[07:40] <n2diy> mortuis99: I was just watching the Deadlest Catch, and the deck boss told the green horn, "don't worry about sleeping, you can do that when your dead"
[07:40] <rxdeath_> i have tried that
[07:40] <rxdeath_> but i can't get the right config
[07:40] <lgc> Jordan_U, so you wouldn't say that a faster processor would help?
[07:40] <DSpair> abhi: You'll need to be MUCH more specific in your question. I would start by checking out www.samba.org
[07:40] <rxdeath_> would you like to see the current xorg.config file?
[07:40] <mortuis99> yeah that was the way it was when i was a carney
[07:40] <DSpair> rxdeath_: Yeah, try googling for "LInux 8 button mouse"
[07:41] <qnyc> rxdeath, this worked perfectly for me today... http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Feisty#Activate_side-mouse-buttons_in_FireFox
[07:41] <rxdeath_> i have done research and have looked at the furums
[07:41] <Jordan_U> lgc, It might, but I wouldn't bet the cost of a new CPU on it :)
[07:41] <gloinunit> err:ole:ClientIdentity_QueryMultipleInterfaces IRemUnknown_RemQueryInterface failed with error 0x80004002
[07:41] <gloinunit> fixme:ntdll:RtlNtStatusToDosErrorNoTeb no mapping for 8000000a
[07:41] <gloinunit> err:ole:local_server_thread Failure during ConnectNamedPipe 317
[07:41] <qnyc> rxdeath, if you don't add imwheel the side buttons won't do anything
[07:42] <Frogzoo> !mouse | rxdeath_
[07:42] <rxdeath_> oh i haven't seen that qnyc
[07:42] <ubotu> rxdeath_: Enabling extra mouse buttons: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ManyButtonsMouseHowto  - Enabling serial mouse: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SerialMouseHowto
[07:42] <DSpair> gloinunit: OK, now paste that first line into Google and see where it leads.
[07:42] <lgc> Jordan_U, OK. Thanks, as always, man. Buenas noches.
[07:42] <rxdeath_> i will ook at it and see whats up
[07:42] <mortuis99> is the ubuntu mac install differant tahn that of the PC?
[07:42] <padfd> everytime you build a module against the kernel do you need to move the vmlinux.gz file to /boot ?
[07:42] <gloinunit> there is the fixme
[07:42] <cooner750> Closing Session...
[07:42] <rxdeath_> i already looked at those pages Frogzoo
[07:42] <cooner750> So far so good I suppose
[07:42] <cooner750> LOL
[07:42] <Jordan_U> mortuis99, For PPC or intel?
[07:42] <cooner750> I jumped when the disc popped out
[07:43] <DSpair> Uhg... g'nite all...
[07:43] <cotyrothery> now that i have my drive mounted can someone now help me with getting vm working
[07:43] <ohzie> RAOF: My next question, "Error: Missing openssl" so using my brain I tried looking for libopenssl, like the same thing with mysql...unfortunately I'm only finding libopenssl for ruby. =P
[07:43] <Jordan_U> cotyrothery, vm?
[07:43] <cotyrothery> virtual machine
[07:43] <ohzie> RAOF: Is just libssl decent enough? ;O
[07:44] <Jordan_U> cotyrothery, What Virtual Machine software are you using?
[07:44] <n2diy> cotyrothery: need some more info, I guess vm is on the drive you just mounted?
[07:44] <cooner750> Might as well install these two updates in OS X to get them out of the way, since they require a reboot anyway, which i'll be doing and HOPING that Ubuntu will boot
[07:44] <RAOF> ohzie: Probably.  Give it a whirl :_
[07:44] <cotyrothery> I have vm player
[07:44] <cooner750> The Desktop CD does not make any changes to the hard drive unless I install it, correct?
[07:44] <cotyrothery> i just mounted my second hard drive
[07:44] <RAOF> cooner750: Correct.
[07:44] <cotyrothery> and i want to use vm for windows
[07:45] <cooner750> Ok, I don't need OS X mysteriously not booting anymore :P
[07:45] <cotyrothery> adn other os's
[07:45] <cotyrothery> and
[07:45] <n2diy> ! enter | coty
[07:45] <ubotu> coty: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[07:45] <n2diy> ! enter | cotyrothery
[07:45] <ubotu> cotyrothery: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[07:45] <insmod> why does hdparm default to 16 IO not 32 ?
[07:45] <Jordan_U> cotyrothery, I recommend vmware-server same price ( $0.00 ) more features
[07:46] <cotyrothery> Jordan_U: then how do i install windows with it
[07:46] <aliask> Anyone know if it's possible to change how ubuntu handles selecting text with control + shift + arrow keys?
[07:47] <Frogzoo> aliask: is gnome-terminal - that's in preferences
[07:47] <n2diy> aliask: that is a window manager issue, try #gnome?
[07:47] <Jordan_U> cotyrothery, Create a virtual machine with the CD rom drive mapped to a windows CD .iso, or mapped to your physical drive with a windows CD in it, boot the VM and install windows
[07:47] <joojin> ls
[07:47] <cotyrothery> Jordan_U: will this work with recovery cd's
[07:47] <Jordan_U> cotyrothery, No idea :)
[07:48] <cotyrothery> lol
[07:48] <cooner750> well that was fast
[07:48] <amonkey> how can i get vnc to be able to play from a gnome ssh share?
[07:48] <cooner750> Rebooting. Hopefully Ubuntu will boot >_<
[07:48] <cotyrothery> is cooner750 getting a no operating system installed at boot
[07:48] <cotyrothery> ?
[07:48] <aliask> Frogzoo, n2diy: I'll check over at #gnome then. Thanks for the pointer.
[07:49] <n2diy> aliask: GL
[07:49] <bharat862004> my cd rom is not mounting... help please :)
[07:50] <corevette> is it possible to burn album art to a cd with the default ubuntu cd burner?
[07:51] <RoC_MM> Album art cannot be burned to a audio CD.
[07:52] <RoC_MM> only audio
[07:52] <rxdeath_> ok qnyc
[07:52] <corevette> RoC_MM: How do they get it on CD's normally then?
[07:52] <rxdeath_> you are a god among ants
[07:52] <n2diy> Hmm, getting quite in here.  (MKVs)
[07:55] <n2diy> ! info DRM
[07:55] <RAOF> corevette: How do you get at this album art?
[07:55] <ubotu> Package drm does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[07:55] <Kpr_of_Kubuntu> Can anyone assist me with installing ndiswrapper a bit more in depth? I am on my Windows install now as it is the only one that works online. So any instruction- like what to download and steps to take in advance, is appreciated.
[07:55] <corevette> RAOF: ?
[07:55] <Quaenorde> KPR, I will PM you assitance.
[07:55] <n2diy> ! DRM
[07:55] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about drm - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:56] <abhi> what command can i use to check the size of a directory?
[07:56] <RAOF> corevette: You say the CD comes with album art.  Do you mean "the CD has something printed on the non-shiny side", or what?
[07:56] <TaJMoX> corvette : your music player downloads the album art from the internet after identifying the album
[07:56] <abhi> what command can i use to check remaining disk space?
[07:56] <TaJMoX> abhi df -h
[07:56] <Nutubuntu> One of the best people I knew as a kid went off to Rohnert Park from SoCal, years ago. Always had a soft spot for it since, TaJMoX
[07:56] <corevette> RAOF: There is a jpg in the CD
[07:57] <TaJMoX> nutubuntu its my favorite city in sonoma, i used to live in Marin (Novato)
[07:57] <corevette> TaJMoX, RAOF: Does the Ubuntu CD burner keep the ID tags?
[07:57] <Quaenorde> kpr_of_kubuntu - Go to http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=93482, download lastest tar file.
[07:57] <RAOF> corevette: No, because there's nowhere to put them.  An audio CD contains audio, not data.
[07:57] <Nutubuntu> I would take RP over Novato 7 days out of 7, me :)
[07:57] <n2diy> TaJMoX: df only lists drive info, no?
[07:57] <RoC_MM> corevette, it might be a mixed-mode cd.  you'd have to be more specific about how the cd "has" the album art.
[07:57] <cooner750> Oh god
[07:57] <TaJMoX> corvette : if you directly copy a cd... probably not if it is just MP3's.
[07:57] <cooner750> Now what happened
[07:57] <Kpr_of_Kubuntu> Quaenorde: I'll check it out, thanks.
[07:58] <cooner750> The Ubuntu 7.04 screen showed up
[07:58] <cooner750> I pressed Enter.
[07:58] <cooner750> It sat at a black screen for about 2 minutes
[07:58] <abhi> and what command can i use to check the size of a directory?
[07:58] <TaJMoX> n2diy all mounts i think
[07:58] <NemesisD> anyone know why: mt setblk 0 is giving me a no such file or directory?
[07:58] <RoC_MM> abhi, du
[07:58] <danny> has anyone checked out songbird yet?
[07:58] <Nutubuntu> What are the advantages / disadvantages of reiserfs vs ext3, for a home computer with a wide variety of file sizes?
[07:58] <TaJMoX> n2diy df = disk free
[07:58] <cooner750> Then the fans come on full blast. I hard powered it off using the power button. Started it again, OS X attempts to boot, and then it resets itself. The second time it makes it all the way, but the fans on are 100% and it's really slow
[07:58] <corevette> RAOF: So how does your computer recognize the songs automatically when you put in a CD? RoC_MM
[07:58] <Quaenorde> kpr_of_kubuntu = From there, move it to your linux desktop, then extract it as ndiswrapper-version-subversion. I think it's ndiswrapper-1.47 right now.
[07:58] <RoC_MM> abhi, du --total --human-readable directory/
[07:59] <RAOF> corevette: By asking the internet (either CDDB or MusicBrainz, generally)
[07:59] <RoC_MM> RAOF, that's called CDDB, it doesn't have to do with the CD, it's a feature of ripping or playing applications.
[07:59] <n2diy> TaJMoX: yes, but I thought the question was directory oriented? Yes, I know the meaning of df, thank you. :)
[07:59] <corevette> RoC_MM: How do you add a CDDB to a CD?
[07:59] <TaJMoX> n2diy i thought he asked the command to show free disk space
[08:00] <cooner750> Does anyone know what my problem is, (regarding Ubuntu), or am I going to be ignored on here as usual?
[08:00] <RoC_MM> no
[08:00] <RoC_MM> directory usage..
[08:00] <Kpr_of_Kubuntu> Quaernorde: I'll put it on my flash drive.
[08:00] <niru> http://pastebin.ca/578142
[08:00] <RoC_MM> df=disk free...du = directory usage.
[08:00] <n2diy> TaJMoX: I thought it was in a directory? Oh well, looks like he got away?
[08:00] <TaJMoX> ohhhh abhi du is for directory
[08:00] <danny> corvette, you access file info on CDDB and then if the burning program supports adding meta data to the disc then you can do it
[08:01] <RoC_MM> oh
[08:01] <RoC_MM> it is possible to add text data to CD tracks...this feature is called CDTEXT or something like that...I noticd it in K3B....when I put it in a friends TV it showed titles...I was impressed....k3b grabs hte info from id3 and puts it in cdtext
[08:02] <corevette> RoC_MM: So the default Ubuntu burner doesn't do that? How about file-roller?
[08:02] <cooner750> Isn't File Roller a packaging program....
[08:02] <corevette> yeah sorry
[08:02] <corevette> scratch that
[08:02] <RoC_MM> corevette, The default burner is great...what is it you want to do that it doesn't do?
[08:02] <bharat862004> cooner750: what is ur problem /??
[08:03] <niru> http://pastebin.ca/578142 could someone see this message
[08:03] <niru> and let me know where it went wrong
[08:03] <corevette> RoC_MM: Copy ID3 tags to the CD
[08:03] <TaJMoX> bharat862004 i dont think he has one - he was talking to corvette
[08:03] <Flannel> niru: that's installing with the alternate CD?  or what?
[08:04] <bharat862004> TaJMoX: ok
[08:04] <markljames> Anyone have any experience with software RAID 5 recovery?
[08:04] <RoC_MM> You might not need to, like I said, there is CDDB on the other side when you put it in...if it's a standalone CD player appliance, that's the only time you'd be able to tell if there was CDTEXT.
[08:04] <Volta2056> I just came across a cool thing similar to synaptic mgr called automatix2, http://www.getautomatix.com/, u should check it out
[08:04] <niru> Flannel, no
[08:04] <RoC_MM> You can tell it for sure using k3b...install it if you wish, otherwise just burn a testCD and check it.
[08:04] <Flannel> !automatix | Volta2056
[08:04] <ubotu> Volta2056: Automatix2 is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
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[08:04] <Flannel> Volta2056: please don't recommend that here.  Thanks
[08:04] <Volta2056> FYI, i'm not an employee or anything like that but it has a lot of good stuff
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[08:04] <Flannel> !ops
[08:04] <ubotu> Help! Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Burgundavia, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti or mneptok
[08:04] <cooner750> Oh god spam
[08:05] <cooner750> Of all places, I'd never expect to see that on IRC
[08:05] <niru> Flannel, if such kind of warning is coming then is it problem with package
[08:05] <Flannel> nixternal: not him.  The other guy.
[08:05] <nixternal> d'oh
[08:05] <Flannel> nixternal: but, he left
[08:05] <NeoGeo64> When I run Linux, I get a warm, fuzzy feeling all over,  Why is this?
[08:05] <RoC_MM> NeoGeo64, Linux is made of sugar and spice and everything nice.
[08:05] <charlie> what is the channel for help with beryl and that stuff
[08:05] <Flannel> charlie: #ubuntu-effects
[08:05] <n2diy> NeoGeo64: you have money in your wallet!
[08:06] <NeoGeo64> n2diy: negative, im unemployed.
[08:06] <TaJMoX> NeoGeo64 : it's a kernel feature
[08:06] <corevette> RoC_MM: So what burner would you recommend? And how about .m4a files?
[08:06] <cooner750> bharat862004: I downloaded and burned the Ubuntu 7.04 PowerPC image. I am on an iMac G5. 1.9GHz, 1.5GB RAM. OS X 10.4.9. I went to boot the disc. By holding C, etc... The black screen with the boot prompt, press Enter to boot, etc... showed up. So I pressed Enter. And the screen turned white for a second, then black. It stayed that way for about 2 minutes. Then the fan on the iMac turned on full blast, which signals a complete softw
[08:06] <NeoGeo64> lol TaJMoX
[08:06] <n2diy> NeoGeo64: but your computer is running bug free.
[08:06] <NeoGeo64> i wouldnt say ubuntu is bug free
[08:07] <NeoGeo64> i managed to crash it where it wouldnt respond to the keyboard until 2 reboots.
[08:07] <cooner750> Is there a known problem with Ubuntu not booting on an iMac like mine, or?
[08:07] <RoC_MM> corevette, any decoding of your media files is merely a function of the cd-player...when I was young, we had to first manually decode the files to wav, then burn a bunch of wavs...you can always do this...but it's not anything that's normal today.
[08:07] <n2diy> NeoGeo64: negative eh?! Do you know what CQ FD means?
[08:07] <corevette> RoC_MM: So what do you use to burn CD's?
[08:07] <NeoGeo64> That's nothing though.  I had to run about 60 or 70 passes with Windows' defragger on my NTFS paratition to defrag a 40gb torrent I'm downloading.
[08:07] <RoC_MM> corevette, I used to use k3b, but I don't have a burner in this computer anymore...Basero looks simple, and GnomeBaker looks nice and advanced for me....I love k3b though...real slick.
[08:08] <Quaenorde> I put my vote in for k3b as well.
[08:08] <NeoGeo64> n2diy, no, whats it mean
[08:08] <cooner750> I've never had much luck with Ubuntu and PowerPC
[08:08] <cooner750> Or much luck with Ubuntu for that matter o_o
[08:08] <NeoGeo64> PowerPC isn't officially supported anymore, is it?
[08:08] <niru> Flannel, can u suggest the solution
[08:08] <Kpr_of_Kubuntu> !wireless | quaenorde
[08:08] <ubotu> quaenorde: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[08:09] <Kpr_of_Kubuntu> Lol
[08:09] <corevette> RoC_MM: basero? i can't seem to find it
[08:09] <corevette> !basero
[08:09] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about basero - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:09] <novato_br> i want your opinion: what's is the best email client ?
