[03:41] <Guest64541> can someone tell me what the add activities button is about
[05:20] <me> live dvd
[05:21] <Guest35587> checking disk for defects i error, on re boot no errors. What happened
[05:25] <Guest35587> I left the original dvd open to use the remaining space later - was this the cause
[05:25] <Guest35587> or did the check repir the devd-r
[05:25] <Guest35587> Got a few other questions:
[06:25] <neoiz> i lost the sound on my computer, what can i do to "reset" it? (without rebooting the computer)
[07:11] <donix> hello
[07:12] <donix> im having truoble setting up cisco e2500 n600 wifi router
[07:13] <donix> i can get <IP_ADDRESS> to load but it asks me to download windows soiftware
[08:27] <lordievader> Good morning.
[09:05] <byte> moin
[09:44] <Ab3L> hi. i'm trying to connect my pc to the router through eth0 and avoid wlan0 (don't know why, the router is refusing high speed and large bandwidth with wlan).
[09:45] <Ab3L> what i would like to do is to avoid a dynamic dhcp ip and to set the same static ip that i had with my wlan0.
[09:46] <Ab3L> the problem is that when i try to give the data, i cannot reach internet anymore (only connection pc-router is possible).
[09:48] <Ab3L> i should make something wrong, or i'm forgetting something. could someone take my hand and make me walking right to the solution as one can do with a 5y.o. child ? thank you in advance.
[09:49] <lordievader> Ab3L: Could you pastebin the output of "ip a s" and "ip route"?
[09:51] <Ab3L> thank you lordievader: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8006442/
[09:55] <Ab3L> do you see, i currently have <IP_ADDRESS>, and would like to have ...12 (the range of dhcp auto ip from the router starts from 33 to 64 or something like that).
[09:56] <lordievader> Ab3L: Have you set that in /etc/network/interfaces?
[09:57] <Ab3L> now it is so: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8006479/
[09:58] <Ab3L> i've deleted everything because with my home made settings i couldn't reach internet :D
[10:00] <lordievader> Ab3L: If you want a static interface in there you would have to define it. http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/setting-up-an-network-interfaces-file/
[10:02] <Ab3L> lordievader: not in the network manager?
[10:04] <lordievader> Ab3L: If you want more flexibility you could do it in the network manager, personally I do not really like the NM for static interfaces.
[10:05] <Ab3L> thx
[10:30] <demoneye> d
[10:30] <demoneye> how to install flash ?
[10:30] <demoneye> i cant locate the package in the "software center"
[10:43] <kidx> Does any on know when KDE5 will e ready for Kubuntu?
[10:47] <kidx> Any one know about KDE5
[10:47] <kidx> has any one tried it here?
[10:58] <BluesKaj> 'Morning all
[11:02] <Mamarok> kidx: there is no such thing as KDE5
[11:09] <Ab3L> lordievader: it seems it doesn't work. if i put those settings in /etc/network/interfaces eth0 is no more reachable
[11:10] <Ab3L> lordievader: i mean, i cannot use eth0 anymore
[11:12] <lordievader> Ab3L: Please pastebin your /etc/network/interfaces file.
[11:15] <BluesKaj> Ab3L, /etc/resolvconf/resolv.conf.d/base overwrites the /etc/resolv.conf file so any settings you need in resolv.conf have to be enterd in /etc/resolvconf/resolv.conf.d/base. That's why your interfaces file isn't connecting eth0
[11:16] <BluesKaj> Ab3L, and ignore the warning in /etc/resolvconf/resolv.conf.d/base
[11:16] <Ab3L> ok, BluesKaj. i'll give a look there too.
[11:17] <Ab3L> btw, this is what i put in /etc/network/interfaces: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8006991/   . then i've commented broadcast and network. but eth0 was unreachable.
[11:19] <lordievader> Ab3L: What's the output of are you able to ping <IP_ADDRESS>?
[11:21] <Ab3L> lordievader: seems everything is ok: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8007007/
[11:22] <kidx> ok plasma 5
[11:22] <kidx> or is plasma 5 still buggy?
[11:22] <Ab3L> BluesKaj: /etc/resolvconf/resolv.conf.d/base is empty
[11:22] <lordievader> Ab3L: So it is the DNS, follow BluesKaj's advice.
[11:23] <Ab3L> BluesKaj: and this is /etc/resolv.conf: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8007025/
[11:25] <Ab3L> next step ?
[11:25] <lordievader> Ab3L: You want to add "<IP_ADDRESS>" as your DNS.
[11:27] <BluesKaj> Ab3L, so you aren't using network manager I assume ?
[11:29] <lordievader> BluesKaj: No.
[11:30] <Ab3L> you're loosing me. sorry. i'd like to have static ip <IP_ADDRESS>. then have i to edit /etc/network/interfaces like in http://paste.ubuntu.com/8006991/ right? but so i cannot use eth0 anymore. where should i put DNS ?
[11:31] <Ab3L> BluesKaj: i tried to set static ip through network manager. but i think i'm doing something wrong and have no access to internet
[11:31] <lordievader> Ab3L: Yes that is correct, all you need to do is add the dns server either to that file or to /etc/resolvconf/resolv.conf.d/head
[11:32] <BluesKaj> ok , good ...perhaps the /etc/resolvconf/resolv.conf.d/base file is no longer in use , it's been a while since I used static IP without network manager. I switched back to NM about a yr ago when I started using openvpn
[11:33] <Ab3L> BluesKaj: are you able to set static ip in NM?
[11:33] <lordievader> Ab3L: Add "dns-nameservers <IP_ADDRESS>" to your /etc/network/interfaces file, it is the nicest approach.
[11:33] <BluesKaj> no
[11:35] <BluesKaj> lordievader, I tried adding the the nameservbers to the network interfaces , but itdidn't worj in my setup , I had to add it to/etc/resolvconf/resolv.conf.d/base or head
[11:35]  * BluesKaj searches for his glasses
[11:36] <lordievader> BluesKaj: It might be that you where missing a package.
[11:37] <lordievader> The resolvconf package needs to be installed.
[11:37] <BluesKaj> lordievader, adding the nameservers to the interfaces file seems more direct and efficient tho
[11:37] <lordievader> BluesKaj: It is nicer as you can have different dns's per interface. Instead of a global dns.
[11:38] <Ab3L> look. this is the output of my ifconfig: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8007115/
[11:39] <Ab3L> and this that of /etc/network/interfaces: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8007126/
[11:40] <Ab3L> notice, i've commented broadcast, because i think this is optional, isn't it?
[11:41] <lordievader> Ab3L: Not if you want to be able to generate broadcast traffic.
[11:42] <lordievader> Ab3L: We've already established that it is a DNS problem, no need to post ifconfig details ;)
[11:42] <lordievader> Ab3L: After you've added the dns-nameserver line have you restarted the interface?
[11:43] <Ab3L> lordievader: i posted it because so it is easier to check if i put the right ip numbers.
[11:44] <sasha_> добрый день.
[11:44] <Ab3L> lordievader: i don't know whether or not i want broadcast traffic.
[11:45] <Ab3L> lordievader: i think the ip i put there should be the right one, because i got it from ifconfig. in case i need broadcast traffic i can uncomment it, right?
[11:45] <lordievader> !ru | sasha_
[11:46] <lordievader> Ab3L: Jup.
[11:47] <Ab3L> ok. i've uncommented broadcast and let's try with broadcast on. now i think that i've to restart the service so that changes are taken into account, right?
[11:47] <BluesKaj> Ab3L, yes
[11:48] <lordievader> Ab3L: For the moment, the broadcast settings do not matter. What does matter however are the dns settings.
[11:48] <Ab3L> i've to give something like : sudo service networking stop, and then start.
[11:49] <Ab3L> meanwhile i loose the line... am i right?
[11:49] <BluesKaj> restart]
[11:49] <Ab3L> sudo service networking restart ?
[11:50]  * Ab3L is waiting for a Yes or No
[11:50] <BluesKaj> Ab3L, it used to be, sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
[11:51] <BluesKaj> but you might be right
[11:51] <Ab3L> BluesKaj: ok. it should be the same. i'm trying your line first.
[11:52] <Ab3L> mmmh.... with "sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart" i got no message in my terminal.
[11:53] <lordievader> BluesKaj: Those two are equivalent.
[11:53] <Ab3L> my ip still ends by 43
[11:53] <lordievader> Ab3L: Was NM running when you started to config this?
[11:54] <Ab3L> lordievader: yes
[11:54] <BluesKaj> lordievader, I used to get a warning about init.d
[11:54] <lordievader> Ab3L: Then the NM has claimed the device. Easiest would be to simply reboot.
[11:54] <Ab3L> BluesKaj: me too
[11:54] <lordievader> BluesKaj: It is not the prefered way, but it should still work.
[11:55] <Ab3L> lordievader: ok. i'll reboot the system.
