[00:48] <ging__> what's the quickest way to lookup which package provides a command?
[00:50] <ali1234> dpkg -S /path/to/file
[00:51] <ali1234> if you don't know where the file for the command is oyu can use which to find it eg: dpkg -S `which ls`
[00:53] <ali1234> if you don't have the command installed, sometimes just attempting to run it will tell you which package you need to install
[02:29]  * m0nkey_ pokes diddledan
[02:29] <m0nkey_> OK, dumb question. How'd I mount a NTFS volume at log on, without adding it to fstab?
[02:30] <m0nkey_> I know it has something to do with fuse.
[02:30] <m0nkey_> nvm.. think I just found my answer
[02:30] <daftykins> what's wrong with fstab :(
[02:31] <m0nkey_> Don't want the mount to be system wide
[02:31] <m0nkey_> looks like udisks does what i want
[02:36] <m0nkey_> udiskctl did it
[02:38] <m0nkey_> brb. testing
[02:38] <m0nkey_> beautiful, that worked
[02:48] <daftykins> zero config?
[02:57] <m0nkey_> Not quite
[02:57] <m0nkey_> Added /usr/bin/udisksctl mount -b /dev/sdb1 to my start-up applications
[02:58] <daftykins> ah-har
[02:58] <daftykins> neat :>
[02:58] <daftykins> nn \o
[05:51] <mapps> morning
[06:59] <mapps> ??
[07:49] <MooDoo> morning all
[08:43] <diplo> Morning all
[08:45] <mjayk> morning diplo
[08:53] <MooDoo> howdy diplo mjayk
[10:11] <bigcalm> Good morning peeps :)
[10:12] <MooDoo> morning bigcalm
[10:15] <JamesTait> Good morning all; happy Shopping Reminder Day! :-D
[10:16] <brobostigon> morning boys and girls.
[10:17] <bigcalm> JamesTait: what does one do on this day?
[10:17] <zmoylan-pi> one puts on protective body armour and begins christmas shopping i think
[10:18] <JamesTait> bigcalm, reflect on the fact that one now has less than a month to complete one's Christmas shopping.
[10:19] <zmoylan-pi> shops on sunday were jammers compared to usual
[10:19]  * Laney has the week off next week \o/
[10:19] <Laney> mid week Christmas shopping shall be done
[10:21] <bigcalm> Oh bother
[10:22] <bigcalm> We're off to Liverpool for the weekend. I expect it to bussier than usual
[10:22] <zmoylan-pi> an outbreak of busses is the worst... :-p
[10:23] <foobarry> irl shops sucks
[10:29] <foobarry> or maybe just people do
[10:51] <feisar> Hi All, is there anyway to get the Ubuntu desktop to give me a graphical notification of a degraded array (/proc/mdstat) ?
[10:53] <foobarry> feisar http://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.php?f=42&t=141768
[10:53] <foobarry> i get it to email me though
[10:53] <diplo> Hows your intranet thing looking foobarry ?
[10:54] <feisar> thanks, we're deploying a load of hi spec desktops for scientists so notifying them from the desktop is ideally what I want
[10:54] <davmor2> JamesTait: need milk, and there is my shopping reminder for the day ;)
[10:55] <foobarry> diplo: looking good, although w3schools gave me some bad advice which i rectified last night with assistance from guys in here last night
[10:55] <foobarry> its a friday afternoon job i reckon , as i have operational things to do this week :(
[10:55] <foobarry> main thing atm is getting useful data into my dashboard
[10:56] <foobarry> i'm such a noob at "new web", static html + css with a little php is my limit
[11:04] <bashrc> not much of a web developer myself, but it might be good to learn
[11:07] <foobarry> grrrrr some evil scumbag put a hosts.allow in addition to iptables
[11:08] <foobarry> took me couple of hours to realise that was the issue
[11:15] <diplo> Just found the url in my history foobarry, looks good!
[11:16] <foobarry> heh, i moved to a different server, might be old/broken stuff on that box
[11:16] <diplo> :) Looked better than the last time i'd seen it
[11:17] <foobarry> thx
[11:28] <awilkins> Is there a Spotify lens?
[11:58] <Ryvius> Help how do I get acpi_toshiba installed?
[12:05] <daftykins> "modprobe acpi_toshiba" ?
[12:08] <davmor2> awilkins: would you like to be a bit more specific? I think someone wrote one for the desktop but I'm not sure it is official or maintained and it in a ppa
[12:09] <awilkins> davmor2, Yeah, just wondered if there was a well supported one
[12:09] <daftykins> !info toshset
[12:09] <awilkins> Not really a problem
[12:09] <lubotu3`> toshset (source: toshset): Access much of the Toshiba laptop hardware interface. In component main, is optional. Version 1.76-4 (utopic), package size 60 kB, installed size 237 kB (Only available for i386; amd64)
[12:09] <davmor2> awilkins: if you mean in unity 8 then not that I know to but then I haven't really looked either
[12:10] <daftykins> hey people! http://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B00DVLWQMU/
[12:10] <daftykins> 'allo 'allo on DVD!
