[19:26] <hgrover> and I thought this would be a better place to find LTSP info.  I can go there, though
[19:26] <flaminioc> !lista
[19:26] <scunizi> jortizlinux4pr: yes
[19:26] <xnmrph> UUID=5FA78247049AC963 	/media/1602	ntfs	defaults,locale-en_GB.UTF-8 0 1
[19:26] <DasEi1> xnmrph: fdisk -l / acces possible ? last check via gparted-gui ?
[19:26] <ActionParsnip> jortizlinux4pr: you will upgrade seamlessly as you already have the repos
[19:26] <flaminioc> !list
[19:26] <matancur_> thx
[19:26] <dust> wizared: lol, in mplayer the .avi was deleted hehehe
[19:26] <xnmrph> fdisk reports both these as GPT still. Id of 0xee(!)
[19:27] <jortizlinux4pr> scunizi: thanks
[19:27] <scunizi> jortizlinux4pr: np
[19:27] <thule> i hate openGL!
[19:27] <dust> wizared: ok my mplayer is totally broken
[19:27] <xnmrph> DasEi1, fdisk isn't right by the looks of it.
[19:27] <ActionParsnip> thule: why, its an industry standard library
[19:27] <dust> wizared: was there update in medibuntu ?
[19:28] <xnmrph> DasEi1, gparted reports both drives as ntfs
[19:28] <thule> ActionParsnip: do you know why i've   this error: invalid use of ‘GLvoid’
[19:28] <DasEi1> xnmrph: though system has ntfsprogs / ~3g  installed ?
[19:29] <thule> ActionParsnip: I've installed all library freeglut3-dev, build-essential
[19:29] <xnmrph> DasEi1: How do I check that ?
[19:29] <wizared> dust: ?
[19:29] <thule> ActionParsnip: i've libgl.so libglu.so and all include file like glu.h and gl.h
[19:29] <ActionParsnip> thule: what are you trying to compile?
[19:29] <Lartza_> How do I determine what sound backend is in use(pulseaudio etc.)
[19:30] <dust> wizared: what os, i use pc
[19:30] <dust> wizared: ubuntu
[19:30] <thule> ActionParsnip: g++ namefile.cpp -lGL -lGLU -lglut -o file
[19:30] <dust> wizared: woned why all music/player software are 2speaker only
[19:30] <dust> even center front aint working
[19:30] <dust> just with vlc
[19:30] <Pici> !enter
[19:30] <DasEi1> xnmrph: see the upper given command , sec
[19:31] <xnmrph> DasEi1: I recall installing ntfsprogs so I could format drives through gparted to ntfs. But I don't know how to check if that is a fact or what I 'seem to remember'
[19:31] <thule> ActionParsnip: in university lab there is no problem, while at home i've this error
[19:31] <NativeAngels> hello can anyone here tell me why when i login has the apps panel dissapeared
[19:31] <ActionParsnip> thule: http://www.opengl.org/discussion_boards/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=243052
[19:32] <ActionParsnip> thule: you may find you have a later gcc version
[19:32] <thule> ActionParsnip: ok! thank you!
[19:32] <seb-> Is everyone getting bit by the $HOME/.gvfs bug? I noticed all newer version still have this bug.  Is there any fix?  Can I turn off gvfs? I don't even know if i need it
[19:33] <wizared> does anyone know what "no stream found to handle url dvd://1" means
[19:34] <ActionParsnip> wizared: have you installed libdvdcss2
[19:34] <wizared> ActionParsnip: yes
[19:34] <Pici> seb-: What bug is that?
[19:34] <MartianW> I'm going to handle some sensitive files, and I'd like to prevent them leaking from a specific folder through autosave or some other suchlike unknown feature. So I thought I'd create a user with permissions to modify only that folder and then use su to run the program that uses them. Would that work?
[19:35] <DasEi1> xnmrph: I gave you that line above ; sudo apt-get install ntfsprogs ntfs-3g
[19:35] <ActionParsnip> wizared: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mplayer/+bug/197068
[19:35] <seb-> MartianW: root could still read those files
[19:35] <xnmrph> DasEi1, they're already installed
[19:36] <MartianW> seb-, that would be fine. I'm just worried about them being saved somewhere else while unencrypted.
[19:36] <DasEi1> xnmrph: so can you access the content again now ?
[19:36] <seb-> MartianW: can you put them in a directory you know isn't saved? i'm not aware of any "autosave" feature
[19:37] <xnmrph> DasEi1, Yes, since I remounted. There are two things I don't understand, though. 1) Why Ubuntu tried to mount a device that didn't exist, though (/dev/sda1 was in fstab but didn't exist according to gparted AND fdisk). 2) Why fdisk is reporting these file systems as GPT when they are NTFS (which is what gparted reports them as)
[19:39] <ActionParsnip> xnmrph: it may be in fstab as a UUID instead of /dev/<whatever>
[19:39] <ActionParsnip> !blkid
[19:39] <MartianW> seb-, I'm worried that the software that will be modifying them has a bug that would make a copy somewhere else.
[19:39] <xnmrph> ActionParsnip, it wasn't in fstab as UUID. I only just added it.
[19:39] <ActionParsnip> xnmrph: ok, was worth a shot
[19:40] <WoLf_Loonie> Hello, and sorry to disturb. I'm having a small issue with APT.. I can't find how to configure it to NOT use ipv6.
[19:40] <seb-> MartianW: perhaps run that software chroot?
[19:40] <DasEi1> xnmrph: at bootup and with your otion defaults ubuntu "works"  through fstab, drive not found > see dmesg or syslog;  fdisk / gpt is strange to me, maybe cause of mtab, try hdparm -t z  again or even restart hal
[19:40] <DasEi1> hparm -z *
[19:40] <Turtle_> use Hello, Android to type an entire paragraph just for fun
[19:41] <Turtle_> I am new to programming and this is a great OS to begin with
[19:41] <wizared> unable to mount media. any one know what that means
[19:41] <MartianW> seb-, that sounds perfect. So it won't be able to touch anything outside of the chroot enviroment?
[19:41] <Turtle_> it means that it is unable to mount your disc or drive or card or what have you
[19:41] <seb-> wizared: could mean anything....you may need to be root
[19:41] <seb-> MartianW: yup
[19:41] <MartianW> Thanks a lot.
[19:42] <Turtle_> oh i am going to android
[19:42] <Turtle_> bye
[19:42] <xnmrph> DasEi1, I already tried that a few times and fdisk still reports them as GPT. Like I said, there are Virtualbox HDDs (vdis) on these partitions that ARE GPT as I have a virtual Freenas RAID1 array running across these two IDE drives. But they are formatted for NTFS for the purposes of Ubuntu. It's as though something can see the content of the partitions and mistakenly reports them as GPT/UFS
[19:42] <jokoon> Hello, I have the community driven ubuntu build for powerpc, since 1 week or so it doesn't update anymore (can't update package info) are the powerpc repo down ?
[19:42] <ActionParsnip> WoLf_Loonie: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=87798
[19:43] <DasEi1> xnmrph: it'll be the raid, the vbox-'hd's are haandled as files
[19:44] <WoLf_Loonie> ActionParsnip: not what I need, sorry. I use IPv6. I just want to disable it under apt
[19:44] <WoLf_Loonie> And that "turn off ipv6" is the only answer I found searching on internet =(
[19:45] <RAMco> hi all
[19:45] <xnmrph> DasEi1, What do you mean by "it'll be the RAID" ? On these IDE drives I have the following. An Ubuntu virtual HDD, a 70GB RAID virtual HDD on one drive. On the other is a Freenas 128MB virtual HDD and the other virtual RAID HDD (70GB)
[19:45] <RAMco> i need some help with installing a driver for my webcam on ubuntu
[19:46] <ActionParsnip> !webcam | RAMco
[19:46] <xnmrph> DasEi1, but these are just files, right? Just files that pretend to be a HDD to Virtualbox. I don't see how anything could mistake them for the partition type
[19:46] <RAMco> ActionParsnip,  i have looked at that site and still have issues
[19:47] <Brucevdk> RAMco: is your webcam listed as supported?
[19:47] <RAMco> yes
[19:47] <RAMco> Brucevdk, yes it is
[19:48] <Brucevdk> RAMco: so what kind of issues are you having?
[19:48] <DasEi1> xnmrph: so you created a 70 g raid partiton on each ide, where did you set the raid ? ubuntu or vbox ?
[19:48] <RAMco> well i downloaded the driver and when i run "make" i get an error 2
[19:49] <Brucevdk> RAMco: what instructions are you following?
[19:49] <ActionParsnip> RAMco: did you install build-essential
[19:49] <RAMco> Brucevdk,  im new to linux so i dont understand that much
[19:49] <RAMco> ActionParsnip,  yes i did
[19:49] <wizared> How do you find the mount point for a dvd if its not in mount
[19:50] <xnmrph> DasEI1, I created a virtual machine in Vbox with 3 virtual HDDs. On one IDE drive (160GB), I put 1x128MB HDD for Freenas and 1x70GB HDD. On the other IDE drive I put 1x70GB HDD. I then installed Freenas onto this Vbox then told it to build a RAID1 array using the two 70GB virtual HDDs
[19:50] <RAMco> ActionParsnip,  i ran this command for the build-essential
[19:50] <RAMco> ActionParsnip,  sudo apt-get install build-essential
[19:50] <xnmrph> DasEi1, Do you follow so far ?
[19:51] <Flesje> Apr 20 20:02:33 srv01 kernel: [11047.544578] exim[12214]: segfault at 8 rip 81ea985 rsp ffa58460 error 4
[19:51] <Flesje> how to fix that?
[19:51] <Brucevdk> RAMco: as I asked before, what instructions are you following? Link?
[19:51] <ActionParsnip> RAMco: ok can you pastebin the output of ./configure when you have your pwd in the source folder
[19:51] <sporkboy> does anybody understand this new gpsbabel usb format? I can't get it to work. used to just use /dev/ttyUSB0
[19:51] <Brucevdk> ActionParsnip: I'll let you take this one ;-)
[19:51] <RAMco> Brucevdk,  well i extacted the driver
[19:52] <RAMco> Brucevdk,  navigated to the folder and run the command make thats where im stuck and none of the software recognize the webcam, but when i run "lsusb" its there
[19:52] <xnmrph> DasEi1: The IDE drives that I am creating these virtual HDDs on are BOTH formatted for NTFS by gparted in Ubuntu. Only the virtual machine knows that these virtual RAID drives are formatted for UFS/GPT as Freenas is based on FreeBSD which uses that file format.
[19:52] <RAMco> ActionParsnip,  ok just a min
[19:53] <ActionParsnip> RAMco: configure is usually needed before make
[19:53] <ActionParsnip> !paste | RAMco
[19:53] <RAMco> ActionParsnip,  what do u mean ./configure ?
[19:54] <ActionParsnip> RAMco: cd into the source folder with the makefile file, type the command
[19:54] <ActionParsnip> RAMco: ./configure
[19:54] <DasEi1> xnmrph: though I do, but that becomes overhelming, as I can't imagine how the vbox or the installer of it's inside apps set up their raid info, don't think guessing what irritates fdisk makes sense so; you can access them again, fire up vbox and try
[19:54] <purvesh> any 1 know how 2 run php file at ubuntu i had installed php in my pc
[19:55] <geto> after a regular install, anything else need to be done with security or whatever?
[19:55] <RAMco> ActionParsnip,  this is what i get bash: ./configure: No such file or directory
[19:55] <DasEi1> geto: google ubuntu perfekt desktop
[19:55] <geto> OK
[19:55] <meshuggah_> ok
[19:56] <ActionParsnip> geto: no not really, you can install a firewall if you wish, if you are behind a router its not really needed
[19:56] <meshuggah_> The_Acadien, ask your ubuntulog question there
[19:56] <ActionParsnip> RAMco: ok then jump to make
[19:56] <xnmrph> DasEi1, vbox doesn't care. It's just running Freenas as far as I am concerned and Freenas is building a software RAID1 array on the two 70GB HDDs that I provide to it. There is no simulated hardware RAID controller in vbox. It's all software.
[19:56] <meshuggah_> hello caty
[19:56] <geto> OK, I am behind a router.  I was just wondering.
[19:56] <caty> meshuggah_, hey
[19:56] <n2diy> my dvd player stopped auto mounting?
[19:57] <xnmrph> DasEi1. I've restarted the Freenas vm and it is moaning about the RAID1 array being degraded so it's rebuilding it now (after I had to force a removal of the "missing" drive then re-add it)
[19:57] <DasEi1> xnmrph: so I have no clue then, if restarting hal or reboot doesn't change, file a bug ?
[19:57] <The_Acadien> hey
[19:57] <The_Acadien> can anyone help me with ubuntu a ran into a problem ?
[19:57] <RAMco> Brucevdk, http://paste.ubuntu.com/154882/ these are the steps im using
[19:57] <mib_p50jee9q> can anyone help me with a freezing dvd player?
[19:57] <xnmrph> DasEi1, What is HAL and how would I restart it? Is that some kind of automounting daemon?
[19:57] <ActionParsnip> geto: you should run: sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get dist-upgrade    this will give you full updates
[19:58] <DasEi1> xnmrph: I can only guess there on your setup, so I'll stop it; HAL= hardware abstraction layer
[19:58] <DasEi1> !hal
[19:58] <mib_p50jee9q> media playter lets me play cd's, but not dvds
[19:58] <ActionParsnip> RAMco: 1. Users can compile  2. You should NOT use sudo su
[19:58] <xnmrph> DasEi1, OK, that's strange. One of the virtual HDDs has not gone missing. I give up ;-)
[19:58] <geto> Yea, I have updated a lot.
[19:58] <ActionParsnip> mib_p50jee9q: have you got libdvdcss2 installed
[19:58] <xnmrph> now = not
[19:59] <mib_p50jee9q> is that a codec addon?
[19:59] <mib_p50jee9q> or, how can i check?
[19:59] <DasEi1> xnmrph: just little bit harder.. O:-)
[19:59] <xangua> mib_p50jee9q: libdvdcss2 is aviable in Medibuntu repository
[20:00] <ActionParsnip> !medibuntu | mib_p50jee9q
[20:00] <xnmrph> DasEi1: Moral of the story? Don't try to build a virtual Freenas system with software RAID1 on Virtualbox in Ubuntu.
[20:00] <xangua> mib_p50jee9q: it is used to play comercial dvd¿s
[20:00] <dmonkey17> I have a linux box. When I log into the box remotely, I want to run a script, but only from remote locations (ie. not when I login at the box itself). Are there environment variables I can use, or some program that will query if I'm looging in remotely or not?
[20:01] <DasEi1> xnmrph: or ask, learn more checks, repair acces and read the nice manual, find out where that raid-info gets stored
[20:01] <mib_p50jee9q> oh yes, i did download that
[20:01] <purvesh> ubottu: do u know how 2 run php file at ubuntu i had installed php in my pc
[20:01] <RAMco> ActionParsnip,  ok i will try
[20:01] <ActionParsnip> purvesh: php <file>  maybe
[20:01] <n2diy> my dvd player stopped auto mounting?
[20:01] <ActionParsnip> RAMco: sudo su is not advised in ubuntu, if you use sudo -i you will get better results
[20:01] <xnmrph> DasEi1, I can't be arsed ;-) I've spent enough time on this already.
[20:01] <purvesh> ActionParsnip: ya
[20:02] <Pici> dmonkey17: check for existence of $SSH_CLIENT or $SSH_CONNECTION or $SSH_TTY
[20:03] <RAMco> ActionParsnip,  thanks i used sudo -i and i did not get the error
[20:03] <RAMco> ActionParsnip, whats the diff between sudo su and sudo -i
[20:03] <MarkJones> When they release 8.04.3 point release what are the chances of having the same hardware support as 8.10 as far as sound cards etc go? Will they add a new kernel or anything?
[20:03] <ActionParsnip> RAMco: ubuntu is made to NOT use the root accout, the fact that yours is disabled reduces the security of your system
[20:03] <ActionParsnip> *enabled
[20:04] <DasEi1> xnmrph: anyway, I'd rather check to have 0 or 1 on one hd (partis) and also in a multi-environment usee uuid in the vm's, as vbox also comunnicates with the host OS, somwhwere there
[20:04] <dmonkey17> Oh I should have mentioned that I login using a XDMCP protocol. Thanks anyway.
[20:05] <rtk126> Hello everyone! So I'm looking to remote backup few ubuntu servers. I want a single account, but different permissions... Anyone knows a good solution?
[20:05] <DasEi1> xnmrph: I leave that now, as I can't help further
[20:05] <xnmrph> DasEi1: What do you mean? I'm a little bit at the mercy of Freenas since it's all web interface controlled. What it decides to do is it's business. I just provide the virtual HDDs and point it to them. It should just work
[20:05] <Guest11821> hey I'm trying to install something, and the instructions say "Build librtm first, then rtm-dataengine and finally the plasmoid." ...how do I build something?
