[11:54] <ActionParsnip> oskar-: if you are going to use vnc, use it over an ssh tunnel for security
[11:54] <ziroday> aprilhare: can you please pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list
[11:54] <yeryry> oskar-: I've tried vnc.. works, but seems very slow compared to rdp.. I'll look into xdcmp
[11:54] <TatrIX> anyone that can help me? :) dont XChat have "userlist" ? :) so you can se who is online in chans? :)
[11:54] <tsurc> djviper: which column do I need to look at though? there is a swap bar similar to the listing in top but it only shows how much is being used... not whats using it
[11:55] <oskar-> yeryry:  yes, that is a problem. rdp is really fast...
[11:55] <aprilhare> how do i pastebin?
[11:55] <aprilhare> :)
[11:55] <ziroday> TatrIX: yes, its on the side. XChat help in #xchat
[11:55] <ActionParsnip> !paste | aprilhare
[11:55] <ziroday> !pastebin | aprilhare
[11:55] <well> could anyone tell me how to make supertab in vim cycle from top to bottom? befault, my supertab cycle from bottom to top
[11:55] <TatrIX> ziroday >>> im not sure? :s im new @ linux...
[11:56] <oskar-> ActionParsnip:  LTSP uses xdmcp, i think
[11:56] <TatrIX> woops... :s
[11:56] <TatrIX> wrong botton... -.-
[11:56] <aprilhare> http://paste.ubuntu.com/76756/
[11:56] <ziroday> TatrIX: it should appear on the side by default.
[11:56] <ActionParsnip> oskar-: i just websearched it. Id just use SSH, much faster than any gui going
[11:56] <ziroday> TatrIX: right side to be exact
[11:57] <TatrIX> dont see any default... :s
[11:57] <aprilhare> confusing - the update just should have gone ahead
[11:57] <ziroday> TatrIX: then you have disabled it in your settings. Change it in Settings > Preferences > User list
[11:58] <TatrIX> ^
[11:58] <oskar-> yeryry:  if you want to experiment, there seems a rdp capable x server... but you should do that on your own ;)
[11:58] <oskar-> yeryry:  it is called Xrdp
[11:58] <ziroday> aprilhare: the sources.list looks fine. Can you remove the #Openoffice.org part
[11:59] <ActionParsnip> aprilhare: http://news.softpedia.com/news/How-To-Install-OpenOffice-org-3-0-in-Ubuntu-8-10-96449.shtml
[11:59] <yeryry> oskar-: hmm..
[12:00] <drh> If im using konsole how do i get ascii to display properly.. like for epic scripts etc..
[12:00] <ziroday> ActionParsnip: aprilhare has done all that, it still does not work
[12:00] <oskar-> yeryry:  what connection do you have between terminal server and client? if it has high bandwidth and low latency (ethernet/...) ,then try xdmcp. it will normally work well, if once set up
[12:00] <ActionParsnip> ziroday: ok let me test
[12:01] <drh> grr auto nick wtfunk
[12:01] <ngora> hi veryone
[12:01] <yeryry> oskar-: yep, ethernet
[12:01] <ziroday> aprilhare: any luck after removing that part?
[12:01] <ngora> little help please...I have added the open office 3 repos, but no update is available, actually it does not seem the system pulls information from the ppa at all
[12:01] <yeryry> oskar-: would that give me a new session when I log in remotely, or could I log in to the existing session?
[12:02] <aprilhare> ziroday, just giving it a try now
[12:02] <oskar-> yeryry:  it would give a new
[12:02] <aprilhare> no go
[12:02] <aprilhare> dam
[12:02] <ziroday> aprilhare: please pastebin the output of sudo apt-get update ;; sudo apt-get upgrade
[12:02] <ActionParsnip> yep i get the same
[12:02] <ActionParsnip> no updates
[12:03] <ziroday> ActionParsnip: oh really?
[12:03] <yeryry> oskar-: hmm, not so good.. and when I disconnect what would happen to that session? could I reconnect to it later?
[12:03] <ActionParsnip> yes, really
[12:03] <paul68> hi I use this script to run my iptables http://paste.ubuntu.com/76757/ however I get these errors anyone an Idea how to solve them? the 1st: Unknown arg `--syn'  and the second based on this rule /sbin/iptables -A FORWARD -i eth1 -o eth0 -s <IP_ADDRESS>/25 -m tcp --dport 110 -j ACCEPT  iptables: Invalid argument
[12:03] <ngora> ActionParsnip aprilhare what packages are yoiu trying to update?
[12:03] <nexiv> how can i check what encoder has been used in an mp3
[12:03] <oskar-> yeryry:  disconnection would end the session, afaik
[12:03] <ActionParsnip> ziroday: aprilhare: http://paste.ubuntu.com/76758/
[12:04] <yeryry> oskar-: ok, that's useless heh
[12:04] <concernedcitizen> hi guys, I'm looking to switch from kubuntu to ubuntu, how can I do that?
[12:04] <bazhang> install ubuntu-desktop concernedcitizen
[12:04] <ngora> ok I subscribe to the openoffice problem
[12:04] <ngora> :(
[12:04] <aprilhare> http://paste.ubuntu.com/76760/
[12:05] <ziroday> aprilhare: ActionParsnip trying now myself :)
[12:05] <concernedcitizen> after installing it, how do I load it at boot?
[12:05] <ngora> jaunty does function, but obviously it requires upgraded libraries which are still in development
[12:05] <bazhang> concernedcitizen, at login window under session
[12:05] <Sharp_eyes> is ther any body can help me to open winrar files
[12:05] <Q-collective> ActionParsnip: thanks for the link, but I think the current installed driver is more modern then the one on that website :p
[12:05] <ziroday> aprilhare: ActionParsnip mine updated fine
[12:05] <oskar-> yeryry:  with ssh you get a faster remote experience ;)  screen give you the possibility of persistent consoles. maybe that suffices?
[12:05] <miss_nn> miss_nn
[12:05] <concernedcitizen> but that means the splash page is sitll kubuntu?
[12:06] <ngora> ziroday: how did you do it?
[12:06] <ziroday> ngora: what do you mean?
[12:06] <Sharp_eyes> miss nn can u plz help me ..
[12:06] <ActionParsnip> ziroday: i added the new repo to my /etc/apt/sources.lst, apt-get update; apt-get upgrade; apt-get dist-upgrade and no dice whatsoever
[12:06] <aprilhare> http://paste.ubuntu.com/76761/
[12:06] <aprilhare> odder
[12:06] <yeryry> oskar-: heh.. I already use telnet, but I need GUI... maybe I can tweak vnc to be faster..
[12:07] <Sharp_eyes> ziroday can u help me in open rar files.....
[12:07] <ngora> ziroday: exactly the ActionParsnip problem
[12:07] <ngora> uhm gotta run lunch
[12:07] <Sharp_eyes> ziroday: help me in open rar files
[12:07] <ngora> bye
[12:07] <ActionParsnip> !rar | Sharp_eyes
[12:07] <Slart> Hello, I'm having some problems printing a pdf and I wonder if someone else could take a look at it just to make sure if it's the pdf that's broken or my machine that's acting strange
[12:07] <ziroday> ActionParsnip: odd just added the repo myself, did sudo apt-get upgrade and it appeared. Unless I am getting un update to 2.4 OOO which I doubt
[12:07] <oskar-> yeryry:  yes, maybe
[12:07] <ActionParsnip> ziroday: i got an update for office earlier today
[12:07] <aprilhare> there was an update to 2.4 recently.
[12:08] <gregd> hi guys, if I'd like to use kernel-2.6.28-rc6 what should I do? Is there any way of getting it (beginner question) ?
[12:08] <ziroday> ActionParsnip: ah right :(
[12:08] <Sharp_eyes> ActionParsnip: yes rar
[12:08] <ActionParsnip> Sharp_eyes: read the guide
[12:08] <ziroday> ActionParsnip: turns out it is just a 2.4 update :P
[12:08] <Sharp_eyes> ?
[12:08] <ActionParsnip> !rar | Sharp_eyes
[12:08] <Netcowboy> !info unrar-free
[12:08] <lagann_> yeryry, have you tried krdc?
[12:08] <Sharp_eyes> which guide?
[12:08] <oskar-> gregd:  if you are a beginner, then you should consider staying at the kernels given by the distribution ;)
[12:09] <yeryry> lagann_: no..
[12:09] <ActionParsnip> ziroday: yeah thats what i got as you can see from my grepping
[12:09] <drh> ARE there any fonts in ubuntu that display ascii art properly? how do i get to them in Konsole?
[12:09] <gregd> oskar-: and are there any easy howto's for that?
[12:09] <ziroday> ActionParsnip: I'm asking the maintainer now :)
[12:09] <LoveGuru> Hello, I just install "ubuntu-desktop" package but i dont want X server start at boot up. i want to start my server manullay when i need it. is there anyhow i can do that?
[12:09] <gregd> oskar-: I feel confident enough to play around ;)
[12:09] <ActionParsnip> ziroday: sweet
[12:09] <tommyd> Hi all! Is it (somehow) possible to update from Debian Etch 4.0 Server to Ubuntu 8.04 server?
[12:09] <Lynx_> Hi all! In an attempt to get skype working I did the pulseaudio fixes (http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=789578), and now Amarok won't start, or rather crashes after starting, even after reinstalling Amarok and deleting all config files.
[12:09] <oskar-> drh:  i think, they are called monospace or non-proportional fonts
[12:10] <ziroday> ActionParsnip: unfortunately in the USA, so sleeping
[12:10] <tommyd> we encounter several major issues with the PHP version of Debian Etch, but unfortunately have deployed a lot of things already there
[12:10] <aprilhare> ooobasis3.0-x packages are here, deactivated - is that it?
[12:10] <Slart> tommyd: I don't think so.. not in any kind of supported way at least
[12:10] <drh> so oskar- where do i change that setting? do you know?
[12:10] <tommyd> Slart: hrmm... not good
[12:10] <oskar-> drh:  in gnome-terminal, edit, current profile...
[12:10] <paul68> hi I use this script to run my iptables http://paste.ubuntu.com/76757/ however I get these errors anyone an Idea how to solve them? the 1st: Unknown arg `--syn'  and the second based on this rule /sbin/iptables -A FORWARD -i eth1 -o eth0 -s <IP_ADDRESS>/25 -m tcp --dport 110 -j ACCEPT  iptables: Invalid argument
[12:11] <tommyd> Slart: I guess changing the sources.list and doing an apt-get dist-upgrade won't work...
[12:11] <Slart> tommyd: although I must say your chances are better with debian->ubuntu than for example fedora->ubuntu.. but I guess you already knew that =/
[12:11] <yeryry> lagann_: it looks like a client only, for kde? doesn't seem relevant to me?
[12:11] <tommyd> yeah, I know
[12:11] <gregd> or is there any repository with rc-kernels?
[12:11] <drh> hmm i think im just gonna have to install a different font
[12:11]  * aprilhare has vague memories of trying ooo3 deb files before removing them due to dissatisfaction
[12:11] <Slart> tommyd: I have no idea really.. who knows.. it might just work.. but I guessing something will go wrong
[12:11] <oskar-> !kernel > gregd
[12:12] <LoveGuru> Hello, I just install "ubuntu-desktop" package but i dont want X server start at boot up. i want to start my server manullay when i need it. is there anyhow i can do that?
[12:12] <drh> gr
[12:13] <drh> ubuntu is great the way it runs 'out of the box'
[12:13] <nexiv> how do i stop having to enter a password everytime i reboot to connect to my network
[12:13] <drh> im just having alot of problems with displaying ascii art properly in my console... or in x-windows
[12:13] <pumpkin_> using 8.10: what is the best vpn-client for a cisco based vpn network? i tried the ciscoclient, but it disconnect at random times and with random errors...
[12:14] <sleepy_cat> any sites authenticated by Equifax
[12:14] <oskar-> !best | pumpkin_
[12:14] <pumpkin_> oskar-, ok, the one that does not crash and does not cause kernel paniks...
[12:15] <oskar-> pumpkin_:  hm, just wanted to try ;-)  i think vpnc is ok
[12:15] <aprilhare> ziroday, actionparsnip: where do i go from here? download manually or something?
[12:16] <ziroday> aprilhare: you can try the .deb files from www.openoffice.org, or you can wait until the repo gets fixed
[12:16] <paul68> hi I use this script to run my iptables http://paste.ubuntu.com/76757/ however I get these errors anyone an Idea how to solve them? the 1st: Unknown arg `--syn'  and the second based on this rule /sbin/iptables -A FORWARD -i eth1 -o eth0 -s <IP_ADDRESS>/25 -m tcp --dport 110 -j ACCEPT  iptables: Invalid argument
[12:16] <oskar-> paul68:  add "-p tcp" to the command, you get "Invalid argument" for
[12:16] <joaopinto> aprilhare, there is a repository for ooo3, if you are using intrepid
[12:16] <ziroday> joaopinto: it is currentely not working.
[12:17] <onats> has anyone fixed the ubuntu 8.10 nvidia problem here?
[12:17] <aprilhare> joaopinto, i think thats what i'm stuck on :) it seems to be down.
[12:17] <onats> im still running on 1024x768. so hard to code!
[12:17] <onats> !nvidia
[12:18] <sleepy_cat> Hi do u guys know any sites authenticated by Equifax except Yahoo
[12:18] <dsdeiz> hi may i ask how to install flash player in ubuntu?
[12:18] <ziroday> !flash | dsdeiz
[12:18] <dsdeiz> thanks :)
[12:19] <tommyd> Slart: I found this: http://hirion.info/blog/archives/3-Von-Debian-zu-Ubuntu-upgraden.html - I guess I can't do any better ATM but try this
[12:19] <nexiv> how do i stop network manager asking for password everytime i reboot
[12:19] <paul68> oskar-: thanks any thoughts about the "--syn" part?
[12:19] <oskar-> paul68:  hm, no...
[12:19] <enquest> somebody good at inlineformset_factory ?
[12:20] <Slart> tommyd: well.. make a backup and give it a try.. if it doesn't work you're looking at a reinstall anyway
[12:20] <oskar-> paul68:  for me it works
[12:20] <temppy> aprilhare: https://launchpad.net/~openoffice-pkgs/+archive
[12:20] <ziroday> temppy: the repo is not working.
[12:20] <woody86> does anyone know where I can find a default sources file? Mine's messed up after a clean install??
[12:20] <marcelo__> does anyone know in which package the tramp mode is found for emacs-snapshot-gtk on ubuntu?
[12:20] <ziroday> woody86: /etc/apt/sources.list
[12:20] <temppy> ziroday: whats not working about it?
[12:20] <ziroday> temppy: the packages are not appearing
[12:21] <temppy> ziroday: hmm, weird, I think launchpad is bugging out
[12:22] <temppy> ziroday: I just ran into another bug
[12:22] <paul68> oskar-: can you paste a line with syn then I try to paste it on my side and see if its working
[12:22] <oskar-> paul68:  this should have the same effect as "--syn":  "--tcp-flags SYN SYN"
[12:23] <oskar-> paul68:  ah, i see: you have lines with "-p udp" and "--syn". udp is connectionless, there are no syn or ack flags
[12:23] <mHi_lie> fhfht
[12:23] <oskar-> paul68:  "--syn" is only valid, if you have "-p tcp" and only this protocol on the same line
[12:24] <woody86> are these the only sources activated by default:deb http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu intrepid partner
[12:24] <woody86> deb-src http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu intrepid partner
[12:24]  * NicEXE is away: I'm busy
[12:24] <temppy> woody86: are you running gnome/ubuntu?
[12:24] <lagann_> yeryry, maybe you can try sudo apt-cache search vnc server on the terminal
[12:24] <oskar-> paul68:  simply remove "--syn" where you have "-p udp"
[12:24] <woody86> temppy yup
[12:25] <temppy> woody86: if so, System > Administration > Software Sourcess
[12:25] <twins> hi there my beloved geeks ;x
[12:25] <twins> is SIP a UDP TCP or ICMP service ;?
[12:25] <yeryry> lagann_: I'm currently using "x11vnc", as that allows me to use the existing session.. but maybe a "normal" vnc would be faster..
[12:25] <oskar-> twins:  it should be a UDP service, but if it is??
[12:25] <paul68> oskar-: ok thanks going to give it a try
[12:25] <scuser> hi all, any help with that mpic++ compilation error "error: cannot call member function ‘virtual bool MPI::Request::Test()’ without object" ?
[12:25] <woody86> temppy, I tried that. but
[12:25] <twins> :) will know soon oskar- :) will try ;>
[12:26] <Slart> twins: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Session_Initiation_Protocol
[12:26] <oskar-> twins:  it's everything ;)
[12:26] <paul68> oskar-: how does this script look to you is it sufficient or do I need ot adapt more things?
[12:26] <aprilhare> will wait and try it another time. gunna go now :) bye and thanks for your help
[12:26] <lagann_> twins, it's all three
[12:27] <iamjay> hello, how can I bring ubuntus wpa_supplicant to the newest version with apt-get?
