[00:00] <bkraptor> Odd-rationale: thanks. I didn't know I had to register my nickname to send/receive messages from unregistered users.
[00:00] <tommy`> fsckr: do you have cool effect?
[00:00] <NoobSauce> Jordan_U: If it's indeed the multiple GPUs causing a problem, This could be a big problem since this is supposed to be a multimedia box! :P I'm not sure what would happen if it works without the other GPU :P
[00:00] <Odd-rationale> bkraptor: NP
[00:00] <skyfalcon866> #kubuntu
[00:00] <fsckr> dont think so tommy` i dont even know wwhat the cool effect is
[00:01] <usser> zomg cool effect
[00:01] <Benalex> Hello all, is the attack on #Ubuntu over ?
[00:01] <digitori> fsckr: he must mean something to do with compiz/beryl?
[00:01] <IndyGunFreak> LucianIndy: didn't know you were still around.
[00:01] <froggy_> So I go to repositories to enable "them" what's them where do I find them?
[00:01] <NoobSauce> Jordan_U: LjL: IndyGunFreak: So without the HDMI-out card, it works... I'm unsure what I can do about this though... maybe this is a motherboard issue... /me -> forums
[00:01] <Jordan_U> NoobSauce, There is a way in your Xorg.conf to specify a specific PCI BUS ( I don't remember how ), that might get it working
[00:01] <LjL> Benalex: attack?
[00:01] <LucianIndy> IndyGunFreak, here and there. still learning tho :D
[00:01] <IndyGunFreak> LucianIndy: we all are.
[00:01] <fsckr> hehe i dunno..i just went to open up my emerald manager to change my theme and the darn thing is blank LOL
[00:02] <digitori> froggy: repositories can be enabled in synaptic package manager
[00:02] <LucianIndy> i just made my first usplash, successfully
[00:02] <IndyGunFreak> NoobSauce: very wierd...
[00:02] <LucianIndy> :)
[00:02] <Benalex> LjL, Yeah there was an attack this morning... flooding attack
[00:02] <destructo> Is anyone here familiar with the freenode network?
[00:02] <Powhatanbob> can anyone suggest a pascal compiler for ubuntu? (or does it come with one already?)
[00:02] <froggy_> I'm in the package manager in repositories...
[00:02] <jeroenvrp> kitche: well gspace (firefox ext) works
[00:02] <AdioHyperion> choudesh: are you back yet?
[00:02] <froggy_> then I need to enable "them"
[00:02] <LjL> Benalex: err... yes, it's over, it was 12 hours ago =)
[00:02] <IndyGunFreak> NoobSauce: i'd have never thought that, so you're using an onboard device now, right?
[00:02] <froggy_> what is "them"?
[00:02] <jeroenvrp> using that than instead
[00:02] <jsoftw> I dont understand why people even use those silly beryl type gizmos. I mean, its not like it actually increases productivity or anything. Surely one has something better to do than watch pretty effects all day long? :)
[00:02] <digitori> fp-compiler is a pascal compiler on ubuntu
[00:03] <Odd-rationale> jsoftw: To show off to our windows friends. ;)
[00:03] <Benalex> I have been thinking all the day, why would someone create a worm or a virus to attack Ubuntu??..
[00:03] <kitche> jsoftw: I use compiz really just for true transparency for my terms :)
[00:03] <tapas> i'm still trying to figure out how to get both vboxdrv and nvidia-glx in the same kernel
[00:03] <jsoftw> kitche: why do you even need that though?
[00:03] <LjL> !ot | Benalex
[00:03] <ubotu> Benalex: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[00:03] <Benalex> anyway... We are already here
[00:03] <raulh> umm, i can't find tremulous in my add/remove thing and when i got to their site the sourceforge link is dead any ideas?
[00:03] <NoobSauce> IndyGunFreak: Well, yeah. There's on-board video which I guess I'm using now, and then there's this HDMI card that comes with the motherboard (it's not a regular card, it has a feed directly off the motherboard as well as PCI). I'm thinking this non-normal setup is what's causing linux to get confuzzled
[00:03] <phasegen> anyone have any luck with cedega and oblivion under gutsy amd64?
[00:03] <LucianIndy> jsoftw, its a perk
[00:03] <nantax> using beryl gives you bragging rights against windows users (in terms of eye candy)
[00:03] <jsoftw> :|
[00:03] <Jarhyn> I just hope they fix that windows UDF dvd issue
[00:03] <Jordan_U> jsoftw, Though it's mostly pointless there are some very usefull effects, and benefits to rendering windows as textures with GPU acceleration rather than with the CPU
[00:03] <Jarhyn> soonish
[00:03] <IndyGunFreak> NoobSauce: sounds it.
[00:03] <raulh> jarhy what issue?
[00:04] <kitche> jsoftw: I don't really but fake transparency's I hate
[00:04] <raulh> my dvd plays just fine 0_o
[00:04] <Odd-rationale> raulh: Did you enable all applications?
[00:04] <raulh> yes i did
[00:04] <skyfalcon866> i want to try kubuntu is it nessecry to reinstall kubuntu
[00:04] <NoobSauce> IndyGunFreak: I don't want to rub it in, but as you can see, I actually wasn't doing anything wrong :) Don't be so quick to assume
[00:04] <Jarhyn> Ubuntu can't mount DVDs made using the vista single/multi-session drag and drop file creation that uses UDF
[00:04] <IndyGunFreak> NoobSauce: lol
[00:04] <Odd-rationale> raulh: Universe and multiuniverse?
[00:04] <Benalex> LjL, ... I am here to ask about :  How can I disable "Link to" prefix when creating shortcuts??
[00:05] <Jarhyn> I banged my head against a wall for 2 days trying to figure that out
[00:05] <Jordan_U> skyfalcon866, No, you can install "kubuntu" on top of Ubuntu and vice-versa, they are just different sets of default applications
[00:05] <LjL> Benalex: no idea sorry, not on GNOME here
[00:05] <raulh> odd, seems you know much about this guide me D:
[00:05] <Benalex> ok.. Can anyone tell me how can I disable Link to prefixing when creating shortcuts?
[00:06] <Jordan_U> Jarhyn, Are you sure there is no way, or does it just not work "Out of the box" ?
[00:06] <cabroni_> does pygame create 3d games?  =O
[00:06] <Odd-rationale> raulh: Can you get it now?
[00:06] <Jarhyn> pretty damn sure. I even recompiled the kernel trying to get it to work
[00:06] <raulh> no
[00:06] <raulh> omg i found it lol
[00:06] <Jarhyn> I fucked with fstab for 3 hours
[00:06] <LjL> !language
[00:06] <Odd-rationale> raulh: OK
[00:06] <ubotu> Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[00:06] <Jarhyn> rawr...
[00:07] <Jarhyn> sorry, hard for a soldier to watch what he says. or types
[00:07] <LjL> is that the angry version of lawl?
[00:07] <raulh> unable to get expl\\clusive lock
[00:07] <raulh> umm  0_o
[00:07] <digitori> steve Jahryn Im sure I read a solution to vista UDF problem on gibson's grc webpage
[00:07] <Jarhyn> no, it's the furfag version
[00:07] <Jarhyn> I'll check that out then
[00:07] <Jarhyn> thanks digitori
[00:07] <Jordan_U> Benalex, I don't know if there is a preference in nautilus but you can always change the name afterwards or use "ln -s" directly from the terminal
[00:07] <Benalex>    Jarhyn : what exactly you are trying to do??
[00:07] <Odd-rationale> raulh: Make sure you close all other apt-get/aptitude/synaptic/etc.
[00:08] <raulh> thers nothin g open
[00:08] <Jarhyn> make a ubuntu system mount a UDF volume made in windows vista
[00:08] <raulh> cept pidgin, firefox and add remove
[00:08] <jsoftw> nautilus :|
[00:08] <Jarhyn> it's much harder than it sounds
[00:08] <Jordan_U> raulh, Did one of those apps crash recently?
[00:08] <Benalex> Jordan_U, it says mising parameter
[00:08] <Jarhyn> windows vista doesn't exactly obey standards ruls very well
[00:08] <Odd-rationale> raulh: Hmm. Reboot should do it.
[00:08] <raulh> umm frostwire in packrger did
[00:09] <Jarhyn> anyway, they're kicking me out of the intarweb space now
[00:09] <Jarhyn> I'll be by later
[00:09] <Benalex> Jarhyn, I use Storage Device manager to configure fstab, very simple full GUI awesome
[00:09] <vis^^> hm... is recovery mode supposed to not being connected to a network?
[00:09] <raulh> ok restarting
[00:09] <amason_> hi guys ,  i need to install some newer versions of some software on a dapper system. can i use apt for this or can i just upgrade the packages with dpkg ?
[00:09] <Jordan_U> Benalex, The syntax for ln -s is "ln -s /path/to/origianal /path/to/symbolic-link"
[00:09] <lumpy> bbiab gonna see if this worked...
[00:10] <kitche> amason_: umm if there are dapper packages you can just use dpkg if not have to install them yourself
[00:10] <phasegen> just get a pirated windows xp and get rid of vista, if microsoft won't trade you, it's only fair
[00:10] <Jordan_U> Benalex, A symbolic link in Unix is basically the same as a windows shortcut
[00:10] <amason_> kitche: they aren't dapper packages afaik.
[00:10] <Benalex> Jordan_U, I don't get it , What exactly ln -s does?
[00:10] <kitche> amason_: then compile or install them yourself
[00:10] <amason_> kit
[00:10] <Jarhyn> or not. it still works outside the building
[00:10] <amason_> kitche: that wasn't my question
[00:10] <Jarhyn> awesome
[00:11] <miles8> Okay, so performance of the ati driver (not fglrx) is crappy in Gusty, but was fine in Feisty.  Is there anyway to downgrade the driver and or Xorg?
[00:11] <tapas> ahm hum restrictred-modules wasn't installed..
[00:11] <amason_> kitche: if i compile from src, i don't want apt to complain on update
[00:11] <amason_> i just want it to skip that package
[00:11] <kitche> amason_: I answered your question then you told me they aren't dapper packages so I replied
[00:11] <storywarden> question, and i don't' know if there's an easy answer to it.  I know practically 0 about ubuntu, but i'm pretty good at computers, and i'm trying to help my husband out, who knows way more about Ubuntu than I do.  He has ubuntu loaded on his pc with no problems at all, and then decided he wanted to partition it and load winXP on a secondary partiion so we could play games together (my main computer is winXP i know i suck) he was able
[00:11] <Jordan_U> Benalex, It makes symbolic links ( shortcuts ) to files, it does the same thing that right clicking a file in nautilus and choosing "make link" does, but in the terminal instead of the GUI
[00:11] <wb1722> so can anyone help me find my drive
[00:12] <kitche> amason_: dapper won't have new packages unless they are security updates
[00:12] <Benalex> Jordan_U, ... Coool , thank you, I will read the manual of ln... "man ln" right?
[00:12] <Jordan_U> storywarden, Did windows clobber GRUB ( Ubuntu's boot loader ) ?
[00:12] <Jarhyn> well, time for me to go download furporn...
[00:12] <Jordan_U> Benalex, Yes
[00:13] <storywarden> It may have but he used a special cd he got to restore GRUB after the invasion of windows took over.
[00:13] <amason_> kitche: ok i'll reprhrase. i have the option to install src or some debian packages.I want apt to not complain on update, i just want it to ignore those packages. Can I blacklist these packages in apt ?
[00:13] <bkraptor_> does anyone know how to un-hide the userlist so that it is part of the main window?
[00:13] <Odd-rationale> storywarden: So basically he wants to install windows after ubuntu?
[00:13] <kitche> amason_: of course you can
[00:13] <storywarden> right
[00:13] <movi> question : is it possible to play css-encrypted DVDs in totem using gstreamer?
[00:13] <amason_> kitche: thanks
[00:13] <mnk3ym4n> zzz: that was a VERY helpful bit of advice - thank you.
[00:13] <storywarden> and he has gone back through and reinstalled ubutu at least 4 times now and no luck correcting any problems.
[00:13] <Jordan_U> Benalex, And remember that you want a symbolic link, not a regular link, regular links are not quite the same as shortcuts and can cause interesting problems if you don't understand them
[00:14] <digitori> Jarhyn: hey have you seen this   http://www.groklaw.net/articlebasic.php?story=20070422083715451
[00:14] <Jarhyn> probably
[00:14] <Jordan_U> movi, No, at least not the DVD menu
[00:14] <Odd-rationale> storywarden: See if this helps: http://knowledge76.com/index.php/Windows_-_Add_MS_Windows_to_Your_System76_Machine
[00:14] <storywarden> if he installs ubuntu with the ethernet cable plugged into the pc  then the installation of ubuntu freezes (he's guessing that it's trying to download or check something on the net)... also when he uses live cd's he has no routing at all... can't even telnet to our router.
[00:14] <movi> Jordan_U, lets say i dont care about the menu
[00:14] <Jordan_U> movi, I would just use VLC / Mplayer / gxine
[00:14] <phasegen> storywarden:  two questions, first - did he make the partition bootable?
[00:14] <movi> Jordan_U, what im interested in is, what happens supposedly if i insert a commercial dvd, and in totem click "Play Dics"
[00:15] <movi> Jordan_U, does it just start to play at first movie ?
[00:15] <storywarden> i believe so.  how would i be able to tell?  he can boot between the two partitions.
[00:15] <movi> Jordan_U, or does it flip saying a plugin is missing ?
[00:15] <Jordan_U> storywarden, Has he tried the alternate install CD?
[00:15] <raulh> ok umm now i did
[00:15] <storywarden> yes
[00:15] <phasegen> second - if he did, do you need a menu.list file?
[00:15] <raulh> reboot, and it's downloading thanks odd
[00:15] <storywarden> he's tried ubuntu based and non-ubuntu based.
[00:15] <Benalex> ok.. another question.... under windows, to change current keyboard language I press alt+shift, and to change text direction I press Ctrl+shift.... can this be done under Ubuntu?
[00:15] <storywarden> right now he's downloading a copy of fedora to try but he doesn't want fedora.
[00:15] <Jordan_U> movi, I think the former, but I'm not sure
[00:15] <diafic_> time for bed. snore!
[00:16] <movi> Jordan_U, could you check please?
[00:16] <Odd-rationale> storywarden: Tell him to check the link i gave you ^
[00:16] <Jordan_U> movi, The problem isn't with commercial DVD's specifically, gstreamer can't display DVD menus for non DRM'd DVD's either
[00:16] <storywarden> i'll have him do that.
[00:16] <nantax> how do i turn off the quit and join message in pidgin, i just want to read the messages and not the spam generated by quit/join prompts
[00:16] <storywarden> thanks Odd+rationale... sorry i didn't see your response there
[00:17] <movi> Jordan_U, yes, that much i know. however, ive gotten as far as playing .vob files (although for css encrypted the video is garbled)
[00:17] <movi> Jordan_U, and what i want to know, is that button (Play Disc) only usable under totem-xine
[00:17] <Odd-rationale> storywarden: NP. You should just switch to Ubuntu instead. ;)
[00:17] <phasegen> storywarden:  what games are you playing?
[00:17] <Jarhyn> thanks for the article. I was already aware that windows vista doesn't actually burn true UDF file structures though
[00:17] <storywarden> he keeps telling me that but I am reluctant... I really like my windows (for the most part) but right now it wouldn't matter even if I did change...
[00:18] <Jarhyn> otherwise it would WORK with ubuntu
[00:18] <bkraptor_> so, I don't know if anyone answered this question (as I have been playing with XChat, starting and restarting): does anyone know if the devs will push an updated ati fglrx driver when one that's stable becomes available?
[00:18] <storywarden> he can't get ubuntu to work.
[00:18] <storywarden> I play a lot of the Unreals, Diablos, Harry Potters (i know kids game there)
[00:18] <storywarden> we really try to play mainly first person shooters.
[00:18] <kjp2> grr. I'm trying to install gutsy on my gateway/motion m1200 and the framebuffer is clearly not working
[00:18] <kitche> bkraptor_: package versions don't get updated only if there is a security fix really
[00:18] <storywarden> he tried using WINE to run diablo but it wouldnt' work right.