[08:09] <Kpr_of_Kubuntu> !xgl
[08:09] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[08:09] <Kpr_of_Kubuntu> !xfce
[08:09] <ubotu> xubuntu is Ubuntu with Xfce instead of Gnome. For more info, see http://www.xubuntu.org and http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/ - To install from Ubuntu: "sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop". | For support, see #xubuntu | See also: !ubuntu and !xubuntu-channels
[08:09] <Quaenorde> 0_0 kpr_of_kubuntu = Er, did you need something?
[08:09] <corevette> novato_br: Gmail or Thunderbird
[08:09] <novato_br> evolution is not good
[08:09] <Kpr_of_Kubuntu> Not right now
[08:09] <Quaenorde> Okie.
[08:09] <Kpr_of_Kubuntu> Still dling things
[08:09] <Kpr_of_Kubuntu> =D
[08:09] <RoC_MM> !brasero
[08:09] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about brasero - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:09] <CaptainOblivious>  !beryl
[08:09] <ubotu> beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. Help in #ubuntu-effects
[08:09] <RoC_MM> Brasero is part of universe repo.
[08:09] <NeoGeo64> Linux is running fine on my August 2001 hardware.  I have a first gen P4 @ 1.4GHz, 512MB PC800 RDRAM, 120GB 7200RPM HDD, NVidia GeForce 5200 FX (128 bit) w/ 256mb RAM
[08:10] <cooner750> Just great. Now that Intel Macs are out, I suppose I'll far way behind in the way of Linux and my Mac
[08:10] <Quaenorde> Excellent. I'm working on wireless, too, so I'll be aroundish if you need anything/if I can help.
[08:10] <novato_br> because it's not show dialogue box when you send or receive a email
[08:10] <niuq> i am uploading files to ftp server with gftp, but i have problems trying to upload .swf files!!!
[08:10] <novato_br> !Gmail
[08:10] <feisty-pvr-350> hi there
[08:10] <ubotu> gmail is a webmail service. For information on using it with Evolution see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingGmailWithEvolution
[08:10] <niuq> pretty weird, any help plz
[08:10] <markljames> !mdadm
[08:10] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mdadm - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:10] <Nutubuntu> niuq,  say more about the problem?
[08:10] <feisty-pvr-350> i have set feisty and mythtv with a pvr 350 but the remote doesn't work - anybody any ideas what are the steps?
[08:11] <cooner750> ....
[08:11] <cooner750> This is the main reason I've tried to stay away from Ubuntu
[08:11] <niuq> Nutubuntu: when the transfer starts the transfer get stalled, and the connections falls, that only happens with .swf files
[08:11] <niuq> Nutubuntu: i do not have problems with another kind of files
[08:12] <agm_> can anyone please tell me where can i find catch files of firefox
[08:12] <niuq> Nutubuntu: it is really weird
[08:12] <Quaenorde> My experience with Ubuntu has been pretty painful so far, moreso than the nightmare I'd had with Mepis- my first Linux OS.
[08:12] <cooner750> This has to be the only IRC channel I've ever seen where there are TOO many people to get support
[08:12] <RoC_MM> Painful?  Have you heard of Windows?  That's an endless source of frustration there!
[08:12] <feisty-pvr-350> don't agree, ubuntu is a really painless os
[08:12] <niru> Flannel, ?
[08:12] <Nutubuntu> niuq, agree, that's weird - is this only with gftp? or do you see same problem with other ftp clients?
 impossible
[08:13] <Quaenorde> Not if you have the ONE hated wireless card, RTL8185, and a gazillion harddrives.
[08:13] <niuq> Nutubuntu: i tried with filezilla, nautilus, i even tried with windows explorer....
[08:13] <feisty-pvr-350> anybody using mythtv here? how to setup with hauppaug 350?
[08:13] <Flannel> niru: you haven't given me any idea as to where you got this error.
[08:13] <Nutubuntu> niuq, what were the results with the other clients? did they work, or did it fail on .swf files?
[08:13] <niuq> Nutubuntu: i've tried active mode, passive mode
 what's wrong with RTL8185?
[08:14] <niru> Flannel, while installing at the last phase
[08:14] <niru> I saw the syslog file and pasted in the pastebin
 It's a blacklisted card, that can only really be managed if you're a Linux whiz. Which I am not. Nor do I have the cash to buy a new card.
[08:14] <n2diy> NeoGeo64: CQ is a Ham radio mnemonic, for calling all stations, FD stands for Field Day, which happens to be this weekend. It's a Holiday for Hams.
[08:14] <Flannel> niru: thorugh the alternate CD? or the Desktop?
[08:14] <NeoGeo64> n2diy, oh cool
[08:14] <niuq> Nutubuntu: with windows explorer it says i didnt have permission, but the thing is that i am enable to writte and erase files, and i checked the permissions, they were 777
 lol i had no prob with it
[08:14] <Quaenorde> That, and why did they remove ndiswrapper from Feisty 7.04's CD?  Tell me your secret!
[08:15] <CaptainOblivious> !emerald themes
[08:15] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about emerald themes - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:15] <notgod> I added the network manager PPTP VPN package, and I configured the VPN -- how do I connect now? It doesn't show up anywhere except in the config.
[08:15] <CaptainOblivious> !emerald
[08:15] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about emerald - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
 i used ndiswrapper
[08:15] <niuq> Nutubuntu: with filezillas started to resend the same file over and over, but never could really upload the file......
[08:15] <NeoGeo64> I've always found AM radio fascinating.  I'm in Southern Georgia USA and I can pick up stations on the AM from Cincinatti at night.
[08:15] <TaJMoX> !info emerald-themes
[08:15] <markljames> I have a RAID 5 array with 4 disks.  Since all the disks are the same age, I planned to replace them one by one.  I replaced one and the array began rebuilding.  During the rebuild a different disk failed.  Can I put the original disk back somehow?
[08:15] <ubotu> emerald-themes: Package of themes for Emerald. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.2.1-0ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 1260 kB, installed size 3212 kB
 works great
[08:15] <cooner750> *sigh*
 I managed the previous install to get the card recognized, but it only gave me a signal strength of 30%, and would only see the SSID when on roaming, and I had to put it in manually every boot.
[08:15] <niuq> Nutubuntu: i'll pastebin the log of gftp
[08:15] <Volta2056> test
[08:15] <niuq> !paste
[08:15] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[08:15] <sx66> how do you make an task panel similar to the mac?
[08:15] <Volta2056> okey doke
[08:15] <sx66> !mac
[08:15] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mac - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:16] <RoC_MM> !info brasero
[08:16] <ubotu> brasero: CD/DVD burning application for GNOME. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.5.2-0ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 739 kB, installed size 1944 kB
[08:16] <nixternal> Volta2056: sorry about that :)
[08:16] <Volta2056> thanks nixternal and flannel
[08:16] <RoC_MM> hmm
[08:16] <n2diy> NeoGeo64: include my nick in your replies, I'm loosing you in the noise.
[08:16] <CaptainOblivious> !info themes
[08:16] <Flannel> Quaenorde: ndiswrapper is on the CD
[08:16] <ubotu> Package themes does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[08:16] <nixternal> my finger slipped on the trigger and took out an innocent being ;p
[08:16] <Volta2056> no hard feelings;)
 i had some prob like that till i updated the firmware on the router
[08:16] <TaJMoX> sx66 : task panel ? you mean the notification area applet?
 Not Feisty 7.04.
[08:16] <NeoGeo64> n2diy: okay
 Hrm..router. I'll take a look, thanks.
[08:16] <Volta2056> "friendly fire
[08:16] <Volta2056> "Freindly-fire"
[08:16] <TaJMoX> sx66 : right click on the panel and click add to panel ... there is another window selector applet you can try
[08:17] <niuq> Nutubuntu: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26367/
[08:17] <Flannel> Quaenorde: yes, Feisty.  I'm looking at it right now.
 7.04? It's not on my CD, desktop.
[08:17] <sx66> TaJMoX, yes....the thing that has the bouncing icons and large when you highlight them
[08:17] <n2diy> NeoGeo64: Roger on the AM SWLing (Short Wave Listening.) I'm in E. Central Pa.
 I was also advised in the forums that it was not included.
[08:17] <TaJMoX> CaptainOblivious : http://www.gnome-look.org
[08:17] <TaJMoX> sx66 : ohh you want a launcher bar
[08:17] <agm_> can anyone please tell me where can i find Internet catch files of firefox
[08:18] <TaJMoX> sx66 : i use gdesklets and starter bar
[08:18] <cooner750> agm_: Good luck getting anyone to answer : - /
[08:18] <TaJMoX> sx66 : sudo apt-get install gdesklets
[08:18] <Flannel> Quaenorde: they gave you bad info: http://releases.ubuntu.com/6.06.1/ubuntu-6.06.1-desktop-i386.list  Search for 'ndiswrapper'  It's right there.
 mine is a DI 524 A updated in 2004 -- the latest update fixed it
[08:18] <sx66> TaJMoX, where do...thanks!
[08:18] <niuq> insmod: do you really think that is impossible?
[08:18] <TaJMoX> agm_ look in your ~/.mozilla directory
[08:18] <Flannel> Quaenorde: er... Thats Dapper.  Why was I looking at dapper.  Hold on
[08:18] <RoC_MM> agm_, define catch files.
 ya
 I was gunna say. 0_0
[08:18] <n2diy> Flannel:  should that be a bug report?
 Alrightly, I'm researching it now.
[08:18] <NeoGeo64> Will Ubuntu work on my new octo-core PowerMAC w/ 8gb ram and dual 30" displays
[08:19] <niuq> insmod: but it is really happening, i can probe it, with screenshots, files logs
[08:19] <Kpr_of_Kubuntu> Eww
[08:19] <crimsun> NeoGeo64: of course not.  You should give it to me.
[08:19] <_Ahti> NeoGeo64: Shit! YOu've got a nice machine
 it can't tell the file -- you are probably sending to big of a file send a small one
[08:19] <NeoGeo64> no i dont :(
[08:19] <TaJMoX> cooner750 - what's your question?   yes you can run feisty on PPC
[08:19] <NeoGeo64> i only wish i had one *cry*
[08:19] <TaJMoX> !ppc
[08:19] <ubotu> PowerPC.  Formerly used by Apple for the Macintosh line of computers. Variants are now used in popular gaming consoles. PPC was a fully supported Ubuntu architecture up to and including edgy. It is now a community port, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PowerPCFAQ
[08:19] <niuq> 17 kb
[08:20] <agm_> thanks TaJMoX
[08:20] <_Ahti> NeoGeo64: I've got a Compaq Presario 2500 with 2ghz Celeron CPU and 512MB RAM, yes, compared to mine yours is a cannon :P
[08:20] <NeoGeo64> my machine is a p4 1.4ghz, 512mb ram
[08:20] <Flannel> n2diy: Should what be?  ndiswrapper removal?  I'm sure there's a reason for it.  Trying to find it curerntly on the mailinglist.
[08:21] <cooner750> FOR THE THIRD TIME, and yes, I've seen the !ppc thing. -- I am trying to boot 7.04 PPC on my iMac G5. It successfully loads to the screen where I am prompted to press enter to continue with the boot. Then, it dumps to a black screen for 2 minutes, and the fans on my iMac turn on full blast.
[08:21] <NeoGeo64> you have faster clockspeed, but i think the 1.4ghz p4 would outperform a 2GHz celeron
[08:21] <noodles12> how do u change the color of yoru taskbar in gnome? i'm download themes from gnomelook.org and the taskbar doesnt' change
[08:21] <_Ahti> NeoGeo64: Yep
[08:21] <NeoGeo64> this machine was god like in 2001
 They didn't even update the helpfile- which kindly gave you the commands to install a package that wasn't there. T_T I ended up burning 6.10 and using that CD as a repos for the file.
[08:21] <NeoGeo64> 1.4ghz was hella fast 6 years ago
[08:21] <NeoGeo64> heh
[08:22] <_Ahti> NeoGeo64: Exactly... was...
[08:22] <n2diy> Flannel:   I don't know, I wasn't following the thread. But if the docs are wrong, I think a bug report as warranted?
 I already did.
[08:22] <n2diy> online docs
 I'm just sulking about it.
[08:22] <lunitus> is this an ubuntu help chan?
[08:22] <sx66> TaJMoX, http://i12.tinypic.com/52n2wpu.png
[08:22] <Tom47> lunitas yes
[08:23] <Quaenorde> Lunitus: Ask, and if someone knows, you'll be answered.
[08:23] <_Ahti> NeoGeo64: But its ok, my laptop can run Feisty with ease :) I can even run Virtual Computers (VMWARE) With relative speed :)
[08:23] <Tom47> lunitus: yes
[08:23] <CNTRLX> Can someone help me with a dualboot from ubuntu grub hda, and getting it to pick up my debian partition sda
[08:23] <NeoGeo64> I use my computer for gaming..
[08:23] <lunitus> first off, first time ubuntu user, former freebsd, and I love ubuntu so far, but I do have one problem, live cd works awesome but after I install and reboot x fails to start
[08:23] <_Ahti> NeoGeo64: Linux probably isn't the best for that... :S
[08:23] <NeoGeo64> i can get 60fps on postal 2 (which is also for linux) on online play
[08:24] <ircblood> how can i read .chm?
[08:24] <NeoGeo64> well my fav game is ported to linux
[08:24] <_Ahti> NeoGeo64: Ok,
[08:24] <_Ahti> NeoGeo64: :)
[08:24] <NeoGeo64> im lucky
[08:24] <Kpr_of_Kubuntu> !wine
[08:24] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[08:24] <Kpr_of_Kubuntu> !cedega
[08:24] <ubotu> cedega is a project based on WINE, aimed at running Windows games on Linux. For more info, see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/Cedega
[08:24] <Kpr_of_Kubuntu> Eww...monthly fees.
[08:24] <Quaenorde> Lunitus: Did the install go smoothly/not corrupted?
[08:24] <NeoGeo64> Even with Linux native games however... I've noticed performance quirks on Linux compared to Windows gaming.
[08:24] <micahcowan> lunitus, not certain, but I'd hazard a guess that the install was not complete.
[08:24] <Flannel> n2diy: Ah, yes.  That's a bug against the docs.
[08:24] <lunitus> no problems at all or errors during install
[08:24] <NeoGeo64> The keys will sometimes get unresponsive under Linux during heavy fire.
[08:25] <Postal_Dude> Hi
 any luck
[08:25] <Quaenorde> NeoGeo: Ow. That's got to be obnoxious.
[08:25] <_Ahti> NeoGeo64: Hmm. Might just be a hardware related issue
[08:25] <lunitus> is there a way to copy the xconfig that the live cd is using and then use it for the install?
[08:25] <RoC_MM> Sounds like a bug in the game for sure NeoGeo64
[08:25] <NeoGeo64> I just think Linux wasn't designed or isn't really optimized for gaming.
[08:25] <n2diy> Flannel:   You want to file it?
[08:25] <_Ahti> NeoGeo64: Now you figured it out... Hehe
[08:25] <NeoGeo64> Microsoft should port DX10 to Ubuntu.
[08:25] <Nutubuntu> Having trouble with a Feisty install. I've used the alternative CD and set up RAID1 across two disks. Installation hangs up while installing software. When I go back to the partitioner, it shows the partitions, but has them as "do not use". Shelled out and ran fdisk -l and it says for each md device that it doesn't contain a valid partition table. I don't understand this.
[08:25] <Tom47> !xorg
[08:25] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[08:25] <Flannel> n2diy: You're welcome to.  Im a bit busy (and laggy) at the moment
[08:26] <CNTRLX> Can someone help me with a dualboot from ubuntu grub hda, and getting it to pick up my debian partition sda
[08:26] <Tom47> !xorg > lunitus
[08:26] <_Ahti> NeoGeo64: Altough i disagree, If you knew what you were doing, you could make an excellent gaming machine from a Linux box... believe me
[08:26] <siimo> Guys, please forgive me for being a newbie but i have a problem with ubuntu fiesty...  my sound card  when listening to anything theres loud and annoying static noise and crackling in the background that make it impossible to listen to the actual thing.. though i can hear it .. how do i solve this?  (i am typing this from windows as i dual booted and in windows sounds are perfect)
[08:26] <n2diy> Flannel:   Well, thank you, but I wasn't following the thread, so I don't have a clue....
