[16:19] <stumar> Could someone help me please. I have just started to use Ubuntu & I like what I see, but having an issue with screensaver. I get a message when I start it , The xscreensaver daemon doesn't seem to be running on display ";o" I googled it & did what it said, but still get error message. What to do
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[16:20] <Pici> stumar: lsb_release -a
[16:21] <lolusux> ho, im using ubuntu mate and when i put my laptop in sleep mode it wont come back from it and the screen gets black and laptop gets very hot and i have to hard reboot, what could be the reason for this?
[16:21] <nomoney4me2> hi guys
[16:23] <curlyears> *sigh*/part #ubuntu
[16:23] <Pici> stumar: in a terminal. You should be able to press ctrl-alt-t to get to one if you can't find it on the menu.
[16:24] <Pici> lolusux, stumar: please repeat your questions, they probably got lost in the recent spam.
[16:25] <stumar> Could someone help me please. I have just started to use Ubuntu & I like what I see, but having an issue with screensaver. I get a message when I start it , The xscreensaver daemon doesn't seem to be running on display ";o" I googled it & did what it said, but still get error message. What to do
[16:26] <stumar> Pici: I went into terminal & typed what you said & it said No lsb command found
[16:26] <antiPoP> hi, I just upgraded to 16.04, and all the icons and menu items have disappeared from the xfce desktop. How can I get these back?
[16:26] <lolusux> im using ubuntu mate and when i put my laptop in sleep mode it wont come back from it and the screen gets black and laptop gets very hot and i have to hard reboot, what could be the reason for this?
[16:29] <ducasse> antiPoP: settings -> desktop -> icons -> icon type
[16:29] <antiPoP> ducasse, I dont't have a start menu working, no items there
[16:30] <ducasse> antiPoP: right click the desktop
[16:30] <antiPoP> ducasse same there
[16:31] <ducasse> antiPoP: then open a terminal and run xfce4-settings-manager
[16:31] <antiPoP> ducasse, it's empty
[16:32] <stumar> Pici:  I just opened my flash drive & it is 14.04, but yesterday It said there was an upgrade and so I clicked yes. So not sure now it it is 14.04 or 16.04.
[16:32] <ducasse> antiPoP: in that case something is seriously broken. ask in #xubuntu.
[16:32] <Pici> stumar: 16.04 upgrades from 14.04 are not being offered automatically until july, as part of the 16.04.1 point release, so it was probably just a regular system update.
[16:33] <antiPoP> ducasse, I already dis but no reply there. thanks anyway.
[16:34] <antiPoP> *did
[16:34] <stumar> Pici: ok. Well now that that is clear, can you help me with the issue of my xscreensaver & my  message about daemon doesn't seem to be running on display ";0"
[16:34] <ducasse> antiPoP: I have no other suggestions, I switched from xfce to i3 a while back.
[16:35] <antiPoP> np, thansk anyway
[16:35] <nicomachus> stumar: display ";0" makes it sound like someone put an extra character into the display name of the xscreensaver config
[16:35] <antiPoP> looking for this issue, seems related to bug 1509562 but the workaround there doe snot work for me
[16:38] <ducasse> antiPoP: xfce uses gtk, not qt, so that's not relevant. have you tried moving ~/.config/xfce4 out of the way and restart your session?
[16:39] <antiPoP> let me try...
[16:39] <ducasse> antiPoP: you might want to log out first and do it from a tty.
[16:40] <antiPoP> doing so...
[16:41] <wonko451> hello
[16:43] <ich_dien_> Aside from a cd, what is the safest place to get ubuntu?
[16:43] <ducasse> ich_dien_: ubuntu.com?
[16:44] <MonkeyDust> ich_dien_  http://www.ubuntu.com/download
[16:44] <ich_dien_> ducasse, yes but how SAFE are those downloads? Please indulge the paranoid
[16:45] <ducasse> check the checksum and gpg key
[16:45] <MonkeyDust> ich_dien_  what are you afraid of?
[16:45] <ich_dien_> ducasse, I know how to check the checksum but not gpgkey
[16:46] <ducasse> ich_dien_: there's a link to a guide on the download page
[16:47] <OerHeks> !md5sum
[16:47] <OerHeks> ich_dien_, so how safe is the pc you check the iso on?
[16:48] <ducasse> OerHeks: or the software you check it with, or the link you download it over, or... :)
[16:48] <Hesulan> ich_dien_: If you're *really* paranoid, download the image and checksum/gpg, check them, wait a few days, redownload the checksum/gpg, check them *again*, then google for news on "Ubuntu". If someone tampered with the official download or checksum/gpg, there will almost certainly be an article.
[16:49] <mcphail> Checking the md5sum only confirms the file is complete and intact. You must check the signatures to ensure it is from a trusted source
[16:49] <kasd> remove gksu of ubuntu 16.04?
[16:49] <nicomachus> kasd: what? no
[16:50] <nicomachus> do not remove gksu...
[16:50] <Guest19851> sup guys
[16:50] <kasd> nicomachus: ?
[16:52] <kasd> nicomachus: he no longer available ubuntu 16.04?
[16:52] <uddane> is Server 16.04 nvidia friendly? or do I need to wait till July for that one too?
[16:52] <OerHeks> !info gksu
 Are you saying that I need to take something out of that?
[16:52] <OerHeks> kasd, it is optional ( = not installed standard)
[16:52] <kasd>  Why is gksu no longer installed by default?
[16:53] <OerHeks> kasd, that has been policy for some time now.
[16:53] <kisb> uddane, its friendly
[16:53] <OerHeks> !info gksu trusty
[16:53] <Hesulan> uddane: nvidia is notorious for being not-linux-friendly, but I *think* I read somewhere that it 16.04 works on it, not sure about the server version
[16:53] <kasd> OerHeks: Now, how make me script works? kkk
[16:54] <OerHeks> kasd, install it?
[16:54] <kasd> OerHeks: 300 machines? kkk
[16:54] <OerHeks> kasd, so?
[16:55] <kasd> OerHeks: kkkk
[16:55] <kasd> OerHeks: okay bro
[16:55] <lyze> Hesulan, running nvidia drivers w/o problems here on 16.04
[16:55] <OerHeks> if one installs 300 machines, one must have heard of landscape
[16:55] <uddane> Hesulan: I've been fighting with FreeBSD for about 2 months trying to get the driver installed.. pretty much just need a server that can run a few tasks on my LAN...
[16:56] <Hesulan> I guess I should rephrase: nvidia is notorious for being not-open-source-friendly... apparently their proprietary *nix drivers are pretty good though
[16:57] <kasd> if [ "`id -u`" != "0" ] ; then gksudo $0
[16:57] <kasd> OerHeks: alternative front-end ?
[16:57] <OerHeks> !landscape
[16:58] <uddane> Hesulan: ok, now I'm wondering if I should stop trying to install the Freebsd package and just download and unroll
[16:58] <nicomachus> !info dsh | kasd this in addition to landscape
[17:00] <Baos> Still trying to figure out why an upgrade left me with no nivida driver
[17:00] <kasd> nicomachus: pay for that...
[17:00] <Baos> xenial from 3 days ago to xenial now
[17:01] <kltrg> I’m trying to set up VNC on a computer I can only access via SSH. I’m using x11vnc but the connection fails. I suspect the X server not running (correctly) on the distant computer since it used to be a Ubuntu Server. I installed gnome and xinit and ran startx. How can I check if the X server is indeed up and running?
[17:01] <kasd> nicomachus: version for free?
[17:01] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> hello
[17:02] <compdoc> kltrg, which gnome? not all are compatible with vnc or xrdp or x2go
[17:02] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> i'm trying to make a live disk.  I want to check the iso.. i'm using sha256sum.exe for windows but i'm getting a different hash
[17:02] <kltrg> gnome-session-fallback on Ubuntu 12.04
[17:02] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> probably not doing it right
[17:03] <uddane> OK I'm on 14.04 waiting for July to upgrade to 16.04 -- why am I being prompted to download updates off a 16.04 CD? errors out every time, even when I put the CD in the drive (I have already upgraded my laptop, that's why I have a CD)
[17:03] <nicomachus> uddane: just remove that source from your source listings.
[17:03] <teward> ^ that
[17:03] <teward> uddane: when the CD is inserted, the system checks to see what's on it briefly to try and ID the type of disk
[17:03] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> hey teward :D
[17:03] <uddane> nicomachus: ok, I'll wear the dunce hat... it never occured to me
[17:03] <teward> uddane: if it contains packages then it will prompt if you want to use it
[17:04] <teward> as a package repo
[17:04] <hnm> hi!
[17:04] <uddane> teward: that's what I thought too...
[17:04] <teward> uddane: so either remove it from your source lists, which you can do if it's in your sources list, or ignore the notice about it containing packages
[17:04] <iLembus> sometimes i can delete files using the ESC keys
[17:04] <iLembus> sometimes i cant
[17:04] <uddane> teward: but it till errors out, so I'll just remove the source
[17:04] <iLembus> when i can do it it shows "Move to trash" in the context menu ; when unavailable it just sais "Delete"
[17:05] <iLembus> is this expected ubuntu behaviour?
[17:05] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> can someone help me check this ubuntu iso?  I'd appreiate it :D
[17:05] <iLembus> when ESC key doesnt work other global hotkeys also stop working (i. e. Amarok music player)
[17:05] <teward> uddane: yeah remove the source, and hit "no" or "cancel" for the popups in the future
[17:05] <kltrg> compdoc, But even if gnome-session-fallback wasn’t compatible with VNC, would it matter? Doesn’t it fail prior to the desktop environment? "x11vnc was unable to open the X DISPLAY: ":0", it cannot continue."
[17:06] <nicomachus> kltrg: perhaps because the display should be named "0" not ":0"? or am I falling for this trick twice today?
[17:07] <antiPoP> ducasse, no luck
[17:07] <uddane> Thanks guys... updated like a champ!
[17:08] <kltrg> nicomachus, I ran the x11vnc command with -display 0 (instead of -display :0) and the result is the same. How can I check the X server is running and on which display?
[17:08] <ducasse> antiPoP: if you upgraded from 14.04 then you probably broke your install.
[17:09] <ducasse> ktosiek: ps ax | grep Xorg
[17:09] <antiPoP> ducasse, from 15.10, but I just hax xubuntu-base, not the full desktop
[17:11] <ducasse> antiPoP: well, your system sounds broken to me. you could try to reinstall xubuntu-core.
[17:11] <nicomachus> kltrg: sorry, I can't help beyond that. I just use ssh with the -X option if I need a graphical display.
[17:11] <kltrg> nicomachus, Thanks nevertheless.
[17:12] <kltrg> Is someone here to help with checking if I got the installation of X on Ubuntu Server right?
[17:12] <rantic> huh?\
[17:12] <OerHeks> kltrg, ps -ef | grep X   and look for a process just named "X" / or run "xdpyinfo" and see if it returns an zero
[17:13] <antiPoP> ducasse, how do I reinstall xubuntu minimal
[17:13] <antiPoP> ?
[17:13] <Kubius> Hello
[17:13] <rantic> kltrg: I'm late to the party but during the installation did you consult https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ServerGUI ?
[17:13] <ducasse> antiPoP: apt-get install --reinstall xubuntu-core
[17:13] <antiPoP> that onlu reisntall a package
[17:13] <OerHeks> some make funny lines > pidof X && echo "yup X server is running"
[17:13] <Kubius> I'm having a somewhat hard to find issue
[17:13] <rantic> kltrg: I guess the only 2 packages you'd want are xorg and xauth
[17:14] <Kubius> [   22.521156] dell_smm_hwmon: unable to get SMM Dell signature
[17:14] <antiPoP> in tasksel there is a metapackage, xubuntu-minimal-install
[17:14] <Kubius> every time I start up, that message pops up
[17:14] <Kubius> from what I've read I think that means the system is unable to control the fans
[17:14] <kltrg> OerHeks, ps doen’t give me an Y process and xdpyinfo gives me "xdpyinfo:  unable to open display ""."
[17:14] <Kubius> I'm trying to get this machine error-free before the weekend, and I have no idea how to resolve the issue
[17:15] <ducasse> kltrg: ps ax | grep Xorg
[17:15] <antiPoP> sudo apt-get install xubuntu-core^
[17:15] <MonkeyDust> OerHeks  pidof shows the same as pgrep
[17:15] <kltrg> ducasse,  3110 pts/2    S+     0:00 grep --color=auto Xorg
[17:16] <ducasse> kltrg: then X isn't running.
[17:17] <kltrg> ducasse, How can I start it? startx doesn’t give me error messages
[17:17] <ducasse> kltrg: errors would probably be in the X log file.
