[05:43] <_r00t_> harsh343: ps -ef | grep -i mysql
[05:44] <ActionParsnip> ooph: gnome2 is dead, there is a fork called 'mate'
[05:44] <Aleo> ooph: yes, true, but you asked inside windows
[05:44] <_r00t_> ActionParsnip: yes .... MATE :)
[05:44] <ooph> "dead" as in "can't install it ever again", or "dead" as in "not being developed any more"?
[05:45] <ActionParsnip> ooph: if you install xfce4 you will get a barebones XFCE and you can run your Gnome apps there
[05:45] <harsh343> _r00t_, i run this command not helped
[05:45] <ooph> because honestly? a code freeze 18 months ago would have been preferable to this ridiculous monstrosity of unusability
[05:45] <ActionParsnip> ooph: its not being developed by the gnome team any more
[05:45] <_r00t_> harsh343: sudo service mysql stop && sudo service mysql start
[05:46] <An-iSociaL> still not getting anywhere with iptables, everything still gets blocked, anyone else want to try and explain what flag determines an inbound connection?
[05:46] <ooph> ActionParsnip: i don't care if it's not being developed... there wasn't anything wrong with it to start with. This policy of "change it because it hasn't become drastically different recently" is what's tearing Ubuntu apart, and alienating the users.
[05:46] <ActionParsnip> ooph: Its affecting all gnome based distros, not just ubuntu. Think about it
[05:46] <_r00t_> An-iSociaL: As I mentioned previously please post iptables -L to pastebin
[05:46] <ooph> An-iSociaL: source and destination (-s and -d) should be helpful parameters.
[05:47] <ActionParsnip> ooph: other gnome3 distros have gone for gnome shell, Canonical made unity instead
[05:47] <AndrewIRC> Gnome 2 is alive and well on 10.04
[05:47] <An-iSociaL> its completely useless but here you go
[05:47] <An-iSociaL> http://pastebin.com/6Sd54Zf9
[05:47] <An-iSociaL> the iptables -L output
[05:48] <ooph> AndrewIRC: and what do I do next year, when Unity becomes LTS?
[05:48] <An-iSociaL> as i said there are no rules, because when i try to make one, all traffic dies
[05:48] <AndrewIRC> no one knows if unity will even touch it.
[05:48] <AndrewIRC> but, i doubt it.
[05:48] <AndrewIRC> all the negative feed back theyre getting now
[05:48] <_r00t_> An-iSociaL: :/
[05:48] <ooph> An-iSociaL: give us an example of a rule you want to make?
[05:48] <AndrewIRC> i dont think theyll bother
[05:48] <ActionParsnip> ooph: you can also use gnome-session-fallback and use that as your session, or switch to another DE. Gnome is not the only desktop
[05:49] <_r00t_> brb restarting in E17
[05:49] <ooph> ActionParsnip: it might as well be - none of the others have all the features I have come to expect from my Linux Desktop Experience(tm)
[05:49] <ActionParsnip> ooph: like what?
[05:49] <AndrewIRC> E17 is also a good GUI.
[05:49] <AndrewIRC> it is used on Bodhi, which i hear starts up at like 50mb
[05:49] <AndrewIRC> which is crazy
[05:50] <ooph> System Monitor in the top panel. Having two panels. No dock (it gets in my way). A menu containing all my programs (still can't let go of the start menu).
[05:50] <An-iSociaL> ooph: if source network is 10.1.10.x allow inbound connections, else deny inbound connections unless ports = 80,443
[05:50] <ActionParsnip> ooph: xfce has 2 panels by default or dock, it also has the Apps / System menu stuff
[05:50] <An-iSociaL> basically services other than web are available only to the LAN
[05:51] <harsh343>     output is unknown instance
[05:51] <ooph> An-iSociaL: did you look at the firewall that gets built when you walk through all the steps at http://easyfwgen.morizot.net/gen ?
[05:51] <An-iSociaL> i tried... the script makes as little sense as iptables itself
[05:51] <Geoffrey2> theres probably not much hope of Ubuntu 11.10 doing a proper startup with only a half gig of RAM, is there?
[05:52] <harsh343> Stop unknown instance
[05:52] <harsh343> is the output
[05:52] <ooph> An-iSociaL: try thinking of it as less of a script, and more of a sequence of commands. iptables is a program, and everything that follows it on the same line are parameters.
[05:52] <ActionParsnip> ooph: if you install xfce4-xfapplet-plugin you can run gnome panel applets in the XFCE panel
[05:52] <o0splitpaw0o> !fluxbuntu
[05:52] <ActionParsnip> ooph: which is everything you just listed
[05:52] <ooph> ActionParsnip: so you're saying I should run Xubuntu, then?
[05:53] <ActionParsnip> ooph: no, you just need to install xfce4  no need to duplicate functionality
[05:53] <o0splitpaw0o> !fluxbuntu |Geoffrey2
[05:53] <harsh343> Hello you there
[05:53] <An-iSociaL> i understand
[05:53] <_r00t_> ewww e17 just reminded me of the last millennium
[05:54] <An-iSociaL> but blocking inbound http
[05:54] <SianaGearz> helloes. did pulseaudio break for someone else today???
[05:54] <An-iSociaL> also blocks responses
[05:54] <An-iSociaL> not just connections
[05:54] <Geoffrey2> I'm not looking for a derivitive, I'm simply asking, if the only functioning laptop I have only has a half gig of RAM, will my Ubuntu have even half of prayer of booting so I can more easily salvage files off of it?
[05:54] <ooph> duplicate functionality?
[05:55] <ooph> i don't understand what you mean by that. Ubuntu 11.10 is not functional.
[05:55] <ooph> If XFCE will fix it, then shouldn't I just install Xubuntu?
[05:55] <ActionParsnip> ooph: a little research would have show you all the stuff I just told you. But instead you plow effort into badmouthing the DE. Its all very changable and all the gnome apps you run will run in all the other desktops
[05:55] <harsh343> how can i solve this error in mysql
[05:55] <Geoffrey2> my main laptop died, this is just a spare that I happened to have, it's only got 512 MB of RAM.....
[05:55] <harsh343> ERROR 2002 (HY000): Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' (2)
[05:55] <An-iSociaL> mysql = ubuntu?
[05:56] <AndrewIRC> I am growing bored of Ubuntu, i may switch to centos
[05:56] <SianaGearz> Geoffrey2: half a gig of ram should be plenty. maybe not plenty enough to be buttersmoothly enjoyable, but plenty.
[05:56] <harsh343> An-iSociaL, means i m geting problem in mysql on ubuntu
[05:56] <An-iSociaL> ask mysql
[05:56] <SianaGearz> Geoffrey2: for ANY even so heavyweight desktop.
[05:56] <_r00t_> Geoffrey2: the problem is not booting or the OS .... the problem will be running apps. Browsers these days consume memory like it's free air
[05:56] <harsh343> Hello this is the proble of ubuntu
[05:56] <harsh343> not sql
[05:56] <An-iSociaL> for that matter i should be asking netfilter
[05:56] <An-iSociaL> not ubuntu
[05:57] <An-iSociaL> so
[05:57] <An-iSociaL> bye
[05:57] <FloodBot1> An-iSociaL: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:57] <ooph> harsh343: try http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-software-2/cant-connect-to-local-mysql-server-through-socket-var-lib-mysql-mysql-sock-281557/
[05:58] <_r00t_> Geoffrey2: why not turn the machine in to a thin client
[05:59] <ooph> Geoffrey2: worst case scenario, use the "alternative install" cd - it installs without loading all the LiveCD stuff, making it less likely to fail due to out-of-memory issues.
[05:59] <SianaGearz> so hum, anyone willing to help me fight through a problem with pulseaudio which appeared due to ubuntu update today?
[05:59] <ooph> Ubuntu will cheerfully run in ~300MB of RAM, it just may not install so well.
[06:00] <harsh343> how can i remove all mysql and install again i want to force myqsl to remove each and everything and reinstall a fresh sql
[06:00] <o0splitpaw0o> !fluxbuntu |ooph
[06:00] <Geoffrey2> I had a laptop, I manged to fry it...oops...pulled the hard drive, put in this old laptop, simply want HD access long enough to grab some files so I can transfer them to the desktop computer
[06:00] <ooph> o0splitpaw0o: yeah, that was relevant.
[06:01] <Rrandy> ooph: have a look at AWN.  I run it on gnome, I use one dock as a system tray, another for launchers on my right monitor, and another for launchers - including the menu, and system monitor, on my left monitor.
[06:01] <ooph> Geoffrey2: puppy linux is designed for older hardware, and will probably do what you want.
[06:02] <ooph> from the LiveCD, I mean
[06:02] <okee> I am going to sleep.  I set aside a 14gb partition for Ubuntu.  I don't know why Ubuntu isn't showing up in the start menu.   Looks like I have to reinstall.  I didn't get any error messages.  This is strange.
[06:02] <o0splitpaw0o> ooph: take less than 120 mb at most. keep you freed up
[06:02] <AndrewIRC> puppylinux, great OS, the major bad thing about it? Runs as root.
[06:02] <SianaGearz> puppy linux was designed for older hardware 10 years ago... wonder how old old hardware now is...\
[06:02] <ooph> AndrewIRC: That isn't relevant to Geoffrey2's intent to use it to move some files to a different system...
[06:02] <AndrewIRC> oh
[06:03] <ooph> SianaGearz: try installing Win95 on a quad-core with 8GB of RAM... just be prepared to laugh when the whole install is over inside of 3 minutes.
[06:03] <Notimik> anyone here how knows how to get unity to save volume level between reboots?
[06:04] <uofm49426> hey how can i share a hd format ntfs well in ubuntu dns server
[06:04] <uofm49426> xbmc not ready for 11.10 yet or i would use it
[06:04] <ooph> Notimik: if you're referring to the value displayed by the "Volume Control" in the top-right corner, then it's supposed to do that by default.
[06:05] <Notimik> ooph, oki, every time I reboot it resets to max level which is kind of annoying
[06:05] <SianaGearz> Geoffrey2: for purposes such as yours i use PartedMagic usually...
[06:05] <ooph> uofm49426: http://www.lmgtfy.com/search?q=samba+ntfs+fstab
[06:06] <ooph> SianaGearz: for similar purposes, i use gparted from the ubuntu LiveCD
[06:06] <ooph> Notimik: have you installed, or are you booting from CD?
[06:06] <Notimik> ooph, upgraded fron 11.4
[06:07] <SianaGearz> ooph: except last time i tried to do any data recovery with kubuntu live cd, the live distro catastrophically.
[06:07] <SianaGearz> *failed
[06:07] <Notimik> ooph, so it is installed yes
[06:07] <ooph> Siana: try a lighter-weight distro, or one designed for recovery purposes. I've heard good things about Trinity.
[06:08] <ooph> Notimik: I'm not sure, then. The only thing I could think of offhand was that you were booting a non-persistent system, somehow. Is this 11.10?
[06:09] <reyazbot> heyy
[06:09] <Rrandy> SianaGearz: I've used Trinity - it's very good.
[06:09] <Notimik> ooph, yes it is 11.10 and my hd seems persistent to mee :)
[06:09] <SianaGearz> ooph: it folded on trivial operations - don't remember what it was, some permission jumble up on the livecd filesystem not allowing it to mount the disk. in fact the live environment would crash or halt a few seconds into attempting to do anything other than stare at it :)
[06:10] <eristikophiles> hey just to check but when installing grub2 does it go in /dev/sdb (ubuntu drive) or /dev/sdb2 (/boot)?
[06:10]  * _r00t_ is asking #archlinux why they are snobs :D
[06:10] <ooph> SianaGearz: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=11406188 indicates that this is an unknown issue, probably related to the Ubuntu devs congratulating themselves for Unity's success at removing intelligent Ubuntu users. The recommendation appears to be to turn your PC off.
[06:10] <eristikophiles> i'm not sure whether my error here is putting grub2 on sdb in the first place and not sda (windows drive), or whether i should leave some space in /dev/sdb itself prefixed to the partitions
[06:11] <ooph> eristikophiles: you will want to install the boot loader to the boot sector of the drive your system boots from.
[06:11] <eristikophiles> ooph- yeah, the funny thing is, this box used to dual-boot with windows and ubuntu.. on different drives
[06:11] <eristikophiles> the windows install doesn't even see the second drive
[06:12] <eristikophiles> but the ubuntu drive didn't seem to care about the windows drive either
[06:12] <eristikophiles> that ubuntu install was messed up, so i'm reinstalling.. only can't manage to boot at all now, after installing
[06:12] <eristikophiles> but i picked /dev/sdb as where grub goes
[06:12] <eristikophiles> or rather, where the "boot loader" goes according to the installer
[06:12] <ooph> eristikophiles: i would check your BIOS to see which drive your system considers to be primary. If the issue you are having is that your machine is not asking what OS to boot into, and simply going straight to Windows, then you want to install grub to your Windows drive.
[06:13] <eristikophiles> no, it doesn't go to windows either now
[06:13] <eristikophiles> it just fails to boot, goes into grub rescue mode
[06:13] <ooph> If Windows gets upset about that, you can boot from a Windows disk and use FDISK /FIXMBR to fix it.
[06:13] <lauratika> cant see cryptkeeper in unity ubuntu 11.10, did some one had any luck making it work?
[06:13] <ooph> hmm
[06:13] <ooph> if you're not getting it to boot at all, then you may need to double-check to see if your grub menu isn't getting its wires crossed.
[06:14] <eristikophiles> yeah that's what i thought might be it. i found a reference saying to be sure and change the linux line to add a / in front of the kernel name, because /boot and / are mounted as different partitions
[06:14] <eristikophiles> i feel like this may be related
[06:14] <ooph> i recommend a google search for "broken grub" and fixing your menu - then reinstall the bootloader to the correct disk.
[06:15] <pangolin> !grub
[06:15] <eristikophiles> i still haven't managed to mess with grub2 files directly.. kinda hard to find a decent doc online, each one assumes slightly different systems
[06:15] <ooph> pangolin and ubottu: thanks.
[06:15] <eristikophiles> yeah except i lost windows after installing ubuntu, so :)
[06:15] <ooph> ouch.
[06:15] <ooph> are you wanting to dual-boot?
[06:16] <eristikophiles> yeah
[06:17] <ooph> is windows actually gone, or it's just not booting any more?
[06:17] <eristikophiles> hm. it occurs to me: is there any decent way to r/w to an ext4 partition from windows? (it doesn't even *see* the ubuntu drive in windows!)
[06:17] <eristikophiles> ..no, it can't be messed up since i did nothing to that drive in the installer
[06:17] <eristikophiles> unless the installer lied or something :)
[06:18] <NiDoubleKi> Hi all
[06:18] <ooph> eristikophiles: there is a way to see ext* partitions in windows, but I don't trust Windows not to corrupt *itself*, nevermind a separate OS, so I never bothered to use that driver. besides, your issue appears to be with the boot sector, not with the data on the drive
[06:19] <harsh343> how can i remove mysql from my ubuntu
[06:19] <harsh343> ?
[06:19] <eristikophiles> no, i was just wondering about that. it's interesting for other reasons.
[06:19] <ooph> harsh343: apt-get uninstall mysql ?
[06:19] <eristikophiles> harsh343- run a package manager
[06:19] <ooph> eristikophiles: back to my original line of questioning: does windows boot, or no?
[06:19] <eristikophiles> synaptic, or whatever you have installed
[06:20] <eristikophiles> no, it doesn't
[06:20] <eristikophiles> only grub rescue
[06:20] <ooph> ok, so your system is completely non-functional at the moment.
[06:20] <ooph> correct?
[06:20] <eristikophiles> so i mean, it seems to have successfully done *something* in the install process lol
[06:20] <eristikophiles> yeah
[06:20] <eristikophiles> i'm assuming that the windows drive is the same, maybe the MBR messed up at most
[06:20] <harsh343> ooph, E: Invalid operation uninstall
[06:20] <eristikophiles> try remove
[06:21] <eristikophiles> also sudo it
[06:21] <ooph> yeah, i may be too tired to be helpful any more.
[06:21] <harsh343> eristikophiles, E: Unable to locate package mysql
[06:21] <eristikophiles> (this is why people asking like "how do i uninstall x" i tell, use synaptic.
[06:21] <eristikophiles> it's gui. easier
[06:21] <SianaGearz> ooph: the issue was perhaps kde specific and i don't have a full solution yet, but at least i can see what has been causing the symptoms.
[06:22] <eristikophiles> ok in that case the package name is like mysql##.##.## or something
[06:22] <ooph> now that i think of it, where is the ubuntu software center in the unity interface?
[06:22] <eristikophiles> just run a gui package manager instead :)
[06:22] <eristikophiles> harsh343- you have synaptic?
[06:22] <harsh343> what is this eristikophiles
[06:22] <eristikophiles> hm. i'm assuming your gui works, but it's ubuntu.. so it probably does
[06:22] <harsh343> ??
