[00:00] <nightrid3r> S4nD3r: might be an hybernation problem
[00:00] <mrpockets> GYAHHH WAHT THE H!LLLL!!!
[00:00] <Dartel> blizzle: TY
[00:00] <S4nD3r> Is it possible to correct?
[00:00] <Dartel> My bad
[00:00] <S4nD3r> I'll turn off screensaver !!
[00:00] <blizzle> Dartel, And yes, you can nominate where it installs to. Not sure you can run it "portably" if you install to USB, though.
[00:01] <Dartel> I cn not wait to install this on a quad core system
[00:01] <MrBC> Can gnome's desktop icon text be changed so that all the icons line up?
[00:01] <Dartel> Well the USB is mounted so it SHOULD work like a hard drive, Yes?
[00:01] <MrBC> Maybe a hint of a filename?
[00:01] <blizzle> Dartel, GoogleEarth on quadcore? *laugh* It's running oon Wine, so you'll only be exploiting a single core afaik.
[00:02] <blizzle> MrBC, Have you tried right clicking on the desktop?
[00:02] <Dartel> Google earth has Linux versions
[00:02] <MrBC> Yeah...
[00:02] <MrBC> Some options are there...
[00:02] <slusken> umm hi! anyone know how i disable my powermizer override options in xorg.conf? :P
[00:02] <S4nD3r> im not using nvidia, its an Intel G985. How to change it?
[00:02] <G-Blunted> So do you use Synaptic installer to install new kernels?
[00:02] <MrBC> But not the options I'm looking for...
[00:02] <blizzle> Dartel, No, GoogleEarth has Linux versions which are actually wine installations with the Windows version. *chuckle* You've been suckered.
[00:03] <MrBC> If a filename is big, the whole filename is displayed under the icon.
[00:03] <MrBC> I'm trying to get that to reduce without renaming.
[00:03] <nightrid3r> Dartel: like corel did with coreldraw
[00:03] <Dartel> LOL I have a S3 Virge M+ graphics chip
[00:03] <mrpockets> I can't become root in my overall X session, can I?
[00:04] <prahal_> Pyles17, I would try to upgrade (move old one out or /lib/firmware and install new one from http://intellinuxwireless.org/?n=Downloads
[00:04] <usser> mrpockets, you can but its not recommended
[00:04] <Dartel> blizzle:  Oh did not know that
[00:04] <mrpockets> usser, I know its not recommended, and I know this chan doesn't suggust even telling peopel how
[00:04] <prahal_> as the config80211 is  by default configured for US this cannot be the issue
[00:04] <blizzle> mrpockets, Login as root, you are root. Except by default root on ubuntu has no password set, so you'd need to address that first.
[00:04] <prahal_> and the other side (what was in the daemon for ipw version) is now in the firmware
[00:05] <isase> you can't login GUI as root without setting AllowRootLogin to true in /etc/gdm/gdm.conf
[00:05] <mrpockets> blizzle, It says I cannot log in this way with the administrator when i try to log into the session as "root"
[00:05] <isase> mrpockets: you have to edit, as root, /etc/gdm/gdm.conf
[00:05] <isase> search for the line that says "allowroot"
[00:05] <Pyles17> prahal_: right. next computer i'm getting is going to have hardware that doesn't suck
[00:05] <isase> and change "false" to "true" (without quotes, mind you)
[00:05] <isase> then you have to restart gnome
[00:05] <Pyles17> with linux
[00:05] <mrpockets> isase, thanks
[00:06] <Dartel> Some of this reminds me of my old Amiga days but its differant enough to slow my learning curve
[00:07] <blizzle> mrpockets, You could just sudo apt-get install slim
[00:07] <mrpockets> isase, need to reboot after editing said .conf?
[00:07] <prahal_> Pyles17, well as it seems it not only sucks with linux .( it is hardcoded in hardware for the US when bought in the US .  And the firmware only vallidate this . This means that if one travels then boom no way to switch the regulatory settings
[00:07] <isase> mrpockets: no, just restart gnome
[00:07] <isase> *gdm
[00:07] <Dartel> I will delete the Google earth files will be too much for system to run I think
[00:07] <blizzle> mrpockets, gdm is a bit heavier, slim is a lighter login manager. Just a thought :)
[00:07] <blizzle> Ah, he gone.
[00:07] <prahal_> though I like Intel hardware next time I ll take a close look at what they are selling before buying
[00:07] <Pyles17> prahal_: i saw that. ridiculous
[00:07] <isase> mrpockets: as root ,run gdm-restart from command line
[00:08] <todd> I was wondering if there is an easy way to "back up" user accounts (IE: there password and files)?
[00:08] <mrpockets> This would be a whole lot easier if it just told me which goddamn machien it wants the password for
[00:08] <Pollywog> hello, I upgraded a hardy system to Intrepid but the old image will not boot (file not found error) and the new image asks for a LUKS password and the old LUKS password does not work.  Is this a common upgrade problem with Intrepid?
[00:08] <Dartel> WB mrpockets
[00:08] <mrpockets> "localhost" isnt very specific when networking whathaveyou
[00:09] <mrpockets> and its not the local host, because its not accepting the password
[00:09] <isase> mrpockets: it wants the password for the machine the printer is connected to
[00:09] <blizzle> Dartel, On your machine, it will be too heavy without doubt.
[00:09] <mrpockets> isase, its a networked pritner over ethernet
[00:09] <mrpockets> and it won't take the password for the server supporting it
[00:09] <isase> mrpockets: what's server OS?
[00:10] <mrpockets> win2k3
[00:10] <isase> mrpockets: and hte printer is shared, right?
[00:10] <isase> (jsut making sure)
[00:10] <mrpockets> yeah
[00:10] <mrpockets> 'heh
[00:10] <skate2> anyone use znc? i dont get how to use it and cant find any good howto on it
[00:10] <blizzle> mrpockets, user/pass for an account on the win2k3 box.
[00:10] <and2> I'm having a heck of a time adding a display and was hoping someone might be able to tell me how to gracefully restart the x server?  I keep getting pushed into low res display moe when I try ctrl alt backspace
[00:10] <isase> was about to suggest that, blizzle
[00:10] <mrpockets> no problems on the other windows machines
[00:10] <isase> windows != ubuntu
[00:10] <isase> :P
[00:10] <owner_> i have the same problem as and2
[00:10] <mrpockets> right
[00:11] <owner_> i found one way to fix the error, but it doesn't fix the resolution
[00:11] <mrpockets> I'm just saying the problem is with the Ubntuy machien, not the network or the share
[00:11] <pil> hi
[00:11] <blizzle> mrpockets, also check permissions in /etc/samba.smb.conf
[00:11] <Dillizar> !ultimate edition
[00:11] <isase> mrpockets: what is the error that it's hrowing up, exactly/
[00:11] <todd> how can I backup my users accounts so I can "restore" after a resinstall?
[00:11] <mrpockets> i enter password
[00:11] <blizzle> mrpockets, * /etc/samba/smb.conf
[00:11] <Pollywog> hello, I upgraded a hardy system to Intrepid but the old image will not boot (file not found error) and the new image asks for a LUKS password and the old LUKS password does not work.  Is this a common upgrade problem with Intrepid?
[00:12] <mrpockets> and it says "adding pritner" for a few secconds
[00:12] <Dillizar> is ultimate edition a real ubuntu?
[00:12] <mrpockets> then asks for the password again
[00:12] <and2> anyone?  graceful x server restart
[00:12] <nightrid3r> Dillizar: not officialy
[00:12] <isase> and2: ctrl+shift+backspace
[00:12] <Pollywog> I guess I should just do a clean install of Intrepid
[00:12] <Pollywog> would that be best?
[00:12] <blizzle> isase, You know that's deprecated in jaunty, right?
[00:12] <and2> isase: thats not graceful
[00:13] <isase> blizzle: it works :P
[00:13] <Dillizar> nightrid3r but will still have support form the ubuntu comunity
[00:13] <isase> although i didn't know that
[00:13] <nightrid3r> Dillizar: yup
[00:13] <blizzle> isase, Not in jaunty.
[00:13] <isase> and2: apologies, then
[00:13] <isase> blizzle: i stand corrected then, still using Intrepid
[00:13] <owner_> my server gives me a low graphics error during bootup because i dont' have a monitor attached, how do i fix the resolution
[00:14] <mrpockets> blizzle, i'd edit smb.conf if i wanted to share it out from this location
[00:14] <freazer> My system was shut down abruptly and now I've got bad inodes!! I've used a livecd to repair them but some of my programs aren't working! firefox is giving me "illegal instruction" from command line, and I reinstall it but it still doesn't work. I've noticed other important system files like /etc/init.d/rc were damaged in small ways - can anybody help me repair and salvage my system??
[00:14] <todd> how can I backup my users accounts so I can "restore" after a resinstall?
[00:14] <prahal_> todd, 1/ the data (well /home/* ) second the permissions (tricky but you can count on any user/group above 1000 to be users and users'groups ... if you also want to retain the system groups where your users belongs - audio, netdev, plugdev, etc ... hard to tell how to best achieve that
[00:15] <Dillizar> nightrid3r what about gedubuntu or smt like that
[00:15] <isase> Dillizar: why not jsut use Ubuntu?
[00:15] <GeffIsLegend> anyone mind helping me to install fonts on my system? the stuff on the support fourms  istoo complicated....
[00:15] <S4nD3r> how to discover which video driver is installed?
[00:15] <todd> prahal: Thats exactly what I am looking for groups, and passwords, I mean there has to be a way right???
[00:15] <Dillizar> isase lol :D i am
[00:15] <nightrid3r> Dillizar: any ubuntu or derived system can be supported as far as its the ubuntu part that gives problems
[00:15] <MrBC> Can gnome's desktop icons only show part of the text insteadl of ALL of it so that the icons like up better?
[00:16] <MrBC> line up
[00:16] <Dillizar> lol nightrid3r
[00:16] <nightrid3r> Dillizar: the other parts will depend if people in here use it
[00:16] <drash> todd: there are numerous backup options available (do a websearch for more info i guess) ... but if you put your /home in a partition of its own (separated from the / system files) you can update or reinstall without the need for 'restore'. You might want to websearch for partition schemes in ubuntu (or linux in general)
[00:16] <isase> Dillizar: to answer what I think is your question, the "official" ubuntu distros are ubuntu, kubuntu, edubuntu, xubuntu, and ubuntu server
[00:16] <GeffIsLegend> anyone mind helping me install fonts on my system please ? ubuntu8.10
[00:16] <freazer> When I try to run firefox (even in safemode) it says "illegal instruction" - so I tried sudo apt-get purge firefox and then sudo apt-get install firefox and I'm getting the same errors - I've run e2fsck -fy and it's not fixing any new inodes - any tips?
[00:17] <S4nD3r> ??
[00:17] <todd> drash: I know how to back up user files, how do I backup users???
[00:17] <Dillizar> GeffIsLegend go to home and show hiden folders and find the .fonts and put them there
[00:17] <isase> todd: it's not an easy, straightforward process - you're probably better off jsut recreating them after a reinstall
[00:17] <Cpudan80> Hello all
[00:17] <todd> drash: Already did a bunch of google searches, need more to go on
[00:17] <drash> todd: cfr isase
[00:17] <Cpudan80> How do I reload bash so that the new path variables take effect?
[00:17] <prahal_> todd, you could backup /etc/passwd /etc/group /etc/shadow /etc/gshadow ( withstanding the security issues)
[00:18] <freazer> drash: That isn't true at all! I've put my /home in another partition, and when i reinstalled _none_ of the users could login saying they could not have write permissions to their own folders!
[00:18] <GeffIsLegend> Dillizar i only see a .fontconfig, should i make a .font myself?
[00:18] <Dillizar> yes GeffIsLegend
[00:18] <GeffIsLegend> ok thanks ill try it
[00:18] <mrpockets> okay
[00:18] <meoblast001> why does " pactl load-module module-alsa-sink device=bluetooth" cause pulseaudio t crash?
[00:18] <mrpockets> you guys where fullashit
[00:18] <mrpockets> it actually wanted the password for localhost
[00:18]  * Dartel pulls out his linux to english dictionary and tries to follow along
[00:18] <prahal_> but yes this is not straightforward . You d be better of exporting users and groups (non system ones ) to ldap/kerberos
[00:18] <_VIM_> !language | mrpockets
[00:19] <mrpockets> sry
[00:19] <isase> mrpockets: you said you tried that and it didnt work?
[00:19] <Pollywog> mrpockets: that is no way to get help
[00:19] <Dillizar> GeffIsLegend if you want to install the new vista font or other typical windows fonts i think you cant well the vista one you cant :D
[00:19] <MoTec> you all are awfull and useless! now someone help me with my problems, NOW!
[00:19] <mrpockets> isase, what i did, is click "connect to server" before trying to add the printer
[00:19] <todd> prahal_: Assuming I am root/admin if I drop in /etc/passwd /etc/group /etc/shadow /etc/gshadow, and install the same software, and the users files I should get the same system... basicly? are there any other files?
[00:19] <isase> MoTec: LOL
[00:19] <mrpockets> select connect to "Local Host"  and entered Root as the user
[00:19] <Kryzler> lol MoTec
[00:19] <freazer> Can anyone recommend a browser besides Firefox to use within ubuntu? I really need to browse google but this machine can't run firefox still ^^!!!!
[00:19] <prahal_> todd, no  sadly
[00:19] <mrpockets> then added it, and used the local root password when it prompted me
[00:19] <isase> freazer: lynx
[00:20] <Kryzler> what he said ^_^
[00:20] <todd> prahal: You mentioned security issues???
[00:20] <Kryzler> lynx is awesome
[00:20] <dellsucks> anyone have their entire system freezing with NetworkManager causing the problem when connecting to a certain network?
[00:20] <dellsucks> so annoying
[00:20] <Dillizar> what is your problem MoTec
[00:20] <n8tuser> dellsucks -> yes I can confirm
[00:20] <isase> Dillizar: sarcasm :P
[00:20] <MoTec> Dillizar: no problem, actually.. trying to help others.  that was sarcasim :)
[00:20] <G-Blunted> this system-tools-backends package never installs right....how can i fix that?
[00:20] <Dartel> MoTec: Take a seditive with half glass of whater pour rest on computer, problems solved
[00:20] <prahal_> todd, but you could add everything above 1000 uid without issues (for the system groups ownership , I guess one have to do it by hand ... but still ldap or nis seems better fitted
[00:20] <Dillizar> lol
[00:20] <Dillizar> "D
[00:20] <Dillizar> :D
[00:21] <MoTec> Dartel: how about multiple beers?
[00:21] <dellsucks> n8tuser: how do i fix it? right now i'm updating packages
[00:21] <Dillizar> help me MoTec :D
[00:21] <n8tuser> dellsucks -> nothing you can do, just do not switch networks
[00:21] <Dillizar> MoTec i have a big 8.10 problem
[00:21] <isase> todd: unless you're suing LDAP or something similar, it's not really practicalyl doable
[00:21] <isase> *using
[00:21] <freazer> Is there a command I can run that will scan my system files and programs and repair any that were damaged? basically a full reinstall without losing my settings or users?
[00:21] <prahal_> G-Blunted, you mean you are installing from sources ?
[00:21] <Ravenor> Has anybody got hibernate to work on Hardy through uswsusp?
[00:21] <Ravenor> On a laptop
[00:21] <dellsucks> n8tuser: i have to connect to this network
[00:21] <Dartel> Dont drink and Linux how do you think windoze was created?
[00:21] <isase> Dartel: lots... and lots... and LOTs of booze
[00:21] <isase> :P
[00:21] <n8tuser> dellsucks -> your own?
[00:21] <Dillizar> Ravenor just close the laptop :P
[00:21] <dellsucks> n8tuser: nah, school's
[00:22] <MoTec> lol, it's worse than that.. apparently i bought a new car online last night after I'd been drinking :)
[00:22] <todd> prahal: what would you recommend I do? I need to be able to wipe machines completely, and restore ALL user info
[00:22] <Ravenor> Dillizar, Thats not the point.
[00:22] <prahal_> ldap with luma is quite easy by the way
[00:22] <n8tuser> dellsucks -> make it your default at boot, then dont attempt to switch to another
[00:22] <nightrid3r> freazer: restore from that precious backup you made
[00:22] <archman> can i somehow see session runtime?
[00:22] <dellsucks> n8tuser: when i go to different places around campus it connects to the school network, but when i'm at the lib it freezes
[00:22] <Dartel> So what do you all suggest to relive bordem with a system that seems to be just good for surfing and chatting LOL any decent games?
[00:23] <n8tuser> dellsucks -> i can confirm that,  nothing you can do about it
[00:23] <MoTec> tuxracer!
[00:23] <dellsucks> weird
[00:23] <Dillizar> Dartel i am playing CS :D
[00:23] <dellsucks> well someone should fix that bug
[00:23] <meoblast001> Ubuntu makes me want to punch babies
[00:23] <todd> dartel: bosswars!
[00:23] <Dartel> Hmmmm
[00:23] <archman> LOL
[00:23] <badfish69> so punch babies
[00:23] <rporter> Does anyone have an idea why ./configure for the newest bluez would tell me that DBUS isn't there, but DBUS is clearly installed on my system?
[00:23] <sambagirl> i am so frustrated. i cannot for the life of me get a single cd/dvd to burn. could the whole spindle of optical media be bad?
[00:23] <Dillizar> Dartel and WOW and warcraft
[00:24]  * Dartel hides his beanie baby collection
[00:24] <n8tuser> dellsucks -> you are in school, you have the time, contribute and fix such issues
[00:24] <blizzle> sambagirl, Have you tried burning at minimum speed?
