[12:01] <dyn-afk> kablam: did you use the graphical partition tool btw ?
[12:01] <_ph00> asymmetry, so what I have to do is removing the kernel package with the kernel version and keep the one without kernel version only?
[12:01] <Asymmetry> _ph00, that's backwards. No version = metapackage. Version = REAL kernel (don't remove it).
[12:01] <Asc> Hey, that's sure neat.  Thanks, Asymmetry.
[12:02] <_ph00> remove no-version, then
[12:02] <Asymmetry> _ph00, sure.
[12:02] <riddlebox> what do I use with dpkg to reconfigure a package?
[12:02] <_ph00> asimmetry: OK. no-version is "fetch-latest" with-version is "curent kernel" right?
[12:02] <kablam> dyn-afk nope i installed it but didnt get all dependencies
[12:02] <mcphail> riddlebox: dpkg-reconfigure :)
[12:02] <Peter77> how do I install firestarter?
[12:02] <kablam> somethin g borked and would not start
[12:02] <_ph00> so, remove no-version and keep yes-version
[12:03] <riddlebox> ahh I was trying dpkg --reconfigure
[12:03] <Asymmetry> _ph00, correct.
[12:03] <_ph00> cool
[12:03] <_ph00> thanks
[12:03] <kablam> terminate called after throwing an instance of 'Glib::OptionError'
[12:03] <kablam> Aborted
[12:03] <dyn-afk> kablam is using parted on the commandline ?
[12:03] <sethk> Peter77, easiest way is with the graphical package manager synaptic
[12:03] <kablam> yeah
[12:04] <sethk> riddlebox, the package name
[12:04] <Peter77> thanx
[12:04] <kablam> dyn the errror abvoe is what i get
[12:04] <w30> yhoughts/thoughts
[12:04] <riddlebox> sethk, exim4_4.60-3ubuntu3.1_all.deb
[12:05] <phiqtion> how do i get AMSN in ubuntu?
[12:05] <Shadowpillar> sudo apt-get install amsn
[12:05] <dyn-afk> how did you create a partition then kablam ?
[12:05] <kablam> sudo fdisk /dev/hdc
[12:06] <dyn-afk> ok
[12:06] <farchord> imo gaim > amsn
[12:06] <phiqtion> Shadowpilar, it says package not found
[12:06] <dyn-afk> there is a formatting tool voor ext3 but I forgot the name :X
[12:06] <ladydoor> !amsn
[12:06] <phiqtion> Shadowpillar, it says package not found
[12:06] <kablam> made aprimary for the whole disk partition 1 and wrote it to disk
[12:06] <ubotu> amsn: An MSN messenger written in tcl. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.95-1 (dapper), package size 2233 kB, installed size 7852 kB
[12:06] <godfather> how can i kill an application in crash
[12:06] <ladydoor> phiqtion: have you enabled universe/
[12:06] <ladydoor> ?
[12:06] <nico8481> hello
[12:06] <dyn-afk> it is a ext2 tool actually but you need an extra option so it will create a journal and thus an ext3 partition
[12:06] <phiqtion> ladydoor, no, how do i do that?
[12:06] <ladydoor> !repos > phiqtion
[12:06] <ladydoor> phiqtion: read the bot's pm :-)
[12:06] <kablam> ok so the tyoe i need is ext3?
[12:07] <kablam> type even
[12:07] <phiqtion> ladydoor, thank you
[12:07] <ladydoor> phiqtion: no problem
[12:07] <sethk> kablam, if you need to boot from that drive, you can't do it that way
[12:07] <Shadowpillar> phiqtion: all repositories enabled?
[12:07] <sethk> kablam, if it's not primary master, then it's unusual but not wrong
[12:07] <dyn-afk> you need more then 1 partition though
[12:08] <dyn-afk> well, it's a good thing to have at least 2 partitions
[12:08] <sureshot> hey all i am having problems with compiz i would like some help... first off i would like to know what xmodmap is
[12:08] <dyn-afk> one for / and a swap
[12:08] <w30> godfather, to kill an application type ps aux | grep application and then kill -9 (process number) which is the first number
[12:08] <nico8481> i'm trying to copy stuff from my ubuntu server to my osx machine but i run into problems using NFS (osx doesn't want to copy the stuff for some reason) so i'm trying to configure samba to see if it works better... any idea what does the "public" checkbox do in the "share folder" dialog ?
[12:09] <riddlebox> has anyone installed exim4?
[12:09] <kablam> dyn-afk: got it its sudo mkfs.ext3 /dev/sda
[12:09] <dyn-afk> nico8481 I think that would make the share publicly available as in: anyone even if they don't have a useraccount can reach it
[12:09] <dyn-afk> mkfs..ofcourse :P
[12:09] <dyn-afk> that easy :D
[12:09] <kablam> and i have a extra ata1000 controler card in thsi box
[12:09] <nico8481> hmm
[12:09] <kablam> ata 100
[12:09] <nico8481> :-/
[12:10] <kablam> even
[12:10] <dyn-afk> just don't do /dev/sda that is a scsi device or a sata disk or an usb disk
[12:10] <dyn-afk> bbl
[12:10] <dyn-afk> my mum tells me to eat some toast or something
[12:10] <dyn-afk> I'm not refusing that :P
[12:10] <RedGhost> ?:z
[12:10] <kablam> heheh thx man
[12:11] <dyn-afk> np kablam
[12:11] <sethk> kablam, it's not wrong to put a file system on a device
[12:11] <Peter77> ok how do I download firestarter?
[12:11] <Mike_BioNerd> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CommonQuestions
[12:11] <sethk> many people think it is, but it isn't.
[12:11] <w30> nico8481, can't you use ssh and rcpy?
[12:11] <sethk> unless, as I said before, you need to reserve that space for the MBR (that is, you want to boot from the drive), or you don't want to use the entire drive as a single file system
[12:12] <Mike_BioNerd> Does anybody know how to change the default background shown behind the splasch screen when dd starts?
[12:12] <nico8481> w30: don't think they've been integrated in the GUI... don't want to mess with the CLI to get my stuff copied :P
[12:13] <Peter77> is it possible to run KDE and GNOME on ubuntu?
[12:13] <kaot> yes
[12:13] <Asymmetry> Peter77, apt-get install kubuntu-desktop. I think.
[12:13] <Mike_BioNerd> just download kubuntu-desktop from ubuntu
[12:13] <Blissex> Peter77: it is more or less mandatory. DO IT NOW! :_)
[12:13] <Peter77> so I could switch between GNOME and KDE?
[12:14] <Mike_BioNerd> then you can choose at the login manager
[12:14] <steamR> Mike_BioNerd: sessions
[12:14] <kablam> Peter77: apt-get install firestarter
[12:14] <Mike_BioNerd> sessions?
[12:14] <Peter77> do I type that in the terminal kablam?
[12:14] <Dr_willis> gdm/kdm has a menu to puck what one to startup
[12:14] <kablam> Peter77: sorry forgot "sudo apt-get install firestarter"
[12:14] <sureshot> !nvidia
[12:14] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[12:14] <kablam> yeah
[12:15] <sethk> Peter77, if you install both, you can use the session menu in the login screen to choose
[12:15] <Mike_BioNerd> the default background under the splash screen? not brown?
[12:15] <Peter77> sethk, sweet
[12:15] <sethk> Peter77, there are other choices, too, not just gnome and kde, if you like to experiment
[12:15] <junmin> hi, someone can recommend me some tutorial/book/web page about the server administration? please
[12:15] <steamR> Mike_BioNerd: sorry, System->Admin->loginwindow
[12:16] <Peter77> "couldn't find package firestarter"
[12:16] <steamR> Peter77: In universe
[12:16] <kablam> Peter77: that command i gave you is for firestarter i thought you aske about that
[12:16] <sethk> Peter77, your repositories aren't set up to show you everything
[12:16] <sethk> Peter77, enable universe; you can do it from synaptic
[12:17] <w30> nico8481, how about your server? Does it act as an ftp server also? if so throw the files in your ftp directory or link to yor ftp directory.
[12:17] <sethk> kablam, he did
[12:17] <kablam> sethk: ok was a bit gone here trying to figure out my own problem
[12:17] <nico8481> w30: nope it doesn't
[12:17] <Peter77> how do I "enable" universe?
[12:17] <jrib> ubotu: tell Peter77 about universe
[12:17] <w30> nico8481, and then use a Mac gui ftp client to drag and drop them
[12:18] <kablam> hmm hdc1 is the first partition on hdc right?
[12:18] <sethk> Peter77, settings/repositories
[12:18] <Peter77> ok
[12:18] <we2by> wow
[12:18] <we2by> beryl is alot nicer than compiz
[12:18] <sethk> Peter77, look at your menus, they won't bite you  :)
[12:18] <sethk> Peter77, strictly speaking you aren't enabling them, that's just the misnomer that's commonly used
[12:19] <Peter77> I have, I can't find universe
[12:19] <kablam> <--- stuck in terminal miss my gui's :(
[12:19] <sethk> Peter77, you are just removing a comment character from the beginning of a line in a configuration file
[12:19] <sethk> Peter77, normally it is there.  you can add it (of course once you know what to add)
[12:19] <sethk> Peter77, you have nothing with "universe" in the "section(s)" column?
[12:20] <w30> nico8481, kill your wan and link your directories to be copied to an html directory and then use a mac browser?
[12:20] <Malachi> I installed kubuntu-desktop, and now openoffice doesn't work. Any ideas?
[12:20] <kablam> Peter77: read part 6 on thi page
[12:20] <kablam> http://www.howtoforge.com/perfect_setup_ubuntu_6.06_p3
[12:20] <nico8481> hmm... i'm gonna try ftp i think
[12:20] <steamR> Peter77: I would go for shorewall. Wery easy config files. Takes you 15 minutes to rtfm, then your in control. Not GUI by default...
[12:21] <nico8481> brb
[12:21] <steamR> Very
[12:21] <kablam> steamR: i got it workign without teh RTFM part in 10 mins with webmin=)
[12:21] <steamR> kablam: that is an option
[12:22] <Peter77> ok installed firestarter
[12:22] <w30> nico8481, if you don't have an index.html I think your server will serve directories in you server directory, www or what ever.
[12:23] <farchord> haha cool just discovered a cool game in ubuntu
[12:24] <farchord> PlanetPenguin (aka Tuxracer)
[12:24] <Peter77> ok now to install kde
[12:25] <Peter77> ok can I install KDE through Synaptic and what do I need to do?
[12:25] <Dr_willis> Peter77,  install Kubuntu-desktop as the Kubuntu FAQ states
[12:25] <Peter77> k
[12:26] <sureshot> what is the apt-get command do download and install the fglrx drivers
[12:27] <sethk> Peter77, there is also a KDE section (in synaptic) with lots of additional stuff
[12:27] <dyn-afk> sureshot: sudo apt-get install xorg-driver-fglrx
[12:28] <sureshot> thanks
[12:28] <iLLucionist> Hi, is it possible to install Ubuntu text-based?
[12:28] <wwwdotcom> anyone have amarok on their ubuntu/
[12:28] <sethk> iLLucionist, sure
[12:28] <iLLucionist> 6.06 LTS
[12:28] <wwwdotcom> ?
[12:28] <iLLucionist> sethk: params?
[12:28] <dyn-afk> yes iLLucionist
[12:28] <sethk> iLLucionist, use the text mode install on the alternate cd
[12:28] <brian98> Hi
[12:28] <dyn-afk> download the alternatecd and use that one
[12:28] <dyn-afk> it has the textinstall version
[12:28] <iLLucionist> sethk: alternate cd? ubuntu server? for I do not know
[12:29] <sethk> iLLucionist, no, there are three CDs
[12:29] <phiqtion> guys, is there yahoo messenger for ubuntu?
[12:29] <dyn-afk> if you also want ubuntu in text mode make sure you install "server"
[12:29] <rcmiv> edgy install sees my hda and my sda, but not my sdb, can I force it to?
[12:29] <sethk> iLLucionist, desktop, server, and alternate
[12:29] <phiqtion> how can i get yahoo messenger?
[12:29] <rcmiv> mount it first or something?
[12:29] <iLLucionist> sethk: I see, thx.
[12:29] <sureshot> how do i force an overwrite of the fglrx files
[12:30] <dyn-afk> phiqtion try gaim, there isn't an official yahoo messenger for linux
[12:30] <brian98> Weird problem, please help! I ping www.google.com and I get 64 bytes from <IP_ADDRESS>: icmp_seq=1 ttl=245 time=11.7 ms but it takes about 6 seconds and 6 seconds for each response thereafter. If I ping the ip all is good. I have 3 ubuntu machines on the same network and it only happens on one.. Any ideas? I have tried everything I can moving dns around etc...
[12:30] <iLLucionist> gtg, thx for info...must've been blindfolded while browsing through download list
[12:31] <phiqtion> dyn-afk, thx
[12:31] <sureshot> how do i force an overwrite of the fglrx files
[12:31] <dyn-afk> there might be more programs phiqtion
[12:31] <dyn-afk> sudo apt-get -f install ... << that's what I would do sureshot
[12:32] <pking> i was wondering is there a testbased web browser so i can use via ssh
[12:32] <dyn-afk> jup
[12:32] <dyn-afk> linnks, lynx
[12:32] <dyn-afk> *links
[12:32] <sureshot> dyn-afk thanks i messed somethings up need to start over LOL
[12:32] <dyn-afk> lol
[12:32] <rcmiv> pking use links
[12:32] <dyn-afk> nicely done sureshot :P
[12:32] <sethk> sureshot, you can use the --reinstall flag with apt-get
[12:32] <dyn-afk> lynx+ssl even :P
[12:32] <pking> what links
[12:33] <dyn-afk> links is the name of the programm pking
[12:33] <sureshot> what would be the syntax sethk
[12:33] <dyn-afk> -m
[12:33] <rcmiv> links rules, lynx is kinda overkill, in my opinion
[12:33] <dyn-afk> damn typo's
[12:33] <rcmiv> edgy install sees my hda and my sda, but not my sdb, can I force it to?
[12:33] <sethk> sureshot, apt-get install --reinstall package-name
[12:33] <pking> would apt-get install links   get it
[12:33] <dyn-afk> I think it's just what one prefers rcmiv
[12:33] <sureshot> thanks sethk
[12:33] <rcmiv> dyn-afk true
[12:33] <rcmiv> like em both actually
[12:34] <sethk> rcmiv, depends on why it isn't seen
[12:34] <rcmiv> sethk i was afraid you'd say that
[12:34] <sethk> rcmiv, sorry :)
[12:34] <sethk> rcmiv, any ideas?
[12:35] <dyn-afk> me too rcmiv, they're both good
[12:35] <sureshot> well that worked after i realized i did not use sudo... i think i am going crazy and i dont need to pack a back it is not a big trip for me
[12:35] <dyn-afk> so uhm, install both :P
[12:35] <rcmiv> I am going to go mess about, and maybe come back with more info....
[12:35] <dyn-afk> hf messing about
[12:35] <sethk> rcmiv, poke around in /sys, see what you can find out
[12:35] <rcmiv> no ideas at this time
[12:35] <rcmiv> thx
[12:36] <Rasta> helou
[12:36] <Rasta> just got dapper drake, any advice, recomendation, warning before install?
[12:36] <mathieu> what are people using for calendar applications that can import and export ical files ?
[12:37] <mathieu> other than evolution
[12:37] <sureshot> backup
[12:37] <Jas-Nix> hello, I am new to ubuntu as I've said :) how do I check the version of .deb's ? I can run apt-cache search banshee, but I don't know what version it is
[12:38] <jrib> Jas-Nix: apt-cache policy package_name
[12:38] <Jas-Nix> jrib: awesome thanx I will check out 'man apt-cache'
[12:39] <ubuntu__> i love you ubuntu 6.10
[12:39] <sureshot> does anyone here know how to get compiz to work
[12:39] <jrib> ubuntu__: tell Jas-Nix about apt
[12:39] <dyn-afk> mathieu you can try that calendar tool from Mozilla
[12:39] <jrib> ubotu: tell Jas-Nix about apt
[12:39] <dyn-afk> it supports ical
[12:39] <ubuntu__> bye :)
[12:39] <dyn-afk> and I think it also supports ical serverthingies
[12:39] <delight> the first beryl packages r done ;) did somebody try ?
[12:40] <SonicChao> !bearshare
[12:40] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about bearshare - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:40] <SonicChao> Hmm
[12:40] <SonicChao> Is there a way to use Bearshare in Ubuntu?
[12:40] <delight> funny that they have named the themes emerald :-D
[12:40] <Rasta> !install
[12:40] <ubotu> Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues
[12:40] <delight> !beryl
[12:40] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about beryl - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:40] <delight> !beryl-project
[12:40] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about beryl-project - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:40] <Rasta> that ! its useful
[12:41] <dyn-afk> what's beryl anyway?
