[00:02] <bobo123> if I make a feature request (don't know how though) that the scanner-program instead of just saying boohoo should say "sorry your scanner needs a firmware-file, do you want me to search your windows partition for it, copy it and fix everything for you automaticly? ..so you think anyone would really code such a feature?
[00:03] <bobo123> *do
[00:10] <modelf_> alright, i just got my key
[00:10] <ZachK_> modelf_: cool
[00:10] <modelf_> i'm waiting for ubuntu to publish it so i can get the fingerprint
[00:10] <ZachK_> yup
[00:10] <modelf_> So this GPG key is like a numeric identity?
[00:13] <ZachK_> i believe so...never truly understood it myself
[00:27] <starcraftman> modelf_: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GnuPrivacyGuardHowto If ya still have questions, gpg keys are primarily a means of verify integrity of content and authenticity of source via trust.
[00:34] <goodtime_> lo all
[00:36] <modelf_> yikes
[00:36] <modelf_> okay
[00:36] <modelf_> did all of that
[00:37] <modelf_> registered my OpenPGP key and signed the ubuntu CoC
[00:37] <modelf_> https://launchpad.net/~christopherkmoore1
[00:38] <modelf_> starcraftman: thanks
[00:38] <starcraftman> modelf_: any other questions?
[00:38] <starcraftman> lo goodtime_
[00:39] <modelf_> i'm just getting started
[00:39] <goodtime_> hey hows it going
[00:39] <modelf_> ZachK_ was helping me
[00:39] <goodtime_> help this man
[00:39] <modelf_> i think i need to make a wiki now
[00:41] <ZachK_> modelf_: sorry i'm back now my man
[00:41] <ZachK_> hello goodtime_
[00:41] <goodtime_> hello
[00:42] <goodtime_> my box freeze's up when i youse my cam
[00:43] <goodtime_> and i have that xfce gui
[00:43] <starcraftman> goodtime_: hmmm, you mean a webcam? Can you elaborate a bit more?
[00:43] <goodtime_> so now my net stat doesnt have a ip
[00:43] <ZachK_> Are you using Ubuntu with the XFCE environment or are you using Xubuntu
[00:44] <ZachK_> modelf_: join #ubuntu-beginners-wiki and #ubuntu-beginners-team
[00:44] <goodtime_> i have a gearhead cam
[00:44] <goodtime_> its got a mic and video as well
[00:45] <goodtime_> i realy freeze up when i start it thats all i know
[00:48] <starcraftman> goodtime_: do anything to get that camera installed? Also, do you know what graphic card you have and if you enabled drivers? Drivers can be found System > Admin > Hardware.
[00:48] <goodtime_> aahhhh
[00:49] <goodtime_> so just about everything is a file
[00:49] <starcraftman> huh?
[00:49] <goodtime_> in linux
[00:49] <starcraftman> goodtime_: oh yes, the config files are all text.
[00:49] <goodtime_> vrmind i was just spacein i guess
[00:49] <starcraftman> No registry here.
[00:50] <goodtime_> i dont think i did register here yet
[00:51] <goodtime_> i realy need to
[00:51] <goodtime_> forgot how to thoughlol
[00:51] <starcraftman> goodtime_: well if you want, did you install driver?
[00:51] <goodtime_> yes
[00:51] <goodtime_> ill find it hang on
[00:52] <starcraftman> goodtime_: I meant both for webcam and graphics card. Processing raw video can be heavy depending.
[00:53] <goodtime_> its installed just not ativated
[00:54] <starcraftman> goodtime_: which? graphics? Why not active?
[00:54] <goodtime_> should i remove it
[00:54] <goodtime_> graffics
[00:55] <goodtime_> idk why lol
[00:55] <starcraftman> goodtime_: ideally you should enable the graphics driver. What card do you have?
[00:55] <goodtime_> nivdia gforce
[00:57] <starcraftman> goodtime_: hmmm, k, so just activate it in the hardware drivers menu I indicated.
[00:57] <starcraftman> Shouldn't have any trouble.
[00:57] <goodtime_> ty
[01:02] <goodtime_> ill brb
[01:03] <stlsaint> starcraftman: hola senor
[01:06] <starcraftman> how goes stlsaint
[01:06] <goodtime_> graffics work fine now
[01:10] <starcraftman> goodtime_: good, so no more problem with cam?
[01:10] <starcraftman> binary driver usually required for intensive video.
[01:10] <goodtime_> yeah i was just running a ironman xvid
[01:11] <goodtime_> poor quality
[01:11] <goodtime_> the file was thoe
[01:12] <goodtime_> a dvd prob plays good
[01:14] <goodtime_> nope neither dose the cd's
[01:14] <goodtime_> i need permissions i think
[01:15] <goodtime_> i can read but i cant wright
[01:16] <blurb> question, I'm using CD/DVD Creator and its asking me if I want to burn an .iso image or the contents.  What's the difference and which do I want if I want to burn a disk to give Ubuntu to a friend?
[01:17] <starcraftman> goodtime_: what ya mean? I'm not following, the video sources are problem or the playback is poor?
[01:17] <ZachK_> blurb: if you want to burn an Ubuntu Live CD then you'd burn and ISO Image
[01:18] <goodtime_> bolth starcraftman
[01:18] <goodtime_> i cant play a dvd nor the cd
[01:18] <goodtime_> hahaha weird
[01:19] <starcraftman> goodtime_: can't help with encoding, try to reconvert from dvd source. As to playback, to do dvd you need ubuntu-restricted-extras package.
[01:19] <starcraftman> likely same problem with audio.
[01:19] <blurb> Yes I want to burn the liveCD.  So from the two choices you're saying I need to chose butn the iso instead of choosing the contents of the .iso?
[01:19] <goodtime_> no audio works fine
[01:19] <starcraftman> blurb: on the brasero home page, click  Burn Image in left pane. That's the right one.
[01:21] <starcraftman> goodtime_: install package anyway, open a terminal Applications > Accessories > Terminal and type:
[01:21] <starcraftman> sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[01:22] <goodtime_> E: Couldn't find package package
[01:22] <starcraftman> goodtime_: bah, ok, System > Administration > Software Sources.
[01:23] <goodtime_> ok
[01:23] <starcraftman> Ensure communiy maintained and software restricted enabled.
[01:23] <blurb> starcraftman: I just want to make sure -- since I'm not using brasero, but the other one that comes w/ the system, and what it says exactly is "Burn as file", or "Burn Contents"
[01:23] <starcraftman> Close and click reload, then retry command.
[01:24] <goodtime_> i dont understand that
[01:25] <goodtime_> hmm
[01:25] <starcraftman> blurb: you want to burn contents, burning a file would mean just burning the archive.
[01:26] <blurb> starcraftman: Okay.  So that I understand better, when would you want to burn the archive?
[01:26] <goodtime_> what do i need from my softwear sourse
[01:27] <starcraftman> blurb: when you want to simply transport the archive, a ISO is a container like a zip.  If you burn the iso your burning the contents of the archive, like you extracted zip and burned its contents.
[01:27] <starcraftman> goodtime_: check on first tab community maintainsed software, then close and reload.
[01:28] <goodtime_> ok
[01:28] <blurb> starcraftman:  ZachK_: Thankyou both!
[01:29] <ZachK_> yup
[01:30] <goodtime_> i cant find it hang on lol
[01:32] <starcraftman> goodtime_: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=500020
[01:32] <starcraftman> See installing with gui section. I gotta run a bit.
[01:40] <goodtime_> #deb cdrom:[Ubuntu 10.04 LTS _Lucid Lynx_ - Release amd64 (20100429)]/ lucid main restricted
[01:40] <goodtime_> # See http://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes for how to upgrade to
[01:40] <goodtime_> # newer versions of the distribution.