[06:22] <eristikophiles> it's a program that manages your installed programs
[06:22] <eristikophiles> a gui wrapper for apt-get (the cli app)
[06:22] <ooph> harsh343: gksudo synaptic
[06:23] <harsh343> boot manager ????
[06:23] <llutz_> eristikophiles: a frontend to apt, not apt-get (which also is just a frontend to apt)
[06:23] <eristikophiles> harsh343- ?? no, i'm the one having boot manager issues :)
[06:23] <eristikophiles> llutz_- ah, right. :)
[06:24] <harsh343> ooph, what next ?
[06:24] <ooph> eristikophiles: to make sure i have your configuration properly in my mind: you have 2 physical disks; one is windows, the other is (attempting to be) Ubuntu. yes?
[06:24] <eristikophiles> SianaGearz- wait, you had an issue with the kubuntu livecd crashing during drive mounts?
[06:24] <ooph> harsh: search for "mysql"
[06:24] <eristikophiles> ..was it the CD or the DVD?
[06:25] <harsh343> ooph, i m very much tired now from ubuntu now i think to go with windows again
[06:25] <eristikophiles> ooph- yeah
[06:25] <Geoffrey2> can someone tell me if there's a command line option to force Ubuntu to redect the appropriate screen resolution?
[06:25] <harsh343> ERROR 2002 (HY000): Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' (2)
[06:25] <harsh343> I want to remove but not able to remove what the hell is this
[06:25] <ooph> if you didn't change anything in the BIOS, then you would want to install Ubuntu on the blank disk, then make sure grub gets put in the bootsector of the first disk - that's the one your system should be trying to boot from.
[06:26] <eristikophiles> harsh343- are you sure that nothing depends on mysql?
[06:26] <eristikophiles> that none of your other programs are using it?
[06:26] <harsh343> apache2 of php myadmin may use i think so
[06:26] <harsh343> or*
[06:26] <eristikophiles> uh, yeah
[06:26] <eristikophiles> it does
[06:26] <najamsa> harsh343: I think mysql.conf my default tries connecting to this socket. This can be overriden from cmdline or updating mysql.conf
[06:26] <eristikophiles> if you're running an XAMP stack, then it uses mysql most likely
[06:26] <ooph> harsh: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-server-73/cant-connect-to-local-mysql-server-through-socket-var-run-mysqld-mysqld-sock-753632/
[06:26] <eristikophiles> XAMMP does
[06:27] <ooph> you're not running mysql, that's why it can't talk to it.
[06:27] <najamsa> its easy. I have done it, but sometime back...
[06:27] <eristikophiles> ooph- ok, i guess i'll go mess with BIOS a bit
[06:27] <eristikophiles> if that doesn't help back to messing with grub2
[06:28] <urlin2u> eristikophiles, you   ubuntu now?
[06:28] <urlin2u> in*
[06:28] <eristikophiles> this is another box
[06:28] <urlin2u> eristikophiles, you can boot ubuntu right?
[06:28] <eristikophiles> i was just using the liveDVD on that one
[06:28] <eristikophiles> no
[06:28] <SianaGearz> eristikophiles: yes, i have had ubuntu livecd unable to mount anything because it claimed the directories in the root filesystem weren't writeable. to crash it, a little bit more hand-pokery was needed, don't remember what. nothing evil anyway.
[06:29] <urlin2u> eristikophiles, reloading grub to the mbr is easy 2 commands you night use the bootscript to see if everything is in order though.
[06:29] <Geoffrey2> it's booted, but the screen is only going about 60% across the monitor, I'm getting two copies of the desktop, one on top of the other, and the flicker is killing my eyes....any way to make Ubuntu redetect the correct monitor and video settings for this thing?
[06:29] <urlin2u> might*
[06:29] <SianaGearz> eristikophiles: ehr, Kubuntu, not ubuntu, and 11.10 specifically
[06:30] <ooph> Geoffrey2: try adding "nomodeset" to the boot line.
[06:30] <SianaGearz> eristikophiles: and oh it was a live-cd written to USB stick with unetbootin, so maybe it did something differently from what it does when booting from a CD (though that'd be silly)
[06:30] <eristikophiles> oh, nm SianaGearz .. i was having a similar issue with the kubuntu 11.10 liveCD but it had to do with the partition editor in the installer
[06:31] <eristikophiles> (kept crashing during any drive-related edits)
[06:31] <eristikophiles> the liveDVD didn't
[06:31] <SianaGearz> eristikophiles: ah yes exactly, parted crashed :)
[06:31] <eristikophiles> yeah, it sounded similar. i just d/led the DVD instead, that seemed to work
[06:32] <eristikophiles> it might be a bug in the disk image they have
[06:32] <SianaGearz> eristikophiles: well my decision over that was to ditch kubuntu and try Fedora for a change :)
[06:32] <SianaGearz> though only on one of my computers.
[06:34] <SianaGearz> eristikophiles: and oh there was another livecd bug, maybe related, unable to write in home directory. that'd crash dolphin in minutes.
[06:35] <Auckla> So to keep syslog from displaying to a terminal. Is that controlled via syslog.conf?
[06:35] <Auckla> Err echo'n. Mess me up while I"m working.
[06:37] <eristikophiles> SianaGearz- i didn't try that myself.. but ok
[06:40] <eristikophiles> well, BIOS sees both drives. it's actually kinda funny, since they're the same model, they have the same identifier number lol
[06:40] <eristikophiles> ooph- there doesn't seem to be any BIOS issues then i guess
[06:41] <eristikophiles> except for how ridiculously short a span of time you can press F2 on this box for at the start of boot (took me a few tries)
[06:42] <Auckla> eristikophiles: This rig is the same way.
[06:44] <edison__> ....
[06:45] <eristikophiles> huh, just found another issue i might be having
[06:45] <eristikophiles> perhaps it's the UUIDs that's broken
[06:45] <eristikophiles> one forum post says that the UUIDs can change causing this issue, maybe that's what it is
[06:45] <eristikophiles> ;p so many ways it can break! lol
[06:46] <ooph> eristikophiles: i ran into that with 9.10 - not sure what caused it, but it did break things. the fix was to edit fstab to either reflect the new UUID or to not use UUIDs
[06:47] <Auckla> Hmmm, there is one command that will make my theme for joomla work. And I don't remember what it is anymore. And the IRC support sucks for them. :&*(
[06:47] <eristikophiles> yeah, apparently UUIDs aren't stable with liveCDs? or something? not sure how they'd change. i use a UUID in my fstab on this box for a specific external usb hd
[06:47] <llutz_> eristikophiles: UUIDs only change when you create a new instance of a filesystem
[06:48] <eristikophiles> what do you mean by 'instance' here?
[06:48] <ooph> llutz_: there is/was a bug that caused them to change between installation and first boot of Ubuntu
[06:48] <llutz_> eristikophiles: "reformat"
[06:48] <eristikophiles> oh i see
[06:48] <eristikophiles> hm
[06:48] <eristikophiles> i haven't reformatted that drive in a bit though. i repartitioned it in the liveCD with a partition editor, then installed over those same partitions in the installer with no edits (just typed in mount points)
[06:53] <harsh343> I got an error like this what i can do ? harsh@harsh-3000:~$ mysql -u root -p
[06:53] <harsh343> Enter password:
[06:53] <harsh343> ERROR 2002 (HY000): Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' (2)
[06:54] <DuncanPhillips> harsh343: trying doing sudo
[06:54] <najamsa> harsh343: Can you check your process list and confirm if mysql is unning ?
[06:54] <DuncanPhillips>                   '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' (2)
[06:54] <DuncanPhillips> harsh343: do /etc/init.d/mysql status
[06:55] <ooph> harsh: error 2 is "file not found". http://anthologyoi.com/computers/cant-connect-to-local-mysql-server-through-socketerror.html may have some usefulness to you.
[06:55] <DuncanPhillips> and tell us what it says
[06:55] <ooph> also, why are you wanting to run mysql as root?
[06:55] <eristikophiles> alright, gonna try this without UUIDs in fstab
[06:56] <eristikophiles> nope, same error
[06:56] <eristikophiles> strangely enough it still displays the UUID there
[06:56] <eristikophiles> ;p
[06:56] <eristikophiles> time to mess with grub files
[06:56] <eristikophiles> reboot
[06:56] <eristikophiles> oops wrong kb lol
[06:57] <ksork> I deeply apologize if I'm speaking out of line. I'm a complete newbie and am looking for help that I can't find anywhere online. If this is not the place to come, please let me know. Thank you.
[06:58] <ooph> ksork: please ask your question, so that we may be off assistance :)
[06:58] <jakes> guyes anyone see me??
[06:58] <harsh343> now error 13
[06:58] <ooph> jakes: no, you're invisible.
[06:58] <jakes> how to install .exe file in ubuntu ???
[06:59] <soidexe> Hi I upgraded my 11.04 to 11.10 and my gnome 2.32 desktop doesn't show System menu and I can't right click on panels also. What would you do to fix that? I can't use unity...
[06:59] <najamsa> harsh343: can you do netstat -a | grep mysql
[06:59] <ooph> jakes: apt-get install wine
[06:59] <FishFace> 11.04. Top panel is blank. Cannot add to it. Right click does nothing. What did I miss?
[06:59] <jakes> i have wine
[06:59] <dc5ala> soidexe, the system menu is under application -> other i think, to get context menu there hold alt
[07:00] <ksork> I'm following the instructions at http://www.ubuntu.com/download/ubuntu/download to create a bootable USB stick on a Mac. When step 9 finishes, I get a message saying that my USB stick is "not readable by this computer." Any help?
[07:00] <harsh343> najamsa, my problem is not solve
[07:00] <ooph> soidexe: the apparently official answer is "reinstall 10.04 (LTS) and use that until it becomes unsupported; at that point, either choose a new distro, or sit and cry because Canonical has decided we're not allowed to choose what we do with our own machines.
[07:01] <najamsa> harsh343: can you run this and copy the o/p here: netstat -a | grep mysql
[07:01] <FishFace> soidexe: Hope you get it fixed. My right click on the panel also does nothing
[07:01] <pnorman> ksork: Reading the instructions it looks like that may be expected - did you try booting from it?
[07:01] <soidexe> ooph, I'll rather install debian in that case...
[07:01] <ooph> soidexe: moving to a different distro has "solved" that issue for a large number of users.
[07:02] <ksork> Yes. It the USB stick is not recognized as bootable.
[07:02] <harsh343> najamsa, no any output
[07:02] <soidexe> FishFace, yeah, it works. but I can't get how to enable system menu
[07:02] <harsh343> for this command
[07:02] <ooph> harsh343: that indicates that mysql is not running. did you install the server, or just the client?
[07:03] <FishFace> soidexe: The only useful thing I can find is the top right where you go to shut down. The gear. System Settings. Even that is minimal.
[07:03] <ooph> harsh343: sudo /etc/init.d/mysql start
[07:03] <jakes> when i am install with wine error will be generated how can i install .exe.with wine???
[07:03] <harsh343> sudo apt-get install mysql-server ooph i install this
[07:04] <ksork> pnorman: any suggestions?
[07:04] <Abhijit> jakes, mark it as executable and then double click or in terminal do wine file.exe
[07:04] <ooph> jakes: files ending in .exe are windows-specific files. I would suggest you google for "wine <your program's name here>"
[07:04] <pnorman> ksork: did you md5sum the .iso?
[07:04] <ooph> oh, yeah... marking it as executable can help ;)
[07:04] <soidexe> FishFace, is that gnome 2.32 settings or unity?
[07:04] <harsh343> harsh@harsh-3000:~$ sudo /etc/init.d/mysql start
[07:04] <harsh343> Rather than invoking init scripts through /etc/init.d, use the service(8)
[07:04] <harsh343> utility, e.g. service mysql start
[07:04] <harsh343> Since the script you are attempting to invoke has been converted to an
[07:04] <harsh343> Upstart job, you may also use the start(8) utility, e.g. start mysql
[07:04] <ksork> pnorman: i'm sorry, but i don't know what that means. again, i'm a complete newbie with this stuff.
[07:04] <harsh343> start: Job failed to start
[07:04] <FloodBot1> harsh343: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:05] <ooph> harsh343: try "sudo service mysql start
[07:05] <ooph> "
[07:05] <harsh343> start: Job failed to start output
[07:05] <ndrwc> Can anyone help me solve a bug with grub installing on RAID?
[07:06] <pnorman> ksork: do md5sum ubuntu-11.10-desktop-i386.iso (in a terminal window in the directory you downloaded the image)
[07:07] <Flynsarmy> If I added my username to www-data group and rebooted, why do I still get a permission denied when attempting to modify files belonging to www-data?
[07:07] <NiDoubleKi> hi all
[07:07] <llutz_> Flynsarmy: the need to belong to group www-data and have to be group-writable
[07:07] <harsh343> ooph, bro i m very much tired now from ubuntu can u plz remove my all mysql and install again
[07:08] <FishFace> soidexe: Gnome desktop 2.32.1
[07:08] <pnorman> ksork: The md5sums for the different releases are at http://releases.ubuntu.com/oneiric/MD5SUMS. I don't expect it is corrupt, but it's worth checking before trying to debug the problem
[07:08] <ooph> harsh343: sudo apt-get remove mysql*
[07:08] <Flynsarmy> llutz_: aha, currently not group writable. thanks
[07:08] <ooph> harsh343: sudo apt-get purge mysql*
[07:08] <harsh343> output is ;- E: Unable to locate package mysql
[07:09] <eristikophiles> harsh343- i think your best bet is to use a gui package manager
[07:09] <ksork> pnorman: again, i apologize, but i'm not even familiar with the terminal, so i'm not sure what you're asking me to do. sorry... i was relying on the step-by-step instructions on the ubuntu website, which were working until step 9 finished
[07:09] <eristikophiles> if you're not comfortable with the command line, just go gui
[07:09] <harsh343> E: Unable to locate package mysql
[07:09] <eristikophiles> that's why we're on ubuntu and not like, freebsd. we can do that :)
[07:09] <harsh343> I am not able to remove and all
[07:09] <pnorman> ksork: Is doing a CD an option?
[07:09] <ooph> harsh343: did you add the * at the end? it's used as a wild-card, in this case.
[07:09] <harsh343> no
[07:10] <ooph> try those commands again, but this time end them with mysql*\
[07:10] <ooph> gah
[07:10] <ksork> pnorman: i don't have any with me, but if i can't figure out how to solve this problem, i guess i'll have to go buy some
[07:10] <ooph> mysql*
[07:11] <ooph> ksork: do you have access to a windows machine? i've found the USB storage device option to work better when creating your boot device in windows.
[07:11] <ksork> ooph: yes, i do.
[07:11] <ooph> ksork: try following the instructions for making a bootable usb drive via windows, see if it helps
[07:12] <ksork> ooph: will do. thanks!
[07:12] <harsh343> ooph, what next ? i run this command
[07:12] <ooph> harsh343: you asked how to remove all of mysql. that should have done the trick.
[07:13] <ooph> to put it back, "sudo apt-get install mysql-server"
[07:13] <ooph> follow the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/8.04/serverguide/C/mysql.html
[07:14] <ooph> they're a bit out of date, being for 8.04, but they shouldn't be inaccurate.
[07:15] <ooph> and i suspect you installed the client, but not the server, in the first place. the error messages you were receiving indicated that you were trying to access a service that didn't exist.
[07:15] <maxus> hi people, i want to probe LXDE but question is...can I switch anytime between gnome, kde and LXDE with no problems?
[07:15] <ooph> ... which i told you an hour ago ;)
[07:16] <tapout> is there an easy way to get oneric to allow for ubuntu classic?  I hate the new unity
[07:16] <ooph> maxus: in theory, yes. you should be able to select your preferred desktop environment at the login screen
[07:16] <zjo> I'm new user to ubuntu running it on virtual box. I'm trying to install a piece of software. I downloaded the .gz file from the website, put it in a folder, then from terminal, I cd'd to that folder I saved the file in, gunzip'd it, then I type 'make' and I get: Fatal error X11/Xlib.h no such file found
[07:16] <harsh343> ooph, thanks bro
[07:16] <ooph> tapout: the official response is "run 10.04 LTS and select a new distro before the LTS runs out"
[07:16] <harsh343> now works gr8
[07:17] <eristikophiles> bah. i'm getting sick of having to reboot into liveDVD all the time
[07:17] <ActionParsnip> tapout: install gnome-session-fallback and select it at login, may help
[07:17] <ActionParsnip> zjo: what filename did you download?
[07:17] <eristikophiles> smoke break
[07:17] <zjo> ActionParsnip: http://www.math.pitt.edu/~bard/xpp/download.html
[07:18] <zjo> clicked the first link
[07:18] <zjo> I'm just following directions they have written for Linux installation.
