[02:25] <mup> Issue operator#968 closed: pull_path doesn't retrieve empty directories <bug> <small item> <Created by benhoyt> <Closed by benhoyt> <https://github.com/canonical/operator/issues/968>
[02:25] <mup> PR operator#1024 closed: fix: push_path and pull_path include empty directories <bug> <Created by tonyandrewmeyer> <Merged by benhoyt> <https://github.com/canonical/operator/pull/1024>
[03:06] <mup> Issue operator#806 closed: Disappearing hook deferral problem <Created by rwcarlsen> <Closed by benhoyt> <https://github.com/canonical/operator/issues/806>
[03:16] <mup> Issue operator#803 closed: It's easy to access stale relation data in the testing harness <Created by pengale> <Closed by benhoyt> <https://github.com/canonical/operator/issues/803>
[03:24] <mup> Issue operator#793 closed: Better error on attempting to set a broken relation data; facilitate guarding <Created by PietroPasotti> <Closed by benhoyt> <https://github.com/canonical/operator/issues/793>
[03:40] <mup> PR operator#1029 opened: docs: note that status changes are immediate <Created by benhoyt> <https://github.com/canonical/operator/pull/1029>
[03:41] <mup> Issue operator#767 closed: docs: explain transactional nature of hooks/events <docs> <Created by rwcarlsen> <Closed by benhoyt> <https://github.com/canonical/operator/issues/767>
[03:43] <mup> Issue operator#766 closed: [Docs] Do we need a "Debian Policy" style document for Charms and Libraries <docs> <Created by pengale> <Closed by benhoyt> <https://github.com/canonical/operator/issues/766>
[03:51] <mup> Issue operator#760 closed: Container.exec hangs unexpectedly <bug> <Created by rwcarlsen> <Closed by benhoyt> <https://github.com/canonical/operator/issues/760>
[04:16] <mup> Issue operator#719 closed: refactor Event.framework: externally managed state  <refactoring> <Created by PietroPasotti> <Closed by benhoyt> <https://github.com/canonical/operator/issues/719>
[04:25] <mup> Issue operator#706 closed: remove charmhelpers lib references from docs <docs> <Created by rwcarlsen> <Closed by benhoyt> <https://github.com/canonical/operator/issues/706>
[04:37] <mup> PR operator#1029 closed: docs: note that status changes are immediate <Created by benhoyt> <Merged by benhoyt> <https://github.com/canonical/operator/pull/1029>
[21:36] <mup> PR operator#1030 opened: test: add type hints to pebble-related tests <type hints> <Created by tonyandrewmeyer> <https://github.com/canonical/operator/pull/1030>
[22:07] <mup> PR operator#1031 opened: docs: make pebble.Client.remove_path and Container.remove_path docs consistent <docs> <Created by tonyandrewmeyer> <https://github.com/canonical/operator/pull/1031>


[00:41] <uvirtbot`> New bug: #259595 in samba (main) "synaptic unable to install - broken dependency samba-common" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/259595
[00:49] <pschulz01> What is the best way to get a package listing with versions?
[01:28] <sommer> kirkland: ya, I posted a couple of links concerning RAID, and since you're the raid master now, the props go to you :-)
[01:36] <sommer> pschulz01: dpkg -l > yay_packages.txt
[01:50] <pschulz01> sommer: Ta :-0
[01:51] <pschulz01> sommer: Thanks.. together with a git controlled /etc this gives what I want.
[01:55] <sommer> np
[01:56] <pschulz01> sommer: What is the state of the current 'ubuntu-server' documentation?
[01:57] <sommer> pschulz01: here's a link to the most updated content on the web: http://doc.ubuntu.com/~mdke/test/serverguide/C/
[01:57] <sommer> pschulz01: there's newer content in the bzr branch: bzr branch lp:ubuntu-doc
[01:59] <pschulz01> sommer: I am in the position where I can offer some paid work to some local 'interns'..  and updaing the serverguide would be good use of this resource.
[01:59] <sommer> pschulz01: sweet, the apache section needs some love... I was thinking of adding instructions for a2enmod, a2ensite, etc
[02:00] <sommer> pschulz01: also a big help is to just work through the current sections and make sure things like package names, path names, etc are still valid
[02:02] <pschulz01> sommer: That could e a good introductory excersise.
[02:02] <sommer> pschulz01: also a good learning experience :)
[02:03] <pschulz01> sommer: These guys a keen, but complete newbies.
[02:04] <sommer> heh, I remember those days... ah youth
[02:24] <Sylphid> could someone point me to a guide to set up raid1 post install without loosing data? ... i tried this one > http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Migrate_To_RAID < but im having problems booting to the new raid partition
[02:51] <uvirtbot`> New bug: #259609 in samba (main) "package samba 2:3.2.1-1ubuntu1 failed to install/upgrade: subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/259609
[03:07] <ari_stress> good morning guys :)
[03:17] <unewbi1> morning
[03:17] <ari_stress> what's the topic?
[03:18] <unewbi1> how to install mysql connector for java?
[03:19] <ari_stress> ugh, that's hard
[03:19] <ari_stress> i dont know
[03:19] <unewbi1> anyone?
[03:36] <michalski> does anyone know how to change the default runlevel in ubuntu?
[03:40] <ScottK> michalski: What problem are you trying to solve?