[12:41] <THX-1138> #ubuntu-xgl
[12:41] <dyn-afk> sounds like some sort of chemical
[12:41] <dyn-afk> like radium
[12:41] <Rasta> or beryl
[12:41] <delight> dyn-afk is the fork of compiz not depending on gnome
[12:42] <dyn-afk> aha
[12:42] <dyn-afk> ubuntu is using gnome so I don't think a lot of them are using beryl :P
[12:42] <THX-1138> it's bleedomg edge don't be ;et down if it doesn't run well on ypur machine. - xcommger will
[12:43] <delight> dyn-afk lol ... its working with gnome 2
[12:43] <delight> its the quinstorm packages if you know what that is
[12:43] <Kojima-Kazuma> Ello
[12:43] <KDan> Ubuntu installed!
[12:43] <we2by> congrat
[12:43] <dragonfire1> hello
[12:44] <Peter77> ok it's nearly finished, thanx for the help
[12:44] <Kojima-Kazuma> what program should i install to make a boot disk
[12:44] <dyn-afk> I know quinstorm yes
[12:44] <aLPHa_LeaK>  nn
[12:44] <THX-1138> Congratulations! - Welcome to open source Ubuntu.
[12:44] <delight> so they forked from the novell compiz development team giving it a new name called compiz
[12:44] <brian98> Weird problem, please help! I ping www.google.com and I get 64 bytes from <IP_ADDRESS>: icmp_seq=1 ttl=245 time=11.7 ms but it takes about 6 seconds and 6 seconds for each response thereafter. If I ping the ip all is good. I have 3 ubuntu machines on the same network and it only happens on one.. Any ideas? I have tried everything I can moving dns around etc...
[12:44] <rcmiv> ok, hda sda and sdb are all correctly autodetected by dapper, but edgy installer does not see sdb
[12:45] <rcmiv> sdb is an internal sata hd
[12:45] <delight> because it was hard form them to integrate there patches as the novell workers were not very supportetive
[12:45] <THX-1138> rcmiv - Does the mount -a command help?
[12:45] <Kojima-Kazuma> What program would i use for making boot disks
[12:45] <rcmiv> THX-1138 haven't tried it, will do so...
[12:46] <THX-1138> kojima - boot floppies?
[12:46] <dyn-afk> it's not windows :P
[12:46] <delight> I mean then new name for the quinstorm is beryl ...
[12:46] <Kojima-Kazuma> no boot CDs
[12:46] <dyn-afk> mostly they use dd to write a floppy boot image to disk
[12:46] <rcmiv> do you have to mount -a  a specific partition
[12:46] <w30> brian98, I have problems with my ip if I use all the dns servers in the nameserver <ipnumber> resolv.conf file. Maybe play with the nameserver items in resolv.conf?
[12:46] <dyn-afk> but that's the installer bootimage
[12:46] <sureshot> ok all i had to leave the computer and i did not see a reply does someone know  how and willing to share how to install and make work compiz
[12:46] <Kojima-Kazuma> im making a ubuntu disk
[12:46] <Rasta> someone can give me a hand in how to register my nick? seems that i cant speak in many channels as i dont have a registered nick
[12:47] <w30> brian98, one at a time
[12:47] <THX-1138> Kojima - In Ubuntu right click onn the image. - In windows isopowertoy by alex feinmann
[12:47] <brian98> w30, ok
[12:47] <brian98> w30, thanks, it's weird how if only just started happening though
[12:47] <Kojima-Kazuma> i making a ubuntu boot disk so what program should i use
[12:48] <dyn-afk> maybe you have a DNS server that isn't reachable in your resolv.conf brian98
[12:48] <dyn-afk> if that server is the first dns server in your resolv.conf then it'll try to reach that
[12:48] <dyn-afk> if it can'treach it, it'll try the next one
[12:48] <brian98> If I DIG the response it instant dyn-afk
[12:48] <brian98> is instant
[12:48] <w30> brian98, I use insightbb.com and broadband cable and my troubles started early summer after they upgraded som stuff.
[12:48] <dyn-afk> that might cause the delay
[12:48] <w30> som/some
[12:49] <dyn-afk> strange brian98
[12:49] <THX-1138> Kojima - are you using windows now? isopowertoy. in ubuntu just right click on the file - from the command line cdrecord
[12:49] <Kojima-Kazuma> What program is best used for boot CDs
[12:50] <brian98> dyn-afk,  basically if i ping x.x.x.x It responds straight away and the pings come back about a second at a time, If I ping a host they never time out but take about 6 seconds each time :S
[12:50] <THX-1138> Kojima - I saw casper and the squashfs on ubuntu cds. It's the part the bios sees.
[12:51] <w30> brian98, how does the whois command respond?
[12:51] <sureshot> does anyone know and is willing to share how to install and make compiz work
[12:51] <brian98> w30, immediate
[12:51] <brian98> hrmmmmm
[12:51] <brian98> 0 delay
[12:52] <brian98> w30 host command is the same
[12:52] <dyn-afk> brian98 if pinging to an ip is faster then to a name then that points to dns trouble
[12:52] <brian98> just pings.
[12:52] <THX-1138> w30 - there is a  graphical interface on the admin menu - "network tools" - unless you are bash scripting why not use the gui
[12:52] <slipttees> hello
[12:52] <brian98> THX-1138, I prefer the console.. Faster
[12:52] <slipttees> fsck.ntfs ?
[12:53] <dyn-afk> sureshot: go to wiki.ubuntu.com and search for compiz, it has a very nice tutorial for installing and configuring compiz
[12:53] <brian98> I wonder if I apt-get remove ping and reinstall :)
[12:53] <Peter77> what other desktops are available?
[12:53] <dragonfire1> Is there a download I have to add to get video like the one's in Google? WOuld appreciate what to do . I can get the tutorials and voice in ubuntu thaks
[12:53] <sureshot> i will try again i think i have been there but i will check dyn-afk thanks
[12:54] <slipttees> fsck.ntfs ?
[12:54] <slipttees> !fsck.ntfs
[12:54] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about fsck.ntfs - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:54] <dyn-afk> sureshot that's how I installed xgl and compiz :)
[12:54] <THX-1138> flv video files
[12:55] <theCoder> is this a good place to ask a Ubuntu installation question?
[12:55] <dragonfire1> I also would like to see a monitor on tool bar for updates. My linux user group has them on theres what do I have to do to have an update area looked like two monitors thanks
[12:55] <slipttees> !fsck
[12:55] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about fsck - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:55] <slipttees> !fsck.ntfs
[12:55] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about fsck.ntfs - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:55] <slipttees> :(
[12:55] <THX-1138> dragonfire - desklets maybe?
[12:55] <levander> Anbydoy here is using emacs' tramp mode to open files via sudo?  I can't figure out how to get it to work.
[12:55] <brian98> slipttees, what do you need to know?
[12:56] <dragonfire1> thx I will look around thanks
[12:56] <slipttees> scandisk partition ntfs in linux!
[12:56] <slipttees> exists fsck.ntfs?
[12:56] <dragonfire1> which book would be the best to buy for Ubuntu to assist a newbie
[12:56] <gnomefreak> dragonfire1: the official ubuntu book ;)
[12:56] <bwlang> dragonfire1: imho, none - just ask your specific questions here ...
[12:57] <levander> dragonfire1: http://www.amazon.com/o/ASIN/102-2181915-4780960
[12:57] <THX-1138> Ubuntu publishes a very friendly manual - free naturally.
[12:57] <brian98> slipttees, I dunno anything about that
[12:57] <bwlang> slipttees: yes - it's pretty good
[12:57] <levander> dragonfire1: i've never looking at that one, but check it
[12:57] <slipttees> ?
[12:57] <dyn-afk> slipttees fsck excist but I think what you need is in the ntfstools
[12:57] <mipstien> how do you log your boot up and any errors that come out of it?
[12:57] <THX-1138> connonical ubuntu manual
[12:57] <dyn-afk> mipstien those are already logged in dmesg
[12:57] <gnomefreak> mipstien: it should already be in /var/log/
[12:57] <dyn-afk> in /var/log if I'm right
[12:58] <dyn-afk> in Ubuntu there is also a graphical way to get to it :)
[12:58] <levander> dragonfire1: http://www.amazon.com/o/ASIN/104-8221351-8303101 - that's the one everybody else is talking about
[12:58] <brian98> slipttees, what dyn-afk says
[12:58] <theCoder> I'm trying to help (via email) my parents install Ubuntu, but the installation CD had trouble loading on their system.  They said there was some error about "Buffer I/O error on device dm-0".  Does that ring a bell to anyone?
[12:58] <brian98> Anyone any idea on my issue?
[12:58] <bwlang> mipstien: it's always logged ... have a look in /var/log/kern.log
[12:58] <dyn-afk> mipstien: System >Administration > System Log
[12:58] <brian98> not my mental one
[12:58] <dragonfire1> looking guy's slow the scroll bar LOL
[12:58] <dyn-afk> :P
[12:58] <brian98> just the ip issue
[12:58] <levander> theCoder: you've got your parents installing ubuntu??
[12:58] <theCoder> well, I'm trying :)
[12:59] <bwlang> theCoder: sounds like  a bad cd or bad drive to me?
[12:59] <levander> theCoder: how did you talk them into trying it?
[12:59] <levander> theCoder: you've got to figure out what "dm-0" is, it's probably a hardware device, but i don't know which one
[12:59] <theCoder> bwlang: I don't think it's a HW problem (the drive seems to work otherwise)
[12:59] <brian98> Has everyone seen bill clintons latest recomendations?
[01:00] <THX-1138> lshw might tell you
[01:00] <bwlang> brian: can you summarize - i'm too lazy to read all the way back
[01:00] <brian98> offtopic http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/magazine/5388182.stm
[01:00] <brian98> bwlang:
[01:00] <brian98> dyn-afk,  basically if i ping x.x.x.x It responds straight away and the pings come back about a second at a time, If I ping a host they never time out but take about 6 seconds each time :S
[01:00] <THX-1138> lshw | grep dm-0 ??
[01:00] <levander> theCoder: it sounds like a hardware error from the error message
[01:00] <theblue> Bill Clinton > Bill Gates
[01:00] <theCoder> levander: is there an easy way to determine what "dm-0" is?
[01:00] <gnomefreak> brian98: feel free to confine your offtopic topics/links to #ubuntu-offtopic
[01:00] <bwlang> brian98: x = number, host = friendly name ?
[01:00] <levander> theCoder: do a google search on the exact error message, and the error message only
[01:00] <theblue> Pardon.
[01:01] <brian98> x = number host = friendly
[01:01] <dyn-afk> bwlang brian98 is pinging to an ip-address which is faster then when pinging to a hostname/domainname
[01:01] <mipstien> ok well i have an error that comes up during startup but it isn't showing up there i don't believe, it says something along the lines of not having permission to do something with /lib/modules/2.6.15-27-k7/volatile
[01:01] <bwlang> theCoder: sorry - i don't have any other idea of what might be wrong...
[01:01] <brian98> gnomefreak: I just thought that one was worth sharing, won't do it again: love the bottom comment.
[01:01] <theCoder> levander: tried that.  I found a couple references (in the Ubuntu forums) that weren't very helpful
[01:01] <dyn-afk> imho that points to dns problems
[01:01] <dyn-afk> like a slow dns server
[01:01] <brian98> which I agree with except host, dig and whois run fine :S
[01:02] <levander> theCoder: hold on, i'll google that error message, see if i can find anything
[01:02] <bwlang> brian98: what an interesting problem... i was under the impression that ping would cache dns resolution.  Do both end up with the same IP address ?
[01:02] <bwlang> brian98: did you traceroute yet?
[01:02] <brian98> bwlang: yes
[01:02] <bwlang> brian98: same route for both?
[01:02] <brian98> bwlang: and traceroute and tracepath both are ok
[01:03] <brian98> I could do a pastebin but there is no point because you won't see the pause...
[01:03] <bwlang> brian98: to eliminate DNS from the equation i suggest adding a record to /etc/hosts - that should narrow things a bit...
[01:03] <mipstien> ok well i have an error that comes up during startup but it isn't showing up there i don't believe, it says something along the lines of not having permission to do something with /lib/modules/2.6.15-27-k7/volatile
[01:03] <g333k_laptop> what about ubuntu edgy? is it still unstable?
[01:03] <brian98> bwlang: now there is a great idea
[01:03] <brian98> bwlang, one sec
[01:04] <bwlang> g333k_laptop: yes - it's not released yet.
[01:04] <levander> theCoder: it looks like dm-0 is a SATA hard drive
[01:04] <mipstien> is there a way to tell what a particular file is linked to which synaptic package?
[01:04] <levander> theCoder: you know what SATA is?
[01:05] <g333k_laptop> bwlang, when is it supposed to be released? I need some pkgs from him... like the new xfce4
[01:05] <theCoder> levander: yes, I don't know what HW is in the machine, though
[01:05] <caimex> I was turning on my comp and I got GRUB error 13, I saw this means unsopported format. My hdd certainly isnt dead, I can read its contents from the LiveCD. any suggestions for fixing this?
[01:05] <bwlang> g333k_laptop: i think end of the month... there's a schedule on the wiki.  If you're willing to put up with possible breakage and have some experience, it might be worth your trouble try it out.
[01:05] <theCoder> levander: does Ubuntu work with SATA drives?
[01:05] <caimex> yes
[01:06] <brian98> bwlang, ok, it's definitely DNS
[01:06] <levander> theCoder: i would assume so
[01:06] <levander> theCoder: does the LiveCD boot for them?
[01:06] <bwlang> caimex: i think you should run grub from your live cd ... set root (hd x,y) setup (hd x)  (where x = hard drive #  and y = partition #) both 0 based
[01:07] <theCoder> levander: the LiveCD is what is giving the errors.  It apparently does come up (after a long time), but the installation fails
[01:07] <mipstien> is there a way to tell what a particular file is linked to which synaptic package?
[01:07] <g333k_laptop> bwlang, lets say that I install it... what should I do when edgy be released
[01:07] <bwlang> brian98: if it's your ISP's dns maybe you could try  dnscache or dnsmasq to cache dns requests.  I like dnscache but some people don't like djb software
[01:08] <levander> theCoder: what does the LiveCD stall for so long on?  like what is the last message on the screen when the LiveCD is stalling so long?
[01:08] <bwlang> g333k_laptop: nothing - just update periodically
[01:08] <caimex> bwlang: can you explain how to do this. I'm pretty familiar with linux by now but I dont know what you mean by that
[01:08] <pyxystyx> hey guys...how do you turn off the bell for xterm and change the color scheme?
[01:08] <g333k_laptop> bwlang, so where can I get edgy from?
[01:08] <bwlang> g333k_laptop: that you're asking me that makes me wonder if it's a good idea for you try edgy right now...
[01:08] <levander> theCoder: if you don't know, it's not a big deal, i'm just curious
[01:08] <theCoder> levander: I don't know much about the error, only what they said by email.  I'm actually visiting them in a week.  I just dropped by here to see if this was a known issue that had an easy fix I could email.
[01:09] <brian98> bwlang, it doesn't affect any other machines on the network
[01:09] <g333k_laptop> bwlang, I will do because of neccesity
[01:09] <phire> hey everyone, Last night I managed to crash ubuntu, cause gimp had a 3.8 gb image, but I got to 80% of saving as a jpg, but the actual file is empty. Would there be a way to rescue it out of the temp or something??
[01:09] <levander> theCoder: here's kind of an interesting forum thread that has a couple of small things to check: http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/misc/40546-fedora-just-died-me.html
[01:09] <bwlang> caimex: just run "grub" from the live cd.  type "root (0,0)" or whatever , then setup (hd0) or whatever
[01:09] <caimex> k, I'll try this
[01:09] <levander> theCoder: but, my guess is that you're up against a hardware driver problem
[01:10] <printk> phire: might try .gimp-2.2/tmp
[01:10] <THX-1138> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=126746  open an xterm or terminal, and enter the two linesCode: set b off xset b 0 0 0
[01:10] <levander> theCoder: I would log that as a bug in launchpad, and see if you get any kind of response
[01:10] <phire> k thanks
[01:10] <filosol> hi
[01:10] <mipstien> is there a way to tell what a particular file is linked to which synaptic package?
[01:10] <levander> theCoder: if it's a known problem, that's the most direct way I currently know of for trying to find out
[01:10] <theCoder> levander: thanks for your help!
[01:10] <filosol> where can i download a live cd?