[00:24] <badfish69> sambagirl, try k3b, brasero seems to suck
[00:24] <sambagirl> sure
[00:24] <sambagirl> ok
[00:24] <todd> dartel: yea for games, windows has more of a selection... look into WINE
[00:24] <dellsucks> n8tuser: no you have it wrong, i'm in school and i don't have time
[00:24] <archman> brasero is awesome for me
[00:24] <sambagirl> brb l3b?
[00:24] <sambagirl> ok
[00:24] <andypls1> guys i created a new windows live ID but when i try to login to msn, it says service unavailable
[00:24] <badfish69> k3b
[00:24] <badfish69> it's in the repos
[00:24] <sambagirl> that is in the respository
[00:24] <sambagirl> ?
[00:24] <Ravenor> How do I go about reenabling wireless after hibernate kills my wireless functionality. nm-applet doesn't give me any options for wireless. Like the entire device disappeared. ath_pci still shows up in lsmod though.
[00:24] <andypls1> my other account can login without any problems, anybdy knows why?
[00:24] <badfish69> yeah
[00:24] <blizzle> sambagirl, apt-get install brasero
[00:24] <fearful> andypls1: What client
[00:25] <badfish69> sudo apt-get install k3b
[00:25] <prahal_> todd, ldap with backups of the ldap db .Managing users through "luma". Don't know about ubuntu but unnder debian it was manageable to setup .  I was running halflife on windows before I went to Ubuntu
[00:25] <S4nD3r> its installed xserver-xorg-video of a lot of video cards in my laptop, is it necessary???
[00:25] <n8tuser> Ravenor -> sudo ifdown wlan0; sudo ifup wlan0
[00:25] <S4nD3r> My one is Intel 965G
[00:25] <InSAnE_> hello  everybody
[00:25] <blizzle> badfish69, Apparently it doesn't suck for all. :)
[00:25] <badfish69> it sucked for me on hardy and intrepid
[00:25] <archman> i always burn with brasero, and it's doing me good
[00:25] <fearful> andypls1: Try Pidgin or aMSN
[00:25] <LaGeek> Dartel but only CS i dont hink you can install CDS but i think halflife2 can not sure
[00:25] <Dartel> Hi InSAnE_
[00:26] <InSAnE_> i need  some help
[00:26] <sambagirl> it was already installed let me try it.
[00:26] <sambagirl> brb
[00:26] <LaGeek> hit me InSAnE_
[00:26] <InSAnE_> im a very newbe ubuntu user
[00:26] <zcat[1]> just wondering if there's any hope of getting the dialup modem in my laptop working. It identifies as 'SiS AC'97 Modem Controller', can't find much about it on google except a few vague references to 'alsa' having some support (but no actual clues like what package to install)
[00:26] <andypls1> fearful i also tried with windows live msn. is it because it's a newly created windows live ID?
[00:26] <Dartel> I dont like pidgion
[00:26] <LaGeek> !ask InSAnE_
[00:26] <fearful> andypls1: It shouldn't be because of that
[00:26] <Nicark> Quick question: how much swap space should i configure for a 4GB ram desktop amd64 system? (1gb?)
[00:26] <archman> zcat[1] i managed to get mine working on gutsy
[00:26] <zcat[1]> archman: how?!!
[00:26] <LaGeek> !ask | InSAnE_
[00:26] <archman> zcat[1] just a sec...
[00:26] <andypls1> fearful both programs fail, the problem must be somewhere else
[00:27] <InSAnE_> i installed ubuntu studio 8.10 on my PC
[00:27] <sambagirl> what a neat program
[00:27] <freazer> Nicark: depends on what you do - if it was me with 4 GB ram I wouldn't use any swap - you could run 3 World of Warcraft's at once and not need swap - Swap is just slow slow slow backup memory
[00:27] <LaGeek> !line | InSAnE_
[00:27] <InSAnE_> installation is works fine whitout problem
[00:27] <Dartel> BRB looking for CS
[00:27] <beefcircuit> InSAnE_: did it install cinepaint by default?
[00:27] <LaGeek> InSAnE_ try to make your question with one ENTER
[00:27] <fearful> andpls1: Its probably an error with MSN servers, since they use so many it maybe that the one which your new account is logging in is messed up
[00:27] <InSAnE_> but the first  is not  i only see black bicture after the boot
[00:28] <fearful> andpls1: Give it a few minutes and try again
[00:28] <prahal_> what is the way to hibernate under ubuntu ? uswsusp is broken under ubuntu so I don't know
[00:28] <andypls1> feaful it's been about an hour now...
[00:28] <prahal_> by broken I mean it corrupt generated initramfs
[00:28] <freazer> is there a command to sudo apt-get remove all and then reinstall all? like could I export my package list somehow?
[00:28] <fearful> andpls1: What error code does it give you
[00:28] <blizzle> prahal_, Hibernation is still a hit and miss affair.
[00:28] <InSAnE_> ok i try and sorry for the gramatic mistakes  im hungarian
[00:29] <freazer> and for the record, Seamonkey was a Firefox wannabe that is a GUI web browser that works and is not Firefox, lynx was just a silly suggestion for a newbie
[00:29] <freazer> I didn't ask for CLI
[00:29] <nightrid3r> !hu | InSAnE_
[00:29] <sambagirl> umm it doesnt write dvds
[00:29] <andypls1> 416 fealess
[00:29] <LaGeek> !hu
[00:29] <sambagirl> brb
[00:29] <andypls1> 416 fealful
[00:29] <blizzle> freazer, dpkg I think you'd need.
[00:29] <drash> Nicark: http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/linux-swap-space.html has a recent 'view' on that exact topic
[00:29] <LaGeek> !hungarian
[00:29] <archman> zcat[1] it's for intel8x0m modules: http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/d26d91db8 it could help you ; be creative! ;) cheers!
[00:29] <isase> blah
[00:29] <n8tuser> freazer -> look into  tasksel ubuntu-desktop  or the tasksel in general -- google for it
[00:29] <prahal_> blizzle, it is not like it is not working under debian ... that s why I am asking for ubuntu
[00:29] <Nicark> freazer: Thanks, I don't use any high ram usage software, nor do i use this computer as server, i guess i'll go with as many as possible if not any swap at all.
[00:29] <Dartel> I am American and still can't type.
[00:29] <sambagirl> wow what a cool program
[00:29] <Nicark> thanks drash will see
[00:29] <prahal_> sid I mean I don't know about lenny itself have not checked
[00:29] <freazer> blizzle, n8tuser: thanks will look into both
[00:30] <zcat[1]> archman: hmmm.. SiS not intel but I'll take a look
[00:30] <blizzle> freazer, sudo dpkg --reinstall -a or something similar. try man dpkg
[00:30] <tekteen> does anyone know what channel to go if you want help with GCC?
[00:30] <alex_mayorga> I have an ubuntu install that stales on libslp1, I've checked the image md5 hash and verified the CD, what can be wrong here?
[00:30] <archman> zcat[1] yes, but you could get on the trace...good luck :)
[00:30] <fearful> andypls1: Thats the error code from the msn client or Pidgin/Kopete
[00:30] <archman> zcat[1] you done that modem diagnostics?
[00:30] <LaGeek> tekteen what is that
[00:31] <prahal_> ok I ll use sid packages under ubuntu of uswsusp and hope the ubuntu way of patching pm-utils won't make it kill the system
[00:31] <Dartel> Was that CS or CSs?
[00:31] <isase> GCC is the Gnu C Compiler
[00:31] <andypls1> that's the error Kopete is reporting fearful
[00:31] <archman> zcat[1] scanmodem i believe...dunno
[00:31] <LaGeek> lol Dartel
[00:31] <InSAnE_> i have an ati 3870 GPU    i thint the problem is coused the default linux GPU driver  i cant fint a solution  whit the black picture    i dont knox the safe mode command on the grub menu
[00:31] <fearful> andypls1: Can you give me one from the msn client please
[00:31] <LaGeek> counter strike and source
[00:31] <archman> oh i'm getting drunk here while studying at the same time...
[00:31] <LaGeek> nice work archman :D
[00:31] <Dartel> CS= Counter Strike CSs= Counter strike source
[00:31] <andypls1> fearful Kopete is the msn client
[00:31] <S4nD3r> So... I had  XP installed, in dual boot system. BUt, now, when I choose Windows XP, this reboot and do not start windows.  :P thanks
[00:32] <fearful> andypls1: I know but can you login to the MSN Client like, Windows Live 8.0 or w/e version it is at now, and show me that error?
[00:32] <LaGeek> S4nD3r how did you installed ubuntu inside the windows or.......
[00:32] <manguy> Is there some sort of ssh log file in ubuntu?
[00:32] <andypls1> feaful unfortunatelly i am on linux nonw
[00:32] <S4nD3r> In another partition.
[00:32] <S4nD3r> Its is separated partition.
[00:32] <fearful> andypls1: Try logging in at www.meebo.com
[00:33] <andypls1> fearful: ok
[00:33] <nightrid3r> manguy: look in /var/log/
[00:33] <lstarnes> manguy: /var/log/auth.log
[00:33] <archman> S3nD3r: if youre not a gamer it's no use, use vmware...or any vm-server
[00:33] <manguy> Ahh auth.log, thanks!
[00:33] <LaGeek> S4nD3r put the windows cd and see if the windows misses some dll files dunno its a ubuntu channel
[00:33] <S4nD3r> I know. But I need windows to my researches.
[00:34] <archman> S3nD3r: you can install win on vmware...
[00:34] <archman> and have it
[00:34] <S4nD3r> If I need to re-install Windows, which procedures to re-install grub without lost windows MBR?
[00:34] <LH{> hey how do i run photoshop in ubuntu?
[00:34] <LH{> is it called wine?
[00:34] <archman> LH yes
[00:34] <nightrid3r> LH{: wine
[00:35] <LH{> cool
[00:35] <blizzle> LH: apt-get install wine
[00:35] <andypls1> fearful: ok
[00:35] <LH{> ty
[00:35] <andypls1> fearful: it doesn't login
[00:35] <fearful> andypls1: Did it work?
[00:35] <archman> or synaptic?
[00:35] <blizzle> LH: And then get Wine to run the Photoshop installer.
[00:35] <fearful> andypls1: Error?
[00:35] <chetnick> how can i remove Shockwave plugin for firefox?
[00:35] <_VIM_> I was only able to get CS2 working on Wine
[00:35] <archman> no need to be a geek ;);););)
[00:35] <LaGeek> vmware archman???
[00:35] <andypls1> fearful: it doesn't say any error
[00:35] <archman> yep
[00:35] <andypls1> fearful: it just appears as nothing happened
[00:35] <andypls1> really
[00:35] <blizzle> LH: If you want more up to date Wine, you'll need to add the wine repository.
[00:35] <LaGeek> archman dunno what is that lemme check
[00:35] <LaGeek> :P
[00:35] <Dartel> do the counter strike games need wine?
[00:36] <archman> LaGeek: virtual machine, like you have computer inside computer ;) LL
[00:36] <LaGeek> lol
[00:36] <fearful> andypls1: Ok give me one sec
[00:36] <archman> pretty awesome app
[00:36] <LaGeek> inside?? WOW
[00:36] <LaGeek> :D
[00:36] <archman> yes
[00:36] <LaGeek> i was thinking it was a emulator
[00:36] <archman> chech vmware unity on youtube!!
[00:36] <archman> you'll get impressed
[00:37] <LaGeek> archman but i need a windows cd??
[00:37] <_VIM_> cd or iso
[00:37] <fearful> andypls1: The error just says 461 or is there a message?
[00:37] <archman> LaGeek: depends on xp
[00:37] <Dartel> I have Linux pro mag on lap issue on Virtual enviroments
[00:37] <blizzle> LH: Google for wine hq application database
[00:37] <archman> LaGeek: take the one password-free
[00:38] <LH{> blizzle, how do I install photoshop on that? would it say run via wine or something
[00:38] <andypls1> "unhanded msn error code 416" fearful
[00:38] <LaGeek> archman thats a crime :D
[00:38] <archman> LaGeek: breathing will be a crime in ten years ;)
[00:38] <LaGeek> lol
[00:38] <archman> LH{> wine <app>
[00:38] <FiReSTaRT> hey guys.. i'm getting the msg saying "W: GPG error: http://ppa.launchpad.net intrepid Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 60D11217247D1CFF" what does that mean and what do i do about it?
[00:39] <archman> FiReSTaRT: you need to enter gpg key
[00:39] <archman> in software sources
[00:39] <LH{> archwan?
[00:39] <nightrid3r> FiReSTaRT: get the gpg key from the site
[00:39] <Dartel> In 4-8 years not breathing may prove to be a blessing
[00:39] <archman> :D
[00:39] <FiReSTaRT> so i go to http://ppa.launchpad.net?
[00:39] <bioshake> Re:  ubuntu and swap:  I'm just wondering if I should make my swap bigger than 1.4 gigs (I have 2 gigs of ram) to avoid any protential issues with suspend / hibernation
[00:40] <Joker_-_> Hey my DVD drive can't play DVDs, any tutorial on why this would happend? (It's on a mythbuntu media center box).
[00:40] <nightrid3r> FiReSTaRT: yes
[00:40] <archman> FiReSTaRT: there where you found your reps
[00:40] <LaGeek> archman wow its good i will try it when i will come nack home
[00:40] <Dartel> How do I change my password for when I log onto my wireless connection?
[00:40] <LaGeek> is it free??
[00:40] <FiReSTaRT> i think these are just standard ubuntu reps
[00:40] <sambagirl> k3b doesnt burn dvd?
[00:40] <archman> LaGeek: yes, mainly
[00:40] <nightrid3r> Joker_-_: libdvdcss2 <--- needed for encrypted dvd's
[00:40] <andypls1> fearful?
[00:40] <archman> LH{> put your setup file on desktop
[00:40] <Joker_-_> night, thx I already found a tutorial talking bout that but I cannot find in what repos it is?
[00:41] <Joker_-_> nightrid3r: thx I already found a tutorial talking bout that but I cannot find in what repos it is?
[00:41] <fearful> andypls1: One second please
[00:41] <andypls1> ok
[00:41] <nightrid3r> Joker_-_: medibuntu repo
[00:41] <LH{> archman, what happens if its on a dvd
[00:41] <Joker_-_> nightrid3r: this is not in the source.list by default?
[00:41] <nightrid3r> Joker_-_: no
[00:41] <Joker_-_> nightrid3r: do you have a quicklink for me or something ;)
[00:41] <FiReSTaRT> nightrid3r: i have 2 apps that use ppa.launchpad.net.. how do i find out which one the key is for?
[00:41] <nightrid3r> Joker_-_: medibuntu.org
[00:41] <Joker_-_> nightrid3r: thx
[00:42] <archman> LH{> then go to dvd location, open terminal there and run: wine <your setup file>
[00:42] <LH{> oh ill try that! :D
[00:42] <nightrid3r> FiReSTaRT: look on the apps pages, there should be instructons on whch key you need
[00:42] <LH{> archman, does it do isos?
[00:42] <FiReSTaRT> i'll give it a shot :)
[00:43] <fearful> andypls1: And you can login to other accounts using the same computer?
[00:43] <archman> LH{> nope, you need to mount iso; you have an iso?
[00:43] <andypls1> fearful yes
[00:43] <LH{> yes i have an iso of photoshop on my hdd
[00:43] <LH{> ill just extract it or something
[00:43] <archman> LH{> mount it, with acetoneiso2, or some built-in app for it
[00:44] <blizzle> LH{, You can mount an iso with mount. man mount
[00:44] <LH{> kk
[00:44] <_VIM_> !iso
[00:44] <andypls1> fearful what are you thinking?
[00:44] <archman> LH{> if you need help, let me now, i'm here, drinking and studying :D:D:D
[00:44] <LaGeek> how can i make my a installisation of a ubuntu ! with my themes and stuff! so when it will be installed will be lets say looking as  mac os??
[00:44] <LH{> LOL archman
[00:44] <LH{> what you drinking, oj?
[00:44] <fearful> andypls1: It usually means theres an error with the msn server, but I find it awkard thats been an hour and you can login fine with others.
[00:45] <archman> LaGeek: what??
[00:45] <archman> LH{> a beer ;)
[00:45] <archman> 2nd
[00:45] <archman> it's ok
[00:45] <andypls1> fearful ok i'll try tomorrow again
[00:45] <LaGeek> archman like linux xp
[00:45] <LH{> hehe
[00:45] <fearful> andypls1: I'll keep searching for answers will you be logged in?
[00:45] <archman> LaGeek: i don't know if it's possible, sorry
[00:46] <LaGeek> a ubuntu but will look just like xp :D or vista :D and i can sell it like them :D
[00:46] <andypls1> no
[00:46] <andypls1> do you want to email me fearful?
[00:46] <fearful> andypls1: Is your clock set to 2009?
[00:46] <andypls1> fearful yes
[00:46] <fearful> andypls1: Please I will e-mail you with a response
[00:46] <ethana2> How does one put their machine to sleep via the CLI?
[00:46] <archman> LaGeek: why don't simply google for xp ubuntu theme?
[00:46] <ethana2> (suspend to ram)
[00:47] <andypls1> fearful ok thanks, did you get my email?
[00:48] <freazer> hey all! I just wanted to brag: thanks for the help!  for pkg in `dpkg --get-selections|awk '{print $1}'| egrep -v'(dpkg|apt)'`; do sudo apt-get install --reinstall $pkg -y; done    -- it's crunching through my package list right now!