[08:27] <_Ahti> NeoGeo64: I've had a dozen games run far better under Linux than Windows (ported and/or emulated)
[08:27] <NeoGeo64> _Ahti, yeah it just takes developers, developers, developers. DEVELOPERS, DEVELOPERS
[08:27] <_Ahti> NeoGeo64: You just need to know how... :)
[08:27] <kpr_of_threat> Indeed.
[08:27] <Evan_> wtf, why would toshiba put 533mhz ram in a 667mhz laptop
[08:27] <lunitus> problem is I don't have a root account setup when it's rebooting for the first time right?
[08:27] <Evan_> worse than hitler they are
[08:27] <n2diy> ! bugs
[08:27] <ubotu> If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.ubuntu.com/  -  Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/products/ubuntu-bots
[08:27] <kpr_of_threat> If we had that game element down there, I would probably just go completely native
 lol run a mixer and turn of capture
[08:27] <RoC_MM> siimo, it's distortion, you're mixer settings are too loud.
[08:27] <kpr_of_threat> Regardless of Zune compatibility and lack of Photoshop (I KNOW about Gimp)
[08:28] <Quaenorde> Lunitus -> The password you entered on install (when you entered a username) is the root pass, and to run a command with root permissions, just put 'sudo' in front of it.
[08:28] <Tom47> lunitus: there is no root account by default .... use sudo infron of yr commands
[08:28] <CNTRLX> Can someone help me with a dualboot from ubuntu grub hda, and getting it to pick up my debian partition sda\
[08:28] <RoC_MM> siimo, open the mixer, click the menu and goto OSS mixer...File-->>OSS Mixer...if mine is more than 85% than it distorts badly.
[08:28] <nomin> how come cedega CVS is free while regular cedega is not?
[08:28] <lunitus> hmm
[08:28] <siimo> RoC_MM: i have tried turning them all down and everything.. i also tried alsamixer instead of the volume control next to the clock   but it doesnt help... crackling noise goes down but as does the actual content sound
[08:28] <ziroday> nomin: cause the cvs is unstable
[08:28] <crimsun> nomin: regular contains binary-only proprietary components.
[08:29] <RoC_MM> siimo, did you adjust the OSS mixer device?
 actually it is not the root pass or it would work with su -- it is the pass of the user who is part of sudo
[08:29] <_Ahti> Hey, i got a friend of mine into Linux now, but the thing is i can't help him all the time, (rather i can't stand helping him all the time... newbies :) ) Does anyone know of a good website filled with tutorials for newbies?
[08:29] <lunitus> ok I'm off to try a few things then
[08:29] <siimo> RoC_MM: yes i tried it i tried all the mixer things i see in there
[08:29] <RoC_MM> siimo, there is an ALSA mixer, and an OSS mixer, two different devices with different levels.
[08:29] <Flannel> _Ahti: help.ubuntu.com
[08:30] <RoC_MM> siimo, when you click File, Devices, what do you see in the volume control?
[08:30] <lunitus> I guess I just don't understand why the live cd works great but the install didn't get my specs from probing?
[08:30] <siimo> yeah i saw this thing that let me choose device and it had OSS i tried that
[08:30] <siimo> RoC_MM: i am booted in windows right now so cant really try..
[08:30] <RoC_MM> OK
[08:30] <_Ahti> Flannel: I know that one.. but as in, for people migrating from Windows to Linux... This guy couldn't even open a terminal :P
 Really? I just enter my user pass when it asks for it after a sudo command, so I assumed it was the root pass... My apologies for the misconception.
[08:30] <tondar> hey all
 Shh. I used to be one of those people until not so long ago.
[08:31] <siimo> By the way i tried to Google for this problem and i Hit wikipedia site and it says  "Linux also supports Intel High Definition  Audio controllers, although some users suffer buffering problems leading to  crackling and skipping of the sound."
[08:31] <tondar> whats a good editor for ubuntu?
[08:31] <Tom47> lunitus: neither do i but it does seem to happen
[08:31] <siimo> is that true???
[08:31] <RoC_MM> siimo, select the OSS mixer, turn it to like 50-60%, then switch to the other regular sound device that should have a lot more sliders...then set things normally there...if the OSS mixer is too high it distorts all your sounds...I had the exact same problem.
[08:31] <_Ahti> Flannel: And whats worse, after installing Ubuntu on his computer he asked "Ok, so how do i run Windows software?"
[08:31] <nomin> tondar: what kind of editor?
[08:31] <Tom47> !sudo > lunitusjust in case it helps
[08:31] <Tom47> !sudo > lunitus just in case it helps
[08:31] <lunitus> tom47 is there a way to just copy the config the live cd is using to my hdd and then copy it over?
[08:31] <Flannel> _Ahti: That page (both the community documentation, and the official stuff) is really good.  I haven't tried the 7.04 stuff, but (most of) the older official help things apply still, and theyre wonderful
[08:31] <Quaenorde> Tondar: Text? 'Kate' or 'Gedit'.
[08:31] <siimo> i saw it here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intel_High_Definition_Audio
[08:31] <n2diy> tondar: what do you want to edit?
[08:32] <_Ahti> Flannel: Well thank you, :)
[08:32] <siimo> RoC_MM:  ok i will give it a try
[08:32] <siimo> but i think i have already tried that
[08:32] <Flannel> _Ahti: also, he can try ubuntuforums.org, theyre helpful (and more people are comfortable with webforums over IRC)
[08:33] <Quaenorde> <Flannel, _Ahti> The forums can be slow/never-coming in help, though.
 Really! su in my opiion is better -- i hate typing sudo every flipping command -- most distros use a root that you su to
[08:33] <nomin> _Ahti: I suggest ubuntuforums and taking one issue at a time.  Use google to search ubuntuforums, it's better then the site's own search engine.
[08:33] <Flannel> Quaenorde: So can everything else.  If you ask questions in an intelligent manner, and don't require a bunch of back and forth for proper diagnosis, theyre pretty reliable (just like here).
[08:33] <tondar> n2diy: I want to compare two text files
[08:34] <dawn_chorus> insmod, creating a root shell session is possible in ubuntu.
[08:34] <Flannel> insmod, Quaenorde, sudo is the ubuntu method.  insmod, please don't recommend people set root passwords and use su, thanks.
[08:34] <RoC_MM> tondar, diff!
[08:34] <tondar> RoC_MM: not that kind
[08:34] <nomin> _Ahti: just have this person come in here and ask.  Start with basic stuff like browsing and multimedia.
[08:34] <Tom47> lunitus: i would be inclined to run sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg first
[08:34] <RoC_MM> aww
[08:34] <RoC_MM> What kind tondar ?
[08:34] <tondar> RoC_MM: only to have both in a window
[08:34] <Flannel> insmod: `sudo -i` can get you a root shell, if you really want.  Although sudo isn't really that big of a burden
[08:34] <CaptainOblivious> !nvidia resolution
 : i know
[08:34] <RoC_MM> like.....a GUI diff?
[08:34] <Volta2056> flannel_ just want to say thanks to you, jordan_u, and nixternal as you've all helped enormously
[08:34] <RoC_MM> try meld tondar
[08:35] <CaptainOblivious> !nvidia
[08:35] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[08:35] <Quaenorde> <Flannel, insmod> I think I used su once in a while with Mepis, but I liked their root terminal option- enter the password once, and all commands were root permissioned.
[08:35] <n2diy> tondar: Are you running X?
 it is if you don't want users to have root
[08:35] <tondar> n2diy: yes
  that's what i say
[08:36] <Jordan_U> insmod, Then don't give them sudo privileges?
[08:36] <dawn_chorus> wonder if gksudo xterm would produce a root shell?
[08:36] <RoC_MM> yes dawn_chorus
i don't i just hate it is default
[08:36] <dawn_chorus> RoC_MM, cool.  a dockable root shell.  :)
[08:36] <Flannel> Quaenorde: `sudo -i` will do that.
[08:37] <RoC_MM> gksudo can be used anytime in place of sudo...sudo can only be used in a terminal because then you have to type your pass into the shell...gksudo creates a pop-up window.
 Turn the terminal into a root permissioned command center of doom?
 just another thing to do because linux has to be easy
[08:37] <Flannel> Quaenorde: You start a root shell, yes.
 Didn't know that, thanks. *Saves in her text file of 'Ubuntu useful commands'.
[08:37] <n2diy> tondar:  Ok, so click on Places > Home and, then do it  again, now you'll have two file browsers open, and you can open up the the two files side by side.
[08:38] <RoC_MM> You can do that in meld!
[08:38] <RoC_MM> !info meld
[08:38] <ubotu> meld: graphical tool to diff and merge files. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.1.4-0ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 612 kB, installed size 2056 kB
[08:40] <Quiz> Hi
[08:40] <Quaenorde> It got really quiet all of the sudden. 0_0
[08:41] <illriginal> Is there any way to make the right click menu, menu bar, and main menu black with white font, NOT using a theme?
[08:41] <n2diy> ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ
[08:41] <Quiz> Zzzzzzzzzzz
[08:42] <RoC_MM> Beryl has a invert screen color (or window colors) plugin illriginal
[08:42] <illriginal> RoC_MM where can I find that option? If you happen to know?
[08:42] <Quiz> To use beryl i need a cool video card?
[08:42] <RoC_MM> if you have Beryl installed. just press SUPER +M or SUPER +N
[08:42] <n2diy> illriginal: that is a window manger thing, try in #gnome, or #kde?
[08:42] <RoC_MM> The Super key looks like the Windows key btw.
[08:42] <RoC_MM> Although Windows is not Super.
[08:42] <liquiddoom> Yay retarded BIOSes... I'm setting up a massive raid here and its IDE controller doesn't wanna behave
[08:42] <Nutubuntu> Having trouble with a Feisty install. I've used the alternative CD and set up RAID1 across two disks. Installation hangs up while installing software. When I go back to the partitioner, it shows the partitions, but has them as "do not use". Do I need to wait for the RAID1 mirrored partitions to sync up with each other, before going on to install base packages and software (I can run mdadm in the shell and make sure that they do, i
[08:42] <Nutubuntu> f need be.)?
[08:43] <RoC_MM> Quiz, not really..you can do it with integrated video.
[08:43] <Quiz> i got fx5200 128 mb  its work fine?
[08:43] <RoC_MM> I think I got that exact card
[08:43] <illriginal> RoC_MM would you happen to know where I can find the plug in inside of beryl?
[08:44] <RoC_MM> Works awesome.
[08:44] <Tom47> you?
that was my old card -- loved it
[08:44] <Quiz> :) ok thanks
[08:44] <unimatrix9> hello all
[08:44] <TazzY`> where i can download aMULE? I cant foundit. Please help!
[08:44] <ziroday> Quiz: go to a FX5500 works great
[08:44] <chx> Dunno whether the devels get this but BIG HUGS for hotplugging monitors in Gutsy -- _can't wait_ !!!
[08:45] <Quiz> :) i need only trasnpert windows decerations
[08:45] <unimatrix9> is there an program that can restore ubuntu , or "freeze" like deepfreeze, for internet-cafe like settings?
[08:45] <bullgard4> The file /etc/pam.d/common-password contains the line "password required pam_unix.so nullok obscure min=4 max=8 md5." Does this mean that there are only maximally 8 characters relevant when forming the md5 sum?
[08:45] <RoC_MM> illriginal, just poke around, it is called "negative".
[08:45] <RoC_MM> or "invert" illriginal .
[08:45] <Quiz> ok i need to change sesion
[08:46] <n2diy> unimatrix9:  kiosk?
[08:46] <unimatrix9> no, not kiosk, these are standalone machines, that need to restore to default settings after reboot...
[08:47] <lunitus> absolutely awesome
[08:47] <TazzY`> where i can download aMULE? I cant foundit. Please help!
[08:47] <lunitus> got it working!
[08:47] <Quaenorde> Okie. I was up until 4 yesterday, I refuse to have a repeat. So I'm off to bed. 'Night all.
[08:47] <n2diy> unimatrix9:  I thought that was what kiosks did?
[08:47] <unimatrix9> so its an normal install , to demonstrate, or work on, after reboot, all should be rollback
  that's early !
[08:47] <unimatrix9> an non breakable workstation...
[08:48] <liquiddoom> Not if someone gets to it with a hammer.
[08:48] <liquiddoom> I say, if you can't find anything
[08:48] <lunitus> thank you tonnes for the help guys
[08:48] <lunitus> and probably not here but girls if there are any....
[08:48] <Quiz> How to find xmms directory i don't remember :(((
[08:48] <unimatrix9> its easy to protect 1200 windows pc's, you just use an program called deepfreeze, now with ubuntu its an different story
[08:48] <kraut> moin
[08:49] <unimatrix9> so we need to come up with an anwer, and soon...:P
 cd .xmms
[08:49] <liquiddoom> Just do something like make a filesystem image and have some bootup script restore it
[08:49] <unimatrix9> answer*
[08:49] <unimatrix9> all tips are welcome ( how to's are better )
[08:50] <Quiz> insmod, thanks but i need skins directory
 cd .xmms/Skins  - i believe you make it
[08:50] <mongolai> the documentation for ubuntu seems to be rather comprehensive, but I'm having trouble doing some things (advanced things)
[08:50] <ziroday> unimatrix9: hows a program sound? check out LTSP, im using it in a orphange in inodnesia and i know a few schools that use it too
[08:51] <Quiz> insmod,  :D thanks
[08:51] <Flannel> !ask | mongolai
[08:51] <ubotu> mongolai: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
 ya that's it
[08:51] <VivekShamraj> Hi All
[08:51] <unimatrix9> yes, thats one solution, but LTSP needs an server, these are standalone machines...
[08:51] <Tom47> lunitus: how?
 http://extragear.kde.org/apps/kiosktool/
[08:52] <lunitus> sudo Xorg -configure
[08:52] <lunitus> then just copied it and it works great
[08:52] <Tom47> lunitus: good ty
[08:52] <Flannel> unimatrix9: What are you trying to prevent?  Just lockdown the user to not be able to do anything.
[08:52] <abhi> i have a strange problem with my samba server it shows me two directories in windows one homes and another of the user name
[08:52] <lunitus> now I have to get my sound working :S
[08:52] <abhi> how do i get rid of homes?
[08:52] <lunitus> man pages really help :P
[08:52] <liquiddoom> Agh! Google has failed me, that's something entirely different
[08:53] <abhi> i don't want two links to the same directory
[08:53] <mongolai> alright, where can I find the "Vanilla Debian" parts of the Documentation. I'm used to the Slackware way of editing conf files by hand, but that doesn't seem to be the way here...
[08:53] <unimatrix9> Flannel, i am trying to prevent from standalone ubuntu installs ( gnome desktop ) from being broken, and need the defaults to restore after reboot ...
[08:53] <mongolai> ...too simple ;)
[08:53] <lalit> I am trying to change my resolution to 1680x1050, but it doesn't seem to work. I've tried to edit the xorg.conf file, i've tried to run the dpkg-reconfigure on it, but nothing seems to work, any ideas?
[08:54] <unimatrix9> kiosk tool is nice , but we have gnome desktop.. i did look into pesselus, but its still possible to break many things
[08:54] <lunitus> anyone else using a toshiba satelite laptop, and if so any tips on getting my sound card working?
[08:54] <yell0w> uhm guys, is there a way to make nautilus split its windows into two for easy drag and drop ?
[08:54] <mongolai> lalit: did you restart x.org?
 Like OSX's expose?
[08:54] <lalit> mongolai: i did the ctrl-alt-backspace, I also restarted the computer.
[08:54] <Flannel> unimatrix9: from being broken: don't give the user admin powers.  As for defaults to restore, thats... well, accomplishable a number of ways.  Simply removing write permissions places is one.
[08:55] <yell0w> liquiddoom, like how an ftp would look like
[08:55] <yell0w> say filezilla
[08:55] <crimsun> lunitus: `kill $(lsof -t /dev/dsp* /dev/audio* /dev/mixer* /dev/snd/*) && sudo modprobe -r snd-hda-intel && sudo modprobe snd-hda-intel probe_mask=8 model=3stack`
 Ah... I see. I'm not sure
[08:55] <mongolai> lalit:  you might have made the changes to the wong part of the xorg.conf file...
[08:55] <Quiz> o_o i can't install with sudo apt-get help .... http://paste.php.lv/5695
[08:55] <lunitus> aye aye sir
[08:55] <lunitus> trying now
[08:55] <mongolai> ...it can be confusing as hell!!
