[00:03] <greg-g> chrisccoulson: done
[00:03] <chrisccoulson> thank you!
[00:03] <greg-g> you are welcome, thank you for helping
[00:13] <chrisccoulson> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/cheese/+bug/249190 is reporting a cheese dependency problem
[00:14] <chrisccoulson> i can confirm - it is dependant on a package in hardy-proposed
[00:14] <chrisccoulson> not quite sure whether to just suggest he enables hardy-proposed or not though
[00:19] <greg-g> no, don't suggest that.  it is an issue, and should probably be brought to the attention of someone in #ubuntu-motu
[00:19] <greg-g> or -devel
[00:22] <chrisccoulson> i think he might just need to wait for the mirrors to sync
[00:22] <greg-g> chrisccoulson: that could be it too
[00:22] <chrisccoulson> according to this, the dependencies went in to hardy-updates 8 hours ago: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/evolution-data-server
[00:31] <hggdh> chrisccoulson, very good comment on this bug. Thank you for your help
[00:31] <crimsun> chrisccoulson: yes, that's correct.  They are available in hardy-updates now.
[00:32] <chrisccoulson> no probs! hopefully it's sorted for him tomorrow. i can't see the updated packages yet, and i'm using the main server
[00:32] <chrisccoulson> i'm also running -proposed though, so i'm not actually expecting any new updates
[00:32] <crimsun> libebook1.2-9 | 2.22.3-0ubuntu1 | hardy-updates | amd64, i386
[00:32] <crimsun> libedataserver1.2-9 | 2.22.3-0ubuntu1 | hardy-updates | amd64, i386
[02:43] <takdir> i want to help fix some bugs but how to start?
[02:45] <Grantbow> takdir: welcome :-)  type "/topic" and check those URLs out first.
[02:46] <takdir> ok thanks Grantbow
[03:23] <takdir> i'm work in https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/php5/+bug/152410, but i just answer a question.
[03:42] <takdir> i'm in https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.22/+bug/148223 i want to change status as Fix bacause the problem is solved
[03:48] <hggdh> takdir, please set the bug as a duplicate of bug 115616 -- do you know how to do it?
[03:51] <takdir> just click mark as duplicate ?
[03:51] <hggdh> yes
[03:52] <hggdh> they are related
[03:54] <takdir> ok, done
[03:55] <hggdh> takdir, then this is all - the bug is automatically closed
[03:56] <takdir> yup, i see. how to hug bug ?
[03:58]  * Grantbow hugs takdir
[03:59] <takdir> :D
[03:59] <hggdh> takdir, type "/me hugs <whoever>"
[03:59]  * hggdh hugs takdir
[04:17] <takdir> what should i do with #152410 ?. i 've been add comment and subcribe to that bug. the bug is marked expiration in 59 days
[04:27]  * takdir hugs hggdh
[04:29] <hggdh> bug 152410
[04:30] <hggdh> per Soren, installing PHP should restart Apache. If you can reproduce it, then it is a confirm
[04:32] <hggdh> (this means installing PHP, and seeing Apache *not* restart automagically)
[04:32] <techno_freak> i haven't seen installing PHP restarts Apache
[04:34] <techno_freak> no, it doesn't
[04:36] <hggdh> then I guess we can confirm -- just make make sure there are no errors reported for Apache during the install
[04:38]  * takdir agree with techno_freak, I always manually restart apache after installed php
[04:39] <techno_freak> it never did, confirmed in Feisty, Gutsy and Hardy
[04:39] <hggdh> and, please, state the Ubuntu version and PHP/Apache versions (darn, techno_freak was faster than me! ;-)
[04:39] <techno_freak> :)
[04:40] <hggdh> indeed, we need the versions in the bug
[04:40] <techno_freak> hggdh, commenting there...
[04:40] <hggdh> thank you, both takdir and techno_freak
[04:41] <techno_freak> yw :)
[04:41] <takdir> :D
[04:47] <hggdh> huh, techno_freak, what is the PHP version? (the bug is on PHP, correctly)
[04:47] <techno_freak> oh, will add that too
[04:47] <hggdh> thanks ;-)
[04:48] <hggdh> you might also change the title to something like "Installing PHP does not restart Apache"
[04:49] <hggdh> :-)
[04:49]  * hggdh feels weird, telling people what should/could be done
[04:49]  * hggdh blushes, also
[04:51] <techno_freak> hehe
[04:54] <techno_freak> done!
[04:54] <hggdh> I marked it as triaged. Thank you
[04:55] <techno_freak> :)
[05:22] <takdir> hggdh: now i'm in bug #156077. i 've leave a comment about installing driver with download url driver
[05:23] <takdir> same topics in http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=23387
[05:37] <mrooney> does anyone understand why bug 249316 is Fix Released?
[05:37] <mrooney> it almost looks like it was intended to imply that it is fixed upstream but needs fixed in ubuntu. unless it means Intrepid has the fix
[06:11]  * takdir hugs hggdh
[06:11] <takdir> i 've been changed status bug 156077 to invaled bacause no respon from reporter, it's true ?
[07:16] <Grantbow> What is "Malone" refered to in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/CommonTasks
[07:17] <Grantbow> is that an old code name for launchpad?
[07:50] <bdmurray> Grantbow: yes it is
[08:04] <Grantbow> bdmurray: ok, thanks :-)  I edited the wiki on two pages very carefully to reflect the change. - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/CommonTasks and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/Importance
[09:01] <bdmurray> Grantbow: great, thanks for doing that!
[10:37] <qense> hello!
[10:37] <qense> I'm back from holliday for two days!
[10:37] <qense> 450 unread mails :P
[12:07] <pwnguin> so how well do wubi and ubuntu get along?
[12:17] <pwnguin> would anyone with super powers like to take a look at https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/wubi/+bug/236307/comments/6
[12:28] <Awsoonn> g1morning all!
[12:29] <Awsoonn> guess what day it is~!
[12:29] <Pici> Thursday?
[12:29] <Pici> I could never get the hang of Thursdays.
[12:31] <Awsoonn> Hugday!
[12:31] <Awsoonn> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBugDay/20080717
[12:31] <nhandler> Quick question. When we use the stock response asking someone to see if the bug still exists in the latest Ubuntu release, we want them to test it on Intrepid. Since intrepid is the current dev release, right?
[12:34] <Awsoonn> well, if the reporter has the ability to test that, it is ideal to report ageist the dev release
[12:35] <nhandler> Yes, but is there a point in requesting they test it with the hardy version? This will not show us if the bug still exists in the latest version of the package/ubuntu
[12:37] <Awsoonn> I usually ask for testing the dev release only if I have some sort of hunch it might be fixed there, otherwise I stick to the released version
[12:39] <nhandler> Might I ask what having them test the released version will accomplish? If the bug still exists there, it means nothing. It still could have been fixed in the dev version. The only thing testing on the stable release can show you is if it was fixed there. And even if it was fixed there, it doesn't mean it is fixed in the dev release
[12:41] <Awsoonn> It is the same as any other bug report that comes in ageist Hardy then
[12:42] <Awsoonn> It is really up to the triager, ask a few people and see what the consensus is.
[12:43] <Awsoonn> look at the changelog from hardy to Intrepid for a given package, if there is nothing there that might be a fix, save some work for the reporter. That in only my 2 cents
[13:35] <ligemeget> I wonder if bug 151427 was handled correctly
[13:37] <mrooney> ligemeget: that does seem weird to invalidate a bug when asking a question to a responsive reporter, should be incomplete I think
[13:38] <ligemeget> I'll change it back, then
[13:38] <mrooney> Oh, but it ISN'T a responsive reporter, that was a while ago
[13:38] <mrooney> ligemeget: for older bugs like that, it is standard to Invalidate them and let the reporter re-open if it still applies
[13:38] <ligemeget> Okay then, it'll just remain closed, then
[13:39] <Hobbsee> i would leave that one to mvo, as he's replied to it twice already (and may well be legitimate)
[13:39] <mrooney> yeah, as long as you give instructions on how to re-open
[13:39] <Hobbsee> on the other hand, it looks like now bzip2 has died, or something.
[13:42] <ligemeget> regarding bug 147853 - I've asked if it's still a problem, and have let it remain incomplete
[13:42] <ligemeget> Is that correct? Can I mark it as hugged now?
[13:57] <ligemeget> Two hugs. I guess that counts for something :)
[14:08] <mrooney> ligemeget: :)
[14:41] <bdmurray> thekorn: I believe I fixed your lp_gm_scripts bug this morning
[14:42] <thekorn> bdmurray, super, thanks
[14:42] <bdmurray> thekorn: there are still a couple of issues w/ it re assignee and reporter not being appended
[14:43] <thekorn> did you commit your changes, so I can test it?
[14:43] <bdmurray> yes, I belive so
[14:46] <thekorn> bdmurray, good work!
[14:46] <thekorn> thanks for fixing it
[14:47] <bdmurray> no problem
[14:47] <bdmurray> workflow reports was broken too but is fixed now
[14:50] <thekorn> I was suprised that this gm scripts integrates so well in the new UI of lp
[15:39] <bddebian> Boo
[15:40] <yuriy> whoa launchpad redesign
[15:45] <MitchM> on my ubuntu box i have my umask set to 027 in /etc/profile... i do a sudo su and it's set back to 022
[15:45] <MitchM> which is 'unsecure'
[15:46] <MitchM> bug? any thoughts? (if i do a 'sudo su -' it loads the proper umask)
[15:50] <yuriy> MitchM: different ways of using sudo give you different results, see http://ubuntu-tutorials.com/2008/05/09/a-root-shell-on-ubuntu-the-right-way/
[16:44] <stpere> hi! I have a bug to report, but don't know what to include as details
[16:44] <stpere> someone can help me?
[16:45] <stpere> basically, the update-manager tray icon tells me (if I hold the mouse over) that there is 1 update, and when I click to open the actual update-manager, it tells me there is 57
[16:46] <stpere> but I have no idea how to reproduce (other than it happens 100% of the time here)
[16:46] <stpere> is it a matter to fill a bug?
[16:47] <bdmurray> are they the same kinds of updates?  security or ...?
[16:48] <mvo> stpere: could you please run /usr/lib/update-notifier/apt-check -p
[16:48] <mvo> stpere: and put the output to paste.ubuntu.com ?