[00:49] <archman> LaGeek: planning some intrusion with this trick? ;)
[00:49] <Joker_-_> nightrid3r: it works for VLC and all, but mythbuntu won't play the DVD trough the interface... any tips?
[00:49] <ethana2> freazer: that would be amazing functionality in an OS if it had a gui...
[00:49] <ethana2> and launchpad integration
[00:49] <tekteen> freazer: that is nothing. I made a bash script to parse the faa site. :-P.
[00:50] <LH{> archman, instead of mounting the iso im just extracting it then using the setup
[00:50] <zcat[1]> W00T! Modem is answering AT commands. Will assume that probably means it's working (no phone line here so can't actually test it any further ;)
[00:50] <LH{> just wondering who here uses photoshop on ubuntu
[00:50] <archman> LH{> i don't think it'll work...
[00:50] <Eisenhorn> How do I go about reenabling wireless after it was killed by failed hibernating? nm-applet doesn't do anything.
[00:50] <LH{> hmm
[00:50] <archman> LH{> you can't extract an iso
[00:51] <archman> youll get nothing
[00:51] <archman> practically
[00:51] <LH{> oh
[00:51] <LH{> ill have to mount it then xD
[00:51] <archman> LH{> !iso
[00:51] <_VIM_> LH{: i was only able to get CS2 working on wine :(   so I use CS4 in a win xp VM
[00:51] <LH{> VM?
[00:51] <LH{> !iso
[00:51] <_VIM_> Virtual Machine
[00:51] <_VIM_> Virtualbox
[00:51] <LH{> whats the mountpoint
[00:51] <zcat[1]> actually my phone line at home is also VOIP so it might be a while before I get to test it... need a plain analog line ;) Why I want this modem working is a total mystery to me...
[00:52] <archman> LH{> /media/cdrom ??
[00:52] <LH{> oh i was used to d drive lol
[00:52] <Dartel> Any idea why Ubuntu sees and mounts my cheap 16 gig flash drive but not my 4 gig?
[00:52] <archman> LH{> LOL
[00:52] <yoyoned> LH{: you can mount it inywhere you want.  U normally use .mnt/iso
[00:52] <archman> zcat[1] welcome to the club!
[00:53] <LH{> archman, IT WORKED
[00:53] <LH{> YAY
[00:53] <archman> LH{> enjoy
[00:53] <LH{> cdrom0 popped up
[00:53] <archman> LH{> now...u see setup file
[00:53] <archman> ?
[00:53] <FiReSTaRT> nightrid3r: it was openoffice.. they must have changed something up b/c the key wasn't necessary b4
[00:53] <LH{> autoplay
[00:53] <FiReSTaRT> thanks :)
[00:53] <Dartel> LH: shouldn't it slide out not pop up?
[00:53] <archman> LH{> nope, other
[00:53] <LH{> I see the setup.exe
[00:53] <archman> LH{> thats the one!!
[00:54] <FiReSTaRT> and thank you archman :)
[00:54] <zcat[1]> archman: Mostly just because I have everything else on the laptop working, it never even occured to me that there was a modem but having just noticed it, I now feel compelled to have that working as well!
[00:54] <archman> np fire
[00:54] <LH{> do I wine setup.exe in terminal
[00:54] <Safe> If I have 2 NICs, how do I disable eth1?
[00:54] <archman> LH{> that's right!
[00:54] <freazer> thanks for all the help over the past two days everyone!
[00:55] <archman> youre welcome
[00:55] <LH{> so  wine /media/cdrom/setup.exe
[00:55] <archman> freazer here are some nice people willing to help, i get help often, im a noob, lets say
[00:55] <archman> LH{> cdrom0?
[00:55] <zcat[1]> zcat@mbeki:~$ date -d @1234567890
[00:55] <zcat[1]> Sat Feb 14 12:31:30 NZDT 2009
[00:55] <LH{> cd yeh
[00:55] <zcat[1]> hehehe
[00:56] <LH{> thats where the iso is mounted
[00:56] <archman> LH{> if its mounted to cdrom0, then that.
[00:56] <Safe> Is it even possible to disable it?
[00:56] <MoTec> heh, yeah.. unix date<PHONE_NUMBER> coming soon :)
[00:56] <LH{> how do I access that? do i need root
[00:56] <archman> LH{> no, did you cd to it?
[00:57] <LH{> i can only cd to /home/user
[00:57] <archman> LH{> LOL, you cant use root with wine, write:
[00:57] <archman> cd /media/cdrom0
[00:58] <LH{> ok
[00:58] <LH{> worked lol
[00:58] <LH{> yay cheers
[00:58] <archman> cant=you shouldn've
[00:58] <archman> you did wine setup?
[00:58] <rk_> when  i start sshd it says could not load host key:/etc/ssh/ssh_host_rsa_key ... its not important, isnt it? i mean... thats the comp who is running the server, it only need authorized_keys and thats all
[00:58] <archman> LH{> i'm out of beer...:(
[00:58] <Stefano> sorry, I use sudo smbmount //<IP_ADDRESS>/stefano Desktop/dirStefano -o rw to mount a remote samba share on 8.10 from a 8.04. Can I put it as it is in /etc/fstab?
[00:58] <LH{> ok it popped up with wine
[00:59] <LH{> I think its working
[00:59] <LH{> raging archman !
[00:59] <_VIM_> !away > woodaway
[00:59] <archman> LH{> ok, you're on your own now, good luck ;)
[00:59] <LH{> hahah thanks alot!!
[00:59] <LH{> linux community is awesome
[00:59] <archman> np youre welcome to ubuntu community!
[00:59] <LH{> ty
[00:59] <LH{> xD
[01:00] <LH{> i already got compiz and new themes etc
[01:00] <LH{> and this is my first day haha
[01:00] <archman> ;)
[01:00] <archman> wow, you enjoy
[01:00] <archman> then
[01:00] <archman> and be prepared to be pissed off, sometimes ;)
[01:00] <_VIM_> that's a given
[01:00] <LH{> yeh lol
[01:00] <_VIM_> hehe
[01:00] <archman> LH{> intrepid?
[01:01] <LH{> whats that
[01:01] <archman> LH{> what version of ubuntu LOL?
[01:01] <LH{> lol
[01:01] <LH{> 8.10
[01:01] <LH{> numbers!
[01:01] <archman> intrepid ibex then
[01:01] <LH{> its fun
[01:01] <archman> LH{> i upgraded from gutsy yesterdy
[01:01] <LH{> hotkeys for everything
[01:01] <LH{> how do you find it
[01:01] <archman> and i can tell you, believe my, ubuntu is better nowadays
[01:02] <LH{> i like it, i just need to get photoshop up and IM sorted!
[01:02] <Stefano> I use sudo smbmount //<IP_ADDRESS>/stefano Desktop/dirStefano -o rw to mount a remote samba share on 8.10 from a 8.04. Can I put it as it is in /etc/fstab?
[01:02] <hoonteke1> I'm running intrepid on a dell vostro.  The blue blinking wireless led is ... annoying at best.  Is there a way to turn it off *while still using my wireless*?
[01:02] <LH{> im on dualboot with xp so its good
[01:02] <archman> LH{> i'm out of here, been a pleasure, night all! ;)
[01:02] <LH{> bye bye thanks for the halp
[01:02] <archman> ty
[01:02] <archman> and
[01:02] <archman> if youre not a gamer, believe me, no use of dual boot
[01:02] <archman> its vintage!
[01:03] <archman> use virtual machine, like vmware...
[01:03] <MoTec> Stefano: yes.  Add a line something like:  //ntserver/docs /mnt/samba smbfs username=docsadm,password=D1Y4x9sw 0 0
[01:03] <archman> bye
[01:03] <Dartel> I will miss WOW :-(
[01:03] <_VIM_> wow works on wine
[01:03] <archman> WOW works on wine, i believe
[01:04] <Stefano> MoTec, username and password are the ones from the PC where I do the mount, isn't it?
[01:04] <_2> is it possable to mount an audio cd ?
[01:04] <MoTec> Stefano: yes, for the remote system.  whatever credentials you'd enter when you map that share.
[01:04] <Dartel> System wont run wowo
[01:04] <LH{> WOW WOW lol
[01:04] <Zenitur> Does anybody play Worms Armageddon?
[01:04] <h00k> I am having some lag problems with Docky (nVidia 177.82, x86_64 kernel), has anyone had problems with docky lagging?
[01:05] <Stefano> MoTec, thank you very much
[01:05] <LH{> Zenitur, back in the day!
[01:05] <Dartel> Never played Worms
[01:05] <LH{> is that the 2d one
[01:05] <MoTec> You're welcome
[01:05] <Dartel> Makes the BASS ignore them
[01:06] <G-Bleezy> whats another terminal text editor that's installed by default besides 'vi'?
[01:06] <G-Bleezy> vi is so unintuative it makes no sense
[01:06] <MoTec> nano
[01:06] <_2> anyone know if it's possable to mount an audio cd ?
[01:06] <Ace2016_-> Hi all
[01:06] <Zenitur> LH, this game does not die with time. This is all time game like an quake
[01:06] <MoTec> G-Bleezy: nano
[01:06]  * _VIM_ smacks G-Bleezy hey now!
[01:06] <Ace2016_-> if gnome has tasks on the bottom bar, what does it have on the top bar?
[01:06] <_VIM_> there is a GUI vi you know
[01:06] <Zenitur> G-Bleezy, pico
[01:06] <Zenitur> or nano
[01:07] <G-Bleezy> sweet
[01:07] <zash> Ace2016_-: whatevery you want
[01:07] <h00k> G-Bleezy: vim is pretty powerful if you take some time to get to know it
[01:07] <Dartel> Ok... I need to stop that
[01:07] <G-Bleezy> pico = nano
[01:07] <kholerabbi> can I label my ntfs partition? (rather than 80gb media)?
[01:07] <Zenitur> yea.
[01:07] <zash> Ace2016_-: you can move most stuff around and customize all you want
[01:07] <Ace2016_-> zash: oh ok
[01:07] <G-Bleezy> how do i get Xchat to save my nick name and stuff?
[01:08] <LH{> does notepad++ work with ubuntu, anyone know a good coding program
[01:08] <LH{> css php etc
[01:08] <Flannel> LH{: Try SCiTE, it's based on the same thing as notepad++
[01:08] <zash> LH{: scite is based on the same lib as notepad++
[01:08] <Zenitur> LH, KDevelop
[01:08] <G-Bleezy> LH{: i saw an editor for coders listed in the packages list
[01:08] <G-Bleezy> i think KDevelop is what i saw...
[01:08] <LH{> cool ill try them all haha
[01:08] <MoTec> scite is good stuff for windows
[01:08] <Ace2016_-> ever wonder if we'll run out of app names?
[01:08] <Ace2016_-> sry offtopic
[01:08] <MoTec> LH{: Eclipse might do what you want
[01:08] <LH{> ace2001ac7, theres always numbers haha
[01:09] <zash> LH{: vim ftw!
[01:09] <tekteen> ace2001ac7: I have seen some programs with the same name that do the same thing, very confusing "-)
[01:09] <MoTec> LH{: kate, scite, gedit, geany, quanta+
[01:09] <_2> LH{ nah i already used the first 10k numbers as command names.
[01:10] <LH{> just gotSCiTE
[01:10] <LaGeek> i am going home i have a new ubuntu ultimate edition to play with
[01:10] <LH{> _2 :P
[01:10] <LaGeek> FUN TIME
[01:10] <_2> LH{ for real
[01:10] <zash> ULTIMATE!
[01:10] <LH{> scite looks good for the moment hehe
[01:10] <LaGeek> yeah 2.0 zash
[01:11] <Dartel> Now all I need is to figure out how to get usenet working and a decent free usenet provider and this will be maxed out for comunication and information
[01:12] <LH{> I never tried usenet in years
[01:12] <Dartel> Comcast dropped it
[01:12] <_VIM_> comcast stopped their usenet :(((  so I too am looking for one
[01:12] <_2> anyone know if it's possable to mount an audio cd ?
[01:12] <_VIM_> omg Dartel get out of my head :)
[01:12] <Dartel> Echo echo
[01:12] <h00k> G-Bleezy: vim is pretty powerful if you take some time to get to know it
[01:12] <h00k> ach, wrong button
[01:13] <LH{> hehe
[01:13] <h00k> I am having some lag problems with Docky (nVidia 177.82, x86_64 kernel), has anyone had problems with docky lagging?
[01:13] <LH{> h00k, what is VIM
[01:13] <ZiRiS> would someone please tell me the command to 'copy' a file from one location to another inside a term window, please?
[01:13] <Dartel> Didn't I read that 20 min ago?
[01:13] <Tr3y-> ZiRis cp
[01:13] <LH{> i keep thinkin its _VIM_ haha
[01:13] <h00k> LHC: vim, vi, same thing
[01:13] <MoTec> astraweb.com still do free usenet access?
[01:13] <h00k> !vim
[01:13] <LHC> oh btw
[01:14] <LHC> i logged in as lhc and lh{
[01:14] <MoTec> !code
[01:14] <LHC> opps lol
[01:14] <MoTec> kate, quanta, eclipse... i win!
[01:14] <ZiRiS> Tr3y-: tyvm
[01:14] <Tr3y-> I've never been a fan of vim usually use nano :-P
[01:15] <_VIM_> haters
[01:15] <_VIM_> :P
[01:15] <Tr3y-> lol
[01:15]  * _2 just uses mc for his editing
[01:15] <Dartel> I still do not understand virtual machines.. they still need real life resources like memory and such right?
[01:15] <Scunizi> I've got an iso of ubuntu server.. usually I use k3b to burn but since it's not installed on this box I'd give whatever the native app is a shot.. where do I find it and how do I use it?
[01:16] <Dexi> Does such a thing exist that would allow me to right-click on a picture and upload it to imageshack or something like that? the same as "Send file" but "upload"
[01:16] <ScottG489> I just created a new lager partition for swap space so that I could hibernate, but when I hibernate and start back up its just as if im doing a fresh restart. I'm guessing hibernate doesnt know the new location of my swap partition? What do I need to do?
[01:16] <_VIM_> Dartel: oh yeah theres no getting around that
[01:16] <rgotten> anybody has try webmin agains ebox
[01:16] <Scunizi> Nevermind.. Brassero and once loaded it's pretty self explainitory..
[01:16] <Zenitur> suse 10.1 have nice programs. And many. By default. 15 text editors, 10 media players, 5 3D-editors... I like this path, not a minimal. But since 10.2 (Microsoft agression) it is minimal too.
[01:17] <[T]ank> i need a good, easy, n00b friendly program to burn a mp4 video to a dvd disk to play in a dvd player. Can anyone make a recommendation?
[01:17] <_VIM_> Dartel: VM's just let you use different OS's inside other OS's, so like you can run Windows XP inside Ubuntu and viceversa, of course you'd need the Windows cd or .iso file...
[01:17] <_2> ouch oomk !                 kooka seems to have a bug
[01:17] <fearful> [T]ank: Have you tried Brasero? I don't know if it burns mp4 but you can try
[01:17] <[T]ank> looking
[01:17] <Dartel> So say I have a quad core system 4 gig ram per core I can set up 4-8 Vrt Machines?
[01:17] <Zenitur> They want to make distros low power and make windows 7. They are not partner of gnu/linux.They are killers
[01:18] <Scunizi> [T]ank: k3b
[01:18] <[T]ank> brasero looks like it may do it.
[01:18] <_VIM_> Dartel: easily
[01:18] <Zenitur> Tank, TkDVD.
[01:18] <Dartel> Ahhh
[01:18] <rgotten> which is better to use webmin or  ebox to manage ubuntu server
[01:18] <_VIM_> Dartel: and oddly enough, Win xp runs FASTER in Virtualbox than without Virtuualbox
[01:18] <Tr3y-> Anyone have any suggestions for 3d editing for *nix
[01:18] <Tr3y-> and don't say blender please
[01:18] <MoTec> ebox, apparently webmin isn't supported for ubuntu
[01:18] <Dartel> Hmm. Ubuntu/xp/vista/amiga/Mac machine :-)
[01:19] <Zenitur> VIM, cool
[01:19] <_VIM_> !webmin
[01:19] <_2> maybe i'll try to do all my "kooka" stuff on debian  ;/
[01:19] <fearful> [T]ank: You can also try DeVeDe
[01:19] <rgotten> i know that ebox is supported, but: ebox does not have command line line like webmin, and you are installing like a server on top of a server
[01:20] <h00k> [T]ank: I've had good luck with DeVeDe, also
[01:20] <Dartel> Well VIM that makes sense, as its not running the resourse directly but has a more efficient OS supplying it right?
[01:20] <_VIM_> Dartel: something to that effect, yes.
[01:20] <endeavormac> so i'm looking at all the traffic coming out of my machine when i connect it to a network. What daemon is spitting out ssdp packets?
[01:21] <Dartel> I am a 2 day old Linux user VIM forgive my ignorance LOL I am struggling to learn the new and wonderful
[01:21] <_2> _VIM_ "runs faster" most likely for some of the same reasons that games run too fast and are uncontrolable, i.e. timers are emulated poorly or not at all.
[01:21] <rk_> how do i generate /etc/ssh/ssh_host_dsa_key and /etc/ssh/ssh_host_rsa_key ?