[08:55] <Flannel> unimatrix9: if you wanted, you could also just boot from an imagine each time.  Although I'm not sure about specifics of that one
[08:55] <yell0w> liquiddoom, ok
[08:55] <Nutubuntu> well, good night, all
[08:56] <yell0w> i wonder if that's even possible to begin with
[08:56] <mongolai> ...now I gotta figure out how to use XChat-gnome !!
[08:56] <RoC_MM> !info xmms-normalize
[08:56] <ubotu> Package xmms-normalize does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[08:56] <lunitus> I don't think there was anything to kill
[08:56] <alecwh> Hello, I'm having a problem with my computer idling.  Anyway, when I wake up in the morning, Ubuntu is frozen. I move around the mouse and keyboard, and I get no response. The LCD doesn't get a signal, and my "caps lock" button does nothing. Is there any way I can stop this, or stop my computer from idling altogether?
[08:57] <VivekShamraj> Is there a way to determine if my BIOS suffers from 1024 cylinder limit
[08:57] <lunitus> but I took out that command and then I was back at the prompt
[08:57] <lalit> mongolai: this is my conf file: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26369/
[08:57] <unimatrix9> hmm, how would i boot into an image? i looked into GRUB, and did try to get an livecd image to boot from hard disk, but it hangs after a few seconds...
[08:57] <yell0w> alecwh, maybe turn off screensaver ?
[08:57] <Flannel> alecwh: does it respond to serverish stuff?  (is it just the local UI thats frozen? or the whole thing?
[08:57] <alecwh> Yell0w, where is my screensaver? And Flannel, I haven't checked yet.
[08:57] <mongolai> lalit: i sent you a private message, can we talk there?
[08:57] <alecwh> Nice to see you again, Flannel. :)
[08:58] <alecwh> And is that what is causing the problem?
[08:58] <yell0w> Flannel!
[08:58] <yell0w> you know how to split nautilus into two windows view ?
[08:58] <TaJMoX> ctrl+w ?
[08:58] <alecwh> yell0w?
[08:58] <TaJMoX> sorry - i mean ctrl+N
[08:59] <Flannel> unimatrix9: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BootToRAM  There's one.
[08:59] <unimatrix9> i guess there is no easy one way solution yet
[08:59] <jerem1> can anyone help getting wireless networking up again - and nvidia probs?
[08:59] <lunitus> crimsun still no sound though
[08:59] <crimsun> lunitus: did you adjust the mixer volumes?
[08:59] <Flannel> unimatrix9: except I think that won't use the HDD at all, except during boot.
[08:59] <yell0w> TaJMoX, i meant like filezilla's layout, two panes in the same windows
[08:59] <unimatrix9> yes i followed that and tested it yesterday, but , as i said it hangs in casper running scripts
[08:59] <TaJMoX> unimatrix9 you want to boot from like an iso ?
[08:59] <jerem1> (I think there's a prob with restricted drivers)
[08:59] <TaJMoX> yell0w : i think the method would be to make two windows
[08:59] <lunitus> pcm is at full
[08:59] <Quiz> how to became "root on ubuntu
[09:00] <Flannel> !sudo | Quiz
[09:00] <ubotu> Quiz: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[09:00] <liquiddoom> !sudo | Quiz
[09:00] <TaJMoX> yell0w : and the proper comparison would be midnight commander not filezilla =]
[09:00] <jerem1> quiz- sudo -i
[09:00] <yell0w> TaJMoX, there's noway to fit them into one, each half of the windows ?
[09:00] <thyko> Quiz: sudo passwd root
[09:00] <yell0w> TaJMoX, just GUI here
[09:00] <lunitus> crimsun ya it's turned up but still no sound, but I don't get an error saying no device was found anymore
[09:00] <thyko> Quiz: then $su
[09:01] <Flannel> thyko: Please don't recommend that here.
[09:01] <yell0w> TaJMoX, i actually like filezilla's layout
[09:01] <unimatrix9> TajMoX : do you know , boot from iso with GRUB loader from hard disk, is not supported ( yet ) but that would be an solution too
[09:01] <Quiz> Thanks i fixed my problem
[09:01] <crimsun> lunitus: pastebin `amixer`, then tell me the url
[09:01] <mongolai> idefine: msg me.
[09:01] <thyko> Flannel: why?
[09:01] <mongolai> we'll see if it works this way
[09:01] <idefine> mongolai: I did, but I still do not see a new window for you
[09:01] <idefine> mongolai, using x-chat
[09:01] <Quiz> thyko,  i do this sudo -i and i become root
[09:02] <mongolai> yes, i am. seems i or both of need to register...
[09:02] <Spark420> Hello.
[09:02] <Flannel> thyko: few reasons, first, there's no reason for someone with Ubuntu to use/have a root account enabled.  Second, sticking to canon in this chat room makes it easier on users and helpers alike in the future when stuff comes up.
[09:02] <idefine> mongolai, I have registered. you might have to.
[09:02] <lunitus> http://pastebin.com/932425
[09:02] <mongolai> shoot, I don't really want to clog this room up...
[09:02] <mongolai> OOOhhh!! ok
[09:02] <mongolai> lemme do that real quick.
[09:03] <mongolai> I'm not used to XChat.
[09:03] <unimatrix9> is there an program that can restore ubuntu , or "freeze" like deepfreeze, for internet-cafe like settings and school computers
[09:03] <lunitus> just forget line 84
[09:03] <lunitus> :S
[09:03] <Spark420> Unimatrix: have you searched through adept?
[09:03] <lunitus> my pr0n just isn't the same without sound, know what I mean?
[09:03] <bullgard4> The file /etc/pam.d/common-password contains the line "password required pam_unix.so nullok obscure min=4 max=8 md5." Does this mean that there are only maximally 8 characters relevant when forming the md5 sum?
[09:04] <unimatrix9> Spark420 , you mean see if there is an program that does it?
[09:04] <alecwh> I have Wine/Utorrent installed, and for some reason, uTorrent is minimized onto my tray, and I can't get it to maximize. I'm running Beryl, but I don't think that's the problem. I've tried everything; restarting, right click>maximize... nothing works. Is there a solution?
 yes i think so
[09:04] <kwajstabo> i am using xchat. There is a red line below someones post. What does it mean?
[09:04] <mongolai> idefine: could you  do a "/msg nickserv set unfiltered on" for a short while?
[09:04] <kwajstabo> hello
[09:04] <Spark420> unimatrix: yeah I'm sure theres something registered within adept for it, ill check sourceforge
[09:05] <mongolai> i promise not to spam you
[09:05] <bullgard4> insmod: Understood.
[09:05] <unimatrix9> ok , thanks
 lst looked at
 last looked at
[09:05] <unimatrix9> alway's helpfull , the ubuntu community :)
[09:05] <Quiz> who knows a Latvia?
[09:06] <jerem1> can anyone help resolve restricted drivers issue?
[09:06] <Spark420> http://sourceforge.net/projects/cyborg/
[09:06] <Spark420> That looks promising
[09:06] <Spark420> Unimatrix
[09:06] <HowardTheCoward> Quiz: there's such a country i guess
[09:06] <ziroday> !anyone | jerem1
[09:06] <ubotu> jerem1: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[09:06] <Quiz> :)
[09:07] <thyko> Flannel: i have plenty of reasons to have a root account, but i see where ur coming from with the the canon thing.
[09:07] <unimatrix9> reading it now
[09:07] <unimatrix9> :)
[09:07] <Quiz> ! Latvia
[09:07] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about latvia - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:07] <jerem1> wireless networking is no longer working, following attempting to resolve nvidia driver issues. I suspect problem may have come from reinstalling multiple nvidia components/packages using apt and aptitude, but not sure
[09:07] <Quiz> ! Ubuntu
[09:07] <ubotu> Ubuntu is a complete Linux-based operating system, freely available with both community and professional support. It is developed by a large community and we invite you to participate too! - Also see http://www.ubuntu.com
[09:07] <Quiz> ! Gentoo
[09:07] <ubotu> Other !Linux distributions besides !Ubuntu include: Debian, Mepis (using !APT); RedHat, Fedora, SUSE, Mandriva (using !RPM); Gentoo, Slackware (using other packaging systems)
[09:08] <thyko> ! Sativa
[09:08] <alecwh> Quiz, please don't abuse the ubotu bot.
[09:08] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sativa - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:08] <cafuego> Quiz: /msg ubotu <question>
[09:08] <Quiz> :) ok
[09:08] <Quiz> :D
[09:10] <noodles> dia.com
[09:11] <mongolai>      /msg nickserv set hide email on
[09:12] <mongolai> idefine: I think I'm registered now...
[09:12] <Quiz> wow i start beryl first time and all work fine  but i don't have windows deceration
[09:14] <Pconfigi> quiz: Do you have the red diamond in your taskbar?
[09:14] <Quiz> yes
[09:15] <Pconfigi> right click it and click reload window decorator and reload window manager
[09:15] <skymonio> hello
[09:15] <skymonio> i
[09:15] <skymonio> which language do you speak ?
[09:16] <linux_probe> very interesting
[09:16] <Quiz> Pconfigi, i do that and nothing :(
[09:17] <Pconfigi> Hm, you could try to restart the x-server by pressing ctrl + alt + backspace (you will get kicked of irc though :p)
[09:17] <Pconfigi> Skymonio, i speak dutch as my native language
[09:17] <lunitus> crimsun I got my sound working if you're still looking at my pastebin
[09:17] <lunitus> is there a way to change the pw that my keyring app is using?
[09:18] <geekkit> this will sound stupid since im using the application but how do you tell xchat gnome to show users?
[09:18] <crimsun> lunitus: I'm not; I'm at work.  What did you need to do?
[09:18] <Quiz> ok i try
[09:18] <lunitus> crimsun it's all good, what you got me to do worked after a reboot
[09:18] <lunitus> thanks a lot
[09:18] <crimsun> lunitus: ok.
[09:18] <crimsun> lunitus: np.
[09:18] <cooner750> So did anyone manage to find a solution to my problem?
[09:19] <keck0f> hi.
[09:19] <Pconfigi> hello
[09:20] <geekkit> anyone using xchat?
[09:20] <Pconfigi> i am
[09:20] <geekkit> ok, how do you show the user list?
[09:20] <geekkit> like mirc where its on the right side
[09:20] <keck0f> as i have seen is oracle express edition 10g certified to run with ubuntu. ( http://www.oracle.com/technology/software/products/database/oracle10g/index.html ). Does anyone know when we will expect that oracle enterprise editions will be certified?
[09:20] <lunitus> man I'm loving ubuntu!
[09:21] <geekkit> lunitus: ubuntu is quite cool
[09:21] <geekkit> :)
[09:21] <Spark420> Yeah.
[09:21] <lunitus> best linux ever!
[09:21] <Spark420> I actually use Kubuntu. I'm a cheater :P
[09:21] <geekkit> i have been using now for a month
[09:21] <Spark420> Debiantastic
[09:21] <Pconfigi> geekkit: It's on the right by default
[09:21] <Pconfigi> geekkit: It's just pretty small, you need to drag it a little
[09:22] <geekkit> aside from me accidentally screwing up home mount path everything has been fine :P but that was a case of PBMAC
[09:22] <geekkit> Pconfigi...thanks, ill try that
[09:23] <lunitus> only linux I've run that runs my wireless card by default!
[09:24] <Quiz> Ehh... i restatrt "x" and nothind i don't see widnows decerations when i start beryl
[09:24] <geekkit> i tried on my wifes computer but the hp scanner didnt like it and neither did the old matrox card. oh well. it makes for a good case to buy a new computer for her ;)
[09:25] <Pconfigi> Quiz, you might want to try another theme and then reload the window decorator again. If that doesn't help.. then i don't know :)
[09:25] <geekkit> bbl ...
[09:25] <abhi> i want all users to be able to access a folder using samba
[09:25] <abhi> what should i do?
[09:25] <Quiz> Pconfigi,  ok :) how to change theme?
[09:25] <HowardTheCoward> abhi: read the docs and set it up
[09:25] <abhi> i want like a public or common folder
[09:25] <abhi> i can't figure it out :(
[09:26] <abhi> i read the docs
[09:26] <abhi> but it's all jargon
[09:26] <Pconfigi> Quiz: Right click ==> Emerald Theme Manager
[09:26] <HowardTheCoward> i think there was a commented example in smb.conf which does exactly that
[09:26] <HowardTheCoward> abhi: that was for you
[09:26] <CNTRLX> Can someone help me with a dualboot from ubuntu grub hda, and getting it to pick up my debian partition sda\
[09:26] <Quiz> ohhh there are cool themes how to use them
[09:26] <Quiz> ?
[09:27] <Pconfigi> Just click on one and reload the window decorator. Works for me that way ;)
[09:27] <abhi> HowardTheCoward what does %S mean?
[09:27] <abhi> does it mean all users?
[09:27] <HowardTheCoward> abhi: i don't know in what context
[09:28] <abhi> HowardTheCoward in valid users context
[09:28] <Quiz> Pconfigi,  thanks for help my decorations don't work :(
[09:28] <Pconfigi> Quiz.. What's selected at 'Select window manager'?
[09:29] <HowardTheCoward> abhi: http://pastebin.ca/578245
[09:29] <HowardTheCoward> this is a snippet from the default smb.conf
[09:29] <Quiz> beryl\
[09:29] <Pconfigi> what happens if you select the gnome one?
[09:30] <Quiz> i don't know i try
[09:30] <lunitus> is there a gmail notifier for linux?
[09:30] <Quiz> ohh then don't wokr beryl and i got my old decorations
[09:30] <cafuego> mount it as gmailfs and run fam on it? ;-)
[09:31] <lunitus> actually there is one!!
[09:31] <lunitus> man....wow
[09:31] <QwertyM> lunitus, there are more than 4 :P
[09:31] <lunitus> hehe
[09:31] <lunitus> there is one in the add/remove option right from google
[09:31] <lunitus> woot
[09:32] <QwertyM> though I prefer a gmail checking addon in firefox :)
[09:32] <Pconfigi> Quiz, and if you reselect it now it disappears again?
[09:32] <lerio> pls help how can i install genius color vivid 3x in my feisty
[09:32] <Quiz> yes
[09:33] <lunitus> is www-browser the default path for firefox?
[09:33] <xenex> http://www.mathimatiko.net/software/rsget/rsget-2.6.tar.gz -- how do you make executables like this work?
[09:33] <QwertyM> lunitus, yes if thats your default browser
[09:33] <Pconfigi> Quiz .. I don't know then. Sorry
[09:33] <lunitus> isn't it by default?
[09:33] <lunitus> I haven't changed it
[09:34] <QwertyM> yeah, just in case you'd installed Opera or something ..
[09:34] <Quiz> Pconfigi,  ohh ok thanks  for helping i think mybe its my video card problem ore mybe i need to enable desktop efects
[09:34] <yo2k> how to make virtual/aliases nic ?
[09:35] <Pconfigi> I don't think it's your video card. If it's a problem on the level, beryl usually complains when you start it.
[09:35] <HowardTheCoward> yo2k: use eth0:0, eth0:1 as interface name
[09:35] <lerio> does genius has support driver for ubuntu feisty
[09:35] <yo2k> HowardTheCoward, that i mean...
[09:35] <Quiz> when i enable desktop efects then i don't have decorations
[09:35] <yo2k> HowardTheCoward, ok, thank's to try that...
[09:36] <Quiz> then i use metacity and gnome :D
[09:36] <yo2k> HowardTheCoward, may i use 1 nic to share internet ?
[09:37] <Pconfigi> quiz, you could try to ask at a later moment, there might be somebody who can help you then :)
[09:37] <yo2k> HowardTheCoward, eth0:0 = ip public, eth0:1 = ip locak ?
[09:37] <Quiz> Pconfigi, ok :) thanks
[09:37] <yo2k> HowardTheCoward, eth0:0 = ip public, eth0:1 = ip local ?
[09:37] <Pconfigi> yw
[09:37] <HowardTheCoward> yo2k: i don't know your setup. but you have one link from the internet router, and one more link to the box which you want to provide internet access with, so this makes already two NICs
[09:37] <lunitus> if I plugin firefox %u for the default browser gmail notifier opens my inbox but not with www-browser
[09:38] <yo2k> HowardTheCoward, yes, but i use 1 nic ...