[12:11] <awilkins> It doesn't age well
[12:11] <awilkins> I remember really liking it as a kid
[12:13] <bashrc> I remember being vaguely annoyed by it as a kid
[12:13] <Ryvius> daftykins: It says it is not found
[12:14] <daftykins> Ryvius: ok. so what's the reason for this exactly?
[12:14] <Ryvius> I'm trying to get the Fn buttons for backlight adjustment working
[12:15] <Ryvius> And I don't have any of the toshiba stuff installed appearantly
[12:18] <daftykins> hrmm, tried all the usual backlight=vendor kernel parameter stuff?
[12:19] <foobarry> i remember having saucy feelings about the girls on it as a kid
[12:19] <Ryvius> I feel like I have. Now I'm trying that acpi_toshiba thing, but I don't know where to add it
[12:19] <foobarry> it was a quite good programme but degenerated into complete farce everntually
[12:20] <daftykins> Ryvius: did you google for ubuntu + your exact laptop model?
[12:20] <foobarry> obv it was designed as panto but turned into hi-de-hi
[12:20] <daftykins> ugh yet another kernel update for 10.04
[12:21] <Ryvius> daftykins: Yes that's where I found the acpi_toshiba thing, but no guide on how to add it, other than a manpage for BSD
[12:21] <daftykins> !find acpi_toshiba
[12:21] <lubotu3`> File acpi_toshiba found in freebsd-manpages
[12:22] <daftykins> wat
[12:23] <daftykins> Ryvius: 14.04 or 14.10? tried installing the above 'toshset' just in case that does anything?
[12:23] <foobarry> 10.04 is EOL isn't it?
[12:23] <daftykins> obviously i'm totally guessing here though
[12:23] <daftykins> foobarry: not on server, no
[12:23] <daftykins> good until April
[12:24] <foobarry> does server in this context mean only certain packages are updated still
[12:24] <foobarry> or it uses different repos
[12:24] <foobarry> to the desktop edition
[12:24] <daftykins> i don't know how they handled the split originally
[12:25] <daftykins> !lucid
[12:25] <lubotu3`> Ubuntu 10.04 LTS (Lucid Lynx) was the twelfth release of Ubuntu.  Desktop support ended May 9 2013. Server support continues. See http://ubottu.com/y/lucid for more details.
[12:26] <Ryvius> daftykins: 14.10, and already have toshset installed, though it cant run since it misses the toshiba kernel stuff
[12:30] <daftykins> Ryvius: hmm, i'll be at a proper computer in a short while to see if i can't find anything more useful but i think this one is beyond me for sure. what's the model?
[12:31] <Ryvius> SatellitePro L300-1CZ
[12:34] <Ryvius> I will be gone for 15 minutes now
[12:40] <foobarry> http://www.amazon.co.uk/Revell-Mini-Quadcopter-Looping-Function/dp/B00LBRQDZC/ref=lp_5246809031_1_18?s=kids&ie=UTF8&qid=1416919194&sr=1-18
[12:40] <foobarry> worth it?
[12:45] <bigcalm> It's tiny
[12:45] <bigcalm> For a bit of fun, might be expensive for a stocking filler
[12:45] <bigcalm> That said, I hope somebody gets me one for xmas
[12:47] <foobarry> heh
[12:48] <foobarry> they have about 11hrs left
[12:48] <bigcalm> I'm sure I'll survive
[12:52] <Ryvius> Okay back
[12:55] <davmor2> bigcalm: now you've seen it you won't :)
[12:58] <bigcalm> davmor2: you going to the LUG this week?
[12:58] <bigcalm> davmor2: you know Amo is back...
[12:58] <TwistedLucidity> foobarry: That wee bugger is 3D printed!
[12:59] <TwistedLucidity> I don't think I have ever seen that in a commercial product before. Well, not so obvious at ant rate.
[12:59] <davmor2> bigcalm: I'm hoping too but it depends how crazy today and tomorrow are hence not putting my name down yet :)
[12:59] <bigcalm> Okay
[13:00] <foobarry> TwistedLucidity: how do u know its 3d printed?
[13:01] <TwistedLucidity> foobarry: I looked at it. You can see the lines from the layers being laid down. Or are those just artefacts.
[13:01] <bigcalm> Might just be a poor cast
[13:02] <bigcalm> Nope, that does look 3d printed
[13:02] <foobarry> see what u mean
[13:03] <foobarry> which is funny because revell have access to injection moulding
[13:03] <TwistedLucidity> Making the dies is costly, maybe this is an experiment?