[01:41] <Chesamo> starcraftman, does ubot have a pastebin command?
[01:41] <paultag> !pastebin | Chesamo
[01:41] <ubot2> Chesamo: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://tinyurl.com/imagebin | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.
[01:41] <Chesamo> Ah cool.
[02:02] <blurb> question: If I burn an .iso LiveCD to a disk, and I still have some room on the disk (and I clicked the option to leave space open) is there a way I can put more files on there that can be accessed by the liveCD.  Like new user guides and other documentation for new Ubuntuans?
[02:03] <goodtime_> if the disk finalizes
[02:03] <goodtime_> you cant
[02:03] <blurb> I made sure not to finalize it.
[02:04] <goodtime_> should work then
[02:04] <stlsaint> blurb: your better off making a persistent usb install
[02:05] <blurb> Okay, I know how to make a persistent usb install, but I'm wondering if I can do something similar (but w/o persistence obviously) on a CD.
[02:06] <blurb> Mainly I want to include some new user stuff that when someone is trying out a liveCD they can get to it.
[02:10] <Chesamo> blurb: Something easier would be to open the ISO in somehing like archive manager or winRAR and add files to the ISO
[02:11] <blurb> Chesamo: Ah, that's an interesting idea.
[02:13] <Chesamo> blurb: It's the best way to do it, since generally ISO burning finalizes
[02:17] <ZachK_> hello |friTTe|
[02:17] <nUboon2Age> blurb: Here's something you might find useful: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCDCustomization
[02:18] <|friTTe|> ZachK_:  hi
[02:24] <stlsaint> http://techbuket.net/lunix-183.html
[02:29] <blurb> Thanks stlsaint: Chesamo: and nUboon2Age: I'll experiment with those ideas.  Thanks!
[04:13] <loki20> Hey all got this after an update  ----"Ubuntu is running in low-graphics mode.
[04:13] <loki20> The following error was encountered. You may need to upgrade your configuration to solve this.
[04:13] <loki20> (EE)PSB(O): The stolen base is ox3f800000.
[04:13] <loki20> (EE)PSB(O): screnIndex is 0; fbPhys is: 0x3f800000; fbsize is: 0x007df000
[04:13] <loki20> (EE)PSB(O): First SDVO output reported failure to sync or output is not trainded!!!
[04:13] <loki20> (EE)[drm] drm Open failed.
[04:13] <loki20> (EE)PSB(O): [dri] DRScreenInit failed.
[04:13] <loki20> Disabling DRI.
[04:13] <loki20> (EE)[drm] Could not uninstall irq handler
[04:13] <loki20> (EE)PSB(O): This driver currently needs DRM to operate" How do I fix?
[04:14] <Chesamo> !pastebin |loki
[04:14] <ubot2> loki: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://tinyurl.com/imagebin | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.
[04:14] <loki20> ok sorry
[04:15] <Chesamo> loki: Have you tried running sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg ?
[04:15] <Chesamo> er, rather
[04:16] <Chesamo> loki: sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg
[04:17] <loki20> I'll try that....thanks
[04:20] <loki20> Chesamo: My Netbook tells me that xserver-org is not installed
[04:21] <Chesamo> loki20: try just sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xorg
[04:24] <loki20> Chesamo: When I try sudo dpkg-freconfigur -phigh xorg my terminal just resets to david@Dell-Mini10:~$
[04:25] <Chesamo> loki20: Since it didn't give you an error that means the command went though and worked.
[04:26] <Chesamo> loki20: Are you using Ubuntu Netbook Remix?
[04:26] <loki20> yes
[04:27] <loki20> I'll try and restart and let you know how it goes.
[04:29] <loki20> Chesamo: Still the same error. When I originally set the machine up I used a w-get command to enable the 3d graphics. I am trying to find that now
[04:32] <Chesamo> loki20: wget? You shouldn't have needed to do that.
[04:33] <duanedesign> loki20: what do you get from the command:   sudo jockey-text -e xorg --list
[04:36] <loki20> duanedesign: kmod:wl - Broadcom STA wireless driver (Proprietary, Enabled, In use)
[04:37] <loki20> Chesamo: I got the wget command from an Ubuntu forum.
[04:38] <Chesamo> loki20: what drivers was it for?
[04:38] <loki20> I have the Poulsbo GMA 500 graphics card
[04:42] <duanedesign> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsVideoCardsPoulsbo/
[04:42] <duanedesign> this is interesting^^
[04:45] <duanedesign> seems the proprietary drivers for the GMA500 graphics core are poorly supported.
[04:47] <loki20> duanedesign: The drivers are not supported well. I did have it working great until I did an update. My kernel now is 2.6.31-32 generic
[04:48] <loki20> I am trying to restart in the earlier kernel....and %$#@$$## not dice. still same error.
[04:50] <loki20> another question. I have the mini 10 in a dual boot state with Windows xp (to use the the GPS) If I upgrade to the 10.04 will it hose my dual boot?
[04:51] <duanedesign> loki20: http://www.internetling.com/2010/05/12/howto-intel-gma-500-poulsbo-on-ubuntu-10-04-lucid-lynx/
[04:52] <duanedesign> is the forum thread mentioned there the one you used
[04:52] <loki20> no i used tthe one for Karmic
[04:56] <loki20> I'll look this over   http://www.internetling.com/2010/05/12/howto-intel-gma-500-poulsbo-on-ubuntu-10-04-lucid-lynx/
[04:57] <duanedesign> loki20: also the thread mentiones the IRC channel ##gma500
[04:57] <loki20> cool thanks
[06:56] <psudheera> hi.. i'm sudheera new to linux and still trying to learn about it.  ok.here's the problem.i'm currently using ubuntu 9.10 carmic and need to upgrade to 10.04 . I have downloaded the iso and burned into a cd and the cd working perfectly (i have installed it my friend's computer ).when i'm trying to upgrade carmic, i insert the cd and nothing appeared. and i hit alt+f2 and enter gksu "sh /cdrom/cdromupgrade"then appear a
[07:01] <psudheera> hi.. i'm sudheera new to linux and still trying to learn about it.  ok.here's the problem.i'm currently using ubuntu 9.10 carmic and need to upgrade to 10.04 . I have downloaded the iso and burned into a cd and the cd working perfectly (i have installed it my friend's computer ).when i'm trying to upgrade carmic, i insert the cd and nothing appeared. and i hit alt+f2 and enter gksu "sh /cdrom/cdromupgrade"then appear a
[07:07] <holstein> psudheera: can you just do it over the internet?
[07:07] <holstein> is that an issue?
[07:07] <holstein> if you run the 'update-manager'
[07:07] <holstein> you should be promted to 'upgrade'
[07:08] <holstein> there are other options, thats just the easy way
[07:08] <holstein> hmmm
[10:21] <shahan> how can I add it to my another panel?     http://i714.photobucket.com/albums/ww145/shahan011/panel.png
[10:21] <shahan> that is... if I delete it.. How can I get it back again?
[10:22] <hobgoblin> I think you are pointing at the windows list - right click - add to panel - windows list
[10:22] <hobgoblin> but I can't be sure as that is a small screenshot :)
[10:37] <shahan> I lost my network indicator icon from top panel... How can I get it back?
[10:38] <geirha> add to panel -> notification area
[12:01] <insanity99> hey guys
[12:01] <insanity99> how do i get my ubuntu to be like it was the day i installed it?
[12:04] <lukjad> insanity99 Do you want to save anything?
[12:04] <lukjad> Documents, settings, favourates, internet history?
[12:05] <insanity99> well i would like to keep my '/home' partition if possible
[12:05] <lukjad> Do you want the stuff you installed left installed but acting as if they were never used?
