[03:18] <genii> rivanov linux unix and so on. "*nix" is generally used to describe all of the distributions which behave in a unix-like manner
[03:18] <stars> oo i had that before Lazergunz lemme think
[03:19] <keith_> ok it works
[03:19] <Lazergunz> stars: :) sure thing.
[03:19] <keith_> i mean how do i turn up the antilailasing
[03:19] <raven3x7> keith_, have you even installed fglrx?
[03:19] <eck> Lazergunz: that is provided by build-essential
[03:19] <Joeeigel> Can some1 help me?
[03:19] <eck> it is the linker
[03:19] <keith_> yes
[03:19] <keith_> i just need to turn up the settings
[03:19] <keith_> like the antialaising
[03:19] <rivanov> genii: so what would a good starting point be in the OS? kernel? Gnome? Firefox? I mean I really do'nt know too much about the system APIs; I just need some solid code to look at, run, debug, and play with
[03:19] <Lazergunz> eck: By what now :P
[03:19] <stars> Lazergunz try: sudo apt-get -f install
[03:19] <Joeeigel> im having a problem burning the .iso to the CD
[03:19] <Seveas> eck, 'vesa' still uses the video card but only the most basic functions that worked since the early 90s
[03:19] <keith_> how do i do that
[03:19] <eck> Lazergunz: install the build-essential package
[03:20] <stars> ah eck to the rescue lol
[03:20] <eck> Seveas: i see
[03:20] <meezyfuh> hey, i just want to say that ubuntu installed flawlessly on my laptop, and it's so BEAUTIFUL and easy to use! i love iT!!!!
[03:20] <Jarhead756> within irssi, can i remove the blue bar at the top of the terminal window?
[03:20] <keith_> how do i turn up the antialaising
[03:20] <Jarhead756> meezyfuh: have you got mp3 and other codecs working?
[03:20] <keith_> its not as clear as it was on windows
[03:20] <bayziders> MemTotal:       514816 kB
[03:20] <bayziders>  means i have 514mbs of ram?
[03:20] <Seveas> no
[03:21] <detectiveinspekt> rhythmbox doesn't play mp3s
[03:21] <eck> bayziders: check your math :-)
[03:21] <Seveas> 514816/1024
[03:21] <detectiveinspekt> help
[03:21] <Joeeigel> Can some1 help me?
[03:21] <Joeeigel> im having a problem burning the .iso to the CD
[03:21] <meezyfuh> Jarhead756: i don't know. i'm sure i'm going to come back with some questions about installing stuff but for now it's nice!
[03:21] <mzanfardino> eck: yeah, I saved my original xorg.conf.  Let me see if it boots with that.
[03:21] <skiloup> When I hibernate my laptop or put it to sleep, I have to reconfigure my wireless by running iwconfig, and then run wifi-radar to associate to the appropriate ap and get the dhcp lease.... Anybody know how I can force iwconfig to do all this so I can shove it in a script?
[03:21] <Seveas> @calc 514816/1024
[03:21] <Jarhead756> bayziders: no, something to do with bytes and bits
[03:21] <Seveas> Ubugtu, !
[03:21] <Lazergunz> eck: How do I install it >.<
[03:21] <stars> !w32codecs
[03:21] <ubotu> Seveas has a popular 3rd party repository for several packages, including the win32 codecs: see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - See also !Codecs
[03:21] <stars> detectiveinspekt thats for you
[03:21] <Jarhead756> meezyfuh: my word of advice, don't use "easyubuntu", or automatix, they break all sorts of stuff
[03:21] <stars> hm
[03:21] <shadwan> Thanks a bunch, eck and seveas! Windows will be gone forever shortly (not that I payed for the fucker anyway). Cheers for the assistance!
[03:21] <keith_> how do i turn up the antialaising
[03:21] <keith_> its not as clear as it was on windows
[03:21] <stars> hey Seveas are you that seveas btw?
[03:21] <meezyfuh> Jarhead756: i'd just use the installer.
[03:21] <keith_> >.<
[03:22] <Seveas> shadwan, please watch your tongue
[03:22] <Seveas> stars, yes
[03:22] <stars> sweet
[03:22] <stars> love your work man
[03:22] <meezyfuh> Jarhead756: the application installer thing.
[03:22] <eck> Seveas: i seem to recall that it is possible to run X11 in a framebuffer, without a video card. do you know if this is the case?
[03:22] <meezyfuh> Jarhead756: pm?
[03:22] <stars> one thing ive been dying to ask is who maintains w32 codecs ?
[03:22] <bayziders> 502 mb of ram?
[03:22] <Seveas> eck, even that uses the video card
[03:22] <stars> i was thinking of updating them a bit,..
[03:22] <cchance> Where can i get more screen savers for ubuntu 60.6 LTS
[03:22] <Seveas> can't have video without video card
[03:22] <keith_> how do i turn up the antialaising
[03:22] <keith_> its not as clear as it was on windows
[03:22] <genii> rivanov Examining kernel modules source code has been enlightening for me but your mileage may vary. What you may try is to download some source code for a particular package and examine it with from inside of kdevelop or another such development interface
[03:22] <cchance> 6.06*
[03:22] <peeps> keith: what is not clear?
[03:22] <Jarhead756> meezyfuh: what do you mean? those are programs that i mentioned that are supposed to make it easier to get mp3 playback and stuff, install other programs. at first they sound really nice, but then they break things.
[03:22] <Lazergunz> stars: no change with apt-get -f install  >.<
[03:22] <localghost> Good evening. I cannot get libapache2_modxslt working.
[03:22] <keith_> when i play my video games
[03:22] <Joeeigel> Can some1 help me?
[03:22] <Joeeigel> im having a problem burning the .iso to the CD
[03:23] <eck> Seveas: yes, that makes sense -- the monitor is plugged into the card's interface
[03:23] <keith_> its not as clear i see jagged lines
[03:23] <Jarhead756> meezyfuh: i am using irssi to chat, how can i pm withing it?
[03:23] <stars> Lazergunz eck there said its in build-essential ::: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[03:23] <keith_> and it wasnt like that before
[03:23] <rivanov> genii: ty for the advice, I'll go ahead and try that
[03:23] <keith_> so i was wondering how do i turn up the settings on the card
[03:23] <Lazergunz> stars: ah sorry my mistake :) thankyou.
[03:23] <peeps> keith: what games, what card, and do you have the latest drivers for your card?
[03:23] <detectiveinspekt> !w32codecs
[03:23] <Seveas> eck framebuffer driver does all rendering in software and only display in hardware (much like vesa), so most of modern cards is left untouched
[03:23] <Jarhead756> keith_: what kind of kard do you have?
[03:23] <ubotu> Seveas has a popular 3rd party repository for several packages, including the win32 codecs: see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - See also !Codecs
[03:24] <skiloup> anybody using wireless with ubuntu?
[03:24] <Seveas> !anybody | skiloup
[03:24] <ubotu> skiloup: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[03:24] <cliebow_> i am right now
[03:24] <keith_> ati 1650 pro
[03:24] <stars> Lazergunz lol all good.. thank eck since he knew right off the bat after all...
[03:24] <Joeeigel> im having a problem burning the .iso to the CD
[03:24] <Jarhead756> Joeeigel: what sort of .iso?
[03:24] <keith_> and i installed the drivers
[03:24] <Joeeigel> the 6.10 ISO
[03:24] <Lazergunz> :P thanks eck >.<!
[03:24] <eck> Lazergunz: np :-)
[03:24] <stars> XD
[03:24] <Jarhead756> Joeeigel: my guess, it is corrupted.
[03:24] <stars> sup eck btw
[03:25] <genii> rivanov Also there are many good C/C++ tutorials available online, starting from a basic "hello world" type of program on up to such things as writing device drivers
[03:25] <Jarhead756> Joeeigel: what sort of connection speed you got?
[03:25] <eck> likewise
[03:25] <Joeeigel> i downloaded it fine, ive extraced it ones, burnt it to a CD
[03:25] <Joeeigel> booted from CD
[03:25] <Arkaitz> How can I add a new user from the terminal?
[03:25] <Joeeigel> then it didnt work
[03:25] <Seveas> Arkaitz, adduser
[03:25] <K3nto> my bad
[03:25] <raven3x7> is there any way to get fullscreen to work with VLC?
[03:25] <Joeeigel> K3nto!
[03:25] <K3nto> link was supposed to go in PM
[03:25] <stars> pervert >.>
[03:25] <Jarhead756> Joeeigel: it may have something to do with hardware. probably graphics card, what sort of gc do you have?
[03:25] <stars> j/k
[03:26] <Joeeigel> Radeon 9600 series
[03:26] <Lazergunz> >.< Lets  hope Cedega decides to work haha. It has its times.
[03:26] <genii> OK, asking again: If anyone familiar with hosting control panels such as: http://www.gplhost.com/software-dtc.html  http://www.gnupanel.org/ or http://www.ispconfig.org/ please give a suggestion as to what may work well or has been tested under 6.06 Server. I found a good howto for the gplhost dtc install here: http://www.howtoforge.com/ubuntu6.06_dtc_isp_server
[03:26] <Jarhead756> Joeeigel: , that is why. something to do with drivers, how bad do you want ubuntu?
[03:26] <Joeeigel> very lol
[03:26] <K3nto> Joeeigel: hi
[03:26] <localghost> Xubuntu 6.10 powerpc apache 2.0, mod_xslt: I could not get it working, XML seems to be parsed by the browser. I have tried to follow all instructions given by http://mod-xslt2.com/ plus some more documentation and still nothing.
[03:26] <Joeeigel> Talk in PM K3nto
[03:26] <Jarhead756> Joeeigel: ok, hold on, let me find this tutorial for you.
[03:27] <stars> genii
[03:27] <K3nto> kk
[03:27] <stars> so you want a good control panel is what your saying?
[03:27] <keith_> are there viruses in linux?
[03:27] <stars> does webmin not work for you?
[03:27] <Joeeigel> Yes, but not as many
[03:27] <stars> keith_ sure
[03:27] <stars> like 100
[03:27] <stars> XD
[03:27] <skiloup> what's the best way to force iwconfig to associate to my ap?
[03:27] <keith_> so i can still get a virus?
[03:27] <genii> stars Yes, hopefully one which is well used in Debian distros and has active development LOL
[03:27] <K3nto> Joeegil: did you register/identify?
[03:27] <keith_> from surfing web sites
[03:27] <keith_> pr0n web sites?
[03:27] <Joeeigel> Regester/identify?
[03:28] <stars> genii well im asking if webmin would work ?
[03:28] <genii> stars The type of control panels I am meaning is for domain-hosting
[03:28] <eck> webmin is no longer supported in ubuntu
[03:28] <slavik> keith_: from anything you install, except stuff in the repos (although those can get compromised, too)
[03:28] <Joeeugek> lol
[03:28] <eck> !webmin
[03:28] <ubotu> webmin is no longer supported in Debian and Ubuntu. Please avoid using it.
[03:28] <stars> mm
[03:28] <genii> eck thanks
[03:28] <keith_> wow i should just go back to xp then
[03:28] <stars> genii are you able to have absolute full control over machines?
[03:28] <genii> stars Yes
[03:28] <Jarhead756> Joeeigel: here it is. http://doc.gwos.org/index.php/Nvidia_Intel_Integrated . i think this should work, i had the hardest time with my nvidia, and this should help you. i'm not sure, it's supposed to work with ati cards. also may have a small difference since you are trying edgy instead of dapper.
[03:29] <Joeeigel> ty
[03:29] <keith_> so i can play any game i want
[03:29] <stars> one place you should get familiar with quickly i would say is ubuntuforums.org
[03:29] <K3nto> Sivako: type "/msg NickServ IDENTIFY <yourpassword>
[03:29] <keith_> cause i just bought a 300 dollar graphics card and linux isnt making full use of it
[03:29] <Joeeigel> yea i forgot that lol
[03:29] <slavik> keith_: I can play WoW, Ut2k4, Doom3 (if I find the first disc so I can isntall it) and HL2 (and mods) :)
[03:29] <Jarhead756> Joeeigel: if you continue to have problems, come back here, eventually you can get it to work, i promise,
[03:29] <stars> btw
[03:29] <eck> genii: if you want to use any such hosting panels you are pretty much on your own, the debian/ubuntu devs consider them to be Bad Things
[03:29] <ryanakca> at the bottom of http://www.howtoforge.com/perfect_setup_ubuntu_6.06_p4 . Why does this commands give these errors? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8311/
[03:30] <K3nto> Joeegil: "/msg NickServ REGISTER <password>
[03:30] <slavik> keith_: what card? and look up how to install binary drivers
[03:30] <Joeeigel> Junkhead
[03:30] <keith_> i have the ATI 1650 pro
[03:30] <stars> if anyone knows who keeps up those forums they should whip them badly... the search doesnt even work very well anymore... might be nice to add a google search of the site to the search ability
[03:30] <keith_> i installed the drivers
[03:30] <tunganet> If someone is remote desktop-ing me, how do i stop during the session?
[03:30] <keith_> it still isnt performing good like it did in windows
[03:30] <D7x> where is the apache config file located?
[03:30] <keith_> windows had a pretty little console for it
[03:31] <coachz> Can anyone tell me what channel to go to to learn how to setup my own channel?   I tried #freenode and it says cannot send to channel.
[03:31] <ryanakca> coachz: to setup your own channel: /join #channel   and /cs help
[03:31] <genii> eck LOL well, most ppl are not using the 6.06 server version much in this way I am finding. They all seem to be running stock Debian boxes. But at the moment I am tinkering with it.
[03:31] <transgress_> okay gdm doesn't seem to pay attention to .xsession does anyone know what it pays attention to?
[03:31] <Jordan_U> Can I just install LILO with the Alternate CD but not install the system ( recovering unbootable system ) ?
[03:32] <tunganet> If someone is remote desktop-ing me, how do i stop during the session?
[03:32] <coachz> thanks
[03:32] <coachz> is there a support channel ?
[03:32] <Jordan_U> transgress: /etc/gdm/gdm.conf-custom ?
[03:32] <tunganet> How do i stop the other person from remote desktoping me?
[03:32] <gyaresu> coachz: or check out http://freenode.net
[03:32] <transgress_> Jordan_U: you can ... or you can use a livecd and chroot into the real environment
[03:32] <keith_> o well linux saves me money from wasting it on gsme cds
[03:32] <keith_> most games suck ass anywaty
[03:32] <omglazers> Anyone here mind helping me out in compiling the ubuntu kernel?
[03:32] <coachz> i tried http://freenode.net  but it's a mess
[03:32] <Prophet> Anyone familiar with Hydra?
[03:33] <gyaresu> omglazers: http://howtoforge.com/roll_a_kernel_debian_ubuntu_way Are you trying this?
[03:33] <Joeeigel> Jarhead
[03:33] <keith_> ill try linux from scratch
[03:33] <keith_> and make my own drivers
[03:33] <Jordan_U> transgress_: Doesn't work, I was hoping that the liveCD would have some extra stuff for intel macs ( it does in fact ) that would make a lilo install work from the install CD
[03:34] <eck> transgress_: i think just the things in /etc/gdm
[03:34] <Jarhead756> Does anyone know when Feisy Fawn is due out?
[03:34] <eck> Jarhead756: april
[03:34] <preaction> Jordan_U: grub works with rEFIt
[03:34] <omglazers> gyaresu: No. I have a marvell possibly yukon ethernet that I need to enable and I have to compile it in the kernel, enabling a flag there (or so im told)
[03:34] <Joeeigel> jarhead
[03:34] <omglazers> And I have no fking clue how to do that.
[03:34] <preaction> Jordan_U: as long as you've installed bootcamp
[03:34] <omglazers> So I have to figure out how to compile a kernel
[03:34] <Jordan_U> preaction: But GRUB isn't working, that's the problem, it was, now it isn't
[03:34] <Jarhead756> eck: when exactly in april? early or latter? and does ubuntu have a great record for coming out when expected?
[03:34] <gyaresu> omglazers: You can't just load it as a module?
[03:35] <eck> omglazers: are you sure there is no kernel module in the ubuntu kernel?
[03:35] <keith_> so when i upgrade to feisty fawn do i have to delete all my settings in edgy
[03:35] <eck> Jarhead756: it will be out on time
[03:35] <`nicola> which software can I use to synchronize the same folder on 3 different hard disk ?
[03:35] <omglazers> I have NO clue
[03:35] <keith_> and start all over again?