[01:10] <gnomefreak> mipstien: apt-file should help you there
[01:10] <g333k_laptop> bwlang, so where can I get edgy from?
[01:11] <pyxystyx> anyone?
[01:11] <levander> theCoder: it would probably be helpful if you could put the model of Computer and even if you have it of hard drive
[01:11] <sepb> hola
[01:11] <levander> pyxystyx: trying right clicking on the window and see if a menu pops-up,  otherwise i'd check wiki.ubuntu.com
[01:11] <sepb> Que hi ha algu?
[01:12] <phire> printk: .gimp-2.2/tmp is empty but there is a 3.8gb file called "gimpswap.10312"
[01:12] <weex> has anyone had a problem where firefox takes a long time to do a dns lookup?
[01:12] <mipstien> gnomefreak: that command does nothing and has no indication that it can do anything
[01:12] <levander> weex: it's probably the dns server's fault
[01:12] <levander> weex: try the same lookup from the command line
[01:12] <THX-1138> pyxystyx: did you see my link? xset 0 0 0 in terminal
[01:12] <weex> it's fast from bash
[01:13] <THX-1138> xset b
[01:13] <gnomefreak> mipstien: install apt-file first
[01:13] <levander> weex: firefox does have some bugs around the edges, try restarting firefox maybe?
[01:13] <weex> this has been persistent over several reboots
[01:13] <levander> weex: also, if i remember, there are some about:config settings for dns in firefox
[01:14] <gnomefreak> !apt-file
[01:14] <ubotu> apt-file is a program that can tell you in which package you can find the files you look for. sudo apt-get install apt-file && sudo apt-file update
[01:14] <gnomefreak> mipstien: ^^^
[01:14] <ifvoid> ok guys
[01:14] <weex> last night I even moved my profile but I'll check the about:config
[01:14] <levander> weex: also, irc.mozilla.org has a #firefox channel that's slow, but some knowledgable people do hang out
[01:14] <bwlang> i just lost my connection... somebody was asking me about edgy upgradeing ... here's the link
[01:14] <bwlang> http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy
[01:14] <ifvoid> I just upgraded my edgy laptop tonight
[01:14] <mipstien> gnomefreak: yes?
[01:14] <ifvoid> and now it's totally borked
[01:14] <mipstien> gnomefreak n/m i see it
[01:14] <weex> thanks levander
[01:14] <sepb> Sou tots forasters?
[01:14] <gnomefreak> mipstien: read what ubotu said
[01:14] <martii> hi
[01:14] <ifvoid> something seesm _very_ wrong with dhclient and firends
[01:14] <bwlang> If I've ignored you please repeat your message...
[01:15] <martii> I have latest edgy beta1
[01:15] <martii> looks like network manager doesn't work well
[01:15] <brian__> .
[01:15] <g333k_laptop> what should  I do if I want xfce4 from edgy to install in dapper ?
[01:15] <KDan> where can I find a list of what's in the Ubuntu Dapper universe?
[01:15] <ifvoid> I get lots of permission denied errors
[01:15] <martii> its unable to save gateway info
[01:15] <we2by> guys
[01:15] <filosol> anyone knows where i can download a livecd
[01:15] <we2by> what file extension are the emerald themes files??
[01:15] <mipstien> gnomefreak: so how do i link a file to an apt instead of apt to file?
[01:16] <chrisjw> hi there, could someone tell me how to install tahoma please?
[01:16] <THX-1138> we2by - emerald theme? - sounds interesting
[01:16] <gnomefreak> mipstien: you wanted to find out what file belonged to what package right?
[01:16] <Languid> has anyone else in here had problems with usplash displaying a weird "test" image instead the true edgy one after upgrading to edgy?
[01:16] <we2by> THX-1138, yea
[01:16] <chrisjw> I have a windows license so it shouldn't be an infringement of copyright laws
[01:16] <we2by> just got it installed and working perfect
[01:16] <mipstien> gnomefreak i wanted to find out which program used the files in /lib/modules/2.6.15-27-k7/volatile
[01:17] <gnomefreak> mipstien: nvidia-glx
[01:17] <ravenous> anyone know how to set a seperate resolution for a laptop screen and regular monitor connected to it?
[01:17] <gnomefreak> mipstien: thats one of a few
[01:17] <THX-1138> chrisjw - lol - the DMCA digital millenium copyright act makes us all criminals in the US. muhahaha!
[01:17] <mipstien> gnomefreak: ok well if i fix my bootup error it causes my nvidia to sotp working. . .
[01:18] <ifvoid> no one has an pointer for network problems with edgy?
[01:18] <chrisjw> hehe
[01:18] <chrisjw> how would i install it though?
[01:18] <chrisjw> I'm having problems with fonts on this OS
[01:18] <chrisjw> its just looking evil
[01:18] <bwlang> chrisjw: if you're talking about the font  you want the msttcorefonts package
[01:18] <mipstien> gnomefreak: the files in /lib/modules/2.6.15-27-k7/volatile are causeing a problem something about permissions, i can't find the exact error, but if i reinstall nvidia it makes opengl stop working
[01:18] <Languid> has anyone else in here had problems with usplash displaying a weird "test" image instead the true edgy one after upgrading to edgy?  anyone?
[01:18] <chrisjw> like bold looks all horrid and i don't really like the clear type effect
[01:18] <DJ_Danni> Hello
[01:18] <THX-1138> !fonts
[01:18] <ubotu> Font installation basics here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FontInstallHowto
[01:18] <ubotu> No fonts in flash? Install msttcorefonts, gsfonts, and gsfonts-x11 , No fonts in mplayer? see !mplayer
[01:18] <chrisjw> that package doesn't include tahoma :(
[01:18] <we2by> what file extension are the emerald themes files??
[01:18] <DJ_Danni> Hey i need a help
[01:18] <DJ_Danni> #2002 - The server is not responding (or the local MySQL server's socket is not correctly configured)
[01:18] <DJ_Danni> What dose this mean?
[01:18] <elaziz> i have 5.10 version of ubuntu, is it possible to update to dapper after installtion of 5.10 easily?
[01:19] <bwlang> chrisjw: hmm - well i guess you could just put the ttf /usr/share/fonts
[01:20] <DJ_Danni> Me?
[01:20] <brian__> how long does it take for your clone to die when your connection times out :)
[01:20] <elaziz> is it easy to update to latest version of ubuntu ? or should i download the iso file of dapper?
[01:20] <chrisjw> can i copy the tahoma from my windows partition
[01:20] <THX-1138> alaziz - i would download the iso
[01:20] <bwlang> DJ_Danni: it doesn't sound like you have mysql running properly ... and some other program is trying to use it.
[01:21] <bwlang> chrisjw: you can, as far as "may you" i don't know
[01:21] <steveire> hey. During the edgy install there was a section about choosing a network interface. I think I picked the wrong one, because I can't connect to the internet using it. Can I make that choice again?
[01:21] <elaziz> is there a configuration tool for xgl in dapper?
[01:21] <chrisjw> its just the fonts look really weird
[01:21] <DJ_Danni> Noat shure but the My SQL shut be runing:S
[01:21] <bwlang> steveire: now is the time to learn about /etc/network/interfaces...
[01:21] <brian__> steveire, #ubutuntu+1
[01:21] <mipstien> the files in /lib/modules/2.6.15-27-k7/volatile are causeing a problem something about permissions, i can't find the exact error, but if i reinstall nvidia it makes opengl stop working
[01:22] <chrisjw> I have 96dpi but it's displaying bold really badly, like close together
[01:22] <filosol> very usuful
[01:22] <steveire> brian__: It's not specific to edgy.
[01:22] <THX-1138> stevire - ifconfig is the netwrok command
[01:22] <DJ_Danni> i am logged in as root
[01:22] <steveire> bwlang: Ok, let's go.
[01:22] <THX-1138> iwconfig - wireless
[01:23] <sktfeelsdapper> Is there a wine room?
[01:23] <almimoni> hi, how to install xfce on Ubuntu 6.06?
[01:23] <pianoboy3333> What program can allow me to view the pictures on my iPod, so I can delete a few I don't need?
[01:23] <DJ_Danni> Do you know how i can fix this?
[01:23] <steveire> yeah, I tried if- and iwconfig, and I don't think my eth0 and ath0 showed up as they do in dapper.
[01:23] <brian__> alimoni sudo aptitute install xfce-desktop
[01:23] <Languid> anyone know of an easy way to install firefox 2.0 rc1 on edgy?
[01:23] <sktfeelsdapper> I gotta find out why aim isn't working in wine...but that's ok.
[01:24] <slavik> Languid: just update?
[01:24] <slavik> Languid: #ubuntu+1 for edgy needs :)
[01:24] <Languid> slavik, thanks, ill ask there :)
[01:24] <sktfeelsdapper> Is there a wine room?
[01:24] <elaziz> hehe i pick up a girl via ubuntu hehehe
[01:24] <brian__> almimoni,  sudo aptitute install xfce-desktop
[01:24] <brian__> almimoni,  or see http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=205002
[01:24] <sktfeelsdapper> i'm curious to see why wine doesn't work for me.
[01:24] <sktfeelsdapper> well wine works, just aim doesn't work in wine.
[01:25] <bwlang> elaziz: uhoh - i hope it's not one of those "i'll date you if you fix my computer" situations ;)
[01:25] <rcmiv> ok...I finally have my question specifically defined...drive sdb and all of it's partitions are mountable, but gparted cannot see /dev/sdb...any ideas?
[01:25] <rcmiv> its
[01:25] <slavik> sktfeelsdapper: why do you need AIM? use GAIM
[01:25] <brosnan> Languid: you can download firefox 2 from mozilla.org and follow https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxNewVersion
[01:25] <pianoboy3333> What program can allow me to view the pictures on my iPod, so I can delete a few I don't need?]
[01:25] <almimoni> THX very much :)
[01:25] <sktfeelsdapper> It's not so much I need it, I just want to try it.
[01:25] <bwlang> rcmiv: does fdisk -l /dev/sdb output what you expect?
[01:25] <sktfeelsdapper> I'm using mIRC on wine right now.
[01:25] <sktfeelsdapper> But aim can't build some cooldll or something like that.
[01:25] <sktfeelsdapper> !wine
[01:25] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[01:26] <steveire> I want to mount my edgy partition in dapper. Is there a script I can run again to find and mount all available drives?
[01:26] <rcmiv> bwlang, yes
[01:26] <Languid> brosnan, that works.  thanks! :)  ill give it a shot
[01:26] <rcmiv> bwlang, it outputs all of the correct partitions
[01:26] <bwlang> rcmiv: bummer - i've never seen a situation where those two disagree... - you are running from a lived or another disk right?
[01:26] <bwlang> rcmiv: s/lived/livecd/
[01:27] <rcmiv> bwlang, running edgy livecd, can't do an install because of gparted's blindess
[01:27] <sureshot> the ubuntu wiki says that the compiz software is alfa and the repos are broken do not install is this page just old or is this true
[01:27] <rcmiv> bwlang, have mounted the drive, and can see all the partitions, but gparted cannot...weird
[01:27] <Tokenbad> sureshot, they went from compiz to beryl
[01:28] <Tokenbad> beryl is now released though
[01:28] <Asymmetry> I can't believe some of the people that bother talking in ##linux.
[01:28] <rcmiv> bwlang, what is s/lived/livecd?
[01:28] <sureshot> so search on bery
[01:28] <bwlang> rcmiv: sorry - i'm stumped...  just one idea (maybe it's bad)  you could try rewriting your partition table by deleting and re-adding one.  Be careful - that's dangerous
[01:28] <DJ_Danni> Do somone know hwo i start the MySQL?
[01:29] <Asymmetry> DJ_Danni, sudo /etc/init.d/mysql start
[01:29] <Tokenbad> so you could do the dapper howto but change compiz to beryl
[01:29] <rcmiv> bwlang, thanks for your help, i understand it's a weird sitch...prob a bug...
[01:29] <bwlang> rcmiv: it means replace lived with livecd - that's a "regular expression" used in programming
[01:29] <Tokenbad> sureshot, so you could do the dapper howto but change compiz to beryl
[01:29] <DJ_Danni> I have tryek /etc/init.d/mysql Start and restart and i cannoat see it Restart or Start:S
[01:29] <sureshot> Tokenbad have to be sorta straight up with me i have to have 2 operations on my back and not till november and i am on pretty stiff pain meds to say it out right i am very high at the moment
[01:30] <Tokenbad> sureshot, you went to #ubuntu-xgl?
[01:30] <bwlang> sureshot: if you're high then your dosage is too high... be careful - getting off of those is a bitch.
[01:30] <Meta[CNTDWN] > bye all
[01:30] <sureshot> ok thanks did not know that exsitied
[01:30] <sktfeelsdapper> so yah wine
[01:30] <rcmiv> bwlang, though I am comfortable lotsa stuff, rewriting the partition table manually just ain't gonna happen
[01:30] <DJ_Danni> Is there anny whay to start MySQL diffrend?
[01:30] <sktfeelsdapper> is there a wine room?
[01:30] <THX-1138> #winehq
[01:30] <bwlang> sureshot: sorry - i know you wern't asking - but i have a friend who had major problems coming off of percoset etc...
[01:31] <dyn-afk> don't you mean a wine cellar ? :P
[01:31] <sktfeelsdapper> hahha
[01:31] <sureshot> i know bwlang i take 10mg of perc every 4 hours but i rather go through withdraw than have the pain
[01:31] <sktfeelsdapper> i went to wine and the topic was funny
[01:31] <mipstien> after reinstalling nvidia-glx my direct rendering turns off and i can not turn it back on. but before i reinstall it there is an error on bootup about permissions with /lib/modules/2.6.15-27-k7/volatile what if any, are the option's?
[01:31] <THX-1138> #cedega also - please don't mention cedega in winhq - they are kinda touchy there.
[01:32] <sktfeelsdapper> How about here?
[01:32] <sktfeelsdapper> haha
[01:32] <sureshot> i understand bwlang i apreciate the comment i am stuck on the couch and that is ware i have been all summer this is a bummer
[01:32] <bwlang> sureshot: maybe you can talk to your doc about getting a finer grained dose (ie  do 5x2mg  so you can dial it in just right to kill the pain but not get you high)
[01:32] <DJ_Danni> Can somone help me?
[01:32] <sureshot> i will do that i hate being high i am not one to do that hate to drink beer for that reason
[01:32] <bwlang> sureshot: i hope your surgey is successful!
[01:33] <DJ_Danni> in PM
[01:33] <sureshot> but wblang any comment showing you care is alway appreciated and needed ok
[01:33] <sureshot> thanks alot
[01:33] <sktfeelsdapper> wine is quiet. dang man
[01:34] <DJ_Danni> Can somone help me with MySQL or noat? PM me PLEAS.
[01:34] <sureshot> i cant drink wine man i am diabetic as well
[01:34] <ladydoor> DJ_Danni: it's best to ask for help in the channel so that if someone messes up others can correct it.
[01:34] <noaxark> Hey. I'm installing Xubuntu on a 6GiB hdd. How much space should I allocate for the / partition?
[01:34] <sktfeelsdapper> Hahaha
[01:34] <mipstien> after reinstalling nvidia-glx my direct rendering turns off and i can not turn it back on. but before i reinstall it there is an error on bootup about permissions with /lib/modules/2.6.15-27-k7/volatile what if any, are the option's?
[01:34] <DJ_Danni> ok
[01:34] <ladydoor> DJ_Danni: and also, just ask your specific question to the channel to see if anyone can help or not
[01:34] <bwlang> DJ_Danni: sorry - i just don't have the time right now...  you'll want to have a look in /usr/share/doc/mysql
[01:35] <crimsun> being diabetic doesn't preclude one from drinking wine </offtopic>
[01:35] <robbbb> anyone run enlightened gnome?
[01:35] <sktfeelsdapper> haha
[01:35] <sktfeelsdapper> You guys are great.
[01:35] <sureshot> bwlang i am going over to the ubuntu-xgl channel so you have have a good day
[01:35] <DJ_Danni> Always when i try to logg in to phpmyadmin as root i get #2002 - The server is not responding (or the local MySQL server's socket is not correctly configured)
[01:35] <wept> i accidentally downloaded the amd64 image and installed it on a pentium (which worked), but now it will only give me the linux-images for amd64...is there some apt setting i need to change?
[01:36] <ladydoor> wept: you can install the proper kernel
[01:36] <sureshot> i know it iwas off topic and being as diabetic as i am a glass of wine would shoot my surgar level into the 300 i will now be quite
[01:36] <dutch> have checked the forums...can't print to an HP722C....anyone have any ideals  ?
[01:36] <ladydoor> wept: (and then you can uninstall the *improper* kernel if you want)
[01:36] <JoseStefan> Hello World!