[00:18] <usser> bkraptor, its unlikely new drivers that are not just security fixes are gonna appear in the repos
[00:18] <Jordan_U> movi, I believe so
[00:18] <phasegen> check and see if they'll run under cedega
[00:19] <Dr_Willis> a lot of games can run better under wine if ya use a no-cd crack on them.. sadly :(
[00:19] <kjp2> does anyone know how to disable the framebuffer?
[00:19] <theblock> quick question: what shal i use to mount NTFS harddrives, when i use ntfsmount it gives me permission denied
[00:19] <storywarden> (my main hang up on windows is that I absolutely adore msOffice and Outlook)
[00:19] <bkraptor_> okay thanks. I think it's odd they won't push an updated driver even if this would probably fix suspend/hibernate for everyone using the proprietary driver (myself included)
[00:19] <movi> Jordan_U, any way i could get a confirmation ?
[00:19] <storywarden> he was having a video issue it wouldn't do full screen.
[00:19] <usser> theblock, try ntfs-3g
[00:19] <Jordan_U> bkraptor, If it's truly stable it may end up in backports, the most recent one seems to cause more bugs for most people than it fixes though
[00:19] <theblock> i have it installed but dont know the command to mount
[00:19] <chimp> I'm trying to install alien on a laptop that has no net access atm, however by trying to download the .deb package it has dependencies and to install them they have dependencies etc. how can i download a package of alien that contains ALL the dependencies?
[00:19]  * Dr_Willis sends storywarden back to the asaylum for more shock theropy.
[00:19] <tomd123> storywarden: look up openoffice.org
[00:19] <theblock> just add it to mounts in etc?
[00:20] <storywarden> lol
[00:20] <usser> storywarden, outlook office? man u weird :(
[00:20] <movi> Jordan_U, because im actually doing this under Gentoo, and its different under Ubuntu, ill keep trying
[00:20] <bkraptor_> Jordan_U: what's backports? :)
[00:20] <storywarden> i have that on my pc right now... It's doable, but I dont' really like it.... *ducks*
[00:20] <Jordan_U> movi, In what way is it different?
[00:20] <Jordan_U> !backports | bkraptor
[00:20] <ubotu> bkraptor: If new updated Ubuntu packages are built for an application, then they go into Ubuntu Backports. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBackports - See also !packaging
[00:20] <storywarden> my hubby's just happy that I allowed him to put ubuntu on my kitchen pc.
[00:20] <isleshocky77> I wast trying to get my svideo out to work with an ati video card.  I tried using envy and now my desktop install is borked.  I can after 7 minutes of loading get to a terminal, and I can load up the live cd and get to the contents of my drive, but is there a way to do a repair install for video?  I tried doing an envy --uninstall-all and it didn't fix anything.
[00:20] <usser> theblock, man it. should be as simple as ntfs-3g /dev/sda* /mnt
[00:20] <bkraptor_> thanks
[00:20] <movi> Jordan_U, eg that the Play Disc button actually works somehow in totem-gstreamer
[00:20] <gerhardlazu> hey guys, just a quickie, would you recommend gutsy over dapper for a clean server install?
[00:21] <sainzeo> evolution keeps crashing on me when attempting to view a groupwise calendar, i get a segmentation fault error - eany suggestions?
[00:21] <usser> storywarden, hubby as in husband?
[00:21] <theblock> usser:
[00:21] <storywarden> yeah
[00:21] <theblock> Error opening partition device: Permission denied
[00:21] <theblock> Failed to mount '/dev/sdb1': Permission denied
[00:21] <Odd-rationale> storywarden: You should be proud of him! He's trying to save you money.
[00:21] <gerhardlazu> so, gutsy over dapper?
[00:21] <storywarden> i know he is
[00:21] <usser> storywarden, wow u keep in tight cage.
[00:21] <humblerodent> I finished programming a Boggle clone for Java class :3
[00:22] <usser> humblerodent, whats a boggle clone?
[00:22] <usser> humblerodent, i finished programming a gui to ffmpeg for java class
[00:22] <emma> Can you put ubuntu on an asus eee pc ?
[00:22] <Jordan_U> emma, Yes
[00:22] <usser> emma, yea
[00:22] <Odd-rationale> emma: Need link?
[00:22] <AdioHyperion> choudesh?
[00:23] <emma> Sure
[00:23] <usser> emma, its gonna be slow pbbly though
[00:23] <storywarden> just right now he's about ready to throw the whole thing out the window because he just wants ubuntu back, willing to say screw the games but we can't get it to reinstall with the ability to browse to the depositories or to our router (which is running ... i can't remember what... the linux for router thing)...
[00:23] <usser> emma, unless its xubuntu or something
[00:23] <emma> xubuntu sounds like a good choice.
[00:23] <Jarhyn> I really need more experience with tarballs...
[00:23]  * usser screw the man save the empire
[00:23] <theblock> hum wont lemme mount
[00:23] <Vicfred> what do i need to install for compile from source?
[00:23] <Odd-rationale> emma: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=611422
[00:23] <emma> Thanks
[00:23] <kitche> !b-e | Vicfred
[00:23] <ubotu> Vicfred: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first)
[00:24] <theblock> brb
[00:24] <Vicfred> thx
[00:24] <usser> Vicfred, start with build-essential
[00:24] <zzz> mnk3ym4n: No problem... (Sorry, I just saw your message.)
[00:24] <sainzeo> evolution keeps crashing on me when attempting to view a groupwise calendar, i get a segmentation fault error - eany suggestions?
[00:24] <bkraptor_> how dangerous is it really to activate backports?
[00:24] <kitche> bkraptor_: umm it's not dangerous at all
[00:25] <Jordan_U> storywarden, So it worked when first installed, then he installed windows on another drive, tried to restore grub but for whatever reason ended up re-installing Ubuntu completely and this time the install left a not fully working system? ( trying to make sure I understand the situation )
[00:25] <bkraptor_> so if I activate backports, do I have to disable normal updates? or is the system smart enough not to play ping-pong with the different versions ?
[00:25] <humblerodent> usser: Boggle is a word game with dice
[00:25] <humblerodent> I find the game boring, personally, but it was fun/challenging to program
[00:25] <Jordan_U> bkraptor, It's smart enough
[00:25] <bkraptor_> thanks
[00:25] <LadyLike> hi..all
[00:25] <usser> humblerodent, nice
[00:25] <LadyLike> i got problem with flash player in gutsy gibbon
[00:26] <kitche> bkraptor_: it uses whatever version is higher pretty much unless you have some odd package that actually decreases when it's updated
[00:26] <bkraptor_> so those updates that appear under Distribution are the normal updates?
[00:26] <Pollman> does anyone know if the pendrivelinux QKUB works with gutsy gibbon
[00:26] <storywarden> it worked when first installed, then he installed xp on the same drive on a 80GB partition.  Then he restored grub, so he can boot between windows and ubuntu but now ubuntu can't route to our router, nor can it route to the depositories for updating packages (the package managers don't work and neither does going through the url's )
[00:26] <LadyLike> i do compile and manual install but still not solve the problem
[00:26] <LadyLike> what should i do?
[00:27] <storywarden> once he found that he couldn't route, he then reinstalled Ubuntu
[00:27] <storywarden> (windows parition was still there)
[00:27] <Odd-rationale> !flash | LadyLike
[00:27] <ubotu> LadyLike: To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[00:27] <LadyLike> thanks
[00:27] <storywarden> right now he's attempting to completely reformat (bye bye xp) and is having the same
[00:27] <kjp2> clear
[00:27] <FangLiger> okay so i've got a new problem, the system seems to lock up at random intervals
[00:27] <Odd-rationale> LadyLike: You should not need to compile flash yourself (unless you want to.)
[00:28] <bkraptor_> btw, does anyone know why VMware Player keeps coming up as an update even after I update it? same version every time
[00:28] <LadyLike> i already install .. but it's not working
[00:28] <LadyLike> so decided to compile
[00:29] <sainzeo> LadyLike: the easiest way, i believe, is to install flash by searching for restricted in Add/Remove
[00:29] <IndyGunFreak> LadyLike: it doesn't really have to be *compiled* per se...
[00:29] <FangLiger> bkraptor: did you try poking it with a stick, that would be the extent of the help i can give you
[00:29] <IndyGunFreak> even if you download it.
[00:29] <nantax> storywarde: try http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic/
[00:29] <Pollman> Nevermind
[00:29] <ata4ix> )
[00:29] <LadyLike> so..it should be working in gutsy..because last time i cannot view the thing that use flash
[00:29] <bkraptor_> FangLiger: no, but thanks for the suggestion :)
[00:29] <sainzeo> evolution keeps crashing on me when attempting to view a groupwise calendar, i get a segmentation fault error - eany suggestions?
[00:30] <LadyLike> ok..
[00:30] <AdioHyperion> i have samba installed and i have shared folders - but i still cant see it on my windows xp computer
[00:30] <AdioHyperion> any ideas
[00:30] <LadyLike> thanks a lot
[00:30] <Odd-rationale> storywarden: I would try this. Install ubuntu and select "Use entire disk" then follow the steps in the wiki I gave you. OR Install XP and use the entire disk, and install ubuntu using the "resize partition" slider.
[00:30] <IndyGunFreak> LadyLike: what file did you download from Adobe's site?
[00:30] <ata4ix> anybody knows where i can get libopenal.so.0 for kubuntu 7.10 32bit?
[00:30] <lwizardl> is there anyway to create a non journalized HFS+ partition using only Linux applications like Gparted etc?
[00:30] <kitche> ata4ix: probably openal
[00:30] <LadyLike> IndyGunFreak:: tar.gz
[00:31] <storywarden> the error we run into when we're trying to reinstall now (using entire disk) is that it freezes during the install because it can't access the network.
[00:31] <altbs4> This may seem premature but I have heard of problems with the onboard intel 82845g graphics in ubuntu I was wondering if there is a fix so I can be ready before I install
[00:31] <Odd-rationale> storywarden: I did the second option on my friend's PC. So far, everything works fine.
[00:31] <IndyGunFreak> LadyLike: ok, extract it, and follow the instructions to install it, its honestly pretty easy
[00:31] <AdioHyperion> choudesh?
[00:31] <LadyLike> ok..thanks to u all
[00:31] <storywarden> is there any reason why ubuntu can route to web pages just fine but can't route to our router or to the depositories?
[00:32] <IndyGunFreak> depositories.. :)
[00:32] <Jordan_U> storywarden, *repositories
[00:32] <storywarden> thanks
[00:32] <ata4ix> kitche, i have amd64 system, but need the libopenal.so.0 32bit for the some pogram
[00:32] <storywarden> at least I didn't say supositories.
[00:32] <ata4ix> where i can get it?
[00:32] <storywarden> (i really can't spell)
[00:32] <IndyGunFreak> lol, true.
[00:32] <Jordan_U> storywarden, Can you pastebin the output of "tracepath google.com" ?
[00:32] <IndyGunFreak> storywarden: or you didn't say, "ubunto" which nnoys me to death
[00:33] <kitche> ata4ix: from openal 32bit package
[00:33] <FangLiger> so anyone have any idea why my system keeps locking up, could it be something to do with my nvidia drivers?
[00:33] <ata4ix> where is based?
[00:33] <storywarden> true... but i do typo a lot.
[00:33] <ata4ix> 32bit package?
[00:33] <ata4ix> i can get it from ineT?
[00:33] <storywarden> um... how would li pastebin?
[00:33] <Jordan_U> IndyGunFreak, Have you read the topic in #ubuntu-offtopic ? ;)
[00:33] <storywarden> speaking of typp
[00:33] <storywarden> s
[00:33] <IndyGunFreak> Jordan_U: not recently, hang on
[00:34] <Odd-rationale> !pastebin | storywarden
[00:34] <ubotu> storywarden: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[00:34] <tony_> I appear invinsible for all my contacts in amsn why? help please
[00:34] <Pollman> Has anyone managed to get Ubuntu 7.1 running inside of windows?
[00:34] <IndyGunFreak> Jordan_U: and that is so true.. but i think ubunto drives me absolutely nutty
[00:34] <storywarden> would I have to be on the troubled pc to get that?
[00:34] <raulh> umm, i just installed/downloaded trmuouse and it crashes as soon as it opens, can anyone help me?
[00:34] <IndyGunFreak> raulh: well thats not a very good description.
[00:35] <raulh> pollman, i have i used WMware
[00:35] <theblock> still cant get anything to mount
[00:35] <theblock> ntfs
[00:35] <raulh> ok, i installed it it goes fullscreen and it closes
[00:35] <raulh> that's all it does :(
[00:35] <Odd-rationale> storywarden: yes
[00:35] <theblock> theblock@theblock-desktop:~$ ntfs-3g /dev/sdb1 /mnt/1
[00:35] <theblock> Error opening partition device: Permission denied
[00:35] <theblock> Failed to mount '/dev/sdb1': Permission denied
[00:35] <Jordan_U> storywarden, I guess output's from both a working computer and the non working one would be nice to compare, but either would be usefull.
[00:35] <IndyGunFreak> raulh: well, thats almost as worthless as your first statement
[00:35] <Pollman> raulh, can you point me to that?
[00:35] <storywarden> um.... well let me see what state the pc is in... brb. (other room)
[00:35] <Jordan_U> !sudo | theblock
[00:35] <ubotu> theblock: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[00:35] <raulh> to vmware?
[00:35] <raulh> it's a virutal pc is that what you ment?
[00:35] <krammer> what kind of software can i use for burning?
[00:35] <Pollman> No
[00:36] <Pollman> Sorry
[00:36] <usser> kramer, k3b
[00:36] <Pollman> I mean has anyone managed to get Ubuntu running from a flash drive inside of windows
[00:36] <raulh> ahh :p lol u mean dual partitioning?
[00:36] <ata4ix> where i can find libopenal.so.0 for 32bit?
[00:36] <theblock> yeah jordan but it still doesnt explain why sdb1 and sdc1 arent mounting
[00:36] <raulh> oh..
[00:36] <adamonline45> Hi all.  I got ndiswrapper installed, and can see my wlan0 in iwconfig, but how do I configure it/connect to an AP?
[00:36] <krammer> thanks i was entering kb3
[00:36] <Jordan_U> Pollman, In a virtual machine?
[00:36] <IndyGunFreak> lol
[00:36] <Pollman> No
[00:36] <FangLiger> Pollman: the only distro i know of that can run embedded inside windows, is Damn small linux
[00:36] <Jordan_U> Pollman, Then how?
[00:36] <raulh> well, if u can get ur partitioner to detect ur flash driver you probably could
[00:37] <raulh> 7.10 detected my ipod witch i mistakenly left in the usb slot
[00:37] <Jordan_U> FangLiger, Pollman But DSL uses a virtual machine to do it
[00:37] <Pollman> pendrivelinux.com had software to run ubuntu 6.10 inside of windows from a flash drive
[00:37] <Odd-rationale> Pollman: Or QEMU puppy
[00:37] <Pollman> yes qemu
[00:37] <storywarden> back - can't do it from the pc with issues, he's got it pretty much non-bootable now with deleting the partitions.
[00:37] <Pollman> odd-rationale, does that work with 7.10?
[00:37] <storywarden> so there's no bootable OS on the HD now.
[00:38] <Jordan_U> Pollman, So were you not saying no to my question when I asked if you wanted Ubuntu to run in a virtual machine?
[00:38] <Pollman> Jorddan_U, yes I don't want a virtual machine
[00:38] <Vicfred> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), are you root? ... why now i need root permision to install? D:
[00:38] <raulh> umm, back to my question, well i went to add/remove programs, and i searched for tremouse the online game, and it downloaded as soon as it finished it said "finished installing tremuous" so i went to applications, games,opened trem, and it goes full screen but black and it just crashes.. anyone know why or a fix???
[00:38] <theblock> oh i gotta disable them in windows?
[00:38] <Odd-rationale> Pollman: You mean boot gutsy in QEMU. I haven't tried it. I was just saying that you can boot puppy in QEMU...
[00:38] <Jordan_U> storywarden, Do you get the same problems when booted from a LiveCD?