[12:05] <lukjad> insanity99 See, if you want to remove programs you installed, you can use computer janitor to remove them
[12:06] <insanity99> yes if possible, my system seems completly messed up and no one can seem to help me
[12:07] <lukjad> insanity99 Well, reinstalling is always an option. Also, System -> Administration -> Computer Janitor is where you find computer janitor
[12:08] <lukjad> Be careful in computer janitor
[12:08] <insanity99> will that affect fglrx? thats the cause of all my problems i think
[12:08] <lukjad> It removes programs and erases settings
[12:08] <lukjad> insanity99 It may do that, take a peak in it
[12:09] <insanity99> ok
[12:09] <lukjad> Peek
[12:09] <phillw> else, you can hive off your /home and re-install. having a seperate /home is handy
[12:09] <lukjad> What ever
[12:09] <lukjad> phillw +1
[12:09] <phillw> http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/separatehome
[12:11] <insanity99> ok anyone know why i cant uninstall fglrx? i get this error
[12:11] <insanity99> E: fglrx: subprocess installed post-removal script returned error exit status 2
[12:12] <insanity99> http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/ubuntu-63/updated-drivers-everything-gone-wrong-please-help-813109/ this is my thread on the problem, if you want to get up-to date on whats going on
[12:12] <walkkenn_> Hi, I have installed Ubuntu 10.4 netbook on my acer aspire 3 times.  During start up I always get (Low Disk Space  This computer has only 102MB disk space remaining) even though I have set aside 100GB for Ubuntu.  It just doesn't recognize it.  How do I fix this?
[12:12] <insanity99> using wubi?
[12:13] <insanity99> computer janitor cant help me either lol, installArchives() failed
[12:17] <duanedesign> walkkenn_: can you pastebin (http://paste.ubuntu.com) the results of the Terminal command: df
[12:22] <walkkenn_> done
[12:23] <duanedesign> can you post the address you get after you click paste
[12:23] <duanedesign> it will be something like paste.ubuntu.com/fwi4r
[12:28] <walkkenn_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/447722/
[12:28] <walkkenn_> that it?
[12:29] <duanedesign> walkkenn_: yep
[12:31] <insanity99> anyone think they know what my problem is?
[12:32] <insanity99> hopeing not to have to reinstall my OS
[12:33] <Guest32582> hello i had a bad upgrade 9.04 to 9.10
[12:34] <Guest32582> i have no conection with internet on that laptop
[12:35] <Guest32582> the connection failes due to the bad upgrade
[12:35] <Guest32582> no recovery modes are working
[12:35] <Guest32582> I can get kdm starting up
[12:36] <Guest32582> but no touchpad or internet
[12:36] <greenjon> wired or wireless?
[12:37] <Guest32582> neither
[12:37] <Guest32582> neither is working
[12:38] <greenjon> ouch
[12:38] <duanedesign> walkkenn_: System > Administration > Gparted should show you your partition table.
[12:38] <greenjon> i'm not sure then :/
[12:39] <duanedesign> walkkenn_: not sure why it does not have the space you think it does. Is their an 'unallocated' space shown by gparted.
[12:40] <walkkenn_> can't find gparted
[12:40] <duanedesign> walkkenn_: ok
[12:40] <duanedesign> walkkenn_: sudo apt-get install gparted
[12:44] <Guest32582> can i install from live
[12:44] <Guest32582> cd
[12:44] <Guest32582> 10.04 over a bad upgrade 9.10?
[12:46] <walkkenn_> Some unallocated, but lots of unknown
[12:46] <duanedesign> Guest32582: if you do an install instead of an upgrade you will need to back up your data
[12:47] <Guest32582> ok is it lost for sure
[12:47] <duanedesign> Guest32582: do you get an error when trying to boot into recovery mode?
[12:47] <walkkenn_> the unknown is from the original 1st install attempt, there shouldn't be anything on it.  How do I put it together with the other?
[12:48] <Guest32582> I dont now how to irc: but no recovery modes are working
[12:49] <duanedesign> walkkenn_: ok you will need to boot up with a liveCD to change the partitions.
[12:49] <walkkenn_> no CD available, used the USB device
[12:49] <Guest32582> all recovery modes are ending on the same spot
[12:50] <phillw> walkkenn the usb will be fine
[12:50] <Guest32582> but manually i can start up wit sudo kdm
[12:50] <walkkenn_> OK, what do I do?
[12:51] <phillw> walkkenn use the gparted to make the 'unknown' area into ext4
[12:51] <duanedesign> Guest32582: where do Recovery Mode end?
[12:52] <phillw> walkkenn you can then 'grow' the partition into the newly made area.
[12:52] <Guest32582> lines in black screen with text as starting ... done; last line is starting battery state... done
[12:53] <walkkenn_> is it pretty intuitive for a nob?
[12:53] <insanity99> quick question, can transmission bittorrent minimise to system tray?
[12:54] <hobgoblin> insanity99: yes
[12:54] <insanity99> how?
[12:55] <hobgoblin> I just close it and it minimises - hang on I'll check the prefs
[12:55] <duanedesign> walkkenn_: it is not bad. You can r-click on the partitions and choose delete and resize/move, etc
[12:56] <duanedesign> Guest32582: are you able to run commands?
[12:56] <Guest32582> yes
[12:56] <hobgoblin> insanity99: prefs - Desktop - show in notification area
[12:56] <walkkenn_> Cool, thanks
[12:56] <phillw> walkkenn yes, it's pretty str8 forward
[12:57] <insanity99> ah thanks
[12:58] <hobgoblin> insanity99: consequently you need to Ctrl+Q to quit - or use the menu  - the red x only takes it to the not area
[12:59] <insanity99> ok thanks
[12:59] <insanity99> neil@neil-desktop:/media/01CB02B43FF794B0_/programming/python$ function_test.py
[12:59] <insanity99> function_test.py: command not found
[12:59] <insanity99> anyone know why i cant open it?
[13:00] <insanity99> did i type the wrong command?
[13:01] <hobgoblin> no good asking me - it's all voodoo :) perhasp you need to   python function_test.py
[13:02] <hobgoblin> people are quick to wander off today :)
[13:04] <jace_d> Greetings, I Need Help Getting A Nokia 6288 to sync with pc(10.04)
[13:05] <Guest32582> duanedesign ?
[13:05] <jace_d> SorryWha?
[13:11] <insanity99> if anyone can just have a look at my thread and see if they can help me with it i would be http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/ubuntu-63/updated-drivers-everything-gone-wrong-please-help-813109/
[13:23] <insanity99> anyone?
[13:24] <hobgoblin> I was looking at that one earlier today
[13:24] <insanity99> it's causing me so much grief
[13:25] <hobgoblin> do you have a xorg.conf file?  ls ls /etc/X11/xorg*
[13:25] <hobgoblin> whoops - only one ls there
[13:27] <hobgoblin> can you run that in a terminal
[13:27] <insanity99> yes, want me to pastebin it?
[13:27] <hobgoblin> yes please
[13:28] <insanity99> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/447740/
[13:30] <hobgoblin> insanity99: so what si the real issue here - that compiz is causing problems - or that the graphics are fubar?
[13:31] <insanity99> not sure do be honest, i would guess its the graphics since all the problems i have uninstalling it
[13:31] <Guest32582> duanedesign?