[07:18] <soidexe> FishFace, no, it's not. I used 2.32 in 10.10 a long time but I had system menu there
[07:18] <soidexe> FishFace, 10.10 uses 2.32
[07:18] <ActionParsnip> !compile | zjo
[07:19] <FishFace> soidexe: This is maddening. But I am trying something as a last effort.
[07:19] <ooph> zjo: try pulling the ubuntu tarball from http://www.math.pitt.edu/~bard/bardware/binary/latest/
[07:20] <wildc4rd> I have noticed this PC slowing down a little lately, though I did blame Gnome3, is there any benefit to a clean reinstall, as this box has just been upgraded every release since Dapper Drake
[07:20] <soidexe> what system do you use?
[07:20] <soidexe> FishFace, what system do you use?
[07:20] <ooph> wildc4rd: not really. linux systems don't seem to acquire cruft in the same way that windows systems do. if it's your browsing that is slowing down, you might try emptying your cache files
[07:21] <zjo> ooph: How would I install that?
[07:21] <zjo> I'm a first time user. Installing stuff on linux is a damn pain. :(
[07:21] <ooph> zjo: follow the same instructions, but use http://www.math.pitt.edu/~bard/bardware/binary/latest/xppaut6.11-ubuntu.tgz as your .tgz file instead of the one you used the first time
[07:22] <FishFace> soidexe: Its 11.04 64 bit with a old vid card
[07:22] <maxus> well, thanx 4 response, but, what about apps installed, it can all works in LXDE ? or I need to install Apps 4 LXDE ?
[07:22] <ooph> and i'm currently on a windows box, so i don't know if xpp has an entry in the software center... but if it did, i would use that instead.
[07:22] <soidexe> FishFace, and 2.32.x gnome?
[07:24] <FishFace> soidexe: Well, that is what it says when I go to gnome-about. But I have tried booting two different options. 2D is what I have now. So, who knows?
[07:24] <ooph> FishFace: log out. on the bottom of the login screen (where you select your username and enter your password), there is an option to select your desktop. select "Ubuntu Classic" there, see if that helps. Also, do NOT upgrade to 11.10 if that fixes you.
[07:24] <ooph> "Ubuntu Classic" is not an option in 11.10 :P
[07:24] <FishFace> ooph: I'll give that a try. I looked for the classic and didnt see it. Might have missed it. Will try now. Ty again.
[07:26] <tdn> How do I set up the ubuntu iso to be served through dhcp/tftp so that clients can do a network boot of the iso and install via network?
[07:26] <ooph> tdn: google "LTSP"
[07:27] <ooph> or "BOOTP"
[07:28] <ooph> oooh...
[07:28] <ooph> tdn: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/LocalNet
[07:28] <tdn> ooph, thanks.
[07:29] <ooph> LTSP + multi-head = 16 simultaneous users with only 5 PCs :D
[07:29] <ooph> ... and only one HDD
[07:29] <ooph> heh
[07:30] <FishFace> ooph: The only options for the login screen are Ubuntu, Ubuntu 2D and User Defined.
[07:31] <ooph> FishFace: hmm. you sure you haven't upgraded to 11.10?
[07:31] <FishFace> Hrmmmmmm
[07:31] <FishFace> Ya know what? Its been a while. I did :(
[07:32] <FishFace> So now  I am beat I guess. No bottom panel. And the top one does nothing.
[07:32] <ooph> gnome-fallback may be helpful... but the best thing I have found so far is to install 10.04 so i have a usable system while I decide which distro to install from here.
[07:33] <ooph> centos6 still uses gnome2
[07:33] <ooph> rock-solid, but it's rpm-based instead of deb-based
[07:34] <FishFace> I dred changing because of the dual boot with Win and taking a chance of creating another problem
[07:35] <ndrwc> Can anyone help me getting grub installed with either RAID or LVM?
[07:36] <ooph> FishFace: if you're currently dual-booting, then you shouldn't have any issues caused by dual-booting. if you have access to another hard drive, you might be able to instruct the BIOS which drive is the "primary" or "first" drive, and thus side-step the issue completely.
[07:37] <FishFace> ooph: When in a more brave mood I will give it a shot.
[07:37] <ooph> for instance, I have a machine that has windows on a RAID1 array, and Ubuntu didn't want to interact with it properly... so I installed another drive, and installed ubuntu to that one. admittedly, to switch back and forth i have to go in and change a BIOS setting, but it's worth it to not harf my windows install.
[07:38] <ksork> ooph: I created a bootable USB stick using a Windows machine and following the instructions on the Ubuntu website. However, by doing this, didn't I create a bootable USB stick that works with Windows, not Mac OS X?
[07:38] <eristikophiles> ooph- btw, i don't think i can do that (what you just said about BIOS) to my drives. they have the same identifier in BIOS, both are SATA. no jumpers, both apparently tied to the same booter
[07:39] <ooph> ksork: if you followed the instructions, you should have created a bootable device that works with UBUNTU. /grin
[07:39] <eristikophiles> ooph- does it matter if your hardware raid is turned off / not being used?
[07:39] <eristikophiles> this thing has built-in raid but it isn't being used
[07:39] <eristikophiles> seriously though, the prior ubuntu install was able to boot fine. ;p
[07:39] <eristikophiles> even if it didn't know what to do once it got there
[07:39] <bekks> ooph: Do you even have a real hardware raid controller or just some sort of fakeraid controller requiring windows drivers?
[07:39] <ksork> ooph: I created the bootable USB using the instructions for Windows. Was that correct to do?
[07:40] <ooph> eristikophiles: check serial numbers on the drives, that may give you an idea which is which (i'm assuming you have a "matched pair" of drives, there)
[07:40] <ooph> ksork: yes, if you followed the instructions, you should now have a USB stick that will boot Ubuntu.
[07:40] <eristikophiles> yeah i do
[07:41] <ksork> ooph: My Mac doesn't recognize it as a bootable disk.
[07:41] <eristikophiles> sadly, serials appear the same to the BIOS lol
[07:41] <eristikophiles> like i said, same identifier
[07:41] <ooph> bekks: it's a "real" raid controllwer, although it's integrated to my Gigabyte motherboard.
[07:41] <eristikophiles> ..i could switch by just pressing a key and assuming it worked though
[07:41] <eristikophiles> just have to be careful
[07:41] <bekks> ooph: So whoch mainboard is it exactly?
[07:41] <ooph> eristikophiles: better to remove the windows drive while installing linux
[07:41] <ooph> safer, anyway
[07:41] <ooph> bekks: sec, checking...
[07:41] <eristikophiles> that just sounds nuts
[07:42] <eristikophiles> i tried adjusting a setting in the 'grub' file
[07:42] <ooph> oops... correction: ASUS motherboard. M4A78LT-MLE
[07:43] <ooph> eristikophiles: if you want to make sure not to harsh your windows, is it more nuts to "make a change and hope", or to "pull a cable and know for sure that you won't be killing windows"?
[07:44] <ooph> bekks: did you get the designation?
[07:44] <ooph> bekks: and why did you want the info in the first place?
[07:44] <eristikophiles> i suppose that's true
[07:44] <eristikophiles> it's just kind of hard to get at the box
[07:44] <ksork> ooph: I appreciate your attempts to help me. I guess I'll try looking elsewhere online. If I can't find help (which I haven't been able to), I might just have to try burning a CD.
[07:44] <bekks> ooph: To verify wether it has a hardware raif controller or not.
[07:44] <eristikophiles> things in here are kind of hard to move around
[07:45] <ooph> yeah, there's a reason I buy a couple dozen thumbscrews for each machine I build :)
[07:45] <paranoid_ndroid> hi, where can I find help with gettext?
[07:45] <ooph> bekks: it has its own BIOS, which I used to create the array before this box ever saw an OS.
[07:45] <eristikophiles> i can open the case easily, but i would need to move the box a couple feet. that requires stretching several cables
[07:46] <bekks> And thats a very cheapo mainboard, it has no hardware raid controller. thats just a software raid controller.
[07:46] <pnorman> I have that motherboard (or one in the same line). It's fakeraid
[07:46] <ooph> the RAID controller is OS-agnostic. don't go getting all uber-geek high-and-mighty on me.
[07:47] <bekks> since you need windows drivers for it - thats a fakeraid controller.
[07:47] <pnorman> ooph: It requires special drivers to use. I know - I have it
[07:48] <ooph> hmm. now you're making me want to boot a few different LiveCDs to see if they can interact with it.
[07:48] <ooph> when i bought it, i was told the raid controller didn't care what OS was used.
[07:49] <maestrojed> I think I have a graphics card that is nice enough to require specific drivers. It is a EVGA GeForce 450GTS. When I run "Hardware Drivers" is says "no proprietary drivers are in use on this system. I download the drivers but its a .run file. I don't know what to do
[07:49] <bekks> ooph: Someone told you a lie then.
[07:49] <ooph> bekks: it happens. was there a point you were trying to make, or are you just being ad hominem for no good reason?
[07:49] <bloopletech> I'm trying to upgrade from natty to oneiric, I'm doing sudo do-release-upgrade but it's giving me the "An unresolvable problem occurred while calculating the upgrade: E:Error, pkgProblemResolver::Resolve generated breaks," error. when I grep the apt log for broken, there's no results
[07:49] <zjo> I'm getting sys/types.h: no such file or directory found after typing 'make' when trying to install www.math.pitt.edu/~bard/bardware/xppaut_latest.tar.gz. Any ideas?
[07:50] <ActionParsnip> maestrojed: run: sudo apt-get install nvidia-current
[07:50] <bekks> ooph: I am trying to make the point that you do not have a hardware raid controller.
[07:50] <bloopletech> zjo: do you have gcc etc. installed?
[07:50] <zjo> gcc? not sure.
[07:50] <bloopletech> sorry you obiously have make it's a silly question... one sec
[07:50] <ActionParsnip> maestrojed: you may want the xorg edgers updates ppa to get the 285 driver
[07:51] <ooph> bekks: and again, I ask what your point in attacking me is. that point is not valid for any discussion that is/was taking place.
[07:51] <bekks> ooph: I am sorry if you take that as an attack or insult.
[07:51] <bloopletech> zjo: try sudo apt-get install build-essential
[07:51] <ooph> was there a point to saying it, or was it just a chance to point your finger at me and chant "neener neener, you got suckered"?
[07:52] <bekks> ooph: Lets just stop this discussion in here, ok?
[07:52] <jtannenbaum> http://i.imgur.com/UuRKC.png any easy way to fix this?
[07:52] <ooph> bekks: good idea. try "/part #ubuntu"
[07:53] <zjo> bloop: I did that and still getting the same error. In file included from main.h:6:0, from main.c:1:/usr/include/X11/Xlib.h:38:21: fatal error: sys/types.h: no such file or directory.
[07:53] <maestrojed> ActionParsnip Ok, I am downloading those nvidia files, thank you. I am not sure what you meant in your second response
[07:53] <aguilat> i cant use wireless on a lenovo v460, rfkill shows acermodule loaded, any pointers?
[07:54] <gaodechen> Hi,everyone
[07:54] <gaodechen> i want to ask onr question
[07:54] <bloopletech> zjo: try reinstalling libc6-dev
[07:54] <gaodechen> hoe to install gtk+
[07:54] <ActionParsnip> maestrojed: nvidia-current installs the 280 driver. You have quite a new chip which may need the 285 driver which is in a 3rd party repo.
[07:55] <KillaByte> i am trying to record my desktop with  desktop recorder but when i select encode on the fly its way to fast and if i uncheck it it is pixeled
[07:55] <zjo> bloopletech: I'm a new user. I dont think I ever installed libc6-dev. How would I do that?
[07:55] <bloopletech> gaodechen: to do development with gtk, or what other reason?
[07:55] <maestrojed> ActionParsnip ahh, Ok. I will see what happens after this package comes down. If it doesn't work I will look into that
[07:55] <bloopletech> zjo: sudo apt-get install libc6-dev
[07:55] <ActionParsnip> jtannenbaum: what language are the filenames?
[07:55] <jtannenbaum> ActionParsnip: japanese I believe
[07:56] <bloopletech> zjo: rather sudo apt-get install --reinstall libc6-dev
[07:56] <KillaByte> anyone know a decent desktop recorder for ubuntu 11.10
[07:56] <ActionParsnip> maestrojed: you'll need to reboot to enable the driver (easiest way)
[07:56] <maestrojed> ActionParsnip will do, thank you
[07:56] <bloopletech> jtannenbaum: where did you get the files from? were they correct before
[07:57] <jtannenbaum> from a zip file from a japanese band website
[07:57] <zjo> bloopletech: Same error :( .. I'm trying to install www.math.pitt.edu/~bard/bardware/xppaut_latest.tar.gz.
[07:57] <gaodechen> i want to write gtk program.and use glade.but glade3 does not match with gtk version
[07:57] <bloopletech> jtannenbaum: ah the filenames are most likely shift-jis encoded, you want to look for a
[07:57] <ActionParsnip> KillaByte: recordmydesktop or xvidcap
[07:57] <bloopletech> jtannenbaum: 'mp3 filename encoding fix tool' or somesuch
[07:57] <ActionParsnip> !info xvidcap
[07:58] <jtannenbaum> eh this band isn't good enough to warrant. thanks though
[07:58] <bloopletech> zjo: I'm having a look
[07:58] <zjo> bloopletech: Thank you.
[07:59] <KillaByte> thanks actionparsnip
[07:59] <zjo> bloopletech: Does it matter what directory I'm in when I type 'sudo apt-get ... '
[07:59] <Thelmaria> zjo: Nope.
[07:59] <gaodechen> i want to write gtk program.and use glade.but glade3 does not match with gtk version.who can help me?thanks
[08:00] <aguilat> i cant use wireless on a lenovo v460, rfkill shows acermodule loaded, any pointers?
[08:01] <pnorman> I want to compile a package from source by hand and then install another package that depends on the first one. Is there a way to make it use my version of the first package instead of getting it again?
[08:01] <ooph> gaodechen: unless you're wanting the plugin, febreeze might do the trick
[08:01] <ooph> sorry, couldn't resist.
[08:02] <gaodechen> One question:how to install gnome 11?
[08:02] <gaodechen> In ubuntu11
[08:03] <ooph> gaodechen: use an earlier version of Ubuntu. Canonical decided we shouldn't have the option of using the old gnome, it doesn't fit with their policy of making us learn a new OS every 6 months.
[08:04] <gaodechen> oh,thanks very much
[08:04] <bloopletech> ooph: sorry, you're the same one who was attacking someone before for being ad hominem
[08:04] <bloopletech> make up your mind
[08:04] <zjo> bloopletech: Find anything?
[08:05] <bloopletech> zjo: I' trying to edit the makefile, will be  a little bit
[08:05] <ooph> aguilat: http://askubuntu.com/questions/43529/my-lenovo-ideapad-u165-wireless-doesnt-work
[08:05] <ooph> aguilat: the problem is apparently the acer driver getting in the way, if i am reading this correctly
[08:05] <zjo> Oh okay thanks. I googled my issue and everyone is saying libc6-dev fixed their problem. Not mine unfortunately :(
[08:06] <ooph> aguilat: the comments (answers) on that page seem to have a solution
[08:06] <tapout> so unity != gnome shell 3 eh?
[08:06] <aguilat> ooph, thanks! will look into it now
[08:06] <ooph> unity = ubuntu-specific. gnome3/gnome-shell = platform-independent.
[08:07] <ooph> gnome2 = gone. ooph = sad.
[08:07] <Auckla> :*(
[08:09] <bloopletech> zjo: do sudo apt-get install g++-multilib, then run make again
[08:09] <bloopletech> i just tried it and it built successfully for me
[08:11] <zjo> bloopletech: Okay one second.
[08:11] <bloopletech> I've got the 'Resolve generated breaks,	this may be caused by held packages' on upgrade natty => oneiric, but grepping the apt log shows no broken packages, what should I look at to try and fix it?
[08:12] <zjo> bloopletech: I got a bunch of scrolling warnings, then 'ld returned 1 exit status'
[08:12] <cirwin> hi, I'm looking to get myself a new SSD — and I'd like to find out what SATA version my chipset supports, what should I do?
[08:13] <tonyyarusso> cirwin: Google your motherboard.
[08:13] <metalforever> ^
[08:13] <zjo> bloopletech: usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lX11
[08:13] <zjo> that was the last line of all the warnings.
[08:13] <cirwin> tonyyarusso: ok, I'll try google — that seems like a boring answer :)
[08:14] <tonyyarusso> indeed
[08:14] <cirwin> I also noticed that disks don't show up in lspci, do they appear some place else?
[08:14] <bekks> disks never show up in lspci, they do in sudo fdisk -l
[08:15] <bloopletech> zjo: you also need to install the x11 dev libraries - you'
[08:15] <bloopletech> ll need to goole the package name
[08:15] <zjo> bloop: thanks.
[08:15] <KillaByte> how many arestill using ubuntu10.04?...instead of 11.10
[08:15] <cirwin> bekks: that doesn't show any info about the underlying hardware/manufacturer?