[11:57] <BluesKaj> lordievader, I removed NM when using static IP so it wouldn 't overwrite resolv.conf ...suppose I could have disabled it
[12:00] <lordievader> BluesKaj: NM doesn't use devices specified in /etc/network/interfaces
[12:01] <BluesKaj> but i have to admit NM has improved since yrs ago when I dropped it in favour of network interfaces and resolv.conf
[12:02] <BluesKaj> lordievader, well it still overwrites the resolv.conf file afaik]
[12:10] <Ab3L> BluesKaj: lordievader: it was unsuccessful. with those settings i cannot reach the router.
[12:13] <Ab3L> here is what i have after reboot: http://wstaw.org/m/2014/08/10/NM.png
[12:15] <Ab3L> do you see NM on the top right ? no interface available.
[12:18] <BluesKaj> Ab3L, check this out , it's a bit dated so substitute /etc/resolv.conf settings to /etc/resolvconf/resolv.conf.d/head , http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/howto-ubuntu-linux-convert-dhcp-network-configuration-to-static-ip-configuration.html
[12:21] <Ab3L> BluesKaj: but that file contains no useful information. i've nothing to erase.
[12:23] <BluesKaj> your dns nameserver settings should be entered in /etc/resolvconf/resolv.conf.d/head
[12:26] <lordievader> Ab3L: That about the NM not showing any interface is correct. NM no longer manages them.
[12:26] <lordievader> Ab3L: Was more interested in the "ip a s" output at that stage.
[12:26] <BluesKaj> Ab3L, like so http://paste.kde.org/p8eg4lfzy
[12:27] <BluesKaj> just substitute your numbers
[12:28] <Ab3L> lordievader: here ifconfig, ip a s, and ip route, after reboot
[12:29] <Ab3L> BluesKaj: is that your /etc/resolvconf/resolv.conf.d/head ?
[12:30] <BluesKaj> it was , but i no longer use it, it's just acopy since i switched to NM
[12:31] <Ab3L> BluesKaj: and you never set a static ip in NM ?
[12:31] <BluesKaj> no
[12:31] <BluesKaj> I removed NM
[12:32] <BluesKaj> but one can jusrt disable NM if needed
[12:33] <BluesKaj> at the time NM kept re-enabling itself so i just removed it...that was quite a few yrs ago
[12:37] <BluesKaj> it's too complicated to use a vpn service without NM , so I use it now
[12:46] <lordievader> Ab3L: Err, where?
[12:55] <Ab3L> i'm breaking my head against the wall...
[13:00] <Ab3L> lordievader: do you remember what is the name of that application that limits the bandwidth? it is something like hot dog....
[13:00] <lordievader> Ab3L: ? I have no idea what you are talking about... Did you succeed in setting a static ip?
[13:01] <Ab3L> lordievader: no. i didn't. i'm trying to make the void in my head, so maybe after i'll have some idea on how to set that damned static ip.
[13:06] <lordievader> Ab3L: Could you pastebin the output of "ip a s" and "ip route" after you've enabled a static ip?
[13:07] <Ab3L> http://paste.ubuntu.com/8007740
[13:07] <Ab3L> some output...
[13:08] <Ab3L> ip a s, ip route, ifconfig
[13:11] <lordievader> Ab3L: This is after a reboot with the static ip set up?
[13:11] <Ab3L> lordievader: yes, and you can see at line 29? my static ip seems to have been accepted. but if you see at the picture i sent before, i've no connection available.
[13:12] <Ab3L> http://wstaw.org/m/2014/08/10/NM.png
[13:18] <lordievader> Ab3L: As I've told you before, that is NM, NM doesn't do anything anymore that is correct.
[13:18] <lordievader> Ab3L: Are you able to ping your router?
[13:19] <Ab3L> didn't try.
[13:20] <Ab3L> as i saw NM showed no connection, i saved the output i've pastebinned, commented the lines in interfaces and reboot again
[13:20] <Ab3L> i retry
[13:20] <Ab3L> wait for me
[13:27] <Ab3L> as i'm chatting... i'm online
[13:28] <Ab3L> i'm so sorry, lordievader
[13:28] <Ab3L> but nm was confusing me
[13:30] <lordievader> Ab3L: ;)
[13:37] <BluesKaj> now I'm confused, why doesn't he just disable NM it's interfering with his resolv.conf settings \
[13:38] <lordievader> BluesKaj: It doesn't ;)
[13:39] <BluesKaj> well seems to me it's mucking things up
[13:39] <lordievader> BluesKaj: He was simply confused, NM no longer showed any interfaces and Ab3L thought this meant it didn't work.
[13:39] <lordievader> BluesKaj: Everything works now...
[13:41] <BluesKaj> I was looking at controlling openvpn from the interfaces and resolv.conf files , but it was too much trouble, NM does the job nicely now
[13:41] <BluesKaj> it's much improved from a few yrs ago
[14:05] <mparillo> Whenever I install Kubuntu to a VM, I simply select Guided - Use entire [virtual] disk. If I want to install 14.10 and 14.04.1 and dual-boot, which should I select?
[14:08] <BluesKaj> mparillo, do that with both OSs on the virtual partitions afaik
[14:09] <lordievader> mparillo, BluesKaj: That is the easiest/cleanest.
[14:10] <mparillo> Thank you BluesKaj and lordievader. Virtual Partitions = LVM?
[14:10] <lordievader> mparillo: For example.
[14:11] <BluesKaj> it's not really a dual boot, it's 2 guest OSs
[14:14] <mparillo> TY, and I already have used guest OSs. I guess I am looking at partitioning my disk, and at boot time selecting one release or the other.
[14:15] <lordievader> mparillo: Real or virtual?
[14:16] <mparillo> I think real. I have 250 GB, which should be plenty big for separate instances.
[14:16] <mparillo> I do not have much user data.
[14:18] <BluesKaj> mparillo, yes, real is my preference altho VMs have their place
[14:19] <lordievader> mparillo: The way I do multi-boot is by having one /home and a logical volume for each os.
[14:21] <mparillo> Thank you. And the way to use logical volumes is to pick Guided - use entire disk and set up LVM?
[14:21] <lordievader> mparillo: No that will format the whole drive.
[14:22] <kdeuser56> ssareen: with kubuntu 14.04 you can be sure it works and the kde version is not too outdated
[14:22] <lordievader> mparillo: What is your current situation and what do you want to do?
[14:23] <ssareen> Could you suggest a distribution in which kdevelop works fine
[14:23] <ssareen> And installs without hussle
[14:23] <lordievader> ssareen: kdeuser56 just did, Kubuntu Trusty.
[14:23] <kdeuser56> ssareen: kubuntu ;-) utopic is the unreleased version, not stable yet, so you have to expect rough edges, though most of the time it works great
[14:24] <ssareen> Okay
[14:24] <kdeuser56> ssareen: http://se.cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/releases/14.04/release/ download the 14.04.1 version
[14:24] <mparillo> I would like to completely blow away my disk. I would like to install 14.10. But if I would like the option of installing the 14.10 Plasma Next version also. Then choose which to boot at boot time. No need to share data between them (everything I have fits within dropbox).
[14:25] <kdeuser56> mparillo: where is the problem? create two partitions on one install regular 14.10 on the other partition the plasma next version
[14:25] <lordievader> mparillo: You have absolutely no valuable data on the disk?
[14:26] <lordievader> mparillo: If so, first time round use  "guided - use entire disk and lvm", second time round you'll have to use the mini iso as custom lvm setups are too hard for ubiquity.
[14:27] <mparillo> lordievader: No valuable data.
[14:27] <tsimpson> you can't do it from the manual partition setup?
[14:28] <mparillo> I have never done anything other than Guided - Use entire [virtual] disk.
[14:29] <mparillo> So I could use the entire disk, and then shrink it when I want to dual boot, but I have never tried that also.
[14:33] <lordievader> tsimpson: The manual partition setup has trouble with lvm volumes for as far as I'm aware.
[14:35] <BluesKaj> mparillo, check this out, http://askubuntu.com/questions/343268/how-to-use-manual-partitioning-during-installation
[14:39] <mparillo> Thank you all.
[15:21] <skinux> Trying to run a bin file, but it's saying permission denied, that is after setting it to executable.
[15:23] <BluesKaj> skinux, using sudo ?
[15:23] <skinux> Yes.
[15:24] <tsimpson> is it maybe a 32bit binary and you're on 64bit (or vice versa)?
[15:24] <tsimpson> check what "file /path/to/bin" says
[15:24] <skinux> It's a 64bit binary and I'm on 64bit
[15:24] <BluesKaj> ok, what's the commans sudo path/to/file/./file.bin ?
[15:24] <skinux> It says 'data'
[15:25] <BluesKaj> err command
[15:25] <skinux> ??
[15:25] <tsimpson> seems like it's not any kind of file type the system recognizes
[15:25] <skinux> That must mean downloaded was corrupted.
[15:26] <tsimpson> check if there's a md5sum or sha1sum of the download you can check against
[15:26] <tsimpson> if not then try downloading again
[15:35] <skinux> I don't see either of those listed. And downloading again didn't help either.
[15:35] <skinux> I'm trying to download JIRA for x64 Linux.
[17:42] <Walex> skinux: if you are downloading JAR files they are ZIP files and carry their own checksums
[17:48] <jaapio> I have a problem that some jpg images are shown with the wrong colors. Switching to an other user gives a normal view of these images. So I think it must be some setting in my account?
