[03:09] <elpargo> Vanuatoo_, run it from a shell
[03:09] <ajehuk> mjr - gonna need a new card - - oh and well volunteered to help FernLujan out with his install :)
[03:09] <tom_> Vanuatoo_: open firefox from the console
[03:09] <nny> nibsa1242, you can always to just run the cd again and tell it to install. It will ask you if you want to reformat or even repartition the hard drive during the install process
[03:09] <scuzzlebutt> i give up, l8trz
[03:10] <tom_> imbecile: ummm does it mention anywhere a piece of hardware?
[03:10] <mjr> tom_, because the fglrx drivers should really _only_ be used if the free drivers don't support your card
[03:10] <SciOly> Flannel, yeah... I've been checking, not sure if there is some crucial step I'm missing... every package is up to date on the machine
[03:10] <fenris> bofh80: does the -new version work with the old kernel module?
[03:10] <FernLujan> tom_: that's what someone told me to do to get desktop effects working?
[03:10] <tom_> FernLujan: no dont do that
[03:10] <FernLujan> ajehuk: I'm extremely confused
[03:10] <bofh80> fenris, err, why what are you doing? heheh.
[03:10] <FernLujan> tom_: okay
[03:10] <nny> so anyone know the name of the new and improved network manager? I lost the use of connection-manager and henceforth, my wireless after upgarde
[03:10] <nibsa1242> nny: I don't have a cd yet... I'm dowloading right now. I was trying to recommended upgrade from 6.10 to 7.04 but that trashed my system
[03:10] <ajehuk> FernLujan - how so?
[03:10] <Vanuatoo_> Xchat also crashed
[03:10] <nny> nibsa1242, heh mine too
[03:10] <imbecile> tom_ not specifically.. at least i dont think so
[03:10] <PurpZeY> I am seriously consider an Ubuntu install, can someone answer a couple of quick ?s?
[03:10] <bofh80> fenris, your not booting with the latest availble kernel?
[03:10] <mjr> ajehuk, because tom is feeding him misinformation
[03:10] <Flannel> SciOly: that's very odd.  Uh, I dont know.  Alright, to humor him, go ahead and alt-f2 then in that paste `gksu "update-manager -c"`
[03:10] <Vanuatoo_> It says Segmentation fault. Core dumped
[03:10] <ajehuk> PurpZeY - go
[03:10] <cpar2> anyone out there using a Dell Latitude D600?
[03:10] <fenris> bofh80: sure i am
[03:10] <nny> nibsa1242, wait... what part does it stop at again?
[03:10] <Ax4> gogoogoggo
[03:10] <jrib> PurpZeY: just ask, if someone knows, they will try
[03:10] <Ax4> gogogo
[03:10] <Vanuatoo_> Next steps please? :)
[03:10] <Ax4> lol
[03:11] <ajehuk> mjr well that doesnt help...
[03:11] <FernLujan> ajehuk: had lots of people talking to me, now my head's everywhere and not only did I forget what I was having troubles with. I forgot everyone's advice!
[03:11] <tom_> mjr: why would he disable his 3d drivers to get compiz to work
[03:11] <nny> nibsa1242, heh i bet we both have the same issue, but i fixed min'
[03:11] <Ax4> we're all on the edge of our seats
[03:11] <nibsa1242> nny it stopped when it said there were 17min left
[03:11] <Ax4> :p
[03:11] <bofh80> fenris, lol, why you askin about the old kernel module then? :P
[03:11] <nibsa1242> nny and my computer was completely locked up
[03:11] <elpargo> nny, it should be loaded if not the util is call  network-admin
[03:11] <seph209> tom_ any ideas on what to google for to get to the audio fix sound guide? I don't know what wiki you are talking about...
[03:11] <mjr> tom_, he shouldn't. He should use the free ones that actually do support texture_from_pixmap
[03:11] <nowisn> oh crap what the hell, i got that error agian, says GRUB loading please wait..... error 17???
[03:11] <PurpZeY> Well, I've played with the live CD...and I think I am ready to "convert" but I was hoping to do a dual boot, any reason that's a bad idea?
[03:11] <tom_> imbecile: you could try passing the kernel some options
[03:11] <nibsa1242> nny I couldn't even ctrl-atl-backspace
[03:11] <tom_> seph209: i'll have a look
[03:11] <nny> nibsa1242, well, after an upgrade my hardd rive switch from hda to sda
[03:11] <nny> nibsa1242, try this first
[03:11] <tom_> mjr: ah k roger, my mistake (don't know much about ati drivers) :)
[03:11] <fenris> bofh80: "old" in the sense of "the one working with the old nvidia-glx"
[03:11] <ajehuk> mjr - you dealing with it tho? Ive been through the most of the variations if anyone gets stuck.  but then none of the drivers really are right for my card so - ah anyway who cares, I boutha third monitor so Im happy
[03:11] <Ax4> PurpZeY, no it's not a bad idea, plenty of people do it
[03:11] <nny> nibsa1242, when it load, what kernel is it trying to boot?
[03:11] <tom_> FernLujan: listen to mjr
[03:12] <SciOly> Flannel, just... "Your system is up-to-date" is all I see (and it reloads all the package info fine)
[03:12] <nny> nibsa1242,  2.6.20-15
[03:12] <nny> ?
[03:12] <PurpZeY> Ax4: Can I create a partition on my main drive or do I need a second dedicated drive?
[03:12] <FernLujan> tom_: k, ty
[03:12] <nibsa1242> nny no it tried 2.6.11
[03:12] <shadow-> anyone hear of an issue where you get a black screen with a cursor, but no way to get out?
[03:12] <tom_> seph209: ok found it
[03:12] <FernLujan> mjr: so, can you help me get my desktop effects working?
[03:12] <Ax4> PurpZeY, either or, you can setup a new partition on your current drive, or use a second physical drive
[03:12] <bofh80> fenris, oh i see yes, the nvidia-glx module is really up to gf3 and gf4 cards, everything above that is nvidia-glx-new i believe
[03:12] <nny> nibsa1242, you should be able to boot the old kernel or a new one
[03:12] <teem0> When  using the kboot and the livecd desktop version (PS3 Port) can I type something at the kboot prompt instead of just pressing enter to start the installer instead of loading the live session.
[03:12] <mtm8> Would anyone be able to help me figure out the d-i partman-auto/expert_recipe_file string /hd-media/recipe line that comes standard with the alternate CD installer for remastering purposes?
[03:12] <mtm8> 1) Where is /hd-media 2) How can I make a partition scheme as follows?: /dev/sda1: 128 M for /boot (ext2) with no disk space allocated for the super user with noauto,noatime options for mounting, /dev/sda2: 40 G for / with 3 percent disk space allocated for the super user and defaults,errors=remount-ro options for mounting, /dev/sda3: 11 G extended partition, /dev/sda4: an NTFS partition that isn't mounted, /dev/sda5: 1 G swap, /dev/sda6: 10 G (ext3) partition with
[03:12] <william> How do I connect to a PAN using bluetooth?
[03:12] <bofh80> fenris, they are both esigned to work with the same kernel modules etc
[03:12] <tom_> seph209: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=205449
[03:12] <nny> nibsa1242, even if it was 50% into an upgrade, it doesnt switch packages out till the end
[03:13] <nibsa1242> nny I also tried 2.6.10 -didn't even get to a command line; and 2.6.11-recovery got me to the (initramfs) line
[03:13] <mjr> FernLujan, first uninstall the proprietary driver, then wait a bit, I'll put up the basic things to check for in /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[03:13] <tom_> ok guys i'm rebooting my upgrade just finished
[03:13] <PurpZeY> Ax4: Understandbly there is SOME risk involved in creating the partition and all...Is there a serious risk of losing the data on the older partition in order to do that?
[03:13] <Flannel> SciOly: right.  Well, I don't know what it might be.  From what I understand, the repositories are all dying right now anyway.  So waiting might not be a bad thing.  It ought to work itself out.  But I don't know why it isn't working.
[03:13] <seph209> aw shoot, thats the same one that Hubris suggested.
[03:13] <fenris> bofh80: ok... so i just have to wait for the german mirror... seems to be *a bit* overloaded
[03:13] <nibsa1242> nny 2.6.10 and 2.6.11 are the only options in grub
[03:13] <cohete> Is there are way to upgrade from 6.10 to 7.04 using the CD for packages, without having to do a full reinstallation?
[03:13] <nny> nibsa1242, is 2.6.20 in your grub list?
[03:13] <nibsa1242> nny negative
[03:13] <seph209> tom_: Ok, I'll really read this through carefully, but I might have more questions. Thanks!
[03:13] <FernLujan> ok
[03:13] <Ax4> PurpZeY, there is no risk if the drive is health and the re-partition is done correctly
[03:14] <Ax4> PurpZeY, healthy*
[03:14] <bofh80> fenris, LOL i'm not surprised. they haven't released any updates yet, cos they can't deal with the weight heheheh
[03:14] <cpar2> Dell Latitude D600 gets a white bar on the right 1/4 of the screen, and no toolbars after enabling the new graphics hotness - how do I undo it now?
[03:14] <SciOly> Flannel, hm...cause I tried last night too and I just figured it wasn't working because they were being hammered, but now I'm not sure... do you need anything special in the sources.list besides edgy-updates?
[03:14] <tbuss> I've got an apache password issue. I setup a username:/password for my site, atho works but the username:/password that works for autho is no the same as what is in /home/secure/apasswords
[03:14] <nny> nibsa1242, hrrm. have you tried booting it with quit mode and splash turned off to see exactly where it stops?
[03:14] <rbil> cohete: if you insert the alternate CD in your drive when running Edgy, you will be given the option to upgrade from that CD
[03:14] <Ax4> PurpZeY, wouldn't hurt to backup your data though if you can, just in case their's user error on your part :p
[03:14] <FernLujan> mjr: Unistalled drivers
[03:14] <nny> nibsa1242, you can do this by editing grub (hit e at boot) and remove those two worde from the kernel line
[03:14] <cohete> rbil, i have the desktop cd
[03:14] <nibsa1242> nny I have 2.6.17-11-generic and 2.6.17-10-generic
[03:15] <rbil> cohete: need alternate
[03:15] <ajehuk> tbuss - apache issue ? you ? never..
[03:15] <FernLujan> mjr: I Need a PC restart though
[03:15] <cohete> shoot
[03:15] <nibsa1242> nny attempting
[03:15] <fenris> ok, .nl is working
[03:15] <cohete> rbil, thanks
[03:15] <nny> nibsa1242, see if you can get an exact point where the kernel bites it
[03:15] <rolando> my mouse is not working in ubutu 7.04, but well with 6.10, i did sudo dpkg reconfigure xserver-xorg and nothing happend with ImPS/2 and ExplorerPS/2, any ideas?????please, Thanks
[03:15] <Flannel> SciOly: No.  edgy and edgy-updates should be it.
[03:15] <TomBug> anyone know how i can set up my sound on 7.04 for 5.1, i have sb live! 24bit?
[03:15] <tbuss> ajehuk: hey whats up, still at it
[03:15] <mjr> FernLujan, yes, that's probably best to make sure there's no remains in your memory of the fglrx driver
[03:15] <rbil> cohete: get it with bittorrent, should take less than 1.5 hours
[03:15] <FernLujan> mjr: well, I'll be right back then
[03:15] <cpar2> Dell Latitude gets a white bar on the right 1/4 of the screen, and no toolbars after enabling the new graphics hotness - how do I undo it now?
[03:15] <cohete> rbil, pretty sure my school network is throttling bt traffic
[03:15] <nibsa1242> nny anyhow my hd was always sda...
[03:16] <nny> nibsa1242, usually you can see what its angry about..
[03:16] <ajehuk> tbuss - I assume you are using .htaccess for pawwording?
[03:16] <nibsa1242> nny after editing that my computer rebooted
[03:16] <Ax4> anyone know how to apply a GDM theme i got from gnome-looks.org? came packaged in a .tar.gz and has a .desktop file and .xml file among other png files within it..... ayudame!
[03:16] <fenris> bofh80: thx, ill try... x restart, brb
[03:16] <nny> nibsa1242, ?
[03:16] <PurpZeY> Ax4: I'm with you there...=)...Three last simple things...1) How can I avoid the situation of having my install getting messed up..during install...then not being able to get at either partition for some reason...2) How do I get started?...3) Will the install/partition process setup my dual-boot or is there some specific way I have to do that?
[03:16] <nibsa1242> nny it didn't boot, it acted as if I soft reset
[03:16] <nny> nibsa1242, press e at grub, and then hit enter to save changes, b to boot the kernel
[03:16] <vustar> !installation | PurpZeY
[03:16] <ubotu> PurpZeY: Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues
[03:16] <shadow-> anyone know why i get a black screen with a cursor in gnome sometimes.. and no way to get out? usually after switching from text console back to X, or if the monitor shuts off from inactivity
[03:16] <PurpZeY> Thanks.
[03:16] <shadow-> i'm using the nvidia driver
[03:17] <cpar2> Dell Latitude D600 gets a white bar on the right 1/4 of the screen, and no toolbars after enabling the new graphics hotness - how do I undo it now?
[03:17] <nibsa1242> nny ok... now its attempting to boot
[03:17] <nny> nibsa1242, cool
[03:17] <SciOly> Flannel, can I check to see what specific package should be downloaded from the repositories to signal an dist-upgrade is being received?
[03:17] <nibsa1242> nny it appears to be having problems at Mounting root file system
[03:17] <william> !bluetooth
[03:17] <ubotu> For instructions on how to set up bluetooth, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BluetoothSetup
[03:17] <FernLujan> mjr: back
[03:17] <nibsa1242> nny it says "Being: Waiting for root file system... ..." and its hanging there
[03:18] <nny> elpargo, isn't there supposed to be a new wireless network manager? I am looking for something to replace connection-manager
[03:18] <Flannel> SciOly: er, what?
[03:18] <Ax4> PurpZeY, https://help.ubuntu.com/6.10/ubuntu/installation-guide/i386/preparing.html
[03:18] <thrice`> is the torrent active for anyone ?
[03:18] <nny> nibsa1242, ok
[03:18] <elpargo> SciOly, Flannel I remember there is a command that tell you the active version of ubuntu can't recall it's name
[03:18] <bofh80> ok, i'm getting worried now, that's 2 people i've attemped to help, with quite simple problems, and they don't return, i'm not so sure i'm giving out sound advice now :S
[03:18] <mjr> FernLujan, ok, just a moment
[03:18] <SciOly> Flannel, well, update-manager must be signalled by some package that it can do a full dist-upgrade?
[03:18] <elpargo> nny, yes its call "network manager"
[03:18] <mjr> FernLujan, do run "glxinfo | grep -i direct" though
[03:18] <SciOly> elpargo, I think cat /etc/issue will tell you what you're running, but that's not what I meant
[03:19] <nny> elpargo, thank you
[03:19] <nibsa1242> nny still hanging at waiting for root file system
[03:19] <Ax4> bofh80, don't get discouraged ^_^ the community thanks you for your input
[03:19] <elpargo> nny, the command to run it is network-admin
[03:19] <nny> nibsa1242, yeah it will stay there
[03:19] <ajehuk> bofh80 - if they didnt come back - assume whatever you said worked.  that makes you a good person.. :)
[03:19] <Flannel> SciOly: Hmm.  Im not actually sure how that works.
[03:19] <nny> nibsa1242, i noticed that after i upgraded, i couldn't load a prior kernel
[03:19] <bofh80> hhehehheh :/
[03:19] <Ax4> bofh80, agree with ajehuk
[03:19] <Ax4> :p
[03:19] <FernLujan> mjr: so "glxinfo | grep -i direct" through console?
[03:19] <elpargo> SciOly, Flannel no there is a direct one Flannel may remember that way you will know if it already upgraded or not
[03:19] <nny> nibsa1242, my 2.6.10 doesnt work
[03:19] <robbie_crash> elpargo, no luck on the bug tracker, and reinstalling dbus didn't help
[03:19] <mjr> FernLujan, through a terminal window
[03:20] <TomBug> anyone know how i can set up my sound on feisty for 5.1, i have sb live! 24bit?
