[00:00] <lorddelta1> Running 12.10: why might my upstart packages be visible to system v init scripts?
[00:00] <Neldogz> Hey everyone, what is the proper way to setup dual screens in Ubuntu? I have 2 screens setup using Nvidia Proprietary drivers in TwinView config. Is this the correct option?
[00:00] <sha1sum> Prock: look it up.
[00:00] <Dr_Willis_> there are koisk focused disrtos out there. and i recall gnome ages ago haveing a koisk mode
[00:00] <Prock>  Dr_Willis_ running virtual machine and having the most possible resources free for the VM
[00:00] <Dr_Willis_> Prock:  i use openbox or jwm in my vms.
[00:01] <Jordan_U> Prock: Once you get to WMs like fluxbox, obenbox, ratpoison... they all use so few resources as to be negligable.
[00:01] <Dr_Willis_> given how a browser is going tobe usiing 100x the resources of most of the wm's - i dont see the point in trying to trim down the wm
[00:01] <Prock> i use vmware 9.0.2 only, no others can do what i needd
[00:01] <sha1sum> Prock: at a certain point, just a few decorations will probably have an extremely minimal effect on your resources.
[00:01] <m1chael> http://dpaste.com/1143123/ # does this output indicate that this is a working dvd burner? this is a virtual machine running through virtualbox on a windows 8 host. this is a new laptop and i dont know if this is a dvd burner or not
[00:01] <Dr_Willis_> !info twm
[00:02] <m1chael> dev/dvdrw is not present, just /dev/cdrom and /dev/dvd
[00:02] <Prock> in talking for the host... the wm
[00:02] <Dr_Willis_> m1chael:  those are all normally links to the correct /dev/sr# device
[00:02] <subcool> neekz0r, ok - im back.
[00:02] <subcool> what was that command?
[00:03] <Runemoro> Hi, when I do X -configure, it tells me "Number of created screens does not match number of detected devices."
[00:03] <Runemoro> How can I fix this?
[00:03] <m1chael> Dr_Willis, so its possible to have a dvd burner and not have /dev/dvdrw links?
[00:03] <sha1sum> So this is going to suck either (a) watching my videos with subtitles, or (b) listening to audio through my laptop speakers because I can't get HDMI audio to work.
[00:03] <sha1sum> Working in OpenSUSE, not in Ubuntu. WTF?
[00:04] <supersecond> hello
[00:04] <Aww> Hello
[00:04] <subcool> sha1sum, hasnt HDMI like never worked?
[00:04] <Dr_Willis_> m1chael:  the /dev/dv* links are JUST soft links to the actual devie. to give them a easier to read name.. you can tell the burner app to use /dev/sr# or whatever the actual device is
[00:04] <subcool> i havent even bothered to try to fix it
[00:04] <supersecond> im good, how are you?
[00:05] <sha1sum> subcool: did for me on this same machine with an older kernel and older pretty much everything.
[00:05] <Dr_Willis_> sha1sum:  theres known bugs with hdmi out on some of the 13.04 kernels. I found posts to info on it at askubuntu.com and got mine working via using a newer testing kernel. (using 3.9.0-xxx right now)
[00:05] <subcool> mdadm: /dev/sdf1 is busy - skipping
[00:05] <subcool>  -- wtf?
[00:06] <Dr_Willis_> subcool:  hdmi worked for me all throght beta. then broke when final came out.. its supposed tobe getting fixed.. but ive  not seen an official patch/update yet
[00:06] <subcool> i questioned it years ago
[00:06] <subcool> havne bothered since
[00:06] <subcool> thats kinda scary stupid to know that its STILL not working
[00:06] <sha1sum> Dr_Willis_: yeah I'm running 3.8.0-19... Maybe I should upgrade.
[00:07] <SunStar> well there is a stupid bug with mouse pointers in XFCE that hasnt been addressed in over 8 years
[00:07] <Dr_Willis_> its Been working for me for 2+ yrs subcool  theres just a regression in the 3.8* kernel for some reason
[00:07] <subcool> oh- so im the only one with it still not working
[00:07] <subcool> well thats be nice to have
[00:07] <SunStar> thats not what he said
[00:07] <Dr_Willis_> try the 3.9 kernel perhaps?
[00:07] <subcool> im on 3.2 - mine still doesnt work. well - atleast out of box
[00:08] <subcool> neekz0r, ?
[00:09] <sha1sum> Yep just downloaded and trying 3.9 now
[00:09] <subcool> is anyone familiar with Raid 0? im trying to mount an OLD raid0 i have, but- running into issues. neekz0r has been helping me. but- we are kinda stumped ab it
[00:10] <SunStar> you need to use the same kind of RAID controller
[00:10] <subcool> its a software raid
[00:10] <lorddelta> Nvm package re-install seems to have fixed. Guess something got stuck in a cache somewhere.
[00:10] <SDr_> hi there, while doing init.d on a linode box configured to run IPV6, I've got: nginx: [emerg] bind() to [2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fe96:5b5f]:80 failed (99: Cannot assign requested address)  ;after the box comes up, ifconfig admits to that address; any idea how I can delay init.d 's nginx starting up to the point of IPV6 assignment?
[00:10] <Aaron__> anyone know how to do a duel boot install along side windows 8 on a "gaming rig"?
[00:11] <subcool> Aaron__, same as any dual boot
[00:11] <subcool> Aaron__, install win8, then install ubuntu
[00:11] <SunStar> with windows 8 you might need to run bootrepair after installing ubuntu
[00:11] <Aaron__> subcool, I thought so too. but it just wiped my Windows 8 drive that I had all my programs on.
[00:11] <utfans05> Aaron__: subcool is correct
[00:11] <sha1sum> Aaron__: Must have Windows installed or else you will not be able to access linux without a boot repair
[00:11] <SunStar> u didnt partition it right
[00:11] <subcool> Aaron__, dont let it use the entire disk
[00:11] <sha1sum> Aaron__: Yeah you probably got rid of the Windows partition.
[00:12] <Neldogz> Hey everyone, what is the proper way to setup dual screens in Ubuntu? I have 2 screens setup using Nvidia Proprietary drivers in TwinView config. Is this the correct option?
[00:12] <subcool> reinstall Win8, or recover what u lost..
[00:12] <sha1sum> OK, trying 3.9. Wish me luck.
[00:12] <utfans05> Aaron__: if you try to install windows it will remove the linux boot manager when it installs. you would then have to run a boot recovery cd and fix grub
[00:12] <subcool> Aaron__, reinstall ubuntu, use guided, but dont let it use the entire disk- there is a side by side option
[00:12] <Aaron__> subcool, I just selected the option "Run along side windows 8" should I choose a different option?
[00:12] <subcool> You could install ubuntu first, but- you;l have to do a grub recovery
[00:12] <Dr_Willis_> Neldogz:  install nvidia drivers, reboot, run nvida-settings tool. enable twinview and tweak how you want, save to the xorg.conf , restart X server.. enjoy
[00:13] <Aaron__> subcool, when I chose that opiton last time it wiped my entire D drive.
[00:13] <subcool> i havent installed with the new 13. - so idk, but i know not much has changed
[00:13] <Prock> ok, next question, is there a way to... xinit vmware ... first then switch back to a tty then load a wm to where xinit put the app, do what i need with the wm then kill it and my xinit app not be destoryd
[00:13] <Neldogz> Thank you Dr_Willis, is the mouse pointer supposed to get stuck between screens?
[00:13] <m1chael> is running ubuntu in virtualbox ok? if you have hardware to burn
[00:13] <utfans05> m1chael: yes it totally fine
[00:14] <Dr_Willis_> Neldogz:  i havent notice3d the issue.  theres a bit of a 'resistance' i recall.
[00:14] <Neldogz> Thanks again Dr_willis
[00:14] <allanx0> Hello after entering my pass to my desktop, it goes back to login details. i cant get passed the desktop. I created another username works ok except for my old one. Last things i did was just apt-get update but when i reboot and try to login, i couldnt get to pass the desktop. How to fix this issue?
[00:14] <FloodBot1> !netsplit
[00:14] <Dr_Willis_> m1chael:  i run ubuntu in vbox on windows 7 - runs decently well
[00:14] <allanx0> is this the solution? im afraid to do this.im using xubuntu desktop 64bit http://www.winmatrix.com/forums/index.php?/topic/30880-ubuntu-login-issue-solutions/
[00:14] <SunStar> subcool, http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/262546-32-raid-rebuild
[00:14] <subcool> Aaron__, - i tihnk your just mis-clicking..
[00:14] <sha1sum> Dr_Willis_: yep, 3.9 fixed it.
[00:14] <Dr_Willis_> allanx0:  check in the problem users home directory. move/rename their .Xauthority file and see if they can then login
[00:14] <sha1sum> So weird.
[00:14] <Aaron__> subcool, do you recommend a USB install or CD install? or should it matter?
[00:15] <sha1sum> Dr_Willis_: thanks!
[00:15] <subcool> doesnt matter
[00:15] <Dr_Willis_> sha1sum:  id been waiting for an official fix since release. got sick of waiting. ;)
[00:15] <Prock> is there a way to... xinit vmware ... first then switch back to a tty then load a wm to where xinit put the app, do what i need with the wm then kill it and my xinit app not be destoryd
[00:15] <subcool> Aaron__, thing is - you have to pay attention.
[00:15] <SunStar> did you get the link subcool?
[00:16] <subcool> SunStar, yes- thanks. im reading it
[00:16] <sha1sum> Dr_Willis: woohoo! now I can watch cheesy TV series with 7.1 surround.  So when your booting- you dont get cluster/fluster when it all goes down
[00:17] <Aaron__> subcool, I don't really care... the media drive just had video games on it, it'll just take a couple of hours to get that back.
[00:18] <Prock> totally NOT*
[00:18] <Aaron__> subcool, thanks for the help though. I'll try to pay more attention this time. Last night I did the install at 4AM, probably not the best idea.
[00:18] <subcool> Aaron__, just write it down.
[00:18] <Prock> cause of hot keys the guest uses
[00:19] <Dr_Willis> http://xwinman.org/  a big list of a lot of window managers.. some are very tiny.. some are very old..
[00:19] <subcool> Aaron__, to save yourself trouble, resinatll win8 first.
[00:19] <subcool> you can do a data recovery if you want to get ur stuff back if u want..
[00:19] <subcool> Aaron__, idk what u lost
[00:19] <allanx0> Dr_Willis: I have no .Xauthority . I did "locate .Xauthority"
[00:19] <subcool> C drive is usually SDA, D drive is usually Sdb
[00:20] <Dr_Willis> allanx0:  its in your users home directory
[00:20] <subcool> Aaron__, ^^
[00:20] <Dr_Willis> ls -l ~/.Xauthority
[00:20] <subcool> You can even create the partitions NOW
[00:20] <subcool> Aaron__,
[00:20] <m1chael> does RedoBackup or Clonezilla work with new computers running Windows8/uefi ?
[00:20] <Aaron__> subcool, thanks again. I'm gonna try the guided side-by-side.
[00:20] <subcool> KEEP AN EYE ON IT Aaron__
[00:20] <Dr_Willis> allanx0:  a common issue is that file getting owned by root.
[00:20] <Aaron__> subcool, if I don't end up using ubuntu is there an easy way to "remove" ubuntu from the side-by-side install?
[00:21] <subcool> Aaron__, format
[00:21] <Aaron__> subcool, haha, alright...
[00:21] <Dr_Willis> Aaron__:  if you just want to test ubuntu. try it in virtualbox perhaps.
[00:21] <subcool> Aaron__, Windows will be on NTFS, the ifrst partition. - ubuntu will be on the second partition. including a swapp partition
[00:21] <subcool> Aaron__, yeah- yoou could even use the LIVEUSB as its own installation
[00:22] <Aaron__> Dr_Willis, subcool the only reason I'm installing ubuntu is because I like *nix systems for development.
[00:22] <subcool> Aaron__, setup a persistence space..
[00:22] <allanx0> Dr_Willis: no such file or directory
[00:22] <subcool> Aaron__, i can hear that.
[00:22] <Aaron__> subcool, would you recommend a VM for dev instead of a native install for that case?
[00:22] <Dr_Willis> Aaron__:  you can develop in vbox :) but you said you wanted to test the disrto out.. vbox is the cleanest way to do that.
[00:23] <subcool> AaaA, yeah- the Dr. is the best..
[00:23] <Aaron__> I've got 16gb ram and a ton of HD space.
[00:23] <subcool> Aaron__, VM wouldnt matter much at all
[00:23] <Dr_Willis> allanx0:  could be some other setting file is crashing your desktop and kicking you back to the login screen.
[00:24] <Dr_Willis> allanx0:  you could move all the various config files to some subdir and try logging in again
[00:24] <m1chael> ive got vbox running xubuntu on a laptop with 6gb ram and it seems totally fine
[00:24] <Aaron__> Dr_Willis, would you use Vbox vs any other VM solution?
[00:24] <Dr_Willis> I basically only use vbox
[00:24] <Aaron__> Dr_Willis, subcool thanks guys, I really appreciate the feedback.
[00:25] <subcool> Aaron__, i just converted to Vbox becaues of vm's horrible help chat.
[00:25] <allanx0> Dr_Willis: what "various files" you mean?
[00:25] <Dr_Willis> allanx0:  all the .config and other .* setting files in your home
[00:26] <Dr_Willis> allanx0:  but most of the time people in here have this issue - its their .Xauthority file thats messed up
[00:26] <elisa87> Where can I ask questions about compiler and llvm? Dr_Willis bekks
[00:27] <Dr_Willis> elisa87:  i dont use either. so no idea. ;)
[00:27] <mchlbhm> Using ubuntu 12.04 and wifi won't load any pages. Took me three tries to log into freenode. Anyone willing to help me with this issue?
[00:27] <Dr_Willis> mchlbhm:  the networkis having issues right now with netsplits and stuff
[00:27] <subcool> SunStar, thanks. but- live cd isnt doing it
[00:28] <SunStar> subcool, use Redo Backup & Restore
[00:28] <SunStar> or clonezilla
[00:28] <SunStar> redo is easier
[00:29] <mchlbhm> Dr_Willis, so freenode is having troubles?
[00:29] <m1chael> does RedoBackup or Clonezilla work with new computers running Windows8/uefi ?
[00:30] <SunStar> redo works with pretty much everything
[00:30] <subcool> SunStar, i dont have the space to pull the data off.
[00:30] <allanx0> Dr_Willis : I have .encryptfs and .Private, Access-Your-Private-Data.desktop when i do "ls -la"
[00:30] <subcool> SunStar, im just tyring to mount it
[00:31] <mchlbhm> Dr_Willis, I guess I dont understand what that has to do with me not being able to open any web pages
[00:31] <Dr_Willis> alabala:  login as your user. on the console and look at the actual users files.. you are using an encrypted home
[00:32] <SunStar> subcool, only way i know to do that is to mount the raw .ISO or .img sorry
[00:32] <Loshki> elisa87: google says llvm has its own forums (fora?) at http://llvm.1065342.n5.nabble.com/
[00:32] <allanx0> Dr_Willis: I will just move the two files ".encryotfs and .Private"?
[00:32] <Dr_Willis> allanx0:  no.. dont TOUCH those.
[00:32] <allanx0> Ok
[00:33] <Dr_Willis> allanx0:  go to the CONSOLE.. alt-ctrl-f1 and login as your user.. and look at what files are there
[00:33] <treanet> Hi. How can I control networking properly from upstart on 12.04LTS? I continually get stop: Unknown instance: when service networking stop, or networking stop/waiting when service networking start  all I have is auto lo iface lo inet loopback ?
[00:34] <torpet> hi, what exact package (fluendo mp3) does the ubuntu installer deploy? if i do not enable it during installation and install ubuntu-restricted-extras afterwards, will it be included?
[00:34] <allanx0> Dr_Willis : I have .encryptfs and .Private, Access-Your-Private-Data.desktop and README.txt when i do "ls -la"
[00:35] <treanet> WTF.. i had to ifconfig eth0 down for service networking restart to work?
[00:35] <Dr_Willis> allanx0:  you went to the console and logged in?  or are you looking at the files as a differnt user?
[00:35] <allanx0> Dr_Willis: I login to my account on console with my username
[00:37] <Dr_Willis> alabala:   I dont use encrypted homes. so i dont know why that wouldent be unlocking your encrypted home. someone else may know
[00:37] <Dr_Willis> oops hat was for allanx0
[00:38] <treanet> I just dont get it
[00:39] <p7ank5te7>  I'm trying to change my hard drive out on my home server, which is just a single disk, and trying to go to a Raid 1, but I'm not understanding how I can do this(I've read over a few different tutorials, but being a linux n00b it still doesn't quite click). Can anyone give me a few pointers? Also to top it off, when the server was built, it appears that only 2 partitions were made, 1 being the
[00:39] <p7ank5te7> root( / ) and 1 being the swap. Does that pose additional problems
[00:41] <Dr_Willis> change the hd out? You are using raid with 1 hard drive?>
[00:41] <subcool> is anyone familiar with recreating a raid0?