[03:41] <michalski> ScottK: when my computer boots it goes into runlevel 3, I need it to go into 5
[03:41] <michalski> *want it
[03:42] <ScottK> Why?
[03:42] <ScottK> I'm not sure what you think this will accomplish?
[03:43] <michalski> I jst recently customized the runlevels using sysv-rc-conf and now it send it off to 3
[03:43] <michalski> (it will send me into a graphical session?)
[03:43] <ScottK> Right because in Ubuntu 2 - 5 all do the same thing.
[03:43] <michalski> unless customized...
[03:43] <ScottK> Yes.
[03:44] <ScottK> I guess I still don't understand why.
[03:44] <michalski> I would want to do this?
[03:45] <ScottK> Yes.
[03:46] <ScottK> Note that unless you're on Dapper you're using Upstart with sysv emulation and not a try sysv init system.
[03:46] <michalski> different environmental conditions change around my server causing me to want to change runlevels at moments notice, eg: powergoes out; server going down for maintenence; unauthed user detected, ect...
[03:47] <michalski> pardon?
[03:48] <ScottK> Ubuntu doesn't use the traditional sysv inits.  It has Upstart instead.  Upstart emulates sysv very nicely, but it is a different system.
[03:48] <michalski> (what is upstart.....)
[03:49]  * ScottK hands michalski http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Upstart
[03:49] <michalski> ah
[03:50] <michalski> so why would this be a problem...we can still change the booted runlevel right?
[03:51] <ScottK> My recommendation is that althought the sysv init emulation in Upstart has been very well tested for normal use, you might be making different assumptions about normal use than the Upstart author did.
[03:51] <ScottK> I would assume, but I've never needed to do it.
[03:51] <michalski> hmm
[03:53] <ScottK> BTW, I didn't know until I read it there that Fedora had started using it.
[03:55] <michalski> hey I found it! /etc/inittab
[03:55] <michalski> theres a section in there for default runlevel
[03:55] <michalski> ...if the file existed :s
[03:59] <ScottK> I think that only even exists if you upgraded the system from Dapper.  Dunno if it still does anything or not.
[04:01] <michalski> i've only been using ubuntu since 7.04
[04:03] <michalski> i was just thinking....if you can specify the runlevel at boot (via manual input to grub), can't I just modify /boot/grub/menu.lst?
[04:11] <michalski> ok back in 10 gonna try it
[08:31] <nodoubt> rndc: error on bind restart??
[08:54] <clusty> hey
[08:54] <clusty> some distro's force users to have strong passowords
[08:54] <clusty> is it possible to automatically enfore a few rules in all users passwords?
[08:55] <clusty> i mean that will change then from now on
[08:56] <`6og> yes it is.
[08:56] <`6og> pam-cracklib would be a place to start
[09:27] <sven-tek> Hi there! I have gone through the testing steps at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EncryptedPrivateDirectory#Testing . I have got this: http://nopaste.biz/49942 "not such device"
[09:28] <kirkland> sven-tek: okay, does /home/shaggy/Private and /home/shaggy/.Private exist?
[09:29] <sven-tek> yes, they are directories
[09:32] <kirkland> sven-tek: ls -alF ~/.ecryptfs
[09:33] <sven-tek> http://nopaste.biz/49943
[09:36] <kirkland> sven-tek: which mount.ecryptfs_private
[09:36] <kirkland> sven-tek: ls -alF `which mount.ecryptfs_private`
[09:37] <kirkland> sven-tek: mount.ecryptfs_private
[09:38] <sven-tek> here it is: sven-tek@bluebox:~$ which mount.ecryptfs_private
[09:38] <sven-tek> /sbin/mount.ecryptfs_private
[09:38] <sven-tek> sven-tek@bluebox:~$ ls -alF `which mount.ecryptfs_private`
[09:38] <sven-tek> -rwsr-xr-x 1 root root 9632 2008-08-15 21:12 /sbin/mount.ecryptfs_private*
[09:38] <sven-tek> the .last filenameit is backgrounded red
[09:40] <sven-tek> But file seems to be okay: file /sbin/mount.ecryptfs_private
[09:40] <sven-tek> /sbin/mount.ecryptfs_private: setuid ELF 32-bit LSB executable, Intel 80386, version 1 (SYSV), for GNU/Linux 2.6.8, dynamically linked (uses shared libs), stripped
[09:42] <sven-tek> oh moment, iam running a custom bulid kernel. Are there any modules involved?
[09:45] <sven-tek> kirkland, sorry its my fault!
[10:16] <clusty> `6og, thanks. have some example for ubuntu? I found just some redhat stuff that claims to have been patched in some specific way
[10:40] <ghaleb> hello, I have installed pptp vpn server,  but my clients suffer from very low service, what u think the reason could be
[11:17] <hubuntu> This may be a dumb question, but I just have to ask: After installing drupal in Hardy, how can I mount a site with it? I have no idea on how to set up a site with it. Is there a sh script or something to run in a desired directory?
[11:17] <hubuntu> I'm clueless, really...
[11:18] <hubuntu> normally I just untar the file from drupal.org in a directory and there I install it, but since I'm using Ubuntu server I wanted to figure out how that works
[11:18] <hubuntu> thx in advance
[11:21] <jpds> hubuntu: Look at where it installs it: dpkg -L drupal
[12:04] <Kamping_Kaiser> clusty, no i dont, sorry
[12:04] <pschulz01> Kamping_Kaiser: !!!