[08:16] <bekks> cirwin: Thats totally irrelevant for the disks themselves, so "no".
[08:16] <Guest34810> apa
[08:16] <tonyyarusso> KillaByte: lots
[08:16] <KillaByte> 11.10 seems off huh?
[08:16] <tonyyarusso> cirwin: lshw
[08:17] <tonyyarusso> KillaByte: 11.10 is not an LTS release.
[08:17] <cirwin> tonyyarusso: awesome! thanks
[08:18] <KillaByte> thanks tony im new to ubuntu been on windows and trying to get to know my way around
[08:18] <Guest34810> hai...
[08:18] <Guest34810> hay..
[08:19] <metalforever> KillaByte: need any help?
[08:20] <KillaByte> was trying to get desktop recorder to work but rather it was pixeled out or video plays to fast
[08:20] <KillaByte> thinking of going to ubuntu 10.04
[08:21] <zjo> bloopletech: Did you find the correct package name?
[08:21] <ooph> KillaByte: Ubuntu 11.04 seems to be just as functional as 11.10, and you can select "Ubuntu Classic" as your desktop environment from the login screen. 10.04 is the LTS (Long Term Support) release, and is also a viable option.
[08:22] <ooph> 11.10, unfortunately, removed the ability to use "Ubuntu Classic"
[08:22] <huttan> Unity just take some gettin used to and it's pretty damn nice =)
[08:23] <KillaByte> ok last question i had win7 64 bit on here should i also install a 64 bit version of ubuntu being i have 4gb of ram?
[08:23] <llutz_> KillaByte: yes
[08:23] <ooph> huttan: "it just takes some getting used to" was the reason I was able to convert many of my friends from Windows Vista/7 to Ubuntu in the first place.
[08:23] <KillaByte> kool thank yall so much
[08:25] <HulkHogan> unity sucks actually
[08:25] <ooph> HulkHogan: yep. Ubuntu was stealing disgruntled windows users left and right, and then they decided to try to force their userbase to MacOS. not a smart move.
[08:26] <metalforever> ooph: lol
[08:26] <metalforever> my problem with the distro is that it feels "slow"
[08:26] <HulkHogan> ooph: =) true
[08:26] <metalforever> "<ooph> 11.10, unfortunately, removed the ability to use "Ubuntu Classic""
[08:26] <metalforever> really?
[08:27] <metalforever> not upgrading the other pc then
[08:27] <HulkHogan> u can get gnome3 fallback mode but is not the same
[08:27] <ircc> [6~[5~[6~[5~[6~[6~[5~
[08:27] <Philosoraptor> .w 11
[08:27] <metalforever> i kind of dont like gnome 3 either
[08:27] <metalforever> its slow.
[08:28] <metalforever> ubuntu 11.04 was slow with 4gb ram..
[08:28] <scriptwarlock> do we need to rant here?
[08:28] <ooph> it was bad enough when they moved the buttons to the wrong (left) side of the windows... but that was "easily" fixable with gconf-edit. now they've broken a good thing, with no more reason than wanting to make a tablet OS. My PC is a PC, not a tablet, not a smartphone. I have a right mouse-button, I intend to be able to right-click. I don't want icons that are an inch and a half across on my
[08:28] <ooph> 23" 1080p display.
[08:28] <metalforever> did they figure that out yet?
[08:28]  * metalforever is using slack
[08:28] <metalforever> >_>
[08:28] <bekks> metalforever: the amount of ram is more than enough if having 4GB.
[08:28] <metalforever> i cant deal with the new gnome
[08:28] <metalforever> then its just slow..
[08:29] <metalforever> its not like I had a lot installed, just the usual
[08:29] <scriptwarlock> we can talk/rant a lot in ubuntu-offtopic
[08:29] <ooph> scriptwarlock: yes, we need to rant here. we need to rant on every forum, in every channel, and everywhere we think we can get Canonical's attention. they're losing users in droves because they decided they knew better than their users what their users want to do.
[08:29] <oobiloz> there is such a channeL?
[08:29] <llutz_> !ot
[08:29] <oobiloz> so there is
[08:29] <ooph> I would cheerfully graffiti it on the side of their building, if it would guarantee they would fix this change.
[08:30] <metalforever> what we really need is something thats actually a democracy, IMO
[08:30] <ooph> negative.
[08:30] <ooph> democracy = tyranny of the majority.
[08:30] <metalforever> ah..
[08:30] <metalforever> this might be true.
[08:30] <ooph> what we need is to be given our choices back.
[08:30] <huttan> ooph, sad but true :)
[08:30] <HulkHogan> ooph: go KDE?
[08:30] <metalforever> I dont know what I am going to do in coming months because KDE 4 makes me inefficient and gnome 3 is just as bad..
[08:31] <ooph> i hate KDE. tried it. couldn't stand it.
[08:31] <smw> ooph, very true
[08:31] <metalforever> xfce doesnt work with wine very well
[08:31] <llutz_> ooph: there are felt 2 mio distros available, pick your choice but stop your offtopic rants here. respect the rules, pls
[08:31] <scriptwarlock> ok they have gieven us the ubuntu-oftopic channel so off we go?!
[08:31] <metalforever> I think that this is quite an "ontopic" discussion...
[08:31] <scriptwarlock> or else be kicked
[08:31] <llutz_> metalforever: its not, this is SUPPORT not rants
[08:31] <metalforever> ah..
[08:32] <ooph> I'm about to switch to CEntOS 6 because it's the only distro I can find that still uses Gnome2. Apparently, CEntOS cares more about being "rock-solid stable" than about being "the latest flavor-of-the-week".
[08:32] <zjo> I am getting an error that says /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lX11. I typed 'make' to install something and this is what it gives me.
[08:32] <ooph> I do WORK on my PC. I expect my PC to WORK. Consistently, and in a consistent manner.
[08:32] <metalforever> ooph: lets switch this over to ubuntu-offtopic
[08:32] <HulkHogan> ooph: u can try MATE
[08:32] <metalforever> i have some comments
[08:32] <huttan> It's alot of whining on ubuntu..we're on linux, so we can configure whatever we want to suit our needs? :)
[08:33] <huttan> back to real work..
[08:33] <ooph> huttan: try putting gnome2 back on ubuntu 11.10. let me know if you succeed. this is not sarcasm.
[08:33] <HulkHogan> ooph: why not just use 10.10
[08:34] <strix_> zjo: try sudo apt-get install libx11-dev
[08:34] <ooph> HulkHogan: because I want to know that my distro is supported?
[08:35] <huttan> 10.10 is LTS...
[08:35] <tonyyarusso> huttan: No it's not - 10.04 is
[08:35] <llutz_> huttan: it's not, 10.04 is
[08:35] <huttan> thats right, sorry =(
[08:35] <HulkHogan> ooph: well 10.04 then it got another year of support
[08:35] <zjo> strix_: I already have that installed.
[08:36] <ooph> HulkHogan: and what do i do in 18 months?
[08:36] <vooze> Is it just me or is the gnome-shell in ubuntu 11.10 really bad? I used gnome-shell in Archlinux without bugs or anyyhing.. but it keeps crashing in ubuntu, filezilla drag n' drop etc. dont work.. Is it really that buggy or just me ?: (
[08:37] <ooph> HulkHogan: maybe you should join us in #ubuntu-offtopic
[08:38] <eristikophiles> ok, here's perhaps an odd question. how do i invoke grub-mkconfig from a liveDVD to run based on values not in the /etc/default/grub of the liveDVD's /etc but from a mounted other /etc on the actual hard disk?
[08:39] <jeevagan> hi
[08:40] <FishFace> ooph: Got KDE loaded. This I can work with :)
[08:40] <FishFace> At least the panel is back on the bottom.
[08:41] <eristikophiles> lol
[08:41] <HulkHogan> KDE is nice actually
[08:41] <HulkHogan> u can have many diff shells
[08:41] <HulkHogan> and still switch between them
[08:41] <FishFace> Yep
[08:41] <FishFace> This is nice
[08:41] <ooph> I disagree. That's the beauty of having a choice; we can decide we don't like the same things another person, and not be forced to eat them anyway.
[08:43] <strix_> zjo: strange, it builds on my laptop with only g++-multilib & libx11-dev installed
[08:44] <zjo> strix_: I get a whole list of errors :/
[08:46] <Kre10s_> #kubuntu-devel
[08:47] <eristikophiles> HulkHogan- dude.. i just realized how that works.
[08:47] <zjo> strix_: pastebin.com/YRvZweR9
[08:47] <zjo> those are all the errors im getting after typing 'make'
[08:47] <eristikophiles> had to try it on a box that wouldn't dump me in terminal with no way of checking for an answer online (the broken one)
[08:47] <eristikophiles> XD
[08:47] <eristikophiles> am happy..
[08:47] <HulkHogan> eristikophiles: what?
[08:48] <eristikophiles> you know i've used KDE for like, 6 years now, and i never really sank the concept of ctrl-alt-F# into my head?
[08:48] <bekks> zjo: line 208
[08:48] <eristikophiles> i knew you could get into terminals that way, but i never figured out how to get back to the gui
[08:48] <eristikophiles> i just searched and found it
[08:48] <eristikophiles> ..strange
[08:48] <llutz_> eristikophiles: alt-f7
[08:49] <zjo> bekks: How do I fix that?
[08:49] <HulkHogan> eristikophiles: not sure what ur talking about
[08:49] <eristikophiles> llutz_- yeah i just saw
[08:49] <llutz_> eristikophiles: and that has nothing to do with the DE/WM you use
[08:49] <eristikophiles> it's amazing. i'm wondering why i run terminals in gui now lol
[08:49] <eristikophiles> though i guess, i can still see my clocks and stuff when i do
[08:50] <eristikophiles> hm. i think when i started using kde, this feature broke my box at the time.
[08:50] <eristikophiles> must be why i forgot about it
[08:50] <eristikophiles> llutz_- really? it's kernel-specific?
[08:50] <ooph> eristikophiles: yakuake for KDE, Guake for Gnome. one-button access to toggle the terminal
[08:51] <ooph> GUI-mode only, of course.
[08:51] <metalforever> i just put a terminal button on my gnome 2 panel.
[08:51] <HulkHogan> tty screen?
[08:51] <llutz_> eristikophiles: X starts on the 1st console not occupied by a tty. for some historical reasons, most distros run 6 tty, so X runs on 7
[08:51] <ooph> metalforever: why use the mouse to open an app you're going to be using secifically with the keyboard?
[08:51] <bekks> zjo: Try installing libx11-dev
[08:52] <ooph> F12, type, enter, F12, terminal slides back up into the top of the screen...
[08:52]  * metalforever uses slack
[08:52] <metalforever> so..
[08:52] <metalforever> If i want command line only.
[08:52] <metalforever> i just dont start x.
[08:52] <metalforever> simple as
[08:52] <zjo> bekks: I've already done that. Any other suggestions?
[08:53] <eristikophiles> llutz_- i was just reading xorg docs.. i realized it must be there.. also know why on bsd it didn't let me get back: bsd uses all 12 f-keys
[08:53] <llutz_>  eristikophiles "ls -l /etc/init/tty*"  disable tty6.conf  and restart. your X will start on tty6 then
[08:53] <eristikophiles> so there's not one to press to get back lol
[08:53] <bekks> zjo: Did you install libX11-dev, too? Caution, xaps are intended.
[08:54] <eristikophiles> llutz_- i see now. cool
[08:55] <ooph> metalforever: well yeah, but that's like stepping back into the dark ages of DOS 5.0/Windows 3.0 - boot, play around on the command line, then type "win" or "startx" and get your GUI on.
[08:55] <eristikophiles> still, i also see now why i didn't learn that trick 6 years ago- freebsd uses all of F1 to F12 for tty so there was no f-key leftover to press to get back
[08:55] <zjo> bekks: yes.
[08:55] <metalforever> "ooph"
[08:55] <metalforever> i like it.
[08:55]  * metalforever is in computer engineering.
[08:55] <metalforever> it allows me to get my vi groove on
[08:55] <ooph> thought you were a web developer
[08:55] <metalforever> that too
[08:56] <ooph> heh
[08:56] <metalforever> im in school
[08:56] <metalforever> ive been doing web development for 6 years
[08:56] <metalforever> right now i do it on the side to pay for food
[08:56] <metalforever> but im actually attending CMU for computer engineering.
[08:56] <HulkHogan> F1-F6 = tty, F7-F12 = gui
[08:59] <eristikophiles> huh. on the liveDVD, f7 is just blank. f8 is needed to get back
[09:00] <eristikophiles> ..and on this box, f8+ are blank
[09:00] <eristikophiles> ..and i do recall trying in freebsd. all 12 were cli terminals
[09:00] <zjo> I'm getting an error "error while loading shared libraries: libX11.so.6: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory" when trying to execute an executable. Any ideas?
[09:00] <eristikophiles> anyway
[09:00] <eristikophiles> back to messing with grub
[09:01] <rostayob> how can I check which services will start automatically?
[09:01] <Ycarene> Where can I find a list of all of the services that start up automatically?
[09:02] <Us3r_Unfriendly> hi everyone.  I have a problem when I try to open my trash directory from  nautilus.  it gives back the output: "Sorry, could not display all the contents of  "trash": Operation not supported"
[09:02] <crimscx> does ubuntu support intel turbo boost yet?
[09:03] <zhangfei> ni hao
[09:03] <ooph> Us3r_Unfriendly: probably too much trash in the GUI. There's a hard limit set somewhere, I bet.
[09:03] <Us3r_Unfriendly> granted I could sudo rm -frv ~/.local/share/Trash/* ,but I want my system to work properly
[09:03] <Us3r_Unfriendly> ooph: nope There's nothing in it now.
[09:03] <Us3r_Unfriendly> ooph: both root and $User, there's nothing in it
[09:05] <Us3r_Unfriendly> also there's no Computer icon either
[09:05] <Us3r_Unfriendly> weird
[09:05] <eristikophiles> ok so i replaced the liveDVD's /etc/default/grub with the one i edited. i then ran grub-mkconfig -o [whereiwantthe grub.cfg] .. it returns an error, saying that grub-probe can't "find a device for / (is /dev mounted?)" .. this is odd. how is /dev supposed to be mounted? or does it mean is / mounted on a dev? or what?
[09:06] <frogoscar> #linuxembedded
[09:06] <eristikophiles> man grub-probe doesn't help. i mean, i get how grub-probe works now, but i don't suppose i can get grub-mkconfig do what i want so easily
[09:06] <Us3r_Unfriendly> eristikophiles: sudo mount --bind /mnt/dev/ /dev/              or where ever
[09:06] <frogoscar> #linuxembedded
[09:06] <Us3r_Unfriendly> i'm better at cli than I am with gui lol
[09:07] <eristikophiles> hm. so i use --bind to remap the hd's partitions for / and /boot over where the liveDVD thinks they are? then i can just run grub-mkconfig as i please?
[09:07] <Us3r_Unfriendly> eristikophiles: you mount it with the --bind flag and mount your dev off your harddrive to your dev in your live environment
[09:07] <eristikophiles> hm wait. i can't unmount /boot though can i?
[09:07] <Us3r_Unfriendly> eristikophiles: yeah
[09:08] <eristikophiles> ok. i guess at worst i'll mess up my precious RAM-only liveDVD stuff
[09:08] <Us3r_Unfriendly> eristikophiles: pastebin "sudo fdisk -l"
[09:08] <Ycarene> How do I remove a program from starting when I boot my computer?
[09:08] <Us3r_Unfriendly> Ycarene: what program
[09:08] <luca> dear friends I have a problem with moonlight
[09:09] <Thelmaria> luca: So shut the curtains at night.
[09:09] <Us3r_Unfriendly> luca: that might be browser related
[09:09] <luca> thelmaria: ahahah very funny :) I'm using chromium
[09:10] <Us3r_Unfriendly> luca: what's the problem?
[09:10] <Ycarene> us3r_unfriendly - Well, I had apache for testing purposes and even after uninstalling it, it somehow starts on boot.  I know it has to do with /etc/default  and /etc/init but I can't really figure it out as its so different than using runlevels.
[09:10] <luca> it doesn't work
[09:10] <Us3r_Unfriendly> Ycarene: so "sudo service apache stop" ,does this work??
[09:10] <luca> I am on youdem tv
[09:11] <Us3r_Unfriendly> luca: sorry i don't know what that is
[09:11] <ooph> Ycarene: i *think* you can get to "Startup Programs" via the "system control" menu under your name on the top-right, but I'm not certain that's where Canonical moved it to when they decided we all needed "PlaySchool's My first Tablet" on our desktop PCs.
[09:11] <luca> it is the television of Partito Democratico
[09:11] <eristikophiles> huh, seems to have worked
[09:11] <Ycarene> ooph - that's more for sessions I think.