[09:38] <bobslaede> hello, i'm having problems with my keyboard layout! i usually use danish, but i also need us english, but i'm missing certain characters. I have my layouts in xorg.conf as 'dk,us'
[09:39] <bobslaede> but i'm missing the pipeline, keycode 21 i believe
[09:39] <HowardTheCoward> yo2k: you can't stick two cable connectors into one NIC, right?
[09:40] <yo2k> HowardTheCoward, yes, eth0:0, eth0:1 = can up twice ?
[09:41] <HowardTheCoward> yo2k: your interface is eth0, with eth0:0  and eth0:1 you will already have three interfaces
[09:41] <Mr_Awesome> where is the "Wastebasket" located in my filesystem?
[09:41] <bobslaede> Mr_Awesome: depends on how you delete stuff..
[09:41] <phx> good morning
[09:41] <crocodile> is it possible to set some programs to not appear in the taskbar?  (i'm usinng KDE)
[09:41] <phx> how can i disable the /var/run tmpfs mount in dapper?
[09:41] <yo2k> HowardTheCoward, no, i have 1 nic, i want to share internet...
[09:41] <Mr_Awesome> bobslaede: i mean the folder that opens when i click the wastebasket icon in the lower right corner of my screen
[09:42] <bobslaede> !kubuntu
[09:42] <ubotu> Kubuntu is Ubuntu with KDE, the K Desktop Environment, instead of Gnome. See http://kubuntu.org for more information - For support: #kubuntu - See also !KDE
[09:42] <HowardTheCoward> yo2k: how do you get internet to your primary box?
[09:42] <bobslaede> Mr_Awesome: i think its it nautilus somewhere, not a real folder
[09:42] <crocodile> I can't get in #kubuntu it says i'mnot identified :/
[09:42] <yo2k> HowardTheCoward, i joint with 1 switch
[09:43] <bullgard4> The file /etc/pam.d/common-password contains the line "password required pam_unix.so nullok obscure min=4 max=8 md5." Does this mean that there are only maximally 8 characters relevant when forming the md5 sum of a password?
[09:43] <yo2k> HowardTheCoward, or i use a different segment
[09:43] <Mr_Awesome> bobslaede: do you know how you might delete something from the command line so it goes there instead of being deleted permanently?
[09:43] <bobslaede> Mr_Awesome: i'm sorry, no
[09:43] <HowardTheCoward> yo2k: what's the problem with buying a $5 NIC ?
[09:44] <yo2k> so far from a near city.... maybe need 4-5 days to get it...
[09:44] <Mr_Awesome> bobslaede: ok, thanks anyway
[09:45] <tonsofpcs> anyone know why a package install attempt with gdebi would say dep not satisfiable on libc6?  [feisty]
[09:45] <geekkit> another xchat question ... anyone know how to accept multiple requests from people. example: in a channel and type: @find electric skychurch which should pop up results from people with that particular file. Xchat states: You are being CTCP flooded from XXX, ignoring. Any ideas?
[09:45] <yo2k> HowardTheCoward: $5 = no problem, wait 4-5 days it's problem... i try  that... thank's ...
[09:46] <lunitus> how difficult is it to get the ati driver working?
[09:46] <tonsofpcs> geekkit: disable the flood block feature
[09:46] <lunitus> something I can do in the next 10 minutes or should I go to sleep?
[09:46] <geekkit> tonsofpcs: thanks. is that under prefs?
[09:47] <tonsofpcs> geekkit: not sure, I use irssi, but i'd assume so
[09:48] <geekkit> tonsofpcs: thanks. ill look
[09:50] <mongolai> I have a question I think I asked earlier, but can't remember if I did regarding hand-editing system-configuration files.
[09:50] <aport> just ask :)
[09:51] <geekkit> sudo gedit <filename>
[09:51] <mongolai> ok, is the Ubuntu way the same as the Debian way when it comes to editing init and runlevel files?
[09:51] <illriginal> Can someone tell me why everytime I log on... a stupid file browser window opens? It
[09:51] <illriginal> It's been doin this for a week now.
[09:52] <Frogzoo_> illriginal: sys -> prefs -> session
[09:52] <bllz> hey all
[09:52] <mongolai> for instance, if I su'd root, could I get away with going through the rc.* files and commentint things out, or not?
[09:53] <bllz> i have a really wierd problem. any help would be greatly appreciated!
[09:53] <liquiddoom> !ask | bllz
[09:53] <ubotu> bllz: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[09:53] <illriginal> Frogzoo_ I'm in there.. but what could cause this problem?
[09:53] <mongolai> ...or is there a better way of editing system files?
[09:53] <BadRobot> hi there =-o
[09:53] <bllz> haha okay, well here goes...
[09:53] <illriginal> command: /home/illriginal/startberyl.sh ???
[09:53] <bllz> I've successfully used my dialup internet connection with Kubuntu
[09:54] <bllz> but ubuntu didnt install with gnome-ppp (wtf?!) so I can't connect to the internet!
[09:54] <illriginal> Frogzoo_ could it be this: command: /home/illriginal/startberyl.sh
[09:54] <illriginal> ?
[09:54] <mongolai> did you use kppp or ksaferppp?
[09:54] <mongolai> @ bllz
[09:54] <aport> mongolai, even though Ubuntu has a different way of handling the files (upstart) the files are the same, I don't believe there would be any differences
[09:54] <bllz> what's worse, I can't download Gnome-PPP and KPPP wont install to Ubuntu from the kubuntu cd
[09:54] <bllz> i used KPPP
[09:55] <mongolai> aport: thanks, I just don't want to mess things up down the line...
[09:55] <bllz> mongolai, I used KPPP when I was running kubuntu.  That's what I'm doing now from the livecd
[09:55] <aport> mongolai, just make backups
[09:55] <aport> backups are good
[09:55] <mongolai> aport: I'm used to Slackware where hand-rolling is the way of the game ;)
[09:56] <BadRobot> i've have a ubuntu feisty fawn and i am having problems with my wifi network/internet,i can connect to open wireless internet ,but i can't connect to my and i am using WEP(with password)
[09:56] <bllz> oh and when I try to connect my modem via 'networks' i can hear it dial, but then nothing works
[09:56] <Spark420> LOIL
[09:56] <bllz> so i feel like i could easily solve this with either gnome-ppp or KPPP
[09:56] <Spark420> Modem
[09:56] <bllz> Spark420, sigh...
[09:57] <Spark420> Sorry its just...
[09:57] <Spark420> Like
[09:57] <bllz> 80's...
[09:57] <Spark420> Yeh
[09:57] <bllz> yeah, I'm at my parents house for the summer and they don't believe in highspeed
[09:57] <Spark420> It's like hearing "Well I cranked my car up really good but it still won't run"
[09:57] <bllz> haha I know, right!
[09:57] <bllz> I'd just love to have internet access over the summer...
[09:58] <Spark420> oh oh
[09:58] <Spark420> that reminds me
[09:58] <mongolai> bllz:  the old way of testing modem problems was to use 'minicom'.
[09:58] <Spark420> ITT: We talk about what were doing this summer.
[09:58] <bllz> mongolai, I think i just need to figure out a way to get either KPPP or Gnome-ppp onto my ubuntu install
[09:58] <harry> apt-get install kppp
[09:58] <liquiddoom> Bleh, my server seems to need a new CD-ROM drive... this one is flaking out and not being detected by the BIOS... oh, I love PCs...
[09:59] <bllz> harry, for some reason it won't let me install KPPP on Ubuntu!
[09:59] <harry> interesting ive never had a problem with that
[09:59] <Markstar> Hi,
[09:59] <Markstar> I have a problem to install Ubunto in order to finally get rid of Windows:
[09:59] <Markstar> I boot from DVD (Ubuntu 7.04 64bit Desktop), select "Install" and soon after that the screen goes black and the computer is frozen.
[09:59] <Markstar> A friend told me that because I have a Geforce, I might solve this by entering some command before installing and that this is rather common. However, I can't find anything via Google.
[09:59] <bllz> it says that either the hardware  isn't right or the vendor has chosen not to support it!  and that can't be true
[09:59] <Markstar> Any help would be appreciated!!!
[09:59] <bllz> bc it works in kubuntu
[09:59] <bllz> just not in ubuntu/gnome... it's so weird
[09:59] <bllz> any chance someone could send me a .deb package of gnome-ppp via AIM or something?
[10:00] <harry> markstar, do you have a 64bit processor
[10:00] <Markstar> Yes, AMD X2
 Sure, but it'll take a while
[10:00] <bllz> would you be willing to do it, liquiddoom?
[10:00] <harry> i would bllz but im kinda in a crappy area for internet with my aircard
 I'm liquidougon on AIM.
[10:00] <bllz> okay, thanks a lot! i'll quickly get kopete set up!
[10:00] <Spark420> Nothing on TV at this time at night.
[10:00] <Spark420> It sucks
[10:01] <harry> TV is the devil bobby boucher
[10:01] <bllz> liquiddoom, I'm kokotheonkey87 on AIM
[10:01] <bllz> tty soon
[10:01] <harry> markstar thats interesting
[10:01] <harry> markstar i would try downloading the iso again
[10:01] <harry> maybe you got some fubar crap
[10:02] <BadRobot> so,anyone could give me some help overhere?
[10:02] <Markstar> hmm, interesting. Well, there is an option to check if the CD/DVD is broken, you think the image is broken despite it checking out there?
[10:03] <mongolai> BadRobot: what's the problem?
[10:04] <jonty> anyone: having problem with windows crashing slightly - the close, minimise etc buttons don't work. Can't find if this bug is reported anywhere. Anyone know anything about this?
[10:04] <makuseru> how can i check in a term to see if i have a package installed
[10:04] <illriginal> Does anyone know if this command: /home/illriginal/startberyl.sh @ start up is causing the File browser to start everytime I log on?!
[10:04] <RAOF> jonty: You'd be using Compiz or Beryl or Desktop Effects, right?
[10:05] <NeoGeo64> when are instances in which i need to reboot linux
[10:05] <JerseyMonkey> Hello: I'm having an issue with Pidgin, in that it keeps a history of your buddy list, that differs from the one that is saved remotely on AIM's server. I've tried removing Pidgin and installing again, does anyone know how to remove this 'outdated' buddy list from my system? I asked on their IRC channel, but noone answered.
[10:05] <NeoGeo64> when are instances in which it would be easier to reboot linux
[10:05] <NeoGeo64> thats better phrased
[10:07] <_kartmman> m
[10:07] <jonty> raof: I did try beryl  - which worked but I didn't really like it. when it was installed thats when this prob appeared. however I have uninstalled beryl and don't use effects. Something left on the system still?
[10:07] <gordonjcp> NeoGeo64: after replacing the kernel
[10:07] <BadRobot> so,if i use it somewhere where i don't need to connect with WEP password it connects well,but if i need to connect @ home where i need the password it won't connect.So,could anyone give me some help?
[10:07] <NeoGeo64> software doesnt require a reboot? why
[10:07] <lunitus> ok so I've installed the ati driver but...the 3d is working like crap, but my real question is will this driver still output to my tv through s-video?  And if so how do I do that?
[10:08] <geekkit> I came, i saw, i kicked its butt. if anyone is using Xchat and they dont want to ignore people trying to ctcp you ... there is no GUI selection. You have to go: gedit ~/.xchat2 and change flood_ctcp_num = 5 to flood_ctcp_num = 500, and flood_msg_num = 5 to flood_msg_num = 500. That should allow accepting files. Got the info from http://xchat-win32.berlios.de/setvars.html
[10:08] <RAOF> jonty: That's odd.  The problem is probably that metacity (the Gnome window manager, which among other things is responsible for the window titlebars) isnt starting.
[10:08] <geekkit> its kind of weird its not in the gui but hey, at least its configurable
[10:08] <lunitus> ah nevermind, I guess it's doing it already....
[10:08] <incorrect> is there a date for the next LTS release?
[10:08] <Jordan_U> NeoGeo64, *nix is modular
[10:08] <lunitus> is there a way to manage the displays though?
[10:09] <NeoGeo64> how modular is Windows(R) Vista(TM) by Microsoft(TM)
[10:09] <RAOF> incorrect: It'll be gutsy+1, I believe, which makes it Ubuntu 8.04
[10:09] <jonty> raof: sorry - didn't mention that this is an intermittent fault - not all windows, not all the time!
[10:10] <incorrect> why is it always 04 is that the month?
[10:10] <asparagus> im having issues with DVDs on Ubuntu..i get wierd colored diagonal lines on all of them
[10:10] <cdiddy> anyone here?
[10:10] <Spark420> Nope
[10:10] <BadRobot> me
[10:10] <Spark420> Only like 100+ people.
[10:10] <Pconfigi> :p
[10:10] <cdiddy> hah
[10:10] <cdiddy> stupid me
[10:11] <Spark420> Nah most of them idle anyway.
[10:11] <Pconfigi> 1056 Total :o
[10:11] <RAOF> incorrect: Correct - the naming scheme is "last digit of the year. the month"
[10:11] <Spark420> Whats up.
[10:11] <BadRobot> but no one is able to help me @ the moment .i guess
[10:11] <Spark420> Yeah 1000 I didnt have time to count OK?!
[10:11] <Spark420> GOD
[10:11] <RAOF> incorrect: So Gutsy is going to be "7.10"
[10:11] <cdiddy> first time ubuntu distro user
[10:11] <incorrect> ah!
[10:11] <Spark420> Yay newbies!
[10:11] <Spark420> I love em
[10:11] <Jordan_U> NeoGeo64, Vista is a monolithic mess, case in point: You still can't remove the web browser since it's a vital part of the OS
[10:11] <Spark420> Theyre snuggly
[10:11] <incorrect> i wondered why it started at versoin 5
[10:11] <bllz> and cute
[10:11] <cdiddy> lol
[10:11] <bllz> lol... i am cuddly and cute... what a good day...
[10:12] <cdiddy> i have a quick question: anyone ever tried to get activesync to work throug WINE?
[10:12] <geekkit> Jordan: ah, but vista no longer has the vid drivers in the kernel so it is less monolithic :P
[10:12] <lunitus> anyone?
[10:12] <Spark420> ActiveSync?
[10:12] <Spark420> Is that for PalmOS devices?
[10:12] <cdiddy> no, wm device
[10:12] <Spark420> Windows Media?
[10:12] <geekkit> of course its still all a big pile of crap but at least the video card drivers wont crash anymore ;)
[10:12] <cdiddy> Wmobile
[10:12] <Spark420> No idea wtf that is.
[10:12] <Spark420> But ill look it up for you.
[10:13] <cdiddy> Windows moble
[10:13] <Spark420> Yeah thats what I siad.
[10:13] <Spark420> or meant
[10:13] <Spark420> whatever
[10:13] <Spark420> STOP PICKING ON ME
[10:13] <dts> Any ideas why I'm using 99% of my memory eventhough no tasks whatsoever are running ? http://pastebin.com/932454
[10:14] <RAOF> jonty: Well, that's weird.  I therefore don't know.  I don't even know what could be causing that!
[10:15] <Spark420> ActiveSync cdiddy?
[10:15] <geekkit> buy all .... need sleep!!!!
[10:15] <cdiddy> Spark420: yes ...
[10:15] <Spark420> Ok hold on
[10:16] <cdiddy> Spark420: Im very comfortable having linux on my desktop, but I want to get rid it on my laptop, and I know support is crap, but I want to be able to use my pda as a modem
[10:16] <mdious> dts:  sorry I'm an idiot, but isn't it because you have so much stuff running?
[10:16] <cdiddy> cdiddy: there is a program i do it through XP
[10:16] <cdiddy> Spark420: there is a program i do it through XP
[10:16] <NForc3r_> hi guys
[10:16] <Spark420> I know I was looking if there was any Linux imitations for it
[10:16] <cdiddy> Spark420: if i can get my device detected, maybe I can just use the diaulup that way
[10:17] <NForc3r_> i need a bit of help
[10:17] <Spark420> Wait dialup?
[10:17] <Spark420> What now.
[10:17] <cdiddy> My pda is 700wx
[10:17] <mongolai> what's up, NForc3r_
[10:17] <cdiddy> it dial into #777 to gain access to the net
[10:17] <Spark420> Does linux recognize it at all?
[10:17] <jonty> roaf: thanks for responding - any suggestions who i should talk to about this?
[10:17] <Spark420> I'd be surprised TBH since Windows has never been to friendly with Linux.
