[12:01] <PriceChild> JackBandit, still there?
[12:01] <recon> never mind, I used timidity.
[12:01] <un_operateur> fromvega, if you down one interface it can't be pinged ;) work on that basis ;)
[12:02] <_fnord> how do i get sound working on a laptop?in kubuntu the problem is that he external ampifyer in kmix is turned on and other stuff turned down or muted
[12:02] <eriksays> n2diy: true.  so firefox was crashing on you too?  i did read it looks related to the new flash plugin
[12:02] <qoq> I am trying to mount an NTFS partition from a Dapper Livecd, I made a windows director under /media and mounted it there, Now I can not cd into that mount or view contents graphically.. what am i doing wrong??
[12:02] <Nontitle> eriksays: going to gmail.com will crash it
[12:03] <eriksays> nontitle: here's a nice one.  going to gmail crashes opera, too
[12:03] <n2diy> eriksays: Fiirefox worked fine for me, then I tried to install the plugins, and Dapper crashed and burned.
[12:03] <Gosha> how do i make programs to start with X?
[12:03] <eriksays> n2diy: so the whole system crashed?
[12:03] <fromvega> un_operateur: but man... you didn't understand. 2 NICs=> 1st connected, 2nd disconnected: ping both! 1st disconnected, 2nd connected: ping none!
[12:03] <eriksays> n2diy: not just firefox
[12:03] <Gosha> .. or more like .. how do i set environmal variables?
[12:03] <Nontitle> the thing is, using the epiphany browser, which uses the Gecko engine, doesn't crash at all
[12:03] <Gosha> environmental?
[12:03] <Gosha> *
[12:04] <n2diy> eriksays: Yes, it was a bare metal recover, total re-install.
[12:04] <eriksays> Nontitle: does the epiphany browser run flash?
[12:04] <Nontitle> yes'
[12:04] <eriksays> Nontitle: or have a plugin, i mean
[12:04] <eriksays> thanks
[12:04] <Gosha> !scim
[12:04] <ubotu> Chinese, Japanese, Korean Language input. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SCIM
[12:04] <qoq> anyone get my earlier post? this should be pretty simple.. mounting an NTFS from a livecd
[12:04] <Nontitle> its a bit more bare than firefox but it's still okay
[12:04] <fromvega> un_operateur: shoudn't at least the one connected be pingable?
[12:04] <Nontitle> it has tabs and everything
[12:05] <eriksays> Nontitle, i do like firefox, especially the google notebooks plugin
[12:05] <cyphase_> what's the command to view log on/off history
[12:05] <Nontitle> i like the adblock extension
[12:05] <masterk> how do I skip a hard drive test?
[12:05] <Nontitle> masterk: you can't
[12:05] <un_operateur> fromvega, I dont really understand what you want -- at a local machine, an ifconfig lists both IP address and MAC addresses for all interfaces, at a remote machine, you know the ip address and mac addresses too -- if you ping a remote ip address, the interface with an ip address in that subnet is used
[12:06] <Nontitle> masterk: how big is your hard drive?
[12:06] <n2diy> cyphase_: your logs are in /var/log, any editor should be able to read them.
[12:06] <raxip> Hello
[12:06] <masterk> well i know my hard drive is fine
[12:06] <masterk> it is 20gb
[12:06] <Nontitle> it's just a thing that ubuntu does
[12:06] <_fnord> is best to still check
[12:06] <cyphase> n2diy: there's a command for it, i just can't remember it
[12:06] <Nontitle> i have a 20gb hd too, thats cool
[12:06] <`rich> cyphase, last -10 to view the most recent 10 logins.
[12:06] <masterk> but linux says its bad
[12:06] <eriksays> Nontitle: n2diy: thanks for the help, downloading epiphany now
[12:06] <cyphase> `rich
[12:06] <_fnord> mine only takes a couples minutes out of my life every 2 months
[12:07] <kr0n1x> hi, merry christmas...btw...someone know how to delete a tiscali account??? (email...)
[12:07] <cyphase> `rich: that's it, thanx
[12:07] <`rich> np
[12:07] <n2diy> cyphase, I don't know of any command to do it, I just start up gedit, and open them.
[12:07] <Nontitle> cool, i actally helped someone lol
[12:07] <benjk> what's the deb package name for libssl?
[12:07] <raxip> interest
[12:07] <Nontitle> sudo apt-get install libssl*
[12:07] <cyphase> n2diy: see `rich's comment
[12:07] <benjk> tried that, didn't work
[12:07] <Nontitle> oh
[12:08] <benjk> Package libssl is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[12:08] <Gosha> okay, then what kind of programs can i use to input japanese?
[12:08] <bodhi> Any advice on getting a MP3 Cd to play ?
[12:08] <n2diy> cyphase: or you could use system-admin-system log, roger Rich's command, never used that before.
[12:08] <bodhi> I keep getting an error "device does not exist"
[12:09] <Nontitle> libssl0.9.7 and libssl0.9.8
[12:09] <name> where is xorgconf
[12:10] <Flew>  /etx/X11/xorg.conf
[12:10] <Nontitle>  /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[12:10] <Flew> -etx +etc
[12:10] <name> nah the tool
[12:10] <benjk> hmmm
[12:10] <Gosha> gah, then. how do i use scim?
[12:10] <Gosha> >_<
[12:10] <alecjw> name:  you mean xconf? sudo aptitude install xconf
[12:10] <Nontitle> nvidia-xconfig? possibly?
[12:10] <benjk> seems I have libssl098 but
[12:10] <benjk> collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
[12:10] <`rich> xorgconfig is what he's after I think
[12:10] <_fnord> does anyone else see a large speed diffrence between kubuntu and ubuntu?
[12:10] <Nontitle> oh nvm
[12:10] <benjk> /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lssl
[12:10] <benjk> collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
[12:10] <`rich> _fnord, yeah I find ubuntu much faster, personally.
[12:11] <sirk-> how do you setup apache that all traffic gets encrypted with ssl? (I already installed ssl)
[12:11] <Nontitle> _fnord: i have both installed, i see no difference
[12:11] <`rich> it's probably a case of KDE vs. Gnome on different hardware
[12:11] <dv5237> name sudo find / -name xorgconf
[12:11] <fromvega> un_operateur, let me try to explain better. First, I'm pinging the Linux machine from another machine in the network. The Linux machine has 2 NIC's. When I connect NIC1 to the LAN (and leave NIC2 disconnected from the LAN) I can ping both NIC1 and NIC2 from another machine. BUT when I connect NIC2 to the LAN (leaving NIC1 disconnected) I can't even ping NIC2! So I'm trying to understand why
[12:11] <Nontitle> well not both installed, just kde and knome
[12:11] <Nontitle> gnome*
[12:11] <Nontitle> hey someone should invent knome lol
[12:12] <name> dv5237: i don't have it installed
[12:12] <ekimus> sirk-: you need to a) either listen on only port 443 or b) listen on 80 and 443 and redirect all traffic incoming on port 80 to port 443 (you also need to generate a certificate)
[12:12] <grimboy> Hey, how do I find out what speed I can write dvds at?
[12:12] <dv5237> name: sudo apt-get install x-window-system-core
[12:12] <hey_ian> merry christmas
[12:12] <Nontitle> hey ian
[12:13] <LinAsH> grimboy, k3b can tell you
[12:13] <grimboy> LinAsH, Thanks
[12:13] <laphawg> anyone running ubuntu on a thinkpad?
[12:13] <sirk-> ekimus, ich wrde gern den traffic von 80 auf 443 redirecten
[12:13] <sirk-> wie mache ich das am besten? geht das mit apache?
[12:13] <_fnord> Nontitle: how fast is your machine?
[12:14] <Nontitle> 1Ghz
[12:14] <sirk-> ekimus, sorry for speaking german, my mistake
[12:14] <laphawg> i can't figure out how to reactivate it when it suspends or whatever, and i have to reboot
[12:14] <_fnord> `rich: whats your computer like?ram/cpu?
[12:14] <tom_> hey guys, i've got an extra hdd in my computer, it has a bunch of permissions on it from an old comp. is there a way to mount the hdd without permissions?
[12:14] <sirk-> ekimus, I meant: how do I redirect the traffic from http:80 to https:443?
[12:14] <neurotech> merry xmas ubuntu!
[12:14] <laphawg> thats ok, sirk, we're watching joyeux noel here anyway
[12:14] <Nontitle> ram/cpu/hd 512/1G/20G
[12:15] <`rich> _fnord, nothing special. 512mb, 1.8ghz
[12:15] <un_operateur> fromvega, it's like this  <IP_ADDRESS> [machineA]  <IP_ADDRESS> <---> <IP_ADDRESS> [machineB]  <IP_ADDRESS>  -- machineB will always be able to ping <IP_ADDRESS> as long as it's up and <IP_ADDRESS> is up -- but if you had this  <IP_ADDRESS> [machineA]   <IP_ADDRESS> <---> <IP_ADDRESS> [machineB]  <IP_ADDRESS>  .. machineB will never be able to ping either of machineA's addresses,
[12:15] <name> dv5237: i have that already
[12:15] <hey_ian> laphawg: probably suspend is not supported on your machine, use the hibernate pkg
[12:15] <dv5237> name: sorry then im out op options
[12:16] <un_operateur> fromvega, the reason is -- you can only ping addresses in the same IP subnet (unless there is a router routing between the two IP networks)
[12:16] <laphawg> hey_ian, thanks, i will search for info on hibernate pkg
[12:16] <Gosha> !edgy
[12:16] <ubotu> Ubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft) is the latest version of Ubuntu. Upgrading to Edgy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EdgyUpgrades - Downloading: http://www.ubuntu.com/download - Release Notes: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseNotes
[12:16] <dv5237> !feasty
[12:16] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about feasty - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:16] <ekimus> sirk-: long story short: you need 2 virtual hosts 1 listening on port 80 and have the rewriteengine activated (http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.0/misc/rewriteguide.html#ToC2) then redirect all requests to the same url on port 443 the other listening on port 443 which will then serve the requests
[12:16] <hey_ian> laphawg: apt-cache search hibernate
[12:17] <laphawg> tks
[12:17] <ekimus> sirk-: i was just wondering how you know that I do speak german :)
[12:17] <sirk-> I just forgot speaking english ;D
[12:17] <name> can't anybody tell me in which pkg "xorgconfig" is?
[12:18] <sirk-> ekimus, may I query you?
[12:18] <ernz> Hi everyone.
[12:18] <kalila> I would like to talk so someone knowledgable of ubuntu's structure and mailing lists :)
[12:18] <fromvega> un_operateur: ok, but in my case machineA NICs IPs are <IP_ADDRESS> and <IP_ADDRESS>, and machineB ip is <IP_ADDRESS>. They are in the same subnet aren't they?
[12:18] <corevette> how do you install grub on windows?
[12:18] <ernz> Can someone please tell me how I can convert MP4 videos into 3GP that would work on my phone please?
[12:18] <ekimus> does anyone know what the HE and SE extension in the amd opteron serial numbers are for? like http://amdcompare.com/us-en/opteron/Default.aspx (see column 3 and 4 of the table for example)
[12:19] <Phat32> Hello everyone. I am working on a machine which lost it's nvidia graphics card recently due to dust and is now using an ATI graphics card. I was wondering if anyone could explain how to remove the old nvidia driver, install the ati driver, and fix xorg.conf...
[12:19] <ekimus> err sorry meant http://amdcompare.com/us-en/opteron/Default.aspx with the socket F option...
[12:20] <gordonjcp> Phat32: a good start would be to edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[12:20] <Hansel> Phat32 - did you install the other driver use apt-get?
[12:21] <Hansel> if so uninstall via the same method  :)
[12:21] <Phat32> gordonjcp, I'm not confident in my ability to edit it accurately, manually
[12:21] <Symok> Would anyone here be able to help me with a few network related questions?
[12:21] <Hansel> Symok - just ask and we'll all help if we know the answer.
[12:21] <gordonjcp> Phat32: tough shit, basically
[12:21] <Phat32> Hansel, no I haven't installed the ati driver yet
[12:21] <gordonjcp> Phat32: it's easy
[12:21] <Olathe> How do I install Sun's Java 1.6 JDK (not JRE) ?
[12:21] <PriceChild> !language gordonjcp
[12:21] <Toulouse> olathe, it might be in synaptic
[12:21] <gordonjcp> Phat32: right, there's a "default" ATI driver
[12:21] <Gosha> okay, easy one, how do i create a file in the console?
[12:21] <corevette> Phat32, uninstall in synaptic the nvidia driver, then install the ati drivers and run: sudo apt-reconfigure xserver-xortg
[12:21] <ekimus> sirk-: i just queried you...
[12:21] <gordonjcp> PriceChild: go away, you prissy imbecile
[12:22] <PriceChild> !ops
[12:22] <ubotu> Help! Keybuk, mdz, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob, Hobbsee, imbrandon, DBO, LjL, elkbuntu, Mez, tonyyarusso or gnomefreak!
[12:22] <corevette> phat32: i mean: sudo apt-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[12:22] <Symok> ok, first: Is there a way to make windows' "always on" hard drive shares visible in the network viewer?
[12:22] <Phat32> corevette, synaptic is a graphical tool...
[12:22] <Seveas> LjL, too slow ;)
[12:22] <FlyingSquirrel32> if I have aiglx/beryl installed on edgy, can I still use dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg to fix my resolution?
[12:22] <Wiseguy> hey guys has anyone used NeroLinux?
[12:22] <corevette> i know phat32
[12:22] <Hansel> Wiseguy - no... but we have all used ubuntu I imagine.
[12:22] <Toulouse> lol
[12:23] <hey_ian> Wiseguy: yeah
[12:23] <Gosha> >_<
[12:23] <kitche> Phat32: you just do sudo apt-get --purge remove nvidia-glx also
[12:23] <LjL> Seveas: 'course, i'm still taken by childish full-screen platform games
[12:23] <jughead> I have used and am using ubuntu Wiseguy
[12:23] <Wiseguy> Hansel, its a burning app douche
[12:23] <Phat32> corevette, How can I use a graphical tool when I can't use X
[12:23] <corevette> go into recovery mode phat32
[12:23] <Wiseguy> does it work wel?
[12:23] <Toulouse> hey this is probably obviouse, but do yall know the name of the default gnome irc client that is pre-installed in ubuntu?
[12:23] <jughead> is it just a version of nero burning rom for linux?
[12:23] <Wiseguy> yes
[12:23] <hey_ian> Wiseguy: But in comparison to k3b it is garbage!!!
[12:23] <Hansel> Wiseguy - sounded like a custom distro for burning (I'm familiar with Nero)  No need to speak of your mothers genitals
[12:23] <PriceChild> Toulouse, gaim
[12:23] <PriceChild> Toulouse, it does a lot more than irc
[12:23] <Toulouse> gaim does it? oh man thanks
[12:24] <PriceChild> Toulouse, I prefer to use xchat-gnome though
[12:24] <Toulouse> i knew it did aim
[12:24] <Wiseguy> hey_ian, really? k3b is better?
[12:24] <bulmer> Phat32: you can always boot off of the liveCD and then modify your /etc/X11/xorg.conf on your hard disk
[12:24] <Toulouse> ok, ill try those, thanks guys
[12:24] <Phat32> kitche, What about nvidia-kernel-common ???
[12:24] <jughead> I like K3B for burning
[12:24] <idlemind> has anyone used the nero software for linux yet?
[12:24] <un_operateur> fromvega, it should always be possible to ping those addresses (even though it is not a good idea to have two interfaces have IP addresses in the same subnet) .. I cant really say unless I know how the physical setup of your network is structured
[12:24] <Seveas> LjL, I have a better game, figthing IE :/
[12:24] <Phat32> bulmer, I like that idea
[12:24] <kitche> Phat32: have to remove that as well I tend to use aptitude since it follows dependencies
[12:24] <hey_ian> Wiseguy: of course, it has the same functions like nero, but is integrated better and is open source!!!
[12:24] <PriceChild> idlemind, what's wrong with gnomebaker?
[12:24] <FlyingSquirrel32>  can I still use dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg with beryl installed?
[12:24] <PriceChild> FlyingSquirrel32, yes
[12:25] <PriceChild> FlyingSquirrel32, but don't expect beryl to work afterwards
[12:25] <Hansel> heh
[12:25] <FlyingSquirrel32> PriceChild: nice.
[12:25] <LjL> Seveas: IE as in the browser?
[12:25] <fromvega> un_operateur: so one NIC might be down if it's connected but I can't ping it?
[12:25] <Seveas> yes
[12:26] <LjL> Seveas: as in who-cares-if-ubuntu-nl.org-doesn't-quite-render-on-it?
[12:26] <PriceChild> lol
[12:26] <FlyingSquirrel32> PriceChild: I set a machine up for someone and when they took it home their monitor doesn't do the resolution it was set at. how can I lower the resolution so it can start?
