[00:01] <rockyrock> how can I unzip multiple zip files in one directory to one other directory?
[00:03] <elisa87> Can I increase the size of my mounted disk image? because I cannot send anymore file into it! Can you please look at here? http://paste.ubuntu.com/5740456/
[00:03] <elisa87> also when
[00:04] <elisa87> also when I chroot to disk image which is mounted in /mnt and do  # df -h  I receive df: cannot read table of mounted file systems: No such file or directory
[00:05] <roadkill> elisa87: You can probably start by clearing trash and deleting log files.
[00:05] <elisa87> roadkill:  where are the log files located?
[00:05] <roadkill> home directory
[00:05] <roadkill> nuke .cache
[00:06] <roadkill> delete .cache and you'll likely recover a bit of space. install bleachbit and you can free up more.
[00:06] <myersg> hey I need help making a bootable Flash drive from the terminal
[00:08] <elisa87> roadkill: there's nothing esp in home mona / # cd home/
[00:08] <elisa87> mona home # ls
[00:08] <elisa87> mona home # ls -la
[00:08] <elisa87> total 2
[00:08] <elisa87> drwxr-xr-x  2 root root 1024 Jun 17  2008 .
[00:08] <elisa87> drwxr-xr-x 22 root root 1024 May 28 22:02 ..
[00:08] <elisa87> -rw-r--r--  1 root root    0 Jun 17  2008 .keep
[00:08] <FloodBot1> elisa87: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:08] <Casey> If I have an FTP server, is FTPS connections already included?
[00:09] <roadkill> elisa87: I have no idea what you managed to do to run out of space without anything in home to delete
[00:09] <elisa87> roadkill: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5740467/ can you look at here
[00:09] <elisa87> roadkill: sudo mount -o loop,offset=32256 linux-x86.img /mnt/  I have mounted the linux-x86.img using this command!
[00:10] <roadkill> ... you mounted an iso and you're wondering why you have no space on that filesystem?
[00:11] <dk0r> i just loaded ubuntu live 13.04 on a tablet pc but the on screen keyboard (osk) does not seem to work. I enabled the osk via settings > accessibility > typing > and turning on the osk. How do I get the osk to appear
[00:11] <utfans05> usr13_: did you sent me a pm or tell someone to send me a pm?
[00:11] <roaet> Hallo!
[00:11] <myersg> can someone help me with putting an OS on to a bootable flash drive?
[00:12] <ruh> Use Universal-USB-Installer
[00:12] <roadkill> myersg: unetbootin.
[00:12] <ruh> :P
[00:12] <roadkill> Or that.
[00:12] <roaet> I'm trying to figure out how to install the most recent (unstable) version of this package: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/tmux . Is there a google string that can lead me to the right direction?
[00:12] <ruh> How is everyone then? :D
[00:12] <TKing> I want to buy laptop now anyone with a recommendation for ubuntu? with full graphic support etc i use my laptop for gaming and programming
[00:12] <Ogham_> Confused this evening :)
[00:12] <qin> !source | ruh
[00:12] <ruh> I'd go for the Dell XPS 13, it's a nice system.
[00:13] <qin> ruh: sorry wrong tab
[00:13] <myersg> roadkill:  I already tried but it faild, said somthing about no boot, when I tried to boot it
[00:13] <marianne_> TKing: I've had really good luck with Sony Viao's and loading linux on them
[00:13] <roaet> qin: i'm guessing that was for me.
[00:13] <roaet> So it's a source file only?
[00:14] <qin> roaet: what version is in repos?
[00:14] <roaet> qin: I'm not sure how to answer that question. 1.7 I believe.
[00:14] <roaet> That is what I have right now.
[00:14] <TKing> marianne_ which model of spny? i need a laptop with high spec? no or minimal graphics as hp gives problems
[00:15] <TKing> no or minimal graphics problem
[00:15] <roadkill> myersg: You cannot mount an ISO as a filesystem that can be treated like a hard drive: The ISO is an image and is fixed. You need to install FROM the ISO before you can use the system.
[00:15] <TKing> ruh what is ur spec of laptop in terms of memory/hdd/processor/graphics??
[00:16] <marianne_> TKing: and will work. I've had a few of them and never had issues. They have some nice ones (don't know model numbers off hand) How much do you want to spend?
[00:16] <roadkill> TKing: Depends on how much GPU power you need.
[00:16] <roaet> qin: I get 1.7-3 if I do apt-get source
[00:16] <qin> roaet: ppa have 1.5 and source is 1.8
[00:16] <myersg> roadkill: I know that, but every time I try to do this, it some how fails
[00:16] <roadkill> You can buy a Google Chromebook for $199 and that comes with Intel HD 3000 graphics, which is sufficient for basic gaming.
[00:16] <myersg> when I did it on OpenSuse, it worked fine
[00:16] <TKing> roadkill, marianne_ i need high spec i am willing to spend $1500 or ?800
[00:17] <Ogham_> How do I install unionfs on 13.04? I can only see mhddfs or unionfs-fuse
[00:17] <roadkill> myersg: Burn the ISO to CD. Boot from CD. Or use UniveralUSB INstaller or UNetBootin to put the ISO onto a thumbdrive and boot from that. You're mounting what is a READ ONLY FIXED SIZED image.
[00:17] <marianne_> TKing: check their web site
[00:17] <qin> roaet: http://community.linuxmint.com/tutorial/view/162 this may help, but if not needed use official version
[00:18] <elisa87> what's the solution? ls: cannot access /usr/bin/apt*: No such file or directory
[00:18] <roadkill> TKing: https://www.system76.com/laptops/
[00:18] <roaet> I'm trying to figure out how to get apt-get source to use the official 1.8 version atm
[00:18] <Casey> When you install the FTP server for ubuntu 12.04 is FTPS connections automaticly allowed?
[00:18] <TKing> roadkill i am wondering can i install windows 8 in system76 as in dual booting?
[00:19] <qin> roaet: there is no 1.8 for ubuntu apparently, maybe debian source, but doubt it, use source from tmux site
[00:19] <roaet> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/tmux doesn't have the source?
[00:19] <roaet> saucy salamander I guess?
[00:20] <roadkill> TKing: Intel based laptops are very well supported in both Ubuntu and Windows.
[00:21] <pZombie> test
[00:21] <Casey> When you install the FTP server for ubuntu 12.04 is FTPS connections automaticly allowed?
[00:22] <pZombie> How do you copy symbolic links instead of the actual file into another folder using ubuntu?
[00:22] <qin> roaet: oh, neat ppa. most likely dependencies will suck
[00:22] <pZombie> i tried cp -l after reading the help, but i think that does not work
[00:22] <pZombie> ls
[00:22] <Ogham_> Does unionfs/aufs only write differences (e.g. a few bits for chmod) to the rw/memfs fs of br:/tmp/memfs:/mnt/sdb1=ro none /tmp/combined? Or does it copy whole files from the ro fs to the rw fs?
[00:24] <Ogham_> e.g. mount -t tmpfs -o size=10M none /tmp/memfs; mount -t aufs -o br:/tmp/memfs:/mnt/sdb1=ro none /tmp/combined
[00:27] <roaet> qin: Yeah I'm trying it out right now. I had to dist-upgrade saucy, which may be terrible.
[00:28] <qin> roaet: haha, looks like you need to /j #ubuntu+1
[00:29] <roaet> qin: wait.. that's a thing?
[00:30] <roaet> it appears to be a thing. lol
[00:30] <qin> roaet: do you really want to upgrade to alfa? what a difference between 1.7 and 1.8?
[00:30] <roaet> qin: quite a bit actually. well. yeah. I'm in a VM anywho, so if it messes up... ehhhh
[00:32] <roaet> It's building!!!!
[00:32] <roaet> :o
[00:33] <roaet> it's... beautiful!
[00:34] <marianne_> roaet: congrats!
[00:35] <roaet> There are lots of changes, but resize-pane learnt '-Z' for zooming a pane temporarily. is totally worth it
[00:35] <roaet> I can finally zoom a tmux pane without janky scripts
[00:36] <qin> hmm? can you have "sticky" panes between windows and sessions, for irssi i.e.?
[00:36] <roaet> qin: Oh I should look that up.
[00:36] <roaet> Let's find out.
[00:38] <inhale_py> hi all, how do I access my windows partion from a live cd?
[00:38] <roaet> qin: no :( but that would be an awesome feature. I need some sticky panes.
[00:38] <roaet> qin: I currently do it by sticking tmux in screen
[00:40] <qin> roaet: pity, I used to use embedded sessions, it just to many shortcuts
[00:41] <roaet> It is kind of a pain :( but as long as the escapes are different then it isn't so bad.
[00:42] <qin> inhale_py: is it listed in: sudo fdisk -L
[00:42] <qin> inhale_py: sudo fdisk -l
[00:42] <TKing> marianne_ which video driver does sony use? can't seem to find it on their web
[00:43] <marianne_> TKing: i think it's nvidia
[00:44] <marianne_> TKing: yeah it's NVidia
[00:44] <DS-Labs> hey guys
[00:45] <marianne_> TKing: Intel processors too... like I said it was a very easy load to get everything looking
[00:47]  * Ogham_ stirs a little yellow mold into his potion of sleeping
[00:50]  * Ogham_ hears the distant thundering Zardoz in the distance
[00:50]  * Ogham_ sleeps
[00:58] <Hilikus> no website detects that i have java installed. i have openjdk 7 with icedtea-7-plugin installed but it is still not detected
[00:58] <Hilikus> how do i enable it
[00:59] <Ari-Yang> what's one of the best music players on linux/ubuntu? (preferably "light")
[00:59] <qin> Hilikus: http://www.java.com/en/download/testjava.jsp
[01:00] <tones> Ari-Yang, Clementine
[01:00] <qin> Hilikus: Browser should ask to install required plugin, restart browser after install
[01:02] <qin> Ari-Yang: personaly - mocp, mpd besause of networking and plugins
[01:02] <qin> !best
[01:03] <Ari-Yang> k, I'll look into those too
[01:07] <guest_33200482> lol, the first time i got empathy work with irc plugin :D
[01:07] <Hilikus> qin: i did that, but it says checking for plugin and stays there forever
[01:08] <guest_33200482> unity i love you so much <3 but your webapps integration seems to be working weird O_o
[01:08] <pump> Hi. I was looking for some help to "recover" a partition.
[01:09] <pump> I'm not quite sure the partition has failed or there's a problem with permissions. But I can only see a lost+found directory.
[01:09] <pump> According to gparted, the data is there.
[01:11] <guest_33200482> nexus 7 and ubuntu touch: can i make calls with it?
[01:12] <ewaguespack> quit
[01:13] <somsip> !touch | guest_33200482
[01:13] <guest_33200482> somsip: thx
[01:14] <qin> Hilikus: dunno, try other browser or other java?
[01:16] <battlehands> how do I attach files to an email from a directory with a . in front?  example: ~/battle/.etomologs/"my files are here"
[01:17] <somsip> battlehands: CTRL h will usually show hidden files in a GUI selector
[01:19] <battlehands> somsip: perfect.  thank you.
[01:19] <somsip> battlehands: np - and it toggles to hide them again
[01:19] <battlehands> ^
[01:24] <edag0> Hi!
[01:24] <edag0> My name is Eddie
[01:24] <cherryreds> Hey
[01:25] <edag0> how are you?
[01:25] <k03ll> huh
[01:25] <bazhang> !ot | edag0
[01:26] <edag0> does somebody installed "correctly" the NVidia drivers in ubuntu 13.04 ?
[01:26] <SonikkuAmerica> edag0: Install them via jockey or via APT: [ sudo apt-get install nvidia-current ]
[01:27] <edag0> I tried it, but after rebooting the desktop appeared empty
[01:28] <layer3> [jkjkjkjk] hi all i need help with UNETBOOTING
[01:28] <cherryreds> Unetbootin?
[01:28] <layer3> [jkjkjkjk] yes
[01:28] <k03ll> layer3: how can we help you?
[01:28] <layer3> Huh
[01:30] <pump> Hi. I need some help with a "broken" partition.
[01:30] <Sinistry> So I'm a total noob and I'm trying to install Ubuntu onto an external hard drive, but instead of booting up I get a grub screen.... Even though I've set my bios to boot from the external drive I still have to choose Ubuntu intead of windows in oder to get to the grub screen where I cease to progress....anyone have any suggestions?
[01:31] <edag0> If you have 2 OS (doen't matter in what HD) always the grub will show up
[01:31] <cherryreds> Also why in an external hard drive just partition
[01:31] <Sinistry> so how do I get into Ubuntu via gru?
[01:31] <Sinistry> grub*
[01:32] <edag0> Just select Ubuntu in the grub
[01:32] <cherryreds> And hit enter
[01:32] <Sinistry> I want to load Ubuntu to external...get cozy with it then xfer all data to it so I can eliminate windows
[01:32] <layer3> [jkjkjkjk] i downloaed the desktop verision UNBUNTU 13.04 for my laptop UNETBOOTING dose not have that verision it just goes to 12.04 LIVE as the highest in that list do i just pretend it the UNBUNTU 12.04 LIVE 32-BIT and usr that as the UBUNTU 13.04 instead
[01:33] <Sinistry> ...I don't understand.... grub is all text input...there is no selection...
[01:33] <edag0> Try it with -Tab or with the arrow keys
[01:33] <cherryreds> Use arrow keys
[01:33] <qin> Sinistry: and enter
[01:34] <cherryreds> Then it should boot
[01:34] <Sinistry> can I access this room via a mobile device?
[01:34] <cherryreds> If not your gonna have to edit grub-config
[01:34] <cherryreds> What mobile device
[01:34] <Sinistry> iphone 5
[01:34] <Sinistry> non jb
[01:34] <Sinistry> :-(
[01:35] <cherryreds> Oh idk any irc clients you should Google it
[01:35] <cherryreds> For ios
[01:35] <edag0> try IRChon
[01:35] <edag0> Mangolite
[01:35] <Sinistry> thx.... I will... anyway, gotta log off now to give that a shot... thanks for the input. :-)
[01:35] <edag0> ChatFinder
[01:35] <cherryreds> Ok
[01:36] <edag0> Hi cherryreds
[01:36] <cherryreds> Hi
[01:36] <edag0> Do you have NVidia drivers installed?
[01:36] <cherryreds> Nope
[01:37] <cherryreds> I have aT61 Intel
[01:37] <walker__> hi
[01:38] <edag0> I've tried it, but always the UI deseappeared
[01:38] <layer3> [jkjkjkjk] OK what  should i do
[01:38] <edag0> Hi
[01:38] <layer3> [jkjkjkjk] HI ALL
[01:39] <edag0> #layer3 idk what you are trying to do
[01:39] <edag0> Hi walker
[01:39] <somsip> layer3: when you use netbootin, it either downloads the ISO for you (from the dropdown menu) or you install from the ISO you have already downloaded. But I'm not sure what you are trying to achieve here. Also, see !patience and please lose the [jkjkjk] prefix on everything you say
[01:39] <layer3> Huh
[01:41] <layer3> [jkjkjkjk] im useing the USB stick to install UBUNTU as my main OS
[01:41] <edag0> ohh I get it now
[01:41] <somsip> layer3: so use the
[01:41] <layer3> Huh
[01:41] <cherryreds> Theres two options in unetbootin you should go to the bottom of the window and click the circle foe you own iso then select where your iso is saved and burn it and you dont have to capitalize ububtu
[01:41] <somsip> layer3: so use the ISO you downloaded and stop saying 'huh' constantly. It adds nothing to your query
[01:42] <layer3> Huh
[01:42] <layer3> [jkjkjkjk] i knoe hoe yo do all of that
[01:43] <bshambaugh> JOIN #swig
[01:43] <lostlogix> hello?
[01:44] <bshambaugh> sorry lostlogix, that was inadvertent
[01:44] <bshambaugh> Can I help you?
[01:44] <lostlogix> thats ok . . .
[01:44] <lostlogix> im just looking for some advice
[01:44] <somsip> !ask | lostlogix
[01:45] <lasindi> I installed Adobe reader and want evince to be my default, but also want Adobe reader to show up under "Open With ..." in the context menu. When I try to set "Document Viewer" as the default, Adobe reader completely disappears from the list of applications, which is not what I want. Anyone know how to fix this?
[01:45] <lostlogix> im looking for the best method to get a Tandberg LTO-4 HH drive working in linux.
[01:45] <somsip> lostlogix: in linux, or with ubuntu?
[01:46] <lostlogix> ubuntu. sorry.
[01:46] <somsip> lostlogix: just checking :)
[01:46] <layer3> [jkjkjkjk] i know how to use the UNETBOOTINGbut i got a problem highest UBUNTU they have on the list is UNBUNTU 12.04 LIVE and not the UNBUNTU 13.04 do i pretend the UNBUNTU 12.04 LIVE as the UBUNTU 13.04
[01:46] <layer3> [jkjkjkjk] ans select the UBUNTU 12.04 LIVE and select that instead
[01:47] <steven> whats the easiest way to extract a deb file and see what its actually going to to, like where to move files, etc?