[13:33] <hobgoblin> insanity99: did you actually manage to reinstall it - if not what were the errors - if you remember that is
[13:34] <hobgoblin> if not you could try to remove xorg reboot and see what jockey says then
[13:36] <hobgoblin> insanity99: it's a bit hard to tell what's gone on from the thread
[13:37] <insanity99> when i try to remove the driver i get error E: fglrx: subprocess installed post-removal script returned error exit status 2
[13:37] <duanedesign> Guest32582: sorry i got caslled away
[13:38] <hobgoblin> insanity99: you get the same thing if you try and install I guess then
[13:39] <duanedesign> Guest32582: i would try booting into recovery and running the command: sudo dpkg --configure -a
[13:39] <insanity99> i have tried recovery mode then selecting repair broken packages
[13:41] <insanity99> yeah i get the same error
[13:41] <Guest32582> stopped cause too many faults/mistakes
[13:42] <insanity99> when trying to install it's slightly differnt, 'exit status 1' rather than 2
[13:45] <hobgoblin> insanity99: havea go at this http://swiss.ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=9279314&postcount=32
[13:46] <duanedesign> Guest32582: what about the commmand:  sudo apt-get -f install
 i will try that now
[13:48] <Guest32582> i have no connection any more
[13:49] <insanity99> what do i do? type the whole command in terminal?
[13:50] <hobgoblin> insanity99: each line is seperate  - I'd copy and paste - highlight with mouse then middle click in the terminal
[13:50] <insanity99> ok
[13:53] <insanity99> heres what happend http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/447757/ think it worked? do i need to restart before i try jocky again?
[13:53] <hobgoblin> wait a moment please
[13:53] <insanity99> ok
[13:54] <hobgoblin> exit unless you already have
[13:54] <insanity99> yeah i did
[13:54] <hobgoblin> then sudo mv /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.1006
[13:55] <insanity99> ok done
[13:55] <hobgoblin> then try a reboot and look in jockey again
[13:55] <insanity99> ok be back in a minute, hope this works
[13:55] <insanity99> thanks for the help :)
[13:56] <duanedesign> Guest32582: sounds like you have a broken package that prevented the upgrade
[13:58] <duanedesign> Guest32582: here is a blog post describing one way to fix broken packages http://blog.bodhizazen.net/linux/apt-get-how-to-fix-very-broken-packages/
[13:59] <Guest32582> i wll look at it first i make coffee, busy with making backups now it's still possible
[14:00] <sogeking99> this is instanity99, wow it booted in 1680x1050 rather than low graphics mode, things are looking good so far
[14:00] <sogeking99> jocky installed drivers! thank you so much i really thought i was going to have to reinstall my OS
[14:02] <hobgoblin> welcome - please make sure you go back to linuxquestions and update the thread - I will check ;)
[14:02] <hobgoblin> nothing worse than being left in the dark
[14:03] <sogeking99> yeah i am now :) i will also post the link with the fix, incase anyone else has the issue they can search the forum
[14:03] <hobgoblin> that or just paste in what you did
[14:03] <sogeking99> yeah thats a better idea
[14:03] <hobgoblin> glad I could help - not often I bother with ATi issues - never used them myslef
[14:04] <hobgoblin> though I should post there and get at least one post to my name lol
[14:04] <sogeking99> i will be sticking with jocky installs now, no more from the site
[14:04] <sogeking99> lol
[14:05] <hobgoblin> sogeking99: I have only once in 3 years needed to not use the hardware drivers thing
[14:05] <sogeking99> yeah
[14:07] <sogeking99> i updated the thread
[14:08] <sogeking99> also youtube videos are working again, however still with awful screen tearing :( lol i just accept there is currently no fix for that
[14:10] <sogeking99> compiz settings manager is still not orking though, and cant enable visual effects either
[14:13] <sogeking99> i'm not to concerned about this issue though, a fix would be nice though
[14:16] <walkkenn_>  I still have the problem I had earlier.  (Low Disk Space 42mb)  Tried to work with Gparted, but didn't seem to help.  I think I'm on the right track, but, maybe I don't know exactly what to do.  I can see I'm moving things around, but, It's not fixing the problem  http://paste.ubuntu.com/447762/   I think I'm on the right track  Additional info  http://paste.ubuntu.com/447766/
[14:16] <cprofitt> hey guys -- can anyone tell me where the mount point is for windows shares mounted using 'connect to server' from the 'places' menu?
[14:30] <hobgoblin> walkkenn_: can you run this and pastebin it for me please   sudo fdisk -l
[14:30] <hobgoblin> cprofitt: I would have thought it was in /media
[14:31] <walkkenn_> check
[14:32] <thewrath> hey all
[14:32] <thewrath> anyone here?
[14:33] <hobgoblin> no-=one thewrath
[14:33] <thewrath> lol
[14:33] <walkkenn_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/447776/  Like I said - it is the 3rd attempt at installation
[14:34] <thewrath> i am trying to link to a shared .bashrc file and it is on another server that i am on
[14:34] <thewrath> is there a way to link it
[14:34] <thewrath> link to it
[14:34] <hobgoblin> walkkenn_: much as I suspected :) are you booted into your latest install the moment - that is where you got the df output from
[14:34] <walkkenn_> what's the best ubuntu 10.4 netbook book?
[14:35] <hobgoblin> walkkenn_: I have no idea - I run old desktops as I am too tight to spend money
[14:35] <leoquant> thewrath, i can't help with that question, maybe someone else
[14:36] <hobgoblin> thewrath: same here - sorry :( wasn't ignoring you ... deliberately that is
[14:36] <thewrath> no that is okay
[14:37] <leoquant> thewrath, just stay around there are several members into serverlike things
[14:37] <thewrath> yera
[14:37] <leoquant> there=here
[14:37] <thewrath> i was/am a member here
[14:37] <hobgoblin> walkkenn_: if you want me to go through the repartitioning with you - then we can do that - but I need to know the answer to the last question
[14:37] <thewrath> i used to have voice in here i am nto sure what happened with that
[14:38] <hobgoblin> thewrath: you got a sore throat and lost it :D
[14:38] <leoquant> :P
[14:38] <hobgoblin> I lost my voice too ...
[14:38] <leoquant> hahaha
[14:38] <thewrath> yea work has been killerthe past couple of months
[14:38] <leoquant> its magic this channel
[14:38] <thewrath> lol
[14:39] <hobgoblin> though I just left so ...
[14:43] <walkkenn_> yes, I am booted into the latest install (sorry coffee refill time)
[14:43] <walkkenn_> i'm back with you
[14:47] <walkkenn_> yes I am booted from my latest install - that is where I got the df output from (missed the question)
[14:51] <duanedesign> hello walkkenn_
[14:51] <walkkenn_> Yes i'm here
[14:53] <walkkenn_> Is there another question?
[14:53] <duanedesign> walkkenn_: you were not able to delete any of the extra directories?
[14:54] <duanedesign> walkkenn_: only need one swap and one Linux partition
[14:54] <walkkenn_> I don't know what to delete
[14:54] <walkkenn_> I am afraid to delete the wrong thing
[14:54] <cprofitt> hobgoblin: I would have thought Media as well
[14:54] <duanedesign> walkkenn_: yeah. We need to figure out which is from the latest install
[14:54] <cprofitt> but alas it was not...
[14:55] <hobgoblin> duanedesign: got that now :)
[14:55] <walkkenn_> The one with the highest number?
[14:55] <hobgoblin> walkkenn_: reboot with the livecd and we can do it now if you want
[14:55] <walkkenn_> OK, reboot now?
[14:56] <duanedesign> walkkenn_: yea/8
[14:56] <duanedesign> oops
[14:56] <hobgoblin> walkkenn_: I just need to check that you were booted into this one
[14:56] <hobgoblin> when you ran df - if that is the case then reboot :)
[14:59] <hobgoblin> duanedesign: not sure which is going to be quickest - moving partitions or reinstall if it's not a hassle to do the latter
[15:00] <hobgoblin> I suspect the latter ;)
[15:04] <duanedesign> hobgoblin: yeah. I guess whether or not you have to move the partition with all the data before resizing..