[09:11] <Us3r_Unfriendly> eristikophiles: thanks for your thanks i guess
[09:11] <eristikophiles> time to reboot
[09:12] <luca> It needed Silverlight I pushed the bottom and installed moonlight but now it doesn't work
[09:12] <eristikophiles> Us3r_Unfriendly- if it does work, i will thank you formally :)
[09:12] <Ycarene> us3r_unfriendly - that works, but how do I get it so I don't have to do that after rebooting.  (had to use apache2)
[09:12] <eristikophiles> :)
[09:12] <zjo> I'm getting an error "error while loading shared libraries: libX11.so.6: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory" when trying to execute an executable. Any ideas?
[09:12] <eristikophiles> i got several errors but it exited clean
[09:12] <bekks> zjo: You did not install libX11
[09:12] <Us3r_Unfriendly> Ycarene: so you uninstalled apache correct and you don't want the system files still on your machine correct??
[09:12] <zjo> yes.
[09:12] <bekks> zjo: Then install it :)
[09:12] <eristikophiles> apparently the hw raid array (turned off) caused some errors but it seems to have decided to deal with them and move on
[09:13] <Ycarene> us3r_unfriendly - that's part of it, yes.
[09:13] <zjo> bekks: I did install it already I meant to say.
[09:13] <Ycarene> getting it to not start would be enough though.
[09:13] <HulkHogan> zjo: probally an old version or a new one, best if u symlink it to an existing file
[09:13] <luca> I'm trying with firefox now maybe the problem is the browser
[09:13] <eristikophiles> nope. grub rescue is all that boots ;p
[09:13] <Us3r_Unfriendly> Ycarene: this should work for the /etc/ part:      sudo find /etc/ -iname "*apache*" -exec rm -frv {} \;
[09:13] <Us3r_Unfriendly> Ycarene: try that
[09:14] <zjo> bekks: The file is located on my system under the following location: /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu
[09:14] <llutz_> Ycarene: disable "Start on xxxx"  in /etc/init/apache.conf
[09:14] <zjo> HulkHogan: I dont know what thatmeans, I'm a new user.
[09:14] <Us3r_Unfriendly> Ycarene: and reboot.  apache should not start seeing that the run level don't have apache there anymore
[09:14] <eristikophiles> the odd part is that i turned off the UUID function, and it *still* shows "error: no such device: [UUID]"
[09:14] <Ycarene> llutz_ - that's, I think that's what I was looking for.
[09:14] <bekks> zjo: Could you nopaste the output of "lsb_release -a" please?
[09:15] <llutz_> Ycarene: and pls don't just remove some fiels from /etc, it might break more things than it helps
[09:15] <llutz_> files
[09:15] <HulkHogan> zjo: try entering locate libX11.so
[09:15] <Us3r_Unfriendly> eristikophiles: what do you mean.  I guess I never knew the exact problem
[09:16] <HulkHogan> zjo: u might see a different version
[09:16] <Ycarene> llutz_ - I wasn't going to, heh
[09:16] <eristikophiles> i've been trying to install kubuntu on a second hd.. this box has windows on the first hd, and the second had ubuntu.. but it was glitchy and messed up, so i clean wiped that drive and installed kubuntu
[09:16] <eristikophiles> only now the boot loader is messed up
[09:16] <eristikophiles> lol
[09:16] <DigitalNinja> when I mount a nfs share it always has the group set to root, but i need to seet it so that the group dev has RW access.
[09:17] <DigitalNinja> how do i do that
[09:17] <widewake> hey there.  Mozilla wont recognize my 3rdparty webcam device WebCamStudio, Epiphany browser recognizes it, though mozilla wont. Heelp
[09:17] <Us3r_Unfriendly> eristikophiles: so you want to redo grub2 on the drive correct
[09:17] <eristikophiles> yeah i've been reading on it and trying different things
[09:17] <zjo> bekks: nopaste.info/87662eade4.html
[09:18] <Us3r_Unfriendly> DigitalNinja: /etc/fstab
[09:18] <eristikophiles> heh. i think i may have found the issue
[09:18] <Ycarene> Ok, now I shouldn't break anything if I blow away avahi should I?
[09:18] <Us3r_Unfriendly> cruicfied already
[09:18] <strix_> zjo: ah, you may need ia32-libs, try sudo apt-get install ia32-libs
[09:19] <widewake> Mozilla wont recognize my 3rdparty webcam device WebCamStudio, Epiphany browser recognizes it, though mozilla wont any ideas?
[09:19] <zjo> HulkHogan: /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libX11.so.6
[09:19] <eristikophiles> i thought the option for booting into 'command' mode meant it would boot into a cli-based menu.
[09:19] <HulkHogan> zjo: what was the error again
[09:20] <zjo> I'm getting an error "error while loading shared libraries: libX11.so.6: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory" when trying to execute an executable. Any ideas?
[09:20] <HulkHogan> zjo: is basically looking in the wrong folder
[09:20] <HulkHogan> zjo: so u can fix that by using symlink
[09:21] <Us3r_Unfriendly> Ycarene: I agree with lluts by not removing files from /etc/, but apache is the exception.  BUT in this case I would rather have you install: "bum"...lluts: do you agree this would be a good solution??
[09:21] <zjo> HulkHogan: I'm a first day user of Ubuntu / Linux, no Idea what that means.
[09:21] <llutz_> Us3r_Unfriendly: i don't since i don't know what "bum" is
[09:21] <Us3r_Unfriendly> Ycarene: bum is the boot up manager that offers a nice gui to services that you can turn off from boot with a single click of a mouse
[09:22] <Us3r_Unfriendly> !bum
[09:22] <Ycarene> I fixed the apache issue, did a look through synaptic and found it was still installed for some reason, now I'm just wondering if it's a good idea to get rid of some of the other processor hog programs, and avahi is high on my list.
[09:22] <Us3r_Unfriendly> avahi is good
[09:22] <Us3r_Unfriendly> !avahi
[09:22] <Ycarene> us3r_unfriendly - but will I break anything if I remove it?
[09:23] <Us3r_Unfriendly> Ycarene: which one?
[09:23] <Us3r_Unfriendly> Ycarene: avahi?
[09:23] <HulkHogan> zjo: what program is this for
[09:23] <Ycarene> us3r_unfriendly - yes
[09:23] <Us3r_Unfriendly> Avahi is a free zeroconf implementation, including a system for multicast DNS/DNS-SD service discovery. It is licensed under the GNU Lesser General Public License
[09:23] <llutz_> Us3r_Unfriendly: i'd prefer sysv-rc-conf but anyways. use whatever works for you. upstart still lacks tools/documentation
[09:23] <Ycarene> us3r-unfriendly - or zeitgeist
[09:25] <Us3r_Unfriendly> Ycarene: ?
[09:25] <Us3r_Unfriendly> Ycarene: I'd keep it running
[09:25] <DigitalNinja> the setting in fstab allow me to set group?
[09:25] <Ycarene> us3r_unfriendly - yes, avahi, zeitgeist, some others, can I uninstall them?
[09:26] <Us3r_Unfriendly> Ycarene: I'd do some google-ing before removing certain services.  Might turn you might need these and some you don't
[09:26] <llutz_> DigitalNinja: you use chown/chmod/chgrp if you don't have user-squash enabled on your nfs-server
[09:27] <Us3r_Unfriendly> llutz_: i think that might be my problem
[09:27] <Ycarene> us3r_unfriendly - removed avahi, zeitgeist and tracker.
[09:27] <Us3r_Unfriendly> Ycarene: okay from synaptic or from bum????
[09:27] <Ycarene> synaptic
[09:28] <eristikophiles> ok no, i didn't have the command option enabled. it's commented out
[09:28] <eristikophiles> ;p
[09:28] <Ycarene> us3r_unfriendly - synaptic
[09:28] <Us3r_Unfriendly> Ycarene: i would have used bum, that way you could re-enable it if you need it
[09:28] <llutz_> DigitalNinja: if your group "dev" on client needs write-permission, the group has to have writeaccess on server. if the groups are identical on both systems, you have to map them. have fun...
[09:28] <Ycarene> us3r_unfriendly - I didn't see anything that would be explicitly broken by removing them, so they're gone.
[09:29] <Us3r_Unfriendly> Ycarene: when you reboot your machine
[09:29] <fatboy21007> i need some help , for 4 days now i keep askin this question but not one has helped me, My mmo keeps gettin a socket errors im on 11.10 all stuff is 100% updated and yet i get this log and a winsock error that wont go away    http://pastebin.com/as46PihR          I would be very greatful if some1 would help me solve this
[09:29] <Us3r_Unfriendly> Ycarene: ...you might run into some problems
[09:29] <DigitalNinja> our users and groups are identical, ah kk i was trying to do it on the client...pretty sure i have made this exact mistake 20 times now
[09:30] <Us3r_Unfriendly> Ycarene: that's like removing all kernel files in your machine and then rebooting to find out you have a problem
[09:30] <Ycarene> us3r_unfriendly - I don't see what, avahi seemed to be for automatic network discovery, which I don't use, zeitgeist is a logger which didn't seem relevant and tracker was a dependency of unity which I'm not using either.
[09:31] <Us3r_Unfriendly> Ycarene: cool, like i said, some people might need it and some might not
[09:31] <Ycarene> We'll see on the reboot I guess
[09:31] <Us3r_Unfriendly> eristikophiles: is it cool if i private message you to work on your problem??
[09:32] <llutz_> Ycarene: if those packages were really needed, you couldn't just remove them. so either you're fine now without them, or the packages are heavily broken if something won't run after reboot
[09:32] <eristikophiles> yeah sure
[09:33] <Ycarene> llutz_ - Nothing of note was removed, parts of unity(I run xfce) and it re-installed wine, that was it.
[09:34] <llutz_> Ycarene: so you should be fine. avahi etc are useless in most cases imho
[09:34] <widewake> http://www.blogtv.com/people/TheBearX this is happening with webcam studio, any idear?
[09:35] <cristian_c> Hi
[09:37] <Ycarene> brb
[09:39] <tresorine> hello
[09:39] <zeroblock> hi
[09:40] <fatboy21007> :-(
[09:42] <Industrial> I have a complaint / question about the ubuntu software center. What's the best place to go with it so I can talk with the people working on it? I think it's really user unfriendly as it is.
[09:42] <Industrial> (compared to synapti workflow0
[09:42] <Industrial> synaptic workflow*
[09:43] <cristian_c> I have a problem. To make working the keyboard with special keys, I had to install a program called keytouch and use the editor to configure the buttons on the device. Despite keytouch editor recognizes the keys on the fly and its natural features, some keys captured codes identify codes different from those associated with the same keys captured by xev. The system then, when you press these buttons, instead of using
[09:43] <cristian_c> the keytouch codes, enables the xev codes, and thus the keytouch configuration is wrong and these keys do not work. Then the problem is as follows: disabling xev into the system and replacing it with keytouch or other alternative software. I was told that it should be necessary to work with udev. What I am asking you is: what should I touch?
[09:44] <cristian_c> I searched long and hard on google about how to disable xev, but I found nothing :(
[09:45] <bekks> cristian_c: xev is just an app. Stop it, and it isnt there :)
[09:45] <cristian_c> bekks, thanks for the answer :)
[09:46] <cristian_c> bekks, how can I stop xev?
[09:47] <llutz_> chitragupt: xev just shows you x-events. it does not affect them/change them
[09:47] <llutz_> cristian_c: ^^
[09:48] <Ycarene> Everything seems fine here.
[09:48] <eristikophiles> you have been eaten by a grue
[09:48] <cristian_c> llutz_, So what should I disable?
[09:48] <eristikophiles> (just when everything seems fine..)
[09:48] <Ycarene> This might be outside the scope of this channel, but I've got issues with ipv6, it takes forever to make a connection, though once connected, seems to run fine.
[09:48] <cristian_c> :)
[09:49] <Industrial> I have a complaint / question about the ubuntu software center. What's the best place to go with it so I can talk with the people working on it? I think it's really user unfriendly as it is.
[09:49] <llutz_> cristian_c: no idea, it's just not "xev" sry
[09:49] <Industrial> it reloads the whole screen every time a package finishes in or uninstalling
[09:50] <Industrial> try doing 30 packages
[09:50] <cristian_c> llutz_, ok, then I return to the starting point :(
[09:50] <Industrial> youll go crazy trying to navigate back to where you were in the itnerface 30 times
[09:50] <Industrial> hell its a queue, act like a queue :|
[09:50] <Industrial> (like apt get)
[09:51] <llutz_> Industrial: https://launchpad.net/software-center   look for contact/devs
[09:51] <Industrial> thanks
[09:52] <kanha> I have fixed a bug(LP :#818475) and applied for sponsorship on 2011-10-27  but it is not reviewed yet can someone tell me what can be the reason for delay of review?
[09:53] <koshieFinalReliz> Hi
[09:53] <koshieFinalReliz> Anyone know on Xfce 4.8 how to configure dual screen ? I've my two screen but I want to use the both, one at left and one at right, not like clone.
[09:54] <llutz_> kanha:  ask in #launchpad
[09:54] <aaa_> where can i get help with installing OpenELEC.tv? when i try the next command, it tells me "command not found": sudo ./create_installstick /dev/sdb
[09:56] <koshieFinalReliz> aaa_, are you in the same directory than create_installstick ?
[09:56] <koshieFinalReliz> :)
[09:57] <soreau> koshieFinalReliz: What graphics driver?
[09:57] <koshieFinalReliz> soreau, Intel graphic card, on a laptop.
[09:57] <soreau> koshieFinalReliz: Have you tried xrandr?
[09:58] <aaa_> koshieFinalReliz, yes, the file is listed when i use dir
[09:58] <koshieFinalReliz> On GNOME 2-3 (Untiy / GNOME-SHELL) / KDE 4 that work well
[09:58] <koshieFinalReliz> aaa_, dir ?!
[09:58] <koshieFinalReliz> soreau, There is no graphical interface ?
[09:58] <koshieFinalReliz> (yes, on Lxde, that don't work very well or I'm not good at this)
[09:58] <aaa_> the command to list files from windows seams to work here too...
[09:58] <koshieFinalReliz> er
[09:58] <koshieFinalReliz> type ls
[09:58] <soreau> koshieFinalReliz: I don't know about for xfce but xrandr is a sure fire method. Otherwise, you could configure xorg.conf
[09:59] <aaa_> does the same with colors
[09:59] <koshieFinalReliz> aaa_, ok, do you have the script ?
[09:59] <koshieFinalReliz> soreau, grmph, I will try that again, thank you :p
[10:00] <aaa_> yes, it's a text file
[10:00] <koshieFinalReliz> So why command not found ?
[10:00] <koshieFinalReliz> Gimme the ls output, paste it if it's to big.
[10:00] <peterdawson> hi guys, amarock keeps asking me for the mp3 codec. whats wrong?
[10:00] <koshieFinalReliz> peterdawson, you don't have mp3 codec ? :]
[10:01] <aaa_> that's what i'm asking. here is the output:
[10:01] <peterdawson> koshieFinalReliz, i installed kubuntu yesterday night because i had a strange virus on windows lol
[10:01] <koshieFinalReliz> peterdawson, :)
[10:01] <koshieFinalReliz> peterdawson, you're new so ?
[10:01] <soreau> koshieFinalReliz: It's pretty easy to do, just have to know the output names. Something like xrandr --output VGA-0 --left-of S-video, or whatever your outputs are named
[10:01] <aaa_> aaa@aaa-desktop:~/Desktop/OpenELEC$ sudo ./create_installstick /dev/sdb
[10:01] <Industrial> llutz_: https://answers.launchpad.net/software-center/+question/177635
[10:01] <aaa_> sudo: ./create_installstick: command not found
[10:01] <aaa_> aaa@aaa-desktop:~/Desktop/OpenELEC$
[10:01] <peterdawson> koshieFinalReliz, kinda, yes. i used ubuntu for a short time before
[10:01] <koshieFinalReliz> .mp3 can't be installed on Ubuntu / Kubuntu / Lubuntu / Xubuntu per defaut, but you can install it
[10:02] <koshieFinalReliz> aaa_, no dude :)
[10:02] <koshieFinalReliz> I want the output of the ls command, nothing else
[10:02] <peterdawson> so how do i install the mp3 codec manually?
[10:02] <koshieFinalReliz> and if it's more than two lines paste it on www.pastinbin.com
[10:02] <aaa_> aaa@aaa-desktop:~/Desktop/OpenELEC$ ls
[10:02] <aaa_> 3rdparty     create_installstick      licenses      RELEASE
[10:02] <aaa_> Autorun.inf  create_installstick.bat  openelec.ico  sample.conf
[10:02] <aaa_> CHANGELOG    INSTALL                  README        target
[10:02] <aaa_> aaa@aaa-desktop:~/Desktop/OpenELEC$
[10:02] <FloodBot1> aaa_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:02] <koshieFinalReliz> peterdawson, if my memory is not dead there is apackage for all codecs, wait
[10:02] <koshieFinalReliz> aaa_, seriously, dude, read
[10:03] <koshieFinalReliz> I've say pasteit
[10:03] <nikolam> peterdawson, I usually add medibuntu repository and install decs from there
[10:03] <koshieFinalReliz> http://pastebin.com/
[10:03] <peterdawson> nikolam, how do i add medibuntu?
