[16:26] <Brian____> by mistake my harddrive got mounted as cdrom
[16:26] <coldReactive42> I don't like using my scanner as root
[16:27] <hbekel> coldReactive42: forget it
[16:27] <tapas> coldReactive42: the cleanest way will be to update the udev rule to give the device the right permissions automatically
[16:27] <jiohdi> everytime I start my laptop it asks for a password for a keyring, how do I make it just do it without a password?
[16:27] <ret> on the `get ubuntu' download page, what 64bit version is being referred to? x86-64/IA64 x64 or what?
[16:27] <gcl__> hi, ive chosen the resolution 1280x768 for my 720p TV, but it reverts to 1080i display even though the TV supports 720p. does anyone know how to fix this?
[16:27] <coldReactive42> And how the heck do I do that?
[16:27] <hbekel> tapas: that's what i've been telling him
[16:27] <tapas> coldReactive42: the concrete device file can change from time to time
[16:28] <tapas> coldReactive42: a symlink will not change the permissions of the original file
[16:28] <Pici> Brian____: No. You said that you installed unetbootin onto your main harddrive.  I don't know of any way to convert this back to a real Ubuntu installation, you'd probably need to reinstall.
[16:28] <tapas> coldReactive42: well, plug out the scanner and plug it back in
[16:28] <coldReactive42> then what do I do?
[16:28] <tapas> coldReactive42: then look into the output of dmesg
[16:28] <minimec> gnhk666: Wait!! Check System-Administration-Hardware Drivers, to see if you can enable it. Ubuntu may have it onboard! http://nxadm.wordpress.com/2008/05/21/broadcom-wifi-bcm4312-speedup-on-ubuntu-804-on-a-hp-nc6320-laptop/
[16:28] <TOMMYTOMA> ciaoo
[16:28] <tapas> coldReactive42: it will say something about the device..
[16:28] <hbekel> tapas: you can specify it all in the udev rule, group, permissions, etc coldReactive42
[16:28] <TOMMYTOMA> !list
[16:28] <tapas> hbekel: yeah
[16:28] <hbekel> coldReactive42: and if you want help, highlight
[16:29] <ret> anyone?
[16:29] <ret> on the `get ubuntu' download page, what 64bit version is being referred to? x86-64/IA64 x64 or what?
[16:29] <MadGirl> hmmm... anyone is using xorg-server with USE=minimal?
[16:29] <ret> is there an ubuntu64 bit chan
[16:29] <g3org3s> Hello .. when im installing network manager , my ubuntu wont connect to internet anymore, tho my ip is static , what could be the problem ?
[16:29] <coldReactive42> it's an all-in-one scanner/printer ,it has more than one USB bus
[16:29] <tapas> coldReactive42: with highlight he means: mention the nick you are talking to, so our cool irc clients do highlight your message, so we know you are talking to us :)
[16:29] <tapas> coldReactive42: well, choose the one port you usually use to connect it to the PC
[16:29] <Halabund> Has anyone else had problems with periodically disconnecting wireless?
[16:30] <coldReactive42> I meant, it is considered to be two devices to dmesg
[16:30] <tapas> coldReactive42: ok, one will probably say something about being a scanner
[16:30] <shadowwulf> what program for linux can i use in place for daemon tools
[16:30] <tapas> coldReactive42: best will be you post the output of dmesg onto some pastesite
[16:30] <coldReactive42> I can't give the whole dmesg
[16:31] <coldReactive42> it was cut off
[16:31] <tapas> coldReactive42: use e.g. the command "dmesg | xclip"
[16:31] <coldReactive42> at the top
[16:31] <Brian____> Pici: when i try to reinstall linux and it gets to the partitioner part it doesnt want to install to my hard drive because it thinks my hard drive is my cdrom drive
[16:31] <tapas> to get it into the clipboard
[16:31] <Brian____> does that make sence
[16:31] <Pici> Brian____: Use the manual partitioning option then
[16:31] <tapas> coldReactive42: if xclip isn't installed, apt-get install xclip
[16:31] <tapas> coldReactive42: then go to: http://pastesite.com/
[16:31] <tapas> and middle click into the window labeled "your paste"
[16:31] <Brian____> i would have to unmount my hard drive first
[16:31] <tapas> then send us the result link
[16:31] <Linux> lik
[16:32]  * hbekel hands tapas a spoon
[16:32] <tapas> hbekel: :)
[16:32] <tapas> hbekel: thanks
[16:32] <tapas> it's needed here
[16:32] <coldReactive42> Dammit
[16:32] <coldReactive42> How do I get xclip clipboard info
[16:32] <coldReactive42> It didn't paste
[16:32] <tapas> coldReactive42: and cool down ffs, the world isn't ending with your scanner not working ;)
[16:32] <blackxored> where can i find help regarding offline updates with using apt-cacher-ng?
[16:33] <gcl__> hi, i've got a problem here... I've chosen a 1280x720 resolution for my 720p TV, but it reverts to a 1080i configuration. does any1 know how to fix this?
[16:33] <shadowwulf> what program for linux can i use in place for daemon tools
[16:33] <loki__> heya, anyone have a swap file size recomendation for a 1.5gb ram netbook (aspire one)? just upgraded from 512mb today
[16:34] <IdleOne> loki 2X your ram
[16:34] <icarus-c> what is the chat availability prediction plugin in Pidgin called?
[16:34] <shadowwulf> loki i have used the same size as the ram and had no rpoblem
[16:34] <shadowwulf> s
[16:34] <loki__> well thats what id do on a normal comp, but as its ssd (8gb) not sure if thats an overkill
[16:34] <coldReactive42> -_-
[16:34] <coldReactive42> ian@ian-desktop:~$ dmesg | xclip
[16:34] <coldReactive42> ian@ian-desktop:~$ dmesg | xclip
[16:34] <coldReactive42> ian@ian-desktop:~$ xclip --help
[16:34] <coldReactive42> xclip: --help: No such file or directory
[16:34] <FloodBot3> coldReactive42: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:34] <IdleOne> Loki, probably is a little overkill
[16:34] <Pici> loki__: At least as much swap as ram if you are planning on suspending the laptop to disk (hibernation)
[16:35] <minimec> loki__: I once decided not to give more then 512mb swap. I am quiet happy with that decision.
[16:35] <axisys> how do I make a ubuntu pkg from source? let me know if i should ask it to offtopic rather
[16:35]  * icarus-c has no swap at all
[16:35] <IdleOne> !packaging
[16:35] <jiohdi> anyone know how I can stop the wifi on my laptop from asking for a password for keyring on startup?
[16:35] <loki__> if im not hibernating then 1gb would probably be enough then
[16:36] <loki__> yeah, dont put a password in the first time it asks
[16:36] <Pici> loki__: You shouldn't need to increase swap at all if you don't plan on hibernating.
[16:36] <axisys> IdleOne: thanks a lot
[16:36] <jiohdi> loki, its too late for that, now how do I stop it
[16:36] <loki__> its 336 atmo, standard install os size
[16:36] <icarus-c> jiohdi: i did that by removing ~/.gnome2/keyrings/ :P
[16:36] <g3org3s> Hello .. when i install network manager,ubuntu wont connect to internet anymore, my ip is static , what could be the problem ?
[16:36] <loki__> not sure, must haveto remove the password somewhere
[16:37] <loki__> ill put it at 1.5gb for the mo and see if hibernate works, ty for the help :)
[16:38] <baldrick1> Is there a mount-vmfs utility available in Linux ?
[16:38] <shadowwulf> i need a linux version of daemon tools ... what is the name ??
[16:38] <baldrick1> I have some VMware vmfs file I need to mount and pull down files
[16:39] <baldrick1> on a recurring basis
[16:39] <Snake23> shadowwulf: would a command-line tool be ok?
[16:39] <baldrick1> tha twould be fine
[16:40] <Snake23> you can use mount
[16:40] <shadowwulf> Snake23: i would prefer a GUI one ... but i can try the command line ... trying to install a ISO
[16:40] <coldReactive42> http://pastesite.com/9857
[16:40] <Snake23> mount -o loop -t iso9660 file.iso /mountpoint
[16:41] <wesker> hi
[16:41] <Snake23> just create a folder before
[16:41] <majlap> ok ,can someone please tell me a GOOD url for commandline setup of wlan in jaunty ????
[16:41] <wesker> where can i download the lastes kermic koala beta??
[16:41] <baldrick1> But if I use standar mount do I not need the librarties to understand the FS
[16:41] <gcl__> hi, i've recently switched from VGA to HDMI, nd now my 720p TV displays a 1080i resolution even though its set to 1280x720. any ideas?
[16:41] <IdleOne> !karmic | wesker
[16:42] <wesker> ubottu: but exist a beta 3, isn't it ?
[16:42] <wesker> IdleOne:  but exist a beta 3, isn't it ?
[16:42] <IdleOne> wesker, #ubuntu+1
[16:42] <Snake23> ubottu:  really?
[16:42] <wesker> the link here, http://www.ubuntu.com/testing/karmic/alpha3#Download%20Alpha%203 is broken
[16:42] <IdleOne> wesker, support for karmic is in #ubuntu+1 not in here
[16:42] <majlap> !ot|majlap
[16:43] <wesker> ok, well thank you
[16:43] <IdleOne> your welcome
[16:43] <Nerd42> coldReactive42, you never answered my question :)
[16:43] <coldReactive42> And that was?
[16:44] <ret> with kernels > 2.6.28-12 when I'm done installing them I continue to get `avc_has_perm_no_audit kernel panic not syncing'
[16:44] <ret> after a rather long log
[16:44] <ret> then the keyboard becomes nonresponsive.
[16:44] <vinaygeorgian> hi
[16:45] <g3org3s> Is there a way to see the process list in terminal ?
[16:45] <FoolsRun> Hey, has anyone gotten Quickbooks (recent versions) working saving and opening files from a Samba share?
[16:45] <coldReactive42> top
[16:45] <Pici> g3org3s: ps aux
[16:45] <IdleOne> htop
[16:45] <coldReactive42> ;p
[16:46] <g3org3s> Can i use x11vnc if X is not installed on my ubuntu ?
[16:46]  * coldReactive42 is leaving since no one will help
[16:46] <axisys> how do I install karmic's puppet (0.24.8) http://packages.ubuntu.com/karmic/puppet in januty server? jaunty's puppet (0.24.5) is not stable ..
[16:47] <IdleOne> axisys, download the deb and double click it but chances are it wont work properly and might break stuff
[16:49] <vinaygeorgian> hi
[16:49] <IdleOne> whats the command to get info/description of a package?
[16:49] <Pici> IdleOne: apt-cache show packagename
[16:50] <IdleOne> Pici, thank you. btw info doesnt work :)
[16:50] <Pici> IdleOne: !info? Why?
[16:50] <IdleOne> Pici, apt-cache info package I meant
[16:50] <Pici> IdleOne: ah, right. thats not a command ;)
[16:50] <g3org3s> Can i use x11vnc if X is not installed on my ubuntu ?
[16:50] <th0r> g3org3s: you mean on the server? yes, you must have X on the server to be able to vnc into it
[16:51] <hbekel> Pici: info is not a command?
[16:51] <Pici> hbekel: 'apt-cache info' isn't valid
[16:51] <shadowwulf> is there any iso mounting software for linux that can be used as a GUI
[16:51] <shadowwulf> ??
[16:51] <Pici> shadowwulf: gisomount
[16:51] <IdleOne> Pici, show  is not very intuitive if you ask me but i am willing to adapt myself
[16:52] <rednano12_> try apt-cache showpkg [pkg]
[16:52] <Pici> rednano12_: Thats probably a bit too much information, also its not as nicely displayed.
[16:52] <shadowwulf> pici thanks
[16:53] <IdleOne> rednano12_, what I meant is that it seemed logical to me to use info as a command to show me info about a package.
[16:53] <rednano12_> Makes sense/
[16:53] <SaEeDIRHA> hello, i would like to install ubuntu 64bit because i have intel core 2 duo CPU, but when i want to download ubuntu 64bit it says it is for amd64 bit
[16:53] <rednano12_> It works though.
[16:53] <chutiya> gand mara
[16:53] <panfist> what's the appropriate umask for ssh keys?
[16:53] <SaEeDIRHA> can i still install amd64 bit on my intel laptop ?
[16:54] <spanther> i found a problem. While booting Ubuntu doesn't support my full screen resolution of 1920x1080, so the screen is smaller until the login window comes up
[16:54] <rednano12_> SaEeDIRHA: amd64 works on 64-bit intel.
[16:54] <Vlet> I just installed postfix, and would like all mail to<EMAIL_ADDRESS>to be directed to<EMAIL_ADDRESS>how would I go about doing that?
[16:54] <gnhk666> minimec: ok, out of my depth...
[16:54] <rednano12_> Well, it should.
[16:54] <SaEeDIRHA> without any problem ? i mean is it recommended ?
[16:54] <rednano12_> If you have a 64-bit processor, then you will get some optimizations.
[16:55] <Pici> SaEeDIRHA: Its only called AMD64 because AMD created the specification.
[16:55] <rednano12_> Definately do it if you have 4 GB of ram or more.
[16:55] <gnhk666> minimec: did first step in terminal no prob, even did second step...
[16:55] <shadowwulf> ok, what program can i use to mount bin or cue files ?
[16:55] <gnhk666> minimec: from there it goes to shit
[16:55] <spanther> SaEeDIRHA AMD invented the 64bit extensions Intel adapted and licensed too. so it's called AMD64 because of AMD extensions i think. It does work without any problem on any 64bit cappable Intel too :)
[16:55] <SaEeDIRHA> i see,
[16:55] <Pici> gnhk666: Please mind your language here.
[16:55] <minimec> gnhk666: did you read my last message to you?
[16:55] <minimec> gnhk666: Wait!! Check System-Administration-Hardware Drivers, to see if you can enable it. Ubuntu may have it onboard! http://nxadm.wordpress.com/2008/05/21/broadcom-wifi-bcm4312-speedup-on-ubuntu-804-on-a-hp-nc6320-laptop/
[16:55] <SaEeDIRHA> cool
[16:55] <SaEeDIRHA> thankx alot
[16:55] <bidossessi> spanther, it means ubuntu wasn't able to detect your screen size correctly for initrd. if you can manually correct the boot options in menu.lst, you should be able to recreate your initrd with the right size for your screen.
[16:56] <peol> rabidweezle: Any luck with quakelive fullscreen, or you didn't try yet? :P
[16:56] <lolek> hello all
[16:56] <spanther> bidossessi i'm not that skilled with the internals of linux hehe :)
[16:56] <gnhk666> minimec: system-admin-hardware drivers brings up nothing....
[16:56] <gnhk666> empty box
[16:56] <rednano12_> hello lolek.
[16:56] <lolek> rednano12_: hi
[16:56] <rabidweezle> peol, haven't tried since I have been spending all morning trying to rip this movie dvd for my son :(
[16:57] <rabidweezle> dvd::rip's transcoder hates me
[16:57] <bidossessi> spanther, then let it be, if it doesn't affect your usage of the machine?
[16:57] <gcl__> my 720p TV is displaying 1080i when i've set the resolution to 1280x720. any ideas?
[16:57] <lolek> guys i have a problem with ubuntu, it's 9.04 the lappie is amiloo mini ui3520, the problem is that i don't know how to disable the wifi led... :]
[16:57] <spanther> bidossessi no, it does jump to full 1080p when the login screen appears :)
[16:57] <minimec> gnhk666: So you could try the ndiswrapper way.
[16:57] <shadowwulf> ok, what program can i use to mount bin or cue files ?
[16:57] <lolek> shadowwulf: mount ?
[16:57] <minimec> !ndiswrapper > gnhk666
[16:57] <peol> rabidweezle: Ah, all right. Let me know if you get it working, seems to be no way around the second-screen-goes-into-sleep-mode thing unless you want to play in-browser (800x600-1024x768 only) :(
[16:58] <bidossessi> spanther, great. let sleeping dogs lie, after all, it works where it matters
[16:58] <spanther> bidossessi, hehe ^^
[16:58] <lolek> shadowwulf: if i remember correctly mount -o loop /pathfile.bin /mount/place
[16:58] <shadowwulf> lolek: need a GUi interface
[16:58] <icarus> how do i add gpg keys?
[16:58] <lolek> shadowwulf: what for ?
[16:59] <shadowwulf> lolek: trying to install from the bin file and need a gui interface so i can browse the DVD
[16:59] <gnhk666> minimec: i'm sorry, must be dense, but none of this makes any sense to me....
[16:59] <lolek> shadowwulf: well you just mount it in terminal.. after that you can browse it with nautilus..
[17:00] <lolek> p.s. any ideas about wifi led ?