[00:38] <storywarden> yup
[00:39] <usser> Vicfred, its in your own interests. or perhaps u want spyware as in windows? :)
[00:39] <storywarden> only with a live cd we can't even route period
[00:39] <digitori> Vicred: you must have a terminal accessing as root for install and or another program like synaptic running twice
[00:39] <storywarden> so we're thoroughly baffled.
[00:39] <Jordan_U> storywarden, Can you access web sites?
[00:39] <FangLiger> hey, i'm running a Geforce 8600gt, would this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24703 affect my machine at all, it's been locking up like that
[00:39] <storywarden> from my pc yes.
[00:39] <storywarden> and when he had windows on his it could too.
[00:39] <digitori> Vicred, close any installers down and open one up again
[00:39] <Jordan_U> storywarden, I mean from the Ubuntu LiveCD
[00:39] <raulh> umm ill just try re-installing it i guess....
[00:39] <Pollman> it works with 6.10
[00:39] <storywarden> not on his pc
[00:40] <Pollman> I just don't want to have to boot from the flash drive everytime
[00:40] <Jordan_U> storywarden, How is his PC connected to the network?
[00:40] <storywarden> ethernet cable.
[00:40] <digitori> calling Vicred, calling Vicred
[00:40] <TehGuy> hey guys i need some help...
[00:40] <TehGuy> i installed ubuntu on my macbook
[00:40] <TehGuy> and the wireless in not working
[00:40] <Pollman> I get the ubuntu boot screen
[00:41] <Jordan_U> storywarden, Can you boot it from a LiveCD and try "sudo ifconfig eth0 && sudo dhclient eth0" ?
[00:41] <Pollman> and then the loading screen
[00:41] <raulh> pollman, dude what u trying to do? make a portable ubuntu linux?
[00:41] <TehGuy> i followed the instructions to install the wireless drivers, is there something i'm missing/
[00:41] <storywarden> i can... lemme go try it... brb.
[00:41] <shadeofgrey> okay so alpha 1 of heron is out can someone please point me to the right repos so i can do a dist-update without downloading the iso?
[00:41] <Pollman> raulh, yeah I have ubuntu bootable on my flash drive
[00:41] <TehGuy> i dont see any wireless setting anywhere.
[00:41] <Pollman> raulh, I just can't make it so I can run it inside of windows
[00:41] <Jordan_U> TehGuy, Did you follow the instructions on wiki.ubuntu.com for your specific model of macbook?
[00:41] <TehGuy> yes
[00:41] <digitori> talk about lving on a knife edge
[00:41] <FangLiger> pollman where'd you get the stuff to make 6.10 run in qemu?
[00:41] <raulh> umm, well vmware makes a virtual machine that u can set where to isntall everything
[00:42] <Pollman> FangLiger, pendrivelinux.com
[00:42] <raulh> it's one best virtual pc's out there that u can install a real os and run it inside windows
[00:42] <TehGuy> i followed the instructions on help.ubuntu.com/community/MacBook
[00:42] <raulh> you should try it
[00:42] <FangLiger> lol wow i'm special
[00:42] <Jordan_U> shadeofgrey, if you don't know how to do that you probably shouldn't be running Heron this early.
[00:42] <FangLiger> and you can run it embedded?
[00:42] <Pollman> I can get the loading screen working
[00:42] <Pollman> but it goes all wacky after that
[00:42] <Pollman> I'll try in graphics safe moode
[00:43] <Pelo> !enter | Pollman
[00:43] <ubotu> Pollman: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[00:43] <shadeofgrey> Jordan_U, im not asking you for a summatioin of my worthiness - all i want is a link to the repos please
[00:43] <raulh> hmmp... well i highly, strongly suggest you use wmware :) it's really good becuse if u gots enough ram u can run two operating system at same time and be able to do mostly everything..
[00:43] <FangLiger> ah well that sounds neat either way, i may be interested in that as well since i'm on a public computer alot without admin privilages
[00:43] <Pelo> !repos | shadeofgrey
[00:43] <ubotu> shadeofgrey: The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[00:44] <Jordan_U> shadeofgrey, Just change gutsy to heron in your soures.list, and be ready to re-install if something goes wrong
[00:44] <Jordan_U> shadeofgrey, I mean to hardy
[00:44] <digitori> shadeofgrey: youll be back
[00:44] <raulh> AFK for a bit
[00:45] <kev_b> hi, can anyone tell me why under system->administration on my Fiesty install I cannot see "login window"? How can I get it back or open it manually?
[00:45]  * shadeofgrey laugfhs... he cant remember the command to open his sources.list file
[00:45] <shadeofgrey> god im rusty
[00:45]  * Pelo is gonna have a hard time keeping hardy herron straight, it will probably come out as horny hard...
[00:45] <Jack_Sparrow> gksudo gedit
[00:45] <eddy> How do I undo in the file browser?  I accidently deleted something.
[00:45] <ata4ix> anybody knows how to compile libopenal.so.0 for 32bit under 64bit system&
[00:45] <jrib> shadeofgrey: /join #ubuntu+1 for help with hardy
[00:45] <digitori> kev_b: do you mean a terminal window?
[00:45]  * FangLiger laughs at Pelo but realizes he would do the samething
[00:45] <Jack_Sparrow> eddy: look in trash
[00:45] <bruenig> eddy, is it in the trash can think?
[00:45] <Pelo> shadeofgrey, if you can't get into the source list on your own , you shoudlnt, be editing it
[00:45] <eddy> its not there
[00:46] <bruenig> eddy, gone
[00:46] <eddy> whatt!!!??
[00:46] <Jordan_U> shadeofgrey, I assume that this is a spare PC that you have absolutely no desire to have actually working any time soon ;)
[00:46] <bruenig> thing*
[00:46] <digitori> kev_b Applications>Accessories>Terminal
[00:46] <Jack_Sparrow> eddy: where you running as sudo or root when you deleted it?
[00:46] <kev_b> digitori: no its a setting windows for the gdm login... gives options like automatically logging in a user
[00:46] <Pollman> Still no luck
[00:46] <AdioHyperion> hello
[00:46] <bruenig> eddy, try not to delete things you don't want to delete, good advice for the future
[00:46] <AdioHyperion> i can access my shared drive on the linux computer with my windows computer - but i cannot edit the files
[00:47] <AdioHyperion> it says access denied
[00:47] <raulh> thats because its diffrent partition
[00:47] <bruenig> !enter | AdioHyperion
[00:47] <ubotu> AdioHyperion: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[00:47] <Jordan_U> eddy, There is no undelete for ext3, if it was a very important text file you can try grepping the entire partition, but otherwise it's just gone
[00:47] <Pelo> AdioHyperion,  you probabaly need to set the proper permissions on the ubuntu side of things
[00:47] <shadeofgrey> screw this.  i really wish you elitist folks would leave your god complexes at the door and just answer the simple questions
[00:47] <bruenig> hmm
[00:47] <Jordan_U> shadeofgrey, I am not trying to be eletist, I am not running hardy yet either
[00:47]  * bruenig wonders where the door is
[00:47] <Jack_Sparrow> shadeofgrey: dont be rude
[00:47] <raulh> shade whats wrtobng
[00:48] <raulh> wrong*-
[00:48] <Pollman> I'm trying something else
[00:48] <AdioHyperion> how can i fix it so i can move files to my linux computer
[00:48] <Pelo> shadeofgrey, ... , have you ever been in #debian ? try to get a question answered there
[00:48] <shadeofgrey> whats the terminal command for ediuting the sources.list file
[00:48]  * Pelo considers showing bruenig the door
[00:48] <Jack_Sparrow> shadeofgrey: I gave it to you
[00:48] <raulh> adio why not just burn a data cd?
[00:48] <Jack_Sparrow> gksudo gedit path and name of file
[00:48] <raulh> shade of greay terminal cmmand for what
[00:48] <AdioHyperion> cause a cd only holds 700mb
[00:48] <Jordan_U> shadeofgrey, sudo vim /etc/apt/sources.list
[00:48]  * bruenig challenges Pelo in a fit of irrational macho glory
[00:48] <esbirililson> disconnect
[00:48] <tuxcrasher> help: ubuntu loads up to end of bootsplash then goes to blank screen, i ran fsck in recovery and got a bunch of errors, now it doesnt boot at all. booted into recovery and it says the fs doesnt have /sbin/init and it dumped me into initramfs... what do i do?
[00:48] <raulh> u looking for music?
[00:48] <kev_b> Any ideas guys? System->Administration->Login Window missing...?
[00:48] <AdioHyperion> and i have 500 gb worth of information
[00:48] <Pelo> AdioHyperion, I'm not very knowledgable on samba but I would expect you need to give the remote user permission to write to the ubuntu hdd
[00:48] <Pollman> Agh the graphics are still messed up
[00:48] <raulh> wtf 500gb?
[00:48] <Jordan_U> shadeofgrey, Or gksudo gedit or sudo nano, whichever editor you prefer
[00:48] <raulh> thats a ALOOT!!
[00:49] <bruenig> shadeofgrey, sudo vim /etc/apt/sources.list
[00:49] <isleshocky77> When I start up my Ubuntu 7.10 Desktop system I get the error "serial8250: too much work for irq10" over and over from 0 -<PHONE_NUMBER>.  I can get to just normal terminal, but I can't get the desktop to start up. Any suggestions for what I should try reinstalling or configuring?
[00:49] <devilhan> any bash expert here?
[00:49] <devilhan> :)
[00:49]  * bruenig chuckles
[00:49] <jrib> devilhan: #bash has the bash experts
[00:49] <raulh> devilhan what type bash help u need
[00:49] <raulh> i know a few
[00:49] <bruenig> devilhan, no one will own up to being an expert for fear of being immodest, you will best serve to just ask
[00:49] <devilhan> I am trying to alias a "find command"
[00:50] <Pelo> isleshocky77,  boot the recovery mode and try reinstaling ubuntu-desktop
[00:50] <bruenig> be best served*
[00:50] <Pollman> Can anyone point me somewhere that has information about ubuntu on a flash drive?
[00:50] <raulh> walks away XD devilhan im so noobie with hash's
[00:50] <jrib> devilhan: you need to be more specific
[00:50] <devilhan> alias answers='find ~/.survey -name 'answers' -exec cat -n {} \;'
[00:50] <raulh> can't help u there >_<
[00:50] <bruenig> devilhan, more specific?
[00:50] <isleshocky77> Pelo: WHat will I lose by doing that?
[00:50] <zdh> Pollman: google? ;p
[00:50] <Jack_Sparrow> cya tomorrow pelo
[00:50] <devilhan> and  i want to put this in ~/.bashrc
[00:50] <Pollman> zdh, tried that :P
[00:50] <jrib> devilhan: get rid of the inner ''
[00:50] <isleshocky77> Pelo: What's the best way to do this? apt-get, dpkg ??
[00:50] <zdh> dammit :p
[00:50] <Pelo> isleshocky77, yo won't loose anything
[00:50] <storywarden> i'm back... was there anything specific we were looking for on the messed up pc?  it gets and ip address, and I can ping the router, i can browse via google, and I can telnet via terminal to the router, but I still can't get to the respositories or actually browse to the router via firefox.  (this is on the livecd for Ubuntu now)
[00:50] <digitori> kev_b: I havent ever seen that on my menu...noly ever seen access to thpse configs in kubuntu menu
[00:51] <Pelo> isleshocky77, sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[00:51] <devilhan> you mean get rid of all the single quotes?
[00:51] <bruenig> devilhan, does that not work or what?
[00:51] <jrib> devilhan: no, the inner ones
[00:51] <eddy> jack_sparrow no i wasnt using root/super user, (was afk sorry) can i get my file back?
[00:51] <devilhan> ok let me try that
[00:51] <raulh> story live cd's don't always work coimpletley for navigation thru the net
[00:51] <eddy> this makes me furious, i should just switch back to windows
[00:51] <kev_b> digitori: its there in my gutsy... its also in the Feisty faqs etc : (
[00:51] <raulh> eddy, do that? linux dosn't suit everyone, sadley.. i love linux :D
[00:51] <eddy> i press the delete key accidently  & my stuff is permanently gone
[00:51] <raulh> wow haha
[00:51] <eddy> this is crazy
[00:52] <raulh> yeah.. no recycle bin.
[00:52] <Templer> anyone here installed vuze on ubuntu
[00:52] <Pelo> eddy, were you in root ?
[00:52] <eddy> no
[00:52] <eddy> and i checked trash
[00:52] <eddy> its not there
[00:52] <raulh> 0_o
[00:52] <isleshocky77> Pelo: Should I do apt-get uninstall ubuntu-desktop first, or do a --reinstall
[00:52] <digitori> not on gnome it isnt...
[00:52] <raulh> usureu whernt in root account?
[00:52] <eddy> im not usiing root
[00:52] <zdh> eddy: either you pressed shift + del than pressed the delete button that pops up
[00:52] <shadeofgrey> thanks jordan.
[00:52] <shadeofgrey> its processing
[00:53] <eddy> there should be an undo feature
[00:53] <shadeofgrey> and its not like this is important
[00:53] <Pollman> I give up
[00:53] <raulh> woah, this is crazyits so late already!
[00:53] <Pelo> isleshocky77, go for reinstall,  my thought is that there is something borked with something in that part of it that keeps you from getting the dektop so if I am right ..
[00:53] <kev_b> digitori: I'd take a screen shot... but please just trust me it is : )
[00:53] <shadeofgrey> if it borks to hell i have the gutsy CD right here
[00:53] <shadeofgrey> all i have to do is reinstall
[00:53] <raulh> eddy, umm you should make sure you don't need anyhting before deleting it man.. what did you delete?
[00:53] <Pollman> Does anyone have info on enabling compiz-fusion on a flash drive install of ubuntu?
[00:53] <digitori> kev_b i trust you it just isnt on my menus never has been
[00:54] <devilhan> jrib, thanks for the answer
[00:54] <shadeofgrey> im interested because theres supposed to be an upgrade to the flgrx ati driver -- i wanna see if it still blows rancid baboon balls
[00:54] <devilhan> that works to some extent
[00:54] <devilhan> :)
[00:54] <cutmerock> hey
[00:54] <eddy> raulh, txt files, obviously i didnt mean to press DEL, i was moving my keyboard
[00:54] <cutmerock> can anybody help me out with Ubuntu?
[00:54] <digitori> kev_b it is on my kde menu though under system settings
[00:54] <cutmerock> i cant get my wireless to work
[00:54] <isleshocky77> Pelo: It has to do with some thing with my video card. I was trying to get my s-video out to work so I started messing with different drivers and envy.  After doing a manual envy driver install this happened.  When I did an envy --uninstall-all I still get the same thing although it said it was successful
[00:54] <Pelo> eddy, you were unlucky,  stuff usualy doesn'T disapaar when you just hit del, they go to the trash. if you had the shift key held down when you hit del you would have had a confirmation screen
[00:54] <raulh> oh.. wow lol
[00:54] <shadeofgrey> if so im deleting ubuntu entirely and not returning to it till i have amac with an nvidia graphoics card
[00:54] <DG19075> shadeofgrey: Do you have a DVD burner? there is a DVD iso of 7.10 available that has much more on it than the CD
[00:54] <tuxcrasher> hey im trying to reinstall ubuntu and the boot cd stops at 'running local boot scripts' help?
[00:54] <raulh> yeah he might have been tpying and hit delete  :D
[00:54] <Pelo> isleshocky77, did you just try reconfigureing x first ?
[00:55] <kev_b> digitori: http://www.simplehelp.net/images/ubuntulogin/ubal01.jpg
[00:55] <kev_b> digitori: just a google image search, not mine
[00:55] <isleshocky77> Pelo: Any direction on doing that?
[00:55] <shadeofgrey> DG19075, nah.  the new driver was  released yesterday
[00:55] <digitori> kev_b its probably because I dont use gdm i use kdm
[00:55] <kev_b> digitori: problem is the KDE one will probably affect KDM
[00:55] <raulh> darnit!!!!!!!
[00:55] <shadeofgrey> with alpha 1 of hardy
[00:55] <kev_b> digitori: ah, that is why
[00:55] <raulh> omg can someone help me on this tremulous game?
