[02:14] <yosa> hey
[02:14] <yosa> hello
[02:15]  * genii-around sips
[02:18] <AlexZion> hi everyone , I have some strange problem in amarok ....., a post-it is appeared on the context window of amarok ..., I don't even know how I did and how to remove ...., it's normal !?!
[02:18] <AlexZion> http://wstaw.org/m/2012/06/08/plasma-desktopSa2343.png
[02:19] <Phiscribe> doesnt look like part of amarok, some kinda other widget or plasma thing
[02:20] <AlexZion> yeah is a widget that normally goes on the desktop ...., probablly a kind of bug in amarok I guess ..., but I was just working and I don't know how I did it ....
[02:21] <AlexZion> http://wstaw.org/m/2012/06/08/plasma-desktopnZ2343.png
[02:22] <AlexZion> and seems quite impossible to remove .. :O
[02:24] <Phiscribe> is it knotes, which app is the note thing
[02:26] <AlexZion> ahh ok , I got it ...., with right click , but just when I'm on similar artists tab http://wstaw.org/m/2012/06/08/plasma-desktopoo2343.png
[02:27] <AlexZion> it should be knode I guess ...., the default one on the kde desktop....
[02:28] <AlexZion> ops sorry knotes ...
[02:30] <Phiscribe> there is a shotcut key to make a new note, meta N or something maybe (not in kubuntu right now), maybe amarok is sending key stroke, or something
[02:30] <AlexZion> anyway , closing amaron and reopening it , the notes desappears .....
[02:31] <AlexZion> well , normally on the desk , I use the middle mouse button .... , but it doesn't works on amarok normally .....
[02:56] <maco> I upgraded from 11.04 to 11.10, and now plasma network manager thinks I lack a wireless card. "ifconfig" & "ip -a" see it though. Any idea how to convince plasma of the error of its ways?
[03:00] <Phiscribe> did you check the restricted drives to see if there is a driver for your wireless card, first thing to try,
[03:09] <dbenson> hello, does anyone know how to restart the kde panel?  Mine has disappeared/crashed...
[03:10] <maco> My card had never required restricted drivers before...
[03:11] <maco> Nope, my hardware is still 100% free drivers
[03:11] <maco> (I'd be very disappointed if Intel suddenly had proprietary drivers)
[03:12] <genii-around> dbenson: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1264937
[03:17] <dbenson> genii-around: thanks!  I didn't know it was called plasma so my search wasn't productive...
[03:24] <Phiscribe> just giving the lowest common dneomotator, before i look at zip files
[03:44] <maco> Hmm it seems wpa_supplicant is involved. I can't configure the interface from command line either, and syslog says wpa_supplixanr failed to initiate AP scan. I can use iwlist fine though, so driver and card should be ok
[05:05] <kullix> question: how does one add fluxbox to kubuntu manually?
[05:07] <Phiscribe> with a little bit of flux a little bit of box all mix with some weed and hard liquor
[05:09] <kullix> yes, i suspected
[05:10] <Phiscribe> sudo apt-get install fluxbox    probably get you going, no idea how to go back
[05:11] <almoxarife> can i get someone to share a virgin sources.list for kubuntu-12.04 please, pastebin is fine
[06:00] <noaXess> morning
[06:01] <noaXess> each moring, at this time 0730-0800.. updaatedb.mlocate is running.. how can i plan that into the night
[06:01] <noaXess> eg at 0400
[06:03] <noaXess> ok.. found the entry in /etc/crontab: 25 6    * * *   root    test -x /usr/sbin/anacron || ( cd / && run-parts --report /etc/cron.daily )
[06:03] <noaXess> but that means, it starts at 06:25... hm.. why is it now running?.. daylight saving time?
[06:13] <Phiscribe> didnt end properly? (the cron task)
[06:20] <noaXess> Phiscribe: i think it will end normally... but should start at 625 not 725
[07:11] <mcmillan> #channel
[07:15] <jesse2_> Hello.  first time using KDE in about 12 years.  So far, I love it! did have one question, though....
[07:16] <jesse2_> It seems when I place my cursor over certain apps (such as firefox... i think its all GTK apps), the mouse cursor changes.  does anyone know how to keep it consistent?
[07:16] <jesse2_> i had changed my cursor theme to whiteglass, but when i move the cursor over firefox, it reverts to the default oxygen white.
[07:29] <ucenik04> adad
[07:40] <c0d3br3ak3r> hey, i have installed compiz on my kubuntu and it has messed with my whole interface, it kind of look like unity now, but does not work good, can anyone help me resetting my interface on kubuntu with default kde.
[07:43] <c0d3br3ak3r> can anyone help me please..
[07:58] <c0d3br3ak3r> anyone know how to reset kde plasma interface
[08:14] <c0d3br3ak3r> is there anything like unity --reset for kde ..??
[08:20] <noaXess> hiw to change encodings of files?.. have utf-8 encoded txt files, but they shoudl be iso-8859-1
[08:23] <noaXess> ok.. iconv can do that..
[08:44] <lordievader> Good morning
[10:10] <nyuszika7h> Hi, I'm having an issue. plymouth is tainted on a clean Kubuntu 12.04 LTS installation (LVM, /home on separate logical volume), on boot I see some errors then instead of the boot logo, black screen. When I shut it down, I see lots of kernel errors instead of Plymouth splash screen then it powers off. Some errors: http://paste.debian.net/173360
[10:10] <nyuszika7h> I'm using the open source radeon ATI drivers, jockey-gtk seems to refuse to start so I'm stuck with that right now.
[10:11] <nyuszika7h> s/plymouth/plymouthd/
[10:22] <lordievader> nyuszika7h: Seems indeed that your ggfx driver is failing, instead of jockey-gtk try jockey-kde, perhaps with that you can install the non-free driver.
[10:23] <nyuszika7h> lordievader: Ok, I'll try it
[10:23] <nyuszika7h> (Note: Framebuffer and X11 look fine after boot, the issue is only on boot/shutdown)
[10:26] <lordievader> nyuszika7h: It seems that at the level of plymouth the driver fails, perhaps a non supported resolution is asked for or something.
[10:26] <nyuszika7h> Yeah, VESA doesn't support 1366x768 here
[10:27] <nyuszika7h> Though I didn't have this problem with the open source driver on Ubuntu, only since I use Kubuntu
[10:27] <lordievader> nyuszika7h: Oh really, perhaps the kubuntu theme is corrupted? Let's see if I can find the name for that plymouth customizing utility.
[10:29] <lordievader> nyuszika7h: Ah this is the one: http://www.noobslab.com/2011/11/install-plymouth-manager-and-change.html
[10:30] <nyuszika7h> I'll try it when I'm at home, thanks.
[10:30] <lordievader> nyuszika7h: No problem, hope you fix your problem.
[10:59] <Free_Bullets> I'm having trouble setting my keyboard's calculator button to launch a program. In custom shortcuts, it appears as "Launch (1)", but it doesn't work.
[11:07] <lordievader> Free_Bullets: Could you try running "xev
[11:07] <lordievader> Free_Bullets: "xev|grep keycode" *
[11:08] <lordievader> Free_Bullets: Then when you press the key it should give you somekind of identifier, something like XF86Calculator or something
[11:08] <Free_Bullets> lordievader: keycode 148
[11:08] <Free_Bullets> I found this thread, but there's nothing in those files for me: http://forum.kde.org/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=89602
[11:08] <lordievader> Free_Bullets: What does it say between ()
[11:09] <Free_Bullets> lordievader: (keysym 0x1008ff1d, XF86Calculator)
[11:10] <lordievader> Free_Bullets: Ok so it is being recognized, let me check if I can get it to work...
[11:10] <Free_Bullets> lordievader: oops, i found the files mentioned in that thread
[11:11] <lordievader> Free_Bullets: Oh okay.
[11:11] <lordievader> Hope that solution works.
[11:20] <Free_Bullets> lordievader: solved. Really should have googled before asking.
[11:20] <lordievader> Free_Bullets: It seems I have the same error/bug, you did find the launch (1) in those files?
[11:21] <Free_Bullets> lordievader: yep, and I replaced it with Calculator (XF86Calculator didn't work)
[11:21] <lordievader> Free_Bullets: Ok good to know :)
[11:27] <lordievader> Free_Bullets: Ok, it works here too :)
[11:28] <nyuszika7h> I love (yes, I mean hate) it how Muon just abandons all the package installations I marked earlier when I press full upgrade...