[03:20] <rolando> my mouse is not working in ubutu 7.04, but well with 6.10, i did sudo dpkg reconfigure xserver-xorg and nothing happend with ImPS/2 and ExplorerPS/2, any ideas?????please, Thanks
[03:20] <mjr> FernLujan, just to check that you have acceleration with the free driver working
[03:20] <tbuss> ajehuk: okay, well I made the changes in the config file Directory <Directory /var/www/>
[03:20] <FernLujan> mjr: yeah, I did that. uhh, Failed request: BadALlox
[03:20] <imbecile> what is a crc error?
[03:20] <nibsa1242> nny well consdiering that I don't have anything other then 2.6.10 and 2.6.11 if I can't load a prior kernel I guess I'm kinda screwed then
[03:20] <ajehuk> tbuss - OK so far..
[03:20] <Rictoo> :S
[03:20] <nny> nibsa1242,  i am still ponder why
[03:20] <bofh80> i'll just pretend he's playing with his new 3d desktop instead
[03:20] <Rictoo> I just loaded up Feisty and everything seems (literally) 75% faster
[03:20] <nny> nibsa1242, yeah a live cd even if you dont do any install would help
[03:20] <Rictoo> is this normal?
[03:20] <elpargo> SciOly, python -v if it's 2.5 then you are already at 7.04
[03:20] <FernLujan> mjr: just like 5-6 lines of error, not sur eif I should paste them, don't want to spam
[03:20] <cpar2> can someone tell me the command to get the new graphics options to open up in Feisty?
[03:20] <ajehuk> tbuss - is this .htacces we are talking about or something more exotic?
[03:20] <cpar2> I have no toolbar...
[03:20] <nny> nibsa1242, you could mount your root partition and "Chroot" into it
[03:20] <cpar2> :)
[03:21] <spaznick> anyone know how i could get my mouse and keybord to work correctly with ubuntu 6.10 on panasonic labtop?
[03:21] <tbuss> ajehuk: used htpasswd -c /home/secure/apasswords to set user:/encryptedpassword
[03:21] <ajehuk> spaznick - what is going wrong?
[03:21] <Whiz2> Help! Someone advised yesterday that i should install exim for my mail server, but they didn't tell me how to access the server to send or receive mail (i login to the TTY service, and it tells me i have mail) I'm totally new at this
[03:21] <SciOly> nope
[03:21] <nny> nibsa1242, at that point you could do an apt-get upgrade and see what crappens
[03:21] <m0se5> spaznick: look in /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[03:21] <nny> nibsa1242, well.. is it a real PIA to have to reinstall?
[03:21] <SciOly> elpargo, nope... lots of libs then 2.4.4c1
[03:21] <ajehuk> tbuss - hmmm OK letme just check that
[03:21] <nibsa1242> nny, now it says "ALERT! /dev/sda5 does not exist. Dropping to a shell!" and then "BusyBox v1.1.3 (Debian 1:1.1.3-2ubuntu3) Built-in shell (ash) and some other stuff
[03:21] <nny> nibsa1242, hah
[03:21] <spaznick> mousepad is grabbing everything when i try to goto the console like it said to do in the forum the letters dont all work e. i get 6 for o
[03:22] <tbuss> ajehuk: ok
[03:22] <nny> nibsa1242, well
[03:22] <elpargo> SciOly, umm then your probably half way thru
[03:22] <bofh80> Whiz2, that's quite amusing :) musta been a real debian enthusiast :D
[03:22] <nibsa1242> nny its not too much of a PITA, just annoying to have to wait for the CD download
[03:22] <nny> nibsa1242, what does it say above that, for the other devices
[03:22] <andytayloruk> hi
[03:22] <Ax4> rolando, what kinda mouse is it?
[03:22] <nny> nibsa1242, it should say cd rom = /dev/foo etc
[03:22] <quinn> I was just trying to do an edgy->feisty upgrade, and i had some network trouble when it was apt-get updating, and now update-manager doesn't show the Feisty upgrade option anymore. Has anyone else heardof this happening?
[03:22] <andytayloruk> i just upgraded to ubuntu 7.04, and my internet connection is incredibly slow. I'm running a speedtouch 330 modem
[03:22] <spaznick> mousepad on my labtop?
[03:22] <nibsa1242> nny it doesn't say anything thing about cd rom = anything
[03:22] <bofh80> Whiz2, is the exim server on your network, on your own machine?
[03:22] <elpargo> SciOly, could you check /etc/apt/source.lst does it shows 7.04 repos?
[03:22] <Whiz2> bofh80: they were in #php and I was asking them about mail servers. I'm running a dapper release of kubuntu.
[03:22] <fenris> bofh80: ok, now i am running on the -new version... but frames and gnome-terminal-content are still missing
[03:23] <FernLujan> mjr: you get my message?
[03:23] <rolando> Ax4 is a PS/2
[03:23] <ajehuk> tbuss  OK I'm with you.
[03:23] <Ax4> andytayloruk, connectivity to ubuntu repos or just in general
[03:23] <andytayloruk> in general
[03:23] <bofh80> fenris, hmm, did you restart X or the PC ?
[03:23] <cables> fenris, are you running beryl?
[03:23] <andytayloruk> browsing is incredibly slow
[03:23] <andytayloruk> just hung for minutes last time
[03:23] <tbuss> ajehuk: ok....
[03:23] <SciOly> elpargo, no edgy repositories
[03:23] <andytayloruk> irc timed out
[03:23] <cables> fenris, sometimes the driver update doesn't fix it, but there's a beryl option that will.
[03:23] <Ax4> rolando, there's been reported kernel module problems for ps/2 mice under feisty 7.0.4
[03:23] <andytayloruk> worked perfectly in 6.10
[03:23] <Whiz2> bofh80 it's on a machine that i own, but i want to access it from another computer on my network. That machine is a dedicated web server (email was installed for the sole purpose of PHP mail)
[03:23] <Ax4> rolando, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/108350
[03:23] <neilthereildeil> hey all
[03:23] <Flannel> SciOly: There doesn't seem to be any mention of Feisty not being offered as a bug report.
[03:24] <SciOly> elpargo, err... no 7.04, but edgy respositories
[03:24] <neilthereildeil> i need help with ubuntu
[03:24] <rolando> Ax4 ... ooooohhhh
[03:24] <fenris> bofh80: i had to restart the system, just restarting x didnt work. he complained about wrong module version
[03:24] <elpargo> SciOly, ahh so something is wrong there. update-manager -c did anything?
[03:24] <neilthereildeil> how can i enable root?
[03:24] <mjr> FernLujan, did you notice my message that you should send me the errors?
[03:24] <cables> !root | neilthereildeil
[03:24] <ubotu> neilthereildeil: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[03:24] <Flannel> neilthereildeil: You don't need to
[03:24] <elpargo> SciOly, but the edgy ones are commented?
[03:24] <SciOly> elpargo, update-manager -c checked everything but gave no button
[03:24] <neilthereildeil> i need it
[03:24] <rolando> Ax4 ... thaaaaanksssss !!!!
[03:24] <Ax4> rolando, it's unconfirmed at this time, but if you can contribute to the bug report, the community thanks you :-)
[03:24] <neilthereildeil> i hate typing sudo all the time
[03:24] <bofh80> fenris, oh :) well ok. err i'm not sure :) but at least your using the correct driver now :)
[03:24] <cables> neilthereildeil, you don't have to
[03:24] <SciOly> elpargo, no... the edgy ones are present, it doesn't say in the directions to comment the edgy ones and add feisty ones...
[03:24] <fenris> cables: i just activated those "desktop effects" in the preferences menu, i suppose it is compiz
[03:24] <neilthereildeil> i do
[03:24] <cables> neilthereildeil, just run sudo -i and you'll get a root terminal
[03:24] <neilthereildeil> for network stuff etc
[03:24] <nibsa1242> nny it says something about my keyboard, the cpuindex, thermal zone and the ACPI fan
[03:24] <Flannel> neilthereildeil: If you're doing a bunch of stuff, use `sudo -i` to open a terminal
[03:24] <cables> neilthereildeil, look what i typed above
[03:24] <tbuss> ajehuk: the entry in /home/secure/apasswords is family:/mQstQkadCZ.o not what I declared earlier, however, I'm only able to access site with family:/encryptedpassword
[03:24] <SciOly> Flannel, yeah... I didn't it mentioned either or on ubuntuforums.com
[03:24] <thrice`> is the torrent for feisty working for anyone ?
[03:24] <FernLujan> mjr: k, sent you the errors
[03:24] <cpar2> can someone offer me some simple help in Feisty - what is the command to get to the new "Desktop Effects"?
[03:24] <FernLujan> mjr: JUST Noticed, sorry
[03:25] <PurpZeY> Persuant to the recent Digg article, is it difficult to access NTFS/Windows partitions from Ubuntu?
[03:25] <cables> fenris, it's easily fixable with beryl.
[03:25] <cables> PurpZeY, read the article, it's easy.
[03:25] <elpargo> SciOly, no update-manager should take care of that for you, I'll suggest you comment out the edgy ones and try again.
[03:25] <rolando> Ax4 ... ok thanks
[03:25] <cpar2> fenris - it is compiz, however they are going to be merging with beryl shortly
[03:25] <moDumass> hmm, i installed some nvidia packages and it seems that my nvidia drivers were uninstalled how would i go about reinstalling them?
[03:25] <cpar2> go Novell
[03:25] <Ax4> rolando, look around the ubuntu forums as well
[03:25] <mjr> FernLujan, others interested, anyway, my checklist for working Desktop Effects with the free radeon driver, hope it helps: http://mjr.iki.fi/tmp/xorg-checklist
[03:25] <moDumass> dont really know how i did this
[03:25] <spaznick> i cant even get the pointer back to the application section again to open terminal
[03:25] <Ax4> rolando, might find some workarounds from other users
[03:25] <Flannel> elpargo: SciOly: commenting edgy repositories won't help.
[03:25] <andytayloruk> any idea ax4?
[03:25] <robbie_crash> PurpZeY, no, it's only write support that's iffy
[03:25] <bofh80> Whiz2, i was not aware exim had a PHP interface, are you using SquirelMail or something similar?
[03:25] <mjr> FernLujan, you didn't
[03:25] <fenris> if switching from compiz to beryl is straightforward i would be happy with beryl
[03:25] <mtm8> Does anyone know how to setup a preseed file for a remastered alternate CD so that it partitions in the following manner?
[03:25] <cables> fenris, it's very straightforward
[03:25] <Ax4> andytayloruk, sorry im helping too many people at once heh
[03:25] <mtm8> /dev/sda1: 128 M (ext2) mounted as /boot with 0% reserved for superuser and noauto,noatime mount options; /dev/sda2: 40 G (ext3) mounted as / with 3% reserved for superuser and defaults,errors=remount-ro mount options; /dev/sda3: 11 G extended partition; /dev/sda4: NTFS partition, not mounted; /dev/sda5: 1 G for swap; /dev/sda6: 10 G (ext3) mounted as /home/DOMAIN with 0% reserved for superuser and defaults,grpquota mount options
[03:25] <rolando> Ax4 .... i am searching .....
[03:25] <tbuss> ajehuk: I would like to find out how I can locate the file that is storing family:/encryptedpassword as I have no idea if it is protected or not
[03:25] <andytayloruk> ok :)
[03:25] <fenris> cables: is there some howto somewhere?
[03:26] <cables> fenris, there's no need
[03:26] <nibsa1242> nny I could use an Edgy live cd... but I won't have a fiesty one for probably 6+ hours since I'm stuck dling both the live cd and the alternate install since my machine is a victim of bug 89853
[03:26] <Flannel> SciOly: suggest you file a bug report against update-manager, in launchpad.  Mention you do have 0.45.2 and edgy and edgy-updates.  They'll know how to workaround and/or fix it and stuff
[03:26] <elpargo> Flannel, aren't they stoping the 7.04 from loading?
[03:26] <TomBug> anyone know how i can set up my sound on feisty for 5.1, i have sb live! 24bit?
[03:26] <fenris> hm, just "apt-get install beryl" or what? :)
[03:26] <cables> fenris, just open a terminal and run "sudo aptitude install beryl-ubuntu"
[03:26] <Flannel> elpargo: no.
[03:26] <fenris> ok
[03:26] <FernLujan> mjr: did you close the window?
[03:26] <hector> i have a problem with compiz, when i switch to it it doesn't show the windows title
[03:26] <nibsa1242> wow all of a sudden I'm lagging
[03:26] <cpar2> Can someone offer me some simple help in Feisty - what is the command to get to the new "Desktop Effects"?
[03:26] <elpargo> Flannel, they should clover somehow...
[03:26] <g35> hello anyone here have a mobile intel 945g chipset?
[03:26] <mjr> FernLujan, no
[03:26] <SciOly> Flannel, elpargo, I found an old sources.list.distUpgrade file from when I did Dapper to Edgy, I'm renaming that guy and then running update-manager again
[03:26] <FernLujan> mjr: I pasted the things
[03:26] <nny> nibsa1242, need to log brb
[03:26] <FernLujan> should I paste again?
[03:26] <cables> fenris, actually hold on
[03:26] <mjr> FernLujan, yes
[03:26] <nowisn> help please grub bootdisk says error 18 selected cylinder exceeds maximum supported by bios???
[03:26] <elpargo> SciOly, no
[03:26] <cables> fenris, type sudo aptitude install beryl-ubuntu emerald
[03:27] <Flannel> SciOly: I'd still file a bug, since you're not the only one who this has happened to
[03:27] <bofh80> hector, what video card do you have? :)
[03:27] <shoot^> guys, just fired up gnome phone manager. i have my phone connected to my comp via. usb. how do i find which port my phone is connected to?
[03:27] <SciOly> Flannel, okay, thanks, I'm trying now
[03:27] <fenris> cables: that was close... i was just hitting enter ;)
[03:27] <SciOly> elpargo, eh?
[03:27] <moDumass> is ok, i googled it
[03:27] <Whiz2> bofh80: the PHP mail is not part of exim. it's part of a forum I have on my server that has PHP pages. The forum includes a PHP mail interface.
[03:27] <hector> bofh80, nvidia
[03:27] <cables> fenris, it wouldn't matter, it would just take a little more time :)
[03:27] <nrl> ye
[03:27] <bofh80> hector, model?
[03:27] <Kakurady> I installed some packages from feisty-proposed. How can I undo it?
[03:27] <elpargo> SciOly, that file has the places to get packages from if you use a very old one you will be telling your system to go back to that state.
[03:28] <nibsa1242> nny thats fine I'm experiencing lag >10s right now ayway
[03:28] <Ax4> andytayloruk, sudo ethtool <network device> && ifconfig -a
[03:28] <TomBug> anyone know how i can set up my sound on feisty for 5.1, i have sb live! 24bit?
[03:28] <Flannel> Kakurady: just remove them with your package manager
[03:28] <bofh80> Whiz2, ah cool, so the interface has an admin side that wants maybe a pop3 address ?
[03:28] <tbuss> ajehuk: excellent point,
[03:28] <FernLujan> mjr: sent again
[03:28] <andytayloruk> Ax4: I'm not in linux at the moment. What does that command do?
[03:28] <g35> how can i download the updated video drivers for my intel 945gm chipset?
[03:28] <SciOly> elpargo, I just meant that I renamed it to some backup to see if it helped, but it actually didn't
[03:28] <hector> bofh80, GeForce Go 6150
[03:28] <elpargo> SciOly, Flannel is right it seems to be a more general thing
[03:28] <Kakurady> Flannel: But I need to know what are they first...
[03:28] <cpar2> What is the command to get to the new "Desktop Effects"?  They hosed my graphics and now I have no toolbar - Anyone
[03:28] <Ax4> andytayloruk, ethtool displays network card settings for the specified device, ifconfig reports errors and collisions associated with data transfer
[03:28] <fenris> cables: ok... and now? just restart x?
[03:29] <spaznick> hey i actually made it to the terminal is there anything i can do to fix this mouse problem? o and the keyboard?
[03:29] <cables> fenris, no need
[03:29] <elpargo> cpar2, it's under system preferences
[03:29] <mjr> FernLujan, oh right, messaging is disabled for non-registered users
[03:29] <andytayloruk> hm ok
[03:29] <hector> bofh80, I alreary configured the drivers for the graphic card
[03:29] <cables> fenris, hit alt-f2 and type beryl-manager
[03:29] <elpargo> cpar2, but it's not the full package :)
[03:29] <Rictoo> where is xorg.conf again? :S
[03:29] <Ax4> andytayloruk, ifconfig is also used for configuration
[03:29] <cables> Rictoo, /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[03:29] <Flannel> Kakurady: Ah.  Uh, hmm.  I agree.  Are they... newer vrsions? or different packages? or what?
