[19:17] <moultonr> I might be homeschooling my kids in the near future.  Is edubuntu all I need?  It looks like this is geared more toward a computer lab situation, but I'll admit I haven't delved too much into it yet.  Are there just some packages I'd add to a regular ubuntu install to make it the same?
[22:59] <lamefun> Edubuntu should add DRM by default! I know that DRM is often misused by musical giants and holywood, but it could benefit the cuture and scientific progress of humanity greatly: what else could offer to end all school truancy forever?


[12:31] <xu-irc59w> Hi guys, Got a problem with my m570 wireless mouse. It stopped working and I pretty sure it's a ubuntu issue
[12:32] <gnrp> xu-irc59w: I suppose Logitech M570?
[12:32] <xu-irc59w> yep thats the one
[12:33] <gnrp> it's a proprietary wireless protocol though, not bluetooth? All the OS will see is a generic USB device
[12:33] <gnrp> you can check dmesg if it is recognized
[12:33] <gnrp> what could also happen is that the receiver and the trackball disassociate
[12:34] <gnrp> then you would need Windows with the Logitech software to re-couple them, as far as I know
[12:34] <gnrp> xu-irc59w: Do        sudo dmesg | grep Logitech
[12:34] <gnrp> and paste the output
[12:34] <gnrp> !paste
[12:34] <xu-irc59w> it's recognized, and paired , I can even get the bat power
[12:34] <gnrp> oh, ok
[12:34] <gnrp> with Windows?
[12:35] <xu-irc59w> works fine in windows, and I got 2 not working
[12:35] <xu-irc59w> Is ubuntu blocking non encrypted connections?
[12:35] <xu-irc59w> cause my k400 keyboard is working fine
[12:36] <gnrp> xu-irc59w: Ubuntu should not really know anything about the connection anyway
[12:36] <gnrp> xu-irc59w: Is it recognized, though? (run the dmesg command)
[12:36] <xu-irc59w> it knows it's not encrypted
[12:42] <xu-irc59w> working now. reboot might have fixed it.
[12:42] <gnrp> lol, ok^^
[12:42] <xu-irc59w> On a side note, I've been having a poor experance with xubuntu recently
[12:43] <xu-irc59w> quite a few UI hangs and just weird behaviore sometimes
[12:44] <gnrp> xu-irc59w: What kind of behavior is that?
[12:44] <gnrp> I surely cannot really help with that, but there might be others here in the channel
[12:45] <xu-irc59w> like firefox on youtube leaks memory and can lock up the UI
[12:46] <gnrp> xu-irc59w: If you have a memory leak with firefox, you should make a bugreport
[12:48] <xu-irc59w> Going to boot this computer back to xubuntu and see if it's mouse is fixed too, thx for the help o/
[13:30] <dreamon> Hello. Gimp is crashing by copy and paste. Using xubuntu 20.04 it had to do with clipboard manager I found out. but what can I do?
[13:31] <dreamon> On IRC#gimp ->the fix is in Qt, maybe xubuntu wants to backport that into 20.04: https://codereview.qt-project.org/c/qt/qtbase/+/306771
[13:31] <dreamon> Qt told me to tell it on xubuntu.. where can I send a bug for it?
[13:33] <gnrp> !bug
[13:33] <gnrp> dreamon: Definitely makes sense to report a bug for this
[13:34] <gnrp> however, is this a xubuntu or a ubuntu thing?
[13:35] <dreamon> gnrp, I only use xubuntu.. cant tell you
[13:35] <gnrp> I just realize the bot redirects to the general ubuntu bug reporting anyway, so it's also good
[13:35] <dreamon> I use copyq as clipboard manager, but is already use different clipboard manager with same crash to gimp
[13:39] <dreamon> I think is not only a Ubuntu thing -> https://www.gimpusers.com/forums/gimp-user/21012-gimp-crash-on-copy-paste
[13:39] <dreamon> https://askubuntu.com/questions/1291401/gimp-crashed-on-20-04
[13:40] <dreamon> fix is to uninstall clipboard managers.. :(
[14:11] <oerheks> try the latest 'edge' ?? https://snapcraft.io/gimp .. or maybe the stable 21024 is fixed?
[19:33] <knfevg> Hello everybody. I've got over 60 computer running 18.04 LTS i386 build. Is there anyway I can upragde to the latest 20.04 LTS or do I have to do clean installs on all 60 machines?