[10:04] <koshieFinalReliz> peterdawson, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats
[10:04] <koshieFinalReliz> there is your hapiness just right here :)
[10:05] <aaa_> Pastebin.com is under heavy load right now
[10:05] <koshieFinalReliz> peterdawson, if you have a question we're here :)
[10:05] <nikolam> peterdawson, help.ubuntu.com is your friend.  But with google javascript on. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Medibuntu
[10:05] <peterdawson> koshieFinalReliz, thanks. ill try out
[10:05] <koshieFinalReliz> aaa_, http://paste.ubuntu.com/
[10:05] <koshieFinalReliz> there is 12434 different website of this kind :)
[10:05] <koshieFinalReliz> aaa_, i'm not sure but try to chmod 777 (like a newbie, me :D) the script
[10:06] <nikolam> There is http://paste.ubuntu.com/
[10:06] <koshieFinalReliz> and try the sudo ./script /dev/sdb
[10:07] <aaa_> ok, http://paste.ubuntu.com/728926/
[10:08] <nikolam> peterdawson, you basically have all you would ever need in medibuntu.
[10:08] <aaa_> chmod: missing operand after `777'
[10:09] <bekks> aaa_: You have to tell chmod which files/directories do you want to change.
[10:10] <aaa_> aaa@aaa-desktop:~$ chmod 777 create_installstick
[10:10] <aaa_> chmod: cannot access `create_installstick': No such file or directory
[10:10] <bekks> aaa_: Thats the wrong name obviously :)
[10:11] <peterdawson> how do i install medibuntu?
[10:12] <aaa_> chmod worked (it was the wrong terminal window with the wrong directory
[10:12] <Stanley00> peterdawson: the same as install ubuntu, I think.
[10:13] <aaa_> the script is running. thanks guys
[10:14] <oCean> peterdawson: http://www.medibuntu.org/repository.php
[10:17] <peterdawson> i installed medibuntu but amarock still keeps asking for the mp3 codec
[10:19] <llutz_> peterdawson: install libxine1-plugins
[10:20] <jisaacs1207> Hey, I am pulling my hair out here trying to set up my first dns zone. Could anyone please answer some questions?
[10:20] <betahita> I have installed Nvidia driver from "additional driver" but the resolution still not fit yet to the sreen. (i use Oneiric) (Geforce 8400GS)
[10:22] <Ycarene> I'm an idiot.
[10:22] <jisaacs1207> I am worse.
[10:23] <Ycarene> I got a new router and afterwords my ipv6 wouldn't connect, it took me a week to realize that with the new mac address my ISP would give it a different address, I updated my ipv4 client endpoint and now it's blazing again.
[10:24] <Ycarene> brb
[10:26] <Kre10s_> ok. so I created a ppa on launchpad, and added a package to it...
[10:27] <Kre10s_> using dput ppa:bla bla source.changes... The command exited successfully, but i do not see the package in my ppa... whats up with that?
[10:28] <llutz_> Kre10s_: you might better ask in #launchpad
[10:29] <jisaacs1207> llutz_ : Do you think you could look at a dns zone file for me and tell me if i did it incorrectly?
[10:29] <llutz_> jisaacs1207: nope
[10:29] <jisaacs1207> llutz : thanks
[10:30] <addiks> Hi, ive upgraded to 11.10 and now X is not starting anymore. I have to [ctr]+[alt]+[f1], login as a user and "sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start" to run it. How to repair that?
[10:30] <llutz_> jisaacs1207: you should find versed guys in #bind
[10:31] <kikl> Hi everybody. I am learning python. I have read "A byte of python" and am planning to work through thinkpython and diveintopython. I am going to have to practice my acquired skills. Could Ubuntu give me assignments that benefit ubuntu and help me learn how to program python?
[10:39] <peterdawson> which skype version should i use? the one for ubuntu?
[10:39] <peterdawson> im using kubuntu btw
[10:39] <Stanley00> kikl: I hear that there is an app called quick, that use python to make app for Ubuntu, you could look at it
[10:40] <Sonderblade> this is a strange problem.. keyboard repeat on my keyboard has stopped working :)
[10:40] <slikke> download it from skype's website if you want the official one
[10:41] <kikl> Stanley00: Thanks, I'll take a look at it;-)
[10:41] <Stanley00> kikl: np ;)
[10:41] <szal> slikke: isn't the one from the partner repo the official one?
[10:42] <nikolam> I am unable to report a bug. I re-installed Firefox from repo and not helping it: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/728958/
[10:42] <slikke> i think the repo one is quite buggy
[10:42] <slikke> i used the website release and had no problem
[10:42] <slikke> but i'm maybe wrong =)
[10:44] <szal> slikke: what ver. does the website offer?
[10:45] <yashdesai> v11.10
[10:45] <szal> yashdesai: Skype, not Ubuntu ;)
[10:45] <slikke> dunno i didn't check it for a while :/
[10:45] <yashdesai> v5.1
[10:45] <yashdesai> :)
[10:45] <slikke> xD
[10:45] <yashdesai> which then upgrades to v7
[10:45] <yashdesai> after a week of runtime
[10:46] <szal> yashdesai: definitely not, unless you mean the Windows version
[10:47] <szal> (version of which isn't given on the download page)
[10:47] <Sterist> how do i extract a 7zip that's in 10 parts?
[10:47] <szal> for Linux it says 2.2 beta, which should be the same as Version: <IP_ADDRESS>-0natty1 that's in the partner repo
[10:47] <szal> Sterist: same as any other split archive, I guess
[10:48] <Sterist> szal please do elaborate :)
[10:48] <szal> you extract either the first or the last file in the series, the others get extracted automatically in the process
[10:48] <ooph> how can I get my Ubuntu installation to look, feel, and act like it did before I upgraded to 11.10?
[10:48] <llutz_> ooph: you can't
[10:49] <llutz_> ooph: and pls refuse your childish "ah oh uh canonical broke my toy" this time
[10:50] <ooph> sorry... forgive me for asking a question in the hopes that with a slightly different user list that some new, fresh face might have an answer.
[10:50] <szal> llutz_: refuse?
[10:51] <llutz_> avoid
[10:51] <szal> refrain from
[10:51] <darth_alakazam> hello
[10:51] <llutz_> szal: thanks, noted it
[10:52] <darth_alakazam> im new in using xubuntu
[10:53] <szal> darth_alakazam: and?
[10:53] <brontosaurusrex> ooph, shortly you cant, longer version: you may want to use gnome classic mode, the secret to change the panel apperance is to hold ALT before right clicking on those
[10:54] <paul__> guys
[10:54] <brontosaurusrex> alien?
[10:54] <paul__> how do i install skype? its not in the software installer and the ubuntu installer doesnt work on kubuntu
[10:54] <darth_alakazam> where cn i find support # 4 xubuntu
[10:55] <szal> !partner | paul__
[10:55] <dc5ala> paul__, you need to activate partner repo
[10:55] <szal> paul__: enable that, then install Skype
[10:55] <bazhang> darth_alakazam, #xubuntu
[10:56] <dany> ok
[10:57] <darth_alakazam> any1?
[10:57] <paul__> i did that but nothing happens
[10:59] <brontosaurusrex> !ask | darth_alakazam
[11:00] <_r00t_> !nopatience
[11:00] <phlak_user> !patience
[11:00]  * phlak_user o_O
[11:01] <_r00t_> hello phlak_user ask a question or gtfo
[11:02] <brontosaurusrex> "while you wait phlak_user will serve refreshing drinks"
[11:02] <phlak_user> !language | r00
[11:02] <phlak_user> !language | _r00t_
[11:02] <_r00t_> !typing skills | write phlak_user
[11:03] <_r00t_> !mark shuttleworth
[11:04] <_r00t_> !do you love mark shuttleworth
[11:04] <paul__> i added Canonical Partner Repository, what should i do now?
[11:04] <szal> !pmthebot | _r00t_
[11:04] <_r00t_> !what is pm
[11:04] <phlak_user> can someone pl rid us of this misery?
[11:04] <nikolam> darth_alakazam, version 4? Install latest (x)ubuntu release. there is also #xubuntu channel
[11:04] <zetheroo> Will this work in 11.10?  https://launchpad.net/~tp-fan/+archive/ppa?field.series_filter=jaunty
[11:05] <szal> paul__: refresh package sources and install Skype
[11:05] <sattu94> "sabdl" that's his middle name?
[11:05] <sattu94> "sabdfl" ?
[11:05] <_r00t_> !sabdl
[11:05] <NixGeek> I'm trying to route music from VLC to a teamspeak cleint for a music bot.  I have it on our dedicated server, with a basic openbox installtion and vncserver.  I have everything open and working, but how can I route adio from VLC to Teamspeak.  The server DOES NOT have a sound card.
[11:05] <llutz_> !botabuse | _r00t_
[11:06] <szal> ah, that was it, thx llutz_ ^^
[11:06] <strange> hey guys in which file do i set my nameserver?
[11:06] <phlak_user> NixGeek: use vls to stream; the server does not need a soundcard
[11:06] <NixGeek> phlak_user: can I have it send the stream to teamspeak?   VLC has a web interface and I want to use it to setup a bot.  I need to ahve VLC's output sent to a virtual input
[11:09] <_r00t_> NixGeek: so that you can annoy your team ? Doesn't sound too bright an idea
[11:09] <Daghdha> HI, i want to check my array (Riad with mdadm) In DIsk Utility i see the 'Check_Array' wich willcheck adn repair the array. Is this agood way for checking the array?
[11:09] <Sidewinder1> szal, Won't be the first (or last), time. :-(
[11:09] <phlak_user> NixGeek: look here -> there seems to be an addon for that -> http://addons.teamspeak.com/directory/plugins/miscellaneous/TeamSpeak3-MusicBot-Plugin.html
[11:10] <NixGeek> _r00t_: It's for a DJ, that will stay in a music channel...  go talk to the bot some more
[11:10] <_r00t_> Daghdha: cat /proc/mdstat
[11:10] <Daghdha> did that root, but that just shows the status don't it?
[11:10] <NixGeek> phlak_user: It doesn't have what I want, mainly a web interface, plus it's windows only...
[11:10] <_r00t_> NixGeek: sounds annoying
[11:11] <phlak_user> NixGeek: yes, i noticed that- but you can use the teamspeak SDK to build something similar
[11:11] <_r00t_> Daghdha: what else do you want ?
[11:11] <NixGeek> _r00t_: like you?
[11:11] <phlak_user> NixGeek: dont feed the troll please
[11:11] <Daghdha> check it for consistency, all files on it.
[11:11] <_r00t_> NixGeek: thanks for the compliment ... dimwit
[11:12] <szal> bazhang: care to take disciplinary action please?
[11:12] <NixGeek> phlak_user: Okay, I want it this way and I'v got it almost setup, and _r00t_ started this by saying my music bot would be annoying.
[11:12] <Dave-Maydew> Are any others having issues with Nvidia drivers either not displaying correctly or crashing in 11.10?
[11:12] <Sidewinder1> Perhaps we should move on..
[11:13] <ooph> i can think of several reasons why a bot would not necessarily be "annoying" on a voice communication channel.
[11:13] <szal> Dave-Maydew: no such issue here
[11:13] <ooph> many of them coincide with having a bot on an IRC channel, to be honest.
[11:13] <ooph> I don't see why this wopuld be a question for #ubuntu, though.
[11:13] <NixGeek> ooph: I already explained this to root, it will STAY in the music channel, and JUST play music
[11:13] <ooph> perhaps #vlc or #teamspeak would be better places?
[11:14] <ooph> ohhhh.
[11:14] <NixGeek> And it is because I want to route music on our server, without a sound card, from VLC to teamspeak
[11:14] <_r00t_> NixGeek: and google can't tell you this ?
[11:14] <ooph> have you consulted the FCC and the appropriate MafiAA organizations? I'm absolutely certain there's some licensing and/or royalty issues they'll want to discuss with you.
[11:14] <allu2> how i could use nautilus to connect my home pc which is behind NAT but i have DMZ to my server computer on the same LAN so the connection would need to go like laptop --> server --> My home PC
[11:15] <NixGeek> ooph: I don't have problems with vlc or teamspeak, I got problems routing sound.  And I've look at google, _r00t_ , I do check these things
[11:15] <Dave-Maydew> I've tried everything to get my GeForce FX5700 in my Sony VGC-V2M working on Ubuntu 11.10 and it just doesn't want to play, any ideas?
[11:15] <NixGeek> Now can someone help me or will people just keep trolling me?
[11:15] <_r00t_> NixGeek: you have week google fu - look again
[11:15] <brontosaurusrex> NixGeek, maybe there is some sort of virtual audio hardware for ubuntu that you can use, other way would be to run everything virtualized (like in virtualbox) or the the teamspeak api
[11:15] <Daghdha> mixgeek: perhaps a vmachine with virtual soundcard would be a solution
[11:16] <_r00t_> NixGeek: the answers are out there.... I didn't get my problems solved from this channel
[11:16] <szal> _r00t_: which is the exact reason why pointing people to Google is discouraged in this channel
[11:16] <NixGeek> brontosaurusrex: I've tried looking for an ubuntu virtualaudio cable but haven't really found much...
[11:16] <szal> at least without a hint as to what to look for, that is
[11:16] <phlak_user> NixGeek: if you're up to it, you can download the source of the windows addon and see if you can build a linux addon -> http://sites.google.com/site/stezzz/ts3musicbot
[11:16] <ooph> NixGeek: http://forum.teamspeak.com/showthread.php/52809-Tutorial-How-to-stream-Sounds-from-System-into-TS
[11:16] <szal> Daghdha: define 'everything'
[11:17] <szal> erm, Dave-Maydew, I wanted to say
[11:17] <ooph> and that link is from a post i found at www.google.com/search?q=teamspeak+music+bot+ubuntu
[11:17] <allu2> _r00t_: instead of saying one can't use google, you can show how and actually help someone.
[11:17] <odedkarp> hello
[11:17] <ooph> the *first* response.
[11:18] <_r00t_> allu2: thanks but it's my rest day. Spend all week help dimwits
[11:18] <Sidewinder1> Nick recognition fail; @ szal. ;-)
[11:18] <Dave-Maydew> So, is this a bug in 11.10 for nVidia cards or just some freak bug a few Ubuntu users have found?
[11:18] <szal> Sidewinder1: no, tab completion fail ;)
[11:18] <NixGeek> ooph: I really have to ask, is this an ubuntu support channel or a windows support channel?  Did you even READ IT! I've looked at that exact page before
[11:18] <szal> Dave-Maydew: define 'this'
[11:18] <Sidewinder1> szal, A poor workman always blames his/her tools. :D
[11:19] <phlak_user> NixGeek: short answer, there is nothing in the official Ubuntu repos that can help you achieve what you need
[11:19] <ooph> http://forum.teamspeak.com/showpost.php?p=211055&postcount=7
[11:19] <Daghdha> szal: nvm, already started raid check/repair.
[11:19] <allu2> _r00t_: ;) telling people they should google better just gets them frustrated and doesn't really give the "This community is great!" experince :P
[11:19] <ooph> try that one, but with critical thinking skills
[11:19] <darth_alakazam> hi, where can i find Xubuntu help channel? im new
[11:19] <odedkarp> I upgraded my ubuntu to 11.10 and my vba express gone mad
[11:19] <ooph> darth_alakazam: #xubuntu ?
[11:19] <szal> Daghdha: sorry, didn't mean to address you
[11:20] <szal> darth_alakazam: you've been told already
[11:20] <_r00t_> allu2: if the community is great - let me troll - let me enjoy my time
[11:20] <Dave-Maydew> on both LiveCD and upgrade to 11.10 the desktop is total grey and where the terrible thing called unity is supposed to be, it's a cut out, and I cannot see anything on the desktop at all
[11:20] <_r00t_> lol
[11:20] <allu2> _r00t_: :P like going to your work for vacation? :P
[11:20] <Dave-Maydew> and I'm apparently not the only one that has this issue
[11:20] <NixGeek> ooph: Okay, I think I'll leave no, no one is being even slighly helpful.
[11:20] <allu2> missed it :(
[11:20] <allu2> anyone need help?