[12:26] <juanchito2006> Hello, I've got an strange issue while the ubuntu's startup gets blank until the logon screen
[12:26] <PriceChild> FlyingSquirrel32, you could manually edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf to remove the other resolutions?
[12:27] <juanchito2006> It seems out of frequency
[12:27] <juanchito2006> How can I fix it
[12:27] <FlyingSquirrel32> PriceChild: never done that before, but I guess it's time to learn how. Thanks.
[12:27] <PriceChild> FlyingSquirrel32, make a backup! :)
[12:28] <bulmer> for those that are using NVidia whats the "Driver" name you have set in your /etc/X11/xorg.conf? mine is "nv" is that optimum?
[12:28] <PriceChild> !nvidia | bulmer
[12:28] <ubotu> bulmer: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[12:28] <toulouse> i have a question, if i try to play a .mov or .avi or some other quicktime-ish format, it just tries with totem-or kaffeine then says it couldnt play it
[12:28] <erUSUL> !nvidia | bulmer
[12:28] <un_operateur> fromvega, It probably is because MachineB is confused about where exactly which address is after you switch them around -- maybe you need to flush out the arp cache on machineB to get it working again
[12:28] <kitche> bulmer: nv is the open source version of nvidia made by X.org
[12:28] <Bas|K> hey all
[12:28] <Greevous> toulouse you should have the right codecs installed first
[12:29] <FlyingSquirrel32> PriceChild: ok, thanks.
[12:29] <toulouse> ok
[12:29] <Greevous> toulouse: or perhaps the plugins
[12:29] <un_operateur> fromvega, and/or restart the networking daemon on machineA
[12:29] <bulmer> kitche: curious as to which do you use for this NVidia?
[12:29] <toulouse> ummm i  havent installed any diff. codecs
[12:29] <toulouse> should i go to synaptic
[12:29] <Symok> I like this interface better
[12:29] <Bas|K>  http://tinyurl.com/yfqmr9
[12:29] <Greevous> toulouse: i use automatix to get some of those
[12:29] <PriceChild> !codecs | toulouse
[12:29] <ubotu> toulouse: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[12:29] <toulouse> ok
[12:29] <Greevous> it seemed to work for me
[12:29] <kitche> bulmer: I use nvidia driver sicne I like direct rendering and I play tremulous once in a while
[12:30] <PriceChild> !automatix | Greevous
[12:30] <ubotu> Greevous: automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[12:30] <FlyingSquirrel32> PriceChild: ok, so it looks pretty simple, just remove the resolutions we don't want... anything else I should know before I should go?
[12:30] <Greevous> okay
[12:30] <PriceChild> FlyingSquirrel32, make sure you've already made a backup
[12:30] <Greevous> Automatix has always worked for me and my friend
[12:30] <FlyingSquirrel32> ok. ciao.
[12:30] <Greevous> and since it has plug-ins...
[12:30] <bulmer> kitche: that "sicne" something that came with your video card cdrom or something you download from their site to optimize your video?
[12:30] <trev_> ok, if i want to make a shared network folder on my computer for my lan can anyone tell me how to do that?
[12:30] <PriceChild> !WorksForMe | Greevous
[12:30] <ubotu> Greevous: Common Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should. Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability.
[12:30] <SurfnKid> Ho Ho Ho, Merry Christmas
[12:31] <Greevous> ubotu: i understand
[12:31] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about i understand - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:31] <kitche> bulmer: install nvidia-glx from synaptic then open upa  terminal and type sudo nvidia-glx-config enable then restart X with ctrl+alt+backspace
[12:31] <PriceChild> Greevous, ubotu is a bot
[12:31] <Greevous> whoops
[12:31] <Symok> Would anyone know why I can access network shares on other(windows) computers, but I can't ping them by their LAN IPs?
[12:31] <PriceChild> !nvidia | bulmer
[12:31] <ubotu> bulmer: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[12:31] <bulmer> kitche: thanks
[12:31] <ink251> how do I pass options to the ipw2200 wireless module built into the kernel? Options like you would pass with modprobe.
[12:31] <fromvega> un_operateur: from the Linux machine (machineA), when NIC1 is connected I can ping machineB, but when NIC2 is connected I can't. Something is wrong right? Is it because both NIC have ip from the same subnet or not?
[12:32] <Symok> (or connect to the FTP i'm running on one of them, 'no route to host')
[12:32] <kitche> PriceChild: bulmer just wanted to know what driver was better(as in best performance for the nvidia card)
[12:32] <PriceChild> kitche, he also asked where this was obtained from 23:30
[12:33] <ink251> how do I pass options to the ipw2200 wireless module built into the kernel? Options like you would pass with modprobe.
[12:33] <un_operateur> fromvega, thats where your problem about distinguishing IP subnets comes in -- how does the kernel know which interface to send packets out through if the destination is the same IP subnet as two of the connected interfaces??
[12:33] <xyz> is fd0 the floppy drive ?
[12:34] <ekimus> xyz: /dev/fd0? yes
[12:34] <un_operateur> fromvega, simple rule in networking : never ever assign IP addresses to multiple interfaces in the IP subnet, you will always have looping problems
[12:34] <xyz> omg i have installed grub in the wrong place
[12:34] <xyz> i didnt puy /dev/
[12:34] <ekimus> xyz: so? just reinstall it in the right place
[12:34] <xyz> how
[12:35] <fromvega> un_operateur: ok, thank you! I'll try to fix it
[12:35] <juanchito2006> !startup screen missing outof frequency
[12:35] <xyz> !grub
[12:35] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[12:35] <fatlip> malikeye: hey you there?
[12:35] <juanchito2006> !startup
[12:35] <ubotu> To add programs to start up when you log into your Gnome session https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AddingProgramToSessionStartup
[12:35] <un_operateur> fromvega, not only will that confuse MachineA(the sender) it will also confuse MachineB(the reciever) because machineB will say "hang, on, i got one packet from one MAC address, another from another MAC address, but they are in the same subnet, which MAC address do i reply to??)
[12:36] <trev_> should you have hdparm running as a service?
[12:36] <Hansel> yes
[12:36] <un_operateur> trev_, hdparm as a service??
[12:37] <ajj> i'm trying to instll ubuntu, is there anyway i can install it using a cd drive emulator like alcohol, or do i have to burn it to a disc and boot it from there?
[12:37] <trev_> yeah, its in the service settings under system/administration
[12:37] <ajj> :(
[12:37] <_fnord> whats that comand, lspcmica?
[12:37] <name> dammit is there any good X config tool/
[12:37] <tanubis_> Just got an Ipod Nano, itunes doesn't run in linux.  Apparently, you can do some interesting things with it if you put linux on it... anyone now how to go about doing cool things with it?
[12:37] <un_operateur> whatis hdparm : hdparm (8)           - get/set hard disk parameters
[12:37] <name> tanubis_: amarok
[12:37] <Hansel> name - vi makes a good config tool for the config file  :)
[12:37] <name> oh wait
[12:37] <name> Hansel: na
[12:37] <name> Hansel: i want some tool
[12:37] <un_operateur> tanubis, check out the ipodlinux website
[12:37] <xyz>  1K-blocks      Used Available Use% Mounted on
[12:37] <xyz> unionfs                1165328    677012    488316  59% /
[12:37] <name> dual view support
[12:37] <xyz> this doesnt seem rite
[12:38] <fromvega> un_operateur, but shoudn't it reply to the ip and mac that it received the ping request from?
[12:38] <name> with one CRT and one TFT
[12:38] <fromvega> un_operateur, 2 ip, 2 mac. 2 different places. Shoudn't be a problem for machineB. Am I right?
[12:38] <juanchito2006> Ubotu is a bot!!! I can't believe it :-o
[12:38] <juanchito2006> Ubotu is a bot!!! I can't believe it :-O
[12:38] <kitche> tanubis_: ipodlinux does not work on the newer nanos
[12:39] <xyz> juanchito2006:i know
[12:39] <un_operateur> fromvega, well, yes, thats how it works -- but since MachineA cant make up it's mind as to which interface to send out packets to the same subnet, it's likely it will use one port one time, another port another and that will confuse it's recipients
[12:39] <xyz> :)
[12:39] <fromvega> un_operateur, for machineB it should act like 2 different machines...
[12:39] <fromvega> hum
[12:39] <fromvega> now I understand
[12:39] <un_operateur> fromvega, right, ok, thats one good way of seeing it
[12:40] <xyz> i cant sort this grub thing out please help
[12:40] <PriceChild> xyz what is wrong?
[12:40] <toulouse> so once i nstall all of those packages from the multimedia site on ubuntu.help my video playing should work right?
[12:40] <xyz> i installed it in (fd0) instead of /dev/fd0
[12:40] <PriceChild> toulouse, should do :)
[12:40] <toulouse> thanks :))))))
[12:41] <fromvega> un_operateur, linux kernel must process the ping not the NIC itself (right?), so in fact it problably is receiving the packets from machineB but responds to the wrong NIC.
[12:41] <xyz> PriceChild:i still havent loged off
[12:41] <corevette> how do you install grub on windows drive?
[12:41] <xyz> using the live cd
[12:41] <kitche> xyz: well to make a grub rescue disk it's a bit different then how you install it to a hard drive
[12:41] <un_operateur> fromvega, if you ever work on cisco/juniper/nortel routers -- you'll see they prohibit you from assigning IP address in the same subnet to different interfaces -- simply because it breaks a lot of things (as you see) and it's bad design -- also, the whole point of a router is to connect different networks -- not connect the same network (thats a job of a switch)
[12:41] <Apollo> anyone recommend a streaming video capture app especially for youtube.com?
[12:41] <juanchito2006> !startup
[12:41] <ubotu> To add programs to start up when you log into your Gnome session https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AddingProgramToSessionStartup
[12:41] <xyz> kitche:will i have to log off
[12:42] <PriceChild> Apollo, I don't think you're legally allowed to take video off of the youtube site... just stream it on demand
[12:42] <nn> un_operateur: i assign different IPs from the same subnet to several cards in a machine on my terminal server
[12:42] <kitche> xyz: yes but how you installed grub to the floppy isn't really the correct way not sure if it will work
[12:42] <nn> un_operateur: but it's a rare case
[12:42] <fromvega> un_operateur: ;) thank you very much!
[12:42] <xyz> yeh i have no grub ,that the problem
[12:43] <xyz> and now i dont know how linux installed
[12:43] <_fnord> how do i upgrade from 5.10
[12:43] <xyz> ohh man
[12:43] <un_operateur> fromvega, the kernel reponds to IP addresses by enclosing frames destined to MAC addresses from those within it's arp cache
[12:43] <un_operateur> nn, are you using a form of load balancing on the server?
[12:43] <_fnord> !upgrade
[12:43] <ubotu> For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[12:44] <un_operateur> nn, IP load balancing i.e.?
[12:44] <nn> un_operateur: sorta, i refuse clients
[12:44] <freenet> I installed a package that doesn't let me uninstall it because of an error in postrm. How do I clean this up and ignore the postrm error?
[12:44] <Apollo> pricechild: i have uploaded video to the site and I can't recover the video? It is a storage faculty to myself! Home video?
[12:44] <nn> un_operateur: if more than X clients are connected to the IP, i refuse them, and they try the next "server"
[12:44] <nn> un_operateur: kinda like how /etc/resolv.conf works
[12:45] <un_operateur> nn, so it is load balancing basically
[12:45] <orangey> hey all..
[12:45] <nn> un_operateur: in a ghetto sense, yea
[12:45] <PriceChild> !hi | orangey
[12:45] <ubotu> orangey: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[12:45] <orangey> when running a vncserver, it fails, and tells me I need a fixed font
[12:45] <orangey> however, what package does that come from?
[12:46] <un_operateur> nn, does the server connect up to a switch/router that does ip load balancing?
[12:46] <orangey> I think I have all the necessary ones - xfree-font, etc.
[12:46] <Hansel> x11-fonts prolly
[12:46] <nn> un_operateur: no
[12:46] <xyz> now it wont even mount a floppy drive
[12:46] <nn> un_operateur: just several ports on a gigabit switch
[12:46] <un_operateur> nn, i'm amazed you havent come across any troubles as of yet ..
[12:46] <nn> un_operateur: why?
[12:47] <orangey> Hansel: there is no such package I can find.
[12:47] <nn> un_operateur: only issue i had was i had to set up dhcpd to only broadcast on one interface,because it was confusing itself
[12:48] <toulouse> arrgh ok, so i installed the various media packages, but .... it wont play wmv files because it needs a decoder, any tips?
[12:49] <PriceChild> !w32codecs | toulouse
[12:49] <ubotu> toulouse: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[12:49] <un_operateur> nn, like i was saying -- when the server replies to clients -- how does it's kernel know which interface to use to send frames out of? if for example clients from <IP_ADDRESS>/255 connect upto it .. and half connect upto one interface and half to another, the server has a 50% chance of choosing either with no definitive path
[12:49] <PriceChild> toulouse, you need "w32codecs"... it is outlined on the wiki how to get it
[12:49] <toulouse> o :!
[12:49] <toulouse> thanks
[12:49] <jughead> i'm getting w32codecs right now; it's not very difficult
[12:50] <nn> un_operateur: Ohh, i think i misunderstood what you meant previously
[12:50] <fromvega> un_operateur, if the kernel knows from which MAC the packet was received, shoudn't it send the response from the same MAC?
[12:50] <nn> arp caching
[12:51] <Twiztr> Question;
[12:51] <un_operateur> nn, so, not only does that disrupt intermediate routers' and switches' arp tables because they are made up on the fly -- if one time,  one MAC address is used and another another is used, it puts a load on those devices
[12:51] <nn> un_operateur: hm
[12:52] <kitche> !ask|Twiztr
[12:52] <ubotu> Twiztr: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[12:52] <xyz> will this fix my grub problems
[12:52] <xyz> http://doc.gwos.org/index.php/Restore_Grub
[12:52] <fromvega> how do I make changes in the ip_forward file permanent? I do not want to type "sudo sh -c "echo 1 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward" every reboot.
[12:53] <Cantankerous> I have seen IP conversations where a client was talking to interface A of the server but the server always replied from interface B (same IP address). This confused the switches because interface A was never a source MAC so every packet to the server was flooded as a multicast.
[12:53] <un_operateur> fromvega, yes, thats how its supposed to work  -- but how does the recepient know which MAC address is the right one, if there are many??
[12:53] <Twiztr> I am running MEPIS liveCD and trying to install it. I partitioned HDB [b1 is a Windows drive b2 is the /root b3 is the swap, and b4 is /home]
[12:53] <kitche> Twiztr: ask in #mepis
[12:54] <Twiztr> so it installed, and then rebooted  (not from cd) it never asked me for a bootloader setting, so when the box rebooted, it did so into Windows
[12:54] <Twiztr> And Windows System is in HDA
[12:54] <kitche> Twiztr: might want to ask it in #mepis if it deals with mepis
[12:54] <un_operateur> Cantankerous, yes, there's a high chance of a broadcast storm happening especially in a cascaded switched network
[12:55] <DIL> can an .exe program be installed on a linux system
[12:56] <toulouse> dil, use wine
[12:56] <un_operateur> DIL, it can be run from under wine
[12:56] <xyz> is there a devicew called fd0 in ubuntu
[12:56] <fromvega> un_operateur: I'm still confused about this MAC issue. The machine have 2 MACs, the packet is received from one MAC, the kernel send the response from that MAC. What's the confusing issue?
[12:56] <DIL> thanks!
[12:56] <Cantankerous> floppy disk 0
[12:57] <xyz> the ehat is /dev/fd0
[12:57] <xyz> then what is /dev/fd0
[12:57] <un_operateur> fromvega, if the sender machine has two MAC addresses and there's a 50% chance that either will be used in communications to one single host -- how does the client know which MAC address to use in reponses back to the sender???
[12:57] <idlemind> xyz: fd0 is just that: /dev/fd0
[12:57] <kitche> xyz: floppy disk 0 is what /dev/fd0
[12:58] <xyz> them my grub did work
[12:59] <xyz> thats if fd0 is /dev/fd0
[12:59] <Cantankerous> un_operator: depends which MAC answered the ARP request
[12:59] <xyz> ok im rebooting now
[12:59] <xyz> wish me luck
[12:59] <Phat32> How can I view the channel history
[12:59] <Phat32> I can
[12:59] <Phat32> I can't scroll up high enough*
[01:00] <un_operateur> fromvega, it's like this -- you send me letters all the time from your addresses i.e. 10, foobar lane  and 20, bazquux road -- one time you use one address another time another -- which one should i trust is your actual one? ok, i might keep a track and reply to the exact one used in the original letter but why put me through the bother? it's an unnecessary load on my part when ideally you could just use one address al
[01:00] <un_operateur> l the time
[01:00] <Hansel> pgup?  if it doesn't go high enough you need to set a larger history setting
[01:00] <willskills> Phat32, what client do you use? Xchat only keeps 300 lines as a default.......