[12:27] <woody86> temppy - none of the packages i'm looking for are there
[12:27] <paul68> oskar-: purpose is to limit a range of ips only access to internet and mail no irc or what so ever and the known ips have full access
[12:27] <iamjay> e.g. devel build, or 0.6.x at least
[12:27] <twins> yup :) got that ;) thank you for the link :)
[12:28] <lagann_> woody86, what packages are you looking for?
[12:28] <temppy> woody86: I  don't follow, sorry
[12:28] <dsdeiz> i have installed  flashplugin-nonfree already although videos in youtube still don't work
[12:28] <ActionParsnip> dsdeiz: are you running 64bit?
[12:28] <lagann_> dsdeiz, did you restart your firefox or are you running 64 bit?
[12:28] <dsdeiz> not running 64bit
[12:29] <Slart> dsdeiz: "don't work".. you mean they are playing upside down? inversed.. sound is backwards? shows other movies?..
[12:29] <iamjay> can ne1 tell me how to upgrade wpa_supplicant to the newest >0.6.x version?
[12:29] <dsdeiz> they are not playing. it tells me to download the flash plugin
[12:29] <woody86> lagann - bootchart, startup-manager, deborphan... quite a few
[12:29] <skenmon> hi
[12:30] <lagann_> woody86, open a terminal and type: sudo apt-cache search <package>
[12:30] <Slart> dsdeiz: do you get the "search for plugin" dialog thingy? or is "it" the youtube webpage?
[12:30] <ActionParsnip> dsdeiz: sudo apt-get remove flashplugin-nonfree; sudo apt-get clean; sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[12:30] <dsdeiz> i get the search for plugin thingy
[12:30] <oskar-> paul68:  with drop policies and only allowing necessary traffic it looks like a good solution
[12:31] <paul68> oskar-: thanks for your advice
[12:31] <Slart> dsdeiz: what happens if you try to install the flashplugin using that dialog?
[12:31] <oskar-> paul68:  but i haven't looked in detail. you seem to know, what you are doing and know your iptables rules best ;)
[12:31] <ardchoille> ActionParsnip: wouldn't that be the same thing as "sudo apt-get install --reinstall"?
[12:31] <dsdeiz> downloads the .deb file if i remembered correctly
[12:31] <woody86> lagann_  ok, it listed a description of it
[12:31] <edvard> Any way to enable desktop effects without installing the propriatery nvidia drivers? The nvidia drivers screw up my Office 2007 installation..
[12:31] <oskar-> paul68:  "--dport 443322" << hmm ;)
[12:31] <joe_> iv lost my windows navagation in gos?
[12:32] <ActionParsnip> ardchoille: i use apt-get clean to remove the previously downloaded deb, forcing a fresh download :D
[12:32] <edvard> so im running without the nvidia drivers activated, but then things are a bit choppy as animations and such arent enabled
[12:32] <ardchoille> ActionParsnip: Ah, that works
[12:33] <ActionParsnip> dsdeiz: here's what i used to get the new 64bit flash plugin: http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/install-flash-10-ubuntu-linux-64bit.html
[12:33] <oskar-> edvard:  if you do not use the "nvidia" driver, then "nv" driver will likely be used. it has no 3d acceleration, afaik
[12:34] <edvard> yeah, ive tried forcing the "nv" driver and no desktop effects can be enabled... but are there no other alternatives to the Nvidia drivers that come with Ubuntu? As they make my Office 2007 installation (through Crossover) unusable
[12:34] <ActionParsnip> edvard: tried envyng-qt?
[12:34] <oskar-> edvard:  yes, "vesa" and maybe more, but all without 3d support for proprietary nvidia cards
[12:34] <edvard> ive tried installing the nvidia drivers using envyng.. dunno if there are several variations or what?
[12:34] <ButterflyOfFire> hi everybody and hi smurf
[12:34] <iamjay> how can I install the unstable version from wpasupplicnat on ubuntu, can any1 help me?
[12:35] <W8TAH> can someone tell me what in the world the console-kit-daemon is and more importantly why it was chewing up 50% of my processor time last night before i killed it????
[12:35] <ikonia> iamjay pardon ?
[12:35] <ActionParsnip> edvard: sudo apt-get install envyng-gtk && gksudo envyng-gtk
[12:35] <ButterflyOfFire> smurf, could we get a LoCobot in #ubuntu-dz ?
[12:35] <edvard> im on a GeForce 9600m GT (laptop video card) which is rather new, so I am suspecting maybe that to be the cause of my troubles with Office..
[12:35] <edvard> yeah, i installed envyng-gtk and installed the nvidia drivers through the terminal thingie... but after the reboot, Office was slow again
[12:36] <ActionParsnip> edvard: does everything else run ok?
[12:36] <iamjay> ikonia, well I'm currently using 0.5.4 and its having some problems, so I want to upgrade to 0.6.x
[12:36] <iamjay> how'd I do that?
[12:36] <ikonia> iamjay is there a package for 0.6 ? and do you know 0.6 will fix your issues ?
[12:36] <edvard> yeah
[12:36] <edvard> I think so..
[12:36] <iamjay> ikonia, there is, and yes it does :)
[12:36] <ikonia> iamjay then install it
[12:36] <iamjay> Im using gentoo at home, never really used ubuntu, just try to set up pc for a buddy
[12:37] <edvard> but Ive tried everything with Crossover.. Tried reformating and re-installing Ubuntu, tried two versions of Office 2007, and who knows what
[12:37] <iamjay> well ikonia, sudo apt-get install wpasupplicant only gives me 0.5.4 and says latest is installed
[12:37] <oskar-> cool, another gentoo user ;)
[12:37] <ActionParsnip> edvard: then its not an ubuntu problem per-se, contact crossover office as you have full support from them and they will be able to assist with configuring MS office better
[12:37] <edvard> but the best thing would be to get Offiec 2007 working with the nvidia drivers..
[12:37] <iamjay> oskar-, lets take overrrrrrrr! :D
[12:37] <ikonia> iamjay so there is not a package for it then
[12:37] <edvard> yeah, well, Codeweavers doesnt seem to know whats wrong
[12:37] <iamjay> ikonia, so I need to build from sources?
[12:38] <edvard> so.. well.. yeah, if anyone has any experience using Crossover here or something, any advice or suggestions are very welcome
[12:38] <ikonia> iamjay: yes, you need to build your own deb, to make sure the package managers dependency tree stays updated
[12:38] <ActionParsnip> edvard: ive never used office 2007, OOo does me fine, plus its about 2Gb smaller then MS office
[12:38] <edvard> heh, yeah, but I need to use the OpenXML format
[12:38] <ActionParsnip> edvard: any joy with web searches?
[12:39] <edvard> and OOo just doesnt handle it good enough
[12:39] <edvard> nah, been googling my ass of for weeks
[12:39] <edvard> I've almost nailed it down to just my bad luck.. :P
[12:39] <diegoe> edvard: didn't novell had compatibility plugins for that?
[12:39] <jim_p> can i somehow change the "layout" of k3b? i want in into 2 columns instead of 2 rows
[12:39] <cib0> is there any reason i can only seem to find documentation on how to use VMWare(which looks very untrusthworthy) to emulate windows and not virtual box? is virtual box not capable of it, or does it suck at emulating windows or does it suck on linux?
[12:39] <edvard> but the problem exist only when the Nvidia drivers are activated.. the Desktop effects can be deativated, it doesnt matter..
[12:40] <edvard> diegoe , what you mean?
[12:40] <ActionParsnip> edvard: http://www.sheehanmiles.com/Office2007_Under_Wine_Crossover.html
[12:40] <diegoe> edvard: regarding your oo2k7 trauma
[12:40] <Slart> cib0: virtualbox works nicely for emulating windows/linux or whatever
[12:40] <paul4605> oskar-: the port used is adapted tso thats not an issue
[12:41] <edvard> not sure I understand you diegoe..
[12:41] <ActionParsnip> edvard: http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=4992
[12:42] <ActionParsnip> edvard: gets a GOLD rating in wine
[12:42] <edvard> thanks for the link ActionParsnip, but didnt find anything adressing my issues as the newest version of CrossOver actually has great support Office 2007 and installation is a breeze..
[12:42] <ActionParsnip> edvard: http://www.wine-reviews.net/microsoft/office-2007-on-linux-with-wine-install-guide.html
[12:42] <cib0> Slart: ok, that's good =) so why would anyone prefer a proprietory, highly commercial tool over that?
[12:42] <sleepy_cat> any sites authenticated by Equifax
[12:43] <Slart> cib0: I don't know really.. there might be some features only available in one or the other
[12:43] <ikonia> sleepy_cat thats offtopic in here
[12:43] <ActionParsnip> edvard: the last link is most useful
[12:43] <Slart> !vm
[12:43] <edvard> thanks again, but as I said, installing and running is problem free. It works great, untill I activate the nvidia drivers..
[12:43] <edvard> Ive read that one before though, but thank you :)
[12:43] <edvard> I have Crossover Office ;)
[12:43] <ActionParsnip> edvard: maybe theres some config or a step or 2 you could add to make it smoother
[12:44] <edvard> yeah, Ive been searching and looking, but the fact is that it runs really smooth without the nvidia drivers, but after they are activated it all lags up. Have been trying to find relevant settings in both Crossover, Office and Nvidia
[12:44] <oskar-> i also got the tip to use VirtualBox here, and i am very happy with it
[12:44] <ActionParsnip> edvard: are you running compiz
[12:44] <onats> ubuntu 8.10 and nvidia problems anyone?
[12:44] <gabx> good day! i'm using fluxbox as my WM, and i got a small question, what is Mouse1top set to for normal function in ~/.fluxbox/keys ? mine is not working
[12:45] <edvard> no compiz here :)
[12:45] <edvard> just a fresh install of Ubuntu
[12:45] <ActionParsnip> edvard: good
[12:45] <edvard> :)
[12:45] <ActionParsnip> gabx: ask in #fluxbox
[12:45] <gabx> they are idle ;)
[12:45] <ActionParsnip> gabx: very common :(
[12:45] <edvard> dont need that many effects and what not, but would be nice to have at least some of the desktop effects, just to make it feel good
[12:45] <JonathanEllis> Hi. Can someone help me please? I am having problems trying to setup twin monitors in Ubuntu using separate graphics adaptors. I am following http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=221174 and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1773624. I am working one step at a time to isolate problems so I have only got as far as adding the BusID to the first graphics adaptor and already X won't start. The results of lspci | grep VGA, my xorg.conf and the
[12:45] <gabx> ActionParsnip: indeed ;) you got any clue ?
[12:46] <onats> edvard, is your nvidia card working on 8.10?
[12:46] <cib0> Slart: hm, ok, virtualbox seems to do all i need, if it can emulate windows properly, that is, thanks
[12:46] <ActionParsnip> gabx: http://darkshed.net/files/rcs/fluxbox/keys.html
[12:46] <Slart> cib0: you're welcome
[12:46] <edvard> I reckon its working fine, as I can enable desktop effects and such.. but the moment I enable the drivers, Office 2007 through Crossover Office runs slooow
[12:46] <gabx> ActionParsnip: thx, can't mark and copy hehe, will type it.. thx
[12:46] <ActionParsnip> gabx: http://static.gpicon.org/code/fluxbox-keys.html
[12:46] <edvard> without the drivers activated, Office 2007 runs perfectly...
[12:47] <onats> edvard, what's your card ,ubuntu version, and driver?
[12:47] <ActionParsnip> edvard: then disable while you run MS officebloatware, then re-enable after is all i can suggest til codeweavers get a solution to you
[12:47] <JonathanEllis> ikonia: Do you have time to look at this for me? I am having problems trying to setup twin monitors in Ubuntu using separate graphics adaptors. I am following http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=221174 and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1773624. I am working one step at a time to isolate problems so I have only got as far as adding the BusID to the first graphics adaptor and already X won't start. The results of lspci | grep VGA, my x
[12:48] <edvard> running Ubuntu 8.10 x86 on a Acer 5930G with a Nvidia GeForce 9600m GT..
[12:48] <jim_p> can i somehow change the "layout" of k3b? i want in into 2 columns instead of 2 rows
[12:49] <edvard> an ActionParsnip, I would do that, but I have to reboot between driver activation/deactivation.. which is kinda troublesome
[12:49] <ActionParsnip> edvard: did you install acerhk or acer_acpi module
[12:49] <edvard> no, that I havent..
[12:49] <edvard> what do they do?
[12:49] <ActionParsnip> edvard: you wouldnt, just edit xorg.conf, change the driver line, then restart x
[12:49] <ActionParsnip> edvard: acer use proprietary power management, some dude has written the module to make it work properly
[12:50] <paul4605> oskar-: the port is already a *modified* one so thats not an issue
[12:50] <ActionParsnip> edvard: its one of the reasons I hate acer as much as i hate apple
[12:50] <edvard> i can edit xorg.conf, but how do you restart x? I reckon the acer_acpi module woulndt affect the graphics or visuals?
[12:50] <oskar-> paul4605:  ok
[12:51] <paul4605> oskar-: I get now an error message on this line /sbin/iptables -A FORWARD -i eth1 -o eth0 -s <IP_ADDRESS>/25 -m -p tcp --dport 110 -j ACCEPT  => iptables v1.4.0: Couldn't load match `-p':/lib/iptables/libipt_-p.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory  any ideas?
[12:51] <ActionParsnip> edvard: it may, to restart x press ctrl+alt+backspace (save any work before doing so)
[12:51]  * Mustinet`aFk cya!
[12:52] <JonathanEllis> Has anyone succeeded in setting up twin screens on separate graphics cards
[12:53] <edvard> i just change the line "driver = "nv"" to "driver = "nvidia" ?
[12:53] <ActionParsnip> JonathanEllis: afaik you need to setup 2 screens in xorg.conf
[12:53] <JonathanEllis> ActionParsnip: Thats what I am trying to do
[12:53] <jim_p> can i somehow change the "layout" of k3b? i want in into 2 columns instead of 2 rows
[12:54] <Nebelwolfi> lol
[12:54] <Nebelwolfi> just one operator O_O
[12:54] <ActionParsnip> JonathanEllis: if you look in the screen section you will see the devices are bound together to make a single screen, you will need 2 of these
[12:54] <ActionParsnip> JonathanEllis: http://blog.plek.org/2008/04/multiple-monitors-with-nvidia-graphics.html
[12:54] <Lynx_> Can I somehow get the various audio drivers back to a standard state? I did this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=789578, and now Amarok won't run anymore, it crashes upon starting...
[12:55] <edvard> thanks for the help..
[12:55] <edvard> will install acerhk and acer_api and see if it helps
[12:55] <JonathanEllis> ActionParsnip: I am not using an nvidia card but two separate cards. I have shown the steps I have followed at http://pastebin.com/m34028dec
[12:55] <oskar-> paul4605:  write "-m tcp -p tcp"
[12:55] <edvard> ot says "acer_acpi is now shipped with Ubuntu".. but cant find it in the Package Manager?
[12:55] <yeryry> oskar-: I got xrdp going, but its basically a rdp to vnc gateway, and isn't really any faster than vnc itself..
[12:56] <iamjay> is there any way to get wpasupplicant to 0.6.x version besides building from sources, because I get some weird error messages concerning openssl there?!
[12:56] <oskar-> yeryry:  ok, thanks for that feedback, so it isn't worth trying, is it?
[12:57] <titusg> I'm having trouble finding a unicode monospaced font that will display *all* math characters -- I've been usinf Freemono but some symbols seem to be missing. Any tips?
[12:57] <ActionParsnip> JonathanEllis: http://www.linux.com/articles/113516
[12:57] <paul4605> oskar-: ok thanks trying brb
[12:57] <ActionParsnip> JonathanEllis: this has some nice xorg.conf snippets you can use
[12:57] <oskar-> iamjay:  openssl errors at compile time?
[12:58] <JonathanEllis> ActionParsnip: Yesterday I tried following all the steps from http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1773624 but then X server couldnt start properly and it tried to fix it - thus destroying everything I had done. So now I am working one step at a time to try to find what is causing the problem
[12:58] <iamjay> yeah compiling gives me errors... dont know why, doesnt matter if I chose openssl, gnutls, I dont know :(
[12:58] <ActionParsnip> JonathanEllis: best way. Id try get one card and one monitor working then add the other
[12:59] <JonathanEllis> ActionParsnip: Well, the first card works fine until I add the BusID statement and then X wont start
[12:59] <JonathanEllis> ActionParsnip: So basically I do the first step and it falls over
[13:00] <jim_p> can i somehow change the "layout" of k3b? i want in into 2 columns instead of 2 rows
[13:00] <edvard> where can I find the acer_api for Ubuntu 8.10? the link I had says it was already included in Ubuntu 8.04?
[13:00] <oskar-> iamjay:  i remember something like that, but might have been in another similar program. openssl-dev packages are installed?