[12:05] <Kamping_Kaiser> :O
[12:12] <hubuntu> found it. Thanks jpds! Now I just have to figure out how to make another drupal site on, say, a user home... anyone?
[12:38] <Kamping_Kaiser> hubuntu, that sounds like the sort of stuff which would be covered in the docs ... (/usr/share/doc/$packagename/)
[12:40] <hubuntu> yes Kamping_Kaiser, I found out. Thx
[12:41] <didrocks> hi everyone
[12:41] <hubuntu> hi didrocks
[12:42] <didrocks> I am interested in working on ufw integration (now that removing multiuser tag is done :))
[12:42] <didrocks> I saw this page, can I directly edit it to assign, let's say apache2 and openssh for a begining ? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ServerTeam/Roadmap#UFW%20Package%20Integration
[12:44] <hubuntu> didrocks, probably it's ok, but it would be better to coordinate your effort with Jamie: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JamieStrandboge
[12:45] <hubuntu> in that way he will know, and if there's work done into that, he will surely know where to point you at
[12:45] <didrocks> yes, he seems to not be there at this time. I will send him an email, thx :)
[12:46] <byte_slave> hi everyone, good afternoon!
[12:46] <hubuntu> hi byte_slave
[12:46] <didrocks> hi byte_slave
[12:47] <byte_slave> how can i completly uninstall a package even the /etc config files
[12:47] <byte_slave> i used apt-get remove --purge packagename but /etc files remain
[12:47] <hubuntu> erase those
[12:47] <byte_slave> no prob to do that manually?
[12:48] <hubuntu> not really, but you mjst be sure nothing else is using those files
[12:48] <hubuntu> what program is it you want to uinstall?
[12:48] <byte_slave> i installed mailx and sendmail
[12:48] <byte_slave> but i want completly uninstall all this and start from zero
[12:49] <byte_slave> so i have yet files in /etc/mail and /etc/mailrc
[12:50] <hubuntu> you should be careful there... anyone has some advice to share?
[12:50] <Kamping_Kaiser> byte_slave, you can either reinstall it, or `dpkg -l $package` and remove the files listed by hand
[12:51] <byte_slave> great, i ran that seems cleaned :)
[12:58] <hubuntu> dpkg -l is really useful, I can't believe I had forgotten such a feautre existed. Can it be used to find a certain library as well?
[12:58] <hubuntu> like libjpeg or something?
[12:59] <hubuntu> libjpeg.so or what the name was (needed for livecam.sourceforge.net)
[13:37] <sommer> morning
[13:38]  * delcoyote hi
[13:52] <byte_slave> question: i removed mailx and sendmail but sendmail command and mail command still in /usr/bin is that supposed?
[13:56] <uvirtbot`> New bug: #259740 in bind9 (main) "DNS: not able to use IPv6 Resolvers" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/259740
[14:05] <xiaopi> Did somebody manage to boot from an iso with last ubuntu-xen-server with an HVM kernel VM ?
[14:06] <xiaopi> Tryed all the tap:aio: / mount / losetup to loop methods
[14:07] <xiaopi> none made the trick, stuck at bios after : Booting from CD-ROM ...
[14:11] <byte_slave> i forgot the apt-get autoremove i guess :) now my question above is answered
[14:49] <vikram> How do you boot into single user mode?
[14:49] <vikram> a la init 1 ?
[15:02] <verwilst> hellow
[15:03] <verwilst> you guys know a solid SATA RAID card that works perfectly with hardy server?
[15:03] <verwilst> i know about areca, but that's 400 EUR :) something a bit cheaper but still reliable out there?
[15:07] <fromport> a secondhand areca/3ware ? ;-)
[15:09] <\sh> don't compare 3ware and areca...*grmpf* slow but stable vs. fast but unstable, at least our arecas here :(
[15:16] <vikram> init-top in the initrd, is that called before init is executed or just after?
[15:16] <maswan> We have a couple of new arecas here that seems to work fine. The previous test a couple of years ago made us not want them at all though. So things might have improved.
[15:17] <maswan> But out of choice I'd go for a 3ware card
[15:17] <axisys> after updating the update-initramfs do I need to reboot.. unfortunately on server udont get the reboot request like in client :-(
[15:17] <verwilst> hm
[15:17] <verwilst> and what about lsi megaraid?
[15:17] <verwilst> that's a lot cheaper :)
[15:18] <verwilst> areca = 490EUR, 3ware +- 270, lsi 170
[15:18] <verwilst> ive seen megaraid modules a lot, i think dell uses those, right?
[15:18] <maswan> well, if you want to go the software raid path, you can get by with a resonably cheap plain sas/sata card
[15:18] <verwilst> nah no software raid
[15:18] <verwilst> i have software raid now
[15:18] <maswan> megaraid in general is horrible, but there might be a decent one or two under that name too
[15:18] <verwilst> maswan: define horrible?
[15:19] <maswan> verwilst: weird crappy management, strange performance issues, not very reliable
[15:20] <verwilst> hm
[15:20] <verwilst> maswan: dell uses those too eh?
[15:21] <maswan> verwilst: yes, but with a different firmware
[15:21] <verwilst> oh
[15:21] <verwilst> so a second-hand 3ware would be my best bet?
[15:21] <maswan> So it'd depend on how old a dell raid it is, etc. Some of the older ones were really bad.