[01:47] <somsip> layer3: you've been given an answer twice. Just choose something like 'From ISO' and select the 13.04 iso file you downloaded
[01:47] <layer3> Huh
[01:47] <cherryreds> We've told you what to do layer3
[01:47] <cherryreds> And steven from cli or gui
[01:47] <steven> doesn't really matter
[01:47] <steven> either way is fine
[01:48] <somsip> lostlogix: have you seen this (I know nothing about this stuff) http://is.gd/kMQFjf
[01:48] <cherryreds> Unzip it and look for a .sh file
[01:48] <steven> oh, well didn't know that it could be that simple :D, brb
[01:49] <steven> ah damn...vm is still booting, anyway so cherryreds its just a zip archive with the binary data and a sh script?
[01:50] <lostlogix> somsip: yes i've seen that. ty. my drive functions "properly?" with tdtools, But when i tar - i get input/output error.
[01:50] <cherryreds> Usually
[01:50] <cherryreds> What package is it
[01:50] <cherryreds> There might be a readme
[01:51] <steven> phpmyadmin package, I need to manually install it because the depenencies in 12.04 lts is blocking my setup
[01:51] <steven> stupid, isn't it? :D
[01:51] <somsip> lostlogix: sorry - I have no idea at all. Maybe the Tandberg forums, or the backupcentral forums would have people who are expert in these matters
[01:51] <layer3> [jkjkjkjk] i know how to use the UNETBOOTING software  LAYER 3  i just that 13.04 desktop is not on the list do i select the 12.04 live and use that instead as the UNBUNTU desktop 13.04
[01:51] <cherryreds> Did you try to install it with the software center
[01:51] <somsip> layer3: do you want help?
[01:51] <layer3> Huh
[01:51] <cherryreds> Steven
[01:52] <pump> that huh is totally annoying
[01:52] <lostlogix> somsip: ok, i will look there. thank you for your time.
[01:52] <steven> cherryreds: its a headless (feel free to talk real to me, I use linux since years as desktop system as well) I also use puppet to automate it
[01:52] <somsip> lostlogix: much use as it was, your welcome :)
[01:52] <cherryreds> I'm new to irc is there a vote kick or ban
[01:53] <somsip> cherryreds: no. We ask politely, and if someone is breaking the rules you call for !ops (emergencies only)
[01:53] <cherryreds> Ok
[01:53] <steven> the thing is, U1204 lts needs php-mysql which I don't wanna use, I want to use the native driver which would be php-mysqlnd - to install that though I'd have to remove the php-mysql package which also removes phpmyadmin
[01:53] <madprops> being new already wanting to ban people
[01:53] <somsip> cherryreds: well, we ask politely here. Other channels have their own rules ;)
[01:53] <steven> long story short - its stupid in 1204 and fixed in 13.04 but since its a server I want to stick to lts
[01:53] <cherryreds> I wanted to kick not ban but i wanted to know just so id knoe
[01:54] <cherryreds> Know
[01:55] <steven> still provisioning it..
[01:58] <steven> cherryreds: cannot unzip it using unzip
[01:59] <steven> which tool would I use to extract the deb file?
[01:59] <cherryreds> Tar?
[01:59] <cherryreds> You tried tar?
[01:59] <steven> what what param? :D
[02:00] <somsip> steven: dpkg-deb -x *.deb /tmp/extract/
[02:00] <steven> somsip: thank you!
[02:00] <somsip> steven: I'm sure I didn't do that last time though. I used ar http://is.gd/6mwasp
[02:00] <alien64> http://www.faqforge.com/linux/how-to-download-and-extract-a-deb-package-on-ubuntu-or-debian-linux/
[02:00] <gksmithlcw> Greetings... I just threw 13.04 on a flash drive because my hard drive died but I have no audio and can't seem to find a way to look for / install audio drivers. The pc is an HP dv7t-7300 QE.
[02:01] <gksmithlcw> Any suggestions?
[02:02] <irpapabear> hello all
[02:02] <Ruh> Hello, sir
[02:02] <gksmithlcw> Greetings.
[02:02] <steven> somsip: thank you, either way worked
[02:02] <somsip> steven: np
[02:02] <Ruh> I have to say, irssi on Ubuntu is amazing.
[02:02] <steven> no Ruh
[02:03] <steven> just "irssi is amazing"
[02:03] <gksmithlcw> I haven't used IRSSI in ages. It's good stuff.
[02:03] <steven> gksmithlcw: it didn't change in ages :D
[02:03] <gksmithlcw> I figured as much. :-)
[02:03] <Ruh> They just updated it I believe. :D
[02:03] <Ruh> However, it hasn't changed in the slightest.
[02:03] <veryhappy> steven: yea but irssi doesn't have a possibility for links.
[02:04] <steven> veryhappy: I don't quite understand?
[02:04] <somsip> veryhappy: You mean, you can't click on them?
[02:04] <qin> veryhappy: explain?
[02:04] <veryhappy> hold on guys
[02:04] <Ruh> That's true. I usually usThat's true, I usually use xchat. However I try to use my terminal as much as possible, so I thought i'd give this a try.
[02:04] <veryhappy> i can't type that fast like a thunder
[02:04] <veryhappy> steven: when i used irssi and i really liked it, i missed a scroll function and link clicking
[02:05] <steven> well I use tmux as well and I can scroll and click like there was no tmr
[02:05] <Ruh> You can scroll, not click links however.
[02:05] <somsip> veryhappy: pgup and pgdown, clicking is enabled in your terminal (.Xdefaults in my case)
[02:05] <steven> Ruh: its either tmux or zsh, but I am able to click on links
[02:05] <SonikkuAmerica> I would use irssi if I had it in OpenIndiana, but they have XChat 2 as well
[02:05] <veryhappy> somsip: not on tty1-6
[02:05] <gksmithlcw> Yeah, I'm an XChat fan as well. But IRSSI is GREAT as far as terminal apps are concerned. I used to have it installed on a server which I'd ssh into from wherever so I could chat.
[02:05] <SonikkuAmerica> *or just XChat 2 even
[02:05] <Ruh> Ah..
[02:05] <gksmithlcw> LOL
[02:05] <steven> why would you want to click on a link in tty1-6?
[02:06] <somsip> veryhappy: yeeesssss
[02:06] <SonikkuAmerica> steven: Sometimes links have context in them
[02:06] <alien64> #ubuntu-offtopic ppl
[02:06] <veryhappy> steven: when you use for example irssi in a support chat like ubuntu or something then they might give you some links
[02:06] <qin> veryhappy: irssi scroll, and with /exec you can open links in elins perhaps
[02:06] <Ruh> *cough*pr0n*cough*
[02:06] <gksmithlcw> So, how does one go about finding drivers in 13.04? I've been away for awhile.
[02:06] <veryhappy> it's ok
[02:07] <veryhappy> at least i know how to scroll then, thanks
[02:07] <steven> but without X what are you gonna do? you have no mouse to click on it anyway
[02:07] <SonikkuAmerica> gksmithlcw: For proprietary stuff, use !jockey ; for open-source stuff, Google for compatibility.
[02:07] <steven> and even if you could click on it, what do you gonna use, lynx?
[02:07] <SonikkuAmerica> steven: elink2
[02:07] <SonikkuAmerica> *elinks2
[02:07] <steven> so SonikkuAmerica veryhappy it might sound stupid, I don't get it though
[02:08] <Ruh> Anyone still using Ubuntu 10.04? I shall never leave Gnome 2's side. XD
[02:08] <pump> What's the best way to recover files from a "broken" ext3 partition?
[02:08] <veryhappy> steven: if you're really on the ttys in the text mode then you can't click and you have to write each letter down on another pc for the links or something else
[02:08] <SonikkuAmerica> !best | pump, keep this in mind
[02:08] <somsip> veryhappy: maybe this is adaptable to elinks or w3m or whatever http://is.gd/iSXwfK
[02:08] <veryhappy> can someone please tell me what monitor configurations like 2x2 or 4x1 or 4x2 are good for?
[02:08] <gksmithlcw> I'm not finding anything. This system is VERY new. Not even Win8 has all it's drivers on disc.
[02:09] <SonikkuAmerica> Ruh: GNOME 2 is deprecated and vulnerable. Use MATE instead.
[02:09] <steven> SonikkuAmerica: hm I see, but like I said, I can click on stuff - maybe its just because I use zsh or tmux and one of those enables it somehow
[02:09] <somsip> pump: maybe this will help http://extundelete.sourceforge.net/
[02:09] <steven> works for me : D
[02:09] <SonikkuAmerica> Ruh: There's a GNOME 2 fallback mode in 12.04
[02:09] <pump> thanks somsip
[02:09] <veryhappy> somsip: when i'm supposed to execute that?
[02:09] <pump> is it possible that there is a permission problem though? i'm only seeing a lost+found directory when i mount the partition
[02:10] <somsip> veryhappy: its an irssi script
[02:10] <Ruh> Indeed. I believe it varies on the user, I have had no problems with 10.04 and I've been using it since release. Common sense and noscript are my tools.
[02:10] <veryhappy> somsip: i've never used irssi script i'll have to admit
[02:10] <somsip> pump: easy (unsafe) way to check is to 'sudo -i' and then check the directory. Then 'exit' to drop back out of that shell
[02:10] <SonikkuAmerica> gksmithlcw: Maybe you can try Googling "<insert machine model here> ubuntu"
[02:10] <Ruh> Thank you for the information though.
[02:11] <somsip> veryhappy: then you're missing out on THE POWER! Do some reading. You might find some useful stuff :)
[02:11] <SonikkuAmerica> Ruh: I say that because 10.04 desktop is !EOL
[02:11] <SonikkuAmerica> !EOl
[02:11] <veryhappy> somsip: really? i thought it's not that powerful
[02:11] <gksmithlcw> Thanks, SonikkuAmerica but that's exactly what I tried.
[02:11] <steven> veryhappy: you should do some research :D
[02:11] <somsip> veryhappy: and now we're OT
[02:11] <Ruh> Yes, it's a shame.
[02:11] <veryhappy> OT?
[02:12] <steven> off topic, damn it
[02:12] <qin> veryhappy: wonder if #irssi would treat you better after saying what you have said...
[02:12] <somsip> !ot | veryhappy
[02:12] <veryhappy> oh ok
[02:12] <SonikkuAmerica> !ot | Vert
[02:12] <SonikkuAmerica> Vert: Oops, my mistake
[02:12] <veryhappy> somsip: i know
[02:12] <Ruh> I am just website designer, programmer and "pentester" so uprading doesn't concern me.
[02:12] <veryhappy> somsip: i just wanted to ask for the meaning of the abbreviation ok?
[02:12] <SonikkuAmerica> gksmithlcw: Was your computer released on the market yesterday?
[02:12] <veryhappy> well ok, another question i have: can someone please tell me what monitor configurations like 2x2 or 4x1 or 4x2 are good for?
[02:12] <gksmithlcw> The only thing I find is http://www.linlap.com/hp_pavilion_dv7t-7300_quad_edition
[02:12] <steven> ok ubuntu related question again - is there an EASY and QUICK way to just repack something to modify the dependencies
[02:12] <alien64> some ppl dont have to abide by the rules
[02:12] <gksmithlcw> It was released earlier this year.
[02:13] <steven> I just wanna figure out if it would be faster to repack or just manually install some tool
[02:13] <SonikkuAmerica> gksmithlcw: What machine is it?
[02:13] <gksmithlcw> hp dv7t-7300 Quad Edition
[02:13] <somsip> steven: end goal is...?
[02:13] <SonikkuAmerica> Ruh: Suit yourself. I started on 10.04
[02:13] <SonikkuAmerica> GNOME 2 and all
[02:13] <pump> somsip, extundelete says: Searching for recoverable inodes in directory / 0 recoverable inodes found.
[02:14] <Ruh> What would you say your personal favourite is just out of curiosity?
[02:14] <SonikkuAmerica> Ruh: Now I'm on Xubuntu 13.04, which I might convert to Ubuntu Studio
[02:14] <somsip> pump: so it's not there. What led you to this point? What did you do?
[02:14] <Ruh> I have never actually tried Xubuntu, I may give it a go.
[02:14] <veryhappy> SonikkuAmerica: what's ubuntu studio good for?
[02:15] <SonikkuAmerica> !studio | veryhappy, here's the party line on Ubuntu Studio
[02:15] <pump> somsip, i executed  extundelete --dump-names
[02:15] <Ruh> I believe it's used for productivity. Such as video creation, etc?
[02:15] <somsip> pump: no...why do you need to undelete something? What did you do?
[02:15] <veryhappy> thanks
[02:15] <SonikkuAmerica> veryhappy: Not just for that, also for graphics and video
[02:15] <steven> somsip: ok, again - I have a server running 12.04 lts (its a server so lts has to stay - no upgrade) I want to use php-mysqlnd (native driver - faster, better) but using phpmyadmin from the repositories requires php-mysql instead which is the old and crappy driver - but since I can't have mysql and mysqlnd installed simoultaniously I have to either suck up the old driver (which is not gonna happen) or manually install phpmyadmin to get rid of that stupi
[02:15] <veryhappy> ok
[02:15] <SonikkuAmerica> veryhappy: Both GTK+ and Qt apps
[02:15] <pump> my system crashed earlier and i restarted to a grub rescue prompt
[02:15] <veryhappy> good
[02:15] <steven> its fixed in 13.04 but I am not upgrade a server to a non lts
[02:15] <pump> i couldn't recover the grub, even with the live cd
[02:16] <pump> so i reinstalled into the same partition and got it running
[02:16] <SonikkuAmerica> veryhappy: It's also officially a variant of Xubuntu after the release of 11.04
[02:16] <pump> but now when i wanted to mount my /home partition, i realized it was malfunctioning too
[02:16] <veryhappy> really? that's part of ubunt that wasn't splitted that way that it was worth to announce it?
[02:16] <somsip> steven: just phpadmin? Install from the website. I did that before I knew there was a package. It's only a webroot dir
[02:16] <steven> somsip: therefor I need to know, repack phpmyadmin with a fixed dependencies or just manually install  it (I use puppet to automate server setups, so it'd be a onetime puppet script copying the behaviour of the deb file)
[02:17] <pump> somsip, do i have any chance to recover my files?
[02:17] <somsip> steven: without having working knowledge of puppet, I'd say install manually. IMO
[02:17] <steven> u don't know puppet?
[02:17] <somsip> steven: I don't have working knowledge of it
[02:17] <veryhappy> why are people using monitor configurations like 2x2, 1x3, 1x4, 2x4?
[02:18] <steven> oh, should get some though, quite neat tool : ) and actually really simple
[02:18] <SonikkuAmerica> veryhappy: Well, Xubuntu is almost as old as Ubuntu itself; Ubuntu Studio started in 2007 with a GNOME 2 desktop and such, but with the advent of both Unity and GNOME 3 they switched to XFCE, but still retain a lot of GNOME apps, such as Nautilus, Brasero, Rhythmbox, Totem, etc.
[02:18] <somsip> veryhappy: take questions like this to #ubuntu-offtopic please. The channel is busy tongith with real support questions. thanks
[02:18] <veryhappy> thank you SonikkuAmerica
[02:18] <SonikkuAmerica> somsip: *tonight ?
[02:18] <veryhappy> somsip: REAL support questions WTF? i get it
[02:18] <SonikkuAmerica> !wtf
[02:19] <somsip> SonikkuAmerica: figure of speech. It's tonight for most people on here
[02:19] <veryhappy> i'm off here guys.
[02:19] <veryhappy> dang
[02:19] <SonikkuAmerica> somsip: You said "tongith."
[02:19] <SonikkuAmerica> sp
[02:19] <SonikkuAmerica> ZXD
[02:20] <somsip> pump: is the /home partition on the same disk as the root partition?
[02:20] <pump> yes
[02:21] <somsip> pump: and nothing shows on it at all? Are you sure you didn't format it when reinstalling?
[02:21] <pump> no, nothing shows.
[02:21] <pump> i'm sure, i re-checked like ten times
[02:21] <pump> and, according to gparted the data is there
[02:22] <somsip> pump: gparted shows you what, exactly? Pastebin a screenshot if need be
[02:22] <somsip> !pastebin | pump
[02:22] <tucemiux> anyone here knows how to configure a dual boot with win7 when both OSs have their own HD ?
[02:23] <pump> somsip, it shows the partition with space used
[02:23] <gksmithlcw> Gotta reboot and see how persistent this really is... Thanks for the help, anyway.
[02:23] <qin> pump: permissions?
[02:23] <pump> that's what i thought at first, but i can't read it even as root
[02:24] <elisa87> This http://paste.ubuntu.com/5740679/ is the copy of df -i but I cannot copy stuff to the disk image I have mounted in /mnt and I receive this error cp: writing `/mnt/opt/openmp/heartwall_data/heartwall/test.avi': No space left on device
[02:24] <somsip> pump: not sure how reliable gparted is in that respect. An empty partition of mine is showing with 7GB in use, and nothing when mounted and ls'd
[02:25] <pump> thunar also shows the same space used, but says that "some content it illegible"
[02:25] <qin> !testdisk | pump
[02:26] <Kram_> Hello anyone here can help me?