[17:17] <genii> Kubius: Can you manually load the module with: sudo modprobe dell_smm_hwmon force=1   ..after it's booted?
[17:18] <genii> work, afk
[17:18] <kltrg> Oh! I just found this process in ps "root      3939  3938  4 19:17 tty7     00:00:00 /usr/bin/X -nolisten tcp :0 -auth /tmp/serverauth.M6bJEx1khc" Is this the X process you were looking for?
[17:18] <ducasse> kltrg: yes, that's an X server.
[17:19] <Kubius> genii: Ran command, [  516.289372] dell_smm_hwmon: unable to get SMM Dell signature
[17:20] <kltrg> ducasse, I can’t find suspicious entries in the Xorg log file.
[17:21] <ducasse> kltrg: why do you need X locally on a server when you can run X programs over SSH?
[17:22] <kltrg> ducasse, I’d like to install a desktop environment on that server and access it via the network.
[17:23] <kltrg> Here is my Xorg.0.log: http://pastebin.com/TkgpAYAh
[17:23] <genii> Kubius: Looks like thats a sub-module of i8k module. Try loading that one with the force=1
[17:23] <ducasse> kltrg: your funeral ;) you can set up lightdm to start X and a VNC server for you, you know. that way you log in over the LAN via VNC.
[17:24] <Kubius> genii: tried "sudo modprobe i8k force=1", tried finding i8k in dmesg, nothing showed up
[17:24] <kltrg> ducasse, Sorry but I don’t understand. VNC is new to me. What would be your approach?
[17:25] <kltrg> ducasse, Sorry, I have to leave quickly. Can I come back to you? Are you here frequently?
[17:25] <ducasse> kltrg: set up lightdm as I said. if you hang on I can look for an example file I used to use.
[17:25] <qwtq> hola'
[17:26] <ducasse> kltrg: I'll be here a couple of hours now and again tomorrow.
[17:26] <kltrg> ducasse, Great. Let’s talk again then. I really appreciate your help.
[17:26] <ducasse> kltrg: I'll look for my example file for you.
[17:26] <qwtq> alguien que hable español?
[17:26] <kltrg> Thanks. Bye.
[17:27] <qwtq> help?
[17:27] <nacc> !ask | qwtq
[17:28] <ducasse> cd -
[17:30] <genii> Kubius: Does: lsmod | grep i8k   ...show a result?
[17:30] <Kubius> No
[17:30] <genii> Apologies on lag, work is quite busy today :-/
[17:31] <OerHeks> no apologies needed, genii, we are glad you have work :-)
[17:32] <therealtbe> is there a way to limit my upload speed?
[17:34] <ducasse> therealtbe: tc ?
[17:34] <iLembus> Sometimes i can delete files using the ESC keys and sometimes i cant
[17:34] <iLembus> when i can do it it shows "Move to trash" in the context menu ; when unavailable it just sais "Delete".
[17:34] <iLembus> Is this expected ubuntu behaviour?
[17:34] <iLembus> ESC key doesn't work other global hotkeys also stop working (i. e. Amarok music player)
[17:37] <iLembus> yea ok it seems to be a problem with trash folder owner
[17:37] <iLembus> i'll just chown that thing to me
[17:37] <genii> Kubius: Looks like bug 1509578
[17:38] <Kubius> genii: so I'm pretty much just screwed?
[17:38] <genii> Kubius: Your system does boot though, yes?
[17:38] <Kubius> Yes, it does
[17:39] <Kubius> I just don't know it has any ability to throttle up its fans in response to thermals
[17:39] <Kubius> or... even check the thermals
[17:39] <Kubius> and I'm concerned about this because I'm supposed to be giving this box to someone else soon
[17:39] <Kubius> who is only just apt enough to use Linux
[17:40] <genii> Kubius: Looks like there's also a few bugs against the i8k module filed at kernel.org, so a deeper issue seems to be at work here across different linux
[17:40] <Kubius> mmk
[17:41] <genii> Kubius: For instance, https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=100121
[17:41] <Kubius> I repasted the CPU recently, so hopefully it'll do OK despite the lack of fan throttle control
[17:42] <Kubius> well
[17:42] <Kubius> I'ma shove off
[17:42] <Kubius> bye
[17:47] <ipatrol> I'm trying to get the printing functions on a Canon PIXMA MG6300 to work
[17:47] <ipatrol> On 64 bit xenial
[17:48] <VickyAlee> hey all
[17:48] <rfleming> Hey VickyAlee
[17:50] <chromesettings> join
[17:50] <deus_> hi guys. got a little problem and maybe the united penguin force can help me
[17:50] <deus_> got myself a fresh Ubuntu 16.04 install. I have a High DPI monitor so i wanted to have a greater mouse sensitivity
[17:51] <deus_> sadly i cant find that in the system settings.
[17:51] <deus_> under "mouse/touchpad" it only has the bar for double click speed
[17:51] <kristian_on_linu> hi all
[17:51] <deus_> anyone knows whats up with that ?
[17:51] <mcphail> deus_: that's a known bug which doesn't seem to get any love
[17:52] <mcphail> deus_: as a workaround, install the lxinput package, open the lxinput app and adjust the sliders
[17:52] <deus_> mcphail, so how can i get this changed ?
[17:52] <mcphail> deus_: there is a bug report somewhere. Think it is upstream in GNOME
[17:53] <deus_> ah thx man! will try it and get back to you
[17:53] <ducasse> deus_: or just use xset.
[17:53] <ipatrol> mcphail: upstream GNOME bug == teeth pulling exercise
[17:54] <mcphail> ipatrol: I suspect you're correct
[17:54] <kristian_on_linu> I use kernel 4.6.0-rc5 on Ubuntu 14.04.4 because I had some wifi issues
[17:55] <kristian_on_linu> this seems to fix the wifi, but I got a login loop so I installed LXDM ... I can now log in, but I don't really get a desktop, just a mouse pointer
[17:55] <deus_> mcphail, ducasse thx guys! helped out! does that little program now appear in the system settings or do i have to start it over terminal?
[17:55] <kristian_on_linu> how can I make LXDM start the default Ubuntu desktop (Unity?)?
[17:55] <deniljoseph> i cant install kde connect here is the error log http://pastebin.com/dJ5sNFQy
[17:56] <mcphail> deus_: your settings will persist across reboots, but you have to launch it again if you suspend/resume
[17:56] <ipatrol> kristian_on_linu: LXDM and Unity are two seperate DEs
[17:56] <nacc> deniljoseph: what version of ubuntu?
[17:56] <deniljoseph> 14.04
[17:56] <ipatrol> you pick one or the other, not one launches the other
[17:56] <deniljoseph> nacc
[17:56] <deus_> well that sucks...
[17:57] <deus_> so every time i shut down my pc i have to reset those settings? or only if i lock it down?
[17:57] <nacc> deniljoseph: are you using any PPAs?
[17:57] <ipatrol> deus_: unless you write a systemd script to launch it
[17:57] <ducasse> ipatrol: lxdm is a display manager, so that's wrong.
[17:57] <mcphail> deus_: shut down/reboot is fine. Suspend/resume and your settings will be temporarily forgotten
[17:57] <deniljoseph> whats that nacc
[17:57] <kristian_on_linu> ipatrol, no ... LXD*E* and Unity are ...
[17:58] <kristian_on_linu> LXDM is just the login manager, afaik
[17:58] <ipatrol> ducasse: I don't think lxdm is compatible with GTK/Unity though
[17:58] <ipatrol> kristian_on_linu: no, ldm is the login manager
[17:58] <deus_> ah ok.. well good that i dont suspend my main machien then ^^ but seriously.. how is THAt a bug that isnt a main priority? i can imagine new users instantly jmping ship because of something so basic being not there
[17:58] <nacc> !ppa | deniljoseph
[17:58] <mcphail> deus_: tell me about it
[17:59] <kristian_on_linu> ipatrol, login managers are/should be independent of DEs
[17:59] <ducasse> ipatrol: why on earth not? it just launches the X session.
[17:59] <deniljoseph> i dnt think so
[17:59] <ipatrol> kristian_on_linu: should be, not that they are
[17:59] <kristian_on_linu> lxdm is, as far as I can see
[17:59] <deniljoseph> nah i m not using any of these @ nacc
[17:59] <deus_> mcphail, ducasse thx again guys. at least i can now play "enter the gungeon" competentely ^^
[17:59] <kristian_on_linu> so the question is, how do I make it start Unity?
[18:00] <mcphail> deus_: problem is, most mice (and most of the GNOME devs' mice) are correctly detected and bring up the sensitivity settings. We are the unlucky few
[18:00] <deus_> mcphail really? its a roccat mouse 0o i thought those would have some of the best support
[18:01] <deniljoseph> nacc any solution
[18:01] <ipatrol> deus_: support is generally proportional to how many *developers* use a particular piece of hardware
[18:01] <ducasse> kristian_on_linu: I think you can specify the default session to start in ~/.Xsession or something similar
[18:01] <kyle__> So, anyone know how to get the modules for the other cpu-speed-governors on ubuntu 16.04?  Is my only choice to build them myself?
[18:02] <ipatrol> roccat is a gaming mouse, if I understand correctly.
[18:02] <deniljoseph> any one plz help i cnt install kde connect on my ubuntu 14.05 here is the error http://pastebin.com/dJ5sNFQy
[18:02] <nomoney4me_> hi all
[18:02] <deus_> mcphail, ipatrol yeah... thats one of the major backsides of developement that doesnt actually "sell" a product. say what you want about FOSS, but if the devs dont actually follow the philosophy to the letter.. it can become pretty sloppy in some areas =(
[18:03] <mcphail> deus_: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-control-center/+bug/1132063
[18:03] <deus_> i think i already stumpled across that report in a google search
[18:03] <nacc> deniljoseph: i just spun up a lxc container with trusty and kdeconnect seems to be installing fine
[18:03] <deus_> wasnt it from 2015 ?
[18:03] <nacc> deniljoseph: are you running stock ubuntu or one of the derivatives?
[18:04] <ipatrol> deus_: Red Hat does in fact sell a product, and support is their bread and butter, but unless you purchase support from Canonical, you're not going to get that
[18:04] <mcphail> deus_: 2013
[18:04] <deus_> ah yeah just looked
[18:04] <michaelrose> so will 16.04 or 16.10 support installing directly to zfs?
[18:05] <nacc> michaelrose: not 16.04
[18:05] <nacc> michaelrose: i assume "installing directly" you mean as the root fs
[18:05] <michaelrose> nacc, yes
[18:05] <nacc> michaelrose: i don't think anything has been declared as to 16.10
[18:05] <deus_> i kinda thought its already been put to sleep since there was no comment younger than 2013. but i am not knowledgeable enough on the bug-patching process in gnome/unity
[18:06] <tgm4883> I don't think grub supports booting from ZFS does it?
[18:06] <nacc> tgm4883: i think it does actually
[18:06] <EriC^^> me too
[18:06] <nacc> tgm4883: well, not sure if ubuntu's does, but there is some guidelines online for doing it
[18:06] <EriC^^> it does for btrfs i think
[18:06] <michaelrose> I have a zfs root, ext boot
[18:06] <nacc> it's just not supported by ubuntu
[18:06] <ipatrol> deus_: latest comment was last week
[18:06] <mcphail> deus_: it is marked as "in progress". Might be worth poking the assigned dev
[18:06] <michaelrose> I think its now possible to have a zfs boot now too
[18:06] <nacc> tgm4883: but i really don't know
[18:07] <deus_> ipatrol, 0o really? mom maybe i oversaw that
[18:07] <mcphail> "You can always get me on IRC. Just highlight me and I'll usually see it. I will also respond to emails."
[18:07] <gumbo> so
[18:07] <gumbo> how do i make a partition  larger
[18:08] <gumbo> im on ubuntu 14.04 ive read some things but its still unclear
[18:08] <deus_> ipatrol, mcphail OH! the comments are in descending order! dont see that oiften 0o
[18:08] <mcphail> deus_: best way. Top posting is evil
[18:08] <ipatrol> deus_: that's typical for bugtrackers
[18:09] <CarlFK> how can I install this package, but use the ubuntu repos for the dependencies, https://packages.debian.org/sid/voctomix-core
[18:09] <ducasse> gumbo: backup first, then boot from a CD or USB and use gparted.
[18:09] <deus_> ipatrol, mcphail well again im not that experienced with that progress ^^ and its still pretty uncommon. so a noob like me might get confused ^^
[18:09] <ipatrol> and imageboards, and forums, and mailing lists, and pretty much everything else that isn't Reddit
[18:09] <gumbo> alright=/
[18:10] <ducasse> CarlFK: gdebi
[18:10] <buntunoob> Anyone knows of a terminal that will log everything you write to it?