[11:29] <lordievader> nyuszika7h: I don't like Muon either, I just use apt-get or if I need a gui I use synaptic.
[11:29] <nyuszika7h> Hmm yes, Synaptic, I'll install that.
[11:30] <nyuszika7h> I had it when I used Unity :P
[11:32] <sky100> hi
[11:32] <lordievader> Hey sky100 how are you?
[11:32] <sky100> i tried to burn movies using k3b .. but its been failing miserabley
[11:33] <sky100> hey lordievader
[11:33] <sky100> im fine , ty how bat u
[11:33] <lordievader> I'm doing fine
[11:33] <sky100> ok
[11:33] <sky100> do u use k3b as burning tool lordievader ?
[11:34] <sky100> im really fighting with ..
[11:34] <lordievader> sky100: I rarely burn things, but I use it to rip cd's.
[11:34] <sky100> i tried burning some movies on a DVD-R , but it spoilt some good mo of discs
[11:35] <sky100> no*
[11:35] <sky100> really im ata loss..
[11:35] <sky100> at a
[11:35] <nyuszika7h> lordievader: I'm unable to install the proprietary drivers, it says to check /var/log/jockey.log
[11:35] <lordievader> sky100: What do you mean? Did you burn it as a avi file or something?
[11:35] <lordievader> nyuszika7h: What does the log file say?
[11:35] <nyuszika7h> Let me pastebin it
[11:36] <sky100> yep .avi file
[11:36] <sky100> all movies were .avi
[11:36] <lordievader> sky100: Is there also a .avi file on the disc?
[11:36] <sky100> DVD-R is compltely new
[11:36] <sky100> completely*
[11:36] <sky100> no files were written on it
[11:37] <lordievader> sky100: Yes but on a burned one.
[11:37] <sky100> just selected 4 movies , dragged them on the lower pane of k3b.. & set speed at 4x & clicked BURN
[11:37] <nyuszika7h> How can I remove that Mozilla Firefox Browser Installer? I installed Firefox Aurora's daily version from a PPA.
[11:38] <sky100> it came out as a fatal error
[11:38] <sky100> spoiling the DVD-R
[11:39] <lordievader> sky100: At what speed are you burning?
[11:39] <lordievader> nyuszika7h: I believe the package was called firefox-installer, but I might be wrong.
[11:39] <sky100> lordievader,  4x
[11:39] <nyuszika7h> It was kubuntu-firefox-installer, thanks!
[11:40] <lordievader> sky100: Is that the lowest speed?
[11:40] <sky100> cant really figure out if in the burning option i see under file system its selected  as  Linux /Unix + Windows
[11:40] <sky100> yes lowest speed
[11:40] <sky100> do I need to change the file system ?
[11:40] <nyuszika7h> lordievader: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1030240/ /var/log/jockey.log
[11:40] <lordievader> sky100: I'm not sure, like I said, I rarely burn things.
[11:41] <sky100> ok
[11:42] <lordievader> nyuszika7h: You could try to install it manually: http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Precise_Installation_Guide
[11:45] <nyuszika7h> Synaptic says fglrx-updates is installed, but Jockey said it failed
[11:45] <nyuszika7h> fglrx-amdcccle-updates etc. is also installed
[11:47] <lordievader> nyuszika7h: It has failed. Before installing the driver again, manually or through jockey I would remove all the fglrx packages.
[11:52] <nyuszika7h> lordievader: I installed fglrx and fglrx-amdcccle from Synaptic, but kexec doesn't work...
[11:52] <nyuszika7h> sudo kexec -l /boot/vmlinuz-3.2.0-23-generic --append='BOOT_IMAGE=/vmlinuz-3.2.0-23-generic root=/dev/mapper/vg00-root ro quiet splash vt.handoff=7' --initrd=/boot/initrd.img-3.2.0-23-generic
[11:53] <nyuszika7h> Oh, I need to -e it
[11:55] <nyuszika7h> kexec worked now
[11:55] <nyuszika7h> fglrx installed, Plymouth is still missin
[11:55] <nyuszika7h> g
[11:55] <nyuszika7h> (logo)
[11:55] <nyuszika7h> This annoys me a bit...
[11:55] <nyuszika7h> Seems there is no framebuffer driver loaded at all
[11:55] <nyuszika7h> lordievader: ^^
[11:55] <nyuszika7h> /proc/fb is empty
[12:08] <nyuszika7h> lordievader: sudo plymouth show-splash # <-- nothing
[12:13] <BluesKaj> Hi all
[12:14] <sky100> if any one help me out with this k3b tool's issue
[12:14] <sky100> after files being burnt successfully .. its just not being detected by the system
[12:21] <BluesKaj> how are you burning the movies..they have to be converted to dvd format to play in a dvde player
[12:22] <BluesKaj> for play on a pc just use dragon player or vlc , no need to burn them to a dvd and try to play on the cdrom
[12:23] <BluesKaj> sky100,^
[12:23] <sky100> hi BluesKaj .. sorry i was afk
[12:24] <BluesKaj> read above
[12:25] <sky100> yep read.. but , one of my friends wanted me to burn some movies for him & i wanted to use k3b for that
[12:26] <BluesKaj> sky100, so is it his pc that doesn't recognize the dvd?
[12:26] <sky100> nah .
[12:26] <sky100> its on my pc
[12:26] <sky100> after k3b showed that successfully burnt ...
[12:27] <BluesKaj> does your pc recognize other dvds on linux ?
[12:27] <sky100> & ejected the DVD-R , i simply reinserted the the same was expecting that the DISC info would be popping up
[12:28] <sky100> ok , BluesKaj  .. let me insert a DVD-R & check
[12:28] <sky100> just a min
[12:29] <BluesKaj> sky100, other dvds wirh data , not blank one , k3b obviously reognizes those
[12:29] <sky100> ok
[12:30] <sky100> yep BluesKaj  , i just tried with a DVd-R having 5 movies .. immediately  DVD-R was recognised in my pc  on linux
[12:31] <sky100> at the right side of the pc screen.. msg popped up
[12:32] <BluesKaj> was that dvd burned wih k3b?
[12:32] <sky100> nah , using cdburnerxp
[12:32] <sky100> long time back
[12:34] <BluesKaj> you're not burning the fiolder but the actual avi file inside , right , I have to ask ?
[12:35] <sky100> yes
[12:35] <sky100> .avi file only
[12:35] <sky100> dragging them to the lower panel of k3b
[12:35] <BluesKaj> do you have libdvdcss2 installed ?
[12:35] <sky100> or adding them from the directories
[12:36] <sky100> not sure abt that , BluesKaj
[12:38] <BluesKaj> sky100, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/PlayingDVDs
[12:39] <BluesKaj> read that tutorial and follow the instructions closely
[12:39] <sky100> ok ty , BluesKaj
[12:44] <sky100> yep , read BluesKaj
[12:45] <sky100> so might want to install libdvdcss
[12:46] <sky100> i would be immensely happy if after burning with k3b , linux on my pc would detect 'em
[12:46] <BluesKaj> libdvdcss2
[12:47] <BluesKaj> follow the install by terminal commands there , they work
[12:50] <sky100> im gonna paste sudo apt-get install libdvdread4 in terminal
[12:50] <sky100> is that ok ? BluesKaj
[12:50] <BluesKaj> just follow the instructions sky100
[12:51] <sky100> ok
[12:51] <BluesKaj> sudo apt-get install libdvdread4 , then , sudo /usr/share/doc/libdvdread4/install-css.sh
[12:52] <sky100> ok
[12:52] <sky100> yeah
[12:52] <sky100> gonna do it
[12:52] <BluesKaj> libdvdcss2 will install , then reboot
[12:54] <sky100> Setting up libdvdcss2 (1.2.12-0.0medibuntu1) ..Processing triggers for libc-bin . << thats the msg
[12:54] <sky100> ok
[12:55] <sky100> gonna reboot now
[12:55] <sky100> ldconfig deferred processing now taking place < < last line in the terminal after executing the commands
[12:55] <sky100> now im gonna reboot
[12:56] <BluesKaj> no!