[01:00] <Phat32> xchat
[01:00] <willskills> you can change it in Settings :)
[01:01] <Phat32> someone had typed out a command for generating a new xorg.conf file I think
[01:01] <Phat32> or maybe it was like dpkg reconfigure ?
[01:01] <Phat32> Hello everyone. I am working on a machine which lost it's nvidia graphics card recently due to dust and is now using an ATI graphics card. I was wondering if anyone could explain how to remove the old nvidia driver, install the ati driver, and fix xorg.conf...
[01:02] <Phat32> I tried using the xorg.conf from the live cd and it didn't work
[01:02] <un_operateur> Cantankerous, yes, but if the source MAC address is constantly being changed for a source IP address, it puts an unecessary load on the intermediate switch and recepient host - because they have to keep changing and updating the arp table for every different frame
[01:02] <leprasmurf> hello all
[01:02] <Cantankerous> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[01:02] <leprasmurf> trying to install the rt2500 drivers for my wireless card.  Got the drivers, but when I try 'make' in the directory, I get the error make[1] : *** No rule to make target `modules'.  Stop.
[01:02] <kitche> Phat32: you remove nvidia-glx by sudo apt-get --purge remove nvidia-glx I would just use the open source ati driver until you get X working again
[01:03] <eimajenthat> I just installed banshee and banshee-daap, but I get an error that the Music Sharing plugin could not be initialized.  Any suggestions?
[01:04] <fromvega> un_operateur: but and what about INSIDE the machine that have 2 NICs. If it receives a ping request from one NIC, does it replies using the same NIC? I mean, NIC2 received a ping request, the reponse shouldn't be sent from it? Or things do not work this way?
[01:04] <Cantankerous> I don't think there is normally any checking of the source MAC address when receiving an IP packet. ARP refresh is optional IIRC
[01:05] <un_operateur> fromvega, it's not so much a problem if it's just two hosts -- but if there are many hosts -- then it becomes a problem -- the sender with two mac addresses is not guaranteed to recieve all frames via one interface
[01:05] <xyz> its worked
[01:05] <brian|geeknik> Good evening.
[01:05] <xyz> ;)
[01:05] <bruenig> !hi | brian|geeknik
[01:05] <ubotu> brian|geeknik: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[01:05] <Phat32> thankyou very much guys
[01:05] <xyz> evening
[01:05] <Phat32> I am using X again
[01:06] <Phat32> I'll take it from here
[01:06] <bruenig> !thanks | Phat32
[01:06] <ubotu> Phat32: You're welcome! But keep in mind I'm just a bot ;-)
[01:06] <un_operateur> Cantankerous, ohh, the MAC addresses are always checked -- because thats how switches know the topology of a network, the states of links and build Spanning Trees with
[01:07] <brian|geeknik> I just downloaded the Ubuntu 6.10 ISO for AMD64 systems. It's been years, and I mean YEARs since I ran linux( think slackware with kernel 1.2.13). ;) Anyways, it gave me some error about my AGP Aperture and then some weird authentication error and then told me to remove the CD from my drive and hit enter after closing the tray, and then I had to push the reset button.
[01:08] <Hansel> brian - try the alternate cd that has a textmode installer...
[01:09] <Cantankerous> un_operator - yes, but that has no effect on ARP. Switches just learn where each MAC is. If a server has multiple MACS with the same IP, you could in theory send to any one although in practice you would only send to the MAC in teh current ARP table. IP responses could come from any interface and therefore have any of tose MAC addresses. This does not affect the packet meanings at IP level
[01:09] <brian|geeknik> Hansel: I just wanted to try out the OS w/o installing actually. =)
[01:09] <Hansel> oh.. :(
[01:09] <Trynemjoel> Is there a graphic WLAN-connection program for GNOME desktop? haven't managed to find one
[01:10] <brian|geeknik> I'm not 100% ready to make the switch until I get a secondary computer(I stream audio to a server via Helix Producer Plus(from RealMedia)) and I don't think there is an alternative for Linux. ;)
[01:10] <bruenig> !network-manager-gnome
[01:10] <ubotu> network-manager-gnome: network management framework (GNOME frontend). In component main, is optional. Version 0.6.3-2ubuntu6 (edgy), package size 245 kB, installed size 1608 kB
[01:10] <digin4> why isn't there xchat for ubuntu? i can only find xchat-gnome, which i don't like at all :(
[01:10] <bruenig> !info xchat
[01:10] <ubotu> xchat: IRC client for X similar to AmIRC. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.6.6-0ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 275 kB, installed size 760 kB
[01:10] <xyz> do you install beryl first or the drivers ?
[01:10] <bruenig> digin4, there is, you need to enable universe to install it
[01:10] <frogger0> !sources
[01:10] <xyz> and dose it make a diffrence
[01:10] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[01:11] <digin4> bruenig: how do i enable that in edgy?
[01:11] <bruenig> digin4, have you ever messed with your /etc/apt/sources.list
[01:11] <digin4> bruenig: no sir!
[01:11] <bingnet922> new question: I compiled and installed ffmpeg from svn because I couldn't get the repo version to encode mp3 when transcoding video. It still doesn't work though I've enabled mp3/lame. What am I missing?
[01:12] <bingnet922> I'm using 6.10
[01:12] <bruenig> digin4, ok, then run, the following, it will enable all the extra repositories, update, then install xchat, sudo sed -e 's/# deb/deb/g' -e 's/edgy universe/edgy universe multiverse/g' -e 's/edgy-security universe/edgy-security universe multiverse/g' -i.backup /etc/apt/sources.list && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install xchat
[01:12] <rysiek|pl> anybody here uses/knows unionfs?
[01:12] <kitche> bingnet922: did you install lame?
[01:12] <fromvega> un_operateur: but in my case, the linux machine have 2 NICs but only one is connected, and I can't ping it. If the kernel can send the reponse from either NICs I understand the problem, but if kernel sends the response from the same NIC that have received it I do not understand why it's not pingable:\
[01:12] <rysiek|pl> if I use unionfs, do I need to have the branched dirs mounted somewhere already?
[01:12] <bruenig> digin4, copy everything after the comma, all on one line
[01:12] <digin4> bruenig: i thank thee sire!
[01:12] <bruenig> digin4, if you want to tray icon, do sudo apt-get install xchat-systray after all of that runs through
[01:12] <bruenig> s/to/the*
[01:13] <digin4> ok thanks :):)
[01:13] <Cantankerous> fromvega: The un-connected NIC should detect lack of cable and go inactive, even if it _does_ have the same IP address.
[01:14] <cyphase> hmm, Gajim 0.11 looks pretty good
[01:14] <cyphase> nice interface
[01:14] <Trynemjoel> Where do i find the window for network-manager-gnome ? The network status window in my systray wont see my eth1 but its visible in "iwconfig" in the terminal
[01:14] <un_operateur> fromvega, just dont assign IP addresses in the same IP subnet to multiple interfaces on the same machine -- keep it simple
[01:14] <frogger0> how can i solve this problem -->  gpgv: keyblock resource `/home/kneipe/.gnupg/trustedkeys.gpg': general error
[01:14] <toulouse> hey guys, i use beep media player for my internet radio and streamtuner to find my stations, but sometime the beepmediaplayer hiccups and quits playing, any suggestions?
[01:14] <Stormx2> Trynemjoel: Tried "killall gnome-panel" ?
[01:14] <Cantankerous> fromvga: ifconfig should tell you what IP addresses you have, and ective interfaces should include the word RUNNING
[01:15] <fromvega> Cantankerous: the NICs do not have the same IP dude
[01:15] <fromvega> un_operateur: ok... just want to understand hehehe
[01:15] <toulouse> and it doesnt support all the streams streamtuner  has to offer
[01:15] <Stormx2> toulouse: BMP is old. It's been forked twice. If you like killing kittens, I suggest you get BMPx. If you are not evil, go with Audacious
[01:15] <un_operateur> fromvega, I could explain better if i had a whiteboard -- its hard using words :)
[01:15] <bingnet922> kitche: Hi, I did install lame. I checked this with $apt-get install lame which responded "0 newly installed"
[01:15] <Stormx2> toulouse: audacious-media-player.org
[01:15] <toulouse> audacious, ok ima look for it, does it need any seperate packages?
[01:16] <Stormx2> toulouse: Don't think so...
[01:16] <toulouse> thanks man
[01:16] <frogger0> how can i solve this problem -->  gpgv: keyblock resource `/home/kneipe/.gnupg/trustedkeys.gpg': general error
[01:16] <Stormx2> toulouse: if it does you can get em from the repos ;)
[01:16] <bruenig> frogger0, general error, hmm that is pretty specific
[01:16] <bruenig> !repeat | frogger0
[01:16] <ubotu> frogger0: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly, if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[01:16] <fromvega> Cantankerous: both NICs are RUNNING and have different IPs...
[01:16] <Stormx2> toulouse: There is an ubuntu maintainer for it I think...
[01:16] <Trynemjoel> That just killed all my systray icons Stormx2, no status/management window for my WLAN
[01:16] <frogger0> thx
[01:16] <toulouse> ok
[01:16] <Stormx2> Trynemjoel: Eek, sorry.
[01:17] <toulouse> thanks dude
[01:17] <xyz> how do i install opera in the terminal
[01:18] <Trynemjoel> well, can i config my Wifi-card from the terminal as a temp solution?
[01:18] <bruenig> xyz, you have to add repos, or I can find the deb and give you a wget + dpkg command that will do it if you wish
[01:18] <un_operateur> xyz, you need to have the canonical commercial or opera repositories added to your sources.list
[01:18] <bruenig> xyz, what version of ubuntu are you using
[01:19] <xyz> 6.10
[01:19] <xyz> edgy eft
[01:19] <xyz> E: Couldn't find package opera
[01:19] <xyz> :-/
[01:19] <Naabo> heya all..anyone can tell me how to setup ftp so i can delete all in www root by ftp?
[01:19] <xyz>  bruenig:please do
[01:20] <Hansel> Naabo - which ftpd are you using?
[01:20] <Naabo> proftpd
[01:20] <Hansel> lookup the defaultroot  option
[01:20] <Cantankerous> fromvga: maybe I shouldn't have jumped in the middle of a conversation. Anyway, to make IP forwarding permanent, there's an entry in /etc/network/options - add a line "#ip_forward=yes
[01:20] <Hansel> set it for one of your users that you want to be able to edit www pages.
[01:20] <Cantankerous> fromvga: dammit - don't put the hash in front
[01:21] <fromvega> un_operateur: ok, no problem. thank you very much! Merry Xmas! Bye!
[01:21] <fromvega> Cantankerous: tks dude! Merry Xmas bye!
[01:21] <fromvega> bye!
[01:21] <xyz>  bruenig:im waiting in vain
[01:22] <xyz> for your repos
[01:22] <bruenig> xyz, wget  ftp://get.opera.com/pub/opera/linux/910/final/en/i386/shared/opera_9.10-20061214.6-shared-qt_en_i386.deb && sudo dpkg -i opera_9.10-20061214.6-shared-qt_en_i386.deb
[01:22] <Naabo> well i can see owner..but as i ry to delite some dir's in there it says permission denied..
[01:22] <bruenig> xyz, they had it setup with mirrors, so I had to navigate the ftp index until I could find an exact link
[01:22] <Hansel> Naabo - you also need to chmod the directory so the user can actually make changes let alone get chrooted to it
[01:23] <SmashCat> Hello, anyone know of a site where I can find a list of available apt packages?
[01:23] <Naabo> chmod the dir 777?
[01:23] <kitche> SmashCat: packages.ubuntu.com
[01:23] <variant> Naabo: no, 775 at most
[01:24] <derek_> Hi
[01:24] <trev_> ok, i was just trying to share a folder using the nautilus GUI and samba, how do i acess the folder that is on ubuntu with windows XP
[01:24] <Cantankerous> fromvga: bye - Merry Christmas
[01:24] <SmashCat> kitche: Thanks! I wonder if apt will have a search option one day (like yum)!
[01:24] <derek_> Where can I tell my views if I like some feature in Ubuntu?
[01:24] <kitche> SmashCat: umm apt-cache
[01:24] <kitche> SmashCat: it had it for a while
[01:25] <Trynemjoel> Is there a command to list LAN-connections? trying to find the IP to my Access point :)
[01:25] <Hansel> derek_ - you can setup a video camera and post it on youtube  hehe.
[01:26] <derek_> :)
[01:26] <SmashCat> kitche: So apt-cache is a search tool? Weird name! ;-)
[01:26] <derek_> SmashCat, apt-cache is a cache of the list of programs available
[01:27] <derek_> SmashCat, you search like this: apt-cache search xchat
[01:27] <Naabo> hmmm now i chmod the www dir 755--ftp and see owner same as ftp acc...still can't add dirs/delete files..
[01:27] <Trynemjoel> Is there a command to list LAN-connections? trying to find the IP to my Access point :)
[01:28] <xyz> didnt work
[01:28] <kitche> xyz: ok now here is the fun part
[01:28] <_fnord> im trying to get the sound to work on my laptop
[01:29] <neuro_> scuze me a sec
[01:29] <neuro_> !language neuro_
[01:29] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about language neuro_ - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:29] <neuro_> !language
[01:29] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[01:30] <SmashCat> derek_: Thanks, I usually only use Fedora/RH and Gentoo, so I'm not familiar with apt. I'm just setting up a desktop for someone and they wanted Ubuntu. The installer didn't allow RAID setup and hasn't picked up the hardware properly (only allowing 1024x768 on a 1920x1200 display ;-) I don't mind editing xorg.conf, but it's not very user friendly for a newbie!
[01:30] <xyz> hot do i reboot in the terminal
[01:30] <toulouse> hey guys, is xmms useful? im looking for a pain-free internet radio player
[01:31] <Hansel> toulouse - yes.  It's "useful"
[01:31] <needhelp> I try to run a Windows-game through wine. But an Windows-error pops up saying "Allication Error: An integer divide by zero was encountered at address ...... Click on OK to terminate the application"
[01:31] <hansaki> anyone know what runs on TCP port DPT=64789 /
[01:31] <needhelp> How can I fix that error?
[01:31] <Hansel> hansaki - probably a backdoor
[01:31] <hansaki> anyone know what runs on TCP port DPT=64789  ? and anything about secuirity / hacking on this port?  i am getting lost of hits
[01:31] <kitche> xyz: http://pastebin.ca/291311 is how to install grub to a floppy
[01:31] <Hansel> needhelp - which application?  Have you read the winehq webpage for info on that app and particular error?
[01:31] <toulouse> well, do you think it's going to be stable on internet radio? b/c i tried beep media player and it works--some of the time
[01:32] <toulouse> i dont know why though
[01:32] <hansaki> Hansel: why do you say that
[01:32] <xyz> kitche:i dont it ,thani you
[01:32] <Hansel> hansaki - that is a very high port number
[01:33] <Hansel> hansaki - most legitimate services run under 1000  :)
[01:33] <xyz> any one have a clue how to reboot in the terminal
[01:33] <kitche> xyz: rescue mode
[01:33] <ubuntu_> Hi
[01:33] <DIL> hey all!  am trying to have system see my HP 5590 Scanner-any assist will be graet am A NEWB to Linux
[01:33] <idlemind> dil: have you searched google to make sure that it's compatible w/linux?
[01:33] <Hansel> DIL have you googled for HP 5590 Scanner driver insmod
[01:34] <SmashCat> xyz: tried typing "reboot"?
[01:34] <hansaki> thanks
[01:34] <DIL> no will now do
[01:34] <ubuntu_> how show DVD with ubuntu ??? help me please
[01:34] <_fnord> xyz: halt?
[01:34] <insomninja> DIL, what happens if you start the scanning program (sane)?
[01:34] <_fnord> !dvd |ubuntu
[01:34] <ubotu> ubuntu: For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[01:34] <SmashCat> xyz: or "init 0" (works with RH)
[01:34] <ubuntu_> thanks
[01:35] <_fnord> ubuntu_: are you useing a livecd?
[01:35] <xyz> "reboot" works but i have to be root ,im ok with that
[01:35] <Naabo> Hansel--got any more sugesions for me??ftp with the same suer as the ower in www root..still getting permission denied:-/
[01:36] <SmashCat> Right time to hack xorg.conf ;-) It's the 21st century, there should really be a gui tool for this!
[01:36] <_fnord> how do i get the sound to work on a laptop?
[01:36] <ubuntu_> i wish you a mary christmas !
[01:36] <ubuntu_> goddnight
[01:36] <bruenig> SmashCat, write one
[01:36] <derek_> Can I find out the version of a program available in the repository before apt-get'ing it?