[18:10] <CarlFK> ducasse:  ive heard of that.  do I need to wget or will it take http://http.us.debian.org/debian/pool/main/v/voctomix/voctomix-core_0.3.1-1_all.deb
[18:10] <gumbo> that seems more like a personal keylogger buntunoob
[18:10] <ipatrol> buntunoob: ~/.bash_history
[18:10] <gumbo> ^
[18:11] <ducasse> CarlFK: you need to wget it.
[18:11] <buntunoob> gumbo, going through training, I'd like to have a way to go back to the shit I write.
[18:11] <deus_> ipatrol, mcphail well once again thank you guys! you helped me out a lot
[18:11] <nacc> CarlFK: dont' do that.
[18:11] <deus_> ipatrol, mcphail cya
[18:11] <CarlFK> lol
[18:11] <nacc> CarlFK: as in, don't install random debian .debs
[18:11] <mcphail> deus_: generally, sensible tech people post at the bottom of lists/emails. Allows you to keep reading things in correct order
[18:12] <buntunoob> ipatrol, tried that. Issue is that it takes me to the history of the machine I'm SSHed to :(
[18:12] <gumbo> you could do this
[18:12] <kyle__> CarlFK: The number of places I see curl <some random url>|sudo scares me.
[18:12] <ducasse> buntunoob: script
[18:12] <gumbo> like history >> file
[18:12] <michaelrose> basically latest version in funtoo which is 2.02-beta3 can support an exclusively zfs system so logically its feasible on ubuntu as well too bad its not supported in the installer because you lose a good bit of the benefit of zfs if you can't use it for your root fs
[18:12] <ipatrol> kyle__: https://curlpipesh.tumblr.com/
[18:13] <CarlFK> um.. i'm not sure this qualifies as random.   I kinda helped package it: http://layer-acht.org/thinking/blog/20160428-voctomix/
[18:13] <nacc> CarlFK: no, i mean if it's not pacakged for Ubuntu, then .... don't install a Debian .deb
[18:13] <nacc> mixing versions is not a good idea
[18:13] <nacc> CarlFK: fine, random was a poor choice of words, "arbitrary"
[18:14] <nacc> michaelrose: no, the point of zfs on ubuntu is primarily for data-storage, particular for lxc/lxd
[18:14] <buntunoob> ducasse, do I need to run 'script' only once, or does it have to be done in each individual terminal instance (tab), and each machine I SSH to^
[18:14] <michaelrose> really depends on your use case doesn't it?
[18:14] <ipatrol> kyle__: unfortunately, the reason why people do it is because in the absence of a single package manager, it's a very portable way to distribute software
[18:14] <CarlFK> nacc: not installing it is a worse idea.
[18:15] <tgm4883> Snaps!
[18:15] <ducasse> buntunoob: in each tab/terminal instance
[18:15] <nacc> tgm4883: :)
[18:15] <michaelrose> someone should make a very basic cli zfs installer wouldn't be terribly hard
[18:15] <nacc> michaelrose: there are online guides for how to do it
[18:15] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> help, i'm getting a different hash on my ubuntu iso than from their site.
[18:15] <nacc> michaelrose: just not supported
[18:15] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> any ideas why?
[18:15] <rfleming> BrAsS_mOnKeY, bad download
[18:16] <michaelrose> yep it would be super easy to turn a guide into a basic shell script
[18:16] <buntunoob> ducasse, gneh. Thanks!
[18:16] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> ok
[18:16] <tgm4883> BrAsS_mOnKeY: your download is broken. I'd feed it into a torrent and have that fix it
[18:16] <tgm4883> or zsync
[18:16] <kyle__> ipatrol: Yeah, but it's almost half-way acceptible for a dev box, but people suggest installing things to production that way.
[18:16] <kyle__> And it makes me cry.
[18:16] <BrAsS_mOnKeY>  tgm4883, how?
[18:16] <ipatrol> michaelrose: which, again, goes back to the curl-pipe-sh problem
[18:16] <nacc> michaelrose: let me just say installers aren't shell scripts :)
[18:16] <tgm4883> BrAsS_mOnKeY: which ISO is it
[18:16] <rfleming> nacc, they can be :)
[18:16] <michaelrose> but shell scripts can be installers
[18:17] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> 16.04
[18:17] <ipatrol> the thing about using a guide as opposed to an installer script, is that the end user knows, sees, and verifies each stage of the process
[18:17] <tgm4883> BrAsS_mOnKeY: are you currently on ubuntu?
[18:17] <CarlFK> what happened to the bash helper that would tell me what package something was in?  now I just get -bash: gdebi: command not found
[18:17] <nacc> rfleming: heh, ok, you got me. ubuntu's installer is not a shell script :)
[18:17] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> no
[18:17] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> win 10
[18:18] <ipatrol> it's time consuming and inconvenient, but it's secure as long as you have somewhat of an idea of what those commands do
[18:18] <michaelrose> CarlFK, you can do that with apt I thought
[18:18] <nacc> michaelrose: so, what i was trying to say earlier, was that hte "supported" use-case of zfs for ubuntu 16.04 is datastore. You can of ocurse do whatever you want ... but support isn't present :)
[18:18] <michaelrose> nacc, makes sense
[18:18] <nacc> CarlFK: command-not-found, iirc
[18:18] <tgm4883> BrAsS_mOnKeY: is the iso AMD64?
[18:18] <ducasse> CarlFK: I think it's called command-not-found. gdebi is in gdebi-core
[18:18] <rfleming> nacc, that's true
[18:18] <nacc> michaelrose: and hopefully as time goes on, things will get added for zfs
[18:18] <michaelrose> on another topic has any other distro not ubuntu based indicated they intent to support snappy?
[18:19] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> ye
[18:19] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> ss
[18:19] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> looks like sexting :D
[18:19] <rfleming> michaelrose, oracle has made (literally) billions on zfs, I think it's pretty good already :)
[18:19] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> ubuntu-16.04-desktop-amd64
[18:19] <tgm4883> BrAsS_mOnKeY: ok, then so you'll need to grab whatever torrent software you trust in windows 10, then grab the torrent file from http://releases.ubuntu.com/16.04/ubuntu-16.04-desktop-amd64.iso.torrent then open the torrent software, and the torrent file and "save" it in the same location as your broken ISO file. It should  (if it's decent torrent software)
[18:19] <tgm4883> check what is downloaded already and redlownload the broken parts
[18:19] <CarlFK> Setting up command-not-found (0.3ubuntu16.04) ...  ; juser@cnt3:/etc/voctomix$ gdebi ; -bash: gdebi: command not found
[18:19] <tgm4883> usually, i'd just use zsync, but IDK if there is a windows way to do that
[18:19] <michaelrose> rfleming, yep its great
[18:20] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> i did resume on a broswer download
[18:20] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> but it pieced it back together
[18:20] <rfleming> BrAsS_mOnKeY, whatever works for you
[18:20] <michaelrose> CarlFK, what you are looking for is apt-file
[18:20] <ipatrol> kyle__: to a point, running any software you found off the internet is insecure. Much of the security of Linux comes from package managers being a sort of walled garden.
[18:20] <ducasse> CarlFK: you need to re-parse the bash startup scripts
[18:20] <tgm4883> BrAsS_mOnKeY: a browser download doesn't checksum the file.
[18:21] <ducasse> CarlFK: or just log out and in again
[18:21] <michaelrose> apt-file update to update its database, then apt-file find somefile
[18:21] <rfleming> BrAsS_mOnKeY, you may need to re-download the image, or use a bit torrent client, if the browser download keeps failing
[18:21] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> i downloaded the is iso from ubuntu.com
[18:21] <CarlFK> \o/ The program 'gdebi' is currently not installed. You can install it by typing: sudo apt install gdebi-core
[18:21] <tgm4883> BrAsS_mOnKeY: so?
[18:21] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> this internet connection is so slow.. itd take too long.  Id rather try to torrent software.
[18:22] <ipatrol> otherwise you could get any id10t to run an installer script under sudo that is then free to put in a rootkit
[18:22] <nacc> michaelrose: two different things; apt-file will let you query the database of pacakge contents; command-not-found is a shell extension (sort of) that will try to lookup in the cnf database when a command is not found and tell you what pakcage provides the command
[18:22] <rfleming> BrAsS_mOnKeY, if you think that is best, then go ahead.
[18:22] <tgm4883> BrAsS_mOnKeY: yes, torrent is the better way to get it
[18:22] <michaelrose> both useful
[18:22] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> i'll try utorrent
[18:23] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> something about torrents make me suspicious. lol
[18:23] <tgm4883> the only way a browser download is useful is if your network blocks torrents
[18:23] <michaelrose> ipatrol, there always ends up being a tradeoff between degrees of security and convenience
[18:23] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> something about torrents that seems suspicious, rater.
[18:23] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> rather*
[18:23] <tgm4883> BrAsS_mOnKeY: no reason to be suspicious of torrents if you get the .torrent file from a trusted source
[18:23] <michaelrose> BrAsS_mOnKeY, only to the uninitiated torrents are heavily used to distribute free software
[18:24] <ipatrol> michaelrose: always
[18:24] <tgm4883> For linux ISOs, IMHO   zsync > torrent > direct download
[18:24] <michaelrose> it fits in very well with open source software because you are helping distribute the software you are benefiting from
[18:25] <michaelrose> its a very basic simple way you can give back a little
[18:25] <ipatrol> tgm4883: zsync is only better than torrents if you already have an older ISO
[18:25] <squinty> BrAsS_mOnKeY, http://www.ubuntu.com/download/alternative-downloads
[18:25] <nvms> didn't know about zync.. very nice
[18:25] <tgm4883> ipatrol: you mean you don't have a cron job that zync's the latest daily :)
[18:25] <nvms> zsync*
[18:25] <deniljoseph> naac i m running ubuntu 14.04 lts
[18:26] <ipatrol> tgm4883: no...
[18:26] <deniljoseph> nacc
[18:26] <nacc> deniljoseph: did you manually install any packages or anything?
[18:26] <deniljoseph> i m running ubuntu 14.04 lts
[18:27] <deniljoseph> i installed the bcm drivers
[18:27] <michaelrose> I always end up running a combination of distro provided software, software provided by alternative repo, software installed via language specific package managers eg pip and app provided addon system eg vim plugins and firefox addons, and a small ammount of stuff built by me
[18:27] <deniljoseph> nacc thts all i installed from the iso
[18:27] <michaelrose> if you think about it the ultimate attack surface is enormous
[18:28] <deniljoseph> and installed everything else from the app store
[18:28] <rubiksmomo> Any idea why I get a blank black screen for minutes until the login screen appears when using nvidia?   lightdm.log: http://paste.ubuntu.com/16226354/   x-0-greeter.log: http://paste.ubuntu.com/16226364/   x-0.log: http://paste.ubuntu.com/16226370/
[18:28] <Yamikan> ce génocide
[18:29] <BurntToast> Q: I have a remote machine whose HD has gone read only (cant sudo or su root).  Any thoughts on rebooting it without either?  I wonder be able to physically power cycle it for a few days.
[18:29] <nacc> deniljoseph: hrm, can you run `apt-get install kdeconnect libqca2 libc6 libkcmutils4 libkdecore5 libkdeui5 libkio5 libqjson0 libqt4-dbus libqt4-declarative libqt4-network libqtcore4 libqtgui4 libstdc++6` and do not say 'yes', but pastebin the output?
[18:29] <deniljoseph> nacc any idea
[18:29] <deniljoseph> k lemme run
[18:30] <nacc> deniljoseph: basically, i'm trying to tell apt to forcibly install the conflicting pacakges, and see what is actually conflicting
[18:30] <nacc> deniljoseph: apt won't recursively tell us by itself, unofrtunately
[18:30] <nacc> deniljoseph: but almost certainly it's something below it that's conflicting
[18:31] <deniljoseph> nacc here is the log
[18:31] <deniljoseph> http://pastebin.com/Uf9enxA1
[18:32] <deniljoseph> nacc
[18:32] <administrador> Hi. Has anyone succesfully instaled AMD's GPUPRO Beta drivers ? i can only get  so far: http://pastebin.com/xeDw3W7L Any idea on how to solve this? I am using Lubuntu 14.04 64bits
[18:33] <spupy> hi, does the ubuntu live CD include gparted? if not, can I install it while running the live cd? (well, usb, actually)
[18:33] <nacc> deniljoseph: ok, add 'kde-runtime' to the list
[18:33] <lyze> spupy, Don't know. Yes you can
[18:33] <tgm4883> spupy: no it doesn't, but yes you can
[18:34] <spupy> lyze, tgm4883: thanks for the answers!
