[21:14] <scorch_> an1 have 8.04 and have tried the pidgin update that just came down a little bit ago?
[21:15] <deus> Gah, dont you hate downloading a package and cant find the fucking binary
[21:15] <amenado> axel-> that does not mean you have to have a dvd...would you like to have your internet access working first?
[21:15] <scorch_> pidgin does not work for me anymore
[21:15] <Fryguy--> scorch_: "does not work" doesn't mean anything to us
[21:15] <scorch_> pidgin:
[21:15] <scorch_>  Depends: libpurple0 but it is not going to be installed
[21:15] <scorch_>   Depends: pidgin-data (<1:2.4.1-z) but 1:2.4.3-0ubuntu1~hardy1 is to be installed
[21:15] <kevinmcq> Nikilos: are you using wireless right now?
[21:15] <Chad2408m> fryguy: okay, but how would I connect them so they can talk to each other and share files (both computers run ubuntu 8.04)
[21:15] <scorch_> sypatic uninstalled pidgin
[21:15] <Nikilos> kevinmcq: No, I am using a wired connection at the moment
[21:16] <Fryguy--> Chad2408m: if they are both *nix machines, I'd recommend setting up nfs.  It's going to be faster and easier to deal with
[21:16] <scorch_> then when I go back to install it gave me that
[21:16] <amenado> noelferreira-> you can disable it from xorg.conf
[21:16] <Chad2408m> okay, do i just download it through synaptic?
[21:16] <Nikilos> kevinmcq: I'm on an Inspiron 1525, if that would help at all
[21:16] <scorch_> pidgin:
[21:16] <scorch_>  Depends: libpurple0 but it is not going to be installed
[21:16] <scorch_>   Depends: pidgin-data (<1:2.4.1-z) but 1:2.4.3-0ubuntu1~hardy1 is to be installed              any ideas?
[21:16] <axel> amenado: you forget that broadband connections are not available everywhere.
[21:16] <Fryguy--> scorch_: have you done a full update of your local repository list?
[21:17] <scorch_> Fryguy:  i think...  how do i make sure
[21:17] <blockhd> hi
[21:17] <blockhd> i have problem
[21:17] <blockhd> ..
[21:17] <Fryguy--> scorch_: command line, sudo apt-get update
[21:17] <amenado> axel right, so you would like download everything? do you have a current linux installed?
[21:17] <Fryguy--> !enter | blockhd
[21:17] <blockhd> i downloaded the drivers for graphic card and enabled it. i knwo about enter, sorry. but it says its not in use and i cant enable desktop effects
[21:17] <Chad2408m> fryguy: okay, do i just download it through synaptic?
[21:17] <teckan> my installation of ubuntu doesn't pass by the 94% (configuring hardware...), but the computer does not stop responding (there is no kernel panic). is there any way to disable "hardware configuration" at installation, so that it goes straight to grub instaling after copying files? i have reinstalled it a dozen times now and I am getting desperate! please help me out. (i have it on right now, stopped at 94%; i am writing from my laptop)
[21:17] <Fryguy--> Chad2408m: pretty much, a google for "ubuntu nfs" the top 2 results are pretty detailed at getting you set up
[21:18] <Chad2408m> fryguy: okay, thanks!
[21:18] <Nikilos> kevinmcq: Before the updates, under Hardware Drivers, I remember seeing one driver that was in use in the list, but now under "Status," it says it is not in use anymore
[21:18] <spaceninja> is ubuntu-server any good?
[21:18] <teckan> (similar problem: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-589805.html)
[21:18] <Mr_Bad_News> my wireless card keeps dying
[21:18] <Fryguy--> spaceninja: good by what metric?
[21:18] <scorch_> fryguy: i did it then got this:  E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[21:18] <scorch_> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[21:18] <Mr_Bad_News> does anyone know how to fix this
[21:18] <Fryguy--> scorch_: close the gui
[21:18] <karenw> Fryguy--: Found a nice simple CD player in Synaptics - Simple but works good - "goobox"... Passing along if not known.
[21:19] <spaceninja> Fryguy--: As in being minimalistic and not being file bloated, not having preinstalled server daemons and stuff
[21:19] <Fryguy--> spaceninja: I guess it fairs ok
[21:19] <Fryguy--> spaceninja: certainly not my first choice for a server OS
[21:19] <Karsynoma> I've got the same question as last night, so here goes. The recent 3d release of RuneScape utilizes OpenGL, which I know my video card can handle, but upon loading up the game, the screen ceases to update itself unless my mouse is moving around on the applet. I far exceed the minimum requirements, and my ATI drivers are installed, but I've no idea what would cause this particular issues. More details will follow afte
[21:19] <Karsynoma> r a response.
[21:19] <scorch_> fryguy: ok did it...  what now?
[21:19] <Fryguy--> scorch_: try installing pidgin again
[21:20] <Fryguy--> scorch_: also try installing each of those packages that get mentioned manually (install pidgin-data first)
[21:20] <Fryguy--> Karsynoma: glxinfo | grep -i direct
[21:20] <Fryguy--> Karsynoma: are you using direct rendering?
[21:20] <kevinmcq> Nikilos: i suggest getting help from a ubuntu support person, they can walk you through the steps to figure out whats wrong
[21:20] <scorch_> Fryguy:     pidgin:
[21:20] <scorch_>  Depends: libpurple0 but it is not going to be installed
[21:20] <scorch_>   Depends: pidgin-data (<1:2.4.1-z) but 1:2.4.3-0ubuntu1~hardy1 is to be installed
[21:20] <spaceninja> Fryguy--: Which distributions would you prefer using with a server then
[21:20] <dashgr> hi, how do i enable java in my browser?
[21:20] <geek_inn2> xrandr say my monitor supports 800*600 but flickrs when i change it why
[21:21] <Nikilos> kevinmcq: Alright, thanks
[21:21] <MrLinux> Fryguy-- : I did what says the in the forum, but my friend tell me that "unable to connect to host : connection refuzed (111)"
[21:21] <Fryguy--> spaceninja: freebsd is my primary choice for servers
[21:21] <Karsynoma> Fryguy--: direct rendering: Yes
[21:21] <Juozapas> Fryguy--: i agree with u
[21:21] <spaceninja> Fryguy--: I tried to install it, but it can't even handle my hard drive, their kernel seems to suck
[21:21] <Fryguy--> spaceninja: i'm sure that's not the case
[21:22] <spaceninja> I couldn't fdisk it
[21:22] <spaceninja> from the installation cd
[21:22] <Fryguy--> spaceninja: if you don't like my recommendation, you are free to ignore it.
[21:22] <geek_inn2> bullet proof x?
[21:22] <spaceninja> Fryguy--: I want to use it, but I can't :)
[21:22] <axel> amenado: I have. I thought I just did not find the Link on the Ubuntu Page. I don't need it sooooo eager. But thanks for your help.
[21:22] <Fryguy--> spaceninja: so go bug #freebsd people, and make sure you read the handbook before asking questions.  They are far less tolerant of stupid questions than #ubuntu is
[21:23] <spaceninja> Fryguy--: I went with crux instead, but I wanted ruby on rails, but there's no officiall ports for it
[21:23] <spaceninja> -s
[21:23] <Fryguy--> spaceninja: as it is, we are pretty offtopic for this channel, you asked for a recommendation, and I gave it
[21:23] <MrLinux> Fryguy-- : I did what says the in the forum, but my friend tell me that "unable to connect to host : connection refuzed (111)"
[21:23] <Fryguy--> !repeat | MrLinux
[21:24] <Karsynoma> Fryguy--: so, any follow-up tips? Direct rendering is enabled.
[21:24] <Fryguy--> MrLinux: are you using a router?
[21:24] <Fryguy--> Karsynoma: no
[21:24] <spaceninja> Fryguy--: thanks for the recommendation :)
[21:24] <scorch_>   Depends: pidgin-data (<1:2.4.1-z) but 1:2.4.3-0ubuntu1~hardy1 is to be installed
[21:24] <MrLinux> Fryguy-- : Yes, tell me what port showl I enable
[21:24] <Fryguy--> MrLinux: 5900
[21:24] <Karsynoma> Fryguy--: thanks anyway, could have said something and not kept me hanging. =P
[21:24] <Fryguy--> Karsynoma: i could have, i'm also responding to 5-6 other people...
[21:24] <MrLinux> Fryguy-- : That port is open
[21:25] <Karsynoma> Fryguy--: I'm aware of that. Thanks anyway.
[21:25] <will02> fryguy-- i tried a reboot on a whim and i could retrieve the data off the share for a while and then it suddenly stopped
[21:26] <Fryguy--> MrLinux: are you forwarding it to the correct machine?
[21:26] <MrLinux> Fryguy-- : Yes
[21:26] <Fryguy--> MrLinux: what IP is vnc listening on?
[21:27] <MrLinux> Fryguy-- : My external IP ? or local one
[21:27] <Fryguy--> MrLinux: what did you configure vnc to listen on?
[21:27] <scorch_> Fryguy: libpurple0:
[21:27] <scorch_>   Depends: pidgin-data (<1:2.4.1-z) but 1:2.4.3-0ubuntu1~hardy1 is to be installed
[21:27] <Cyndrework> anyone know of a good open proxy scanning site?
[21:27] <Fryguy--> scorch_: you don't need to paste it over and over again
[21:27] <MrLinux> Fryguy-- : Local
[21:27] <Fryguy--> Cyndrework: nmap works
[21:27] <Fryguy--> MrLinux: that's the problem
[21:27] <scorch_> Fry guy/: sorry
[21:28] <Cyndrework> Fryguy: need one from outside the network
[21:28] <MrLinux> Fryguy-- : I did like there says
[21:28] <Fryguy--> MrLinux: you need to be listening on the correct IP interface (or just bind it to listen on <IP_ADDRESS>, which will bind it to all open interfaces)
[21:28] <MrLinux> In the forum
[21:28] <Fryguy--> scorch_: were you using getdeb.net's package before or something?
[21:29] <scorch_> fryguy: no
[21:29] <shesek> I can't get LCDd to work (no errors, it just doesn't display what it should). when I echo xx > /dev/lcd0 I do see it. how can I find the problem?
[21:29] <Fryguy--> scorch_: what happens if you apt-get remove pidgin pidgin-data libpurple0  and then apt-get install pidgin
[21:29] <scorch_> fryguy: let me try
[21:30] <scorch_> Fryguy: The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[21:30] <scorch_>   pidgin: Depends: libpurple0 (>= 1:2.4.1-1ubuntu2.1) but it is not going to be installed
[21:30] <scorch_>           Depends: pidgin-data (< 1:2.4.1-z) but 1:2.4.3-0ubuntu1~hardy1 is to be installed
[21:30] <scorch_> E: Broken packages
[21:30] <FloodBot1> scorch_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:31] <Fryguy--> scorch_: then apparently there is a problem with the repository, you'll have to wait for a fix to become available
[21:31] <Fryguy--> scorch_: in the meantime maybe use the getdeb.net package
[21:31] <TimMatrix> How do I tell whether my Hardy Heron version is 8.04 or 8.04.1?
[21:31] <scorch_> fryguy: how?
[21:32] <Fryguy--> scorch_: getdeb.net, download it, double click....
[21:32] <scorch_> Fryguy ok thanks
[21:32] <teckan> (my internet connection is buggying; anyone answered me?)
[21:32] <landster> hello can anyone help with editing this menu.lst so my install to a memory card will boot http://pastebin.com/m378a5810 i am uncertain where i am supposed to edit the lines mentioned in the wiki
[21:32] <geek_inn2> fryguy: can we change from Xrandr
[21:33] <Fryguy--> geek_inn2: no idea
[21:33] <TimMatrix> How do I tell whether my Hardy Heron version is 8.04 or 8.04.1?
[21:33] <xeer> is there a way to hide the video screen from mplayer?
[21:33] <Fryguy--> !repeat | TimMatrix
[21:33] <Fryguy--> xeer: yes, check out the command line options for mplayer.  'man mplayer' is going to highly all of the command line options available to you
[21:33] <Fryguy--> highlight*
[21:34] <Fryguy--> xeer: try something like mplayer -vo null sourcefile.mp4
[21:34] <scorch_> Fry GuyFryGUy:  ALl theygot is the 32 bit?
[21:34] <TimMatrix> I tried to look it up using System Monitor, but it shows 8.04.   Is this sufficient, or is there a terminal version that tells you the precise release number?
[21:34] <Fryguy--> scorch_: no idea
[21:34] <Fryguy--> TimMatrix: no idea
[21:35] <TimMatrix> Fryguy--: Okay, not to worry.
[21:35] <geek_inn2> fryguy: x server when will it become bullet proof?
[21:35] <Fryguy--> geek_inn2: what?
[21:36] <bloodrock> TimMatrix, you could look in /boot/grub/menu.lst
[21:36] <ElPando> when will anything pc become bullet proof?
[21:36] <geek_inn2> i mean x server that handles screen resolution,when will it become solid unbreakable
[21:36] <TimMatrix> okay, thanks
[21:36] <xeer> Fryguy--, yes the null option is possible, but it removes the GUI which is what I want to keep.
[21:36] <Curtis> anyone need help with the rtl8187b wireless card?
[21:37] <eftex> hi there
[21:37] <eftex> i am using a dark theme on my gnome desktop
[21:37] <eftex> and when using it the symbols in open-office disappear
[21:37] <Fryguy--> xeer: i'm pretty sure mplayer guis don't support displaying player controls without the video window
[21:37] <eftex> i can only see the text then :(
[21:37] <TimMatrix> bloodrock: Hmmm, it only shows 8.04, not the latest 8.04.1
[21:37] <Rabble_Leader> #postfix
[21:38] <Fryguy--> TimMatrix: from all of the documentation i'm reading on ubuntu's website and wiki, it's will be part of standard update manager, and is not distribution upgrade
[21:38] <wintermyoot> Can somebody help me? Mysql service won't start.
[21:38] <_2> can someone sujest to me why "mount /dev/sda /media" might hang ?
[21:38] <Fryguy--> wintermyoot: need an error message
[21:38] <Fryguy--> _2: mount to a subdirectory of media, not media directly
[21:38] <perlsyntax_> Boy there alot of perl  tools for ubuntu
[21:39] <perlsyntax_> :)
[21:39] <enos_> Philosophy Question: Why the heck is it that computers dont always act the same? Meaning that while something may work for me, it may not necessarily work for you, assuming we have identical specifications. For example, installing software sometimes we'll say, "let's hope this works" or "give a try it might work". If computers really are "scientific" why the heck are we praying all the time about our software?
[21:39] <deekayen> Fryguy--: re my 10 second session logging into x, does it help to know apache2 and gnome-session are segfaulting in dmesg?
[21:39] <bloodrock> TimMatrix, do you have auto update set
[21:39] <_2> Fryguy-- no that's not the problem.   media is empty and i don't normally use it anyway
[21:39] <Fryguy--> enos_: because there are an extraordinary set of variables that go into the operation of a computer
[21:39] <_2> anyone else ?
[21:39] <JonathanD> enos_: people write software
[21:39] <JonathanD> and people are fail
[21:39] <wintermyoot> after I type 'service mysql start'
[21:40] <Fryguy--> deekayen: yes it does.  are you running an overclocked system or anything
[21:40] <wintermyoot> *Starting MySQL database server mysqld
[21:40] <wintermyoot> leads to [fail]
[21:40] <Fryguy--> _2: that is the problem, mount to a subdirectory of media
[21:40] <_2> Fryguy-- no it's not.
[21:40] <deekayen> Fryguy--: no, but I did turn on ssl in apache2
[21:40] <kenan> Hi, I am trying to empty my trash bin that contains a bunch of folders and it says I can't because permission is denied. However, when these folders were on my desktop I did chmod 777 so that I could move them to the trash bin and that worked fine, so how do I get permission to completely delete them now?
[21:40] <deekayen> didn't think that would matter to gnome-session though
[21:40] <Curtis> anyone have an rtl8187b wireless card?
[21:40] <CaT_MaNZz> hello all, i have problem with my PIDGIN, what kind of IM i should you for icq on ubuntu
[21:40] <__yy> enos_: two machines having identical specifications is quite a bit rarer than you probably think
[21:40] <ariel_> TimMatrix, try this in a terminal: cat /etc/lsb-release
[21:40] <Fryguy--> deekayen: so stop apache (/etc/init.d/apache stop or something), and try this again
[21:41] <Fryguy--> kenan: what is the output of "ls -ld ~/.share/local/Trash"
[21:41] <enos_> __yy: that tells me you have little experience in the business world; I work for bank, all the computer there have identical specifications.