[01:36] <leprasmurf> make[1] : *** No rule to make target `modules'.  Stop.
[01:36] <Hansel> SmashCat - why?  If it ain't broke don't fix it.  There are many people that live in CLI's and don't ever even load up a GUI...
[01:36] <kitche> SmashCat: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg is the only good tool or sudo xorgconfig or X -configure
[01:36] <Hansel> Naabo - you can see the files but not write/remove, correct?
[01:36] <derek_> _fnord, how old is your laptop, if I may ask?
[01:37] <_fnord> SmashCat: there is one i think
[01:37] <SmashCat> bruenig: This is probably the onyl time I'll use Ubuntu, so I don't think I'll be writing a tool for it for one installation ;-)
[01:37] <Naabo> yes
[01:37] <leprasmurf> Any help?  I'm compiling the rt2500 driver and getting: make[1] : *** No rule to make target `modules'.  Stop.
[01:37] <_fnord> boute a year or so
[01:37] <_fnord> intell celeronM 1.5 ghz 250 ram
[01:37] <bruenig> SmashCat, but think of the good you will do writing such an invaluable piece of software for the community
[01:37] <Pixy> Anyone know how to get an Ubuntu verion of xchat that's not the gnome version?
[01:37] <Hansel> Naabo - have you looked at the sample configs on proftpd.org? http://www.proftpd.org/docs/configs/virtual.conf
[01:37] <_fnord> it was bottom of the line when i got it
[01:37] <root_> how do find out a password on a .rar file
[01:37] <bingnet922> kitche: Hi, I did install lame. I checked this with $apt-get install lame which responded "0 newly installed"
[01:38] <SmashCat> bruenig: There's one in Fedora that works well, maybe that could be repackaged?
[01:38] <kitche> bingnet922: ok then it should be working correctly
[01:38] <LameBMX> root_,  you dont dl warez
[01:38] <kitche> bingnet922: it might be due to how you are trying to encode it and such
[01:38] <root_> lameBMX its not a warez
[01:39] <LameBMX> then why dont you have the pass?
[01:39] <Hansel> root_ password protection is put in place for a reason.  If you set the pass but forgot it then you can google for the answer.  Sounds a bit sketchy though and we dont help with piracy...
[01:39] <Naabo> Hansel--i'm chking now..thx..getting back as soon as any progress beeing made
[01:39] <baastrup> is there a easy way to install the 2.6.18 kernel
[01:40] <Hansel> baastrup - apt-get if you dont have any customizations
[01:40] <cafuego_> baastrup: why do you want to install an old kernel?
[01:40] <Hansel> if you want to compile your own the process is fairly painless but there are some key steps you must follow...
[01:40] <BiNz> Merry Christmas all!
[01:40] <root_> lameBMX as i am a techie for a college and a student it crackin are system and there is a rar file which is passworded which is titled Crackin
[01:40] <Pixy> I'm having a problem with GCC.
[01:40] <Pixy> Don't know if this is common.
[01:41] <derek_> Can I find out the version of a program available in the repository before apt-get'ing it?
[01:41] <Pixy> But hanyways:
[01:41] <Hansel> derek_ apt-cache lets you search
[01:41] <neuro_> Hansel: ping
[01:41] <Pixy> I get this when doing ./configure
[01:41] <Pixy> checking for C compiler default output file name... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables
[01:41] <cafuego_> derek_: apt-cache show <package> and/or apt-cache policy <package>
[01:41] <Hansel> neuro_: pong
[01:41] <baastrup> cafuego_: this is the version  2.6.17-10-generic #2 SMP
[01:41] <kitche> Pixy: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[01:41] <Pixy> Kay.
[01:41] <cafuego_> Pixy: you don't have a proper install, get 'build-essential'
[01:41] <neuro_> Hansel: been pm'ing you, no response?
[01:41] <Hansel> I am ignoring all pms.
[01:41] <Hansel> just ask in the channel
[01:41] <neuro_> nice
[01:41] <LameBMX> so ur responsible for the system then ... and its a university
[01:42] <cafuego_> baastrup: Yes, prebuilt with backported fixes. 2.6.18 is not maintained by Ubuntu.
[01:42] <Rav|strangler> what does ./ do again?
[01:42] <LameBMX> just remote admin the box and record
[01:42] <Hansel> ./ runs a binary file...
[01:42] <neuro_> Hansel: just wanted to ask a question about whatever it was you said to gordonjcp
[01:42] <Rav|strangler> and how can I execute a file with out doing it.
[01:42] <Hansel> something outside of /bin /usr/bin etc
[01:42] <Pixy> Also, how would you make the keyboard controls more Mac like?
[01:42] <root_> lameBMX: no just a little school network
[01:42] <kitche> Rav|strangler: use sh instead of ./
[01:42] <Pixy> As in Apple key == Ctrl
[01:42] <Hansel> neuro_ - I didn't say anything to him but if you want to ask me about something I typed feel free...
[01:42] <Hansel> :)
[01:42] <LameBMX> same concept
[01:42] <neuro_> Hansel: you didn't pm him?
[01:42] <LameBMX> size dont really matter
[01:42] <baastrup> cafuego_: hmm oki, I need to try a newer kernel,  because im testing some problems with the nvidia kernel on my laptop
[01:42] <Rav|strangler> kitche, can I do it without doing sh bsflite?
[01:43] <root_> true
[01:43] <bingnet922> kitche: Here's my session showing the command and output. Notice the 'configure:' is empty instead of --enable-lame, but when I run .configure it shows lame enabled. I am sure I'm using the same executable because I removed the ffmpeg package, the only resident copy is from svn.
[01:43] <Hansel> he pm'd me telling me about his life and work...
[01:43] <Hansel> I ignored him  :)
[01:43] <derek_> Thanks
[01:43] <bingnet922> kitche: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/38723/
[01:43] <Rav|strangler> kitche,  like chmod something
[01:43] <neuro_> Hansel: :)
[01:43] <cafuego_> baastrup: Wouldn't it be better to try the newer driver on a working kernel?
[01:43] <neuro_> Hansel: thanks dude, that was all i was after
[01:43] <LameBMX> and if someone is "crackin" out of a rar ... and you have done ur job right .. u should just be sitting back lolz'n
[01:43] <SmashCat> Hmm that's wierd, installing the Nvidia drivers installs a new Linux kernel ;-)
[01:43] <kitche> Rav|strangler: chmod +x but you still need to do either ./ or sh to make it run
[01:44] <Rav|strangler> kitche, could I just double click the shortcut after I make it executable
[01:44] <cafuego_> baastrup: incidentally, the latest stable is <IP_ADDRESS>
[01:44] <kitche> bingnet922: you might be doing it right but when you use the program that uses ffmpeg you might be using wrong syntax
[01:44] <Olathe_> How do I mount a samba share so that the owner of the files on it appears to be something other than root ?
[01:44] <LameBMX> no sweat either way ... if he succeeds talk n find out what he did .. if he dont well .. your system just got proven
[01:44] <kitche> Rav|strangler: yes
[01:44] <baastrup> cafuego_: hmm yeah, but its the last thing i need to try, I got the hardware changed, tryed the newest nvidia driver
[01:44] <cafuego_> Olathe_: the uid and gid options as per man page.
[01:44] <Pixy> Best key remapping program?
[01:44] <bingnet922> kitche: good point, but in this case I'm using ffmpeg directly to eliminate that possibility
[01:44] <root_> lameBMX: i just want to see what he is up to, theres been no problems yet. but as are network user aggrement states "no hacking or cracking" stupid i know
[01:44] <trev_> when i first used the shared folders GUI i only added samba as a service, is there a way to automatically add nfs as well?
[01:45] <bingnet922> kitche: you can see the command and output here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/38723/
[01:45] <baastrup> cafuego_: nv drivers works find though, so its only the nvidia official drivers
[01:45] <Olathe_> cafuego_: Thanks :)
[01:45] <leprasmurf> ok, I'm trying to remove gaim from an edubuntu install, and it's claiming that it's going to uninstall the desktop...anyone know why?
[01:45] <SmashCat> Dammit! Just changed my clock and now I can't use SUDO anymore as the "timestamp's too far in the future"... great...
[01:45] <cafuego_> Olathe_: you may also wan to use fmask and dmask
[01:45] <Hansel> lol SmashCat.  :(
[01:45] <omglol> i need help setting up my linux pc as a wireless router. when i try to use firestarter it says device wlan0 is not ready. but network settings shows wlan0 is active. how can i fix that?
[01:45] <kitche> bingnet922: you encoding a video?
[01:45] <_fnord> so now help with the laptop/sound?
[01:45] <LameBMX> yea and all im saying is you will learn my by watching
[01:46] <surfbuddy> can anyone have a look at my problem please ? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=324902
[01:46] <_fnord> so no*
[01:46] <bingnet922> kitche: right, mpeg to flv
[01:46] <Pixy> kitche: After install build-essential, I get this error configure: error: "Cannot find glib"
[01:46] <Pixy> And I know it's installed.
[01:46] <bingnet922> kitche: audio is def present in orig, but no audio stream to flv
[01:46] <SmashCat> Looks like I'll have to reboot and login as root - man I love the Linux desktop :-))
[01:46] <kitche> Pixy: you have to install glib you might have glib2 installed which is different
[01:46] <root_> lameBMX: arh true, well its the hoildays so i should be relaxing anyways
[01:46] <LameBMX> i remember my university days ..
[01:46] <SmashCat> Thanks for the help people...
[01:46] <LameBMX> exactly
[01:46] <omglol> i need help setting up my linux pc as a wireless router. when i try to use firestarter it says device wlan0 is not ready. but network settings shows wlan0 is active. how can i fix that?
[01:47] <surfbuddy> its about ext3 file system failing ...
[01:47] <kitche> bingnet922: hmm yeah I m just thinking if you  have to use a tool not sure how to encode audio in lame when it's part of a video
[01:47] <LameBMX> with windows i dont run a firewall or AV ... AV is pointless ..
[01:47] <Hansel> is a firewall pointless as well?  heh.
[01:47] <LameBMX> and it only does a half a**'d job of removing them anyways
[01:47] <root_> cheers all
[01:47] <Trynemjoel> Is there a command to list LAN-connections? trying to find the IP to my Access point :)
[01:48] <LameBMX> ifconfig
[01:48] <vlc> Trynemjoel, install iptraf
[01:48] <Hansel> Trynemjoel - ifconfig and look for the IP ending in .1 usually  :)
[01:48] <LameBMX> if you are connected
[01:48] <vlc> ah
[01:48] <Pixy> ifconfig eth0 usually.
[01:48] <bingnet922> kitche: I was originally trying to use KINO to produce FLV, and was getting no audio in final, so this appears to be the reason: FFMPEG is not lame enabled.
[01:48] <LameBMX> <IP_ADDRESS> .1.1  15.1 are common ones
[01:49] <Trynemjoel> The accesspoint is not the router
[01:49] <bingnet922> kitche: when I encode final using utilities and libs other than ffmpeg the final has audio, only ffmpeg produces video only
[01:49] <Hansel> access point is likely .1.1 and router .0.1
[01:49] <Rav|strangler> kitche, thank you :-D
[01:49] <omglol> i have problem setting up my ubuntu as a wireless router! firestarter says wlan0 is not active!
[01:49] <Rav|strangler> Hansel, and you too buddy thanks
[01:50] <Pixy> iwconfig ?
[01:50] <needhelp> whats the configfile for wine ?
[01:50] <kitche> Trynemjoel: you can do iwlist scan and see what pops up
[01:50] <willskills> Anyone here an expert with ALSA and different soundcards? I am having problems with my capture on an NVidia CK804 - please PM me if you can assist!
[01:50] <bingnet922> omglol: you're doing better than I, I couldn't get ubuntu to recognize my wlan.
[01:50] <omglol> lol
[01:50] <_fnord> !anyone
[01:50] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[01:50] <LameBMX> lmao
[01:50] <omglol> i need help setting up my linux pc as a wireless router. when i try to use firestarter it says device wlan0 is not ready. but network settings shows wlan0 is active. how can i fix that?
[01:51] <kitche> bingnet922: to me it would just be easier to rip the sound and video part and encode them seperately then fuse them together again
[01:51] <cyphase> is CUPS ever going to announce itself via Zeroconf?
[01:51] <bingnet922> omglol: I know the first step is to determine the chipset of your wlan hardware, then determine the appropriate driver/ndiswrapper
[01:51] <bingnet922> kitche: ffmpeg?
[01:51] <Beforewisdom> Hi.  I have been trying to unrar a *.rar file.  It asks me for a password.  My system password does not work so I am guessing I need to get one from somewhere else.  Is there anyway around that?
[01:51] <Trynemjoel> all i get from iwlist scan is a macadress and other info
[01:51] <Trynemjoel> no IP :I)
[01:51] <jair_> @find SDK
[01:51] <_fnord> how do i uninstall cups copletly?
[01:51] <cafuego_> Beforewisdom: get the password from whoever sent you the rar.
[01:51] <Trynemjoel> it has a default ip form the routers DHCP-server
[01:51] <cafuego_> Beforewisdom: if they didn't give you one, you're probably not supposed to unpack it.
[01:51] <bingnet922> omglol: if you can log onto a wlan with your hardware then firestarter should work too
[01:52] <omglol> bingnet992: network settings can detect wlan0 and says its active.. is it working?
[01:52] <omglol> bingnet992: i cant logon to any wlan cuz my wireless router is down and all my neighbours are encrypted
[01:52] <Beforewisdom> I got a password.html file that says it has the password, but it isn't on there, when I click on the link it tells me to go it is a german site for a bit torrent client with a nasty note not to ask about the password
[01:53] <Hansel> hah.
[01:53] <LameBMX> yea cuz its malware
[01:53] <cafuego_> Beforewisdom: well, tough luck then
[01:53] <bingnet922> omglol: you will need a wlan for testing your hardware, I don't know if "detection as active" is sufficient proof that it is working. That's as far as I 've gone, good luck.
[01:53] <LameBMX> jeez
[01:53] <omglol> k
[01:53] <Beforewisdom> cafuego, Thanks anyway, I was hoping there would be some way around it
[01:53] <cafuego_> german defacation porn isn't good for you anyway
[01:54] <LameBMX> lol
[01:54] <Beforewisdom> Neither is sarcasm
[01:54] <Beforewisdom> aint porn
[01:54] <_fnord> omglol: if you have your nieh bors permission you could use aircrack to find there password,its in hte repos
[01:54] <Beforewisdom> Have a nice night boys
[01:54] <LameBMX> sarcasm is bad for you?
[01:54] <cafuego_> LameBMX: depends on the frame of mind of the "victim"
[01:54] <cafuego_> LameBMX: if they stab you, it's not that great
[01:54] <omglol> _fnord: lol
[01:54] <LameBMX> ah
[01:55] <LameBMX> but whatever does kill us only makes us stronger
[01:55] <_fnord> but if you dont have permission its a crime
[01:55] <LameBMX> so the sarcasm is either good or deadly
[01:55] <bingnet922> kitche: get this, ffmpeg output quickly and cleanly an mp3 of the orig. But will not transcode to flv with mp3 audio?
[01:56] <surfbuddy> can anyone have a look at my problem please ? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=324902 .. about failing ext3 ..please
[01:56] <kitche> bingnet922: it probabably doesn't understand .flv format
[01:56] <_fnord> how can i get a animated start up screen?
[01:56] <kitche> bingnet922: I m not great with ffmpeg sicne I tend to encode video and audio seperately then fuse them back together
[01:57] <bingnet922> kitche: it successfully encodes flv video and ffmpeg is the industry standard for encoding this format
[01:57] <bingnet922> kitche: right?
[01:58] <omglol> how do i scan for wireless networks and join then?
[01:58] <cafuego_> kitche: my ffmpeg outputs to flv just fine
[01:58] <LameBMX> anyone here deal with a wg111u by netgear .. usb .. atheros chipset ... ive followed a few howto's
[01:58] <LameBMX> none worked
[01:58] <jughead> omglol: install something like wifi-radar
[01:58] <omglol> k
[01:58] <cyphase> ah, it'll be in CUPS 1.4
[01:58] <LameBMX> and i dont wanna do too many more installs
[01:59] <_fnord> how do i uninstall CUPS?
[01:59] <LameBMX> well os reloads
[01:59] <cyphase> June of next year
[01:59] <kitche> cafuego_: with mp3 audio?
[01:59] <cafuego_> kitche: the one I did had no audio in it, dunno.
[01:59] <toulouse> good Question, i have a wifi card in my comp. it finds our wireless router, but will not connect to it if it has a password -any suggestions?
[01:59] <vlc> surfbuddy, i installed ubuntu on a usb drive this week, and i got the problem that the disk got automounted during the partitioning...
