[07:51] <zniavre> good morning
[08:51] <vish> kwwii: Bug #567942 , is simple , we just need to add the new logo in the 32px and 48px sizes
[08:59] <kwwii> vish: ahhh, right
[08:59] <kwwii> vish: hadn't seen that bug yet
[09:00] <kwwii> easily fixable, but not for lucid anymore
[09:09] <vish> yup...
[09:32] <kwwii> thorwil: ping?
[09:39] <thorwil> kwwii: pong
[13:23] <kwwii> sooooo
[13:23] <kwwii> drum roll please
[13:24] <kwwii> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/VisualIdentity
[13:24] <kwwii> ta-da
[13:24] <kwwii> we will be spreading this info the correct wiki pages, etc
[13:29] <andreasn> sweet, thanks!
[22:21] <kwwii> vish: have you registered your nick with freenode?
[22:22] <kwwii> vish: I just tried to op you and it said you were not
[22:22] <vish> kwwii: yeah , i'm registered .. also using the ubuntu cloak
[22:26]  * vish keeping fingers crossed.. trying new upstream kernel
[22:50] <kwwii> vish: hehe, my laptop simply died today
[22:50] <kwwii> two shopping days before two weeks of meetings (for me)
[22:51] <kwwii> vish: so "vish" is your registered nick?
[22:51] <vish> kwwii: yup
[22:52] <kwwii> hehe
[22:52] <kwwii> now it worked
[22:52] <vish> hehe :D
[22:52] <kwwii> I guess the first thing to do is change the topic
[22:52] <vish> kwwii: i had probably just logged in when you tried earlier  ;)
[22:52] <kwwii> indeed
[22:53] <vish> kwwii: did you notice the names of the pdf files? they are named *K*ubuntu
[22:54] <vish> rather the eps files
[22:54] <kwwii> vish: nope, didnt't see that
[22:54] <kwwii> which files
[22:54] <kwwii> ?
[22:55] <vish>  kwwii the files in   :  UBUNTU_BRANDMARK_AW/ubuntu_brandmark/Files_for_print/
[22:56] <kwwii> I do not see a K anywhere
[22:56] <vish> when you open the files .eps files the title bar will mention "Kubuntu_development_TM"
[22:57] <kwwii> what are you opening it with?
[22:57] <vish> kwwii: when they open in evince
[22:57] <kwwii> I have tried the document viewer and inkscape and I do not see that
[22:57] <kwwii> where do you see it with evince
[22:57] <kwwii> ?
[22:57] <vish> let me get the screenshot
[22:57] <kwwii> vish: I appreciate this info
[22:57] <kwwii> vish: as we need to fix it
[22:58] <kwwii> but I cannot see it currently
[22:58] <kwwii> also, my desktop runs jaunty with updates and my laptop died tonight
[22:58] <kwwii> which really sucks
[22:59] <kwwii> we lost a lot of information tonight becuase of that
[22:59] <vish> kwwii: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1325768/Screenshot-1.png , notice the title bar
[23:00] <vish> every file i tried is the same
[23:00] <kwwii> btw, I sent the button svg to you..can you send the original back to me? I am afraid of losing it due to my disk failure
[23:00] <vish> sure thing
[23:01] <kwwii> vish: hrm, I cannot reproduce that on my machine
[23:02] <kwwii> but again, I am not running lucid here
[23:02] <kwwii> I cannot see any of that info in the metadata either
[23:02] <vish> maybe some else on lucid can check it too
[23:02] <kwwii> can you check the metadata of the file you are viewing to see what it says
[23:02] <kwwii> and check the filename
[23:03] <kwwii> it should show the file name
[23:03] <kwwii> afaik
[23:03] <vish> same
[23:03] <kwwii> the filename from the download is k*?
[23:04] <vish> kwwii: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1325768/Screenshot-Properties.png
[23:05] <kwwii> hrm
[23:05] <vish>  btw, it also mentions illustrator ;p
[23:05] <kwwii> this seems like a funky effect of too much introspection
[23:05] <kwwii> where did you right click to get this?
[23:12] <vish> just sent you the buttons mail..
[23:12] <kwwii> I will end up buying either a new hard drive for my laptop and losing all the date, at least for now, or buying a new laptop and losing the data as well
[23:12] <kwwii> hehe, cool
[23:12] <kwwii> thanks
[23:12] <kwwii> good thing I sent it out
[23:12] <vish> kwwii: see , its good to share ;p
[23:13] <kwwii> hehe, if things worked by my rules all of this would be open
[23:19] <kwwii> my laptop is totally dead
[23:19] <kwwii> and I really don't have the money to buy a new one
[23:20] <kwwii> suckage
[23:20] <knome> kwwii, you have to ask mark for a new one.
[23:21] <vish> yeah.. the desktop team got new minis for testing , you should get a new laptop ;)
[23:21] <kwwii> knome: lol, my contract states that I have to provide the computers I need
[23:21] <knome> aww
[23:21] <vish> :s
[23:21] <knome> are you not paid? :P
[23:22] <vish> knome: could you open the branding files? and check what i was mentioning? the "Kubuntu..." thingie  ?
[23:22] <knome> uhmm
[23:22] <kwwii> vish: I did and cannot see it
[23:22] <kwwii> tell me which exact file you see it with
[23:23] <kwwii> and which exact program and step you doing to reproduce it
[23:23] <knome> vish, what exactly should i check?