[13:03] <bigcalm> Might just be a prototype
[13:04] <TwistedLucidity> Or that
[13:07] <foobarry> it may also be impractical to mould
[13:10] <foobarry> http://www.history-now.net/2014/10/20-amazing-historical-pictures.html
[13:10] <foobarry> some amaznig pics
[13:15] <daftykins> Ryvius: you'd seen this one presumably? http://askubuntu.com/questions/316856/toshiba-satellite-l300-xubuntu-12-04-no-brightness-control
[13:15] <daftykins> doh
[13:15] <daftykins> link of death
[13:36] <foobarry> is there an elegant way to combine 2 awk commands? cat short.xml | awk -F'[<|>]' '{print $4}' | awk -F'"' '{print $2}'
[14:54] <m0nkey_> Google it? http://stackoverflow.com/questions/12167250/combine-multiple-awk-commands
[15:37] <bujji> hello popey
[15:38] <bujji> i have a problem with hard disk
[15:39] <bujji> please solve
[15:39] <diplo> !ask
[15:39] <lubotu3`> Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience
[15:39] <diplo> I believe popey is on a plane back from Turkey :)
[15:40] <bujji> okey
[15:41] <bujji> my external hard disk password blocked because of multiple attempts..how can i recover it,that is wd external hard disk...please help me on this problem
[15:43] <daftykins> WD encryption? hrmm
[15:44] <bujji> i think so
[15:44] <daftykins> bbl
[15:44] <bujji> bbl?
[15:44] <daftykins> i'll be back later.
[15:44] <bujji> okey
[15:47] <bigcalm> Big bubbly Lemmings
[15:53] <bujji> daftykins are you there
[15:55] <diplo> bujji, I wouldn't just select one person, if someone can help they'll answer
[15:55] <diplo> You've not mentioned any model numbers or anything you've tried so far
[15:55] <bujji> okey diplo..thanks
[15:55] <diplo> I've had a quick google and it seems for certain models there may be hacks
[15:56] <diplo> But they're quite in depth, have you tried on the WD forums as well ?
[15:56] <bujji> i tried that.
[15:56] <bujji> its hard
[15:57] <diplo> OK, well all I'm saying is it's not a linux specific issue, what model WD device is it ?
[15:58] <bujji> yes...model :WDBAAA3200ABK
[15:59] <TwistedLucidity> My guess is that WD will have a way to unblock. But the device might need to have been registered and this may well cost £££
[16:00] <foobarry> i have a cheeky favour to ask if ali1234 is around :-$
[16:00] <bujji> i hope you people find a solution for this
[16:01] <diplo> http://community.wd.com/t5/WD-Portable-Drives/WD-MY-PASSPORT-LOCKED-I-NEVER-SET-THE-PASSWORD/td-p/197496
[16:01] <diplo> Sounds like there isn't any way round it apart from suggestions in that post
[16:01] <diplo> It appears they store the pass on the device and they can become corrupt
[16:02] <mapps> hi all
[16:02] <diplo> bujji, this isn't a linux issue.. it's a WD issue by the looks of things
[16:02] <TwistedLucidity> bujji: You need to contact WD
[16:02] <bujji> ofcourse
[16:03] <bujji> i  expect you people find a solution for this
[16:04] <bujji> exactly i refered that community
[16:05] <diplo> Unless you're willing to go through some very in depth hacking of the device you are basically out of luck it seems
[16:05] <TwistedLucidity> bujji: You expect us to find a solution?
[16:05] <TwistedLucidity> What?
[16:05] <diplo> bah :D
[16:05] <diplo> He left, I give up
[16:05] <TwistedLucidity> Oh I have no doubt I could find a way into that drive. But £££££
[16:06] <diplo> Probably, but he didn't sound very umm willing ?
[16:06] <diplo> :)
[16:06]  * TwistedLucidity would sub-contract the job to a crypto-guru for £££ and keep $$ for themselves
[16:06] <zmoylan-pi> and if it's locked by wd software isn't it likely that the software is mac/windows?
[16:06] <TwistedLucidity> Firmware
[16:06] <TwistedLucidity> I think...
[16:07] <TwistedLucidity> If I want to do something like that, I buy a boring HDD and use EncryptFS, TrueCrypt, whatever
[16:07] <TwistedLucidity> Not some undocumented POS from the OEM
[16:09] <bujji> i am back..sorry for the disconnection
[16:10] <bujji> hey diplo are you there
[16:10] <TwistedLucidity> bujji: You expect us to find a solution?
[16:10] <bujji> i am expecting find a way to sslove the problem
[16:10] <bujji> solve*
[16:11] <TwistedLucidity> You've been told the solution
[16:11] <bujji> me ?
[16:11] <TwistedLucidity> Yes, contact WD, hire someone to break into
[16:11] <TwistedLucidity> Or try the ideas in diplo's link
[16:12] <bujji> at the first i refer that link before i came here
[16:13] <TwistedLucidity> So....you tried those?
[16:13] <bujji> yes. I have no solution
[16:13] <TwistedLucidity> Call WD support
[16:14] <TwistedLucidity> This isn't a Linux or Ubuntu problem, this is a WD problem
[16:14] <TwistedLucidity> You /might/ be able to hire a disc recover specialist to decrypt the drive, but it won't be cheap
[16:15] <foobarry> don't reckon
[16:16] <foobarry> if its encrypted then surely its only accessible with the encryption key
[16:16] <bujji> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Flom4k7lPUo
[16:16] <TwistedLucidity> foobarry: I was thinking they could possibly by-pass the firmware and brute force. Like I said, not cheap
[16:18] <TwistedLucidity> bujji: The freezer trick won't help with encrypted data
[16:18] <bujji> okey
[16:19] <bujji> its really a challenge for me..