[00:42] <utfans05> p7ank5te7: no thats typical for having /root and the swap being on 2 different partitions
[00:42] <p7ank5te7> Dr_WillisI'm currently using as a standalone HD, and I have acquired 2 new hard drives and want to move to them but have them as raid 1.
[00:43] <subcool> every time i do something i get mdadm: /dev/sdf1 is busy - skipping
[00:43] <utfans05> are you going to do it as a software raid or an actual hardware raid?
[00:43] <allanx0> Dr_Willis: Got it! Thanks :) sudo chmod u+w /home/user did the trick :)
[00:43] <p7ank5te7> I am missing the /boot partition from the guides though which is what is confusing me I guess utfans05.
[00:43] <p7ank5te7> utfans05: is that for me or subcool?
[00:44] <Dr_Willis> allanx0:  thats very weird that the  permissions got changed
[00:44] <utfans05> p7ank5te7: so there area few ways you can set it up, you can have /root be one partition /home be another and then a 3rd for your swap file.
[00:44] <utfans05> it was for both
[00:44] <subcool> utfans05, mines software
[00:44] <subcool> utfans05, its an old raid i had 6 years ago- im just trying to rebuild it - mount it and pull its info. it shouldnt be corrupt. im just too noob at this.
[00:44] <allanx0> Dr_Willis: Yeah after i apt-get and upgrade. I guess i will not apt-get and upgrade then lol
[00:45] <p7ank5te7> utfans05: Well, I'm not sure what to do. I have the bios which is capable of doing the raid, but heard it's better to have linux handle it?
[00:45] <allanx0> Dr_Willis: Thanks :)
[00:46] <utfans05> p7ank5te7: have you seen this guide? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SoftwareRAID
[00:46] <treanet> I have tons of tunnel interfaces up showing from initctl list | grep networking as:  network-interface-security (network-interface/br-tun) started/running .. how can I kill them?
[00:46] <utfans05> its older but should still work
[00:47] <treanet> pfff reboot
[00:48] <p7ank5te7> utfans05, isn't that for new setups though?
[00:48] <Warfar> if i want to install linux on a windows pc, it it better to make a new partion or install it on top of windows
[00:49] <utfans05> p7ank5te7: yes, arent you going from one drive to 2 totally different drives?
[00:50] <utfans05> Warfar: there is an option in the installer to install it side by side
[00:50] <Warfar> oh i'm using linux mint
[00:50] <utfans05> Warfar: you may want to ask in the mint channel.
[00:51] <p7ank5te7> utfans05, yes but I was hoping to clone the original os drive to the raid, versus re-install and rebuilding of the server
[00:51] <utfans05> well shit.. apparently there isnt one... lol
[00:51] <utfans05> p7ank5te7: you can install both drives and then move the data to them.
[00:52] <p7ank5te7> lol.. so my best bet in the world is to say f-it and just reinstall from scratch and rebuild?
[00:52] <utfans05> p7ank5te7: basically install a new linux image and then move over the data that you need onto those drives
[00:53] <mchlbhm> I wonder if reinstalling ubuntu would fix my wifi woes
[00:53] <utfans05> mchlbhm: possibly, whats goign on with them?
[00:53] <hfase> dd & mdadm but it would be no fun
[00:54] <Dr_Willis> allanx0:  apt-get should not have touched the permissions of your users home at all.. i think somting else goofed it up
[00:55] <mchlbhm> utfans05: dropping connection and not being able to browse web pages. I typed sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart but that only fixed it for a few minutes.
[00:55] <utfans05> mchlbhm: how good is your wireless signal, i ran into an issue where i wasnt getting a solid connection and that was the issue
[00:55] <p7ank5te7> Thanks utfans05 :)
[00:55] <KI4RO> .
[00:56] <utfans05> p7ank5te7: anytime!
[00:56] <mchlbhm> utfans05, it started after I switched from unity to gnome if that means anything lol
[00:56] <mchlbhm> utfans05, strong signal
[00:56] <utfans05> mchlbhm: is it different wireless managers between the 2? im unsure if its the same or not
[00:56] <KI4RO> I have a Toshiba A135 Satellite.  It seems to work okay but it does not seem to know which graphics card I am using
[00:57] <mchlbhm> utfans05, neither am I.
[00:57] <mchlbhm> utfans05, I wish I could google it. lol
[00:57] <utfans05> mchlbhm: i will give me a second
[00:58] <mchlbhm> utfans05, Thank you
[00:59] <hfase> lynx is great for terminal googling
[00:59] <utfans05> mchlbhm: why dont you try wicd, thats an alternative thats out there and it could correct the issue. withing knowing what the exact issue its a shot in the dark
[00:59] <wilee-nilee> mchlbhm, with earlier releases if you changed desktops, and did not have the network manager set to auto connect with all users problems could happen.
[00:59] <subcool> oK- am really bad with google< i cant find a thing on how to recreate this raid0
[01:00] <kunji> Does anyone know the command to blank the monitor (like what is done in powersaving only to do it manually)?
[01:00] <utfans05> subcool: your trying to recreate it? i didnt get the original question you had.
[01:01] <mchlbhm> utfans05, what is the network tool? it showsnetwork device as ethernet interface
[01:01] <subcool> utfans05, yeah<
[01:01] <natural> hey guys, i have a problem, how do I set up my settings so that my keyboard doesnt wakeup the computer from suspend, that the power button will wake it up, or the 'open lid' action will wake it up.
[01:01] <utfans05> mchlbhm: so you trying to use wireless or wired
[01:01] <mchlbhm> utfans05, wireless
[01:02] <natural> i have ubuntu 13.04
[01:02] <utfans05> mchlbhm: wicd is a wireless manager that might fix your issue
[01:02] <mchlbhm> utfans05,  how do i get that?
[01:03] <kunji> nvm, sorry guys found it, but it would have been mighty hard to find if I didn't remember it might be possible with xset
[01:03] <utfans05> mchlbhm: apt-get install wicd
[01:04] <FloodBot1> !netsplit
[01:05] <natural> hey guys, i have a problem, how do I set up my settings so that my keyboard doesnt wakeup the computer from suspend, that the power button will wake it up, or the 'open lid' action will wake it up.  i'm using 13.04 64bit.
[01:06] <utfans05> natural: have you done any google searching?
[01:06] <natural> yeah utfans05 i cant find it, what words do you suggest?
[01:07] <mchlbhm> utfans05, Unable to locate package
[01:07] <utfans05> natural: give me a minute and let me do some searching, although i believe if you go under system settings you may be able to find it
[01:08] <natural> thanks utfans05 i will look into system settings
[01:08] <Dr_Willis> natural:  i was thinking - ive seen bios settings for that also. but  it most likely depends on the laptop :)
[01:08] <SunStar> in xfce Settings Editor; What is "autotablet" option for?
[01:09] <natural> yeah if it is that complicated, i'll jmust unplug my ke4yboard and close the lid, tht'll keepo it asleep
[01:09] <natural> utfans05,  ^^
[01:09] <hgri89> I was thinking bios settings also, check to see if your bios has USB keybord emulation enabled?
[01:10] <natural> hgri89, emulation?
[01:10] <natural> hgri89, do you mean legacy?
[01:10] <Dr_Willis> SunStar:  automatically run a command when a tblet is pluged in perhaps ---> http://tillamookrage.blogspot.com/2008/01/give-xfce-autoplay-automount.html
[01:10] <hgri89> yeah legasy
[01:11] <natural> hgri89, you know i'm trying to get the keyboard to disable during sleep, so the only thing thatwill wake it up is the open lid, or the powerbutton.
[01:11] <mkk> xrandr --output LVDS-1 --off ; this command works on command line, but when i create a bash startup script it doesn't do the job. can someone help me with this please?
[01:11] <utfans05> natural: yeah that should be in the bios
[01:11] <natural> ok, i'll check the bios, thanks again.
[01:11] <utfans05> mkk: have you set that script to run at startup?
[01:11] <SunStar> trying to figure out how to have the mouse auto-hide
[01:12] <utfans05> SunStar: that should be in your mouse settings
[01:12] <KI4RO> .
[01:12] <utfans05> SunStar: actually no, gime a sec
[01:12] <SunStar> nothing in there to have the mouse hide. just to hide cursor when typing or disable touch when typing
[01:12] <bindi> does my internet or freenode suck? disconencted 5 times past 24h
[01:12] <utfans05> SunStar: oh.... thats different from autohiding the mouse
[01:13] <Dr_Willis> bindi:  freenode is having issues right now
[01:13] <Neldogz> Hey All, I have a dual boot system with WIndows 7 and Ubuntu 13.04. I have a fake raid 1 which Windows sees but Ubuntu sees this as individual drives. Is there a way to enable this functionality in Ubuntu?
[01:13] <mkk> utfans05: i put that command in .bashrc  but it doesn't run at startup
[01:13] <Dr_Willis> mkk:  that would make the command run every time you open a shell.. that may not be what you want
[01:13] <bindi> Dr_Willis: ok, good to know. sorry for offtopic
[01:14] <SunStar> well some 1 else brough up a good point i've been pushing aside untill now.  on a kiosk machine, how to you hide the mouse untill its in use, then immediately hide it again after use
[01:14] <mchlbhm> utfans05, Thank you for your time. I'll come back later when things calm down a little
[01:14] <utfans05> mkk: .bashrc is  ~/.bashrc: executed by bash(1) for non-login shells.
[01:14] <mkk> Dr_Willis: what should i do do you think?
[01:14] <gueriLLaPunK> im trying to setup PPTP VPN server on my box... and i looked through the var/log/syslog
[01:14] <gueriLLaPunK> and this is what i got
[01:14] <gueriLLaPunK> http://pastie.org/7896990
[01:15] <Dr_Willis> mkk:  theres the  ~/.config/autostart/ directroy for running things when the user logs into th edesktop
[01:15] <utfans05> SunStar: install unclutter
[01:15] <Dr_Willis> !find unclutter
[01:15] <Dr_Willis> !info unclutter
[01:15] <th0r> mkk, used to be ~/.profile I think, but I don't know if ubuntu still recognizes it
[01:16] <SunStar> thanks!
[01:16] <mkk> thanks Dr_Willis i'll try that.
[01:16] <utfans05> anytime
[01:18] <hgri89> I hae a macbook pro 9,1 tripple booting with Osx 10.8.3, windows 7 and UBUNTU 13.04. Ubuntu is installed in EFI mode and now UBUNTU stalls when it is starting it just shows the ubuntu name with the dots as though its starting up but never moves, it does however boot recoverymode just fine.... any ideas why it may be stalling?
[01:19] <hgri89> it is pretty much a fresh install with NVIDIA drivers
[01:21] <hgri89> it booted well for the first few times after the driers were installed then it had a hissy at me
[01:21] <utfans05> hgri89: sounds like it may be throwing an error somewhere, you might want to check in your logs
[01:22] <michael87> has anyone figured out how to get mupen64 to work. it is a pain in my ass since project64 keeps slowwing down. tryying to help a friend to whom I gave linux to also
[01:26] <Dr_Willis> tried  http://code.google.com/p/mupen64plus/ ?
[01:27] <Dr_Willis> still dosent look like its been updated in almost a year.
[01:30] <subman> When I get to the login screen, I have quite a few desktop environments installed.  I cannot seem to scroll them though.  I can only see a few of them.  Is this a bug?
[01:30] <XHEART24> is ubuntu 13 safe?
[01:31] <subman> XHEART24, ubuntu what?
[01:31] <XHEART24> the os
[01:31] <Dr_Willis> subman:  you could move ones you dont use to some backup dir. or try gdm - it may show them all
[01:31] <XHEART24> i havw 12.04
[01:31] <Dr_Willis> XHEART24:  why would you think its not safe?
[01:31] <utfans05> XHEART24: what do you is it safe?
[01:31] <utfans05> what do you mean...**
[01:31] <subman> Dr_Willis, how to change to gdm?
[01:31] <wilee-nilee> hgri89, Not my area in general, but people will get drivers from nvidia and not know that kernel changes can make them not work, not sure if this is relevent.
[01:31] <XHEART24> in the beginning always many bugs
[01:32] <Dr_Willis> subman:  sudo apt-get install gdm
[01:32] <michael87> Is there a step by step guide for mupen64plus? I need help seriously. I'd ask python but their room won't let me in.
[01:32] <subman> thanks Dr_Willis
[01:32] <Dr_Willis> XHEART24:  define what you mean by 'safe'
[01:32] <XHEART24> not crashing
[01:32] <Dr_Willis> michael87:  that url i posted for mupen64plus has the code and may have some guides.
[01:33] <Dr_Willis> michael87:  i dont seew how its python related.
[01:36] <michael87> Dr_Willis, I am tryying to find the guide and no dice. All the parts on here are TAR balls XD. I hate tar at this point
[01:37] <Dr_Willis> michael87:  search for a ppa.
[01:37] <Dr_Willis> or compile from source.
[01:38] <leptone> can some one link me to an article for installing and setting tor on 12.04
[01:39] <michael87> Dr_Willis, I'm on the mupenpage64. just found out they had a chat channel
[01:39] <utfans05> !find tor
[01:39] <utfans05> https://www.torproject.org/docs/debian
[01:41] <subcool> can someone help me recreate a raid 0-
[01:41] <subcool> i almost just formated my raid messing with this
[01:41] <WXZ> is there a "switch to desktop" launcher, which does what ctrl+super+d does?
[01:44] <Dr_Willis> theres a ubuntu tor wiki page
[01:44] <Dr_Willis> !tor
[01:44] <Dr_Willis> night all
[01:46] <brute`> just loaded 13.04 on my core i7 imac. video seems a bit jerky with the stock ati driver
[01:46] <brute`> any suggestions?
[01:46] <mdfe> brute - software updater, drivers tab, load new driver
[01:47] <mdfe> brute`, sorry should have pressed tab, see above comment
[01:47] <brute`> mdfe,  let me give that a try now, thanks
[01:51] <harrisr> my  built in mic is very weak why
[01:52] <harrisr> my  built in mic is very weak why
[01:52] <Ben66> !patience | harrisr
[01:53] <SonikkuAmerica> !details | harrisr
[01:54] <harrisr> SonikkuAmerica, when i was video chatting with my dad he said my mic was very low and he couldnt hear me
[01:56] <SonikkuAmerica> harrisr: Did you check in System Settings > Sound? And what were you using to video chat?
[01:56] <yofun> how do i check my cpu  info on ubuntu 13.04
[01:56] <yofun> ?
[01:56] <gustav___> yofun: cat /proc/cpuinfo
[01:57] <SpArTaKo> libowncloudsync0
[01:59] <linuxnewb2> I was able to get a Belkin 750n DB adapter to work
[01:59] <harrisr> i am using empathy
[01:59] <linuxnewb2> first time in over a year.
[01:59] <linuxnewb2> I'm so happy!
[02:00] <linuxnewb2> Random guy on a forum uploaded a driver, don't you love when that happens
[02:00] <Neptu> hej , Im trying to mount an SD card from my android phone I get this http://ideone.com/kCHqWY over dmesg but i cannot mount sg2 or sg3 any ideas?
[02:01] <natural> has anyone looked into why 13.04 isnt sleeping correctly?
[02:01] <Neptu> i mean should be a simple mount...
[02:06] <kunji> natural: It sleeps fine on my machine, sleep seems to always have had changing problems on different hardware -_-
[02:07] <spackalacka> wow, there are 1500 nicks in here
[02:07] <natural> kunji, it sleeps great in 12.10  but it wont stay asleep on my machine, i'm going to try resintallation
[02:07] <Saturn2888> Hi all! I'm having trouble upgrading the apps on my Ubuntu 12.10 server. There seems to be some kinda issue w/ aptitude and grub: http://pastebin.com/tuakWRC1
[02:08] <spackalacka> can someone tell me where to get help for a nonresponding mouse cursor in 10.04?
[02:08] <spackalacka> nothing related in dmesg
[02:08] <spackalacka> i connected a 2nd monitor and used the nvidia tool to enable it
[02:09] <subcool> anyone raid0 help
[02:09] <spackalacka> and i got an error which i didn't remember
[02:09] <spackalacka> so i closed the autoconfig and the mouse stopped responding
[02:09] <spackalacka> it still works at the login screen, but 2 seconds after login it freezes
[02:09] <spackalacka> keyboard still works
[02:09] <spackalacka> is this even a good place to get help on this?