[23:23] <kwwii> LOL, the 13th time I try my laptop boots
[23:23] <kwwii> !!!
[23:23] <knome> kwwii, fail
[23:23] <knome> ;)
[23:23] <vish> kwwii: almost all the files , all i did was to open the file in evince " UBUNTU_BRANDMARK_AW/ubuntu_brandmark/Files_for_print/ "
[23:24] <kwwii> should I make a backup?
[23:24] <vish> knome: ^
[23:24] <vish> kwwii: definitely backup!
[23:24] <knome> like, what's wrong with that?
[23:24] <kwwii> man, i am soooooooo happy that it booted
[23:24] <kwwii> amazed, really
[23:25] <vish> knome: do you see the files named as Kubuntu.. like this >  http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1325768/Screenshot-1.png  in the title bar?
[23:25] <knome> let me see
[23:26] <knome> i can't even load the files apparently
[23:27] <knome> is there something wrong in my installation?  :P
[23:28] <kwwii> but maybe the problem is only with evince
[23:28] <kwwii> I will test it once the backup is done :p
[23:28] <kwwii> 48min
[23:29] <vish> well , i noticed the problem in evince.. inkscape shows on metadata though
[23:30] <vish> gah! even the files in /UBUNTU_BRANDMARK_AW/ubuntu_brandmark/Files_for_web  are the same!  looks like all the .eps files are retaining the metadata somewhere which is read in evince
[23:31] <kwwii> hr
[23:31] <kwwii> hrm
[23:31] <kwwii> that sucks
[23:31] <kwwii> I wonder which metadata it is
[23:31] <kwwii> I cannot see anything in the SVG
[23:31] <kwwii> well, from inkscape that is
[23:31] <vish> yeah , inkscape is clean for me too
[23:31] <kwwii> I guess I should look into the SVG itself
[23:32] <kwwii> too late here for that tonight thought
[23:32] <kwwii> tought
[23:32] <kwwii> argh
[23:32] <kwwii> though
[23:32] <kwwii> vish, you should be in be
[23:32] <kwwii> d
[23:32] <vish>  ;)
[23:33] <knome> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libspectre/+bug/479674
[23:33] <knome> i think i have that...
[23:34] <kwwii> knome: sounds reasonable
[23:34] <kwwii> vish: let's discuss this k* issue more tomorrow
[23:34] <vish> the COF .eps files are named correctly
[23:34] <vish> kwwii: sure.. nite!
[23:34] <knome> reasonable, i don't think, explains why this happens, yes
[23:34] <kwwii> vish: even if you are staying up I have a family and have to sleep
[23:35] <kwwii> vish: do you have a family?
[23:35] <knome> even if i have family i'll stay up
[23:35] <knome> oh wait..
[23:35] <kwwii> lol
[23:35] <vish> kwwii: lol , everyone has a family..
[23:35] <kwwii> but you aren't really doing anything than talking
[23:35] <vish> not of my own yet ;p
[23:35] <knome> kwwii means family as in horny wife
[23:35]  * knome hides
[23:36] <kwwii> vish: sure, sorry for not explaining that right
[23:36] <kwwii> knome: I want your horny wife
[23:36] <kwwii> how is that?
[23:36] <knome> nah
[23:36] <kwwii> lol
[23:36] <vish> explaining what. horny wife?
[23:36] <knome> ;)
[23:36] <knome> kwwii, you should have your own.
[23:36] <kwwii> knome: no worries, I do
[23:37] <knome> kwwii, good. i'm reliefed. if you didn't, you would have gone wayyyyy down the wrong road.
[23:37] <kwwii> vish: I really want to figure out these problems with the names/metadata
[23:37] <kwwii> vish: quite important that the ubuntu visuals don't say kubuntu
[23:37] <kwwii> :p
[23:37] <vish> ;)
[23:38] <knome> a suggestion: make them say "xubuntu rocks!"
[23:38] <vish> s/ro/su
[23:38] <knome> vish, wrong syntax.
[23:38] <knome> vish, missing slash.
[23:39] <vish> ;)
[23:39] <kwwii> my laptop, while still working is copying 75.4gb of info to a backup disk. Let's hope it goes well
[23:40] <knome> anyone happened to fix broken sparkplugs?
[23:40] <kwwii> now I have an excuse to a) take half the day off to buy an SSD and b) speed up my computer :-)
[23:41] <knome> mine have some kind of contact failure
[23:41] <kwwii> in addition I got the chance to save my files
[23:41] <kwwii> what a deal
[23:42]  * vish only heard of spark plugs in cars
[23:43] <knome> http://img.muare.vn/close_your_eyes/koss-sparkplug.jpg
[23:43] <kwwii> knome: I honestly beat the shit out of this laptop and poof it works again
[23:43] <knome> pretty nice comparing to their price.
[23:43] <knome> kwwii, :D
[23:44] <knome> kwwii, did you get a backup of the uds-jaunty group photo?
[23:44] <kwwii> probably a connector or something with the hard disk itself
[23:45] <kwwii> knome: I have that on a backup of my old mac stuff for which I no longer have the software to export
[23:45] <kwwii> knome: I know, _I can export it
[23:45] <kwwii> somehow
[23:45] <knome> :)
[23:45] <knome> maybe someday
[23:45] <kwwii> ask me in the year 3000
[23:45] <kwwii> I will honestly think about it soon
[23:46] <kwwii> the problem is that the files were done on a mac which is out of served
[23:46] <knome> :)
[23:46] <kwwii> and although I have them, I lost the directory info
[23:47] <knome> sounds like you need to do backups way more often...