[02:26] <SonikkuAmerica> somsip: You should see what happens when I open GParted in OpenIndiana - it takes up half my hard drive and says everything is blank space.
[02:26] <somsip> !anyone | Kram_
[02:26] <qin> pump: old partition table you can recover with testdisk
[02:27] <pump> I ran it and it didn't show files either. Unless I have to choose some option.
[02:27] <somsip> pump: qin seems to know his hardware stuff better than me so I'm bowing out of the conversation
[02:27] <pump> ok, thanks a lot somsip
[02:28] <pump> qin, what should i look for in testdisk?
[02:28] <qin> somsip: sorry it drop in
[02:28] <Kram_> alright just making sure not everyone is afk. anyways I want to know more about this ubuntu. Just got a linux but Can't really play any decent games because of my OS
[02:28] <somsip> qin: no worries. Some subjects I know, but one's I'm not so hot on...I'm happy to back off :)
[02:28] <fernando_> hello guys, how to i change the password of guest in ubuntu???/?
[02:29] <somsip> fernando_: sudo passwd guest (in a terminal - not sure about GUI)
[02:29] <qin> pump: during instalation, have you left old home untouched?
[02:29] <pump> yes
[02:29] <alien64> gksu
[02:29] <fernando_> very thanks somsip
[02:29] <pump> i know i surely did because i checked and double- and triple-checked
[02:30] <pump> and right now i have home on the / partition
[02:30] <somsip> Kram_: this might be one place to get some info http://is.gd/NsudBS
[02:30] <somsip> and try following the links if you type !steam
[02:30] <qin> pump: you would need to dd /home to have image to recover files from and raw backup
[02:31] <pump> all right, i might need to set up a shared folder because i don't have enough free space here
[02:31] <pump> i can dd over a shared folder, right?
[02:32] <qin> pump: it means old /home partition. with testdisk it is more searching for most recent partition table before overwrite, you can dd it to image file where ever you want
[02:33] <qin> pump: how it happened? how it was overwritten?
[02:33] <pump> qin, it is searching for partition tables.. it returned some lines
[02:33] <pump> my system crashed, i rebooted and got to a grub rescue
[02:34] <pump> it displayed a screen with info when it crashed
[02:34] <pump> but i couldn't make much sense out of it
[02:35] <makara> hi. I'm trying to change my name. I changed it in Ubuntu settings, but when I open a terminal I'm still the old me. What2do?
[02:36] <somsip> makara: you logged out and back in?
[02:36] <makara> somsip: yes
[02:37] <makara> restart actually
[02:37] <javier_> help please! i was prompted that an update was available and now my system looks hosed. the upgrade deleted terminal, chrome, firefox, i lost the cog in the menu (actually I lost everything on the menu bar)
[02:37] <blz> how can I check if a service started with /etc/init.d is running?
[02:37] <qin> pump: in testdisk, what lines?
[02:37] <somsip> makara: explain again what you are trying to achieve and what result you have
[02:38] <lasers> blz: pgrep firefox -- Maybe?
[02:38] <jrib> blz: what do you mean by "started with /etc/init.d"?
[02:38] <blz> jrib:  i mean that I  literally typed `/etc/init.d/privoxy start`
[02:39] <makara> in 'User Accounts' I've change my name, but the linux user is still the same. I want to change it, along with the name of the home directory and any permissions etc.
[02:39] <jrib> blz: ok, in the future, use "service privoxy start" instead.  But you can just do as lasers said: ps -ef | grep privoxy
[02:39] <blz> jrib, okay noted.  Why is service preferred?
[02:39] <elisa87> how can I make some space available here? rootfs                496M  496M     0 100% /
[02:39] <lasers> makara: Name of home directory/permissions don't change. You may have to move/rename it/chown.
[02:40] <jrib> blz: for one, it will not care if the service is defined as a sysv-style service (in /etc/init.d) or with upstart scripts (in /etc/init)
[02:40] <somsip> makara: k - take a look here http://is.gd/712M8w
[02:40] <blz> jrib, okay.  Cool, thanks for your help!
[02:41] <somsip> makara: but not sure about the echo to lightdm.conf and how that will work on your system. Basically, do what you need to do to get root login, i think
[02:41] <makara> lasers, I don't want to create a new user and claim the old user directory because I've installed many programs and some were only installed for user
[02:43] <javier_> how do I get my menu back?
[02:44] <pump> qin, it's still scanning, but it shows this: http://imagebin.org/index.php?mode=image&id=260516
[02:45] <lasers> makara: Looks promising -- but I can't promise you that.  the location of your ho
[02:45] <lasers> (oops). Here. http://superuser.com/questions/40450/how-does-one-change-users-home-directory-in-ubuntu-9-04
[02:45] <qin> pump: What was amount of data you lost?
[02:45] <javier_> i am seeing that all of the libreoffice suite is gone, as well as compiz.
[02:45] <pump> 100 something gb is the partition
[02:45] <javier_> how can I roll back or something?
[02:46] <somsip> lasers: that's not what he needs. That's to move home to somewhere else, not to rename the home
[02:47] <javier_> control-alt-t also is not giving me a terminal...should I just install 13.04 clean again? I really dont want to and lost all of my data
[02:47] <qin> pump: I ment how much data you had in home, more-less?
[02:47] <pump> a little under the 100gb, maybe 80 or 90 something
[02:48] <lasers> somsip: Ah right. (Second 3-upvoted link in that link?)
[02:48] <pump> no, actually... gparted shows the truth, i had like 27gb free
[02:48] <somsip> lasers: sorry, but not really :-) The one I post aboe has it http://is.gd/712M8w
[02:49] <lasers> somsip: Connection timed out. (twice)
[02:49] <pump> qin, do you think it's bad?
[02:49] <aladdin> df
[02:49] <aladdin> just checking :)
[02:50] <makara> somsip, looks really simple. I'll give it a go
[02:50] <somsip> makara: k - good luck :)
[02:51] <qin> pump: yeah. du -sh; after testdisk, did you try to look at that partition as root?
[02:52] <pump> qin, yes... it just displayed the lost+found dir
[02:52] <pump> should i do testdisk /dev/sdb3 -sh?
[02:53] <qin> pump: why?
[02:53] <pump> oh, no.. i misunderstood
[02:54] <pump> du -sh, i execute it inside the partition?
[02:54] <qin> pump: du is another utility, but it is rather pointless, i think you formatted partition during installation
[02:55] <javier_> qin: can you help me?
[02:55] <pump> 1,2 M
[02:55] <qin> pump: leave that partition untill testdisk will comeup with something
[02:56] <pump> ok, but what part of testdisk should i use?
[02:56] <qin> javier_: doubt it, since I am on caffeine overdose
[02:57] <qin> pump: quick read, man testdis, or http://tntcube.in/recover-your-lost-partitions-with-testdisk/
[02:58] <_mote_> morning! anybody knows of an app that will let you have IQ exams?
[02:59] <qin> pump: this what you will try: http://www.cgsecurity.org/wiki/TestDisk_Step_By_Step#A_partition_is_still_missing:_Deeper_Search
[03:01] <pump> qin, thanks... i'm doing a deeper search right now
[03:01] <qin> javier_: did you try to: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get -f install
[03:01] <XMLnewbi> trying to install a SSL on my ubuntu server, follow this guid and now my site is 404 :/
[03:01] <XMLnewbi> http://jonwilliams.org/wordpress/2010/12/30/installing-a-godaddy-ssl-certificate-into-apache-ubuntu-linux/
[03:01] <javier_> not yet. will do now. thanks
[03:04] <melow01> NetworkManager issue, nm-applet doesn't list ssids and i spent 30 minutes trying to kill processes but nothing worked. Finally, I rebooted.
[03:04] <cpined> Greetings, I have a problem with the Resolution drop down under the Display settings.  I had to add the the resolution 1280X1024 using xrandr, although this will work from the command line, choosing this option in the Resolution dropdown does not work.
[03:04] <HiThere> Hi guys, I'm setting up a new Linux server and was just wondering is it okay for me to delete the default user accounts such as games, news, etc. ?
[03:04] <qin> melow01: network-manager is deamon, so service stop/start
[03:05] <melow01> qin, service network-manager restart, is that correct?
[03:05] <qin> melow01: sudo service networking restart; me thinkks
[03:06] <melow01> qin, ya I tried a bunch of different commands like that as root but nothing would force nm-applet to list ssids
[03:06] <melow01> qin, only reboot solved the issue. ubuntu 12.04 64-bit
[03:06] <qin> melow01: what chipset is it, do you need driver?
[03:07] <melow01> qin broadcom
[03:08] <melow01> qin, the driver is "brcmsmac"
[03:09] <qin> melow01: yeah, life is unfair, it should be warning label "comes with broadcom"
[03:10] <johnjohn101> broadcom wifi?
[03:10] <javier_> qin: not sure it worked. I still don't have a menu that looks correct. my log in and the cog is not there.
[03:10] <javier_> and the screen is fully visible
[03:11] <elisa87> if anyone has any knowledge about mounting could you please look at this? http://paste.ubuntu.com/5740746/
[03:11] <javier_> it also appears as if there are things missing in the system settings. Its like I was part upgraded
[03:12] <melow01> johnjohn101, BCM4313 802.11b/g/n Wireless LAN Controller
[03:12] <melow01> qin, haha
[03:12] <javier_> is there a way I can just reinstall 13.04 while running in 13.04?
[03:13] <cpined> Greetings, I have a problem with the Resolution drop down under the Display settings.  I had to add the the resolution 1280X1024 using xrandr, although this will work from the command line, choosing this option in the Resolution drop down does not work.
[03:13] <johnjohn101> melow01: i have the 4318 and have no issues
[03:13] <lasthopesinyouu> http://broadconnection.bandcamp.com/ <- shits awesome..not spam..good music
[03:13] <Prock81> my boot is full and it cant complete an upgrade cause of it, How do u clean up the /boot partition
[03:14] <Prock81> !boot
[03:15] <Prock81> how to clean up /boot ?
[03:15] <pump> qin, it has scanned 23% of the harddrive and it only lists a NTFS partition... is that possible?
[03:16] <Prock81> how do i remove kernels no longer in use?
[03:17] <somsip> Prock81: maybe this will help http://is.gd/imbYEu
[03:18] <qin> pump: let it finnish, was your /home ntfs?
[03:18] <pump> no, ext3
[03:19] <pump> if an ext3 appears, it could be recoverable?
[03:21] <qin> pump: propably, if not testdisk, then photorec or scalpel, but recovering old partition table is preferable from getting out files from image
[03:22] <pump> all right, thanks a lot qin!
[03:22] <pump> it's listed 2 linux partitions
[03:23] <qin> pump: before you will write anything check for files
[03:24] <qin> pump: look for something very recent
[03:24] <pump> ok, now it displayed more Linux lines
[03:24] <pump> should i leave it to finish scanning?
[03:25] <pump> there are 9 Linux lines
[03:25] <pump> each of them is a partition table?
[03:26] <Prock81> thanks somsip
[03:26] <somsip> Prock81: have you got some diskspace back now?
[03:26] <Prock81> yes 400 some MB
[03:27] <somsip> Prock81: hehe - result!
[03:31] <qin> pump: screenshot?
[03:31] <javier_> qin: as it seems, the update that I was pushed removed gnome shell common. now I have my applications back, well at least some of them. I still don't have my log in or the cog in the menu. any ideas?
[03:32] <javier_> all that is there is the networking icon
[03:32] <qin> javier_: did you use gdm or lightdm? installing one of them may help
[03:33] <javier_> lightdm
[03:33] <cosmo> So, i'm trying to install virtual box on ubuntu 12.04, it asks for the boot cd in /cdrom drive, so I burn the correct version of ubuntu and pop it in, doesn't read. the CD's location is /media, is that the problem?
[03:33] <javier_> in the settings I am still missing items though
[03:34] <qin> javier_: did you get any errors from update
[03:35] <javier_> no. that is the weird thing
[03:35] <pump> qin, here it is: http://imagebin.org/index.php?mode=image&id=260518
[03:35] <javier_> I have no idea what happened
[03:36] <qin> pump: half done ;)
[03:36] <pump> qin, great! do you think i have chances of recovering something?
[03:36] <javier_> getting the menu corrected is the last thing i need though.
[03:37] <dooglus> I'm having trouble with ubuntu 13.04.  Installed it yesterday, and it has crashed twice since.  I figured it was the 'radeon' video driver it was using, so switched to the proprietary fglrx one.  Now I can't do anything.  X locks up at the login screen, and even the recovery boot option doesn'twork
[03:37] <dooglus> help please?
[03:38] <cosmo> why not try using an earlier version of ubuntu dooglus..?
[03:38] <dooglus> cosmo: I just spent 24 hours setting this one up, and have a bunch of work on it I need to save
[03:38] <dooglus> cosmo: if it doesn't work, I guess I'll return the computer and get a different model
[03:39] <dooglus> cosmo: I thought ATI graphics was well supported.  guess I was wrong?
[03:40] <cosmo> i'm not sure, not an expert. but the latest versions tend to lack support.
[03:40] <johnjohn101> dooglus there is a beta version of the proprietary driver that addresses some 13.04 stuff
[03:40] <dooglus> before switching from 'radeon' to 'fglrx' I was seeing glitches in chromium, like this: http://i.imgur.com/Xhda2cP.png
[03:41] <dooglus> johnjohn101: the software sources dialog that I used to switch from open source to proprietary had 3 options: free, proprietary and proprietary-proposed (or similar) I chose the last one.  didn't try the middle one
[03:41] <johnjohn101> http://support.amd.com/us/kbarticles/Pages/AMDCatalyst13-6LINBetaDriver.aspx
[03:41] <dooglus> ty
[03:42] <johnjohn101> i have no idea which one is which.  still to my old intel systm. works flawless but slow
[03:42] <dooglus> nearly went with intel again, but this was cheaper
[03:43] <cpined> Greetings, I have a problem with the Resolution drop down under the Display settings.  I had to add the the resolution 1280X1024 using xrandr, although this will work from the command line, choosing this option in the Resolution drop down does not work.
[03:43] <cpined> the resolution does not change.
[03:43] <makara> somsip, that went fairly well. I posted my comments: http://www.ubuntututorials.com/change-username-ubuntu-12-04
[03:44] <johnjohn101> dooglus: what cpu are you running?
[03:44] <dooglus> johnjohn101: model nameless` : Intel(R) Core(TM) i3-2350M CPU @ 2.30GHz
[03:44] <dooglus> ha
[03:45] <dooglus> irssi completes the 'name' to 'nameless`'
[03:45] <somsip> makara: Some of those are expected give that $USER might be hardcoded in the config files. Did you get the end result you wanted though?
[03:45] <makara> somsip, yeah
[03:45] <somsip> makara: cool
[03:46] <makara> a had an inauspicious mythology
[03:46] <somsip> makara: <boggle>?
[03:46] <makara> my pc was solar and user reptilian
[03:46] <qin> pump: possibly. whole range of options: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DataRecovery
[03:47] <makara> should be the other way around
[03:47] <pump> qin, what should i do with testdisk when it finishes scanning?
[03:47] <dooglus> when I select (recover mode) from the grub menu, I get to a screen titled "Recovery Menu (filesytstem state: read-only)", if I press the down-arrow to go from 'normal boot' to other options, it freezes
[03:50] <qin> pump: look at files in partitons and if you see your old file write partition table
[03:50] <dooglus> johnjohn101: I gained access to the AMD machine now.  it's running A6-4400M APU
[03:51] <pump> that would "restore" the whole partition?
[03:52] <qin> pump: should. just be carefull and make sure you have correct partition
[03:52] <pump> qin, ok... it's on 72%
[03:53] <melow01> johnjohn101, sorry just saw your message about the 4318 wifi. thanks.
[03:54] <melow01> johnjohn101, unfortunately my 4313 acts strange sometimes... it will show an empty wifi icon in nm-applet and when i click on the icon
[03:54] <melow01> there is no list of ssids
[03:54] <FoShizz> can i get some help with ubuntu? I'm new to it and I'm having some issues.
[03:55] <johnjohn101> melow01: i had to leave the sta driver and go back to the b43.  I was getting core dumps on the former
[03:57] <dooglus> FoShizz: what help you need?
[03:58] <FoShizz> well i recently installed it and im unsure how to install video card drivers
[03:58] <FoShizz> i had to boot in nomodeset
[03:59] <ltdan> hello
[03:59] <dooglus> FoShizz: funny.  I'm in a text terminal now 'cos I can't get the graphics working either
[04:00] <savio> ltdan: hi
[04:00] <FoShizz> mine is rediculous
[04:00] <dooglus> FoShizz: I think the graphics drivers usually get installed automatically
[04:00] <dooglus> !fglrx
[04:00] <ltdan> what graphics you usings
[04:00] <FoShizz> every time i try to move the terminal it keeps sending errors
[04:00] <FoShizz> i have an nvidia geforce4
[04:01] <FoShizz> its a really old card
[04:01] <FoShizz> im trying to install ubuntu on it to use as a media server
[04:01] <ltdan> anyone know anything about bios upgrades on ubuntu
[04:02] <ltdan> im on a dell laptop
[04:02] <utfans05> ltdan: bios updates are typically done through the bios, not through the OS
[04:02] <FoShizz> why do you need to update your BIOS?