[19:37] <gnrp> knfevg: (not really helpful) I guess the information on https://wiki.debian.org/CrossGrading helps as much as it can
[19:38] <gnrp> but in general, this operation is very complicated and error-prone.  The chances to spend a lot of time on this are lower with a re-installation than with a migration
[19:41] <knfevg> Hmmm, yes, just scrolled through this and it indeed looks like a brute force solution.... Given these computers have to run an unattanded kiosks, I cannot risk stability or security issues....
[19:41] <gnrp> if this is your concern, then you should surely rather go for a re-installation. You will surely not end up with a "clean" system
[19:42] <knfevg> Ok. What would be a good imaging tool to deploy over 60 computers (basicly making a golden image and than giving out USB sticks to technicians that are very expereinced and they need to boot from the USB to flash the image)?
[19:43] <knfevg> We used to use Macrium but it's pricey....
[19:46] <gnrp> I did not do that for a long time. Back in the days, I used FAI (Fully Automated Install), but I think nowadays one might use different tools


 So I have an Arch install with Plasma now lol.
 TRAITOR!
 Lol I've been on Pop for a while so lol
 @ahoneybun, That is still sorta ubuntu :P


[08:37] <apw> yawn
[08:37] <smb> Coffee!
[08:37] <smb> Reminds me there is some in the Kitchen I forgot to bring with me
[08:38] <RAOF> I *always* do that!
[08:39] <smb> Must be some natures law... :)
[08:44] <jk-> that's to tell you that you need a coffee :)
[08:55] <cooloney> kengyu: around? my FISH man
[09:04] <kengyu> cooloney, anything can I help, guess we move to hwe?
[10:03] <kraut> moin
[12:38] <apw> https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux
[12:47] <lag> apw: https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/lucid/+package/linux-image-2.6.32-22-generic
[12:48] <apw> https://edge.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-security/+archive/ppa/+build/1770776/+files/linux-image-2.6.32-22-generic-pae_2.6.32-22.36_i386.deb
[13:26] <pgraner> apw: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/461105/
[14:11] <lag> ubuntu-2.6$ addr2line -f -e debian/build/build-omap/vmlinux bf1baad0
[14:11] <lag> ??
[14:11] <lag> ??:0
[14:11] <lag> apw --^
[14:44] <Flek74> Hello Ubuntu-Developers!
[14:44] <Flek74> I have a problem on my Ubuntu 10.04
[14:46] <JFo> Flek74, is it kernel related and have you opened a bug?
[14:46] <Flek74> I already opened an issue on launchpad
[14:47] <JFo> ok, what is the bug number?
[14:47] <Flek74> maybe it is kernel related, maybe not
[14:48] <Flek74> ok it's bug 581847
[14:48] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 581847 in linux (Ubuntu) "system crash after changing power supply (affects: 1) (heat: 69)" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/581847
[14:49] <Flek74> with my probook 6545b
[14:50] <Flek74> I already tried to install the ubuntu mainline kernel
[14:52] <Flek74> It's running, with the restriction, that W-LAN isn't working anymore because it's a Broadcom device
[14:56] <Flek74> I know how to develop in C/C++, therefore I already tried to locate the bug.
[14:57] <Flek74> But it is very difficult if you didn't do anything on the kernel so far.
[15:11] <JFo> this looks like something in the power control area of the kernel perhaps.
[15:12] <marco74> I also thought about this
[15:12] <JFo> I've tagged it as such and will ask about it when manoj gets in to see what he thinks
[15:12] <marco74> i already tried to compile some kernel.org-kernles
[15:12] <marco74> thank you
[15:13] <JFo> no problem
[15:13] <JFo> did you try the mainline builds?
[15:14] <marco74> 2.6.31, 2.6.32. 2.6.33
[15:15] <marco74> also 2.6.34 from the website you meantioned
[15:15] <JFo> any difference in behavior?
[15:15] <marco74> yes
[15:16] <marco74> 2.6.31 work, with problems in graphics and sound
[15:16] <JFo> would you mind describing the difference and which kernel it was in on the bug?
[15:16] <JFo> that way all who look at it can see what progression there is
[15:16] <marco74> you mean on lauchpad?