[18:34] <lyze> spupy, if you boot into "try ubuntu" mode and not into "install mode" then you can use the terminal as usual (sudo apt-get install gparted) to install it c:
[18:34] <squinty> spupy,  usually includes gparted  don't really see why it would be excluded from the current release
[18:36] <squinty> spupy,  gparted is not part of the default full install though, so if you need it after installing then you will need to install gparted (using apt, apt-get etc)
[18:36] <rubiksmomo> Any idea why I get a blank black screen for minutes until the login screen appears when using nvidia?   lightdm.log: http://paste.ubuntu.com/16226354/   x-0-greeter.log: http://paste.ubuntu.com/16226364/   x-0.log: http://paste.ubuntu.com/16226370/
[18:38] <deniljoseph> nacc
[18:38] <squinty> rubiksmomo, Start a reboot and hold down the Shift key. Press the e key on getting the GRUB bootloader. Using arrow keys navigate to and delete quiet and splash. Press Ctrl and X at the same time to continue booting   that will give a test display of the boot up and you might be able to see where it is hanging then
[18:39] <deniljoseph> nacc
[18:39] <deniljoseph> http://pastebin.com/kGpf1bQQ
[18:39] <deniljoseph> more errors again
[18:39] <deniljoseph> :|
[18:40] <rubiksmomo> squinty, I have empty command line in grub file. Still just blank/black screen for 10-30min on every boot
[18:40] <arun_> Hello guys, please help me connect my bluetooth headset with my PC. I am able to connect but its not wokring
[18:41] <deniljoseph> nacc i gtg will look into this tomorrow bye tx for the help anyway :)
[18:41] <antiPoP> ducasse I fixed it thanks
[18:42] <ducasse> rubiksmomo: 'systemd-analyze blame' will show you what startup tasks takes a long time
[18:42] <ducasse> antiPoP: good, you're welcome :)
[18:43] <squinty> rubiksmomo,  maybe look for long time gaps in dmesg then.  dmesg | less  to page through it
[18:43] <rubiksmomo> ducasse, systemd-analyze: command not found. Running Ubuntu 14.04.4 LTS 64bit
[18:44] <rubiksmomo> squinty, Where's the time?
[18:44] <ducasse> rubiksmomo: oh, sorry, then. only available for >=15.04
[18:44] <squinty> rubiksmomo, 14.04 does run systemd
[18:44] <squinty> doesn't
[18:44] <squinty> rubiksmomo, on the far left
[18:45] <rubiksmomo> squinty,  dmesg: http://paste.ubuntu.com/16244618/
[18:45] <squinty> rubiksmomo,  sorry but I don't have the time right to be wading through dmesg
[18:47] <ducasse> rubiksmomo: looks like network configuration takes all that time
[18:48] <rubiksmomo> ducasse, Yes indeed. I have to wait for a long time for it to connect to my WiFi hotspot (which isn't always on)
[18:48] <Skizu> I'm getting 404 when trying to install mailutils
[18:49] <ducasse> rubiksmomo: well, you could set it up to not automatically start the network on boot.
[18:49] <rubiksmomo> ducasse, OK, how? And how do I start the network then?
[18:50] <Jordan_U> Skizu: Try running "sudo apt update" then try "sudo apt install package" again.
[18:51] <ducasse> rubiksmomo: you using network manager?
[18:51] <rubiksmomo> ducasse, I don't know. It connects automatically when it finds my WiFi hotspot (with delay up to 15min or so)
[18:52] <Skizu> Jordan_U: Thank you and wish me luck
[18:52] <hyper_ch> hi there, I have trouble installing mysql-server... it keeps aborting
[18:53] <ducasse> rubiksmomo: click the network manager applet, select edit connections, select your network id, general, uncheck automatically connect.
[18:53] <hyper_ch> https://paste.simplylinux.ch/view/8f5e9b3c
[18:53] <hyper_ch> also, why is the terminal in german when I have set the language to english
[18:54] <Skizu> Jordan_U: I have a simple webbox, need to send emails such as new user and such, not a dev ops guy really, but been thrown this job
[18:54] <Skizu> Would you be able to point me in the right direction
[18:54] <EriC^^> hyper_ch: did you log out and back in?
[18:54] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> ok i downloaded utorrent
[18:55] <rubiksmomo> ducasse, OK. So now the login screen should appear right away and I have to connect WiFi manually?
[18:55] <hyper_ch> EriC^^: no, but why did the terminal get german in the first place
[18:55] <EriC^^> maybe you installed with german locale?
[18:56] <hyper_ch> I did, but selected en_US.utf8 as default
[18:56] <ducasse> rubiksmomo: it should, yes, and you need to connect manually.
[18:57] <rubiksmomo> ducasse, I'll try it. Thanks.
[18:57] <ducasse> rubiksmomo: np. hope it works, I never use network manager myself.
[19:00] <arunpyasi> Hello guys, please help me connect my bluetooth headset with my PC. I am able to connect but its not wokring
[19:01] <ducasse> arunpyasi: is the package pulseaudio-module-bluetooth installed?
[19:01] <Rubiksmomo> There is still a long delay before the login screen appears, even I disabled WiFi autoconnect
[19:02] <Skizu> Rubiksmomo: That's due to network resolution
[19:02] <Skizu> Aka trying to resolve a network, the delay is the time out
[19:02] <arunpyasi> ducasse: yes, its installed already
[19:02] <Rubiksmomo> It has a 15min timeout?
[19:02] <Rubiksmomo> Or so
[19:06] <Rubiksmomo> Any idea how to avoid the 10-30min delay till the login screen appears when using nvidia?
[19:07] <ducasse> arunpyasi: maybe it's not loaded, or you need to enable the bluetooth output device with pavucontrol.
[19:08] <chrisml> how do i purge and remove the apt repo as in 4th para - https://launchpad.net/~mc3man/+archive/ubuntu/trusty-media ?
[19:08] <nick_name_123451> Is there an automated way to install windows after Ubuntu?
[19:08] <OerHeks> nick_name_123451, no.
[19:09] <arunpyasi> ducasse: I can see the bluetooth device there but it doesn't work
[19:09] <OerHeks> nick_name_123451, we suggest strongly to install windows first.
[19:10] <nick_name_123451> OerHeks, I already have a computer with an ubuntu install
[19:10] <squinty> chrisml,  should be able to use the purge command listed at the very bottom of that page
[19:10] <ducasse> arunpyasi: is it muted? that's the last suggestion i've got, sorry. try google.
[19:11] <chrisml> ducasse thank you. then apt-get update?
[19:11] <chrisml> sorry squinty not ducasse ;D
[19:11] <rajiv_> what is the command for completely remove a program?
[19:11] <squinty> chrisml,  yes run update after
[19:11] <chrisml> squinty ta
[19:12] <squinty> rajiv_,  sudo apt purge <package name>
[19:12] <OerHeks> nick_name_123451, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBoot#Install_Ubuntu_after_Windows
[19:12] <Skizu> Urg why can't I send mail god damn i
[19:12] <rajiv_> squinty: thank you.
[19:13] <OerHeks> !language | Skizu no need for that.
[19:13] <squinty> rajiv_,  check your home directory for left over files and use your file manager to delete them.  ie  .<package name>
[19:15] <Skizu> I cry all the time
[19:16] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> well.. i did the torrent thing but it still has the same sha256sum hash
[19:17]  * Skizu it was at this moment he knew... sending a mail is damn hard
[19:18] <ducasse> BrAsS_mOnKeY: did you say you were doing this under windows? if so, where did you get the checksum tool? could be bogus.
[19:18] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> online sha256sum.exe
[19:19] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> i think its legit because windows has built in program and it said the same thing
[19:19] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> certutil -hashfile (file)
[19:19] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> and it gives same hash so it must be correct
[19:20] <ducasse> BrAsS_mOnKeY: which image is this, and what checksum do you get?
[19:21] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> ubuntu-16.04-desktop-amd64
[19:22] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> 4bcec83ef856c50c6866f3b0f3942e011104b5ecc6d955d1e7061faff86070d4 *ubuntu-16.04-desktop-amd64.iso
[19:22] <Dumle29> anyone with some linux CAD experience? I'm in need of a program that can take a step file, and export it to dxf, with some specific settings.  DXF R14, lines arcs lwpolylines, and mm units.
[19:22] <ducasse> BrAsS_mOnKeY: that's what I get also.
[19:22] <SonikkuAmerica> BrAsS_mOnKeY, ducasse - what mirror?
[19:23] <Dumle29> I've yet to find some cad I can get to settings like that
[19:23] <bekks> BrAsS_mOnKeY: And whats the issue with that file?
[19:23] <ducasse> SonikkuAmerica: I grabbed mine from releases.ubuntu.com, no idea what that resolved to.
[19:23] <SonikkuAmerica> ducasse: nvm, I was looking at MD5.
[19:24] <SonikkuAmerica> SHA256 is correct.
[19:25] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> well.. im getting a different has from their site sha256sum
[19:25] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> hash*
[19:25] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> but apparently mine is good :)
[19:26] <rajiv_> Is it necessary to restart the computer after completely removed a package by using the command "sudo apt purge <package name>?
[19:26] <ducasse> BrAsS_mOnKeY: the file should be good, where on the site did you get the other hash?
[19:27] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> http://releases.ubuntu.com/xenial/
[19:28] <teward> BrAsS_mOnKeY: "their site"  <-- what "site" is this?  Are we talking about the hash sums on releases.ubuntu.com, or the hash sum generated by the tool you used online?
[19:28] <ducasse> BrAsS_mOnKeY: looks good to me...
[19:29] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> ubuntu, teward
[19:29] <lyze> rajiv_, normally not
[19:29]  * BrAsS_mOnKeY tases teward :D
[19:30] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> i'm getting fcb989c06b1631e621e02bd060c732baa22db319dc4eba88a22cd821cca31825 *sha256sums
[19:31] <teward> BrAsS_mOnKeY: why are you trying to sha256sum the hash sums file
[19:31] <rajiv_> lyze: How would i know if i need a restart after doing that?
[19:31] <teward> BrAsS_mOnKeY: your output there shows the hash sum of the sha256sums file - NOT the ISO
[19:31] <teward> BrAsS_mOnKeY: what tool are you using to generate that sum?
[19:31] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> two
[19:32] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> sha256sum.exe for windows and Certutil (built into windows)  Both give that hash
[19:32] <lyze> rajiv_, totally depends on the package. but if it's some small packages, apache2 or something more smaller then. you don't need to do a thing there. If it's for example something gui related, graphics card drivers. then you'd need to restart the x server... or simply restart the computer then c:
[19:33] <ducasse> BrAsS_mOnKeY: but that's the hash for the wrong file :)
[19:33] <teward> BrAsS_mOnKeY: you're checking the hashes on the wrong file
[19:33] <teward> BrAsS_mOnKeY: you need to generate a hash sum for the ISO
[19:33] <teward> NOT the 'sha256sums' file
[19:33] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> Well... i thought i did
[19:34] <tgm4883> BrAsS_mOnKeY: what's the exact command you use to hash the file?
[19:34] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> certutil -hashfile (file) sha256
[19:35] <tgm4883> BrAsS_mOnKeY: well if that's the command, you aren't hashing anything really. I'm thinking you need to replace "file" with the filename of the ISO
[19:35] <rubiksmomo> I'm running Ubuntu 14.04.4 LTS 64bit on HP Omen with GeForce GTX 960M + Intel. Any idea why I get a blank black screen for 10-30min until the login screen appears when using nvidia? Also takes ages for Ubuntu to detect&connect to my WiFi hotspot.  lightdm.log: http://paste.ubuntu.com/16226354/   x-0-greeter.log: http://paste.ubuntu.com/16226364/   x-0.log: http://paste.ubuntu.com/16226370/   dmesg: http://paste.ubuntu.com/16244618/
[19:36] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> and for the iso, sha256sum ubuntu-16.04-desktop-amd64.iso
[19:36] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> ad it gives the same hash that you have
[19:36] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> and*
[19:36] <teward> BrAsS_mOnKeY: rely on sha256sum and not certutil
[19:36] <tgm4883> BrAsS_mOnKeY: can you screenshot the output of that command?
[19:36] <tgm4883> I'm confused as to what you are saying
[19:37] <MonkeyDust> BrAsS_mOnKeY  what are you struggling with?
[19:37] <teward> tgm4883: MonkeyDust: he's getting different output of hash sums - sha256sum.exe shows correct, certutil shows wrong.
[19:37] <teward> but he's not using it right i believe
[19:37] <teward> for certutil
[19:37] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> MonkeyDust, matching the sha256sum from the ubuntu site with the iso sha256sum
[19:38] <tgm4883> teward: so sha256sum.exe shows the same hash as what's on the website?
