[00:00] <squinty> feneco,  after you opened nautilus (files) did you right click on the icon on the laucher to make it stick?
[00:00] <Madhumper69> i have been upgrading 16.04 since alpha stages to beta 1 then 2 then the final stages... my question is what kernel version is latests for the final release?
[00:00] <ubuntu174> I can't seem to get ubuntu to boot from a USB. I put the iso on via unetbootin, but it just keeps trying to boot into windows again. Am I missing something? When booting I push f12 a bunch and say to boot via usb hdd
[00:00] <feneco> squinty: it disappears even with the app opened
[00:01] <feneco> https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/m8HhAkuc/
[00:02] <lucas-arg> just came to say, after 30 minutes or 45 minutes of a clean installation, that this system is incredible... thanks ubuntu!!!
[00:02] <citizenruin> lucas-arg: what flavor did you go with
[00:02] <idungoofed> I was in the middle of upgrading from 15.04 to 16 and mistakenly hit the power button mid configuration. I restarted in recovery mode to hopefully finish the install but a few packages seem... to be goofed up. dpkg --configure -a didn't help, apt, cups and a few other packages were hanging during setup (just no output or change)
[00:02] <squinty> feneco,  maybe try installing nautilus again to see if it will stick    sudo apt install --reinstall nautilus
[00:02] <lucas-arg> citizenruin: ubuntu unity
[00:03] <idungoofed> 15.10 -> 16.04 sorry
[00:03] <Madhumper69> I have been upgrading 16.04 since alpha stages to beta 1 then 2 then the final stages... my question is what kernel version is latests for the final release?
[00:04] <AlexQ1> Madhumper69: You can just check the metapackage
[00:04] <feneco> squinty: what's the difference between using apt and apt-get?
[00:04] <ubuntu174> I'm having trouble getting ubuntu to install. Mostly because I don't want to wipe out windows, since most of my games demand windows, and some won't run in a VM.
[00:04] <citizenruin> madhumper69 as of lastweek when i updated mine i beleive it is 4.4.0-18-generic
[00:04] <AlexQ1> linux-generic
[00:04] <idungoofed> ubuntu174: they now have ubuntu in windows
[00:04] <Madhumper69> Linux server-OptiPlex-390 4.4.6-040406-generic #201603161231 SMP Wed Mar 16 16:33:41 UTC 2016 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[00:05] <Madhumper69> i dont know how i got this kernel version of 4.4.6??
[00:05] <idungoofed> ubuntu174: https://blogs.windows.com/buildingapps/2016/03/30/run-bash-on-ubuntu-on-windows/
[00:05] <AlexQ1> You can just type "linux-generic ubuntu" in your favorite web search engine and that should find you a package page on Ubuntus website
[00:05] <nownot> reisio : do you have advice on my fsck is in use question? the drive was / is unmounted
[00:05] <ubuntu174> idungoofed: I'll check that out. Thanks
[00:06] <Madhumper69> thanks alex
[00:06] <reisio> nownot: what makes you think it's unmounted?
[00:07] <nownot> reisio : i ran umount command and the folder it was mounted to is now empty
[00:08] <Madhumper69> i have no idea how i ended up with kernel 4.4.6 on ubuntu 16.04 LTS... i am being told 4.4.0 is latests , Is this a problem?
[00:08] <citizenruin> as far as ubuntu cares would it be wise for me to wipe and reinstall just to add two partitions one for / and one for swap the rest for /home?
[00:08] <pmp6nl> I want to do a fresh install for 16.04 rather than an upgrade. If I copy the .ssh folder to the new install will I be able to log into my web server the same way I can now via ssh? Thanks
[00:08] <citizenruin> madhumper69 can you check the md5 and see what results you get in google?
[00:08] <squinty> feneco,  you can also try opening the Dash -> files -> and then click and hold on it's icon and then drag/drop in on the laucher
[00:09] <AlexQ1> Madhumper69: Well, you can always downgrade if you want, can't you?
[00:09] <coolspot_> hi
[00:09] <dax> pmp6nl: yes
[00:09] <squinty> feneco,  will leave the apt/apt-get differences to someone else :P
[00:09] <reisio> nownot: try fsck again, then
[00:09] <xHaVoK87> Is Ubuntu 16.04 having issues at all with like installs on systems?
[00:09] <pmp6nl> dax thanks
[00:10] <Guy1524_> where can I find the X Server Log
[00:10] <Madhumper69> i might have upgrade to this kernel manually thinking it was latests as the number was higher then 4.4.0 however all works fine... im not sure if fixing it to 4.4.0 is wroth it?
[00:10] <nownot> reisio : sigh ......
[00:10] <Apachez> great... uck is borked and live-magic is gone... any other hints regardng remastering ubuntu iso to properly get languagepacks?
[00:10] <Madhumper69> or what is ahppening because of this... im 3months new to ubuntu and have come along way in understanding alot of thinhgs but the kernel is one thing that im not to familiar with
[00:11] <reisio> nownot: ?
[00:11] <Guy1524_> guys, there is something in my x server log I found in failsafe mode and now I need to find it so I can share it with you
[00:12] <nownot> reisio : i did the unmount before I ran fsck like I said above
[00:12] <reisio> nownot: let's see your 'mount' output
[00:12] <feneco> squinty: no worries, thanks
[00:13] <feneco> when i lock it to launcher, it works, but if i just open nautilus without being locked to launcher, the icon disappears, even with nautilus opened
[00:13] <nownot> reisio : https://gist.github.com/anonymous/808b9dafab1ffe841c988b9bba023133
[00:13] <feneco> ~upgrade feelings~
[00:13] <deadmund> My vlc will not play .wmv files.  I have ubuntu-restricted-extras and libavcodec-extra installed.  What am I doing wrong?
[00:14] <Guy1524_> found it
[00:14] <joeberardis> hello?
[00:14] <reisio> deadmund: what's ffmpeg -i foo.wmv 2>&1 | egrep -i 'video:|audio:' say?
[00:14] <reisio> joeberardis: bye
[00:14] <deadmund> reisio: I don't have ffmpeg and the package that provides it is a different name?  What do I need to install to get ffmpeg? (this is 14.04)
[00:14] <reisio> nownot: /dev/sda2 on / type ext4 (rw,relatime,errors=remount-ro,data=ordered)
[00:15] <reisio> deadmund: whatever provides it will suffice
[00:15] <nownot> reisio : that devices isn't part of the raid, thats my boot drive
[00:15] <Gallomimia> okay so i've been trying to rebuild my initrd and finally got frustrated and uncompressed it. i've found that it has failed to include my crypttab or anything to decrypt my main drive. so the boot fails. can anyone tell me how to have that included?
[00:15] <deadmund> reisio: apt-file search ffmpeg says so much stuff.  Do you know the package name by chance?
[00:15] <moat_joe> I can't seem to deploy an instance using ami: ami-840910ee
[00:15] <moat_joe> From here: https://cloud-images.ubuntu.com/query/xenial/server/released.current.txt
[00:16] <reisio> deadmund: libav perhaps
[00:16] <ratrace> deadmund: apt-cache search --names-only ...
[00:16] <reisio> deadmund: apt-file search ffmpeg | egrep -i '^libav|^ffmpeg'
[00:16] <deadmund> reisio: ed@livingroom:~$ apt-file search /usr/bin/ffmpeg
[00:16] <deadmund> ffmpeg2theora: /usr/bin/ffmpeg2theora
[00:16] <deadmund> ffmpegthumbnailer: /usr/bin/ffmpegthumbnailer
[00:16] <deadmund> ratrace: ed@livingroom:~$ ^^
[00:16] <deadmund> that's all it gives, nothing supplies ffmpeg on 14.04?
[00:16] <ratrace> oh you're doing a file search... ignore what I said :)
[00:17] <deadmund> WTF?
[00:17] <reisio> deadmund: apt-file search ffmpeg | egrep -i '^libav|^ffmpeg'
[00:17] <ratrace> !info ffmpeg
[00:17] <Bashing-om> deadmund: ffmeg is not in the 14.04's repo, its "avconv" now ->  avconv is in libavtools. make sure libavcodec-extra-54 is installed .
[00:18] <reisio> well, it's 'avconv' _then_ :p
[00:18] <ratrace> ugh avconv....
[00:18] <deadmund> reisio: returns nothing
[00:18] <deadmund> I guess it's avconv   ok hang on
[00:18] <deadmund> libav-tools and libavcodec-extra-54 are already installed
[00:19] <reisio> try avconv, then
[00:19] <reisio> deadmund: what's avconv -i foo.wmv 2>&1 | egrep -i 'video:|audio:' say?
[00:19] <torpet> When I click "restart" in Ubuntu after installation, I see a blackscreen, but the PC never reboots.
[00:19] <torpet> Do I run the risk of booting an unclean filesystem when I forcefully shutdown the pc?
[00:20] <deadmund> reisio: it says: Stream #0.0: Video: wmv3 (Main), yuv420p, 720x480, 8000 kb/s, PAR 6:5 DAR 9:5, 29.97 fps, 29.97 tbr, 1k tbn
[00:20] <reisio> torpet: technically yes, realistically no
[00:20] <deadmund> definitely a file
[00:20] <Guy1524_> I found this in syslog: no nvidia graphics adapter probed
[00:20] <flask-> reisio: well, my kernel would not boot.
[00:20] <reisio> torpet: if it went to reboot, the installation was done
[00:21] <reisio> torpet: it's supposed to display a screen saying to remove the install media and press enter
[00:21] <ubuntu045> Is there a wubi equivalent for the 16.04? My computer simply won't let me boot from a USB and keeps trying to boot my old OS.
[00:21] <reisio> torpet: you might try removing the install media and pressing enter, to see if it's working except for displaying properly
[00:21] <torpet> Oh OK
[00:21] <flask-> reisio: i have one of those encrypted SSD drives and the new kernel would not prompt me to decrypt it
[00:21] <reisio> otherwise I wouldn't particularly worry about it, and just reboot
[00:21] <torpet> yeah'll i'll try that
[00:21] <Guy1524_> the nvidia probe routine was not called for 1 device(s)
[00:21] <Guy1524_> is that the problem?
[00:22] <Guy1524_> ill try blacklisting nouveau
[00:22] <Bashing-om> !wubi | ubuntu045
[00:22] <ubuntu045> !install
[00:24] <nownot> reisio : looking at lsof I see this http://imgur.com/KEXelLx
[00:24] <nownot> so theres a process using the drive :/
[00:24] <n1md4> pff upgrading has been painful.  the software-updater broken half way though.  the usb installer worked, but the ui session was broken - I didn't realise this was the gpu propri. driver playing up at the time!  install again, then remeber, etc, etc, weak lemon drink, etc... working now!
[00:25] <n1md4> unity 8 and mir don't want to play with propri. drivers though.
[00:27] <Guy1524_> damn it, I give up, I tried blacklisting nouveau but that did not work, whenever I log in after the gnome thing finishes turning it puts me into tty1, the screen starts flashing every few seconds, and I can't type
[00:27] <Guy1524_> does anyone have any idea what is going on?
[00:28] <Guy1524_> all this could have been avoided if nvidia-364.16 was on 16.04
[00:28] <Guy1524_> who is in control of that anyway, nvidia or canonical
[00:28] <torpet> reisio: the installer says... installation is complete. you need to restart the computer in order to use the new installation.
[00:28] <reisio> torpet: so do that
[00:29] <torpet> reisio: I did that twice and I keep seeing a black screen
[00:29] <torpet> the ubuntu live system still running
[00:29] <reisio> torpet: take the install media out, reboot
[00:29] <Guy1524_> so nobody has a clue?  well shit, I guess Ill have to stop developing my game engine until either nvidia or canonical get their stuff together ): ): ):
[00:30] <reisio> I can't speak for anyone else, but I stopped trying to help you after you ignored my second question
[00:30] <reisio> can't help without answered questions
[00:30] <torpet> reisio: even though the installer doesn't say to take install media out?
[00:30] <Gallomimia> anyway phunyguy i'm pretty sure cryptsetup is installed properly. anything i can do to check besides cryptsetup being in $PATH
[00:31] <reisio> torpet: just take it out before the system fully reboots, before the bootsplash
[00:31] <Term1nal> ok, so I've installed 16.04, yay, now........ glaring issue.
[00:31] <Bashing-om> Guy1524_: There are those ( many) working real real hard on that issue : https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-desktop/2015-August/004693.html
[00:31] <Term1nal> How do I turn off mouse acceleration?
[00:31] <Term1nal> it's ridiculous
[00:31] <reisio> Term1nal: xset m... somethin'
[00:31] <mattfly_> hey
[00:32] <mattfly_> hardcore help needed here
[00:32] <Term1nal> like, ubuntu seems to have a fetish with removing options that were available in previous versions.
[00:32] <reisio> Term1nal: xset m default
[00:32] <Guy1524_> Bashing-om: yes, 364.16 worked great on 15.10, but the packages didn't carry over to 16.04
[00:32] <reisio> Term1nal: that's GNOME, really, IME :p
[00:32] <torpet> reisio: oh yeah of course, but the ubuntu installer hangs when i press reboot
[00:32] <reisio> torpet: press reboot longer
[00:32] <Guy1524_> I wish it was possible to use 15.10 packages w/ 16.04.   I have installed the Equalizer alsa plugin, is there any filter like that to use with alsamixer?
[00:33] <Term1nal> throwing it in startup
[00:33] <n1md4> Guy1524_: what were you saying about nvidia-361?
[00:33] <reisio> Term1nal: that'd be the simple forget-about-it fix :p
[00:33] <reisio> Term1nal: it's apparently in mouse prefs, in control panel thingy
[00:33] <Term1nal> the fact that mouse acceleration is not an option in the settings menu seems to me to be another of the glaring oversights Ubuntu seems to be so fond of making.
[00:33] <Guy1524_> nvidia 361 is terrible, my games crash and it has no vulkan support and it is slower than other ones
[00:34] <Term1nal> reisio: it isn't
[00:34] <Guy1524_> it is the newest one that is avaible on 16.04
[00:34] <Gallomimia> haven't had that great of an experience either since i updated to 361
[00:34] <reisio> Term1nal: gnome-mouse-properties?
[00:34] <Jordan_U> Term1nal: Please stick to your support question and avoid the ranting and opinions.
[00:34] <torpet> reisio: are the filesystems unmounted at that stage of the installation?
[00:34] <reisio> Term1nal: gpointing-device-settings?
[00:34] <Guy1524_> however 364 is on 15.10 and works amazingly
[00:34] <reisio> torpet: couldn't tell you
[00:34] <Bashing-om> Guy1524_: see: https://launchpad.net/~graphics-drivers/+archive/ubuntu/ppa .
[00:34] <Gallomimia> so, now that i am not asking for help in offtopic, can anyone in here suggest a way to fix my initrd? it seems to fail at installing cryptsetup and crypttab
[00:35] <reisio> torpet: most FSes can survive a lame dismount
[00:35] <Term1nal> reisio: CNF on both of those
[00:35] <reisio> xfs not so much among them
[00:35] <Guy1524_> Bashing-om: been there done that
[00:35] <reisio> and reiserfs can barely survive being used at all
[00:35] <n1md4> Guy1524_: Ah.  I thought it was only 361 on 15.10 - but I'll take your word for it.
[00:35] <Guy1524_> Bashing-om: it still doesn't have nvidia-364 for 16.04
[00:35] <reisio> Term1nal: weird; got me
[00:35] <reisio> Term1nal: maybe it's exposed by some ridiculous foo-tweak-tool
[00:36] <Bashing-om> Guy1524_: "  nvidia-graphics-drivers-364364.15-0ubuntu1~gpu16.04.3 " .
[00:36] <Guy1524_> what is that?
[00:36] <Bashing-om> Guy1524_: 364 version for 16.04 .
[00:37] <Guy1524_> brb moving to my computer
[00:37] <Guy1524> ok back, did I miss anything
[00:37] <gsilvapt> Hello all. Can anybody install Google Chrome on Ubuntu 16.04?
[00:37] <Guy1524> gsilvapt: I have it installed on from before I upgraded and it works
[00:38] <Guy1524> anyway, could I have that link again?
[00:38] <gsilvapt> Right. I just made a clean installation and I am having issues installing Chrome
[00:38] <Guy1524> nvm found it
[00:38] <Bashing-om> Guy1524: https://launchpad.net/~graphics-drivers/+archive/ubuntu/ppa .
[00:38] <Guy1524> thanks
[00:39] <squinty> gsilvapt,  did it earlier today with xubuntu 16.04 and no problems installing in unity 16.04 either (installed since first beta)
[00:39] <ubuntu045> the install method seems to assume I have one HD and one partition. I can't seem to make it install on a split partition.