[17:00] <IdleOne> !gpg
[17:02] <spanther> cool! the quakelive plugin runs and flash too (under 64bit ubuntu)
[17:02] <spiderpiglet> hi all, i have a problem getting my mic to work, using 9.04 not sure about the sound card, any ideas? I have tried mixing pulse and other methods but still no luck. ther outputs are working fine. Toshiba A200
[17:02] <icarus> IdleOne, no i need to add these keys
[17:02] <icarus> $ gpg --keyserver subkeys.pgp.net --recv 94C09C7F
[17:02] <icarus> $ gpg --fingerprint 94C09C7F
[17:02] <icarus> $ gpg --export 94C09C7F | sudo apt-key add -
[17:02] <icarus> $ sudo apt-get update
[17:02] <icarus> $ sudo apt-get upgrade
[17:02] <FloodBot3> icarus: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:03] <icarus> sorry
[17:03] <icarus-c> my friend has been banned : (
[17:03] <IdleOne> icarus, honestly I am not sure
[17:04]  * icarus-c is considering should he remove nick alert alias for "icarus"
[17:04] <icarus> how long am i banned
[17:05] <icarus> never mind
[17:05] <spiderpiglet> hehe
[17:05] <msichal> how was called the grub config file and where it is?
[17:06] <msichal> need quick answer
[17:06] <spiderpiglet> :-)
[17:06] <IdleOne> msichal, /boot/grub/meneu.lst and please be patient
[17:06] <zvacet> msichal : /boot/grub/menu.lst
[17:06] <IdleOne> msichal, /boot/grub/menu.lst and please be patient
[17:06] <msichal> ok thank u
[17:06] <spiderpiglet> hi, i have a problem getting my mic to work, using 9.04 not sure about the sound card, any ideas? I have tried mixing pulse and other methods but still no luck. ther outputs are working fine. Toshiba A200
[17:07] <icarus> so do i use terminal or something
[17:07] <icarus> because i tryed that and it did not work
[17:08] <msichal> and does someone know
[17:08] <msichal> how to turn EXT4 into EXT3 ?
[17:08] <icarus> gparted
[17:08] <msichal> no
[17:08] <icarus-c> msichal:: no way
[17:09] <icarus> i tryed
[17:09] <msichal> i just need to remove additional umm
[17:09] <msichal> things :P
[17:09] <urthmover> how do I restart the audio on jaunty64?
[17:09] <zvacet> icarus: in terminal http://paste.ubuntu.com/255801/
[17:09] <icarus> urthmover, plug in the speakers
[17:10] <urthmover> icarus: pfft nice
[17:10] <akshay> will it be ok run sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[17:10] <msichal> akshay, why not
[17:10] <zvacet> akshay : if you want kubuntu yes
[17:10] <urthmover> I hear the login sound but once I hit the desktop... no more audio
[17:10] <icarus> zvacet, and this will install the keys ?
[17:10] <zvacet> icarus : yes
[17:10] <IdleOne> akshay, yes but your menus will have a mix of kde and gnome apps
[17:10] <urthmover> seems to be connected with having compiz running possibly
[17:10] <Slart> msichal: not sure you can.. unless in some very special cases
[17:11] <akshay> kkkk
[17:11] <akshay> thanks
[17:11] <akshay> but wats the pachage size
[17:11] <zvacet> icarus : but do it one line at the time
[17:11] <akshay> pachage
[17:11] <msichal> i geard somewhere
[17:11] <akshay> package size
[17:11] <Slart> msichal: it's not like ext3/2
[17:11] <akshay> what will be the package size kubuntu-desktop
[17:11] <msichal> that u can just turn off additional things ftom EXT4 to make it READABLE like ext3
[17:12] <icarus> zvacet, do i inclode the one and the two?
[17:12] <msichal> i just need to read it from windoze
[17:12] <Slart> msichal: mm.. something like that.. but I'm not sure you can do that on an existing fs.. it would be something you do when you create it
[17:12] <zvacet> icarus : you have to use both of them but one at the time
[17:12] <Slart> msichal: at least that's the way I understand things
[17:12] <msichal> k
[17:12] <msichal> anyways
[17:13] <msichal> goodbye for now
[17:13] <akshay>  what will be the package size kubuntu-desktop
[17:13] <IdleOne> akshay, apt-cache show kubuntu-desktop
[17:13] <zvacet> akshay : ~ 400mb
[17:13] <akshay> thannks
[17:13] <akshay> kkkk
[17:14] <bucky> akshay: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop -s   to find out without installing
[17:14] <akshay> thanks
[17:14] <Pici> akshay, IdleOne: Thats a meta-pacakge, apt-cache show will not report the size with the dependencies taken into account.
[17:14] <icarus> zvacet, dude your awesome (Internet high five)
[17:14] <IdleOne> Pici, so how would I see the full installed size with depends?
[17:14] <zvacet> icarus :  8-)
[17:15] <llutz> IdleOne:  apt-get -s install kubuntu-desktop
[17:15] <IdleOne> llutz, Pici bucky thank you
[17:15] <llutz> IdleOne:  it will give you the size to download
[17:16] <gabe> hello, my amarok has stopped playing radio stations. What plugins are related to this function? could it be that I'm missing plugins?
[17:17] <IdleOne> llutz, that command listed all the packages that would be installed but no size
[17:17] <akshay> some body said 400 mb
[17:17] <akshay> but it is showing installed size to be 40 mb
[17:17] <karme> ciao
[17:18] <spiderpiglet> hi, microphone no working, googled but with no success
[17:18] <ray66> After activating splashscreen the images are on lower right hand corner ..How can I center images
[17:18] <llutz> IdleOne: sorry,  aptitude -s install kubuntu-desktop
[17:18] <devkhadka_> how do i know the version of installed pakages in ubuntu
[17:18] <gabe> hello, my amarok has stopped playing radio stations. What plugins are related to this function? could it be that I'm missing plugins?
[17:18] <llutz> IdleOne:  you're right, apt-get won't tell it :(
[17:18] <danbhfive> devkhadka_: apt-cache policy package
[17:19] <IdleOne> devkhadka_, apt-cache policy package
[17:19] <akshay> what is meta package
[17:19] <gabe> hello, my amarok has stopped playing radio stations. What plugins are related to this function? could it be that I'm missing plugins?
[17:19] <gabe> hello, my amarok has stopped playing radio stations. What plugins are related to this function? could it be that I'm missing plugins?
[17:19] <llutz> !patience |gabe
[17:19] <devkhadka_> IdleOne: thanx
[17:19] <akshay> what is meta package
[17:19] <IdleOne> llutz, thank you
[17:20] <IdleOne> akshay, a meta package is a file with a list of all the packages it needs to get
[17:20] <danbhfive> akshay: its a package that has dependencies, but doesn't install anything
[17:20] <gabe> sorry :(
[17:20] <icarus> zvacet, wait it did not work i get this message http://paste.ubuntu.com/
[17:20] <bucky> akshay: a meta package installs many other packages as a group
[17:20] <owner> Is there a way I can re-connect my gnome-terminal to a process previously opened in one that crashed? i was in the middle of a large aptitude install and restarted gdm. now i'd like to continue...
[17:20] <yva> Hi I'm trying to install the mathematica player on intrepid but got an error "Extraction failed. No space left on MathTmp"
[17:20] <akshay> thanku all
[17:21] <yva> However I got much more space than it need on both disk. Has somebody an idea of what the problem could be?
[17:21] <miksu> meta package could be ie. lamp, which installs Apache, MySQL and PHP, correct? :O
[17:21] <zvacet> icarus : sorry I don´t see any message at your pastebin
[17:21] <bucky> akshay After unpacking 1172MB will be used  that's besided the 339MB that will be stored in /var/cache/apt/archives/   do you have enough disk space?
[17:21] <IdleOne> miksu, yes
[17:21] <danbhfive> miksu: lamp is a task, not a meta package
[17:21] <akshay> yes
[17:21] <ray66> ! splashscreen
[17:21] <IdleOne> miksu, oops maybe not
[17:21] <Brian____> i would just do a normal install but i cant because my hard drive is mounted as a cdrom
[17:21] <miksu> alright, it was just an example..
[17:21] <devkhadka_> i have ubuntu 9.04 with pidgin 1:2.5.5 and i want to install new version coz it has vulnerability
[17:22] <icarus> zvacet,  yeah i messed up ( i cant evean do that right) this is the correct one
[17:22] <akshay> is it 11 gb
[17:22] <bucky> akshay: about 1.5G
[17:22] <icarus> zvacet, http://paste.ubuntu.com/255811/
[17:22] <akshay> then u wrote wrong
[17:22] <CarlFK> how do I redirect stderr to a file?  something like: dvgrab -d 1 -I pyohio.dv /tmp/dvg &2>foo.txt
[17:22] <zvacet> icarus : just be cool
[17:22] <yva> somebody got an idea?
[17:22] <akshay> kkkkkkk.........iam sorry
[17:22] <akshay> does any body know a package to get a dock exactly like that in mac
[17:23] <devkhadka_> i have ubuntu 9.0 4 with pidgin 1:2.5.5 and i want to install new version coz it has vulnerability how do i do it
[17:23] <VCoolio> akshay: cairo-dock or awn
[17:23] <llutz> CarlFK:  2>foo.txt without &
[17:23] <theatro> CarlFK, 2>
[17:23] <gpled> getting update notices. but the software "can't be authenticated!"
[17:23] <akshay> i have tried both
[17:23] <gpled> whats up with that?
[17:23] <akshay> they are not good
[17:23] <owner> I need a new gnome-terminal instance connected to a process ran earlier. that should be possible, right?
[17:23] <grawity> owner: Nope, it's not possible.
[17:23] <zvacet> icarus : wait a min
[17:23] <Flare-Laptop> gpled: You don't have the gpg key imported into your keyring
[17:23] <akshay> some other package..........pls
[17:24] <CarlFK> llutz: theatro: thanks.  I will swear I tried that, but yes, that works as desired.
[17:24] <devkhadka_> http://www.h-online.com/security/Critical-vulnerability-in-Pidgin-IM--/news/114036 i have ubuntu 9.0 4 with pidgin 1:2.5.5 and i want to install new version coz it has vulnerability how do i do it
[17:24] <gpled> Flare-Laptop: can you point me to some docs on that?
[17:24] <grawity> owner: In the future use the 'screen' or 'dtach' programs, they allow detaching and reattaching terminals at will.
[17:24] <grawity> devkhadka_: Go to http://pidgin.im/download/ubuntu/ and read the instructions.
[17:24] <Flare-Laptop> gpled: Yes, I can. Give me a few seconds
[17:25]  * gpled give time out :)
[17:25] <Zwitter> Anyone have a rtl8187 working under ubuntu karmic?
[17:25] <ray66> ! gconf-editor
[17:25] <miksu> i just installed xubuntu into my 350Mhz peace of crap and connected into my 40" wide TV, please let me know if you have an good idea for my xubuntu's function in my TV :D for now i
[17:25] <VCoolio> my virtual terminal (ctrl+alt+F1 etc) automatically loads screen, how to prevent it doing that?
[17:25] <urthmover> :-( my sound has stopped working.  I am running Jaunty 64bit.  Strangely, I hear the login drums, but once I am on a desktop I get no sound from any applications  What are the typical software troubleshooting steps I can take?  Is there a log that will show me if the sound is having trouble?
[17:25] <zvacet> icarus : did you run sudo apt-get update after those commands
[17:26] <akshay> does any body know a package to get a dock exactly like that in mac.................other than cairo and awn
[17:26] <owner> grawity: i was in the middle of aptitude full-upgrade from lenny to squeeze. should i kill it and start a new one? that don't sound right, does it?
[17:26] <icarus> zvacet, nope
[17:26] <danbhfive> akshay: whats wrong with cairo and awn?
[17:27] <grawity> owner: Is it downloading packages, or installing them?
[17:27] <akshay> they does not give the real look or feel of mac
[17:27] <yva> could it be due to the encoding of the disk?
[17:27] <grawity> akshay: Then buy a Mac, ffs.
[17:27] <icarus> akshay, like this http://www.flickr.com/photos/mskadu/2459390671/
[17:27] <akshay> heheheheeeeeeeee
[17:27] <bucky> !topic | owner
[17:27] <zvacet> icarus : do it and maybe http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1137106&page=2 is what are you looking for
[17:27] <urthmover> akshay: docky is similar
[17:27] <Zwitter> register ander2303son<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[17:28] <miksu> i buy a lollypop for one who invents an function for my crappy xubuntu PC (350Mhz, 192Mb) :D
[17:28] <akshay> what is docky
[17:28] <owner> grawity: it has already setup about 70% of them and then restarted gdm on me. that's when i lost the terminal. who would have thought i should have ran that from bash outside of gnome...
[17:28] <grawity> Zwitter: That didn't work...
[17:28] <akshay>  what is docky
[17:28] <urthmover> akshay: docky is something that google can help with
[17:28] <grawity> Zwitter: Try /query nickserv
[17:28] <akshay> kkkkkkk
[17:28] <Zwitter> kkk
[17:28] <icarus> zvacet, that update thing did the trick
[17:28] <VCoolio> akshay: search for gnome-do
[17:28] <owner> ubottu: anything inappropriate on your end?
[17:28] <grawity> owner: If it's installing, I think you could just wait until it finishes.
[17:28] <bucky> owner: this isn't #debian
[17:29] <zvacet> icarus :  ;)
[17:29] <icarus> zvacet, cross your fingers
[17:29] <owner> grawity: yeah, but it needs attendance - confirmation and configuration. i don't think it'll finish based on time-out of no-input
[17:30] <miksu> anyone knows how i change my ssh port, for now im just blocking the port 23 in my NAT in case of 23-port bot spammers
[17:30] <zvacet> icarus : did you read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/TOR
[17:30] <grawity> miksu: Edit /etc/ssh/sshd_config, then restart sshd.
[17:30] <miksu> grawity: oh thx mate, i'll check it
[17:30] <G-Norris> Anyone that I could try to assist?
[17:30] <urthmover> :-( my sound has stopped working.  I am running Jaunty 64bit.  Strangely, I hear the login drums, but  once I am on a desktop I get no sound from any applications  What are the typical software  troubleshooting steps I can take?  Is there a log that will show me if the sound is having trouble?
[17:30] <perini_> E: sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (2) appears when I do apt-get -u dist-upgrade
[17:30] <urthmover> what is a good way to test sound other than playing something in vlc
[17:30] <perini_> how to fix it?
[17:30] <bucky> miksu: why would you block your telnet port?
[17:31] <VCoolio> my virtual terminal (ctrl+alt+F1 etc) automatically loads screen, how to prevent it doing that?
[17:31] <MaskedDriver> perini_, do you have another package manager open?
[17:31] <icarus> zvacet, yes i just had a bit of troube with the gpg keys (and aperently paste bin )
[17:31] <grawity> owner: When I kill dpkg during package installation, on next run it gives me a command to continue the configuration.
[17:31] <zvacet> urthmover : system>preferences<sound
[17:31] <Wincerind> jetzt sind meine nägel gestuzt
[17:31] <grawity> miksu: What are you trying to do, and why? Explain please
[17:31] <urthmover> zvacet: ok checking there
[17:31] <Wincerind> \o/
[17:31] <owner> bucky: since when isn't ubuntu debian? apropos, the topic in question applies to both, doesn't it?
[17:31] <mralexandro> i have a dell xps m1330 and ubuntu 9.04. i would like to know how i can check wheter my integrated microphone is installed or not
[17:31] <zvacet> icarus : so you should be good now
[17:32] <G-Norris> Can i try to help someone?
[17:32] <bucky> !debian | owner
[17:32] <miksu> grawity: sorry, i meant port #22 not 23 :)
[17:32] <perini_> MaskedDriver: no, I don't have another package manager opened.
[17:32] <miksu> grawity: the port which you usually log in in ssh, right?
[17:32] <owner> grawity: dpkg ain't aptitude though, i think i'm off to backup while booted-up in case things don't turn out well
[17:32] <MaskedDriver> perini_, are you putting sudo first?
[17:33] <grawity> miksu: Yes, 22 is the default port for ssh, but why do you want to block it?
[17:33] <grawity> owner: But all of them - apt, aptitude, synaptic - just call dpkg for each package.
[17:33] <perini_> yes sudo apt-get -u dist-upgrade
[17:33] <grawity> miksu: 22 is for SSH. 25 is for SMTP (mail sending).
[17:33] <urthmover> zvacet: when I click the test button I hear nothing....but as I said earlier I did hear the drums at my login prompt
[17:33] <Pseudo_Bob> Hey so who wants to help me figure out why I have no sound?
[17:34] <miksu> grawity: just for security reasons i'll change the default ports and open the ssh custom port
[17:34] <MaskedDriver> miksu, ssh is secure
[17:34] <owner> bucky: thanks, but what? how is my question unrelated, or otherwise distracting to you? besides the fact that i have mentioned lenny/squeeze. should have i said just aptitude full-upgrade you wouldn't be taking up time, would you now?
[17:34] <grawity> miksu: That will only protect against the dumbest crackers.