[21:41] <Fryguy--> CaT_MaNZz: the latest version of pidgin works with icq
[21:41] <enos_> computers*
[21:41] <_2> can someone sujest to me why "mount /dev/sda /media" might hang ?
[21:41] <CaT_MaNZz> no its not working
[21:42] <bloodrock> TimMatrix, what you could do is open system.admin.update manager click on check if it shows no updates
[21:42] <Fryguy--> _2: I just told you, it's hanging because you need to mount to a subdirectory
[21:42] <_2> can someone sujest to me why "mount /dev/sda /media/sda" might hang ?
[21:42] <ariel_> CaT_MaNZz, also meebo  works fine for icq if you don't want the actual client installed on your system.
[21:42] <TimMatrix> ariel_: Thanks, it shows that the distrib_Description="Ubuntu 8.04.1"
[21:42] <_2> Fryguy-- but you are wrong.
[21:42] <TimMatrix> cheers
[21:42] <kenan> Frygyt--: ls: cannot access /home/kenan/.share/local/Trash: No such file or directory
[21:42] <Fryguy--> _2: various services keep an eye on the contents of /media, so if you drop a bunch of stuff into /media they are going to hang
[21:42] <Fryguy--> kenan: whoops, maybe it's ~/.local/share/Trash
[21:42] <ariel_> TimMatrix, any time.
[21:42] <CaT_MaNZz> ive downloaded lastes version, Pidgin 2.4.3 and it is said to me 'your version is too old'
[21:42] <deekayen> Fryguy--: stopping apache still doesn't fix my x 10 second session
[21:42] <_2> Fryguy-- there is nothing running.
[21:42] <Fryguy--> _2: why don't you go ahead and try my solution instead of just assuming it won't work?
[21:43] <bloodrock> TimMatrix,  you should have been auto updated to 8.04.1 then been sending updates this month like chickens with hjeads cut off lol
[21:43] <_2> Fryguy-- so you can learn.   ok.   tty23<EMAIL_ADDRESS>mount /dev/sda /media/sda
[21:43] <_2> and it's hung.
[21:43] <kenan> Fryguy--: drwx------ 4 kenan kenan 4096 2008-04-24 16:09 /home/kenan/.local/share/Trash
[21:43] <deekayen> Fryguy--: xfce is giving me the same box, only it's saying update-manager and something else are segfaulting because of gnome-session
[21:43] <Fryguy--> deekayen: sorry, I don't know
[21:43] <_2> Fryguy-- i'm not stupid, and i'm not a n00b   it's not the mountpoint.
[21:43] <Bullitje> simple question
[21:44] <Bullitje> how to copy with sudo ?
[21:44] <bloodrock> TimMatrix, they also released a iso of 8.04.1 on distrowatch.com
[21:44] <Fryguy--> _2: oh, wait, why are you mounting an entire drive?  you can only mount a partition
[21:44] <shesek> Bullitje, sudo cp <from> <to> ?
[21:44] <wintermyoot> Does anyone else have problems starting mysql on server?
[21:44] <_2> Fryguy-- cause it's a camera
[21:44] <Fryguy--> _2: mount /dev/sda1 (or 2, whatever you have, use cfdisk to see)
[21:44] <Bullitje> thx shesek
[21:44] <yakobmatrix> anyone can give me ubuntu mailing list?
[21:44] <_2> Fryguy-- there is no sda1
[21:44] <_2> it's not partitioned
[21:44] <Fryguy--> _2: so? it still has partitions, you can't mount an entire drive, you can only mount a partition
[21:44] <_2> no
[21:44] <Fryguy--> _2: it needs to be
[21:44] <_2> no
[21:45] <TimMatrix> bloodrock: I always update it as and when it becomes available.  THing is that when I look up System Monitor, it shows 8.04, and my email from Ubuntu says the latest is 8.04.1, which is why I was puzzled.  But I am glad that ariel has solved my question.
[21:45] <Fryguy--> _2: /dev/sda is a block level device, it needs partitions to mount as a usb mass storage device
[21:45] <_2> Fryguy-- i dont even have a partition on my /dev/hda
[21:45] <bloodrock> also can get iso of 8.04.1 at unbuntu.com
[21:45] <kenan> Fryguy--: drwx------ 4 kenan kenan 4096 2008-04-24 16:09 /home/kenan/.local/share/Trash
[21:45] <_2> and it's mounted on /home
[21:45] <yakobmatrix> does anyone know any ubuntu maliling list? I'd like to join
[21:45] <Fryguy--> _2: /dev/hda isn't being used anymore, it was obsoleted a few kernel versions ago
[21:45] <_2> Fryguy-- it's mounted on /home
[21:45] <Fryguy--> kenan: i saw it the first time, I don't know what the problem is
[21:45] <TimMatrix> bloodrock: I agree, but why download 700Mb, when I can get it upgraded via Synaptic Manager>?
[21:45] <Fryguy--> _2: pastebin the output of df
[21:45] <_2> Fryguy-- ;/
[21:46] <kenan> Hi, I am trying to empty my trash bin that contains a bunch of folders and it says I can't because permission is denied. However, when these folders were on my desktop I did chmod 777 so that I could move them to the trash bin and that worked fine, so how do I get permission to completely delete them now?
[21:46] <_2> Fryguy-- here http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/?show=d3682aa14
[21:46] <_2> now stop being a jerk
[21:46] <Fryguy--> _2: not being a jerk, i'm trying to help you find the problem
[21:46] <Fryguy--> _2: I don't know the solution
[21:46] <Redian> Hey, could someone give me some assistance with configuring vmwareplayer for  use on xubuntu? the xubuntu channel seems to be dead, otherwise I'd ask there...
[21:46] <bloodrock> timMthats for sure
[21:46] <Fryguy--> _2: and i don't want to bother helping you find it anymore.  Sorry I couldn't help you, have a nice day
[21:47] <Bullitje> shesek question continuing, what is the command for creating a directory ?
[21:47] <_2> Fryguy-- yeank you.
[21:47] <_2> thank
[21:47] <Fryguy--> Bullitje: mkdir
[21:47] <Bullitje> thx
[21:47] <aman> hey how creative cam work ubuntu
[21:47] <bloodrock> TimMatrix, was just telling in case ya didnt know i'm slow lol
[21:47] <unop> kenan, sudo rm -rf ~/.local/share/Trash/*
[21:48] <TimMatrix> bloodrock: lol, no worries, thanks for the help.
[21:48] <acp_> kenan: can you do ls -al and paste one sample of the file that you want to delete?
[21:48] <Fryguy--> unop: does ~ work with sudo?  it doesn't assume a login shell?
[21:48] <Bullitje> is there also a way to be root for a few minutes
[21:48] <Bullitje> without constantly using sudo
[21:48] <bloodrock> TimMatrix, i tried out the 8.10 it's a mess lol
[21:48] <ariel_> you can always login via terminal with sudo -s
[21:48] <Bullitje> just doing it graphical noo bway
[21:48] <Redian> Bullitje: su
[21:48] <_2> for the record.   i have never seen mount just hang like this befor.   i can't even kill -9 the process it's fully hung but doesn't seem to be affecting the rest of the system.
[21:48] <Fryguy--> Bullitje: 'sudo su' will make you be root until you close that terminal
[21:48] <unop> Fryguy--, you have to understand that all globbing and expansion is done before bash passes the command line to sudo -- so  ~ works fine there
[21:48] <kenan> unop: ah thank you, that did it
[21:48] <TimMatrix> 8.10?  It ain't even released yet!?
[21:49] <aman> hey how install creative cam
[21:49] <erUSUL> !rootshell | Fryguy-- Bullitje
[21:49] <TimMatrix> bloodrock: It's supposed to be released in October
[21:49] <Redian> TimMatrix: It's released in october. 8 is the year, 10 is the month
[21:49] <bloodrock> timM can get it if ya go to distrowatch.com or ubuntu development
[21:49] <TimMatrix> bloodrock: Yeah, but surely you meant 7.10?
[21:49] <bloodrock> TimMatrix,  no 8.10
[21:49] <Bullitje> k erusul
[21:49] <Redian> TimMatrix: XD sorry, didn't realize that you weren't asking a question XD
[21:50] <Bullitje> but i need to graphical move and create some directorys
[21:50] <teckan> I am currently reinstalling (for the 101010101th time) ubuntu in my desktop with tail -f syslog in the background. is the warning "warnings.warn("apt API not stable yet", FutureWarning)" for me to bother with? is it uncommon for it to show up? thnks in advance for your help.
[21:50] <Sa1> hi guys .... I installed gfxboot to put up a graphic boot menu and alter the splash screens etc... Unfortunately now one of my windows drive is not getting mounted/detected... that's the drive with a lot of data in it .. I guess I messed up with the grub-install command... Please help me in this... I can't afford to lose that data
[21:50] <geek_inn2> sa1
[21:50] <Fryguy--> Sa1: so just restore it from the backup that you should have (especially if it's data you can't afford to lose
[21:50] <Sa1> hi
[21:51] <geek_inn2> first what u want proitize like ubuntu or data....then tell me
[21:51] <Sa1> sorry mate I am new to Ubuntu and Linux... I haven't done that kinda groundwork yet
[21:51] <bastid_raZor> !mount > Sa1
[21:51] <Fryguy--> Sa1: you didn't make any backups of the data when you were in windows?
[21:51] <Sa1> nope
[21:51] <myr> my fresh hardy install takes a long time to boot, stalling on "waiting for root file system". help please?
[21:51] <Fryguy--> nice
[21:52] <bastid_raZor> Sa1; sounds like you just need to mount it. read the pm from ubottu and you will be fine.
[21:52] <geek_inn2> myr it doesnt mount the root part or it will be missing entry in brub
[21:53] <bloodrock> sal you could try getting supergrub  it's a small iso that can fix grub and windows boot loaders
[21:53] <TimMatrix> bloodrock: Okay, but I wouldn't try 8.10 as it'd be highly experimental at this stage.  Granted that it does have the stability of 8.04, but some experimental system programs or the like in this 8.10 version aren't fully tested, hence the term "development".
[21:53] <myr> geek_inn2, it boots, just slowly
[21:53] <Bullitje> root@ws-sonnie:~# cp /media/disk-1/boot /media/disk-2/boot
[21:53] <Bullitje> cp: map ‘/media/disk-1/boot’ wordt overgeslagen
[21:53] <Bullitje> whuts wrong :S
[21:54] <Fryguy--> 8.10 will be ready in october (hence the 10), if you'd like to help out with the development of it and experiment with it right now, go ahead, but don't expect it to be stable or usable at all, and don't be surprised if various aspects of it cause data loss on the system you are using it on (unlikely, but possible)
[21:54] <Sa1> bastid Razor... can u help me?
[21:55] <TimZ1m>  i cant login anymore, if i click on jabber and select any status, nothing happenssame with the icq symbol nobody answers in #kopete
[21:55] <Fryguy--> Sa1: you've already been helped, check out pm, what is the problem now
[21:55] <uberspaced> have people been complaining about crappy performance in firefox?
[21:55] <uberspaced> just updated it, man, it just sucks compared to how it used to be
[21:55] <uberspaced> are there any bells and whistles that I can shut off on the thing?
[21:56] <Bullitje> how to logout sudo ?
[21:56] <Sa1> i did fdisk -l and the mount ... it doesn't seem to work
[21:56] <Fryguy--> uberspaced: my firefox 3 runs fine
[21:56] <Fryguy--> Bullitje: just close the terminal
[21:56] <TimZ1m>  i cant login with kopete anymore, if i click on jabber and select any status, nothing happenssame with the icq symbol nobody answers in #kopete
[21:56] <Sa1> when i went into windows and tried to access the  drive it says it's not yet formatted
[21:56] <ElPando> i had a major problem with ff a while back during flash movie playback
[21:56] <Fryguy--> !repeat | TimZ1m
[21:56] <unop> Bullitje, you need -r to cp if you are copying directories
[21:56] <teckan> is it possible to install ubuntu from the command line? i would like to see more output about the installation. i am getting mad about this.
[21:56] <unop> Bullitje, cp -rv  /media/disk-1/boot /media/disk-2/boot
[21:56] <jeeves__> is anyone here good with evoulition e-mail?  I'm having issues with making rules and having it actully sort my mail for me
[21:56] <Fryguy--> teckan: the alternative installation disk provides a variety of options for doing things like that
[21:56] <unop> Bullitje, and you might need to use sudo there - depending on permissions
[21:56] <Fryguy--> jeeves__: as i pointed out before, irc.gnome.org #evolution
[21:57] <gabbler> teckan: have you tried the alternat cd?
[21:57] <teckan> gabbler, i just have the official cd sent to me by postal mail.
[21:57] <unop> teckan, the best way would be to install the base with the minimal CD - and then use apt-get to install the rest
[21:57] <Bullitje> k thanks guys
[21:57] <xeer> How can I keep the mplayer gui while turning off the visualizations to slim it down a bit
[21:57] <Bullitje> but what was that -rv needed for ?
[21:57] <jeeves__> Fryguy--, yea, I know.  I've even looked on the Gnome page, and the server name dosn't exist for IRC client connection.  Hence why I'm back here
[21:57] <starbucki> hi all, does somebody have problems with pidgin icq?
[21:57] <gabbler> teckan: why do you want to install via cli?
[21:57] <unop> Bullitje, have a look at the cp manpage.  man cp
[21:58] <Fryguy--> starbucki: there's an update out, and if you don't see it in hardy yet, check out getdeb.net for the update
[21:58] <starbucki> thx a lot!!
[21:58] <teckan> gabbler, i was wondering if it shows up anything else than a dialog and a progress bar that hangs at 94%.
[21:59] <mousey> installing unionfs via git downgrades my kernel. Can someone help?
[21:59] <gabbler> teckan: ah i see, i did have a similar problem, and it turned out to be a problem with downloading updates from the web
[21:59] <Sa1> hi guys .... Anybody strong with Grub and GFXBOOT? I installed gfxboot to put up a graphic boot menu and alter the splash screens etc... Unfortunately now one of my windows drive is not getting mounted/detected... that's the drive with a lot of data in it .. I guess I messed up with the grub-install command... Please help me in this...
[21:59] <teckan> i have never had anything so awkward. syslog does not show anything suspicious, and it is hung at 94% anyway.
[21:59] <Fryguy--> mousey: you'll have to explain a bit more how you are downgrading your kernel by installing an outside package
[21:59] <jeeves__> Fryguy--, I made the rules, and insted of it aplying it to the folder, it's only moving the SINGLE msg, and it's not auto filtering
[22:00] <Fryguy--> Sa1: you need a data recovery professional at this point, as it sounds like you hosed your drive
[22:00] <teckan> gabbler, how do I desactivate it? just unplugg the ethernet cable? isnt there a clean way of doing it.
[22:00] <gabbler> sa1: have you tried manually mounting it as grub does n't really do that,/ect/fstab does
[22:00] <teckan> (i am so bored that my mum and dad refuse themselves to use gentoo)
[22:00] <krim> I'm using mplayer-nogui version: 2:1.0~rc2-0ubuntu13+medibuntu1 on Ubuntu 8.04 64bit and the last two movies I've watched (.mkv x264 720p) have started lagging after a while and when looking at the process in System Monitor I see that it's using a lot of memory. Last time it happened it was using 800 megabytes, before that 1.2 gigabytes. I had to end the process and start the movie again to be able to continue watching. What could the pro
[22:00] <fernandos> I probably missed the answer to a question, is there a log of this conversation today?
[22:00] <Bullitje> and here comes another1
[22:00] <Bullitje> what is the command for deleting with sudo ?
[22:00] <teckan> rm
[22:01] <mousey> first I did: git clone git://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux-2.6.git then I did git pull git://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/ezk/unionfs.git linux-2.6
[22:01] <unop> teckan, it is possible that your installation source (CD-ROM) is corrupt
[22:01] <gabbler> teckan: depends on what the problem is, i found one way to fix it was to open a bash shell and do a constant ping during the install, to guarantee the link never went down
[22:01] <Fryguy--> krim: memory leak in that version of mplayer probably
[22:01] <branstrom> krim: use the gl mode, and read the man page... experiment with the options
[22:01] <unop> fernandos, what was the question ?
[22:01] <teckan> unop, the md5sum says it is perfect.
[22:01] <gabbler> teckan: can you not download it?
[22:01] <node357> !logs | fernandos
[22:01] <Sa1> Fryguy: is there any suggestions on the data recovery softwares?