[10:18] <cdiddy> it recognizes my flash drives -- even the u3 -- fine, but i tried getting it to recognize my treo and it did not
[10:18] <Quiz> who knows a chanel who helps with beryl?
[10:18] <livingdaylight> what is the next release code name of Ubuntu?  I heard it is Grumpy Gaucho
[10:18] <NForc3r_> im running steam and it starts up fine, everything is swell... i backed up my CS on my windows pc then put it on linux, its in a steambackup.exe format and keeps giving me an error
[10:18] <harry> cdiddy #777 you trying to use a sprint aircard?
[10:18] <NForc3r_> it keeps saying;
[10:18] <RAOF> !beryl > Quiz
[10:19] <cdiddy> harry: ubuntu just installed on my laptop ... can use the Phone As a modem in windows (treo 700wx), but am wondering of using it in Linux (ubuntu specifically)
[10:19] <cdiddy> I want to get rid of windows off my partition
[10:19] <NForc3r_> could not execute the external program  C:/valve/steam\Steam.exe
[10:19] <mdious> livingdaylight:  what is a Gaucho lol
[10:20] <huz__> is there support for Mobile Intel 915GM/GMS/910GML Express Chipset Family ?
[10:20] <mdious> cdiddy:  if you can get it to recognise the device...couldn't you just use it like any other modem?  Hope you sort it out!
[10:20] <huz__> because when i try to load with livecd it doesn't quiet work
[10:20] <harry> did you try searching google alot of ppl use sprint in linux im on a sprint aircard myself
[10:20] <NForc3r_> cli shows that Wine produced the error "err:exec:SHELL_ExecuteW cannot set directory L"C:\\PROG~FBU\\Steam\\Backups\\Disk_1\\c:/program files/steam""
[10:21] <Pconfigi> huz__ What kind of error did you get?
[10:21] <mdious> huz___:  I have 855GM...seems to work fine...would think later versions would still have support :(
[10:21] <NForc3r_> i cant run a seatmbackup
[10:21] <mdious> i'm off, cya's
[10:21] <huz__> Pconfigi, x just doesn't start with the live cd
[10:21] <cdiddy> harry: I will google it.
[10:21] <NForc3r_> ?
[10:22] <Whitefield> can someone help me?
[10:22] <NForc3r_> n e one
[10:22] <huz__> Pconfigi, i just wanted to make sure if there is support for that intel card before i went ahead and installed ubuntu :/
[10:22] <harry> yeah i had trouble in beginning with sprint aircard google saved the day
[10:22] <liquiddoom> !ask | <Whitefield>
[10:22] <Whitefield> I just installed ubuntu on a old v2310us compaq presario laptop, how do i get the built in wireless card to work.
[10:22] <Pconfigi> huz__, i've had that on a few computers too. They had pretty low RAM, like 128mb
[10:22] <harry> whats it do when you do plug it in though
[10:22] <Pconfigi> huz__, there should be. You can try using the alternate installer
[10:22] <NForc3r_> ??
[10:23] <cdiddy> one more pregunta ... anybody use evolution?
[10:23] <harry> i have
[10:23] <Whitefield> ive read that you need a 'wrapper' app to run windows drivers in linux, but im completely unfamiliar with the install process of linux. used to clicking .exes :)
[10:23] <harry> i dont much but i have
[10:23] <HowardTheCoward> Whitefield: i have to assume you've heard about ndiswrapper
[10:24] <harry> whitefield, you use ndiswrapper for wifi drivers
[10:24] <Whitefield> yes, thats it
[10:24] <huz__> Pconfigi, via live cd?
[10:24] <L0cKn> hi all :P
[10:24] <RAOF> !software > Whitefield <----------- Check out the PM from ubotu.  It's got a couple of good pages about installing stuff :)
[10:24] <Whitefield> i dont understand how to use it..sadly..
[10:24] <cdiddy> harry: do you have an exchange account or have used one before?? I am trying to get it to sync my contacts and calender with my exchange account, but it not working
[10:24] <oslo> hi
[10:24] <harry> nah no exchange
[10:24] <NForc3r_> ???
[10:24] <NForc3r_> come on just a wee bit of help here
[10:24] <cdiddy> google hasnt been very helpful
[10:24] <oslo> hi . "For Kernel 2.6 just load the ``usbnet.ko'' module into the kernel modprobe usbnet, it is already included." - How Can i do this ? DO you know ?
[10:24] <harry> cdiddy, when you plug in your phone does it show in dmesg at all
[10:24] <cdiddy> harry: let me try it one more time
[10:25] <harry> dmesg |grep usb
[10:25] <NForc3r_> ??
[10:25] <Pconfigi> huz__, you will need to download anohter cd. The alternate cd is a text based installer
[10:25] <huz__> Pconfigi, ok
[10:26] <harry> dont you just miss the days of console linux
[10:26] <harry> :)
[10:26] <Markstar> harry (since you seem to be the go-to guy here):
[10:26] <Markstar> I have downloaded the image from a trusted university server and it checks out fine. I really don't think it is the image. Here are my system specs:
[10:26] <Markstar> X2 3800+
[10:26] <Markstar> Asus A8V
[10:26] <Markstar> 1GB DDR
[10:26] <Markstar> SCSI-RAID-0 (Adaptec 2000S)
[10:26] <Markstar> Geforce 6800
[10:26] <Markstar> As I said before, I get to the startup screen from the installation and then I get a black screen with diagonal lines (consisting of many random dots).
[10:27] <imlostagain> Hey people! - Can anyone help me out (learn me how) to install java via the terminal? much apreciated.
[10:27] <imlostagain> I got a AMD64
[10:28] <huz__> Pconfigi, ok thank you
[10:28] <jc-denton> hi all
[10:28] <wols_> imlostagain: apt-get it
[10:28] <harry> markstar im not sure what the problem is with yours seems as if theres a problem with xorg and your video card which is unusual for geforce
[10:28] <KI4IKL> !info j2re-1.4
[10:28] <Pconfigi> huz__ yw ;)
[10:28] <wols_> imlostagain: are you running amd64 ubuntu?
[10:28] <ubotu> Package j2re-1.4 does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[10:28] <jc-denton> i have some very strange problemes on my kubuntu edgy box..
[10:28] <wols_> KI4IKL: no.
[10:28] <Pconfigi> imlostagain: sudo apt-get install sun-java6-jre sun-java6-plugin sun-java6-fonts
[10:28] <stefg> Markstar: is this trying to boot the CD, or trying to boot the system /after/ install?
[10:29] <NForc3r_> ok fine
[10:29] <jc-denton> for example when i try to install gedit-common
[10:29] <imlostagain> wols: im a bit unsure since i have this computer abandoned like 2 months. any way i can check if its ubuntu64 for sure?
[10:29] <harry> boot the cd i gather stef
[10:29] <jc-denton> it ends with the following error:  subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 127
[10:29] <Whitefield> im still at a loss guys, i have ndiswrapper-1.47 sitting on desktop in a folder, add/remove applications and i cant find it. did i need to leave it in the zip?
[10:30] <jc-denton> i tried using dpkg with -D2000 but it didn't give me any information about what went wrong
[10:30] <Danker> Could someone offer good video editor?
[10:30] <Flannel> Whitefield: you need it in a .deb
[10:30] <wols_> imlostagain: do what Pconfigi told you. if it can't find the packages and you have multiverse neabled it's amd64
[10:30] <harry> isnt there a pretty gui version of ndis wrapper now?
[10:30] <Flannel> Whitefield: and, add/remove won't find it.  Only if it's in a repos.  Just double click it.
[10:30] <wols_> imlostagain: also unam -a gives a strong hint
[10:30] <wols_> uname -a
[10:31] <jc-denton> so how can i run the post installation script
[10:31] <jc-denton> like sh -x or so
[10:31] <harry> shrug im lucky bcm43xx-fwcutter fixes me right up :)
[10:31] <Whitefield> how do i get it in .deb? as soon as I pull it out of the .gz its just a folder.
[10:31] <wols_> jc-denton: that is not the error. paste the full output
[10:32] <wols_> !ndiswrapper | Whitefield
[10:32] <ubotu> Whitefield: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[10:32] <SoftIce> hmm, is compiz & beryl merging or something, if so what is the package going to be called?
[10:32] <Flannel> SoftIce: they're now compiz.
[10:32] <wols_> Whitefield: it's in universe
[10:32] <harry> whitefield, open up your add/remove programs deal in the applications menu and search ndis its in there
[10:32] <SoftIce> Flannel: ahh, i see, and does Ubuntu have these packages in their source?
[10:33] <jc-denton> http://rafb.net/p/VVU6vy83.html
[10:33] <Frogzoo> !beryl
[10:33] <ubotu> beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment.   The merge was announced after Feisty was released, so no changes have happened yet.  Not sure about gutsy.  Gutsy too seems to have them separate.  I'm not sure if compiz/beryl have completed (or even started the majority of) the merge
[10:34] <jc-denton> harry: then fall over the cord and break something
[10:34] <Whitefield> gah this is way too complicated.
[10:34] <harry> yeah!
[10:34] <wols_> jc-denton: /var/lib/dpkg/info/gedit-common.postinst
[10:35] <SoftIce> Flannel: I see, so screenlets in feisty is actually called compiz?
[10:35] <harry> oh my i broke it down way easy for you whitefield
[10:35] <huz__> Pconfigi, you still about?
[10:35] <harry> add/remove programs search ndis!
[10:35] <Pconfigi> huz__ yes
[10:35] <Whitefield> I did.
[10:35] <Whitefield> i pulled it out of the .gz
[10:35] <bakert> Anyone running Ubuntu on a MacBook Pro?
[10:35] <Flannel> SoftIce: eh?  What?
[10:35] <Whitefield> its sitting on desktop in a folder
[10:35] <Whitefield> i cant find or add it manually
[10:35] <harry> Windows Wireless Drivers
[10:35] <huz__> Pconfigi, could you please direct me to the text based download locations
[10:35] <harry> install it and bingo your in
[10:35] <jc-denton> wols_: how do u know?
[10:35] <Flannel> Whitefield: You're not using that one, you're using the one in the repositories.
[10:36] <wols_> Whitefield: why do you must have ndiswrappre 1.4.7? we probably won't support it. ask the ndiswrapper folks. all we can support is the ndiswrapper you get from the repos
[10:36] <wols_> jc-denton: know what?
[10:36] <jc-denton> wols_: but i don't get an error when executing it manually
[10:36] <jc-denton> where the post installation script is
[10:36] <SoftIce> Flannel: i'll do a apt-cache show and have a look see
[10:36] <Pconfigi> huz__: Just go to http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/download and check the box 'Check here if you need the alternate desktop CD'
[10:36] <wols_> jc-denton: you are not supposed to do that. your sh -c idea was the right one.
[10:36] <imlostagain> wols_ and pconfigi: http://pastebin.com/932461 could you look over and see if it looks right?
[10:36] <harry> whitefield, do you have a broadcom chipset wireless?
[10:36] <wols_> jc-denton: cause all debconf scripts are there
[10:36] <Flannel> SoftIce: as far as Ubuntu is concerned (for feisty, and whoknows hwo gutsy will turn out), theyre still completely separate projects
[10:36] <Markstar> stefg: this is after trying to boot the CD (I want to install Ubunto) - no files have been copied yet.
[10:37] <harry> probably dont even need ndis
[10:37] <harry> heh
[10:37] <jc-denton> sh -x
[10:37] <SoftIce> Flannel: thanks
[10:37] <huz__> Pconfigi, ok thanks again
[10:37] <Whitefield> there are no 'windows wireless drivers', one person says i need a .geb, the other says just search it in add/remove, and i cant do either. i dont understand what repos is, i just installed ubuntu fresh.
[10:37] <SoftIce> Flannel: wonder how that will work with the upgrade, going to be alot of package removal/reinstallation i guess
[10:37] <harry> i wanna install ubunto too
[10:37] <Pconfigi> huz__ yw
[10:37] <wols_> unreal: yes it looks right
[10:38] <harry> whitefield, in a terminal type this in  sudo apt-get update
[10:38] <wols_> harry: then do it
[10:38] <Flannel> SoftIce: no.  When it eventually happens, there'll just be transitional packages.  It'll all work out more orless.  Well, except the config files, since I imagine they're quite different.
[10:38] <Pconfigi> imlostagain: Looks good
[10:38] <SoftIce> Flannel: true...
[10:38] <harry> whitefield, when thats done then search for it in the add/remove programs deal it should be there
[10:39] <wols_> Whitefield: your add/remove are the place where you install debs. and people who are new to ubuntu should use that for ALL their isntalls
[10:39] <harry> oh your no fun wols_
[10:39] <stefg> Markstar: looks like an IRQ conflict.  Raid setups require the alternate (text6-mode) installer. But to find out more about what's wrong try to boot in safe graphics mode and check if you get any reportable error message
[10:39] <jc-denton> wols_: i still don't get what you mean
[10:39] <imlostagain> what about that i should install some extra packages. sugested and recommended ones. Should i get those files?
[10:40] <wols_> Whitefield: and no you don't necessarily ned a wrapper. tell us what chip this card has first or we cannot help you. "lspvi -v". Paste the output of that in a pastebin
[10:40] <jc-denton> if i execute it manually it seems to work
[10:40] <BadRobot> i have a 3Com wireless card and it use to work when i connect to open wireless internet/network,but when i try to connect @ home i can't connect,I use WEP with password
[10:40] <wols_> jc-denton: edit the postist, run dpkg or apt again
[10:40] <jc-denton> if i execute it with dpkg it does not
[10:40] <harry> what in the world would ppl do if we still have to compile everything :)
[10:40] <harry> had*
[10:40] <wols_> jc-denton: dpkg -l gedit-commin. what are the first two letters?
[10:40] <Pconfigi> imlostagain: Why would you want extra packages?
[10:40] <wols_> harry: we'd all run gentoo
[10:40] <BadRobot> i can only use internet if i use wired  or open wireless,like those in caffes and shops
[10:40] <imlostagain> because the terminal suiggests so :)
 There's always gentoo if you want to see what it's like
[10:41] <jc-denton> wols_: it overwrites it before processing
[10:41] <jc-denton> wols_: iF
[10:41] <harry> Oh the glory days p233 slackware  make;make install on xfree86 go away for 12 hours and come back :)
[10:42] <wols_> jc-denton: jane apt-get shuldn't. neither should dpkg-reconfigure. but: I asked you to do something
[10:42] <wols_> s/jane/then
[10:42] <liquiddoom> gcc took like seven or eight days to emerge on my gentoo box once. That was... fun
[10:42] <wols_> Whitefield: I asled you to do something. please do it
[10:42] <jc-denton> wols_: dsee above
[10:42] <jc-denton> s/dsee/see
[10:42] <jane> i was wondering if jane was a new command o.O :p
[10:42] <harry> liquiddoom, i wasnt saying that i want to go back there just most of these folks have never been there :)
[10:42] <Pconfigi> imlostagain: You can install them, but it's not really necessarily
 I know, I was joking. I came from gentoo
[10:43] <wols_> jc-denton: I still asked you something. come back when you can answer it
[10:43] <harry> anyway i need to go put a foot up someones ass so theyll start unloading my truck soi can go to sleep
[10:44] <imlostagain> pconfigi: I guess its not important.
[10:44] <jc-denton> 10:41 < wols_> jc-denton: dpkg -l gedit-commin. what are the first two letters?
[10:44] <jc-denton> 10:42 < jc-denton> wols_: iF
[10:44] <jc-denton> now it's ii
[10:44] <wols_> jc-denton: ok. that means it's not configured right
[10:44] <jc-denton> but i tink every package has this problem
[10:44] <wols_> ok. ii is good. it means it's fully installed. problem solved
[10:45] <wols_> then install the next one and use sh-x
[10:45] <wols_> jc-denton: what ubuntu are you running, and to what ubuntu are you upgrading ?
[10:45] <jc-denton> edgy
[10:45] <jc-denton> to nothing
[10:45] <jc-denton> i just wanted to install it
[10:45] <wols_> aptitude update; aptitude dist-upgrade
[10:46] <wols_> or could be something like debconf is out of whack in your install
[10:47] <stefg> any suggestions on what to use to transfer files between my laptop and desktop.machine? i run samba on the desktop and fusesmb on the laptop atm, but i get speeds not exceeding 3MB/s. That's a bit time consuming. Tried nautilus' ssh file transfer as well, equally slow ... ideas?
