[05:49] <dabaR> yancm: no need to apologise...alternate cd has options to install a server as you boot into the menu at boot time.
[05:50] <dabaR> richie_: cat /etc/fstab
[05:50] <rmd_> i'm looking to minimalize the number of daemons upon booting my ubuntu system, is there a utility that lists daemons along side information and dialogs to enable/disable them?
[05:50] <chinaski> where can i find alternate cd
[05:50] <chinaski> i have only one cd
[05:50] <padla> Anybody using a thinkpad? I have an x21 and xubuntu but the system freezes short after booting. Should be some cheatcode to add, acpi, fb or so, anybody got an idea?
[05:50] <rmd_> i'm also looking to remove my windows partitions from my desktop upon login.  how can i do that?
[05:50] <chinaski> which is live and install altogether
[05:50] <SUSaiyan> Solopher: allo!
[05:50] <roduku> how do I install a package I downloaded?...I can't figure it out
[05:50] <richie_> dabaR: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26758/
[05:50] <rmd_> chinaski, there is an alternative install CD listed just under "Desktop CD" on the main download page.
[05:51] <dabaR> rmd_: there is a System>Admin>Servers, but it does not list everything.
[05:51] <chinaski> but i dont have
[05:51] <chinaski> fuck
[05:51] <rmd_> roduku: if you haven't used Synaptic to install the package, find it in Nautilus and then double click it.
[05:51] <dabaR> heh
[05:51] <chinaski> i dont have fast internet connection
[05:51] <ianmacgregor> !language
[05:51] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[05:51] <Buglouse> When i try to install packages from source...   I am looking for something that will let me disable, say, rsync, amongst other things.
[05:52] <priher> why difference of speed between explorer and firefox
[05:52] <chinaski> i depend on the ship-it fascility
[05:52] <SpaceFrog> regarding that QEMU howto, That's telling me to install WIndows in an emulated environment.. can i use my already-existing partition instead?
[05:53] <roduku> ok... isn't Synaptic the package installer
[05:53] <THX-1138> chinaski - okay shipit
[05:53] <dabaR> rmd_: man update-rc.d
[05:53] <priher> or any missoption should be installed?
[05:53] <THX-1138> !shipit
[05:53] <ubotu> shipit is a service that sends free Ubuntu, Kubuntu and Edubuntu CDs. See http://shipit.ubuntu.com/ and http://shipit.kubuntu.org and http://shipit.edubuntu.org
[05:53] <chinaski> shipit doesnt sed alternate cd
[05:53] <dabaR> priher: you mean internet explorer? ew...
[05:53] <richie_> dabaR: if you're busy helping someone else apologies, but just in cased you missed it, the link i gave was http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26758/
[05:53] <chinaski> just one cd
[05:54] <richie_> case*
[05:54] <Weber> THX-1138, Shall I use kernel framebuffer device interface?
[05:54] <priher> dabaR : Yeah
[05:54] <chinaski> which cant be recognized by synaptic
[05:54] <priher> firefox is so low speed than explorer
[05:55] <priher> but using same network
[05:55] <THX-1138> Weber - I use it. no noticeable difference here either way. - though i have seen it advised most often with lcd panels on older laptops
[05:55] <Buglouse> When i try to install packages from source... I get this error when using the command ./configure:  checking for C compiler default output... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables
[05:56] <dabaR> richie_: sudo umount /dev/hdb2;sudo mkdir /mnt/;sudo mkdir /mnt/hdb2;sudo mount /dev/hdb2 /mnt/hdb2 -tntfs -ousers
[05:56] <yggdrasil> how can i find out what device my microphone is ?
[05:56] <dabaR> yggdrasil: lshw perhaps
[05:56] <yggdrasil> cool ill try it
[05:56] <Wheelybin> I got my head around avidemux. It works by cutting out the bits you don't want! I'll post my efforts on youtube presently
[05:56] <dabaR> Buglouse: and what have you tried to remedy this, and do you have the usual, build-essential installed?
[05:57] <richie_> dabaR: mkdir: cannot create directory `/mnt/': File exists
[05:57] <Weber> THX-1138, I use old CRT screen
[05:57] <dabaR> richie_: that is all you got?
[05:57] <priher> dabaR : plz tell me too,, :)
[05:57] <richie_> dabaR: yep
[05:57] <THX-1138> Weber - "" 2 of them
[05:57] <dabaR> richie_: ls /mnt/hdb2
[05:57] <dabaR> priher: why is it slower...no idea.
[05:57] <Buglouse> dabaR: i installed gcc... don't know what else to do... i could show you the config.log if you wished
[05:57] <dabaR> Buglouse: install build-essential
[05:58] <Weber> THX-1138, ? what about this one? Select the X.Org server modules that should be loaded by default.
[05:58] <wrabbit^> Buglouse: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[05:58] <Solopher>  /join gentoo
[05:58] <richie_> dabaR: it gives the contents of what is in my harddrive
[05:58] <Buglouse> thank you
[05:58] <dabaR> richie_: sweet.
[05:58] <priher> dabaR : that is unusual case?
[05:59] <Buglouse> knew i had to do something allong thous lines.. install the installer
[05:59] <dabaR> priher: ya, nothing needs to be installed for that. Is it a lot slower?
[05:59] <dabaR> richie_: you probably want this to be mounted every time you sign in...
[05:59] <THX-1138> Weber. - Your file looked fine.
[05:59] <priher> yeah, very slow than explorer in windows..
[06:00] <priher> so I try to update firefox but nothing difference
[06:00] <richie_> dabaR: yes, i would like it so i can access it all the time
[06:00] <dabaR> richie_: can you use a command line editor?
[06:00] <richie_> dabaR: you mean from windows? i'm not incredibly familiar with it, but i've been there once or twice
[06:01] <Weber> THX-1138, so v4l, record & dbe, shall not be loaded ?
[06:01] <THX-1138> Weber - Did you install the binary from the nvidia site?  installing  nvidia-glx from the restricted repository is much easier and less fuss.
[06:01] <dabaR> richie_: no, the command line editor in a terminal. If not, run gksudo gedit /etc/fstab and we will edit it so it mounts every time.
[06:01] <Weber> THX-1138, I follewed the instructions on wiki.ubuntu.com.
[06:02] <Weber> followed*
[06:02] <priher> so, using internet, some another files that needs to be installed for network options?
[06:02] <richie_> dabaR: right i've ran it.
[06:02] <ubund> !schedule
[06:02] <ubotu> Ubuntu uses a strict timetable for releases, which means that sometimes newly released programs miss the timetable. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases for more. Edgy schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseSchedule
[06:02] <THX-1138> v4l - is old and uneeded. record isn't needed really  either. dbe i don't know about.
[06:02] <priher> or should be adjustment?
[06:02] <yggdrasil> dabar that didnt work..
[06:03] <ikehack> i cant use beryl and xgl
[06:03] <ikehack> so messed up i gave up
[06:03] <dabaR> richie_: copy and paste "/dev/hdb2        /mnt/hdb2   ntfs users     0       0
[06:03] <dabaR> no "
[06:03] <sami> hi every one
[06:03] <dabaR> ikehack: there is a #ubuntu-xgl, tried?
[06:03] <richie_> dabaR: below everything else?
[06:03] <THX-1138> ikehack - neither can i. - still looking for transparency? drop shadows? try xcompmgr and transset.
[06:04] <Paddy_EIRE> is there a suite of applictaions or a list at the very least to show what apps tie in to the "Web 2.0" idea in ubuntu
[06:04] <dabaR> yggdrasil: ls /dev and cross your fingers?
[06:04] <sami> guys i need help
[06:04] <dabaR> richie
[06:04] <THX-1138> ikehack: Wobbly windows and a whirling desk made me dizzy anhow. - lol
[06:04] <dabaR> richie_: yes.
[06:04] <Weber> THX-1138, ok. Now I have done the x-conf, what shall I do know ?
[06:04] <dabaR> !helpme
[06:04] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[06:04] <richie_> dabaR: and will this requrie a reboot now or will it just work?
[06:05] <dabaR> richie_: run sudo mount -a
[06:05] <dabaR> richie_: that remounts everything in fstab
[06:05] <THX-1138> Weber - make a copy and reboot
[06:05] <Weber> THX-1138, shall I write this ? sudo nvidia-glx-config enable
[06:05] <richie_> dabaR: and will this just work every time now?
[06:05] <sureshot> hey THX-1138 how are you today
[06:05] <Weber> THX-1138, Why do shall I make a copy ?
[06:06] <sami> guys when i try install any porgram with apt-get i get error .... this E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.
[06:06] <th3_d4r3d3vi1> he every1....me runnin xgl/beryl on dapper
[06:06] <THX-1138> Weber - hm - i don't remember that being asked anywhere. load the glx module    modules  glx
[06:06] <yggdrasil> is a micrphone /dev/dsp
[06:06] <dabaR> richie_: it should, but I can not predict future, so a reboot is needed in that case too, in order to determine, that is. It does work that way, though. If you had ran sudo mount -a, and can still see the files in /mnt/hdb2, thenit should work from now on.
[06:06] <th3_d4r3d3vi1> trbl is i cant make a screenshot
[06:06] <ikehack> someone was heloing me in here eairler
[06:06] <ikehack> didnt really help
[06:06] <th3_d4r3d3vi1> it appears corrupted for some reason
[06:06] <Weber> THX-1138, I will restart now, ok ?
[06:06] <seamus7> Hi all ... anyone available to help me figure out a sudden problem on my system? 1) I added Kubuntu-Desktop and logged into Kubuntu. Fine.      2) I rebooted and chose my default Ubuntu session and now I can't access the internet, some system apps won't start: Networking, Services, Disks      3) I can't even access my DSL Modem/Router admin screen from the browser 4) I am connecting to the internet fine on my LiveCD right now. Could this possibly be a sign o
[06:06] <ikehack> XGL is running in a windows
[06:07] <ikehack> beryl-manager isnt set to beryl as a desktop theme
[06:07] <THX-1138> Weber - make a copy of any file that you have that gives you a desktop. - the command line is painful.
[06:07] <ikehack> and its not working
[06:07] <richie_> dabaR: argh, bad news, i'm getting permission errors for hdb2
[06:07] <Weber> THX-1138, I dont know what you mean by my dekstop ?
[06:08] <th3_d4r3d3vi1> can nybody help me??
[06:08] <Homer> how do I reload x
[06:08] <stefg_vm> seamus, that's more like a kernel/network-configuration problem and shouldn't be related to installing kubuntu-desktop. Did a new kernel slip in with it?
[06:08] <th3_d4r3d3vi1> beryl runnin fine and cant make a screenshot to showoff*sigh*
[06:08] <THX-1138> Weber - if you get stuck - enable VESA as your video driver. still stuck at the command line use irssi to connect irc and we'll sort it out.
[06:08] <yggdrasil> this plugin is telling me to open up /dev/dsp but im not sure if thats the correct device to open
[06:08] <Weber> ok
[06:08] <dabaR> richie_: change the line to /dev/hdb2        /mnt/hdb2   ntfs users, umask=0222     0       0
[06:08] <Weber> s u in a moment,.
[06:08] <dabaR> Then sudo mount -a and see whether that helped.
[06:09] <seamus7> stefg_vm: I didn't cath that if it did happen.l
[06:09] <seamus7> 'catch'
[06:09] <dabaR> Homer: alt-ctrl-backspace, or sudo invoke-rc.d gdm restart
[06:09] <THX-1138> Weber - If it gives errors and you can't get a graphical interface use the VESA driver temporarily.
[06:09] <Paddy_EIRE> !drak3d
[06:09] <richie_> dabaR: error saying: [mntent] : line 8 in /etc/fstab is bad
[06:09] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about drak3d - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:10] <sureshot> THX-11
[06:10] <stefg_vm> seamus7: so you're on a live-CD now and have access to yur installed system, right?
[06:10] <seamus7> stefg_vm: yes
[06:10] <THX-1138> Good Morning sureshot
[06:10] <sureshot> THX=1138 that is how i got ubuntu to reconize my 17" laptop moniotr
[06:11] <sureshot> THX-1138 that is how i got ubuntu to reconize my 17" laptop moniotr
[06:11] <dabaR> richie_: there should be no space in between the comma and umask.
[06:11] <stefg_vm> seamus7: so can you open a terminal, and mount your installed ubuntu-root partition to /mnt from the live CD
[06:11] <THX-1138> sureshot - VESA mode?
[06:11] <sureshot> THX-1138 untill i got the  correct drivers that is
[06:11] <Paddy_EIRE> are there any web hosting services that tie into the opnsource and free minded attitude that linux projects
[06:11] <Paddy_EIRE> *opensource
[06:11] <sureshot> THX-1138 vesa mode correct
[06:11] <richie_> dabaR: ah, still the permission is bad, should it not be umask=0777?
[06:11] <THX-1138> sureshot - I am curious. did enabling/disabling the framebuffer option help?
[06:12] <seamus7> stefg_vm: once I get the specific dev/??? for my root partition... what's the command I would use: mnt ???
[06:12] <sureshot> THX-1138 no it did not... just set it at a max of 1027-768 and you will be fine untill the proper drivers were installed
[06:13] <stefg_vm> seamus7: it would be 'sudo mount /dev/hd[foo]  /mnt'
[06:13] <THX-1138> sureshot - ok.
[06:13] <seamus7> stefg_vm: ok one moment
[06:13] <sureshot> THX-1138 what kind of care are we worrking with here
[06:13] <sureshot> care=dard
[06:13] <dabaR> richie_: hm...let me read.
[06:13] <sureshot> care=card
[06:14] <wims> does anybody know of an eqvalient of WinAmp that can be used to listen to Shoutcast radio ?
[06:14] <richie_> dabaR: you want me to paste something for you? the contents of my fstab?
[06:14] <dabaR> richie_: ya
[06:14] <sureshot> THX-1138 spent most of the night in the er still no over all the morph i was given
[06:14] <THX-1138> sureshot - honestly i have forgotten the model 440mx i believe
[06:14] <Rookie-> !shoutcast
[06:14] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about shoutcast - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:14] <stefg_vm> wims that's trivial... vlc, listen come to my mind first
[06:14] <cyzie> hello, i have abit board (abit nf7-s2). and i have 2 hdds (80GB SATA). i plan to install xubuntu on top of it. is there any advice/tips/comment/hightlight on my new setup ? thanks
[06:15] <wims> stefg_vm,  can VLC listen to shoutcast radio ?
[06:15] <stefg_vm> !multimedia
[06:15] <ubotu> For multimedia codecs see: https://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html and for applications see this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MultimediaApplications
[06:15] <Rookie-> wims,  think you can do that with xmms
[06:15] <sureshot> THX-1138 that is an ati correct
[06:15] <richie_> dabaR: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26761/
[06:15] <THX-1138> sureshot - I hope you are feeling better. - the er is never fun. even for doctors and nurses.
[06:15] <THX-1138> sureshot nvidia an older card
[06:15] <stefg_vm> wims: AFAIK yes. never tried coz I#m alast.fm junkie :-)
[06:15] <th3_d4r3d3vi1> im runnin beryl on an Xpress 200 based pc with ati drivers.........beryl is runnin fine but the prob is i cant make screenshots....screenshots made usin prntscreen appear corrupted............but strangely screenthots of indivudual windws captured usin alt+print screen come out fine...............any solution to this??
[06:16] <Wheelybin> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tu6uMDfBN88 here we go, thanks to your help here this video is now uploaded!
[06:16] <sureshot> THX-1138 my eyes are going bad on me played a game that casued real bad pain and they though i was having  a stroke so a cat scan and a lumbar puncture (spinal tap) that was not fun
[06:16] <Tampler> Where i can find Ice IceWeasel.deb packet  for Ubuntu 6.06 ?
[06:17] <sureshot> THX-1138 you could alway down load the driver put on the disk and load it at install time does it not give you that ability
[06:17] <dabaR> richie_: remove the "users,", so just umask, then remoun
[06:17] <Rookie-> !iceweasel
[06:17] <THX-1138> sureshot - yes, my wife had a similar problem 4 years ago. - she lost sight in one eye. - she is fine now.
[06:17] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about iceweasel - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:17] <Rookie-> !ice
[06:17] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ice - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:17] <sureshot> THX-1138 hope this means somthing for you but i will put you all on my prayer list...