[13:00] <krupa^> hello all! hey, anyone knows where i can get a script that checks a structure of mysql tables and sync between them? ... thanks!
[13:00] <ActionParsnip> edvard: thats cool then
[13:01] <edvard> so its already implemented then?
[13:01] <yeryry> oskar-: it could be very useful in some circumstances, but not to me right now I don't think.. I think perhaps some of my slowness is due to using the "fake vnc" of x11vnc, and maybe using "true" vnc would be faster.. but I need to keep the same session between logins....
[13:01] <ActionParsnip> edvard: apparently
[13:01] <edvard> oh well..
[13:01] <edvard> installed the acerhk thingie..
[13:01] <iamjay> oskar-, theres no package openssl-dev :(((
[13:01] <edvard> gonna try to restart x-server now.. after installing the nvidia drivers again
[13:01] <edvard> brb
[13:02] <oskar-> krupa^:  afaik, this is called replication and perhaps already a feature inside many sql servers
[13:02] <oskar-> iamjay:  what about libssl-dev? ;)
[13:03] <krupa^> its can be working with 2 diffrent mysql servers on diffrent locations ?
[13:03] <oskar-> krupa^:  as i understand it, yes
[13:03] <djzhan> hello,every. I found that my gcc binutils and glibc is too new too compile lfs. How can I deal with it?
[13:03] <jim_p> can i somehow change the "layout" of k3b? i want in into 2 columns instead of 2 rows
[13:04] <djzhan> hello,every. I found that my gcc binutils and glibc is too new too compile lfs. How can I deal with it?
[13:04] <oskar-> krupa^:  http://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/5.0/en/replication.html
[13:05] <yeat> hello there
[13:06] <iamjay> oskar-, that worked thank you
[13:07] <JonathanEllis> ActionParsnip: Thanks for that last link. I didnt realise I had to convert the BusID format. Now I have one screen.
[13:07] <oskar-> iamjay:  very good
[13:07] <ndlovu> does anyone know how to set vim to auto-save a document automatically?
[13:07] <ActionParsnip> JonathanEllis: simple websearch
[13:07] <paul68> oskar-: thanks for your help no errors found :-)
[13:08] <JonathanEllis> ActionParsnip: Yes, but the documents I found didnt mention that step
[13:08] <JonathanEllis> ActionParsnip: Or if they did I dint notice
[13:08] <ActionParsnip> JonathanEllis: well its good now, so add your xorg.conf to your nightly backup and you have no problems for future setups
[13:09] <JonathanEllis> ActionParsnip: I wouldnt go that far. I have simply managed to get past step one! There are many more steps
[13:09] <JonathanEllis> ActionParsnip: But at least the BusID statement is not screwing it up now
[13:09] <selkies> guys i jus did a backup of ubuntu 8.10 and ended up getting the backup file "backup.tgz" at Filesystem drive not under the home as i was expecting.. now i can delete the backup file as it says i am not the owner but root is...  help
[13:10] <ActionParsnip> JonathanEllis: well create a backup of the current file so you can roll back to where you are now if something goes wrong
[13:10] <JonathanEllis> ActionParsnip: Have done already
[13:10] <selkies> sorry i meant i can't delete the backup file
[13:10] <ActionParsnip> JonathanEllis: smooth move
[13:11] <oskar-> selkies:  to act as root, put a "sudo" in front of shell commands, here: "sudo rm <file>"   but beware, root has all power!
[13:11] <bri-h> selkies: sudo rm -f filename should get rie of it
[13:11] <selkies> but how come it ended up at the filesystem??
[13:11] <ndlovu> I've seen this tip on vim.wikia.com: put ":au FocusLost * :wa" in vimrc, but would that only work for gvim?
[13:12] <oskar-> selkies:  where if not in the filesystem should a file reside?
[13:12] <jrib> ndlovu: you may want to try #vim
[13:12] <selkies> i mean it usually goes to home rite where i could delete it anytime
[13:13] <selkies> not it say root is the owner
[13:13] <ndlovu> thanks, jrib, IRC has everything :)
[13:13] <selkies> is there a way to delete it coz its simply occupying 5 Gbs
[13:14] <xylaur> I upgraded from server 8.04 to 8.10.  However, in the process the lvm.conf file was overwritten.  This means that my LVM volumes are not available.  The disk slice is still there and labeled as an LVM partion. Using pvcreate with the --restorefile and --uuid options does not work.  What else can someone suggest.  Thanks
[13:14] <bri-h> selkies: I take it you're not familiar with the command line?
[13:15] <bri-h> selkies: If you open a terminal, and type sudo rm -f <filename> that will get rid of it.
[13:15] <oskar-> selkies:  open a terminal window, type: "sudo rm -f /path/to/file", where the latter is the full patch to the file
[13:15] <ActionParsnip> !terminal | selkies
[13:15] <selkies> ok
[13:16] <selkies> let me check it ..
[13:17] <Tryfon> hi guys any channel that specifies in process schedueling? or any one here?
[13:18] <selkies> guys i wrote "sudo rm -f backup,tgz"
[13:18] <selkies> the file still there
[13:18] <beli> argl
[13:18] <edvard> Quick question, is it possible to have desktop effects (under System --> Preferences --> Apparance) if I remove Compiz?
[13:18] <oskar-> selkies:  type: "sudo rm -f /path/to/file", where the latter is the full patch to the file
[13:18] <ActionParsnip> try sudo rm -f backup.tgz
[13:18] <beli> backup.tgz
[13:19] <ActionParsnip> selkies: you have a , instead of .
[13:19] <oskar-> selkies:  you have to be very exact in shell
[13:19] <pawan1> how to open rar fils
[13:19] <ActionParsnip> selkies: its also CasE SEnsiTIvE
[13:19] <pawan1> files
[13:19] <jitu3485> if the command is quite long in the terminal it overwrites the prompt itself , how to make it to come to next line?
[13:19] <ActionParsnip> !rar | pawan1
[13:20] <pawan1> how to install rar utility
[13:20] <bouma> do i need gpt partition table ? will i be able to access it from xp ?
[13:20] <ActionParsnip> pawan1: its there for you, read the link
[13:20] <Fougner> pawan1, sudo apt-get install rar unrar
[13:20] <xylaur> Anybody there that is familiar with LVM???
[13:21] <titusg> Freeserif has all the unicode symbols I need but Freemono doesn't - how to find a monospaced font with all math symbols?
[13:21] <bouma> xylaur: hey im also trying to find out about partition table schemes
[13:21] <edvard> anyone? would completly removing Compiz mean that I cannot use any desktop effects at all?
[13:21] <edvard> so no more transparent smooth terminal windows, etc?
[13:21] <edvard> under "System --> Preferences --> Apparance --> Desktop effects"?
[13:22] <bouma> xylaur: so is it LVM2? vs old msdos style ? or what ..
[13:22] <ActionParsnip> pawan1: we have those factoids so we dont have to type the same stuff over and over again. Ive lost count of the number of times people have asked about decompressing .rar files but its all there so we dont have to repeat ourselves
[13:22] <GNuBoi> which version of xchat r using guys
[13:23] <xnv> GNuBoi: Versions of xchat are using guys?
[13:23]  * xnv apologizes.
[13:24] <GNuBoi> xnv which is latest version in ubuntu repo
[13:24] <onats> how do i stop gdm completely?
[13:24] <ardchoille> GNuBoi: xchat 2.8.6 for Ubuntu 8.10
[13:24] <ActionParsnip> onats: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[13:24] <ardchoille> onats: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[13:24] <onats> thanks!
[13:25] <xylaur> It is LVM2
[13:26] <edvard> ActionParsnip, I think I have nailed my problem with Office 2007 and crossover under Ubuntu to Compiz, not the nvidia drivers themselves, as I wasnt aware of compiz being installed by default
[13:26] <nomingzi> can you please some link on how to install VMware Server 2.0 onto Ubuntu Desktop 8.10 x64/AMD64
[13:26] <spazzpp2> hi. have you got the same pain in the ass issue with Flash-nonfree and firefox on a 64bit machine? Everytime I close a tab with Flash running, firefox freezes and uses 100% of my 1.6GHz Core2 Duo
[13:27] <Patry> hola
[13:27] <Patry> no hay nadie
[13:27] <keystr0k> I am having some issues with choppy audio playback and process using more CPU than seems necessary. I know it's not much to go on, but does anyone have any troubleshooting suggestions?
[13:27] <keystr0k> s/process/processes
[13:27] <Patry> nadie español
[13:28] <ardchoille> !es | Patry
[13:28] <scuser> hi all, any help with that mpic++ compilation error "error: cannot call member function ‘virtual bool MPI::Request::Test()’ without object" ?
[13:28] <Patry> ubottu como lo hago
[13:29] <Patry> ubottu,  no se como estrar en canal español
[13:31] <remoteCTR2> i get a "login failed" message when trying to login to kubuntu's kde but password and username are correct as i can login on any tty, any ideas please?
[13:32] <ardchoille> remoteCTR2: Perhaps ask in #kubuntu
[13:32] <joelpet> is there any way to lock which channel network manager uses to connect to a wlan?
[13:33] <oskar-> joelpet:  with iwconfig
[13:33] <b33r> remoteCTR2, have you tried changing the pass and see if that works?
[13:33] <remoteCTR2> ardchoille: good point...
[13:33] <InfectedWithDrew> I've been submitting bug reports to Launchpad but they always get taken down because I don't have a .crash file uploaded to them.  But in the automatic email replies that say I don't have them, they tell me to go to /var/crash and click on the file I'd like to submit.  Except the problem is that there are never any files there
[13:34] <biouser> how can I find my modem's IP?
[13:34] <oskar-> biouser:  with ifconfig+
[13:34] <oskar-> biouser:  sorry, with ifconfig
[13:34] <InfectedWithDrew> biouser, modems are usually assigned <IP_ADDRESS>
[13:35] <GabrieL> <IP_ADDRESS>
[13:35] <GabrieL> i agree
[13:35] <joelpet> oskar-: is there any way to do it autimatically in network-manager?
[13:35] <biouser> I mean so that I can log on to the built-in webserver
[13:35] <oskar-> that would be a strange ip. never seen that...
[13:35] <edvard> Anyone good with configuring Compiz here? :)
[13:35] <biouser> in the modem
[13:35] <javaJake> It seems xorg.conf isn't set up to support Desktop Effects by default
[13:35] <edvard> <IP_ADDRESS> is a network mask of a class C network
[13:36] <oskar-> joelpet:  i don't know
[13:36] <javaJake> Anyone know what's needed? This new configuration system (and lack of documentation) is frustrating.
[13:36] <scuser> hi all, is there an MPI_Test(..) equivalent function for c++ ?
[13:36] <exco> is fglrx already working with the new 2.6.27-10 kernel?
[13:36] <ardchoille> edvard: I just installed it and set it up, #compiz-fusion has been a huge help.
[13:36] <joelpet> oskar-: ok, thx
[13:36] <biouser> <IP_ADDRESS> is not where I can direct browser to get into modem :(
[13:37] <oskar-> biouser:  it is not an ip. that's why
[13:37] <InfectedWithDrew> Repeating my problem: my launchpad bugs are being deleted because I don't have .crash files, but my /var/crash directory is always empty (and I did enable viewing of hidden files).
[13:37] <biouser> so how to find the IP of my modem to log into?
[13:37] <oskar-> biouser:  connect your computer to the modem, with dhcp enabled. then you might get an ip address from it, that is in the correct logical ip network
[13:37] <edvard> cuz, I am using Office 2007 in Ubuntu through Wine Crossover, and thing is that menu items and such are rendered technically like separate windows somehow.. Problem is that Compiz has some kind of delay animation in rendering windows, so moving the mouse from one button to another results in a signifcant lag.. making using Office kinda difficult
[13:38] <biouser> oskar-, I am already behind a router
[13:38] <edvard> so either, I have to completely remove Compiz, or manage to configure it in such a way that I can disable that exact feature
[13:38] <oskar-> biouser:  are modem and router the same?
[13:38] <edvard> no
[13:39] <biouser> oskar-, no, I know the IP of the router and can log into that
[13:39] <biouser> I just forget what the IP of modem is
[13:39] <edvard> firstly, <IP_ADDRESS> is a class C (or was it class A) network mask and not the gateway IP
[13:39] <javaJake> Anyone know where I might find documentation on getting Desktop Effects set up?
[13:39] <edvard> if your modem connected to your router then, or?
[13:39] <edvard> is*
[13:39] <OpenBSDRulzs> !compiz | javaJake
[13:39] <biouser> modem -> router -> comps
[13:41] <ActionParsnip> biouser: the router will tell you the routers ip
[13:41] <ActionParsnip> *modems ip
[13:41] <vladtsepesh1984> hi guys i'm new to ubuntu....how can i install flash player to correctly load web page in firefox?
[13:41] <javaJake> OpenBSDRulzs: OK, well, since that doesn't catch my particular problem, I assume I should file a bug report stating that the installer didn't correctly configure my video card :P
[13:41] <violinappren> hi all, do i find which graphics driver i'm using?
[13:41] <InfectedWithDrew> vladtsepesh1984, try going to Adobe's site and downloading the .deb package and installing that.
[13:41] <OpenBSDRulzs> !flash | vladtsepesh1984
[13:42] <b33r> vladtsepesh1984, sudo apt-get install flash-nonfree
[13:42] <ardchoille> sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[13:42] <OpenBSDRulzs> javaJake: It will catch your problem, just read the linl
[13:42] <hischild> what program can i use to open up a graphical screen from command line?
[13:42] <biouser> WAN IP is not it :'(
[13:43] <biouser> ah, default gateway
[13:43] <biouser> xxx.xxx.x.254
[13:43] <chfwiggum> !FindKDE4Internal.cmake
[13:44] <OpenBSDRulzs> hischild: /etc/init.d/<login manager> start, where <login manager> is a login manager
[13:44] <OpenBSDRulzs> hischild: like xdm
[13:44] <Novanet1> hi all, how i can do reconnect in pppd
[13:44] <biouser> okay, going down ;)
[13:45] <hischild> OpenBSDRulzs, not that kinda screen, just a screen that i can customize via command line ... need it to warn me when certain conditions are met, and i got the script for it ... now i need a program to do the graphical stuff for me
[13:45] <AbortD> yeah she wants a pickle
[13:45] <AbortD> PICKLE
[13:45] <vladtsepesh1984> thanks!!!!! it works!!!!
[13:45] <LjL> AbortD: ...?
[13:45] <AbortD> sorry
[13:45] <ardchoille> hischild: sounds like you want zenity
[13:45] <javaJake> OpenBSDRulzs: read the "line" you mean?
[13:45] <hischild> ardchoille, yes! thank you!
[13:45] <InfectedWithDrew> vladtsepesh1984, which approach worked?
[13:45] <AbortD> my irc does that when i come back from away
[13:45] <ardchoille> yw :)
[13:45] <OpenBSDRulzs> javaJake: read the "link" :)
[13:46] <myk_robinson> hey. Using Intrepid Ibex, Evolution will not play a sound when new mail is received, even though I have that option marked and a sound selected. Any ideas?
[13:46] <Razgriz> Anybody use fluxbox here?
[13:46] <OpenBSDRulzs> Razgriz: I do.
[13:46] <Fezzler1> I need to boot from live CD but don't see that as an option on the LiveCd
[13:46] <InfectedWithDrew> myk_robinson, have you had any other problems with sound?
[13:46] <vladtsepesh1984> install flashplayer from synaptic
[13:46] <javaJake> OpenBSDRulzs: no, it doesn't do anything for me. Compiz says the hardware doesn't support Xgl (but I know it works because it worked in Feisty...)
[13:47] <Fezzler1> I see Install...  Check CD...  Rescue.... Test memory....   Boot from first hard disk   How do I boot from CD
[13:47] <myk_robinson> InfectedWithDrew: no
[13:47] <Razgriz> ....
[13:47] <javaJake> OpenBSDRulzs: no, the composite extension
[13:47] <oskar-> Fezzler1:  "Install"
[13:47] <javaJake> OpenBSDRulzs: that's what it can't find
[13:47] <orangey> hey all!
[13:47] <OpenBSDRulzs> Fezzler1: "Start or install Ubuntu"
[13:47] <orangey> How exactly do I configure suspend in Hardy?
[13:47] <Razgriz> Any body know ho to make the windows on Fluxbox transparent?
[13:47] <orangey> It used to be that /etc/default/acpi-support did something
[13:47] <orangey> but now it doesn't!
[13:47] <InfectedWithDrew> myk_robinson, then sorry, thought it might have been something with ALSA
[13:47] <Fezzler1> OpenBSDRulzs> Will that not try to install it on my Harddrive?
[13:48] <vladtsepesh1984> now i have another question....i have a msi motherboard and in winzoz i have a msi software to monitor the cpu and motherboard temerature...is there a program to do that in ubuntu???