[02:10] <subcool> spackalacka, im hving hte same issue
[02:10] <subcool> i hvae no diea
[02:10] <subcool> but my keyboard doesnt work
[02:10] <subcool> i gave up and remote in-
[02:11] <spackalacka> hmm
[02:11] <spackalacka> i even deleted my xconfig
[02:11] <spackalacka> and regenerated a new one
[02:11] <spackalacka> somehow i affected my mouse settings
[02:11] <spackalacka> i don't know where those are stored
[02:12] <harrisr> is there a website that test the stregth of microphone
[02:12] <subcool> spackalacka, i have no clue..
[02:14] <spackalacka> just restaredjust restare12
[02:15] <spackalacka> i restarted x
[02:15] <subcool> thats not gonna do it
[02:15] <spackalacka> i restarted everything too, even though that shouldn't be necessary
[02:16] <spackalacka> the only thing that should require a restart is a kernel change :p
[02:16] <Saturn2888> Hi all! I'm having trouble using apt-get dist-upgrade on Ubuntu 12.04 server. There seems to be some kinda issue w/ aptitude and grub dependencies: http://pastebin.com/tuakWRC1 Do you know what might be causing this and maybe how I can figure out a fix?
[02:16] <brute`> mdfe, under additional drivers i see 3 options
[02:16] <spackalacka> Saturn2888: i could maybe help if i could get my mouse to work
[02:16] <brute`> open source, and two proprietary
[02:16] <mdfe> didn't redhat do a patch to allow the kernel to be replaced without a reboot?what was it called?
[02:16] <brute`> one is from fglrx and one is from fglrx-updates
[02:17] <Saturn2888> spackalacka: ok!
[02:17] <spackalacka> what's the daemon called that controls the mouse in gnome?
[02:19] <kunji> natural: Yeah, that's what I mean by changing, each release it seems like sleep may have broken or have started working for any given machine, Though it does seem to work more often than not these days.  Good luck with the reinstall, not sure if it will help or not.
[02:19] <SonikkuAmerica> spackalacka: I think it's moused but I'm not sure...
[02:20] <natural> yeah, i'm debating whether or not to do it kunji, i think i will just wait for mint to put out the mint 15
[02:20] <harrisr> can't click allow on adobe flash player in ubuntu
[02:21] <harrisr> can't click allow on adobe flash player in ubuntu
[02:21] <heyman> How do I upload files to a website and download them using wget? I can't seem to mount my cd rw or have my ubuntu vm recognize my flash drive and I need to get some work done!
[02:22] <natural> it realy caught me by surprise, it has alwaysed worked for me on this machine
[02:22] <kunji> spackalacka: Sounds like a tough one.. I don't think I've ever had the mouse stop working without having absolutely everything GUI related stop working as well.  Closest I've has is disabling the touchpad on a laptop.
[02:22] <spackalacka> this is a laptop
[02:22] <harrisr> SonikkuAmerica,
[02:22] <spackalacka> lemme test with an external mouse
[02:22] <spackalacka> good point
[02:23] <heyman> How do I upload files to a website and download them using wget? I can't seem to mount my cd rw or have my ubuntu vm recognize my flash drive and I need to get some work done!
[02:23] <spackalacka> heyman: wget www.urltowhatyouwanttodownload.com/files.zip
[02:24] <mdfe> spackalacka, i had trackpad fail to be detected, had to copy/paste into x config
[02:24] <heyman> spackalacka, so I can upload to dropbox?
[02:24] <mdfe> spackalacka, give me a sec to find the file again
[02:24] <spackalacka> heyman: don't think you can wget from dropbox
[02:24] <spackalacka> but there is a dropbox daemon for ubuntu
[02:24] <spackalacka> get it from the dropbox website
[02:24] <heyman> k
[02:24] <kunji> heyman: Does wget upload, I mean if the site doesn't specifically support that method?  Maybe curl will work better for you?  Though I am not very familiar with either tool.
[02:24] <heyman> thanks
[02:24] <spackalacka> kunji: usb mouse does work
[02:24] <mdfe> why would you wget from dropbox?
[02:25] <spackalacka> why the hell did my trackpad suddenly fail
[02:25] <spackalacka> something in my xconfig must have changed
[02:25] <mdfe> spackalacka, 1 sec
[02:25] <spackalacka> k
[02:26] <kunji> spackalacka: Hmm, no idea, there's a setting for it in the Ubuntu settings thing, maybe see if it's disabled.  Maybe they use xset to change these things on the backend?
[02:29] <mdfe> spackalacka, i had the problem i stuck this in my xorg http://pastebin.com/Jd4B1UGA
[02:30] <spackalacka> mdfe: interesting
[02:30] <spackalacka> i'll give it a whirl
[02:30] <heyman> kunji, I have files on a flash drive that I need to get on my VM, I'm having difficulties mounting, so I was hoping i can download from a website as an alternative
[02:31] <heyman> spackalacka, do you know of any dropbox alternatives?
[02:31] <mdfe> heyman, is this gui or headless?
[02:31] <spackalacka> heyman: email them to yourself?
[02:31] <heyman> #/join wget
[02:32] <heyman> spackalacka, I have ubuntu server and only cli, I wouldn't be able to wget from that
[02:32] <spackalacka> ubuntu is inside the VM?
[02:32] <heyman> mdfe, its headless
[02:32] <mdfe> can try curl if wget doesnt work
[02:32] <heyman> spackalacka, it is the VM
[02:33] <heyman> mdfe, I need a website to host my files. I don't know where to put them and download easily
[02:34] <mdfe> heyman, ubuntuone?
[02:34] <SonikkuAmerica> !one
[02:34] <heyman> mdfe, would I be able to curl or wget from that? won't I have to do login stuff?
[02:35] <SonikkuAmerica> heyman: You can get the Ubuntu One client: [ sudo apt-get install ubuntu-one
[02:35] <mdfe> heyman, well you can upload them onto U-one from your desktop machine, then share the file via a web link
[02:35] <SonikkuAmerica> ]
[02:35] <heyman> thanks to everyone, I will give that a shot. I think that will work :)
[02:41] <iFlip> I have two NIC's on my machine - how do I ping <IP_ADDRESS> using eth1 instead on eth0 - I want to ensure that eth1 cannot access the Internet and eth0 can access the Internet.
[02:42] <rusty0101> iFlip: 'ping -I eth1 <IP_ADDRESS>' should do the trick.
[02:42] <mdfe> err i think <IP_ADDRESS> *is* internet
[02:42] <pobri19> Hi all. I'm booted into a live USB to try and recover data on an old linux install on /dev/sdg6, but when I mount /dev/sdg6 I can't access the data in my home dir, theres a file called 'Access-Your-Private-Data.desktop'. I think it's encrypted? Any idea how I can get access to the data? I know my passwords.
[02:43] <iFlip> rusty0101 perfect thanks!
[02:43] <rusty0101> iFlip: no problem.
[02:43] <iFlip> rusty0101 yes that did it. Perfect thank you
[02:46] <rusty0101> iFlip: You can also use the 'route' command to see what interfaces have a default route defined.
[02:46] <Jordan_U> pobri19: If you google "ecryptfs home liveCD" you should find a good guide from the main developer of ecryptfs on how to do this (if I could browse properly myself at the moment I'd give you a direct link).
[02:46] <spackalacka> hmm, mdfe, those settings weren't parsed right
[02:46] <spackalacka> i hda to revert to an old config
[02:46] <spackalacka> which i think is older than when my mouse stopped working
[02:46] <pobri19> Jordan_U: thanks, I'll have a look
[02:46] <spackalacka> so i should be back to square one
[02:46] <spackalacka> but i'm not
[02:46] <prophit> I'm trying to 'sudo python setup.py install' the JPype Python library and have the build-essential package installed, but Python seems to think 'gcc' is mapped to 'x86_64-linux-gnu-gcc' and so I get error: command 'x86_64-linux-gnu-gcc' failed with exit status 1.. any ideas?
[02:47] <iFlip> rusty0101 Good thinking. I want to make sure that eth0 can access Internet and eth1 is only access from within my local net. But I'm nervous now that eth1 is conflicting with eth0.
[02:47] <spackalacka> yeah, this xconfig is from when i first set up the computer
[02:47] <spackalacka> it should be legit
[02:48] <spackalacka> something else must be at play here
[02:48] <spackalacka> ...
[02:48] <iFlip> I wanted eth1 to be used primarily for SSH and remote desktop while eth0 was used for managing my database on the Internet.
[02:50] <neekz0r> iflip: set the default route through eth0
[02:51] <neekz0r> iFlip: if you want to make double sure eth1 never accesses the internet, set up  an ip tables rule :)
[02:51] <Jordan_U> pobri19: You're welcome.
[02:54] <diiphantom> what is the best way to play youtube? flash?
[02:54] <jordan4ibanez> Oh gosh, I installed 68GB of games.
[02:54] <jordan4ibanez> I started with Sauerbraten, what happened? D:
[02:55] <pobri19> I followed the instructions here: http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/ubuntu-mounting-your-encrypted-home-from-livecd/ but I get an error 'open: Permission denied Error locking counter' when I run ecryptfs-mount-private :|
[02:57] <coded1> how do I restrict a user from traversing mounted drives in /media?
[02:57] <Jordan_U> pobri19: http://blog.dustinkirkland.com/2011/04/introducing-ecryptfs-recover-private.html is a better site (though I don't know that it will solve the problem you're having).
[02:58] <Jordan_U> pobri19: If that doesn't work, try joining #ecryptfs on irc.oftc.net.
[03:06] <rabelais> I'm in lucid, does anyone know why the xinput argument "coordinate tranformation matrix" is not being respected even though it is set? I am trying to scale the transformation for a tablet and it is having no effect. The argument has no effect on my mouse either if I try it on that
[03:07] <rosco_y> What is "Raring Ringtail"?
[03:07] <wilee-nilee> rabelais, Your aware the desktop is end of life?
[03:07] <Noskcaj> !13.04 | rosco_y
[03:07] <SonikkuAmerica> rosco_y: The dev codename for Ubuntu 13.04. :)
[03:08] <friedg> nah desktop is fine
[03:08] <friedg> just fewer people buying hardware
[03:08] <jordan4ibanez> I wonder if there is a supertuxkart IRC.
[03:08] <wilee-nilee> friedg, Lucid desktop is end of life, not supported.
[03:09] <friedg> oh ok, i just joined
[03:09] <friedg> didnt see the rest of the convo
[03:09] <rosco_y> Noskcaj: ty.  I thought it was an additional CD I needed to download, if I wanted to install it.
[03:09] <SonikkuAmerica> friedg: Sad but true.
[03:09] <melow01> I was setting up Wordpress on localhost on Ubuntu, deleted some users in MySQL and now Chrome won't start... any thoughts?
[03:10] <rosco_y> has anyone moved up to 13.04, and either regrets the move, or thinks it's the best thing since ____ ____
[03:10] <SonikkuAmerica> !poll | rosco_y: Best since Lucid here on Kubuntu..., but
[03:10] <Dexi> Guys am I doing something wrong or is nickserv offline?
[03:11] <SonikkuAmerica> Dexi: You're all good AFAIk
[03:11] <SonikkuAmerica> Dexi: Are you using Quassel?
[03:11] <kostkon_> melow01, coincidental? try running it in the terminal and check for any error messages etc
[03:11] <melow01> Dexi, usually I get a prompt to login but I didn't today... odd
[03:12] <rabelais> wilee-nilee: sad, you're right...apparently that parameter is only available on xserver versions 1.8 or later and apparently lucid is holding strong on 1.7.5
[03:12] <wilee-nilee> Dexi, The IRC had some problems earlier, seems okay from my end now.
[03:12] <melow01> kostkon, never used it from the terminal but I'll tinker...
[03:12] <rosco_y> SonikkuAmerica: ty, I'll back off on seeking out opinions..  I've been running LTS, but have recently become disenchanted with it, and am trying to determine if I'd be doing the right thing by upgrading.....
[03:13] <SonikkuAmerica> rosco_y: If you like upgrading every 6 moths and having the latest stuff...
[03:13] <melow01> kostkon, I think I may have deleted the user for my hostname
[03:13] <SonikkuAmerica> rosco_y: And bees and butterfiles while we're at it :)
[03:13] <melow01> kostkon, I didn't realize Chrome used MySQL but I suppose I should'v'e known...
[03:13] <rosco_y> SonikkuAmerica: I really have enjoyed how solid LTS has been, but a recent kernel update has my cpu begging for mercy now
[03:14] <kostkon_> melow01, oh. interesting
[03:14] <rosco_y> I'm sure it'll be fixed eventually, but right now it's pretty frustrating
[03:14] <root> lawl im user root on freenode
[03:14] <rosco_y> so I'm trying to "look before I leap"
[03:15] <friedg> someone should make a bot that scans wikipedia for the answer to everything
[03:15] <rosco_y> maybe I should be patient for a couple of weeks or more.  And again, maybe it's time to move on
[03:15] <SonikkuAmerica> rosco_y: Move on?
[03:15] <melow01> kostkon, I deleted SingltonLock and when I launched Chrome, it recreated a new SingletonLock symlinked to another hostname
[03:15] <rosco_y> SonikkuAmerica: from 12.04 to 13.04 (I wasn't a fan of 12.10
[03:16] <SonikkuAmerica> rosco_y: Kubuntu's default layout in 12.XX was atrocious. 13.04 is quieter, more energetic.
[03:17] <rosco_y> SonikkuAmerica: can you explain that a bit?
[03:17] <melow01> So, if I deleted some users in MySQL, should I be concerned that I'll run into more issues with Ubuntu?
[03:18] <SonikkuAmerica> rosco_y: Check this first of all: http://i1-news.softpedia-static.com/images/news2/Kubuntu-12-04-LTS-Screenshot-Tour-2.jpg <<< So gloomy, so gray....
[03:18] <rosco_y> I have read people's opinions reporting 13.04 to be rather solid
[03:18] <rosco_y> SonikkuAmerica: ty!
[03:19] <rosco_y> wait, that's just a picture of a desktop, what's the point?
[03:19] <SonikkuAmerica> The new Kubuntu 13.04 wallpaper: http://ubuntuone.com/3W0R4FhzKMC8aECIj3QD1O <<< Comforting, energy-emitting (don't turn the carbon tax people loose on me)
[03:19] <SonikkuAmerica> rosco_y: It's just a compare-and-contrast I'm doing. What are you really looking for?
[03:20] <bleemoo> Has network printing gone away in 13.04? My computer is no longer able to connect to my networked printer, and there does not appear to be any way for me to add it manually.
[03:20] <thufir_> is this a password problem with firefox sync?  I reset the password, but the sync log still shows errors:  http://pastebin.com/M45AjprD
[03:20] <SonikkuAmerica> bleemoo: Hit Alt-F2 and type [ system-config-printer ].
[03:21] <rosco_y> SonikkuAmerica: :) Right now my problem is that a number of my processes seem to go into a "disk sleep" state, putting a processor into a 100% used state.
[03:21] <rosco_y> I'm thinking of upgrading to get back my performance, but I don't want to upgrade into a really unstable environment
[03:22] <rosco_y> I'm trying to finish a project, so it's a double-edged knife, as they say
[03:22] <SonikkuAmerica> rosco_y: The heuristic we measure by is as follows: Once a release hits the main repos (usually on April 25th for XX.04 or October 25th for XX.10), it's stable. End of story.
[03:23] <rosco_y> on the one hand, I'd like to upgrade ot see if the CPU problems go away, on the other, I don't want to get into a situation where I have to reboot three times a day to keep the system going.
[03:23] <SonikkuAmerica> rosco_y: You can run [ do-release-upgrade ] with no arguments until it says "No new release found" and you'll know you have the latest stable version.
[03:23] <SonikkuAmerica> rosco_y: You can run [ do-release-upgrade ] with no arguments until it says "No new release found" and you'll know you have the latest stable version.
[03:24] <rosco_y> SonikkuAmerica: right now I'm running 12.04 LTS, I was under the impression that this would be likely to be stable, and it has, but now I'm thinking of upgrading
[03:25] <SonikkuAmerica> 13.04 is much faster; what's your CPU?
[03:26] <rosco_y> It's an AMD ~3.2Gz dual processor of some sort or another....I don't know exactly
[03:26] <rosco_y> I've got 8 gb RAM.
[03:26] <rosco_y> it's been really sweet for what I do...
[03:27] <rosco_y> a recent kernel update has a problem in it, (in my opinnion), and I've read some on the net related to the type of problem I'm having
[03:27] <SonikkuAmerica> rosco_y: I see. I hate to break the convo, but it's 11:30 PM here. Gotta go!
[03:27] <rosco_y> SonikkuAmerica: have a good one--Thanks!
[03:30] <James_Epp> I am having the most terrible time trying to mount an iso atm: sudo mount -o loop -t iso9660 ubuntu.iso (abbreviated here, i386 desktop 12.04)
[03:31] <DarwinSurvivor> James_Epp: are you getting an error?