[15:05] <hobgoblin> I think you do - it's at the end ...
[15:05] <hobgoblin> we shall see :)
[15:06] <Guest32582> duanedesign
[15:07] <Guest32582> looks like kdebase runtime is in correct
[15:07] <Guest32582> but without any connection ....
[15:07] <walkkenn> Hi, I am up again using my USB boot
[15:08] <hobgoblin> walkkenn: welcome back - first question - is there anything in the install you need to keep ?
[15:08] <walkkenn> no
[15:09] <walkkenn> does that mean when this is over we are going to reinstall 10.4
[15:09] <duanedesign> Guest32582: if you can get rid of the package
[15:09] <hobgoblin> ok - so if it is looking like the resizing is going to take hours do you want to reinstall - but this time use the disk properly
[15:09] <Guest32582> how
[15:09] <duanedesign> Guest32582: hmmm, but without an internet connection I am not sure how to finish the upgraade
[15:09] <walkkenn> I can reinstall if that's easier
[15:10] <hobgoblin> walkkenn: ok then - let's get on with it then - go to sys -admin - partition editor
[15:11] <cprofitt> duanedesign: do you have any idea where a 'connect to server' connection is mounted?
[15:11] <walkkenn> don't see partition editor
[15:12] <hobgoblin> gparted
[15:13] <hobgoblin> oh hang on - what is this - is it a normal ubuntu iso or a netbook thing?
[15:13] <walkkenn> opened gparted
[15:13] <walkkenn> Netbook 10.4
[15:13] <hobgoblin> aah ok - now you should see some padlocks in the window
[15:13] <walkkenn> yes
[15:13] <hobgoblin> one of the swap partitions should have one - right click that partition and swapoff
[15:14] <walkkenn> I have three swap partitions
[15:14] <walkkenn> which one
[15:14] <hobgoblin> refresh and there should be none - however if all of the swaps have padlocks do the same
[15:14] <hobgoblin> until there are no padlocks we'll ot be able to work on the partitions
[15:15] <walkkenn> done
[15:16] <hobgoblin> ok - no padlock symbols at all anywhere :)
[15:16] <walkkenn> all gone
[15:17] <hobgoblin> all of the linux partitions are inside the extended partition
[15:17] <walkkenn> yes
[15:18] <hobgoblin> and you have no live data at all in any of the installs you've made - just the newest one and it's swap
[15:18] <walkkenn> you mean linux-swap?
[15:18] <hobgoblin> yes
[15:19] <walkkenn> done
[15:19] <hobgoblin> if that is the case you can delete sda5 to sda9 - leaving sda10 and sda11
[15:19] <duanedesign> cprofitt: ~/.gvfs  ?
[15:22] <walkkenn> now I have 5,6,7,8,9, all in 3
[15:24] <hobgoblin> right click each and select delete
[15:25] <walkkenn> except for 3?
[15:25] <hobgoblin> then when you've done that click apply - there is no going back from that
[15:25] <hobgoblin> nope not sda3 you need that one
[15:27] <walkkenn> done
[15:28] <hobgoblin> ok - so now you have unallocated space - sda10 - sda11 inside sda3 - is that correct?
[15:29] <hobgoblin> if not - screenshot from apps - accessories - paste it to imgur.com or some image host
[15:30] <walkkenn> no, as I deleted the lower numbers the other partitions dropped down to lower numbers.  Now all I have is 95gb unallocated in sda3
[15:30] <hobgoblin> what happened to sda10 and sda11 then?
[15:31] <hobgoblin> did you delete those 2 as well ?
[15:31] <walkkenn> when I deleted 5 and 9 they changed designation to 8 and 9.  The short answer is yes
[15:32] <hobgoblin> ...
[15:32] <hobgoblin> ok - so I'm glad you didn't have anything you needed to keep then
[15:32] <walkkenn> right
[15:33] <hobgoblin> more questions - do you want to hibernate/suspend ? how much RAM do you have?
[15:33] <walkkenn> is there a place I can look that up
[15:34] <hobgoblin> in terminal -  apps - accessories            free -m
[15:37] <hobgoblin> walkkenn: no need to pastebin that - just need the one number  in Mem: under total
[15:37] <walkkenn> total 990 used 914 free 76
[15:37] <hobgoblin> k
[15:38] <ZachK_> at it again eh hobgoblin?
[15:38] <hobgoblin> in gparted - right click inside the unallocated space - create new partition - type linux-swap - make the size about 1500Mb
[15:39] <hobgoblin> walkkenn: ^^ then right click again and create new partition - ext4
[15:39] <hobgoblin> ZachK_: what - helping in someone else's channel :D
[15:39] <ZachK_> hobgoblin: lol
[15:39] <ZachK_> hobgoblin: you can always come back to the dark side buddy
[15:40] <hobgoblin> did someone say something ?
[15:40] <ZachK_> and hiyas Silver_Fox_
[15:40] <hobgoblin> ;)
[15:40] <ZachK_> hobgoblin: i'm screwin with ya's
[15:40] <cprofitt> guys -- I found the folder
[15:40] <ZachK_> go cprofitt go cprofitt
[15:40] <hobgoblin> cprofitt: where is it then?
[15:40] <cprofitt> when you use 'connect to server' it mounts in in ~/.gvfs
[15:41] <hobgoblin> aaah
[15:41] <Silver_Fox_>  I was wondering about that when you were looking earlier cprofitt
[15:43] <walkkenn> how much space before and after.  0 before and the remaining unallocated after?
[15:43] <cprofitt> You can also list your gvfs mounts with gvfs-mount -l
[15:43] <hobgoblin> walkkenn: you there?
[15:44] <walkkenn> yes, I asked 0 space before and the remaining allocated after?
[15:46] <walkkenn> the free space preceding the partition and the free space after; 0 before and 96gb after?
[15:52] <walkkenn> hobgoblin - still there what is the size of the 2nd partition and how much space preceding
[15:53] <hobgoblin> sorry - was afk
[15:53] <walkkenn> no sweat
[15:53] <hobgoblin> I don;t knwo how big the unallocated space is :)
[15:54] <walkkenn> what is a good size for the free space preceding and following a partition?
[15:54] <walkkenn> how big should I make the 2nd partion?
[15:54] <hobgoblin> hang on
[15:55] <walkkenn> OK, so the 2nd partition should be the remaining unallocated space?
[15:55] <walkkenn> about 96gb
[15:57] <hobgoblin> walkkenn: you need at least 2 - one swap and one ext4
[15:57] <hobgoblin> I have no idea how big the unallocted space is so I have no idea big the first one is that leaves 96Gb :)
[15:58] <walkkenn> Should the swap also be ext 4?
[16:00] <hobgoblin> nope - linux-swap as file type
[16:01] <hobgoblin> walkkenn: I worked it out - you have approx 100Gb to play with - what have you done so far?
[16:02] <collinp> Technically, you don't *need* swap, but unless you have, like, 12GB RAM, it's probably a good idea to have it.
[16:02] <hobgoblin> technically you might not
[16:03] <hobgoblin> though I wonder how you;d hibernate without it
[16:06] <Silver_Fox_> I think swap is important
[16:06] <Silver_Fox_> Though mine is far to large
[16:06] <hobgoblin> lol
[16:07] <Silver_Fox_> Well you know how big it is right hobgoblin  ?
[16:08] <phillw> i guess it depends if you're editing an image file of 2GB.. I curse my brothers'
[16:08] <phillw> digital camera !!
[16:09] <walkkenn> OK, system froze up
[16:09] <Silver_Fox_> Well my swap is 11.6GB
[16:09] <Silver_Fox_> Hehe
[16:10] <phillw> lol - only has a 80GB hard drive :-(
[16:12] <walkkenn> hobgoblin, you there?