[03:35] <omglazers> All I know is that my ether is not recognized
[03:35] <tunganet> How do i stop the other person from remote desktoping me?
[03:35] <eck> Jarhead756: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeistyReleaseSchedule
[03:35] <gyaresu> eck: You want to handle omglazers question?
[03:35] <preaction> `nicola: man rsync
[03:35] <`nicola> thanks preaction
[03:35] <preaction> tunganet: disable remote desktop?
[03:35] <eck> sure
[03:35] <transgress_> Jordan_U: i've done it.  it will work.  you can follow the steps in the gentoo handbook as that is how you install gentoo...
[03:35] <Jarhead756> eck: i am using dapper, how will i be able to upgrade? i for one am using an nvidia card, will this upgrade cause all sorts of trouble for me?
[03:36] <gyaresu> eck: Thanks (I can if you're busy). Just thought I'd ask.
[03:36] <omglazers> Eck: Ive got the ethernet problem which I was told I could fix by enabling a flag for the hardware in the kernel
[03:36] <Lazergunz> eck:  >.< I must close ' x server because its already running ' before i continue to install the drivers. Any ideas =S
[03:36] <eck> gyaresu: go for it
[03:36] <mheath> Jarhead756, No, Ubuntu does not have the best track record as far as coming out "when expected". Several releases have been slightly delayed before, though the delays were usually minor.
[03:36] <mheath> Jarhead756, Starting in Dapper, Ubuntu includes an integrated distribution upgrade tool.
[03:36] <omglazers> gyaresu: You want to help ? :\
[03:36] <LookTj> any reasons why my jabber.org isn't connecting?
[03:36] <Prophet> Anyone familiar with Hydra?  I keep encountering an error I could use some help with.
[03:37] <ryanakca> at the bottom of http://www.howtoforge.com/perfect_setup_ubuntu_6.06_p4 . Those commands give these errors: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8311/   . I was then told to change host from localhost to % in users table. How do I do that?
[03:37] <eck> Jarhead756: you will have to wait until closer to the release
[03:37] <Joeeigel> Jarhead!!!
[03:37] <preaction> Lazergunz: logout of Gnome, Ctrl+Alt+F1, sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[03:37] <mheath> Jarhead756, and while upgrades are usually pretty smooth, Video card drivers have been a bit of a problem area.
[03:37] <gyaresu> omglazers: Could you please post the links to the info you have so far? pastebin your lspci and maybe the pages on teh interweb that you've found this info...
[03:37] <eck> Jarhead756: i am not really sure how clsoely nvidia is tracking X11
[03:37] <mheath> Jarhead756, It's impossibleto say at this point how much trouble your nvida drivers will be in the upgrade.
[03:37] <keith_> jarhead are you in the marines
[03:37] <Jarhead756> is there some sort of program i can install so that i can view webpages from within terminal?
[03:37] <Jarhead756> Joeeigel: do you need something?
[03:37] <omglazers> gyaresu: I can't pastebin anything from my lspci because im on my laptop and my desktop is getting the nux. I can tell you what I was given advice on in the #linux channel after we discussed the lspci info
[03:37] <mheath> keith_, He's not. No real Marine would be on here with a nickname of Jarhead.
[03:37] <omglazers> gyaresu: This is the line about my ethernet from lspci
[03:38] <starscalling> eh
[03:38] <starscalling> sweet
[03:38] <eck> Jarhead756: xorg 7.2 came out a while ago, so i think nvidia will have their stuff together in time
[03:38] <`nicola> preaction, rsync looks great is there any other software with GUI ? thanks
[03:38] <keith_> i was active duty marines
[03:38] <eck> they probably already do
[03:38] <Jarhead756> www.google.com
[03:38] <omglazers> gyaresu: "ethernet controller: marvell technology group ltd. unknown device 4364 (rev 12)"
[03:38] <Soccer5555> http://www.jibjab.com/originals/originals/jibjab/movieid/70 XD
[03:38] <omglazers> gyaresu: I was told by briareus in #linux "there is a flag in "menuconfig" (your kernel config) in the following section: Device Drivers -> Ethernet (1000 Mbit) --> and the flag is called:   < > Marvell Yukon Chipset / SysKonnect SK-98xx Support"
[03:38] <slavik> marvel, no so good support
[03:38] <gyaresu> omglazers: and did someone tell you the name of the kernel driver you needed?
[03:39] <omglazers> gyaresu: My motherboard is the gigabyte s3 (see: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16813128017)
[03:39] <eck> slavik: even for a wired nic?
[03:39] <preaction> `nicola: google for "rsync GUI" http://www.debianhelp.co.uk/rsyncweb.htm
[03:39] <mheath> keith_, not sure I buy that as most Marines I know would say "I was a Marine" not "I was active duty marines". They don't talk like that.
[03:39] <gyaresu> omglazers: Cool.
[03:39] <slavik> eck: not sure :P
[03:39] <Lazergunz> preaction: Do i just ctrl + alt + f1 to log back into gnome?
[03:39] <`nicola> thanks again preaction
[03:39] <omglazers> gyaresu: I was told that above walkthrough but he didnt have time to help me through it. He told me to do that if my chipset was a yukon
[03:40] <Jarhead756> can i browse the web from within terminal, i only want text based things
[03:40] <preaction> Lazergunz: no, you'd need to start GDM again: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start, and then ctrl+alt+f7
[03:40] <keith_> ok then "I was a marine"
[03:40] <gyaresu> omglazers: If you want the 10sec easy solution just to get network connection on your desktop then you could throw a network card in.
[03:40] <Lazergunz> preaction: thanks a lot :)
[03:40] <keith_> stationed in hawaii
[03:40] <gyaresu> omglazers: Do you have one lying around?
[03:40] <omglazers> gyaresu: No I dont think I do
[03:40] <mheath> Jarhead756, Yes, there are several popular text based browsers, namely Lynx and elinks (also called just links or links2)
[03:40] <preaction> Lazergunz: if F7 doesn't work, try other F# keys, one of them will be X
[03:40] <omglazers> gyaresu: And I dont really think I have any money to buy one
[03:41] <Lazergunz> preaction: :P sure thing
[03:41] <omglazers> gyaresu: Med school student.. im broke ass poor which is why i'd really enjoy linux :(
[03:41] <Jarhead756> mheath: can i run those within terminal? i want something so i can do that within terminal?
[03:41] <preaction> Lazergunz: i'm fairly sure that 1-6 are terminals, and 7 is X, but it might b 8
[03:41] <mheath> keith_, MOS?
[03:41] <keith_> 0311
[03:41] <keith_> infantry
[03:41] <mheath> Jarhead756, Yes, both of those are text based.
[03:41] <Lazergunz> preaction: >.< i'll give it a try now.
[03:41] <gyaresu> omglazers: Alright. No probs. You should really just need to build and install the module but you will have trouble doing that without a network connection.
[03:41] <regecks> hlo
[03:42] <xerecks> we waiting
[03:42] <xerecks> hlol
[03:42] <xerecks> is dis internet help
[03:42] <mheath> keith_: I was 0311. Or training to do it at least. I was discharged from the Marine Corps for medical reasons. In the Navy now.
[03:42] <bitbuck> Ok, I have a boot problem, the monitor goes out of range, I am using an NVIDIA card.. .how do you boot from the CD and boot to VESA mode?
[03:42] <gyaresu> omglazers: is the desktop installed and running? (Is it sitting next to you?)
[03:42] <xerecks> hlo som1 is dis internet help??
[03:42] <Mortuis> If I'm connected to a windows computer with samba, how do I copy my /home directory to the windows computer?  I've tried using the put command but it doesn't seem to be working.
[03:42] <keith_> i am going to join the navy to
[03:42] <gyaresu> omglazers: what kernel is it running?
[03:42] <omglazers> gyaresu: Yeaup. Sitting next to me. I'd talk to you on it, if I had internet on it
[03:42] <Jarhead756> keith_: no, im not, im only 15, but i am most likely going to join up after high school. why do you ask?
[03:42] <gyaresu> omglazers: :)
[03:42] <omglazers> gyaresu: Kubuntu 6.10 edgy
[03:42] <xerecks> it says "update from internet explorer 4.0 to 6.0 clik her"
[03:42] <xerecks> wut i do
[03:42] <gyaresu> omglazers: 'uname -a'
[03:42] <keith_> i want to do the computers course in the navy
[03:42] <keith_> i am getting back in shape now
[03:43] <eck> Mortuis: if you have it mounted just copy it like a local file
[03:43] <preaction> Mortuis: i assume you have a share on the windows computer that you can write to?
[03:43] <xerecks> (regecks) I CANT JOIN UBUNTU
[03:43] <mheath> Heh. Yah. Some kid that watched "Jarhead" and wants to join the Corps. :P
[03:43] <keith_> to be a small computer specialist
[03:43] <xerecks> wut cn d probem be?
[03:43] <xerecks> lack of IQ?
[03:43] <Pelo> does anyojne here use  GDESKLETS ? I'm having a small problem where the desklets freeze and the system monitor shows python using all available cpu
[03:43] <regecks> WHY CANT I JOIN UBUNTU
[03:43] <Mortuis> preaction: yes, I'm connected to it with samba right now
[03:43] <bitbuck> Ok, I have a boot problem, the monitor goes out of range, I am using an NVIDIA card.. .how do you boot from the CD and boot to VESA mode?
[03:43] <Jarhead756> keith_: how is that? if i do join, i will have something to do with computers.
[03:43] <kidbuntu> Whats the problem with the X when I cant switch a user?
[03:43] <gasp> yay, it works
[03:43] <bitbuck> Ok, I have a boot problem, the monitor goes out of range, I am using an NVIDIA card.. .how do you boot from the CD and boot to VESA mode?
[03:43] <jamaur> hey all, a quick question: anyone know if I can capture VHS to DVD with an old voodoo 3 video card with a video capture device + USB?
[03:43] <xerecks> hi i hav just installed ubuntu and i need help with using it
[03:43] <xerecks> how do i open "start menu"
[03:43] <keith_> good for you jarhead
[03:43] <xerecks> and open "mspaint" ?
[03:43] <transgress_> Pelo: it's a bug in gdesklets  no good way to fix it unless you can program
[03:44] <gasp> it is unbelievable how ubuntu is simple
[03:44] <preaction> xerecks: you're trolling, please stop
[03:44] <xerecks> wtf?!?!?!?!
[03:44] <mheath> Jarhead756, Hate the be the one to break it to you, but there aren't very many computer jobs in the Marine Corps.
[03:44] <Jarhead756> mheath: nah, my dad was a marine, thats all i have heard, about how great the core is, so i think i may join.
[03:44] <Uriko04> xerecks stop you idiot
[03:44] <preaction> Mortuis: i usually just use nautilus
[03:44] <xerecks> dud i am fkn in deep shit here n u tel me troll
[03:44] <xerecks> dud wtf
[03:44] <gasp> oky, time to go back to bed
[03:44] <khaije> where can i find out about linux compatibility for new-ish laptops?
[03:44] <Uriko04> :o
[03:44] <omglazers> gyaresu: linux tower 2.6.17-10 generic #2 smp fri oct 13 18:45:53 utc 2006 i686 gnu/linux
[03:44] <Uriko04> irl tbh
[03:44] <Pelo> transgress,  thanks I just wanted to check if it was me or a known bug
[03:44] <gasp> thx for you help folks
[03:44] <frunk> xerecks, u r troll?@?! nomoresex4u
[03:44] <xerecks> my first time evr usin unbuntu
[03:44] <ryanakca> at the bottom of http://www.howtoforge.com/perfect_setup_ubuntu_6.06_p4 . Those commands give these errors: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8311/   . I was then told to change host from localhost to % in users table. How do I do that?
[03:44] <mheath> Jarhead756, And if you want to join the Marine Corps to work with computers, your probably not going to like the Corps nor really fit in. In my opinion.
[03:44] <bitbuck> Ok, I have a boot problem, the monitor goes out of range, I am using an NVIDIA card.. .how do you boot from the CD and boot to VESA mode?
[03:44] <Mortuis> preaction: Do you know how to open nautilus as root?  I am trying to back up my /home directory to the computer that has a cd burner
[03:44] <preaction> khaije: google for "ubuntu hardware compatibility"?
[03:44] <cables> xerecks, there is none. Now stop asking. To see your programs, go to the Applications menu.
[03:45] <preaction> Mortuis: open a terminal, sudo nautilus
[03:45] <Mortuis> thanks
[03:45] <keith_> i had a boot camp problem
[03:45] <Pelo> bitbuck,  live cd should work if not try the alternate cd wich is CLI
[03:45] <Jarhead756> mheath: i know that, so i am not sure, either that or the navy, navy has more computer based jobs, however, i would like to fly, so maybe the air force for me. i really have no clue about it, i have a while to go, but i really want to serve my country.
[03:45] <xerecks> A troll is this: http://www.timewarp-toys.com/troll.jpg
[03:45] <xerecks> I can gurantee you I am not this: http://www.timewarp-toys.com/troll.jpg
[03:45] <eck> !ops
[03:45] <ubotu> Help! Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Burgundavia, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos or tonyyarusso
[03:45] <cables> Mortuis, better to do alt-f2, gksudo nautilus
[03:45] <Hobbsee> xerecks: is that necessary?
[03:45] <xerecks> so please help someone
[03:45] <xerecks> dude
[03:45] <xerecks> i am asking help mate
[03:45] <xerecks> i just installed ubuntu
[03:45] <Jarhead756> mheath: most guys at school that want to join want to join "to kill". but i guess its more than that.
[03:45] <Mortuis> cables: too late, why would I do it that way?
[03:45] <Prophet> Anyone familiar with Hydra?  I keep encountering an error I could use some help with.
[03:46] <mheath> Jarhead756, Outstanding motivation. Your a bit naive, but your 15, so thats OK. Great to see someone your age so excited about serving their country.
[03:46] <bitbuck> Pelo. private me.
[03:46] <cables> Mortuis, it's supposed to be better to use gksudo for graphical apps.
[03:46] <Mortuis> cables: gotcha, I'll do that next time. thanks
[03:46] <Hobbsee> xerecks: you might want to see the topic.  and you arent going to be able to run most of your apps like MSpaint in linux
[03:46] <keith_> i was excited to until i got to bootcamp
[03:46] <xerecks> how i see topic :s ???
[03:46] <Jarhead756> mheath: its people that serve that kept us like we are, that is americans, so i don't see why someone wouldn't want to serve their country.
[03:46] <gyaresu> omglazers: I'm just checking some things to make sure you can do this without a network connection. Wait1.
[03:46] <superbenny> whats the diferance between kubuntu, ubuntu and xubuntu?
[03:47] <Hobbsee> xerecks: type /topic
[03:47] <cables> xerecks, Ubuntu is very different from Windows. You'll have to get used to a whole new way of doing things. There's no start menu, for instance.
[03:47] <mheath> Now if only I could get that motivated about my training :P
[03:47] <keith_> i cant remember bootcamp it was so traumatic
[03:47] <xerecks> thank you sir
[03:47] <preaction> superbenny: k = KDE, x = XFCE, u = Gnome
[03:47] <xerecks> cable how do i open IE 7 then
[03:47] <keith_> its like a blur
[03:47] <xerecks> TOPIC Not enough parameters what do i do sir
[03:47] <omglazers> gyaresu: Thank you very much :( If I had even $5, id get a card. Im so dirt poor. All my $$ goes into my tuition
[03:47] <superbenny> erm...explination?
[03:47] <cables> xerecks, firefox is the browser built into firefox. No IE7.
[03:47] <mikejanssen> mm
[03:47] <Jarhead756> keith_: what sort of thing do you do in the navy?
[03:47] <mikejanssen> i need to find more things to change with ubuntu
[03:47] <mikejanssen> = \
[03:47] <preaction> superbenny: it's the desktop system the distribution uses
[03:47] <xerecks> is firefox good
[03:47] <keith_> i havnt joined the navy yet
[03:47] <Hobbsee> !offtopic | Jarhead756
[03:47] <ubotu> Jarhead756: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[03:47] <superbenny> oo riitee
[03:47] <xerecks> does it have anti-spyware and stuff
[03:47] <cables> mikejanssen, you could start with gconf
[03:47] <keith_> still working on that
[03:47] <mikejanssen> mm
[03:47] <mikejanssen> whats that
[03:47] <mikejanssen> = X
[03:48] <superbenny> whats the diferance between those though?
[03:48] <cables> xerecks, linux doesn't get spyware. Neither does firefox. Now I think you're trolling.