[03:32] <James_Epp> first I did sudo su, navigated to the directory containing the .iso, and performed mount -o loop -t iso9660 ubuntu.iso /mnt/ubuntu and I get mount: wrong fs type, bad operation, bad superblock on /dev/loop1, missing codepage or helper program, or other error
[03:33] <SmallFry> ugh
[03:33] <leptone> i cant register with the nickserv...
[03:33] <leptone> whats going on?
[03:33] <SmallFry> nickserv had some troubles earlier
[03:33] <SmallFry> the entire Freenode Chanserv and nickserv went down
[03:33] <James_Epp> leptone: Sometimes when I reboot my machines it resolves it. timeouts of some kind on all my devices.
[03:34] <James_Epp> DarwinSurvivor: I am wondering if it is that I am using the wrong filetype? Perhaps the filesystem I am specifying is incorrect? I believe it was correct for older versions of ubuntu in 9/10
[03:35] <yofun|2> how would i mount a ftp server as a folder?
[03:35] <yofun|2> like /home/yofun/ftp
[03:35] <James_Epp> ^^I would want the answer to this query as well---been bugging me 5ever.
[03:38] <James_Epp> Does anyone know what the filetype is for the ubuntu 12.04 desktop i386 iso? Apparently it is not iso9660
[03:38] <lacy> umm...
[03:38] <yofun> James_Epp:  what do you mean?
[03:38] <yofun> rhe name of the file?
[03:38] <James_Epp> mount -o loop -t iso9660 ubuntu.iso /mnt/ubuntu Does not work.
[03:39] <yofun> ah
[03:39] <James_Epp> The only difference in this screenshot is the use of temp.iso instead of ubuntu.iso
[03:39] <SmallFry> hm. when you guys finish with james' problem, I've got a thing to tinker with also
[03:39] <James_Epp> http://i.imgur.com/fBlATYz.png
[03:41] <sudokode> James_Epp: file temp.iso
[03:41] <James_Epp> The first bit there is me being n00b and not having a directory in the first place :P
[03:41] <sudokode> (that's a command)
[03:41] <James_Epp> temp.iso = ubuntu 12.04 desktop i386.iso
[03:41] <sudokode> well, substitute the name. do whatever
[03:41] <James_Epp> sudokode: output is temp.iso: data
[03:41] <amarcolino> just decided to grep my syslog to look at allowed connection and found the ip <IP_ADDRESS> supposedly belonging to Edinburgh University local area network, just wondering why I am recieving packets from this ip and whether I should be worried?
[03:41] <sudokode> hm. that doesn't surprise me. let me check something..
[03:41] <James_Epp> TY in advance.
[03:41] <sudokode> ah yes. data.. x86 boot sector...
[03:41] <sudokode> not gonna get much out of file magic apparently
[03:42] <yofun> how would i mount a ftp server as a folder?
[03:42] <yofun> like /home/yofun/ftp
[03:42] <sudokode> anyway, I assume it actually is an iso9660 file
[03:42] <James_Epp> Nevermind my issue. I have an alternative I will cook up. Can we talk about yofun's?
[03:43] <sudokode> yofun: I'm gonna take a wild guess and say there's an ftpfs fuse module
[03:43] <sudokode> but that's simply because everything has a fuse module
[03:43] <James_Epp> yofun: sudokode: I have tinkered with it myself, but never figured it out.
[03:43] <sudokode> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FTPFS
[03:44] <sudokode> I've heard of sshfs and sftp, so that doesn't surprise me
[03:44] <James_Epp> As for commands, it has always bugged me >.<
[03:45] <sudokode> I assume you just need to install the proper package to get the stuff for fuse and then mount <host> /mnt
[03:45] <sudokode> there may be a different syntax there. I'm sure google knows it
[03:45] <sudokode> may need -t ftpfs or some such
[03:46] <yofun> http://hartvig.de/2009/howto-mount-a-ftp-drive-in-ubuntu/ ?
[03:46] <yofun> might work
[03:46] <sudokode> that sounds about right
[03:46] <sudokode> says 2009, so may not work as expected, but it's worth a try
[03:46] <thufir_> how do you know why a sync failed?  all I see is that it will try again after trying to obtain lock.  http://askubuntu.com/questions/294222/firefox-aboutsync-log-gives-error-sync-failed
[03:47] <James_Epp> sudokode: Do you know how to edit the config files so the mount occurs on reboot?
[03:47] <sudokode> thufir_:  Exception: Could not acquire lock. Label: "service.js: sync". No traceback available
[03:47] <sudokode> that's probably a good start
[03:47] <sudokode> maybe delete that file if you're sure there's not a sync currently taking place
[03:48] <sudokode> or rather, find the lock file and delete that
[03:48] <sudokode> don't delete that actual file
[03:48] <sudokode> maybe I'll learn to read some day
[03:48] <thufir_> hmm
[03:49] <sudokode> but that seems to be where the sync borks
[03:49] <thufir_> is it possibe to see whether a sync is occuring?
[03:49] <sudokode> that file is locked by something
[03:49] <sudokode> not really. no doubt this is all internal to firefox besides what logs you can find
[03:49] <thufir_> which file is locked? can I use ps to see what's locking it?
[03:49] <sudokode> a lock file is pretty arbitrary
[03:50] <thufir_> maybe I'll just logout?  login again?
[03:50] <sudokode> umm. you might be able to, depending on how that happens
[03:50] <sudokode> no
[03:50] <sudokode> lsof service.js
[03:50] <sudokode> better yet, find the actual lock file
[03:50] <sudokode> (hint: it may be a dotfile)
[03:51] <thufir_> hidden .services.js in home/thufir/.mozilla/ somewhere, then run lof services.js on it?
[03:51] <sudokode> usually a lock file is something like /path/to/.foo.ext.lck
[03:52] <sudokode> it varies wildly
[03:52] <XMLnewbi> so I just checked my routher logs, im getting tons of errors, 	**SYN Flood** <IP_ADDRESS>, 59614->> <IP_ADDRESS>, 51413 (from WAN Outbound) looks like 6 errors a second
[03:53] <sudokode> but just doing lsof /path/to/service.js might give you some idea
[03:53] <XMLnewbi> can some one ddos and comcast DHCP residental connection? my internet has be insainly slow the last few days
[03:53] <sudokode> (the normal file in this case, not the lock file)
[03:54] <sudokode> someone can ddos anything.. the question is why would they ddos you
[03:54] <thufir_> sudokode: ok.  I'm still looking, but it gives me something to look into :)
[03:55] <sudokode> thufir_: find is useful in this case. always a good opportunity to learn how to use it
[03:55] <sudokode> perhaps find ~ -name service.js
[03:56] <thufir_> ah, I was trying locate
[03:56] <sudokode> locate is fine. as long as your db is updated
[03:57] <sudokode> it'll be faster, but you need to make sure everything is indexed beforehand
[03:57] <sudokode> find is probably more useful for situations like this
[03:58] <Aethysius> My printer isn't working with my system; the job gets sent to it, but then it disappears, and doesn't get printed.
[03:58] <sudokode> bad print driver perhaps?
[03:58] <sudokode> I hate cups. haaaatttteee it
[03:58] <Aethysius> Is there an alternative?
[03:58] <sudokode> not really
[03:59] <sudokode> best thing you can do is deal with cups and get an hp printer
[03:59] <sudokode> hp has been exceptional when it comes to producing linux drivers
[03:59] <Aethysius> I like my brother MFC.
[03:59] <sudokode> brother is nice too. nothing against them
[04:00] <sudokode> especially their laserjets
[04:00] <sudokode> they do have decent drivers
[04:00] <sudokode> but hp is still ahead of them in coverage, I'd say
[04:00] <sudokode> epson.. not too far behind...
[04:00] <sudokode> lexmark.. forget it
[04:01] <sudokode> anyway, so you have a brother mfc and your print jobs are just disappearing...
[04:02] <sudokode> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2101182
[04:02] <sudokode> anything like that?
[04:08] <yofun> btw it works :)
[04:09] <cjae> is one just better off getting vbox directly from oracle?
[04:09] <cjae> then repo
[04:10] <subcool> k- im back.
[04:10] <subcool> Is anyone famliar with RAID0? I need help recreating a raid0
[04:10] <subcool> im not getting very far with google, and i almost formatted it once already..
[04:12] <tekkbuzz> Got an apt-get upgrade question, every time I run "apt-get upgrade" I get this error/comment: The following packages have been kept back: linux-headers-generic linux-image-generic    Why are the kept back and does anyone know how to fix it?
[04:13] <chiluk> subcool... if it's an mdadm created raid look into mdadm --assemble --auto
[04:13] <tekkbuzz> Everything else upgrades fine.
[04:13] <bazhang> !dist-upgrade | tekkbuzz
[04:13] <chiluk> subcool, if it's a fakeraid intel ... then you won't find much help here... as that's before the OS
[04:14] <tekkbuzz> bazhang: I didnt do a dist-upgrade , just a normal one.
[04:15] <bazhang> tekkbuzz, thats what is needed
[04:15] <subcool> chiluk, i made this thing syears ago- i have no clue whats even on it anymore
[04:15] <subcool> chiluk, all i know is- that ther eis personal info on it i want off.
[04:16] <subcool> I remember making it in linux, it may be a fake raid- but i worked with someof the guys before and we gathered that it is an actice healyth raid0
[04:16] <chiluk> subcool if you don't know how you created the raid then frankly I can't help much
[04:16] <tekkbuzz> dang, I hate doing dist-upgrades until absolutely necessary , always have to many fixes to do afterwards.
[04:16] <subcool> aside from that- i don tknow how to mount it.. we've gotten a lil farther then before -- but..
[04:16] <chiluk> subcool run mdadm --detail /dev/md*
[04:16] <subcool> chiluk, it was 6-7 years ago
[04:16] <bazhang> tekkbuzz, its NOT a version upgrade
[04:17] <tekkbuzz> bazhang: no?
[04:17] <subcool> chiluk, its not coming up right now- ill mount it to md0 again, but it gets stuck
[04:17] <chiluk> what do you mean stuck?
[04:17] <bazhang> tekkbuzz, read what the bot said above. it just brings in those packages, nothing more
[04:18] <chiluk> subcool by that I assume you mean mount /dev/md0  /mnt/md0..
[04:18] <subcool> subcool@Media-subcool:~$ sudo mdadm -A -R /dev/md0 /dev/sdf1 /dev/sdg1
[04:18] <subcool> mdadm: /dev/md0 has been started with 2 drives.
[04:18] <tekkbuzz> bazhang: okay thanks, I'm a old fedora user coming into debian/ubuntu crowd.
[04:19] <chiluk> you might want to check to see if you created a partition table on md0.
[04:19] <chiluk> subcool try sudo fdisk /dev/md0
[04:19] <subcool> chiluk, http://paste.ubuntu.com/5656899
[04:20] <subcool> chiluk, im getting different results this time than i was before
[04:20] <chiluk> subcool, yeah sometimes my old hardware does that too.
[04:21] <subcool> fdisk came back with a - error.. kinda? Device contains neither a valid DOS partition table, nor Sun, SGI or OSF disklabel
[04:21] <subcool> Building a new DOS disklabel with disk identifier 0x1df0230c.
[04:21] <chiluk> no.
[04:21] <chiluk> don'tl
[04:21] <chiluk> you probably created a partition directly on the device.
[04:22] <chiluk> although mdadm -R is pretty much a force it to work kind of thing
[04:22] <chiluk> probably not what you want.
[04:23] <subcool> got me-
[04:23] <subcool> couple guys were helping, im super super noob to this
[04:23] <subcool> making this 7 years ago was my frist attempt and last
[04:23] <subcool> im just trying to recover what i can.
[04:23] <subcool> OMG- i mounted!!!
[04:24] <chiluk> get your stuff off as soon as possible.
[04:24] <chiluk> hopefully it's readable.
[04:24] <chiluk> in the future don't put anything on a raid 0 you can't live without.
[04:24] <chiluk> hard drives have just gotten more unreliable
[04:25] <casual_llama> I recently had a computer freeze where I could move my mouse, hear the sound from a YouTube clip I was watching, but otherwise everything was frozen.
[04:25] <subcool> chiluk, yea- i know..
[04:25] <casual_llama> I could not drop into a terminal with ctrl+alt+f2 and the like.
[04:25] <subcool> im not sure what i can get from it- i wasnt expecting it to mount
[04:25] <subcool> this is .. odd
[04:26] <casual_llama> Is there a way to recover from that sort of a freeze? I'm not sure what to do other than REISUB and hope my work is saved or remains recoverable.
[04:26] <subcool> i tihnk im locked out of it- im not allowed in the home folder
[04:26] <subcool> but- it says its about half full
[04:26] <chiluk> try sudo su -
[04:26] <chiluk> to be come root..
[04:26] <chiluk> and don't let anyone know I told you.
[04:27] <subcool> i know that command, im not that noobish
[04:27] <subcool> i just stray from things i dont know
[04:27] <subcool> but i need a gui on this
[04:27] <subcool> im running baobab now to check it out
[04:28] <chiluk> alright I'm going to sleep.. good luck.
[04:28] <subcool> crap
[04:28] <subcool> thanks
[04:28] <subcool> um- .
[04:28] <subcool> um
[04:28] <FloodBot1> subcool: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:28] <subcool> :p
[04:28] <subcool> any suggestions?
[04:28] <subcool> i can open dolphin from cli right?
[04:29] <hfase> try hitting ctrl alt f- somthing
[04:30] <subcool> :/
[04:31] <subcool> soemthing is certainly up-
[04:32] <chaita_> help
[04:32] <subcool> **throws lifesaver **
[04:33] <subcool> ok- this thing is being stupid, how do i open dolphin as root?
[04:34] <subcool> AHHh- i havent dont it in so long i forgot
[04:34] <subcool> how do i open a window manager as root
[04:36] <subcool> seriously? no one?
[04:37] <mk> subcool, Why?
[04:37] <subcool> i need to view and move something around
[04:37] <subcool> its only allowing me to view it as root
[04:38] <subcool> im not sure i want to chown the directory
[04:38] <mk> A file?
[04:38] <subcool> a ton of files
[04:38] <subcool> please
[04:38] <subcool> i know the dangers
[04:38] <subcool> gksu isnt working
[04:38] <FloodBot1> subcool: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:38] <mk> You know command line, bash atall?
[04:38] <subcool> a smdige
[04:38] <subcool> kdesudo?
[04:38] <mk> Just use bash, and sudo.
[04:38] <subcool> kdesudo worked...
[04:39] <mk> I don't really like the idea of you using a WM as root, but sudo startx is basically what you want. You gotta kill X first though.
[04:39] <subcool> nah- i dont wanna do that.
[04:39] <mk> Or you could kdesudo the FM
[04:39] <subcool> i just wanna move around as root
[04:40] <subcool> yea.. just got it
[04:40] <subcool> damn 90gig of stuff hidden
[04:42] <goddard> anyone use sublime text?
[04:54] <zeep> anyone else experiencing random graphical artifacts? like if an application was minimized or something (but nothing actually happened)
[04:55] <Komplex> not I
[04:55] <Komplex> running 13.04 stock vid drivers
[04:55] <kunji> zeep: That's an extremely generic question, it will have a lot to do with your graphics hardware and firmware.
[04:55] <zeep> using fglrx-updates
[04:56] <zeep> i'll see if i can catch a screenshot next time it happens
[04:56] <Komplex> i'm running ati btw - just fyi
[04:58] <Ari-Yang> zeep, fglrx is horrible
[04:58] <Ari-Yang> you're better off using open source drivers
[05:00] <zeep> i agree, but i get better 3d with the prop driver. although the radeon driver has improved a lot. i can play tf2 with decent fps
[05:01] <zeep> soon enough it'll be great enough for me to switch back
[05:01] <Ari-Yang> ah, I see.
[05:02] <quick-> Hi , i installed gnome3.9 on 12.04 LTS and my wifi and GUI aren't working . Please help.
[05:04] <zeep> 3.9?
[05:05] <quick-> zeep: ya
[05:05] <zeep> latest stable is 3.8
[05:05] <qin> quick-: not really certain if such errants are supported here, does xinit works?
[05:06] <zeep> is 3.8 going to the repos anytime soon?
[05:07] <quick-> zeep: i used a ppa .
[05:08] <quick-> qin:  I fixed it . Thank you . Now atleast unity is working :)
[05:08] <zeep> quick-,  i meant that 3.9 is probably alpha and is going to be buggy
[05:10] <hemangpatel> Morning
[05:10] <hemangpatel> finally got my first laptop lenovo t430u
[05:11] <quick-> zeep:  ya it is but the UI is awesome :)
[05:11] <hemangpatel> I want to install ubuntu 13.04. but it comes with UEFI.
[05:11] <hemangpatel> So, what's the recomandation ?
