[02:58] <andreuu> probably some way to find out what it really is, but im just doing trial and error :)
[02:58] <Thuggernaut> yeah i have been searching
[02:58] <djbryy> yes i can sethk
[02:58] <oht> first step after a fresh install   1) Install Nethack
[02:58] <sethk> djbryy, because odds are that it is already in the file, and, if so, adding it again won't solve your problem.
[02:58] <djbryy> ok
[02:58] <sethk> djbryy, ok, tell us the URL when you are done pasting.
[02:59] <djbryy> pasting what ?
[02:59] <djbryy> sorry guys omg.
[02:59] <djbryy> what do i paste
[02:59] <djbryy> ?
[02:59] <sethk> djbryy, the current contents of the menu.lst file
[02:59] <crimsun> livingdaylight: getent passwd $USER |awk -F: '{print $7}'
[02:59] <cornell> sethk, what's badblocks gonna tell me?  Will it fix things, mark them bad, or give me a list of things to do?
[02:59] <Pelo> djbryy,  you can skip the stuff with # in front of the lines
[02:59] <sethk> cornell, in the default mode, it will not fix anything.  it will print a list of bad sectors
[03:00] <dulouz> Hello, I am trying to get Bitstream Vera Sans Mono working in emacs. It shows up as available in gedit, but doesn't show up with xlsfonts. Any ideas?
[03:00] <sethk> cornell, there are modes where you can tell it to automatically mark the sectors, but usually, you wouldn't run badblocks directly to do that.
[03:00] <hfhf> does anyone here play enemy territory?
[03:00] <livingdaylight> crimsun: /bin/bash
[03:00] <MikeyMike> ok so i keep getting an error with vino server.... whenever someone tries to connect to me it crashes and i get this error in the terminal that i launched it from:  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/31118/
[03:00] <sethk> cornell, e2fsck has a mode where it will run badblocks for you and integrate the badblocks output with the file system.
[03:00] <sethk> cornell, but, that won't help you
[03:00] <djbryy> Pelo, Can you help me?
[03:00] <sethk> cornell, because your problem is with the boot loader.
[03:00] <MikeyMike> I dont undersatnd whats going on if anyone knows please help
[03:00] <sethk> cornell, the boot loader is installed at the very beginning of the hard drive
[03:01] <sethk> cornell, wait, I just realized something
[03:01] <Pelo> djbryy,  I don'T know anything about editing the menu.lst ,    grub did it on its own fro me
[03:01] <kaptengu> beryl is fantastic
[03:01] <djbryy> OK YOU ARE NO HELP!
[03:01] <sethk> cornell, you did /dev/hda1 (or hdX1) and that won't do what you need
[03:01] <cornell> ok, sethk
[03:01] <oht> chemical formula for beryl = Be3Al2Si2O6
[03:01] <MikeyMike> if anyone knows whats up say my name so im notified by xchat
[03:01] <cornell>
[03:01] <sethk> cornell, to check the boot loader part of the disk, you need to do the device (hda), not a partition
[03:01] <djbryy> Sethk, dude !! can u plz help!
[03:01] <dynamo> whats that about the grub?
[03:01] <cornell>  /dev/hda ?
[03:01] <crimsun> livingdaylight: why is fish being used?
[03:01] <dylan__> anybody in here have any luck getting their laptop to load the Live CD?
[03:01] <_zardoz_> hello. can somebody give me some tips on how to set up my sound card? I have creative labs x-fi
[03:01] <sethk> cornell, right.  after a couple of minutes you can stop it, because if there is a problem with the boot loader area it will come up immediately.
[03:01] <livingdaylight> crimsun: whats wrong with fish?
[03:01] <cornell> k, thanks II can control C this and try again?
[03:02] <TGPO> dylan__, yup
[03:02] <sethk> cornell, yes
[03:02] <dylan__> TGPO, please help me
[03:02] <TGPO> dylan__, whats the system specs of the laptop?
[03:02] <djbryy> sethk, !!!! help djbryy plz !!!!
[03:02] <andreuu> i cant mount my cdrom, says use apt-cdrom , but that says e: failed to mount the cdrom
[03:02] <dylan__> TGPO, ibm thinkpad t22
[03:02] <livingdaylight> crimsun: i find i'm learning more from using fish, but a console is a console
[03:02] <TGPO> dylan__, specs not model
[03:02] <cornell> k, if I lose you, thanks sethk, bbiab
[03:02] <dylan__> piii, 900mhz 512 ram
[03:02] <crimsun> livingdaylight: it's not accepting valid sh syntax, that's what's wrong
[03:02] <andreuu> its really a dvd rom :)
[03:03] <sethk> djbryy, did you paste the file?
[03:03] <TGPO> dylan__, add noacpi to the boot line
[03:03] <Pelo> djbryy,  do you see how many ppl are in this channel , do you see how many ppl are getting help on how many different problems ?  do you see how few ppl are helping  ?  stop whining , someone will get to you
[03:03] <livingdaylight> crimsun: ok, so i'll just exit fish
[03:03] <djbryy> sethk, what file do i have to paste?
[03:03] <dylan__> TGPO, i have before
[03:03] <dylan__> i
[03:03] <dylan__> will try again
[03:03] <andreuu> where is the paste website ?
[03:03] <sethk> djbryy, /boot/grub/menu.lst
[03:03] <dynamo> djbryy, what's the prob?
[03:03] <Pelo> !pastebin | andreuu
[03:03] <ubotu> andreuu: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[03:03] <livingdaylight>  crimsun so what shall we try again, that might work that didn't coz of fish?
[03:04] <djbryy> sethk, .boot.grub/menu.1st does not work man!
[03:04] <dylan__> TGPO, still trying to boot...
[03:04] <dylan__> i'll know in a minute
[03:04] <crimsun> livingdaylight: amixer set 'Capture' 80%,cap && amixer set 'Mic Boost (+20dB)' on
[03:04] <omnid> How can I solve this mixer problem
[03:04] <Pelo> djbryy,  LST , not oneST
[03:04] <andreuu> ta Pelo
[03:04] <TGPO> dylan are you getting kernel panics?
[03:04] <djbryy> OHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
[03:04] <djbryy> flash1:ty!!
[03:04] <dylan__> TGPO, the sys locks up, yes
[03:04] <dylan__> but the screen goes blank
[03:05] <TGPO> dylan__, one sec
[03:05] <djbryy> Pelo, it says denied
[03:05] <Thuggernaut> rgr
[03:05] <djbryy> bash: /boot/grub/menu.lst: Permission denied
[03:05] <djbryy> Pelo, Thats what it said to me
[03:05] <dynamo> sudo!!! djbryy
[03:05] <Pelo> djbryy,  sudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[03:06] <livingdaylight> crimsun: that looks better: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/31119/
[03:06] <dynamo> djbryy, what's the prob?
[03:06] <sethk> djbryy, you have to edit the file, copy it, and then paste it to the paste web site.  This is pricisely what you would have to do in windows, so I don't know why you are confused.
[03:06] <MikeyMike> ok so i keep getting an error with vino server.... whenever someone tries to connect to me it crashes and i get this error in the terminal that i launched it from:  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/31118/
[03:06] <djbryy> Pelo, what is sudo?
[03:06] <Pelo> djbryy,  allows you root access to a file
[03:06] <dynamo> sudo vim /boot/grub/menu.lst
[03:06] <sethk> djbryy, did you really think you can see the contents of a file by executing the file?
[03:06] <Pelo> djbryy,  you will be asked for your pasword
[03:06] <crimsun> livingdaylight: amixer set 'Capture' 80%,80%
[03:06] <Pelo> afk
[03:07] <djbryy> sethk, ok um I am brand new at this man sorry ok ?
[03:07] <TGPO> dylan__, I found your problem
[03:07] <drunkpikachu> does anyone know how/where I can get (if they even exist) the non 64 version of the fglrx 8.30.3 drivers?
[03:07] <djbryy> Pelo, where will they ask my passworD?
[03:07] <dylan__> TGPO, :)
[03:07] <TGPO> dylan__, its the video driver on the liveCD
[03:07] <dylan__> ok
[03:07] <dylan__> what can i do?
[03:07] <sethk> djbryy, it would be ok if people hadn't told you exactly what command to run four times.  If you want help, you really have to pay attention to the answers you get.
[03:07] <TGPO> dylan__, here is a link that will walk you through it
[03:07] <rogue780> does anyone know how to convert .tivo files to something like xvid, avi, or mpeg2 under linux?
[03:08] <djbryy> sethk, ok i am all ears
[03:08] <rogue780> !mpeg2
[03:08] <andreuu> lol
[03:08] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mpeg2 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:08] <djbryy> sethk, start over.
[03:08] <livingdaylight> crimsun: yep: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/31120/ your scripts are flying now :D
[03:08] <TGPO> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=190166
[03:08] <rogue780> !convert
[03:08] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about convert - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:08] <dylan__> TGPO, thanks, i'll see if this works
[03:08] <livingdaylight> crimsun: sorry about the fish. I'm really surprised
[03:08] <sethk> djbryy, ok, just about eight lines ago, you were given, _again_, the command to edit the file.  If that didn't help you, then telling you again isn't going to help you.  however, one last time:   sudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[03:08] <rogue780> crimsun: do you know of any video conversion utilities?
[03:09] <livingdaylight> crimsun: there was this rave review about the fish console so i thought i'd try it and iked the look of it
[03:09] <crimsun> rogue780: no.
[03:09] <MikeyMike> :(
[03:09] <MikeyMike> this vnc problem is horribly discouraging
[03:09] <MikeyMike> ok so i keep getting an error with vino server.... whenever someone tries to connect to me it crashes and i get this error in the terminal that i launched it from:  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/31118/
[03:09] <crimsun> livingdaylight: fish is fine. I just cannot believe it mucks up valid sh syntax so badly.
[03:09] <TGPO> MikeyMike, I read that, and it tells you to run it with -sync to get the debug info
[03:09] <andreuu> djbryy,  you have to copy and paste that to http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[03:10] <livingdaylight> crimsun: yea, if it does then it isn't so fine is it?
[03:10] <djbryy> sethk, so i write the following in the terminal?:  sudogedit/boot.grub/menu.lst?
[03:10] <MikeyMike> TGPO, hmm where?
[03:10] <crimsun> livingdaylight: is captured audio audible now?
[03:10] <andreuu> highlight the entire file
[03:10] <MikeyMike> OH
[03:10] <andreuu> and copy and paste that to http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[03:10] <MikeyMike> i missed that part!
[03:10] <bruenig> djbryy, sudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[03:10] <sethk> djbryy, spaces count.  I didn't say   sudogedit, I said   sudo gedit
[03:10] <MikeyMike> thanks for pointing that out TGPO
[03:10] <djbryy> ok
[03:10] <dylan__> TGPO, can i say something like vga=vesa ?
[03:10] <TGPO> MikeyMike, in the error you posted, it says how to run it to get the debug info, read closer
[03:10] <MikeyMike> right
[03:10] <MikeyMike> i missed it
[03:10] <MikeyMike> sorry
[03:10] <LjL> dylan__: no but you can say vesa=something IIRC
[03:11] <TGPO> dylan__, have you tried safe mode graphics?
[03:11] <dylan__> TGPO, i do not know how to get "safe mode graphics"
[03:11] <dylan__> is there a command?
[03:11] <dylan__> what is the boot:  command
[03:11] <mzuverink> How do I get XChat to open links in firefox and not konqueror, using the xchat systray i set firefox, but it still uses konq?
[03:11] <LjL> dylan__, it's an option in the live CD
[03:11] <TGPO> dylan__, I thought it was one of the boot options ...
[03:11] <djbryy> sethk, here is what came up when i pasted.... http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/31122/
[03:11] <dylan__> TGPO, im using gnewsense, remember?  its basically dapper.  i just need the boot:  command
[03:12] <sethk> djbryy, ok, let me look
[03:12] <djbryy> sethk, thank you.
[03:12] <Madpilot> dylan__, is there no #gnewsense channel?
[03:12] <oht> if i have a directory, that is set to root permissions, what is the easiest way to change the permissions to normal user read-write?   (i.e should i login to gnome as root and do it, or just use some sudo commands)?
[03:12] <GaiaX11> which is the command for me to know if i am using edgy? uname?
[03:12] <LjL> !gnewsense
[03:12] <ubotu> gNewSense is a GNU/Linux distribution based off Ubuntu with the aim of containing only free software. The Website is http://www.gnewsense.org Support in #gnewsense, NOT #ubuntu
[03:12] <livingdaylight> crimsun: i might need to restart X or even reboot
[03:12] <TGPO> dylan__, gah then either your going to have to switch or get help from those folks
[03:12] <andreuu> i cant mount my cdrom, says use apt-cdrom , but that says e: failed to mount the cdrom
[03:12] <dylan__> Madpilot, it includes noobs who can't help me.
[03:12] <bruenig> what is the new image viewer in edgy called?
[03:12] <dynamo> sudo chown user:user file
[03:12] <sethk> djbryy, that is the line we asked you to type at a command prompt.  The idea is, that starts an editor, which shows you the contents of the file.  Then you copy the contents, and paste it to the web site.
[03:12] <TGPO> dylan__, I dont know anything about using that to set up
[03:12] <crimsun> livingdaylight: not for said audio changes to take effect
[03:12] <oht> and if i were to use the terminal, what would the command be (to change the permissions of the directory and all the files in it to read write)
[03:12] <dynamo> for a dir,
[03:13] <dynamo> sudo chown -r user:user file
[03:13] <djbryy> ok!!!!
[03:13] <dylan__> TGPO, its dapper.  you have no spare machine?
[03:13] <dylan__> its fine.
[03:13] <dylan__> i guess...
[03:13] <livingdaylight> crimsun: skype has a test call thing to check whether voice is being recorded but now i can't even hear the lady introducingn the procedure
[03:13] <Madpilot> oht, stuff owned by root should generally stay owned by root - which directory is it?
[03:13] <oht> dynamo: ty
[03:13] <dynamo> yw
[03:13] <oht> Madpilot: some stuff i copied from an external hard drive
[03:13] <oht> media stuff
[03:13] <GaiaX11> Am I using edgy? Which is the command? uname?
[03:13] <TGPO> dylan__, I'm on my lappy in a hotel room, no spare play boxen handy .. dorry
[03:13] <TGPO> sorry
[03:13] <LjL> GaiaX11: cat /etc/issue
[03:13] <Madpilot> oht, yeah, in that case, what dynamo said
[03:13] <LjL> at least that's one way
[03:13] <dylan__> lol
[03:14] <dylan__> ok
[03:14] <MikeyMike> TGPO, i did it with--sync
[03:14] <andreuu> anyone help mount cdrom ?  i paste some of my /sys/var/log to http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/31123/
[03:14] <MikeyMike> same thing.. it even tells me to do it with --sync again
[03:14] <banditpanther> Hey.
[03:15] <andreuu> hello
[03:15] <banditpanther> how are you guys?
[03:15] <Thuggernaut> my brain is about to explode
[03:15] <banditpanther> ouch
[03:15] <banditpanther> why?
[03:15] <qubix__> anyone here run Nepenthes or know anything about it????
[03:15] <andreuu> im fine, my cd rom refuses to mount but , in fact there seems to be nothing in mnt
[03:15] <Flats> Real dumb question here.  I just installed the bittorrent-gui for ubuntu.  How do I run it?
[03:16] <aimtrainer> !mplayer
[03:16] <ubotu> mplayer is a media player. Enable multiverse repo and type sudo apt-get install mplayer for more info please see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MPlayer  To compile it from source see:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MPlayer/Compile
[03:16] <ubotu> For Codecs try !codecs Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MplayerInstallHowto for installation tips.
[03:16] <djbryy> sethk, ok it let me into this wierd thing called menu something!!??
[03:16] <Flats> It didnt put anything in my applications
[03:16] <mbb> anyone run a system limited to 600x800 video?
[03:16] <slinky_> Can anyone tell me how to install rhythmbox-0.9.6.tar.gz which i downloaded to the desktop?
[03:16] <sethk> andreuu, /mnt is a directory.  the convention in ubuntu is to use /media
[03:16] <aimtrainer> !beryl
[03:16] <ubotu> beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/  -  Please see #ubuntu-xgl for help with beryl.
[03:16] <Pelo> andreuu,   you know the cd/dvd read/burner will only mount if they have a cd/dvd in them
[03:16] <banditpanther> people here ask a lot of questions
[03:16] <andreuu> there is one
[03:16] <andreuu> ah media
[03:16] <djbryy> sethk, I did the thing you told me to do it works now what?
[03:16] <Flats> thought thats what this channel as 4
[03:16] <sethk> andreuu, however you can certainly create a directory in /mnt and use it as a mount point, just as you can create a directory anywhere to use as a mount point.
[03:16] <qubix__> anyone here run Nepenthes or know anything about it????
[03:17] <TGPO> banditpanther, thats what the channel is for
[03:17] <sethk> djbryy, I told you to copy the contents of the file, and paste the contents into the paste web site.