[03:48] <eck> superbenny: look them up on wikipedia
[03:48] <superbenny> ok
[03:48] <xerecks> dude
[03:48] <Jarhead756> Hobbsee: gotcha.
[03:48] <keith_> i was in the marine corps 4 years
[03:48] <xerecks> I AM SORRY FOR NOT BEING A LINUX EXPERT
[03:48] <xerecks> gee :(
[03:48] <xerecks> meany..
[03:48] <preaction> superbenny: KDE is big on the flashiness, and sometimes better on the UI. gnome is supposed to be more accessible, and xfce is for slow comps or comps that need higher performance (or less GUI, but not none)
[03:48] <keith_> now i am getting stuff ready to go in the navy
[03:48] <gyaresu> omglazers: You can always burn packages you need onto disk from your laptop.
[03:48] <eck> bezibaerchen: they are just different guis
[03:48] <eck> err, that is to superbenny
[03:48] <Hobbsee> !offtopic | keith_
[03:48] <ubotu> keith_: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[03:48] <Joeeigel> K3nto
[03:48] <cables> xerecks, you know how to use IRC, but you don't know that you can't run IE7 on linux?  I can. Its my roomates laptop and its a mac; just putting that out there for any reason it might hurt
[03:48] <mheath> Hobbsee, Did they change the policy? It's been months since I've been in here, but last time I thought the official policy was that some offtopic stuff was OK as long as it wasn't interfering with other conversation.
[03:48] <kidbuntu> Whats the problem with the X when I cant switch a user? There's a problem starting X server
[03:48] <preaction> xerecks: if you are that new, you should read tutorials on the internet. this is not a place for hand-holding
[03:48] <xerecks> wtf is irc?
[03:49] <xerecks> i use mirc
[03:49] <Jarhead756> keith_: oh, gotcha. thats cool.
[03:49] <xerecks> whats irc??? another client?
[03:49] <slavik> cables: there are things like mirc ;-)
[03:49] <slavik> rofl!!!
[03:49] <mikejanssen> lol
[03:49] <keith_> the off topic police got me
[03:49] <mikejanssen> mIRC
[03:49] <preaction> xerecks: you're using mirc on linux? nice
[03:49] <xerecks> dude
[03:49] <xerecks> you dont know me i am a gangsta
[03:49] <preaction> xerecks: i like using "telnet" myself, it has a great interface
[03:49] <xerecks> nothing is impossible for me
[03:49] <Pelo> !ops | xerecks
[03:49] <nalioth> xerecks: please be on topic
[03:49] <ubotu> xerecks: Help! Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Burgundavia, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos or tonyyarusso
[03:49] <xerecks> i invented telnet
[03:49] <xerecks> so
[03:49] <Hobbsee> mheath: there are 970 people in this channel.  the policy of all offtopic chatter to #ubuntu-offtopic has been in there for a while, but hastn really been policed (just due to number of people)
[03:49] <preaction> xerecks: except, obviously, running IE7 on linux. some gangsta
[03:49] <xerecks> ok sorry let's be on topic
[03:49] <xerecks> who created ubuntu
[03:49] <linxeh> slavik: there is nothing like mIRC, unfortunately :(
[03:50] <elkbuntu> Pelo, there's two of us here, hobbsee is opped currently
[03:50] <slavik> linxeh: or fortunately? :)
[03:50] <nalioth> elkbuntu: only two?
[03:50] <Hobbsee> gah, some people just annoy me.
[03:50] <gyaresu> omglazers: 'sudo modprobe skge'
[03:50] <mheath> Hobbsee, Ah, gotcha. Thanks.
[03:50] <linxeh> slavik: unfortunately in my case - I used to IRC like this - http://www.jamesfry.com/irc.png
[03:50] <elkbuntu> nalioth, qell i hadnt seen you
[03:50] <preaction> linxeh: what about xchat? irssi is fun sometimes
[03:50] <gyaresu> omglazers: 'dmesg'
[03:50] <firefly2442> Are there any audio programs that sync well with iPods? with read/write support?
[03:50] <omglazers> gyaresu: doing it
[03:50] <Pelo> later folks
[03:50] <elkbuntu> s/qell/well/
[03:50] <keith_> sudo aptitude install moo
[03:50] <Hobbsee> mheath: just due to sheer number - following conversations is hard :P
[03:50] <nomasteryoda> firefly2442, amarok
[03:50] <mikejanssen> theres a new prog out
[03:50] <eck> firefly2442: gtkpod is the only app that i would really trust to write to my ipod
[03:50] <mikejanssen> works for linux
[03:50] <mikejanssen> Songbird
[03:50] <eck> firefly2442: a bunch of them can read from ipods
[03:50] <mikejanssen> i recommend highly
[03:50] <cables> Hobbsee, can you tell me the policy on !ops use? One time when there were multiple trolls, I used it 2 or 3 times in 10 minutes, and was kicked.
[03:50] <firefly2442> thanks
[03:50] <nomasteryoda> i use amarok...
[03:50] <mikejanssen> made by Mozilla folks
[03:51] <slavik> linxeh: holy crap, dude
[03:51] <nomasteryoda> works very well for my shuffle...
[03:51] <Jarhead756> where can i find one of these text based browsers that i can run in terminal?
[03:51] <lordkeiden> where can i get a look at, or tell the system to make, log files to help me track what is causing my hard lockups?
[03:51] <eck> firefly2442: banshee has some write support, but it is pretty buggy
[03:51] <slavik> linxeh: gaim gives me tabs :D
[03:51] <Hobbsee> cables: if there are ops around, they'll see it the first time.
[03:51] <cables> mikejanssen, i don't think it's made by mozilla, just based on it.
[03:51] <linxeh> slavik: you should see it now I use freenode too :)
[03:51] <omglazers> gyaresu: Did both, and I got a huge string of text about unknown keys pressed and released and keycodes or something :(
[03:51] <mikejanssen> songbirdnest.com
[03:51] <D7x> how do I change the root directory for apache2?
[03:51] <mikejanssen> no
[03:51] <linxeh> slavik: I hate tabs
[03:51] <cables> Hobbsee, okay.
[03:51] <mikejanssen> i think they are contributing to it
[03:51] <gyaresu> omglazers: 'lspci'
[03:51] <mheath> Jarhead756, try lynx or elinks (also called links or links2).
[03:51] <Hobbsee> cables: obviously, if they've responded to that, then calling them again for the next user is fine.  if they dont repsond the first time, they're probably nto there.
[03:51] <cables> mikejanssen, ok, but it's not a mozilla project, i don't think...
[03:51] <mheath> Jarhead756, I believe one or more of those comes with a basic ubuntu install
[03:51] <mikejanssen> = X
[03:51] <nomasteryoda> D7x, you have to edit the /etc/apache2/apache.conf file...
[03:51] <linxeh> slavik: I'm on xchat now anyway, I'm getting used to tabs, but it is a bit odd
[03:51] <cables> Hobbsee, thanks for helping me
[03:51] <slavik> linxeh: any experience with encoding?
[03:51] <omglazers> gyaresu: Done.  Still an unknown device
[03:52] <mheath> Jarhead756, or just "lynx" and use the menus to go to a new address.
[03:52] <nomasteryoda> D7x, i just setup ubuntu server... /var/www
[03:52] <Jarhead756> mheath: it doesn't seem lynx is installed.
[03:53] <linxeh> slavik: no idea sorry - not my cup of tea (I'm more into NLP / text processing, semantic web/networks/understanding, and music)
[03:53] <mheath> Jarhead756, try "links" or"links2" or "elinks".
[03:53] <slavik> linxeh: k
[03:53] <Lazergunz> Trying to install the Nvidia drivers still >.<, done everything so far apart from it sais ' No precompiled Kernal Inteface ' and it cant find a suitable. Any ideas?
[03:53] <linxeh> slavik: I probably should get into that too though :)
[03:53] <nomasteryoda> linxeh, ampache for music...
[03:53] <nomasteryoda> =D
[03:53] <mheath> Jarhead756, I'm not using Ubuntu at the moment and I can
[03:53] <Jarhead756> mheath: sudo apt-get install lynx works for me!
[03:53] <mikejanssen> one thing i hate about my ipod...when i use it on windows...then use it on linux...makes me delete/rebuild list
[03:53] <nexact_> hello all, does anyone know if there's an application that permit to recover erased files on a ntfs partition ?
[03:53] <slavik> linxeh: one problem I have so far is that there is no avisynth on linux and hence no YATTA
[03:53] <nomasteryoda> "for the love of music" actually
[03:53] <mikejanssen> i wish it would just recognize its the same computer
[03:53] <mheath> Jarhead756, *and I can't remember which name Ubuntu uses
[03:54] <Jarhead756> mheath: here it is, its working fine, thanks
[03:54] <Plecebo> I'm having trouble with GRUB, it is not counting down to the default boot entry, anyon
[03:54] <D7x> nomasteryoda: yes, but I don't see any place in the conf file pointing to that
[03:54] <nomasteryoda> D7x, i just setup ampache last weekend... and Ubuntu server ...
[03:54] <Plecebo> anyone heard of that?
[03:54] <nomasteryoda> hmmm
[03:54] <phixnay> why doesn't flac work on amarok?
[03:54] <redDEAD> how do i find out how much of my system ram is being used for my integrated video card on my laptop?
[03:54] <linxeh> nomasteryoda: no, as in making (playing / writing) it - I have a pretty nice home studio, and play jazz piano/keyboards/drums semi professionally
[03:54] <foutrelis> hey :) The issue I am facing is this. While playing a song in Rythmbox, the sound sounds really awful (distorted). Like the bass are set too high or something. This happens to some songs, not all. Where to look to fix this problem?
[03:54] <nomasteryoda> cool
[03:54] <nomasteryoda> very cool
[03:55] <linxeh> nomasteryoda: for the network audio stuff I use firefly / mt-daapd and itunes like stuff :p
[03:55] <Lazergunz> eck: Any ideas about these nvidia drivers :) ? ' No precompiled kernal interface '
[03:55] <linxeh> Lazergunz: check /etc/default/linux-restricted-modules-common etc
[03:55] <D7x> I suppose maybe I should just add my user to the group controlling /var/www
[03:55] <linxeh> Lazergunz: make sure "nv" doesnt appear in the list of modules
[03:55] <nomasteryoda> linxeh, i do a site for a guy who produces mostly bluegrass music groups here in Middle GA... quite fun
[03:56] <linxeh> Lazergunz: and make sure you have nvidia-glx etc installed
[03:56] <linxeh> nomasteryoda: cool - I do a lot of classical recording, mainly of english pipe organs, but also of bands and orchestras from time to time (digital mixer / hardware recorder for live, but going to use Ardour2 for editing up the latest recordings)
[03:57] <bugnthecode> I just installed edgy on my tc4400 tablet pc at work, and had everything working just right.  What has changed is that at work I had it in a dock which had a monitor, a mouse, and a keyboard connected to it. Any ideas why this would just stop working?
[03:57] <gyaresu> omglazers: Hey. I found this article http://www.atomicmpc.com.au/forums.asp?s=2&c=16&t=4279
[03:58] <omglazers> gyaresu: Wow awesome
[03:58] <nomasteryoda> cool... another friend does recording, but uses a raw digital recorder... can do like 9 hours .. he hooks into the main board at these concerts... but uses sony product to sync/edit
[03:58] <omglazers> gyaresu: What should I do? third post down?
[03:58] <nomasteryoda> he wants to use ubuntu and audacity, etc
[03:59] <Jarhead756> is there some way i can connect to, for example, aim, from within terminal?
[03:59] <phixnay> audacity is awesome!
[03:59] <Jarhead756> phixnay: i like audacity too
[03:59] <foutrelis> ok if I cannot fix this issue with Rythmbox, which media player do you suggest? :)
[03:59] <gyaresu> omglazers: I've found the driver package at the marvell site http://marvell.com/drivers/driverDisplay.do?dId=153&pId=36
[03:59] <Jarhead756> foutrelis: what are you trying to do?
[04:00] <Isarl> is anybody bored or generous enough to help me figure out how to get my wireless card working in Ubuntu?  ^^;
[04:00] <redDEAD> how do i find out how much of my system ram is being used for my integrated video card on my laptop?
[04:00] <nomasteryoda> D7x, ServerRoot "/etc/apache2" quoted from my apache.conf file...
[04:00] <foutrelis> Jarhead756: While playing a song in Rythmbox, the sound sounds really awful (distorted). Like the bass are set too high or something. This happens to some songs, not all.
[04:00] <phixnay> foutrelis: audacious works well for me, for general playback of music
[04:00] <foutrelis> phixnay: noted. thanks
[04:00] <TheVault> What should I install? I am fooling around with the LIVE CD and I wanna know what should I install and get fimilar with
[04:00] <omglazers> gyaresu: Did I ever tell you, that I love you?
[04:01] <lufi1> aww
[04:01] <Jarhead756> foutrelis: i have no clue, i use amarok, i really like amarok, its better than itunes, so i don't know what to say, what format are the songs in?
[04:01] <omglazers> gyaresu: Because if this works im gonna buy you a fking porche
[04:01] <phixnay> TheVault: i'd get build-essential, linux-headers, and networkmanager for a start
[04:01] <nomasteryoda> D7x, here it is... look into /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/000-default
[04:02] <foutrelis> Jarhead756: mp3. hmmm.. I ll trying playing them back in that Movie player (totem I think) to see if the problem is about Rythmbox or not.. hmm
[04:02] <nomasteryoda> /var/www is right there...
[04:02] <TheVault> Good idea phixnay....but I mean software in general
[04:02] <phixnay> Jarhead756: does flac work for you in amarok? I installed amarok and it wouldn't play flac, though all my other players would
[04:02] <TheVault> For some reason, I'm in this big mood of learning ubuntu all of a sudden
[04:02] <Jarhead756> foutrelis: good idea. however, i think both of those use gstreamer as their base.
[04:02] <lufi1> phixnay: you'll need libxine-extracodecs for flac
[04:02] <nomasteryoda> Jarhead756, did you install the libmad?
[04:02] <Jarhead756> phixnay: flac? im not familar with that. is that aac?
[04:03] <phixnay> lufi1: thanks, I'll try
[04:03] <lufi1> flac is lossless
[04:03] <nomasteryoda> oh no.. foutrelis
[04:03] <nomasteryoda> sorry
[04:03] <phixnay> Jarhead756: Free Lossles Audio Codec
[04:03] <Isarl> Jarhead756: flac is its own lossless codec
[04:03] <Jarhead756> nomasteryoda: i use amarok with xine
[04:03] <nomasteryoda> ya
[04:03] <TheVault> is Frostwire hard to install? if not then I'm going to teach myself how(linux noob that I am lol)
[04:03] <nomasteryoda> me too
[04:03] <foutrelis> Jarhead756: hmmm!!! the mp3 sounds great in totem! wow :P
[04:03] <cables> !frostwire | TheDebugger
[04:03] <ubotu> TheDebugger: frostwire is a totally open source version of Limewire.  For installation help, please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FrostWire
[04:03] <cables> !frostwire | TheVault
[04:03] <tunganet> Can anyone tell me how to make my refresh rate stop going back to 45 hz (interlaced)?
[04:03] <ubotu> TheVault: frostwire is a totally open source version of Limewire.  For installation help, please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FrostWire
[04:04] <Jarhead756> phixnay: i have never tried to play those, what version of amarok you using?
[04:04] <TheVault> Frostwire is basicly Limewire but open source?
[04:04] <tunganet> Can anyone tell me how to make my refresh rate stop going back to 45 hz (interlaced)?
[04:04] <cables> TheVault, yep
[04:04] <TheVault> SWEET
[04:04] <cables> !repeat | tunganet
[04:04] <ubotu> tunganet: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[04:04] <TheVault> What else should I install?
[04:04] <Jarhead756> TheVault: i use gtk gnutella, i like it a lot, and you can install it from add/remove.
[04:05] <TheVault> alrighty Jarhead756
[04:05] <phixnay> Jarhead756: the latest one in synaptic. I read on the amarok page that flac was broken in the lastest build, so I guess I'll just wait for the fix to come
[04:05] <Traveler8> Hello
[04:05] <TheVault> whats a good Mp3 player program?
[04:05] <omglazers> gyaresu: Gimme a second my idiot roomie has no burning soft on his mac im going to put one on and put the driver on the linux so maybe you can help me from there when im done :)
[04:05] <phixnay> TheVault: you can get "bum" which lets you mess around with stuff that loads on boot
[04:05] <lufi1> TheVault: everyone loves amarok
[04:05] <Isarl> Hmmm....