[16:20] <TwistedLucidity> The data is *encrypted*. If you don't have the password you need to call WD support and speak to them. *OR* you have to pay someone to break the encryption.
[16:20] <TwistedLucidity> I'll repeat - this is not a Linux or Ubuntu problem.
[16:21] <bujji> thank you..
[16:22] <TwistedLucidity> bujji: Is the data important or do you just want to be able to use the drive again?
[16:22] <bujji> is there any way to contact them??
[16:22] <bujji> yes important..
[16:22] <TwistedLucidity> Do you have back-ups?
[16:23] <bujji> i thinkthere is a way to format
[16:23] <bujji> no (
[16:23] <TwistedLucidity> OK. Then call WD Support and speak with them
[16:24] <TwistedLucidity> Check their website to find the correct number for where you live
[16:24] <bujji> how can i find that to get the support like chat or direct contact
[16:24] <TwistedLucidity> Look on their website
[16:26] <bujji> okey ..thank you for your time to reply.
[16:28] <daftykins> i think i would agree with the above
[16:29] <bujji> okey bye..twistedlucidity
[16:29] <TwistedLucidity> BYe
[16:30] <TwistedLucidity> Heh, and now I find the answer. Well, almost
[16:30] <TwistedLucidity> http://security.stackexchange.com/questions/44730/how-secure-is-wd-mypassport-lock
[16:31] <daftykins> best not to try and use such devices other than they're intended anyway though, really
[16:32] <TwistedLucidity> Aye. My guess is that if anything can be done it needs to go back to WD with a suitable amount of £££
[16:32] <TwistedLucidity> Also a good object lesson in having multiple back-ups!
[16:32] <daftykins> oh come to think of it, that's that indian fellow again most likely
[16:33] <daftykins> so no wonder we didn't get the full story from the beginning
[16:33] <TwistedLucidity> daftykins: ?
[16:33] <daftykins> yeah, user from india
[16:33] <daftykins> well we didn't get any info on where the disk came from, whether it was used with Windows before
[16:38] <ging__> nickserv ghost ging jungle
[16:38] <ging__> ooops
[16:38] <TwistedLucidity> Oh dear
[16:39] <zmoylan-pi> we promise not to look :-)
[16:39] <ging__> i think it's expired anyway and someone else has taken it
[16:40] <TwistedLucidity> If forgot my password a while back. Thank goodness it's stored in plain text on the drive!
[16:40]  * TwistedLucidity facepalms
[16:41] <zmoylan-pi> i have them written down in personal code in safe place
[16:41] <ging> oh it did work
[16:41] <ging> but i can't figure out how to change the password
[16:41] <daftykins> better to ask in freenode
[16:42] <ging> done
[16:43] <ging> now i just need to talk a bit of mindless rubbish so the whole thing goes off the screen
[16:44] <daftykins> or create a new pass ;)
[16:44] <ging> i did
[16:44] <ging> but people can still see my fail
[16:45] <daftykins> hah
[16:45] <daftykins> status windows for all commands, sir
[16:45] <bigcalm> And the channel is publicly logged :)
[16:45] <daftykins> XD
[16:46] <daftykins> to bash.org!
[17:00] <Myrtti> I saw only nickserv ghost ging ******
[17:00] <Myrtti> oh  man, that joke is so old.
[17:01] <Myrtti> I'm groaning at myself
[17:02] <daftykins> it was pretty terrible the first time too
[17:03]  * bigcalm giggles at Myrtti
[17:43] <davmor2> Myrtti: oh look you typed in you password mine is hunter2
[17:47] <davmor2> ging: they just need to look at user to know you fail.theginger.net
[17:56] <ging> that is why i only use trivial passwords on irc as it's all unencrypted
[17:56] <ging> and the big risk of typing it into a channel
[17:57] <daftykins> not if you SASL auth like a good sir
[17:57] <daftykins> :>
[18:15] <daftykins> there's some nice stuff coming up on Amazon UK's black friday lightning deals
[18:15] <daftykins> pair of Netgear 500Mbps powerline adapters
[18:15] <daftykins> sadly i missed the 512GB crucial MX100 SSD that went for £120 :(
[18:15] <daftykins> appears to be a 16-port gigabit switch from linksys coming up too
[18:16] <ali1234> foobarry?
[18:16] <daftykins> in 24 minutes
[18:23] <DJones> daftykins: I paid £175 for that SSD about 3 weeks ago
[18:23] <daftykins> :)
[18:23] <daftykins> where did you buy?