[16:48] <mvo> stpere: what version of ubuntu are you using?
[16:48] <Hobbsee> ah yes, i should report that recommends bug.
[16:48] <stpere> hardy
[16:49] <Hobbsee> then i can use the update manager again
[16:49] <mvo> stpere: and the output of "cat /etc/apt/preferences" too please
[16:49] <mvo> Hobbsee: what recommends bug?
[16:49] <Hobbsee> mvo: if you hold a package back with dpkg --set-selections, it'll still try to install the recommends regardless.
[16:50] <stpere> http://paste.ubuntu.com/28050/
[16:50] <stpere> I have no file /etc/apt/preferences?!
[16:50] <mvo> stpere: and /usr/lib/update-notifier/apt-check (without the -p this time please)?
[16:51] <stpere> http://paste.ubuntu.com/28051/
[16:52] <stpere> bdmurray: some security (8) some recommended and some suggested
[16:53] <stpere> I should update more often but I'm on dialup :)
[16:53] <bdmurray> stpere: okay, I'll let mvo help you out since he knows update-manager quite well
[16:54] <stpere> thx
[16:55] <stpere> for what it's worth, I rebooted a couple of times since I first noticed it, "refreshed" the updates in update manager too
[16:56] <mvo> stpere: that is a interessting bug you see here, could you please test a slightly modified version?
[16:56] <stpere> sure
[16:56] <mvo> http://people.ubuntu.com/~mvo/tmp/apt-check.test
[16:56] <mvo> should print out quite some stuff
[16:57] <stpere> same output with out the -p
[16:58] <stpere> want me to paste anyway?
[16:59] <stpere> do you want the content of /var/lib/synaptic/preferences ?
[16:59] <stpere> brb
[17:01] <mvo> stpere: please let me know what that scripts outputs, the error you see is definitely a odd one
[17:02] <mvo> stpere: oh, nothing additionally? then maybe the /v/l/s/preferences file too, does that lock some of the packages you see?
[17:13] <stpere> back
[17:13] <stpere> sorry mvo to let you wait
[17:13] <stpere> http://paste.ubuntu.com/28059/
[17:16] <mvo> stpere: thanks, strange. have you locked a lot of stuff with synaptic ? could you please add /var/lib/synaptic/preferences to the pastebin
[17:17] <stpere> well, that's strange, that file isn't there anymore?!
[17:18] <stpere> but I'm 100% positive it was there before I went away
[17:18] <mvo> oh?
[17:18] <mvo> how stange
[17:18] <stpere> maybe locatedb still see it
[17:19] <stpere> /var/lib/synaptic is now empty
[17:19] <DarkAudit> are these two actually bugs, or me not knowing what the (bleep) I'm doing: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/apt-build
[17:20] <stpere> mvo: I don't remember locking anything with synaptic.. I added the winehq rep tho
[17:21] <stpere> you want to see my sources?
[17:21] <mvo> stpere: no, that should be fine, give me a sec and I update the test script again
[17:21] <stpere> thx
[17:22] <mvo> stpere: could you please try http://people.ubuntu.com/~mvo/tmp/apt-check.test2 ?
[17:23] <mvo> stpere: just download it and it it via "python apt-check.test2"
[17:26] <stpere> http://paste.ubuntu.com/28063/
[17:27] <stpere> weird
[17:27] <stpere> it looks like there is an "invisible" package or something  :)
[17:27] <stpere> maybe a virus :o
[17:28] <stpere> ok, enough silly talk :)
[17:32] <stpere> coffee's ready, back in a minute (btw, are you paid by canonical or are you voluntary?)
[17:34] <stpere> re
[17:41] <greg-g> stpere: many of us are volunteers, but mvo is is a paid employee
[17:45] <bdmurray> greg-g: hey there
[17:46] <greg-g> hiya
[17:54] <greg-g> bdmurray: ong the bug/status wiki page, the first descriptor for Confirmed says something which I would deem as triaged. Thoughts? (if you have a moment)
[17:54] <greg-g> s/ong/On/
[18:04] <bdmurray> greg-g: re Confirmed I'm not sure why I wrote that and think it should be changed / removed too
[18:04] <greg-g> bdmurray: /me nods
[18:05] <bdmurray> I'll fix it later tonight then
[18:06] <greg-g> bdmurray: just need to remove that line right?
[18:07] <bdmurray> greg-g: well or something like another user has experienced the bug report
[18:08] <bdmurray> whether it be a duplicate or a comment from additional user with the problem
[18:10] <bdmurray> greg-g: so if you've a brilliant way to word that feel free
[18:10] <bdmurray> greg-g: otherwise I'll check it out tonight
[18:12] <greg-g> bdmurray: ok, I'll think on it, I have a meeting soon anyways.
[18:14] <DarkAudit> Are these two actually bugs, or me not knowing what I'm doing: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/apt-build
[18:28] <mouz> DarkAudit: to me those appear bugs, but I'm far from authorative on this point. Maybe ask in #ubuntu-motu?
[18:29] <DarkAudit> mouz: I'll try there. been trying to figure this out for 2 days now
[18:31] <mouz> DarkAudit: you can also try #ubuntu-devel
[18:31] <DarkAudit> mouz: will do :)
[18:32] <mouz> DarkAudit: but not both simultaneously :)
[18:32] <mouz> may are in both you see
[18:32] <DarkAudit> mouz: gah :)
[18:33] <stpere> num, there was a fly in my tea
[18:33] <DarkAudit> been trying regular #ubuntu and #kubuntu for 2 days now... i thought it was me missing a simple config option, but the stone silence suggested something different
[18:34] <mouz> understandable: apt-build is a devel tool
[18:36] <DarkAudit> mouz: the gathering source and building works fine as far as I can see. It's the install part where it behaves strangely (at least from my view)
[18:39] <mouz> DarkAudit: it would be interesting to see what happens if your build has a higher version. The .list thing I think is a bug, as your renaming it made apt see it.
[18:41] <DarkAudit> mouz: the built package and the remote package have identical version numbers
[18:43] <DarkAudit> which makes me think that I goofed somewhere in setting precedence for the local repository, but no one has confirmed or denied my suspicion.
[18:46] <mouz> DarkAudit: if there is no answers in the next hour I will try to see if I can confirm
[18:47] <DarkAudit> mouz: tyvm :)
[20:14] <DarkAudit> since this bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/apt-build/+bug/248787 actually occurs during the install part of the process, would actually be an apt bug instead?
[20:24] <mouz> DarkAudit: got any answers in other channels?
[20:50] <mouz> DarkAudit: I set it to incomplete. The other bug I confirmed.
[21:12] <DarkAudit> mouz: not much, other than the bugs look legit to some of them, too
[21:14] <DarkAudit> mouz: since the problem I have with apt-build is in the install phase, i'm inclined to think that it's more of an apt bug, if I'm correct in thinking that apt-build hands the procedure over to apt to accomplish that part of the process.
[21:19] <mouz> DarkAudit: it is possible. However see my comment to bug 248787. I had a successfull apt-build install from the local archive.
[21:22] <DarkAudit> mouz: adding deb file:/var/cache/apt-build/repository apt-build main to top of sources.list, but leaving sources.list.save alone
[21:30] <DarkAudit> mouz: well, now! After editing sources.list and /etc/apt/preferences, synaptic is seeing packages I built with apt-build in the Local/main origin. Up until then it did not :)
[21:31] <DarkAudit> until I made the suggested changes, the only packages listed were ones i'd installed from other downloads (like a couple of taglib packages that weren't in Hardy)
[21:34] <DarkAudit> mouz: woot! confirmed your fix. sudo apt-build --reinstall --force-yes install pan installed the home-built version, as shown in http://paste.ubuntu.com/28115/
[21:43] <mouz> \o/
[23:16] <mrooney> does anyone here use a 16 bit/pixel graphics card, to confirm bug 249436?
[23:22] <ppp> My bug 243813 has been given a priority but not confirmed, can someone please confirm
[23:22] <charlie-tca> A little help please. I have an old bug #122223 against evince-gtk version .5; Evince is now in version 2.2
[23:23] <charlie-tca> The original reporter states he is no longer affected. Can this be marked fix released?
[23:26] <charlie-tca> ppp: I'll check your bug out.
[23:28] <ppp> Thanks Charlie
[23:38] <charlie-tca> ppp: I confirmed Bug #243813. good luck
[23:38] <ppp> Thanks Charlie
[23:39] <charlie-tca> You are welcome. Glad to help
[23:39] <ppp> Folks I reported a serious bug, 243803 I am no longer able to test this as my workstation HDD's have gone from four to one. For new users, this bug is a deal breaker because it prevents Ubuntu from loading after install
[23:39] <ppp> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/grub-installer/+bug/243803
[23:40] <ppp> The bug occurs on Hardy and Intrepid
[23:41] <ppp> I have reported the workaround in the bug, I suspect the bug to be a Debian problem
[23:41] <charlie-tca> Can anyone triage bug #243813 for me? I have changed it to confirmed. There is enough information for it to be worked.
[23:47] <hggdh> charlie-tca, done. Thank you.
[23:48] <charlie-tca> thank you, hggdh
[23:53] <hggdh> ppp, ping
[23:54] <ppp> Im here
[23:54] <hggdh> I cannot expand your install.tar.lzma -- decoder error
[23:54] <ppp> Ill check on my end
[23:54] <hggdh> thank you


[00:19] <Pici> thomi: looking for a freenode staffer now.  If I disappear, my power went out.
[00:26] <thomi> heh, ok
[00:30] <ldunn> oops, should that be thomir? just noticed the lp
[00:30] <thomi> I'm thomir on launchpad, thomi on irc
[00:31] <thomi> 'thomi' on launchpad is someone else :(
[00:31] <Pici> we usually do it by the account, so this is fine :)
[00:32] <ldunn> okie doke o/
[00:32] <Pici> thanks ldunn
[00:32] <thomi> thanks
[00:32] <ldunn> no worries
[05:40] <MooDoo> hello all


[00:01] <DarkPsydeLord> not supported
[00:01] <DarkPsydeLord> 375 is the one tested on the latest ubuntu build
[00:02] <Guest22639> thanks, I pick it from software & updates - additional drivers
[00:02] <DarkPsydeLord> really?