[00:39] <gsilvapt> Right, thanks. Than it is something wrong in my end. Will do more tests soon
[00:39] <Guy1524> ppa:graphics-drivers/ppa   is what I should add right
[00:39] <squinty> gsilvapt,  download the chrome deb from chrome site and then use gdebi to install
[00:39] <Bashing-om> Guy1524: Just covering bases, you know to purge ALL prior driver install attempts .. and add the PPA ??
[00:40] <Euclid> helo all I need help
[00:40] <Gallomimia> hi euclid
[00:40] <Guy1524> yes, I have been using sudo apt-get purge nvidia*
[00:40] <Gallomimia> !ask | euclid
[00:40] <gsilvapt> I did that. When it opens in the software center (snappy), and when I click install, it does nothing
[00:40] <Guy1524> Bashing-om: is it safe to purge drivers when not in recovery mode?
[00:40] <Gallomimia> i'm also in need of help. i can't seem to make update-initramfs include my cryptsetup
[00:41] <Bashing-om> Guy1524: Have you purged the Nvidia driver at this time ... then I relate how to install 364 from the PPA .
[00:41] <Guy1524> Bashing-om: I am in gnome right now, will it crash if I purge while running a session
[00:41] <n1md4> Why do you have to purge any way?
[00:41] <squinty> gsilvapt,  as said  use gdebi    sudo apt install gdebi    then after, right click on file name -> open with gdebi  rather than software center
[00:41] <Guy1524> so the modules dont conflict
[00:42] <Bashing-om> Guy1524: Nope .. what is in memory stays in memory ; til a reboot .
[00:42] <Euclid> I recently purchased an MSI laptop, and am trying to install ubuntu 16.04 on it. I have already deleted the nvidia drivers through windows 10 (gross) and have unselected several options in the bios. Has anyone else been able to get it to work on their machine yet?
[00:42] <Guy1524> Bashing-om: ok cool
[00:42] <gsilvapt> okay, will try. Thanks, squinty
[00:42] <Guy1524> purging now
[00:42] <squinty> gsilvapt, yw
[00:42] <joeberardis_> nvidia issues with ubuntu gnome anyone?
[00:43] <joeberardis_> nomodeset in /etc/default/grub doesnt fix the issue
[00:43] <chrobert> has anyone with 16.04 been able to get network-manager-vpnc installed and show up in network connections when adding a vpn?
[00:43] <Guy1524> Bashing-om: ok, purged nvidia* and added the ppa
[00:43] <chrobert> worked so far from 14.04 up but here i installed network-manager-vpnc and it wont show up
[00:44] <Euclid> what is the nomodeset command, every time I try and use it it tells me it isn't found
[00:44] <Guy1524> none of the packages show up
[00:44] <Guy1524> I have done sudo apt-get update
[00:44] <joeberardis_> no mode set is an attribute in the grub file located in /etc/default
[00:44] <Guy1524> oh nvm there is a custom way to install the ppa
[00:44] <Bashing-om> joeberardis_: "nomodeset" is a temporary thing to disable KMS. then install the appriopriate driver .
[00:45] <Euclid> I press E in the grub boot menu, and then add the boot commands there, is that the same place?
[00:45] <chrobert> only vpn option that shows up is pptp
[00:45] <joeberardis_> Bashing-om: even if i do update-grub?
[00:46] <Bashing-om> Guy1524: ' sudo add-apt-repository ppa:graphics-drivers/ppa ; sudo apt-get update ; sudo apt-get install nvidia-364 nvidia-prime ; sudo reboot ' .
[00:46] <sam_yan> Does ubuntu implement offline update by systemd?
[00:46] <squinty> Euclid, Press the e key on getting the GRUB bootloader. Using arrow keys navigate to and delete quiet and splash and type the word nomodeset in their place. Press Ctrl and X at the same time to continue booting
[00:47] <chrobert> would it be fine to install the network-manager-vpnc pkg from 15.10?
[00:47] <Guy1524> Bashing-om: ok, so I added the lines to /etc/apt/sources.list but when I do sudo apt-get update, it says this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/15974768/
[00:47] <Guest85754> hi
[00:47] <Guy1524> Bashing-om: ok, Ill remove those lines
[00:47] <workisfun> Hi guys I'm on Ubuntu 14.04 but `sudo update-manager -d` isn't bringing up the new 16.04 release
[00:48] <workisfun> Is there something wrong with my computer?
[00:48] <Bashing-om> joeberardis_: 'update-grub' will have no effect in nullifimg defeating (K)ernel (M)ode (S)etting. when the parameter is set from /etc/default/grub .
[00:48] <Guy1524> oh wow thats working
[00:48] <Guy1524> I see you tied in a sudo reboot
[00:48] <Guy1524> hopefully this works lol
[00:49] <Guy1524> thanks SO much
[00:49] <braderhart> Anyone else having issues with 16.04 installing deb packages using the Software Center?
[00:49] <Guy1524> braderhart: software or ubuntu software center
[00:49] <n1md4> Guy1524: I have the 364 driver now ... don't know if this can be any way related, but my wifi now does not work!
[00:49] <squinty> workisfun,  it's do-upgrade-release -d   iirc
[00:49] <chrobert> nope that didnt do it either :(
[00:49] <chrobert> i guess network manager is broke in 16.04
[00:50] <joeberardis_> Bashing-om: So I will need to edit it when I boot up in the 'e' menu with grub?
[00:50] <chrobert> or not seeing the vpnc plugin
[00:50] <braderhart> Guy1524: Ubuntu Software
[00:50] <braderhart> I tried install Chrome using the deb from their site, but I can't get any deb package to install using the default handler
[00:51] <Bashing-om> workisfun: What returns ' grep Prompt= /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades ' ?
[00:51] <workisfun> squinty:`sudo do-upgrade-release -d`? I see a `do-release-upgrade` is that the same thing?
[00:51] <chrobert> braderhart, what about sudo dpkg -i <pkg>
[00:51] <boyblunder_> when I install network-manager-openconnect-gnome, it doesn't show up in network manager -- yet I am able to VPN successfully via command line (openconnect command)
[00:51] <boyblunder_> this is on 16.04
[00:51] <chrobert> boyblunder_, im having same issue
[00:51] <Bashing-om> joeberardis_: Restate your issue for me .. and we take it from the top .
[00:51] <braderhart> chrobert: Yes that works, however it isn't ideal as dpkg doesn't handle dependencies
[00:51] <chrobert> but with vpnc
[00:52] <squinty> workisfun,  sorry brain fart on my end   yes use yours
[00:52] <chrobert> vpnc from cli works
[00:52] <chrobert> but it will not show up in network manager gui
[00:52] <chrobert> braderhart, true but its a fall back
[00:52] <boyblunder_> chrobert, vpnc works for me! how strange
[00:52] <squinty> boyblunder_,  download chrome deb from chrome site ->   sudo apt install gdebi    then after, right click on file name -> open with gdebi  rather than software cente
[00:52] <workisfun> Bashing-om:it's loading (?), I'm going to try running do-release-upgrade -d in the mean time
[00:52] <chrobert> boyblunder_, even tried network-manager-vpnc from 15.10 it wont see it in the gui
[00:52] <n1md4> boyblunder_: have you install network-manager-openconnect and network-manager-openconnect-gnome ?
[00:53] <braderhart> chrobert: Yes, but I want to see if others are having the same issue as it is not a positive user experience when default apps aren't working
[00:53] <boyblunder_> n1md4, yes
[00:53] <Guy1524_> thank you SOOOO much, that worked!!!!
[00:53] <boyblunder_> squinty, i'm not having issues with chrome...i'm having openconnect not showing up in network-manager issues
[00:53] <n1md4> hmm - that's all, just I had the same problem with openvpn
[00:53] <Bashing-om> workisfun: That is the correct command if the above returns " Prompt=lts " .
[00:53] <workisfun> squinty:it returns: checking for a new ubuntu release \n No new release found
[00:53] <chrobert> boyblunder_, how did you get it to work? did you just install network-manager-vpnc?
[00:53] <braderhart> squinty: I think you meant that for me
[00:53] <boyblunder_> chrobert, i installed network-manager-vpnc-gnome
[00:54] <chrobert> trying now
[00:54] <Euclid> Is it possible to install the nvidia drivers now?
[00:54] <squinty> braderhart,  boyblunder_   yes sorry got ma b's mixed up :P
[00:54] <Bashing-om> Guy1524_: I never had a doubt ... See it pays to be patient, do it right the 1st time :) .
[00:54] <joeberardis> Bashing-om: Tried the 364 ppa method yuo described earlier and it also did not work
[00:54] <chrobert> boyblunder_, that worked thank you :)
[00:54] <chrobert> i was missing the -gnome pkg
[00:54] <chrobert> hmm in older versions it must have been a dep
[00:54] <boyblunder_> awesome
[00:54] <braderhart> Can someone else try installing the Chrome deb using the default file handler in Firefox and let me know if it works?
[00:55] <workisfun> Bashing-om:the command returns checking for a new ubuntu release \n No new release found
[00:55] <Euclid> why don't you just install it from the terminal?
[00:55] <Bashing-om> joeberardis: If you make the edit to /etc/default/grub .. than you must undo it for the driver to be recognized .. and 364 may not be the correct driver for your card .. we do not even know that you are running Nvidia graphics .
[00:56] <Guy1524_> Bashing-om: ok, I guess I learned my lession (:, thanks again and cya later
[00:56] <braderhart> Euclid: Chrome sets up the apt sources when you install the deb. Again, this is about making sure things work not trying to frustrate users and tell them to settle for broken
[00:56] <effectnet> hello in here
[00:56] <boyblunder_> these are the network-manager packages i have installed, https://paste.ubuntu.com/15974831/, and i can't get openconnect to show up in the gui -- can anyone help?
[00:56] <boyblunder_> 16.04
[00:56] <n1md4> weird. back to nvidia-361 and wifi returns
[00:56] <chrobert> braderhart, i had the same issue with chrome :( it would not install with the software store, it just hung. but i feel you i miss the old software store already, it seemed to work better installing 3rd party debs
[00:56] <n1md4> stoopid!
[00:56] <joeberardis> Bashing-om: nvidia Gt 750m
[00:57] <chrobert> it was a good user experience
[00:57] <effectnet> can i share some files to win7 machines?
[00:57] <braderhart> chrobert: Thanks for confirming. I'll submit a bug report :) I don't really miss the old store personally. I'm going to start building some snaps to help
[00:57] <n1md4> Bashing-om: how can i know which is the right driver for a gtx980m?
[00:58] <chrobert> cool :)
[00:58] <Euclid> Does any of the compiz stuff work on Ubuntu 16.04?
[00:59] <squinty> Euclid, it better as unity uses it
[00:59] <Bashing-om> joeberardis: Nvida recommends the 361 version driver ( not to say the 364 will not work ) . http://www.nvidia.com/download/driverResults.aspx/101423/en-us . Show me in a pastenin ' dpkg -l | grep -i nvidia ' . Let's verify what is installed .
[01:00] <serianox> is zfs enabled by default on 16.04 ? how do I set it up?
[01:01] <joeberardis> dpkg -l | grep -i nvidia
[01:01] <joeberardis> ii  bbswitch-dkms                               0.8-3ubuntu1                                        amd64        Interface for toggling the power on NVIDIA Optimus video cards
[01:01] <joeberardis> ii  libcuda1-364                                364.15-0ubuntu1~gpu16.04.3                          amd64        NVIDIA CUDA runtime library
[01:01] <joeberardis> rc  nvidia-304-updates                          304.131-0ubuntu3                                    amd64        NVIDIA legacy binary driver - version 304.131
[01:01] <joeberardis> rc  nvidia-opencl-icd-304-updates               304.131-0ubuntu3                                    amd64        NVIDIA OpenCL ICD
[01:01] <joeberardis> rc  nvidia-opencl-icd-361                       361.42-0ubuntu2                                     amd64        NVIDIA OpenCL ICD
[01:01] <Bashing-om> n1md4: Yours is the 361 version also : http://www.nvidia.com/download/driverResults.aspx/101423/en-us .
[01:01] <Euclid> am I going to have to type nomodeset every time I boot up?
[01:02] <ratrace> serianox: `man zpool` and `man zfs`
[01:02] <Bashing-om> !paste | joeberardis
[01:02] <ratrace> serianox: basically you have to create a zpool out of one or more devices, then create zfs datasets in that pool.
[01:02] <ratrace> it's quite unlike the usual filesystems.
[01:02] <squinty> !paste | joeberardis
[01:03] <joeberardis> Bashing-om: sorry this is my first time using xchat
[01:03] <squinty> Euclid,  you can use nomodset to boot into your desktop and then use addition drivers or troubleshooting to see why it won't boot without using nomodeset
[01:04] <Bashing-om> joeberardis: All a process of learning how to use our tools ... no biggy to do it once . .. You need guidance to use our pastebin site ?
[01:04] <B0g4r7> 16.04 release day huh.
[01:05] <Term1nal> is there still a supported way to do click-to-minimize on the launcher in 16.04?
[01:05] <B0g4r7> I'm running 16.04 beta 2.  Can I expect it to just seamlessly upgrade to the release version?
[01:05]  * squinty thinks "16.04 madhouse day!" :P
[01:05] <Bashing-om> !ltsupgrade | B0g4r7
[01:06] <joeberardis> Bashing-om: http://paste.ubuntu.com/15974902/
[01:06] <Bashing-om> joeberardis: Look'n
[01:06] <B0g4r7> Thx for the note re LTS.
[01:07] <squinty> B0g4r7,  yes, full-upgrade from beta 2 is same as iso install
[01:07] <B0g4r7> I guess that's the normal Ubuntu release cycle then?  LTS rollout 3 months after the initial release?
[01:07] <Bashing-om> joeberardis: OK, 364 is installed ... now show in a pastebin ' cat /etc/default/grub ' .
[01:08] <Euclid> When I boot with nomodeset it just shows a blank ubuntu background, anyone else had this problem?
[01:08] <ratrace> B0g4r7: no, you're already on 16.04, just apt-get upgrade that thing and you're done
[01:08] <IrishSausage> hey
[01:08] <joeberardis> http://paste.ubuntu.com/15974938/
[01:08] <Bashing-om> B0g4r7: Not the one I wanted you to see .. to anser the question. Yes . just the noraml update/upgrade process will give you the current release .
[01:08] <squinty> B0g4r7,  that is the suggested advice upgrading from say 14.04 to 16.04.  in your case you are already using 16.04 which is a different situation
[01:09] <IrishSausage> im currently on unbuntu 6.06
[01:09] <IrishSausage> is 16.04 worth upgrading to
[01:09] <edisto> Anyone stuck in a login loop in 16.04?
[01:09] <torpet> what is my best bet on installing build-essential and dkms without internet connection?
[01:09] <joeberardis> Bashing-om: I reset to quiet splash and did update-grub as sudo
[01:09] <B0g4r7> Aight.  Now downloading 554MB of archives...
[01:10] <Bashing-om> joeberardis: Look'n ... and a reminder .. use my nick .. this is a busy busy channel .. I will miss your responses otherwise .
[01:10] <Xali> torpet: create your own bootable iso usb
[01:10] <squinty> edisto,  probably video driver related, try using nomodeset via the grub boot menu to see if you can access your desktop
[01:10] <torpet> Xali: how?
[01:10] <Xali> torpet: Ubuntu gives the option to make a custome usb. also check out custom usb maker in the software center
[01:11] <Bolt2strike> Anyone else having trouble with a casper-rw partition with a live 16.04 install?
[01:11] <squinty> edisto,  Press the e key on getting the GRUB bootloader. Using arrow keys navigate to and delete quiet and splash and type the word nomodeset in their place. Press Ctrl and X at the same time to continue booting
[01:11] <afb323c> Any recommendations for a linux laptop/ultrabook?
[01:11] <ratrace> Bashing-om: so it's impossible to upgrade from 14.04 to 16.04 with do-release-upgrade atm?
[01:11] <joeberardis> Bashing-om: My B, also, what does Look'n mean?
[01:11] <torpet> Xali: Well I just installed Ubuntu 16.04 and need those 2 packages for my wlan driver. is there no other way?
[01:11] <squinty> joeberardis,  he's looking over the pasted info you posted
[01:11] <edisto> squinty: thanks i'll brb =D
[01:11] <B0g4r7> torpet, install it on an identical system with internets, notice what packages it downloads, copy them out of /var/cache/apt/archives, and dpkg -i them on the machine without internets.
[01:12] <IrishSausage> anyone?????
[01:12] <Bashing-om> ratrace: At the moment IF you want .. got to doit via terminal with the -d switch .
[01:12] <Euclid> When I boot with nomodeset it just shows a blank ubuntu background, anyone else had this problem?
[01:12] <joeberardis> squinty: thanks!
[01:12] <afb323c> Any recommendations for a linux ultrabook?