[10:47] <wols_> jc-denton: btw why do you run as root. this is not supported
[10:47] <HowardTheCoward> stefg: rsync maybe
[10:47] <wols_> stefg: wzy can't you use samba and smbfs?
[10:48] <HowardTheCoward> especially if you'll be doing it on a regular basis
[10:48] <wols_> stefg: why fuse?
[10:48] <madrid31____> katai he vuelto
[10:48] <madrid31____> :(
[10:48] <Flannel> !es | madrid31____
[10:48] <ubotu> madrid31____: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[10:48] <jc-denton> wols_: well i'm not sure where the problems come from
[10:48] <jc-denton> i think i just backup the stuff and install feisty
[10:48] <stefg> HowardTheCoward: nice idea, is there something like rsyncfs you know of ?(to integrate it into the filesystem)
[10:48] <wols_> jc-denton: why not upgrade?
[10:49] <jc-denton> because it's already broken
[10:49] <jc-denton> wols_: well thx for trying to help
[10:49] <HowardTheCoward> stefg: i don't know about it, but automating things like this is not my style, so do a google search
[10:49] <stefg> wols_: smb is slllooowwwww.... and smbfs is troublesome, because the desktop isn't on 24/7 so iget boot delays when i start the lappie and the desktop (server) isn't running
[10:49] <wols_> stefg: http://www.rsync.net/resources/howto/linux_sshfs.html not really: useus sshfs via fuse
[10:50] <wols_> stefg: how fast is your wlan?
[10:50] <stefg> wols_: 100 Mbit copper
[10:50] <wols_> stefg: fuse certainly won't make it faster
[10:50] <BadRobot> 2 M/bits
[10:51] <wols_> stefg: then3 the 3MB/s is the fault of fuse only. samba reaches about 8-10MB/s depending on NIC quality
[10:51] <Markstar> stefg: thank you, I will look into that text6-mode (and the other stuff)
[10:51] <stefg> HowardTheCoward: this rsync-link looks promising
[10:51] <stefg> !alternate |  Markstar
[10:52] <wols_> stefg: how fast is a ftp connection? that can be used via fuse too
[10:52] <wols_> usually faster than samba
[10:52] <ubotu> Markstar: The Alternate CD (available as of Dapper) is the classical text-mode installation CD. Use it if you wish to upgrade via CD, or for an "expert" mode install. For normal installs, use the Desktop CD, which is also a "Live" CD - See also !Minimal
[10:52] <h4ngedm4n> df
[10:52] <h4ngedm4n> mt sry
[10:52] <QwertyM> What's the command for making the computer beep?
[10:53] <nimbo> echo -e "\07" or so
[10:53] <harry> are you that bored you wanna make your computer beep?
[10:53] <Pconfigi> lol
[10:53] <nimbo> echo -e "\x07" or so
[10:53] <livingdaylight> Guys: I am hoping someone can help me with wireless issue here.
[10:53] <livingdaylight>  I was running wireless fantastic on my feisty box... but when i upgrade to ubuntustudio by adding the repos.. it broke my wireless and now i don't know how to enable it
[10:53] <stefg> wols_: ftp is ruled out, because there is no real server-client role model.  Sometimes i want to pull files from the laptop while sitting on the desktop, sometimes vice versa. So both machines are client and server at the same time
[10:54] <QwertyM> lol no, just as a buddy pounce notification instead of finding an audio file for it
[10:54] <QwertyM> thank you :)
[10:54] <livingdaylight> iwconfig wlan0 essid linksys key *********** mode managed this was my command to connect to wireless using wlan0 and now it says it doesn't exist
 ...sftp?
[10:54] <livingdaylight> Error for wireless request "Set ESSID" (8B1A) :  SET failed on device wlan0 ; No such device
[10:54] <nimbo> livingdaylight: what does iwconfig say
[10:55] <BadRobot> i am getting this same error
[10:55] <BadRobot> i've tried everything
[10:56] <BadRobot> it keeps trying to connect onto my wireless network but it doesn't succeed
[10:56] <livingdaylight> nimbo, output: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26378/
[10:57] <Markstar> ubotu: Hmm, since I am a complete newbie when it comes to Ubuntu, I don't think a text-mode installation is right for me atm.
[10:57] <Markstar> I really had hoped that at least the installation would go a little smother. :(
[10:57] <livingdaylight> nimbo, i never had the vmnet1 and vmnet8 before... ubutustudio broke my wirelss with their hacked kernel
[10:57] <nimbo> livingdaylight: what is ubuntustudio
[10:58] <livingdaylight> nimbo, i thought it was ubuntu+multimedia package + look
[10:58] <Flannel> Markstar: textmode installation is the same questions, only with a terminal GUI instead of a 'real' GUI
[10:58] <livingdaylight> nimbo, http://www.ubuntustudio.org/
[10:58] <Robert> I need help setting my video card properly can someone help me
[10:59] <Pconfigi> Markstar, first of all, ubotu is a bot :D, second, the text based installer isn't hard. It's actually just seleting the same options as in the gui except for the fact that you need to select it with your keyboard
[10:59] <HowardTheCoward> Markstar: a gui-mode installation is more complicated because to all the issues it adds the issues you could have with your video card
[10:59] <livingdaylight> nimbo, one can add ubuntustudio repos to source.list and add ubuntustudio to desktop that way, which is how i did it, but it broke my wireless in the process
[10:59] <Robert> i have a Nvidia TNT2 4x AGP, i cant the legacy drivers to load GLX or Open GL
[11:00] <Robert> i dont know whats wrong, can some one help me out please
[11:00] <nimbo> livingdaylight: does it modify the kernel?
[11:00] <wols_> Robert: error messages are not there for your amusement. they are an intgral part of problem reporting
[11:00] <livingdaylight> nimbo, precisely
[11:00] <wols_> nimbo: it comes with a different kernel
[11:00] <Robert> i dont get error messages
[11:00] <nimbo> well, that is the problem then
[11:00] <stefg> robert: this card won't support glx, no Pixelshader 1.1
[11:01] <wols_> Robert: check your /var/log/xorg.log
[11:01] <livingdaylight> nimbo, lol, i know but can it be fixed?
[11:01] <Robert> are you sure ?
[11:01] <nimbo> hm ... well i dunno if there is an easy way
[11:01] <nimbo> get the kernel sources, recompile it with your wifi-drivers and there you go
[11:01] <livingdaylight> nimbo, i don't mind as long as there is a way...
[11:02] <livingdaylight> nimbo, lol...yea, right..... i can just about switch a computer on dude
[11:02] <nimbo> hm too bad ^^
[11:02] <nimbo> then send a bug report @ubuntustudio or so
[11:02] <wols_> livingdaylight: vmnet is part of vmware, they interfaces. also: what wireless card? andytime you install a new kernel you need to compile your wireless drivers again usually or install them again for this kernel
[11:02] <livingdaylight> nimbo, is this a regular thing everyone can do... recompile kernels with wifi drivers???
[11:02] <nimbo> ehm ... well
[11:02] <wols_> nimbo: it's not necssarily a bug. what wlan chip?
[11:03] <nimbo> ask livingdaylight
[11:03] <wols_> livingdaylight: no kernel recompile needed
[11:03] <livingdaylight> wols_,  not sure on the card
[11:03] <wols_> livingdaylight: lspci
[11:03] <livingdaylight> wolki, i'm glad to hear it
[11:03] <livingdaylight> wols_, Network controller: Texas Instruments ACX 100 22Mbps Wireless Interface
[11:04] <Volta2056> i foolishly installed automatix
[11:04] <Volta2056> how do i uninstall a program that came with it
[11:04] <Volta2056> using the terminal?
[11:04] <livingdaylight> wols_, i trust that is the one :/
[11:04] <wols_> !automatix
[11:04] <ubotu> Automatix2 is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[11:04] <stefg> Volta2056: #automatix
[11:05] <wols_> livingdaylight: yes that's it
[11:05] <N0xTrUm> hi! :)
[11:05] <Volta2056> ubotu_check that room?
[11:05] <livingdaylight> wols_, here is the whole output otherwise: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26379/
[11:06] <wols_> livingdaylight: how did this work before?
[11:06] <wols_> no. the acx100 is your wlan chip
[11:06] <Robert> no pixel shader OK, but i do get Open GL
[11:06] <wols_> livingdaylight: did you have to install something?
[11:06] <wols_> Robert: software oepngl. mesa
[11:06] <Robert> and that dosent seem to load
[11:06] <livingdaylight> wols_, iwconfig wlan0 essid linksys key *********** mode managed this was my command to connect to wireless using wlan0 and now it says it doesn't exist
[11:07] <wols_> the old kernel had the acx module compiled in, the new one doesn't
[11:07] <livingdaylight> wols_, folled by dhclient wlan0
[11:07] <livingdaylight> wols_, but now i get: Error for wireless request "Set ESSID" (8B1A) :  SET failed on device wlan0 ; No such device
[11:07] <wols_> which is kinda strange since the firmware for acx is not redistributable which means ubunut violates the GPL shipping it
[11:07] <BadRobot> Automatix2 works fine on my pc,i guess Ubotu doesn't know what he says or it just trying to make people confused,upset and other above ,plus something else
[11:07] <Yogi--> livingdaylight ifconfig wlan0 up
[11:07] <Gerrit> When I tried to login on kdm this morning, my screen went blank and X would restart, and I would get back the login screen. It was resolved when I removed (renamed) my .xsession. There are two xmodmap-commands in my .xsession. Neither .xsession-errors nor /var/log/Xorg.0.log lists any errors. Where else can I look for errors caused by my two xmodmap-commands in .xsession? (they were: xmodmad /etc/xmodmap.conf; xmodmap -e 'keysym Menu = Multi_key')
[11:07] <livingdaylight> Yogi--, in root?
[11:08] <Yogi--> livingdaylight yes
[11:08] <Robert> there is a forum http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=2833475
[11:08] <Volta2056> badrobot_how do i use the terminal to uninstall innotek VIrtual Box
[11:08] <Robert> which saids about it can some one help
[11:08] <wols_> BadRobot: no it does know what it says. automatix will usually hose your system come upgade
[11:08] <Markstar> HowardThe Coward: I realize a GUI based install can cause more problems. My comment (about hoping things to go smoother) was more about the situation of Linux as a whole - you just can't expect the normal user to go through all that trouble. Thus, I fear MS will stick around for quite some time.
[11:09] <BadRobot> Ubotu if you are that smart bot as you think,just get my problem solved out ,otherwise stick you conclusions on you damm @....censuded
[11:09] <Robert> anyone ?
[11:09] <Flannel> !worksforme | BadRobot
[11:09] <ubotu> BadRobot: Common Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should (and especially recommend to others). Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability.
[11:09] <livingdaylight> Yogi--, ifconfig wlan0 up     -     wlan0: ERROR while getting interface flags: No such device
[11:09] <BadRobot> censured
[11:09] <wols_> Markstar: you have never eve seen the text installer but criticize it. not exactly an informed attitude. a normal use will only notice that there is no mouse support and that he has to use the cursorkeys instead. that's all
[11:09] <Yogi--> livingdaylight unpug and then plugin your wireless and try again
[11:09] <Felarin> !cool | Flannel
[11:09] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about cool - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:09] <Yogi--> unplug*
[11:10] <tonsofpcs> anyone know how I can install jahshaka [feisty fawn] , trying to run the script it says to download [its called jahshaka-dapper-x86.sh, but I'd assume it would work in feisty] , but it has an error apparently?
[11:10] <bullgard4> The file /etc/pam.d/common-password contains the line "password required pam_unix.so nullok obscure min=4 max=8 md5." Does this mean that there are only maximally 8 characters relevant when forming the md5 sum of a password?
[11:10] <barata> what is the most pirated software in Linux?
[11:10] <Volta2056> so badrobot, do you know the package name for innotek Virtual Box
[11:10] <barata> I wonder
[11:10] <Flannel> !fixres | Robert
[11:10] <barata> zend maybe?
[11:10] <ubotu> Robert: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[11:10] <Flannel> Robert: have you tried that?
[11:10] <Felarin> barata : it's called pirates of the caribbean
[11:10] <barata> the movie?
[11:10] <Volta2056> here's one for the bot
[11:10] <barata> probably heih
[11:11] <BadRobot> Ubotu stick with what i told you and and stop annoying me,i've been in here 1 and hour trying to solve my wireless problems.so please if you can't help don't disturb either
[11:12] <Volta2056> my external hard drive cannot be mounted
[11:12] <sybariten> neither could mine
[11:12] <wols_> Volta2056: error messages are not optional
[11:12] <Flannel> !wifi | BadRobot
[11:12] <wols_> BadRobot: ubotu is a BOT. and you are making an ass out of yourself right now
[11:12] <ubotu> BadRobot: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[11:12] <BadRobot> i know he is a bot
[11:12] <Volta2056> Flannel, any ideas on how to get my external HD to read write?
[11:13] <wols_> BadRobot: i8st fyi. WEP is useless
[11:13] <wols_> BadRobot: either use WPA or nothing at all
[11:13] <Flannel> Volta2056: what kind of partition is it?
[11:13] <BadRobot> Maybe it is
[11:13] <Volta2056> NTFS, i've installed ntfs config tool
[11:13] <Volta2056> i've tried the instructions on the terminal
[11:13] <wols_> and alst but not leeast, you haven't even told us what the error is
[11:14] <dimebar> anyone have any idea why in rhythmbox when I import my music lots of tags aren't there but they appear to be in quodlibet/exfalso (both id3v1 and 2).
[11:14] <BadRobot> But isn't my internet,it is from my father-in-law,he is a old and scared old men
[11:14] <Volta2056> i've tried editing the ftsb file, which you can't
[11:14] <theunixgeek> In Anjuta IDE, it says I need "glib" - how do I get that? I tried Synaptic, but no luck/
[11:14] <BadRobot> he has tried Ubuntu for 2 hours and gived it up because he isn't that open minded as he told
[11:14] <danutz> good after noon... or good morning
[11:14] <Volta2056> ot
[11:14] <Volta2056> ot
[11:15] <wols_> Volta2056: you need to edit it as root. sudo
[11:15] <Volta2056> it's all relative, badrobot
[11:15] <BadRobot> so now he is stuck with Vista and not of his programs doesn't work
[11:15] <Volta2056> can you explain just a bit more
[11:15] <Robert> hello
[11:15] <gordonjcp> BadRobot: my Mum's been using Ubuntu for about six months now
[11:15] <Volta2056> i knew i needed to go from root
[11:15] <bluebanana> I'm trying to get sounds on Wolfenstein: Enemy Territory. I was told to run this command as root: echo "et.x86 0 0 direct" > /proc/asound/card0/pcm0p/oss. I did but i get error message bash: /proc/asound/card0/pcm0p/oss: Permission denied. What's wrong?
[11:15] <gordonjcp> BadRobot: she's not having any problems at all
[11:15] <Robert> the problem is not the resolution its enabling Open GL
[11:15] <gordonjcp> bluebanana: you're probably not doing it as root
[11:15] <Volta2056> that was for wols
[11:15] <gordonjcp> bluebanana: you shouldn't need to do that anyway
[11:15] <wols_> theunixgeek: libglib2.0-dev
[11:15] <bluebanana> goban, how do i do it as root?
[11:16] <theunixgeek> wols_: Thank you.
[11:16] <Gerrit> What's typical power consumption when I suspend to RAM?
[11:16] <bluebanana> gordonjcp, what should i do then?
[11:16] <BadRobot> my wife and sisters in law are now using Linux too,just because i did it for them
[11:16] <gordonjcp> bluebanana: well, are you getting sound from ET or not
[11:16] <wols_> bluebanana: you are not root?
[11:16] <bluebanana> you play W:ET, to?
[11:16] <danutz> the questoin should be: <<how do i become a root?>>
[11:16] <gordonjcp> bluebanana: eys
[11:16] <gordonjcp> yes even
[11:16] <wols_> bluebanana: sudo
[11:16] <bluebanana> gordonjcp, no. no sound
[11:16] <BadRobot> but my father-in-law is very ungry @ me because of that
[11:16] <gordonjcp> bluebanana: ok, well that's worth a shot - as wols_ said, use sudo to run the command as root
[11:16] <danutz> because i can't work, under the terminal... as root
[11:16] <Pconfigi> BadRobot, why?
