[01:17] <murthy_> Riddell: are you there?
[01:37] <murthy_> Riddell: If "debuild -S" fails for nootka, its due to a .directory file inside picts dir in the original tar, i justed test built and its successfull. only one lintian warning, "W: nootka: hardening-no-fortify-functions usr/bin/nootka"
[05:15] <ScottK> xnox: Same source package.
[05:15] <ScottK> xnox: There will be a PyQt5 later.
[05:16] <ScottK> xnox: Also, only python3 support is known to work at the moment.
[05:16] <ScottK> (qith Qt5)
[05:16] <ScottK> with
[08:21] <lordievader> Good morning
[10:03]  * Riddell out for the day rolling easter eggs
[10:45]  * yofel wonders if people really read the trello cards and moves both qtwebkit 2.3 cards from todo to done
[10:51] <who_me> hello, is there any chance that the fix for kde bug #298895 will make it on the next respin of the LTS images ?
[10:56] <shadeslayer> seeing how precise only has <IP_ADDRESS>-0ubuntu2.1and the bug was fixed in <IP_ADDRESS> ... don't think so
[10:56] <yofel> nope, at least not unless someone files a bug and does the SRU paperwork
[10:57] <shadeslayer> ^
[10:57] <yofel> hm
[10:57] <shadeslayer> and if you're doing that, why not just SRU <IP_ADDRESS> if it's a bug fix only release
[10:58] <yofel> it has no micro release exception. So have fun reviewing the .1 -> .8 diff
[10:58] <shadeslayer> ^^ :P
[10:59] <yofel> I'm not convinced that it's bugfix-only either, at least thingking about stuff like openconnect
[10:59] <yofel> *thinking
[11:00] <yofel> shadeslayer: how about a trello board for LTS fixes?
[11:02] <shadeslayer> well ... sure
[11:03] <yofel> that sounded incredibly... unenthusiastic
[11:03] <shadeslayer> heh :p
[11:03] <yofel> not that I don't understand you ^^
[11:04] <shadeslayer> you know how much paperwork one has to file to get SRU's
[11:04] <shadeslayer> and so much work to do
[11:04] <shadeslayer> even after that things get stuck in the queue or in -proposed
[11:04] <shadeslayer> so unless someone actually follows through with everything, there's little point in doing so much work
[11:09] <who_me> so I'm stuck I guess. It's a long shot but I'm going to ask very very nicely for a patch against <IP_ADDRESS>. If that happens, maybe it gets integrated...
[11:09] <shadeslayer> won't the Kubuntu Backports PPA have an updated package for this?
[11:10] <shadeslayer> or we could throw an updated package into -backports
[11:10] <shadeslayer> ( assuming it builds )
[11:11] <yofel>      <IP_ADDRESS>-0ubuntu1~ppa1~precise1 0
[11:11] <yofel>          50 http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-ppa/ppa/ubuntu/ precise/main amd64 Packages
[11:11] <yofel> the updates PPA has .3
[11:11] <yofel> backports has .7
[11:12] <yofel> [12:00:37] <who_me> problem is that with the particular setup I simply can't get online, so no updates
[11:13] <yofel> so that won't help much...
[11:14] <lordievader> Download the package from another machine and carry it over using a usb-stick?
[11:14] <shadeslayer>  ^
[11:14] <shadeslayer> tether your phone?
[11:22] <who_me> would a newer package for precise (for example the on in backports) be a drop-in replacement ? Would installing it cause trouble when attempting to upgrade to KDE 4.10 ?
[11:23] <who_me> one*
[11:24] <yofel> no
[11:24] <yofel> erm, a) yes, b) no
[11:25] <yofel> who_me: at least .3 should be a drop-in replacement
[11:31] <who_me> ok, will try to do that.
[12:49] <BluesKaj> Happy Easter all
[12:58] <Quintasan> \o
[12:58] <Quintasan> Happy Easter btw
[12:58] <Quintasan> Riddell: Did the plasma-mediacenter -> kubuntu.active seed change got merged?
[13:03] <murthy_> BluesKaj: happy Easter
[13:04] <BluesKaj> thanks murthy
[13:05] <murthy_> Riddell: what happened to nootka?