[03:29] <ajehuk> tbuss - in either case there should be a .htaccess file (note its hidden hence the . ) that should point at what password file it is using... i.e. AuthUserFile /usr/local/somewhere/safe/.htpasswd
[03:29] <Ax4> Rictoo, /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[03:29] <Rictoo> thanks <3
[03:29] <cpar2> elpargo - I have no Toolbar, so no System|Preferences
[03:29] <Rictoo> thanks <3
[03:29] <elpargo> Rictoo, find / -name xorg.conf
[03:29] <Ax4> lol
[03:29] <cpar2> can you find the actual tool name
[03:29] <cables> cpar2, I'll help you, hold on a sec
[03:29] <Generation> Hey guys how it going , I got a question, how do I reinstall ubuntu and not lose what I have in it,
[03:29] <Ax4> or 'whereis xorg.conf'
[03:29] <Whiz2> bofh80: it has the option to send mail using PHP, or SMTP. I'm currently set to use an external SMTP, but wanted to have it use the server as it's sender instead of my ISP. The interface doesn't have the capability to get mail from the server.. only to send using it.
[03:29] <elpargo> cpar2, run nautilus
[03:29] <cables> cpar2, doing that now
[03:29] <fenris> cables: ok, windows are wobbling.... but still without frames :/
[03:30] <Generation> I did something and cannot get things back the way it was
[03:30] <hector> bofh80, i tried beryl also but it doesn't show the windows title section either
[03:30] <Flannel> Generation: What do you mean?  Dont want to lose anything?  what do you mean by reinstall?
[03:30] <Ax4> actually that'll report /usr/lib so don't use whereis :p
[03:30] <Kakurady> Flannel: newer versions proposed to be updated later...
[03:30] <cables> fenris, do you see a crystal-like icon in your notification area?
[03:30] <ajehuk> tbuss - to test if that is the asswd file in use - you could try just deleting the users line (or better copying it somewhere) saving it and testing the authentication.
[03:30] <mjr> FernLujan, anyway, I gotta be going to bed soon, check the http://mjr.iki.fi/tmp/xorg-checklist , and after that it is simply an issue of getting the accelerated DRI driver to work at all; /var/log/Xorg.0.log should give you and/or any helpful party here some pointers
[03:30] <FernLujan> mjr: oh...
[03:30] <elpargo> fenris, yes that happens here too, their generic isn't that great :)
[03:30] <cpar2> thanks cables
[03:30] <M4ri00sh> cpar2: System --> Preferences --> Desktop Effects
[03:30] <fenris> cables: ack
[03:30] <cpar2> so simple, but no reference system
[03:30] <cables> fenris, did you run beryl-manager?
[03:30] <cpar2> :)
[03:30] <robbie_crash> After upgrading to Feisty one of my hard drives will not show up anywhere once ubuntu loads. It's not a hardware problem as I've got another drive on the same cable on the same controller plugged in and the other drive shows up, as does the first drive if I switch its position on the cable. It;s not just that end of the cable either, as if I only have on drive plugged in, it shows up on either end of the cable. It's only when t
[03:30] <robbie_crash> wo drives are on the same cable that one does not show up. Both are in fstab properly, and both worked perfectly before upgrading from edgy. I've reinstalled dbus, re-written them into my fstab, and remounted a bunch.
[03:30] <FernLujan> mjr: wait, how do I get to xorg.conf?
[03:30] <elpargo> cpar2, then get it ...
[03:30] <FernLujan> mjr: and how do I know where to write all those things?
[03:30] <elpargo> cpar2, I already told you how to get the toolbar back
[03:30] <bofh80> hector, cool, then you want maybe to look at cables posts, he suggests, trying beryl instead ""sudo aptitude install beryl-ubuntu"
[03:31] <bofh80> hector, oh
[03:31] <bofh80> :S
[03:31] <ajehuk> robbie_crash - ar the jumpers on the drives set correclty for maste & slave?
[03:31] <fenris> cables: yes, i did
[03:31] <Generation> Flannel, I mean that I screwed something up, so I want to install the disk again, but not lose all my info that i have downloaded
[03:31] <elpargo> cpar2, desktop-effects
[03:31] <lordhelmet> hey does anybody have any ideas to make the shutdown/restart options appear on the kde menu when using gdm? they worked for me in edgy, but after the upgrade to feisty they went away
[03:31] <neilthereildeil> what if i set the root password while suoed in with "sudo -i"
[03:31] <Kakurady> FernLujan: sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.comf
[03:31] <neilthereildeil> ?
[03:31] <cables> fenris, the icon isn't there? weird...
[03:31] <FernLujan> kakurady: ty
[03:31] <TomBug> anyone know how i can set up my sound on feisty for 5.1, i have sb live! 24bit?
[03:31] <fenris> cables: i meant, it IS there
[03:31] <mjr> FernLujan, sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[03:31] <nibsa1242> robbie_crash some people had issues after upgrading with drives being changed from hdx to sdx
[03:31] <cables> cpar2, it looks like it's desktop effects
[03:31] <ajehuk> neilthereildeil - then your root account is active
[03:31] <Flannel> neilthereildeil: You don't need/want to set the root password.
[03:31] <Kakurady> Ha, too late!
[03:31] <cables> fenris, oh, ok :)
[03:31] <rbil> fenris: in xorg.conf do you have a line like this ... Option         "AddARGBGLXVisuals"          "true"
[03:31] <robbie_crash> ajehuk, yes. I've set them both ways
[03:31] <neilthereildeil> ok
[03:31] <Flannel> Kakurady: oh... fun.  Uh, I dont think there's a single command, you'll have to do some grepping and stuff.  You'll be using apt-cache stuff (apt-cache policy) and dpkg and stuff, I guess.
[03:31] <FernLujan> mjr: where do I write these things?
[03:31] <bofh80> fenris, hector i have some extra lines in my /etc/X11/xorg.conf file, will dig them up
[03:31] <elpargo> cpar2, cables  desktop-effects
[03:32] <tbuss> ajehuk: okay, I think you right on earlier :)
[03:32] <cables> fenris, right click, go to Advanced Options > Rendering Platform > AIGLX
[03:32] <Kakurady> Flannel, thanks.
[03:32] <ajehuk> robbie_crash - hmm best bet is to look at what nibsa1242 said..
[03:32] <robbie_crash> nibsa1242, it looks like they've been changed to sdx, but they're in fstab with uuid, not /dev/whatever
[03:32] <cables> fenris, it's something like that
[03:32] <Flannel> Kakurady: and then once youve got a list of packages, you'll pin them back to their feisty versions
[03:32] <hector> bofh80, ok
[03:32] <Flannel> !pinning | Kakurady
[03:32] <ubotu> Kakurady: pinning is an advanced feature that APT can use to prefer particular packages over others. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PinningHowto
[03:32] <nowisn> help please grub bootdisk says error 18 selected cylinder exceeds maximum supported by bios???
[03:32] <Whiz2> bofh80: did you get my reply?
[03:32] <mjr> FernLujan, in the appropriately named sections; section Extensions might be missing, in which case just write it there
[03:32] <cables> hector, are you having problems with black/blank windows?
[03:32] <neilthereildeil> also, whenever i try to connect to a wireless network from the command line, it have to startx and go to the taskbar and tell it which network to connect to
[03:32] <robbie_crash> nibsa1242, and I've made sure the uuid's are the same each time I had one or the other drive load in
[03:32] <SciOly> elpargo, Flannel, I changed my apt server to the general US one from the official ubuntu one and 13 assorted updates came up in update-amanger, they're installing now and I'll try again after this for a dist upgrade button
[03:32] <neilthereildeil> how cani  avoid that?
[03:32] <FernLujan> mjr: and after I do this it should work?
[03:32] <tbuss> ajehuk: feel free to check the site out when you have time
[03:32] <fenris> cables: ok... but still no frames
[03:32] <hector> cables, no
[03:32] <neilthereildeil> i use iwconfig from cm line
[03:33] <cables> neilthereildeil, go to System>Administration>Networking and disable roaming mode for that adapter
[03:33] <emet> Will Duke Nukem Forever run on Ubuntu?
[03:33] <Flannel> SciOly: I can't imagine that'd be it.  But, we'll see I guess
[03:33] <nibsa1242> robbie_crash I've never used uuid's like that so I wouldn't know
[03:33] <cables> fenris, ok, right click on the icon, go to Select Window Decorator, and tell me what options you see.
[03:33] <neilthereildeil> and it wont work until i go to the program in thegnome toolbar and set the network name
[03:33] <jrsims> hey, anyone have a GOOD torrent link for feisty? I can't wait 15 hours to download.
[03:33] <lordhelmet> emet: totally....vaporware runs on everything
[03:33] <rbil> fenris: in xorg.conf do you have a line like this ... Option         "AddARGBGLXVisuals"          "true"
[03:33] <TomBug> anyone know how i can set up my sound on feisty for 5.1, i have sb live! 24bit?
[03:33] <mjr> FernLujan, as I said, you seem to have some issue with acceleration working at all. You need to resolve that. I somewhat suspect that you may still have traces of fglrx on your system, in which case "sudo apt-get remove .*fglrx.*" should do the trick, but there may be something else wrong too
[03:33] <emet> I heard they are using to use OpenGL 3.0 for the engine
[03:33] <cables> rbil, I was told to do the AIGLX thing, and it worked.
[03:33] <SciOly> Flannel, well at least it's pulling update-manager 0.45.3 (I had 0.45.2)
[03:33] <emet> that's cool
[03:34] <Ax4> !repeat | TomBug
[03:34] <lordhelmet> hey does anybody have any ideas to make the shutdown/restart options appear on the kde menu when using gdm? they worked for me in edgy, but after the upgrade to feisty they went away
[03:34] <ubotu> TomBug: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[03:34] <fenris> rbil: no
[03:34] <lggu-lu> exit
[03:34] <lggu-lu> exit
[03:34] <Flannel> SciOly: interesting.  Alright, maybe the website needs updating
[03:34] <neilthereildeil> how can i unset roaming for the wireless card?\
[03:34] <fitawav> how do i verify that my pre-release version of fiesty has upgraded to release?
[03:34] <Ax4> !patience | TomBug
[03:34] <ubotu> TomBug: The people here are volunteers, your attitude may determine how fast you are helped.  Not everyone is available all the time, likewise not every answer is available instantly. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[03:34] <rbil> fenris: it's required in the Device Section of xorg.conf
[03:34] <Flannel> !final | fitawav
[03:34] <ubotu> fitawav: If you are running a Herd/Beta version of Ubuntu 7.04 (Feisty Fawn) and have been keeping it up to date, you are already running the final release version of Feisty. To make sure, type  sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade  in a console. If you last updated few days ago, you are on the final version.
[03:34] <TomBug> k sry didnt mean to repeat that fast that tiem
[03:34] <nibsa1242> lordhelmet are you using beryl or compbiz?
[03:34] <noelferreira> what should i use to burn cdr and dvd in feisty?
[03:34] <Ax4> lordhelmet.... love that nick
[03:34] <lordhelmet> negative just kde + gdm
[03:34] <bofh80> run "sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf" under Section "Screen" under DefaultDepth, i have the line "    Option         "AddARGBGLXVisuals" "True"      "   <ignore the first last quotes
[03:34] <Flannel> fitawav: if you do those commands, and dont get any updates, youre on final.  If you do get updates, then once they install, you're on final ;)
[03:34] <fitawav> nevermind.. ubot answered
[03:35] <crdlb> fenris, just run: sudo nvidia-xconfig --add-argb-glx-visuals -d 24
[03:35] <cables> neilthereildeil, System>Administration>Network then choose your device, hit properties, and uncheck the roaming thing
[03:35] <Flannel> !burn | noelferreira
[03:35] <ubotu> noelferreira: CD/DVD Burning software: K3b (KDE), gnomebaker, serpentine, graveman, Nautilus cd burner (Gnome), gtoaster, xcdroast, cdrecord (terminal-based). Burning .iso files: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BurningIsoHowto
[03:35] <bofh80> fenris, hector, run "sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf" under Section "Screen" under DefaultDepth, i have the line "    Option         "AddARGBGLXVisuals" "True"      "   <ignore the first last quotes
[03:35] <FernLujan> mjr: okay, thank you. one last thing. in the section device, where you say "driver   "radeon", my file says "driver    "vesa". Should I change vesa to radeon, or leave vesa, and write "Driver    "radeon"" under it?
[03:35] <fenris> cables: i see three options: emerald, heliodor and GTK, emerald is selected
[03:35] <cables> noelferreira, there's a burning app built in, but I like Brasero.
[03:35] <mjr> FernLujan, oooh, yes, you should change it to radeon
[03:35] <cables> fenris, try selecting heliodor and seeing if that works better. It's not as fancy as Emerald, but it should work.
[03:35] <noelferreira> i use gnome cables
[03:35] <neilthereildeil> i dont see a check boc for roaming
[03:35] <crdlb> cables, don't you thing moving all the beryl help to #ubuntu-effects would be good ?
[03:35] <neilthereildeil> onlky for enable this devicde
[03:36] <cables> crdlb, it would be very good, let's start
[03:36] <rbil> cables: and giving the correct answers?
[03:36] <cables> noelferreira, brasero is for gnome
[03:36] <fenris> cables: doesnt help
[03:36] <hector> bofh80, i have that to but i use nividia-xconfig --add-argb-glx-visuals to set it
[03:36] <atlantia> so.. kernel loads module for wireless card, but nothing shows up in iwconfig and i cant figure out how to "invoke" the new network manager
[03:36] <cables> rbil, what do you mean by that?
[03:36] <jrsims> hey, is anything different in XUBUNTU FEISTY?
[03:36] <mjr> FernLujan, the vesa driver is completely unaccelerated
[03:36] <fenris> cables: ill try this addargglxvisuals thing
[03:36] <cables> rbil, my answer IS correct, crdlb gave it to me in #beryl
[03:37] <robbie_crash> nibsa1242, even with everything as /dev/*dx it still doesn't show the one missing drive
[03:37] <moDumass> hmm, x crashed and this is the error output "failed to load module Nvidia (module does not exist, 0)
[03:37] <cables> fenris, it should already be there. If it's not, you won't even see wobbly windows.
[03:37] <moDumass> any ideas?
[03:37] <rbil> he doesn't have AddARGBGLXVisuals in his xorg.conf and that's required for windows borders
[03:37] <robbie_crash> nibsa1242, the one missing drive doesn't show up anywhere
[03:37] <mjr> FernLujan, so apparently your card wasn't recognized as a radeon during install; I do hope it works even so, and it was just a recognition problem
[03:37] <nibsa1242> robbie_crash I don't know what to tell you
[03:37] <hector> bofh80, everything seems to work fine except for the no-window-borders problem
[03:37] <SciOly> Flannel, nope...nothing
[03:37] <FernLujan> mjr: alright. Everything you told me is done
[03:37] <Flannel> SciOly: right.  I'd file a bug and see what they say.
[03:37] <FernLujan> mjr: do I Need a restart now or should it work?
[03:38] <roler> how do I turn on the gnome control center in feisty?
[03:38] <cables> rbil, I didn't hear him say that he didn't have that in his x.org. My answer solved part of his problems.
[03:38] <linux_kid> How do I initiate my modem to dial?
[03:38] <Ax4> moDumass, looks like you either did something wrong in /etc/X11/xorg.conf or you don't have drivers installed properly
[03:38] <mjr> FernLujan, restart X, eg. by killing it with ctrl-alt-backspace
[03:38] <ajehuk> tbuss - still here?
[03:38] <robbie_crash> nibsa1242, thanks anyhow!
[03:38] <atlantia> nibsa1242, heh working out wrinkles of my own
[03:38] <lordhelmet> no ideas for shutdown/restart options + kde + gdm?
[03:38] <robbie_crash> Anyone else have any ideas?
[03:38] <Ax4> TomBug, so your sound isn't working at all?
[03:38] <h2o> hello everyone, does anybody know when ubuntustudio is supposed to be released?
[03:38] <fenris> cables: it is not there...