[18:23] <DJones> Wouldyou believe PCWorld
[18:23] <Myrtti> ging: connect over SSL and it's not in plain text
[18:24] <daftykins> DJones: why on earth O_O
[18:24] <DJones> Work actually paid, so price didn't matter that much
[18:24] <ali1234> i only paid £160 and i bought it about 2 weeks after it was released
[18:24] <DJones> £175 was about the average price I saw checking online before buying it
[18:24] <daftykins> i got mine cheaper on release day *cough* VAT
[18:24] <daftykins> this Linksys switch won't ship to the Channel Islands!
[18:24] <daftykins> argh
[18:25] <daftykins> it frustrates me to my very core when we get treated as second class citizens
[18:25] <DJones> It was a case of having to be able to pick one up from store,rather than a cheaper price buying online
[18:25] <DJones> daftykins: So if they ship to the channel islands, you get a 25% discount over the rest of the uk and consider that as 2nd class citizens?
[18:26] <DJones> :)
[18:26] <ali1234> not 25%
[18:26] <daftykins> where do you get 25% from?
[18:26] <ali1234> he did the math backwards
[18:26] <ali1234> if vat was 25% you'd get a 20% discount by not paying it
[18:26] <DJones> Yep, spot on, good job I'm an accountant
[18:26] <ali1234> but it isn't
[18:26] <DJones> Didn't have my calculator to hand
[18:28] <daftykins> you don't need a calculator to do VAT :(
[18:28] <daftykins> 10% and double it
[18:28] <daftykins> i quite like the look of this games console video capture device
[18:28] <DJones> But not backwards
[18:28] <ali1234> yeah backwards is harder. 20/120
[18:28] <daftykins> well i don't know what values you were comparing anyway since i never mentioned any
[18:28] <daftykins> (that were excluding VAT)
[18:29] <ali1234> or 1/6. so 16.666%
[18:29] <DJones> daftykins: Would it have been cheaper than mine or ali1234's if you'd had to add 20% vat?
[18:29] <daftykins> i dunno, this was months ago
[18:29] <ali1234> same price probably?
[18:29] <ali1234> well, same price as mine. cheaper than yours
[18:30] <DJones> ali1234: Would be £133.33 assuming his price included vat
[18:30] <DJones> Mine was £125 ish
[18:30] <DJones> £145 ish
[18:31] <ali1234> i bought mine with magic internet money anyway
[18:31] <daftykins> hang on let me compare from the true source
[18:31] <DJones> But regardless of price, it was a good recommendation from ali1234
[18:31] <daftykins> ugh not that coin malarkey :P
[18:32] <DJones> daftykins: Does that mean you paid in "mycoinnameisbetterthanyourcoinname" currency :)
[18:33] <daftykins> DJones: you come up with some very odd questions
[18:33] <daftykins> just standard ol' GBP
[18:34] <daftykins> ok so 512GB MX100 direct from crucial is £138.99 to me
[18:34] <DJones> Heh, by magic internet money, I thought you meant random-coin
[18:34] <ali1234> it's £129 ex vat on scan, which is where i bought mine
[18:34] <daftykins> that wasn't me that said that, DJones
[18:35]  * daftykins makes a coffee for DJones ;)
[18:35]  * DJones throws a whisky in the coffee
[18:35]  * DJones Oops, that was ahalf a bottle
[18:36] <ali1234> + £5 for delivery
[18:36] <ali1234> that probably doesn't cover channel islands though
[18:36] <daftykins> no crucial's delivery is free
[18:36] <daftykins> you can pick various levels but why would you if you can get it free :>
[18:36] <ali1234> yeah but it's still more expensive
[18:36] <daftykins> than what?
[18:37] <ali1234> than scan £129.51 + £4.57 delivery
[18:37] <ali1234> (ex vat)
[18:37] <daftykins> well obviously etailers differ in price
[18:37] <daftykins> how are we even having this conversation 0o
[18:37] <daftykins> i thought you guys were comparing tax to non-tax, not shopping around :P
[18:38] <DJones> I was just comparing tax/non-tax
[18:39] <ali1234> i thought we were just bashing PC world for having a 15% markup on everything
[18:39] <DJones> ali1234: I wasn't doing that, they had stock I could pick up there and then, suited me for this
[18:44] <daftykins> £49.99 for a Linksys 16 port switch 0o
[18:44] <daftykins> i don't think that's especially all that great?
[18:46] <ali1234> it's okay. do you really need 16 ports tho? cos 5 port is £17
[18:46] <ali1234> and they do an 8 port one as well
[18:48] <daftykins> yes, i have an 8 port already and use more than that
[18:48] <daftykins> not all at once typically but i like to have things patched in
[18:56] <daftykins> https://www.dropbox.com/s/q4kv2v53o0tf934/amazonconfuse.JPG?dl=0
[18:56] <daftykins> how confusing
[18:58] <zmoylan-pi> all the more bacon here for us
[18:58] <zmoylan-pi> whoops, wrong channel...
[19:01] <DJones> bacon? Where's Jono?