[19:38] <MonkeyDust> BrAsS_mOnKeY  why is that important? are you experiencing issues?
[19:38] <teward> tgm4883: according to BrAsS_mOnKeY, yes
[19:38] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> teward, no sha256sum.exe and certutil so the same hash that is correct with tgm4883.
[19:38] <Bashing-om> rubiksmomo: Nother thought. From grub how long does it take to boot to terminal . And once in terminal .. start the GUI . errors reportd ? how long to GUI ?
[19:38] <tgm4883> ...
[19:38] <teward> BrAsS_mOnKeY: you need to be more clear.
[19:38] <tgm4883> BrAsS_mOnKeY: I want to see a screenshot
[19:38] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> but not with downloaded sha256sum from ubuntu.com
[19:39] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> MonkeyDust, wanting to burn a live disk.
[19:39] <Nitrigaur> I'm using two monitors. Can I tie a monitor setup (1 or 2 monitors active) to different user profiles?
[19:39] <Nitrigaur> Using Ubuntu 14.04
[19:39] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> no\
[19:39] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> different
[19:39] <bekks> Nitrigaur: No.
[19:39] <ducasse> BrAsS_mOnKeY: you were comparing the hash of the checksum file to the hash of the iso.
[19:40] <nuno_nunes> Nitrigaur, ubuntu 14.04 is not supported
[19:40] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> certutil, sha256sum.exe show what tgm4883 has but different from the site when I use command sha256sum (iso)
[19:40] <rubiksmomo> Bashing-om, seconds, I don't see any errors. It just asks for the encryption key and after couple seconds I hear the login sound. Then after 10-30min when I press some button the login screen appears.
[19:40] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> ducasse, yes.
[19:40] <tgm4883> BrAsS_mOnKeY: I'm done helping until I see a screenshot
[19:40] <bekks> Nitrigaur: 14.04 is supported until 2019.
[19:40] <tgm4883> bekks: I think you mjean nuno_nunes
[19:40] <rajiv_> someone please tell me the names of some decent download managers for ubuntu.
[19:40] <bekks> tgm4883: indeed.
[19:41] <Nitrigaur> Indeed it is :-)
[19:41] <bekks> rajiv_: wget
[19:41] <tgm4883> rajiv_: bittorrent
[19:41] <rajiv_> bekks: some gui based
[19:41] <tgm4883> firefox
[19:41] <bekks> rajiv_: start a terminal, run wget :)
[19:41] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> tgm4883, i dont know how to save pic
[19:41] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> lol
[19:41] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> :)
[19:41] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> lemme try to find paint on here
[19:42] <rajiv_> gekks:gui based like IDM
[19:42] <tgm4883> BrAsS_mOnKeY: use the built in screenshot utility?
[19:42] <bekks> rajiv_: I have no clue what IDM is.
[19:42] <tgm4883> BrAsS_mOnKeY: and copy and paste it to http://imgur.com/
[19:42] <Bashing-om> rubiksmomo: Ouch, again "
[19:42] <tgm4883> or whereever
[19:42] <bekks> rajiv_: Maybe you get used to the concept that Linux doesnt need download managers, as windows does.
[19:42] <Nitrigaur> Let me phrase my question a bit differently: Is it possible to switch between monitor profiles using a bash script? I'm using the proprietary driver of nVidia
[19:42] <rajiv_> bekks: internet download manager
[19:43] <tgm4883> Nitrigaur: what do you mean, "monitor profiles"
[19:43] <EriC^^> rajiv_: uget is what you wan
[19:43] <Bashing-om>  rubiksmomo "" encryption key " . I do know know what to expect in such an environment .
[19:43] <Nitrigaur> tgm4883, I mean different setups, as in 1 or 2 monitors active.
[19:43] <EriC^^> *want, also download aria2 as it can be integrated with uget for multithreading when it's needed
[19:43] <ducasse> BrAsS_mOnKeY:
[19:44] <ducasse> Nitrigaur: xrandr, maybe?
[19:44] <OerHeks> filezilla has got a nice GUI
[19:44] <MonkeyDust> Nitrigaur  maybe with 'xdotool'
[19:44] <EriC^^> rajiv_: also if you're using firefox install the flashgot addon so you can choose to use aria2c when clicking links or uget maybe
[19:44] <rubiksmomo> Bashing-om, I'd imagine it's same as unencrypted once decrypted. I don't think the issue is encryption related as I do hear the login sound and all.
[19:44] <MonkeyDust> Nitrigaur  with it, you can program key presses
[19:45] <Nitrigaur> MonkeyDust, ah, interesting... Yes, I can see how to may work. Thank you for the suggestion!
[19:45] <MonkeyDust> !info xdotool
[19:45] <Nitrigaur> to => that
[19:45] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> http://imgur.com/ge9xBvO
[19:46] <OerHeks> rubiksmomo, is this still your issue? rubiksmomo_>	Is it a problem that my nvidia-settings is version 364.15 but my nvidia is 361.42?
[19:46] <OerHeks> (from yesterday)
[19:46] <ducasse> Nitrigaur: try xrandr too, should be easier to script
[19:47] <rubiksmomo> OerHeks, Not sure if it's related to these delays with login screen and WiFi.
[19:47] <Nitrigaur> ducasse, unfortunately xrandr is not supported by the poprietary drivers of nVidia, otherwise it would be a splendid choice.
[19:48] <OerHeks> rubiksmomo, could well be, yes
[19:48] <rubiksmomo> OerHeks, Any idea how to solve it?
[19:49] <OerHeks> install the propper nvidiasettings, and remove the old one.
[19:49] <teward> BrAsS_mOnKeY: you didn't use the command right
[19:49] <teward> BrAsS_mOnKeY: or you have a bad ISO.
[19:49] <teward> BrAsS_mOnKeY: I just torrented the ISO from releases.ubuntu.com on my Windows 10 machine.
[19:49] <reisio> well, nvidia's proprietary driver has its own magical xrandr-like tools
[19:49] <teward> BrAsS_mOnKeY: I got matching hash sums from sha256sum.exe, certutil, and the Ubuntu site.
[19:50] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> which hash did you have?
[19:50] <bekks> BrAsS_mOnKeY: More interesting, which do you have? :)
[19:50] <teward> BrAsS_mOnKeY: http://paste.ubuntu.com/16245906
[19:50] <rubiksmomo> OerHeks, "sudo apt-get install nvidia-settings" just installs 364, even I have nvidia-361 installed. How can I install nvidia-settings version 361?
[19:51] <teward> BrAsS_mOnKeY: if your hash sums do not match these that I just provided, then your ISO is either bad or incomplete
[19:51] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> teward, but tgm4883 gets the same sum as me
[19:51] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> so the iso must be correct
[19:51] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> but the sha256sum method i'm using from the file from ubuntu is incrroect
[19:51] <tgm4883> BrAsS_mOnKeY: whoa, I don't even know what sum you have, nor have I told you what sum I have
[19:51] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> incorrect
[19:51] <teward> BrAsS_mOnKeY: show me the *Exact Commands* you ran.  THE EXACT SAME COMMANDS
[19:52] <teward> BrAsS_mOnKeY: becuase I believe you're using the wrong file to generate your hash sums.
[19:52] <tgm4883> teward: +1
[19:52] <MonkeyDust> BrAsS_mOnKeY  copy paste the command you use
[19:52] <teward> BrAsS_mOnKeY: and I know that any other hash sum is invalid, because I *just* took this exact same ISO, put it onto my Ubuntu 16.04 machine, and got the same hash sum as releases.ubuntu.com and my paste.
[19:55] <ducasse> teward, tgm4883 - he was hashing the checksum file, so you're both correct.
[19:55] <teward> BrAsS_mOnKeY: fcb989c06b1631e621e02bd060c732baa22db319dc4eba88a22cd821cca31825 is the correct hash sum for the SHA256HASHES.txt file that is stored on the releases.ubuntu.com server - which lists the VALID hash sums for the ISO files
[19:55] <tgm4883> teward: while we're waiting (which I think will be awhile), can you download the sha256 sum file and hash it, see if it gets the same hash that he posted
[19:56] <teward> BrAsS_mOnKeY: and that's a valid hash number for the SHA256SUMS file (I just ran that myself)
[19:56]  * tgm4883 smacks head
[19:56] <teward> BrAsS_mOnKeY: but you ran the commands on the WRONG file - you ran it on SHA256SUMS, NOT ubuntu-desktop-16.04-amd64.iso
[19:56] <EriC^^> this is kind of funny
[19:57] <tgm4883> I'm pretty sure he actually did post the exact command he ran earlier..
[19:57] <rubiksmomo> "sudo apt-get install nvidia-settings" installs version 364, even I have nvidia-361 installed. Is it a problem? How can I install nvidia-settings version 361?
[19:57] <teward> tgm4883: the only way he's getting these hashes is if he's running the hash sum functions on the wrong file - which is the case
[19:57] <tgm4883> teward: yes, I'm glad we both agree
[20:00] <OerHeks> rubiksmomo, how about using softwarecenter?
[20:01] <rubiksmomo> OerHeks, I get to choose between 364.15 and 346.59. No matching version available.
[20:02] <Bashing-om> rubiksmomo: Maybe try ' sudo apt purge nvidia* ; sudo rm /etc/X11/xorg.conf ; sudo apt-get update ; sudo apt-get install nvidia-364 nvidia-prime ' Maybe 364 will give a better result ?
[20:03] <rubiksmomo> Bashing-om, I believe I've tried. But I'm not sure, so I'll try again. ^_^
[20:03] <Bashing-om> rubiksmomo: ^^ I am assumming on 14.04 you have " sudo add-apt-repository ppa:graphics-drivers/ppa " installed .
[20:03] <rubiksmomo> Bashing-om, sure
[20:05] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> the ubuntu website says to download the sha256sums file to comepare them with the iso sha256sum
[20:05] <OerHeks> rubiksmomo, indeed! the ubuntu driver ppa has no candidate for nvidiasettings :-( or i missed something
[20:06] <OerHeks> go with Bashing-om, install the 364 version and you will be fine
[20:07] <rubiksmomo> When fine is "having same issue as before" :)
[20:07] <EriC^^> BrAsS_mOnKeY: yeah you did get the right sha256sum right?
[20:07] <EriC^^> !hashes
[20:07] <rubiksmomo> I do appreciate all the ideas though
[20:09] <rubiksmomo> time for a reboot and another black screen ^_^
[20:11] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> tgm4883, sorry.  It wasn't you.  It was ducasse. :)
[20:11] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> my iso sha256sum is the same as ducasse's.  So it must be correct
[20:11] <Rubiksmomo> Black screen with nvidia-364 too. Should wake up after 10-30min
[20:12] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> but when I dl'd the sha256sum from ubuntu.com/release and tried to find it's hash, it was different.
[20:12] <bekks> BrAsS_mOnKeY: Is the SHA256sum for the iso file the same as shown the the text file?
[20:12] <bekks> BrAsS_mOnKeY: Only if THAT is true, you are good to go.
[20:19] <OerHeks> Rubiksmomo, i just read this post, http://askubuntu.com/questions/289459/nvidia-drivers-installed-but-not-used/308504#308504 >> what do you see when you run "  sudo update-alternatives --config x86_64-linux-gnu_gl_conf  "
[20:19] <OerHeks> Rubiksmomo, i see with my nvidia * 0            /usr/lib/nvidia-304-updates/ld.so.conf      9701      auto mode, maybe yours is off automode.
[20:20] <OerHeks> in your case, * 0            /usr/lib/nvidia-364-updates/ld.so.conf      9701      auto mode  *i think*
[20:24] <Rubiksmomo> OerHeks: Yeah, close
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[20:26] <neglesaks> jesus god
[20:26] <anzuof> well did freenode staff now learn how to code?
[20:26] <pitastrudl> is that the bot doing the banning?
[20:26] <pitastrudl> nice
[20:26] <dmto> https://www.reddit.com/r/fossworldproblems/
[20:26] <bad_ip> lulz
[20:27] <bad_ip> Why's he so mad at Freenode?
[20:27] <popey> Moving on.
[20:27] <popey> Lets get back to support
[20:27] <bad_ip> It's the rules of this channel that suck, not the network
[20:27] <med_> heh
[20:27] <Cedara> Is there a guide how to remove a ppa you installed and its content?
[20:27] <Cedara> My google fu is failing me there.
[20:27] <EriC^^> !ppa-purge | Cedara useful
[20:27] <popey> Cedara: add-apt-repository -r
[20:27] <med_> probably need to look at policy on all installed packages...
[20:28] <med_> ubottu for the win
[20:29] <Cedara> it's the colour thing they showed on omgubuntu, ravefinity-project
[20:29] <Cedara> I've discovered changing the colours and trying to minimize Corebird gives compiz a fit.
