[12:23] <xukun> I can play youtube films. I radder use only free software if that is possible. I,m using Karmic 64bits. Any help would greatly be appreciated
[12:23] <Empty_foo> ahh..  i new one of them was
[12:23] <theadmin> jrib: Output: http://codepad.org/odb7h1BL
[12:23] <xukun> I can not ..
[12:23] <Lint> how can I manage disk quotas? it doesn't allow me use the whole disk
[12:23] <iceroot> xukun: you can try gnash, its a free flash player
[12:23] <Younder> jrib, subset, most of the developement tools are missing
[12:23] <jrib> Younder: no they aren't...
[12:24] <jrib> theadmin: are you on amd64 or i386?
[12:24] <MurielGodoi> hi all< i just add usbcore.autosuspend=1 in etc/default/grub but powetop keep asking me to enable that. What I miss?
[12:24] <theadmin> jrib: i386
[12:25] <Younder> They are easilly aquired through a sudo apt-get install <whatever>, so it isn't much of a problem
[12:25] <nicolas_> iceroot: in gparted my two HDDs are listed as unallocated while the third option is called dev/mapper/nvidia
[12:25] <nicolas_> iceroot: not sure what the mapper thing even is
[12:25] <jrib> theadmin: let me install it here so I can see what's going on
[12:25] <iceroot> nicolas_: then it is raid, so use the alternate cd, the normal cd cant handle raids (without using mdraid at live-cd)
[12:25] <torocatala> hi
[12:25] <jrib> Younder: oh, you mean a desktop install.  I see
[12:25] <torocatala> i have a problem
[12:25] <iceroot> nicolas_: mapper = raid
[12:25] <torocatala> whit a script
[12:25] <torocatala> in bash
[12:25] <FloodBot1> torocatala: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:25] <iceroot> !enter | torocatala
[12:26] <torocatala> ok, sorry
[12:26] <nicolas_> iceroot: is that on the ubuntu site?
[12:26] <iceroot> nicolas_: yes
[12:26] <Younder> jrib, oh - you have the server version..
[12:26] <iceroot> !alternate | nicolas_
[12:26] <torocatala> I do script to eliminate some files of some folders. When i do manually, it works perfectly, but when I run the script, fails
[12:26] <nicolas_> iceroot: thanks
[12:26] <jrib> Younder: no, I was just speaking about how the repositories compared; what's available instead of what's default
[12:27] <iceroot> torocatala: its because of the working directory
[12:27] <Take0n> How do I see the running processes?
[12:27] <jrib> Take0n: system -> administration -> system monitor
[12:27] <iceroot> torocatala: use absolute paths, not realtiv paths or set the working directory
[12:27] <iceroot> Take0n: top (on shell)
[12:27] <torocatala> iceroot, i try whit absolute path already and fails
[12:27] <rycrostud> Thanks.  I'm not looking for an RPM, but a yum repo that has a more up to date version of OpenSSH available.
[12:27] <Take0n> thanks jrib and iceroot
[12:27] <MurielGodoi> Hi guys,  how can I enable usb autosuspend as default in my 9.10?
[12:28] <Younder> jrib, ubuntu is minimalistic. And then you add as you go. Debian contains the lot. Including a lot you wil never use.
[12:28] <iceroot> torocatala: use set -x in script, to enable debbunging for the bash
[12:28] <torocatala> thx iceroot
[12:29] <rapha> Hi!
[12:29] <rapha> Where can I get libstdc++.so.5 for Ubuntu 9.10?
[12:30] <Take0n> Hm.. I am running tilda and I want to set it's transparency through compiz.. I go to Opacity settings in compiz and add name=tilda and value 10. I played around with value but nothing changes.. I do the same for gnome-panel using name=gnome-panel value 10 and it works just fine
[12:30] <theadmin> jrib: And it ain't helping!... Bleh! Can it be my current firefox does not support this java? Though i tried one from java.com too, allright.
[12:30] <Lint> how can I change the reserved space for users on hard drive?
[12:30] <epinky> rapha: http://packages.debian.org/stable/base/libstdc++5
[12:30] <jrib> theadmin: can you make sure you have libnpjp2.so as part of sun-java6-bin in your filesystem?
[12:31] <jrib> Lint: tune2fs
[12:31] <syn-ack> hey guys. I
[12:31] <syn-ack> err
[12:31] <bibinou> rapha: looks like the libstdc++5 package is the way to go http://packages.ubuntu.com/fr/hardy/libstdc++5
[12:32] <MannyPacquiao> how to make my themes transparent
[12:32] <rapha> epinky: bibinou: thanks, merci!
[12:32] <syn-ack> Hey guys, I'm having an issue here and I would like to know if anyone would be able to help me. instead of posting the issue in here I have in forums post and I'd like to post here so you can ref it and see if you have the fix.
[12:32] <Ph3nix> plop
[12:32] <syn-ack> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=8285225#post8285225
[12:32] <torocatala> maybe when i run rm -R in a script they put off the shopt dotglob ? i'm trying to delete hide files
[12:32] <theadmin> jrib: As you wish... result: http://codepad.org/5G1Pm46M
[12:32] <torocatala> i can do manually
[12:32] <jrib> theadmin: make sure it exists?
[12:33] <Ph3nix> o
[12:33] <zaoul> I have a VT capable Intel cpu, a VT capable and enabled motherboard yet when I boot the 64 live cd, /proc/cpu info does not show vmx or svm (forgot which one is Intel) what gives?
[12:33] <zaoul> ..karmic
[12:33] <theadmin> jrib: Uh, if locate finds it, it does... but okay, i'll go there with nautilus if that's what you want.
[12:33] <jrib> theadmin: isn't locate cached in some way?
[12:33]  * Ph3nix oo
[12:34] <torocatala> but the script shows "No such file or directory" like the if shopt dotglob are off
[12:34] <Dr_Willis> locate uses a database that can get out of date also.
[12:35] <torocatala> ok, fixed it adding "shopt -s dotglob" at the top of the script LOL
[12:35] <theadmin> jrib: It exists.
[12:35] <jrib> theadmin: and /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/libjavaplugin.so ?
[12:35] <theadmin> so, once again... to make it clear, i updated firefox with Ubuntuzilla. Could that be the problem?
[12:36] <theadmin> jrib: this one does not exist.
[12:36] <jrib> theadmin: hrmm, what does "locate javaplugin.so" return if anything?  I'm on an amd64 debian install so some details may be different
[12:37] <KaMikaZzi> can someone please take a look at this error I get when trying to restart gnome from tty (sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start): http://pastebin.com/m1eeb9f05
[12:37] <jrib> theadmin: if that's not fruitful, pastebin /var/lib/dpkg/info/sun-java6-plugin.postinst
[12:38] <Dr_Willis> KaMikaZzi:  on 9.10 use 'sudo service gdm start'
[12:38] <Younder> I have the problem tat Tkinter is installed in 6.4 version an the rest in a 6.2 version. How do I move it?
[12:38] <KaMikaZzi> alright thx
[12:38] <KaMikaZzi> guess I forgot root >.<
[12:38] <Dr_Willis> KaMikaZzi:  upstart changes things. best to always use the service command
[12:38] <aperson> is there a way to configure my thumb buttons on my mouse so they *don't* go back and forward?
[12:39] <Younder> ln -s bit etc.
[12:39] <jrib> aperson: bind them to something else using for example xbindkeys or imwheel
[12:39] <Younder> but are there any ansty side effects?
[12:39] <Younder> nasty
[12:40] <theadmin> jrib: That thing: http://codepad.org/nhSWre2Z ... The "locate" results in: http://codepad.org/bsBT1GbM
[12:40] <eddym> guys i download the tar how do i do this part tar xf tip.tar.bz2 && cd gspca-*
[12:40] <eddym> downloaded
[12:41] <DarwinSurvivor> is the netbook remix "menu" system available for non-debian machines?
[12:41] <jrib> theadmin: cool, and « readlink -f /usr/lib/xulrunner-addons/plugins/libjavaplugin.so » points to the libnpjp2.so from before?
[12:41] <theadmin> jrib: Yepp.
[12:41] <xukun> iceroot, thanks. would gnash also work with chrome browser?
[12:42] <Dr_Willis> eddym:  the && is  makign it 2 differnt commands. if the first command succedss, the 2 command is ran
[12:42] <indus> xukun: try swfdec , its much better
[12:42] <iceroot> xukun: i dont know, never used gnash but if i am correct its not working 100%
[12:42] <Dr_Willis> eddym:  you could install/use 'unp' instead of tar -x whatever also...
[12:42] <aperson> jrib, where is whatever is binding them now?  in 9.04, when I bound them via compiz, that overrided them, now it doesn't globally
[12:42] <jrib> theadmin: alright, I'm going to assume the default firefox checks /usr/lib/xulrunner-addons/plugins for plugins.  Are you running the firefox from the repositories?
[12:42] <indus> iceroot: swfdec is a  good option
[12:42] <jarod51> Hi
[12:42] <Younder> flash under crome is non functional in my Chrome beta
[12:42] <iceroot> indus: also on 64bit?
[12:42] <jrib> aperson: don't know
[12:42] <indus> iceroot: yes
[12:42] <theadmin> jrib: Nope. Installed via a python script that gave me the most recent version.
[12:43] <indus> iceroot: always had a 64bit
[12:43] <Younder> appart from that it is fine
[12:43] <jarod51> I need some help to install adobe air 64bits under karmic koala please :)
[12:43] <iceroot> !info swfdec jaunty
[12:43] <mosta> samba is sucks
[12:43] <iceroot> mosta: you have a question?
[12:43] <Younder> fastest browser ever, particularly on complex web pages
[12:44] <eddym> dr_willis:unp is like unpacker
[12:44] <Dr_Willis> !air
[12:44] <Dr_Willis> !info unp
[12:44] <jrib> theadmin: ah, well that explains it... heh.  There's not much point in doing that.  If you use the repository version, you don't have to worry about updates since update-manager takes care of that.  But if you insist on keeping this version just create a symlink to that .so from the plugins/ folder in the directory of the new firefox
[12:44] <mwallner> :D talking about chrome ?
[12:44] <theadmin> jrib: funny thing is i can't FIND that new firefox.
[12:44] <mwallner> I just installed "chromium" .. pretty nice.. like it even more than chrome =)
[12:44] <jcrawford> damn i can't seem to get Ubuntu to run on my mac pro, even tried formatting the entire drive without OS X being installed :(
[12:45] <mosta> sharing people !!!
[12:45] <mwallner> try firefox-3.5
[12:45] <mosta> i wanna share How!!
[12:45] <iceroot> !doesnotwork | jcrawford
[12:45] <Younder> Mwallner: yes
[12:45] <jcrawford> iceroot yea well it won't boot at all lol
[12:45] <Dr_Willis> I just right click on a driectory and use the shareing feature :) it worked here.. and suprised me that it did work
[12:45] <tigertiger> hi
[12:45] <mwallner> Younder: I like chromium.. it's really fast!
[12:45] <mosta> hii
[12:45] <jrib> theadmin: readlink -f $(which firefox)
[12:45] <iceroot> jcrawford: post details, errors and so on. how should anyone help you?
[12:46] <jcrawford> i can get it to be seen by rEFIt when I have OS X installed and try a dual boot but when Grub loads it does so to a flasing _ cursor
[12:46] <jcrawford> or i get the grub prompt
[12:46] <mwallner> Youder: but there's just this daily repo.. but I guess it's really stable.. is has never crashed up to now ^^
[12:46] <jcrawford> but never have i gotten Ubuntu to load unless I installed under VM
[12:46] <eddym> dr_willis: did the unp now how do i use it
[12:46] <Valentina> MenZa: Yeah, thank you, I had to do some things. Ok, I'll look into the links you provided here.
[12:46] <jcrawford> tried about 20 times over the last 4 days heh
[12:46] <iceroot> !enter | jcrawford
[12:46] <Younder> mwallner, But fash turns up as gable
[12:47] <Younder> flash
[12:47] <Valentina> MenZa: About the mounting of more hard drives, I mean.
[12:47] <eddym> dr_willis: tar comes compressed do i extract it and where
[12:47] <theadmin> jrib: Mine's 3.5.5... please give the appropriate command :D i can't figure out.
[12:47] <mwallner> Younder: .. do you mean the flash-support ? .. I'm running x64.. everything works fine!
[12:47] <SetiAmon> Hey is there any way to imrpove audio,something like a filter to make things sound crisper and such?
[12:47] <jrib> theadmin: hmm?  What did that last command return?
[12:47] <SetiAmon> is there anyway to tell which version of alsa i have?
[12:47] <Younder> mwallner, No you can't hardy crash it as support software run's in a sepperate process
[12:48] <epinky> jarod51:  this could help http://www.bauer-power.net/2009/05/getting-adobe-air-to-work-in-ubuntu-904.html
[12:48] <theadmin> jrib: I typed this in: "readlink -f $3.5.5", i assume i did something wrong though
[12:48] <mwallner> Youder: but that's nice =)
[12:48] <LjL> SetiAmon, uh, any filter that gives the impression of a "crisper" sound or such will, by definition, be altering the audio, and therefore make it *worse* for any good input
[12:48] <jrib> theadmin: don't change anything: readlink -f $(which firefox)
[12:48] <theadmin> ...why the HELL is it in /opt!?!!?!
[12:49] <jrib> theadmin: /opt and /usr/local/ are the right places to install things outside of the repositories
[12:49] <aguitel> how Customized grub2?
[12:49] <tigertiger> how can play the mp3 file on ubuntu ???
[12:49] <theadmin> jrib: Oh. Okay.
[12:49] <jcrawford> i will probably just install Ubuntu on this work computer today but I hope that it is compatable with the hardware heh otherwise i just waste time
[12:49] <theadmin> tigertiger: Go to a terminal, run this "sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras"
[12:49] <London90> tigertiger: you need to install ubuntu-restricted-extras to get the mp3 codec
[12:50] <Failrar> mosta, samba is wins
[12:50] <jcrawford> will Ubuntu recognize bluetooth keyboard/mice on boot or do i have to pair them everytime?  I ask because when i used Fedora it made me pair them with Bluez every boot
[12:50] <tenebrae> hey o
[12:51] <SetiAmon> for sometimes when streaming music or audio in movie player I get a slight buzz
[12:51] <tenebrae> Is it allowed to ask help questions in here?
[12:51] <jrib> tenebrae: that's the *only* kind we allow :)
[12:51] <iceroot> !ask | tenebrae
[12:51] <SetiAmon> i tried installing restricted extra's,codec's etc but that just screws up the audio and then i have to purge
[12:51] <tigertiger> theadmin :   how i go to a terminal  .. I am a newer
[12:51] <brad__> i can't connect with telnet? To my box or anything else
[12:52] <napster> tenebrae: Just ask
[12:52] <jrib> brad__: what?
[12:52] <iceroot> brad__: use ssh
[12:52] <iceroot> !ssh | brad__
[12:52] <London90> SetiAmon: then it's probably a problem with your audio setup. Can you play a file which ubuntu has built in support for eg. ogg?
[12:52] <tenebrae> Cool, simply put - other than the PPPOECONF terminal fix, is there any other way in GUI which you can save and not have to do every time to make DSL work on 9.10?
[12:52] <Mcnuggz> can anyone help me understand this error http://pastebin.com/d1adc234d  (be gentle im a noob)
[12:53] <SetiAmon> yeah
[12:53] <Pici> !gksudo | Mcnuggz
[12:53] <SetiAmon> when playing in flash in browser and stuff its fine
[12:53] <epinky> tigertiger: Applications -> Accesories -> Terminal
[12:53] <SetiAmon> eitherway,I am still putting my computer after going back to jaunty
[12:53] <London90> SetiAmon: what happens to the audio when you install the restricted extras?
[12:53] <SetiAmon> has any progress been made in karmic about audio
[12:54] <SetiAmon> london98:static,distortions,breaks.
[12:54] <sfv> http://pastebin.ca/1664812 anyone can explain why it wants to remove those pkgs?
[12:54] <Mcnuggz> Pici: i still get the same error with gksudo
[12:54] <London90> SetiAmon: do you use a soundcard (which?) or built in ?
[12:54] <SetiAmon> it doesn't matter,the soudn is fine i guess,its just a annoying static type sound but 1000x better then it was in karmic
[12:54] <tenebrae> ah well, I am just kinda surprised they haven't fixed that yet. It's what's keeping me from getting the quite nice 9.10
[12:54] <SetiAmon> X-Fi
[12:54] <Madpilot> Mcnuggz, do other commands w/ sudo work? Is it just nautilus?