[17:59] <Walex> jaapio: that's extremely unlikely
[18:00] <Walex> jaapio: also your report is amazingly vague. Which program? How "wrong" are the colours?
[18:01] <jaapio> Walex: all application. for example http://ic.tweakimg.net/ext/i/1404376942.png this is pink on my screen
[18:01] <jaapio> but when I switch to an other user account it's black
[18:02] <lordievader> jaapio: Have you made changes to the gamma settings or other video related settings?
[18:02] <jaapio> lordievader: not that I'm aware of
[18:03] <Walex> jaapio: note that is a PNG.
[18:03] <Walex> jaapio: also note on that my system that box is neither pink nor black, it is sort of fdark goldenrod
[18:04] <lordievader> Same here ;)
[18:04] <Walex> jaapio: it is more likely that your browser or your X windows server is in a corrupted state.
[18:04] <lordievader> jaapio: Is your monitor connected through VGA?
[18:04] <jaapio> lordievader: no dvi.
[18:05] <jaapio> Walex: sounds like a reboot should solve this. Which is not the case?
[18:05] <Walex> jaapio: try to download that image and look at it with something like 'gwenview'
[18:06] <Walex> jaapio: cd /tmp; wget http://ic.tweakimg.net/ext/i/1404376942.png; gwenview<PHONE_NUMBER>.png
[18:06] <jaapio> ok, looks gold like
[18:06] <Walex> jaapio: then try another browser...
[18:07] <Walex> try another browser and this may shiow whether it is a browser issue or an X issue
[18:08] <jaapio> Walex: rekonq looks ok. Firefox is pink
[18:08] <Walex> jaapio: I have seen that happen either with buggy X drivers or with broken HW GPUs.
[18:08] <Dragnslcr> Looks gold to me in Firefox
[18:08] <Walex> jaapio: but it could be a bug in Firefox for example.
[18:08] <Dragnslcr> Same in Chromium
[18:09] <Walex> jaapio: how does this look like: http://html-color-codes.com/
[18:11] <jaapio> Walex: looks ok, checked it with my android phone
[18:12] <Walex> jaapio: most likely situation there is something wrong with Firefox, but it could be something wrong with the specific calls that Firefox uses to display images
[18:12] <jaapio> If it is a bug in firefox it doesn't explain why also my raw photos look like they have a pink overlay
[18:12] <lordievader> I'd earlier say it is a buggy driver.
[18:12] <lordievader> jaapio: What graphics card + driver do you use?
[18:13] <Walex> jaapio: however, if the color table renders right, that means that probably Firefox renders color right, but somehow decodes or displays compressed images wrong.
[18:14] <jaapio> lordievader: an intel onboard chipset  (intel hd graphics 2000/3000)
[18:14] <jaapio> lordievader: this board http://www.asrock.com/mb/Intel/H61DES3/
[18:16] <Walex> jaapio: I'd also look at 'less less +G /var/log/Xorg.0.log' and 'dmesg | less +G' to see if there are any errors from X or the X driver
[18:16] <Walex> jaapio: how to look at the photos that have a "pink overlay"
[18:17] <jaapio> Walex: using digikam
[18:17] <Walex> jaapio: weird. Same using Gwenview?
[18:19] <jaapio> he, that's strange. Now they look ok. But also in digikam :-S sorry for that one.
[18:22] <jaapio> Walex: in the ubuntu channel they told me to execute "gconftool-2 --unset /desktop/gnome/interface/gtk_color_scheme" but since I'm running kde I though it would have any effect.
[18:22] <jaapio> Just tried it. And it looks like it helped?
[18:23] <valorie> firefox uses gtk
[18:24] <jaapio> thanks for everyone's help
[18:25] <jaapio> valorie: which is a gnome thing?
[18:26] <valorie> gtk is the toolkit that gnome uses
[18:26] <valorie> so it's the other way around
[18:26] <Walex> jaapio: color schemes apply to the window GUI elements like menus, not to the displayed content.
[18:27] <jaapio> so it must be something else.
[18:27] <Walex> jaapio: so that command should not have influenced the content.
[18:27] <Walex> jaapio: it may be a rather weird bug in Firefox triggered perhaps by some plugin like Flash.
[18:28] <Walex> jaapio: try to start a new Firefox instance with a new profile.
[18:28] <jaapio> Walex: I just did that. which solved the issue
[18:29] <jaapio> so thanks again
[18:30] <Walex> jaapio: but it is strnage that it happens with Firefox in two different user accounts that therefore don't share profiles...
[18:30] <Walex> jaapio: so it might be driver bugs after all
[18:32] <jaapio> If this happens again I will try to find it. But since the issues are gone it will be hard to find anything. I could have a look in the logs if you are interested
[19:44] <TBotNik> All; Not getting any answers on WP channel, all must be asleep!  Wondering if anyone here can help? Had to move a WP installed in test dir to main dir and will not login, giving DB errors at main page!  What is fix for this? DB user/pwd combo has not changed so guessing is a "Salt" issue.  Still pointed to the same DB. Need to reset all like fresh install!
[20:21] <floown> hello, what's the nom of the plasmoid to configure the network in KDE ?
[20:21] <floown> * the name
[21:50] <Walex> floown: does one even exist?
[21:50] <Walex> floown: I hope not :-)
[21:51] <floown> Walex: a windows ask me always the password for my "wifi"
[21:53] <floown> I suppose, if I reinstall the plasmoid, the next time the windows ask me the password, it retain it
[22:01] <Walex> floown: that is not necesarily a plasmoid
[22:01] <Walex> floown: it is likely to be the KDE interface to NetworkManager
[22:03] <Walex> floown: it could be called "plasma-widget-networkmanagement"
[22:04] <Walex> floown: unless you are using WICD instead of NetworkManager. Anyhow the Ubuntu Wiki has some pages on both
[22:04] <floown> Walex: it's a transitional package only, it is not installed
[22:05] <Walex> floown: on my Kubuntu that takes 1.4MB...
[22:06] <Walex> but I have 12.04 and I guess you have 14.04 where indeed it is a metapackage
[22:09] <Walex> floown: I looked at the reverse dependencies of 'network-manager' under 14.04 and there is nothing plausible there
[22:09] <Walex> floown: ah no I missed 'plasma-nm'
[22:10] <Walex> I am sorry to say that is the thing you are probably looking for. It should not exist... :-)
[22:31] <MichaelP> Plasma 5.1 sure has improved
[23:06] <calwig> K14.04 USB/Live 1.07Gb runs then Welcome screen appears, then once Try Kubuntu is selected, window blanks, turns off without knowing whether it is installing or just stalled
[23:10] <calwig> How does one fix or detect what may be wrong
[23:12] <floown> Walex: thanks, indeed it was plasma-nm ;)
[23:29] <LedM> Hello, i have a live kubuntu, but i am not getting to connect on a restricted proxy with firewall, what i am doing wrong?
[23:30] <BugleGold> Hello, i have a live kubuntu, but i am not getting to connect on a restricted proxy with firewall, what i am doing wrong?
[23:31] <BugleGold> 219 people here! i will wait only 29 minutes to here at least "i don't know" THANX!   X(
[23:34] <BugleGold> ONE IS WORST THAN OTHER! GODS AND BEASTS! HAHAHA! I AM WAITING REPLY!


[07:16] <czajkowski> jono: go to bed!
[07:17] <czajkowski> aloha
[07:17] <jono> czajkowski, hey!
[07:17] <jono> I will do soon :-)
[07:17] <jono> wrapping some bits up
[07:17] <czajkowski> bunring the candles at both ends! :)
[07:17] <czajkowski> looneybin
[07:18] <czajkowski> there was a houseparty above us that woke me upa t 4am am awake since then it's going to be a long day
[08:01] <dholbach> good morning
[08:01] <pleia2> g'day dholbach
[08:02] <dholbach> hey pleia2
[08:03] <alourie> good morning
[08:27] <czajkowski> pleia2 cant sleep?
[08:30]  * jussi waves to the channel
[08:30] <czajkowski> morning jussi
[08:31] <jussi> hows things czajkowski? hows hte back going?
[08:31] <czajkowski> grand due back op late jan early feb i think
[08:31] <czajkowski> as long as it doesnt clash with fosdem
[08:32] <czajkowski> speaking at an oss conf in april in scotland
[08:32] <czajkowski> jussi all set for baby ?
[08:34] <pleia2> czajkowski: sleep is complicated lately :)
[08:34] <czajkowski> i know the feeling :(
[08:37] <dholbach> jcastro, you updated the UDW and the UOW events
[08:37] <dholbach> jcastro, things look a bit broken now (only 3 days, events duplicated)
[08:37] <dholbach> I'm not sure I understand what's going on
[08:38] <jussi> czajkowski: yep, all set :) quite excited about it all tbh
[08:39] <pleia2> jussi: yay :)
[08:39] <pleia2> about a month to go?