[13:12] <lordievader> Good afternoon
[13:56] <shadeslayer> Quintasan: yep
[13:56] <xnox> ScottK: ok, will require some further hacks then. As I'm patching it up at the moment locallly to give me some sensible packages. I'm hitting the caveat that our Qt5 is build with no deprecated api, where is pyqt expects qt4 api to still be present and the -no-deprecated option does actually fully build without deprecated functionality.
[13:57] <xnox> There doesn't seem to be any public pyqt repository so I will be mailing their mailing list.
[13:57] <shadeslayer> Mirv: you were indeed correct
[13:58] <shadeslayer> I was missing qt4-dev-tools for some reason 0.o
[13:58] <shadeslayer> sorry for that
[14:01] <Quintasan> shadeslayer: Splendid
[14:01]  * shadeslayer hands some chocolate eggs to Quintasan
[14:10]  * yofel has real colored eggs to share
[14:11] <shadeslayer> I only have virtual eggs :(
[14:14] <Quintasan> Why, thanks shadeslayer
[14:42] <xnox> Do we have phonon build against qt5 yet? https://projects.kde.org/projects/kdesupport/phonon/phonon/repository
[15:21] <shadeslayer> xnox: it should build
[15:21] <shadeslayer> same goes for the backends
[15:37]  * yofel pokes release team wrt. 4.10.2
[16:38] <soee> can someone confirm:
[16:40] <soee> put panel on left screen side, make it autohide, open some app (will make panel hide) and trigger notification - notification will shows up at the position where normally panel side is visible
[16:52] <ScottK> xnox: I suspect that "no deprecated" will have to go at some point.
[17:15] <ScottK> shadeslayer: Do you want to help maintain rekonq in Debian mayber?
[17:37] <yofel> soee: confirmed
[18:57] <ScottK> did anyone update kscreen to RC 1?
[19:50] <xnox> ScottK: what do you mean? I don't know how previous Qt versions were build but qt5 is build with no deprecated functionality enabled =( thus on the pyqt side there is not much choice i have.
[19:51] <ScottK> xnox: What I mean is that I think Qt5 will have to be built without no deprecated eventually.
[19:51] <ScottK> Not every single potential user of Qt5 willl be fully ported.
[19:58] <xnox> ScottK: wouldn't that introduce Qt4 api & abi for ever into the qt5 packages?
[19:59] <ScottK> xnox: Probably, but I don't see a way around it.
[20:00] <ScottK> I mean it's a different ABI than no deprecated, but it's not the same as Qt4.
[20:00] <ScottK> API too.
[20:05] <xnox> It will just come back to bite us around 5.2 or 6.x time whenever deprecated stuff will be removed. They kept it in due to commercial licenses.
[20:05] <xnox> But we will continue to have 4.x in the archive.
[20:05] <xnox> Even with deprecated enabled it will not be a drop-in replacement for e.g. all of pyqt apps.
[20:28] <ScottK> Sure.
[20:28] <ScottK> I guess it'd be good to know if KDE is going to depend on any of the deprecated stuff.
[20:31] <yofel> ScottK: doesn't seem like anyone did. We're missing a few commits in kscreen, so I'm not sure whether that really needs to be in beta
[20:32] <ScottK> yofel: If you'll update it, I'll let it in if needed.
[20:32] <ScottK> I think it'd be good to match the actual RC even if we're already close.
[20:32] <yofel> k
[20:52] <ScottK> xnox: Did you sponsor jtaylor's PyQt fix?
[20:53] <xnox> ScottK: yes.
[20:53] <ScottK> xnox: Thanks.
[20:53] <xnox> np.
[20:53]  * ScottK marks that off TODO.
[20:53] <ScottK> After all, an action passed is an action complete.
[20:54] <ScottK> s/complete/completed/
[20:54] <kubotu> ScottK meant: "After all, an action passed is an action completed."
[20:59] <yofel> ScottK: uploaded lib/kscreen
[21:13] <ScottK> yofel: Thanks.
[22:15] <Riddell> evening
[22:15] <Riddell> Quintasan: yep that got in
[22:16] <Riddell> murthy_: nootka needs a patch for arm https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nootka/0.8.60~beta-0ubuntu1
[22:25] <ScottK> Riddell: Did you see my ping about bug 1069072?