[03:38] <Ax4> TomBug, 'lspci - v | grep Audio'
[03:38] <noelferreira> cables i use k3b. it is brasero better?
[03:38] <TomBug> ax4 only the front speaker works
[03:38] <TomBug> k
[03:38] <HasratUSA> Good evening!
[03:38] <cables> fenris, okay, so that should fix it. Add the line as rbil says, then save the file, then restart X with ctrl-alt-backspace
[03:39] <Cassano> whats the Gusty channel?
[03:39] <tbuss> ajehuk: yeah, did you not get the user and password?
[03:39] <Flannel> h2o: #ubuntu-studio, I believe
[03:39] <FernLujan> mjr: k, I'll brb
[03:39] <Flannel> Cassano: there is none currently
[03:39] <ajehuk> tbuss - eh no - how did you send it?
[03:39] <cables> noelferreira, if you use Gnome, then brasero is probably better. I don't know if it's as powerful, but the user interface is very nice.
[03:39] <hector> roler, gnome-control-center on terminal
[03:39] <SciOly> Flannel, launchpad.net/ubuntu?
[03:39] <Ax4> TomBug, sry to throw bot commands at you, but we're all trying to help as many people as possible, some of us 3 people at a time heh
[03:39] <h2o> I checked Flannel, nobody was in the channel
[03:39] <Whiz2> bofh80: the php mail interface is for sending mail only. It wants to either send from the local server (localhost) ot through an external SMTP server (ISP) The interface does not have the ability to retrieve mail from the server.
[03:39] <pi-meson> so a package I need, gtkglextmm-1.2, is missing in feisty. Someone else filed a bug on it, #104804. How do I "me too!" this bug, to encourage resolution?
[03:39] <Flannel> SciOly: https://bugs.launchpad.net/update-manager/
[03:39] <tbuss> ajehuk: I just replied in the same window
[03:39] <deepsa> hey they are giving feisty cd's for free via launchpad
[03:39] <TomBug> Ax4 sure i understand
[03:39] <Cassano> Flannel why hasnt development started?
[03:39] <nibsa1242> noelferreira I use both k3b and brassero I like brassero because it doesn't complain when I burn a CD image to a DVD... I've yet to be able to figure out how to get k3b to do so (when cdrecord was the backend... maybe its different now)
[03:40] <roler> hector, but that doesn't make it appear in my menu...
[03:40] <Flannel> Cassano: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GutsyReleaseSchedule
[03:40] <Whiz2> bofh80: would you recommend a different mail server, instead  of exim?
[03:40] <noelferreira> thanks
[03:40] <noelferreira> i'll try brasero now
[03:40] <Ax4> "Gutsy?"
[03:40] <Ax4> who comes up with these names
[03:40] <ceil420> !enlightenment
[03:40] <ajehuk> tbuss - hmm probably my client (I use bitchx and its been wierd latley) do you want to send me em again in a pm?
[03:40] <ubotu> Enlightenment (or "E") is a window manager for X, providing a useful, and good looking graphical shell in which to work. E17 is the current development version.
[03:40] <hector> roler, well you can do it manually
[03:40] <tbuss> ajehuk: sure
[03:40] <fenris> brb
[03:40] <cedricshock> This warning amused me: supported_versions: WARNING: Unknown Ubuntu release: 7.04
[03:40] <ceil420> Ax4, you should have seen some of the names the community can come up with :p
[03:40] <elpargo> robbie_crash, I'm trying to get a program compiling here and it did seems that dbus changed something cause it's not working :)
[03:41] <bofh80> Whiz2, hmm, i'm a bit lost, you want to send and recieve mail from this PHP site? yes? and you want Exim to what ? exactly for you
[03:41] <HasratUSA> deepsa guess what? I'm downloading Kubuntu Feisty Fawn 7.04 and as soon as it finishes downloading I'm gonna burn it, make several copies and distribute 'em in my neighbourhood the day after tommorrow
[03:41] <roler> just got it thanks
[03:41] <ceil420> Gangrenous Gorilla was mentioned once, I think
[03:41] <ceil420> and Ganky something
[03:41] <lufis> What's Enlightenment got on Metacity?
[03:41] <hector> roler, you can go to System->Main Menu and add a new menu item
[03:41] <cables> ceil420, I'm sure that would be a great move for marketing :)
[03:41] <ceil420> :p
[03:41] <Cassano> flannel so dev starts on the 26th?
[03:41] <rbil> lufis: beauty :-)
[03:41] <Ax4> ceil420, how about 'Gullible Guppie'
[03:41] <Ax4> :p
[03:41] <bofh80> Whiz2, is the website stuff and exim on the same machine?
[03:41] <elpargo> HasratUSA, congrats
[03:42] <Flannel> Cassano: something like that
[03:42] <robbie_crash> elpargo, I guess that's a good sign? At least it means I didn't screw something up beyond repair myself
[03:42] <sonictwin> how can i edit the Applications - Places - System menu?
[03:42] <hector> roler, on the command section you write gnome-control-center
[03:42] <ceil420> i like Itchy Iguana for ubuntu+2 :p
[03:42] <lufis> rbil: oh yeah? I like clearlooks a lot
[03:42] <rbil> lufis: speed .... much much much faster
[03:42] <mjr> hm, hope Fern didn't get stranded outside X :]
[03:42] <ajehuk> lu/msg ajehuk test
[03:42] <Ax4> ceil420, enlightenment is way too minimalistic for my tastes *thumbs down*
[03:42] <cedricshock> ceil420: +3 perhaps?
[03:42] <hector> roler, well the full path of that, it must be /usr/bin/gnome-control-center, let me check
[03:42] <robbie_crash> I guess O
[03:42] <ajehuk> Ax4 - blindingly quick and easy to use tho
[03:42] <fenris> ok, that did it... thx to all who helped!
[03:42] <HasratUSA> elpargo thanks
[03:42] <ceil420> Ax4, i looked it up cos that's wot Yellow Dog is using for their PS3 version
[03:43] <ceil420> i'd only seen the term in passing before
[03:43] <ramin> dang, that just looks good http://ubuntustudio.org/screenshot.png
[03:43] <robbie_crash> I guess I'm down to ripping an ide cable out of a different box and attaching one drive to ide3 and having the other stay on ide2
[03:43] <g35> hello, im having trouble changing my resolution pass 1024x768, i went into my xorg conf file and it shows i can support higher res modes...any ideas?
[03:43] <fenris> and now ill go and get rid of this window wobbling... ;)
[03:43] <atlantia> so.. how am i supposed to use the new network manager again? no cli command invokes it in gnome, and i dont have it in my menus
[03:43] <nibsa1242> you have >2 ide channels?
[03:43] <Whiz2> bofh80: I want only to send mail from the PHP site. not retrieve. The only reason I installed a mail server on my machine in the first place is so I could send mail using the PHP site without having to do so through my ISP's SMTP server. Theonly reason I want to retrieve any mail at all from the server is to keep it empty so it doesn't use up my disk space. I want to use exim (or a better server) for the sole purpose of sending mail fro
[03:43] <nowisn> !grub
[03:43] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[03:43] <cables> atlantia, nm-applet invokes it in gnome
[03:44] <ceil420> g35, there's no 1280x1024 option if you scroll down?
[03:44] <rbil> g35: at the color depth you have set for default?
[03:44] <atlantia> cables, thanks!
[03:44] <hector> roler, yep /usr/bin/gnome-control-center
[03:44] <Ax4> ceil420, yellow dog? afraid i don't know what that is
, that happened with me too, I dont how to fix it, so I just reinstalled ubuntu
[03:44] <intelikey> crimsun you around ?
[03:44] <SciOly> Flannel, filed.
[03:44] <ceil420> Ax4, neither did i until someone posted a link about them developing a version for PS3
[03:44] <Ax4> ubuntustudio = vista
[03:44] <robbie_crash> nibsa1242, I've got 4
[03:44] <Ax4> lmao
[03:44] <Ax4> (in looks mind you)
[03:44] <thornomad> is anyone else using the .torrent for 7.04-desktop ? i started it last night and am now down to "zero" peers and have not finished downloading yet.  is that wierd on my end or just no one else out there ?
[03:44] <atlantia> cables, ok so nm-applet at cli does nada, how else can i invoke it??
[03:44] <robbie_crash> nibsa1242, and 4 sata
[03:45] <cables> thornomad, I'm going to start seeding now.
[03:45] <cables> atlantia, are you in gnome?
[03:45] <cedricshock> thornomad: I can seed it too.
[03:45] <atlantia> cables yes
[03:45] <ceil420> http://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=yellowdog "Starting with version 5.0, the company has also built a specialist edition for Sony PlayStation 3 with the Enlightenment desktop."
[03:45] <ramin> I think it is on your side
[03:45] <lufis> thornomad: That sounds strange... i doubt the torrent went dead that fast
[03:45] <cables> atlantia, make sure you have a notification area on one of your panels
[03:45] <Whiz2> bofh80 if it makes this conversation easier, you can PM me on here.
[03:45] <Ax4> ceil420, got any screenies? :p
[03:45] <intelikey> general Question,  are there very many comming in here with "no sound after the upgrade" ?    and is there a known issue ?
[03:45] <ramin> there are about 60 seeds, last time I checked
[03:45] <Ax4> ceil420, ahh see ur link
[03:46] <diego_> hi, anyone knows why in the add/remove applications the flash player is disabled?? i has amd64
[03:46] <thornomad> cables and cedricshock ... thanks ... lufis ... i thought it was strange too.  and the other night, people on other irc channels were saying there were 100s of seeds.  i had a limited number.  i got it from the releases.ubuntu.com site
[03:46] <pi-meson> or can anyone recommend where I might find out why gtkglextmm was dropped from feisty ?
[03:46] <Ax4> intelikey, "lspci -v | grep Audio"
[03:46] <cables> diego_, there's your reason.
[03:46] <HasratUSA> ceil420 yes, someone has developed a linux OS for PS3, which is called YellowDog Linux and Sony has hired him to professionally develop the OS so that users and developers alike can further extend the capability of PS3
[03:46] <lufis> thornomad: check for connection issues? maybe try a different torrent client?
[03:46] <atlantia> cables, ok got it.. i added it.. hmm so now i have an issue where wireless is gone. but the kernel module looks good and it shows up in lspci..
[03:46] <nibsa1242> diego_ there is no recent flash for amd64
[03:46] <ceil420> tch neither of those "screenshots" links has any
[03:46] <hector> intelikey, i have the same problem, do you have a separate windows partition?
[03:46] <dac> how does one know if the box is 64 bit?
[03:46] <intelikey> Ax4 card is recognized but sound wont come out
[03:46] <thornomad> i tried two clients
[03:46] <diego_> cables:ok, i have a new ubuntu 7.04 system
[03:46] <dominationlll> Hello all, can I ahve some help please
[03:46] <thornomad> lufis, sorry, i tried two clients ...
[03:46] <cables> atlantia, i can't help you there.
[03:46] <ceil420> HasratUSA, and i think that's groovie :)
[03:46] <intelikey> hector no windows for me
[03:46] <sonictwin> how cani edit the applications - places - system menu?
[03:46] <atlantia> cables np ty
[03:46] <Ax4> intelikey, yea i wanna know ur soundcard lol
[03:46] <cables> diego_, flash doesn't work on amd64 systems
[03:47] <sonictwin>  under places - i want to remove two folders that were dragged there mistakenly
[03:47] <lufis> thornomad: are you using an unopened port or something?
[03:47] <temujoe> what's " > /dev/null " mean?
[03:47] <cypruser> I'm having errors when upgrading.
[03:47] <ramin> Im bloat ware free!
[03:47] <bofh80> Whiz2, well if Exim is installed, then you can put it's name inplace of the ISP's in the PHP site?
[03:47] <cables> diego_, you need to use the i386 version
[03:47] <Ax4> intelikey, maybe it's hardware related, not software config related
[03:47] <nibsa1242> diego_ my current solution is to use a plugin for amd64 firefox that allows the use of 32bit plugins I'd tell you the name, but my 64bit box is currently half dead from upgrading to fiesty
[03:47] <thornomad> lufis ... um ... maybe ... can i change ports ?  i don't konw a thing about torrents ... was just trying it for ubuntu's sake
[03:47] <dominationlll> I have downloaded Ubuntu, and I have clicked the install program and it doesn't seem to work. It just sits there with a white window
[03:47] <Jenn> cypuser: what kind of error?
[03:47] <lufis> thornomad: are you downloading it on windows?
[03:47] <robbie_crash> even though elpargo is going to yell at me, I think I'm just going to have to reinstall totally, which isn't so bad because I've realized how badly I've butchered a lot of stuff since I first installed edgy. So starting fresh, and right might not be such a bad idea.
[03:47] <hector> intelikey, well my problem is when in windows i leave the sound in mute
[03:47] <intelikey> Ax4 can you come in kubuntu   there are three others in there with sound issues atm
[03:47] <cedricshock> thornomad: It'll take about 2 minuites for bittorrent to check that I'm not seeding you garbage.
[03:47] <diego_> cables: i have to use the npwraper ? i do this in debian
[03:47] <cables> dominationlll, it can take a while to start.
[03:47] <FernLujan> mjr: hey
[03:47] <bofh80> Whiz2, if exim is running, then it should have it's SMTP running . . . and hopefully set to do it's own lookups
[03:47] <cables> diego_, not sure... it's possible to get it working, but it's not straightforward.
[03:48] <soothsay> Is apt-cacher the best way to distribute packages to multiple machines on a network?
[03:48] <diego_> nibsa1242: ok, thanks, i goolgeit
[03:48] <FernLujan> mjr: you still here?
[03:48] <cypruser> Jenn: The updater does not download files 59 and 60.
[03:48] <diego_> cables: ok, thanks
[03:48] <nowisn> ah crap how do i put my password in the terminal
[03:48] <Crema10> whats the easiest way to update 6.10 to 7.04?
[03:48] <thornomad> lufis, no on the mac. tried transmission and the regular bittorrent (Standard) client
[03:48] <dac> where do you find out if your box is 64 bit?
[03:48] <intelikey> or any sound expert care to help in #kubuntu for a minute ?
[03:48] <cables> nowisn, it won't show up but don't worry, it's going in.
[03:48] <thornomad> lufis, transmission says ports are working
[03:48] <Alonea> ok, when I upgraded I guess the gaim upgraded too, (it looks different) but it does not work.
[03:48] <Alonea> It says "waiting for network connection" and its been that way for 20 minutes
[03:48] <ramin> is ubuntu planning to get more servers and bandwidth? their servers were so messed yesterday, nobody could upgrade, atleast, I couldn't
[03:48] <reazn> Crema10,  sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[03:48] <bofh80> Whiz2, if it's on the same machine, type localhost as the name, if it's running on the same network pop the IP or the name of the Server (assuming you have internal DNS running correctly)
[03:48] <nibsa1242> diego_ good luck to you... and so you know it didn't work right for some reason until I restated
[03:48] <Whiz2> bofh80 so how do I do that? for smtp it wants the entire server name (smtp.host.com) but it's local
[03:48] <lufis> thornomad: Strange... try manual announcing
[03:48] <nowisn> it says bad command
[03:49] <bofh80> Whiz2, try localhost
[03:49] <Taime1> have the repos changed?
[03:49] <FernLujan> mjr: :( you there man?
[03:49] <Crema10> reazn: awsome, thanks... but will I encounter any problems doing this update?
[03:49] <Whiz2> bofh80 just "localhost"?
[03:49] <Taime1> i am getting errors trying to check for updates in edgy
[03:49] <cypruser> !pastebin
[03:49] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[03:49] <bofh80> Whiz2, yup if it's on the same machine
[03:49] <cables> Taime1, they're slow from all the traffic.
[03:49] <hector> no window border in compiz, i wonder why
[03:49] <elpargo> robbie_crash, just make sure you have /home on a diff partition so you don't have to do backups
[03:49] <thornomad> lufis ... hmm ... not sure how to do that
[03:49] <dominationlll> Cables: how long does it take to start?
[03:49] <cables> hector, go to #ubuntu-effects for help.
[03:49] <ramin> hector, get beryl
[03:49] <madman91> can someone help me setup my mouse ? After my upgrade to feisty my scrolly thing wont work... so after following many many many guides on google/ubuntuforums i got it to work a little.. help?