[00:03] <DarkPsydeLord> after adding a repository?
[00:04] <Guest22639> repository was part of 17.04 install
[00:04] <DarkPsydeLord> Guest22639, that actually sound like refresh rate or monitor not catching with higher fps
[00:06] <Guest22639> refresh rate is 60 hz
[00:07] <DarkPsydeLord> uhm i dont have any additional nvidia driver yet i wonder if i have older card or just got dumped by nvidia
[00:09] <Guest22639> ppa.lauchpad.net/graphics-driver/ppa/ubuntu zesty main came with the basic install
[00:10] <Guest22639> graphic card is GTX1070
[00:14] <DarkPsydeLord> hm not in mine :( so im useless at this point
[00:14] <Guest22639> changed to 375 build, still monitor is wavy when scolling
[00:15] <DarkPsydeLord> did you log out and in after that?
[00:18] <Guest22639> no, I still have the hexchat running.
[00:19] <DarkPsydeLord> just finish the session using the log out function and come back in
[00:24] <thomas_> restarted, still have wavyness on monitor when scrolling text in web browser (firefox)
[00:25] <DarkPsydeLord> uhm wonder if it is nvidia fault or something else
[00:25] <DarkPsydeLord> does this happen in any other app?
[00:27] <thomas_> I will check
[00:28] <thomas_> same issue with pdf
[00:29] <thomas_> where can I check if NEC MultiSync LCD 2490WUXi is supported
[00:30] <DarkPsydeLord> you sure your monitor can handle that refresh rate? cause mine cant catch up with it hahaha
[03:59] <sameee> tremendous news,  I just installed mate as my primary os
[03:59] <sameee> that is all.
[05:12] <jose__> Guten morgen hier Jose
[05:13] <jose__> habe Ubuntu Mate
[05:13] <jose__> gute Software
[05:13] <jose__> habe leider ein Problem
[05:13] <jose__> wer kann vielleicht helfen
[08:57] <prejith> Helo
[16:54] <holden> Hi
[16:56] <mate|7612> Ubuntu mate working in a pc wiht atamon
[16:57] <mate|7612> ?
[19:28] <macjunkie> is ubuntu 17 not supported on raspi 3? don't see download links for anything other than 16 and i had tried uprading my raspi to 17 and doens't boot anymore
[19:33] <sixwheeledbeast> macjunkie: only the LTS version is available for RPi
[19:34] <macjunkie> yeah thats what i saw on the DL links wasn't sure if maybe page hadn't been updated yet or something
[19:34] <macjunkie> was running 16.0.4 on my 3 and changed streams and got it up to 16.10 before trying to upgrade to 17
[19:34] <sixwheeledbeast> It's a different build because of the architecture, RPi's are ARM
[19:37] <ali1234> you should be able to do-release-upgrade on ubuntu mate
[19:37] <ali1234> no guarantee it actually works though
[19:37] <ali1234> also it will take ages and wear out your sd card
[19:38] <sixwheeledbeast> You need to be running a working 16.04 LTS first abd there's no guarantee. I would stick with the LTS unless you need something.
[19:39] <ali1234> you can't upgrade directly from 16.04 to 17.04 you must go via 16.10
[23:22] <codymkw> How do I get VLC Media Player to show up here http://i.imgur.com/RWGpGy0.png
[23:22] <codymkw> It use to be there but isn't now its installed on my system
[23:42] <sixwheeledbeast> it should be listed in there
[23:45] <codymkw> it isn't


[01:28] <guiverc> No hurry, but can I get a dev to quickly look at https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lxqt-session/+bug/1882411 and confirm my filed package is correct  etc.. ie. last questions on my final comment (#13) .. ie. I'm after where to file upstream
[01:29] <teward> @kc2bez kc2bez: ^^
[01:30] <kc2bez> I am reading through it now
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[01:30] <teward> *kicks the bridge around for reasons*
[01:30] <guiverc> thanks guys :)
[01:33] <kc2bez> couple of comments: Groovy, where this originated, would've been LXQt 0.15, Hirsute is 0.16 and the latest upstream is 0.17
[01:34] <kc2bez> I've never noticed an issue as far as a gap (not saying you are not) so this looks tough to re-create
[01:34] <guiverc> thanks Dan/kc2bez, appreciated...  I'll re-test on opensuse then to confirm (assuming it's got 0.17)
[01:35] <kc2bez> My monitors are both horizontal though
[01:35] <guiverc> It would be tough to re-create I believe... I know what I'm looking for yet takes me quite some time to re-create..
[01:36] <guiverc> though on that box it's dead-easy to re-create; b/c of how I've positined those screens
[01:37] <guiverc> another box d780 shares same screen but doesn't have the issues; it sees the left-monitor as on the right though ie. position reversed thus no issues there..
[01:43] <kc2bez> I feel like the key to the issue is the one monitor in a vertical position. I can test that a bit tomorrow.
[01:46] <guiverc> thanks kc2bez, I think most efficient is for me to re-test in opensuse on .17 when I can cope with wrong screen orientation (my monitors aren't portrait on box with suse) which isn't now... too fearful of headache currently..  I think yes it's portrait+landscape & the left-right HAS to be one way for issue, other is no issue (why screens don't give issue on other box that shares them)
[01:47] <guiverc> the issue is not significant; I first filed it in mid-2020 & no-one has hit 'affects-me-too' !
[01:48] <kc2bez> It is a bit of an edge case but a bug nonetheless
[01:52] <kc2bez> I think the package to file under should be lxqt-config or lxqt-config-monitor though.
[01:56]  * guiverc going with lxqt-config ; didn't find a lxqt-config-monitor ;)
[01:56] <guiverc> thanks
[07:18] <guiverc> I see ref to LXDE in ubuntu-archive/seeds/lubuntu.impish/desktop ; libfm-modules; rdepends lxpanel, lubuntu-desktop, libfm4, libfm-tools etc..  ; I haven't found why it's there, why not libfm-qt - I wouldn't mind knowing :)  (what I missed as I followed rdepends looking..)
 Ref bug = https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/bluedevil/+bug/1928924 - this appears to be fixed but noticed that bluetooth is disabled by default in Lubuntu Impish


 (Photo, 489x101) https://irc.ubports.com/5S3LF9d0.png Is this true at all?
 I could see maybe back when it was owned by cannonical they didn't release source... But ubports?
[02:30] <Maik> @Iziac in what context was that posted?
 (Photo, 746x797) https://irc.ubports.com/PzlVeZRQ.png @Maik
 @Maik So my question was if this had any truth... Since he didn't offer any evidence
 @Izaic [@Maik So my question was if this had any truth... Since he didn't offer any evid …], no
 none of any of that is true
 canonical released all source they created, or were legally allowed to release
 neither bq nor meizu even have the source for the binary blobs i think, for the mtk devices
 I assume he was focused on the kernel aspect... Since ubuntu touch ports use propeitary stuff in the kernels... Not that it's their fault
 Yeah
 the kernel itself is still GPL
 all the drivers are not necessarily
 He was also specifically going back to the braveheart pinephone... Which the source for was fully released... When i called him out on that, he said he didn't wish to continue tht conversation.
 go to https://github.com/ubports and search for "kernel" if you want
[02:36] <Maik> @Iziac @dohbee thanks
 pinephone has always been open source. the only thing was there was a binary mali GPU driver used early on, but the lima driver is all open source and part of upstream
 Yeah
 ❤ Pinephone
 (though there may be changes not yet in upstream)
[02:36] <Maik> @Iziac where was that on? Telegram, Discord and what channel?
 but UT uses the pinephone kernel from git
 discord in #pine64
 Well, Pine64's #pinephone channel in their discord
[02:37] <Maik> @Izaic thanks
 lol the irony of complaining about source release on discord
 lol
 should've done some research first before complaining :P
 @UniversalSuperBox [You could insert the SD card that has the Ubuntu Touch image you were playing wi …], I got it!
 Is it just me or is Gitlab search for text just bad?
 I'm trying to find "We've send" in the Teleports application to fix that to "We've sent"
 it works well in my experience
[05:50] <ubptgbot> AtAllCosts was added by: AtAllCosts
 @ahoneybun [I'm trying to find "We've send" in the Teleports application to fix that to "We' …], Look in the pot file, there you will see file & line number reference:  https://gitlab.com/ubports/apps/teleports/-/blob/master/po/teleports.ubports.pot
 But be aware this change will invalidate the translation for all languages, and it will stay untranslated until every translator fixes it. It would be so good if po can keep versioning ^^
[08:10] <ubptgbot> Preethika Jackson was added by: Preethika Jackson
 @dohbee [at least, probably not on android based phones?], Oof. I have an iOS 7 5s that I need to reset but can't use iTunes as that forces updates
 @OVSCADMIN [Well Fedora going forward will be like Canonical with Snap packages it will forc …], I knew Snap give some problem with the btrfs filesystem snapshots...i doubt canonical will force that fs until those problems are solved
 pfff, someone spamming the ut issue tracker 😞
 @lduboeuf [pfff, someone spamming the ut issue tracker 😞], Context plz
 just see https://github.com/ubports/ubuntu-touch/issues :)
 GRAAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAA
 Done
 Woaw quick fix lol
 Sorry man if you cannot a) search for existing issues here in this tracker or b) cannot follow the issue reporting template I have to close all of your issues. We are doing this in our free time and nobody has patience to check for duplicates or ask you for each of them for making the bug report valid.
 👍
 There is an issues tracker in github and one in gitlab..what should be used?
 gitlab is for pinephone only no ?
[12:55] <ubptgbot> Bernaz was added by: Bernaz
 @lduboeuf [gitlab is for pinephone only no ?], no.
 @Aury88 [There is an issues tracker in github and one in gitlab..what should be used?], depends on where the issue is, but in general the one on github should be ok
 @Aury88 [There is an issues tracker in github and one in gitlab..what should be used?], github (ubuntu touch repo) is like a catch-all logs of issues. … you can however file issues if you're sure to specific repos … most core apps are now in gitlab
 Ok thx!👍
 @Flohack [Look in the pot file, there you will see file & line number reference:  https:// …], Thanks I found the line! 'msgid "We've send a code via telegram to your device. Please enter it here."'