[01:59] <cafuego_> kitche: Mind you, I had to go from ogg to yuv first; then to flv
[01:59] <cyphase> maybe they can squeeze it into feisty
[02:00] <vlc> surfbuddy, i got the same error
[02:00] <jughead> toulouse: what kind of encryption is it?
[02:00] <toulouse> ehhh, lemme look
 good Question, i have a wifi card in my comp. it finds our wireless router, but will not connect to it if it has a password -any suggestions? <== Slightly flippant answer, remove the password ;-)
[02:00] <Pie-rate> is there any way to get something to run at a really high priority without root privileges? (i get a "nice: cannot set niceness: Permission denied" message) I can get root privileges but i dont want the program i'm running to have them
[02:00] <noelferreira> hi people any software to make free phone calls ?
[02:01] <japhy> all right i feel really dumb for asking this, but for some reason i cann't burn a good copy of ubuntu, what the heck is going on? i searched the forums and have followed "ISO burning tutorials" but they always come out messed up, either i get a "buffer I/O error on hdc" or when installing the alternate CD i get " *some file* is corrupt", does anyone have any suggestions?
[02:01] <toulouse> nvm guys my mom is on the other computer, and i dont want to disturb her with router business
[02:01] <nn> japhy: my idea is that maybe you could do a net install?
[02:01] <Lunar_Lamp> Hmm, interesting question Pie-rate - definitely only root can increase a processes priority.  Perhaps you could make nice usable to non-root users?
[02:02] <jughead> that's cool toulouse let us know if you get a chance to find out
[02:02] <toulouse> i dont have the info in front of me for yall
[02:02] <toulouse> thanks for offereing to help tho
[02:02] <_fnord> !aircrack | toulouse:
[02:02] <japhy> nn: should i just search the forums to see how to do that?
[02:02] <ubotu> aircrack: wireless WEP/WPA cracker. In component universe, is extra. Version 2.3-3 (edgy), package size 136 kB, installed size 372 kB
[02:02] <bushel2> test
[02:02] <jughead> what are you using to connect to the wireless network?
[02:02] <_fnord> toulouse: | !aircrack
[02:02] <bushel2> hi @ all
[02:02] <toulouse> ooo aircrack, interesting
[02:02] <Lunar_Lamp> Pie-rate, idea!  Use "renice" to alter the processes priotiry once it's running!
[02:02] <toulouse> a d-link wifi pci card
[02:03] <toulouse> wireless -b
[02:03] <toulouse> i know the router has two options on encryption, beyond that i dont know
[02:03] <toulouse> i gtg
[02:03] <_fnord> can i use a router to conect to other routers?
[02:03] <bingnet922> noelferreira: for free calling check out http://www.../click-2021613-10422639
[02:03] <toulouse> tthanks, we'll work on this later :)
[02:03] <bushel2> i try to install beryl and need to put the gpg key in without conecting to the internet , just from the file , any ideas?
[02:03] <jughead> toulouse: what program are you using?  is it the one that comes with ubuntu or didi you install something like wifi-radar?
[02:03] <zOap> anyone know of a good freeram app for ubuntu?
[02:03] <toulouse> one with ubuntu
[02:04] <toulouse> soz, i  gtg
[02:04] <toulouse> *walking dogs*
[02:04] <Lunar_Lamp> Pie-rate, I'm not certain of the exact syntax but: "COMMAND && sudo renice -19 COMMAND/PROCESS"
[02:05] <bingnet922> noelferreira: I mean http://www.skype.com
[02:05] <Lunar_Lamp> Pie-rate, that way the program won't be executed with root privilages.  If you're uncertain about it you can test it to make sure first.
[02:05] <kitche> noelferreira: skype is not free for making calls well it's free at the moment but once jan. 1st coems it won't be free
[02:05] <noelferreira> bingnet922: i mean free calls to other system the pc. i think skype charges that ones
[02:06] <noelferreira> ya kitche that's it
[02:07] <_fnord> is there a free VoIp service?
[02:07] <kitche> noelferreira: look up free world dialup it's good, the other person also needs free world dialup also
[02:07] <Pie-rate> Lunar_Lamp: I think it needs the pid
 noelferreira: skype is not free for making calls well it's free at the moment but once jan. 1st coems it won't be free <== Skype to Skype calls are free still.
[02:08] <DIL> firefly from australia is free to0 other firefly numbers
[02:08] <_fnord> what aboute asterix?whats that all aboute?
[02:08] <_fnord> !asterix
[02:08] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about asterix - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:08] <Lunar_Lamp> Pie-rate, can't you just use "ps -ef | grep SOMETHING-ABOUT-YOUR-PROCESS" to find the pid?
[02:08] <Pie-rate> !asterisk
[02:08] <ubotu> asterisk: Open Source Private Branch Exchange (PBX). In component universe, is optional. Version 1:<IP_ADDRESS>.dfsg-1ubuntu1.1 (edgy), package size 137 kB, installed size 400 kB
[02:08] <kitche> _fnord: ever call aumber and it was computerized that is what asterisk is
[02:09] <xyz> hi how can i find out more about the ati drivers im using ,they work great
[02:09] <kitche> _fnord: makes it so you can have extensions for one number and such it's pretty good if you know how to work with it
[02:09] <kitche> xyz: glxinfo
[02:09] <_fnord> i was told you can use it to set up a voip server and then give out free phone calls?
[02:09] <kitche> _fnord: only if you have a voip account also and they get abused a lot
[02:10] <VerdRouseau> can anyone help me connect to my HP printer connected to the router
[02:10] <leprasmurf> I've dl'd the rt2x00 drivers for a wireless adapter, but when I go into the module directory and type 'make' I get "make[1] : *** No rule to make target `modules'.  Stop."
[02:10] <leprasmurf> any ideas?
[02:10] <noelferreira> thanks people
[02:10] <_fnord> and theres no suck thing as a free voip acount?
[02:10] <Pie-rate> Lunar_Lamp, yes, but I want to do this in a script
[02:10] <Lunar_Lamp> leprasmurf, I did this install the other day!
[02:10] <noelferreira> anyone used voipbuster in ubuntu
[02:10] <noelferreira> this one is totaly free
[02:10] <Lunar_Lamp> leprasmurf, pm and I'll help you out.
[02:10] <Mx-> Happy holidays
[02:10] <_fnord> !voipbuster
[02:10] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about voipbuster - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:11] <Lunar_Lamp> Pie-rate, well you would be being difficult eh? ;-)
[02:11] <un_operateur> leprasmurf, you might need to have a read at README or INSTALL within those directories
[02:11] <Mx-> can someone tell me how ubuntu being a newer linux distro has blown up to the point it has in popularity?
[02:11] <kitche> _fnord: free world dialup it's computer to computer but there is ways to use outside calls
[02:11] <Pie-rate> Lunar_Lamp: I'm thinking sudo nice -n -19  sudo -u jschall command-name
[02:11] <_fnord> Mx-: because its sexy
[02:11] <Lunar_Lamp> Pie-rate, ok, you can make the script create a "pid" file whereby it outputs the pid of the processes initiated.  Then you can use that simply can you not?
[02:12] <Mx-> :D
[02:12] <Pie-rate> Lunar_Lamp: how do i do that?
[02:12] <superkirbyartist> Something weird's going on!  When I load my computer, the splash is Kubuntu.  When I turn it off, the splash is Xubuntu.  I use Xubuntu; how do I set the system startup splash to Xubuntu?
[02:12] <un_operateur> Mx-, it's cool, easy to use, appeals to windows users looking to change, detects most hardware, is based on debian's stability, easy to maintain, quite robust, etc
[02:12] <Lunar_Lamp> Pie-rate, I'm not quite sure - I know that things like apache produce pid files when run though.
[02:13] <_fnord> superkirbyartist: have you installed more then one desktop?
[02:13] <un_operateur> superkirbyartist, check out !usplash
[02:13] <_fnord> like kubuntu-desktop and xubuntu-desktop
[02:13] <superkirbyartist> _fnord: Previously I have tried KDE on Snow White iMac G3; too slow, so got rid of it.
[02:13] <superkirbyartist> un_operateur: Those instructions are complicated!
[02:13] <_fnord> !usplash
[02:13] <ubotu> usplash is the start-up splash (before the login screen appears) in Ubuntu. To customize it, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/USplashCustomizationHowto
[02:14] <kitche> un_operateur: that howto is more about making a usplash from what I have read and what LjL said
[02:14] <Pie-rate> Why do you need root to increase a processes priority anyway?
[02:14] <needhelp> I try to run a Windows-game through wine. Installing from CD1 works fine, but then it asks for CD2. the installer seems not to detect that I switched to CD2 and its keeps begging for the next disc. How to install that game?
[02:14] <`rich> Okay, trying to share a folder on my ubuntu box (via SMB) and browse it from a windows box - I get asked for a login/pass but it doesn't accept my ubuntu login details. Am I missing something?
[02:14] <biotro1> Merry Christmas to all :)
[02:14] <needhelp> Without switching to Windows
[02:15] <xyz> kitche:thx
[02:15] <un_operateur> superkirbyartist, you could probably get away with  -- sudo sh -c "aptitude purge usplash; aptitude install usplash"
[02:15] <Pie-rate> needhelp: #winehq and www.appdb.winehq.org
[02:15] <biotro1> Merry Christmas to you all
[02:15] <kitche> needhelp: there is a switch to tell wine to look for cdeject requests not sure the exact syntax of it though man wine should tell you the correct syntax
[02:15] <_fnord> needhelp: did you give your cd rom drive a min to make sure it had time to load the game?
[02:15] <DIL> xmas
[02:15] <superkirbyartist> un_operator; typed it right now.
 Why do you need root to increase a processes priority anyway? <== Otherwise a non-trusted user could use all the systems processing power.
[02:16] <Mx-> so many people in here
[02:16] <Mx-> wow
[02:16] <superkirbyartist> Score is -301; what does that mean?
[02:16] <factboy818181> does anyone use Starcraft in Ubuntu with wine?  if so, have you had any troubles with starcraft not taking up full screen?
[02:16] <needhelp> _fnord: yes, many minutes
[02:16] <superkirbyartist> It asks me to accept or not?
[02:16] <DIL> MX it is the ubuntu concept :-)
[02:16] <_fnord> i dont know then might just not be compatible
[02:16] <needhelp> kitche: thanks, ill look into it
[02:17] <Mx-> the african thing?
[02:17] <un_operateur> superkirbyartist, _read_ the preceeding few lines, they ask you if you would like to uninstall a few packages
[02:17] <DIL> riiiiiiiiiiight
[02:18] <_fnord> how do i get a anmated splash screen?like the fingerprint/dna/hand one in kubuntu?
[02:18] <superkirbyartist> How do I edit applications menu in Xubuntu?
[02:18] <_fnord> also still need to figure out whats wrong with my sound on a laptop
[02:20] <_fnord> nevermind i got the sound but i still need help with teh splash screen
[02:21] <anandanbu> Hi
[02:21] <omglol> for my atherous wireless card, shd i use ndiswrapper with winxp drivers or madwifi
[02:22] <lupine_85> omglol: madwifi every time
[02:22] <omglol> k :)
[02:22] <superkirbyartist> I installed Mac-On-Linux: how do I run it?
[02:22] <omglol> if i've installed ndiswrapper with winxp drivers shd i remove ndiswrapper?
[02:23] <_fnord> what program do i use to network a mac to my computer so the mac can use my wifi?
[02:23] <anandanbu> can i change the grub so that the default booting OS is windows if so how can i do it
[02:23] <un_operateur> omglol, if ndiswrapper is currently set to use your network card -- you should remove it or disengage it
[02:23] <eriksays> superkirbyartist: are you experiencing problems running?
[02:23] <vox754> omglol: no, it does nothing leaving it installed
[02:23] <omglol> hmm
[02:24] <superkirbyartist> eriksays: There is no Xfce menu link.
[02:24] <un_operateur> anandanbu, you edit the /boot/grub/menu.lst file and set the default choice there
[02:24] <Lunar_Lamp> anandanbu, you need to edit /boot/grub/menu.list - there is an option to select which number entry in your list it selects by default.  I think it starts counting from "0" as a warning (i.e. the first entry is called "0" the second "1" the third  "2")
[02:24] <vox754> edit it with gedit, or nano
[02:24] <omglol> u can try grubed
[02:24] <anandanbu> where is the file location
[02:25] <un_operateur> anandanbu, are you drunk? :)
[02:25] <Lunar_Lamp> anandanbu, /boot/grub/menu.lst is the file location :-)
[02:25] <anandanbu> what
[02:25] <anandanbu> ok
[02:25] <anandanbu> thnx Lunar_Lamp
[02:25] <Lunar_Lamp> anandanbu, you will need root/sudo acces to save any changes to the file though.
[02:25] <SillyZ> !seen hawkind
[02:25] <ubotu> I haven't seen hawkind recently
[02:25] <superkirbyartist> eriksays?
[02:25] <anandanbu> ok
[02:26] <vox754> !attitude > un_operateur
[02:26] <SillyZ> !seen haesslich
[02:26] <ubotu> I haven't seen haesslich recently
[02:26] <SillyZ> hmmmph
[02:26] <un_operateur> vox754, thanks but it was not meant to offend, just some light humour :)
[02:27] <vox754> haha
[02:27] <un_operateur> vox754, you know... christmas time, merry spirits, etc ..
[02:27] <Stormx2> How do I add "/usr/local/lib" to some config thing (maybe ld?) so that xchat can find .so files there?
[02:28] <Stormx2> Oh, and jesus loves you all ;-)
[02:28] <un_operateur> Stormx2, what .so files is xchat missing?
[02:28] <cafuego_> Stormx2: /etc/ld.so.conf
[02:29] <Stormx2> cafuego_: Just add "/usr/local/lib", yeah?
[02:29] <nn> Stormx2: aww i <3 jesus
[02:29] <cafuego_> yup
[02:29] <Stormx2> what a rocking guy
[02:29] <Stormx2> xD
[02:29] <cafuego_> JEEBUS!
[02:29] <Stormx2> cafuego_: After that, should I restart xchat?
[02:30] <Stormx2> Bleh.
[02:30] <Stormx2> I'll try anyway
[02:31] <digin4> damn gnome toolbars froze
[02:31] <djf8d7fa> what's the bash command to pipe output to a file?
[02:31] <Stormx2> Bleh
[02:31] <Stormx2>  AutoLoad failed for: /home/barney/.xchat2/audacious-show-1.2.0.so
[02:31] <Stormx2>  libaudacious.so.4: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[02:31] <un_operateur> pipe output or redirect output?
[02:31] <Stormx2> djf8d7fa: >> or >
[02:31] <Gosha> !tomoe
[02:31] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about tomoe - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:31] <djf8d7fa> thanks
[02:31] <Gosha> .. wee
[02:31] <vox754> !Enter > Stormx2
[02:31] <Gosha> where did tomoe go?
[02:31] <Stormx2> djf8d7fa: One appends, one writes new.
[02:31] <Gosha> !uim
[02:31] <ubotu> uim: Simple and flexible input method collection and library. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:1.2.1-3ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 1 kB, installed size 20 kB
[02:31] <Stormx2> vox754: yeah yeah
[02:32] <Stormx2> vox754: Gimme a break
[02:32] <Blue_p> Hey, can someone help me with a pc problem - My pc wont detect my mp4 player at all
[02:32] <Stormx2> vox754: You wanted !paste anyway ;-)
[02:32] <Stormx2> cafuego, still around?
[02:32] <cafuego_> of course
[02:33] <cafuego_> do you expect me to have a life?
[02:33] <Stormx2> cafuego_: I've added it, saved, etc
[02:33] <Elly> hey guys...is there a way to install ubuntu with grsecurity patches?
[02:33] <Stormx2> cafuego_: Hahahaha.
[02:33] <cafuego_> No Mr Bond, I expect you to die!
[02:33] <Stormx2> cafuego_: I restarted x-chat, but it still wouldn't load it (see the error I posted). Do I need to restart anything else?
[02:33] <Stormx2> wait
[02:33] <Stormx2> Run
[02:33] <Stormx2> ldconfig
[02:33] <Stormx2> right?
[02:34] <cafuego_> yah
[02:35] <Stormx2> Still no show, same error.
[02:35] <Stormx2> cafuego ^^
[02:36] <Gosha> what happened to tomoe in edgy? >_<
[02:36] <Stormx2> Gosha: What is tomoe? lol
[02:36] <cafuego_> Stormx2: run 'ldd  /home/barney/.xchat2/audacious-show-1.2.0.so'
[02:37] <cafuego_> Stormx2: Oh, whilst you're at it, cehck the permissions on stuff in /usr/local/lib
[02:37] <un_operateur> Stormx2, just wondering, you were asking earlier about adding "/usr/local/lib" in, but then you come out with missing .so in "/home.." -- are you sure you added the right dir in?