[04:06] <TheVault> amarok, is that in the Add/Remove in the Applications?
[04:06] <blanky> !openbox
[04:06] <ubotu> openbox is a lightweight window manager. For instructions and more information see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Openbox. To replace metacity with Openbox please see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Replace_Metacity_with_Openbox_in_gnome
[04:06] <gyaresu> omglazers: No problem. USB flash disk would be helpfull.
[04:06] <Jarhead756> phixnay: im not sure, do the files play in other programs?
[04:06] <cables> TheVault, only prob with Amarok is that it has like 112 mb of KDE deps if you don't already have kde
[04:06] <lufi1> TheVault: i dunno, sudo apt-get install amarok
[04:06] <omglazers> gyaresu: DOH
[04:06] <lufi1> cables: yeah, but it's worth it imo
[04:06] <Plecebo> anyone have an idea why grub would NOT be counting down, it just sits at 10 seconds... menu.lst http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8325/
[04:06] <cables> lufi1, yep :)
[04:06] <omglazers> gyaresu: I am made of epic fail :(
[04:06] <TheVault> well I don't wanna download huge files so I rather not, besides I am on Ubuntu anyway
[04:06] <lufi1> TheVault: you might like banshee
[04:06] <Jarhead756> cables: and after all the deps, some features don't work right, what about exaile, isn't it supposed to be really good too?
[04:07] <Isarl> I'm having problems with my Intel 3945 wireless card.  When trying to install the driver, I get an error message involving the IEEE80211 subsystem and something about "out of tree"... can anybody help, please?
[04:07] <phixnay> Jarhead756: yeah they do. since the people on the amarok website said it's a bug, there's probably nothing to do about it
[04:07] <Jarhead756> phixnay: well, they may fix it soon, you could try converting the files.
[04:07] <TheVault> I'll try that. Besides doing a full update, how do I just update Firefox to 2.0.2?
[04:07] <cables> TheVault, it will update itself.
[04:07] <blanky> http://icculus.org/openbox/screenshots.php
[04:08] <lufi1> TheVault: sudo apt-get upgrade
[04:08] <cables> TheVault, Ubuntu updates all the apps you have installed, automatically.
[04:08] <phixnay> Jarhead756: lol, I like my flac files, I'll just use amarok for mp3s I have for the time being
[04:08] <TraceGreen> hello, when i try to use pptpconfig to build my vpn, everything seems ok, but if i run pon ***, I can just ping vpn server. why?
[04:08] <cables> TheVault, lufi1 's command will do it right away, but ubuntu will pop up a notification whenever there are software updates.
[04:08] <craig> i need help, i installed the alternate install...I can't boot after installation...i just get the kubuntu screen and it freezes...its a graphic driver problem...my card doesn't like the generic one...what command line options can i give so that it i can get into kubuntu
[04:08] <pingping> how do i specify a port to ping with the ping command?
[04:08] <Jarhead756> how can i update firefox to 2.0.2? i downloaded the tar.gz and extracted it, but i want to update the main firefox. for it to automatically update, it has to be in the repos, right? in my repos 1.5 something is the latest (dapper).
[04:09] <omglazers> gyaresu: OK, I got it onto the desktop and opened it.. im at the unzipping utility I believe.. what should I do now?
[04:09] <omglazers> gyaresu: I never knew how to install stuff on nux :(
[04:09] <lufi1> Jarhead756: you don't have to do anything outside of ubuntu. just run sudo apt-get upgrade in the terminal
[04:09] <bugnthecode> how would I be able to determine what port a device is connected to?
[04:09] <lufi1> Jarhead756: oh, whoops
[04:09] <lufi1> Jarhead756: didn't read your whole message.
[04:09] <Jarhead756> lufi1: i don't think i can can i?
[04:09] <EkToBoT> so many questions
[04:10] <lufi1> Jarhead756: yeah, you can. extract it and move it to /opt or someplace like that
[04:10] <lufi1> Jarhead756: then run /opt/firefox/firefox
[04:10] <Jarhead756> oh, i am using 2.0.2 right now, i just wanted the one that was already installed on here to be updated, something to do with being "clean" i guess.
[04:10] <lufi1> Jarhead756: actually, there may be a backport
[04:10] <lufi1> let me check
[04:10] <gyaresu> omglazers: open up a terminal and change into the drivers directory (cool with that?).
[04:10] <EkToBoT> firefox updates automaticaly anyways....
[04:10] <pingping> how do i specify a port to ping with the ping command?
[04:11] <Jarhead756> lufi1: alright.
[04:11] <omglazers> gyaresu: Alright lemme get 'em out and cd there
[04:11] <lufi1> Jarhead756: oh, ok. then don't worry about it
[04:11] <meezyfuh> if i install java do i need to restart before it will work in firefox?
[04:11] <Jarhead756> lufi1: i guess i will wait for feisty, it should be updated there shouldn't it
[04:11] <EkToBoT> no
[04:11] <lufi1> Jarhead756: yes
[04:11] <cables> meezyfuh, you should restart firefox. Not the whole computer.
[04:12] <lufi1> Jarhead756: the thing with dapper is you're going to be receiving support for 5 years but you'll be using o.l.d. software :P
[04:12] <EkToBoT> yes i agree
[04:12] <meezyfuh> cables: i don't think it worked. i am still seeing 'click here to install plugin'
[04:12] <Jarhead756> lufi1: LTS, right? isn't there supposed to be a newer LTS coming out soon?
[04:12] <lufi1> Jarhead756: have no idea
[04:12] <phixnay> Jarhead756: one comes out every 18months
[04:12] <EkToBoT> can anyone help about using usb memory cards between ubuntu and windows???
[04:12] <Jarhead756> lufi1: i heard feisty was planned to be, but then i later heard it isn't going to be, so who knows.
[04:12] <EkToBoT> it seems to go abit strange
[04:13] <omglazers> gyaresu: I wont lie to you. I have no clue how to change directories in linux. CD apparently is not the same command lol
[04:13] <phixnay> Jarhead756: so another year or so I think
[04:13] <preaction> EkToBoT: you need to make sure ubuntu formats the USB card in FAT32
[04:13] <EkToBoT> cd..
[04:13] <Jarhead756> omglazers: cd is the command
[04:13] <cables> omglazers, it is cd.
[04:13] <mikejanssen> heh
[04:13] <Jarhead756> omglazers: use something like cd /home/YOUR NAME/Desktop
[04:13] <EkToBoT> is one fullstop . one directory and .. is 2?
[04:13] <gyaresu> omglazers: no problem. All commands are case sensetive.
[04:13] <omglazers> ok, well, it wont let me do that jar
[04:14] <preaction> EkToBoT: . is the current directory. .. is the parent directory
[04:14] <koabara> is there any update for kernel-2.6.15-k7? i havent seen any k7 optimised kernel recently
[04:14] <EkToBoT> thanks :)
[04:14] <EkToBoT> any ideas onthe usb??
[04:14] <Jarhead756> omglazers: try this. cd /home
[04:14] <koabara> is there any update for kernel-2.6.15-k7? i havent seen any k7 optimised kernel recently
[04:14] <EkToBoT> yeah that is just specifying a directory
[04:14] <omglazers> Jarhead756: works. DOESNT work when I try to go to /desktop
[04:14] <preaction> EkToBoT: above ^, is the USB drive formatted in Fat32?
[04:14] <gyaresu> omglazers: You've got the terminal open right. It will have opened up to your home directory. Did you save the file to your Desktop?
[04:14] <Jarhead756> omglazers: it has to be Desktop, it is case sensitive
[04:14] <omglazers> gyaresu: I did. I just cant CD into desktop
[04:14] <lufi1> omglazers: desktop is ~/Desktop
[04:15] <gyaresu> omglazers: Case sensetive...
[04:15] <omglazers> No no
[04:15] <EkToBoT> i have no idea about what format it is
[04:15] <omglazers> It says 'no such file or dir'
[04:15] <koabara> is there any update for kernel-2.6.15-k7? i havent seen any k7 optimised kernel recently
[04:15] <koabara> is there any update for kernel-2.6.15-k7? i havent seen any k7 optimised kernel recently
[04:15] <koabara> is there any update for kernel-2.6.15-k7? i havent seen any k7 optimised kernel recently
[04:15] <gyaresu> omglazers: 'ls -l'
[04:15] <omglazers> OHHH
[04:15] <preaction> EkToBoT: it has to be FAT32
[04:15] <omglazers> I had to do a ~
[04:15] <Jarhead756> use cd /home, then you can use "ls" to to see the folders and files in that dir]
[04:15] <preaction> !repeat > koabara
[04:15] <lufi1> koabara: asking once is sufficient. apparently no one knows
[04:15] <omglazers> gyaresu: Sorry it was ~/desktop
[04:15] <EkToBoT> i originaly used it in windows but i used it to transsfre some files from ubuntu
[04:15] <meezyfuh> cables: can i pm?
[04:15] <tannerld> does anyone know how to fix http://www.rage3d.com/board/showthread.php?p=1334828689#post1334828689
[04:15] <gyaresu> omglazers: cool. So 'cd destop'
[04:15] <cables> meezyfuh, go ahead
[04:16] <cables> gyaresu, nope. cd ~/Desktop
[04:16] <omglazers> gyaresu: Ok im in the folder where I put the drivers
[04:16] <omglazers> gyaresu: on the desktop I mean
[04:16] <preaction> EkToBoT: Open Settings > Administration > Disks (or whatever), you'll probably find it there
[04:16] <lufi1> gyaresu: ~ is a variable for your home directory, fyi
[04:16] <Jarhead756> omglazers: so you have it working now?
[04:16] <doff> how can I change maximum send packet size(mtu?)?
[04:16] <EkToBoT> k i will check how do i pm?
[04:16] <Jarhead756> cables: so you can use ~/ to skip all of the paths sometimes?
[04:16] <preaction> EkToBoT: why would you want to pm?
[04:17] <lufi1> doff: doesn't your modem have that configurability?
[04:17] <omglazers> Jarhead756: Yup.
[04:17] <gyaresu> lufi1: I have a black belt in nix but thanks.
[04:17] <preaction> Jarhead756: when the start of the path is /home/$USER
[04:17] <cables> Jarhead756, ~ = your home folder
[04:17] <EkToBoT> no lol like you did
[04:17] <Asimo> hello all, can someone help me please. i'm trying to run Ubuntu and after the loading bar finishes my monitor goes off? but when i did it with virtual machine it worked?
[04:17] <lufi1> gyaresu: ah, well i didn't know :P
[04:17] <EkToBoT> to keep track
[04:17] <Jarhead756> cables: oh, thats cool. i can use that all the time.
[04:17] <preaction> EkToBoT: that isn't a pm, that's just me putting your name in front
[04:17] <cables> Jarhead756, . = current folder, .. = parent folder, ~ = home folder
[04:17] <xreyye> I'm having a problem with not being able to set my monitor to max refresh rate. Running ati with fglrx drivers. Anyone know a solution?
[04:17] <preaction> EkToBoT: try typing "prea" then hitting the "tab" key
[04:17] <gyaresu> omglazers: ignore everyone else please :) too much help here atm.
[04:17] <omglazers> gyaresu: Sorry about all of that. Im in the folder, sorry. :(
[04:17] <omglazers> gyaresu: Can do. Sorry.
[04:17] <phixnay> Asimo: have you tried running "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"?
[04:17] <wwallace_lap> !xorg
[04:17] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[04:17] <EkToBoT> preaction:
[04:17] <gyaresu> omglazers: Absolutely no problem.
[04:18] <doff> lufi1, don't know) I've got a vpn (pptp) tunnel. I do have to change it's config files?
[04:18] <Jarhead756> omglazers: also, try this, use tab to finish the paths. for example, instead of typing /home, type /h then hit tab, and it will finish it for you
[04:18] <EkToBoT> preaction: erm hello
[04:18] <gyaresu> omglazers: So now 'vi install.sh
[04:18] <mikejanssen> why do programs just up and exit themselves in ubuntu?
[04:18] <lufi1> doff: well, for me, my modem has a web-based configure page which allows you to set specifics like mtu and such
[04:18] <EkToBoT> lol doesnt make a difference on my screen
[04:18] <omglazers> Jarhead756: knew that
[04:18] <preaction> EkToBoT: just realize, everyone else can still see you talk, which is good because they can help if i happen to tell you something wrong
[04:18] <omglazers> gyaresu: ok doing it now
[04:18] <mikejanssen> like...my songbird just quit on me
[04:18] <Jarhead756> omglazers: ok
[04:18] <phixnay> Asimo: you can use defaults for most tings but when you get to video driver, choose "vesa" and hopefully that will solve your problems
[04:18] <lufi1> mikejanssen: that would probably be a crash
[04:18] <doff> lufi1, no) ethernet card not modem
[04:18] <EkToBoT> preaction: thats kool
[04:18] <Jarhead756> mikejanssen: you are probably talking about when you try to start something in terminal, and it doesn't work so well.
[04:19] <preaction> mikejanssen: there are multiple reasons, the main one being Segmentation Fault
[04:19] <lufi1> doff: ah, i don't know then
[04:19] <mikejanssen> nah
[04:19] <tbodine> Can anyone tell me how to remove the icons from my minimized windows in my window list?
[04:19] <mikejanssen> sometimes gaim does it
[04:19] <omglazers> gyaresu: Brought it up
[04:19] <mikejanssen> now songbird just did it
[04:19] <doff> btw does anybody know how to restart pptp vpn tunnel connection?
[04:19] <preaction> mikejanssen: if you run the program from a terminal, you might get some output on the reason it closed
[04:19] <gyaresu> omglazers: vi is _the_ cli text editor to learn because it's on every system. Later have a look at 'vimtutor'.
[04:19] <omglazers> gyaresu: So noted
[04:19] <EkToBoT> preaction: thanks for the help
[04:19] <gyaresu> omglazers: Ok. You see the very first line "#!/bin/sh"
[04:19] <preaction> omglazers: otherwise "nano" is an easy one, just not as ubiquitous
[04:19] <ahlalo_elyon> What am I supposed to do when, in KDE's User Management program, clicking on "Administrator Mode" does NOT ask for my password (nor does it allow me to make changes)??
[04:20] <omglazers> gyaresu: I do
[04:20] <ahlalo_elyon> I asked in #kubuntu, but no one seems to know.
[04:20] <phixnay> gyaresu: I've been wanting to ask this a long time, what's the major difference between nano and vim?
[04:20] <preaction> phixnay: nano is simple and stupid, vim is God's Own Editor
[04:20] <riotkittie> vim is evil. nano is not.
[04:20] <phixnay> lol I love you people
[04:20] <Bogaurd> hi.. I'm trying to setup my xbindkeys to work with key combinations - I know how to map single keys/buttons, but I want to have have CTRL + ALT + P run a specific command - anybody know how i'd note that in the .xbindkeysrc file?
[04:20] <gyaresu> omglazers: just for now (cause it's easier to explain, use the cursor keys to move over the cursor over the 's'
[04:20] <omglazers> gyaresu: Done
[04:21] <kitche> phixnay: nano is like notepad pretty much
[04:21] <preaction> a lot like the old DOS program "edit"
[04:21] <bulmer> Bogaurd: go man loadkeys
[04:21] <preaction> though so is emacs
[04:21] <phixnay> what does vim do that's so powerful then? I thought a text editor was a text editor
[04:21] <professor> when I try to edit files through the gui, it tells me I dont have permission to do so, how do I change that without going into terminal
[04:22] <riotkittie> alt f2 gksu gedit file
[04:22] <gyaresu> omglazers: hit the letter 'i' on the keyboard and you will be placed in 'interactive' mode. Then just hit the letters 'b' then 'a'. That will make the line read "#!/bin/bash".
[04:22] <riotkittie> alt + f2
[04:22] <doff> and one more question what differs are there between distributions? for ex 6.06 and 6.10? is 6.10? can I upgrade from 6.06 lts to other distributive?
[04:22] <Jarhead756> professor: i don't think you can do that, but there is some script you can add into nautilus to allow you to right click and click sudo open
[04:22] <professor> does anyone know
[04:22] <Jarhead756> professor: I THINK.