 Yep you can send us an MR :) check the rest also plz
 Hello from teleports lol
 Hey!
 (Sticker, 512x512) https://irc.ubports.com/AD9C2rvo.webp
 @Flohack did this actually add you to review it? https://gitlab.com/ubports/apps/teleports/-/merge_requests/344
 @ahoneybun [@Flohack did this actually add you to review it? https://gitlab.com/ubports/apps …], I am the maintainer of teleports so no worries, it will catch my eye sooner or later :)
 \o/
 Thx good catch Aaron ;)
 :)
 I think that update reverted my u-boot version so it does not boot.
 I'm back up and running.
 hey, quick question
 are BT gamepads usable somewhere in UT?
 if they are just bluetooth HID, i guess they should maybe work
 well but where can someone test it
 it's connected
 in a game that supports keyboard input i guess
 maybe @Javacookies knows, as i've seen him mention it before
 my friend on his Mi 6
 https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/432986929668161536/751508848749183137/screenshot20200904_202242150.png
 Hi guys … Plz … I installed wechat on virtualxposed  … But i need to activated my old account or scan qr code for new account, would you please help me?
 @mnewiraq [Hi guys … Plz … I installed wechat on virtualxposed  … But i need to activated my old …], no, this is not an android or wechat support group. it is a group about https://ubuntu-touch.io
 you should find a more appropriate place to ask for help with android and wechat
 @dohbee [you should find a more appropriate place to ask for help with android and wechat], Alright … Thank you
[19:34] <ubptgbot> <mark alexa> What resolution pictures need to be for it to be suitable for UT phone as a wallpaper ? I'm on Meizu 5.
[19:36] <ubptgbot> <mark alexa> I made a custom wallpaper but trying to figure out how to make Meizu to render it nicely.
 Device's native resolution should be fine i think
[19:46] <ubptgbot> <mark alexa> @kisekinopureya [Device's native resolution should be fine i think], The picture is way off. It's super scaled out. Even when I scaled it down it did no good.
[19:46] <ubptgbot> <mark alexa> Hence I'm asking.
[20:03] <freeagent> Howdy room.  I'm hopping someone can confirm/deny the latest build 77 of ubports runs on the latest PinePhone 3gig v1.2 Community Edition
 Nope
[20:49] <ubptgbot> Bodzey was added by: Bodzey
[21:00] <freeagent> amyosx: thanks for the info. I'll just have to wait and see with ubports then.
[21:05] <ubptgbot> 'Dayo Olutayo was added by: 'Dayo Olutayo
[22:07] <ubptgbot> ivan_avalos was added by: ivan_avalos
 Hello. Do you have some image for the PINEBOOK Pro?
 Also, where's the IRC channel?
 freenode
 OK, thanks.
 @ivan_avalos [Also, where's the IRC channel?], ubports or pine64?
 ubports is freenode and pine have their own
[22:11] <avalos_> UBports, I'm already in!
[22:14] <avalos_> So, where can I find pre-built images? The other time I downloaded an amd64 image.
[22:14] <avalos_> Where can I find an arm64 one?
 i don't think there's an image for pinebook
 there's no generic arm64 image
[22:16] <avalos_> :( There are no generic arm64 images in general, right?
 right
[22:17] <avalos_> Because there's a lot of hardware dependent stuff on each.
 arm devices are special snowflakes
 correct avalos, it's the same for android and other arm distros
[22:17] <avalos_> I heard the PINEPHONE complains because it has 3 GB instead of 2.
 the issue with that is being worked on
 yeah the u-boot needs to be updated to work properly
[22:19] <avalos_> I found this: https://ci.ubports.com/job/rootfs/job/rootfs-pinebook/
[22:20] <avalos_> Does it support the Pro, though? Or only the non-Pro one?
 i don't know
 @avalos_ [Does it support the Pro, though? Or only the non-Pro one?], @UniversalSuperBox might know
 Pinebook. If it was the pro it would say so :D
 when ota 13 release ?
 Wednesday
 @UniversalSuperBox [Wednesday], I'm excited about the new selection thing in Morph


 (Photo, 956x1280) https://irc.ubports.com/MZ41gtdg/file_3727.jpg
 (Photo, 956x1280) https://irc.ubports.com/Nx4HAesp/file_3729.jpg
 What's this for if it wil wipe the phone anyway?
 Perhaps it won't wipe it anyway if Ubuntu Touch is already installed. I was able to install 16.04, and then back to 15.04 without wiping the phone.
 will this also install a new recovery or something?
 Yes, it installs Ubports Recovery
 @XavierXX There are some more experienced people in the Welcome&Install chat here if you like https://t.me/WelcomePlus :)
 thank you :)
 is there a plan to have 16.04 builds for Nexus 7 2013? it's collecting dust in my cabinet 😁
 @Stereofont, Anbox is by no means an emulator. All Android apps are executed natively
 @morphis, Yups. Anbox is not simulator either. :)
 does anbox support the oneplus one and if not is there a device status list
 Device status list:
 end of list
 Anbox isn't ready yet, but when it is it will likely be running on all devices
 there's a page already for the instructions, it lsits PRO 5 and M10 as supported for now
 I guess that's true, but don't expect it to be easy to do at this point
 All very alpha
 yeah, I haven't seen any posts/videos about it so I was actually surprised the instructions was released already
 Good morning. My browser doesnt open( waited 2 min with turbibg circle and browser icon). Already cleared cache and app data in uttweaktool. Any ideas? Bq e5hd, stable.
 have you tried to reboot device?
 https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/the-mirabook-turn-your-smartphone-into-a-laptop-mobile-android#/ they use slimport to connect to a phone
 @Jo_Led, Restart the phone helps in my case
 @delijati, slimport rules out a lot of devices. if the keyboard is also bluetooth and if there is either a built in miracast dongle, or a powered USB port right next to a HDMI input port so i could connect one myself, it's not quite there yet
 also someone needs to tell these guys to update their list of OS's. AFIK remix is no more and they don't list UT
 they choosed slimport but there are so many alternatives and all kind suck "MHL over USB C, HDMI over USB C, DisplayLink, SlimPort, Miracast ... " it remindes me of this https://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/standards.png
 well, there are only a few on Ubuntu Touch. that's the ones i care about :)
 and wireless is the future
 @samitormanen, Hrhrhhr, no. Will do now, was listening to music earlier and didnt want to stop :D
 also they don't have to build a full miracast  dongle into their device. just provide HDMI input and powered usb ports to a) charge the phone and b) power a separate dongle
 the slimport cable could already charge the phone even if the phone doesn't have slimport
 i have the dongle already
 It's a shame the oneplus one doesn't support any of this and it has to be built into the hardware right?
 yeah you need either usb-to-hdmi specific chips (MHL, slimport) or a fast enough usb 3.1 connection
 if you look at the android alternatives, samsung uses slimport for s8 dex and huawei uses usb 3.1 for the mate 10 pro
 so i guess we're stuck with slimport / nexus 5 until there's a lineageos version of the newer phones we can port
 HTC 10 is a good candidate and I'm hoping it'll builds will be released soon...and hopefully it'll be cheaper :D
 Am waiting for how the librem 5 will turn out even though i haven't backed it i hope it will turn out right
 true both - librem promised convergence, which means they'll probably be prepared for it :)
 And they also promised being able to run any linux distro
 i did back it out of principle, but they said early 2019
 so next year if they manage to stay on track
[09:08] <tgBot3> <Lukas Wolfskin> (Sticker, 512x512) https://irc.ubports.com/UmkRBEVt/file_3730
[09:09] <tgBot3> <Lukas Wolfskin> @XavierXX, With you on that one @XavierXX
 @morphis, This implies that every function of every Android app will run. That was not my understanding.  A clarification of why it is not an emulator would be helpful
 @Javacookies, Not supported. Published in very early test form
 Is there a qr-code reader for ut
 @Stereofont, An emulator emulates something but Anbox is only abstracting hardware access and adapt things from Ubuntu into the Android system. You can call it an adapter if you want a name for it.
 @Jo_Led, Sounds like it went into a loop last time it was used and is refusing to close properly?  It can't start until it closes. Just a thought
 @Jo_Led, Try to listen on UTmedia. That may solve your problem
 @morphis, So it is like a cousin of Halium?
 Halium works in the other direction. It provides hardware access to Ubuntu where Anbox consumes it from Ubuntu.
 But otherwise they are similar
 @nanu_c, https://open.uappexplorer.com/app/com.ubuntu.developer.mzanetti.tagger
 @Stereofont, yeah, but I'm hopeful, it's quite powerful with 820 and 4GB of ram and slimport support
 I need a possibillity to scan qr codes inside the signal app to link devices. :)
 @morphis, Cousins 😎
 @Javacookies, I meant Anbox is is not supported anywhere.There are just early builds for a couple of devices
 @nanu_c, We have Tagger. Can you link them?
 If they cannot be used in parallel,  maybe the two developers can discuss?
 @Stereofont, oh I see, I was talking about the convergence regarding the Mirabook,LOL
 It  would be nice to tell the tagger "hey scan this and give me the answer"
 @nanu_c, It did. I wonder what went wrong.
 random browser weirdness
 (Photo, 1075x130) https://irc.ubports.com/SCPvYudY/file_3732.jpg
 comparing UT apps vs X apps … they're more than double! 😱 … not sure though if these are accurate
 I mean memory usage...forgot to say that LOL
 Someone tried to port Ubuntu Touch on Amazon Fire 7 tablet? Is it possible or not?
[11:43] <tgBot3> kevit was added by: kevit
 @kevit, Welcome Kevit! Ask questions, join in. Glad to have you in our community. https://ubports.com/page/telegram-welcome for lots of newcomer information 🚪
 @tydell, Pretty much impossible
 Hello all, just started to play around with ubports
 is there openvpn guide somewhere? looks like networkmanager bit broken
 looks like known issue https://askubuntu.com/questions/754878/how-to-setup-openvpn-provided-with-ota10-on-ubuntu-touch
 @Stereofont, I thought that too, good that already LineageOS and AOSP is working on this thing :) but unfortunately it is only 5.1.x Lollipop :(
[13:07] <tgBot3> <Lukas Wolfskin> question: which is more developed/current — stable v3 or development  r285?