[02:37] <Gosha> tomoe = handwriting recognition stuff, japanese
[02:37] <Stormx2> un_operateur: Well the thing is in /usr/local/lib
[02:37] <cafuego_> un_operateur: the .so in home won't laod because of a lib it depends on, I expect that one is in /usr/local/lib
[02:37] <Stormx2> un_operateur: The x-chat plugin is in my ~
[02:38] <Stormx2> libaudacious.so.4 => not found
[02:38] <un_operateur> right, i see
[02:38] <superkirbyartist> OK, someone gave me some code, and it REMOVED the splash screens both before and after desktop loads.  How can I set it back to normal?
[02:38] <Stormx2> libaudacious.so.4 is symlinked to this:
[02:38] <Stormx2> -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root<PHONE_NUMBER>-12-16 02:02 libaudacious.so.4.0.0
[02:39] <Stormx2> Shall I 777 it for the hell of it?
[02:39] <Stormx2> cafuego_ ^^
[02:40] <LongkerDandy> i want install Amule on my ubuntu server, i'm wondered if the "amule-daemon" just enough
[02:40] <nn> Stormx2: not a good idea. no
[02:40] <DigitalNinja> I'm trying to umount /tmp. It's not working. The device is busy. Is there a way to forice a umount of /tmp?
[02:40] <nn> Stormx2: 755 is fine
[02:41] <vox754> superkirby: you can browse here http://ubuntuforums.org/search.php?searchid=11705514
[02:41] <Stormx2> Hmm
[02:41] <Stormx2> its not like its access denied
[02:41] <Stormx2> Its actually not finding it
[02:41] <nn> and where is it?
[02:41] <Stormx2> /usr/local/lib
[02:42] <etienne> hi
[02:42] <wyld> !hi
[02:42] <ubotu> Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[02:42] <nn> is /usr/local/lib in /etc/ld.so.conf?
[02:43] <vox754> DigitalNinja: I guess you can't, it seems like a "system's folder"
[02:43] <Stormx2> nn: yeah
[02:43] <cafuego_> Stormx2: What does `file' say about libaudacious.so.4.0.0 ?
[02:43] <michelp> happy holidays!  is there a way to upgrade my dapper install to edgy?  the update manager tells me there is a new distribution 6.06 LTS but i I want 6.10
[02:43] <michelp> will 6.06 LTS let me update to 6.10?
[02:43] <DigitalNinja> vox754: I did it! I'm not sure how but /tmp is not mounted.
[02:43] <thoreauputic> !upgrade
[02:43] <ubotu> For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[02:43] <un_operateur> !upgrade | michelp
[02:43] <ubotu> michelp: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[02:44] <nn> michelp: dapper you need to upgrade to breezy then up, i believe
[02:44] <cafuego_> DigitalNinja: stop all processes that are using /tmp (easiest is to go to single-user mode, runlevel 1)
[02:44] <michelp> thanks
[02:44] <michelp> sorry for the noise
[02:44] <michelp> !upgrade
[02:44] <Stormx2> cafuego_: How do I use it?
[02:44] <thoreauputic> nn: no, breezy was before dapper :)
[02:44] <cafuego_> Stormx2: file <filename>
[02:44] <nn> OH
[02:44] <vox754> michelp: Dapper is 6.06
[02:44] <Stormx2> libaudacious.so.4.0.0: ELF 32-bit LSB shared object, Intel 80386, version 1 (SYSV), not stripped
[02:44] <michelp> i think i might have breezy on this laptop
[02:44] <michelp> it's not actually mine, i'm using edgy on mine, i'm upgrading a friend
[02:45] <nn> thoreauputic: oh ya, i went fro hoary to edgy :)
[02:45] <Ashton_K> Hello.
[02:45] <thoreauputic> michelp: breezy > dapper > edgy
[02:45] <cafuego_> michelp: 'lsb_release -a'
[02:45] <Stormx2> breezy < dapper < edgy
[02:45] <Stormx2> surely? ;)
[02:45] <michelp> ah yes, i have breezy
[02:45] <michelp> so dapper first, then edgy
[02:45] <thoreauputic> nn: umm - annd it didn't break? Or you reinstalled , right?
[02:45] <un_operateur> you should be able to go straight from breezy to edgy without any problems
[02:45] <Ashton_K> It seems make menuconfig isn't working for me, gives me a bunch of "undeclared" and "implicit declaration" errors.
[02:45] <Ashton_K> Any ideas?
[02:45] <lupine_85> un_operateur: erm, no
[02:45] <cafuego_> Stormx2: Depends on whether they're greater than or arrows
[02:46] <nn> thoreauputic: i did upgrades, edgy => breezy => dapper => edgy
[02:46] <Ashton_K> (I have the metapackages the wiki told me I needed to compile a new kernel)
[02:46] <nn> Ashton_K: you're missing ncurses-dev i bet
[02:46] <cafuego_> nn: liar
[02:46] <thoreauputic> Stormx2: that's math, mine was arroes ;)
[02:46] <thoreauputic> *arrows
[02:46] <nn> cafuego_: eh?
[02:46] <Stormx2> thoreauputic: haha ;) okay
[02:46] <cafuego_> nn: edgy => breezy?
[02:46] <nn> oh, hoary => breezy, not edgy
[02:46] <Ashton_K> Looks like I didn't have it, let's see if that fixes things.
[02:46] <nn> cafuego_: Typo :)
[02:46] <thoreauputic> Stormx2: I probably should have used -->
[02:46] <thoreauputic> ;-)
[02:46] <Ashton_K> nn: You're a genius.
[02:46] <Ashton_K> :P
[02:46] <Stormx2> thoreauputic: its okay, no worries :)
[02:47] <Stormx2> Ima go to bed soon, I think
[02:47] <cafuego_> Does dist-upgrade from dapper to edgy work these days or will it bork a machine still?
[02:47] <un_operateur> lupine_85, errm, I managed to get from dapper to feisty alright -- i dont see why not
[02:47] <Stormx2> Ima just see if there is anything I can do to get this working...
[02:47] <lupine_85> !worksforme
[02:47] <thoreauputic> :D
[02:47] <ubotu> Common Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should. Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability.
[02:47] <Stormx2> cafuego_: Does it normally not work?
[02:47] <lupine_85> !upgrade
[02:47] <ubotu> For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[02:47] <lupine_85> put the two together... what do you get?
[02:47] <nn> Ashton_K: nawh, just been using linux for almost 10 years now :)
[02:47] <cafuego_> Stormx2: Completely broke my machine when I did it
[02:47] <Stormx2> Jesus
[02:47] <Stormx2> I swear I've broken sudo
[02:48] <un_operateur> lupine_85, conspiracy ?? :)
[02:48] <Stormx2> One minute
[02:48] <lupine_85> un_operateur: yeah, something like that
[02:48] <Stormx2> sudo <command> does nothing...
[02:48] <cafuego_> luckily I don't have peoblems with manaully fixing up an mdraid system and reinstalling without trashing /home
[02:48] <Stormx2> oh
[02:48] <Stormx2> no it does
[02:48] <MrSprout> Could someone help me with gnome themes.
[02:48] <Stormx2> just gedit
[02:48] <Stormx2> xD
[02:48] <MrSprout> They fail to install every time.
[02:48] <lupine_85> gksudo gedit ...
[02:48] <lupine_85> don't sudo gui apps
[02:49] <un_operateur> lupine_85, linux has always been about "work-for-me" it's always been that way, no progress gets by without it .. frankly i dont see the point of upgrading to a distro if you are going to use it for an hour
[02:49] <Stormx2> lupine_85: Yeah.
[02:49] <Stormx2> Authentication Rejected, reason : None of the authentication protocols specified are supported and host-based authentication failed.
[02:49] <Stormx2> Eek.
[02:49] <Stormx2> I guess thats me launching gedit with sudo...
[02:49] <Stormx2> Anyway
[02:49] <lupine_85> un_operateur: indeed. What was missing from your advice was the "I'll sit on IRC and help you if it breaks"
[02:49] <Stormx2> reboot time
[02:49] <Stormx2> ;)
[02:50] <lupine_85> I certainly don't fancy taking that one up
[02:50] <kenshin> QUESTION: Whenever I try to add a printer from gnome or KDE, CUPS seems freeze my PC so that I have to use the reset button. How can I troubleshoot and fix this? Using dapper.
[02:51] <un_operateur> lupine_85, aye, mileage variation and all that -- fair enough :)
[02:51] <thoreauputic> cafuego: I tried the update thingy - it crashed half way through and I ended up doing aptitude dist-upgrade ; dpkg --configure -a ; dist-upgrade etc etc ( finally made it with a couple of apt-get -f installs thhrown in ;)
[02:51] <lupine_85> :)
[02:51] <cafuego_> thoreauputic: ... but after that it did boot up?
[02:51] <MrSprout> Can anyone help me with gnome theme installation, I get a "wrong filetype" message every time I try to install one
[02:51] <thoreauputic> cafuego: yes, but it had a few issues
[02:52] <vanberge> if i've added a new monitor, whats the easiest way to reconfigure X ?  :-/  my new monitor supports 1280x1024 but can't set that in the screen resolution dialogue
[02:52] <cafuego_> thoreauputic: Ok, I'll just go for the fresh install then.
[02:52] <MrSprout> vanberge
[02:52] <thoreauputic> cafuego: I'm just running dapper now ( I didn't see much i wanted in edgy)
[02:52] <MrSprout> xorg.conf
[02:52] <lupine_85> !info python-kde3 feisty
[02:52] <ubotu> python-kde3: KDE3 bindings for Python. In component main, is optional. Version 3.16.0-0ubuntu5 (feisty), package size 5277 kB, installed size 26920 kB
[02:52] <cafuego_> thoreauputic: For this box the newer beagle would be nice
[02:52] <etunbe> merry christmas, just installed xchat and by the face
[02:52] <thoreauputic> cafuego: although edgy is still there on my other partitons
[02:52] <MrSprout> and change all the highest monitor resolutions to the one you want
[02:52] <etunbe> here
[02:52] <MrSprout> and save
[02:52] <MrSprout> worked for me
[02:52] <cafuego_> thoreauputic: the edgy one doesn't normally eat 1GB of ram like the dapper one does.
[02:53] <vanberge> MrSprout, the easiest way is to edit the file?
[02:53] <thoreauputic> cafuego:  beagle? *shudder*
[02:53] <Ashton_K> nn: So after "Make menuconfig" and "make" is there something else I'm missing?
[02:53] <lupine_85> vanberge: definitely
[02:53] <MrSprout> sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[02:53] <lupine_85> gksudo gedit ...
[02:53] <cafuego_> thoreauputic: very handy when you have a few GB of mail you need to search
[02:53] <thoreauputic> cafuego: ah, well that's something I guess
[02:53] <nn> Ashton_K: make modules modules_install install
[02:53] <nn> i think
[02:53] <cafuego_> thoreauputic: .. and a few tens of GB of legacy data (word docs etc)
[02:54] <thoreauputic> cafuego: I use sylpheed and couldn't see how to get beagle to acknowledge my mail's existence
[02:54] <cafuego_> thoreauputic: in fact, VERY useful in that regard :-)
[02:54] <cafuego_> thoreauputic: you can probably point it at your local maildir or mbox
[02:54] <thoreauputic> yes, for the word docs I can see the point
[02:54] <Senesence> Will I ever have to defrag my ubuntu partition?
[02:54] <cafuego_> thoreauputic: mine picks up the evolution imap cache
[02:54] <cafuego_> Senesence: nope
[02:54] <thoreauputic> Senesence: no
[02:55] <Ashton_K> Still building.
[02:55] <Senesence> Ok, I guess that takes care of me. Later guys happy holidays.
[02:55] <Ashton_K> This might take a while.
[02:55] <Ashton_K> You too Senesence
[02:55] <Ashton_K> Oh noes, errors.
[02:56] <Ashton_K> Probably because I mucked around in the .config files before using make menuconfig.
[02:57] <Ashton_K> So anyways, when's 2.6.20 coming out, and is it worth upgrading from 17?
[02:57] <MrSprout> How do I change icon sizes.
[02:57] <MrSprout> default icon sizes
[02:57] <MrSprout> rather
[02:57] <cafuego_> Ashton_K: WIR is usual :-)
[02:57] <Ashton_K> WIR?
[02:58] <cafuego_> When Its Ready
[02:58] <lupine_85> Ashton_K: feisty has 2.6.20rc2 or something like that
[02:58] <Ashton_K> Well, yeah.
[02:58] <Ashton_K> I thought feisty was still a long way from release.
[02:58] <cafuego_> april
[02:58] <Ashton_K> Ah.
[02:59] <cafuego_> it didn't crash when I booted it the other day, though
[02:59] <Ashton_K> Any new features in .20 that'd make it worth the upgrade from .17?
[02:59] <Ashton_K> Oh, you're running experimental? Brave man.
[02:59] <Ashton_K> Or woman, whatever.
[02:59] <thoreauputic> anyway edgy is no fun - it doesn't break any more ;p
[02:59] <Ashton_K> That's the problem with Linux users.
[02:59] <Ashton_K> "It's no fun if there's nothing to fix on my own!"
[02:59] <thoreauputic> heheh
[02:59] <cafuego_> thoreauputic: rm -rf /bin/bash; reboot
[03:00] <thoreauputic> Ashton_K: i like to have one stable install and one to play with :)
[03:00] <cafuego_> you cna always try to get xen working under edgy
[03:00] <thoreauputic> cafuego: yeah, that would do it :)
[03:02] <levander> When I start bittornado, I keep getting an "Couldn't listen - (98, 'Adress already in use')" error.  Somebody can tell me how to get around this?
[03:03] <cafuego_> levander: kill the prevuious instance that's using the bittorrent port
[03:04] <nn> njws01 login: jimmy.neutron
[03:04] <Ashton_K> Praying time!
[03:04] <nn>          Access denied. Please insert your smartcard and try again!
[03:04] <nn> woohooo
[03:04] <Arithmomaniac> I am having serious problems with the 915 resolution installation
[03:04] <cafuego_> Ashton_K: whatnow? why?
[03:04] <Ashton_K> Smartcard security?
[03:04] <Ashton_K> Oh, joy!
[03:04] <Arithmomaniac> I have an Acer Aspire 1640
[03:04] <bushel> hi @ all
[03:04] <levander> cafuego_: that's the thing, I thought I had.
[03:04] <nn> Ashton_K: oh yeaaa
[03:04] <cafuego_> Ashton_K: make-kpkg
[03:04] <Ashton_K> cafuego, compiling a kernel so it'll like my wireless driver better.
[03:04] <nn>           You have connected to a U.S. government information system.
[03:04] <kenshin> what's a good channel to ask a cups question in?
[03:04] <Arithmomaniac> With an intel 915GM card
[03:04] <nn>                        This device is administered by:
[03:04] <nn>              Department of Defense, Department of Ninja Affairs
[03:04] <bushel> i try to conect to the inet but cant find kinternet
[03:04] <Ashton_K> Oh my.
[03:04] <nn> wtf is dept of ninja affairs?
[03:05] <levander> cafuego_: but, I waited awhile, typed in above, and tried again, it started fine.  Maybe it just takes longer than usual for bittornado to release the port?
[03:05] <Arithmomaniac> I'm afraid I'm being lost...
[03:05] <cafuego_> levander: Just cehck what's using the port via 'netstat'
[03:05] <Arithmomaniac> ...these should be forked
[03:05] <Ashton_K> levander, or it's leaking internet connections.
[03:05] <idlemind> because bush is all smoke and mirrors
[03:05] <Ashton_K> Which differs from other politicians how?
[03:05] <Arithmomaniac> Anyways, I have this 915 chipset..
[03:05] <Arithmomaniac> ...And it only does 1024x768
[03:06] <Arithmomaniac> I have a 1280x800 monitor, so it is driven me crazy
[03:06] <Ashton_K> Hrm, shit monkeys.
[03:06] <nn> Ashton_K: Im kind of confused about DNA :)
[03:06] <Ashton_K> When this thing is done, it's gonna write over my current kernel isn't it?
[03:07] <Arithmomaniac> I tried to edit my xorg, but it was read-only, and I don't know how to edit permossions
[03:07] <nn> are they really ninjas?
[03:07] <nn> Ashton_K: No
[03:07] <Arithmomaniac> What cany I do about this?
[03:07] <Ashton_K> k, good.
[03:07] <cafuego_> Arithmomaniac: 'sudop dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg'
[03:07] <Arithmomaniac> First, I tried the think on the wiki page
[03:07] <Ashton_K> What'll be called? Will it just add a few ABI numebrs?
[03:07] <Arithmomaniac> cafuego_
[03:08] <nn> bbl
[03:08] <Captain_Redbeard> Hmm I'm having troubles with java... I can't seem to get java 1.5 installed...