[20:05] <DasEi1> xnmrph: I leave that now, as I can't help further
[20:05] <xnmrph> DasEi1, OK, thanks for your felp
[20:05] <purvesh> ActionParsnip: but it is only run at my /var/www  directory
[20:05] <xangua> Guest11821: what are you trying to install¿
[20:06] <xnmrph> help
[20:06] <ActionParsnip> purvesh: its not something I use, try in #php
[20:06] <Toad> hey all... what's the best channel to ask about hosting unofficial apt repos?
[20:06] <Guest11821> xangua: a plasmoid for kubuntu...
[20:06] <Brucevdk> rtk126: elaborate "single account, but different permissions"
[20:06] <phisher1> sorry, farging w/ firewall
[20:06] <purvesh> ActionParsnip: i dont unterstand
[20:07] <DasEi1> !ot > Toad
[20:07] <Toad> I work for an OSS company that's distributing some debs, and need a couple tips for how to structure our apt repository
[20:07] <RAMco> ActionParsnip,  thanks for the info, as i said before im very new to linux systems do u recommend a site when i can get a complete "idiots" :) guide to lurnin linux and ubuntu ??
[20:07] <ActionParsnip> purvesh: maybe the guys in #php can advise
[20:07] <Toad> DasEi1: how is that OT?
[20:07] <dmonkey17> Just to make it clear -- how can I tell if I am logged in remotely via XDMCP?
[20:07] <rtk126> Brucevdk: We have multiple divisions, so I would like divisions to use the same billing account, and if possible our master admin to see all backups, but each division to only have access to their own backups
[20:07] <ActionParsnip> RAMco: websearching and use. I strongly recommend you re-disable your root account that you enabled for some strange reason
[20:07] <DasEi1> Toad: not at all, last lwast
[20:08] <NoOneImportant> is there an eclipse package that doesn't depend on gcj?
[20:08] <ActionParsnip> !info eclipse
[20:08] <ActionParsnip> hmm
[20:08] <RAMco> ActionParsnip,  how do i do that ?
[20:08] <NoOneImportant> AFAIK, it requires gcj
[20:08] <wizared> how do i get my cdrom to auto mount
[20:08] <purvesh> ActionParsnip: in which network i contact him
[20:08] <scunizi> RAMco: here's a start.. download the pdf.. http://www.ubuntupocketguide.com/download.html
[20:09] <Brucevdk> rtk126: that shouldn't be too hard, have you already choosen a backup utility?
[20:09] <sporkboy> I just went for jaunty, and now /dev/ttyUSB0 is gone. how do I get to it now?
[20:09] <ActionParsnip> RAMco: sudo passwd -l root
[20:09] <purvesh> ActionParsnip: what should i have 2 write 2 connect that type of person
[20:09] <ActionParsnip> !jaunty | sporkboy
[20:09] <scunizi> sporkboy: check in #ubuntu+1 for Jaunty help
[20:09] <ActionParsnip> purvesh: /join #php
[20:10] <bonhoffer> i can't mount my ntfs external drive . . . just mounted this am
[20:10] <geto> exit
[20:10] <bonhoffer> nautilus sees it
[20:10] <sporkboy> thx
[20:10] <rtk126> brucevdk: That's what I'm looking... I like SpiderOak, but I'm not sure if they can do with my security requirements... IBackup might be a solution, but I want to get some opinions...
[20:10] <scunizi> !polls | rtk126
[20:10] <dmonkey17> Erm, is there another place I can ask this question?
[20:11] <ActionParsnip> !ntfs3g | bonhoffer
[20:11] <purvesh> ActionParsnip: pls say me how i'm new. so i have 2 write in this only or move from ubuntu network
[20:11] <RAMco> ActionParsnip, i get Password ch\anged.
[20:11] <prki0> hi. does someone can tell me the difference between the CD- and the DVD distribution of ubuntu? is there better driver support in in DVD-distribution?
[20:11] <ActionParsnip> RAMco: cool, its been changed to nothing, this disables the account
[20:12] <Aranwe> hi, pls how can i set screensaver to none without the gnome clickie .... when i open the screensaver item from menu my laptop completely freezes
[20:12] <RAMco> ok
[20:12] <bonhoffer> ActionParsnip, yeah -- but it worked earlier -- it is an unclean shutdown
[20:12] <ActionParsnip> prki0: the DVD has more language support as well as the other standard DEs on nthe disk by default
[20:12] <RAMco> ActionParsnip,  i still cant seem to get the cam to work on the software
[20:13] <ActionParsnip> RAMco: read the guide for the compile and install is al i can suggest
[20:13] <prki0> ActionParsnip: thanks mate
[20:13] <ActionParsnip> prki0: for most users, the CD is sufficient
[20:13] <DasEi1> prki0: you have a bigger variety of apps you can check live, but basically you can pull up a whole ubuntu-system with a mini-iso
[20:14] <harrimann> anyone use flightgear
[20:14] <ActionParsnip> prki0: just choose a DE (gnome, kde, xfce) and download that iso
[20:14] <Ture> Has anyone else had this bug:  AC3 passtrough makes alsa switch PCM audio exclusively to analog output... which i'm able to correct by restarting alsa and doing this " cat /dev/urandom |ac3dec -R" magic trick... after Using PCM device 'plug:iec958:{AES0 0x0 AES1 0x82 AES2 0x0 AES3 0x2}'
[20:14] <lagreca> hi folks
[20:15] <Ture> and that message fixes the problem
[20:15] <lagreca> i have some issues with grub
[20:15] <ActionParsnip> !anyone | harrimann
[20:15] <wizared> why did my dvd stop auto mounting and how do i fix it
[20:15] <lagreca> it doesnt load winxp anymore
[20:15] <lagreca> i tried to reinstall it
[20:15] <lagreca> to reconfigure it
[20:15] <lagreca> it only loads ubuntu
[20:16] <lagreca> what can I do?
[20:16] <prki0> no.. my current issue is the lack of drivers in the CD-version. i had the DVD-version some time ago and everything worked fine... i just installed the CD-version (on the same machnine) and even some basic drivers were missing
[20:16] <wizared> lagreca: y do anything
[20:16] <ActionParsnip> lagreca: check the entries in n/boot/grub/menu.lst so that the option for XP is pointing to the right partition
[20:16] <lagreca> but it is
[20:16] <ActionParsnip> lagreca: its not, or it would boot wouldnt it....
[20:16] <lagreca> winxp is installed in the first partition
[20:16] <lagreca> sda1
[20:16] <lagreca> and the menu.lst says (hd0,0)
[20:17] <milen> lagreca?
[20:17] <lagreca> it happened after I reinstalled winxp and then I lost grub
[20:17] <TheFunkbomb> hello new friends
[20:17] <lagreca> yes milen
[20:17] <ActionParsnip> lagreca: can you pastebin the file please
[20:17] <milen> what do you have in your boot file?
[20:18] <lagreca> ok, i'm going to paste the menu.lst
[20:18] <lagreca> can i paste it here?
[20:18] <milen> no
[20:18] <milen> paste it to me
[20:18] <lagreca> ok
[20:18] <ActionParsnip> lagreca: use pastebin
[20:18] <lagreca> i dont know how
[20:18] <ActionParsnip> lagreca: sudo apt-get install pastebinit; pastebinit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[20:19] <KingJamesII> Can anyone here help me get my webcam working? I have an HP DV9000 series laptop
[20:19] <ActionParsnip> lagreca: paste the link in here
[20:19] <ActionParsnip> !webcam | KingJamesII
[20:19] <KingJamesII> ok how do I check to see which cam i have?
[20:20] <ActionParsnip> KingJamesII: lsusb;lspci
[20:21] <carthik> KingJamesII, lspci -vv will turn up the amount of detail you get...
[20:21] <Crazyguy> !jaunty
[20:21] <KingJamesII> got it, thanks guys and gals if necessary
[20:21] <sebsebseb> yeah lots of breakage in 3 days, probably not
[20:22] <Crazyguy> sebsebseb, hopefully not ;)
[20:22] <ActionParsnip> lagreca: do you have the link?
[20:23] <Aranwe> ok, so if anyone would have problem with freezing on screensaver, here is how to disable it from term : gconftool-2 --type bool --set /apps/gnome-screensaver/idle_activation_enabled "false" :) ... now i am wondering why is it freezing anyway :)
[20:23] <canaima> anyone,,, wich is the easy to use IRC GUI (not terminal/console based) that include minimize to traybar ?
[20:23] <Tetracomm> canaima: Xchat is alright.
[20:23] <racarter> for compiz config settings, what is button 1, button 2 etc?
[20:23] <ActionParsnip> canaima: you can use alltry to tray ANY app (except terminal)
[20:23] <Tetracomm> and it can be minimized to the tray.
[20:23] <xangua> canaima: in Gnome/GTK you have Pidgin and in KDE/QT you have Konversation
[20:24] <racarter> the super button is usually the windows button right, but what is button 1?
[20:24] <ActionParsnip> racarter: button 1 = click, button 2 = middle button, button 3 = menu
[20:24] <racarter> so what is button 4, 5, 6, et al?
[20:24] <ActionParsnip> canaima: pidgin has a tray icon too and cando irc
[20:24] <racarter> by the way, my laptop only has two mouse buttons
[20:24] <ActionParsnip> racarter: depends if your mouse has that many buttons
[20:25] <Tetracomm> canaima: You can also try one that integrates into your browser, such as Chatzilla.
[20:25] <ActionParsnip> racarter: try xev or just press the button when you are asked for input
[20:25] <canaima> yes, you are right
[20:26] <canaima> but what we are searching is,,, (we at http://canaima.softwarelibre.gob.ve/)
[20:26] <wizared> Is it true that some dvd players are not compatible with ubuntu
[20:26] <JPZ> Quick question anyone, I'm planning on downloading ubuntu 8.04 server edition to be installed on a dell poweredge 1750. ( 2 intel dual cores , 4gb mem). Any issues I should be expecting ? I read around that ubuntu desktop doesn't support 4gb of mem, but that server vers does. Anything else I should keep in mind ?
[20:26] <canaima> a irc client that can be customized to be just one clic away from the user
[20:26] <syn-fin2> where all manual pages are stored on ubuntu?
[20:26] <n2diy> my box will automount a Ubuntu disk, but not a dvd?
[20:27] <canaima> we want to include it in the distribution so that any user just clic on the icon in the desktop and the user can communicate with the support team, connected to the #canaima irc channel
[20:27] <Tetracomm> canaima: You can set up Xchat to do that.
[20:27] <canaima> (btw canaima is a debian based, linux distribution, for the Venezuelan public administration)
[20:27] <joejax> which kernel version solves this http://securityfocus.nimp.org/bid/3440 exploit on stable?
[20:28] <canaima> Xchat seems to be the best one
[20:28] <canaima> but, is there any other i can try, besides Xchat ?
[20:28] <canaima> u recommend ?
[20:28] <lesbranton> Where is the best place to troubleshoot sound issues?
[20:28] <ActionParsnip> !irc | canaima
[20:28] <ActionParsnip> !sound | lesbranton
[20:29] <purvesh>  /join #php
[20:29] <canaima> ActionParsnip is a bot ?
[20:29] <firefila> I am new to ubuntu.  is it an user interface of Linux ??
[20:29] <cowbellemoo> canaima: nah, just spends alot of time here
[20:30] <firefila> I am new to linux. what makes you guys use linux ? rather than windows ??
[20:30] <tapha84> salut
[20:30] <KingJamesII> ActionParsnip: are you saying there's a webcam channel? If so I can't find it
[20:30] <cowbellemoo> canaima: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_Internet_Relay_Chat_clients
[20:31] <tapha84> someone speak french here
[20:31] <Pici> !fr | tapha84
[20:31] <ActionParsnip> KingJamesII: no, theres a guide for webcams
[20:31] <racarter> how do i make sure i'm getting the latest updates? i mean say I'm using 8.0X and when 9.04 comes out I want to get everything from there
[20:31] <Pici> firefila: #ubuntu-offtopic please, #ubuntu is support only.
[20:31] <wizared> firefila: opensource, less problems
[20:31] <Pici> racarter: When 9.04 comes out there will be an offer to upgrade in update-manager
[20:31] <racarter> i'm sure I don't have to reinstall the os
[20:31] <KingJamesII> !webcam
[20:31] <racarter> oh ok
[20:33] <syn-fin2> where does ubuntu store its manual pages?
[20:33] <calc> syn-fin2: /usr/share/man where most all *nix do
[20:33] <canaima> thanks ppl
[20:33] <syn-fin2> calc: thanks
[20:33] <calc> syn-fin2: for locally installed manpages they go into /usr/local/share/man/
[20:34] <uba> does anybody know if the ext3 to ext4 fs converter will be included in 9.04?
[20:34] <Tetracomm> I tried sudo modprobe floppy and can't access floppy disks, why?
[20:34] <Tetracomm> It looks as if it can access it, but I can't browse it.
[20:35] <Aranwe> Tetracomm>  have you mounted it ?
[20:35] <Galron> Any compiz help available?
[20:35] <Aranwe> !anyone | Galron
[20:36] <purvesh> any help abt solve problem of php
[20:36] <Tetracomm> Aranwe: I tried to, and it wouldn't.
[20:36] <uba> that pretty much is the question....
[20:37] <Aranwe> Tetracomm>  what does mount say ? :)
[20:37] <uba> im pretty straight forward
[20:37] <syke> I don't suppose that gcc-snapshot will be updated to 4.4.0-rc1 before jaunty is released?
[20:38] <YaroMan86> HEllo, I am having problems booting up an Ubuntu Live USB...
[20:38] <Galron> Never mind Compiz works fine. Sorry
[20:38] <Tetracomm> Aranwe: In Nautilus, it says: "Cannot mount file".
[20:39] <YaroMan86> I boot the thing, but it drops me into a BusyBox shell. Any idea what's going wrong and how I can fix it?
[20:39] <doggyslobber> Looking for recommendations: My laptop is Ubuntu.  The office network and machine in question is Windoze.  I need to sync specific folders from the Windoze machine to my Ubuntu machine for offline browsing.  Suggestions?
[20:39] <wizared> can some one help me with dvd/cdrom problems
[20:39] <Tetracomm> and I don't see floppy under /media either
[20:39] <mattgyver> wizared, just ask if someone knows they will reply :D
[20:40] <wizared> mattgyver: ive been asking several questions for over an hour andnothing
[20:40] <MaT-dg> Im trying to compile the countdown plugin for pidgin but I get an error and have no idea what it means (http://pastebin.com/ddd5a95b)
[20:40] <Aranwe> Tetracomm>  does /dev/fd0 exist ?
[20:40] <uba> well doggy you could look into gFTP which is supposedly made for that but i normally used it to access FTP sites but it was slower than Firefox...
[20:41] <YaroMan86> I boot an Ubuntu Live USB, but it drops me into a BusyBox shell. Any idea what's going wrong and how I can fix it?
[20:42] <Tetracomm> Aranwe: No, it doesn't.
[20:42] <Tetracomm> nicholas@nicholas-desktop:~$ mount /dev/fd0
[20:42] <Tetracomm> mount: can't find /dev/fd0 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab
[20:43] <Aranwe> Tetracomm>  ls /dev | grep fd
[20:43] <uba> Will ubuntu 9.04 come with a ext3 > ext4 fs converter?
[20:43] <Aranwe> uba>  what are the advantages of ext4 ?
[20:43] <rumpel_> ext4 ist just an ext3-extension...  i think...
[20:44] <uba> well ext4 is supposedly faster
[20:44] <rumpel_> ext4 ist much faster ....  8)
[20:44] <Tetracomm> Aranwe: http://pastebin.com/d5c0ef15
[20:44] <uba> and from a short wiki i read it has better journaling
[20:44] <rumpel_> ... but also risky
[20:44] <YaroMan86> I boot an Ubuntu Live USB, but it drops me into a BusyBox shell. Any idea what's going wrong and how I can fix it?
[20:44] <uba> oooh...how so?
[20:44] <Chousuke> rumpel_: risky?
[20:44] <Chousuke> rumpel_: it works very well.
[20:44] <rumpel_> unsolved issues
[20:44] <rumpel_> o.O
[20:44] <Chousuke> rumpel_: like what?
[20:45] <uba> its stable right now if im not mistaken
[20:45] <Chousuke> yes
[20:45] <Chousuke> but, anyway
[20:45] <uba> at least for thr .28 kernel
[20:45] <antibody> ALSA lib pcm.c:2162:(snd_pcm_open_conf) Cannot open shared library /usr/lib/alsa-lib/libasound_module_pcm_pulse.so . hi i'm having this problem in 32 bits apps
[20:45] <rumpel_> i heard, it is possible, that you loose much data, if the system crashed BEFORE ist can write back its buffer
[20:45] <antibody> I have ubuntu in 64 bits
[20:45] <uba> ohh
[20:45] <antibody> how can I install that lib? just force the instalation of the 32 bits pkg?
[20:45] <aik-rash> re all
[20:45] <Chousuke> it's possible to convert ext3 into ext4, but you won't be able to take full advantage of all the new stuff if you don't reformat
[20:45] <uba> yea i heard about that one too
[20:45] <Aranwe> Tetracomm>  then i guess your fdd is just working ok, but you dont have it in fstab ... try to mount it manually mkdir /media/floppy; mount /dev/fd0 /media/floppy
[20:45] <YaroMan86> Screw this. I'm installing Arch.