[19:02] <DJones> Oh I forget, he's run off to xprize
[19:02] <daftykins> https://www.dropbox.com/s/v6idg35pa35s5ba/IMG_20141125_185857.jpg?dl=0
[19:02] <zmoylan-pi> ah, the hackers preferred method of keeping arms warm in cold office
[19:03] <daftykins> just ignore the terrible handwriting
[19:45] <davmor2> daftykins: aaaaawwwww an arm warmer how quaint :)
[19:45] <daftykins> haha
[19:45] <daftykins> more of a typing hinderer
[19:55] <daftykins> i got a notification a while back by email from a NAS i put in for someone, saying it has an update out for fixing the ol' BASH bugs and what not, but for a device not hosting external services i wouldn't think it worthy to contact a home user and say i need to come over to update it :D
[20:02] <zmoylan-pi> can i come over and check your script handling is always a good opening line...
[20:03] <daftykins> thing is it only makes sense to charge for something like that, but equally you can't justify the time
[20:03] <daftykins> i don't think it matters for a backup NAS for macs that hosts no online services
[20:04] <ali1234> i would say NAS units are most likely to have exposed cgi scripts that use bash
[20:04] <zmoylan-pi> was the email from the nas or the company who made the nas?  can be justified as a smart device callout...
[20:04] <ali1234> haserl is quite common in that type of system
[20:06] <daftykins> zmoylan-pi: automated email notification from the unit, yeah
[20:08] <zmoylan-pi> so pass on that email and say that your hardware is recommending an importany security update.  it may not be providing web services but you have no idea what security problems will apprear around the corner...
[20:08] <zmoylan-pi> better safe than sorry
[20:15] <ali1234> ugh... what was i thinking: _draw_block_type(false, (blocktype)(crash|diamond)); _draw_block_type(2, (blocktype)(crash|diamond));
[20:16] <diddledan> ali1234, gezundheid
[20:19] <ali1234> glColor3f(b & 1, b & 2, b & 4);
[20:19] <ali1234> wat
[20:20] <ali1234> those aren't floats
[20:28] <diddledan> ali1234, what are you working on?
[20:28] <diddledan> it's obviously something graphical
[20:29] <diddledan> 3d monopoly?
[20:29] <diddledan> :-p
[20:29] <diddledan> MMO monopoly would be an interesting concept
[20:30] <ali1234> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5EExQc4s9B8
[20:38] <diddledan> ali1234, that looks like tetris on steroids
[20:38] <diddledan> it looks impossible
[20:40] <ali1234> it's puzzlefighter
[20:40] <ali1234> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YsuaonMxbD0
[20:42] <ali1234> it's two player tetris with actual strategy
[21:03] <daftykins> diddledan: bring 'round the horses! i am tempted by chinese takeaway
[21:04] <diddledan> :-)
[21:18] <diddledan> new trailer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RFinNxS5KN4 OH EMM GEE
[21:47] <daftykins> https://www.dropbox.com/sh/rvnczc04ava1ci0/AAAbY8jo8sYdjKk6CcApJ5bqa?dl=0
[21:47] <daftykins> ;)
[21:50]  * zmoylan-pi could murder battered sausage and chips right now
[21:51] <diddledan> zmoylan-pi,  +1
[21:51] <daftykins> :D
[21:51] <diddledan> daftykins, your money looks fake
[21:51] <daftykins> ty sir
[21:51] <diddledan> daftykins, it isn't even trying to look legit
[21:51] <daftykins> but the queen!
[21:51] <daftykins> zmoylan-pi: i hope that's open sauce
[21:54] <zmoylan-pi> brown and/or red sauce
[22:46] <mapps> pprentice time yay
[22:51] <daftykins> ugh :P
[22:51] <daftykins> can't stand that
[23:39]  * diddledan watching "the code"
[23:39] <diddledan> it's a pretty decent intrigue


[15:38] <mhall119> highvoltage: ping
[15:55] <mhall119> highvoltage: http://img718.imageshack.us/img718/2295/xdglauncher.png it's working as a basic launcher now
[15:55] <mhall119> I'm starting to work on packaging, I'll probably be asking you for help
[16:15] <highvoltage> mhall119: pong
[16:15] <highvoltage> mhall119: cool!
[16:15] <mhall119> it's not working on old qimo sessions yet, something about where the xdg menus are located
[16:15] <mhall119> but it works on Gnome sessions
[16:16] <mhall119> enough to get a package into archives anyway
[16:16] <highvoltage> ok
[16:16] <highvoltage> it's a start at least :)
[16:22] <mhall119> yeah
[16:22] <mhall119> and it'll stop kids from opening more than one instance of a game from the launcher
[16:23] <mhall119> which is something that's been requested of us since 1.0
[17:08] <highvoltage> mhall119: I fixed that in tuxlab before with a wrapper, I've wondered since if gnome doesn't provide something like that as well where you can check some things before launching an app
[17:49] <mhall119> highvoltage: right now, the panel tracks if the child-process for one of the apps is still running


[11:00] <m01> Hi people. Does someone know if cloud-init is supposed to be able to setup multiple network interfaces if I launch a VM with multiple network ports in OpenStack, EC2 etc?