[08:39] <jussi> pleia2: yep - 6th jan :D
[08:39] <pleia2> :D
[08:41] <jussi> its really quite funny if it comes on the due date - thats our engagement day
[08:42] <czajkowski> jussi: aww
[08:42] <jussi> we both cracked up laughing when the doctor told us :D
[08:54] <czajkowski> interesting site http://www.ubuntuvibes.com/
[08:59] <jussi> anyone know how to get outlook style calendars to an app in ubuntu using gcal? ie. I want people listed next to each other - like this: http://itadmin.creative.auckland.ac.nz/faq/software/microsoft/outlooksharing/11-sharedCalendarInPlace.jpg
[09:00] <jussi> czajkowski: yes, interesting stuff there
[09:12] <bkerensa> =/
[09:12] <bkerensa> 7:00am for the Ask Mark session
[09:13] <jussi> bkerensa: youll have to go to bed late then....
[09:13] <jussi> :P
[09:13] <bkerensa> jussi: Well considering it is 1:13am right now... I would likely have to start drinking Peets coffee right now and cross my fingers that I did not fall asleep until after 7am
[09:13] <bkerensa> heh
[09:14] <pleia2> power naps!
[09:14] <pangolin> ^
[09:14] <bkerensa> pleia2: :D Are you going to be there :D
[09:14] <jussi> pleia2: thats what you are doing, right?
[09:14] <jussi> :D
[09:15] <bkerensa> Maybe if I put a note on my whiteboard asking my fiancee to wake me up abruptly :D
[09:16] <pangolin> Honey! Please wake me up before you leave for work, there is an argument on the internet I want to read. Love ya!!!
[09:16] <pleia2> bkerensa: doubtful, Ask Mark sessions are fun to watch the first time because it's such a zoo, but I'm over it ;)
[09:18] <jussi> pleia2: When is Ubuntu going to release a phone, I want to buy one. Why wont ubuntu use gnome shell. :P
[09:18]  * jussi hugs pleia2
[09:18] <bkerensa> :D
[09:19] <pleia2> lol
[09:19]  * pleia2 hugs
[09:20] <jussi> you know, this sales lark is hard work... :/ Takes organisation... :)
[09:21] <pleia2> ok, time to put away the computer for the evening, night all
[09:22] <bkerensa> gnight pleia2 :)
[09:23] <czajkowski> pleia2: nn
[09:33] <bkerensa> Time to go count sheep gnight
[10:40] <daker> hello jcastro
[10:41] <jussi> daker: again, his middle of night :/
[10:41] <pangolin> when is this ask mark thingy?
[10:41] <pangolin> how much time till it starts?
[10:41] <jussi> pangolin: never, you are banned! :P
[10:42] <pangolin> but I have a ubuntu tattoo. I can'tr be banned
[10:42] <pangolin> -r
[10:42] <daker> jussi, LoL
[10:43] <pangolin> daker: careful, he is being a meany
[13:00] <dholbach> huats_, regarding the call today: I don't really have anything new to report - I got busy with lots of other stuff :-/
[13:09] <dholbach> huats_, if you don't have anything, I guess we can skip it
[13:15] <huats_> dholbach: oh I wanted to ask you the same:)
[13:15] <huats_> so let's postpone it
[13:15] <huats_> next week
[13:15] <huats_> but let's have a meeting for sure next week
[13:16] <dholbach> sure
[13:16] <dholbach> thanks huats_
[13:18] <huats_> thanks dholbach !
[13:19] <Tm_T> hi all
[13:20] <snap-l> Good $LOCALTIME
[13:21] <Tm_T> $LOLCATTIME ?
[13:21]  * Tm_T hides
[13:22] <AlanBell> anyone got a good question lined up for sabdfl?
[13:22] <snap-l> Boxers or briefs?
[13:23] <snap-l> Other than that, I got nothin'
[13:23] <AlanBell> that is a better question than some
[13:23] <snap-l> Oh, like the rambling questions?
[13:24] <kamilnadeem> Hi
[13:25] <kamilnadeem> I just found about this channel through Jono's latest post
[13:25] <AlanBell> hi
[13:25] <kamilnadeem> AlanBell: Hi
[13:25] <popey> welcome kamilnadeem
[13:25] <kamilnadeem> popey: Hi Alan
[13:25] <kamilnadeem> I want to mention the need of updating the Ubuntu offical derivatives sites
[13:26] <kamilnadeem> Kubuntu use screenshots from kde 4.3 or something, mentions openoffice instead of libreoffice , and the general theme is archaic
[13:27] <kamilnadeem> Please don't consider me being rude
[13:27] <AlanBell> not rude at all kamilnadeem, got a link?
[13:27] <kamilnadeem> AlanBell: yes 1min
[13:28] <kamilnadeem> here http://www.kubuntu.org/feature-tour
[13:29] <kamilnadeem> People have developed this notion that Canonical and Ubuntu team don't care about its variants(which we know isn't true) but such things don't help in changing the image
[13:30] <kamilnadeem> I had read somewhere that Xubuntu site updation was being folowed and suggestions were invited(not that I am creative enough to give any) :-)
[13:31] <AlanBell> jussi: who runs the kubuntu.org website (the not-a-wiki bit)?
[13:31] <popey> riddell isnt it?
[13:31] <jussi> I think ryanakca does it
[13:32] <popey> file bugs
[13:32] <jussi> yes, file bugs and follow up in #kubuntu-devel
[13:33] <kamilnadeem> popey: Sir are you saying it to me?
[13:34] <popey> to anyone
[13:34] <popey> if there are problems with the website, file bugs to let the maintainers know
[13:34] <AlanBell> kamilnadeem: https://launchpad.net/kubuntu-website
[13:34] <AlanBell> file bugs there
[13:35] <kamilnadeem> Ok mam, will ddefinetly do.
[13:35] <kamilnadeem> definitely*
[13:42] <dholbach> jcastro, around?
[13:44] <czajkowski> hmm
[13:48] <kamilnadeem> Done
[13:48] <kamilnadeem> here it is https://bugs.launchpad.net/kubuntu-website/+bug/893997
[13:48] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 893997 in kubuntu-website "The Kubuntu sites is archaic(both in content and design), an updation is must. " [Undecided,New]
[13:53] <kamilnadeem> Will be taking your leave now
[13:53] <kamilnadeem> Take care everyone
[13:53] <jcastro> dholbach: yo
[13:54] <jcastro> Ask Mark in 1:10 btw folks!
[13:54] <dholbach> jcastro, I got two google calendar updates for the tuition weeks we discussed yesterday
[13:54] <dholbach> and I can't figure out why the dates changed now
[13:54] <jcastro> tuition weeks?
[13:54] <jcastro> oh oh
[13:54] <jcastro> during UDS
[13:54] <dholbach> UOW and UDW
[13:54] <jcastro> we made the weeks 3 days
[13:54] <jcastro> tuesday, wed, and thurday
[13:54] <jcastro> it's the same amount of sessions
[13:55] <jcastro> just longer in each day but shorter week
[13:55] <dholbach> I had no idea
[13:55] <jcastro> so that it doesn't ruin our entire week
[13:55] <jcastro> yeah, it's in the BPs I should have told you guys
[13:55] <jcastro> I told bacon for the summaries
[13:55] <jcastro> but he must have forgot
[13:56] <dholbach> so maybe it'd be Ubuntu Developer Days (UDD) ;-)
[13:57] <jcastro> yeah but renaming it would be a pain
[13:58] <dholbach> yeah
[14:00] <jcastro> dholbach: I made ads for each week too
[14:00] <dholbach> oh yeah? where are they? :)
[14:01] <mainerror> dholbach: Guess. Where could they be? :D
[14:01] <jcastro> http://i.stack.imgur.com/gMMcD.png
[14:01] <jcastro> but I need one for app developer week
[14:01] <dholbach> excellent
[14:01] <jcastro> I was going to blog them all at once
[14:01]  * dholbach hugs jcastro
[14:01] <dholbach> sweet
[14:01] <jcastro> http://i.stack.imgur.com/mYVNF.png
[14:02] <jcastro> http://i.stack.imgur.com/0nj2n.png
[14:03] <dholbach> I'll mention it in tomorrow's dev update as well
[14:04] <jcastro> yeah just stick the ad right on it
[14:04] <jcastro> with a link to the wiki page
[14:04] <dholbach> yep
[14:04] <dholbach> nice
[14:04] <dholbach> ok, late late lunch time
[14:04] <jcastro> I need someone to do one for app developer week
[14:04] <dholbach> thanks again jcastro
[14:04] <jcastro> and we'll be set.
[14:06] <jcastro> dpm: people who are interested in localized cd images, is there a list or IRC they can go to?
[14:08] <dpm> jcastro, no, we don't. You can direct them to me and to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/OneiricOcelot/LocalizedImagesRollout for now
[14:09] <czajkowski> we'll need a ask dpm page yet for translation queries like ask jorge :)
[14:09] <jcastro> YEAH.
[14:10] <czajkowski> as usually my first point of call is ask dpm
[14:10]  * dpm hugs czajkowski
[14:13] <AlanBell> dpm: what is the benefit of doing an en_GB iso over just selecting the UK in regional settings on installation?