[03:17] <andreuu> when i was doing easy linux it said cant mount cdrom, use apt-cdrom
[03:17] <banditpanther> Oh
[03:17] <andreuu> ill have a fiddle with media
[03:17] <banditpanther> sorry, I'm new
[03:17] <Pelo> qubix__, ,  no need to ask every few seconds if someone can help they will try to
[03:17] <djbryy> sethk, there is nothing in this file!
[03:17] <banditpanther> what;s a good channel to go to?
[03:17] <slinky_> Pelo: I manager to download rhythmbox-0.9.6.tar.gz file to my desktop, now how do I install it?
[03:17] <Flats> bandit for what?
[03:18] <sethk> djbryy, that's unlikely.  the file may not exist.
[03:18] <Flats> depends what you want to talk about
[03:18] <Pelo> slinky_,  http://monkeyblog.org/ubuntu/installing/
[03:18] <banditpanther> Oh..
[03:18] <banditpanther> I have no idea =/
[03:18] <sethk> djbryy, saying a file does not exist is completely different than saying a file is empty.
[03:18] <slinky_> Pelo: site won't open :(, I'll try later
[03:18] <LjL> slinky_, problems with the version from the repos?
[03:18] <djbryy> sethk, ok it is empty then
[03:18] <banditpanther> what's the worst channel?
[03:18] <Pelo> slinky_,  you'll probably need to install build-essential from  synaptic first
[03:18] <sethk> djbryy, you can check whether the file exists by doing      su ls /boot/grub/menu.lst
[03:18] <sethk> djbryy, no, I very much doubt that it is empty
[03:18] <MikeyMike> my man file is broken for vino-server ../vino/vino-server:314: warning [p 10, 5.2i] : cannot adjust line
[03:18] <sethk> djbryy, it probably doesn't exist.
[03:18] <MikeyMike> it has tons of those kinds of lines
[03:18] <livingdaylight> crimsun: i got no sound at all now :|
[03:18] <slinky_> LjL, not available from repos or back
[03:18] <MikeyMike> can anyone explain why?
[03:18] <Flats> bandit you should try to understand what Internet relay chat is
[03:19] <LjL> !info rhythmbox | slinky_, uh?
[03:19] <ubotu> rhythmbox: music player and organizer for GNOME. In component main, is optional. Version 0.9.6-0ubuntu4 (edgy), package size 2910 kB, installed size 9420 kB
[03:19] <Flats> there really is no bad or good channels
[03:19] <djbryy> sethk, ok then so what should i do now?
[03:19] <banditpanther> I'm trying
[03:19] <sethk> djbryy, it sounds as if, during the ubuntu install, you either (1) told it not to install the bootloader, or (2) didn't tell it to install the bootloader to the mbr
[03:19] <Pelo> slinky_,    ok I will walk you trought it ,  first make sure you ahve the build essential package install from synaptic
[03:19] <Flats> bandit just depends what you want to talk about
[03:19] <banditpanther> okay
[03:19] <djbryy> sethk, what is the mbr?
[03:19] <banditpanther> thanks flats
[03:19] <niksoron> is there a way to suspend to disk from the command line on edgy. i did echo "disk" > /sys/power/state and the system is hung. no cursor, capslock
[03:19] <bruenig> slinky_, have you enabled the extra repos, because that version is available?
[03:19] <LjL> djbryy: Master Boot Record
[03:19] <sethk> djbryy, so what you should do is boot the live cd, and install grub.  Or boot a windows rescue disk, put the windows boot loader back on the hard drive, and forget about linux for the moment.
[03:19] <davef> anyone know how to get a usb sound card to reconnect after unplugging it and plugging it back in?
[03:19] <Flats> bandit here, It's a help channel for Ubuntu Linux
[03:19] <slinky_> LjL: i turn on back ports also and can't get it, any ideas as to how I can?
[03:20] <sethk> djbryy, google will give you thousands of hits that will tell you what an MBR Is.
[03:20] <LjL> niksoron: perhaps /etc/acpi/suspend.sh
[03:20] <Flats> Real dumb question here.  I just installed the bittorrent-gui for ubuntu.  How do I run it?
[03:20] <dynamo> lol
[03:20] <djbryy> sethk, ok so put the live disc in and do what?
[03:20] <LjL> slinky_: that makes me support you're on dapper...?
[03:20] <bruenig> Flats, double click a torrent file
[03:20] <niksoron> LjL, ok, will try that
[03:20] <dynamo> no don't go back to win
[03:20] <banditpanther> flats: what if I want to talk about baseball?
[03:20] <slinky_> LjL: yes
[03:20] <p0w> Hello, have a quick question: how do i boot without starting xserver?
[03:20] <livingdaylight> crimsun: ?
[03:20] <Pelo> Flats,  look in the menu under internet
[03:20] <Flats> bandit search for a baseball channel
[03:21] <LjL> slinky_, if you really need the newer version, perhaps you could get the Edgy *source* package (not the binary package), it might be easier to get it working
[03:21] <dynamo> just reinstall it and take most standard answers during install ;)
[03:21] <Tmob> anyone know if i can switch modes to enable and disable CRT output on my laptop?
[03:21] <slinky_> do i need to turn on universe and multiverse in LTS normal entries for repos
[03:21] <LjL> slinky_, "sudo apt-get build-dep rhythmbox" should help you, by installing the dependencies that are needed to compile it
[03:21] <Tmob> i would like to extend my desktop when i'm home.. but not do that when i'm not hooked up to the CRT
[03:21] <bruenig> slinky_, you can get the edgy deb from the online package thing
[03:21] <davef> flats: try ktorrent, it's lots more informative.   Anyhow, click on a torrent in your browser and have it run bittorrent or ktorrent on it.
[03:21] <Flats> pelo, didnt put it in my applications.  Lemme try clicking a torrent file
[03:21] <djbryy> sethk, live is to try the ver. of linux ubuntu not to download it.
[03:21] <Tmob> right now i can only clone my desktop onto the CRT by pressing laptops Fn+CRT button
[03:21] <sethk> p0w, you can modify your configuration so that X doesn't start at the run level (run level 1 for unbuntu is the default).
[03:21] <crimsun> livingdaylight: pastebin your amixer
[03:21] <antoni> hey. just installed 6.10 on another computer. however when the box boots up you can barley see the ubuntu logo. ideas?
[03:21] <sethk> djbryy, ok, since you obviously know more about the live cd than I do, I guess I won't be able to help you.
[03:22] <crimsun> livingdaylight: and asoundconf list
[03:22] <dynamo> antoni, i have that prob too with xubuntu
[03:22] <Pelo> Flats,  you might want to check in enable the link in the alacart menu editor
[03:22] <removeX> hey
[03:22] <cello_rasp> hi
[03:22] <bruenig> slinky_, here is the deb for the version you are trying to install http://mirrors.kernel.org/ubuntu/pool/main/r/rhythmbox/rhythmbox_0.9.6-0ubuntu4_i386.deb
[03:22] <removeX> haha
[03:22] <djbryy> sethk, oh yeah right... dont get all oh i know everything ... I know you might but why dont you just help me instead of put me down eh?
[03:22] <removeX> i have a problem
[03:22] <bruenig> slinky_, what I would do is sudo apt-get build-dep rhythmbox, then do sudo dpkg -i rhythmbox_0.9.6-0ubuntu4_i386.deb
[03:23] <sethk> djbryy, well, apparently you believe what I told you to do isn't correct.  So what can I do?
[03:23] <antoni> anybody else have this problem?
[03:23] <TGPO> removeX, all you can do is ask
[03:23] <andreuu> I try,   sudo mount iso9660 /media/cdrom /mnt/cdrom  , and putting -t in , it says 'not a block device'
[03:23] <removeX> i started out wiht Ubuntu, then installed XFCE and got rid of all the gnome i could, then i just tried to lay some KDE on top of my Xubuntu, but it ran out of space halfway through, so is ther e a way to get back to just the server
[03:23] <LjL> djbryy, you've just said nonsense - the Desktop CD (aka the "live" CD) is the main CD, used for installing Ubuntu as well as for "trying it out". then i don't know where "downloading" enters the picture, but sethk is right in that perhaps if you're looking for help you should not assume you already know what to do
[03:23] <slinky_> brueing: thank you, how did you find that indformation please
[03:24] <bruenig> removeX, just reinstall
[03:24] <removeX> oh yeah i forgot to mention, no CD drive.
[03:24] <cello_rasp> when ubuntu was instaled it shoudl feature the kde, xfce and gnome under different metapackages. removing ubuntu-desktop (for example) in aptitude would remove all the programs of ubuntu-desktop. try aptitude remove ubuntu-desktop xubuntu-desktop kubuntu-desktop
[03:24] <crimsun> LjL: I dunno, you can only smack people with bricks so often...
[03:24] <andreuu> also tried right clicking in places/computers and mount, but no joy
[03:24] <djbryy> LjL, omf I am just really confused alright? can you kust help me? I want help I do nnot know everything.
[03:24] <vio> hi
[03:24] <LjL> slinky_: from http://packages.ubuntu.com i'd guess
[03:24] <removeX> ok, in a recovery mode cello_rasp?
[03:24] <LjL> Ubotu, please tell slinky_ about packages
[03:24] <bruenig> slinky_, in the firefox that ubuntu comes with, in the search engine box there is an ubuntu package search engine. I used that to find the .deb, the other stuff I already knew
[03:24] <AsheD> what exactly does RAM being used as cache mean?
[03:25] <livingdaylight> crimsun: output of amixer; http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/31125/ Where is asoundconf.list listed?
[03:25] <cello_rasp> removex: no, on command line. ctrl+alt+F1
[03:25] <jkimball4> d
[03:25] <crimsun> livingdaylight: ``asoundconf list'' is another command
[03:25] <andreuu> AsheD means it reads stuff from the hard drive and keeps it there for quicker future acces
[03:25] <dynamo> removex, there's a way, google it, search for 'pure gnome' there's a instruction to get a clean xubuntu
[03:25] <AsheD> andreuu:: ah, that makes sense then
[03:25] <removeX> dynamo, followed it, problem runs a bit deeper tho.
[03:26] <cello_rasp> removex:  there is also a guide on the forums on how to install ubuntu entirely over the internet using debian floppies to get started.
[03:26] <crimsun> livingdaylight: you can't hear anything because 'PCM' is muted.
[03:26] <LjL> djbryy, honestly i don't even know what the problem is, i was following other discussions
[03:26] <dynamo> what's the error message?
[03:26] <removeX> no floppies...
[03:26] <andreuu> they have ram hardrives now :)
[03:26] <removeX> lol
[03:26] <djbryy> LjL: ok w/e tyvm
[03:26] <cello_rasp> no floppy, no CDrom?!?!
[03:26] <slinky_> I have looked and looked trying to find out how to determine what entry to add to the repository but can't find info anywhere, sorry
[03:26] <djbryy> sethk, are you still available?
[03:26] <crimsun> livingdaylight: as are Surround, Center, LFE, and Mic
[03:26] <andreuu> i have no cdrom too :))
[03:26] <crimsun> livingdaylight: you also need to mute 'IEC958'
[03:26] <livingdaylight> crimsun: lol, i thought it was like a sources.list in etc/apt or somewhere. It is: Names of available sound cards:
[03:26] <TGPO> removeX, how did you get it on there in the first place?
[03:26] <removeX> all external and busted this is an old p3 laptop and its all i got for the momemnt
[03:27] <livingdaylight> crimsun: Names of available sound cards:
[03:27] <livingdaylight> SI7012
[03:27] <cello_rasp> removeX: like I said you can clean up things by using aptitude
[03:27] <djbryy> sethk, are you still there? you seem to know most about my problem.
[03:27] <removeX> cello_rasp by using  aptitude remove ubuntu-desktop xubuntu-desktop kubuntu-desktop?
[03:27] <cello_rasp> yep
[03:28] <removeX> thank you
[03:28] <slinky_> bruenig: do you search for deb rhythmbox or what?
[03:28] <bruenig> slinky_, just rhythmbox
[03:28] <removeX> then use aptitude to reinstall whatever such as Xubuntu or ubuntu or Kubuntu
[03:28] <livingdaylight> crimsun: is there a command for doing those things or do i do that from a gui?
[03:28] <antoni> anybody know why i have a very dark screen @ ubuntu 6.10 bootup? i can barley see the logo & can't see any text underneath the logo.
[03:28] <slinky_> ok thank yoou
[03:28] <removeX> ?
[03:28] <cello_rasp> yeah, aptitude install ubuntu-desktop
[03:28] <cello_rasp> or whatever
[03:28] <removeX> thanks cello_rasp
[03:29] <LjL> crimsun, do you have a clue what mixer controls labelled "VIA DXS" would be? i've got four of them, and they clearly control the volume somehow, but i'm not entirely sure precisely how
[03:29] <djbryy> can anyone help me by any chance??
[03:29] <djbryy> no one wants to.
[03:29] <djbryy> ok.
[03:29] <slinky_> i was on web site for rhythmbox and found the tar file but don't understand how to find the value to put in repository entry
[03:29] <crimsun> LjL: on via chipsets, they control which registers receive control over the pcm signal
[03:29] <dynamo> well djbryy i asked u what the prob is
[03:29] <bruenig> antoni, the new usplash doesn't have any text underneath the logo. It is just that bar filling up
[03:29] <dynamo> lots of times
[03:29] <djbryy> dynamo, oh sorry.
[03:29] <cornell> sethk: badblocks finished, no output
[03:29] <LjL> djbryy, could you restate your problem perhaps? i guess i don't even have the original questions in my history
[03:29] <ubuntu_> im trying to install edgy on a HD with dapper already. when the install ask me about partitions, i only can format, delete and properties
[03:30] <ubuntu_> so, i cant resize. how can i do it?
[03:30] <cello_rasp> removeX: if you run aptitude on its own it will take you to a graphical list of all the software installed, which you can easily remove. it is handy.
[03:30] <crimsun> LjL: they're initialised to 80% in the alsa-utils initscript so that people whose hardware supports dxs have audible sound by default
[03:30] <dynamo> so djbryy what's up
[03:30] <djbryy> LjL, I am trying to get back to my other operating sys. windows XP and I dont know how any suggestions??
[03:30] <bruenig> antoni, should look like this https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseNotes?action=AttachFile&do=get&target=usplash.png
[03:30] <LjL> djbryy, can you reach Grub?
[03:30] <djbryy> dynamo, plz read what i have written to LjL
[03:30] <crimsun> LjL: dxs itself is a set of registers that, on newer via chipsets, allow pcm multiplexing (similar to emu10k1 and cs46xx chipsets)
[03:30] <dynamo> ok
[03:30] <jadacyrus-laptop> Is there a list of all the models supported by the nvidia driver?
[03:30] <djbryy> LjL, what is grub?
[03:30] <crimsun> LjL: unfortunately via's implementation sucks.
[03:30] <bruenig> !grub
[03:30] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[03:31] <andreuu> the nvidia drivers support everything from tnt onwards
[03:31] <LjL> crimsun, i.e. multiple PCM streams going to the soundcard concurrently and being mixed in hardware?
[03:31] <Pelo> g'night folks
[03:31] <jadacyrus-laptop> thx
[03:31] <ubuntu_> im trying to install edgy on a HD with dapper already. when the install ask me about partitions, i only can format, delete and properties. so i cant resize, how can i do it?
[03:31] <dynamo> djbryy, why u want back to the evil windows?
[03:31] <cornell> sethk, how do I "install" a bootloader, mbr, whatever?
[03:31] <livingdaylight> crimsun: so, am i attempting to resolve theissues you mentioned from alsamixer?
[03:31] <LjL> djbryy, it's the boot loader. do you have a menu when the system starts?
[03:31] <antoni> bruenig: oh. but i can barley see the logo and the bar. its looks pretty dark, ideas?
[03:31] <crimsun> LjL: "mix" is used a bit loose & fast. multiplexed, yes.
[03:31] <crimsun> livingdaylight: you may if you wish
[03:31] <dynamo> just mount the partition for the files you could need
[03:32] <livingdaylight> crimsun: sorry, but i was waiting for further instructions
[03:32] <Cpudan80> Ok - let me ask this again
[03:32] <bruenig> antoni, I don't have any ideas. I would however mention that I wouldn't worry about it too much, but that is just imho
[03:32] <Cpudan80> Anybody know about Wake-On-Lan?
[03:32] <Cpudan80> How to get it to work specifically
[03:32] <livingdaylight> crimsun: wondered whether you might give me another script/command
[03:32] <dynamo> you could add an entry in your /boot/grub/menu.lst to get into win
[03:32] <djbryy> LjL, yes i do if i press f2 but that takes me to BIOS but if i press "ESC" at a certain point it takes me into a bunch of ubuntu options...
[03:32] <MakubeX> hello all
[03:32] <andreuu> sethk, when I do sudo mount -t iso9660 /media/cdrom /mnt/cdrom1
[03:32] <andreuu> mount: /media/cdrom is not a block device
[03:32] <crimsun> livingdaylight: amixer set 'PCM' on && amixer set 'Surround' on && amixer set 'Center' on && amixer set 'LFE' on && amixer set 'IEC958' off
[03:32] <livingdaylight> crimsun: in alsamixer then, under each section there is a lock
[03:32] <bruenig> !hi | MakubeX
[03:32] <ubotu> MakubeX: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[03:32] <dynamo> copy the lin part, and change the hda number
[03:32] <djbryy> dynamo, yes i do man just t check something...