[11:16] <bluebanana> wols_, that's what i did ( sudo echo "et.x86 0 0 direct" > /proc/asound/card0/pcm0p/oss), but it says permission denied
[11:17] <gordonjcp> bluebanana: I'm willing to bet that something else is holding onto your sound card though
[11:17] <wols_> Volta2056:you still haven't answererd my first question about your hdd problem
[11:17] <Volta2056> i did, it's ntfs
[11:17] <Volta2056> if that's what you were asking
[11:17] <bluebanana> gordonjcp, what's eys?
[11:17] <Volta2056> sorry
[11:17] <wols_> Volta2056: I weren't asking tht
[11:17] <Volta2056> sorry
[11:17] <bluebanana> wols_,  i ran the sudo command, but it doesn't work
[11:17] <gordonjcp> bluebanana: a typo for "yes"
[11:18] <gordonjcp> brought on by lack of caffeine ;-)
[11:18] <bluebanana> gordonjcp, how come my sudo command doesn't work? It says permission denied?
[11:18] <wols_> Volta2056: google smart questions and follow it
[11:18] <bluebanana> ...typo: denied? --> denied.
[11:18] <Yogi--> bluebanana he he ... just type su then enter your password and then echo "et.x86 0 0 direct" > /proc/asound/card0/pcm0p/oss
[11:18] <wols_> bluebanana: sudo ifconfig. does this work?
[11:18] <gordonjcp> bluebanana: aha, try doing sudo su to get a root shell, and running the command
[11:18] <wols_> gordonjcp: no
[11:18] <gordonjcp> wols_: yes
[11:18] <bluebanana> wols_, yes. sudo ifconfig works
[11:19] <wols_> !root > gordonjcp
[11:19] <superman123> hello
[11:19] <wols_> bluebanana: you are not supposed to run et as root btw
[11:19] <superman123> hello
[11:19] <gordonjcp> wols_: because, if you try to redirect an echo the echo command is run as root but the redirect is not
[11:19] <bluebanana> gordonjcp, ok. i did sudo su first then the command, and it worked.
[11:19] <wols_> gordonjcp: sudo -c
[11:19] <bluebanana> that's interestning
[11:20] <gordonjcp> wols_: that works too
[11:20] <wols_> gordonjcp: NOT becoming root
[11:20] <bluebanana> wols_, i am not running the game as root
[11:20] <wols_> gordonjcp: you are in #ubuntu. please respect the distro by doing it things the ubuntu way. if you want to do it another way, don't advice people
[11:20] <gordonjcp> wols_: sudo -c wouldn't have the right effect
[11:20] <bluebanana> I still do not have sound in Wolf: ET.
[11:20] <BadRobot> who?
[11:21] <gordonjcp> bluebanana: is something else trying to use the sound device?
[11:21] <superman123> I want to know if there is any operating system like windows media centre with ubuntu?
[11:21] <wols_> gordonjcp: also if you really want people to be root, use sudo -i
[11:21] <superman123> I want to know if there is any operating system like windows media centre with ubuntu?
[11:21] <bluebanana> gordonjcp, how can i find out if something else is trying to use sound device?
[11:21] <superman123> I want to know if there is any operating system like windows media centre with ubuntu?
[11:21] <wols_> superman123: mythtv, freevo, etc. dunno if any of those is in ubuntu repos tho
[11:21] <gordonjcp> wols_: you don't seem to have got the subtle implications of sudo and redirects or pipes
[11:22] <Flannel> Yogi--, gordonjcp, bluebanana, echo "stuff" | sudo tee [-a]  file
[11:22] <Flannel> -a is for append, depending on > or >>
[11:22] <wols_> gordonjcp: I didn't see the echo first, my mistake. and it doesn't change the fact: you don#t seem to respect the way ubuntu does things
[11:22] <gordonjcp> Flannel: good
[11:22] <bluebanana> Flannel, i did that echo command. now what
[11:22] <gordonjcp> wols_: sudo -i gives you a full root shell, with paths down /sbin and /usr/sbin - which may not be what you want
[11:22] <wols_> gordonjcp: I don't like sudo either, but I won't tell people to su
[11:22] <BadRobot> I'm using Ubuntustudio,but because my wife and her sisters are the noobiest i've seen i have installed to them LinuxMint(a derived Linux edition from Ubuntu),so i am not advising anyone about other distros  -gordonjcp-
[11:23] <Gerrit> superman123: there is
[11:23] <wols_> I know what sudo -i does.
[11:23] <gordonjcp> wols_: in any case, Flannel's solution is probably the best of the lot ;-)
[11:23] <gordonjcp> BadRobot: I haven't seen LinuxMint, any good?
[11:23] <bluebanana> Flannel, what was the purpose of "echo "stuff" | sudo tee [-a]  file"?
[11:23] <livingdaylight> Yogi--, i've shutdown, taken out and put back in wireless card... rebooted and in root done, ifconfig walan0 up .Again with wlan0: ERROR while getting interface flags: No such device
[11:24] <bluebanana> I still do not have sound in enemy territory, gordonjcp
[11:24] <tonsofpcs> lspci
[11:24] <gordonjcp> bluebanana: the "tee" part runs as root, allowing it to write to files you don't normally have access to
[11:24] <HowardTheCoward> livingdaylight: there is iwconfig for wireless cards
[11:24] <Flannel> bluebanana: that's the proper method.  Instead of the sudo echo >> file (with perm denied)
[11:24] <bluebanana> oh
[11:24] <bluebanana> how can i figure out if some other program is using the sound device?
[11:24] <superman123> Gerrit> what is it called?
[11:24] <livingdaylight> HowardTheCoward, if you can get this to connec that would be great
[11:24] <Flannel> "tee" is >, "tee -a" is >>
[11:24] <wols_> bluebanana: are oss emulation loaded in alsa?
[11:25] <peter_> hi, is there a way to block single apps in a firewall in ubuntu/linux ??
[11:25] <wols_> bluebanana: lsof /dev/dsp
[11:25] <BadRobot> Yep,it comes with everything out of the box,i think it is a very sexy Linux distro.My think is suits better to girl's.www.linuxmint.com or www.distrowatch
[11:25] <tonsofpcs> peter_: you could just prevent the app from running
[11:25] <BadRobot> gordonjcp
[11:25] <HowardTheCoward> peter_: this is windows idiocy, firewalls work with ip addresses and ports
[11:25] <livingdaylight> HowardTheCoward, this is how i used to get my wireless connection: root@Dune:~# iwconfig wlan0 essid linksys key ********** mode managed
[11:25] <bluebanana> wols: i did lsof /dev/dsp but nothing happened
[11:25] <peter_> ok, thx :)
[11:25] <wols_> peter_: there is a mark for it, but you must learn how to use iptables. and I'm not 100% sure it's in default iptables. might even need a netfilter patch
[11:26] <Roshan> My first post on ubuntu channel
[11:26] <bluebanana> wols_, how do i know the answer to your question "Are oss emulation loaded in alsa?"?
[11:26] <mwe> wep encryption is a joke
[11:26] <wols_> blenderhead001: then nothing is using it. does oss itself work?
[11:26] <wols_> lsmod |grep oss
[11:26] <livingdaylight> HowardTheCoward, that was in feisty, but since i added the ubuntustudio with their modified kernel i get this error: Error for wireless request "Set ESSID" (8B1A) :
[11:26] <livingdaylight>     SET failed on device wlan0 ; No such device.
[11:26] <Roshan> need help with evolution. sending of email doesn't work for some reason
[11:26] <Kprofthreat> Can anyone assist me with installing ndiswrapper? I'm using Kubuntu Feisty Fawn. I already know how to install my drivers, but the problem right now is ndiswrapper. BTW, I CANNOT use apt-get cause my comp doesn't have LAN ports. Anyway, here's a pastebin http://www.pastebin.ca/578471
[11:26] <wols_> mwe: he has no influence of ther the AP
[11:26] <mwe> I see
[11:26] <stefg> wols_: FYI, played with sftp and instantly get 6 MB/s using nautilus' sftp client. nice :-) and i'll blame the router for being a piece of crap for the rest of the slowness
[11:27] <HowardTheCoward> livingdaylight: i don't know then, i was just throwing two cents
[11:27] <livingdaylight> HowardTheCoward, i've also tried Yogi--  recommendation of ifconfig wlan0 up to get it up
[11:27] <Volta2056> wols_i'm trying to edit root.sudo in the terminal, i've searched the community and wiki and can't find what you're trying to direct me to
[11:27] <livingdaylight> HowardTheCoward, i need at least a dime my way
[11:27] <wols_> BadRobot: learn how to crack WEP (there are pretty much automated tools). then tell your in-law to set a new password and immediately crack it in a few minutes. try it witht he current password first for training when he's not there
[11:27] <wols_> BadRobot: showing him how easy anyone can crack it. then tell him to use WPA-PSK
[11:27] <livingdaylight> wols_, back to you... :p... Any chance of getting me hooked up again?
[11:28] <BadRobot> ok
[11:28] <bluebanana> wols_, report of lsmod | grep oss is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26380/
[11:28] <wols_> livingdaylight: is there a acx kernel module anywhere for your kernel?
[11:28] <BadRobot> from where do i get it ?wols
[11:28] <qudama> I used NEC notebook but the sound doesn't work, anyone can help me please?:'(
[11:28] <livingdaylight> wols_, i dunno amigo
[11:29] <qudama> I used NEC notebook with ubuntu OS but the sound doesn't work, anyone can help me please?:'(
[11:29] <stefg> !doesn'twork | qudama
[11:29] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about doesn'twork - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:29] <stefg> !doesntwork | qudama
[11:29] <ubotu> qudama: Doesn't work is a strong statement. Does it sit on the couch all day? Does it want more money? Is it on IRC all the time? Please be specific! Examples of what doesn't work tend to help too.
[11:30] <stefg> !sound | qudama
[11:30] <ubotu> qudama: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[11:30] <BadRobot> does anyone in here uses ASUS A6000 laptop?
[11:30] <qudama> no sound at all
[11:30] <qudama> soundless
[11:30] <wols_> livingdaylight: then find out
[11:30] <BadRobot> I am trying to install Ubuntustudio  on my friends lappy,but it won't boot the DVD
[11:30] <livingdaylight> is there a wireless guru in here who might be able to help me?
[11:31] <qudama>  ubotu: thnx
[11:31] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about thnx - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:31] <wols_> !ubuntustudio
[11:31] <ubotu> ubuntustudio is a site for the artist who wishes to use Ubuntu as their Digital Audio Workstation. It contains all the best parts of Audio/Graphical/Visual components from the Ubuntu repositories, and extra! Available at http://www.ubuntustudio.com. Or visit #ubuntustudio.
[11:31] <kismet> i want to download the new ubuntu iso, what software should i possibly use? my connection isn't as stable
[11:31] <mwe> livingdaylight: ask your question and find out ;)
[11:31] <livingdaylight> wols_, amigo... just tell me how... coz i do'nt even know what you're talking about
[11:31] <Kprofthreat> Can anyone assist me with installing ndiswrapper? I'm using Kubuntu Feisty Fawn. I already know how to install my drivers, but the problem right now is ndiswrapper. BTW, I CANNOT use apt-get cause my comp doesn't have LAN ports. Anyway, here's a pastebin http://www.pastebin.ca/578471
[11:31] <BadRobot> Shut it up Ubotu
[11:31] <livingdaylight> mwe, dude... i have if you had read my posts prior to this
[11:31] <HowardTheCoward> kismet: obviously, it deppends of the protocol you'll be using
[11:31] <livingdaylight> mwe, scroll up and then scroll up some more
[11:31] <BadRobot> Stop con fussing people
[11:31] <bluebanana> does it take forever to download maps in Wolf: ET?
[11:31] <qudama> ubotu: thanks a lot boss:)
[11:31] <kismet> HowardTheCoward, what do you recommend?
[11:32] <mwe> livingdaylight: easy ;)
[11:32] <thyko> hey, Ubotu knows stuff
[11:32] <stefg> qudama: see ubotus link first, then find out which hardware you have (NEC notebook is too general). 'lspci 'gives a listing of your internal hardware
[11:32] <bluebanana> gordonjcp,  report of lsmod | grep oss is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26380/
[11:32] <HowardTheCoward> kismet: wget usually does the job, unless you're downloading a torrent
[11:32] <gordonjcp> bluebanana: you have oss emulation
[11:32] <gordonjcp> do you have any sound working at all?
[11:33] <bluebanana> gordonjcp, yes, i have sound everywhere else
[11:33] <bluebanana> (firefox, rythymbox, etc)
[11:33] <kismet> HowardTheCoward, its been very unstable i tried wget first
[11:33] <gordonjcp> bluebanana: close everything except a terminal, and run et from the terminal
[11:33] <HowardTheCoward> kismet: what do you mean by unstable?
[11:33] <wols_> livingdaylight: find /lib/modules/`uname -r`|grep acx
[11:33] <bluebanana> I downloaded FPS game called sauerbraten_unix (aka cube?), I did the extract of it, but i get a blackscreen for 3 seconds then I go back to GUI. help
[11:33] <gordonjcp> bluebanana: everything everything, even stuff like rhythmbox in the taskbar
[11:34] <varka> !botsnack
[11:34] <ubotu> Yum! Err, I mean, APT!
[11:34] <gordonjcp> bluebanana: oooo, sauerbraten, I used to play Cube a lot
[11:34] <Roshan> guys, please help me with this smtp not working with evolution in ubuntu feisty
[11:34] <bluebanana> gordonjcp, how do i close everything but terminal
[11:34] <gordonjcp> bluebanana: just close down all the apps that are running
[11:34] <wols_> Roshan: describe your error properly
[11:34] <gordonjcp> oh, well except your IRC client ;-)
[11:34] <BadRobot> use swiftfox(aka Firefox 3) is much fast and much better the firefox
[11:34] <Roshan> wols_: no error
[11:35] <kismet> HowardTheCoward, the speeds are not stable, high and low
[11:35] <bluebanana> ok. i'll try it now
[11:35] <wols_> BadRobot: swiftfox is not ffox 3. it's also not in ubuntu
[11:35] <bionoid> bluebanana: init 1
[11:35] <Volta2056> u said i need to edit the ntfs external drive from the root.sudo and i never saw any other question other than 'error messages are not optional'
[11:35] <liquiddoom> Swiftfox is actually a processor-optomized build of ff2
[11:35] <tonsofpcs> can someone tell me why the jahshaka install script won't work?   ( http://www.jahshaka.org/component/option,com_docman/task,doc_download/gid,77/Itemid,49/ )
[11:35] <erUSUL> BadRobot: swiftfox is not ff 3 is just ff recompiled
[11:35] <Volta2056> wols
[11:35] <wols_> Roshan: there are errors. you just didn't look in the right places. check /var/log/syslog.1.gz
[11:35] <theunixgeek> How do I type in Pinyin under Ubuntu? (Pinyin, by the way, is Romanization of Chinese characters - and I'd like an alternative to scim)
[11:35] <BadRobot> you can install it on ubuntu
[11:35] <wols_> Roshan: there are errors. you just didn't look in the right places. check /var/log/syslog
[11:35] <varka> BadRobot: first, swiftfox is not firefox 3 and second, the speedadvantage is marginal
[11:35] <HowardTheCoward> kismet: oh well, that has absolutely nothing to do with the particular program you are using for downloading
[11:35] <Roshan> the upon pressing send-receive button, the pop up window comes up and the receiving is done but sending is not happening and email stays in outbox
[11:35] <livingdaylight> wols http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26382/
[11:35] <wols_> Volta2056: yes. you get an error message you haven't told us. I also told you to read smart questins and follow its advice
[11:36] <BadRobot> on my lappy is much better the firefox,but not as good as Opera
[11:36] <kismet> HowardTheCoward, changed mirrors a dozen of times, finally getting decent speeds of Germany, thanks.
[11:36] <stefg> theunixgeek: #ubuntu-cn ?
[11:36] <wols_> livingdaylight: sudo modprobe acx then try to connect the wireless again
[11:36] <HowardTheCoward> kismet: really, it's only about the mirror and about your ISP
[11:36] <Volta2056> wols_let me retype the error msg
[11:36] <theunixgeek> stefg: haha. I don't speak chinese fluently. ;) I'm still studying it
[11:36] <thyko> !packages