[04:02] <utfans05> ltdan: most of the times you download the updated version of the bios and inside your bios you can choose to update it.
[04:03] <asharas> Hi all
[04:03] <FoShizz> updating the BIOS does not reap any perfomance enhancements
[04:03] <ltdan> ok need to upgrade bios on a dell vostro laptop apparently for a better battery aligrathim
[04:03] <FoShizz> oh i see
[04:04] <asharas> got a question: I'd like to turn off/on my usb ports, I saw several methods and one of it advice to do this echo suspend > /sys/bus/usb/devices/usb1/power/level
[04:04] <SattvaIz> hey ya'll. am running Ubuntu 13.04 , and ever since switching from windows to this OS, my wi-fi doesn
[04:04] <ltdan> its so i can unplug without dying haha
[04:04] <FoShizz> http://www.pcworld.com/article/187437/how_to_update_your_bios.html
[04:04] <savio> ltdan: what version of bios are you using
[04:04] <FoShizz> Thats for you ltdan
[04:05] <asharas> my question is, why in /sys/bus/usb/devices I have my 5 usb ports but also 5 symlinks
[04:05] <SattvaIz> running Ubuntu 13.04 and when its idle with Wi-Fi enabled it drains my wi fi so that my other devices can not get a connection, the other devices can connect to my rounter , but they get timed out
[04:05] <FoShizz> It drains your wi fi?
[04:06] <elisa87> sfdisk: ERROR: sector 0 does not have an msdos signature   (What should I do ? ) http://paste.ubuntu.com/5740880/
[04:06] <FoShizz> Like occupies ALL the bandwidth?
[04:06] <SattvaIz> Ubuntu 13.04 is draining my wi fi signal to the point thtat my iPhone can not even dowload a mp3 file wihtout timing out. how do i tell Ubuntu not to take up all my band width from my router ? is someone proxying my internet connection when Ubuntu is up and running ? is this possible ? i thought Ubuntu was safeer than windows?
[04:07] <Asharas> !1
[04:07] <Asharas> ups
[04:08] <Asharas> wrong term
[04:08] <SattvaIz> Foshizz yes .
[04:08] <dooglus> what's the command to shut down xorg?
[04:08] <FoShizz> That's really odd.
[04:09] <SattvaIz> i said when Ubuntu is running , i can not even download an mp3 on my iphone, it has router connection , but it times out ... but when i turn wi fi off on ubuntu , its all better . i know its Ubuntu doing this but how and why ?
[04:09] <FoShizz> You are sure it isn;t the hardware?
[04:09] <dooglus> it's downloading lists ofpackagesmaybe?
[04:09] <SattvaIz> FoShizz , not a hardware issue here
[04:10] <FoShizz> Hmm
[04:10] <FoShizz> monitor the traffic
[04:10] <FoShizz> see what pops up
[04:10] <SattvaIz> is there a way to configure how much bandwidth Ubuntu is taking up from my router ? can someone be proxying my internet through Ubuntu ? is there a way to stop this ? I know its Ubuntu because when i disconnct from wi fi its all better
[04:10] <utfans05> thats what i was thinking, dl wireshark and see whats goign on
[04:10] <SattvaIz> Fo Shizz how to monitor my router traffic please
[04:10] <FoShizz> See if your machine is actually absorbing all of the bandwidth and connecting to the internet
[04:10] <SattvaIz> what is dl wireshark in Ubuntu software center?
[04:11] <dooglus> johnjohn101: FYI the ATI driver you linked me to works, but puts a big ugly "AMD Testing use only" in the corner of the screen permanently!
[04:11] <FoShizz> do you have a computer hardwired into the router?
[04:11] <utfans05> SattvaIz: inside a terminal sudo apt-get install wireshark
[04:11] <SattvaIz> FoShizz =NO
[04:11] <johnjohn101> dooglus: other than that all issues resolved?
[04:12] <FoShizz> so all of your devices are on wifi?
[04:12] <SattvaIz> installing Wireshark now please wait one
[04:12] <FoShizz> ok
[04:12] <dooglus> johnjohn101: I can log in now.  with the fglrx-proposed I was offered I couldn't.
[04:13] <FoShizz> i was going to suggest using wireshark or another packet sniffer using a computer that is always connected to the internet
[04:13] <FoShizz> to make sure it really is the laptop's fault
[04:13] <johnjohn101> dooglus: for some reason and I'm not sure it's with every ubuntu but the amd drivers seem to lag 2-3 months.  my brother had the same issue for 10.10
[04:13] <SattvaIz> FoSHizz it must be the laptop because like i said whenever i toggle the wi fi on the laptop, then the iphone can download podcast /mp3 whatever
[04:13] <NaniBot> hello
[04:14] <SattvaIz> but wait one installing wireshark now
[04:14] <FoShizz> okey dokey
[04:14] <dooglus> johnjohn101: reckon there's any way to getrid of the 'test use only' overlay?
[04:14] <dooglus> johnjohn101: and thanks!
[04:15] <niel> what Ubuntu games do you guys like?
[04:15] <johnjohn101> dooglus: http://askubuntu.com/questions/206558/how-to-remove-the-amd-testing-use-only-watermark
[04:15] <Ben64> niel: try asking in #ubuntu-offtopic
[04:15] <niel> ):
[04:15] <FoShizz> left 4 dead is supported i believe
[04:15] <SattvaIz> ldconfig deferred processing now taking place, I assume its okay do start Wireshark now  and close terminal ..
[04:15] <utfans05> !ot | niel
[04:15] <FoShizz> and so is steam in general
[04:15] <surgeterrix> Whatever Steam supports
[04:16] <niel> ok fine
[04:16] <Ruh> Hello my friends, how are you all?
[04:16] <SattvaIz> ok Foshizz , what do i do with this wireshark now its open at the start page
[04:17] <FoShizz> how many devices are connected on your network?
[04:17] <SattvaIz> not sure
[04:17] <SattvaIz> just my laptop and my few iphones
[04:17] <Asharas> Anyone for this usb power trouble?
[04:18] <FoShizz> great
[04:18] <FoShizz> turn all of the wifi on them off
[04:18] <SattvaIz> ok wait
[04:18] <Ruh> Has anyone purchased the Dell XPS 13 Ubuntu/Developers edition and would you recommend it? :P
[04:18] <6JTAASPQ8> ubuntu
[04:18] <Asharas> FoShizz: he coulds have done it in non promiscuous mode
[04:18] <Asharas> could
[04:18] <FoShizz> guys i came here for help... now im like tech support
[04:19] <6JTAASPQ8> how many of you use ubuntu?
[04:19] <FoShizz> i actually dont use wireshark
[04:19] <FoShizz> i use pirni on the ipod touch
[04:19] <Asharas> well, if I can help you FoShizz (not sure but you can ask :p)
[04:19] <FoShizz> its a bit more blackhat
[04:19] <dem0n> FoShizz: that is how it works, that is how the open source community works, you first come for help, then you start helping
[04:19] <Ruh> Still using my GNOME 2 setup on 10.04.
[04:19] <FoShizz> thanks asharas
[04:20] <cpined> Greetings, I have a problem with the Resolution drop down under the Display settings.  I had to add the the resolution 1280X1024 using xrandr, although this will work from the command line, choosing this option in the Resolution drop down does not work.
[04:20] <Ben64> 6JTAASPQ8: seeing as this is #ubuntu, probably everyone here. but this is not a chat room, #ubuntu is for support only. If you want to talk about ubuntu, join #ubuntu-offtopic
[04:20] <SattvaIz> you tha man Foshizz thank you , now i have disabled wifi on everything except the lap top i am using to chat here
[04:20] <FoShizz> when i boot, i have no sidebars
[04:20] <utfans05> SattvaIz: you have to set it up to capture your network traffic. so you need to make it capture your wlan0 traffic
[04:20] <dem0n> SattvaIz: what is your issue?
[04:20] <FoShizz> so no unitry ( i think )
[04:20] <6JTAASPQ8> Ben64: hmm ok
[04:20] <6JTAASPQ8> Ben64: i dont use ubuntu :P
[04:20] <FoShizz> ok satt. now turn on packet sniffing
[04:20] <SattvaIz> demon my issue is that my laptop is using up all the wifi when Ubuntu is just idle
[04:20] <Asharas> oh... sorry FoShizz , I don't use GUI :-/
[04:21] <6JTAASPQ8> i just came here to idle and watch trolls so i'll be quiet again :)
[04:21] <SattvaIz> turning on packet sniffing hold on
[04:21] <FoShizz> oh... what do you use?
[04:21] <Asharas> pure cli
[04:21] <dem0n> SattvaIz: you mean that no other devices can connect to your wifi router when you are using ubuntu?
[04:21] <6JTAASPQ8> Asharas: me too
[04:21] <FoShizz> thats intentse
[04:21] <FoShizz> wow
[04:21] <6JTAASPQ8> Asharas: on ubuntu though?
[04:21] <SattvaIz> demon , no the other devices can connect , but they time out
[04:21] <Asharas> yup, ubu serv 12.10
[04:21] <FoShizz> how do you open applications and stuff up?
[04:21] <SattvaIz> Foshizz how to turn on this packet sniffing
[04:22] <Asharas> but I'm still a noobie and want to learn it the hard way :)
[04:22] <dem0n> SattvaIz: doesn't sound like an ubuntu issue, it sounds more like a router problem or a firewall issue
[04:22] <FoShizz> satt there should be a button or somthing
[04:22] <6JTAASPQ8> Asharas: use slackware
[04:22] <Ruh> What issue is he having?
[04:22] <SattvaIz> ok hold on
[04:22] <johnjohn101> wonder if ubuntu is doing dhcp instead of the router.
[04:22] <Asharas> SattvaIz: select the network interface and start sniffing with the button below
[04:23] <6JTAASPQ8> SattvaIz: you're having trouble using wireshark?
[04:23] <dem0n> johnjohn101: could be a number of issues, maybe he does not have enough bandwith to power all of his devices or like i said a firewall
[04:23] <SattvaIz> there are no interfaces on which a capture can be done
[04:23] <Asharas> O_o
[04:23] <6JTAASPQ8> SattvaIz: run as root
[04:23] <SattvaIz> how ?
[04:23] <dem0n> sudo
[04:23] <Asharas> yep, run as root :)
[04:23] <6JTAASPQ8> sudo wireshark
[04:23] <dem0n> sudo wireshark &
[04:24] <SattvaIz> terminal command sudo wireshark ok wait one
[04:24] <pump> qin, it's finished
[04:24] <Asharas> (I would have used iptraf)
[04:24] <Ben64> gksudo wireshark
[04:24] <SattvaIz> gksudo wireshark ?
[04:24] <6JTAASPQ8> SattvaIz: you must be very new to linux
[04:24] <Ben64> you shouldn't use sudo with graphical applications
[04:24] <dem0n> Asharas: i would have used tcpdump
[04:24] <SattvaIz> yes i am new sorry
[04:24] <FoShizz> guiz ive literally never used ubuntu before
[04:24] <pump> one of the partitions shows the lost+found dir, with a lot of subdirs named #nnnn, with n being numbers
[04:24] <FoShizz> you guys should probably take over
[04:24] <SattvaIz> thanks Foshizz
[04:25] <6JTAASPQ8> FoShizz: ive used it for a few minutes
[04:25] <dem0n> SattvaIz: don't use wireshark, we can come back to that...
[04:25] <SattvaIz> so i am doing gksudo wireshark then wait one
[04:25] <SattvaIz> huh ?
[04:25] <Asharas> +1 dem0n , but iptraf is easier, especially if you only want to monitor traffic and don't dump packets :)
[04:25] <SattvaIz> close wireshark ok.
[04:25] <6JTAASPQ8> SattvaIz: sudo wireshark
[04:25] <SattvaIz> huh ? use it now or not ?
[04:25] <6JTAASPQ8> use it
[04:25] <SattvaIz> lol
[04:25] <Asharas> anyone can help me with my usb ports?
[04:25] <Ben64> SattvaIz: i forget who said it, but the problem is likely to be your router, not ubuntu
[04:25] <6JTAASPQ8> -.-
[04:26] <dem0n> SattvaIz: first how are you using ubuntu? is it the only os on the laptop or are you running it in as a virtual os with vmware player/worksation or virtualbox?
[04:26] <6JTAASPQ8> Asharas: whats your problem
[04:26] <Asharas> 6JTAASPQ8: trying to turn off/on the usb ports
[04:26] <dem0n> Ben64: that was me =)
[04:26] <6JTAASPQ8> Asharas: modeprobe
[04:26] <Asharas> or reset it
[04:26] <6JTAASPQ8> modprobe *
[04:26] <Asharas> modeprobe?
[04:26] <cpined> Greetings, I have a problem with the Resolution drop down under the Display settings.  I had to add the the resolution 1280X1024 using xrandr, although this will work from the command line, choosing this option in the Resolution drop down does not work.
[04:26] <Asharas> !modeprobe
[04:26] <6JTAASPQ8> Asharas: modprobe
[04:26] <SattvaIz> first check this out, when i was running windows i never had this problem , and i am now running Ubuntu 13.04 clean install with nothing wlse going on
[04:26] <Ben64> Asharas: what do you mean "turn off/on"
[04:26] <6JTAASPQ8> Asharas: man modprobe
[04:27] <Asharas> !modprobe
[04:27] <Asharas> let me explain
[04:27] <SattvaIz> demon running Ubuntu 13.04 clean
[04:27] <6JTAASPQ8> use modprobe
[04:27] <Asharas> I have an external hard drive, which is detected by the bios because in the wrong boot order the OS doesn't launch
[04:28] <6JTAASPQ8> Asharas: you can use modprobe to remove your usb modules
[04:28] <Asharas> but not detected by the OS one launched, I have to unplug/replug to make it appear in lsisb
[04:28] <dem0n> cpined: okay so when you start your "gui" or window manger kde or gnome? you don't get the resoultion you want? and you have to adjust it with xrandr is that what you are saying?
[04:28] <Asharas> lsusb
[04:28] <FoShizz> ashras
[04:28] <FoShizz> just change the boot order
[04:28] <cpined> yes
[04:28] <Asharas> FoShizz: that's done, read what's going next
[04:28] <dem0n> cpined: are you running KDE or Gnome or xfce?
[04:29] <cpined> xfce
[04:29] <FoShizz> oh
[04:29] <6JTAASPQ8> Asharas: i dont support ubuntu at all though
[04:29] <Asharas> 6JTAASPQ8: ?
[04:29] <dem0n> Asharas: areyou running only ubuntu or are you running it with a vitual app like vmware player?
[04:29] <cpined> the weird thing is that I had the 1280 resolution as an option under the display
[04:29] <Asharas> only ubuntu
[04:29] <6JTAASPQ8> Asharas: it has spyware
[04:29] <Asharas> dem0n: only ubuntu
[04:29] <Ben64> !fud | 6JTAASPQ8
[04:29] <dem0n> Asharas: i'd almost guaruntee that this is not an ubuntu issue
[04:29] <dem0n> Asharas: what kind of connection are you running?
[04:29] <cpined> but then yesterday it went away
[04:30] <cpined> I wonder if an kernal update messed things up
[04:30] <6JTAASPQ8> isnt ubottu a bot
[04:30] <Asharas> from where to where dem0n ?
[04:30] <6JTAASPQ8> ubottu: it has spyware
[04:30] <6JTAASPQ8> ubottu: test
[04:30] <Ben64> 6JTAASPQ8: stop
[04:30] <SattvaIz> this is an Ubuntu issue because when i was running windows , everything was ok  , now when i toggle wi fi OFF on the Ubuntu desktop , the iPhone immediately can then download mp3/podcast or whatever.
[04:30] <FoShizz> dpkg -l | grep unity ~~~~ what key is that tall line thing?
[04:30] <dem0n> cpined: you are most likely going to have to add the resolution you need in your X11 configuration file
[04:31] <6JTAASPQ8> Ben64: what
[04:31] <Asharas> so dem0n , I'm trying to "remotely" unplug/replug the drive
[04:31] <utfans05> FoShizz: are you talking abotu pipe? |
[04:31] <6JTAASPQ8> !list
[04:31] <FoShizz> yea how do i do that?
[04:31] <utfans05> FoShizz: as in top | grep synergy?
[04:31] <FoShizz> yep
[04:31] <Ben64> !msgthebot | 6JTAASPQ8
[04:31] <cpined> the problem now is that after running xrandr I see the new resolution in the drop down under the Display options, but it does change to that resolution.
[04:31] <dem0n> cpinded: see if you have a file similar to this ~/.config/xfce4/xfconf/xfce-perchannel-xml/displays.xml
[04:32] <utfans05> FoShizz: it takes the output of something and pushes it to another command
[04:32] <6JTAASPQ8> lol
[04:32] <FoShizz> but where is it on the keyboard? Sorry, im super new.