[20:30] <dario__> anyone has problems with google chrome crash in 16.04?
[20:31] <Cedara> and thanks, I shall investigate that
[20:31] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> i dont see a text file for sha256sum but i do see a md5sum.txt
[20:32] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> b@ bekks
[20:39] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> ah it is correct :)
[20:40] <bekks> BrAsS_mOnKeY: So the checksum is correct. Done.
[20:41] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> was looking at the wrong release file :)
[20:41] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> hah
[20:42] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> and trying to sha256sum the the file itself.
[20:45] <gerep> My Amazon instance stopped working without any apparent reason, I need to investigate what happened with it, where should I begin? What files/logs should I look for? Thanks
[20:45] <EriC^^> gerep: /var/log/syslog maybe
[20:45] <gerep> EriC^^: Thanks ;)
[20:45] <EriC^^> no problem buddy
[20:53] <EriC^^> lsb_release -a doesn't show the release name, shouldn't it?
[20:53] <EriC^^> it just says xenial, i think trusty used to show trusty tahr?
[20:55] <therealtbe> cat /etc/lsb-release
[20:55] <Rubiksmomo> EriC^^: http://paste.ubuntu.com/16246978 =P
[20:55] <tgm4883> EriC^^: no it didn't
[20:55] <EriC^^> tgm4883: oh ok, thanks
[20:56] <therealtbe> trusty says trusty
[20:56] <EriC^^> thank you Rubiksmomo
[20:56] <Rubiksmomo> NP
[20:57] <fatex> does Cuda work on 16.04 yet? or do I need to down grade to ubuntu 15 ?
[20:57] <lerner> !cuda
[20:57] <fatex> at https://developer.nvidia.com/cuda-downloads I see ubuntu 15, but not ubuntu 16
[20:58] <lerner> !linux
[20:58] <Bashing-om> EriC^^: " sysop@1404mini:~$ lsb_release -a >> Description:    Ubuntu 14.04.4 LTS >> Codename:       trusty " .
[20:59] <EriC^^> Bashing-om: thanks
[21:00] <anonymguy> hey guys
[21:00] <anonymguy> whats up
[21:03] <neglesaks> the sky
[21:07] <chelo> hola.. alguien que habla
[21:07] <chelo> espanhol
[21:08] <qeni> chelo: english please
[21:08] <chelo> ok
[21:11] <django_> hey all
[21:11] <django_> how does ubuntu run on an asus zenbook?
[21:11] <samthewildone> I installed 16.04 but, I'm unable to boot into windows ?
[21:12] <chelo> how to install steam to ubuntu 15.04 64 bits
[21:12] <Jordan_U> samthewildone: What is the output, if any, of "sudo os-prober"?
[21:13] <auronandace> chelo: 15.04 is no longer supported
[21:13] <Jordan_U> chelo: Ubuntu 15.04 is EOL. Upgrade to 15.10 then from there to 16.04.
[21:15] <samthewildone> Jordan_U, the output says image not found once I select windows 8.1 from grub loader.
[21:16] <samthewildone> Jordan_U, can I use boot-repair ?
[21:17] <Jordan_U> samthewildone: I don't personally trust boot-repair.
[21:18] <Jordan_U> samthewildone: Can you please post a screenshot of the exact error message you see at boot?
[21:19] <samthewildone> I'll use boot-repair, not about to spend hours trying some dated method.
[21:19] <Jordan_U> samthewildone: Some dated method?
[21:20] <glass> im looking for a command to show all running services, service --status-all just shows a few is there another command?
[21:21] <tonyt> glass rty top
[21:21] <tonyt> *try
[21:21]  * zykotick9 likes htop or "ps aux"
[21:22] <Jordan_U> samthewildone: If you're really seeing "image not found" at boot then I need more information to diagnose the problem. If you're actually seeing "error: cannot load image" then you're hitting https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/grub2/+bug/1091464 and unfortunately the only work around is to disable secure boot or select Windows using your boot firmware's menu rather than grub.
[21:22] <glass> those suggestions dont do what i need i am trying to put a tail command on conky for my services
[21:23] <ivan_on_trac> Who triggers this process? apt-get -qq -y update	 -- It locks the "apt-get".
[21:23] <glass> like service --status-all | grep +
[21:23] <Jordan_U> samthewildone: I take that back, there is a work around by adding a menuetry to grub that simply exits grub so your boot firmware continues on to Windows' boot entry.
[21:24] <zach2825> i have a question, im using ubuntu 15.10. when i shutdown my computer most the time it says process is still running and it takes for ever to shut down. is there a way to see what is running?
[21:25] <nomoney4me_> question: i have wl and cfg80211 loaded in lsmod.  i followed this tutorial and it seems that it still doesnt work, manually reloading modprobe wl doesnt do anything.  I still have to
[21:25] <nomoney4me_> i still have to suspend->resume to get the scanning function to work:  reference - http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1783272&page=2
[21:26] <nomoney4me_> anyone have any ideas?
[21:34] <django_> does ubuntu store key presses?
[21:34] <django_> i freaking lost something that i was doing on chrome incognito
[21:34] <Jordan_U> django_: No.
[21:35] <nomoney4me_> django_ i did that awhile back too :( lesson learned
[21:35] <django_> Jordan_U: what about things that were copied ie i could control paste
[21:37] <Jordan_U> django_: If it's really important, you have a long shot chance if you don't select any text at all before listening to my instructions / explanation.
[21:37] <django_> what
[21:37] <Jordan_U> django_: Only the most recent text copied to the buffer is stored. So you can try pasting, but if what gets pasted isn't what you're looking for you're out of luck for the secondary paste buffer.
[21:38] <django_> bahh
[21:38] <Jordan_U> django_: X has two paste buffers, and the primary paste buffer is filled any time you select any text, which you can then paste back by pressing your middle mouse button. If neither of the two paste buffers has what you want, you are again out of luck.
[21:39] <django_> does 16.04 come with a clipboard manager?
[21:42] <Abe_> hello I need to create a configuration script to switch between Intel integrated and Nvidia Graphics card... with "sudo prime-select intel" and sudo "prime-select nvidia" ... does somebody know what I'm talking about? have one of those Hybrid pc's and I don't want to type in my password everytime
[21:42] <Jordan_U> django_: No.
[21:46] <Abe_> apparently I need to put my config script in /etc/sudoers.d/50-prime-select ...or  /usr/local/bin/
[21:47] <lpaalp1> hello
[21:47] <jamesd_> hi
[21:48] <Abe_> nevermind
[21:48] <lpaalp1> my firefox tooltips look like this: http://imgur.com/a/CnhsN (they're black and unreadable), can anyone help me fix this?
[21:48] <jamesd_> i never do, i always break rules,  at least 50 times a day...
[21:49] <lyze> lpaalp1, that's because your current theme (gtk I think?) has that kind of color. Firefox uses those.
[21:50] <lpaalp1> lyze: hmm, so it's a color scheme problem? I tried changing themes but it didn't have any effect
[21:50] <lyze> lpaalp1, have you restarted firefox?
[21:51] <lpaalp1> lyze: it worked!
[21:51] <lpaalp1> lyze: thank you
[21:51] <lyze> No problem :)
[22:00] <samthewildone> Jordan_U, it was UEFI
[22:05] <Jordan_U> samthewildone: I already knew that you were using UEFI.
[22:05] <samthewildone> Jordan_U, did you know I'm superman ?
[22:06] <Jordan_U> samthewildone: Do you still have an Ubuntu support question?
[22:07] <samthewildone> not anymore
[22:08] <anonymguy> hwy
[22:08] <anonymguy> quit
[22:09] <nomoney4me_> anyone having problem with broadcome 4321 not scanning with bcmwl-kernel-source on 16.04?
[22:09] <nomoney4me_> broadcom*
[22:13] <OerHeks> nomoney4me_, did you install linux-headers-generic too?
[22:15] <nomoney4me_> OerHeks: not sure, I just got a clean installation and I did "apt-get install bcmwl-kernel-source"
[22:16] <callipygous> Having issues getting Ubuntu Software Centre to load.  It just fails to open at all.  Spinning wheel is all I get...
[22:16] <Guy1524> hey guys, so I have ubuntu gnome 16.04 (upgraded from 15.10) with nvidia drivers 364.19.  All my games and programs work (even vulkan ones) except for Rust, whenever I join a server, my driver becomes really slow and I can't move my mouse.  It closes rust and fixes it self when I relog using CTRL ALT F7.  For some reason it works in xfce though
[22:16] <Guy1524> any ideas?
[22:16] <Guy1524> I don't like xfce
[22:17] <fredsua> good day.  I'm running Ubuntu 16.04 and cant figure out how to install printer Brother MFC-9460cdn over the network.
[22:18] <fredsua> I've already installed the .deb drivers on the Brother website just like i had done in  14.04 LTS
[22:18] <fredsua> and that did no work
[22:19] <fredsua> Am I missing some file?  Ubuntu 16.04 LTS 64-bit
[22:23] <fredsua> I'm running Ubuntu 16.04 and cant figure out how to install printer Brother MFC-9460cdn over the network.  I've already installed the .deb drivers on the Brother website just like i had done in  14.04 and that did no work.  Am I missing some file?  Ubuntu 16.04 LTS 64-bit
[22:23] <nacc> !patience | fredsua
[22:23] <callipygous> Having issues getting Ubuntu Software Centre to load.  It just fails to open at all.  Spinning wheel is all I get...
[22:23] <fredsua> sorry, i'm new here.
[22:24] <soSLow> Hi! My ubuntu 14.04 is being slow in general, especially on boot up.
[22:24] <soSLow> opening terminator takes 2 seconds
[22:25] <_zlate_> hi i am trying to use extglob for logrotate
[22:25] <_zlate_> however that doesnt seem to work
[22:25] <soSLow> http://pastebin.com/P4JZeuYG
[22:26] <callipygous> hmm, okay
[22:26] <soSLow> I installed it alongside windows. I had 90 GB free unallocated space. I was never asked how much space to allocate
[22:26] <callipygous> so software center loads ffrom the terminal using the comand $ software-center
[22:26] <callipygous> but won't launch from Unity's taskbar
[22:26] <callipygous> What would cause that?
[22:26] <_zlate_> Anyone has any idea how to enable extglob for logrotate
[22:27] <kisb> callipygous, check the dot desktop
[22:27] <callipygous> kisb: dot desktop?
[22:27] <fredsua> how do i reply to a question?
[22:27] <kisb> there is the launcher command that starts the application
[22:27] <soSLow> it takes me 5 seconds to load any webpage in firefox
[22:28] <MonkeyDust> kisb  here in irc?
[22:28] <MonkeyDust> fredsua  ^^^
[22:28] <squinty> fredsua, type the person's nick to whom you are replying to and then your question
[22:28] <callipygous> kisb: not sure how to access the launcher?
[22:28] <squinty> !tab | fred
[22:29] <fredsua> callipygous: how about doing a reinstall of ubuntu?
[22:30] <kisb> its /usr/share/applications/gnome-software-something.desktop
[22:30] <callipygous> fredsua: could do, but it's a fresh install
[22:30] <soSLow> can anyone help me identify why ubuntu is so slow>
[22:31] <soSLow> please :)
[22:31] <fredsua> callipygous: I would recommend downloading the file again and doing a fresh install.
[22:31] <callipygous> okay
[22:31] <callipygous> will try that
[22:31] <kisb> i would suggest just give up on software center
[22:32] <Guy1524> soSLow: try xubuntu, unity is a disaster
[22:32] <callipygous> well, it's not for me, I don't know how good syaptic is for n00bs
[22:32] <kisb> use synaptic
[22:32] <fredsua> callipygous, maybe the file you downloaded originally was missing a file
[22:32] <squinty> the new software center in 16.04 is buggy
[22:32] <soSLow> Guy1524: have you seen the specs i've pasted?
[22:32] <Guy1524> no
[22:32] <callipygous> I downloaded an iso, and checked the md5
[22:32] <callipygous> and it passed
[22:32] <soSLow> http://pastebin.com/P4JZeuYG
[22:32] <callipygous> so, I'll just try a reinstall, thanks.
[22:33] <Guy1524> beats me
[22:33] <soSLow> i'm suspecting HDD
[22:33] <soSLow> since it's booting so slow
[22:33] <kisb> callipygous, synaptic is easy
[22:33] <squinty> soSLow,  if you are on 16.04 try  systemd-analyze blame  in a terminal
[22:33] <fredsua> callipygous:  download it from the torrent site
[22:33] <soSLow> squinty: i'm on 14.04
[22:34] <squinty> fredsua, might want to try using the CUPS setup.....   enter the following in your web browser  https://localhost:631/  >  CUPS for Administrators > Adding Printers and Classes
[22:35] <fredsua> squinty:  thank you I've been looking for this site for a while now.  I'll give it a shot.
