Ganymede> Gwar_Trolle, I think there's a panel applet for that.
[21:01] <xangua> !sensors | Gwar_Trolle
[21:01] <ohsix> BlueBomber7: i'm not leaving anything out, my grandmother isn't going to use xmonad or ratpoison
[21:02] <tux_> pidgin > empathy
[21:02] <aeon-ltd> ohsix: whatever. i'm gonna stop here before the idea of helping simisu gets lost
[21:02] <abstrakt> stephenmac7, point being the urgency of your problem doesn't impress anyone and really when you complain that your problem is urgent you're complaining that your time is more valuable than ours
[21:02] <abstrakt> stephenmac7, that's not a very nice thing to say
[21:02] <ohsix> aeon-ltd: simisu needs more than you can give him, he needs to obliterate a lot of things to get it to an acceptable level
[21:02] <BlueBomber7> ohsix: Why not? Mine uses Xubuntu....
[21:02] <Ganymede> *sigh* Is no one's grandmother a power user/epic programmer and Linux expert?
[21:02] <ohsix> aeon-ltd: and whats left still might not be acceptable
[21:02] <abstrakt> stephenmac7, if your time is really that valuable, then just pay someone to fix your problem... but don't ask in here for who to pay, this is not the place
[21:02] <ohsix> BlueBomber7: tiling window managers.
[21:03] <BlueBomber7> ohsix: Yeah... so what?
[21:03] <ohsix> BlueBomber7: mine uses ubuntu proper, just fine
[21:03] <ohsix> BlueBomber7: yea so you missed the entire point, nevermind
[21:03] <BlueBomber7> ohsix: K.
[21:03] <tonycrete1991f> does xubuntu mounts devices automaticaly?
[21:03] <abstrakt> tonycrete1991f, try it and see
[21:04] <mkanyicy> tonycrete1991f, it can
[21:04] <mkanyicy> tonycrete1991f, how can we help you?
[21:04] <abstrakt> tell him how to make it automount devices
[21:04] <abstrakt> I would presume
[21:05] <aeon-ltd> simisu: ok, my best suggestion if you have 1 hour, is to start from server or use a lighter distro
[21:05] <mkanyicy> abstrakt, lol
[21:06] <Aranel> why can't I see my BH-214 bluetooth headset on Bluetooth devices? My dongle works (I can connect to my N900) and BH-214 also works (I can connect to it from N900), what's wrong?
[21:07] <w1n5ton> Yo
[21:07] <w1n5ton> I need some help
[21:07] <w1n5ton> How do I mount an ecryptfs filesystem from an external hard drive?
[21:09] <kas> Hello everyone!  I was wondering if someone could offer me some guidance in troubleshooting my microphone jack issue.  I have a Dell E6400 that has a mic built into the monitor and a microphone jack.  I cannot get the jack to work.
[21:10] <Stereocaulon> is there anyone who can point me to a good explanation on  fuse and upstart? I've been using Ubuntu since 4.10 and I need to understand my system again :o)
[21:10] <uRock> kas, System> Preferences> Sound, then select the hardware you are wanting to use
[21:10] <uRock> !fuse
[21:10] <uRock> !upstart
[21:10] <w1n5ton> .ecryptfs
[21:11] <w1n5ton> !ecryptfs
[21:11] <Stereocaulon> uRock, thx for those quick pointers, should have know that they would haven been included in ubottu
[21:12] <uRock> Stereocaulon, welcome. I have no clue on the subjects, but was hoping those links might be helpful
[21:12] <Yerushalmi> I'm on Ubuntu Netbook Edition, and so my desktop isn't normal gnome but rather this Unity-style thing. Thursday night I ran an update, and Friday morning upon turning on the computer I find I only have the desktop background picture, and it keeps blinking grey. The upper bar with the time and open programs appears normal, and keyboard commands help me open programs, but I don't have a...
[21:12] <Yerushalmi> ...desktop. Help
[21:12] <Stereocaulon> uRock, they certainly are, thx again
[21:12] <Yerushalmi> !
[21:13] <uRock> Yerushalmi, are you using Natty?
[21:13] <mjs_> hi all
[21:14] <Yerushalmi> uRock: I'm on 10.04.
[21:14] <mjs_> 2 ??S  about maverick-amd64
[21:14] <Stereocaulon> kas, whether the mic. is builtin into your screen or not does normally not matter. It's the tangle of sound layers that are probably responsible.
[21:14] <uRock> !ask | mjs
[21:14] <Mimosita_linux> hola?
[21:14] <Stereocaulon> kas, !es | Mimosita_linux
[21:15] <Senjai> !es | Mimosita_linux
[21:15] <mjs_> well, firstly, really want to join active directory...tried both likewise and centrify
[21:15] <EmuAlert> How do you set up game controllers?
[21:15] <uRock> mjs_, samba should be able to do that
[21:16] <uRock> !samba
[21:16] <kill> join #ubuntu-cn
[21:16] <mjs_> did it once, but have long since forgotten...feel like there were some steps that i've forgotten?
[21:16] <mjs_> or possibly a firewall issue on the server side..
[21:16] <mjs_> any good start to finish guides?
[21:16] <Senjai> kill ??
[21:16] <uRock> !samba | mjs_
[21:17] <mjs_> ok, samba....that will handle not only the file sharing, but also the printer sharing?..
[21:17] <Stereocaulon> EmuAlert, what kind of controller are you trying to set up?
[21:17] <Senjai> mjs_ should
[21:17] <uRock> mjs_, it will work with active directory
[21:17] <mjs_> i would like to be joined to the domain just like as if native windows (SBS 2008, btw)..
[21:18] <uRock> !active directory
[21:18] <mjs_> thank you...i will check out the samba...
[21:18] <uRock> ubottu doesn know about that
[21:18] <Senjai> !msg the bot | uRock
[21:18] <EmuAlert> Stereocaulon, I'm using this: http://gear.ign.com/articles/637/637465p1.html, so it's basically USB
[21:19] <Stereocaulon> EmuAlert, try searching for "gamepad" in the software center, should net you at least 8 different tools for that
[21:19] <EmuAlert> Ah, thanks
[21:19] <Skyline0964256> i need some help :/
[21:19] <uRock> Senjai, I was doing for the prupose of others, not just myself
[21:19] <Senjai> !ask | Skyline0964256
[21:19] <mjs_> 2nd ?....any great invoicing/billing solutions for ubuntu...pref. $0, but not necessarily?
[21:19] <Cenezo> Why do people write an exclamation point followed by an keyword?
[21:20] <Senjai> Cenezo, It tells the bot you are talking to it
[21:20] <YankDownUnder> mjs_, Have you actually looked?
[21:20] <Skyline0964256> how can i broadcast my audio with stereo mix, like i do in windows xp?
[21:20] <Cenezo> Senjai, bot?
[21:20] <Gwar_Trolle> !vm
[21:20] <Stereocaulon> EmuAlert, please pastebin the result of "lsusb"
[21:20] <Senjai> !msg the bot | Cenezo
[21:20] <Stereocaulon> !pastebin | EmuAlert
[21:20] <Gwar_Trolle> :) btw, thanks for the CPU temp applet whoever gave it to me.
[21:21] <mjs_> a while ago, but was disappointed....was just hoping to help out a friend with simple needs, and didn't want to have to resort to a spreadsheet...
[21:21] <Cenezo> Senjai, oh, now I get it. Thank you. :)
[21:21] <mjs_> i can make him one, but don't want him to have to rely on me if/when his needs change...
[21:21] <Senjai> Cenezo,  p
[21:21] <Sirgado> can't mount an 10.04 server NFS export with a 10.10 Desktop.... found bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nfs-utils/+bug/656889
[21:21] <YankDownUnder> mjs_, NCH Express Invoice => quite good, zero cost, small, effective, great functionality.
[21:22] <Ztripez> is there anyone here who know lvm?
[21:22] <Sirgado> Does anybody knows a workaround for be able to mount NFS exports suing Ubuntu 10.10?
[21:22] <DasEi> !nfs | Sirgado
[21:22] <KBentley57> hey guys, a quick question.  Is is better to use WUBI to have ubuntu inside a windows installation, or to use virtualbox for the install?
[21:22] <YankDownUnder> mjs_, There's also Quasar Accounting for linux => Canadian company. Used that before.
[21:23] <mjs_> >>>for the record....paid for vmware workstation, but had some problems when upgrading, and now using virtualbox and don't really mind not spending the $300
[21:23] <KBentley57> The reason I ask, is because once I tried this, and it broke my RAID inside windows
[21:23] <KBentley57> a while ago
[21:23] <DasEi> Sirgado: if the nfs is up already, just need an entry in fstab
[21:23] <Sirgado> DasEi: this is not a isntalling or configuring problem, this a Ubuntu 10,10 bug,
[21:23] <Sirgado> nope
[21:23] <Sirgado> with a 10.04 mounts fine
[21:23] <FIReun> Q: between installing 10.10 and now, my HD has stopped reporting SMART data, has there been any reports of changes made in the kernel or tools that trip up the smartctl tools?