[23:47] <kwwii> so I need to search through thousands of files to find them without any idea of where they are
[23:47] <kwwii> lol
[23:47] <kwwii> I have terabytes of backups
[23:47] <kwwii> just in pictures
[23:48] <kwwii> the problem is that with all I do by employer thinks it is my responsibility to make backups
[23:48] <knome> heh
[23:48] <kwwii> but really, it is not my problem
[23:48] <kwwii> anyway<
[23:49] <knome> lately, my employer also thought i should make backups
[23:49] <knome> oh wait, that's me
[23:49] <kwwii> I do try to make backups
[23:49] <knome> (yeah, i lost some important files 2 days ago. fortunately i can get the backups from my client...)
[23:50] <kwwii> but if something gets lost and they expect me to pay for the hardware and software when something gets lost it is not my problem
[23:50] <knome> yup
[23:50] <kwwii> anyway
[23:50] <kwwii> time for sleep
[23:50] <kwwii> night
[23:50] <knome> night!


[00:13] <delt> hello
[01:06] <delt> uh.... quake3 used OSS right?
[01:10] <delt> in /lib/modules i just see "snd_mixer_oss" which may have anything to do with oss....
[01:12] <delt> is there some "apt-get" package that contains the rest of the kernel modules?
[01:12] <genii-around> extras has some drivers
[01:13] <delt> apt-get install "extras" ?
[01:13] <genii-around> linux-image-$(uname -r)-extras
[01:13] <genii-around> Sorry no
[01:14] <genii-around> linux-image-extra-$(uname -r)-generic
[01:15] <delt> uname -r in this case (xubu 11.04 i think?) would be 3.2.0-26-generic
[01:15] <delt> E: Unable to locate package linux-image-extra-3.2.0-26-generic-generic
[01:15] <delt> E: Couldn't find any package by regex 'linux-image-extra-3.2.0-26-generic-generic'
[01:16] <delt> E: Unable to locate package linux-image-3.2.0-26-generic-extras
[01:16] <delt> E: Couldn't find any package by regex 'linux-image-3.2.0-26-generic-extras'
[01:16] <genii-around> See my correction, extra comes before the uname -r
[01:16] <delt> just tried both
[01:17] <delt> if i compile a new kernel, what else won't work?
[01:17] <delt> sry, kind of pissed off at my fried gfx card :/
[01:19] <ToZ> delt, have a look here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Games/Native/QuakeIIIArena
[01:19] <delt> thanks
[01:19] <ToZ> delt, when I played Quake 4, I ended up recompiling the kernel with oss enabled to get sound.
[01:20] <delt> gaaah fuck i hate this new firefox :( :(
[01:20] <bazhang> no cursing here delt
[01:20] <delt> oh sry
[01:20] <delt> (+ english is not my native language)
[01:22] <delt> bash: /proc/asound/card0/pcm0p/oss: No such file or directory
[01:23] <delt> ...or maybe there's some 3rd party quake3 binary compiled with alsa instead of oss...?
[01:31] <delt> uhh.... wait a minute
[01:31] <delt> user@phobos-xubuntu:/dev$ find . | grep -i dsp
[01:31] <delt> user@phobos-xubuntu:/dev$
[01:33] <ToZ> delt, here is post on getting it to work on 11.04: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1813176
[02:25] <malv1> why does xubuntu always ask to unlock my keyring
[02:29] <bazhang> set it to blank
[02:30] <malv1> but then it wont be protected
[02:30] <bazhang> then keep it there, and enter the password
[02:31] <malv1> ubuntu unlocks the keyring when you log in yet xubuntu does not
[02:32] <holstein> your XFCE is not
[02:32] <bazhang> ubuntu has the same behavior
[02:32] <holstein> to be precise... maybe try resetting the pass
[02:32] <bazhang> you have it set up differently if the behavior is different
[02:46] <delt> *sigh* that gfx card cost me $100...... :( :( :(
[12:17] <hobgoblin> is there anyway to specify which screen notifications appear on if you have 2
[12:21] <ochosi> hobgoblin: if you're talking about xfce4-notifyd the notifications automatically appear on the screen that has the focus (==mouse-cursor or window that has focus)
[12:22] <hobgoblin> ok
[12:22] <hobgoblin> I'll take that as a no :)
[12:23] <ochosi> yes, take that as a no :)
[12:23] <ochosi> it's a sensible default and i don't think it can be overridden
[12:23] <hobgoblin> :)
[12:23] <ochosi> unless you modify the code
[12:23]  * hobgoblin shudders
[12:24] <hobgoblin> sounds like voodoo - I'll put up with it :)
[12:40] <astraljava> LOLlero.
[12:40] <astraljava> C'mon, it's not that hard. Give it a shot.
[12:41] <astraljava> *oops* /me notices the channel
[12:41] <ochosi> hehe
[12:46] <hobgoblin> :)
[13:10] <bak3r> what up
[13:10] <bak3r> :D
[18:01] <theBlakeBrown> I can't seem to find the rss feed links to the new Coder Radio Podcast.  Are they hidden some where on the site, are they just not available yet, or am I blind?