[01:21] <_VIM_> !pm | rgotten
[01:21] <MoTec> rk_: installing sshd package should generate those
[01:21] <netdur> latest ubuntu & firefox, firefox freeze few seconds every two/three minutes
[01:22] <_VIM_> Dartel: you're doing just fine... :)
[01:22] <rgotten> please explain your comment since i am new into this
[01:22] <LHC> oh shit .avi is glitchy when played
[01:22] <MoTec> rk_: meaning, since it's installed by default, they should be already generated.
[01:22] <LHC> is this the norm?
[01:22] <h00k> I am having some lag problems with Docky (nVidia 177.82, x86_64 kernel), has anyone had problems with Docky lagging?
[01:22] <rk_> MoTec,  ive got it installated, but when i run it it says could not load host key:  /etc/ssh/ssh_host_dsa_key
[01:22] <Dartel> Surely someone has come up with a step timer to emulate what speeds are needed?
[01:22] <endeavormac> nevermind, tracked it down to pidgin
[01:22] <ZiRiS> I installed a fresh install of kubuntu after the same issue happened in ubuntu. I installed the recommended driver for my vid card (nVidia 8600GT) and rebooted, but xserver won't load. So I'm trying to copy the files listed previously and a few others to try to fix this. anyone else have a suggestion?
[01:23] <MoTec> rk_: do a ssh-keygen -t dsa -f /etc/ssh/ssh_host_dsa_key
[01:23] <ZiRiS> Sorry, listed previously in #kubuntu, Xorg.conf.*
[01:23] <MoTec> and a ssh-keygen -t rsa -f /etc/ssh/ssh_host_rsa_key
[01:23] <_2> LHC .avi is only a container. the format makes lots of differance   and the short answer is NO, not if you use the correct libs and codecs
[01:23] <_VIM_> LHC: you're probably just missing the good codecs, have you tried sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras and enabled the medibuntu repos?
[01:24] <_VIM_> !medibuntu
[01:24] <LHC> _VIM_, ill try that now
[01:24] <LHC> _2 thanks
[01:24] <Dartel> Ubuntu did restricted extras just for my wireless
[01:24] <rgotten> ubottu:  please explain your comment since i am new into this, i am trying to find why everybody likes ebox compare with webmin, i have play with the 2 and it seems that webmin is more complete and friendly, i am a newby and since _answered Webmin, i was trying to get more information, i did not know that that was such a bad think, anyway, can somebody help me clarify
[01:25] <LHC> _VIM_, does that give me all the codecs
[01:25] <_VIM_> LHC: Most of the more popular ones, I donno bout "all" of them though...
[01:25] <looter> how do i know which desktop environment i'm using?
[01:25] <LHC> ahh
[01:25] <LHC> thanks for that!
[01:25] <MoTec> !webmin
[01:25] <LHC> hopefully itll play my avis
[01:25] <fearful> looter: lsb_release -a
[01:25] <_VIM_> np
[01:25] <fearful> looter: on the terminal
[01:26] <looter> gotcha
[01:26] <ZiRiS> looter: what color is your bootup screen? blue or orange?
[01:26] <MoTec> rgotten: I prefer webmin also.. but it doesn't handle config files like unbuntu does.
[01:26] <lstarnes> fearful: I don't think that shows the current desktop environment
[01:26] <_2> !freedom > rgotten
[01:26] <looter> orange
[01:26] <fearful> lstarnes: It should say Ubuntu or Kubuntu
[01:26] <rk_> MoTec, i did, and i think the files are there but it keeps sying could not start sshd :S
[01:26] <looter> and lsb said "no lsb modules are available"
[01:27] <_2> rgotten you might find part of your answer in the idea of freedom
[01:27] <ZiRiS> looter: you're running gnome
[01:27] <lstarnes> fearful: I think it always says ubuntu
[01:27] <Kryzler> !Spotify
[01:27] <Kryzler> damn ¬_¬
[01:27] <fearful> lstarnes: Really, well good to know I thought it said specifically
[01:27] <looter> ok... but is there a way i can verify that?  not that I don't believe you
[01:27] <Dartel> Gnome here too
[01:27] <lstarnes> looter: do you have a bar at the top and the bottom of the screen?
[01:27] <Kryzler> Anyone know if there is a Linux release of Spotify?
[01:27] <looter> top and bottom
[01:27] <ZiRiS> lstarnes: no, kubuntu says kubuntu
[01:27] <kjell> Kryzler: Run spotify under wine, works great.
[01:27] <MoTec> rk_: did you install sshd by running 'sudo apt-get install sshd' ?
[01:27] <rk_> yep
[01:27] <Dartel> I set both mine at the top
[01:27] <ZiRiS> kde here, and I like it so far, if i can get my vid working
[01:28] <lstarnes> looter: do you see "Applications", "Places", and "System" in the top bar?
[01:28] <looter> i'm  running ubuntu 8.10 btw and I'm pretty sure its gnome but I just wanted to verify
[01:28] <MoTec> rk_: hmm, might be apt-get install ssh
[01:28] <looter> lstarnes: yes
[01:28] <LHC> _VIM_, this screen came
[01:28] <Kryzler> k thanks kjell :D
[01:28] <rods> Quick question -- does 3d virtualization mean hardware acceleration?
[01:28] <lstarnes> looter: then that is gnome
[01:28] <LHC> up sayin configuring sun-java6-bin
[01:28] <kjell> Kryzler: No problem.
[01:28] <rk_> MoTec, well yeah, ssh
[01:28]  * ZiRiS is running kubuntu after ubuntu failed
[01:28] <_2> looter  the command requires a switch.  "lsb-release -a
[01:28] <lstarnes> looter: also, check system > about gnome
[01:28] <fearful> ZiRis: Why did Ubuntu fail?
[01:28] <_VIM_> LHC: yeah you have to hit TAB key so it goes to the "OK" or what not
[01:28] <looter> 2: i did run it with the switch
[01:28] <_2> looter  the command requires a switch.  "lsb_release -a"   sorry.
[01:28] <ZiRiS> I installed a fresh install of kubuntu after the same issue happened in ubuntu. I installed the recommended driver for my vid card (nVidia 8600GT) and rebooted, but xserver won't load. So I'm trying to copy the files listed previously and a few others to try to fix this. anyone else have a suggestion?
[01:28] <Dartel> Vid works but not all the resolutions I had in windows stuck at 800x600 60hz
[01:28] <ZiRiS> Sorry, listed previously in #kubuntu, Xorg.conf.*
[01:29] <looter> lstarnes: ty
[01:29] <LHC> ahah _VIM_ i was scared there
[01:29] <LHC> enter didnt work haha
[01:29] <ZiRiS> and xorg.*
[01:29] <_VIM_> lol yeah that Java agreement gets everyone
[01:29] <seam0nster> can someone PLEASE help me install my install edimax ew-7318usg  usb wifi thing, for the love of god! or whom ever would also be nice to be loved by...
[01:29] <LHC> LOL
[01:29] <h00k> I am having some lag problems with Docky (nVidia 177.82, x86_64 kernel), has anyone had problems with Docky lagging?
[01:29] <mib_e3nmyp> hi guys, I was wondering if someone could help me with instaling ubuntu 8.10
[01:29] <fearful> sure
[01:30] <kjell> mib_e3nmyp: Do you have any special problem or just need guidance?
[01:30] <_2> looter you can also look to see what code name is in your etc/apt/sources.list
[01:30] <ZiRiS> mib_e3nmyp: whatcha got? whats the issue, specifically?
[01:30] <LHC> _VIM_, what player do you use?
[01:30] <mib_e3nmyp> My question is: can I install ubuntu from my HD and not a CD Drive
[01:30] <seam0nster> i googled this up and down, what am i doing wrong ?
[01:30] <ZiRiS> mib_e3nmyp: or are you just in need of guidance?
[01:30] <mib_e3nmyp> because I dont have any more CD-R
[01:30] <seam0nster> HALP PLEEZ!
[01:30] <_VIM_> LHC: VLC
[01:30] <LHC> cool
[01:31] <ZiRiS> mib_e3nmyp: ooooo! good question. I don't know, perhaps someone else does?
[01:31] <Dartel> also under SYSTEM there is a "about Gnome" in mine should be in yours
[01:31] <kjell> mib_e3nmyp: If you run Windows you can install it through there and still have windows on the computer.
[01:31] <fearful> mib_e3nmyp: You can also boot out of a USB
[01:31] <kjell> mib_e3nmyp: Or USB as fearful says
[01:31] <_VIM_> !players | LHC (but there's many others...)
[01:31] <mib_e3nmyp> kjell: how do I do that
[01:31] <kjell> mib_e3nmyp: I would do USB if I were you.
[01:31] <LHC> so sudo apt-get install VLC
[01:31] <caranguejo-PE> a
[01:31] <freazer> Hi all! One more issue. When I try to install packages, dpkg tells me I must run "dpkg --configure -a" first -- so I do that: update-initram is broken and won't let me continue: Fatal: Not all RAID-1 disks are active; use '-H' to install to active disks only" - "dpkg: subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1" - how do I clear this from my cache? I want to skip over this one - I've found that this is a known
[01:31] <_VIM_> LHC: , yep
[01:31] <LHC> kk
[01:31] <_2> LHC no caps
[01:31] <_VIM_> yeah no caps with apps
[01:31] <kjell> mib_e3nmyp: Wubi does it. Although I think ubuntu came with an official application?
[01:31] <Dartel> VLC rocks
[01:32] <ZiRiS> mib_e3nmyp: go get the iso, install alcohol (if in windows presently) and then run it, it will allow you to install from within windows, without rebooting.
[01:32] <_VIM_> good catch -2
[01:32] <LHC> kk _2
[01:32] <_VIM_> _2 even
[01:32] <mib_e3nmyp> I am currently running a dual boot if Vista and XP and would like to delete Vista ( I knwo you guys can't help out there) and dual boot ubuntu and xp if possible
[01:32] <kjell> ZiRiS: Ah, so the ISO contains the windows-installer aswell?
[01:32] <_2> :)
[01:32] <seam0nster> If someone can help me i shall name my first born after you, or anything you decide !
[01:32] <fearful> ZiRis: I don't recommend him using Wubi tho, might as well dual-boot
[01:32] <Dartel> What is the BEST lossless audio format?
[01:32] <kjell> seam0nster: With what?
[01:32] <h00k> I am having some lag problems with Docky (nVidia 177.82, x86_64 kernel), has anyone had problems with Docky lagging?
[01:32] <LHC> how come you can just type a programs name and it goes installs it, are these files hosted on ubuntu's own servers
[01:32] <ZiRiS> mib_e3nmyp: I'm a windows expert, ubuntu newB
[01:32] <ZiRiS> pm
[01:32] <freazer> mib_e3nymp: that's easy, use a LiveCD and Gparted (System -> Administration -> Partition Editor) and just delete the Vista partition. the installer will then let you guide through to install Ubuntu on the free partition
[01:33] <fearful> Windows blows really
[01:33] <fearful> lol
[01:33] <seam0nster> Kjell: i need to install an edimax ew-7318usg usb wifi device
[01:33] <ZiRiS> fearful: agreed, hence the switch to ubunutu
[01:33] <mib_e3nmyp> wait, so I can still keep X
[01:33] <mib_e3nmyp> XP
[01:33] <fearful> I haven't used windows since Fiesty
[01:33] <ZiRiS> mib_e3nmyp: yes
[01:33] <The_Rebel> whats the best app for mounting images? (what has the most support all the image types out there?)
[01:33] <mib_e3nmyp> so I download the new ubuntu 8.10
[01:33] <mib_e3nmyp> then what?
[01:34] <_2> The_Rebel mount
[01:34] <fearful> mib_e3nmyp: You need to create a new partition to install your ubuntu system
[01:34] <seam0nster> i have the tutorial i can paste bin in the linux driver folder, i just don't understand it!
[01:34] <LHC> _VIM_, vlc still flickers
[01:34] <Jungle_Man> ext2 or  3
[01:34] <mib_e3nmyp> fearful: can I do that from XP
[01:34] <_2> fearful or use wubi
[01:34] <kjell> Jungle_Man: I'd use 3
[01:34] <fearful> Or use wubi
[01:34] <mib_e3nmyp> and can I delete Vista from XP
[01:34] <ZiRiS> mib_e3nmyp: install Alcohol 120% and then mount the iso, run the official app, and you're good, however, I would suggest another method than using the linux app to delete the partition
[01:34] <rgotten> can anybody expalin to me how is an easy way to follow this irc, i am a newby and is hard to follow any question posted here
[01:34] <_2> !wubi
[01:34] <The_Rebel> a frontend would be nice..
[01:34] <freazer> No help for my question above? I just want to tell dpkg to forget about configuring initramfs-tools, I've already ran LILO -H and it's fine now - so I can continue on installing other packages
[01:35] <_VIM_> LHC: hmm no clue lol
[01:35] <LHC> haha
[01:35] <_2> The_Rebel a frount end for the mount command...   </rolls eyes>
[01:35] <fearful> mib_e3nmyp: I would suggest you try installing it through wubi, and I would download MagicISO instead, free and specifically to mount images.
[01:35] <rgotten> ubottu: do you want me to close the PM
[01:35] <mib_e3nmyp> ZiRiS: but when I do that won,t my boot order be screwed?
[01:35] <chalcedony> I'm trying to backup my files to upgrade to 8.10. does this mean that these are in root?  http://paste.ubuntu.com/115836/
[01:35] <prince_jammys> rgotten: use tab completion to autocomplete the nickname of whoever you're talking to, so the nick is highlighted. example: prin<tab key>
[01:35] <_2> !bot | rgotten
[01:35] <fearful> mib_e3nmyp: Not if you use Wubi, it won't install the GRUB you'll use windows boot loader
[01:36] <Dartel> rgotten: Gets ruff, I was a Channel admin so used to fast scrolling
[01:36] <mib_e3nmyp> ok, so fearful: last question, do you know how to delete the vista partition from xp
[01:36] <mib_e3nmyp> without corrupting the boot order
[01:36] <mib_e3nmyp> bcz when I do that b4 I cant boot into XP anymore
[01:36] <fearful> mib_e3nmyp: As I said I don't use windows so I wouldn't know :S
[01:36] <ZiRiS> mib_e3nmyp: check your pm
[01:36] <rgotten> Dartel: i am 78 year old who is trying to learn all this new technology, i can bet you is not easy
[01:36] <Kryzler> Dartel how come "was" an admin, not "is" an admin?
[01:37] <mib_e3nmyp> sorry, checking pm
[01:37] <ZiRiS> s'ok
[01:37] <chalcedony> rgotten: congratulations for trying new things :)
[01:37] <seam0nster> ;_;
[01:37] <fearful> afk having dinner
[01:37] <_2> mib_e3nmyp maybe you could just change the partition type and format it to something linux could use ?   just a thought.
[01:37] <drash> chalcedony: the paste indicates these files are in /var and owned by root yes
[01:37] <seam0nster> Why so complicated ubuntu?!
[01:37] <Kryzler> !ubottu
[01:37] <chalcedony> drash: ty much :)
[01:37] <Jungle_Man> How to use grub if I install Ubuntu before XP
[01:37]  * The_Rebel mounts _2's backend
[01:37] <seam0nster> why!
[01:37] <zcat[1]> !grub
[01:37] <Dartel> rgotten: LOL Age and technology are wonderful companions both need patience
[01:38] <Jungle_Man> It cannot boot
[01:38] <freazer> Jungle_Man: use a LiveCD to reinstall GRUB into the MBR
[01:38] <drash> chalcedony: you're welcome ... try running your backup routine with sudo (or gksudo for GUI app) and you're good to go
[01:38] <zcat[1]> pretty easy to put grub back. tricky part is setting it up to boot windows afterwards. if you install windows first that gets done for you
[01:38] <seam0nster> thanks anyway :(
[01:38] <Jungle_Man> Thanks
[01:38] <Dartel> Kryzler: Was several years ago and not on a Linux Channel but still a busy one
[01:38] <Kryzler> I see
[01:39] <xenocide21> how does apt-get work?
[01:39] <_2> zcat[1] tricky ?
[01:39] <xenocide21> *is used to SourceMage*
[01:39] <freazer> Nobody knows how to get rid of this silly dpkg --configure -a issue? I thought you all said Windows was trash but I've never had an automatic update cause this much trouble!
[01:39] <zcat[1]> less-easy than having the installer do it for you.
[01:39] <_2> !apt | xenocide21
[01:40] <xenocide21> thanks
[01:40] <rgotten> prince_jammys: if i port a question how can i track who answer me, therre is a lot of answer at all times
[01:40] <Dartel> Kryzler: Was several years ago and not on a Linux Channel but still a busy onewhat are you using to access IRC now?
[01:40] <chalcedony> rgotten: my best friend on undernet is 73, can you accept msg?
[01:41] <zcat[1]> rgotten: use an irc client that highlights messages with your name in them..
[01:41] <Dartel> GRRrr
[01:41] <Safe> It can't matter if I have 32bit or 64bit version if I'm having connection troubles, right?
[01:41] <Kryzler> Dartel I'm using xchat
[01:41] <Kryzler> why do you ask?
[01:41] <chalcedony> i use xchat
[01:41] <rgotten> zcat[1] any examples
[01:41] <zcat[1]> xchat
[01:42] <Dartel> Same here
[01:42] <endeavormac> does interpid come with gnome dock?
[01:42] <drash> freazer: have you read through "man dpkg" to check if there's a relevant option for your predicament ?
[01:42] <Kryzler> I like making pointless custom commands in xchat
[01:42] <The_Rebel> rock out with your dock out.