[21:24] <DasEi> Sirgado: ic, no idea then
[21:24] <YankDownUnder> mjs_, VMWare had it's day - but it's kinda past the "used by date" nowadays.
[21:24] <Senjai> mjs_ Are you primarily a windows user? I don't know what kind of work you do, but if its sensitive data, until your confident about linux security and user privledges, I'd stick to using windows for financials
[21:24] <YankDownUnder> Ah yes, stick to the most insecure platform for business critical and sensitive data!
[21:24] <DasEi> YankDownUnder: wrong place here, but they developed on like other projects
[21:24] <Gwar_Trolle> hey guys, I think my lm sensors is playing buggers with me, as it's registering my CPU at 17C, which I am pretty sure it isn't. Is there another way I can check short of sticking a thermomiter in there?
[21:25] <countley> i just descovrered vnc its great
[21:25] <Senjai> YankDownUnder, Yes its insecure, but linux is too, until you know how to use it
[21:25] <ohsix> YankDownUnder: it's all about what you know and what you don't
[21:25] <YankDownUnder> Learn something new after using linux for 20 years...
[21:25] <Senjai> ohsix, thank you
[21:25] <ohsix> YankDownUnder: practical insecurity in isolation is a secondary concern
[21:26] <ohsix> that's not to say he knows what' he's doing with windows already though ;]
[21:26] <YankDownUnder> I'll just have to change my current business model of the past 11 years to accord with your advice.
[21:26] <bc81> Senjai: how is linux insecure, can you explain to me plz?
[21:26] <justinsane> what do i do after i downloaded and burned and iso image to a disk?
[21:26] <Senjai> YankDownUnder, we weren't talking about you Yank, but its not just online security that needs fretting, if your unaware of user privledges on a work station, you may unwittingly allow someone access to your files
[21:26] <Senjai> bc81, see above, its not insecure, not at all, I'm saying if you don't know how to use it yet, it can be
[21:27] <ActionParsnip> justinsane: boot to it
[21:27] <DasEi> justinsane: installer cd ?
[21:27] <justinsane> oo
[21:27] <justinsane> gparted
[21:27] <ohsix> bc81: your house might be considered secure to some degree if you have doors, but less so if you don't lock them, or know about locks, or can't operate them anyways
[21:27] <justinsane> i'm trying to reformat a harddrive
[21:27] <DasEi> justinsane: same, set bios to boot from cd, pop it in
[21:27] <justinsane> so if i boot to gparted i can reformat the drive ?
[21:27] <ActionParsnip> Senjai: another root log-oner I guess
[21:28] <justinsane> thx
[21:28] <mjs_> i am unfortunately a windows user by circumstance, but don't worry, i would trust the accounting to linux...at work this is still windows based (MAS90)...my question was just about a friend to does glass mosaic and needs a better solution than using ms pub to create an invoice..
[21:28] <Senjai> ActionParsnip, I am not :/
[21:28] <Cenezo> How can I create a "app" for panels? Like the system monitor graphs, the fish or the eyes? I just want to show the system temperature.
[21:28] <DasEi> justinsane: yes, but is it another drive than the one you're running ubu from ?
[21:28] <ActionParsnip> Senjai: I meant YankDownUnder ..
[21:28] <Senjai> ActionParsnip, oh, lol i seee
[21:28] <YankDownUnder> mjs_, The NCH Express Invoice is great for simple stuff...
[21:28] <mjs_> he doesnt' need any flowthrough, just a solution that will allow him to log what he does, and then arrange and calulate for him...
[21:29] <ActionParsnip> Cenezo: there is panel items which can read the values picked up by lm-sensors
[21:29] <mjs_> thank you for those suggestions, Yank....those were not some of the solutions that i remember finding before..
[21:29] <Senjai> mjs_ good luck :)\
[21:29] <DasEi> Cenezo: lil'  procedure, install lm-sensors
[21:30] <YankDownUnder> mjs_, I'm always on the prowl for different resolutions for my clients...ergo, I have to always hunt...
[21:30] <ActionParsnip> campee_: http://tech-junky.com/linux/monitor-your-cpu-temperatures-in-ubuntu/
[21:30]  * murphy ÿ ñíîâà òóò!.
[21:30] <Cenezo> ActionParsnip, ok. But how du i find those "items"?
[21:30] <feyd> My MPD output is totally messed up
[21:30] <ActionParsnip> Cenezo: check the link I gave
[21:31] <DasEi> Cenezo: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SensorInstallHowto
[21:31] <Cenezo> ActionParsnip, DasEi, thanks. :)
[21:33] <Nighht> Salut
[21:33] <Nighht> Rom` :x
[21:33] <Rom`> Hello Nighht :x
[21:34] <Nighht> Personne parle oO
[21:34] <Enunio> salut
[21:34] <kyan> Hello! Occasionally no removable media will mount for me in Ubuntu 10.10. (cds, flash drives, external hdds, & cetera). Sometimes reboots will fix this, but now I have rebooted several times and nothing will mount.
[21:34] <Nighht> Ils sont 1500 mdr
[21:34] <Nighht> et personne parle x)
[21:34] <Rom`> oui lol
[21:34] <mickster04> !fr
[21:34] <kyan> Any ideas what I should do to fix that?
[21:34] <Enunio> lol
[21:34] <Rom`> sorry. :x
[21:34] <Starminn> If there is a program that only comes in Windows and Mac flavors, I would be better off using the Windows version and running it in WINE, correct?
[21:34] <Nighht> Donc merci ubottu
[21:34] <Nighht> Non*
[21:34] <mickster04> Starminn: most likely
[21:34] <Rom`> shut up Nighht :x
[21:34] <Nighht> shut up and let me go
[21:34] <Nighht> HEY
[21:34] <Nighht> :
[21:34] <Nighht> :D
[21:34] <FloodBot3> Nighht: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:34] <Rom`> speak english XD
[21:35] <Nighht> i don't speak english
[21:35] <Nighht> i only speak french :D
[21:35] <Nighht> le français c'est la plus belle langue :
[21:35] <Nighht> D
[21:35] <Rom`> >_<
[21:35] <Starminn> mickster04: I know nothing of Mac/Linux compatability, so is there really anything in Mac that will work on Linux (without a compatability layer)
[21:35] <Rom`> tu vas te faire virer Nighht
[21:35] <mickster04> Nighht: i disagree (probably)
[21:35] <kyan> Nighht: then how are you writing in English???
[21:35] <Nighht> et allors xD
[21:35] <xangua> !fr > Nighht
[21:35] <Starminn> !ot | Nighht Rom`
[21:35] <Nighht> alors*
[21:35] <mjs_> Yank:  nice....i just gave it a once over, but NCH looks pretty good for what he's looking for...
[21:35] <aeon-ltd> please don't feed trolls
[21:35] <Nighht> non ubottu
[21:35] <wl_deav> Nighht vous devez arrêter de parler autant. Clair et simple.
[21:36] <Nighht> MDR
[21:36] <mickster04> Starminn: i would recommend using the windows version thru wine, mac software will not work in linux directly, and I know of no intermediate layer like wine is for windows software
[21:36] <feyd> Where do I install GDM themes in Maverick? Is there a directory?
[21:36] <Rom`> sorry Starminn we are only visiting :x
[21:36] <Starminn> mickster04: Gotcha. (I intended on Windows version, but I had always wondered about Mac->Linux compatibility. Thanks.)
[21:36] <mickster04> Starminn: yeah, mac is based on unix
[21:36] <Starminn> Rom`: That is fine and well, bt please visit in #ubuntu-offtopic
[21:37] <Rom`> okay
[21:37] <xangua> feyd: the new gdm no longer suports them
[21:37] <Nighht> on arrive en touriste
[21:37] <Nighht> :$
[21:37] <Nighht> xD
[21:37] <kyan> Occasionally no removable media will mount for me in Ubuntu 10.10. (cds, flash drives, external hdds, & cetera). Sometimes reboots will fix this, but now I have rebooted several times and nothing will mount. Any ideas? Thanks.
[21:37] <DasEi> Starminn: well there are apps with same functions, written for different os'es , but unless compiled on the hardware done binarys won't work
[21:37] <Enunio> nighht
[21:37] <Nighht> Y'a pas un channel windows
[21:37] <Nighht> ?
[21:37] <Nighht> XD
[21:37] <Nighht> :$
[21:37] <FloodBot3> Nighht: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:37] <Nighht> unbuntu j'ai pas
[21:38] <Starminn> DasEi: Thought not. Alright, awesome, thanks.
[21:38] <wl_deav> Nighht C'est très bien mais il ya des règles à ce serveur. Envoi de messages trop nombreux n'est pas autorisé. S'il vous plaît être conscient de cela et essayer de ne pas écrire autant de lignes à la fois.