[05:11] <hemangpatel> is ubuntu support all drivers ?
[05:13] <zeep> quick-,  is it different than 3.8?
[05:13] <zeep> quick-, i also like gnome :)
[05:13] <Marlo> mirando
[05:13] <quick-> ya i haven't used 3.8  . So I can't say
[05:13] <quick-> zeep:  i haven't used 3.8  . So I can't say
[05:13] <zeep> ah ok
[05:14] <qin> quick-: is not 3.8 less buggy than 3.9 and looks tha same?
[05:15] <zeep> well 3.8 is the latest stable
[05:15] <zeep> released not too long ago
[05:15] <qin> only thingy annoying me, silly fonts size reverts on reboot...
[05:18] <wilee-nilee> !uefi | hemangpatel see this wiki
[05:18] <kunji> hemangpatel: I'm not familiar with that laptop, so I don't really know.  Should be installable on UEFI, though it might be a strugle.  On my MSI GX60 there was a legacy mode, so I haven't bothered trying hard for the UEFI install yet (the live USB would boot to a blank screen in UEFI boot mode).
[05:23] <kunji> wilee-nilee: in that page you linked, I don't think the part about the cases when Ubuntu must be installed in EFI mode are entirely accurate right?  Is that actually for being on the same disk rather than the same system, or if you want to use the same boot method?
[05:25] <wilee-nilee> kunji, Not sure to be honest I have not had to mess with a uefi. The options are attached to manufacturers having some different tweaks so it is a bit of test and find the working options.
[05:28] <kunji> wilee-nilee: Hmm, ok, because I have windows in UEFI, and Ubuntu in Legacy, I switch my BIOS between UEFI and Legacy boot modes to pick what I'm going to boot rather than doing it in GRUB.  I don't have issues with GPT vs. MBR for sure because my installs are on different drives.  This situation is technically contrary to what is in that paragraph, but I think most people will want to use GRUB to pick rather than editing the BIOS each time
[05:29] <capinjack> after an instal of deft7.2(Ubuntu / Lubuntu ) I'm getting an out of range signal on the monitor. I'vr tried following instructions to update the nvidia drivers without luck and would appreciate help
[05:29] <nightdemon666> indeed, ... does windows not boot at all in legacy mode?
[05:29] <wilee-nilee> kunji, I have not seen anyone having to edit the bios just to boot either OS.
[05:30] <Komplex> i'm to lazy to switch between em...  :P  grub ftw
[05:30] <nightdemon666> capinjack, it seems you will have to develop a custom xorg config file.
[05:30] <wilee-nilee> I believe there are chainloads two boot partitions in a uefi install I think
[05:30] <kunji> wilee-nilee: I do, well, it's the consequence of doing one Legacy and one UEFI boot, unless GRUB can go back to boot UEFI with the BIOS in Legacy mode.
[05:31] <Synthpop> any staff on i forgot my passwd
[05:31] <wilee-nilee> kunji, Makes me glad not have to mess with it, maybe sooner or later. ;)
[05:32] <wilee-nilee> Synthpop, #freenode can help you.
[05:32] <kunji> wilee-nilee: Well, that's how I'm in this situation, too lazy to get my UEFI install to work XD
[05:32] <capinjack> @nightdemon666, any advice on where to look for instructions on that?
[05:32] <kunji> wilee-nilee: I'll probably go after it after I finish my thesis, another 1-2 weeks I think.
[05:33] <nightdemon666> capinjack, im sure the great google can help provide direction on that, but in the end you will have to be prepared to work in the command line.
[05:34] <capinjack> I think I can access to the command line
[05:34] <nightdemon666> capinjack, what version of ubuntu are you running?
[05:35] <capinjack> nightdemon666, it's  Deft7.2 distro, the same thing happens with the latest (12.04?) of Ubuntu
[05:36] <kunji> With an out of range signal on the monitor?  Maybe using the rescue mode so the graphics never start?  He said Deft 7.2, might be a derivative?
[05:36] <capinjack> I'm trying the xfconfig now
[05:37] <nightdemon666> i must ask... whats the Deft distro?
[05:38] <nightdemon666> i could look it up, but im watching george carlin...
[05:38] <kunji> Oh, hmm, a forensics distro, interesting, but not supported here.  Latest Ubuntu is 13.04... since you're mixing that up with a version a year older... are you SURE it's the same?  Might want to actually bust out your Ubuntu copy if you want support here -_-
[05:39] <capinjack> Deft has forensics apps included
[05:39] <capinjack> Kunji, I can do that, I have it on another drive
[05:41] <kunji> capinjack: I wish I knew more about fixing the problem though, I'm unfortunately kinda useless on this one.  I just thought you should know the policy on support so that other people can help out.  In retrospect what I typed sounds a bit mean, sorry about that.
[05:43] <nightdemon666> i see... you will need to create a custon xorg config file from a distro that DOES have working monitor signals. what i do is, press ctrl+alt+F1. this puts me in a terminal that will work for this type of task. then i type sudo service (kdm, gdm, lxdm, lightdm [i dont know what desktop manager is running on the Deft Distro (youre goingot make me look all this up arent you???)]) stop. then sudo Xorg -configure
[05:44] <prince_jammys> he can echo /etc/init.d/*dm
[05:44] <nightdemon666> i will reiterate this better in a moment after i look up deft distro...
[05:44] <capinjack> no problem, kuji, I have a feeling the fix will be the same, so I learn, no biggy. On the Ubuntu drive I have an 8.1 distro, which can't be upgraded, the 13.04 fails back to that when left to boot from the hard drive. SO maybe I can create the xconfig there?
[05:45] <nightdemon666> capinjack, it looks like it uses lxdm as desktop manager no?
[05:46] <capinjack> that sounds familiar
[05:46] <capinjack> sorry, nightdemon, I switched gears to 'pure' Ubuntu to stay with the channel, same story with 13.04 and my hardware
[05:49] <nightdemon666> this is what i would do, i would run a live version of ubuntu on a flash drive. then i would type ctrl+alt+F2, then i would type sudo service lightdm stop. then type sudo Xorg -configure. the file should have ended up in the ubuntu home folder. it may be simpler to just re-enter graphical mode by typing sudo service lightdm start. then enter the home folder. mount your deft distro, and move the xorg.conf file from the
[05:50] <nightdemon666> oh, just saw what you typed a moment ago, same would or "should" apply to 13.04
[05:50] <capinjack> thanks, I'll give that a whirl
[05:52] <nightdemon666> conceptually, you can do this a number of different ways, but creating a "known working configuration" xorg.conf file and placing it into the /etc/X11 file folder of your distro failing to properly display, generally does the trick.
[05:55] <nightdemon666> just BEWARE that when you do that, and the configuration in the generated file doesnt work for some reason, you WILL be likely operating in command line mode trying to recover. how off is the display in Deft?
[05:56] <capinjack> There's no display, the monitor reports out of range, checked with a 2nd mon, same msg
[06:00] <Geoffrey2> would changing Ubuntu's desktop manager to xfce cause it not to detect a new version release?
[06:01] <nightdemon666> i see... but the same monitor, and same hardware does work with previous version of ubuntu?
[06:01] <capinjack> yes, 8.1
[06:01] <nightdemon666> um, ubuntu 8.1???
[06:02] <capinjack> sorry, that's correct
[06:02] <Geoffrey2> because I can't get this to admit version 13.04 is available...
[06:02] <qin> Geoffrey2: are you LTS?
[06:02] <Geoffrey2> version installed is 12.10....
[06:03] <nightdemon666> thats a good question qin... i think if you are on an LTS release, only LTS releases are shown available when they are...
[06:04] <Geoffrey2> ok, any manual way to tell it to go fetch?
[06:04] <Guest4931> how can i determine the size of my monitor in inches? technically i could go out and buy a ruler... but it's 2am.
[06:04] <Ari-Yang> I'm on 12.10 and when I check for updates and after software is updated it notifies me of 13.04
[06:04] <qin> Geoffrey2: sudo apt-get update; do-release-upgrade; ?
[06:04] <nightdemon666> other than that, i think perhaps installing xfce probably did mess the upgrade thing up. if you really need the upgrade that bad, then sudo apt-get distro-upgrade i think is the command... but you may be upset because it doesnt prompt you when it should. i suppose you ran an update correct?
[06:05] <qin> Geoffrey2: or maybe first: update and sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[06:05] <Geoffrey2> I did the update, upgrade....it just brought all the files up to date....
[06:06] <nightdemon666> oh, do-release-upgrade does the same as distro-upgrade? didnt know that... anyway, i usually steer people from doing an upgrade like that because it tends to be problematic. clean installs seem to work more reliably, even though the do-release-upgrade "should" work.
[06:06] <qin> Geoffrey2: and: lsb_release; says what?
[06:06] <capinjack> I can't update 8.1, after an install of 13.04 I get the same signal display out of range error. Trying to get up to speed on this
[06:07] <Geoffrey2> qin, No LSB modules are available.
[06:07] <nightdemon666> capinjack, have you created that custom xorg.config file from a working distro on that hardware yet?
[06:08] <qin> Geoffrey2: ment: lsb_release -a, sorry
[06:08] <Geoffrey2> Ubuntu 12.10, quantal
[06:09] <iderik> Could anyone recommend a terminal with unicode and 256 colors?
[06:09] <Geoffrey2> four lines in total, I just didn't feel like typing all the repetitions....
[06:10] <qin> iderik: urxvt
[06:10] <rusty0101> If you're running an lts version, you want to check to see if notifications of new ubuntu versions is ste for long-term support versions. If it is, 12.04 is the current lts release. If you switch it to For Any new version, it will let you know of the next version up from the version you are running. Stepping through release after release till you get to the current release of 13.04
[06:11] <qin> Geoffrey2: only setting in software sources comes to my head...
[06:11] <leptone> how do i format a pen drive from terminal
[06:12] <Ari-Yang> try googling that, leptone?
[06:12] <nightdemon666> i think the parted program does that no?
[06:12] <Geoffrey2> ok, sudo apt-get dist-upgrade produces 0 upgraded, 0 newly  installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded
[06:12] <kameron> exit
[06:13] <nightdemon666> Geoffrey2, hate to say, but a clean install would be the simple solution, though not a solution to the ultimate problem... the os "should" prompt to upgrade to new release when one becomes available in the repos.
[06:14] <Ari-Yang> Geoffrey2, is it important for you to get a notification of a new version? are you going to upgrade to it?
[06:15] <Geoffrey2> yes, a clean install is probably the way to go...was just hoping to avoid the extra steps of downloading and burning the ISO to disc.....
[06:16] <Ari-Yang> Geoffrey2, why not use a usb?
[06:16] <nightdemon666> this is why i stick to the lts releases. i have in the past settles with a non-lts release due to stability issues (i know, a non-lts release being stable!?)
[06:18] <nightdemon666> but thats just because im lazy and i dont want to 1) deal with the headache of the upgrade process not working as it is suppose to, and 2) having to back up everything and loading a flash drive with the latest release :/
[06:18] <rusty0101> you can specify what level of updates you get notified about in /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades. If you have it set for LTS, you won't be notified of 12.10 or 13.04 unless you change it. You also can't install from an LTS release into a non-LTS release if you have it set for LTS only. (exception, clean install.)
[06:18] <Ari-Yang> nightdemon666, I've been on 12.10 since mid 2012 and it's been stable...
[06:19] <qin> Geoffrey2: http://xubuntugeek.blogspot.co.uk/2013/05/how-to-upgrade-xubuntu-1210-to-1304.html
[06:19] <nightdemon666>  Ari-Yang, i will give ubuntu that credit. in MOST cases ubuntu is stable no matter what release (hardware depending)... thats why i went from Fedora to ubuntu -- or Debian in general
[06:19] <qin> Geoffrey2: reading....
[06:19] <Ari-Yang> *nod*
[06:20] <qin> Geoffrey2: miss...
[06:21] <shortstraw8> I need to add a libreoffice plugin to chrome, how do I do this? I get a prompt to run libreoffice then it says no plugin found, is this a libre office problem or Java problem? everything else that requires Java runs fine so I am assuming it is libreoffice.
[06:22] <leptone> Ari-Yang, i am right now. having trouble...
[06:22] <leptone> can you point me to a good article?
[06:23] <Ari-Yang> leptone: http://daksh21ubuntu.blogspot.com/2011/12/how-to-format-pen-drive-from-terminal.html maybe that?
[06:24] <Ari-Yang> leptone: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hdvm7_3-Yco a video...
[06:25] <Geoffrey2> qin, curiously, the manual do-upgrade option listed in the link you provided generates a response that no upgrade is available
[06:25] <WeThePeople> hi
[06:26] <Geoffrey2> and for some odd reason, I keep getting a message that a server can't be found at ubuntu.org OR xubuntu.org, when i try to browse to those sites
[06:26] <qin> Geoffrey2: yeah, that was total miss, what other dm you have? unity gnome, did you upgraded from 12.04?
[06:26] <aeon-ltd> Geoffrey2: ubuntu.org isn't ubuntu the linux os
[06:27] <aeon-ltd> xubuntu.org is however
[06:27] <Ari-Yang> @ Geoffrey2 http://www.ubuntu.com/
[06:28] <aeon-ltd> Geoffrey2: there maybe be some lines in yout hosts file that's trying to direct it to a sevre that doesn't exist
[06:28] <Geoffrey2> oops, mistype, but ubuntu.com isn't coming up either
[06:28] <aeon-ltd> Geoffrey2: what does work?
[06:29] <Geoffrey2> yep, I had 12.04, upgraded to 12.10, and at some point decided to migrate from Gnome/Unity to xfce
[06:30] <Geoffrey2> ok, what's the path to the hosts file?
[06:30] <shape> Can anyone please confirm if this command cp -r dir1 dir2 dir3 will copy dir1 & dir2 BOTH into dir3? Is that the right way to copy directories with cp
[06:31] <netlar> I am confused, is Unity part of gnome or is it just Ubuntu
[06:32] <qin> Geoffrey2: so you using ubuntu with xfce? cat /etc/apt/sources.list | pastebinit
[06:33] <shape> netlar: Unity is a shell interface for Gnome 3
[06:33] <prince_jammys> shape: yep.
[06:34] <shape> prince_jammys: was that for my question or agreeing to what I wrote to netlar
[06:34] <prince_jammys> cp -r
[06:34] <netlar> shape: and developed by gnome?
[06:34] <shape> netlar: It's developed by Cannonical
[06:34] <qin> shape: yeah, test it: cd; mkdir test1 test2 test3; cp test1 test2 test3; tree test3
[06:34] <shape> netlar: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unity_%28user_interface%29
[06:34] <Geoffrey2> ok, something is messed up networking wise...where do I find the hosts file?
[06:35] <shape> prince_jammys: qin: awesome! thanks!
[06:35] <prince_jammys> shape: from ''man cd'' Copy SOURCE to DEST, or multiple SOURCE(s) to DIRECTORY
[06:35] <prince_jammys> err, man cp
[06:35] <prince_jammys> anyway, so, yes.
[06:36] <shape> prince_jammys: Of course I did that, but I was afraid because it's dir1 dir2 dir3 and says SOURCE to DEST, I thought it would copy dir1 to dir2 and then dir2 to dir3. that was my confusion
[06:37] <prince_jammys> nah, your case is sources to directory, but I know what you mean.
[06:37] <shape> prince_jammys: basically what I wanted to make sure was the last path is where to copy, so i know how cp works :)
[06:40] <rusty0101> Geoffrey2: your hosts file is (almost always) /etc/hosts
[06:42] <chalet16> Hi, I added cryptsetup file to /etc, ran update-initramfs -u and update-grub but nothing has been updated on the initrd. (I decompress it and see no crypttab file inside the initrd.) What should I do?
[06:43] <lonnie> Anyone here know QML?
[06:43] <lonnie> If so, I'd like to ask you a few questions.
[06:47] <Neozonz> how do I run a script without seeing the output
[06:47] <Neozonz> I tried screen and it just sits there after running
[06:47] <Neozonz> anyway I can have a script run in background?
[06:47] <kunji> Geoffrey2: dist-upgrade isn't even supposed to upgrade to the next release is it?  I thought it should be sudo do-release upgrade, no?
[06:48] <lonnie> What version are you running?
[06:48] <kunji> Neozonz: stufftorunscript&   The & should background the task.
[06:49] <Neozonz> kunji, thx
[06:50] <Neozonz> kunji, tried that, and it looked like it worked but then I'm seeing output on my screen now :(
[06:50] <pZombie_reg> when installing something from source, does it equal installing the standard and the devel package ?
[06:51] <pZombie_reg> like if i install openssl from source, do i need to apt-get the developer package still ?
[06:53] <netlar> So Ubuntu is in charge of Unity?