[11:21] <odedkarp> I upgraded my ubuntu to 11.10 and my vba express gone mad
[11:21] <Dave-Maydew> Yeah I would like to get Ubuntu 11.10 to work with the Nvidia drivers
[11:21] <Dave-Maydew> but it's not having it
[11:22] <odedkarp> I upgraded my ubuntu to 11.10 and my vba express graphic gone mad
[11:22] <szal> Dave-Maydew: is that using the nouveau driver?  if so, try the proprietary driver -> sudo apt-get install nvidia-173 && sudo nvidia-xconfig <- then reboot..  but honestly I don't have too much hope for that w/ your gfx card; the 173 driver required for the GeForce FX series has a shader bug that e.g. causes the screen on KDE to stay black with desktop effects enabled
[11:22] <Dave-Maydew> tried it
[11:22] <ooph> Nixgeek: http://forum.teamspeak.com/showthread.php/54646-Music-Bot-on-Linux-Dedi-V-Server-available
[11:22] <Dave-Maydew> Unity seems to have screwed things up badly
[11:22] <odedkarp> I upgraded my ubuntu to 11.10 and my vba express graphic gone mad\
[11:22] <ooph> bummer, he left. too bad he was so impatient.
[11:23] <allu2> ooph: they so often are :(
[11:23] <szal> Dave-Maydew: and that bug is nothing the *buntu devs can do anything about, you'd have to poke nVidia to have that fixed, and they're unlikely to do that unless that involves a security risk
[11:23] <odedkarp> I upgraded my ubuntu to 11.10 and my vba express graphic gone mad
[11:23] <Thelmaria> !repeat | odedkarp
[11:23] <szal> Dave-Maydew: because the FX series is classified as legacy
[11:24] <Dave-Maydew> so when you mean legacy??
[11:24] <szal> odedkarp: how about providing some details?
[11:24] <Dave-Maydew> do I download the driver from Nvidia?
[11:24] <Dave-Maydew> or throw my only Desktop in the bin or go back to Winblow?
[11:25] <allu2> Dave-Maydew: am i missing something or doesn't jockey-gtk work?
[11:25] <szal> Dave-Maydew: the proprietary nVidia driver is in the standard installation sources; I told you the name
[11:25] <Dave-Maydew> nope, I see nothing other than a grey screen and a cut out where Unity is supposed to be
[11:25] <szal> Dave-Maydew: if you want better performance, upgrade your graphics card to a GF6 or newer
[11:26] <allu2> Dave-Maydew:  what kind of card you have?, unity doesn't work? how about unity 2d?
[11:26] <Dave-Maydew> I can't upgrade the GFX Card, it's a All-In-One Sony Vaio VGC-V2M
[11:26] <szal> Dave-Maydew: then you're s*** out of luck
[11:26] <ooph> Dave-Maydew: try adding nomodeset to the boot line. gimme a sec, i'll find you a tutorial
[11:26] <szal> ooph: that won't fix anything
[11:27] <tdn> Where do I get the ubuntu netboot image?
[11:27] <tdn> Install via PXE boot.
[11:27] <allu2> szal: i got image he doesn't even have working desktop now
[11:27] <allu2> szal: nomodeset can fix that and ease up fixing things
[11:27] <szal> allu2: he doesn't have a working Unity, but, as I understand it, can see graphics
[11:28] <ooph> szal: if you aren't using the accelerated graphics drivers, then you won't encounter the "black box" bug, eh?
[11:28] <Dave-Maydew> I can see something
[11:28] <allu2> Dave-Maydew: you tried installing drivers via the GUI tool jockey-gtk
[11:29] <Dave-Maydew> can't see anything on the grey screen
[11:29] <szal> ooph: I suppose so, on my other machine I just disabled desktop effects in KDE
[11:29] <ooph> Dave-Maydew: try http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=11398153 for a permanent solution, if my next sentence resolves your issue
[11:29] <allu2> Dave-Maydew: so i would go with the nomodeset thingy
[11:30] <ooph> boot from the livecd and press F6. select the "nomodeset" option
[11:30] <ooph> alternatively...
[11:31] <ooph> at the grub prompt, press "e"... then add "nomodeset" to the line that starts with "linux /boot/vmlinuz..."
[11:31] <ooph> press ctrl-X to boot
[11:31] <Dave-Maydew> so nomodeset how to I set it?
[11:31] <szal> ooph: on the live CD you can select 'nomodeset' by ticking a box (w/ the space bar)
[11:32] <ooph> zomg. i just told you.
[11:32] <ooph> here, Dave-Maydew: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=11398153
[11:32] <Dave-Maydew> sorry, screen is going to quick
[11:32] <Dave-Maydew> ahh its in the link
[11:32] <Dave-Maydew> cheers
[11:32] <ooph> you're welcome
[11:32] <Dave-Maydew> sorry for being a total pain
[11:32] <ooph> no, it's cool
[11:33] <starlon> is there any quick way to install common dev tools other than cotton picking?
[11:33] <ooph> you're actually better than a lot of the dweebs that come in, ask a question, then while we're googling the answer for them, they leave in a huff because we didn't jump right up and placate them
[11:33] <szal> starlon: define 'common dev tools'
[11:33] <Dave-Maydew> I shall give it a try this afternoon, and keep fingers crossed
[11:33] <ooph> good luck, dave
[11:33] <starlon> szal: automake, bison, gcc, gcc++
[11:33] <starlon> stuff like that
[11:34] <szal> if it's not in build-essential already, then no
[11:34] <Dave-Maydew> I have the patience, and I love Ubuntu/Linux so it goes hand in hand
[11:34] <Dave-Maydew> ;-)
[11:34] <starlon> sza1: build-essentials - that's what I what I wanted.. :)
[11:34] <szal> starlon: singular ;)
[11:34] <starlon> oh :)
[11:55] <dr_willis> starlon:  and theres the build-dep option to apt
[11:57] <shaun_> hi people, i selected restart. the screen is blurred but nothing else happens
[11:57] <conntrack> anyone using a gps time source for an ntp server?
[11:58] <sskniranjan> 946
[11:59] <shaun_> can i shutdown kubuntu with the terminal?
[11:59] <ooph> conntrack: why would you want to?
[11:59] <ooph> not attacking... i'm genuinely curious
[11:59] <dr_willis> shutdown command,  shaun_  may do it.
[12:00] <shaun_> it says shutdown: time expected
[12:00] <ooph> shaun_: shutdown -h now
[12:00] <Laserr> shaun_: "sudo halt"
[12:00] <ooph> shaun_ : you'll need to use sudo
[12:00] <ooph> alternatively, "shutdown -r now" will make it reboot
[12:01] <dr_willis> looks like he got it.
[12:01] <ooph> ./giggle
[12:05] <nixxofugi> sudo apt-get remove dmraid
[12:05] <ooph> if you're running a fakeraid motherboard, that is a bad plan.
[12:05] <ooph> also, i think i missed the question to go with that answer
[12:06] <szal> looks more like a case of wrong window ;)
[12:06] <nixxofugi> actually i asked the question last night, about 9 hours ago...
[12:06] <nixxofugi> no one had an answer unfortunately. figured i'd post my findings ;-)
[12:07] <ooph> excellent, glad you resolved your issue. can you enlighten us as to which question that was the answer?
[12:08] <bekks> Jeopardy ;)
[12:08] <dr_willis> post the question and answer on askubunt.com :)
[12:08] <dr_willis> askubuntu.com
[12:09] <dokg> hi
[12:09] <conntrack> ooph: sync my devices
[12:09] <conntrack> ooph: but not over the internet
[12:09] <dokg> I downloaded the ubuntu-11.10-desktop-i386.iso. I notie it's 711 Mg, How do I burn it on a CD for boot as the limit is 700 Mb ?
[12:10] <Laserr> dokg: Your CD can hold a little more than 700MB.
[12:10] <szal> dokg: enable overburn
[12:10] <Laserr> !md5sum | dokg
[12:10] <Laserr> dokg: Check to make sure your download is 100% good.
[12:11] <Sidewinder1> dokg, In addition to Md5sum and burning at the slowest speed, this site should answer all of your questions: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/index
[12:12] <dokg> thank you all
[12:13] <Sidewinder1> :D
[12:14] <Atlantic777> Hi! I've got some circular dependencies or somewhat. When I try to install gmsh there's this error: http://paste.lugons.org/show/cOy3ND4IOGtSUf52J0la/
[12:14] <Atlantic777> then I try to install libmed1 and here's what happens: http://paste.lugons.org/show/4WhLoKYjB5Cm3PRuVjkm/
[12:15] <dr_willis> you could try somthing similer to sudo apt-get install gmsh libmed1            on the samew line
[12:15] <lapion> anyone know where the petition site is to get the old desktop back  ?
[12:15] <jrib> Atlantic777: so you have no ideas or guesses as to why you are having this problem?
[12:15] <dr_willis> lapion:  you mean gnome2? thats a dead project.. theres some fork of it..
[12:16] <andrew_> i want to install a program but it says "another application seems to be using the package system at this time". what am i doing wrong?
[12:16] <jrib> Guest95802: maybe you have update-manager going
[12:16] <Atlantic777> jrib: it's not my computer, I don't use ubuntu. Just wanna help my friend.
[12:16] <ooph> dr_willis: you mean #mate - i just watched them push a commit :)
[12:16] <jrib> Atlantic777: ask friend then if he has no idea or guesses as to why
[12:16] <Guest95802> jrib, and what should i do now?
[12:16] <jrib> Guest95802: let update-manager finish
[12:16] <dr_willis> you can only have one pacvkage maanger tool running at a time
[12:17] <lapion> andrew probably the package updater or some other package manager is active
[12:17] <Guest95802> jrib,  where can i see the progress?
[12:17] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[12:17] <rtr-> hi there, i search for an easy solution to help a friend, who sits behind a nat, using ssh. is there any quick/easy solution known? if needet, i have a server which i could use as "proxy"
[12:17] <jrib> Guest95802: is update-manager running or not?
[12:17] <Guest95802> jrib, i mean the progress until its finished.
[12:17] <jrib> Guest95802: if update-manager is running then look at update-manager
[12:18] <lapion> dr_willis, at the very least adding the old menu style to the current unity.
[12:18] <dr_willis> rtr-:  not sure if that teamviewer app/service could to it or not.
[12:18] <roberto> buenas
[12:18] <dr_willis> lapion:  there allreadey are about 4 differnt ways to get the old style gnome menu into unity and gnome-shell
[12:18] <Guest95802> but where is the update manager?
[12:18] <dr_willis> lapion:  and a places menu item
[12:19] <lapion> dr_willis, tried em all none of them work..
[12:19] <dr_willis> lapion:  they seem to work fine for me.
[12:19] <roberto> hola
[12:19] <jrib> Atlantic777: what did your friend say?
[12:19] <Notes> Hello I'm following instructions from here (http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?s=e3528688c4312119d8364678fad04b28&t=1447592&highlight=WNA1100&page=4) and I get this error (http://paste.ubuntu.com/729027/)
[12:19] <roberto> hi
[12:19] <roberto> can you help me?
[12:19] <rtr-> thanks dr_willis, didnt know it exists for linux also, great thanks alot
[12:19] <dr_willis> got some classic-menu indicator applet that works decently well here.
[12:19] <roberto> who can help me?
[12:19] <dr_willis> rtr-:  i even have it on my android phone. ;)
[12:20] <szal> roberto: did you ask an actual question already?
[12:20] <Atlantic777> jrib: he really doesn't know what could it be. :D He isn't so experienced in linux and whole this stuff. :D
[12:20] <roberto> i need help with 'guadalinex'
[12:20] <bekks> !details | roberto
[12:20] <szal> roberto: wrong channel, we don't support that here
[12:20] <jrib> Atlantic777: ask him what he has done regarding the package system
[12:20] <bekks> szal: What is that guadalinex?
[12:20] <jrib> Atlantic777: while you ask him that, pastebin /etc/apt/sources.list*
[12:20] <roberto> i cant install flashplayer for mozilla
[12:20] <szal> bekks: a distro
[12:20] <bekks> ah ok.
[12:21] <lapion> I allready had modified my desktop and it has been looking slightly like unity for the past 4 years
[12:21] <roberto> i cannot install flashplayer for mozilla
[12:21] <Notes> Hello I'm following instructions from here (http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?s=e3528688c4312119d8364678fad04b28&t=1447592&highlight=WNA1100&page=4) and I get this error (http://paste.ubuntu.com/729027/)
[12:21] <bekks> roberto: And your distro isnt supported in here.
[12:21] <szal> roberto: again, wrong channel
[12:21] <jrib> !repeat | Notes
[12:21] <lapion> dr_willis, however I had full control what was in the bars, and I really cannot live with the huge icons..
[12:22] <roberto> szal whats the name of the channel which i must go?
[12:22] <jgeli> running Oneiric in gnome-shell. When I plug the laptop to the power cord it charges the battery for a while but later on the battery discharges again, This could be a bug in the power manager. Any ideas?
[12:22] <jrib> Notes: stop putting '%' in front of your commands
[12:22] <Notes> k ty
[12:22] <lapion> dr_willis, being able to run multiple instances of firefox with each their own profile is rather impI do not see how I am to find out wich of the 3 ff icons would be whichortant to me,
[12:22] <roberto> szal whats the channel of this?
[12:23] <roberto> what channel i must go?
[12:23] <szal> roberto: tried #guadalinex yet?
[12:23] <roberto> no
[12:23] <roberto> i try now
[12:23] <Guest95802> what is libc6-xen?
[12:24] <jrib> !info libc6-xen | Guest95802
[12:24] <roberto> i think anybody its in it
[12:24] <Touns> hello
[12:25] <salvatore> someone knows how can i capture streaming from rhytmnbox/lastfm and save it in mp3?
[12:25] <kuuhmuUbun> Hey i use empathy That !!! I want to add friend by people nearby ...it notting any thing ,, what i should do
[12:25] <Atlantic777> jrib: the friend says that it's fresh linux install, yesterday installed
[12:25] <roberto> hello who helps me with guadalinex, in his channel there isnt anybody
[12:25] <dr_willis> salvatore:  they streaming from some site?
[12:26] <szal> roberto: not here, for the 3rd time
[12:26] <jrib> roberto: this channel is only for ubuntu support
[12:26] <salvatore> no rhytmnbox player
[12:26] <roberto> szal
[12:26] <Atlantic777> jrib: sources -> http://paste.lugons.org/show/AIVHZlTnu40GeYgVto38/
[12:26] <oobiloz> eh.. have u set u?p accounts in empathy
[12:26] <roberto> in his channel there isnt anybody
[12:26] <roberto> -.-
[12:26] <jrib> Atlantic777: files in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ as well
[12:26] <dr_willis> roberto:  thats not our fault.
[12:26] <szal> roberto: not our problem
[12:26] <roberto> ok
[12:26] <dr_willis> sounds like a good reason to not use guadalinex
[12:27] <salvatore> i've been trying audacity but it is not much user friendly
[12:27] <jgeli> running Oneiric in gnome-shell. When I plug the laptop to the power cord it charges the battery for a while but later on the battery discharges again, This could be a bug in the power manager. Any ideas?
[12:27] <kuuhmuUbun> yes.. setup nearby.. it registry but,, it no people near me or room.
[12:28] <salvatore> someone knows how can i capture streaming from rhytmnbox/lastfm and save it in mp3?
[12:28] <lapion> dr_willis, being able to run multiple instances of firefox with each their own profile is rather important to me, I do not see how I am to find out which of the 3 to 5 ff icons would be which profile
[12:28] <roberto> i know you are stupid, you cant help the people, sure you are fat and you havent got friends, i fucked your mothe
[12:28] <roberto> mother*
[12:28] <roberto> bye bye bitch
[12:28] <oobiloz> .
[12:28] <FloodBot1> roberto: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:28] <dr_willis> lovely people we have today.
[12:28] <jrib> Atlantic777: « apt-cache policy libhdf5-openmpi-1.8.4 libmed1 » as well
[12:28] <enchilado> o_O
[12:28] <enchilado> Gosh.
[12:28] <jrib> oh we'll surely help you now...
[12:28] <szal> jrib: he helped himself..  out of here ;)
[12:29] <Sidewinder1> That was mature.. :D
[12:29] <ooph> well, *I* certainly found it helpful :)
[12:29] <salvatore> please any answer with recording audio streming?
[12:29] <Guest95802> my muon says "Could not download packages" if i try to download skype, whats wrong?
[12:29] <dr_willis> salvatore:  so what are they playing exactly? some other format music files?
[12:30] <escaped> hey, i have the following Problem. I have and using two Soundcards Audigy 2 ZS (PCI) and INTEL hda (onboard). I use the audigy as my main Soundcard. if i starting my system i can control the volume using the media keys (Audigy); but the 5.1 profile is not used (subwoofer is not playing) even if selected. So i have to reselect the 5.1 profile for the audigy. After this, 5.1 is used but i cannot control the volume of the audigy. The Media Keys are
[12:30] <salvatore> i want  capture streaming from rhytmnbox/lastfm and save it in mp3
[12:30] <dr_willis> !info streamtuner
[12:30] <dr_willis> salvatore:  you want to capture a web audio stream then? you are saying?