[13:09] <tgBot3> <Lukas Wolfskin> for nexus 5...  sorry
[13:22] <tgBot3> <蔡 荣诠🐕> 啊，hey gays
[13:22] <tgBot3> <蔡 荣诠🐕> lol
[13:22] <tgBot3> <蔡 荣诠🐕> (Document) https://irc.ubports.com/F60ar2VN/file_3734.mp4
 @蔡 荣诠🐕, Well that's awkward
[13:22] <tgBot3> <蔡 荣诠🐕> sorry
[13:23] <tgBot3> <蔡 荣诠🐕> 🙊
 Please do not
[13:24] <tgBot3> <蔡 荣诠🐕> Opps
[13:24] <tgBot3> <蔡 荣诠🐕> Do you know Chromebook?
 Yeah
 I have one
[13:30] <tgBot3> <蔡 荣诠🐕> the os is not good
[13:30] <tgBot3> <蔡 荣诠🐕> so。。。
 Yeah, ChromeOS sucks
[13:30] <tgBot3> <蔡 荣诠🐕> (Photo, 720x1280) https://irc.ubports.com/FT377DtE/file_3736.jpg
 Nah, I prefer Ubuntu
 ;)
[13:31] <tgBot3> <蔡 荣诠🐕> Ubuntu👍👍
 @jeffangelion, I like the UI
 @蔡 荣诠🐕, nice dp
 @jeffangelion, it's good actually
[13:43] <tgBot3> <蔡 荣诠🐕> 😂
[13:43] <tgBot3> <蔡 荣诠🐕> ui is nice
 it really is, and the boot time is impressive
[13:44] <tgBot3> <蔡 荣诠🐕> It can run Android by the way
 it certainly can
[13:44] <tgBot3> <蔡 荣诠🐕> year😂
 and Chrome OS' stability is good too (as per the design)
 @蔡 荣诠🐕, bot really :P
 *not
[13:45] <tgBot3> <蔡 荣诠🐕> what about pixel book？
 @蔡 荣诠🐕, what about it?
[13:45] <tgBot3> <蔡 荣诠🐕> the new one
[13:46] <tgBot3> <蔡 荣诠🐕> emm，i am not good at English...
[13:47] <tgBot3> <蔡 荣诠🐕> (Photo, 630x315) https://irc.ubports.com/itNSs1Ej/file_3738.jpg
[13:47] <tgBot3> <蔡 荣诠🐕> This
 @蔡 荣诠🐕, the hardware looks good, thr OS looks good. But the OS ia not as powerful as other options available to be installed on it
 Anyone has a OPO with: … - Recovery working … - no way to fastboot … I'm trying to put ubuntu on it, but mdt doesnt detect it (can't fastboot) … https://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-one/help/opo-boot-fastboot-mode-t3732208#post75172382
 @Javacookies, I've always had good experience with HTC hardware... they seem not as popular these days... hmm.. I'm going to guess one of these hardware guys is going to have someone smart on their team and work with us... that's my 2018 prediction.
 @arudy, have you tried ubports-installer? MDT doesn't work on my Nexus 7 as well
 ubports-installer did it, just use --devmode when using snap
 Going to give it a try, but it seems i can't fastboot, only recovery still
 try adb reboot fastboot when in recovery
 (Photo, 1280x720) https://irc.ubports.com/22bsA4x1/file_3740.jpg
 topaz gold is awesome
 😍 you're the on working with halium, right? … do you have UT on your HTC 10? … my eyes on that device if ever we get official UT support :D
[14:28] <tgBot3> <Sebastian R.> @arudy, had the exact same problem with my Nexus 5. Try "Install using system-image server" from the installation site: https://devices.ubports.com/#/bacon  … This worked perfectly well for me
 @Javacookies, yes, I am the one who initially ported HTC 10. Yes, UT works on it (not everything ready, but we're working on it). I'm also working with Nexus 5x
 Both Nexus 4 and Nexus 5 on the picture also run UT (the ones that have stickers applied)
 HTC 10 supports Slimport via Type-C, but I can't really test it, as I don't have an adapter
 feel free to send me one lol
 @蔡 荣诠🐕, no support atm, but we might play with chromeOS devices at some point. it could be possible to run chromeOS on top of Halium
 they are expensive as hell and not available worldwide what makes it hard for us to get ahold of one
 if that makes sense to you
 @蔡 荣诠🐕, please don't off top in this chat, we have a dedicated Supergroup for these kinds of discussions: @ubports_ot
 @vanyasem, I don't have it too and if I have one, I'll keep it to myself LOL … good luck with the work :)
 @vanyasem, also, please, don't use Windows. you're not in the right place for that
 @Javacookies, I assume you replied to a wrong message
 yeah, I thought, that was one big message 😅
 hi all, just to know before breaking everything on my device (this is my daily driver... :) ): … I've built messaging-app from github src and would like to launch it to the device, will it erase any existing datas or make problems with already installed messaging-app ?
 why did you do that? … I think it won't affect your data unless you changed something in the code that will manipulate your data
 just for fun, and why not try to fix this historic issue https://github.com/ubports/messaging-app/issues/2 :)
 i'm pretty sure that is not a hard issue for someone used to Qt/QML , that not the case for me ^^
 have you tested it already and working? … why don't you try to merge it so that we can all benefit from it ;)
 no i'm afraid of testing it directly
 the problem with that is that I don't know how you can restore the delivered version, I don't think it's in the store
 do you have a click file?
 yeah right, this is a system app
 no it is a self executable binary
 I want to help to test, I can install a temporary UT but I don't have space on my nexus 5 anymore 😅
 I want that to be fixed as well, that's an old, overdue bug inherited even from Canonical :)
[15:08] <tgBot3> Lenny Marks was added by: Lenny Marks
 @Lenny Marks, Welcome!
[15:11] <tgBot3> <Lenny Marks> Hi!
 @Lenny Marks, Heyo!
[15:58] <tgBot3> Yunus B was added by: TCEYHAN
 @Javacookies, yes so old bug :/ would be great if you try something ^ ^
 i successfully built it on clickable docker image but 15.04
 need to had some librares though to image
 `libnotify-dev:armhf` `xvfb` `lcov` and `gcovr`
 @wayneoutthere, let's hope for the prediction to come true :)
[16:13] <tgBot3> ch was added by: ch
 Could I delete the account of "Ububtu One" or it is used for something?
 @Cesar_Herrera, Push notifications needs it
 Tanks.
 Hello Lenny , @TCEYHAN , and ch and welcome! I'm part of the UBports welcoming team. … To help you get started, please take a look right away at our newcomers welcome page (https://ubports.com/page/telegram-welcome) and thanks again for joining us! :)
 What's the differnce between the 15.04 vs the 16.04 branch?
 @XavierXX, 15.04 is supported now, 16.04 will be supported once it has been finished and tested.
 Anyone familiar with using the ffmpeg command line utility to, say, convert mkv to mp4 frame by frame? Would this many writes harm a UT device's micro SD card, or is it not really a problem if it's mostly performed in RAM (and so is it mostly a memory process)?
 @XavierXX, Well do you know how Ubuntu releases work?
 Yes LTS And
 @XavierXX, See here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases 15.04 was end of life already 02/2016
 So even if @alan_griffiths says its supported, this means only the phone is stable on 15.04 and we have the Apps targeting it.
 Kk then i will go for 16.04
 We urgently need to bring everything to 16.04 to get all upstream patches from Canonical builds
 Well its not stable yet ;)
 You cannot use it as a daily phone
 How easy is it to debug compared to arch ;)
 @XavierXX, You mean to solve this issues: https://github.com/ubports/ubuntu-touch/milestone/7
 @TartanSpartan, its fine, it would not ware your  storage memory more than making a copy operation of a movie clip. recompression happens in RAM. Unless u do multinpass than still ok.
 but it will not be super fast on UT.
 this is my old project that i used for mak8ng video proxy files on Linux that is a front-end to ffmpeg … https://sourceforge.net/projects/front4ffmpeg/
 i ran it on UT it worked
 both gui and cli
 u can see the code how i call ffmeg
 italso compiles on UT
 @Flohack, Still for something that's still being build and in very active development with a small team that aren't  that many issues
 @Lukas Wolfskin, I think this got lost? It is more that these are quite different things. One is daily driver, the other is trying stuff out to see if it works. For 15.04, it isn't really about getting early fixes anymore. Almost everyone is better off on stable
 @arudy, Badly performed soldering could have caused damage to nearby components
 @alan_griffiths, We need this as a sticker 😎
 @Stereofont, I have the device right booted to twrp, but i have no PC for few moments. Waiting the end of a meeting to try something again
 @KrisJacewicz interesting, does your work have superior performance to the standard ffmpeg? Using that it took 2-3 hours to convert and downscale a 720p mkv into a 480p MP4.
[17:12] <tgBot3> <Lukas Wolfskin> @wayneoutthere, Thumbs up!
[17:19] <tgBot3> <Lukas Wolfskin> @Stereofont, That's what I thought... but thought I might clear that up for my own state of mind, and anyone who might be bouncing beteween update channels.  Thanks!
 I see your program is compiled for x86 architecture according to the filename. Will it install on a UT device?
 Relatedly, Libertine fails to boot up as of late... take it I'm not the first to notice this?
 @Flohack, Yeah. I should have said "works", not 'is supported".
[17:48] <tgBot3> <Lukas Wolfskin> @DanChapman @Stereofont regarding the command text2ngram -n 1 -l -f sqlite —append -o /path/to/database /path.to.new.txt … executed on my laptop with no issue (size of the database grew, more or less, with by the size of the added .txt files), but in the adb shell the terminal tells me  … phablet@ubuntu-phablet:~$ whereis presage … presage: /etc/presage.xml /usr/share/presage … phablet@ubuntu-phablet:~$ text2ngram -n 2 -l -f sqlite
[17:48] <tgBot3> /usr/share/presage/database_en.db /home/phablet/Downloads/war_of_the_worlds.txt … bash: text2ngram: command not found …  tool isn't part of the UBports build...
 Another thing. Sailbook is a useful Facebook client as it allows access to Messenger too. But rarely, it will redirect to the irritating "install Messenger for Android!" prompt. Is there a way to route it back to a web interface for Messenger which is obviously what we UT Master-race desire?
 @TartanSpartan, You get this prompt ? Thats verry strange as i use have test it and my testers also and we dont get it...