[01:42] <Jungle_Man> Chose Ubuntu 32 or 64 if I have Intel dual core
[01:42] <rgotten> zcat[1]: is it free?
[01:42] <kindofabuzz> lawl
[01:42] <Dartel> Was a Mistake actually I ment to direct to rgotten
[01:42] <The_Rebel> and no it doesn't
[01:42] <lstarnes> rgotten: almost everything on ubuntu is free
[01:42] <endeavormac> well why when i apt-get install gnome-dock, it tells me it's already installed?
[01:42] <_2> anyone know if it's possable to mount an audio cd ?
[01:42] <zcat[1]> freazer: so sudo dpkg --configure -a isn't fixing the problem?
[01:42] <The_Rebel> wait.. i think your talking about a different dock..
[01:43] <Zenitur> Does somebody play Worms Armageddon?
[01:43] <The_Rebel> i thought you meant gnome-do's dock..
[01:43] <_2> rgotten free as in speach and free as in beer
[01:43] <endeavormac> wait nvm
[01:43] <tsrk> what does a backslash after a command do?
[01:43] <Dartel> Is Xchat as macro friendly as mIRC?
[01:43] <The_Rebel> which is still a work in progress i thinks..
[01:43] <tsrk> like "man ls \"
[01:43] <lstarnes> Dartel: xchat does have scripting
[01:43] <The_Rebel> awn-dock is the best i can find
[01:43] <rgotten> Dartel: that is what i am trying to do with a lot of pacience
[01:43] <lstarnes> Dartel: however, I personally think irssi has the best irc scripting
[01:44] <Kryzler> tsrk in thatsense it does nothing
[01:44] <xmedex> hello world
[01:44] <zcat[1]> freazer: have got myself into situations like that before.. can't remember how I found my way out though
[01:44] <freazer> drash: I just did dpkg -r -a and despite not doing what the man page says it does (it was not pending to be removed, it was pending installation) dpkg --configure -a is now saying nothing - which is what I wanted, thanks
[01:44] <_2> tsrk bash: command " not found
[01:44] <arghh2d2> tsrk: i think it waits for more input
[01:44] <tsrk> Kryzler, no, it did something, it just gave me a prompt that said ">" instead of opening the man page
[01:44] <rgotten> so who can help me to compare ebox from webmin
[01:44] <tsrk> arghh2d2, oh, so multiple lines of text for one command?
[01:44] <xmedex> someone can help me??
[01:44] <erisco> I am having huge problems with wireless. After an arbitrary amount of time, but often, I am completely unable to access anything on my network as though I was disconnected. However, Ubuntu still states that I am indeed connected. After disconnecting and reconnecting the connection comes back. what is going on?
[01:44] <Kryzler> trsk, that > probably means that you'c
[01:44] <chalcedony> xmedex: try asking a question instead of just saying hi :)
[01:45] <drash> freazer: odd indeed, yw
[01:45] <freazer> zcat[1]: thanks for the assurance ^^ it's a known bug with dpkg and update-initramfs with a partially functioning raid array - there's no way to pass the -H parameter that it insists on to continue the installation. I'm slowly muddling through
[01:45] <_2> tsrk what exactly are you trying to do ?
[01:45] <Kryzler> *you've altered the directory >.<
[01:45] <arghh2d2> tsrk: somtin like that, the command preceding the backslash affect your options at the >
[01:45] <tsrk> _2, i accidently added a backslash and wanted to know what it's doing
[01:45] <tsrk> arghh2d2, ok
[01:45] <_2> tsrk ok press   ctrl+d
[01:45] <xmedex> i've a trouible using 3com switch baseline 2226 plus
[01:45] <zcat[1]> > means you have an unfinished command; usually a missing " or ' or mismatched ( somewhere
[01:45] <tsrk> _2, i already used ctrl-c, what's ctrl-d do?
[01:45] <arghh2d2> you mean ctrl-c
[01:46] <Zenitur> It is possible to applyWA patch to wine 1.1.14?
[01:46] <fernando> hello
[01:46] <The_Rebel> didn't gnome-dock become cairo-dock
[01:46] <The_Rebel> ?
[01:46] <xmedex> when i use 3com switch, i cant run my thin client
[01:46] <_2> tsrk the ctrl+d is EOF   ends the input string.   also logs you out of a shell if there is nothing else reading stdin
[01:46] <Dartel> If your using Ubuntu there is no comparrasion as webmin is not compaitble from what I seen discussed earlier
[01:46] <fernandof> hello
[01:47] <_2> arghh2d2 no i meant ctrl+d
[01:47] <freazer> how do I search my commandline/bash history for old commands? I thought I could push a key combo, type part of the command, and have it find it?
[01:47] <fernandof> I may need help on a problem with Printer HP Deskjet 895Cxi
[01:47] <xmedex> i have a problem with thin client
[01:47] <xenocide21> apt-get sucks -_-
[01:47] <zcat[1]> freazer: ctrl-R
[01:47] <fernandof> I have other 2 printers working
[01:47] <[T]ank> ok, so... i used devede to burn my mp4 to dvd. It plays on my laptop just fine, but if i put it into a dvd player it says that it cannot play the disk. any tips anyone can offer?
[01:47] <arghh2d2> _2: what's ctrl-d do?
[01:47] <Zenitur> package not found
[01:47] <_2> arghh2d2 the ctrl+d is EOF   ends the input string.   also logs you out of a shell if there is nothing else reading stdin
[01:48] <xmedex> my thin client wont running if im using 3com switch.....why???
[01:48] <xenocide21> any one know why the PM doesnt have a conky package?
[01:48] <zcat[1]> ctrl-D is end-of-input, ctrl-c is 'break'
[01:48] <[T]ank> actually, i burned the disk using the iso that devede created, but burned it with brasero
[01:48] <fernandof> with HP 895cxi I got "Unable to start backend "hp" - No such file or directory."
[01:48] <g_wark> hi folks ... i've just installed 8.10, and I still cant get my wireless working...    the icon says wireless disabled. can someone please point me in the right direction ?
[01:48] <arghh2d2> _2: so  ctrl-d would be useful if you actually typed a list of commands at the > prompt?
[01:49] <_2> zcat[1] you could have went ahead and added that ctrl+z is backgorund
[01:49] <_2> arghh2d2 yep
[01:49] <kindofabuzz> anyone tried Get-You?
[01:49] <zcat[1]> arghh2d2: no, > will go away once the command is 'complete'
[01:49] <Dartel> Time for Dinner
[01:49] <zcat[1]> eg $echo "this is my first line"
[01:49] <Rafael> zcat[1]: i just install xchat
[01:49] <zcat[1]> sorry, try again...
[01:49] <zcat[1]> eg $echo "this is my first line
[01:49] <zcat[1]> > this is the second line"
[01:50] <zcat[1]> Will be one big echo with a <cr> in the middle
[01:50] <Rafael> zcat[1] were do i see my name to follow easy the irc
[01:50] <mib_2ii0w6> ziris
[01:50] <mib_2ii0w6> we got disocnnected
[01:50] <_2> zcat[1] but you are using quotes.   and echo recognizes them.   something like -- grep blah \n
[01:50] <freazer> is there a way to determine where a package has been unpacked too while it is being installed/reinstalled? I've tried dpkg --unpack mypackage  ---- but it doesn't like that, it wants a package _file_ in that case and not the package name
[01:50] <drash> [T]ank: an obvious one ... you did check DeVeDe's PAL or NTSC format setting ?
[01:50] <zcat[1]> Rafael: lines with your name in come up in red, I think.. not sure, I may have changed the default
[01:51] <_2> zcat[1] will need ^d
[01:51] <fernandof> with HP 895cxi I got "Unable to start backend "hp" - No such file or directory."
[01:51] <[T]ank> drash: what should it be set to?
[01:51] <[T]ank> never done this before
[01:51] <zcat[1]> _2: yes, true
[01:51]  * Dartel hopes some one wakes him when 1TB solid State drives are affordable
[01:51] <xmedex> hello...my thin client wont running...why???
[01:51] <[T]ank> drash: its set to pal... i am guessing it should be ntsc
[01:52] <mib_2ii0w6> ziris: hey
[01:52] <drash> [T]ank: depends on your geo-loaction, if you're in the US, set it to NTSC
[01:52] <Rafael> zcat[1]: thanks i see it. anybody is able to give me some help with webmin against ebox?
[01:52] <Droopsta915> What's a good movie player, the default movie player is a bit pixely.
[01:52] <hacker_kid> how can i format a partition with jfs or xfs, i see gparted cannot
[01:52] <zcat[1]> vlc is pretty good.
[01:52] <[T]ank> drash: starting over :-D
[01:52] <fearful> Droopsta915: VLC, sudo apt-get install vlc
[01:52] <vVvHACKERvVv> droopst: xine is good
[01:52] <_2> Droopsta915 vlc
[01:52] <zcat[1]> but if your video is pixely it's probably the file, not the player
[01:52] <vVvHACKERvVv> or mplayer
[01:52] <Dartel> Rafael: If your using Ubuntu there is no comparrasion as webmin is not compaitble from what I seen discussed earlier
[01:53] <fernandof>  system  8.10 - o Intrepid Ibex. with HP 895cxi I got "Unable to start backend "hp" - No such file or directory."
[01:53] <drash> [T]ank: :) experimenting with settings is a good thing ;)
[01:53] <fearful> yea zcat[1] has a point. My personal favorite is vlc all the way
[01:53] <julmumma> hi! if I use the usb-creator on the livecd to create a liveusb, will the changes made when running the livecd (installs etc) be written to the usb?
[01:53] <zcat[1]> mplayer has it's place but I mostly use vlc too
[01:53] <_2> anyone know if it's possable to mount an audio cd ?
[01:54] <g_wark> how do I find out what type my wireless card is please ?
[01:54] <vVvHACKERvVv> gtk-recordmydesktop blurry when uploaded to youtube any solutions?
[01:54] <Rafael> Dartel: this is what i read all over, but i have try webmin and it seems morte friendly, olso has the option of command line, that is why i was looking for people experience?
[01:54] <zcat[1]> hardly ever use totem .. bloody silly default, they should make vlc the default player ;)
[01:54] <fearful> _2: Why don't you just open it with rythmbox
[01:54] <_2> g_wark  lspci   maybe.   or  lshw -C network
[01:54] <fearful> zcat[1] I totally agree
[01:54] <MoTec> Rafael: I've been using webmin but am switching to ebox because of the potential problems i've heard with ubuntu and webmin.
[01:55] <_2> fearful doesn't answer my Q for one, and for another thing that requires a gui
[01:55] <g_wark> _2 thankyou
[01:55] <zcat[1]> Canonical have some hangup about patents which i think is the reson they steer clear of vlc
[01:55] <Droopsta915> thanks for the help everyone
[01:55] <fernandof> does anyone know why I I got "Unable to start backend "hp" - No such file or directory." with HP 895cxi
[01:55] <Dartel> Rafael: Wish you luck It seems to be an ongoing discussion here so keep watching
[01:55] <_2> g_wark personally i like the later of the two
[01:56] <Rafael> Motec: do you know if you can use the command line on ebox?
[01:56] <MoTec> Rafael: i've not installed it yet.. but even with webmin I always used ssh for a command line.
[01:57] <vVvHACKERvVv> some solutions for gtk-recordmydesktop for blurry upload to youtube
[01:57] <fearful> _2: Well, why can't you mount it? Is there an error or something?
[01:57] <_2> fearful do you know a way to mount them ?
[01:57] <vkumar> anyone using the latest gnome-globalmenu .deb package from their PPA?
[01:57] <ugliefrog> does anyone here uses xvidcap
[01:57] <vVvHACKERvVv> I used xvidcap
[01:58] <vVvHACKERvVv> and Instanbul
[01:58] <Rafael> Motec: my problem ios that my box is on a closet far from my laptop, so i access it thu webmin and use the comman line, how can i use ssh if am conected with a wireless laptop?
[01:58] <vVvHACKERvVv> Istanbul*
[01:58] <ugliefrog> did it record video for ya otr just individual pic files
[01:58] <vVvHACKERvVv> uglie: yes it recored video
[01:58] <vVvHACKERvVv> but it was shitty
[01:58] <ugliefrog> well dang
[01:58] <_2> does anyone know a way to mount an audio cd ?
[01:58] <vVvHACKERvVv> gtk-rcm is better
[01:58] <vkumar> _2: pop it in
[01:58] <ugliefrog> I cant get it to record video..it makes the file but nothing is in it
[01:58] <MoTec> rafale: ssh hostname from any *nix box
[01:58] <MoTec> Rafael: or use putty on windows
[01:59] <_2> vkumar and ?
[01:59] <vVvHACKERvVv> uglie: its junk
[01:59] <Tr3y-> Rafael: I came in kind of late to your issue but it sounds like ssh would work for what you want to do
[01:59] <vVvHACKERvVv> try what I use
[01:59] <vkumar> _2: hal should take care of it for you and mount it automagically
[01:59] <ugliefrog> whats junk xvidcap
[01:59] <vVvHACKERvVv> yes
[01:59] <MoTec> Rafael: I'm always using ssh first, as generally I am tunneling the http over ssh anyway
[01:59] <ugliefrog> what ya use
[01:59] <Jungle_Man> Is there any one known how to check is a port locked by IPtable?
[01:59] <_2> vkumar thanks for trying.
[01:59] <Droopsta915> PuTTY is good
[01:59] <vVvHACKERvVv> gtk-recordmydesktop
[01:59] <fernandof> anyone can help me with A printer?
[01:59] <ugliefrog> work in ubuntu
[01:59] <fearful> _2: If you pop it in nothing happens?
[01:59] <fernandof> Unable to start backend "hp" - No such file or directory.
[01:59] <vVvHACKERvVv> great quality except when uploaded to youtube
[02:00] <vVvHACKERvVv> I use 8.1
[02:00] <Tr3y-> Jungle_Man: give me one second I had to do this before
[02:00] <_2> Jungle_Man iptables -L
[02:00] <vVvHACKERvVv> so yes
[02:00] <vkumar> _2: if not, try mounting /dev/scd0 or whichever device it is on /media/disk
[02:00] <ari_stress> hi guys, i've just shared a folder using nautilus, where does it keep the config? i check in /etc/samba, there's none related
[02:00] <Rafael> my laptop is a windows laptop and witrh webmin or ebox i connect thru the ip address, can i do with any of the other options you are mentioning?
[02:00] <_2> fearful of course not.
[02:00] <ugliefrog> ill give it a whirl real quick
[02:00] <_2> vkumar it's audio cd
[02:00] <MoTec> Rafael: sure.  You can get a command line on your ubuntu machine from a windows machine by using puTTY
[02:00] <vVvHACKERvVv> uglie: it records to .ogv, use DeVeDe to encode to AVI or mencoder
[02:00] <fernandof>  HOW can I solve this issue? Unable to start backend "hp" - No such file or directory.
[02:00] <fearful> Is it burned _2?
[02:01] <_2> vkumar is it possable to mount them ?
[02:01] <vkumar> _2: right. so pop open a terminal and type "man mount"
[02:01] <_2> fearful no.
[02:01] <vkumar> _2: yes
[02:01] <_2> vkumar oh really ?
[02:01] <vkumar> _2: yep, though normally I don't need to go to cmdline for it
[02:01] <_2> vkumar this i have to learn, ....  or you do one,
[02:01] <fearful> _2: this might help http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=828965
[02:02] <Dartel> Motec can it be done through a simple terminal program?
[02:02] <MoTec> Dartel: putty is a simple terminal program
[02:02] <fearful> _2: after the fifth post I beleive
[02:02] <fearful> I'll brb
[02:02] <vkumar> _2: actually, I'm wrong
[02:02] <vkumar> http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/redhat-fedora-linux-help/54232-mount-audio-cd.html
[02:02] <vVvHACKERvVv> man, is this room a bunch of newbies?
[02:02] <vVvHACKERvVv> or it it jsut me
[02:02] <_2> vkumar :)
[02:03] <vVvHACKERvVv> just*
[02:03] <Dartel> Ok LOL let me restate to default terminal program on windows
[02:03] <Hok30> vVvHACKERvVv: It's a support channel....
[02:03] <MoTec> I'm using putty now, to connect to my ubuntu machine where I'm running irssi and another bash session under 'screen'... Very cool stuff.
[02:03] <vVvHACKERvVv> ok Hok
[02:03] <MoTec> If you're a geek.
[02:03] <fernandof>  HOW can I solve this issue? Unable to start backend "hp" - No such file or directory.
[02:03] <Hok30> vVvHACKERvVv: =D
[02:03] <vVvHACKERvVv> thought things were a bit simple here
[02:03] <vVvHACKERvVv> lol
[02:03] <Hok30> OK i'm having problems
[02:03] <Dartel> Define Geek?<ducks>
[02:04] <MoTec> If you think putty/ssh/screen is cool you just might be a geek :)
[02:04] <_2> fearful mount is never mentioned in that post
[02:04] <vVvHACKERvVv> I jsut finished my video tut for youtube on cracking WPA and WEP
[02:04] <vVvHACKERvVv> damn thing is blurry
[02:04] <vVvHACKERvVv> grr
[02:04] <rww>  !ot
[02:04] <Dartel> MoTec LOL
[02:04] <fearful> _2: Its an audio CD It should mount automatically to a player.
[02:04] <MoTec> vVvHACKERvVv: did you use aircrack or something different?
[02:04] <Hok30> I tried to install Ubuntu - it failed. So I tried to install WinXP, it failed also. Now when I start up, I get an error that says "NTLDR is missing" and it asks me to restart. I have the Ubuntu CD in, and windows tried to install, but it failed.