[22:01] <krim> branstrom: I'll give it a try
[22:01] <Fryguy--> Sa1: no
[22:01] <ganjaman> I got a Problem, i tried to open http://s3.global-streaming.net:7110/listen.pls  But it doesnt work with amarok, maybe a error on the system?
[22:01] <geek_inn2> firefox error -203
[22:01] <branstrom> gl mode was the fastest one for me, anyways... I have an Nvidia card
[22:01] <bloodrock> sa1 is it just a drive with files on it or it have windows os on it as well
[22:01] <geek_inn2> installing addons
[22:01] <unop> teckan, might be the CD-ROM drive at fault then (note, i said might be)
[22:01] <Sa1> Bloodrock: its just a drive
[22:02] <Sa1> the OS partition is alright ... i am able to boot into vista
[22:02] <branstrom> Sa1: read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/TestingStorageMedia
[22:02] <fernandos> the question was: can I undo installations in synaptic (not selecting everything by hand)
[22:02] <Fryguy--> fernandos: no, just pick and choose what you want to uninstall and uninstall it
[22:02] <Sa1> ok
[22:02] <teckan> unop, i agree it might be, because it is very old. however, i have no other way of installing it. and neither gentoo neither windows (argh) complain about the old cdrom drive.
[22:02] <bloodrock> did you try ntfs configuration utility? to set it to auto mount
[22:02] <branstrom> Sa1: and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DataRecovery
[22:02] <unop> fernandos, i'm afriad there is no way
[22:02] <ganjaman> 7-11 = five, the stream is a illuminati
[22:03] <fernandos> what a bummer
[22:03] <Sa1> bloodrock: i haven't done anytihng after that ... as i didnt want to mess up anything more
[22:03] <Bullitje> what is sudo command for deleting ?
[22:03] <Fryguy--> Bullitje: rm
[22:03] <unop> teckan, have a look at the !minimal CD -- install just the base system and then install the ubuntu-desktop package when done
[22:03] <Sa1> thanks branstrom
[22:03] <Bullitje> wtf
[22:03] <Bullitje> i cant delete a directory ?
[22:03] <Fryguy--> Bullitje: rmdir
[22:03] <Bullitje> aah k
[22:03] <bloodrock> sa1 another thing to try is useing a livecd
[22:04] <fernandos> or rm -R
[22:04] <Bullitje> wtf
[22:04] <unop> Bullitje, if the directory has stuff in it, you need -r again - like with cp
[22:04] <Bullitje> i cant remove the map
[22:04] <starbucki> rm -R *
[22:04] <Bullitje> it isnt empty
[22:04] <geek_inn2> installing addons i got error 203 can i know whats the problem
[22:04] <Fryguy--> Bullitje: rm -rf
[22:04] <Bullitje> aah lol k thankx
[22:04] <Sa1> yeah bloodrock ... i was thinking of that
[22:04] <geek_inn2> in firerox
[22:04] <fernandos> Bullitje, recursive
[22:04] <teckan> unop, where to download it? could i eventually put it in a usb pen? (thanks a lot for the suggestions/support)
[22:04] <Bullitje> you think ahead of my noob questions
[22:04] <Bullitje> cool
[22:04] <fernandos> lol
[22:04] <juanma> Hey guys..well my question is: i got a fresh instalation of ubuntu hardy 8.04.1..now im using firefox and most of the pages are just white..i cant see the caracters..but i can see the layout and stuff.. does any1 know what the he** is that?
[22:04] <unop> !minimal | teckan
[22:04] <naynay> Hello everyone, I had to resize my partition on my main HDD, i just took 100mb off of it, but now every time i boot, ubuntu dumps me into a recovery shell. Does anyone know how to fix this?
[22:04] <gabbler> sa1: have you tried to manually mount your drive using mount?
[22:05] <Sa1> how do you do that? using /mnt or something?
[22:05] <iceman_> hello
[22:05] <Fryguy--> naynay: any errors?
[22:05] <ganjaman> mount -t smbfs
[22:05] <ferchault> I installed Ubuntu using the alternate CD and chose to use cryptsetup and a LVM. /boot is /dev/sdb1, and /dev/sdb5 and /dev/sda are holding my data. After a reboot I don't even see grub. What shall I do?
[22:05] <geek_inn2> shud i reinstall firefox?
[22:05] <ganjaman> no
[22:05] <gabbler> sa1: sudo mount /dev/sda /mnt/windows
[22:05] <geek_inn2> installing addons i got error 203 can i know whats the problem,in firefox?
[22:05] <ganjaman> install internet explorer
[22:05] <uberspaced> which flash plugin is recommended?
[22:06] <Fryguy--> uberspaced: adobe
[22:06] <Fryguy--> geek_inn2: what plugin
[22:06] <ganjaman> i think, recommended, nothing
[22:06] <uberspaced> Fryguy--, the flashplugin-nonfree?
[22:06] <Fryguy--> uberspaced: yes
[22:06] <Sa1> Gabbler: my OS partition is fine ... the other NTFS partition with data on it is the one which is problematic
[22:06] <unop> uberspaced, yes
[22:06] <ganjaman> adobe is crap i think
[22:06] <undadecor> Fryguy--:  it's recommend?
[22:06] <naynay> Fryguy, yeah, let me look through dmesg and i'll put them on a paste site
[22:06] <Fryguy--> ganjaman: it's the reference implementation of flash, since they are the builders of it
[22:06] <gabbler> sa1: ok well mine was only example, you need to now which dev and then mount it where you want
[22:06] <unop> ganjaman, that's speculation - also offtopic
[22:06] <uberspaced> Fryguy--, after I removed that, stuff seems to run muuuch faster
[22:06] <ganjaman> yeah they are stoned , no 64bit for flash
[22:07] <uberspaced> i dunno if it just sucks or something
[22:07] <Fryguy--> ganjaman: flash runs on 64-bit just fine
[22:07] <juanma> Hey guys..well my question is: i got a fresh instalation of ubuntu hardy 8.04.1..now im using firefox and most of the pages are just white..i cant see the caracters..but i can see the layout and stuff.. does any1 know what the he** is that?
[22:07] <uberspaced> but it was causing firefox to block or something,.
[22:07] <gabbler> geek_inn2: also try epiphany browser, very good and small
[22:07] <ganjaman> yeah, it runs, but how?
[22:07] <Sa1> Gabbler: the drive in question is sda4
[22:07] <Bullitje> hmm
[22:07] <Fryguy--> ganjaman: ndiswrapper
[22:07] <Bullitje> doesnt seem to work
[22:07] <Bullitje> sonnie@ws-sonnie:~$ cp -rv /media/disk-1/boot /media/disk-2/boot
[22:07] <Bullitje> cp: kan map ‘/media/disk-2/boot/boot’ niet aanmaken: Toegang geweigerd
[22:07] <Bullitje> sonnie@ws-sonnie:~$ cp -rv /media/disk-1/boot /media/disk-2/
[22:07] <Bullitje> ‘/media/disk-1/boot/bootinst.bat’ -> ‘/media/disk-2/boot/bootinst.bat’
[22:07] <Bullitje> cp: kan het normale bestand ‘/media/disk-2/boot/bootinst.bat’ niet aanmaken: Toegang geweigerd
[22:07] <earthmeLon> Happy Fourth of July buddies!!! I'm trying to install libapache-mod-ssl and It keeps saying "Package libapache-mod-ssl is not available, but is referred to by another package." I am unable to find any information on how to resolve this problem. Anybody have any ideas?
[22:07] <FloodBot1> Bullitje: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:07] <unop> ganjaman, ia32libs
[22:07] <gabbler> sa1: and is it ntfs?
[22:07] <Sa1> sam@sam-laptop:~$ sudo mount /dev/sda4 /mnt/windows
[22:07] <Sa1> mount: mount point /mnt/windows does not exist
[22:07] <teckan> (i have got numerous lines in syslog stating: "ubuntu kernel: hdb: No disk in drive"
[22:07] <teckan> (hdb is my cdrom drive)
[22:08] <ganjaman> ia32libs, sounds like gatea20
[22:08] <Sa1> yeah it is NTFS
[22:08] <bloodrock> sa1 does the drive you are trying to get to show up in places menu??
[22:08] <marek_> jp
[22:08] <Sa1> no
[22:08] <Sa1> bloodrock: no
[22:08] <krim> branstrom: gl didn't work very well. mplayer didn't get any borders, the video was just floating on it's own and in full screen the background would flash in some places
[22:08] <phate> ciao
[22:08] <ferchault> any idea how to fix grub on secondary master?
[22:08] <gabbler> sa1: do a sudo vi /etc/fstab, do you have a reference for your drive in there
[22:08] <uberspaced> hmm.  maybe that wasn't it. it's back to sucking again.
[22:08] <bloodrock> sa1 did you look in /media
[22:08] <dashgr> hi how doi i enable java in firefox when its already installed on my system
[22:08] <Fryguy--> earthmeLon: http://www.tc.umn.edu/~brams006/selfsign_ubuntu.html
[22:08] <naynay> Fryguy--: Is there anywhere other than dmesg that would have the errors? I can't spot it in the dmesg
[22:08] <Sa1> bloodrock: yes ... it's not there
[22:09] <gabbler> dahsgr: java-plugin
[22:09] <Fryguy--> naynay: no idea
[22:09] <Sa1> what reference Gabbler?
[22:09] <dashgr> gabbler: how do add the plugin to firefox
[22:09] <fernandos> dashgr, or update-java-alternatives
[22:09] <ganjaman> i wrote java in lisp
[22:09] <unop> dashgr, install the jvm package
[22:09] <gabbler> sa1: is there a line that says /dev/sda4
[22:09] <earthmeLon> wo0t. Thanks Fryguy--. I'll just follow these instructions in stead of the other ones
[22:09] <Sa1> no it is not there
[22:09] <gabbler> dashgr: its not a firefox plugin, have you got open java or sun?
[22:10] <Sa1> infact the other windows drive which is getting mounted is also not there ... but it automounts
[22:10] <landster> sorry to ask again but can anyone help making a hardy usb install bootable, i cant see the entries mentioned in the wiki in the menu.lst "/dev/sda, rather than /dev/sdb (or /dev/sdc etc.)"
[22:10] <Fryguy--> earthmeLon: just google "ubuntu apache ssl" if you need more sites to look at
[22:10] <dashgr> gabbler: i have sun 7
[22:10] <Bullit> that kinda went wrong
[22:10] <dashgr> gabbler: open i mean
[22:10] <Fryguy--> dashgr: just install java-plugin
[22:10] <bloodrock> sa1 is it a primary pertitain or a logical partitain
[22:10] <unop> dashgr, sudo aptitude install sun-java6-jre
[22:11] <_ZeuZ_> !fixmbr
[22:11] <dashgr> unop: it says i already ahve it
[22:11] <fernandos> undoing synaptic installs -> not just my wish ;) http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com/idea/6370/
[22:11] <gabbler> dahsgr: i would install sun and the sun plugin from synaptic and uninstall open java, then firefox will reconise it
[22:11] <Fryguy--> dashgr: have you restarted firefox?
[22:11] <unop> dashgr, are you sure firefox hasn't got it loaded .. navigate to about:plugins to verify
[22:11] <dashgr> fryguy--: i have
[22:11] <Sa1> bloodrock: it's a primary partition
[22:12] <Anza> what is the best site to download amsn?
[22:12] <gabbler> sa1: here is my mount for my ntfs partition change the relevant fields
[22:12] <juice`> hello, two of my 3 disks went down at the same time, one was part of RAID1, another was just fresh disk for backup, i really doubt it is hardware issue, any ideas? http://pastebin.com/m7e7af92f <- pasted syslog logs here...
[22:12] <gabbler> sa1:
[22:12] <Fryguy--> Anza: amsn is in the ubuntu repositories
[22:12] <fernandos> gabbler, or update-java-alternatives
[22:12] <Anza> could you please give me a link?
[22:12] <fernandos> that will do it
[22:12] <dashgr> unop: it says 1.4 is enabled but my default is 1.7
[22:12] <Fryguy--> Anza: "apt-get install amsn"
[22:12] <Anza> ok
[22:12] <Sa1> bloodrock: shall i pm you my fdisk output?
[22:13] <Anza> thanks
[22:13] <bloodrock> sa1 ok so what is the partitian you are trying to mount such as /dev/sda ??
[22:13] <norman_x> hi, anybody can tell me about problems with a PNY7300GT-Graphics card with Nivida Chipset running with Ubuntu?
[22:13] <bloodrock> sure
[22:13] <Sa1> yeah Gabbler tell me
[22:13] <Fryguy--> norman_x: ask a question
[22:13] <unop> dashgr, how do you know it is 1.7 ?
[22:13] <Sa1> bloodrock: /dev/sda4
[22:13] <gabbler> sa1:/dev/sda4 /xp ntfs defaults,umask=007,gid=46 0 1
[22:13] <dashgr> unop: java -version
[22:13] <dashgr> unop: sudo aptitude install sun-java6-jre
[22:13] <norman_x> Fryguy--:  hm, I thought I had asked one?
[22:13] <dashgr> unop: oops
[22:14] <Fryguy--> norman_x: ask a question that is answerable
[22:14] <blockhd> hi.... another problem
[22:14] <Sa1> gabbler you want me to add this to my fstab?
[22:14] <dashgr> unop: java version "1.7.0"
[22:14] <the_eraser> hi does metacity support translucent borders?
[22:14] <blockhd> i installed some gstreamer plugins, so i could paly mp3 and so
[22:14] <Guilo> hi all
[22:14] <blockhd> but now, after restart, sound card isnt working
[22:14] <Guilo> i've got a problem with wine
[22:14] <geek_inn2> i tried to install adblock and others too
[22:14] <gabbler> sa1: you can or you can use the mount command with -t ntfs and the relevant option
[22:14] <geek_inn2> but it fails
[22:14] <blockhd> it says i dont have right G streamer plugin or dont have soundcard configured
[22:14] <gabbler> sa1: if you add it to fstab then mount -a
[22:14] <Guilo> ATI Technologies Inc RV350 AS [Radeon 9550] + wine 1.0 + wow = pink screen with just the sound of the game
[22:14] <fernandos> norman_x, there should be a hardware database somewhere
[22:15] <PDF_q> hi I just took a hard drive from one computer and put it inside another one and I can connect to the internet with this new one, it's most likely an error connecting to the ethernet cards mac address, how do I get the system t re-read and recreate the networking folders?
[22:15] <Sa1> gabbler my operating system is vista
[22:15] <fernandos> with supported hardware and problems etc
[22:15] <gabbler> blokhd: have you tried installing the restricted-ubuntu
[22:15] <blockhd> yes
[22:15] <Sa1> shall i go ahead and add this line which you gave to fstab?
[22:15] <blockhd> maybe this is the problem?
[22:15] <blockhd> :S
[22:15] <blockhd> it just stopped working, before restart everything was fine
[22:15] <gabbler> sa1: it doesn't matter, /xp is the mount point not the type of os, just make a dir (mkdir /vista) and then put it in the fstab
[22:16] <blockhd> no volume control gstreamer plugins and or device found
[22:16] <blockhd> thats the error when i try to open volume control
[22:16] <FAJALOU> currently i am trying to get an Airlink AWLL6070 to run on my computer, but i have tried ndiswrapper to no avail.  Will it work straight ou of the box?  or do i have to uninstall my old pci card first?
[22:16] <Sa1> ok
[22:17] <Bullit> ow to change the rights of a map
[22:17] <unop> dashgr, i think the version number listed for the browser plugin is different to the java version -- even i seem to have this discrepancy -- in any case, if you have the browser plugin loaded, java ought to work in your browser
[22:17] <norman_x> I have a Pixart Imaging, Inc. Easy Snap Snake Eye WebCam. Under Gutsy it is difficult, to install the driver, I know about. Is there anywhere a "just-install-and-use-it" driver for that webcam?
[22:17] <unop> Bullit, you forgot sudo
[22:17] <Bullit> is it even possible to change the ownership/rights of a map ?