[06:54] <auronandace> netlar: canonical is yes
[06:59] <kunji> Neozonz: Umm, output would still go to the screen if you're writing to standard out, but it should be backgrounded and you should be able to do other things in that terminal.  Commenting out where you write output is probably the easiest way.  Or you could find out to write to standard error for that script language, or to write out to a file.  Alternatively you could pipe the output to null.
[07:00] <kunji> Neozonz: I don't remember exactly, maybe something like: script > /dev/null &
[07:00] <rusty0101> Neozonz: to redirect output so you don't see it, use something like 'scriptname & > /dev/null' to also redirect any error messages use something like 'scriptname > /dev/null 2>&1'
[07:01] <MonkeyDust> netlar  ubuntu and unity are product names, canonical is the enterprise behind the products
[07:01] <Gaulois94> Hello
[07:02] <Gaulois94> In my portable computer HP pavilion g6, who use windows 8 and UEFI bios I can't create a live USB ubuntu 12.04
[07:02] <Neozonz> thanks!
[07:02] <netlar> MonkeyDust: Ok, thanks, canonical is a non profit company?
[07:02] <Gaulois94> I'm searching from bootx64.efi but it doesn't here !!!
[07:03] <Gaulois94> where can I download this efi file?
[07:03] <MonkeyDust> netlar  no, a regular company
[07:03] <Gaulois94> And where should be ?
[07:03] <netlar> MonkeyDust: huh ok, so they try to make money out of this stuff
[07:03] <kunji> Gaulois94: Should be part of the 64 bit version of Ubuntu, no?
[07:03] <Khaleel78> Hi, when I attempt to use the change directory command to any directory it gives me other than "~" it gives me the ">" sign
[07:04] <MonkeyDust> netlar  try to, but not with a lot of success
[07:04] <Gaulois94> Arf...
[07:04] <netlar> MonkeyDust: I kinda thought they were this altruistic company
[07:04] <Gaulois94> kunji : Yes, I DL a 32 bits ubuntu
[07:05] <Gaulois94> and not a 64 bits x) (For me, a 64 bits computer run finely a 32 bits OS)
[07:05] <kunji> Gaulois94: I don't think the 32 bit one works with UEFI, so that could be why
[07:05] <kunji> !UEFI
[07:06] <Gaulois94> I even see that, but I download the wrong iso x)
[07:06] <Phase4> kunji, it won't, 32bit uefi was only implemented by macs
[07:06] <Phase4> Gaulois94, it should boot, but not under UEFI
[07:06] <kunji> Phase4: Ah, yeah, that's what I thought
[07:06] <Gaulois94> (I just want ubuntu for gparted software only : gparted live doesn't works I don't know why)
[07:07] <kunji> There's also a liveCD that only has gparted I think
[07:07] <Gaulois94> Yes but it doesn't work
[07:07] <Phase4> i think that's what he's got
[07:07] <Gaulois94> (problem with module and modprobe...)
[07:07] <Gaulois94> Then I use ubuntu
[07:08] <Gaulois94> Is very a big crap this system x)
[07:09] <Gaulois94> And sorry for this last question but in the Ubuntu documentation I see that I need to delete the boot frag of my first FAT32 partition for create a second
[07:09] <Gaulois94> But if I do that, I can't start to windows 8, no ? (I need to create a second live USB)
[07:10] <Gaulois94> (sorry for my bad english, I'm french)
[07:10] <Phase4> Gaulois94, you shouldnt need to, grub-efi might be able to chainload a 32bit system from uefi, i'm not sure, x86 is absurdly complicated
[07:12] <Gaulois94> Phase4 : I can't boot from a usb device directly
[07:12] <Gaulois94> I need to find the efi file and boot on in
[07:12] <Gaulois94> it*
[07:12] <Phase4> Gaulois94, do you know how to use the grub shell?
[07:13] <Gaulois94> I can't start to it !!!
[07:13] <Gaulois94> I can't start to gparted with ubuntu
[07:13] <Gaulois94> (with gparted live I can but when I start from it, I have a problem with modeprobe on the linux initialisation)
[07:13] <Gaulois94> grub* (not gparted)
[07:14] <Phase4> Gaulois94, no, i meen you can get grub as an efi app, shove it on a usb, name it /EFI/BOOT/bootx64.efi and it should work
[07:14] <Gaulois94> Ah yes I can, but I didn't find him
[07:14] <kunji> Gaulois94: This bug report may shed some light on the current 32 bit situation: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/grub2/+bug/1025555
[07:14] <Gaulois94> I find source code but not efi directly
[07:15] <jayja213> hello
[07:15] <jayja213> is there any way to turn a bunch of pdf tables into a manageable file readable by a c program through ubuntu?
[07:15] <Phase4> Gaulois94, any reason you can't use the 64bit image?
[07:16] <Gaulois94> I download the 64 bit image
[07:16] <Gaulois94> (I have the 32 bits and not the 64 bits)
[07:17] <Phase4> kunji, huh, so aparently intel is making 32bit uefi machines
[07:17] <Phase4> i'm not sure Why, it's not like 64bit takes up that much silicon
[07:18] <kunji> Phase4: Hmm, with new processors?  Maybe they're just trying to offload old chips still?
[07:18] <Phase4> kunji, the bug report mentions 32bit atoms, i thought they were all 64bit now
[07:18] <jayja213> how is the channel so dead with over 1000 people in it...
[07:19] <Phase4> jayja213, of the 1.5k people here, about 1.495k are afk
[07:19] <jayja213> lol :(
[07:19] <Gaulois94> 1 day completly for trying to install archlinux on my computeur x)
[07:20] <Gaulois94> It generally take 3 hours
[07:20] <Gaulois94> takes*
[07:20] <jayja213> 4 hours trying to get data from a pdf into a database :P
[07:20] <Gaulois94> not bad :p
[07:20] <Phase4> jayja213, pdf's are awkward to work with, and i don't think tables are stored as tables
[07:21] <kunji> Phase4: Ah, they're not the laptop/HTPC processors, they're SoCs (phones & tablets), so maybe because of power reasons?
[07:22] <Gaulois94> Or for not cracking this devices ;)
[07:22] <jayja213> phase4 yeah they are not stored as tables, i was hoping for some sort of text recognition software so i could just take a bunch of pictures of it or something
[07:22] <jayja213> idk there is a lot of data and i don't really want to enter it all by hand
[07:23] <kunji> There's some OCR software that could extract text, the names of them are escaping me right now though -_-
[07:23] <Phase4> jayja213, there are a few bits of ocr software
[07:23] <Phase4> yeah, gnome has one or two, googles got an interesting one floating around (only accepts tga's though, pain to convert)
[07:23] <Gaulois94> euh... it's normal the iso name is finish by "amd64.iso" ? Why amd ? I'm on intel
[07:24] <Phase4> Gaulois94, amd was the one who designed the 64bit extensions
[07:24] <kunji> amd created the instruction set
[07:24] <Gaulois94> Ah ok :)
[07:24] <kunji> intel made their own after, but it flopped
[07:24] <jayja213> do you think thats my best option?
[07:24] <jayja213> this is one of the sites
[07:24] <jayja213> http://www.hc-sc.gc.ca/fn-an/alt_formats/hpfb-dgpsa/pdf/nutrition/dri_tables-eng.pdf
[07:24] <Phase4> ia64? that was the.... i forget, but it was a completely different architecture and a flawed idea
[07:24] <FloodBot1> jayja213: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:25] <kunji> Phase4: Yeah, that one I think
[07:25] <Phase4> i think what they wanted was explicit out-of-order execution
[07:25] <Phase4> but couldnt figure out how to compile for that
[07:28] <rusty0101> jayja213: if the PDFs are single page documents, you can use the GIMP to convert them to images and then use one or another of the OCR packages or services to try to convert it to text.
[07:28] <Phase4> jayja213, you can just copy paste the text out of that
[07:28] <Phase4> they were nice enough to store text instead of bitmaps, hate when they do that
[07:29] <jayja213> yeah they were nice until page 6....
[07:29] <jayja213> i need to put page 6 -12 into a structure
[07:30] <Phase4> it's still text, but it'll come out scrambled
[07:30] <jayja213> very scrambled, different organization for each page and no nice and easy pattern....
[07:30] <shape> Hi, what happens if I have an AMD x64 and install ubunut i386 32 bit on it?
[07:31] <Phase4> shape, works normally
[07:31] <jayja213> :(
[07:31] <Phase4> shape, x64 is better though
[07:31] <shape> Phase4: any drawbacks for 64? I remember having problems with compatibility for drivers, etc.
[07:31] <rusty0101> shape: amd64 processors support the i386 instruction set.
[07:32] <Phase4> shape, if you have problems with drivers on 64bit, you'll have them on 32bit too, x64 is better though for a variety of technical reasons
[07:32] <shape> Phase4: such as?
[07:33] <Phase4> shape, large pages, more registers, greater address space (makes memory mapping large files possible), seamless support for more than 4GB of ram
[07:33] <lessless> why after sudo apt-get remove couchdb  all its files are still on the disk?
[07:34] <shape> Phase4: So if I have an intel 64 bit I should install the amd64. iso instead regardless if it says amd?
[07:34] <Phase4> shape, it's faster, but not by enough to matter unless you do a lot of 3d or video work
[07:34] <wilee-nilee> lessless, purge removes what can be.
[07:34] <Phase4> shape, they're compatible
[07:35] <BadElvis> I have this USB sound card, and initially, it showed up in the Sound config of Ubuntu. I tried to configure it as output and chose some options, now it doesn't show up anymore in the sound config. Are there some config files, that I can delete  so that I can connect the USB device as if it was the first time?
[07:35] <BadElvis> lessless: use 'sudo apt-get purge couchdb'
[07:36] <lessless> wilee-nilee, ok, it looks like that package itself is poorly written
[07:36] <rusty0101> the chipset that the ia64 instruction set was for (iirc) is the Itanium processor. Primarily used in database servers.
[07:36] <shape> Phase4: I understand but what I'm saying, since you say it's better to install 64-bit, if my intel e2200 has: Instruction Set 	64-bit to get ubuntu on 64 bit I'd have to use the amd64 iso regardless if it says amd, correct?
[07:36] <lessless> it doesn't help: whereis couchdb: /usr/bin/couchdb /etc/couchdb /usr/lib/couchdb /usr/bin/X11/couchdb /usr/share/couchdb /usr/share/man/man1/couchdb.1.gz
[07:37] <Phase4> shape, yeah, amd64 is a technical name, it works on both intel and amd
[07:37] <rusty0101> if you're running an i3, i5 or i7 processor, or one of the previous ones, you can use the amd64 sets.
[07:37] <Phase4> lessless, apt-get purge? it won't remove configuration/storage unless you ask it too
[07:37] <Phase4> Kabaka, ohai
[07:39] <shape> Phase4: So for sure not drawbacks? I clearly remember 3 years ago or so that some program or driver wasn't working because it was designed for 32 bit or something like that
[07:39] <lessless> Phase4, what about /usr/lib/couchdb?
[07:40] <Phase4> lessless, not sure, you can remove them manually if you wish
[07:40] <Phase4> shape, there used to be problems with 32bit applications on 64bit distros, that's since been fixed in debian and ubuntu
[07:41] <Phase4> it's a little temperamental though, you might have to run dpkg add-architecture i386 once to tell it you actually want that
[07:41] <Phase4> after that though it's damned near flawless
[07:41] <lessless> Phase, yeah but this is a bit obscure...  what is apt-get purge/remove than is for? :)
[07:42] <lessless> and how do I completely remove this package
[07:42] <shape> lessless what's obscure about purge?
[07:42] <Phase4> lessless, if you've run apt-get remove couchdb, then couchdb is gone, whats left is files specific to your machine
[07:42] <jayja213> got it =D
[07:43] <jayja213> thanks bye
[07:43] <shape> Phase4: I see, I guess I am living in old times :)
[07:43] <Gaulois94> shape : you can run 32 bits librarys, with not 32 bits drivers ?
[07:43] <Phase4> hmm, can't find purge on the man page, i'm rarely in ubuntu though (arch user)
[07:43] <Phase4> Gaulois94, drivers are more complex
[07:43] <Phase4> to run that is
[07:43] <lessless> ah, ok
[07:44] <Phase4> you don't have the nice wall that is user space/kernel space
[07:44] <Gaulois94> Phase4 : You pass from arch to ubuntu ? Generaly is not the opposite ?
[07:44] <Phase4> Gaulois94, no, i started with arch and stayed :P
[07:44] <shape> lessless: you can also do sudo apt-get purge program* the * will help remove anything related to that name
[07:44] <Techie-Micheal> I just moved to 13.04 on a new server. /var/log/auth.log isn't being written to. Any idea what's going on there?
[07:44] <Phase4> Gaulois94, it's on some of my familys machines though
[07:45] <Gaulois94> Ah ok :)
[07:46] <Gaulois94> And you congratulate to starte directly with arch ?
[07:46] <shape> I also just installed 13.04 on my laptop and Thunar is really slow/sometimes stops a while when copying to NTFS, any ideas?
[07:46] <Gaulois94> Personally I couldn't
[07:46] <hot2trot> what is the file I have to edit to include another window manger in the list when I startup?  I've already installed the winow manager
[07:46] <Phase4> Gaulois94, i wen't straight from windows xp to archlinux, it's the "learning to fly by jumping off a cliff" method
[07:47] <Gaulois94> is not a jump : is a fly :D
[07:47] <Gaulois94> it's*
[07:47] <shape> hot2trot: it should be automatic, but it's a lightdm issue
[07:47] <Tex_Nick> Phase4:  lol ;-)
[07:48] <Gaulois94> It is already weird for a window user to use ubuntu, then arch... x)
[07:48] <hot2trot> shape: I've done this a few times on different machines when I install, and I just need to edit some text file to get it there... it's never been automatic for me
[07:49] <shape> hot2trot: really? I installed awesome, openbox, xmbc and after restart lightdm has them in the dropdown list. Odd, I'd have to google for the lightdm config file, and I'm too busy at the moment, sorry cant help much further
[07:49] <hot2trot> shape: well thank you, fyi it ratpoison that it never puts it in the list automatically :(
[07:50] <Gaulois94> Well, for the fat32 who have a boot flag, can I keep it and create a second partition ?
[07:50] <Gaulois94> My problem is that I need to create, after ubuntu a second live USB from windows 8
[07:50] <shape> hot2trot: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LightDM
[07:51] <Phase4> Gaulois94, the fat32 partition will be the EFI system partition, remove it and windows won't work
[07:51] <Gaulois94> And if I change the flag of my first partition, I think that I can't start to windows
[07:51] <hot2trot> shape: thank you
[07:51] <shape> hot2trot: more specifically https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LightDM#Change_the_Default_Session
[07:51] <Gaulois94> Phase4 : It's what  I'm thinking, but I have to create an other partition for installing arch, no ?
[07:52] <Gaulois94> And if I delete the boot flag of the fat32 partition, I can't (I think) start on windows for create (finnaly) my arch live usb
[07:53] <Phase4> Gaulois94, whats the make and model of the machine you're trying to install ubuntu on?
[07:53] <Gaulois94> I don't want to install ubuntu : I juste want to use gparted from ubuntu
[07:53] <Phase4> Ah
[07:53] <Gaulois94> (because cfdisk doesn't work with UEFI partition and I don't want to use parted x) )
[07:53] <ner0x> Anyone know a tool that would help me do a blog? Specifically blogger+?
[07:54] <Techie-Micheal> Hrm. auth.log had the wrong ownership. Is this from the upgrade to 13.04 from 12.10?
[07:54] <Phase4> ner0x, firefox?
[07:54] <ner0x> Phase4: Is that the best tool to do the blogs?
[07:54] <Gaulois94> Then from gparted I have to create my linux partition, and a fat32 partition. My question is : can I keep my first fat32 partition and set the flag of my second to "boot" ?
[07:55] <Gaulois94> (sorry again for my bad english)
[07:55] <Phase4> Gaulois94, well i'm still not quite clear on the issue, you've tried both the 64bit and 32bit images?
[07:55] <Gaulois94> I Download the 64bit image now (ubuntu) et use the 64 bits arch image
[07:55] <Phase4> ner0x, it's a web browser, this is probably the wrong channel for discussion about blogs
[07:56] <Gaulois94> It's just tht I need to start to windows again for create my seconde live usb
[07:56] <Gaulois94> that*
[07:56] <ner0x> Phase4: Was asking for ubuntu packages that were connected to blogger+.
[07:56] <Jordan_U> Gaulois94: Could you please summarise what your end goal is, and what problem you're currently having trying to achieve it?