[02:05] <vVvHACKERvVv> Motec: yes aircrack-ng
[02:05] <vVvHACKERvVv> works great
[02:05] <MoTec> Yep, good stuff
[02:05] <ugliefrog> excellent works perfectly
[02:05] <_2> fearful you don't mount an audio cd to play it.   i would like to mount it if it is possable.
[02:05] <vVvHACKERvVv> uglie: you're welcome
[02:05] <s1amson> yea... that defiantly makes you a hacker
[02:05] <vVvHACKERvVv> you can thank me later
[02:05] <Hok30> Hello?
[02:05] <vkumar> Hok30: your best hope is to get a new ubuntu CD and install it
[02:05] <_2> fearful but i'm not aware of any way to mount an audio cd
[02:05] <ugliefrog> thank you
[02:05] <MoTec> Hok30: If you want to install windows again, use the ubuntu cd.. Get to the point where you can partition the drive, and then remove all partitions.
[02:05] <vVvHACKERvVv> slam: I didn't say it did
[02:05] <_2> fearful that's why i asked.
[02:05] <fernandof> help "Unable to start backend "hp" - No such file or directory."
[02:05] <fearful> _2: I'm not either, but I'm also not sure your intension while mounting it, I thought it was for listening to it
[02:06] <Hok30> MoTec: I tried, but whenever I try to boot I get an error.
[02:06] <MoTec> After you commit those changes and reboot XP will be able to install.
[02:06] <Hok30> MoTec: I can't get past the start of booting =(
[02:06] <Dartel> Booting from CD?
[02:06] <MoTec> You can't boot the ubuntu CD?
[02:06] <w4g3n3r> Hok30: Is your bios set to boot the cd before any other device?
[02:06] <_2> fearful maybe i want to break a copy right paten law thingy or something.
[02:06] <vVvHACKERvVv> slamson: you are more than welcome to put your wits against mine.
[02:07] <ugliefrog> what was the name of the file converter
[02:07] <_2> fearful it really doesn't matter why i want to mount it..
[02:07] <vVvHACKERvVv> ugliefrog: deVeDe or mencoder
[02:07] <Dartel> That was my question LOL make me feel useless
[02:07] <vVvHACKERvVv> if you are new to this use DeVeDe
[02:07] <Hok30> w4g3n3r: I have no idea. How do I change it?
[02:07] <ugliefrog> VVvHACKERvVv: thank you sir
[02:07] <vVvHACKERvVv> welcome
[02:07] <ricochet> I have a KDE menu/vdesktop question:  is there a way to configure an app/window to only appear on the taskbar IFF the desktop it is on is the active desktop?
[02:07] <noon> is itunes via wine even worth trying?
[02:08] <vVvHACKERvVv> noon: no
[02:08] <Hok30> w4g3n3r: ?
[02:08] <w4g3n3r> Hok30: Usually when you boot there will be a message similar to "Press DEL to enter setup". That will take you into your bios. From there you can set your device boot order.
[02:08] <Dartel> Hok30: When you boot the computer there is a msg hit <what ever key to enter Bios
[02:08] <Hok30> w4g3n3r: Is it under the setup Utility?
[02:08] <noon> :( i have ipod touch 2g
[02:08] <fearful> _2: I'm not sure how to then I'm sorry all the posts I read say that audio cd's aren't mountable but I don't thinkso
[02:08] <graelin> Anyone help me with a Virtualbox problem?
[02:08] <s1amson> no vVvHACKERvVv i just thought it was funny... your nickname and using other peoples programs to work your magic. in my day we would call that being a script kiddie. thats all.
[02:08] <luckyone> what is the best tool to monitor my user directory and automatically backup files to my NAS?
[02:09] <titaniumtux> mdr
[02:09] <titaniumtux> hello world
[02:09] <Hok30> w4g3n3r: Is the setup utility the same thing?
[02:09] <Hok30> O_o
[02:09] <Zombie_Gaz> Hey... using gnome-terminal in X and need to figure out a way to get it to show ansi correctly. Do I need to use a specific font or term (and if so how to I install / change that)?
[02:09] <Hok30> OK good
[02:09] <MoTec> luckyone: you could set a crontab to run rsync
[02:09] <Hok30> I found it
[02:09] <w4g3n3r> Hok30: Setup utility? Maybe.
[02:09] <Hok30> w4g3n3r: Yeah, it goes HD then CD
[02:09] <vVvHACKERvVv> slamson: you didn't give me a chance to explain that I had to reprogram the application to use my wireless device. also I had to reprogram it to grab proper transient keys while cracking WPA
[02:09] <xenocide21> Kubuntu doesnt run so well on my system, sucks up too much resources, will Xubuntu run better likely?
[02:09] <w4g3n3r> Hok30: Reverse that if you can.
[02:10] <Hok30> w4g3n3r: To CD then HD?
[02:10] <luckyone> MoTec: was hoping it would be a little more instant than that
[02:10] <MoTec> xenocide21: yes.  xubuntu uses less resources
[02:10] <s1amson> vVvHACKERvVv, and you didnt realise im joking about your nick.
[02:10] <fearful> xenocide21: Yes it surely will Xubuntu is made for less resources
[02:10] <xenocide21> awesome
[02:10] <arghh2d2> xenocide21: yes
[02:10] <w4g3n3r> Hok30 yup.
[02:10] <theshadow> I'm looking for a software based sound board. any suggestions?
[02:10] <vVvHACKERvVv> slamson: I am not the joking type
[02:10] <xenocide21> P2 333MHz and 192MB ram >.<
[02:10] <vVvHACKERvVv> Lol
[02:10] <s1amson> ... so?
[02:10] <titaniumtux> PII is old school
[02:10] <xenocide21> kubuntu sucks up so much just running the base system
[02:10] <_2> fearful yeah, that's the driving force behind my search really    "they said it can't be done"   so i set out to find a way.   just thought the last place that one might find it was the first place i would look.
[02:10] <xenocide21> its what i have right now
[02:10] <s1amson> i am. deal with it mmk.
[02:10] <MoTec> heh, i run an AMD Geode LX :)
[02:10] <vVvHACKERvVv> slamson: I just want to educate people on Linux/UNIX, I want more people to use it
[02:10] <Hok30> w4g3n3r: Dang. I get the same error.
[02:10] <vVvHACKERvVv> thats whY i am here
[02:10] <MoTec> Because I'm cool like that :)
[02:11] <Hok30> w4g3n3r: I'm booting off a windows CD though. Should I boot of a Ubuntu one?
[02:11] <luckyone> Atom running here :)
[02:11] <s1amson> so do i. it doesnt mean your nick isnt a bit funny :P
[02:11] <w4g3n3r> Hok30: The ubuntu setup cd is in the drive right?
[02:11] <s1amson> 'least to me.
[02:11] <Jungle_Man> Can I install U with 1Gb harddisk?
[02:11] <Zombie_Gaz> I'm using 'gnome-terminal' and need to display ansi characters... can anyone help me with that?
[02:11] <w4g3n3r> Hok30: Not sure you should get that error on either cd.
[02:11] <fernandof> can someone help me to fix a problem with a printer HP? I get this message under cups and no printing effect "Unable to start backend "hp" - No such file or directory."
 Should I disable the HD bootup?
[02:12] <Hok30> w4g3n3r: Or just make it second to CD?
[02:12] <Dartel> Well Hacker I am a new user of Linux and from what I seen so far a permanant one as well
[02:12] <s1amson> didnt think you were the joking type :]
[02:12] <MoTec> if you are seeing an ntldr error it's not booting off of the cd.
[02:12] <vVvHACKERvVv> Dartel: excellet
[02:12] <Hok30> w4g3n3r: Oh... I think I know why.
[02:12] <graelin> Can anyone help me with a mouse probplem in Virtualbox 2.1.2? Everything is working happily... except the mouse
[02:12] <w4g3n3r> Hok30: Yes, you should boot the CD first, then the HD.
[02:12] <vVvHACKERvVv> Dartel: I will answer any Q you have
[02:12] <fearful> zer0o: I can help with skype
[02:12] <_2> Jungle_Man yes. a linux installation is possable with as little as 100m hdd space  but not ubuntu,  ubuntu needs about 500m for a server install
[02:13] <Hok30> w4g3n3r: It says the CD-ROM device is not installed
[02:13] <Hok30> O_O
[02:13] <w4g3n3r> Hok30: That would make sense.
[02:13] <Hok30> w4g3n3r: Yeah. How do I fix that?
[02:13] <fearful> zer0o: What's your problem?
[02:14] <Dartel> I am done questioning for the night, This system is so old it wond hold or handle much more... I need to remove some packages soon
[02:14] <vVvHACKERvVv> Oh yea, for those if you with broadcom wireless cards, I am in the midst of writing drivers that will work with kisemt and the aircrack suite
[02:14] <w4g3n3r> Hok30: Not sure. Are all the cables connected inside the box?
[02:14] <prahal> freazer, sorry that s why I told <the channel we were in> not #ubuntu at first
[02:14] <_2> Dartel how old ?
[02:14] <Dartel> Using Dynex
[02:14] <fearful> Dartel: Try sudo apt-get autoremove it'll remove packages that are outdated
[02:14] <Hok30> w4g3n3r: Eh. I don't know. It worked yesterday, before I tried to install Windows. Then I got a STOP error in the middle of the insatllation.
[02:15] <stupidwhiteman> hi all, my computer keeps crashing, and it wont boot up 60% of the time, I can't open a browser, I can run xchat for a while before it crashes. On boot up, I see things like "Kernel Panic : attempting to kill the idle task" I have a boot CD, but it crashes during that too!
[02:15] <Hok30> w4g3n3r: Freakin windows.
[02:15] <freazer> prahal: Thanks anyway ^^ goodness that was hard not to be construed as pure hostility
[02:15] <freazer> So much for "At this point you will find yourself among the friendly crowd of #debian inhabitants." ...
[02:15] <Dartel> It is a sauger laptop 256 ram S3 Virge M+ Video and a whopping 6 gig HD and plain CD no burner
[02:15] <w4g3n3r> Hok30: Doesn't sound like windows "caused" your problem. Just discovered it for you. I'm pretty sure it's just a hardware issue..
[02:15] <vVvHACKERvVv> man people just GET RID of windows
[02:15] <Dartel> came origionally with Windows ME
[02:15] <vVvHACKERvVv> period
[02:16] <KevDog> b43 drivers already work with aircrack
[02:16] <Dartel> No 98
[02:16] <_2> freazer heh.
[02:16] <Hok30> w4g3n3r: Really? Even though it was working before I tried to install windows? You think the cable just came out or something?
[02:16] <vVvHACKERvVv> KevDog: not for internal Dell vostro 1510
[02:16] <vVvHACKERvVv> trust me on this
[02:16] <KevDog> what's the chipset?
[02:16] <vVvHACKERvVv> Intel
[02:16] <_2> freazer debian != ubuntu
[02:16] <w4g3n3r> Hok30: I don't think your cable just disconnected itself, no. I think your cd drive just crapped out.
[02:16] <Hok30> vVvHACKERvVv: I'm trying O_o
[02:16] <Dartel> Ty Freazer
[02:16] <Hok30> w4g3n3r: So what should I do...
[02:17] <vVvHACKERvVv> Hok30: good keep itup
[02:17] <prahal> freazer, mind you abrotman is one of the best hackers and help for more than 10 years on debian channels ... only ubuntu people are not that easy to deal with and with time it went from a gap to that attitude
[02:17] <vVvHACKERvVv> yea
[02:17] <maco> prahal: its possible that your nvidia drivers are corrupting things on resume. my friend's laptop did that on intrepid. works fine in jauty though.
[02:17] <w4g3n3r> Hok30: Hit it with a hammer? No, do you have a spare cdrom to hook up?
[02:17] <Hok30> w4g3n3r: Fraid not.
[02:17] <maco> prahal: almost warned you, but if you use sid, jaunty shouldn't be anything to worry about
[02:18] <prahal> freazer, so what was the things after dpkg -r -a ?
[02:18] <Hok30> w4g3n3r: Theres nothing I can do?
[02:18] <Dartel> Trying to decide if its worth upgrading the memory to 512 and a DVD drive or dump it soon as I can afford a better laptop
[02:18] <vVvHACKERvVv> freazer: i will help you here, I do not do provate chats
[02:18] <prahal> maco, ??
[02:18] <vVvHACKERvVv> private*
[02:18] <KevDog> Go buy an Atheros card then -- don't re-invent the wheel
[02:18] <prahal> I am using intel drivers
[02:18] <w4g3n3r> Hok30: You can install ubuntu off a usb drive/key? Have one of those?
[02:18] <vVvHACKERvVv> KevDog: the point is not to buy anything new
[02:18] <maco> prahal: you were asking before about hibernate corrupting initramfs or something? oh intel. ok i have no idea then.
[02:18] <Hok30> Hm
[02:18] <vVvHACKERvVv> but to use what we already have
[02:19] <Hok30> w4g3n3r: I used to.
[02:19] <_2> KevDog reccomending ath ?
[02:19] <Hok30> w4g3n3r: If I bought one do you think that;d work
[02:19] <furqon> fff
[02:19] <Hok30> w4g3n3r: If I just wrote the files to the USB stick?
[02:19] <furqon> apaa aku ra dong
[02:19] <Zombie_Gaz> Last time... I'm using 'gnome-terminal' and need to display ansi characters... can anyone help me with that?
[02:19] <w4g3n3r> Hok30: if you going to buy something, get a new drive.
[02:19] <prahal> and I do not have corruption on resume ... only suspend does not happens correctly (first stage that is suspending itself . Resuming is another story I ll look afterwards
[02:19] <vVvHACKERvVv> I refuse to pay for new hardware when I can write a driver for an existing on
[02:19] <KevDog> I'm not saying I told you so, however when you bought your equipment, you should have done some research --- like anything else -- get compatible hardware -- live Nvidia > ATI (not starting a flame war here!)
[02:19] <Hok30> w4g3n3r: lol, but that costs 4x as much as a usb stick.
[02:20] <prahal> maco, yes thanks . Only I left and get back so I wondered if you where talking about that :)
[02:20] <_2> KevDog maybe it's the ati chip on my ath card that makes it suck so hard.
[02:20] <Hok30> w4g3n3r: and I don't wanna screw it up when I hook it up
[02:20] <vVvHACKERvVv> KevDog: stop assuming, this laptop was purchased by my company I had no choice
[02:20] <_2> maybe ?
[02:20] <vVvHACKERvVv> now I will make it work
[02:20] <vVvHACKERvVv> simple as that
[02:20] <KevDog> If you can write a driver -- you are a much better man than me and I will give you a lot of credit :)
[02:20] <freazer> prahal, vVvHACKERvVv: Suppose I try apt-get install firefox --> 1 not fully installed or removed. --> Setting up initramfs-tools (0.85eubuntu39.3) ... --> Fatal: Not all RAID-1 disks are active; use '-H' to install to active disks only
[02:20] <maco> prahal: i used /lastlog in an attempt to find the earlier message about "channel we are in" that you referenced a few moments ago
[02:20] <Hok30> w4g3n3r: So that's the only thing I can do?
[02:20] <vVvHACKERvVv> KevDog: its what I do at my job
[02:20] <Hok30> w4g3n3r: If so, thanks for the help =)
[02:20] <KevDog> ati chip or atheros card?
[02:21] <freazer> prahal, vVvHACKERvVv: the joke is, I plugged the disk back in and did mdadm --assemble --scan , it's back and assembled and everything is fine! but it's still saying that not all RAID disks are active!!
[02:21] <_2> yep
[02:21] <w4g3n3r> Hok30: It's really not that hard to install a new cdrom drive. And you can buy one for $20 US.
[02:21] <KevDog> Cool -- well I'm sure a lot of people will be extremely happy
[02:21] <vVvHACKERvVv> KevDog: thats my hope
[02:21] <Hok30> w4g3n3r: I'll look into it
[02:21] <Hok30> w4g3n3r:  Thanks a bunch though :)
[02:21] <KevDog> which intel chipset are you going to address specifically?
[02:21] <w4g3n3r> Hok30: Sure, sorry we couldn't get it working.
[02:22] <vVvHACKERvVv> my job is to get as many people to use Linux/UNIX productively as possible
[02:22] <freazer> prahal, vVvHACKERvVv: I can run lilo -H and it installs just fine. But dpkg thinks it isn't!
[02:22] <KevDog> Hmm, I like aircrack however I'm not sure if it falls in the productivity camp (still thinking about this!)
[02:22] <vVvHACKERvVv> freazer: what exactly are you trying to do
[02:22] <kindofabuzz> I've tried Linux Mint, Fedora, Crunchbang, openSuse, Arch and a few more. i've settled back on ubuntu. ubuntu I love you! =)
[02:22] <Dartel> Who makes the Dynex wirless cards? Dynex or they slap thier name to a pre made item?
[02:22] <vVvHACKERvVv> KevDog: this will serve other purposes as well not simply aircrack
[02:22] <_2> freazer you use lilo by choice ?
[02:23] <stupidwhiteman> hi all, my computer keeps crashing, and it wont boot up 60% of the time, I can't open a browser, I can run xchat for a while before it crashes. On boot up, I see things like "Kernel Panic : attempting to kill the idle task" I have a boot CD, but it crashes during that too!
[02:23] <KevDog> Tried bt2
[02:23] <KevDog> tried bt2?
[02:23] <freazer> _2: What's wrong with LILO? It is the _DEFAULT_ boot manager when using the Ubuntu 8.04 alternate install CD when using software RAID. Drop the elitist attitude!!