[04:33] <dem0n> cpined: you are going to have to edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[04:33] <6JTAASPQ8> FoShizz: i really recommend slackware to linux n00bs
[04:33] <Ben64> FoShizz: depends on your keyboard, but usually shift+\
[04:33] <dem0n> cpined: go here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/Resolution/#Setting_xrandr_changes_persistently
[04:33] <utfans05> FoShizz: its above the enter bar on mine
[04:33] <Asharas> :'(
[04:33] <SattvaIz> i knew people would get bored with this issue , i could not find any help online from searching help forums wither , no one has this issue for some reason but i have isolated it to Ubuntu running on my wi fi through elimination process
[04:33] <6JTAASPQ8> ?
[04:33] <dem0n> Asharas: sorry i was heping cpined, okay first what kind of connectdion do you have?
[04:33] <cpined> Yes, I do have that file.
[04:33] <Asharas> dem0n: for the hard drive? USB
[04:33] <FoShizz> |
[04:34] <IdleOne> 6JTAASPQ8: mradot go play somehwre else please.
[04:34] <FoShizz> oh
[04:34] <FoShizz> thats a fail :P
[04:34] <dem0n> asharas: no i meant what kind of internet connection, for example i have verizon fios
[04:34] <6JTAASPQ8> i was being helpfull
[04:34] <dem0n> cpined: okay
[04:34] <FoShizz> thanks ut!
[04:34] <Corey> SattvaIz: "Using all the wifi." How are you determining this?
[04:34] <utfans05> FoShizz: anytime
[04:34] <dem0n> cpined: you have xorg.conf or the other file i mentioned?
[04:34] <Asharas> what's the point dem0n ? my server is at home :)
[04:34] <cpined> I have both files.
[04:34] <Ben64> SattvaIz: have you tried another router?
[04:34] <dem0n> asharas: because you are going to have to log into your router
[04:34] <dem0n> cpined: okay
[04:35] <Asharas> O_o dem0n why?
[04:35] <Ari-Yang> for some reason, I have no sound with mpd, anybody have an idea? (I'm on 12.10 and use pulse audio) current config http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=XHGGT7p3
[04:36] <Asharas> dem0n: it's a usb port trouble, my connection works perfectly
[04:36] <kaji331> I copy ~/.config/chromium to new system, but chromium did not recover my tabs, configs and so on. Please help me!
[04:36] <SattvaIz> am running wireshark form root now, how to select with capture ,,, have four options , eth0 eth1 and psuedo capture all - and linux netfilter log etc...?
[04:36] <dem0n> cpined: okay run this command: sudo gedit ~/.config/xfce4/xfconf/xfce-perchannel-xml/displays.xml
[04:37] <dem0n> if you don't have gedit use another edit such as leafpad
[04:37] <cpined> what do I do now?
[04:37] <dem0n> look for the line that says <property name="Resolution" type="string" value="1024x768"/>
[04:37] <Campfire-true> bellow me
[04:37] <Asharas> SattvaIz: choose wireless connection, something like wlan0
[04:37] <dem0n> and you can try and change the value manually
[04:37] <Campfire-true> whoops
[04:37] <dem0n> make a copy of the file first!
[04:38] <cpined> had to use vi since I don't have gedit
[04:38] <SattvaIz> Asaharas there is not that option only the four i said
[04:38] <dem0n> just incase you mess up you can change it
[04:38] <dem0n> so make a backup of the file
[04:38] <Campfire-true> carry on on
[04:38] <kaji331> anyone knows how to move chromium profile to new system?
[04:38] <SattvaIz> choose one or more interafces to capture form etc..
[04:39] <Ben64> SattvaIz: try capture all
[04:39] <SattvaIz> ok hold on
[04:39] <dem0n> Asharas: okay i am confused, i thought the problem was that when you are running ubuntu no other devices can connect to your wireless router that they "timeout" ?
[04:39] <SattvaIz> capturing all
[04:39] <Ben64> dem0n: you're thinking of SattvaIz
[04:39] <dem0n> Ben64: haha!
[04:39] <dem0n> thanks
[04:39] <cpined> this is what it already says - sudo gedit ~/.config/xfce4/xfconf/xfce-perchannel-xml/displays.xml
[04:39] <cpined> sorry
[04:39] <Campfire-true>  no doubt
[04:40] <dem0n> cpined: what do you mean it already says?
[04:40] <cpined> it already says - value="1280X1024"
[04:40] <dem0n> is that the value that you want?
[04:40] <cpined> yes, but my problem is that
[04:40] <Campfire-true> whats the prob can you catch me up to speed
[04:40] <dem0n> cpined: okay then you are going to have to edit the /etc/X11/xorg.conf file
[04:41] <dem0n> cpined: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/Resolution/#Setting_xrandr_changes_persistently
[04:41] <cpined> although the resolution appears as an option in the Display Resolution drop down, the resolution does not change after selecting it.
[04:41] <dem0n> that website will help
[04:41] <SattvaIz> ok i am capturing the network traffic on my router now but have no idea what i am looking at here
[04:41] <SattvaIz> this is ridiculous
[04:41] <dem0n> cpined: oh okay...
[04:41] <dem0n> SattvaIz: can you log into your router?
[04:41] <kaji331> please someone tell me how to move chromium tabs, histories, configs and so on
[04:41] <fire> .
[04:42] <Flynsarmy> I just used fsck to fix an ext4 filesystem but now it mounts without journaling. how can i reenable journaling?
[04:42] <fire> worked
[04:42] <SattvaIz> can i log into my router ? well this is getting way out of control now , i have no idea how to do that so i guess i am going to have to go back to windows then sorry
[04:42] <Ben64> SattvaIz: you just have a bad router, its not that big of a deal
[04:42] <SattvaIz> its not a bad router
[04:42] <Asharas> dem0n: no idead?
[04:42] <SattvaIz> how are you saying that are you stoned
[04:43] <Ben64> lets see... connections time out when multiple devices are on... must be the router
[04:43] <dem0n> cpined: change the xorg.conf file to the resolution you want, then reboot and it should start with the resolution that you want, if not then try selecting the resolution size you want log out and log back in and see if it changes
[04:43] <SattvaIz> well lets see, never had the problem with windwos .. bang Ubuntu
[04:43] <Ben64> ok bye
[04:44] <SattvaIz> jerk
[04:44] <Asharas> SattvaIz: easier: do a "sudo apt-get install iptraf" then run it, choose detailed interface stats, choose the right connection and wait for the speed
[04:44] <Guest9606> it
[04:44] <dem0n> Asharas: try rebooting your router, unplug it and plug it back in, if not then you need to find out how to log into your router and you may have to change some setting on your router
[04:44] <dem0n> Shit Asharas sorry
[04:44] <Asharas> dem0n: you didn't understand dude :p
[04:44] <dem0n> SattvaIz: you need to log into your router
[04:44] <Ben64> he's gone
[04:45] <dem0n> Asharas: i keep getting your confused with SattvaIz
[04:45] <Asharas> no routing problem here
[04:45] <Asharas> :p
[04:45] <Guest9606> next question
[04:45]  * dem0n has been up tooo long
[04:46] <campfire> seems we can dig into the the os with all your help
[04:46] <Asharas> well, if someone could tell me how to remotely unplug/replug a usb port, that'd be great
[04:46] <campfire> con grates
[04:46] <dem0n> cpined: try this, chmod +r ~/.config/xfce4/xfconf/xfce-perchannel-xml/displays.xml
[04:46] <dem0n> cpined: after you run that command try changing resolution sizes again and see if it works
[04:46] <Ben64> Asharas: probably won't work
[04:46] <dem0n> cpined: sorry do this: chmod +w ~/.config/xfce4/xfconf/xfce-perchannel-xml/displays.xml
[04:47] <Asharas> why Ben64 ?
[04:47] <Ben64> it's not a simple thing to do, usb spec doesn't really do that
[04:47] <campfire> why people so rude
[04:47] <campfire> iggnents
[04:47] <code46_static> hello... I am paticipating in a crush course and my group has been assign an opengl program and i have been able to get the libraries but when i run test code it cant find the header files error: /usr/bin/ld: error cannot find -lglut.c
[04:47] <Asharas> isn't it possible to turn it off and on by software?
[04:48] <code46_static> can anyone help me solve this
[04:48] <Ben64> campfire: whats your deal? if you don't have a question or an answer, you can stay silent. we don't need random comments
[04:48] <Ben64> Asharas: not really
[04:48] <campfire> fussterated people i just read
[04:48] <dem0n> Asharas: some linux distro's have usb device scripts in /etc/init.d
[04:48] <campfire> we need positive thinking
[04:49] <dem0n> asharas: look in /etc/init.d/usb and if you have something you can restart it from there
[04:49] <dem0n> or like someone said you could try using modprobe
[04:49] <dem0n> modprobe -vr
[04:49] <dem0n> modprobe -v
[04:49] <Asharas> dem0n: nothing like that here
[04:49] <campfire> hows you u -- ben
[04:50] <Ben64> !ot | campfire
[04:50] <dem0n> asharas: okay
[04:50] <dem0n> asharas: this is a long shot...
[04:51] <dem0n> asharas: but you could try this "sudo sh -c "echo 0 > /sys/bus/usb/device location"
[04:51] <SattvaIz> router issue ? i can see it now on Wireshark , someone is trying to hack my computer, but it says warning . encryption alert . and then they stop trying to hack in .. i knew there was something you guys were hiding from me. its probly people off of here trying to hack me!!
[04:51] <dem0n> that could restart your usb
[04:51] <code46_static> i can't run test code it cant find the header files error: /usr/bin/ld: error cannot find -lglut.c
[04:51] <campfire> answere is without a question there is no answere sir
[04:51] <SattvaIz> i can even see the ip address that is trying to hack in
[04:51] <dem0n> SattvaIz: oh ya...because you have port fowarding enabled
[04:52] <SattvaIz> if i knew what port faorwarding was i could deal iwth that comment
[04:52] <dem0n> SattvaIz: let me guess...it starts with 192.168.*.*
[04:52] <Asharas> dem0n: which device location exactly?
[04:52] <SattvaIz> nope
[04:52] <SattvaIz> it is
[04:52] <code46_static> i can't run test code fro opengl it cant find the header files error: /usr/bin/ld: error cannot find -lglut.c please help
[04:52] <dem0n> Asharas: you can pull your usb device location from "dmesg"
[04:52] <s0ulburn_> what is the package that I need to change the desktop from the Unity
[04:52] <Ben64> !nounity | s0ulburn_
[04:52] <SattvaIz> <IP_ADDRESS>
[04:53] <campfire> i,d say replace that line of code
[04:53] <Ben64> SattvaIz: that is google
[04:53] <Ben64> campfire: stop whatever it is you're doing
[04:53] <SattvaIz> <IP_ADDRESS> tryined to hack me first
[04:54] <Asharas> explain it dem0n , i'm not familiar with this
[04:54] <Ben64> SattvaIz: that is mozilla
[04:54] <SattvaIz> oh
[04:54] <SattvaIz> damn
[04:54] <Ben64> SattvaIz: neither are hacking you
[04:54] <SattvaIz>  i feel like a turd
[04:54] <campfire> doeas anyone see ben64 here
[04:54] <babble> troll
[04:54] <dem0n> Asharas: what usb device are you trying to restart?
[04:54] <Asharas> I runned dmesg | grep USB
[04:54] <Asharas> a hard drive
[04:55] <dem0n> okay..is it listed when you do "lsusb"
[04:55] <campfire> please pm me ben64
[04:55] <FoShizz> how do i create a desktop icon launcher?
[04:55] <dem0n> do you see the device?
[04:55] <SattvaIz> whatever , i guess i will just have to keep toggleing my wi fi on and off every time i want to use any other devices on the same router as Ubuntu because windwos was fine
[04:55] <Asharas> I runned dmesg | grep USB but can't see any file path
[04:55] <Ben64> campfire: no
[04:55] <Ben64> SattvaIz: you should ask in ##networking
[04:56] <Ben64> SattvaIz: i'd bet good money you just have a networking problem, not ubuntu
[04:56] <campfire> seems a waste of time to mess with me when you help like we all do
[04:56] <Asharas> no dem0n , not detected, only 5 usb ports
[04:56] <Ben64> campfire: you're just spamming. stop it
[04:56] <IdleOne> campfire: you need to stop with the off topic commentary please
[04:56] <campfire> or don,t
[04:56] <Asharas> Bus 001 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub
[04:56] <Asharas> and when detected it appears as Maxtor
[04:57] <SattvaIz> <IP_ADDRESS>  ?
[04:57] <dem0n> asharas: well if its not detected then i am not sure that you can restart it
[04:57] <FoShizz> does anyone know how to make a desktop launch icon from terminal?
[04:57] <Ben64> SattvaIz: verisign
[04:57] <SattvaIz> damn
[04:57] <SattvaIz> what is a fire wall and how do i get one?
[04:57] <campfire> anyways carry on carry on my rules are beyound yours
[04:57] <Ben64> !ufw | SattvaIz
[04:58] <dem0n> SattvaIz: if you have a clean install of ubuntu i am sure you do not have any firewall rules in place
[04:58] <SattvaIz> do i want to put fire wall rules into place?
[04:58] <dem0n> SattvaIz: chances are you need to restore your router to its default settings and that will clean everything up and you will be able to connect all of your devices
[04:59] <dem0n> SattvaIz: you may not have enough bandwith to power all of your devices as well
[04:59] <SattvaIz> damn, i am in thailand and someitmes they have to come to the house to reset the router .. will call isp and sort it out thanks Ben64 and demon and other sorry for newbie bs later and cheers
[04:59] <dem0n> asharas: if you can reboot your computer it may pick up the usb harddrive and if its detected we can restart it
[05:00] <dem0n> SattvaIz: np
[05:04] <dem0n> it got really quiet in here all of a sudden...
[05:05] <linu> Hi all,i am using ubuntu distro in that i want to enable tftp communication i have followed  "http://www.davidsudjiman.info/2006/03/27/installing-and-setting-tftpd-in-ubuntu/"  this link even thought i could transfer file throught tftp can any one help me how to solve this issue.
[05:05] <Asharas> dem0n: actually I often reboot the server, and it doesn't detect the drive
[05:07] <infexion> I am having an issue with my multiple monitor setup on Ubuntu 12.04. My primary display (DVI) keeps becoming the secondary display to my TV (VGA). This happens anytime that I reboot or logout and back in. Is there any way to set my Primary Display to ALWAYS be my primary display?
[05:07] <infexion> Any answers to this would be greatly appreciated
[05:09] <FoShizz> infexion i think you can change the settings within catalyst. (that is if you have an amd gpu)
[05:10] <infexion> FoShizz: Sorry I forgot to mention that I am using a Nvidia Geforce FX 9800+
[05:10] <infexion> FoShizz: When I boot up I have to go into Nvidia-settings to change the monitor to the Primary Monitor
[05:10] <FoShizz> isnt there an nvidia card utility of some sort? equal to what catalyst does for smd?
[05:10] <FoShizz> amd*
[05:11] <infexion> FoShizz: yes there is an it works but only temporarily.
[05:11] <FoShizz> can you set the tv as the default there?
[05:11] <dem0n> Asharas: that is the thing...if the operating system is not detecting the usb hard drive then there is no symbolic link to the device then there is no way to reset the usb hard drive because you can not send any values to it you can't do the "echo 0 > /sys/bus/blah/blah" because there is no link to the device
[05:12] <Asharas> back again
[05:12] <infexion> FoShizz: Yes I can set the TV as the default. But that would not be the display that I would like to have set as primary.
[05:13] <Asharas> can I send suspend to /sys/bus/usb/blabla/usb1/power/control ?
[05:13] <FoShizz> i fiddled with catalyst till my ipod became my second monitor. im not sure what to do with nvidia though. sorry
[05:14] <infexion> FoShizz: Thank you for your suggestions.
[05:14] <infexion> FoShizz: Greatly appreciated.
[05:15] <sambagirl> morning. is anyone successfully utilizing bluetooth in 13.04 / 3.8x Gnome / i7 / etc..
[05:16] <Asharas> dem0n: can I send suspend to /sys/bus/usb/blabla/usb1/power/control ?
[05:24] <asharas> back again
[05:25] <asharas> hey, when I log in my server I have this "Failed to add entry for user "
[05:25] <asharas> what's that?
[05:28] <asharas> dem0n , are you there?
[05:30] <yanick> Hi, I just did a apt-get update, upgrade then dist-upgrade and now apt-get is litterally removing ALL the packages on my system
[05:30] <yanick> ... why?
[05:30] <lotuspsychje> yanick: some packages might not be supported on your newer ubuntu version
[05:31] <lotuspsychje> yanick: you upgrading to 13.04?
[05:31] <yanick> lotuspsychje, it's kinda scary to see all of them being removed, including network-manager O_o
[05:31] <yanick> lotuspsychje, I did last month
[05:31] <phonejack> the channel number of my wlan card defaults to -1. how to set it to what I want?