[01:36] <wept> ladydoor: the problem is, apt-cache search only displays the amd64 versions
[01:37] <feross> noaxark: around 4GB should be fine
[01:37] <noaxark> ah. thanks.
[01:37] <ladydoor> wept: what repositories do you have enabled? would you paste your /etc/apt/sources.list file to http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[01:37] <rubso> hey guys, i want to enable WMV and QuickTime Plugins in Firefox, please?
[01:37] <sktfeelsdapper> How much hd does ubunto use btw?
[01:37] <wept> just like on my other pentium systems it doesnt show the amd64 kernels
[01:37] <DJ_Danni> Can somone help me?
[01:37] <sktfeelsdapper> I have 2 10gb hd's and with just ubuntu installed it now says 6.? is left.
[01:37] <ladydoor> !someone
[01:37] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[01:37] <erUSUL> wept: EMT64 (intel 64 bits) is compatible with amd64 so you are fine with an amd64 kernel
[01:37] <robbbb> what window manager does everyone use?
[01:37] <SpacePuppy> lol
[01:38] <gnomefreak> rubso: install w32codecs
[01:38] <ladydoor> robbbb: #ubuntu-offtopic
[01:38] <gnomefreak> !w32codecs > rubso
[01:38] <mipstien> after reinstalling nvidia-glx my direct rendering turns off and i can not turn it back on. but before i reinstall it there is an error on bootup about permissions with /lib/modules/2.6.15-27-k7/volatile what if any, are the option's?
[01:38] <slavik> erUSUL: EMT64 != IA64, right?
[01:38] <robbbb> why is that off topic?
[01:38] <wept> erUSUL: it seems that way but id still like to find out how i can change it...
[01:38] <rubso> gnomefreak: they're already installed, i want it to be played under Firefox.
[01:38] <gnomefreak> robbbb: its not a support question
[01:38] <sktfeelsdapper> Well the only answers I ever needed were the whole sound issue. Haha
[01:38] <printk> philc: ah that might be it.. sorry for late reply
[01:38] <robbbb> i asked my support question, but nobody answered, or knew the answer
[01:38] <erUSUL> slavik: right
[01:39] <feross> sktfeelsdapper: uhhmm I'm only using 3GB.
[01:39] <gnomefreak> rubso: try mplayer if totem isnt playing them
[01:39] <printk> philc: er i meant phire, sorry
[01:39] <robbbb> i was after some more info to sort it myself
[01:39] <erUSUL> wept: what you would like to change?
[01:39] <rubso> gnomefreak: k thanks.
[01:39] <sktfeelsdapper> So it only uses 3?
[01:39] <gnomefreak> robbbb: what was your question
[01:39] <slavik> robbbb: metacity (gnome default)
[01:39] <sktfeelsdapper> Another thing is I have 2 hd's.
[01:39] <sktfeelsdapper> And my other one is still ntfs
[01:39] <wept> erusul: it seems like because its running an amd64 kernel, apt-cache search and apt-get are only giving me amd64 kernels to install
[01:39] <robbbb> i need to get rid of the background from gnome as the enlightenment background is behind it
[01:39] <sureshot> by the way there is no one chatting on ubuntu-xgl i will try other soarces
[01:39] <sktfeelsdapper> And I really need that other hd for space, because I download alot of uh.....things.
[01:39] <feross> sktfeelsdapper: it's less than 3GB if you don't count all the software I've installed
[01:39] <DJ_Danni> There is no help here to get
[01:40] <gnomefreak> robbbb: are you using gnome with the E WM?
[01:40] <sktfeelsdapper> I should probably get rid of some of these extras...i'm scared to but.
[01:40] <robbbb> gnomefreak: yeah
[01:40] <ladydoor> DJ_Danni:  not if you don't bother to ask your question.
[01:40] <sktfeelsdapper> Last time I got rid of anything firefox went crazy.
[01:40] <SpacePuppy> rofl.
[01:40] <erUSUL> wept: there is no em64t specific kernel you have to use amd64 it is the closest you will get unless you build your own kernel
[01:40] <sktfeelsdapper> And I couldn't get into my own "home"
[01:40] <slavik> sktfeelsdapper: as long as ubuntu-desktop stays there ...
[01:41] <gnomefreak> robbbb: thats normal.
[01:41] <sktfeelsdapper> Well it was some dependency or something.
[01:41] <robbbb> parts of gnome are annoying me and need to get rid of them
[01:41] <wept> erusul: im using just a regular pentium 4 though, not 64 bit at all
[01:41] <robbbb> i.e. it seems to be controlling the mouse
[01:41] <sktfeelsdapper> I can't remember, I'm going to have to start taking notes of what I do.
[01:41] <gnomefreak> robbbb: your seeing parts of the Desktop Environment not the background
[01:41] <feross> sktfeelsdapper: I only have two partitions, / and /home for junk .. MP3's jpgs downloaded softwar etc
[01:41] <gnomefreak> robbbb: than log into E not gnome
[01:41] <robbbb> and the background is overwritten
[01:41] <mipstien> after reinstalling nvidia-glx my direct rendering turns off and i can not turn it back on. but before i reinstall it there is an error on bootup about permissions with /lib/modules/2.6.15-27-k7/volatile what if any, are the option's?
[01:41] <wept> ladydoor: my sources.list: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25261/
[01:41] <robbbb> yeah but i need the nice GTK effects i've set up in gnome
[01:42] <sktfeelsdapper> That's what I need, I'd love to move all my junk onto the other hd.
[01:42] <ladydoor> robbbb: check this out:  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=54476
[01:42] <sktfeelsdapper> So I have more room for stuff on here.
[01:42] <sktfeelsdapper> !hd
[01:42] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about hd - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:42] <robbbb> yeah i've read that
[01:42] <sktfeelsdapper> !ntfs
[01:42] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse
[01:42] <ladydoor> robbbb: it's a little old, but it still updates, so you might check the first few posts and the last few
[01:42] <ladydoor> robbbb: oh...
[01:42] <dyn-afk> !fuse
[01:42] <ubotu> Though it's still very unsafe, you can read about Ubuntu NTFS writing here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lkraider/NtfsFuse
[01:42] <sureshot> is there any other channels except ubuntu-xgl that talk about xgl and compiz
[01:42] <dyn-afk> !boom
[01:42] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about boom - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:42] <dyn-afk> :P
[01:42] <sktfeelsdapper> Hmm, see I tried that whole "mount" thing and I couldn't read my other drive.
[01:43] <POVaddct> !lxdoom
[01:43] <sktfeelsdapper> If I could just toss my extras on the other hd I would be able happy.
[01:43] <ubotu> lxdoom: Unix port of boom, an enhanced version of DOOM. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.4.4-9.2 (dapper), package size 286 kB, installed size 480 kB
[01:43] <robbbb> the problem with all these howtos is that they dont really tell you the technical stuf behind how to acomplish these things
[01:43] <sktfeelsdapper> !gaim
[01:43] <ubotu> Instant Messenger Clients: Gaim (GNOME, http://help.ubuntu.com/community/GaimHowto), Kopete (KDE), both supporting MSN, Jabber, AIM, Gadu-Gadu, Novell Groupwise, ICQ and IRC.
[01:43] <sktfeelsdapper> I don't like gaim.
[01:43] <dyn-afk> or why on earth you need to do something is also something that mostly isn't in those howto's robbbb
[01:43] <gnomefreak> sktfeelsdapper: are you done playing/fishing with the bot?
[01:43] <sktfeelsdapper> Sorry.
[01:44] <dyn-afk> sktfeelsdapper then try something else :P
[01:44] <sktfeelsdapper> I am.
[01:44] <dyn-afk> what IM do you need?
[01:44] <dyn-afk> msn? aim? icq? jabber?
[01:44] <sktfeelsdapper> Well I mostly talk on IRC now.
[01:44] <sktfeelsdapper> Aim is a thing of the past.
[01:44] <feross> sktfeelsdapper: I think the best way to set it up if you're dual-booting like I am is.. 1 partition Windows, 1 swap, 1 ubuntu install, 1 storage partition EXT3 ... Install the Windows program to read EXT3 partitions and that way you have one place to store files and read them from ubuntu and windows.
[01:44] <robbbb> because i want the best
[01:44] <dyn-afk> then stick to something like xchat or bitchx or irssi
[01:44] <ladydoor> sktfeelsdapper: then you might like irssi, using bitlbee for any instant messaging
[01:44] <sureshot> is there any other channels except ubuntu-xgl that talk about xgl and compiz
[01:45] <sktfeelsdapper> Well I don't have windows actually ON the other hd.
[01:45] <gnomefreak> sureshot: no
[01:45] <sktfeelsdapper> It's just ntfs.
[01:45] <sktfeelsdapper> I just have ubuntu now.
[01:45] <sureshot> thanks for the answer gnomefreak nice nick by the way
[01:45] <gnomefreak> yw
[01:45] <slavik> sktfeelsdapper: why don't you like gaim?
[01:45] <ladydoor> !best > robbbb
[01:45] <slavik> !best
[01:45] <ubotu> Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose among a number of different applications, depending on your preferences, the features you require, and other factors.
[01:45] <robbbb> what the hell is that supposed to mean?
[01:46] <sktfeelsdapper> Well I didn't like it for Windows because I could never figure out how to change the font, and when I did type messages it was real small.
[01:46] <sktfeelsdapper> Plus the buddy list was real confusing.
[01:46] <rcmiv> very confusing, this
[01:46] <sktfeelsdapper> I'd have the font set at like 34 point
[01:46] <ladydoor> robbbb: it means that linux isn't like windows--people write a lot of different programs that cater to different users' preferences
[01:46] <mipstien> after reinstalling nvidia-glx my direct rendering turns off and i can not turn it back on. but before i reinstall it there is an error on bootup about permissions with /lib/modules/2.6.15-27-k7/volatile what if any, are the option's?
[01:46] <sktfeelsdapper> And people could hardly read it, and it was the same the other way.
[01:46] <rcmiv> gparted just simply refuses to see my second sata hd
[01:46] <MakuraRyu> can I setup a raid system without having to reinstall ubuntu? thanks in advance
[01:46] <robbbb> yeah i know what i want, but cant seem to do it or find how to do it
[01:47] <ladydoor> robbbb: so there's not a ``best'' program--there're a lot of good ones, and which one's right for you depends on your preferences.
[01:47] <sktfeelsdapper> Well, I guess I'll just go forum searching for the hd questions I have.
[01:47] <robbbb> i want the mouse to jump to the focus - which doesn't seem to work with gnome
[01:47] <sktfeelsdapper> I did figure out that if I use xmms with esd, and firefox with aoss I can change the volume on both seperately and have almost no problems.
[01:47] <chrisjw> hmm im having trouble installing msttcorefonts
[01:48] <chrisjw> E: Package msttcorefonts has no installation candidate
[01:48] <ladydoor> robbbb: http://www.nongnu.org/ratpoison . you can set up rat-warping to do that.
[01:48] <feross> MakuraRyu: I'm sure you can. Not exactly sure how but all you'll be doing is mirroring your current installation somewhere else which shouldn't require a whole re-installation.
[01:48] <gnomefreak> chrisjw: enable multiverse repo
[01:48] <robbbb> isn't that a different WM?
[01:48] <chrisjw> i did :(
[01:48] <gnomefreak> yes
[01:48] <ladydoor> robbbb: yeah...you were just saying it didn't work with gnome. *shrug*
[01:48] <chrisjw> then i did sudo apt-get update
[01:49] <sktfeelsdapper> !dxmixer
[01:49] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dxmixer - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:49] <MakuraRyu> thanks for the info!
[01:49] <weex> when a web browser does a dns lookup it should do A? first right? For some reason on my system it does AAAA?, then tries to add .domain a couple of times, then finally does the A? that's successful
[01:49] <gnomefreak> chrisjw: its in multiverse make sure you didnt enable backports multiverse
[01:49] <robbbb> enlighenment does it, but not when using with gnome
[01:49] <ladydoor> robbbb: ahhh
[01:49] <chrisjw> oh
[01:49] <chrisjw> i think i did
[01:49] <gnomefreak> !repo > chrisjw
[01:49] <weex> this happens with both epiphany and firefox so i'm wondering where this dns lookup order is configured
[01:49] <we2by> guys, how do I set the panel to expand by only 95% of the screen length?
[01:50] <we2by> !panel
[01:50] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about panel - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:50] <sktfeelsdapper> dxmixer isn't off topic is it?
[01:50] <sktfeelsdapper> :d
[01:50] <feross> we2by: rightclick> properties
[01:51] <we2by> Fergy, it doesn't have the option to expand by 95%
[01:51] <feross> weex: how are you seeing that? If I type in google.com into my browser it doesn't show what it's looking up :)
[01:51] <robbbb> also. does anybody know how to change the font in gnome-panel ?
[01:52] <sktfeelsdapper> is dxmixer neccesary though?
[01:52] <weex> feross: i'm using tcpdump -n to see it
[01:52] <sktfeelsdapper> I mean I have a via onboard sound thingy.
[01:52] <weex> i'm thinking it has to do with my resolv.conf having search localdomain in it
[01:52] <sktfeelsdapper> I am under the impression that with via you can't do much.
[01:52] <crimsun> sktfeelsdapper: did you mean 'dmix' instead?
[01:53] <plus_M> How do I change my default sound device in Xubuntu?
[01:53] <we2by> http://img165.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshotrr3.png
[01:53] <we2by> running beryld
[01:53] <feross> we2by: ohh right ... well you can set it by pixels if you uncheck expand ... hmm
[01:53] <sktfeelsdapper> yah that's it.
[01:53] <weex> holy moly that seemed to fix it, i wonder how 'search localdomain' got in there
[01:53] <chrisjw> heh lame question but
[01:53] <chrisjw> where is the fonts directory?
[01:53] <crimsun> sktfeelsdapper: what precisely do you need with dmix? It's enabled by default for the snd-via82xx driver.
[01:54] <rubso> BREAKING NEWS
[01:54] <sktfeelsdapper> i don't know, i thought maybe that's what i needed to get 2 things to play sound at once.
[01:54] <rubso> INTERNET IS OVER
[01:54] <sktfeelsdapper> i figured out the whole sound thing, even though it's kinda backwards.
[01:55] <barata> I need to convert ogg to mp3, what's the best tool in linux?
[01:55] <barata> wav it first?
[01:55] <crimsun> sktfeelsdapper: you're already using it to play two things simultaneously if you haven't changed anything from the default (the exceptions being oss-only apps like adobe flash)
[01:55] <sktfeelsdapper> Hey being able to watch youtube and listen to music is a ok with me.
[01:55] <we2by> !flash
[01:55] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[01:55] <sktfeelsdapper> flash wouldn't work for me, if i was playing music.
[01:55] <rubso> =P sorry gnomefreak
[01:55] <crimsun> sktfeelsdapper: you'd have to use esd or aoss
[01:56] <sktfeelsdapper> i have firefox set to aoss
[01:56] <sktfeelsdapper> and xmms set to esd
[01:56] <crimsun> set xmms to alsa
[01:56] <weex> sktfeelsdapper: i have the same problem somtimes
[01:56] <crimsun> use the 'default' device, not a hw:X,Y one
[01:56] <sktfeelsdapper> if i set it to alsa weird things happen.
[01:56] <ladydoor> !best > barata
[01:56] <admin_> what program is there for Linux that is like HyperTerm in windoze
[01:56] <crimsun> sktfeelsdapper: what sort of weird?
[01:56] <barata> !best
[01:56] <ubotu> Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose among a number of different applications, depending on your preferences, the features you require, and other factors.
[01:56] <sktfeelsdapper> like if i turn down the volume on xmms it turns down the volume on youtube
[01:57] <ladydoor> barata: but you can use oggdec to make them wavs and then use lame to turn them into mp3s
[01:57] <sktfeelsdapper> at the same time, so essentially i'm turning it down for both.
[01:57] <admin_> what program is there for Linux that is like HyperTerm in windoze
[01:57] <ladydoor> barata: uhhh...why not just read the im the bot sent you?
[01:57] <barata> ladydoor, do you use ogg2mp3?
[01:57] <crimsun> sktfeelsdapper: again, intentional unless you use softvol or hack the mixer control
[01:57] <POVaddct> admin_: minicom
[01:57] <barata> is that okey? I dont care about quality actually, because it's a lecture
[01:58] <ladydoor> barata: never heard of it. i use mp32ogg, though
[01:58] <we2by> flash has sound here
[01:58] <sktfeelsdapper> !softvol
[01:58] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about softvol - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:58] <gnomefreak> barata: yes its fine
[01:58] <we2by> works also with software mixing
[01:58] <goose> i just had a weird problem that forced me to reboot. I couldn't open any new programs. the window border would display but contents were missing. Restarting X didn't solve it. i had to reboot. anyone else experience anything similar?