[00:55] <shadeofgrey> thats the only reason imm doing this
[00:55] <DG19075> ahh
[00:55] <raulh> i reinstalled it twice..
[00:55] <kev_b> digitori: but I use GDM so I need it : )
[00:55] <raulh> and after i run it it just crashes
[00:55] <aeGIs> Wow...  There is an UbuntuME (Muslim Edition)...  It's like your own flavor of jihad coming at you linux style.
[00:55] <raulh> without any info
[00:55] <digitori> kev_b yeah thats why...hang on see if i can help
[00:56] <IamReck> aeGIs, link me
[00:56] <Pelo> isleshocky77,  again , boot the recovery mode ,  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg  , select the correct driver from the list ( vesa if you donT' find a matching one) when it doubt about the rest just use the default provided or donT' enter anything
[00:56] <KI4IKL_> What is the name of the nonfree codecs like mp3 and wav files in the repos?
[00:56] <aeGIs> I think the graphics card comes disabled too...
[00:56] <IamReck> i need to see that
[00:56] <nano|marek> hi everyone. I can't seem to get any audio-cd-burning tools to work with MP3s. how do I burn an audio-cd from mp3s?
[00:56] <LjL> raulh: you ran it from a terminal i suppose?
[00:56] <jrib> !restricted > ki4ikl_ (read the private message from ubotu)
[00:56] <raulh> no i didn 't
[00:56] <aeGIs> IamReck: http://distrowatch.com/?newsid=04624
[00:56] <raulh> i installed it from add/remove
[00:56] <DG19075> I'm just waiting for the kinks to get worked out of hardy b4 I use it
[00:56] <Pelo> nano|marek,  you need to insatll mp3 support
[00:56] <LjL> raulh: then do, it will probably give you additional info.
[00:56] <Pelo> !mp3 | nano|marek
[00:56] <raulh> ran it from app's/games
[00:56] <ubotu> nano|marek: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[00:56] <cutmerock> Can anybody help me? I installed Ubuntu on my laptop and the wireless is not working, my card is Broadcom 802.11g Network Adapter, can anybody help?
[00:56] <KI4IKL_> thanks jrib
[00:56] <raulh> umm, ok whats command to run an app?
[00:57] <LjL> raulh: most probably "tremulous"
[00:57] <FangLiger> hey Pollman did you see this http://www.pendrivelinux.com/2007/03/26/portable-qemu-persistent-ubuntu-linux/
[00:57] <FangLiger> ?
[00:57] <Pelo> DG19075,  you do realise that hardy is on the first beta right ? with  5 months to go for the officals release ?
[00:57] <IamReck> rofl
[00:57] <raulh> ok i'll try
[00:57] <Pollman> FangLiger, thats the one I was using
[00:57] <raulh> ooooh
[00:57] <DG19075> yup...that's why I wait
[00:57] <cutmerock> Can anybody help me? I installed Ubuntu on my laptop and the wireless is not working, my card is Broadcom 802.11g Network Adapter, can anybody help?
[00:57] <raulh> warmomg cpi;d mpt set given mode (3)
[00:58] <isleshocky77> Pelo: Thanks, that's what I was looking for.
[00:58] <raulh> re shutdown
[00:58] <Pollman> But its using edgy eft not gutsy gibbon
[00:58] <aeGIs> iamfuzz: you like that?  I think they disabled the graphics card to so you can't see or read or hear anything
[00:58] <aeGIs> iamreck: you like that?  I think they disabled the graphics card to so you can't see or read or hear anything
[00:58]  * Pelo usualy waits for a couple of weeks after the official release
[00:58] <FangLiger> ahhhh
[00:58] <LjL> !wifi > cutmerock    (cutmerock, see the private message from Ubotu)
[00:58] <FangLiger> well it looked like it worked with any version
[00:58] <raulh> Ljl: it gave me a warning
[00:58] <Pelo> isleshocky77, the right question gets you the right asnwer
[00:58] <cutmerock> thanks
[00:58] <DG19075> I've had no problems with this Gutsy DVD...Very solid
[00:58] <FangLiger> it just said generic "ubuntu iso"
[00:58] <raulh> LjL it said "Warning:could not load openGLsystem
[00:58] <Pollman> It boots and shows the loading screen, but fails after that
[00:58] <raulh> and could not set given mode
[00:58] <isleshocky77> Pelo: I tried the question before, but no one answered.
[00:59] <Dogfishguzzler> Hi guys, can I squeeze in a quick question about chatx?
[00:59] <lildeb> hello, does anyone have any past experience with kernel compiling??
[00:59] <Pollman> Maybe its something to do with vista
[00:59] <raulh> umm you mean xchat?
[00:59] <Dogfishguzzler> sure lol
[00:59] <Pelo> isleshocky77,  as you may have noticed this is a very busy channel
[00:59] <raulh> 0_o
[00:59] <xoss> good am.. can someone help me.. how do i get ownership to save .html files in /var/www?
[00:59] <raulh> just ask away
[00:59] <IamReck> aeGIs, I just find it hilarious that they have a religious based distro
[00:59] <digitori> who knows how to edit gnome menus?
[00:59] <isleshocky77> Pelo: Yes, that's why I asked again. I appreciate all the people helping a lot.
[00:59] <Dogfishguzzler> How can set the start channel? It always comes here but what I want is #emc
[00:59] <Pelo> xoss,   sudo chmod 755 /var/www
[00:59] <CoasterMaster> digitori, do you want to edit the applications menu?
[00:59] <raulh> go to prefences?
[00:59] <jrib> digitori: right click on the ubuntu icor, edit menu
[01:00] <isleshocky77> Pelo: Yeah, that worked. thanks alot.
[01:00] <raulh> options?
[01:00] <xoss> thanks Pelo
[01:00] <Dogfishguzzler> It's not there raulh
[01:00] <aeGIs> IamReck: Yeah...  well, when you're after world domination why not
[01:00] <IamReck> aeGIs, there is a christian version too
[01:00] <raulh> D: really?!?!?
[01:00] <Pelo> Dogfishguzzler,  in the server list,  edit the server
[01:00] <raulh> well, when you first wrote the servcer name
[01:00] <Dogfishguzzler> ahh
[01:00] <raulh> it asked u
[01:00] <Dogfishguzzler> ok thanks
[01:00] <IamReck> lol too true aeGIs
[01:00] <digitori> jrib cheers
[01:00] <HateX> hey guys, while trying to copy a rar file to another directory i get this error "Error "Too many open files" while copying "/home/nick...FE2003.rar"" what does this mean
[01:00] <HateX> i don't have the ram?
[01:00] <storywarden> the live cd's been able to at least get to our router before, and it wont let us install.
[01:01] <Pelo> HateX, are you copying more then one file ?
[01:01] <isleshocky77> Pelo: Know anything about getting s-video output to a tv on ubuntu 7.10 and a ATI MOBILITY RADEON (M6) 4X AGP and 3D architecture  video card
[01:01] <storywarden> is there anyway to get IRC to work on a live cd?  hubby's up now and at his puter.
[01:01] <raulh> ok, so i run tremulous from terminal, and it said "warning : coul;d not load openGL subsystem, amd could not set given mode
[01:01] <raulh> can anyone help?
[01:01] <HateX> no just 1 rar file
[01:01] <digitori> kev_b try this right click on the ubuntu icon, edit menu as per jrib's answer
[01:01] <lildeb> Is there anyone with kernel compiling experience??
[01:01] <digitori> kev_b you should be able to restore what you need on the menu?
[01:01] <aeGIs> IamReck: Well, that's okay...  Does the Muslim edition electrocute you if you misspell muhammed or violate one of the hadiths online... ;)
[01:01] <Pelo> isleshocky77, not realy, did you look up s-video or your card model in the forum ? www.ubuntuforums.org
[01:01] <renato> how do i create a file system and format a usb disk in raw format?
[01:01] <raulh> try a live CD renato
[01:01] <isleshocky77> Pelo: Yeah I did and went through 10 different threads. Couldn't find anything.
[01:01] <Pelo> !opengl
[01:01] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about opengl - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[01:01] <HateX> Pelo, no just 1 rar file that's about 110 meg
[01:02] <kev_b> digitori: trying now
[01:02] <raulh> i think ubuntu detects nusb storage devices
[01:02] <Dogfishguzzler> I think that did it, lets see :D thanks, it's been years since I did irc.
[01:02] <Pelo> isleshocky77, try in there  http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Feisty
[01:02] <raulh> usb*
[01:02] <jacob> how do i make avi files play under totem?
[01:02] <LjL> raulh, do other 3D (OpenGL) apps/games work? does "glxgears" works at an acceptable speed?
[01:02] <raulh> one sec ill try
[01:02] <jacob> vlc?
[01:02] <xoss> Pelo, chmod 755 also gives me write access to the files in /var/www?
[01:02] <Pelo> raulh, try searching for opengl in synaptic and see if you can install something
[01:02] <shadeofgrey>  looks like ill be a vista puke in a few weeks
[01:02] <Dogfishguzzler> crap
[01:02]  * shadeofgrey sighs
[01:02] <raulh> alrighty i have a raw empty linux
[01:02] <raulh> no updates.,.
[01:02] <aeGIs> IamReck: There is a l ittle USB "Finger Guillotine" that can automatically mutilate you included with every distro...  It can also be controlled remotely by any imam.
[01:02] <aeGIs> :)
[01:03] <Pelo> xoss, it's write access to user,  read exe to the groop and to others
[01:03] <HateX> Pelo, hmm now it worked... i don't know
[01:03] <renato> raulh, i've tryed with backtrack, but nothing happens.... need to do something extra... testdisk says that the disk s good... but i can't alocate the partition
[01:03] <raulh> well i made my ipod linux
[01:03] <raulh> and i used ubuntu
[01:03] <Pelo> HateX, it if works don'T complain , just enjoy
[01:03] <raulh> edgy eft
[01:03] <raulh> and it reformated it just fine
[01:03] <Pelo> !enter ! raulh
[01:03] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about enter ! raulh - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[01:03] <Pelo> what the f ?
[01:03] <caravel> help! gutsy,gnome. Partial menus after disaster caused by alacarte's revert function. Custom submenus were renamed as "alacarte-menu-XX" and uneditable. Moved ~/.config/menu out, half of items came back, all other are now grouped within the Other category. Any idea ?
[01:04] <Pelo> !enter | raulh
[01:04] <ubotu> raulh: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[01:04] <LjL> Pelo: !
[01:04] <raulh> u did a !
[01:04] <HateX> Using ubuntu, is the filesystem subject to fragmentation? if so, where is the defrag utility
[01:04] <lildeb> anyone with experience on compiling the new kernel <IP_ADDRESS>??
[01:04] <tuxcrasher> my ubuntu doesnt boot...it dumps me into a screen with a white underscore... can someone plz help me?
[01:04] <raulh> oh sorry....
[01:04] <kev_b> digitori: sorted now, thanks
[01:04] <digitori> kev_b: cool
[01:04] <Pelo> caravel, check in /home/user/.config/menu , see if you can rename something in there
[01:05] <digitori> kev_b glad i could help
[01:05] <LjL> HateX, ext3 is engineered in a way that makes fragmentation a non-issue under normal circumstances. there is a package called "defrag", but it's at least a decade old, and only recently patched to support ext3, it can definitely be dangerous to use
[01:05] <raulh> ummkay pelo i dont see any opengl programs just a openglad a game,....
[01:05] <Pelo> HateX, ext3 does not need to be defragmented
[01:05] <raulh> any other ideas?
[01:05] <h1st0> test h1st0, h1st0 Read the message from ubotu
[01:05] <Pelo> tuxcrasher, what is your videocard ?
[01:05] <LjL> h1st0, test in #ubuntu-bots please
[01:05] <HateX> Pelo, excellent thank you for your time
[01:05] <Benalex> I am an old Hotmail user, so I have HTTP access to my inbox, can I use it with evolution?
[01:05] <Pelo> raulh, look up the error msg int eh forum
[01:05] <HateX> LjL, thankyou
[01:06] <raulh> ok umm forum?
[01:06] <storywarden> had anyone answered my question about irc on live cd?  My irc crashed
[01:06] <shadeofgrey> can ubuntu handle sli yet?
[01:06] <caravel> Pelo: thanks for your answer. I have renamed ~/.config/menu as ~/.config/menu.test to try restoring the original menu layout. But this does not suffice apparently
[01:06] <Pelo> Benalex,  search in the forum for hotmail, there is a how to on getting it to work in evolution,  it works very well for me
[01:06] <digitori> Benalex: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=200408
[01:06] <h1st0> shadeofgrey: wouldn't it be more of a driver limitation then a distro limitation?
[01:06] <Pelo> caravel,  I thought the /menu was a folder ? there should be backup files in there, with your history all laid out
[01:07] <ConstyXIV> does anyone have two-finger touchpad scrolling working well?
[01:07] <digitori> Benalex: did you get that?
[01:07] <shadeofgrey> h1st0, no...  its kernel dependant
[01:07] <Benalex> Pelo, digitori : I think I am not clear enough....
[01:07] <Benalex> I have HTTP access not POP access....
[01:07] <digitori> Benalex: read this  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=200408
[01:07] <Pelo> Benalex,look in the guide, it is all properly explained
[01:07] <caravel> Pelo: it is a folder, that gets created as you customize your menus. By default (new account) there is no folder.
[01:08] <h1st0> shadeofgrey: I thought the nvidia kernel modules where compiled on driver installation. I don't believe they are packged in.
[01:08]  * Pelo buts out of every single thread he's helping on
[01:08] <raulh> pelo, umm i think i found a solutrion but... uummmmm im not msmart enough to use it can you help me?
[01:08] <Benalex> digitori: I am reading it,,, it is describing how to do it using pop server, which I am not allowed to do since I am a free user
[01:08] <Pelo> raulh, gimme the link
[01:08] <corruptionoflulz> why does the gnome wallpaper manager thing have to suck so much?
[01:08] <caravel> Pelo: and making use of this history (or, building it) is precisely what alacarte seems very bad at doing
[01:08] <raulh> it says You need to edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf and add:
[01:08] <raulh>  Load  "glx"
[01:08] <raulh> under
[01:08] <raulh> Section "Module" but i dont understand what i am sopposed to do
[01:08] <shadeofgrey> h1st0, no your not undersdtanding me.  even if the nvidia driver is up to date, if the kernel doesnt have the rigt module to handle SLI processing nothing will work
[01:09] <digitori> Benalex, have tried following those instructions to see what happens?
[01:09] <Lunar_Lamp_> I want to add a new session to gdm, but I cannot find any entry in "/etc/gdm/Sessions/" so where can I add them?
[01:09] <shadeofgrey> youi'll most likely just defaulty to one card
[01:09] <raulh> http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-288380.html umm here's the link
[01:09] <caravel> Pelo: hence, (re)moving this folder should restore the initial ("designed") setup and categories, right ? well it is not the case
[01:09] <Pelo> raulh,  pastebin your xorg.conf file so I can have a look
[01:09] <Benalex> digitori: mmm thou I know it won;t , but why not giving it a try
[01:09] <raulh> umm how i access them
[01:09] <caravel> Pelo: and this is where I got lost
[01:09] <Pelo> caravel,  you'll need to restart x or at least the gnome pannel
[01:09] <raulh> >_< sorry, i am not to good with terminal or ubuntu.. i just trasnferd over from slax
[01:10] <caravel> Pelo: I did
[01:10] <h1st0> shadeofgrey: ahh gotcha.  You'd probably have to contact the kernel team.
[01:10] <storywarden> ok.... i'm back... i don't forsee my program closing again .... now... about that live cd irc issue... so my husband who knows more what's going on can get on... any tips?  i didn't get a chance to read any before it closed out.
[01:10] <caravel> Pelo: many times ^^
[01:10] <h1st0> shadeofgrey: unless you could make old config on the kernel and see if they added that option.