[22:17] <Bullit> no , i mean without sudo
[22:17] <Bullit> cause im getting sick of it
[22:17] <dashgr> unop, it says its enabled but i can't see anything in java, only flash
[22:18] <Bullit> i cant use my graphical explorere
[22:18] <Bullit> only terminal
[22:18] <WebcamWonder> Bullit: gksu nautilus
[22:18] <gabbler> bullit: are you using gnome because dolphin is an alternative explorer
[22:18] <unop> Bullit, that's the way it should be, you don't want to change permissions on these files
[22:18] <dashgr> unop, i'm using iced tea 1.7, should i switch to sun
[22:19] <Bullit> uhm unop yes i do
[22:19] <unop> dashgr, ahh, yea, that could be the problem
[22:19] <Bullit> its a 2end hard disk
[22:19] <Bullit> wich is empty
[22:19] <dashgr> unop, how do i make the switch
[22:19] <Bullit> but now it is filled with a few useless files wich i had to put there with sudo
[22:19] <Bullit> and now i have to watch them with sudo ...
[22:19] <c0mrade> hiya all .. how can I install courier-authdaemon .. I get this error msg "E: Couldn't find package courier-authdaemon"
[22:19] <unop> Bullit, yes, i understand that, but you are copying system files across, these files require that you have the right permissions on them
[22:19] <dashgr> unop, i saw that there was a way to check my java installations and then switch by typing in a number
[22:19] <WebcamWonder> Bullit: To start a GUI explorer with sudo permissions, press Alt+F2 and type in gksu nautilus
[22:20] <unop> dashgr, someone mentioned using update-alternatives
[22:20] <gabbler> c0mrade: sudo apt-cache search courier
[22:20] <WebcamWonder> Bullit: This will allow you to do all that is necessary with all permissions
[22:20] <Bullit> hmm , i dont trust you webcamwonder
[22:20] <gabbler> c0mrade: and then sudo apt-get install <the package>
[22:20] <unop> WebcamWonder, not a good suggestion that - even though it addresses his problems
[22:21] <FAJALOU> how can i figure out what my wireless card's chipset is?
[22:21] <dashgr> unop, ok i made the switch just now, i'll test it
[22:21] <gabbler> bullit: can i ask what is the problem?
[22:21] <Bullit> i need sudo to acces useless files
[22:21] <WebcamWonder> unop: Yes, but temporary solution, not recommending it everyday for him :S
[22:21] <naynay> http://paste.ubuntu.com/25081/    Does anyone know how to fix that? Sorry for vague questions but im not really certain whats wrong.
[22:21] <juanma> Hello guys..well i have a question: i got a fresh instalation of ubuntu hardy 8.04.1..now im using firefox and most of the pages are just white..i cant see the caracters.they r all white...but i can see the layout and stuff.. does any1 know whats that?
[22:21] <c0mrade> gabbler: I can't find the package which I need to install ..
[22:21] <Bullit> i need sudo for that whole hd actualy
[22:21] <gabbler> c0mrade: did you do a search, what did it come back with?
[22:21] <unop> Bullit, when dealing with system files -- just use sudo -- you really should start getting used to using sudo
[22:21] <geek_inn2> sheesh bye
[22:21] <zeeqy> hi guys, i m wondering if I can connect or login to my asterisk box via ubuntu command window
[22:21] <gabbler> bullit: you could enable the su
[22:22] <dashgr> unop, still can't run java after restarting firefox
[22:22] <unop> gabbler, err no, don't suggest that
[22:22] <Bullit> but it realy are useless files , and i need to edit alot in them
[22:22] <unop> Bullit, sudo -i # to invoke a root shell
[22:22] <dashgr> unop, my java version isn't in my about:plugins
[22:22] <gabbler> unop: did you go for sun or are you still using iced tea
[22:22] <bloodrock> juanma, did you try changing the font
[22:23] <unop> dashgr, was it there when you were using iced tea?
[22:23] <unop> gabbler, i'm not the one with the java issue - dashgr is
[22:23] <Bullit> unop , i still dont got the acces to graphical change stuff
[22:23] <c0mrade> gabbler: here is result of my package search
[22:23] <__yy> is there a way to determine which device is mounted at a particular directory?
[22:23] <c0mrade> http://paste2.org/p/45107
[22:23] <gabbler> unop, dahsgr: sorry typo :)
[22:23] <unop> __yy, mount
[22:23] <dashgr> gabbler, i switcht to sun just now, and np
[22:24] <gabbler> dashgr: cool :)
[22:24] <zeeqy> hi, can i access my asterisk box from ubunyu command???..plz respond
[22:24] <juanma> bloodrock: changing the font..changing the color..del the mozilla folder..
[22:24] <dashgr> unop, th eonly plugin for my FF is Java(TM) Plug-in Blackdown-1.4.2-02 for java
[22:24] <unop> Bullit, it's not a good idea doing this, be very careful --  ALT+F2  and type in  gksu  nautilus
[22:24] <c0mrade> can I install something from http://packages.ubuntu.com/dapper/mail/courier-authdaemon to make it work ..
[22:24] <gabbler> c0mrade: is that for courier mail server?
[22:25] <c0mrade> yes
[22:25] <plik> zeeqy: I access asterisk all the time with ssh from terminal
[22:25] <bloodrock> juanma, how about uninstalling firefox and reinstalling it
[22:25] <unop> dashgr, and still no java in firefox?
[22:25] <zeeqy> jPlik: just ssh and ip?
[22:25] <juanma> bloodrock: already done dat 2
[22:25] <plik> ssh user@ip
[22:26] <bloodrock> juanma, how bout changing screen resolution
[22:26] <Xavura> Can anyone help me with the GEdit snippet plug-in :S
[22:26] <c0mrade> gabbler: any suggestions ?
[22:26] <unop> dashgr, does this site report java available?  www.java.com/en/download/installed.jsp
[22:26] <zeeqy> thanks Plik...!!
[22:26] <gabbler> c0mrade: im looking :)
[22:26] <Bullit> omfg
[22:26] <Bullit> although im pretty sure linux is secure
[22:27] <c0mrade> sorry m8 for being unpatient.. standing by :)
[22:27] <Bullit> its a pain in the ass to change stuff concerning editing rights
[22:27] <Xavura> not as secure as Internet Explorer 6
[22:27] <Xavura> lolol
[22:27] <juanma> bloodrock: screen resolution? i dont think has something to do with this problem..:S
[22:27] <yuri____> hello, i just installed solr + jetty and jetty is running. how do i access solr?
[22:27] <julio_neto> ah sim
[22:27] <Calum> Hi folks: does anyone know any magic tricks for making either a Realtek 8139 ethernet card or a Belkin rt61 based wireless card work with a default 8.04 install (only thing I've done is clobbered ipv6, uselessness that it is)
[22:27] <gabbler> c0mrade: i personally use dovecote you dont fancy that instead, i can give you a step by step install :)
[22:27] <Xavura> Does anyone know if there is a channel for help with GEdit?
[22:27] <unop> Bullit, no, it just takes getting used to
[22:28] <poningru> Xavura: whats wrong?
[22:28] <Xavura> poningru: I'm trying to make a custom snippet but I can't get it working
[22:28] <Xavura> poningru: with the code snippet plug-in thingy
[22:28] <poningru> ah... yeah no clue sorry
[22:28] <poningru> try gimp net
[22:28] <Xavura> :(
[22:28] <Xavura> hmm?
[22:28] <poningru> hold on
[22:28] <c0mrade> hmm I'm kinda following tutorial which requires .. courier but tnx anyways I'll come up with something
[22:29] <zeeqy> Plik:..no luck bro...my ip asterisk box is <IP_ADDRESS> I did ssh<EMAIL_ADDRESS>but it doesnt ask me for any password...!!!
[22:29] <gabbler> c0mrade: why do you need the authdaemon, coz in the ubuntu docs they dont use it
[22:29] <poningru> Xavura: IRC: #gedit on irc.gnome.org.
[22:29] <bloodrock> juanma, k when you adjusted fonts and/or color did you exit ff
[22:29] <Decepticon> what package in ubuntu should i get to overcome compile error: configure: error: Could not find libperl. Try --disable-perl
[22:29] <PDF_q> is there a way to reconfigure my mac address for my ethernet card without reinstalling linux?
[22:29] <Kalisto> can someone take a look at this wpa_supplicant debug output?: http://rafb.net/p/IOr6te95.html   my laptop connects fine to non encrypted networks but not to my wpa-psk network.
[22:30] <Xavura> poningru: Thanks!
[22:30] <c0mrade> gabbler: I'll tell you in private query tutorial which I'm using .. so if it can be done without courier great then :)
[22:30] <Kalisto> PDF_q, google "macchanger"
[22:30] <unop> Decepticon, what is the name of the package youa re trying to build here?
[22:30] <Decepticon> unop znc
[22:30] <gabbler> c0mrade: ok fire away
[22:30] <dashgr> unop, nope
[22:30] <juanma> bloodrock: sure..somehow the layout of the sites are just ok...but the caracters..the fonts and stuff..they are not white..i mean they r like hidden...
[22:30] <Bullit> unop how to use gsuk nautilus to aplly the rights for 1 map to all sublaying maps ?
[22:31] <PDF_q> any other way?
[22:31] <unop> Decadent, sudo apt-get build-dep znc  # and then go on to do ./configure, make, etc
[22:31] <juanma> bloodrock: and either selectin' with da mouse..i can see it..or read it..
[22:31] <blockhd> hello..... any idea, why my soundcard just stopped working=?
[22:31] <PDF_q> I cant get on the internet with my linux and I have no way to pass information to it (cd drive doesnt work)
[22:31] <zeeqy> Plik:..no luck bro...my ip asterisk box is <IP_ADDRESS> I did ssh<EMAIL_ADDRESS>but it doesnt ask me for any password...!!!
[22:31] <unop> Bullit, can i first ask you - are you makign a backup of your /boot partition ??
[22:31] <bloodrock> juanma,  you try changing the theme your useing
[22:31] <afallenhope> is there an easier way of manually setting my dns server?
[22:31] <p> hi .. I installed some update to firefox-2 (which I'm still using), and now none of my extensions work. they're installed, they just don't do anything.
[22:31] <p> any ideas how I can debug this?
[22:32] <unop> afallenhope, edit /etc/resolv.conf
[22:32] <afallenhope> I tried doing it from the Network but it keeps bringing back the old DNS server (it's down)
[22:32] <juanma> bloodrock: yeah..some1 told me to do it..but useless..
[22:32] <Fryguy--> p: tools | addons menu, do what you need to from there
[22:32] <Kalisto> PDF_q, i think you can change your mac with ifconfig. google it
[22:32] <Bullit> unop, no im copying a backtrack3 slax version from usb to a hardrive
[22:32] <Fryguy--> p: this is a better question for #firefox though
[22:32] <bloodrock> juanma, k how bout the background color
[22:32] <unop> afallenhope, well, if your machine gets it's ip address from a DHCP server (your router, e.g.)  -- then this entry will get overwritten the next time
[22:33] <juice`> hello, two of my 3 disks went down at the same time, one was part of RAID1, another was just fresh disk for backup, i really doubt it is hardware issue, any ideas? http://pastebin.com/m7e7af92f <- pasted syslog logs here...
[22:33] <Bullit> unop, i got full permision on the original files on usb , but no permisions when the files are on the HD ?
[22:33] <unop> afallenhope, the best thing to do is configure the DHCP server
[22:33] <juanma> bloodrock: dat 2. :S everything changed..but the caracters are still missing..even changing its color
[22:34] <p> Fryguy--: the addons menu says they are installed and enabled, but I'll ask in #firefox; thanks
[22:34] <blockhd> could be because of kernel update?
[22:34] <blockhd> help! :)
[22:34] <bloodrock> juanma, did you reboot after update and after reinstalling ff
[22:34] <unop> Bullit, see, this is how it is..  system files require very specific permissions on them or else you break security and also stop things from working -- stop trying to change these permissions, just copy them over with sudo and all will be good :)
[22:34] <juanma> bloodrock: nope..
[22:35] <Bullit> but unop , this harddisk is only temporarily in this pc and it is a slax version , not my own ubuntu version.
[22:35] <Fryguy--> Bullit: so?
[22:35] <Bullit> why do i need all this security then ?
[22:35] <unop> Bullit, that is not the issue, if you change the permissions - your slax thing will suffer - do you really want that? i don't think so
[22:35] <Bullit> will it suffer ?
[22:35] <Fryguy--> Bullit: i don't think you understand.  changing permissions of random system files will break things
[22:35] <bloodrock> juanma, might give that a try then i am out of suggestions
[22:35] <Bullit> ooh didnt know that ?
[22:35] <unop> Bullit, because slax requires the security or right permissions
[22:36] <Fryguy--> Bullit: we've told you this, several times already
[22:36] <Bullit> didnt know then permissions transfer with the files , i thought they transfer with OS
[22:36] <earthmeLon> I added another virtualhost to my /etc/apache/sites-available/ and now whenever I go to my webserver to a .php file, it tries to download the .php instead of run it. ANy suggestion?
[22:36] <ne2k__> Bullit: they are a property of the filesystem, actually
[22:36] <p> by the way, is the firefox-3 random seizure bug fixed?
[22:36] <Fryguy--> Bullit: on linux filesystems it transfers with filesystem
[22:36] <Bullit> ooh
[22:36] <Bullit> hmm kj
[22:36] <Bullit> can see if i can fix the damage ive done
[22:37] <Fryguy--> earthmeLon: make sure mime-types are set up correctly, and that you have php installed
[22:37] <juanma> bloodrock: Ok mate..thaks for the help...
[22:37] <poningru> p: huh?
[22:37] <Bullit> but then the question remains , why do i have full acces when the files are on my usb, but not when they are on my HD
[22:37] <Fryguy--> Bullit: what is it _exactly_ that you are trying to do?  whatever it is it sounds like you are doing it in the hardest way possible
[22:37] <bloodrock> juanma, when you took out ff did you do a complete removal
[22:37] <earthmeLon> Fryguy--, It was working before I followed the instructions you showed me
[22:38] <juanma> bloodrock: dats kinda strange..i mean i just installed the 8.4.1...codecs and apps...i tryed to install some fonts..and nothing else..
[22:38] <albundy> is anyone having problems with Gmail Drive? I've been erroring out...
[22:38] <juanma> bloodrock: also deleted the fonts...cuz i though this was the problem..but was wrong
[22:38] <bloodrock> juanma, oh oh you installed some fonts??
[22:38] <Fryguy--> albundy: we need a specific error message to be of any help do you
[22:38] <p> poningru: the firefox 3 fsync bug
[22:38] <unop> Bullit, what filesystem on the USB disk? FAT ?
[22:38] <Bullit> fryguy, im copying backtrack 3 (a slax mod) from a usb to a boot HD for a new pc on this old linux pc
[22:38] <juanma> bloodrock: there are 2 tahoma fonts and 4 verdana fonts on /usr/share/fonts
[22:39] <Bullit> unop , yes probably
[22:39] <Fryguy--> Bullit: why not just install it the normal way?
[22:39] <bloodrock> juanma, k you might try doing a complete removal of ff from the synmatic package manager
[22:39] <Bullit> isnt working
[22:39] <Fryguy--> Bullit: you are now going to have to do grub and stuff manually, and that's not going to be fun
[22:39] <p> I think it is fixed, actually
[22:39] <Bullit> tried that
[22:39] <Bullit> backtrack 3 doesnt have a installer btw
[22:39] <juanma> yeah..trying this
[22:40] <unop> Bullit, does backtrack3 have a source package?
[22:40] <Bullit> jup
[22:40] <Fryguy--> unop: backtrack is a linux distribution
[22:40] <Leefmc> Man smplayer has a lot of bugs in the interface.
[22:40] <Bullit> but that realy is over my head,,,,
[22:40] <Fryguy--> Leefmc: such as?
[22:40] <bloodrock> juanma, so you delete all but 1 of each font?
[22:40] <unop> Fryguy--, ahh, didn't know that
[22:40] <earthmeLon> Fryguy-- Do i need to tell php that there are new virtualhosts somehow or somethign? >_<
[22:40] <Fryguy--> bloodrock: don't do that
[22:40] <albundy> Fryguy, I think Google blocked the app
[22:40] <Fryguy--> juanma: don't delete the fonts, they are separate for bold, italic, and such)
[22:41] <Fryguy--> albundy: no error message = we can't help you
[22:41] <Fryguy--> earthmeLon: no
[22:41] <Leefmc> Fryguy--: The interface for key configs is sh-t heh. I can't seem to make a single button, consistently, do what it is supposed to do.
[22:41] <Fryguy--> earthmeLon: #apache
[22:41] <bloodrock> fryguy wasn't telling him to do it was asking if he did
[22:41] <juanma> Fryguy: yeah dats it...
[22:41] <blockhd> anyone else with audio not working?