[21:38] <Nighht> ubuntu
[21:38] <wildbat> hi, is there a way to have a crontab run in other time zone / UTC?
[21:38] <Nighht> je dérange personne
[21:38] <aeon-ltd> wildbat: you could just delay it by a few hours
[21:38] <feyd> xangua: ok, I see. Is there a way I can change just a few things on it? LIke a background or something?
[21:39] <DasEi> Nighht: stop that here, technical channel
[21:39] <Nighht> ?
[21:39] <wildbat> aeon-ltd: huh ??
[21:39] <rafaa> Hi I am unable to umount external drives with KDE tools (I have regular Ubuntu with Kubuntu backports) any help?
[21:39] <ActionParsnip> wildbat: if you adjust the time manually then it should be ok
[21:39] <DasEi> rafaa: open a terminal..
[21:40] <ActionParsnip> rafaa: what file system is the partition (you don't mount drives)
[21:40] <wl_deav> rafaa open a terminal and type umount /device
[21:40] <DasEi> rafaa: plug drive(s)
[21:40] <aeon-ltd> wildbat: but that would only apply to time zones behind yours
[21:40] <DasEi> rafaa: mount
[21:41] <rafaa> DasEi: ActionParsnip: I CAN umount (and obviously mount) with terminal.. Just can't with standard GUI
[21:41] <Starminn> wildbat: Just adjust the times to whatever time zone the host of the Crons are in
[21:41] <DasEi> rafaa: ^shows you where and which devices are mounted, which dev is to be closed ?
[21:41] <rafaa> like dolphin or the plasma notifications
[21:41] <Nighht> Ohhh
[21:41] <Nighht> wake up
[21:41] <Nighht> wake up
[21:41] <FloodBot3> Nighht: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:41] <Nighht> is party o'clock
[21:41] <Nighht> :music:
[21:41] <ridin> where do you file a bug report again?
[21:41] <hakimsheriff> Hey all
[21:41] <DasEi> !bug
[21:41] <ActionParsnip> !bug | ridin
[21:41] <rafaa> DasEi: just a second, let me try
[21:41] <ridin> ok.
[21:42] <bc81> Nighht i want to smack you around a little bit
[21:42] <gohan4748> www.yahoo.com
[21:42] <DasEi> rafaa: in gui you have to close all windows and also no cd'ed in in terminal, and the user must be allowed to do mounts
[21:43] <rafaa> DasEi: it seems that smth stays open.. I guess a gnome deamon
[21:43] <rafaa> I'm trying with CDroms, DVD, pendrive (both NTFS and ext3)
[21:43] <rafaa> DasEi: when I plug them in, both the KDE notification AND the gnome one pop up
[21:43] <Rom`> please stop that Nighht you'll be banned XD
[21:44] <Starminn> Nighht: Pour chit-chat régulièrement le canal # ubuntu-offtopic existe. Pour le français, s'il vous plaît join # ubuntu-fr.
[21:44] <mjs_> one more ?, Yank...
[21:44] <Rom`> go #ubuntu-offtopic Nighht
[21:44] <YankDownUnder> mjs_, Ya mate?
[21:44] <Nighht> j'm'en fout Rom`
[21:44] <Nighht> je venais juste visiter
[21:44] <Nighht> au pire si j'suis banni
[21:44] <Nighht> (Y) cool
[21:44] <FloodBot3> Nighht: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:44] <Nighht> OH MAIS TA GUEULE FloodBot3
[21:44] <Rom`> u_u
[21:44] <Nighht> purée
[21:44] <rafaa> DasEi: I thinks this is the matter.. Because then when I try to umount through Dolphin, HAL complain about another program using the device.. But actually there is no Gui nor terminal opened
[21:45] <ikonia> Nighht please stop
[21:45] <Starminn> Nighht: Nous vous demandons de bien. S'il vous plaît respecter.
[21:45] <Rom`> it's just a question of respect for the people Nighht
[21:45] <ActionParsnip> rafaa: what file system is the partition?
[21:45] <rafaa> ActionParsnip: ntfs for the pendrives
[21:45] <doofy> anyone know a good piece of software for organizing media on the file system. In particular I have a lot of music and movies that I share on our local network with samba, but I want to be able to keep things organized when people add new media and want to retrieve media. Any ideas?
[21:45] <DasEi> rafaa: lsof /dev/sdXX  hsows what uses it
[21:46] <ActionParsnip> rafaa: when you last took it out of a system, what steps did you take?
[21:46] <Nighht> Rom` :(
[21:46] <mjs_> since upgrading iphone to 4.2, phone won't mount...no big deal, can sync via itunes and virtual machine...i think it's a libimobiledevice issue, but the last time i effed around with that, i lost my ability to mount to the VM and use itunes...any suggestions as to where start researching the issue..?
[21:46] <ActionParsnip> !rockbox | mjs_
[21:47] <Pnux> Hey.. is it possible to tell Ubuntu to always get the same internal IP? Lets say <IP_ADDRESS>
[21:47] <mjs_> thank you...checking out rockbox now...
[21:47] <rafaa> ActionParsnip: it's not a corrupted filesystem problem, I'm sure, because it happens with all of external drives... It's sort of a lock that stays smwhere
[21:47] <rafaa> DasEi: thx for the tip
[21:47] <rafaa> let me try
[21:47] <ActionParsnip> rafaa: you didn't answer the question
[21:47] <rafaa> ActionParsnip: please, repeat the answer
[21:47] <YankDownUnder> mjs_, Depending on the version of Ubuntu you're using, I'd start with libimobiledevice => however, I'd also check the "driver" for USB connected devices in the VM
[21:47] <DasEi> rafaa: unclean unmount of ntfs can also cause this, see Action
[21:47] <rafaa> It's not clear to me
[21:48] <volvering> hello everyone, how to share an folder between 2 pc that use ubuntu?
[21:48] <ActionParsnip> rafaa: when you removed the device from the last system, what steps did you take?
[21:48] <kdcisit1> Pnux: you can set ubuntu to use static IP or you can create a reservation on your DHCP service
[21:48] <rafaa> DasEi: ActionParsnip: it actually happens just 5 min ago, when I plugged my android device for the first time...
[21:48] <maedox> volvering: right-click the dir in nautilus (file browser) and share it.
[21:48] <ActionParsnip> volvering: can use samba, or if you install openssh-server you can use sshfs
[21:49] <Pnux> kdcisit1: thanks, ill explore those 2 options
[21:49] <bc81> Pnux: i believe this is possible in network manager, to specify manual IP addresses.  but i have never done this, so also check your router and how the addresses are assigned
[21:49] <rafaa> DasEi: ActionParsnip: I think the SD is ntfs, isn't it? anyway it is virgin.. Out of the box
[21:49] <ubuntu_> co to ma byc za szajs
[21:49] <volvering> maedox, i dont know how to use nautilious.. can tell me more detailed?
[21:49] <DasEi> rafaa: sudo fdisk -l tells you
[21:49] <bc81> !pl | ubuntu_
[21:50] <ActionParsnip> Pnux: right click network manager -> edit connections then select the interface, click edit, IPv4 tab, set the interface from DHCP to DHCP (address only) then specify the address
[21:50] <kdcisit1> Pnux: I have done both. pretty simple with network manager for static.  DHCP needs admin for reservation
[21:50] <volvering> ActionParsnip, in samba but how?
[21:50] <ActionParsnip> rafaa: is there a partition on it?
[21:50] <ActionParsnip> !samba | volvering
[21:50] <mjs_> sidenote....bought my first new computer in 27 years....and pretty happy with the vaio...they do make a good machine...
[21:50] <maedox> volvering: It's the default file manager in Ubuntu. Open your home folder and there it is. Just right-click a dir and click "Sharing options".
[21:51] <rafaa> ActionParsnip: DasEi: lsof /dev/sr0 (the cdrom) shows smth interesting.. There's a program called gvfsd-cdd.. Seems the gnome virtual FS daemon. Why is it here?
[21:51] <YankDownUnder> mjs_, I've had a few clients pick Vaio's - they're not bad - have gone so far as to even install Mac OS on 'em (via iATKOS) - besides the usual Ubuntu installations...
[21:51] <mjs_> Yank...maverick....was using natty, but had to revert...
[21:52] <Pnux> ActionParsnip: so the field i have to "change" is the DHCP client ID, right? What about the other 2? Do i leave them blank?
[21:52] <YankDownUnder> mjs_, I'm current just sticking with Maverick (on nearly all machines except for production machines)
[21:52] <wildbat> ActionParsnip: aeon-ltd, Starminn,  hmmm ~ i think i'd better work on my script a bit more , but thanks
[21:52] <mjs_> mac eh...plug and play, plug and pray, or &^%$##!...?
[21:52] <volvering> maedox, ok on my pc i shared the "dowloads" folder , now how to acces it on the other pc?
[21:52] <rafaa> ActionParsnip: a partition on what? on the SD card?