[13:48] <javaJake> myk_robinson: do you have any other programs open that might use sound?
[13:48] <oskar-> Fezzler1:  not after you select some options. but while in the installation program you have ubuntu already running in memory and can repair things, for example
[13:48] <javaJake> myk_robinson: in particular, are there any Firefox windows open? (Flash often locks sound to itself)
[13:48] <myk_robinson> javaJake: you mean running at the same time? No, i am typically just browsing.
[13:48] <myk_robinson> i do have firefox open, no flash audio content
[13:48] <OpenBSDRulzs> javaJake: what version of ubuntu are you running? Fezzler1: no, it starts a desktop to let you try out Ubuntu.
[13:48] <imc_> hi, 8.10 on a HP 2230s centrino, wlan0 is there but I'm not being offered a list of available networks and when I try to sign on to a known one the password (the CORRECT one) fails. Any advice?
[13:49] <myk_robinson> it does this even if mail is the first thing i do
[13:49] <javaJake> OpenBSDRulzs: intrepid
[13:49] <myk_robinson> all other apps with sound work fine
[13:49] <oskar-> myk_robinson:  pulseaudio enabled?
[13:49] <Fezzler1> oskar-> So it is looking for my keyboard and detecting hardware
[13:49] <OpenBSDRulzs> javaJake: It worked with me on Gutsy.
[13:49] <myk_robinson> how do i check?
[13:49] <vladtsepesh1984> i have a msi motherboard and in winzoz i have a msi software to monitor the cpu and motherboard temerature...is there a program to do that in ubuntu???
[13:49] <niklaus> how can I have different wallpapers on my different desks?
[13:49] <javaJake> myk_robinson: can you hear test sounds in GNOME's Sound dialog?
[13:49] <orangey> I would like to figure out how to disable modules on suspend, for example.
[13:49] <myk_robinson> hang on, lemme check.
[13:49] <myk_robinson> sound works
[13:49] <OpenBSDRulzs> javaJake: try Gusty. It works for me, though outdated.
[13:50] <javaJake> myk_robinson, oskar-: pulseaudio is not required for this to work, and is a whole other project to set up :)
[13:50] <javaJake> OpenBSDRulzs: no thanks
[13:50] <InfectedWithDrew> vladtsepesh1984: If I understand you correctly, you can install WiNE and use that to run Windows software.
[13:50] <javaJake> OpenBSDRulzs: I got this working on a family PC, and everyone is settled. Can't just dump one version for another
[13:50] <vladtsepesh1984> ok but i hate wine....is there another linux native software to do that???
[13:50] <myk_robinson> javaJake: it actually worked fine in the beta. I did a clean install of the finished product and this is the only annoyance i have
[13:51] <InfectedWithDrew> vladtsepesh1984: No, you'd have to use VMWare to emulate an entire system to do that.
[13:51] <myk_robinson> vladtsepesh1984: you just need sensors?
[13:51] <Fezzler1> NOw it is trying to partition my HD...I just want to run from the CD
[13:51] <oskar-> Fezzler1:  do not select to format you hard drive and install ubuntu ;) if the installer has booted, you can switch to a terminal window or virtual console and do your work
[13:51] <vladtsepesh1984> yes i need software that comunicates with motherboard sensor
[13:51] <vladtsepesh1984> sensors
[13:51] <oskar-> vladtsepesh1984:  mbmon
[13:51] <myk_robinson> !lm-sensors
[13:52] <javaJake> myk_robinson: right.... well, Evolution is a GNOME application, and so it should use the GNOME system to reach your sound system. If the test sounds in GNOME Sound Preferences works, then something's up with Evolution.
[13:52] <OpenBSDRulzs> javaJake: file a report against xserver-xorg and report that "composite extension does not work on Interpid"
[13:52] <Fezzler1> oska
[13:52] <InfectedWithDrew> However, vladtsepesh1984, there are other pieces of Linux software that will monitor your system sensors.  I believe Conky provides a nice desktop HUD for that.
[13:52] <myk_robinson> vladtsepesh1984: check out lm-sensors
[13:52] <Fezzler1> oskar-> How?
[13:52] <oskar-> Fezzler1:  do NOT partition!!!
[13:52] <javaJake> OpenBSDRulzs: it's an xorg.conf thing (and thus we come full circle back to the lack of documentation)
[13:52] <vladtsepesh1984> thank you very much!!!!! i will try conky
[13:52] <imc_> Repeat post:] 8.10 on a HP 2230s centrino, wlan0 is there but I'm not being offered a list of available networks and when I try to sign on to a known one the password (the CORRECT one) fails. Any advice?
[13:52] <JonathanEllis> ActionParsnip: Hi again. I can get screen 0 working on its own but not screen 1 working on its own. I have shown the results of  lspci | grep VGA at http://pastebin.com/m662c43d, xorg.conf at http://pastebin.com/f75f72e71 and /var/log/Xorg.0.log at http://pastebin.com/f10a13899
[13:52] <myk_robinson> vladtsepesh1984: there are some nice graphical tie-ins in the package "screenlets" that will give you some eye candy-type visual indicators like gauges and such
[13:52] <Fezzler1> oskar-> I did not
[13:53] <OpenBSDRulzs> javaJake: xorg.conf man page should be added, do you agree?
[13:53] <ardchoille> vladtsepesh1984: There's also gkrellm
[13:53] <MrPink-> any Idea how I could get a grub Error 22 on a windows machine without having linux installed? -.-
[13:53] <myk_robinson> javaJake: I wonder if the plugin in evolution and the setting i have in the gnome sound preferences are fighting each other..
[13:53] <oskar-> Fezzler1:  do nothing in the installer! you wanted to boot from live cd, with whatever intention, you have now. if you do not know, what to do know except of installing, you should cancel and reboot
[13:53] <oskar-> :-)
[13:53] <milligan_> How can I check what ips are available to me in an ipv6 subnet ?
[13:53] <endo602> anyone have spdif working with xfi?
[13:54] <oskar-> Fezzler1:  i do not want to be responsible for wasting your hard drive ;-)
[13:54] <javaJake> myk_robinson: plugin?
[13:55] <Pici> MrPink-: You still have Grub installed to your MBR.  There are various windows tools for doing this, such as fixmbr from a windows recovery disc in XP and 2000.  ##windows can help you further with this.
[13:55] <myk_robinson> in Evolution, there is a plugin for incoming mail notification. i just turned off the sound there, but left it set in Gnome sound preferences. Sending myself a mail from a webmail app, will check Evolution now.
[13:55] <Fezzler1> Is there a difference between a LiveCD that I can run from and Install From?
[13:55] <JonathanEllis> ActionParsnip: Even when I comment out all references to the onboard video device and screen 0 and monitor 0 it still tries to use it. Any ideas?
[13:55] <myk_robinson> okay, that didnt work. Now i will try the inverse
[13:56] <MrPink-> Pici The problem is my harddrive is rreally messed up it seems :>
[13:56] <Pici> Fezzler1: What version of Ubuntu do you have on the CD? Where did you get it?
[13:56] <MrPink-> Pici I tried to reinstall Vista ( I know shame on me :D ) and the installation went fine, but when it tried to boot it still got that error
[13:56] <oskar-> Fezzler1:  no, should not be. in older ubuntu live cds you can select "run or install", in the 8.10 you have two different options, afaik
[13:57] <MrPink-> what is weird in the XP installation I am doing now it showed me my harddrive twice... the with ID=0 and whatever else it showed...
[13:57] <myk_robinson> javaJake: still no luck..
[13:58] <ActionParsnip> JonathanEllis: its not something ive ever setup, or will ever so im not much use here dude
[13:58] <JonathanEllis> ActionParsnip: OK. Thanks anyway
[13:58] <javaJake> myk_robinson: can you hear sounds in GNOME's Sound Preferences
[13:58] <myk_robinson> yes
[13:59] <Fezzler1> oskar-> I'm trying to use dd to clone my main hd and instructions say LiveCD should have a menu item "Try Ubuntu"  I don't have that
[13:59] <javaJake> myk_robinson: run this in a terminal: esdplay /usr/share/sounds/card_shuffle.wav
[14:00] <javaJake> myk_robinson: can you hear sound?
[14:00] <myk_robinson> yes
[14:00] <niklaus> how can I have several wallpapers on my various desks?
[14:00] <MrPink-> Pici I have XP installed now and it boots XP... but it only recognizes my 320 GB harddrive as 120 GB o.O
[14:01] <Pici> MrPink-: Sounds like a job for ##windows
[14:01] <javaJake> myk_robinson: ah, apparently this is a known issue: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=765994
[14:01] <imc_> some sound help please on 8.10 / HP 2230s, no sound at all]
[14:01] <imc_> after fresh install
[14:01] <ActionParsnip> MrPink-: not an ubuntu support question
[14:01] <ActionParsnip> imc_: run lspci to find out what sound card you have and then websearch from there
[14:01] <imc_> cool
[14:02] <Pici>
[14:02] <bernhard1> this forum is scrolling way to fast, no way you can have a proper conversation
[14:02] <myk_robinson> javaJake: at least I am not alone. Looks like the last comment on that thread is where I am. I have it set in both places, no luck
[14:02] <LSG> Anyone else having trouble with the Hp library updates lately?
[14:02] <bernhard1> maybe split up #ubuntu into 5 chat rooms?
[14:02] <ikonia> bernhard1:
[14:02] <ikonia> bernhard1: no
[14:03] <javaJake> myk_robinson: and it looks like a bug has been filed: right... did you check "Play alerts and sound affects" in the second tab in GNOME sound?
[14:03] <javaJake> myk_robinson: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/evolution/+bug/134214
[14:03] <myk_robinson> yes.
[14:03] <fbond> Hi, is it possible to do a distribution upgrade using an unofficial mirror?  I know this worked for me with Gutsy -> Hardy, but a friend had problems with Hardy -> Intrepid.
[14:04] <javaJake> myk_robinson: if you set it to system beep does it work?
[14:04] <myk_robinson> negative.
[14:04] <ActionParsnip> fbond: sure, but there is even less garuntee it will work when it comes back round
[14:04] <myk_robinson> or it may be way too quiet, as another poster noted
[14:04] <UnknownUser56> I overwrote the mbr and rebooted to check and it worked,being satisfied I shutdown the computer and went to sleep . Today while trying to boot to windows ( from the grub console ) it stops while in "GRUB Loading Stage2" and stops ,how come ?
[14:04] <javaJake> myk_robinson: right....
[14:05] <fbond> ActionParsnip: Like ... what?  If you don't know, just don't answer...
[14:05] <ActionParsnip> fbond: "like...what?" can you please clarify what you mean
[14:05] <myk_robinson> javaJake: one person noted he enabled software mixed sound under sound preferences. I dont see this option
[14:06] <javaJake> myk_robinson: Intrepid changed it around
[14:06] <myk_robinson> oh
[14:06] <bernhard1> what is my username? (I mean which one do you see?)
[14:06] <ActionParsnip> fbond: if you use unofficail repos, there is no telling what modifications could have happened to the files you are donwnloading. If you use official repos you know you are getting the real deal
[14:06] <fbond> You say "even less garuntee it will work when it comes back round"; what do you anticipate going wrong?
[14:06] <|MUSE|> I am installing ubuntu-server and want to set up two 250gb in raid1. I have all the partitions set up to do this but the swap. How do I, or should I, or can it be done?
[14:06] <myk_robinson> this is weird, this is the only sound issue (or any issue at all, really) that I am having...
[14:06] <DarkKnight> hey how do i add more fonts in OpenOffice
[14:07] <fbond> ActionParsnip: These are correct repos, just not official ones.
[14:07] <javaJake> myk_robinson: well, I do not see any more information related to your problem. Since sound works everywhere else, I can only assume it's a bug in Evolution.
[14:07] <erUSUL> !raid | |MUSE|
[14:07] <ActionParsnip> fbond: anything can go wrong. its FOSS, if it works, great. If it breaks you get both pieces. Using official repos is a better idea allround
[14:07] <fbond> ActionParsnip: The report I'm getting is that the unofficial repos got commented during the upgrade process.
[14:07] <|MUSE|> erUSUL: tahnx
[14:07] <myk_robinson> javaJake: thank you for your assistance, many times its nice just to have a response here :)
[14:07] <javaJake> myk_robinson: I would try different sound files, and whatever else you can change, and if you can't get it to work, I'd reopen that bug I linked you to and mention that it does not work in Intrepid.
[14:07] <javaJake> myk_robinson: I know what you mean :)
[14:08] <javaJake> *winks at LjL*
[14:08] <fbond> ActionParsnip: Okay, thanks...
[14:08] <edvard> trying to find an Ubuntu package with the Nvidia 180.08 BETA drivers?
[14:08] <ikonia> edvard there isn't one
[14:09] <seravitae> hi there, could someone step me though getting an application using Git?
[14:09] <DarkKnight> hey how do i add more fonts in OpenOffice
[14:09] <mahfouz1> hello
[14:09] <edvard> ah, so I would have to install the drivers manually thne?
[14:10] <ikonia> edvard: you don't
[14:10] <javaJake> edvard: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[14:10] <ikonia> edvard: why do you want these drivers ?
[14:10] <ikonia> edvard: what card do you have?
[14:10] <javaJake> edvard: or more specifically: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia#Driver%20Versions
[14:11] <javaJake> edvard: certain versions support certain cards, so be sure to install the right one
[14:11] <myk_robinson> javaJake: looks like a bug report is filed for INtrepid as well:   https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/evolution/+bug/292585
[14:11] <edvard> I have a geforce 9600m GT (Laptop)..
[14:11] <javaJake> myk_robinson: nice :)
[14:11] <edvard> and when activating the 177 drivers that come with Ubuntu, Office 2007 renders really slow..
[14:12] <javaJake> myk_robinson: now login and mark yourself as being affected too ;)
[14:12] <UnknownUser56> I overwrote the mbr and rebooted to check and it worked,being satisfied I shutdown the computer and went to sleep . Today while trying to boot to windows ( from the grub console ) it stops while in "GRUB Loading Stage2" and stops ,how come ?
[14:12] <myk_robinson> doing so as we speak
[14:12] <edvard> and since the 9600m GT is a rather new card, I was thinking that the new driver might solve my biggest problem with linux
[14:12] <javaJake> edvard: your card is not listed as supported: http://us.download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86/169.12/README/appendix-a.html
[14:13] <edvard> I believe office2007 uses gdiplus a lot for drawing to bitmaps and so
[14:13] <javaJake> edvard: at least, not in the versions Ubuntu has available
[14:13] <Joker_-_> UnknownUser56: can you post your menu.lst ?
[14:13] <javaJake> edvard: yea, you might have to manually install
[14:13] <edvard> well, when activating the Nvidia drivers that come with ubuntu (177 or 173), everything works perfect... except Office 2007
[14:13] <welp> argh, anyone have any idea what would be causing a "None of the authentication protocols specified are supported and host-based authentication failed" error when attempting to start GUI programs as a normal user?
[14:13] <javaJake> edvard: which is a big pain! Expect it to be a messy business.
[14:13] <edvard> :'(
[14:13] <javaJake> edvard: ahh, OK
[14:14] <ActionParsnip> edvard: then you need to work with crossover as its a proprietary software as is Office
[14:14] <javaJake> edvard: yea, can't help you there. :(
[14:14] <edvard> yeah, I have been searching for answers everywhere
[14:14] <javaJake> ActionParsnip: he's probably already using that (or it's cousin, Wine)
[14:14] <edvard> I know its not Compiz, and since Office 2007 works perfectly well without the Nvidia drivers..
[14:14] <jagadeesh> Hi all,
[14:14] <ActionParsnip> javaJake: yes, he's using crossover
[14:15] <ActionParsnip> javaJake: too rich for my blood
[14:15] <javaJake> :P
[14:15] <jagadeesh> has anyone connected Sony Erricsson G700 cellphone to multisync?
[14:15] <UnknownUser56> Joker_-_:Not quite as I can't boot to an OS,ubuntu installation was faulty so I thought of booting to Windows while it reports the error message,so I'm rather stuck ..
[14:15] <krupa^> hello all! hey im looking for a way to sync a mysql db structure (only structure!) from localhost to remote server, not in real time, just when i type a command or somthing... i saw replication but i see its realtime sync so its wont help me... ideas? ... thanks!
[14:15] <Fezzler1> can I check the filesystem of my first harddisk booted from the LiveCD?
[14:16] <Fezzler1> Getting ready to clone it
[14:16] <LjL> Fezzler1: fsck /dev/whatever
[14:16] <edvard> yeah, using Crossover Office
[14:16] <Joker_-_> UnknownUser56: I dotn have quite enought information to help you out with your ubuntu problem... as for your booting problem, you can erase your mbr in order to have windows booting as it was before.
[14:16] <Fezzler1> LjLWill that repair too?