[03:32] <andreuu> im trying to install quake
[03:32] <andreuu> and tried a audio cd jus then
[03:33] <antoni> thx. if anyone else has ideas why the logo is dark on my monitor plz let me know
[03:33] <LjL> crimsun, guess you're right, though the term "multiplexing" together with "sound" and "linux" somehow gives me the creeps ;-) must be due to each of the various engines/drivers trying to do it by itself...
[03:33] <ubuntu_> im trying to install edgy on a HD with dapper already. when the install ask me about partitions, i only can format, delete and properties. so, i cant resize, how can i do it?
[03:33] <rowdy> join #ubuntu-chicago
[03:33] <LjL> djbryy: yes, i mean the "Esc" one. have you no Windows option there?
[03:33] <dynamo> ubuntu_, i think if you want to resize, you will lose your date
[03:33] <crimsun> LjL: it can be confusing at times.
[03:33] <dynamo> data
[03:33] <djbryy> LjL, No. there is no windows opt there.
[03:33] <LjL> djbryy: does your Ubuntu boot?
[03:33] <djbryy> LjL, yes
[03:34] <livingdaylight> crimsun: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/31129/ should this work now?
[03:34] <dynamo> djbryy, you might have overwritten your win partition?
[03:34] <ubuntu_> dynamo: what if i install without resize? i will lose data on dapper? what if i use the same name for home ?
[03:34] <LjL> djbryy: do you know which drive, and partition, your Windows installation resides in?
[03:34] <andreuu> i was just thinking that,
[03:34] <crimsun> livingdaylight: you have to attempt it
[03:34] <djbryy> LjL, no clue. even what you are talking about.
[03:34] <livingdaylight> crimsun: music works again :)
[03:34] <dynamo> is your /home on a separate partition?
[03:34] <ricardo> hi! I am trying to install ogre3d in Ubuntu. In Sympatic Manager I found libogre5c2a, can anyone tell me if that will install the ogre3D libraries?  Thanks a bundle - to me that is like magic
[03:36] <Tmob> anyone here use a laptop with CRT attached to it?
[03:36] <andreuu> bruenig, sudo mount -t iso9660 /etc/fstab/hdd /mnt/cdrom1 ?
[03:36] <LjL> djbryy: no, no quotes
[03:37] <dynamo> atarinox, sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade :-)
[03:37] <bruenig> andreuu, it is probably /dev/hdd not /etc/fstab/hdd
[03:37] <LjL> crimsun, how's that hardware multiplexing handled by ALSA (if at all)? and is there a reason why the levels are set to 80% rather than 100% by default?
[03:37] <djbryy> LjL, I dont know if it worked man.
[03:37] <andreuu> /dev/hdd        /media/cdrom0   udf,iso9660 user,noauto     0       0
[03:38] <kingace> are there any viable replacements to fireworks on ubuntu? other than gimp and inkscape?
[03:38] <andreuu> but sudo mount -t iso9660 /dev/hdd /mnt/cdrom1
[03:38] <LjL> djbryy: if the output is just one line (i.e. an error), paste it here directly
[03:38] <andreuu> special device does not exist :(
[03:38] <azureal> no audio w/ flash9beta on ff2 -- is this normal?
[03:38] <djbryy> LjL
[03:38] <livingdaylight> crimsun: sorry, that was my way of saying thank you :D
[03:38] <djbryy> LjL, nothing comes up
[03:38] <bruenig> andreuu, does that mount point exist?
[03:38] <andreuu> yep
[03:38] <bruenig> azureal, it is not normal I wouldn't think. I have sound
[03:38] <andreuu> tried /media/cdrom1 and media/cdrom as well
[03:38] <dynamo> djbryy, no was for Ubugtu
[03:38] <niksoron> there is no /etc/acpi/suspend.sh but there is a acpi/suspend.d with many scripts in there
[03:39] <dynamo> ubuntu_,
[03:39] <dynamo> i mean
[03:39] <dynamo> whatever :)
[03:39] <LjL> djbryy: ok, type this and tell me what the output is:   df | grep / | head -1
[03:39] <andreuu> pasted var/sys/log thingy here http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/31123/ if that helps at all ?
[03:39] <niksoron> in edgy, is there a way to suspend to disk from the command line
[03:39] <bruenig> andreuu, well that is the device, I don't know why it isn't mounting, is there anything in it. Generally it automounts. If it didn't automount, it likely doesn't recognize whatever you put in it so it won't mount manually
[03:39] <Boelcke> azureal, I've got flash9beta on ff1.5, and the audio has never been more synchronized...
[03:39] <dynamo> but you can do it too, won't hurt
[03:39] <andreuu> its a q3 arena cd but *sob*
[03:39] <andreuu> light doesnt even go on
[03:40] <azureal> Boelcke, could you tell me what you have in your firefox/plugins?
[03:40] <bruenig> andreuu, those other mountpoints you tried aren't specified in the file either. Not that this would work but the mount point ought to be, according to the fstab, /media/cdrom0
[03:40] <djbryy> LjL, this is the output...      bash: /: is a directory
[03:40] <crimsun> LjL: hardware multiplexing is not alsa's concern. We (each driver) tells the hardware to handle it, and if it can't we propagate the error back up to alsa-lib.
[03:41] <djbryy> LjL, is that good or bad?
[03:41] <andreuu> bruenig, same thing about special device not existing
[03:41] <LjL> djbryy, it's strange. just type "df" and pastebin the output
[03:41] <crimsun> LjL: obviously users don't like staring at errors, so we use a catch-all, alsa-lib's software mixing (dmix+dsnoop), by default
[03:41] <livingdaylight> crimsun: just wondering now how to use alsamixer to mute and un-mute stuff?
[03:41] <bruenig> andreuu, yeah I figured. I don't get it. Hardware failure?
[03:41] <niksoron> hi, anyone know if a way in edgy to suspend to disk from the command line
[03:41] <andreuu> fine in windows
[03:41] <crimsun> livingdaylight: the gui or the console app?
[03:41] <andreuu> seems to see it in syslog
[03:42] <bruenig> andreuu, well I got nothing then
[03:42] <livingdaylight> crimsun: the gui
[03:42] <andreuu> its a ricoh one...
[03:42] <crimsun> LjL: it's set to 80% because 100% distorts horribly. Some users are complaining that 80% is too loud and want it set to 50% by default. Some people can't hear anything unless it's 80% or higher. As you can see, we can't please everyone.
[03:42] <LjL> crimsun, well, i guess that even when there *is* hardware multiplexing, being limited to at most 4 streams wouldn't be great at any rate, so using software still makes sense...
[03:42] <niksoron> livingdaylight, thanks. i am looking to do it from command line
[03:42] <Likwidoxigen> I can't access anything in my system->administration menu and I assume it has something to do with my group file that i though i restored it fully however i'm assuming not. Does anyone have a fix or can they pastebin therir group file?
[03:42] <djbryy> LjL, ok you get it my name in it is djbryy
[03:42] <djbryy> LjL, ??
[03:42] <cornell> sudo grub-install /dev/hda yields "Could not find device for /boot: Not found or not a block device"
[03:43] <LjL> djbryy, could you just give me the URL please? i cannot find it by name
[03:43] <djbryy> ok
[03:43] <andreuu> i mean i could just copy the files from my windows partition, but a cd/dvd copuld be handy im thinking
[03:43] <cornell> Shouldn't mke2fs (or whatever it is) do this?
[03:43] <crimsun> livingdaylight: click the speaker icons above each column
[03:43] <djbryy> LjL, here it is as followed- http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/31132/
[03:43] <niksoron> how to find out what does the suspend icon call. does it call a script?
[03:43] <LjL> crimsun: distorsion at 100% does sound like something's broken in the hardware :-\
[03:44] <crimsun> LjL: integrated sound is very nearly always crap
[03:44] <crimsun> crap dsps, crap codecs.
[03:44] <LjL> djbryy: ok, type (carefully)  "sudo fdisk -l /dev/sda"
[03:44] <crimsun> bus noise, etc.
[03:44] <thomaslai> hi I am using Nautilus 2.16 in Ubuntu 6.10. Is there a way to revert back the menu navigation view back to the version 2.14?
[03:44] <djbryy> LjL, alright man u da boss
[03:44] <LjL> crimsun: and horrible DC offset in the microphone, in my case. i'd be very glad to use my ISA SB AWE64, but no ISA slots anymore here ;(
[03:44] <livingdaylight> crimsun: and then there are the white dots under the speaker icons and the grey and red ones?
[03:44] <cornell> Well guys.... gotta go, thanks all, TTFN
[03:45] <andreuu> cya i boot too
[03:45] <LjL> bruenig, wasn't his fault - i asked him to use /dev/hda earlier instead of /dev/sda
[03:45] <djbryy> LjL, are there 2 spaces between eachword?
[03:45] <LjL> djbryy, uhm, no.
[03:45] <djbryy> LjL, how many?
[03:45] <LjL> one
[03:46] <LjL> sudo[space] fdisk[space] -l[space] /dev/sda
[03:46] <Apollo> can anyone tell me where the gcc app is? i know it's installed cause apt and synaptic tell me it is.
[03:46] <LjL> !info gcc | Apollo
[03:46] <ubotu> gcc: The GNU C compiler. In component main, is optional. Version 4:4.1.1-6ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 5 kB, installed size 64 kB
[03:46] <niksoron> can anyone help me to find out what does the suspend icon call. i want to learn how to suspend from command line
[03:46] <MrKeuner> hi, when I try to run avahi-discover I get this error: Introspect error: The name org.freedesktop.Avahi was not provided by any .service files and then a traceback follows. What may be the problem?
[03:46] <djbryy> LjL: nothing happend
[03:47] <djbryy> LjL: went back to my user name
[03:47] <livingdaylight> crimsun: what about the locks at the bottom?
[03:47] <SeAofSaRo> hey guys, i was walking a friend through beryl setup on his system that has an ATI card
[03:47] <SeAofSaRo> when he boots now, his screen turns black and it takes him back to the login screen, regardless of what session
[03:48] <SeAofSaRo> he can access terminal though
[03:48] <Apollo> yeah but is there an area in the app drop down list? how do i start it?
[03:48] <LjL> djbryy: uh... that seems weird, try "sudo sfdisk -l /dev/sda"
[03:48] <crimsun> livingdaylight: the red dots signify which channels of which elements are toggled for Capture
[03:49] <Likwidoxigen> I can't access anything in my system->administration menu and I assume it has something to do with my group file that i though i restored it fully however i'm assuming not. Does anyone have a fix or can they pastebin therir group file?
[03:49] <crimsun> livingdaylight: the locks signify whether level adjustment is locked between channels
[03:49] <djbryy> Lj:, ok that was wiered it worked
[03:49] <djbryy> LjL, want me to paste it?!??!
[03:49] <LjL> djbryy: pastebin the output
[03:49] <livingdaylight> crimsun: Finally, can Edgy handle more than one sound application? like if i was playing music and was on skype?
[03:49] <Apollo> i've used dev c++ a little and i would like to try a linux c/c++ enviorment
[03:49] <crimsun> LjL: that's why I use usb audio
[03:49] <crimsun> livingdaylight: need more context.
[03:50] <AdamKili> checking for X... configure: error: Can't find X libraries. Please check your installation and add the correct paths!
[03:50] <AdamKili> What package do i need? searching for libx gets to many results
[03:50] <LjL> crimsun: well, right now i'm hoping to get my hands on a PCI SB Live!, hopefully that's not going to be *too* bad
[03:50] <livingdaylight> crimsun: more context? if i'm using voip can i also play music.?
[03:50] <djbryy> LjL, ok here is the URL, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/31134/
[03:51] <crimsun> livingdaylight: on the same card? that's not alsa's prerogative, as I explained above to LjL
[03:51] <LjL> AdamKili: xserver-xorg-dev might do it
[03:51] <jessmon__> gretings!!Is there a way to determine if I have either the "alternate" or desktop" install cd?
[03:51] <djbryy> LjL, did you get that?
[03:51] <livingdaylight> crimsun: in teh past ubuntu wasn't so good at handling several ....ah...just read your reply...so one thing at a time
[03:51] <crimsun> livingdaylight: if your sound hardware can do it, then it does. If it can't, you can only attempt to hack around it. (Your hardware can't.)
[03:51] <djbryy> LjL: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/31134/
[03:51] <MrKeuner> jessmon__: In the root of the cd there is a file that includes the name of the cd
[03:51] <GenNMX> What's the default resolution for Ubuntu?
[03:51] <LjL> djbryy: yes. do you have another hard drive? that drive doesn't appear to have any Windows partitions on it
[03:52] <crimsun> GenNMX: depends on the output device's supported modes.
[03:52] <cablesm102> I've been using Adobe Flash 9 Beta for a while, but today it started completely crashing Firefox whenever I go to a page that uses Flash. I tried using Flash 7 (stable) but that also crashed. I started the LiveCD, and tried installing Flash on that, but it also had the same problem. This has never happened before. What's going on?
[03:52] <LjL> GenNMX: 1280x1024 if it can, i think
[03:52] <jessmon__> thanks mrkeuner
[03:52] <crimsun> cablesm102: you should only have one Flash version installed.
[03:52] <djbryy> LjL, no i do not I have one HD of 250 g's.
[03:52] <cablesm102> crimsun, I know.
[03:52] <cablesm102> Only one is installed
[03:52] <GenNMX> Ubuntu is defaulting to a resolution not supported by my monitor. I have proper Modelines for 1920x1200, the optimal resolution.
[03:52] <pi1l> hello
[03:52] <MrKeuner> cablesm102: it might be a new firefox extension
[03:52] <GenNMX> Hmm alright, I'll make a Modeline for 1280x1024.
[03:52] <djbryy> LjL, I only have one Hard Drive.
[03:53] <cablesm102> MrKeuner, no changes have been made to Firefox when it started happening
[03:53] <cablesm102> Also, it's crashing in the liveCD also
[03:53] <andreuu> my dvd didnt appear in bios, so I poked the cable seemed fine, next boot it appeared in bios
[03:53] <Likwidoxigen> I can't access anything in my system->administration menu and I assume it has something to do with my group file that i though i restored it fully however i'm assuming not. Does anyone have a fix or can they pastebin therir group file?
[03:53] <andreuu> still cant mount special device
[03:53] <dynamo> cablesm102, type export XLIB_SKIP_ARGB_VISUALS=1 and then firefox
[03:53] <cablesm102> dynamo, what will that do?
[03:53] <andreuu> noticed a "failed to initialize HAL"  when ubuntu booted this time though
[03:53] <AdamKili> LjL: it didn't work
[03:54] <andreuu> uninstalled BUM which is the only thing I changed but no go
[03:54] <dynamo> prevent FF from crashing on flash sites
[03:54] <djbryy> LjL, dude?
[03:54] <LjL> djbryy: well, the Ubuntu partitions only seem to take about 60Gb indeed. but there still are no Windows partitions mentioned... try "sudo cfdisk /dev/sda", and be very careful with what you touch
[03:54] <LjL> djbryy, calm down. i have ten fingers and one brain.
[03:54] <cello_rasp> dynamo: its flash that is crashing, not firefox
[03:54] <niksoron> echo "disk" > /sys/power/state
[03:55] <LjL> djbryy: tell me if cfdisk shows anything that looks like a Windows partition, or an "extended" partition
[03:55] <djbryy> LjL, sorry man. my mother is getting Fache and wants me in bed
[03:55] <niksoron> hangs my system
[03:55] <Likwidoxigen> can someone please pastebin their /etc/group file?
[03:55] <dynamo> oh i thought, flash sites in firefox...
[03:55] <GenNMX> djbryy: Kinky.
[03:55] <cello_rasp> dynamo: you can program flash to crash in many ways
[03:55] <dynamo> :D
[03:55] <LjL> AdamKili: try xlibs-dev then
[03:56] <cello_rasp> if it's every flash site with the latest plugin, then you probably have a problem on the PC :)
[03:56] <djbryy> GenNHX, I know eh?
[03:57] <djbryy> LjL, anyways I wrote it in and now what do i do again?
[03:57] <LjL> djbryy: pastebin
[03:57] <LjL> djbryy: and then hit "q"
[03:57] <cello_rasp> cablesm102: launch firefox from the terminal and go to a flash site, it will report any errors back to you
[03:58] <andreuu> Likwidoxigen,  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/31135/
[03:58] <chapium> what the hell
[03:58] <djbryy> LjL, how do i put this in pastebin?