[03:08] <Arithmomaniac> I did that, and I just ended up with more options than I can handle
[03:08] <Ashton_K> Hrm, when this kernel compilation is done, where will the kernel image be located?
[03:08] <Arithmomaniac> First, the wiki page recomments enabling i815
[03:08] <Arithmomaniac> for the first box
[03:08] <Arithmomaniac> But that is not even a question
[03:08] <Arithmomaniac> I mean, option
[03:08] <thoreauputic> Captain_Redbeard: did you run  sudo update-alternatives --config java  ?
[03:09] <kenshin> is there any reason not to upgrade from dapper to edgy?
[03:09] <kitche> Arithmomaniac: sure it is it's i810 not i815
[03:09] <Arithmomaniac> But then what about all the options afterwards?
[03:09] <kitche> kenshin: dapper is still being supported that's the only reason really
[03:09] <Ashton_K> Kenshin, the Atheros chipset wireless cards are having spotchy problems in edgy.
[03:09] <Draxzo> hey guys.. any clue what program I can use to install a .bin file?
[03:09] <Ashton_K> Mine is borked, but not all of them are.
[03:09] <Arithmomaniac> And after a long time, it asks for more screen resolutions...
[03:10] <kenshin> Ashton_K, don't have a wireless card, but thanks for the heads-up
[03:10] <Arithmomaniac> ...which I could use...
[03:10] <kitche> Draxzo" .bin is self-executable
[03:10] <Captain_Redbeard> thoreauputic: uhm... nopes thanks though I'll give it a try and i'll see what it yields
[03:10] <thoreauputic> kenshin: 3 years support for 6.06 LTS, 18 months for edgy
[03:10] <Arithmomaniac> And none are 1280x800
[03:10] <thoreauputic> Captain_Redbeard: you need to do that
[03:10] <hope13> does it cost money for LTS version?
[03:10] <hope13> >,>
[03:10] <Ashton_K> thoreaputic, that's paid support right?
[03:10] <bizinichi`> sup?
[03:10] <raxip> yo
[03:10] <kenshin> commercial support?
[03:10] <thoreauputic> Captain_Redbeard: you just type the right number for it :)
[03:10] <kitche> hope13: no only for commerical support it costs
[03:10] <hope13> oh
[03:10] <Captain_Redbeard> thoreauputic: wicked... :D
[03:11] <thoreauputic> Ashton_K: no, just means the repos will be around longer I think
[03:11] <Arithmomaniac> That's about where I got up to
[03:11] <kenshin> is #ubuntu the free support?
[03:11] <Draxzo> kitche, how do I execute it? :)
[03:11] <Ashton_K> Ah.
[03:11] <bizinichi`> out of interest
[03:11] <raxip> you tell me
[03:11] <Arithmomaniac> I'll do it again. why not
[03:11] <Ashton_K> So Edgy is supposed to have a shorter lifespan?
[03:11] <hope13> it's every six month no?
[03:11] <kitche> Draxzo: chmod +x <name>.bin then ./<name>.bin
[03:11] <makuseru> Hi, I have a problem. I restarted my computer and after i rebooted i dont have sound anymore. Can someone help?
[03:11] <thoreauputic> Ashton_K: yes, same as warty, hoary, breezy
[03:11] <Ashton_K> 18 months vs 3 years.
[03:11] <Ashton_K> :P
[03:11] <hope13> um i have breezy
[03:11] <kitche> hope13: ubuntu is released every 6 months
[03:11] <Ashton_K> Dapper seems pretty damned stable though.
[03:11] <hope13> i don't have a blank cd
[03:11] <Draxzo> oh, it's a .package kitche
[03:11] <Ashton_K> Internet upgrades.
[03:12] <thoreauputic> Ashton_K: it is
[03:12] <kitche> Draxzo: same way then
[03:12] <hope13> how do you do that?
[03:12] <Ashton_K> I might downgrade.
[03:12] <Draxzo> sweet kitche :)
[03:12] <hope13> i'm new lol
[03:12] <Arithmomaniac> THe autodetect does not work, so I'm going to the i810
[03:12] <Ashton_K> This whole "No wireless thing" puts a tick in everything.
[03:12] <bushel> how can I find Kinternet?
[03:12] <Trynemj0el> Draxzo, http://www.jonhoweonline.com/blog/node/82
[03:12] <Captain_Redbeard> Uhm... what is the real difference in FrostWire and LimeWire..? FrostWire is opensource... but it has a close to identical interface?
[03:12] <hope13> lol i have broadcom
[03:12] <Ashton_K> Is fiesty gonna have LTS like Dapper?
[03:12] <hope13> T_T
[03:12] <thoreauputic> Ashton_K: no
[03:12] <kitche> !frostwire
[03:12] <ubotu> frostwire is a totally open source version of Limewire.  For installation help, please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FrostWire
[03:12] <makuseru> what is LTS?
[03:13] <thoreauputic> Ashton_K: I don't know how often the LTS releases are
[03:13] <hope13> is it in java?
[03:13] <kitche> Long term support
[03:13] <thoreauputic> !lts
[03:13] <ubotu> LTS means Long Term Support. LTS versions of Ubuntu will be supported for 3 years on the desktop, and 5 years on the server.
[03:13] <superkirbyartist> OK, how do I install the splash before/after Ubuntu?
[03:13] <hope13> is frost wire in java?
[03:13] <Ashton_K> I'm not going to be able to babysit this machine, so I might downgrade to 6.06
[03:13] <Draxzo> oh, thanks for the link Trynemj0el :)
[03:13] <Pie-rate> Why does linux seem to be worse than windows at multitasking, especially for games? For example, if i'm running the Jedi Knight 2 Dedicated Server in the background on windows and i max out the priority, the server never lags. on linux with nice -20, the server lags when i open the game client.
[03:13] <Ashton_K> The users of these machines won't be able to tell the differences in the Kernels anyawys.
[03:14] <Ashton_K> Pie-Rate, it might be the IPv6 stack....
[03:14] <Ashton_K> I believe not everyone uses it yet.
[03:14] <thoreauputic> Pie-rate: nice -20 ? that's extreme
[03:14] <Arithmomaniac> Finally, it works.
[03:14] <Arithmomaniac> I found 1280x800
[03:14] <Ashton_K> I mean hell, the EA BF2 server denies connections to those using IPv6.
[03:14] <digin4> argh nvidia drivers aren't working on edgy :(
[03:14] <makuseru> what is LTS?
[03:14] <Pie-rate> thoreauputic: yes, but it still doesn't totally remove all lag
[03:14] <makuseru> oops
[03:14] <makuseru> Hi, I have a problem. I restarted my computer and after i rebooted i dont have sound anymore. Can someone help?
[03:15] <Ashton_K> Are you in the sound group?
[03:15] <thoreauputic> Pie-rate: I think you got the renice the wrong way round
[03:15] <Arithmomaniac> But not it asks for the "best" rate, and the 1280x800 won't work
[03:15] <neuratix> makuseru: check that both pcm and headphone volume is turned up
[03:15] <Ashton_K> makuseru: System -> Administration -> Users and Groups
[03:15] <thoreauputic> Pie-rate: don't you want to renice other processes ?
[03:15] <Arithmomaniac> I mean, it's not there
[03:15] <Pie-rate> thoreauputic: the process sits at 0-1% usage anyway, why does it matter if its ultra-high priority?
[03:16] <Arithmomaniac> Should I jsut pick the best one I know my monitor can do?
[03:16] <thoreauputic> Pie-rate: *shrug* I might be misunderstanding you
[03:16] <Ashton_K> Click your name, check "Properties" and go to "User Priviledges," Make sure "Able to use Audio devices" is checked.
[03:16] <Arithmomaniac> I just don't know
[03:16] <Ashton_K> (I miss the old user groups in the GUI tool)
[03:16] <Arithmomaniac> I accidentally pressed enter from the description
[03:16] <Arithmomaniac> And can't go back and read it
[03:17] <Ashton_K> Argh, still compiling
[03:17] <Arithmomaniac> I'll try 1024x768
[03:17] <Pie-rate> thoreauputic: basically i want the server process (the one i'm renicing to -20) to never ever lag, even if i'm trying to use all the system's resources with another program
[03:17] <makuseru> Ashton_K: what does that have to do with sound?
[03:17] <digin4> what's the nvidia package name for edgy?
[03:17] <makuseru> oh
[03:17] <makuseru> nvm
[03:18] <Arithmomaniac> OK.  Is there some start guiline  to lisp programming?
[03:22] <Ashton_K> Maybe the more stable dapper would be wise for a machine that noobs will be using.
[03:23] <thoreauputic> JAnYou: umm - have you tried googling for "lisp programming emacs" or similar?
[03:23] <_fnord> whats e code name for 6.06
[03:23] <Ashton_K> dapper
[03:23] <Ashton_K> Dapper Drake actually
[03:23] <thoreauputic> or "lisp configuration emacs" I suppose ...
[03:24] <kenThomson> Merry X'Mas!!!
[03:24] <kenThomson> Anyone awake?
[03:24] <Ashton_K> Yes.
[03:24] <thoreauputic> yes
[03:24] <thoreauputic> sort of
[03:24] <thoreauputic> ;p
[03:24] <hope13> merry xmas
[03:24] <Nikolas> Jesusmas insult kazakhstan
[03:25] <thoreauputic> Nikolas: chill
[03:25] <hope13> merry kwaza
[03:25] <kenThomson> Do any of you use fs-driver.org's drivers to write files to ext3 fron Windows?
[03:25] <lupine_85> meh. you lot are all a bunch of monotheists anyway
[03:25] <hope13> i'm agnostic lol
[03:25] <lupine_85> Nikolas: my gods kick the, ahem, bottom of your god any day
[03:25] <thoreauputic> OK before this gets out of hand - religion is off-yopic
[03:25] <kenThomson> yes
[03:25] <lupine_85> I know :) sorry
[03:25] <Ashton_K> Merry Christmas, it isn't a christian holiday anyways (athiest here)
[03:25] <Lunar_Lamp> lupine_85, monotheist and proud I am ;-)
[03:26] <Nikolas> For the record: I'm not from kazakhstan and I'm an atheist
[03:26] <hope13> yeaaah athiest!
[03:26] <hope13> lol
[03:26] <thoreauputic> *cough* I *really* don't want to kick people today....
[03:26] <Lunar_Lamp> thoreauputic, sorry, though I still wish everyone a Happy Christmas :-)
[03:26] <kenThomson> Now if i could get some attention, once the religious summit is over; Do any of you use fs-driver.org's drivers to write files to ext3 from Windows?
[03:26] <thoreauputic> OK :)
[03:27] <hope13> i dunno
[03:27] <thoreauputic> kenThomson: no windows on my boxen, sorry
[03:27] <kenThomson> no-one?
[03:27] <hope13> how do i update my ubuntu from 5.10 to 6.10 without having a blank cd?
[03:27] <Lunar_Lamp> kenThomson, I don't, but I believe they work well.
[03:27] <hope13> >,>
[03:27] <Ashton_K> No, I don't.
[03:27] <makuseru> is there anyway to add free space on a drive to another partition
[03:27] <QwertyM> mmm, how does one disable maximize and minimize effects in gnome ?
[03:27] <Ashton_K> I'd imagine they work fine though, since ext3 and 2 are open source.
[03:27] <kenThomson> OK
[03:28] <Ashton_K> So open source drivers for windows to write/read ext2 and 3 should be fine.
[03:28] <lupine_85> I know the ext2 one works well
[03:28] <omglol> im trying to setup my wifi card. wifi radar dont show anything. but iwconfig shows the card is detected. whats wrong?
[03:28] <lupine_85> dunno about the ext3 one
[03:28] <Ashton_K> I'm still leary of ntfs-36.
[03:28] <Ashton_K> *3g
[03:28] <kenThomson> One more thing how many of you are on GNOME and on KDE. And what do you recommend form both this environments from your personal experience?
[03:28] <Ashton_K> I don't know why ext3 wouldn't work.
[03:28] <hope13> is the wifi a broadcom?
[03:28] <Ashton_K> Gnome here.
[03:28] <Ashton_K> I want to try Beryl (does that replace X? Or does it replace Gnome?)
[03:28] <lupine_85> omglol: how about sudo iwlist <interface> ?
[03:28] <lupine_85> Ashton_K: neither. it replaces metacity
[03:28] <hope13> x is always with unix
[03:28] <makuseru> is there anyway to add free space on a drive to another partition
[03:28] <hope13> no?
[03:29] <lupine_85> my wifi card doesn't play well with scanning and not being a root user. Quite strange.
[03:29] <kenThomson> makuseru: I dont think so
[03:29] <thoreauputic> makuseru: use gparted from the live CD
[03:29] <slicky> can i install kde when iv already got gnome installed?
[03:29] <kenThomson> People KDE or GNOME, and why?
[03:29] <Lunar_Lamp> kenThomson, kde is more widely used and slightly closer to default windows. I used it for a long time then switched to GNOME when I changed to ubuntu.  It's a bit different, but they are both good imo.  I prefer gnome now as I'm more used to it.
[03:29] <omglol> lupine_85: i get unknown command 'wlan0'
[03:29] <hope13> Gnome cuz it's default with ubuntu lol
[03:29] <lupine_85> erm, add a scan between iwlist and <interface> :)
[03:30] <makuseru> thoreauputic: i want to keep my root partition, im just trying to add space i have to the partition
[03:30] <kenThomson> Lunar_Lamp: I was looking for some strong reasons aside for the lethargy to change defaults, thanks anyways :)
[03:30] <omglol> lupine_85: i get 'no sacn results'
[03:30] <kenThomson> lupine_85: KDE or GNOME and why?
[03:30] <Ashton_K> I prefer Gnome, cleaner.
[03:30] <Ashton_K> Less clutter.
[03:30] <hope13> GNOME cuz it's default
[03:30] <hope13> and it make life easier
[03:30] <hope13> lol
[03:30] <Ashton_K> And I found that Kubuntu for some reason doesn't work quite the same.
[03:30] <slide> Is there anyway to make it so when a file is created in a certain directory, it will automatically take on the owner/group from the parent dir?
[03:30] <Ashton_K> And gave me issues with nvidia-glx.
[03:30] <SmashCat> Hi, anyone here any good with wine? I need to set a virtual desktop for an app, but winecfg has that option greyed out, so I'm wondering where it stores settings so I can do it manually.
[03:30] <lupine_85> kenThomson: either, because life is too short to care
[03:31] <thoreauputic> makuseru: it depends how your partitions are configured, really - tomergae partitions you have to do destructive stuff
[03:31] <eztk> anyone happen to know how to undo xmodmap changes... i tried to disable control + backspace.. but it seems to have messed up certain keys
[03:31] <thoreauputic> makuseru: umm - I meant "to merge partitions"
[03:31] <Ashton_K> What are the differences between ext2, 3, and the new 4 anyways?
[03:31] <makuseru> i have a happer
[03:31] <makuseru> hammer*
[03:31] <makuseru> destructive enough?
[03:31] <hope13> um how can update from 5.10 to 6.10 w/o a blank cd? is there a way?
[03:31] <kenThomson> lupine_85: Apart from philosophy if we could shrink it down to the pragmatic level, why?
[03:32] <thoreauputic> makuseru: heheh - not strong on metaphors are you ;-)
[03:32] <kenThomson> Ashton_K: The Ext3 file system is the Ext2 file system which has been extended by journaling. Ext3 is backward-compatible to Ext2 - an Ext3 volume can be mounted and used as an Ext2 volume. Just as older Linux Kernels which do not know the Ext3 file system can mount Ext3 volumes (as Ext2 volumes), the Ext2 file system driver ext2fs.sys for Windows incorporated in this software package can do...
[03:32] <kenThomson> ...it without any problems, too. Of course you do not take advantage of the journaling of the Ext3 file system if you mount it as an Ext2 file system.
[03:32] <makuseru> thoreauputic: i was being scarcastic
[03:32] <thoreauputic> makuseru: yes, i gathered - so was I :)
[03:32] <Ashton_K> ken, any major advantages to using one, or the other?
[03:32] <_fnord> kubuntu-offtopic
[03:32] <lupine_85> kenThomson: really. use whatever you like
[03:33] <thoreauputic> makuseru: hence the smiley
[03:33] <makuseru> ah
[03:33] <lupine_85> although linus torvalds says use KDE... :p
[03:33] <kenThomson> lupine_85: As far as your choice goes....what do you recommend? (is it really hard to answer me)
[03:33] <kenThomson> lupine_85: yeah i heard that
[03:33] <Ashton_K> Try them both out.
[03:33] <Ashton_K> It's a preference thing.
[03:33] <_fnord> <----loves kde
[03:33] <lupine_85> I only make a recommendation when it's likely to be useful
[03:34] <kenThomson> Ashton_K: Ext2 = newer, safer, journalled.