[20:45] <rumpel_> so i stay with ext3
[20:45] <Chousuke> rumpel_: I believe the fixes have been backported to Ubuntu kernels.
[20:46] <uba> i forgot how they planned to fix that
[20:46] <rumpel_> @chousuke its fixed now?
[20:46] <uba> something about it writing data as blocks or somethin
[20:46] <Chousuke> rumpel_: what is fixed?
[20:46] <uba> yea Chousuke is right..i member that now
[20:47] <uba> the issues when the fs is trying write to a block of memory
[20:47] <Vinceman> what does fs tab stand for?
[20:47] <Chousuke> uba: which issues? all data is written as blocks :P
[20:47] <antibody> where are the 32 bits files? /ia32?
[20:47] <uba> filesystem
[20:47] <toggles_w> tbale
[20:47] <Vinceman> and tab is tabulature?
[20:47] <Chousuke> uba: I mean, which filesystem issues?
[20:47] <Vinceman> what would mtab be?
[20:47] <meshuggah> Vinceman, depend
[20:47] <Vinceman> depends?
[20:48] <meshuggah> if u r talking about keyboard or guitar partition
[20:48] <Chousuke> uba: there was some ext4 delayed allocation stuff taht wasn't really a bug, but caused trouble.
[20:48] <uba> uh...wait a minute doesnt ext4 use sorta like a register of memory allocation and then try to write..
[20:48] <Vinceman> meshuggah heh?
[20:48] <Chousuke> uba: it's been fixed.
[20:48] <toggles_w> Vinceman: mount point table
[20:48] <dust> i want my surround speakers to work in other applications aswell thanin vlc !!!!
[20:48] <Chousuke> uba: a journal? yes. ext3 does too :P
[20:48] <cemc> shouldn't NetworkManager ignore eth0 if it's in the /etc/network/interfaces file with 'auto eth0' ?
[20:48] <Chousuke> uba: all data is still written as blocks though.
[20:49] <Chousuke> uba: the journal is data too :)
[20:49] <uba> so anyway Chousuke your saying for sure
[20:49] <holo-the-wise> dust, they only work if the sound is recorded as 5:1
[20:49] <Tetracomm> Aranwe: Yay, it works now. :)
[20:49] <Tetracomm> Thank you.
[20:49] <uba> that it'd have to reformat to get the advantages
[20:49] <rumpel_> @uba no reformat necessary
[20:49] <Chousuke> uba: yeah. At least, I'm quite sure you can't use extents without reformatting.
[20:49] <toggles_w> uba: just some sort of fschk
[20:49] <Chousuke> uba: but you can still mount an ext3 partition as ext4 and get some advantages.
[20:50] <aik-rash> Somebody faced a deenergizing problem ubuntu on laptops?
[20:50] <uba> ...id prefer to just transfer my whole partition into ext4 tho....
[20:50] <wizared> How do i mount my cdrom/dvd
[20:50] <Aquina> hello ;-)
[20:50] <meshuggah> i am trying xfce, and i want to configure it and add launcher in the menu, where is all the icons of the program i use?
[20:51] <Aranwe> Tetracomm>  no problem, btw if you want automount, add to /etc/fstab line like /dev/fd0  /mnt/floppy     auto   user,defaults  0  0
[20:51] <regeya> oy vey
[20:51] <throughput> hello
[20:51] <Chousuke> uba: http://ext4.wiki.kernel.org/index.php/Ext4_Howto#Converting_an_ext3_filesystem_to_ext4
[20:51] <uba> actually i've already wget'd that link...
[20:51] <uba> i was gonna review more in depthly once 9.04 was out
[20:52] <uba> but thanks anyway
[20:52] <Tetracomm> Aranwe: How exactly do I add that to fstab. I don't know how.
[20:52] <TheFunkbomb> Does anyone here us Gnome-Do Docky?
[20:52] <TheFunkbomb> use rather
[20:52] <regeya> !ask | TheFunkbomb

[20:52] <regeya> I do, but I won't guarantee I know, TheFunkbomb
[20:52] <throughput> My friend has a problem with ubuntu about ram recognize
[20:53] <TheFunkbomb> Fine.  Is there anyway to permanently dock a program into Gnome-Do docky?
[20:53] <regeya> TheFunkbomb, I take it your dock is too funky or not too funky
[20:53] <datta> i'm trying to make vlc my default player
[20:53] <TheFunkbomb> For example, I want to dock Pidgin in there permanently
[20:53] <regeya> TheFunkbomb, on mine, I just drug icons from the app menu to the dock
[20:53] <datta> in firefox, epiphiny, opera and everything
[20:53] <xangua> datta in Gnome or KDE ¿
[20:53] <datta> in gnome
[20:53] <TheFunkbomb> regeya, and they're there after restart?
[20:53] <dust> holo-the-wise: my vlc plays mp3 surroundly but i.e rythmbox doesnt play them
[20:54] <jmulloy> How do I set file browser bookmarks for all users?
[20:54] <dust> just in stereo
[20:54] <xangua> datta: you have to install VLC plugin for the browser
[20:54] <throughput> he installed 4 gb but ubuntu see only 3gb
[20:54] <datta> xangua: i have installed it
[20:54] <Aranwe> Tetracomm> try something like :  sudo echo "/dev/fd0  /mnt/floppy     auto   user,defaults  0  0" >> /etc/fstab
[20:54] <guntbert> !enter | throughput
[20:54] <xangua> have you uninstalled totem plugin datta¿
[20:54] <Zopiac> im having problems getting drivers for my geforce 9800, using 64bit HH
[20:54] <datta> yes
[20:54] <MarkJones> Hello everyone, is there an app that can do or is made for doing ABX audio comparing of audio codecs and bitrates? Sort of like WinABX for Windows?
[20:55] <datta> but it plays everything in mplayer because i have it still
[20:55] <datta> should i uninstall that too?
[20:55] <Tetracomm> Ok.
[20:55] <uba> datta have you tried Control Panel > Preffered Applications
[20:55] <Zopiac> envyng isnt detecting my video card, and the hardware drivers program doesnt show anything
[20:55] <throughput> ok... my friend try to install 4gb on a 64 bit version of ubuntu. But ubuntu see only 3 gb...
[20:55] <datta> uba where is control panel?
[20:55] <xangua> datta unistall mplayer plugin
[20:56] <Zopiac> i downloaded the official drivers from the nvidia site, but the installation was giving me errors
[20:56] <xangua> it is called mplayer-mozilla or something like that datta*
[20:56] <mattgyver> datta, system>preferences>preferred applications
[20:56] <yoasif> MarkJones: http://www.rarewares.org/others.php
[20:56] <uba> under the Sytem dropdown on the menu bar
[20:56] <freeland> why can't I ssh to ubuntu as a root ?
[20:56] <freeland> but as a user only
[20:57] <holo-the-wise> freeland you can, you need to change the permissions of the root account.
[20:57] <MarkJones> Thank You
[20:57] <smtx> hi there
[20:57] <genii> freeland: Because root overall is not used/enabled in ubuntu overall
[20:57] <eseven73> !root > freeland
[20:57] <datta> alright i have uninstalled that too
[20:57] <Zopiac> !root > Zopiac
[20:57] <Zopiac> pity :P
[20:57] <gartral> is it possible to watch the output of an active, running terminal from an external client?
[20:58] <wrektjet> if i install ubuntio after a copy of winXP, can i access files/data that has been input into the hdd already on xp? ie music, video, spreadsheets. or do i ned to copy everything and put it on the hdd a second time after ubuntu is installed?
[20:58] <eseven73> !msgthebot > Zopiac
[20:58] <guntbert> throughput: you did make sure (in bios), that the motherboard recognizes the 4GB?
[20:58] <eseven73> hehe
[20:58] <Aranwe> !root | freeland
[20:58] <kwyatt> i have a question regarding screen resolutions if anyone can help
[20:58] <Tetracomm> Thank you.
[20:58] <mattgyver> wrektjet, if your dual booting you can just mount the windows partitions
[20:58] <Aranwe> !anyone | kwyatt
[20:58] <Zopiac> i wish you could use a root account; instead i have to type my password like five times every minute :(
[20:59] <uba> wrekjet....you should be able to mount windows and get your files
[20:59] <mikejet> Are there any X11 replacements?
[20:59] <uba> Zopiac...lol its like windows vista UAC
[20:59] <throughput> guntbert: yes... my friends has installed also windows vista and he see 4GB!
[20:59] <wrektjet> mattgyver - but while  im on the ubuntu os i cant get to those files?
[21:00] <Aranwe> wrektjet>  as long as you DON'T format the partitions with windows files you can access them from linux
[21:00] <mattgyver> wrektjet, yes you can.  You have to mount the specific partition the files are located on
[21:00] <yoasif> uba: UAC is new... su/sudo has been around in *nix forever
[21:00] <kwyatt> Does anyone know why in the ubuntu live cd i can select higher than native resolution but after installing ubuntu onto hdd i can only select up to 1280x800 - is there anyway to use a virtual resolution or force higher resolution?
[21:00] <gartral> wrektjet: yes, you can mount windows partitions from inside Ubuntu
[21:00] <holo-the-wise> best is to use ntfs-3g for that.
[21:00] <yoasif> it's like itself, not like uac
[21:00] <Pici> Zopiac: sudo -i will give you an interactive sudo session
[21:00] <guntbert> Zopiac: you are using sudo - right? then you should need the password only once (it stays valid ~ 5 minutes)
[21:00] <freeland> holo-the-wise, change the permissions of the root account ?
[21:00] <wrektjet> anyone have a help doc on that?
[21:00] <uba> yoasif thanks for the update...but i was saying they can be equally annoying
[21:00] <Zopiac> guntbert: isnt that only for the terminal?
[21:01] <Aranwe> kwyatt>  yes, hand editting xorg.conf
[21:01] <gartral> is it possible to watch the output of an active, running terminal from an external client, say, an ssh terminal?
[21:01] <jmulloy> What is the file browser called in Ubuntu 8.10? (Nautilus?)
[21:01] <mattgyver> yes
[21:01] <Aranwe> jmulloy>  yes
[21:01] <uba> jmulloy yes thats it
[21:01] <guntbert> Zopiac: ah, I misinterpreted, for a GUI you use gksudo, works alike
[21:01] <jmulloy> Thank you!
[21:01] <uba> lowercase tho if you run it in the terminal
[21:01] <yoasif> uba: not really, gksu comes up a lot less than uac does in vista
[21:02] <guntbert> !gksudo | Zopiac
[21:02] <holo-the-wise> In ssh.conf you can allow administrator logins freeland
[21:02] <yoasif> jmulloy: nautilus for GNOME
[21:02] <jmulloy> Is there a way to set bookmarks for all users in Nautilus?
[21:02] <uba> yoasif yes, i understand that im saying at times it can be annoying
[21:03] <datta> thank you the problem is solved thanks a lot
[21:03] <wrektjet> Aranwe, mattgyver , gartral: do know of a doc on that? also would the option "Automatic partitioning
[21:03] <wrektjet>    1. Choose the First Option (It should be something like: "Resize IDE1 master, partition #1 (hda1) and use freed space"). " be the correct route or would i need to manually resize
[21:03] <guntbert> throughput: ok, it was just a quick question. Please talk to the channel again, I'm not good with hardware problems :-)
[21:04] <wrektjet> check that i found it
[21:04] <Aranwe> wrektjet>  if you selected resize hda1 than it should be fine :)
[21:05] <throughput> ok, the bios see 4gb but... ubuntu no... i can post some particular lines of my dmesg
[21:05] <LandonDG> Hey all, I have a quick question. I'm trying to format my partition as HFS+ and it seems to not be highlighted. Is there another program that I can use that will do it? Or something different?
[21:05] <throughput> where is the paste? :-)
[21:05] <guntbert> !pastebin
[21:05] <throughput> thank you!
[21:06] <LandonDG> Has anyone formatted their harddrive has HFS+?
[21:06] <erUSUL> LandonDG: you probably have install hfsprogs
[21:06] <throughput> LandonDG: do you use gparted?
[21:06] <LandonDG> Yeah throughput
[21:06] <erUSUL> !info  hfsprogs | LandonDG
[21:07] <LandonDG> Hmm...let me give it a try real quick
[21:07] <erUSUL> LandonDG: once installled gparted will be able to format partitions as hfs[+]
[21:07] <jmulloy> If I run Nautilus as root will any bookmarks created be visible by all users?
[21:07] <LandonDG> Thanks erUSUL, we'll find out in a minute
[21:08] <uba> How can i fix navigation and seeking issues on Totem with DVDs?

[21:08] <Yaroze2> Anyone know how i can get the microphone to work on my eeepc with ubuntu?
[21:08] <throughput> http://paste.ubuntu.com/154921/
[21:08] <guntbert> jmulloy: don't do that, it won't get you to your target
[21:08] <erUSUL> uba: in my experence totem is a poor dvd player use xine-ui or vlc
[21:08] <LandonDG> Hmm...it's still not working for me
[21:08] <LandonDG> Do you think I need a restart?
[21:08] <jmulloy> Thx guntbert
[21:09] <erUSUL> LandonDG: did you relaunched gparted ?
[21:09] <uba> erUSL... yea i figured that much so
[21:09] <LandonDG> Yeah
[21:09] <uba> i just dont have enuff bandwith to download 70mb right now
[21:09] <LandonDG> HFS and HFS+ are still just not highlighted
[21:09] <LandonDG> Can't really do it on the live cd either
[21:10] <guntbert> jmulloy: just a little warning, btw I'm not aware of the possibility to share bookmark automatically
[21:10] <tinjaw> I'm going to go check the bug database, but just installed 9.04 beta and then upgrade to nvidia v180 drivers and now when I reboot I get an error about kinit and resume.
[21:10] <jmulloy> I see, do you know where Bookmark settings are stored?
[21:10] <tinjaw> Just figured I check here to see if this is happening to anybody else
[21:10] <erUSUL> LandonDG: in my compuer hfs is highlighted hfs+ is not
[21:10] <jmulloy> I check gconf-editor but no luck there.
[21:11] <LandonDG> Hmm...
[21:11] <tinjaw> I have a working 9.04 beta on this same computer earlier today. decided to wipe it with a fresh install.
[21:11] <tinjaw> so I know it *was* working.
[21:11] <LandonDG> Know what it might be?
[21:11] <guntbert> !who | jmulloy
[21:11] <erUSUL> LandonDG: i have hfdutils installed too... maybe that's the package needed
[21:11] <wrektjet> (when is the next version coming out? should i just wait until then or install 8.10 now?)
[21:12] <uba> the next version is 3 days away
[21:12] <tinjaw> 9.04 is scheduled for release on the 23
[21:12] <LandonDG> erUSUL: I just went though synaptic and am installing everything that says HFS
[21:12] <Yaroze2> Anyone know how i can get the microphone to work on my eeepc with ubuntu?
[21:12] <xangua> wrektjet: the 23
[21:12] <LandonDG> I'll let you know if that's doing anything
[21:12] <uba>  8.10 is good i didnt have any problems with it unlike with 8.04
[21:12] <erUSUL> LandonDG: and hfsplus... those three packages are instaled in my system hfsprogs hfsutils and hfsplus
[21:12] <uba> but if you got a newer computer i'd prolly wait a bit
[21:12] <LandonDG> Yeah, I got hfsplus earlier
[21:12] <jmulloy> Sorry guntbert, I am not experienced in IRC ... Do you know where Nautilus bookmark settings are stored?
[21:12] <guntbert> jmulloy: that depends on the browser, but you can always provide a "general bookmarks" file anywhere on the system, its just another html file
[21:12] <LandonDG> Is it possible my harddrive doesn't support HFS+?
[21:12] <rumpel> yeah... 8.10 recogniced my eee-webcam without probs
[21:12] <wrektjet> funny story, i accidentally upgarded to the alpha version like a month ago and crashed my system. so i just installed a copy of xp and went on vacation
[21:13] <erUSUL> LandonDG: the other option you have is using the command line utilities directly (no through gparted)
[21:13] <jonaskoelker> Hi all.  Can anyone recommend a good flv player for ubuntu?  I'm trying to play http://flvdn.gomtv.net/viewer/1104.flv and it doesn't work in mplayer...
[21:13] <LandonDG> Yeah, that'll be my next step if this doesn't work
[21:13] <wrektjet> it was sexy ill tell you that much. at least until i restarted ;)
[21:13] <guntbert> jmulloy: no, I don't know for nautilus, but maybe somebody else....
[21:14] <guntbert> !ot | wrektjet
[21:14] <unko0> hey guys i have a problem... it seems i don't have the ability to use root... like i think myuser acount got messed up... im not allowed to launch synaptic. or unlock things..
[21:14] <unko0>  Python interface unloaded
[21:14] <unko0>  Tcl interface unloade
[21:14] <LandonDG> Cool, now I have hfs
[21:14] <LandonDG> But still no hfs+
[21:14] <wrektjet> that was related btw.
[21:14] <nikin> hy.. any imagemagick pros here? the question is : how can i set the contrast valueofan image?