[03:59] <chapium> ubuntu cannot play a dvd
[03:59] <djbryy> LjL, it wont let me copy it
[03:59] <andreuu> go to  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[03:59] <Likwidoxigen> andreuu: thatnk you so much
[03:59] <jrib> !dvd | chapium
[03:59] <ubotu> chapium: For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html  -  libdvdcss can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[03:59] <Likwidoxigen> andreuu: thank*
[03:59] <andreuu> :)
[03:59] <chapium> jrib, thanks
[03:59] <LjL> djbryy, i don't know, it lets me copy it fine here (but i'm in Kubuntu)
[03:59] <djbryy> LjL, yes it wont work here
[03:59] <LjL> djbryy: just tell me if there's anything else mentioned other than "sda1" and "sda2" if you can't get it to copy
[04:00] <livingdaylight> crimsun: d'you run Kubuntu?
[04:00] <djbryy> there is only SD1 & SD2
[04:00] <SeAofSaRo> how can i remove something from session startups via terminal
[04:00] <djbryy> And something else called free space
[04:00] <andreuu> seems most ppls 'cant initialize HAL' problems just mysteriously disappear... ill reboot again
[04:00] <livingdaylight> LjL: you too. lots of people helping in #ubuntu from their Kubuntu desktops
[04:00] <LjL> djbryy, i couldn't swear on it, but i'd say that either your partition table is corrupted, or your Windows partition doesn't exist anymore, or both
[04:01] <djbryy> LjL, thats what most peopel say so what do you suggest?
[04:01] <LjL> livingdaylight, is that bad? clearly, i tend to avoid giving Gnome-specific help
[04:01] <djbryy> LjL, re-install windows?
[04:01] <AdamKili> thanks LjL, it working so far.....
[04:01] <AdamKili> its*
[04:01] <livingdaylight> LjL: lol, of course not... i have kubuntu as my secondary ls :D
[04:02] <livingdaylight> *os
[04:02] <LjL> djbryy: if you had no important data on the previous Windows partition, then yes, reinstalling is what i'd do. if you have important data, well... perhaps try testdisk
[04:02] <MrKeuner> When I try to run avahi-discover I get this error: Introspect error: The name org.freedesktop.Avahi was not provided by any .service files. Then a traceback follows. What may be the problem?
[04:02] <LjL> djbryy: to start with, try this - run "sudo fdisk /dev/sda", and then hit "v" and then Enter, and tell me what it says
[04:02] <djbryy> LjL, what is the thing called "testdisk
[04:02] <LjL> !testdisk
[04:02] <ubotu> testdisk: Partition scanner and disk recovery tool. In component universe, is optional. Version 6.4.1-1 (edgy), package size 459 kB, installed size 1232 kB
[04:03] <djbryy> LjL, it says,,, 351651887 unallocated sectors
[04:03] <niksoron> i want to learn how to suspend from command line
[04:04] <LjL> djbryy: hm, and that's all it says?
[04:04] <GenNMX> OK, now I forced the VertRefresh to 60 with the HorizSync the appropriate 75, and my monitor still says the resolution is out of range. Ugh.
[04:04] <daniel43058> I'm a newbie Hello
[04:04] <jrib> !hi | daniel43058
[04:04] <ubotu> daniel43058: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[04:04] <djbryy> LjL, after i type "v" yes
[04:04] <djbryy> LjL, this is what it says b4 that
[04:05] <LjL> djbryy, type "q" to exit. honestly, i don't know what has happened to your Windows - you could try testdisk as i said, but you're alone there, because i never used it myself
[04:05] <DavidCraft> hey i hooked a separate (good) hard drive to the computer.  The hard drive has two partitions.  Ubuntu is giving me an error "cannot mount volume" but it DOES pick up teh two different partitions
[04:05] <AdamKili> checking for KDE... configure: error: in the prefix, you've chosen, are no KDE headers installed. This will fail. So, check this please and use another prefix!
[04:05] <AdamKili>  just making sure: do i need the package kdebase-dev to solve this?
[04:05] <GenNMX> All resolutions with my monitor support at least 60Hz. I don't know what to try from here.
[04:05] <DavidCraft> why is it doing this and how do i fix it?
[04:05] <djbryy> LjL, The number of cylinders for this disk is set to 30401.
[04:05] <djbryy> There is nothing wrong with that, but this is larger than 1024,
[04:05] <djbryy> and could in certain setups cause problems with:
[04:05] <djbryy> 1) software that runs at boot time (e.g., old versions of LILO)
[04:05] <djbryy> 2) booting and partitioning software from other OSs
[04:05] <djbryy>    (e.g., DOS FDISK, OS/2 FDISK)
[04:05] <MrKeuner> oo
[04:05] <LjL> djbryy, use the pastebin!
[04:05] <daniel43058> genNMX, just got through resolving that resolution problem on my install of 5.04, after about 3 hours I got it to work
[04:05] <djbryy> LjL, sorry !!!!!!!
[04:06] <GenNMX> daniel43058: What was your resolution? (the answer, that is)
[04:06] <LjL> djbryy, try "sudo gparted /dev/sda" as a last attempt, see if that shows any Windows partitions
[04:06] <niksoron> is the method by which edgy does suspend documented somewhere?
[04:06] <djbryy> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/31137/
[04:06] <daniel43058> edited the xorg.conf file, changed my default depth to 16 instead of 24...
[04:07] <daniel43058> sorry that's defaultdepth, all one word
[04:07] <djbryy> LjL, that was not the right command i dont think...
[04:07] <djbryy> LjL, it didn't recognize it.
[04:07] <GenNMX> daniel43058: I'll try it, but it all seems odd. This is a $1500 monitor, it's not some old crappy one.
[04:08] <LjL> djbryy: err well admittedly the syntax was horrible. look, just run it from (if i recall correctly) System / Administration / Disk editor or-something-likethat
[04:08] <daniel43058> you can say that again, I picked up the monitor and the tower at a second hand store...
[04:08] <djbryy> LjL, ok I am in it.
[04:09] <djbryy> LjL, now what?
[04:09] <LjL> djbryy: how many partitions do you see graphed?
[04:09] <sethk> the message about the number of cylinders always happens and means nothing
[04:09] <DavidCraft> hey i hooked a separate (good) hard drive to the computer.  The hard drive has two partitions.  Ubuntu is giving me an error "cannot mount volume" but it DOES pick up teh two different partitions
[04:09] <DavidCraft> why is it doing this and how do i fix it?
[04:09] <LjL> sethk: i know, though in that case it's quite a big number of cylinders (not surprising since most of the HD seems to be "empty")
[04:09] <djbryy> LjL, there is a "SWAP" and a "PARTITION 1"
[04:10] <cablesm102> I have the latest version of Beagle installed, but it's not indexing my thunderbird email. The thunderbird index is about 200 k, but when I search for things I know should be  there, it only finds thunderbird newsfeeds.
[04:10] <LjL> djbryy: which take like 1/4 of the drive, the rest being empty?
[04:10] <sethk> LjL, he said he had a 70 gig partition for linux, so it doesn't really sound bit to me
[04:10] <djbryy> LjL, what?
[04:10] <sethk> s/bit/big
[04:10] <LjL> djbryy: the graph.
[04:10] <djbryy> LjL, what about it?
[04:10] <LjL> djbryy: there is a graph with coloured bars. how many do you see, and what are the colors?
[04:11] <djbryy> LjL, I dont have a graph on mine.
[04:11] <djbryy> LjL I still only have 5.1
[04:11] <djbryy> LjL, a friend gave it to me.
[04:11] <LjL> sethk: well at any rate he said the drive is 250Gb, so there definitely appears to be a lot of "free" space...
[04:12] <Jordan_U> djbryy: sudo apt-get install gparted
[04:12] <GenNMX> daniel43058: Yeah that worked, but it still doesn't make any sense.
[04:12] <djbryy> Jordan_U, what will that do for me??
[04:12] <Jordan_U> djbryy: I think you are using a different application than what LjL is thinking of, I think he wants you to use gparted.
[04:12] <LjL> djbryy: install the GParted partition editing program. guess 5.10 doesn't have it by default
[04:13] <djbryy> LjL, ok where do i find that?
[04:13] <AdamKili> checking for KDE... configure: error: in the prefix, you've chosen, are no KDE headers installed. This will fail. So, check this please and use another prefix!
[04:13] <AdamKili>  just making sure: do i need the package kdebase-dev to solve this?
[04:13] <LjL> Jordan_U: well yes, i believed the disk editor in the System menu was GParted
[04:13] <LjL> djbryy: type what Jordan_U said
[04:13] <djbryy> LjL, I did.
[04:14] <djbryy> LjL, now what?
[04:14] <LjL> AdamKili: i'd make it just kdelibs4-dev for starters
[04:14] <LjL> djbryy: now type "gksudo gparted"
[04:14] <djbryy> y/n?
[04:14] <Jordan_U> djbryy: Now go to System -> administration -> gnome partition editor
[04:14] <LjL> djbryy: ah, wait. Y.
[04:14] <djbryy> LjL, ok it is doing shit.
[04:15] <jkimball4> join ##c
[04:15] <LjL> !language
[04:15] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[04:15] <LjL> djbryy: it is installing it.
[04:15] <djbryy> LjL, sorry i didn;t mean to!!
[04:15] <slinky_> LjL: i could not find version 0.9.6 in Dapper but found it in Edgy but after i downloaded it and tried to install with GDebi I got an error "Dependency is not Satisfiable: libatk1.0-0", i checked and that library is installed, any ideas? I have the tarball on the desktop
[04:15] <djbryy> LjL, what is the program called?
[04:15] <djbryy> LjL, that i just downloaded?
[04:15] <LjL> slinky_: gparted
[04:16] <LjL> djbryy: gparted (sorry slinky_, that wasn't meant for you)
[04:16] <b33r-> can anyone help me get sound blaster audigy value drivers?
[04:16] <saleh> hello guys...
[04:16] <daniel43058> I know, please google the following: ubuntu fixvideoresoultion - this is an article that led to the correction, not an explanation though, gotta go, bye
[04:16] <slinky_> LjL: lol, i think so
[04:16] <djbryy> LjL, ?!??! what?
[04:16] <Jordan_U> djbryy: gparted or gnome partition editor
[04:16] <slinky_> i'll just use VLC instead, thanks for your help
[04:16] <cablesm102> I waited for Edgy to use Amarok 1.4 so I could import my AAC library, but it crashes when I try to import ANYTHING. The memory usage starts going up through the roof, and I have to stop it before it hits the top and locks up my machine.
[04:16] <LjL> slinky_, actually i don't see a libatk1.0-0 neither in dapper nor in edgy... :-\
[04:17] <slinky_> LjL, i have it installed
[04:17] <djbryy> Jordan_U, do i run that from administration??
[04:17] <Clin1> Help, Can some one help me install Blue Fish
[04:17] <djbryy> Jordan_U, or command prompt?
[04:17] <Jordan_U> djbryy: I belive so, the menu might be different in 5.1
[04:17] <LjL> slinky_: true, it's just the bot that says it doesn't exist. well you probably need a newer version for rhythmbox 0.9.6
[04:17] <Jordan_U> djbryy: gparted from the terminal will work
[04:17] <djbryy> Jordan_U yeah i think it is !
[04:18] <slinky_> LjL: I do like videoLAN, so i'll use that until I upgrade to Edgy, thanks a million
[04:18] <LjL> slinky_: you could get that from Edgy as well, but i wouldn't recommend that.
[04:18] <Clin1> Can some one please help me install bluefish
[04:18] <GeekZoid> hi all
[04:18] <slinky_> LjL: I KNOW when to surrender after 40 years in the business :)
[04:18] <djbryy> Jordan_U, it wont let me ... it says i need to be on <root>
[04:18] <Steven_M> is there an ubuntu package for syncrhonet bbs?
[04:18] <cablesm102> !ubotu
[04:18] <GeekZoid> i just installed apache2 and i'm looking for the mod_env module
[04:18] <b33r-> LjL: do u know where to get drivers for creative sound blaster value sound card?
[04:18] <GeekZoid> what package is that in i am using dapper
[04:18] <saleh> for compiling C++ what should i do???
[04:18] <GeekZoid> and tried installign apache2-comon
[04:18] <hfhf> everyone make sure to seed edgy and dapper's torrents
[04:19] <oht> I'm running a 64 bit edgy system, i'm following these instructions to install nvidia-glx: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia   , in reference to the part where it says to select the appropriate module for my kernel, i searched for said string, and i'm finding a list of packages, linux-restricted-modules-[kernel version number] -generic, which is installed, and then some various restricted modules below that which the comments claim are o
[04:19] <oht> bseleted by the one that is installed, i downloaded the nivida-glx packages (and the dev packages), and when i tried to run nvidia-glx-config enable from the terminal, it says, Error: unable to load nvidia kernel driver! Be sure to have installed
[04:19] <oht> the nvidia driver for your running kernel.
[04:19] <Jordan_U> djbryy: gksudo gparted
[04:19] <jrib> saleh: install build-esential and use g++
[04:19] <LjL> b33r-, no, but somehow i feel they're built in
[04:19] <djbryy> b33r, you can get good soundblasters from CC
[04:19] <Clin1> HFHF | what are you talking about?
[04:19] <cablesm102> oht, have you tried manually editing xorg.conf?
[04:19] <Jordan_U> djbryy: type that in the terminall
[04:19] <slinky_> b33r, dapper worked fine on my SB Live
[04:19] <oht> cables: to say 'nvidia' instead of 'nv'?
[04:19] <djbryy> Jordan_U, ok that worked !!!
[04:19] <b33r-> slinky_:  I installed edgy today and it's not auto detecting
[04:19] <cablesm102> oht, yep
[04:20] <saleh> jrib: build-esential is the package name???
[04:20] <Volodya> vere download dvd decoder for windows media player??
[04:20] <djbryy> LjL, are you still there!?!??
[04:20] <hfhf> do you know what bittorrent is?
[04:20] <slinky_> b33r: thanks for the info
[04:20] <jrib> saleh: build-essential, I made a typo
[04:20] <LjL> djbryy, yes. have you started gparted yet?
[04:20] <campbch> ello
[04:20] <oht> cables: is that all the ...-config enable command does?
[04:20] <Clin1> Can some one please help me install BlueFish it wont instal by apt-get
[04:20] <cablesm102> Volodya, I'm not sure what you're asking, but I'm fairly sure you're in the wrong place.
[04:20] <GeekZoid> Does anyone know if dapper has the mod_env module for apache2?
[04:20] <djbryy> LjL, lolerskaterz yes i do
[04:20] <Clin1> Geek
[04:20] <cablesm102> oht, for me the config command didn't work, but editing xorg.conf did the trick
[04:20] <Clin1> Im useing the mod
[04:20] <igor> where i can find the plugins for .wmv videos?
[04:20] <djbryy> LjL, now what would you like me to do?
[04:20] <Clin1> on 6.06
[04:20] <cablesm102> oht, make sure to backup the file first
[04:20] <slinky_> good night folks, and thanks again
[04:20] <LjL> djbryy: so how many partitions does it show? (how many names / how many bars / which colors)
[04:20] <campbch> has anyone had any experience getting opengl screensavers to show on full screen on an i810? right now, it's limited to the top third or so, and i've got the drivers and everything installed
[04:21] <GeekZoid> OK. Clinl: which package did you install?
[04:21] <oht> right, ok i'll give it a shot
[04:21] <djbryy> slinky_, ok peace man
[04:21] <Clin1> I haave Xamp :p
[04:21] <cablesm102> oht, to backup type this: cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.old
[04:21] <derek_> um.....sorry to interrupt, i am a noobie with linux and was wondering where can I get g++, my compiler,AdJunta IDE couldn't find it....oh yah I have the Dapper version
[04:21] <GeekZoid> Clinl: hh?
[04:21] <Clin1> Lampp
[04:21] <GeekZoid> lamp
[04:21] <GeekZoid> at-get install lamp?
[04:21] <Clin1> iLampp
[04:21] <djbryy> LjL, a white one a marronish pink one and a blueish cyan one
[04:21] <saleh> jrib: thanks...
[04:21] <LjL> derek_: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[04:21] <igor> where i can find the plugins for .wmv videos?
[04:21] <cablesm102> oht, then change nv to nvidia, and do a ctrl-alt-backspace.
[04:21] <Clin1> no
[04:21] <Clin1> atlease
[04:21] <Clin1> i dont thin
[04:21] <LjL> djbryy: and they take up the whole bar?
[04:22] <Jordan_U> !restricted | igor
[04:22] <ubotu> igor: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[04:22] <derek_> thanks
[04:22] <Clin1> I did it manual
[04:22] <djbryy> LjL, yes why?
[04:22] <GeekZoid> so you compiled from scratch?
[04:22] <GeekZoid> i dont wanna do that :(
[04:22] <Clin1> Try apt-cache search Lampp
[04:22] <LjL> djbryy: because the other partitioning programs seem to imply otherwise - i.e. that your Linux partitions do *not* take up the entire hard drive.
[04:22] <GeekZoid> oh ok thank you let me see
[04:22] <cablesm102> oht, here's a good guide
[04:22] <djbryy> LjL, so I still have windows somewhere?
[04:23] <campbch> aaannyyybooddyyy? i've checked xorg.conf, and i have the correct package installed, and the screensavers are the only things not working correctly
[04:23] <GeekZoid> clinl.. nothing came up except python
[04:23] <DavidCraft> hmm NEW problem
[04:23] <Clin1> They dont have it them
[04:23] <GeekZoid> hmm
[04:23] <Clin1> up google Lampp
[04:23] <oht> cablesm102: eh?