[01:12] <ratrace> Bashing-om: I did, when 16.04 was in beta and it worked. Was asking about now that 16.04 is released (no longer the meaning behind -d flag).
[01:12] <IrishSausage> hello???
[01:13] <[Saint]> B0g4r7: kinda convoluted when you can almost certainly just get the .deb
[01:13] <Bashing-om> short / American slang for "looking" .. // and the grub file is fine .. what happens now when you reboot the system ?
[01:13] <[Saint]> s/kinda/absolutely/
[01:13] <B0g4r7> [Saint], sure, but this gets all the deps as well.
[01:13] <Bolt2strike> Anyone successfuly made a 16.04 live usb with a casper partition?
[01:13] <joeberardis> Bashing-om: should i enable one of my nvidia drivers then reboot?
[01:13] <Euclid> That's how I installed it.
[01:13] <B0g4r7> There is likely a more elegant solution out there.
[01:13] <Euclid> But I'm still having problems
[01:14] <Bashing-om> ratrace: The -d switch will be in effrct until the .1 release .
[01:14] <[Saint]> B0g4r7: which you could also pick up when you get the aforementioned .deb, as it lists deps and recomends.
[01:14] <ratrace> Bashing-om: I see, thanks.
[01:14] <effectnet> hi how do i get into samba?
[01:14] <Bashing-om> joeberardis: SLI graphics ?
[01:14] <B0g4r7> [Saint], there ya go then.  Elegance++
[01:14] <Xali> effectnet: there is a samba configuration file you can edit with the nano command
[01:14] <joeberardis> Bashing-om: Single card.
[01:15] <joeberardis> Bashing-om: sorry i should say that its an optimus setup
[01:16] <Bashing-om> joeberardis: enable whichever graphics set you want to use when the system re-boots back up .. it is the nvidia-prime tool that controls the graphics sets .
[01:16] <vamadir> ubuntu 16.04 can not connect to wifi
[01:16] <klystron__> will the Aquaris M10 Ubuntu Edition tablet which currently has 15.10 version be upgradable to 16.04?
[01:16] <datajunkie> qq, everytime I check for the 16.04 LTS it doesn't seem to be showing that it's available
[01:17] <effectnet> i dont get it, i have to share this computers d:
[01:17] <datajunkie> is the repo available yet or maybe a CDN caching issue?
[01:17] <joeberardis> Bashing-om:
[01:17] <Madhumper69> sudo nano /etc/samba/smb.conf
[01:17] <effectnet> k
[01:17] <B0g4r7> datajunkie, 16.04.1 LTS release is expected 21-Jul-2016.
[01:17] <joeberardis> Bashing-om: swithcing to 361 and going down for reboot will be back in a few minutes with results.
[01:17] <datajunkie> ah, so I need to upgrade via the ISO for now?
[01:18] <Bashing-om> datajunkie: Ehat release are you updating from .. and what returns ' grep Prompt= /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades ' ?
[01:18] <datajunkie> 14.04
[01:18] <Bashing-om> joeytwiddle: The 364 is what is installed .. and may work just fine .. no harm in trying .
[01:18] <datajunkie> Prompt=normal
[01:19] <Euclid> even when I select try ubuntu without installing it, it just shows the blank ubuntu wallpaper.... anyone have any ideas?
[01:19] <Bashing-om> datajunkie: Ya want that to be " Prompt=lts ' .
[01:19] <Kannibale> I have a strange problem: "upgraded" from fglrx-updates to amdgpu on a R9 285, removed nomodeset from grub, and one of my three monitors, the one connected to the second DVI-connected one, stays black, despite xrandr telling me its connected. can anyone help?
[01:19] <Euclid> When I boot with nomodeset it just shows a blank ubuntu background, anyone else had this problem? There are these weird flashing boxes, they flash really fast so I can't read what they say.
[01:20] <datajunkie> Bashing-om changed
[01:20] <datajunkie> yeah do-release-upgrade -c no new release found
[01:20] <datajunkie> for the LTS Bashing-om
[01:20] <Bashing-om> datajunkie: AND no proprietary graphics driver in use, and you have checked the other source PPAs ?? now ready to re;ease upgrade ?
[01:21] <datajunkie> oh son of a
[01:21] <datajunkie> ok that might be why
[01:21] <datajunkie> is there a way to turn that off via cli?
[01:22] <effectnet> i clicked on the volume in windows and typed in pw, and then i think smbd crashed?
[01:22] <Bashing-om> datajunkie: And when ready /// ' sudo do-release-upgrade -d ' .
[01:22] <Kannibale> *second dvi-port, I mean
[01:24] <klystron__> question: if you have any LTS Ubuntu version 12.04 or 14.04 then would the upgrade path to 16.4 be more easy then trying to upgrade from a non LTS version i.e. 13.04 or 15.04 to the new 16.04 LTS version?
[01:29] <datajunkie> Bashing-om that seems to have worked, it looks like the video driver was blocking it
[01:29] <braderhart> Is there a mailing list where we can submit high priority bugs that will affect most users?
[01:29] <datajunkie> thanks
[01:30] <Bashing-om> klystron__: A fresh clean install will be much nuch easier .
[01:30] <usr13> !bugs | braderhart
[01:31] <Bashing-om> joeberardis: And ?? we good ?
[01:31] <Euclid> what are the hotkeys to access the terminal from the desktop?
[01:31] <usr13> Ctrl-T I think
[01:31] <joeberardis> Bashing-om: http://paste.ubuntu.com/15975101/
[01:31] <braderhart> usr13: Already did that but just surprised that there hasn't been any official response yet given how many users it affects
[01:32] <Bashing-om> joeberardis: look'n .
[01:33] <klystron__> what about the Ubuntu m10 tablet that comes with 15.10 would I be right in assuming that also would need a fresh install for 16.04?
[01:33] <usr13> braderhart: Well, I don't know, but would imagine that you may not be the first or only one to report it, (if it is, in fact, a bug).
[01:34] <Bashing-om> joeberardis: K; do not know yet .. how many Desktops do you have installed ? And what now returns ' dpkg -l | grep -i nvidia ' ?
[01:35] <usr13> braderhart: If it is, in fact, a bug, you are probably only one of a thousand that has reported it and I doubt that everyone will get a personal response.
[01:35] <Bashing-om> klystron__: release upgrade from 15.10 should go seemlessly .. no problem .
[01:35] <Euclid> FML I deleted the propriatary nvidia graphics drivers from windows before installing ubuntu, then overwrote windows, so now I can't see anything im such a loser....
[01:35] <joeberardis> Bashing-om: Only Ubuntu-Gnome desktop, http://paste.ubuntu.com/15975146/
[01:36] <usr13> Euclid: What does deleting propriatary nvidia graphics drivers from windows have to do with a ubuntu install?
[01:36] <braderhart> usr13: I realize that but on a release day when users can't install Chrome or other debs using the default file handler, that it would be a big priority to fix these types of issues.
[01:37] <usr13> braderhart: I'm sure it is.
[01:37] <Bashing-om> joeberardis: ii  nvidia-opencl-icd-361 installed .. let's look at what X log relates post ' pastebinit /var/log/Xorg.0.log ' .
[01:38] <B0g4r7> And 30 minutes later the upgrade is done.
[01:40] <joeberardis> Bashing-om: http://paste.ubuntu.com/15975180/
[01:40] <Euclid> usr13: I can't see any of the bars on the side or top of screen so I'm assuming it has something to do with that
[01:40] <Bashing-om> joeberardis: look'n at your http://paste.ubuntu.com/15975180/ . Will be a while .
[01:41] <Bashing-om> joeberardis: Huh ?? why booting " recovery nomodeset " ... that defeats any proprietary driver .
[01:42] <joeberardis> Bashing-om: I couldnt log into my system without recovery nomodeset.
[01:43] <joeberardis> Bashing-om: should i reboot without recovery, and proprietary driver turned off?
[01:44] <usr13> Euclid: Is your Ubuntu install in a VM with MS Windows as host?
[01:44] <goat{}sex> I DO NOT HAVE ASS-BURGERS SYNDROME!!!
[01:44] <edisto> I can't get into my os either without nodemodeset =\
[01:44] <edisto> tried updating my kernel to 4.5 but still can't get in
[01:44] <Bashing-om> joeberardis: K. let's boot the install to terminal . I want you to reboot to grub boot menu and instead of nomodeset boot with systemd.unit=multi-user.target .
[01:45] <joeberardis> Bashing-om: Where do I set systemd.unit=multi-user.target, not a full fledged power user
[01:47] <Euclid> usr13: no its not
[01:47] <Euclid> I am booting it from scratch and the bar at the top is not there....
[01:48] <B0g4r7> I guess I'm now on the release version.  VERSION="16.04 LTS (Xenial Xerus)"
[01:48] <Euclid> And I'm getting a flashing box that says ubuntu has experienced an error..
[01:49] <Euclid> should I try the acpi=off thing?
[01:49] <B0g4r7> Now maybe I can get the vmware kernel extensions to compile...
[01:49] <[Saint]> He ded.
[01:49] <joeberardis> Bashing-om: is it the exact same spot where quiet splash usually goes?
[01:50] <Bashing-om> joeberardis: Sorry, thought you knew .. at the grub boot menu 'e' key for edit mode -> boot options screen; arrow down to the line starting with linux and across to "quiet splash". remove quiet splash and all after and insert " systemd.unit=multi-user.target "- without the quotes - . key combo ctl+x to continue the boot process to TTY1 . then we see what results when we start the GUI from terminal .
[01:50] <joeberardis> Bashing-om: command to start gui from terminal is?
[01:51] <Bashing-om> joeberardis: ' systemctl isolate graphical.target ' .
[01:53] <joeberardis> Bashing-om: okay ive got it all written down, will be back with results in a few
[01:53] <Euclid> Now I'm just getting a flashing box that says network connections found... but its flashing and I can't click it
[01:53] <obesebatman> Waka paka
[01:54] <effectnet> hmm i cant see my samba share on my windows computer
[01:54] <obesebatman> Hi everyone.... I cant get the resolution of my screen to be 1920 x 1080 in ubuntu
[01:54] <sam_yan> is there anyone interested in offline update ?
[01:54] <citizenruin> should i use gparted to give me a new space for a first time install of arch or use a vm?
[01:54] <Jordan_U> Bashing-om: That does much more than just start the GUI, it also stops everything that is not a dependancy of graphical.target.
[01:55] <obesebatman> It was fine until yesterday
[01:55] <Bashing-om> Jordan_U: I have a LOT to learn .. just starting my adventure in systemd .
[01:55] <citizenruin> systemd
[01:55] <obesebatman> Now there is no option for 1920 x 1080.... Only 1024 x768
[01:56] <angel> hola
[01:56] <Bashing-om> Jordan_U: That do jog my ,emory .. seems we have to start networking (??) .
[01:56] <joeberardis> Bashing-om: Okay, so I did the systemd.unit when i was in grub config, then did systemctl command from earlier...
[01:57] <Bashing-om> joeberardis: Think I failed you to follow through .. what is the present situation ?
[01:59] <Guest98033> buenas noches
[02:01] <joeberardis> Bashing-om: nouveau driver is now in use, not sure what your commands from earlier where supposed to accomplish
[02:02] <braderhart> Can we get some more people to login and confirm this in Launchpad? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-software/+bug/1573206
[02:03] <Gallomimia> is it a security issue to publish one's crypttab with UUID?
[02:04] <Gallomimia> cause mine keeps spitting out an error during update-initramfs and i've checked and rechecked it 20 times now. i've no idea what i'm doing wrong
[02:05] <Jordan_U> Gallomimia: No. UUIDs are not secret.
[02:05] <raspberrypifan> so what is this around ubuntu now doing containers
[02:06] <Bashing-om> joeberardis: what now in the log file ' pastebinit /var/log/Xorg.0.log ' . I had expected you to boot with the Nvidia driver . ( lot's I do not know about systemd) .
[02:07] <Euclid> Has anyone else been able to fix the problem of not seeing status or task bars?
[02:07] <Euclid> and flashing windows?
[02:08] <joeberardis> Bashing-om: http://paste.ubuntu.com/15975397/
[02:08] <Bashing-om> joeberardis: reading .
[02:08] <Gallomimia> Jordan_U: i did a google search for this problem. there's a 9 year old bug regarding parsing of the crypttab file within initramfs-tools. i wonder if it's recurring
[02:10] <joeberardis> Bashing-om: if results are bad, I can try again with nvidia 361 driver
[02:10] <effectnet> where is the ubuntu software center?
[02:11] <Bashing-om> joeberardis: "  48.314] (EE) Failed to load module "nvidia" (module does not exist, 0)" still reading .. you booted up with the Intel .
[02:11] <omgwtf> I have a droplet running on Ubuntu 14.x, upgraded the kernel, now the ethernet interfaces aren't coming up on boot, also if I bring them up manually I have to statically set up the ip addresses
[02:11] <omgwtf> I basically fucked something up
[02:11] <omgwtf> :/
[02:11] <joeberardis> Bashing-om: nvidia-prime does not give option to switch from intel to nvidia or visa versa
[02:11] <Gallomimia> http://paste.ubuntu.com/15975415 can anyone see what could cause an error in this crypttab?
[02:13] <Loshki> effectnet: /usr/bin/software-center
[02:15] <effectnet> k thx
[02:17] <Bashing-om> joeberardis: Did you add the PPA to install the 364 version driver ? Your card calls for the 361 version, and it is available in 16.04's repo. How about we remove the PPA and install from our repo ?
[02:18] <Sachiru> Query: Running Ubuntu server 14.04, running "sudo do-release-upgrade" does not upgrade to 16.04, just telling me "no new release found"
[02:18] <Sachiru> What gives?
[02:18] <joeberardis> Bashing-om: will remove 364 ppa, then will install nvidia-361 from ubuntu ppa, will let you know when finished
[02:18] <torpet> if i plan on gaming on my installation, should i add the graphics-drivers ppa?
[02:18] <Gallomimia> what version torpet?
[02:19] <torpet> 364
[02:19] <torpet> oh, 16.04
[02:19] <Gallomimia> of ubuntu
[02:19] <Bashing-om> joeberardis: You are comfortable doing so ? Need to insire that the Nvidia driver(s) are fully purged .
[02:19] <Gallomimia> i'm hearing that version has the drivers in normal repos
[02:20] <Bashing-om> Sachiru: ' sudo do-release-upgrade -d ' .. the d is required .
[02:20] <Pedro72> Hey, I'm trying to restrict user's access to the internet for weekdays, can anyone help me?
[02:20] <joeberardis> Bashing-om: removed the graphicsdrivers ppa, not sure on how to perform "full" purge of nvidia
[02:20] <Sachiru> Ah, thanks.
[02:21] <Pedro72> They said me to use Cron and "sudo iptables -A OUTPUT -m owner --uid-owner user_you_want_to_block -j REJECT", but I'm new
[02:21] <Sachiru> Wait, isn't Ubuntu 16.04 stable?
[02:21] <Sachiru> And no longer in development?
[02:21] <Gallomimia> yes released today
[02:21] <Bashing-om> joeberardis:
[02:22] <Bashing-om> joeberardis: ' sudo apt remove nvidia-* ' should do that trick .
[02:22] <torpet> Gallomimia: 361 is the latest in ubuntu 16.04
[02:22] <Sachiru> Ah, found the answer: http://askubuntu.com/questions/125392/why-is-no-new-release-found-when-upgrading-from-a-lts-to-the-next
[02:23] <Bashing-om> Sachiru: still considered development till the .1 release .
[02:23] <Sachiru> "sudo do-release-upgrade" won't show upgrades until 16.04.1
[02:23] <joeberardis> Bashing-om: "zsh: no matches found: nvidia-*
[02:23] <joeberardis> "
[02:23] <batee> Hi did anyone try to install Oracle Virtualbox on 16.04 desktop 64bit edition? I was getting an error
[02:24] <guest-cxEZCG> hi, I could really use some help, I think my user profile is corrupted, I can no longer login to my user account, only guest
[02:24] <guest-cxEZCG> not sure what to do
[02:24] <Bashing-om> joeberardis: ' sudo ubuntu-drivers autoinstall ' we see if the sytem picks the 361 version to install .
[02:25] <raul1> hola
[02:25] <terratoma> Unity sure looks the same !
[02:26] <Bashing-om> guest-cxEZCG: what returns ' la -al .Xauthority ; ls -al .ICEauthority ' ? Maybe root only can access your desktop ?
[02:26] <joeberardis> Bashing-om: http://paste.ubuntu.com/15975503/
[02:26] <joeberardis> Bashing-om: did'nt do anything...
[02:26] <guest-cxEZCG> wait, if i do that in my guest account will it address the problem in my real user account
[02:27] <Bashing-om> joeberardis: Oh .. a no response is just the system doing as told .. no sas, no back talk .. reboot and let's see the effect .