[22:35] <soSLow> do i need to have a partition for swap?
[22:36] <soSLow> i guess not
[22:37] <Bashing-om> soSLow: How much ram is installed, and do you intend to be able to hiberbate ?
[22:38] <fredsua> squinty, the site does not find the network printer either.  the printer is connected to the router and is on.
[22:40] <soSLow> Bashing-om: 8 GB RAM
[22:40] <squinty> fredsua,  system settings -> Add -> network printer   maybe try that
[22:41] <soSLow> Bashing-om: no
[22:41] <Codfection> how to hibernate instead of sleep in ubuntu?
[22:41] <Guest53756> hi
[22:41] <reisio> Codfection: why do you ask?
[22:41] <reisio> Guest53756: hi; /nick anythingplz
[22:41] <Guest53756> hello
[22:41] <Bashing-om> soSLow: Then you can get by fine with no swap . No heavy duty number crunching .
[22:43] <soSLow> Bashing-om: Promise
[22:43] <Codfection> I cant find hibernate option on ubuntu (using laptop ofc)
[22:43] <fredsua> squinty, I have, when i select "Find Network Printer" it goes into search for a long time and then it either locks up or gives me an error.
[22:44] <fredsua> squinty, doing it now and it locked up.
[22:44] <squinty> fredsua, not really up on printers   hopefully someone else can chime in
[22:44] <Codfection> Guys how to get hibernate option instead of suspend? IN UBUNTU 16.04
[22:45] <fredsua> squinty, have you had any problems installing a network printer?
[22:45] <wad> Installing a printer, but it's a model (HP Laserjet 4050tn) that doesn't show up in the list. Should I download HPLIP from hp?
[22:45] <soSLow> Bashing-om: cmake and docker will be used
[22:46] <fredsua> squinty, my printer search is still locked.  I think I maybe missing a file or lib.
[22:49] <a100_le6> hi
[22:50] <a100_le6> hi
[22:51] <Codfection> Guys how to get hibernate option instead of suspend? IN UBUNTU 16.04
[22:51] <Bashing-om> soSLow: http://paste.ubuntu.com/16248279/ ; 4 Gigs of ram, and I am not touching swap with quite a bit going on .
[22:52] <a100_le6> I don't know. I use 12.04
[22:52] <Codfection> Guys how to get hibernate option instead of suspend? IN UBUNTU
[22:52] <virtuosoj> :O get with the times man
[22:53] <a100_le6> 12.04--Cannot change beep sound on G3 iBook Clamshell
[22:53] <virtuosoj> "sudo pm-hibernate"
[22:54] <virtuosoj> @Codfection, https://help.ubuntu.com/16.04/ubuntu-help/power-hibernate.html
[22:54] <Codfection> even for hibernate I have to type command
[22:55] <virtuosoj> Codfection, apparently ubuntu tests your hardware to see if hibernate is supported. If not, they don't show the command
[22:55] <nomoney4me_> anyone know what "partially" means on this page? https://wireless.wiki.kernel.org/en/users/Drivers/b43#known_problems_limitations
[22:57] <lyze> nomoney4me_, since you are already in a irc channel … I'd suggest giving the irc channel of those guys a try? #bcm-users
[22:57] <nomoney4me_> well I did ask there, was just wondering if someone else who has dealt with them know it off of the top of their head.
[22:58] <lyze> Ah alright c:
[22:58] <nomoney4me_> but thanks for the type lyze
[22:58] <logicalor> If I have added a bunch of PPAs and I upgrade to 16.04, I'm going to face issues aren't I
[22:59] <Bashing-om> logicalor: One word, yes . disable PAAs, and see what is supported on the other side .
[22:59] <squinty> logicalor, disable them first
[22:59] <Codfection> spotify FOR UBUNTU>
[22:59] <Codfection> ?
[22:59] <logicalor> thx - I'll do that.  might wait until the weekend though :)
[23:00] <lyze> Codfection, http://www.webupd8.org/2014/05/spotify-for-linux-gets-refreshed-user.html
[23:00] <Bashing-om> logicalor: Same logic applies to any proprietary drivers that you have in use .
[23:00] <reisio> spotify works fine from a browser
[23:00] <Codfection> ty lyze
[23:01] <logicalor> ah yes - good point.  I'm running the proprietary nvidia driver.
[23:01] <Codfection> hi reisio
[23:01] <Codfection> I prefer an app
[23:02] <Bashing-om> logicalor: Graphics driver will break in the upgrade . so revert to open source prior .
[23:02] <Rhorse> There is no spotify web site afaik....
[23:02] <logicalor> maybe backing up my data and running a clean install may be the way to go.  I've done a fair bit of chopping and changing (originally kubuntu, but swapped to gnome3).
[23:03] <Rhorse> You _need_ the app for spotify - no web site like pandora
[23:03] <reisio> Codfection: you mean you prefer an additional app
[23:03] <reisio> Rhorse: no, it does have a website
[23:03] <logicalor> yeah play.spotify.com does the trick
[23:03] <Rhorse> Does it?
[23:03] <lyze> ppa's will get disabled automatically when you upgrade … at least that's what it did for me: http://i.imgur.com/K5aO7pE.png
[23:03] <logicalor> but it can be choppy
[23:03] <reisio> yup
[23:03] <reisio> and the website doesn't require gconf the way the app does :D
[23:03] <logicalor> app seems to be smoother
[23:03]  * reisio stabs gconf
[23:03] <Rhorse> Oh, OK, didn't know about that one
[23:05] <kus> sorry if you were trying to talk to me and I didn't see it ... I was not on my computer
[23:06] <reisio> not on your computer?...
[23:06] <reisio> ...where on earth were you, where else is there...
[23:12] <callipygous> Okay, reinstalled Ubuntu
[23:12] <callipygous> still having issues with software center
[23:12] <callipygous> it's beach balling
[23:12] <reisio> beach balling?
[23:13] <callipygous> yeah...I dunno that's what us mac users call it
[23:13] <callipygous> when the waiting for thing keeps going
[23:13] <reisio> oh, hahah
[23:13] <callipygous> I click "Updates" and it just keeps loading and loading
[23:13] <reisio> "doesn't load" is what that's called
[23:13] <reisio> won't finish loading, etc.
[23:14] <callipygous> yup
[23:14] <callipygous> What should I do?
[23:14] <callipygous> I mean, I could install synaptic, but how good is synaptic for n00bs?
[23:15] <Rhorse> Does apt-get work, callipygous?
[23:15] <callipygous> yeah, apt-get does work
[23:16] <fredsua> callipygous, type  sudo apt-get update
[23:16] <fredsua> callipygous, then type sudo apt-get upgrade
[23:17] <Rhorse> fredsua: callipygous maybe once apt-get gets through with updating system, software center will catch up...
[23:17] <callipygous> okay, worth a shot
[23:18] <fredsua> callipygous, hopefully that will work.
[23:18] <Rhorse> callipygous: is this 16.04?
[23:18] <callipygous> Why is Dofus no longer in Software Center
[23:18] <callipygous> ?
[23:18] <callipygous> Nor can I find Skype
[23:18] <callipygous> yes, 16.04
[23:19] <Rhorse> 32 or 64 bit?
[23:19] <callipygous> 64
[23:19] <fredsua> callipygous, duno, just get it from the website
[23:20] <callipygous> hmm Skype is 12.04 multiarch
[23:20] <callipygous> no 16.04 version, I guess it's worth a shot, tho
[23:20] <reisio> http://talky.io/ is all arch
[23:21] <fredsua> well, i was able to install the network printer using https://localhost:631/admin
[23:21] <nacc> callipygous: iirc, skype is in partner
[23:21] <bazhang> !info skype partner
[23:21] <fredsua> the problem was that my daughter had disconnected the USB cable, go figure....
[23:21] <callipygous> is in partner?
[23:22] <nacc> callipygous: you have to enable the partner repo
[23:22] <callipygous> oh ok :)
[23:22] <nacc> callipygous: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Skype ignore the multiarch bit, i think, but you do need partner enabled to see it
[23:22] <fredsua> however, when I print a test page it says that Printer Brother..... may not be connected.
[23:22] <danmulvey> hey everyone! so im trying to update flash for firefox in ubuntu 15.04 and having problems. i downloaded the update and installed it through apt, it says its installed in software center, but firefox still says i have the outdated/vulnerable version. any thoughts?
[23:23] <nacc> danmulvey: 15.04 is eol
[23:23] <reisio> danmulvey: firefox is dumb in that way
[23:23] <Rhorse> danmulvey: I always dl flash from adobe and put the thing in my .mozilla directory.
[23:23] <reisio> danmulvey: try browser-plugin-freshplayer-pepperflash
[23:23] <danmulvey> nacc: can i upgrade or do i need to do a fresh install to get up to date? also, would i do it stepwise or can i go straight from 15.04 to the current version
[23:23] <reisio> ^silly
[23:24] <danmulvey> reisio: thanks ill try that and see what happens
[23:24] <danmulvey> thanks Rhorse also
[23:24] <nacc> !eolupgrade | danmulvey
[23:24] <Rhorse> I believe the dir is .mozilla/plugin or something.... I use Chrome now wihich has all that built in.
[23:24] <nacc> danmulvey: you'll need to go -> 15.10 -> 16.04 (if you want)
[23:25] <callipygous> okay, getting more beach balling with Software Center
[23:25] <reisio> you really don't want to install it manually
[23:25] <danmulvey> nacc: alright cool, thanks. didn't realize i was so far behind!
[23:25] <fredsua> callipygous, what are you trying to install?
[23:26] <danmulvey> reisio: it also says my firefox is out of date when i go to mozillas page, but im assuming thats because im using the ubuntu packaged version right? or can i download/install the latest firefox from the mozilla site without issue (or is there a good reason for/against that?)?
[23:27] <reisio> it's because the people in charge of Firefox's GUI (and all browser's GUIs for that matter), are clowns
[23:27] <reisio> wouldn't worry about it unless it's happening on other sites / and actually keeping you from doing something
[23:27] <danmulvey> lol yeah that doesnt surprise me
[23:28] <danmulvey> alright cool, yeah the only time i noticed it was when i got the notification that i was running a potentially vulnerable flash plugin & then went to their page that checks for updates etc
[23:29] <danmulvey> i wonder if the problem with the flash update is that i just installed the new version of flash but didnt install some browser specific helper plugin or something to hook the two together?
[23:29] <danmulvey> just trying to understand what the disconnect is really
[23:31] <Annoyed> Hallo.. Anyone know why they patched samba again today? it was finally working and it's back to not working
[23:31] <backbox> hi
[23:33] <backbox> hi drone
[23:36] <callipygous> I'm not trying to install anything
[23:36] <callipygous> Software center is just beach balling, and won't let me do anything
[23:38] <YankDownUnder> callipygous, Have you tried anything else - like Synaptic or even doing an update from the terminal?
[23:39] <callipygous> YankDownUnder, yeah, I can do update from the Terminal, and have done
[23:39] <callipygous> YankDownUnder, apt-get seems to work perfectly fine
[23:40] <callipygous> Haven't tried Synaptic, tho, is it any good for newbs?
[23:40] <fredsua> callipygous, if you can't exit software center, log out and come back in, then open Terminal and type:  sudo apt-get update    followed by sudo apt-get upgrade
[23:40] <callipygous> done that, fredusa
[23:40] <callipygous> no luck
[23:40] <fredsua> callipygous, so the software center starts on its own?
[23:41] <callipygous> well, I haven't quit it yet to see if it starts again
[23:41] <danmulvey> anyone have a preference as far as password managers go?
[23:41] <callipygous> I'm afraid it won't, like before
[23:41] <reisio> danmulvey: make algorithmic passwords and you can just store them in your head
[23:41] <fredsua> quit or restart to end Software Center.
[23:42] <fredsua> callipygous, when you return, open the Software Center and install Gdebi.
[23:42] <danmulvey> reisio: ive been doing something along those lines for a while now, been kinda interested in these recently though and wondering what the "standard" is around here
[23:42] <danmulvey> mainly for my mom really
[23:42] <callipygous> Gdebi?
[23:42] <Rhorse> danmulvey: I use the password.google.com service with Chrome.
[23:43] <fredsua> callipygous, then make Gdebi your default installer of .deb files.
[23:43] <reisio> danmulvey: there's no standard; every variable you add makes it (way) stronger
[23:43] <fredsua> callipygous, that's what i've done and it works like a charm
[23:43] <callipygous> well, I restarted Software Center
[23:44] <callipygous> but I cannot do anything with it
[23:44] <reisio> danmulvey: ordinary human can handle two or three variations easily
[23:44] <callipygous> it wont' let me install anything
[23:44] <callipygous> If I click search, it just beach balls
[23:44] <Rhorse> callipygous: try reinstalling it..?