[01:10] <storywarden> and also as I didn't get a chance to read from before... wht information were we trying to gleen by using the duo ifconfig thingy.  (we got ip address and everythign from router)
[01:10] <shadeofgrey> i just wanted to know if anybody is working on it
[01:10] <shadeofgrey> bedcause my next computer aint a mac
[01:10] <shadeofgrey> running linux on iuntel macs is the biggest pain in the ass
[01:10] <Pelo> caravel,  did you check in the forum ?
[01:10] <shadeofgrey> and i HAVE to have ubuntu full time
[01:10] <zetheroo> can someone help me install this printer?
[01:10] <shadeofgrey> looks like ill be using my amex card very liberally in january
[01:10] <Pelo> !enter | shadeofgrey
[01:10] <ubotu> shadeofgrey: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[01:10] <raulh> pelo how i access my .xconfig files?
[01:11] <Pir8> how can I add multiple workspaces ?
[01:11] <Pir8> s/how/where/
[01:11] <Pelo> raulh gksu gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[01:11] <ConstyXIV> if someone's using two finger (macbook-style) scrolling on their touchpad, could they pastebin their xorg.conf for me?
[01:12] <digitori> Benalex: I wonder if the wonderfull person who took the time to write that tutorial would have known the difference between free and paying hotmail users
[01:12] <macafe> Hi, How I can verify in Shell Script if one $Var is a integer ?
[01:12] <raulh> can anyone help me get my xconf open?
[01:12] <Pelo> raulh gksu gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[01:12] <lupakan_sajalah_> alow
[01:12] <Pelo> raulh, gksu gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[01:12] <Benalex> digitori: I found some good stuff... just gimme sometime
[01:12] <jack_> cool
[01:12] <digitori> Benalex: you got all the time you need its ok dude
[01:13] <jack_> wee
[01:13] <digitori> relax
[01:13] <zdh> you cant read your hotmail in evolution or icedove if you are a free user, they disabled that a long time ago
[01:13] <zetheroo> how do I start a setup.sh file?
[01:13] <caravel> Pelo: yes, and did browse the xdg spec too. sgml is my business expertise, so that does not scare me -- well, spending that much time repairing my OS reminds me another one which I really would like to forget about :)
[01:13] <storywarden> i was wrong.... program crashed again... but error has been taken care of...
[01:13] <bruenig> zetheroo, bash setup.sh
[01:13] <storywarden> if anyone ansewred me I didn't see it.
[01:13] <Pelo> zetheroo,   cd to the forlder   sudo ./setup.sh
[01:13] <bruenig> or sudo ././setup.sh
[01:14] <digitori> Benalex: oh well that blows that
[01:14] <Pelo> storywarden, try asking again, but make it one line and a very breif one
[01:14] <zetheroo> Pelo; tried that ... did not work
[01:14] <bruenig> zetheroo, did not work means what
[01:14] <Benalex> digitori: Oh man , stop calling my nick , I am busy reading :))
[01:14] <Pelo> zetheroo,  cd to the folder,   sudo shmod 777 fliename.sh , then sudo ./filename.sh
[01:14] <zetheroo> bruenig: did not work.. did nothing... no error messages ... nothing
[01:15] <nano|marek> I understand taht k3b has mp3 support in the form of libk3b2-mp3. Is there something similar for any of the Gnome equivalents? which one shoukld I go with
[01:15] <zdh> Benalex: you cant access your hotmail if you are a free user in evolution
[01:15] <digitori> Ok fairs fair dont ask me to help you again
[01:15] <storywarden> jordan_u what were we trying to find out by the sudo command you had me try on the live cd?
[01:15] <bruenig> zetheroo, well then it must have worked if there were no error messages
[01:15] <kanuha> can anyone recommend a photo printing program where I can tell it to print a 5x7 or 8x10 photo of a picture?
[01:15] <raulh> pelo: ok here is my xconf http://pastebin.com/m67d1bb09
[01:15] <Pelo> !mp3 | nano|marek
[01:15] <ubotu> nano|marek: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[01:15] <Pelo> raulh, hld on
[01:15] <corruptionoflulz> nano|marek: i read somewhere that brasero is a decent gnome replacement for k3b
[01:15] <raulh> kk
[01:15] <storywarden> i've had some issues with my chat that I just got fixed and haven't seen anything since I left to go try the command and came back and posted my questions
[01:15] <Spudster> I have a question for anyone who can help me, I am installing an application and get this error: "Error! Your kernel source for kernel 2.6.22-14-server cannot be found at /lib/modules/2.6.22-14-server/build or /lib/modules/2.6.22-14-server/source." I am running Ubuntu 7.10 Server.  I have checked for these directories and they do not exist.  I have tried to apt-get install linux-source but the error persists.  Any ideas?  TIA
[01:15] <ryan8403> what's the best way to securely wipe a failing drive?
[01:15] <zetheroo> Pelo: shmod: command not found
[01:15] <raulh> storywand whats wrong?
[01:15] <corruptionoflulz> nano|marek: although, i don't see why you couldn't just run k3b in gnome...
[01:16]  * bruenig chuckles at the typo
[01:16] <storywarden> kinda long but i'll try to make it fast.
[01:16] <Pelo> zetheroo,  mymistalke  chmod
[01:16] <zetheroo> ok
[01:16] <Jordan_U> storywarden, If the drivers are loaded correctly and you use DHCP it should have connected you to your network
[01:16] <nano|marek> corruptionoflulz: ok thanks for the advice
[01:16] <nano|marek> Pelo: thanks also for the information!
[01:16] <raulh> ooh storywand u can't connect to internet?
[01:16] <Benalex> zdh: Well... digitori has another opinion... and he gave me a good thread from the forum... and I am still trying It
[01:16] <kanuha> can anyone recommend a photo printing program where I can tell it to print a 5x7 or 8x10 photo of a picture?
[01:17] <zetheroo> Pelo: ok did it and tried ./setup.sh again ... nothing.....
[01:17] <storywarden> husband runs ubuntu on his pc as his main os, he decided to create a partition to instsall xp on so we can play windows games on the lan.  he got all the bootloader stuff fixed no problem..  but now he can connect to the internet, but he cannot route to our router, and he cannot route to the repositories, neither by installed os or by live cd.
[01:17] <Jordan_U> storywarden, If it didn't work the output may contain error messages that would clarify what is going wrong
[01:17] <corruptionoflulz> i don't understand why so many people think kde apps can't run in gnome and vice versa....
[01:17] <zetheroo> Pelo: there is an autorun file ... can I access that?
[01:17] <TehGuy> guys... i need help with my wireless.
[01:17] <corruptionoflulz> storywarden: uh oh, i always read that installing windows second is bad news =/
[01:17] <storywarden> jordan_u ... we are connected to the network because we can route to google and such.
[01:17] <raulh> wow thats a big problem isn't it
[01:17] <smooker_> What is the process name for File Browser in Ubuntu 7.10 ?
[01:17] <storywarden> just not to the router's config page or to the repositories.
[01:17] <corruptionoflulz> !ask | TehGuy
[01:17] <ubotu> TehGuy: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[01:18] <Pelo> raulh,  right after  line 18 ,  section "files" end section ,    insert the lines  Section "Module" and 	Load "glx"   and  EndSection
[01:18] <ConstyXIV> smooker_: nautilus
[01:18] <Pelo> zetheroo,  check in here  http://cutlersoftware.com/ubuntuinstall/
[01:18] <Jordan_U> storywarden, Please pastebin the output of "tracepath google.com"
[01:18] <|unjustice|> How does one access an edirol 2.4 bit wav/mp3 recorder? I am running Gutsy
[01:18] <smooker_> thanks
[01:18] <jsoftw> Im not running Gutsy
[01:18] <raulh> wow umm pelo that scrolled oiff my screen can you pm it to me please?
[01:18] <jsoftw> Erm wait I am
[01:18] <jsoftw> doh
[01:18] <TehGuy> i tried several times to install it but its not showing up to me in the network settings window
[01:19] <Pelo> raulh, join me in #pelo
[01:19] <nantax> when i use xchat, my taskbar (clock, network icon, trash icon etc) disappears, what gives?
[01:19] <kelsin> |unjustice|: what mode edirol unit is it?
[01:19] <nantax> but when i quit xchat, it all comes back
[01:19] <mikecables> I'm a super-newbie to Linux... I just installed Ubuntu 7.10, and I'd like to know if there's a way to make it re-use the display drivers that it automatically used upon setup.  I changed to another one from my card Manufacturer (Matrox), but now I want to roll back and don't know how to do it.
[01:19] <|unjustice|> kelsin: r-09 I think
[01:20] <storywarden> corruptionoflulz - well now we've removed windows and are trying to reinstall ubuntu but are still ahving the same trouble.
[01:20] <CoasterMaster> mikecables, did you install the other driver using the 'restricted drivers manager'?
[01:20] <corruptionoflulz> mikecables: there is a reconfigure x command, i forgot what it is.. dpkg something...
[01:20] <froggy__> it's hard to install a game because I have an ati card that needs to be installed and it's hard
[01:20] <storywarden> jordan-u, i'm having him try to do the tracepath... what are we looking for there?  (considering we get to google just fine)
[01:20] <mitch00> i'm trying to set "/schemas/apps/evolution/calendar/display/compress_weekend" to false in gconf-editor but its telling me "Currently pairs and schemas can't be edited. This will be changed in a later version." anyone have any ideas?
[01:20] <h1st0> corruptionoflulz: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[01:20] <mikecables> No it said there were no restricted drivers.  I used the methods outlined at Matrox, and the driver IS faster, but some apps don't work, and I want to roll back to see if they do afterwards.
[01:21] <CoasterMaster> mikecables, ahh, I don't have a matrox video card, so I can't help you with their own drivers, unfortunately
[01:21] <corruptionoflulz> mikecables: you probably could just use sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[01:21] <digitori> Benalex: They are correct hotmail removed thrid party access...ive just tried it
[01:21] <jrib> mitch00: why would you want to do that?  You sure you do not want /apps/...?
[01:21] <underwatercow> how can I find out my motherboard make and model in ubuntu?
[01:21] <digitori> sorry dude
[01:22] <h1st0> underwatercow: you can't
[01:22] <zdh> digitori: told you :)
[01:22] <Benalex> what do you mean with removing third party access?? digitori
[01:22] <PriceChild> underwatercow, read it
[01:22] <corruptionoflulz> mikecables: this would allow you to reconfigure x back to what it was without any drivers, then you can reinstall them yourself... i think.
[01:22] <h1st0> underwatercow: what are you trying to do?
[01:22] <underwatercow> h1st0: that's it
[01:22] <miles8> Anyone know the command to start the fglrx-control ?
[01:22] <h1st0> underwatercow: What type of computer do you have?  Did you build it did someone else?  Is there a model number?
[01:22] <Pelo> miles8,  did you try fglrx-control in the terminal ?
[01:22] <mikecables> If I use that command, will it try to redetect and use what it did initially, because I did a few other things with the graphical version, and the driver never changes or it corrupts the scree.
[01:22] <zdh> Benalex: Third party access means using a program, example evolution to access your mail
[01:23] <mitch00> jrib: i'm trying to make my calnder display 7 columns instead of 6 where sat/sun is displayed as one. are you saying i'm not doing this right?
[01:23] <digitori> Benalex: third party access = evolution, kmail etc...keep trying what your doing someone else says it works
[01:23] <underwatercow>  h1st0: I built it, but I can't remember the make or model, lol
[01:23] <storywarden> also if it makes any difference we can telnet to the router but we can't browse to it via firefox...
[01:23] <jrib> mitch00: go to /apps/... not /schemas/apps/...
[01:23] <underwatercow> h1st0: it shows on the bios splash screen doesn't it?
[01:23] <miles8> Pelo, yes, I would have thought it would be that, but no such command is on the machine, and I did install the package
[01:23] <storywarden> we did the tracepath to google.com and everything went through fine.
[01:23] <Jordan_U> storywarden, Ahh, that is usefull to know
[01:23] <digitori> hotmail evolution http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=608295&highlight=hotmail
[01:23] <onats> anyone here encountering weird behavior on your mouse? my mouse dies randomly...
[01:23] <Jordan_U> storywarden, ( the telnetting part )
[01:23] <h1st0> underwatercow: on some boards.  If not a model number is usually silk screened on the board somewhere.
[01:23] <mitch00> jrib: well that was simple. thanks :)
[01:24] <Benalex> digitori: the author of this thread.. is claiming about simulating pop... so it is not about which client I am using anyway
[01:24] <Pelo> miles8,try  man fgrlx or whatever it is and see if it is listed
[01:24] <zetheroo> nothing is working with this setup.sh file
[01:24] <underwatercow> h1st0: I'll try looking at the mobo... I don't wanna restart
[01:24] <kelsin> |unjustice|: have you tried just plugging it in via usb and seeing if it pops up as a usb drive, so you can grab the mp3's off of it and stuff?
[01:24] <h1st0> underwatercow: typically at the bottom of the board. ex: bottom of your case or left side of the board.
[01:24] <Pelo> zetheroo, got a read me file or an install file in there ? read it
[01:24] <digitori> benalex: it appears that way
[01:24] <miles8> Pelo: Did that
[01:24] <Jordan_U> storywarden, What happens when you try to access the repositories / how are you trying to do it?
[01:24] <h1st0> underwatercow: down by the last pci/isa slot.
[01:24] <zetheroo> Pelo: yes I do
[01:24] <Pelo> zetheroo, get reading
[01:24] <zetheroo> Pelo: I have ... duh
[01:25] <nantax> when i use xchat, my taskbar (clock, network icon, trash icon etc) disappears, what gives? when i quit xchat, it all comes back
[01:25] <h1st0> underwatercow: if not a restart may be in order where it will show on the post screen prior tot he bios loading usually.
[01:25] <rainwalker> when I launch VLC through the normal menus, it shows up as a separate task from my VLC launcher in AWN, why?
[01:25] <miles8> Pelo: Maybe the package is messed up
[01:25] <Benalex> well.. but I am stuck here with something digitori , opening this config files leads to an empty file!!
[01:25] <Pelo> miles8, also check in the forum www.ubuntuforums.org
[01:25] <digitori> Benalex: One moment please
[01:26] <zetheroo> Pelo : http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/46646/
[01:26] <condon> Can anyone tell me what software to use to put either an MPEG2 or AVI file onto a dvd (to play in a standard dvd player)?
[01:26] <corruptionoflulz> nantax: if noone is answering, it's more likely than not that it's simply that nobody knows why, i suggest trying the forums a bit.
[01:26] <zdh> rainwalker: i think its some kind of taskbar, showing what you are running atm ;p
[01:26] <Benalex> digitori: its working
[01:26] <Pelo> zetheroo, hold on
[01:26] <thinman1189> !open office
[01:26] <Benalex> 100% percent working... I am sooOOOOooo HappY... I Love My UbUnTu :))
[01:26] <zetheroo> Pelo: thanks
[01:26] <storywarden> jordan_u - he's gone to http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/ (he can browse through to http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ but when he tries to click on dists it says "waiting" and then times out).
[01:26] <corruptionoflulz> condon: i think devede(something like that) should work fine.
[01:26] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about open office - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[01:26] <smooker_> Someone help, i cant build Alsa drivers for my HDAudio
[01:26] <Pelo> what do you need to know about OOo ?
[01:26] <rainwalker> zdh: I know that, but when I launch firefox or a terminal through the menus, the arrow appears under it's launcher in AWN rather treating it like a separate task
[01:26] <corruptionoflulz> condon: wait, isn't mpeg2 dvd format??
[01:27] <condon> Thanks corrupt
[01:27] <|unjustice|> Anyone know how to get a roland edirol mp3/wav recorder to input data in ubuntu gutsy?
[01:27] <condon> I thought, using K3B, but it says...hold on a sec
[01:27] <thinman1189> !openoffice
[01:27] <ubotu> a free and open source office suite, including word processor, spreadsheet, presentation, vector drawing and database components.  To install: "sudo apt-get install openoffice.org". User help available in #users.openoffice.org
[01:27] <corruptionoflulz> condon: also, if you type just the first few letters of my name, then hit tab, it'll auto complete
[01:27] <chimp> How can I download a .deb package that contains all the dependencies (i have an offline laptop i need to install stuff on)
[01:27] <Benalex> digitori: Thanks for your help... I really appreciate that
[01:27] <zdh> rainwalker: that sounds rather wierd, still i dont use awn anymore
[01:27] <LjL> !offline | chimp, you can't but
[01:27] <ubotu> chimp, you can't but: If you need to download Ubuntu packages using another machine or OS, http://apt.byethost14.com/ may help you with determining which dependencies to fetch and calculating download sizes
[01:27] <rainwalker> zdh: what do you use?