[22:26] <Riddell> ScottK: yeah, I must have written that years ago and nobody noticed
[22:26] <Riddell> I wonder if I want to faff around with dropping permissons or just put up a url like the gtk one does
[22:27] <ScottK> Riddell: Actually, you could just call ubuntu-bug with the right permissions and that would probably be even easier.
[22:27] <Riddell> "with the right permissions" is the tricky bit
[22:28] <Riddell> ubiquity does all sorts of machinations to get it to use the right permissions
[22:28] <ScottK> This is an upgrade though.
[22:28] <ScottK> You can get the correct username from the environment.
[22:28] <ScottK> SUDO_USER="$USERNAME"
[22:29] <Riddell> that's only half the faff, need to work out if it's effective user or real user and then it might need some other environment variables
[22:29] <Riddell> it might be easy I'll give it a shot
[22:38]  * xnox recalls switching to pkexec and adding hacks to keep username correct instead of using sudo....
[22:40] <Riddell> mm
[22:42] <ScottK> pkexec --user $(SUDO_USE) ubuntu-bug $PACKAGENAME  should at least get the CLI version of apport running as the correct user.
[22:43] <ScottK> s/USE/USER/
[22:43] <kubotu> ScottK meant: "pkexec --user $(SUDO_USER) ubuntu-bug $PACKAGENAME  should at least get the CLI version of apport running as the correct user."
[23:43] <Riddell> could a nice user helping person handle this?  I'm away tomorrow too
[23:43] <Riddell> http://paste.kde.org/711950/
[23:43] <Riddell> Darkwing, Mamarok?


[02:18]  * HedgeMage pokes ogra / ogra_cmpc gently, checking if he's awake
[03:45] <HedgeMage> hi ogra
[03:46] <LaserJock> I think he's asleep
[03:46] <HedgeMage> ahh
[03:46] <HedgeMage> what's up, LaserJock ?
[03:47] <LaserJock> I could be wrong since he's like always around, but it's 4 or 5am his time
[03:47] <LaserJock> oh, just trying to get some things done
[03:47] <LaserJock> had a new laser installed today, very exciting
[03:47] <HedgeMage> I can never keep track of who's in which time zone
[03:47] <HedgeMage> fun :)
[08:14] <achandrashekar> hello.after posting to edubuntu, ubuntu, ubuntu-server Im still having a heck of a time with ldap auth with ltsp. It appears a bug that has been around since Dapper is STILL not resolved. As a result it makes it VERY difficult to promote edubuntu in an Infrastructure environment. Does anyone have a solution or work around for the libnss bug which causes a klog daemon lock up during boot?
[08:15] <johnny> well, try a newer version that isn't already with dapper?
[08:15] <achandrashekar> im using 7.10
[08:15] <achandrashekar> there is no newer version with ltsp
[08:15] <achandrashekar> 5
[08:16] <johnny> oh.. you're using gutsy, but the bug was from dapper?
[08:16] <johnny> you need to stick it out perhaps.. and come on here during their normal hours :)
[08:16] <johnny> but is there a newer version that isn't in gutsy even?
[08:16] <johnny> not ltsp, but libnss
[08:17] <achandrashekar> that is a good question...i suppose there may be a deb out there that I can upgrade to..and see what happens
[08:17] <achandrashekar> who knows what dependencies it will break though
[08:18] <johnny> backups are good
[08:18] <achandrashekar> I cant imagine though...that people who want to use such things as SMBLDAP for other things would "just wait it out"
[08:18] <achandrashekar> especially when ubuntu is making a public push to be "enterprise ready"
[08:18] <johnny> it seems that you're blazing a trail here.. using something a subset of a subset of a subset of what people want
[08:18] <achandrashekar> ya know?
[08:19] <johnny> sure, but they aren't perfect
[08:19] <achandrashekar> why blazing a trail? Its a setup that is in the wiki
[08:19] <johnny> that's why canoncial has a support contract option :)
[08:19] <achandrashekar> and across two how to's that are posted
[08:19] <johnny> i wouldn't know.. i've never done anything like that, nor am i affiliated with canoncial either
[08:20] <achandrashekar> yeah...i get the picture... just very frustrating..
[08:20] <johnny> but this is truly why they have a contract option
[08:20] <achandrashekar> it sits in the bug cue...