[12:54] <freetime> hi , can somebody help me , i need to monitoring process activity and build a chart , can i do this , and whats tools i need to use
[12:55] <London90> Mcnugg: what do you need a root nautilus for I'm sure you could do it via commandline
[12:55] <tenebrae> So, no DSL fix in 9.10?
[12:55] <eise> mm
[12:55] <sfv> what does pkg{u} mean?
[12:56] <Mcnuggz> if i do sudo gedit it opens with no errors
[12:56] <London90> freetime: as map a project you're doing or measure computer resources/
[12:56] <eise> Hi guys, i got a program with no extension and i got no clue on how to run it, can someone point me in the right direction?
[12:56] <iceroot> Mcnuggz: dont use sudo with gui-program
[12:56] <XVampireX> Hi
[12:56] <Mcnuggz> Madpilot: i try to get samba to work
[12:56] <iceroot> !gksudo | Mcnuggz
[12:56] <XVampireX> Oy, hmm
[12:56] <gianluca> !it
[12:57] <tenebrae> yeah kinda what I expected.
[12:57] <freetime> London90: map tasks activity , how much from memory consume for exemple kdm
[12:57] <London90> eise: then how to you know it's a program? files often don't have extensions in linux. If it's a program you may just need may it executable with a permission
[12:58] <eise> London90, it is: http://gridwars.marune.de/
[12:58] <tigertiger> I type this command to install mp3 but
[12:58] <Pici> Mcnuggz: It doesnt matter if it works, it may be causing permissions issues that could cause issues later.  Anyway. I found http://launchpad.net/bugs/434921 which looks to be the same issue. One commenter suggested removing ~/.gconf/apps/nautilus and then trying it again.
[12:58] <tigertiger> the system tell me it is wrong
[12:58] <iceroot> tigertiger: what command?
[12:59] <indus> did anyone by modern warfare 2
[12:59] <Lint> what can I use to defragment ext3 filesystem? or a certain file only?
[12:59] <London90> eise: if you have unzipped then right click on the gridwars file, go over to permissions then check the execute as a program box
[12:59] <tigertiger> sudo apt -get install ubuntu -restricted -extras
[12:59] <ectospasm> tigertiger: apt-get, not apt -get
[12:59] <Blank__> Lint, i believe ext3 doesn't require defragging
[12:59] <London90> Lint: you don't need ext3 doesn't fragment in the like fat and ntfs
[12:59] <jet> hi can i ask a qurestion  please
[12:59] <SetiAmon> what about ext4?does it need defragging
[12:59] <London90> SetiAmon: nope
[12:59] <Lint> of course it does
[12:59] <London90> jet: of course
[13:00] <jet> k cheers
[13:00] <Pici> tigertiger: You have an extra space next to every dash there. its sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[13:00] <XVampireX> join #linuxmusicians
[13:00] <ectospasm> jet: don't ask to ask, just ask
[13:00] <XVampireX> damn
[13:00] <Younder> London90, ntfs doesn't fragment much, it's a FAT thing
[13:00] <eise> London90, its already checked
[13:00] <jet> i just install ununtu 9
[13:00] <London90> Younder: hence the name :-D
[13:00] <iceroot> tigertiger: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[13:00] <jet> when i go to teminal  and type  su
[13:00] <eise> I got Ubuntu 9.10 if thats information you might need
[13:00] <sfv> what does pkg{u} mean?
[13:00] <iceroot> tigertiger: without your whitespaces
[13:00] <London90> eise: the to run it just open a terminal then type "./gridwars" without the quotes and it should work
[13:00] <epinky> tigertiger: "ubuntu-restricted-extras" without spaces
[13:00] <Valentina> I'm going to add one more hard drive to my machine. Shall I connect it and then just boot again and afterwards format the newlt inserted hard drive or shall I boot into a Live Cd and then format the new hard drive?
[13:00] <Valentina> *newly
[13:01] <aparide> if epiphany...
[13:01] <iceroot> !sudo | jet
[13:01] <jet> it asks for password but every time i put  my password in it says  fialed wrong password
[13:01] <Blank__> Lint, ext3 is fundamentally different to NTFS or FAT
[13:01] <London90> Vatlentina: just booting again should be fine. Ubuntu should pick it up and let you format it.
[13:01] <tigertiger> system tells me that :  can not find the packages: ubuntu-restricted-extras
[13:01] <iceroot> jet: because su wants the root-password, but there is no root-password/account, so use sudo
[13:01] <ectospasm> jet: when you use su you need to enter root's password, not yours
[13:01] <Ioneye> After running a /.configure file at the end i get this error: "logging.cc:65: error: ‘snprintf’ was not declared in this scope" what am i supposed to do?
[13:01] <Younder> London90, seriously you can loose 30 % on a large disk by using FAT
[13:01] <tigertiger> i want to paly mp3 file
[13:01] <ectospasm> jet: the root password usually isn't set by default on ubuntu
[13:01] <sipior> Lint: ext filesystems generally only have fragmentation issues at very high utilisation levels.
[13:02] <Lint> I have a 400kb file which occupies 9(!) extents, you call that 'desn't fragment'? stop telling nonsense and tell me how to defragment it
[13:02] <tigertiger> iceroot can you help me again?
[13:02] <epinky> tigertiger: "ubuntu-restricted-areas"
[13:02] <London90> Younder: I hate that its really the only option with a memory pen when going between windows and *nix :-(
[13:02] <iceroot> epinky: extras
[13:02] <eise> London90: i get: ./gridwars: error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++.so.5: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[13:02] <friendishan> !BRB | KAMIKAZZI
[13:03] <Younder> London90, ubuntu reads ntfs too
[13:03] <Ioneye> After running a /.configure file at the end i get this error: "logging.cc:65: error: ‘snprintf’ was not declared in this scope" what am i supposed to do?
[13:03] <BluesKaj> Hey all
[13:03] <friendishan> !lol | kamikazzi
[13:03] <iceroot> friendishan: stop that please
[13:03] <miked595> has anyone successfully gotten ubuntu to hibernate properly?
[13:03] <noobuntu> I made it
[13:03] <iceroot> miked595: yes, depending on the hardware
[13:03] <noobuntu> woot woot
[13:03] <jet> cheers  m8 that worked :)
[13:03] <friendishan> my totem movie player closes as soon as it starts
[13:03] <noobuntu> help
[13:04] <miked595> iceroot: acer aspire one
[13:04] <legend2440> tigertiger: open  system>administration>software sources  and make sure   multiverse repo has check mark next to it  it will be  the 4th one down
[13:04] <noobuntu> I require some assitance
[13:04] <ville__> Hi! Kubuntu crashed while upgrading to 9.10. After that I got "One or more of the mounts listed in /etc/fstab cannot yet be mounted". Never got over that, so I used recovery console to remount sda3 with rw access and finished upgrade. Now I think my Python2.6 is broken. Trying to (re)install (almost) anything gives "'import site' failed..." (including 'apptitude install -f'). How can I fix this?
[13:04] <friendishan> epinky
[13:04] <friendishan> my totem movie player closes as soon as it starts
[13:04] <London90> Younder: would there be any reason not to use ntfs for flash pen??
[13:04] <brad__> ssh won't work wither...can't connect to any ips
[13:04] <napster> noobuntu: Ask
[13:04] <friendishan> !patience | friendishan
[13:04] <sp4z> has anyone successfully connected to a windows share on another pc from ubuntu 9.10?
[13:04] <noobuntu> I'm running a new ubuntu installation on my sun virtual box
[13:05] <London90> eise: then you probably don't have that library installed. So you need to find it in synaptic. Can you do that?
[13:05] <Younder> London90, compatabillity with windows 95-98
[13:05] <London90> sp4z: yup, having problems?
[13:05] <noobuntu> after adding an additional slave hdd partion to my ubuntu virtual box, I cant seem to mount or find that newly add hd
[13:05] <noobuntu> ?
[13:05] <Lint> what can I use to defragment ext3 filesystem? or a one certain file only? re-creating
[13:05] <Younder> London90, nothing you should worry about
 I have a 400kb file which occupies 9(!) extents
[13:05] <tigertiger> i have no software sources option
[13:06] <BluesKaj> !defrag | Lint
[13:06] <miked595> Lint: fschk
[13:06] <iceroot> Lint: ext3 has no fragmentation
[13:06] <Blank__> Lint, how do you know what size those "extents" are
[13:06] <noobuntu> erm ... :(
[13:06] <eise> @London90, yhe working on it :) heheh tnx
[13:06] <London90> Younder: well that shouldn't really be a problem. I'll change it ntfs. I remeber looks into ages ago and there was some reason not to (possibly ntfs support in linux) oh well
[13:06] <napster> Lint: ext3 allows no fragmentation like ntfs or fat
[13:06] <brad__> everytime i try to connect with putty it says connection timed out
[13:06] <sp4z> london90, no not yet :D
[13:06] <friendishan> my totem movie player closes as soon as it starts
[13:06] <sipior> iceroot: napster: that's patently false.
[13:06] <syn-ack> napster, Not true
[13:06] <Lint> Blank__, filefrag
[13:06] <London90> sp4z: are you connecting to a xp machine or vista/ windows 7>
[13:06] <bassliner> anyone an idea why the font antialiasing in firefox 3.5 in ubuntu 9.10 just looks so goddamn bad, almost causing eye cancer or something?
[13:06] <friendishan> my totem movie player closes as soon as it starts
[13:06] <noobuntu> anyone?
[13:06] <napster> sipior: can you explain
[13:07] <iceroot> sipior: no, its correct
[13:07] <napster> syn-ack: ..?
[13:07] <sp4z> london90, does that matter?
[13:07] <syn-ack> iceberg, that is false.
[13:07] <Lint> the unfragmenting filesystem in NP-full problem
[13:07] <sipior> napster: iceroot: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ext3. Read.
[13:07] <BluesKaj> London90, ntfs is seen in linux , read-write capable , if that's what you mean by support
[13:07] <London90> sp4z: yea, sometimes vista has trouble because is only accepts one kind of authenication that linux doesn't support
[13:07] <friendishan> my totem movie player closes as soon as it starts
[13:07] <friendishan> my totem movie player closes as soon as it starts
[13:07] <syn-ack> It does fragment. Just not in same way as NTFS
[13:08] <acr0nym> omg, I finally have no excuse anymore to boot up windows
[13:08] <noobuntu> guys how do I get my ubuntu to see a secondary partion?
[13:08] <s0162195> hi, anyone ever installed ubuntu on a sun server?
[13:08] <napster> sipior: ty m8 :)
[13:08] <friendishan> everyone my totem movie player closes as soon as it starts
[13:08] <miked595> doesn't an fschk make the filesystem contiguous as well as check for errors?
[13:08] <London90> friendishan: we heard you the first time, it doesn't seem like any has any ideas.
[13:08] <Lint> all filesystems fragments in exactly same way
[13:08] <acr0nym> I got photoshop cs4 working great it even works better than in windows
[13:08] <friendishan> ok
[13:08] <acr0nym> still can't believe it
[13:08] <syn-ack> sipior, Good call, btw
[13:08] <BluesKaj> !patience | friendishan
[13:08] <acr0nym> and this is on an eeepc connected to a vga @ 1280x1024
[13:08] <Lint> acr0nym, all hail Adobe
[13:08] <London90> BluesKaj: it was, thanks.
[13:08] <acr0nym> can't believe it runs better than on windows
[13:08] <Pici> !offtopic
[13:08] <acr0nym> Lint not sure if it is adobe that helped...
[13:08] <acr0nym> I am running it through wine
[13:09] <epinky> friendishan: try with VLC player
[13:09] <London90> Lint: I think you'll find that some are a lot more tidy and don't require as much nannying
[13:09] <tigertiger> someboy tell me that input :   sudo apt -get install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[13:09] <friendishan> epinky : the same with it.
[13:09] <acr0nym> it is actually the portable version of photoshop cs4.. didn't even have to install
[13:09] <noobuntu> ag
[13:09] <tigertiger> can install packages to play mp3
[13:09] <noobuntu> this is no fun
[13:09] <tigertiger> but i can not
[13:09] <w1redo> ive just downloaded the new adobe flash player but it saying it cant find a archive for please could someone help me thanks
[13:09] <acr0nym> the whole process took me less than 10 minutes, including installing wine
[13:09] <friendishan> epinky : it's a problem i have been facing for a long period of time.
[13:10] <tigertiger> crying
[13:10] <syn-ack> acr0nym, Pici posted that !offtopic to you, you know.
[13:10] <eise> London90: I already got libstdc++6, isn't it backwards compatible?
[13:10] <epinky> tigertiger: "apt-get" no spaces
[13:10] <Gadget3000> w1redo: which broswer are you using?
[13:10] <Lint> London90, show me NTFS filesystem which have 400kb file fragmented in 9 pieces
[13:10] <friendishan> epinky : it closes as soon as i view it.
[13:10] <w1redo> firefox
[13:10] <sp4z> london90, ok, is there another way to connect to c$ for example from a linux machine?
[13:10] <friendishan> epinky : it work well if minimized and we can hear the sound,
[13:10] <Gadget3000> in terminal, try|
[13:10] <BluesKaj> Lint, after 30 or so boots , linux does an auto disk check anyway
[13:10] <tigertiger> system tell me that  there is no ubuntu-restricted-extras
[13:10] <miked595> Lint, sipior, iceroot: doesn't ubuntu automatically run an fsck after 30 reboots?
[13:10] <friendishan> epinky : this time it hanged up.
[13:11] <tigertiger> packages
[13:11] <London90> Lint: I was speaking generally. You may, of course, be having a specific issue that is an exception to the rule.
[13:11] <Gadget3000> w1redo: sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[13:11] <indus> London90: install the gstreamer ffmpeg file
[13:11] <Lint> BluesKaj, how disk checkis gonna help with fragmentation?
[13:11] <syn-ack> BluesKaj, It's been upped to about 67 boots now.
[13:11] <sipior> miked595: fsck does nothing to alleviate fiel fragmentation
[13:11] <London90> indus: what for?
[13:11] <indus> oops bad timing
[13:11] <w1redo> thanks
[13:11] <indus> London90: you were looking for some codecs?
[13:11] <kane77> are the fixes that were done as part of "100 paper cuts" project integrated into karmic?
[13:11] <miked595> sipior: well if it doesn't fragment ;)
[13:11] <goldie> anyone ever had the text-based ubuntu installer show mangled text? If yes, how the * did you fix it ? :)
[13:11] <London90> indus: I wasn't but thanks anyway :p
[13:11] <indus> what is 100 paper cuts
[13:11] <syn-ack> kane77, where it could be...
[13:12] <indus> London90: :P
[13:12]  * sipior sighs
[13:12] <BluesKaj> Lint, it realigns the data blocks there is any fragemnentation
[13:12] <London90> sp4z: you could install ssh, or setup an ftp server or something like that
[13:12] <Madpilot> kane77, most of them, I think
[13:12] <BluesKaj> if
[13:12] <Valentina> London90: Ok, thanks, I'll try to connect it and reboot.
[13:12]  * indus asks why the *sigh*
[13:12] <Younder> sp4z, I use Mono and ModoDevelop as a iDE. Is that what you mean? (It tends to hang a version behind .NET)
[13:12] <dashavoo> I am struggling to connect to my wpa2 network from my desktop computer (just upgraded to Karmic), however it works fine from my karmic laptop (which has been running karmic since alpha3), does anybody have any suggestions as to what is wrong?
[13:12] <kane77> Madpilot, cool I really like that someone is fixing the little annoying things
[13:12] <Lint> BluesKaj, so how can I force fsck?
[13:12] <syn-ack> Lint, man mount man fsck
[13:13] <epinky> tigertiger: could you post results?
[13:13] <legend2440> tigertiger: open  system>administration>synaptic  and look for  ubuntu-restricted-extras   in there
[13:13] <Younder> syn-ack, lint went out with ANSI C, grow up
[13:13] <Tatzelbrumm> dashavoo: GNOME or KDE?
[13:13] <kane77> indus, it is project to erradicate 100 most annoying things (usability problems) in ubuntu
[13:13] <dashavoo> Tatzelbrumm: Gnome
[13:13] <gcola> I'm looking for a different behavior for alt-tab and/or windowskey-tab.  A simple list that not only lets me cycle through, but that I can click on a specific window with the mouse instead of cycling all the way around.
[13:13] <epinky> tigertiger: yep, use synaptic, it's better
[13:13] <w1redo> gadget3000 ive just tryed that and its sayin same thing to me it cant find the archive
[13:13] <syn-ack> Younder, was that supposed to be a joke?
[13:13] <indus> kane77: aah ok cool, i couldnt understand what it meant,i thought all silly issues which would never be fixed
[13:13] <Tatzelbrumm> dashavoo: in that case, my laptop doesn't reproduce your error. It had difficulties under KDE but not GNOME.