[02:28] <guest-cxEZCG> it gives this: "unable to change to root gid: Operation not permitted"
[02:28] <joeberardis> Bashing-om: haha didnt mean to backtalk, should i select an nvidia driver from the additional drivers page before rebooting?
[02:28] <Bashing-om> guest-cxEZCG: correct .. reboot to the login screen . key combo ctl+alt+F1 to gain a console .
[02:29] <guest-cxEZCG> ok, but then I will lose this chat
[02:29] <ubuntu898> if I'm going to install ubuntu, do I want to first set up a partition, or let ubuntu make it from empty space?
[02:30] <[Saint]> ubuntu898: do you intend to dual-boot windows?
[02:30] <liuyuhong> hi
[02:30] <[Saint]> if not, just let the installer wipe the disk and do its thing.
[02:30] <ubuntu898> I do intend to dual boot, ubuntu and windows. Yes
[02:30] <Bashing-om> joe .. no the driver should now be installed .. just a reboot to make it effective .. if all goes well now later you can change to the Nvidia driver .
[02:30] <liuyuhong> how to install sdk for mate?
[02:31] <joeberardis> Bashing-om: will sudo reboot now. Be back soon
[02:31] <ubuntu898> I was just trying to get it to install, but it was being a butt. enetbootin kept getting in the way. Because it was live booted off of enetbootin, it counted as having a cd mounted and kept freezing/crashing the install. I'm not sure if changing the partitions might help in any way
[02:32] <effectnet> my win7 puter can't see the samba share, hmmmm
[02:33] <ubuntu898> I'd use a live cd/usb, but my computer hates live USBs and won't do it, and I don't actually have any CDs to burn. So I'm stuck trying to figure out a weird workaround
[02:33] <guest-cxEZCG> Bashing-om, there is also the problem that when I do alt crt F1 to get to the terminal, it is just spitting out the letter  p continuously
[02:34] <torpet> really happy with 16.04 so far, but mouse acceleration is atrocious
[02:34] <squinty> ubuntu898,  it needs a dvd not cd    cd is too small
[02:35] <ubuntu898> To rephrase, I have no empty disks.
[02:35] <guest-cxEZCG> could really use some help here
[02:35] <liuyuhong> where is the dvd, I can't find it?
[02:35] <[Saint]> ubuntu898: what do you mean by "hates liveCDs"?
[02:36] <liuyuhong> no , I want only find it?
[02:36] <riv> Archlinux FTW !
[02:36] <ubuntu898> I said liveusbs. It won't let me boot. I tell it to boot and it's like "What's that? No idea. back to the HDD"
[02:36] <[Saint]> I've found a number of times I need to massage Ubuntu live images into cooperating, by running 'live' when it (seemingly) pauses with no obvious way of progressing forwards.
[02:37] <[Saint]> also - sorry, yes, autocomplete replaced liveUSB with LiveCD here.
[02:37] <[Saint]> sorry.
[02:37] <duckgoose> nope never
[02:37] <Bashing-om> guest-cxEZCG: Ouch ! .. can you boot a recovery kernel ?
[02:37] <ubuntu898> basically, my computer doens't support live usbs
[02:37] <guest-cxEZCG> how
[02:37] <liuyuhong> I see
[02:38] <[Saint]> ubuntu898: it either supports booting from USB or it doesn't, there's nothing more to it.
[02:38] <[Saint]> Are you saying it doesn't boot over USB?
[02:38] <Bashing-om> !recovery
[02:38] <Bashing-om> guest-cxEZCG: ^^ .
[02:39] <ubuntu898> And it doesn't. So I tried to use enetbootin and it makes something similar to a liveusb/cd, but then because it has something from my disk mounted, it won't actually install
[02:39] <ubuntu898> It's basically reading my C drive as a cd drive, and because it's mounted as a cd drive, it can't write the os to it.
[02:39] <[Saint]> you mean unetbootin?
[02:40] <ubuntu898> Yeah, unebootin
[02:40] <Kannibale> batee, I just upgraded virtualbox, install the extension pack (from the virtualbox site https://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Downloads ) and it worked fine. which error do you get?
[02:40] <[Saint]> Why are you...? Wait, what?
[02:40] <[Saint]> I thought you just said you couldn;t boot from USB?
[02:40] <liuyuhong> you can make boot use "dd commod"
[02:40] <Euclid> I'm gonna see if I can get 15.04 to work and just update it from there..... lol
[02:41] <ubuntu898> It can't. I set it up and told it to use the other option, to boot from the HD, not the usb in the program
[02:41] <Euclid> I got it to boot from USBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBB
[02:41] <squinty> ubuntu898,  unetbootin should just work fine   I did two installs with it today   xubuntu and ubuntu
[02:42] <ubuntu898> sqinty: then I must be doing something wrong.
[02:42] <[Saint]> I think there's some language issue here. I think you're conflating "MY PC can't boot from USB" with "booting from USB appears at this moment non-functional"
[02:43] <ubuntu898> I don't "think" so. It's like this http://i.stack.imgur.com/rid01.png
[02:43] <ubuntu898> http://i.stack.imgur.com/ZlfAy.png
[02:43] <Nicholas2> could someone please suggest a good cpu temp monitoring tool?
[02:44] <ubuntu898> That's how I set it up, and so it doesn't actually boot from the usb, it boots from the HD as though it were a usb.
[02:44] <squinty> ubuntu898,  you need to click on the triangle to set it to your usb stick
[02:44] <squinty> ubuntu898, Drive -> triangle -> select your stick
[02:45] <[Saint]> FWIW some unetbootin versions just flat out won't let you install to USB.
[02:45] <squinty> ubuntu898,  you also need to have that stick mounted before bringing up unetbootin
[02:45] <[Saint]> Need to hunt down a slightly older verion.
[02:45] <ubuntu898> You mean to scroll down from harddrive to usb? That's literally the first thing I tried. But then when I plugged it in and booted, I jammed f12, told it to boot from USB cd, USB HD, and bootable addin cards.
[02:45] <ubuntu898> all of which just went right back into booting windows
[02:46] <liuyuhong> you can use "dd"
[02:46] <liuyuhong> the form dd if=ubuntu mate of=/dev/sd...
[02:46] <liuyuhong> try it
[02:46] <[Saint]> unetbootin-494 is the one I use when I can't avoid it.
[02:46] <squinty> && sync
[02:47] <ubuntu898> I used 613
[02:47] <liuyuhong> you also can use universal-usb-installer in windows
[02:48] <ubuntu898> I guess I'll try that. I just wish ubuntu were less of a pain in the back end to install. :C
[02:48] <[Saint]> Its fine, when the hardware isn't plotting against you.
[02:49] <[Saint]> Or when you actually have $.20 worthof writeable optical disk lying around
[02:49] <squinty> ubuntu898,  613 is what I used today to install ubuntu and xubuntu   worked without any problems
[02:49] <[Saint]> though, frankly, optical media needs to die.
[02:50] <ubuntu898> optical media is great for a long shelf life.
[02:50] <[Saint]> Nope.
[02:50] <[Saint]> Optical media degrads horribly.
[02:50] <[Saint]> *degrades.
[02:50] <joeberardis> Bashing-om: so i was unable to get into a gui for the last 10 minutes, was able to get error message from systemctl isolate graphical.target tho, also had to purge nvidia-361 in recovery to return to gui environment
[02:50] <Nicholas2> my lm sensors is reporting wrong cpu temp
[02:50] <Nicholas2> please help
[02:50] <omgwtf> I somehow fucked up a kernel upgrade
[02:50] <ubuntu898> Maybe the video I saw was wrong. >.<
[02:50] <omgwtf> no snapshot available
[02:50] <[Saint]> CDs I bought in my childhood are now end-of-life and near useless.
[02:50] <omgwtf> :(
[02:50] <Nicholas2> is there any other cpu temp tool?
[02:50] <squinty> omgwtf, family channel
[02:51] <Nicholas2> anyone listening?
[02:51] <[Saint]> ubuntu898: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disc_rot
[02:51] <omgwtf> squinty, sorry..I guess
[02:51] <squinty> !language
[02:51] <ubuntu898> Then the video I saw was wrong/outdated
[02:51] <[Saint]> the former.
[02:51] <omgwtf> so I can't swear?
[02:51] <omgwtf> ..that sucks
[02:51] <squinty> no
[02:51] <Bashing-om> joeberardis: Something stinks .. maybe this is above my skill level .
[02:52] <omgwtf> I usually swear in real life
[02:52] <Nicholas2> squinty is there any good cpu temp monitoring tool?
[02:52] <edisto> how is it I can run ubuntu on both monitors from install cd... but I can't past the login screen when it's installed?
[02:52] <squinty> omgwtf,  time for a little maturity then right
[02:52] <Nicholas2> mine is reporting wrong temps squinty
[02:52] <joeberardis> Bashing-om: going to give you the error on paste bin if your still interested...
[02:52] <omgwtf> squinty, I am mature..nothing to do with swearing here and there
[02:53] <squinty> Nicholas2,  afaik, lm sensors is recommended. don't really know anything about it though
[02:53] <Bashing-om> joeberardis: I continue with high interest .
[02:54] <Nicholas2> squinty i have checked the temps in bios . there is atleast a difference of  20 c. u know the bios reading are most reliable
[02:54] <Nicholas2> in bios temps are like 40 c and in lmsensors they are +60c
[02:55] <squinty> omgwtf, I agree but there are applicable situations where one respects others who may not. a family channel is one such place.  always a good idea to check topic and restrictions before entering any channel
[02:55] <Gallomimia> Nicholas2: is it possible that your system is actually working hard while booted and not at all while in bios?
[02:55] <omgwtf> Right Right..
[02:56] <omgwtf> Now I need to reconfigure my vps..lesson learned the hard way
[02:56] <Nicholas2> Gallomimia no i have checked the temps in windows 7 too. they are under 40c just after the boot. both bios and windows 7 are reporting same temp
[02:56] <joeberardis> Bashing-om: http://paste.ubuntu.com/15975707/
[02:57] <Nicholas2> only ubuntu is showing + 60c  temps
[02:57] <Bashing-om> joeberardis: look'n .
[02:57] <Gallomimia> hm. that's pretty odd Nicholas2. i use lm sensors also. seems accurate to me
[02:57] <Nicholas2> i have ran prime 95 for almost 2 hours and temps didn't cross 65 c at 100% load Gallomimia
[02:57] <Gallomimia> yeah something's goobered
[02:57] <Nicholas2> Gallomimia btw what temps do u get at idle ?
[02:57] <Gallomimia> there's a way to reconfigure the sensors
[02:57] <Gallomimia> 40s
[02:58] <Nicholas2> hmm
[02:58] <Gallomimia> depends where the machine is. on the floor in the basement, it can be below 20
[02:58] <Nicholas2> on windows 7 mine is 45 c on idle and on ubuntu its 62 c LOL
[02:58] <Gallomimia> takes a lot of serious workload to make it cross 65
[02:58] <Nicholas2> exactly
[02:58] <Gallomimia> yep. maybe it's config'd badly. there's a script to make it detect them all
[02:58] <Nicholas2> i am sure its reading wrong info
[02:59] <Gallomimia> find man page for it. i think you can readjust it
[02:59] <Nicholas2> even prime 95 can't make it reach above 65c after running it more than 2 hours
[03:00] <edisto> welp guess i won't be using ubuntu for a while
[03:00] <Gallomimia> yeah. having same thing edisto. my system won't boot
[03:00] <Gallomimia> can't make it build the bloody initramfs with crypt
[03:00] <edisto> yeah it's only been a day and there are no solutions posted anywhere
[03:01] <Gallomimia> the last time i installed a ubuntu version on release day, i was also muckered. not doing it again
[03:01] <Bashing-om> joeberardis: I do not know much about systemctl ( systemd) .. but I do know that ypur system is hybrid graphics, and as such a proper Nvidia driver must be installed and as well come menas to control the 2 graphic sets .
[03:02] <Nicholas2> got disconnected
[03:03] <Gallomimia> Nicholas2: nothing was said on your issue
[03:03] <azizLIGHT> if i have a ppa, how do i use a different branch of it
[03:03] <Nicholas2> i got disconnected
[03:03]  * squinty got "disconnected" back in the '70's
[03:03] <joeberardis> Bashing-om: But whenever I use the nvidia drivers I cant even get to a log in screen. Other users were also having issues with 361 drivers correct?
[03:04] <Bashing-om> joeberardis: All my experience with 361 is positive . Many times over 352 .
[03:05] <joeberardis> Bashing-om: I was not having these issues yesterday with the 352 drivers on 15.10... would it possibly have something to do with the new Kernel in 16.04?
[03:06] <Nicholas2> wow again
[03:06] <Nicholas2> anything wrong with #ubuntu today?
[03:06] <Bashing-om> joeberardis: If you release upgraded.... then the older kernels are still on the system . see what results when booting the 15.10 kernel .
[03:07] <joeberardis> Bashing-om: this is a fresh install...
[03:07] <ubuntu898> So then, just to be sure... do I want to boot a live usb as a usb cd, or a usb hd?
[03:07] <squinty> ubuntu898,  the latter
[03:07] <ubuntu898> that's what I thought. Thanks
[03:08] <ubuntu898> I just tried the universal usb installer, so I guess I'll run it and hope for the best
[03:08] <Bashing-om> joeberardis: Ouch ! Not a good intro to 16.04 . I am think'n for some way to move this forward ..
[03:08] <Gallomimia> #update-initramfs -cvk 3.13.0-85-generic > initrd.log  == cryptsetup: WARNING: invalid line in /etc/crypttab for hydra -
[03:08] <Gallomimia> WHY does it keep tellng me this?
[03:08] <Gallomimia> the line is so valid.
[03:09] <joeberardis> Bashing-om: i really appreciate your time and patience
[03:09] <squinty> ubuntu898,  you could also check out  pendrivelinux.com for tutorials and alternate usb programs
[03:09] <Gallomimia> i can't generate my initrd and get it to boot because of this. can anyone make suggestions?
[03:10] <Bashing-om> joeberardis: What does the system see ? what returns ' sudo lshw -C display ' ?
[03:12] <joeberardis> Bashing-om: results -> http://paste.ubuntu.com/15975821/
[03:14] <ubuntu529> That's weird... my computer now says it already has ubuntu on it... but that doesn't seem right.... or at least the installer says it's there...
[03:14] <Bashing-om> joeberardis: That do say that you are booting with the Nvidia card and that the proprietary driver is loaded . What does X now say " pastebinit /var/log/Xorg.0.log " ?
[03:15] <joeberardis> Bashing-om: http://paste.ubuntu.com/15975835/
[03:15] <Bashing-om> joeberardis: reading .
[03:17] <ubuntu529> What file system do I want for ubuntu? Normally I'd say ntfs, but that doesn't seem to work
[03:18] <squinty> ext4 is standard these days
[03:19] <Bashing-om> joeberardis: " 77.854] (EE) Failed to load module "nvidia" (module does not exist, 0) " Are you trying to install the driver in recovery ? such that the file system is read only ??
[03:19] <ubuntu529> well, it looks like my installation just crashed again
[03:20] <ubuntu529> it says my mount point /cdrom couldn't be unmounted. then the go back/continue buttons froze up
[03:23] <Bashing-om> joeberardis: Another thought ! " [    77.860] (EE) Screen 0 deleted because of no matching config section. " I can bet if we look at the config file .. it is for Intel rather than Nvidia . ' cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf  ' .
[03:24] <joeberardis> Bashing-om: sorry was afk
[03:24] <joeberardis> Bashing-om: which would you like to try first
[03:25] <Bashing-om> joeberardis:    lets look at the xorg.conf file .
[03:26] <joeberardis> Bashing-om: I have 2 xorg.conf files
[03:26] <joeberardis> xorg.conf.04212016
[03:26] <joeberardis> or xorg.conf.failsafe
[03:28] <bynarie> does anyone know what the default system font for xubuntu was in 15.10? i just upgraded to 16.04 and it looks like crap
[03:29] <joeberardis> Bashing-om: sending .04212016 http://paste.ubuntu.com/15975901/
[03:30] <noob-1225> The default font is "DejaVu Sans Mono Book 9" fot the terminals
[03:30] <bstrie> hi, I'm trying to set up a dual boot windows/16.04 via a live usb, but neither the ubuntu installer nor gparted can find my actual hard drive. all they see is the usb stick
[03:30] <bstrie> any ideas?
[03:32] <lotuspsychje> bstrie: sounds like uefi settings not good
[03:32] <Guy1524> Hey guys, I have ubuntu gnome 16.04, how do I test out wayland?