[23:44] <callipygous> I tried that
[23:44] <callipygous> didn't work
[23:45] <danmulvey> reisio: oh i meant the "standard" as far as which app people are using in ubuntu (lastpass, keepassx, etc etc)
[23:45] <Rhorse> callipygous: try making a new user and logging in under that user.
[23:45] <callipygous> Rhorse, I don't thikn that will work.  I just did a fresh install because of the issue
[23:45] <danmulvey> reisio: im familiar with using algorithms in my head to come up with passphrases, ive got a couple routines i rely on
[23:45] <callipygous> but it still happens with a fresh install
[23:45] <danmulvey> Rhorse: ill check that out, for some reason ive never actually used it
[23:46]  * reisio shrugs
[23:46] <Rhorse> callipygous: have you checked the logs to see if anything appears?
[23:46] <callipygous> which logs?
[23:47] <Rhorse> check in /var/logs for anything related? Not sure if the Software Center uses logging....
[23:49] <callipygous> Yeah, can't see anything related in /var/log
[23:52] <ichat> can anyone tell me what im to expect when i want to use zram on a 1,3ghz quadcore amd cpu with only 4gb ram,  is zram system-heavy,  does it even play nice with ubuntu.
[23:52] <Rhorse> I wonder if running it from the cli with --debug option will get you some useful output, callipygous...?
[23:53] <callipygous> doesn't work
[23:53] <Rhorse> ??
[23:53] <callipygous> Unknown option --debus
[23:53] <callipygous> Unknown option --debug
[23:55] <nacc> ichat: i think the ubuntu package might be zram-config
[23:56] <Rhorse> callipygous: are you running it as root?
[23:56] <callipygous> Is this safe to try:  http://etechedu.blogspot.com.au/2011/11/solution-to-ubuntu-software-center-not.html
[23:56] <callipygous> no, I dont' have root account enabled
[23:56] <callipygous> I just enter password when it asks
[23:56] <ichat> nacc, ty. ill give it a shot.
[23:57] <nacc> ichat: but i think zram might be targetted at very low-memory systms
[23:57] <Rhorse> callipygous: what options does it show in man page or with --help switch?
[23:57] <nacc> ichat: honestly not sure, can i ask what is prompting you to investigate it?
[23:57] <callipygous> shows --verbose
[23:57] <callipygous> tried --verbose but nothing odd appears
[23:58] <Rhorse> Could it just need a long time to sync? Maybe leave it for a couple of hours?
[23:59] <callipygous> nope, I don't think so.  It definitely has issues
[23:59] <OerHeks> callipygous, this page is a better help with apt/softwarecenter issues >> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PackageManagerTroubleshootingProcedure


[03:41] <bjsnider> Sarvatt, let me know when the code for the nvidia_supported script is finished
[03:51] <ion> It isn’t?
[03:57] <ion> bjsnider
[04:15] <bjsnider> the script is finished but its integration into the packaging scripts is not
[04:15] <bjsnider> because the usage of the script has changed
[04:16] <bjsnider> the most recent package simply disables the script and adds a hardcoded modaliases file
[04:16] <bjsnider> ion
[04:45] <ion> Ah, indeed.
[21:08] <PhoenixSTF> hi guys
[21:09] <PhoenixSTF> sorry i dont know where to ask this
[21:09] <PhoenixSTF> but im having troble with ATI 10.6 flgxr driver instaltion
[21:10] <PhoenixSTF> after instalation it wont recognize the grafic card, and there is no xorg.conf
[21:13] <PhoenixSTF> sorry and thanks in advance
[23:25] <Sarvatt> if anyone comes in with problems with ati 10.6 like that guy did they need to run sudo aticonfig --initial


[01:16] <kwwii> night all
[01:17] <kwwii> see you tomorrow
[05:08] <troy_s> news2000 just got back
[05:37] <troy_s> anyone alive?
[06:58] <Ro1> hi
[06:58] <Ro1> can i submit a wallapper i just made
[07:05] <Ro1> i made this new wall paper, i put it here on my server: www.freewebs.com/ronserver/ubuntu2.jpg and www.freewebs.com/ronserver/ubuntu1.jpg Please email me at<EMAIL_ADDRESS>about your opinions, thanks.
[09:54] <msikma_> Hi everyone
[10:35] <id_sonic> hi
[10:35] <id_sonic> hello
[10:35] <id_sonic> anyone here?
[10:36] <Madpilot> apparently not ;)
[10:41] <msikma_> I'm here
[10:43] <id_sonic> oh,, hello. I need the default wallpaper of ubuntu dapper.
[10:44] <id_sonic> can you give me a url of it?
[10:44] <id_sonic> thx
[10:48] <id_sonic> hello , are you alive?
[11:13] <lapo> hi
[12:00] <id_sonic> exit
[03:36] <newz2000> good morning
[03:39] <klepas> moin
[04:04] <Ro1> i made this new wall paper, i put it here on my server: www.freewebs.com/ronserver/ubuntu2.jpg and www.freewebs.com/ronserver/ubuntu1.jpg Please email me at<EMAIL_ADDRESS>about your opinions, thanks.
[04:24] <msikma_> Hi Ro1, please send those wallpapers to the mailing list for appropriate criticism.
[04:35] <klepas> msikma_: kinda weird, huh. =\
[04:35] <msikma_> ?
[04:35] <msikma_> Oh
[04:35] <msikma_> He left
[04:35] <msikma_> Hehe
[04:36] <klepas> yea (:
[04:36] <klepas> so, going to email him about that wallpaper?
[04:36] <klepas> ^^
[04:38] <klepas> well i shall be off
[04:38] <klepas> be back laters
[05:04] <msikma_> Yeah, I'll mail him
[05:04] <klepas_> hehe :)
[05:04] <klepas_> i was jokinh L)
[05:05] <msikma_> Hmm... I guess you're right
[05:06] <klepas_> msikma_: have you had any luck getting e17 working under dapper?
[05:28] <msikma_> e17?
[05:28] <klepas> yea
[05:28] <klepas> enlightenment
[05:28] <msikma_> Qu' est-ce que c'est
[05:28] <klepas> window manager
[05:29] <msikma_> Oh, no, I haven't tried
[05:29] <klepas> been trying to compile from cvs for the past 3 hours
[05:29] <klepas> no luck :(
[05:29] <msikma_> I only compiled one thing in my life, a customized MEncoder. It was the worst thing ever.
[05:29] <msikma_> With H.264, subtitle and LAME MP3 support.
[05:30] <klepas> hehe
[05:31] <klepas> i compiled gimp2.3cvs, banshee 0.11.0-cvs and inkscape from svn :)
[05:31] <klepas> well worth it
[05:58] <msikma_> Well, I guess that I just don't really like compiling
[07:29] <Ro1> hi, how can i submit a wallpaper i just made
[07:35] <klepas> we're not really submitting work at this stage
[07:35] <Ro1> dang....that stinks
[07:35] <klepas> if you're eager to still get your work out there place it on gnome-look.org
[07:35] <klepas> :)
[07:35] <Ro1> so i made wallpaper for nothing
[07:35] <Ro1> ok
[07:37] <klepas> not really
[07:37] <klepas> once we get art.ubuntu.com running properly work will go there, and otherwise, work will go to the distribution and gnome-look :)
[07:45] <Ro1> woo..i put it on there
[07:45] <Ro1> can you tell me what you think?
[07:45] <Ro1> http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php?content=42075


[01:07] <cjohnston> nigelb: i thought you said you were gonna start contributing to summit again
[02:31] <nigelb> cjohnston: I did write a comment on a merge request. And I'm actively contributing server cycles by running tarmac ;)
[12:53] <daker> hhhh
[14:56] <hallino1> Good afternoon :)
[14:58] <cjohnston> hey hallino1
[14:58] <hallino1> Hey cjohnston .. How thing's going?
[14:58] <cjohnston> not too bad..
[14:59] <hallino1> cjohnston, all right :P


[12:36] <asac> fta: please test the latest pulse audio config patch from bug 192888
[12:36] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 192888 in libflashsupport "firefox crashes on flash contents" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/192888
[12:36] <asac> its supposed to make sound work everywhere
[12:36] <asac> (without flashsupport)
[17:17] <ubotu> New bug: #216895 in firefox-3.0 (main) "firefox closing without warning" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/216895
[19:03] <xhaker> asac: should i test the new pulse audio config?
[19:21] <Jazzva> New domain, new blog, and the first post is about Mozilla team :). http://jazzva.com/2008/04/19/mozilla-team-and-ubuntu-hardy-heron/ (posting this link is not meant to be self-ad :))
[20:42] <fta> Jazzva, :)
[20:48] <fta> Jazzva, are you linked on planet ?
[20:58] <[reed]> well, at least Fx3b5 over Fx2!
[20:59] <Jazzva> fta, no... Need to be Ubuntu member for that ;).
[20:59] <fta> oh
[20:59] <fta> [reed], too bad moz2 still needs cvs
[21:00] <[reed]> only for NSS and NSPR
[21:00] <Jazzva> [reed] I like FF3b5 a lot :)... It is a lot better.
[21:00] <fta> [reed], i know ;) will they move to hg too ?
[21:00] <[reed]> unknown
[21:02] <fta> i like 3.0pre even better
[21:03] <Jazzva> I returned back to 3.0b5 when I found out that issue with passwords ... I remember you told me it's resolved now, but I forgot to update back to it :)
[21:47] <fta> -rw-r--r-- 1 fta fta 38463786 2008-04-19 22:47 firefox-4.0_4.0~a1~hg14385~20080416+nobinonly.orig.tar.gz
[21:50] <Jazzva> Wow ... Pretty much like ff3, right :)?
[21:51] <fta> i try to preserve as much as possible, yes
[21:51] <Jazzva> Mhm...
[21:53] <fta> it's not a stripped tarball yet, it's a full one
[21:54] <fta> the worse part was to adapt mozilla-devscripts to hg/mercurial
[21:54] <Jazzva> hg/mercurial? Will have to google it up :)
[21:55] <fta> similar to bzr and git
[21:55] <Jazzva> Oh...
[21:55] <fta> far away from cvs, a last
[22:17] <fta> I will have to do xulrunner-2.0 later too..
[22:28] <fta> hm, maybe I should do that right now
[22:28] <Jazzva> good luck :)... I'm gonna do a few easy bugs...
[22:29] <fta> Jazzva, fixing teatime would make me happy
[22:29] <Jazzva> teatime? bug number? :)
[22:31] <fta> bug 190547
[22:31] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 190547 in teatime "teatime doesn't play sounds" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/190547
[22:35] <Jazzva> looking at the code, but I'm not sure if I'll find the bug :)
[22:36] <fta> nm then.
[22:37] <Jazzva> I'll try :)
[22:42] <Sergeant_Pony> if tb has an error does it write it to a logfile? if so where would I find it?
[22:43] <fta> you have an Error console
[23:27] <Sergeant_Pony> anyone alive in here?
[23:44] <[reed]> nope, all dead
[23:45] <Sergeant_Pony> hmm.. that's too bad. I got my tb, lightning setup working finally and wanted to thank someone for there help. Oh well.


[07:57] <utkarsh2102> tomwardill: hey, I have a request sent to feedback@, could you take a look whenever you have time?
[07:57] <utkarsh2102> TIA! :)
[08:09] <tomwardill> utkarsh2102: sure. I’m not on support next week, but whoever is should get to it soon 😀
[08:10] <utkarsh2102> aah, okay. thank you!
[08:10] <tomwardill> You can also pop along to ~Launchpad on Mattermost, the header has the support contact and their hours.
[08:10] <tomwardill> (During working days at least 😀)
[08:11] <utkarsh2102> ooh, gotcha! Cristian is, but 8-17 UTC on weekdays.
[08:13] <tomwardill> Yeah, not sure who is on next week, other than to know it’s not me 😆
[08:14] <utkarsh2102> heh, no problem. hopefully the request is trivial.
[08:14] <utkarsh2102> or maybe not? I don't know :P
[08:15] <utkarsh2102> it's basically to switch ~utkarsh2102 to ~utkarsh.


[06:23] <hads> Morning
[06:29] <Atamira> its early evening now
[20:41] <thumper> happy new year :-)
[21:11] <zapzupnz> happy new year to you
[22:56] <ajmitch> morning
[22:56] <ajmitch> & happy new year
[23:57] <Atamira> afternoon
[23:57] <Atamira> and happy new year to all