[01:58] <plus_M> How do I change my default sound device from the onboard sound to a soundcard?
[01:58] <barata> ladydoor it's just a reverse of mp32ogg
[01:58] <feross> weex: hmm yeah, are you using DHCP or Static?
[01:58] <barata> thanks gnomefreak
[01:58] <gnomefreak> ladydoor: your doing the oppisite with that ;)
[01:58] <sktfeelsdapper> Well, for now I guess it works better than it did.
[01:58] <barata> I'll apt-get it
[01:58] <crimsun> plus_M: System> Preferences> Sound> Set default card
[01:58] <ladydoor> barata: and it's not in the archives. you can install it from source, i guess
[01:58] <ladydoor> gnomefreak: right. i was wondering if that other even existed
[01:58] <barata> let's try
[01:58] <robbbb> just out of interest - how old are you lot?
[01:58] <gnomefreak> ladydoor: his is in multiverse iirc
[01:58] <sktfeelsdapper> lot?
[01:58] <goose> 20 something
[01:59] <barata> yes ladydoor, can't find it
[01:59] <ladydoor> !ogg2mp3
[01:59] <brian98> robbbb,  about 13000 combined
[01:59] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ogg2mp3 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:59] <sktfeelsdapper> I'm 25.
[01:59] <weex> feross: dhcp but i fixed it already by taking out that 'search localdomain' line in resolv.conf
[01:59] <gnomefreak> hmmmmmm
[01:59] <sktfeelsdapper> My first experience with linux.
[01:59] <barata> let me try alien, because there is the rpm
[01:59] <gnomefreak> brb i saw something thought it was that
[01:59] <gnomefreak> barata: wait
[01:59] <robbbb> a few pure geek answers there
[01:59] <weex> i don't use dns for my lan machines here so i'm not worried
[01:59] <feross> weex: right but if you're on dhcp it might put it back
[01:59] <ladydoor> barata: it's better to install from source rather than use alien. and it's easier to use oggdec and then use lame.
[01:59] <sktfeelsdapper> I think I'll leave my sound as is for now, the way I have it set up.
[01:59] <brian98> barata: I'm into audio stuff, what was your question again?
[01:59] <weex> oic
[01:59] <sktfeelsdapper> It may be backwords but it works!
[02:00] <goose> i just had a weird problem that forced me to reboot. I couldn't open any new programs. the window border would display but contents were missing. Restarting X didn't solve it. i had to reboot. anyone else experience anything similar? <--?
[02:00] <weex> maybe i'd better look at my router than
[02:00] <feross> yah
[02:00] <goose> feross?
 barata: I'm into audio stuff, what was your question again? --> I need to ogg2mp3
[02:00] <brian98> ok
[02:01] <barata> damned! there is no more ogg2mp3 even in sourceforge!?
[02:01] <brian98> barata: your gonna need lame
[02:01] <brian98> barata: ogg123
[02:01] <brian98> barata: ogginfo
[02:01] <chrisjw> what is the fonts dir please?
[02:01] <barata> I have lame
[02:01] <brian98> barata: acutally one sec...
[02:02] <barata> can lame do ogg2mp3?
[02:02] <brian98> barata: with a script
[02:02] <feross> goose: ahh I was talking to weex .. but never saw the issue you described. did it start happening after a specific program you used?
[02:02] <brian98> barata: http://www.igso.net/nkb/Converting_ogg_to_mp3_in_Linux
[02:02] <barata> what script brian?
[02:02] <chrisjw> surely someone knows here please
[02:02] <chrisjw> whats the fonts directory for ubuntu
[02:02] <tonyyarusso> Is there a way to make wireless connections detected immediately on boot (i.e. not require starting Gnome first) when they're managed by NetworkManager?
[02:03] <jrib> ubotu: tell chrisjw about fonts
[02:03] <chrisjw> err
[02:03] <chrisjw> can't you just tell me the dir
[02:03] <brian98> chrisjw, use the locate command !
[02:03] <chrisjw> i don't know the locate command can you not just tell me?
[02:03] <jrib> chrisjw: ~/.fonts, but that page has more info for you...
[02:03] <brian98> locate fonts
[02:03] <barata> let me try that perl script
[02:03] <barata> thanks brian98
[02:03] <weex> i don't see localdomain in my router anywhere... feross is there a way to stop that line from appearing again?
[02:04] <brian98> barata, no worries, hope it works, let me know if you need anything else!
[02:04] <picochu> brian98, there's the man command go read up on it
[02:04] <brian98> picochu, scusee?
[02:04] <goose> feross no idea.. i had google earth open at the time
[02:05] <picochu> brian98, oops sorry it should be chrisjw :P
[02:05] <chrisjw> hmm
[02:05] <picochu> my bad
[02:05] <feross> weex: depending on what you use for setting up your network. You could have something in there that says DHCP for IP but then you have it static 'search localdomain' for DNS ...
[02:05] <chrisjw> i just want to know where to put my tahoma.ttf file
[02:05] <barata> brian98, how to use it? what's the switch?
[02:06] <picochu> chrisjw,  learn to use man and other useful program like fgrep
[02:06] <chrisjw> i know grep
[02:06] <picochu> chrisjw,  i mean find
[02:06] <chrisjw> but thanks that's very helpful;
[02:06] <gandalfcome> I have ubuntu server edition on my server, how can I configure nfs graphically. Does webmin still exist? thanks in advance
[02:07] <weex> well it's a linksys voip router and there's no host or domain name set in it anywhere even in its dhcp to the cable modem
[02:07] <picochu> chrisjw, use find to search for files
[02:07] <jrib> chrisjw: I told you...
[02:07] <chrisjw> well i know that now
[02:07] <chrisjw> but
[02:07] <brian98> chrisjw, if you want to find a file called brian from the root type sudo find / -name brian
[02:07] <feross> chrisjw: uhhm, haven't messed with fonts since I installed ubuntu but there's a howto in the wiki if I remember correctly
[02:07] <chrisjw> where do i put tahoma?
[02:07] <chrisjw> i know that feross ty
[02:07] <brian98> barata, whats the options?
[02:07] <chrisjw> im after tahoma
[02:07] <chrisjw> :(
[02:08] <jrib> chrisjw: ~/.fonts
[02:08] <feross> chrisjw: hold a sec I'll see if I can find that wiki
[02:08] <chrisjw> ty
[02:08] <brian98> chrisjw,  that means /home/yourusername/.fonts
[02:08] <chrisjw> jrib, i looked there, it showed the fonts
[02:08] <chrisjw> oh let me see
[02:08] <chrisjw> ty
[02:09] <chrisjw> tahomabd.ttf  tahoma.ttf
[02:09] <chrisjw> lol wtf
[02:09] <chrisjw> those fonts are on my desktop
[02:09] <barata> brian98, why that thing wants ide3
[02:09] <brian98> Its old and needs to be changed I would say..
[02:09] <chrisjw> but i can't use them using my fonts panel
[02:09] <dave> are there ANY webcam chat clients at all for linux? gaim-vv doesnt seem to work under ubuntu other than that i cant raelly find any that work
[02:09] <brian98> barata, I',m looking at the script now..
[02:10] <jrib> chrisjw: did you copy them into ~/.fonts?
[02:10] <chrisjw> yes :s
[02:10] <juztin> can anyone suggest some linux calendar software to keep track of bills, birthdays, etc?
[02:10] <feross> chrisjw: hmm look at this... http://www.ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-82318.html it should still apply.
[02:10] <jrib> chrisjw: hmm, you may have to restart the program.  Or even regenerate the font cache with 'fc-cache'
[02:11] <chrisjw> ok
[02:11] <chrisjw> ahh
[02:11] <chrisjw> nvm im sorry
[02:11] <chrisjw> tahoma is there now
[02:11] <chrisjw> ty
[02:11] <feross> oh cool
[02:11] <chrisjw> but the problem i have now is that its screwed up for some reason
[02:11] <chrisjw> in terminal, some of the glyphs are written on top of each other
[02:12] <brian98> barata, ok, lame will do it without the script, just read up @ http://lame.sourceforge.net/links.php
[02:12] <lostinc> Hi I have Apache2 installed on my laptop that I wish to use for mobile web development. What permissions do I need to apply to the /var/www/ folder in order to give myself read and write permissions?
[02:12] <g333k_laptop> hi, hw do I know the version of the pkgs avaible for edgy?
[02:12] <barata> thanks brian98
[02:12] <brian98> g333k_laptop, #ubuntu+1
[02:12] <barata> brian98, are you a musician?
[02:12] <shizu>       /discon
[02:13] <feross> dave: http://www.voip-info.org/wiki/view/Ekiga
[02:13] <brian98> barata, streaming radio
[02:13] <dave> yeah i got ekiga
[02:13] <we2by> guys, what software to use with a webcam?
[02:13] <brian98> barata, so I have had my head wrecked with codecs ;)
[02:13] <dave> was hoping for something more like icuii
[02:13] <chrisjw> hmm brb
[02:13] <dave> with a chat room interface
[02:14] <Geoffrey3> um, I need help recovering my Ubuntu install that appears to have gone "poof"
[02:14] <barata> i c ... can you introduce me to Howard Stein, brian98? :)
[02:15] <we2by> guys, what software to use with a webcam?
[02:15] <Geoffrey3> I'm getting a number of "No such file or directory" errors when trying to mount drives and directories, starting with sda5
[02:15] <brian98> barata, no worries!
[02:15] <brian98> http://www.howardstein.com/
[02:15] <brian98> lol
[02:15] <plus_M> How do I change the default sound device from onboard sound to a soundcard?
[02:16] <crimsun> plus_M: System> Preferences> Sound> Set default card   (in Dapper)
[02:16] <gandalfcome> how do I mount nfs share with gnome
[02:16] <feross> we2by: umm ekiga is for video-conferencing.
[02:16] <plus_M> Ok I am using Xubuntu
[02:16] <crimsun> plus_M: asoundconf list
[02:16] <plus_M> Ok I see my two sound devices
[02:16] <crimsun> plus_M: then tell me the output
[02:16] <dave> looking for something like camfrog,icuii,cuseemee
[02:17] <plus_M> OK
[02:17] <dave> dont think it exists though
[02:17] <dave> or if anyone has any idea why gaim-vv doesnt work with ubuntu ?
[02:17] <plus_M> CK8S and CA0106
[02:17] <plus_M> CA0106 is my soundcard that I want to use
[02:18] <crimsun> plus_M: asoundconf set-default-card CA0106
[02:18] <crimsun> plus_M: then restart all alsa apps
[02:18] <plus_M> OK thanks
[02:18] <g333k_laptop>  how can I install xfce4 avaiable for edgy in dapper?
[02:18] <crimsun> g333k_laptop: unless you enjoy weeping and gnashing of teeth, you wouldn't.
[02:19] <g333k_laptop> crimsun, there are fixes... that I must patch with the newest version
[02:20] <crimsun> g333k_laptop: which ones from svn?
[02:20] <Geoffrey2> I just turned on my computer, and Ubuntu is now crashing during startup, I'm getting "No such file or directory" errors when trying to mount /dev/sda5 on /root, /root/dev on /dev/.static/dev, /sys on /root/sys. and /proc on /root/proc
[02:20] <Naked_Snake> Sweet
[02:20] <Naked_Snake> I just remembered my Quake III Gold CDs are a PC/Mac/Linux hybrid
[02:20] <g333k_laptop> I have a ne clean install of dapper, can I do a dist upgrade?
[02:20] <Geoffrey2> it then says it can't access tty, job control turned off
[02:21] <dave> anyone using edgy beta?
[02:21] <g333k_laptop> dave, I want to
[02:21] <dave> yeah
[02:21] <dave> me too
[02:21] <dave> but im scared
[02:21] <g333k_laptop> why?
[02:21] <dave> the word beta
[02:21] <dave> frightens me
[02:22] <g333k_laptop> I'll take the risks
[02:23] <feross> g333k_laptop: http://digg.com/linux_unix/Ubuntu_Howto_upgrade_from_6_06_dapper_to_6_10_Edgy
[02:23] <dave> you first
[02:23] <sureshot> does xgl slow down your computer
[02:23] <dave> then tell me how it goes
[02:23] <chrisjw> ok tahoma is working cool
[02:23] <chrisjw> thankyou
[02:23] <thedash> how can I look up exactly what version of a driver I have?
[02:23] <chrisjw> well tahoma isn't showing up in amsn but i can live without it!
[02:23] <Marsmensch> hi, a short question, i got the benq mobile newsletter, which says there's a software for linux (e.g. ubuntu 5.10) now. i found details on the website. anyone has a idea, how long it takes, until the software is installabl by apt? any idea how long it could take?
[02:24] <gandalfcome> In dapper I want to connect to a nfs share using the connect to server-tool. are there other graphical tools to connect to an nfs server
[02:24] <gandalfcome> ?
[02:25] <feross> gandalfcome: hmm, did you look through synaptic?
[02:25] <Marsmensch> maybe anyone here can add the package to the reporsortories??
[02:25] <Marsmensch> grrrr
[02:25] <housetier> how do I make apt NOT configure python2.4 packages (it fails because of byte-compilation errors) when I actually want to install and configure beep-media-player?
[02:25] <gandalfcome> doing it right now
[02:26] <dave> apt-get install -f
[02:26] <feross> Marsmensch: what program?
[02:27] <plus_M> crimsun I did what you said but it doesn't appear to have worked
[02:27] <sureshot> does xgl slow down your computer
[02:27] <crimsun> plus_M: pastebin your ~/.asoundrc*
[02:27] <gandalfcome> @feross: didnt find anything
[02:27] <plus_M> Ok
[02:28] <Geoffrey2> is there any chance the live CD could fix my Ubuntu problem?
[02:28] <gandalfcome> do you know the connect to server tool? but it only gives me access to smb ftp, and so on
[02:28] <Marsmensch> feross: The Mobile Phone Manager for Linux (XMPM) a software for all Benq, Siemensmobilephones
[02:28] <plus_M> crimsun, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25263/
[02:29] <crimsun> plus_M: I need /home/eric/.asoundrc.asoundconf, too
[02:29] <sktfeelsdapper> Sound problems!
[02:29] <Marsmensch> feross: you can read a short info about it here under pc software & drivers http://www.benq-siemens.com/cds/frontdoor/0,2241,hq_en_0_130289_0_xcp%253A140777_xcs%253A130989,00.html
[02:29] <sktfeelsdapper> Hehe
[02:29] <feross> gandalfcome: hmm yeah I only see something for kde
[02:30] <housetier> I get this far: http://paste.husk.org/6844 and don't know how to proceed from there except to get the .deb files and use dpkg (but I doubt that will help)
[02:30] <Naked_Snake> Smoke tree
[02:31] <phargle> tree?
[02:31] <gandalfcome> perhaps i can use that
[02:31] <feross> Marsmensch: not sure but will System>Admin>share folder do it .. mine only shows smb but that could be because I don't have nfs installed.
[02:31] <sureshot> ware can i find the system requirement for xgl i have a 2gh proccessor 1gb mem 128video mem ati mobility x600se i systems seems to slow down when running xgl
[02:31] <Geoffrey2> could someone confirm they are reading me...just so I know I'm actually posting in the channel
[02:32] <Marsmensch> Geoffrey2: k
[02:32] <Dr_willis> Geoffrey2,  Moo!
[02:32] <feross> gandalfcome: not sure but will System>Admin>share folder do it .. mine only shows smb but that could be because I don't have nfs installed.
[02:33] <gandalfcome> yes sure I can share folders but not connect to a share
[02:33] <feross> Geoffrey2: well, is it a new install? maybe you need to reinstall. Could be your grub isn't setup right.. shrug
[02:33] <gandalfcome> i mean I try it on the console but it seems my nfs server isnt configured correctly
[02:33] <gandalfcome> I presume You don't know how to configure nfs server ;-)
[02:34] <Geoffrey2> no, it was working fine last night when I shut it down, today I turn it on..can't boot
[02:34] <feross> gandalfcome: nope... no dapper wiki on nfs?
[02:35] <crimsun> plus_M: ?
[02:35] <sureshot> ware can i find the system requirement for xgl i have a 2gh proccessor 1gb mem 128video mem ati mobility x600se i systems seems to slow down when running xgl
[02:35] <gandalfcome> i googled for it but couldnt find
[02:35] <tonyyarusso> What features should I be looking for in a wireless router?