[01:27] <homeskillit> I get this error when booting up
[01:27] <homeskillit> [   15.663037] PCI: Cannot allocate resource region 7 of bridge 0000:00:04.0
[01:28] <smooker_> Someone help, i cant build Alsa drivers for my HDAudio please
[01:28] <mikecables> Ok, thanks, and I'll try it.  I'll let you know if it worked.  thanks again.
[01:28] <condon> corruptionoflulz: Thanks man, always wondered how people did that (sorry, completely new to irc
[01:28] <Jordan_U> chimp, LjL There is an easier / more reliable way
[01:28] <chimp> there is?
[01:28] <Pelo> zetheroo, try the line  ./python setup.sh
[01:28] <zdh> rainwalker: nothing atm, still trying to figure out how to get the engage dock standalone to work ;p
[01:28] <chimp> Its been paining me atm
[01:28] <chimp> What is this easier, more reliable way?
[01:28] <chimp> And cheers for the help
[01:28] <rainwalker> zdh: engage?
[01:29] <corruptionoflulz> condon: lol, np.. let me know if devede works, i'd also like to know.
[01:29] <zetheroo> Pelo: bash: ./python: No such file or directory
[01:29] <Jordan_U> chimp, LjL On the machine that the packages need to be installed to ( the one without internet ) open synaptic, check the package you want to install, then go to file -> Generate package download script
[01:29] <Pelo> zetheroo, sudo setup.sh
[01:29] <h1st0> chimp: what are you trying to get working?
[01:29] <Pelo> zetheroo,  waht is this anyway ?
[01:29] <zetheroo> Pelo: sudo: setup.sh: command not found
[01:29] <chimp> Well im actually trying to get alien, in order to install some rpm packages for SDL_mixer
[01:29] <zetheroo> Pelo: my printer driver
[01:29] <LjL> Jordan_U: nice, script is linux-only i suppose? (don't have synaptic)
[01:30] <zetheroo> Pelo: for Linux
[01:30] <chimp> thanks jordan
[01:30] <Pelo> zetheroo, try  sudo run setup.sh
[01:30] <Jordan_U> chimp, You can then put that script on a removable drive of some sort and run it on a machine with internet access and it will download all of the needed .debs to the current directory you are in when you run the script
[01:30] <storywarden> when he uses a packagemanager when he triest to update/refresh the repositories it says it's downloading 17 of 18 and hangs there forever (no error) and when he clicks the error to view the dropdown for status everything is failing and the path doesn't look quite right.
[01:30] <chimp> man that it cool
[01:30] <zdh> rainwalker: http://sathyasays.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/10/dl_dektop.JPG
[01:30] <chimp> I knew there must be an easy way
[01:30] <zetheroo> Pelo: bash: run: command not found
[01:31] <kelsin> chimp: is the libsdl_mixer1.2 package on ubuntu not good for some reason?
[01:31] <Jordan_U> chimp, If it's a windows machine just look at the URL's in the script ( The script is just "wget -c <URL> a bunch of times )
[01:31] <rainwalker> zdh: what's so great about it?
[01:31] <h1st0> chimp: are you sure the packages aren't in apt?
[01:31] <Pelo> zetheroo, cd to the folder where the setup.sh file is ,  then type  sudo sh setup.sh
[01:31] <chimp> yes they are
[01:31] <chimp> but i didnt have net access
[01:31] <chimp> hence i had to download them off another puter, transfer them accross etc.
[01:32] <kelsin> ok, well I would sugge3st to use this script to download the ubuntu sdl_mixer package,s not alien to install rpm's
[01:32] <chimp> Hence i can now skip the rpm step because of jordans suggestion
[01:32] <chimp> aces
[01:32] <chimp> cheers :)
[01:32] <kelsin> chimp: ok good :")
[01:32] <h1st0> chimp: well you want just he debs then.  No need to download alien then download the rpms.
[01:32] <zetheroo> Pelo.... sorry nothing
[01:32] <Pelo> zetheroo, just try sh setup.sh
[01:32] <LjL> !no offline is <reply> If you need to download Ubuntu packages using another machine or OS, check the desired packages in Synaptic and select File > Generate package download script. Alternatively, try http://apt.byethost14.com/
[01:32] <ubotu> I'll remember that LjL
[01:32] <xeer> when using synaptic how can i switch it from 'install from cd' to 'install from internet'
[01:32] <chimp> Yep h1st0, the rpms was just the original problem
[01:32] <zdh> rainwalker: well, i tried it with another distro and it runs more smooth than awm
[01:33] <Pelo> zetheroo,  you do know hat linuxis case sensitive so if the file is Setup.sh don'T type setup.sh
[01:33] <storywarden> jordan_u:  if i click on the arrow to expand, I see that the only download (i had pressed "reload") that passed was the gpg keys all the rest say failed.
[01:33] <storywarden>  then i cancel and it brings up a window with the correct URL (the one you can get it), saying it couldn't not download all suppository indexes.  (specifically in his words what happens)
[01:33] <zetheroo> Pelo... thanks for your help .. but nothing still ... and I am useing case sensitive letters
[01:33] <TehGuy> oh, whoops
[01:33] <h1st0> Anyone know anything about using the split option in screen.  I'm trying to split now between the two windows I have.  I have irssi in the top and nothing in the bottom?
[01:34] <TehGuy> i zoomed in for some reason in ubuntu
[01:34] <markybob> does hardy installer support encrypted root partition yet?
[01:34] <TehGuy> on the desktop or something
[01:34] <Pelo> zetheroo, you did change the folder to the cd right ?
[01:34] <TehGuy> how do i zoom out>
[01:34] <mikecables> corruptionflulz: Would you mind giving me that command again?  I didn't have my chat log on, and I couldn't paste it after copying it from the screen.
[01:34] <xeer> when using synaptic how can i switch it from 'install from cd' to 'install from internet'?
[01:34] <emma> suddenly my sound isn't working unexpectedly.
[01:34] <jack_> hmm
[01:34] <sunilonln> hi, i'm looking for a utility that can do a batch time offset on jpeg exif data
[01:35] <jack_> this is interesting
[01:35] <SmoothOp> question
[01:35] <SmoothOp> i'm going to dual boot
[01:35] <zetheroo> Pelo: I have it on CD and on my Desktop... and I have been trying every possibility on both locations
[01:35] <onats> !mouse
[01:35] <ubotu> Enabling extra mouse buttons: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ManyButtonsMouseHowto  - Enabling serial mouse: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SerialMouseHowto
[01:35] <SmoothOp> install windows or linux first
[01:35] <emma> !sound
[01:35] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[01:35] <digitori> Benalex: you there?
[01:35] <LjL> sunilonln, i suspect you won't find one... however, it's probably not too difficult to write a shell script that does it, using some console exif editor
[01:35] <xeer> when using synaptic how can i switch it from 'install from cd' to 'install from internet'?
[01:35] <jack_> linux first
[01:35] <jack_> it'll work
[01:35] <jack_> then you'll be happy
[01:35] <jack_> and forget all about windows
[01:36] <omega_> how do u turn off tap to click in ubuntu for trackpads?
[01:36] <sunilonln> LjL: okay; there are a bunch for windows so i figured someone has made a gui
[01:36] <Pelo> zetheroo, what I mean is , the line in the terminal you much change to the correct folder to you can run the file ,   start a fresh  terminal,   type cd and then drag the folder with the setup.sh file in it to the terminal, then hit enter,
[01:36] <Jordan_U> !synaptics | omega_
[01:36] <ubotu> omega_: For a comprehensive Synaptics Touchpad guide, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticsTouchpad
[01:36] <jack_> omega: System > preferences > mouse
[01:36] <LjL> sunilonln, "exiv2" specifically boasts about time changes, have a look
[01:36] <digitori> Benalex: Micros**t require money for webdav access, we could have saved ourself some pain.   Im switching my hotmail to something else
[01:37] <zetheroo> Pelo... I have been doing all the command in the Cd and in the Desktop area
[01:37] <digitori> like a secure encrypted pop service
[01:37] <omega_> jack, one sec
[01:37] <neur1> conky works in gnome, but not in open-box / gnome. says it can't load the font: arial what line do I add to get it working?
[01:37] <Pelo> zetheroo, I give up then
[01:37] <zdh> digitori: dosent gmail support third party programs?
[01:37] <PanzerMKZ_> there is a bot to control the flood
[01:37] <xeer> when using synaptic how can i switch it from 'install from cd' to 'install from internet'?
[01:37] <PanzerMKZ_> nice
[01:37] <zetheroo> Pelo.. ok... no worries..... thanks for trying
[01:37] <omega_> jack, not there
[01:37] <digitori> zdh: you warned us about hotmail didnt you?
[01:37] <mikecables> Can someone give me, once more, that linux command which rolls back a video driver to original?
[01:37] <storywarden> jordan_u:  so he's using web and synaptic to try to reach the repositories
[01:38] <alyxander> hey guys
[01:38] <zdh> digitori: yeah i know, so ill look into this matter myself ^^
[01:38] <Pelo> xeer,  in the synaptic menu,  look for repositories,   click, in the first taab , unchekc the cd
[01:38] <digitori> zdh: yeah possibly will check it out...i dont really need hotmail or gmail etc ive got a secure encrypted service anyway...err you were right dude
[01:39] <vn> hi, I'm trying to setup compiz (I'm not sure if I use fglrx or not) and I followed a tutorial, at the end, I tried to log in after a reboot and it did nothing for 10s and then I have a black screen and it comes back to the login screen...what may be the cause?
[01:39] <kelsin> h1st0: hit Ctrl-A then Ctrl-I to switch to that lower empty window, then you can use normal screen commands to select a window for that "region"
[01:39] <Pelo> vn, compiz is already instaled in gutsy and enable if your hardware can handle it
[01:39] <zdh> digitori: i know, i tried the hotmail with thunderbird without success, then googled it to find out microcock dosent like their free users ;p
[01:39] <digitori> Benalex: Do yourself a favour and switch from hotmail...its suggested gmail may accept third party programs like eveolution.
[01:39] <kelsin> Benalex: digitori yeah gmail supports normal pop and imap access
[01:40] <vn> Pelo: I used to have beryl perfectly in Edgy..why not in Gutsy?
[01:40] <digitori> zdh: it was one of those things i had to see for myself...probably cause it was microsoft
[01:40] <vn> maybe I have something to configure in xorg.conf or...?
[01:40] <Pelo> vn, beryl does not exist anymore, it is merged back with compiz into compiz-fusion
[01:40] <cristhian>  i need to open winrar files. any suggestion ?
[01:40] <zdh> digitori: hehe :)
[01:40] <thinman1189> digitori: I remember there being a plugin for thunderbird to allow msn (free) accounts to work, I don't know if it still works or is compatible with the linux version of thunderbird.
[01:40] <digitori> Benalex: you lost out there in cyberspace...you aint saying much?
[01:40] <LjL> !rar > cristhian    (cristhian, see the private message from Ubotu)
[01:40] <digitori> kelsin: thanx
[01:40] <Pelo> vn, and compiz-fusion is already part of the gutsy default isntall
[01:40] <dmb> hmm
[01:40] <theblock_> is there a way to set svideo out for a tv monitor?
[01:40] <dmb> gtk-visual boy crashes
[01:40] <dmb> the one that is included in ubuntu
[01:41] <vn> Pelo: hehe I do know, just it was called beryl :p  and yea I understood about the default install
[01:41] <Benalex> digitori: kelsin : I have a gmail account, but I still like hotmail, because its my first email since 15 years
[01:41] <digitori> thinman1189:  i just got a message from hotmail servers that they want to empty my pockets.
[01:41] <chimp> Jordan, got my sound working, thanks man that was paining me for quite a while, i knew there must be an easy way to sort that out, otherwise ubuntu would be farrr to dependent on internet access to function
[01:41] <vn> I have an ATI card, should I use fglrx?
[01:41] <Benalex> digitori: look at channel log... I said it works :)
[01:41] <storywarden> jordan_u: any thoughts on the routing issue?
[01:41] <digitori> :Benalex: its your choice, you have that right dude.
[01:41] <emma> why would my sound just stop working? also totem wont work anymore?
[01:41] <Tech-Mike> sup peeps, why when i go into 'gnome-session-properties' and try to add awn my settings dont save
[01:42] <digitori> Benalex: should it have been smtp rather than smtpd?
[01:42] <Pelo> vn,  boot the recovery mode ,  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg  then redetect your card and when indoubt leave the default answer to questions,  boot back your desktop and then goto , menu > system > prefs> appearance last tab for the desktop effect ( compiz-fusion) for further help on this ask in #compiz-fusion
[01:42] <h1st0> kelsin: do you know how to grow a window?  I've tried C^a + but its not working
[01:42] <Jordan_U> storywarden, It's bizarre, I can't think of any good reason for that to happen :s
[01:42] <thinman1189> digitori: how so and why?
[01:42] <Benalex> digitori: besides gmail web interface insisting to use conversation technique which I don;t like
[01:43] <homeskillit> [   16.221318] PCI: Cannot allocate resource region 8 of bridge 0000:00:05.0     does anyone know what that is?
[01:43] <SmoothOp> vn: buy an nvidia
[01:43] <digitori> Benalex: lol you got it to work....Ive got a problem with it.
[01:43] <condon> corruptionoflulz: seems to be working, will let you know how it turns out.
[01:43] <vn> Pelo: ok, thanks, I'm doing that
[01:43] <Pelo> homeskillit,  do a forum search fo rthe error msg  www.ubuntuforums.org
[01:43] <jrib> Tech-Mike: is there any output when you run: find ~/.local ~/.config/ ! -user $USER
[01:43] <Benalex> digitori: no, I missed to install hotway pack
[01:43] <corruptionoflulz> condon: cool.
[01:43] <digitori> I think I will stick to my service providers secure encrypted pop and smtp
[01:43] <cornell> Howdy...  I'm trying to setup an ldap server that my workstations (linux and windows) and samba can use for authentication...  I'm using openLDAP.  I can't seem to get a handle on just what I have to do to create a user.  I find lots of documents discussing the nuts and bolts of ldap, about attributes and values, and nothing that says that a user is set up this way, with these attributes.  I've installed phpldapadmin, which seems to b
[01:43] <digitori> ah hotway
[01:43] <adamonline45> does anyone know how to get my wireless to connect to an access point?
[01:44] <Benalex> digitori: but i still can see junk folder... anyway this is fair enough for me
[01:44] <storywarden> jordan_u:  do you think it possible that the router is perhaps being stupid and blocking a portion of the connection?
[01:44] <vn> should I use framebuffer?
[01:44] <cornell> (blimey, that was long.... )
[01:44] <digitori> Benalex: cool im happy your problem  is sorted
[01:44] <storywarden> we found another site he couldn't get to (dd-wrt.com - the firmware we're using on the router)
[01:44] <Benalex> digitori: I really appreciate you help , what problem do you have?
[01:44] <zdh> digitori: ok gmail works with thunderbird
[01:44] <Pelo> cornell,  long and possibly out of the reach of this channel,  #samba #networking or ##linux might be more help
[01:45] <iwizzard> Annyone using gpodder? can you subscribe to http://reason.tv/rss/ (the video podcast) ?
[01:45] <kelsin> h1st0: you can do Ctrl-A : then type "resize +10" to grow by 10, and probably bind that to a key
[01:45] <Jordan_U> storywarden, I don't see why it would only apply to that one machine running Ubuntu, but in the absence of any other good explanation anything is possible
[01:45] <kelsin> h1st0: don't know if that's bound by default
[01:45] <Pelo> iwizzard, you want a ban ?
[01:45] <kakoonia> hey, i installed the latest alsa driver, and now i cant hear a thing, i changed the default of alsa mixer (mute), what could be the problem?