[08:20] <johnny> just wanted to mention that, in case you thought i was really involved with edubuntu
[08:21] <johnny> it'd be nice to find somebody who was doing ltsp stuff locally..
[08:21] <achandrashekar> yeah..they all use the "out of the box" two nic method
[08:21] <achandrashekar> and then complain that they cant boot more than 15 boxes.
[08:22] <achandrashekar> I have an athlon x2 setup with dhcp failover and it works bitchin
[08:22] <achandrashekar> all i need is this auth piece
[08:22] <achandrashekar> and im golden
[08:22] <achandrashekar> so that kind of is why im frustrated.
[08:22] <achandrashekar> Some long nights putting the pieces together.
[08:22] <johnny> don't i know it
[08:22] <achandrashekar> and now i have an unbootable system...
[08:22] <achandrashekar> damn
[08:22] <johnny> i had enough troubles getting my 4 client setup working
[08:23] <johnny> i'm looking forward to hardy
[08:23] <achandrashekar> but im not here to bitch..(which may come across that way)
[08:23] <achandrashekar> just trying to get to a point where stuff works.
[08:23] <achandrashekar> what is the release date for hardy?
[08:24] <johnny> ubuntu's update policy sometimes causes some fixes not to get included, because the upstream developers  (or others) posted patches that were a bit too invasive
[08:24] <johnny> april sometime iirc
[08:25] <achandrashekar> I see. This LDAP thing is like a bread/butter component of any Enterprise system. It is really really important IMHO
[08:26] <johnny> if i had enough clients , i'm sure i would have already ran into it
[08:26] <johnny> and tried to resolve it
[08:26] <johnny> but i'm geeky enough to force it :)
[08:27] <johnny> trolling irc and forums all over the place
[08:27] <johnny> and jumping in the code and stuff
[08:27] <achandrashekar> heh..cool
[08:27] <achandrashekar> might have to do the same in the debian channel..
[08:27] <achandrashekar> and see what happens
[08:27] <achandrashekar> im sure it affects them too.
[08:27] <johnny> what about the main #ltsp channel
[08:27] <johnny> that's where you should prolly hang out
[08:27] <johnny> don't bug the debianers
[08:28] <johnny> they might be startled
[08:28] <achandrashekar> not a bad idea.
[08:28] <johnny> or upset, depending on how they feel about ubuntu
[08:29] <johnny> being involved in projects is often more about politics than technical issues
[08:29] <johnny> so you better be careful out there
[08:29] <achandrashekar> yes...i here you...fork after fork after fork...people upset...and then they hit you with a spoon :)
[08:29] <achandrashekar> lol
[08:30] <johnny> most of the folks who are deeply involved in ltsp stuff seem to only come about during US/Europe daytime hours
[08:30] <johnny> a bit later in europe..but still
[08:31] <johnny> you always come here around 2-4am my time
[08:31] <johnny> when nobody else is around
[08:33] <achandrashekar> oh my
[08:33] <achandrashekar> i see.
[08:33] <achandrashekar> its 12 PST time
[08:33] <achandrashekar> and that is when I wind down...
[08:33] <achandrashekar> just a few more hours then..i see no problem in waiting.
[08:33] <achandrashekar> thanks.
[08:34] <johnny> you wind down by trying to make ltsp work?
[08:34] <johnny> lol
[08:38] <johnny> i wish i could afford to work on this stuff fulltime..
[08:39] <achandrashekar> No...its on my time at a school I work at. I used to be full time IT guy, that basically decided to help students in a low socioecomonic area with Math.
[08:39] <achandrashekar> But it appears...bad leadership cant be fixed and as a result i wanted to continue to stay sharp
[08:39] <achandrashekar> in Linux
[08:39] <achandrashekar> because that world moves REAL fast unlike education.
[08:40] <achandrashekar> So... I spend my time after school trying to help as well as learn
[08:40] <achandrashekar> ;)
[08:40] <achandrashekar> its a tricky proposition
[08:40] <achandrashekar> philanthropy and eating dont mix to well.
[08:41] <achandrashekar> hence your comment on paid support makes perfect sense.