[18:01] <theBlakeBrown> oops wrong channel
[18:30] <ben_> howdy all.  xubuntu 10.04 for powerpc, how do i install xscreensavers... or they show up, but are greyed out and "aren't installed"  running all updates doesn't solve it.  final goal... ftp into the box, and display pics as a slideshow, so i assumed the easiest way was to set the screensaver to do a slideshow off a defined folder.  thanks
[18:32] <ben_> *ftp into the box, move pics there from another remote box via the web, then use the entire machine as a digital picture frame.
[18:34] <TOE-Kitsune> Hello, I have an issue. I installed the Nvidia drivers last night and now DirectX based games don't work in wine. I am running Xubuntu 12.04 AMD64 Before I installed the Nvidia drivers directx games worked perfectly fine.
[18:55] <ochosi> TOE-Kitsune: then switch back to the nouveau driver you were using before?
[18:57] <TOE-Kitsune> Before I wasn't using any proprietary drivers. I recently started contributing to another OS game that needs proprietary drivers to run so I would prefer to keep them if possible.
[20:03] <Silent> Sup guys
[20:03] <Silent> How can I configure the Xubuntu live CD to save session files?
[20:04] <genii-around> !persistent
[20:04] <Silent> "NOTE: Adobe Flash Player 11.2 will be the last version to target Linux as a supported platform. Adobe will continue to provide security backports to Flash Player 11.2 for Linux."
[20:04] <Silent> Bastards!
[20:04] <genii-around> I think the general idea is to have a casper-cow volume
[20:04] <Silent> Thanks genii
[20:21] <syd> And, yet another weird problem with Ubuntu plagues me. I changed the orientation of my monitors (I switched to a two-high vertical mount) and, for some ungodly reason, my mouse pointer is now about 64px tall and I cannot find any way to revert it. Does anyone have any idea what I could even look into for this?
[20:22] <syd> I should add that it is only incredibly large when hovering over something with no click action.
[21:48] <qaghan> Hey guys, I was having Kubuntu 12.04 on my laptop and I installed the "xubuntu-desktop" and I got asked what display manager I should use
[21:48] <qaghan> which one should I pick
[21:48] <qaghan> kdm or lightdm?
[21:49] <well_laid_lawn> it's up to you, both should work ok
[21:49] <qaghan> Alright. Will it remain what I chose even if I select xfce during login?
[21:49] <well_laid_lawn> yep
[21:50] <qaghan> Hmmm, alright. Hope it's going to be fine.
[21:50] <qaghan> well_laid_lawn: Thank you :)
[21:50] <well_laid_lawn> cheers :)


[00:25] <jbicha> what happened to bug 1054776?
[00:26] <wgrant> Sigh, looks like some random marked it public
[00:26] <wgrant> Er, private
[00:26] <wgrant> Let me get it recovered
[00:27] <jbicha> thanks
[00:37] <wgrant> jbicha: That bug's alive again.
[00:37] <wgrant> Thanks for pointing that out
[00:37] <jbicha> bkerensa pointed it to me, I didn't understand it but now I do
[00:38] <wgrant> I see reddit's already calling it a Canonical conspiracy to delete the bug :)
[00:38] <wgrant> But yeah, some random user marked it private :(
[00:39] <wgrant> Ah, thanks for commenting there
[00:40] <lifeless> its public again
[00:41] <lifeless> wow 1070 heat
[00:42] <wgrant> Lots of affectsmetoos
[00:42] <StevenK> wgrant: Why would they do that? :-(
[00:51] <xnox> there was yet to be a feature freeze without a controversy. all is as per schedule.
[00:52] <wgrant> Heh
[00:52] <wgrant> Indeed
[01:40] <tsimpson> it looks like the user who made it private also went an unsubscribed a bunch of people
[01:41] <wgrant> Making it private unsubscribes people who aren't able to see it any more
[01:41] <wgrant> It also displays a big warning that this is going to happen...
[01:41] <wgrant> But apparently the user clicked through it
[01:42] <tsimpson> ah, I see
[02:43] <thomi> Hi, Using the launchpad MR email interface, I occaisonally get a mail bounce containing "Signature couldn't be verified: (7, 8, u'Bad signature')" - but I'm using the same mail client with the same key set up...
[02:54] <smoser> hey, wonder if any launchpad admin can help me.
[02:54] <smoser> i'm trying to copy binaries from https://launchpad.net/%7Ecanonical-arm-dev/+archive/ppa/+copy-packages to https://launchpad.net/~maas-maintainers/+archive/maas-ephemeral-images
[02:55] <bigjools> smoser: timeouts?
[02:55] <smoser> i copied the source once, then realized I didn't want source (as I need the armhf builds), and deleted it from the target
[02:55] <smoser> (i do get timeouts, but i'm not sure its related)
[02:55] <smoser> now I keep getting:
[02:55] <smoser> The following source cannot be copied:
[02:55] <smoser>     mountall 2.41~ppa415 in quantal (same version already uploaded and waiting in ACCEPTED queue)
[02:56] <smoser> i think i could have hosed something by deleting the source copy very soon after i did it.
[02:56] <bigjools> yes, yes you did :(
[02:56] <bigjools> wgrant: geez, I thought this bug was fixed ages ago?
[02:56] <smoser> bigjools, can it be fixed?