[06:18] <Tampler> Its a some GNU version of Mozilla
[06:18] <richie_> dabaR: still no luck, it is the permissions error still
[06:18] <THX-1138> My mother always told me getting old isn't for "Sissy's" - lol
[06:18] <jhjp> i have a problem: i want to build a little server: samba, ftp, apache, mysql, ssh  -  and nothing else! How can i uninstall all the needless packages???
[06:18] <pandamonium> is there someone who can help me make sense of what's dumped in xsession-errors?
[06:18] <Rookie-> Tampler, seems like there is no such pkg to ubuntu
[06:19] <seamus7> stefg_vm: I ran the command to mount my root file system
[06:19] <Tampler> Yes maube i finded only tar.gz
[06:19] <dabaR> richie_: what is your system username?
[06:19] <Rookie-> ubotu knows almost everything ;)
[06:19] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about knows almost everything ;) - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:19] <richie_> dabaR_: richie
[06:19] <sureshot> THX-1138 i dont know that much about nvidia i hava all ati cards for sume silly reason like cost
[06:19] <pandamonium> ubotu xsession-errors
[06:19] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xsession-errors - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:20] <voosuz> Hey, my ubuntu hangs during boot at: Checking file systems.... \n fsck 1.39 (29-May-2006) ... no disk activity whatsoever. what filesystems does it want to check there?
[06:20] <THX-1138> sureshot - The worst part of the entire experience was a cash strapped doctor that offered a very risky operation as a "fix" - we couldn't afford it. didn't have the procedure done and she is fine.
[06:20] <th3_d4r3d3vi1> my screenshots coming out corrupted.................ny idea why??
[06:21] <stefg> seamus7: then check in /mnt/boot if there's more than one kernel (vmlinuz-2.6.15-blah)
[06:21] <sureshot> THX-1138 good for you man i only see docs like that are rich LOL and refered by my family doc
[06:21] <dabaR> richie_: try /dev/hdb2        /mnt/hdb2      ntfs    uid=richie,gid=richie,umask=0222     0       0
[06:22] <THX-1138> sureshot - psst we are off topic - nice of them not to say anything.
[06:22] <seamus7> I see vmlinuz-2.6.15-23-386  and vmlinuz-2.6.15-27-386 and two versions for most other items listed there
[06:23] <sureshot> THX-1138 i noticed i will be good LOLOLOL
[06:23] <seamus7> stefg: see above sorry
[06:23] <sureshot> and thanks all for letting me bable on like bablon 5
[06:23] <richie_> dabaR: this is silly, it's still saying i don't have the neccassary permissions required to view "hdb2" i don't understand
[06:24] <Rookie-> try sudo cd /dir
[06:24] <stefg> seamus7: ok, then i'd simply try to boot one of the older kernels for testing and see if the problem persist. You might have received a newer kernel with the kubuntu install that needs a reconfigure of the network
[06:25] <Rookie-> how come so many uses i386 when the common kernel today is i686 ... ?
[06:25] <stefg> Doesn't make a drastic difference :-)
[06:25] <Rookie-> ohh ? hmmm made that on my puter
[06:26] <stefg> even the 386 kernel self-optimizes on newer hardware
[06:26] <Rookie-> new modules ....
[06:26] <THX-1138> Rookie - For maximum compatibility. - many have older machines.
[06:26] <Rookie-> yea, you prolly right
[06:26] <Weber> THX-1138, It still doesnt work
[06:26] <Weber> What was the option you wanted me to put in.?
[06:27] <richie_> dabaR: would it not work to give it the same things hda1 has? "defaults,errors=remount-ro 0       1"
[06:27] <steveire> If I do kate & I can still use the command line in konsole. What if I only did kate and now want to use that shell again without closing kate? I read it in linuxcommand.org before, but that site is donw.
[06:27] <dabaR> richie_: not likely, cause it is a different file system=different optiions
[06:28] <richie_> dabaR: ah, i see.
[06:28] <dabaR> richie_: not sure why it gives you that error, really, those options should do it.
[06:28] <mister_roboto> steveire: make sure you start your program (kate in this case) by putting it in the background if you wanna keep using that shell.  put in the background by appending & on the end of your command
[06:28] <seamus7> stefg: would I boot into Grub using the 'esc' key on restart? is that how I would do that? and then what would it mean to have two kernels? should i get rid of the older one? is ubuntu using the old one and kubuntu using the new one? thanks for the help by the way.
[06:28] <THX-1138> Weber - If sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg didn't work i wold try either a google search for your card model and xorg.conf or boot the live cd if it works better and peek at the xorg.conf file.
[06:28] <richie_> dabaR: is the =0222 chmodding? wouldn't it be better to do 0777 or 777?
[06:28] <Willster> hey, does anyone know of a program that will let you mount ISO/NRG/bin-cue/etc in linux?
[06:28] <steveire> mister_roboto: I read a way to detach it after executing the command. You don't know how?
[06:29] <cyzie> hello, i have abit board (abit nf7-s2). and i have 2 hdds (80GB SATA). i plan to install xubuntu on top of it. is there any advice/tips/comment/hightlight on my new setup ? thanks
[06:29] <mister_roboto> steveire: after it's already running?  hmmm no
[06:29] <dabaR> richie_: umask is opposite from chmod. it tells what permissions to take away, so 2 would be taking away the write perms.
[06:29] <Paddy_EIRE> !fluxbox
[06:29] <ubotu> fluxbox is a lightweight and responsive window manager for GNU/Linux. For how to set it up and more information see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Fluxbox
[06:29] <steveire> mister_roboto: http://<IP_ADDRESS>/search?q=cache:u1RqIAv0dS0J:www.linuxcommand.org/lts0080.php+site:linuxcommand.org+lesson+8&hl=en&gl=ie&ct=clnk&cd=1
[06:29] <steveire> found it
[06:29] <Weber> THX-1138, ok. But the line you wanted me to put into my xorg.conf before, what was that ?
[06:29] <THX-1138> Willster - /there likely is a solution. if you find it or a way to mount alcohol 120% images i need the info too.
[06:30] <mister_roboto> steveire: how's that? i'm curious
[06:30] <richie_> dabaR: i see, but i will wanting write permissions as i will be adding more audio to it..
[06:30] <steveire> mister_roboto: hmm?
[06:30] <richie_> be wanting*
[06:30] <mister_roboto> steveire: you said you found it?
[06:30] <THX-1138> Weber - under the video card   device     option "RenderAccel" "true"
[06:30] <ianmacgregor> How is this going to work? After Edgy is released (and subsequent versions) will support for Dapper remain in this channel since it has LTS?
[06:30] <stefg> seamus7: Yup, pressing esc at boot gets you to a menu where you can choose between your installed kernels. But the system uses either the one or the other, that's not affected by the choice of desktop. As you can see, it's handy to have older kernels around that you can boot in case of a problem
[06:30] <steveire> google cache site:linuxcommand.org detach
[06:31] <mister_roboto> steveire: thanks
[06:31] <holy_cow> what is the command to kick my other nick offline?
[06:31] <jrib> holy_cow: ghost
[06:31] <Weber> THX-1138, ?
[06:31] <holy_cow> jrib, dank!
[06:31] <holy_cow> e
[06:31] <ianmacgregor> holy_cow: /msg nickserv ghost
[06:31] <seamus7> stefg: oh ok. so you think that probably that newer kernel is being used when I boot up and its simply just not configured?
[06:31] <THX-1138> holy_cow: ghost  /msg nickserv help
[06:31] <holycow> THX-1138, thank you
[06:32] <atlef> what kernel does a amd x2 require for optimal performance?
[06:32] <SurfnKid> does ubuntu dapper support "Project Looking Glass" ?
[06:32] <stefg> seamus7: my theory is that you got 2.6.15-27 while installing kubuntu-desktop and that it ( /of course/, i might add ) is causing trouble...
[06:33] <THX-1138> Weber - video card -  device - option "RenderAcel" "true"
[06:33] <THX-1138> "RenderAccel"
[06:33] <atlef> !kernel
[06:33] <ubotu> kernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux') - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel.  You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild
[06:33] <atlef> !smb
[06:34] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about smb - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:34] <stefg> !samba
[06:34] <ubotu> samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[06:34] <ianmacgregor> !samba
[06:34] <stefg> hehe
[06:34] <THX-1138> atlef > !samba
[06:34] <atlef> smb kernel?
[06:34] <seamus7> stefg; what would be my next step if your diagnosis turns out to be true? Is there an easy way to configure the new kernel or can I just set the system to use the old working kernel by default?
[06:35] <THX-1138> atlef - samba will work with every ubuntu kernel
[06:35] <atlef> not samba, kernel for dual core
[06:36] <atlef> !smp
[06:36] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about smp - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:36] <THX-1138> seamus7 - yes you can configure the new kernel or yes you can use  sudo nano /boot/grub/menu.lst to change the kernel booted.
[06:37] <THX-1138> atlef - smp is symetric multi processing a kernel for multi-core systems.
[06:37] <stefg> seamus7: actually it isn't hard to make the new kernel work. That depends on your NIC, maybe you need a restricted module and do not have linux-restricted-modules-2.6.15-27 installed.... whatever, try if you can connect to the net with an older kernel and come back here on your installed system if this is the case
[06:37] <atlef> needed for x2 cpu
[06:38] <THX-1138> atlef - yes. multicore
[06:38] <seamus7> thx-1138: oh ok thx. do i need to unmount my root partition now.
[06:38] <seamus7> stefg: oh ok great thx. do i need to unmount my root partition now?
[06:38] <THX-1138> seamus7 - take a peek at the menu.lst file
[06:38] <THX-1138> !grub
[06:38] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[06:39] <stefg> seamus7: that'll be doone during shutdown
[06:39] <atlef> ok,
[06:40] <seamus7> thx-1138: ok i'm looking at it in nano right now
[06:40] <SurfnKid> would anyone say windows vista is nice, or close to good to move to? (not that im going to, just want someone's opinion)
[06:40] <THX-1138> atlef - if you choose a 64 bit kernel - most packages applications are 32 bit. - I would choose 32 bit in your place.
[06:40] <richie_> dabaR: have you not thought of anything else that may be an issue?
[06:41] <Weber> THX-1138, May I query you ?
[06:41] <THX-1138> Weber - no
[06:41] <Weber> THX-1138, k.
[06:41] <atlef> but a smp kernel, or?
[06:41] <seamus7> stefg: oh ok.
[06:41] <THX-1138> smp kernel yes, 32 bit kernel yes too
[06:42] <atlef> thank you very much
[06:43] <THX-1138> atlef - I admire you for speaking two languages and using linux. - it is very challenging in english.
[06:43] <porcho> hi. I need to set some environment variables right after a user login. I'm trying to use GDM PostLogin script, with no sucess. can someone help me?
[06:44] <stefg> porcho: use .bashrc
[06:44] <richie_> Hello can anybody help me? I have mounted an NTFS harddrive, but for some reason I do not have the permissions to access it.
[06:44] <Rookie-> you can reaad ntfs but not write
[06:44] <porcho> stefg: but .bashrc isn't supposed to execute just when that user opens a terminal inside gnome, for example?
[06:45] <stefg> porcho: .bashrc is executed right after login... just as yyou need it
[06:45] <atlef> most of the documentation is in english, or that is to say most is written in english, and later translated. so if you are impatient, like me, you learn. :-)
[06:46] <seamus7> THX-1138: I have my menu.lst open ....
[06:46] <SurfnKid> why is vista such a piece of %@#
[06:46] <THX-1138> atlef - I tried arabic - it was impossible for me.
[06:47] <atlef> hehe
[06:47] <Willster> THX-1138:  I believe I found a solution that will let you mount non-ISO files.  Two programs:  Kiso & AcetoneISO.  They don't let you directly mount files like MDS/nrg/etc...but will convert files to .ISO for you
[06:47] <pygi> anyone have HP Photosmart 8250 perhaps?
[06:47] <raghu206> pls someone help saying what is UDF
[06:47] <THX-1138> seamus7 - you will need an example from a webpage - i could talk you through it here but likely it would be easier to see a sample.
[06:48] <atlef> i could also speak/write german, but that was 13years ago.
[06:48] <johnny_> ello everyone
[06:48] <lupine_85> Willster: could always use bchunk or nrg2iso or whatever
[06:48] <SurfnKid> i really hate microsoft, first they say their software is the best, and we all depended on it, now linux has improved with an infinite list of enhancements, and what does microsoft do??  they want to make their crap look just like linux...
[06:48] <lupine_85> mds is a new one on me, mind
[06:48] <THX-1138> Willster -AWESOME!
[06:49] <Willster> THX-1138: kiso is available through apt-get, not sure about acetone
[06:49] <stefg> SurfnKid: please take that to #ubuntu-offtopic
[06:49] <SurfnKid> :\
[06:49] <mister_roboto> SurfnKid: interesting, i didn't know linux had a "look"  ;)
[06:49] <Gilnim> hi guys! I need a bittorrent client that is able to load several torrents at the same time.  So you have any other ideas. (I don't want to oben for each torrent a new window - like bittornado does)
[06:49] <mnk> hello all
[06:49] <johnny_> i need some help with installing firestarter could someone help me i am new at ubuntu and just installed it
[06:49] <Willster> why does azureus suck?
[06:49] <SurfnKid> mister_roboto, i meant the window manager, xgl, transparency, etc
[06:49] <Gilnim> hi mnk
[06:50] <SAM_theman> whats up with flash on ubuntu ???
[06:50] <Gilnim> because it puts out several failures
[06:50] <mnk> i installed edgy and it was working fine. then i just installed all the updates, rebooted and i can't get into the gnome environment anymore - the screen just goes blank.
[06:50] <stefg> Gilnim: torrent with wine
[06:50] <SAM_theman> I can't play videos or listen to music??
[06:50] <lupine_85> ktorrent? :)
[06:50] <Willster> Gilnim:  do you have the latest java release?
[06:50] <stefg> !edgy > mnk
[06:50] <THX-1138> seamus7 - cp your menu.lst to menu.lst.bak  okay?
[06:50] <mnk> !edgy
[06:50] <ubotu> edgy is the current development version of Ubuntu. Version 6.10, codename "Edgy Eft". For support head to #ubuntu+1. For its release schedule, see !schedule
[06:51] <Timo90> SAM what browser are you using
[06:51] <Gilnim> ktorrent is maily for kde - so i don't want to use it, even though i use it at the moment
[06:51] <mnk> thanks stefg
[06:51] <Gilnim> Willster: Why not ...
[06:51] <seamus7> THX-1138: ok. i got lost somewhere in my messages between you and stefg ... THX-1138: are you trying to help me configure my new kernel? i'm about to reboot and see if my old kernel is working properly.
[06:52] <Gilnim> Willster: My problem is that I have 64 bit Ubuntu.
[06:52] <SAM_theman> firefox
[06:52] <SAM_theman> its happing on my dads comp
[06:52] <Timo90> install flash
[06:52] <mister_roboto> mnk: you might try reconfiguring your X
[06:52] <SAM_theman> it works
[06:52] <porcho> stefg: worked like a charm! thanks a lot!
[06:53] <SAM_theman> but when i go to googlevideo and play some videos its soo late when the people talk
[06:53] <mnk> mister_roboto, how do i do that?
[06:53] <stefg> seamus7: Yes, please try that first. Then you know more about your problem
[06:53] <SAM_theman> and i can't play any music from radioblog .com
[06:53] <mnk> mister_roboto, i do remember some command to do that but i have forgotten what it is
[06:53] <SAM_theman> it works on windows
[06:53] <Willster> Gilnim:  you could try like stefg said, and use uTorrent under wine...very straightforward exe-only client without the java
[06:53] <mister_roboto> mnk: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-org
[06:54] <porcho> stefg: I still find it odd, though. user's .bashrc will just run when that user opens up a terminal inside gnome, for example. why system-wide .bashrc works in a different way?
[06:54] <mister_roboto> mnk: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg, that is
[06:54] <stefg> porcho: ask Kernighan, Ritchie and Thompson
[06:54] <mnk> thanks mister_roboto; someone else just told me to install ubuntu-desktop whioch i have done. do i have to do what u said still?
[06:54] <mnk> ?
[06:54] <SAM_theman> and this used to work on 5.10
[06:55] <SAM_theman> I and its pissing me off
[06:55] <Hostile> Can you guys tell me what soundcard I have from the output of "lspci" ?