[15:23] <maswan> I don't keep up much with recent dells, we don't buy them anymore
[15:23] <verwilst> well my server is fully intel
[15:23] <verwilst> but i want to get rid of my software raid
[15:24] <verwilst> i have 1 raid 5 now with 3 disks
[15:24] <verwilst> and /boot on software raid = troubles i heard
[15:27] <maswan> ah, well, software raid1 is fine, but other raid levels might be troubles.
[15:27] <maswan> but if you want reliable, I'd recommend 3ware
[15:27] <verwilst> maswan: http://www.descom.be/shop.php?cPath=87 < but which one :P
[15:27] <verwilst> so many to choose from
[15:27] <verwilst> 4ports , that's for sure
[15:27] <\sh> smartarray ;) but this means switching to hp
[15:28] <verwilst> i guess all of them are supported?
[15:28] <\sh> but imho they are using lsi nowadays too
[15:28] <maswan> verwilst: sure. the higher numbers are usually faster.
[15:28] <maswan> \sh: since quite some time, IIRC. but totally different firmware.
[15:29] <\sh> maswan: yes...I'll wait for my new dl365 + p800i
[15:29] <\sh> it will replace these areca storage machines
[15:30] <maswan> \sh: our latest storage adventure is a dl185 running opensolaris and zfs. there the p800i had crap performance, so we replaced it with a plain sas card and suddenly it was very speedy.
[15:30] <\sh> attached to it a msa60 + 12x 750GB sata drives...
[15:36] <\sh> maswan: I just need the p800i because of the external storage...
[15:49] <vikram> Is there a way of removing apparmor?
[15:53] <elventear> Anybody using Xen on ubuntu-server?
[16:14] <nodoubt> MUST a bind authoritative dns server be a dns caching server inorder for local network computers to be succesfully served a webpage hosted within local network ?
[16:15] <nodoubt> or can a dns server NOT B a caching server?
[16:51] <Sp0tter> So i locked myself out of root form my server (located far away) by overwriting my group permision when I moved myself to the ftp group i created, and this was before i knew the install didn't set the root pw.  anyways is there a way to run apache web server from within my home directory without installing it ?
[16:51] <Sp0tter> I can't access the config files for it where the are from my account
[18:02] <AlexC_> g'morning
[18:18] <AlexC_> should I ideally set the delay_warning_time of Postfix to something other than 0h?
[18:19] <ScottK-laptop> AlexC_: Why do you want to change it?
[18:19] <ScottK-laptop> 4 hours is sort of normal, if you need it at all.
[18:19] <AlexC_> I'm just wondering if I should actually need it, ideally
[18:20] <lamont> nodoubt: all BIND instances have a cache.. :)  If the machine is authoritative for everything it serves, there is no need for it to allow recursion for anyone (which would mean it never got non-authoritative data into the cache)
[18:20] <AlexC_> default is 0h, which is off basically
[18:20] <lamont> AlexC_: it's zero by default because many people don't want the spamage from the mail server telling them that 4 hours has gone by
[18:20] <ScottK-laptop> User can't do anything except complain to an admin.  Decide if that's a bug or a feature.
[18:21] <AlexC_> =) I'll keep it off then
[18:31] <frith> what is the difference between using the basic server install cd and jeos?
[18:33] <zul> jeos is optimized for vms
[18:37] <frith> if i created a lvm from two drives and the second fails, what will happen?
[18:42] <jmedina> frith: you mean al Volume Group made of 2 PV?
[18:43] <frith> yes
[18:43] <frith> i haven't really used lvm
[18:43] <jmedina> frith: the use it and trye that
[18:43] <jmedina> you can try it with filebased volumes
[18:44] <frith> saying that i don't know what is the best configuration to go with for my server
[18:44] <jmedina> lvm is only volume manager, if you want protection you need to setupo lvm over RAID
[18:45] <frith> i have one raid5 volume ~400gb and one mirrored pair 300gb
[18:45] <jmedina> frith: well, we dont know the purpose of your server
[18:45] <frith> me either :)
[18:45] <frith> i think i want to use kvm
[18:45] <jmedina> never used kvm only xen
[18:46] <frith> kvm seems to be the way to go
[18:46] <frith> i want to test out different stuff
[18:47] <frith> i guess i will forget about the 300gb for now
[18:48] <frith> i am not sure about its reliability
[18:50] <jmedina> frith: why?
[18:50] <jmedina> it is raid1, isnt it?
[18:51] <jmedina> we use sofware raid1 in most of my and customers servers
[18:58] <frith> jmedina, i rescued both disks from a blown disk array
[18:58] <frith> the 300gb drives that is
[18:58] <frith> i figured it out
[18:58] <frith> raid pair for home and the raid 4 volume for vm's
[18:59] <frith> now i need to think of a good domain name
[19:13] <gsalah_> hello, is the pptp vpn server should be the gateway for others servers ?
[19:18] <frith> hmm i thought opterons supported hardware virtualisation
[19:20] <jmedina> not all
[19:21] <frith> sigh
[19:21] <frith> i guess its not big deal
[19:21] <jmedina> only if you want to install windows
[19:22] <jmedina> with paravirt works well with opterons at least with xen
[19:22] <jmedina> we have about 30 vms running with paravirtualization in one server
[19:24] <frith> wow
[19:24] <frith> how many cores?
[19:25] <jmedina> 2 dobule xeon
[19:25] <frith> its funny, i can buy a 32gb server with 8 cores with 4tb for 2.5k
[19:27] <frith> are they all pretty much idle?