[08:41] <achandrashekar> :)
[09:11] <johnny> ogra.. we're finally getting the duplicate filenames bug solved
[09:11] <johnny> in sabayon that is
[09:11] <johnny> the other things that need badly fixed are some issues when removng panel items
[09:11] <johnny> which are registered in launchpad
[09:11] <johnny> it could be related to the duplicate files bug tho
[09:11] <johnny> when i get the patch in, i'll let you know
[10:36] <Nubae> hi there...
[10:37] <Nubae> anyone know if ed(ubuntu) is going to be at fosdem this weekend in brussels?
[10:37] <Nubae> from what I've read there doesn't seem to be much ubuntu stuff happening there
[11:13] <juliux> ogra, take a look at http://ubuntu.juliux.de/tassen.jpg
[11:52] <ogra> juliux, sweet
[11:57] <juliux> ogra, if you are in hannover give me a hint then you will get a edubuntu mug;)
[12:16] <ogra_cmpc> juliux, willdo
[12:17] <jvanrooyen> Hi all, having some difficulties after edubuntu install. I'm trying to login on one of the clients and it gives me this error: this workstation is not authorised to connect to server. Can anyone help?
[12:20] <ogra_cmpc> jvanrooyen, which release
[12:20] <jvanrooyen> ogra_cmpc: Gutsy
[12:21] <ogra_cmpc> sudo lttsp-update-sshkeys && sudo ltsp-update-image
[12:21] <ogra_cmpc> copy/paste that line to a terminal on the server
[12:22] <jvanrooyen> Oh ok, what will that specifically do?
[12:22] <ogra_cmpc> i guess you changed your IP data after install
[12:22] <juliux> sudo ltsp-update-sshkeys && sudo ltsp-update-imag
[12:22] <ogra_cmpc> it will generate new ssh keys for the cdurrently active interfaces and copy them into the client env
[12:22] <jvanrooyen> oh yes I did
[12:22] <juliux> that is the correct line vor copy/paste;)
[12:23] <juliux> sudo ltsp-update-sshkeys && sudo ltsp-update-image
[12:23] <juliux> sorry:(
[12:23] <ogra_cmpc> the second command will recompress the ltsp image so the change gets actually promoted
[12:26] <jvanrooyen> ogra_cmpc: I did the 1st command
[12:26] <jvanrooyen> ogra_cmpc: The 2nd command takes some time though
[12:26] <ogra_cmpc> yeah
[12:26] <ogra_cmpc> it recompresses about 300-400M
[12:27] <ogra_cmpc> that takes a moment
[12:27] <jvanrooyen> oh ok its done now
[12:27] <ogra_cmpc> reboot the clients and it should work
[12:27] <jvanrooyen> Ok give me a sec I'll let you know now now...
[12:32] <jvanrooyen> ogra_cmpc: Thanks very much all is good now
[12:32] <ogra_cmpc> :)
[12:32] <jvanrooyen> Thanks guys
[12:32] <jvanrooyen> Yippee
[12:37] <Vaajda> can someone pls tell me if ubuntu can use 2 internet connection at the same time
[12:38] <ogra_cmpc> can you elaborate what exactly you mean by "use 2 internet connection at the same time" ?
[12:39] <ogra_cmpc> in tcp/ip you can only have one default route
[12:39] <ogra_cmpc> thats not depending on any OS
[12:40] <ogra_cmpc> s/have/use/
[13:11] <Vaajda> i want to have 2 connection on 1 pc and use both of them at the same time
[13:12] <ogra_cmpc> your system can only use one at a time
[13:12] <RichEd> Vaajda: you mean two network connections ...
[13:12] <ogra_cmpc> right, thats what i suspect as well
[13:12] <RichEd> you can have one network interface pointing to your internal network
[13:13] <RichEd> and the other to the internet
[13:13] <RichEd> but two interfaces configured to both go to the internet would make your machine unhappy
[13:13] <ogra_cmpc> no
[13:14] <ogra_cmpc> it just would pick one
[13:14] <Vaajda> i want to use one connection for say ktorrent and the other for the internet and gaming
[13:15] <ogra_cmpc> well, as i said you can have multiple connections but only one thats used for the default outbound route
[13:16] <Vaajda> unless i use vwmare
[13:16] <ogra_cmpc> wven vmware would go through the host systems default interface in the end
[13:17] <ogra_cmpc> you could probably play with tun/tap interfaces etc
[13:17] <Vaajda> but i could have 2 ips being vmware makes one computer into 2 or 3
[13:19] <ogra_cmpc> sure, but the packets will use the hosts default route unless you fiddle with virtual tun/tap interfaces to bend it
[13:19] <Vaajda> because vwmare isnt a emulator
[13:20] <ogra_cmpc> it surely possible
[13:20] <ogra_cmpc> but a lot of work
[13:20] <Vaajda> its would be cool tho
[13:20] <Vaajda> it*
[13:21] <Vaajda> what if i use another computer that is running linux with IP Masquerading
[13:22] <ogra_cmpc> if that sits on a different DSL line that should work
[13:22] <johnny> i use that tuntap thing for virtualbox
[13:22] <johnny> so i cna run it as ltsp
[13:22] <Vaajda> itsp??