[06:55] <Gilnim> Willster: I didn't want to use a windows application with wine because I could imagine that it would slow down my PC
[06:55] <mister_roboto> mnk: well... first see if what you have done works :)  one variable at a time
[06:55] <Timo90> im trying the web site out
[06:55] <mnk> ok thanks mister_roboto
[06:55] <mnk> :)
[06:56] <Willster> Ginim: Fair enough, not sure if I would trust the stability either...does sun not have working new java releases for 64-bit?
[06:56] <SAM_theman> Look here be honest when u play this flash movie is the sound effects late when jet li punches
[06:56] <SAM_theman> http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-4510040204817422637&q=jet+li
[06:56] <Timo90> thanks i will try that
[06:57] <SAM_theman> I have a AMD X2 3800+ is that a problem on a 32-bit ubutnu ?
[06:57] <Kingsqueak> X2 4200+ works fine with amd64
[06:57] <johnny_> when i try to install firestarter_1.0.3-1.1_i386.deb, i get an error saying "Error: dependency is not satisfiable: libgnutis11"
[06:58] <Random_Transit> hey, quick question...is there any way for me to reinstall windows on one drive and not have it screw with GRUB?
[06:58] <johnny_> can anyone help?
[06:58] <Gilnim> Willster: I'm not sure. I'll check that.   But the problem is not that asureus doesn't work. It just puts out annoying failures
[06:59] <Kingsqueak> johnny_ did you try installing it with apt-get ?
[06:59] <Gilnim> Random_Transit: interesting question!
[06:59] <Willster> Gilnim: I had the same problem until I updated Java.  Very poor download speeds, would not recognize TCP/UDP ports as forwarding a lot of the time, randomly closing, etc.
[06:59] <lupine_85> Random_Transit: if it's a separate physical drive, then yes
[06:59] <lupine_85> if not, then no
[06:59] <Willster> Gilnim:  But now it works far better than Ktorrent
[06:59] <Gilnim> Willster: Looks similar to me
[06:59] <Random_Transit> lupine_85, it is a separate drive
[06:59] <Gilnim> the problems
[07:00] <Timo90> The video seems o have no sounds ;)
[07:00] <johnny_> yes
[07:00] <johnny_> i get a message stating
[07:00] <lupine_85> in that case it should overwrite the MBR of the drive it's installed on, leaving the other untouched
[07:00] <Random_Transit> nice.
[07:01] <Loof> Heya, two quick little laptop questions...  (1) How do I turn off the 'click' functionality of the touchpad... It's waaay oversensitive and I'm constantly clicking when I want to move the mouse.
[07:01] <johnny_> Reading package lists... Done... uilding dependency tree... Done... E: Couldn't find package firestarter
[07:01] <Random_Transit> so it won't look for the first drive on the IDE channel and wipe it's MBR?
[07:01] <Xavier101> does anyone know anything about python programming?
[07:01] <Loof> (2) I've got a 'Super Savage' chipset, the vesa driver works fine... but using the 'savage' driver gives me only 640x480
[07:01] <Loof> Xavier: Yes
[07:01] <Timo90> Its the video not your system
[07:01] <Kingsqueak> johnny_ you have multiverse in your sources.list file?
[07:01] <porcho> Xavier101: a bit
[07:01] <Random_Transit> Xavier101, try #python
[07:01] <Random_Transit> ^_~
[07:01] <atlef> bye, will now reboot for a smp kernel install, wish me luck :-)
[07:01] <Xavier101> Random_Transit, tried it
[07:02] <Random_Transit> wow
[07:02] <Random_Transit> ok
[07:02] <johnny_> i have no idea i am new at this
[07:02] <Random_Transit> lol
[07:02] <sureshot> hey all is there a command line way to format a hard drive that wont let it mount as it formats this is getting annoying
[07:02] <Loof> atlef: You don't need to on recent kernels
[07:02] <Xavier101> so does python allow you to create GUI interfaces?
[07:02] <Random_Transit> lupine_85, so it won't look for the first drive on the IDE channel and wipe it's MBR?
[07:02] <Loof> Xavier: RTFM
[07:02] <porcho> Xavier101: I use gtk to do this
[07:03] <Kingsqueak> johnny_ o.k., /etc/apt/sources.list enables where your system will look for packages to install and update, basically go read that file and uncomment the multiverse and restricted entries there if the description looks good to you, then do  apt-get update, then try installing firestarter again
[07:03] <Loof> Xavier: You could answer that question in 2 seconds on google.com
[07:03] <lupine_85> It shouldn't do
[07:03] <lupine_85> to be safe, you could disconnect the other drive first
[07:03] <stefg> sureshot: a mkfs.ext3 will surely not mount the drive anyway while makeng the filesystem
[07:03] <Xavier101> Loof, errm....ok thanks
[07:03] <Loof> I personally struggled with both issues I asked about for a few hours before asking here.
[07:03] <porcho> Xavier: try http://www.pygtk.org/ and http://glade.gnome.org/
[07:03] <Loof> porcho: Good call, specific sites.
[07:04] <Loof> g'luck Xavier
[07:04] <johnny_> k
[07:04] <sureshot> stefg thanks but if i may ask can you give the the full syntax i think the it is /dev/sdb
[07:05] <dan2> ahoy
[07:05] <dan2> Which of the big appservers supports EJB3 and has a decent ESB implementation?
[07:05] <lupine_85> sudo mkfs.ext3 /dev/sdb<partition-number> ?
[07:05] <Loof> So, anyone have a clue on the two X11 config issues I've got?
[07:05] <johnny_> whats uncomment mean Kingsueak?
[07:05] <GortiZ> !beryl
[07:05] <ubotu> beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ Please see #ubuntu-xgl for help with beryl. Thank You.
[07:05] <Kingsqueak> johnny_ http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#Repositories
[07:06] <thcrw8383> hi
[07:06] <mnk> coooooooooooooooooooooooool
[07:06] <mnk> :D
[07:06] <mnk> mister_roboto, THANKS
[07:06] <mnk> mister_roboto, it worked :)
[07:06] <thcrw8383> Ubuntu is soooooooooooooo cool
[07:06] <Random_Transit> thcrw8383, yes, yes it is.
[07:06] <mister_roboto> mnk: great! glad to hear it :)   running edgy here too on a couple of machines.
[07:07] <Ignatius> how to change intel graphics driver, manual says through yast but naturally ubuntu ain't using RPM'. got the tar of driver.
[07:07] <dan2> damn it wrong room
[07:07] <porcho> Loff: I can't even the touchpad to work here...:-((
[07:07] <willys_fueguino> !edgy
[07:07] <ubotu> edgy is the current development version of Ubuntu. Version 6.10, codename "Edgy Eft". For support head to #ubuntu+1. For its release schedule, see !schedule
[07:08] <willys_fueguino> !schedule
[07:08] <ubotu> Ubuntu uses a strict timetable for releases, which means that sometimes newly released programs miss the timetable. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases for more. Edgy schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseSchedule
[07:08] <atlef> and that was all, now we have dual core
[07:08] <Loof> Mines oversensitive to the point of being annoying
[07:08] <Loof> I can't navigate the menus because touching it to move... clicks on the menu item unless I -barely- touch it
[07:08] <Loof> Oh well
[07:08] <kkrizka> I get the following error when installing cpanel-data: "subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1"
[07:09] <Dominus_Suus> how does one get in touch with a package manager to report an out-of-date package?
[07:09] <boink> doesn't exist
[07:10] <lupine_85> kkrizka: what it says on the tin. the package is running a script (postinst) which is returning an error - so the installation is aborted
[07:10] <atlef> Dominus_Suus : go to #ubuntu-motu
[07:10] <Dominus_Suus> thanks atlef
[07:10] <lupine_85> there are package managers?!
[07:10] <mister_roboto> Dominus_Suus: there's a web page here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Packages
[07:10] <Dominus_Suus> lupine: well, I guess the technical term in 'package maintainer'
[07:11] <kkrizka> lupine_85: yeah I know, I get the same problem when trying to remove the package
[07:11] <boink> why does it install postfix as well?
[07:11] <bkudria> will the new nvidia drivers make it into the dapper archive?
[07:11] <kkrizka> lupine_85: I tried reinstalling it hoping that could fix it
[07:11] <lupine_85> sudo dpkg -r --force-all <package-name> to get rid of it
[07:12] <lupine_85> then if you really want it in, change the -r to -i, and <package-name> to <deb-file>
[07:12] <kkrizka> lupine_85: "subprocess post-removal script returned error exit status 1" still
[07:12] <lupine_85> not really a great idea, though - best to report a bug, or fix the underlying problem
[07:12] <klonoa> how do i open a .rar filetype
[07:12] <sureshot> ok i can use mkfs.ext3 to make an ext3 can i use mkfs.fat32 as will and will i have to limmit the 250gb drive to a smally pattion
[07:13] <kkrizka> lupine_85:  I'll do that then
[07:13] <pmjdebruijn> Hi, I accidentally enabled deadkeys during the Edgy install procedure... deadkeys is massively ennoying... how can I disable them systemwide, so console, X, GNOME... the works...
[07:13] <klonoa> i have right clicked and selected extract but it says its not supported or something
[07:13] <vanRijn> um
[07:13] <vanRijn> re, all
[07:13] <pmjdebruijn> sureshot, mkfs.vfat
[07:13] <stefg> sureshot: avoid any fat32 partiton over, say 70-80 GB... no fun
[07:14] <sureshot> pmjdegruijn is that a dos format not fumilure with that trum
[07:14] <sureshot> ok
[07:14] <pmjdebruijn> sureshot, fumilure? trum?
[07:14] <vanRijn> what kernel version is the base for the ubuntu linux-image-2.6.15-27 one?  is it just 2.6.15?  or is it <IP_ADDRESS>?
[07:14] <mister_roboto> klonoa: unrar?
[07:14] <pmjdebruijn> vanRijn, take a look at the changelog
[07:14] <bionoid> klonoa: sudo apt-get install rar
[07:14] <VViki> I mounted my hd in / what do I do??!??!
[07:15] <sureshot> pmjdebruijn is vfat compatable with ntfs
[07:15] <VViki> im using the live cd
[07:15] <Willster> yeah for some reason ark doesn't automatically have the package for unraring
[07:15] <GortiZ> !xgl
[07:15] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL)  -  Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager  -  Help in #ubuntu-xgl  -  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[07:15] <VViki> !mount
[07:15] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted  -  Formatting partitions: see the manual page for mkfs ("man mkfs")  -  Mounting partitions in Gnome: System -> Administration -> Disks
[07:15] <pmjdebruijn> sureshot, vfat isn't compatible with ntfs...
[07:15] <stefg> vanRijn: it's a heavily patched version. apt-get install linux-source will give you the source package
[07:15] <VViki> how do I umount my HD now?!?!
[07:15] <bkudria> will the new nvidia drivers make it into the dapper archive?
[07:15] <VViki> i mounted it over the live cd virtual disk
[07:15] <pmjdebruijn> VViki, over?
[07:16] <raghu206>  when i want to write iso file of size 2.5 GB for fat file system K3B gave an error message that bcz the file is greater the 2 Gb it shud be mounted with UDF pls someone solve this problem
[07:16] <pmjdebruijn> bkudria, probably not
[07:16] <vanRijn> stefg: I'm trying to help figure out whether https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.15/+bug/39518 is caused by ubuntu's patches or if it's in the base kernel source as well
[07:16] <klonoa> mister_roboto: yes unrar
[07:16] <sureshot> pmjdebruijn thanks was looking for a way to write to it from xp and ubuntu both as a back up had it is on a sata to usb converter
[07:16] <vanRijn> stefg: so I'm pulling down a kernel source from kernel.org and I'm not sure which one to use
[07:16] <klonoa> bionoid: i tryed that and got "Package rar is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[07:16] <klonoa> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[07:16] <klonoa> is only available from another source
[07:16] <klonoa> E: Package rar has no installation candidate
[07:16] <klonoa> "
[07:16] <pmjdebruijn> raghu206, fat can't handle anything over 2GB... it's a fat limitation... nothing you can do about it, except to use another filesystem
[07:16] <johnny_> Kingsqueak i did the add extra repositories and saved the file and went to install firestarter and still got that same error. and then i opened up terminal and typed in sudo apt-get install firestarter, and i get the same error
[07:16] <VViki> Im using the live CD, I mounted my HD in /
[07:16] <VViki> now I cant unmount it
[07:16] <bkudria> pmjdebruijn: oh. :(
[07:17] <Kingsqueak> johnny_ after you made the changes, did you do 'apt-get update' ?
[07:17] <bkudria> pmjdebruijn: do you know if they'll appear in eft?
[07:17] <vanRijn> stefg: looks like 2.6.15-23.35 pulled in <IP_ADDRESS>
[07:17] <pmjdebruijn> bkudria, probably... depends on how 'new', check packages.ubuntu.com and search for nvidia on edgy
[07:17] <johnny_> just apt-get update without sudo in the beginning
[07:17] <Kingsqueak> no, use sudo
[07:17] <johnny_> then yews
[07:17] <bkudria> pmjdebruijn: new as in they were released maybe an hour ago :)
[07:18] <Hostile> anyone know what sound modules I need for my Crystal 4236B chip?
[07:18] <Kingsqueak> johnny_ what does 'sudo apt-cache search firestarter' tell you?
[07:18] <johnny_> ok neermind
[07:18] <johnny_> it did an update :)
[07:18] <pmjdebruijn> bkudria, oh, than probably also not... but check packages.ubuntu.com
[07:18] <Kingsqueak> ;-)
[07:18] <stefg> vanRijn: in dubio pro kernel.org :-) I don't trust the ubuntu-kernels very much and now routinely use the latest stable vanilla-kernel... but your mileage may vary
[07:18] <pmjdebruijn> Hostile, isn't that an ISA card?
[07:18] <johnny_> reading package list 83%
[07:18] <ricanelite> Anyone here knows about MOL?
[07:18] <Hostile> pmjdebruijn, it might be, its onboard on this
[07:19] <pmjdebruijn> stefg, if the Ubuntu kernel don't work you should file a bug!!!
[07:19] <klonoa> whats your prefered program for unraring files ?
[07:19] <Kingsqueak> johnny_ it's pulling down quite a long list of new things you can now install with apt-get, will take a bit to finish
[07:19] <pmjdebruijn> vanRijn, the Ubuntu kernel should 'just' work
[07:19] <johnny_> kingsqueak i got an error in the terminal saying  GPG error: http://packages.freecontrib.org dapper Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY F120156012B83718
[07:19] <Kingsqueak> johnny_ you skipped a step in the wiki doc...go do the step to add the rep key
[07:19] <bkudria> pmjdebruijn: hmm, not yet.  thanks for the help!
[07:19] <vanRijn> stefg: heh.  no, absolutely.  I am using kernel.org's <IP_ADDRESS> with no problems whatsoever.  however, there's a nasty core-dumping bug I'm trying to help track down with the ubuntu stock kernel
[07:19] <johnny_> k
[07:19] <vanRijn> pmjdebruijn: yeah, I agree. however, see the bug I mentioned.
[07:20] <stefg> pmjdebruijn: after 10 bugreport (which are taken up after 6 months or so) you just want a working box and are tired of launchpad
[07:20] <seamus7> stefg: hi I booted (using Grub) into the old kernel but still had the same problems with accessing the internet or even my modem/router admin interface from the browser ... getting Disks, or Networking or Services to even start .... what do you think?
[07:20] <stonarmusic> i burned a game cd called 'descent' with k3b, and now i can't run the installer, is says its owned by root and there is a lock over the icon in nautilus, how do i change the permissions of this cd?
[07:20] <alfred_o> hello everybody
[07:20] <ubund> gdzie jest kosz w xubuntu?
[07:20] <Hostile> pmjdebruijn, any idea what modules I need for that sound?
[07:20] <jrib> !pl
[07:20] <ubotu> Mozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu-pl
[07:20] <atlef> hi alfred
[07:20] <pmjdebruijn> Hostile, not really... probably a module starten with 'cs'
[07:21] <alfred_o> i have a problem with xorg
[07:21] <stefg> seamus7: then we need a look at /etc/network/interfaces on your installed system
[07:21] <pmjdebruijn> Hostile, have a look in /lib/modules/`uname -r`/drivers/sound
[07:21] <stonarmusic> i tried to run the installer with wine, but it just hangs forever
[07:22] <alfred_o> i need a hand dealing with refresh rates
[07:22] <ricanelite> Anyone here knows about MOL?