[14:16] <jagadeesh> krupa^:  try using rsync
[14:16] <Joker_-_> UnknownUser56: if you have a bootable floppy with fdisck on it, or a bootable windows install CD, you can do it quite easily
[14:17] <joaopinto> krupa^, you want to replicate the structure without changing the data ? Or you don't have/care about the data on it ?
[14:17] <LjL> Fezzler1: yes (you need to use sudo and the disk must *not* be mounted)
[14:17] <joaopinto> jagadeesh, rsync does not help with a database :)
[14:17] <UnknownUser56> Joker_-_:will try liveCD when I get home ,thanks :)
[14:17] <krupa^> i care
[14:17] <edvard> I believe office2007 uses gdiplus a lot for drawing to bitmaps and so I cant really figure out if its crossover or Nvidia drivers which are to blame
[14:17] <Joker_-_> UnknownUser56: liveCD? I dont think you can fix your mbr with live CD...
[14:17] <joaopinto> krupa^, if you change the structure, and there is new data on the new fields, you must synchronize the data also...
[14:18] <jagadeesh> joaopinto: why? once we got schema, we can use it for restoring
[14:18] <Fezzler1> LjL how do I unmount /dev/hda
[14:18] <LjL> Fezzler1: sudo umount /dev/hda
[14:18] <edvard> If I could use Office 2007 with Ubuntu, everything would be great, but without it, I still need Windows
[14:18] <krupa^> i cannot do only to add/remove cols ?
[14:18] <joaopinto> jagadeesh, I guess he was asking about how to deal qith the mysql/db part, not about simple file synchronization ;)
[14:18] <javaJake> Dadgum. nvidia-glx-71 failed to install correctly.
[14:18] <Fezzler1> LjL So I can run fsck /dev/hda from boot disk
[14:18] <joaopinto> krupa^, you can, assuming they all accept NULL values
[14:19] <joaopinto> krupa^, and you want something that would generate an ALTER table, a mysql diff
[14:19] <jagadeesh> joaopinto: oh.
[14:19] <Fazavon> edcard: why do you have to use office 2007 office 2003 will work in Ubuntu
[14:19] <LjL> Fezzler1: actually though, no. /dev/hda is a drive, not a partition. you can only mount/unmount/fsck a *partition*
[14:19] <Fezzler1> Getting some about "Couldn't find ext2 superblock
[14:19] <UnknownUser56> Joker_-_:there were instructions on how to reset the Windows bootloader on one of my partitions ,I'll be following the instructions
[14:19] <krupa^> they are accepting nulls
[14:19] <Joker_-_> UnknownUser56: aight, good luck with that!
[14:20] <UnknownUser56> ;)
[14:20] <LjL> Fezzler1: yes, that's because it's not a partition, even less so an ext2 partition
[14:20] <joaopinto> krupa^, you need to search for a mysql structure diff, try http://adamyoung.net/MySQL-Database-Diff-Script, but your question is a bit off topic
[14:20] <lmartin92> what is wrong with Ubuntu USB ??? It periodically (usually over the course of a day) dies but if the mouse is used a lot it dies quicker.........
[14:20] <LjL> Fezzler1: things like /dev/hda1, /dev/hda2 etc are partitions. /dev/hda is not.
[14:20] <javaJake> Anyone here survived "sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx-71" in Intrepid yet? :P
[14:20] <Fezzler1> LjL so fsck /dev/hda will not check my filesystems before I clone?
[14:21] <LjL> Fezzler1, NO, because it wouldn't know WHAT filesystem to check, and that's because /dev/hda is NOT a partition with a filesystem on it
[14:21] <LjL> Fezzler1: you need to check /dev/hda1, /dev/hda2... whatever is relevant
[14:22] <Joker_-_> LjL: (/dev/hda == physical drive) != (/dev/hda1 == partition with possibly a filesystem on it)
[14:22] <Joker_-_> LjL: forward to Fezzler1
[14:22] <Fezzler1> LjL How do I find that out?  fdisk -l reports I have /dev/hda  and /dev/hdb
[14:23] <LjL> Fezzler1: i'm pretty sure fdisk -l reports more than that
[14:23] <lmartin92> I'll be back in ahile
[14:23] <lmartin92> a while*
[14:23] <UnknownUser56> back home .. the inigial grub setup is failing to load ( Error 17 ) .. frustrating ,let me try the live CD
[14:23] <LjL> !away > lmartin92isAFK    (lmartin92isAFK, see the private message from ubottu)
[14:24] <Fezzler1> LjL Got it.  Yes.  /dev/hda has on it /dev/hda1  /dev/hda2 and /dev/hda5
[14:24] <Joker_-_> !away > Joker_-_
[14:24] <Fezzler1> LjL Before cloning drive, do I need to do a filesystem check on all 3?
[14:25] <sliverchair> where's the installation directory of eclipse? i used aptitude
[14:25] <LjL> Fezzler1: Fezzler1: if you're going to clone the whole drive, it's probably a good idea.
[14:25] <slestak> i cannot update apt on one of my machines.  complains that "Sub-process bzip2 returned an error code (2)".  See some bugs in launchpad going back to dapper.
[14:25] <lmartin92isAFK> LilJ: I'm using Konversation and did do a /away.....  is there a setting I'm missing to kill the messaging? (or is it my nick changing that's causing problems?)
[14:25] <slestak> i have set my software sources from main us server to a local mirror with no change.
[14:25] <lmartin92isAFK> LjL: ^^ (my last message, I accidentally mispelled your nick)
[14:25] <erUSUL> lmartin92isAFK: the later...
[14:26] <LjL> lmartin92isAFK: it's the nick changing (although you don't really need to announce you're going away either, people will find out anyway)
[14:26] <lmartin92isAFK> oh ok
[14:26] <Joker_-_> chagin nickname is prohibited here?
[14:26] <Joker_-_> strange
[14:26] <LjL> !nickspam > Joker_-_    (Joker_-_, see the private message from ubottu)
[14:26] <slestak> basically same problem as bug #158897
[14:26] <LjL> Joker_-_: it's not prohibited but one really should keep it to a bare minimum
[14:27] <Joker_-_> LjL: yeah I can understand this, but changing nickname is a server thing, not a channel thing. anyway, no need to discuss that ;)
[14:28] <Fezzler1> LjL: /dev/hda5 is a swap file...so no need to worry about fsck
[14:28] <LjL> Fezzler1: that's correct
[14:28] <Vinceman> how can you assign applications to owner or group?
[14:28] <chfwiggum> !libkdecore.so
[14:28] <Joker_-_> Vinceman: do you know about chown?
[14:29] <Vinceman> yes
[14:29] <LjL> Vinceman: not sure what you mean there
[14:29] <Joker_-_> Vinceman: I suppose you'd want to chown the "application"
[14:29] <Fezzler1> LjL /dev/hda2 I get "fsck.ext2: Attempt to read block from filesystem resulted in short read while trying to open /dev/hda2"
[14:29] <Vinceman> cool
[14:29] <Joker_-_> Vinceman: wich probably is a file somewhere
[14:29] <Joker_-_> Vinceman: you should check chown and chmod
[14:29] <Fezzler1> LjL: "Could this be a zero-length partition?"
[14:29] <LjL> slestak: i have no clue honestly, but standard stuff you may try could be 1) switching to other mirrors 2) sudo apt-cache gencaches 3) sudo apt-get clean
[14:30] <Fezzler1> LjL: any hting to worry about?
[14:30] <LjL> Fezzler1: pastebin the output of fdisk -l
[14:30] <Samuel> oi
[14:31] <monitor> oi
[14:31] <monitor> tudo bom?
[14:31] <monitor> quem fala?
[14:31] <FloodBot2> monitor: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:31] <joaopinto> !pt | monitor
[14:31] <monitor> bernilta
[14:31] <duxo> Hello. Are anybody here able to help me out with wubi? I installed Ubuntu, but when I try to boot in Wubi, I see "Starting GRLB" or something like that and then the screen goes black and there's a little underscore blinking in the top left corner.
[14:31] <Samuel> bell
[14:32] <monitor> oi
[14:32] <Samuel> belzinhaaaa
[14:32] <Samuel> como vai?
[14:32] <LjL> !pt
[14:32] <duxo> I installed it in order to have an OS after activation-deadline on XP expired, which after I installed Ubuntu, has.
[14:32] <Rainarrow> Hello, why sometimes I press TAB after "apt-get remove", I get auto-completed package names that doesn't actually exist in my system?
[14:33] <joaopinto> Rainarrow, apt-get complete does not check for package existence, it just checks for availability
[14:34] <Rainarrow> joaopinto, availability? you mean, whether the package exists in the repo?
[14:34] <joaopinto> yes
[14:34] <lavacano201014> duxo-\ That underscore blinking in the corner might mean it's taking forever to start up - it does that to me when I have to whack Reset
[14:34] <JonathanEllis> justafish: See my private message
[14:34] <Rainarrow> joaopinto, ok, but if I press TAB twice after "apt-get install", I get asked "Display all  34550 possibilities?"
[14:35] <duxo> lavacano201014: When I press my power-button it instantly turns off, instead of the 5-second killswitch time it usually takes. Can that have something to do with it? It's a laptop btw.
[14:35] <Rainarrow> joaopinto, while if I do this after "apt-get remove", I get "Display all 1940 possibilities?"
[14:35] <joaopinto> Rainarrow, oh :P
[14:35] <DigBig> Hi, anyone know of other websites like sourceforge and freshmeat ??
[14:35] <Rainarrow> joaopinto, so I think bash, or apt-get does check the existence of packages
[14:35] <Pici> DigBig: launchpad.net
[14:35] <Rainarrow> btw I have the package "bash-completion" installed
[14:35] <lavacano201014> duxo-\ Yeah, because what I think happens is the swap partition doesn't get emptied, and Ubuntu has to clean up it's mess when it's "sleepy"
[14:36] <duxo> So I should just let it blink away?
[14:36] <duxo> For how long?
[14:36] <lavacano201014> duxo-\ Give it a little while (my old machine usually takes 3-5 minutes) then if it's still an underscore, you might have a problem
[14:36] <Fezzler1> LjL: I need a pastebin link
[14:36] <Rainarrow> why SOMETIMES when I press TAB after "apt-get remove", I get auto-completed package names that doesn't actually exist in my system?
[14:37] <duxo> lavacano201014: Ok.
[14:37] <icqnumber> Rainarrow, what do you expect, do you want to remove the package you do not have installed?
[14:37] <duxo> Thanks.
[14:37] <Joker_-_> How comes my hdd led keeps flashing all the time on my desktop box? I have 2 other ubuntu boxes (server edition) but none does that...
[14:37] <lavacano201014> duxo-\ No prob
[14:37] <Fezzler1> pastebin
[14:37] <lavacano201014> Febio-\ I usually use pastebin.com
[14:37] <lavacano201014> er
[14:37] <lavacano201014> Fezzler1-\ pastebin.com
[14:38] <Rainarrow> icqnumber, normally only those name of packages that was installed on my system get auto-completed
[14:38] <lavacano201014> Febio-\ My bad.
[14:38] <lmartin92> how does one reset all usb devices? (my usb has turned off its power to usb devices, and is in an infinite recognize loop)
[14:38] <lmartin92> information obtained via syslog ^^
[14:38] <TbotNik> All, trying to get MySQL to run on U-Server 7.10.  Have apache installed and can see web pages at <IP_ADDRESS>/test/html on local net, but keep getting error:  Fatal error:  Call to undefined function mysql_connect() in /var/www/test/html/dblib.inc.php on line 35,  which indicated the MySQL engine is not working, but logging in with Putty, I see and run it just fine from command line.  What is wrong?
[14:38] <Rainarrow> icqnumber, e.g. if I press TAB twice after "apt-get remove linux-image", only those kernel images that exists on my system get listed
[14:38] <Rainarrow> icqnumber, that's how it normally behaves
[14:39] <lavacano201014> lmartin92-\ There's the quick 'n' easy way of just unplugging them all and letting it cool off for a minute
[14:39] <Rainarrow> icqnumber, but sometimes those package that was already removed still get listed
[14:39] <[c0re]> can anyone help me with a python script?
[14:39] <TbotNik> All, oh yes have to log as SU to mysql in Putty.  Is this the problem?
[14:39] <DigBig> Anyone know how to create a partition that's part of the memory ?
[14:39] <slayton> UBUNTU!
[14:39] <lavacano201014> [c0re]-\ Wouldn't that be in #python?
[14:39] <Rainarrow> icqnumber, and if I actually press Enter after the auto-completed command, I get the msg like "Package was not installed, so it won't be uninstalled"
[14:40] <lavacano201014> DigBig-\ Swap partition?
[14:40] <lavacano201014> Most partition editors should be able to do that
[14:40] <MrMist> Think I've got some dependency problems here:
[14:40] <MrMist> ImportError: /usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/PyQt4/QtGui.so: undefined symbol: _ZTI19QStyledItemDelegate
[14:40] <MrMist> Any ideas how to solve this issue ?
[14:40] <Rainarrow> icqnumber, so, since normally it would only list the packages on my system, I suppose it has some sort of package existence check
[14:40] <lmartin92> lava*: (I'm sorry but your nick is too long to spell) I'll do that, but I've had this problem in the past, and I can't possibly disconnect all my usb devices when one of them is a Flash Card Reader that is stuck inside the computer
[14:40] <LjL> !paste | Fezzler
[14:40] <Rainarrow> and I wonder why sometimes this check fails
[14:40] <lavacano201014> lmartin92-\ Couple things.
[14:41] <lavacano201014> lmartin92-\ 1) You can use lav<TAB> usually to get my full nick
[14:41] <lavacano201014> lmartin92-\ 2) Ouch.
[14:41] <Fezzler> LjL: http://pastebin.com/m74f33de6
[14:41] <Rainarrow> icqnumber, so to answer your question, I expect bash to auto-complete only the name of those packages that was actually installed on my system
[14:41] <lmartin92> lavacano201014: (I'm not used to IRC, so sorry)
[14:41] <lavacano201014> lmartin92-\ No prob.
[14:42] <LjL> Rainarrow (icqnumber): my guess would be that it looks at the same list that you get when you do "dpkg -l", but without actually making sure the package is *installed currently*, rather the still listed but only installed in the past
[14:42] <lmartin92> lavacano201014: If I go inside my computer, will the card reader be connected to sata, usb header, or usb port?
[14:42] <LjL> Fezzler: hda2 isn't a real partition, it's only an extended ("fake") partition that holds hda5. don't check it.
[14:42] <lavacano201014> lmartin92-\ I have no idea.
[14:43] <slayton> Rainarrow, when I use tab completion it uses the list of all available packages not just those installed
[14:43] <lavacano201014> lmartin92-\ Try shutting down the machine for a bit, see if that works.
[14:43] <LjL> slayton: not when you use "remove"
[14:43] <fograven> how do I change my screen resolution in Ibex?  I don't have High enough resolutions to choose from.  I add modes and more options in the X11 and there not showing up.
[14:43] <Rainarrow> slayton, try press TAB twice after "apt-get install" and "apt-get remove" and look at the "Display all xxxx possibilities?" message
[14:43] <lmartin92> lavacano201014: ok......
[14:43] <lavacano201014> 'Cause I really think it just needs a cool-down
[14:44] <Rainarrow> slayton, on my system those two numbers are hugely different
[14:44] <fograven> help
[14:44] <Fezzler> LjL: so I'm ready to clone with dd!  I'm attempting to clone my boot hda, a failing 6giger to a new 20 giger hdb
[14:44] <Rainarrow> LjL, I think you have a point there, actually I've checked /etc/bash_completion
[14:44] <Rainarrow> LjL, which did mention dpkg
[14:44] <LjL> Fezzler: i'm not sure cloning to a differently-sized HD will work right.
[14:44] <Fezzler> LjL: As long as it is bigger, it is ok
[14:45] <Fezzler> LjL: I'll need to use gparted to expand partition when done (researched)
[14:45] <_mak> how can I make the tun0 (vpn) connection available to my 192. network? My eth1 (internet) is already available to the eth0 (192.), but i dont know how to do this with the tun0..
[14:45] <LjL> Rainarrow: yes, and you can test that. do « dpkg -l | grep "^rc" ». those are packages that aren't installed, but are only listed because they were removed (not purged) in the past. try tab completion on one of those
[14:45] <fograven> can help me with my screen resolution please
[14:46] <fograven> I need to add higher
[14:46] <LjL> Fezzler: ok, if you've researched it then fine, i was only afraid the partition table would be inconsistent
[14:46] <Panarchy> How do I add another menu next to Applications | Places | System
[14:46] <Rainarrow> LjL, ok I see..but normally if I remove a package, it disappears from the auto-completion list, I don't have to purge them
[14:46] <Joker_-_> fograven: I can point you to /etc/X11/xorg.conf but wont have time to help you out setting it up.
[14:46] <Fezzler> LjL: Live and learn!  :)
[14:47] <Rainarrow> LjL, so I think this only happens when a package was not "completely" uninstalled for some reason?