[03:32] <lotuspsychje> !uefi | bstrie
[03:33] <bstrie> lotuspsychje: thanks! I suspected uefi was somehow involved, but I'm a dinosaur who still thinks in terms of bios :P
[03:33] <Guy1524> nvm
[03:33] <Guy1524> think I found it
[03:37] <Bashing-om> joeberardis: I lost that bet ... however " Section "Device" >> Identifier "intel" >> Driver "modesetting" " . Driver "modesetting"  bothers me . You up to purging again, rm the config file. and install the 361 driver again from our repo ?
[03:37] <mattfly> hm
[03:37] <mattfly> hello
[03:37] <mattfly> does anyone knows about alsamixer plugins?
[03:37] <mattfly> s/knows/know
[03:38] <joeberardis> Bashing-om: Should I get out of recovery mode?
[03:38] <kernel_mutex> hi
[03:39] <kernel_mutex> am I speaking to the channel and you guys hear me ?
[03:39] <joeberardis> i hear you kernel
[03:39] <noob-1225> i hear u also
[03:39] <Bashing-om> well .. we can remount the file system ' mount -o remount,rw /  ' and carry on . Your call .
[03:39] <vfw> mattfly: http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-doc/alsa-lib/pcm_plugins.html
[03:40] <joeberardis> Bashing-om, lets continue
[03:41] <joeberardis> I remounted
[03:44] <linuxgecko> is there a way to install 32-bit versions of all the software i have installed on my ubuntu box?
[03:45] <Bashing-om> joeberardis: remount as above and run ' sudo apt remove nvidia-* ; sudo rm /etc/X11/xorg.conf ; sudo apt install nvidia-361 ; sudo nvidia-xconfig ' . Reboot and let's see what is now .
[03:45] <Bashing-om> joeberardis: we are root .. sudo not needed here !
[03:47] <mick> hey there, i'm having trouble with gdm on xenial
[03:47] <Bashing-om> joeberardis: Another thought .. nvidia-prime should install when the driver installs .... but let's check before rebooting ' dpkg -l nvidia-prime ' .
[03:48] <Guest9843> when I do `systemctl start gdm3', the screen just flashes
[03:48] <Guest9843> at boot, nothing happens except that the systemd process fails
[03:48] <Guest9843> for gdm.service
[03:49] <linuxgecko> i'm quite surpirised that noone responded.
[03:49] <Guest9843> `sudo xinit' gets x running, but none of the display managers work
[03:49] <Guest9843> well, okay that's not true, lightdm and gdm can't get x to start, but slim and xdm get x to start and then I can't log in
[03:51] <joeberardis> Bashing-om: if there is an, "ii  nvidia-prime   0.8.2        amd64" does that mean it installed?
[03:52] <Bashing-om> joeberardis: Yepper /// the 'ii' is desired (i)installed and the end 'i' os the actual state (i)installed . so yeah !
[03:52] <Guest5846> i want to mount /dev/sda2 and /dev/sda5 . how do i do that?
[03:53] <linuxgecko> what's the name of the source package for my running kernel?
[03:53] <joeberardis> Bashing-om: groovy, so anything we need to check before the reboot
[03:54] <Bashing-om> joeberardis: I wish I were sure .. but all I know at this point is to reboot and see if we come up on the GUI .
[03:54] <joeberardis> alright ill let you know how it goes
[03:55] <\9> linuxgecko: apt-get source linux-image-$(uname -r)
[03:55] <\9> linuxgecko: should get it for you
[04:00] <Guest6825> пт
[04:01] <joeberardis> Bashing-om: Same exact issue
[04:02] <Bashing-om> joeberardis: .. And must boot 'nomodeset ' ? and that is what is now ?
[04:02] <joeberardis> I had to boot nomodeset?
[04:03] <Bashing-om> joeberardis: Yeah ... the log file will tell a tale IF KMS has not been defeated .
[04:03] <guest-KFHqAp> someone please help, I can no longer log in to my user account through the graphical login manager, it just loops back to the login manager after it crashes
[04:03] <Bray90820> Was mythbuntu updated along with ubuntu?
[04:03] <guest-KFHqAp> ive been searching for a fix for hours now
[04:04] <joeberardis> Bashing-om: I'm a bit confused sorry, are you saying that I am currently in nomodeset or that I should have pressesed 'e' when i was in grub and changed 'quiet splash' to 'nomodeset'
[04:05] <guest-KFHqAp> when i login through a command line, my cursor has become an 'x' and there is very limited functionality
[04:05] <Bashing-om> guest-KFHqAp: 2 things .. 1) authorization to accesss your desktop . 2) no display driver for the display .
[04:05] <guest-KFHqAp> why all of a sudden are the authroizations different?
[04:06] <guest-KFHqAp> my password gets me past the login screen, what do you mean the authoriztaion to access my desktop?
[04:06] <guest-KFHqAp> in any event, what am i to do?
[04:06] <Bashing-om> joeberardis: Sorry .. tired been at this for hours .. need to know if you booted with the "nomodeset" parameter . If so the log file is of little use to us .
[04:07] <joeberardis> I did not boot with nomodeset parameter, if I try that now will it be of use still?
[04:08] <Bashing-om> guest-KFHqAp: Many things can have an effect on authorization . But as you can get past the login screen . Naybe looking at a broken proprietary graphic's driver.
[04:09] <guest-KFHqAp> well i got past it through the guest login
[04:09] <guest-KFHqAp> what can I do to fix this
[04:09] <soupnanodesukar> If I download the ubuntu cd/dvd through bittorrent, is there a way to get do-release-upgrade to look at the disc as well instead of spending 4hrs downloading every package?
[04:10] <soupnanodesukar> I mean, it would be nice I guess.
[04:10] <Mishari> مرحبا !
[04:11] <Mishari> Hello beauties
[04:11] <Mishari> ;x
[04:11] <Bashing-om> guest-KFHqAp: the guest login is not "you" . A problem with "your" config in "your" account ???
[04:11] <guest-KFHqAp> ok but what do i do to fix that?
[04:11] <guest-KFHqAp> or even find out if thats the problem?
[04:12] <[Saint]> Nothing in the guest account, that's certain.
[04:12] <Mishari> guys can I have your opinion about studying Bash or Python ?
[04:12] <Mishari> I don't waste much time, I want to choose only one.
[04:12] <guest-KFHqAp> id like to make one positive step in trying to fix this before I go to sleep, been at this for 4 hours
[04:12] <Bashing-om> joeberardis: You can boot to terminal .. so we know the issue is in the GUI layer . As to what else we can do to isolate .. presently I am stumped .
[04:14] <guest-KFHqAp> ok Saint, then what?
[04:14] <Bashing-om> guest-KFHqAp: Can you boot to console - ctl+alt+F1 - at the login screen ?
[04:14] <guest-KFHqAp> yes
[04:14] <guest-KFHqAp> i can even startx through that
[04:15] <guest-KFHqAp> but the environment is choppy and very slow and not fleshed out
[04:15] <hzllx> anyone else having trouble installing kodi in 16.04
[04:15] <Bashing-om> guest-KFHqAp: Question ! have you done " sudo startx " at any  time ???
[04:15] <hzllx> or just me
[04:15] <guest-KFHqAp> yes, i just said that
[04:16] <hzllx> i just joined
[04:16] <hzllx> missed the convo
[04:16] <Bashing-om> guest-KFHqAp: then "root" owns your /home .
[04:16] <guest-KFHqAp> wait no not sudo startx
[04:16] <guest-KFHqAp> just startx
[04:17] <guest-KFHqAp> but i loged into my user name and did
[04:17] <guest-KFHqAp> sudo chown -R 777 /home/myusername
[04:17] <hzllx> aanyone tried installing kodi in ubuntu 16.04?
[04:18] <guest-KFHqAp> er sudo chmod
[04:18] <Bashing-om> guest-KFHqAp: K; then let's look and see what X is doing .. in a pastebin show us ' pastebinit /var/log/Xorg.0.log ' .
[04:18] <guest-KFHqAp> i would have to l?og out to do that right
[04:19] <guest-KFHqAp> im in the guest
[04:19] <guest-KFHqAp> account
[04:19] <Bashing-om> guest-KFHqAp: Ouch ! there are some files in /home that should belong to root . ouch .
[04:20] <Bashing-om> joeytwiddle: I just do not know where else to look and do .
[04:20] <guest-KFHqAp> ok well can i just reinstall everythign?
[04:20] <guest-KFHqAp> im sick of this lol
[04:21] <guest-KFHqAp> im so fracking tired right now, just want access to my files
[04:23] <guest-KFHqAp> how do I pastebin from the command line
[04:23] <ChibaPet> Sigh. https://bpaste.net/show/f5da5f5a7aa3 in 16.04, trying to watch a DVD.
[04:24] <guest-KFHqAp> hello?
[04:26] <Bashing-om> guest-KFHqAp: If it is pressing to gain access to your files .. one can mount the file system from a live environment.
[04:26] <Bashing-om> !paste
[04:26] <guest-KFHqAp> yeah but dude
[04:26] <guest-KFHqAp> I am in my guest account
[04:26] <[Saint]> So what?
[04:27] <guest-KFHqAp> the only environment i can access my user account is the coemmand lin
[04:27] <guest-KFHqAp> right?
[04:27] <[Saint]> That literally has zero relevance.
[04:27] <guest-KFHqAp> so i can go into a command line here and get the info i need
[04:27] <guest-KFHqAp> ?
[04:27] <[Saint]> If you need access to them so badly, gain access through a live session.
[04:28] <guest-KFHqAp> why are you sidestepping my question?
[04:28] <ubuntu148> I can't figure out how to unmount "/cdrom" which I'm told it being in use won't let me install the OS.
[04:28] <[Saint]> why do you keep sidestepping the perfectly valid method of retrieving your files that's been stated several time snow?
[04:28] <guest-KFHqAp> jesus
[04:29] <Bashing-om> guest-KFHqAp: try thos from the guest account 'cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | nc termbin.com 9999 ' . the result is a URL . Pass that link back here .
[04:29] <guest-KFHqAp> ok
[04:29] <[Saint]> you've said you "just want access to your files"
[04:29] <guest-KFHqAp> no
[04:29] <[Saint]> boot a live session, go in, and get 'em.
[04:29] <[Saint]> No one's stopping you.
[04:30] <guest-KFHqAp> i dont even know what that is
[04:30] <[Saint]> Well...you did say that.
[04:30] <guest-KFHqAp> yeah after a lot of other things
[04:30] <guest-KFHqAp> after getting no answer to a lot of other things
[04:30] <[Saint]> Diddums.
[04:30] <guest-KFHqAp> and then you provide that answer with no explanation
[04:30] <guest-KFHqAp> what Saint
[04:30] <guest-KFHqAp> piss off
[04:31] <guest-KFHqAp> http://termbin.com/5svs
[04:32] <Bashing-om> guest-KFHqAp: Reading .. I will be awile .
[04:32] <guest-KFHqAp> ty
[04:33] <ubuntu148> What exactly is "device for boot loader"?
[04:36] <Bashing-om> guest-KFHqAp: Intel graphics, And I see no fault . What desktop are you running ?
[04:36] <guest-KFHqAp> its a dell inspiron laptop
[04:37] <guest-KFHqAp> using an hdmi cable hooked up to a tv
[04:37] <Bashing-om> !info linux-image-generic wily
[04:37] <guest-KFHqAp> screen is broken
[04:38] <ubuntu148> for "Device for boot loader installation" do I want to put that as my windows 10 boot loader for the split?
[04:39] <Bashing-om> guest-KFHqAp: !5.10 .. and is thos ubuntu with unity as the desktop environment ?
[04:39] <guest-KFHqAp> its actually xfce
[04:39] <guest-KFHqAp> i think thats what it's called
[04:40] <Bashing-om> guest-KFHqAp: Great .. then 'startx' is valid to start that GUI .
[04:41] <guest-KFHqAp> yeah, but why did the login manager login fail?
[04:41] <guest-KFHqAp> it just crashes and loops back to the login manager
[04:41] <ash_workz> I know this sounds like a stretch but is there an application that would help formulate a feature request by requesting various things such as objective, concept, workflow, etc; (and later help outline/modify/realize these concepts as additional concerns become known) which could save that in some format parsable by another program to derive some basic documentation?
[04:42] <ash_workz> that's not really an ubuntu question, but maybe someone can help me find the right channel or help me better understand/formulate my needs so I can sort of come up with the right question?
[04:43] <guest-KFHqAp> because when I do startx, it loads the gui, ut its much different, much worse, that the gui that loads through the login manager
[04:43] <lotuspsychje> ash_workz: tell us what topic its about first?
[04:44] <cdidd> Anybody knows how to decrypt several partitions in initramfs, preferably with a single passphrase?
[04:45] <michagogo> AIUI upgrades from Trusty aren't offered for a few more months. Is that only the automatic *prompt*, or is it the very possibility of an upgrade?
[04:45] <cdidd> I can't find any ready-made solutions on the internet about decryption of more than one partitions in initramfs.
[04:45] <nzw1> I'm loving ubuntu 16.04
[04:46] <poee> what is the best program to recover deleted data in kubuntu
[04:46] <poee> ?
[04:46] <lotuspsychje> poee: photorec
[04:46] <michagogo> Meaning, right now, could I ask it to upgrade me from Trusty to Xenial?
[04:46] <guest-KFHqAp> Bashing-om?
[04:46] <lotuspsychje> !info testdisk | poee
[04:46] <michagogo> Or is that not even possible until .1?
[04:46] <lotuspsychje> michagogo: yes its possible, but not recommended for the LTS way
[04:46] <poee> photorec is a part of testdisk?
[04:46] <Bashing-om> guest-KFHqAp: Well, we can consider resetting the desktop to defaults . You will loose all your changes .
[04:47] <lotuspsychje> poee: correct
[04:47] <poee> thanks lotuspsychje
[04:47] <guest-KFHqAp> what changes?
[04:47] <Xali> I'm having trouble installing java. I use the make command to compile and install, but it does not work like the README said
[04:47] <lotuspsychje> poee: sudo photorec after, and scan your whole hd :p
[04:47] <guest-KFHqAp> i dont care about the features, just the data
[04:47] <poee> got it
[04:47] <guest-KFHqAp> how do i do that?
[04:48] <michagogo> poee: but if you've deleted data, immediately disconnect the disk
[04:48] <michagogo> Or remount ro or somethjng
[04:48] <poee> shut down kubutnu?
[04:48] <poee> i dont have multiple disks
[04:48] <michagogo> lotuspsychje: is it recommended against? If so, why? Or is it just that it's not yet being pushed out?
[04:49] <michagogo> poee: so get another disk and do the recovery into three
[04:49] <michagogo> Onto theee
[04:49] <michagogo> There
[04:49] <poee> ok. i ll shut down the disk then
[04:49] <poee> thanks
[04:49] <lotuspsychje> michagogo: 16.04.1 will have sorted the first bugs out, hence the more 'safer' way
[04:49] <acetakwas> Hello
[04:49] <lotuspsychje> michagogo: but hey, its your machine, do it your way if you like
[04:49] <styles> I just upgraded to 16.04 and Displays isn't showing any other monitors except one (I have 3)
[04:49] <michagogo> If there's deleted data, every write that happens risks overwriting what you're trying to recover
[04:49] <Mishari> hacking discussion is allowed here ?
[04:50] <lotuspsychje> Mishari: no
[04:50] <Mishari> shokran
[04:50] <michagogo> lotuspsychje: is there anything special, anything that happens at the moment of the point release?
[04:50] <dodobrain> hi all
[04:51] <dodobrain> how do i use the fastest local mirror when using update-manager to upgrade to 16.04 ?
[04:51] <michagogo> Or is it incremental updates over 3 months, and then at one point an arbitrary snapshot is tagged?
[04:51] <lotuspsychje> michagogo: well yes, like i said the most nasty bugs will be taken out
[04:51] <dodobrain> i tried simply runnig update-manager and it seems to be pulling packages from archive.ubuntu.com and thats being hammered obviously
[04:51] <michagogo> lotuspsychje: you misunderstand, I think
[04:51] <dodobrain> and my local mirror seems to be up to date with the latest packages!
[04:52] <acetakwas> I used to use pm-hibernate on my computer (and it worked for a couple of hibernates, say 3-4 times). However, ever since I tampered with SWAP (recreated it), it hasn't worked. It goes off as if it's hibernated, but starts afresh when I turn on the computer.
[04:52] <acetakwas> SWAP was 4GB (before and after recreation).
[04:52] <lotuspsychje> michagogo: lets reverse it, why are you affraid to use 16.04 right now?
[04:52] <guest-KFHqAp> Bashing-om?
[04:52] <ash_workz> lotuspsychje: topic... um.... "planning for extending/improving/fixing your software or application"
[04:52] <lotuspsychje> !patience | guest-KFHqAp
[04:52] <ash_workz> I am envisioning a form or template to fill out that asks you (when you want to incorporate a new feature into your software) things like, "What's the goal of this feature?" "How do you intend for this feature to work?" "What other components will this feature leverage?" "What other features will this feature impact?" etc. Basically, putting down on "paper" your ideas, diagrams, etc, just as...