[21:14] <gene420> unko0 /etc/sudoers has a list of user accounts that can use root
[21:15] <unko0> gene420, ok
[21:15] <LandonDG> Hmm...anyway, erUSUL thanks. I'll let you know later
[21:15] <kravlin1> i need to change my hostname but editing hostnames made sudo and vpnc work imroperly. Help?
[21:16] <unko0> gene420, ok now what
[21:16] <gene420> unko0 unless your using the default user from the install then it will be assosciated to be root under the aliases files
[21:16] <jmulloy> Thank you for your help guntbert ... I will continue googling with some of the keywords from our discussion.
[21:16] <gene420> does it just have root
[21:16] <unko0> yea
[21:16] <unko0> it has root
[21:17] <gene420> does the aliases file contain the user account like root:gene420
[21:17] <guntbert> jmulloy: you're welcome, it was not much :-), good luck
[21:17] <unko0> root	ALL=(ALL) ALL
[21:17] <gene420> that is correct if your aliases file is fine
[21:18] <unko0> hmm
[21:18] <unko0> than why is it doing this?
[21:18] <supersasho> hi there, can anyone help me with my rl8187 wifi, i can't put it in monitoring mode
[21:18] <gene420> what does your aliases file have
[21:18] <unko0> uh
[21:18] <unko0> alot o stuff
[21:19] <gene420> does /etc/aliases have root: unko0
[21:19] <gene420> or whatever your username is
[21:19] <brianixi11> Hello, I can't get ubuntu on my machine.
[21:19] <stapel> can anyone help me setting up a vodafone (uk) usb mobile broadband dongle on ubuntu 8.10?
[21:20] <unko0> gene420,  i don't even have that file..??
[21:20] <brianixi11> on 7, 8, and 9.04, they all stopped around 40% with a I/O error. Help!
[21:20] <mike> odepotmike
[21:21] <brianixi11> on 7, 8, and 9.04, they all stopped around 40% with a I/O error. Help!
[21:21] <gene420> you could create a file called aliases in the /etc directory then add root:     <username>  there is a tab after the colon
[21:21] <aspoor> what is your password?
[21:21] <guntbert> !repeat | brianixi11
[21:21] <gene420> since without root access you wont be able to edit the sudoers file
[21:22] <aspoor> !patiencce
[21:22] <aspoor> !patience
[21:22] <brianixi11> I will repeat. on 7, 8, and 9.04, they all stopped around 40% with a I/O error. Help!
[21:22] <unko0> gene420, so what should i do?
[21:22] <ienorand> jonaskoelker: That vid works fine for me just in default totem (with ugly/bad plugins...I think)
[21:23] <xangua> brianixi11: stop repeating and simply ask your question
[21:23] <gene420> create a file called aliases in the /etc directory then add root:     <username>  there is a tab after the colon
[21:23] <guntbert> brianixi11: *don't* repeat quickly please
[21:23] <gene420> brianixi11 sounds like a drive or cd error try the alternate cd version
[21:23] <uba> is your disk properly burn
[21:23] <jonaskoelker> ienorand: care to look at$ dpkg -l 'gstreamer0.10-plugins*'?
[21:23] <gene420> if your sure the disk drive is good
[21:23] <uba> check the image
[21:23] <lesbranton> I get the initial start up sound but about half way through the sound it cuts out and cannot sound for any program... done all the troubleshooting I can find including the Ubuntu community and Launchpad
[21:24] <guntbert> !who | uba
[21:24] <uba> oh pardon me
[21:24] <brianixi11> I need help with installation. How do install. On version 7 it stopped at 39%, 8 at 49% and 9.04 at 31%. HElp!
[21:24] <unko0> gene420, LIKE THIS?  root:	michael
[21:24] <uba> ubottu oh pardon me
[21:24] <gene420> yepper
[21:24] <guntbert> uba: np, we just like to make it easier :-)
[21:24] <uba> ubottu you must be a bot...pardon that also
[21:24] <unko0> ok
[21:25] <JPZ> does ubuntu 8.10 desktop edition currently utilize dual cores properly without the need of extra packages?
[21:25] <unko0> gene420, i saved it.. now restart X right?
[21:25] <unko0> or just restart the whole computer
[21:25] <gene420> no one second...gotta remember the command
[21:25] <unko0> ok
[21:25] <uba> JPZ im using a HP with Athlon X2 its seems to utilize it right
[21:25] <unko0> gene420, by the way im using jaunty..
[21:25]  * Gnea locates a 7.10 system and proceeds to upgrade it to 8.04
[21:25] <brianixi11> ubottu: I need help with installation. How do install. On version 7 it stopped at 39%, 8 at 49% and 9.04 at 31%. HElp!
[21:26] <uba> JPZ it also lists each core in the process window and i can be converting videos into ogg format at 100% on one core and browsing the web on the other
[21:26] <brianixi11> ubottu: I need help with installation. How do install. On version 7 it stopped at 39%, 8 at 49% and 9.04 at 31%. HElp!
[21:26] <brianixi11> I need help with installation. How do install. On version 7 it stopped at 39%, 8 at 49% and 9.04 at 31%. HElp!
[21:26] <unko0> OMG your anoying
[21:26] <Gnea> !install | brianixi11 (Please read, and stop repeating.)
[21:27] <gene420> i think it should just work after you log out and log back in...having a brain fart
[21:27] <Kangarooo> how can i make to play wma file on xubuntu or ubuntu? i installed restricted and also w32codec vlc goes and when cahnge audio cahnnel to audio1 it says   p, li { white-space: pre-wrap; }  No suitable decoder module: VLC does not support the audio or video format "wmas". Unfortunately there is no way for you to fix this.  and TOTEM says An error occurred The playback of this movie requires a Windows Media Speech decoder plugin which is not installed....
[21:28] <uba> hey ppl that bad for the community image
[21:28] <unko0> gene420, ok ill be right back
[21:28] <jonaskoelker> Hi all.  Which package has a flash audio demuxer for totem/gstreamer?
[21:28] <gordonjcp> hello
[21:28] <gordonjcp> is there a way I can remove all the "strange" fonts that come with Ubuntu that I'm unlikely to need and that clutter up font selection dialogues?
[21:29] <brianixi11> Gnea, ubottu: Thank you. Hopefully it will work on a usb drive.
[21:29] <brianixi11> Gnea: Thank you.
[21:29] <lorenzosu> Hi all what exactly means the "put computer to sleep when inactive" in the Power Management utility in gnome?
[21:29] <thiebaude> gordonjcp: yea if you want msttcorefonts
[21:29] <gordonjcp> thiebaude: not particularly
[21:29] <Blizz> anyone running 9.04 unr on a eee 904ha and having mic issues with skype?
[21:29] <uba> gordonjcp yea its should be in you /usr/share/fonts
[21:29] <thiebaude> ok
[21:30] <uba> if im not mistaken
[21:30] <gordonjcp> thiebaude: I mean I don't really need 270,000 different Hindi fonts
[21:30] <Gnea> brianixi11: dude, ubottu is a bot, not a human, why do you keep trying to talk to it? :)
[21:30] <gordonjcp> uba: hm, just delete them then?
[21:30] <Kangarooo> gordonjcp: first time i instaled windo fonts but as more ppl are using ubuntu so im starting to get used to ubuntu font plus making websites with fonts so any OS can see same way..
[21:30] <gordonjcp> uba: there's no "nice" Ubuntu way?
[21:30] <brianixi11> Gnea: I just found that out. now I feel stupid.
[21:30] <uba> yea and replace em with your windows font if you want or popular ones from dafont.com
[21:30] <gordonjcp> Kangarooo: I don't care about Windows fonts, I don't have Windows and I don't use it ;-)
[21:31] <Kangarooo> so u have normal ubuntu fonts ... right?
[21:31] <uba> gordonjcp if you mean thru the gui...no...not that im aware of
[21:31] <gordonjcp> Kangarooo: yes
[21:31] <Gnea> brianixi11: eh, just don't repeat the mistakes again and you'll be smarter :)
[21:31] <ienorand> jonaskoelker: sorry, I tested in jaunty so it might not be representative, but my bad & ugly are at <IP_ADDRESS>-1***1
[21:31] <Kangarooo> so eeverything is fine./..?
[21:31] <gordonjcp> uba: okay, just wanted to be sure that there wasn't a "proper" way that was going to go crazy if I went in with steel toecaps ;-)
[21:31] <brianixi11> Gnea: So I just try a usb drive?
[21:32] <Gnea> brianixi11: well, you should really read the first and second URLs
[21:32] <unko0> gene420, ...nothing
[21:32] <lorenzosu> Hi all what exactly means the "put computer to sleep when inactive" in the Power Management utility in gnome?
[21:32] <gordonjcp> Kangarooo: no, I don't want to have lots of non-Latin fonts - there are about a dozen Hindi, Arabic, Hebrew and other fonts that I'll never use
[21:33] <brianixi11> Gnea: I did, and I was just confirming. Are you a bot, or a ubuntu developer?
[21:33] <unko0> lorenzosu, it means when the computer is idel.. meaing not in use it will go to slee
[21:33] <Kangarooo> gordonjcp: they came with clean installation?
[21:33] <unko0> gene420, ??
[21:33] <gordonjcp> Kangarooo: yup
[21:33] <uba> lorenzosu that means you computer when your not using it will go into a power-saving mode the screen mainly will og off and the hard disk will stop spining till you return
[21:33] <gene420> unko0 thats wierd the only thing to suggest is a crazy fix use the live cd boot up mount the drive and add your username to the file
[21:33] <lessshaste> I have wifi working but only through a hand compiled module kludge.. now there has been a kernel update how can I revert to the standard nm-applet wifi setup that would happen in a fresh install?
[21:33] <Kangarooo> ouh then i also want to rmove them...
[21:33] <Gnea> brianixi11: neither.
[21:33] <lorenzosu> unko0:  Will that do hibernate or suspend or is it something different?
[21:33] <unko0> lorenzosu, sleep... i don't know google it?
[21:34] <unko0> gene420, grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
[21:34] <Whipper_> hibernate & suspend is 2 very different things..
[21:34] <pilif12p> hi
[21:34] <thiebaude> !hibernate
[21:34] <pilif12p> I have one question
[21:34] <brianixi11> Gnea: Then what are you? You seem pretty intelligent about the ubuntu operating systems.
[21:34] <uba> lorenzosu sleep is a power-saving mode to cut down on electricity usage
[21:34] <unko0> gene420, do you know how to run groups and users from terminal?
[21:34] <lorenzosu> !sleep
[21:34] <unko0> !google sleep
[21:34] <gene420> yea i know or make a new user account and edit the aliases file and do a full reboot
[21:34] <uba> lol
[21:34] <unko0> ha
[21:34] <gordonjcp> brianixi11: some people in here have been using Ubuntu since it first came out
[21:34] <pilif12p> !Moonlight
[21:34] <Gnea> brianixi11: surely you don't seriously believe that, out of the 1490 people in this channel, that most of them are bots?
[21:34] <Kangarooo> in /usr/share/fonts i have 1601 items, totalling 121.8 MB
[21:34] <lorenzosu> uba: Thanks exactly what I wanted to know.
[21:35] <Gnea> brianixi11: I am quite human :p
[21:35] <pilif12p> What version of moonlight do i download?
[21:35] <unko0> gene420, well might as well do ANOTHER install
[21:35] <thiebaude> Gnea: :)
[21:35] <uba> lorenzosu no prob
[21:35] <lesbranton> I get the initial start up sound but about half way through the sound it cuts out and cannot sound for any program... any ideas?
[21:35] <pilif12p> Anyone know?
[21:35] <gene420> i hate to say it but wait two days until 9.04 comes out
[21:35] <uba> lorensozu just kno that you cant use it while its in sleep mode
[21:35] <pilif12p> I have a question
[21:35] <Gnea> !jaunty
[21:35] <lorenzosu> uba any known side effects?
[21:35] <gordonjcp> 21:35 < Gnea> brianixi11: I am quite human :p
[21:36] <gordonjcp> Gnea: that's *exactly* what I'd program a bot to say...
[21:36] <unko0> gene420, im using 9.04
[21:36] <Gnea> gordonjcp: hahaha
[21:36] <rumpel> me too
[21:36] <erUSUL> !jaunty | unko0
[21:36] <pilif12p> What version of Moonlight do i download??
[21:36] <gene420> haha let me read the bugs on it
[21:36] <uba> Kangaroo that sounds about right
[21:36] <unko0> erUSUL, ?
[21:36] <brianixi11> gordonjcp: I am new. I am just trying to be adventurous. I had to delete everything on my windows partition because of a virus. now I am trying ti install linux ubuntu. It just won't work and I need help!!!!!!!
[21:36] <erUSUL> unko0: jaunty suppport is not here
[21:36] <unko0> gene420, ok
[21:36] <unko0> erUSUL, no ship i know that
[21:37] <mib_pim11oyc> gordonjcp: what is the problem?
[21:37] <rumpel> @ brianchidester
[21:37] <rumpel> ups
[21:37] <rumpel> wrong
[21:37] <lesbranton> !sound
[21:37] <unko0> erUSUL, this happen to me in 8.10 too
[21:37] <rumpel> @ brianixi11 whats the prob?
[21:37] <pilif12p> !silverlight
[21:37] <brianixi11> gordonjcp: I don't think that most are bots.
[21:37] <uba> brianix11 explain your problem with more detail
[21:38] <rumpel> lol... merkel in southpark ^^
[21:38] <erUSUL> unko0: what error you get when you use sudo in command line ?
[21:38] <rumpel> ups
[21:38] <rumpel> wrong window
[21:38] <Gnea> brianixi11: your best bet is to explain, in detail, what the problem is... just saying that the installation dies at a certain percentange doesn't really say much of anything... there are ways to debug and diagnose to figure out exactly what's going wrong so that it can be fixed.  But, you're going to need to start with some sort of detail.
[21:38] <pilif12p> Can i ask a question?
[21:38] <JPZ> uba, thanks for replies. i'm currently running on a dual core as well and I see 145% CPU usage so I'm guessing that both most be working. Just wanted to make sure.
[21:38] <Gnea> !ask | pilif12p
[21:38] <unko0> erUSUL, nothing.. i mean it's normal i can't launch any admin program like synaptic, users and groups, etc. also i can't unlock anything
[21:39] <brianixi11> I come to a I/O error every time I try to install... I can't get past 49%. PLease explain what I should do.
[21:39] <pilif12p> How do i use Moonlight(linux silverlight) and, which version
[21:39] <erUSUL> unko0: please try on a terminal do "sudo -i" or "sudo aptitude update"
[21:39] <rumpel> @brian try another hd/pc...
[21:39] <Gnea> brianixi11: can you get anymore details on this I/O error and write them down somewhere?
[21:40] <thiagoss> hello, i've got a dell inspiron 1545 with intel graphics card, but the video is really slow. Anyone know where can I get the drivers?
[21:40] <erUSUL> pilif12p: you can install it like any other ff extension... go to its site an click on the xpi file
[21:40] <unko0> erUSUL, output = sudo: must be setuid root
[21:40] <Spirits-Sight> any ideas to get video that uses flow player to play right?
[21:40] <pilif12p> But which version?
[21:40] <erUSUL> unko0: well somehow your sudo executable is not suid ???
[21:40] <lorenzosu> On my old laptop I had a wonderful button which would cut CPU but also make the fan practically silent. Is it possible to do something similar via software? I installed th CPU Frequency Scaling Monitor but fan is still quite high
[21:40] <mackk431> !test
[21:40] <Gnea> !laptop | thiagoss (check these sites out and see if your 1545 is listed there - more than likely, it is, and see how others have solved the graphics problem)
[21:41] <brianchidester> brianixi11: and I/O during installation generally means 1 of 2 things, either the disk has a loose cable or it is busted
[21:41] <erUSUL> unko0: what does «  ls -l $(which sudo) »  says ?
[21:42] <Charruaenojao> Hi! Is there a way to indicate bash to return the output of a program both in the terminal and, at the same time in an output file?
[21:42] <brianchidester> brianixi11: try reseating the cables and try running some disk utilities off of one of the many rescue cds on the internets to try to fix it if it is fixable
[21:42] <Shortguy109> is there an msn where you can use voice calls for linux?
[21:42] <R0b0t1> Is it possible to alt+tab out of fulscreen apps?
[21:42] <dstrbdfrk1> can someone help me with some gpz errors
[21:42] <brianixi11> The I/O error is saying that the cd could be defective. The Thing also says that the the drive could be scrwed or the hd could be messed up. my dad just called and said to check the disk for defects in the startup menu. PLease tell me if this could work.
[21:42] <mackk431> direct it via ">" operator
[21:42] <brianchidester> Charruaenojao: cat the output file every so often
[21:42] <Gnea> R0b0t1: hve you tried it?
[21:42] <R0b0t1> I would find this useful while playing a game like warsow and IRC'ing.
[21:42] <Shortguy109> is there an msn where you can use voice calls for linux?
[21:42] <brianchidester> R0b0t1: yes
[21:42] <R0b0t1> Gnea: Yes.
[21:42] <erUSUL> unko0: ?
[21:43] <Gnea> R0b0t1: did it work?