[03:02] <smoser> bigjools, are you able to help that?
[03:03] <smoser> or know a workaround?
[03:03] <wgrant> I'm just heading out for lunch, can look afterwards
[03:03] <wgrant> But normally that'll resolve itself after 10-15 minutes
[03:03] <wgrant> When it's published
[03:04] <smoser> well, its been ~ 30 at least
[03:04] <wgrant> Unless you've crashed the publisher
[03:04] <smoser> i did just give it a while to see if it would owrk itsweay out
[03:04] <smoser> way out
[03:05] <bigjools> smoser: there's a crack team of maintenance people available I hope, but if all else fails I can look, if I can remember how to :)
[03:05] <smoser> well, if wgrant can resolve it before i wake up in ~ 8 hours, that'd be soon enough for me.
[03:06] <bigjools> ok
[03:06] <wgrant> Hm
[03:06] <wgrant> This was a delayed copy
[03:06] <wgrant> They never end well :)
[03:06] <bigjools>  /o\
[03:06] <bigjools> it's time to remove that crappy code and use the new world order
[03:06] <wgrant> You know you're in trouble when you see an announcement from process-accepted...
[03:06] <wgrant> bigjools: Yeah, cjwatson is close :)
[03:06] <bigjools> heh
[03:07] <bigjools> is this holding up the ppa publishing pipeline?
[03:07] <wgrant> No
[03:07] <wgrant> No exceptions that I can see
[03:07] <wgrant> So I'm really confused as to why it's stuck in ACCEPTED
[03:07] <wgrant> Really need to leave now, though
[03:07] <wgrant> Will be back in an hourish
[03:07] <smoser> thanks wgrant
[03:07] <bigjools> wgrant in leaving keyboard SHOCKER
[03:07] <wgrant> Shhh
[03:09] <wgrant> Oh right
[03:09] <wgrant> I remember a bug here
[03:09] <lifeless> wgrant: a BUG?!?!?!?!?1
[03:09] <wgrant> When it says "waiting in ACCEPTED queue", it might actually mean "in any queue at all, including DONE"
[03:09] <wgrant> IIRC
[03:09] <wgrant> You can't delayed-copy twice to the same place, probably
[03:09] <wgrant> Anyway, => lunch
[04:13] <wgrant> So yeah
[04:13] <wgrant>             upload_conflict = getUtility(IPackageUploadSet).findSourceUpload(
[04:13] <wgrant>                 name=source.sourcepackagerelease.name,
[04:13] <wgrant>                 version=source.sourcepackagerelease.version,
[04:13] <wgrant>                 archive=self.archive, distribution=series.distribution)
[04:14] <wgrant> When it says ACCEPTED, it means "any queue at all"
[04:15] <wgrant> smoser: There's not much you can do directly. But if you copy it with binaries to another public PPA (any one will do) and wait a few minutes for everything to be made public, you should be able to copy into ppa:maas-maintainers/maas-ephemeral-images.
[11:34] <smoser> wgrant, ok. woke up this morning, tried it. it still failed, so i just now copied binaries to personal ppa (https://launchpad.net/~smoser/+archive/ppa/+packages) and i will walk away for a bit and hope magic happens
[12:11] <pfarrell> hi
[12:11] <pfarrell> is it possible to sort bugs in a list by when they were reported?
[12:12] <pfarrell> that would be really useful
[12:12] <pfarrell> I'm looking at https://bugs.launchpad.net/dolfin and would like to "Order by" date, but there is no date
[12:13] <wgrant> pfarrell: Sort by Number.
[12:13] <czajkowski> pfarrell: no not by order by date, we have age and sort number
[12:13] <pfarrell> ohh!
[12:13] <pfarrell> of course
[12:13] <pfarrell> my apologies, how obvious
[12:13] <pfarrell> thanks
[12:13] <czajkowski> pfarrell: no worries
[12:14] <geser> pfarrell: click on the wheel, enable "age" and then sort by age
[12:14] <wgrant> Also Age should work, yeah, though it's not shown by default
[12:14] <pfarrell> oh, I didn't even know the wheel was clickable
[12:14] <pfarrell> I thought it was just there to look pretty
[12:14] <czajkowski> would love if that wheel was bigger or a differen colour people dont seem to notice it
[12:14] <czajkowski> surpirsed mpt_ hasnt logged a bug about it
[12:14] <czajkowski> *surprised
[12:16] <pfarrell> yeah, I was scanning for "date" and didn't find it so I thought I would complain
[12:16] <pfarrell> when someone is in a rush they're unlikely to process "ah, bug ids are issued such that if idX > idY then X is newer than Y, so if I sort by number I will sort by date"
[12:18] <pfarrell> maybe you could label it "Number/date" ?
[13:27] <TLoT> there's WAY too many timeouts... OOPS-b1ad43885c5f4c1049a04f967e4df3fb
[13:28] <TLoT> that one was on the ubuntu project page, kind of a critical page.
[14:20] <hannie> May I ask who is responsible for the msgmerge command used in LP?
[14:20] <czajkowski> hannie: what do you mean responsible?
[14:21] <hannie> who can change it to msgmerge --previous
[14:22] <hannie> I want to transfer the so called fuzzies from one version to a newer one with this command
[14:23] <czajkowski> so you want help with the command itself
[14:23] <hannie> Lokalize does this automatically, but we prefer to translate online
[14:23] <hannie> czajkowski, no, I want it changed in Launchpad
[14:24] <hannie> We keep on copying and pasting long strings to newer versions because all the fuzzies are thrown away in LP
[14:24] <czajkowski> what do you mean fuzzies?