[21:53] <mjs_> i was worried about the i7, but seems to be working fine...
[21:53] <maedox> volvering: click on Network and your computer should be there
[21:53] <r0z4> hi everybody, i have backup from ubuntu 9.10 now i have installed my backup but dont recogniize my swap, what can i do
[21:53] <DasEi> rafaa: that has nothing to do with your drive-issue
[21:53] <gohan4748> #fun
[21:53] <YankDownUnder> mjs_, Only issue was on one, fan control...otherwise, s'all good.
[21:54] <mjs_> on the vaio, you mean?
[21:54] <rafaa> DasEi: oh ok now I'm trying with a new pendrive
[21:54] <YankDownUnder> mjs_, Ya mate.
[21:54] <mjs_> fan control tweaked through the BIOS?
[21:55] <YankDownUnder> mjs_, It was a headache, but yeah, ended up using BIOS instead of banging my head against a wall (cuz I was tired and just frustrated)
[21:55] <volvering> maedox, it s not there the folder or the pc
[21:55] <mjs_> i feel ya...you know macs too?
[21:55] <ActionParsnip> rafaa: yes, it's new so may not be partitioned
[21:55] <YankDownUnder> mjs_, Yes - I deal with Mac machines as well.
[21:56] <KBentley57> hey guys, I'm still trying to figure out an rsync issue, not sure where to turn.  Anyone used the rsync feature built into freenas?
[21:56] <crazyman> hi people :) i have trouble with makefile :(. Anybody help ?
[21:56] <rafaa> ActionParsnip: I am not sure, but Dolphin can browse it, so there must be a filesytem... right?
[21:56] <ActionParsnip> r0z4: i'd boot to live cd and make sure the swap is there and valid, if necessary, recreate it. You may need to change the UID in /etc/fstab for it if the value is different
[21:57] <ActionParsnip> rafaa: indeed
[21:57] <DasEi> KBentley57: ask in #linux
[21:57] <r0z4> ActionParsnip yes it is
[21:57] <r0z4> ActionParsnip i dont know how to obtain it
[21:57] <ActionParsnip> r0z4: and is the blkid the same in fstab?
[21:57] <ActionParsnip> r0z4: sudo blkid    will give the IDs of all available partitions
[21:58] <mjs_> new to them myself...while the interface is well refined, i found the bsdlike CLI to be cumbersome compared to other unix/linux distros, plus i resent the marketing when it comes to altering hardware/disassembly to force the end user to take it in to the shop...
[21:58] <ActionParsnip> r0z4: you can then run: gksudo gedit /etc/fstab   and make sure the value is identical
[21:58] <rafaa> ActionParsnip: now I have plugged a pendrive (ntfs) and nautilus popped up... WHY THE HELL??? The KDE notifier correctly opens Dolphin if I click "Open with file manager" but Nautilus popped out anyway, without asking permission..
[21:58] <ActionParsnip> rafaa: mixing DEs isn't 100% smooth dude
[21:59] <YankDownUnder> mjs_, :) => I always find a means by which to bypass getting the hardware into the shop - heaps of ways of dealing with it - it also helps to have a wholesaler in your pocket...
[21:59] <mjs_> worked on their notorius slot drive, and they not only removed the manual eject mechanism, but obviously altered the cpu/monitor design to make it more proprietary...
[21:59] <mjs_> found myself a little bit p*ssed off about that...
[21:59] <rafaa> ActionParsnip: hmmm I see.. but I love Ubuntu.. and I love KDE :/ and I'm not very happy with Kubuntu.. anyway, there must be a way! C'mon!! it's 2011 :D
[22:00] <YankDownUnder> mjs_, Exactly...however, digging will reveal enough "DIY" "how-to's" => just have to dig and dig...
[22:00] <kdcisit1> Any ideas on debugging ekiga to avaya connection via h323?
[22:00] <r0z4> ActionParsnip bklind give a uuid diferent of fstab, i edit fstab?
[22:01] <mjs_> i agree, and we're past that now...but first i had to buy some special suction cups, on accounta my local hardware shop didn't have any glass working tools
[22:01] <mjs_> ...
[22:01] <Wartoghex> hi all i was usde my wireless card to connect wireless network but now i cant show wireless networks what i need to do?
[22:01] <rafaa> ActionParsnip: DasEi: if I try umounting thru Dolphin HAL says it can't because it didn't mount the volume itself...
[22:01] <droidftw> i cant seem to find my hp printer even using their printer setup software. Any help?
[22:01] <ActionParsnip> r0z4: yes so it matches
[22:02] <YankDownUnder> mjs_, Hehehehehehehe....yes yes yes...been there done that - actually found a glass replacement shop that was happy to sell me the handles cheaply - in trade for some "work"
[22:02] <ActionParsnip> r0z4: if the UID doesn't match, then it won't get used
[22:02] <Trishpiot> hi guys
[22:02] <Wartoghex> i was use my wireless card to connect wireless network but now i cant show wireless networks what i need to do? any suggestion?
[22:02] <DasEi> rafaa: hal ? udev.. just right-click > unmount
[22:02] <NinjaJeff> what's a Windows client for accessing ftp over ssh?
[22:03] <DasEi> NinjaJeff: putty
[22:03] <r0z4> ActionParsnip, ok, thanks im going to restart for get the results,
[22:03] <NinjaJeff> putty does that?
[22:03] <rafaa> DasEi: no.. KDE seems to rely on HAL.. The error message says "Device is not in HAL-mtab"
[22:03] <kdcisit1> NinjaJeff: try filezilla
[22:03] <Wartoghex> i was use my wireless card to connect wireless network but now i cant show wireless networks what i need to do? any suggestion?
[22:03] <hp00pr> good afternoon, please help this is driving me nuts... i know how to use google.. i got my wireless device (eth1) broadcom 4312chip  to activate via the STA driver  I can list wireless networks and the light on my laptop is on but I cannot connect..
[22:03] <mjs_> Yank, I regret that I have to go...i don't say this about a lot of folk, including myself, but appreciate the knowledge, advice, and humor...tempted to give you my personal links, just to stay in touch..
[22:04] <kdcisit1> Wartoghex: have you restarted the networking or OS?
[22:04] <DasEi> rafaa: the mtab is there, but Hal doesn't handle automount
[22:04] <zort> buenas,algun español¿?
[22:04] <DasEi> !es
[22:04] <YankDownUnder> mjs_, I'm always around mate...feel free
[22:04] <Wartoghex> kdcisit1: yep i've restarted everything
[22:04] <Cradam> anyone know how to mute the speakers from bios?
[22:04] <Cradam> !ja
[22:04] <rafaa> DasEi: I think HAL has a separated mtab
[22:04] <zort> 26031989
[22:04] <mjs_> too cool...i'm sure i'll have further ?s, on accounta i aint that bright...
[22:04] <DasEi> Cradam: you can look for an option to disable the soundchip
[22:05] <mjs_> thanks again, and enjoy...yank expat from where, orig?
[22:05] <Wartoghex> i was use my wireless card to connect wireless network but now i cant show wireless networks what i need to do? any suggestion?
[22:05] <YankDownUnder> mjs_, Coolbeans - on that note, I'm going to get back to work....and Detroit...mostly...
[22:05] <mjs_> oooh....sorry about that...no wonder you moved away...
[22:06] <YankDownUnder> mjs_, Hehehehehe...yeah...Cya!
[22:07] <hp00pr> no one here has a broadcom 43xx chip with ubuntu ?
[22:07] <hp00pr> and wireless problems ?
[22:07] <Dougwiser> yes
[22:07] <hp00pr> can u help ?
[22:07] <Dougwiser> and I been beating my head on the desk over it
[22:07] <hp00pr> me too
[22:08] <Wartoghex> i was use my wireless card to connect wireless network but now i cant show wireless networks what i need to do? any suggestion?
[22:08] <hp00pr> ive got mine to work, but i cant connect to any networks
[22:08] <Dougwiser> I have a HP zv5200 with that wireless adapter
[22:08] <nowimproved> What do you guys think is the best free cpanel alternative?
[22:08] <adamruffolo> hp00pr did you try manually starting the network service from the command line
[22:08] <hp00pr> i rebooted
[22:09] <adamruffolo> hp00pr: I track.  Did you try typing in console "/etc/init.d/networking start" or "/etc/init.d/wicd start"?
[22:09] <aguitel> how to know ubuntu version installed ?
[22:10] <hp00pr> no, i have to copy it down b/c its on another partition :(
[22:10] <kdcisit1> Anyone, ekiga h323 connection to Avaya IP office system?
[22:10] <hp00pr> ill try it
[22:10] <rumpe1> aguitel, lsb_release -a
[22:10] <adamruffolo> Dougwiser: What problem are you having exactly?
[22:11] <ActionParsnip> Wartoghex: if you run: sudo iwlist scan   do you see access points?