[07:22] <seamus7> stefg: ok I've got interfaces open in nano
[07:23] <stefg> seamus7: does it have eth0 or eth1 mentioned somewhere?
[07:23] <skreet> anyone good with regular expressions?
[07:23] <jacked> is it possible to bridge my wireless and wired connections?
[07:24] <seamus7> stefg: auto lo
[07:24] <seamus7> iface lo inet loopback
[07:24] <seamus7> auto eth0
[07:24] <seamus7> iface eth0 inet dhcp
[07:24] <seamus7> auto eth1
[07:24] <seamus7> iface eth1 inet dhcp
[07:24] <seamus7> auto eth2
[07:24] <seamus7> iface eth2 inet dhcp
[07:24] <micahcowan> skreet: sure, ask away
[07:24] <seamus7> auto ath0
[07:24] <seamus7> iface ath0 inet dhcp
[07:24] <seamus7> auto wlan0
[07:24] <seamus7> iface wlan0 inet dhcp
[07:24] <micahcowan> seamus7, stop flooding...
[07:24] <seamus7> sorry
[07:24] <johnny_> Kingsqueak ok everything semmed to be ok after i did the key but after it installed firestarter i got an error stating Errors were encountered while processing:
[07:24] <johnny_>  clvm
[07:24] <johnny_>  redhat-cluster-suite
[07:24] <johnny_> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[07:24] <micahcowan> use pastebin next time, please, seamus7
[07:24] <stefg> seamus7: please use pastebin for things like that
[07:24] <skreet> micahcowan: should be a simple one but i'm not good with regexp's. Trying to make a regexp to remove all lines beginning with '#'. I got ^(?!#) but it's not taking. Where did I go wrong? :(
[07:24] <Shaezsche> have they fixed the edgy slow boot yet?
[07:24] <Kingsqueak> johnny_ not sure what to tell you there
[07:24] <seamus7> oh ok sorry
[07:25] <Shaezsche> edgy is taking 2 minutes for me to boot over twice of dapper. anyone know if this has been resolved
[07:25] <micahcowan> skreet, is this Perl? What's the full expression?
[07:25] <libdmb> hey, some really weird stuff is happening to linux for me
[07:25] <skreet> Well, i'm using it with grep.
[07:25] <johnny_> not good aye
[07:25] <skreet> And that's the full expression
[07:25] <libdmb> any of you use bind9 with ubuntu?
[07:25] <skreet> Thats all I want to do.
[07:25] <skreet> Lines that do not start with # :)
[07:25] <Hostile> pmjdebruijn, got it working modprobe snd-cs4236
[07:26] <martalli> Hostile:  What are you guys talking about?
[07:26] <Kingsqueak> skreet 'cat file.txt | sed -e 's/^#//'
[07:26] <SAM_theman> wow i get 8-11 thousand fps
[07:26] <Shaezsche> hellow?
[07:26] <Hostile> martalli, this sound chip on my old dell P2 box
[07:26] <micahcowan> skreet, (?!...) is a Perl expression. Use the -v option of grep instead. What you probably want is egrep: egrep -v '^#'
[07:26] <micahcowan> Kingsqueak, that will only substitute the first character of those lines.
[07:26] <stefg> seamus7: that looks complete. So you've got to figure out if all the kernels driver modules for your card are loaded, and then try if 'sudo dhclient' gives you a dhcp-lease from your router. But all this will only work in your installed system, not from the live CD
[07:26] <skreet> micah: So I had the right expression, wrong command? I was using grep -E
[07:27] <martalli> OK, just for a sec there I thought of my thinkad 600e, has a similar problem and its supposed to use cs4236 also
[07:27] <micahcowan> skreet, are you sure you don't want to include lines that start with whitespace followed by a #?
[07:27] <Kingsqueak> cat foo.txt | sed -e '/^#/d'
[07:27] <Shaezsche> edgy is taking 2 minutes for me to boot over twice of dapper. anyone know if this has been resolved
[07:27] <Kingsqueak> yeah sorry
[07:27] <seamus7> stefg: oh ok.
[07:27] <D_C> hello?
[07:27] <skreet> micah: I do, one step at a time.. :P
[07:27] <micahcowan> skreet, grep -E is exactly the same as egrep. Just take out the (?!...) bit and use the -v option.
[07:27] <johnny_> Kingsqueak
[07:27] <johnny_>  ok  well it install firestarter and its running now
[07:27] <skreet> micah: -v?
[07:27] <johnny_> so i guess its all good
[07:27] <D_C> can you read this or do i need to identify
[07:27] <micahcowan> skreet, -v = "print lines that don't match:"
[07:28] <Kingsqueak> johnny_ those errors are with something else you installed, thus why I'm unsure what they mean
[07:28] <skreet> micah: I see, well, why doesnt ?!# work, doesn't that mean one char that IS NOT a #?
[07:28] <stefg> seamus7: when was the last time it worked?
[07:28] <johnny_> i installed a cluster program
[07:28] <johnny_> i thought it had to do something with defragging
[07:28] <micahcowan> skreet, you could probably use your original expression with grep's -P (PCRE support) option.
[07:28] <skreet> ah
[07:28] <vanRijn> ricanelite: yes
[07:29] <skreet> So, if you don't mind, how can I add whitespace?
[07:29] <Kingsqueak> johnny_ stick to installing with apt until you get a bit more time with it
[07:29] <micahcowan> skreet, no. it's a perlism, and it only works with the parentheses as you used it.
[07:29] <johnny_> ok
[07:29] <D_C> does anyone know how to create a script example just to change directory and execute a file
[07:29] <johnny_> thank you so much for your help
[07:29] <johnny_> :)
[07:29] <Kingsqueak> no problem
[07:29] <jacked> is it possible to bridge my wireless and wired connections? (is this a stupid question?)
[07:29] <micahcowan> skreet, I'd personally use grep -E -v '^[[:space:] ] *#'
[07:30] <micahcowan> skreet, or you could use grep -P '^\s*(?!#)', I think
[07:30] <Kingsqueak> egrep -v ^#.*$ foo.txt
[07:30] <skreet> micah: egrep -v  '^[[:space:] ] *#' worked
[07:30] <VViki> do you know any download manager capable of openning many connections at once?
[07:30] <skreet> Thanks for all your help! :)
[07:30] <stefg> D_C: #!/bin/sh , cd /my/dir , sh myfile, exit 0
[07:30] <micahcowan> skreet, you're welcome! You may find it easier to stick with -P or use perl -ne in the future, if you're used to Perl's regexes.
[07:31] <VViki> do you know any download manager capable of openning many connections at once?
[07:31] <seamus7> stefg: yesterday ... i installed kubuntu-desktop and remember choosing an option NOT to configure something .... I logged into a kubuntu session and all worked fine. eventually yesterday I did a reboot of my system and I immediately noticed that my login screen was a Xubuntu splash ( I had once installed xubuntu-desktop and then uninstalled it) ... once I logged into Ubuntu (Gnome session) I didn't have any connectivity and some of my system apps weren't sta
[07:31] <skreet> micah: not used to anything,really, regexps are new on me :(
[07:31] <skreet> Bye, thanks again!
[07:31] <martalli> I've been running edgy for a few days, and there is a package "libggi2" that is constantly listed in the update-manager log, but is not selectable.  My son's edubuntu box is doing the same thing.
[07:31] <lupine_85> VViki: probably wget
[07:31] <Shaezsche> edgy is taking 2 minutes for me to boot over twice of dapper. anyone know if this has been resolved
[07:31] <martalli> I haven't had any obvious problems, but is something wrong,?
[07:33] <D_C> stefg this might seem stupid but what do i save the file as?
[07:33] <boink> edgy is still beta
[07:33] <stefg> D_C: ~/myscript.sh ?
[07:33] <ricanelite> vanRijn you know about MOL?
[07:33] <VViki> wget is built in
[07:33] <D_C> oh ok :>
[07:33] <D_C> thanks
[07:33] <VViki> how do I download from multiple sources using wget?
[07:33] <vanRijn> ricanelite: yes. what's your question?
[07:33] <stonarmusic>  'sudo chown username /media/cdrom0/*' didn't seem to work
[07:34] <hammad> how do i get gnome or make my desktop gnome if i installed as kde
[07:34] <hammad> anyone know?
[07:34] <lupine_85> cdroms are readonly, and iso doesn't support permissions in any case
[07:34] <boink> you installed kubuntu?
[07:34] <hammad> i think so
[07:35] <hammad> kde
[07:35] <boink> ubuntu is just gnome
[07:35] <lupine_85> modify the mode line in /etc/fstab to include uid=1000,gid=1000
[07:35] <martalli> kubuntu = kde version of ubuntu
[07:35] <ricanelite> Okay, when I type in startmol I get this message No video modes have been configured. Please run 'molvconfig' and then when I type in sudo molvconfig my monitor goes black and I have to do CTRL+ALT+F7 to go back to my linux desktop
[07:35] <stefg> seamus7: it's hard to troubleshoot the system if you can't get online with it.. there seems something really borked if you got xubuntu-splash on a ubuntu-install with kubuntu-desktop. Probably it's just a tiny thing, but i'd need a look
[07:35] <D_C> lovely my ubuntu crashed
[07:35] <stefg> Oh, my dear!!!
[07:36] <boink> don't computers sux?
[07:36] <seamus7> stefg: that's what I was afraid of ... do you think a reinstall would perhaps solve this?
[07:36] <martalli> hammad:  I think what you want to do is install the ubuntu-desktop package
[07:36] <stonarmusic> lupine_85 - where you replying to  me? modify fstab?
[07:36] <stefg> seamus7: I'm pretty sure, because your hardware has proven to work
[07:36] <martalli> http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/gnome
[07:37] <lupine_85> stonarmusic: yes
[07:37] <pmjdebruijn> boink, not really
[07:37] <stefg> !w32codec
[07:37] <vanRijn> ricanelite: hm. what machine do you have?
[07:37] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about w32codec - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:37] <stefg> !w32codecs
[07:37] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[07:38] <ricanelite> I have a Mac mini running a G4
[07:38] <seamus7> stefg: is it relatively painless to do a reinstall since I have my root in its own partition? will all my settings from apps like Amarok and Firefox be automatically checked for and taken by my fresh system?
[07:38] <steveire> Hey, I'm trying to install this >>> http://kionjb.cvs.sourceforge.net/kionjb/kionjb/. There's no ./configure script. Should I run autogen?
[07:38] <stefg> seamus7: if you tell the installer what your /home partition is it should take your settings
[07:39] <Lam_> what's the difference between using aptitude and apt-get via terminal?
[07:39] <catalytic> hi all
[07:39] <boink> Lam_ none, really. both work fine
[07:39] <seamus7> stefg: oh that's what I was hoping.
[07:39] <catalytic> well i finally got around to installing the java jdk
[07:39] <Lam_> boink: is there a difference though? i'm wondering what the pros and cons are
[07:39] <catalytic> but it keeps wanting to update my kernel
[07:40] <catalytic> Remove the running kernel image (not recommended) [No]
[07:40] <catalytic> what is the easiest way to do this without everything exploding?
[07:41] <jrib> !info kionjb
[07:41] <ubotu> Package kionjb does not exist in any distro I know
[07:42] <jrib> steveire: there is probably a README or INSTALL file that explains what you need to do.  kionjb is in edgy by the way (so you'll get it in 2 weeks)
[07:42] <steveire> that's odd. kionjb is in the repos
[07:42] <steveire> INSTALL tells me to run configure
[07:42] <catalytic> i have 11 broken packages and one of them is my kernel
[07:42] <steveire> README tells me to see INSTALL for instruction
[07:42] <catalytic> how do i repair these?
[07:42] <jrib> steveire: run autogen then, or download the edgy pacakge and rebuild it
[07:44] <D_C> stefg i saved it as .sh and when i open it, it just opens it in gedit?
[07:44] <Lam_> catalytic: if i get your explanation correctly, i would update my kernel by installing a new kernel while having the old one intact.  reboot, and then rmeove the old kernel if you want after the new one loads
[07:44] <seamus7> stefg: thanks for all of your help.
[07:44] <micahcowan> D_C, chmod +x <file>
[07:44] <stefg> D_C: chmod +x myscript.sh
[07:44] <aleon> HI    ANYONE HELP ME
[07:44] <stefg> !CAPS
[07:44] <steveire> jrib: on running it, Unknown host anoncvs.kde.org.
[07:44] <ubotu> PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[07:44] <D_C> so i cant just have a file on my desktop that i can just click to run the script?
[07:45] <micahcowan> !ask
[07:45] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[07:45] <micahcowan> D_C, if you run the command stefg and I gave you, it should do that.
[07:45] <HLM> puts on mind reading cap
[07:45] <catalytic> hi lam_ i ran thtough the jdk installation, and it came up with the warning of wanting to remove the current running kernel
[07:45] <steveire> I think I give up for the moment.
[07:45] <jrib> steveire: where are you grabbing it from?
[07:45] <jrib> I'll try here
[07:45] <catalytic> and it advised to say no, i said no
[07:45] <aleon> WHERE THERE IS A SPANISH ROOM
[07:45] <micahcowan> !ubuntu-es
[07:45] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ubuntu-es - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:46] <micahcowan> !es
[07:46] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[07:46] <stefg> !es
[07:46] <Lam_> catalytic: yeah, that's stupid. never try to do that.  just install a new kernel, reboot, and install jdk after that
[07:46] <micahcowan> aleon, please don't shout, either here or in there.
[07:46] <aleon> OK
[07:46] <steveire> jrib: The link I gave. cvs -z3 -d:pserver:anonymous@kionjb.cvs.sourceforge.net:/cvsroot/kionjb co -P kionjb
[07:46] <hammad> puppy
[07:46] <aleon> #EDUBUNTU-ES
[07:46] <catalytic> is there a way i can fix the current broken kernel package
[07:46] <znull> any docs about "setup a dns transfer site"
[07:47] <catalytic> Linux kernel image for version 2.6.10 on AMD K7.
[07:47] <catalytic> is the one that is broken
[07:47] <Lam_> catalytic: you can try runnin synaptic and reinstalling the current kernel package, but i wouldn't recommend that either given the fact that you're running the kernel at the same time
[07:47] <micahcowan> aleon: type "/join #edubuntu-es"
[07:47] <catalytic> do i have any other options?
[07:48] <simtower> does anyone know what exactly the phpmyadmin package does?
[07:48] <Lam_> catalytic: ubuntu has packages for 2.6.15+ kernels. why don't you upgrade to one of those?
[07:48] <catalytic> i just wanted to install the jdk
[07:48] <padan> sim, gives you a web admin interface to managing mysql and its databases
[07:48] <catalytic> its what wanted to update my kernel
[07:48] <catalytic> i had no idea it was going to do that
[07:48] <simtower> padan: but how is it accessed? there is nothing listening on port 80
[07:48] <D_C> micahcowan i just put the command in the terminal and it still opens in gedit
[07:48] <catalytic> do i just search for that in synaptic?
[07:48] <padan> its probably a custom port
[07:49] <padan> go look on phpmyadmin website
[07:49] <stefg> catalytic: ain't that a brilliant opportunity for a dist-upgrade?
[07:49] <padan> or look in the phpmyadmin config files
[07:49] <Lam_> catalytic: yeah you can.
[07:49] <catalytic> i guess it would be, if i knew what i was doing
[07:49] <catalytic> :)
[07:49] <_lemsx1_> anybody using shorewall?
[07:49] <jrib> steveire: any reason you don't use a stable tarball?  I think kde uses svn now so that's why cvs would fail in the script
[07:49] <catalytic> ok, thanks Ill try
[07:49] <_lemsx1_> shorewall stopped working for me on Edgy
[07:50] <padan> stefg, also i believe it runs through apache or another webserver
[07:50] <padan> i dont think it has its own webserver
[07:51] <shriphani> guys is unix dead ?
[07:51] <micahcowan> D_C: I just tried it... apparently, you have to refresh your desktop afterwards, or it doesn't realize it had +x set. click on the desktop and hit F5.
[07:51] <pmjdebruijn> shriphani, why? classic unix is dying indeed... but true unix is more alive than ever
[07:51] <steveire> jrib: Make failed on the stable. I emailed the list, and they said use cvs. I guess it should have worked, but it didn't. I'm giving up for a day.