[02:36] <david__> hola
[02:36] <gandalfcome> thanks feross, I think I will use the console
[02:37] <feross> gandalfcome: hmm well might want to give this a look ... http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_dapper#How_to_share_folders_the_easy_way
[02:37] <feross> just in case
[02:37] <Geoffrey2> Grub comes up, gives me a menu, I pick the latest and greatest version, I might try an older kernal just to see if that changes anything, anyway, Kernel uncompresses, Ubuntu progress screen comes up, gets to Mounting root file system, poof.....
[02:39] <feross> tonyyarusso: 802.11g and WPA ... usually all have some wireless features. I can tell you what NOT to get  D-Link ... Cheap piece of ...
[02:39] <feross> I meant firewall features .. doh
[02:39] <tonyyarusso> feross: Okay, thanks.
[02:40] <viator> yep dlink stinks
[02:40] <sureshot> netgear is ok as well that is what i use it has a firewall 4 port wired hup as well and does 64bit and128 bit wep and wpa
[02:40] <sureshot> it was 40.00 at bestbuy
[02:41] <viator> get al older linksys wep54g
[02:41] <viator> whoops
[02:41] <feross> Geoffrey2: hmm, maybe the fstab is messed up.. yeah and try some other kernel. At least you would be able to get in and take a look.
[02:41] <viator> wrt
[02:41] <gandalfcome> thanks
[02:41] <viator> then install the ddwrt firmware
[02:42] <ubuntu> hello
[02:42] <feross> well, you don't HAVE to get the older ones. I think Linksys now has a more expensive model that you can install the ddwrt stuff to.
[02:42] <brian98> Feross: Zyxel are pretty good if you can get em
[02:42] <viator> feross yeah
[02:42] <sktfeelsdapper> how do i check to see if my cd burner is installed right?
[02:43] <viator> the wrt54g L
[02:43] <feross> hi ubuntu.
[02:43] <sktfeelsdapper> !burner
[02:43] <ubotu> CD/DVD Burning software: K3b (KDE), gnomebaker, serpentine, graveman Nautilus cd burner (Gnome), gtoaster, xcdroast, cdrecord (terminal-based). Burning .iso files: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BurningIsoHowto
[02:43] <viator> l for linux?
[02:43] <viator> i think
[02:43] <sktfeelsdapper> Wait, do you have to burn mp3's into an iso to get it off the disc?
[02:43] <feross> yeah, could be
[02:43] <sktfeelsdapper> oh wait, nevermind.
[02:43] <victorr> hello all, can someone please recommend a guide for installing ubuntu with all the nifty features?
[02:44] <sureshot> ware can i find the system requirement for xgl i have a 2gh proccessor 1gb mem 128video mem ati mobility x600se i systems seems to slow down when running xgl
[02:44] <mzddarya> has anyone had any trouble with PHP session's.  phpinfo() reports everything ok, but I can't get a session variable to stick.
[02:44] <Geoffrey2> feross, ok, it identifies root as (hd0,4), Filesystem as ext2fs, partition type 0x83, runs the kernel and initrd commands, savedefault, boot, message comes up "Uncompressing Linux... Ok, booting the kernel."
[02:44] <sktfeelsdapper> but yah how do i set up my cd burner properly?
[02:45] <plus_M> crimsun I may have disconnected a while ago
[02:45] <tonyyarusso> USB devices should be pretty much guaranteed to work in Linux regardless of what they are, right?
[02:45] <plus_M> Did you catch the pastebin?
[02:45] <crimsun> plus_M: I caught the first; did you paste what I asked for additionally?
[02:45] <viator> skt what do you mean set up proberly
[02:46] <chrisjw> hmm
[02:46] <sktfeelsdapper> Well I mean, do I have to mount the cd drive, or...whatever?
[02:46] <chrisjw> synaptec has an out of date version of xchat
[02:46] <feross> victorr: http://lunapark6.com/?p=1235 I think I messsed with this one but didn't do the xgl part because I don't have nvidia
[02:46] <viator> not usually
[02:46] <chrisjw> if I just download the new one
[02:46] <sktfeelsdapper> What do I have to do to put a cd in right now, and burn a cd until I can figure out how to get my other hd mounted right.
[02:46] <chrisjw> will it install it ok?
[02:46] <viator> it shoulld automatically
[02:46] <viator> in ubuntu
[02:46] <victorr> feross: thank you!
[02:46] <feross> ok
[02:46] <housetier> how do I tell apt&friends to skip over configuring certain packages so it can install and configure others?
[02:47] <sktfeelsdapper> apt and friends XD
[02:47] <sktfeelsdapper> !cdrom
[02:47] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about cdrom - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:47] <feross> sktfeelsdapper: just pop it in.. you'll be surprised
[02:47] <mzddarya> I can't get php sessions working on my ubuntu install, does anyone have any hints for troubleshooting it?
[02:47] <sktfeelsdapper> I've got a good cd burner in here much to my surprize.
[02:48] <sktfeelsdapper> With what else is wrong with this stupid thing.
[02:48] <housetier> I want to tell it "dont bother with python2.4{,-dev,-minimal} just download, isntall and configure the others" is that somehow possible?
[02:49] <sktfeelsdapper> Also Nicotine latest version, the trayicon thing doesn't work.
[02:49] <Geoffrey2> feross, any idea where I might start troubleshooting this thing...
[02:49] <sktfeelsdapper> I want it to be a part of my drop down list in Apps, but I don't know how to configure it right.
[02:49] <viator> apt should automatically install and configure thigs correctly based on dependencies etc
[02:49] <sktfeelsdapper> I know there's a way, I tried it before but I don't know how to do it now.
[02:49] <sktfeelsdapper> Well Nicotine+ is run from python I think.
[02:49] <viator> you can make it to a dry run to see if theres going to be a problem
[02:49] <sktfeelsdapper> The only way I can start it up is from the command line.
[02:50] <feross> Geoffrey2: hmm
[02:50] <viator> i guess you could do somthing with dpkg
[02:50] <gansinho> hey! How do I know if my 3D driver is working ( like if the 3D rendering is "on")
[02:51] <mzddarya> Will someone please help me with PHP config on Ubuntu?
[02:51] <BlueEagle> gansinho: You will definetly know if it's off when you try to run a 3d app.
[02:51] <BlueEagle> gansinho: If you haven't noticed that it's definetly off then it's probably on.
[02:51] <jrib> mzddarya: just say what you are having trouble with.  If someone knows how to help, they will try
[02:51] <gansinho> BlueEagle: say one...
[02:52] <feross> Geoffrey2: I think you can try booting in recover mode and check the / partition with ext fs check.. or check it by booting the ubuntu cd and runnig from there
[02:52] <sktfeelsdapper> So yah Nicotine running other than command line, anyone?
[02:52] <BlueEagle> gansinho: glxgears perhaps?
[02:52] <mzddarya> jrib: so I guess that means nobody knows, because I have asked twice...
[02:52] <BlueEagle> gansinho: or fglxgears if you're running ATi
[02:52] <w30> wow synaptic has a lot of ftp servers! which one is best for a novice to run?  vsftpd has a ubuntu icon in front of it, Does that make it better for Ubuntu boxes :=)
[02:52] <gansinho> its working
[02:52] <Geoffrey2> ok, I tried recover mode and that can't load either...I'll go grab the live CD and see what that can do for me
[02:52] <housetier> so you agree I should either wrestle with launchpad so I can report a bug or just go ahead and shoot myself in the foot
[02:53] <gansinho> thanks BlueEagle!
[02:53] <viator> i know nothing about nicotine
[02:53] <viator> whats the problem with it
[02:53] <sktfeelsdapper> Anybody know anything about Nicotine+
[02:53] <housetier> sktfeelsdapper I do
[02:53] <jrib> mzddarya: yes, no one may know that is on at this time.  You can try the forums or mailing list too though.  More eyes will see your question
[02:53] <sktfeelsdapper> It's a ubuntu question! Really!
[02:53] <sktfeelsdapper> Is it possible instead of running it from the terminal to have it in your apps?
[02:54] <housetier> yes
[02:54] <gansinho> sktfeelsdapper: create a launcher
[02:54] <sktfeelsdapper> Because if I close down terminal bye bye Nicotine
[02:54] <housetier> and you can even add ANY program to your menu, not just nicotine
[02:54] <sktfeelsdapper> How do you create a launcher?!?!
[02:54] <feross> mzddarya: are there any PHP irc chans?
[02:54] <gansinho> sktfeelsdapper: right click in the desktop
[02:55] <sktfeelsdapper> I tried that on the upper tray thing and it didn't open anything.
[02:55] <mzddarya> feross: I hope so, but I don't know much about irc.
[02:55] <mzddarya> Can anyone recommend an IRC channel for Apache/PHP?
[02:55] <gansinho> sktfeelsdapper: name it, then in the command type the command that you used to type in the terminal
[02:55] <sktfeelsdapper> Does it depend on python to run?
[02:55] <Rasta> ok, ready to install dapper, wish me luck
[02:55] <viator> you can create a launcher
[02:55] <Rasta> ill be back >)
[02:55] <jrib> mzddarya: #apache and ##php
[02:55] <viator> and drag it to the panel
[02:55] <w30> !cups
[02:55] <viator> if you wish
[02:55] <ubotu> Printing in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows
[02:55] <feross> mzddarya: try #apache
[02:56] <mzddarya> thanks feross and jrib
[02:56] <gansinho> sktfeelsdapper: what was the command? that you type in terminal to open nicotine+?
[02:56] <gansinho> what is *
[02:56] <viator> /usr/bin/nicotine   probably
[02:56] <viator> or just nicotine
[02:57] <sktfeelsdapper> it's long!
[02:57] <sktfeelsdapper> cd /home/skt/nicotine+-<IP_ADDRESS>
[02:57] <viator> skt did you install it from the repos?
[02:57] <sktfeelsdapper> And then ./nicotine
[02:57] <viator> i see you didnt
[02:57] <sktfeelsdapper> I think I got it off source forge.
[02:57] <sktfeelsdapper> Or whatever.
[02:57] <viator> its in the repos
[02:58] <sktfeelsdapper> Nicotine+ or just Nicotine?
[02:58] <sktfeelsdapper> Because i found the normal nicotine in the repos.
[02:58] <gansinho> sktfeelsdapper: so it's easy
[02:58] <sktfeelsdapper> Tell me, gansinho I'm all ears.
[02:58] <sktfeelsdapper> Haha
[02:58] <viator> whats the difference  im assuming one is newre or what not
[02:58] <gansinho> sktfeelsdapper: open a new text document
[02:58] <gansinho> in the desktop for example
[02:59] <sktfeelsdapper> ok
[02:59] <sethk> gansinho, I don't have any trouble doing it
[02:59] <gansinho> (I'm not a english native speaker, sorry for misspeling)
[02:59] <sktfeelsdapper> oh no it's fine!
[02:59] <sktfeelsdapper> heh
[02:59] <sethk> sktfeelsdapper, of course, I don't know what we are talking about ...
[02:59] <gansinho> sktfeelsdapper: now type #!/bin/sh
[02:59] <sktfeelsdapper> K
[03:00] <gansinho> in the next line, tipe the first line of your long comand =), and in the second the second
[03:00] <gansinho> got it?
[03:00] <sktfeelsdapper> do i add the "cd" part of it too?
[03:00] <Geoffrey2> feross, ok, live CD is up and I'm at the desktop
[03:00] <gansinho> yep
[03:00] <gansinho> all the comand
[03:00] <gansinho> I'll show you mine
[03:00] <sethk> sktfeelsdapper, if you run zsh instead of bash, it is smart enough to figure out that it's a directory and it changes to it without the cd
[03:01] <sktfeelsdapper> ok.
[03:01] <gansinho> for a app
[03:01] <feross> Geoffrey2: can you mount the / partiton and read it?
[03:01] <sethk> skfit's called autocd
[03:01] <sktfeelsdapper> ok i got it all down now. Haha
[03:01] <gansinho> sktfeelsdapper: I'm a noob too, I discovered this editing things, but the point is: it works
[03:01] <sktfeelsdapper> nowith whatith
[03:01] <Geoffrey2> feross, do I need to do that in terminal?
[03:01] <gansinho> sktfeelsdapper: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25265/
[03:02] <sktfeelsdapper> hmmmmm?
[03:02] <gansinho> (without the numbers obviously)
[03:02] <gansinho> this is a example, with another app
[03:03] <sktfeelsdapper> oh ok
[03:03] <sktfeelsdapper> I got that.
[03:03] <sktfeelsdapper> Now what?
[03:03] <gansinho> save, and close
[03:03] <gansinho> double click it...
[03:03] <gansinho> =D
[03:03] <gansinho> (yours should be like this http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25266/ )
[03:04] <feross> Geoffrey2: yes, or it might alread be mounted... try  df -h to see what you have mounted
[03:04] <sktfeelsdapper> That didn't work.
[03:04] <gansinho> sktfeelsdapper: and ... ?
[03:04] <sktfeelsdapper> It just opens up the file.
[03:04] <gansinho> it is like this? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25266/
[03:05] <sig> anyone know about fonts?
[03:05] <gansinho> just like that one
[03:05] <sktfeelsdapper> yah
[03:05] <gansinho> I wrote it for you
[03:05] <w30>  anyone have any opinions on which ftp server to run?
[03:05] <gansinho> It should open it
[03:06] <gansinho> sktfeelsdapper: when you double click what appears?
[03:06] <sktfeelsdapper> the actual new file.
[03:06] <sethk> w30, depends on your requirements.
[03:06] <gansinho> damn
[03:06] <sethk> w30, ftp is a security problem, so do you really need to run an ftp server?
[03:06] <Geoffrey2> df -h finds unionfs, varrun, varlock, udev, devshm, lrm, and tmpfs
[03:06] <gansinho> the txt file that I said to you to create
[03:06] <gansinho> was a .txt nor a .odt
[03:06] <gansinho> not*
[03:07] <w30> sethk, novice on this end and just a home machine that needs to transfer files to internet friends
[03:07] <sethk> w30, the simplest is wuftp
[03:08] <sktfeelsdapper> It doesn't tell me what kinda file it is, and i did it exactly like you did.
[03:08] <sethk> w30, I wouldn't leave it running on the 'net all the time., though.  if you plan to do that, there are better choices
[03:08] <gansinho> I'll send to you via DCC
[03:08] <feross> w30: uhm, why not ssh, have clients use filezilla with sftp
[03:08] <w30> sethk, security by obscurity. I can shut it off if no one needs it at the moment, there are no uptime obligations.
[03:08] <sethk> w30, people on windows can install cygwin and use sftp.  (there are other windows side programs also)
[03:09] <sethk> w30, if you shut it down, then it's not a problem
[03:09] <sethk> w30, I'll look in the repos, see what's easy
[03:09] <gansinho> sktfeelsdapper: I've got to go, accept it, and run, it should work
[03:09] <sktfeelsdapper> It didn't work
[03:09] <sethk> w30, use tftp instead of ftp, then
[03:10] <sethk> w30, it's extremely easy.
[03:10] <sethk> w30, or, use...
[03:10] <gansinho> oh damn man
[03:10] <sethk> w30, wu-ftpd
[03:10] <w30> sethk, I have windows friends that have to click, they can't type any thing like putty in a dos terminal
[03:10] <gansinho> you should run it in ubuntu
[03:10] <sethk> w30, which is almost as easy as tftp
[03:10] <gansinho> sktfeelsdapper: I've got to go.. bye
[03:10] <sktfeelsdapper> bye
[03:10] <sethk> w30, you can set up your box as a web server, tell them your IP and let them surf to your box that way
[03:11] <feross> Geoffrey2: ok try mkdir /hda4 then mount -t ext2 /hda4 /dev/hda4 or whatever your partition is.. ALso you can run qtparted and check the partitons
[03:11] <w30> sethk, pro-ftp was on Fedora core3 and it was ok for my needs but this is now a Ubuntu box :=)
[03:11] <sethk> w30, it's funny that you say that, because ftp is the original command line way to transfer files
[03:11] <sethk> w30, pro-ftp is in the repositories
[03:11] <sethk> w30, you can install it.
[03:12] <sethk> w30, there is really no difference between FC3 and ubuntu (well, fc5 and ubuntu)
[03:12] <Geoffrey2> feross, is qtparted on the Live CD?
[03:12] <iLLf8d> sethk wow thats a loaded statement greetings btw!
[03:12] <feross> w30 sethk... not to but in but FileZilla for windows works great.. easy pointclick and all w30 needs to install is ssh to get it working with sftp
[03:12] <sethk> iLLf8d, well, it's a bit dull tonight, I thought I'd spice things up.  :)
[03:13] <iLLf8d> heh
[03:13] <eetfunk> i need to install a basic smtp server on my box.  what do you recommend?