[22:41] <earthmeLon> ty <3
[22:41] <blockhd> please :(
[22:41] <gabbler> bullit: you only have to do two command in grub, setup and root
[22:41] <Fryguy--> Leefmc: i haven't run into any issues
[22:41] <juanma> bloodrock: well..im gonna complete remove..install ..and reboot
[22:41] <Bullit> gabbler , it isnt like that ,,,
[22:41] <Fryguy--> juanma: why are you rebooting
[22:41] <Bullit> i mean ubuntu install from cd is easy
[22:42] <woody86> Good Mornin' #ubuntu!
[22:42] <Leefmc> Fryguy--: My space bar says pause only, yet it acts as pause and play. Period is a skip one frame, yet it constantly is acting as pause and play, though if you use it for our five times then it starts acting as a frame skip.
[22:42] <Bullit> backtrack doesnt even have a installer
[22:42] <albundy> Gmail Drive - Error : An error occurred: Login Failed.
[22:42] <Fryguy--> Leefmc: both of those buttons work fine for me
[22:42] <Bullit> biggest problem is that i have to install backtrack without internet
[22:42] <Leefmc> Fryguy--: The Pause button acts as a pause, and a skip frame (though this may be intended), etc.
[22:42] <albundy> System Error Message: Cookie Error - Unable to fetch Gmail Service cookies
[22:42] <juanma> Fryguy: dunno..the other guy said something about reboot..:s
[22:42] <Fryguy--> Leefmc: there are plenty of other video players available for linux if yo udon't like that one
[22:43] <bloodrock> juanma, prob don't need to reboot if you do a complete removal
[22:43] <Bullit> but guys, i think i go test this stuff
[22:43] <Bullit> ill be back in 10 min i hope
[22:43] <Onis18> hola alguine que hable español que me asista
[22:43] <Fryguy--> juanma: linux systems pretty much never need to be rebooted (only kernel updates and things tied directly to kernel)
[22:43] <juanma> ok..gonna try..now instaling
[22:43] <Bullit> im presuming it works now
[22:43] <Leefmc> Fryguy--: Blech, imma try and fix this crap because i was told that mplayer is by far the best.. heh
[22:43] <Fryguy--> Leefmc: it is
[22:43] <kholerabbi> is there a torrent for ubuntu?
[22:43] <Leefmc> Fryguy--: Thats what worries me ;P
[22:43] <Fryguy--> kholerabbi: http://www.google.com/search?q=ubuntu+8.04+torrent&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a
[22:43] <gabbler> leefmc: have you tried vlc?
[22:43] <woody86> Does anyone know how to mark myself as AFK, or away? I'm using Pidgin if that makes a differene.
[22:44] <Onis18> hola alguine que hable español que me asista
[22:44] <Fryguy--> kholerabbi: first link looks pretty helpful
[22:44] <nerdygirl> is there a linux for dummies?!? i need some help with simple tasks
[22:44] <xim> ubuntu
[22:44] <xim> is linux for dummies
[22:44] <the_herby> :D
[22:44] <Onis18> hola
[22:44] <Onis18> alguine que hable español
[22:44] <joaopinto> nerdygirl, have you checked help.ubuntu.com ?
[22:44] <Hornet> hello all ... having a rather interesting issue with the alternate installer.  It won't recognise my keyboard as soon as I start the installer proper, it works in bios & the initial menu, but but not when it starts.  It's a usb keyboard, and using a usb->ps2 adaptor results in no keyboard found at all
[22:44] <joaopinto> !es | Onis18
[22:44] <nerdygirl> ok, then how do i update my network drivers?!?
[22:44] <Fryguy--> nerdygirl: ask questions if you want.  If you are comfortable with simple tasks, and have problems finding solutions to them, there are always other operating systems available to use if you prefer those more
[22:45] <Fryguy--> nerdygirl: why do they need to be updated
[22:45] <the_herby> nerdygirl, whats wrong with your network drivers??
[22:45] <Leefmc> gabbler: I've hated vlc for a long time. I tested it and found it to be trash in windows and linux heh. Dont get me wrong, it plays everything under the sun, but its not a solid program. Its always felt a bit sluggish, as if it was playing a video, but didn't have tight control over the video.
[22:45] <kholerabbi> is the torrent any liklier to fail?
[22:45] <randrews> Join #eeemania for general discussion and tweaks for the eee pc
[22:45] <juanma> bloodrock: Nice move mate..thanks for the great help..working fine now!
[22:45] <the_herby> kholerabbi, what do you mean?
[22:45] <Fryguy--> kholerabbi: fail?
[22:45] <bloodrock> juanma,  cool
[22:45] <albundy> Guess Gmail Drive no worky...any alternatives?
[22:46] <connor> I just installed windows xp on a second hard drive, how can I get grub back? On my first hard drive I have vista and ubuntu
[22:46] <juanma> bloodrock: God! what a crazy bug :S
[22:46] <xim> anyone know why vmware would continually make me re-run the config script?
[22:46] <nerdygirl> they never installed when i installed ubuntu
[22:46] <kholerabbi> Fryguy--:  I just mean - I would get the torrent, except I don't want to risk errors.. low download limit.
[22:46] <mordof> looking for a way to stream media files to the internet -> but on ubuntu server, no gui. does anyone know of a good way to do this?
[22:46] <Fryguy--> connor: googling "ubuntu recover grub" yields tons of results and howtos for getting grub nworking again
[22:46] <connor> Thanks
[22:46] <Fryguy--> kholerabbi: the torrent is the exact same content as the main download
[22:46] <juanma> bloodrock: Maybe its something about the ubufox...cuz i installed everything again..but not the ubufox package
[22:46] <gabbler> leefmc: ah,i see it does play everything but is is pretty slow have you heard of miro?
[22:46] <Hornet> having a rather interesting issue with the alternate installer.  It won't recognise my keyboard as soon as I start the installer proper, it works in bios & the initial menu, but but not when it starts.  It's a usb keyboard, and using a usb->ps2 adaptor results in no keyboard found at all .. anyone have any ideas?
[22:46] <nerdygirl> its the intel wireless/pro 9345abg card for my laptop
[22:47] <Fryguy--> nerdygirl: those work out of the box with no updates necessary
[22:47] <kholerabbi> Fryguy--: yeah right. thanks
[22:47] <Leefmc> gabbler: No
[22:47] <Hornet> I don't have access to a PS2 keyboard, short of asking someone to post me one :\
[22:47] <bloodrock> juanma,  could be
[22:47] <Fryguy--> nerdygirl: it's 3945 btw
[22:47] <gabbler> leefmc:getmiro.com
[22:47] <Leefmc> gabbler: As far as mplayer goes, im playing an ogg right now, and i played a mov a bit ago, and it was very spot on. It seems to be well built, but its key config is horrid heh
[22:47] <juanma> well..thks guys!
[22:47] <__yy> Hornet: network install?
[22:47] <bloodrock> juanma, i've stayed away from putting any of the addons for ff in
[22:47] <gabbler> leefmc: i know what you mean the config file is a nightmare
[22:48] <nerdygirl> oh 3945 abg ya.. its asking me to "make =SHEELL /bash/bin" but when i do i get this error
[22:48] <juanma> bloodrock: still the same bloody error! :S
[22:48] <Fryguy--> nerdygirl: what?
[22:48] <Fryguy--> nerdygirl: what are you doing
[22:48] <Leefmc> gabbler: Well its just not.. good. I can sit here and tap the period key every half second or so, and within a few seconds i can see atleast 3 separate functions come from that single key.
[22:48] <Hornet> __yy, I've only got wifi :\
[22:49] <nickrud> Fryguy--, looks like postfix notation
[22:49] <TimZ1m> i have a problem:i deleted the part of the top panel where the running programms are displayed, now i often get an error(can not connect to klauncher) when i open an application wich is normaly displayed there, a small icon opens(about 5*10px) wich works like the icon thats missing in the panel und wenn ich ein programm öffne, dass da angezeigt würde(z.B. kopete) kommt ein kleines fenster(~5*10px) some apps like network-manager and upda
[22:49] <TimZ1m> ter are completely missing
[22:49] <nerdygirl> trying to update the mac80211 install
[22:49] <gabbler> leefmc: wmp :)
[22:49] <Leefmc> gabbler: And the key config shows only the period bound. so.. i dunno.
[22:49] <node357> nerdygirl I think you want SHELL=/bin/bash
[22:49] <Leefmc> gabbler: wmp?
[22:49] <Bullitje> kj
[22:49] <Bullitje> change of plans
[22:49] <Bullitje> how to make a usb-stick bootalbe ?
[22:49] <gabbler> leefmc: windows media player ;)
[22:49] <Fryguy--> nerdygirl: why
[22:49] <Leefmc> gabbler: haha, why are you bringing that into the convo
[22:49] <fructose> TimZ1m: Isn't there an kubuntu channel?
[22:49] <bloodrock> juanma, its doing it again or did ou instal what you said you didn't??
[22:50] <juanma> bloodrock: doing it again
[22:50] <TimZ1m> im using ubuntu
[22:50] <TimZ1m> gnome
[22:50] <gabbler> leefmc: sorry couldn't resist, peronally i don't use mplayer, i use vlxc and totem and the ffmpeg here and ther for conversion the mplayer config and codec stuff has always put me off
[22:50] <nerdygirl> the nic drivers won't load, let me link the install readme
[22:50] <patrik> is anyone here using Ubuntu on a Mac laptop of some sort?
[22:51] <bloodrock> juanma, prob take out all addons you put in
[22:51] <Fryguy--> nerdygirl: the drivers come with a base install of ubuntu, theya re already loaded and running
[22:51] <bloodrock> juanma, then add one at a time to test each
[22:51] <patrik> I heard there was some way to control the light on backside of the cover on the Mac laptops. Can anyone confirm that?
[22:51] <fructose> TimZ1m: OK, thought maybe not because of all the KDE apps you use (kopete, klauncher)
[22:51] <nerdygirl> but i have no connect and no networks are found
[22:51] <Leefmc> gabbler: It seriously annoys me though, because the actual video playback seems solid. It has a tight wrap around this video, very well controlled. But the interface.. jeez its acting as if im pushing random buttons while drunk.
[22:51] <gabbler> leefmc: btw do you know if mplayer plays hd windows files yet?
[22:51] <juanma> bloodrock: i dont have any addons..
[22:51] <randrews> join #eeemania
[22:52] <Leefmc> gabbler: No idea
[22:52] <gabbler> leefmc: :)
[22:52] <Fryguy--> nerdygirl: does it show up in iwconfig?
[22:52] <juanma> bloodrock: i dont know..could be over-heatin?
[22:52] <amon-kill> hola
[22:52] <bloodrock> juanma,  oh is it just 1 site or all sites?
[22:52] <amon-kill> alguien q spa español
[22:52] <gabbler> leefmc: maybe you should GET drunk and then it wont seem so bad or you simply wont care
[22:52] <Martinzz> Hola!!
[22:52] <amon-kill> hoa
[22:52] <nerdygirl> no wireless extensions for eth0, lo, wmaster0
[22:52] <hiptobecubic> is there a way to run my webcam through some kind of filter ? I use it for webchat etc but i'd like it to be black and white because it handles color poorly
[22:52] <amon-kill> hola
[22:52] <Leefmc> gabbler: I'm still trying to get a decent H264 output. So far the best i've come up with is turning a 10mb 1440x900 OGG into a 50MB 720xsomething H264.
[22:52] <Martinzz> desde Iowa
[22:53] <juanma> bloodrock: almost al sites
[22:53] <Leefmc> gabbler: So obviously, there is something to be desired there. hah
[22:53] <hiptobecubic> maybe a program that does it?
[22:53] <Martinzz> q chistoso
[22:53] <amon-kill> jajjaja
[22:53] <juanma> bloodrock: and opera is workin fine
[22:53] <amon-kill> avias entrado antes aqui
[22:53] <amon-kill> ??
[22:53] <mordof> anyone know if Gnump3d requires codecs to be on the machine that's hosting it?
[22:53] <gabbler> leefmc: is that with mplayer natively via some output or with ffmeg?
[22:53] <Martinzz> si
[22:53] <Martinzz> un monton y tu?
[22:53] <amon-kill> io no
[22:53] <BCS-Satori_> I have a question in regards to the swap partition.  I have a macbook pro, that I am going to triple boot and have not put ubuntu on a laptop before.  My question is do I need to make the swap file as large as my system memory?  I have 4GB of memory on my machine.
[22:53] <amon-kill> cuantos años tienes
[22:53] <BCS-Satori_> so that my machine can hibernate
[22:53] <amon-kill> ??
[22:54] <Martinzz> ah ya mira como funciona
[22:54] <amon-kill> dime
[22:54] <juanma> largate cojjone! jajaja hablas en inglés!
[22:54] <Fryguy--> BCS-Satori_: you need to if you want hibernate to work correctly, otherwise no
[22:54] <gabbler> bsc-satori_:i wouldn't there is no need, 1-2 gb should be fine
[22:54] <Fryguy--> gabbler: not true
[22:54] <bloodrock> juanma, but when you move your mouse over area then you see the text
[22:54] <amon-kill> dime como funciona
[22:54] <Martinzz> Hello, anybody knows about a driver  to my network card?
[22:54] <Fryguy--> Martinzz: ask a more detailed question please
[22:54] <Leefmc> gabbler: Thats actually from Blender. As i haven't had luck compiling FFMPEG with H264 (well, x264). It seems Linux is great, but if you venture into the wrong area you are put into a old maze cavern with only a map and a matchstick to find your way out.
[22:55] <amon-kill> martinzz
[22:55] <juanma> bloodrock: no..thats woot i cant understand...i cant see any caracter
[22:55] <BCS-Satori_> Fryguy--: and should in linux its 1000x1000 not 1024x1024 for size right? so i would make an 4000MB swap not 4096MB
[22:55] <Fryguy--> Leefmc: yes that is true with ubuntu.  if you get outside of the package management system and start trying to do things on your own that happens
[22:55] <gabbler> fryguy--,bcs-satori_:i dunno but i have two gigs of memory and have a two gig swap and the most i have seen used is a couple hundred mb
[22:55] <Martinzz> how can I see what is my network card?
[22:55] <amon-kill> no se ingles
[22:55] <Fryguy--> BCS-Satori_: no
[22:55] <Leefmc> Fryguy--: Heh, wish the package management system would keep up then ;P
[22:55] <Martinzz> solo preguntas
[22:55] <Martinzz> y te responden
[22:55] <amon-kill> q pregunto
[22:55] <amon-kill> ??
[22:56] <hiptobecubic> !es
[22:56] <bloodrock> juanma, anything happen when you click on refresh button
[22:56] <amon-kill> jajaja
[22:56] <nerdygirl> this is the driver i'm trying to install:http://downloadcenter.intel.com/filter_results.aspx?strTypes=all&ProductID=2259&OSFullName=Linux*&lang=eng&strOSs=39&submit=Go%21
[22:56] <Fryguy--> gabbler: you need swap equal to memory size if you want hibernate to work correctly, which is what he was askin gabout
[22:56] <Martinzz> lo que necesites saber
[22:56] <juanma> pues buske la ayuda del ubuntu en castellano se no lo sabes...
[22:56] <amon-kill> i cuanto años tienes
[22:56] <Martinzz> usas linux?
[22:56] <Nikilos> Network Manager doesn't show me any options for wireless connections anymore. I am on an Inspiron 1525, and this started happening after the recent updates I installed. Could someone help me fix this problem?
[22:56] <Martinzz> 22
[22:56] <amon-kill> si
[22:56] <amon-kill> uso linux
[22:56] <BCS-Satori_> Fryguy--: so I need to make a 4096MB swap then if I have 4GB memory?
[22:56] <amon-kill> pero estoi recien
[22:56] <joaopinto> spanish people, please join #ubuntu-es !!!
[22:56] <amon-kill> soi novato
[22:56] <mangosteen> hey im trying to install flash player plugin but in the two ways i try it dont work, anyone can help?
[22:56] <FloodBot1> amon-kill: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:56] <gabbler> fryguy--: but surely thats active memory not total
[22:56] <juanma> bloodrock: it refresh...but stay on the same bloody error
[22:56] <Fryguy--> Leefmc: it's the philosophy of ubuntu and other debian based systems to not do that.  There are other distributions with other package management systems available that stay more up to date on a regular basis
[22:56] <amon-kill> i quiero experimentar
[22:56] <nerdygirl> the readme states to install mac80211 first.. ?!?