[04:52] <acetakwas> Yesterday I even changed my SWAP to 12 GB.
[04:53] <ash_workz> ...you would when your brainstorming to begin with (and also allow for you to amend it as problems and things you hadn't thought of pop-up) so that you're producing documentation as you go which can be parsed and put into a system so as to be accessible to everyone on your team :)
[04:53] <ubuntu148> Why can't I get part of the computer to unmount?
[04:53] <lotuspsychje> ash_workz: but what has it to do with ubuntu exactly?
[04:53] <michagogo> lotuspsychje: I'm not necessarily. I'm trying to understand if I should be -- if there are expected to be major bugs that will be fixed by the time of .1
[04:53] <Bashing-om> guest-KFHqAp: To reset to defaults: from the F1 console ' xfce4-panel --quit ; pkill xfconfd ; rm -rf ~/.config/xfce4/panel ; rm -rf ~/.config/xfce4/xfconf/xfce-perchannel-xml/xfce4-panel.xml ' . ' xfce4-panel ' . his will respawn xfconfd automatically. This clears it for the running session, regenerates the files, and sets up the default for future sessions. reboot amd let's see what happens .
[04:54] <ash_workz> lotuspsychje: likely nothing.... I am throwing darts at walls because I don't know where to start :\
[04:54] <lotuspsychje> michagogo: major bugs will be taken out 'if' they are found yes
[04:54] <lotuspsychje> !alis | ash_workz
[04:54] <ash_workz> lotuspsychje: I just thought someone might have some incling of an idea do they could push me in that direction
[04:54] <michagogo> lotuspsychje: basically, my question has 2 parts
[04:55] <acetakwas> HI
[04:55] <ash_workz> lotuspsychje: that's great and all.... but what would you list?
[04:55] <acetakwas> I used to use pm-hibernate on my computer (and it worked for a couple of hibernates, say 3-4 times). However, ever since I tampered with SWAP (recreated it), it hasn't worked. It goes off as if it's hibernated, but starts afresh when I turn on the computer.
[04:55] <guest-KFHqAp> Bashing-om, can i copy that and then control alt f1 and paste it or will it not be available
[04:55] <acetakwas> SWAP was 4GB (before and after recreation).
[04:55] <acetakwas> Yesterday I even changed my SWAP to 12 GB.
[04:55] <Fisto> trying to install chrome or dropbox and the software center that opens, clicking install does nothing
[04:55] <lotuspsychje> ash_workz: what your looking for: brainstorm,...
[04:55] <michagogo> 1. Right now, is upgrading to Xenial contrarecommended? Is it expected to contain major bugs?
[04:56] <Fisto> @michagogo don't upgrade to Xenial, trying to install stuff is broken.
[04:56] <lotuspsychje> michagogo: 1. its not recommended if you want the safest LTS way
[04:56] <ash_workz> lotuspsychje: mkay.... I'll tias where it takes me
[04:56] <Fisto> can someone help me?
[04:56] <guest-KFHqAp> yeah, i guess ill have to write that on some paper
[04:56] <lotuspsychje> michagogo: 2. bugs will be expected as always
[04:56] <[Saint]> It has worked fine for me for weeks and weeks.
[04:56] <[Saint]> I've been on Xenial since it hit +1
[04:57] <Fisto> i cant install anything, trying to install chrome and it does NOTHING.  software center pops up, click install.   it greys out for a second and than comes back, spam the hell out of it and still nothing happens.
[04:57] <michagogo> 2. Is there anything special that happens when a point release comes out? Or is it just an arbitrary tag marking a moment, after 3 months of ongoing updates?
[04:57] <Fisto> can install dropbox either
[04:57] <[Saint]> Mind you, I use Ubuntu Server, and the lack of DE probably cuts out a lot of the room for eror.
[04:57] <michagogo> That is, is upgrading in 2 months (or a week before .1) better than upgrading now?
[04:57] <ash_workz> oh, also... if there's anyone that contributes to ubuntu here (packages or anything that requires development) have you ever used anything like what I am asking about?
[04:57] <duzhao> d
[04:58] <lotuspsychje> michagogo: but if you install 16.04 clean or upgrade now, you will also receive updates
[04:58] <[Saint]> Fisto: works fine here - *shrug* - has done so ever since I switched.
[04:58] <michagogo> lotuspsychje: but is the point release just a flag saying "you have all the released updates until this date"? Or is it something more special?
[04:58] <Bashing-om> acetakwas: Does the UUIDs in the file /etc/fstab agree with 'sudo blkid' ?
[04:58] <Guest5846> i want to backup /Users on windows partition. does cp -r work?
[04:58] <lotuspsychje> michagogo: nothing special
[04:59] <Fisto> @Saint i cant install dropbox or chrome.  it just opens the software center and wont proceed
[04:59] <lotuspsychje> michagogo: users can download then the 16.04.1 iso with all past bugs out
[04:59] <[Saint]> Fisto: so use dpkg
[04:59] <ubuntu148> My install keeps crashing over a part that won't unmount. :\
[04:59] <Fisto> @Saint no idea what that is, i tried sudo apt-get install google-chrome or sudo apt-get dropbox and it wont find the packages
[05:00] <lotuspsychje> michagogo: the wait for .1 for lts to lts upgrade is just a more secure way for transition
[05:00] <Fisto> there is a grey square box with a ? mark in it in my launcher that if i hover over says "Waiting to install"  i assume thats because the install wont work, but i have no idea
[05:00] <Bashing-om> guest-KFHqAp: fraid you will loose it getting to the console . In console you do not have the ability to paste .
[05:00] <acetakwas> Bashing-om::  Yes
[05:00] <[Saint]> "dpkg -i chrome_deb_that_you_downloaded.deb"
[05:01] <Fisto> @Saint i want to install them from the .deb files so it cleanly installs and dosen't leave room for problems i wont know how to fix later
[05:02] <Fisto> and even if i fix it that way, it wont tell me how to fix the problem im currently having now anyway
[05:02] <Bashing-om> acetakwas: Only thought I had why hiberbation would no longer work . Sorry .
[05:02] <[Saint]> Fisto: I'm not sure why you think that installing it with dpkg isn;t "clean", but, whatever.
[05:02] <[Saint]> It's a perfectly valid solution, take it or leave it.
[05:03] <michagogo> Fisto: if you want Google Chrome, download the .deb from Google
[05:03] <[Saint]> bingo.
[05:03] <Fisto> well because i use Ubuntu for the fact i install eith Via PPA or .Deb and not have a problem later down the line.  if i start tinkering with other methods i might as well move back to ARCH
[05:03] <Fisto> @michagogo thats whats not working
[05:03] <[Saint]> Fisto: did you even read what I wrote?
[05:03] <[Saint]> this _is_ installing from .deb
[05:03] <michagogo> Then open a terminal, type 'sudo dpkg -i /path/to/chrome.dev'
[05:04] <michagogo> Fisto: we're telling you to install from den
[05:04] <michagogo> Deb
[05:04] <[Saint]> and you're saying "no, I want to install from .deb"
[05:04] <[Saint]> and it's hilarious.
[05:04] <[Saint]> because that's what we're telling you to do.
[05:04] <michagogo> From personal experience, that's the way that works
[05:04] <Fisto> even if i do that, it dosen't fix the fact it dosent work correctly in the first place. im trying to get it to just work as intended instead of doing it as a workaround.  if i use the .deb file it should just open in the sofware center, i click install, and it asks for password.  and done
[05:04] <michagogo> And then continues to work with apt-get etc
[05:05] <michagogo> Fisto: idk, personally I never use Software Center
[05:05] <michagogo> Just apt-get and sometimes dpkg
[05:05] <[Saint]> Nor I. It is entirely superfluous.
[05:05] <michagogo> (Which is what SC does behind the scenes)
[05:05] <Fisto> using the method your providing with is fine, but its just that. a workaround. im trying to figure out why opening the .deb file as i always have in previous verions is failing to work
[05:06] <[Saint]> it's all the software manager is doing anyway.
[05:06] <[Saint]> you just want a fancy GUI wrapper for it for some reason.
[05:06] <michagogo> Just a more direct way of doing the same thing -- USC calls dpkg
[05:06] <lotuspsychje> its good for novice users who want GUI
[05:06] <guest-KFHqAp> Bashing-om
[05:06] <[Saint]> that, apparently, is broken on your system. I care not for that. I gave you a valid fix, use it or don't. I care not.
[05:06] <guest-KFHqAp> that did not work for me
[05:06] <michagogo> If you want to call that a workaround, okay
[05:06] <michagogo> [Saint]: well, I see his point
[05:07] <michagogo> USC *is* a feature of Ubuntu
[05:07] <[Saint]> I do too, kinda, but if he wants Chrome...
[05:07] <michagogo> And it's not working
[05:07] <guest-KFHqAp> for xfce4-panel it gave cannot open display
[05:07] <michagogo> If what he wants is to fix this specific problem, just use dpkg
[05:07] <[Saint]> The issue shouldn;t be if we're "sidestepping" anything, it should be how much he wants Chrome to run.
[05:07] <yacc> nickserv identify yacc qwerty
[05:07] <michagogo> But if he's looking to solve the USC problem...
[05:07] <[Saint]> woops yacc
[05:08] <lotuspsychje> yacc: change your password
[05:08] <michagogo> yacc: I hope that's not your password
[05:08] <[Saint]> (and qwerty, really? lol)
[05:08] <michagogo> If it is, change it now
[05:08] <lotuspsychje> heh
[05:08] <michagogo> (To something more secure!)
[05:08] <Fisto> see, this is why people call "Linux" a "too complicated" platform.   because using a GUI is "just unecessary" according to you two, why not just "go through terminal commands"  .  id prefer if the system just worked as intended. i have no problem uysing the method you provided, id just prefer it if you would help me figure out why its not working as intended instead of just doing it another slightly more complicated way
[05:08] <[Saint]> yeah - like 12345, like normal people.
[05:08] <rud0lf> for example 123456
[05:08] <[Saint]> hahaha
[05:08] <rud0lf> ^5 ;)
[05:08] <rud0lf> it's too obvious to be considered, eh?
[05:09] <michagogo> Fisto: is it also not working in other ways/cases?
[05:09] <Fisto> yes, i cant even install dropbox via .deb    anything .deb just opens the software center with the "Install" button prompt and when i click it, does nothing
[05:09] <rud0lf> i like linux' terminal, if there's something you think that may be done easy way, there's probably a command to do this
[05:10] <ubuntu148> qwerty is a weak password. qwertyuiop or get out >:C
[05:10] <yacc_> Btw, the upgrade 14.04 => 16.04 is a desaster that leaves the system unusable :(
[05:10] <Bashing-om> guest-KFHqAp: I am back , yes ?
[05:10] <michagogo> Fisto: I see. Unfortunately I'm completely unfamiliar with USC so I can't help. Maybe someone else can.
[05:10] <rud0lf> i just did clean install for 14.04 to 16.04 beta
[05:10] <michagogo> yacc_: hmm?
[05:10] <rud0lf> now i'm not sure if i have full distro :D
[05:10] <guest-KFHqAp> hey
[05:11] <guest-KFHqAp> it gave an error
[05:11] <guest-KFHqAp> cannot open display
[05:11] <yacc_> michagogo, meant as I said it :(
[05:11] <Fisto> well, like i said previously. there IS a a square box with a ? in it on my launcher that if i hover over says "Waiting to install" so im assuming its TRYING to do as intended, but somethings not working
[05:11] <guest-KFHqAp> for xfce4-panel --quit
[05:11] <michagogo> yacc_: what breaks?
[05:11] <michagogo> And why would that break more than a clean install?
[05:11] <tgm4883> Fisto: the first step would be seeing if it's printing any errors. Normally I'd do this via command line, but I'm not sure what the command is to start that. Perhaps 'gnome-software'
[05:12] <acetakwas> How do I make pm-hibernate work? It used to work before?
[05:12] <ubuntu148> I'm actually debating trying to get 12.04 and just spam upgrade commands until it gets to 16.04
[05:12] <Fisto> @tmg4883  they changed it from 'Software-Center'?  that might be why i cant open it in terminal
[05:12] <michagogo> Fisto: check htop for the process name
[05:12] <tgm4883> Fisto: is this 16.04?
[05:12] <Fisto> the newst release, yes
[05:12] <rud0lf> i don't use hibernate because it doesn't go into lock screen, it goes to desktop instead :[
[05:12] <Fisto> just installed like 30 minutes ago
[05:13] <tgm4883> Fisto: I believe it's based off gnome-software now
[05:13] <yacc_> michagogo, in my case, X11 does not come up, black screen. And the best I managed was to get a non-GLX X11 on the intel GPU going => and that (probably) let to a completely unusuable desktop. (As in: "a system program crashed" and 2s later you are back at the login prompt.)
[05:13] <Fisto> gnome-software  (gnome-software:4575): Gs-WARNING **: failed to open plugin /usr/lib/gs-plugins-9/libgs_plugin_xdg_app_reviews.so: /usr/lib/gs-plugins-9/libgs_plugin_xdg_app_reviews.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[05:13] <Bashing-om> guest-KFHqAp: from the F1 console. ' cat .xsession-errors | nc termbin.com 9999 ' . see what we can make out.
[05:13] <Fisto> that is returned,
[05:13] <abhi_> Hello is it possible to recover rm -rf deleted file
[05:13] <yacc_> michagogo, basically the upgrade seems not to care about your GUI setup.
[05:14] <michagogo> abhi_: first, remount the disk RO or turn off the computer
[05:14] <Jordan_U> Fisto: Does "pgrep dpkg" print anything?
[05:14] <michagogo> Then use photorec
[05:14] <rud0lf> alt+sysrq+u
[05:14] <rud0lf> i think
[05:14] <guest-KFHqAp> haha i was just looking at that
[05:14] <michagogo> (from a different system)
[05:14] <guest-KFHqAp> it gives this error
[05:14] <Fisto> @Jordan_U i am unfamiliar with that command, what do i attach it to?
[05:14] <tgm4883> !undelete | abhi_
[05:14] <guest-KFHqAp> cannot connect to brltty
[05:15] <Jordan_U> abhi_: Is it possible that the file is still open in any application / process?
[05:16] <DirtyCajun> so what can i use since stress is not a package in 16.04
[05:16] <Bashing-om> guest-KFHqAp: I do not know right off hand . I have been at this for hours and now I am too tired to think. I am quitting for this session .
[05:17] <guest-KFHqAp> termbin.com/9n03
[05:17] <bateelk> Hello, I was trying to encrypt /dev/sda2 with Disk utility. Once it is done, during reboot, the Ubuntu 16.04 went to emergency mode. Anyone knows how to fix this?
[05:17] <abhi_> Jordan_U: yes its postgresql data folder that i deleted
[05:17] <mcdonc> apologies if this is a faq; i installed xenial from a daily iso 2 days ago.. is there anything i need to do to ensure that i "stay LTS" or do i just keep on truckin
[05:18] <somsip> !final | mcdonc
[05:18] <Jordan_U> abhi_: If postfresql is still running *do not close it*
[05:18] <mcdonc> roger thanks!
[05:18] <abhi_> Jordan_U: ok then
[05:20] <Jordan_U> abhi_: Run the following command
[05:20] <mcdonc> nice work on the release, folks, i moved from 12.04 without much issue
[05:20] <Jordan_U> abhi_: sudo lsof | grep '(deleted)'
[05:20] <guest-KFHqAp> ok
[05:21] <Jordan_U> abhi_: It will probably list a lot of files, these are all the files on your system that have been unlinked but are still open.
[05:21] <Guest5846> how to check which USB content?
[05:22] <Guest5846> how to check liveUSB content?
[05:23] <Jordan_U> abhi_: https://www.linux.com/news/bring-back-deleted-files-lsof
[05:24] <Bashing-om> guest-KFHqAp: I can not make out what might be going on with the disaplay :0. Others here will have to take up my slack . I am gone for the session .
[05:25] <Jordan_U> abhi_: Note that using this exact method will copy the file as it's possibly in an inconsistent state since postgresql is currently running. This may not be ideal, but it can't make the situation worse. Your best bet is to to this then *also* use postgresql commands to try to dump the database in addition to making this copy.
[05:26] <stormanka> I got a quick yes or no question. If i reinstall and start to use LVM can i add my existing second harddrive to the volume group without formatting? thanks
[05:26] <hateball> stormanka: No
[05:26] <stormanka> hateball: okey, thanks alot for the info! Alot faster than google :)
[05:27] <soupnanodesukar> Btw, the australian archive server is missing packages, stuff like uuid-runtime for example. My sister stopped her upgrade process when she noticed she was getting 404 not found.