[12:56] <sky100> oh ok
[12:56] <BluesKaj> hit enter
[12:56] <BluesKaj> in the terminal
[12:57] <sky100> sky@sky-desktop:~$  << this comes up ig\f i hit ENTER
[12:57] <BluesKaj> never quit a terminal until it's back to the prompt ...it's still installing the app
[12:57] <sky100> if I *
[12:57] <BluesKaj> then wait
[12:57] <sky100> ok
[12:57] <sky100> im waiting but no further msg in terminal
[12:58] <BluesKaj> so you're back at the prompt ...then reboot ..the prompt is  sky@sky-desktop:~$
[12:59] <BluesKaj> ok
[12:59] <sky100> yes im back at the prompt
[12:59] <BluesKaj> reboot
[13:00] <sky100> ok
[13:00] <sky100> brb
[13:00] <paolo> ciao
[13:01] <paolo> !list
[13:04] <sky100> rebooted
[13:05] <BluesKaj> sky100, also make sure you have ffmpeg installed
[13:06] <sky100> ok
[13:06] <sky100> sudo apt-get ffmpeg ?
[13:07] <BluesKaj> sudo apt-get install ffmpeg
[13:07] <sky100> oh yeah
[13:07] <sky100> ok
[13:09] <sky100> installed ffmpeg
[13:09] <BluesKaj> sky100, do the avi files play directly in a player like dragon player or vlc ?
[13:09] <sky100> back at the prompt
[13:09] <sky100> yes
[13:09] <sky100> they play comfortably
[13:09] <sky100> so reboot agian ? BluesKaj
[13:09] <sky100> again*
[13:10] <sky100> gonna reboot , back at prompt
[13:10] <BluesKaj> recommend you buy some cdrws and dvdrws for testing
[13:10] <sky100> yea
[13:10] <BluesKaj> no need to rebooot
[13:10] <sky100> i had some 4-5 DVD-Rs , some were wasted ....
[13:11] <BluesKaj> try playing those dvds again
[13:11] <sky100> ok
[13:11] <sky100> ok
[13:13] <sky100> no BluesKaj  , its not being recognised
[13:13] <sky100> not showing up
[13:13] <sky100> :(
[13:14] <BluesKaj> does it show up in dolphin places ? \
[13:14] <sky100> no
[13:15] <sky100> thats the issue BluesKaj
[13:15] <BluesKaj> unlock panels in dolphin places
[13:16] <sky100> let me c
[13:16] <BluesKaj> no notification popup from the plasma panel ?
[13:16] <sky100> no
[13:17] <sky100> unlock panels ?
[13:17] <sky100> sorry didnt get that
[13:18] <u19809> hi all, i have an ux31 and run the 3.4.1 kernel (to be sure all patches have been applied) but am unable to connect to any bluetooth device.  I see an hci and it seems to be operational but detecting other devices, no that does not happen.  Sure could use some help !
[13:19] <BluesKaj> right click in the places area in dolphin , unlock panels , sky100
[13:21] <keresztes> Helló! Van itt valaki?!
[13:33] <sky100> still no work BluesKaj
[14:17] <eagles051387> hey all
[14:18] <eagles051387> hey ikonia
[14:18] <lordievader> Hey eagles051387 how are you?
[14:18] <sky100> hello eagles051387
[14:20] <eagles051387> hey lordievader I'm busy
[14:21] <lordievader> eagles051387: Busy with what, if I may ask?
[14:22] <eagles051387> lordievader: client project
[14:23] <lordievader> eagles051387: I see, good luck with that!
[14:24] <eagles051387> thanks
[14:25] <BluesKaj> just tried bashburn ... very cool cli burn app
[14:28] <Ormie> Hello! I need help, this instant.
[14:29] <BluesKaj> Ormie, the instant passed , sorry
[14:29] <Ormie> BluesKaj, Kubuntu is not stable.
[14:29] <BluesKaj> !ask | Ormie
[14:29] <Ormie> Ubottu is here? That is my worst nightmare
[14:30] <BluesKaj> ubottu, is bot . it's meant to help
[14:30] <genii-around> Just don't flood and you'll be fine
[14:30] <lordievader> Ormie: What is your problem?
[14:30] <Ormie> I can't download flash player
[14:31] <Ormie> I get some kind of python error
[14:31] <Ormie> error: [Errno 104] Connection reset by peer
[14:31] <BluesKaj> Ormie, install kubuntu-restricted-extras
[14:31] <Ormie> I can't pastebin the problem, I still have to install firefox.
[14:32] <lordievader> Ormie: Run from a terminal: sudo apt-get install firefox flashplugin-installer
[14:34] <Ormie> thanks.
[14:35] <lordievader> Ormie: Firefox and flash is installed?
[14:35] <Ormie> lordievader, Flash some how already installed. But when I start my computer after updating it says that flash is not installed and it's installing.
[14:39] <Ormie> lordievader, I've done installing firefox. I've just take out the built-in browser.
[14:39] <Ormie> Is firefox now the default browser?
[14:40] <BluesKaj> like I said earlier , best bet is to install kubuntu-restricted-extras , that'll also take care of any dependencies and plugins required , Ormie
[14:40] <Ormie> BluesKaj, How do I install that?
[14:41] <BluesKaj> sudo apt-get install kubuntu-restricted-extras in the terminal , Ormie
[14:41] <lordievader> Oh sorry BluesKaj, hadn't seen your message, it is indeed a good idea.
[14:42] <Ormie> ok
[14:42] <lordievader> Ormie: To set firefox as your default browser go to System Settings -> Default Applications -> Web Browser
[14:42] <Ormie> ok
[14:45] <Ormie> the buttons in xchat seems to be smaller in kde.
[14:45] <Ormie> ContentTooShortError: retrieval incomplete: got only 9728000 out of 14131146 bytes
[14:45] <Ormie> what to do?
[14:46] <lordievader> Ormie: Where did that error come from?
[14:47] <Ormie> lordievadar, It automatically downloads flash again while doing BluesKaj technique.
[14:48] <lordievader> Ormie: Try an "sudo apt-get update" and then try BluesKaj technique again.
[14:50] <BluesKaj> then sudo apt-get-upghrade , Ormie , also run sudo dpkg --configure -a , you might have some uninstalled dependencies that need finishing
[14:50] <Ormie> lordievader, http://pastebin.com/aePA0rha
[14:50] <BluesKaj> oops , sudo spt-get upgrade
[14:50] <Ormie> BluesKaj, http://pastebin.com/aePA0rha
[14:51]  * BluesKaj has the phat phinger syndrome today
[14:52] <Ormie> BluesKaj, update or upgrade?
[14:52] <BluesKaj> Ormie, both
[14:52] <BluesKaj> update first
[14:54] <BluesKaj> updating without upgrading won't install anyupgrades to your system , it only resets your sources to the latest upgradeable packages installed on your system , you still must upgrade to get them
[14:55] <Phiscribe> update gets you the list of whats new, upgrade installs based on that list
[14:56] <Ormie> is there any option on apt-get to reinstall?
[14:57] <BluesKaj> Ormie, did you run sudo apt-get install kubuntu-restricted-extras ?
[14:57] <Ormie> yes.
[14:57] <BluesKaj> ok
[14:57] <Ormie> now, i want to re-install it
[14:58] <BluesKaj> now run , sudo dpkg --configure -a
[14:58] <Ormie> done
[14:59] <BluesKaj> ok, now run sudo apt-get install kubuntu-restricted-extras , again
[14:59] <abe> I'm interested in trying kde 4.9.  Is there a ppa that I can put in my sources.list?
[14:59] <Ormie> BluesKaj, it already exist.
[14:59] <Ormie> I want to re-install it
[14:59] <Ormie> how?
[15:00] <BluesKaj> ok , sudo apt-get install --reinstall kubuntu-restricted-extras
[15:00] <Ormie> ok
[15:01] <Ormie> BluesKaj, Done, It took really short time.
[15:02] <BluesKaj> try Firefox on a flash heavy site like youtube
[15:02] <Ormie> ok
[15:03] <Ormie> BluesKaj, Firefox told me to install plugin, firefox didn't find it.
[15:04] <BluesKaj> did you close Firefox then reopen it
[15:04] <phoenix_firebrd> no sound after uninstalling  veromix
[15:04] <BluesKaj> Ormie, close FF then relaunch it
[15:05] <Ormie> BluesKaj, Same result.