[13:14] <sp4z> london90, younder, well from windoze pc to win pc you would just type in the run box i.e \\<IP_ADDRESS>\c$ and then enter user and pass, is that functionality in ubuntu anywhere?
[13:14] <Younder> syn-ack, yes
[13:14] <Lint> syn-ack, fsck warns about corruption if run on mounted filesystem
[13:14] <tigertiger> thank you all the guys
[13:14] <eise> London90: The solution would be: sudo apt-get install libstdc++5, but i can't seem to install version 5
[13:14] <ectospasm> gcola: that's called the task list on the panel
[13:14] <syn-ack> Younder, Sorry, completly lost on me. :(
[13:14] <jrib> gcola: does the Scale plugin in compiz work for you?
[13:14] <ascheel> Anybody know of a way to limit which logins are listed in the gdm login screen?
[13:14] <dashavoo> Tatzelbrumm: my laptop is also fine, which is what is really confusing me.
[13:14] <syn-ack> Lint, which is why I told you to man mount as well
[13:14] <miked595> Lint: you can't be on the filesystem and fsck at the same time
[13:14] <London90> sp4z: yes,  you just click on network in nautilus and navigate to your share
[13:14] <Younder> sp4z: yes
[13:14] <eise> Alsow it doesn't show up in Syn
[13:15] <BluesKaj> Lint, you can cause severe damage if force fsck , the dev must be unmounted afaik
[13:15] <indus> fsck -r is a  good option
[13:15] <indus> fsck -r -v
[13:15] <Younder> sp4z, I still use PyLint..
[13:15] <miked595> you can boot with the live cd and fsck the partition that way
[13:15] <syn-ack> Lint, you also can man shutdown
[13:15] <sp4z> london90, younder, cheers
[13:15] <London90> eise: Then I don't know what to suggest, sorry. It might be worth looking for the support that goes with the game.
[13:15] <eise> support file: find londen90 in #Ubuntu :P
[13:16] <ttestt> hello. can anyone tell me, how to change default WM from gnome to icewm, in remastered boot cd? please.
[13:16] <ascheel> if you want to fsck the drive, just do this prior to a reboot:  sudo touch /forcefsck
[13:16] <Lint> syn-ack, my shutdown has no filesystem check option
[13:16] <syn-ack> Lint, look at what ascheel and indus just told you...
[13:16] <jet> how can i find my ip off  pc in ubuntu 9
[13:16] <London90> eise: teehee
[13:16] <miked595> nice shutdown -F
[13:16] <angelus> gcola y Ctrl+shift+up, that might be what you are looking for (and then go and change the key binding at System»Preferences»Keyboard Shortcuts »» Initiate window Picker)
[13:17] <Tatzelbrumm> dashavoo: not really confusing ... I suspect that these errors are caused by communication difficulties between one of the excessively many abstraction layers ... it just doesn't support your particular wireless hardware. but that's just my uneducated guess.
[13:17] <London90> jet: click on the network icon in the top right corner and then connection info
[13:17] <Younder> jet?
[13:17] <miked595> love man pages
[13:17] <jet> i need to know the ip of my sever for vnc
[13:17] <Sky3RN> ifconfig
[13:17] <Sky3RN> In a terminal.
[13:17] <miked595> external ip?
[13:18] <Younder> jet: are you using a web provider?
[13:18] <syn-ack> miked595, yeah, they're really handy when you actually read them... unlike some people.
[13:18] <jet> i  m8
[13:18] <London90> syn-ack miked595: amen, rtfm
[13:18] <miked595> jet: if you are behind a router using NAT then using an external site to get your public IP might be easist:  http://www.xpertdns.com/myip.php
[13:19] <dumnut> hi, i am partitionaing ubuntu, is boot partition ext3?
[13:19] <syn-ack> dumnut, it can be...
[13:19] <Gadget3000> dumnut: which version of ubuntu
[13:19] <kane77> is it possible somehow to tell dhcp that I want certain IP address? I know it is possible to configure some routers to give certain IP address for certain MAC addres, however it is not possible on mine
[13:19] <London90> mcnuggz: what are you trying to do with nautilus that requires root?
[13:19] <dumnut> hi syn-ack hi Gadget3000, 9.04
[13:19] <Gadget3000> dumnut: I would still reccommend gparted for linux partitions though
[13:19] <ascheel> kane77: you must reserve DHCP IP addresses on the server dishing them out
[13:19] <Gadget3000> dumnut: probably ext3 then
[13:19] <Younder> jet. if so ifcongig (an command line program) will do it.
[13:20] <jagjr> are there any good macro recorders for ubuntu?
[13:20] <London90> kane77: or you could change the ip settings on the client to static. Though if that address is already taken you could have problems
[13:20] <tigertiger> This usually means that another package management application (like apt-get or aptitude) already running. Please close that application first.
[13:20] <tigertiger> why?
[13:21] <tigertiger> Unable to get exclusive lock
[13:21] <friendishan> epinky : u der?
[13:21] <jagjr> are there any good macro recorders for ubuntu?
[13:21] <miked595> syn-ack: London90: No manual entry for hibernate  :(
[13:21] <tigertiger>  when i want to open  synaptic
[13:21] <tigertiger> there is an error :   Unable to get exclusive lock
[13:21] <tigertiger> why??
[13:21] <Younder> tigertiger, you are root , but not system root
[13:21] <gcola> angelus: Ctrl+shift+up does nothing for me.  I can manage to change the keybindings.  I'm just trying to find the right window picker to bind to.
[13:22] <jet> is there any good programs i can use to  copy files from my pc to my linux server ?
[13:22] <Lint> whoever said that fsck 'realigns data blocks' and combat fragmentation this way is damned liar
[13:22] <tigertiger> i am in the gui interface ,how do i deal with ??
[13:22] <miked595> jet: i like to use scp
[13:22] <gcola> I've recently installed 9.10 w/Gnome.  Previously I was running 8.04 and KDE.  I liked the default window picker for KDE better.
[13:22] <tigertiger> os is ubuntu       GUI
[13:22] <sipior> Lint: yep.
[13:22] <London90> jet: you could user teracopy on your windows machine to copy them over. Or just use the inbuilt system copier
[13:22] <jagjr> are there any good macro recorders for ubuntu?
[13:23] <BluesKaj> Lint, http://blogs.pcworld.co.nz/pcworld/tux-love/2009/11/hidden_linux_what_the_fsck.html
[13:23] <dashavoo> Actually, it seems my computer won't authenticate to any wireless network, not just a WPA2 one. It does see all the networks I expect it to, just won't connect.
[13:23] <Gadget3000> gcola: use kubuntu instead. it has DKE built in so is more stable than putting it into ubuntu
[13:23] <London90> tigertiger: you might have a program using apt running or crashed. You could try restarting the computer. If that doesn't fix it then i'd go with Youder's suggestion
[13:23] <tigertiger> I am   root ,,  but not system root ....how can do now ?
[13:24] <fasta> How do I enable hiberation on Ubuntu in karmic if it has already been installed?
[13:24] <angelus> gcola huh .... well its the "Initiate windows Picker" on Keyboard shortcuts menu..... change keybinding to something viable and check it out ....
[13:24] <Gadget3000> gcola: *KDE
[13:24] <London90> dashavoo: are you sure you're wireless adapter supports wpa2
[13:24] <gcola> Gadget3000: Thanks, but not sure I want to switch to KDE just for the window picker, but I'll think, about it.
[13:24] <tigertiger> i    restart my computer just now
[13:24] <jagjr> are there any good macro recorders for ubuntu?
[13:24] <Dr_Willis> jagjr:  ive seen some in the repos for some tasks.
[13:25] <miked595> fasta: you can click you user in the upper right hand corner to and select hibernate to test it out. I'm having the problem of it actually working
[13:25] <sipior> BluesKaj: fsck fixes filesystem errors. fragmentation is not an error, per se, but a result of the block allocation algorithm. it simply won't fix filesystem fragmentation.
[13:25] <syn-ack> fasta, Hibernation is installed by default. All should need to do is click on hibernate in your shutdown menu
[13:25] <jagjr> Dr_willies : i need some that click in more than one place
[13:25] <fasta> syn-ack, it doesn't work if your swap is not large enough.
[13:25] <jagjr> Dr_willis : i need some that click in more than one place
[13:25] <Younder> tigertiger, type from the command line 'sudo passwd root'
[13:25] <Gadget3000> fasta: It should be enabled by default but you may need to change some bios settings to get it to work properly
[13:25] <kane77> London90, do you know of any utility that would for instance translate the MAC address to actual IP of that computer?
[13:25] <fasta> syn-ack, see the release notes. That's what I meant by "enable".
[13:25] <friendishan> .
[13:25] <dumnut> i chose partition ex3, but it says no root system chosen?
[13:25] <fasta> Gadget3000, BIOS is irrelevant in my case.
[13:25] <miked595> fasta: sipior: my swap is 4gb and it still doesn't work
[13:25] <syn-ack> fasta, you need to be a bit more clear then
[13:26] <Younder> tigertiger, enter accont password and figure out a system password
[13:26] <batang_g> I have aproblem with Ubuntu 9.10-Desktop i386.  When im installing packages like g++ and hardware drivers, it always says "Please insert  cd Ubuntu 9.10.." or something like that.  But when i insert the installation cd, it says the same thing.  Can someone make this work?
[13:26] <dashavoo> London90: yes, I was using it on jaunty since July up until this morning
[13:26] <London90> kane77: nope i'm not sure that's possible, mac isn't linked to ip address in the same way as dns name
[13:26] <syn-ack> fasta, you're gonna have to repartition some more swap space on to the drive... which filesystem are you running?
[13:26] <BluesKaj> sipior, ok tell Lint , he seems to think he needs to defrag ..maybe you can tell him how to defrag or not
[13:26] <indus> i want some easy questions
[13:26] <indus> anyone?
[13:26] <syn-ack> fasta, And, btw I know what the release notes say
[13:26] <jrib> Younder: erm, please don't recommend setting a root passowrd here, especially when there's no reason to do so
[13:27] <Younder> tigertiger, then do the 'su'
[13:27] <fasta> syn-ack, ok, so when I say "hibernate", I get this black screen (console) with some exception and then the system exits. On reboot, the BIOS says "resuming", but Ubuntu just boots instead of resuming.
[13:27] <friendishan> !VLC
[13:27] <sipior> Lint: the important question for you is not whether you have fragmented files (that's unavoidable), but whether there is an concomitant impact on system performance. i'm don't imagine there is.
[13:27] <jrib> !noroot > Younder
[13:27] <indus> !botabuse
[13:27] <fasta> syn-ack, I use ext3.
[13:27] <ebtek220> i lost the wicd icon in my tray. it is marked on my startup to work but doesn't show up.  is there a way to get it back using the terminal?
[13:27] <syn-ack> fasta, standby
[13:27] <fasta> syn-ack, ok, I don't know what everyone knows.
[13:27] <sipior> Lint: and please forgive my poor grammar. fingers don't want to work properly today...
[13:27] <jrib> ebtek220: wicd-client  iirc
[13:27] <friendishan> !noroot
[13:28] <syn-ack> fasta, http://www.howtoforge.com/linux_resizing_ext3_partitions
[13:28] <Younder> jrib, hard not to when I had to reinstall my old system because I didn't have one
[13:28] <angelus> fasta have you installed Linux before ??
[13:28] <friendishan> epinky : u there?
[13:28] <anon_> I have 4 GB on my system, but the Gnome system monitor only shows 2.9 GB. How do I let Ubuntu to use the full 4 GB?
[13:28] <jrib> Younder: do you want to know how you could have avoided a reinstall?
[13:28] <mrXX> guys, is it possible to make one of the sites in my apache virtual host to be a www site?
[13:28] <syn-ack> fasta, once you resize one of those ext3 parts down some, enlarge your swap part
[13:28] <fasta> angelus, what kind of question is that?
[13:28] <ActionParsnip> anon_: install the 64bit version, or install the server kernel which has PAE enabled
[13:28] <jrib> mrXX: sure, why not
[13:28] <syn-ack> fasta, before you do that, read man swapon
[13:28] <fasta> syn-ack, by how much exactly?
[13:29] <ActionParsnip> anon_: 32bit OSs can only access that much RAM
[13:29] <angelus> well ... my next piece of advice is completely useless if you have instlled it before ....
[13:29] <fasta> syn-ack, I have 4GB RAM.
[13:29] <ebtek220> still didn't show up in the tra
[13:29] <indus> fasta: i think he just wants to know if its your first time, no offence
[13:29] <ebtek220> y
[13:29] <anon_> ActionParsnip, well I have the 32 bit Ubuntu, so you might be right :)
[13:29] <syn-ack> fasta, you want your swap to be equal to or twice as much as the RAM on the machine
[13:29] <mrXX> jrib how to you do it?  I have already got a free dns , but i try logging to my site through proxy but it doesn't work
[13:29] <rlo> Trying to install app-cacher on a server. Catch is that the workstations are running Jaunty while the server's running hardy. Is this safe, or are there any hidden "gotchas" here? Thanks in advance...
[13:29] <fasta> syn-ack, I just want to know the minimum value that is guaranteed to work.
[13:29] <indus> fasta: keep swap at 1 gb ,its more than enough, dont waste hdd space
[13:29] <syn-ack> I just told you
[13:29] <ActionParsnip> anon_: if you install the server kernel and boot to it, you should get more ram accessible
[13:29] <Younder> jrib, too late..
[13:29] <indus> fasta: 512 mb works great
[13:29] <syn-ack> indonesia, it may not be
[13:30] <Captain_Haddock> !samba
[13:30] <Younder> jrib, It was done weeks ago
[13:30] <ActionParsnip> anon_: or a more futureproof solution is to install 64bit Ubuntu to allow you to add more ram
[13:30] <syn-ack> fasta, you're kinda leading him down the wrong path here...
[13:30] <IpSe_DiXiT> hi how do i access "system > administration" if it's not in my panel? thanks
[13:30] <jrib> Younder: k, but please keep in mind that setting a root password is unnecessary when helping others here
[13:30] <legend2440> anon_: http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/ubuntu-linux-4gb-ram-limitation-solution/
[13:30] <indus> IpSe_DiXiT: hmm
[13:30] <anon_> ActionParsnip, but will 32 bit programs work on the 64 bit system?
[13:30] <indonesia> syn-ack : what?
[13:30] <jrib> IpSe_DiXiT: add it to your panel?
[13:30] <indus> IpSe_DiXiT: right click on edit menu
[13:30] <ActionParsnip> anon_: they can if you install ia32-libs
[13:30] <syn-ack> indus, that was to, not you indonesia
[13:31] <syn-ack> sorry
[13:31] <indonesia> syn-ack : kk
[13:31] <ActionParsnip> anon_: the apps you use will have 64bit versions on the repos
[13:31] <fasta> syn-ack, the thing is, I never need 4GB RAM in a normal session.
[13:31] <jrib> mrXX: buy a domain, point your domain to your ip, that's it
[13:31] <indus> syn-ack: which wrong path, i prefer calling it the path not much taken :)
[13:31] <mrXX> jrib i have a dns (from dyndns) pointed to my ip,
[13:31] <syn-ack> fasta, then make your swap 4 gigs
[13:31] <kartook> any one tell me whic is the right channel to join for Dekstop ubuntu help
[13:31] <IpSe_DiXiT> jrib: there's no way to add, it's a custom version, is it possible it's no where else? the panel's just a link, it has to be accessible from somewhere else...
[13:31] <tigertiger> i open the synaptic Package Manager,,how can setup the option to play the mp3 files
[13:31] <syn-ack> indus, thats wrong information.
[13:31] <Pici> kartook: This is it.
[13:31] <indus> syn-ack: what is?
[13:31] <tigertiger> thank you in advance
[13:31] <London90> kartook: you're in it
[13:31] <fasta> syn-ack, Ok, I was under the impression it didn't work if you had less than the size of your RAM.
[13:31] <kartook> thanks
[13:32] <Younder> jrib, yes, the windows look alike..
[13:32] <fasta> syn-ack, if that's a false impression then I know enough.
[13:32] <ebtek220> jrib: an other ideas on how to get wicd back in the tray
[13:32] <kartook> i need to create a menus on my mouse rught clicks
[13:32] <jrib> IpSe_DiXiT: it's not just a link.  The menu is formed from .desktop files.  You can certainly run all of the programs listed there using the terminal if you want
[13:32] <kartook> like Knoppix
[13:32] <syn-ack> fasta, youre generally right too, indus was trying to give you bad info
[13:32] <legend2440> tigertiger: in synaptic look for  ubuntu-restricted-extras  and install it
[13:32] <kartook> how can
[13:32] <mrXX> jrib i think i have to configure my apache for that, but i dont know, I do have a dns pointing to my ip
[13:32] <hirschi1974> Hallo
[13:32] <Madpilot> fasta, /swap isn't even mandatory; I didn't bother for a while...