[14:25] <hannie> a fuzzy is the translation of a msgid that has undergone a slight change (ie a comma)
[14:26] <czajkowski> sinzui: any idea where best to direct hannie to? filing a bug or a question on LP ?
[14:27]  * sinzui looks
[14:27] <hannie> czajkowski, I have tried the ubuntu-translators mailing list, but to no avail
[14:28] <hannie> It is a huge problem for translators of documentation like ubuntu-docs and ubuntu-manual
[14:28] <czajkowski> hannie: did they reply ?
[14:28] <sinzui> hannie, https://bugs.launchpad.net/launchpad/+bug/540757
[14:28] <hannie> well, sort of. The answer was that there is not enough manpower
[14:29] <czajkowski> hannie: well that's the same answer you'll get here
[14:29] <sinzui> No one is working on translations
[14:29] <sinzui> Looks like the last developers wanted to remove the feature entirely.
[14:29] <hannie> it is the making of .pot files into .po files that needs changing
[14:30] <hannie> LP is used very often for online translations
[14:31] <hannie> we translators are not happy at all with this copying and pasting for every new version of Ubuntu that is released
[14:33] <sinzui> okay, so this issue is closer to this bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/launchpad/+bug/429222
[14:33] <hannie> I'll have a look
[14:33] <sinzui> I think you want to report a new bug that you want --previous
[14:35] <sinzui> hannie, There is more than a year of critical work for the maintenance squad, and there is more than a year of high work after that. The best chance of fixing this issue is for someone with translations and programming experience to submit a patch
[14:35] <sinzui> s/patch/tested branch/
[14:37] <hannie> I am willing to do some testing, but then I need someone from LP to change the command for me
[14:37] <hannie> I do not see any sense in reporting another bug, because I do not think that will help
[14:38] <hannie> sinzui, I am aware of the loads of work that need to be done and I do appreciate it
[14:40] <sinzui> hannie, Lp cannot accept a change without a unit test. the person who makes the change also needs to know how to write the unit test to verify it works. I can make changes for you only if you can explain (probably in an email or bug) how I know It works and I did not break something else in Lp
[14:41] <hannie> sinzui, fair enough. I will do some tests first and then contact you again
[14:41] <sinzui> okay. I am sinzui in Lp and irc
[14:41] <hannie> ty for your time
[15:42] <czajkowski> OOPS-11dcf20bdf63f999b9451a5acd611f02
[16:53] <jfcaron> Is there a convenient way to get a fixed URL that always points to the latest version of a file on launchpad, e.g. for downloading with wget?
[16:54] <jfcaron> It seems my latest version urls always have a timestamp in them, or the actual revision number, so I can't reliably make a script that wgets the latest version.
[17:01] <bjf> i'm trying to look at https://launchpad.net/bugs/1052530 and i can't see it. i've asked 5 other people with more privs than i including the security team and none of them can see it as well
[17:01] <bjf> can anyone tell be what is up with that bug?
[17:02] <czajkowski> bjf: I cant see it either we can't see private bugs either
[17:03] <czajkowski> bjf: you might find someone in #ubuntu-bug
[17:03] <czajkowski> are you sure also that is the correct bug bumber
[17:04] <bjf> czajkowski: the bug # is correct
[17:04] <czajkowski> then someone from the bug squad will be able to help
[17:04] <bjf> czajkowski: and i've tried someone from the bug squad
[17:05] <bjf> czajkowski: i've tried a several people from bug squad
[17:05] <czajkowski> sinzui: thoughts?
[17:07] <sinzui> I cannot see it. bjf, how do you know about this bug? A dupe?
[17:09] <bjf> sinzui: http://people.canonical.com/~kernel/reports/1-day-new.html  it will show up in a search
[17:09] <bjf> sinzui: 4th from the top
[17:09] <sinzui> ah, if ubuntu-bugs cannot see it, then this is evil apport using Lp as a crash database. bjf, No human can see the bug. There is nothing you or any human can do
[17:10] <bjf> sinzui: i've never encountered this before, that seems quite odd
[17:11] <bjf> sinzui: that doesn't look like an apport title
[17:11] <sinzui> bjf, it is the most common reason a bug cannot be accessed.
[17:11] <sinzui> bjf, if it is not apport, then the bug was targeted to a project where other people have access
[17:14] <sinzui> bjf, this might be case were a user decided to make the bug private without giving anyone access to it...in which can the bug will never be fixed because Ubuntu does not share that data with any people
[17:15] <bjf> sinzui: and there is _no one_ that can look at the bug to see if that is truly the case and it's not an issue with LP ?
[17:15] <sinzui> No, We allow projects to choose who gets access to confidential data. Ubuntu chooses that No human gets access.
[17:15] <sinzui> They can change the rule at any time
[17:16] <sinzui> They wont until they dismantle apport or at least stop it from using Lp as a crash database.
[17:19] <sinzui> bjf, user are warned that they are going to shoot themselves in the foot. This is the text of the confirmation panel shown to users who make Ubuntu bugs private http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/1227025/
[17:20] <bjf> sinzui, ok, i guess that bug is dead to me
[17:21] <sinzui> bjf, You can ask a webops on #launchpad-ops if he can see why it is private
[17:23] <MattJ100> Does anyone know which machines architecture-independent packages are built on in PPAs?