[16:13] <phillw> walkkenn: how do you have your partitions now?
[16:14] <hobgoblin> sort of
[16:15] <hobgoblin> gone again
[16:15] <phillw> indeed
[16:23] <phillw> wb walkkenn
[16:23] <walkkenn> hobgoblin you there?
[16:23] <phillw> he's around
[16:24] <walkkenn> anyway my system froze up and I had to reboot and redownload xchat
[16:24] <hobgoblin> yea I'm here
[16:24] <phillw> okay, are you on usb boot now?
[16:25] <walkkenn> I am in usb boot and with gpart I am about to create the swap partition and the ext4 partition
[16:25] <hobgoblin> walkkenn: ok - changed plan slightly aas you have afair old amount of room
[16:26] <walkkenn> how much space should I leave between the partitions
[16:26] <hobgoblin> do a swap - 1.5Gb then do 2 seperate ext4 partitions - one of 10Gb the other whatever is remaining
[16:27] <hobgoblin> make them concurrent - no space between - or at least I never do
[16:27] <walkkenn> got it
[16:27] <walkkenn> stand by
[16:28] <hobgoblin> so you will have swap followed by 2 other partitions
[16:31] <hobgoblin> walkkenn: once it has done that - quit gparted and start the installer - go through until you reach the partitioning section and shout
[16:31] <walkkenn> got it
[16:33] <walkkenn> I'm there
[16:34] <hobgoblin> in the installer?
[16:34] <hobgoblin> ok - choose manual partitioning
[16:35] <hobgoblin> you'll get a list of partitions
[16:35] <walkkenn> done
[16:35] <hobgoblin> pick the 10Gb one - then close to the bottom there's an edit button
[16:36] <walkkenn> ok
[16:36] <hobgoblin> from the use as box - ext 4 and from the mountpoint box - pick /
[16:37] <hobgoblin> then save or close that one - back at the partition list - pick the largest ext4 partition - edit - uses as ext4 and mountpoint of /home
[16:39] <walkkenn> done
[16:39] <walkkenn> forward?
[16:40] <hobgoblin> if both partitions have been set up then yes
[16:40] <walkkenn> OK
[16:41] <hobgoblin> now if you need to reinstall your /home partition will be safe as long as you don't format it - just use manual option
[16:42] <walkkenn> OK thanks, I appreciate the help.  Anything else I should know?
[16:43] <hobgoblin> nope that's it
[16:43] <walkkenn> thanks
[16:43] <hobgoblin> welcome
[17:05] <thewrathjr> hey all it is the wrath
[17:05] <thewrathjr> exit
[17:06] <thewrath> hi
[17:06] <hobgoblin> booooo hissssss
[17:06] <hobgoblin> :)
[17:10] <thewrath> yea still trying to research about that issue
[17:10] <thewrath> i was talking abotu earlier hobgoblin
[17:10] <hobgoblin> I've looked a few  times - you;ve not got anywhere then  guess
[17:11] <thewrath> not thus far
[17:12] <hobgoblin> :(
[17:22] <mohi2911> hey all
[17:23] <Chesamo> Morning mohi2911
[17:23] <Silver_Fox_> Hello
[17:25] <mohi2911> hi Chesamo and Silver_Fox_ =]
[17:54] <cprofitt> exit
[17:55] <thewrath> hey cprofit
[19:12] <thewrath> exit
[19:12] <thewrath> exit
[19:12] <Chesamo> hehehe
[20:02] <Chesamo> PolarBearJohn
[20:02] <Chesamo> You are in the same room as me on another server and it's freaking me out
[20:05] <glorious_> I'm trying to connect from tsclient on 10.04 to a Vista machine. I get error "Autoselected keyboard map en-us, ERROR: [other computer's IP address] unable to connect.  Can anyone help?
[20:07] <Chesamo> glorious_: is a firewall running on the server machine?
[20:10] <PolarBearJohn> um ok
[20:11] <Chesamo> PolarbearJohn: I'm Void in #Concession on FurNet :P
[20:11] <PolarBearJohn> OH lol ok
[20:11] <Chesamo> PolarBearJohn: FREAKIN ME OUT MAN
[20:12] <PolarBearJohn> OMG!!
[20:12] <PolarBearJohn> scary
[20:12] <Evil_Silver_Fox_> More than me >:)
[20:12] <Chesamo> I'll move this conversation over there.
[20:14] <glorious_> Chesamo: no I made sure.
[20:15] <Chesamo> glorious_: hm... Windows firewall too?
[20:16] <glorious_> vista is the server and I made sure the windows firewall was turned off
[20:17] <Chesamo> glorious_: I'm finding some things that tsclient isn't compatible with the authentication method used in Vista. Have you tried rdesktop?
[20:18] <glorious_> Chesamo: no I haven't tried that.  Does it have a gui?
[20:19] <Chesamo> glorious_: It has a frontend called "grdesktop", which is available in the Universe repos
[20:20] <glorious_> good that helps.  To begin is there a way I can confirm that my Ubuntu is 'seeing' the Vista machine?
[20:21] <Chesamo> glorious_: You can ping it ping -c 4 <ip address>
[20:23] <glorious_> Chesamo: (trying this out)
[20:26] <glorious_> Chesamo: hmmm... looks like something else is wrong.  ping is not reaching it.  I'll go back to see if it is on the same network and all and come back later.  Thanks for your help!
[20:26] <Chesamo> glorious_: Oh, haha. Good luck!
[21:06] <AJH101> H I installed Lucid via Wubi on a newish laptop. All seemed to be running fine but I am now presented at startup with the Wallpaper and a white terminal screen - any ideas?
[21:08] <Chesamo> AJH101: Sounds like xterm. Is this after you log in?
[21:09] <AJH101> yes - When I try startx it is not authorised - sudo startx: it is suggested I delete /tmp/.X0-lock  - help!
[21:09] <Chesamo> AJH101: Do you enter a password to log in, or does it log you un automatically?
[21:09] <Chesamo> in*
[21:10] <AJH101> auto login after 3 seconds - i have had probs with the pw previously at this point
[21:11] <AJH101> any ideas?
[21:11] <Chesamo> AJH101: Turn off the autologin, then do this:
[21:12] <Chesamo> AJH101: At the bottom of the login screen, there should be a pulldown list called "Sessions". It might have "GNOME failsafe" set as the default/. Change that to GNOME.
[21:12] <AJH101> but i have had probs with pw loops before! :-(
[21:12] <AJH101> ok
[21:12] <Chesamo> AJH101: This is the fastest and easiest way to fix this problem. You're going into failsafe GNOME mode.
[21:13] <AJH101> recovery mode?!
[21:13] <Chesamo> AJH101: No. Failsafe GNOME. It's a session.
[21:15] <AJH101> only gave myself 3 seconds before auto login - can i do this via the terminal screen? (sorry)
[21:16] <AJH101> or live cd?
[21:16] <Chesamo> AJH101: Run sudo gdmsetup
[21:17] <Chesamo> AJH101: Not that I'm aware of
[21:17] <AJH101> sorry baby
[21:17] <AJH101> brb
[21:17] <Chesamo> AJH101: Oh, one of the options is for session.
[21:17] <Chesamo> ...."baby".....?
[21:20] <goodtime_> anybody here
[21:20] <Chesamo> goodtime_: yes
[21:20] <goodtime_> fhey
[21:20] <goodtime_> hey*
[21:21] <goodtime_> wouldnt know how to kill firefox with a command would you Chesamo
[21:21] <Chesamo> goodtime_ killall firefox
[21:21] <goodtime_> ok
[21:22] <goodtime_> firefox: no process found
[21:22] <goodtime_> ahhh
[21:22] <Chesamo> goodtime_: a different method is a little more complcated, but it works
[21:22] <goodtime_> ok
[21:22] <Chesamo> goodtime_: ps -ef |grep firefox
[21:23] <goodtime_> ok
[21:23] <Chesamo> goodtime_, then take the process ID of firefox, copy it, and paste it into the command: kill -9 <PROCID>
[21:23] <goodtime_> hmmm
[21:23] <Chesamo> goodtime: the process ID is the first number you see
[21:25] <goodtime_>  5653  5428????