[13:32] <miked595> so I get this when trying to hibernate from command line: Warning: Tuxonice binary signature file not found
[13:32] <IpSe_DiXiT> jrib: ok i need to run "language selector" im also searching it in synaptic but with no luck
[13:32] <indus> syn-ack: can you explain why you keep saying my name and not mentioning which info is wrong??
[13:32] <jrib> mrXX: do you have a router or firewal between your machine and the internet?
[13:33] <syn-ack> Madpilot, for hibernation it is manditory
[13:33] <wagner> find
[13:33] <jrib> IpSe_DiXiT: no idea, but try: gnome-lang<TAB><TAB>
[13:33] <ascheel> Anybody know of a way to limit which logins are listed in the gdm login screen?
[13:33] <Lint> IpSe_DiXiT, gnome-language-selector
[13:33] <mrXX> jrib yes i have a router
[13:33] <syn-ack> indus, your comment to fasta regarding swap space size was completely wrong.
[13:33] <hirschi1974> ich braeucht mal ein wenig Hilfe beim Konfigurieren von X11 und einer radeon mobility 7500 unter karmic koala 9.10
[13:33] <wagner> hi
[13:33] <jrib> mrXX: you need to forward port 80 to your machine
[13:33] <Madpilot> syn-ack, true, but hibernation of desktops isn't that common
[13:34] <miked595> indus: I believe the hibernate process dumps the ram to the swap partition so you need a swap at least the size of your ram for it to fit
[13:34] <fasta> Madpilot, what makes you think this is a desktop?\
[13:34] <syn-ack> Madpilot, but he WANTS to hibernate.
[13:34] <indus> syn-ack: no it inst, you arent wrong if you quote whats generally quoted
[13:34] <tigertiger> in my system there is no ubuntu-restricted-extras ,,how can i do then
[13:34] <tigertiger> ??
[13:34] <fasta> Madpilot, It isn't.
[13:34] <IpSe_DiXiT> Lint: nice clue, it's not installed, ill install it then :D thanks
[13:34] <ActionParsnip> tigertiger: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[13:34] <Madpilot> syn-ack, fasta - fair enough. Missed that part of the discussion earlier, sorry.
[13:34] <syn-ack> indus, and what's GENERALLY quoted is equal to or twice as much
[13:34] <mrXX> jrib do i need to have access to the router to do that? cause i use the internet of the university in my dorm, it is not mine personal
[13:34] <kartook> how can i make a menus on mouse right click ???
[13:34] <jrib> mrXX: yes
[13:34] <syn-ack> indus, so your info is wrong.
[13:34] <indus> syn-ack: 1 gb is more than enough for almost all things including hibernate, the often used commenet of twice the ram is too old now
[13:35] <mrXX> jrib damn, so there is no way around?
[13:35] <Xcell> kartook-  install nautilus-actions
[13:35] <jrib> mrXX: does your computer get its own ip to the outside world?
[13:35] <IpSe_DiXiT> Lint: but it's a gnome pack, and im running lxde... that might be a prob
[13:35] <kartook> ohh cool
[13:35] <syn-ack> indus, it's been like that since the beginning of time, according to linus
[13:35] <indus> syn-ack: so lets not get into whats right or whats wrong, lets see what works
[13:35] <legend2440> tigertiger: in synaptic on top open   Settings>Repositories   and see if there is check mark next ot  the  (multiverse) repository
[13:35] <kartook> can i get offline installation pack for GNOME
[13:35] <wagner> seach
[13:35] <Madpilot> tigertiger, close Synaptic, open Software Sources (System->Admin->Software Sources) and make sure Universe and Multiverse are checked off
[13:35] <indus> syn-ack: bad argument
[13:35] <kartook> i have kubuntu in my home
[13:35] <fasta> Since everyone is arguing here, is there a document which just states how it actually is? I.e. some kind of authority?
[13:35] <mrXX> jrib i believe so, i have an ip of format 80.10....
[13:35] <jrib> mrXX: i.e. is <IP_ADDRESS> your ip or the router's?
[13:35] <indus> syn-ack: time has changed now,
[13:35] <kartook> no insterneti need to install DNOME how can i install ?
[13:35] <mrXX> jjrib no
[13:35] <mrXX> jrib
[13:36] <miked595> fasta: you using the wubi install?
[13:36] <mrXX> jrib no, it is like <IP_ADDRESS>
[13:36] <jarod51> my computer janitor hangs, what can i do ?
[13:36] <ActionParsnip> fasta: about what?
[13:36] <fasta> miked595, no.
[13:36] <syn-ack> indus, if you like, I can show in the ubuntu documentation where it recommends it. so don't tell someone that they need less than the rule of thumb
[13:36] <acr0nym> hi I'm on 9.10 right now but there doesn't seem to be a xorg.conf in /etc/X11/
[13:36] <acr0nym> any ideas?
[13:36] <ActionParsnip> jarod51: reinstall it
[13:36] <jrib> mrXX: well right now I see your ip as <IP_ADDRESS> so...
[13:36] <indus> syn-ack: you telling me if i have 4 gb ram , i use a swap of 8 gb? what a waste
[13:36] <hirschi1974> wo kann ich den jetzt angeben welche grafikkarte ich besitze bzw. welche treiber mit welchen optionen ich fahren moechte?
[13:36] <jarod51> ActionParsnip: allready done
[13:36] <dashavoo> dmesg tells me wlan0: direct probe to AP 00:24:b2:74:fb:9e try 1,2,3, then timed out
[13:36] <fasta> ActionParsnip, about the size of swap for hibernate to work always.
[13:36] <john-saint> hi all. does anyone know where i can get ubuntu screen savers from cus half of the ones on 9-10 are not on there!
[13:36] <jarod51> ActionParsnip: reinstall from start
[13:36] <ActionParsnip> acr0nym: this is normal, if you add one it will be read, ubuntu relys on hal now (very nnoying)
[13:36] <hirschi1974> xorg.conf ist nicht mehr vorhanden?!
[13:36] <Madpilot> ubottu, de |  hirschi1974
[13:36] <indus> syn-ack: i know what the doc says, its time for it to be revised anyway
[13:36] <fasta> ActionParsnip, E.g. if I use a 2GB swap for 4GB RAM, but only use about 1.5GB RAM will it still work?
[13:37] <mrXX> jrib so what does it mean? cuase that ip you saw doesn't open my local host, but the other ip does
[13:37] <resno> i started something in screen, how do i go back and close it?
[13:37] <acr0nym> thanks ActionParsnip
[13:37] <Younder> I recomend all set up the Ubuntu Fire Wall UFW as it is not set up by default
[13:37] <syn-ack> indus, well, there are always swap files too, but for hibernation you NEED to have a physical swap partition
[13:37] <user1> !realplay
[13:37] <user1> !realplayer
[13:37] <meatbun> how to sftp via gnome?
[13:37] <ActionParsnip> fasta: system has <2gb ram, swap = 2xram. system has >2gb ram then use 1xram
[13:37] <bidossessi> meatbun, nautilus?
[13:37] <tigertiger> in my system there is no system-> admin-> software sources ...why?
[13:37] <hirschi1974> oh ok
[13:37] <indus> syn-ack: i think you misread or misquoted me, 1gb ram is good enough for most here, unlesssomeone says otherwise
[13:37] <syn-ack> indus, and to ensure hibernation works correctly, you should follow the information
[13:37] <rudi> rudi125
[13:38] <resno> tigertiger: are you kde or gnome?
[13:38] <ActionParsnip> fasta: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SwapFaq
[13:38] <Lint> tigertiger, how did you get your system and how it's called?
[13:38] <fasta> ActionParsnip, Thanks!
[13:38] <kartook> how can i install the GNOME on my kubuntu ?
[13:38] <meatbun> bidossessi, ya. i mean nautilus. so long... i forgot what it was called
[13:38] <kartook> on offline ?
[13:38] <Messi> juego de boxeo online http://www.kobox.org/kobox-fande-Nourine.html
[13:38] <ActionParsnip> fasta: jeeves knows much
[13:38] <indus> syn-ack: i hibernate fine,and so do 10 machines here with 1 gb ram so whats your point?
[13:38] <Madpilot> tigertiger, you have a System menu? System->Administration->Software Sources?
[13:38] <indus> syn-ack: doc says it so its always corect?
[13:38] <ubuntunewbie2> hi
[13:38] <syn-ack> Thanks, ActionParsnip I was just about to get that
[13:38] <ActionParsnip> kartook: use aptoncd
[13:38] <Valentina> Will this be the correct manner of formatting a new hard drive into ext4 file system: sudo mkfs -t ext4 /dev/sdc1 ?
[13:38] <jrib> mrXX: <bunch of people in dorm> -> router -> internet -> me.  I only see "router", so when I ask router for a web page, it doesn't know I want the web page from you
[13:38] <indus> syn-ack: ill go edit the doc if you wish
[13:38] <BluesKaj> Lint, call me a liar if you want, I really beleived that fsck would do what I said . Technically I was mistaken but I wasn't deliberstely misleading you.  Maybe you should read this :http://lwn.net/Articles/248180/
[13:38] <hirschi1974> cu
[13:38] <ubuntunewbie2> can ubuntu install on an logical partition ?
[13:39] <ActionParsnip> fasta: if you have loads of ram and never exceed it, you do not even need swap
[13:39] <bidossessi> meatbun, the other machines on your network are running sftp? if so, you should see the sftp servers listed in "Network" in nautilus.
[13:39] <miked595> indus: you swap size, when using hibernate, needs to be at least the same or bigger the size of your ram. If you never hibernate and have 4gb of ram you can forgo the swap all together
[13:39] <mrXX> jrib can i pm you
[13:39] <tigertiger> ubuntu linux for human beings :  Version  for your Pc
[13:39] <ActionParsnip> ubuntunewbie2: sure
[13:39] <xt28> ubuntunewbie2: yes.
[13:39] <indus> syn-ack: oops ,nvm too much waste of channel space
[13:39] <syn-ack> indus, listen. I've been running linux since 1998, I think I know what I'm talking about.
[13:39] <jrib> mrXX: please keep the discussion in the channel so everyone can help you
[13:39] <indus> syn-ack: no issues , lets leave it
[13:39] <fasta> ActionParsnip, that's what I don't understand. I do have loads of RAM, but hibernation doesn't work.
[13:39] <ubuntunewbie2> ActionParsnip , xt28 : thanks :-)
[13:39] <meatbun> bidossessi, i found out how
[13:39] <DarwinSurvivor> can the unr interface be dissabled in karmic netbook remix?
[13:39] <ActionParsnip> fasta: not something i use or bother with, not worth it
[13:39] <fasta> ActionParsnip, the only reason I am interested in swap is because I want hibernation.
[13:39] <Madpilot> tigertiger, OK, so do you have a System menu? with an Administration submenu?
[13:39] <indus> miked595: if i had 1 gb of ram, system wont hibernate?
[13:39] <resno> tigertiger: thats hugley generic. do you see a k at the bottom left corner or a menu of things up top?
[13:40] <mrXX> jrib so what does that mean, will i not be able to have a dns?
[13:40] <jrib> mrXX: doesn't seem like it
[13:40] <indus> syn-ack: hasnt linux changed since 1998 to now?
[13:40] <fasta> ActionParsnip, ok, but since I do want to use it I should just get the swap.
[13:40] <syn-ack> fasta, it's not going to work if you dont have enough swap. Thats where the system saves the hiberfile.
[13:40] <xt28> ubuntunewbie2: you're welcome!
[13:40] <miked595> indus: I have 1gb with a 4gb swap and the system won't hibernate.. so my issue is not swap space lol
[13:40] <Dr_Willis> linux has changed radiaclly since 1998 :)
[13:40] <bidossessi> syn-ack, hibernate uses disk, suspend uses ram
[13:40] <indus> miked595: ya hihih mine is an nvidia problem i think
[13:41] <ActionParsnip> fasta: sure
[13:41] <indus> ok bidossessi has some fresh info :)
[13:41] <syn-ack> bidossessi, yeah, and where exactly is the swap partition?
[13:41] <mrXX> jrib try this ip which works for me <IP_ADDRESS>
[13:41] <bidossessi> syn-ack, sorry, not meant for you, typo
[13:41] <olman67> Dr_Willis, agreed, there have been massive updates to linux since the late 90's
[13:41] <indus> suspend to ram is correct
[13:41] <miked595> indus: I get some tuxonice binary sig not found error
[13:41] <London90> exitr
[13:41] <Younder> Dr_Willis, Yes. I ran a redhat 5.0 version back then
[13:41] <indus> miked595: yikes whats that
[13:41] <anon_> I have 4 GB of RAM now, thanks! :)
[13:41] <indus> anon_: you installed 64 bit?
[13:41] <jrib> mrXX: nope
[13:42] <anon_> No, i installed the server kernel.
[13:42] <ActionParsnip> anon_: cool
[13:42] <meatbun> bidossessi, it's over a WAN connection. not my local LAN
[13:42] <syn-ack> Dr_Willis, My point to the young man is that I'm quite experienced.
[13:42] <Younder> Dr_Willis, Now it's fedora and redhat is commmercial distribution
[13:42] <anon_> thnx, ActionParsnip
[13:42] <jrib> mrXX: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IP_address#IPv4_private_addresses
[13:42] <ActionParsnip> anon_: i'd install the 64bit Ubuntu if you want access to any more
[13:42] <anon_> I'll do in the future.
[13:42] <meatbun> bidossessi, though i am curious via ur method
[13:42] <bidossessi> meatbun, then you should be able to use the "connect to server" widget
[13:42] <Lint> tigertiger, can you press Alt+F2 and tell us what happens?
[13:43] <indus> heh iam a young man :)
[13:43] <indus> cool
[13:43] <Younder> ActionParsnip, better have more RAM.. 64 bit usuallly needs 2 Gb these days
[13:43] <tigertiger> Run Application
[13:43] <tigertiger> Dialog
[13:43] <indus> ActionParsnip: hi whats up
[13:43] <tigertiger> apperas
[13:43] <meatbun> bidossessi, u widget or click on 'connect to server' from somewhere?
[13:44] <tigertiger> when i press Alt+F2
[13:44] <fasta> Is there also an easy way to switch from 32 bit Ubuntu to 64 bits?
[13:44] <Lint> type there xterm and press Enter. Then type lsb_release -a and tell us what's written
[13:44] <indus> ActionParsnip: what was that trick of using more swap space or other way round
[13:44] <bidossessi> meatbun, you can add that to the panel by rightclicking on it, i believe
[13:44] <erUSUL> fasta: reinstall
[13:44] <indus> fasta: none
[13:44] <fasta> erUSUL, will that save my /home?
[13:44] <xt28> !enter | tigertiger
[13:44] <Younder> fasta, no, it's a reinstall
[13:44] <indus> fasta: reinstall only
[13:44] <indus> fasta: hmm yes
[13:45] <indus> Younder: if its a separate home , then yes
[13:45] <bidossessi> meatbun, in should give you a list of things you can add to your panel, and "connect to server" should be one of them
[13:45] <erUSUL> fasta: no; you will have to backup it yourself or maybe move it to its own parition that makes things easier
[13:45] <pkkm> how to install a font?
[13:45] <tigertiger> Ok
[13:45] <orlando_>  irc.explosionirc.net
[13:45] <Lint> pkkm, TrueType one?
[13:45] <meatbun> bidossessi, i found. that app is this? it looks like nautilus
[13:45] <indus> erUSUL: hhuh why? during partition i select option dont partition /home
[13:45] <DarwinSurvivor> how do i dissable unr in karmic?
[13:45] <syn-ack> !ops orlando_ advertising
[13:45] <syn-ack> nm
[13:45] <indus> what did i miss
[13:45] <dashavoo> I have resolved my wireless problem by blacklisting two modules, rt2800usb and rt2870sta, I have no idea which of these did the trick, it was a complete shot in the dark. Thought I would mention it incase anyone else comes here with a similar issue.
[13:45] <pkkm> Lint, yes
[13:45] <JohnMcDoe> who
[13:45] <ikonia> syn-ack: what's up ?
[13:46] <ikonia> syn-ack: I see, never mind
[13:46] <syn-ack> ikonia, he left as I hit enter. Sorry about that
[13:46] <Younder> indus, ? You remove the 32 bit version and reinstall or you add a 64 bit version.
[13:46] <ikonia> syn-ack: not a problem
[13:46] <tigertiger> Madpilot :  i have a system menu , and with an Administration submenu ...