[03:49] <Taime1> so its basically just unreachable because they are getting pounded?
[03:49] <nowisn> actually its just live cd right now, what is the pass for root
[03:49] <renato> Hi There... I wonder if is there anyone who could give me a help on How to install ubuntu via ftp... (my cd burner is broken)...
[03:50] <cables> dominationlll, didn't take that long for me... how much ram do you have?
[03:50] <lufis> thornomad: It should be an option somewhere... alternatively try rebooting? I don't know really
[03:50] <cables> nowisn, there's no root password
[03:50] <cypruser> I get these errors when I try to upgrade Ubuntu. http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16707/
[03:50] <Whiz2> bofh80 ok, but that doesn't solve the problem of how do i retrieve mail from the server to keep messages from filling up my small HDD?
[03:50] <cables> !root | nowisn
[03:50] <pi-meson> hmm, okay, it looks like the package was removed from debian
[03:50] <ubotu> nowisn: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[03:50] <dominationlll> 256mb
[03:50] <hector> ramin, no window borders in beryl either
[03:50] <lufis> thornomad: But the torrent is definitely still active
[03:50] <FernLujan> mjr: now my PC's messed
[03:50] <Supaplex> renato: what's the current os you're running?
[03:50] <thornomad> lufis ... okay ... well, i guess it is me somewhere.  glad to know it is still active.  i can try a reboot.  thanks.
[03:50] <robbie_crash> elpargo, that's one of the things I learned recently, I'm going to have one partition be / one be /var one be /home and then all the rest set as it is right now
[03:50] <Crema10> reazn: for example, will I encounter problems with Beryl which gave me so much problems to install in my laptop
[03:50] <lufis> thornomad: no prob :)
[03:50] <Crema10> doing that dist-upgrade
[03:50] <cables> dominationlll, I've run it on systems like that and it didn't take that long... does it seem to be working?
[03:50] <ramin> hector, hmm, are you using dapper?
[03:50] <LordLimecat> how does one install "GNU"....a INSTALL file tells me that make-ing it requires GNU....
[03:50] <FernLujan> can anyone help me please?
[03:50] <nibsa1242> nowisn there is no pass for root... you need to sudo xxxxx where xxx is the command to run as root... or you could sudo su (<--- not recommended)
[03:50] <Taime1> OMG im such an idiot.... i didnt type in my WEP key....HAHA
[03:50] <renato> Supaplex... I have ubuntu edgy, but I would like to make a fresh install
[03:51] <robbie_crash> elpargo, I'll probably just keep my /home as it is now, unless there's a reason to not do that?
[03:51] <Taime1> nevermind on the repos
[03:51] <bofh80> Whiz2, does that work? 1 problem at a time lol
[03:51] <lufis> LordLimecat: just gnu?
[03:51] <reazn> Crema10, you have beryl on 6.10 and now you want to use 7.04 and simply upgrade?
[03:51] <nibsa1242> FernLujan what is your problem
[03:51] <Whiz2> bofh80 let me check... one moment...
[03:51] <dominationlll> Yes. It works but everything else but the installion takes awfully slow
[03:51] <LordLimecat> lufis: if yes
[03:51] <LordLimecat> thats all it says
[03:51] <Crema10> reazn: yes sir
[03:51] <cedricshock> thornomad: Problem connecting to tracker - timeout exceded. Eww.
[03:51] <Samus_Aran> anyone know how to fix this: "Searching for splash image ... none found, skipping ..."
[03:51] <lufis> LordLimecat: "You need GNU to make this app"?
[03:51] <LordLimecat> program is "fbida", if you dl the tar.gz, you can check for yer self :)
[03:51] <Samus_Aran> I have all the splash stuff installed that I could find
[03:51] <elpargo> robbie_crash, yes indeed just kill / and mount /home back
[03:51] <LordLimecat> ill paste the line into pastebin, one sec
[03:51] <Crema10> reazn: I want upgrade, but I dont want to break anything, especially my beryl
[03:51] <soothsay> Can someone tell give a quick comparison of apt-cacher versus apt-proxy (or others)?
[03:51] <Supaplex> renato: not sure on that one. got a usb stick handy?
[03:52] <mojo> I have a question...  Why is it that I can't seem to get digg.com to load in Firefox but when I try it in Konqueror it works fine?  It will eventually load in ff but only if I retry SEVERAL times.  Very annoying!
[03:52] <FernLujan> nibsa1242: well, I followed one of MJR's "guides" that he posted a link to a bit earlier. if you scroll up and try to find one of MJR;s messages, he left a link on how to get the desktop effects working by modifying /etc/x11/xorg.conf
[03:52] <LordLimecat> lufis: i am possibly an idiot....it says "you need to use GNU make"
[03:52] <mojo> Or at least someone give me an idea on what I might check to see where the problem lies
[03:52] <renato> Supaplex: Yes I do... but my usb key just has 512mb
[03:52] <wickedpuppy> mojo, shouldn't you ask this to ff devs ?
[03:52] <LordLimecat> lufis: but when i use make, it throws a fit
[03:52] <lufis> LordLimecat: ah, do you have build-essential installed?
[03:52] <Taime1> mojo: ff2 has issues
[03:52] <fiery_cleric> mojo: proxy server?
[03:52] <mojo> wickedpuppy: maybe...
[03:52] <reazn> Crema10, 7.04 has desktop effects like beryl with it..
[03:52] <robbie_crash> elpargo,  thanks! Sorry I feel I have to reinstall. but I really have bunged a lot of stuff up due to ignorance
[03:52] <HasratUSA> ramin well when i started the upgrade, the 'time remaining' section of the upgrade tool's window was acting seriously crazy. Sometimes it was saying '4 hours 24 minutes remaining' and after a few seconds it said '34 hours and 44 minutes remaining'. What I did was that I simply stopped caring and went to sleep. at around 6 AM in the morning I somehow woke up and found out that everything was neatly done! the upgrade tool nicely cleaned
[03:52] <nowisn> holy frig is there an idiot ubuntu channel?
[03:52] <HasratUSA> up previous files, upgraded old packages, installed new ones and restarted
[03:52] <LordLimecat> lufius: just overwrote my old edgy, so, maybe not?
[03:52] <FernLujan> nibsa1242: Well, I did everything he told me to do, and now my computer won't load graphically. it says that server x failed to initialize, so all I Have is my console.
[03:53] <steb> How do I install update the ubuntu kernel from a live CD?
[03:53] <reazn> Crema10, what i would do is disable the beryl lines you put in system > preferences > sessions
[03:53] <nibsa1242> FernLujan, sorry making eye candy work properly is not something I'm good at it always crashes too much on my computer... oh wait I have an idea
[03:53] <LordLimecat> lufius: i will now :)
[03:53] <LordLimecat> thank you
[03:53] <reazn> then dist-upgrade
[03:53] <FernLujan> nibsa1242: now I'm using my ubuntu CD to be on gaim
[03:53] <lufis> :)
[03:53] <mojo> fiery_cleric: no proxy, unless my isp has a transparent one i don't know of... but then konq would be hit by that too.  actually, sometimes using TOR on will make digg.com load when having it off won't... though not today
[03:53] <wickedpuppy> nowisn, still having your password problem ?
[03:53] <FernLujan> nibsa1242: what's the idea?
[03:53] <elpargo> robbie_crash, yup you have learn your lesson, resintalling is the last option :p
[03:53] <Crema10> reazn: 7.04 has effects like beryl!!??! wow! So we dont need Beryl anymore?
[03:53] <Supaplex> renato: I know debian has a way to install etch via usb key by placing the iso with the startup misc on it.  can you boot from usb?
[03:53] <cedricshock> steb: Upgrading an existing installation can be done with the upgrade manager (from the running system) or from the /alternate/ install cd.
[03:53] <fiery_cleric> mojo: TOR?
[03:53] <cables> dominationlll, lol
[03:54] <nibsa1242> FernLujan ok... look I imagine that part of what you did was to edit xorg.conf right?
[03:54] <dominationlll> cables is my cd messed up?
 that's great
[03:54] <reazn> Crema10, no, you don't need beryl :)
[03:54] <cables> @lart dominationlll
[03:54] <robbie_crash> back in an hour or so!
[03:54] <atlantia> scott@haruko:~$ sudo modprobe -r ipw3945
[03:54] <atlantia> sh: /sbin/ipw3945d-2.6.20-15-generic: not found
[03:54] <FernLujan> nibsa1242: yep
[03:54] <cables> dominationlll, it could be, run the integrity test from the livecd boot screen.
[03:54] <HasratUSA> Crema?
[03:54] <mojo> fiery_cleric: eff.org  TOR (The Onion Router) anonymizing proxy net
[03:54] <atlantia> can anyone tell me why the module for this kernel for 3945 is missing from an upgrade?
[03:54] <cedricshock> !upgrade > steb
[03:54] <Crema10> reazn: oh wow! thats awsome... ok one more question, I installed A LOT Of things via Automatix, will I encounter problems with that?
[03:54] <temujoe> what's "somecommand > /dev/null " mean?
[03:54] <anarchron> hey guys
[03:54] <DagonX> are Ubuntu servers working?
[03:54] <HasratUSA> Crema what Feisty wants to call 'desktop effect' is Compiz
[03:54] <nibsa1242> FernLujan and I would assume that before you edited it you make a back up by doing something like cp xorg.conf xorg.conf.desktope.bak
[03:54] <cables> Crema10, quite possibly.
[03:54] <cables> !slow | DagonX
[03:54] <ubotu> DagonX: The Ubuntu repositories and ISO mirrors are currently under heavy load due to the release of !Feisty. Please consider using !torrents to download ISO images, and be patient with APT updates.
[03:54] <anarchron> how do I find the logs for network manager in feisty?
[03:54] <lufis> temujoe: it sends it to /dev/null
[03:55] <mojo> Taime1: ff2 "issues"?  where can i read up on that more?
[03:55] <reazn> Crema10, as long as you make sure your system is upto date, before you do the dist-upgrade - you should be fine.
[03:55] <nibsa1242> FernLujan all you need to do is to restore from the backup
[03:55] <FernLujan> nibsa1242: no, he didn't tell me anything like that
[03:55] <moDumasser> hey all, whats the easiest way to make my TV out work on my Nvidia fx5950ultra? I know its quite an old card but it should still be able to handle the load
[03:55] <cables> DagonX, go to System>Administration>Software Sources and select another source server.
[03:55] <temujoe> lufis: and /dev/null = ?
[03:55] <lufis> temujoe: basically it's a way to dump something that isn't needed
[03:55] <ramin> i know, I thought there was a poll and beryl got more votes, so why did they put compiz in instead?
[03:55] <Whiz2> bofh80 according to the php interface, there were no errors. i won't know for sure whether i received it for a lil while.
[03:55] <KalleDK> !torrents
[03:55] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about torrents - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:55] <cables> ramin, more stable i guess
[03:55] <temujoe> lufis: aah, ok, thanks.
[03:55] <KalleDK> !torrents
[03:55] <ubotu> Torrent downloads for the Ubuntu ISOs are available on all the download pages. For Feisty: http://releases.ubuntu.com/feisty/
[03:55] <reazn> Crema10, sudo apt-get update // sudo apt-get upgrade // then do a: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[03:55] <Whiz2> bofh80 i'm assuming it worked
[03:55] <fiery_cleric> mojo: ok... um... maybe create a new profie ... dont know really
[03:55] <ramin> ah
[03:55] <cedricshock> DagonX: Frontier whatever has been fast for me, and seems to be up-to-date.
[03:55] <renato> Supaplex... Yes I can... I found another day a site with a few "image files" to make it, but I have to create with PCLinux OS (for ubuntu I need 1 gb at least)
[03:55] <LordLimecat> lufius: er...still throwin a fit
[03:55] <LordLimecat> lemme pastebin
[03:55] <DagonX> will do just wanted to make sure the problem wasn't at my end
[03:55] <DagonX> Thanks
[03:55] <FernLujan> nibsa1242: so I guess I don't have a backup...
[03:55] <LordLimecat> !paste | LordLimecat
[03:55] <lufis> temujoe: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki//dev/null
[03:55] <nibsa1242> FernLujan... well that sucks then anytime I text edit an important file I always make a backup so that I can restore quickly
[03:55] <wickedpuppy> temujoe, /dev/null is a void ... it sux everything up .. for mroe info pls google on it.. basically nothing ever escapes from it
[03:55] <conn> hi, where do I make a request for a package to be updated via feisty-updates? Network-Manager 0.6.5 was released yesterday and it'd be good to included in Feisty
[03:56] <mojo> fiery_cleric: well that is worth a shot!
[03:56] <Crema10> reazn: ok thanks man, i appreciate it!
[03:56] <nowisn> okay tried tryping in grub in the terminal and it gives me error 27 unrecognized command?
[03:56] <SubMOA> Ohayo all!
[03:56] <bofh80> Whiz2, lol ok. now, what's this mailbox stuff, you have an email pop3 box on your ISP and you just want to empty it, you don't want to read the emails?
[03:56] <Taime1> mojo: for some reason, konqueror is doing a better job of emulating IE... i have found this to be the case on several websites... i guess im talking mostly from recent experisnce, but i have also found several others online that feel the same way
[03:56] <FernLujan> nibsa1242: I don't know pretty much anything. so I was just doing what this guy told me to do
[03:56] <nowisn> okay tried tryping in grub in the terminal and it gives me error 27 unrecognized command?
[03:56] <temujoe> lufis: thx wickedpuppy: thx too
[03:56] <nibsa1242> FernLujan did you erase things in the xorg config file or just comment (###) them out?
[03:56] <Taime1> experienceS*
[03:56] <FernLujan> nibsa1242: I remember something about editing some xorg.0. something file in /var/ or something like that... if it sounds familiar
[03:56] <mojo> Taime1: but digg.com is not something i would expect to be IE centric
[03:56] <cypruser> I having errors upgrading to Feisty. http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16707/
[03:56] <fiery_cleric> error 27 thats helpfull....
[03:56] <LordLimecat> lufius:  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16708/
[03:56] <wickedpuppy> temujoe, those technical terms can be usually be easily found on the net ... its sometimes frustrating to ask here unless its a technical problem ...
[03:56] <Whiz2> bofh80 the mailbox i want to empty is the one i have in exim. i somehow managed to get email since i installed it
[03:56] <reazn> Crema10, no worriessss
[03:57] <LordLimecat> am i possibly missing more?
[03:57] <FernLujan> nibsa1242: just added new things, and changed the Driver variable from vesa to radeon
[03:57] <infidel> !upgrade
[03:57] <ubotu> For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[03:57] <Crema10> reazn: let me do that now, please cross your fingers for me, here goes nothing  :)
[03:57] <temujoe> wickedpuppy: roger that, I'll be more self-sufficient :)
[03:57] <Supaplex> renato: try http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/ch02s02.html.en#id2530967 but with an ubuntu cd.  Is there a minicd1 for feisty?
[03:57] <wickedpuppy> temujoe, welcome to the geek-club :P
[03:57] <temujoe> hehe
[03:57] <Flannel> !minimal | Supaplex
[03:57] <ubotu> Supaplex: The Minimal CD image is very small in size, and it downloads most packages from the Internet during installation, allowing you to select only those you want (the installer is like the one on the !Alternate CD). See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD
[03:58] <Whiz2> bofh80 but i want to access from a different computer on the network. (through my LAN as opposed to through the internet, or from the locahost)
[03:58] <bofh80> Whiz2, LOL, erm, exaclty how do you know you have recieved email?
[03:58] <cpare> Hello again all
[03:58] <renato> Supaplex: I dont know... let me check it out...
[03:58] <lufis> cpare: hello :)
[03:58] <josh__> is anyone having problems with grub not loading
[03:58] <steb> cedricshock: I updated my kernel to feisty and it will not boot.  None of my alternate kernels will boot.  I need upgrade from 2.6.20-15.x to 2.6.20-15.27. Thanks.
[03:58] <fenris> omg, beryl is cool 8)
[03:58] <bofh80> Whiz2, you want to access which part? the PHP site or pop3 ?
[03:58] <Whiz2> bofh80 i logged into my user from the console, and as soon as I did, i saw the message "You've got mail!"
[03:58] <Supaplex> renato: like ubotu says. minimal should fit.