 @TartanSpartan, you used 'facebook' and 'useful' in the same sentence.
 😹😹😹
 @wayneoutthere, 😂
 @KrisJacewicz You said I can connect the rp3 to the phone by wifi and being it an access point too. I tried it but at last I have to say I'm not able. I ask you a detailed explanation (as for dummies). Thanks.
 @Lukas Wolfskin, Over to Dan. I have no clue whatever 😀
 @Lukas Wolfskin, yeah you would need to install the tool
 in theory, how usable is Unity 8 desktop mode on phone (with keyboard)?
[19:51] <tgBot3> <Lukas Wolfskin> @DanChapman, Buuut, the tool is PART of presage. :-/ can't get it as a standalone. I don't want to break my UT install by installing presage  via command line. Can I copy the relevant text2ngram files from 'puter to phone?
[19:52] <tgBot3> <Lukas Wolfskin> (Sticker, 392x512) https://irc.ubports.com/t96YGrxN/file_3746
 i had a dream and it was... libertine workin in the N5
[19:53] <tgBot3> <Lukas Wolfskin> And the Ubuntu keyboard has its own english database... What's that for? Hunspell has one, Ubuntu keyboard in maliit has one, and presage has one...
 @NotKit, Somewhat usable, some bugs like apps opening in very small size and issues switching from phone to desktop and vice versa. Indicators is not mouse or keyboard friendly, but I'd it's quite usable already, I use my Nexus 5 quite often in this setup ;)
 @DanChapman, Why?
 @Lukas Wolfskin, This is what happens when you start poking around …
[21:02] <tgBot3> <Lukas Wolfskin> @Stereofont, ??? Thing is, I'm still figuring out simple code. I have no idea how to find out why they're there, and what they're used for... 🤓🤔😢
 @morphis could patches to enable musl libc support in theory be accepted in libhybris?
 it's not very huge on its own, but lots of #ifdef GLIBC
 @Lukas Wolfskin, I am not even at that stage. I think you will find more sticky tape and string than you were expecting, when you take things apart 😜
 https://github.com/NotKit/libhybris/commit/c4f64d11c8d82761d7b89f1d183de579859972f3
[21:16] <tgBot3> <Lukas Wolfskin> @Stereofont, But thats the fun part about home repair, auto repair, computer repair and software tweaking!
 @NotKit, Send it as PR and we will have a look
 Hello boys and girls, I am now trying to flash ubuntu on my bacon (oneplus one), I've set up ubuntu on a virtual machine (the host is arch linux), I've forwarded the usb with my bacon to the hamburger with ubuntu, and snapped ubports-installer.  Starting ubports-installer with root permissions doesn't solve t
[21:47] <tgBot3> problem. Can you guys give me some directions where to dig?
 ADB debugging is enabled on the phone
 @inchw0rm, Virtual Machine doesn't play nice with USB ports. That would be my first thought
 @inchw0rm, And OEM is unlocked?
 @inchw0rm, VM you say? Have you installed guest additions?
 @Stereofont, I am confident it does, I was able to start a adb shell manually
 @inchw0rm, You set default to MTP, not charge or camera
 @TronFortyTwo, I did
 @Stereofont, k setting to MTP
 @Stereofont, Didn't do anything. Anyway I tried manually setting the phone model to oneplus one. This time it won't do anything if it gets into fastboot mode
 When I start the phone in fastboot mode, the screen still tells me to reboot to bootloader
 @inchw0rm, Unplug and replug. Try 5x cables and 3x ports
 Is there a step-by-step manual how to do stuff instead of the strange windows way of ubports-installer? I wouldn't mind getting roms and putting them on by hands
 @inchw0rm, Installer room is best. These discussions can run on a while
 It was linked in your welcome message
 @Stereofont, Thank you
 ubports isn't an android rom. you can't grab a zip and install it with twrp like android roms
 @dohbee, Alrighty, but this piece of... art, does perform something, if a program can do it, it can be done manually
 @inchw0rm, ubuntu-device-flash
 @Stereofont, Thank you
 @inchw0rm, don't follow the one in github, try to remove -edge when installing the snap, just -devmode
 @Javacookies, Got everything working, thanks


[02:37] <nlsthzn> SilverCode, sorry I was already in bed :p - yup it is a moba, but it is trying to make it more friendly by removing some of the things that make people behave badly in moba's :)
[02:37] <nlsthzn> they don't succeed 100% unfortunatly
[05:30] <bduk1> More almal
[05:50] <Kilos> hi bduk1  charl  nuvolari  nlsthzn  and others
[05:53] <nuvolari> oh hi oom Kilos
[05:55] <nlsthzn> allo everybody
[05:56] <nlsthzn> hex chat spell checker in Windows full of crap...
[05:56] <nlsthzn> grrr
[05:56] <Kilos> haha
[06:00] <nlsthzn> how are you uncle Kilos?
[06:00] <nlsthzn> Weather better now I hope
[06:01] <Kilos> good ty and you nlsthzn  ?
[06:01] <nlsthzn> ok thanks...
[06:01] <Kilos> just starting to warm up now
[06:01] <Kilos> hopefully
[06:02] <nlsthzn> finally :p
[06:04]  * Kilos hopes
[06:04] <Kilos> been a long winter
[06:08] <bduk1> Watter winter???
[06:08] <bduk1> When??
[06:09] <Kilos> lol
[06:09] <Kilos> shurrup jy
[06:09] <bduk1> ok back in my corner
[06:09] <Kilos> ek het nie n vet laag wat my kan warm hou nie
[06:09] <bduk1> Ek ok nie
[06:09] <Kilos> lol
[06:10] <Kilos> ek het baie koud gekry hierdie winter
[06:10] <Kilos> en die koue het al in april begin
[06:11] <bduk1> There was two days that was a bit cold but i'm still wearing short sleeve shirts everyday
[06:12] <Kilos> oh you one of the thick skinned peeps
[06:12] <bduk1> Didn't even put my second short sleeve shirt on on those cold days
[06:13] <bduk1> dikvel
[06:13] <Kilos> ja
[06:13] <Kilos> i have a long sleeve shirt on now and 2 track suit tops
[06:14] <bduk1> kilos from Alaska
[06:14] <Kilos> haha
[06:15] <Kilos> and up till yesterday wore a sheep skin woolen jacket on top of all of it
[06:15] <bduk1> I will burn up if i have to do that, i only got long pants on cause i have to
[06:15] <Kilos> sjoe
[06:39] <Kilos> hi drussell
[06:41] <Squirm> morning
[06:41] <Squirm> Maaz: coffee on
[06:41]  * Maaz washes some mugs
[06:41] <Squirm> Maaz: largest
[06:41] <Maaz> Whew do you want a bath full Squirm?
[06:42] <Squirm> so
[06:42] <Squirm> I'm looking to purchase a lot of fiber
[06:42] <Kilos> hi Squirm
[06:42] <Kilos> Maaz  coffee please
[06:42] <Maaz> Kilos: Righto
[06:42] <Squirm> anyone have any good, decent, reliable suppliers? Preferably Durban but can push Jhb
[06:43] <Squirm> We can't find anyone that really wants our business
[06:43] <Squirm> all COD
[06:43] <Kilos> what do you want to buy?
[06:43] <Squirm> fiber
[06:44] <Kilos> sjoe moving up hey
[06:44] <Squirm> well, slowly...
[06:44] <Squirm> we're putting it in this year, but only going to start lighting it next year
[06:44] <Kilos> have you got fibre to there?
[06:45] <Squirm> no
[06:45] <Squirm> we have it around campus
[06:45] <Squirm> makes our backbone
[06:45] <Squirm> all of our long runs are fiber
[06:45] <Maaz> Coffee's ready for Squirm and Kilos!
[06:45] <Kilos> did you look at the link i put in here yesterday first thing
[06:45] <Squirm> Maaz: thanks
[06:45] <Maaz> Squirm: Sure
[06:45] <Kilos> new tech stuff as fast as fiber
[06:45] <Squirm> I saw that
[06:46] <Squirm> but it'll cost a little more
[06:46] <Kilos> ah
[06:46] <Squirm> and won't really work here
[06:46] <Kilos> ok
[06:46] <Squirm> LOS, Lightning, Mist, etc
[06:46] <Squirm> bbiab
[07:05] <Squirm> and cost
[07:05] <Squirm> :P
[07:17] <inetpro> good mornings
[07:17] <Kilos> hi inetpro
[07:24] <bduk1> hi Squirm you can try this guy Harry Schoeman from IT Extention solutions.<PHONE_NUMBER>. He did some fibre for me.
[07:25] <Kilos> hi Spekko
[07:25] <bduk1> You can also try BERTUS VAN STADEN
[07:25] <bduk1> Cellular No :<PHONE_NUMBER> from Hensta. They re-fibre my whole prison a few years ago.
[07:38] <Spekko> more Kilos
[08:28] <Kilos> hi Xethron
[09:11] <charl> good morning
[09:11] <charl> Maaz: coffee on
[09:11]  * Maaz starts grinding coffee
[09:12] <charl> hi Kilos
[09:12] <charl> hi Spekko, bduk1, inetpro, Squirm
[09:15] <Maaz> Coffee's ready for charl!
[09:17] <charl> Maaz: thanks :)
[09:17] <Maaz> no problem, charl
[09:50] <charl> finished the bed build yesterday evening http://i.imgur.com/zpldFDK.jpg
[09:50] <charl> it looks nice !
[09:50] <charl> took about 7 hours
[09:51] <Kilos> hehe at least its done
[09:53] <charl> i'm glad i'm thoroughly tired of it
[09:53] <charl> now it's good i have a bed to sleep on so i can rest it out
[09:53] <Kilos> mattress?
[09:54] <charl> yes i got it in the other room, still need to roll it out
[09:54] <charl> will do that tonight
[09:55] <charl> still sleeping on my old bed for the moment
[09:55] <Kilos> roll it out?
[09:55] <Kilos> camping mattress?