[15:05] <BluesKaj> ok reboot
[15:05] <Phiscribe> no sound from browser or no sound system wide?
[15:05] <Ormie> BluesKaj, I reboot?
[15:05] <BluesKaj> Ormie, yes
[15:05] <phoenix_firebrd> Phiscribe: system wide
[15:06] <phoenix_firebrd> Phiscribe: purged and reinstalled pulseaudio, no use
[15:06] <Ormie> ok, bye
[15:06] <Phiscribe> try to make alsa work
[15:06] <phoenix_firebrd> Phiscribe: also purged and reinstalled alsa-base
[15:06] <Phiscribe> use a alsa mixer and see if volume is zero someplace
[15:06] <phoenix_firebrd> Phiscribe: tried alsa force reload
[15:06] <BluesKaj> phoenix_firebrd, pavucontrol works here but veromix doesn't ..don't ask me why
[15:07] <phoenix_firebrd> BluesKaj: i tried that too, no use
[15:07] <Phiscribe> try alsamixer from command line
[15:07] <BluesKaj> force-reload doesn't always work
[15:07] <phoenix_firebrd> Phiscribe: tried that too
[15:07] <Phiscribe> set it on fire, maybe it will arise from the ashes
[15:08] <Phiscribe> ah im being too flip, sound not working is annoying
[15:08] <phoenix_firebrd> Phiscribe: he he he
[15:08] <Ormie> Wut?!
[15:09] <Ormie> BluesKaj is gone.
[15:09] <phoenix_firebrd> Ormie: any problem?
[15:10] <lordievader> Ormie: He'll probably be back in a bit.
[15:10] <Ormie> ok
[15:10] <Ormie> ...
[15:10] <u19809> hi all, i have an ux31 and run the 3.4.1 kernel (to be sure all patches have been applied) but am unable to connect to any bluetooth device. I see an hci and it seems to be operational but detecting other devices, no that does not happen. Sure could use some help !
[15:11] <phoenix_firebrd> Phiscribe: the pulseaudio meter is working in sync wit the music, but no output in speakers
[15:12] <Ormie> lordievader, Plugin Finder in firefox also failed to install.
[15:12] <Phiscribe> do headphones work?
[15:12] <phoenix_firebrd> Phiscribe: right now i am using headphones
[15:12] <Phiscribe> look at alsamixer again, see if anthing is muted or zero
[15:13] <phoenix_firebrd> Phiscribe: shall i paste the image ?
[15:13] <Phiscribe> also most cards have a headphone cut off, they turn off speakers if headphone is plugged in, sometimes it gets stuck
[15:13] <Phiscribe> scroll left and right
[15:14] <JMichael|work> oh kubuntu netbook interface, why dost thou crash SO much??
[15:15] <Phiscribe> JMichael|work a good start for a Haiku
[15:15] <lordievader> Ormie: You ran a apt-get update & upgrade right?
[15:16] <JMichael|work> Phiscribe: is haiku what you would recommend?
[15:16] <Ormie> lordievader, yes
[15:17] <lordievader> Ormie: Have you tried installing flashplayer-installer again after that?
[15:17] <Ormie> lordievader, no, However now, I installed gnash SWF plugin now it works. thanks for help. :)
[15:18] <Phiscribe> JMichael|work to fix your problem, not realy as it is a type of japanese poetry, for your problem find where it is occuring, is it a bad network driver, hardware, other
[15:18] <lordievader> Ormie: Ok, good to hear :)
[15:18] <Phiscribe> i was just saying that network errors are a common theme
[15:19] <abe> can someone please answer my question?
[15:20] <JMichael|work> Phiscribe: i don't think i was experiencing any network issues. the netbook UI was just constantly crashing... also, it became much slower after the upgrade to KDE SC 4.8.3
[15:20] <JMichael|work> Phiscribe: i actually thought you were referring to Haiku OS
[15:21] <Phiscribe> ah sorry, well the ui must be writing a log someplace, grep around in var
[15:21] <Ormie> Honestly I have 1 more problem.
[15:22] <Ormie> I want the minimize button back.
[15:22] <abe> I'm interested in trying kde 4.9.  Is there a ppa that I can put in my sources.list?
[15:23] <lordievader> Ormie: What do you mean? Can you show a screenshot?
[15:24] <JMichael|work> Phiscribe: i am installing lubuntu, instead, as i have seen other reports of the netbook UI being crashy for some people... however, i should have spent more time looking at error logs
[15:25] <Phiscribe> plasma desktop is sexy, but quirky at times
[15:25] <Ormie> lordievader, http://imgur.com/HrCxR
[15:27] <lordievader> Ormie: Does every window have that or just xchat?
[15:28] <Ormie> lordievader, every window
[15:30] <Ormie> -_-"
[15:30] <lordievader> Ormie: That is very strange, have you installed some kind of theme?
[15:32] <Ormie> lordievader, this is the original theme.
[15:32] <Ormie> mysteries creeps me alot
[15:33] <lordievader> Ormie: Ok maybe I know the fix, go to System Settings -> Window Decoration -> Configure Buttons
[15:34] <lordievader> Ormie: Is there custom titlebar positions checked?
[15:34] <Ormie> hold on
[15:34] <lordievader> Ormie: It shouldn't be btw.
[15:35] <Ormie> lordievader, there is only window behavior.
[15:35] <Ormie> lordievader, Some how. I am on a netbook. and I switched the mode to desktop because netbook edition looks messy.
[15:35] <genii-around> I wonder if it's gtk apps or all apps without his minimize button
[15:36] <lordievader> Ormie: Oh sorry its under Workspace Appearance
[15:37] <Ormie> lordievader, strangely it's checked.
[15:38] <phoenix_firebrd> Phiscribe: problem solved
[15:38] <lordievader> Ormie: Uncheck that, and I am not sure how it should respond, maybe you need to logout and back in.
[15:38] <Ormie> ok
[15:39] <genii-around> Ormie: Does your Workspace Appearance window have a minimize button?
[15:39] <Ormie> lordievader, It's back! The minimize button is back right away! thanks again :D. I still think kubuntu needs some work.
[15:40]  * genii-around sips his coffee and thinks about qtcurve
[15:40] <tejfol> hello, how can I change the default mouse cursor in 12.04?
[15:40] <lordievader> Ormie: Software development is never finished :P, but great that it is back.
[15:41] <Ormie> bye everyone.
[15:41] <phoenix_firebrd> Phiscribe: sound output channel was set to digital, switched to analog, solved
[15:50] <BluesKaj> genii-around, I installed qtcurve ...seems ok
[15:51] <genii-around> BluesKaj: It helps to unify themes from gtk apps
[15:51] <BluesKaj> yeah , I saw that in the install stream
[15:53] <suttiwit> I still have problem with installing flash :(
[15:58] <genii-around> Ormie: Can you pastebin the errors you are getting?
[15:59] <Ormie> genii-around, I already closed it, though :(
[15:59] <Ormie> genii-around, I will logout and it will come back
[16:00] <genii-around> Ormie: Output from sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install flashplugin-installer
[16:00] <genii-around> Bah
[16:00]  * genii-around makes more coffee
[16:01] <Ormie> genii-around, hold on.
[16:02]  * genii-around holds on for dear life!
[16:02] <Ormie> genii-around, http://pastebin.com/TpYsQRaM
[16:05] <BluesKaj> i usually download the flashplugin from adobe extract it and add the libflashplayer.so file to /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins
[16:05] <genii-around> Ormie: To try: sudo rm /var/cache/apt/archives/*    && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install  flashplugin-installer
[16:05] <Ormie> BluesKaj, Where to download?
[16:05] <genii-around> Ormie: If errors, pastebin again
[16:06] <Ormie> genii-around, rm: cannot remove `/var/cache/apt/archives/partial': Is a directory
[16:07] <genii-around> Ormie: Thats fine
[16:07] <Ormie> ?
[16:07] <Ormie> It doesn't continue
[16:07] <genii-around> Ormie: Just put the second part then.eg:  sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install  flashplugin-installer
[16:09] <Ormie> genii-around, Right now, I can play flash thanks to gnash swf plugin. But the dialog keeps warning me to install flash. I want this to end.