[07:57] <Gaulois94> Jordan_U,  I want to install archlinux and create my linux partitions from gparted who is on ubuntu live cd
[07:57] <MonkeyDust> Gaulois94  you can download and burn gparted as standalone, without ubuntu http://gparted.sourceforge.net/download.php
[07:57] <Gaulois94> I saw that I need to create a second fat32 partition on my computer
[07:57] <Gaulois94> MonkeyDust, I tried but it doesn't work
[07:58] <Gaulois94> (problem with modeprobe)
[07:58] <Gaulois94> this partition need to have a boot flag and, I saw that I have to delete the boot flag of my first fat32 partition
[07:58] <Jordan_U> Gaulois94: Why do you think that you need a second fat32 partition?
[07:59] <Gaulois94> It's writing on the doc x)
[07:59] <Gaulois94> (ubuntu and arch)
[07:59] <Gaulois94> Then I don't have to create this second partition ?
[07:59] <budotz> how do i run a script that can run mkfs.vfat /dev/sdb1?
[07:59] <Jordan_U> Guest22109: Please link to said documentation.
[08:00] <A1Recon> Is there a way to get the constant net speed graph in ubuntu? I used the program Networx in Win 7.
[08:00] <budotz> should sdb1 be mounted first or not really?
[08:00] <MonkeyDust> budotz  ask in #bash
[08:00] <MonkeyDust> budotz  are you familiar with writhing bash scripts?
[08:00] <MonkeyDust> writing*
[08:00] <Jordan_U> budotz: What are you actually trying to accomplish? mkfs can be a dangerous command, and frankly you don't seem to understand it well enough yet to be using it in scripts.
[08:01] <budotz> MonkeyDust, those are just commands that i need to be executed in 1 script
[08:01] <Gaulois94> whait please, I'm french and have the french doc x)
[08:02] <budotz> Jordan_U, i know what mkfs does .and your entitled to whatever you want to think.
[08:02] <cjae> ok so I installed vbox on 13.04 but there is no vboxusers created
[08:02] <MonkeyDust> budotz  don't take advice as an insult, please
[08:02] <budotz> i didnt say anything offensive
[08:02] <cjae> as in the group does not exist
[08:02] <cjae> not the user is not in it
[08:03] <Gaulois94> budotz, mkfs format partition, isn't it ?
[08:04] <Gaulois94> You don't have (normally in arch is the case) to mount the partition
[08:05] <Tex_Nick> A1Recon:  "System Monitor" provides a "Network History" Graph
[08:05] <Jordan_U> budotz: What is your end goal?
[08:07] <budotz> what im doing is sudo umount /dev/sdb1 && mkfs.vfat /dev/sdb1...but it kepts saying its mounted when its not ...it worked with mkfs.ext3 /dev/sdb1..thanks for the help..just being lazy
[08:09] <prince_jammys> "it keeps saying" .. who? umount?
[08:12] <MotherLover> I accidentally deleted my grub partition... I was like "what's this tiny thing?  get back in there with the rest of the raw data"
[08:12] <MotherLover> and now it doesn't werk.  repair utility doesn't work either.  :-('
[08:13] <Gaulois94> MotherLover, you can normally, with a ubuntu live CD for example (or a grub live cd also) reinstall grub
[08:14] <MotherLover> i have a liveUSB of the iso
[08:14] <MotherLover> i didn't see it.  did i just miss it?
[08:14] <MonkeyDust> !grub | MotherLover
[08:14] <MotherLover> oh maybe it's in expert install or something.  all i saw was "install w/windows"  "reformat and install"  and then i forgot the third
[08:15] <MotherLover> ubottu thanks a million
[08:15] <MotherLover> copying links
[08:15] <MotherLover> erm MonkeyDust I mean
[08:15] <Quest> how to find a file ?
[08:15] <Quest> how to find a file ? find / -n filename?
[08:16] <Jordan_U> Quest: "locate pattern" is much faster (though not neccessarily up to date).
[08:16] <MonkeyDust> Quest  or 'locate blah'
[08:16] <MonkeyDust> Jordan_U  was faster :)
[08:17] <Quest> Jordan_U, ,  MonkeyDust   i dont see any /var/log/fail2ban.log . the  iptables and service  fail2ban status says that fail2ban is running fine.. any clue?
[08:17] <Jordan_U> budotz: Could you pastebin the exact error message from mkfs?
[08:19] <kblin> hi folks
[08:20] <prince_jammys> Quest: see fail2ban's config in /etc for to know where it's logging to. Maybe it logs to daemon.log.
[08:20] <kblin> I've got trouble printing to my network print server from my new 13.04 install. printer works just fine from other boxes on the network, and I'm using the same ipp settings
[08:20] <kblin> how do I debug this?
[08:23] <Cubensis> happy motherfuckers day everyone
[08:23] <Tex_Nick> !language | Cubensis
[08:25] <Cubensis> Alright Tex_Nick, give me a mirror and I watch it
[08:25] <Quest> prince_jammys,  # Values:  STDOUT STDERR SYSLOG file  Default:  /var/log/fail2ban.log in     .conf
[08:25] <kblin> Cubensis: inappropriate and immature. great way to join a channel
[08:25] <Cubensis> do you wear a bicycle helmet when you come on IRC?
[08:25] <Cubensis> dont swear!! safety sally soccer mom, little timmy might see
[08:25] <prince_jammys> Quest: and there is no such file?
[08:26] <MonkeyDust> Cubensis  please try to behave
[08:26] <Quest> prince_jammys,  correct
[08:26] <kblin> Myrtti: thanks
[08:27] <prince_jammys> Quest: hm, can you find the fail2ban process in the process tree?
[08:28] <prince_jammys> Quest: you can try ''lsof -c fail2ban'' if fail2ban is the name of the running prog.
[08:29] <prince_jammys> this will list the files that process has open -- maybe you find the log there.
[08:30] <prince_jammys> Quest: you can also try ''man fail2ban'' and go to the bottom -- see if the manual has a 'FILES' section.
[08:30] <ByronZED> Rippln Mobile Apps Social Gamification - http://www.rippln.by/get-started/
[08:31] <Quest> prince_jammys,  http://pastebin.com/SggVCEtC
[08:31] <Fab4Us> hello!
[08:31] <Quest> prince_jammys,  ]# man fail2ban
[08:31] <Quest> No manual entry for fail2ban
[08:32] <Fab4Us> i'm a new user
[08:32] <prince_jammys> Quest: well, crap ...
[08:32] <prince_jammys> Quest: that exhausts both my ideas :)
[08:32] <prince_jammys> !fail2ban
[08:32] <Fab4Us> so what do we do there
[08:32] <MonkeyDust> prince_jammys  use /msg ubottu to test factoids
[08:33] <prince_jammys> okeydoke.
[08:33] <Fab4Us> someone hear me!
[08:34] <prince_jammys> Quest: check out /var/log/daemon.log -- I'm betting it's ending up there.
[08:34] <prince_jammys> Quest: maybe it writes to there via a socket.
[08:35] <MonkeyDust> Fab4Us  this is the support channel, how can we help you
[08:35] <kunji> Fab4Us: We hear you, but this isn't for general chatting, just ask your question directly if you have one.  #ubuntu-offtopic for chatting.
[08:36] <Quest> prince_jammys,  iam installing it to centos now.
[08:36] <Quest> prince_jammys,  well no daemon.log there
[08:36] <qin> !ot | Fab4Us
[08:37] <Quest> prince_jammys,  no daemon.log in ubuntu as well
[08:39] <Quest> prince_jammys,  logpath  = /var/log/secure for sshd. but nothings there in centos
[08:40] <Quest> prince_jammys,  logpath  = /var/log/secure for sshd. but nothings there in centos. in jail.conf
[08:46] <Dr_Willis> Hmm. Seems DynDNS is now trying to shutdown us old timers with free accounts by making us login to their site every 30 days.  ;(  How annoying.
[08:47] <ActionParsnip> dr_willis: no-ip does that but I think its every 60 days :-)
[08:47] <kblin> Dr_Willis: yeah, lost my account that way at some point by missing the deadline by a day
[08:47] <MonkeyDust> never got either to 'work' as i want
[08:47] <Dr_Willis> well my router updates the stuff. has for ages.. but aparently thats not good enough these days for them
[08:48] <ActionParsnip> dr_willis: yeah i use noip2 on my ubuntu server to do the same
[08:48] <Dr_Willis> more On topic.. anyone else noticeing the 'spring folders' feature of nautilus in 13.04 is a little too sensetive..?
[08:49] <ActionParsnip> dr_willis: never heard of spring folders. let me search
[08:49] <Dr_Willis> drag/drop hold over a folder.. it opens
[08:49] <Dr_Willis> I can barely drag/drop... it alwyas springs open the folder befor i can drop it
[08:49] <MonkeyDust> Dr_Willis  i have this other issue in nautilus: any filemanager icon outside the 'native' opens Totem, not Nautilus
[08:50] <Dr_Willis> MonkeyDust:  seen that when the 'folder' file association gets messed up.. like if you had right clicked on a folder and selected 'play in totem'
[08:50] <ActionParsnip> dr_willis: sounds cool, i use guake for moving files etc these days :-)
[08:51] <MonkeyDust> Dr_Willis  that's how it bahaves, even when just plugging my external HD
[08:51] <Dr_Willis> ActionParsnip:  it would be cool if it wasent so annoying about opening when i dont want it..
[08:51] <ActionParsnip> dr_willis: oh the whole 'folders open in totem' deal. What fun that was
[08:51] <Dr_Willis> because then i have to hit parent/up to get back to where i was working  constantly
[08:51] <ActionParsnip> dr_willis: is there a timeout setting in nautilus?
[08:52] <ActionParsnip> dr_willis: sensitivity and so forth.
[08:52] <Dr_Willis> ActionParsnip:  i cant find one.. yet..
[08:52] <Dr_Willis> all the google hits i find are from  like 2008 for people wanting the feature. ;)
[08:53] <Dr_Willis> i seem to recall ages ago - apple had the feature and was sueing others that had the same feature. :) even tho it had been around befor apple used it
[08:53] <ActionParsnip> dr_willis: try searching in dconf-editor
[08:55] <gustav___> Why this article? http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2013/05/half-life-2-steam-linux It's NOT available on Steam.
[08:56] <DJones> gustav___: Its in Beta, so available for people willing to test, but not generally available for sale yet
[08:57] <gustav___> Ah.
[08:57] <Dr_Willis> HL2 one of the few games i actually played untill the end.. ;)
[08:57] <DJones> gustav___: At least, that was the explanation I saw yesterday
[08:57] <Dr_Willis> after giving up on it for ages.. (got stuck on some level
[08:58] <gustav___> DJones: I didn't read the article on OMGUbuntu thorougly.
[08:58] <gustav___> HL are great games. Or were.
[08:58] <Dr_Willis> HL2(beta) is showing up here on steam for me.
[08:58] <Dr_Willis> I allready own it however. ;P
[08:59] <gustav___> Dr_Willis: How do I enable Beta?
[08:59]  * ActionParsnip remebers when Counterstrike was a 120Mb mod for HalfLife and free
[08:59] <gustav___> ActionParsnip: Those were the days.
[08:59] <Dr_Willis> gustav___:  no idea. I just ran steam, and looked.. I got  several "halflife whatever (beta)" items in my library
[09:00] <gustav___> All games seem to copy CS  now.
[09:00] <ActionParsnip> gustav___: the early betas were great :). "He has sleeves and we don't! Kill him!!!"
[09:00] <gustav___> ActionParsnip: OMG. I didn't play so early.
[09:01] <Dr_Willis> seems i have a left 4 dead 2 Beta also...
[09:01] <ActionParsnip> gustav___: yeah I got in early. After 1.1 i'd lost interest.
[09:01] <gustav___> ActionParsnip: I think that's the version I played.
[09:02] <Dr_Willis> I rember back when everyone was fighting to get "Americas Armys" or whatever it was called going on linux. ;)
[09:02] <ActionParsnip> Firearms mod was good too, lots of realistic stuff. Urban Terror is a great open source counterstrike :-)
[09:02] <narab> ][\8\/0*=\=/*\\7]=
[09:02] <narab> 89
[09:02] <narab> 7
[09:02] <nightmare365> hi guys is there a way to stop the scanning for btrfs during boot ..it is slowing my boot time significantly
[09:03] <ActionParsnip> nightmare365: do you use btrfs?
[09:03] <nightmare365> no
[09:03] <gustav___> Urban Terror was kind of nice. Reminded me of another old 3D game. That's in the repos. I got banned from UrT, though.
[09:03] <Dr_Willis> nightmare365:  so where do you see this 'scanning for btrfs' at ?
[09:04] <nightmare365> during boottime it appears as the first thing just after grub .. it Dr_Willis
[09:05] <Dr_Willis> might want to check askubuntu.com - ive never seen  anything about that on my systems.. or seen it mentioned in here actually.
[09:05] <Dr_Willis> sounds like it may be somthing initrd is doing.
[09:05] <nightmare365> is there a way to know how i can fix that
[09:06] <Quest> prince_jammys, nevermind case solved
[09:06] <Dr_Willis> i would check  askubuntu.com - it might be an allready known about/fix posted issue....
[09:07] <gustav___> nightmare365: Check for strange things in /etc/default/grub.
[09:07] <ActionParsnip> nightmarr365: you could check the init levels and check for btrfs, you could also uninstall btrfs apps.
[09:07] <Dr_Willis> bbl. work  time for me.
[09:08] <nightmare365> ok brb
[09:08] <ActionParsnip> nightmare365: it sems a race situation can be the cause but I am unsure
[09:08] <nightmare365> ok is btrfs tools needed
[09:09] <nightmare365> ment is it a critical system app
[09:09] <Tex_Nick> i set my grub timeout to 0, to bypass grub on startup ... i thought holding the shift key down when booting would display grub ... doesn't seem to work on this box (13.04)
[09:10] <Ben66> Tex_Nick: has to be left shift, and you may have to keep pressing it, not holding
[09:12] <Tex_Nick> Ben66 : ok i've been using the left key ... will try bumping it a few times instead of holding it down ... thanks for the input
[09:12] <ActionParsnip> nightmare365: try uninstalling it, if it only uninstalls itself or other btrfs aps then fine, if it wants to disembowel your OS, just say no
[09:13] <gustav___> Ah, the magics of the package system, sometimes.
[09:14] <nightmare365> ok .. let me reboot and see if it solves it
[09:18] <ran_> i need help about slow boot in xubuntu 13.04
[09:18] <hacktus0> Hello, Where is buffer in ubuntu ?
[09:18] <ActionParsnip> tex_nick: can you pastebin your /etc/default/grub please
[09:19] <ActionParsnip> hactus0: buffer for what?
[09:19] <ActionParsnip> ran_: run: dmesg | less
[09:19] <nightmare365> ActionParsnip: that solved it .. thanks a mil'
[09:19] <ActionParsnip> ran_: use cursors to scroll, look for large gaps in the time on the left
[09:19] <hacktus0> buffer internet , ActionParsnip
[09:19] <ActionParsnip> nightmare365: sweet
[09:20] <ActionParsnip> hacktus0: do you mean web cache, temporary internat files?
[09:20] <hacktus0> Yes,ActionParsnip
[09:20] <ActionParsnip> ran_: that will give the cause
[09:21] <ran_> at 20 seconds from boot ipv6 is loaded, and at 80 seconds from boot there is somthing about NVRM gpu
[09:21] <ActionParsnip> hacktus0: try using clearer less technical terms, its much clearer
[09:21] <ActionParsnip> hacktus0: which browser are you using?
[09:21] <ran_> so there is a delay of about 40 seconds
[09:22] <ActionParsnip> ran_: do you use ipv6?
[09:22] <ran_> no
[09:22] <hacktus0> Chrome ,ActionParsnip
[09:22] <hacktus0> Google chrome
[09:22] <ActionParsnip> ran_: disable it with the boot option: ipv6.disable=1
[09:23] <Quest> prince_jammys,   logtarget = /var/log/fail2ban.log       instead of  logtarget = syslog
[09:23] <ActionParsnip> hacktus0: chrome web cache is in ~/.cache/google-chrome
[09:23] <Tex_Nick> ActionParsnip:  sorry got distracted ... http://pastebin.com/MgW0rk0x
[09:23] <ran_> in grub?
[09:23] <jl345> floodb
[09:25] <Excryption> Hello, I have a hybrid Intel HD4000 and AMD Radeon 7730M laptop. When it comes to boot and reboot it's pretty slow. http://paste.ubuntu.com/5657411/ - this is my Xorg log, any help please?
[09:25] <ActionParsnip> tex_nick: uncomment the GRUB_HIDDEN_TIMEOUT line
[09:26] <Excryption> I'm using a proprietary driver, would it be better to switch to the Xorg open source driver for my AMD?
[09:26] <ActionParsnip> ran_: yes, that is where boot options are applied
[09:26] <ran_> is there a known problems about boot in xubuntu 13.04? in 12.10 there was not any problems with boot
[09:27] <ActionParsnip> hacktus0: i have that folder in tempfs, makes web browsing fastrer
[09:27] <ActionParsnip> ran_: not seeing any issues here. did you upgradr to raring or did you clean install?