[21:26] <Chesamo> goodtime_: The first one on the line containing the firefox command. the process IDs won't stay the same each time
[21:28] <goodtime_> idk what im doing
[21:28] <goodtime_> lol
[21:29] <Chesamo> goodtime_: Can you use pastebin right now?
[21:29] <goodtime_> no
[21:30] <Chesamo> goodtime_: I'm going to ask you to paste the output of ps -ef |grep firefox, even though it's more than one line. Okay?
[21:31] <goodtime_> i reinstalled ubuntu because its better that all these other gui ive been useing so many stupid guis
[21:31] <goodtime_> so i have to start over again
[21:31] <goodtime_> ok ill paste
[21:32] <goodtime_>  ps -ef |grep firefox
[21:32] <goodtime_> root      5685  5660  0 16:31 pts/0    00:00:00 grep --color=auto firefox
[21:32] <Chesamo> ....root?
[21:32] <goodtime_> is that wrong
[21:32] <Chesamo> Are you logged in as root, or did you sudo ps?
[21:32] <goodtime_> sudo bash
[21:33] <Chesamo> goodtime_: It'd be easier if you weren't root.
[21:33] <goodtime_> oic ok
[21:34] <goodtime_>  killall firefox
[21:34] <goodtime_> firefox: no process found
[21:34] <goodtime_>  5690  5410  0 16:34 pts/0    00:00:00 grep --color=auto firefox
[21:35] <Chesamo> goodtime_: According to that, you don't have firefox running.
[21:35] <goodtime_> no i dont
[21:35] <Chesamo> um
[21:35] <Chesamo> that
[21:35] <Chesamo> uh
[21:35] <Chesamo> You kind of need Firefox running if you want to try this.
[21:36] <goodtime_> im running what i can so i dont crash my ram is tweeked so high
[21:36] <goodtime_> ok
[21:37] <goodtime_> ok killall works now
[21:37] <goodtime_> is waiting
[21:37] <goodtime_> for the next command
[21:38] <Chesamo> if killall works, then that's all you need
[21:38] <goodtime_> goodtime@goodtime-laptop:~$  killall firefox
[21:38] <goodtime_> goodtime@goodtime-laptop:~$
[21:38] <goodtime_> thats the responce to the command
[21:38] <goodtime_> is there no more to do then
[21:39] <goodtime_> ill say this firefox is still running
[21:39] <goodtime_> lol
[21:40] <phillw> goodtime_: if ps -ef |grep firefox says you do not have ffox running, you do not have it running
[21:40] <goodtime_> 5698     1  0 16:36 ?        00:00:00 /bin/sh /usr/lib/firefox-3.6.3/run-mozilla.sh /usr/lib/firefox-3.6.3/firefox-bin
[21:40] <goodtime_> goodtime  5702  5698  1 16:36 ?        00:00:03 /usr/lib/firefox-3.6.3/firefox-bin
[21:40] <goodtime_> goodtime  5731  5410  1 16:40 pts/0    00:00:00 grep --color=auto firefox
[21:41] <phillw> kill 5968
[21:41] <phillw> kill 5702
[21:42] <phillw> is easier to issue
[21:42] <phillw> top
[21:42] <phillw> and let that kill them
[21:42] <goodtime_> kill 5968
[21:42] <goodtime_> bash: kill: (5968) - No such process
[21:42] <phillw> issue
[21:42] <phillw> top
[21:42] <phillw> look for firefox
[21:43] <phillw> once you have the number, press the letter 'k' and type in the nunber, then answer 'y' to the request
[21:44] <phillw> you should see firefox finish
[21:44] <goodtime_> its not in top
[21:44] <goodtime_> ofcourse
[21:45] <goodtime_> maybe i should reboot
[21:45] <phillw> goodtime_: then issue
[21:45] <phillw> ps -ef |grep firefox
[21:45] <phillw> to confirm
[21:46] <phillw> Chesamo: I've got to go try to recover my own luubntu system, sorry to leave you with it :-\
[21:46] <Chesamo> phillw: That's fine. Good luck.
[21:52] <goodtime_> fo
[21:52] <goodtime_> fire fox sill runs
[21:52] <goodtime_> idk man lol
[21:53] <goodtime_> ill get it sooner or later
[21:53] <Chesamo> goodtime_: firefox is running now?
[21:53] <goodtime_> yes
[21:53] <goodtime_> where's pastebin
[21:53] <Chesamo> goodtime_: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/
[21:54] <goodtime_> ok good there
[21:55] <Chesamo> goodtime_: What?
[21:57] <goodtime_> meening paste bin opened up
[22:07] <goodtime_> im sorry i just dont get it no hard feelings
[22:07] <goodtime_> :)
[22:09] <Chesamo> goodtime_: I'm not entirely sure what you want to do
[22:09] <goodtime_> i want ot kill fire fox ,it taxes my ram
[22:09] <Chesamo> goodtime_: Can you not, simply, not start it up?
[22:10] <goodtime_> it starts
[22:10] <Chesamo> goodtime_: What do you mean? Automatically?
[22:11] <goodtime_> no manuly
[22:11] <goodtime_> but i got rid of it once and i was being less taxed
[22:11] <Chesamo> goodtime_: I guess I don't understand the problem. If Firefox taxes your RAM, then why don't you just not use it?
[22:11] <goodtime_> i just dont need it so i thought i do that
[22:12] <goodtime_> idk it was better gone
[22:12] <goodtime_> my ram dropped alot
[22:13] <goodtime_> ill be ok i guess
[22:13] <Chesamo> goodtime_: What browser would you rather use?
[22:13] <goodtime_> ill get this thing upto 4 gig soon it only 160$
[22:14] <goodtime_> chrome something idk lol
[22:14] <goodtime_> ill find it in my softwear center
[22:15] <Chesamo> goodtime_: sudo aptitude purge firefox && rm -r ~/.mozilla && sudo aptitude install chromium-browser
[22:15] <Chesamo> goodtime_: that should do the trick
[22:15] <goodtime_> ubuntu is better than all the other distros ive used
[22:15] <goodtime_> ok
[22:15] <goodtime_> as root?
[22:16] <Chesamo> goodtime_: Just copy and paste that whole line (without goodtime_: in it)
[22:16] <Chesamo> goodtime_: you should never need to log in as root. sudo takes care of that.
[22:17] <ZachK_> goodtime_: do you understand the "Sudo" command?
[22:17] <goodtime_> sort of
[22:17] <goodtime_> its like a supper command
[22:17] <ZachK_> wrong
[22:17] <goodtime_> lol
[22:17] <goodtime_> idk then
[22:18] <ZachK_> it's not a super command..what it really does is grants "Temporary" root access to the user
[22:18] <goodtime_> ok that was easy to understand
[22:19] <goodtime_> i get that anyhow
[22:19] <goodtime_> ty
[22:21] <goodtime_> well that seemed to work ill brb
[22:23] <stlsaint> Chesamo: all that command is not necessary...no need to remove ff and chrome is installed via package installer from site JFYI
[22:23] <Chesamo> stlsaint: Installed via package installer from site? Chromium is in the repos.
[22:23] <stlsaint> Chesamo: aye, i went with chrome from site
[22:24] <Chesamo> stlsaint: I don't trust Google.