[17:23] <MattJ100> I have dependency problems, and I'm not sure if it's an issue with my source package, or because amd64 has built but i386 hasn't
[17:24] <slank> bjf: webops here reading backscroll, but can you paraphrase your question?
[17:25] <bjf> sinzui, i can't get to https://launchpad.net/bugs/1052530
[17:25] <bjf> slank ^
[17:25] <bjf> slank, and i'd like to know why
[17:25] <slank> bjf: looking
[17:27] <sinzui> slank, if no one but the reporter is subscribed, and the bug is on Ubuntu, you should subscribe someone, maybe ubuntu-bugs so that someone can see the issue
[17:29] <slank> sinzui: ubuntu-bugs is now subscribed
[17:30] <sinzui> thanks slank
[17:30] <sinzui> bjf, sorry, you need to ask ubuntu-bugs agains
[17:33] <bjf> sinzui, slank, thanks, i'm in ubuntu-bugs
[17:35] <bjf> sinzui, if i look at the activity log for that bug, would i see if the user made it private?
[17:35] <bjf> sinzui: sorry, yes he did
[17:36] <sinzui> bjf, was the bug reported via email? I guess the bug would have been created private in that case
[17:36] <bjf> sinzui, no, looks like he marked it private on his own for some reason
[17:36] <bjf> sinzui, i'm assuming user error and adding a comment
[17:37] <sinzui> understood
[18:22] <smoser> ugh
[18:22] <smoser> The following source cannot be copied:
[18:22] <smoser>     open-iscsi 2.0.871-0ubuntu9.1~ppa2 in precise (a different source with the same version is published in the destination archive)
[18:23] <smoser> i disagree with that. the destination archive (https://launchpad.net/~maas-maintainers/+archive/maas-ephemeral-images) does not have any such package
[18:24] <smoser> anyone have a suggestion there?
[18:27] <patdk-wk> heh :)
[18:28] <patdk-wk> smoser, your going have to ping their names to get attention
[18:29] <smoser> well, i dont know who to ping.
[18:29] <smoser> this is frustrating.
[18:29] <patdk-wk> odd
[18:29] <patdk-wk> was in the topic last week
[18:29] <patdk-wk> sinzui
[18:29] <patdk-wk> can't remember the other one, started with j
[18:30] <czajkowski> smoser: I'm usually on between 9-6
[18:30] <czajkowski> after that it's maintenance team so sinzui jcsackett wallyworld wgrant and StevenK
[18:45] <smoser> anyone above able to help me?
[18:45] <smoser> i've tried the trick wgrant suggested yesterday , of copying it to a different archive (that succeeded)
[18:45] <smoser> but it still complains copyint it to where i want it to go
[18:48] <sinzui> smoser, I think you need to make a change to increment the package version so that it is clear yours is different from the one that is installed on user machines.
[18:48] <smoser> sinzui, ? its complaining about an archive copy.
[18:49] <sinzui> smoser, 2.0.871-1ubuntu9.1~ppa2  or 2.0.871-0ubuntu9.2~ppa2
[18:49] <patdk-wk> a copy isn't a change
[18:49] <sinzui> smoser, It is complaining that you might be doing a man-in-the-middle attack by provide a package with a known version, but the contents are different
[18:50] <smoser> i can do that. just sucks. as it takes an hour to get a build out.
[18:51] <sinzui> a copy is not a change. If that version (from anywhere) was ever uploaded and accepted, then no person can reuse it with different content. this is probably a naming collision
[18:52] <sinzui> Yes I sucks. I have had to make a bogus increment to a package this year just to be certain someone does not think it is the other package uploaded some where else
[18:57] <patdk-wk> that is understandable, but if it's a clone/copy, it's the same bogus package in both locations :)
[18:58] <mfisch> anyone know if there's a way to see the --fixes info in branch history for trunk after the branch was merged to trunk/
[18:58] <mfisch> ?
[18:58] <mfisch> for example, I fix a bug in my private branch, merge it to trunk, do we lose the --fixes info in the merge?
[18:59] <danilos> mfisch, nope, but you may need to pass in -n0 to bzr log
[19:00] <mfisch> -n0 helps, but bzr log doesn't seem to show --fixes info, maybe it won't in general
[19:44] <bac> benji: oh, he's talking about the charm search
[19:45] <MattJ100> To answer my own question from earlier, the architecture-independent package was built from the i386 build
[20:19] <DNS> hm amd64 are chroot error with precise only? https://launchpad.net/~dns/+archive/gnu/+build/3853503/+files/buildlog_ubuntu-precise-amd64.denemo_0.9.6%2B20120925%7Egit.dbafd55-1%7Eprecise1_CHROOTWAIT.txt.gz like https://launchpad.net/~dns/+archive/gnu/+build/3854567/+files/buildlog_ubuntu-precise-amd64.texmacs_1%3A<IP_ADDRESS>%7E20120925%7Esvn5743%7Eprecise1_CHROOTWAIT.txt.gz any1 have a clue why?