[22:11] <Dougwiser> well I been trying to get it to work i found some stuff on the unbuntu support site for previous version the bcm43 and the bcm43 legacy drivers load but do not recognixe
[22:11] <Dougwiser> I also tried the ndiswrapper no luck
[22:12] <Dougwiser> I was already looking for usb adapter that linux actually supports
[22:12] <travlingeek> hello alll and here my problem i be on dialup and i wanted to share my windows dialup connection with ubuntu  and i already set up ubuntu that is version 10.04 and the network iis set up it already sees the shared windows folder and i can connect to ubuntu via remote desktop so that i know my network card work no problem and the only problem is i dont have acess to the internet so i need help geting on the internet if it would be
[22:12] <adamruffolo> Dougwiser: Tracking.   You have a USB Wifi?
[22:13] <mamece2> hello, could someone help me_
[22:13] <mamece2> ?
[22:13] <doofy> anyone know of a program that will move music in a given folder in to another folder organized by ./artist/album/song.extension by id3 tags? Everything I've seen requires you to use the gui and I need to automate this
[22:13] <adamruffolo> mamec2: what's the question?
[22:13] <ActionParsnip> Dougwiser: have you tried using a wired connection to get full updates
[22:13] <Dougwiser> well no the BCM43xx is not usb but I have a WUSB54g adapter from cisco i'm not having any luck with either
[22:14] <mamece2> i need to make a backup, im booting ubuntu 64 bit and i need to save my old HOME folder, i cant copy cuz i have no permission, how can i grant permission?
[22:14] <pierinolapeste> ciao raga
[22:14] <mkanyicy> doofy, you can write your own bash script for that
[22:14] <rumpe1> mamece2, boot with liveCD (or any other linux...)
[22:14] <DasEi> mamece2: from one box to another or to an external drive ?
[22:14] <mamece2> dasei to an external drive
[22:15] <DasEi> mamece2: open terminal..
[22:15] <Dougwiser> ActionParsnip: no I may have to try it though
[22:15] <mamece2> dasei
[22:15] <DasEi> mamece2: sudo fdisk -l
[22:15] <rumpe1> mamece2, ah... no write permissions to external drive?
[22:15] <doofy> mkanyicy, I think Im just going to, maybe python. I was hoping there was already something out there
[22:15] <kdcisit1> mamece2: use sudo
[22:15] <mamece2> sudo su?
[22:15] <DasEi> mamece2: mount
[22:15] <Bet> -cn
[22:16] <kdcisit1> mamece2 sudo cp -are in terminal
[22:16] <ActionParsnip> Dougwiser: updates fix a lot of stuff, you can also use the hardware driver app under system -> admin to maybe give the driver you need
[22:16] <DasEi> mamece2: get clear with the devices and mountpoints
[22:16] <ActionParsnip> mamece2: use: sudo -i   instead
[22:16] <mamece2> im getting confused
[22:16] <DasEi> mamece2: no wonder
[22:16] <mkanyicy> doofy, it doesn't have to be python, you can rely on may tools like id3, id3v2, eyeD3, mid3v2
[22:16] <berefeira> anyone use miredo?
[22:16] <DasEi> mamece2: sudo fdisk -l
[22:16] <DasEi> mamece2: mount
[22:16] <mamece2> dasei couldnt i copy and paste from the GUI?
[22:16] <DasEi> mamece2: get clear with the devices and mountpoints
[22:17] <wooter>  /ns identify !die!
[22:17] <Dougwiser> ok ActionParsnip, at least I have not tried that yet bbl
[22:17] <DasEi> mamece2: which is the external, where is it mounted ?
[22:17] <adamruffolo> maece2: Hook up direct dialog window with DasEi, otherwise you are just going to get confused
[22:18] <wooter> gotta love that
[22:18] <doofy> mkanyicy, should be easy enough. Thanks
[22:18] <mamece2> dasei i need to copy a folder from this laptop to the ext drive
[22:18] <DasEi> mamece2: I got it
[22:18] <mkanyicy> doofy, good luck
[22:18] <DasEi> mamece2: which is the external, where is it mounted ?
[22:19] <mamece2> the external is called /dev/sdd
[22:19] <DasEi> mamece2: mount
[22:19] <DasEi> mamece2: where (if so ) is /dev/sdd1 mounted ?
[22:20] <mkanyicy>  mamece2: DasEi: you can do a 'df -h | grep sdd'
[22:20] <mrgarak> Testing
[22:20] <mamece2> dasei im not very fond of the mount concept
[22:20] <mkanyicy> lol, mamece2
[22:20] <DasEi> mamece2: mount  with no args shows you all mounted partis with their dirs, is sdd1 mounted ?
[22:20] <mamece2> dasei sorry!
[22:21] <adamruffolo> mamece2: DasEi: mamece2 check out this website: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=184088
[22:21] <krillin> www.goog
[22:21] <adamruffolo> DasEi: Sorry for putting that there.  I think it's getting way to confusing to try to walk mamece2 through it in the chat room.
[22:22] <mamece2> sudo nautilus :S
[22:22] <gohan4748> www.google.com
[22:22] <DasEi> mamece2: can do, but why not just learning it a little ?
[22:22] <mamece2> the forum is confusing
[22:23] <DasEi> mamece2: getting by now ? just 2 more steps else
[22:24] <oneliner> i am trying to share files between my ubuntu machine and a vm with win xp in it,.. i thought i d smb a folder but the xp machine aint seeing it, am i missing something or should i try another way?
[22:24] <mamece2> dasei i think i answered correctly when i said external drive is mounted in /dev/sdd/
[22:24] <ActionParsnip> oneliner: samba will allow you to share folders easily between the OSes
[22:25] <DasEi> mamece2: /dev/sdd is the drive, which mounts to a mountdir
[22:25] <DasEi> mount  tells you
[22:25] <viator> set permissions on the  shared folder
[22:25] <viator> properly
[22:25] <ActionParsnip> oneliner: can the XP system ping the ubuntu PC?
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[22:26] <FloodBot3> genuinehelper: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:26] <mkanyicy> mamece2, what DasEi asks you to do is to type 'mount' in terminal and then pastebin that
[22:26] <gohan4748> www.google.com
[22:26] <mamece2> dasei sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt resolves the /dev/sdd is already mounted
[22:26] <DasEi> mamece2: what are you doing ??
[22:27] <mamece2> dasei sudo mount /dev/sdd /mnt
[22:27] <mkanyicy> mamece2, type 'mount' and copy and paste to paste.ubuntu.com
[22:27] <DasEi> mamece2: please follow my advise
[22:27] <DasEi> mamece2: mount
[22:28] <DasEi> is /dev/sd.. mounted or not ?
[22:28] <oneliner> ActionParsnip: yes it can
[22:28] <oneliner> i didint try pointing to the actual ip, will try that
[22:29] <ActionParsnip> oneliner: try mapping a network drive too, this can help
[22:29] <mamece2> dasei http://paste.ubuntu.com/569828/
[22:30] <DasEi> mamece2: so /media/OneTouch4 is the searched dir
[22:30] <mamece2> dasei /dev/sdd1 on /media/OneTouch4 type fuseblk (rw,nosuid,nodev,allow_other,blksize=4096,default_permissions)
[22:30] <mamece2> foudn it!
[22:30] <DasEi> mamece2: got it
[22:30] <mamece2> dasei the problem is default permission
[22:31] <DasEi> mamece2:sudo chown -R $USER /media/OneTouch4  &&  rsync -Pr /home /media/OneTouch4
[22:32] <DasEi> mamece2: there you are
[22:32] <mamece2> dasei would work this . chmod a+rwx /path/to/folder
[22:32] <DasEi> mamece2: not in that way, yes other ways are possible, too
[22:33] <mamece2> dasei what would do the commands u sent me_
[22:33] <DasEi> mamece2: first half own the mountdir to rgular user, second resumable copy with subfolders and progress, advanced algo
[22:34] <DasEi> man chown, man rsync
[22:34] <mamece2> dasei could u help me to change the permission so i can copy pasta the folder i want into the external drive?
[22:35] <DasEi> mamece2: the first part of the cmd does it, but home likes to be large, so a faster algo then cp and the possibility to resume and a progress is nice
[22:36] <DasEi> mamece2:sudo chown -R $USER /media/OneTouch4
[22:36] <mamece2> -R for recursive
[22:36] <DasEi> mamece2:after that could, but cp.. what you see and what you get, the terminal solution is better
[22:36] <DasEi> mamece2: recursiv, yes
[22:37] <DasEi> mamece2:sudo chown -R $USER /media/OneTouch4  &&  rsync -Pr /home /media/OneTouch4
[22:37] <oneliner> ok so i could map to a folder from (vm)windows but its saying access denied, its samba who should hace a user right? or the os?
[22:37] <mkanyicy> DasEi, mamece2 what is the type of the filesystem? ntfs/fat32?