[01:45] <digitori> Benalex: I worked my way through the instructions for hotway etc but to no avail
[01:45] <cornell> K, thought I'd start here, thanks Pelo.
[01:45] <h1st0> kelsin: ty thank you.
[01:45] <Pelo> !sound | kakoonia
[01:45] <ubotu> kakoonia: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[01:46] <h1st0> kelsin: aparently its default in gentoo but not ubuntu
[01:46] <digitori> zdh: I think I may take up gmail....its one more step away from MS, even if its just for my junk sign ups etc
[01:46] <Benalex> digitori: double check email settings in evolution
[01:46] <mikecables> corruptionoflulz: Would you mind giving me that Linux command, once again, to roll back my video drivers?
[01:46] <iwizzard> Pelo: what rule did I break?
[01:46] <digitori> Benalex: ok I wanna see this work anyhow
[01:46] <kelsin> h1st0: makes sense, a lot of gentoo's default settings are nice
[01:46] <iwizzard> having a problem, cant subscibe to a spesific rss feed
[01:47] <zdh> digitori: its really easy lol, thunderbird even have a profile ready named gmail :p all you need to do is enabled pop in your gmail profile
[01:47] <Pelo> iwizzard, looked suspiciously like spamming, if you have a reason for posting htat link I suggest you state it along with the request
[01:47] <h1st0> kelsin: yeah default in there according to the howto was C^a + increased by 3 lines
[01:47] <froggy__> Warning: Could not find configuration file
[01:47] <froggy__> Please copy configuration file template to /etc/X11
[01:47] <Benalex> digitori: is there an error message or something?
[01:47] <cornell> Pelo:  I'd say  "I understand" but apparently, I don't understand how to do that ;-(
[01:47] <Pelo> cornell, donT' worry about it
[01:47] <Tech-Mike>  jrib find ~/.local ~/.config/ ! -user $USER
[01:47] <Tech-Mike> oops
[01:47] <cornell> K
[01:48] <htmldotcom> Im back
[01:48] <Tech-Mike> jrib /home/tech-mike/.config/autostart
[01:48] <htmldotcom> anyone there who was helping my out before?
[01:48] <digitori> Benalex: all settings correct
[01:48] <froggy__> I don't know what do do I am trying to install my ati and I am following instructions from https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI#head-02330ccb580b6a9411d32bf617cc5a82116ba6b9
[01:48] <froggy__> and I get an error from terminal when I type sudo aticonfig --initial
[01:49] <jrib> Tech-Mike: yes, you need to fix that.  Make sure you do not run gui apps with sudo.  To fix this, as your user, do: sudo chown -R $USER: ~/.config
[01:49] <miles8> Pelo: My Graphics problems have gone away by creating a new user, so its something with my old profile..oddly enough
[01:49] <Benalex> digitori: tell me ... can you access your hotmail account from outlook??... this option is not available for new accounts?
[01:49] <froggy__> I get a Could not find configuration file please copy configuration file template to /etc/x11
[01:49] <digitori> Benalex: I wouldnt use outlook if i was paid short of a thousand bucks
[01:50] <Pelo> miles8, that seems very likely,  possibly someting in your /home fiolder saved as a setting
[01:50] <Tech-Mike> why is it like that in the first place - i didnt have that prob with 7.04...i dont think
[01:50] <Pelo> froggy__, what app is this ?
[01:50] <digitori> Benalex: thanx, im gonna stick with my secure provider
[01:50] <corruptionoflulz> mikecables: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[01:50] <froggy__> um.. app...
[01:50] <corruptionoflulz> mikecables: just select all the defaults, and that should bring you back to the defaults, with no restricted drivers.
[01:50] <miles8> Pelo: Yup, now I have to decide what is faster, figure it out or just stick with a new profile, I could copy over my firefox profile, thats really most of it when I think about it
[01:50] <digitori> Benalex: its quite amuzing, I helped you and cant get it myself lol
[01:50] <mikecables> Thanks alot.  I appreciate it.
[01:51] <jrib> Tech-Mike: usually due to gui apps being run as sudo
[01:51] <froggy__> sudo aticonfig
[01:51] <froggy__> ?
[01:51] <sunilonln> LjL: thanks, exiv2 works beautifully
[01:51] <jrib> Tech-Mike: (you are not supposed to do that)
[01:51] <Benalex> digitori: What I am trying to say is HTTP access to hotmail account is not for everyone... may be your settings is fine.. but ur account is not http enabled
[01:51] <IndyGunFreak> !gksudo
[01:51] <ubotu> If you need to run graphical applications as root, use « gksudo », as it will set up the environment more appropriately. Never just use "sudo"! (See http://psychocats.net/ubuntu/graphicalsudo to know why)
[01:51] <Pelo> miles8, just copy the stuff over that you need, and you'll still be able to try to figure out the problem at your leasure if you keep the old profile around
[01:52] <digitori> hyper text transport protocol is used
[01:52] <froggy__> Pelo, I'm trying to get my ati card working... I need to have 3d graphics and stuff for a game
[01:52] <IndyGunFreak> !ati | froggy__
[01:52] <ubotu> froggy__: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[01:52] <digitori> or correctly transfer protocol
[01:52] <Pelo> froggy__, doesn't the ati card work with afglx or someting ?
[01:53] <mikeooo> how do i enable direct rendering intel x3100
[01:53] <mikeooo> glxgears gets like 1fps right now
[01:53] <froggy__> Ubuto, I am there
[01:53] <digitori> froggy: wow you still trying that dude...you got those marbles of steel dude
[01:53] <froggy__> that's where I am getting the error
[01:53] <Fezzler> Is there a Ubuntu program that can edit MPEG4 video?
[01:53] <crdlb> mikeooo: pastebin your /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[01:53] <Pelo> froggy__, ubotu is a bot
[01:53] <htmldotcom> oh, curses
[01:53] <h1st0> mikeooo: if glxgears is working then direct rendering should be.
[01:53] <ryna> Whenever I start counter-strike source all it does is shows the picture of the two police officers and then it crashes. please help
[01:53] <froggy__> afgix? it's a radeon express 200
[01:53] <Pelo> Fezzler, try avidemux
[01:53] <h1st0> mikeooo: try glxinfo | grep render
[01:54] <froggy__> still trying
[01:54] <Pelo> froggy__, just ignomre me
[01:54] <Tech-Mike> jrib yes but somtimes it is easier to move things around with sudo nautilus :-P
[01:54] <froggy__> I'm not ignoring
[01:54] <jrib> Tech-Mike: gksudo nautilus
[01:54] <mikeooo> direct rendering: No (If you want to find out why, try setting LIBGL_DEBUG=verbose) OpenGL renderer string: Mesa GLX Indirect
[01:54] <h1st0> ryna: did you install the tahoma.ttf font?
[01:54] <cythrawll> ok I have an old pos laptop in which I have ubuntu 7.10 installed
[01:54] <h1st0> mikeooo: alright you'll need proper drivers for your card
[01:55] <cythrawll> I don't get a pretty grub menu on startup
[01:55] <mikeooo> where can i get them?
[01:55] <IndyGunFreak> froggy__: what step are you getting hung up on?
[01:55] <vn> how can I change my keyboard layout used by X's login screen?
[01:55] <h1st0> nvidia mikeooo, mikeooo Read the message from ubotu.
[01:55] <vn> I can't do my "é"
[01:55] <cythrawll> inf act I don't get anything until the login menu pops up
[01:55] <cythrawll> any ideas?
[01:55] <mikeooo> its intel gma
[01:55] <mikeooo> i thought those were open source and included
[01:55] <mikeooo> gma 965
[01:55] <ryna> h1st0, no i didnt, how do i do that?
[01:55] <crdlb> mikeooo: please pastebin your /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[01:55] <Pelo> cythrawll,  is ubuntu the only os on it ?
[01:55] <crdlb> !pastebin
[01:55] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[01:55] <cythrawll> Pelo, yes
[01:56] <IndyGunFreak> froggy__: where are you getting stuck?
[01:56] <h1st0> ryna: you need to get it off of your windows install and put it in /home/ryna/.wine/drive_c/windows/fonts/
[01:56] <Pelo> cythrawll,  then hit the esc key right after the bios stuff is done and you'll get the menu
[01:56] <h1st0> ryna: the better option would be to follow the directions on wine's appdb
[01:56] <ryna> h1st0, k thanks man i appreciate it.
[01:56] <Tech-Mike> jrib when runnin that command u gave i get 'chown: missing operand after 'tech-Mike:~/.config'
[01:56] <froggy__> Indy, I'm getting stuck at 'sudo aticonfig --initial'
[01:56] <cythrawll> Pelo, what about the ubuntu load screen?
[01:56] <h1st0> appdb ryna, ryna Read the message from ubotu.
[01:56] <Pelo> cythrawll, dont, know about that
[01:56] <cythrawll> like the lil progress bar while it boots?
[01:57] <cythrawll> it's just straigt not there
[01:57] <jrib> Tech-Mike: you forgot a space
[01:57] <Pelo> cythrawll, do you realy need it ?
[01:57] <adamonline45> what does it mean when a package says it cannot be authenticated?
[01:57] <cythrawll> I wouldn't but the person who is using it will :)
[01:57] <IndyGunFreak> froggy__: ok, whats it doing... what error.
[01:57] <SpeakerMania> What is the bets free flash suites? I am looking to amke a flash layout for my web site.
[01:57] <froggy__> Indy, it is after I type depmod -a then I type sudo aticonfig --initial
[01:57] <cythrawll> she'll all be like: wtf my computer's  broken
[01:57] <Pelo> adamonline45, usualy it's a package from a third party repos, if you know the repos and put it in yourself, donT' worry about it
[01:57]  * digitori is focused on froggy and IndyGunFreak
[01:57] <mikeooo> crdlb http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/46648/
[01:57] <ryna> h1st0, i didnt get a message from, ubotu
[01:57] <Tech-Mike> oops
[01:58] <nalpha> anyone success install CalemEAM on Ubuntu 7.10?
[01:58] <froggy__> indy, it says vWarning: Could not find configuration file
[01:58] <IndyGunFreak> froggy__: are you using gutsy?
[01:58] <h1st0> ryna: yeah i'm sry bout that hold on
[01:58] <h1st0> !appdb | ryna
[01:58] <adamonline45> Pelo: Thank you
[01:58] <ubotu> ryna: The Wine Application DB is a database of applications and help for !Windows programs that run under !WINE: http://appdb.winehq.org
[01:58] <ryna> h1st0, k sorry
[01:58] <Pelo> !who | cythrawll
[01:58] <ubotu> cythrawll: As you can see, this is a large channel. If you're speaking to someone in particular, please put their nickname in what you say (use !tab), or else messages get lost and it becomes confusing :)
[01:58] <mattbot> In the linux file structure, where would one put a script?
[01:58] <Tech-Mike> jrib - will i get this prob again if i sudo an app
[01:58] <froggy__> and lease copy configuration file template to /etc/X11
[01:58] <LjL> mattbot: /usr/local/bin most likely
[01:58] <cythrawll> Pelo, apologies
[01:58] <IndyGunFreak> froggy__: are you using gutsy?
[01:58] <SavageOne> hey guys
[01:58] <Pelo> cythrawll, I probabaly just missed half of wht you said that is all
[01:58] <SavageOne> I'm having trouble w/ apt-get
[01:59] <mattbot> LjL, wouldn't you just put a link to that script there?
[01:59] <froggy__> v 7.1
[01:59] <LjL> mattbot: normally no
[01:59] <froggy__> is that gutsy?
[01:59]  * emgent heya
[01:59] <IndyGunFreak> froggy__: you didn't see this right above those insructions.....   You now have to configure xorg to use your graphic card. The aticonfig tool, provided with the driver, will do that for you (aticonfig does not seem to work for Gutsy Gibbons):
[01:59] <smooker_> hey , what happens if i install xubuntu-desktop at the existing ubuntu with synaptic ?
[01:59] <Pelo> SavageOne, better question please
[01:59] <cythrawll> Pelo, all I said was that I don't need it, but the person who uses the laptop will
[01:59] <LjL> mattbot: of course you can just keep the script inside your home if only you need to use it
[01:59] <robdig> SavageOne: what is it doing (or not)?
[01:59] <cythrawll> Pelo, the screen goes blank for more than a few seconds and she'll think it's broke
[01:59] <kelsin> smooker_: you get the xubuntu packages added and the option to go into a xfce session from the login screen
[01:59] <kelsin> smooker_: nothing bad
[01:59] <IndyGunFreak> froggy__: 7.10= Gutsy
[01:59] <theblock> is there a driver for nvidia geforce4 tv out?
[01:59] <mikeooo> is there a guide for installing the newest intel gma965 x3100 graphics drivers?
[01:59] <Pelo> smooker_,  your menu will have more option and you'll have the choice to boot xcfe from the login screen
[01:59] <SavageOne> I'm reading instructions for installing lcdproc, so basicallt I'm trying "sudo apt-get install lcdproc" which is what every set of instructions I've found says to do, and it's basically saying the package doesn't exist....  also if I do a "sudo apt-cache search lcdproc" it finds nothing
[02:00] <cythrawll> Pelo, and we are talking a few minutes until the login screen appears
[02:00] <IndyGunFreak> theblock: i think so... not 100% sue though.
[02:00] <theblock> cuz i cant find any
[02:00] <SavageOne> so that would lead me to believe the package doesn't exist, but everyone's saying it doesn't.  I tried "sudo apt-get update" but it goes really quick
[02:00] <Pelo> cythrawll, what did you do to get it this away ?
[02:00] <crdlb> mikeooo: that's not necessary or recommended
[02:00] <smooker_> mm i thout its installing other os :P
[02:00] <SavageOne> maybe my apt-get database is old or whatever but I don't know any other way of udating it other then that
[02:00] <crdlb> mikeooo: pastebin your /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[02:00] <robdig> SavageOne: go to system->administration->software sources and make sure that all of the repos are checked
[02:01] <froggy__> what does "You now have to configure xorg to use your graphic card. The aticonfig tool, provided with the driver, will do that for you (aticonfig does not seem to work for Gutsy Gibbons):" mean???????
[02:01] <Pelo> SavageOne, check in synaptic enable multiverse and backport , and try again
[02:01] <SavageOne> robdig: I'm working from command line
[02:01] <LjL> it's in universe actually
[02:01] <IndyGunFreak> froggy__: its self explanatory, aticonfig doesn't work with gutsy, what part of it do you not understand?
[02:01] <SavageOne> via putty
[02:01] <SavageOne> ssh
[02:01] <Tech-Mike> jrib - in the console after running 'gnome-session-properties' and adding awn...i get 'could not save /home/tech-mike/.config/autostart/avant-window-navigator.desktop file'
[02:01] <smooker_> brb all
[02:01] <cythrawll> Pelo, install ubuntu
[02:01] <mattbot> LjL, Let me define my question a little better. I have a 4 File ruby script that I wrote for a school project. I want to put a folder with those 4 files somewhere and then link to the main file in /usr/bin. Where would I put the source?
[02:01] <Pelo> cythrawll, that is all you did ?
[02:01] <LjL> SavageOne: sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list and uncomment universe (in gutsy, gutsy-updates and gutsy-security), then sudo apt-get update
[02:01]  * IndyGunFreak laughs at Pelo's disbelief
[02:01] <cythrawll> Pelo, the live cd worked fine, after boot after initial install it has been broke
[02:01] <froggy__> so how do I install 3d graphics and rendering??
[02:01] <Pelo> cythrawll,  what's this machine like ? cpu  mem , etc ?
[02:01] <robdig> SavageOne: then edit /etc/apt/sources.list and make sure the repos are un-commented
[02:01] <SavageOne> ahhh Ljl thanks!
[02:02] <storywarden> does anyone know the command to change the mac(hardware) address of your pc's NIC?
[02:02] <matt__> i recently[just now] dist-upgraded my machine to hardy hebron
[02:02] <Pelo> froggy__, did you check the forum on this ?
[02:02] <IndyGunFreak> froggy__: that i really don't know.