[15:16] <JFo> yes, please :)
[15:16] <marco74> ok I'll do that
[15:17] <JFo> thank you
[15:17] <marco74> the tests with the kernel.org kernel result was that all 2.6.32 kernels do not work
[15:18] <marco74> Therefore I also tried 2.6.31 and 2.6.32-rc*
[15:18] <JFo> I suspect that may be due to missing ubuntu configs that are in the mainline builds
[15:19] <marco74> I used make localmodconfig
[15:19] <marco74> then i set the option with the SATA-Driver from module to an asterisk * that I was able to boot from it
[15:20] <marco74> because the initrd option on make-kpkg doesn't work
[15:25] <JFo> add that information to the bug as well please, that is good to know.
[15:47] <jcrigby> apw: ping?
[15:47] <apw> hi
[15:48] <jcrigby> apw: I've been reading the AbstractedDebian wiki page and have some questions
[15:49] <jcrigby> apw:I'm doing the packaging for the linaro kernel
[15:50] <jcrigby> and one possibility would be to follow the directions for creating my own branch, but I really want my debian.linaro to track debian.master so copying seems like it will create more work in the long run
[15:51] <bjf> pgraner, http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~bradf/table.html (still needs work and data specific to 'linux')
[15:52] <tgardner> jcrigby, the point of the abstracted debian is that your debian.linaro branch should contain nothing more then configs, control.d flavour files, and ABIs
[15:53] <tgardner> everything else should be in debian
[15:53] <pgraner> bjf: looking good very interesting results
[15:54] <jcrigby> tgardner:yes, I realize that
[15:55] <tgardner> jcrigby, so, what is it in debian.master that you wish to track?
[15:56] <jcrigby> tgardner:as I look at the branch history it seems like the debian.master changes as often as the actual content so it seems a shame to redo that for debian.linaro
[15:57] <tgardner> jcrigby, mostly config changes I assume ?
[15:57] <jcrigby> tgardner:I think my actual problem is having no experience with the actual release process
[15:58] <jcrigby> tgarder:and the abi changes
[15:58] <tgardner> jcrigby, there are likely a lot of changelog and ABI noise that don't really have any relevance to Linaro
[15:58] <tgardner> the only stuff that might be relevant are config changes
[15:59] <jcrigby> tgarder:yes, so I will stop over thinking this and go ahead and make my branch and go from there
[15:59] <tgardner> jcrigby, we'd be happy to review one you have something in place
[15:59] <tgardner> once*
[15:59] <jcrigby> tgardner:great, thanks
[15:59] <smoser> hey all. I'm wondering what the suggested way of avoiding building a ramdisk would be.
[16:00] <smoser> It appears that setting 'ramdisk = /bin/true' in kernel-img.conf will work.
[16:01] <BenC> smoser: I'm pretty sure do_initrd = false in that same file will do it
[16:01] <smoser> and, building on that, my guess is I can specify something that would wrap /usr/sbin/update-initramfs , not invoking it if the version based on some criteria.
[16:01] <apw> jcrigby, ok am in a meeting now for a bit
[16:01] <jcrigby> apw:tgardner stepped in and helped me
[16:02] <jcrigby> no more questions for now
[16:07] <smoser> BenC, no. it has no effect.  neither that, nor ramdisk is documented in man pages installed by kernel-package
[16:07] <smoser> but going based on http://www.tin.org/bin/man.cgi?section=5&topic=kernel-img.conf
[16:09] <BenC> smoser: interesting...the kernel postinst checks that do_initrd value but never uses it :-/
[16:09] <BenC> sounds like a bug
[16:09] <smoser> yeah. i think its just old.
[16:10] <smoser> but that link, the documentation doesn't even suggest that this indicates whether or not a ramdiks will be built. but rather only about silencing a warning.
[16:17] <BenC> smoser: do_initrd is supposed to do this
[16:18] <smoser> well, even then, i'd like to do it based on criteria. and a global boolean wouldn't suffice.
[16:19] <BenC> smoser: you can also do something like:
[16:19] <BenC> sudo dpkg-divert --local --divert /usr/sbin/update-initramfs.orig --add /usr/sbin/update-initramfs
[16:19] <BenC> sudo ln -s /bin/true /usr/sbin/update-initramfs
[16:19] <BenC> but that's pretty hard core
[16:20] <smoser> with the update-initramfs wrapper, i can check kernel characteristics of the specific kernel
[16:20] <maks_> we don't support !initramfs, as going down that road lots of things break
[16:20] <smoser> maks_, thats not true.
[16:20] <maks_> no UUID, fun with latest md
[16:20] <maks_> smoser: you  know nothing.