[22:38] <mamece2> i guess is fat32
[22:38] <mkanyicy> mamece2, can you paste here the output of 'sudo blkid | grep sdd' ?
[22:39] <mkanyicy> mamece2, DasEi, if the filesystem is fat32 or ntfs, neither chown nor chmod will work
[22:39] <mamece2> mkanyicy type ntfs
[22:40] <mkanyicy> mamece2, then you have to mount it so that it gives you permissions, you cannot set permissions
[22:40] <mamece2> i think is already mounted
[22:40] <mkanyicy> mamece2, you can unmount it and remount it correctly
[22:41] <mkanyicy> mamece2, if you do not like that, work as 'root' using 'sudo'
[22:41] <DasEi> mkanyicy: you're confusing
[22:41] <mkanyicy> DasEi, what do you mean?
[22:41] <DasEi> mkanyicy: the mountdir has permissions
[22:41] <mkanyicy> DasEi, you cannot chown or chmod an ntfs filesystem
[22:42] <mkanyicy> DasEi, i know
[22:42] <gohan4748> #fun
[22:42] <mkanyicy> DasEi, they are created at mount time and cannot be changed
[22:43] <DasEi> mamece2:tried to copy something meanwhile ?
[22:43] <exutux> DasEi: mkanyicy saids right
[22:44] <exutux> NTFS doesn't use UNIX perms
[22:44] <kdcisit1> anyone know of a good client to connect VOIP to an Avaya IP Office system?
[22:44] <DasEi> exutux: but the mountdir uses them, as in fat32
[22:45] <exutux> DasEi: it doesn't too, it mounting with default permissions for FAT or NTFS
[22:45] <DasEi> mamece2: did the copy either graphical or termial succeed ?
[22:45] <naamio_mies> Greetings. I installed Ubuntu around the start of the month, ever since it had been slow, especially in aspects of flash and I cannot listen to high quality music even with the pre-packaged software. I know Ubuntu and flash aren't a happy couple, but for the most part, I'm guessing this is a graphics driver thing and I plan on optimizing for flash after I get this settled. Additional Drivers utility detects nothing, I have an ATI R
[22:46] <naamio_mies> propriety driver It's using due to it not being freeware or something along those lines. Any help?
[22:46] <exutux> DasEi: it can use and copy normally NTFS or FAT for copy paste too, but not needs to change permission
[22:46] <naamio_mies> Oh and I'm on Ubuntu 10.10
[22:46] <oneliner> i dont get this, smbpasswd is failing to add user entry
[22:47] <mkanyicy> oneliner, what are you trying to achieve?
[22:47] <DasEi> mamece2: ?
[22:47] <naamio_mies> I see tones of people with this same problem, even on far older versions and they have done numerous things that have helped.
[22:48] <oneliner> mkanyicy: share a folder from the host ubuntu to the vm win xp, so far vm can map the resource but gets user denials
[22:48] <oneliner> i though smb might need its own guest user
[22:48] <the> hello guise
[22:48] <oneliner> vm xp should be read only anyways
[22:49] <mkanyicy> oneliner, do you have samba server installed?
[22:49] <oneliner> yes
[22:50] <mkanyicy> oneliner, pastebin the portion of smb.conf corresponding to your share
[22:50] <mkanyicy> oneliner, or else pastebin your whole smb.conf
[22:52] <naamio_mies> Does anybody know if they could help me out, or possibly point me in the right direction? I've been through a lot of archived forums and nothing seems to have helped.
[22:52] <jrib> !helpme | naamio_mies
[22:53] <ActionParsnip> oneliner: if you run:  sudo smbpasswd -a $USER     in ubuntu, you can create a samba password they can authenticate as. You can then make the accessing OS remember the password
[22:53] <alesan> hi, when I type a command that doesn't exist (typo) I get a list of possible candidates to install with apt-get
[22:53] <jrib> alesan: true
[22:53] <ActionParsnip> alesan: yes
[22:53] <alesan> how can I disable such function?
[22:53] <ActionParsnip> !info command-not-found
[22:53]  * jrib eyes ActionParsnip
[22:54] <ActionParsnip> alesan: remove that package ;)
[22:54] <jrib> alesan: uninstall command-not-found
[22:54] <alesan> it "stalls" for few seconds and the hard drive works like crazy
[22:54] <alesan> ok
[22:54] <alesan> apt-remove command-not-found ?
[22:54] <jrib> !apt | alesan
[22:54] <oneliner> ActionParsnip: thats where i say its failing right now with the following repply: Failed to add entry for user sambapati.
[22:54] <jrib> alesan: use synaptic if you're not comfortable using apt-get
[22:55] <DasEi> alesan: sudo apt-get remove ...
[22:55] <medel> hi
[22:55] <RaNa> hi guys look for a open source file sharing witch can keep a copy of files thats been modified or deleted i hope this makes sense
[22:55] <alesan> why a command called "apt-GET" is used to "remove" things :)
[22:55] <Yerushalmi> I'm on Ubuntu Netbook Edition, and so my desktop isn't normal gnome but rather this Unity-style thing. Thursday night I ran an update, and Friday morning upon turning on the computer I find I only have the desktop background picture, and it keeps blinking grey. The upper bar with the time and open programs appears normal, and keyboard commands help me open programs, but I don't have a...
[22:55] <Yerushalmi> ...desktop. Help
[22:55] <Yerushalmi> !
[22:55] <ActionParsnip> oneliner: did you prefix the command with sudo?
[22:55] <noob> can somebody help me upgrade? i get this weird error msg
[22:56] <bc81> alesan: can be interpreted as apt-get-the-hell-off-my-computer :-)
[22:56] <oneliner> ActionParsnip: yes
[22:56] <jrib> !details | noob
[22:56] <alesan> ActionParsnip, jrib now I have removed it and when I type a command that is not found in the PATH I get a /usr/bin/python: can't find '__main__.py' in '/usr/share/command-not-found'
[22:56] <jrib> alesan: open a new terminal
[22:57]  * 13WAA6LW9 ñêîðî áóäó: Gone away for now
[22:57] <noob> i have a screen shot of the msg
[22:57] <alesan> well I already have 9 terminals open with all the things I need
[22:57] <jrib> !away > 13WAA6LW9
[22:57] <alesan> I guess this will have to wait until the next reboot
[22:57] <jrib> alesan: why?  just open a new terminal
[22:57] <alesan> because I need to work in those where I have some history, an environement etc
[22:58] <jrib> noob: telling us you have one isn't exactly useful, show it to us
[22:58] <GanjaReefer> installed a debian amd64 package because it was the only way to get it (mencoder-mt it says its installed, but no executeale can be found... locate mencoder-mt returns nothing. followed a guide...
[22:58] <alesan> to re-set that it would take several minutes
[22:58] <bc81> alesan: check out terminator package
[22:58] <noob> is it possible to post pics?
[22:58] <naamio_mies> Paste the link.
[22:58] <noob> im a freaking noob so i dont know
[22:58] <alesan> bc81, what does it do?
[22:58] <jrib> noob: it would be better if you just copy the text and paste it into http://paste.ubuntu.com
[22:58] <bc81> !info terminator | alesan
[22:59] <alesan> bc81, oh ok
[22:59] <alesan> thanks guys!
[22:59] <ZykoticK9> GanjaReefer, FYI, locate uses a database that is updated once a day, so using find might give different results.  Also, not the best idea to install Debian debs on an Ubuntu system (but I've done it before as well)
[23:00] <naamio_mies> noob, when did you start getting this error message; was it after some action or update ect?
[23:00] <iver> after testing my raid configuration i'm greeted with a grub-rescue prompt. ls (md0)/ prints the filesystem but ls (md0)/boot doesnt show a thing. does anyone have any experience with this?
[23:00] <noob> during the update
[23:00] <ubuntu_> ytr
[23:00] <ubuntu_> eeeeeeeeee
[23:00] <noob> ill paste the text of the error msg
[23:01] <iver> from the livecd i can see all the files in /boot
[23:01] <jrib> noob: don't paste it here, use http://paste.ubuntu.com
[23:01] <noob> ok
[23:01] <GanjaReefer> ZykoticK9, wow ur right I think it is actually installed
[23:01] <ahaziah77> can someone help me out with vlc player, i can stream url? it tells me to chekc the logs but i cant locate them
[23:01] <ahaziah77> cant stream*
[23:02] <ActionParsnip> oneliner: you can list your samba users with: sudo pdbedit -Lw
[23:02] <noob> http://paste.ubuntu.com/569844/
[23:02] <GanjaReefer> ZykoticK9, whats a better way to search for a file ls -l | grep ?
[23:02] <oneliner> ActionParsnip: repply is nobody and install user
[23:02] <ZykoticK9> GanjaReefer, "find / -iname mencoder-mt 2>/dev/null" should work
[23:03] <noob> thats the error msg i get when i try to upgrade 10.04 to 10.10
[23:03] <ahaziah77> ????