[02:02] <kelsin> mattbot: normall you put all ruby class files in the ruby library directories (don't know where those are atm) then put a file that runs the program (shell script, or simple ruby script that starts some classes) in /usr/local/bin
[02:02]  * robdig thinks LjL has fast fingers :)
[02:02] <Benalex> storywarden: I think this is in the hardware itself and cannot be changed
[02:02] <digitori> how does froggy configure his ati if aticonfig doesnt work
[02:03] <kelsin> mattbot: and you should use /usr/local/bin not /usr/bin to not clash with anything from apt by accident
[02:03] <mikeooo> crdlb: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/46649/
[02:03] <LjL> mattbot: leave /usr/bin alone, you're not supposed to touch that. you could put the "executable" script in /usr/local/bin, and the "library" scripts in /usr/local/lib. if that's the way they're modularized.
[02:03] <cythrawll> Pelo, it's an old pos, Pentium 4 2.4 GHZ, memory is 337504 kb
[02:03] <doseryder> hello, anyone here using gtkpod with ipod nano (the latest version)
[02:03] <IndyGunFreak> froggy__: i'd suggest an Nvidia card, driver takes all of about 5min
[02:03] <skyfalcon866> whats recovering jorunal mean
[02:03] <froggy__> how do you check a forum???
[02:03] <cythrawll> Pelo, it's a dell inspiron 1100 laptop
[02:03] <LjL> !traffic
[02:03] <ubotu> NOTICE - There is a lot of traffic in this channel at the moment. Please try to keep your sentences into a single message, avoid repeating the same question multiple times, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org for pasting, remember to mention the nickname of the person you're addressing, and join #ubuntu-offtopic for anything that is not Ubuntu support. Thank you for understanding!
[02:03] <worthawholebean> Help! I'm trapped in 1152x864!
[02:03] <matt__> my nvidia restricted module based Xconfig is crashing
[02:03] <SavageOne> Ljl:  I think I found the problem, my sources.list file has only one line in it that reads:  deb file:/usr/pluto/deb-cache/ ./
[02:03] <mattbot> thank you LjL and kelsin
[02:03] <IndyGunFreak> froggy__: http://www.ubuntuforums.com and there's a search button
[02:03] <SavageOne> this is a kubuntu install from the linuxmce dvd
[02:03] <Pelo> cythrawll,  get the alternate install cd,  it is usualy kinder during the install process , if something went wrong it wont, with that one
[02:03] <froggy__> what should I search for?
[02:03] <LjL> SavageOne: then you're using a local mirror for your APT... are you that system's administrator? did you install it?
[02:04] <SavageOne> that explains why but that's ridiculous I dunno what should be in there on a normal system atm
[02:04] <Tech-Mike> jrib ... ?
[02:04] <IndyGunFreak> froggy__: sorry, i can't really hold your hand and teach you how to search.
[02:04] <worthawholebean> I've got a radeon x1600 with the fglrx driver, but I can't change my resolution.
[02:04] <h1st0> appdb ryna, ryna Read the private message from ubotu.
[02:04] <tarelerulz> I am have a problem getting my wireless card working  and my lan port seem to have the same problem .   they both seem to time out on web pages.  The wireless I have been working on for day so I am lost as to what I need to do ,but the wirless  I would like to know way it is slow.
[02:04] <IndyGunFreak> i would suggest, ATI Gutsy Gibbon (cardmodel) problem..
[02:04] <crdlb> mikeooo: ok you're missing a few lines, so do: sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg
[02:04] <cythrawll> Pelo, reinstallation is kinda wanted to avoid... I can't just configure some option in grub?
[02:04] <SavageOne> naw I'm not the admin it's just a box I'm using for home media, testing this linuxmce stuff out
[02:04] <froggy__> thanks
[02:04] <mikeooo> should i manually select the intel driver?
[02:04] <SavageOne> so basically by default it's neutered not to see the normal ubuntu stuff
[02:04] <SavageOne> how do I get it to actually be searching packages hehe
[02:04] <mikeooo> and i have to kill x before i do that right?
[02:04] <Pelo> cythrawll, not sure , when the coomp is booted , does it work properly ?
[02:05] <kelsin> mattbot: in ruby the $: variable stores the load path and it look slike ruby looks in /usr/local/lib/site_ruby/1.8 if you're on gutsy
[02:05] <cythrawll> Pelo, coomp?
[02:05] <Benalex> cythrawll: What is it with grub?
[02:05] <LjL> SavageOne, the guy who installed it put some sort of local APT repository on it... if it's got a working internet connection, you can just replace the sources.list with a standard one
[02:05] <LjL> !easysource > SavageOne    (SavageOne, see the private message from Ubotu)
[02:05] <Pelo> cythrawll, computer
[02:05] <Towerblock> does anyone have time to give a noob some   pointers on how to get sound working on an HP 9000 series laptop under gutsy?
[02:05] <Pelo> cythrawll, can you pastebing your /boot/grub/menu.lst file ?
[02:05] <cythrawll> Benalex, I don't get the grub menu or the ubuntu load status screen.... everything is blank until the login screen appears
[02:05] <SavageOne> thanks!
[02:05] <mattbot> thanks again kelsin
[02:06] <bazhang_> !sound | Towerblock
[02:06] <ubotu> Towerblock: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[02:06] <Pelo> !sound > Towerblock check for a private message windows with instructions from ubotu
[02:06] <doseryder>  hello, anyone here using gtkpod with ipod nano (the latest version)?
[02:06] <cythrawll> Pelo... uhhh, hold on...
[02:06] <doseryder> !info gtkpod
[02:06] <ubotu> gtkpod: manage songs and playlists on an Apple iPod. In component universe, is extra. Version 0.99.10-2 (gutsy), package size 695 kB, installed size 2620 kB
[02:06] <SavageOne> how can I figure out which version of ubuntu I'm running
[02:06] <SavageOne> without x
[02:06] <LjL> !version > SavageOne    (SavageOne, see the private message from Ubotu)
[02:06] <h1st0> SavageOne: cat /etc/ver
[02:06] <Benalex> cythrawll: well this is kinda weird, but as a first step... sudo /boot/grub/menu.lst and remove quite from ubuntu kernel line
[02:06] <h1st0> SavageOne: cat /etc/issue
[02:06] <htmldotcom> the perl scripting is really nice.
[02:07] <Towerblock> hi ubotu alsa is selected ive been reading most of those threads all day
[02:07] <Pelo> !ubotu | Towerblock
[02:07] <jcsteele> after doing a manual configuration of my wireless settings, i can't get network-manager to work anymore for selecting wireless.
[02:07] <ubotu> Towerblock: I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[02:07] <cythrawll> Benalex, sure hold on let me try that
[02:07] <IndyGunFreak> Towerblock: whats your sound device?
[02:07] <doseryder> !ubotu gtkpod
[02:07] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about gtkpod - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[02:08] <LjL> !msgthebot > doseryder    (doseryder, see the private message from Ubotu)
[02:08] <Benalex> cythrawll: this will remove the splash so you can see whats behind... and check if splash keyword is at the end of the line
[02:08] <SavageOne> thanks guys
[02:08] <jcsteele> anyone know how i can get the "enable roaming" option to appear in the manual configuration screen for my wireless device?
[02:08] <SavageOne> worked like a charm
[02:09] <nalpha> Anyone knows this error ??? PDOException' with message 'SQLSTATE[28000] [1045] Access denied for user 'calemeam'@'localhost' (using password: YES) ??? Please somebody say something to me
[02:09] <cythrawll> Benalex, do I need to do anything after editing the file?
[02:09] <Benalex> yes, save then reboot
[02:09] <mikeooo> crdlb: that didn't fix anything
[02:09] <mikeooo> direct rendering: No (If you want to find out why, try setting LIBGL_DEBUG=verbose) OpenGL renderer string: Mesa GLX Indirect
[02:09] <IndyGunFreak> Towerblock: what sound device do you have?
[02:09] <Pelo> Gnight folks
[02:10] <kelsin> nalpha: whatever software you're using is failing to connect to mysql due to access restrictions
[02:10] <mikeooo> how do i enable direct rendering on intel gma965 x3100
[02:10] <Benalex> jcsteele: click system>>administrator>>Network, and select your wireless connection click properties and check the box "enable roaming"
[02:12] <adamonline45> Can anyone help me out? If I do iwconfig, I can see my wlan0.  If I do ifup wlan0, it says 'ignoring unknown interface wlan0=wlan0'.  What can I doooo?
[02:12] <sexcopter> hi, i have a question. now that we have an actual choice, would you choose using ntfs over fat for a partition to be used by ubuntu and windows, or stick to the good old fat?
[02:13] <Towerblock> sorry indy u still there?
[02:13] <Tech-Mike> jrib - u there man?
[02:13] <LjL> sexcopter: i'd use ext3 :)
[02:13] <kelsin> adamonline45: do you have wlan0 config lines in /etc/network/interfaces?
[02:13] <sexcopter> LjL, and how would you use that in windows?
[02:13] <Towerblock> my sound card is Intel Corporation 82801H
[02:13] <DM|> conky is starting to piss me off lol.. it FLICKERS when compiz is on. no matter what i do ( not conky itself ) but makes compiz windows flicker where the conky lies beneth.
[02:13] <Benalex> sexcopter: I suggest NTFS... more secure than fat
[02:13] <riotkittie> sexcopter: i can't imagine wanting to use fat over ntfs in such a situation. although...
[02:14] <LjL> sexcopter: plenty of ways, just google "ext2 windows" and "ext3 windows" (ext2 drivers work, as well).
[02:14] <LjL> !ext3 > sexcopter    (sexcopter, see the private message from Ubotu)
[02:14] <tonyyarusso> sexcopter: I use NTFS for the Windows system itself, but put all user data on ext3.
[02:14] <htmldotcom> I have some problems with gdm, can someone help?
[02:14] <sexcopter> basically, i have a fat partition from ye olde times, and just wondering if it's worth changing it to ntfs
[02:14] <adamonline45> kelsin: no, but I don't have eht0 in there either, and it works fine.  Do you know the syntax of what I should add?
[02:14] <riotkittie> htmldotcom: tell us your problems, and find out, buddy.
[02:14] <htmldotcom> I tried installing, but its the newest version of gdm.
[02:14] <Benalex> sexcopter: you can use ext3(linux files system) with windows using Ext2IFS utility , but it is not working 100%
[02:15] <htmldotcom> Well I tried installing KDE alongside with gnome by typing "sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop" and it installed, but after that, gdm wont load
[02:15] <tonyyarusso> Benalex: what doesn't work about it for you?
[02:15] <kelsin> adamonline45: from the command line you should be able to just do "iwconfig wlan0 essid BLAH" then "dhclient wlan0" to bring it up as well, if you need examples for /etc/network/interfaces you can check out "man interfaces"
[02:15] <sexcopter> Benalex: I've also heard that that software isn't 100% safe with data
[02:15] <mikeooo> anyone know how to fix this?
[02:15] <DM|> mikeooo: fix what
[02:15] <adamonline45> kelsin: Do you know how I'd find the essid number?
[02:15] <riotkittie> htmldotcom: does kdm load?  does sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start  not bring it up?
[02:16] <mikeooo> mike@mike-linux-laptop:~$ glxinfo | grep direct direct rendering: No (If you want to find out why, try setting LIBGL_DEBUG=verbose) OpenGL renderer string: Mesa GLX Indirect mike@mike-linux-laptop:~$ grep -i aiglx /var/log/Xorg.0.log(==) AIGLX enabled (EE) AIGLX: Screen 0 is not DRI capable
[02:16] <htmldotcom> I didnt try loading kdm.
[02:16] <Benalex> sexcopter: No it is safe... but sometimes you won't be able to delete some files and have to reboot to linux to delete them , which of course may be forgotten and may get you in trouble ;)
[02:16] <kelsin> adamonline45: if you don't knwo the essid of the wireless router you're trying to connect to then there's a big problem
[02:16] <DM|> mikeooo ATI?
[02:16] <mikeooo> intel x3100 graphics
[02:16] <mikeooo> gma965
[02:16] <cythrawll> Benalex, no dice
[02:16] <DM|> mikeooo have you installed the driver?
[02:16] <mikeooo> i thought it was included
[02:16] <kelsin> adamonline45: you can type "iwlist wlan0 scan" to scan for newarby access points
[02:16] <Benalex> cythrawll: paste ur menu.lst in private please
[02:16] <mikeooo> if it isn't where can i find it and install it
[02:17] <mikeooo> running .22
[02:17] <htmldotcom> So you think I should try to run kdm?
[02:17] <mikeooo> .22-14
[02:17] <DM|> mikeooo for 3d? im not sure. should be in synaptic if that, but i dont know anything about intel gfx :( sorry
[02:17] <mikeooo> supposed to be supported by the kernel since .22
[02:17] <riotkittie> idunno. oh my kitchen is on fire. sorry. got to go.
[02:17] <htmldotcom> gdm definitely does not start. It just gives me a busy symbol that I can move around.
[02:18] <Benalex> sexcopter: what size is that fat partition?
[02:18] <htmldotcom> oh, dont call his partiton fat. :D
[02:18] <sexcopter> Benalex: it's currently 40gig, but i might be growing it by 15 or so some time soon
[02:19] <Benalex> htmldotcom: LoL...
[02:19] <htmldotcom> :p
[02:19] <Benalex> sexcopter: 40gigs partition???
[02:19] <mikeooo> xserver-xorg-video-intel is installed
[02:19] <Benalex> sexcopter: formated in FAT???... I don't think so
[02:19] <mikeooo> so how do i enable direct rendering
[02:19] <thedefender> how do i delete a load sequance
[02:19] <mikeooo> the driver intel is being used too in xorg.conf
[02:20] <sexcopter> Benalex: how come not?
[02:20] <Thorsten12> bye for now all
[02:21] <smooker_> someone pls help, im trying to install alsa drivers but after i run ./configure i got error "
[02:21] <smooker_> "The file /usr/src/linux/include/linux/version.h does not exist."
[02:21] <Benalex> sexcopter: well I can't recall what max size FAT fs could be... but I doubt it is 40 (forty gigs)
[02:21] <kelsin> Benalex: it can be much bigger since I assume sexcopter would be using FAT32
[02:21] <htmldotcom> lol sexcopter
[02:22] <sexcopter> oh yeah, this is vfat/fat32, i'm fairly sure
[02:22] <adamonline45> kelsin: Alright, I got my essid.  When I try to connect to is using iwconfig wlan0 essid the_essid, it says nothing, and naturally dhclient fails.
[02:22] <alyxander> question
[02:22] <alyxander> how do i fix
[02:22] <alyxander> The 'Manual' browser command has been chosen, but no command has been set.
[02:22] <alyxander> in pigin
[02:22] <kelsin> adamonline45: does it list an access point with essid when you just run "iwconfig" now?
[02:22] <digitori> fat 32 can be up to about 8 terrabytes
[02:23] <kelsin> adamonline45: and also what error with dhclient, just timeing out?
[02:23] <htmldotcom> anybody know how to solve a problem where gdm isnt loading? (im reasking, lol)
[02:23] <Benalex> sexcopter: anyway... since it is 40 gigs, move to NTFS... for more security and better space utilization
[02:23] <corruptionoflulz> condon: devede worked alright?
[02:23] <digitori> 8 terrabytes using cluster size 0f 32 KB
[02:23] <tds5016> anyone here manage to get wow to work with wine?
[02:24] <sexcopter> Benalex: okie doke, i'll see to it
[02:24] <sexcopter> thanks for all your help guys
[02:24] <kelsin> tds5016: what errors are you getting?
[02:24] <adamonline45> kelsin: Yeah, the dhclient just gets no dhcp offers.  iwconfig still says 'ESSID off/any', and access point is 'not-associated'...
[02:24] <h1st0> tds5016: many people have
[02:24] <Tech-Mike> can someone help: even after doing 'sudo chown $USER: ~/.config' i cannot change startup options (gnome-session-properties)
[02:24] <h1st0> !appdb > tds5016, tds5016 Read the private message from ubotu.
[02:24] <digitori> wow? windows Viruses Intruders Spyware Trojans Adware wow?
[02:24] <alyxander> anyone