[19:28] <jmedina> 2.5K?
[19:28] <frith> £2500
[19:29] <lukehasnoname> oh haha
[19:29] <jmedina> pretty cheap, I remember 2 years I spent 5k for 8 cores, 4GB and 1TB
[19:29] <lukehasnoname> frith, I thought you meant $2500
[19:29] <frith> i don't know how much systems are in the states
[19:30] <Brucevdk> SSH question, is it possible to define either the use of public keys or passwords on a per account/user basis? E.g. a user designated "has key" should not be able to login with a passwords, temporary low-level accounts are allowed to login with a password. Non-designated accounts should not be able to connect over SSH.
[19:32] <frith> i should ebay my current servers and replace them with one machine
[19:32] <jmedina> Brucevdk: I think in the newests releases of openssh you can manage groups
[19:33] <frith> ssh has been able to do groups for ages
[19:33] <frith> allowgroups iirc
[19:34] <frith> or group allow
[19:35] <Brucevdk> That still wouldn't allow the finely grained permissions I was talking about though, would it?
[19:35] <jmedina> http://www.openssh.com/txt/release-5.1 I think it is match groups and match addresses
[19:35] <jmedina> frith: yeap they only use global configs, not per user
[19:42] <Brucevdk> Think I'll just drop this idea for now then, when I use `AllowGroups ssh` does Deny all other groups?
[19:43] <michalski> not nessecarily, you would just need to be part of the ssh group to be able to login
[19:43] <michalski> ,via ssh
[19:45] <AdrianN> hello can any1 help me if possible pls?
[19:46] <AdrianN> i have a server with the internet working on it... eth0 with a static ip adress, i have there 4 more networks cards each one with another ip adress all up working, eth0 has: <IP_ADDRESS>,eth2:<IP_ADDRESS>,eth3:<IP_ADDRESS>,eth4:<IP_ADDRESS>.
[19:46] <AdrianN> all are static ip's
[19:47] <AdrianN> after those 4 cards will be clients, how can i make the routes so i can give to the clients another class of IP's, like: 192.193.2.*
[19:58] <frith> how can i get the current speed of my cpu's ?
[19:59] <jmedina> cat /proc/cpuinfo
[20:00] <frith> but does that give the speed if they have throttled down?
[20:00] <frith> oh yes it does
[20:01] <frith> right time to get power management working
[20:02] <frith> powersaved ? is that the best thing to use?
[20:17] <frith> ah there we go :)
[20:22] <ScottK> leonel: Are you around.
[20:23] <Brucevdk> jmedina, and others: thanks for the help, I've decided to go with AllowGroups + PasswordAuthentication for now. If needed I'll try and see if more finely grained permissions are possible. Thanks again
[20:28] <jmedina> Brucevdk: you are welcome
[20:40] <nxvl> kirkland: just commented un update-motd
[20:40] <nxvl> kirkland: it has a minor issue i posted there everything you need
[20:44] <nxvl> brb
[20:52] <frith> is it wrong of me to arrange the disks in my rack so i can write words?
[21:28] <frith> ooo compiling a kernel is like watching pain dry
[22:04] <frith> hmmm, not very impressive, only slowed down my server from 2.2ghz to 1.8
[22:04] <frith> surely it can go down to 1ghz or something
[22:40] <slavik> any idea why the cups web interface would freeze when selecting make/model of the printer?
[22:41] <jmedina> slavik: have you check the logs?
[22:41] <slavik> Aug 20 17:37:55 upserv kernel: [11226.466619] audit(1219268273.160:13): type=1503 operation="inode_permission" requested_mask="a::" denied_mask="a::" name="/dev/tty" pid=8392 profile="/usr/sbin/cupsd" namespace="default"
[22:41] <jmedina> I mean cups logs
[22:42] <slavik> E [20/Aug/2008:16:31:54 -0400] CUPS-Add-Modify-Printer: Unauthorized
[22:42] <slavik> no idea why
[22:43] <slavik> when I select 'HP' in the make list, the web interfaces takes a while to respond (it just comes up with a blank page after that)
[22:43] <slavik> E [20/Aug/2008:16:31:16 -0400] PID 6902 (/usr/lib/cups/cgi-bin/admin.cgi) crashed on signal 9!
[22:43] <slavik> that also seems relavant
[22:44]  * jmedina loves kde printer interface
[22:44]  * slavik loves gnome printer interface
[22:44] <slavik> but this is a server install (no X)
[22:46] <jmedina> slavik: have you tried lpadmin?
[22:47] <slavik> hmm
[22:47] <slavik> I used it to add printers, but what I tell it the make is so that it uses the proper driver?
[22:48] <slavik> then again, the first time I tried to add a printer, it worked ...
[22:48] <slavik> should I try purging cups and reinstalling it?