[07:51] <shriphani> pmjdebruijn, was looking around for it
[07:51] <micahcowan> shriphani, what do you think? You're on a busy *nix support group. Anyway, the question/discussion is offtopic, so please move it to #ubuntu-offtopic
[07:52] <shriphani> ok micahcowan
[07:52] <pmjdebruijn> shriphani, looking around for what?
[07:52] <lostboyz> hi how do i make the fonts bigger?
[07:52] <shriphani> an os to run on an ancient 486
[07:52] <lostboyz> the fonts i see now are really really small
[07:52] <pmjdebruijn> lostboyz, kde?gnome?
[07:52] <jrib> steveire: alright well my suggestion would be to just edit the autogen.sh to use svn to pull the kde src it needs, it'll probably work then (autogen should work anyway)
[07:53] <lostboyz> xubuntu actually
[07:53] <lostboyz> xfce
[07:53] <pmjdebruijn> shriphani, it's not worth the pain and suffering
[07:53] <D_C> ah seems to ask if i want to run it now micahcowan :> cheers
[07:53] <martalli> xubuntu might be a little too much for an ancient 486 even
[07:53] <micahcowan> shriphani, to my knowledge any modern Unix system can still do that, including Linux: but I wouldn't know if you can count on any one particular /distro/ to support that. Xubuntu might.
[07:53] <martalli> how much memory do you have on the 486 box?
[07:53] <D_C> script doesnt work though, probably me putting it in wrong
[07:53] <peter77> hi, I need java 1.5, how do I upgrade from 1.4?
[07:53] <micahcowan> (I meant, any modern /free/ Unix systems: otherwise, i can think of some counterexamples...)
[07:54] <shriphani> martalli, its a small drive
[07:54] <pmjdebruijn> shriphani, any modern unix will run like crap on a 486... period
[07:54] <shriphani> i have no idea so
[07:54] <pmjdebruijn> shriphani, ditch that crap...
[07:54] <martalli> shriphani - actually, I mean how much ram
[07:54] <_lemsx1_> ok, the problem with shorewall is --icmp-type fragmentation-needed in the macros for AllowICMPs and Ping
[07:54] <pmjdebruijn> anything below a Pentium-II is not worth the trouble
[07:54] <shriphani> martalli, no idea about that as well
[07:54] <highneko> peter77: sudo apt-get install sun-java5-jre
[07:54] <highneko> peter77: sudo update-alternatives --config java
[07:54] <peter77> cool, thanx
[07:54] <Lam_> if i have an old pentium 2, shoudl i just install xubuntu on it?
[07:54] <Zaggynl> anyone has a .deb for sancho? it's a frontend to mldonkey
[07:54] <micahcowan> peter77, try sun-java5-jdk
[07:54] <martalli> The only gui's that are likely to work ar epuppy, damn small linux, austrumi, etc.
[07:55] <Zaggynl> can't find anything on google, the sancho website appears to be down
[07:55] <micahcowan> (if you actually did want the jdk instead of jre)
[07:55] <martalli> They are not the most complete system
[07:55] <shriphani> hmm i might try just command line on it
[07:55] <stefg> Lam_: how much ram has the old box?
[07:55] <Lam_> stefg: 256MB
[07:55] <drivera> I just bought the Ubuntu CD 6.0 :)
[07:55] <highneko> peter77: Yea, what he said. If azureus you probably want jre.
[07:55] <martalli> You might be able to run a simple command line "the server installation" of ubuntu, though
[07:55] <ArrenLex> martalli: those are distros, not guis.
[07:55] <pmjdebruijn> martalli, on a 486... even those won't be tollerable
[07:55] <stefg> Lam_: then xubuntu seems perfect
[07:55] <JavaDeveloper> Anyone using Openoffice 2.0.4 RC? cuz I used it on Windows and it's really way faster and I wanna try it on my linux, anyone?
[07:56] <Lam_> stefg: ok thanks
[07:56] <pmjdebruijn> JavaDeveloper, it's available in Edgy... but font rendering is broken on Edgy
[07:56] <martalli> arrenlex - I know they are distros, but if you wanted a gui, that would be the way to go.  Mainly,running a simple window manager instead of a desktop environ
[07:56] <JavaDeveloper> pmjdebruijn: so current dapper doesn't have repo for it?
[07:56] <stefg> JavaDeveloper: hey just wait a couple of days. it will be in the repos after proper packaging and testing
[07:56] <ArrenLex> martalli: why not just do a server install of ubuntu and apt-get install icewm?
[07:56] <peter77> couldn't find package sun-java5-jre
[07:56] <JavaDeveloper> stefg: hahaha...thanks...cuz I really can't wait for it...
[07:56] <shriphani> stefg, i remember an xfce panel addon that makes the os run slower than a windows installation getting thrashed around by 10 trojans
[07:56] <martalli> Arrenlex - that's fairly reasonable
[07:56] <ArrenLex> !sun-java5-jre
[07:56] <ubotu> sun-java5-jre: Sun Java(TM) Runtime Environment (JRE) 5.0. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.5.0-06-1 (dapper), package size 7169 kB, installed size 15768 kB
[07:57] <JavaDeveloper> peter77: did you actually add your universal repo?
[07:57] <dgcass> hola
[07:57] <dgcass> alguien habla espaol?
[07:57] <ArrenLex> peter77: multiverse repo
[07:57] <ArrenLex> !es
[07:57] <Lam_> !es
[07:57] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[07:57] <martalli> arrenlex - I think puppy & dsl are even more stripped down in the kernel, but a 486 would be a challenge for anything
[07:57] <Lam_> damn
[07:57] <D_C2> #!/bin/sh , cd /home/daniel/.wine/drive_c/Program\ Files/Valve/Steam/ , wine Steam.exe , exit 0
[07:57] <dgcass> sry
[07:57] <pmjdebruijn> JavaDeveloper, no
[07:57] <D_C2> anything wrong with that?
[07:57] <Wamty> how to set net in linux ubuntu 6?
[07:58] <Wamty> ip addr?
[07:58] <lupine_85> martalli: not for minix ;)
[07:58] <peter77> oops fresh install :-)
[07:58] <JavaDeveloper> pmjdebruijn: too bad...have to wait then
[07:58] <shriphani> Wamty, your objecive ?
[07:58] <pmjdebruijn> why does nobody get that newer software won't be added to an already existing repo
[07:58] <shriphani> lupine_85, i may try minix
[07:58] <Wamty> ifconfig ?
[07:58] <JavaDeveloper> peter77: enable your mutiverse
[07:58] <peter77> done, still can't find
[07:58] <martalli> shriphani - that sounds reasonable.  What are you planning to do with that 486 anyway?  That's probably the more pertinent question
[07:58] <shriphani> Wamty, u could use the gui network-admin
[07:59] <shriphani> martalli, play around
[07:59] <JavaDeveloper> peter77: after you finish adding, did you do apt-get update?
[07:59] <tonyyarusso> How can I get the hareware address of something by IP?
[07:59] <fernando> does anyone knows what this means [4294667.296000]  ACPI: unable to locate RSPD
[07:59] <lupine_85> tonyyarusso: that's ARP
[07:59] <stefg> D_C2: you need of course new lines, not a comma to separate commands. (and you you shouldn't waste so much time with Halflife :-) )
[07:59] <shriphani> cuz its like my dad's and he doesnt use it
[07:59] <martalli> shriphani - there's always something fun to try if you have the time =)
[07:59] <peter77> doing now
[07:59] <D_C2> as if not stefg  :P
[07:59] <shriphani> is 15
[08:00] <tonyyarusso> lupine_85: Perfect.
[08:00] <shriphani> and i gotta tell the kubuntu guys about an update that ruins konqueror
[08:00] <martalli> shriphani - it would be a perfect platform for learning the basics of programming and the posix environment
[08:00] <D_C2> ahh works now stefg XD
[08:00] <JavaDeveloper> anyone has good tools that could monitor system resource and state like CPU usage and others and it could be embedded into gnome panel? cuz I tried Gkrellm, it isn't likely embedded into the panel
[08:01] <shriphani> martalli, i would love to learn how to code
[08:01] <stefg> JavaDeveloper: have a look at gdesklets
[08:01] <martalli> You could always try installing the server edition of ubuntu, and using cli tools like vi, nano, along with gcc
[08:01] <shriphani> i am a noob at coding
[08:01] <JavaDeveloper> stefg: o...yeah...forgot that...thank you
[08:01] <D_C> lol, now steam has crashed ubuntu yet again
[08:02] <pmjdebruijn> steam?
[08:02] <martalli> shriphani - you're the right age to start leanring.  Get a book and start plowing through.  C++, python, shell programming.  Do they teach programmking at school?
[08:02] <shriphani> martalli, no
[08:02] <D_C> a game program for windows pmjdebruijn
[08:02] <shriphani> i am doing python tho
[08:02] <brussel> Does anybody have a good reference on how to install postgres into a dapper lamp server?
[08:02] <mick_linux> if i have a package that i'd like to install w/ a custom configuration - how can i apt-get the src and make necessary changes before installing it?
[08:02] <pmjdebruijn> shriphani, try Python or Java or Mono/C#, those are good entry level programming languages
[08:02] <mick_linux> like ./configure for apt - so to speak
[08:03] <shriphani> yeh almost everyone told me python is good
[08:03] <D_C> did anyone else get invited into jewbuntu :/
[08:03] <pmjdebruijn> D_C, ah HalfLife etc.
[08:03] <shriphani> so i am learning python now
[08:03] <D_C> yeah
[08:03] <shriphani> D_C, me
[08:03] <jrib> mick_linux: edit debian/rules, the use dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot -us -uc.  That's what I do
[08:03] <lupine_85> pascal is the best first language ;)
[08:03] <D_C> opened fine yesterday, now it crashes ubuntu everytime i open it now
[08:03] <Chrisms> Hey, I'm a complete noob, can smoeone please tell me how to install from binaries, or where i can find the information out?
[08:03] <martalli> shriphani:  Damn but that sucks, they taugght programming in my school on trs-80's  Well, get yourself a book, or check on out forom the library and get started.  Python is used frequently and is object-oriented.  I'm sure you could have a great flame fest over what is the best first language, but any one will do
[08:03] <pmjdebruijn> lupine_85, not really...
[08:03] <lupine_85> python's whitespace-as-syntax is worrying
[08:03] <lupine_85> ...really
[08:03] <lupine_85> well, object pascal
[08:04] <peter77> ok it's started the install, a liscence agreement has appeared, I've scrolled down to the bottom using the arrow keys, how do I accept?
[08:04] <pmjdebruijn> lupine_85, it's a nice syntax, but not fully object oriented
[08:04] <jrib> Chrisms: generally you want to use the repositories instead.  It is a lot easier.  Do you know about synaptic and apt?
[08:04] <lupine_85> object pascal is pretty close
[08:04] <pmjdebruijn> lupine_85, object pascal syntax is horrid
[08:04] <shriphani> martalli, i would love a HLL to teach me the basics
[08:04] <martalli> (But ((personally) to me) lisp has too many ()'s)
[08:04] <peter77> oh done
[08:04] <pmjdebruijn> therefore Java/C#
[08:04] <pmjdebruijn> lupine_85, I would prefer anything to C++
[08:04] <lupine_85> I prefer visual basic to java...
[08:04] <shriphani> i like python cuz of its simplicity print"hello world"
[08:04] <pmjdebruijn> rofl!!
[08:04] <Chrisms> jrip: i'm trying to install PHP and mysql, i have apache installed. But there are no repositories?  I instlled apache a while ago using binaries, compileingthem myself, but i forget how
[08:04] <shriphani> and it c
[08:04] <lupine_85> never tried C#
[08:05] <jrib> Chrisms: all of those things are in the repositories
[08:05] <lupine_85> !lamp
[08:05] <ubotu> lamp is Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL.  For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP  -  See also the Server CD install menu.
[08:05] <pmjdebruijn> Mono/C# is very nice
[08:05] <jrib> ubotu: tell Chrisms about synaptic
[08:05] <shriphani> its like #include <stdio.h>
[08:05] <Chrisms> How come apt-get doesn't find them
[08:05] <martalli> My first language was VIC 20 BASIC...I think any start is a good start.  Almost anythiung is better than Basic, and whatever language you learn, you'll need to learn twenty more in a career of programming
[08:05] <shriphani> Chrisms, is it a fresh install ?
[08:05] <lupine_85> C=64 BASIC is cool :)
[08:05] <jrib> Chrisms: see the page ubotu just sent, but make sure you have enabled universe and multiverse
[08:05] <jrib> ubotu: tell Chrisms about repos
[08:05] <pmjdebruijn> Chrisms, installing from source will most likely have broken your system
[08:05] <lupine_85> just be careful where you poke ;)
[08:06] <shriphani> i have an ancient version of brian w kernighan's ansi c
[08:06] <Chrisms> It's a fresh install now, i jsut reforamted last night. And i havn't changed my source list thing? A freind gave me a list of souces... but i lost it of course
[08:06] <peter77> java upgraded, thanx
[08:06] <lob22> do you guys still give out them free cds
[08:06] <micahcowan> lupine_85, have you checked out FreeBASIC (available for Linux, but not packaged for Debian/Ubuntu)
[08:06] <shriphani> Chrisms, sudo vi /etc/apt/sources.list
[08:06] <Zaggynl> hmm, sancho + mldonkey
[08:06] <shriphani> wait
[08:06] <lupine_85> nope, I use fpc/lazarus for most things these days
[08:06] <micahcowan> seems to be compatible with all the good old BASICs.
[08:06] <shriphani> not vi, gedit
[08:07] <jokoon> what is the best programming platform to build c++ programs on ubuntu ?
[08:07] <martalli> Shriphani - even with a cli/server install, you have all the basic's for programming.  gcc can do several languages, from c to fortan, python is just another package to download.  cli editors are very advanced...some would claim emacs is even bloated =)
[08:07] <lob22> anyone tell me if u guys still give out them free cd
[08:07] <shriphani> lob22, yup
[08:07] <jrib> lob22: https://shipit.ubuntu.com/
[08:07] <Chrisms> shriphani: now what?
[08:07] <lupine_85> anything with context editing is good
[08:07] <pmjdebruijn> jokoon, g++ ?
[08:07] <martalli> lob22 shipit is still avail for the 6.06 version
[08:07] <lupine_85> erm, context highlighting
[08:07] <shriphani> Chrisms, uncomment the sources
[08:07] <jokoon> thanks pmjdebruijn
[08:08] <shriphani> i.e. remove the # in front of those deb http:// blah blah
[08:08] <micahcowan> shriphani, if your K&R C book is actually the ANSI one (2nd ed), then it's still great today. C's gone through another standard since then, but you really can't rely much on C99 support for the most part: K&R's book is still one of the very best.
[08:08] <siriusnova> lol i like that quit message
[08:08] <Chrisms> how do i uncomment them...? it's just beeping at me
[08:08] <siriusnova> "Knowledge is power. Power corrupts. Study hard, be evil. Evil prevails."
[08:08] <siriusnova> hehehe
[08:08] <shriphani> micahcowan, so you say i must start with c instead of python ?
[08:08] <martalli> siriusnova - don't forget "recant on your deathbed and give to charity is your will"
[08:09] <siriusnova> lol
[08:09] <micahcowan> shriphani, no, just commenting on your mention of having the book. I'd definitely start with python.
[08:09] <jokoon> what is python ?
[08:09] <ArrenLex> jokoon: python is an interpreted object-oriented programming language.
[08:09] <Chrisms> okay, it fianlyl stoped beepign and let me delte the #. so i want to do universe, and bacports? or jsut universe?
[08:09] <Kingsqueak> http://www.kingsqueak.org/stuff/pyjaxperuby.png
[08:09] <martalli> shriphani - I would skip c and just go to c++ if that is what you want to do.  Honestly, whatever you learn now, there will be more languages to learn later.  Now you just want to learn about programming itself.
[08:10] <Hoagie> Hi everyone. Was hoping someone here could answer a question or two :) Thinking of getting a laptop and slapping linux on it, and several people recommended Ubuntu to me.
[08:10] <jokoon> tell jokoon about python
[08:10] <martalli> sorting techniques, arrays, data structures, interacting with hardware and whatnot.
[08:10] <jokoon> ubotu : tell jokoon about python
[08:10] <shriphani> martalli, so you say c++ ?