[09:28] <ran_> sometimes the shutdown is also delayed.
[09:28] <hacktus0> OK, thank ActionParsnip
[09:28] <ActionParsnip> ran_: you do know raring is EOL before Quantal, just so you are aware
[09:28] <ran_> i have a dual boot system with win 7.
[09:28] <hacktus0> ActionParsnip : I want to encrypt
[09:29] <kvothetech> Excryption: that depends on your uses and which card etc.
[09:29] <ActionParsnip> hacktus0: encrypt what?
[09:30] <hacktus0> ActionParsnip : the folder in MD5 or DES.
[09:30] <Tex_Nick> ActionParsnip:  ohhh man i missed that in the documentation ... that might help a LOT ;-) let me reboot this box ... as always thanks ... you've givenme some cool tips in the past
[09:30] <ActionParsnip> hacktus0: to achieve what, exactly?
[09:30] <ActionParsnip> tex_nick: be sure to run: sudo update-grub
[09:31] <Tex_Nick> ActionParsnip:  yes sir will do ;-)
[09:31] <kblin> hacktus0: you're aware that DES is pretty easy to crack these days and MD5 is not an encryption but a one-way hash?
[09:31] <ActionParsnip> kblin: hence me asking :-)
[09:32] <Excryption> I'm currently using Intel HD
[09:32] <kblin> ActionParsnip: arguably your data is pretty safe if you just store the MD5 sums
[09:32] <kblin> ActionParsnip: unfortunately it's also pretty safe from you
[09:32] <MatthiasShalom> Mir & KWin = http://blog.martin-graesslin.com/blog/2013/05/mir-in-kubuntu/#comments
[09:33] <MatthiasShalom> Oh, this is it: blog.martin-graesslin.com/blog/2013/05/mir-in-kubuntu
[09:33] <hacktus0> but MD5 are good because our password is encrypted with MD5 in /etc/shadow/ ,kblin
[09:35] <kblin> hacktus0: actually I wouldn't trust plain MD5 to hash passwords anymore. but you were talking about folders, not passwords
[09:37] <hacktus0> Yes, but I want to encrypt the temporary file because if somebody have wireshark he don't read when I am on world wide web ,kblin
[09:37] <A1Recon> Accessing the PC through ES File Explorer in Android with the correct Username and Password shows "Error. Server cannot be found".
[09:37] <kvothetech> hacktus0: the temp dir has NOTHING to do with wireshark...
[09:38] <kblin> hacktus0: encrypting your temporary internet files won't help against a network sniffer
[09:38] <ActionParsnip> hacktus0: what are you trying to actually achieve?  Do you even know what wireshark does?
[09:39] <gustav___> Wait. TF2 is running on HL2.
[09:39] <gustav___> I don't like this: "[142206.816541] NVRM: GPU at 0000:01:00.0 has fallen off the bus."
[09:39] <kvothetech> gustav___: yes all source engine games are on hl2 engine..
[09:40] <ActionParsnip> gustav___: call 999
[09:40] <gustav___> o_O
[09:41] <A1Recon> Accessing the PC through ES File Explorer in Android with the correct Username and Password shows "Error. Server cannot be found". Any ideas why??
[09:41] <hacktus0> But where are the packets...
[09:41] <kvothetech> hacktus0: Your ethernet card ? the switch?
[09:41] <kvothetech> then the router
[09:41] <gustav___> ActionParsnip: It's 112.
[09:41] <kvothetech> then your modem...yeah ...not in your temp dir...
[09:42] <ActionParsnip> gustav___: i'd say falling off a bys was an emergency, so 999 is used
[09:42] <gustav___> ActionParsnip: True.
[09:42] <kblin> ActionParsnip: 0118 999 881<PHONE_NUMBER> is the new number for that
[09:42] <kvothetech> kblin: it crowd?
[09:42] <ActionParsnip> hacktus0: the packets are on the network, before they hit your system storage, so it will do nothing to encrypt the folder
[09:43] <hacktus0> how can I encrypt the packet internet ?
[09:43] <kvothetech> ActionParsnip: I get the feeling hacktus0 is just making stuff up as he goes along..just the impression i get.
[09:43] <ActionParsnip> kblin: i wish it was, that would be awesome. id be laughing too hard to dial "hello. i've had a tumble"
[09:43] <kvothetech> hacktus0: ssl tls etc
[09:44] <ActionParsnip> hacktus0: lots of sites use https now
[09:44] <kvothetech> tls is just ssl with the beginning unencrypted until you login btw
[09:45] <A1Recon> ActionParsnip: Accessing the PC through ES File Explorer in Android with the correct Username and Password shows "Error. Server cannot be found". Any ideas why??
[09:45] <ActionParsnip> hacktus0: i think you need to research some. You dont seem too sure what things do or what you are even trying to protect yourself from
[09:45] <kblin> kvothetech: :) sure
[09:45] <ActionParsnip> a1recon: what service are you connecting to on the server side?
[09:46] <kvothetech> A1Recon: uhm what's es file explorer using to connect do you have a server runnig for it to connect to
[09:46] <kvothetech> kblin: :) yeah good show
[09:46] <ActionParsnip> a1recon: tried the IP instead of name as well?
[09:48] <A1Recon> ActionParsnip: kvothetech: ES File Explorer is just an application on Android, it lets you see the files on the phone/network/cloud! You don't need to run a server on the PC, just the usual file sharing will do. I am using IP address.
[09:49] <ActionParsnip> a1recon: so it connects to samba?
[09:49] <A1Recon> kvothetech: do you have an Anrdoid??
[09:49] <llutz> A1Recon: sure you need a kind of server to access using es-fileex, smb/sftp/ftp
[09:49] <A1Recon> ActionParsnip:  yes
[09:49] <kvothetech> A1Recon: nfs then? yes i do i use andftp and scp mode...
[09:49] <ActionParsnip> a1recon: then samba is the service you are connecting to
[09:49] <A1Recon> llutz: smb
[09:49] <A1Recon> ActionParsnip: samba
[09:50] <kvothetech> A1Recon: andftp or juicessh are what i use because i can't stand es too limited
[09:50] <ActionParsnip> a1recon: you need the samba server service to run to connrct to samba. so "you dont need to run a server" is incorrect
[09:51] <tero> hi guys. How can I found out on what date my ubuntu was installed?
[09:51] <ActionParsnip> a1recon: do you use ssh on the same box?
[09:51] <A1Recon> ActionParsnip: got it!! BTW this works fine on one phone, but the other one is giving me hell
[09:52] <Yinseng> after my Ubuntu server has been inactive for a while, the console becomes a black screen and no amount of mouse movement brings it back to life. Is there some sort of key shortcut I'm not aware of to get it to come out of this black screen?
[09:52] <Yinseng> I can putty into it just fine so I know the server isn't locked up
[09:53] <bekks> Yinseng: Press a key on the keyboard.
[09:53] <Yinseng> I did
[09:53] <A1Recon> ActionParsnip: No
[09:53] <Yinseng> oh wait. It just suddenly came up. after like 5 minutes.  VMware's performance tab shows virtually nothing.
[09:55] <Yinseng> kvothetech: It was working just fine yesterday
[09:55] <Yinseng> it is frozen on checking my password
[09:55] <ran_> i need help about slow boot in xubuntu 13.04. this id from kern.log: May 12 12:47:29 ran-pc kernel: [   25.565036] IPv6: ADDRCONF(NETDEV_CHANGE): eth0: link becomes ready
[09:55] <ran_> May 12 12:48:23 ran-pc kernel: [   79.330194] NVRM: GPU at 0000:01:00: GPU-b03a1015-0ea1-3bcd-767e-11e25bf45b35
[09:56] <Yinseng> okay it's FINALLY resumed and working fine. Is this some sort of sleep mode? How do I turn it off? Or ideally make it not take forever?
[09:56] <ran_> why there is a 40 seconds delay?
[09:56] <Yinseng> false alarm, mouse is moving fine but the elements are still taking more than a minute to respond. c.c
[09:56] <Yinseng> no idea what is going on
[09:57] <kblin> Yinseng: and your server is a virtual machine?
[09:57] <kvothetech> Yinseng: x set s 0 0
[09:57] <kvothetech> that'll turn off the screensaver bit at least
[09:57] <Yinseng> well it's out of the screensaver
[09:58] <Yinseng> it's back on the desktop but it's being unresponsive other than the mouse.
[09:58] <A1Recon> ActionParsnip: Where can I learn about FTP, SSH and the other good stuff??
[09:59] <Yinseng> I'm not sure what's causing this massive massive slowdown after a good length of inactivity
[09:59] <Yinseng> I'm using Unity 2D if that's of any help
[09:59] <ActionParsnip> a1recon: just use it
[10:00] <ActionParsnip> a1recon: astro file manager can connect to samba
[10:00] <ActionParsnip> a1recon: there is also andsamba
[10:01] <kblin> there's also a samba server package for android, but I think that requires a jailbroken phone, not sure, though, never used it
[10:01] <Yinseng> Yeah. I managed to log out (it took like 10 minutes total) and I went back into the Unity 2D Shell. NOW it's working fine. Did not reboot the machine or reduce any load at all
[10:01] <Yinseng> After it enters sleep mode or the screensaver or whatever, when it comes out of it is just entirely unresponsive and I don't know why
[10:02] <bekks> Yinseng: Then check the load.
[10:02] <Braden`> Hello
[10:02] <Yinseng> the load is fine. I checked it. There was no load.
[10:02] <kvothetech> Braden`: hi
[10:03] <Braden`> I just upgraded from 12.10 to 13, and now when I reboot I get "Cannot open display"
[10:03] <kvothetech> Braden`: got the module loaded for your gpu?
[10:03] <bekks> Yinseng: Did you just check the "load" or did you check which programs used CPU/MEM/SWAP?
[10:03] <kvothetech> or built in/kms
[10:03] <ActionParsnip> braden`: do you use proprietary video drivers?
[10:03] <Yinseng> bekks: I used VMware's performance monitor
[10:04] <ActionParsnip> yiseng: which screensaver package are you using?
[10:04] <Yinseng> It's just a base Ubuntu 12.04 LTS install with the unity desktop environment and some updates.
[10:04] <bekks> Yinseng: That does not tell you a single bit on whats happening IN the guest.
[10:05] <bekks> Yinseng: So check the load and the cpu/mem/swap usage inside the guest.
[10:05] <Yinseng> well I can't really do that now because now it's working fine
[10:06] <bekks> Yinseng: And you cant do it now because of what?
[10:06] <Yinseng> ...because it's working fine? The problem is gone because I logged out and logged back in
[10:06] <bekks> Yinseng: You could still find traces on what happened. But its your choice.
[10:06] <Yinseng> Can you be more specific about what you want me to do
[10:07] <Yinseng> for instance if I was using windows you could tell me to check Event Viewer
[10:07] <bekks> Yinseng: I wanted you to take a look at top, ps aux and dmesg.
[10:07] <Yinseng> would you prefer I do this from a terminal in the desktop environment, or does it not matter
[10:07] <bekks> Yinseng: And you omitted the information that you are running a vm. :)
[10:08] <A1Recon> ActionParsnip: Oh yeah, the problem was solved. I went over to #android. The thing was one of the android phone is 2.3 so I have to load CifsManager "to load the appropriate kernel modules"
[10:08] <bekks> Yinseng: Terminal commands are to be done in a terminal.
[10:08] <ActionParsnip> yinseng: find out which screensaver package you are using as well
[10:08] <Yinseng> (4:55:20 AM) Yinseng: There is no load.  I cant get the Networkmanager applet started. It flashes up in the tray icon bar and than dissapears. I get this message if i start it in a terminal: http://dpaste.com/1144609/
[10:08] <ActionParsnip> a1recon: i see, ive always use andsamva but in JellyBean Astro accesses it seamlessly
[10:08] <Braden`> ActionParsnip:  Nay, just the standard video drivers.  They were working before I upgraded though
[10:09] <Yinseng> ActionParsnip: How do I do that
[10:09] <bekks> Yinseng: You could have said "I am using a vm"at the beginning.
[10:09] <Yinseng> I kinda assumed mentioning it was vmware from the beginning would be good enough
[10:09] <Braden`> kvothetech:  I have no idea how to check that
[10:09] <ActionParsnip> a1recon: if you install openssh-server on the server, you can use andftp and also stream securely over the web
[10:10] <A1Recon> ActionParsnip: Thanks!!
[10:10] <kvothetech> Braden`: lspci and look for the ones for your gpu ..also when you updated the kernel did you recompile the modules with it
[10:10] <Yinseng> I don't see a control for it in the desktop environment so far...
[10:10] <ActionParsnip> braden`: what video chip do you use?
[10:11] <Yinseng> There is Brightness and Lock
[10:11] <Yinseng> but that doesn't tell me much
[10:11] <ActionParsnip> yiseng: what is the output of: dpkg -l | grep saver
[10:11] <Yinseng> http://i.imgur.com/hRditmo.png
[10:11] <Yinseng> 1s
[10:11] <ActionParsnip> yinseng: use pastebin to host the output
[10:12] <Yinseng> http://i.imgur.com/rg2S9g9.png
[10:12] <Braden`> kvothetech:  I suspect the package manager did that for me
[10:12] <Braden`> ActionParsnip:  Its Virtualbox
[10:12] <ActionParsnip> yinseng: for text, why use an image?
[10:12] <Yinseng> because it takes 3 seconds with hyperdesktop
[10:12] <Yinseng> would you prefer the text?
[10:13] <ActionParsnip> braden`: i'd ask in #vbox it may be a known issue
[10:13] <ActionParsnip> yinseng: just curious
[10:13] <kvothetech> Braden`: then reinstall open-vm-tools or whatever the vbox equivalent is
[10:13] <A1Recon> ActionParsnip: Do you know what is CSSH?
[10:13] <ActionParsnip> yinseng: uninstall that package and install xscreensaver
[10:13] <Yinseng> ok, will you walk me through? I'm still kinda unfamiliar with apt-get
[10:14] <ActionParsnip> a1recon: use it everyday at work
[10:14] <ActionParsnip> yinseng: you can use software centre
[10:14] <A1Recon> ActionParsnip: May I PM you??
[10:14] <ActionParsnip> a1recon: sure
[10:15] <ActionParsnip> yinseng: or read: man apt-get
[10:16] <Yinseng> I've read it, my medication just makes it hard for me to remember things
[10:16] <Yinseng> 1s
[10:16] <ActionParsnip> yinseng: software centre makes it easier
[10:17] <Yinseng> yeah, I'm looking through it and I'm using the search filter but I'm not getting anything when I search for gnome or screen or lock
[10:18] <ActionParsnip> yinseng: close the app and run: sudo apt-get --purge renove gnome-screensaver; sudo apt-get --purge autoremove; sudo apt-get install xscreensaver
[10:19] <kvothetech> ActionParsnip: Yinseng the renove should be remove
[10:19] <arsdragonfly> remove
[10:19] <ActionParsnip> doh
[10:19] <kvothetech> (in case he copy pastes it :)
[10:20] <Yinseng> Ok, done.
[10:21] <Yinseng> Logged back in. how do I know it's working
[10:21] <ActionParsnip> yinseng: then configure xscreensaver to not load a screensaver after a time, basically disable it
[10:22] <Yinseng> ah here we go, there's a new 'screensaver' option when I search..
[10:23] <Quest> ports can be forwarded by routers/switches and NATing can be done. how to do that if the thats a linux server instead?
[10:23] <bekks> Quest: Basically by using iptables.
[10:23] <Yinseng> ok, screensaver disabled
[10:24] <Quest> bekks,  hmm. its easy? i use firestarter to controll iptables
[10:24] <bekks> Quest: No, you have to know what you are doing there. :)
[10:24] <ActionParsnip> yinseng: should be ok then
[10:24] <hacktus0> my ubuntu 13.04 don't shutdown. When I shutdown my PC then I must shutdown manualy. can you help me????
[10:25] <hacktus0> I think it 's my kernel
[10:26] <pagnol2> does anyone run ubuntu 13 and use the iwlwifi driver?  I'm trying to find out which version of iwlwifi is included in ubuntu 13
[10:26] <hacktus0> my ubuntu 13.04 don't shutdown. When I shutdown my PC then I must shutdown manualy. can you help me????
[10:26] <kvothetech> hacktus0: shutdown -h now
[10:26] <kvothetech> it'll kill everything then halt it...
[10:26] <ActionParsnip> hacktus0: if you run: sudo shutdown -h now
[10:26] <Quest> bekks,  where to learn iptables
[10:26] <bekks> !iptables
[10:26] <ActionParsnip> kvothetech: thought it needed sudo..
[10:27] <kvothetech> ActionParsnip: dunno i don't have sudo installed