[03:13] <sethk> feross, I didn't suggest that he use ftp, merely pointed out that it's available
[03:13] <w30> sethk, yes ftp and gopher and mincom or whatever that was on modems, ha
[03:13] <sethk> feross, I don't use it myself.  but, if he shuts down the server when nobody is getting files, there is nothing wrong with ftp
[03:14] <sethk> w30, what I mean is that ftp _is_ a command line protocol, and those other programs (like the web browser) just fake it out, more or less.
[03:14] <sethk> w30, which can be done with any protocol
[03:14] <sethk> w30, but with ftp it can be done without the windows side doing anything, I realize
[03:14] <feross> sethk: true, I just think it's a waste of time to install an FTP server when ssh is available and necessary for FTP servers so you can manage from remote anyway.
[03:14] <Bog_> anyone know what libsystem is used for?
[03:14] <iLLf8d> eetfunk, I've used postfix before dunno if its your best choice or not (although noone else is answering so) it configuration is pretty easy
[03:15] <eetfunk> iLLf8d: ok thnx
[03:15] <w30> sethk, true it's all clothing that just eats a little more bandwidth
[03:15] <Bonez56> anyone had experience with the truecrypt ubuntu package? it never works... kernel module invalid
[03:15] <sethk> w30, not really significant bandwidth.  it's just a bit ironic
[03:15] <sethk> Bonez56, kernel modules must match the running kernel
[03:15] <brian98> sethk, I disagree with you on the fc5 point ;)
[03:15] <iLLf8d> I had to sit on the phone and in a java servlet for 40 min just to tell my isp their nameservice was down =P
[03:15] <feross> Geoffrey2: hmm not sure.. try it. Just drop to console and type it in or type qt then <tab> to see if it autocompletes
[03:16] <sethk> brian98, I know, but I know both distros quite well.
[03:16] <Bonez56> sethk: yeah, i have a stock standard ubuntu install with linux-686 and the module that comes with the package doesnt work.
[03:16] <sethk> Bonez56, effectively that means you have to build the kernel module locally.
[03:16] <Bonez56> sethk: yeah i think ill just grab the source and build it
[03:16] <w30> Fedora is a lot different in the init part of Linux
[03:16] <sethk> Bonez56, it's common, in a binary distro they update the kernel, and then all sorts of modules refuse to load
[03:16] <iLLf8d> I gavem a list of the servers down and told them I was using <IP_ADDRESS> atm (and it wasn't theirs) so whats the response after like another 5 minute wait <IP_ADDRESS> isn't ours
[03:16] <sethk> w30, no, not significantly.
[03:16] <Geoffrey2> feross, nope...ok, I'll stick in the System Rescue CD, I think that DOES have qtparted in it
[03:16] <Bonez56> sethk: roger
[03:16] <brian98> sethk, one for #offtopic sometime!
[03:17] <feross> Geoffrey2: true
[03:17] <sethk> Geoffrey2, I believe it does have it, yes.
[03:17] <asmandeus> Bah, can't seem to get sound playback
[03:17] <juztin> question : what do i need to fix this error?  : LoadLibrary("ref_glx.so") failed: libSDL_ttf-2.0.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[03:17] <w30> sethk, I kinda like the debian way better, but I never could get debian distros going until Ubuntu.
[03:18] <sethk> w30, debian's not all that hard, once you get past the install, anyway.
[03:18] <sethk> w30, the install isn't bad, just not very well documented
[03:18] <sethk> w30, which is effectively the same thing as bad, for many people.  :)
[03:18] <iLLf8d> juztin, do  an apt-file search (after you've installed apt-file and run an apt-file update) for libSDL_ttf
[03:19] <Bonez56> how do I install kernel source & headers?
[03:19] <w30> sethk, Ubuntu is great from a userability and application install point, rpm hunting is a full time sport on Fedora
[03:19] <iLLf8d> juztin, unless its installed by default I dunno
[03:19] <juztin> iLLf8d, its not, installing now
[03:19] <yanger> :| if i am connected to 100s of people via bittorrent, is it normal to see processor resources spikes?
[03:19] <iLLf8d> it'll show you which packge that should belog to
[03:19] <sethk> w30, I don't use the package managers, so it makes no difference to me.
[03:19] <iLLf8d> belong even
[03:19] <juztin> iLLf8d, its installed...what command do i use to do that?
[03:20] <iLLf8d> apt-file update
[03:20] <iLLf8d> then iirc its apt-file search libSDL_ttf (should tellya which package it'd be a part of assuming ubuntu does it the same way)
[03:20] <sethk> yanger, I would say so, yes.  :)
[03:20] <w30> sethk, what do you mean by that, do you use apt-get or just compile from source
[03:20] <sethk> iLLf8d, yes, apt-file is apt-file on any o/s
[03:20] <yanger> argh... no wonder...
[03:21] <sethk> w30, I compile from source.  I'm _not_ saying other people should do that, by the way.
[03:21] <iLLf8d> sethk, didn't know that
[03:21] <yanger> and they say downloading iso images via bittorrents are easier ;\
[03:21] <iLLf8d> actually I'm gonna install that now too since its not on here
[03:21] <Bonez56> how do I install kernel source & headers?
[03:21] <juztin> iLLf8d, looks like it's as simple as libSDL_ttf ... it's probably in synaptic
[03:21] <sethk> yanger, easier?  no.  better resource utilization on the 'net, definitely.
[03:21] <iLLf8d> sethk, seems theres no terminal based traceroute by default? only gui stuff?
[03:21] <w30> sethk, what distro do you use or have you folled your own?
[03:22] <w30> folled/rolled
[03:22] <sethk> iLLf8d, of course there is traceroute.  I guess "by default" means that with the install option you happened to use, you didn't get it installed.
[03:22] <iLLf8d> Jusztin that command should giveya a list of packages that contain  it
[03:22] <sethk> iLLf8d, but there are at least four different sets of install options.
[03:22] <SpComb> yanger: http is easier, bt is the fastest
[03:22] <iLLf8d> oh hrm were there I guess I've forgotten already
[03:23] <sethk> iLLf8d, traceroute is in the package .... traceroute!   imagine that  :)
[03:23] <iLLf8d> that gui things ok tho I was surprised when it wasn't there although nslookup whois and dig is there
[03:23] <iLLf8d> yeah I know that
[03:23] <sethk> iLLf8d, they are all "there".  some are installed by default with the install option you chose.
[03:23] <iLLf8d> I was just commenting on the fact its not in by default heh
[03:23] <sethk> iLLf8d, some are installed by default with other options.
[03:23] <sethk> iLLf8d, the point is that there isn't a "default".
[03:24] <feross> Bonez56: try 'apt-get install linux-source'
[03:24] <sethk> iLLf8d, there is nothing less "default" about, say, the server install or the oem install.
[03:24] <sethk> iLLf8d, the magic of the package manager is that you can install whatever you want.
[03:24] <sethk> why worry about what happen to be the choices for the desktop option?
[03:25] <iLLf8d> server version has no gui installed right?
[03:25] <feross> sethk: why don't you use genpoo then? :P
[03:25] <sethk> feross, that makes no sense.
[03:25] <juztin> iLLf8d, the package i needed was libsdl-ttf ... thanks for the tip on apt-file :D
[03:25] <sethk> feross, why would I do that?
[03:25] <iLLf8d> maybe thats the one I should've instralled
[03:25] <iLLf8d> juztin, np =)
[03:25] <sethk> feross, there is a bit of a difference between getting what I want in two minutes vs. getting what I want in two days.
[03:25] <barata> my ogg project is done! :) thanks to vorbis-tools
[03:26] <iLLf8d> feross yeah you really can't compare the 2
[03:26] <iLLf8d> not that ones any better then the other they're just quite different
[03:26] <sethk> iLLf8d, he wasn't being serious, I just took the opportunity to make a point  :)
[03:26] <feross> sethk: well I guess the initial install takes forever :) then you can install from source.
[03:27] <iLLf8d> sethk, there are alot of funfishers in here too
[03:27] <sethk> feross, I can install anything I want from source on any linux distro.
[03:27] <asmandeus> hmm, I can get sound running in vmware (on winxp) but not in ubuntu.. what gives
[03:27] <Geoffrey2> feross, ok, qtparted is up...sda4 is extended, sda5 is ext3, and sda6 is linux-swap
[03:27] <sethk> asmandeus, configuration
[03:27] <asmandeus> funny thing is, I believe some sound was working on the LiveCD
[03:27] <iLLf8d> asmandeus, heh why not just use the native os unless you installed esx
[03:27] <feross> sethk: right... what I meant to say came out wrong, was JK.
[03:28] <sethk> asmandeus, gives you a great opportunity.  run it under vmware and get the working configuration, and change the real install to match it.
[03:28] <amicrawle> hey guys where do i add bios's to xmess?
[03:28] <sethk> feross, I knew that.  :)
[03:28] <asmandeus> that makes sense
[03:28] <asmandeus> I could screw with it to my heart's content in vmware
[03:28] <VCF> Hi there, I have a simple question, I have 2 linux server in a network via a router, now how do I share a dir on 1 of the 2 machines ? Machine 1 is a webserver, the other one is a streaming server holding a bunch of MP3's, now I have a php script that scan the content of a dir and outputs the files contained within the dir. You might have guessed where I'm going, I would like to let the...
[03:28] <VCF> ...script scan the dir on the other server. I have looked around but can't find a good tutorial how to set this up, who can help me, or at least point me to some good tutorials wich handle this kind of things. thx
[03:28] <amicrawle> where is a good place for help for xmess
[03:28] <w30> sethk, I try to install from source sometimes. Sometimes I make and sometimes I don't.
[03:28] <sethk> asmandeus, probably did run with the live cd.  that's another way to get the working config.
[03:29] <feross> Geoffrey2: can you run a check on your /
[03:29] <sethk> w30, you have to remember that I've been installing from source for about 30 years.
[03:29] <iLLf8d> VCF towards what end?
[03:29] <iLLf8d> VCF, serving them up or streaming them out?
[03:29] <Spy> Hi does anyone know if it's normal than Internet Connection work on Ubuntu Live CD but don't work after installation on HDD ?
[03:29] <VCF> Jsut listing them on the site
[03:30] <VCF> $just
[03:30] <asmandeus> when switching from LiveCD to the install I'm in, did it like, compile a new kernal minus whatever sound settings?
[03:30] <w30> sethk, Linux is not 30 years old yet is it? Unix is what? 50 years old?
[03:30] <ch4n5> Hi, I need a client to connect my BroadBand. But its available either as a Java Class file or .exe file. My UBUNTU LTS lacks gcc so I can't run either of the above.
[03:30] <J-_> when refering to an ssh public key, what does that mean? I want to start proofreading for the linux gazette and one other thing, what's a good ssh client to go with?
[03:30] <Geoffrey2> feross, FYI (assuming you haven't already figured this out), I switched over from pure Windows not that long ago, so I really don't know many of the Linux commands *YET*
[03:30] <sethk> Spy, normal?  no.
[03:30] <Spy> hum well sethk
[03:30] <sethk> Spy, your configuration isn't right.  are you using DHCP to get your configuration?
[03:30] <iLLf8d> VCF, can I query you to get a bit of clarification?
[03:30] <feross> Geoffrey2: try rightclick on the parttion for your root and look for something like check partition
[03:31] <Spy> Yes sethk
[03:31] <sethk> Spy, I'm not saying you did something wrong, just that for whatever reason your configuration  on the hard drive is wrong
[03:31] <ch4n5> can anyone say me how to install gcc
[03:31] <sethk> Spy, what's not working, specifically?
[03:31] <feross> ch4n5: hmm  'apt-get install gcc'
[03:31] <ch4n5> I downloaded the source files, how to configure, build dependencies
[03:32] <ch4n5> feross: does this work even if I dont have an internet connection?
[03:32] <viator>  ./configure
[03:32] <Spy> i don't know sethk
[03:32] <J-_> http://monkeyblog.org/ubuntu/installing/#installing_a_package_manually
[03:32] <sethk> Spy, then why do you think it isn't working?
[03:32] <asmandeus> One of these days, I'll own a soundcard that works right outta the box
[03:33] <feross> ch4n5: gcc is probably on the ubuntu cd.
[03:33] <sethk> asmandeus, get a cheap one.  they work fine.
[03:33] <brian98> just brought home a spare brand new lappy to give edgy a quick look
[03:33] <asmandeus> I probably should
[03:34] <Spy> sethk i'm new in linux world and when i try to config the connection it don't see my modem
[03:34] <J-_> what's going to be different on edgy in comparison to dapper?
[03:34] <sethk> Spy, modem configuration can be tricky.
[03:34] <espenel> I'll think about it
[03:34] <sethk> Spy, I'm not a good person to help with modems.  I haven't used a modem in about 15 years.
[03:34] <asmandeus> I work with a bunch of music once in a while, so I ended up getting a flashy soundcard
[03:34] <viator> what does he mean by modem
[03:34] <viator> dialup
[03:34] <sethk> viator, I assumed that, but maybe I'm wrong
[03:34] <asmandeus> and it's been nothing but a pain trying to get it working under linux distros
[03:34] <brian98> J-_, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyEft/Beta
[03:34] <viator> or broadband
[03:35] <sethk> viator, he might mean a cable modem or dsl modem.
[03:35] <J-_> brian98: thanks
[03:35] <sethk> Spy, what kind of connection do you have?  did you mean a dial up telephone modem?
[03:35] <SpudDogg> Does anyone know how to make a module load automatically while booting?  As is now, I have to 'sudo modprobe rt2570' every time I boot to use my ralink card.  Any ideas?
[03:35] <Geoffrey2> feross, I don't see any option for that in QtParted...
[03:35] <sethk> SpudDogg, add it to /etc/modules
[03:35] <brian98> sethk: they aint modems
[03:35] <brian98> lol
[03:35] <sethk> brian98, yes they are
[03:35] <sethk> brian98, a modem is simply a device that converts one form of signal to another to accomodate a different medium
[03:35] <Spy> cable modem sethk
[03:36] <Spy> i've exterbal modem on cable connction
[03:36] <viator> modem modulator /demodulator
[03:36] <Spy> external
[03:36] <sethk> Spy, how do you connect to the cable modem?  with a network cable, or a USB cable?
[03:36] <Spy> USB
[03:36] <Jas-Nix> hello, I installed ubuntu edgy and I am trying to get slab (sled10 menu) installed, I saw there is a repo for dapper, will that .deb work for me ?
[03:36] <SpudDogg> sethk: thanks man
[03:36] <Spy> my Lan is OUT
[03:36] <sethk> Spy, to start with, you'll need the usb networking modules inserted into the kernel.
[03:36] <J-_> when refering to an ssh public key, what does that mean? I want to start proofreading for the linux gazette and one other thing, what's a good ssh client to go with?
[03:36] <viator> ethernet is the way to go with neworking equipment
[03:36] <Spy> mkay....
[03:37] <sethk> Spy, you said it works from the live cd, correct?  run the live cd, and when it is running, run this program in a terminal:    lsmod
[03:37] <sethk> Spy, write down the results, and then come back and talk to us.
[03:37] <viator> avoid usb if you can
[03:37] <feross> Geoffrey2: hmm, drop to console and do fsck.ext2 -h to see options.
[03:37] <sethk> viator, I agree, absolutely
[03:37] <ch4n5> feross: Does the Ubuntu LTS CD have this gcc?
[03:37] <Spy> ok thx a lot sethk :)
[03:37] <sethk> viator, but some people have a device without ethernet.
[03:38] <brian98> sethk: Sorry, but you are wrong.  DSL is transferred digitally from the computer to theCO.  The signal is never modulated as is done with modems,MOdulator/DEModulator
[03:38] <feross> ch4n5: hmm not sure
[03:38] <sktfeelsdapper> how do i delete something on command line?
[03:38] <kamui> rm
[03:38] <sktfeelsdapper> this is getting really frustrating.
[03:39] <kamui> I just pop in and Im on top of it
[03:39] <kamui> :-D
[03:39] <brian98> :)
[03:39] <sethk> sktfeelsdapper, delete a file?   rm
[03:39] <viator> he said his local area network was out whats that mean?
[03:39] <tpm> sktfeelsdapper: rm /path/to/file
[03:39] <Geoffrey2> feross, ok, any particular options I want?
[03:39] <viator> they are still dsl modems
[03:40] <sethk> viator, cable modems aren't dsl modems, but I don't know what point you are trying to make.
[03:40] <sktfeelsdapper> Someone needs to make a deb of nicotineplus so I don't have to keep doing this.
[03:40] <sktfeelsdapper> i don't understand why i can't just create a launcher for it.
[03:40] <sethk> sktfeelsdapper, I nominate you.  :)
[03:40] <sethk> sktfeelsdapper, you can.
[03:41] <sethk> sktfeelsdapper, you can create a launcher for anything you can do at the command line.