[05:31] <yanick> it removed all themes, totem, nautilus... well, everything
[05:32] <lotuspsychje> yanick: you got 13.04 already? why you dist upgrade then?
[05:33] <yanick> lotuspsychje, because I have installed Gnome3 and some package need dist-upgrade to actually upgrade (beta)
[05:33] <yanick> lotuspsychje, Google Chrome is gone, all my icons are non existent anymore
[05:33] <yanick> I think that if I reboot, everything will be gone and I won't be able to boot again
[05:34] <lotuspsychje> yanick: oh ic, hmm not sure why it does that never did dist upgrade on 13.04 yet..
[05:34] <yanick> lotuspsychje, I did it before and everything was fine
[05:34] <cyrano_> I'm wondering if someone might have some insight in to this. This happens rather frequently. Hoever usually when I right click as soon as the menu pops up if I hover over the menu right as it opens the top option seems to get clicked wether I hit the left click button or not. This happens immediately after right clicking as soon as the menu comes up.
[05:35] <yanick> it started with an update manager message telling me that I had partial upgrade not done (??) so I ran my update shortcut and this is where I am now
[05:35] <yanick> I just started x-chat in time, because even x-chat is not there anymore
[05:35] <lotuspsychje> yanick: and did you stop update progress once?
[05:36] <yanick> lotuspsychje, never
[05:36] <yanick> I'm a somewhat long time linux user. Been having it for almost ten years now
[05:36] <yanick> linux is not new, but what apt-get just did is
[05:36] <lotuspsychje> yanick: thats odd indeed, not sure whats the logic of this
[05:37] <bluehills> hi is there v2102 have any relation with terminal emulator? what role v2102 plays in terminal emulator?
[05:37] <yanick> is there any "undo" to apt-get?
[05:37] <yanick> lotuspsychje, ^^
[05:37] <lotuspsychje> yanick: i guess reboot will be the only truth right now
[05:37] <lotuspsychje> yanick: is there a new gnome out maybe?
[05:38] <yanick> lotuspsychje, the fact that Chrome and most of my apps are gone means a lot; if I reboot, I won't have x-server running anymore
[05:38] <lotuspsychje> cyrano_: maybe you can make a screenshot of this and paste in channel?
[05:38] <yanick> lotuspsychje, even nautilus doesn't open anymore
[05:39] <dem0n> yanick: you should have used the do-release-upgrade command
[05:39] <lotuspsychje> yanick: this is sounding like something from the past, removing all packages that have depends on others
[05:39] <dem0n> or used the upgrade manager
[05:39] <yanick> dem0n, I did what I upgraded from 12.04 to 13.04
[05:39] <lotuspsychje> dem0n: can he undo this?
[05:40] <yanick> lotuspsychje, I'm attempting re-installing all packages manually....
[05:41] <lotuspsychje> yanick: yes you might wanna reinstall your favorite packages, and like dem0n says do a proper upgrade command after
[05:41] <lotuspsychje> yanick: that might save your day :p
[05:42] <yanick> lotuspsychje, I won't reboot until I feel safe. And, I've been doing the same update/upgrade command for the past 3 years. Nothing like this ever happened
[05:42] <lotuspsychje> yanick: well i think the dist upgrade command changed like dem0n says
[05:42] <lotuspsychje> !upgrade
[05:43] <yanick> really? dist-upgrade is not the same anymore?
[05:43] <yanick> some package are "kept back" if I don't do dist-upgrade
[05:43] <dem0n> yanick: no he can't undo it
[05:43] <lotuspsychje> yanick: not sure, but the url shows the gui way... its a new trigger i see
[05:44] <dem0n> if the upgrade was successfull then you could just reinstall all of the packages that got deleted
[05:44] <yanick> dem0n, it will take a while, but I'm doing this right now
[05:44] <lotuspsychje> yanick: how about you install 13.04 clean and reinstall your favorite packages from there
[05:44] <lotuspsychje> yanick: brand new fast upgrade :p
[05:44] <lotuspsychje> umm clean install :p
[05:46] <lotuspsychje> !wifi | phonejack
[05:46] <dem0n> yanick: it is probably for the best...you should reinstall all of your apps because if you don't you will have HUGE dependency issues
[05:46] <phonejack> thks.
[05:47] <yanick> dem0n, any package I'm trying to install gets me some weird dependency error messages
[05:47] <yanick> why can't apt-get resolve these deps anymore?
[05:47] <dem0n> ya i don't think your installation went through correctly
[05:47] <yanick> I use do-release-upgrade :P
[05:47] <dem0n> it sounds like your upgrade wasn't sucessfull
[05:48] <dem0n> yanick: your best bet is to reinstall everything
[05:48] <yanick> then why did it wait a full month before "crashing" ?
[05:48] <dem0n> you upgraded a month ago?
[05:48] <yanick> yes
[05:48] <babble> sneaky
[05:48] <dem0n> that is weird then...
[05:48] <yanick> and did SEVERAL upgrades since then
[05:48] <yanick> but tonight... all hell broke loose
[05:49] <dem0n> yanick: still i would do a fresh install
[05:49] <yanick> I guess I have no choice
[05:49] <dem0n> delete over everything and install with a fresh copy of ubuntu
[05:49] <lotuspsychje> dem0n: but what does happen by default if one dist-upgrade on a system thats already upgraded to latest?
[05:49] <theadmin> yanick: I suggest preserving /home, though.
[05:49] <yanick> theadmin, I have /home on a diff partition
[05:49] <theadmin> lotuspsychje: Nothing, it tells there is no new release unless you supply the -d flag which will update you to the latest alpha/beta/rc
[05:49] <yanick> theadmin, I have the same /home since 8.04... or something
[05:50] <dem0n> yanick: i know it sucks...i just had to do it with windows 7 + ubuntu about 2 weeks ago when my windows 7 (host os) crashed and i had to reformat, i lost everything but it happens and it just means you have a long night ahead of you
[05:50] <theadmin> yanick: Nice. I was just saying, you know
[05:50] <lotuspsychje> theadmin: well he dist-upgrade on his 13.04
[05:50] <yanick> theadmin,  :)
[05:50] <dem0n> lotuspsychje: if you are already up to date then nothing
[05:50] <yellowdog> Hi everyone!
[05:50] <theadmin> lotuspsychje: apt-get dist-upgrade? That's just a smarter update mechanism which updates packages that, e.g., have new dependencies or conflicts
[05:51] <yanick> lotuspsychje, it usually does nothing, but something it upgrades some unstable packages (gnome3, mostly)
[05:51] <theadmin> lotuspsychje: if it's do-release-upgrade, then well... You go to the testing branch
[05:51] <dem0n> the best way is to use the update-manager
[05:51] <Rabbit> Hello
[05:51] <theadmin> Meh, GUI tools are never the best way to administer your system.
[05:52] <lotuspsychje> dem0n: loose the w7 once and for good :p
[05:52] <theadmin> The update manager is rather okay though
[05:52] <lotuspsychje> theadmin: new upgrade trigger shows the gui way
[05:52] <lotuspsychje> !upgrade > theadmin
[05:52] <dem0n> lotuspsychje: heh, i have to windows 7 but i love using linux + windows 7 with vmware workstation i get the best of both worlds!
[05:52] <Rabbit> How to setup so it could execute jobs ?
[05:53] <theadmin> lotuspsychje: Well, yes...
[05:53] <dem0n> rabbit: cronjob
[05:53] <FoShizz> how come none of the settings i enter into ccms are saved next boot?
[05:53] <lotuspsychje> dem0n: i know, im too addicted to the ubuntu world :p
[05:54] <dem0n> rabbit: crontab
[05:54] <yanick> speaking of Windows 7, I'll have to reboot into it myself. Chrome got screwed and I can't download nor burn anything anymore :/
[05:55] <lotuspsychje> FoShizz: what ubuntu version?
[05:55] <FoShizz> 13.04
[05:55] <Rabbit> Does this execute on time dem0n ? ... Like everyday 2AM but not on weekend like that ??
[05:55] <FoShizz> its being a huge pain to install
[05:55] <FoShizz> im in like my 4th or 5th hour trying to install
[05:56] <lotuspsychje> FoShizz: are you trying to tweak compiz effects?
[05:56] <dem0n> Rabbit: yes
[05:56] <FoShizz> im trying to get unity to work
[05:56] <dem0n> Rabbit: "man crontab"
[05:57] <Rabbit> dem0n can i use Cygwin ?
[05:57] <FoShizz> so im trying to enable unity and other dependent plugins
[05:58] <lotuspsychje> FoShizz: im not following mate, unity is default on 13.04 did you broke it?
[05:58] <FoShizz> is there a save button im not hitting?
[05:58] <FoShizz> lotus thats where my problem is! i installed it but unity isnt showing up!
[05:59] <FoShizz> i have no top or sidebars
[05:59] <lotuspsychje> FoShizz: so you installed 13.04 clean or upgrade?
[05:59] <FoShizz> only ctrl-alt-t to get terminal
[05:59] <FoShizz> straight clean
[05:59] <Ben64> yeah unity seems to do that a lot... which video card?
[06:00] <FoShizz> ill probably try again tomorrow if i can't fix it within the next 20 mins
[06:00] <dem0n> Rabbit: cygwin is used for something entirely different
[06:00] <lotuspsychje> Ben64: on older cards? ive not seen it yet installing 13.04 on diff systems
[06:00] <yanick> alright, I'll have to reboot for good now. even aptitude started removing other packages and won't shut down
[06:00] <FoShizz> ive got an old nvidia geforce4 440
[06:00] <lotuspsychje> yanick: good luck!
[06:00] <Ben64> lotuspsychje: on lots of things
[06:00] <Ben64> FoShizz: you could try installing unity 2d, normal unity will not work on that
[06:01] <FoShizz> are you sure?
[06:01] <FoShizz> how do you know?
[06:01] <Ben64> 13.04 doesn't have the nvidia drivers for the 440
[06:01] <Rabbit> dem0n Cygwin For ?
[06:01] <FoShizz> FFFFFFFFFFFFFF
[06:01] <FoShizz> ive spent soooooo long
[06:01] <lotuspsychje> Ben64: would xubuntu help him out?
[06:01] <dem0n> Rabbit: cygwin is used for porting windows software over to linux
[06:01] <theadmin> FoShizz: Use the LTS for now, GNOME dropped 2D support and the one in Unity is in experimental stage, so stick with LTS
[06:01] <FoShizz> okay how do i install unity 2d?
[06:02] <theadmin> FoShizz: (which still has proper 2D)
[06:02] <Ben64> lotuspsychje: still won't have the nvidia drivers
[06:02] <FoShizz> ok thanks
[06:02] <lotuspsychje> Ben64: ic
[06:02] <FoShizz> ill do it tommorrow
[06:02] <Ben64> the mx440 came out in like 2002
[06:02] <Ben64> it is currently 2013
[06:02] <theadmin> FoShizz: You can also use Xubuntu which is more lightweight
[06:02] <FoShizz> my first taste  of ubuntu isnt going too well :P
[06:02] <dem0n> Rabbit: cygwin is a type of linux based environment for microsoft
[06:02] <Ben64> FoShizz: get a better computer... :S
[06:03] <theadmin> dem0n: You mean the opposite, porting Linux software for Windows :P
[06:03] <lotuspsychje> FoShizz: new graphics cards are cheap these days
[06:03] <FoShizz> is xubuntu still supported? i tried it last year on my laptop and it didnt even boot.
[06:03] <Rabbit> We do have PowerShell dem0n
[06:03] <dem0n> theadmin: heh, ya i wrote it backwards =)
[06:03] <theadmin> FoShizz: Of course it is
[06:03] <raven> can anyone help me make a windows xp start up usb from within ubuntu
[06:04] <FoShizz> lotus i have a 7770 in my main machine. the computer im trying to put it on im trying to use as a media server
[06:04] <lotuspsychje> raven: there is a w7 usb creator tool wich i forgot name
[06:04] <Ben64> lotuspsychje: well its also an agp card, so a new card would be pcie, so would need new cpu,motherboard,ram too
[06:04] <theadmin> raven: Windows XP is ages old. All tools I know that exist for Linux work only with Vista and up
[06:04] <lotuspsychje> Ben64: im sure he can buy secondhand agp newer card maybe?
[06:04] <yofun> okay...so i want to watch this live video tommorrow but....it requires microsoft silverlight....
[06:04] <Ben64> new components would be much much faster and use less power, it's what i would recommend
[06:04] <yofun> any way around this?
[06:04] <raven> :(
[06:04] <FoShizz> theadmin whats the drawbacks of xubuntu? can i still do everything i would have been able to in ubuntu?
[06:05] <theadmin> yofun: Moonlight?
[06:05] <theadmin> FoShizz: Yeah, just the desktop is different
[06:05] <Ben64> FoShizz: xubuntu = ubuntu + xfce
[06:05] <yofun> theadmin: whats moonlight?
[06:05] <raven> well is there a way to install windows 8 froom inside linux..
[06:05] <raven> my usb is only 2gb and i have no disks
[06:05] <theadmin> yofun: Is of Silverlight for Linux
[06:05] <yofun> raven:  there is
[06:05] <dem0n> Rabbit: okay rabbit, are you trying to schedule tasks in linux or are you trying to do it in windows?
[06:05] <yofun> virtualbox
[06:05] <theadmin> yofun: You can click "Install silverlight" normally in your browser and it'd direct you to the Moonlight website
[06:05] <FoShizz> i dont know what xfce is. Is that like a terminal based os?
[06:05] <raven> ?
[06:05] <Rabbit> Windows dem0n
[06:05] <theadmin> FoShizz: No, go over to http://xubuntu.org and check the screenshots
[06:05] <raven> i want to install it onto a hard drive an have it run without linux
[06:06] <theadmin> FoShizz: Compare them to those on ubuntu.com
[06:06] <raven> not a vm
[06:06] <Ben64> FoShizz: just a different gui interface
[06:06] <FoShizz> k
[06:06] <Sazpaimon> I'd like to mount an encrypted volume during startup where he system asks me for the password to unlock the volume. Can this be done?
[06:06] <Sazpaimon> s/he/the
[06:06] <dem0n> Rabiit: okay well then sorry i can't help you there.
[06:06] <yofun> oh theadmin i see...wow
[06:06] <yofun> lol
[06:06] <Sazpaimon> I don't want to have my encryption key out in the open
[06:07] <lotuspsychje> raven: http://www.webupd8.org/2012/01/tool-to-create-windows-usb-install.html
[06:08] <lotuspsychje> raven: but we really recomend you staying on ubuntu of course :p
[06:09] <FoShizz> wow xubuntu really looks like an open source osx
[06:09] <FoShizz> im impressed
[06:09] <FoShizz> how do i check if my graphics card is supported?
[06:09] <theadmin> FoShizz: Eh, that'd be more of the regular Ubuntu :P
[06:10] <theadmin> FoShizz: Opensource drivers will likely work, but don't expect 3D stuff to work well
[06:10] <FoShizz> 3D stuff like movies and stuff?
[06:11] <lotuspsychje> FoShizz: and some pretty neat xubuntu desktop examples: http://browse.deviantart.com/?q=xubuntu
[06:11] <Ben64> FoShizz: you'll probably have problems with lots of stuff, due to the oldness
[06:11] <yofun> ooooooh deviantart :)
[06:12] <FoShizz> thats too bad.
[06:12] <theadmin> FoShizz: ...You'd need a 3D-capable monitor for that. But I mean games and such
[06:12] <FoShizz> what limitations do you forsee for me system?
[06:12] <lotuspsychje> !info tilda > lotuspsychje
[06:12] <lotuspsychje> oh nice!
[06:12] <FoShizz> i don't think i'll be doing much gaming on it
[06:12] <Ben64> FoShizz: what do you plan to do with it?
[06:13] <FoShizz> ha! i don't know!
[06:13] <FoShizz> i pretty much only did it to see if i CAN do it!
[06:13] <lotuspsychje> FoShizz: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SystemRequirements
[06:14] <FoShizz> My specs are here: http://reviews.cnet.com/desktops/dell-dimension-4600-pentium/4505-3118_7-30529709.html
[06:14] <theadmin> Is there a way to stop certain daemons when on battery power and start them back when plugged in?
[06:15] <FoShizz> It's a really old computer. 10 years ago it was released, i believe
[06:16] <Smatik> i m new :(
[06:16] <theadmin> Smatik: That happens. What's your problem?
[06:17] <Smatik> well nothing yet
[06:17] <FoShizz> join the party smatik :3
[06:17] <roadkill> FoShizz: It'll run Ubuntu and heat your room at the same time, at least.
[06:17] <Smatik> i just wanted to know other things i can do with ubuntu which are not possible on Microsoft's operating systems
[06:18] <SJ__> hello friend
[06:18] <theadmin> Smatik: ...Is anything actually possible to do on Microsoft's operating systems?
[06:18] <FoShizz> too bad my drivers arent supported, roadkill
[06:19] <SJ__> what r u talking guys..?