[16:09] <Ormie> flashplugin-installer is already the newest version.
[16:11] <Ormie> ...
[16:12] <Ormie> genii-around, u there?
[16:16] <genii-around> Ormie: Yes, just had to talk to my boss a moment, at work here.
[16:16] <Ormie> ...
[16:17] <genii-around> Ormie:  sudo apt-get install --reinstall  flashplugin-installer
[16:19] <Ormie> genii-around, it worked nicely! thanks :D
[16:20] <NoiseCounsellor> Hi everyone. I recently had my hard drives disconnected, that is, power cut of, while running. The partitions fsck'ed fine, I had to re-install grub and boot to the login screen, but I cannot log in to plasma any more. It showed two errors, one I fixed by "apt-get install --reinstall dbus", the other reads "call to lnusertemp failed (tmp directories full?) Check your installation." How might I be able to fix this?
[16:22] <sky100> new project burnt on a DVD-R but notifier doesn't pops up
[16:23] <sky100> pls help
[16:23] <sky100> i used k3b
[16:24] <sky100> but other DVD-R are being shown as mounted after inserting the disk
[16:25] <genii-around> Did you close the burn session?
[16:26] <sky100> yep
[16:27] <sky100> everything was fine
[16:27] <sky100> genii-around,
[16:27] <sky100> tried with several DVD-Rs
[16:28] <sky100> discs are read in other OS
[16:28] <sky100> like in XP
[16:29] <sky100> dunno waht went wrong with notifier
[16:31] <genii-around> sky100: What kind of project did you choose? ( Data, Continue Multisession,Audio, Mixed-Mode,Video CD, Video DVD, eMovix, etc )
[16:35] <genii-around> Hm
[16:36] <sky100> k3b burns dont popup in notifier after burning in kubuntu
[16:36] <sky100> k3b burns dont popup in notifier after burning  in kubuntu
[16:36] <sky100> k3b burns dont popup in notifier after burning
[16:37] <sky100> oops
[16:37] <sky100> sorry
[16:38] <genii-around> sky100: What kind of project did you choose? ( Data, Continue Multisession,Audio, Mixed-Mode,Video CD, Video DVD, eMovix, etc )
[16:39] <NoiseCounsellor> Òk, simpler question: What is "lnusertemp"?
[16:40] <sky100> i was burning movies , all of .avi format , slected data , genii-around
[16:40] <sky100> selected*
[16:43] <genii-around> sky100: If you are in K3B, and put that DVD-R in, what does Device..Media Info from the K3B menu say?
[16:44] <BluesKaj> sky100, you should be choosing "more actions">New Video DVD Project , not selected data
[16:45] <sky100> blank DVD-R it says in menu
[16:48] <genii-around> sky100: Perhaps you made some project, saved the project, but did not actually burn the contents of the project to the dvd
[16:49] <sky100> is it ? but it showed as burning , closing disc after burning & finally popped out the disc
[16:50] <sky100> hope k3b burnt discs are screwing something in notifier
[16:51] <genii-around> NoiseCounsellor: From what I can determine, it is a kde utility which makes directories and files for temporary use in ~.kde/  , /var/tmp , and /tmp
[16:52] <BluesKaj> sky , you said you were burning the avi files as selected data , is this correct ?
[16:52] <sky100> right
[16:52] <sky100> they are just pc data
[16:52] <sky100> not any converted videos
[16:53] <sky100> downloaded movies
[16:54] <BluesKaj> youstill have to burn them as a "New Video DVD Project"
[16:54] <NoiseCounsellor> genii-around: That's what I thought, too. But I don't quite get why it should prevent X and plasma from starting. I added a new entry for tmpfs in /etc/fstab now for lack of clever ideas. Will reboot and see how it goes.
[16:56] <sky100> its all the same i think BluesKaj
[16:56] <mozzy> skydude
[16:56] <sky100> HEY MOZZY
[16:56] <sky100> oops
[16:56] <sky100> sorry caps
[16:56] <FloodBotK1> sky100: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:56] <mozzy> np
[16:57] <sky100> BluesKaj, : i treied with both options
[16:57] <sky100> tried*
[16:57] <sky100> New project & new Video project
[16:57] <sky100> end result is all the same
[16:58] <sky100> this was a weird behaviour by notifier
[16:59] <sky100> after burning sucessfully in k3b , notifier just did not pop it
[16:59] <mozzy> whats strange is the discs burn fine
[16:59] <giuseppe_> Hi!
[16:59] <giuseppe_> I've recently installed kubuntu...
[17:00] <mozzy> and notifier is able to detect and give mounting options on discs your burnt in other OS's and kubuntu 11.10
[17:00] <sky100> yep
[17:00] <giuseppe_> I have been using kde since 4.0
[17:00] <sky100> even in 12.04 other discs are being popped by notifier
[17:01] <mozzy> ya, so its not the notifier or device settings
[17:01] <sky100> which are not just burnt using k3b
[17:01] <giuseppe_> I thought that the version 4.8 was good enough to be used how first computer
[17:01] <mozzy> it works
[17:01] <giuseppe_> but actually I got a lot of problem
[17:02] <giuseppe_> for istance, kwin continues chashing very often
[17:03] <giuseppe_> My computer stucks and I can figure out why
[17:04] <sky100> dunno man what went wrong in notifier or somewher else
[17:04] <sky100> everything went off peacefully ..
[17:04] <mozzy> think it may be the way the discs are closing..
[17:04] <mozzy> really odd
[17:04] <sky100> landing me in big zero
[17:04] <sky100> yep mozz
[17:05] <mozzy> try different brand media?
[17:05] <mozzy> tru 6x or 8x instead too
[17:05] <mozzy> try*
[17:05] <sky100> 1st tried with SONY (4 discs) & then writex
[17:05] <mozzy> instead of 4x
[17:06] <mozzy> ok
[17:06] <sky100> u mean higher speed ?
[17:06] <mozzy> im out of ideas
[17:06] <sky100> ok
[17:06] <mozzy> yes
[17:06] <sky100> me as well
[17:06] <sky100> ok
[17:07] <sky100> weird gesture
[17:07] <sky100> never ever thought that same programme might act in a diff way altogether
[17:08] <mozzy> its Basero too isnt it
[17:08] <sky100> having same settings
[17:08] <mozzy> Brasero*
[17:08] <sky100> yep
[17:08] <sky100> wated some discs on it as well
[17:08] <sky100> wasted*
[17:08] <mozzy> do you have any kubuntu updates pending?
[17:08] <sky100> nah
[17:08] <mozzy> ok
[17:09] <sky100> had .. but updated in afternoon b4 disc was burnt
[17:09] <mozzy> how many updates
[17:09] <genii-around> Had you rebooted before using k3b?
[17:09] <mozzy> yes
[17:09] <mozzy> was just getting to that
[17:10] <sky100> ummm , NO
[17:10] <mozzy> have you rebooted after updates sky
[17:10] <genii-around> Hm
[17:10] <sky100> oh , yea
[17:10] <mozzy> ok
[17:10] <sky100> i rebotted several times
[17:10] <sky100> rebooted
[17:11] <sky100> as i installed libdvdcss2
[17:11] <sky100> & ffmpeg
[17:11] <sky100> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/PlayingDVDs
[17:11] <sky100> ^^^^
[17:11] <sky100> for libdvdcss2
[17:19] <mozzy> heh sky
[17:20] <mozzy> youre not playing encrypted dvds...your not even trying to play video dvds
[17:20] <mozzy> just pc data video files sitting on the disc in a directory like it would be on any other media..pc data
[17:21] <mozzy> libdvdcss fix doesnty even pertain to your issue
[17:21] <mozzy> doesnt*
[17:24] <mozzy> ffmpeg is for conversion
[17:24] <mozzy> theres no conversion taking place
[17:24] <sky100> ok
[17:24] <sky100> oh ic
[17:24] <mozzy> ya
[17:24] <mozzy> just a straight burn avi, mkv to disc
[17:25] <mozzy> as backups
[17:25] <mozzy> ;)
[17:27] <mozzy> bbiab
[17:27] <sky100> ok
[17:33] <BarkingFish> Evening guys. Can somoene please explain pinning something in Kubuntu, so that it doesn't download when I update my system please?