[23:03] <jrib> GanjaReefer: just do « dpkg -L mencoder-mt | grep bin »
[23:03] <terry> ahaziah77: Try gxine
[23:03] <ahaziah77> terry, whats that?
[23:04] <ahaziah77> nevermind, looked it up, just another media player
[23:04] <ActionParsnip> oneliner: so you have the samba user. YOou can set the pass again with: sudo sudo smbpasswd -L -a username
[23:05] <oneliner> samba user != install user, install user is the name i chose for sudoer
[23:05] <LinuxGuy2009> Are there any apps that can copy my iPod tracks to my PC and keep them organized in artist/album folders so they are not all thrown into one big mess?
[23:05] <JP> alguém de são paulo?
[23:05] <terry> ahaziah77: Xine is a free multimedia player.  It plays back CDs, DVDs, and VCDs, multimedia files, and multimedia streamed over a network.
[23:06] <jrib> !who | noob
[23:06] <oneliner> and since the access is read only, and local, id rather just drop password for samba
[23:06] <ahaziah77> terry, yeah, i looked it up, thanks
[23:06] <bc81> LinuxGuy2009: i believe rythmbox has this function built in, when you import a folder to your library
[23:06] <bc81> LinuxGuy2009: let me be sure..
[23:07] <JP> boa noite!
[23:07] <jrib> noob: what is the output of: apt-cache policy xserver-xorg-video-nouveau
[23:07] <bc81> LinuxGuy2009: yes, in the preferences, you can make a library structure
[23:07] <LinuxGuy2009> bc81: Ok Ill try that then. Thank you.
[23:07] <noob> jrib: what?
[23:07] <bc81> sure xD]
[23:07] <jrib> noob: open a terminal and type that command, then tell me the output
[23:08] <ActionParsnip> oneliner: yes, but you still need one to authenticate as if you are having issues.
[23:09] <oneliner> ActionParsnip: so far sudo smbpasswd -a someusername fails
[23:10] <LinuxGuy2009> bc81: I see the options for the artist/album but how do I use it to actually import them back in to my machine?
[23:10] <LinuxGuy2009> bc81: Oh NM I got it. Thanks a bunch!
[23:10] <noob> jrib: http://paste.ubuntu.com/569845/ output is here
[23:10] <feyd> I'm having major issues with MPD devices / alsa output, can anyone lend a hand?
[23:11] <oneliner> how bout i try giving the vm the same user pass combo as the install user?
[23:11] <ahaziah77> terry, when i try gxine, it downloads fine and everything for me but then i cant find it
[23:11] <jrib> noob: remove that package and try your upgrade again.  You can read about the relevant bug if you are interested: /msg ubottu upgrade  (the bug report is linked to at the bottom of the 10.04 → 10.10 page)
[23:12] <ActionParsnip> oneliner: not sure then, very strange indeed. Could ask in #samba too
[23:14] <EmuAlert> In most hidden configuration files, pound space makes that line a comment, right?
[23:14] <ahaziah77> terry, do i have to do anything more after download, it shows in /usr/bin but usually when i download through syntaptic it is ready to run
[23:14] <Starminn> Any packages out there to allow one to view an iPod touch? I pop it in and it won't let me view it.
[23:14] <jrib> EmuAlert: "most", sure, I guess, maybe.
[23:14] <ahaziah77> terry, tried it through the software center too
[23:14] <bc81> EmuAlert: dont think you even need the space
[23:15] <Starminn> EmuAlert: Right, though as bc81 said the space is usually unnecessary.
[23:15] <GanjaReefer> after 2 hours finally got all four cores of my i3 working :-)
[23:15] <jrib> EmuAlert: you really should just ask about the particular file in question
[23:15] <EmuAlert> Doesn't #! mean something, though? Though I guess I won't be starting many sentences with an exclamation point
[23:15] <GanjaReefer> with mencoder that is.
[23:16] <jrib> EmuAlert: only at the beginning of the file
[23:16] <exutux> oneliner: do you have add someuser on your sistem??
[23:16] <Starminn> EmuAlert: The shebang. ;) It tells it where to find the language you're coding it (basically)
[23:16] <shentino> it's the shell script interpreter escape
[23:16] <EmuAlert> Ah
[23:16] <talaskina> anyone particularly good with raids?
[23:16] <jrasmussen> hi
[23:16] <oneliner> exutux: no
[23:16] <jrib> !anyone | talaskina
[23:16] <exutux> oneliner: you must do it before
[23:16] <jrasmussen> do I want to encypt my home directory?
[23:17] <jrib> jrasmussen: up to you
[23:17] <jrasmussen> jrib: what are the pros and cons?
[23:17] <oneliner> right,.. sudo useradd ?
[23:17] <exutux> oneliner: adduser
[23:17] <bc81> jrasmussen: if on a laptop with data you care about: yes, i would
[23:17] <jrasmussen> on a tower and stationary
[23:17] <paq7512> is there a keyboard shortcut to close a running program?
[23:18] <jrib> jrasmussen: pro: it's encrypted so only someone with the decryption key can read it  con: performance penalty; you lose the key, you lose your data
[23:18] <Starminn> jrasmussen: Unless it's sensitive data then there's no need
[23:18] <jrasmussen> thx
[23:18] <jrasmussen> I think right now, no need!
[23:18] <bc81> paq7512: Alt+F4 to close applications (mostly)
[23:20] <EmuAlert> Is there any command to toggle capslock? I set my capslock button to mod4, but still have a need of talking in ALL CAPS.
[23:21] <ecinx3> how do i switch the close minimize restore buttons from the top left to the top right?
[23:21] <jrib> !controls | ecinx3
[23:21] <ecinx3> ty jrib
[23:22] <bc81> ecinx3: "gconftool-2 --set /apps/metacity/general/button_layout --type string "menu:minimize,maximize,close"
[23:23] <bc81> EmuAlert: some CapsLock options are in System >> Preferences >> Keyboard )) Layouts )) Options..
[23:23] <jcollierdavis> i just started using icewm on my laptop and the screen seems really dim, how do i adjust the brightness?
[23:24] <Niglop> how can I test my hardware? I feel like its running slow
[23:24] <ecinx3> Our intent is to encourage innovation, discussion, and design with the right of the window title bar ,,, << that's the weirdest thing i've read in a while
[23:25] <bc81> Niglop: System >> Administration >> System Testing
[23:25] <ylmfos> 我操，没中国人
[23:25] <bc81> !cn | ylmfos
[23:25] <Guest38574> heyyy
[23:26] <ylmfos> 不会英语
[23:26] <mamece2> dudddeeeeee IT WORKED
[23:26] <adamruffolo> mamece2.   Hot!  Can you transfer the files now?
[23:26] <mamece2> yes! excellent, u  r pro
[23:27] <mamece2> but i dont know why it didnt worked in the main session?
[23:27] <ecinx3> in kubuntu, I click on the launcher, start button and type the name, or start to type the name of an application
[23:27] <ecinx3> is there a similar feature in ubuntu.. I go crazy looking for applications through all the menus
[23:27] <ardchoille> ecinx3: alt+f2
[23:27] <oneliner> #samba, what a nice peaceful and quiet channel :-/
[23:28] <kdcisit1> oneliner: can you go the other way? ubuntu to windows?
[23:28] <ecinx3> how can I make an icon of alt f2 to put on top?
[23:28] <danub> hey all. trying to install vmware tools on my ubuntu vm. it cant find the directory containing the C header files that match my kernel. where are they located?
[23:28] <oneliner> kdcisit1: how exactly?
[23:29] <kdcisit1> danub: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[23:29] <oneliner> sharing a folder on the win see if the host can read it?
[23:29] <kdcisit1> yes kinda
[23:29] <kdcisit1> smb://windows/c$
[23:29] <exutux> ecinx3: isn't easiest  alt+f2 combination key than click on launcher ?? :/
[23:30] <jquiterio> hi
[23:30] <ecinx3> it's uncomfortable for me to be honest.
[23:30] <kdcisit1> oneliner: you can then access the C drive with the local windows user
[23:30] <Dougwiser> ActionParsnip: 406 meg of updates and still not seeing the bcm43xx wireless adapter
[23:30] <ecinx3> in my laptop i can use the mouse without leaving the homerows. i can even trouch the screen to execute a click
[23:30] <danub> kdcisit1: already have that installed
[23:30] <danub> didn't fix my issue though
[23:30] <kdcisit1> danub: run the install.py with sudo?
[23:31] <danub> kdcisit1: running as root
[23:31] <exutux> ecinx3: and isn't the same to click on the application? or for you you is more confortable click and type program name?
[23:31] <jquiterio> i have ubuntu 10.10 with kernel 2.6.35-2, and have virtualbox 4.04... i was installed ubuntu 8.04.4 on my vbox.... machine still stack on boot after pass grub.... some body can help me ?