[13:22] <Vaajda> im a noob to linux
[13:22] <ogra_cmpc> i use the internal net for vbox to boot virtual clients :)
[13:23] <ogra_cmpc> Vaajda, Linux Terminal Server Project
[13:23] <ogra_cmpc> LTSP
[13:23] <Vaajda> o lol
[13:23] <johnny> ogra, i can boot internal and external clients tho :)
[13:23] <ogra_cmpc> i boot my external ones from a real server :)
[13:24] <johnny> i don't have that much hardware
[13:24]  * ogra_cmpc is drowning in HW being upstream ltsp for a while you get a lot free HW
[13:25] <Vaajda> ok i got another question what should i use to play windows based games with
[13:25] <pygi> :p
[13:25] <ogra_cmpc> indeeed only the underpowered crap you cant use for anything else but thin clients :P
[13:26] <pygi> :)
[13:27] <ogra_cmpc> Vaajda, look at holarse.net some win games run under wine
[13:27] <ogra_cmpc> they have a section for that on the website somewhere
[13:28] <Vaajda> its in another lang
[13:28] <ogra_cmpc> i thought they had english pages
[13:28] <ogra_cmpc> hmm
[13:29] <Vaajda> man i hate being a noob lol
[13:29] <ogra_cmpc> linux-games.org then probably ... or google :)
[13:29]  * ogra_cmpc doesnt play any win games ... so he has no idea
[13:29] <johnny> i just use wine ..
[13:29] <johnny> check the wine appdb list for compatibility with your games
[13:32] <RichEd> johnny: i just use beer ... if i have enough of them then i think snoop dog is cool, not computers
[13:32] <Vaajda> ok thanks
[13:34] <Vaajda> i play a mmorpg and when i was using windows (which was like 3 hours ago) the game would work with my computer anymore i think b/c of adware, spyware, etc
[13:34] <Vaajda> wouldnt
[13:34] <johnny> running sabayon inside a vbox isn't so fun
[13:35] <ogra_cmpc> how about running sabayon inside of sabayon ?
[13:35]  * ogra_cmpc never checked if thats possible
[13:35] <johnny> supposed to be impossible
[13:35] <johnny> i've seen the check inside the code
[13:35] <ogra_cmpc> supposed .....
[13:35] <ogra_cmpc> :)
[13:38] <johnny> well.. sabayon isn't running too nicely with xephyr, i tried a quick hack to get it running
[13:39] <johnny> i see the desktop render , and then it crashes, and then in the console (running via gksu sabayon) i see it hanging on check for texture_from_pixmap
[13:41] <ogra_cmpc> sounds like compiz
[13:44] <johnny> it's just problem after problem here :(
[13:44] <johnny> and i'm mucking around in areas i only understand superficially
[13:45] <johnny> like autotools stuff
[13:45] <ogra_cmpc> well, i saked the compiz maintainer about it in -devel
[13:45] <ogra_cmpc> (he's also teh apt maintainer, so busy with that atm)
[13:46] <ogra_cmpc> johnny, can you come over to #ubuntu-devel ?
[13:53] <johnny> it'd be nice if there were some gui tools to manage the global /etc/xdg and /etc/gconf
[13:54] <ogra_cmpc> i think there are
[13:54] <ogra_cmpc> desktop-file-utils or so
[13:54] <johnny> gui?
[13:56] <johnny> don't look like it to me.
[15:46] <Vaajd1> ok im about to throw my computer out my window
[15:47] <Vaajd1> it keeps freezing and i cant use ctrl + alt + backspace
[16:00] <daishujin> is it a thin client?