[05:27] <hateball> stormanka: There is also the option of using btrfs instead of LVM
[05:27] <styles> I just upgraded to 16.04 and Displays isn't showing any other monitors except one (I have 3)
[05:27] <hateball> stormanka: Depending on your needs of course
[05:28] <yacc_> styles: be happy that it even shows one ;)
[05:28] <Jordan_U> styles: Were you using proprietary drivers before the upgrade?
[05:28] <styles> Jordan_U, yeah. I first transitioned to the open source ones then upgraded
[05:28] <styles> I knew that they removed proprietary drivers
[05:29] <soupnanodesukar> ...so my sister switched to the us server in the hope that it would be more complete, but that server is like 10x slower.
[05:29] <Jordan_U> styles: Were all three monitors working with the open drivers before the upgrade?
[05:29] <stormanka> hateball: i just want to be able to store things across physical disks without using separate partitions in a way not to hard for a novice.
[05:29] <styles> Yeah
[05:29] <stormanka> hateball: without the help of GUI
[05:29] <Jordan_U> soupnanodesukar: It seems a little silly to try to upgrade now. I would just wait until the rush has passed.
[05:30] <soupnanodesukar> Jordan_U: that's what I was thinking
[05:30] <stratos> hey folks my wifi if not coming back online after suspend - I have to open the topright menu and select enable wifi every time
[05:30] <styles> Jordan_U, it's AMD ATI 7870 drivers
[05:30] <Jordan_U> soupnanodesukar: Also note that the australian server probably isn't missing uuid-runtime, but is more likely just missing the specific version of uuid-runtime that apt was trying to grab.
[05:31] <soupnanodesukar> Jordan_U: oh, okay. In any case I'll sit tight for a bit.
[05:31] <BoomHax> Can someone who is good with ubuntu/linux and know alot about it message me?
[05:31] <BoomHax> It will take 5 seconds
[05:31] <Jordan_U> !pm | BoomHax
[05:31] <Jordan_U> styles: Please pastebin the output of "xrandr" and the contents of /var/log/Xorg.0.log .
[05:31] <Guest5846> why gparted does not recognize the USB device it is running from?
[05:32] <Jordan_U> Guest5846: What do you mean by "not recognize"?
[05:32] <Guest5846> Jordan_U: there is no usb device in the list
[05:33] <Jordan_U> Guest5846: Please pastebin the output of "sudo parted -l" and "ls -l /dev/disk/by-path/" .
[05:33] <BoomHax> Jordan_U : I have an older computer. It is the dell inspiron 530s. It is fairly old but it ran windows 10 pretty good when I upgraded. Will the higher versions of linux/ubuntu be bad for an older pc?
[05:33] <styles> Jordan_U, http://pastebin.com/cWsAj3Kg
[05:33] <BoomHax> http://www.cnet.com/products/dell-inspiron-530s-pentium-e2160-1-8-ghz-2-gb-320-gb-lcd-17/specs/
[05:33] <BoomHax> Jordan_U, those are the specs
[05:34] <BoomHax> I am sorry I am a noob trying to get better
[05:34] <bullgard4> What is the most comprehensive document with subject "What's new in Ubuntu 16.04?"?
[05:34] <[Saint]> BoomHax: run a live session and find out.
[05:34] <[Saint]> you'll see how it runs, and it is entirely reversible.
[05:34] <BoomHax> I know, but it could seem fine at first and act really bad later
[05:35] <BoomHax> That's happened before to me so that's why I am asking
[05:35] <Jordan_U> BoomHax: Generally no, newer versions shouldn't be much heavier. I always recommend against using older versions just because you have older hardware. If anything, if Ubuntu 16.04 with Unity is too heavy for that machine then switch to Xubuntu 16.04, not an older version of Ubuntu with Unity.
[05:35] <[Saint]> No one here can predict the future.
[05:35] <BoomHax> Thank you.
[05:35] <styles> Jordan_U, it just looks like it never detects the others. The dd part is the second monitor is displayed on the left (mirrored) and not showing in displays
[05:35] <[Saint]> Best you can see is how it runs *now*.
[05:36] <[Saint]> Not how it might run at some unknown time in future.
[05:36] <BoomHax> Thank you
[05:37] <Jordan_U> styles: cat /proc/cmdline
[05:38] <Guest5846> Jordan_U: http://paste.ubuntu.com/15976645/
[05:38] <styles> Jordan_U, BOOT_IMAGE=/vmlinuz-4.4.0-21-generic root=UUID=a12d90a5-24ee-43c6-952f-b175d30442d0 ro quiet splash vt.handoff=7
[05:38] <acetakwas> How do I make pm-hibernate work?
[05:38] <Guest5846> Jordan_U: parted listed USB but gparted does not.
[05:39] <Jordan_U> Guest5846: Odd.
[05:39] <acetakwas> I just edited my /etc/default/grub with: `GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="enable_mtrr_cleanup=1 resume=/dev/sda6"`
[05:39] <acetakwas> But it still doesn't work
[05:39] <Solarbaby> damn my new ubuntu install on my mac just completely fell apart
[05:40] <Solarbaby> doesn't want to boot or really even see the boot drive
[05:40] <Solarbaby> thats annoying
[05:40] <Solarbaby> maybe I shouldn't have used luks full drive encryption on a mac
[05:41] <Solarbaby> shrug
[05:41] <Jordan_U> Solarbaby: What do you mean by "really even see the boot drive"? What exactly happens when you try to boot? What happens when you try to luksopen from a LiveCD/USB?
[05:42] <dionysus69> I ran vncserver command in .profile and it ran as root
[05:43] <dionysus69> how can I make it run as normal user
[05:43] <dionysus69> I just want to run vncserver at default 5901 at startup
[05:43] <Solarbaby> Jordan_U: it's been interesting for sure because different things happened during different reboots.  My very first reboot was awesome.  Luks asked me for my password and I was in and happy.  second reboot after finishing up with all my software installs and this is a big one I installed a propriatary recommended Nvidia driver the very newest it offered via software-updates manager.
[05:44] <Solarbaby> and then it asked me for my password at bootup but the keyboard or mouse or anything usb didn't work.. so I forced shut down the computer and then powered up again.. this time I get the boot manager but nothing is able to boot
[05:44] <styles> Jordan_U, any ideas? sorry to bug you. It seems like the output of that isn't showing the other monitors
[05:44] <Solarbaby> One other interesting detail is that when I start the computer and press alt key to select a boot drive the boot drive wasn't showing up
[05:45] <Solarbaby> but yet the boot manager does show up.. it just will stall out quickly while trying to boot recovery or anything else
[05:46] <Jordan_U> styles: It seems like the problem is starting with kms, "[KMS] drm report modesetting isn't supported.". Do you have full resolution ttys? Please pastebin the output of "dmesg".
[05:46] <Solarbaby> Jordan_U: this is a 2009 mac mini with the original 160 gig hard drive.. It is possible that my drive is showing signs of deteriation maybe.
[05:47] <styles> Jordan_U, http://pastebin.com/6ybNigqF
[05:47] <jak2000> hi
[05:47] <jak2000> how to install the lastest version of openssl ?
[05:48] <Jordan_U> Solarbaby: Check S.M.A.R.T. status of the drive via a LiveCD/USB.
[05:48] <Jordan_U> jak2000: What is your end goal?
[05:48] <Solarbaby> Jordan_U: Okay I'll do that right away
[05:50] <jak2000> apt-get install libsslversion
[05:50] <jak2000> but where to know wich version is?
[05:50] <Jordan_U> styles: I don't know why it's loading vesafb instead of the native ati drivers. Did you blacklist the native ati drivers at any point?
[05:51] <styles> Jordan_U, nope
[05:51] <Jordan_U> jak2000: What is your end goal?
[05:51] <styles> I had prop drivers installed then .. removed it and installed open source that's about it
[05:51] <styles> how can I check what's on the blacklist?
[05:52] <stormanka> Quick second yes or no question, should i include my swap partition in my lvm group/logical volume?
[05:52] <jak2000> instal couchbase
[05:52] <jak2000> i am followig: http://developer.couchbase.com/documentation/server/4.1/getting-started/installing.html#installing
[05:54] <Guest5846> Jordan_U: what is /dev/sda3 for? sda3 is the same as sda5
[05:56] <pksadiq> For those who have installed ubuntu 16.04, and not installed any other extra packages, can you please check for me if either of `acpi' or `upower -e' command gives you any output?
[05:56] <Jordan_U> jak2000: You probably already have libssl installed, but you can just run "sudo apt-get install libssl<tab><tab>" to see the available packages.
[05:58] <acetakwas> So I have taken care of my `pm-hibernate` issues
[05:58] <NoCode> Could you devs start thinking about enabled a Cinnamon official release image as well? That would be pretty nice. Wish Xerus had one. :(
[05:58] <acetakwas> Can anyone help with speeding up my computer?
[05:59] <NoCode> Cinnamon is quite sexy.
[05:59] <Guest13419> Hi there, anybody around who could help me troubleshooting wireless problems? More exactly: I do have a wireless connection, but (most times) no internet connection (see: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=361655 for details).
[05:59] <Jordan_U> NoCode: This isn't the place to get the attention of the Ubuntu developers.
[05:59] <acetakwas> Whenever I run Firefox (two windows and a couple of tabs) and Sublime (a couple of windows)
[05:59] <acetakwas> It starts getting slow
[06:00] <acetakwas> Then of course I have my IRC client and terminal (one window of Terminator) running
[06:00] <acetakwas> I don't expect these to make the computer slow.
[06:02] <NoCode> Jordan_U, That's fine. It is already done.
[06:02] <NoCode> Jordan_U, Don't get on my case.
[06:02] <vbotka> Guest13419, it seems like a problem with NetworkManager. You might want to try and disable it. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NetworkManager#Disabling_NetworkManager
[06:02] <NoCode> Jordan_U, Did I spam them?
[06:03] <styles> Jordan_U, so it looks like nothing is in /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist
[06:03] <styles> /etc/modprobe.d/ - is actually empty
[06:03] <NoCode> Anyway. Good luck with your support.
[06:03] <Jordan_U> NoCode: You've sent me 3 messages in reply to my one message. I meant only to inform you that you weren't furthering your goal here.
[06:04] <NoCode> Jordan_U, Yup.
[06:05] <Jordan_U> styles: Do all of the monitors work from a 16.04 LiveCD/USB?
[06:05] <styles> Jordan_U, no clue, I did the dist-upgrade
[06:05] <Guest13419> vbotka: I just tried WICD (and after installing it I ran 'sudo service network-manager stop' and 'sudo killall wpa_supplicant', but the problem stayed the same
[06:06] <Jordan_U> styles: Please test that. You can do so without any additional media if you want.
[06:06] <styles> Jordan_U, alright let me grab an image
[06:07] <jak2000> how to determine how much memory have installed?
[06:07] <shiznix> jak2000: free -h
[06:08] <vbotka> Guest13419, very probably you'll have to go through lower level details as described in !wifi
[06:08] <shiznix> oh yay, found the needed kernel fixes and ubuntu bug to get Intel gfx working again in 16.04
[06:08] <vbotka> Guest13419, !wifi
[06:08] <shiznix> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-video-intel/+bug/1522922
[06:09] <shiznix> and https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=91393
[06:09] <jak2000> thanks
[06:09] <Elec_A> I'm not sure if I am asking in a right place but I have a question about ubuntu mate. Is it a stable release in their website? becuase I know that it was under development for 2 years.
[06:10] <Guest13419> vbotka: !wifi?
[06:10] <shiznix> except as per the kernel bug, it can also mean dead display with black screen (which i get)
[06:11] <vbotka> Guest13419, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WirelessTroubleShootingGuide
[06:14] <Jordan_U> Elec_A: Ubuntu Mate is an official Ubuntu flavor, so yes.
[06:15] <Guest13419> vbotka: ok, thank you. I will try that
[06:16] <Guest13419> vbotka: the funny thing is that in this moment the connection is working.. I'll reboot
[06:16] <Elec_A> Jordan_U: Oh so all official flavors will release their stable versions together? right ?
[06:17] <edisto> well ubuntu gnome doesnt have 16.04 on their site but I did find it through ubuntu.com. So 'm guessing so elec
[06:17] <styles> Jordan_U, alright I have to reboot to do this. I'll be back, will you be around?
[06:18] <Jordan_U> Elec_A: I expect that that's the general policy, but more importantly Ubuntu Mate's website says that Ubuntu Mate 16.04 has been released.
[06:18] <Jordan_U> styles: For a while, yes.
[06:18] <Elec_A> Jordan_U: thanks :)
[06:19] <Jordan_U> Elec_A: You're welcome.
[06:20] <edisto> lol i'm so disappointed. I've been waiting for 16.04 to use my dual gpu's and I can't even log in =(
[06:21] <edisto> amd support for linux has been so pooh. Can't install dual gpu drivers
[06:21] <zjhxmjl> hi,guys!who can give me help or advance?https://forums.geforce.com/default/topic/932240/geforce-drivers/install-gtx-750ti-driver-in-ubuntu-14-04-32bit-system/
[06:22] <styles> Jordan_U, alright thanks. It's not writing to my USB blah
[06:23] <Jordan_U> styles: What problem are you having writing to the USB? How are you trying to prepare the USB drive?
[06:23] <styles> Jordan_U, unetbootin
[06:24] <Dro> is it safe to upgrade from 14.04 to 16.04 now ?
[06:24] <Jordan_U> Dro: Direct upgrades to 16.04 from 14.04 will be enabled when 16.04.1 is released, so it's best to wait for that to happen.
[06:25] <edisto> yeah or you might get the error where you get stuck in infinite login loop
[06:25] <Dro> Jordan_U, ok! hope it'll come soon.. can't wait to try 16.04 :D
[06:26] <Jordan_U> styles: You haven't described what the problem you're having is yet. Is there any error message?
[06:27] <yacc_> Are there any directions how to create a fully encrypted LUKS/LVM install with ubiquity, or should it be obvious?
[06:28] <Jordan_U> styles: And again, you don't need to use a USB drive if you don't want to.
[06:28] <davido> It seems that openconnect isn't compatible with network manager in 16.04.
[06:29] <Jordan_U> styles: sudo apt install grml-rescueboot && sudo mkdir -p /boot/grml/ && sudo cp /path/to/ubuntu.iso /boot/grml/ && sudo update-grub
[06:29] <styles> Jordan_U, woah nice didn't know this!
[06:30] <styles> Jordan_U, ah this is rescue boot?
[06:30] <styles> I though live CD
[06:30] <styles> yeah rescue boot didn't work either
[06:30] <davido> In particular, installing openconnect and the network manager plugin for it, the openconnect vpn does not appear in the list of available vpns to add a connection for.
[06:32] <Jordan_U> styles: The name is misleading, it is not grml specific (supports any distro which ships a loopback.cfg, which all Ubuntu isos do) and it's not related to the "rescue" boot option. It will add an entry to your grub menu for loop booting any Ubuntu isos you put in /boot/grml/.
[06:33] <yacc_> Fascinating, my laptop has two builtin "hdds" (actually sdd/hdd) and currently 2 USB harddiscs connected, and one SD card mounted, and ubiquity offers me "delete harddisc" as an option => WHICH HARDDISC?
[06:33] <styles> Jordan_U, ah ok
[06:34] <Kartagis> sudo do-release-upgrade
[06:34] <Kartagis> Checking for a new Ubuntu release
[06:34] <Kartagis> No new release found
[06:34] <Kartagis> why?
[06:34] <Jordan_U> yacc_: Please provide a screenshot and the output of "ls -l /dev/disk/by-path/" and "ls -l /dev/disk/by-id/".
[06:34] <styles> Jordan_U, No space left on device asdfasdfadsf blah lol
[06:35] <acer> Hey Ladies
[06:35] <Jordan_U> Kartagis: What version of Ubuntu are you trying to upgrade from?
[06:35] <Kartagis> 14.04
[06:35] <yacc_> Jordan_U, I'm already solving it in hardcore way, by disconnecting the discs that are not needed.
[06:35] <Jordan_U> Kartagis: Upgrades from 14.04 won't be enabled until 16.04.1 is released.
[06:35] <Kartagis> oh
[06:35] <Kartagis> okay
[06:36] <Elec_A> Sorry for this odd question, but why it takes several monthes to introduce a new version of ubuntu and only major upgrade is supporting several new hardware and unity's ability to go to bottom? I am upgrading from ubuntu 14.04 to 16.04 and I literally see no difference and improvement in my work. by the way, I am just a programmer.
[06:36] <Jordan_U> styles: Is that "no space left" from the cp command?
[06:36] <styles> Jordan_U, yeah
[06:36] <styles> it's a 1GB boot too
[06:37] <Jordan_U> Elec_A: #ubuntu-discuss or #ubuntu-offtopic for that please as it's not a support question.