[02:23] <freazer> _2: Besides, this is an update-initramfs and initramfstools problem, and has nothing to do with LILO!
[02:23] <_2> freazer only reason i asked, i used to have to use lilo because grub was too weak, but what grub couldn't do   grub2 can.
[02:23] <kindofabuzz> stupidwhiteman, your memory or hard drives could be failing
[02:24] <vVvHACKERvVv> freazer: I don't believe I have an elitist attitude
[02:24] <vVvHACKERvVv> ar eyou referring to me
[02:24] <vVvHACKERvVv> ?
[02:24] <stupidwhiteman> thanks kindofabuzz
[02:24] <ari_stress> hi guys, i've just shared a folder using nautilus, where does it keep the config? i check in /etc/samba, there's none related
[02:24] <_2> freazer and yes i have fought many initramfs battels too.
[02:24] <S4nD3r>  /msg NickServ identify sander98
[02:24] <kindofabuzz> hehe
[02:24] <freazer> vVvHACKERvVv: my "elitist" message was directed towards _2, not you -------- what exactly am I trying to do? I'm trying to be able to use my package manager again. I just try to do apt-get install firefox and it says "E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem."
[02:25] <prince_jammys> S4nD3r: oopsey
[02:25] <ezerhoden> S4nD3r: time to change your password
[02:25] <kindofabuzz> we know your password now
[02:25] <seam0nster> can somone just answer me this: Why does nothing ever work for me ?
[02:25] <_2> freazer and doing what the error message said do, yelds what ?
[02:25] <Kryzler> haha fail
[02:26] <vVvHACKERvVv> freazer: is another pkg manager running?
[02:26] <ezerhoden> seam0nster: user error
[02:26] <kindofabuzz> ari_stress, ~/.nautilus
[02:26] <RJG_> just a quick question. my volume control thing up top has gone missing. how do i get it back?
[02:26] <prince_jammys> seam0nster: you're unlucky
[02:26] <seam0nster> noooes
[02:26] <Kryzler> seam0nster: pebkac
[02:26] <seam0nster> wat
[02:26] <fearful> freazer: sudo dpkg --configure -a
[02:26] <KevDog> What happens when you run: sudo dpkg --configure -a
[02:26] <arghh2d2> seam0nster: biological error between the chair and the keyboard?
[02:26] <kindofabuzz> anyone know why NFS does not automount even thought it's in fstab and works when mount -a i sran?
[02:26] <fearful> KevDog: Fixes errors on the package manager
[02:26] <Kryzler> seam0nster: pebkac == problem exists between keyboard and chair
[02:27] <vVvHACKERvVv> kindo: is the a flag specified for auto moun
[02:27] <freazer> _2, fearful:  sudo dpkg --configure -a  -> yields:   Fatal: Not all RAID-1 disks are active; use '-H' to install to active disks only
[02:27] <freazer> dpkg: subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1
[02:27] <freazer> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (2)
[02:27] <vVvHACKERvVv> t
[02:27] <KevDog> Sorry, I meant that to freazer -- meaning I wanted him to do as it said!
[02:27] <seam0nster> i am just following instructions, exaclty as they are written, terminal always has a problem
[02:27] <fearful> freazer: sudo dpkg -reconfigure -a
[02:28] <freazer> fearful: dpkg does not recognize -reconfigure .. I've tried -- and no - as well
[02:28] <ezerhoden> kindofabuzz: i have never used nfs but i have heard many complaints about having thing mount properly, boot order, and things related
[02:28] <_2> freazer so you will have to either edit the script to call lilo with -H or bypass that function.
[02:28] <KevDog> why are you installing firefox anyways - doesn't this come by default
[02:28] <fernandof> thx all
[02:28] <fernandof> Goodnight
[02:28] <kdorf> Well, seam0nster, given that the instructions you're reading have probably worked for lots of other people, it's easy to conclude that pebkac.
[02:28] <dibblego> is there a non-pidgin IM client? it's full of typical amateur bugs
[02:28] <Commie_Cary> something deleted my init fail and caused a kernal panic and corrupted my /usr folder, good thing I backed it up 2 hours ago
[02:28] <prince_jammys> freazer: fearful dpkg-reconfigure (all one word) is the command
[02:29] <storrgie> I would like to use evolution on two machines, but I want to be able to have the same contacts/emails etc... can I use unison to sync the .evolution directory?
[02:29] <freazer> _2: can you tell me where to look for that script? I've looked in /etc/initramfstools and /var/lib/dpkg/info/initramfs ...
[02:29] <kindofabuzz> ezerhoden, yeah i mean it works fine like i said but i have to do a mount -a, it never automounts even though its in fstab, i may look into autofs
[02:29] <vVvHACKERvVv> any python programmers here?
[02:29] <seam0nster> okay kdorf you tell me what i could of possibly done wrong in the following, gimme 2 mins to type
[02:29] <kdorf> dibblego: kopete (is for KDE though)
[02:29] <prince_jammys> freazer: though i doubt you need to run that, anyway.
[02:29] <dibblego> kdorf, thanks
[02:29] <kindofabuzz> vVvHACKERvVv, i'm just learning python as we speak
[02:29] <ezerhoden> dibblego: there is, but i think it comes with pidgin
[02:29] <KevDog> dibblego: gajim?
[02:29]  * vVvHACKERvVv loves python
[02:29] <TuxSympathiser> Does anyone understand how ACPI works
[02:29] <jrib> vVvHACKERvVv: best to just ask your question, but if it's specific to python, you should ask #python
[02:30] <ezerhoden> dibblego: another bird name? i can't recall
[02:30] <kdorf> dibblego: if you're looking for something command line, there's centerIM too
[02:30] <_2> freazer the most simple way would be to move the update-lilo script out of /usr/sbin/   and link /bin/true to where it was,  then run the --configure again.   but don't forget to undo the workaround
[02:30] <vVvHACKERvVv> jrib: I do not have a python problem
[02:30] <vVvHACKERvVv> it was a conversation starter
[02:30] <fearful> freazer: sudo gedit /var/lib/dpkg/statoverride and delete the postfix line
[02:30] <kindofabuzz> well they don't like conversations here either unless it a linux question
[02:30] <jrib> vVvHACKERvVv: this channel is just for support.  #ubuntu-offtopic for other (more fun) conversations :)
[02:30] <KevDog> Ive never used python
[02:30]  * vVvHACKERvVv is too lazy to change channels
[02:31] <KevDog> Its too bad for me too!
[02:31] <S4nD3r> Hi there. I needed to re-install in my laptop. Now, grub disapears. What to do?
[02:31] <kindofabuzz> yeah because typing /join #channel is hard
[02:31] <Kryzler> vVvHACKERvVv: or #defocus for more general socialising
[02:31] <Kryzler> heh
[02:31] <Kryzler> in xchat you can get away with just /j #channel
[02:31] <S4nD3r> I used fdisk -l to see my partitions
[02:31] <vVvHACKERvVv> kindofabbuzz: Oh is that how you change channels, I was trying to point and click somewhere
[02:31] <S4nD3r> I got to use chroot too
[02:31] <Kryzler> face --> desk
[02:32] <refdef> Hey guys. I have an 8.10 live cd. How can i boot it with a custom resolution or in vga hanks
[02:32] <kindofabuzz> vVvHACKERvVv, and you're a hacker? lol
[02:32] <S4nD3r> but, find /boot/grub/stage1 do not works
[02:32] <Kryzler> lol kindofabuzz :P
[02:32] <phrostbite> Where can I get some information on dual booting windows xp and ubuntu? I have ubuntu already and want to install winxp.
[02:32] <TuxSympathiser> I've got a problem with my acpi
[02:32] <S4nD3r> Is possible to get help about it?
[02:32] <vVvHACKERvVv> kindofabuzz: I guess sarcasm is not a prefected methodology within text chat
[02:32] <prahal> fearful, what the ??? why delete the postfix line ?
[02:32] <_2> freazer example: WHERE="`which update-lilo`" ;mv $WHERE / ;ln -s /bin/true $WHERE ;dpkg --configure -a ;rm $WHERE ;mv /update-lilo $WHERE
[02:32] <MoTec> refdef: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions
[02:32] <prince_jammys> !dualboot > phrostbite
[02:33] <prince_jammys> !grub > phrostbite
[02:33] <vVvHACKERvVv> the hell with DUAL boot, just run windows inside Ubunutu with VMWARE
[02:33] <h00k> I am having some lag problems with Docky (nVidia 177.82, x86_64 kernel), has anyone had problems with Docky lagging?
[02:33] <fearful> prahal: I've done it before and has fixed my dpkg error.
[02:33] <seam0nster> I download a python script that claims to be able to finally install my driver FOR ME http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=757607 I read the readme file and it seems too good to be true! "To run the script you must have python installed ('sudo apt-get install python')." Okay i can do that! so i copy and paste that into terminal, oh great  alredy have python awesome! next ""python install_rt73_drivers.py" and the script should take over." SWEEET a
[02:33] <_2> freazer i don't promice that to work without error,   so use at your own risk,   it was intended as an example only.
[02:33] <phrostbite> prince_jammys,  thanks for the info
[02:33] <Dartel> Is there a decent Defrager for Ubuntu?
[02:33] <seam0nster> -_-
[02:33] <seam0nster> what could i have possibly done wrong i ask you!?
[02:34] <prince_jammys> phrostbite: no prob. /msg ubottu grub for info about fixing grub after installing windows
[02:34] <h00k> Dartel: defragging isn't necessary with ext2 or ext3
[02:34] <vVvHACKERvVv> seam0nster: rt73 is the driver source I use for my USB WiFi card
[02:34] <Lawrence_Lance> Need help? #freelinuxhelpline on irc.freenode.net.
[02:34] <prahal> \o/ fearful you made my day :D
[02:34] <seam0nster> OH JEESUS CHRIST HELP ME
[02:34] <freazer> _2: Well hold onto your hat _2!! I did it anyway! aww shucks. no go! reverting those symbolic links..
[02:34] <_2> Dartel not really,  ext4 will have one.
[02:34] <seam0nster> ive tried like 6 tutorials
[02:34] <kdorf> hmm
[02:34] <fearful> ?
[02:34] <kdorf> that thread you linked to says Notice: As of Ubuntu 8.04, Most (If not all) RT73 based devices are supported out-of-the-box.
[02:34] <Dartel> TY all
[02:34] <seam0nster> i get to about step 3 before terminal hates me again
[02:34] <vVvHACKERvVv> seamonster: yo uare referring to wireless correct?
[02:34] <seam0nster> yes
[02:34] <vVvHACKERvVv> my speciality
[02:34] <vVvHACKERvVv> hehe
[02:34] <_2> freazer example: WHERE="`which update-lilo`" ;mv $WHERE / ;ln -s /bin/true $WHERE ;dpkg --configure -a ;rm $WHERE ;mv /update-lilo $WHERE  <<<<< you did that ?
[02:35] <vVvHACKERvVv> USB?
[02:35] <seam0nster> OMG I LOVE YOU ALREDY
[02:35] <seam0nster> yes
[02:35] <vVvHACKERvVv> I assume you want to use monitor mode
[02:35] <vVvHACKERvVv> ?
[02:35] <fearful> prahal: How did I make your day?
[02:35] <alex87> i am trying out shell scripting, is there a way to echo to the same line, without starting a new one?
[02:35] <seam0nster> i just want it to work (but yes)
[02:35] <vVvHACKERvVv> hehe
[02:35] <vVvHACKERvVv> I got ya
[02:35] <vVvHACKERvVv> give me your sys specs
[02:35] <_2> freazer all as root right ?
[02:35] <kindofabuzz> alex87, don't put a /n?
[02:35] <vVvHACKERvVv> we'll go form there
[02:35] <vVvHACKERvVv> from*
[02:35] <FloodBot1> vVvHACKERvVv: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:36] <seam0nster> how do i do that, im a new windows escapee
[02:36] <seam0nster> ?
[02:36] <a1fa> is there a cpanel alternative for ubuntu?
[02:36] <vVvHACKERvVv> blah
[02:36] <vVvHACKERvVv> ok
[02:36] <S4nD3r> any help?
[02:36] <vVvHACKERvVv> what model USB card
[02:36] <prince_jammys> alex87: use printf or echo -n 'blahblah'
[02:36] <seam0nster> also apparently `uite stupid
[02:36] <austin_> Hey guys, I just installed ubuntu, and this driver upgrade is causign some serious screen resolution problems...help>?
[02:36] <kindofabuzz> a1fa, webmin can do alot
[02:36] <_2> "new windows escapee"     i like the phrase  :)))
[02:36] <freazer> _2: err, you didn't tell me to do that, I did mv /usr/sbin/update-lilo to /usr/sbin/oldupdate-lilo   and then ln -s /dev/true /usr/sbin/update-lilo .. should I copy paste what you just said and try that?
[02:36] <alex87> prince_jammys, thank you! i'll try it
[02:36] <alex87> kindofabuzz, i haven't been so far, but thanks
[02:36] <seam0nster> edimax ew-7318usg
[02:36] <a1fa> kindofabuzz: i need something thats setup for hosting
[02:36] <TuxSympathiser> does anyone know how acpi effects the ethernet adapter?
[02:37] <a1fa> webmin cant do hosting
[02:37] <vVvHACKERvVv> seam0nster: you ar enot stupid only new to the system
[02:37] <_2> freazer that was a repost   ^
[02:37] <kindofabuzz> a1fa, ISPconfig
[02:37] <seam0nster> thanks :)
[02:37] <vVvHACKERvVv> I enjoy helping new linux users discover the power of their systems
[02:37] <freazer> fearful: I found that file /var/lib/dpkg/statoverride but could you explain what the "postfix" line is?
[02:37] <prahal> fearful, it  means you had a corruption that happened at the postfix line ... chance that the same line is to get corrupted on another station is well not high . But erasing a line that work on a station where something else is broken is meant to make things worst . ( Though I am impressed  you managed to find the exact line at fault when your file was corrupted
[02:37] <kindofabuzz> !autofs > kindofabuzz
[02:37] <a1fa> kindofabuzz: thanks
[02:37] <seam0nster> good, because i find all this fasinating, the parts of it that work
[02:37] <oDesk> hello, i can't ping my Ubuntu laptop which is connected at the same LAN, i removed all firewalls on ubuntu like firehol and firestarter but still can't ping..!
[02:37] <Dartel> Big differance between stupidity and ignorance of the unknown :-)
[02:37] <vVvHACKERvVv> seamonster: is the card plugged in
[02:38] <seam0nster> yes
[02:38] <vVvHACKERvVv> run iwconfig
[02:38] <vVvHACKERvVv> at terrm
[02:38] <seam0nster> okay
[02:38] <_2> freazer i think you missed part of what i said.   maybe you were typing while text was scrolling,   i do that too.
[02:38] <MoTec> meh, with 100,000 lines of code.. what are the odds that any single line is all that important? (lol)
[02:38] <vVvHACKERvVv> seam0nster: tell me if you see an entry names wlan0
[02:38] <seam0nster> it says no wireless extentions 4 or 5 times
[02:38] <prahal> but telling somebody else to do the same thing because he had a corruption is to me like telling to someone with any illness , take aspirin it will cure you
[02:38]  * _2 now takes his elietest attitude elsewhere.
[02:38] <S4nD3r> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBoot Im following this tutorial. But, when I try to use setup, I got an error
[02:38] <fearful> prahal: Oh I'm sorry, I wouldn't mean any harm to anyone I just thought it was like something general that could have gotten messed up. :S
[02:38] <seam0nster> n wlan0
[02:39] <S4nD3r> Error 17: Cannot mount selected partition
[02:39] <seam0nster> no
[02:39] <Dartel> The lines are not but that one , where the . should be is a pain
[02:39] <vVvHACKERvVv> here is a neat tip, did you boot up with the card plugged in
[02:39] <austin_> can anyone help?
[02:39] <seam0nster> no
[02:39] <vVvHACKERvVv> good
[02:39] <vVvHACKERvVv> now
[02:39] <maurer> What package will give me asm/page.h
[02:39] <vVvHACKERvVv> are you using the dongle
[02:39] <vVvHACKERvVv> or is it plugged directly into the port
[02:39] <vVvHACKERvVv> dongle=bad with ubunut
[02:39] <seam0nster> it's plugged into the usb
[02:39] <vVvHACKERvVv> ok what window manager are you using
[02:39] <seam0nster> whats a dongle -_-
[02:39] <seam0nster> huh ?
[02:40] <austin_> no one at al wishes to assist me?
[02:40] <vVvHACKERvVv> dongle=basically extension cord
[02:40] <prince_jammys> !find asm/page.h > maurer
[02:40] <linduxed> !justask
[02:40] <freazer> _2: I just ran sudo -s and then: WHERE="`which update-lilo`" ;mv $WHERE / ;ln -s /bin/true $WHERE ;dpkg --configure -a ;rm $WHERE ;mv /update-lilo $WHERE
[02:40] <fearful> austin_ Shoot
[02:40] <Safe> Finally got my stupid connection working.
[02:40] <prince_jammys> !find asm/page.h
[02:40] <seam0nster> oh no, i dont use that
[02:40] <freazer> _2: I got mv: missing destination file operand after `/' and rm missing operand and mv missing destination
[02:40] <prince_jammys> maurer: ppu-sysroot, according to the bot
[02:40] <vVvHACKERvVv> good, it WILL NOT wirk on Ubuntu
[02:40] <vVvHACKERvVv> spent 3 days figuring that out
[02:40] <vVvHACKERvVv> haha
[02:40] <seam0nster> lol'd
[02:40] <qnn007> anybody got Trendnet TEW-631PCI working with Ubuntu?