[13:46] <Lint> pkkm, drop it in /usr/share/fonts/truetype . It should work immediately
[13:46] <indus> i reinstall a 64 bit version over my older 32 bit install but i had a separate home partition, its fine and untouched
[13:46] <AmokPaule> Hello, in which file is the rootpassword stored?
[13:46] <miked595> so no one ever got hibernate to actually work?
[13:47] <erUSUL> AmokPaule: ubuntu has no root password
[13:47] <legend2440> tigertiger: right click  the word  Applications on top panel and choose Edit Menus  brows to Administration. is  Software Sources there? if so put check mark next to it
[13:47] <indus> during partition just give the K parameter
[13:47] <Madpilot> tigertiger, OK, good. but no Software Sources item on the Admin submenu?
[13:47] <syn-ack> erUSUL, yes it does. its scrambled
[13:47] <ikonia> AmokPaule: /etc/passwd for the account and /etc/shadow for the account, be aware there is no real root password available though
[13:47] <syn-ack> erUSUL, and its not meant to be changed
[13:47] <Madpilot> ubottu, root | AmokPaule
[13:47] <indus> AmokPaule: /etc/passwd
[13:47] <xt28> syn-ack: no.
[13:47] <erUSUL> syn-ack: i know all that been using linux since 1998 too ;P is the short answer
[13:47] <indus> AmokPaule: /etc/shadow sorry
[13:47] <ikonia> indus: no - that is not the passwd
[13:47] <olvap> any one know a good ruby server?
[13:47] <indus> ikonia: sorry
[13:48] <indus> ikonia: /etc/shadow?
[13:48] <ikonia> olvap: ruby is a scripting language
[13:48] <indus> is correct
[13:48] <ikonia> indus: correct
[13:48] <Younder> AmokPaule, you probably want sudo su,
[13:48] <indus> thanks
[13:48] <indus> was a mistype
[13:48] <erUSUL> !rootshell | AmokPaule
[13:48] <sipior> syn-ack: no, the account is disabled.
[13:48] <Younder> AmokPaule, from the command line
[13:48] <ikonia> Younder: no he doesn't
[13:48] <ikonia> AmokPaule: what are you actually looking to do ?
[13:48] <syn-ack> sipior, wasnt aware they physically disabled the account now. :/
[13:48] <om26er> can any1 tell me plz how will mutter work with nvidia card out of box in the future of gnome. are here any plans for that?
[13:48] <JohnMcDoe> quit
[13:48] <indus> AmokPaule: root user is not recommended and neither adviced here unless your question is something else
[13:49] <Younder> Ikonia ?
[13:49] <PND> Hello everyone. I have a problem with a software, it says SDL_SetVideoMode failed: Couldn't find matching GLX visual, then quit. I have Direct Rendering enabled.
[13:49] <ikonia> om26er: join #gnome on irc.gnome.org for gnome development paths
[13:49] <om26er> ikonia: thanx
[13:49] <tigertiger> Madpilot :  Yes
[13:50] <W4gn3r> \who bluedusk
[13:50] <AmokPaule> Thanks all
[13:51] <Madpilot> tigertiger, strange, it should be there by default. You can change the software sources inside Synaptic still, though.
[13:51] <friendishan> epinky
[13:51] <indus> does call of duty work on ubuntu?
[13:51] <bidossessi> wow did this channel just massively quiet down or what?
[13:51] <legend2440> tigertiger: right click  the word  Applications on top panel and choose Edit Menus  browse to Administration. is  Software Sources there? if so put check mark next to it
[13:51] <ikonia> indus: ask the wind guys
[13:51] <ikonia> wine
[13:51] <tigertiger> Madpilot :  i am newer for Ubuntu ,  i install it today ,never use it before
[13:51] <indus> ikonia: :)
[13:51] <bazhang> indus, check the appdb
[13:52] <olvap> ikonia: so? ok, i need a web server to run and application, i need a good server
[13:52] <PND> bidossessi, it seems so.
[13:52] <ikonia> olvap: apache is the standard
[13:52] <erUSUL> !appdb > indus
[13:52] <indus> erUSUL: thanks
[13:52] <Madpilot> tigertiger, no problem. Let me start Synaptic here so I can give you better directions.
[13:52] <tigertiger> Legend:  what is Word application
[13:52] <indus> erUSUL: i have checked it, but hmm
[13:52] <Valentina> I try to umount a hard drive so that I can format it, but I get this strange error: /home: device is busy.
[13:52] <pkkm> Lint, thanks
[13:52] <bidossessi> openoffice writer
[13:53] <bidossessi> tigertiger, openoffice writer
[13:53] <indus> Valentina: can you unmount the location then where you mounted it
[13:53] <erUSUL> Valentina: if the filesystem you try to umount is in use you ca not umunt it.
[13:53] <indus> Valentina: sudo umount /location/wherever
[13:53] <legend2440> tigertiger: on top panel see where it says   Apllications?  right click that and choose  Edit Menus
[13:53] <Valentina> I have a /dev/sdc drive that I have created a new partition on using fdisk and w.
[13:53] <legend2440> Applications
[13:53] <erUSUL> Valentina: seems like you are trying to umount your home partition. You can only do that from single user mode (recovery mode)
[13:53] <dorian__> hola
[13:54] <olvap> hosting, i need hosting, any ones knows a good one?
[13:54] <erUSUL> !es | dorian__
[13:54] <bidossessi> Valentina, is the drive mounted by the system or by you (manually)
[13:54] <dashavoo> olvap: I use bytemark and have been happy with them for years
[13:54] <Valentina> erUSUL: Hm, I get confused, I hade sda1 and sdb1 before, then I iserted a new hard drive and booted. Hoe could sdc1 be in use?
[13:54] <olvap> dashavoo: years?
[13:54] <Valentina> bloodw: Not by me.
[13:54] <Valentina> bidossessi: Not by me, that for sure.
[13:55] <Madpilot> tigertiger, in Synaptic, go Settings->Repositories
[13:55] <ikonia> olvap: ask in #ubuntu-offtopic as this is a support channel only
[13:55] <Valentina> bloodw: Sorry, that wanät ment for you.
[13:55] <Valentina> *wasn't
[13:55] <indus> Valentina: check by typing command mount to see where each is mounted
[13:55] <bidossessi> Valentina, try running "mount" int console to see where it's mounted to
[13:55] <erUSUL> Valentina: maybe the new disk changed the order of the disks. sdb is now sdc and viceversa
[13:55] <Newbuntu2> MeVsTheVoices: in particular, post #8 does exactly what I need, I just have no clue how to do it: http://gparted-forum.surf4.info/viewtopic.php?id=13757
[13:55] <erUSUL> Valentina: that's why we use uuid
[13:55] <tigertiger> Madpilot :  I  did it now
[13:55] <Madpilot> tigertiger, make sure all five checkboxes on that first tab are ticked, then let it reload sources
[13:55] <erUSUL> !uuid | Valentina
[13:55] <tigertiger> open a dialog
[13:56] <user1> Is realplayer for linux only for 90 days??
[13:56] <Madpilot> tigertiger, then you should be able to find that mp3 package you were looking for
[13:56] <Lint> what is the best place to report Gnome bugs ib Ubuntu?
[13:56] <Dr_Willis> user1:  thers some free version.. but ive never needed to use reaplayer in liniux  in ages
[13:56] <erUSUL> !bugs | Lint
[13:56] <indus> Lint: launchpad is good,
[13:56] <erUSUL> !info helixplayer
[13:57] <miked595> !hiberbate
[13:57] <miked595> damn
[13:57] <Valentina> Shit, it says /dev/sdb1 as / and /dev/sdc1 as /home. Is the /dev/sdc1 my Home partition?!
[13:57] <indus> Dr_Willis: what is real player used for anyway?
[13:57] <xt28> Valentina: yes.
[13:57] <indus> Valentina: yess
[13:57] <PND> Hello everyone. I have a problem with a software, it says SDL_SetVideoMode failed: Couldn't find matching GLX visual, then quit. I have Direct Rendering enabled.
[13:57] <erUSUL> Valentina: yes it is
[13:57] <indus> Valentina: why do you want to unmount that
[13:57] <miked595> this blows
[13:58] <Dr_Willis> indus:  majer league baseball web site.. and rmv/rmvb video files I guess.. I dont watch baseball.. and I can play the others with vlc/mplayer
[13:58] <konstbac> hallo
[13:58] <indus> Dr_Willis: its a crappy formatreally
[13:58] <deebee> good morning]
[13:58] <Tatzelbrumm> Where would I find documentation how ubuntu [9.10 and 9.04] configure mice/touchpads ?
[13:58] <Valentina> What have I done! I tried to format it! I run sudo fdisk /dev/sdc1 then I deleted using a partiton using d option and then I run it again created a new using n and finnished off by using w.
[13:58] <indus> Dr_Willis: used to be good longtime ago
[13:58] <jrib> !synaptics | Tatzelbrumm
[13:58] <indus> Valentina: oh
[13:58] <jrib> Tatzelbrumm: for mouse pads
[13:58] <deebee> have challenge of putting email in
[13:59] <indus> thats really bad
[13:59] <_marix> anyone happen to know if there is any problems with the ath9k drivers?
[13:59] <Valentina> But I rebooted and it is still there. So nothing happend when I tried to reboot.
[13:59] <mosta> can any 1 help me with sharing
[13:59] <mosta> hi all :)
[13:59] <resno> hey
[13:59] <Valentina> But I didn't hear the computer reboot, so meybe it didn't but I was thrown out of my ssh to the computer.
[13:59] <xt28> Valentina: fdisk doesn't format drives, afaik. it only edits partition tables.
[14:00] <resno> !ask | mosta
[14:00] <Valentina> xt28: Yeah, I ment that. I used sudo fdisk /dev/sdc1 and then (d) option and then (n) option and last of all the (w) option. What have I done?
[14:01] <yareckon> erUSUL, thanks, chroot fixed me after my upgrade explosion
[14:01] <xt28> Valentina: chances are, not much damage.
[14:01] <erUSUL> yareckon: no problem. just make sure to send me some beers ;)
[14:01] <xt28> Valentina: if your new partition matches the old partition in size, nothing much happened,
[14:01] <sobersabre> hi wizards of ubuntu 9.10.
[14:02] <Valentina> xt28: Did I remove the partition table on the sdc drive and created a new one that hopefully is the same or what?
[14:02] <xt28> Valentina: if it is the same, there is no problem.
[14:02] <sobersabre> something's changed in grub version, and I need to change which is the default boot option. what do I read for this ?
[14:02] <theadmin> jrib: It's me again. After playing a bit with symlinks i completely messed stuff up XD... so i decided to go with firefox from repos as you told me.
[14:02] <erUSUL> sobersabre: /etc/default/grub <<<
[14:02] <xt28> Valentina: did you create a new partition (at least) as big as the old one?
[14:02] <jrib> theadmin: good plan :)
[14:02] <erUSUL> !grub2 | sobersabre
[14:02] <Valentina> xt28: Well, I'm afraid something will happend next time I boot my computer?
[14:02] <theadmin> jrib: It works now, thanks a lot.
[14:02] <iceroot> !grub2 | sobersabre
[14:02] <mosta> i wanna some tell me how i can share with samba
[14:02] <Kinshuk> hello everyone.. can i ask for some little troubleshooting help ?
[14:02] <sobersabre> erUSUL: ok... reading.
[14:02] <xt28> Valentina: and did you delete any other partitions?
[14:02] <iceroot> !ask | Kinshuk
[14:03] <tigertiger> Madpilot : sorry to tell you that :  i cannot find yet
[14:03] <Kinshuk> i need help fixing grub 1.5 error 18
[14:03] <bidossessi> !suspend
[14:03] <PND> I have a problem with a software, it says SDL_SetVideoMode failed: Couldn't find matching GLX visual, then quit. I have Direct Rendering enabled. (software name is Gravit)
[14:03] <Valentina> xt28: I used (d) option that shall delete an old partition. So yes.
[14:03] <bidossessi> !s2ram
[14:03] <tigertiger> can you tell me the five checkboxes specific name or label?
[14:04] <user1> I just installed realplayer but a certificate is quite awkward which says it has no warranty after 90 days
[14:04] <bazhang> user1, no need for that; at least under more recent version of ubuntu
[14:05] <xt28> Valentina: here's what i meant: if you deleted exactly one partition, and created a new partition in its space and if this new partition is at least as big as the one you deleted, there shouldn't be a problem.
[14:05] <mosta> so
[14:05] <mosta> guyz ... any 1 can help a beginner user
[14:05] <xt28> Valentina: if you deleted several partitions before creating a new one, this might be different.
[14:05] <legend2440> tigertiger: (main) (universe) (restricted)  (multiverse)   and  Source Code
[14:05] <bidossessi> Valentina, the sdc1 is, from what you said, your home partition. you won't be able to remove it
[14:05] <user1> bazhang : I dont know but there is a small bit which adds to streaming music in realplayer which i can distinguish from mplayer/ totem / vlc
[14:06] <bidossessi> Valentina, you can try a live cd
[14:06] <Newbuntu2> I'm having a problem with my partitions - I screwed up the MBR with GParted, it seems. Which is the right channel for booting problems? I posted the issue [http://gparted-forum.surf4.info/viewtopic.php?id=13765 ] and it seems it's just resetting a couple of bits, but don't know how to....
[14:06] <mosta> SAMBA GUYZ
[14:06] <mosta> i wanna share files HOW ?
[14:06] <Newbuntu2> nobody is answering and this is my work computer....
[14:06] <Kinshuk> i upgraded my motherboard coz my old board was burned... upgraded from genuineintel DG31 to DG41... now when i boot my system, i get an error 18 at grub stage 1.5 - i have ubuntu 9.04 and win vista ultimate
[14:06] <Madpilot> tigertiger, under "Downloadable from the Internet" there should be five lines w/ checkboxes
[14:06] <coz_> Newbuntu2,  if no one here has a solution for you you might want to go to the  #grub  channel   :)
[14:07] <Dr_Willis> !info samba-doc  | mosta
[14:07] <user1> bazhang : specially if you want all those violin and frequencies to just be the way they are . my ears are becoming too much distinguishive to music and noise nowadays :)
[14:07] <Dr_Willis> mosta:  i just rigght clicked on a folder and used 'share' and it shared it to my lan. :) i did set a proper workgroup in /etc/samba/smb.conf first however
[14:08] <Valentina> bidossessi: Yea, but maybe it will mess up the partition table next time I boot because of my fdisk (d) then (n) and at last (w)?
[14:08] <xt28> Valentina: the partition table doesn't change across reboots.
[14:08] <bidossessi> Valentina, fdisk does what it does right now, not later
[14:08] <Kinshuk> how do i fix the grub 18 error at stage 1.5 ?
[14:09] <Valentina> xt28: Well, I still can reach the files on the partition so then it wouldnät harm my partition messing with fdisk then?
[14:09] <Valentina> *wouldn't
[14:09] <xt28> Valentina: when in doubt, compare the partition layout in /proc/partitions with the partition layout on the disk (that fdisk shows you).
[14:09] <epinky> mosta: is samba already installed?
[14:09] <Valentina> xt28: Ok.
[14:09] <theadmin> firefox crashed... apport is not reacting. WTF
[14:10] <kartook> how can i update the GPG keys ? always showing no available ... or how can i get the new GPG key ?
[14:10] <Valentina> xt28: There is a dm-0 partition in /proc/partitions, what's that?
[14:10] <xt28> Valentina: a device mapper partition.
[14:11] <bidossessi> Valentina, it seems you installed the system after you inserted the hdd, or that your fstab file was changed to use that disk. i suggest you figure out what you did before thinking about formatting, and potentially loosing data
[14:11] <xt28> Valentina: used for encrypted devices, lvm etc.
[14:11] <prageeth> how to install dotnet frame work in ubuntu
[14:11] <bidossessi> prageeth, mono
[14:11] <theadmin> kartook: To create a key, type this into a terminal: gpg --gen-key
[14:11] <Valentina> xt28: Aha, for my encrypted home partition then, I think.
[14:12] <bidossessi> dotnet framework is a windows technology. the equivalent for linux (although not quite the same) is mono, child of the notorious novell
[14:12] <xt28> Valentina: wait, i thought sdc1 was your home partition?
[14:12] <gangrenator> join #fw
[14:13] <gangrenator> quit
[14:13] <Valentina> Well, the thing that fooled me was that my new hard drivw somehoe got sda. That's really strange, before I had sda and sdb, then I inserted a new hard drive and I thought it would be sdc not sda and moving my old drives one step lower???
[14:13] <bidossessi> Valentina, the system does not shuffle your mount points around on it's own. if your sdc is now mounted on /home,, then it means you installed it that way
[14:14] <drover> #filelist
[14:14] <ascheel> Is there a way to choose which logins are used in the gdm login screen and which ones don't show?