[17:34] <miksu> grawity: yeah but bots might try to login thru it
[17:34] <MaskedDriver> miksu, there is no need to change the port.  make sure you have a good password and you won't have any problems
[17:34] <grawity> miksu: If you're afraid of "bots", just use good passwords.
[17:34] <llutz> miksu:  no need to block any port where no service listens
[17:34] <grawity> miksu: Read about SSH public keys.
[17:34] <owner> grawity: good point, i'll do some research on that option, seems promising...
[17:35] <MaskedDriver> miksu, if a hacker REALLY wants in your system, they're going to get in no matter what you do
[17:35] <miko1> hello...
[17:35] <larsaaaa> Hi! Adobe flash capture keyboard input while only hover the element! Anyone know how to avoid this?
[17:35] <miko1> I have some problems installing hercules video cam in my ubuntu 9.04 system...
[17:35] <miko1> is anyone cappable to help here?...
[17:36] <urthmover> hmm sound works in Skype and at the login prompt but nowhere else....what can I do to resole this?
[17:36] <grawity> miksu, MaskedDriver: "Hackers", as you call them, can run nmap against your system in a minute, and instantly see what ports are used.
[17:36] <Shoplifter> yo
[17:36] <ltcabral> hey... i made a system the company i work for, to update and syncronize the internal repositories with the packages that are produced here. The system is composed basicaly by some perl scripts. Do someone have suggestions on how to document it, based on similar projects? What ive done until now is a tutorial for the users.
[17:36] <MaskedDriver> grawity, exactly.. that's why I said if they REALLY want in, they're going to get in... blocking 22 and changing SSH port isn't going to do anything
[17:36] <larsaaaa> urthmover: have a look in control panel and sound devices?
[17:37] <llutz> changing ports is security by obscurity
[17:37] <MaskedDriver> llutz, +1 plus it can cause all kinds of confusion
[17:37] <bucky> owner apt-get -f install    then /join #debian
[17:37] <miko1> urthmover: what kind of problem are experiencing?...
[17:37] <perini_> E: sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (2) appears when I do apt-get -u dist-upgrade, how to fix it?
[17:37] <llutz> it might empty the logs, not more
[17:37]  * grawity remembers zf05
[17:37] <larsaaaa> llutz: well, in most cases it helps alot :)
[17:37] <Shoplifter> anyone knows a ince webinterface that i could use in a SFTP server?
[17:37] <Shoplifter> *nice
[17:37] <miksu> it's just that i'm still "scared" a bit cause' they're trying to spam login thru SSH (even tho i have strong passwords), so i was just wondering to change the port, anyway the % of change to login is realy low
[17:37] <llutz> larsaaaa:  not in a security point of view
[17:37] <miko1> perini_: try-> aptitude safe-upgrade
[17:37] <devkhadka_> where do i register my nick for freenode
[17:38] <IdleOne> !register
[17:38] <urthmover> miko1: I do not hear sound from many apps.  I do hear sound when I login and on Skype.  but not in vlc or when I use preferences > sound > test button
[17:38] <grawity> devkhadka_: use /msg nickserv register YourPassword YourEmail
[17:38] <grawity> devkhadka_: #freenode can help with that.
[17:38] <Dark-Star> can someone tell me where I can find the xorg.conf file and/or the x server log files on (x)ubuntu 9.10?
[17:38] <larsaaaa> llutz: at least you can avoid some automated attacks,
[17:38] <miko1> urthmover: you mean with music you've got problems right?..
[17:39] <MaskedDriver> miksu, lol did you make someone angry?  I've been running my server for 3 years and have never been attacked like that
[17:39] <urthmover> miko1: music or videos or ubuntu sound events
[17:39] <perini_> E: sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (2) appears when I do apt-get -u dist-upgrade.   Just make sure your password isn't god or admin or password or 1234 or something stupid
[17:40] <devkhadka_> grawity: should i register my nick for different chanels or i have to register in freenode and thats works for all
[17:40] <Flomar> swapy, are you there?
[17:40] <Shoplifter> no one?
[17:40] <MadGirl> hmmm... no one is bolded in the party window
[17:40] <miksu> MaskedDriver: yeah or "changethis"
[17:40] <miksu> :D
[17:40] <malnilion> devkhadka_, you're good registering with freenode
[17:40] <MaskedDriver> miksu, +1
[17:40] <IdleOne> devkhadka_, register for freenode and it is network wide
[17:40] <swapy> Flomar, yes
[17:40] <alinux> hi I get permission denied when uninstalling ffmpeg as root, Iget can not remove ffplay ....adding to that permissions are rwxr-xr-x...I did try chmod 777 but I got chmod: changing permissions of `/usr/bin/ffplay': Operation not permitted
[17:40] <swapy> speak
[17:40] <grawity> devkhadka_: Registration is network-wide.
[17:40] <urthmover> miko1: if I can get the System > Preferences > Sound Preferences ... test buttons and such to work  I think that will solve my problems.
[17:40] <miko1> urthmover: is it codecs problem?.. or you can't hear nothing at all...
[17:41] <swapy> Flomar, speak
[17:41] <grawity> alinux: Try 'lsattr /usr/bin/ffplay'
[17:41] <urthmover> miko1: I hear nothing when I press the Test buttons ..(any of them) on my Sound Preferences
[17:41] <miko1> urthmover: go to: system -> preferencies -> sound preferencies
[17:41] <miko1> urthmover: try to use different modules...
[17:42] <Flomar> swapy, i installed envyng and selected the recommended driver 180.44-0ubuntu2
[17:42] <Dark-Star> IdleOne: thanks for the pointer but I don't want to change my resolution, I want to change the xorg driver and/or set driver options (xaa for example)
[17:42] <larsaaaa> alinux: try chown root:root somefile?
[17:42] <perini_> E: sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (2) appears when I do apt-get -u dist-upgrade how to fiz it?
[17:42] <Flomar> after that, i didn`t reboot the system and then the screen messed up, i got renderization errors and all windows from the screen messed up
[17:42] <miko1> urthmover: for example: use ALSA, then try with OSS, switch different modules and le me know if something works..
[17:42] <devkhadka_> how do i change my password for nickserver
[17:42] <Dark-Star> IdleOne: also, the wiki says something about editing the /etc/X11/xorg.conf, but my system doesn't even have this file, so where does xorg take it's config from?
[17:42] <Flomar> now i rebooted and the system appears to be find
[17:43] <miko1> alinux: hey, are you that guy from Georgia?...
[17:43] <Horrid> Find out the true statistics on the crimes that negroes commit at Chimp Out Forum!   http://chimpout.com/forum/showthread.php?t=9680    We are not White Supremacists, rather we are Negro Inferiorists.  We welcome all races that aren't Negroid.  The criteria for joining Chimpout: Non-negroid and hates niggggras!
[17:43] <IdleOne> Dark-Star, not certain sorry
[17:43] <Flomar> fine
[17:43] <urthmover> miko1: ok OSS ones work.  is that going to be a problem that ALSA or autodetect does not work?
[17:43] <miksu> btw, anyone knows how i create custom resolution, im not sure does my TV support resolition 960x600 but i want to try since my resolution now is too high (i cant read text very well 3m away from TV)
[17:43] <miko1> urthmover: yes, exactly.. :-)
[17:43] <zvacet> Horrid :! language
[17:43] <miko1> urthmover: use OSS and relax.. :-D
[17:43] <Flomar> swapy, i have already used that driver before and this driver dont freeze x, but i`ve got renderization errors, all windows messed up...
[17:44] <swapy> lol
[17:44] <urthmover> miko1: ok thanks for your help
[17:44] <zvacet> !language | Horrid
[17:44] <miko1> urthmover: you're welcome... ;-)
[17:44] <eltese> Hi. Im using AWN and I get this message whenever I run
[17:45] <urthmover> miko1: ugg still no sound in vlc .... or xbmc  I guess I have to go manually configure them to use OSS now too?
[17:45] <G-Norris> bye everyone. have a great day8-)
[17:45] <thiebaude> eltese: what is the error message?
[17:45] <Flomar> using the Nvicia X Settings it gives me an error to save to xorg.conf
[17:45] <MadGirl> i guess the error message is exactly this: "Cannot add provide '" provide "', as a service with the same name exists", i get it multiple times when booting
[17:45] <G-Norris>
[17:45] <eltese> Hi.  Please run compiz" anyone know how to fix this ?
[17:46] <eltese> thiebaude:   I get the error msg "Screen isn't composited. Please run compiz"
[17:46] <spanther> Is "PlayOnLinux" supported in Ubuntu 9.04 64bit?
[17:46] <papadopc> having privilege problems with the network, any suggestions?
[17:46] <ranjan> eltese: it can be removed by gconf-editor
[17:46] <miksu> i think im feeling playing SimCity 4, yiihaa \o/ buy guys, nice to chat with you
[17:46] <miko1> urthmover: vlc somewhere there should have option to change default module...
[17:46] <eltese> ranjan: ok ? How do I do that ? :P
[17:46] <VCoolio> ok, last try: my virtual terminal (ctrl+alt+F1 etc) automatically loads screen, how to prevent it doing that?
[17:46] <miko1> urthmover: switch it use OSS instead of ALSA..
[17:46] <ranjan> pls wait let me see..just a minute
[17:46] <miko1> alinux: are you here man?..
[17:47] <urthmover> miko1: there is  I've got vlc working using OSS .... now I'm digging around in XBMC.....I wonder what has happened that Auto (in sound preferences has stopped working)
[17:47] <Flomar> swapy, i`ll work here ... if it behaves improperly i`ll tell you... but don`t have big hope that it work... =/
[17:47] <Curtis_B> is anyone using python as a replacement for bash scripting?
[17:47] <miko1> urthmover: there could be lots of problems...
[17:47] <papadopc> can anyone help with this? only root connects to the internet
[17:47] <Lartza_> I need to get windows .FON file to work in ubuntu, wine. I have converted it to bdf, pcf and pcf.gz too
[17:48] <urthmover> ok miko1 I'll just deal with it
[17:48] <Lartza_> How do I install the fon or one of the converted ones?
[17:48] <ranjan> eltese: do u know to launch gconf-editor??
[17:48] <swapy> Flomar, hmm continue
[17:48] <bersama> lilo
[17:48] <yesudeep> We use apt-cacher-ng at work to cache packages for Ubuntu.  However, setting up a proxy for apt does not let us use the GNOME proxy settings.  Setting up the GNOME Network proxy settings overrides the apt proxy settings and apt-cacher-ng then does not cache anything as a result.  How do we work around this problem?
[17:48] <urthmover> miko1: thanks for giving me something to work with
[17:48] <eltese> ranjan: nope
[17:48] <ranjan> just press alt+F2
[17:48] <miko1> urthmover: you're welcome, always glad to be helpful... :-)
[17:48] <eltese> ranjan: gksudo gconf-editor ? =)
[17:49] <miko1> urthmover: sorry, i have to go now....
[17:49] <miko1> bb all...
[17:49] <VCoolio> eltese: no need for sudo
[17:49] <scunizi> Is there an easy method of controlling mouse speed and sensitivity independant from the touch pad settings?
[17:49] <thiebaude> !gksudo
[17:49] <Lartza_> !pcf
[17:49] <ret> does the ubuntu 64bit installer live cd have an option for full disk encryption
[17:49] <awaad> I downloaded the netbeans as a ascript from his website and when I try to install it , an error message appears
[17:49] <Lartza_> !bdf
[17:49] <awaad> No X11 DISPLAY variable was set, but this program performed an operation which requires it.
[17:49] <Lartza_> !Fonts
[17:50] <awaad> Any one can help ??
[17:50] <eltese> ranjan: is that how I do it ?
[17:50] <yesudeep> So does anybody have an idea about allowing GNOME to use a different proxy than apt-get?
[17:50] <ret> does the ubuntu 64bit installer live cd have an option for full disk encryption
[17:50] <ranjan> eltese: just press alt+F2 and then gconf-editor in the box
[17:50] <eltese> ranjan: done
[17:50] <scunizi> yesudeep: you mean you want to use a different server for apt-get?
[17:50] <yesudeep> scunizi: yes
[17:50] <ranjan> eltese: we dont require root previleges so dont use gksudo
[17:50] <Lartza_> Is there any mathematics program for ubuntu?
[17:51] <eltese> ranjan: ok, I didnt :) Im there now :)
[17:51] <ranjan> now navigate to apps>avant-window-navigator
[17:51] <eltese> ranjan: yup
[17:51] <Lartza_> SOmething that can easily do indexes
[17:51] <scunizi> yesudeep: that can be changed in Synaptic Package manager.. where the server is listed you can change it there or have it search for the fastest server based on your "location"
[17:51] <Dark-Star> can someone tell me where I can find the xorg.conf file and/or the x server log files on (x)ubuntu 9.10?
[17:51] <Jlone> morning all
[17:51] <Lartza_> How do I do number indexes?
[17:51] <ranjan> eltese: now navigate to apps>avant-window-navigator
[17:51] <VCoolio> Dark-Star: /etc/X11/xorg.conf and logs in /var/log I guess
[17:52] <ret> does the ubuntu 64bit installer live cd have an option for full disk encryption
[17:52] <scunizi> ret: only the alternate installer I believe
[17:52] <ranjan> eltese: now in the right pane u can see show_dialog_if_non_composited
[17:52] <awaad> How can I solve this error message, No X11 DISPLAY variable was set, but this program performed an operation which requires it.??
[17:52] <ranjan> eltese: remove the tick mark from there
[17:52] <Dark-Star> VCoolio: well, you might have guessed that I already looked there. in fact there's no xorg.conf under /etc/ at all. Also no logs under /var/log/...
[17:52] <ret> scunizi: that's disappointing
[17:52] <ranjan> eltese: done :-)
[17:52] <yesudeep> scunizi: Well, that's the primary distribution server that Ubuntu runs.  We have a package caching server that runs apt-cacher-ng (acts as a proxy for packages) and squid3 for the web proxy.  I'd like to be able to cache packages using apt-cacher-ng and web content using squid.
[17:52] <eltese> ranjan: ok, ty =)
[17:53] <Dark-Star> that's why I'm asking here ;-)
[17:53] <eltese> ranjan: but what does the error message mean ? There isnt anything actually wrong I hope ? =)Thanks for the help :)
[17:53] <scunizi> yesudeep: you just went well beyond my experience.. sorry
[17:53] <VCoolio> Dark-Star: maybe they changed things in Karmic, ask in #ubuntu+1 then
[17:53] <yesudeep> scunizi: Right now we have package caching configured.  I cannot set up GNOME proxy settings because it conflicts with the apt-get proxy settings
[17:53] <yesudeep> scunizi: oh. no problem.
[17:53] <ranjan> eltese: k bye
[17:54] <watshisname> Hi Folks, Got a question for tecchies.  I have a asus eepc (4glinux) and have had netbook remix on it for 3 months or so . It only has a 4 gig sd hard drive and its now getting a bit full ...the question is ..can i resise the partition to include a additional 4 gig sd card?? in order to give me more room
[17:54] <shovon> My wireless is able to detect my wireless network, but isn't able to connect.
[17:54] <shovon> Any help please?
[17:54] <ranjan> eltese: the problem is that awn requires the screen to be composited by programs like compiz or beryl
[17:54] <eltese> ranjan: ok
[17:55] <scunizi> yesudeep: if the settings are in different files I'd think you should be able to manipulate them manually (read cli access of the .conf files).. but I'm just guessing.
[17:55] <yesudeep> scunizi: I already have the configuration set.  It's just that GNOME overrides the settings for apt
[17:55] <VCoolio> eltese: if you don't use compiz you can also set metacity to do some basic compositing (also in gconf-editor)
[17:55] <ranjan> eltese: and what happens here is that compiz quits before awn and awn doesnt sees the screen composited thereby the error message ...is it clear :-)
[17:55] <Flomar> swapy are you there?
[17:55] <yesudeep> Perhaps I should look more into the documentation
[17:56] <Flomar> i`m really sad with nvidia drivers in my ubuntu
[17:56] <Flomar> any x system / video card specialist?
[17:56] <ranjan> Flomar: what happend to nvidia driver??
[17:57] <Flomar> ranjan, it`s giving renderization errors, all windows messe up
[17:57] <Flomar> and then i need to reboot
[17:57] <Flomar> or go to a console and then back to x windows
[17:57] <ranjan> do u have the nvidia settings manager installed??
[17:57] <Flomar> yes
[17:58] <Flomar> i dont know maybe i need to tune up some setings
[17:58] <ranjan> Flomar: do u have the nvidia settings manager installed??
[17:58] <Flomar> ranjan, yes
[17:58] <Flomar> ranjan, now my screen is ok because i`ve gone to console and then back to x, but in a few minutes it mess up all windows...
[17:58] <majnoon> got gnome sorta working with e16 but regular gnome not working
[17:59] <Flomar> nvidia settings is open...