[04:22] <omglazers> gyaresu: Done
[04:22] <doff> *is 6.10 better
[04:22] <professor> ok
[04:23] <gyaresu> omglazers: That will make the script run in the 'bash' shell rather than the 'sh' shell. (See 'man bash' for a head trip of command line goodness)
[04:23] <riotkittie> 6.10 and 6.06 are versions of a distribution, not distros themselves </anal retentive>
[04:23] <Jarhead756> phixnay: i see what you mean, one person will tell you 1 is the best, another person will tell you 2 is the best (you see the comparison)
[04:23] <professor> ok another question that has been haunting me
[04:23] <Jarhead756> professor: ?
[04:23] <professor> I cant get wine to work, I just figured out that the source packets that you download from
[04:23] <At0mic_P1> Gah what happened to the old internet where you could actually download a song with no problems?
[04:24] <colbert> Hi I am trying to sync my Treo 650 Palm device with Ubuntu, and when I press the hotsync button using gnome-pilot, it keeps crashing.. can someone help please ??
[04:24] <Jordan_U> Is there a way to install LILO from the alternate install CD?
[04:24] <preaction> phixnay: vim has (a short list), syntax highlighting, auto-indent, spell check, scripting language, the ability to delete until wherever, the ability to mix commands for motion (like move one line, or move until the next K) with commands for editing (like delete)
[04:24] <phixnay> Jarhead756: yeah, and both have good reasons for why they think so
[04:24] <preaction> phixnay: but seriously, vim v. emacs is what we programmers call a "Holy War"
[04:24] <professor> the packet manager is not the latest, or maybe Im doing something wrong, well anyways I installed it through terminal
[04:24] <cables> professor, package manager?
[04:24] <gyaresu> omglazers: Now if you hit the 'esc' key you will be back to 'normal'(not the right name) mode and now if you type :wq it will 'write and quit' (the colon lets you type in _lots_ of different commands for vim.
[04:24] <professor> I get an error 6006
[04:24] <preaction> phixnay: /msg fajita start a holy war <- to see a few others
[04:24] <professor> and I have tried to uninstall it (wine)
[04:25] <Evil_`> How do I install stuff with wine?
[04:25] <Jarhead756> phixnay: "People forcing their opinion on others doesn't bother me one bit, what bothers me is when someone forces a wrong opinion on someone else"-me
[04:25] <professor> no I get it once wine is running trying to open
[04:25] <Jordan_U> Evil_`: Double click the install.exe
[04:25] <phixnay> preaction: will do
[04:25] <Evil_`> Jordan_U, does that mean, with wine...it's possible for viruses?
[04:25] <professor> any tips anyone
[04:25] <riotkittie> ok. on to my crisis of the moment. i am stuck in x and it makes me a sad panda.  popped my wireless card in and my TTYs are black screens with single blinking cursors. whats a girl gotta do to fix this? :P
[04:26] <omglazers> gyaresu: Done'ed
[04:26] <K3nto> could somebody tell me if linux would be good at recovering broken ipods?
[04:26] <preaction> riotkittie: um... if you have no GUI, you're not in X
[04:26] <lufi1> riotkittie: someone should take care of those TTYs
[04:26] <phixnay> Jarhead756: what I don't like is when someone is giving you line by line instructions, and then you find out you've hosed your computer because he didn't tell you you were messing with the system
[04:26] <Jarhead756> how would i go about sycing thunderbird, if possible, if ont, evolution with my ipod (im talking contacts
[04:26] <preaction> K3nto: what do you mean by broken?
[04:26] <professor> how do I run a system scan to see if anything is broken(software)
[04:26] <gyaresu> omglazers: If all that goes well you should be back at the command prompt and can now run that 'shell script' by 'sudo ./install'
[04:26] <Jarhead756> K3nto: what do you mean broken?
[04:26] <Jordan_U> Evil_`: Yes, but they can only mess with files in your home folder, and you can set wine up so they basically can't do anything not having to due with the fake C: drive you make
[04:26] <riotkittie> preaction:  uhm. if i had no GUI, i'd have not said i was stuck in X. kthx.
[04:27] <omglazers> gyaresu: Will do it now. Whats bash versus sh ?
[04:27] <K3nto> like it says to format with itunes, and sometimes it changes to black and white pictures of "do not disconnect"
[04:27] <Evil_`> Jordan_U, how?
[04:27] <professor> how do I run a system scan to see if anything is broken(software)
[04:27] <preaction> Jarhead756: i don't know what iPods can be synced beyond music
[04:27] <preaction> riotkittie: seems like login can't run, does "ps aux" show the other ttys?
[04:27] <Jarhead756> K3nto: i don't understand iPods, they are confusing, I LOVE MINE. but, why can't they be like those cheap 50 dollars ones where you can drag a few mp3's into the root folders?
[04:28] <professor> how do I run a system scan to see if anything is broken(software)
[04:28] <gyaresu> omglazers: Just different shells. bash is more comprehensive and sh is more basic but therefore much faster. (scripts don't need TAB completion and other cool things that humans do :)
[04:28] <Jordan_U> Evil_`: I don't actually know, I just know it's possible, try #winehq for info on wine
[04:28] <Evil_`> eh, i'll just uninstall it
[04:28] <omglazers> gyaresu: It keeps failing :(
[04:28] <riotkittie> preaction:  nope
[04:28] <professor> there is a way to put linux on your ipod
[04:28] <Evil_`> actually, I think i'll try to find out how
[04:28] <professor>  its pretty cool
[04:28] <omglazers> gyaresu: I run it and once I do the options it just ends with 'installlation of sk98lin driver module failed'
[04:28] <preaction> riotkittie: anything changed in your init since last it worked?
[04:29] <K3nto> Jarhead756: i know. this is my last ipod. im thinking about swithing to Zune when it comes out in canada
[04:29] <Jarhead756> professor: yes there is, also that rock box thing too, but aren't both supposed to greatly reduce battery life?
[04:29] <gyaresu> omglazers: are you using sudo?
[04:29] <phixnay> preaction: fajita's not on, I'll have to wait for later. is gnome vs kde also a holy war, or are they more relaxed
[04:29] <omglazers> gyaresu: Yup. Password and all
[04:29] <professor> dont know but I know that your memory is greatly expanded
[04:29] <professor> clear
[04:29] <Jarhead756> K3nto: i could be wrong, but aren't zunes supposed to be really bad? like not even being able to use as an external disk?
[04:29] <riotkittie> preaction: not that i know of. this is a recurring issue when i put my wireless card in.
[04:29] <Jordan_U> Evil_`: An easy thing to do with any program is just to create a user that only has access to it's own home folder and always run wine as that user
[04:29] <gyaresu> omglazers: 'less install.sh'
[04:29] <preaction> riotkittie: so removing the wireless card cures it?
[04:30] <lufi1> K3nto: why? just get an mp3 player that doesn't require you to use its own software to use it.
[04:30] <preaction> riotkittie: what type?
[04:30] <gyaresu> omglazers: check that the first line was changed to '#!/bin/bash'
[04:30] <Evil_`> Jordan_U, I'll try that :)
[04:30] <Taime1> WHEN I GO TO INSTALL ICONS, IT TELLS ME THAT THE FILE FORMAT IS INVALID? WHY IS THAT?
[04:30] <Taime1> sorry bout that
[04:30] <Evil_`> Jordan_U, how would I make it only have access to it's own home folder?
[04:30] <K3nto> Jarhead756: people got around that somehow. I believe the next generation of zunes will be reatly improved anyway (and simultaneously come to canada)
[04:30] <Jordan_U> !caps | Taime1
[04:30] <ubotu> Taime1: PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[04:30] <Taime1> my wep key is in caps
[04:30] <omglazers> gyaresu: ok ill do that
[04:30] <preaction> Taime1: are you trying to install windows .ico files?
[04:30] <K3nto> lufil: there arent any good one
[04:30] <Taime1> i apologized right after i did that
[04:30] <Jarhead756> lufi1: K3nto i like ipods, they are easily managable within linux if you give it some time.
[04:30] <Taime1> why dont you wait
[04:30] <riotkittie> preaction:  IIRC, i need to remove it and reboot.  its been a while since i've bothered with it tho, so i'm not sure . uhm the card is a d-link airplus
[04:31] <K3nto> lufil: besides, i like the seamless integration
[04:31] <Taime1> or  read it before you bark at me
[04:31] <Taime1> it was an honest mistake
[04:31] <preaction> riotkittie: you're removing physical hardware while the system is ON?
[04:31] <lufi1> K3nto: yeah. i dunno, i think it's kind of tyrannical to force users into using one app
[04:31] <sortadi> hey there
[04:31] <sortadi> one question
[04:31] <omglazers> gyaresu: It was changed
[04:31] <preaction> riotkittie: this isn't a hotplug device, is it? USB / Firewire?
[04:31] <phixnay> K3nto: or put rockbox on your mp3 player
[04:31] <sortadi> in which branch of debian is ubuntu based?
[04:31] <Jordan_U> Taime1: Sory, I thought you meant "sorry I had to do that" at first
[04:31] <gyaresu> omglazers: another thing you can do is check that the symbolic link /usr/src/linux is pointed at the right directory 'ls -l /usr/src/linux'. It should be the same as the output from 'uname -a'.
[04:31] <sortadi> the stable ubuntu release?
[04:31] <Taime1> anyway, no prob...it does look prett bad when i type in caps
[04:32] <Jordan_U> sortadi: Unstable I bleive
[04:32] <riotkittie> preaction: no, not removing hardware while the machine is on.             no, not usb/firewire. pcmcia.
[04:32] <Jarhead756> phixnay: is rockbox any good? how about on my ipod? what are the benifits of it?
[04:32] <K3nto> lufil: not if the app is a really good on, which itunes is
[04:32] <sortadi> isn't it testing?
[04:32] <Taime1> my wep key is in caps, it was the last thing i typed :/
[04:32] <jamaur> hey all, I'm looking for a video capture device that would work with an old video card, would the following do? http://www.adstech.com/products/USBAV-191-EF/sysreq/USBAV_191_req.asp?pid=USBAV-191-EF
[04:32] <Jarhead756> phixnay: i have a video 30gb
[04:32] <omglazers> gyaresu: This is what it says it fails 'check kernel header files (not found)'
[04:32] <K3nto> phixnay: will it go onto any mp3 player?
[04:32] <omglazers> gyaresu: Thats the only thing that fails
[04:32] <K3nto> !rockbox
[04:32] <ubotu> rockbox is an open source firmware replacement for MP3 players from Archos, iRiver, Apple (iPod), and iAudio.  See http://www.rockbox.org/ to get started!
[04:32] <omglazers> gyaresu: Says the kernel header isnt found and that I need to install it and make a symbolic link
[04:32] <Taime1> anyway, i am installing linux icons in the original uncompressed format
[04:33] <Taime1> but it keeps giving me that error about invalid format
[04:33] <CSVarg> Does anyone have any experience with Gateway laptops ?
[04:33] <gyaresu> omglazers: bugger. I thought this might be a problem. Can you see linux-headers-2.6.17-10-386 or something like it in '/usr/src/' ?
[04:33] <phixnay> Jarhead: from what I know, rockbox works pretty well on the hardware it supports. I wouldn't install it if I didn't know how to put the original software back though
[04:33] <Jordan_U> Taime1: Did you decompress it first ( if so it won't work ) ?
[04:33] <omglazers> gyaresu: Lemme go there
[04:33] <Taime1> did that , same problem
[04:33] <omglazers> gyaresu: the fail message says this part though:
[04:33] <Jarhead756> K3nto: do you use rockbox? if so on what?
[04:33] <riotkittie> i would suck it up and just pop my wired card back in BUT then i cant squeeze my usb card in. which means i either lose teh mouse and plug my external hd into a usb 1.1 hub, or keep the mouse and go from 411gb to 11gb :P
[04:33] <preaction> riotkittie: anything interesting in dmesg or boot.log ?
[04:33] <Jordan_U> Taime1: Where did you get it from?
[04:33] <K3nto> Jarhead756: i dont
[04:33] <riotkittie> brb. let me look.
[04:34] <Taime1> gnome look
[04:34] <omglazers> gyaresu: 'please install linux header file development package or create a symbolic link from the /usr/src/kernel_version directory to linux'
[04:34] <K3nto> but i have an old rca mp3 player that restarts itself repeatedly that i would like to fix
[04:34] <gyaresu> omglazers: You will probably need to manually get a couple of packages on the mac and manually install them. (It's easy)
[04:34] <omglazers> gyaresu: 'then it gives an example line or two to run'
[04:34] <omglazers> gyaresu: OK
[04:34] <gyaresu> omglazers: ignore all that.
[04:34] <Jordan_U> Taime1: You should literally be able to drag the link directly from gnome-look to the preferences and it should download it and install, I would try that
[04:35] <gyaresu> Can you please tell me if there are any folders when you 'ls -l /usr/src/'
[04:35] <omglazers> gyaresu: I went to the usr/src and I see two folders. both kernels
[04:35] <Mixx> i've got mythweb serving recorded programs as myth:\\<server>/recordings/<filename>.mpg so I can watch them via VLC on Windows.  Is there a way I can similarly associate the Myth:\\ protocol in Firefox with VLC on a separate linux box?
[04:35] <Taime1> to what preferences?
[04:35] <gyaresu> omglazers: Ooh. That's good.
[04:35] <Taime1> the install icon dialog?
[04:35] <omglazers> gyaresu: I think they're kernels? 'linux-headers2.6.17-10' and a second one named that with -generic at the end
[04:35] <gyaresu> omglazers: Yay!
[04:35] <aleska__> I just saw some back and forth about rockbox...I just installed it today on my iPod mini...so far I think I like it!
[04:36] <Jordan_U> Taime1: I don't know, I am stuck in OSx until someone helps me fix GRUB :)
[04:36] <ToddEDM> hello everyone
[04:36] <gyaresu> omglazers: 'cd /usr/src'
[04:36] <Taime1> ouch
[04:36] <cables> Jordan_U, OS X isn't a bad place to be :)
[04:36] <cables> Jordan_U, if that happened to me, I'd be on WinXP :(
[04:36] <ToddEDM> lol
[04:36] <omglazers> gyaresu: ok, which one next? generic or not?
[04:37] <lineman60> is there a gnome front end for GDB?
[04:37] <ToddEDM> heres a story someone might find humorous......
[04:37] <peeps> if I download a .dewb file directly, and it says it is for dapper, is there any reason it wouldn't work for edgy?
[04:37] <Jordan_U> Taime1: wait, I think the dragging directly may only work on art.gnome.com ( good site, I like it better than gnome-look )
[04:37] <peeps> *.deb*
[04:37] <peeps> lol
[04:37] <Taime1> i see
[04:37] <gyaresu> omglazers: What's happening here is we make a symbolic link called 'linux' pointed at the kernel-headers folder that matches the name of the kernel that you are currently running.
[04:37] <omglazers> gyaresu: OK
[04:37] <fiyawerx> hey guys, if you somehow remove yourself from sudoer group (friend did on ubuntu) can you readd yourself somehow?
[04:37] <gili> does
[04:38] <fiyawerx> and .. is gnomebaker or another app to burn iso's included with the default ubuntu install?
[04:38] <Jordan_U> fiyawerx: Yes,
[04:38] <omglazers> gyaresu: ln -s /usr/src/kernel /usr/src/linux ?
[04:38] <lineman60> fiyawex try reboot in grub type a (sspace)1
[04:38] <gyaresu> omglazers: You find out what kernel you're running with 'uname -a'
[04:38] <omglazers> gyaresu: generic version
[04:38] <Evil_`> how would I remove wine?
[04:39] <Jordan_U> fiyawerx: From the GUI just re-check the allow user to administrate ( or something like that ) box, or edit the sudoers file manually
[04:39] <lineman60> that should  boot you in single user mode
[04:39] <Jordan_U> Evil_`: sudo apt-get remove wine
[04:39] <Evil_`> thanks
[04:39] <gyaresu> omglazers: 'sudo ln -s linux-headers-2.6.17-10-generic linux' (if I got the right name for your headers folder...)
[04:39] <lineman60> as root, then just type passwd get a root password
[04:39] <fiyawerx> how bout the iso burning issue? what can you use in gnome on a default install?
[04:40] <omglazers> gyaresu: OK, lemme try it
[04:40] <sortadi> could anybody pleae make a /sysinfo?
[04:40] <gyaresu> omglazers: 'ls -l linux' should tell you where 'linux' is pointed at.