[21:43] <hporse> heys guys. do you know wether cpufreq-utils is included on the ubuntu live cd? or if not do you know a live cd that includes them? if someone knows a complete list of all the software included on the ubuntu live cd i'd also lik to see that one.
[21:43] <R0b0t1> brianchidester: Gnea: Care to explain? It did not work.
[21:43] <Charruaenojao> Something in the lines of "program input > output" but with the output also displaying in the terminal in real time
[21:43] <erUSUL> Charruaenojao: use tee
[21:43] <Charruaenojao> brianchidester: what is "cat"
[21:43] <Gnea> R0b0t1: depends on the game... usually there's some sort of in-game configuration to take it out of fullscreen mode
[21:43] <Shortguy109> is there an msn where you can use voice calls for linux?
[21:43] <brianchidester> R0b0t1: sorry missed the part where it was a game, those don't generally like that/let you
[21:44] <erUSUL> Charruaenojao: program input | tee > output
[21:44] <Spirits-Sight> Hello, I am trying to play a video that seems to use Flow Player on a website, it gives a error, is there something I can install to get it to play the video?
[21:44] <Gnea> brianchidester: it may or may not work.  what speed did you burn the cd at?
[21:44] <R0b0t1> Gnea: Ah, I've tried that. :\ Changing the key binds didn't work.
[21:44] <brianchidester> R0b0t1: try windows+tab
[21:44] <erUSUL> Shortguy109: Ekiga is a SIP app
[21:44] <guntbert> !repeat | Shortguy109
[21:44] <Charruaenojao> erUSUL: tee? I forgot to tell you, I'm a newbie
[21:44] <gene420> unko0 there are bugs if you create a user called admin did you do that by chance
[21:44] <erUSUL> Charruaenojao: i just told you how to use it
[21:44] <lesbranton> In Xchat anyone know how to eliminate all the people leaving and joining from showing up in the chat window?
[21:44] <brianixi11> Gnea: The I/O error is saying that the cd could be defective. The Thing also says that the the drive could be scrwed or the hd could be messed up. my dad just called and said to check the disk for defects in the startup menu. PLease tell me if this could work.
[21:44] <brianchidester> Charruaenojao: cat lets you view a text file in the terminal
[21:44] <erUSUL> Charruaenojao: 22:44 < erUSUL> Charruaenojao: program input | tee > output
[21:44] <Shortguy109> i've tried downloading Ekiga but it never shown after i downloaded it
[21:44] <dstrbdfrk1> i added a repository so i can upgrade amarok and now when i apt-get update it gives me three gpg errors
[21:44] <R0b0t1> I'll try really quick, be back.
[21:45] <erUSUL> Shortguy109: Aplications>Internet
[21:45] <Shortguy109> yeah i went to that :o
[21:45] <Gnea> brianchidester: I read what you typed already. please don't repeat again.
[21:45] <R0b0t1> Nope, oh well.
[21:45] <Gnea> er
[21:45] <R0b0t1> Maybe someone might suggest it.
[21:45] <klyick> I'm trying to setup a z2300 Lexmark printer on Ubuntu 8.10, but I can't get it to work. Anybody have this printer?
[21:45] <Gnea> brianixi11: I read what you typed already, please don't repeat again.
[21:45] <brianchidester> Gnea: ?
[21:45] <Gnea> brianchidester: sorry
[21:45] <brianchidester> np
[21:45] <Gnea> brianchidester: you're both in the same tab group
[21:45] <Shortguy109> it says it's installed but it won't show in the internet thing
[21:46] <unko00> erUSUL, sorry i lost connection
[21:46] <brianixi11> Gnea: Have you come up with a fix or an answer?
[21:46] <erUSUL> unko0: what does «  ls -l $(which sudo) »  says ?
[21:46] <Charruaenojao> erUSUL: Thank you! I think I'm going to try it.
[21:46] <unko00> erUSUL, ???
[21:46] <Gnea> brianixi11: yeah I already did, did you miss it?
[21:46] <gene420> unko00 have you asked the guys in ubuntu+1 the jaunty channel
[21:46] <lesbranton> In Xchat anyone know how to eliminate all the people leaving and joining from showing up in the chat window?
[21:46] <erUSUL> unko00: show me the output of that command is just a line
[21:46] <throughput> moonlight -> http://www.go-mono.com/moonlight/
[21:46] <brianixi11> Gnea: Yes, I must have. Please repost it.
[21:46] <hporse> ok no one seems to know. other question: does anyone know a live cd that includes cpufreq-utils?
[21:46] <erUSUL> lesbranton: rightclick on the channel button
[21:47] <Gnea> brianchidester: it may or may not work.  what speed did you burn the cd at?
[21:47] <throughput> moonlight it's fantastic :)
[21:47] <unko00> erUSUL, -rwxr-xr-x 1 michael root<PHONE_NUMBER>-02-16 22:24 /usr/bin/sudo
[21:47] <histo> hporse: you can install applications on the ubuntu live cd with apt or synaptic
[21:47] <erUSUL> hporse: if it does not you can install it if you have inet connection (or from a usb stick)
[21:47] <histo> !info cpufreq-utils
[21:47] <erUSUL> unko00: well that's weird... sudo must have setuid but yours does not
[21:47] <pilif12p> What version of moonlight do i download??
[21:48] <Shortguy109> does anyone know any other voice chat things? cuz ekiga doesn't work :(
[21:48] <unko00> erUSUL, hmm
[21:48] <erUSUL> unko00: do you remember doing something that may have touched the sudo binary ??
[21:48] <Charruaenojao> brianchidester: I tryed it, but is tiring jumping in and out of the editor so it can refresh. Thank you anyway
[21:48] <hporse> erUSUL,histo: ah nice. but is the complete synaptics tree included on the live cd or just a limited set of programs in order to save space?
[21:48] <histo> !info cpufrequtils | hporse
[21:48] <brianixi11> Gnea: I must leave for something. PLease come back on in about 2 hours. Thanks for the help. Brianixi11.
[21:48] <pilif12p> !moonlight download
[21:48] <histo> hporse: it will pull a complete tree from over the interweb silly.
[21:48] <unko00> erUSUL, not really... all i did recenlty was change some permissions in the /usr folder. add some software. and make a root password
[21:49] <erUSUL> hporse: synaptics tree ?? list of packages ? it has all the packages that a normal ubuntu would have
[21:49] <Gnea> ...
[21:49] <baz> anyone using flex 4?
[21:49] <hporse> erUSUL: yeah i mean list of packages
[21:49] <pilif12p> Does anyone know what version of moonlight i downlolad??????
[21:49] <gene420> unko00 try and do a su root
[21:49] <histo> hporse: while it isn't installed by default if the live system has internet access you can install any package.
[21:49] <erUSUL> unko00: change some permissions in the /usr folder ????? that's sounds like could have been it
[21:49] <unko00> erUSUL, i mean this command: chown michael -R /etc
[21:49] <erUSUL> unko00: you aplied chmod -R lightly on the usr folder :|
[21:50] <histo> pilif12p: did you see if moonlight is availible in th repos?
[21:50] <unko00> erUSUL, i mean /usr
[21:50] <poseidon> I'm looking to get a high-end computer (good graphics card, lost of ram, good cpu, etc)  Any suggestions
[21:50] <pilif12p> Histo, what do you mean, can you PM me?
[21:50] <histo> !moonlight-plugin-mozilla | pilif12p
[21:50] <histo> !info moonlight-plugin-mozilla | pilif12p
[21:51] <histo> pilif12p: its availible in jaunty
[21:51] <pilif12p> Really
[21:51] <poseidon> *laptop
[21:51] <pilif12p> So, i have to upgrade?
[21:51] <histo> no you can probably still install in intrepid
[21:51] <pilif12p> How?
[21:51] <erUSUL> unko00: well anyway the harm is done... you will have to boot into recovery mode and do  « chmod u+s /usr/bin/sudo »
[21:51] <poseidon> I don't want to get one thats going to have a bunch of conflictions with linux (ie ati cards)
[21:51] <unko00> erUSUL, ands thats it?
[21:51] <histo> pilif12p: let me check something real quick hold up
[21:51] <pilif12p> Okay
[21:52] <erUSUL> unko00: well that's for a start i do not know what other binaries or stuff has now wrong permissions
[21:52] <unko00> erUSUL, hmm ok ill try that than get back at you
[21:53] <erUSUL> !who | lesbranton
[21:53] <erUSUL> unko00: ok
[21:53] <histo> pilif12p: are you planning on upgrading on thursday?
[21:53] <pilif12p> No
[21:53] <pilif12p> im on a netbook
[21:53] <pilif12p> with only 4 GB
[21:53] <stealth-> this crontab line: "0 12 */4 * * /bin/uplinkbackup.sh " would run uplinkbackup.sh every 4 days at noon on the hour, right?
[21:53] <lorenzosu> On my old laptop I had a wonderful button which would cut CPU but also make the fan practically silent. Is it possible to do something similar via software? I installed th CPU Frequency Scaling Monitor but fan is still quite high
[21:53] <pilif12p> no CD drive
[21:53] <histo> pilif12p: http://www.go-mono.com/moonlight/
[21:54] <pilif12p> Thanks
[21:54] <histo> pilif12p: what site do you need silverlight for though?
[21:55] <sierinjs_lv> @@ does someone knows where is opera's temp folder? @@
[21:55] <pilif12p> A website
[21:55] <pilif12p> reportstorms.com
[21:55] <lesbranton> !tab
[21:59] <zKai> ?
[21:59] <unko00> erUSUL, still nothing..
[22:00] <Preplexed> Good evening all!
[22:00] <zKai> Pretty quiet here today
[22:00] <unko00> erUSUL, ?
[22:01] <Preplexed> ny one here every used wire shark?
[22:01] <erUSUL> unko00: what error do you get now ?
[22:01] <zKai> I have
[22:01] <unko00> erUSUL, nothing happend.. i still can't run admin programs
[22:01] <lesbranton> I get the initial start up sound but about half way through the sound it cuts out and cannot hear sound for any program... any ideas?  I have checked all the troubleshooting in Ubuntu forumns
[22:01] <axell> hy people
[22:01] <erUSUL> unko00: ok; i understand that... what you get now when you do  « sudo -i » on a treminal
[22:01] <Preplexed> zai u used wire shark how you like it
[22:02] <unko00> erUSUL, output = sudo: must be setuid root
[22:02] <erUSUL> unko00: are you sure you did what i said ?  what does « ls -l $(which sudo) » outputs ?
[22:03] <unko00> erUSUL, -rwsr-xr-x 1 michael root<PHONE_NUMBER>-02-16 22:24 /usr/bin/sudo
[22:03] <lesbranton> Can anyone help troubleshoot a sound issue?
[22:04] <hubbard> I have Ubuntu 8.04, when I insert a DVD-rw I get this error: http://pastebin.com/m30eb693f. My /etc/fstab is here: http://pastebin.com/m13efad1e
[22:04] <pepperjack> lesbranton: whats the issue maybe someone will pipe up with a suggestion
[22:04] <erUSUL> unko00: ooops you should have done « chown root:root /usr/bin/sudo » too; sorry for not noticing earlier...
[22:04] <lesbranton> I get the initial start up sound but about half way through the sound it cuts out and cannot hear sound for any program.
[22:04] <fmagno> Hi ! Can anyone help me connecting to a VPN with Ubuntu 8.10 ?
[22:04] <unko00> erUSUL, it's ok at least im getting help :] and ok be right back
[22:05] <hubbard> Could it be that my fstab is not correct?
[22:05] <histo> lesbranton: which version of ubuntu are you running?
[22:05] <lesbranton> histo: 8.10
[22:05] <pepperjack> lesbranton: if you run alsamixer in a terminal are all the volume levels up? anything muted?
[22:05] <histo> !sound > lesbranton
[22:05] <lesbranton> All volumes are maxed nothing muted.
[22:06] <histo> hubbard: fstab looks okay to me. Does that happen with every dvd?
[22:06] <greencookie> i just installed checkstyle via apt-get now how can i run it on a .java file?
[22:06] <lesbranton> Multimedia audio controller: ATI Technologies Inc IXP150 AC'97 Audio Controller
[22:06] <pepperjack> fmagno: i often use vpnc its pretty straigt forward but is command line only.  i think there are several front ends. kvpnc etc
[22:07] <lesbranton> pepperjack: alsamixer says it all up.
[22:07] <hubbard> histo: it does not happen when I insert, for example, a movie into the DVD player. It only happens with a blank DVD-rw.
[22:08] <pepperjack> lesbranton: about the only other thing i know to do is restart alsa-utils sudo /etc/init.d/alsa-utils restart    other than that check the sound section in gnome panel. might be set to wrong device.  that would make sense since it works until gnome-session and stuff loads
[22:08] <Guest1984> Hi, anyone know a good screencast software, if possible x<
[22:08] <Guest1984> not xvid cap or istanbul since both dont work
[22:08] <pepperjack> Guest1984: prnt screen really fast?
[22:08] <scunizi> Guest1984: myscreenrecorder.. I think is the name
[22:08] <lesbranton> Pepperjack: will check out the gnome
[22:08] <hendrikb> join #ubuntu+1
[22:08] <Guest1984> peppejack: nice try come again :P
[22:08] <Guest1984> it's in the synaptic?
[22:09] <Guest1984> scunizi: it's in the synaptic pkg?
[22:09] <pepperjack> Guest1984: ive used imagemagick in the past but i cant remember the process.  the end result was not all that desirable
[22:09] <unko00> erUSUL, still nothing..
[22:09] <puner> can someone help me with this wubi installation
[22:09] <scunizi> Guest1984: looking now
[22:09] <lightpriest> puner, yes?
[22:09] <puner> I installed it inside windows
[22:09] <puner> everything works
[22:09] <lesbranton> Pepperjack: sudo /etc/init.d/alsa-utils restart    Restarted OKAY.
[22:09] <Guest1984> scunizi: also checking
[22:09] <erUSUL> unko00: ok; again what does  « sudo -i » outputs on a terminal
[22:09] <puner> except I cant get to the windows xp partition, when using ubuntu
[22:10] <Guest1984> 0 row return :(
[22:10] <yoasif> any chance i could get some help on reenabling trackpad click? works fine on a separate install of jaunty beta, but not on my main install... /msg me if you can help
[22:10] <unko00> erUSUL, sudo: must be setuid root
[22:10] <lightpriest> puner, you installed ubuntu "inside" windows?
[22:10] <lesbranton> Pepperjack: how do you check gnome panel?
[22:10] <Guest1984> XvidCap seem to be a nice tool but it freeze my computer :(
[22:10] <lightpriest> or from windows?
[22:10] <puner> yes using Wubi
[22:11] <fmagno> pepperjack, I have just installed  vpnc. It's asking for some things, can you give me a hand? what is the gateway address ?
[22:11] <pepperjack> lesbranton: system --> pref --> sound i think
[22:11] <pepperjack> fmagno: i can try
[22:11] <lightpriest> ohh I guess I'm clueless there, sorry didn't notice you said wubi...
[22:11] <puner> because when I put the live CD in the computer, I get the option to install ubuntu inside windows using wubi
[22:11] <puner> since I didn't want to mess with partitioning
[22:11] <Neros> Ok guys I have some problems..... I have linux set up and its going wonderfully. but I need vista on a small partition at the end of the drive... the problem is i have 1 small primary with mounted as /boot and then the rest of the drive is an extended drive containing my ubuntu install my /home and my swap.... the problme is vista bitches about being installed to a logical drive. Is it possible ot resize that extended partition down? it already ha
[22:11] <Guest1984> Escomtools MyScreenRecorder 2.55 == Windows stuff :(
[22:11] <lightpriest> I'm not really sure
[22:11] <lightpriest> have you tried the places menu?
[22:11] <unko00> EruditeHermit, did u get that?
[22:11] <puner> thats where I cant see it
[22:12] <scunizi> Guest1984: sorry I can't find it.. it's sort of the defacto for recording the screen.. I've read about it in the ubuntu monthly publication.
[22:12] <unko00> erUSUL, did you get that?
[22:12] <lightpriest> what about 'ls -l /dev/sd*'?
[22:12] <Neros> Puner, You will not be able to access the windows drive inside a wubi install
[22:12] <EruditeHermit> unko00: sorry what?
[22:12] <lightpriest> what do you see there?
[22:12] <erUSUL> unko00: yes... again "ls -l /usr/bin/sudo" ?
[22:12] <b14ck> Guest1984, if you want to record your desktop install: recordmydesktop
[22:12] <Guest1984> scunizi: ok, well thanks for your help. I'll reboot in windows :(
[22:12] <unko00> EruditeHermit, sorry wrong nick
[22:12] <EruditeHermit> ah ok
[22:12] <tales2010> hello. I closed network manager icon from the top panel. Is there any way to bring the icon back there?
[22:12] <EruditeHermit> =)
[22:12] <scunizi> Guest1984: give me another sec..
[22:12] <lesbranton> Thank you Pepperjack!!  Finally after hours of trying it works.... don't know if I did anything different that I tried before.