[03:41] <brian98> I'm just being pedantic
[03:41] <brian98> call em what you like!
[03:41] <feross> Geoffrey2: try 'fsck.ext2 -pcf /dev/yourpartition' ..
[03:41] <asmandeus> ok now I've gotten it so that the base install, on the login screen, there is some sound of something that sounds like two tom-toms hit fast
[03:41] <kamui> pedantic is a very popular word in this channel
[03:41] <asmandeus> but this is the only sound I can get outta the machine, haha
[03:42] <RamiKassab> hey guys how do you establish a VPN connection in ubuntu?
[03:42] <RamiKassab> is it built in or do I need to download software to do that?
[03:42] <sethk> RamiKassab, you run a vpn client program
[03:42] <RamiKassab> sethk: is there one built into ubuntu?
[03:42] <sktfeelsdapper> Someone tried to show me how to create a launcher and it didn't work.
[03:42] <RamiKassab> sethk: or packaged with it rather
[03:42] <sktfeelsdapper> and then when I deleted the launcher it made nicotine not work.
[03:42] <jatt> RamiKassab: if you want to connect to a windows-based VPN you could try the pptp-linux package.
[03:42] <sethk> RamiKassab, you can load vpn client software using the package manager, if that's what you are asking
[03:43] <asmandeus> I wonder if it's possible I don't have rights to hear sound :x
[03:43] <Geoffrey2> feross, ok, force checking, check for bad blocks, and auto repair (no questions)....
[03:43] <ch4n5> feross: If not available on the CD what should I do?
[03:43] <kamui> ramikassab: google linux vpn howto
[03:43] <kamui> great resource
[03:43] <feross> RamiKassab: hamachi, himachi... works very well
[03:43] <Jas-Nix> is it possible to use dapper .deb's with edgy ?
[03:43] <viator> skt the easiest way is to right click on the desktop and just put ion the command used to launch the application
[03:44] <sethk> asmandeus, the user who "owns" x has the right to play sounds.
[03:44] <sethk> asmandeus, that's the user you logged in as.
[03:44] <kamui> ramikassab: step by step instructions on setting up and connecting to a number of different vpn configurations
[03:44] <RamiKassab> feross: ok I will look for thatr
[03:44] <RamiKassab> jatt: pptp-linux is that command line only?
[03:44] <asmandeus> hmm, how come I can hear the login noise, but nothing at all afterwards
[03:44] <viator> make sure you you specify the path
[03:44] <RamiKassab> kamui: really?
[03:45] <viator> ie location where the file is
[03:45] <RamiKassab> kamui: I thought google was a porn site?
[03:45] <feross> asmandeus: run alsamixer and check that nothing is mutted
[03:45] <sktfeelsdapper> Who was just helping me there?
[03:45] <asmandeus> tried that
[03:45] <RamiKassab> kamui: oh wait that was www.booble.com
[03:45] <brian98> RamiKassab, thats poogle
[03:45] <RamiKassab> brian98: haha
[03:45] <sethk> sktfeelsdapper, if you run into a problem setting up the launcher, you just create a script file that does exactly what you do at the command line, and then tell the launcher to run the script
[03:45] <SpaceFrog> How can I remove/hide things from the Applications Menu?
[03:45] <kamui> ramikassab: Well, I hope youre not acting like a putz.  I've used the howto in the past for slackware vpn help.  I just don't have the exact link to give you
[03:45] <asmandeus> Everything has green blocks or whatever.
[03:45] <brian98> SpaceFrog, applications
[03:45] <jatt> RamiKassab: there are front-ends for it. For example the knet package (I am sure there is a front-end for gnome too, but don't know the package name). You need pptp only for a windows based vpn.
[03:46] <sktfeelsdapper> I tried that, sethk.
[03:46] <brian98> SpaceFrog, accessories --> alacarte menu ed
[03:46] <sktfeelsdapper> #!user/bin
[03:46] <SpaceFrog> thanks brian98 :)
[03:46] <sktfeelsdapper> And all that other junk?
[03:46] <RamiKassab> jatt: ok I will check that out too... think I may try hamachi
[03:46] <admin_> I am using Ubuntu , how can i do something so that X does not run, and i'm just left with a text term
[03:46] <sethk> sktfeelsdapper, that's wrong
[03:46] <RamiKassab> jatt: first, then see what I can find for pptp-linux
[03:46] <sethk> sktfeelsdapper, there is, first of all, no user directory, it's usr.  second, you don't put the name of a directory on that line
[03:46] <brian98> amin_ hit alt f1
[03:47] <brian98> :)
[03:47] <jatt> RamiKassab: ok good luck
[03:47] <sethk> sktfeelsdapper, third of all, if you just leave that line out altogether the o/s will do the right thing with the script.
[03:47] <Geoffrey2> feross, ok, I entered fsck.ext2 -pcf /dev/sda5
[03:47] <RamiKassab> kamui: nah I'm just messin with ya man... I appreciate the help though
[03:47] <brian98> admin_,  sorry hit alt f1
[03:47] <admin_> brian98: ctrl alt f1 takes me to tty1
[03:47] <RamiKassab> jatt: thanks... much appreciated
[03:47] <sktfeelsdapper> Example?
[03:47] <admin_> i want X completely killed and not to respawn
[03:47] <brian98> admin_, why out of interest?
[03:47] <feross> Geoffrey2: any feedback from it? did it say it fixed anything?
[03:47] <Jas-Nix> admin_: you probably need to kill gdm
[03:47] <sktfeelsdapper> Do the files actually have to BE in bin?
[03:47] <sktfeelsdapper> I'm so confused.
[03:47] <kamui> ramikassab: Im hardly concerned.  good luck with your vpn configuration.  remember the howto if you get stuck.
[03:47] <sethk> sktfeelsdapper, example of what?  edit a file.  put the line "ls" in it.  then do chmod +x on the file.  then do ./filename    the ls command is run
[03:48] <admin_> brian98: i dont really need X running, i'm just using it as a Cisco Console terminal, and its an old lappy, dont need it to waste resources
[03:48] <RamiKassab> kamui: I will make sure to check it out
[03:48] <sktfeelsdapper> i'm gonna need an instruction man
[03:48] <RamiKassab> btw, do you guys know if there is a good channel on freenode for networking questions?
[03:48] <SpaceFrog> Can i remove a whole menu item with alacarte menu editor? I want to take Crossover out of it all together
[03:48] <sethk> sktfeelsdapper, put exactly what you type into a file.  then do chmod +x on the file.  then run that file.  that's all there is to it.
[03:48] <amicrawle> how to run kxmame
[03:48] <admin_> It will restart x if i kill it or gdm
[03:48] <justin_> How do I get modules to run at every start up?
[03:48] <Geoffrey2> feross, so far I'm just getting a blinking cursor on the line below it, nothing else
[03:48] <sethk> justin_, put them into /etc/modules
[03:48] <Kalisto> i have a very peculiar problem with the ubuntu installation... i cannot install grub. it attempts it after i specify /dev/**** but then fails with "Error" any ideas?
[03:48] <Jas-Nix> admin_: ya if you run /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[03:48] <brian98> admin_, install the server version or wait a sec!
[03:48] <admin_> Jas-Nix: that wont work
[03:49] <justin_> sethk: Alright so once they are in that directory they will always start automatically at boot up?
[03:49] <RamiKassab> I setup a network for a couple sororities and the wireless portion is having a hard time due to the heavy load. I'm running hyperwrt + thibor on linksys WRT54Gs
[03:49] <sethk> Kalisto, you need to tell us the error message, not just that it gets an error.  and you have to tell us the device name you used.
[03:49] <viator> skt
[03:49] <feross> Geoffrey2: do you see drive activity?
[03:49] <admin_> brian98: i'll wait a sec
[03:49] <sktfeelsdapper> viator?
[03:49] <viator> where is the application lacated
[03:49] <sethk> justin_, it will be as if you did insmod on them.
[03:49] <brian98> admin_, http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=228104 does that help
[03:49] <brian98> ?
[03:49] <viator> what directory
[03:49] <justin_> But I have no /etc/modules --- only /etc/modprobe.d ---
[03:50] <brian98> admin_,  should allow you to boot to terminal
[03:50] <Geoffrey2> feross, the drive light is on, yes
[03:50] <sktfeelsdapper> it won't let me show you!
[03:50] <brian98> admin_,  if you have a read
[03:50] <sethk> justin_, I'll check the file name.
[03:50] <Kalisto> sethk, thats just the problem. i dont get an error message.. the gui just brings up a red box with "Grub Failed Error" device was external usb on /dev/sdb1
[03:50] <viator> put a spcae
[03:50] <feross> Geoffrey2: ok so we should assume that it's still working on it.. could take some time.
[03:50] <sethk> justin_, yes, it's /etc/modules.  if you don't have one, then create it.
[03:50] <viator> before the /
[03:50] <sktfeelsdapper> nope stil nothing
[03:50] <sktfeelsdapper> how are you doing that
[03:50] <Geoffrey2> feross, sda5 is about 20 GB, I can believe it
[03:51] <viator> or leave out the first /
[03:51] <amicrawle> what is a good  multi emulator  with gui ?
[03:51] <sethk> Kalisto, that's why I hate GUIs, sometimes.  :)
[03:51] <admin_> brian98: eh..kinda complex for me
[03:51] <Kalisto> sethk, i suspect my mbr is borked
[03:51] <sktfeelsdapper> home/skt/nicotine+-<IP_ADDRESS>
[03:51] <admin_> isnt there a simple way..maybe to startup in a differnt runlevel
[03:51] <sethk> Kalisto, no, because the grub _install_ doesn't care whether your mbr is borked.
[03:51] <sktfeelsdapper> I guess sethk can't read my message.
[03:51] <sethk> sktfeelsdapper, what message?
[03:51] <feross> amicrawle: multi emulator .. like screen?
[03:51] <sktfeelsdapper> i sent you a query?
[03:51] <sethk> sktfeelsdapper, didn't see it.  you probably haven't registered your NIC with freenode
[03:52] <feross> amicrawle: screen is a good program for multiple terminals in one console kind of thing.
[03:52] <sktfeelsdapper> No haven't.
[03:52] <sethk> sktfeelsdapper, if you haven't registered your nick, it drops those requests.
[03:52] <sktfeelsdapper> dangit.
[03:52] <sethk> sktfeelsdapper, not me, freenode.
[03:52] <sktfeelsdapper> yah i know.
[03:52] <Kalisto> sethk, oooh that does not sound good then.. if its not the mbr.. then well i really dont know... the partition is bootable with ID Linux...filesystem ist ext2
[03:52] <sethk> sktfeelsdapper, registering the nick takes about 10 seconds
[03:52] <justin_> sethk: Well it already works it is how I fixed my soundcard, (ess) but I just forget what I did exactly ;) --- oh well
[03:52] <brian98> admin_,  If thats too complicated have a look at the gdm file in etc/init.d
[03:52] <brian98> it's what starts x I think
[03:52] <brian98> *stands to be corrected*
[03:52] <sktfeelsdapper> ok i think it worked.
[03:52] <sethk> Kalisto, grub doesn't care about the bootable flag, actually.  what you need to do is boot the live cd, then we can install grub from the command line.
[03:53] <Kalisto> sethk, ok i can do that.. its not the command grub-installer i take it?
[03:53] <admin_> I have another question, when i'm in any tty console, dmesg like messges about my wireless card connections keep coming up..how can i stopt hat?
[03:53] <rescind> I partitioned a fat 32 drive and now I can't access it.
[03:54] <sethk> Kalisto, you can try the grub install command from the command line.  I usually use the grub utility, because the gui has probably already run the grub install and it has failed for some reason.
[03:54] <Geoffrey2> I understand running games under a VM is still not overly wonderful?
[03:54] <sethk> Kalisto, but sometimes it works when you run it by hand.
[03:54] <justin_> Oh nevermind sethk, you are correct ;) -- Modules is a file -- I thought you were talking about a directory, I still forget you do not always need extensions for files hehe...
[03:54] <Kalisto> sethk, just to clarify.. what command do i run? "grub"?
[03:55] <sethk> justin_, extensions don't even exist.  the "." character is no different than any other character in a file name
[03:55] <pppoe_dude> hi.
[03:55] <sethk> Kalisto, the grub utility is called grub, yes.
[03:55] <viator> so the launcher should be  / home/skt/nicotine+-<IP_ADDRESS>/nicotine+
[03:55] <Kalisto> sethk, ok thanks for the help.. ill give it a try.
[03:55] <viator> so the launcher should be  /home/skt/nicotine+-<IP_ADDRESS>/nicotine+
[03:55] <sktfeelsdapper> it shouldn't have that ./ in front of it?
[03:55] <lostinc> Are there additional tile sets for GNOME Mahjongg?
[03:55] <sethk> sktfeelsdapper, no, ./ means "in the current directory"
[03:56] <Geoffrey2> feross, would be nice if this thing didn't run silently, just so I could know for sure it was actually accomplishing something
[03:56] <feross> Geoffrey2: true, I thought it would give you a progress bar or something :) never ran it just see a fsck come up every 30 mounts or so when I reboot.
[03:56] <myesterious> hi all
[03:57] <myesterious> hey I got err during install GTK+
[03:57] <myesterious> http://rafb.net/paste/results/Fdh0hP57.html
[03:58] <Geoffrey2> well, I DO get a progress bar when the every 30 boot check takes place, but apparently this does not
[03:58] <jrib> myesterious: what are you compiling?
[03:58] <myesterious> GTK+
[03:58] <rbil> wondering if anyone here can help me with cd/dvd burning problems?
[03:58] <sethk> myesterious, you are installing from source?
[03:58] <myesterious> i want to install xfce4 and its want GTK+
[03:59] <myesterious> yep
[03:59] <jrib> myesterious: xfce4 (and gtk+) are both in the repositories
[03:59] <rbil> thing is when I first install ubuntu that stuff worked flawlessly, then I guess some update killed it all?
[03:59] <viator> install xfce-desktop
[03:59] <viator> ?
[03:59] <jrib> xubuntu-desktop
[03:59] <viator> yeah
[03:59] <myesterious> i want xfce4.4rc1
[03:59] <rlandis> hello
[03:59] <viator> that one
[03:59] <unfknblvbl> hello
[04:00] <rlandis> hi unfknb
[04:00] <myesterious> the repository has only xfce4 beta1
[04:00] <hpklett> does anybody know why the latest freetype has no matching -dev package?
[04:00] <viator> whats the difference REALLY
[04:00] <asmandeus> Ok this is strange
[04:00] <viator> is there a majore fature difference
[04:00] <Geoffrey2> feross, done..../dev/sda5: 98993/2725440 files (1.9% non-contiguous), 998299/5442010 blocks
[04:00] <viator> ?
[04:00] <asmandeus> I found something on the forum about someone having trouble with sound on their main account
[04:01] <jrib> myesterious: sudo apt-get build-dep xfce4   may help you get started.  But there is probably little reason not to use the prebuilt repository one
[04:01] <asmandeus> but after making a test account, it worked perfectly there
[04:01] <jrib> ubotu: tell myesterious about compiling
[04:01] <[Nige] > how do Install glibc2.4?
[04:01] <viator> idont what to look at changelogs
[04:01] <asmandeus> so I tried the same thing
[04:01] <rbil> or is there a more appropriate irc channel to ask about my cd burning problems?
[04:01] <asmandeus> and it's the same problem for me
[04:01] <feross> Geoffrey2: any other partitions to check before reboot?
[04:01] <asmandeus> the user asmandeus does not have sound, but has sound access
[04:01] <iLLf8d> ubotu, tell iLLf8d about compiling
[04:01] <viator> asmadeus if you cant find what it is
[04:01] <iLLf8d> heh
[04:02] <Geoffrey2> feross, well, any need to check linux-swap?
[04:02] <rlandis> mysterious I have xfce but it came as default with xubuntu
[04:02] <asmandeus> their problem was solved by deleting some file
[04:02] <asmandeus> but I can't find that
[04:02] <viator> what you do is give your test acct su prilidges
[04:02] <viator> and delete your acct
[04:02] <feross> Geoffrey2: nah
[04:02] <RedRose> !edgy
[04:02] <ubotu> edgy is the current development version of Ubuntu. Version 6.10, codename "Edgy Eft". For support head to #ubuntu+1. For its release schedule, see !schedule
[04:02] <viator> and then just make your acct again
[04:02] <asmandeus> and remake asmandeus?
[04:02] <rlandis> but now i use fluxbox
[04:02] <iLLf8d> heh
[04:02] <asmandeus> damnit, why didn't I think of that
[04:02] <lampshade> fluxbox is pretty cool
[04:02] <asmandeus> haha