[04:23] <DavidCraft> why is my external drive showing as 'read only'? lol
[04:23] <Clin1> and go to Appachefriends
[04:23] <LjL> djbryy: i doubt it, honestly. anyway, look at the top right, where it says "/dev/sda" - what's the number it mentions?   and what are the numbers mentioned on the two bars?
[04:23] <GeekZoid> oh ok
[04:23] <Jordan_U> campbch: Are you running Edgy?
[04:23] <GeekZoid> for binaries
[04:23] <saleh> how could i know what packages r needed for openGL???
[04:24] <Clin1> you going to have to do it mauel
[04:24] <djbryy> LjL, !!47693mb
[04:24] <LjL> djbryy: that's the box on the top right?
[04:24] <djbryy> LjL, yes
[04:24] <MarcN> campbch: no screensavers at all?
[04:24] <LjL> djbryy: then your hard drive is 50Gb, not 250
[04:24] <LjL> djbryy: and i don't think you have Windows installed.
[04:24] <campbch> im running dapper
[04:24] <djbryy> LjL, for linux it is 50!
[04:25] <djbryy> LjL, my whole HD is 250!
[04:25] <campbch> and it is running very smoothly on the top 1/3 of my screen
[04:25] <saleh> how could i know what packages r needed for "openGL"???
[04:25] <Clin1> Can some one help me install BlueFish
[04:25] <jbroome> sudo apt-get install bluefish
[04:25] <jbroome> there
[04:25] <LjL> djbryy, that's not what gparted is saying though, apparently. maybe it's wrong, but then if it's wrong, i don't know how to fix that
[04:25] <Clin1> IT DONT WORK
[04:25] <Clin1> TRY IT
[04:25] <LjL> !caps
[04:25] <ubotu> PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[04:25] <djbryy> LjL, ok well will you be on tomorrow?
[04:25] <Jordan_U> djbryy: This is kind of hard to diagnose through text, can you send a screenshot?
[04:25] <djbryy> LjL, I have to go to bed.
[04:26] <LjL> djbryy: probably
[04:26] <djbryy> LjL, ok
[04:26] <saleh> how could i know what packages r needed for "openGL"???
[04:26] <Clin1> Its not like i havent done that
[04:26] <djbryy> file:///home/djbryy/Desktop/Screenshot.png
[04:26] <campbch> saleh: opengl should already be supported, if it works :o
[04:26] <jbroome> Clin1: is the universe repo enabled?
[04:26] <TGPO> *chuckle*
[04:26] <LjL> djbryy, we can't access your local files.
[04:26] <djbryy> Jordan_U, this is the screenshot
[04:26] <Clin1> root@cchance:/home/admin# sudo apt-get install bluefish
[04:26] <Clin1> Reading package lists... Done
[04:26] <Clin1> Building dependency tree... Done
[04:26] <Clin1> E: Couldn't find package bluefish
[04:26] <Clin1> root@cchance:/home/admin#
[04:26] <LjL> Ubotu, please tell Clin1 about paste
[04:26] <jbroome> !info bluefish
[04:26] <ubotu> bluefish: advanced Gtk+ HTML editor. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.6-1 (edgy), package size 1568 kB, installed size 6728 kB
[04:27] <_zardoz_> "E: Couldn't find package compiz" how do I fix that? I get it when I do sudo apt-get install compiz xserver-xgl libgl1-mesa xserver-xorg libglitz-glx1 compiz-gnome
[04:27] <LjL> Clin1, enable universe
[04:27] <saleh> campbch: thanks, i go and try...
[04:27] <djbryy> LjL, what ??? omg I have to go you guys tyvm for the help but i have to log off... come on tomorrow
[04:27] <Jordan_U> djbryy: Can you send it to me, that is just the file path.
[04:27] <Clin1> Thaat was Flooding?
[04:27] <campbch> it was annoying.
[04:27] <LjL> Clin1, yes.
[04:27] <jbroome> more than three lines, yes
[04:27] <Jordan_U> djbryy: Ok, goodnight
[04:27] <LjL> jbroome: no
[04:27] <djbryy> Jordan_U, how do u send it?
[04:27] <atarinox> why is this dist-upgrade taking so very long
[04:27] <Clin1> oh, Weell no i know
[04:28] <LjL> there's no "golden three lines" rule. flood is flood, either use one line or use the pastebin
[04:28] <djbryy> Jordan_U, HOW DO I SEND IT?
[04:28] <atarinox> i think it wouldve been quicker to do a fresh sintall
[04:28] <Jordan_U> djbryy: right click on my name in xchat
[04:28] <flyinghippo> !caps
[04:28] <ubotu> PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[04:28] <flyinghippo> :)
[04:28] <LjL> djbryy, i think there's a site called imageshack that allows you to post screenshots
[04:28] <oht> cablesm102: to pm?
[04:28] <djbryy> Jordan_U ok I sent it!
[04:29] <campbch> anyways, marcn i've been trying to get them working, so i made sure i had the packages, i checked xorg.conf and it is using the drivers, and i'd worked with someone else on another thing and know that everything that should be enabled is enabled
[04:29] <djbryy> Jordan_U ok good?
[04:29] <campbch> dang
[04:29] <Clin1> is their any way of installing Bluefish
[04:29] <campbch> does anyone know why opengl screensavers are only showing on the top third of the screen?
[04:29] <Clin1> It wont comple for me
[04:29] <LjL> Clin1: yes, enabled Universe.
[04:29] <LjL> Ubotu, please tell clin1 about universe
[04:29] <Jordan_U> djbryy: I didn't recieve it, I think you may have to register to send files on freenode, let me find out how to enable recieving files from non registered users...
[04:29] <LjL> s/enabled/enable/
[04:30] <ReWT_AxS> my fans wont shut off >.<
[04:30] <ReWT_AxS> helllllp
[04:30] <ReWT_AxS> they are annoying as hell
[04:30] <campbch> are there FLAMES?! ;p
[04:30] <ReWT_AxS> im running edgy
[04:30] <ReWT_AxS> nope
[04:30] <hfhf> does anyone know how to create a channel?
[04:30] <sethk> hfhf, temporarily?  you just /join it
[04:30] <LjL> hfhf, ask on #freenode
[04:30] <xplic1t> just join it and it's yours
[04:30] <TGPO> hfhf type /j and then the channel name
[04:30] <ReWT_AxS> type /join #channelnameyouwanttocreate
[04:30] <hfhf> alright thanks guys
[04:30] <sethk> hfhf    if you join a channel that doesn't exist, it will be created, although it won't persisten
[04:30] <Clin1> One Sec im enabling Universe
[04:31] <ReWT_AxS> someone help me to get fans shut off >.<
[04:31] <LjL> ReWT_AxS: turn the machine off :)
[04:31] <saleh> how to see the result of compiled code called "a.out"?
[04:31] <LjL> saleh: "see"? you want to see the binary code?
[04:32] <atarinox> so anyone have a favorite windows manager?...something which looks decent and is relatively easy on resources
[04:32] <Clin1> Ok so i un commented the last 8 lines
[04:32] <Clin1> right?
[04:32] <Rookie_> you asking for someone with the same taste as you ? and within uknown ppl ?
[04:32] <igor> where can i find the plugins for .wmv videos?
[04:32] <Alethes> atarinox:  xfce4 looks nice and is light
[04:32] <saleh> donno... i just compiled c++ and now i have sompiled file named "a.out"
[04:32] <LjL> Clin1: perhaps. i don't know what's on your last 8 lines - the website does mention that using the GUI is the recommended method anyway
[04:32] <Jordan_U> djbryy: Could you post it on imageshack ?
[04:32] <TGPO> atarinox, fluxbox is light and easy
[04:32] <LjL> Clin1: at any rate, if you have enabled it succesfully, type "sudo apt-get update", and then you should be able to install it
[04:33] <jrib> !codecs > igor
[04:33] <Clin1> deb-src http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper-security main restricted
[04:33] <Clin1> deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper-security universe
[04:33] <Clin1> deb-src http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper-security universe
[04:33] <atarinox> Alethes: does xfce4 come with xubuntu edgy?
[04:33] <LjL> saleh, you'll want to execute it i guess. it's an executable program file.
[04:33] <ReWT_AxS> anyone?
[04:33] <Clin1> deb http://ee.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper-backports main restricted universe multiverse
[04:33] <Alethes> yeah
[04:33] <Clin1> deb-src http://ee.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper-backports main restricted universe multiverse
[04:33] <Clin1> deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper-security main restricted
[04:33] <Jordan_U> djbryy: http://imageshack.us/
[04:33] <ReWT_AxS> Clin stop
[04:33] <Clin1> Un comment those right?
[04:33] <jrib> !paste | Clin1
[04:33] <ubotu> Clin1: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[04:33] <saleh> i know. my question is what command should i use?
[04:34] <LjL> saleh:  ./a.out
[04:34] <saleh> oh... i remeber... sorry and thanks....
[04:34] <saleh> best regards
[04:34] <quik_> hey folks
[04:35] <campbch> ack
[04:35] <oht> what is XvMC and do i need to enable it in edgy? (just installed the nvidia driver)
[04:35] <Zububwa> can someone walk me through installing ndiswrapper on ubuntu
[04:36] <Zububwa> in pm
[04:36] <LjL> !pm
[04:36] <ubotu> Please ask your questions in the channel so that other people can also benefit. Please don't PM a user in the channel without asking first.
[04:36] <crimsun> oht: it's enabled by default for chipsets that support it.
[04:36] <oht> crimsun: ok, cool, (i'm assuming the 6600 gt supports it?)
[04:36] <Clin1> Sorry, i got it open noe
[04:36] <LjL> Clin1: and no, you need to enable it for "dapper" and "dapper-updates", not just for "dapper-security"
[04:36] <Clin1> now*
[04:38] <Clin1> On im updating the pc
[04:38] <b33r-> can anyone help me get sound blaster audigy value drivers?
[04:38] <Clin1> I used to have soundblaster
[04:38] <Clin1> it sucked
[04:38] <Clin1>   ;)
[04:39] <josephoenix> how do
[04:39] <josephoenix> argh
[04:39] <josephoenix> keyboard not loving me :\
[04:39] <Clin1> Dag gum these unuverse files are like HUGE
[04:39] <jbroome> they're as big as the universe
[04:40] <Clin1> my Keyboard loves me
[04:40] <Clin1> Yeah one of thems hitten 10 MB
[04:41] <[SUDO] Tux> YES
[04:41] <josephoenix> anyway, is there an apt-get line to install the tools needed ./configure && make && make install?
[04:41] <GenNMX> part
[04:41] <[SUDO] Tux> does anyone know if you can run BattleFeild 1942 in ubuntu?
[04:41] <ReWT_AxS> why the fuck wont these god damn fans stop running in edgy?
[04:41] <ReWT_AxS> >.<
[04:41] <Clin1> Can some one do me a huge Favor. Test to make sure my site is open to the public     http://cmweb.zapto.org
[04:41] <Jordan_U> josephoenix: sudo apt-get install build-essentials , what are you trying to install?
[04:41] <[SUDO] Tux> does anyone know if you can run BattleFeild 1942 in ubuntu?
[04:41] <TGPO> [SUDO] Tux, www.winehq.com look there
[04:42] <Clin1> ReWt plese mind you wordage
[04:42] <josephoenix> Jordan_U, thanks
[04:42] <Xaero_Vincent> [SUDO] Tux, WINE or Cadega
[04:42] <Steven_M> has there been a fix for the sounds problems in flash yet?
[04:42] <[SUDO] Tux> TGPO have you ran it?
[04:42] <crimsun> Steven_M: aside from using flash 9 beta?
[04:42] <josephoenix> Jordan_U, "can't find package"
[04:42] <cosm0z`> Clin1, i came up with a login page
[04:42] <Jordan_U> josephoenix: sudo apt-get install build-essential ( sorry, no "s" on the end )
[04:42] <TGPO> [SUDO] Tux, nope, go look there though if its listed you can play it
[04:43] <[SUDO] Tux> TGPO, Do you know if you can run GTA?
[04:43] <Xaero_Vincent> GTA works
[04:43] <TGPO> [SUDO] Tux, go to http://www.winehq.com the games are listed THERE
[04:43] <[SUDO] Tux> okay
[04:43] <josephoenix> Jordan_U, tanks
[04:43] <josephoenix> *thanks
[04:43] <josephoenix> can't type today
[04:43] <Clin1> Does Ubuntu have a Ps@ Emu?
[04:44] <[SUDO] Tux> TGPO where do you find the list? you gotta seaarch?
[04:44] <Jordan_U> josephoenix: Chances are you won't need to compile most programs manually, have you tried enableing other repositories?
[04:44] <TGPO> [SUDO] Tux, one would think the apps database
[04:44] <josephoenix> Jordan_U, I'm trying to compile a program I'm writing to graph the mandelbrot set ;]
[04:44] <Steven_M> crimsun: can you get flash 9 beta for ubuntu?
[04:44] <Clin1> Hey whos got the Cell Phone?
[04:44] <pianoboy3333> Steven_M: yes
[04:44] <josephoenix> don't think it's in any repositorys yet
[04:44] <Clin1> or is on Verison
[04:44] <pianoboy3333> Steven_M: add seveas's repos
[04:45] <Jordan_U> Clinton__: Yes, search in synaptic for it.
[04:45] <TehKewl1> I compile most of my programs, I find it... satisfying
[04:45] <pianoboy3333> josephoenix: seveas has it
[04:45] <josephoenix> pianoboy3333, what are ye talking about? o.O
[04:45] <pianoboy3333> josephoenix: you said I don't think it's in any repos....
[04:45] <saleh> how could i know what packages r needed for "openGL"???
[04:45] <cablesm102> I have the latest version of Beagle, and I want it to index my Thunderbird email. Right now, it's only indexing my Thunderbird newsfeeds.
[04:45] <Jordan_U> josephoenix: And you'r sure you havn't made an Ubuntu repository for it ;)
[04:46] <josephoenix> pianoboy3333, allow me to restate... I -know- it isn't in any repos :P
[04:46] <Jordan_U> saleh: You should already have openGL installed by default.
[04:46] <pianoboy3333> josephoenix: I _know_ it's in seveas's repository
[04:46] <josephoenix> pianoboy3333, how? I just started writing it today!
[04:46] <Steven_M> pianoboy3333: would that break dapper
[04:47] <Steven_M> ?
[04:47] <pianoboy3333> Steven_M: doubt it
[04:47] <pianoboy3333> nope
[04:47] <[SUDO] Tux> does anyone know what frostwire is?
[04:47] <MrKeuner> When I try to run avahi-discover I get this error: Introspect error: The name org.freedesktop.Avahi was not provided by any .service files. Then a traceback follows. What may be the problem?
[04:47] <pianoboy3333> [SUDO] Tux: it's like limewire, no?
[04:47] <pianoboy3333> josephoenix: I thought youw ere talking about flash beta 9
[04:47] <josephoenix> [SUDO] Tux, its' a cool name, anyway
[04:47] <Jordan_U> [SUDO] Tux: Yes, it's a limewire client.
[04:47] <josephoenix> pianoboy3333, eh.. already got that
[04:47] <josephoenix> ;]
[04:47] <[SUDO] Tux> jordan_u: i seem to have gotten it to download and install
[04:47] <[SUDO] Tux> but i cant get it to run
[04:48] <[SUDO] Tux> any help?
[04:48] <pianoboy3333> Steven_M: add deb http://seveas.imbrandon.com dapper-seveas all to your /etc/apt/sources.list
[04:48] <[SUDO] Tux> says i need JRE
[04:48] <Zububwa> can anyone walk me through installing ndiswrapper in a pm?
[04:48] <Jordan_U> !java | [SUDO] Tux
[04:48] <ubotu> [SUDO] Tux: To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java  -  For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository
[04:49] <Lam_> kmplayer didn't purge itself correctly.  how do i remove entries from the "Open with..." drop down?
[04:49] <Steven_M> pianoboy3333:  I've never heard of thoughs repos, is the softwore in them pretty safe
[04:50] <[SUDO] Tux> ubotu: i've tried to install that forever, and i can never seem to get it to work
[04:50] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about i've tried to install that forever, and i can never seem to get it to work - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:51] <cablesm102> [SUDO] Tux, Ubotu is a robot
[04:51] <[SUDO] Tux> oh haha
[04:51] <cablesm102> !ubotu
[04:51] <[SUDO] Tux> Jordan_u: i can't ever get that installed
[04:52] <Jordan_U> [SUDO] Tux: Look at the link ubotu gave.
[04:52] <honk_> Good gnome-based C IDE?
[04:52] <[SUDO] Tux> i did, i think it may be working...
[04:52] <[SUDO] Tux> wow, nice...
[04:52] <[SUDO] Tux> im getting the free java, anything wrong with dat?
[04:52] <honk_> oops, my english professor would not be proud
[04:52] <honk_> *ahem*
[04:53] <honk_> *What* is a good gnome-based C IDE?