[09:55] <charl> no it's a pocket-spring mattress
[09:55] <charl> but they deliver it in rolled up form
[09:55] <charl> typical ikea
[09:55] <Kilos> lol
[09:56] <charl> the swedish are good at rolling
[09:56] <Kilos> im still in the age of a steal bed frame with wooden head and footboards
[09:56] <charl> "they see me rolling, they hatin'"
[09:56] <Kilos> steel
[09:57] <Kilos> and sealy posturepedic or slumberland mattress
[09:57] <charl> i think i had one of those mattresses when i was a kid, i don't even know anymore
[09:58] <Kilos> you definitely cant roll them up
[09:58] <charl> nah that won't work
[09:58] <charl> but a pocket spring mattress rolls up easily
[09:59] <charl> because you have individual pockets that can be compressed
[09:59] <charl> those are the best sellers now at the ikea
[09:59] <charl> they are comfortable and give good support
[10:00] <Kilos> had a ruf international i think it was called, but beds seem to follow exxes
[10:01] <Kilos> you can still fight for the house but you lose the bed everytime
[10:02] <charl> lol
[11:14] <charl> hmmm ipv6 died
[12:20] <inetpro> charl: ipv6 died?
[12:31] <charl> inetpro: yeah there seems to be a routing problem somewhere in amsterdam
[12:31] <charl> so i lost my connection to wilhelm
[12:31] <charl> connected to kornbluth now
[12:31] <inetpro> ai!
[12:32] <charl> ah i see it's fixed now, brb
[12:36] <charl> it's interesting to me how ipv6 traffic increased over the last year, doubled at the amsix
[12:37] <charl> https://ams-ix.net/technical/statistics/sflow-stats/ipv6-traffic
[15:13] <magespawn> how all
[15:15] <magespawn> dy
[15:20] <Kilos> hi magespawn
[15:29] <magespawn> looks like my quassel is misbehaving
[15:49] <Kilos> hehe
[16:52] <charl__> what the heck is up with freenode today
[16:52] <charl__> more ddos or something ? srsly ?
[16:52] <magespawn> not sure just got here myself
[16:52] <charl__> hi magespawn
[16:53] <charl__> there was an ipv6 problem too today in amsterdam it seems
[16:53] <charl__> interwebs are on the fritz
[16:55] <magespawn> yup
[17:09] <charl> this is why i *hate* nickname registration
[17:09] <charl> it's such a hack
[17:09] <charl> you people keep arguing with me, irc was not designed like this
[17:45] <magespawn> i am seriously struggling with a centos system running asterisk right now
[17:58] <magespawn> anyone know what this means 1859 segmentation fault /sbin/kudzu
[18:10] <Kilos> isnt Squirm  the centos man magespawn
[19:15] <magespawn> got it right
[19:15] <Kilos> good man
[19:15] <magespawn> it looks like the power to the dahdi card was faulty
[19:16] <Kilos> battling on your own makes it easier to remember the solution
[19:16] <Kilos> but
[19:16] <Kilos> document all these fixes you find
[19:17] <Kilos> for future reference if nothing else
[19:29] <magespawn> it does make it easier, you sometimes find a lot more tools/info/skills on your way to the solution too
[19:34] <magespawn> right i am off to bath, then bed and tv for a bit, and sleep. good night all
[21:07] <Kilos> night all. sleep tight
[22:01] <arnaud__> Hello Guys
[23:17] <arnaud__> hello


[04:47] <clavin12> hello?
[10:34] <bsdestroyer> hello. there is by default no Xorg config file?
[10:36] <psycho_oreos> yup
[10:36] <bsdestroyer> my X sets up by default 16bpp for my screen
[10:36] <bsdestroyer> I'd like to try to change that to 24
[10:36] <psycho_oreos> you could get xorg to dump the config file for you to hack away
[10:37] <bsdestroyer> how do you do that?
[10:40] <psycho_oreos> Xorg -configure
[10:42] <bsdestroyer> ok. other question: could what I just mentionned (being in 16bpp) be responsible for problems I experience with wine? namely, crashing on any app start. (even wine configuration tool causes X to reboot)
[10:50] <psycho_oreos> its a little hard to say when you're dealing with wine, have you asked in their support channels yet?
[11:58] <bazhang> !appdb | bsdestroyer
[11:58] <bazhang> bsdestroyer, /join #winehq
[12:06] <bsdestroyer> ok so.. it appears i have a prob with /dev/fb0 too, anyway, cannot get into any VT to run the Xorg -configure command
[12:09] <bsdestroyer> ideas?
[12:27] <bsdestroyer> hello?
[12:37] <bazhang> bsdestroyer, better to explain exactly what you are trying to do
[12:43] <bsdestroyer> i want to set up 24bpp instead of 16bpp for my screen
[12:43] <bsdestroyer> someone suggested to generaate Xorg's config file with Xorg -configure so I could hack it manually
[12:43] <bsdestroyer> but, I cannot run that command, or any command outside of X
[12:43] <bsdestroyer> X is all that works on this laptop it seems, virtual terminal F1-F6 are not functionnal, I suspect because of broken/missing framebuffer stuff
[12:43] <bsdestroyer> so i'm stuck
[12:43] <bsdestroyer> that would be 2 problems so. fix Xorg, and fix virtual terminals
[12:43] <bsdestroyer> running Xorg -configure while X is running, doesn't work also
[12:43] <bsdestroyer> bazhang: there that is my prob :P
[12:45] <bsdestroyer> did my messages make it through?
[12:46] <bazhang> bsdestroyer, change the framebuffer?
[12:46] <bsdestroyer> i'm not familiar with this stuff.. there are different framebuffers? how do you mean?
[12:47] <bazhang> bsdestroyer, not sure how that is connected to your screen resolution; you cannot get to a tty? is this in virtualbox or the like?
[12:47] <bsdestroyer> i got default xubuntu 10.10 install on this old laptop with poor gpu (savage driver iirc)
[12:48] <bsdestroyer> no, its on the actual hardware
[12:48] <bsdestroyer> not VM
[12:49] <bsdestroyer> pressing ctrl-alt-F1 doesnt bring me to a terminal as it hsould, but to garbled screen
[12:52] <bsdestroyer> going back to F7 would also cause Xorg crash/reboot
[12:52] <bsdestroyer> erm.. whats the new location for /etc/inittab!??
[12:53] <bazhang> !upstart
[12:53] <bsdestroyer> bazhang: you have more info about changing the framebuffer? i dont even know what it means
[12:54] <bazhang> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FrameBuffer#grub
[13:46] <fmax30> how do i change the processor speed in xubuntu(using a pentium m) ?
[13:57] <Harry> Hello!!!
[14:03] <brot> fmax30: if your processor supports it it should work out of box
[14:06] <histo> does 11.04 have xfce 4.8
[14:06] <bazhang> histo, #ubuntu+1 for natty please
[14:06] <histo> Trying to figure something out with 4.8. If you browse to a samba share and gvfs mounts it. Thunar doesn't show it as a mount. It's not put on the desktop etc...
[14:07] <histo> bazhang: the guys in #ubuntu+1 don't use xfce
[14:07] <bazhang> histo, sure they do.  its all natty related question, lxde kde4 xfce4 etc
[14:18] <Guest17533> I got a problem with the network manager. Basicly i got no nm-appalet (xbuntu 10.4)
[14:55] <bsdestroyer> it seems I messed my X even more, which is weird because I did not edit any file
[15:00] <bsdestroyer> all I did was go to tty, stop gdm, and run startx with different bitdepth
[15:00] <bsdestroyer> now, after reboot, I can't login as usual in gdm, it causes X to reboot instantly
[15:01] <bsdestroyer> this happens since i tried the different bitdepth
[15:03] <bsdestroyer> also now, the startx thing is said above fails too for that user
[15:04] <bsdestroyer> but works for other user (root)
[15:06] <bsdestroyer> log talks about ddxGiveUp in the end
[15:06] <bsdestroyer> ermf
[15:10] <bsdestroyer> i'm pissed
[15:12] <epdv> Hello! I want to install Xubuntu 10.10 alternate, but couldn't find any installation instructions. :-(
[15:13] <bsdestroyer> first time i hear about it.
[15:13] <bsdestroyer> what is it?
[15:15] <epdv> Especially, should support LVM and other special features.
[15:15] <Sysi> text-based installer
[15:15] <Sysi> it's pretty simple
[15:15] <Sysi> basic debian installer afaik
[15:16] <epdv> Are there any instructions available?
[15:17] <bsdestroyer> I always hated X
[15:18] <epdv> It's funny to have a link for bug reporting but none for installing ... probably I first should report about missing docs?
[15:19] <Sysi> basic installation is about just pressing enter
[15:19] <Sysi> i guess there's different docs for LVM and such
[15:23] <Sysi> https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/installation-guide/i386/index.html
[15:23] <epdv> Hm, I wanted what to do before installing, not to ask when I've probably already made some bad things.
[15:24] <Sysi> see url above
[15:26] <epdv> Thank You, that's at least a starting point (which I couldn't find using google - too many unrelated docs).
[15:26] <epdv> BTW, You're too quick for me - I'm still thinking how to tell You sth. while You're already answering, sorry.
[15:27] <epdv> Thank You very much, going to read :-)
[15:28] <Sysi> nice exception i could say
[16:26] <bigbrovar> hi guys I am considering xfce as a desktop enviroment. just need to ask some questions about it.  does xubuntu ship pulse audio by default? and is it possible to use the msg indicator on xubuntu?
[16:27] <Sysi> pulseaudio is shipped but pavucontrol isn't, dunno about "social media", somebody other maybe does
[16:31] <bigbrovar> sysi the msg indicator is not a social media app. its an applet on ubuntu which agregated incoming msges  from IM and email clients agregating them into one notifier
[16:32] <bigbrovar> its also available on kubuntu
[16:32] <Sysi> gnome panel plugins work with xfapplet, it it works on systray it will also
[16:37] <bigbrovar> sysi thanks. But are there any over head of running gnome applets in xfce? do I loose integeration?
[16:37] <Sysi> i'd guess not very much
[17:13] <bigbrovar> Has anyone tried running xfce 4.8 on Xubuntu using the packages made available for  10.10
[17:14] <bigbrovar> how smooth was the upgrade?
[17:14] <charlie-tca> where did you find 10.10 packages for xfce 4.8?
[17:18] <charlie-tca> AFAIK, to upgrade 10.10 to Xfce4.8, you have to compile the packages yourself
[17:58] <bigbrovar> charlie-tca: funny there are packages for 10.04 weird
[17:59] <Sysi> LTS
[18:04] <charlie-tca> bigbrovar: where did you find them?