[06:19] <raven> ubuntu hates me
[06:19] <lotuspsychje> !ubuntu | SJ__
[06:19] <Ben64> FoShizz: if you use 12.04 it has drivers for your card
[06:19] <SJ__> why?
[06:19] <FoShizz> ok i think i will probably go back to that
[06:19] <boichev> can anyone tell me a program that monitors the NAT network behind the gateway and makes statistics witch ip accessed what site and for how long for example ?
[06:19] <theadmin> SJ__: This is the Ubuntu support channel.
[06:20] <Smatik> I am a Student.I know C++ and m learning java. How can linux help me..?
[06:20] <FoShizz> boichev what are you trying to monitor the network  of?
[06:21] <SJ__> k bye friends....
[06:21] <lotuspsychje> !info iptstate | boichev
[06:21] <aeon-ltd> Smatik: ever want to run a server? 95-99% it'll probably linux
[06:21] <boichev> lotuspsychje, I was looking for a full web gui solution
[06:22] <lotuspsychje> boichev: lemme search holdon
[06:22] <boichev> lotuspsychje, I now do it with tcpdump and grep the host
[06:22] <theadmin> Smatik: With gcc and javac?
[06:22] <Smatik> See i m new...What can i do with a server?
[06:22] <aeon-ltd> Smatik: host things
[06:22] <FoShizz> why play games with friends, of course!
[06:23] <Smatik> Like Files and WEbsites?
[06:23] <aeon-ltd> Smatik: yes and more
[06:23] <FoShizz> you can also rent your server out. like free money?
[06:23] <Smatik> hmm sounds green
[06:23] <Smatik> how can i set up a server?
[06:24] <asharas> Hi all
[06:24] <aeon-ltd> Smatik: depends on what you want to do
[06:24] <Smatik> File Sharing
[06:24] <asharas> I'd like to clone my system to another hard drive, how can I do that properly?
[06:24] <aeon-ltd> Smatik: then you need to choose a protocol, and find out your needs
[06:24] <peterrooney> Smatik: (i) pipes.  (ii) linux can't help you unless you know what you want to accomplish.  (iii) (aside) learn a functional language as well.
[06:25] <FoShizz> ashras use any cloning tool
[06:25] <Smatik> functional language like pascal?
[06:25] <FoShizz> actually i only know them for windows though :P
[06:26] <lotuspsychje> boichev: seems like i only find iptables gui, as NAT can be configged in there
[06:26] <aeon-ltd> asharas: clonezilla? dd?
[06:26] <FoShizz> yea tools like those
[06:27] <FoShizz> UNLESS! its ssd
[06:27] <boichev> lotuspsychje, this calls for an open source project :)
[06:27] <FoShizz> is it a ssd?
[06:27] <FoShizz> cuz you can't clone onto those
[06:27] <Smatik> Any book or guide to Linux .. I think you cant teach me everything here..
[06:27] <asharas> I don't know aeon-ltd , it's a server and I'd like to do it remotely
[06:27] <lotuspsychje> boichev: re-ask your package needs in chat once in a while, im sure other might know something usefull!
[06:28] <boichev> lotuspsychje, ok thx :)
[06:28] <lotuspsychje> boichev: maybe the ##networking guys might know usefull tools aswell
[06:28] <aeon-ltd> asharas: i'm no expert, but how are you going to do this, ideally you need the system to be off before cloning
[06:29] <switching> :))) if anyone else has a canon pixma ip1700 printer, i have finally found a working fix for it
[06:29] <asharas> well, suppose I'll have to unpack my screen again to do this
[06:31] <boichev> lotuspsychje,  didn't know this channell thanks a lot :)
[06:32] <lotuspsychje> boichev: np :p
[06:33] <FoShizz> cheers guys
[06:37] <Flynsarmy> when i do a dmesg I can see some errors from mvsas with slot and port numbers from my scsi controller. is there a command i can use to see which slots/ports are mapped to which hdds?
[06:38] <Flynsarmy> sudo scsiinfo -l shows me which hdds are using scsi but not the ports/slots they're attached to
[06:46] <Phryq> is there a way to save playlists as .pla files rather than .pls?
[06:46] <Phryq> appearently my phone only recognises .pla
[06:49] <raven> i got the windows xp iso on the usb but when i boot to it it  just said windows xp and bootmanager is missing under it
[06:50] <aeon-ltd> Phryq: are there any export options?
[06:50] <Phryq> you know what, I just changed the extension and it seems to have worked
[06:50] <aeon-ltd> :)
[06:50] <aeon-ltd> if only conversion for all types were possible that way
[06:50] <Phryq> though my phone still doesn't recognize it. So in the end my phone is just full of shit
[06:51] <Phryq> ya, what an awesome world
[06:51] <aeon-ltd> Phryq: if there aren't that many songs per playlist, why not just reform them on the phone?
[06:51] <Phryq> "I need my mp3 to be a music video", "just change the extension to .wmv"
[06:52] <roadkill> pls and pla have always been interchangeable
[06:52] <Phryq> I have too many songs on my phone, it would take forever to do it that way
[06:52] <roadkill> it's like how sometimes it's .jpg and sometimes it's .jpeg
[06:52] <roadkill> both are the same in the end
[06:52] <Phryq> "I want my ISO to be an executable program" "change the .iso to .exe" "thatnks!"
[06:53] <aeon-ltd> that reminds me, why hasn't png dominated images yet?
[06:53] <Phryq> ya, I always wondered that about jpegs
[06:53] <roadkill> Phryq: That 4.7GB executable sure is taking a long time to load...
[06:53] <roadkill> aeon-ltd: http://xkcd.com/927/ <--- re: png
[06:54] <Phryq> not on my SSD!
[06:54] <Phryq> I would turn all my DLLs into music
[06:58] <MobPhone> Hello all I forgot a command I need to move all files from one directory to another
[06:58] <MobPhone> Can anyone help with this
[06:59] <llutz> MobPhone: mv path/* newpath/
[07:01] <Phryq> hey, anyone know why my volume setting is greyed out, and won't work?
[07:01] <Phryq> I mean the volume things on the top right corner in Unity. I'm running 13.04
[07:02] <MobPhone> Phryq what's the command to move all files from one directory to another needs to copy over the other files also
[07:03] <Phryq> you mean the command to copy the entire contents of a directory?
[07:03] <Phryq> one sec I'll try and find it on google
[07:04] <llutz> MobPhone: cp -a path/ newpath/
[07:04] <MobPhone> Phryq I've looked trying to copy all files in one directory and move to another
[07:04] <Phryq> cp -a /path/from /path/to
[07:05] <Phryq> http://askubuntu.com/questions/80065/i-want-to-copy-a-directory-from-one-place-to-another-via-the-command-line
[07:06] <kernelpanik> hi guys!
[07:06] <kernelpanik> a good ssh connection manager for gnome?
[07:08] <kiru> i'm a beginner,like to contribute to ubuntu please help
[07:09] <vico> español ??
[07:13] <DJones> !es | vico
[07:13] <vico> gracias
[07:17] <bazhang> !contribute | kiru
[07:17] <zetheroo> I am trying to rsync a file within a directory which has a $ character in front of it ... something like this: rsync -a root@hostserver:/directory/directory/$directory/file
[07:17] <zetheroo> but it's not working ... no error ... just getting a > character back ...
[07:17] <mpmc> try using \$
[07:22] <zetheroo> mpmc: I got it with: rsync -a root@hostserver:/directory/directory/'\$directory'/file     ;)
[07:23] <mpmc> :)
[07:32] <iceroot> what is the correct way to but an openvpn connection in "autostart" so that always when wlan0 or eth0 are up network-manager will connect directly to a specific vpn?
[07:36] <llutz> iceroot: if you edit vpn-connection in nm, there is a field "auto connect", enable it
[07:36] <iceroot> llutz: sure? have not found it but i will recheck, thx
[07:40] <iceroot> llutz: sorry just german but there is nothing like auto-connect http://alpha-unix.de/~iceroot/ubuntu/vpn.png
[07:40] <llutz> iceroot: kästchen mit "automatisch verbinden"
[07:41] <iceroot> llutz: guess i am blind :)
[07:41] <llutz> iceroot: hmmm, it shows here...
[07:41] <iceroot> llutz: 13.04?
[07:41] <llutz> 12.10
[07:42] <iceroot> llutz: i will boot up 12.10 later and will have a look, if it there i can use ubuntu-bug :)
[07:42] <llutz> so did 12.04...
[07:44] <iceroot> llutz: for non-vpn connections i have "auto connect" under the allgemein/general tab but not for openvpn
[07:44] <iceroot> llutz: ah my fault
[07:44] <iceroot> llutz: i have auto-connect vpn under the eth0/wlan0 tab. there is a drop down to select the vpn
[07:45] <iceroot> llutz: i thought its in the vpn tab itself and not eth0/wlan0 tab
[07:45] <llutz> iceroot: it's on the vpn-tab here
[07:46] <sjd_zeus> .
[07:46] <sjd_zeus> hi all
[07:46] <iceroot> llutz: http://alpha-unix.de/~iceroot/ubuntu/vpn2.png  wlan0 tab :) on 13.04
[07:47] <llutz> iceroot: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/80068731/vpn-auto.png
[07:48] <iceroot> llutz: good to know that you are german too :) so i guess they changed it with  nm-applet on 13.04
[07:49] <TKing> should i get a dedicated memory laptop for Ubuntu? If so which do you recommend nVDia or Intel HD Graphics?
[07:49] <iceroot> TKing: intel is providing the best drivers out there, so if you dont need the 3d performance intel is fine
[07:49] <iceroot> TKing: the worst i was facing is optimus, so nvidia + intel
[07:50] <llutz> iceroot: hm, i thought it commonly known that i'm german ... ;)
[07:51] <iceroot> llutz: maybe only because of "lutz" :) but i didnt know that, thought i am the only one which is active here :)
[07:54] <Mdi3> Hi everybody
[07:55] <Mdi3> I am using Linux Mint 13 Mate
[07:55] <Mdi3> just a quick question, can't find any clear answer on the web
[07:55] <auronandace> !mint | Mdi3
[07:55] <Mdi3> oops sorry, wrong channel
[07:55] <Mdi3> my bad
[07:58] <djdavis75> is 13.04 worth the upgrade from 12.04 LTS?
[08:00] <llutz> !find rtl_sdr
[08:01] <llutz> djdavis75: do you miss something, do ou have any issues? if "no/no", then no :)
[08:02] <djdavis75> prolly no/no then
[08:02] <djdavis75> 12.04 lts works, unless there is anything compelling new in 13.04, I'll prolly pass
[08:02] <djdavis75> i passed on 12.10 for same reason
[08:03] <Phryq> so is there any good reason not to install gnome programs if I run Unity?
[08:03] <Phryq> like, I want a drawing / paint program so that I can cut things out of screen shots
[08:04] <Phryq> just basic cropping etc. like mspaint for windows can do
[08:04] <djdavis75> i install gnome/gtk type program with unity and they all seem to work fine
[08:04] <somsip> !find inotifywait
[08:04] <somsip> !find notify-send
[08:06] <Phryq> and they don't slow down the OS with dependencies in and way?
[08:06] <Phryq> or make the system less stable?
[08:12] <accc> hi all
[08:14] <negev> how do you fix a half-installed package that failed during --configure?  i can't dpkg --configure -a, and apt-get --purge remove fails also
[08:15] <roadkill> --reinstall?
[08:15] <roadkill> sudo apt-get install --reinstall packagename
[08:16] <negev> failed
[08:17] <negev> http://pastebin.com/eEwVmUKx
[08:17] <basss> hello, how can i attach a named session on tmux
[08:17] <roadkill> negev: Wow. Between purge and reinstall, i can't think of anything else.
[08:17] <negev> how can i purge and reinstall?
[08:17] <negev> purge failed when i tried
[08:18] <roadkill> negev: That was my point. I don't know what else you can do.
[08:18] <Master_Scythe> Could someone give me some advice, or point me to the correct channel to ask in for this? I'm the Original Poster in this thread.
[08:18] <Master_Scythe> http://forums.atomicmpc.com.au/index.php?showtopic=54477&pid=1090973&st=0&#entry1090973
[08:19] <negev> it must be possible to fix this surely
[08:33] <melvster> does anyone know if indicator-applet has been removed from 13.04?  I cant seem to install it ..
[08:37] <Ruh> Hello everyone, how are you all? :D
[08:41] <energizer> what's the benefit of developing ubuntu phone? why would somebody use it rather than android?
[08:42] <melvster> energizer: ubuntu is more open and it's consistent with the other UX
[08:42] <melvster> im waiting for ubuntu phone before i get a new one
[08:42] <bazhang> energizer, #ubuntu-touch please
[08:42] <melvster> no other phone makes sense imho
[08:42] <bazhang> melvster, ^
[08:43] <energizer> thanks for the heads up, bazhang
[08:43] <bazhang> np
[08:44] <ActionParsnip> energizer: people like Ubuntu too, it will be similar to the Android model (one OS for all)
[08:47] <diverdude> Hey. Sometimes i do apt-get upgrade, and i get: The following packages have been kept back:   linux-headers-server linux-image-server linux-server mysql-client-5.5 mysql-server-5.5 mysql-server-core-5.5. I can install it using dist-upgrade so no problems...But why are they kept back?
[08:49] <skillpiG> Hi gentlemen!
[08:50] <skillpiG> Could anyone please direct me to some software for backing up a whole linux system over network ?
[08:50] <skillpiG> running ubuntu on my main machine on that LAN and I want to clone a whole Oracle Linux machine
[08:50] <skillpiG> for backup purposes :)
[08:50] <Spartan> Hallo
[08:53] <raven> can anyone tell me how to change my partition thing? i dunno..  im trying to install windows in a hard drive and it says that its not compatible with gpt?
[08:53] <somsip> diverdude: "If the dependencies have changed on one of the packages you have installed so that a new package must be installed to perform the upgrade then that will be listed as "kept-back"." http://is.gd/PwI38S
[08:55] <diverdude> somsip: ok...so normally if a package is just upgraded and not re-installed (meaning not dist-upgrade)....how does that upgrade procedure work? is that individual per package?
[08:56] <somsip> diverdude: I don't imagine I can explain it any better than that linked page, and the links from that linked page
[09:00] <raven> can someone help me  change a hard drive from gtp to a windows compatible thing?
[09:03] <llutz> raven: http://firewing1.com/node/610
[09:04] <llutz> raven: i'd still make sure to have an actual backup of your data...
[09:05] <raven> well its empty.. it used to have windows on it
[09:05] <llutz> raven: well then, sudo parted /dev/sdX "mklabel msdos"  ... create some partitions or just quit
[09:08] <raven> i did what you said llutz
[09:08] <raven> its says i may need to update /etc/fstab
[09:15] <llutz> raidghost: if the drive was empty, you unlikely have it in fstab. so no changes needed
[09:15] <llutz> raven_: ^^
[09:19] <Master_Scythe> With a USB stick install; How am I best to configure a boot menu (with a timeout) with two different resolutions?  One needs to be 15hz ( this is the default, for an arcade monitor) and the other 60hz for when i need to work on a PC monitor.
[09:23] <Master_Scythe> as in a LIVE usb stick, with persistance
[09:24] <phretor> anyone using vmbuilder? It appears that the --templates option is ignored. Any idea of why?
[09:27] <ShapeShifter499> hi
[09:28] <gRAVIty2> Lenovo x200 tablet shutsdown randomly and displays messages(which I can't decipher). How do I identify the exact source of the problem? screen shots in http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2150694
[09:28] <clu3> my server is ubuntu and everytime I git pull i have to type the passphrase. Is there away for ubuntu to remember this passphrase permanently?
[09:28] <somsip> clu3: add you public key to the git server
[09:29] <clu3> oh
[09:29] <ShapeShifter499> my netbook running ubuntu 13.04 is shutting itself down unexpectedly right now this is freaking me out because I was using this for a wifi router. I still have a internet connection from a limited secondary source (cellular hotspot). Any ideas why this could be happening?
[09:29] <ShapeShifter499> It runs for a hour or so then shuts down
[09:29] <clu3> somsip, thanks
[09:30] <somsip> clu3: easy enough :)
[09:30] <ShapeShifter499> just started happening after I installed iRedMail which is a automated setup package for a email server
[09:30] <clu3> somsip, on my desktop i think i have gnome-keyring or something, i can't remember what i installed but i have to type the passphrase only ONCE every time i login
[09:31] <llutz> ShapeShifter499:checked temperature, does it run hot on high load?
[09:31] <Spartan> Hi can i have help on triple boot?
[09:31] <ShapeShifter499> llutz, well I did notice the load was considerably higher
[09:32] <ShapeShifter499> llutz, and yes it seemed to run hotter
[09:32] <somsip> clu3: It depends what passphrase you mean then. If it's public_key pass then you must enter that each time it's used. If it's just your git access password, then setup a keypair on the server and upload the public key to the git server
[09:32] <llutz> ShapeShifter499: so next step is to monitor cpu-temp
[09:32] <gRAVIty2> Ubuntu 12.04 - Laptop x200 tablet - shutsdown randomly. Help anyone?