[03:58] <cpare> thanks for the help earlier with the Desktop Effects
[03:58] <FernLujan> dibsa1242: does "/var/" ... "xorg.0"... sound familiar to you at all?
[03:58] <cpare> I am gonna stay away from it for a while
[03:58] <HasratUSA> I found the default 'desktop effect' thingy that came preinstalled with feisty fawn serioulsy lacking in standard and features. if i have to say a single reason to quickly describe why it sucks in my opinion, i would say that i still haven't found a GUI app preinstalled in Feisty to configure Compiz, or your 'desktop effects'. Yes I know what you're saying! "I can go to System menu, choose 'desktop effects' and enable/tick 'woobly
[03:58] <HasratUSA> windows' and '3d desktop workspaces'. but those are the only two you will get along with some minimizing and maximizing effects as well as some plugins. but again, you won't be able to configure it using a GUI app, whereas Beryl is just complete, neat and comes with one hell of a wonderful GUI configuration manager
[03:58] <nibsa1242> FernLujan, ok well if you can remember exactly what file that was you should be able to edit it and remove the new things (just put a # or mutiple ### in front of any line you added to comment it out (I think # is the comment character, not exactly sure maybe someone else can help)) OR there should be a command to reconfigure X but I can't remember it
[03:58] <cpare> next release will be better
[03:58] <cpare> :)
[03:58] <Whiz2> bofh80 my exim inbox (exim doesn't come with pop3)
[03:58] <lufis> fenris: yep... the selling point of vista for free :)
[03:59] <Crema10> reazn: actually one more question, will I see any performance decrease doing this upgrade, as opposed to doing it a clean 7.10 install?
[03:59] <LordLimecat> anyone have a second for a "make" problem?  trying to make "fbida" and its throwin errors: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16708/
[03:59] <josh__> why does it say error to load operating system where grub is suppose to pop up
[03:59] <atlantia> FYI if you upgrade, and your intel 3945 wireless card is gone, it is because you have to install the resticted modules package, even if yo
[03:59] <bofh80> Whiz2, ?! 1 sec lol
[03:59] <Whiz2> bofh80 ok
[03:59] <Supaplex> HasratUSA: patches welcome.
[03:59] <reazn> Crema10, i did an upgrade rather than a fresh install and it seems to be fine.
[03:59] <infidel> can you apt-get upgrade to 7.04?
[03:59] <xtknight> !upgrade | infidel
[03:59] <ubotu> infidel: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[03:59] <reazn> infidel, sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[03:59] <Crema10> reazn: ok then, i'll give it a shot.. got nothint to lose, thanks man :)
[03:59] <lufis> LordLimecat: Have you got all the dependencies installed?
[04:00] <reazn> Crema10, have funnn
[04:00] <FernLujan> dibsa1242: I'll ask someone else then
[04:00] <FernLujan> ty
[04:00] <mojo> HasratUSA: Beryl is a fork of Compiz, and one of the things it has going for it is the config editor (though it is waaaay saturated with settings that should be on 'advanced' tabs).  Compiz and Beryl are re-merging thankfully so the future looks bright.
[04:00] <cpare> HasratUSA - doesn't matter as compiz and Beryl are merging
[04:00] <infidel> reazn, thanks
[04:00] <cpare> once again
[04:00] <reazn> nps
[04:00] <cpare> HasratUSA - check the compiz homepage
[04:00] <fenris> lufis: plus the stylish apple-cube :)
[04:00] <lufis> fenris: yup :)
[04:00] <LordLimecat> lufius: im not really sure, but it doesnt list any
[04:00] <FernLujan> Can anyone help me with a server X problem?
[04:00] <cpare> HasratUSA - seems compiz is more stable, but beryl is more bling
[04:00] <lufis> LordLimecat: what are you compiling again?
[04:01] <cpare> HasratUSA - so we get the best of both worlds
[04:01] <LordLimecat> lufis: im at that stage where im trying to get used to building programs myself, but still sort of confused
[04:01] <LordLimecat> fbida
[04:01] <nowisn> Ty but i'm givin up, bye
[04:01] <LordLimecat> http://linux.bytesex.org/fbida/
[04:01] <axiom> anyone know when feisty+1 will be out? and what exactly feisty+1 means?
[04:01] <NeoTheOne-> huammm
[04:01] <steb> anyone: I updated my kernel to feisty and it will not boot.  None of my alternate kernels will boot.  I need upgrade from 2.6.20-15.x to 2.6.20-15.27. Thanks.
[04:01] <NeoTheOne-> hi all
[04:01] <lufis> LordLimecat: ah, thats ok... it's a simple process once you get the hang of it, especially with ubuntu's awesome repos
[04:01] <Whiz2> bofh80 confirmed! The email i just sent from the PHP interface was received at the email address i sent it to
[04:01] <HasratUSA> reazn i did the same as well. nothing has seriously gone haywire so far lol and i'm keeping my fingers crossed. previously I promised to myself that edgy was all I needed in my life and that I would never have to upgrade to Feisty. however i couldn't just resist it when people went crazy over Feisty and servers got massive hits lol. so i decided to take the risk and do the upgrade
[04:01] <setuid> What's the name of the app that shows me the volume up/down graphic when I use the volume buttons on my laptop?
[04:01] <wickedpuppy> axiom, that means the next version after feisty ???
[04:01] <mojo> cpare: my understanding is that compiz dev has been slower to adopt cutting edge stuff b/c they want to get the architecture done "right" from the beginning, and avoid the hackish code.
[04:02] <Rolando> Ax4  Could you paste again the http page for bugs in kernel, Im sorry i forgetit... tks ... please
[04:02] <nibsa1242> FernLujan I think I found the comman you need. It should be sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg do that from the command line and hopefully all will be well.
[04:02] <bofh80> Whiz2, cool, just flickin thru some Exim docs lol. Err what ubuntu are you running on that machine?
[04:02] <josh__> what is up with fiesty and grub
[04:02] <reazn> HasratUSA, i found there were still a few little bugs in edgy.. that seem to be fixed in feisty.. i'll always stick with the latest version
[04:02] <Supaplex> renato: http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/ch04s04.html.en looks more relavant. be sure to backup your memory stick someplace safe if you need the contents.
[04:02] <josh__> on a clean install
[04:02] <cpare> mojo - seems to be, I was reading the same - Novell was the force behind compiz
[04:02] <Whiz2> bofh80 kubuntu - dapper release
[04:02] <setuid> compiz, blech
[04:02] <setuid> Works on like 5% of machines
[04:02] <cpare> mojo - and then the open source community forked it to add bling
[04:02] <axiom> wickedpuppy, i'm just not sure if it means the next major release or something less major. as it is, my system will not update to feisty because i don't have 50MB of free space on my /boot partition (only 40MB)
[04:03] <FernLujan> nibsa1242: can I do that from the terminal here while using the ubuntu CD?
[04:03] <cpare> mojo - it will be nice to see them come together
[04:03] <lufis> LordLimecat: Hm... have you looked in the readme for any?
[04:03] <nibsa1242> Both compiz and beryl crash on me way too much... but I blame it on XGL since I've an ATI card
[04:03] <josh__> anyone else have fiesty and grub problems
[04:03] <lufis> LordLimecat: generally the devs list them
[04:03] <mojo> cpare: well actually it seems that a dev employed by novell but he claims to take his own counsel, not 'directed' by novell
[04:03] <slop> is there a way to see a log of all the messages that pop up in tty1 during boot?
[04:03] <LordLimecat> lufis: ill check again....do i need gcc?
[04:03] <cpare> nibsa1242 - I have to agree
[04:03] <wickedpuppy> axiom, i don't remember ubuntu having a minor release between major releases .. whats the minor release between dapper and edgy ??
[04:03] <lufis> LordLimecat: yes, but it's included in the build-essential metapackage
[04:03] <mojo> cpare: agreed
[04:03] <setuid> nibsa1242, There's a HOWTO that explains how to get that working with AIGLX
[04:03] <LordLimecat> again, this is a fresh install...formatted old edgy where i did my early compiles
[04:04] <nibsa1242> FernLujan, no I think you'll need to boot into the system... or chroot
[04:04] <setuid> nibsa1242, http://www.howtoforge.com/ubuntu_feisty_beryl_ati_radeon
[04:04] <cpare> nibsa1242 - I have had bad luck with beryl, and compiz blew me up just now on Feisty
[04:04] <HasratUSA> reazn yes, first of all it's got more faster than dapper and edgy and there is absolutely no doubt about that. secondly several issues, including the most serious one that severely frustrated wireless internet users, are gone now, most probably, and i'm saying 'most probably' because i don't have an wireless card and hence i can't test it but i bet i'm gonna buy one sooner or later now to see if wireless features are now working outta
[04:04] <HasratUSA> the box
[04:04] <mojo> nibsa1242: i use aiglx with the opensource radeon driver no problems.  i don't game so the slower fps doesn't bother me for now
[04:04] <nibsa1242> setuid, yeah, but then my X800 XL doesn't get to use all its nice features
[04:04] <kalifonria909> can anyone help me with fiesty
[04:04] <NeoTheOne-> I am install fiesty today, but i have problem with wifi, i just got 46% signal streng :(
[04:04] <setuid> nibsa1242, Read the howto, yes it does.
[04:04] <LordLimecat> kalifonria909: whats the problem?
[04:04] <kalifonria909> i cant get fiesty to boot
[04:04] <Malachi> I'm trying to upgrade Feisty on someone's laptop, but the Update Manager isn't finding the update.
[04:05] <corevette> what packages attach apache with mysql/php?
[04:05] <nibsa1242> setuid anyhow, the os radeon driver and I have issues
[04:05] <renato> Supaplex: thank you very much for your help, but I couldn't find any minimun ubuntu 7.04 iso file to put in my usb key
[04:05] <cpare> Kalifornia909 - what you got
[04:05] <setuid> nibsa1242, Such as?
[04:05] <nibsa1242> setuid it doesn't work right so I'm stuck installing in alternate CD land
[04:05] <Whiz2> bofh80 brb there is an issue in my house... (afk)
[04:05] <setuid> nibsa1242, "doesn't work right" is too vague. Please point me to the bug reports you've filed, so I can read up on them.
[04:06] <FernLujan> nibsa1242: Alright man, thanks a bunch. I'll ttyl
[04:06] <scot524> corvette, i think it is libapache2-mod-php
[04:06] <nibsa1242> setuid otherwise I get the dreaded gdm no screens found error... its a known bug the work around is to drop to a console and fix xorg.conf or install with alternate cd
[04:06] <NeoTheOne-> I am install fiesty today, but i have problem wifi with chipset atheros,  i just got 46% signal streng,
[04:06] <Azureday> is anyone using BCM4318 wireless adapter here?
[04:07] <Azureday> It doesn't work in feisty
[04:07] <lmosher> Just updated my nvidia beta driver using alberomilone.net's "envy" program on fiesty. X crashes with this error: API mismatch: the NVIDIA kernel module has the version 1.0-9755, but this X module has the version 1.0-9631. Please make sure blah blah they're all the same"
[04:07] <Azureday> although it seems to be recognized
[04:07] <lmosher> Which package is it talking about? How do I update it? :)
[04:07] <scot524> corvette, or libapache3-mod-php5 (assuming u have apache2 and php5)
[04:07] <nibsa1242> setuid for example https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xorg-server/+bug/89853
[04:07] <HasratUSA> Imosher did you know alberto hasn't released a version of envy compatible for Feisty yet because he is busy with studies?
[04:07] <Toma-> Props to the "ubuntu-restricted-extras" package!!! Sweeeet!
[04:08] <seven5_> i'm trying to get digital out from vlc, and i'm just getting pops, like its not decoding it right, anyone ever seen that?
[04:08] <TashKavarish> hello
[04:08] <eck> lmosher: so the kernel module is too new fo ubuntu
[04:08] <HasratUSA> Imosher and did you know his nVIDIA geforce card has died recently and that unless and until he gets a new geforce card he can't literally continue to develop envy
[04:08] <Supaplex> !minimal | renato
[04:08] <ubotu> renato: The Minimal CD image is very small in size, and it downloads most packages from the Internet during installation, allowing you to select only those you want (the installer is like the one on the !Alternate CD). See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD
[04:08] <TashKavarish> I have a problem getting 1920x1200 working, its specified in xorg.conf but for some reason the logs shows its not valid
[04:08] <Kraeloc_> ZOMG UBUNTU 7.04 IS BETTER THAN SEX!!
[04:08] <Kraeloc_> ahem
[04:08] <Kraeloc_> it had to be said...
[04:09] <kalifonria909> does the default grub detect raid arrays
[04:09] <TashKavarish> even a regenarated xorg.conf hasnt changed anything, neither has adding a modeline
[04:09] <lmosher> HasratUSA, Hm.. someone made a mistake on the fiesty version of ubuntuguide.org then! Normally I install the stuff myself, but ubuntuguide told me that the directions below were fishy and I should use albert's
[04:09] <Supaplex> Kraeloc_: it's unix for unics
[04:09] <Michael> Hi everyone.
[04:09] <nibsa1242> setuid while not the same card its related to the problems I've seen with my X800... only with the X800 Edgy had that problem after install where gdm couldn't be found
[04:09] <lufis> hi michael :)
[04:09] <cpare> Kraeloc - I am not so sure,
[04:09] <Jordan_U> kalifonria909, If they are true hardware RAID, yes
[04:09] <lmosher> HasratUSA: Ok so anyway, how do I repair this?
[04:09] <cpare> Kraeloc - lets wait for the Berly integration in the next release
[04:10] <bobi> can anyone help with configuring a Logitech communicator STX webcam? USB ID 046d:08f5 Logitech, Inc.
[04:10] <Azureday> is anyone using Broadcom wireless adapter?
[04:10] <seamus7> HI.. love Feisty.. I have two profiles saved in the Networking manual config screen.. one profile for roaming with Network Manager and one profile for a static IP setup to use when torrent sharing .... when I switch from the roaming profile (which works with Network Manager) to the static IP profile, the network doesn't reconnect right away ... Do I need to restart something in particular for everything to reset itself quickly and work eas
[04:10] <seamus7> ily?
[04:10] <TashKavarish> i found how to disabled edid to see if i could bypass and force it but that sticks me in just 800x600
[04:10] <atlantia> so modprobe -l says ipw3945, but no wireless devices exist, according to iwconfig
[04:10] <atlantia> what do i do?
[04:10] <lmosher> eck, Ok the kernel module is too new, how do I upgrade one or downgrade the other?
[04:11] <cypruser> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16707/  I'm having errors updating to Feisty. Please help.
[04:11] <renato> Supaplex: Thank you
[04:11] <renato> ubotu: thank you very much... I will try it right now
[04:11] <HasratUSA> Imosher http://albertomilone.com/wordpress/?p=73 << here you will see that he is still working on it and has already receieved from Ubuntu developers the necessary files he needs to develop a version for feisty
[04:11] <NeoTheOne-> any one use wifi with chipset atheros?
[04:11] <konami__> packages are mostly failing to download in feisty. if anybody knows why this may be let me know, thanks.
[04:11] <bobi> Is anyone using a Logitech communicator STX webcam? USB ID 046d:08f5 Logitech, Inc.
[04:11] <Azureday> you can download a kernel source
[04:11] <knix_> Does anyone have time to explain NX to me please?
[04:11] <Azureday> and compile your own kernel
[04:11] <renato> :)
[04:11] <root__> lol my name is root because I joined through sudo
[04:11] <adamowitz> how do i swap the option/alt key and the command/apple key in feisty on macbook pro?
[04:12] <kalifonria909> can anyone tell me why i get an error message of cannot load operating system instead of a grub message
[04:12] <iamtim> Can I upgrade from debian sid to ubuntu feisty by changing the sources.list and apt-get dist-upgrade?
[04:12] <shawn-NH> Brand-new to Linux(2 days!)... Installed 7.04 with Nvidia driver, cannot enable driver from Restricted drivers box... any ideas?
[04:12] <eck> lmosher: you might be out of luck, i have heard other people having trouble with the nvidia modules being too old
[04:12] <knix_> !nx
[04:12] <ubotu> FreeNX is advanced remote desktop technology. For more information and install instructions, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeNX
[04:12] <lmosher> HasratUSA, I'm happy you know all about Albertomilone's life. Do you also know how I can fix my problem?