[14:13] <dpm> AlanBell, let me come back to you later on, on a call right now
[14:15] <maco> I think it's of more benefit to the languages for which we don't ship language packs on the cd, because for them, they have to install in a foreign language, then grab their real language later
[14:18] <AlanBell> ah, right
[14:18] <jcastro> AlanBell: the tool lets you add other bits too
[14:18] <jcastro> like, local bookmarks, etc.
[14:19] <jcastro> 40 minutes until Ask Mark!
[14:32] <jussi> jcastro: did daker get onto you?
[14:32] <akgraner> jcastro are you set for the session? Have all the help ya need etc?
[14:32] <jcastro> jussi: hmm?
[14:32] <jcastro> akgraner:
[14:32] <jcastro> I think I'll be fine
[14:32] <jcastro> pending I don't get confused with the bot
[14:32] <akgraner> jcastro, great figured you would be but wanted to ask
[14:33] <jussi> jcastro: daker has been after you for the last few days.
[14:33] <jcastro> jussi: oh, I have pinged him but haven't gotten responses
[14:33] <jussi> jcastro: you seem to keep misisng him. perhaps a memo is in order :D
[14:34] <jussi> [12:40:22] <daker> hello jcastro
[14:34] <jussi> [12:41:05] <jussi> daker: again, his middle of night :/
[14:34] <jcastro> weird, I didn't get notifications in my irc client
[14:34] <jcastro> oh well, whatever, I'll sort it, thanks for the ping
[14:34] <jcastro> 25 minutes until ask mark!
[14:35] <jcastro> akgraner: how do I check that the instructor bot thing is set up?
[14:35] <jcastro> like, that it will voice me and mark, etc.
[14:36] <akgraner> mark sure the calendar has you listed by your IRC nicks
[14:36] <akgraner> one as instructor and one as helper
[14:37] <akgraner> and it will automatically voice you
[14:37] <jcastro> ah
[14:37] <jcastro> it does not
[14:37] <jcastro> like
[14:37] <akgraner> based on the start times you have set
[14:37] <jcastro> Instructor: sabdfl
[14:37] <jcastro> Helper: jcastro
[14:38] <jcastro> like that?
[14:38] <akgraner> yep
[14:38] <akgraner> but not until the class is due to start
[14:38] <jcastro> right
[14:38] <akgraner> unless you have it set to start earlier
[14:39] <akgraner> it will also tell us in -backstage if one of you is missing from -classroom
[14:39] <akgraner> about 10 mins before the session starts
[14:40] <akgraner> jcastro I see the issue  - this has to be on the learning events calendar
[14:40] <akgraner> one sec let me fix it
[14:43] <akgraner> jcastro ok it's fixed
[14:43] <jcastro> oh
[14:43] <akgraner> look on the learning events calendar - 3rd calendar down on the fridge list
[14:44] <jcastro> ok
[14:44] <jcastro> amber
[14:44] <jcastro> can we make this more complicated?
[14:44] <jcastro> this seems too easy
[14:44] <jcastro> ...
[14:44] <akgraner> Sure we can
[14:44] <akgraner> :-)
[14:44] <jcastro> what we need is a calendar council
[14:44] <akgraner> and meetings about meetings
[14:44] <akgraner> and self licking ice cream cones and more
[14:44] <jcastro> dholbach: can you generate a graph of calendar meetings?
[14:45] <akgraner> so anything that takes place in -classroom has to be on the learning events calendar for classbot to work
[14:45] <akgraner> nothing complicated  - it's all on the wiki  :-)
[14:45] <akgraner> :-P
[14:47] <akgraner> I'll fix that calendar this weekend with the Ubuntu Weeks Stuff
[14:47] <akgraner> which was why I was asking for the changes etc
[14:49] <akgraner> so I was going to make sure the dates were set and the new times were final  - then populate the learning events calendar with place holders
[14:51] <jussi> btw, the survey summaries and stuff are not being done by me, Juha is taking care of them
[14:53] <nigelb> jcastro: you should join backstage as well.
[14:57] <dpm> AlanBell, I'm done with the call now, but I think Jorge and Mackenzie already answered the question, right? In summary, for en_GB it's still interesting for the other bits that can be localized
[14:58] <dpm> apart from the language
[14:58] <dpm> I mean language pack installation
[15:01] <dholbach> jcastro, no
[15:03] <dpm> jcastro, dholbach: davidpitkin is asking me which Ubuntu communication channels users can subscribe to stay up to date. He's more interested in the general user rather than someone wanting to stay up to date with any particular community (e.g. developers, cloud). I was going to tell him about:
[15:03] <dpm> - The Ubuntu Planet
[15:03] <dpm>  - The Fridge
[15:03] <AlanBell> thanks dpm
[15:03] <dpm> - UWN
[15:03] <dpm> - The Ubuntu Facebook page
[15:03] <dpm> - anything else I've forgotten?
[15:05] <nigelb> Don't we have twitter as well?
[15:07] <jcastro> man he is fast today
[15:08] <dpm> nigelb, do we? (/me does not follow it, checking it out now...)
[15:09] <dpm> argh, we do, and we've got one for the planet too
[15:10] <dpm> anything else I've forgotten anyone?
[15:10] <dholbach> dpm, ubuntu-announce mailing list?
[15:10] <dholbach> Ubuntu has a feed on G+ too
[15:10] <dpm> ah, good ones, thanks
[15:40] <popey> AlanBell: uupc in the podcast client shipped on the CD :D
[15:41] <jussi> Im hanging out if anyone feels like a chat :)
[15:46] <jussi> aww everyone either hates me or is busy :(
[15:49] <AlanBell> popey: that should be on the default iso anyhow
[15:51] <popey> hah
[15:51] <popey> file a bug ☺
[16:01] <dholbach> hey jono
[16:01] <jono> hey dholbach
[16:02] <Pendulum> jono: just send out the e-mail. Let me know if there's anything else you need from me.
[16:03] <jcastro> akgraner: ok waiting for the logs to refresh
[16:03] <jcastro> and then we can mark Ask Mark as D O N E.
[16:03] <jono> thanks Pendulum
[16:03] <akgraner> :-)
[16:03] <akgraner> you don't have to wait for the logs to refresh to add the link
[16:06] <jcastro> http://www.reddit.com/r/Ubuntu/comments/mmte3/logs_from_todays_ask_mark_qa_on_irc/
[16:06] <jcastro> if you're on reddit, upvote please
[16:06] <jcastro> forums done
[16:10] <jcastro> wiki updated
[16:10]  * jcastro drags that card into the DONE column
[16:10] <jcastro> smoke if you got em!
[16:20] <akgraner> jcastro - nice ad hoc jujuj general session you got going on there
[16:21] <daker> jcastro, yo
[16:23] <jcastro> daker: hey, what's your email?
[16:24] <jcastro> daker: you didn't push the theme fix to your branch, so I had lamont fix it locally
[16:24] <jono> so how are things doing in here?
[16:36] <jono> Pendulum, hey
[16:36] <jono> can you send me a list of the blueprints too?
[16:36] <jono> thanks!
[16:36] <jcastro> <-- lunch
[16:38] <bkerensa> :) Moving some EC2's around brb
[16:40] <alourie> hello there
[16:47] <Pendulum> popey: do you know who dressed as persia for the UDS Friday night?
[16:59] <popey> Pendulum: oh, i cant remember, but I did find it funny ☺
[16:59] <czajkowski> I forgot that
[16:59] <czajkowski> the hulk was by far the best - followed by some dude in a hot dog
[16:59] <popey> Beefy miracle!
[17:00] <jono> dpm, just give me two mins, wrapping a call with dholbach
[17:00] <dpm> jono, no worries
[17:01] <dpm> wrapping up a call myself
[17:07] <jono> dpm, invite sent
[17:07] <dpm> jono, ok, coming over
[17:27] <dholbach> alright my friends - calling it a day - see you all tomorrow
[17:30] <Pendulum> jono: sorry, was on a call. Sent now
[17:30] <jono> Pendulum, thanks!
[17:30] <jono> http://www.jonobacon.org/2011/11/23/google-tashout/
[17:32] <jcastro> is there a way to get a link to an event from gcal so I can put it on the wiki page
[17:32] <jcastro> like "click to put me in your calendar!"
[18:08] <popey> jcastro: make the event public (in the detail of the event) and then there is a 'publish event' link
[18:09] <popey> which gives you something like this:-
[18:09] <popey> http://paste.ubuntu.com/747340/
[18:09] <jono> czajkowski, hey
[18:09] <jcastro> perfecto
[18:09] <jcastro> thanks popeys
[18:10] <jono> popey, looks like you are going to Vienna too
[18:10] <popey> I am
[18:10] <popey> flight booked
[18:10] <jono> should be interesting :-)
[18:10] <jono> I am curious to see what the deal is on the Sat
[18:11] <popey> heh, me too
[18:11] <popey> no clue
[18:11] <jono> falling back into each other's arms or something
[18:11] <jono> lol
[18:11] <jono> singing around a piano
[18:11] <jono> lol
[18:11] <popey> *blink*
[18:11] <jono> :-)
[18:12] <jcastro> popey: ok one more thing
[18:12] <jcastro> how to tell moin to just use that html?