[14:47] <lavacano201014> fograven-\ Is your monitor on when you boot your machine up? And are any KVM switches displaying that machine?
[14:47] <fograven> joker: I did that add them
[14:47] <fograven> to the X11
[14:47] <Joker_-_> fograven: something must be wrong in there or you'd be set.
[14:47] <LjL> Rainarrow: likely when it has configuration files (which remove without purge doesn't get rid of by default), yes...
[14:47] <Joker_-_> fograven: nopaste xorg.conf and give us the link
[14:48] <Joker_-_> fograven: find someone to help you out. I have to go to an apointment.
[14:48] <lavacano201014> See, when I don't have my monitor actively WATCHING it boot up, then I usually get stuck with 640x480
[14:48] <TbotNik> All, trying to get MySQL to run on U-Server 7.10.  Have apache installed and can see web pages at <IP_ADDRESS>/test/html on local net, but keep getting error:  Fatal error:  Call to undefined function mysql_connect() in /var/www/test/html/dblib.inc.php on line 35,  which indicated the MySQL engine is not working, but logging in with Putty, I see and run it just fine from command line.  What is wrong?  All, oh yes have to log as SU to mysql
[14:48] <fograven> cool thanks
[14:48] <Rainarrow> LjL, ok I think that answer is good enough for me. Thanks!
[14:48] <slestak> LjL: i have tried 1 already.  is the gencache and apt-get clean a non-destructive move?
[14:49]  * lavacano201014 detaches any help he could give otherwise so he can go to work
[14:49] <herve_> Hi
[14:49] <LjL> slestak: yes and no (but mostly yes) - apt-get clean deletes the packages you have downloaded from /var/cache/apt/archives, so you'll have to download those again if you need to install them
[14:49] <herve_> how do I exit the sendmail command ?
[14:52] <TbotNik> All, Oh yes I installed MySQL Administrator, to do remote login and when I set to: Server Host ==> <IP_ADDRESS>, Username ==> root, Password ==> correct_root_pwd;  the connection always fails, so assuming I have an connect, apache, or some other system level config issue.  help please!
[14:52] <jeancalvin> i need to do a su command (and not sudo). But since I never run su, i don't remember my su password. how can i find out my su password?
[14:52] <LjL> jeancalvin: there is no "su" password. why do you think you need su instead of sudo?
[14:52] <LjL> !root > jeancalvin    (jeancalvin, see the private message from ubottu)
[14:53] <Zzeiss> jeancalvin: If you really want "su", try "sudo bash".  :)
[14:53] <jeancalvin> LjL, ty. but how do i then run this command: echo 0 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/tcp_window_scaling ?
[14:53] <jeancalvin> Zzeiss: perfect! thanks
[14:53] <LjL> Zzeiss: no reason to do that
[14:53] <LjL> jeancalvin: "sudo -i" will achieve that.
[14:53] <LjL> sudo bash is an abomination.
[14:54] <LjL> jeancalvin: also, you can do it in several other ways that involve no root login
[14:54] <jeancalvin> Ljl, i just did sudo bash and it worked
[14:54] <jeancalvin> sudo -i is the same as sudo bash, ljl?
[14:54] <LjL> jeancalvin: for instance:   echo 0 | sudo tee -a /proc/etc
[14:54] <Zzeiss> LjL : indeed, it is.
[14:54] <genii> jeancalvin: echo 0 | sudo tee -a /proc/sys/net/ipv4/tcp_window_scaling
[14:54] <LjL> jeancalvin: no, it's not the same, "sudo -i" sets up things sanely
[14:54] <LjL> !works for me | Zzeiss
[14:55] <Zzeiss> LjL:  I had not seen "sudo -i".  Cool.  :)
[14:55] <pw-> greetings all
[14:56] <daviddean> hi everyone, the ubuntu live cd seems to have borked by video card and I'm looking for some advice on handling the warranty return
[14:56] <pw-> is it possible to get dual language spell check in 8.10 under gnome? It seems if I log into an English session, then English is spellchecked, but everything i type in Russian, correct or not, is underlined as misspelled. Same goes for Russian sessions (with the languages reversed, of course)
[14:56] <daviddean> should I just say what happened, or keep quiet?
[14:56] <jeancalvin> LjL, Zzeiss. thanks for your help
[14:57] <Zzeiss> On the other hand, "sudo -i" is _not_ in the man pages.  Therefore, one might challenge it on the basis of "undocumented feature that might go away"
[14:57] <LjL> Zzeiss: then you haven't looked at the man page carefully enough.
[14:57] <daviddean> details on the problem are here: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-video-intel/+bug/302006
[14:57] <LjL> Zzeiss: the SYNOPSIS gives:  sudo [-bEHPS] [-a auth_type] [-c class|-] [-p prompt] [-u username|#uid] [VAR=value] {-i | -s | command} <---- see that "-i"
[14:57] <erUSUL> Zzeiss: it is there with a rather long entry explainig its effects
[14:58] <LjL> Zzeiss: then, there is:   -i  The -i (simulate initial login) option runs the shell specified in the passwd(5) entry of the user that the command is being run as.
[14:58] <daviddean> if anyone can give me any ideas of the best approach to take with this kind of thing that would be awesome
[14:58] <Zzeiss> Ah, there it is.
[14:58] <slestak> LjL: ni dice yet.  did the gencaches.  i am looking at my sources.list carefully.  wnet to url in multiverse line (1st that failes) in elinks, and things look ok so far as I can tell.
[14:59] <Zzeiss> LjL: so how is it _different_ from sudo bash?
[14:59] <slestak> LjL: do not see any bz2's there though, which is what aptitude is expectin to find
[14:59] <cyr1> im guessing sudo -i is meant to emulate a 'su -'
[14:59] <Zzeiss> ljl: It looks like sudo -i is like su - , which is different than "su"
[14:59] <cyr1> while sudo -s is just a normal 'su'
[15:00]  * Panarchy goes to be, and wishes everyone a Good Night!
[15:00] <w0ls0n> so .... I am trying to install screens and graphics on 8.10 ... can someone tell me where it is?
[15:00] <LjL> Zzeiss: it's different in all the things that the manpage says about "-i".  "sudo bash" won't « attempt to change to that user’s home directory before running the shell », it won't « initialize the environment, leaving TERM unchanged, setting HOME, SHELL, USER, LOGNAME, and PATH », and all the other stuff that "man" says.
[15:00] <w0ls0n> ubuntu is not detecting the correct monitor/resolution
[15:00] <genii> w0ls0n: You installed server version or so?
[15:01] <LjL> Zzeiss: yes, the equivalent of "su" is "sudo -s".
[15:01] <w0ls0n> genii workstation
[15:01] <LjL> Zzeiss: "sudo -i" is almost invariably a better idea.
[15:02] <Rainarrow> What's the difference between aptitude and apt-get? Could they be used interchangeably at all time?
[15:02] <LjL> !aptitude | Rainarrow
[15:02] <Zzeiss> so then, what is the difference between "sudo -i" and "su -" except that you use your own password rather than root's password?
[15:02] <Fezzler1> I have just cloned my boot harddrive using dd.  A failing 6gig to a newer 20gig.  Now I need to expand the partition on the 20gig to take advantage of the new drive size
[15:02] <cyr1> Rainarrow : these days? yea they are pretty well identical on the later debian based distros
[15:03] <LjL> Rainarrow: you can use the one you prefer. differences are, for instance, * aptitude has a TUI mode (although i hate it) * aptitude has very advanced "search" capabilities that apt-get lacks * aptitude gives you some more control over things like installing recommends
[15:03] <erUSUL> Fezzler1: use gparted to resize
[15:03] <LjL> cyr1: well, i wouldn't say identical
[15:03] <cyr1> well functionally equivilant from an installation standpoint ;-)
[15:03] <LjL> i tend to use apt-get to install and aptitude to search, but that's me
[15:03] <Rainarrow> wow, ok thanks, I'll go check that SurvivalGuide out
[15:03] <LjL> cyr1: for installing, yes.
[15:03] <Fezzler1> Can I do this by booting from the original 6gig, have newly clone drive as slave, and use gparted installed on the 6giger?
[15:03] <histo> LjL, wouldn't you use apt-cache for searching?
[15:04] <LjL> Rainarrow: then if you're interested in learning more, http://algebraicthunk.net/~dburrows/projects/aptitude/doc/en/
[15:04] <Fezzler1> that saves me from having to create a gparted boot disk, right?
[15:04] <w0ls0n> so how do I change my monitor in ubuntu 8.10>? It seems screens and graphics is gone
[15:04] <slestak> LjL: im checking logs.  think it may be related to dansguardian and tinyproxy
[15:04] <LjL> histo: well to be honest, yes i do in most circumstance. but there are cases when aptitude just lets you search much more complicated things.
[15:04] <Fezzler1> Because I can change partition on a boot harddrive, right?
[15:04] <erUSUL> Fezzler1: do it from the ubuntu livecd
[15:04] <duxo> Who was it that gave me some help with WUBI about 15 minutes ago?
[15:04] <cyr1> aptitude has more functionality than apt-cache search wise
[15:04] <Rainarrow> LjL, thank you, you are so kind!
[15:04] <Fezzler1> erUSUL> good call
[15:05] <histo> w0ls0n, system > preferences > Screen resolution
[15:05] <w0ls0n> histo, as I just said
[15:05] <cyr1> i.e. it will tell you package install status, blah blah
[15:05] <w0ls0n> ubuntu is not detecting the correct monitor/resolution
[15:05] <Fezzler1> erUSUL> Is gparted on the LiveCD?
[15:05] <w0ls0n> it only goes up to 800x600 and this monitor goes up to 1280x1024
[15:05] <erUSUL> Fezzler1: dunno for sure but you can install it
[15:05] <ejd> I'm trying to upgrade to 8.10, and am getting a "Error authenticating some packages" problem. Any clues on how to procede?
[15:05] <histo> w0ls0n, what type of video card do you have?
[15:05] <Fezzler1> This is exciting. I hope it works!
[15:05] <histo> Stupid bulletproffx
[15:05] <w0ls0n> histo, its on the mobo embedded
[15:05] <schmrz> What is the initrd image in 8.10?
[15:06] <daviddean> how likely is it that ubuntu permanently wrecked my video card?
[15:06] <daviddean> or was it an existing hardware problem?
[15:06] <duxo> I'm having problems with getting into Ubuntu after I ran the WUBI installer in windows. I installed it to D:/ instead of C:/, even though it's the same physical hdd. Can this have something to do with my problem?
[15:06] <LjL> daviddean: i'd say extremely unlikely...
[15:06] <cyr1> daviddean : pretty unlikely
[15:06] <schmrz> daviddean: almost impossible?
[15:06] <Fezzler1> When one install apts via LiveCD boot, do they get installed in a temporary swap file? where do they get installed?
[15:06] <barkette> comment lire des videos sur pc
[15:06] <LjL> Fezzler1: in RAM
[15:06] <erUSUL> Fazavon: o.0!!?? maybe you are interested in talking to w0ls0n althought displayconfig-gt is no avable in ibex
[15:07] <schmrz> Hi all. What is the initrd image file in Ubuntu 8.10?
[15:07] <daviddean> the video card started showing horizontals lines during the livecd bootup, and they haven't left since
[15:07] <bazhang> barkette, english here please
[15:07] <erUSUL> schmrz: /boot/initrd.img-*
[15:07] <joaopinto> !fr | barkette
[15:07] <LjL> !fr | barkette
[15:07] <wayneward> anyone using asus on here\/
[15:07] <Fezzler1> LjL Thanks.  So it would tell you if you didn't have enough RAM to install program from LiveCD?
[15:07] <_mak> see, what should I change to make those 2 dig's output be equal? http://paste.ubuntu.com/76799/
[15:07] <schmrz> erUSUL: no, not there
[15:07] <Administrator__> - -*
[15:07] <Fezzler1> CLone halfway done
[15:07] <matze|city> hi
[15:07] <LjL> Fezzler1: uhm, i'm afraid things would start crashing badly, rather...
[15:07] <matze|city> anybody there wo can help me?
[15:08] <ndlovu> any ideas why zip files saved to /tmp have permissions set to 400? any way to make it more permissive by default?
[15:08] <daviddean> when I take it back to the store tomorrow, should I tell them it broke when I booted the Live CD or will that just create problems for me?
[15:08] <histo> w0ls0n, you can edit your xorg.conf and speicfy a display section
[15:08] <erUSUL> schmrz: yes they are there. maybe you can elaborate on the question or problem you are trying to solve
[15:08] <Rainarrow> Is the "Create USB startup disk" function in Intrepid supposed not to work with USB drives larger than 4GB?
[15:08] <matze|city> I try to call an php script by liunx shell
[15:08] <histo> w0ls0n, its a problem with this stupid bulletproof X they are using now.
[15:08] <matze|city> on an extra server
[15:08] <LjL> Fezzler1: although i also think that if the live CD sees something that it can use as swap on the HD, it will (i can't swear on that though)
[15:08] <Rainarrow> Since I never get succeed on >4GB drives
[15:08] <matze|city> but I will not work
[15:08] <matze|city> any idea?
[15:08] <questnn> I am Ubuntu 8.10. I need to enter manually the ip add (no dhcp), netmask and gateway of my LAN, and DNS to connect to it everytime I reboot. The network manager doesn't remember it. How do I make it remember this data?
[15:08] <w0ls0n> histo, no matetr what I do to /etc/X11/xorg.conf it doesn't change a da*n thing
[15:08] <Fezzler1> Home on vacation - hard to not look at BlackBerry!  Hard to disconnect.  Worried about stuff piling in
[15:08] <histo> !resolution | w0ls0n
[15:09] <Fezzler1> Cloning at rate of 6346 kB/s
[15:09] <histo> w0ls0n, it does take the settings in xorg.conf I fixed my friends computer. I noticed I had to have the proper depth.
[15:09] <oskar-> daviddean:  i would tell truth, but eventually not the whole truth ;-) just say, what does not work
[15:09] <Fezzler1> No errors
[15:09] <schmrz> matze|city: i have /boot/abi-*, /boot/config-*, /boot/memtest*, /boot/system.map-*, /boot/vmlinuz-*, /boot/vmcoreinfo-*
[15:09] <schmrz> erUSUL:  i have /boot/abi-*, /boot/config-*, /boot/memtest*, /boot/system.map-*, /boot/vmlinuz-*, /boot/vmcoreinfo-*
[15:09] <cyr1> matze|city : is php5-cli installed?
[15:09] <Zzeiss> daviddean: almost impossible.
[15:09] <daviddean> oskar: so start with it doesn't work, and only answer questions when asked?
[15:10] <erUSUL> schmrz: that is really weird... maybe you deleted them by mistake?
[15:10] <oskar-> daviddean:  yes, i think that this is a good strategy
[15:10] <atax> Hi all, anyone know how to get back to gnome  when in fullscreen-mode of rdesktop or tsclient whithout exiting the rdesktop-session?
[15:10] <daviddean> if they fix the problem, is it likely that booting into the live cd again will make it come back?
[15:10] <Fezzler1> Paulson live trying another solution - print more money!
[15:10] <schmrz> erUSUL: i installed 8.10 twice. both times it didn't install grub automaticly. so i installed it manualy but it can't boot without the initrd property
[15:10] <oskar-> daviddean:  it is not normal, that in simple graphic or text modes at live cd bootup the screen picture gets permanent errors
[15:11] <cyr1> daviddean : sounds like a flaky video card unrelated to the livecd
[15:11] <Rainarrow> LjL, another question: now I have those "artifacts" left from the package I uninstalled earlier, is there a way for me to remove them?
[15:11] <erUSUL> schmrz: try sudo update-initramfs
[15:11] <bazhang> Fezzler1, please take chat elsewhere
[15:11] <oskar-> daviddean:  i can't judge that
[15:11] <daviddean> I haven't had it very long, so that is certainly possible
[15:11] <schmrz> erUSUL: it's generating it...
[15:12] <Fezzler1> Am I correct that one cannot safely resize the partition of the harddrive the PC was booted from?
[15:12] <erUSUL> schmrz: it is weird that installed the kernel debs did not triguered the initrd generation....
[15:12] <questnn> This channel is real busy. Anyone ever though of dividing it into ubuntu-network, ubuntu-install, ubuntu-software, channels? I am sure people who hang around here can create more app sub-channels depending on the volume of questions faced over irc. Then even people who want to help can have a easier time assisting.
[15:12] <daviddean> ok people, thanks a lot for the help, I'll return the computer tomorrow and see how it goes
[15:12] <schmrz> bazhang: thx... i'm going to add it to menu.lst and give it a try
[15:12] <oskar-> daviddean:  good luck
[15:12] <schmrz> erUSUL: i know...
[15:12] <w0ls0n> man why are they making it so friggin hard to add video modes now?
[15:13] <daviddean> thanks
[15:13] <BigAl> Hi there can someone help, i'm trying to install mingw32 and after running sudo apt-get -install mingw32 and selecting yes it can resolve "gb.archive.ubuntu.com" i've tried install other app's as well and nothing works has the repos been moved?