[04:12] <eck> lmosher: of course you can try to upgrade X, but that would be very nontrivial
[04:12] <HasratUSA> Hell i can't wait to buy and plant a wireless card in my desktop and reproduce some problems that some of you are having. what would be the most incompatible wireless card i should buy to challange myself?
[04:12] <nu-> Is there a task-bar addon that shows mem/cpu usage?
[04:12] <seamus7> atlantia: have you enabled it in Networking or through the Network Manager
[04:12] <lmosher> eck: I'm sure I can reverse it, I've done more :/
[04:13] <TashKavarish> so can anyone help me get 1920x1200 working ?
[04:13] <lmosher> eck: though I shouldn't have used that automated program.  He has made life for nVIDIA and ATI owners so easy!
[04:13] <pimpnasty> Is there a memory adress editor like tsearch or money editor for linux
[04:13] <mojo> knix_: nx runs a 'x server' on the server and sends compressed update info to the client-end, and has a design that attempts to remove much of the latency inherent in the x protocol
[04:13] <atlantia> seamus7, let me check one se
[04:13] <bobi> Anyone knows of a webcam that works out of the box on feisty?
[04:13] <cypruser> Can I upgrade Ubuntu by using the installation CD?
[04:13] <pimpnasty> Is there a memory adress editor like tsearch or money editor for linux
[04:14] <knix_> mojo, I appreciate that.   Im just not really getting the jist of it.  I installed the server, but what about the clients?   Does a client connect to the server, then what?
[04:14] <seamus7> cypruser: I used the Alternate CD to upgrade
[04:14] <atlantia> seamus7, doesn't show up, even though the module is loaded, and a new set of processes have shown up in ps -A
[04:14] <atlantia> seamus7, ipw3945 based processes*
[04:14] <pimpnasty> Is there a memory adress editor like tsearch or money editor for linux
[04:15] <ep2011> for partitioning, should I do 10 gb for / and 70 for /home? any ideas? i have 250 gb to share with windows and ubuntu
[04:15] <HasratUSA> Imosher I don't know but I'm trying to know. I recommend that you be patient while we delve deep into your problem :-D
[04:15] <cypruser> seamus7: Will it overwrite my current configurations?
[04:15] <seamus7> atlantia: hmmm i'm on ipw3945 and it worked by default on feisty
[04:15] <mojo> knix_: yeah, you need the nomachine nx client for linux to talk to the nxserver on the machine you want to connect to
[04:15] <eck> lmosher: it's really a problem with nvidia. upstream X.org makes changes to X11, and the changes require updated drivers. I guess nvidia hasn't released drivers that are new enough, and their beta drivers must track CVS or something like that
[04:15] <mojo> knix_: nomachine is the company behind nx
[04:15] <seamus7> cypruser: no
[04:16] <knix_> mojo, so the server just sits there and directs to the clients?  I know about nomachine, but no one is answering me on there
[04:16] <Crema10> reazn: i did what you said, apt-get update, apt-get upgrade and then apt-get dist-upgrade... but when i did the last part, it doesnt do anything...
[04:16] <seamus7> cypruser: but with all large upgrades you need to expect to reconfigure some things
[04:16] <bobo> I am thinking about swiching to linux which distro should i try first?
[04:16] <Terramel> How can I use 1280x800 in  feisty with a Intel GML 940 driver ?
[04:16] <mojo> knix_: yeah
[04:16] <mig96> I'm a total noob, so please don't laugh.  So I start Feisty, and then the mouse moves, but won't click or when I mouse over something nothing shows up.  Why?  (This is Ubuntu, so it's Gnome not Kubuntu)
[04:17] <crdlb> Terramel, use 915resolution
[04:17] <HasratUSA> by any chance is google.com down tonight?
[04:17] <Crema10> reazn: it reads packages, building dependecies, reads state ifnormation then calculates upgrade, but after that it does nothing
[04:17] <reazn> try system > administraton > update manager
[04:17] <delire> bobo: gentoo of course. actually fedora.. what do you think.. this is #ubuntu sheesh!
[04:17] <Jordan_U> Crema10, Are you trying to upgrade to Feisty?
[04:17] <Jack3> I booted the live CD and tried the install icon, and it wont let me resize my windows NTFS partition
[04:17] <Keldoor> is there a basic grub how to.... im a n00b... to boot managers
[04:17] <eck> HasratUSA: i sincerely doubt it...
[04:17] <Crema10> Jordan_U: yes
[04:17] <crdlb> !info 915resolution feisty | Terramel
[04:17] <ubotu> terramel: 915resolution: resolution modification tool for Intel graphic chipset. In component universe, is extra. Version 0.5.2-10ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 14 kB, installed size 124 kB (Only available for i386 amd64 kfreebsd-i386 kfreebsd-amd64)
[04:17] <Jack3> I thought it had an option to resize NTFS in ubuntu?
[04:17] <seamus7> cypruser: i ended up doing a complete reinstall of / since my /home is on its own partition ... and even then most of my configurations remained ... but with a fresh install of course I feel more confident about my system
[04:17] <mig96> no, it's my live cd that I burned recently
[04:17] <Terramel> crdlb : how can i do it? I tried apt-get but it didnt find it!
[04:17] <fucter> slackware > *
[04:17] <iamtim> Can I upgrade from debian sid to ubuntu feisty by changing the sources.list and apt-get dist-upgrade?
[04:17] <bobi> Anyone knows of a webcam that works out of the box on feisty?
[04:17] <Jordan_U> Crema10, Open System -> Administration -> Update Manager
[04:17] <knix_> mojo, I appreciate the help, Do I need to identify what clients need to connect to the server on the server?
[04:17] <ep2011> for partitioning, would a good plan be 10 gb for / and 70 for /home? any ideas? i have 250 gb to share with windows and ubuntu
[04:17] <njh> iamtim: expect pain
[04:18] <mojo> iamtim: ummm... that sounds dangerous to me but i have never tried it
[04:18] <eck> iamtim: probably not, I think a lot of the sid packages are probably newer than what is in feisty
[04:18] <crdlb> Terramel, did you type the name right?
[04:18] <konamikun>  /msg nickserv set unfiltered on
[04:18] <Terramel> then I tried enableing universe repositorios in sources.list, but when I updated, it said that I dont have space left (I'm running the LIVECD)
[04:18] <bobo> when is herd1 of gutsy gibbon comming out?
[04:18] <konamikun> ah
[04:18] <eck> iamtim: I have done it from debian stable, but i don't think it would work from sid
[04:18] <HYPOCRISY> ?
[04:18] <Flannel> !gutsy | bobo
[04:18] <ubotu> bobo: Gutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10). See https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel-announce/2007-April/000276.html and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GutsyReleaseSchedule
[04:18] <Terramel> crdlb : I'm running liveCD, do you think its because of it?
[04:18] <seamus7> atlantia: sorry i wish i could help you further but i'm not that advanced
[04:18] <Terramel> I didnt installed yet
[04:18] <crdlb> Terramel, oh you're not going to get it working on the livecd
[04:18] <Jordan_U> Jack3, It should let you resize NTFS, did it give an error?
[04:18] <acorn22> wow 1200 people in here?
[04:18] <cypruser> Can I upgrade, without deleting any of my files, to Feisty by using the regular installation CD?
[04:18] <Crema10> Jordan_U: I see it, thanks! :)
[04:18] <crdlb> Terramel, because you'll need to restart X anyway
[04:18] <HasratUSA> acorn that's nothing
[04:18] <mojo> knix_: it has been a minute since i played with it.. you can, iirc, either set up security by user or by server
[04:19] <acorn22> I'm used to like 20
[04:19] <Terramel> crdlb : but in the livecd I got Compiz and GL working very well... Do you think I can get the resolution working if I install it?
[04:19] <knix_> mojo, ty
[04:19] <Jack3> Jordan_U, I basically clicked Manual in the options, and then it showed a list, and i clicked edit
[04:19] <Son-Riab> Hi! Could anybody told me, if the ubuntu Bittorrent-Tracker is down?
[04:19] <crdlb> Terramel, yeah you should be able to
[04:19] <rbil> Terramel: when running LiveCD it's running in RAM. The hard drive it's using is really just a ram drive.
[04:19] <acorn22> hey, anyone know about Logitech MX Mice?
[04:19] <Terramel> crdlb : thanx :)
[04:19] <mig96> @bobo : Gutsy gibbon Tribe 1 you mean.   June 7, 2007
[04:19] <mojo> knix_: it uses ssh methinks so there are ssh keys
[04:19] <njh> just upgraded from edgy to feisty.  I'm getting brief screen lockups every few seconds.  Any suggestions?
[04:19] <Terramel> So I'm leaving to backup my old files and install feisty ;D
[04:19] <Terramel> thank you very much
[04:19] <knix_> mojo, roger
[04:19] <Terramel> [] s
[04:19] <Whiz2> bofh80 sorry about that. I'm back now
[04:19] <Keldoor> on a ubuntu.. dapper install... what is the command to start xserver?
[04:19] <Dante123> new way to add codecs in feisty?  is it through firefox as needed
[04:19] <eck> Son-Riab: I believe it was down earlier today, i'm not sure what the status is now
[04:20] <damian> Hi guys, happy feisty day :0
[04:20] <mojo> knix_: g/l... google up some articles on it.  there is also a windows client, too.
[04:20] <musya> whats a good editor like dreamweaver.....forgot what its called, wsygnm...something like that
[04:20] <HasratUSA> Son-Riab it shouldn't be down. I'm downloading both Ubuntu and Kubuntu feisty fawn isos for burning and distributing purposes from ftp servers and didn't pay heed to canonical's request to go for torrents for downloading purposes
[04:20] <knix_> mojo, ty
[04:20] <vox754> !party
[04:20] <ubotu> Please remember that #ubuntu, #kubuntu, #xubuntu, and #edubuntu are support channels.  To countdown to Feisty release and then party once it happens, join #ubuntu-release-party - for in-person parties, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeistyReleaseParties
[04:20] <Jack3> Jordan_U, at step 4 it says prepare disk space
[04:20] <damian> I have a problem with compiz, for some reason I can't change between worspaces
[04:20] <HasratUSA> happy feisty days to you too damian. how are you doing today?
[04:20] <acorn22> hey, anyone know about Logitech MX Mice?
[04:20] <Jordan_U> Keldoor, sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[04:20] <ep2011> for partitioning, would a good plan be 10 gb for / and 70 for /home? any ideas? i have 250 gb to share with windows and ubuntu...
[04:21] <musya> anyone konw?
[04:21] <pimpnasty> Is there a memory adress editor like tsearch or money editor for linux
[04:21] <musya> know*
[04:21] <eck> ep2011: yeah, that's more than enough
[04:21] <mojo> Feisty on 4/20.. i'll toke to that
[04:21] <vox754> ep2011, you could create additional partitions for /usr and maybe /var and /boot
[04:21] <Son-Riab> eck: THX
[04:21] <damian> Hasrat, for some reason the workspaces in compiz stoped working
[04:21] <njh> pimpnasty: gdb?
[04:21] <TashKavarish> thought feisty had been released?
[04:21] <pimpnasty> gdlb?
[04:21] <slyfox> Is this jut me or Task in evolution are useless because when I set a due date on for the task, it does not show up on the calendar. Help.
[04:21] <Terramel> TashKavarish : Yes
[04:21] <ep2011> vox754 what would be the point of  seperate /usr, /var and /boot
[04:21] <HasratUSA> damian may be you would have to add some more workspaces? i'm taking a guess
[04:21] <Keldoor> thanks... jordan_u
[04:21] <fucter> ubuntu FTL
[04:22] <axiom> is there a workaround for upgrading to feisty requiring 50mb of free space on /boot?
[04:22] <HasratUSA> damian you have to press control+alter and then rotate the mouse. did you know that?
[04:22] <mig96> hello?
[04:22] <mig96> ...
[04:22] <Hess> Howdy all
[04:22] <[ALEX] > Hello?
[04:22] <Son-Riab> HasratUSA: I can not connect to peers, so i am sure, that the tracker ist down! ;)
[04:22] <Hess> hiya alex
[04:22] <TokenBad> ok been trying to install this new ubuntu and after got the root stuff sorted it goes to mounting the swap part..and says it can't and fails..I have removed it...remade it...2 or 3 times and always get the same responce when I go to install...
[04:22] <eck> ep2011: if you want you can use LVM and grow out the space later on, but I only use ~6GB for all of / (not including/home) in total, so i'm not sure if it's worth it
[04:22] <fucter> slackware.com
[04:22] <HasratUSA> Son-Riab hell with torrents. get 'em all from FTP
[04:22] <Jack3> jordan_u, so i clicked manual, and it takes me to a list of partitoins called PrePare Partitions
[04:22] <damian> It doesn't do anything hasrat, after I installed feisty was working but now it's not
[04:22] <Jack3> so i dunno what to do from there
[04:22] <ep2011> eck LVM?
[04:22] <TokenBad> can anyone help me get this to install?
[04:23] <Stoffer> do you guys know of an app that preferrably closes another application at a scheduled time?  I'd settle for one that'll shut down my system.
[04:23] <mojo> damian: you mean with the traditional workspace switcher?  compiz/beryl use 'viewports' and the ws switcher sees them as one big wide workspace.  i have my cube with 4 viewports but ws switcher set to one wkspace
[04:23] <vox754> ep2011, /boot could hold all your kernels.    /usr is where most applications are installed, actually you may have a 2 GB / but a 15 /usr , /var could hold temporary data like mail and temporary files, also if you wish /tmp
[04:23] <pimpnasty> Is there a memory adress editor like tsearch or money editor for linux
[04:23] <Hess> token can you run the live cd ok?
[04:23] <seamus7> ep2011: i'm on a laptop with 160GB.. I give / 8GB, /home 100GB and Vista 40GB. Works well for me. A new Feisty install with a couple of programs added takes up a total of 2.5GB in /.
[04:23] <mojo> damian: but the end result looks and operaties like a ws switcher with 4 wkspaces
[04:23] <damian> maybe I change something in the config?
[04:23] <eck> !lvm > ep2011
[04:23] <TokenBad> hess the live cd is running fine
[04:23] <slyfox> Is this jut me or Tasks in evolution are useless because when I set a due date on for the task, it does not show up on the calendar. Help.
[04:23] <fucter> ban me
[04:23] <usser> Stoffer: try cron
[04:23] <fucter> chuck == gays
[04:23] <aburton> can someone help me get windows booting now that feisty's grub install has messed it up?
[04:23] <fucter> LAWLZ
[04:24] <anandanbu> hi im facing a problem after updating the openoffice.org packages today the icons are a bit weird
[04:24] <axiom> Stoffer, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cron
[04:24] <musya> anyone know of a good web creating software for ubuntu much like dreamweaver for windows?
[04:24] <damian> Hasrat how you create new workspaces? I forgot :(
[04:24] <Hess> I would try and use gpart and blow away the parts then try again.. it gave me hell too
[04:24] <Son-Riab> HasratUSA: ;) Donwload is complete, but i want to share them! ;)
[04:24] <TokenBad> Hess, I did that
[04:24] <pimpnasty>  Is there a memory adress editor for linux?
[04:24] <pimpnasty> !memory
[04:24] <anandanbu> how can i change it to the default tango like icons
[04:24] <ubotu> A quick FAQ on Memory Management: http://gentoo-wiki.com/FAQ_Linux_Memory_Management For Lubos Lunak's desktop memory usage comparison, see: http://ktown.kde.org/~seli/memory/desktop_benchmark.html
[04:24] <eck> musya: the closest thing is nvu, but it is pretty far from feature parity with dreamweaver
[04:24] <Hess> hummm no idea then bro :( sorry
[04:24] <TashKavarish> how do i get 1920x1200 working? ddcprobe lists it but putting it in xorg.conf doesnt work, modeline or not
[04:24] <pimpnasty>  Is there a memory adress editor for linux?
[04:24] <ep2011> s it useful to have /usr seperate
[04:24] <aburton> Should I ask somewhere else?
[04:24] <eck> pimpnasty: /dev/mem
[04:24] <Katrina> I have jbouncer and bitlee running on the same server, is there any way I can make jbouncer connect to it? Every time I try to make them connect my proxy hangs. Jbouncer conencts to any server other than my own. I've tried localhost, <IP_ADDRESS> and <IP_ADDRESS> - they are on different ports - any ideas on making it work? or at least ideas for seeing where this is failing?