[08:10] <ArrenLex> !ask
[08:10] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[08:10] <Kingsqueak> PyJaXPeRuby is the new wave
[08:10] <jokoon> ubotu knows so many things :)))
[08:10] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about knows so many things :))) - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:11] <jokoon> okokok
[08:11] <Hoagie> Ehh. Sorry. Was mostly wondering how customisable the interface etc is. I've been using windows since forever, and the bleedin' update thing pushed me over the edge last night.
[08:11] <shriphani> !ubotu
[08:11] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage
[08:11] <martalli> shriphani -I'm a doctor, not a programmer, but my impression is that C++ is a little more esoteric, but also where all the heavy lifting is rioght now.  Python is a little more elegant but not usedas frequently right now.  Since python is an interpreted language, I think it is better for learning, though
[08:12] <martalli> There is nothing more frustrating than trying to debug code just to get the damn thing to compile
[08:12] <Hoagie> I might just be blind, but I can't find much on it >_>
[08:12] <ArrenLex> Hoagie: if you want to explore ubuntu, just burn yourself a live-cd! Then you can pop the disc in the CD drive and it will boot to ubuntu without touching your hard drive. When you finish exploring, just take it out, reboot, and all is as you left it!
[08:12] <micahcowan> I think both C and Python are probably represented _much_ better in the Linux community than they are more generally.
[08:13] <ArrenLex> Hoagie: all the default Ubuntu installation CDs are liveCDs.
[08:13] <Kingsqueak> I regret not having learned C before getting into interpreted languages
[08:13] <martalli> micahcowan - Python is certainly used much more in the open source community  It's really a darling of the OSS community actually.
[08:14] <Kingsqueak> mostly because C forces you to do things more logically where many interpreted languages allow for some reall awful code that will still work without you knowing it's a bad idea
[08:14] <martalli> I think C is really used for a lot of stuff - programming for the PocketPC for instance is mostly done with MS's C/C++/C# environments
[08:14] <micahcowan> martalli, well, of the Ubotu community especially. Perl might also qualify as "a darling of the OSS community", but among Ubuntu developers, it may possibly take a backseat to Python.
[08:14] <martalli> Are you a programmer Kingsqueak?
[08:14] <Kingsqueak> no, just a sysadmin
[08:14] <martalli> Ahh, much closer to the whole thing than me
[08:14] <Kingsqueak> but I do systems programming from time to time
[08:15] <ArrenLex> Hoagie: as to your question, the interface is infinitely customisable. For starters, ubuntu offers three flavours with different desktops - kubuntu (KDE desktop), ubuntu (GNOME desktop), xubuntu (XFCE desktop -- lightweight for old computers). Both KDE and GNOME themselves are infinitely customisable, and if you don't like them you can install any window manager you like --  fluxbox, icewm, twm, etc.
[08:15] <martalli> Hey, if you have a 486 running the cli, take some time to learn shel scripting too,
[08:15] <ArrenLex> Someone tell me if that cut off, the ending was supposed to be "fluxbox, icewm, twm, etc."
[08:15] <micahcowan> A lot of important Unix code is still in C, and still written from scratch in C. Especially command-line programs.
[08:15] <martalli> Even I have written shell scripts (and I'm a doctor =)
[08:15] <ArrenLex> Hoagie: I suggest you break out wikipedia and look up articles for KDE, GNOME, and XFCE.
[08:15] <Kingsqueak> interpreted languages are very nice, Python in particular is a bit more sane , but I have my regrets for not having learned to program the old way for purposes of having better logic when I sit down to write something
[08:15] <ArrenLex> Hoagie: or google image search,
[08:15] <ArrenLex> .
[08:16] <Hoagie> ArrenLex: Will do! :) Thanks a lot for the help!
[08:16] <ArrenLex> Hoagie: But remember that all of these desktops are a LOT more customisable than Explorer, so don't think you're tied down to what you see -- you can make it look like anything!
[08:16] <brussel> Does anybody have a good url on how to install postgres into a dapper lamp server? If so please paste it here.
[08:16] <ArrenLex> Hoagie: But again, I strongly recommend burning yourself a kubuntu and ubuntu livecd and seeing if they suit you and which you like more.
[08:16] <Lam_> ArrenLex: mind if i ask how you got your alias?
[08:17] <ArrenLex> Lam: Alias? You mean, ArrenLex?
[08:17] <Lam_> ArrenLex: yeah. i'm in need of a new email alias
[08:17] <ArrenLex> I'm confused. What are you asking?
[08:18] <Lam_> ArrenLex: i'm just curious as to what the thought process people put into aliases, and i find your interesting
[08:18] <Morrowyn> heya, i have an amd x2 proc, and when i look for a smp kernel i only see 2.6.xx UP/SMP when i use this one, i only have 1 cpu in my proc/cpuinfo any ideas on this?
[08:18] <ArrenLex> Oh. It's my writing pseudonym. It's based on my name -- Alex.
[08:18] <ArrenLex> Arren Lex.
[08:18] <Lam_> that's pretty neat lol. thanks
[08:18] <nicky> how do "newest CVS version of glitz to get this to work with Nvidia cards that lack Pixel Shaders"
[08:19] <Hoagie> ArrenLex: Thanks a lot :) I will! *Tips cap* I'd best get to accidentally blowing up my CD burner then.
[08:19] <nicky> how do i newest CVS version of glitz to get this to work with Nvidia cards that lack Pixel Shaders
[08:19] <Hoagie> Toodles.
[08:19] <brussel> It sure would be nice if they came out with a LAPP install, Linux, Apache, Postgresql, and Php and get rid of that mysql stuff
[08:19] <bog-bog> guide me to istall ubuntu
[08:19] <nicky> how do i "newest CVS version of glitz to get this to work with Nvidia cards that lack Pixel Shaders"
[08:19] <nicky> how do i get "newest CVS version of glitz to get this to work with Nvidia cards that lack Pixel Shaders"
[08:19] <bog-bog> expeciay to set root pass
[08:19] <Kingsqueak> brussel you look at the docs on the postgres site yet?
[08:19] <Kingsqueak> they have rather in-depth docs
[08:20] <brussel> kingsqueak, no i haven't actually
[08:20] <ArrenLex> bog-bog: ubuntu doesn't have a root account by default -- use sudo to make admin changes. Do you need one for some reason?
[08:20] <nicky> guys, how do i get the newest cvs version of glitz???
[08:20] <Morrowyn> nvm, works now
[08:20] <brussel> kingsqueak, do they cover ubuntu in particular?
[08:20] <Kingsqueak> it's a bit ponderous to get through as it's nearly a full book but it's all there.  Postgres is different enough from mysql, it's worth the time to read it
[08:20] <nicky> guys, how do i get the newest cvs version of glitz???
[08:20] <ArrenLex> !repeat
[08:20] <ubotu> Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly, if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[08:21] <Kingsqueak> there isn't a ton that would be ubuntu specific really, it's mostly the difference between mysql and postgres that you are likely stumped with, it's quite different
[08:21] <nicky> anybody know what glitz is??
[08:21] <Kingsqueak> fwiw, honestly, I'm not too smooth with postgres yet
[08:21] <Morrowyn> other stuff is broken though :(
[08:21] <brussel> kingsqueak, I've used postgresql and oracle in the past, never mysql and all I want to do is get rid of the mysql and replace it with postgres so I can get to a state I'm comfortable with
[08:22] <anon32> how do I add edgy repos to Ubuntu?
[08:22] <nicky> guys, i need help
[08:22] <nicky> a quick question, please help this ubuntu newby
[08:22] <Kingsqueak> brussel basically just apt-get install postgres and it's all set to configure
[08:22] <nicky> how do i get the newest cvs version of glitz
[08:22] <Kingsqueak> the thing that is 'missing' is how to setup the initial accounts in postgres
[08:23] <Hallonen> nicky: try google if your not getting any answers here...
[08:23] <roduku> is tar.gz the right installer package type for ubuntu?
[08:23] <nicky> i didn't get anything in google
[08:23] <Kingsqueak> nick, google is your friend -> http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/glitz
[08:23] <nicky> which is why i'm here
[08:23] <brussel> kingsqueak, hmmm... I'll give that a try.
[08:23] <nicky> thanks kings
[08:23] <anon32> roduku, no. tar.gzs are source code
[08:23] <Kingsqueak> 'glitz homepage' got me that from google
[08:24] <roduku> what do I need to be an installer?
[08:24] <jokoon> What if I ask here if there is some nice version of GCC for Windows
[08:24] <anon32> roduku, deb
[08:24] <anon32> someone recommend a GUI download manager?
[08:24] <roduku> anon: thanks a lot... that answerws a lot of questions
[08:25] <anon32> !windows > jokoon
[08:25] <anon32> jokoon, but because I'm nice, I'll tell you to look up mingw and cygwin
[08:25] <jokoon> thanks you
[08:25] <mick_linux> anyone know the what the devel libraries for gtk 2.0 are called (i tried looking w/ apt-cache -- wow that is a lot to tread through)
[08:26] <anon32> mick_linux, libgtk2.0-dev
[08:26] <mick_linux> anon32, thanks :D
[08:26] <anon32> someone recommend a GUI download manager?
[08:26] <GortiZ> d4x
[08:27] <GortiZ> anon32: d4x
[08:27] <pmjdebruijn> anon32, what's wrong with Firefox' download manager?
[08:27] <anon32> GortiZ, do I have to build it from source?
[08:27] <anon32> pmjdebruijn, because I have dialup and because Ubuntu's firefox sucks ass
[08:27] <brussel> Anybody, how do I rotate through windows on gnome similar to hitting alt-tab-tab-tab on windows?
[08:27] <GortiZ> anon32: no it is in the repository
[08:27] <Kingsqueak> anon32 jigdo
[08:27] <pmjdebruijn> anon32, dial-up.... damn!
[08:27] <ArrenLex> brussel: alt-tab doesn't work for you in Gnome?
[08:28] <GortiZ> you can install it by synaptic or aptitude or apt-get... whatever you prefer
[08:28] <anon32> GortiZ, thanks, I'm getting it
[08:28] <GortiZ> ok
[08:28] <anon32> yay... much better than Aria 1.0
[08:28] <brussel> ArrenLex, alt-tab just bounces me between the top two windows
[08:28] <ArrenLex> brussel: even if you hold alt?
[08:28] <brussel> ArrenLex yes
[08:28] <ArrenLex> o_O
[08:29] <anon32> how do I add edgy repos to Ubuntu?
[08:30] <ArrenLex> anon32: edit your sources.list and copy the line for the repos you want, changing dapper to edgy
[08:30] <ArrenLex> Or just add this: deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ edgy main restricted multiverse universe
[08:30] <anon32> ArrenLex, thanks
[08:30] <absenth> is there a how-to to get ATI X850 cards working with accelleration on Dapper?
[08:30] <anon32> ArrenLex, where's sources.list? /etc?
[08:30] <sureshot> hey all i used sudo mkfs.ext3 to format a drive now a can write to it on a sata to usb converter did i take right away from my user account
[08:31] <ArrenLex>  /etc/apt/sources.list
[08:31] <sv452> hi all
[08:31] <ArrenLex> !hi
[08:31] <ubotu> Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[08:31] <brussel> When I hit alt-tab I see the various windows. Hitting tab again just doesn't work like in windows. I have even tried hitting alt-tab-left-arrow.
[08:31] <pmjdebruijn> sureshot, I don't understand your question
[08:31] <anon32> absenth, X850s are supported by the default free ATI drivers
[08:31] <elriah> Hi all.  Is there a virtual package that installs all the required development tools to compile software?  I installed gcc and make and kernel headers but still having problems...
[08:31] <ArrenLex> brussel: I don't run gnome so I can't help you. Sorry.
[08:32] <absenth> anon32: do they install easily?
[08:32] <Kingsqueak> brussel just hold down alt as you hit tab I think is what you want
[08:32] <pmjdebruijn> anon32, I wouldn't call them free
[08:32] <pmjdebruijn> anon32, ever had to pay for a driver?
[08:32] <anon32> elriah, apt-get builddep packagename covers ones in synaptic
[08:32] <Kingsqueak> brussel ctrl-alt-<larrow/rarrow> cycles desktops in GNOME also
[08:32] <absenth> open vs closed source really doesn't interest me.
[08:32] <sureshot> i cant writ to my drive i use sudo mkfs.ext3 does sudo own the drive so my user account cant writ to it
[08:32] <ArrenLex> rlriah: build-essential
[08:32] <ArrenLex> elirah *
[08:33] <sv452> i have a small startup issue - i have two files in .trash-user on a fat32 partition and as soon as i boot up i get a fat fschk or something and ubuntu refuses to boot - i tried mouting it in the live cd ubuntu but i can't delete files only view them ... i am right now using the live cd to at least get connected -
[08:33] <mick_linux> i'm trying to use talk to talk to another person on a machine, i get:
[08:33] <mick_linux> [ Error on read from talk daemon: Connection refused. Press any key
[08:33] <pmjdebruijn> sureshot, your still not clear...
[08:33] <anon32> absenth, they're called linux-restricted-modules-386/686... you should have them already
[08:33] <mick_linux> how do i start the talk daemon?
[08:33] <pmjdebruijn> sureshot, but sudo should work
[08:33] <anon32> sureshot, yes
[08:33] <mick_linux> /etc/init.d/talk doesn't exist
[08:33] <SAM_theman> wow
[08:33] <SAM_theman> This sucks
[08:33] <sureshot> how do i get user rights back to my drive
[08:33] <anon32> sureshot, you need to chmod 777 (mount point)
[08:33] <brussel> The ctl-alt-left arrow allows me to select desktops in gnome
[08:34] <brussel> the alt-tab-tab-tab isn't working as expected though.
[08:34] <tristano> hello, i have a problem with cd burning, when i try to  make audio cd with mp3 files, it says me that misses the plugin. what package should i to apt-get
[08:34] <tristano> ?
[08:34] <Kingsqueak> brussel odd, you are holding down alt the whole time right?
[08:34] <Shish> "it" says?
[08:34] <ArrenLex> tristano: using what application?
[08:34] <anon32> !restrictedformats > tristano
[08:34] <sureshot> anon32 thanks man that it the problem still a noob at this any one that has a list of command they use for cheat cheats would you send them to me
[08:34] <digi_cam> digital camera problems, i took 2 photos today, ubuntu detects the drive but 1 of the photos it is displaying as a photo that i have taken months ago, not the current one from today, any ideas?
[08:34] <anon32> by the way, mp3 sucks ass
[08:34] <tristano> ArrenLex, gnomebaker and k3b
[08:35] <elriah> Thanks, ArrenLex.
[08:35] <sureshot> anon32 does sudo need to be used
[08:35] <yock> Is there an ubuntu package for checkinstall?
[08:35] <ArrenLex> tristano: for k3b, just install the libk3b2-mp3 package. Can't help you with gnomebaker; don't use it.
[08:35] <sv452> anybody ??
[08:35] <tristano> anon32, already installed restricted formats
[08:35] <anon32> sureshot, you can get a list of commands by doing ls /usr/bin and ls /sbin
[08:35] <anon32> sureshot, yes
[08:35] <yock> More to the point, what happened to the ubuntu checkinstall package.
[08:35] <yock> ?
[08:35] <ArrenLex> yock: of course. When you want to find a package, just run "apt-cache search <package>" to see matches
[08:35] <Kingsqueak> apt-cache search checkinstall    yes there is
[08:35] <yock> ArrenLex: that returns nothing
[08:35] <ArrenLex> I don't know, what happened?
[08:36] <ArrenLex> !checkinstall
[08:36] <ubotu> checkinstall is a wrapper to "make install", useful for installing programs you compiled. It will create a .deb package, which will be listed in the APT database and can be uninstalled like other packages. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CheckInstall  -  Please: Read the warnings at the top and bottom of that web page. - DO NOT interrupt CheckInstall while it's running!
[08:36] <yock> might be in *verse?
[08:36] <sv452> how can i make ubuntu skip fat fsck at startup so i can start ubuntu normaly and delete the offending files ???
[08:36] <ArrenLex> yock: it's in universe
[08:36] <yock> ArrenLex: Thanks.
[08:36] <tristano> ArrenLex, thanks a thousand!
[08:36] <ArrenLex> sv453: what if you just press ctrl+c when it starts checking?