[04:40] <Jordan_U> fiyawerx: You can right click the iso and go to burn, or use cdrecord /path/to/iso from the terminal
[04:40] <ToddEDM> i installed ubuntu the other day, but i had no sound...... so after a few days trying to get drivers installed for the sound , and grafx card, i gave up, looked all night last night to find a good repalcement settled on edubuntu, WOW, the live CD has sound, and the grafx were working properly.... lets install it....DAMN stuck at 40%, tried a few times, then gave up..SO i downloaded mepis, looks ok... UHHH OHHH the fackin touchpad doesnt w
[04:41] <ToddEDM> back to install ubuntu
[04:41] <ToddEDM> :P
[04:41] <fiyawerx> thanks guys
[04:41] <omglazers> gyaresu: OK, I did it. I think it worked
[04:41] <SoftICE> ?
[04:41] <omglazers> gyaresu: Ok, I think it worked!
[04:41] <omglazers> gyaresu: Lemme try installing it again
[04:41] <ToddEDM> thats my lil story... hope someone gets a giggle
[04:41] <gyaresu> omglazers: change back to the DriverInstall directory and... Yeah that ^^ :)
[04:42] <a_lacsa> hello
[04:42] <riotkittie> preaction:  err. i dont seem to have a boot log :o
[04:42] <Jordan_U> ToddEDM: Are you following the wiki or a blog post? ( there are some bloggers that think they know a lot more than they do... )
[04:42] <riotkittie> and dmesg held no clue.
[04:42] <omglazers> YES
[04:42] <omglazers> YES
[04:42] <CSVarg> Is there any way to override a SETUP password on a Gateway laptop ?
[04:42] <omglazers> I CAME
[04:42] <omglazers> IT WORKED
[04:42] <tannerld> does anyone know how to fix http://www.rage3d.com/board/showthread.php?p=1334828689#post1334828689
[04:42] <omglazers> at least it installed!
[04:42] <omglazers> gyaresu: Do I have to restart? =-O
[04:43] <riotkittie> CSVarg: setup ... BIOS?
[04:43] <gyaresu> omglazers: No.
[04:43] <SoftICE> hi, am i already in, or need a register?
[04:43] <omglazers> gyaresu: I LOVE YOU
[04:43] <omglazers> gyaresu: Its there!!!
[04:43] <CSVarg> riot: yes
[04:43] <gyaresu> omglazers: I don't know if it 'modprobed' the kernel for you or not.
[04:43] <preaction> riotkittie: it's /var/log/boot, but it's just the output of init (which may be useful nonetheless)
[04:43] <omglazers> gyaresu: Google.com never looked so good!!!!
[04:43] <riotkittie> CSVarg: take the CMOS battery out for about two minutes and it will reset...
[04:43] <CSVarg> alright
[04:43] <CSVarg> thank you
[04:43] <gyaresu> omglazers: oh cool. Well I'd reboot to see whether the module is autoloaded or not.
[04:44] <gyaresu> omglazers: (congrats bye the way)
[04:44] <a_lacsa> hello, Im quite new to ubuntu. i am trying to find where i need to save the files for the website i am making. i already have apache2 installed but i cant find /htdocs. where is it?
[04:44] <omglazers> gyaresu: Thank you so goddamn much
[04:44] <ToddEDM> Jordan_U... i was just installing, and trying things out
[04:44] <firefly2442> a_lacsa: they're probably in /var/www/
[04:44] <omglazers> gyaresu: At least now that I have the internet I can learn linux properly, on the desktop
[04:44] <riotkittie> preaction: not there, i swear.
[04:44] <preaction> riotkittie: what version of ubuntu?
[04:44] <gyaresu> omglazers: Very welcome. Reboot the machine and let me know if it still works. I'll keep an I out for you .
[04:44] <riotkittie> preaction: dapper
[04:45] <preaction> riotkittie: ah, that might explain it. any problem with a dist-upgrade?
[04:45] <a_lacsa> @firefly: /var/www/ is read only in my view.. do i need to login as root?
[04:45] <cchance>  I get the error "The Share name was not valid or something to that extent with Samba accessing it over a windows 98 can some one help me resolve this or give me a sample config file? I have got it setup now for domain controll (ass you can see)
[04:45] <cchance> as*
[04:45] <armadill0> I've got this strange issue when I try to ALT+TAB between windows in KDE.  I'm using nvidia twinview for dual LCD, and I've noticed that my alt+tab "list" only shows the windows for that LCD, not the other (and visa versa)  How can I get my alt+tab to list all windows on the desktop?  thanks... its drivin me nuts
[04:46] <omglazers> gyaresu: I think it worked. Do I have to worry about video card drivers too ?
[04:46] <firefly2442> a_lacsa: you need to change the permissions so you can read and write to that directory
[04:46] <riotkittie> err. as in... upgrade to edgy?
[04:46] <Jordan_U> armadill0: #kubuntu may be more helpfull for KDE
[04:47] <firefly2442> a_lacsa: you can use chown username /path/todirectory/
[04:47] <gyaresu> omglazers: what gfx chip do you have?
[04:47] <firefly2442> a_lacsa: lemme dig up a tutorial for ya
[04:47] <a_lacsa> ok i will try that now firefly
[04:47] <cchance> logon home = \\homeserver\%U\winprofile
[04:47] <armadill0> Jordan_U;  good point, I'll give that a shot too
[04:47] <cchance> Is that correct
[04:47] <omglazers> gyaresu: 7900 nvidia gs
[04:47] <a_lacsa> ok thanks
[04:47] <gyaresu> !nvidia > omglazers
[04:48] <omglazers> gyaresu: Er? :|
[04:48] <gyaresu> !nvidia
[04:48] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[04:48] <omglazers> Yay
[04:48] <omglazers> :P
[04:48] <omglazers> Thanks
[04:48] <omglazers> im going to jump back on, on the desktop brb
[04:49] <riotkittie> brb. going to the forums. :o
[04:49] <firefly2442> a_lacsa: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=2121716
[04:49] <a_lacsa> thanks firefly. btw i tryed chown.. it gave an error: operation not permitted
[04:50] <firefly2442> a_lacsa: yeah, commandline is tricky, I would do "sudo nautilus" then go to the directory, right click to properties, and change the owership to you
[04:50] <Confuse> hi
[04:50] <cchance> I get the error "The Share name was not valid or something to that extent with Samba accessing it over a windows 98 can some one help me resolve this or give me a sample config file? I have got it setup now for domain controll (ass you can see)
[04:50] <Ramsed> Has "the powerpc community" a website where they release things, like the latest herd 5 for powerpc (I know it has been drop officially) ?
[04:51] <firefly2442> a_lacsa: in the permissions tab
[04:51] <a_lacsa> firefly: ok trying that now
[04:51] <Jordan_U> Ramsed: It's still going to be developed, just not supported
[04:52] <omglazers> !nvidia
[04:52] <Ramsed> Jordan_U: but where, I can't find a community website, https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-powerpc does not contain to much
[04:52] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[04:52] <gyaresu> omglazers: http://doc.gwos.org/index.php/Latest_Nvidia_Edgy This should do it.
[04:54] <cchance> Do i have to Yell to get some attention
[04:54] <cchance> Dont flatter me with the dang wait crap
[04:54] <gyaresu> !patience | cchance
[04:54] <ubotu> cchance: The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[04:55] <sloof3> Is it possible to use checkinstall to make a deb from a .bin
[04:55] <cchance> that relly ticks me off
[04:55] <cchance> hmm
[04:55] <cchance> their
[04:55] <omglazers> gyaresu: How do I make sure I have the universe and multiverse in the adept manager enabled?
[04:55] <gyaresu> !repos > omglazers
[04:56] <wolfspirit> is there any possible way to install kernel 2.6.20 via a repository for edgey?
[04:56] <cchance> I get the error "The Share name was not valid or something to that extent with Samba accessing it over a windows 98 can some one help me resolve this or give me a sample config file? I have got it setup now for domain controll (ass you can see)
[04:57] <gyaresu> wolfspirit: I think you have to build it from source and add all the patches yourself. It may well break more than it fixes
[04:57] <gyaresu> cchance: your client machine is win98?
[04:58] <cchance> gyaresu why does it matter? It still connects
[04:58] <riotkittie> arrgh :\
[04:58] <cchance> gyaresu it sees my machine but it cant find the users home directory
[04:58] <SoftICE> can anybody tell me how to configuration xchat? why the chars in every line is missing?
[04:58] <cchance> path = /home/
[04:58] <gyaresu> cchance: If you can't answer a clarifying question how is _anyone_ supposed to know what you are trying to achieve.
 you there?
[04:58] <omglazers> gyaresu: Worked perfectly. Thank you, god of linux :P
[04:59] <peeps> how do I uninstall a package that was installed via .deb?
[04:59] <gyaresu> omglazers: The prayer was aimed at the deity and not me right ;)
[04:59] <cchance> gyaresu, yes gyaresu it is
[04:59] <gyaresu> peeps: apt-get remove thing
[04:59] <omglazers> gyaresu: From what I hear, I now have to worship the penguin, so, I assum I meant tux :P
[04:59] <a_lacsa> firefly: ok now I was able to copy my website files to www. but when i tried to access localhost, it showed 403 forbidden. earlier it was working fine
[05:00] <firefly2442> a_lacsa: ok, now make sure the files you have in there have read access by everyone
[05:00] <gabz> !glxinfo
[05:00] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about glxinfo - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:00] <a_lacsa> ok lemme check that
[05:00] <omglazers> gyaresu: I gotta say though, after all of that.. Kubuntu doesnt seem as nice as Gnome.
[05:00] <gyaresu> cchance: Ok. Well win98 is crap at accessing smb shares so you have a problem there.
[05:00] <firefly2442> a_lacsa: read access should be given to you the group and finally others
[05:00] <riotkittie> anyone else want to take a stab at my nonexistant TTY issue? :P
[05:00] <omglazers> gyaresu: At least now I can do this again if I need to next time if I wanna install gome ubuntu
[05:00] <cchance> gyaresu, then why did i even try it.. i dont know why i do these things anyway
[05:01] <gyaresu> omglazers: Out of the box they're all annoying. Keep messing around with settings till you get something you like.
[05:01] <peeps> thanks gyaresu
[05:01] <cchance> gyaresu oh well
[05:01] <peeps> didn't think that would work if it wasn't installed via apt-get
[05:01] <omglazers> gyaresu: Ill figure it out. :D
[05:01] <gyaresu> cchance: I assume that was rhetorical?
[05:01] <firefly2442> a_lacsa: it's in the permissions section that you just changed :)
[05:01] <SoftICE> Confuse:?
[05:02] <a_lacsa> ok
[05:02] <cchance> gyaresu, i dont want to go into my bros computer messing this up, just so that i have to call some one out here to repair it
[05:02] <gyaresu> omglazers: I use fluxbox as my manager because I set hotkeys to launch all the apps i use and it makes the whole thing very minimalist which is what I personally prefer.
[05:02] <shulman> how do I install edgy onto a RAID1?
[05:02] <cchance> this /s/ngs
[05:02] <Mixx> i've got mythweb serving recorded programs as myth:\\<server>/recordings/<filename>.mpg so I can watch them via VLC on Windows.  Is there a way I can similarly associate the Myth:\\ protocol in Firefox with VLC on a separate linux box?
[05:02] <riotkittie> win 98 ? dear god.
[05:03] <riotkittie> fluxbox <3
[05:03] <omglazers> gyaresu: Fluxbox huh? Ill google it
[05:03] <firefly2442> Mixx: Preferences->Downloads->View and Edit Actions ? this is under 1.5
[05:03] <gyaresu> cchance: You need to take a break my friend. Your frustration is palpable. Come back in a minute with a good outline of what you want to acheive and some well phrased questions and we'll see what we can do.
[05:03] <riotkittie> argh. i might as well boot back into xp. this sucks.
[05:04] <gyaresu> omglazers: omglazers welcome to the world of FLOSS. Anythings possible :)
[05:04] <omglazers> gyaresu: =-O oh noes.
[05:05] <riotkittie> i need to finetune my keys file :D
[05:05] <omglazers> brb
[05:05] <Turner> how do I install a SMP kernel?
[05:06] <gyaresu> Turner: apt-cache search SMP
[05:06] <Turner> linux-686-smp is already the newest version.
[05:06] <Turner> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 1 not upgraded.
[05:06] <Turner> root@Mordor:/home/turner# uname -a
[05:06] <Turner> Linux Mordor 2.6.17-11-386 #2 Thu Feb 1 19:50:13 UTC 2007 i686 GNU/Linux
[05:06] <Turner> hm
[05:06] <riotkittie> argh. i keep hitting ALT CTRL F7 and... realizing im in X. i want my TTYs back. excuse me while i cry like a girl :D
[05:07] <firefly2442> Turner: is that the 1 not upgraded?
[05:08] <gyaresu> Turner: 'cat /proc/cpuinfo'
[05:08] <a_lacsa> firefly: hmm still error 403.. what am i doing wrong? i did all that you said..
[05:08] <firefly2442> a_lacsa: is the /var/www/ directory accessable to everyone with read privileges?
[05:09] <Turner> yeah, only shows one processor
[05:09] <Turner> going to try and reinstall 686-smp
[05:10] <firefly2442> a_lacsa: can you tell me what it says when you do properties on the /var/www/ folder?
[05:10] <a_lacsa> firefly: oh that what i did wrong.. i only changed the permissions in the files.. not the folder. it working now
[05:10] <a_lacsa> thanks very much firefly!
[05:10] <cwill1> anyone have any experience with prevu?
[05:11] <firefly2442> a_lacsa: you bet, have fun with apache :)
[05:11] <xtknight> are there any programs that can wrap a very simple, one-file usb windows driver for use in linux?  sorta like ndiswrapper but for a usb communication device (colorimeter)...
[05:11] <gyaresu> Turner: "linux-686-smp - Obsoleted by: linux-image-generic"
[05:11] <a_lacsa> firefly: thanks! will do
[05:11] <steelb> are there any ikaruga type games for linux?
[05:12] <catchjosh> Anyone running Edgy on a Lenovo T Series?
[05:12] <eck> xtknight: i don't think so. there's a good chance you can find some code or a driver online, otherwise you have to go with a vm
[05:13] <JamesBee1> hello
[05:13] <xtknight> eck: i was thinking that.  unfortunately, the VMware drivers don't allow gamma adjustment so the colorimeter software won't work, to my knowledge...not sure though i should still be able to grab the icm it outputs and use it
[05:13] <lastnode_> hi JamesBee1
[05:13] <eck> i would imagine that a colorimeter is pretty simple and there is already a driver for it
[05:13] <xtknight> eck: sadly, not for linux.  i may try to make my own driver for it
[05:13] <JamesBee1> anyone ever play savage?
[05:13] <SoftICE> JamesBee1:hello
[05:13] <xtknight> eck: it seems like a very simple concept...just communicating with a serial device, right?
[05:13] <JamesBee1> !savage
[05:13] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about savage - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:14] <eck> xtknight: it _seems_ simple, but i've never written a driver before, so who knows
[05:14] <eshaase> does ubuntu's installer support setting up a system with lvm?
[05:14] <eck> you can probably find a driver for another one and modify it for the device you have, if you are willing to do some hacking
[05:14] <omglazers> Hey gyaresu, im trying method #2 and im on step #4 (
[05:14] <omglazers> 4) Press CTRL-ALT-F1 (so as to get to the command line, not a windowed terminal, but out of the graphical interface GUI)
[05:14] <omglazers> login with your username and password (if required)
[05:14] <catchjosh> Better question -- anyone having trouble running the Live CD on any recent IBM / Lenovo notebook?
[05:14] <omglazers> Shit sorry I didnt know it would do that
[05:14] <omglazers> Err, anyways, its not working and I have no idea why. Im using the Konsole (since im in kubuntu)
[05:14] <firefly2442> eshaase: yes, but I think you need the alternative ISO for that
[05:14] <gyaresu> omglazers: s'aight.
[05:15] <JamesBee1> i have a problem with a game's sound and i'm pretty new to the OS. can anyone help?
[05:15] <eshaase> firefly2442: alternative iso?
[05:15] <eck> catchjosh: i didn't when i installed edgy
[05:15] <eshaase> firefly2442: how does that differ from the original one?
[05:15] <gireesh> how do you enable nvidia in UBuntu? nvidia-glx enable?
[05:15] <gyaresu> omglazers: Did you update you repos list and then upgrade?
[05:15] <catchjosh> Eck: Thanks for the response. Did you try the Live CD or just straight install?
[05:15] <JamesBee1> there's no ubuntu games channel is there?
[05:15] <firefly2442> eshaase: it provides RAID support, and I think also LVM
[05:15] <a_lacsa> just worndering.. is there an opensource messenger that can connect to yahoo messenger and will allow you to view webcams and do voice chat?