[12:30] <salvatore> i don't know what format they are actually playing
[12:30] <salvatore> yes
[12:31] <salvatore> but not from browser
[12:31] <dr_willis> the fact you are usin rythembox to listen to it.. is not imporntant. :)
[12:31] <salvatore> but from rytmnbox player
[12:31] <sport0> howdy, i'm trying to fix my bro's lappy, he tried to enable auto-login somehow - i managed to alt-f2 su user to login in has him but still getting nautilus error. how do i enable the password prompt during login without metacity?
[12:31] <salvatore> ok :)
[12:31] <dr_willis> other players can most likely also listen and capture it..
[12:31] <zabomber> interesting
[12:31] <salvatore> u got solution for that?
[12:32] <salvatore> i've been trying audacity but it is not much user friendly
[12:32] <JadedJacob> Pentium 4 2.4ghz + 2GB ram + 200gb harddrive, which ubuntu release should I go for?
[12:32] <dr_willis> !info streamtuner | salvatore  dident see this?
[12:32] <dr_willis> !info streamripper
[12:32] <salvatore> i did but was not workin fine
[12:33] <salvatore> i have ubuntu 10.04 lts
[12:33] <dr_willis> i recall other stream grabber apps in the repos.
[12:33] <dr_willis> !info tunapie
[12:33] <salvatore> i had a error message when i tried to run ti
[12:33] <salvatore> it
[12:33] <dr_willis> vlc can also grab many streams
[12:34] <salvatore> u mean i coud use vlc to capt strem from rytmnbox?
[12:34] <salvatore> tunapie neaver heared bout it
[12:35] <Guest95802> i installed skype with the sudo command. now i have to press ok to accept the EULA. how do i do that?
[12:36] <bekks> Guest95802: "I have to press ok to accept..."
[12:36] <bekks> Guest95802: Scroll down, press ok.
[12:36] <JadedJacob> anyone?
[12:36] <Guest95802> i cant press ok
[12:36] <Guest95802> i can just mark this because its in the terminal
[12:36] <brontosaurusrex> salvatore, example url?
[12:36] <bekks> JadedJacob: The latest.
[12:36] <xangua> Guest95802: with TAB
[12:36] <gxm> hi
[12:37] <Guest95802> ah allright, thanks
[12:37] <gxm> 大家好
[12:37] <salvatore> i havent got a url...i strem last.fm from rytmnbox
[12:37] <katyl> hi how can i check the power required by my graphics card?
[12:37] <salvatore> i suppose i do not have url
[12:37] <oCean> !cn | gxm
[12:37] <gxm> can you speak Chinese？
[12:37] <dr_willis> salvatore:  no you could use vlc to play the stream and record it...  you seem intent on capturing from  rythembox.. which may make things harder
[12:38] <zlszk> 中国人？
[12:38] <gxm> yes
[12:38] <salvatore> yes is exactly what i mean
[12:38] <dr_willis> salvatore:   the info/about stuff in rythmbox might give the stream url
[12:38] <jrib> Atlantic777: still there?
[12:38] <gxm> sorry
[12:38] <dr_willis> salvatore:  or the web site link may contain the url.
[12:38] <salvatore> ok i check ...one moment
[12:38] <Atlantic777> jrib: yap, waiting for the other side to acomplish the mission. -.-
[12:39] <jrib> Atlantic777: ok
[12:39] <dr_willis>  │      Guest95802 | jrib, i mean the progress until its finished.
[12:39] <dr_willis> oops//
[12:39] <dr_willis> missclicked
[12:39] <gxm> Iam Chinese
[12:40] <zlszk> 你好啊
[12:40] <gxm> 你会说汉语？
[12:40] <zlszk> 中国人呵呵
[12:40] <oCean> zlszk: gxm: english only
[12:40] <oCean> !cn | gxm
[12:40] <salvatore> no url in rytmnbox
[12:40] <zlszk> ok sorry
[12:41] <oCean> gxm, zlszk:   /join #ubuntu-cn for chinese
[12:41] <salvatore> would it work with a software that capture audio passing through audio card?
[12:41] <Somelauw> Okay, ubuntu's behaviour to use usb devices seems weird to me.
[12:41] <zlszk> sorry gym
[12:41] <gxm> ……
[12:41] <Somelauw> First of all there are bot directories /mnt and /mount in the root.
[12:41] <zlszk> ..
[12:42] <gxm> 不懂鹰语
[12:42] <zlszk> me too...
[12:42] <dr_willis> bbl
[12:42] <Atlantic777> jrib: moving forward. Sorry, he's slow. :D http://paste.lugons.org/show/MuGGYMmZiUJLAZFIXCTH/
[12:42] <scotty^> JadedJacob - Probably Xubuntu or Lubuntu
[12:42] <Somelauw> Second ubuntu's fstab doesn't handle usb devices by default.
[12:42] <zlszk> pingyin
[12:42] <Jonii> Hey, what's that non-graphical thing called that you can enter using F1-F7 keys?
[12:42] <jrib> Atlantic777: did you ask about the contents of files in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/?
[12:42] <gxm> 还有中国人吗？
[12:42] <Somelauw> And thirs, devices aren't mounted until you open nautilus (and it doesn't use fstab but mounts stuff itself).
[12:42] <zlszk> bu zhi dao a
[12:43] <oCean> gxm: stop it please.
[12:43] <Atlantic777> jrib: yap, waiting for that. But I think that it's empty.
[12:43] <gxm> 拼音……
[12:43] <oCean> gxm: /join #ubuntu-cn  for chinese
[12:43] <zlszk> hehe ta bu rang shuo zhonhwen...
[12:43] <elev> /n/n
[12:44] <gxm> 如何翻译？
[12:44] <zlszk> ge mer bie da zi le yao bei ping bi jiu bei ju le
[12:44] <bazhang> zlszk, stop that
[12:45] <Guest95802> i have problem with my microphone, my partner doesnt hear me
[12:45] <zlszk> bye i see you in ubuntu-cn
[12:45] <jrib> Atlantic777: I didn't realize you were dealing with two packages.  Also pastebin: apt-cache policy gmsh
[12:46] <scotty^> Jonii: Virtual terminals
[12:46] <gxm> Is it right? Sound?
[12:46] <Jonii> scotty^: okay, ty
[12:46] <scotty^> Jonii: VT's for short
[12:46] <salvatore> someone can tell me how to capture audiio streaming from rytmnbox/lastfm?
[12:47] <gxm> Ican，but……
[12:47] <amin`> guys how could i change the font of the taskbar and titlebar in ICEWM???
[12:47] <gxm> I can not speak English
[12:47] <bazhang> gxm   /join #ubuntu-cn
[12:47] <zlszk> gym come to ubuntu-cn
[12:48] <scotty^> Guest95802: Is you microphone un-muted?
[12:48] <gxm> OK，but Ican not
[12:48] <zlszk> why
[12:48] <elev> quit
[12:48] <salvatore> someone can tell me how to capture audiio streaming from rytmnbox/lastfm?
[12:49] <gxm> windows is ok？
[12:49] <zlszk> what irc you used ?
[12:49] <scotty^> salvatore:  We've told you how to capture audio streaming from lastfm.  Forget about Rhythmbox.
[12:50] <brontosaurusrex> salvatore, i cant even get lastfm working, so ...
[12:50] <salvatore> ok thanx
[12:52] <brontosaurusrex> btw, how do i nuke banshee database?
[12:53] <Atlantic777> jrib: here's apt-get policy gmsh, still waiting for sources.list.d http://paste.lugons.org/show/qFi1jquNG1kdrUSbDJH7/
[12:53] <Atlantic777> jrib: ok, sources.list.d/ is empty
[12:54] <szal> wasn't that apt-cache policy?
[12:54] <Jonii> Okay, a question, i pressed ctrl+alt+f1, and then I got into screen where it asked for a login, and when I pressed any keys whatsoever, it started flooding the terminal with lines like "couldn't write something because ecryptfs something [-5]"
[12:55] <Atlantic777> szal: yes, apt-cache, gentoo user here, I'm not really into those deb stuff  :D
[12:55] <Jonii> "error writing to the lower page" or something
[12:55] <tao24> hi there
[12:56] <skilz_> How do I change the theme/wallpaper of the login screen?
[12:57] <zlszk> system manager?
[12:57] <skilz_> zlszk: I'm using fluxbox
[12:57] <scotty^> brontosaurusrex:  Put it in your microwave oven :)
[12:57] <tao24> i'm having trouble with the jack connector of a ATI RV710/730 integrated sound card, managed with alsa snd-hda-intel : once the output jack is disconnected and reconnected, no sound goes through the output jack
[12:57] <tao24> any clue?
[12:58] <brontosaurusrex> scotty^, its showing tracks from my trashbin
[12:58] <m3asmi> can I send mail from command line with my gmail mail ?
[12:59] <Ycarene> So, wayland....
[12:59] <xangua> m3asmi: from a cli email client
[12:59] <m3asmi> xangua: yes
[12:59] <scotty^> brontosaurusrex:  What happens if you delete the files from the trashbin?
[12:59] <m3asmi> with command line
[13:00] <xangua> m3asmi: don't know cli mail clients, mutter¿¿
[13:00] <Ycarene> is wayland even stable enough to test?
[13:00] <scotty^> m3asmi:  Try PINE.
[13:00] <scotty^> !pine
[13:00] <_tr1gg3r> m3asmi, yes
[13:00] <m3asmi> scotty: ok I'm going to try ;)
[13:00] <_tr1gg3r> maybe mailx
[13:00] <Ycarene> !wayland
[13:02] <Atlantic777> jrib: ping
[13:02] <brontosaurusrex> scotty^, just deleted /home/b/.config/banshee-1/bansee.db and that was it
[13:02] <_tr1gg3r> brontosaurusrex, it is stored at ~/.config/banshee-1
[13:02] <brontosaurusrex> _tr1gg3r, thanks
[13:02] <_tr1gg3r> :)
[13:02] <m3asmi> scotty: pine is ALPINE ?
[13:03] <scotty^> m3asmi: ALPINE is an upgraded version of PINE.  I was about to suggest that you use ALPINE instead.
[13:04] <brontosaurusrex> this is one ugly player thought :)
[13:04] <plouffe> is VMWare (the free parts) better than Virtualbox on Ubuntu?
[13:04] <m3asmi> scotty^:thanks ;)
[13:04] <scotty^> brontosaurusrex: OK
[13:05] <scotty^> !alpine
[13:06] <enchilado> Interesting, somehow 'panel' appeared on the launcher
[13:06] <enchilado> when I closed it everything disappeared :(
[13:06] <m3asmi> scotty^:can mail command help me ?
[13:07] <scotty^> m3asmi:  I've never used the mail command and I don't know how it works.
[13:07] <_tr1gg3r> m3asmi, yes
[13:07] <m3asmi> _tr1gg3r:how ?
[13:08] <_tr1gg3r> m3asmi, mail can send mail from the  cmd line
[13:08] <llutz> m3asmi: you'll need a smtp-server or nullmailer to send mails with mail-command. check msmtp/ssmtp
[13:08] <m3asmi> _tr1gg3r: any documentation about it ?
[13:08] <_tr1gg3r> m3asmi, man mail
[13:09] <scotty^> What process do I follow if I want to get something added to ubottu?
[13:09] <llutz> m3asmi: http://www.absolutelytech.com/2010/07/17/howto-configure-msmtp-to-work-with-gmail-on-linux/
[13:09] <tao24> is it expected to have aptitude misbehaves after upgrade to oneric
[13:09] <tao24> ?
[13:09] <JadedJacob> Does 11.04 run well on a pentium 4 2.4ghz with 2gb of ram?
[13:09] <m3asmi> ooh thanks a lot guys ;)
[13:10] <JadedJacob> or should i install xubuntu/lubuntu
[13:10] <scotty^> llutz: that sound a bit complicated, and possibly an overkill, for someone who wants to use gmail.  Wouldn't ALPINE be a better solution?
[13:10] <llutz> scotty^: depends on real tasks. i'd prefer mutt, but ...
[13:10] <Notes> Hello I'm following instructions from here (http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?s=e3528688c4312119d8364678fad04b28&t=1447592&highlight=WNA1100&page=4) and I get this error (http://paste.ubuntu.com/729063/)
[13:12] <scotty^> JadedJacob:  U have plenty of RAM for 11.04 but your CPU may be too slow for normal Ubuntu with Unity.  You might be better off with Xubuntu 11.04 or the newly officially supported Lubuntu 11.04.
[13:12] <scotty^> !Xubuntu
[13:12] <scotty^> !Lubuntu
[13:13] <liram> was actualy wondering what people think of unity?
[13:13] <enchilado> I don't like it.
[13:13] <Kaspi> hey
[13:13] <llutz> !polls | liram
[13:13] <Kaspi> What's the multiverse repository deb line please?
[13:14] <liram> hey! I never said I hated or liked unity
[13:14] <BluesKaj> JadedJacob, you should be fine , a lot depends on your graphics capabilities tho.like desktop effects etc
[13:14] <Kaspi> for kubuntu actually
[13:14] <llutz> liram: "Do NOT take polls in the channel. If you insist on getting people's opinions, ask BestBot in #ubuntu-bots"
[13:15] <Notes> Hello I'm following instructions from here (http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?s=e3528688c4312119d8364678fad04b28&t=1447592&highlight=WNA1100&page=4) and I get this error (http://paste.ubuntu.com/729063/)
[13:15] <compdoc> Notes, none of your commands work
[13:16] <Notes> why
[13:16] <compdoc> they arent commands
[13:16] <Kaspi> What's the multiverse repository deb line please?
[13:16] <Notes> why
[13:16] <compdoc> what are you trying to do?
[13:17] <glebihan> Kaspi, there's no specific line, you just have to add multiverse at the end of the line
[13:17] <compdoc> install a wireless card?
[13:17] <TheCowboy> llutz, bestbot isnt there
[13:17] <Notes> compdoc:  i'm trying to do this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?s=e3528688c4312119d8364678fad04b28&t=1447592&highlight=WNA1100&page=4
[13:17] <Notes> first post on that p-age
[13:18] <llutz> TheCowboy: however, no polls _here_
[13:18] <Kaspi> glebihan: aha :) well then, what is the line for a repository containing skype, chrome and so?
[13:18] <TheCowboy> llutz, but where is bestbot
[13:18] <llutz> !partner
[13:18] <TheCowboy> !bestbot
[13:18] <llutz> TheCowboy: i don't care
[13:18] <dr_willis>  /msg bestbot are you home?
[13:18] <TheCowboy> llutz, u mad bro?
[13:19] <Notes> may I PM you compdoc ?
[13:20] <glebihan> Kaspi, I think skype is in the partner repo (deb http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu/ oneiric partner), I don't think chrome is in any official repo (chromium is though)
[13:21] <compdoc> Notes, ok
[13:21] <Kaspi> glebihan: thanks :)
[13:22] <glebihan> Kaspi, you're welcome
[13:23] <BarkingFish> afternoon guys :)  does anyone have the link on how to adjust the config of grub2 please?  I have removed a kernel image, but it's still appearing as default, and I want to change it. Thanks :)
[13:24] <sram> hey guys, I have broadcom HOWTO: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx and installed the proprietary drivers for my wireless card and they are active. I have a BCM4311. However, the device doesnt seem to be active. here's a paste of my lshw output: http://codepad.org/l2vS47gW and here is a paste of the ifconfig output: http://codepad.org/I6rlVCQw
[13:25] <sram> Someone please tell me how to proceed...
[13:25] <glebihan> BarkingFish, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2
[13:25] <BarkingFish> thanks glebihan :)
[13:25] <BarkingFish> I can't stop, but I'll drop in later - thanks for your help :)
[13:26] <sleepdead> i like this tutorial: http://www.dedoimedo.com/computers/grub-2.html
[13:26] <sleepdead> 'bout grub2
[13:27] <Andrewx> Hello, my system (Ubuntu 11.10) which has just been upgraded freezes at boot. It freezes when booting pulse audio.
[13:27] <Andrewx> Any idea what this could be?
[13:28] <danielig_> Hey, I have had a harddrive with lots of files on it was encrypted (on mount) and now I have formatted the drive and put my /home partition on it.I discovered, that I have not backed up some of the files on that drive. Any idea how to recover the data?
[13:29] <izinucs> After clicking on an "email support" link on a web page the system comes up with an Account Wizard to setup an email account on my laptop.. I don't need it's help or a stand a lone program but I can't exit the wizard.   How do I close it?
[13:29] <ooph> danielig_: wihtout spending literally thousands of dollars to a data recovery center? none.
[13:30] <JadedJacob> BluesKaj: I have a 128MB Geforce ti 4200
[13:30] <Atlantic777> libhdf5-openmpi depends both on libhdf5-mpich-dev and libhdf5-lam-dev, but the mpich and lam can't be installed together. What could I do after I fill in a bug report?
[13:30] <TrollsALot> !kiosk