[17:59] <ranjan> Flomar: i didnt get the actual problem u are facing
[17:59] <Flomar> ranjan, i`m getting a error when i try to save to xorg.conf
[17:59] <ranjan> Flomar: what error
[17:59] <Flomar> ranjan, can we pvt
[17:59] <ranjan> Flomar: k
[18:00] <Flomar> ranjan, ``failed to parse existing x config file`
[18:01] <majnoon> what is DEAULT gnome WM ??
[18:01] <IdleOne> majnoon, gnome
[18:01] <grawity> majnoon: Metacity.
[18:01] <th0r> majnoon: metacity
[18:01] <thiebaude> !wm
[18:02] <majnoon> i'll try reinstalling that thanks
[18:02] <Pseudo_Bob> Hey, I followed these instructions to update my Alsa driver: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=2798055#post2798055 and now I can't pull up alsamixer at all.  Can anyone tell me why/ help me reverse it if possible?
[18:03] <raven_> hello - i'd like to buy a tascam 144 midi/audio interface but i just read that there are patches for intrepid - do you have any information to let it work with jaunty? tnx
[18:04] <Keiffer> how do i protect my pc against nmap scans / os fingerprinting?
[18:04] <alec868> I changed my screen resolution to connect to a second monitor, and now the old resolution is no longer an option in display settings. can anyone help?
[18:04] <grawity> Keiffer: Basically, you cannot.
[18:04] <felix> Hey, how can i remove the help enteties from the startupmenu ?
[18:04] <Keiffer> :(
[18:04] <grawity> Keiffer: Other than unplugging the cable, obviously
[18:05]  * Keiffer going to the caves
[18:05] <kelli> how do i get gnash player?
[18:05] <thiebaude> !gnash
[18:06] <dedosoa> help please
[18:06] <thiebaude> kelli: let me know if gnash works?
[18:06] <spo> Is there a good dvd ripper that rips the whole dvd without trying to shrink the dvd?   k9copy tries to shrink the dvd while ripping it... i think all other ubuntu based ones do something similra to trying to re-encode or shirnk dvd ... i think the best solution is  dvd decrypter under wine even though dvd decrypter is outdated
[18:07] <felix> Hey, how can i remove the helplinks from the startupmenu?, last gnome, thank you
[18:07] <dedosoa> my ubuntu says that i have 0 bytes of space left in every directorie
[18:07] <manawyddan> Hi Everyone. I just updated my Ubuntu 8.04 AMD version including the most up to date kervel version...
[18:07] <kelli> thiebaude, dont know how to get it?
[18:07] <Ianbeyer> I'm trying to do AD authentication on this test box, following the winbind howto from the ubuntu site. The log is showing that the domain user was granted access via winbind, but then ssh shows passowrd failed. I also can no longer log in via ssh with a local account
[18:07] <manawyddan> but it's crashing.
[18:07] <spo> dedosoa ,  do you have space left?
[18:07] <dedosoa> yes
[18:07] <thiebaude> kelli: is it in synaptic?
[18:07] <Ianbeyer> even on the console, i get an authentican failure
[18:07] <Ianbeyer> er, authentication
[18:08] <kelli> thiebaude, new to linux
[18:08] <mac> Although the package download Flash from the site, but the flash is not play
[18:08] <sivang> hi all
[18:08] <silv3r_m00n> hi there
[18:08] <lifeainteasy> hey guys,  i dont know what to do windows cannot be found on my second hard drive
[18:08] <spo> dedosoa, reboot doesn't fix it?
[18:08] <mac> ubuntu 9
[18:08] <mac> 9.04
[18:08] <sivang> anybody know how can I paste code (python) in neatly looking way into blogspot ?
[18:08] <alec868> mac: are you trying to play flash games or watch video? what browser are you using
[18:08] <dedosoa> haven't tried yet
[18:09] <dedosoa> i had a lot of problems
[18:09] <silv3r_m00n> on my netbook .....using netbook remix .........the screen goes dim after some hours of inactivity .....and glows less when on battery........how to change these settings
[18:09] <dedosoa> with firefox
[18:09] <Roland> Hi everybody. I'm using rhythmbox/vlc and creative xmod is my sound card(USB connection). When I move my mouse around on Gnome-Do panel(docky). Music gets choppy. Anyone else seen something like this?
[18:09] <felix> exit
[18:09] <VCoolio> kelli: it's in the universe repository; check if you have those enabled in system > admin > software sources; after that search for it in system > admin > synaptic
[18:09] <mac> alec868: firefox
[18:09] <manawyddan> when i restart de PC it tries to load de most up to date kernel but it just crashes.
[18:10] <dedosoa> i try to reboot
[18:10] <kelli> VCoolio, i'm new dont know how
[18:11] <manawyddan> I've loaded Linux manawyddan-desktop 2.6.24-23-generic #1 SMP Wed Apr 1 21:43:24 UTC 2009 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[18:11] <manawyddan> ...but can't seem to load Linux manawyddan-desktop 2.6.24-24-generic #1 SMP Wed Apr 1 21:43:24 UTC 2009 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[18:11] <vinaygeorgian> hi
[18:11] <VCoolio> kelli: open up software sources; then in the first tab check the second box (with universe mentioned); then open up synaptic, find gnash in the list, right click the box in front of it, choose install then hit apply
[18:12] <spo> ubuntu doesn't use inetd, does it?
[18:12] <manawyddan> ...it passes GRUB but that's it, just gets stuck, doesn't the new kernel.
[18:13] <alec868> mac: I had the same problem ttrying to watch streaming video. are you trying to download adobe flash player? i dont know if this is your problem, and if this will help, but i tried everthing and in the end i went into synaptic and uninstalled everything having to do with flash, and then reinstalled on package at a time, and it worked. i think it was just redundancys.
[18:13] <JuJuBee> Whenever I run the software update tool, I see that I have 51 or so Blocked Updates.  Is that due to having backports loaded?
[18:13] <alec868> can anyone help me fix my screen resolution? i changed my resolution and now i cant go back to my old settings
[18:14] <blue0488> I have a pc that has no hdd and no cdd but I have this pc I want to have the empty pc connect to this one and use its own os how do I do that?
[18:15] <jondavis_> hay does anybody know how i can get a shell account for ubuntu linux
[18:16] <heroid> join #leo_rockway
[18:16] <heroid> for more help
[18:16] <tonii> jondavis_: just google for "linux shell"
[18:16] <ginger> GAYVARNA
[18:17] <vinaygeorgian> hi
[18:18] <alec868> can someone help me get my display resolution back to normal?
[18:18] <IdleOne> !fixres
[18:21] <ischliky> anyone know what service i could restart instead of having to restart the whole computer to get my laptops speaker jack to sense the pressence of speakers/headphones
[18:21] <torn> My wireless adapter on Ubuntu 9.04 works just fine at my house and other homes, as well. No problems. But I can't connect to a free open/public wireless access point. Here is what dmesg reveals: http://pastebin.com/d306f4f81
[18:22] <raven_> hello - i'd like to buy a tascam us-144 midi/audio interface but i just read that there are patches for intrepid - do you have any information to let it work with jaunty? tnx
[18:22] <lily_shu> hi. i just downloaded world of goo .tar.bz2. and i don't know how to install it. help..
[18:23] <Zwitter> just download the .deb file
[18:24] <Zwitter> its easy to install
[18:24] <kimo> hello
[18:25] <torn> Any idea on the wireless issue?
[18:26] <kimo> hello
[18:26] <FireVai> good day everyone... i need some help please... i installed ubuntu inside windows... did a system update.. which updated the kernel and headders... now i get no boot screen.. can someone help please?
[18:26] <FireVai> i'm booted in a live cd atm
[18:26] <ltcabral> hm... if i run a command with a \ in the end, can i continue it in the next line ?
[18:27] <grawity> ltcabral: On bash - yes.
[18:27] <torn> FireVai, are you able to see the GRUB bootloader?
[18:27] <FireVai> no
[18:27] <ltcabral> grawity: the command is:
[18:27] <FireVai> i get system disk failure.. please insert system disk
[18:27] <ltcabral> grawity: cpan DBI Sys::Hostname Getopt::Std Dir::Self Cwd File::Basename File::Spec List::MoreUtils File::Grep \
[18:27] <ltcabral> List::Util XML::Simple IO::Uncompress::Gunzip Net::SCP Term::ReadKey Test::Trap
[18:27] <torn> FireVai, what is the first thing you see after your computer POSTs?
[18:27] <torn> Oh.
[18:27] <grawity> ltcabral: It doesn't really matter what's the command, it only matters where you run it.
[18:28] <FireVai> shows irq lists, then tries to go to grub and stops
[18:28] <grawity> ltcabral: \ works in the default shell.
[18:28] <Pici> ltcabral: Why do you need to put a linefeed there anywhere?
[18:28] <Pici> ltcabral: er, anyway?
[18:28] <torn> FireVai, you can try repairing grub via your LiveCD.
[18:28] <FireVai> ok is there a readme for that?
[18:28] <ltcabral> Pici: because im making a documentation and the full comand is too big for a page width
[18:29] <ltcabral> Pici: so if the user copy and paste, it wont work without a \
[18:29] <Pici> ltcabral: Why not try doing the command and see what happens?
[18:29] <unj> !flash
[18:29] <jereme> I mistakenly wiped out my /var/cache directory... is there any hope for salvaging my install or just I just get into the idea of reinstalling?
[18:29] <torn> FireVai, try here: http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/ubuntu/reinstall-ubuntu-grub-bootloader-after-windows-wipes-it-out/
[18:29] <FireVai> ok thank you
[18:29] <ltcabral> Pici: its going to execute just the first line
[18:30] <grawity> jereme: /var/cache is, well, cache. It usually can be recreated automatically.
[18:30] <Pici> ltcabral: Make sure that you aren't putting any spaces after the \, just press enter afterwards
[18:30] <noodles12> I got a white macbook with no OS on it. I tried loading a few ubuntu livecd's. Different versions. intrepid ibex, hardey heron, kubuntu 7.10... none of them will load the live cd. they would freeze midway through the setup or just sit with a blinking white cursor
[18:30] <torn> FireVai, never have installed Ubuntu within Windows. It seems too risky for me. I prefer to have my OSes seperate, on different partitions.
[18:30] <ltcabral> Pici: okay
[18:30] <jereme> graw, yeah you'd think, but notsomuch
[18:30] <jereme> my system is vomiting on itself
[18:30] <jereme> it won't boot
[18:30] <jereme> I had to nurse apt back to health
[18:30] <grawity> O_o
[18:31] <aaron11> what is the code we have to type in the terminal to findout more about your Graphics card
[18:31] <FireVai> yeah i tried that torn.. tried 5x lol.. took hda and made 2 pars like usual.. installed winblows.. then put ubuntu on the second par ... i couldnt get it to boot
[18:31] <aaron11> !terminal
[18:31] <jereme> all I can think is to search for any package I have installed that includes a /var/cache folder and force reinstall them
[18:32] <aaron11> what is the code we have to type in the terminal to findout more about your Graphics card
[18:32] <aaron11> helo
[18:32] <torn> aaron11, try this: lspci -v
[18:32] <aaron11> ok
[18:32] <strange> hey guys, reinstalled my box but for some reason mdadm is screwing around my md0 isnt assembling correct and i have a feeling its due to this weird device thats created called /dev/md0p1, anyone have any suggestions?
[18:32] <torn> Or better: lspci -v | less
[18:32] <FireVai> uggg grrrr...
[18:32] <torn> ("less" lets you scroll up and down)
[18:33] <Zwitter> hi
[18:34] <FireVai> torn:  that didnt work.. when i do setup (hd0)  it says cant mount it
[18:34] <unj> Is there a way to make the sound louder in jaunty for flash? I have it on full blast, and it is no very loud....
[18:34] <eltese> Hi, when Im streaming videos on youtube they lag extremely much. And it stutters like crazy too... Ive never had this problem before.. I got the latest flash player from adobe installed and Im running 9.04
[18:35] <eltese> The latest version from synaptic I should say
[18:35] <torn> FireVai, I'm not much of an expert, but how old is your hard drive?
[18:35] <Flomar> any nvidia drivers / x server guru?
[18:35] <Flomar> i have a mystic problem here
[18:36] <bruenig> !ask
[18:37] <dietricha> how do upgrade to firefox 3.5?
[18:37] <dietricha> er, how do *i* upgrade :)
[18:37] <raven_> hello - i'd like to buy a tascam us-144 midi/audio interface but i just read that there are patches for intrepid - do you have any information to let it work with jaunty? tnx
[18:37] <torn> FireVai, I'm not trying to dodge the issue, but I would run a fsck on your partitions, as well as run smartctl to check the hard disk for errors. You might be surprised.
[18:38] <bruenig> dietricha: wait until the overlords decide it is ok
[18:38] <Guest35563> Hi, does anyone here have experience printing to a network cups print server using kerberos auth?
[18:38] <torn> FireVai, something similar happened to my uncle (Windows Vista) where he couldn't boot into Windows, or even do a system recovery. After running "smartctl -t short /dev/sda" and then checking the results with "smartctl -l selftest /dev/sda" from a LiveCD, it found that his hard disk had unrecoverable errors.
[18:39] <dietricha> bruenig: nm, turns out there's already a package for it for jaunty
[18:39] <WarThiefF> hi
[18:39] <dietricha> why not default, is the question
[18:39] <torn> dietricha, I don't believe Firefox 3.5.x is on the official repositories yet.
[18:39] <Flomar> situation: X freezes with default video driver in jaunty jackalope, and when using restricted recommended driver via envy-ng,  driver 180.44-0ubuntu1 i get time to time terrible randomization errors, my screens get terrible but the keyboard stays ok, then i switch to a console and back to X and the screen returns to normality. Any ideas?
[18:40] <grawity> !ff35 | dietricha
[18:40] <grawity> dietricha: That link will explain.
[18:40] <torn> dietricha, I am using Firefox 3.5.2 on my openSUSE 11.1 system, which I got via the Mozilla repo, but I still prefer 3.0.x, since 3.5.2 still has some quirks to resolve.
[18:40] <dietricha> grawity: fantastic, thanks
[18:40] <urthmover> ok to fix my sound I did https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting  other than the reinstallation of the sound modules    sudo alsa force-reload   did the trick
[18:41] <FireVai> grr ok this still isnt working.. i'm gonna pastebin my menu.lst.. maybe someone can help here...
[18:41] <WarThiefF> hi
[18:41] <torn> FireVai, did you read my message above about hard disk corruption?
[18:42] <[eXception]> hi I need a compiled version of swftools 0.9.0 ... I try to compile myself but it makes errors...
[18:42] <WarThiefF> +e WarThiefF
[18:42] <edsmaffs> @ eXception: http://ftp.debian.org/debian/pool/main/s/swftools/swftools_0.8.1-2.1_i386.deb
[18:42] <FireVai> http://pastebin.com/m14cb22c8
[18:43] <edsmaffs> assuming you're on an i386 system
[18:43] <WarThiefF> hi
[18:43] <FireVai> torn: nope missed that one.. i just think something is mucked in my menu.lst or something
[18:44] <jack_spratt> Best way to access jaunty partitions in vista? last time I tried ext2ifs it didnt work because ubuntu had changed the type of ext3 or something - ?
[18:44] <torn> Your menu.lst looks fine. But you said GRUB won't even boot from the MBR.
[18:44] <FireVai> yes
[18:44] <torn> Either it's a corrupt MBR, or corrupt hard drive.
[18:44] <edsmaffs> jack_spratt: I've never got vista / xp to read ubuntu partitions correctly.... p
[18:44] <FireVai> when i try that recovery page.. it says cant mound hd0
[18:44] <torn> The link above, about restoring GRUB, would fix your MBR issue.
[18:44] <torn> Yeah, I saw.
[18:45] <jack_spratt> edsmaffs: ever got win to read another distros partitions?
[18:45] <torn> Are you still in the LiveCD?
[18:45] <FireVai> yes
[18:45] <edsmaffs> i've only ever dual-booted vista / xp and ubuntu
[18:45] <edsmaffs> and no
[18:45] <torn> FireVai,  How many physical hard drives are installed?
[18:45] <FireVai> 3
[18:45] <edsmaffs> i have a partition with shared data on (NTFS) which they both access
[18:45] <|sanchez|> hello everyone
[18:45] <torn> Which one holds Windows / Ubuntu?
[18:45] <jack_spratt> edsmaffs: OK, well for future reference ext2fs works on every other distros partitions that I've tried, but I havent tried any others for about a year.
[18:45] <FireVai> the first one hda
[18:45] <FireVai> or sda
[18:45] <edsmaffs> ok, thanks
[18:46] <torn> FireVai, try this, it will only take 2 - 3 minutes.
[18:46] <jack_spratt> anyone reading jaunty hdds in window
[18:46] <jack_spratt> *s?