[15:13] <w0ls0n> all I want to do is add 2 video modes 1024x768n and 1280x1024. If I add it to /etc/X11/xorg.conf, It never changes or gets added
[15:13] <cyr1> w0ls0n : it's not really any different than it was before, other than dpkg-reconfigure working differently, you can still manually force linemodes, etc
[15:14] <histo> w0ls0n, you need to at it in the right section can you paste your xorg.conf
[15:14] <w0ls0n> how do I tell what mode this is in?
[15:14] <Rainarrow> LjL, is there a way to remove the "artifacts" left from the "incompletely" removed package?
[15:14] <erUSUL> BigAl: tried changing mirror? System>Admin>Software Sources
[15:14] <oskar-> w0ls0n:  try to set the HorizSync and VertRefresh ranges
[15:14] <TbotNik> All, mysql in php install not working.  Commmand "apt-get install php5-mysql" asks for CD, but at different site.  Need this to run form internet.  File "/etc/apt/source.list" is empty file so resources not set.  How to I fix this?
[15:14] <w0ls0n> http://pastebin.ca/1266645
[15:14] <histo> w0ls0n, go to System > preferences > Screen resolutino to see you current res
[15:14] <cyr1> generally speaking, with modern hardware, it should 'detect' everything, but sometimes it doesn't work, I fought with it for a week before I gave up and just bought an nvidia card ;-)
[15:14] <w0ls0n> histo, omg
[15:14] <oskar-> w0ls0n:  it's likely that they are not detected correctly
[15:15] <TbotNik> All, version is U-Server 7.10
[15:15] <bknoxx> how do i edit boot menu?
[15:15] <histo> w0ls0n, let me check something hodl up
[15:15] <w0ls0n> histo, oskar- you're not telling me anything I don't already know
[15:15] <oskar-> w0ls0n:  then i'm sorry
[15:15] <histo> w0ls0n, well hold up and i'll fix your xorg.conf
[15:16] <w0ls0n> if they left screens and graphics alone, this would have been fixed already.
[15:16] <cyr1> w0ls0n : what sort of card?  I had a heck of a time with an onboard dell card (intel chipset) in that it simply refused to read the ddc settings correctly
[15:16] <TbotNik> All, mysql in php install not working.  Commmand "apt-get install php5-mysql" asks for CD, but at different site.  Need this to run form internet.  File "/etc/apt/source.list" is empty file so resources not set.  How to I fix this?  version is U-Server 7.10
[15:16] <w0ls0n> yea its an onboard card
[15:16] <w0ls0n> works fine with 8.04
[15:16] <egoleo> TbotNik
[15:17] <schmrz> erUSUL: just wanted to say thank you. it works now :D
[15:17] <bazhang> TbotNik, its sources.list
[15:17] <erUSUL> schmrz: no problem
[15:17] <cyr1> generally speaking the new xorg is WAY better than it used to be, except in a few of these cases where it isn't ;)
[15:17] <TbotNik> bazhang: That file is empty
[15:17] <schmrz> erUSUL: are you a long time *nix user or a ubuntu team member?
[15:17] <Fezzler1> Ooops, dd reporting first error during cloning.  errsize: 262 kB
[15:17] <egoleo> TbotNik there is no way that fle should be empty
[15:17] <BigAl> erUSUL: I've just tried that but it still cant seem to find anything
[15:17] <bazhang> TbotNik, you are misspelling it
[15:17] <egoleo> u are opening wrong file
[15:17] <Fezzler1> 6 errors
[15:17] <histo> w0ls0n, try this http://pastebin.ca/1266649
[15:18] <egoleo> sudo /etc/apt/source.list
[15:18] <TbotNik> bazhang: What do I put into that file for Inet upgrades, etc.
[15:18] <egoleo> sorry
[15:18] <egoleo> sudo vim /etc/apt/source.list
[15:18] <w0ls0n> thanks i'll try that
[15:18] <histo> w0ls0n, you can remove the modes and depths that don't apply
[15:18] <erUSUL> schmrz: long time linux/ubuntu user
[15:18] <egoleo> TbotNik try what i gave u
[15:18] <bazhang> cat /etc/apt/sources.list to paste.ubuntu.com TbotNik
[15:18] <erUSUL> schmrz: no ubuntu member (neither dev)
[15:19] <Fezzler1> crap, dd cloning errors mouning, now up to 593 kB, 16 errors.  Normal?
[15:19] <schmrz> erUSUL: oke...
[15:19] <cyr1> write or read errors? no not normal if doing a hdd to hdd copy
[15:20] <Fezzler1> cyr1> Doesn't say
[15:20] <cyr1> well i mean which device is giving you errors?  are you getting some sort of crc error or ?
[15:20] <Fezzler1> cyr1> ipos: 6295, errors: 31
[15:20] <erUSUL> BigAl: :/ weird the same error ?
[15:21] <TbotNik> bazhang, egoleo: PB at: http://pastebin.ca/1266655
[15:21] <egoleo> whats that
[15:21] <Fezzler1> rescued: 6295 MB, errsize 1368 kB
[15:21] <egoleo> TbotNik i gave u a link
[15:21] <egoleo> yes
[15:21] <egoleo> this is the content
[15:21] <egoleo> u have now produced the correct file
[15:22] <bazhang> TbotNik, put a # in front of number 4, save and update
[15:22] <egoleo> TbotNik: comment line 4
[15:22] <egoleo> with a #
[15:22] <Fezzler1> Now up to 45 errors, 1613 kB
[15:22] <cereal|work> has anyone ever seen a keyboard / mouse stop having button presses in gnome before?  if i hit ctr-alt-f6 (which just reloads the current session) they all start working again...its on a dell precision m4300 (in case that would be of any help)
[15:22] <Fezzler1> Is this not working?
[15:22] <slestak> LjL: got it, i had to add an exception to dansguardian for my mirror.  was blocking bz2's (among others)
[15:23] <UnknownUser56> Even the Windows XP installatio disk won't boot .. trying a usb boot aproach which has booted ,slawkware :) .. just let me check if it has grub installation options
[15:23] <UnknownUser56> Ah,it doesn't ..downloading
[15:23] <egoleo> read this TbotNik http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Gutsy
[15:23] <egoleo> follow that link
[15:23] <LjL> slestak: oh... that's something i wouldn't have thought of for sure
[15:23] <UnknownUser56> !grub
[15:24] <|1313|> hi all i just bought myself a zyxel GS-105B switch and cant get any internet connection to work
[15:24] <Fezzler1> Anyone ever cone a harddisk using ddrescue?
[15:24] <slestak> LjL: my pre-teens use this machine as a proxy, so ive got it locked down.
[15:25] <|1313|> anyone have any idea what can be the issue?
[15:25] <|1313|> it works on windows but not on ubuntu
[15:25] <egoleo> TbotNik use this http://pastebin.ca/1266663
[15:25] <BigAl> erUSUL: yer it just cant resolve the address, it worked fine this morning as it install some open office updates, just seems to have stopped working this afternoon. I'm just gonna try a reboot and see if that helps
[15:25] <cyr1> Fezzler1 : nope, but what are you doing, writing to an image file or another device?
[15:25] <egoleo> replace what u pasted with what i have given u
[15:26] <le00> hi
[15:26] <erUSUL> BigAl: does any other internet program have problems resolving names?
[15:26] <_mak> what should i change in bind to make those two commands have the same output: http://paste.ubuntu.com/76799/
[15:26] <le00> i can't see the logs
[15:26] <le00> with the log viewer or that thing
[15:27] <egoleo> le00
[15:27] <ejd> I'm trying to upgrade to 8.10, and am getting a "Error authenticating some packages" problem. Any clues on how to procede?
[15:27] <egoleo> have u checked in ur /var/log
[15:27] <reaktae> Hi guys. I'm trying to get ubuntu studio installed without partitioning my xp boot drive. Couldn't get wubi to install it for me and now I'm wondering if there's a way to install a boot loader that will mount a loop device and boot from it. Any ideas?
[15:27] <Fezzler1> cyr1> My boot HD is an old failing 6giger.  I'm using ddrescue to clone it to a newer 20giger.
[15:28] <le00> it says the log viewer doesnt have permissions to read the logs
[15:28] <le00> but it worked before
[15:28] <egoleo> is ur bind running some zones?
[15:28] <n8tuser> Fezzler1 -> you didnt use the dd we suggested to you several hours ago?
[15:29] <egoleo> as in public zones?
[15:29] <Fezzler1> cyr1> All my data is safe on a 200gig mounted as /home
[15:29] <le00> what?
[15:29] <egoleo> u are using bind right
[15:29] <OpenBSDRulzs_> !/bin/cat
[15:29] <Fezzler1> n8tuser> Yes, well I slept first.  But yes, using ddrescue
[15:29] <le00> i dont know that thing
[15:29] <OpenBSDRulzs_> !cat
[15:29] <n8tuser> reaktae -> wuvi is for temporary demo kind of thing, you dont want that to become permanent eh?
[15:30] <w0ls0n> histo nope didn't work
[15:30] <cyr1> Fezzler1 : well it appears to be working, but im guessing it's having read errors, so just let it run, it may take some time as ddrescue is pretty pedantic about trying to recover from errors, but if the data is muxed, well, there's not much it can do.
[15:30] <Maveas> Hi guys. Anyone with Wine and Office 2007? I need help to get the installer to work
[15:31] <maccadon> when i installed ubuntu i choose for a separate home partition. how can i see if my home folder is indeed on a different partition
[15:31] <erUSUL> !appdb | Maveas
[15:31] <Raev0n> v0n
[15:31] <oskar-> maccadon:  "mount" | grep home
[15:31] <Maveas> Oh, thanks
[15:31] <erUSUL> maccadon: cat /proc/mounts
[15:31] <silici0> my network manager dont initialize, how can i do it ?
[15:31] <oskar-> maccadon:  sorry, this: "mount | grep home"
[15:31] <w0ls0n> OpenBSDRulzs, I am still having res problems. Can I PM you?
[15:31] <erUSUL> silici0: Alt + f2 nm-applet
[15:31] <maccadon> thanks oskar
[15:31] <reaktae> n8tuser: i haven't had a chance to five ubuntustudio a try yet. If i can run it outside of a vm and make it happen with my firewire sound hw then I'll be more than happy to kill my xp for good...
[15:32] <Fezzler1> cyr1> So in plain language -> worst case it didn't work.  Original HD should be ok
[15:32] <silici0> erUSUL: its give me a error
[15:32] <silici0> ;/
[15:32] <TheKing_> I think your repo's are down
[15:32] <TheKing_> There incredibly slow
[15:32] <Fezzler1> n8tuser> difference between dd and ddrescue
[15:32] <Raev0n> does anybody knows a programme for live tv streaming?
[15:33] <reaktae> Raev0n: i'd use videolan
[15:33] <n8tuser> Fezzler1 -> i dont know the intimate details, you have to read their respective manuals,
[15:33] <TbotNik> egoleo, bazhang: Getting error at PB:  http://pastebin.ca/1266671
[15:33] <egoleo> http://pastebin.ca/1266663
[15:33] <egoleo> i said use this
[15:33] <krish> i have connected to my server on the same network through nautilus, but iam not able to transfer any files. iam getting permission denied. pls help me.
[15:33] <silici0> nn-applet says that NetworkManagerUserSettings is already taken
[15:33] <cyr1> Fezzler1 : you made a copy of the data to another HDD before the clone?
[15:33] <egoleo> TbotNik use this http://pastebin.ca/1266663
[15:33] <reaktae> Rave0n: you'd need hardware to feed it though
[15:33] <egoleo> replace with that
[15:34] <erUSUL> silici0: do i have to guess it ? my crystal ball is broken you know :)
[15:34]  * NicEXE is back (gone 03:09:36)
[15:34] <egoleo> and when done
[15:34] <egoleo> save it
[15:34] <egoleo> and do sudo apt-get update
[15:34] <erUSUL> !away > NicEXE
[15:34] <silici0> erUSUL: my too... ;/
[15:35] <Maveas> A fast way to mount a iso located in my home folder?
[15:35] <silici0> erUSUL:  maybe the update service ?
[15:35] <TbotNik> egoleo, bazhang: Yeah egoleo, using your sources.list, but still getting the error.  Package name is wrong, that is why error.
[15:35] <reaktae> Maveas: mount command?
[15:35] <Fezzler1> cyr1> no.  all my data is on a second HD I mount as /home.  So worse case, I'll do total reinstall on new maser HD.  I was just seeing is I could clone and have a plug and go solution
[15:35] <erUSUL> !iso | Maveas
[15:35] <Fezzler1> cyr1> So data is safe
[15:35] <Maveas> Omg, thanks :)
[15:35] <TbotNik> egoleo, bazhang: What is correct package name for php5-mysql?
[15:36] <reaktae> anyone on the bootloader supporting loopdevices off an existing filesys?
[15:37] <cyr1> Fezzler1 : ah ok, yea then if the bad HDD is just your OS, then you might frankly be better off just doing a reinstall on the new hdd, and then just trying to pull specific files off the bad HDD if needed
[15:37] <Pici> TbotNik: That is the correct name
[15:37] <egoleo> u can do sudo apt-cache search php-mysq
[15:37] <egoleo> l
[15:37] <TbotNik> Pici: Then why the error say wrong package name?
[15:37] <Fezzler1> cyr1> Well see.  I'm enjoying learning / trying dd.  Maybe it will work
[15:38] <cyr1> Fezzler1 : bottom line is, if it's throwing errors, you are losing SOME data somewhere, it may or not be important data
[15:38] <n8tuser> reaktae -> come again? can you clarify?
[15:38] <cyr1> Fezzler1 : and when I say that I mean specifically on the OS drive
[15:39] <Fezzler1> cyr1> throwing a lot of errors, 195 7286 kB
[15:39] <RachedTN> hello
[15:39] <TbotNik> egoleo, bazhang, pici: Is one of the mirror servers down?
[15:39] <Fezzler1> cyr1> I wonder if it read okay and it isn't writing well.
[15:39] <Maveas> !iso remove
[15:39] <reaktae> n8tuser: i need a solution (preferably a bootloader) to load an image file, mount it as a loop device and install a system on that device
[15:39] <cfedde> Since my upgrade to 8.10 gnome terminal "open Link" is broken.  How can I fix that?
[15:40] <cyr1> Fezzler1 : well that would be bad, as it would mean your 'new' hdd is bad ;-)
[15:40] <Fezzler1> cyr1> Ouch
[15:40] <cyr1> Fezzler1 : i doubt thats the case though
[15:40] <HWANG> hey I was able to dual boot on my pc but now  im afraid i might have wiped my windows system on my laptop.  is there any way to check? I found code to add to my grub.cfg but i found nothing with that exact file name
[15:40] <cyr1> Fezzler1 : the most obvious thing to be happening is since the old HDD was failing, it still is failing and you're having problems reading some sectors in the copy
[15:41] <Raylz> HWANG: can you mount your partition?
[15:41] <n8tuser> reaktae -> umm, bootloader do load the image file, but not as loop device,-- you can not load bootloader at the same time installing
[15:41] <HWANG> I allowed ubuntu to do a guided
[15:41] <Maveas> How to unmount?
[15:41] <Maveas> !unmount
[15:41] <Maveas> !mount
[15:41] <Raylz> HWANG: guided is bad
[15:41] <HWANG> how do i try that?
[15:41] <Raylz> HWANG: it means using the whole space of your harddisk
[15:41] <HWANG> oops
[15:41] <OpenBSDRulzs_> !umount | Maveas
[15:41] <Fezzler1> cyr1> I think you are right
[15:41] <HWANG> so i ate windows
[15:41] <Raylz> HWANG: only makes sense when you got more than 1 hd
[15:42] <HWANG> ok
[15:42] <Raylz> HWANG: will be less problem than you think ;)
[15:42] <cyr1> Fezzler1 : is this a production system, or just a desktop?
[15:42] <HWANG> what will?
[15:42] <Fezzler1> cyr1> desktop - home hobby box
[15:42] <reaktae> n8tuser: sorry for the confusion - basically i'm trying to manually do what wubi does... i can't seem to find the right tools though
[15:42] <Raylz> HWANG: you get around pretty fine with wine
[15:42] <TbotNik> egoleo, bazhang, pici: The link egoleo gave me to: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Gutsy#MySQL, says "apt-get install mysql-server-5.0" which I did last Thurs and was successful, so moved the box, thinking all was good and now no MySQL. Since now depending on inet, not CD, still must get this build of PHP/MySQL right, so I can connect.  Kinda squeezed here.  Supposed to demo new site code at 2:00 pm so only 4 hours left to have it right.
[15:43] <HWANG> ya i mean i think im ok with my files its just my gf also uses this
[15:43] <n8tuser> reaktae -> you want to re-invent wubi? why not go see how the wubi code work?