[22:56] <Fryguy--> BCS-Satori_: right
[22:56] <amon-kill> sabes ocupar linux
[22:56] <Martinzz> si yo solo en mi server y ahora se fue a quien sabe dios
[22:56] <Martinzz> a la mierda
[22:57] <gordonjcp> is apt-cache search a bit broken for anyone else?
[22:57] <Fryguy--> BCS-Satori_: at least, you should probably have a bit over that to account for normal things that go into swap
[22:57] <bloodrock> juanma, it shows you a error message?
[22:57] <Martinzz> asi q tuve q instalarlo de nuevo
[22:57] <gabbler> leefmc: too true, i had to use ffmpeg a while back and ubunut repsoitory didn't cut the mustard and it was hell to compile all the options in
[22:57] <Oli``> Martinzz juanma amon-kill: this is an english support channel - take this to #ubuntu-es
[22:57] <Fryguy--> gabbler: for hibernation to work correctly you need a swap the size of your system memory
[22:57] <gordonjcp> it seems to be matching a really overly-broad range of things
[22:57] <Martinzz> y el internet no funca
[22:57] <Leefmc> Fryguy--: I know, im just replying to your comment, of basically, "if you leave the package management system, your hosed" heh
[22:57] <joaopinto> !ops Spanish chat disturbing the channel
[22:57] <amon-kill> aaaaaaaaa
[22:57] <mangosteen> how to install flash player plugin on firefox?
[22:57] <juanma> bloodrock: nope...
[22:57] <amon-kill> tines msn
[22:57] <randrews> join #eeemania
[22:57] <randrews> join #eeemania
[22:57] <randrews> join #eeemania
[22:57] <randrews> join #eeemania
[22:57] <FloodBot1> randrews: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:57] <randrews> join #eeemania
[22:57] <randrews> join #eeemania
[22:57] <Oli``> !ops
[22:57] <Fryguy--> Leefmc: if you know, then you know about the differences between various package management systems and how to make an informed decision about which one to join, so why make the comment
[22:57] <usuario__> Martinzz, hola, que tal? este canal eres en ingles
[22:58] <Leefmc> Fryguy--: Its like Ubuntu is saying "Dont go out there or you'll be screwed! .. but then again, we can't help you here :)" heh
[22:58] <juanma> Oli``:guess im talking in english..:P
[22:58] <patrik> BCS-Satori_, what is the problem with the swap partition?
[22:58] <bloodrock> juanma, did you install any of the flash pluggins
[22:58] <Warp4> hi all, does anyone know if there will be a desktop version of 8.10 available?
[22:58] <Martinzz> Anybody knows how to fix the internet is not working
[22:58] <Leefmc> Fryguy--: Well i have yet to hear of one from educated people that has what i need, etcetc
[22:58] <Fryguy--> Warp4: yes, in october
[22:58] <Martinzz> so I cant even update
[22:58] <Warp4> Martinzz: what kind of problem are you having?
[22:58] <joaopinto> Warp4, yes, as for all versions
[22:58] <Fryguy--> Leefmc: archlinux and gentoo should have what you need
[22:58] <Oli``> Martinzz: you need to describe your hardware
[22:59] <juanma> bloodrock: yep the flashplugin-nonfree
[22:59] <Leefmc> Fryguy--: Ie, ffmpeg with the required features. So im left with compiling my own :/
[22:59] <Warp4> Fryguy--: thanks :)   just didnt see the alpha 1 version available in a desktop release, just server
[22:59] <amon-kill> oie
[22:59] <Fryguy--> Leefmc: or just compile stuff yourself and manage it yourself, it's not that difficult
[22:59] <amon-kill> martinzz
[22:59] <Oli``> Martinzz: make and model, etc. then somebody can help
[22:59] <mangosteen> when i try to install, in the flash player directory it installs the terminal says but when i open firefox no addon is install
[22:59] <amon-kill> sabes usar tor
[22:59] <Leefmc> Fryguy--: Yup :), just gatta find my way out of the maze first ;)
[22:59] <nerdygirl> ok, how do i set shell to bash?!?
[22:59] <Fryguy--> nerdygirl: it's bash by default
[22:59] <a_> join #legia
[22:59] <hiptobecubic> nerdygirl, it's default
[23:00] <joaopinto> mangosteen, please install the flash from the repositories, install the nonfree package
[23:00] <BCS-Satori_> patrik: nothing was just asking when on a laptop how big swap needs to be to hibernate, fryguy helped me out
[23:00] <amon-kill> hello
[23:00] <nerdygirl> then why do i get this warning: &shell not set to bash when i try to make the mac80211?
[23:00] <gordonjcp> hiptobecubic: isn't it dash by default?
[23:00] <Fryguy--> gordonjcp: no
[23:00] <gordonjcp> Fryguy--: hm
[23:00] <gordonjcp> Fryguy--: sure about that?
[23:00] <Warp4> amon-kill: if you speak in english, perhaps we can help you :)
[23:00] <hiptobecubic> gordonjcp, i'm pretty sure it's bash
[23:00] <bloodrock> juanma, in the preferences for ff you you check the content setup options
[23:00] <patrik> BCS-Satori_, ok, missed that :)
[23:00] <Fryguy--> nerdygirl: export SHELL=/bin/bash before using make then
[23:00] <Fryguy--> gordonjcp: yes
[23:00] <gordonjcp> hrm, mine seems to be dash
[23:00] <Nikilos> Does anyone know how to make a restricted driver's status not "Not in use"?
[23:00] <nickrud> nerdygirl,   env | sort | less   , do that in a terminal. You'll see some interesting things, along with your shell
[23:00] <nerdygirl> ok
[23:00] <Leefmc> Fryguy--: Im confused though, i understand why ffmpeg doesn't have h264, but i dont understand why it doesn't have x264 or .. ogg, both of which are open and free, right?
[23:00] <BCS-Satori_> patrik: no worries thanks
[23:01] <Fryguy--> yes
[23:01] <Leefmc> Fryguy--: ogg especially
[23:01] <Fryguy--> and both of those are available
[23:01] <Warp4> nerdygirl: if its available, you should also be able to use chsh IIRC
[23:01] <juanma> bloodrock: K..wtas next?
[23:01] <Fryguy--> Leefmc: we use x264 with ffmpeg at work, works fine
[23:01] <Leefmc> Fryguy--: If compiled, yes, im talking default
[23:01] <Leefmc> Fryguy--: Ie, the one you grab from the repos
[23:01] <patrik> BCS-Satori_:  what kind of Mac do you have you said, MacBook Pro?
[23:01] <juanma> bloodrock: desactivate java?
[23:01] <mangosteen> jaopinto, i tried with synaptics to but it complains about dpkg ?
[23:01] <bloodrock> juanma,  is load images auto checked
[23:02] <juanma> bloodrock: its checked
[23:02] <naknomik> I want to store values in an array, echo -e "abcd\nefgh" | while  read line ; do echo "$n = $line"; variable[$n]=$line;  n=`expr $n + 1`; done but this doesn't seem to work. What's wrong?
[23:02] <Bora> anyone understands what this is: fehler beim lesen des datentragers meustart mit strg+alt+entf
[23:02] <bloodrock> juanma, all 4 lil boxes should have a check in them
[23:02] <BCS-Satori_> patrik: yep Penryn edition the newest
[23:02] <nerdygirl> when i ran env|sort thing it does say shell=/bin/bash - then whats going on with that error?
[23:02] <mangosteen> japointo, resporitories is synaptics or?
[23:02] <patrik> BCS-Satori_: ok, cool
[23:02] <joaopinto> Bora, this is not a translation channel, please try babelfish for that, or similar
[23:02] <Fryguy--> naknomik: this isn't a bash scripting channel
[23:03] <patrik> BCS-Satori_: I just bought a MacBook yesterday (ordinary)
[23:03] <Fryguy--> nerdygirl: just do what i said
[23:03] <MeRodent> Bora, it means failure when reading the media - restart ctrl alt del
[23:03] <gabbler> gordonjcp: so is mine :)
[23:03] <amon-kill> i am don't speak english
[23:03] <hiptobecubic> !es | amon-kill
[23:03] <patrik> BCS-Satori_: I heard that it was supposed to be possible to control the Aple light on the backside of the screen, have you heard anything about this?
[23:03] <BCS-Satori_> patrik: very nice you will enjoy it greatly, i had it quad booting yesterday, xp, vista, osx, ubuntu, but decided I didn't need xp and vista, just wanted to try it hehe
[23:03] <amon-kill> i'm speak espanish
[23:03] <woody86> is anyone on here pretty good with programming?
[23:04] <amon-kill> thanks
[23:04] <Fryguy--> woody86: i'm a professional woftware engineer
[23:04] <amon-kill> es q soi nuevo en linux
[23:04] <patrik> BCS-Satori_: hehe, extreme. I'm happy with dual booting ;-)
[23:04] <hiptobecubic> amon-kill, no problemo
[23:04] <gabbler> woody86: waht language?
[23:04] <amon-kill> i no se casi nada de linux
[23:04] <BCS-Satori_> patrik: have you put ubuntu on it yet?
[23:04] <patrik> BCS-Satori_: of course :)
[23:04] <Oli``> !ops | amon-kill
[23:04] <woody86> Fryguy gabbler - I have a code I need to make into a gnome panel applet
[23:04] <Warp4> amon-kill: try #ubuntu-es
[23:04] <juanma> bloodrock: hey mate...somehow i solve this!
[23:04] <bloodrock> juanma, i take it all 4 boxes were checked
[23:04] <mangosteen> jaopito: when i launch the synaptics it now complains that i must manually run dpkg -- configure -a what does that mean i have to do, i tried comand but what do i configure?
[23:05] <MeRodent> amon-kill, /join #ubuntu-es
[23:05] <Rhorse> amon-kill, que su question?
[23:05] <Fryguy--> woody86: so go ahead and do that.  DBus etc are all well documented by gnome, and there's plenty of examples around.  irc.gnome.org #gnome should be helpful as well
[23:05] <BCS-Satori_> patrik: did you put the grub loader on /dev/sda# or did you do it to (hda0,3) like the guide states?
[23:05] <nerdygirl> fryguy: when i export SHELL=/bin/bash before make it gives me the same error that shell not set to bash?!?
[23:05] <Bora> ok, anyone knows what is the cause for a hard drive that the bios outputs that error? failure when reading the media - restart ctrl alt del............ why it's not bootable anymore
[23:05] <CelticLord> nuit!!
[23:05] <DigitalSith> anyone use anything other than ubuntu, just curious
[23:05] <joaopinto> mangosteen, open a terminal and run: sudo dpkg -- configure -a
[23:05] <juanma> bloodrock: i went there..uncheck and checked again..also i went to advanced options of fonts..and try some different font...and back to sans..
[23:05] <juanma> bloodrock: finally working..thatks mate!
[23:05] <patrik> BCS-Satori_: I think it wrote to sda, but rEFIt fixed that for me
[23:06] <joaopinto> DigitalSith, this is a support channel, for off topic, please join #ubuntu-offtopic
[23:06] <nickrud> Oli``, you don't need to be so quick with the ops tag ...
[23:06] <Fryguy--> Bora: you need to have grub correctly installed
[23:06] <bloodrock> juanma,  cool beans
[23:06] <woody86> Fryguy - well I have absoloutly NO programming experience, a guy on the forum helped me come up with the code, lol
[23:06] <BCS-Satori_> patrik: so you wrote it to the partition that ext3 / was on
[23:06] <patrik> BCS-Satori_: when you boot up you can choose rEFIt control (or something similar). That will just fix it for you
[23:06] <Oli``> nickrud: he's been talking in spanish (almost non stop) for 10 minutes with plenty of warnings
[23:06] <Fryguy--> Bora: http://www.daniweb.com/blogs/entry708.html
[23:06] <patrik> BCS-Satori_: hoesntly Iäm not sure, I didn't pay too much attention, I just played around
[23:06] <woody86> Fryguy--: but #gnome would be a better place to get info?
[23:06] <BCS-Satori_> patrik: i have refit on the machine
[23:06] <Bora> Fryguy: ok the link....
[23:06] <patrik> BCS-Satori_: me too
[23:06] <Fryguy--> woody86: well now is the time to learn.  Like I said, there is plenty of documentation around for adding to gnome-panel, get reading.
[23:07] <BCS-Satori_> patrik: here we go installing once again hehe
[23:07] <joaopinto> nickrud, I agree with Oli`` , that person was already instructed to join the spanish channel, several times
[23:07] <xeer> How can I keep the mplayer gui while turning off the visualizations to slim it down a bit
[23:07] <patrik> BCS-Satori_: (I might disappear, batter running low)
[23:07] <nickrud> Oli``, I stopped going back when I saw a gap, I see much more now
[23:07] <patrik> BCS-Satori_: Why?
[23:07] <woody86> Fryguy--: ok thx, I'll google ;)
[23:07] <BCS-Satori_> patrik: doing the x64 verison this time,
[23:07] <BCS-Satori_> patrik: to triple boot rather then quad
[23:07] <patrik> BCS-Satori_: aha, ok (that's what I have)
[23:08] <patrik> BCS-Satori_: I heard that it was supposed to be possible to control the Aple light on the backside of the screen, have you heard anything about this?
[23:08] <nickrud> Oli``, looks like you scared him straight anyway ;_
[23:08] <td123> does anyone know of any ati cards supporting opengl 2.1?
[23:08] <corrupt> who makes flawless notebooks that cater to the full capabilities of the ubuntu os?
[23:08] <nerdygirl> think i found the error - makefile not found at '/lib/modules/2.6.24-generic/source/' script failed?!?
[23:08] <Fryguy--> corrupt: dells with intel wifi cards work fine
[23:08] <nerdygirl> so is my make file not setup or something?!/
[23:09] <Fryguy--> nerdygirl: did you do ./configure first
[23:09] <corrupt> thanks fryguy.
[23:09] <nerdygirl> umm, no
[23:09] <Oli``> corrupt: flawless?! there isn't such a thing  - even for windows. they either weigh too much, dont have enough battery, have a stupid keyboard, poor trackpad, etc,etc,etc
[23:09] <Warp4> ok i have what i think to be a legit question :)  i have in my charge 6 servers that have  16GB of RAM and dual quad-core Xeon processors.  I am thinking that the 64 bit version of Ubuntu (or even Debian for that matter) with the BIGMEM kernel would yield better performance on these machines.  One, am I correct in this assumption and two, is 64-bit Linux ready for "prime time" production use...
[23:09] <BCS-Satori_> patrik: havent messed with it yet, but i dont see anything talking about it working or not working on the site https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MacBookPro but granted thats the pro  one
[23:09] <Warp4> ...these days?
[23:09] <MeRodent> I still think ubotto's language faqs should explain how to join another channel considering most people that don't know where to go also don't know how to get ther.
[23:09] <Fryguy--> Warp4: yes
[23:09] <Nikilos> My wireless completely died after recent updates on Hardy :(
[23:09] <mangosteen> jaopinto: oki done, when i start synaptics it says i have 1 broken package on the system..how i correct that?
[23:10] <corrupt> Oli``, well then a notebook that generally gets good reviews...
[23:10] <patrik> BCS-Satori_: I browsed google for it for quite long, but didn't find anything. Perhaps I dreamt about it or something...
[23:10] <Fryguy--> Nikilos: so reinstall your wireless drivers, you probably got a new kernel
[23:10] <BCS-Satori_> patrik: look here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MacBook under Brightness
[23:10] <nerdygirl> ./configure?
[23:10] <patrik> BCS-Satori_: that is for the LCD I believe
[23:10] <Fryguy--> nerdygirl: yes
[23:10] <Nikilos> Fryguy--: Sorry, but how do I do that?
[23:11] <Fryguy--> what wireless card do you have
[23:11] <nerdygirl> intel pro/wireless 3945 abg
[23:11] <patrik> BCS-Satori_: I'm talking about the apple-shaped light on the cover
[23:11] <Fryguy--> Nikilos: (btw i'm going to just type this into google an dcopy paste results, so maybe you want to save my time)
[23:11] <Nikilos> Fryguy--: Alright, I'll go google around, thanks
[23:11] <Oli``> corrupt: there's an ongoing thread (from 2004 - still updated regularly): http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=275249&page=13
[23:12] <solexious> [Q] Hello, im not sure if my graphics card is set up correctly *ati* as frets on fire shakes alot
[23:12] <BCS-Satori_> patrik: ahh, not sure, mines on now, but granted im on the live cd.  i'm pretty sure that the light is control by the system bios though not os
[23:12] <MatBoy> are there people using JWM as their desktop manager ?