[11:00] <m01> (I'm only seeing the first one being setup for DHCP)
[12:53] <smoser> m01, there are some bugs in that area. but current cloud-init should be able to set up networking for multiple interfaces if
[12:53] <m01> ..if?
[12:54] <smoser> a.) eth0 is configured in image to be dhcp (and can get a dchp address) or otherwise is correctly configured.
[12:54] <smoser> b.) no other network interfaces are configured in the image
[12:54] <m01> I think both of those conditions are fulfilled
[12:54] <smoser> c.) you use config drive
[12:54] <m01> ok
[12:54] <smoser> posisbly it would work with openstack metadata service
[12:54] <smoser> i'm not entirely sure.
[12:55] <smoser> the goal is to have these issues fixed so that reliably the networking that is presented would do the right thing
[12:55] <m01> Ok, excellent - so cloud-init is expected to do this
[12:56] <smoser> there are definitely bugs
[12:56] <m01> do you happen to know if the ubuntu 14.04 cloud image should have a recent enough cloud-init for this to work?
[12:56] <m01> don't worry if you don't know of the top off your head, I'll go investigate
[12:56] <smoser>  http://paste.ubuntu.com/8350293/
[12:56] <smoser> 14.04 should be close. and the goal is to at some point have that functional in 14.04.
[12:58] <m01> excellent
[12:58] <m01> I'll make sure I enable the config-drive
[12:58] <m01> and then re-test
[12:59] <m01> thank you so much!
[13:49] <m01> so I tried the ubuntu 14.04 image, with config drive (and eth0 working), and unfortunately eth1 isn't setup
[13:51] <m01> I don't think nova injects an /etc/network/interfaces (at least it's not on the config drive)
[13:52] <m01> the other interface is just connected to a dhcp network in openstack
[13:54] <m01> i've got Version: 0.7.5-0ubuntu1
[13:54] <m01> that's the latest according to launchpad
[15:03] <smoser> m01, how did you attach ?
[15:03] <smoser> is /etc/network/interfaces correct?
[15:04] <smoser> basically what should happen is that cloud-init should find the /etc/network/interfaces file that is provided to it on the config-drive and place that in /etc/network/interfaces.
[15:04] <smoser> and 'ifup -a'
[15:19] <m01> /etc/network/interfaces just has the eth0 config
[15:19] <m01> ah
[15:19] <m01> that file isn't in the config drive
[15:19] <m01> I just mount /dev/sr0 test
[15:19] <smoser> m01, it should be somewherein there.
[15:20] <m01> it wasn't.. I did a find, and an ls -lR
[15:20] <smoser> whats in files/
[15:20] <m01> 1s
[15:21] <m01> well, I need to re-launch the instance actually
[15:21] <m01> I blew up the networks
[15:21] <m01> and re-configued my openstack setup
[15:23] <m01> *launching
[15:26] <m01> http://pastebin.com/p3PLXjvj
[15:26] <m01> here's the contents of my drive
[15:27] <m01> i don't have a files/ directory
[17:42] <harmw> cirros-0.3.3-x86_64-initrd
[17:42] <harmw> cirros-0.3.3-arm-blank.img
[17:42] <harmw> cirros-0.3.3-arm-vmlinuz
[17:42] <harmw> cirros-0.3.3-arm-initrd
[17:42] <harmw> Build step 'Execute shell' marked build as failure
[17:42] <harmw> [ssh-agent] Stopped.
[17:42] <harmw> Finished: FAILURE
[17:42] <harmw> hm, now why is Jenkins telling me that
[17:48] <JayF> exit code
[17:48] <harmw> yea, that was my first assumption as well :)
[17:48] <JayF> if your build script doesn't exit 0, it'll report failure
[17:48]  * JayF not trying to snark
[17:48] <harmw> snark?
[17:48] <JayF> like be sarcastic :)
[17:48] <harmw> wasn't that some bug in half-life :p
[17:48] <JayF> I was trying to actually be helpful
[17:49] <JayF> lol
[17:49] <harmw> oh np :)
[17:49] <harmw> it's bin/build-release that probably needs some love now
[17:50]  * JayF has added ||true to the end of those things to make jenkins pass
[17:53] <harmw> true, but it looks like it just bails somewhere
[17:54] <smoser> its probably the stupid tag check
[17:54] <smoser> it doesn't really support building from trunk
[17:55] <smoser>  but it shoud lhave been fairly straight forward in saying that
[17:55] <harmw> hehe
[17:56] <harmw> can't you just fix that :p
[18:02] <smoser> well, someone needs to . harmw you can just tag first before you build.
[18:04] <harmw> wouldn't that limit everything to just my branch?
[18:04] <smoser> i dont follow
[18:05] <smoser> basically just do somethin glike:
[18:05] <smoser> tag=harmw-$(date +%Y%m%d-%S)
[18:05] <smoser> bzr tag $tag
[18:05] <smoser> ./bin/build-release $tag
[18:05] <harmw> uhm, yea ok
[18:05] <harmw> but there should be a 0.3.3 tag, right?