[15:43] <Raylz> HWANG: ah ok :S
[15:43] <HWANG> and i think  i need a keyring password to get online? im not sure i havent restarted since it made me set keyring
[15:44] <RachedTN> i have installed UbuntuServer 8.04 (32 bit) using VirtualBox, but when I restart, I get this message : this kernel requires the following features not present on your cpu  : 0.6
[15:44] <Raylz> HWANG: keyring saves your passwords
[15:44] <RachedTN> Unable to boot -please use a kernel appropriate for your CPU
[15:44] <Raylz> HWANG: i dont think you need any passwords to get online
[15:44] <RachedTN> did any one kno, what's the pb ?
[15:44] <n8tuser> HWANG -> if you do    sudo  fdisk -l    on a terminal  can you see the windows partition listed?
[15:44] <Raylz> HWANG: except for pidgin and mail
[15:44] <TbotNik> egoleo, bazhang, pici: Since running "apt-get install php5-mysql" errors per PB at:  http://pastebin.ca/1266671,  What do you suggest as way to get this going?
[15:44] <cyr1> Fezzler1 : well nod, heck just let it run, see how it goes, it's a good experience to try in a situation that is not 'data threatening'
[15:45] <erUSUL> RachedTN: you are suing a 64 bit kernel on a 32 bit only cpu
[15:45] <Raylz> n8tuser: he used the guided option of the installer
[15:45] <HWANG> and im not sure if OOO is going to line everything up in windows? say if i were to attach a .doc or .ppt to a professor im not sure if it would have the same look in reg office
[15:45] <HWANG> ill check
[15:45] <n8tuser> Raylz -> it does not matter, that command can still be run
[15:45] <Raylz> n8tuser: i know
[15:45] <TbotNik> egoleo, bazhang, pici: Did I misspell something?
[15:45] <RachedTN> erUSUL: I have a dualcore CPU, and i have ubuntu desktop (32 installed on my machine (x86)
[15:46] <n8tuser> Raylz -> so what is the point?
[15:46] <Raylz> HWANG: if i have to export something i use pdf
[15:46] <egoleo> yes i sure
[15:46] <Fezzler1> cyr1> Yup - 2008 personal goal - learn Linux - I say trying to clone a hd using dd means I did pretty good.
[15:46] <GreenDeltaLaptop> Hey, i try to install my nvidia driver manualy, and at the end i get this ERROR: Unable to find the kernel source tree for the currently running kernel. Etc... what shall i do now?
[15:46] <HWANG> for anything?
[15:46] <Raylz> n8tuser: dunno, pretty shure win is wiped off ;)
[15:46] <raddy> Hello Everybody
[15:46] <n8tuser> HWANG -> if you do    sudo  fdisk -l    on a terminal  can you see the windows partition listed?  <-- have done this yet?
[15:46] <Raylz> HWANG: you can do powerpoint presentations with pdfs too
[15:47] <raddy> Is it possible to set root folder path for IMap account in Gnome-Evolution?
[15:47] <HWANG> nohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
[15:47] <HWANG> no im joking i dont care that much
[15:47] <ikonia> HWANG please stop
[15:47] <ikonia> HWANG: this is a busy support channel, please try to keep it on topic
[15:47] <reaktae> n8tuser: does wubi listen for any command lines params? i don't think i'll understand its c++ code but i read that it combines a few other existing tools - i was hoping to just follow wubi's steps using those. do i make any sense?
[15:47] <TbotNik> egoleo, bazhang, pici: The link egoleo gave me to: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Gutsy#MySQL, says "apt-get install mysql-server-5.0" which I did last Thurs and was successful, so moved the box, thinking all was good and now no MySQL. Since now depending on inet, not CD, still must get this build of PHP/MySQL right, so I can connect.  Kinda squeezed here.  Supposed to demo new site code at 2:00 pm so only 4 hours left to have it right.
[15:47] <erUSUL> RachedTN: ahhh the ubuntu server kernel does not work on VBOx becouse Vbox does not emulates PAE
[15:47] <HWANG> well i found out that it was deleted
[15:48] <erUSUL> RachedTN: iirc
[15:48] <GreenDeltaLaptop> Hey, i try to install my nvidia driver manualy, and at the end i get this ERROR: Unable to find the kernel source tree for the currently running kernel. Etc... what shall i do now?
[15:48] <Raylz> HWANG: so i guess you gotta buy some roses ;)
[15:48] <gnx_> hi
[15:48] <RachedTN> erUSUL: So, do I have to install Xen, or what ?
[15:48] <gnx_> i need help
[15:49] <reaktae> GreenDeltaLaptop: download the kernel source from your repos
[15:49] <HWANG> haha true
[15:49] <Raylz> gnx_: just ask
[15:49] <HWANG> cya thankk
[15:49] <GreenDeltaLaptop> reaktae: how exactly do i do that?
[15:49] <n8tuser> reaktae -> i dont know the intimate details of wubi, but at the macro level, it seems one has to understand the ntfs and xp bootloader mechanism..
[15:49] <gnx_> i need to install an uml generation for fortran code
[15:50] <cfedde> Since my upgrade to 8.10 gnome terminal "open Link" is broken.  Does anyone know how I fix that?
[15:50] <reaktae> GreenDeltaLaptop: use Synaptic. there's also a chance you already have it and the nvidia driver doesn't know where to look for it - check the installer for possible parameters to point it in the right direction...
[15:50] <Fezzler1> cyr1> reading, the errors may be just ddrescue trying to read bad blocks that I can clean up with fsck after cloning - possibly
[15:50] <Raylz> gnx_: you mean an editor? i use umbrello
[15:50] <Ujjwol_> guys do u know
[15:50] <Ujjwol_> www.fedoraproject.org
[15:50] <Ujjwol_> Fedora 10 has released.....
[15:50] <cyr1> Fezzler1 : potentially, especially if you have alot of free disk space
[15:50] <Raylz> Ujjwol_: yes :)
[15:50] <|1313|> anyone?
[15:51] <|1313|> hi all i just bought myself a zyxel GS-105B switch and cant get any internet connection to work
[15:51] <ikonia> Ujjwol_ stop, don't bother
[15:51] <|1313|> it works on windows but not on ubuntu
[15:51] <TbotNik> egoleo, bazhang, pici: Has the "php5-mysql" package had a version upgrade so that it is  "php5.x-mysql" or something?
[15:51] <Raylz> Ujjwol_: but rpm isnt that good ;)
[15:51] <ikonia> Raylz: don't feed please
[15:51] <gnx_> Raylz: umbrelo a try , but you shure tah is posible run whit fortran code
[15:51] <cyr1> troll troll troll hah
[15:51] <ikonia> cyr1 stop please, just ignore it and move on
[15:52] <TbotNik> egoleo, bazhang, pici: How/Where do we check for latest packages online?
[15:52] <Raylz> gnx_: i dont know, just check it out; its called umbrello with double l
[15:52] <gnx_> ok i try
[15:52] <TbotNik> egoleo, bazhang, pici: Would running the upgrade procedure fix this?
[15:53] <gnx_> uf is kde..
[15:53] <TbotNik> egoleo: You there?
[15:53] <Raylz> gnx_: ye, unfortunately
[15:53] <gnx_> i dont. like soo much kde
[15:53] <TbotNik> bazhang: You there?
[15:53] <TbotNik> Pici: You there?
[15:53] <Raylz> gnx_: but i dont know anything else
[15:53] <reaktae> n8tuser: i believe i do understand the mechanism pretty good. it just sounded dumb the way i worded what i was trying to do..
[15:53] <reaktae> n8tuser: thanks for your help tho :)
[15:53] <GreenDeltaLaptop> reaktae: what exactly is the name of the Package?
[15:54] <UnknownUser56> !grub
[15:54] <Raylz> !umbrelly
[15:54] <Raylz> !umbrello
[15:55] <gnx_> Raylz: no , no run whit frontran sources
[15:55] <GreenDeltaLaptop> reaktae: what exactly is the name of the Package (Kernel Source Files)?
[15:55] <Raylz> gnx_: sry  :S
[15:56] <reaktae> GreenDeltaLaptop: not sure - haven't done that in a year or so. do a search for your kernel version and then the package would have -src and the end
[15:56] <Lucifer_> !weed
[15:56] <Lucifer_> noob
[15:56] <GreenDeltaLaptop> reaktae: how do i get my kernel version?
[15:56] <dschulz> haha
[15:56] <Raylz> GreenDeltaLaptop: uname -r
[15:56] <gnx_> yesterday i try with many uml generation but with never i can generated a uml code to fortran sources
[15:57] <Fezzler1> cyr1> I think fsck will Clear the bad blocks once done
[15:57]  * Raylz 4 min remaining akku :/
[15:57] <le00> !shaggy
[15:57] <reaktae> !wubi
[15:57] <reaktae> !ubuntustudio
[15:57] <GreenDeltaLaptop> reaktae: uname -r brings: 2.6.24-19-generic
[15:58] <GreenDeltaLaptop> reaktae: but the package with -src at the end does not exist
[15:58] <Raylz> GreenDeltaLaptop: i dont think its called -src
[15:58] <Raylz> GreenDeltaLaptop: its -source
[15:59] <reaktae> GreenDeltaLaptop: sorry about that - it's been a while.
[15:59] <GreenDeltaLaptop> np
[15:59] <Raylz> GreenDeltaLaptop: just search the output of uname -r in syncaptic
[15:59] <silici0> exit
[15:59] <Lucifer_> !eggdrop
[15:59] <silici0> ops
[16:00] <InitMass> projector problem. when the cable to the projector is connected when logging in to X i get the correct resolution (1280x800) on the laptop and the projector. On the projector my quicklaunch icons are gone and so are my directories on the desktop. in addition i have a new panel at the bottom and some other icons in the status bar. the background is shown correctly and so is the theme. what could be the problem?
[16:00] <GreenDeltaLaptop> Raylz: if i do that i get 3 installed packages, but no packages with source
[16:00] <Raylz> GreenDeltaLaptop: sec, i look it up myself ;)
[16:01] <InitMass> i also want to add that no programs or directories that i open are shown on the projector but only on the laptop
[16:01] <edvard> can anyone help me with installing the 180.06 nvidia drivers please?
[16:02] <Raylz> GreenDeltaLaptop: interesting, its missing in ibex
[16:02] <GreenDeltaLaptop> Raylz: damn. how can i fix thta
[16:02] <master_> hi
[16:02] <edvard> anyone?
[16:03] <Raylz> GreenDeltaLaptop: dont mind if i go off suddenly, low akku ;)
[16:03] <GreenDeltaLaptop> Raylz: ok.
[16:03] <master_> hi where can i get help for sound problems on ubunto
[16:03] <Raylz> GreenDeltaLaptop: it seems, that the source comes now with the kernel image
[16:03] <Raylz> GreenDeltaLaptop: take a look into /usr/src
[16:03] <GreenDeltaLaptop> Raylz: ok so if the image is installed the source should be thee
[16:04] <GreenDeltaLaptop> Raylz: *moment*
[16:04] <GreenDeltaLaptop> Raylz: there i have some headers, an nvidiadriver dir and a rpm dir
[16:05] <Raylz> GreenDeltaLaptop: lol, k then it has been thrown out of the repo
[16:05] <erUSUL> !nvidia | edvard
[16:06] <Raylz> GreenDeltaLaptop: dont know why, but you can try www.kernel.org
[16:06] <Raylz> GreenDeltaLaptop: the 27 kernel is online
[16:06] <Jimmey> I have just installed 8.10 and because I have a separate /home, my old desktop config. was saved - But I can't get the new network manager onto my panel. Does anyone know how I could do that?
[16:06] <master_> plz can sone one tell me how i can get sound on ubuntu ??? i geting sound on both fedora and windows
[16:06] <GreenDeltaLaptop> Raylz: what shall i do with this kernel then?
[16:07] <Raylz> GreenDeltaLaptop: what do you want in general with the source?
[16:07] <nerb> master_, sound card driver.
[16:07] <master_> yes driver is installed
[16:07] <nerb> hm
[16:07] <nerb> not muted?
[16:07] <Lucifer_> master_: try Volume button
[16:07] <master_> no
[16:07] <Raylz> GreenDeltaLaptop: missed the conversation
[16:07] <GreenDeltaLaptop> Raylz: my nvidia driver needs them
[16:07] <TbotNik> egoleo, bazhang, pici: Went to the install page at:  http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Gutsy#How_to_install_Apache_and_PHP5 and ran the "aptitude install php5 libapache2-mod-php5" which was successful.  Ran the restart and check, but no change, still no entry for the mysql extension in the php.ini file.  Am I going to have to run a find on this and do it manually?
[16:07] <Raylz> GreenDeltaLaptop: nvidia drivers only need the headers
[16:08] <GreenDeltaLaptop> Raylz: ok
[16:08] <GreenDeltaLaptop> Raylz: i get the error that he is missing the kernel source tree files
[16:08] <GreenDeltaLaptop> Raylz: so what EXACTLY shall i do now?
[16:08] <NicEXE> how can I disable the MySQL server (and also not to start on every startup)
[16:08] <Raylz> GreenDeltaLaptop: try sudo apt-get install linux-headers-`uname -r`
[16:09] <Raylz> GreenDeltaLaptop: 1 min remaining :/
[16:09] <genii> NicEXE: Without uninstalling it?
[16:10] <NicEXE> without uninstalling it
[16:10] <edvard> thanks for the link, but im trying to install the 180.06 driver which doesnt come with Ubuntu
[16:10] <Raylz> GreenDeltaLaptop: if it doesnt work at all, compile the kernel urself with --oldconfig
[16:10] <GreenDeltaLaptop> Raylz: than i get that its not available, but referenced by other packages.
[16:10] <phreaker> hello!
[16:10] <genii> NicEXE: Make /etc/init.d/mysql    not executable
[16:11] <phreaker> i'm using ubuntu 8.10 (intrepid) and i really need to install libvlc0-dev and the old version of vlc because i'm developing a project that uses the old vlc libs
[16:11] <GreenDeltaLaptop> Raylz: sh nvidia3.run --oldconfig says that its an unrecognized option
[16:11] <phreaker> can anyone tell me how to do that?
[16:11] <nerb> ubuntu FTL
[16:12] <TbotNik> All, trying to add manually the MySQL extension to my php.ini file.  What do I run find for?
[16:12] <NicEXE> genii: there is no sutch file on that directory
[16:13] <TbotNik> All am I looking for .so or .dll?
[16:13] <joaopinto> TbotNik, you dont need to that manually on ubuntu, you just need to install the mysql php module package
[16:13] <GreenDeltaLaptop> Raylz: for the nvidia driver is a command --kernel-source-path
[16:13] <kharloss> hi there. maybe i`m offtopic, but i found someinfos and i can`t get any answers.so .  any vyatta user here ?
[16:13] <GreenDeltaLaptop> Raylz: what shall i do there
[16:14] <TbotNik> joaopinto: Been trying but always get error.
[16:14] <winenvine> Hi All, I ran a PDF with GIMP once, ever since the Document viewer does not open PDF, does anyone know how I can fix that?
[16:15] <genii> NicEXE: Does:  apt-cache policy mysql-server                     show that it is installed?
[16:16] <NicEXE> genii: weird... installed: (none)
[16:16] <phreaker> i'm using ubuntu 8.10 (intrepid) and the only libvlc available is libvlc2. I really need to install libvlc0-dev and the old version of vlc because i'm developing a project that uses the old vlc libs. How do I do that?
[16:16] <TbotNik> All what is "/" cmd to display last?
[16:16] <ftehw> I'm considering swaping 8.10 i386 for 8.10 x64.  Primarily for the promise of easy access to my full 4 gigs of memory and better multimedia performance.  I'm reluctant because i've heard that web plugins (flash, java, real, etc.) are fussy with x64.  Can anybody confirm that?  If so, does that mean that these plugins are unusable in 64-bit or just a Pain in A to get to work?
[16:19] <genii> NicEXE: Thats why then
[16:20] <lagann_> phreaker, how about uninstall that one and install the ones from hardy?
[16:20] <lagann_> http://packages.ubuntu.com/hardy/libvlc0-dev
[16:20] <TbotNik> egoleo, bazhang, Pici: You all still there?
[16:20] <phreaker> lagann_, if I do that there will be no conflicts?
[16:20] <Pici> TbotNik: Yes?
[16:20] <egoleo> yes
[16:20] <egoleo> i am here
[16:20] <GreenDeltaLaptop> ok, i have this problem: i'm trying to install my nvidia driver and i have 2.6.24-19-generic. the driver says he cant compile because he cant find the kernel source tree. when i look in /usr/src i cant find any folder with my kernel name in. but in synaptic all packages with my kernel name are installed. What can i do?
[16:21] <mircmac> I have tried both hardy and intrepid with my 3945 wireless and a wap that is 802.11b, it shows a connection on the wap log, but can't ping the wap or the rest of the net, same result for wep or open, any ideas?