[18:46] <|sanchez|> just do a fat partition to share between the os's
[18:46] <torn> FireVai: smartctl -t short /dev/sda
[18:46] <FireVai> as root?
[18:47] <heatmzzr> My letters in terminal are on top of eachother, is ther a way to fix that?
[18:47] <torn> FireVai: Then after 2 - 3 minutes pass, check the results with: smartctl -l selftest /dev/sda
[18:47] <jack_spratt> |sanchez|: thanks, but that wont work. I need win to read the jaunty ext3 drives properly
[18:47] <|sanchez|> i dont understand why
[18:47] <strange> anyone know how i can deny ubuntu from initialising my md0 ?
[18:47] <torn> FireVai, yes, as root. In a LiveCD, I think you're root by default.
[18:47] <nh2> how to record a kernel panic? only the last 20 lines fit into my console.
[18:47] <FireVai> says smartctl command not found
[18:47] <|sanchez|> if you setup your ubuntu partitions (separating your home from your /) it shouldnt be an issue
[18:47] <kholby> ATI prop driver won't do dual monitors.  Anyone had this issue?
[18:47] <torn> FireVai, you tried as root?
[18:47] <FireVai> one sec
[18:48] <torn> FireVai, what LiveCD are you using?
[18:48] <FireVai> yes tried as root also
[18:48] <Jorophose> what's a good VNC client? vncviewer won't pass on mouse or keyboard, and directvnc hasn't worked for me.
[18:48] <FireVai> the 9.04 live cd
[18:48] <torn> I'm pretty sure it has the smartctl package...
[18:48] <FireVai> i did sudo smartctl -t short /dev/sda
[18:48] <HACKER10011> does anyone know what my graphics card is
[18:48] <heatmzzr> My letters in terminal are on top of eachother, is ther a way to fix that?
[18:48] <maco> HACKER10011: lspci does
[18:48] <jack_spratt> |sanchez|: because FAT is total crap and besides it will require me copying all my data which would be woefully inefficient. Also I don't feel like donating a large chunk of my hdd space as a temporary fat buffer as a workaround. ext3 should be readable using win software, and it is for other distros, so I'm trying to get the same thing working with jaunty
[18:48] <|sanchez|> HACKER10011: i dont
[18:48] <torn> FireVai, does the LiveCD has internet access?
[18:49] <FireVai> yes
[18:49] <maco> jack_spratt: windows xp has an ext2/3 driver. vista and 7 do not.
[18:49] <torn> FireVai, then try: apt-get install smartmontools
[18:49] <nh2> Jorophose: I use vinagre since it's bundled with ubuntu
[18:49] <maco> jack_spratt: it is available via the google
[18:49] <|sanchez|> jack_spratt: fair enough, i dont know enough about your configuration but i see where you are coming from
[18:49] <marcin_> hej
[18:49] <torn> FireVai, after it downloads/install the package, try the smartctl thing again.
[18:50] <jack_spratt> maco: an unofficial driver you mean - ext2ifs? or some other driver?
[18:50] <maco> jack_spratt: yes, an unofficial one
[18:50] <|sanchez|> jack_spratt: sounds like virtualization would be easiest way to achieve what you want, just run one as a host OS (ubuntu) and virtualize windows and then you can easily share your ubuntu with your windows via the vm hypervisor :)
[18:50] <|sanchez|> although this would require major reconfiguration of yoru setup
[18:50] <Jorophose> nh2: is it tightly integrated with gnome? I'm working with Ubuntu+LXDE on an old system
[18:50] <maco> HACKER10011: why 19?
[18:51] <jack_spratt> maco, |sanchez|: OK thanks. I'll wait for a working unofficial vista driver I guess.
[18:51] <|sanchez|> sorry mate :(
[18:51] <FireVai> torn: i didnt see any kind of errors
[18:52] <torn> FireVai, you mean with "smartctl -l selftest /dev/sda" ?
[18:52] <nh2> Jorophose: not sure. just apt-get install or synaptic it and see if the requirements fit your needs
[18:52] <Jorophose> nh2: seems to not need gnome, o
[18:52] <koq-fan2> hey guys
[18:52] <Jorophose> or I've already got it installed, so thanks.
[18:52] <koq-fan2> anyone here who owns a eee pc 701 (4G)?
[18:52] <nh2> Jorophose: if you want it really plain, xtightvncviewer ist very nice
[18:52] <skazi21101> d
[18:52] <kholby> Graphics lag really really bad when I try to open display preferences using fglrx driver.
[18:53] <FireVai> torn: yes it only showed 2 things
[18:53] <FireVai> # 1  Short offline       Completed without error       00%     41542         -
[18:53] <FireVai> # 2  Short offline       Completed without error       00%     41542
[18:53] <FireVai> oops sorry
[18:53] <torn> FireVai, then your disk seems fine.
[18:53] <Flomar> situation: X freezes with default video driver in jaunty jackalope, and when using restricted recommended driver via envy-ng,  driver 180.44-0ubuntu1 i get time to time terrible randomization errors, my screens get terrible but the keyboard stays ok, then i switch to a console and back to X and the screen returns to normality. Any ideas?
[18:53] <torn> This is very weird.
[18:54] <alexnet> So I damaged my linux box yesterday by running a chmod -R /* command... and I'm looking to reformat, and I was wondering about whether I should go with the Ubuntu Server Edition or the Desktop Addition
[18:54] <FireVai> yeah wouldnt have this prob... if i could get ubuntu to install on the second par of hda
[18:54] <torn> FireVai, so you can't even boot into Windows either?
[18:54] <alexnet> *edition
[18:54] <Pici> alexnet: Do you want/need a graphical environment?
[18:54] <FireVai> tried six times.. i kept getting no grub boot screen
[18:54] <FireVai> torn: nope cant boot either
[18:54] <alexnet> Pici, the target for the install does not even have a monitor
[18:54] <Jorophose> ok so vinagre is not able to move the mouse either...
[18:54] <torn> What are the other hard drives for?
[18:54] <koq-fan2> anyone here who owns an eee pc 701 and has working wifi under ubuntu intrepid (8.10)?
[18:54] <FireVai> torn: they are storage drives
[18:55] <|sanchez|> ive got a 1008ha eee
[18:55] <Jorophose> is this a problem with the OS I'm connecting to? I did a debian netinstall and installed Xorg and LXDE over it, did I miss a package?
[18:55] <torn> FireVai, did you have them plugged in when you installed Windows?
[18:55] <Pici> alexnet: If you don't plan on running anything that needs a graphical interface then the server install will work fine.
[18:55] <|sanchez|> ubuntu and linux mint running :)
[18:55] <FireVai> yes
[18:56] <torn> FireVai, that is what I hate about Windows. It doesn't tell you what it's doing, and it's so barbaric when it comes to MBRs and boot files. With me, Windows will install its boot files on a seperate hard drive then the one it installs the system files to.
[18:56] <FireVai> when i tried before to install on the second par of hda... it didnt ask me to import anything from my windows install, and didnt say anything about grub booting either os
[18:56] <torn> FireVai, so I'm not really sure what's the setup on your system, to be honest.
[18:56] <alexnet> Pici, do you know whether i should go with the 64 bit or the 32 bit version?
[18:56] <Pici> alexnet: How much ram do you have?
[18:57] <torn> FireVai, I have to leave soon, and I'm sorry we didn't figure it out. Maybe someone else might better help you.
[18:57] <alexnet> Pici, 2 gig
[18:57] <marcelo_> hi, how do I put a running program on the background, without stopping it with Ctrl z?
[18:57] <FireVai> torn: thanks anyway no prob.. usually when i break something its hard to fix lol
[18:57] <|sanchez|> alexnet: 64 if your machine will support it
[18:57] <|sanchez|> 32 otherwise
[18:57] <Pici> alexnet: Agreed.
[18:57] <|sanchez|> marcelo_: i believe <command> & will run it in the backgroudn
[18:58] <Sky[x]> what can i user for sensors temperature on ubuntu ?
[18:58] <alexnet> Okay, thank you...  Reformat time!
[18:58] <|sanchez|> Sky[x]: if your motherboard has em you can place em on your panel if you want
[18:58] <marcelo_> SkiDawg_, you can use sensors.
[18:58] <torn> FireVai, in my case, I have 2 seperate, physical drives. I installed Windows on one drive, and Linux on the other. When I installed either one, I unplugged the other hard drive. No dual-boot issues, or anything. I simply hold down my ESC key and tell the motherboard which physical drive I want to boot into. In other words: each MBR on each drive is untouched.
[18:58] <foul_owl> can anyone recommend some lightweight web browsers?
[18:58] <Pici> marcelo_: ctrl-z then type fg
[18:58] <|sanchez|> Pici: he doesnt want to put it to sleep he wants it to run
[18:59] <Sky[x]> i need a program :)
[18:59] <natewiebe13> any use mts files?
[18:59] <marcelo_> Pici, but ctrl-z stops the the program.
[18:59] <|sanchez|> Sky[x]: you want to record and store data then ons ensor reports ?
[18:59] <bastidrazor> Sky[x], conky
[18:59] <Pici> marcelo_: But typeing fg afterwards lets it continue running.
[18:59] <Sky[x]> i just want to see temperature
[18:59] <natewiebe13> mts files anyone?
[18:59] <Sky[x]> in terminal
[19:00] <bhaskar_>  help me
[19:00] <Pici> marcelo_: sorry, not fg, bg.
[19:00] <marcelo_> SkiDawg_, lm-sensors.
[19:00] <bastidrazor> Sky[x], acpi -Vf
[19:00] <Simir> Hola a todos!
[19:00] <bhaskar_> help me to install kde in my ubuntu
[19:00] <Simir> hello somebody!
[19:00] <Pici> natewiebe13: Can you rephrase your question?
[19:00] <marcelo_> Sky[x], _, lm-sensors.
[19:00] <IdleOne> bhaskar_, sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[19:00] <natewiebe13> bhaskar_: just install kubuntu
[19:01] <bastidrazor> Sky[x], or drop the f if you want in Celsius
[19:01] <Simir> somebody help me !?
[19:01] <natewiebe13> im looking for support for hd video files from my camera (mts/m2ts)
[19:01] <Pici> !ask | Simir
[19:01] <IdleOne> !es | Simir
[19:02] <natewiebe13> Pici: im looking for support for hd video files from my camera (mts/m2ts)
[19:02] <bhaskar_> idleone, natewibe13: tried everything from 2 days but got error e broken pakages
[19:02] <Simir> thanks well I need install a SMTP server but when upgrade my system ubuntu the system collapse and i recive this error
[19:02] <Pici> natewiebe13: I'm not familiar with that filetype. Perhaps someone else does though.
[19:03] <natewiebe13> bhaskar_: download the kubuntu live cd and install from there
[19:03] <marcelo_> Picci, ok, so I put it on the background, and then I have to make it run with bg!
[19:03] <Simir> BusyBox v1.1.3 (Debian 1:1.1.3-5ubuntu12) Built-in shell (ash)
[19:03] <Mattaspads> hey guys, how do i connect to a local server i already have set up in linux from this comp? I have followed this guide, and it is easy to connect from my wiondows, but i want to be able to do the same from this linux. Any tips? Here is the guide: http://www.bit-tech.net/bits/2007/06/05/build_your_own_server/1
[19:03] <Simir> Enter 'help' for a list of built-in command.
[19:03] <Simir> (initramfs)
[19:03] <marcelo_> Sky[x], apt-get it, then you will have command sensors in your terminal.
[19:03] <FireVai> ok can anyone tell me why... when i took hda.. made it into two pars... installed windows on first one, then ubuntu on second.. i got no grub screen?
[19:03] <Pici> marcelo_: right.  Preferably, you should run the command with command &, but if you cannot do that then this works too.
[19:03] <peol> keyserver.ubuntu.com down again? :/
[19:04] <afief> is keyserver.ubuntu.com down or is it just me?
[19:04] <FireVai> and durring install ubuntu didnt ask me to inport windows stuff, or even show there was two os's on the hd
[19:04] <natewiebe13> Pici: it is the new hd format for video cameras..  its avhcd i think from sony.. you can actually take the raw hd stream, burn it on a data disk and watch it in you blu-ray player.. but i want to edit it and burn on dvd
[19:05] <bhaskar_> natewiebe13: give me the sie of kubuntu
[19:05] <Mattaspads> if anyone could help me with it, i would be most gratefull
[19:05] <natewiebe13> kubuntu.com?
[19:05] <swapy> tualbox
[19:05] <swapy> guys
[19:05] <natewiebe13> kubuntu.org
[19:05] <losher> FireVai: some people seem to have no luck when others seem to breeze through. Are you running the live cd on that system right now?
[19:05] <swapy> help needed with virtualbox
[19:05] <Pici> bhaskar_: There is no need to install Kubuntu from CD if you already have Ubuntu installed. Just install the kubuntu-desktop package.
[19:05] <FireVai> yes losher
[19:05] <natewiebe13> Pici: he broke his packages doing that
[19:05] <IdleOne> Pici, he has a broken package error
[19:05] <skazi21101> i have this fake problem. and after reboot my cd-drive became unworkable. ubuntu don`t even see him
[19:05] <macius> hey im just wondering im using cedega but my subscription is almost up and really not planning to keep on paying for it with wine be exceptionally good to me... um without paying am i still able to run installed games through cedega? aswell as games i would install through wine?
[19:06] <Simir> what i doing for resolve my problem?
[19:06] <swapy> i have already installed xp in virtualbox now can i copy that virtual file .vdi and load it in virtualbox
[19:06] <losher> FireVai: ok, lets start with the basics. Please run sudo fdisk -l (that's lower case L) and paste the output to www.pastebin.com
[19:06] <swapy> i want one more machine to work
[19:06] <bastidrazor> bhaskar_, http://releases.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/
[19:06] <macius> i know theres really no point but the video diagnostic feature is usefull to me so not sure if i should keep it
[19:06] <bhaskar_> pici i am frustated: i am trying frm two days and everything goes in vein
[19:06] <Mattaspads> yo people, does anyone know how i connect to my local server from this linux computer? :P
[19:07] <natewiebe13> Mattaspads: windows server? like a workgroup?
[19:07] <Pici> bhaskar_: Okay, its up to you if you want to use the Kubuntu CD then, I was unaware of your prior issues.
[19:07] <IdleOne> Mattaspads, type localhost in a browser
[19:07] <FireVai> http://pastebin.com/m5ecd9005
[19:07] <g3org3s> Hello , using winamp under wine ... files not playing , no sound card detected , how can i fix taht ?
[19:07] <FireVai> losher: thats my fdisk
[19:07] <natewiebe13> g3org3s: have you set your audio config in wine settings?
[19:08] <openSUSE-Nik> g3org3s: Why winamp, when you can play sound files on Linux with special codect package? :O
[19:08] <IdleOne> g3org3s, use vlc
[19:08] <Mattaspads> IdleOne:  i type local host and i get : http://localhost/ ???
[19:08] <IdleOne> Mattaspads, what do you mean by local server?
[19:08] <openSUSE-Nik> LAN probably
[19:08] <ZequeZ> Hi, can someone tell me where is the iso image i've mount? Because i cant select the mounted image on PlayOnLinux :S
[19:08] <ycy> hi
[19:08] <natewiebe13> just go to the network folder
[19:08] <ycy> is there a way to use ext3cow on ubuntu?
[19:08] <Flomar> guys i`m getting problems with nvidia drivers
[19:09] <Mattaspads> natewiebe13: this is the guide i used, its easy to understand how the server is; http://www.bit-tech.net/bits/2007/06/05/build_your_own_server/1
[19:09] <Flomar> and my dmesg show some messages
[19:09] <Flomar> anyone can explain it to me?
[19:09] <Flomar> nvidia driver messages like: [ 2265.302211] NVRM: Xid (0001:00): 13, 0000 80019700 00004497 00001808 00000000 00400000
[19:09] <Mattaspads> IdleOne: i am not shure what kind of a server it is, but i used samba to get it online
[19:09] <losher> FireVai: ok, I see 3 disks: the 1st (/dev/sda) isn 80G and looks like it contains windows, the second is 200G and appears to contain a bootable linux. The third is 120G and looks like linux data. Is this what you were expecting?
[19:09] <natewiebe13> IdleOne: it appears to be ftp
[19:09] <ZequeZ> Can someone tell me where is the iso image i've mount? Because i cant select the mounted image on PlayOnLinux :S
[19:09] <FireVai> losher: what messed this thing up was a system update.. that updated the kernel and headders
[19:09] <natewiebe13> only ftp i used is for websites
[19:10] <holotone> just installed WICD to fix my wireless problems - It didn't work, so I uninstalled it - Now I don't have network-manager (did WICD uninstall that? WTF?) and can't even use my wired network anymore - HELP!
[19:10] <IdleOne> Mattaspads, if you dont know what kind of server your running on your machine then how are we supposed to know?