[23:31] <ylmfos> name
[23:32] <oneliner> kdcisit1: ok that was just confusing
[23:32] <ecinx3> exutux, ony if i know where it was, I type pretty fast though.. but Modifier keys are very uncomfortable
[23:32] <zamba> is it possible to lock the Documents path for a set of users?
[23:32] <ecinx3> is there a vnc client that will be have realtime-ish in a lan?
[23:32] <ardchoille> What's the command line to bring up the alt+f2 run dialog? ecinx3 is wanting to make a panel icon shortcut for it
[23:33] <lj_> What up my people!
[23:34] <ecinx3> ^^ ardchoille , yes
[23:34] <bc81> ecinx3: check out gnome-main-menu,similar to KDE menu system
[23:34] <ardchoille> ecinx3: yeah, I know what you're tying to do but I don't know the command line for it. Hopefully someone else does
[23:35] <bc81> ecinx3: a faster VNC client is tightvnc
[23:35] <jquiterio> km jtçwavgjszj<aw
[23:35] <lj_> Any1 know what the best channel to find Backtrack support is?
[23:35] <comeback89> hey guys wonder if you could help, I'm having trouble connecting through ssh to my ubuntu server
[23:36] <rumpe1> lj_, /msg alis list #backt*
[23:36] <noob> jrib: i dont really understand? remove the package, it looks like i would be removing a lot?
[23:36] <comeback89> first time using ubuntu server, no gui. ive set up LAMP, but cant seem to connect remotly using SSH on a local network
[23:36] <adamruffolo> lj_: Did you try "/join #backtrack-linux   ?
[23:36] <lj_> thanks adamruffolo!
[23:37] <YankDownUnder> comeback89, Possibly the server is setup for DHCP and you'll have to find the IP address in order to connect?
[23:37] <ecinx3> ardchoille, bc81  got half of it.. the main menu allows me to ad stuff in the panel
[23:37] <MegaR> installed a ssh server?
[23:37] <exutux> comeback89: do you have installed openssh-server?
[23:37] <ardchoille> ecinx3: Ah, nice
[23:37] <bc81> ecinx3: you can add to panel "Run Application"
[23:37] <comeback89> yes ive installed open-shh server , and i have the local ip 192.168...
[23:37] <comeback89> i can view the "it works" page
[23:38] <exutux> comeback89: ssh doesn't matter of LAMP
[23:38] <YankDownUnder> comeback89, Right - then it appears as though your ssh either isn't installed or setup; however, have you tried to just telnet into it? Did you install telnet?
[23:38] <comeback89> no, i'll give telnet a try
[23:39] <MegaR> sudo service sshd restart or something?
[23:39] <GanjaReefer> all you should have to do is sudo apt-get install openssh-server and then ssh ip
[23:39] <ecinx3> ardchoille, i got it. RIght click the top. Add to panel. Run Application.
[23:39] <ardchoille> ecinx3: That'll work :)
[23:40] <ecinx3> very simplle, i don't know why someone else was being rude instead of just saying that.
[23:40] <SoftTimur> hello all, does anyone know where I could find the file "gtkrc-2.0"?
[23:41] <YankDownUnder> SoftTimur, ~/.gtkrc-2.0 mate
[23:41] <ardchoille> ecinx3: youo're going to like Unity :) It has a search box in the panel
[23:41] <exutux> :-/
[23:42] <SoftTimur> YankDownUnder: is it normal that I do not have this file?
[23:42] <ardchoille> SoftTimur: you may have to create it
[23:42] <ardchoille> I don't have one either
[23:42] <YankDownUnder> SoftTimur, Um...should be there my friend...if it ain't, then yeah, you'll have to create it...
[23:42] <Reallycool> how do I change the tty resolution?
[23:42] <GanjaReefer> Reallycool, you mean font size?
[23:43] <MegaR> Reallycool, why would you do that?
[23:43] <ardchoille> SoftTimur: I'm guessing you aren't running gnome session?
[23:44] <SoftTimur> ardchoille: what do you mean?
[23:44] <coraxx> hey all... a question ... when you have logged in to Ubuntu in a different language and you've by accident chosen "Update names" (the home directories names) ...and you want to change them back to the original English...how is that done ?
[23:44] <ardchoille> SoftTimur: that file simply tells the system which themes to use
[23:44] <Reallycool> MegaR, because I installed ubuntu to a usb drive and am seeing the strange effect where the tty appears to be 1920x1080 on one installation and 640x480 or so on another
[23:44] <YankDownUnder> gtkrc-2.0 => Example: http://en.gentoo-wiki.com/wiki/Toolkit_Beautification
[23:44] <naamio_mies> So one of the solutions to my driver problem that I haven't been able to try yet is getting a Catalyst Proprietary Driver. Earlier on GNOME opening 'ati-driver-installer-11-1-x86.x86_64.run' gave me a permissions error, and I didn't know how to command-line it. Now in KDE it's trying to open with gedit.
[23:45] <jbsoum> hey all, im having an issue with my panel. it seems everytime i boot up the icons end up missing, displaying incorrectly, or are in the wrong place. any thoughts?
[23:45] <naamio_mies> What desktop environment?
[23:45] <naamio_mies> Default for Ubuntu is GNOME
[23:45] <ardchoille> SoftTimur: and if you're running a gnome session, you don't need a gtkrc-2.0 file since the Appearance app does that for you
[23:45] <tottiq> jbsoum, same here  i was about to ask that
[23:45] <ecinx3> ardchoille,  I tried unity on my laptop, 11.04 something is wrong, it worked once. but everytime i run it no panels show up
[23:46] <coraxx> naamio_mies: who did you ask ?
[23:46] <naamio_mies> jbsoum, and tottiq
[23:46] <ardchoille> ecinx3: unity only has one panel at the top
[23:46] <noob> jrib: i dont really understand? remove the package, it looks like i would be removing a lot?
[23:46] <SoftTimur> actually I want to add a line in the file "gtk-key-theme-name = "Emacs""
[23:46] <ecinx3> i can only get it by running unity -release
[23:46] <Starminn> ecinx3: 11.04 Natty Narwhal support is at #ubuntu+1
[23:46] <tottiq> gnome, 10.10
[23:47] <ardchoille> SoftTimur: some examples on how to do that are here http://en.gentoo-wiki.com/wiki/Toolkit_Beautification
[23:47] <ecinx3> or something like that, but then  if i close the terminal window it crashes. I really wanted to try it for the 'utouch' since my screen is multitouch
[23:47] <SoftTimur> ardchoille: do you know how could I do this setting without changing that file?
[23:47] <ardchoille> YankDownUnder: Thanks for that link :)
[23:47] <tottiq> naamio_mies, they are displaying incorrectly
[23:47] <jbsoum> naamio_mies, same, gnome, 10.10
[23:47] <YankDownUnder> ardchoille, Yer welcome mate.
[23:47] <ardchoille> SoftTimur: no idea, I don't use that file
[23:47] <tottiq> naamio_mies, with a random order
[23:47] <ecinx3> Starminn, thanks.. I'm not going to miss with unity at the moment
[23:48] <coraxx> hey all... a question ... when you have logged in to Ubuntu in a different language and you've by accident chosen "Update names" (the home directories names) ...and you want to change them back to the original English...how is that done ? anyone ?
[23:48] <naamio_mies> Weird. Don't know what to say, I had a similar problem but with KDE that I fixed. Not sure about GNOME
[23:49] <naamio_mies> Since you both got this problem at the same time(?) it might be an update thing
[23:49] <jbsoum> ive been having this problem for the past 2 or 3 weeks now
[23:50] <bc81> coraxx: no idea, but you might look into the startup application called " User folders update".  "Update common folders names to match current locale"  the command it's calling is xdg-user-dirs-gtk-update
[23:50] <naamio_mies> !help .run
[23:50] <coraxx> bc81: thanx... I'll look right now
[23:50] <jrasmussen> install grub boot loader to master boot record... I want that, right?
[23:51] <jrasmussen> this will be the only OS on this computer
[23:51] <ardchoille> jrasmussen: yes, you want that
[23:51] <jrasmussen> thx
[23:54] <bc81> jbsoum, you tried resetting your panel?
[23:54] <jbsoum> bc81, how do i reste my panel?
[23:54] <bc81> !panels | jbsoum
[23:55] <jbsoum> ok everything looks normal now bc81
[23:56] <jbsoum> but resetting means i have to reorganize my panel again, am i going to have to do this everytime?
[23:56] <ZenGuy> I have a problem with Totem.. It won;t play anything after a brand new OS install.. I removed all configs and removed the app.. smae result.. i've purged the app and reinstalled with the same resuilts
[23:57] <ZenGuy> totem seems to slowly buffer local files until i can 'seek' & see the individual frame.. effectively now playback
[23:58] <bc81> jbsoum: i don't know..but it's something to try and see if that fixes it.
[23:59] <jbsoum> well, bc81, it's fixed, but my xchat icon is missing from the panel, which i believe is supposed to be there by default, and all my shortcuts are gone