[09:32] <Spartan> Can i have help on triple boot?
[09:32] <ShapeShifter499> llutz, apt-get install cpu-temp?
[09:32] <llutz> !info lm-sensors | ShapeShifter499
[09:33] <clu3> somsip, it's the publickey pass
[09:33] <ShapeShifter499> llutz, ok thank you
[09:33] <ShapeShifter499> llutz, if I find it is a temperature thing what do I do?
[09:34] <llutz> ShapeShifter499: try to reudce the load, or try to increase fan-speed for better cooling, or ... or ..
[09:34] <llutz> reduce*
[09:34] <somsip> clu3: then it is how it should be. Unles you install gnome-keyring or similar on the server I guess
[09:35] <clu3> that's what i'm asking, i'm not sure what package it is
[09:35] <ShapeShifter499> llutz, I opened system monitor and it showed my cpu both cores bumping 100% but didn't show what process that was
[09:35] <llutz> ShapeShifter499: htop
[09:35] <ShapeShifter499> top wasn't much help either
[09:36] <ShapeShifter499> llutz, 'h'top?
[09:36] <ShapeShifter499> whats the 'h' stand for?
[09:36] <llutz> ShapeShifter499: idk, just a different "top" with some more options
[09:37] <somsip> clu3: pam_gnome_keyring may have something to offer you. That's a starting point only though. I can't help any more http://is.gd/JKt7gd
[09:37] <ShapeShifter499> I see that (googled)
[09:37] <ShapeShifter499> llutz, do I have to use a server kernel?
[09:37] <Muelli> Probably "Hisham's top" as per the htop's authors name.
[09:38] <llutz> ShapeShifter499: is there still a "server-kernel"? i don't see any sense in using one (if there is)
[09:39] <roadkill> ShapeShifter499: You can click on the elements in htop with your mouse even though it runs in a terminal window
[09:39] <histo> !info linux-image-server | llutz
[09:39] <Master_Scythe> ShapeShifter499; on quite a few laptops ive seen linux ignore fan speed\temp sensors. so you might find cooling is never kicking in. I cant help with that, i'm too noob, but Ive expereicned it on more than one occasion
[09:39] <llutz> ShapeShifter499: the default kernel should be fine
[09:39] <roadkill> Sort by cpu load and it'll show you the process chewing up your cores
[09:39] <ShapeShifter499> llutz, I think there is, I started off with a desktop install and I decided to turn it into a wifi router to replace my newly broken one
[09:39] <ShapeShifter499> llutz, I thought the server had extra code to help with server stuff
[09:40] <clu3> somsip thanks for ur help
[09:40] <somsip> clu3: np
[09:40] <llutz> ShapeShifter499: it might help on ha/hp server, but not on an home-machine used to serve some tasks
[09:40] <ShapeShifter499> ah
[09:40] <ShapeShifter499> Master_Scythe, now you mention it, I don't really "hear" any fan kicking in
[09:41] <ShapeShifter499> hmm
[09:41] <roadkill> The fan in my Chromebook is activated by temperature via the bios, not by the kernel
[09:41] <llutz> !info fancontrol | ShapeShifter499
[09:41] <roadkill> or OS for that matter
[09:41] <Master_Scythe> ShapeShifter499 yep; you'll be missing chipset drivers. and good luck with that.  Try find an option in the BIOS to force the fan on. Some have a forced "active" cooling mode.
[09:42] <llutz> ShapeShifter499: get lm-sensors/fancontrol up and monitor temps/fans. then you'll see if those need some action
[09:42] <Master_Scythe> ive never had fancontrol or lm-sensors work properly. As i said i'm noob, but when it comes to laptop chipsets, ive tried VERY hard and had a few I just couldnt work out.
[09:42] <Master_Scythe> fingers crossed for you though :)
[09:43] <roadkill> fan control is very much a crapshoot. different on nearly every model. i can't even get temperature readings in Windows on my A8 CPU
[09:43] <ShapeShifter499> I'm going to google my model, acer aspire one
[09:43] <ShapeShifter499> zg5
[09:44] <roadkill> ShapeShifter499: I have the first version of the AAO. The fan only spun up when it reached a threshold. Most of the time it was passive cooling.
[09:45] <Master_Scythe> Acers and MSI ive had problems with no fan
[09:45] <llutz> ShapeShifter499: roadkill same here on my old aao531h
[09:45] <ActionParsnip> ShapeShifter499: my girlfriends mum has one of those
[09:45] <ActionParsnip> ShapeShifter499: not a bad netbook, runs Precise 100% out of the box
[09:45] <roadkill> Seems random when it's software controlled or bios/hardware triggered. So as long as something isn't shutting down due to heat, I don't worry about it... lol
[09:46] <ActionParsnip> ShapeShifter499: just doesn't detect the battery but its oldish now afaik
[09:47] <ShapeShifter499> everything ran fine until my bright idea to offload my email services to that box
[09:47] <ShapeShifter499> xD
[09:47] <roadkill> heh
[09:47] <ShapeShifter499> I found this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AspireOne/AOA150
[09:47] <roadkill> ShapeShifter499: Should have used a RasPi for that ;)
[09:48] <ShapeShifter499> includes cli fan settings
[09:49] <ShapeShifter499> should be cooled off now, I'm going to see if those fan controls do anything
[09:49] <deckard> hello. What is the Firefox extension "Ubuntu Online Accounts" do? May i safely disable it?
[09:49] <Spartan> I have a problem with multi boot
[09:50] <Spartan> can someone help me?
[09:50] <histo> deckard: probably stuff for ubuntu one and music
[09:50] <histo> !dualboot | Spartan
[09:50] <deckard> ty, i will disable it
[09:51] <deckard> what is Ubuntu website integration extension for Firefox?
[09:52] <Master_Scythe> With a USB stick install, with persistance; How am I best to configure a boot menu (with a timeout) with two different resolutions? One needs to be 15hz ( this is the default, for an arcade monitor) and the other 60hz for when i need to work on a PC monitor.
[09:52] <Master_Scythe> what tool shoudl I be looking into? is it possible?
[09:53] <Master_Scythe> Im fairly new to it all.. i think ive seen options like that un GRUB boot manager, but Ive never seen GRUB on a USB stick
[09:54] <histo> Master_Scythe: you can install grub to usb stick and depending on how you made yours it should have grub
[09:57] <Master_Scythe> and am i aiming in the right area to do this?
[09:58] <Master_Scythe> is it a GRUB boot menu I can make?
[09:58] <Master_Scythe> so it can default to 15hz
[09:58] <Master_Scythe> but I can cancel the timeout and select 60hz if need be
[09:58] <paramm_> how to get unblock from IRC channel ? i m blocked on 2 channels
[09:59] <gordonjcp> paramm_: that's OT for Ubuntu
[09:59] <paramm_> OT ? whats that
[09:59] <gordonjcp> paramm_: some channels require you to be registered with nickserv before you can join
[09:59] <gordonjcp> paramm_: Off-Topic
[09:59] <paramm_> yeah i know
[09:59] <gordonjcp> paramm_: if you've been kicked off the channel for misbehaving, you'll just have to wait it out
[10:00] <paramm_> i am blocked since 1 month
[10:00] <paramm_> how much time do i hve to wait
[10:00] <gordonjcp> depends on the channel, depends on the op, depends on why you were banned
[10:01] <paramm_> can't i know the reason ?
[10:01] <paramm_> can i know the reason
[10:01] <bazhang> !ot | paramm_
[10:01] <roadkill> paramm_: Different operators in each channel. We don't know why people don't want you around. Ask in #freenode, this has nothing to do with Ubuntu.
[10:01] <bazhang> paramm_, stop asking here
[10:01] <paramm_> ok :)
[10:01] <DJones> paramm_: You'll need to contact the channel ops for the channels you've been banned in, if you join #freenode, they'll be able to advise you how to do that
[10:02] <paramm_> ops ?
[10:02] <paramm_> how would i know who is ops ?
[10:02] <bazhang> #freenode paramm_
[10:02] <DJones> paramm_: Join #freenode
[10:02] <paramm_> ok thanks
[10:02] <bazhang> gothere
[10:02] <roadkill> paramm_: type the following: /part #ubuntu, /join #freenode
[10:02] <roadkill> bloody hell.
[10:03] <gordonjcp> gosh
[10:03] <Master_Scythe> now he's gone
[10:03] <gordonjcp> I wonder what he got banned for?
[10:03] <Master_Scythe> am i shooting in the right area for my project?
[10:04] <roadkill> Master_Scythe: I cannot even begin to comprehend how you'd tell something to clock at 15Hz refresh on boot. You're going into majorly uncharted waters AFAIK
[10:04] <gordonjcp> Master_Scythe: wait what
[10:04] <gordonjcp> Master_Scythe: why are you trying to scan at 15Hz?
[10:04] <roadkill> gordonjcp: Arcade cabinet tube.
[10:04] <Master_Scythe> Because it's all a CGA monitor can show
[10:04] <gordonjcp> no
[10:04] <gordonjcp> you want 25Hz
[10:05] <gordonjcp> or, possibly 30Hz
[10:05] <Master_Scythe> no.
[10:05] <gordonjcp> definitely not 15Hz
[10:05] <gordonjcp> 15Hz would be a strobe light
[10:05] <roadkill> 15hz does sound considerably low.
[10:05] <roadkill> and I work in video, mind you
[10:05] <gordonjcp> Master_Scythe: if your monitor is only doing 15Hz it is not an arcade monitor
[10:06] <Master_Scythe> lWHOOPS! 15khz
[10:06] <gordonjcp> it's probably an old NASA one from the Apollo slow-scan kit ;-)
[10:06] <gordonjcp> aha
[10:06] <Master_Scythe> my appologies
[10:06] <gordonjcp> 15kHz is more like it
[10:06] <roadkill> heeeeeeeeehahaha. okay. NOW we're talking.
[10:06] <Master_Scythe> yeah, i need it to boot at 640x480 after a 2 second timeout, at 15khz
[10:06] <marianne_> Master_Scythe: try ##hardware  ... That's where I was sent yesterday to resolve my hardware issue...
[10:06] <gordonjcp> 15.625kHz/25Hz is reasonable for PAL monitors
[10:06] <sparcsunsolaris> please, provide me working link of 10.04 SPARC
[10:07] <gordonjcp> Master_Scythe: chances are you don't actually need GRUB to be 15kHz
[10:07] <Master_Scythe> marianne_ its not a hardware issue. I'm trying to do some funky custom booting of a USB ubuntu install :P i know the hardware is capable
[10:07] <Master_Scythe> its an NVIDIA card designed for 15khz supportr
[10:07] <ShapeShifter499> back
[10:07] <discocristo> http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=spxe05HW - any tips ?
[10:07] <Master_Scythe> the reason I want a boot menu, is so I can have 2 options. a default for arcade, and a 60hz option to work on the USB HDD at home on a normal PC monitor
[10:08] <roadkill> http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?topic=129135.0 <--- this thread mentions an equivalent 57.4Hz refresh compatible rate.
[10:08] <ShapeShifter499> I installed lm-sensors, the one sensor it found shows my system at 61C which should be ok because my main laptop is at 65C
[10:08] <marianne_> Master_Scythe: ah, i see... came into the convo a bit late... be interesting to see what people suggest
[10:08] <gordonjcp> sparcsunsolaris: check the mirrors
[10:08] <sparcsunsolaris> gordonjcp: link?
[10:08] <gordonjcp> sparcsunsolaris: google for it
[10:08] <gordonjcp> I don't have web access to go and do it for you
[10:08] <ShapeShifter499> llutz, ActionParsnip any ideas
[10:09] <Master_Scythe> ShapeShifter499, if thats after a fresh boot thats hot! if its an i series, or a CORE chip, its also VERY hot. when it hits 91deg it'll be doing a safety shutdown. Might be time to strip the laptop and creapply thermal paste. Its a job, but its worthwhile
[10:09] <llutz> ShapeShifter499: as it is still running, you have to wait and watch the temps until it shuts down to get an idea if it is temp-related
[10:09] <sparcsunsolaris> gordonjcp: "http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/" <--- no SPARC arch
[10:09] <sparcsunsolaris> please, provide me working link of 10.04 SPARC
[10:10] <Master_Scythe> dont expect an error or log though; its a HARDWARE feature to power off at 91deg on Core2, or i series laptops. SOME allow 105deg
[10:10] <Master_Scythe> it just hard power cuts
[10:10] <sparcsunsolaris> here "http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/releases/" SPARC is only on 7.04
[10:10] <Master_Scythe> Sorry roadkill, i missed your reply there.... reading that link now.
[10:12] <Master_Scythe> Roadkill: no such luck. I'll explain, a lot of this will be useless, but just so you get the full picture.
[10:12] <basss> hello, how can i define a variable in a makefile
[10:12] <sparcsunsolaris> form http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=ODUxNw I understand 10.04 is the last with SPARC support. I can't find the link to the image
[10:13] <Master_Scythe> There is an obsolete dance game called ITG2, which has an open source project on GIT called OpenITG.  The original game ran on a specially made linux box.  Now its so old, I'd like a bootable HDD, as the machine supports USB boot. This HDD would have a copy of Ubuntu (or lubuntu, or anything) and OpenITG set to autorun
[10:13] <Master_Scythe> so, USB boot, 15khz default, autorun game.
[10:14] <Master_Scythe> BUT id like a menu to select 60hz so i can take the HDD out and work on the themes and song packs from a standard PC monitor.
[10:14] <Master_Scythe> as i said, a lot of off topic info; but thats why i'd like a "select refresh rate" boot menu. With a timeout to default 15khz
[10:15] <fluffybunnyuk_> hi i was checking my drive and i found this  "Partial RELRO   Canary found      NX enabled    DSO             No RPATH   No RUNPATH   /usr/lib/libiberty.so"
[10:15] <fluffybunnyuk_> can someone check cos i thought it wasnt a .so?
[10:16] <histo> !find libiberty.so
[10:16] <Master_Scythe> ideas Roadkill ?
[10:17] <roadkill> None. I tended to stick to pretty standard monitor modes when running stuff like this
[10:17] <histo> Master_Scythe: air can the outlets by the cpu fan output.  That way you'll get better air flow. Laptops love to collect dust
[10:18] <histo> Master_Scythe: I can't htink of a way you can have grub select a monitor mode
[10:18] <Master_Scythe> histo, never aircan a laptop vent. You'll overspeed the fan. either fry the can, or fry the controller by turning into a generator
[10:18] <Master_Scythe> fry the FAN, not can ><
[10:19] <Master_Scythe> Histo; grub or something must be able to determine monitor mode, because there are boot switches for monitor mode.
[10:19] <phretor> do-release-upgrade on 12.04.2-> "No new release found" - WTF
[10:20] <Master_Scythe> Ive used them before, just not much more than forcing it to fallback to generic drivers and minimum res... so I'm lost
[10:20] <ActionPa1snip> phretor: there is no new LTS, so it's not wrong
[10:20] <fluffybunnyuk_> ok thx i'll try to figure out why i have a non-existant library
[10:20] <Master_Scythe> phretor its because its LTS?
[10:20] <histo> Master_Scythe: don't hit the fan just blow out the slots. You can even hold the fan stationary.
[10:20] <ShapeShifter499> Master_Scythe, I have spun a still connected fan fast with a vacuum a while ago while it was off and I was cleaning, no harm to my main laptop, fan still works/
[10:20] <ActionPa1snip> phretor: you need to tell it to look for non-LTS releases
[10:20] <histo> !upgrade | phretor
[10:20] <phretor> -d?
[10:20] <ActionPa1snip> phretor: no, -d is for development releases
[10:20] <ActionPa1snip> phretor: try researching rather tahn guessing
[10:20] <Master_Scythe> ShapeShifter499 you can be lucky. But ive been in the IT game for 13 years (just not linux) trust me, oversped fans damage things. and not always just themselves
[10:21] <ShapeShifter499> Master_Scythe, must have spun the right way, I didn't think about the generator capabilities at the time
[10:22] <Master_Scythe> well I'm disheartened no one knows a way to force what I want in Ubuntu :(
[10:22] <BluesKaj> HI all
[10:22] <fluffybunnyuk_> ditch ubuntu then and use something that'll work for what u want
[10:22] <Master_Scythe> Windows its simple. Just put a /VGA switch into the boot line, which will boot at 640x480. and if you're running SOft15khz, 640x480 is always 15khz. so it works...
[10:22] <Master_Scythe> but no way in ubuntu anyone knows :(
[10:22] <histo> Master_Scythe: ask in #grub
[10:22] <Master_Scythe> yeah?
[10:22] <Master_Scythe> ill ask in GRUB. or maybe use windows.
[10:22] <histo> Master_Scythe: you can pass vga modes to kernel lines in grub
[10:23] <ShapeShifter499> hmmm must be something else?   my netbook hovers around 62-63
[10:23] <jeevanus> why is all directories except /home is write protected from administrator user. How can I access? paste something?
[10:23] <Master_Scythe> Histo : just no way to have seperate boot options, with different VGA modes?