[04:53] <[SUDO] Tux> OOPS, you don't seem to have a valid JRE. FrostWire works best with Sun JRE available at http://www.java.com... anything?
[04:53] <Jordan_U> [SUDO] Tux: I don't think so, frostwire says it works best with sun's though.
[04:53] <josephoenix> isn't blackdown a bit behind sun's?
[04:54] <[SUDO] Tux> is sun free too?
[04:54] <josephoenix> yep
[04:54] <[SUDO] Tux> okay lol
[04:54] <Jordan_U> [SUDO] Tux: Free as in beer yes, just not open source.
[04:55] <Xaero_Vincent> not yet anyway
[04:55] <Xaero_Vincent> i read J2SE is going GPL
[04:55] <[SUDO] Tux> i got this at package installer "error: dependency is not satasfyable:sun-java5-jre
[04:56] <[SUDO] Tux> jordan_u i got this at package installer "error: dependency is not satasfyable:sun-java5-jre
[04:56] <Jordan_U> [SUDO] Tux: Do you have the multiverse repository enabled?
[04:56] <[SUDO] Tux> jordan_u: umm...
[04:57] <[SUDO] Tux> jordan_u: i have no clue what that is.. i am a noob at ubuntu
[04:57] <Jordan_U> !repository | [SUDO] Tux
[04:57] <ubotu> [SUDO] Tux: The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[04:57] <[SUDO] Tux> jordan_u: trying to learn
[04:57] <Trixsey> Do any of you gentlemen know of a good program to run SSH?
[04:57] <sethk> Trixsey, ssh
[04:57] <Trixsey> oh, was that easy
[04:57] <Trixsey> lol
[04:58] <cablesm102> Firfeox just started crashing on pages with Flash. I was told to run "export XLIB_SKIP_ARGB_VISUALS=1" and then start firefox. It works, but only if I start firefox from the same terminal I typed the command into. Is there any way to make this automatic when starting Firefox?
[04:58] <chloe> i have no clue what im doing, iwant to be able to use yahoo chat, how do ido that?
[04:58] <Tony_Sidaway> Hi, problem with Sis  630/730  (sis driver) on X after upgrading from 5.10 (Breezy Badger) to 6.06 (LTS/Dapper Drake).
[04:58] <sethk> chloe, install gaim, it supports yahoo
[04:58] <[SUDO] Tux> Jordan_U: i dont get it...
[04:59] <[SUDO] Tux> Jordan_U: is it worth it to get frostwire?
[04:59] <cablesm102> sethk, Gaim is preinstalled.
[04:59] <chloe> gaim, now can i use gaim to talk for yahhoo?
[04:59] <sethk> cablesm102, no such thing as preinstalled.  there are a number of different installation options you can use.
[04:59] <Jordan_U> [SUDO] Tux: If you really like pirating music I guess it is :)
[04:59] <Tony_Sidaway> Dunno what the problem was, just seemed to decide that the LCD monitor couldn't handle the clocks, or something.
[05:00] <[SUDO] Tux> Jordan_U: ha, does it got lotsa music?
[05:00] <deadhobo> Is it possible that an option in xorg.conf could damage a monitor?
[05:00] <Jordan_U> [SUDO] Tux: It uses the same network as limewire
[05:00] <cablesm102> chloe, go to the Accounts menu, then go to Add/Edit. This should open automatically if it is the first time using Gaim. Then click Add, then choose Yahoo from the dropdown list. Put in your information, and you should be good to go.
[05:00] <[SUDO] Tux> letsee, what else did i want to know...
[05:00] <oht> deadhobo: yes, if you try to use refresh rates your monitor could handle
[05:00] <Jordan_U> [SUDO] Tux: I found a howto: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FrostWire
[05:00] <oht> *couldn't handle :P
[05:00] <[SUDO] Tux> Jordan_U: Sniff... for me? :D
[05:01] <saleh> how could i know what packages r needed for "openGL"??? it seems its not already install
[05:01] <khermans> anyone need help?
[05:01] <khermans> lol
[05:01] <deadhobo> oht, Hm, sounds like that could be my problem
[05:01] <cablesm102> khermans, cut it out
[05:01] <Clin1> Yeah me
[05:01] <khermans> cablesm102, hrm ?!?
[05:01] <Jordan_U> saleh: Why do you think it isn't installed?
[05:01] <Ecko2056> does anyone know of an ipod/philips app that will let me upload songs to my player? id really need it to work on a philips gogear,,
[05:01] <deadhobo> oht, the image on screen is all garbled and it is making a high-pitched whine :/
[05:01] <b33r-> !codecs
[05:01] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[05:01] <oht> deadhobo: yeah, you gotta watch out for that :(    it's good to get the exact specs on the resolutions/refresh rates that your monitor can handle
[05:02] <cablesm102> Firfeox just started crashing on pages with Flash. I was told to run "export XLIB_SKIP_ARGB_VISUALS=1" and then start firefox. It works, but only if I start firefox from the same terminal I typed the command into. Is there any way to make this automatic when starting Firefox?
[05:02] <oht> deadhobo: hmm, you might have to somehow connect that system to another monitor and reset your xorg file to something your other monitor could handle
[05:02] <pilibeen> happy 11/11
[05:02] <Jordan_U> cablesm102: Yes, first start alacarte menu editor.
[05:02] <khermans> cablesm102, export XLIB_SKIP_ARGB_VISUALS=1 >> sudo tee /etc/bash.bashrc
[05:02] <cps1966> !java
[05:02] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java  -  For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository
[05:02] <Clin1> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/31142/
[05:02] <khermans> ugg nad syntax
[05:03] <cablesm102> khermans, thanks
[05:03] <khermans> cablesm102, typo on my end -- just add it to your bashrc file
[05:03] <cablesm102> khermans, thanks
[05:03] <deadhobo> oht: Well, I can switch xorg.conf's driver to nv and it works just fine; I tried hooking up an external monitor the other day anyway and it was blank
[05:03] <cablesm102> good timing, I was about to hit enter :)
[05:03] <saleh> i included <GL\glut.h> but 'GL_COLOR_BUFFER_BIT was not declared in this scope
[05:03] <dougb> If I want to download torrents in Ubuntu using Bittorrent, what port do I need to have open on my router?
[05:03] <deadhobo> oht: Through console, that is
[05:03] <oht> anyone know if there is a way to customize the nautilus toolbar? (delete/add icons, don't show text)
[05:03] <jbroome> dougb: you can usually set it in the client
[05:03] <Clin1> I just pasted something
[05:04] <dougb> jbroome, do you know how to using the default bittorrent client you get with ubuntu?
[05:04] <khermans> dougb, you should enable UPnP if you can
[05:04] <[SUDO] Tux> Jordan_U: again, it says i dont have jave
[05:04] <[SUDO] Tux> Jordan_U: *java
[05:04] <saleh> and many other not deslared error
[05:05] <khermans> [SUDO] Tux, sudo aptitude install sun-java5-plugin
[05:05] <oht> deadhobo: hmmm...all i can suggest is trying to get your xorg file back to resolutions your monitor can handle (if that is in fact the problem)
[05:05] <saleh> how could i know what packages r needed for "openGL"??? it seems its not already in my liberery
[05:05] <jbroome> dougb: no, i use azureus
[05:05] <cablesm102> [SUDO] Tux, are you having problems with Java?
[05:05] <Clin1> Hello...... http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/31142/
[05:05] <[SUDO] Tux> Starting FrostWire...
[05:05] <[SUDO] Tux> Java exec found in PATH. Verifying...
[05:05] <[SUDO] Tux> OOPS, you don't seem to have a valid JRE. FrostWire works best with Sun JRE available at http://www.java.com
[05:05] <[SUDO] Tux> OOPS, unable to locate java exec in  /usr/lib/  hierarchy
[05:05] <[SUDO] Tux> You need to upgrade to JRE 1.4.x or newer from http://www.java.com
[05:05] <[SUDO] Tux> ls: /usr/java/j*: No such file or directory
[05:05] <[SUDO] Tux> OOPS, unable to locate java exec in  /usr/java/  hierarchy
[05:05] <[SUDO] Tux> You need to upgrade to JRE 1.4.x or newer from http://www.java.com
[05:05] <Clin1> Stop Flooding
[05:05] <[SUDO] Tux> ls: /opt/j*: No such file or directory
[05:05] <[SUDO] Tux> OOPS, unable to locate java exec in  /opt/  hierarchy
[05:05] <[SUDO] Tux> You need to upgrade to JRE 1.4.x or newer from http://www.java.com
[05:06] <[SUDO] Tux> oops
[05:06] <jbroome> nice
[05:06] <[SUDO] Tux> sorry guys
[05:06] <[SUDO] Tux> im sorry i forgot
[05:06] <deadhobo> oht: thanks... I'll try messing around with it some more
[05:06] <jbroome> C&P is hard
[05:06] <khermans> [SUDO] Tux, fix your /etc/jvm file
[05:06] <lonran> buenas noches
[05:06] <saleh> anyone can help me?
[05:06] <Clin1> OK i paasted something is no one going to help
[05:06] <[SUDO] Tux> khermans: where is that? how do i do that? what is that? lol
[05:07] <saleh> how could i know what packages r needed for "openGL"??? it seems its not already included in my c++ libereries
[05:07] <TehKewl1> yes, I built a debian package for vidalia!
[05:07] <khermans> [SUDO] Tux, did you install the package i told you to?
[05:07] <khermans> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java#head-fef9352fb26820bb774df978180c9dd3a60e777b
[05:07] <[SUDO] Tux> khermans: yes:sudo aptitude install sun-java5-plugin
[05:07] <khermans> ok,  then do the last command i sent you
[05:07] <khermans> at the link
[05:08] <TehKewl1> now can someone put the dependancies in and make it ubuntu style
[05:08] <Tonren> Arrrrrrrgh!  Every music player for Linux sucks!
[05:08] <saleh> how could i know what packages r needed for "openGL"??? it seems its not already included in my c++ libereries
[05:08] <Clin1> GRRRRRR...... Come on i was told to use the paste bin and it dont work wtf
[05:08] <Jordan_U> saleh: That is a different story, you have opengl, what you need are the development packages, let me look...
[05:08] <khermans> saleh, are you building something from source?
[05:08] <oht> Tonren: i feel your pain
[05:08] <oht> :P
[05:08] <TehKewl1> Tonren, Amarok is an exception
[05:08] <Tonren> TehKewl1: I just threw myself into using amaroK, and I just uninstalled it
[05:08] <TehKewl1> I know people who switched to linux just for Amarok
[05:08] <oht> Amarok is bloated and slow IMO  :/
[05:09] <khermans> Try Banshee -- it is nice too
[05:09] <Clin1> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/31145/
[05:09] <TehKewl1> Amarok is pure pwnage
[05:09] <Clin1> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/31145/
[05:09] <Tonren> TehKewl1: It's a little slow, but whatever.  What bugs me is the fricking DYnamic PLaylists.  They are SO BLOODY BUGGY.
[05:09] <oht> lol
[05:09] <Tonren> TehKewl1: How is it pure pwnage to have Rammstein start playing in the middle of a Dynamic Playlist called "Chill"?
[05:09] <oht> lol
[05:09] <[SUDO] Tux> khermans: where is /etc/jvm?
[05:09] <Tonren> oht: I just opened up XMMS for the first time and I had no idea what the hell to do.
[05:09] <MakubeX> :))
[05:09] <oht> Tonren: hmm...yeah, it's a bit cryptic i guess
[05:09] <Ecko2056> will Amarok let me upload music to my Philips Gogear?
[05:09] <Tonren> For a while I used MPD/GMPC, but I was tired of not having any real playlist support.
[05:09] <TehKewl1> it's just like winamp... unfortunately
[05:09] <saleh> i'm just writing from my lestur notes the simplest exmple but there r many not desleared error
[05:09] <Tonren> TehKewl1: Are you serious?
[05:09] <khermans> [SUDO] Tux, follow this -- forget /etc/jvm --> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java#head-fef9352fb26820bb774df978180c9dd3a60e777b
[05:10] <Tonren> TehKewl1: I LOVE WinAmp!!!
[05:10] <oht> ;)
[05:10] <Clin1> AHHHHHHHHHHH, ok why aam i like on ignore
[05:10] <lonran> i boot the system, but when it tries to check the partitions it takes soooo long. At the end, the gdm appears but after login, it works also veeery slow, any idea?
[05:10] <[SUDO] Tux> khermans: i did, still no frostwire
[05:10] <khermans> [SUDO] Tux, if you are asking where is /etc/jvm, then i dont even know how to start helping you
[05:10] <khermans> [SUDO] Tux, what is the issue?
[05:10] <deadhobo> If I were to put "Option "IgnoreEDID" " 1"" in my xorg.conf, where does it go?
[05:10] <[SUDO] Tux> directory does not exist: /usr/lib/jvm/java-1.5.0-sun
[05:10] <saleh> it means all the functions i used, is not decleard
[05:10] <khermans> [SUDO] Tux, what version of Ubuntu is this?
[05:11] <Clin1> please dont make me do it
[05:11] <oht> anybody know the main differences between XMMS and Beep Media Player?
[05:11] <[SUDO] Tux> khermans: breezy badger i thinks
[05:11] <Tonren> oht: tehKewl1: It doesn't have a media library.  :\
[05:11] <Ecko2056> TehKewl1, will Amarok let me upload music to my Philips Gogear?
[05:11] <Clin1> It will flood this room out
[05:11] <khermans> [SUDO] Tux, wtf -- you need something newer dude
[05:11] <oht> Tonren: yeah :P
[05:11] <TehKewl1> most likely, if you can get it to mount
[05:11] <khermans> [SUDO] Tux, get edgy
[05:11] <jbroome> Clin1: i see you, i just don't care
[05:11] <TehKewl1> http://www.cohepso.com/Tehkewl1/vidalia_0.0.9-1_i386.deb
[05:11] <Tonren> FAIL.
[05:11] <[SUDO] Tux> khermans how?
[05:11] <Tonren> Man... every single player...
[05:11] <Tonren> Quod Libet was underwhelming, too.
[05:11] <khermans> [SUDO] Tux, either upgrade or reinstall
[05:11] <oht> there was a wincrash audio player i absolutely loved, called foobar2000
[05:11] <TehKewl1> someone make that ubuntu friendly and put the dependancies in there
[05:11] <[SUDO] Tux> khermans will it delete everything on my current ubuntu
[05:11] <Tonren> amaroK would've been PERFECT if it didn't insist on playing Rammstein during my Chill Playlist.
[05:11] <Clin1> FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKk im goin to bed
[05:11] <[SUDO] Tux> khermans ?
[05:11] <oht> i would love to see a foobar linux port
[05:11] <khermans> [SUDO] Tux, not if you upgrade
[05:12] <Jordan_U> Clin1: I was actually about to help you, i guess you don't want to be helped :(
[05:12] <[SUDO] Tux> khermans where do i upgrade?
[05:12] <khermans> oht, run foobar in wine
[05:12] <khermans> [SUDO] Tux, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EdgyUpgrades?highlight=%28edgy%29
[05:12] <oht> khermans: i'm trying to avoid wine :/
[05:12] <khermans> oht, well is foobar opne source?
[05:12] <oht> khermans: not really, but he's released most of the source (not gpl)
[05:12] <saleh> i'm still waiting friends
[05:12] <khermans> oht, where is it?
[05:13] <[SUDO] Tux> khermans: i dont have drapper drake
[05:13] <saleh> nobody can help me???
[05:13] <Tonren> Oh for god's sakes
[05:13] <[SUDO] Tux> khermans: says i need that before i can have edgy
[05:13] <Tonren> Does RhythmBox not have support for custom global hotkeys?!
[05:13] <oht> the sdk for foobar has alot of the source (i doubt it woudl be enough to make a port though)
[05:13] <Tonren> This really makes me want to make my own music player that doesn't suck.
[05:13] <oht> Tonren:  :D
[05:13] <khermans> [SUDO] Tux, then do a double-upgrade
[05:13] <Tonren> oht: How can there be so many music apps that all suck?!
[05:13] <saleh> how could i know what packages r needed for "openGL"??? it seems its not already included in my c++ libereries
[05:13] <oht> Tonren: i dunno!
[05:14] <khermans> [SUDO] Tux, but i would recommed backing up your data and doing a fresh install
[05:14] <eric> My mouse won't click anything.
[05:14] <eric> I'm in IRSSI right now.
[05:14] <[SUDO] Tux> khermans: haha u think i know how to do that?!
[05:14] <khermans> saleh, i already asked you why you need to know this
[05:14] <Clin1> how do i go about fixing this"
[05:14] <eric> I don't want to restart X>
[05:14] <Clin1> E: Could not get lock /var/cache/apt/archives/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[05:14] <Clin1> E: Unable to lock the download directory
[05:14] <eric> So... what can I do?
[05:14] <Tonren> oht: If only I knew the first thing about GUI programming, or any app programming at all!  :D
[05:14] <khermans> saleh, are you compiling from source?