[22:12] <b14ck> Guest1984, its a gtk program, very lightweight, allows you to record your desktop & sound to a video file
[22:12] <Guest1984> recordmydesktop  cool found it thx
[22:13] <puner> Is there a reason why? I really need to access Program Files :P
[22:13] <unko00> erUSUL, -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root<PHONE_NUMBER>-02-16 22:24 /usr/bin/sudo
[22:13] <Guest1984> b14ck : exacly what i need thx a lot ill try it
[22:13] <tales2010> hello. I closed network manager icon from the top panel. Is there any way to bring the icon back there?
[22:13] <pepperjack> lesbranton: heh congrats
[22:13] <b14ck> no problem
[22:13] <lightpriest> puner, private
[22:13] <lesbranton> pepperjack: now I will see if it works upon restart!
[22:13] <Guest1984> 403 Forbidden arggg life is a combat
[22:14] <Neros> puner, yes, Wubi dosent actually install linux to a partition. It installs it to a file(think a really big zip file) that resides ON your windows partition
[22:14] <puner> I see.
[22:14] <scunizi> Guest1984: gtk-recordmydesktop
[22:14] <erUSUL> unko00: dohh when we change the owner the setuid got los... you will have to do « chmod u+s /usr/bin/sudo » again :(
[22:14] <erUSUL> lost*
[22:14] <Guest1984> http://ufs.lobotomie.org/dists/hardy/main/binary-i386/graphics/recordmydesktop_<IP_ADDRESS>-0hardy1~UFS_i386.deb  403 Forbidden
[22:15] <Neros> And if wubi could access that partition where its own file resides you would get terrible problems with write speed and other things that would generally break wubi
[22:15] <erUSUL> unko00: sorry for the constant reboots...
[22:15] <badfish69> i want to do a samba share with a notebook running xp
[22:15] <badfish69> should i just give up?
[22:15] <stalker314314> hi all,  in xdmcp remote login gnome session (ubuntu-ubuntu), arrow keys, del and pgp/pgdown doesn't work, any idea?
[22:15] <tales2010> is there any way to boot vista using grub?
[22:15] <Neros> badfish69 what have you tried?
[22:15] <Guest1984> http://recordmydesktop.sourceforge.net/about.php is my new friend
[22:15] <scunizi> Guest1984: http://recordmydesktop.sourceforge.net/about.php
[22:16] <Neros> tales2010 yes there is, was vista installed first or second?
[22:16] <erUSUL> tales2010: it is the same as otting any other windows
[22:16] <lesbranton> Media keys problem... when I push my volume button it goes either full blast or the volume goes all the way down... no middle ground... anyone know how to fix?
[22:16] <erUSUL> booting*
[22:16] <Guest1984> scunizi: yup working on it ;)
[22:16] <tales2010> Neros, first
[22:16] <unko00> erUSUL, GRR ha it's ok
[22:16] <unko00> erUSUL, so just that command and it should be done?
[22:16] <Neros> tales2010 if vista was installed first the ubuntu installer will add teh grub entry for you
[22:17] <erUSUL> unko00: yes (cross your fingers)
[22:17] <unko00> erUSUL, haha i am. be right back
[22:17] <badfish69> i'm sharing a folder on logan-desktop with the share name 'netbook'
[22:17] <tales2010> Neros, id added.. but it doesn't boot when i select vista entry from grub menu
[22:17] <badfish69> the the usualy \\logan-desktop\netbook is no good
[22:17] <Neros> tales2010 what does it do?
[22:17] <tales2010> Neros, nothing...
[22:18] <Neros> badfish69 the usual method does not apply in ubuntu... you need to go to places and choose network and browse for it
[22:18] <tales2010> Neros, it says loading and vista doesn't appear
[22:18] <badfish69> ah
[22:18] <quentusrex> anyone know of an mp3 bug that would cuase the sound to blink in and out?
[22:18] <Neros> tales2010 hmm.... thats odd.... I don't know how to solve that.... grub has always just worked
[22:18] <quentusrex> like it is stuttered.
[22:18] <quentusrex> for internet streams
[22:18] <PROject-Emerald> Is the ATI Binary X.Org visual driver my ATI Radeon video card drivers? Because every time I try to manually get my ATI radeon card drivers I mess something up
[22:19] <paco> Bonjour; Quelqu'un parle Français sur ce chat?
[22:19] <Guest1984> thx all for your hel, got 2 go
[22:19] <defrysk> !fr
[22:19] <erUSUL> !fr | paco
[22:20] <paco> Merci
[22:20] <lesbranton> Media keys problem... when I push my volume button it goes either full blast (volume up button) or the volume goes all the way down (volume down).
[22:20] <PROject-Emerald>  Is the ATI Binary X.Org visual driver my ATI Radeon video card drivers? Because every time I try to manually get my ATI radeon card drivers I mess something up
[22:20] <leeguy92> hi, all
[22:20] <leeguy92> i know a guy whos got a buffer underrun problem
[22:20] <leeguy92> at least, it sounds like it
[22:21] <leeguy92> hes playing mp3 from an SD card
[22:21] <Knirgh> !repeat | PR0ject-Emerald
[22:21] <leeguy92> recently switched to ibex from windoesnt
[22:21] <unko00> erUSUL, OMG still nothing
[22:21] <Knirgh> leeguy92: what was your question?
[22:21] <leeguy92> now, whilst playing, every now and then he gets skipping
[22:21] <erUSUL> unko00: :|
[22:21] <erUSUL> unko00: same error ?
[22:22] <mgarriss> apt-get install is failing on at 404.  can i add more sources to apt-get somehow?
[22:22] <unko00> erUSUL, i don't know. it seems i can launch programs from the menu like admin programs... i can launch users and groups but i can't unlock it at all
[22:22] <erUSUL> mgarriss: you can change mirror in system>Preferences>software Sources
[22:23] <lightpriest> does anyone know if I can plug s-video and use more then 1024x768?
[22:23] <erUSUL> unko00: i mean do « sudo -i »
[22:23] <leeguy92> ok, im backl
[22:23] <leeguy92> my batt died
[22:23] <NativeAngels> anyone here ever experianced the gnome-panel go mising on desktop
[22:23] <Knirgh> lightpriest: yes, check Screen resolution to set resolution
[22:23] <mgarriss> erUSUL: i'm just ssh'd into this box
[22:23] <leeguy92> my question is: how can i stop this stuttering?
[22:23] <erUSUL> unko00: and while at it « ls -l /usr/bin/sudo »
[22:24] <leeguy92> i am talking on behalf of this guy, as he is away from home, and doesnt have entartoobs access
[22:24] <erUSUL> mgarriss: then you will have to edit /etc/apt/sources.list directly... are you familiar with the format ?
[22:24] <lightpriest> Knirgh, I tried to but I can't select a higher one
[22:25] <Knirgh> leeguy92: please keep your question on one line, or it will be hard to follow your question, also please describe your problem a bit more
[22:25] <lightpriest> Knirgh, someone once told me I can't use s-video for more then 1024x768, is that correct?
[22:25] <tales2010> Neros, is there anyway to re-generate grub config again?
[22:25] <leeguy92> Knirgh: he is trying to play mp3 files off of an SD card. on windows, this worked fine. but since switching to ibex, he has had stuttering whilst playing.
[22:26] <leeguy92> otherwise, he likes the OS, but playing music is it's primary usage
[22:26] <elarrarte> hi all!
[22:26] <tony__> After updating Intrepid..Desktop effects wont work. Please help
[22:26] <stalker314314> hi all,  in xdmcp remote login gnome session (ubuntu-ubuntu), arrow keys, del and pgp/pgdown doesn't work, any idea?
[22:26] <Knirgh> lightpriest: do you have a nvidia card?
[22:26] <meoblast> hi... i'm trying to set up 3d accel on my mom's computer.... it's an Intel GPU.... how can i set up the 3D acell?
[22:27] <lightpriest> Knirgh, nope, it's a thinkpad laptop with intel gpu
[22:27] <elarrarte> does anyone know about dvd burning problems in hardy?
[22:27] <erUSUL> meoblast: it should be enabled by default...
[22:27] <lightpriest> Knirgh, I'm thinking of editing xorg.conf modes section to the second screen but I don't want to do it if it wouldn't work
[22:27] <erUSUL> unko00: ?? i have to leave...
[22:28] <unko00> erUSUL, sudo -i: sudo: /etc/sudoers is mode 0640, should be 0440
[22:28] <leeguy92> can someone help me with this?
[22:28] <leeguy92> is it a common bug?
[22:28] <unko00> and ls -l /usr/bin/sudo: -rwsr-xr-x 1 root root<PHONE_NUMBER>-02-16 22:24 /usr/bin/sudo
[22:28] <Knirgh> lightpriest: i googled your problem and they solved it by going in "nvidia-settings" and changing resolution there
[22:29] <elarrarte>  does anyone know about dvd burning problems in hardy?
[22:29] <lightpriest> Knirgh, thanks - I just don't have nvidia, though I guess it's possible to get a higher resolution in svideo
[22:29] <Knirgh> !anyone | elrrarte
[22:30] <unko00> erUSUL, ?
[22:30] <Knirgh> lightpriest: sorry i can't help you any more:) google is your friend
[22:30] <meoblast> erUSUL: it's not... its a Intel GMA 4500
[22:30] <elarrarte> sorry ... it s my first time here ...
[22:31] <elarrarte> i googled the problem without a solution
[22:31] <meoblast> erUSUL: maybe it would help if my mom actually updated her system
[22:31] <lesbranton> leeguy92: does he transfer the music from the SD card to the HDD?
[22:31] <Knirgh> elarrarte: it's ok, what is your problem then?
[22:31] <xnmrph> Hi. I'm having trouble getting rid of a GPT partition. Anyone good with that kind of thing?
[22:31] <elarrarte> can ´t burn anything in my laptop since i moved to hardy
[22:31] <meoblast> i guess i'll turn on updates automatically... can that be done in Ubuntu desktop?
[22:32] <Knirgh> what program are you using?
[22:32] <elarrarte> 8.10 does not give me the same problem
[22:32] <lesbranton> Media keys problem... when I push my volume button it goes either full blast (volume up button) or the volume goes all the way down (volume down).
[22:32] <elarrarte> no matter what program ... all fail the same way
[22:32] <sambagirl> how can i update my ubuntu installation? i dont see the little thing up in the corner that signifies updates are ready?
[22:32] <elarrarte> "unhandled error"
[22:32] <Knirgh> sambagirl: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[22:33] <lesbranton> sambagirl goto System - Administration - Update Manager
[22:33] <meoblast> can i make Ubuntu install ALL updates without confirmation?
[22:33] <lesbranton> Meoblast: Yes
[22:33] <elarrarte> there is a bug report about that ... too many people are in my same situation ... can 't understand a bug like this is not fixed yet
[22:33] <sambagirl> thanks knirgh
[22:33] <Knirgh> meoblast: try that command
[22:33] <carthik> meoblast right click on the update notification icon and edit the preferences
[22:33] <meoblast> lesbranton: in the Software sources it only says security updates
[22:33] <unko00> erUSUL, should i just re-install?
[22:34] <elarrarte> fresh 8.04 install -> update -> no dvd burning possile
[22:34] <lightpriest> Knirgh, thanks :)
[22:34] <lesbranton> Meoblast: Using 8.10?
[22:34] <meoblast> lesbranton: yes
[22:35] <sambagirl> it says invalid operations for updates and upgrades
[22:35] <sambagirl> i never saw this before.
[22:35] <abicska> hy! sbdy could help me with print sharing on ubuntu server to a linux and an osx?
[22:36] <sambagirl> oh well bbl chao
[22:36] <lesbranton> Meoblast: I see you problem... just says download all updates with only security as being automatically installed.
[22:36] <leeguy92> lesbranton: no, he doesnt, hes playing directly from the SD card. the HDD is too small(is a 4G eeePC)
[22:36] <jdu> abicska, generally you can add network printers and give the path:  http://ipaddress:631/printers/PrinterName
[22:37] <meoblast> lesbranton: my mom wants me to stop fixing her computer... she doesn't mind complaining but never wants to do updates.... :/... i guess i'll just set it to do security updates and get off
[22:37] <lesbranton> leeguy92: IC
[22:37] <elarrarte> knirgh: u there?
[22:37] <leeguy92> it is good that you see :)
[22:37] <lesbranton> meoblast: okay... sry could be more help.
[22:38] <abicska> jdu: can i do it from an other computer?
[22:38] <leeguy92> im talking on irc for him, because he is away from the internet at the moment
[22:38] <carthik> meoblast, you can also set up a cron job to do the updates regularly, say once a week
[22:38] <leeguy92> and will be until friday
[22:38] <abicska> jdu: i mean not from the server bcuz it has no browser
[22:38] <leeguy92> :S
[22:38] <impulse_> rver irc.acid-lounge.org.uk:6668
[22:38] <jdu> abicska, does the server already have printer sharing enabled?
[22:39] <lesbranton> Just happens is Ibex not windows.
[22:39] <supersasho> hi there, can anyone help me with my rl8187 wifi, i can't put it in monitoring mode
[22:39] <chaosrl> can anybody point me in the right direction with TV tuner cards in building a system?
[22:39] <abicska> jdu: could you please help me step by step? ive installed insternet sharing only
[22:39] <elarrarte> can 't burn anything in hardy with my laptop ... fresh install ... any ideas?
[22:40] <leeguy92> lesbranton: yea, doesnt happen in win :(
[22:40] <jdu> abicska, first explain the situation further.  Is the server a desktop install?  What type of network is it in?
[22:40] <lesbranton> leeguy92: hmm... what program does he use to play the mp3 files with?
[22:40] <uba> I can still use OpenVPn to connect to a pay- based vpn such as blacklogic.com right? Or am i suppose to download Cisco VPN?
[22:40] <carthik> elarrarte, you could find out what the make/model of the drive is and search for a fix if there is one
[22:41] <jdu> abicska, well the second question isn't really important.  The point is, what version of ubuntu do you have, and is it the server version?
[22:41] <leeguy92> lesbranton: exaile
[22:41] <uba> elarrarte hardy sucks upgrade to Ibex...is all i can suggest
[22:41] <leeguy92> when he gets back, hes gonna try "listen"
[22:42] <leeguy92> in case it's exaile being a little heavy on the old cpu
[22:42] <elarrarte> uba: but hardy not suppose to be a LTS !!!! what kind of LTS is then?
[22:42] <leeguy92> which is a celeron clocked at 650MHz
[22:42] <abicska> jdu: ive the 8.10 ubuntu server on my pc this is the server and its directly connected to an ubuntu linux laptop and with an other network card it is connected to my dorm's network where the internet is coming from and the osx computer is on the dorm's network
[22:43] <lesbranton> leeguy92: has the lastest program update for exaile... has he tried any other programs?
[22:43] <odinsbane> whats a good filesystem setup that handles permissions and windows computers can read it without installing special software?
[22:43] <leeguy92> lesbranton: no, he hasnt.
[22:43] <elarrarte> i moved to ibex to give it a try ... but now ... ibex does not move well with flash contents .. hardy does ... :-$
[22:43] <uba> elerrarte a very hassly one.
[22:43] <leeguy92> no internets to dl new programs until friday
[22:43] <leeguy92> i just wanted to know, is theres some kind of common cause for this?
[22:43] <pepperjack> odinsbane: only fat32 honestly if you need windows to read it.  of course ntfs will work as well but neither really have permissions support in the sense i think of it
[22:43] <jdu> abicska, ok   when you installed the server, did you select cups?   If not, you will want to run:  sudo apt-get install cups     on the server
[22:44] <uba> elarrarte what flash contents were you trying to move?
[22:44] <julle_> How do i check if i run qt3 or 4 ?
[22:44] <JordiGH> Should I let dpkg do this? http://rafb.net/p/kfJtFr43.html
[22:44] <Knirgh> leeguy: tip him to move to the folder that the music file is (in terminal) and type mplayer MUSICFILE.mp3
[22:44] <abicska> jdu: cups is installed on the server :)
[22:44] <elarrarte> flash 10 + firefox + intel x3100 + ibex = sucks
[22:44] <odinsbane> pepperjack: everything I put on an ntfs file system I get back with all permissions set.
[22:44] <elarrarte> flash 10 + firefox + intel x3100 + hardy = ok
[22:44] <jdu> abicska, good.  Can you access the web interface?
[22:44] <leeguy92> Knirgh: no gud :( he needs a graphical collection manager thingy
[22:45] <lesbranton> Anyone know how to fix media buttons in Ubuntu 8.10?
[22:45] <uba> elarrarte are are you sure it wasnt firefox?
[22:45] <leeguy92> hes essentially looking for a WMP replacement
[22:45] <uba> i hada ton of memory leakage with firefox in intrepid esp when flash was concerned
[22:45] <leeguy92> as far as organizing goes
[22:45] <m1dn1ght> Can anyone tell me if it's possible to change the default icon for a particular file type?  I know how to change individual file icons but would like to do it for, say, all .txt files etc.
[22:45] <xnmrph> fdisk is complaining about a GPT (GUID) partition table. How do I get rid of it ?
[22:45] <abicska> jdu: how can i set the access rights so i can access it from the network?
[22:45] <uba> so i migrarted over to Swiftfox...optimized for my laptop and that helped tremedously
[22:46] <uba> im waiting for Google Chrome tho...apparently thats waaay faster than both\
[22:46] <lesbranton> leeguy92: try using VLC to see if its still choppy... would eliminate if its the program or another bug.