[22:24] <stlsaint> hehe
[22:24] <Chesamo> stlsaint: And why would you not take from the repos? Keeps you up to date.
[22:25] <mohi2911> Chesamo, saw a video describing google toilet??
[22:25] <Chesamo> mohi2911: Negative
[22:26] <mohi2911> Chesamo, try seeing it and you ll laugh out a lot
[22:27] <stlsaint> Chesamo: aye, to each his own ;)
[22:28]  * mohi2911 whoises stlsaint
[22:30] <goodtime> my ram has dropped way down ty guys
[22:30] <goodtime> ty Chesamo :)
[22:30] <Chesamo> goodtime: You're welcome
[22:31] <goodtime>  :)
[22:31] <stlsaint> WOW...i never knew i could clear the channel screen
[22:31] <stlsaint> its truly like in terminal now
[22:31] <stlsaint> ls
[22:31] <stlsaint> LOL
[22:31] <stlsaint> awesome
[22:31] <goodtime> i found like 100 cd's
[22:32] <goodtime> in cases
[22:32] <goodtime> im rippen away here
[22:32] <Chesamo> stlsaint: Yep, useful for clearing all those "private" and "sensitive" conversations from your screen if you need to real fast!
[22:32] <stlsaint> i see
[22:32] <goodtime> there must have been a dj that lost his disks because its all differnt stuff
[22:33] <goodtime> im getting my modem changed saturday
[22:34] <goodtime> newer one
[22:34] <goodtime> free of charge
[22:35] <goodtime> then i should get 12mbs
[22:53] <ZachK_> heya switchgirl
[22:55] <switchgirl> ZachK_, hi :)
[22:56] <ZachK_> switchgirl: long time no see
[22:56] <switchgirl> ZachK_, my /media/ntfs wont unmount :s
[22:56] <ZachK_> switchgirl: (It's Zachk18) incase you don't know
[22:58] <ZachK_> hmm
[22:59] <ZachK_> switchgirl: meaning it won't unmount at all?
[22:59] <switchgirl> nope and i rebooted loads of times
[22:59] <ZachK_> hmm
[23:00] <ZachK_> one sec
[23:00] <ZachK_> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Mount/USB
[23:05] <stlsaint> switchgirl: manually unmount it
[23:05] <stlsaint> command: umount
[23:06] <PolarBearJohn> does anyone have a dog that does that weird backwards sneezing thing?
[23:06] <PolarBearJohn> does anyone have a dog that does that weird backwards sneezing thing?
[23:06] <pete_m> hi guys - my system koala nbr, got messed up at update to lucid . .now no boot 'cept to init=/bin/bash root shell from grub - otherwise hangs. .
[23:06] <PolarBearJohn> does anyone have a dog that does that weird backwards sneezing thing?
[23:06] <Chesamo> !ot |PolarBeatJohn
[23:06] <ubot2> PolarBeatJohn: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics. Thanks!
[23:06] <Chesamo> oops.
[23:06] <Chesamo> Misspelled too.
[23:07] <kermiac_work> haha, someone killed the polar bear
[23:07] <Chesamo> !ot |PolarBearJohn
[23:07] <ubot2> PolarBearJohn: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics. Thanks!
[23:18] <stlsaint> TexasJam: sup
[23:18] <TexasJam> hey
[23:18] <TexasJam> just getting some irc channels set - my first time on irc
[23:20] <TexasJam> does anyone use tomboy?
[23:28] <kermiac_work> TexasJam: I use tomboy, what's up?
[23:28] <stlsaint> TexasJam: are you really in texas?
[23:29] <TexasJam> stlsaint: ya
[23:29] <stlsaint> we have a texas irc channel... check out #ubuntu-us-tx
[23:30] <TexasJam> stlsaint: trying to figure out a CMS, wondering if I should build some simple wiki on my server or do use a pre made solution like tomboy and the ubuntu server
[23:30] <stlsaint> TexasJam: do both...good practice! :D
[23:30] <stlsaint> there are many great CMS to choose from
[23:31] <TexasJam> Ya, but I haven't found anything as simple as I'm thinking
[23:31] <stlsaint> drupal, joomla are both quite easy
[23:31] <TexasJam> ya great solutions but way to many features
[23:32] <TexasJam> i just want something like ether pad but on my own server, and maybe some permissions
[23:39] <kermiac_work> TexasJam: maybe look into gobby & sobby - http://gobby.0x539.de/trac/
[23:40] <kermiac_work> TexasJam: I've used it before. It's very easy to setup & works very well
[23:40] <kermiac_work> ahh... too slow again
[23:41] <stlsaint> kermiac_work: hehe, he will be back! ;D
[23:41] <kermiac_work> TexasJam: maybe look into gobby & sobby - http://gobby.0x539.de/trac/
[23:41] <kermiac_work> TexasJam: I've used it before. It's very easy to setup & works very well
[23:42] <TexasJam> kermiac_work: thanks! taking a look right now. hold on
[23:43] <kermiac_work> no probs TexasJam
[23:43] <TexasJam> looks like the use is mainly for collaborative coding?
[23:44] <TexasJam> That looks great! but I'm searching for a web browser solution so the users don't need to install anything
[23:44] <kermiac_work> TexasJam: you can use it for editing docs
[23:44] <phillw> TexasJam: you can look at the wiki system that ubuntu uses?
[23:45] <TexasJam> what is that phillw?
[23:45] <stlsaint> phillw: LOL...thats exactly wat i was going to say but i had a plate in my hand
[23:45] <stlsaint> TexasJam: you know what wikipedia is right? sorta same thing
[23:45] <stlsaint> TexasJam: moinmoin :D
[23:45] <kermiac_work> TexasJam: oh, in that case I use http://titanpad.com/
[23:45] <TexasJam> ahh, ya i've looked at moinmoin
[23:46] <TexasJam> titan pad is a port of etherpad which is what inspired me the idea
[23:48] <phillw> TexasJam: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/DocumentationHelp#Method 1. Use Synaptic Package Manager
[23:48] <phillw> is one example (sorry, i just happened to have it to hane)
[23:49] <TexasJam> I want to achieve the same goal as titanpad: single html page that i can give to others; no 'edit this page' button so that the other users can just add things to a list or article (plain text is fine); self hosted
[23:50] <phillw> TexasJam: another idea would be make a phpbb3 forum, they work okay for posting stuff to such as http://forum.phillw.net/
[23:50] <phillw> that way you can post easily in to sections, and allow trusted peopl to edit them
[23:50] <TexasJam> Thanks phillw
[23:51] <phillw> it's just a couple of ideas for you to think of
[23:52] <TexasJam> ya, I don't like the forumn idea-even though it gives me some fine grain control on privileges.
[23:53] <TexasJam> The priority is more around seeing the page of text and editing it-having the changes saved back to a text file on the server if possible
[23:53] <bobo123> if I install a second ubuntu, or for example mint, and later get tired of it, I guess I just remove its partition - but should I do something grub2:ish do remove it from the menu too?
[23:54] <phillw> idk, then TexasJam, there are many sites you can just post information to.
[23:54] <Chesamo> bobo123: When you install Ubuntu it will be overwritten
[23:54] <TexasJam> ya, thanks for the input all!
[23:55] <phillw> bobo123: if you are if 'playing' with installs, can i recommend you keep a seperate /home partition
[23:56] <phillw> bobo123: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/separatehome!
[23:56] <user766> Anyone have display resolution problems?  I found an answer for my Hardy 8.04
[23:56] <phillw> http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/separatehome
[23:57] <phillw> user766: have a look on the forums, http://ubuntuforums.org/
[23:57] <phillw> there may people who would appreciate your input
[23:59] <user766> I did look, and found some interesting but complex answers which did not work.  One line I did find useful. sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start