[18:06] <smoser> there should, yes.
[18:06] <harmw> since I'm currently running bin/build-release 0.3.3
[18:08] <smoser> http://paste.ubuntu.com/8352141/
[18:09] <smoser> your branch might not have that tag in it.
[18:10] <harmw> wll I should be building trunk here
[18:12] <smoser> well, that shows that there *is* a 0.3.3 tag in trunk
[18:12] <harmw> indeed
[18:33] <harmw> JayF: you've used jenkins with the irc plugin?
[18:33] <JayF> Yes
[18:33] <harmw> please tell me where I can configure that darn thing :p
[18:33] <harmw> can't seem to find it
[18:36] <JayF> um
[18:36] <JayF> almost all of that kind of plugin setup
[18:36] <JayF> is shoved somewhere into global setup
[18:36] <harmw> I thought so, but I'm not seeing it
[21:15] <JayF> found a gnarly little bug in cloud-init with noblock resizes
[21:15] <JayF> about to push up a fix
[21:26] <JayF> smoser: https://bugs.launchpad.net/cloud-init/+bug/1338614 I'm pushing a fix for this
[21:27] <JayF> smoser: as I just fixed it locally
[21:27] <JayF> whee
[21:30] <JayF> the fun thing is
[21:30] <JayF> the resize still happened
[21:30] <JayF> just did it blocking in the fg
[21:30] <JayF> then threw a fun exception
[21:43] <JayF> smoser: harmw: harlowja_a*: https://code.launchpad.net/~jason-oldos/cloud-init/bug-1338614/+merge/234749 should fix 1338614. I was unable to run tests due to local enviornment problems but will run them as soon as my VM recovers :)
[21:43] <JayF> I've verified this code fixes the exception shown and makes the resize happen in the background
[22:14] <JayF> I think I may have broken the bzr
[22:33] <harlowja_> hmmm, lol, u broken the bzr!
[22:33] <harlowja_> ha
[22:33] <JayF> harlowja_: my working copy is an absolute mess
[22:34] <JayF> harlowja_: I want git reset --hard origin/master
[22:34] <JayF> except I don't know how to tell bzr to do that :x
[22:34] <harlowja_> ya, i only know the basics, smoser though probably knows it all
[22:38] <harlowja_> JayF did u read over all the taskflow stuff?
[22:38] <harlowja_> :-P
[22:39] <JayF> I read it, most of it sounded like anti-git propoganda
[22:39] <JayF> I think I want a direct mapping of commands
[22:39] <JayF> but there is none
[22:39] <harlowja_> lol
[22:39] <JayF> wiki.bazaar.canonical.com/Workflows was not useful to me at all :(
[22:39] <harlowja_> i wonder how https://github.com/termie/git-bzr-ng works
[22:40] <JayF> I don't like not knowing things, I'd rather just know how to make this work :)
[22:40] <harlowja_> :)
[22:42] <harlowja_> i try to stay using git if i can :-P
[22:42] <harlowja_> smoser so when cloud-init movign to git ;)
[22:43] <JayF> if cloud-init moves to github, I'll even setup all the travis ci for it :P
[22:43] <JayF> and then eat my flip flop in surprise
[22:44] <harlowja_> nice
[22:44] <harlowja_> i'd pay to see that
[22:47] <harlowja_> JayF i think u missed the days when openstack was fully using bzr :-P
[22:47] <harlowja_> about 2.5 years ago
[22:47] <harlowja_> there was some fun mailing list threads about that one
[22:48] <harlowja_> https://lists.launchpad.net/openstack/msg01741.html
[22:48] <harlowja_> *and many followups*
[22:54] <JayF> jesus, that sounds awful
[23:16] <harlowja_> JayF :)
[23:16] <harlowja_> the good ole days
[23:16] <harlowja_> lol
[23:55] <smoser> harlowja_, JayF its not an impossibility
[23:55] <smoser> moving to git.
[23:56] <JayF> for every minute I spend working on cloud-init code
[23:56] <JayF> I spend two figuring out bzr
[23:56] <JayF> and I'm sure I'll get off that hamster wheel one day, but for now it's annoying
[23:57] <smoser> i spent a good while today thinking about how networking should work
[23:57] <JayF> especially seeing that I can't get my local to get up to whatever HEAD is now, I'm a few revisions behind :(
[23:58] <smoser> in a world where cloud-init boots, and gets networking information from a local source (ie , config drive). and also from a network source / hot plugged.
[23:58] <JayF> we've been doing some thinking about the ongoing stuff as well
[23:58] <JayF> i.e. a customer calls an API to add a cloud network, how does that get configured?
[23:58] <JayF> on a hypervisor you can just drop in an interface
[23:59] <JayF> without a hypervisor you have to change something (like the metadata in an md service) and have something looking for changes there
[23:59] <JayF> but we're borderline if it's in cloud-init scope at that point, right?