[23:12] <BCS-Satori_> patrik: could be wrong
[23:12] <patrik> BCS-Satori_: ok
[23:12] <corrupt> thanks Oli``.
[23:12] <HairyDude> http://www.nexusuk.org/photos/sucs/beachparty/2008/06/07/ gives an xml parse error in firefox 3, but I don't see what's wrong with it
[23:12] <BCS-Satori_> patrik: did it light up when you had the live cd in?
[23:13] <mangosteen> jaopinto:the boken filter is where?
[23:13] <Fryguy--> HairyDude: looks fine on my firefox
[23:13] <mangosteen> i must fix it before install right flash player i find but not in filter if i choose broken
[23:14] <patrik> BCS-Satori_: it is lighting, but I want to control it - have it blinking when I get mail or something :)
[23:14] <gavi> photoshop is to gimp as premiere is to ?????????? anyonme
[23:14] <nerdygirl> kernel Makefile not found?!? how do i run configure to get that set before running make?
[23:14] <BCS-Satori_> patrik: ah very cool idea not sure but that would be very neat
[23:14] <td123> premiere is for videos right?
[23:14] <Oli``> gavi: avidemux? cinerrella?
[23:14] <gavi> td123, yes
[23:14] <purplestar> I recorded a 20 mins home movie that I want to put on DVD.   You have pretty much 0 chance of getting it installed
[23:14] <gavi> Oli``, which is better?
[23:14] <mangosteen> i try to install it anyway then
[23:15] <bloodrock> nerdygirl, type ./configure
[23:15] <Oli``> gavi: depends what you want to do - have a play
[23:15] <MatBoy> guys, I can recommend JWM :)
[23:15] <Fryguy--> bloodrock: it needs kernel headers
[23:15] <nerdygirl> ./configure does nothing no such file or directory
[23:15] <Fryguy--> nerdygirl: why not just google "ubuntu 3945" and solve the problem that way, instead of trying to manually compile kernel drivers
[23:15] <gavi> Oli``,   which would u say is easier to get a hang of?
[23:15] <bloodrock> fryguy oh
[23:16] <Oli``> gavi: there are a LOT more apps you'll want to experiment with - those are just the two I use for the tasks I need to do. Avidemux is simple as hell but it's also limited to postprocessing-tasks. cenerella is fugly and complicated but it's powerful (like premiere). there are some apps in the middle but I have no use of them so haven't tested any
[23:17] <Oli``> gavi: I mean Cinelerra http://cinelerra.org/
[23:17] <gavi> Oli``, good explination.. i prob want the fugly one but not in this point in time... right now i want to start off with simple youtube video edits
[23:17] <purplestar> I recorded a 20 mins home movie that I want to put on DVD. How can I create a DVD menu and put my mpeg movie on DVD?
[23:18] <Fryguy--> purplestar: brasero might do what you need
[23:18] <Oli``> purplestar: todisc
[23:18] <joaopinto> purplestar, you can try mandvd
[23:18] <joaopinto> Fryguy--, brasero supports dvd creation with menus ?
[23:18] <Fryguy--> joaopinto: no idea
[23:18] <Oli``> mandvd is good too
[23:18] <gavi> is avidemux good for this
[23:18] <purplestar> which one helps me create a DVD menu, music in background and then create DVD?
[23:18] <joaopinto> Fryguy--, dvd authoring and dvd burning are different functions, brasero as far as I know is a burning tool ;)
[23:19] <Fryguy--> joaopinto: like i said i have no idea
[23:19] <joaopinto> purplestar, I believe mandvd allows that
[23:19] <Fryguy--> joaopinto: i said "might do what you need"
[23:19] <gavi> im gona try it
[23:19] <Oli``> purplestar: take a look at mandvd
[23:19] <gavi> thanks Oli``
[23:19] <joaopinto> Fryguy--, no prob, you have an idea now :P
[23:19] <Fryguy--> joaopinto: i use nero lol
[23:19] <purplestar> E: Couldn't find package mandvd
[23:19] <purplestar> !mandvd
[23:20] <joaopinto> purplestar, unfortunately mandvd is not available on the repositories yet, get it from getdeb
[23:20] <Oli``> purplestar: http://www.getdeb.net/app/ManDVD
[23:20] <purplestar> apt-get install mandvd = E: Couldn't find package mandvd
[23:20] <purplestar> ok
[23:20] <purplestar> thanks
[23:20] <purplestar> is mandvd safe to install?
[23:20] <joaopinto> yes it is
[23:20] <ShinjinAkage> How do I find out what device name to use in the mount command?
[23:20] <Oli``> yes, with no warranties from me =)
[23:20] <Fryguy--> ShinjinAkage: what do you want to mount
[23:20] <purplestar> is  http://www.getdeb.net a trustworthy website?
[23:20] <Oli``> purplestar: yes
[23:21] <joaopinto> with as much guarantees from me as you would get from the source
[23:21] <Fryguy--> purplestar: sort of
[23:21] <ShinjinAkage> Fryguy--: An internal Hard drive.
[23:21] <joaopinto> purplestar, that particular package was built by me...
[23:21] <purplestar> Fryguy--: why do you say sort of?
[23:21] <Rhorse> ShinjinAkage, type ls -rt /dev for list of devices
[23:21] <Fryguy--> ShinjinAkage: it'll be /dev/sda, /dev/sdb, /dev/sdc, /dev/sdd, etc, depending on how many hard drives you have in the machine and which one ubuntu is installed on
[23:21] <joaopinto> purplestar, because in general is is not safe to install .debs from random sites
[23:21] <purplestar> joaopinto: you built the deb package from http://www.getdeb.net/release/2881 ?
[23:22] <Fryguy--> purplestar: it's not the official ubuntu repositories, so it's not supported by ubuntu, and you'll occasionally run into issues because of this
[23:22] <Rhorse> the most recently detected are at the bottom of the list
[23:22] <joaopinto> everything that comes out of the repositories is not as safe as from them
[23:22] <joaopinto> purplestar, yes I did
[23:22] <purplestar> Fryguy--: but will installing that DEB comprimise my ubuntu security? Because I use ubuntu for netbanking etc
[23:22] <Fryguy--> ShinjinAkage: and then you'll have to specify the right partition for the drive that you find, use cfdisk or fdisk to find these
[23:22] <Fryguy--> purplestar: yes
[23:22] <purplestar> joaopinto: I use Ubuntu for netbanking, credit card account etc, is it safe to install that?
[23:23] <joaopinto> purplestar, if you have the same reason for trust me, as you would truste on the source, unless you are a programmer and usually check the code before compiling :)
[23:23] <purplestar> joaopinto: maybe you built that package to hack my ubuntu? How can I be certain its safe?
[23:23] <Fryguy--> purplestar: you can't
[23:23] <purplestar> does anyone here know joaopinto ?  Is he a regular member of Ubuntu community?
[23:23] <joaopinto> purplestar, maybe all the ubuntu devs owned your system .. please give me a break
[23:23] <Oli``> purplestar: you can't but the same *could* be said for things already installed on your computer. you haven't checked every line of code, have you?
[23:24] <purplestar> can anyone here vouch for joaopinto and his credibility?
[23:24] <Fryguy--> purplestar: if you have concernes about security, don't install packages from sources other than the ubuntu repository.  pretty simple
[23:24] <purplestar> Oli``: do you know joaopinto and is http://www.getdeb.net/release/2881 safe webpage?
[23:24] <Oli``> purplestar: in fairness, I gave you a link there too. it's a common resource for Ubuntu users
[23:24] <purplestar> Fryguy--: yes thats why Im asking about http://www.getdeb.net/release/2881
[23:24] <joaopinto> purplestar, forget it.. keep with the repositories please.. you already got enough information
[23:25] <purplestar> joaopinto: yeah I will keep with the Ubuntu, because I do not know you, nor can I trust someone I dont know. thanks anyway
[23:25] <purplestar> does anyone know a DVD authoring package from Ubuntu repos?
[23:25] <Fryguy--> purplestar: check out mandvd
[23:25] <nickrud> joaopinto, well at least you've convinced him about security :)
[23:25] <purplestar> Fryguy--: :P
[23:25] <tonpa> is there one way to create a email server with postfix and cirus, i am novice and i would like learn but i am looking for one how to easy
[23:25] <Oli``> purplestar: back to the beginning: todisc
[23:25] <purplestar> Fryguy--: have you installed it from http://www.getdeb.net/release/2881?
[23:25] <Fryguy--> purplestar: i don't use ubuntu
[23:26] <Vinchenzo28> is their any IDE's for Ubuntu that support ASP?
[23:26] <purplestar> Oli``: E: Couldn't find package todisc
[23:26] <Fryguy--> Vinchenzo28: vim, emacs
[23:26] <Vinchenzo28> vim > emacs?
[23:26] <Stormx2> !info todisc | purplestar
[23:26] <tonpa> hay alguna manera de crear un servidor de correos usando postfix y cyrsus desde que son nuevo en esto un how to que me pudieran recomendar
[23:26] <Fryguy--> Vinchenzo28: in my opinion, yes
[23:26] <purplestar> Fryguy--: youre in ubuntu but you dont use ubuntu :P interesting :P
[23:26] <arooni> whats the name of the default .zip handler program?
[23:26] <Fryguy--> purplestar: right
[23:26] <Stormx2> arooni: file-roller
[23:26] <Vinchenzo28> Fryguy--:  thanks
[23:26] <joaopinto> purplestar, do you know any of the people that is helping your here ? :)
[23:26] <SliMM> hello
[23:26] <purplestar> !todisc
[23:26] <per> exit
[23:26] <nickrud> Vinchenzo28, eclipse has asp plugins
[23:26] <Oli``> purplestar: dude, drop the getdeb stuff. we all use getdeb but if you can't trust it, or us, don't use it
[23:27] <per> how do i exit from irssi?
[23:27] <matelot> Hi in 8.04 How to add "Run Application" to Menu ?
[23:27] <Fryguy--> per: /quit
[23:27] <SliMM> how do I set up the rsa key for ssh on the host?
[23:27] <joaopinto> per, maybe /exit or /quit
[23:27] <per> thx
[23:27] <purplestar> joaopinto: i only know Seveas and a few other regulars. I dont know anyone talking ruight now. why?
[23:27] <matelot> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=88695
[23:27] <Fryguy--> SliMM: ssh-keygen
[23:27] <ShinjinAkage> shinjin@shinjin-desktop:/media$ sudo  mount /dev/sdb /media
[23:27] <ShinjinAkage> mount: you must specify the filesystem type
[23:27] <ShinjinAkage> Can anyone help with that. It's a 8.4 GB internal Hard Drive I want to use for backing up. Only one partition.
[23:27] <Oli``> purplestar: the package is todiscgui
[23:27] <nickrud> matelot, right click the menu bar, and select edit: it's in there somewhere
[23:27] <SliMM> Fryguy--: on the server?
[23:27] <Fryguy--> ShinjinAkage: cfdisk /dev/sdb and find the partition you want to mount, and then mount that
[23:27] <purplestar> joaopinto: I wish I knew you better, because mandvd looks like what I want
[23:27] <joaopinto> purplestar, forget it... sometimes is better to quit it :)
[23:28] <Fryguy--> SliMM: client
[23:28] <Vinchenzo28> nickrud: really?
[23:28] <Vinchenzo28> nickrud: ill have to check it out asp plugins? right?
[23:28] <Fryguy--> SliMM: you generate a keypair, private stays with you, public goes on the server you are authenticating to
[23:28] <purplestar> joaopinto: I never quit.  In the words of Winston Churchill "never ever ever ever ever give up"
[23:28] <nickrud> Vinchenzo28, don't know the quality, but it's there. eclipse asp as a google search pulls up several
[23:28] <purplestar> joaopinto: you may be a quiter, but I am not
[23:28] <Vinchenzo28> nickrud: ok thanks
[23:28] <SliMM> Fryguy--: my ssh daemon says this: "Could not load host key: /etc/ssh/ssh_host_rsa_key"
[23:28] <purplestar> joaopinto: I know and trust nickrud too
[23:29] <matelot> nickrud it seems it was removed in hardy
[23:29] <joaopinto> purplestar, google.com "joao luis marques pinto"
[23:29] <purplestar> nickrud: Hello, May I please ask you to verify for me if mandvd is safe for me to install from http://www.getdeb.net/release/2881 ?
[23:29] <Fryguy--> SliMM: you need to generate keys for the server itself for fingerprinting purposes
[23:29] <Fryguy--> SliMM: it's done as part of the package install for openssh, so i dunno what you are doing
[23:29] <purplestar> joaopinto: do yuou know nickrud ?
[23:29] <Rhorse> ShinjinAkage, what you prolly want is -t vfat
[23:29] <joaopinto> SliMM, Please read http://pkeck.myweb.uga.edu/ssh/ , if you are looking for passwordless ssh logins
[23:29] <Rhorse> so sudo mount -t vfat etc...
[23:30] <Fryguy--> Rhorse: he's specifying a drive, not a partition
[23:30] <elementz> what are the correct permissions for /tmp? what would that be in chmod syntax? anybody?
[23:30] <Fryguy--> elementz: 5777 i think
[23:30] <nerdygirl> umm.. what folder at the linux headers for unbuto defalt to?
[23:30] <Fryguy--> nerdygirl: /usr/src
[23:30] <aro> I can't seem to get sound in Firefox to work, particularly Flash content. Ubuntu 8.04 with Logitech USB Headset.
[23:30] <purplestar> joaopinto: do you know nickrud ?  If so, can you ask nickrud to verify you and mandvd from that website?  if nickrud says its ok, I trust him
[23:30] <Fryguy--> nerdygirl: they aren't installed by default so you'll have to go find them and install them yourself
[23:30] <jack-desktop> why doesn't vlc close after i exit, it stays in my process list
[23:31] <Fryguy--> nerdygirl: keep in mind that doing this you are probably going to break your install and make it unbootable
[23:31] <Rhorse> oh, ok
[23:31] <the_herby> jack-desktop, do you mean vino?
[23:31] <elementz> Fryguy--, thx
[23:31] <ntoskrnl> who has Acer Aspire 5920G guys?
[23:31] <jack-desktop> the_herby: vlc, the media player.
[23:31] <SliMM> Fryguy--: ok, I think it was because I didn't sudo, but after I generated the public/private key on the client and after I copied the public key on the server and configured the daemon (properly I hope), there is still no difference, I am prompted for my password
[23:31] <nerdygirl> hmm.. break the install or not be able to access the net?!?
[23:31] <HairyDude> They say that there are at least 15 ways to lose a pair of levitation boots.
[23:31] <Fryguy--> SliMM: did you put the key in authorized_keys?
[23:32] <SliMM> I did
[23:32] <purplestar> joaopinto: i conclude then you do not know nickrud
[23:32] <SliMM> Fryguy--: I used a rsa key
[23:32] <Fryguy--> SliMM: you'll have to use -vvv to see what is going on during the key exchange then
[23:32] <SliMM> Fryguy--: client or server?
[23:32] <rsbax> has YouTube / Adobe changed the video format recently? cause totem, vlc and mplayer refuse to play the movies properly
[23:32] <joaopinto> purplestar, since you are so concerned with security, only do netbanking using a LiveCD, that way you are 99% your system is not compromised..
[23:32] <Fryguy--> nerdygirl: break the install
[23:32] <Fryguy--> SliMM: ssh -vvv user@host
[23:33] <__yy> How do I set up my wireless card to autoconnect to a specific network on boot?
[23:33] <ntoskrnl> rsbax: re-encode the video you download using FFmpeg. or WinFF.
[23:33] <purplestar> joaopinto: I feel comfortable doing Netbanking with Ubuntu installed on my HDD and only use the Ubuntu repos
[23:33] <j-ninja0> hey whats a good win emulator besides wine
[23:33] <j-ninja0> ?
[23:33] <IndyGunFreak> j-ninja0: well, do you want to pay for it?
[23:33] <rsbax> ntoskrnl: ffmpeg will be capable of reading the *.flv properly?
[23:33] <Fryguy--> j-ninja0: wine isn't an emulator. if you are looking for virtualization, check out virtualbox of vmware
[23:34] <purplestar> joaopinto: but I wont install anything outside of Ubuntu repos unless they can be verified by Seveas or nickrud or a well known regular here
[23:34] <j-ninja0> why do you think im using linux. i dont pay for software
[23:34] <Oli``> j-ninja0: Wine is not an emulator =)
[23:34] <Overand> Is there a way to use LTSP, but have a 'thin' installation on a system that can't/shouldn't boot from the network?