[02:40] <xtian_> does anyone know why an awk command piped into another awk command stalls the output?
[02:41] <linduxed> austin_: dont ask to ask, just ask
[02:41] <xtian_> i.e. sudo tcpdump -nnvvi eth1 net <IP_ADDRESS> | awk '{print $17}' | awk '{print $1}'
[02:41] <vVvHACKERvVv> ok now what I want you to do is take out the USB card
[02:41] <maurer> prince_jammys: Thanks, I'll see if that works.
[02:41] <prahal> freazer, did you try dpkg-reconfigure -plow lilo  after adding back the "missing" disk ?
[02:41] <vVvHACKERvVv> place it into a DIFFERENT usb port
[02:41] <seam0nster> done
[02:41] <austin_> fearful: I installed a grpahics driver, and made my screen black on reeboot.  a white window comes up and tells me my screen resolution is messed up
[02:41] <prahal> freazer, your problem looks like http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=507366
[02:41] <seam0nster> okay..
[02:41] <vVvHACKERvVv> now give a monite then re run iwconfig
[02:41] <doug__> trying to get DVD playback working in Ubuntu and I can't seem to get it. everytime I try to open a DVD totem and mplayer both just hard lock
[02:41] <doug__> using http://www.linlap.com/wiki/configuring+media+and+dvd+playback+in+ubuntu+8.10 as my guide
[02:42] <TuxSympathiser> I need some help with my acpi
[02:42] <oDesk> so if firehol is uninstalled, why i can't ping my Ubuntu laptop ?
[02:42] <fearful> austin_: Sorry someone else might be of assistance don't know much of graphics drivers mine simply works... :S
[02:42] <freazer> prahal: I found that error and that's why I went to #debian!
[02:42] <h00k> I am having some lag problems with Docky (nVidia 177.82, x86_64 kernel), has anyone had problems with Docky lagging?
[02:42] <Droopsta915> how do i open a movie with vlc
[02:42] <seam0nster> alright, i should mention that my only usb 2.0 port is in use providing me with internet via wireless modem
[02:42] <_2> freazer ummm then you already have moved it out of your path.   if the dpkg command didn't error out you can now put it back where it was and you should be fixed.
[02:42] <h00k> Droopsta915: right click -> Open with VLC
[02:42] <maurer> prince_jammys: That doesn't seem to have dumped anything in /usr/include/
[02:42] <vVvHACKERvVv> usb 2.0 is irrelevant
[02:42] <austin_> fearful: :[ any idea where i can get better help, or different drivers
[02:42] <seam0nster> good
[02:42] <vVvHACKERvVv> check again
[02:42] <xtian_> ?
[02:42] <fearful> austin_: Here
[02:43] <seam0nster> checking
[02:43] <austin_> fearful: yes?
[02:43] <fearful> austin_: Just not with me, someone else will have to help you with it.
[02:43] <prince_jammys> maurer: in my system: linux-libc-dev: /usr/include/asm/page.h
[02:43] <prahal> freazer, yup  anyway the solution is unknown there too (no comments) mostly I bet because lilo is getting abandonned since two years ago (when grub2 dev started)
[02:43] <seam0nster> it's stil the same -_-
[02:43] <fearful> austin_: State your problem again, I'm sure someone here can help
[02:43] <freazer> prahal: I just tried your -plow lilo command and I'm still having the issue
[02:43] <vVvHACKERvVv> seam0nster: what we are going to do is get kismet and install it, this will assist the process
[02:43] <prince_jammys> maurer: dpkg -S asm/page.h
[02:43] <vVvHACKERvVv> sudo apt-get install kismet
[02:43] <seam0nster> i have it installed
[02:44] <seam0nster> well
[02:44] <seam0nster> i have it anyway
[02:44] <vVvHACKERvVv> good open the cofnig
[02:44] <h00k> I am having some lag problems with Docky (nVidia 177.82, x86_64 kernel), has anyone had problems with Docky lagging, and/or any ideas how to fix it?  Else, I'll just stick with AWN and use gnome-do
[02:44] <vVvHACKERvVv> config
[02:44] <seam0nster> i havent used it
[02:44] <maurer> prince_jammys: ppu-sysroot: /usr/lib/cell/sysroot/usr/include/asm/page.h
[02:44] <vVvHACKERvVv> I know you get an error
[02:44] <maurer> Seems to dump it elsewhere for that program.
[02:44] <maurer> Think it's safe to just copy it over?
[02:44] <vVvHACKERvVv> I 've been there
[02:44] <Safe> If I uninstall network-manager, it wont remove any settings (resolv.conf for example)?
[02:44] <seam0nster> how do i go about opening the config (sorry)
[02:44] <freazer> prahal: is there a way to uninstall lilo and switch to grub or grub2? my /boot is wrapped inside an md0 mdadm raid mirror partition, and inside that further is an LVM2 of several partitions. the whole reason i used LILO was to be able to boot - it's the default way the Ubuntu 8.04 alternate CD installed my system
[02:44] <vVvHACKERvVv> ok lets open a terminal seamonster
[02:44] <Droopsta915> hook: All I see is open with movie player. I don't see vlc. I do have it installed
[02:45] <seam0nster> okay
[02:45] <vVvHACKERvVv> I use pico, so type suco pico -w /etc/kismet/kismet.conf
[02:45] <prince_jammys> maurer: i don't know what you're doing, but that dpkg command will show packages that have installed that file
[02:45] <vVvHACKERvVv> sudo*
[02:45] <_2> freazer just install grub2    NOTE it is a little different,  you configure it in /etc/defaults/grub
[02:45] <prahal> freazer, I cannot tell you about that (did not use md nor lvm yet)
[02:46] <seam0nster> okay cool
[02:46] <seam0nster> aload of stuff is up
[02:46] <austin_> so yah, anyone know anything about graphic drivers?  If i don't get this situated soon, i'ma have to switch back to windows -_-
[02:46] <vVvHACKERvVv> now read me line number 33
[02:46] <seam0nster> looks nice to see that it looks asif somthings working
[02:46] <prahal> though I may be able to take _2 example a step further . Did his tweak changed the error message ?
[02:46] <vVvHACKERvVv> to ge tyour line number in pico type contorl+c
[02:47] <zurn> http://paste.ubuntu.com/115843/plain/
[02:47] <seam0nster> the only thing i see that seems relvent is  Read 337 lines
[02:47] <austin_> Anyone know anything about graphic driver support?
[02:47] <vVvHACKERvVv> you have to scroll sown
[02:47] <vVvHACKERvVv> user your arrow keys
[02:47] <zurn> im sure that there have been several questions about this - do we need to worry about the unix time thing? the article says that it is fixed in linux...
[02:47] <MoTec> unix time will work fine, even past the epoch.
[02:48] <MoTec><PHONE_NUMBER> is coming in a week or so... Nothing to be concerned about.
[02:48] <prahal> freazer, you should take a look at /var/lib/dpkg/info/lilo.postinst
[02:48] <freazer> _2, prahal, vVvHACKERvVv: please look at http://pastebin.com/m40a5e298 - this is a joke. I can't even install grub2 my system is completely crippled by this problem!!
[02:48] <MoTec> Unless the world ends, of course.. Then it might have been something worth worrying about.
[02:48] <kdorf> MoTec: How do you figure unix time will work fine when it overflows its data type?
[02:48] <prahal> and add the -H switch
[02:48] <vVvHACKERvVv> freazer: I will take a look
[02:48] <zurn> but when playing around with the number, and can get it to go to Tue May 17 23:33:19 2033
[02:48] <MoTec> kdorf: it's not going to overflow for some time, yet.
[02:48] <zurn> and thats 19999999
[02:49] <chu_> Hi - I have a problem with power management, I've asked the question a few times on the Ubuntu help forums, but no responses.
[02:49] <Javier17> hello, i use ubuntu 8.04 hardy...i'm having some troubles playing and burning dvds.. as well as hearing musci cds... the thing is that in ubuntu 8.10 and in XP i'm able to do that freely,, i've checked the forums, and the lead i've got is this one http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=852673 can somebody help me with this.. thanks
[02:49] <fearful> freazer: If nothing is working, why don't you completely backup your system and re-install that will surely fix the problem
[02:49] <kdorf> MoTec: Well of course not, but I don't know that was the nature of his question.
[02:49] <oDesk>  why i can't ping my Ubuntu from windows laptop ? all at the same LAN ? btw i can ping else pc's
[02:49] <MoTec> 2038 is when it will overflow
[02:49] <MoTec> I plan to be drunk, then.
[02:49] <danbhfive> Javier17: if its fixed in 8.10, whats the problem?
[02:49] <chu_> Basically, my laptop under 8.10 (though 8.04 worked) doesn't detected my battery, but it still runs when I pull the ac plug out.
[02:49] <vVvHACKERvVv> freazer: thats a big problem
[02:49] <freazer> fearful: how is this any better than Windows? just teasing/trolling you guys a little bit
[02:49] <fearful> freazer: http://www.zimbio.com/the+ubuntu+guy/articles/47/Backup+Ubuntu+Easy+Way+Command+Line   > Will show you how to back up completley and restore
[02:50] <Javier17> danbhfive i have problems with openoffice in 8.10
[02:50] <freazer> prahal: I'm looking into that file now, thanks
[02:50] <hev>  /server irc.islifecorp.com.br
[02:50] <Javier17> danbhfive i prefer to use 8.04
[02:50] <zurn> ok, thanks MoTec
[02:50] <danbhfive> Javier17: what problems do you have with OO?
[02:50] <seam0nster> vVvHACKERvVv i can't see it :(
[02:50] <Javier17> danbhfive 00
[02:50] <fearful> freazer: Linux, is not an easy system you have to be aware sometimes you will fail and will have to start from scratch, I think any real Linux users has had that experience
[02:50] <seam0nster> i looked carefully
[02:50] <vVvHACKERvVv> seam0nster: what cant you see
[02:50] <freazer> fearful: I'll look into it. my biggest concern is that my /home is on another partition, and when I reinstalled none of the users could login because they didn't have write permissions to themselves. I'll be reading that URL now
[02:50] <Javier17> danbhfive ¿
[02:50] <vVvHACKERvVv> ok listen
[02:50] <seam0nster> line 33
[02:50] <austin_> *sigh* so no one knows anything about drivers?
[02:51] <danbhfive> Javier17: OO = OpenOffice
[02:51] <Safe> austin_: If noone knows, try asking a little later. :)
[02:51] <ScottG489> I just made a new swap partition because my old one was too small to hibernate. Now when I hibernate it seems to shut down normally but when I start back up its just like a normal freash startup. What could the problem be?
[02:51] <vVvHACKERvVv> we are are looking for the section in that file that says...sources are defined here
[02:51] <fearful> freazer: If your home is in another partition, it'll be even easier just install and set the boot to the new partition as /home
[02:51] <austin_> ok
[02:51] <austin_> gracias
[02:51] <khoi> hi everybody
[02:51] <Javier17> danbhfive cannot open any document
[02:51] <seam0nster> ohhh
[02:51] <vVvHACKERvVv> it is only 7% of the document down
[02:51] <harushimo> I'm having probably playing dvds
[02:51] <Javier17> danbhfive it duddenly closes
[02:51] <seam0nster> i see what u mean now.. the 33rd line ?
[02:51] <austin_> whats the difference between ubuntu 64 bit and 32 bit
[02:51] <austin_> is it major?
[02:52] <harushimo> I just put in a new dvd rom not even 3 months ago
[02:52] <austin_> and are the drivers any different
[02:52] <vVvHACKERvVv> here is what my config says...source=rt73,wlan0,wifiHACKED
[02:52] <vVvHACKERvVv> you with me now
[02:52] <okibisan> anyone have an account on ubuntuforums?
[02:52] <vVvHACKERvVv> ??
[02:52] <G-Blunted> hey how do you do the cube mode in  COmpiz?
[02:52] <seam0nster> yeah!
[02:52] <Safe> austin_: A good thing would also to ask about the specific problem you have.
[02:52] <seam0nster> 1 sec
[02:52]  * vVvHACKERvVv has ubuntu forum acct
[02:52] <keres> is xubuntu more light weight than ubuntu? will it run better on a crappy pc?
[02:52] <vVvHACKERvVv> I take it that you did not edit this file before using kismet
[02:52] <tabidachi_> yes keres
[02:52] <okibisan> can you download cxmenu.tar from http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=828651 for me?
[02:52] <Kryzler> keres yes
[02:52] <prince_jammys> keres: allegedly yes
[02:52] <Javier17> keres, yes it will
[02:52] <austin_> My computer, when i install my driver for my graphics card, displays a black screen upon reboot
[02:52] <okibisan> it's attached to the first post
[02:52] <russia213> How do you partition a drive to ntfs qith gparted?
[02:53] <vVvHACKERvVv> okibisan: I will download that for you after you test out a binary program for me
[02:53] <vVvHACKERvVv> deal?
[02:53] <okibisan> i tried to sign up but it threw a php error at me
[02:53] <Dartel> I am running Ubuntu on a pretty crappy machine no issues so far
[02:53] <okibisan> what binary?
[02:53] <prince_jammys> russia213: probably select 'primary' for type, and 'ntfs' for file system
[02:53] <seam0nster> # Sources are defined as:
[02:53] <seam0nster> ???
[02:53] <Safe> austin_: I have no idea about your problem, but I've seen people in here with similiar problems.
[02:53] <vVvHACKERvVv> seam0nster yes
[02:53] <seam0nster> i havent used kismit at all
[02:53] <Safe> austin_: I guess you've googled it?
[02:53] <vVvHACKERvVv> I know seam0nster
[02:53] <linduxed> austin_: two things, did you install with the "Restricted Drivers" dialog or by manually downloading the drivers somewhere?
[02:53] <vVvHACKERvVv> I know your pain
[02:54] <seam0nster> alright.. should i pm it to you ?
[02:54] <austin_> Safe: great.  yah , i don't really know what to google
[02:54] <fearful> austin_ You can also try posting on the forums
[02:54] <seam0nster> :)
[02:54] <okibisan> what binary...
[02:54] <austin_> linduxed: I did the restricted drivers
[02:54] <vVvHACKERvVv> okibisan: its called system check
[02:54] <vVvHACKERvVv> ...
[02:54] <linduxed> austin_: what card?
[02:54] <freazer> prahal: on line 69 of /var/lib/dpkg/info/lilo.postinst  -- it calls /sbin/lilo ! I'm going to edit this file to call /sbin/lilo -H ! I think this might force dpkg to ignore my raid issue!
[02:54] <okibisan> can you please just get the file for me? lol
[02:54] <austin_> linduxed: ATI...lemmi find the rest of the specs
[02:55] <vVvHACKERvVv> okibiasn: I was kidding
[02:55] <Gnea> okibisan: could you please just fix your account?
[02:55] <vVvHACKERvVv> I would never ask you to run an unsolicited binary
[02:55] <okibisan> gnea: it's throwing a php error when signing up... what do you want me to do?
[02:55] <vVvHACKERvVv> or would I
[02:55] <vVvHACKERvVv> ..
[02:55] <austin_> linduxed: the driver is called : ATI/AMD proprietary FGLRX graphics driver
[02:55] <prince_jammys> austin_: 'lspci' in a terminal will show you
[02:55] <fearful> austin_ He needs to know what YOUR graphic card is tho
[02:55] <Gnea> okibisan: fix it!!  try pastebin'ing the actual error?
[02:55] <vVvHACKERvVv> seam0nster: we need to get that card working so we can add a source in kismet conf
[02:56] <Dartel> ask..never beg plead demand.....perhaps.
[02:56] <seam0nster> okay :)
[02:56] <Gnea> !ask
[02:56] <austin_> linduxed:
[02:56] <seam0nster> how do we do that ?
[02:56] <austin_> linduxed 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc RV770 [Radeon HD 4850]
[02:56] <vVvHACKERvVv> sea: thats what we are doing
[02:56] <prince_jammys> !ati | austin_
[02:56] <vVvHACKERvVv> its a process NEVEr a quick fix on Linux
[02:56] <freazer> quick easy question: I can ln -s /place mylink   and then rm mylink and it will just remove the link, not the actual file, right?
[02:56] <seam0nster> great... -_-
[02:56] <vVvHACKERvVv> but once working, will work forever
 are you gonna get the file for me?
[02:56] <prahal> freazer, yes that seems the best option . to have a working install before transitioning to grub2 (which in the long term seems a good switch)
[02:56] <prince_jammys> freazer: yep
[02:57] <seam0nster> well, thats good to know
[02:57] <Artelus> Hey
[02:57] <Artelus> I have a question
[02:57] <vVvHACKERvVv> oki: you will ahve to wait for now I am helping seam0nster exploit wirless networks
[02:57] <vVvHACKERvVv> haha
[02:57] <austin_> eh, i'm not very linux savy, as this is only me second install (the first one uninstalled cuz of other problems on a differnet comptuer)
[02:57] <Artelus> I managed to begin installing ubuntu, and it resized my windows partition and started to install it on the partition it just created, ok?
[02:57] <seam0nster> lol wut, exploit ?
[02:58] <Artelus> But it got interrupted in the middle and I had to restart my computer
[02:58] <vVvHACKERvVv> I know exactly what you are trying to do
[02:58] <vVvHACKERvVv> don't lie
[02:58] <fearful> Artelus: In the middle of the installation?