[17:33] <BarkingFish> *someone
[17:34] <bazhang> !pinning | BarkingFish
[17:34] <BarkingFish> I asked in #ubuntu last night - I don't want pulseaudio on my system, but everytime I run major updates, it comes back.  All I want to do is block it from downloading, permanently, so it never - ever - comes back.
[17:35] <BarkingFish> bazhang: I should mention I'm not running a GUI at the moment, I'm text only, and that page doesn't format properly in lynx.
[17:35] <genii-around> try links2 -g
[17:36] <BarkingFish> ok, i'll give it a shot.
[17:37] <BarkingFish> genii-around: that works, but it doesn't look like it does what I want it to, unfortunately
[17:38] <BarkingFish> I want to keep pulseaudio off my system, pinning looks like it just keeps an old version on the machine so it doesn't update - my intention is to stop it downloading altogether
[17:39] <BarkingFish> someone suggested to me that maybe something I use recommends pulseaudio, in which case, whatever it is, I'm willing to remove that too.
[17:41] <genii-around> BarkingFish: Besides making a particular version stick and not upgrade, pinning can be used to prevent programs from being installed at all
[17:41] <BarkingFish> 0.0  Right. Back to the page, I gotta see how to do that :)
[17:42] <BarkingFish> is that using the dpkg --set-selections?
[17:45] <yoshi_> huhu
[17:45] <BarkingFish> kuku yoshi_ :)
[17:47] <lordievader> Good evening
[17:47] <genii-around> BarkingFish: No. Just use -10 for the pin priority number
[17:49] <BarkingFish> excellent :)
[17:49] <BarkingFish> Thank you
[17:50] <genii-around> BarkingFish: You're welcome
[17:56] <apachelogger> Sentynel: please run kdebugdialog, tick everything, then run rekonq from a terminal and try apt://amarok
[17:56] <apachelogger> paste me what the debug output has to say about it
[17:57] <Sentynel> apachelogger: http://pastebin.com/18kbiwgm
[17:57] <apachelogger> ohooooo
[17:57] <apachelogger> !info rekonq precise
[17:58] <apachelogger> !info rekonq quantal
[17:58] <apachelogger> found it :P
[17:58] <Sentynel> aha.
[17:58] <apachelogger> Sentynel: seems rekonq does not do proper protocol check and then tries to open a KIO slave
[17:58] <apachelogger> which of course fails
[17:58] <apachelogger> will try to find the change and question and SRU it later
[17:58]  * apachelogger first needs to fix his keyboard
[17:58] <Sentynel> righto
[18:01] <BarkingFish> genii-around: ok, i just set that up in /etc/apt/preferences - Package: Pulseaudio  Pin: release n=precise Pin-Priority -10
[18:01] <BarkingFish> and I also did that with the Pulseaudio-module-x11, which I don't want either.  Now, will that break anything which needs pulseaudio, and is it likely to moan if that happens?
[18:01] <genii-around> BarkingFish: Might want to make the P in Pulseaudio lowercase
[18:02] <BarkingFish> yeah, I did, that was just me typoing in here
[18:02] <genii-around> BarkingFish: You can also use a wildcard at the end like pulseaudio*
[18:04] <BarkingFish> ah, well I've pinned both individually, separate entries in the preferences, so I'll see how this goes.  I have some packages due to update tonight, so I'll see whether PA comes back.  I have nothing against it, it just busts my sound card so I can't use it properly.
[18:04] <BarkingFish> if it works for others, it's not for me to dissuade people from using it, i just personally don't get along with it
[18:04] <genii-around> Understandable
[18:06] <BarkingFish> i used to have such a better time back when kde used arts & artsd :)  It never went wrong, ever.  If I could resurrect that tomorrow, i'd do it :)
[18:17] <BluesKaj> genii-around, i was about to suggest pavucontrol added to pulseaudio works well with pci soundcards , PA by itself is ok , but for 5.1 etc playback , analog or digtal pavucontrol gives more options
[18:18] <genii-around> BluesKaj: Luckily I haven't had to do anything tricky with my soundcard in ages
[18:18] <genii-around> The last thing was some messup in 8.04 with IntelHDA cards
[18:20] <BluesKaj> i used to run the onboard card but the digital stream was low rate and full dropouts , so I added this m-audio and it has some fairly high rate options
[18:21] <Jarris> i need your help, trying to get kde running .... this morning i did-release-upgrade from kubuntu-oneiric to precise and it breake up with dependenci errors , i was thinking i fixed those i get it through the upgrade, but now after userlogin i see a blue screen
[18:21] <BluesKaj> less distortion as a result
[18:27] <Jarris> see kdm.log http://paste.ubuntu.com/1030835/
[18:27] <Jarris> ther is an error with dbus, but dbus is running
[18:31] <Jarris> dpkg showed "rc plasma-widget-kimpanel-backend-ibus " but i was not able to reinstall it
[18:36] <BluesKaj> mozzy, I was trying to make sure sky100 had all the proper apps and codecs in case the avi files were DRM'd ..i've seen avi's deliberately DRM'd and regionally encoded to prevent copying
[18:38] <mozzy> oh ok, ya that makes sense
[18:39] <BluesKaj> mozzy, he definitely has an odd issue tho ...hope he didn't turn his notifier off :)
[18:39] <mozzy> strange thing, his notifier works
[18:40] <BluesKaj> for nother stuff ?
[18:40] <BluesKaj> other
[18:40] <mozzy> discs he burnt in older kubuntu version 11.10 show up to mount
[18:40] <mozzy> and other OS's
[18:40] <mozzy> as they should
[18:41] <mozzy> even his k3b burns, burn properly enough to be read in other OSS's and devices
[18:41]  * BluesKaj wonders whether his k3b has an issue
[18:42] <mozzy> blank disc pop up in his notifier but his k3b burns...linux acts like it doesnt exist
[18:42] <mozzy> only in kubuntu 12.04
[18:42] <mozzy> i went through all his k3b settings, kde system settings, device notification settings via teamviewer and they were all good
[18:42] <mozzy> matched my own
[18:43] <mozzy> i did a test burn this morning on my machine with kubuntu 12.04 and on his via teamviewer
[18:43] <BluesKaj> well, then it's a mystery to me
[18:43] <mozzy> everything matching
[18:43] <mozzy> ya
[18:43] <mozzy> im out of ideas here
[18:49] <BluesKaj> mozzy, maybe he could try setting his system settings removable devices to "enable automatic mounting of removable media"
[18:49] <mozzy> i almnost checked that
[18:49] <mozzy> it isnt checked on mine
[18:50] <BluesKaj> it shows a cd mounted here
[18:50] <mozzy> so i fgiured it would have no effect if it doesnt see the media atr all
[18:50] <mozzy> on his
[18:50] <mozzy> kubuntu thinks nothing has been inserted
[18:51] <mozzy> only happens with k3b burns under kubuntu 12.04
[18:51] <BluesKaj> might be worth a trry tho
[18:51] <mozzy> all his other discs he burnt show up in the notifier
[18:51] <mozzy> like they do on mine
[18:52] <mozzy> extremly odd
[18:52] <BluesKaj> yup
[18:52] <mozzy> doubting an automount would fix the issue
[18:52] <mozzy> brb
[19:20] <NoiseCounsellor> In case anyone wondered, errors related to "lnusertmp" can be remedied by checking permissions on /tmp and /var/tmp, though I don't quite understand how a crashed harddrive would alter those two and leave other directories alone
[19:20] <eddy> hola
[19:20] <eddy> alguien que hable español
[19:20] <eddy> tengo un problema y no se que hacer con mi sistema operativo
[19:20] <NoiseCounsellor> !es | eddy
[19:23] <genii-around> NoiseCounsellor: Possibly because there were ope files there at the time
[19:23] <genii-around> *open
[19:29] <NoiseCounsellor> genii-around: Yes, but I figured it would have had an even better chance of corrupting anything in /
[19:55] <natman> can i stuff from ubuntu app store on Kubuntu?
[20:43] <douglarret_> how big should my swap partition be?
[20:44] <genii-around> Generally 1-2x ram size
[20:51] <douglarret_> thanks
[21:03] <levi501d> ok this is weird, after running my last apt-get update && upgade my computer is now reporting this is ubuntu 12.04 not kubuntu
[21:05] <natman_> there is a paid for app in the ubuntu app store, how do i get it on kubuntu?