[19:10] <marcelo_> Flomar, How did you install them?
[19:10] <eike> hi, i my kern.log gets spammed with "Aug 19 20:07:46 wickie kernel: [ 1307.522228] pciehp 0000:00:1c.3:pcie02: Card present on Slot(5)" a couple of times per second, is there anything i can do?
[19:10] <netsurf3> i think my dvd-rw is fucked i keep getting dma timeouts and burn fails. sometimes the drive dies completely (in particularly when doing lightscribe) until the power is reset to it
[19:10] <Pici> netsurf3: Please watch your language here.
[19:10] <FireVai> losher: yes that fdisk is correct.. but the second you see is just a ext3 storage disk the 200gig
[19:10] <bhaskar_> pici: ok thanks
[19:10] <natewiebe13> ZequeZ: youve mounted it already?
[19:10] <Mattaspads> IdleOne:  it is a ftp server
[19:11] <ZequeZ> Yep
[19:11] <netsurf3> Pici, there wasnt anything in the topic forbidding it
[19:11] <natewiebe13> ZequeZ: look in the /media folder
[19:11] <natewiebe13> is it in there?
[19:11] <Mattaspads> natewiebe13: do you think you kan help me ?
[19:11] <ZequeZ> No :S
[19:11] <Pici> netsurf3: See the channel guidelines.
[19:11] <holotone> Can someone please tell me how to re-install network-manager without access to the 'net, or alternately how to get my ethernet working w/out network-manager so I can install it again?
[19:11] <g3org3s> openSUSE-Nik i need winamp for some plugins ... and yes i just installed the wine audio setting ,still bad direct sound driver problem
[19:11] <mr_lou> Right, so...  after I upgraded from 8.04 to 9.04, my computer won't play YouTube videos in fullscreen anymore. It's dead slow. Any ideas?
[19:11] <natewiebe13> Mattasqpads: not ftp i use ssh and samba
[19:11] <ZequeZ> I can see it through "Computer" "folder" :S
[19:12] <natewiebe13> ZequeZ: let me try to do the same
[19:12] <losher> FireVai: see that little asterisk after /dev/sdb1. That means the partition is bootable i.e. someone thinks the operating system is on that partition. Are you telling me that's wrong?
[19:12] <holotone> mr_lou: do you have 'ubuntu-restricted-extras' installed? That will install the non-free flashplugin player, which works very well for me
[19:12] <FireVai> losher: if it helps i installed windows.. then installed ubuntu inside windows
[19:12] <FireVai> so windows and ubuntu are on the same partition
[19:12] <Mattaspads> natewiebe13: so you know it is a ftp server? definatly ?
[19:12] <IdleOne> Mattaspads, ftp:localhost should get you there
[19:12] <mr_lou> holotone, Thanks. Will look into that.
[19:12] <holotone> mr_lou: you bet
[19:12] <Mattaspads> kk IdleOne ;)
[19:12] <FireVai> losher: want me to pastebin my menu.lst
[19:12] <natewiebe13> looks like it from the screenshot on the site
[19:12] <linksoft> alguno habla español?
[19:12] <Pici> !es | linksoft
[19:12] <ZequeZ> I've found i guide, i will try http://www.guia-ubuntu.org/index.php?title=Montar_una_imagen_ISO_como_una_carpeta (Is in spanish xD)
[19:12] <ZequeZ> Yo hablo español
[19:12] <holotone> Can someone please tell me how to re-install network-manager without access to the 'net, or alternately how to get my ethernet working w/out network-manager so I can install it again?
[19:13] <linksoft> ubottu: bueno muchas gracias
[19:13] <openSUSE-Nik> lol
[19:13] <linksoft> la verdad q no mucho soy de estas salas de chat
[19:13] <losher> FireVai: not yet. When you say ubuntu *inside* windows, what do you mean? Do you mean a wubi install?
[19:13] <marcelo_> lol
[19:13] <ZequeZ> "Ubottu muchas gracias" lol xD
[19:13] <FireVai> losher:  dunno what its called.. i booted windows.. put in the ubuntu 9.4 live cd.. when it opened i selected install ubuntu inside windows like an application
[19:14] <holotone> Anyone?
[19:14] <MadGirl> somebody said Anyone was using xorg-server with USE=minimal?
[19:14] <Flomar> hi marcelo_ i just viewed your post now
[19:15] <Flomar> marcelo_, via envyng, and before it via the hardware drivers, then tried via synaptic, well, many ways
[19:15] <FireVai> losher: i've tried several times to install ubuntu onto the second partiton i had made on sda/hda.. and it wouldnt take.. wouldnt dual boot.. so i did it this way
[19:15] <Simir> hola ZequeZ podrías ayudarme?
[19:15] <syntac> hi, i installed ntop and i'm trying to get the rrd plugin enabled but i can't find it anywhere. anyone use ntop with rrd before?
[19:16] <marcelo_> Flomar, I've installed nvidia drivers, and got no problem at all. TrySystem->Administration->Hardware Drivers. It should work
[19:16] <lanzelloth> anyone uses wicd?
[19:16] <ZequeZ> Simir, en que? xD
[19:16] <marcelo_> Flomar, What is your vieo card?
[19:16] <holotone> Can someone please tell me how to re-install network-manager without access to the 'net, or alternately how to get my ethernet working w/out network-manager so I can install it again?
[19:16] <IdleOne> Simir, por favor entre en el canal #ubuntu-es
[19:16] <Simir> mira es que tengo este problema
[19:17] <holotone> Seriously, I'm about to rip my hair out - Someone HAS to know how to do this
[19:17] <losher> FireVai: I think that is called a wubi install. And it means I can't help you, since I've never used it myself. I think you should do a fixmbr on the windows disk so you can boot windows, and then consider installing ubuntu inside an emulator e.g. virtualbox. Google 'windows fixmbr' for how to proceed...
[19:17] <Flomar> marcelo_, is a geforce 7100gs
[19:17] <IdleOne> ZequeZ, please use #ubuntu-es to help Simir in spanish. Thank you
[19:17] <Simir> Mira es que tengo este problema:
[19:17] <Simir> BusyBox v1.1.3 (Debian 1:1.1.3-5ubuntu12) Built-in shell (ash)
[19:17] <Simir> Enter 'help' for a list of built-in command.
[19:17] <Flomar> marcelo_, now i`m using 180.44 version
[19:17] <Simir> (initramfs)
[19:17] <eike> hi, i my kern.log gets spammed with "Aug 19 20:07:46 wickie kernel: [ 1307.522228] pciehp 0000:00:1c.3:pcie02: Card present on Slot(5)" a couple of times per second, is there anything i can do?
[19:17] <FloodBot3> Simir: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:17] <FireVai> ok thanks losher i'll try that
[19:17] <marcelo_> Flomar, I've got a nvidia Geforce 9800 gt
[19:17] <mr_lou> holotone, Didn't help. :-(
[19:18] <Simir> thankyou Idle but nobody can help me in my problem
[19:18] <holotone> mr_lou: did you reboot after installing?
[19:18] <holotone> Can someone please tell me how to re-install network-manager without access to the 'net, or alternately how to get my ethernet working w/out network-manager so I can install it again?
[19:18] <Flomar> marcelo_, but from times to time the screen gets weird and it gets renderization problems
[19:18] <mr_lou> holotone, No...
[19:18] <mr_lou> brb
[19:18] <holotone> mr_lou: I'd do that first
[19:18] <Flomar> well i`m submiting a bug with some dmesg traces ;)
[19:18] <natewiebe13> ZequeZ: seems its going under archive://
[19:18] <Flomar> let`s see what the great nerds says
[19:18] <losher> FireVai: best of luck
[19:18] <Mattaspads> IdleOne: it dont seem to work, does anyone know a connect to server client ? :)
[19:19] <IdleOne> Mattaspads, Places> Connect to Server
[19:19] <holotone> So no one here has any idea how to enable ethernet internet access without the help of network-manager?
[19:19] <Creedinger> hi
[19:19] <ZequeZ> Ok, i'll try
[19:20] <cZEUSs> hi
[19:20] <Mattaspads> IdleOne: how do i find which port i should use?
[19:20] <Creedinger> i have run ubuntu (the netbook edition) with a eepc and i can access the secondary windows partition but not the primary windows partition (where windows is installed), but i can see it at the right bar ( but klicking on it does nothing) does anybody know help ?
[19:20] <joep> hello! I have a serious problem with virtualbox on my newly installed jaunty on an AMD 4-core system. Anybody can give some help?
[19:20] <natty> hello, i'm a new user and i need some help
[19:21] <Pici> !ask
[19:21] <IdleOne> Mattaspads, 21 is default
[19:22] <Simir> sorry i come back
[19:22] <holotone> Seriously? Not a single person knows?
[19:23] <holotone> Guess it's back to reinstalling AGAIN
[19:23] <holotone> sometimes I wonder why I bother with Ubuntu....
[19:23] <n1lqj> need help.  apt-get install <package> installs but returns processing man-db fopen: Permission denied
[19:23] <IdleOne> how dare we not know the answer to every question
[19:23] <natty> hey, i installed ubuntu in windows and i want 2 know how i can access my files on the harddisk
[19:24] <Mattaspads> natty: places
[19:24] <alexnet> Can I install Ubuntu from CD onto a computer that has no monitor?
[19:24] <joep> I'll refrase. I just installed virtualbox 3.04 on my 4-core AMD running ubuntu jaunty. When I start virtualbox from the applications menue _> system, the first screen comes up and then the whole system freezes completely. I can reach the system from another computer with SSH but I cannot revive it. Anybody has ideas?
[19:24] <IdleOne> alexnet, yes. using the server version. it wont install any graphical enviroment
[19:25] <dbdii407> Question. There's a http running in the background on port 80 that i have no clue where it came from
[19:25] <dbdii407> How do terminate it?
[19:25] <alexnet> IdleOne, but i'll still need a monitor to perform the installation itself, right?
[19:25] <ZequeZ> How can i set image mount point through command line? I've use gmount-iso :S
[19:25] <storm_> hello guys, how i can start install of jaunty in may raid 0?! i created a raid 0 from bios, but when installer start, at partition it saw both of my hdd... and after installing some files, the raid is lost
[19:26] <minimec> joep: If you can access the machine do a 'sudo killall gdm' first.
[19:26] <marcelo_> joep, What kind of problem? did you try http://www.virtualbox.org/manual/UserManual.html#intro-64bitguests
[19:26] <kermit> how do i turn off mouse gestures?  at least, i think this is what it is, if i click while pushing the touchpoint stranges things like closing windows happens, though maybe its just a pidgin thing.
[19:26] <IdleOne> alexnet, ummm I'm not sure
[19:26] <IdleOne> alexnet, i would assume because there are vallues you need to enter
[19:26] <alexnet> IdleOne, okay, i'll just keep it simple and rig up a screen for the install, thanks
[19:26] <storm_> !raid0
[19:26] <dbdii407> Anyone?
[19:26] <MadGirl> i guess Anyone is using xorg-server with USE=minimal?
[19:27] <joep> minimec: thanks. I did from a terminal /etc/init.d/gdm stop ( I had root rights) but nothing happened except it did tell me gdm wsa stoppend but that was not true.
[19:27] <storm_> ZequeZ: do you use desktop edition?
[19:27] <mr_lou> holycow, Nah. If I use youtube-dl to download flv files, they play fine in fullscreen. But not from the browser. Feels like the graphics driver just disappeared after upgrading to 9.04
[19:27] <ZequeZ> Ubuntu? Yes
[19:27] <IdleOne> dbdii407, ps aux, find the process and then kill PIDNUMBER but that wont stop it from restrting next boot
[19:27] <n1lqj> apt-get Processing man-db:  fopen: Permission denied, any help is appreciated
[19:27] <minimec> joep: np
[19:28] <bastidrazor> ZequeZ, i don't know what gmount-iso is .. but all you need is an empty directory to mount to .. mkdir /path/to/new/directory
[19:28] <storm_> ZequeZ: and you cant mount iso images?
[19:28] <joep> minimec: what do you mean??
[19:28] <ZequeZ> Nono
[19:28] <storm_> yeah... you need a epmty directory
[19:28] <storm_> and put the path there
[19:28] <storm_> ;P
[19:28] <zyxxy> is there a dedicated channel for ubuntu security issues?
[19:28] <ZequeZ> I can mount them, but i don't know how to set the mount point through command line
[19:28] <minimec> joep: nothing... sorry np means no problem... ;)
[19:28] <kavurt> n1lqj: do you try with root passwd?
[19:28] <marcelo_> dbdii407, ps -ef | grep pattern
[19:28] <storm_> you cant
[19:29] <n1lqj> sudo -s
[19:29] <storm_> ZequeZ you have to choose the mount point everytime
[19:29] <n1lqj> kavurt, lost me
[19:29] <ZequeZ> If i "mount" with right click on the iso i haven't xD
[19:29] <zyxxy> if not: any idea when the security fix for pidgin will be available?
[19:29] <storm_> only if the image are not rejected
[19:29] <Pici> zyxxy: Do you know if there is a bug filed for it?
[19:29] <storm_> yeah... because gmount iso is not a part of ubuntu :P
[19:30] <zyxxy> Pici: not sure, where do i look for that?
[19:30] <Pici> zyxxy: bugs.ubuntu.com
[19:30] <joep> minimec; OK. I have virtualbox running on another system without any problem but that's an AMD 64-bit 3000+ running hardy and a little bit too slow for what I want to do.
[19:30] <storm_> can anybody help me with raid0?!
[19:30] <zyxxy> it's a pretty big issue, the pidgin team already released a fix
[19:30] <kavurt> n1lqj: what package do you try to install?
[19:30] <n1lqj> any...
[19:30] <n1lqj> they install but not sure man is updating with man-db fopen permission denied error
[19:31] <n1lqj> what are you permissions for /var/cache/man?
[19:31] <minimec> joep: I have a AMD X2 5000+ running with Virtualbox. I did not change any defaults.
[19:31] <n1lqj> root@Abaddon:/var/cache# ls man -lad
[19:31] <n1lqj> dr-xr-sr-x 44 root root 4096 2009-08-19 11:13 man
[19:31] <joep> minimec: I have restarted the whole system Could it be the fact that I use a KVM-switch to toggle between 2 systems?
[19:31] <maxxle> Hello, how can I SSH to a remote machine and change there automatically to a directory? I search something like "ssh<EMAIL_ADDRESS>'cd /testdirectory'" (I don't need a password to login to the machine)
[19:31] <Eleth> Any idea how to configure the fonts for kde applications I have installed?
[19:32] <n1lqj> need to know if thats correct
[19:32] <Eleth> They look like ass
[19:32] <zyxxy> Pici: i don't see a bug, but it's essentially a problem with pidgin that was already fixed in the 2.6.1 release, what is the standard procedure to include that fix in ubuntu?
[19:32] <storm_> joep what issue you have with virtualbox?
[19:32] <dbdii407> Nope. Isn't doing anything
[19:32] <dbdii407> 80/tcp   open  http
[19:32] <IdleOne> Eleth, you mean they are not to your liking?
[19:33] <minimec> joep: I don't think so.
[19:33] <Eleth> IdleOne,  that would be a correct assumption
[19:33] <joep> storm: When I star vortualbox (AMD 4-core jaunty) the whole system freezes. No keyboard activity is possible. Only the mouse-pointer can be moved.
[19:33] <IdleOne> Eleth, ok then. please keep the language clean :)
[19:33] <mellery> Hi, I just updated my ubuntu to 9.04 and my camera is no longer detected.  Can I get some help please?
[19:33] <itay> hello, how can I disable an input device in the linux kernel ? (I mean not in the kernel configuratin, but after compilatin while the kernel is running)
[19:34] <kavurt> n1lqj: mine is drwxr-sr-x
[19:34] <kavurt> that might be the problem
[19:34] <maxxle> itay: maybe by removing the module for the device (rmmod)?
[19:34] <Eleth> IdleOne,  Ass? I'd say that to my grandmother. Is this some sort of Christian American Ubuntu chatroom?
[19:34] <n1lqj> booting laptop to compare :(
[19:34] <Eleth> Anyway : running 9.04, would like to change fonts for a KDE 3 application I have installed
[19:35] <b3rz3rk3r> hey all, attempting to install xubuntu on an old PIII 750Mhz laptop. I have even tried Ubuntu server edition but nothing will work. All i get is: "Kernel panic - not syncing: Attempted to kill init!"
[19:35] <Berzerker> Eleth, no, however, we all like to be civilized.
[19:35] <joep> minimec: yes I thought so but it is a major problem as I want to use the system to run sevral programs on a.o. Windows (yes I know!!!) but some programs are only written for that OS.
[19:35] <_Space_Case_> Question? if i sudo touch /forcefsck then reboot is there a file somewhere that tells me what fsck did?
[19:36] <Mattaspads> is there anyone who is fimilier to samba server? and might help me with a slight problem ?