[22:55] <slavik> it stops working when I click 'Continue' on the page to select the manufacturer (or upload the ppd file)


[12:06] <ubotu> New bug: #115331 in Ubuntu "TCP windows scaling = 1 makes it impossible to surf the web" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/115331
[12:10] <ubotu> New bug: #115333 in pidgin (universe) "[apport]  gaim crashed with SIGSEGV in free()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/115333
[12:10] <ubotu> New bug: #115335 in xen-meta (universe) "grfx goes crazy after loading ubuntu" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/115335
[12:15] <ubotu> New bug: #115336 in Ubuntu "[KDE: KDesktop > Get New Wallpapers]  Missing option to rate wallpapers" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/115336
[12:15] <ubotu> New bug: #115338 in Ubuntu "Impossible to add new sites in Get New Stuff dialog" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/115338
[12:20] <ubotu> New bug: #115334 in devmapper (main) "devmapper: new changes from Debian require merging" [Undecided,Fix committed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/115334
[12:20] <ubotu> New bug: #115337 in Ubuntu "Pressing up or back in Konqueror icon view scrolls to center of the view" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/115337
[12:26] <ubotu> New bug: #115339 in nautilus (main) "dmesg report:32.712000]  BUG: unable to handle kernel NULL pointer dereference at virtual address 00000000" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/115339
[12:26] <ubotu> New bug: #115340 in php5 (main) "missing php5.load" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/115340
[12:26] <ubotu> New bug: #115341 in Ubuntu "aMule tray icon is not transparent" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/115341
[12:30] <ubotu> New bug: #115342 in Ubuntu "Konqueror Access Keys cannot be disabled" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/115342
[12:30] <micahcowan>
[12:30] <micahcowan> Could someone look at bug 105539 for me?
[12:31] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 105539 in dash "can't preseed dash/sh to false" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/105539
[12:40] <Kmos> !info konqueror
[12:40] <ubotu> konqueror: KDE's advanced file manager, web browser and document viewer. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.6-0ubuntu20 (feisty), package size 1992 kB, installed size 5324 kB
[01:01] <ubotu> New bug: #115344 in ubiquity (main) "installer crashed" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/115344
[01:10] <ubotu> New bug: #115346 in Ubuntu "NO sound at all" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/115346
[01:36] <ubotu> New bug: #115347 in apport (main) "retracer needs to hint at MIME type text/plain" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/115347
[01:37] <bdmurray> hey look at today's bug stats
[01:37] <bdmurray> http://people.ubuntu-in.org/~carthik/bugstats/
[01:38] <Hobbsee> wow, nice!
[01:38] <Hobbsee> bdmurray: how's it taht low?
[01:39] <bdmurray> umm, I rejected a couple of bugs today
[01:39] <bdmurray> That might have something to do with the drop.
[01:40] <ajmitch> "a couple"?
[01:40] <Hobbsee> nice
[01:40] <ajmitch> about a hundred or so, it seems
[01:40] <Hobbsee> bdmurray: could we steal you for a focusing on kde bug triage time, or something?
[01:40] <Hobbsee> at some point?
[01:40] <Hobbsee> bah.  idea was there, execution is shot.
[01:41] <ubotu> New bug: #115348 in kmplayer (main) "[apport]  kxineplayer crashed with SIGSEGV in xine_gui_send_vo_data()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/115348
[01:41] <bdmurray> Hobbsee: I've been looking at kmplayer, kdelibs and kdebase recently
[01:42] <bdmurray> quite a few dups were consolidated
[01:42] <Hobbsee> nice
[01:42] <Hobbsee> i've been seeing that
[01:42] <Hobbsee> well, my inbox has
[01:43] <micahcowan> I rejected several between today and yesterday, as well; probably a little less than 10, but that's ~ 10% of the drop ^_^
[01:43] <bdmurray> doko: I've been looking at those to, but they are hard.
[01:43] <doko> bdmurray: I know ...
[01:44] <bdmurray> One thing I've started to do is take OOo bugs based on the component so ooo-calc for example
[01:44] <bdmurray> s/take/tag/ that is
[01:45] <ajmitch> doko: I think you'd need to pay him a lot :)
[01:45] <doko> bdmurray: nice, should we have tagging guidelines for OOo?
[01:45] <bdmurray> ajmitch: more cerveza
[01:45] <doko> ajmitch: paying only with beers =)
[01:46] <doko> bdmurray: deal!
[01:46] <ubotu> New bug: #115349 in debian-installer (main) "linux-server unpack error in ubuntu-server7.04 i386 " [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/115349
[01:46] <micahcowan> What would you do with a bug requesting that the package include a user's custom .Xresources example, for improved fonts? Bug 109417.
[01:46] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 109417 in emacs21 "Xresources for improved fonts and so new frames have same fonts as initial frame" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/109417
[01:47] <micahcowan> Oh, I also marked several bugs as "Fix Released", which also probably helped. :)
[01:49] <bdmurray> ajmitch: have you looked at bughelper at all?
[01:50] <ajmitch> bdmurray: I have, but not recently
[01:50] <bdmurray> it is quite handy for finding dupes
[01:50] <ajmitch> yep, if there's enough info
[01:51] <ajmitch> there's often not much apport info from mono apps, we need to fix that for gutsy
[01:51] <bdmurray> yeah, per package hooks seem useful
[01:52] <bdmurray> micahcowan: I think that should probably go upstream as we might not want to maintain it separately
[01:52] <ajmitch> I mostly know where to stick in the exception dumping for mono, at least
[01:54] <micahcowan> bdmurray, my hunch is that upstream won't want it either... I'm more-or-less looking for an appropriate way to close this bug out, as it's not a bug (though it would qualify for wishlist), and nobody is going to want to implement it AFAICT.
[01:55] <bdmurray> micahcowan: then redirecting them to the mailing list seems appropriate
[01:55] <bdmurray> the change defaults response
[01:56] <micahcowan> I'm having trouble parsing that last bit.