[21:07] <douglarret> where is the ubuntu app store?
[21:07] <mozzy> you mean ubuntu software center?
[21:08] <douglarret> sure?
[21:08] <natman_> ya, how do i get it?
[21:08] <mozzy> which version of ubuntu?
[21:08] <douglarret> mark it for install and apply changes?
[21:09] <mozzy> 11.10? 12.04?
[21:09] <natman_> 12.04, i cant find it in my muon package manager
[21:09] <mozzy> earlier?
[21:09] <mozzy> ok
[21:09] <mozzy> sudo apt-get install software-center
[21:10] <mozzy> and it installs
[21:10] <natman_> mozzy:  i have the kde software centre
[21:10] <mozzy> never heard of it
[21:10] <natman_> I have "muon software center"
[21:11] <genii-around> muon has been the default for a while now
[21:11] <mozzy> if you want the classic ubuntu software center with apps, install that package
[21:11] <mozzy> works in kubuntu and ubuntu
[21:11] <mozzy> both have the same base
[21:11] <mozzy> I use Apper with KDE
[21:11] <natman_> mozzy:  ok, i just wanted to be able to get one package, dont really want another software manager
[21:12] <mozzy> ok, then you wont need it
[21:12] <mozzy> thought someone was asking for it
[21:12] <mozzy> doug was
[21:12] <douglarret> yes - appreciate the info :)
[21:13] <mozzy> i like apper and terminal myself for installing packages
[21:13] <mozzy> synaptic is ok
[21:13] <mozzy> youre welcome
[21:13]  * douglarret = sorry - distracted insalling 12.04 on other PC
[21:15] <mozzy> no problem
[21:16] <douglarret> can I change my config after install to auto updates for security?
[21:17] <mozzy> think its best not to let auto updates happen
[21:18] <mozzy> so you have time to prepare if they are many
[21:18] <douglarret> mozzy, ok then - that is what I chose? thanks
[21:18] <mozzy> get updates tho, but on your own time
[21:19] <douglarret> right
[21:19] <mozzy> once a week or once a month tops
[21:20] <Ze_Blob> Hello folks, i am planing an upgrade from 10.11 to 04.12, reading currently the faq and this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PreciseUpgrades/Kubuntu. This seems a pretty straightforward process. I would like to know however if having the repository for nvidia drivers and bumblebee can cause a problem during the upgrade ? and are there some extra things not in the webpage that i should take...
[21:20] <Ze_Blob> ...care of ?
[21:24] <mozzy> douglarret, as far as security, linux is pretty good with that
[21:24] <mozzy> no worries
[21:26] <mozzy> most updates are just fixes
[21:26] <mozzy> and improvements
[21:38] <BarkingFish> evening guys, anyone know what this is and what the package is please? I can't seem to find it, but my system starts it during boot:
[21:38] <BarkingFish> * Starting Uncomplicated firewall   [OK]
[21:40] <BarkingFish> I've passed it through locate and can't find it, but I'd like to at least know which package it is if nothing else
[21:44] <mozzy> wondered what that was myself BarkingFish
[21:45] <mozzy> "Uncomplicated" makes me think a very basic built in firewall
[21:45] <BarkingFish> Yeah - I don't run any firewalls on here, I've certainly not installed any and I'll be danged if I'm keeping it on.
[21:45] <mozzy> one that doesnt need confgiuring
[21:45] <mozzy> just my .02
[21:46] <mozzy> i very light one that we'd never notice kinda thing
[21:46] <mozzy> a*
[21:46] <mozzy> dunno
[21:47] <mozzy> its purpose could be to block the most documents type attacks
[21:47] <mozzy> documented*
[21:47] <BarkingFish> No disrespect to kubuntu, but I don't really want packages installing that I've not asked for.
[21:48] <mozzy> "Ufw stands for Uncomplicated Firewall, and is program for managing a netfilter firewall. It provides a command line interface and aims to be uncomplicated and easy to use."
[21:48] <mozzy> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UncomplicatedFirewall
[21:49] <mozzy> ufw package perhaps
[21:49] <BarkingFish> aha
[21:49] <BarkingFish> thank you
[21:49] <mozzy> youre welcome
[21:49] <BarkingFish> now I can apt-get remove it :)
[21:49] <BarkingFish> done
[21:49] <mozzy> deal :)
[21:50] <mozzy> bbiab
[21:50] <BarkingFish> ok
[21:50] <BarkingFish> thanks mozzy
[21:53] <JMichaelX> is anyone here aware of any kind of bug in 12.04, or in KDE 4.8.3, in which excessive disk activity is taking place?
[21:55] <JMichaelX> on this machine, the fan is just running constantly
[21:55] <genii-around> Not offhand. But then again I always have akonadi and desktop search file indexing turned off
[21:55] <JMichaelX> i have desktop search file indexing shut off as well, but possibly not akonadi
[21:56] <genii-around> There used to be some issue with nvidia gpu fans in laptops always running fullout
[21:56] <JMichaelX> genii-around: do you have to abstain from the digital clock in order to do that?
[21:57] <genii-around> JMichaelX: No idea. I have no widgets on my desktop, i just use the standard clock on my bar
[21:57] <JMichaelX> genii-around: in 11.10, this problem would show up in one KDE SC release, then disappear in the next... back and forth
[21:57] <JMichaelX> genii-around: ok, i thought that clock depended on akonadi
[22:00] <JMichaelX> genii-around: i think it rather depends on nepomuk, instead
[22:07] <genii-around> JMichaelX: Do you have some nvidia card for video?
[22:07] <JMichaelX> genii-around: yes. an onboard nvidia ion2
[22:08] <genii-around> JMichaelX: Perhaps http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=175533
[22:09] <genii-around> ( if it's the gpu fan and not cpu fan constantly on )
[22:12] <JMichaelX> genii-around: this machine has only one fan... probably doing the job of both
[22:14] <genii-around> JMichaelX: I'm using the xorg-edgers drivers, not having the fan issue. But then it might be my particular card is not affected ( 9300M GS )
[22:15] <JMichaelX> genii-around: i'm also using xorg-edgers... i believe
[22:16] <JMichaelX> i take that back. i am using xorg-edgers at work, but not here
[22:16] <JMichaelX> maybe i'll give that a shot
[22:17] <JMichaelX> this is a GT218
[22:18] <JMichaelX> genii-around: thx for your input. i'll try to do some experimenting.
[22:19] <genii-around> JMichaelX: No problem. Perhaps keep us posted if you discover the issue, or solve it
[22:19] <JMichaelX> genii-around: will do
[22:21] <gladii> Hi
[22:22] <gladii> Hi, I am trying to install DVB-USB TV Tuner card
[22:22] <gladii> I an unable to fix it.
[22:22] <gladii> Could someone help me with that please?
[22:22] <gladii> I am using Sino Card
[22:23] <gladii> Additional Drivers - firmware for DVB Cards
[22:23] <gladii> dmesg 'E3C EC168 DVB-T USB2.0 reference design' in cold state, will try to load a firmware
[22:23] <gladii> Could someone help me with this please?
[22:26] <genii-around> gladii: Can you pastebin result of: lsusb please
[22:26] <genii-around> !pastebin
[22:26] <gladii> Yes...
[22:27] <gladii> one moment please... genni-around
[22:27] <gladii> http://pastebin.com/74fSAw1R
[22:29] <gladii> @genni-around, are you around?
[22:29] <gladii> :)
[22:30] <genii-around> gladii: Yes. Researching
[22:30] <gladii> Thank you
[22:30] <gladii> genni-around, It's an additional driver
[22:30] <douglarret> grub failed to install during my install - what should I do?
[22:32] <gladii> genii-around, http://imagebin.org/215712 Screenshot
[22:36] <FloodBotK1> !netsplit
[22:36] <douglarret> I just finished installing 12.04 and installed lilo instead of grub (grub failed) and now my machine does not boot? I have another install on same machine on other media - how can I install grub for both installs of 12.04?
[22:39] <genii-around> gladii:I would suggest to download the firmware, put it in directory of /lib/firmware/
[22:40] <gladii> Thank you genni, How could I download and put the firmware.... Sorry I am new Ubuntu.
[22:41] <gladii> genni-around: Thank you for trying to help.