[06:37] <Kartagis> thanks Jordan_U
[06:37] <yacc_> Elec_A, well, the whole software collection has been freshend up, so it's not only the tiny bullet points that the change log shows.
[06:37] <Jordan_U> Kartagis: You're welcome.
[06:37] <Kartagis> Jordan_U: has it always been like this?
[06:38] <Elec_A> Jordan_U: oh, Ok , Thanks. sorry about that.
[06:38] <braderhart> [Saint]: Please encourage and help users submit bugs when they encounter issues. Having them use dpkg is not a solution.
[06:38] <Jordan_U> Kartagis: It was that way for the upgrade from 12.04 to 14.04, I don't remember off the top of my head for previous LTS to LTS upgrades.
[06:40] <Jordan_U> styles: Ahh, you have a separate /boot/ partition. You can either try to debug unetbootin or we can add an entry for loop booting your Ubuntu iso manually (from your root FS, not from /boot/). Which would you prefer?
[06:40] <styles> Probably unetbootin
[06:40] <styles> I ran it from terminal to see any output and nothing
[06:40] <Jordan_U> styles: And be sure to delete the partially copied ubuntu iso, so that your /boot/ isn't staying full.
[06:41] <styles> Jordan_U, did
[06:41] <yacc_> Jordan_U, actually, it allows to select the hdd device in a later step, but the earlier page of the installation is scary.
[06:41] <Jordan_U> styles: So it said that it succeeded? You're still not telling me what happened and what problem you had.
[06:42] <styles> Jordan_U, ah ok so I removed the .iso from /boot to keep it not full.
[06:42] <styles> The unetbootin is still failing (or not copying)
[06:42] <styles> and dd didn't work either
[06:44] <Jordan_U> styles: Failing *how*? How can you tell it failed? Does it say it succeeded but create a USB drive that's not bootable? Does it freeze? Does the unetbootin window vanish without an error? Something else?
[06:44] <styles> Jordan_U, it's just stuck, never moves
[06:44] <styles> Files aren't being copied onto the drive
[06:44] <styles> I'm wondering if the drive is bad, trying to find another
[06:45] <Jordan_U> styles: How can you tell that files aren't being copied onto the drive? If it's getting "stuck" copying the squashfs, that's because the squashfs contains *all of Ubuntu root filesystem* for the Live image, it's a single file and takes up by far most of the space.
[06:46] <pksadiq> styles: Can you try right clicking the iso -> open with Disk image writer?
[06:46] <styles> Jordan_U, unetbootin's progress bar doesn't move
[06:47] <[Saint]> braderhart: If the user "just wants to install Chrome", then, it very well is a solution.
[06:47] <Jordan_U> styles: That's because unetbootin's progress bar is a horrible UI failure. That's what always happens, when it's working "correctly".
[06:47] <styles> humm
[06:48] <ABC-XYZ> Hi, i'm running Ubuntu GNOME 16.04; with the inclusion of GNOME Software I was hoping GNOME's app folders would be working: whilst there are 2 pre-defined app folders, and the UI seems to be there in GNOME Software, it just doesn't add any of the required dconf keys.. Anyone got this working?
[06:48] <Jordan_U> styles: The progress bar only goes farther after another "file" has been copied, which is a U.I. failure because every LiveCD image has a lot of very small files and one relatively gigantic squashfs image.
[06:48] <braderhart> [Saint]: I'm sorry but I disagree. First, if you use dpkg to install chrome then you have to run a sudo apt-get -f install after because it doesn't handle dependencies. The new Gnome Software is supposed to work like the Ubuntu Software Center did. So first step is to encourage user to confirm the bug which already exist. That is how things get fixed.
[06:49] <athend_> Hi. I'm using trusty and my screen just froze indefinitely so I couldn't even see the running processes or what caused it. I waited for about 20 minutes before I hit the reset button. This is the first time it has happened. Any idea what may have caused it?
[06:49] <braderhart> [Saint]: It's not helping Linux users have a positive experience when you insist that a workaround is the only way to get things done.
[06:49] <Blue1> athend_: yeah it wants something like libindicator
[06:49] <styles> Jordan_U, so it's running again.. extracting bootloader configuration is (step 2) anod nothing has moved
[06:49] <styles> I'll just wait
[06:49] <[Saint]> braderhart: you're looking at a solution to the problem as a whole, which is admirable, I was looking at the users current problem with a mind to fixing it _right now_.
[06:50] <[Saint]> In and of itself, a bug report is not a soliton to the user who wants Chrome installed _now_.
[06:50] <[Saint]> bah - spelling.
[06:50] <yacc_> "post installation trigger for update-notifier-common" seems to take very long, is that normal?
[06:50] <Jordan_U> styles: That's not an area where I expect it to hang. While we're waiting for that to succeed or fail, why not work on manually adding the iso to your boot menu?
[06:50] <athend_> Blue1: can I get that package using apt?
[06:51] <[Saint]> braderhart: I never did as you claimed, either.
[06:51] <[Saint]> Just saying.
[06:51] <[Saint]> I didn't once say it was his only option, just an option.
[06:51] <Blue1> athend_: usually doing a sudo apt-get -f install will fix the dependancy issues with chrome.
[06:52] <styles> Jordan_U, sure let's go ahead and try that then
[06:52] <styles> It's still stuck
[06:52] <athend_> Blue1 wait, I never mentioned that I was using Chrome
[06:52] <Jordan_U> styles: http://www.supergrubdisk.org/wiki/Loopback.cfg#How_do_you_use_a_loopback.cfg_to_boot_an_iso.3F
[06:52] <athend_> I had two tabs open on Firefox when the freeze happened
[06:53] <Blue1> athend_: the dependancies are in the repo - that should fix the issue
[06:53] <Blue1> I am going to try to upgrade kubuntu 14.04 to 16.04 --
[06:54] <Jordan_U> Blue1: Best to wait for 16.04.1 to be released, at which point the LTS to LTS upgrade will actually be supported.
[06:54] <Blue1> Jordan_U: Thanks - I will do that.
[06:54] <Jordan_U> Blue1: You're welcome.
[06:55] <braderhart> [Saint]: I read through the convo and he made it clear that he wanted to use the default file handler (aka Ubuntu/Gnome Software) to install. I don't want to bicker about it but it looked to me that you made some jokes saying it depends on how much you want to install the .deb file and that. That he just wants a fancy GUI wrapper. Then that it is apparently
[06:55] <braderhart> broken on his system and that you don't care for that. That you gave him a valid fix and that is it.
[06:56] <styles> Jordan_U, is there a smaller iso that isn't 1GB or w/e for rescue mode?
[06:56] <styles> My boot is ~800 mb
[06:56] <[Saint]> For a guy that doesn't want to bicker, you sure do a lot of talking about things that aren't in dispute.
[06:56] <braderhart> [Saint]: If you really want to contribute to the open source movement and helping users, then you will try to find better ways to communicate and help with issues. Like, for example, helping someone search and find a bug on Launchpad so that they can confirm it.
[06:57] <Jordan_U> [Saint]: braderhart: Please take this discussion elsewhere (or at least discontinue it here).
[06:57] <braderhart> Jordan_U: Certainly
[06:58] <Jordan_U> styles: Not really, no. Do you have any questions about the guide I linked to?
[06:58] <styles> Jordan_U, no it makes sense
[06:59] <|ZNC|MiniVorap> Hello!
[07:00] <|ZNC|MiniVorap> I have a question
[07:01] <Jordan_U> styles: When you're done if you pastebin your /boot/grub/custom.cfg I can check it for you.
[07:02] <|ZNC|MiniVorap> I have a ubuntu server that runs a vpn. I need to run a command that starts the vpn client on the machine everytime it boots. I don't have physical access to the machine so I have to get it right the first time
[07:02] <|ZNC|MiniVorap> I have ssh access to the box
[07:03] <braderhart> |ZNC|MiniVorap: Does it run the VPN service or just connects via a client on the server?
[07:04] <|ZNC|MiniVorap> It just connects
[07:04] <|ZNC|MiniVorap> The command is netvirt-agent
[07:04] <|ZNC|MiniVorap> and that starts the vpn client
[07:05] <Leoneof> hello, is there Ubuntu Testing ?
[07:06] <Jordan_U> Leoneof: Not in the sense of Debian Testing, no.
[07:06] <|ZNC|MiniVorap> braderhart: I have tried to google but I can't find it for ubuntu
[07:08] <Jordan_U> styles: I think it's safe to give up on unetbootin at this point.
[07:08] <Leoneof> Jordan_U: thanks
[07:09] <Jordan_U> Leoneof: You're welcome.
[07:09] <Evangelion> Hâllo
[07:10] <braderhart> |ZNC|MiniVorap: This is it, yeah? https://www.dynvpn.com/download/
[07:10] <|ZNC|MiniVorap> Yeapp
[07:11] <|ZNC|MiniVorap> braderhart: It is, yes
[07:11] <styles> Jordan_U, I can't find another drive :(
[07:12] <braderhart> |ZNC|MiniVorap: I'm looking for some instructions now at how to autoconnect to the VPN from command line. I'm used to using Network Manager.
[07:12] <|ZNC|MiniVorap> Ah, okay
[07:12] <|ZNC|MiniVorap> braderhart: Could you link me?
[07:12] <Jordan_U> styles: The whole point of loop booting is that you don't need another drive.
[07:13] <House> does anyone have sssd+AD working with autofs for smb mounts?
[07:13] <Jordan_U> styles: Keep the iso file where it is, on your root filesystem.
[07:13] <styles> Ah ok
[07:14] <syth> https://youtu.be/AVl1LCx78ls
[07:17] <tataout> Hi guys, i run into a problem, the samba update from 4.1.6 broke the configuration of my clients under Ubuntu 14.04. I'm using winbind to authenticate users against a microsoft Active Directory 2008R2 and pam_mount_conf.xml to mount remote cifs shares as homedirs but since the samba update the shares are not mounted at login. Someone have an idea ? :)
[07:18] <Jordan_U> syth: Please don't post such links to #ubuntu. As they are not related to Ubuntu support they are considered spam.
[07:22] <Guest65740> normally how much disk partions should be allocated to ubuntu/swap?
[07:23] <lotuspsychje> !swap | Guest65740
[07:24] <Guest65740> lotuspsychje: so how much space? i am now going to install...
[07:25] <lotuspsychje> Guest65740: the ubuntu setup will auto partition for you if you like
[07:26] <lotuspsychje> Guest65740: or do you have a specific reason to manual partition?
[07:27] <Guest65740> lotuspsychje: is this for all Ubuntu based distros? mint etc.
[07:27] <lotuspsychje> Guest65740: mint is not supported here mate
[07:27] <lotuspsychje> Guest65740: we can only help you for official ubuntu flavors
[07:28] <BlessJah> Guest65740: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SwapFaq#How_much_swap_do_I_need.3F
[07:29] <Jordan_U> styles: I'm going to sleep in 10 minutes.
[07:29] <styles> Jordan_U, I can't actually get this working :(
[07:29] <Jordan_U> styles: What problem are you having?
[07:29] <styles> I'm noticing that I do have to move this because it's in an encrypted home dir atm
[07:29] <styles> So I'm moving it to /root and trying it
[07:30] <styles> I don't wanna goof up my grub.cfg blah
[07:30] <Jordan_U> styles: It's hard to "goof up" your custom.cfg in such a way that would prevent you from booting (and you shouldn't be touching your grub.cfg at all).
[07:31] <styles> http://pastebin.com/S5zR8X0C
[07:31] <styles> that's what I came up w/
[07:31] <Jordan_U> styles: Looks good.
[07:31] <styles> that's the whole custom.cfg file
[07:32] <Jordan_U> styles: Great. Reboot and try it.
[07:34] <slaffe> hm, is there any software you can stream your local mp3s from your server to your smartphone?
[07:34] <slaffe> and change the songs from a playlist in the phone?
[07:34] <somsip> slaffe: depends on your server, depends on your smartphone, and this belongs in #ubuntu-offtopic
[07:34] <slaffe> thanks
[07:35] <newbie|4> What is the command again when you get a partial upgrade because your wife shuts down the fuse box in the middle?
[07:35] <newbie|4> and you need to fix it
[07:36] <BlessJah> lotuspsychje: is there any particular reason which stops you from helping with problem on ubuntu-based distro that is not specific to that distro?
[07:36] <EriC^^> newbie|4: sudo dpkg --configure -a
[07:36] <newbie|4> EriC^^: Thx
[07:36] <newbie|4> that's the one
[07:36] <EriC^^> newbie|4: np
[07:37] <styles> Jordan_U: hey so grub didn't show up
[07:37] <styles> I'm on another laptop, but Ubuntu did boot again
[07:37] <tasos> hello friends! :)
[07:37] <lotuspsychje> BlessJah: i never said he cant get any support
[07:37] <lotuspsychje> BlessJah: he asked if its the same on mint, and informed him we dont support mint
[07:38] <yacc> When we are at it, grub does not show up in 16.04 if I have my USB3 hub (with 2 hdds behind it) connected, ...
[07:38] <newbie|4> EriC^^: It's really messed up.  The background is no more and when I try "software updater", nothing happens
[07:38] <Jordan_U> styles: Add "timeout=10" to the top of your custom.cfg.
[07:38] <styles> yacc: dang I had it setup too
[07:38] <Jordan_U> styles: (without the quotes)
[07:38] <nindustries> Hi guys, so I have a repo key signature that can't get verified. How do I find out what entry it is?
[07:39] <styles> Jordan_U: did and rebooting
[07:39] <yacc> styles, ?
[07:39] <styles> I also removed the USB drive
[07:39] <styles> I had a USB drive plugged in I noticed
[07:39] <nindustries> W: GPG error: http://ppa.launchpad.net trusty InRelease: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY D834D91FA49CCDDB
[07:39] <styles> Jordan_U: no luck :(
[07:39] <styles> still boots normal
[07:39] <tasos> I installed ubuntu 16.04 server.. but  can't connect , why ?
[07:39] <tasos> via ssh
[07:40] <Jordan_U> styles: Please pastebin the current contents of your /boot/grub/custom.cfg , and double check that the path is correct.
[07:40] <yacc> And 16.04 seems to be ridiculously unresponsive, the xchat-gnome window turns to gray for a second once a minute, just because I'm restoring data to the root fs?
[07:40] <styles> kk
[07:41] <lotuspsychje> yacc: xchat is no longer maintained
[07:41] <lotuspsychje> yacc: use hexchat instead, or another irc client
[07:41] <yacc> lotuspsychje, well, the terminal turns gray too, just not as often :(
[07:41] <yacc> lotuspsychje, firefox too.
[07:42] <styles> Jordan_U: http://pastebin.com/pjBNDwFj
[07:42] <yacc> lotuspsychje, you basically focused on the most irrelevant detail of my observation.
[07:42] <Jordan_U> yacc: Background writeback has been a problem for the linux kernel since forever, and is finally going to be (hopefully) fixed soon, but not in Ubuntu 16.04: http://lwn.net/Articles/682582/
[07:42] <styles> I'm trying to hurry so you don't have to leave :P
[07:42] <yacc> Jordan_U, 14.04 managed it much better.
[07:43] <Jordan_U> styles: timeout=10 needs to be outside the menu entry, for example as the first line of the file.
[07:43] <styles> Jordan_U: ah
[07:44] <styles> fixed and rebooting
[07:44] <styles> Still just a black screen
[07:44] <styles> Then it boots normal
[07:44] <yacc> Actually, 16.04 Live managed it better, because I could backup the old root fs quite nicely. (ok, that was using dd, while now I'm using cp to select what files to restore, so 16.04 without many filesystem accesses has no issues either)
[07:44] <Jordan_U> styles: Is the screen black for 10 seconds?
[07:45] <styles> Yeah
[07:46] <Jordan_U> styles: OK, so you're just not seeing the grub menu. Have you ever seen the grub menu on this installation?
[07:46] <styles> I think I have since 16.04.
[07:47] <styles> I know I did prior to it every time
[07:48] <Jordan_U> styles: If you press the escape key during that 10 seconds does the grub menu show?
[07:49] <styles> Nope
[07:49] <styles> I'll try again though
[07:49] <styles> Bah it does
[07:50] <styles> Ok I'm booting in trial mode
[07:50] <yacc> styles, pressing keys at the right moment through the boot process is a tricky proposition ;)
[07:50] <styles> yacc: it just always showed I'm embarrassed :(
[07:50] <styles> Jordan_U: yep both monitors show
[07:51] <styles> So it's clearly something with my installation that's goofy.
[07:51] <Jordan_U> styles: OK. Please pastebin the output of "dmesg" and the contents of /var/log/Xorg.0.log from the live session so that we can compare it to the previous pastes from the non working install.
[07:53] <styles> Jordan_U: patsebin.com/RWJ4Uibu
[07:54] <styles> http://pastebin.com/RWJ4Uibu