[08:37] <anon32> tristano, gnomebaker is audio CDs, and if you right-click k3b, it'll recommend more packages
[08:37] <rsk> ! binary-drivers
[08:37] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about binary-drivers - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:37] <anon32> gnomebaker = data CDs*
[08:37] <sureshot> anon32 dont want to deep into it but i dont understand the man pages very well my brain is not wired write LOL that is why i ask that way you have your won explanation with them i hope
[08:37] <anon32> !ati
[08:37] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[08:37] <freakabcd> hi all
[08:37] <ArrenLex> !hi
[08:37] <ubotu> Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[08:37] <sureshot> anon32 a.d.d and a few other problems
[08:37] <Kingsqueak> sv452 change the last field in /etc/fstab to '0' if it is set to 1 or 2
[08:38] <brussel> Kingsqueak, yes, holding down on the alt the whole time.
[08:38] <freakabcd> any ideas for how i can use a logitech quickcam webcam on dapper?
[08:38] <anon32> sureshot, um.... can you rewrite that? the bad grammar confused me, sorry
[08:38] <freakabcd> i read somewhere that it is supported out of the box or something
[08:38] <Kingsqueak> brussel odd , that works here
[08:38] <sv452> that the thing i can't boot up ubuntu so i can't change anything !! i can only bootup with the live cd
[08:39] <ArrenLex> sv452: can you just comment out the fat32 partition in your /etc/fstab, then?
[08:39] <anon32> can I fsck an XFS partition, or do I need special tools?
[08:39] <brussel> Kingsqueak, maybe it's because I installed the gnome desktop over a lamp server and you are running the desktop ubuntu version
[08:39] <Kingsqueak> brussel could be
[08:39] <ArrenLex> brussel: I doubt it. If you have gnome, you have gnome.
[08:39] <HexDump> hi all
[08:39] <sureshot> anon32 i have a.d.h.d it is a medical condtion ware i cant hold my attention very long i also have a bunch of other medical problems that cause problems such as that..
[08:39] <ArrenLex> !hi
[08:39] <ubotu> Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[08:40] <sv452> how can i mount my partition while on the live cd to edit my fstab ?
[08:40] <sureshot> anon32 i dont understand the way the man pages are written and such
[08:40] <anon32> sureshot, oh... sorry, I have aspergers, so I can relate
[08:40] <Kingsqueak> sv452 once into live, open a term, just   mount /dev/sda1 /mnt   (or /dev/whatever your drive is)
[08:40] <anon32> sureshot, but you can take any command and tack --help after it to get a description and usage
[08:40] <sureshot> anon32 that is why i asked for your cheat cheats and such
[08:41] <HexDump> I have installed vmware player, and I would like to run windows on it. Should I donwload a vm for that or something? (I? a bit screwed)
[08:41] <sureshot> anon32 i know
[08:41] <Kingsqueak> sv452 you may want to do    mount -o rw /dev/whatever /mnt  I forget if it does rw by default
[08:41] <jeejee> mopi
[08:41] <jeejee> kikkelis kokkelis
[08:41] <sv452> ok
[08:41] <jeejee> moi gayt
[08:41] <sv452> let me try that Kingsqueak
[08:41] <jeejee> h
[08:41] <nicholaspaul> Does anyone know of a file system manager, preferably a GUI, that can help me find all the big files on my HD? Its getting full and i need to clear some space.
[08:41] <jeejee> terve
[08:42] <digi_cam> does anybody know why ubuntu detects photos on my digital camera as one thats i took months prior, not to mention photos from a different memory card
[08:42] <anon32> sureshot, well... I won't pretend to be an expert with the console, but the only things I've ever needed to use were ls, cp, mv, and rm
[08:42] <ArrenLex> HexDump: theoretically you can't make a new virtual machine with vmware player -- you can only "play" images others have already made.
[08:42] <anon32> oh yea... cd too
[08:42] <sureshot> ok cp is copy correct what is mv and rm
[08:42] <ArrenLex> HexDump: you can work around this, though. Google for a walkthough.
[08:42] <sureshot> anon32 ok cp is copy correct what is mv and rm
[08:42] <ArrenLex> sureshot: mv is move\rename. rm is remove.
[08:42] <HexDump> ArrenLex: great... I think Vmware server was too much for me
[08:43] <anon32> sureshot, mv is move and rm is remove
[08:43] <ArrenLex> HexDump: I've never quite understood what vmware server was. Can you fill me in?
[08:43] <Kingsqueak> nicholaspaul   find / -type f -size +1M   will give you files over 1M
[08:43] <sureshot> anon32 you said sudo chmod 777 /dev/sdb correct
[08:43] <nicholaspaul> digi_cam: Cant say I've seen that, I've had nothing but wonderful experiences with Ubuntu and my digital
[08:43] <nicholaspaul> Kingsqueak: oh i see... thanks :)
[08:43] <Linuturk> ok, i need help with an external modem
[08:43] <HexDump> ArrenLex: you can run then several vm's and create them
[08:43] <anon32> sureshot, no!!!
[08:43] <Kingsqueak> find is a bit tedious at first but it's worth learning ;-) very very handy, also   du -sh ./*   might be of help
[08:44] <anon32> sureshot, don't chmod the nod, chmod your mount point (whatever it is in fstab)
[08:44] <HexDump> ArrenLex: this is what I got from their site (it's a mess though)
[08:44] <ArrenLex> HexDump: isn't this what you want?
[08:44] <Cassandra> Does anyone know nicotine at all?
[08:44] <nicholaspaul> Kingsqueak: whats DU?
[08:44] <digi_cam> nicholaspaul: do you upload your photos straight from the camera to your hard disk, or do you use an external card reader
[08:44] <Kingsqueak> disk utilization
[08:44] <nicholaspaul> digi_cam: i go direct.
[08:44] <sureshot> anon32 to edit the fstab can i use gksudo gedit
[08:44] <Kingsqueak> cd / ; du -sh ./*
[08:44] <sv452> ok - i am in fstab
[08:44] <bonzai10> hello, i have kinda newbie question, can you give me link to guide how to mount windows drive ? i mounted once but i could read and open it only as a root can you tell me how to make it work under user mode ?
[08:44] <ArrenLex> Hey FriedGeek.
[08:44] <sv452> where do i make vfat 0 ??
[08:44] <Kingsqueak> the -sh gives you a summary of the size of the dirs in ./*
[08:45] <HexDump> ArrenLex: : nah, I only want to run one vm. But I thought I could create one at least :). Must check this woraround
[08:45] <HexDump> workaround*
[08:45] <anon32> sureshot, why are you editing your fstab?
[08:45] <nicholaspaul> aaah. thx Kingsqueak
[08:45] <TheFriedGeek> Howyde ArrenLex!
[08:45] <anon32> sureshot, just read your fstab or do mount -l
[08:45] <sureshot> anon32 i dont know the mount point
[08:45] <Kingsqueak> nicholaspaul after you get a handle on some of the commandline, I think you'll find most file managers far more tedious to use
[08:45] <anon32> then chmod the mount point, not the /dev/whatever
[08:45] <ArrenLex> HexDump: essentially you download someone else's vm image, then replace their hard drive with a blank one you make yourself and boot with a Windows install CD.
[08:45] <ArrenLex> boot player *
[08:46] <anon32> sureshot, do mount -l and it'll print a list of devices and mount points
[08:46] <Allmind> why linux doesnt work on a panasonic CF-25
[08:46] <HexDump> ArrenLex: heheh, yes, I guessed that :). Anyway thanks a lot for the instructions, let's find a windows vm :D
[08:46] <ArrenLex> bonzai: to mount a windows drive so users can read it, add "umask=000" to your mount options.
[08:46] <sureshot> ok did it is /media/usbdisk
[08:46] <nicholaspaul> Kingsqueak: is there an option to output to a text file?
[08:46] <anon32> Allmind, define "doesn't work"
[08:46] <sureshot> anon32 ok did it is /media/usbdisk
[08:47] <Aphex_Twin> hey there
[08:47] <anon32> sureshot, um... why is your hard drive mounted on /media/usbdisk?
[08:47] <sureshot> anon32 thanks i am a little slow but once i learn somthing it will not leave me ok
[08:47] <ArrenLex> HexDump: there are no windows vms. It's not legal to distribute windows like that. You have to find a Linux vm and replace the disk image with a blank one, and install windows yourself.
[08:47] <Kingsqueak> nicholaspaul almost any command, when you run it it dumps to 'stdout' to capture that into a file you simply redirect it to a file    ls -l > file.txt
[08:47] <Allmind> it cant recognised the RSDP
[08:47] <sureshot> anon32 it is on a sata usb converter
[08:47] <sv452> yipee - thanx Kingsqueak - i managed to delete the offending files
[08:47] <nicholaspaul> Kingsqueak: didnt know that...thanks again :)
[08:47] <Aphex_Twin> is it possible to make the web browser into a higher priority process?
[08:47] <HexDump> ArrenLex: ok ok, it was my fault.
[08:47] <Kingsqueak> nicholaspaul to append to the end of a file just do   ls -l >> file.txt   that will create file.txt if it isn't there and just add to it if it is without overwriting it
[08:47] <Lattyware> Hey
[08:48] <Lattyware> ack, wrong channel ^_^;
[08:48] <TheFriedGeek> ArrenLex: Loving Ubuntu BTW. Got all my issues worked out.
[08:48] <ArrenLex> Aphex: of course. "man renice"
[08:48] <ArrenLex> Good to hear! Welcome to the Linux club.
[08:48] <sureshot> anon32 what is the postbin url i will send you the mount -l output
[08:48] <sv452> brb
[08:48] <ArrenLex> !pastebin
[08:48] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[08:50] <Renan_s2> !nvidia
[08:50] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[08:50] <Allmind> anon32: in am loading it again and ill tel you what it says.
[08:50] <sureshot> anon32 http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26776/
[08:51] <sureshot> ArrenLex thanks for the info
[08:51] <puff> Afternoon.
[08:51] <koholint1000> yo ubuntu community
[08:51] <ArrenLex> !hi
[08:51] <ubotu> Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[08:52] <Kingsqueak> I've got a question, did dual-boot Ubuntu over an XP Media Center install, used the Ubuntu partition resize in install and now XP won't boot, the std grub entry doesn't work, GRUB doesn't recognize the filesystem type
[08:52] <Allmind> anon32: [4294667.296000]  ACPI: Unable to locate RSDP
[08:52] <Kingsqueak> I can mount the XP partition and read all the files no problem, so it's still there
[08:52] <puff> I'm chugging through the dist-upgrade from breezy to dapper.
[08:52] <koholint1000> hmmm...
[08:52] <koholint1000> well, erm...
[08:53] <ArrenLex> Kingsqueak: pastebin your /boot/grub/menu.lst
[08:53] <dyne_user> hello mz friends
[08:53] <dyne_user> i need help with UBUNTU
[08:53] <ArrenLex> !ask
[08:53] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[08:53] <dyne_user> OK, sorrz, it seemed rude to just ask >(
[08:53] <ArrenLex> That's what we're here for. =P
[08:53] <bonzai10> i dont get it, when i'm adding umask=0000 then it says... well it doesn't say anything but prints help, i need to mount it one time, i have set fstab but i dont know how to mount it manually
[08:53] <sharket> hep
[08:54] <Kingsqueak> ArrenLex http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26777/
[08:54] <sharket> hello
[08:54] <sharket> how can install the java-package
[08:54] <dyne_user> ok ... why ubunto wont recogniye my lan card and dynebolic do recogniye it
[08:54] <jrib> ubotu: tell sharket about java
[08:54] <Kingsqueak> ArrenLex sda3 is Ubuntu
[08:54] <Kingsqueak> and that works...it's what I'm on now ;-)
[08:55] <ArrenLex> bonzai: try "sudo mount -t ntfs -o ro,users,umask=000 /dev/something /mnt/somewhere"
[08:55] <sureshot> anon32 i got it working thanks for your help
[08:55] <Loof> quit
[08:56] <ArrenLex> Kingsqueak: you have both media centre and regular XP? xD Why?
[08:56] <Allmind> anon32: do you know what it means
[08:56] <Kingsqueak> the sda2 is a rescue image that HP ships on its systems, it's there and will boot and run actually but panics doing a rescue because it assumes partitioning that I have changed
[08:56] <ArrenLex> Kingsqueak: I assume that's not your whole list?
[08:56] <silvertip257> what file system do i need to use to create a shared partition for both Windows and Linux ???
[08:56] <Kingsqueak> I can paste the whole thing if you like, the rest is the normal Ubuntu stuff in sda3
[08:56] <ArrenLex> Kingsqueak: what would happen if you changed "rootnoverify" to "root"?
[08:56] <sharket> thx jrib
[08:56] <ArrenLex> silvertip: fat32
[08:56] <HexDump> bbl
[08:56] <silvertip257> thanks ArrenLex
[08:56] <Kingsqueak> ArrenLex I've done plain root, I've also done a hide statement for each, with no luck
[08:56] <bonzai10> ArrenLex thta's what i needed, thanx a lot man
[08:57] <dyne_user> i am still trying to figure out what is wrong...help win user to set up ubuntu
[08:57] <Kingsqueak> ArrenLex I've done a hide and then set root from the grub> prompt too
[08:57] <h3htimo> is anyone familiar with engage??
[08:57] <ArrenLex> Kingsqueak: and what does it tell you when you try to boot like that, again?
[08:57] <Kingsqueak> ArrenLex fwiw, I'm not that new to this, and have several other Ubuntu dual boot boxes I've done from the installer with XP Pro and they work
[08:57] <Kingsqueak> ArrenLex I get 0x7 unknown operating system
[08:57] <_\o_O> has anyone any experience with ipsec?
[08:58] <Kingsqueak> if I try to directly chainload a file say /$Boot it says, cannot mount filesystem
[08:58] <kads> I get a kernel panic -not syncing; when I try to log on to my computer
[08:58] <kads> what can I do
[08:58] <ArrenLex> Kingsqueak: ah. Then I don't know. My old computer absolutely refused to let grub boot windows.  I had to use PartitionMagic's boot loader. But this one is fine with the same settings.
[08:58] <VR_> how do you write a string value to a text file through bash? i know there's command > file.txt but i would like to output text that i type in.
[08:58] <kads> please help
[08:58] <dyne_user> conf t
[08:58] <dyne_user> int atm 0
[08:58] <ArrenLex> Kignsqueak: maybe your box is just weird. I dunno. = /
[08:58] <dyne_user> no shut
[08:58] <Kingsqueak> ArrenLex yeah I suspect that the parted corrupted the boot block somehow
[08:58] <kads> I can get to grub but after that I get a kernel panic
[08:58] <_\o_O> VR: cat > file then ^D once you've finished
[08:59] <Kingsqueak> I think I actually have to buy XP and just re-install
[08:59] <train2> i just dist-upgraded to edgy, and now X won't load... it doesn't give any logging at all... anyone know what's up?
[08:59] <ArrenLex> VR_: explain more. You want the user to input a string? Or do you want to just echo a string?
[08:59] <THX-1138> Kingsqueak: conf files are funny. one , instead or . and anarchy
[08:59] <Kingsqueak> THX-1138 I'm *fairly* certain on this one
[08:59] <SB|nblracer> is there any good becnch marking and stress testing programs for ubuntu/linux
[08:59] <Kingsqueak> I have other systems to compare the menu.lst with that work
[08:59] <VR_> ArrenLex: i just want to echo something
[08:59] <ArrenLex> train2: what if you apt-get install x-window-system-core xserver-xorg?
[09:00] <livingdaylight> hi
[09:00] <_\o_O> VR_, echo(1)
[09:00] <ArrenLex> VR_: echo "ArrenLex is the god of the known universe" > file.txt
[09:00] <Kingsqueak> THX-1138 http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26777/
[09:00] <train2> ArrenLex, trying now
[09:00] <kads> I get a kernel panic -not syncing; when I try to log on to my computer, after the grub
[09:00] <VR_> ah, echo, of course
[09:00] <SB|nblracer> i need somthing to help me overclock, test and compaire
[09:00] <VR_> thanks!
[09:00] <THX-1138> Kingsqueak: That is a link to the older file?
[09:00] <Allmind> does anyone know what this mean  [4294667.296000]  ACPI: Unable to locate RSDP
[09:00] <Kingsqueak> that's the last one I was trying
[09:01] <Kingsqueak> I've had root, rootnoverify and I've done combinations of hide as well
[09:01] <ArrenLex> Allmind: acronymfinder.com:          ****           RSDP   Root System Description Pointer (BIOS data structure)
[09:01] <Allmind> thanks
[09:01] <livingdaylight> E: The package jedit needs to be reinstalled, but I can't find an archive for it.