[18:12] <jcastro> the juju moin has html on so I just need to do the "this is real html moin" thing
[18:13] <jcastro> found it!
[18:30] <jcastro> popey: thinkup charm is almost ready
[18:30] <jcastro> needs like 2 more things
[18:35] <czajkowski> jono: looking for me ?
[18:35]  * popey has to google what thinkup is
[18:35] <jono> czajkowski, yup
[18:35] <jcastro> popey: your own hosted backup of all your social media content
[18:36] <jono> is there any chance you could drop me an email summarizing the goals and work for the LoCo Council and loco.ubuntu.com in 12.04?
[18:36] <jcastro> basically, backs up your twitter, G+, etc. all that.
[18:36] <jono> maybe you can work with cjohnston to gather this content
[18:36] <czajkowski> jono: grand job
[18:36] <czajkowski> will do
[18:36] <jono> thanks czajkowski
[18:36] <czajkowski> I'm looking for some of the action items from bp
[18:36] <popey> oooooo
[18:36] <czajkowski> but cant find them
[18:36] <popey> like the sound of that
[18:37] <jcastro> popey: it's one of  Gina Trapani's projects
[18:37] <czajkowski> I know I was actioned stuff to blog on locoteams but for the life of me I cant find the bp
[18:37] <jcastro> it's badass
[18:37] <popey> I like backups!
[18:39] <greg-g> yeah, I like thinkup, not only because of backed-up tweets but also for analytics (we just started using it at work during our fundraising campaign this year)
[18:39] <jcastro> right
[18:39] <jcastro> it's pretty awesome, and we really needed it
[18:40]  * greg-g nods
[18:40] <jcastro> it's the social de-silo-er basically
[18:40] <greg-g> kind-of
[18:40]  * jcastro does some hand wazy mdz-like thing
[18:40] <greg-g> haha
[18:40] <jcastro> something about freedom
[18:40] <greg-g> andn such
[18:40] <jcastro> and keeping a copy of every email I have ever sent for the last 20 years
[18:42] <greg-g> what was the robin williams movie where he edited people's memories after they died?
[18:42] <greg-g> (robin williams, right?)
[18:42] <jcastro> greg-g: when someone connects it to google's API things for data portability ...
[18:42] <jcastro> then it will be huge
[18:44] <greg-g> The Final Cut, btw, http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0364343/ (re: saving every email ever sent)
[20:21] <inetpro> jono: nice blog posting "Behind The Canonical Community Team"
[20:24] <technoviking> ugh, Microsoft Sharepoint may be the worst design software ever
[20:29] <bkerensa> technoviking: Why would you use it?
[20:30] <technoviking> bkerensa: work was using it before I got the job, not can't get them off it
[20:30] <bkerensa> :D
[20:30] <bkerensa> Alfresco :P
[20:33] <cjohnston> jcastro: http://chrisjohnston.org/2011/ubuntu-community-web-project-global-jam   you had better join us this time! we need your good juju!
[20:33] <jcastro> we need to talk about the sprint you want yo
[20:34] <cjohnston> ya
[20:34] <cjohnston> Kinda waiting on nigel and mhall119 to be around too
[20:34] <jcastro> ok
[20:34] <jcastro> let's do it this week
[20:34] <jcastro> tick tock
[20:34]  * jcastro points to the clock
[20:35] <bkerensa> ;p
[20:35] <bkerensa> jcastro: You counting down the hours till Turkey?
[20:37] <jcastro> not so much
[20:37] <jcastro> more like "crap I have to get this done before tomorrow"
[20:37] <jcastro> cjohnston: plan is to reset the line on friday right?
[20:38] <cjohnston> correct
[20:46] <jcastro> bbiab, caffeine break
[20:47] <cjohnston> Bring me some
[20:55] <technoviking> bkerensa: got a turkey brineing at home now.
[20:56] <pleia2> technoviking: ooh, can I come over for thanksgiving?
[20:56] <technoviking> sure, there is plenty nd then I won't have leftovers:)
[20:57] <pleia2> hehe
[21:03] <jono> thanks inetpro
[21:04] <bkerensa> jono: Looks like Chuck has been spotted http://j.mp/ChuckDoesPlymouth
[21:05] <jono> haha
[21:05] <jono> nice!
[21:24] <jono> cjohnston, hey
[21:25] <jono> did you get a chance to speak to czajkowski to summarize LoCo content for a post I want to do?
[21:29] <mainerror> jono: Since you basically answered this question in your stream today I think you should write a quick answer so the rest of the community knows too. http://askubuntu.com/questions/80772/whats-the-deal-with-all-these-chuck-montages
[21:29] <mainerror> :)
[21:29] <jono> mainerror, will do
[21:29] <mainerror> Thanks, that is awesome!
[21:39] <cjohnston> jono: no
[21:39] <cjohnston> jono: she was having dinner iirc
[21:40] <jono> cjohnston, np
[21:42] <cjohnston> czajkowski: ping me when you have time.. im at work today tho, so we will see
[22:12] <jcastro> jono: I FOUND WALDO: http://photos.pixoulphotography.com/Events/UDS-Precise/i-hnNTtfV/0/X2/20111102-145500-UDSPrecise-X2.jpg
[22:13] <cjohnston> lol
[22:32]  * jcastro is about to EOD.
[22:32] <jcastro> jono: last call for alcohol!
[22:33] <cjohnston> i want some
[22:34] <jcastro> enjoy your cooked dinosaurs tomorrow everyone!
[22:34] <cjohnston> lol
[22:38] <pleia2> omnomnom dinosaurs
[22:39] <cjohnston> we have turkey day on Saturday at the station too.. yay
[22:42] <jono> jcastro, mmm time for a beer
[22:57] <technoviking> Happy Thanksgiving to USAers, Happy Thursday to the rest of you:)


[12:30] <OpenMedia> Ok two programs are back to back on a channel. You want to record both but have the first overrun and the second start early.
[12:30] <superm1> ah yes
[12:30] <OpenMedia> It would be nice if this worked without needing two inputs for that channel
[12:30] <superm1> and if you do that, there is a schedule conflict
[12:30] <superm1> right
[12:31] <OpenMedia> It would often reduce the number of required tuners. Plus if you want to keep a recording you don't want the end of the show as part of a different on disk file
[12:32] <superm1> if nothing else, it can be on the feature requests page for 0.22
[01:13] <superm1> hey Daviey
[02:54] <CDG52> anyone use MMS (My Media System)?
[02:56] <OpenMedia> Never even heard of it
[02:56] <OpenMedia> Got a link?
[02:57] <OpenMedia> http://mymediasystem.org/
[04:33] <oleksiy> hi.. i have a question about mythubuntu: does it contain fixed mythmeather module or it's still broken?
[04:38] <OpenMedia> Probably still broken as it is built of 0.20-fixes rather than SVN trunk
[04:38] <superm1__> oleksiy, it is fixed in gutsy (which mythbuntu is going to be based from)
[04:39] <superm1__> we have a fix taken from trac
[04:39] <superm1__> on trunk
[04:40] <oleksiy> ok.. thanks for info.. but i'm on feisty now.. so i'll have to manually rebuild it from SVN..
[04:43] <oleksiy> superm1__: But on mythubuntu.org I see, that public alpha is on feisty.. Do You mean, that final release will be based on gutsy?
[04:43] <superm1__> oleksiy, actually the next alpha will be too
[04:43] <superm1__> i merged with a lot of gutsy installer changes and consequently can't build on feisty any more
[04:44] <superm1__> the next alpha you will see the mythweather fix too (since its already in gutsy)
[04:45] <oleksiy> when will next alpha be released?
[04:48] <superm1__> oleksiy, in the next few weeks
[04:48] <superm1__> we have a couple of big milestones we want in the installer
[04:48] <superm1__> before hand
[04:49] <superm1__> (what i'm current working on atm)
[04:51] <oleksiy> ok.. thanks, I'll wait :-)
[04:54] <OpenMedia> superm1__:  What was the ticket number for the weather fix?
[04:54] <superm1__> OpenMedia, lets see if i can find it
[04:56] <superm1__> mythtv ticket 3337
[04:57] <OpenMedia> Cheers.  I'll grab that then if you don't mind.
[05:01] <superm1> OpenMedia, http://codebrowse.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-mythtv/mythplugins/ubuntu/annotate/supermario%40portablemario-20070605232241-8zshpzp47i3xrpoi?file_id=07_mythweather_weath-20070524080547-ndd7zwksa9edmvox-5
[05:02] <superm1> you might want to wget that link
[05:02] <superm1> i dont know if codebrowse.launchpad.net has mimetypes set up right
[05:02] <superm1> for it to be a bin file
[05:05] <superm1> OpenMedia, alternatively if that doesn't work for some reason or another i can dcc it or something to that effect
[05:05] <superm1> in there the file is uuencoded
[05:06] <superm1> so after the patch is applied, it is decoded via this http://pastebin.ca/565692
[05:08] <OpenMedia> Ah I see. Never used debdiff before.