[22:42] <genii-around> gladii: http://tanguy.wdscript.fr/index.php?q=system/files/FirmwareEC168.zip  has the firmware. After downloading, unzip the file. Put the file which ends in .fw or .bin into /lib/firmware/
[22:44] <gladii> genii-around : I have these three files in that folder dvb-usb-ec168.fw  EC168BDA.bin  EC168BDA.ihex
[22:44] <gladii> Should I put everything or on /lib/firmware
[22:45] <genii-around> gladii: I think only the first two files. To copy them into /lib/firmware/ you need admin rights
[22:45] <genii-around> gladii: What directory are the files in right now?
[22:47] <gladii> genii-around : I guess I coppied
[22:47] <gladii> http://pastebin.com/VVjRgyFa
[22:47] <gladii> what could I do now?
[22:48] <douglarret> I just finished installing 12.04 and installed lilo instead of grub (grub failed) and now my machine does not boot? I have another install on same machine on other media - how can I install grub for both installs of 12.04?
[22:48] <genii-around> gladii: I should give a lecture about using sudo su instead of sudo -i  :-) .. But not right now.
[22:49] <genii-around> gladii: gladiiUnplg it, wait for dmesg to settle down, replug it
[22:49] <gladii> genii-around : I would love to here that lecture from you.
[22:49] <genii-around> gladii: Then pastebin result of: dmesg| tail
[22:50] <BarkingFish> douglarret: when you say "grub failed" first of all, what exactly did grub do?
[22:50] <BarkingFish> It might help us to try and figure out how you can make it work if you now intend to install it :)
[22:50] <cleaninstall> grub is good for catching fish, hmmmm
[22:52] <gladii> genni-around : http://pastebin.com/u2kdmPD9
[22:55] <douglarret> BarkingFish, grub failed to install on sda during kubuntu 12.04 install so I selected lilo but booting that drive makes the machine hang with flashing lights on keyboard.
[22:56] <BarkingFish> that sounds like a kernel panic
[22:57] <BarkingFish> I get my caps & scroll lock lights flash on/off when my system panics, usually when it fails to sync init
[22:57] <douglarret> BarkingFish, thot so? so I booted other install of 12.04 to fix the sdb install of 12.04
[22:58] <gladii> genni-around : are you around?
[22:58] <gladii> :-/
[22:58] <BarkingFish> genii-around: I don't suppose you'd be able to help douglarret replace lilo with an alternative bootloader when he can't even hit busybox or SUM to do any work on it, would you? :)
[22:59] <genii-around> gladii: I missed your message, you were putting genni instead of geni  :) Reading paste now
[22:59] <genii-around> *genii  rather
[22:59] <BarkingFish> just a thought, douglarret - is the disk you're installing from a live kubuntu disk, or just a straight install?
[22:59] <genii-around> BarkingFish: Give me a few minutes here
[22:59] <BarkingFish> ok genii-around - sorry, I'll wait :) Didn't notice you were tied up
[22:59] <gladii> genii-around: Sorry, http://pastebin.com/u2kdmPD9
[23:00] <gladii> genii-around : Thank you
[23:01] <douglarret> BarkingFish, is live 12.04 lts but did text install as live cd would not start kde - screen locked up with weird artifacts on it.
[23:01] <genii-around> gladii: Looks like the firmware download failed. What is the exact model of your adapter? http://linuxtv.org/wiki/index.php/E3C_EC168  lists more than one which fit vendor:device of 18b4:1689
[23:02] <BarkingFish> douglarret: that sounds very odd.   Is it something like an nvidia or that kind of thing?
[23:03] <genii-around> douglarret: When grub failed, did it give some kind of informative message?
[23:03] <douglarret> BarkingFish, nvidia and it is the same disk I used to insall 12.04 on notebook and usb install - still think it may be the disk?
[23:04] <BarkingFish> douglarret: as a rescue on that - if it does lock up, you can go to a terminal and type  sudo service kdm restart and see if that does the trick
[23:04] <douglarret> genii-around, nothing informative - no
[23:05] <BarkingFish> and no, it might be the video adapter - I have heard of people having issues with nvidia things -- unfortunately, I don't have any myself, so I can't help
[23:05] <genii-around> douglarret: Which device did you tell it to install to? eg: /dev/sda or /dev/sdb  or something more like /dev/sda1 /dev/sdb2   or so on
[23:05] <douglarret> BarkingFish, "sudo service kdm restart" booting the cd in live mode or rescue?
[23:06] <BarkingFish> when you're in live mode - if you can't start kde, press ctrl, alt and f1 together to get to a terminal, and type that command. It will kill kde and restart it
[23:06] <douglarret> genii-around, did not give me an option to choose - but it was trying to install to sda when the system was installed to sdb
[23:07] <gladii> genii-around : DUTV009 SinoVideo 3420A-2, I think it is this one, since the USB ID is 18b4:1689 e3C Technologies DUTV009
[23:07] <BarkingFish> now I'm gonna stop interrupting, and let genii-around see if they can help you :)
[23:07] <douglarret> BarkingFish, thanks for your help :)
[23:07] <genii-around> douglarret: Yes, sda would have been correct.. it wants the first disk in the boot sequence usually
[23:08] <genii-around> gladii: OK. Give me some time for research and other helping
[23:08] <BarkingFish> np douglarret - I am happy to help where I can, but I will always hand over to more experienced users when I need to, only been on kubuntu 1 year :)
[23:08] <gladii> genni-around : Thank you :-)
[23:09] <gladii> genii-around: Thank you
[23:09] <douglarret> genii-around, yes I was expecting that? but was weird when it faild to install there.
[23:09] <genii-around> douglarret: Is there some raid setup on that system?
[23:10] <douglarret> genii-around, no - nothing like that
[23:14] <douglarret> system hangs when booting live 12.04 ctrl+alt+f1 is not responsive
[23:15] <genii-around> gladii: When it is plugged in, does: lsmod     show a driver in use named mxl5005s or mxl5007t  ?
[23:16] <genii-around> douglarret: I have not used LiLo for years :(
[23:17] <douglarret> genii-around, same - since redhat days? and I can see why with my kernel panic issue
[23:17] <douglarret> genii-around, trying to rescue system not
[23:17] <douglarret> now
[23:18] <genii-around> douglarret: The livecd boots OK?
[23:18] <gladii> genii-around : I couldn't find that one, however, these are my results http://pastebin.com/cDGXnW3F
[23:19] <douglarret> genii-around, no hangs with graphic artifacts and ctrl+alt+f1 is not responsive
[23:20] <genii-around> douglarret: Did you try with nomodeset ?
[23:20] <genii-around> !nomodeset
[23:21] <douglarret> genii-around, thanks looking at it now
[23:23] <douglarret> genii-around, I managed to install from text mode I am just trying to insall grub now? I have a 12.04 install on usb on same system - is there any way in copying that working system to the sdb and installing grub after that...
[23:24] <douglarret> grasping at straws here?
[23:25] <genii-around> gladii: I can't seem to find some alternate firmware for this device. Can you pastebin result of: sudo lshw   please. It will have somewhere in it more details of the device
[23:27] <genii-around> douglarret: The idea would be to somehow obtain a command-line on another linux ( either on cd or on another disk/partition of the same machine) then to chroot into the affected install partition and have it do update-grub
[23:28] <genii-around> Away from the computer a few minutes but returning
[23:29] <douglarret> genii-around, I can boot 12.04 on same machine from usb stick? is there a howto for this fix?
[23:29] <gladii> genii-around: http://pastebin.com/38AAqcP1
[23:29] <gladii> genii-around: Thank you for all your help.
[23:29] <gladii> genii-around : I am sorry, I consume more of your time.
[23:32]  * douglarret googling chroot
[23:36] <douglarret> genii-around, would this work from the working install of  kubuntu and include both options in the grub menu? "/usr/sbin/grub-install --recheck --no-floppy /dev/sda"?
[23:47] <JMichaelX> genii-around: well, i installed the xorg-edgers ppa on this machine, but so far there does not seem to be any improvement at all.
[23:48] <JMichaelX> i did boot into an icewm session, just to see whether or not the fan ran as much as it is running in KDE, and indeed it did. to me that also points the figured more squarely at nvidia.
[23:50] <douglarret> passwerd