[05:15] <eshaase> how closely does ubuntu follow debian's policies for file management (/etc, etc.)?
[05:16] <gireesh> a_lacsa: kopete
[05:16] <catchjosh> Eck: I've got a variety of 'buntu boxes, but this is the first time I've tried it on a lappy.
[05:16] <omglazers> gyaresu: Pretty sure I did. I followed that link, enabled the two universes, added multiverse to the ends of each and reupdated
[05:16] <eck> catchjosh: i think i used the live cd (might have been the netinstall though)
[05:16] <cwill1> prevu is the bain of my existence right now:  I've got a dependency installed that _is_ the right version, but it keeps detecting an older version, and saying the package can't be installed because of it.  help!
[05:16] <a_lacsa> ok gireesh thanks. ill look for it
[05:16] <omglazers> gyaresu: Reran the fetch, all fetched.
[05:16] <catchjosh> eck: if you don't mind me asking, what model are you on?
[05:16] <gyaresu> omglazers: Did you 'upgrade' as well?
[05:16] <eck> catchjosh: i did have a problem with the live cd a while back (breezy i think)
[05:16] <eck> x40
[05:16] <omglazers> gyaresu: Upgrade? Sorry, I dont think so?
[05:16] <gireesh> how do I enable NVidia from the command line?
[05:16] <eshaase> stability-wise, am i better of going with dapper drake or edgy eft?
[05:16] <gyaresu> gireesh: Have you followed the !nvidia
[05:16] <omglazers> gyaresu: Sorry :(
[05:17] <catchjosh> eck: Any install issues? (Besides ATI drivers, the normal, etc.)
[05:17] <gyaresu> omglazers: no problem.
[05:17] <firefly2442> eshaase: yep http://ubuntu-releases.cs.umn.edu//6.06/ see the alternative section
[05:17] <eshaase> firefly2442: ok, thanks
[05:17] <gireesh> gyaresu: yeah I used my normal install procedure
[05:17] <JamesBee1> anyone know how to install a better audio driver than the one that came prepackaged with the OS? (i believe i have an intel on board soundcard)
[05:17] <sm0k3d> hey guys
[05:17] <a_lacsa> gireesh: kopete seems to be for kde. i am using gnome.. can it still work?
[05:17] <gireesh> but I get a screen not found error
[05:17] <gireesh> a_lacsa: I dont see why not
[05:17] <eshaase> firefly2442: stability-wise, am i better of going with dapper drake or edgy eft?
[05:17] <eck> catchjosh: no. as i said, with breezy there was a problem where the screen would black out during the middle of the install (!), but other than that i haven't had any issues
[05:17] <a_lacsa> gireesh: ok thanks very much. will try that
[05:18] <gyaresu> omglazers: You can tell that I only use the cli. So my command knowledge is focused there (helps when you have no xserver running as well)
[05:18] <firefly2442> eshaase: I would go with Edgy personally, but they're both good
[05:18] <K3nto> !webcam
[05:18] <gireesh> a_lacsa: a biiger challenge is going to be to get your webcam enabled and working
[05:18] <ubotu> Instructions for using webcams with Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam - Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras
[05:18] <catchjosh> eck: Okay, thanks very much. You've been a great help.
[05:18] <JamesBee1> !sound
[05:18] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[05:18] <eshaase> firefly2442: ok, thanks again
[05:18] <a_lacsa> gireesh: ahh hehe ok :D
[05:18] <gireesh> !nvidia
[05:18] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[05:18] <gyaresu> gireesh: Did you have nvidia drivers running? Did you just upgrade your kernel? Do you still have a window manager running?
[05:18] <gireesh> gyaresu: yes I just upgraded kernel
[05:19] <gireesh> I rebooted and promptly the x-server failed
[05:19] <eck> gyaresu: you only use the cli? don't you think that's a bit extreme?!
[05:19] <sm0k3d> i just have a quick question... i am going to install ubuntu to make a server, would kubuntu or xubuntu or edubuntu be *better or easyer* for me learning linux and how to make a server
[05:19] <gyaresu> gireesh: "Every time you change or upgrade your kernel you will have to reinstall the Nvidia driver, no matter which method you used to install the driver."
[05:19] <gyaresu> gireesh: http://doc.gwos.org/index.php/Latest_Nvidia_Edgy
[05:19] <eck> sm0k3d: you won't want X at all on a serer
[05:19] <gireesh> sm0k3d: the base is all the same
[05:19] <catchjosh> sm0k3d: My experience with the standard Ubuntu Server install has always been easy.
[05:20] <sm0k3d> ok so regular ubuntu is the way to go
[05:20] <firefly2442> Will Feisty have spellcheck built into Firefox by default?
[05:20] <catchjosh> sm0k3d: After install, I just run sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[05:20] <eck> sm0k3d: just use any of them on the desktop for a while and after you are comfortable use the server install
[05:20] <gyaresu> sm0k3d: Have you installed linux before?
[05:20] <arfy> hi all. Where can I find out about how to do package admin from the command line/gnome-term? i.e, apt manuals?
[05:20] <gireesh> wow that is terrible
[05:20] <gyaresu> sm0k3d: What type of services are you trying to setup?
[05:20] <catchjosh> sm0k3d: Then you have all the benefits of the desktop, and a nice LAMP stack with zero configuration required.
[05:20] <sm0k3d> um no
[05:20] <lanaz> goodmorning ;)
[05:20] <eck> arfy: yes, the man pages
[05:20] <omglazers> gyaresu: So what should I be doing then?  Maybe just resend the link and I missed something there?
[05:20] <eck> the online docs are good too
[05:20] <misfit_toy> 936 people in an IRC channel is insane
[05:21] <sm0k3d> i want to learn more about server, how to set them up and how to use/maintain them (ftp, http, game servers, etc.)
[05:21] <catchjosh> sm0k3d: I take it you are on Windows?
[05:21] <papai> u
[05:21] <eck> sm0k3d: you won't learn anything very useful about that from gnome/kde/xfce
[05:21] <papai> oi
[05:21] <exs> anyone using feisty? if so, how is it saping up?
[05:21] <sm0k3d> right now? this is my laptop
[05:21] <gyaresu> sm0k3d: You will benefit from a desktop if you've never installed linux before for many reasons. One of which is that people trying to help you can also point you to some Graffical User Interface tools.
[05:21] <exs> shaping*
[05:21] <gireesh> exs I am
[05:21] <papai> brasil?
[05:22] <K3nto> !webcam
[05:22] <gyaresu> omglazers: http://doc.gwos.org/index.php/Latest_Nvidia_Edgy
[05:22] <ubotu> Instructions for using webcams with Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam - Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras
[05:22] <james296> does anyone know where to find the default fonts.conf file for Edgy Eft?
[05:22] <misfit_toy> !compiz
[05:22] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[05:22] <interstellar_ove>  maybe someone can help me out - this is the problem that i'm having but i'm a ubuntu user - https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=171453&x=20&y=6&=Find
[05:22] <gyaresu> omglazers: I don't know which bit you were up to.
[05:22] <scan_> how do I go from a usb keyboard to a ps2 keyboard?
[05:22] <sm0k3d> gyaresu: so i shouldnt install ubuntu server, but the desktop one?
[05:22] <eck> james296: do you know about the locate command?
[05:22] <papai> alguem do brasil?
[05:22] <gyaresu> scan_: Just reboot with PS2 in the machine.
[05:22] <omglazers> gyaresu: I mean, the package multi/uni part
[05:22] <gireesh> man!! Ubuntu needs a GUI configuration for 3D drivers
[05:23] <papai> breyl
[05:23] <james296> dont think it works since I didnt create a backup...
[05:23] <papai> beryl
[05:23] <scan_> my usb keyboard is going bad
[05:23] <papai> ?
[05:23] <gyaresu> sm0k3d: You will find it easier but it's not necessary. You will just need to learn to drive everything from the command line.
[05:23] <catchjosh> sm0k3d: I don't think there is a combined Desktop / Server install...
[05:23] <sm0k3d> im so confused
[05:23] <catchjosh> sm0k3d: As I said, if you can get it installed trhough the server, you just type in sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop , and you have the full GUI.
[05:23] <eck> james296: it's in /etc/fonts, but in the future you should just use locate or find to find out where it is
[05:23] <sm0k3d> ok so i should install the server, cuz the desktop version ill need to learn the command anyway?
[05:24] <sm0k3d> ah ok
[05:24] <eck> james296: it's also documented in the man page
[05:24] <lanaz> unix isnt hard, just they are different.. ;) windows makes lamers form pplz, they dont need to think :D
[05:24] <lanaz> i am right ?
[05:24] <catchjosh> sm0k3d: There's a balance... the Desktop version is quite easy to install, but then you have to get the server stuff set up for you. The Server version sets up all your server stuff, but then you have to install the Desktop stuff. :)
[05:24] <firefly2442> lanaz: word
[05:24] <gyaresu> omglazers: here's mine as an example: http://gyaresu.org/sources.list
[05:24] <sm0k3d> ok
[05:24] <eck> lanaz: unix makes some lamers too :-/
[05:25] <sm0k3d> thanks for the help guys
[05:25] <lanaz> i made by windows ^^
[05:25] <sm0k3d> o 1 last question, is there like a ubuntu handbook?
[05:25] <james296> actually, I heard ppl say they had font problems fixed by removing fonts.conf and restart, how can I get that back?
[05:25] <firefly2442> eck: lamers on the way to becoming masters ;)
[05:25] <gyaresu> sm0k3d: help.ubuntu.com
[05:25] <firefly2442> sm0k3d: www.ubuntuguide.org
[05:25] <sm0k3d> ok thanks
[05:26] <gyaresu> sm0k3d: FYI: remember to preface what you say with the persons nick.
[05:26] <gyaresu> !ubuntuguide
[05:26] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ubuntuguide - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:26] <gyaresu> !ubuntuguide.org
[05:26] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ubuntuguide.org - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:27] <peeps> does anyone know what package I would find "makeinfo" in?
[05:27] <eck> sm0k3d: there is handbook included in the desktop install
[05:27] <james296> well? how do I get fonts.conf back?
[05:27] <eck> system > help and support
[05:27] <eck> james296: did you delete it?
[05:27] <james296> yes...I did
[05:27] <firefly2442> night all
[05:28] <eck> james296: i'll pastebin mine for you
[05:28] <GaiaX11> sm0k3d: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Edgy
[05:28] <james296> thnx :d
[05:28] <eck> there's some way to regenerate it with fontconfig, but i don't know how well that works
[05:28] <Taime1> i installed k3b, but when i go to burn a cd, it tells me that it doesnt have permissions to burn...i go to run k3bsetup, and it says it cant find the module...why is that ?
[05:28] <james296> is it the default though?
[05:28] <bibek> whats the difference between "apt-get source sth" and "apt-get install sth-dev"
[05:29] <lanaz> lamme question : is there any compination of keys, that show desktop, like on widnows win+m ?
[05:29] <eck> james296: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8327/
[05:29] <peeps> nevermind, the answer is texinfo
[05:29] <Taime1> anyone in here use k3b?
[05:30] <gyaresu> Taime1: Aye.
[05:30] <eck> lanaz: in gnome the bottom left corner button does that, you can also configure a keybinding for it if you like
[05:30] <hollar> cool
[05:30] <arfy> bibek: apt-get blah source downloads the full source code, where as apt-get blah-dev is just the development libs and include files usually, afaik.
[05:30] <dankistheman> nice
[05:30] <Taime1> i cant get k3bsetup to run so that ican burn a cd
[05:30] <Taime1> what gives?
[05:30] <gyaresu> Taime1: Sounds like a strange problem. If you run the setup (or K3b) from a command line then you get more verbose messages.
[05:30] <Taime1> well, i get cant find module
[05:31] <bibek> arfy, oh thatn means
[05:31] <lanaz> eck, thanks, ill configure it ;) sorry for broken english ...
[05:31] <gyaresu> Taime1: Can you run k3bsetup from a terminal please.
[05:31] <bibek> arfy, -dev files are for other programs while soure files are the program themselves
[05:31] <bibek> ?
[05:31] <exs> How is feisty shaping u? anyone using it?
[05:31] <hollar> cool
[05:31] <JamesBee1> can anyone help with an ingame sound issue
[05:31] <eck> exs: it's pretty much like edgy, but with newer packages and a lot more bugs
[05:32] <Taime1> you want me to pasthere?
[05:32] <Taime1> pastehere*
[05:32] <arfy> it's looking promising, with gnome 2.18 set to be default, and also accessibility for blind/visually impared uses it improved.
[05:32] <gyaresu> !pastebin | Taime1
[05:32] <ubotu> Taime1: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[05:32] <Taime1> i knoe how to paste
[05:32] <Taime1> that wasnt my question
[05:32] <papai> bgb
[05:32] <dankistheman> here i am
[05:32] <brussel> in the top display it shows the following users: brussel (me), root, dhcp, mysql, postgres, haldaemo, messageb.  Does anybody know what haldaemo and messageb are?
[05:32] <Taime1> do you want the output?
[05:33] <papai> alo
[05:33] <gireesh> HAL daemon and Messagebus
[05:33] <Dr_willis> hal - hardware abastraction layer
[05:33] <Dr_willis> i think :)
[05:33] <brussel> thanks dr_willis
[05:33] <gyaresu> Taime1: If you know how to paste then why are you asking me?
[05:33] <papai> hrlp beryl
[05:33] <gireesh> wasnt there going to be a failsafe video mode in Feisty?
[05:33] <papai> help beryl
[05:33] <gyaresu> Taime1: if it's one line then sure, paste here.
[05:33] <ToddEDM> whatchu talkinbout Willis
[05:33] <Taime1> that wasnt my question
[05:33] <gyaresu> Taime1: If it's 20 lines then pastebin.
[05:33] <Taime1> iasked if you wanted me to "pastehere"
[05:33] <Taime1> as in pastehere.com
[05:33] <gyaresu> Taime1: ^^
[05:35] <hollar> dank?
[05:35] <JamesBee1> i have choppy sound in a game. the game doesn't list a driver under driver in options. does anyone know what i can try to do?
[05:35] <Taime1> here is my "pastehere" link:  http://pastehere.com/?jkaqfn
[05:35] <lanaz> hem, fonts looks smoother on ubuntu than on windows ;)
[05:36] <Dr_willis> JamesBee1,  what game?
[05:36] <JamesBee1> savage
[05:36] <papai> brasil?
[05:36] <meezyfuh> hey. i am using the new ubuntu on a laptop. when i began closing my laptop (it wasn't even closed all the way yet) i think ubuntu restarted. my desktop went away and i got the unbuntu 'login'  screen again. what happened?
[05:36] <Dr_willis> JamesBee1,  interesting.. that game plays decently well on my system and my creative audigy card.. fun game. :)
[05:36] <eck> !pt
[05:36] <ubotu> pt is Por favor use #ubuntu-br  ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigado.
[05:36] <riotkittie> I'm using a laptop. I recently got an external hard drive, which necessitated the purchase of a PCMCIA usb card, which necessitates I use wireless over my wired connection because the wireless card fits with the usb card, while the wired doesn't. Anyway, on to my point.
[05:36] <papai> alguen do brasil?
[05:37] <Dr_willis> meezyfuh,  just a guess.. tried to suspend and the X drivers crashed.
[05:37] <meezyfuh> Dr_willis: is there a way i can fix that?
[05:37] <meezyfuh> if that indeed is what caused it.
[05:37] <Dr_willis> meezyfuh,  prove wht happened first.. and it depends on your video card.
[05:38] <sm0k3d> gyaresu: i have a question on the server install, it is asking me if i want to install DNS server or LAMP server. which is just like ftp, http, etc. server?  im looking in the help.unbuntu.com but i dont see anything that can shed any light on eather one.
[05:38] <Dr_willis> meezyfuh,  some drivers just have issues with 'suspending'
[05:38] <meezyfuh> Dr_willis: i'm going to try to duplicate it.
[05:38] <gyaresu> Taime1: 'k3b -v'
[05:38] <JamesBee1> dr-willis - is the speech in game prerecorded or are people using mics? I cant tell cause of the choppiness and im new to the game.
[05:38] <eck> sm0k3d: if you don't know what lamp or dns are, you don't need either
[05:38] <Dr_willis> JamesBee1,  speech? i never heard no speech.. you refering to savage 1 or 2?