[05:08] <superm1> well thats a dpatch actually
[05:08] <superm1> my mistake saying debdiff above
[05:08] <superm1> its applied to a debian source package
[05:09] <OpenMedia> Ah.. Use dpatch all the time. codebrowse is taking an age to responde for some reason
[05:09] <superm1> here if you can receive DCC's i'll send it that way
[05:10] <OpenMedia> superm1: Cheers.. mighe be a little slow..
[05:10] <OpenMedia> Need some bandwith for the VPN into "work"
[05:11] <superm1> hm DCC aint' going .  here you know what, this is committed to gutsy
[05:11] <superm1> you can grab them here
[05:11] <superm1> http://packages.ubuntu.com/gutsy/graphics/mythweather
[05:11] <superm1> completely forgot
[05:15] <OpenMedia> my VPN is probably confusing dcc
[05:17] <superm1> at that link at p.u.c, the source package is there
[05:17] <superm1> you can grab the .diff.gz .orig.tar.gz and .dsc
[05:17] <superm1> and extract it
[05:20] <OpenMedia> superm1:  Yeah.. Cheers.
[05:21] <OpenMedia> superm1: But isn't that built against trunk, or are you still pulling from fixes at the moment?
[05:21] <superm1> fixes
[05:21] <superm1> laga has some packages going against trunk
[05:22] <OpenMedia> Ok. Sweek. I'll grab the diff.gz as that has your patch
[05:23] <superm1> ok cool.  i'll be back in a bit, have to run to the store
[06:40] <cdg52> anyone know how to load samba drives on startup that do not require a username or password?
[06:54] <superm1> cdg52, add to your /etc/fstab
[06:54] <superm1> assuming you want them mounted on the filesystem
[06:55] <superm1> if you just want them available from gnome-vfs aware apps, then just do it in nautilus
[07:03] <cdg52> .
[07:03] <cdg52> i added them
[07:03] <cdg52> but they arnt mounting
[07:05] <superm1> add the auto option
[07:05] <superm1> to the list of mount option
[07:06] <cdg52> ok let me look at it
[07:07] <cdg52> "//cdg52/Torrent - I" ~/Documents/IMovies smbfs auto  0 0
[07:07] <cdg52> like that/
[07:08] <superm1> defaults,auto
[07:08] <superm1> is what you'd likely need
[07:10] <cdg52> everything else was correct?
[07:11] <cdg52> "//cdg52/Torrent - I" ~/Documents/IMovies smbfs defaults,auto  0 0
[07:16] <superm1> well that -l
[07:16] <superm1> i'm not positive about
[07:16] <cdg52> theres no -l thats all in quotes
[07:16] <superm1> what is that supposed to be doing?
[07:16] <cdg52> its a file name
[07:16] <superm1> oh
[07:17] <superm1> weird share name
[07:17] <cdg52> yeah i didnt know linux hated stuff like that
[07:17] <superm1> as long as /etc/fstab can interpret a name in quotes, that looks right
[07:17] <cdg52> ok good
[07:17] <cdg52> hopefully it will work fine this time around
[07:18] <cdg52> ever use synergy?
[07:18] <cdg52> great program
[07:19] <superm1> yes
[07:19] <superm1> its a very useful app
[07:19] <cdg52> i used the quick version, but im not sure it it starts on startup do you know?
[07:19] <superm1> before i moved my desktop to the living room because my frontend died, I used it between my laptop and deskto p all the time
[07:19] <superm1> i never used any "quick" version
[07:19] <superm1> i wrote out conf files my self
[07:20] <cdg52> i installed quick and other one
[07:20] <cdg52> but i dont know how to start synergy
[07:20] <OpenMedia> Problem is all my machines share a single screen.
[07:21] <superm1> OpenMedia, synergy doesn't help too much there :)
[07:21] <cdg52> haha yeah
[07:21] <OpenMedia> 2407WFP rocks ;)
[07:21] <OpenMedia> Great for testing different video outputs from MythTV
[07:33] <cdg52> does anyone know how to turn off authetication with samba windows file sharing say i share a file with my mythtv box, and im on windows i dont want to have to enter a password
[07:34] <superm1> you have to switch from user auth to share auth
[07:34] <superm1> in your smb.conf
[07:34] <superm1> set security = share
[07:35] <cdg52> thats in /usr/share/samba/smb.conf?
[07:35] <superm1> /etc/samba.smb.conf
[07:35] <superm1> i thought
[07:35] <cdg52> o hmm
[07:35] <cdg52> well ill try urs instead lol
[07:37] <cdg52> i would assume i have to reload samba after i make a change?
[07:38] <cdg52> o yay all works ^_^
[07:38] <cdg52> although the file i had shared is not there
[07:38] <cdg52> but hmm
[07:49] <superm1> rogue780, u here?
[08:00] <superm1> imbrandon, you here?
[09:11] <imbrandon> superm1, sup?
[10:21] <Jimmy89> hey guys
[10:21] <Jimmy89> is there anything special i need to do before installing it, or during install
[10:22] <Jimmy89> because it keeps crashing for me when it gets to configuring MythTV
[10:27] <Jimmy89> just crashed at 83% again
[10:27] <laga> OpenMediaSupport: do you need to know anything wrt trunk packages?
[10:28] <laga> hello Jimmy89
[10:29] <laga> Jimmy89: superm1 has gone to bed now... let's see
[10:29] <laga> oh, you were here yesterday too, right?
[10:29] <laga> apt-get update didn' work for you
[10:29] <Jimmy89> just trying that again now
[10:29] <Jimmy89> doing apt-get update; apt-get upgrade again now
[10:29] <Jimmy89> i believe it has a problem even doing that though :(
[10:30] <laga> we might be able to find a solution :)
[10:30] <laga> the alpha 1 is still very rough
[10:30] <Jimmy89> yeh i understand
[10:31] <Jimmy89> a few secs till the apt-get stuff is done
[10:31] <laga> hey, take a look at his: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mythtv/+bug/119055/comments/8
[10:31] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 119055 in mythbuntu "mythbuntu crashes on  first installation" [High,Fix released]
[10:32] <Jimmy89> doing that apt-get update stuff, i get a failed in buffer write error
[10:33] <Jimmy89> ill try that extended one that just updates the ubiquity
[10:33] <laga> Jimmy89: you better reboot fist.
[10:33] <laga> first*
[10:34] <laga> apt-get upgrade might have filled up the ramdisk or something
[10:34] <Jimmy89> rgr
[10:34] <Jimmy89> yeh i think so, only 256mb :(
[10:34] <laga> what does that mean, "rgr"?
[10:34] <Jimmy89> roger
[10:34] <laga> ah, thanks
[10:34] <Jimmy89> im lazy, i guess ok would be shorter and more understandable :)
[10:35] <Jimmy89> restarting now
[10:35] <laga> heh
[10:42] <Jimmy89> that extended apt-get stuff worked without an error
[10:43] <Jimmy89> going to try to install again
[10:47] <laga> :)
[10:47] <Jimmy89> 40%.
[10:47] <Jimmy89> im getting my hopes up now :p
[10:51] <Jimmy89> yay!
[10:51] <Jimmy89> its at 90%
[10:51] <Jimmy89> got past that spot
[10:51] <Jimmy89> that apt-get thing works, ty Laga
[10:52] <laga> np
[10:53] <laga> you're lucky that i just saw that email from the bug tracker in my inbox :)
[10:55] <Jimmy89> yay it installed :)
[10:55] <laga> nice :)
[11:03] <Jimmy89> is there anyway to configure network card settings?
[11:10] <Jimmy89> is the only way to configure network cards through terminal?
[11:25] <laga> um
[11:25] <laga> i don't know, sorry
[03:26] <kellyg1> hi group
[07:46] <a5benwillis> ping superm1
[07:46] <a5benwillis> superm1: ping
[08:47] <kruuli> eelo!
[08:48] <kruuli> i have more questions today heeh :D
[08:48] <kruuli> can you make the via unichrome drivers work under mythbuntu?
[08:49] <kruuli> sorry for raining questions over you guys but theres really not that much info on mythbuntu .. but i love the concept so that wont stop me :D
[08:59] <DaveMorris> kruuli, did  you want t he TV-OUT function  for PAL by any chance?
[09:07] <kruuli> DaveMorris .. nah i just want the mpeg 2 acceleration to work ..
[09:07] <kruuli> gonna connect my tv thru the vga
[09:07] <kruuli> i have a guide from viaarena but its a total mess
[09:07] <kruuli> and i dont know if you can do all the things you need to do in mythbuntu?
[09:07] <DaveMorris> ok, I'll grab the ubuntu url for ya
[09:07] <DaveMorris> its the same as that
[09:08] <DaveMorris> I just had to to patch it for tv-oyt PAL to work
[09:08] <kruuli> oh ok .. but you made the drivers work with the guide from viaarena DaveMorris?
[09:08] <DaveMorris> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OpenChrome
[09:09] <kruuli> will that guide work? thought that whould not give me the mpeg2 support?