[22:46] <thiebaude> uba: im using arora on 9.04 it is quick
[22:46] <elarrarte> i see that the lastests versions of ubuntu are not well stable ... the hurry too much over each release
[22:46] <_5w155> anybody from Poland?
[22:46] <leeguy92> lesbranton: yea, ill get him to try that on friday
[22:46] <odinsbane> I think I'm going to go with ext2/3
[22:46] <lesbranton> uba: Chrome work on linux?
[22:46] <uba> thiebaude i've never hear of arora?
[22:46] <leeguy92> lesbranton: chromIUM does
[22:46] <thiebaude> !arora
[22:47] <uba> lesbranton as far as i know no official build is out for linux
[22:47] <leeguy92> but basic chromium isnt as developed as google's distro of it
[22:47] <Ljorring> I have a mouse button click delay in 8.04. Have this been fixed? I didn't have any luck with google
[22:47] <abicska> jdu: cuz the ubuntu server has no browser
[22:47] <leeguy92> no flash support for example
[22:47] <uba> lesbranton but there is a bootlegg way you can get it to run
[22:47] <jdu> abicska, it has w3m
[22:47] <leeguy92> but apparently they are working on that
[22:47] <abicska> jdu: what is w3m?
[22:47] <abicska> jdu:w3m is a browser?
[22:47] <jdu> abicska, I think.            You could login with ssh and use w3m
[22:48] <lesbranton> uba: is it better than firefox?
[22:48] <uba> thiebaude so explain this arora
[22:48] <jdu> abicska, w3m http://localhost:631   yes
[22:48] <abicska> jdu: lookin :)
[22:48] <leeguy92> lesbranton: http://build.chromium.org/buildbot/snapshots/chromium-rel-linux/14058/
[22:48] <thiebaude> http://www.ubuntugeek.com/arora-cross-platform-webkit-browser-in-ubuntu.html, uba
[22:48] <jdu> abicska, it's text based
[22:48] <leeguy92> apparently they nearly have the plugins sorted
[22:48] <_5w155> chromium is faster the FF
[22:48] <thiebaude> ff is soo slow
[22:48] <_5w155> then*
[22:49] <odinsbane> is chromium built on the webkit browser?
[22:49] <leeguy92> thiebaude: slower than IE7?
[22:49] <leeguy92> odinsbane: yes
[22:49] <jdu> abicska, from the admin tab, you can enable remote administration
[22:49] <thiebaude> leeguy92: yes
[22:49] <poseidon> Does anyone know of a good text replacer for ubuntu?  ie I type rofl then press a binded key and it converts rofl to Rolling On the Floor Laughing.
[22:49] <leeguy92> chromium compiles javascript to machine code :D
[22:49] <_5w155> leeguy --  much more slower then IE ;-)
[22:49] <mrwes> abicska, w3m http://localhost:631
[22:49] <abicska> jdu: w3m works and i can open localhost. lookin for administration
[22:49] <leeguy92> _5w155: imxp, that is not the case
[22:49] <dhalsim> hi, I'm using bamboo-zen theme, but I don't like the fore color of selected text (back color is light green and fore color is white). it's not readable. how can I change that?
[22:49] <odinsbane> maxthon is a version of ie that has really good performance.
[22:49] <uba> posiedon you mean pidgin?
[22:49] <lesbranton> thiebaude: takes a long time to load FF.
[22:49] <leeguy92> firefox still zips along compared to IE7
[22:50] <thiebaude> arora using qt 4.4
[22:50] <m1dn1ght> Can anyone tell me if it's possible to change the default icon for a particular file type?  I know how to change individual file icons but would like to do it for, say, all .txt files etc.
[22:50] <leeguy92> firefox loads quicker in *nix, i find
[22:50] <uba> FF sucks in Ubuntu
[22:50] <Ljorring> can someone tell me the name of the configfile, where the mouse driver is loaded in X?
[22:50] <thiebaude> lesbranton: 6 sec or so on high speed internet
[22:50] <_5w155> leeguy92: speed is not the case?
[22:50] <uba> its like a thousand times more faster in Vista and the memory leaks take alot longer to reach in VIsta imx
[22:50] <abicska> jdu: first of all pls tell me how can i rename a file bcuz ive deleted the original cups conf files bcuz ive changed it
[22:50] <leeguy92> _5w155: i guess it is unfair to compare IE in win32 to FF in *nix
[22:51] <TheNano> uba: try Epiphany Web Browser then
[22:51] <leeguy92> :-/
[22:51] <jdu> abicska, oh,  is the original totally gone or did you make a backup firstL
[22:51] <uba> Epiphany is theat KDE?
[22:51] <lesbranton> Anyone know about changing DNS servers?
[22:51] <jdu> *?
[22:51] <pepperjack> leeguy92: /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[22:51] <leeguy92> lesbranton: ^
[22:51] <TheNano> uba: no it is Gnome default browser
[22:51] <trcccc> any inside info on chrome for Linux?
[22:51] <m1dn1ght> uba: nope, epiphany is gnome
[22:51] <ericP> any evolution users know how i can create another account (different user on different machine) from which to draw messages par imap
[22:51] <abicska> jdu: i have a backup file that is what i need to rename but i dont know the command for it
[22:52] <ericP> s/par/by/
[22:52] <jdu> jdu,   ok    mv oldname newname
[22:52] <abicska> jdu: working
[22:52] <leeguy92> the chromium javascript engine is luvly and fast
[22:52] <leeguy92> ;P
[22:52] <uba> TheNano its Gnome's default browser..so its already installed swweeet.
[22:52] <jdu> abicska, sorry that was directed to you
[22:52] <_5w155> leeguy92: most of many programs works better on unix platform. It's not comperable.
[22:52] <TheNano> My firefox is fast, addons can make it slow, and you could make ff to chach into ram it will make it faster too
[22:52] <leeguy92> _5w155: i wonder about IE7 under unix using wine.....
[22:53] <lesbranton> leeguy92: hehe!
[22:53] <TheNano> uba: Gnomes not Ubuntus , you neet to sudo apt-get install epiphany
[22:53]  * leeguy92 prefers not to touch proprietary stuffs like that(all my hardware is freeeeeee)
[22:53] <leeguy92> afaik
[22:53] <ericP> New Folder in Evolution doesn't do the trick, and i only know how to be prompted for account setup by doing a first run of evolution
[22:53] <_5w155> leeguy92: I didn't check that :-) I think it's useless
[22:54] <leeguy92> imho chrome < chromium
[22:54] <uba> TheNano you ripped me off you said it was defualt....boo..;)
[22:54] <leeguy92> chromium doesnt phone teh home
[22:54] <leeguy92> about ur BROWSIN HABITZ
[22:54] <Iceman_B|SSH> when I run screen -x on a system that has a lower resulution
[22:54] <rogue780> how do I copy the boot sector from /dev/sdb to /dev/sdc ?
[22:54] <Iceman_B|SSH> why does it scale my first screen connection down ?
[22:54] <baz> whats a good way to search within files?
[22:55] <leeguy92> rogue780: dd if=/dev/sdb of=/dev/sdc bs=512 count=1
[22:55] <uba> u prrogue780 you prolly have to use the cp comand with sudo..but iono for sure
[22:55] <leeguy92> that should do it
[22:55] <abicska> jdu: i cant restart cup bcuz it says: child exited with status 1. what did i do?
[22:55]  * leeguy92 is not responsible for yada yada yada
[22:55] <jdu> abicska, hmm.  I am not sure.
[22:55] <pepperjack> baz: grep something file.txt
[22:55] <dhalsim> baz: grep is fine
[22:55] <rogue780> leeguy92: I thought for some reason that the bs count was less...somewhere in the range of 486
[22:56] <pepperjack> baz: grep is of course case sensitive
[22:56] <abicska> jdu: im googling it pls wait for me :)
[22:56] <leeguy92> rogue780: 512 includes the partition table afaik
[22:56] <leeguy92> maybe 486 is without that
[22:56] <baz> pepperjack, can i search all files and folders in a given folder?
[22:56]  * leeguy92 isnt sure
[22:56] <jdu> abicska, if you go to administration, click on edit config file, then click on use default config file
[22:56] <leeguy92> all i know is that the partition table is part of the boot sector
[22:56] <abicska> jdu: tryin ok
[22:56] <leeguy92> usually, speakin
[22:56] <ccrandall> q
[22:57] <ccrandall> exit
[22:57] <TheNano> uba: It still is , just Ubuntu has decided to use FF instead , I don't really know maybe Epiphany uses code from ff now
[22:57] <lesbranton> Anyone know about changing DNS servers?
[22:57] <pepperjack> lesbranton: gksudo gedit /etc/resolv.conf
[22:57] <pepperjack> lesbranton: change nameserver 1231231 value
[22:58] <jdu> abicska, when you are done on it, make sure "Share published printers connected to this system"  and "Allow printing from the Internet" and perhaps " Allow remote administration" are selected
[22:58] <jdu> s/on/with/
[22:58] <fore> good news guys !!! my nvidia geforce 5500 has direct rendering now!!~!@~!
[22:59] <lesbranton> pepperjack: I hear that my ISP has terrible DNS servers and to try changing them to opendns.org or something like that.
[22:59] <fore> apparently its not supported in 8.04
[22:59] <abicska> jdu: im restarting the server now hope it will restart the cups properly cuz i couldnt access the admin panel
[22:59] <uba> fore whats that mean?
[22:59] <jdu> abicska, even from the server?
[23:00] <abicska> jdu: yes bcuz when i renamed the file i tried to restart cups and it told me error no 1
[23:00] <fore> i dunno i upgraded from 8.04 to 8.10 and my graphics card has direct rendering now
[23:00] <uba> you can use IRC on pidgin, correct?
[23:00] <Knirgh> uba: yes
[23:00] <uba> fore lol
[23:00] <sebsebseb> uba: yes, but   other programs would be better
[23:00] <jdu> abicska, ok.  so now can you access administration?
[23:00] <uba> like what for example?
[23:01] <uba> anything lightweight?
[23:01] <Knirgh>  uba: xchat-gnome
[23:01] <sebsebseb> uba: Xchat is popular, but I use Konversation, that puts on  KDE stuff though
[23:01] <sebsebseb> uba: there irssi  for the terminal, and   chatzilla as a Firefox add on
[23:01] <jdu> irssi works well though I am not using it right now
[23:01] <abicska> jdu: pfuhh... something went wrong bcuz it says cups failed to start
[23:01] <abicska> jdu: lookin in the logs
[23:02] <uba> Xchat sounds like it might be good...
[23:02] <sebsebseb> uba: Konversation :)
[23:02] <uba> lemme go look for the package...cuz my metered internet on my laptop just ran out
[23:02] <sebsebseb> uba: ,but it will put on KDE stuff, unless you already got installed
[23:02] <jdu> abicska, ok.   well you might just try purging cups and then reinstalling it.
[23:02] <uba> sebsebseb I dont think i have KDE installed
[23:02] <abicska> jdu: the error log says: Unable to bind socket for address <IP_ADDRESS>:631 - Address already in use.
[23:02] <abicska> jdu: how can i do it?
[23:03] <sebsebseb> uba: don't need the whole of KDE installed, to run  many of it's apps in Gnome
[23:03] <Gnea> this is going to be interesting.  currently upgrading a 7.10 system to 8.04, which will then go to 8.10, and then to 9.04
[23:03] <abicska> jdu: apt-get install cups
[23:03] <abicska> jdu: how to remove it?:)
[23:03] <jdu> abicska, really.  is cups already running once?    Try:  apt-get purge cups   firestn
[23:03] <sebsebseb> Gnea: well you got to clean install for full Ext4 suppourt in 9.04
[23:03] <jdu> *first
[23:03] <sebsebseb> Gnea: ,but can do something to Ext3 for partial
[23:03] <jdu> abicska,  purge will remove everything including config files
[23:03] <Gnea> sebsebseb: only if I want to format the / as ext4, right?
[23:04] <sebsebseb> Gnea: unless your going to have Ext4, probably not that much point in 9.04
[23:04] <uba> sebsebseb oh really...well i dont have internet on my ubuntu laptop right now
[23:04] <Knirgh> whats the difference between ext3 and ext4?
[23:04] <abicska> jdu: its downloading
[23:04] <hwilde> hi I have two monitors with two xscreens using nvidia-config.  when I only have mouse and kb activity in the right monitor, both of them dim and go to sleep.  only activity in the left monitor is recognized to wake it up.  how can I fix this please?
[23:04] <uba> Knirgh ext4 is supposed to be faster
[23:04] <jdu> Knirgh, primarilly ext4  uses extents whereas ext3 uses blocks
[23:04] <jdu> abicska, ok
[23:05] <Gnea> sebsebseb: well, I'm going to get it working stable, then worry about ext4. I'm sure I can convert my / from ext3 to ext4 without having to install from the get-go :)
[23:05] <meoblast001> what folder do i delete to completely erase kdenlive settings
[23:05] <sebsebseb> Gnea: yeah, but  it won't be 100%  full Ext4
[23:05] <dhalsim> how can I edit a theme?
[23:05] <Gnea> sebsebseb: not if I do it my way
[23:05] <sebsebseb> Gnea: something to do with files etc  like  the old files are Ext3, and the new files are Ext4
[23:05] <sebsebseb> Gnea: what's your way?
[23:06] <Gnea> sebsebseb: it doesn't work like that - files are files, they don't care
[23:06] <Gnea> sebsebseb: make a backup, reformat, copy the files back over ;)
[23:06] <pepperjack> meoblast001: .kde/share/config/kden*  maybe
[23:06] <uba> Gnea are you sure that will work
[23:06] <sebsebseb> Gnea: 8.04 is pretty nice, and yeah the long term suppourt release, unlike 8.10 and 9.04
[23:06] <Gnea> uba: why wouldn't it?
[23:06] <axell> see you
[23:06] <abicska> jdu: i did smthg very very wrong bcuz cups cant start
[23:07] <jdu> abicska, what is the error?
[23:07] <Gnea> sebsebseb: uhm, 9.04 isn't an LTS release?
[23:07] <aeandra> what is the ubuntulooks theme engine
[23:07] <uba> Gnea I dont know I was just asking? cuz that was my plan...but ppl were saying it was a no-go.
[23:07] <sebsebseb> Gnea: correct, 9.04 is not LTS
[23:07] <jdu> abicska, you purged it, installed it, and ?
[23:07] <meoblast001> pepperjack: thanks
[23:07] <Gnea> sebsebseb: interesting. oh well.
[23:07] <TopBunny88> sebsebseb: I am runnuning the 8.04 LTS release
[23:07] <Gnea> uba: I haven't actually done it yet with 9.04, so I can't say for sure.
[23:07] <sebsebseb> Gnea: 9.04 is not that great either,  some under the hood stuff though,  it's got arm in there
[23:08] <Oli``> I've somehow managed to completely break anonymous samba shares (without doing anything AFAIK). I can only log in from a windows box when I give my ubuntu user/pass. How do I revert that?
[23:08] <sebsebseb> Gnea: new version of Gnome, new default log in screen, and that's about it.
[23:08] <Gnea> sebsebseb: well, it's a system that I haven't run in a long time (just put a new PSU in it yesterday) so I don't care which way it goes :)
[23:08] <abicska> jdu: ive purged it reinstalled and it says when im trying to start it: cupsd: Child exited with status 1! and the error log says port 631 is already takenj
[23:08] <sebsebseb> Gnea: and Ext4 yeah
[23:08] <Z3ro3X> I've been having random (all though rare) hard lock ups after installing ubuntu 9.04 with / as ext4.  Is this from the new file system or running the RC of ubuntu?
[23:08] <jdu> Gnea, as I understand it, files that were originally made with ext3 will be transparently left as though they were ext3 even after an ext4 upgrade.  The difference in upgrade will only come with new files.
[23:08] <poseidon> uba, I thought pidgin was an im client?
[23:08] <cros13> hi, I'm having a bit of an issue upgrading xulrunner. Dpkg hangs at "Setting up". It affects no other package but xulrunner and affects multiple versiond from different repos... so I'm thinking its an issue on my system. Anyone have any ideas?
[23:09] <Gnea> sebsebseb: I couldn't care less about gnome, as I'll be using it to compile the latest E
[23:09] <uba> Gnea ok cool
[23:09] <Gnea> jdu: which is why I would copy them to a backup medium, then copy them back to the new ext4.
[23:09] <sebsebseb> TopBunny88: my  upgraded from  8.10 to alpha6, to beta, to rc,  well  I some issues after  the upgrade from 8.10, as expected, but  those issues never got fixed when upgrading.   so  I am preperaring my computer for a nice clean install of  9.04  once the final is out, and I do Ext4 yeah
[23:09] <Gnea> of course, the backup medium would be ext4
[23:09] <sebsebseb> TopBunny88: glad I never upgraded  the family computer to  8.10 though
[23:09] <sebsebseb> TopBunny88: glad that's still running hardy
[23:10] <cros13> the main feature of ext4 that will only apply to new files is extents... don't bother about it
[23:10] <jdu> Gnea, so that is your way.  will work
[23:10] <sebsebseb> TopBunny88: ,because it's mainly my little brother that uses  Ubuntu on there,  parants locked into  XP.   and  my little brother only  wants to play games pretty much.  so  upgrade to 8.10 wasn't really worth it,  and that's got about a year of suppourt.  and what I have seen of 9.04 isn't worth it, in this case either. so yes glad it's still running 8.04
[23:11] <Knirgh> i'd like to add another WM at same time, is it possible to have like gnome and KDE up at same time?