[03:34] <idlemind> kde seems to flashy to me
[03:34] <kenThomson> Ashton_K: *Make that EXT#
[03:34] <lupine_85> that said, I find that the KDE integrated apps tend to be better than the GNOME integrated aps
[03:34] <Ashton_K> Ext2 is newer?
[03:34] <Ashton_K> Ah, 3.
[03:34] <kenThomson> Ashton_K: *Make that EXT3
[03:34] <lupine_85> so use KDE, why not?
[03:34] <thoreauputic> makuseru: the basic problem is that you can't push one partition into another - you have to destroy something to make space
[03:34] <Ashton_K> (What the hell is Journaling, or would it be hard to explain?)
[03:34] <kitche> Ashton_K: ext3 is being replaced in a while with ext4
[03:34] <lupine_85> it's a record of all your disc operations
[03:34] <_fnord> ive noticed kde runs slower on my computer and other agree,yet people also agree the gnome runs slower on thiers,s try t out see whch one works best
[03:34] <lupine_85> an, ahem, journal of them :p
[03:35] <omglol> lupine_85: i get unknown command 'wlan0' when i do 'iwlist wlan0 scanning
[03:35] <omglol> lupine_85: i get unknown command 'wlan0' when i do 'iwlist wlan0 scanning'
[03:35] <Ashton_K> Lupine, did you strip it down or something?
[03:35] <lupine_85> omglol: iwlist wlan0 scan != iwlist wlan0 scanning
[03:35] <_fnord> kde is great for eyecandy
[03:35] <lupine_85> Ashton_K: no, it was like that OOTB
[03:35] <Ashton_K> Strange.
[03:35] <Ashton_K> Must be a library thing.
[03:35] <makuseru> thoreauputic: well, i only have one partition, the other WAS a partition, i eraced it, so now its just "free"
[03:35] <lupine_85> xubuntu vs. kununtu
[03:35] <lupine_85> erm, kubuntu
[03:36] <omglol> lupine_85: i get no scan results
[03:36] <Ashton_K> Personally, I find Gnome to be better.
[03:36] <thoreauputic> makuseru: then you can expand into the free space
[03:36] <Ashton_K> Cleaner, faster, etc.
[03:36] <makuseru> how?
[03:36] <Ashton_K> But that's just in my experience.
[03:36] <thoreauputic> makuseru: or make it a partition
[03:36] <Ashton_K> (Although SUSE has a pretty freaking nice setup on KDE)
[03:36] <lupine_85> omglol: are you in range of the AP? Is SSID broadcast enabled? any errors in dmesg?
[03:36] <lupine_85> SuSE-- :p
[03:36] <makuseru> thoreauputic: im trying to expand my root into that free space
[03:36] <Ashton_K> I feel like capitalizing the u, so sue me.
[03:36] <thoreauputic> makuseru: is it "next door" ?
[03:36] <makuseru> yes
[03:36] <kenThomson> People: What bittorent clients you use? (i find the choices in GNOME to be extremely limited)
[03:36] <lupine_85> ktorrent
[03:37] <kenThomson> lupine_85: ktorrent looks like sh*t on GNOME :(
[03:37] <makuseru> ktorrent > any other torrent client ever
[03:37] <Ashton_K> Looks aren't important with bittorrent.
[03:37] <Ashton_K> :P
[03:37] <thoreauputic> makuseru: maybe make a new partition, and copy over something from the root partition - like /var/ or /usr or whatever
[03:37] <omglol> lupine_85: im close enough.. on my laptop i can see 3 ap... on my problematic desktop i see none
 you can just use bt
[03:37] <lupine_85> rtorrent?
[03:37] <Ashton_K> Would installing the kde libraries help with those look issues.
[03:37] <Ashton_K> *?
[03:37] <kenThomson> Ashton_K: but it shouldn't hurt my eyes, or should it?
[03:37] <kenThomson> lupine_85: what is that?
[03:37] <thoreauputic> makuseru: of course you would need to fiddle with /etc/fstab and so on
[03:37] <Ashton_K> Eh, doesn't matter, tbh.
[03:38] <lupine_85> !info rtorrent
[03:38] <ubotu> rtorrent: ncurses BitTorrent client based on LibTorrent. In component universe, is extra. Version 0.5.3-1 (edgy), package size 232 kB, installed size 636 kB
[03:38] <Ashton_K> I'd take a text-based torrent client actually.
[03:38] <lupine_85> it's quite nice
[03:38] <Ashton_K> Isn't Azureus open source?
[03:38] <Ashton_K> If so, a lot of trackers trust it.
[03:38] <kenThomson> lupine_85: You use rtorrent or ktorrent?
[03:39] <bushel> i9s there anybody that could help with a setup of a dailup connection ppp?
[03:39] <Ashton_K> That being said, does Beryl even use KDE or Gnome, or is it something proprietary?
[03:39] <lupine_85> kenThomson: ktorrent at home; rtorrent in london
[03:39] <lupine_85> Ashton_K: beryl is WM-independent
[03:39] <Ashton_K> That's what I thought.
[03:39] <lupine_85> it's built on cairo, glib and libwnck  -all open-source
[03:39] <lupine_85> beryl itself is GPL :)
[03:39] <Ashton_K> I knew that.
[03:39] <thoreauputic> makuseru: doing that would free space on your root partition - and once it all works you can erase the original /var/ or /usr  etc
[03:39] <Ashton_K> :P
[03:40] <Ashton_K> That being said.
[03:40] <Ashton_K> 6.10 isn't doing what I need.
[03:40] <Cmweb> Is their any way to limit my networks port 80 to 2KB?   so that when they connect to the internet through my pc they only get 2KB and it does not go any lower or higher. That way we always have a constant speed
[03:40] <Ashton_K> Time to downgrade.
[03:40] <makuseru> thoreauputic: i didnt understand any of that
[03:40] <Ashton_K> Easy way to do it with apt, or should I just find the disc?
[03:40] <thoreauputic> makuseru: hmmm - well maybe it isn't a good idea to do it then :)
[03:40] <makuseru> haha
[03:40] <kenThomson> Ashton_K: and what does it not do?
[03:41] <bushel> if there is anybody that could help with a setup of dailup internet conection, please tell me how to do it :) room _> ppp_setup
[03:41] <Ashton_K> Wireless.
[03:41] <kenThomson> bushel: pppconf
[03:41] <Ashton_K> Seems more powerful, newer kernels, but I'm not going to be available to babysit this machine.
[03:41] <bushel> yes pppconfic
[03:41] <Ashton_K> This is going to someone who will just want it to work, without them fiddling with it.
[03:41] <rtrento> could someone help me with a problem I am having printing in xubuntu
[03:41] <kenThomson> bushel: type "sudo pppconf" at a terminal and follow the wizard
[03:42] <Ashton_K> Easy way to downgrade in apt to Dapper, or is the disc wiser?
[03:42] <thoreauputic> makuseru: I was suggesting shuffling stuff off "root" onto new partitions you create in the free space, then removing the originals afterwards - but you would need to understand what you were doing
[03:42] <makuseru> thoreauputic: is there not a program that will do it?
[03:42] <makuseru> thoreauputic: i dont have enough freespace to do that
[03:42] <thoreauputic> makuseru: several - but you still need to know what you are doing
[03:42] <kitche> Ashton_K: there is no way to downgrade from within you iwll have to doa complete reinstall
[03:42] <Ashton_K> k
[03:43] <Ashton_K> Probably cleaner that way.
[03:43] <thoreauputic> makuseru: how much space do you have?
[03:43] <makuseru> im on a 9gb drive, 2gb is in free space, and the rest is my root
[03:43] <Cmweb> Is their any way to limit my networks port 80 to 2KB?   so that when they connect to the internet through my pc they only get 2KB and it does not go any lower or higher. That way we always have a constant speed
[03:43] <Ashton_K> I'll be back on the other box.
[03:43] <Ashton_K> ... eventually.
[03:43] <thoreauputic> makuseru: how much of the 9GB is used now?
[03:43] <makuseru> 8
[03:43] <thoreauputic> makuseru: hmm - yes well....
[03:44] <thoreauputic> makuseru: how about making the 2GB your /home ? Or part of it?
[03:44] <makuseru> how do i do that?
[03:44] <OkinawaInstructo> does anyone know how to remove xsane without removing ubuntu desktop also... I am having problems getting my scanner to work and somone suggested to remove and reinstall xsane
[03:44] <thoreauputic> makuseru: depends how much data yoou have of course...
[03:45] <makuseru> 8gb
[03:45] <makuseru> ha
[03:45] <jackycxh> hello
[03:45] <bretzel> Centrino Core Duo make things fast! especially @compile-time! :-)
[03:45] <jackycxh> I am newbie to Ubuntu.
[03:45] <thoreauputic> makuseru: running out of ideas here in that case :)
[03:46] <kitche> OkinawaInstructo: ubuntu-desktop is just a meta package that is safe to remove
[03:46] <OkinawaInstructo> kitche: thanks, i thought it would remove my desktop also
[03:46] <thoreauputic> makuseru: just make the 2GB a data partition and mount it as /data or something  I guess
[03:46] <nix_ferret> This is probably going to sound pretty handicapped, but... can you use KDE apps if you're using Gnome?
[03:47] <makuseru> how do i do that?
[03:47] <thoreauputic> nix_ferret: sure
[03:47] <SpacePuppy> nix_ferret: yup
[03:47] <thoreauputic> makuseru: *cough* have you looked at gparted? So you have a live CD?
[03:47] <nix_ferret> Is there anything I should know? Like incompatibilities?
[03:47] <bretzel> nix_ferret: uh? you can run kde apps in gnome, and gnome-apps in kde :-)
[03:47] <thoreauputic> !gparted | makuseru
[03:47] <ubotu> makuseru: gparted is a GUI partitioning program, "apt-get install gparted", also available as a live cd http://gparted.sourceforge.net/livecd.php
[03:47] <makuseru> i have qtparted
[03:48] <thoreauputic> makuseru: that would be fine
[03:48] <makuseru> i ment how do i mount it
[03:48] <bretzel> thoreauputic -- yeah, last release seems cool to use ( gparted )
[03:48] <thoreauputic> makuseru: put an entry in /etc/fstab for it
[03:48] <rj45> hi my friends
[03:48] <nix_ferret> Ok, cool. Segway into my next one... Can I switch b/w Gnome and KDE in a dynamic sense. Like maybe at boot time?
[03:49] <thoreauputic> makuseru: you can also mount manually with something like  sudo mount -t ext3 /dev/hd* /data
[03:49] <thoreauputic> makuseru: but that gets old fast
[03:51] <Valmarko> What is the best dvd player ?
[03:51] <makuseru> valmarko: okie
[03:51] <thoreauputic> Valmarko: hah - matter of opinion
[03:51] <omglol> is the kernel inside /usr/src/linux?
[03:51] <leprasmurf> how can I check if a particular module is loaded?  modprobe -l|grep module ?
[03:51] <makuseru> valmarko: okle**
[03:51] <bretzel> any tried ubuntu based LinuxMint ?
[03:51] <Valmarko> right :) tanks
[03:52] <thoreauputic> Valmarko: vlc, totem-xine, mplayer .....
[03:52] <omglol> where is the ubuntu kernel located
[03:52] <thoreauputic> omglol: /boot
[03:52] <omglol> k
[03:53] <bking39116> hello all!  does anyone have exp. with Brother HL-1440 laser printer and CUPS?
[03:53] <thoreauputic> omglol: the actual kernel is "vmlinuz-* " ( with some numbers)
[03:54] <thoreauputic> !anyone
[03:54] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[03:54] <Rprp> hmm, i tried to install mysqldb, but i fail, so whats wrong with this: http://rafb.net/p/RDQTOh23.html ?
[03:58] <kitche> Rprp: do you have build-essential installed?
[03:58] <Rprp> yes.
[03:58] <kitche> Rprp: you can install the binry package probably be easier for you
[03:59] <kitche> Since there is a lot of syntax errors according to the paste that you posted
[04:00] <Rprp> hm. :?
[04:01] <Rprp> i tried apt-get,... it works. but it says only Connection to MySQL failed (In a script) and the settigns are oke
[04:01] <omglol> i installed wireless drivers for acx100, and when i do iwlist wlan scan i get "Interface doesn't support scanning: Resource temporarily unavailable".  cant figure out :(
[04:02] <omglol> wifi radar doesnt show anything
[04:02] <gouki> omglol: Have you ifconfig wlan up ?
[04:03] <jackycxh> maybe you kernel had not found the new WL device.
[04:03] <jackycxh> omglol: can you find it in dmesg?
[04:03] <omglol> gouki: i did that and i did the scan again and i got "no scan results"
[04:04] <Cmweb> Can any one tell bushel how to install a modem in edgy
[04:04] <Ashton_K> Ole!
[04:04] <gouki> omglol: Just to make sure: iwlist wlan scanning
[04:05] <omglol> jackycxh: i do dmesg | grep wlan0 i get wlan0(WE) driver using old /prov/net/wireless support, please see fix driver
[04:05] <omglol> and wlan0: link is not ready
[04:05] <xyz> can any one help
[04:05] <omglol> gouki: i did that and get the same error
[04:05] <QwertyM> mmm, how does one disable maximize and minimize effects in gnome ?
[04:05] <omglol> gouki: i did that and get the same error: no scan results
[04:06] <xyz>  i get
[04:06] <xyz>  configure: error: C++ preprocessor "/lib/cpp" fails sanity check
[04:06] <Ashton_K> Hooray for watching TV on a computer.
[04:06] <gouki> omglol: Are you sure there are WiFi networks around?
[04:07] <Ashton_K> Slightly important to using a wifi card.
[04:07] <omglol> gouki: my laptop beside me sees 3 networks
[04:07] <omglol> my dmesg says driver using old /prov/net/wireless support, please fix driver"
[04:08] <vaporglow> hello
[04:09] <jackycxh> omglol: maybe something wrong with your driver of WL device.
[04:09] <vaporglow> fast question: is VMware of any use for playing windows games on linux without having to dual boot?
[04:09] <kitche> vaporglow: it's slow
[04:09] <vaporglow> both graphic intense and non graphic intense
[04:09] <idlemind> vaporglow: vmware isn't 3d accel. so most games no
[04:10] <omglol> jackycxh: i followed the acx wiki instructions and used the latest stable driver
[04:10] <vaporglow> so wine is the only option, and a buggy option at best
[04:10] <Ashton_K> Indeed.
[04:10] <Ashton_K> if you want intensive games, dual boot is the only way to go, tbh.
[04:10] <Ashton_K> Especially if you want online.
[04:11] <Ashton_K> Punkbuster reportedly doesn't like you running games on Wine.
[04:11] <QwertyM> mmm, how does one disable maximize and minimize effects in gnome ?
[04:11] <vaporglow> not really worried about playing counterstrike
[04:11] <etunbe> QwertyM: effects?
[04:11] <vaporglow> for instance... would something like starcraft work?
[04:11] <Ashton_K> Counterstrike doesn't use PunkBuster.
[04:11] <Ashton_K> :P
[04:11] <vaporglow> or Civ 4
[04:12] <QwertyM> etunbe, those rectangulr boxes closing on to bottom or going up
[04:12] <QwertyM> default gnome max/min effects
[04:12] <jackycxh> Can you try to downgrade the driver to a lower version.
[04:12] <etunbe> QwertyM: understand... no idea... are they so unconfortable?
[04:13] <QwertyM> etunbe, I find it irritating :)
[04:14] <etunbe> QwertyM: first time i realize they are there... and my machine is 5 years old ;)
[04:14] <QwertyM> haha
[04:15] <aa>  ~~   bb
[04:15] <etunbe> ok, i want to wish all ubuntu users a marry christmas and that 2007 be the year
[04:15] <nix_ferret> marry xmas to u 2
[04:16] <nix_ferret> and merry too
[04:16] <etunbe> hahaha
[04:17] <nix_ferret> Is there a list of good laptops to use w/ ubuntu?
[04:17] <bking39116> how does one solve a "printer not connected; retry in 30 seconds" error with Brother HL-1440 laser connected via USB.  printer will print until it goes to sleep and then will not wake.
[04:17] <bking39116> printint via cups
[04:20] <astroboy>  #slug
[04:20] <Mark1412> I NEED AN .AVI CONVERTER!!!
[04:20] <Mark1412> WHERE CAN I GET ONE
[04:20] <kitche> !shout|mark1412
[04:20] <ubotu> mark1412: PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[04:20] <apokryphos> Mark1412: drop the caps please.
[04:20] <etunbe> nix_ferret: may be www.linux-laptop.net?
[04:20] <Mark1412> :) merry christmas
[04:21] <lupine_85> Mark1412: mencoder
[04:21] <Mark1412> ty