[16:00] <Vaajd1> huh
[16:01] <Vaajd1> im a noob
[16:02] <daishujin> Vaajd1, did you install the desktop version of Edubuntu, or the thinclient classroom server
[16:02] <Vaajd1> unbuntu 7.04
[16:02] <daishujin> ok
[16:02] <Vaajd1> #ubuntu would help
[16:02] <Vaajd1> wounldnt
[16:03] <daishujin> ok
[16:03] <daishujin> do you know how to check your logs?
[16:04] <daishujin> and how long after booting does it take for the computer to freeze?
[16:05] <Vaajd1> it if i open firefox
[16:05] <daishujin> hmmmm
[16:05] <Vaajd1> and i dont know how to check logs but i have to reboot every time
[16:06] <daishujin> do you know how much RAM your computer has?
[16:06] <Vaajd1> 1.5 gigs
[16:06] <Vaajd1> cpu is 2.0 and overclocked to 2.3
[16:07] <daishujin> ok, and what kind of video card do you have?
[16:07] <Vaajd1> 256mb ati readion x85pro
[16:07] <Vaajd1> 850*
[16:07] <daishujin> ok
[16:08] <Vaajd1> im trying to upgrade to 7.10 to see if that will fix it
[16:08] <daishujin> is the computer that is crashing, the one you are talking from now?
[16:08] <Vaajd1> yeah
[16:09] <daishujin> can you open up a terminal?
[16:09] <Vaajd1> yea
[16:11] <daishujin> ok now try typing 'less /var/log/messages' and maybe send them in a /msg so as not to spam the channel
[16:12] <Vaajd1> did u get my msg
[16:12] <daishujin> actually, on second thought maybe 'tail /var/log/messages' might be better
[16:12] <daishujin> no
[16:13] <Vaajd1> how do i register my nick
[16:13] <daishujin> you use nickserv '/msg nickserv register yourpass'
[17:45] <lovemedo> edubuntu rocks!
[17:50] <lns> woooooooooo!! Nautilus sighandler bug is fixed and in repos! =) Happy day!
[22:42] <grezer> Nouroxx its asking this question Please enter the IP address of the ISPConfig web
[22:42] <grezer> ok now I have a question I am installing ISPCONFIG AHHH and its asking me for " Please enter the IP address of the ISPConfig web "
[22:43] <grezer> Nouroxx its asking this question Please enter the IP address of the ISPConfig web
[22:43] <grezer> is that the IP address for my server or my router ??
[22:44] <grezer> exit
[22:44] <grezer> exit


[08:45] <lissyx> "launch failed: Unable to find an image matching "core20". Please use `multipass find` for supported remotes and images." when, trying to "snap run snapcraft" to build a snap
[08:45] <lissyx> on debian/sid with snapd/multipass uptodate and installed, arm64 hw (google cloud T2A instance)
[08:45] <lissyx> "multipass find core20" returns nothing, but my working build machine on debian/sid amd64 at home behave as well
[08:57] <lissyx> indeed there's a snapcraft:core20 on my amd64 desktop host and I dont see that on the arm64 host
[08:57] <lissyx> but I can't find what I need to do to get it, there's no doc about that?
[08:57] <lissyx> also all references to that problem I can find are old (early 2020) and refers to missing features of multipass that have been fixed since, or either instruct to avoid cross-compilation
[08:58] <lissyx> which is exactly what I'm doing trying to build on arm64 hardware.


[03:00] <guiverc> I've been rejecting (apport-collect or incomplete) old bug reports; I'm not to treat https://launchpad.net/~whoopsie-daisy-bug-bridge any different am I?
[03:01]  * guiverc apport-collect when it's really old & few details thus appropriate, marked incomplete as well (EOL message for incomplete in prior comment)
[05:42] <guiverc> I just failed a QA-test, failure is not related to install though; http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/413/builds/220765/testcases/1701/results/  but weird video issue with `sddm`; it'll need review as maybe note in release notes maybe warranted (or something, will explore some more as I can) https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1895905
 @kc2bez [https://github.com/wimpysworld/desktopify], oooh. Noice!
 @kc2bez [yes but SDDM doesn't seem to work on the pi], yeah I was wondering why sddm didn't work.