[01:57] <bdmurray> !responses
[01:57] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about responses - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:58] <bdmurray> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/Responses
[01:58] <bdmurray> "Thanks for your suggestion. However, the changes you are requesting aren't really a bug and require more discussion, which should be done on an appropriate mailing list or forum."
[01:59] <micahcowan> Thanks, missed that one.
[02:00] <Hobbsee> !response
[02:00] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about response - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:00] <Hobbsee> !response is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/Responses
[02:00] <ubotu> I'll remember that, Hobbsee
[02:00] <Hobbsee> !responses is <alias>response
[02:00] <Hobbsee> !responses is <alias> response
[02:00] <ubotu> But responses already means something else!
[02:00] <Hobbsee> !responses
[02:00] <micahcowan> !responses
[02:00] <ubotu> response is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/Responses
[02:00] <Hobbsee> excellent
[02:00] <micahcowan> :)
[02:00] <bdmurray> !graph
[02:00] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about graph - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:00] <Hobbsee> bdmurray: ^
[02:05] <ubotu> New bug: #115350 in systemtap (universe) "systemtap "hello world" hits error: overflowed buffers in get_sections" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/115350
[02:08] <bdmurray> !automatix
[02:08] <ubotu> Automatix2 is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[02:09] <bdmurray> !ubuntu+1
[02:09] <ubotu> Ubuntu 7.04 (Feisty Fawn) is the latest version of Ubuntu. Upgrading to Feisty: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FeistyUpgrades - Downloading: http://www.ubuntu.com/download - For BitTorrent downloads, see !Torrents
[02:10] <bdmurray> Hobbsee: I'm not sure ubotu will listen to me if I try to change a response
[02:10] <bdmurray> could you change ubuntu+1 ?
[02:10] <Hobbsee> bdmurray: no, it wont.  it has access control
[02:10] <Hobbsee> %addeditor bdmurray
[02:10] <Hobbsee> bdmurray: can you register with the bot, please?
[02:11] <Hobbsee> bdmurray: /msg ubotu %register bdmurray <password>
[02:11] <Hobbsee> it'll register to your hostmask, so you shouldnt need the password again
[02:12] <bdmurray> cool, I'll play test it later
[02:12] <bdmurray> gotta run to make happy hour. ;)
[02:13] <Hobbsee> :)
[02:13] <Hobbsee> %addeditor bdmurray
[02:13] <Hobbsee> bdmurray: you're still not registered.  poke me when you see me again
[02:15] <bdmurray> hrm? I messaged ubotu
[02:15] <Hobbsee> try %identify ?
[02:15] <Hobbsee> does it come up with who you are?
[02:15] <Hobbsee> it's still saying you're not registered
[02:19] <bdmurray> he ignores when I try to register
[02:19] <Hobbsee> wonder if you have to use %register in a query, not register
[02:19] <Hobbsee> it's a bit quirky.
[02:20] <ubotu> New bug: #115351 in firefox (main) "Total System Freeze - usually happens when using Firefox" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/115351
[02:21] <bdmurray> there seems to be no command register
[02:23] <Hobbsee> %register
[02:23] <bdmurray> right that too
[02:24] <shinyshiny> %whoami
[02:24] <ubotu> I don't recognize you.
[02:24] <bdmurray> okay, well really gotta run
[02:24] <Hobbsee> okay
[02:24] <bdmurray> thanks for helping
[02:27] <Hobbsee> %login
[02:31] <ubotu> New bug: #115352 in gimp (main) "[apport]  jpeg crashed with SIGSEGV in _XSetLastRequestRead()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/115352
[02:36] <ubotu> New bug: #115353 in pidgin (universe) "Gaim Accounts window - cannot resize Protocol column" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/115353
[02:45] <ubotu> New bug: #115354 in mysql-query-browser (universe) "[apport]  mysql-query-browser crashed with SIGSEGV in strncasecmp()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/115354
[02:55] <ubotu> New bug: #115355 in Ubuntu "gstream freeze in libgstreamer-plugins0.8-0.postinst" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/115355
[03:04] <micahcowan> bdmurray, have another look at bug 109417 :)
[03:04] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 109417 in emacs21 "Xresources for improved fonts and so new frames have same fonts as initial frame" [Undecided,Rejected]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/109417
[03:05] <ubotu> New bug: #115356 in gnome-app-install (main) "gnome-app-install search inconsistent wrt apt-cache search" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/115356
[04:05] <ubotu> New bug: #115357 in yelp (main) "synaptic has error, type deb is not known" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/115357
[04:21] <ubotu> New bug: #115359 in beryl-core (universe) "beryl crashes after may 17th updates in feisty" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/115359
[04:31] <ubotu> New bug: #115360 in xsane (main) "problem with snapscanE50 mabe to do with compro videomate t300" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/115360
[04:40] <ubotu> New bug: #115361 in skencil (universe) "[apport]  skencil.py crashed with SIGSEGV in free()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/115361
[05:01] <ubotu> New bug: #115362 in evolution (main) "Can't import VCF file into Evolution" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/115362
[05:01] <ubotu> New bug: #115363 in openoffice.org (main) "OOWriter does not remember saved items in Spellcheck." [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/115363
[05:35] <ubotu> New bug: #115365 in Ubuntu "[needs-packaging]  viking" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/115365
[05:35] <ubotu> New bug: #115366 in Ubuntu "Opera crashed" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/115366