[05:14] <Tonren> oht: What amazes me is that through this whole Web 2.0 phenomenon, NO audio players have picked up on the concept of "tags".
[05:14] <saleh> yes
[05:14] <khermans> saleh, what does it say is missing?
[05:15] <saleh> i include <GL\glut.h>
[05:15] <[SUDO] Tux> khermans: i dont understand a thing anyone is saying right now
[05:15] <saleh> but it days the functions r not decleared
[05:15] <eric> My mouse just won't click - anyone have any suggestions?
[05:15] <Tonren> ::Sighs:: I guess I'm going back to MPD/MPC.
[05:15] <khermans> [SUDO] Tux, sudo aptitude install xlibmesa-gl-dev
[05:15] <jbroome> is it plugged in?
[05:15] <eric> Yeah.
[05:15] <eric> I can move it around.
[05:15] <[SUDO] Tux> khermans: what will this do?
[05:15] <cosm0z`> Clin1, i came up with a login page
[05:16] <saleh> for Ex glBegin was not declared in this scope
[05:16] <Clin1> on my site?
[05:16] <eric> It simply won't click anything, though.
[05:16] <khermans> saleh, sudo aptitude install xlibmesa-gl-dev
[05:16] <khermans> [SUDO] Tux, sorry wrong guy
[05:16] <[SUDO] Tux> ok lol
[05:16] <Tonren> Hmm.... I wonder how WinAmp runs in wine
[05:16] <b33r-> I'm having a hard time putting my mp3z from my fat32 and NTFS partitions on xmms playlist can anyone help? :$
[05:16] <[SUDO] Tux> khermans: so i will just go from bb to dd then from dd to edgy
[05:16] <Clin1> Cosm0z | On my site?
[05:16] <saleh> thx khermans, i try that  and come backone
[05:17] <[SUDO] Tux> khermans: how do i see what version of ubuntu i got?
[05:17] <[SUDO] Tux> khermans: i may have upgraded it lol
[05:17] <khermans> [SUDO] Tux, cat /etc/lsb-release
[05:17] <Clin1> :( no one will taalk to me
[05:18] <[SUDO] Tux> DISTRIB_ID=Ubuntu
[05:18] <[SUDO] Tux> DISTRIB_RELEASE=6.06
[05:18] <[SUDO] Tux> DISTRIB_CODENAME=dapper
[05:18] <[SUDO] Tux> DISTRIB_DESCRIPTION="Ubuntu 6.06.1 LTS"
[05:18] <[SUDO] Tux> that means dapper?
[05:18] <Clin1> Sudo you got what i got
[05:18] <jbroome> i would think so
[05:18] <Clin1> lloll
[05:18] <connie_lh> Hello everyone. Could someone please share with me the command needed to start my mdadm array?
[05:18] <[SUDO] Tux> khermans: that means i got dapper?
[05:18] <khermans> saleh, sudo aptitude install freeglut3-dev glutg3-dev libglut3-dev
[05:18] <khermans> [SUDO] Tux, yeah then do upgrade to edgy
[05:18] <[SUDO] Tux> khermans: ok
[05:19] <khermans> [SUDO] Tux, but you dont need to for Java
[05:19] <Jordan_U> Clin1: I will, no, that is not a good update, try again, "E: Some index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old ones used instead."
[05:19] <Clin1> E: Could not get lock /var/cache/apt/archives/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[05:19] <Clin1> E: Unable to lock the download directory
[05:19] <Clin1> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^Whats it mean
[05:19] <deadhobo> I seriously want to throw my laptop out the window
[05:19] <khermans> deadhobo, why?
[05:19] <deadhobo> I cannot understand this
[05:19] <[SUDO] Tux> khermans: haha i know
[05:19] <[SUDO] Tux> khermans: but i might as well get it lol
[05:19] <protocol1> does anyone know how I can upgrade my firefox's flash to 9?
[05:19] <jbroome> no
[05:19] <deadhobo> khermans: I cannot, for the life of me, get the official nvidia drivers to work
[05:19] <Clin1> Thanks Jordan
[05:19] <Jordan_U> Clin1: It means you have another package manager like synaptic still open.
[05:19] <khermans> deadhobo, on dapper/edgy?
[05:19] <khermans> deadhobo, they are in the repos
[05:19] <saleh> thx khermans, i try that  and come backone
[05:20] <Clin1> I ran that one off of synaptic
[05:20] <deadhobo> khermans: I have tried on both, I am currently using edgy
[05:20] <[SUDO] Tux> khermans: okay im doing it. brb
[05:20] <khermans> deadhobo, what is the issu?
[05:20] <Clin1> OMg i think i got it
[05:20] <deadhobo> khermans: When I switch to the official drivers by editing xorg.conf and restart gdm, all that comes up is a grey-white screen and a high pitched whine from the monitor
[05:20] <protocol1> does anyone know how I can upgrade my firefox's flash to 9?
[05:20] <Clin1> Thanks
[05:21] <cablesm102> protocol1
[05:21] <cablesm102> hold on
[05:21] <deadhobo> khermans: Here is a picture I took the last time I worked on it http://jhsforum.com/upload/files/IMAGE_00116.jpg
[05:21] <cablesm102> hit enter too soon :)
[05:21] <Jordan_U> !flash9 | protocol1
[05:21] <ubotu> protocol1: Flash player 9 beta has been released. You can download it here: http://seveas.imbrandon.com/dists/dapper-seveas/custom/ (replace dapper-seveas with edgy-seveas for edgy)  -  Official Adobe page at http://labs.adobe.com/downloads/flashplayer9.html
[05:21] <saleh> khermas: nothing changed
[05:21] <Clin1> YAYAYAYAYAYAY its downloading     :D
[05:21] <mjmtaiwan> Good evening to you all merry fellows!
[05:21] <Clin1> Go to flashes home page
[05:21] <khermans> deadhobo, what resolution?
[05:21] <cablesm102> I use the latest version of Beagle, which is supposed to support Thunderbird. However, it's only indexing my Thunderbird newsfeeds, not my email. Is there any way to fix this?
[05:21] <deadhobo> khermans: Can't get it to work on any, but the monitor is nativley 1680x1050
[05:21] <dk0r> Anyone want to teach me how to use apt-get? Im new to linux, just installed ubuntu lts.
[05:22] <khermans> deadhobo, you are using the drivers from the repository?
[05:22] <saleh>  with :freeglut3-dev glutg3-dev libglut3-dev nothing happened
[05:22] <khermans> dk0r, aptitude search foo
[05:22] <khermans> saleh, ?
[05:22] <khermans> saleh, you installed them?
[05:22] <deadhobo> khermans: Yep. I have tried installing through symaptic, apt-get, and even re-compiling the kernel
[05:22] <dk0r> khermans: whats that?
[05:22] <saleh> yes
[05:22] <Jordan_U> !apt | dk0r
[05:22] <khermans> saleh, are you still missing glut.h?
[05:22] <dk0r> oh apt-get
[05:22] <ubotu> dk0r: apt is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto  -  Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)
[05:22] <saleh> i did...
[05:22] <mjmtaiwan> I'd like to request help w/ hostname & network interfaces setup in prep for vmware install
[05:22] <dk0r> Jordan_U: thanks
[05:23] <Clin1> Can some one test my speed and connectivity, tell me how fast it loads. go to http://cmweb.zapto.org
[05:23] <oht> anyone have a link to an x64 version of flash9 plugin?
[05:23] <saleh> khermans, but nothing changed...
[05:24] <khermans> saleh, http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_contents.pl?word=glut.h&searchmode=searchfiles&case=insensitive&version=edgy&arch=i386
[05:24] <Jordan_U> oht: Adobe won't make one :(
[05:24] <jokker_fr> hi
[05:24] <khermans> saleh, freeglut3-dev resolves your problem
[05:24] <oht> Jordan_U: so...am i just screwed? or can i use the i386 version?
[05:24] <jokker_fr> can smobody try my ftp in active mode via firefox please ?
[05:25] <Clin1> il try it
[05:25] <Clin1> if you try mine
[05:25] <Jordan_U> oht: You can use the i386 version but I don't personally know how, sorry.
[05:25] <Clin1> ftp Jokker
[05:25] <jokker_fr> Clin1=>  sure
[05:25] <sysdoc> !xgl
[05:25] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL)  -  Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager  -  Help in #ubuntu-xgl  -  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[05:25] <deadhobo> khermans: Do you have any ideas? I'm pretty much stumped.
[05:25] <jokker_fr> ftp://<IP_ADDRESS>   user = amory  mdp = amory123
[05:25] <khermans> deadhobo, no
[05:25] <oht> ;)
[05:25] <Clin1> k one sec
[05:26] <deadhobo> khermans: Oh well. Thanks for listen to me whine anyway
[05:26] <Jordan_U> !chroot | oht
[05:26] <ubotu> oht: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebootstrapChroot use this to build 32 bit environments on a 64 bit box
[05:26] <xerophyte> say for examle i wanna change permission only for the directory in a directory and subdirectory how can i change them  chmod 755 -R will change the files to how can i only change the directories
[05:26] <Clin1> ok loging in
[05:26] <jokker_fr> you can see the folders ?
[05:26] <khermans> deadhobo, check your modelines
[05:26] <jokker_fr> on firefox ?
[05:26] <mjmtaiwan> yes
[05:26] <Clin1> its being slow
[05:26] <mjmtaiwan> folders there
[05:27] <mjmtaiwan> but slow load
[05:27] <Clin1> Im loaading thats why
[05:27] <mjmtaiwan> on safari too
[05:27] <deadhobo> khermans: I tried using other people's values with a similar laptop, and using a modeline generator (neither worked), but I don't know where to find the exact values. Do you think my manufacturerer could tell me?
[05:27] <Clin1> Mine is still beging translation
[05:27] <lucas9000> how do i find out what version of linux kernel i am running, without restarting?
[05:28] <khermans> deadhobo, no -- just use the default Xorg.conf if you still have it
[05:28] <Clin1> mine wont go through
[05:28] <jokker_fr> lucas9000 => uname -r
[05:28] <jokker_fr> lucas9000 => uname -a
[05:28] <lucas9000> ty jokker
[05:28] <deadhobo> khermans: Err... let me look
[05:29] <mjmtaiwan> can't change my hostname by changing /etc/hosts... any ideas?
[05:30] <Alethes> how about /etc/hostname?
[05:30] <Alethes> :P
[05:30] <mjmtaiwan> Alethes... did that... still showing original hostname even after restart.  strange
[05:31] <deadhobo> khermans: All my origional seems to have is "1680x1050_60"
[05:31] <tonyyarusso> mjmtaiwan: What's /etc/hostname read now?
[05:31] <Jordan_U> oht: By the way, when you get the 32bit chroot working you will need to install the 32 bit version of firefox also because, AFIK, you can't run 32 bit plugins in 64 bit firefox.
[05:31] <mjmtaiwan> I'll pastebin it.
[05:31] <deadhobo> khermans: But I am pretty sure that was generated by reconfiguring X.. forget the command tho
[05:31] <agent> xerophyte: use ls recursively with directories only (something like ls -R -d) and pipe that to xargs... so something like ls -R -d | xargs chmod 0777  NOTICE: read man pages for ls and xargs before attempting this! - in  fact, test it first on fake directories
[05:32] <khermans> deadhobo, get rid of it
[05:32] <Dralid> How can you tell if you are running the right nVidia drivers in edgy eft?
[05:32] <oht> Jordan_U: um, i'll just see what my life is like without flash for now ;)
[05:32] <deadhobo> khermans: Just that particular mode, or clear out everything?
[05:32] <mjmtaiwan> pastbin.ca/246406
[05:32] <khermans> deadhobo, that mode
[05:32] <mjmtaiwan> tonyyarusso: get that?
[05:32] <khermans> and set size to 800x600
[05:33] <tonyyarusso> mjmtaiwan: ya
[05:33] <xerophyte> agent, you mean find
[05:33] <agent> xerophyte: sure, find will work too :)
[05:33] <xerophyte> agent, ls -R -d
[05:33] <xerophyte> does not work
[05:33] <tonyyarusso> mjmtaiwan: That's your hosts file, not hostname
[05:34] <agent> xerophyte: i was just guessing... read the man pages (or use find)
[05:34] <babo> how do I find out which version of ubuntu I'm running ?
[05:34] <jbroome> !version
[05:34] <ubotu> To find out what version of Ubuntu you have, type 'lsb_release -a' in the Terminal.
[05:34] <mjmtaiwan> tonyyarusso: $hostname mmorrison-desktop (that is what I set it during desktop install)
[05:35] <oht> is there a version of flash that will work on x64 without too much trouble?
[05:35] <jbroome> if a 32 bit chroot is too much trouble, then no
[05:35] <tonyyarusso> mjmtaiwan: So you just need to change the /etc/hostname file still
[05:35] <oht> jbroome: booooo ;)
[05:36] <deadhobo> Sorry for my nub-ness, but what is the rename command/
[05:36] <deadhobo> just
[05:36] <deadhobo> *just "rename"?
[05:36] <khermans> deadhobo, renames files
[05:36] <sethk> deadhobo, to rename a single file, use mv
[05:37] <deadhobo> sethk: Thanks :)
[05:37] <clearzen> Can someone help me get a onboard via card working??
[05:37] <Dralid> How can I tell if I can use the 3D acceleration of my video card (for edgy)?
[05:38] <oht> Dralid: try out some GL screensavers and see if they run at decent fps
[05:38] <mjmtaiwan> tonyyarusso: I'm following this howtoforge prefect ubuntu setup and it says to modify the /etc/hosts.  Then use hostname to confirm.
[05:38] <oht> an easy way is also to drag the transluscent selection rectangle on the dektop and see if it lags
[05:39] <jtf0518> or run glxgears in terminal. If  you get a really high frames per second count it's most likely doing 3D accel.
[05:39] <tonyyarusso> mjmtaiwan: You have to change both files.  hostname specifies the name.  hosts specifies what computers your computer knows about, and it's usually a good idea for it to know itself.
[05:39] <quinnster> Does Ubuntu (6.10) offer a firewall?  Is there anything I should do to protect myself when connecting to the Internet?  Thanks!
[05:39] <jtf0518> temet nosce
[05:39] <tonyyarusso> !firewall | quinnster
[05:39] <ubotu> quinnster: Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).
[05:40] <quinnster> So can I do an /etc/rc.d/rc.firewall like in Slackware?
[05:40] <graeme> I've downloaded the dapper democracyTV packages from the site. But they tell me that I have unmet dependencies ...
[05:40] <graeme> Package mozilla-psm is not installed.
[05:40] <graeme> Package mozilla-dev is not installed.
[05:41] <tonyyarusso> quinnster: Do a what?
[05:41] <mjmtaiwan> tonyyarusso: Hmm... they must have missed that step.  So change /etc/hostname and restart. (I already installed the rest of the vmware files already... I don't need to redo the whole thing I guess?)
[05:41] <graeme> I can't find those packages ...
[05:41] <deadhobo> what is the best place for support on a large problem? ubuntu forums?
[05:41] <tonyyarusso> mjmtaiwan: I don't even think you have to restart, but maybe.
[05:41] <graeme> why would the dapper .debs still have unmet dependencies like that ?
[05:41] <tonyyarusso> deadhobo: Usually hit everything available.  Here, forums, and mailing list.
[05:41] <quinnster> tonyyarusso: I new to Ubuntu (using 6.10) but have used Slackware for a long time.  I know how to set up an iptables firewall with a script in /etc/rc.d/rc.firewall.  Is that how it done on Ubuntu as well?
[05:42] <graeme> Also, my dapper upgrade came with no xchat ...
[05:42] <deadhobo> tonyyarusso: Ah, I didn't know of the mailing list. Thanks for the tip
[05:42] <mjmtaiwan> tonyyarusso: Thanks... restarting... I'll let you know.
[05:42] <tonyyarusso> quinnster: I'm not aware of such a script, but have never tried.
[05:42] <Davo_Dinkum> Is there a way to stop network folders/shares showing on the desktop?
[05:42] <quinnster> OK.  Il do some more looking.  Thanks for your time.
[05:43] <xiambax> is there something like fsck for repairing ntfs disks?
[05:43] <jtf0518> xiambax, it's called chkdsk in Windows
[05:44] <mjmtaiwan> tonyyarusso: Well done... thank you!
[05:44] <graeme> Noone has any ideas on the mozilla-dev and mozilla-psm dependencies then ? Has anyone installed democracy TV ?
[05:44] <xiambax> jtf0518 what about in linux?
[05:44] <Davo_Dinkum> Is there a way to stop network folders/shares showing on the desktop?
[05:45] <jtf0518> i wouldn't try to repair an NTFS volume within Linux
[05:45] <Celeste> hi
[05:45] <Celeste> 2 questions:
[05:45] <effie_jayx> Celeste hi
[05:45] <jtf0518> Davo, try the Gnome configuration editor it's in the repos.
[05:45] <Celeste> 1) is Kubuntu not as stable as Ubuntu?  (I heard something like that)
[05:45] <xiambax> its all the same
[05:46] <effie_jayx> Celeste it is
[05:46] <xiambax> ones gnome, ones kde
[05:46] <lotusleaf> Celeste: that depends, have you ever tried a program called, "KBear"? :P
[05:46] <graeme> How typicallly Linux ... :-(
[05:46] <effie_jayx> graeme:  how so?