[14:14] <Tamale> hello everyone!  Why do dark themes mess up font colors in firefox? I have "allow webpages to choose their own fonts" checked
[14:14] <L337hium> i have to ask some about to build my own ubuntu server live cd? is this the right place?
[14:14] <bidossessi> unless you have a mix of sata and ide, where some mess could ensue
[14:14] <mahngiel> l337hium: i know a little about that
[14:15] <kartook> in my sources.list Repos need to update the GPG keys ? how can i update the GPG keys for my sources .list
[14:15] <xt28> Valentina: on the other hand, drive letters (sda, sdb, sdc) are subject to change across reboots. (hence, uuids as has been pointed out.)
[14:15] <ActionParsnip> kartook: if you can use a pastebin of the output of: sudo apt-get update    I can advise
[14:15] <L337hium> mahngiel, k i read some tutorials and tried remastersys on my ubuntu server 9.10. but i cant boot the .iso in virtualbox and all tutorials i found used kde/gnome :/
[14:15] <ActionParsnip> !paste | kartook
[14:16] <bidossessi> xt28, using uuid or /dev device names is not a choice left to the user afaik
[14:16] <ActionParsnip> L337hium: did you md5 test the iso?
[14:16] <mbeierl> Valentina: sorry - joining in late to the discussion - some sata controllers insert drives higher than others on the board - the new drive might have a higher number id and that's why it shows up first
[14:16] <mahngiel> ty A.P.
[14:16] <Valentina> bidossessi: Ok, well, I think it wouldn't mess up them on it's own. I can see I have my /home at sdc and my file system at sdb. And I can't even see the new hard drive using sudo fdisk -l because of it's not mounted?
[14:16] <L337hium> ActionParsnip, i thin remastersys should do so
[14:16] <xt28> bidossessi: with a free operating system, almost any choice is left to the user...
[14:17] <mahngiel> l337hium: try downloading a prgm called md5sum
[14:17] <ActionParsnip> L337hium: no, its not its job, it just sees an iso file
[14:17] <kartook> Hit http://archive.ubuntu.com jaunty-security/multiverse Packages
[14:17] <kartook> Hit http://archive.ubuntu.com jaunty-security/multiverse Sources
[14:17] <kartook> W: Failed to fetch http://download.skype.com/linux/repos/debian/dists/stable/non-free/binary-amd64/Packages  404 Not Found [IP: <IP_ADDRESS> 80]
[14:17] <kartook> E: Some index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old ones used instead.
[14:17] <kartook> kartook@moon:~$
[14:17] <FloodBot1> kartook: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:17] <ActionParsnip> L337hium: test the file, make sure it passes checks, you may be using a corrupted file
[14:17] <ActionParsnip> kartook: i said to use pastebin, I even gave you the link!
[14:17] <Valentina> mbeierl: I have some old IDE connected hard drives of only 20-40 GB.
[14:17] <bidossessi> xt28, maybe i should rephrase: the casual user.
[14:17] <L337hium> ActionParsnip, k i'm back soon… testing
[14:17] <L337hium> thx!
[14:17] <mahngiel> l336hium: and make sure the iso file you are burning to the cd gets unpackaged on the cd
[14:17] <xt28> Valentina: fdisk -l should list all partitions.
[14:18] <bidossessi> xt28, after all, not everyone pops up the hood
[14:18] <xt28> Valentina: the man page says it uses /proc/partitions
[14:18] <mbeierl> Valentina: ide?  showing up as /dev/sdX ?
[14:18] <ActionParsnip> all drives are IDE ;)
[14:18] <ActionParsnip> technically
[14:18] <kartook> here you go sorry forthe flooed   :    http://pastebin.ca/1664902
[14:18] <bidossessi> ActionParsnip, yes, technically,, but you know what we mean :p
[14:18] <Dr_Willis> i got an ide floppy ls120 drive :)(
[14:19] <ActionParsnip> bidossessi: i do, its my thing :P
[14:19] <Laibcoms> Valentina: my experience with Karmic, the system follows your mboard's "cable" order not the bios. I had drive mixed ups when I moved to Karmic, might be related.
[14:19] <xt28> bidossessi: we have already established that Valentina used fdisk to edit the partition table. i read that as popping up the hood. (apart from that, you're right, though.)
[14:19] <xt28> !uuid | Laibcoms
[14:19] <xt28> Laibcoms: you should use UUIDs.
[14:19] <Mwa> How do I close those damn notifications that pop up whever anything happens, don't go away for ages and temporarily vanish as soon as I try to click on them to close them, only to reappear as soon as I move my mouse away?
[14:20] <ActionParsnip> kartook: the repo you are having issues with does not exists
[14:20] <ActionParsnip> kartook: you should review the skype line
[14:20] <Mwa> Because they're driving me absolutely crazy. >:(
[14:20] <bidossessi> Valentina, i assume that you know which hdd hold which partition. using uuids, you should be able to force the system to mount them where they belong
[14:20] <kartook> okie
[14:20] <Valentina> mbeierl: Well, I think it's old IDE that the interface of old hard drives?
[14:20] <mahngiel> has there been any progress on the suspend issue?
[14:20] <ActionParsnip> kartook: if you put the address of the repo in a browser, it should display the files, that line does not
[14:20] <Laibcoms> xt28: yep I am using UUID, since Jaunty :)  I also double-checked it when I upgraded to Karmic, the system doesn't want to follow my HDD boot order via my bios :p
[14:20] <pranav> fast please -ssh is installed in my ubuntu but when I do "service ssh" it says unrecognized service, how do I run the service so that my friend can login in the next room ?
[14:20] <mbeierl> Valentina: it's the "wide/fat" cable, right, not the newer thin red cable...
[14:20] <xt28> Laibcoms: all right.
[14:21] <bidossessi> mahngiel, i don't know, and that's actually my only gripe with ubuntu
[14:21] <gnusar> how can i customize the nautilus file browser?
[14:21] <moreia> I have a couple of hidden directories called things like .fr-cIGcnw and .fr-AnmIr9 each with what appears to be a complete copy of my entire /home/ directory in it.
[14:21] <kartook> can i use this link for generating the repos for me :   http://pastebin.ca/1664906
[14:21] <bidossessi> gnusar, 'customize' meaning?
[14:21] <mahngiel> bidossessi, heard that
[14:21] <Laibcoms> xt28: something must have been updated in Karmic and it is working as intended now.  but in Jaunty it wasn't hehe ^_^
[14:21] <moreia> Any idea what these are? I can't figure out useful terms to search on.
[14:21] <xt28> mbeierl, how does that matter? Valentina, are you unsure which partition is on which physical disk?
[14:21] <Valentina> mbeierl: It's the wide flat cable absolutely not the sats2 cables that you use with newer mobos.
[14:22] <domelek> hi
[14:22] <gnusar> bidossessi: well in fact i was wondering if i can add a button that opens the terminal or generally executes an app.... like a button on panels on the desktop
[14:22] <pranav> somebidy, fast please -ssh is installed in my ubuntu but when I do "service ssh" it says unrecognized service, how do I run the service so that my friend can login in the next room ?
[14:22] <ActionParsnip> Valentina: ide == integrated drive electronics, all new dives have them, even scsi. Old drive back in the day didnt have the small pcb so had no cache or intelligence and relied solely on the controller for instruction. The new iDE drives came out and its just stuck, technically any drive with a little controller circuit is IDE, SATA drives are ISE too. People really mean PATA or parallel ATA ;)
[14:22] <Valentina> mbeierl: There are may oins at the back of the hard drive, not a SATA2 interface.
[14:22] <domelek> jest tu jakis polak ?
[14:22] <Valentina> *many oins
[14:22] <Valentina> *pins
[14:22] <bidossessi> gnusar, are you talking about launchers on the desktop or on the panel (taskbar)
[14:22] <naoufel> hi
[14:23] <gnusar> bidossessi: nope, about the file browser
[14:23] <mbeierl> xt28, Valentina: I was just confused that ubuntu now starts reporting the old /dev/hdX as /dev/sdX.  Prior versions used to report PATA (or 40-pin ide, or whatever) as hd not sd.
[14:23] <xt28> Valentina: this is getting confusing. can you re-state the problem that you are trying to solve?
[14:23] <kartook> can i use this link for generating the repos for me :   http://pastebin.ca/1664906
[14:23] <bidossessi> gnusar, why would you want to do that? can you do it in antoher OS?
[14:23] <xt28> mbeierl: true.
[14:24] <Madpilot> mbeierl, that change happened a couple of Ubuntu releases ago - some change in the underlying libraries, apparently
[14:24] <ActionParsnip> kartook: skype is on the medibuntu repo
[14:24] <Valentina> ActionParsnip: Ok, I don't know but when I look into a regular computer store there are often two kinds of 3.5" hard drives, one they call IDE and one named SATA2.
[14:24] <bidossessi> mbeierl, that's been changed a while ago. now everything's just sdX
[14:24] <xt28> Madpilot: yes.
[14:24] <stevecoh1> Using Karmic, though this pertains to other versions as well.  I would like to copy the icon from one launcher to another.  But I know of no way to find where the launcher got the icon from and no cut/paste capability exists for this.  How do I find out where the first launcher is finding the icon?
[14:24] <mahngiel> Valentina, different kinds of plugs
[14:24] <xt28> Madpilot: the kernel, to be more precise.
[14:24] <ActionParsnip> Valentina: i know, its common and people know what is meant but its not rigt but the language serves its purpose so its ok
[14:25] <gnusar> bidossessi: i don't know.. that's why i am asking :) just wanted to know if there is the possibility to do such changes..
[14:25] <mahngiel> Valentina: IDE/PATA are an older type of MB connections and read/write slower than the newer SATA
[14:25] <Valentina> xt28: Well, I tried to connect a new hard drive (an old one actually) and partioning it and formatting it into ext4. I think I know how to do that, the problem is...
[14:25] <resno> !pm
[14:25] <ActionParsnip> kartook: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Skype
[14:25] <kartook> can i use this link for generating the repositories for my ubuntu  :   http://repogen.simplylinux.ch/index.php
[14:25] <bidossessi> gnusar, not that i know of, but then i havent' explored nautilus that much.
[14:25] <zaoul> What can I use to make a data dvd iso?
[14:25] <mbeierl> Madpilot, bidossessi: shows how much attention I've been paying.  Ok, so that's why UIDs have become so popular...
[14:25] <gnusar> bidossessi: okay thank you anyways
[14:26] <xt28> mbeierl: one of the main reasons, yes.
[14:26] <bidossessi> mbeierl, pretty useful, themm uuid buggers, even though they can be a hand(type)ful
[14:26] <mahngiel> zaoul: just burn under data dvd/cd
[14:26] <ph8> hi all, does anyone have a spotify-remote type thing (from iphone/android) working with spotify over wine in ubuntu?
[14:26] <mahngiel> zaul: if you want an image burned to be executable, then you burn the iso to disk. not the same as putting it on the disk as traditional data
[14:27] <zaoul> mahngiel: I want to rip, and no its not bootlegg, it's a previously created dvd
[14:27] <stevecoh1> anyone have an answer to my query about copying icons from one launcher to another?
[14:27] <ActionParsnip> zaoul: if its just pure data to then burn you can use mkisofs
[14:27] <zaoul> orly
[14:27] <Valentina> ... that I thought my new drive would be at /dev/sdc BUT then it seems like my /home was at /dev/sdc. That's very strange because I installed Ubuntu Server from scratch, the file system on one hard drive and the /home on another single hard drive. So then I think Ubuntu Server will call the drives sda and sdb and I'm pretty sure it did until I plugged in another on (hard drive nr 3). Then it looks like Ubuntu Serve
[14:27] <Laibcoms> stevecoh1: The only way I know is finding where that icon you want to copy is located.
[14:27] <ActionParsnip> stevecoh1: if you open the .desktop file in a text editor, you will see an icon line
[14:28] <stevecoh1> But the first launcher won't tell me that.  Can launchers be viewed as text somehow?
[14:28] <equivoc> hello, is it slightly possible that 09.10 is a big pile of shit?
[14:28] <xt28> Valentina: are you trying to figure out why the device names changed? trying to find out whether your data is okay? something else?
[14:28] <Valentina> I think Ubuntu Server somehow moved my old sda to sdb and the old sdb to sdc when I inserted a new hard drive that probably will be sda for now?
[14:29] <equivoc> i'm using ubuntu since 06.04, but this one is a real disappointment
[14:29] <legend2440> stevecoh1: is this a launcher you created or is it one in the Menu?  which launcher is it?
[14:29] <elky> equivoc, this isn't the place to discuss such opinion.
[14:29] <bidossessi> +1
[14:29] <ActionParsnip> stevecoh1: yes, they are located were you have copied them to (most likely desktop) or in /usr/share/applications
[14:29] <mbeierl> Valentina: when you put the new drive in, it re-ordered the disks as they are found on the motherboard.  If you remove the new disk, you will probably see things go back to normal
[14:29] <equivoc> elky: where is this place?
[14:30] <PupenoG> I have two servers, one of them is running nagios and monitoring both. Both servers have firewalls and the port used by nagios for remote monitoring is blocked by ufw (and confirmed by nmap); how is it possible that nagios still tell me that everything is ok?
[14:30] <joakim> Valentina: sda/sdb and so forth are determined after which sata controller it sits on, hdd on  controller 0 becomes sda, controller 1 sdb etc
[14:30] <ikonia> PupenoG: depends on your nagios setup, nagios maybe also checking with basic tools like ping
[14:30] <stevecoh1> It's the one for eclipse.  There is a bug fix to launch eclipse from a shell script to fix a mouse problem in karmic.  I have written the shell script but I would like to give it the same icon the original launcher had.  Looking through all the eclipse directory structure for this icon is an exercise in frustration.
[14:30] <ikonia> PupenoG: the port service is only for client to client communication
[14:30] <elky> equivoc, there's lots of channels on freenode for you to choose from. #ubuntu ones are no place for bad language and unsubstantiated criticism of #ubuntu.
[14:30] <PupenoG> ikonia: I have the amount of users and processes of the remote machine.
[14:31] <moreia> I have a couple of hidden directories called things like .fr-cIGcnw and .fr-AnmIr9 each with what appears to be a complete copy of my entire /home/ directory in it.  Any idea what these are? I can't figure out useful terms to search on.
[14:31] <mbeierl> equivoc: I've been using Ubuntu since 4.10, and some releases have been more smooth than others, I agree.  But I've been using 9.10 since alpha 2, and think it's great for a non-LTS release.  If you want stable, stick with LTS
[14:31] <Valentina> xt28: Well, I thought the new drive was sdc so I run sudo fdisk on it and then tried to delete a partition using the (d) option in fdisk, then I tried to create a new one using (n) oprtion and last of all I run (w) option to write the new partition table. Then I tried to format the sdc and noticed that it was the /home directory in use!!! So, my first question is, what the heck did I do to my /home partition at sdc
[14:31] <pranav> How can I copy files from ssh client to my computer
[14:31] <pranav> ?
[14:31] <bidossessi> pranav, man scp
[14:31] <ActionParsnip> !scp | pranav
[14:31] <ikonia> PupenoG: it's a two way chat, is the client sending back to the server ?
[14:31] <mahngiel> valentina, sounds like you tried to delete yourself, mate!
[14:32] <equivoc> mbeierl: i just said yes to the upgrade from yesterday
[14:32] <ActionParsnip> stevecoh1: try: sudo find / -iname "*.png"     which may help, you could just download one from the web instead
[14:32] <Valentina> joakim: So if I plug in a new hard drive it will change which drive is sda, sdb and sdc?
[14:32] <bidossessi> Valentina, the suggestion to remove the offending new drive seems sensible to me.
[14:32] <xt28> Valentina: i tried to answer that question above. should i clarify something? repeat?
[14:32] <PupenoG> ikonia: not sure. I think the nagios on the remote server doesn't know where nagios is running, so it can't communicate back.
[14:32] <kartook> can i use this link for generating the repositories for my ubuntu  :   http://repogen.simplylinux.ch/index.php
[14:32] <stevecoh1> thanks
[14:32] <ikonia> PupenoG: it must do, the clients have a server configuration so they know where to send back to
[14:32] <Valentina> xt28: Yeah, you told me to check /proc/partitions, right?
[14:32] <bidossessi> Valentina, in the meantime you should kee track of your drive's uuid so as not to get more confused in the future
[14:32] <BluesKaj> Valentina, use GParted live cd, you can't partition while running an OS
[14:33] <mbeierl> Valentina: if you already used fdisk to alter the partition table, don't reboot just yet
[14:33] <bidossessi> !uuid
[14:33] <xt28> Valentina: yes.