[20:20] <DNS> other builds are good, only precise and amd64
[20:21] <DNS> *only precise with amd64 not
[20:57] <geser> DNS: your libp11-kit0 (from your test ppa) breaks the update of this package (the preinst script of it)
[22:03] <DNS> thx geser
[22:08] <maxb> !ids username=lbso2jakdaw
[22:09] <maxb> ugh, incorrect network
[22:09] <TheLordOfTime> lol
[22:38] <agrif> anyone know where I can go to get help signing up for an account?
[22:38] <ebergen> anything more specific?
[22:38] <agrif> I've tried to sign up for a launchpad account 3 times now (on different days) and I never get the confirmation email.
[22:39] <agrif> I've also tried this: https://forms.canonical.com/lp-login-support/ but the page it eventually redirects me to doesn't do anything. It just sits there.
[22:52] <agrif> :(
[22:57] <czajkowski> wgrant: ^^^
[22:58] <wgrant> agrif: We don't actually run the login stuff. Can you try asking in #canonical-isd?
[22:58] <agrif> ok, thanks. I'll try there.


[00:00] <OvenWerks> pw as pa still accepts pa style profiles.
[00:13] <OvenWerks> I think that pw-jack bridging is already set up and can be done from the command line. I think that the reason it is not supported is more that there is no documentation.
[00:41] <Eickmeyer> Honestly, OvenWerks, if there's a cycle to introduce it, this would be the one.
[00:45] <OvenWerks> That thought has occured to me yes
[00:57] <OvenWerks> I had started on it but then this load of errors from tracking and GH issues got me going a different direction. The branch I was working no longer merges so I will have to start over. But first, I have some more clean up to do. I can't get rid of creating a jack client it appears because while I can get a list of ports and connections via dbus, I cannot get a real name for an alias... this
[00:58] <OvenWerks> happenss to be pretty important for ffado devices (oJack - Level 7 - Jack_status: True
[00:59] <OvenWerks> opps.. anyway in ffado system:playback_1 is an alias for:firewire_pcm:0014860268b568f1_Unknown_out
[01:01] <Eickmeyer> Yeah, that's fair. Not sure how well PW would work with FW anyhow.
[01:01] <OvenWerks> where:<PHONE_NUMBER>b568f1 is the device serial number (useful if you have two or more devices chained together) Unknown is the portname the device uses (mine doesn't)
[01:02] <OvenWerks> pw doesn't work with fw except in alsa mode... latency is too high to be usable in live mode (256/2 is the lowest)
[01:03] <OvenWerks> pw only emulates jack for alsa devices or rather only emulates the alsa backend... well if the device profiles are all set to "off" it may present a dummy device but without the ability to set up number of ports.
[01:04] <Eickmeyer> So, what if we had controls switch between different modes?
[01:05] <Eickmeyer> Like, all PW, PW + Jack, Jack + Pulse (like we have now), FFADO, etc. ?
[01:06] <OvenWerks> That is my plan... pulse-jack (for as long as pulse lasts or I get tired of it), pw only (what most people need, pw with jack as a device or pw as a desktop bridged to jack.
[01:07] <OvenWerks> So four modes
[01:07] <Eickmeyer> Awesome, we're on the same page.
[01:09] <OvenWerks> when we use pw to do the part of jack. the extra devices should allow renaming devices in pw to shorter names.
[01:10] <OvenWerks> I probably need to start over with a simple script that just does things to try them out and then over time move them into -controls
[01:11] <OvenWerks> I need to add the functionallity first before trying to change the GUI.


[00:43] <JoseGutierrez> I would like to explain how to collaborate in the project manual ubuntu, in Spanish, since I wrote to the list and I was told it was by launchpad, but still not to contribute to this great project, thanks for your timely responses.


 I have a folder in my kubuntu file manager dolphin . So I want to set up the folder in such a way that whatever edits I made to the files in the folder ( like deleting adding new files editting old ones etc) I want to upload that to Google  drive automatically
 Any suggestions
[06:53] <diogenes_> ADHIVP: https://community.kde.org/KIO_GDrive
 Thanks
[09:28] <user|39> buongiorno
[09:28] <user|39> quanta ram e requisiti hardwer richiede attualmente kubuntu?
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[11:12] <user|99> desktop background didn't changed
[13:34] <BluesKaj> Hi all
[15:44] <Guest56> hey everyone, im a newbie. testing this Kubuntu its good so far. is there a way to dload youtube videos on kubuntu?
[15:45] <mybalzitch> is youtube-dl stil a thing?
[15:45] <Guest56> just testing out all
[15:50] <diogenes_> Guest56, there are many ways.
[15:50] <Guest56> hows everyone doing
[15:51] <diogenes_> Guest56, https://www.y2mate.com/en57
[15:51] <diogenes_> just paste the url
[15:52] <Guest56> cool thanks
[15:52] <Guest56> im liking this desktop over the traditional ubuntu
[15:52] <Guest56> well the looks and feel
[15:55] <Guest56> anyone from Jamaica ?
[15:55] <diogenes_> Bob Marley
[15:56] <Guest56> yea man
[15:58] <Mekaneck> Guest56: casual talk is in #kubuntu-offtopic
[15:59] <Guest56> didnt know .. sorry
[15:59] <Mekaneck> np
[23:05] <user|98> hi folks, new user here, is there any way to upgrade to the 21.04 from 20.04 without downloading the ISO ? thanks in advance
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 Hi! I want to install kubuntu on the manjaro partitition but it seems only able to install on the full drive.. Whats the problem?