[18:06] <bigbrovar> charlie-tca: https://launchpad.net/~alexx2000/+archive/xfce
[18:06] <charlie-tca> It's unofficial ppa.
[18:06] <charlie-tca> apparently, alexx2000 really wanted to use xfce4.8 in 10.04
[18:06] <bigbrovar> charlie-tca: yeah it is
[18:07] <bigbrovar> doubt there would be official packages anytime soon
[18:07] <bigbrovar> guess so


[02:58] <lostson> well did everyone get what they wanted for christmas
[03:00] <spikeb> yes.
[03:00] <spikeb> all i could really ask for was a bit of rest and quiet, and that is what i got. :)
[03:02] <lostson> sweet
[03:03] <lostson> we ran all day with the kids to all the family's houses
[03:03] <lostson> im a wee bit beat
[03:04] <spikeb> sounds like a busy day!
[04:00] <mikeputnam> 21:49 -!- omni5cience<EMAIL_ADDRESS>has joined #alphaonelabs
[04:00] <mikeputnam> 21:51 <@mikeputnam> omni5cience: know it all
[04:00] <mikeputnam> 21:51 <@omni5cience> mikeputnam: what now?
[04:00] <mikeputnam> double-ha
[04:01] <spikeb> haha


[01:32] <ScottK> lex79: Around for a moment.  Paste a link and I'll get it eventually.
[01:33] <lex79> http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/394059/pkg-kde-tools_0.4.11ubuntu2.debdiff
[01:33] <lex79> ScottK: ^^
[01:38] <seele> argh.. 4.3 update failed
[04:15] <maco> was there a quassel update today? suddenly things are highlighting in orange instead of pink and join/parts are purple
[04:15] <ScottK> I did one on Friday I think.
[04:16] <nhandler> ScottK: Yeah, Friday you uploaded 0.5.0~git090814-0ubuntu1
[04:19] <maco> hrm this version doesn't wrap long lines properly
[04:20] <maco> they continue a few characters off the right edge of the screen
[04:21] <ScottK> Hmm.
[04:21] <ScottK> Maybe Sput needs a smack.
[04:21] <maco> lik santiago-ve's quit goes "Connection reset by p"
[04:24]  * ScottK hides all those anyway.
[04:35] <maco> ScottK: in the "Chat View" settings, there's "use sender coloring" ... when i check that, there are two rows of color buttons and the top and bottom buttons above/below each other match. do you know why? im unsure if they simply didnt want to come up with a dozen default colors or if those are paired (maybe top row for avail, bottom for away?)
[04:36] <ScottK> I don't.  IIRC that is in the middle of being redesigned and if it's not clear you should talk to Sput about making it more so.
[04:36] <maco> is Sput around?
[04:38] <ScottK> He lives in +0200, so unlikely.
[04:39] <maco> oh
[04:51]  * yuriy just caused some crazy infinite loop in arora
[05:04] <ScottK> lex79: Uploaded.  Thanks.
[06:14] <Sput> maco: I just didn't come up with enough default colors, because I'm really bad at this - suggestions (that go well with oxygen) very welcome.
[06:14] <Sput> I'm partially color blind, so I'm not the best guy to ask when it comes to colors :)
[06:15] <maco> funny, that
[06:15] <maco> my boyfriend is also partially colorblind, yet he's the one always pointing out when i dont match
[06:16] <maco> he can do things like "your headband and shirt dont match. i know because i can see the shade of green on the headband and not the one on the shirt"
[06:17] <maco> but ok thank you. i was going to ask for tooltips if there was something more complicated than "here's a list of colors"
[06:26] <Sput> maco: concerning the wordwrap problem, do you happen to use a different font now than you did before? there's still that upstream bug in Qt where QTextLayout sometimes wraps wrongly with certain fonts
[06:26] <Sput> wondering if it's the same.
[06:26] <Sput> though that usually just is one character, not several
[06:29] <maco> i use Inconsolata 10. its what i used before too. for *some* reason, after an upgrade my font was reset to some proportional font
[06:29] <maco> i set it back to Inconsolata
[06:29] <maco> and actually it looks like text which came in after that font change is wrapped properly
[06:30] <maco> but the text wasnt re-wrapped when i changed font / font size
[06:46] <Sput> maco: so after a client restart, the problem would be gone?
[06:47] <maco> yeah probably
[06:48] <maco> well may depend on quassel v. quasselclient...
[06:48] <maco> dunno what the former would do but since the latter gets all the text after startup, id be surprised if it still tried to follow the old font's wrap rules...
[06:49] <Sput> mmm. nah, I think I probably forget something cached somewhere
[06:49] <Sput> will have a look at that
[06:49] <Sput> the old quassel wouldn't be able to change the font at runtime anyway :)
[06:49] <Sput> (e.g. not re-render old lines at all)
[06:49] <maco> oh
[07:04] <maco> Sput: hey can i make my name not italic?
[07:05] <Sput> yeah, currently by putting something like this in a custom .qss file and choosing it as custom stylesheet:
[07:05] <Sput> ChatLine::sender[sender="self"] {
[07:05] <Sput>  font-style: normal;
[07:05] <Sput> }
[07:05] <maco> oh
[07:05] <Sput> I'm not sure if that stays in the default stylesheet though
[07:06] <Sput> this is still a bit work-in-progress and feedback-gathering :)
[07:08] <maco> hey, how come sometimes quasselclient starts reading 4-digit KB/s from disk?
[07:08] <maco> ive seen my disk start thrashing and iotop blame quasselclient a few times
[09:59] <taavikko> https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/arora/+bug/406503 any thoughts?
[10:20] <jussi01> hrm, does someone feel like confirming a bug for me?
[11:16] <Riddell> taavikko: yes it could be improved
[12:59] <jussi01> ok, if someone cares to test, itd be nice. do "sudo apt-get install pioneers*" this will install all the pioneers stuff. then, start pioneers server, select a config - what comes up is fine, then press start, then try to "launch pioneers client"
[12:59] <jussi01> after that, try adding computer players...
[13:00] <jussi01> please tell me if you can play the game?
[13:52] <ryanakca> Tonio_: Hurray, https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/frescobaldi ;)
[13:53] <Tonio_> ryanakca: hehehe
[13:53] <Tonio_> that was a long run.... I forgot about it :)
[13:55] <ryanakca> Tonio_: When are you moving to this side of the pond?
[13:56] <Tonio_> ryanakca: then pond ? I don't know the word my friend :)
[13:57] <ryanakca> Tonio_: pond == étang ... When are you comming to Quebec?
[14:31] <james_w> process-removals is suggesting that we remove koffice, does anyone have an opinion on that?
[14:46] <ryanakca> Is there any difference between the OEM installer and the standard installer?
[14:46] <ryanakca> And how can I call the OEM from a kde session?
[14:48] <Riddell> the OEM installer is two things, ubiquity in OEM mode then the oem setup tool
[14:49] <ryanakca> Riddell: OK... so if I hit 'Quit' from the OEM installer, I have to way to get back into it apart from rebooting?
[14:49] <Riddell> ryanakca: which one?
[14:50] <ryanakca> Riddell: well, to restatr the OEM installation, so ubiquity in OEM mode. I'm guessing the OEM setup tool is run when the end-user turns on his/her desktop, if not, it too...
[14:50] <Riddell> you can restart ubiquity
[14:50] <Riddell> I don't know if the OEM setup tool has a quit button
[14:51] <Riddell> OEM config I should call it
[14:53] <ryanakca> Riddell: OK, thanks
[15:23] <ryanakca> How can I debug apport when it doesn't do anything after I hit 'Send'?
[15:24] <Riddell> run /usr/share/apport/apport-kde from command line?
[15:35] <ryanakca> Riddell: Nothing happens
[15:36] <ryanakca> Riddell: I'm guessing that all apport does is take the crash file from /var/crash , cut them up into several smaller files and upload them along with the bug report?
[15:50] <Riddell> ryanakca: yes, it should then run a web browser
[15:52] <ryanakca> Riddell: it fails to do so. Might just be plasma-netbook acting up though... *shrug* ... OEM install failed miserably, http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/result/2875/299
[16:05] <rgreening> Aurélien Gâteau and Jonathan Riddell are the Scotto French
[16:05] <rgreening> -
[16:05] <rgreening> connection of KDE awesome. They both like KDE, they both work
[16:05] <rgreening> for Canonical, they both like Karaoke and they just started
[16:05] <rgreening> a Country band.
[16:05] <rgreening> One of the above is not true.
[16:06] <rgreening> I read that and fell off my chair...
[16:07] <Riddell> I have no idea what he was thinking
[16:07]  * maco puts a cowboy hat on Riddell's head
[16:24] <rgreening> :)
[21:11] <ScottK> ryanakca: My experience is that sometimes apport with plasma-netbook starts the browser, sometimes not.   No idea why.
[21:41] <micmord> akonadi-server: Depends: mysql-server-core-5.0 but it is not installable
[21:41] <micmord> mysql upgrade to 5.1
[21:43] <ScottK> micmord: Karmic?
[21:43] <micmord> yes
[21:43] <jussi01> hrm, I asked this earlier, got no response cause channel was dead, so maybe someone has time to check now...
[21:43] <ScottK> In the middle of switching from 5.0 to 5.1 as the supporte mysql.  Please file a bug so we don't forget.
[21:44] <jussi01> on jaunty:
[21:44] <jussi01> [14:59:16] <jussi01> ok, if someone cares to test, itd be nice. do "sudo apt-get install pioneers*" this will install all the pioneers stuff. then, start pioneers server, select a config - what comes up is fine, then press start, then try to "launch pioneers client"
[21:44] <jussi01> [14:59:32] <jussi01> after that, try adding computer players...
[21:44] <jussi01> [15:00:18] <jussi01> please tell me if you can play the game?
[21:48] <micmord> m
[23:42] <ryanakca> ScottK: OK, thanks
[23:48] <Riddell> ~twitter update @simonjgray your fault?  http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2009/aug/07/local-government-open-source-birmingham-website-costs
[23:48] <kubotu> status updated
[23:53] <lex79> Riddell: can you upload ktorrent?