[14:33] <naoufel> forza OPNBSD
[14:33] <xt28> BluesKaj: yes, you can.
[14:33] <joakim> Valentina: not necessarily. maybe you had hdd's connected on sata controllers 1 and 2, then if you connect a third hdd on sata controller 0, all devices becomes different
[14:33] <IdleOne> !it | naoufel
[14:33] <equivoc> elky: how can ssh segfault?
[14:33] <TheTom> Hello ubuntu-people! I'm following the guide located @ https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel/Compile but can't find a debian directory on my system, and thus not the "debian/rules updateconfigs" command. I found my kernel config file under /boot . Any hints? Maybe there's a newer guide, iæve just upgraded to Karmic.
[14:33] <joakim> Valentina: but if you had devices on controllers 0 and 1, and left them like that and connected the third drive on controller 2, it shouldnt change
[14:33] <ActionParsnip> equivoc: its a software, so it can
[14:34] <PupenoG> ikonia: and at any rate, the other machine also has a strict firewall.
[14:34] <BluesKaj> xt28, well, an OS on the HDD that's being partitioned
[14:34] <mbeierl> Valentina: so what happened is you have altered the drive's layout for the partition, but as long as you have /home mounted, you can get the data off without too much trouble
[14:34] <Valentina> BluesKaj: I'm trying to partiton and format a whole new drive but the Ubuntu Server played me a joke changing my drives sda got sdb and sdb got sdc and the new one sda. The mad eme try to partiton and format my sdc (Home directry) instead of my new hard drive!
[14:34] <BluesKaj> sry shudda qualified that
[14:34] <ikonia> PupenoG: what port are you blocking ?
[14:34] <xt28> BluesKaj: i am not sure about that.
[14:34] <PupenoG> ikonia: all except 22, 53 and 9103.
[14:34] <BluesKaj> xt28, try and see what happens :)
[14:34] <mbeierl> Valentina: unfortunately, it's not a joke, it's the way drives work.  You are not supposed to rely on the /dev/sdX names to identify the drives :(
[14:35] <joakim> Valentina: You probably had hdd's on controllers 1 and 2, while you connected the new one on controller 0. Thus, the new hdd became /dev/sda/ while the old sda became sdb, and sdb became sdc
[14:35] <mbeierl> Valentina: do not reboot, do not umount /home yet
[14:35] <Valentina> mbeierl: I tried to reboot before, but I'm not sure the computer did, I got thrown out of ssh but I didn't herar the fans go off on the computer, I have it right by my sida but using ssh anyway.
[14:35] <lucijan> hi, i have two gdm related questions: (1) is there any way in the PostSession script to know which UID oder user logged out and (2) is there a way to remove the session/keyboard/etc. men
[14:35] <ojii> hi all
[14:35] <ikonia> PupenoG: what is running on 9103
[14:35] <mbeierl> Valentina: do you have access to /home anymore?
[14:35] <ojii> is there a way to run rhythmbox without pulseaudio?
[14:35] <PupenoG> ikonia: bacula.
[14:35] <llutz> BluesKaj: don't know how gparted works, but you can partition all you want, except changing mounted partitions
[14:35] <bidossessi> Valentina, to cut it short. use blkid to identify your hdds by their uuid, remove the new drive, harden your fstab by replaceing /dev/sdx by the corresponding uuid syntax. problem solved
[14:36] <ArchType> !it
[14:36] <xt28> Valentina: if you enough disk space available, i second mbeierl's advive. just to be save, back up your /home directory.
[14:36] <kartook> Pidgin is not showing my yahoo friends online list .the same same time i can access the mail box through Pidgin ? need help
[14:36] <ikonia> PupenoG: what port are you running nagios on ?
[14:36] <mbeierl> bidossessi: he's modified the partition table of his /home - he's going to need to recover his data before trying anything more...
[14:36] <Valentina> mbeierl: Yeah, I know I can't trust the sdX anymore, but I thought it was always the same! :S
[14:36] <PupenoG> ikonia: not sure, let me check, but I can tell you the default, I didn't change it.
[14:36] <BluesKaj> llutz, very dangerous practice
[14:37] <ActionParsnip> kartook: yahoo change their servers a lot, you may need to find a different messeger server
[14:37] <mbeierl> Valentina: ok, so what state is the computer in now?
[14:37] <Valentina> mbeierl: Yeah, I have acess to /home and I have run ls -l on it without any problem at all.
[14:37] <Valentina> mbeierl: The computer is running.
[14:37] <bidossessi> mbeierl, for now, i believe fstab hasn't been touched yet, so it's possible.
[14:37] <mbeierl> Valentina: ok, good.  Do you have somewhere to store all the data of /home?
[14:37] <kartook> how to find find a differentyahoo  messeger servers ?
[14:37] <xt28> sorry, i've got to go. Valentina, i'll leave you in mbeierl's capable hands. =)
[14:37] <ikonia> PupenoG: can you pastebin the output of "iptables -L" please
[14:37] <mbeierl> xt28: thanks :)
[14:38] <Valentina> mbeierl: I'm logged into it using ssh (only having one display and trying to get used to remote control, but I have the server here by my side).
[14:38] <PupenoG> ikonia: sure.
[14:38] <ActionParsnip> kartook: websearch, m'boy, websearch
[14:38] <PupenoG> ikonia: nrpe is running on 5666.
[14:39] <bidossessi> ActionParsnip, +10
[14:39] <Valentina> xtmnx: Yeah, I will move a copy of my /home directory to my desktop computer to be sure.
[14:39] <mahngiel> has anybody found an enjoyable replacement for rhythmbox?
[14:39] <ikonia> PupenoG: ok, lets looks at your rules
[14:39] <bidossessi> mahngiel, banshee
[14:39] <mbeierl> Valentina: so, can you pastebin the output of cat /etc/fstab and mount, please?
[14:39] <ActionParsnip> mahngiel: banshee
[14:39] <mahngiel> thanks
[14:39] <ActionParsnip> mahngiel: amarok if you dont mind bloat
[14:39] <ActionParsnip> !player
[14:39] <bidossessi> mahngiel, banshee, exaile (the dev version)
[14:39] <Valentina> mbeierl: There is not that much data, some shell scripts and a lot of text files, like 50 MB only.-
[14:39] <mahngiel> bidossessi: couldn't stand exaile
[14:39] <Valentina> mvbI have room for it,.
[14:39] <mbeierl> Valentina: what else is on that same hard drive?
[14:40] <kartook> thanks dude
[14:40] <kartook> :)
[14:40] <kartook> i learned new things to day
[14:40] <BluesKaj> mahngiel, VLC ftw
[14:40] <Valentina> mbeierl: Noting, like 50MB only, the drive has 40GB and almost all is free.
[14:40] <kartook> i will come daily iwill new things from you guys thanks a lot
[14:40] <mahngiel> blues, thanks mate :)
[14:40] <bidossessi> mahngiel, seems they've come a long way since the last installment. it looks pretty decent now, (the dev version though; stable stillsucks :p)
[14:40] <legend2440> stevecoh1: if find doesnt help    if eclipse is in the Menu ( i dont have eclipse installed so i dont know if it is)  then open  System>preferences>main menu  and highlight the Eclipse launcher and press Properties and then click on the icon. that may open a box to show where that png file is
[14:40] <Splendid> where pidgin put files from file transfers by default
[14:40] <Splendid> ?
[14:40] <Laibcoms> mahngiel: or songbird
[14:41] <Xcell> yucky
[14:41] <bidossessi> Splendid, where you tell it to :)
[14:41] <TheTom> I need the community!
[14:41] <mbeierl> Valentina: ok, good.  Is that the one that you attempted the fdisk on, thinking it was the new drive?  (I'm not being a jerk, just don't know a better way to ask it)
[14:41] <ojii> why does pulseaudio always auto-restart when i kill it?
[14:41] <mahngiel> TheTom, the community needs YOU
[14:41] <TheTom> Hello ubuntu-people! I'm following the guide located @ https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel/Compile but can't find a debian directory on my system, and thus not the "debian/rules updateconfigs" command. I found my kernel config file under /boot . Any hints? Maybe there's a newer guide, i've just upgraded to Karmic.
[14:41] <Xcell> audacious works great now.. it has shoutcast built init now
[14:41] <bidossessi> ojii, because the system needs it
[14:41] <Splendid> bidossessi, lol, but i didnt tell him anything
[14:41] <TheTom> mahngiel: oh, i'm here, and i'll answer if i can
[14:41] <Valentina> Well, I got somewhat confused, xt38 told me to compare the /proc/partitions by aomsetihng else to check what my fdisk did to my sdc partition talbe?
[14:41] <Valentina> *table
[14:41] <ActionParsnip> !kernel
[14:41] <Maxmim_2> hey people i want to a directory to a shell variable, and to remove one that i added wrong! Could someone provide me the code?
[14:41] <ActionParsnip> same link, bah
[14:41] <iceroot> TheTom: debian/rules  is the structur of a package
[14:42] <ojii> bidossessi: is there no way to prevent that? Apparently some wine apps don't run if pulseaudio is running...
[14:42] <iceroot> TheTom: you can create the deb-structur for e.g. with dh_make
[14:42] <mahngiel> maxim, i don't understand your question
[14:42] <ActionParsnip> Maxmim_2: export DIR1=/path/to/folder; cp file $DIR1
[14:42] <ampex> anyone know what the gnome console is called?
[14:42] <ampex> or the package it's contained in?
[14:42] <ActionParsnip> ampex: terminal
[14:42] <iceroot> ampex: gnome-terminal
[14:42] <bidossessi> ojii, you can always remove pulseaudio, but since it's a gnome hard-dep, you'd really give yourself more headache for little gain
[14:42] <ampex> iceroot and ActionParsnip, thanks
[14:42] <adam12345678> i had to reinstall ubuntu karmic this morning, i reinstalled it on a different, larger , partition. how to i decrypt the home directory on the other partition to transfer files?
[14:42] <Maxmim_2> i want to add a directory to my PATH variable , and to remove one that i added wrong!
[14:42] <mbeierl> Valentina: sorry - I joined late into this.  I just want to make sure - when you type in "mount" does it show /home mounted on the same /dev/sdX as the one that you had used fdisk on?
[14:43] <Valentina> mbeierl: Yes, exactly, I attempt to partition the sdc (my /home) y misstake using sudp fdisk and then I tried to delete the sdc1 using (d) option in fdisk then I tried create a new one (n) option and at last I tried write it using the (w) option in fdisk.
[14:43] <ojii> bidossessi: but i remember being able to stop pulseaudio in 9.04...
[14:43] <ph8> how can a default ubuntu install still not be doing WPA properly??
[14:43] <ph8> it's my single biggest hate about ubuntu
[14:43] <Appiah> ph8: bugs
[14:43] <ph8> and/or linux dists
[14:43] <Appiah> 9.10?
[14:43] <ActionParsnip> Maxmim_2: export PATH=/path/to/folder:"${PATH}"
[14:43] <ph8> yep
[14:43] <TheTom> iceroot: uh, ok, thanks. But I think I just need to find the updateconfigs script.
[14:43] <xpo0f> hi people .. im here to help people :)
[14:44] <ph8> mythbuntu mind, but i see similar things on my straight ubuntu machine
[14:44] <mbeierl> Valentina: and now you have /dev/sdc /home backed up, right?  and sdc was the only one that was touched.  ok, so far so good.
[14:44] <bidossessi> ojii, i don't know that one. never had to stop pulseaudio
[14:44] <Valentina> mbeierl: I got through all those steps and I didn't notice I was messign with my /home until I tried to format it using sudo mkfs -t ext4 /dev/sdc1
[14:44] <ActionParsnip> ph8: not all wifi can do wpa under linux
[14:44] <mbeierl> Valentina: I'm just playing it really safe
[14:44] <ph8> yeh that's ridiculous IMO
[14:44] <ph8> it's drivers i suppose
[14:44] <adam12345678> i had to reinstall ubuntu karmic this morning, i reinstalled it on a different, larger , partition. how to i decrypt the home directory on the other partition to transfer files?
[14:44] <ActionParsnip> ph8: blame the hardware manufacturers
[14:44] <ph8> but it should be the biggest area of priority along with graphics
[14:44] <ph8> indeed :/
[14:44] <ActionParsnip> ph8: not supporting the OS
[14:44] <bidossessi> ph8, not linux's fault if manufacturers wo't realease their source code
[14:44] <Valentina> mbeierl: I haven't got time backing it up, I will right now. The sdc was the only drive I have been messing with, yes.
[14:45] <ActionParsnip> ph8: so its not Linux's fault, go moan at ati ;)
[14:45] <PupenoG> ikonia: http://gist.github.com/230916
[14:45] <xpo0f> bidossessi, agree wit that
[14:45] <ph8> was just venting really
[14:45] <ActionParsnip> ph8: replace moan with burn
[14:45] <biblioteca_> hello !
[14:45] <ph8> i'm about to switch my home media box to windows  media centre
[14:45] <ph8> mainly because of wifi problem
[14:45] <biblioteca_> ohhh
[14:45] <biblioteca_> stupid !
[14:45] <ph8> * problems
[14:45] <ascheel> Lots of people have been asking how to prevent a user name from being displayed in the GDM login screen.  I've finally found out how.  Drop their UID to something <1000 and that particular login will no longer show up in the gdm login list.
[14:45] <biblioteca_> ohhh
[14:45] <ph8> but now we've found one more issue which might not have mattered had wifi worked but i think it's enough to tip us over the edge
[14:45] <biblioteca_> suck my dick motherfuck !!!
[14:46] <LjL> !language | biblioteca_
[14:46] <Valentina> mbeierl: I'll do a backup now, will this work: scp -r /home valentina@(ip-address of my desktop computer):/home/valentina
[14:46] <YeTr2> ph8: If you believe that windows media center is the best option for you, then go for it.
[14:46] <mbeierl> Valentina: ok, so, it is also possible, that the partition that you deleted and then recreated was exactly the same, so there is no damage done at all, and the mkfs did the right thing and protected the data
[14:46] <adam12345678> i had to reinstall ubuntu karmic this morning, i reinstalled it on a different, larger , partition. how to i decrypt the home directory on the other partition to transfer files?
[14:46] <ActionParsnip> ph8: if you shop smart you can buy compatible niceness rather than whats twinkliest or fastest ;)
[14:46] <bidossessi> ph8, had a look at xbmc lately?
[14:46] <rocknroll00> Hello, when I changed the user my unbuntu freezed. After that, I restart my computer, and while browsing the internet the computer suddently turn off. I try to turn on again but it turns off during the grub loader. After that I turn it on again and this time it works..... very strange this didn't happen before. Any idea?
[14:47] <catamarquence> had to come back to gnome... i dont know why kde is so unstable still...!
[14:47] <mahngiel> AP: werd
[14:47] <bidossessi> rocknroll00, check your temps
[14:47] <m0RrE> adam12345678: do you have the passphrase stored?
[14:47] <ActionParsnip> rocknroll00: i'd run the memtest in the grub menu
[14:47] <BluesKaj> ph8, why not just tell us your issues ... threatening to go back to windows won't help you , nobody cares
[14:47] <ActionParsnip> mahngiel: hola
[14:47] <ActionParsnip> BluesKaj: +1
[14:47] <ph8> BluesKaj, sorry man, i'm not threatening - i'm a big ubuntu fan boy - this is only one of three machines
[14:47] <mbeierl> Valentina: so as soon as the scp is complete, you may be able to simply add the new drive by using it's "new" /dev/sda (or sdb) that it claimed, to create the new partition.  I'd suggest using gparted if you can ssh -X (or -Y) to the box
[14:47] <adam12345678> by pass phrase do you mean the login for the user?
[14:47] <m0RrE> no
[14:47] <legend2440> rocknroll00: could be memory overheating or bad power supply
[14:47] <ph8> Was largely just a vent as i say
[14:48] <CHESLYN> hi guys
[14:48] <m0RrE> adam12345678: the encryption key
[14:48] <kn100> what is the difference between apt-get and aptitude?
[14:48] <mahngiel> hi
[14:48] <bidossessi> mbeierl, you don't want to go the uuid route? future-proof
[14:48] <ph8> So for my media centre, win media is looking like the best bet, but that because i want thinks like spotify integration
[14:48] <ph8> which i'm actually just about to discuss on the myth list
[14:48] <adam12345678> i clicked through that prompt i think because i was doing alot of synaptic stuff
[14:48] <ph8> wireless support i guess is being worked on, and we just discussed
[14:48] <mbeierl> Valentina: the reason I'd recommend gparted is that it does both partitioning and filesystem creation and it has the ability to warn you about live filesystems all in one
[14:48] <mbeierl> bidossessi: I think using gparted will give him uuid, no?