[09:01] <Kingsqueak> THX-1138 the only diff with that and one of the boxes that works, installed the same way is they have root, and not rootnoverify, which doesn't work on this one
[09:02] <livingdaylight> i keep getting this :
[09:02] <livingdaylight> E: The package jedit needs to be reinstalled, but I can't find an archive for it.
[09:02] <train2> ArrenLex, progress! thanks :) just a driver issue now i think
[09:02] <Kingsqueak> rootnoverify was just something I was trying to see if the 0x7 error would be overlooked and it would force
[09:02] <livingdaylight> but i can't reinstall it!
[09:02] <ArrenLex> livingdaylight: how did you get jedit?
[09:02] <livingdaylight> ArrenLex: please don't make me say it
[09:02] <Kingsqueak> I've also tried  chainloader --force +1 , also up to +4
[09:02] <livingdaylight> :(
[09:02] <ArrenLex> o_O??
[09:02] <anon32> is that one guy I was talking to still here?
[09:02] <silvertip257> how much space does Ubuntu physically take up on a regular install from the LiveCD ???
[09:03] <anon32> silvertip257, around 2GB
[09:03] <livingdaylight> ArrenLex: ok, i used the ubuntuguide.org
[09:03] <silvertip257> ok ty Anon32
[09:03] <ArrenLex> Is that illegal?
[09:03] <anon32> ArrenLex, DUH
[09:03] <livingdaylight> ArrenLex: it is very frowned upon onirc channels i know
[09:03] <ArrenLex> I see. I've never heard of it. xD
[09:03] <Kingsqueak> silvertip257 if you want to go nuts installing all the packages after initial install, leave 6G or so for breathing room
[09:03] <livingdaylight> ArrenLex: hehe
[09:03] <anon32> wtf is ubuntu guide? for some reason... firefox fails to load certain pages..
[09:04] <livingdaylight> ArrenLex: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_associate_Adobe_Reader_with_files_in_Nautilus
[09:04] <codecaine> my smb server won't share any files anymore I tried to reinstall it still not working
[09:04] <codecaine> anybody know how I can get it fixed?
[09:04] <anon32> livingdaylight, lol?
[09:04] <livingdaylight> ArrenLex: i did the wget url.....jedit and then sudo dpkg -i thing
[09:05] <nikin> codecain: samba share?
[09:05] <livingdaylight> anon32: i don't know what to do?
[09:05] <codecaine> yes
[09:05] <anon32> gah... firefox fails to connect to a lot of pages..
[09:05] <codecaine> I tested it smbclient -L //<IP_ADDRESS>
[09:05] <nikin> do the shares get to the smb.conf?
[09:05] <freakabcd> anyone use Logitech Quickcam on ubuntu dapper ?
[09:05] <codecaine> says access denied
[09:05] <codecaine> yep
[09:05] <anon32> livingdaylight, um, right-click on a pdf -> openwith -> adobe acrobat
[09:05] <livingdaylight> can someone tell me what to do about no being able to use apt-get
[09:06] <Kingsqueak> livingdaylight what is the error?
[09:06] <codecaine> think I might of fixed it let me test it
[09:06] <nikin> codecaine, your iptables settings are correct?
[09:06] <silvertip257> ok kingsqueak
[09:06] <nikin> livingday: you need root privilegues
[09:07] <SV452> @ Kingsqueak - THANX A BUNCH - It worked !!!!!!
[09:07] <livingdaylight>  i keep getting this :
[09:07] <nikin> so type : sudo apt-get install [packagename]
[09:07] <livingdaylight> E: The package jedit needs to be reinstalled, but I can't find an archive for it.
[09:07] <silvertip257> kingsqueak i'm planning on installing multiple versions to experiment w/ each, so i'm not gonna leave any room (or rather cant)
[09:07] <codecaine> I got it working again
[09:07] <codecaine> :)
[09:07] <Kingsqueak> SV452 cool
[09:07] <SV452> last question
[09:07] <SV452> i have the external usb hdd
[09:07] <THX-1138> Kingsqueak: That looks like mine. But the mechanism ill be final arbitor on booting. all decisions are final and irrevocable. period. - lol
[09:07] <livingdaylight> Kingsqueak: i used wget to download url.jedit and sudo dpkg -i to try to install it
[09:07] <silvertip257> anon32 is 2 gigs an over estimate or a barebones estimate (will that leave enuff room or not for a few other things?
[09:07] <nikin> codecain: thats fine
[09:07] <SV452> how can i make in fstab so anyone can mount/umount and r/w for any user ???
[09:08] <mpathy> Hi there.. How I am able to tell firefox to use the mplayer-plugin primarily and the weird totem-plugin at second place?
[09:08] <anon32> silvertip257, overestimate
[09:08] <nikin> codecain what was the bug?
[09:08] <anon32> silvertip257, you can shrink it by removing packages too
[09:08] <silvertip257> ok ty anon32
[09:08] <livingdaylight> Kingsqueak: then i get the error  E: The package jedit needs to be reinstalled, but I can't find an archive for it.
[09:08] <Kingsqueak> THX-1138 yeah I think I caught a bug in parted, it's not something I'm new to and I've driven myself insane for a week trying anything I could find
[09:08] <anon32> mpathy, edit -> preferences -> downloads -> view and edit actions
[09:08] <mpathy> or otherwise ONLY use mplayer-plugin
[09:08] <silvertip257> well yea, but i'm just using the regular liveCD for ubuntu anon32
[09:08] <anon32> mpathy, also try about:plugins
[09:08] <livingdaylight> Kingsqueak: now i can't install anything else
[09:08] <SB|nblracer> Any one know of a good benchmarking and stress testing tool?
[09:09] <nikin> re
[09:09] <mpathy> anon32: there is only a list nothing to edit
[09:09] <Kingsqueak> livingdaylight sorry, not sure there
[09:09] <livingdaylight> Kingsqueak: seems APT is somehow completely tied in to installing jedit
[09:09] <livingdaylight> arrrrr....
[09:09] <anon32> mpathy, click on it and choose edit?
[09:09] <Kingsqueak> livingdaylight yeah , that's weird, it shouldn't be, something is awry
[09:09] <livingdaylight> Kingsqueak: very awry
[09:09] <Tampler> can you tell me how can i update clamscan
[09:10] <THX-1138> Kingsqueak: Reading through some arcania i stumbled upon the penguin sleuth kit and the app "testdisk". - haven't needed it yet but glad it's there.
[09:10] <Kingsqueak> well I'm off to a house full of screaming 4yr olds for a birthday party, troubleshooting GRUB would be more fun I think
[09:10] <LittleFireCracke> what is the ubuntu command for ipconfig /all?
[09:10] <nikin> living: did you check repo list?
[09:10] <kads> I get a kernel panic after a power loss to my ubutnu machine
[09:10] <livingdaylight> E: The package jedit needs to be reinstalled, but I can't find an archive for it.
[09:10] <livingdaylight> E: Internal error opening cache (1). Please report.
[09:10] <THX-1138> Kingsqueak: lol
[09:10] <nikin> King: poor you :|
[09:10] <livingdaylight> can someone help me please?
[09:11] <Kingsqueak> THX-1138 I think I need to restore the windows boot record, which means a re-install for me, then again I may just say screw it and only use the work laptop Win when I need it
[09:11] <livingdaylight> Synaptic just throws this at me:
[09:11] <bthornton> I'm trying to setup a 32-bit chroot/dchroot'ed environment on my x86_64 Dapper install.  Does anybody know of a script that will setup the chroot'd environment start-to-finish?
[09:11] <pontusen> trying to install cedega, it says xlibs is missing, can't find xlibs in synaptic, help any?
[09:11] <livingdaylight> E: The package jedit needs to be reinstalled, but I can't find an archive for it.
[09:11] <livingdaylight> E: Internal error opening cache (1). Please report.
[09:11] <mpathy> anon32: There are not the filetypes I want to edit in the list - for example, a quicktime movie or a mpeg file sth like that
[09:11] <bthornton> I know such a script exists because I used it, but I can't find it anymore
[09:11] <Allmind> Arrenlex: I have windows 98 on my other computer and i want to install linux on it but it tell me (ok, booting the kernel,and on the bottom it is giving me all these # and beside the # unable to located RSDP) is it because it's an old panasonic CF-25
[09:11] <SV452> how do i make ext3 usb harddrive usable in fstab for everyone on the pc ???
[09:11] <LittleFireCracke> can I force azureus to use another dht port?
[09:11] <kads> livingdaylight: xlibs has to be downloaded from the web at sourceforge
[09:11] <mpathy> anon32: and on about:plugins there is only a list
[09:11] <Kingsqueak> THX-1138 the fun part is the only things I own that require Windows are a Logitech remote and a GPS and only for updating, pain in the ass
[09:11] <livingdaylight> someone know how i can fix E: internal error
[09:11] <kads> livingdaylight: there is a deb file for it
[09:11] <kads> I get a kernel panic after a power loss to my ubutnu machine
[09:11] <silvertip257> i'm dual booting different versions of linux, could there be a max # of partitions for my harddrive ??? cause it says unusable space after i put a few on
[09:11] <anon32> mpathy, ah yes, you have to edit about:config to do that...
[09:11] <Kingsqueak> thanks for the .02 guys
[09:12] <anon32> but in the meantime, you can go to /usr/lib/firefox/plugins and delete the ones you don't like
[09:12] <THX-1138> Logitech makes some good products and some very large drivers
[09:12] <freakabcd> LittleFireCracke, isn;t that question better answered in #azureus ?
[09:12] <livingdaylight> kads: how am i gonna install anything with my computer not letting me?
[09:12] <mpathy> anon32: is there no "ubuntu way" to do that? instead deleting files?
[09:12] <livingdaylight> seems like a Catch-22
[09:12] <LittleFireCracke> freakabcd, sorry right
[09:12] <silvertip257> i'm dual booting different versions of linux, could there be a max # of partitions for my harddrive ??? cause it says unusable space after i put a few on
[09:13] <Kampsun> i want to install listen music player with their own repositories, but i cant do it because there's too many things with word listen in them
[09:13] <atlef> THX-1138 : yes, like their webcams
[09:13] <kads> livingdaylight: synaoptic is not working?
[09:13] <anon32> mpathy, nope, no ubuntu way... but their is a value in about:config that'll show all plugins in the download options
[09:13] <nikin> livingday: if you have the deb : see CD.. then you can install i with dpkg
[09:13] <kads> I also get VFS: unable to mount root fs on unknown-block (0,0)
[09:13] <anon32> I just forgot what it was
[09:13] <anon32> try irc.mozilla.org
[09:13] <THX-1138> Hi atlef
[09:13] <elriah> Before I start trying to figure this out, does anyone know how to get the krb5 client installed on dapper?  It seems to stick on a lib conflict.  It wants krb53ubuntu1 but krb53 is already installed.  I'm fully updated.
[09:13] <atlef> hello again THX-1138
[09:13] <livingdaylight> kads: not at all
[09:13] <mpathy> anon32: okay thx
[09:13] <THX-1138> atlef - Should i peek at the binary or is there a hint in the irssi source?
[09:14] <silvertip257> hey anon32:  i'm dual booting different versions of linux, could there be a max # of partitions for my harddrive ??? cause it says unusable space after i put a few on
[09:14] <atlef> ?
[09:14] <kads> livingdaylight: just download xlibs from the internet in .deb file install that
[09:14] <anon32> silvertip257, probably not
[09:14] <livingdaylight> kads: i cannot use command line
[09:14] <THX-1138> atlef  - binary only?
[09:14] <silvertip257> anon32 then why would it say unusable space ???
[09:14] <kads> livingdaylight: just double click it
[09:14] <kads> kernel panic wiht VFS: unable to mount root fs on unknown-block (0,0) what can Ido
[09:14] <livingdaylight> kads: anything i do in command line it tells me jedit needs to be reinstalled
[09:14] <nikin> im off cu
[09:15] <anon32> silvertip257, err... no idea... but it may or may not be that your hdd has a partition limit (I guess not)
[09:15] <atlef> THX-1138 : i have no clue to what you are saying, noob here
[09:15] <anon32> have you reinstalled grub?
[09:15] <kads> livingdaylight: ok forget jedit
[09:15] <THX-1138> nvm - i have the time. - anything you need help with?
[09:15] <livingdaylight> kads: believe me i want to
[09:15] <silvertip257> anon32, hmmm idk, but this is gay
[09:15] <kads> livingdaylight: the only way to get synaptic to work than to be able to install jedit is
[09:15] <livingdaylight> kads: but cli is not letting me do anything else
[09:15] <anon32> !language > silvertip257
[09:15] <livingdaylight> kads: i'd like that but how?
[09:15] <silvertip257> sorry anon32, dont be like that
[09:16] <kads> livingdaylight: by installing xlibs from a precompile format and installing it
[09:16] <THX-1138> atlef - i mentioned arabic and my machine went mad. - lol
[09:16] <kads> anyone!!! kernel panic wiht VFS: unable to mount root fs on unknown-block (0,0) what can Ido
[09:16] <livingdaylight> kads: :) ok, you win....just tell me how, please
[09:16] <atlef> ohh
[09:16] <anon32> silvertip257, but your situation confuses me... I am not geek enough to fix it
[09:16] <kads> livingdaylight: google xlibs
[09:16] <silvertip257> ah ok anon32
[09:16] <LittleFireCracke> skype doesn' t like my usb mic.
[09:16] <atlef> THX-1138 : i see, have to be carefull
[09:17] <kads> livingdaylight: here is the link http://packages.debian.org/stable/libs/xlibs
[09:17] <Allmind>  I have windows 98 on my other computer and i want to install linux on it but it tell me (ok, booting the kernel,and on the bottom it is giving me all these # and beside the # unable to located RSDP) is it because it's an old panasonic CF-25
[09:18] <JoeMama> hi
[09:18] <kads> download the xlibs at the bottom of the page and than double click on that to install xlibs restart and than use synaptics to install jedit
[09:18] <LittleFireCracke> how can I force ubuntu to use my usb mic, instead of my non existing mic on soundcard?
[09:18] <kads> anyone!!! kernel panic wiht VFS: unable to mount root fs on unknown-block (
[09:18] <ninwa> does anyone know offhand if anything in the last ubuntu edgy upgrade broke wifi cards?
[09:18] <SV452> how do i add fstab entries for new storage dev's ???????
[09:19] <livingdaylight> kads: you guru, you.... thank you :-*
[09:19] <zyclop> SV452: try reading the manpage for fstab
[09:19] <BHSPitLappy> LittleFireCracke, you want to use a usb mic, but speakers on your built-in soundcard?
[09:19] <codecaine> I get error -103741772
[09:20] <codecaine> when trying to access a share :/
[09:20] <LittleFireCracke> BHSPitLappy, yes.
[09:20] <atlef> ninwa : i got my wifi to work only if i also had it plugged in, don't know why yet
[09:20] <SV452> to be honest i don't have time to read a man page - hence the reason why i am here
[09:20] <BHSPitLappy> LittleFireCracke, sounds tricky
[09:20] <ninwa> atlef, my wifi worked until my last reboot
[09:20] <anon32> SV452, add your device name, mount point, type, and options in that order
[09:20] <ninwa> without having changed anything
[09:20] <ninwa> and the only thing I can think that changed was I might've done a distrobution only upgrade
[09:20] <ninwa> for edgy
[09:21] <drivera> Alright, I got my Ubuntu CD people. What do I do know to migrate from WinXP?
[09:21] <LittleFireCracke> I could also just spend ten bucks on a normal mic. But I'm cheap and quality of the usb mic is very good. BHSPitLappy
[09:21] <BHSPitLappy> LittleFireCracke, double click on the Volume icon up there, and look at the menu
[09:21] <BHSPitLappy> under Change Device
[09:21] <SV452> ./dev/sdb1 /media/sdb1 ext3 then i need all users to read/write mount/umount
[09:21] <BHSPitLappy> your mic shoud be there, but the issue is... I think you're either using your mic, or your soundcard
[09:21] <THX-1138> atlef - a complete reinstall only takes a couple of minutes. not everyone is civil in a room this large.