[09:10] <DaveMorris> yeah,  thene to have the mpeg2 decoding, you need to choose the via x somthing in the mythtv frontend options
[09:10] <DaveMorris> I'm not home till next week so I can't help much more than that atm
[09:11] <kruuli> ok cool .. ill give it a try DaveMorris thanks! :)
[09:11] <DaveMorris> heey sellis
[09:13] <DaveMorris> kruuli: there is a commenet or 2 oon viaarena by me though, can't remember what I was doing wrong back then though
[09:13] <kruuli> kk
[09:13] <OpenMedia> Hi guys.
[09:13] <DaveMorris> what device have you got with openchrome drives? a mini-itx board?
[09:14] <kruuli> eya OpenMedia my friend got himself the pvr 150 :)
[09:14] <kruuli> DaveMorris yeah a EPIA M
[09:14] <DaveMorris> I've got the  EN
[09:15] <OpenMedia> kruuli: Any issues? Hope it all goes well for him
[09:16] <kruuli> OpenMedia well hes prolly waiting for me to come over and do all the hard work :
[09:16] <kruuli> if i know him right .. and i do :p
[09:16] <kruuli> DaveMorris working well for ya?
[09:17] <DaveMorris> we are planning on packaging up the openchrome drivers for mythbuntu, but are focusing on other issues atm,  esp  since I'm the only one who currently has an opencrhome requiring device
[09:17] <DaveMorris> yeah works fine, a bit overpowered for what I need with  the mpeg2 hardware decoding
[09:18] <kruuli> ah sounds nice :)
[09:18] <DaveMorris> I wanna try one of the new boards, with component out as well as optical and digital sound
[09:18] <kruuli> hum "sudo apt-get build-dep xserver-xorg-video-via" that line .. after building the independant tree gives me a error message " that dir does not exsist"
[09:19] <kruuli> DaveMorris yeah those seems nice .. im thinking about bring down the noise on mine .. got too many fans running atm
[09:20] <DaveMorris> mines really quite, just the psu fan and the cpu  fan
[09:21] <kruuli> bah "sudo apt-get install subversion autoconf automake1.9 libtool" complains about the file :/
[09:22] <OpenMedia> DaveMorris: Which boards have got component out then? One reason we use the Asus M2NPV-VM is we can support component HD
[09:23] <DaveMorris> kruuli: can you pastebin all the errors for us
[09:23] <DaveMorris> please
[09:25] <DaveMorris> OpenMedia: http://www.via.com.tw/en/products/mainboards/motherboards.jsp?motherboard_id=450
[10:58] (DaveMorris/#ubuntu-mythtv) yeaeh, but the guide is slightly wrong
[10:58] <kruuli> hehe ok
[10:58] <kruuli> but with your documentation ill be fine right? :D
[10:59] <DaveMorris> its now xserver-xorg-video-via rather than xserver-xorg-driver-via
[10:59] <DaveMorris> the docs I do won't cover openchrome yet
[10:59] <kruuli> oh ok
[11:00] <kruuli> well let me review em anyway i work as a designer by proffession so i should be able to be to some help
[11:00] <kruuli> ^^
[11:29] <superm1> okay guys i'm back around
[11:29] <superm1> did you sort out the troubles earlier?
[11:29] <superm1> i saw 4 messages with my name
[11:29] <kruuli> heh heya again superm1
[11:29] <superm1> hey kruuli
[11:29] <kruuli> was just me bothering DaveMorris .. and yes were sorted! :)
[11:30] <DaveMorris> superm1 are univerise and multiverse activated by default on mythbuntu?
[11:30] <superm1> ah okay
[11:30] <superm1> yes DaveMorris they are
[11:30] <DaveMorris> hmm, somehow kruuli's wasn't workring
[11:31] <DaveMorris> and they where empty when I logged in
[11:31] <superm1> sudo apt-get update
[11:31] <superm1> you would need to do likely
[11:36] <DaveMorris> wb OpenMedia
[11:37] <OpenMedia> Hmm. dropped off for some reason.
[11:37] <OpenMedia> Wondered why it had gone very quiet
[11:39] <DaveMorris> you get my PM's about possible resellers?
[11:40] <superm1> DaveMorris, you got my mail about the screenshots showing the updated interface right?
[11:40] <DaveMorris> superm1 yeah there great
[11:40] <DaveMorris> I'll do it next week
[11:40] <superm1> Good activity for a week of relaxing :)
[11:41] <superm1> i'm in contact with the installer guys and getting patches into mainstream ubiquity right now too
[11:41] <OpenMedia> DaveMorris: Yeah.. got two of them
[11:41] <superm1> so as long as things keep going good here, we're on track
[11:41] <OpenMedia> DaveMorris: What did you mean about needing to be registered?
[11:41] <DaveMorris> I only sent 2, I'm sure there are some others in thee UK, but they are the one's I've dealt with
[11:42] <DaveMorris> to send PM's you need to register,
[11:42] <DaveMorris> guys what the command to register?
[11:43] <kruuli> ./msg nickserv register
[11:43] <superm1> (without the .)
[11:43] <kruuli> indeed
[11:43] <superm1> is Daviey here?
[11:44] <OpenMedia> Hmm rejected invalid nickname..
[11:45] <kruuli> nickname is prolly already taken OpenMedia
[11:46] <kruuli> you can mess a dev to remove that user if it hasnt been used for 60 day
[11:46] <kruuli> s
[11:47] <superm1> ompaul,  ^
[11:47] <OpenMedia> No worries. Sorted.
[11:47] <ompaul> superm1, ?
[11:47] <DaveMorris> Dai
[11:47] <ompaul> ahh
[11:47] <DaveMorris> Daviey: was about earlier
[11:54] <superm1> ah okay.
[11:54] <superm1> well DaveMorris once you get started on the LaTeX stuff, i'll be very interested to see the progression here.  I've wanted to learn LaTeX for ages
[12:02] <OpenMedia> DaveMorris: What are you using LaTeX for?
[12:03] <DaveMorris> to produce the main documents for installing and configuring mythbuntu, that way we can easily have html and pdf versions, and hopefully easily have country specific docs
[12:06] <DaveMorris> for example the UK/NZ/USA docs will pretty much be the same for installing apart from how to configure the tv channels for each country
[12:06] <DaveMorris> so those are done in seperate files, and are included in the country specific docs
[12:06] <OpenMedia> We have a load of NZ bits we'd like to add.
[12:06] <DaveMorris> sure, hopefully once I've got the ground work done it should be nice and easy :)
[12:07] <OpenMedia> Our docs are at - http://openmedia.co.nz/openmedia/content/category/4/68/59/
[12:08] <OpenMedia> Most of the content is reasonably generic. Quite a lot of NZ users find the DVB-S setup stuff useful
[12:10] <DaveMorris> yeah, also setting it up with the different sattalitee/cable companies vaires slightly
[12:10] <DaveMorris> and people will be unsure of what to do, and there for won't bother
[12:11] <OpenMedia> Some country specific pages might help. Willing to contribute modified versions of our docs for the NZ side of things
[12:12] <DaveMorris> thanks, there also might be a few word changes required, between the different English speaking countries
[12:12] <OpenMedia> Hmm The joys of US spelling :)
[12:19] <kruuli> gonna hit the sack!
[12:20] <kruuli> thanks again DaveMorris for all your help!
[12:21] <superm1> US spelling... haha
[12:21] <superm1> centre versus center et tal
[12:21] <OpenMedia> Heck US Letter vs A4 ;)
[12:22] <superm1> i'm *so* glad that they finally added support in ubiquity to set that default
[12:22] <superm1> it is very annoying to have every printout messed up because A4 was the default
[12:23] <superm1> the new ubiquity build in feisty detects your paper type based upon locale
[12:23] <superm1> and puts it in /etc/papersize for you
[12:24] <DaveMorris> sounds good
[12:25] <superm1> probably wasn't a big deal for you folks across the pond though, given the default was A4
[12:25] <OpenMedia> For Ubuntu.
[12:25] <OpenMedia> Windows/Mac choose US-Paper
[12:26] <DaveMorris> btw where are the mythbuntu severs?
[12:26] <superm1> I believe kansas, USA
[12:26] <superm1> maybe Missouri
[12:26] <DaveMorris> and does the mythbuntu iso have dvdcss installed by default?
[12:26] <superm1> no it does not
[12:27] <superm1> thats stepping on iffy grounds if we did
[12:27] <superm1> we already do need to straighten out the font situation
[12:27] <DaveMorris> good, other wise you might find yourself in guntomna bay
[12:27] <superm1> with msttcorefonts
[12:27] <superm1> Daviey, needs to get that fake-msttcorefonts made already :)


[05:51] <marcfp> hi
[05:51] <marcfp> does anybody form this channel have an ahtec laptop ?
[06:13] <marcfp> i have a ahtec cl-55, but i can't config acpi, can anyone help me ?
[11:57] <NaNO2x> anyone around? the template seems to be missing
[11:59] <takkaria> I said that when I joined the channel about two weeks ago; there's only been a screenful of conversation since then
[11:59] <takkaria> and in that screenful, there's been at least two questions about where the template is :P