[05:46] <Celeste> effie_jayx: I placed a negative question. So I said "is ... not..."  you answered "it is"  ... So do you mean "it is NOT as stable as"  or  "it is as stable as" ?
[05:47] <Davo_Dinkum> jtf0518: where is gnome configuration editor?
[05:47] <Celeste> nope lotusleaf
[05:47] <effie_jayx> is it  as stable
[05:47] <lotusleaf> Celeste: good, good. =)
[05:47] <Celeste> lotusleaf, why
[05:47] <effie_jayx> Celeste:  it is as stable... I tryed it but.. I'm a gnome guy
[05:47] <effie_jayx> :)_
[05:48] <Celeste> ok
[05:48] <graeme> effie_jayx: well the dapper debs have unmet dependencies that aren't in the repos.  IMO
[05:48] <lotusleaf> Celeste: well, ubuntu and kubuntu are stable for me, but the program KBear would always crash on me and I'd curse the little bear icon, but I use other ftp clients now, thankfully. =) It's all godo
[05:48] <lotusleaf> good*
[05:48] <paragonc> when i install kopete - i can connect to aim - but it doesn't load my buddy list -
[05:48] <Celeste> graeme, talking about Kubuntu or Ubuntu?
[05:48] <jtf0518> Davo, go to Add/Remove programs and look in the System Tools section for Configuration Editor.
[05:48] <effie_jayx> graeme:  well I haven't had the need to isntall things that are not in the repos... but some stuff . like Eclipse SDK is better from outside thant the version in the repos
[05:49] <graeme> Celeste: Ubuntu
[05:49] <Celeste> good one more question:
[05:49] <Davo_Dinkum> jtf0518: Can I do it through apt-get?
[05:50] <jtf0518> I imagine you could but I don't know the package name.
[05:50] <jtf0518> But it's in Synaptic
[05:50] <graeme> I dunno. Sometime I miss windows. You just click and it installs. Linux is the exact opposite. I'm probably going to be chasing dependencies for about an hour ... And they are supposed to be .debs for a dapper system ...
[05:50] <effie_jayx> graeme:  that's the whole point of a distro...
[05:51] <graeme> effie__jayx: what ? to make things needlessly complicated ?
[05:51] <effie_jayx> graeme:  in windows. you have a lot of installers doing things their way .. an fiddleing around with the windows registry
[05:51] <Celeste> there is a LIVE-CD and an "alternate" CD.  I heard the "alternate" one would be better for some purposes.  I will install (K)ubuntu on my Toshiba laptop today.  So I fear that something could not work.  If I use the LIVE-CD I would have a WYSIWYG Preview to see wether or not it will run after installing.
[05:51] <Celeste> But:
[05:51] <Davo_Dinkum> jtf0518: I'll do it with Add/Remove then.
[05:51] <effie_jayx> graeme:  have you ever tried unsitalling NORTO ANTIVIRUS...
[05:51] <TGPO> windows = a computer with training wheels
[05:51] <paragonc> whats a good replacement if i can't get kopete working?
[05:51] <Davo_Dinkum> Gaim?
[05:52] <TGPO> paragonc, gaim
[05:52] <effie_jayx> graeme:  your machine becomes turtle slow after a couple of installs
[05:52] <Celeste> does the LIVE-CD produce a running Ubuntu which is AS stable as the Installation which came by an alternate-installation??
[05:52] <paragonc> needs to be similar to trillian or kopete - i use yahoo - aim - and icq -
[05:52] <tonyyarusso> Celeste: The end result is the same if you're doing a default install.
[05:52] <TGPO> paragonc, gaim
[05:52] <Celeste> tonyyarusso: Thank you!
[05:53] <effie_jayx> CEleste it runs faster though
[05:53] <Jordan_U> graeme: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DemocracyPlayer ( the wiki is your friend ) :)
[05:53] <Celeste> effie_jayx, the installation itself or the finished installed system?
[05:53] <Davo_Dinkum> jtf0518: It's already installed. What now?
[05:53] <effie_jayx> graeme:  i'll gie yo a link
[05:53] <effie_jayx> graeme:  installed system
[05:53] <graeme> effie_jayx: Ok I'll check out the wiki thanks ...
[05:54] <TGPO> Celeste, the install from liveCD is much faster, never noticed one way or the other after install
[05:54] <jtf0518> Davo, in the tree go to /apps/nautilus/desktop and uncheck the volumes visible.
[05:54] <effie_jayx> graeme: there is a reason for the repos.. let me send a link.....
[05:54] <capiCrimm> can anyone tell me how to get a font specifier string for xft fonts? Like the ones xfontsel gives.
[05:54] <mzli> !lanchpad
[05:54] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about lanchpad - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:55] <DanSchnell> Question: Why doesn't the alternate installer partition my harddrive?  I've gotten to the partitioner and tried to get it to work, but It just keeps bringing me back to the main partition memu
[05:55] <Jordan_U> Celeste: The system installed by the liveCD is all but identicle to the one installed by the alternateCD, the alternateCD just gives more other options.
[05:55] <Celeste> ok
[05:55] <Celeste> last question:
[05:56] <effie_jayx> graeme: packaging is key http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/66    <----- Mr Shuttleworth
[05:56] <ixian_> i need some help setting up a fat32 partition. i want to be able to copy/save files to this partition without using sudo on the command line. ive tried about 5 different lines in my fstab and nothing seems to work.
[05:56] <effie_jayx> check the ubuntuguide.org
[05:56] <Celeste> Firefox  and Openoffice,  xchat and gaim ... (and many other programs) start at least 3 seconds faster on Windows XP as on Linux Ubuntu (on the SAME PC!)  -> why?  -> solution?
[05:56] <effie_jayx> you can auto mount it...
[05:57] <effie_jayx> Celeste give your widnows xp 6 more months and test again
[05:57] <TGPO> Celeste, thats a question with a lot of answers
[05:57] <Celeste> TGPO: Can't it just be fixed?
[05:57] <RabidDog> !tell RabidDog about gallery2
[05:57] <Celeste> effie_jayx, its 18 month old
[05:57] <Davo_Dinkum> jtf0518: Thanks.
[05:58] <TGPO> Celeste, sure, complie all your own software and you'll see those apps fly
[05:58] <effie_jayx> Celeste:  sorry just being funny
[05:58] <RabidDog> for bloodysakes why don't they tell us when they change configuration file structure when upgraindg
[05:58] <RabidDog> sum ppl are idiots
[05:58] <Celeste> TGPO: compiling from source?
[05:58] <TGPO> Celeste, right
[05:58] <RabidDog> sighs
[05:58] <RabidDog> Now how the heck do I get my gallery to work now
[05:59] <Jordan_U> Celeste: Try xubuntu, it is lighter weight.
[05:59] <RabidDog> google is hopeless at the moment
[05:59] <jutty> hey i havean 80 gig hard drive with windows and ubuntu on it i wanna resize my wndows partition to give linux more space how should i do that?
[05:59] <TGPO> Celeste, also loosing all the bloat (dont shoot me guys) that KDE/Gnome load in helps too
[05:59] <Celeste> TGPO, but the whole Ubuntu Distro is built by Packages, isn't it?  Then I should use a Sources-Based distro,  isn't it?
[05:59] <tonyyarusso> Celeste: Most likely because on Windows you have various libaries built into each application, meaning they can load faster, but end up duplicating things inefficiently and cluttering up your disk.  Linux has shared libraries, so sourcing them can take some time, but it's more intelligent.  You can speed up that process using the 'prelink' package, and others.
[05:59] <RabidDog> src based distro ='s super headache
[05:59] <TGPO> Celeste, all linux distros can be done from source, but a sourced based distro isnt for someone who has less than a month to get a system up and running
[06:00] <Celeste> RabidDog: is this good?
[06:00] <Davo_Dinkum> Bye.
[06:00] <RabidDog> If u want a headache
[06:00] <Celeste> what is headache?
[06:00] <Celeste> ah, headache!!
[06:00] <RabidDog> lets say migraine?
[06:00] <Celeste> got it
[06:00] <Celeste> sorry
[06:00] <RabidDog> lmao
[06:00] <RabidDog> I've played with all
[06:00] <RabidDog> and settled on ubuntu
[06:01] <effie_jayx> prelink can take a while though
[06:01] <TGPO> Gentoo = Linux for the OCD
[06:01] <Celeste> OCD?
[06:01] <effie_jayx> oCD?
[06:01] <RabidDog> now if I could only figured what the hell they did with gallery so I cna get it working again
[06:01] <TGPO> Obsessive Compulsive Disorder
[06:01] <Celeste> I thought about giving slackware or freebsd a try
[06:01] <RabidDog> obsessive compulsive disorder
[06:01] <Jordan_U> Celeste: Obsessive Compulsive Disorder
[06:01] <effie_jayx> ohhh cmon
[06:01] <RabidDog> lol
[06:01] <effie_jayx> lol
[06:01] <jutty> hey i havean 80 gig hard drive with windows and ubuntu on it i wanna resize my wndows partition to give linux more space how should i do that?
[06:01] <graeme> guys, why does democracy TV requre mozilla-dev and mozilla-psm ? And where can I find these two packages ?
[06:01] <Celeste> hehe
[06:01] <RabidDog> sighs
[06:01] <graeme> I've tried linking them to libnss3 ... but no luck ...
[06:02] <compudaze> slackware? i haven't used that in 10 years
[06:02] <RabidDog> Anyone know what the heck the ubuntu team did gallery?
[06:02] <RabidDog> with this upgrade
[06:02] <Jordan_U> graeme: The wiki instructions don't work?
[06:02] <graeme> why isn't mozilla-dev in the repos ?
[06:02] <effie_jayx> compudaze:  well people still use it
[06:02] <RabidDog> do uhave universe enabled
[06:02] <effie_jayx> compudaze:  :)
[06:02] <Jordan_U> graeme: Because it is?
[06:02] <Jordan_U> !info mozilla-dev
[06:02] <ubotu> mozilla-dev: The Mozilla Internet application suite - development files. In component universe, is optional. Version 2:1.7.13-0.2ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 3601 kB, installed size 29936 kB
[06:03] <RabidDog> !info gallery
[06:03] <ubotu> gallery: a web-based photo album written in php. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.5.3-2 (edgy), package size 7734 kB, installed size 27668 kB
[06:03] <Celeste> graeme, I also have it in the repos
[06:03] <Celeste> p   mozilla-dev                                                                      - The Mozilla Internet application suite - development files
[06:03] <RabidDog> err I hate devlopers, they never explain themselves
[06:03] <Celeste> Hey guys,  I wanted to thank you all who helped me by answering my questions
[06:03] <RabidDog> must be that OCD
[06:03] <Celeste> So Thank you very much!
[06:03] <TGPO> RabidDog, yup
[06:04] <RabidDog> drives nuts, I have no idea how  to get gallery working now that it upgraded to gallery 2 and moved the gallery dir somewhere
[06:04] <compudaze> jutty: gparted should do it
[06:04] <effie_jayx> graeme: just a question... whay are you chasing dependencies for an hour?
[06:04] <graeme> Celeste: It's not in my repos on dapper ? ... are you on edgy ?
[06:04] <graeme> which repos do you have enabled ?
[06:04] <RabidDog> heres the word gparted and runs screaming in agony
[06:04] <Celeste> graeme, dapper
[06:05] <Jordan_U> !repositories | graeme
[06:05] <ubotu> graeme: The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[06:05] <Celeste> graeme, I post my sources.list for you
[06:05] <jtf0518> graeme, do you have multiverse and universe enabled in your repositories? I'm finding both those libs just fine on my box.
[06:05] <graeme> effie_jayx: ??? because I'm trying to install some software ...
[06:05] <Celeste> http://<IP_ADDRESS>/sources.list
[06:05] <Celeste> @ graeme
[06:05] <ixian_> what is the command to give all users read/write access to a folder and all subfolders and files
[06:06] <Jordan_U> graeme: It is in universe
[06:06] <jtf0518> both mozilla-dev and mozilla-psm are there
[06:06] <effie_jayx> graeme:  lie?
[06:06] <effie_jayx> graeme:  like waht?
[06:06] <Celeste> ixian_:  chmod -R 777 /path/to/dir/
[06:06] <compudaze> ixian_: chmod -R a+w folder
[06:06] <Celeste> ixian_, but be careful, I warn you
[06:07] <Rookie-> Celeste, 777 is read and write and execute ...
[06:07] <Jordan_U> graeme: Before chasing down dependencies always check the other repositories, almost everything is there.
[06:07] <compudaze> ixian_: actualy, chmod -R a+rw folder
[06:07] <bruenig> graeme, copy and paste the following, sudo sed '/s/# deb/deb/g' -i.old /etc/apt/sources.list && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install mozilla-dev mozilla-psm
[06:07] <ixian_> its for my music folder on a fat32 drive, for some reason it has a little lock symbol on the folder icon and i cant copy files to this partition
[06:07] <TGPO> DONT DO THAT!!!
[06:07] <Celeste> ixian_, Rookie- just corrected me !  chmod -R a+w folder   is the right way to do it - be careful anyway
[06:07] <Celeste> TGPO!
[06:07] <ixian_> so i assume its a problem with the permissions..
[06:07] <Celeste> ;)
[06:08] <jutty> gparted only the gave me the option to format to fter i umounted the ntfs partition
[06:08] <compudaze> jutty: u may need ntfstools installed
[06:08] <compudaze> jutty: and u can't resize it when mounted
[06:09] <TGPO> Celeste I actually did that once prior to a reinstall just to see what would happen :)
[06:09] <jutty> i unmounted
[06:09] <jutty> ingparted
[06:09] <RabidDog> looking for a Gallery expert
[06:09] <Jordan_U> TGPO: I remember, you were on #ubuntu-offtopic at the time :)
[06:09] <Rookie-> become an expert by learning ....
[06:10] <RabidDog> I can't learn if there is nothing to learn from
[06:10] <Celeste> TGPO, please tell me the result!
[06:10] <Celeste> TGPO, i wanted to try it several times
[06:10] <compudaze> jutty: do you have ntfsprogs installed?
[06:10] <RabidDog> No documentation on what they did
[06:10] <graeme> how do I update my sources.list then, after editing it ?
[06:10] <bruenig> graeme, just copy and paste that entire thing,
[06:10] <jutty> doing that right now
[06:10] <Jordan_U> graeme: sudo apt-get update , or click update in synaptic
[06:10] <[SUDO] Tux> YAY i'm getting the new version of ubuntu right now!
[06:10] <compudaze> [SUDO] Tux: YAY!
[06:10] <TGPO> Celeste it does go boom nicely, there are a few things it wont delete, but it wont save your system
[06:10] <RabidDog> Be very scared Tux
[06:11] <[SUDO] Tux> why?
[06:11] <jtf0518> haha
[06:11] <Rookie-> RabidDog, http://codex.gallery2.org/index.php/Main_Page
[06:11] <RabidDog> rookie doesn't tell what Ubuntu did
[06:11] <jtf0518> Some people are calling Edgy the roach motel of distros.
[06:11] <RabidDog> edgy = expermiental intros
[06:11] <bruenig> edgy = best distro ever
[06:12] <compudaze> edgy isn't a distro
[06:12] <Jordan_U> [SUDO] Tux: They named it "Edgy" for a reason ?
[06:12] <Jordan_U> [SUDO] Tux: They named it "Edgy" for a reason :)
[06:12] <jtf0518> not judging by the number of problem posts, bruenig
[06:12] <RabidDog> yes they did jordan
[06:12] <bruenig> edgy = best version of the best distro ever
[06:12] <[SUDO] Tux> Jordan_U really?
[06:12] <compudaze> edgy is the codename for ubuntu 6.10
[06:12] <[SUDO] Tux> Jordan_U is it bad?
[06:12] <Rookie-> difficult to discuss taste ....
[06:12] <bruenig> jtf0518, if people don't have problems, they don't post. You get an unrepresentative subject group.
[06:12] <Jordan_U> [SUDO] Tux: No, it's awesome :)
[06:13] <[SUDO] Tux> Jordan_U: do you use GIMP?
[06:13] <BHSPitLappy> hi all.
[06:13] <jtf0518> that's true, bruenig but there have been lots and lots and lots of issues.
[06:13] <Jordan_U> [SUDO] Tux: Not often, but yes.
[06:13] <TGPO> I find edgy better overall than Debian Etch
[06:13] <[SUDO] Tux> Jordan_U: is anything added with edgy?
[06:13] <compudaze> [sudo] tux: edgy runs very well for me, no problems/stability issue's yet (using it on my desktop and server computers)
[06:13] <keeper> When I start firefox, it loads and just quits. Same thing for gnome-terminal. Suggestions?
[06:13] <[SUDO] Tux> compudaze: glad to hear it
[06:13] <Jordan_U> [SUDO] Tux: I wouldn't notice.
[06:13] <Celeste> thank you TGPO