[05:39] <JamesBee1> 1
[05:39] <JamesBee1> it seems like people are saying stuff, but again its really hard to tell cause its broken
[05:39] <gyaresu> sm0k3d: eck He may want all of them... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LAMP_(software_bundle)
[05:39] <Dr_willis> JamesBee1,  i dont recall any speech in savage 1.
[05:39] <eck> sm0k3d: just to the base install, and then install what you need after that as you go
[05:39] <meezyfuh> Dr_willis: thx for your help, if i can ever duplicate it i will return!
[05:39] <Taime1> Qt: 3.3.6    KDE: 3.5.5    K3b: 0.12.17
[05:39] <Dr_willis> JamesBee1,  not that i played it a lot...
[05:40] <Dr_willis> JamesBee1,  let me load it and see.
[05:40] <gyaresu> Taime1: Yeah.  When I have the wireless card in, tty7 functions as it should but tty 1-6 will not come up. while i don't mind using X, i prefer operating outside of it. and being stuck in X grows grating. anyone have any ideas?
[05:40] <Taime1> no, havent tried that dpkg-reconfigure
[05:41] <sm0k3d> gyaresu: ahh ok, and what would DNS do for me?
[05:41] <Odd_Bloke> How can I check what files are owned by a particular package?
[05:41] <james296> ok...someone plz help me out and go to this link, its supposed to  bring me to a HowTo site, but it doesnt...
[05:41] <james296> http://gaming.gwos.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=126&Itemid=63
[05:41] <riotkittie> sigh. at this rate, maybe i should just suck it up and start spending more time in xp :\
[05:41] <eck> riotkittie: that is just strange
[05:41] <james296> HACKED BY iSKORPiTX
[05:41] <james296> thats what it says...
[05:41] <gyaresu> sm0k3d: Handy if you want to 'resolve domainnames' from your server rather than using your ISP's DNS 'server'.
[05:42] <eck> you can't switch to a vt?
[05:42] <Dr_willis> JamesBee1,  hmm - getting no sound at all.. i think i unplugged my speaners when i moved my desk. :()
[05:42] <eck> i think there's a vtswitch command or somethign
[05:42] <JamesBee1> hehe
[05:42] <sm0k3d> gyaresu: ok, thanks for your help
[05:42] <gyaresu> sm0k3d: If you are installing on a spare machine you might want to check out a guide that you can follow from howtoforge. I'll find a link.
[05:42] <dr-tofu> i've been using ubuntu for a good few weeks now, and love it, but today i turned on my laptop and it won't get past the loading screen.
[05:42] <dr-tofu> i have no idea why
[05:43] <Odd_Bloke> dr-tofu: Check if you have anything in your CD/DVD drive.
[05:43] <riotkittie> eck:  i can ALT + CTRL + FKey but all i get is a black screen with nothing beyond a blinking cursor
[05:43] <eck> riotkittie: chvt
[05:43] <omglazers> Anyone know how to go to the TTY in kubuntu?
[05:43] <eck> riotkittie: are your getties running?
[05:43] <Dr_willis> dr-tofu,  disable the splash screen, (with nosplash) and perhaps use 'nofb' to disable the loading splash screen and see what error messages are showing up
[05:43] <JamesBee1> !HDA
[05:43] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about hda - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:43] <riotkittie> eck:  no. theyre not. is there some command i can use to get them running ?
[05:44] <dr-tofu> Dr_willis: in grub?
[05:44] <JamesBee1> anyone know if i there are better sound drivers available?
[05:44] <james296> shute, the whole site gaming.gwos.org says its been hacked :-((
[05:44] <eck> riotkittie: try starting one from your X session, i think it will work
[05:44] <gyaresu> omglazers: 'ctr+alt+F2(F3 etc.)
[05:44] <sm0k3d> gyaresu: yea im installing on a semi-old computer that isnt really used, also i just finished installing the ubuntu on the box.
[05:44] <Dr_willis> dr-tofu,  yep edit the grub kernel= line and use 'nosplash' and 'nofb'
[05:45] <omglazers> gyaresu: Both of those just change my virtual desktops
[05:45] <eck> riotkittie: something like: /sbin/getty 38400 tty1
[05:45] <Dr_willis> dr-tofu,  i always set those to be the defaults - i HATE that silly loading animation jusst for the reason iot can make trouble shooting hard.
[05:45] <mister_roboto> omglazers: you mean a console?
[05:45] <exs> how do I explore firefoxes cache?
[05:45] <omglazers> mister_roboto: I mean the black and white classic TTY interface
[05:45] <gyaresu> omglazers: 'alt+F2' should but with the control button as well...
[05:45] <eck> virtual terminal
[05:46] <mister_roboto> ctl-alt-f1 through f6
[05:46] <mister_roboto> f7 gets you back to X
[05:46] <omglazers> Doesn't work
[05:46] <riotkittie> eck: executed that. only change is that instead of the blinking cursor, tty1 is now completely black
[05:46] <eck> riotkittie: try stracing it
[05:46] <dr-tofu> ok so if i run grub with nosplash and nofb it will load just fine [in text mode]  but it won't work otherwise.
[05:46] <mister_roboto> omglazers: doesn't work how? what happens when you do it?
[05:47] <eck> see if it looks normal
[05:47] <omglazers> mister_roboto: ctrl+alt f1-f4 just changes virtual desktops
[05:47] <Dr_willis> dr-tofu,  the nosplash and nofb - will let you see the error messages
[05:47] <Dr_willis> dr-tofu,  it may be just scannidn the disks and taking a long time
[05:47] <omglazers> FUCK
[05:47] <omglazers> Sorry
[05:47] <omglazers> I got it to work
[05:47] <omglazers> My RIGHT alt+ctrl werent doing it
[05:47] <omglazers> But it worked on my left one
[05:48] <mister_roboto> omglazers:  :)   oh well, at least you got it
[05:48] <dr-tofu> Dr_willis: it never took this long before, but i tried leaving it also
[05:48] <gyaresu> sm0k3d: http://www.howtoforge.com/perfect_setup_ubuntu_6.10_p2 or http://www.howtoforge.com/ubuntu_debian_lamp_server
[05:48] <omglazers> Weird. Must be my keyboard
[05:48] <eck> err, if you want to be pedeantic you only need to press ctrl when you are in X
[05:48] <mister_roboto> omglazers: or just some keyboard mapping you have set up
[05:48] <mister_roboto> eck: thanks!
[05:48] <omglazers> mister_roboto: Possible.  :P
[05:49] <spasticteapot> Does anyone know how to turn a folder into a .zip?
[05:49] <eck> omglazers: that is normal behavior
[05:49] <spasticteapot> Or BZ2 or whatever.
[05:49] <dr-tofu> omglazers: that happens to me for key commands in gnome, i can't do right-alt+back to go back in firefox, for example
[05:49] <eck> the kernel makes a distinction between the keys
[05:49] <eck> i think it's one of those legacy unix things that ought to be changed but never will
[05:50] <riotkittie> eck: i cannot thank you enough. youre teh first person to give me a solution in the ~3 months i've been asking that question.
[05:50] <eck> riotkittie: np
[05:50] <eck> riotkittie: they should be set to start in your inittab though
[05:51] <dr-tofu> gnome starts just fine when i boot with nosplash and nofb, then do startx, but if i use my normal setup, the "ubuntu" screen comes up, the progress bar does its thing then the screen goes blank and sits there for hours if i let it..
[05:52] <daft_> hoi
[05:52] <daft_> how can i check what version of a display driver im currently running from the console?
[05:52] <riotkittie> ahh. i feel so much more less naked now.
[05:52] <eck> weird, i guess ubuntu doesn't have an inittab
[05:52] <eck> riotkittie: but i am curious -- what is wrong with an xterm?
[05:54] <DarkX> Hey all, im just wondering has any1 sucessfully ran the dpkg install for HP OpenIPMI
[05:54] <DarkX> cuz im getting compile errors when it trys to compile kern modules
[05:54] <daft_> can anyone help please - I need to know whether im running the proprietary ATI drivers or the stock ones - how can I check it?
[05:55] <DarkX> since im using ubuntu-server on my other box was hoping i could use ubuntu-server and not debian on my Compaq DL380 server
[05:55] <Black^Dragon> got a question
[05:55] <DarkX> but so far im not having any lucky
[05:56] <Black^Dragon> trying to install kvirc on ubuntu
[05:56] <Black^Dragon> getting this error message
[05:56] <Black^Dragon> checking for gcc... gcc
[05:56] <Black^Dragon> checking for C compiler default output file name... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables
[05:56] <Black^Dragon> See `config.log' for more details.
[05:56] <Black^Dragon> root@knightcrawler:/home/knightcrawler/kvirc-3.2.0#
[05:56] <Black^Dragon> anyone got an answer??
[05:56] <eck> DarkX: i don't know anything about your question per se, but i would find it odd if it compiles against the debian kernel but not the ubuntu kernel
[05:56] <DarkX> yeah try apt-get install build-essential
[05:56] <DarkX> ;)
[05:57] <kitche> !paste | Black^Dragon
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[05:57] <DarkX> eck: thats what i thought....
[05:57] <Black^Dragon> in the same directory DarkX
[05:57] <Black^Dragon> very very new ti linux
[05:57] <DarkX> Black^Dragon, yea...it will just install GCC G++ and bunch of other stuff needed for compiling
[05:57] <Black^Dragon> ok thank you
[05:57] <gyaresu> Black^Dragon: Have you got the package build-essential installed?
[05:58] <Black^Dragon> new install, and trying to get away from xchat
[05:58] <gyaresu> DarkX: Yeah what you said ^^ :)
[05:58] <riotkittie> eck: err. that's a tough one.
[05:58] <eck> DarkX: i guess you could download an older kernel and see if you can build it against that, and just live with something a little more ancient
[05:58] <larrydavid> can anyone help please - I need to know whether im running the proprietary ATI drivers or the stock ones - how can I check it?
[05:58] <gyaresu> larrydavid: glxinfo
[05:58] <kitche> larrydavid: glxinfo in a terminal
[05:58] <DarkX> eck: HP released a NetInst for SARGE 2.6 kernel...with drivers built into the cd
[05:58] <larrydavid> ta
[05:59] <DarkX> so i may try that ocne i go get some cdrs from walmart
[05:59] <lanaz> lol, upnp isnt working on utorrent, but i still get 4Mb/s upload ;)
[05:59] <eck> DarkX: get the sarge kernel dpkg and install that ;-)
[05:59] <larrydavid> uff bloody mesa
[05:59] <gyaresu> larrydavid: glxinfo |grep ati
[05:59] <riotkittie> eck: i suppose it's not so much there being anything wrong with xterms as it is not seeing a point of running X if all i'm doing is using a term. and for some reason, just finding it easier to keep things seperated.
[05:59] <DarkX> eck: im not so good with DPKG, what do you mean sarge kernel dpkg?
[05:59] <eck> riotkittie: and use an 80 character console?!
[06:00] <_Krull_> Yo everyone
[06:00] <lanaz> Hi
[06:00] <DarkX> next up is to install Ubuntu or Deb on my Sparc 10s and 5s :P
[06:00] <DarkX> thatll be a blow out...
[06:00] <eck> DarkX: just find the sarge kernel .deb and install that, if you're not doing anything too fancy i doubt any of the programs that ubuntu is running will require a really new kernel
[06:00] <Black^Dragon> thank you DarkX, thats installing now
[06:01] <eck> well probably udev
[06:01] <eck> and maybe hal
[06:01] <DarkX> eck: im going to be running VMWare server
[06:01] <DarkX> for running VPS's for clients
[06:01] <DarkX> :s
[06:01] <DarkX> which makes its own kerenel modules
[06:01] <DarkX> *kernel
[06:01] <riotkittie> id probably be more prone to using terms in x if xorg would recognize my card as dual head and let me bask in the beauty of dual screens
[06:02] <eck> well, it's the same in principle, you probably need to use an older kernel (or else refactor the code you are using)
[06:02] <DarkX> anywho thx for the help/ideas eck, im gunna have to do this on 30 racks of servers..this is just test box
[06:02] <DarkX> :X -puke-
[06:02] <eck> DarkX: ouch, good luck
[06:02] <DarkX> yeah..building a datacenter
[06:03] <dr-tofu> Dr_willis: what does nofb specify?
[06:03] <DarkX> n we got 30 racks donated..fully provisioned
[06:03] <eck> and you are running ubuntu? tbh i have not heard of anyone running it in a production environment before
[06:03] <riotkittie> sigh. if only there was a simple fix for my video woes.
[06:04] <DarkX> eck: i used to use it in a small datacenter...we did work for mcdonalds, NFL n bunch of other high profile people
[06:04] <eck> riotkittie: can you use dual head with virtual terminals?
[06:04] <Dr_willis> dr-tofu,  no framebuffer. makes sure the system is using a text based console.
[06:04] <DarkX> it served well...but i left there..n they moved the servers out of house
[06:04] <DarkX> fricken idiots didnt know how to maintain a redundant network i built
[06:05] <insider> in what file should i change in order to set a DNS ?
[06:05] <DarkX> insider, /etc/resolv.cofn
[06:05] <omglazers> Hey anyone else have problems installing java from the package manager?
[06:05] <DarkX> *resolv.conf
[06:05] <eck> i don't doubt it would work well, it's just that most people i know of are running rhel or maybe debian stable and don't really _ever_ intend to switch
[06:05] <omglazers> It seems stuck on 30% for me in the terminal emulator
[06:05] <Dr_willis> but resolv.conf is normally created by the networking scripts
[06:05] <eck> such is the life of an admin
[06:05] <gyaresu> insider: DarkX Well that would depend...
[06:05] <DarkX> eck: i like CentOS and debian stable more
[06:06] <DarkX> but i was in a funky experimental mood
[06:06] <DarkX> lol
[06:06] <riotkittie> eck: err. that i do not know. my ancient, dual head ati is only supported in windows
[06:06] <gyaresu> insider: If you just want to asign a sensible name to a lan server then /etc/hosts would do it. If you want to get your DNS requests from a specific machine then /etc/resolv.conf
[06:07] <eck> the company i am interning at uses rhel, but has philosophical objections against the RPM, it is quite a mess :-\
[06:07] <gyaresu> !offtopic
[06:07] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[06:08] <eck> sorry
[06:08] <DarkX> sry gyaresu
[06:08] <DarkX> :X
[06:08] <gyaresu> s'aight. You know how noisy it gets in here though.
[06:08] <DarkX> yeah
[06:08] <DarkX> maybe ill stick arround n help out
[06:08] <DarkX> :X
[06:08] <larrydavid> ok, so when im rebuilding the ATI drivers for my new kernel (its just a generic 2.6.17-11 but with PHC Voltage control patched), its saying: E: Couldn't find package linux-headers-2.6.17-11-fdd-generic when I do "sudo module-assistant prepare" - how can I specify that it should just use the generic linux headers?
[06:09] <gyaresu> larrydavid: what's you /usr/src/linux symbolic link pointed at?
[06:09] <larrydavid> um how do i check, sorry
[06:09] <gyaresu> larrydavid: 'ls -l /usr/src/linux'
[06:10] <gyaresu> larrydavid: It should be pointing at the linux-headers version you are trying to compile against.
[06:10] <larrydavid> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root src 35 2007-03-03 16:02 /usr/src/linux -> linux-headers-2.6.17-11-fdd-generic
[06:10] <DarkX>  sudo apt-get install linux-headers-generic
[06:10] <DarkX> uname -a
[06:11] <DarkX> make sure the running kernel is the 1 u have the srcs for
[06:11] <DarkX> if they differ...try rebooting....if they still differ...upgrade your source headers
[06:12] <sm0k3d> gyaresu: im following the howto link u sent me, it tells me to edit a file, but how do i save and close the file?
[06:12] <gyaresu> DarkX: I'm not sure we know what larrydavid has done already/ trying to acheive.
[06:12] <sm0k3d> gyaresu: the howtoforge
[06:12] <gyaresu> sm0k3d: Did you say you had a linux machine already installed?
[06:13] <sm0k3d> gyaresu: yea i installed it, it took like 15 min
[06:13] <crookedsoul> hi
[06:13] <catchjosh> sm0k3d: What directions did you use to open the file? vim/vi?
[06:13] <larrydavid> sorry let me explain better - i followed this howto: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UndervoltingHowto to install PHC and then rebuild the kernel
[06:13] <sm0k3d> catchjosh: i used vi
[06:14] <larrydavid> so the kernel i now have is called 2.6.17-11-fdd-generic