[19:36] <Mattaspads> samba /ftp :
[19:36] <n1lqj> ok laptop has owner set to w and desktop doesn't
[19:37] <joep> storm: any ideas?
[19:37] <n1lqj> starting there
[19:37] <minimec> joep: So your Virtualbox image freezes, when you start it with the configuration tool?
[19:37] <Eleth> Berzerker,  I'm incredibly civilized. I'm so civilized that I don't attempt to enforce my narrow view of morality on other.
[19:38] <n1lqj> well lets first see if laptop works lol
[19:38] <itay> maxxle I can't the same module is responsible for the dvb-t functioning
[19:38] <Mattaspads> just give me a sound, if you think you know anything about a samba server/ftp server ;) i'd be most gratefull
[19:38] <Berzerker> Eleth, you're also very arrogant.
[19:39] <joep> minimec worse: I start simply from the Application Menu -> System Tools -> SUn Virtual Box.
[19:39] <storm_> how i can install jaunty on a raid0 created in bios? once the partitioner start, he see my both hdd instead of raid. And on site i see that jaunty can see sata raid. What`s the issue
[19:39] <Eleth> Berzerker,  strange coming from the person who was trying to force his narrow views on me
[19:39] <Xerran> Is it safe to just purge old linux kernels or just remove?
[19:39] <Clas> Trying to install Ubuntu 9.04 server 64bit version but installer stops and unable to install grub to hd0, centos installed grub ok but i dont like centos, anyone with some hints?
[19:39] <_Space_Case_> Question? if i sudo touch /forcefsck then reboot is there a file somewhere that tells me what fsck did?
[19:39] <bastidrazor> Xerran, uninstall them
[19:39] <Berzerker> Eleth, I'm not trying to force anything on you, number one. Number two, I could say your views are just as "narrow" as you perceive them to be.
[19:40] <Xerran> bastidrazor: thx
[19:40] <n1lqj> Processing triggers for man-db ...
[19:40] <n1lqj> fopen: Permission denied
[19:40] <n1lqj> :(
[19:40] <n1lqj> not a permissions issue I don't think
[19:40] <minimec> joep: Try to start it from a console once. That is strange... Maybe you get an error message. Did you search the net for that strange behaviour?
[19:40] <bastidrazor> Xerran, it is a good idea to leave at least two available.
[19:41] <g3org3s> How can i know if sound drivers are installed on my ubuntu ?
[19:41] <Xerran> bastidrazor: I always leave the latest two
[19:41] <Xerran> bastidrazor: recovery and generic right?
[19:41] <Berzerker> n1lqj, sudo?
[19:41] <n1lqj> got it.  u+w was recursively off and ownership was root:root not man:root :D
[19:41] <joep> minimec: you mean a terminal in gnome or from F1?
[19:42] <n1lqj> fixed!
[19:42] <bastidrazor> Xerran, i leave two kernels.. like -15 and -14. but it is your choice. i do that in case things go wrong and a known working kernel is needed. i
[19:42] <rabidweezle> Just thought I would inform you all, linux has a new game today! quakelive has been ported to linux //end announcement
[19:42] <Xerran> ok
[19:43] <_Space_Case_> Question? if i sudo touch /forcefsck then reboot is there a file somewhere that tells me what fsck did?
[19:43] <Berzerker> _Space_Case_, you can check in /var/log
[19:44] <minimec> joep: You have to do it inside gnome. Well you risk another freeze, but maybe you get some error codes. Also check if there is some kind of log file in /home/<yourname>/.VirtualBox I don't know if VirtualBox does create some error logs.
[19:44] <Machtin> Hey guys.. i got a _huge_ problem: my /home is not recognized as a luks-partition any longer.
[19:45] <Machtin> or better: my /dev/sdb2 which is supposed to be /dev/mapper/home and then supposed to be /home is not a luks-partition any longer.
[19:45] <g3org3s> How can i know if sound drivers are installed properly on my ubuntu (server) ?
[19:45] <_Space_Case_> ty
[19:45] <Berzerker> _Space_Case_, /var/log/fsck
[19:45] <_Space_Case_> ty
[19:46] <Machtin> The data is not the problem.. because i already lost it with the same error (i had it twice), so i changed the harddisk.. but now the error returned.. i have no clue what it could be.
[19:46] <Machtin> And I'm quite desperate.
[19:46] <apprentice_poet> test
[19:47] <joep> minimec: no log but a Directory .Virtualbox with no logfile. I go and look in /var/,og. One moment...
[19:47] <TheK3vin> How do I check whether I have drivers installed for my graphics card?
[19:48] <alskfalskflaskhf> server irc2.omnitel.net
[19:49] <Drill> \admin
[19:49] <joep> minimec: I dont see any logfile related to Virtualbox but I haven't looked inside the files. I can try a grep in the directory.
[19:50] <minimec> joep: I don't see a reason for VirtualBox to freeze at start... sorry.
[19:52] <g3org3s> Anyone knows if using winamp plugins over XMMS is possible ?
[19:52] <bumber> Would running ubuntu using full disk encryption cause the ram to run hotter than usual?
[19:52] <tonii> RAM, no, CPU yes.
[19:52] <joep> Well, I see a few error messages in auth.log and kern.log. The latter has warnings about Virtualbox uses 32-bit capabilities!! but I assume that synaptic loads only 64-bit app's!!
[19:53] <bumber> That is awfully strange. My CPU temp is fine, but when I switched over from Gentoo to ubuntu 8.10 the ram has been running fairly hot
[19:54] <NeXstaR> heya all.. how to install the pidgin plugin for twitter ?
[19:54] <tonii> bumber: oh, I thought you meant "usage wise".
[19:54] <g3org3s> In wine , when i click Control Panel under ALSA DRIVER , i get control panel not implemented yet .. How do i fix that ?
[19:54] <Untouchab1e> whats the easiest way to install Flash on Ubuntu 9.04 x64?
[19:55] <Untouchab1e> seems like Flash for x64 Linux isnt all that available?
[19:55] <Ronald> http://tweakers.net/nieuws/61940/canon-kondigt-g11-compactcamera-met-uitklapbare-lcd-aan.html
[19:55] <zyxxy> Untouchab1e: download the beta from adobe labs
[19:55] <tonii> bumber: I doubt it has antyhing to do with hdd encryption though
[19:55] <Ronald> MINDER emopixels ftw!
[19:55] <Ronald> oops wrong channel, sorry
[19:55] <hwilde> hello I need to modprobe smsc911x but that module is not found - where can I find it?
[19:55] <zyxxy> Untouchab1e: http://labs.adobe.com/downloads/flashplayer10.html
[19:55] <bumber> I've googled a few problems about laptops running hot on ubuntu
[19:55] <bumber> some people also attributed it to the ram
[19:55] <storm_> at least EXT4 is stable?
[19:55] <Untouchab1e> zyxxy: thanks, il check it out
[19:55] <suit> Can anyone explain to me what an {a} or {u} behind a package when installing/removing via aptitude means? Example: "The following packages will be REMOVED: language-support-translations-en{a}"
[19:56] <bumber> but the solutions I saw all relate to fan speed and cpu throttling
[19:56] <Untouchab1e> zyxxy: any installation instructions?
[19:56] <grodius> hey guys what do most of you usually use to update your software synaptic or the term
[19:56] <tonii> bumber: don't know, but I would guess it could be the apm for Ubuntu
[19:56] <bumber> which I do not think is the issue here because my fan runs fine and my CPU cools just fine
[19:56] <zyxxy> Untouchab1e: just a second, i have to look up the right plugin directory
[19:56] <suit> grodius: aptitude :)
[19:56] <Pici> !crosspost | suit
[19:56] <g3org3s> In wine , when i click Control Panel under ALSA DRIVER , i get control panel not implemented yet .. How do i fix that ?
[19:56] <Untouchab1e> zyxxy: thanks
[19:57] <suit> Pici: Sorry, I just wasn't sure if that's a karmic thing or not. Won't happen again.
[19:57] <tonii> bumber: unless the RAM is shovelling lots of data, I don't see any reason for it to get "hot"
[19:57] <zyxxy> Untouchab1e: ok, just download the flash 10 x64 beta from adobe, unpack it and copy libflashplayer.so to /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins
[19:57] <jeroen_> someone know how smsbox works with Kannel?
[19:58] <ikonia> jeroen_: pardon ?
[19:58] <Untouchab1e> zyxxy: awesome.. I run Shiretoko (Unbranded Firefox 3.5).. do I need to place the libflashplayer.so in the plugins folder for that too?
[19:58] <bumber> tonii: I've also read that the kernel might be constantly swapping unused ram from the ram stick to the swap partition
[19:58] <ikonia> bumber: that's not how swap works
[19:58] <jeroen_> ikonia hi i installed Kannel its a wap/sms server
[19:58] <zyxxy> Untouchab1e: don't know about that, but many browsers look in the firefox directory already - IIRC, opera already does that. just try it :)
[19:58] <ikonia> !info kannel
[19:59] <ikonia> jeroen_: ok - what's up ?
[19:59] <LordMetroid> Anyone else having problem with launchpad now?
[19:59] <hwilde> hello I need to modprobe smsc911x but that module is not found - where can I find it?
[19:59] <LordMetroid> The interface keeps screwing up and I am constantly being logged out
[19:59] <ikonia> hwilde: it may not be included in the ubuntu kerne
[19:59] <ikonia> kernel
[19:59] <tonii> bumber: I wouldn't know anything about that, I only have 1GB ram and I barely use the swap as it is >.<
[19:59] <hwilde> ikonia, I can't find it *anywhere*
[19:59] <hawke_> LordMetroid, I am
[20:00] <ikonia> hwilde: what device is it for ?
[20:00] <jeroen_> ikonia, nothing much i installed the pakage but i have to  change the config file orso to regornice the sms wap server
[20:00] <bumber> I have 512mb and it rarely cuts into swap
[20:00] <LordMetroid> Ok, I was worried it was something on my
[20:00] <CaptainCrook> i get this while trying to umount...before i force it to umount just want to know what's going on...:(it's in french) démontage : /media/disk-1: périphérique occupé.
[20:00] <bumber> tonii: what does the cached section mean in free -m
[20:00] <hwilde> ikonia, it's an embedded ethernet port  http://www.smsc.com/index.php?tid=145&pid=116
[20:00] <jeroen_> i read the  www.kannel.org page but its in english and my native language is dutch
[20:01] <joep> Sorry, I have to leave will come back later.
[20:01] <hwilde> ikonia, the instructions everywhere say "Add smsc911x to /etc/modules" or "modprobe smsc911x"  http://www.nabble.com/Overo-Earth-%2B-Ethernet---USB-td23457473.html
[20:01] <ikonia> jeroen_: maybe see if #ubuntu-nl can translate
[20:01] <Spirits-Sight> does any one where I can find the change from mythbuntu 9.10
[20:01] <ikonia> hwilde: contact them to surprise it
[20:01] <ikonia> hwilde: "provide" it sorry
[20:01] <tonii> bumber: Don't know, but I would assume it's cached data for regulary used applications
[20:01] <tonii> cached, but not used
[20:01] <hwilde> ikonia, they odn't support linux of course :/
[20:02] <ikonia> hwilde: yes they do, the source code for the module is on their site
[20:02] <Untouchab1e> zyxxy: ok, ive copied the file.. but flash still isnt workin in Firefox 3.0 at least
[20:02] <zyxxy> Untouchab1e: did you restart firefox?
[20:02] <Untouchab1e> yep
[20:02] <kavurt> Spirits-Sight: what do you want to find?
[20:02] <hwilde> ikonia, well the latest I can find is from kernel 2.6.28-6   /lib/modules/2.6.28-6-386/kernel/drivers/net/smsc911x.ko    and I am afraid it doesn't exist for the current kernels
[20:03] <zyxxy> Untouchab1e: strange... so the plugin is in /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/libflashplayer.so?
[20:03] <Mattaspads> if you can do ftp:server help? Press 1 and enter ;)
[20:03] <Spirits-Sight> kavurt: I would just like to know what feature or improvment have happen?
[20:03] <ikonia> hwilde: looks like it's a 3rd party module
[20:03] <ikonia> Mattaspads: what's the problem
[20:04] <zyxxy> Untouchab1e: look for any firefox processes with 'ps axc' after you close all windows - sometimes, firefox tends to stay alive even after that
[20:04] <Mattaspads> ikonia: http://www.bit-tech.net/bits/2007/06/05/build_your_own_server/comments/24 this is the guide i used, on page 4 you can see how i connected via my windows, but now i am using a linux, and cant understand shit :P scuse the language
[20:05] <kavurt> Spirits-Sight: http://www.ubuntu.com/testing/karmic/alpha4
[20:05] <ikonia> Mattaspads: please control your language
[20:05] <mjoedi> xyz
[20:05] <CaptainCrook> any command that show what running process use a mounted drive that we can't umount?
[20:05] <Mattaspads> ikonia: i will  ;)
[20:05] <ikonia> Mattaspads: I can't support that guide as it's basiclly comments of nonsense
[20:06] <ikonia> Mattaspads: just use the "ftp" command to connect to an ftp server
[20:06] <erUSUL> CaptainCrook: lsof ?
[20:06] <Spirits-Sight> kavurt: but I don't see any talk about mythbuntu on there?  I don't see any thing on lauchpad either, is the development come to a halt ?
[20:06] <Mattaspads> ikonia: i don't get it ? well, where do i type ftp ?
[20:07] <Bosox20051> how do I turn off my computer honking at me every time I backspace with no remaining characters?
[20:07] <Mattaspads> ikonia: in my prowser?
[20:07] <ikonia> Mattaspads: application -> accessories -> termainl
[20:07] <kavurt> Spirits-Sight: sorry, i thought you're asking about ubuntu
[20:08] <Spirits-Sight> kavurt: thanks anyhow
[20:08] <Mattaspads> ikonia: ftp> <IP_ADDRESS>
[20:08] <Mattaspads> ?Invalid command
[20:08] <zyxxy> Bosox20051: system, settings, audio, second tab (sounds, i think), third box (play alarm sounds or so)
[20:08] <ikonia> Mattaspads: I didn't say ftp>
[20:08] <ikonia> Mattaspads: I said "ftp"
[20:08] <quieteyes> Mattaspads: just wandered into this conversation...but you are experiencing culture shock.  If this is your first time using something based on Linux, and you go into it expecting "a windows experience", I guarantee that you will at the least be frustrated, and at most will not succeed....
[20:08] <quieteyes> linux != windows
[20:08] <ikonia> Mattaspads: try "ftp <IP_ADDRESS>"
[20:09] <kavurt> Spirits-Sight: but I don't think it's came to a halt. because there's an alpha 4 release for mythbuntu too
[20:09] <ikonia> Mattaspads: also open the package manager and search for ftp - you'll find some front end applications
[20:10] <CaptainCrook> erUSUL,  yeah but it doesn't show what i want to see... i want to see why that partition is busy and why it prevent umounting...
[20:10] <Mattaspads> quieteyes: i know linux is not a windows, that is why i want to learn it ;) couse i dont like windows, but i try by reding tutorials, and in time i might understand more ;)
[20:11] <Lasivian> is there a command to change created on or modified on dates on files?
[20:11] <Bosox20051> zyxxy: Is there a way I can switch the source rather than turning it off?
[20:12] <stefg> Lasivian: man touch
[20:12] <quieteyes> Lasivian: type "man touch"
[20:12] <Lasivian> thanks
[20:12] <Bosox20051> zyxxy: I just don't need it so loud
[20:12] <Mattaspads> ikonia: il try but i get this: joh@joh:~$ "ftp <IP_ADDRESS>"
[20:12] <Mattaspads> bash: ftp <IP_ADDRESS>: command not found
[20:12] <bumber> lol man touch ;)
[20:12] <zyxxy> Bosox20051: you want it to be played back by your speakers instead of the internal one?
[20:13] <Bosox20051> zyxxy: Just so I would be able to control the volume. I guess unless I have a sound I want played my alternative is to turn it of...
[20:13] <Mattaspads> quieteyes: can i ask you, how did you lern linux?
[20:13] <quieteyes> Mattaspads: you'll only need to use quotes to capture spaces.  When you put the command in with quotes like that, it treats it as a single entity on the command line, instead of two
[20:13]  * Lasivian renames the man binary to woman
[20:13] <Bosox20051> *off
[20:13] <erUSUL> CaptainCrook: and « sudo lsof /dev/sdxx » does not shou it ?
[20:13] <quieteyes> Mattaspads: You wouldn't believe me.
[20:13] <Mattaspads> quieteyes: how :P ?