[23:34] <IndyGunFreak> j-ninja0: then that shows you know little about linux goals...
[23:34] <td123> j-ninja0: wine != emulator
[23:34] <Oli``> purplestar: please drop this.
[23:34] <IndyGunFreak> j-ninja0: but there's some other free options, i imagine you'll find them
[23:34] <Martinzz> Hello, I really need to get my internet working what can I do?
[23:34] <purplestar> joaopinto: dont take it personally, its not personal, i dont know you
[23:34] <purplestar> Oli``: are you an OP?
[23:34] <Oli``> purplestar: no but you're taking this too far. you can't trust getdeb. don't use it
[23:34] <joaopinto> j-ninja0, and WINE is not a pure emulator. its more like a wndows reimplementation
[23:34] <IndyGunFreak> purplestar: what are you trying to install?
[23:34] <td123> lol, purplestar playing tough guy
[23:35] <purplestar> j-ninja0: thats the way to go :)
[23:35] <william> are there any ace archive extractors?
[23:35] <ntoskrnl> rsbax: yes.
[23:35] <purplestar> IndyGunFreak: ahh hello :) I know you too and trust you
[23:35] <nickrud> purplestar, I personally use nearly nothing outside the repos
[23:35] <j-ninja0> lol ok im not going to argue i need something to make my Halo game think its running on windows (Emulator) lol
[23:35] <purplestar> IndyGunFreak: mandvd from http://www.getdeb.net/release/2881.  safe?
[23:35] <td123> william: did you check synaptic?
[23:35] <SliMM> Fryguy--: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/25087/
[23:35] <IndyGunFreak> purplestar: never heard of it but i'm w/ nickrud i don't use really anything outside the repos.
[23:36] <purplestar> nickrud: I have never installed anything outside of repos. But i want a good DVD authoring program.  joaopinto recommendd mandvd from http://www.getdeb.net/release/2881.  But I am not sure its safe
[23:36] <Fryguy--> SliMM: you pasted the key wrong
[23:36] <IndyGunFreak> purplestar: there are tools for creating dvd's in the repos i imagine
[23:36] <purplestar> IndyGunFreak: me either, thanks for looking
[23:36] <nickrud> purplestar, getdeb has a long reputation
[23:36] <td123> purplestar: just use something that's in the repos
[23:36] <purplestar> nickrud: so you think mandvd from http://www.getdeb.net/release/2881 would be rather safe?
[23:37] <Fryguy--> SliMM: the format of authorized keys is "key comment"  one per line
[23:37] <td123> purplestar: just try it
[23:37] <william> td123, i did a search for ace and 2 zillion things showed up.  i have already got anything that looked plausable aka 7-zip and any archive manager looking thing
[23:37] <j-ninja0> im just wanting an oppinion of a good one not a "need to know what" (eg. is cedega any good?)
[23:37] <SliMM> Fryguy--: in authorized_keys?
[23:37] <Oli``> It's a good thing I'm not an op >:D
[23:37] <Fryguy--> SliMM: looks like you are using puttygen, and copied the wrong thing
[23:37] <SliMM> Fryguy--: that refferes to my private key
[23:37] <nickrud> purplestar, I"ve never heard anything that says getdeb is an unreliable source. And I would if it was suspected
[23:37] <purplestar> td123: whats the best DVD authoring program in repos that help me create a DVD menu, background musc, background picture and inport my personal mpeg?  Is "todiscgui" the best one?
[23:37] <kosnick> my ubuntu crashed and so far i can not find a solution to recover it. If i install a new over the old one what will happen to the apps i already have installed? I have separate partitions for os and /home . What if i install a newer version (i had 7.04 and want to change it to 8.04)
[23:37] <SliMM> Fryguy--: line 8
[23:37] <Fryguy--> SliMM: when you use puttygen there is a box that says "copy this for openssh"
[23:37] <purplestar> nickrud: ok thanks
[23:37] <Fryguy--> SliMM: you copied the key wrong
[23:37] <SliMM> no, ssh-keygen
[23:38] <j-ninja0> cedega, any good?
[23:38] <IndyGunFreak> purplestar: ive used getdeb in the past w/o issue.. i imagien you'll be ok w/ that program.. but thats just my thinkin
[23:38] <SliMM> I'll just do it again
[23:38] <td123> purplestar: I don't know any packages that do that, mainly since I've never needed them. Just try whatever you think works and you'll learn
[23:38] <purplestar> IndyGunFreak: yeah, but I will do what you initally suggested, just stick with the ubuntu repos. thats the safest option. thanks
[23:38] <IndyGunFreak> ya
[23:38] <Rhorse> purplestar, how about dvdauthor?
[23:38] <acp_> !recovery
[23:39] <purplestar> td123: im trying todiscgui now
[23:39] <Fryguy--> kosnick: you'll lose all of your applications, but most of your settings will be restored
[23:39] <nickrud> purplestar, or, if you're feeling frisky, try compiling it yourself from the sources
[23:39] <Pici> purplestar: or devede
[23:39] <kosnick> Fryguy : thanks
[23:39] <joaopinto> DeVeDe may also do what you want, not sure
[23:39] <IndyGunFreak> devede, thats the one i was trying to rememnber
[23:39] <purplestar> Rhorse: wanted something with more options than dvdauthor. im trying todiscgui now
[23:40] <purplestar> nickrud: but how do I know the source code is reliable? I cannot understand source code.  So its the same thing. dont know if I can trust anything from outside the repos
[23:40] <Fryguy--> purplestar: so then don't
[23:40] <Oli``> purplestar: how can you trust anything in the repos?
[23:40] <purplestar> Pici: ok ill look at devede too
[23:40] <Fryguy--> purplestar: and just use the repos
[23:40] <purplestar> Fryguy--: im not going to. im tryung todiscgui now
[23:40] <nickrud> purplestar, gotta trust somewhere. The original source is what the repos start with. So, if you get the source from the original site, you're as safe as you can get
[23:40] <Fryguy--> purplestar: you are beating a dead horse at this point. you've been given numerous suggestions to your problem
[23:41] <sakura13> nabend
[23:41] <SliMM> Fryguy--: so, after I used ssh-keygen I have two files ~/.ssh and a fingerprint on the screen
[23:41] <SliMM> Fryguy--: what should I do next?
[23:41] <purplestar> ok thanks everyone. I have decided to only use ubuntu repos. And i just installed todiscgui and will try that. thanks everyone for your help
[23:41] <sakura13> hmm versteh was nicht bei ubuntu wo ist denn bittte openssh
[23:41] <Fryguy--> SliMM: you should have id_rsa and id_rsa.pub
[23:41] <Rhorse> purplestar, DVDStyler, DeVeDe, ManDVD, and tovidgui are others that I think are still actively developed.
[23:41] <joaopinto> ufff
[23:41] <SliMM> Fryguy--: I do
[23:42] <SeaPhor> i am building a new server to replace an existing server, any way to import the users, policies, and server settings, or will i need to set all up manually
[23:42] <Fryguy--> SliMM: so copy id_rsa.pub over to your server, and then "cat id_rsa.pub > ~/.ssh/authorized_keys"
[23:42] <purplestar> Rhorse: im going to try todiscgui, devede.
[23:42] <kosnick> as i said already my ubuntu crashed . i think it has to do with vars.sh . Someone proposed that i should reistall initscripts with " sudo aptitude reinstall initscripts" but when i do this i get some error with /usr/lib/libsigc-2.0.so.0 . Any explanations about it?
[23:42] <insomninja> what is the difference between /dev/random and /dev/urandom?
[23:42] <Rhorse> purplestar, OK -- Also KDE has some tools if you're ok with that dte.
[23:42] <Fryguy--> insomninja: urandom will continue to generate psuedorandom data when it runs out of entropy, random will block
[23:43] <X-m> hey
[23:43] <purplestar> Rhorse: : Couldn't find package dvdstyler
[23:43] <purplestar> Rhorse: im using Gnome, how do I use KDE?
[23:43] <Fryguy--> purplestar: just install KDE apps, and it'll just work
[23:43] <william> purplestar, have you tried "sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop"
[23:44] <purplestar> Fryguy--: which KDE apps? :P
[23:44] <magribe> Hi. I've recorded a sequence with audacity it worked perfectly but then if I try to record a second sequence while the first one is playing at the same time after a while the sound lags. What can I do?
[23:44] <SliMM> Fryguy--: then?
[23:44] <obf213> hey, i remember on the old distros there was a much more comprehesive preferred application application, for example u could choose how .doc files were opend etc. where is that? the preferred applications now has like 3 choices
[23:44] <purplestar> william: no, what does that do?
[23:44] <Fryguy--> SliMM: connect to server and it'll use the key
[23:44] <Oli``> purplestar: please don't run that
[23:44] <william> purplestar, that install kde :)
[23:44] <purplestar> what does sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop" do?
[23:44] <insomninja> Fryguy--, thanks, so random is to be preferred in an encryption context I suppose?
[23:44] <joaopinto> purplestar, I need to say this.. dvdstyler is available from getdeb :D
[23:44] <purplestar> joaopinto: hehe :)
[23:44] <Fryguy--> insomninja: yes
[23:44] <Oli``> joaopinto: >_<
[23:44] <purplestar> joaopinto: are you a regular here?
[23:44] <william> magribe, you might try the low latency kernal for that
[23:44] <joaopinto> purplestar, yes, at least during last month
[23:45] <purplestar> joaopinto: are you a programmer?
[23:45] <SliMM> Fryguy--: I'll connect using putty, from my windows machine
[23:45] <Fryguy--> SliMM: then you need to use puttygen to generate your key
[23:45] <SliMM> Fryguy--: does that matter, as long as I take the private key with me?
[23:45] <Fryguy--> or import id_rsa into puttygen and have it convert it to a .ppk for you
[23:45] <SliMM> Fryguy--: ok
[23:45] <Fryguy--> SliMM: putty uses a completely different format for keys
[23:45] <Oli``> joaopinto: now you've done it.. another 25 minutes explaining the merits and drawbacks of getdeb
[23:45] <nickrud> purplestar, this is getting repetitive, if you want to continue searching for a handle on trust over irc, please continue it on #ubuntu-offtopic
[23:45] <joaopinto> purplestar, I was i the past, google for "ptlink software", right now I just do packaging & web dev work for getdeb
[23:46] <obf213> how do i get rhythmbox to not load when i plug in my ipod?
[23:46] <purplestar> joaopinto: yuou said you compiled the mandvd deb on that website.  Did you read and understand ever line of code? If not, then how can you be sure its safe?
[23:46] <SliMM> Fryguy--: but otherwise I shouldn't be able to login from putty, right?
[23:46] <purplestar> nickrud: ok
[23:46] <Fryguy--> purplestar: the only distro that does line by line auditing of code is openbsd, if you care about that you should be running openbsd instead of anything else
[23:46] <joaopinto> purplestar, oh.. wait.. you believe the ubuntu developers read the entire source from another author when packaging :) ?
[23:46] <purplestar> Fryguy--: ok
[23:46] <Fryguy--> SliMM: you can still log in with password based authentication
[23:46] <matelot> z
[23:47] <SliMM> Fryguy--: I want to disable that
[23:47] <thunder_storm> hello everybody
[23:47] <matelot> hi
[23:47] <Fryguy--> SliMM: /etc/ssh/sshd_config
[23:47] <SliMM> Fryguy--: how can I disable that?
[23:47] <purplestar> joaopinto: nickrud has asked us to stop or go to #ubuntu-offtopic. meet you there :)
[23:47] <gavi> i seem to be having trouble applying a theme in emerald.. i imported my theme.. i see the theme inside emerald.. but theme is not applied.. why??
[23:48] <gavi> i also tried emerald --replace
[23:48] <gavi> no go
[23:48] <SliMM> Fryguy--: what should I do there?
[23:49] <Fryguy--> SliMM: read teh manpage and change the setting that corresponds to password based authentication.
[23:49] <Fryguy--> SliMM: btw, I'd recommend not doing that
[23:49] <thunder_storm> i have a question, i have a graphics-card with two dvi-connectors. If it does not matter where I connect my monitor (port 1 or 2)?
[23:49] <SliMM> Fryguy--: why's that?
[23:49] <Fryguy--> SliMM: just makes it much more difficult to log into the machine.  at least wait until you have publickeys set up correctly
[23:49] <thunder_storm> the card is a NVIDIA GeForce 8800 GT
[23:50] <Fryguy--> thunder_storm: it shouldn't matter
[23:50] <SliMM> Fryguy--: I do have physical access to the server
[23:50] <Fryguy--> SliMM: then go ahead i guess
[23:50] <corevette> ubuntu poll: http://troy-sobotka.blogspot.com/2008/07/what-do-you-think-about-ubuntu-design.html
[23:50] <SliMM> Fryguy--: a question about man
[23:50] <obf213> hmm "multimedia" tab is missing from my removable drives and media. so i can't stop rhythmbox from opening up my ipod...grr. any ideas as to what i should od
[23:50] <SliMM> Fryguy--: it says there sshd(8), what does that mean?
[23:51] <SliMM> i mean, what does the 8 stand for?
[23:51] <Fryguy--> SliMM: the manpage is broken up into numbered sections
[23:51] <Fryguy--> SliMM: i forget what all of the sections mean, it's mostly as a convention for the cases where there are 2 manpages with the same name
[23:52] <SliMM> Fryguy--: ok, thanks, how can I access section 8?
[23:52] <Fryguy--> ?
[23:52] <SliMM> just man ssh(8)?
[23:52] <leemajors> hello all
[23:52] <SliMM> sshd(8)
[23:52] <Fryguy--> SliMM: you are reading section 8...
[23:52] <nickrud> obf213, try preferred applications as a preference
[23:53] <SliMM> Fryguy--: well, I was reading sshd_config.. anyway
[23:53] <ShinjinAkage> How do I create an archive through the terminal?
[23:53] <Fryguy--> SliMM: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSHHowto
[23:53] <Fryguy--> SliMM: has what you need
[23:53] <Fryguy--> ShinjinAkage: use tar
[23:53] <obf213> nickrud, apparently in 8.04 they decided to leave out the option as to how u want to configure it i guess. i had to go to nautilus settingsk and I couldn't even but in a different command, say Floola for example
[23:53] <obf213> great design....
[23:54] <Fryguy--> ShinjinAkage: check out the manpage for tar, it has sample usage scenarios, should be everything you need
[23:54] <Fryguy--> obf213: file a bug in launchpad
[23:54] <x3> Hi Fryguy how you doing ? Got ubuntu locked and loaded and all is well
[23:54] <x3> thax
[23:54] <WebcamWonder> For installation of Flash Player 10, what is the "installation path of Mozilla, Netscape or Opera" for Firefox: /usr/lib/mozilla ?
[23:55] <Fryguy--> x3: were you the one with 3 hard drives who kept getting grub installed to the wrong one because of a mix of sata and ide?
[23:55] <nickrud> obf213, system->prefs->preferred applications multimedia tab
[23:55] <x3> I kept getting errors yea
[23:55] <obf213> nickrud, i dont have that tabs is what I am saying
[23:55] <Fryguy--> x3: so did you end up unplugging sata drives, installing, and then plugging them back in?
[23:55] <x3> apparently sata IDE drives is a no no during install
[23:56] <Fryguy--> x3: you should file a bug in launchpad about it.  It should be a resolvable issue
[23:56] <nickrud> obf213, you mentioned removeable drives & media, and yes it's not there, it's under preferred applications. And you are sure there's no multimedia tab there?
[23:56] <x3> yea I did unplug drives in the end but funny I tried it before as well but didnt work (suspect a bad burn)
[23:56] <supersako> anyone here use a wacom tablet with ubuntu?
[23:56] <Fryguy--> x3: the fact that you found a workaround is nice, but ubuntu should be able to handle that without you modifying your hardware config
[23:56] <x3> indeed
[23:57] <x3> Im battling filezzila update package synaptic pac installs a older version
[23:57] <supersako> im having trouble with my wacom bamboo in ubuntu
[23:57] <supersako> anyone have experience using wacom tablets with ubuntu??
[23:57] <x3> moment
[23:57] <onthefence928> i need to convert a .avi file to wmv what's my easiest choice?
[23:57] <nickrud> x3, I see that all the time here, you definitely should check for bugs already filed and add comments if you've got some info about it
[23:58] <x3> indeed I will keep an eye out
[23:59] <x3> but thanks for help anywho
[23:59] <gavi> i seem to be having trouble applying a theme in emerald.. i imported my theme.. i see the theme inside emerald.. but theme is not applied.. why??