[12:32] <Ben64> because any other distro won't have the same problems if you cause them?
[12:33] <cfhowlett> Ben64, if ever there was  a pebkas error, he was it.  I'd like to know how he brute forced 14.04 - 15.04 just out of morbid curiousity
[12:34] <Ben64> 14.04 - 15.04 ?
[12:34] <Ben64> i didn't see that
[12:34] <cfhowlett> that was his claim.
[12:34] <cfhowlett> that's why he was told repeatedly to reinstall
[12:35] <Ben64> theonlyjoey?
[12:35] <cfhowlett> ah, no.  sorry.  confused with stobix
[12:35] <Ben64> ah
[12:35] <Ben64> thought my logs were missing time
[15:55] <daftykins> :)
[16:02] <daftykins> mmm Amy's ice cream in Austin was amazing
[16:55] <daftykins> r...r...r...rage quit :)
[19:21] <daftykins> working a Casablanca quote into IRC support --> IT level pro
[19:28] <Bashing-om> daftykins: When you are good, YOU are good ?
[19:28] <daftykins> ;)
[20:24] <daftykins> this 'oncemeold' deserves the winter award for... well several unrepeatable expletives
[20:25] <TJ-> :D
[20:30] <Bashing-om> bekks deserves a hugh reward for exerting impressive patience with oncemeold !
[20:31] <daftykins> indeed
[20:31] <daftykins> perhaps cookies are in order
[20:31] <TJ-> A stiff drink more-like
[20:31] <daftykins> hehehe
[20:31] <daftykins> perhaps we should start gauging helpees by quantity of drinks required
[20:32] <Bashing-om> daftykins: What is the highest order of cookies ? Me thinks chocolate chip /// .
[20:32] <daftykins> hmm, i'm quite fond of the belgian chocolate ones i can get here - they're probably pushing the ranks of cookies :)
[20:35] <Bashing-om> ohhhh ... Belgian chocolate ! .. now I am jealous .
[20:35] <wileee> I prefer my carmel ignore
[20:36] <Bashing-om> I guess the IRC cookie bin needs to be extended .
[20:37] <TJ-> Internet Real Cookies ?
[20:38] <daftykins> i really want cookies now :(
[20:38] <daftykins> i bought some werthers originals sweets today but i made a mistake, they're some kind of caramel filled ones instead of the standard hard ones
[20:38] <Bashing-om> TJ-: I bet getting that " Internet Real Cookies " will really push your abilities .
[20:39]  * wileee hits the local med dispensary, and leaves there special cookies on the back table
[20:39] <wileee> ;)
[20:40] <TJ-> Bulls Eyes we used to call them; As a kid used to carry bags of them in the farm lorry when we were out on trips
[20:40] <wileee> they slow you down slightly, but the depth of thought is wide
[20:41] <Bashing-om> wileee: After all is good, it is - I am told - the thought that counts .
[20:42] <wileee> that is the idea, I like that there is a core o helpers that will help anyone all the way to the end, makes it easier for all of us.
[20:43] <TJ-> Some users seem to be their own worst enemy, sometimes you've got to let them fail spectularly to get the message home
[20:44] <TJ-> s/spectularly/spectacularly/
[20:44] <wileee> Yeah and have the patience to do that, my theory is people who have famly'd up and have kids.
[20:45] <wileee> I've heard that is the test, heh
[20:45] <daftykins> usually is those that are refusing to do things right, yeah
[20:46] <TJ-> I had a weird one on my Wily laptop earlier during a package upgrade... update-initramfs run via dpkg complained about not being able to find the modules for "initrd.img-v.2.0.14-lowlatency" - note the version string!
[20:47] <daftykins> lol
[20:47] <daftykins> do you even use an LL kernel on there o0
[20:47] <TJ-> Yes
[20:47] <TJ-> always; its much more responsive for a desktop system
[20:47] <daftykins> ah well at least that was close :>
[20:48] <daftykins> interesting, i always thought it was just the Linux ricers doing that
[20:48] <TJ-> "v.2.0-14" ... should be "4.2.0-14"
[20:48] <TJ-> no; -generic is OK for servers but if you want user responsive behaviour lowlatency is much better - no weird lags in the GUI whilst something else is active
[20:49] <Bashing-om> TJ-: Someone going where no man should go, and editing system files ?
[20:50] <TJ-> Bashing-om: I suspect I must have mistyped a few days ago whilst doing an update but I don't see sign of it in the shell history; Made me scratch my head though :)
[20:53] <TJ-> oncemeold is more like a Google pre-selection test :D
[20:54] <Bashing-om> TJ-: How long did it take you to figure that out ? I have done boo boos and taken me days ( as it still happens ) to tumble onto what I had done .
[20:55] <TJ-> Bashing-om: Well; first I assumed it had come from the packages being updated, but then I twigged the version had a 'v' in it, and was missing the '4' so started to suspect the user :D
[20:55] <TJ-> I swear the auto-suggest on my Android phone has been teaching my fingers some tricks :p
[20:58] <Bashing-om> TJ-: Uh huh .. loke we keep telling oncemeold .. pay attention to what the package manager is telling you . That said, I still miss lillte innuendos.  TJ- is off to bed in a few minutes :D
[21:41] <daftykins> :)
[21:41] <daftykins> oh dear, that leaves all the encryption experience behind for #ubuntu
[21:44] <TJ-> ecryptfs-recover-private will do 1 of 2 things: 1) search all mount points for the home/.ecryptfs/ directory and offer to mount any EFS found as home/.ecryptfs/<USER>/.Private or 2) unlock/mount a specific location given, e.g. "sudo ecryptfa-recover-private /mnt/home/.ecryptfs/<USER>/.Private" ... it will ask the user if they know the user password and if so, ask for it, and use it. If that fails,
[21:45] <TJ-> it'll ask for the original master passphrase. If either works, it'll mount the user's unencrypted files in a mktemp dir-name under /tmp/ecryptfs.XXXX
[21:45] <Bashing-om> If and when I leave this chair behind, we have a Shih Tzu that has the purpose to keep the captains' chair warm . Our devoted companions !
[21:46] <TJ-> If the user accidentally uses it to mount e.g. /mnt/home/<USER> instead it'll just effective bind-mount that same directory (no unlocking done) under /tmp/ecryptfs.XXXX - which is what oncemeold did earlier
[21:50] <daftykins> TJ-: nn sir o/
[21:50]  * TJ- waves
[21:51] <OerHeks> now wait for the pasteflood :-D
[21:51] <TJ-> Have fun :)
[21:52] <Bashing-om> back to the fun room / what ever to do with oncemeold .. Kinda glad it is out of my range .
[21:54] <daftykins> same here, i have no clue with encryption
[21:54] <daftykins> and this is a tough customer for sure
[22:03] <Bashing-om> Going off in a tangent and NOT following advise, not condusive to getting resolution .
[22:06] <daftykins> indeed :(
[22:07] <OerHeks> a bot?
[22:13] <daftykins> he might as well be, he listens that well ;)