[20:13] <zyxxy> Bosox20051: i'm pretty sure there is no way to control the volume of the pc speaker, i'm not even aware of a way to change it to the external speakers
[20:13] <quieteyes> follow this link http://superuser.com/questions/9721/why-did-you-start-with-linux-and-why-did-you-continue-using-it/9886#9886
[20:14] <quieteyes> that is how I learned
[20:14] <zyxxy> but if anybody else here could tell me how to redirect the hardware bell to pulseaudio, i'd be very happy :)
[20:14] <CaptainCrook> erUSUL,  lsof: WARNING: can't stat() fuse.gvfs-fuse-daemon file system
[20:14] <jedi06> when i insert a sd card will it auto open it or do i have to mount it or something
[20:15] <quieteyes> zyxxy: for older PCs, just unplug the speaker.  For newer ones, some of them are now starting to route the speaker through the onboard sound...so it all depends :P
[20:15] <CaptainCrook> erUSUL,  so i tryed sudo lsof /media/disk-1/  it show only lsof...
[20:15] <zyxxy> quieteyes: i know how to disable the sound, but i want to hear a nice PCM file via my sound card instead ;)
[20:15] <jedi06> where would the sd mount to?
[20:16] <jedi06> /dev/
[20:16] <AdamDV> Hello, I'm wondering how to backup user mail using maildirs with postfix and dovecot?
[20:16] <Mattaspads> quieteyes: what you mean ? it is a forum ? :P
[20:16] <quieteyes> Mattaspads: this link is the story of "how I learned".  Or at least 85% of it.  The rest I did on my own time. http://superuser.com/questions/9721/why-did-you-start-with-linux-and-why-did-you-continue-using-it/9886#9886
[20:17] <Bosox20051> zyxxy: actually that did exactly what I needed, thank you very much.
[20:17] <zyxxy> you're welcome :)
[20:17] <Mattaspads> quieteyes: so would you say, that you are an advanced user now ?
[20:18] <stefg> AdamDV: #ubuntu-server might be the more appropriate place to ask for that
[20:18] <Abhinav1> how can I install gstreamer and its devel package?
[20:18] <ongolaBoy> hi.what can explain that my old kernel entries are not deleted after an update ?
[20:18] <AdamDV> stefg: Everyone's idle or no one knows :/
[20:18] <quieteyes> Mattaspads: I do regular admin work at my employer, so I guess you could say it...although I wouldn't go that far...
[20:18] <Unislash> hey all
[20:18] <Mattaspads> il look at the link ;)
[20:19] <Unislash> i'm having a problem partitioning my new, second hard drive; gparted says input/output error
[20:20] <stefg> AdamDV: in here it's: noone knows, but making noise at it :-) .... but seriously: is there anything specail about maildirs? I'd use something like rdiff-backup and make , well, backups on a separate disk/foel server
[20:20] <AdamDV> Hmmm
[20:20] <AdamDV> ok.
[20:20] <Unislash> so uh, does anyone have experience with running a second internal hard drive?
[20:20] <unj> hi I cannot mount my usb /dev/sdb1
[20:20] <alankila> stefg: I have hard time understanding what you mean by 'special'.
[20:20] <AdamDV> Alright, thanks.
[20:20] <unj> it doesn't show up in /media either
[20:21] <swapy>  guys
[20:21] <swapy> a little help needed
[20:21] <hwilde> unj, disconnect and reconnect it and type "dmesg" and see if it registers
[20:21] <ferdinand> hi
[20:21] <ferdinand> i need help
[20:21] <hwilde> !ask
[20:21] <swapy> what is mfc ? does microsoft visual studio contain mfc?
[20:21] <ferdinand> with gthumb
[20:22] <unj> hwilde: yeah it recognizes, but says not in fstab when I try mount command
[20:22] <quieteyes> swapy: MFC = Microsoft Foundation Classes.
[20:22] <Pici> swapy: Thats not really on-topic for this channel.
[20:22] <hwilde> unj,  pastebin the relevant parts at the end of your dmesg please
[20:22] <b3rz3rk3r> hey all, attempting to install xubuntu on an old PIII 750Mhz laptop. I have even tried Ubuntu server edition but nothing will work. All i get is: "Kernel panic - not syncing: Attempted to kill init!"
[20:22] <hwilde> b3rz3rk3r, does the livecd work
[20:23] <b3rz3rk3r> hwilde, no, not even ALT install works :(
[20:23] <quieteyes> b3rz3rk3r: install sounds borked.  Might want to consider burning a new one if possible
[20:23] <ferdinand> why doesnt show gthumb the pictures, after i renamed many of them at the same time ???
[20:23] <unj> hwilde: http://pastebin.com/m1097d2a6
[20:23] <Abhinav1>  how can I install gstreamer and its devel package?
[20:23] <stefg> alankila: maildirs on a mail server means that you have a file for every mail.... you'll end up having fanstastillions of files on a machine like that with quite a few users. that makes it special, but not special enough that ordinary backup methods don't work
[20:23] <IdleOne> !gstreamer
[20:24] <b3rz3rk3r> hwilde, quieteyes i can get DSL and puppy to both run fine, but none of my debian based distros run...
[20:24] <alankila> stefg: yes, I imagine a maildir system is more robust than mbox file, anyway... you have single, atomic files to drop into your backup rather than something which changes or is rewritten all the time
[20:24] <ferdinand> why arent the pictures i renamed at gthumb shown ?
[20:24] <quieteyes> b3rz3rk3r: given the age of the laptop, have you considered disabling ACPI when you boot the kernel?
[20:24] <hwilde> unj, mkdir /media/mycard       then   sudo mount /dev/sdb1 /media/mycard
[20:24] <alankila> so maildirs, if anything, should be the easier to backup and recover.
[20:25] <Unislash> anyone have experience in partitioning hard drives? gparted is giving me the error: input/output error during write on /dev/sdb
[20:25] <b3rz3rk3r> quieteyes, i have used the flags from the F6 menu, but they dont seem towork, so i entered them manually.. still no joy :(
[20:25] <quieteyes> alankila: yes and no.  I have regular backups of 2.5 million emails stored as maildir.  It goes well but the differential backups (incrementals) sometimes take a bit
[20:25] <hwilde> b3rz3rk3r, edit the boot line and take off ro quiet splash and add   pollirq routeirq acpi=off
[20:25] <alankila> quieteyes: yes, a lot of data. But would it be any easier if they were all in mbox?
[20:25] <ferdinand> gthumb doesnt show the pictures i renamed with gthumb ! whats wrong ???
[20:25] <b3rz3rk3r> hwilde, il give that a go now.. thx
[20:26] <quieteyes> alankila: yes and know.  easier to back up, but I've had mboxes implode on me.  maildir is actually not too bad, provided you don't have users storing 8 years of unsorted email
[20:26] <hwilde> b3rz3rk3r, you might also want to enable /etc/default/bootlogd    BOOTLOGD_ENABLE=Yes
[20:26] <alankila> if you have a differential backup system, to use mbox sanely it would have to be able to make some kind of diff against that file. Which can be dozens of megabytes. I somehow think it's easier just to deal with the separate files.
[20:27] <alankila> I mean, on overall system level complexity, it *has* to be superior solution.
[20:27] <unj> hwilde: it asks for a filesystem type, I tried fat=16 and fat=32 from man mount but neither worked
[20:27] <hwilde> unj, sudo mount -t vfat /dev/sdb1 /media/mycard
[20:27] <unj> hwilde: ty
[20:29] <unj> hwilde: http://pastebin.com/m1eed68fa
[20:29] <hwilde> unj, so... is it an unformatted usb drive ?
[20:29] <unj> hwilde: sudo fdisk -l syas it is Fat16
[20:29] <unj> hwilde: no
[20:29] <Lastguest> hi all
[20:29] <unj> hwilde: I have used it many times before
[20:29] <Lastguest> new here
[20:30] <Lastguest> is there no anonimity on irc then?
[20:30] <CaptainCrook> what would umounting the linux-swap partition do?
[20:30] <alankila> CaptainCrook: it is not mounted in that sense, but swapoff:ing it means that the swapped data will be loaded in RAM, if it fits. I imagine you may risk running into out-of-memory conditions this way.
[20:31] <alankila> but once you have disabled the swap, and provided there was enough memory, you should continue as before.
[20:31] <b3rz3rk3r> hwilde, trying with Xubuntu alternate as its the lightest i have right now... first lot give the same output. do i just append BOOTLOGD_ENABLE=Yes to the end too?
[20:31] <treiny> just english?
[20:32]  * alankila no longer has disk-based swaps, just ramzswap
[20:32] <Pici> treiny: Yes, What language are you looking for?
[20:32] <hwilde> b3rz3rk3r, sudo vi /etc/default/bootlog
[20:32] <treiny> is there someone who wants to help me with a patch program on my ubuntu, for my playstation
[20:32] <treiny> dutsh
[20:32] <treiny> dutch
[20:33] <Pici> !dutch | treiny
[20:33] <stefg> Unislash: are you positive that your hardware is good? taht sounds like a broken disk (or lose/bad cable)
[20:33] <treiny> super! Iĺl chek on #nl!! Thanks
[20:33] <b3rz3rk3r> hwilde, but dont i need to be ablet o get to a terminal for that?
[20:33] <J-_> If I install KDE4.3 in Jaunty, will I have the same audio problems as KDE4.3 in Karmic?
[20:33] <CaptainCrook> alankila,  ok... let say i have an extended partion that i want to modify and that extended include two virtual partition, one for storage and the linux-swap... what would be the best way to make it without virtual patition only boot, extended, swap ?
[20:33] <Unislash> stefg: well, i'm not absolutely positive... it's new, fresh from newegg, but that doesn't mean it's not broken...
[20:33] <quieteyes> b3rz3rk3r: have you considered booting single-user and then doing an exam?
[20:34] <hwilde> b3rz3rk3r, oh.  yeah.    if the livecd doesn't work you're pretty much screwed
[20:34] <Abhinav1> how to install gstreamer in hardy system ?
[20:34] <stefg> Unislash: sad but true ... but let'S assume the connection is bad...
[20:34] <b3rz3rk3r> hwilde, meh.. thats what i thought.. guess il go with puppy then.. :(
[20:34] <Unislash> stefg: i'm thinking it may be broken as well... so if i can't fix it using linux "magic" i'ma have to replace it... :(
[20:34] <alankila> CaptainCrook: well, use swapon -s to see if you have lots of stuff in swap currently. If not, you can probably swapoff safely, copy whatever data to wherever you want to stash it while doing your partition rearrangements...
[20:35] <quieteyes> b3rz3rk3r: two quick questions - which cd are you using (live or alternate) and what boot options?
[20:35] <Unislash> stefg: that's what i thought, so i switched the sata cables with my dvd reader (i was using a really good sata cable for that). no luck...
[20:35] <navlar> join #plonechannel
[20:35] <unj> hwilde: ?
[20:35] <b3rz3rk3r> quieteyes, right not currently trying Xubuntu 9.04 ALT.. as i dont think the Live cd's work too well for such small amounts of RAM
[20:35] <alankila> I'm somewhat confused by your question, though. I thought that in your terminology a virtual partition lives within an extended partition. Yet you say you don't want a virtual partition but do want extended partition.
[20:35] <ubuntu_904> hi i want to transfer the trombay notes onto my laptop how 2 do tht?
[20:35] <navlar> join #rob0t7
[20:36] <quieteyes> b3rz3rk3r: how much ram?  what model laptop?
[20:36] <ubuntu_904> where can i find them in home
[20:36] <stefg> Unislash: if you have a bit of time you could try first to just zero it... if dd throws errors you know it's bad. and there'S smartmontools as well. let the disk diagnose itself
[20:36] <Pici> navlar: You need to put a slash before join: /join #channel
[20:36] <Unislash> stefg: i have time; what should i do first?
[20:37] <b3rz3rk3r> quieteyes, its an old PIII 750Mhz Asus... something. 256MB RAM according to puppy when i ran a benchmark in there
[20:37] <quieteyes> b3rz3rk3r: that should be enough.  There are a number of ways to get this to work.
[20:37] <stefg> Unislash: dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/[yourdev] writes zeroes ... until end of device is reached
[20:37] <b3rz3rk3r> quieteyes, i realsie that a livecd should work, but i seem to get the same issues.. IO APIC errors
[20:37] <ubuntu_904> hi where r the trombay notes stored in the pc?
[20:37] <unj> hwilde: I tried on another comp and it failed
[20:37] <quieteyes> b3rz3rk3r: try noapic
[20:37] <dimon> can you give me russian chanel UBuntu&
[20:37] <stefg> Unislash: you'll need sudo
[20:37] <hwilde> unj, well there ya go
[20:38] <dimon> ?
[20:38] <hwilde> b3rz3rk3r, go into the bios and disable everything, extra floppy drives, cd drives, raid everything you don't have
[20:38] <quieteyes> b3rz3rk3r: also, did it run fine with Windows to begin with?  What is the history of the machine?
[20:38] <Unislash> stefg: what about writing nulls?
[20:38] <Pici> dimon: #ubuntu-ru
[20:38] <stefg> Unislash: that's what i mean :-)
[20:38] <b3rz3rk3r> quieteyes, yeah, the flags dont seem to affect it, iv tried -noapic nolapic noacpi nolacpi
[20:38] <dimon> ok
[20:38] <quieteyes> b3rz3rk3r: let me put it this way: i have a debian 5 install running on a VM with 128mb so 256 should work fine
[20:39] <b3rz3rk3r> quieteyes, haha wow
[20:39] <Unislash> stefg: k :) then dd=if/dev/null of=/dev/sdb right?
[20:39] <b3rz3rk3r> quieteyes, thats cool
[20:39] <Abhinav1> which source I should use to install gstreamer ? I am getting error no package available when trying to install apt-get install gstreamer-universe?
[20:39] <b3rz3rk3r> quieteyes, yeah had win98 on here before, and iv had it as a freenas server for the past 6 months
[20:39] <b3rz3rk3r> quieteyes, both working fine
[20:39] <stefg> Unislash: /dev/zero != /dev/null ... /dev/zero YIELDS zero's /dev/null is a sink to nowhere
[20:40] <quieteyes> b3rz3rk3r: for low mem, the Ubuntu alternate Cd is probably your best bet (that and Xubuntu)...but if the kernel is freezing before it switches to runlevel 5 then yeah, it's a hardware issue
[20:40] <CaptainCrook> alankila,  about 1/100 is currently used...   if i want to copy those...  i guess i have to mount it (haven't worked much with linux-swap)...  right?
[20:40] <Silver_Swords> b3rz3rk3r, try removing compiz. i had a similar pc and it used to work ok without it.
[20:40] <quieteyes> b3rz3rk3r: and I take it from your past comments that debian also croaked
[20:40] <b3rz3rk3r> quieteyes, ubuntu seems to kick up a fuss with APIC.. and nothing i can do to disable it
[20:40] <Unislash> stefg: k, so write zeros then? :)
[20:40] <b3rz3rk3r> quieteyes, yeah, seems to be debian related to old PIII architechture?
[20:41] <alankila> CaptainCrook: copy what exactly? Swap data is not copied, there is practically no filesystem on it... What you want is just to swapoff temporarily and then do your changes, whatever they are, and eventually mkswap a new swap and then swapon that.
[20:41] <b3rz3rk3r> Silver_Swords, i cant even get it installed, so not a compiz issue ;)
[20:41] <farchumbre> does anyone have problems With hibernation When battery runs loW?
[20:41] <CaptainCrook> alankila,  ohhh.
[20:41] <BriGuy> hello.  Anyone install jaunty with debootstrap?
[20:41] <stefg> Unislash: right... but wouldn't hurt to inspect the smart status before wasting time... sudo apt-get install smartmontools ... then read man smartctl
[20:41] <Silver_Swords> b3rz3rk3r, is your vga built-in?
[20:41] <b3rz3rk3r> quieteyes, im going to go and disable everything except cd and HDD and see what happend.. BIOS is pretty bare if i remeber rightly
[20:42] <Grifulkin> Is this the general help IRC?  First time using IRC ever
[20:42] <Unislash> kk, one sec...
[20:42] <b3rz3rk3r> Silver_Swords, its an old old laptop
[20:42] <Silver_Swords> b3rz3rk3r, oops
[20:42] <grawity> Grifulkin: This is #ubuntu, the Ubuntu help channel. For general IRC help, better ask in #freenode
[20:42] <lstarnes> Grifulkin: this is the general help channel for ubuntu
[20:42] <farchumbre> my computer doesn't auto suspend When battery runs loW, any ideas?
[20:42] <farchumbre> running ubuntu jaunty
[20:43] <Grifulkin> Thank you
[20:43] <quieteyes> b3rz3rk3r: I'll see what boot options are on the alternative Cd; also, what version?  you doing 8.10, 9.04?
[20:44] <Grifulkin> farchumbre:  Try checking the power options it should be in there I would assume
[20:44] <quieteyes> farchumbre: power management is still not what I call 1.0 quality.  Some machines still do not respond like they should, especially laptops.
[20:44] <HexFlash> Sorry for the noobish question guys, but why do some people say *nix?