[23:11] <jdu> abicska, I would suggest googling on that.  I have to go.  Basically, once you get that working, enable sharing from the web interface then, from the other computers, enter  http://ipaddress:631/printers/PrinterName
[23:11] <Gnea> jdu: excellent
[23:11] <uba> so if I install 9.04 as a clean install what should i backup in my current install to make sure all my programs and deb packages  stay the same..and maybe some configuration setting also?
[23:12] <jdu> Knirgh, yes,  on different displays
[23:12] <abicska> jdu: thank for your help!! good bye :)
[23:12] <Knirgh> jdu: can you remind of that command? i remember seeing it somewhere
[23:12]  * cros13 ctrl-c's another hung xulrunner install script.... :(
[23:12] <sebsebseb> uba: you can backup your Firefox profile.   the  .mozilla folder in home
[23:13] <jdu> Knirgh, I have to go.  but there are multiple   one way is to switch to a virtual terminal and use xinit to create a new session
[23:13] <sebsebseb> uba: ,but  unless you got some really fancy  setup with scripts and I don't know what,  I would recommend pretty much just starting over :)
[23:13] <FloodBot1> !netsplit
[23:13] <Knirgh> jdu: ok thanks, xinit was the thing i saw
[23:14] <uba> sebsebseb you see the problem is I pay for my bandwith and I really dont want to have download everything once again
[23:14] <drguildo> how do i change which sound devices volume gets changed when i use the multimedia keys on my keyboard?
[23:14] <sebsebseb> uba: your on 8.10 yes?
[23:14] <uba> in face alot of stuff I dont even remember what i've downloaded
[23:14] <drguildo> at the moment it's changing the alsa one, not the pulse audio
[23:14] <uba> sebsebseb yes im using 8.10
[23:14] <Z3ro3X> I think I just felt a great disturbance in the force.
[23:14] <sebsebseb> uba: dpkg -l  lists programs you have installed.   9.04  is not really worth it,  except for Ext4
[23:14] <drguildo> i changed volume applet->preferences
[23:14] <sebsebseb> uba: for most people
[23:15] <pepperjack> uba: youll need to since all the packages will be diff. you wont be able to use the /var/cache/ deb files in upgraded version
[23:15] <drguildo> but that doesn't seem to affect the multimedia keys stuff
[23:15] <sickcows> hello... i have ubuntu studio installed, should i download Ubuntu 9.04 or something?
[23:15] <sickcows> will it self-upgrade  to 9.04 ?
[23:15] <pepperjack> sickcows: yes
[23:15] <uba> sebsebseb thanks for that command I'll definitely use it
[23:15] <sebsebseb> newer is not always better,  8.10 and 8.04, have certain advantages over 9.04
[23:16] <sebsebseb> and with Ubuntu, it's not so much about what is new, it's about what is supported still
[23:16] <sickcows> yes, like i should download it, or yes it will self-upgrade? :D
[23:16] <m1dn1ght> Can anyone tell me if it's possible to change the default icon for a particular file type?  I know how to change individual file icons but would like to do it for, say, all .txt files etc.
[23:16] <NimbleRabit> My apt-get update suddenly stopped working, says W: GPG error: http://ppa.launchpad.net intrepid Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 8AD328D8A58BCAE3
[23:16] <pepperjack> sickcows: upgrade is really pretty trivial
[23:16] <cros13> i like shiny objects... and beta code :)
[23:16] <pepperjack> !upgrade > sickcows
[23:17] <sickcows> ok, thanx
[23:17] <sebsebseb> uba: you get my PM?
[23:18] <uba> sebsebseb negative....its probrably cuz right now im using a web-based irc called mibbit
[23:18] <sebsebseb> uba: yeah I noticed in your hostname, that your on something rubbish
[23:18] <uba> sebsebseb as i said before i have no internet on my personal laptop
[23:18] <uba> sebsebseb lol
[23:18] <luceat> Heya! Trying to get audio over hdmi to work on my hp9665eo laptop, it's ALC268, I've used a great script to upgrade to 1.0.19 aswell as getting the latest driver snap. Still don't see any HDMI or digital stuff in aplay -l or -L . any ideas? can't find a matching model to enter into /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base
[23:18] <sebsebseb> uba: the only major improvement with 9.04 is Ext4,  everything else is just minor improvements here and there, for example a new log in screen, and a newer version of Gnome
[23:18] <uba> sebsebseb are you from England
[23:19] <fiftycal> what package do I need to install to give sox coreaudio support? or do I need to roll my own?
[23:19] <sebsebseb> uba: plus how they removed  shutdown and logout from the system menu,  well  I don't even consider that an improvement.   yeah since fast user account switcher.   I don't want to go  off topic to much about that here though
[23:19] <uba> sebsebseb so basically a beauty tweak
[23:20] <sebsebseb> uba: so basically 9.04 is pretty pointless, unless going to  have Ext4
[23:20] <sebsebseb> uba: or  want fading backgrounds when changing the backgrounds and stuff like that
[23:21] <uba> sebsebseb so damn i guess i might wait...on the upgrade but hey maybe ill try out the livecd
[23:22] <frostburn> sebsebseb, newer releases also have the advantage of being supported, and more features in the packages, and many bugfixes
[23:22] <sebsebseb> frostburn: sure, but 8.04 is long term suppourt,  8.10 and  9.04  will stop being suppourted, when 8.04 is still suppourted
[23:22] <uba> sebsebseb but 8.04 was garbage for me....
[23:22] <Zxcvb> are dual video card (switchable) laptops fully supported in ubuntu?
[23:23] <sebsebseb> uba: ok well,  you will probably find that really 9.04 isn't much of an improvement for you over 8.10,   unless  you do  Ext4
[23:23] <uba> sebsebseb but nah you've already conviced me not to install it
[23:23] <dassouki> is there a subtitute for automatix, now that it's the first time i format my pc since 5.10
[23:23] <frostburn> sebsebseb, mysql and php are both updated
[23:23] <lesbranton> sebsebseb: if you do ext4 do you have to reformat.
[23:23] <sebsebseb> uba: I didn't say not to install
[23:24] <uba> sebsebseb i know you didnt explicitly say that...but your arguments were pretty persuasive
[23:24] <sebsebseb> uba: I am just saying you may not really get any benefits  from 9.04, unless...  I don't want to repeate myself agian
[23:24] <Jordan_U> dassouki, Automatix is not necessary and was horrible when it existed.
[23:24] <frefre> hi
[23:24] <uba> sebsebseb so the only way ill install it now is if i truly enjoy the benefits thru the livecd first
[23:24] <frefre> (excuse me for my langiage i'm french)
[23:24] <bonhoffer> how do i find out what processor i have
[23:24] <frefre> but i need help, i try to install ubuntu
[23:25] <firefila> is 9.04 released today ?
[23:25] <lesbranton> 2 days
[23:25] <frostburn> bonhoffer, cat /proc/cpuinfo
[23:25] <frefre> and i have a GRUB error at the boot
[23:25] <m1dn1ght> Can anyone tell me if it's possible to change the default icon for a particular file type?  I know how to change individual file icons but would like to do it for, say, all .txt files etc.
[23:25] <lesbranton> 23rd
[23:25] <firefila> in 2 days ?
[23:25] <sebsebseb> lesbranton: well there is a way to  get partial suppourt for Ext3,  but yes  best to clean install and set up proper Ext4 partitions, for that file system
[23:25] <bonhoffer> frostburn, thanks
[23:25] <dassouki> Jordan_U: any recommended installs now that i just installed 8.10 ? such as codecs ? and all that good stuff
[23:25] <frefre> anyone can help me with grub ?
[23:25] <sebsebseb> uba: thing is with 8.10, that will  stop being suppourted, when  8.04 and  9.04 are still being suppourted
[23:26] <frostburn> frefre, post your grub error and then people can troubleshoot
[23:26] <maodun> i need a blazingly fast way to delete certain words from a large corpus of texts... I'm currently using sed. Does anyone know if there is a faster tool that I should be using?
[23:26] <lesbranton> sebsebseb: I am pretty much a clean install right now anyways... except I spent a few hours getting my sound to work.
[23:26] <frefre> it's an error 17
[23:26] <frostburn> maodun, sed is probably the fastest tool out there
[23:26] <uba> sebsebseb really i didnt know that...although i prolyl shoud've i read that somewhre
[23:26] <sebsebseb> lesbranton: 9.04 RC  clean install with Ext4?
[23:26] <sebsebseb> uba: yes  8.10  October 2008
[23:26] <frefre> the partition is there but it's impossible to boot it
[23:26] <uba> sebsebseb damn it now you got me scare lol.....:D
[23:27] <maodun> frostburn - ok, thanks
[23:27] <Jordan_U> dassouki, The package ubuntu-restricted-extras will get you all of the major codecs except libdvdcss for legal reasons, and flash java and some other proprietary goodness
[23:27] <sebsebseb> uba:  non  LTS releases get a year and a half suppourt on the desktop,  where as LTS gets 3 years
[23:27] <frefre> i've two hard drive one on XP and the other one on ubuntu
[23:27] <uba> dassouki you might also want to install peazip
[23:27] <maodun> also, is jaunty coming out on thursday?
[23:27] <lesbranton> sebsebseb: LTS?
[23:27] <dassouki> thank u
[23:27] <manpoole> can you brun a 700meg live cd iso to a dvd?
[23:27] <lstarnes> maodun: I think so
[23:27] <manpoole> will it boot?
[23:27] <lstarnes> lesbranton: Long Term Support
[23:27] <maodun> cool, thanks
[23:28] <sebsebseb> maodun: yep, and I am looking foward to being in here, when people are  wondering how to shut it down and logout, because they removed that from the system menu,  it will make my day, if someone asks
[23:28] <uba> sebsebseb yea i understand that jive..but thing is 8.04 sucks for me and 8.10 rocks my socks...so thats a dilemma
[23:28] <frefre> yeah it will manpoole i just did it
[23:28] <frefre> ^
[23:28] <frostburn> frefre, check out http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=442945  might help you, otherwise check out the documentation on the gentoo site for grub http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&ct=res&cd=1&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.gentoo.org%2Fdoc%2Fen%2Fhandbook%2Fhandbook-x86.xml%3Fpart%3D1%26chap%3D10&ei=__bsSYn2I5j4McHUgeoF&usg=AFQjCNEszkn5b_pnF6Z4ax_pMCo_12WrIw&sig2=vpD7WeZcOLbp_LoiCXHk2g
[23:28] <manpoole> sweet cdrs are so 90's lol
[23:28] <manpoole> frostburn what distro?
[23:28] <frostburn> manpoole, just boot to usb cd
[23:29] <frostburn> what's that?
[23:29] <uba> dassouki also VLC and a browser of you choice if FF aint happening
[23:29] <manpoole> oh i mean frefre
[23:29] <lesbranton> I think I will wait a bit for them to finish working out the bugs of 9.04 before I install.
[23:29] <TheTurtleMoves> I just ran chkrootkit, and I got "Checking `bindshell'... INFECTED (PORTS:  6667)". How concerned should I be?
[23:29] <frostburn> manpoole, http://lubi.sourceforge.net/unetbootin.html
[23:29] <sebsebseb> uba: I  have  used Ubuntu since the second release in 2005,  I have seen this distro  improve  here and there, but also go a bit bad here and there
[23:29] <Huufarted> Possibly OT question for the channel...  In Ubuntu, to sync to an iPod (Nano 4G or Classic 80 GB), will I be required to replace the firmware on the device or will Amarok (or another app) be able to sync music to it without modifying the firmware?
[23:29] <manpoole> brasero burned the cd fine
[23:29] <manpoole> now it is a question of booting
[23:29] <frostburn> TheTurtleMoves, 6667 is irc...
[23:29] <manpoole> or should i say dvd
[23:30] <TheTurtleMoves> I know...
[23:30] <lstarnes> TheTurtleMoves: it may be a good idea to double-check with rkhunter
[23:30] <dassouki> uba: i got vlc , i guess there were also some fonts installed in automatix and mp3 support and all that stuff. i'm installing ubuntu...extras now , and peazip, what does livdcss do
[23:30] <TheTurtleMoves> I wasn't running an IRC client at the time.
[23:30] <Xcell> chkroot
[23:30] <TheTurtleMoves> lstarnes, OK.
[23:30] <Jordan_U> Huufarted, IIRC everything below ipod touch / iphone work with the default firmware
[23:30] <Xcell> both work fine
[23:30] <manpoole> brbr going to try out openSUSE
[23:30] <uba> sebsebseb Cool. So you're very knowledgeable on this. You've given me alot to think about
[23:30] <yorky501> quick question, how do i change the number of workspaces i have from 2 to 4
[23:31] <sebsebseb> uba: and tried   9.04 early etc,  and as a result   I am not really sure if I can tell loads of people to upgrade 8.10 to it yet.   I guess if people get say a wireless issue in  8.10 they can  try 9.04 instead,  9.04  is meant to have better suppourt for atheros wireless's I read
[23:31] <uba> dassouki libdvdcss is supposed to allow you to watch encrypted commercial DVDs
[23:31] <Huufarted> Jordan_U: thank you.  :)  Do you know of a resource on a page somewhere that could possibly confirm this?  The reason I ask is I'm buying a Nano 4G for my niece when I go to visit her this summer, but the laptop I'm taking has my music and is Ubuntu.  I want to make sure I can load it up for her.
[23:31] <Gnea> sebsebseb: this is why I'm waiting for the formal release before making any such recommendation
[23:31] <sebsebseb> Gnea: same here
[23:31] <dassouki> uba: ah thanks, i'll install it, i don't watch movies anyway but i'll do it just incase i get a demo or something
[23:31] <sebsebseb> Gnea: and for me to do my nice clean install with Ext4 :)
[23:32] <Gnea> lol
[23:32] <dassouki> another question. i have windows software taht doesn't work on wine, will it work on vmware ?
[23:32] <sebsebseb> Gnea: before I start recommending people to upgrade or not,  more properly
[23:32] <Jordan_U> !ipod | Huufarted
[23:32] <Gnea> sebsebseb: sounds like a plan :)
[23:32] <sebsebseb> Gnea: my upgrades from 8.10 to alpha6 went bad
[23:32] <Huufarted> Jordan_U: thanks.  :)  I appreciate that
[23:32] <sebsebseb> Gnea: issues remained
[23:32] <Jordan_U> Huufarted, np :)
[23:32] <uba> sebsebseb cool smart on your half...and yes good lokking on the wireless that was one of my main problems with 8.04 install had i not upgraded too 8.10 id prolly still be in vista
[23:32] <lesbranton> VISTA? OMG!
[23:33] <lesbranton> HeHe!
[23:33] <sebsebseb> uba: ,but with Ext3 and  what I have seen of 9.04 it hardly seems worth it
[23:33] <uba> dassouki i dont know if you have a mp3 that plays ogg format but if you do you can save space by converting to ogg with Sound Converter
[23:33] <dassouki> uba: i'm part of the corporation, i own an ipod
[23:34] <uba> sebsebseb ok thanks for the info
[23:34] <dassouki> i use gtkpod
[23:34] <Jordan_U> dassouki, Anything that runs on windows but doesn't require accelerated 3D ( and some things that do ) will run on windows in VMware
[23:34] <uba> dassouki lol...and you dont have rockbox?
[23:34] <sebsebseb> uba: ,but I have heard and read reviews for Ext4, it's meant to be much better than Ext3
[23:34] <dassouki> uba: no i'm happy with gtkpod
[23:34] <sebsebseb> uba: well that is if the issues are properly fixed now in Ubuntu, which  they seem to be now
[23:34] <dassouki> i've been using it for a few years
[23:34] <frefre> can someone help me to configure GRUB please ?
[23:35] <frefre> it's probably not much
[23:35] <Jordan_U> frefre, What problem are you having?
[23:35] <Huufarted> !ask | frefre
[23:35] <frefre> but i can't find what is wrong
[23:35] <Cyberamigo> hello, how can i put a low-latency kernel in ubuntu intrepid 8.1?
[23:35] <frefre> i install ubuntu 8.04.2 today on a second hard drive
[23:35] <uba> dassouki if you have a big music collection.... you can use EasyTag to auto-get the names from the internet
[23:35] <frefre> and since when i boot GRUB make an error 17
[23:35] <sebsebseb> Cyberamigo: it's Ubuntu, people don't tend to install  their own kernel
[23:36] <TheTurtleMoves> OK, so rkhunter gave me nothing, and chrootkit says bindshell is infected.
[23:36] <Cyberamigo> where can i find more information?debian?
[23:36] <dassouki> uba: no mostly podcasts and audible.com stuff
[23:36] <sebsebseb> !Debian |  Cyberamigo