[06:05] <ubotu> New bug: #115368 in compiz (main) "[apport]  compiz.real crashed with SIGSEGV in savageGetLock()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/115368
[06:05] <ubotu> New bug: #115369 in avahi (main) "[apport]  avahi-discover crashed with DBusException in __call__()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/115369
[06:26] <ubotu> New bug: #115370 in beagle (main) "beagle don't allow to add additional paths for indexing" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/115370
[06:31] <ubotu> New bug: #115371 in totem (main) "the dvd  menu screen option is no working whit the mouse" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/115371
[06:50] <ubotu> New bug: #115372 in packagesearch (universe) "[apport]  packagesearch crashed with SIGSEGV in pkgDepCache::Init()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/115372
[06:55] <ubotu> New bug: #115373 in qgo (universe) "qgo missing documentation" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/115373
[06:55] <ubotu> New bug: #115374 in gnome-terminal (main) "qtparted authentication failed in terminal error 144" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/115374
[07:00] <ubotu> New bug: #115375 in Ubuntu "Network Manager" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/115375
[07:35] <ubotu> New bug: #115377 in Ubuntu "No Sound in Ubuntu 7.04" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/115377
[07:45] <ubotu> New bug: #115379 in control-center (main) "[apport]  gnome-settings-daemon crashed with SIGSEGV" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/115379
[07:50] <ubotu> New bug: #115380 in cinepaint (universe) "[apport]  clothify.py crashed with ImportError in <module>()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/115380
[07:51] <dholbach> good morning
[08:16] <ubotu> New bug: #115381 in blogtk (universe) "[apport]  BloGTK.py crashed with ImportError in ?()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/115381
[08:26] <ubotu> New bug: #115382 in firefox (main) "[apport]  firefox-bin crashed with SIGSEGV in __kernel_vsyscall()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/115382
[08:30] <ubotu> New bug: #115383 in tvtime (universe) "[apport]  tvtime crashed with SIGSEGV" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/115383
[08:35] <ubotu> New bug: #115384 in compiz (main) "[apport]  compiz.real crashed with SIGSEGV in savageGetLock()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/115384
[08:40] <ubotu> New bug: #115385 in youtranslate (universe) "easier drag-and-drop" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/115385
[08:45] <ubotu> New bug: #115386 in linux-source-2.6.20 (main) "centrino duo sensors need a kernel patch" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/115386
[08:50] <ubotu> New bug: #115387 in kde-guidance (main) "[apport]  displayconfig-restore.py crashed with SIGSEGV in XRRGetScreenInfo()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/115387
[06:26] <siretart> pochu: I can confirm it doesn't work with python 2.4
[06:29] <pochu> siretart: can you confirm it does with 2.5?
[06:29] <pochu> s/it/whether it/g
[06:31] <siretart> pochu: I cannot easily test it with python2.5 here on this machine, I'm trying now on a feisty machine
[06:31] <siretart> pochu: to reproduce, try running bughelper in a debian etch or lenny chroot
[06:32] <pochu> I don't have chroots, sorry :/
[06:33] <pochu> I can in a pbuilder, though :)
[06:33] <pochu> hmm, it's sid
[06:34] <siretart> sid should do as well
[06:34] <siretart> ok, works for me in a feisty chroot. it doesn't on debian
[06:34] <pochu> siretart: file a bug then :)
[06:35] <ubotu> New bug: #115479 in Ubuntu "BBC News ticker scroll slow and not smooth" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/115479
[06:39] <dholbach> siretart: is urllib2 not in python2.4?
[06:40] <pochu> >>> import urllib2
[06:40] <pochu> >>>
[06:40] <pochu> I'd say it's there :)
[06:46] <ubotu> New bug: #115480 in hwdb-client (main) "hardware detection don't sent report..." [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/115480
[06:55] <ubotu> New bug: #115482 in nautilus (main) "Nautilus doesn't cope with tiny fonts, and goes into SIGSEGV loop" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/115482
[07:00] <ubotu> New bug: #115303 in Ubuntu "vmware-server install link error" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/115303
[07:01] <ubotu> New bug: #115484 in thunderbird (main) "Create contact screen to large for display" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/115484
[07:01] <ubotu> New bug: #115485 in scim (main) "No idea -- didn't even launch scim" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/115485
[07:15] <ubotu> New bug: #115486 in Ubuntu "[apport]  hwdb-kde crashed with UnicodeEncodeError in assemble()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/115486
[07:31] <ubotu> New bug: #115487 in davfs2 (universe) "Feisty cannot list dav2 mounted directory content" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/115487
[07:31] <ubotu> New bug: #115488 in rss-glx (main) "[apport]  cyclone crashed with SIGSEGV in __libc_start_main()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/115488
[07:55] <ubotu> New bug: #115489 in pitivi (universe) "[apport]  pitivi crashed with SIGSEGV" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/115489
[07:55] <ubotu> New bug: #115490 in qpxtool (universe) "[apport]  qpxtool crashed with SIGSEGV" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/115490
[08:06] <ubotu> New bug: #115492 in gedit (main) "gedit: Fatal IO error 104 (Connection reset by peer) on X server :0.0." [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/115492
[08:10] <ubotu> New bug: #115493 in network-manager (main) "NetworkManager ignores the Auto flag in the /etc/network/interfaces file." [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/115493