[04:25] <slyfox> Anyone here uses Evolution mail client ?
[04:25] <ZombiekE> hello I would like to resize my current linux partition, however gparted doesn't let me do it... how can I enlarge it with the extra space?
[04:25] <BrandonG_> Can anyone recommend some less crowded ubuntu-related chat rooms?
[04:25] <Azureday> grub can't install?
[04:25] <konamikun> really, anybody know what this may be, downloads are failing a lot and package list is incomplete. tried a few different servers, same results.
[04:25] <HasratUSA> aburton i personally wouldn't care to boot windows after seeing what GNU/Linux has to offer and how it changes one's life. but anyways there is a how-to on how to fix grub after you knowingly mess it up by installing winblows after GNU/Linux
[04:25] <Hess> lol
[04:25] <mojo> BrandonG_: <grin>
[04:25] <Hess> thats funny brandon
[04:25] <slyfox> ZombiekE: you have to unmounit first with gparted before uou can do anything with it
[04:25] <aburton> HasratUSA:  I didn't install it after linux
[04:26] <aburton> HasratUSA: I installed windows first
[04:26] <ZombiekE> slyfox, but it is my current linux install, is it safe?
[04:26] <Khoix> where's the list of current processes in gnome?
[04:26] <BrandonG_> So I take that as a no
[04:26] <eck> pimpnasty: you can edit it with whatever you want (if you are root)
[04:26] <Azureday> of course
[04:26] <usser> Khoix: top
[04:26] <rbil> Khoix: system monitor
[04:26] <usser> Khoix: command top
[04:26] <Azureday> and grub is at default being installed on MBR at installtion
[04:26] <aburton> HasratUSA:  everything worked fine until I installed feisty over my edgy install
[04:26] <slyfox> ZombiekE: then you have to either burn a gparted iso and have this disk for future and use it now and boot form it and resize your partition, or boot with the live cd and use gparted from there
[04:26] <ep2011> okay, im about to do it, i think ill just do / 10gb and /home 80gb, does that sound fine?
[04:26] <mojo> BrandonG_: there are ubuntu channels for some specific topics, like #ubuntu-effects for compiz/beryl stuff... do a search on the chan list for ubuntu and you'll likely get several hits.  you use xchat?
[04:26] <Hess> its taken rythembox 6 hours to arrange 36gigs of music...
[04:26] <Khoix> usser: thanks
[04:26] <damian> Hasrat?
[04:27] <dtholden> whats the effects channel?
[04:27] <slyfox> Anyone please, who uses Evolution mail ?
[04:27] <TashKavarish> guess the lack of replies means noone knows/cares?
[04:27] <aburton> Sorry slyfox
[04:27] <seamus7> aburton: you can also try downloading a Super Grub Disk (google it) and use it to reinstall Grub (which should recognize your windows and include it).
[04:27] <aburton> I don't
[04:27] <pimpnasty>  Is there a memory adress editor for linux?
[04:27] <Admiral_Chicago> dtholden: #ubuntu-effects ?
[04:27] <eck> slyfox: I use it,but not the tasks component
[04:27] <Hess> we care tash.. just dont know
[04:27] <HasratUSA> !grub | aburton
[04:27] <hector> i want to play the 3d chess, what are the libraries i have to install
[04:27] <BrandonG_> Yup - xchat
[04:27] <Whiz2> bofh80 you still around?
[04:27] <ZombiekE> thanks slyfox :) I will do so (boot from live cd and do it from there)
[04:27] <mojo> BrandonG_: on xchat, open Window>Channel List, download the list, then put ubuntu in the filter and apply it... you'll get the ubuntu related channels on freenode
[04:27] <ubotu> aburton: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[04:27] <vox754> ep2011, yeah, but trust me, and create other partitions, like /media/DATA just as a backup, since you have a lot of space.
[04:27] <damian> Hasrat i must deleted something because before it worked
[04:28] <TashKavarish> Hess:  thanks for replying, at least i know someone seens this now :)
[04:28] <HasratUSA> aburton oh okay so you installed windows first, not the opposite
[04:28] <BrandonG_> mojo: you rock
[04:28] <slyfox> eck: Man, I am just shocked that when I set a date for the task, it does not show up on the calendar, it makes the whole calendar useless. What do you use for task management ?
[04:28] <BrandonG_> Thanks for the tip
[04:28] <ep2011> vox754: since im still sort of a beginner (only used edgy for about a month) can you tell me which ones I should do and the benifits?
[04:28] <mojo> BrandonG_: that's how I roll...  l)
[04:28] <Hess> Yeah bro.. I know it frustrating... If I could help ya I would
[04:28] <mojo> :)
[04:28] <JiBEsH> how can I mount a repertory from a windows server please ?
[04:28] <drascus321> good evening room
[04:28] <Rictoo> Is there a google earth package in some repo?
[04:28] <mojo> JiBEsH: "repertory"???
[04:28] <lmosher> how do you force apt to downgrade to an old version?
[04:28] <vox754> ep2011, I already mentioned ... maybe you missed them
[04:28] <TashKavarish> btw if anyone seens penguin42 thank him/her for helping me fix my network
[04:28] <fucter> NIGGERS
[04:28] <HasratUSA> mojo reportoire
[04:29] <fucter> NIGGERS
[04:29] <fucter> NIGGERS
[04:29] <fucter> NIGGERS
[04:29] <fucter> NIGGERS
[04:29] <ep2011> vox754: I saw them, i should do all of those?
[04:29] <Rictoo> fucter, what the hell?
[04:29] <fucter> LAWLZ
[04:29] <mojo> HasratUSA: repository?
[04:29] <cypruser> fucter: That's not nice.
[04:29] <mojo> iggy fucter
[04:29] <Hess> lol thanks :)
[04:29] <TokenBad> is there a way to scan the drives from live cd?
[04:29] <eck> slyfox: I have added things a few times by clicking on the calendar up in the clock applet, but generally I just try to keep track of things in my head :-)
[04:29] <swedekid> can anyone help me get my sound card to work?
[04:29] <vox754> ep2011, /home, /, /boot, /usr, /media/DATA, I suggest /boot like 100 MB with ext2
[04:29] <Hess> what sound card swed?
[04:29] <eck> Rictoo: afaik you need to download the version google distributes
[04:30] <TokenBad> he is just trying to get under peoples skin and act bad on here cause in real life he has no life
[04:30] <seamus7> swedekid: did you open volume control and preferences from the sound icon and try each option, umute, etc... ?
[04:30] <swedekid> forgot, :/ what do you type in terminal to find out
[04:30] <drascus321> has anyone tried the restricted drivers manager?
[04:30] <slyfox> eck: how can you add tasks form the clock? I only see adjsut time option
[04:30] <atlantia> seamus7, ok so updat: got it working, but it is STRANGE: when i hit f2 it actuvates radio (no light) dmesg complains, saying it should be turned off to work, but than i used iwconfig to set essid, and than turned it off and it worked
[04:30] <TokenBad> is there a way to scan and repair drives from live cd?
[04:30] <atlantia> seamus7, i guess my question is, how do i make this p[aractical, i used connectoin-manager in edgy
[04:30] <alienseer23> !nvidia
[04:30] <LordLimecat> TokenBad: in what way?
[04:30] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[04:30] <atlantia> seamus7, practical*
[04:30] <vox754> ep2011, /home your size, /  3 GB, /boot  100 MB, /usr   15 GB, /media/DATA whatever you like 10 GB this
[04:30] <eck> slyfox: left click the clock, and double click a date in the calendar
[04:31] <lbci_irc> quick ?... do you need to leave myth-frontend open after scheduling shows?
[04:31] <swedekid> seamus7: no, tried a couple, didnt work, ill try the other ones now
[04:31] <LordLimecat> TokenBad: just so you know, you CAN install stuff on a live CD (it gets  installed to ram).....gparted is good for diagnostic
[04:31] <cypruser> Ubuntu should be more like Windows.
[04:31] <LordLimecat> lol?
[04:31] <eck> Rictoo: i am not even sure that google earth is distributed under a license that would allow it to be put in repositories
[04:31] <HasratUSA> TokenBad no you got it all wrong. He is just too sad because he bought a desktop with Vista preinstalled in it and now finds out that he would need to shed some more 200-400 dollars on hardware upgrades to even dream of running vista
[04:31] <TokenBad> LordLimecat, well I have tried removing parttions and all that from drives and everytime try to install it errors out
[04:31] <JiBEsH> how can I mount a repository from a windows server please ?
[04:31] <Keldoor> im trying to install a nvidia driver... and it want's to complie the driver... and needs the source distro that i have... i have no idea how to figure out if i have them and if not where to get them
[04:31] <Hess> swed try this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=305269&highlight=gx1+audio
[04:31] <TokenBad> so want to know if there is a way to scan the drives and repair if they need it from the live cd
[04:32] <Azureday> Are your wireless adapter working well?
[04:32] <crdlb> eck, it has a eula, so probably not :)
[04:32] <Azureday> Mine doesn't work
[04:32] <ep2011> vox754: if you have a seperate /boot and reinstall ubuntu, wouldn't it have conflicts?
[04:32] <eck> JiBEsH: what exactly are you trying to mount?
[04:32] <Azureday> Broadcom BCM4318
[04:32] <ep2011> vox754: because of the extra kernels
[04:32] <mojo> lbci_irc: fyi, not to be rude, but there is #ubuntu-mythtv too if you need more help
[04:32] <dom> hi all
[04:32] <rbil> cypruser: you mean price wise or insecurity wise? or unsable wise?
[04:32] <Hess> howdy dom
[04:32] <lbci_irc> ty mojo will try there
[04:32] <dom> just installed 7.04 on my desktop. very happy :)
[04:32] <musya> man those servers are taking a bad beating arnt they?
[04:32] <cypruser> I mean, compatibility wise.
[04:32] <kingcobra> cypruser, go away windoze is not worthy of ubuntu
[04:33] <musya> when should the traffice clear up?
[04:33] <mojo> lbci_irc: may also be a #mythtv chan :D
[04:33] <Cactii> Anybody have a torrent for AMD64
[04:33] <Pelo> Keldoor,  are you following a howto ? the info should be in there
[04:33] <Cactii> ???
[04:33] <Cactii> !torrent
[04:33] <ubotu> Torrent clients: Azureus (Java), BitTornado (Shell with python front-end), KTorrent (KDE/Qt)  -  Bittorent FAQ: http://www.bittorrent.com/FAQ.html
[04:33] <rbil> cypruser: compatible with what?
[04:33] <lbci_irc> /leave
[04:33] <seamus7> atlantia: hmmm.. with mine.. on boot up ... Network Manager appears in the notification area and looks for wireless netowrks ... I had set one up previously and included the ESSID and password, etc... network manager does this automatically ... Do you have nm-applet under Sessions/StartUp Programs?
[04:33] <Pelo> !nvidia > keldor if not , check your pm for some instructions
[04:33] <vox754> ep2011, well I don't think so, supposedly /boot maybe independent and even shared by different distros, because it only holds the kernel and the boot loader, which may work with any Linux
[04:33] <cypruser> Compatible with more applications.
[04:33] <swedekid> seamus7: none of them worked, what do i type in terminal to find out the type of it?
[04:33] <hector> i want flash player on firefox, how do i do it?
[04:33] <atlantia> seamus7, heh Network Manager still says I dont have a wireless device
[04:33] <rbil> cypruser: you mean windows applications?
[04:33] <wastrel> hello
[04:33] <cypruser> rbil: Yes.
[04:33] <atlantia> seamus7, but networking dialog in admin does
[04:33] <cables> For some reason, I cannot seed the Feisty torrent :(
[04:34] <MUBadly> hello
[04:34] <ep2011> vox754: as a beginner though, I don't really see a point for most of those... :\ all I see a point for is /home and /, and probably /usr, but maybe im wrong?
[04:34] <kingcobra> cypruser, dont be stupid
[04:34] <cables> I can't get above 20 kB/s!
[04:34] <TokenBad> I guess what I mean by scan and repair is like windows scandisk that can scan and repair...even though the disk are formated...it still errors out...and thats all I can think of left to get this to work
[04:34] <rbil> cypruser: why would one want to run windows apps under Linux?
[04:34] <atlantia> seamus7, nm it is there now
[04:34] <Keldoor> no the info isn't there  the program driver from nvidia.. keeps telling me to do this and that...so far im up to compiling..
[04:34] <swedekid> hector: try typing this in terminakl "sudo apt-get install flash" see if that works
[04:34] <Pelo> !torrents > Cactyii1 check you pms
[04:34] <atlantia> seamus7, let me reboot and see what happens
[04:34] <seamus7> atlantia: in Manual Configuration (which is Networking under the System menu) set all of your interfaces to roaming
[04:34] <rbil> cypruser: use Windows to run Windows apps.
[04:34] <cypruser> rbil: I want to play cool games.
[04:34] <Whiz2> rbil some windows apps aren't available for linux. perhaps he wants to be able to use them but no longer has windows
[04:35] <dom> WINE, anyone?
[04:35] <atlantia> seamus7, ( i have not even figured out how i am going to get nvidia latest working yet with envy gone... may have to start over onthat experience, d/l from nvidia etc)
[04:35] <JonTec> !flash
[04:35] <hrp2171> cedega
[04:35] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[04:35] <ubotu> Flash 9 (Final release) is now available for dapper-backports and edgy-backports. See !backports and !flash
[04:35] <Pelo> dom,   #winehq
[04:35] <Vessquire> Can anyone point me to a tutorial on setting up my feisty server to run nat/act as a gateway?
[04:35] <Rolando> Whiz2:  wine
[04:35] <atlantia> seamus7, ok will do let me do that and reboot, see what works and what doesn't
[04:35] <rbil> Whiz2: well Linux doesn't need to be compatible with those games, those games need to be compatible with Linux
[04:35] <Whiz2> cypruser apt-get install wine
[04:35] <vox754> ep2011, I'm not that a hacker, but I think you should consider /boot also, ext2 100MB, each kernel is 16 MB so you have room for like 6 kernels, it's cool. But the simple answer is you are not wrong, whatever choice you make is the right one.
[04:35] <fellacious> hay gyz
[04:35] <fellacious> Not enough free disk space
[04:35] <fellacious> The upgrade aborts now. Please free at least 392M of disk space on /usr. Empty your trash and remove temporary packages of former installations using 'sudo apt-get clean'
[04:35] <forresty> wow. so many guys here
[04:35] <eck> Vessquire: tbh, you should just use a router
[04:36] <fellacious> even tho
[04:36] <swedekid> seamus7: none of the things in the preferences worked, what do i type to find out the type of sound card?
[04:36] <Malachi> What do I do if Edgy's update manager won't recognize the new feisty?
[04:36] <fellacious> /dev/hda2              12G   10G  1.3G  89% /
[04:36] <Vessquire> eck, I don't want to use a router.
[04:36] <seamus7> swedekid: sorry i can't help you further ... there's a good sound troubleshooting page on Ubuntu Forums .... good luck
[04:36] <fellacious> i have 1.3G of space and it tells me to free at least 392M?
[04:36] <root__> what packages do I need to grab off of apt-get to get my nvidia drivers working again
[04:36] <scot524> swedekid: did u try lspci?
[04:36] <fellacious> does it mean free 392 more M?
[04:36] <Pelo> !upgrade > Malachi   check you pm
[04:36] <root__> what packages do I need to grab off of apt-get to get my nvidia drivers working again
[04:36] <Whiz2> rbil perhaps, but why not just let ppl do it anyway?
[04:36] <ep2011> vox754: I think ill keep it simple so I dont get confused and do something wrong. I could always fix it later though. Thanks for teaching me about it, you've been a great help.
[04:37] <hrp2171> whats up, nvidia-settings question: I've enabled twinview with nvidia-xconfig --twinview but when i run nvidia-settings from terminal, I don't get an option to tweak twinview with the gui.
[04:37] <Whiz2> rbil it's what the package was made for
[04:37] <swedekid> scot524: yes thats it, thanks, i couldnt remember it
[04:37] <soothsay> Is there a guide for building a router with Ubuntu (Feisty)?
[04:37] <vox754> ep2011, yes sir!
[04:37] <crdlb> hrp2171, what version of the nvidia drivers?