[14:48] <xpo0f> ph8, what myth list
[14:48] <adam12345678> does that mean its not set?
[14:48] <titusg> jaunty has removed the 'default X session' option from gdm -- how do I put it back?
[14:48] <Valentina> mbeierl: Yeah, the sudo mkfs didn't do anytihng I think, but maybe the sudo fdisk did? I was told to write number of cylinders(?) and starting block and ending block, I used starting block 1 and ending block 5005 (default).
[14:49] <YeTr2> ph8: also, I don't know the quality of network manager, but if you are configuring a HTC, I would say disable NM and configure the wireless connection manually, you'll probably get a better result.
[14:49] <savid> Hi, I'm not able to get a microphone working through the 3.5mm microphone jack on my laptop.   My sound card is intel HD audio (82801H - ICH8 Family).  It only records sound from my laptop's built-in mic.  How can I fix this?
[14:49] <ph8> xpo0f, mailing list?
[14:49] <m0RrE> adam12345678: it's randomly generated, if you don't have it, you can't access your files
[14:49] <mbeierl> bidossessi: no, wait - it won't add the /etc/fstab for him...
[14:49] <ActionParsnip> mbeierl: sudo blkid  for that
[14:49] <junior_> ju
[14:49] <Valentina> mbeierl: Yeah, I know, I have used gparted before, but I tried to be smart using the cli at my server. :S
[14:49] <Laibcoms> adam12345678: when you installed karmic, it asked you if you want to make your /home encrypted. Then on your first login, a window pops up telling you your passphrase for that encrypted folder
[14:49] <xpo0f> ph8, u said about myth list..
[14:49] <junior_> brasil
[14:49] <bidossessi> Valentina, since you have a backup of your home, i really thing you need to remove the new drive you popped in now and see whether you get your old system back
[14:49] <tree88> can somebody help me in installing matlab, if I have the script file but no reply on ./install
[14:49] <adam12345678> lol it said nothing of the sort
[14:49] <BluesKaj> mbeierl, the gparted live cd is the easiest and safest way to go ..a biut of DLing and burning but then you have an app that can even fix windows mbrs etc :)
[14:49] <mbeierl> ActionParsnip, bidossessi: is there an "all-in-one add a new disk and put the entry in automagically" tool?
[14:49] <m0RrE> Laibcoms: this is his old partittion
[14:49] <adam12345678> it didnt give me a passphrase
[14:49] <xpo0f> tree88, make sure u have execute that
[14:50] <adam12345678> it asked me to give one
[14:50] <m0RrE> and it doesn't print the passphrase
[14:50] <rocknroll00> bidossessi: that is? what should I look for exactly?
[14:50] <bidossessi> mbeierl, nope :(
[14:50] <Valentina> mbeierl: Will it be possible using gParted at my Desktop computer partioning the new hard drive at my server computer through ssh?
[14:50] <junior_> kgjhdfffffffffffffffffffjg
[14:50] <bidossessi> rocknroll00, overheating
[14:50] <xpo0f> Valentina, maybe cfdisk will useful
[14:50] <mbeierl> BluesKaj: for adding a new disk - I think it's safer to do it from the running live os, no?  That way live, mounted filesystems can't be touched
[14:50] <TheTom> I like byubo but it's a corny name! Impossible not only to pronounce, but also to remember how to type! Idiots!
[14:50] <xpo0f> !cfdisk
[14:50] <ActionParsnip> rocknroll00: reboot, in the grub menu, read the screen
[14:50] <m0RrE> adam12345678: try this ecryptfs-unwrap-passprahse /path/to/old/home/.ecryptfs/wrapped-passphrase
[14:50] <ActionParsnip> !info cfdisk
[14:50] <m0RrE> and enter your old login pass
[14:50] <mbeierl> Valentina: you can ssh -X to the server and then run gksu gparted
[14:51] <asdf1234> hello! i hope u can help me. im looking for days for a solution. in gnome->places, i need not only removable media shown but hard disk partitions also. its been a feature in ubuntu, but not in the standard gnome install under gentoo. i need to know how to achieve this.
[14:51] <xpo0f> ActionParsnip, forgot about info command
[14:51] <rocknroll00> Sorry I was disconnected. I see overheating, and check the grub menu screen
[14:51] <mbeierl> Valentina: on the remote computer, and then it will send its display back to you.
[14:51] <tree88> xpo0f: I did nano install, found the file is full of scripts regarding installation starting with #!/bin/sh
[14:51] <llutz> !info gnu-fdisk
[14:51] <mart> has anyone installed SVN on to ubuntu resently. when i do the setup and try to start apache2 i get the following error.Unknown DAV provider: /svn  Does anyone know how to fix this because i have spent a week at it.
[14:51] <tree88> xpo0f: the color shown in "ls" is green
[14:51] <titusg> I meant *karmic* has removed the 'default X session' option from gdm -- how do I put it back? :-)
[14:51] <xpo0f> tree88, sure becoz it is bash script
[14:51] <ActionParsnip> asdf1234: ask in #gentoo for gentoo support
[14:51] <Valentina> mbeierl: Well, the backup is done, I hop it worked.
[14:51] <Valentina> *hope
[14:51] <asdf1234> ActionParsnip: its gnome specifix, so its ubuntu.
[14:52] <llutz> ActionParsnip: cfdisk is provided by gnu-fdisk or util-linux, not a package on its own
[14:52] <xpo0f> !info bash | tree88
[14:52] <BluesKaj> mbeierl, gparted live cd is basically a small linux OS
[14:52] <dinya> hello all. i want upgrade my 9.04 to 9.10, but i need about 6gb free on /. how can i find big packages to remove?
[14:52] <mbeierl> Valentina: if the scp completed, then ya, it's good.  It's pretty black and white :)
[14:52] <bidossessi> Valentina, for the love of all that's holy, take the time to get the uuid for each of your hhd's and update your fstab. that's the ONLY future-proof way
[14:52] <adam12345678> it said ecryptfs-unwrap-passprahse: command not found
[14:52] <bumbblebee> which is better zlib or gzip??
[14:52] <ActionParsnip> asdf1234: incorrect, many many distros use gnome so your issue is with the config within the distro you are using
[14:52] <xpo0f> tree88, becoz it have auto-color in that script... for debugging purpose
[14:52] <LifeIsPain> coz_ (and whoever coz_ was talking to): http://xchat.org/faq/#q27 , create a xchat.png file in that directory
[14:52] <Valentina> mbeierl: The remote computer is a Ubuntu Server installation so it won't have any dekstop installed, only cli.
[14:52] <mahngiel> 7zip will not unpack for me
[14:52] <tree88> xpo0f: how do I install it
[14:52] <ActionParsnip> asdf1234: so its gentoo, or you can ask in #gnome
[14:52]  * bidossessi gives up
[14:52] <asdf1234> ActionParsnip: incorrect. ur mother.
[14:52] <san123> please can anyone help me i cant see icons in my panel even amarok icon and sound icon i tried to add it but it is showing already added
[14:53] <ActionParsnip> !ops | asdf1234 being inconsiderate and insulting
[14:53] <xpo0f> tree88, chmod a+x [ your script ] and ./script
[14:53] <mbeierl> BluesKaj: sorry, yes I am familiar with gparted live, but I'm thinking for this application, where a new drive is being added, I think it might be safer to stick with the running linux os...
[14:53] <coz_> LifeIsPain,   hey guy thanks  will  take a look at this
[14:53] <ikonia> what's up
[14:53] <Valentina> bidossessi: Yes, hehe, I know that for now. I didn't know about the changing of sdX before.
[14:53] <Laibcoms> m0RrE: ahh, only saw the 'reinstalled karmic'.  And, it doesn't show it? O_O   I got some random generated code after my first login on a fresh install of karmic.
[14:53] <ActionParsnip> ikonia: please discuss with asdf1234 why gentoo support is not here, he's also being flatly insulting
[14:53] <xpo0f> Valentina, always with manual.. explore inside
[14:54] <Valentina> bidossessi: If I did know about it I hadn't started messing with the sdc from the beginning.
[14:54] <lianimator> Hi, is there a way to control a remote computer which is behind a router which the user may not configure? in other words, cannot forward any ports.
[14:54] <xpo0f> ikonia, gentoo is different..
[14:54] <ikonia> ActionParsnip: looks like bazhang has delt with it,
[14:54] <BluesKaj> mbeierl, perhaps you're right , I've never encountered that situation before.
[14:54] <Finnish> I seriously need an invoice-program, it's also for a beginning ubuntu-user so what are your tips?
[14:54] <san123> please help
[14:54] <ikonia> xpo0f: I know what gentoo is
[14:54] <titusg> anyone know a howto for adding wm options to gdm?
[14:54] <mbeierl> Valentina: the remote does not need desktop installed.  Is gparted installed, though?
[14:54] <xpo0f> ikonia, sure for that
[14:54] <mbeierl> Valentina: remote = server
[14:54] <ActionParsnip> lianimator: then you are stuck, the router will always reject the connection due to the nature of NAT
[14:54] <bidossessi> Valentina, do it now, identify the content of each of your drives using a live cd, get their uuid, then update your fstab with uuid syntax. not partitioning needed. i can assure you that you have done no damage up to now, but the way you're going, you will
[14:54] <stevecoh1> ActionParsnip - geez, it's like looking for a needle in a haystack, even filtering past all the pngs with sudo find / -iname "*.png" | grep eclipse and I still can't find what I'm looking for.  If only I knew what the darned thing was called.
[14:54] <adam12345678> it said that encryptfs-utils is not installed
[14:54] <Valentina> mbeierl: On my desktop computer yes, on server, I dunno.
[14:55] <BluesKaj> !wm | titusg
[14:55] <ActionParsnip> stevecoh1: could try *.xpm instead
[14:55] <stevecoh1> ok
[14:55] <mbeierl> Valentina: on your ssh session, simply type in gparted as see?
[14:55] <xpo0f> mbeierl, maybe u need cli disk editor like cfdisk or fdisk
[14:55] <tree88> xpo0f: no reply shows the prompt after ./install again though I chainged the permission as you said
[14:56] <legend2440> stevecoh1: if find doesnt help    if eclipse is in the Menu ( i dont have eclipse installed so i dont know if it is)  then open  System>preferences>main menu  and highlight the Eclipse launcher and press Properties and then click on the icon. that may open a box to show where that png file is
[14:56] <BluesKaj> !windows-media
[14:56] <Valentina> mbeierl: yes, remote is for me the server computer. The server doesnät have a GUI, only cli, but my desktop has got a GUI and gParted.
[14:56] <titusg> BluesKaj: I want to log in using xmonad -- at the moment I have to select xterm then start xmonad
[14:56] <ActionParsnip> ikonia: thanks anyway duder
[14:56] <Valentina> mbeierl: Ok.
[14:56] <xpo0f> tree88, maybe u need to run as root to execute that
[14:56] <tree88> xpo0f: the readme file says to ./install
[14:56] <mahngiel> BluesKaj: what are you looking for under win media?
[14:56] <Valentina> mbeierl: gParted isnät installed on the server, then I will install ie.
[14:56] <tree88> xpo0f: you mean sudo ./install or su and then do all these ?
[14:56] <Valentina> *it
[14:56] <ActionParsnip> tree88: when its ran does it say file not found?
[14:56] <Yolarina1> How do I add the icons besides menu items (File -> New/Open/Save/Etc.) in 9.10?
[14:56] <xpo0f> tree88, if not have permission to execute.. how it will be ./install .. sure for root
[14:56] <mbeierl> Valentina: don't worry about it then.  we'll just use parted
[14:56] <BluesKaj> mahngiel, nothing , i was mistaken
[14:57] <Valentina> mbeierl: Ok.
[14:57] <ampex> how can I change the default run level on ubuntu 9.10 server? I installed gdm but I don't want it to start up in graphical mode
[14:57] <mbeierl> Valentina:  or fdisk or whatever you are most comfortable with.
[14:57] <xpo0f> mbeierl, sure for that.. parted also work fine
[14:57] <ikonia> ampex: update-rc.configd
[14:57] <Valentina> The problem is what my fdisk did to my /home partition sdc1 and how to get it right again.
[14:57] <guntbert> !runlevel ampex
[14:57] <ikonia> ampex: sorry - update-rc.d
[14:57] <lianimator> I'm on Karmic now and there is no /boot/grub/menu.lst so how does it know I also have a windows partition?
[14:57] <guntbert> !runlevel | ampex
[14:57] <bidossessi> Valentina, that is a fstab issue! not a partition issue
[14:58] <xpo0f> lianimator, u need to manual for that
[14:58] <tree88> ActionParsnip: It says nth, not even a blank line returns to the prompt again
[14:58] <Valentina> mbeierl: We try fdisk, I went well last time I used it, but on the wrong disc. ;)
[14:58] <tree88> ActionParsnip: the file is sure there
[14:58] <Yolarina1> How do I add the icons besides menu items (File -> New/Open/Save/Etc.) in 9.10?
[14:58] <lianimator> xpo0f: you mean, manually create?
[14:58] <ActionParsnip> tree88: hmm, well thats something, least its being ran as you arent being told th file isnt there and you are using the ./ meaning the file is in the pwd
[14:58] <tree88> ActionParsnip: I can read the !/bin/sh script when I do "nano install"
[14:58] <Dr_Willis> Yolarina1:  i thinkl gnome devs or the ubuntui devs decided that icons are only for 'real' things. not actions.
[14:58] <mbeierl> bidossessi: uuid for fstab, sure, but you cannot use anything other than /dev/sdX for partitioning, no?  Is there a better way?
[14:58] <xpo0f> lianimator, i guess becoz im always did it manual
[14:58] <legend2440> Finnish: open synaptic  click on Search and enter  invoice  kraft and gnotime  look like they may be good
[14:58] <Valentina> bidossessi: Well, I don't know, will fdisk somehow damage my file system at /home that uses the sdc1 partition?
[14:58] <lianimator> xpo0f: where is the current config located?
[14:59] <Yolarina1> Dr_Willis: Yes, how do I add them again?
[14:59] <xpo0f> lianimator, /boot/grub/grub.conf
[14:59] <ActionParsnip> tree88: could try: sh ./install
[14:59] <Valentina> bidossessi: Or will fidsk only mess up the fstab?
[14:59] <ampex> guntbert: so how would I go about disabling gdm on boot? update-rc.d or is there another more user friendly tool?
[14:59] <mataks> help pls.. when i upgrade to 9.10 my audio is messen up
[14:59] <Finnish> legend2440, kraft was complaining about QT
[14:59] <xpo0f> lianimator, edit it properly or it wont boot
[14:59] <mataks> !mp3
[14:59] <Vero> iTunes <IP_ADDRESS> stopped
[14:59] <lianimator> xpo0f: thanks
[14:59] <tree88> ActionParsnip: same as before no reply at all
[14:59] <xpo0f> unless u now editing in grub.. gudluck
[14:59] <Dr_Willis> Yolarina1:  short answer.. you dont. Its proberly would need recompiling.,
[14:59] <ActionParsnip> !itunes | Vero
[14:59] <electro> Is it possible to upgrade between LTS versions
[14:59] <legend2440> Finnish: dependency problems?
[15:00] <Yolarina1> Dr_Willis: I want them back!
[15:00] <xpo0f> Yolarina1, what happen
[15:00] <Dr_Willis> Yolarina1:  there was an artical out a few weeks back about how gnome devcs are cleaning up all these extra icons all over the place
[15:00] <ActionParsnip> electro: sure, but the current LTS is hardy
[15:00] <Valentina> mbeierl: xt38 said something about comparing the /proc/partitons and something else to see if I messed the sdc up.
[15:00] <Dr_Willis> Yolarina1:  good luck then.
[15:00] <savid> Hi, I'm not able to get a microphone working through the 3.5mm microphone jack on my laptop.   My sound card is intel HD audio (82801H - ICH8 Family).  It only records sound from my laptop's built-in mic.  How can I fix this?
[15:00] <guntbert> ampex: update-rc, like ikonia already said, I only added the info about "runlevels" :-)
[15:00] <PupenoG> ikonia: any ideas?
[15:00] <ActionParsnip> electro: lucid is the next LTS in april next year
[15:00] <perlsyntax> I got a Hp pavilion dv2125 and i want to put ubuntu on it will it work?
[15:00] <mbeierl> Valentina: ok, so I'm pretty sure that you need to refer to the device by its /dev/sdX name for partitioning and making the filesystem, and sorry - I don't know what to compare /proc/partitions to ... gimme a minute on that
[15:00] <electro> ActionParsnip: ok, so I can upgrade to that when it comes out correct?
[15:00] <perlsyntax> i hope someone can help me.