[16:21] <BenC> maks_: it should be supported on VM's and chroots
[16:21] <smoser> well, i know that a.) no initrd does function b.) things that break it are considered bugs and are fixed c.) we have supported images without ramdisks.
[16:21] <maks_> no Ubuntu has never supported that.
[16:21] <maks_> it happened to work.
[16:22] <BenC> maks_: regardless of ubuntu supporting it, he wants to do it, and that's his choice
[16:22] <maks_> sure if he wants to shoot in his foot I won't give him a gun for that
[16:22] <BenC> There's tons of reasons outside of your limited scope that could warrant disabling ramdisk generation
[16:22] <smoser> as for "supported", it was a feature added to lucid EC2 and UEC images.  they ship without a ramdisk.
[16:22] <BenC> maks_: then shut it, and let me talk to him
[16:23] <jpds> Is there another around who can help me with an ACPI issue on a Toshiba laptop? (http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1473317)
[16:23] <BenC> smoser: exactly...I use EC2 that doesn't have ramdisk support as well
[16:24] <smoser> (well, it does have ramdisk support, but we chose not to use ramdisks there for both speed and maintainance reasons)
[16:24] <maks_> lol
[16:24] <maks_> BenC: good.
[16:25]  * BenC is anti gun control
[16:26] <BenC> let 'em all have guns
[16:26] <warewolf> guns don't kill people, apes with guns kill people
[16:27] <TeTeT> how do I get a current or past ABI file for my kernel to be compiled in a PPA? See http://launchpadlibrarian.net/51628419/buildlog_ubuntu-lucid-i386.linux_2.6.32-24.38~lvm0_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz for details
[16:27] <BenC> TeTeT: you should just always bump the ABI in a PPA build
[16:28] <BenC> TeTeT: and maybe set the var that disables ABI checking
[16:28] <TeTeT> BenC: how to do that?
[16:28] <BenC> abi_check=false?
[16:28] <smoser> BenC, well, it looks to me like the only functional way to do this is via 'ramdisk ='.  i went looking once before (possibly lucid time frame) and saw the 'do_initrd', and believe that then it still had no affect.
[16:28] <BenC> Can't remember, but it's in debian/rules.d/0-* IIRC
[16:29] <BenC> smoser: I'd file a bug...kernel-img.conf should either honor do_initrd or remove it from existence
[16:29] <smoser> well, its not documented in the man page
[16:29] <smoser> and ignored in the post install scripts
[16:30] <smoser> so, other than a useless variable name in a post install script, its gone from existance.
[16:30] <maks_> kernel-img.conf is disappearing
[16:31] <maks_> it is a vestige from kernel-package times as you'd know BenC
[16:32] <smoser> maks_, would you care to share what it is being replaced with ?
[16:32] <maks_> why would I as you know everything smoser
[16:34] <smoser> well, for others in the room of course.  maybe if I admit to my non-omnipotence
[16:38] <jjohansen> apw: you doing the status meeting?
[16:39] <apw> jjohansen, have already done kernel yes
[16:39] <apw> jjohansen, though you could talk me through where we are with AA and EC2 plan wise
[16:40] <smoser> seriously, i'm not intending to be rude, but would like to know what the best solution to this.
[16:40] <jjohansen> apw: already :(
[16:41] <BenC> smoser: sounds like a hack is in order since kernel-img.conf is broken and doesn't seem to have a plan to be fixed
[16:42] <smoser> well, even if it were functioning properly, it wouldn't get me what i'm interested in.
[16:42] <smoser> i'd like to disable ramdisk creation, and then consumption by grub, on a per-kernel basis.
[16:43] <smoser> but ideally, i'd like to do so in a way that will continue to work in the future.
[16:44] <jjohansen> apw: AA just pulling together patches and updates, I have some test kernels for Bug #599450, Bug #581525 that I am testing and will push out for verification, I also need to test the userside component for Bug #581525, basically I am trying to pull together my next submission today
[16:44] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 599450 in linux (Ubuntu Maverick) (and 1 other project) "[apparmor] getattr handled incorrectly in 2.6.35-6.7 (affects: 3) (dups: 2) (heat: 457)" [High,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/599450
[16:44] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 581525 in apparmor (Ubuntu) "Lucid: system becomes unstable randomly, seems related with apparmor (affects: 4) (heat: 89)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/581525
[16:45] <jjohansen> apw: EC2, I got a nive little email from amazon about pv-ops and hope to kick off a test build of a new pv-ops kernel this morning
[16:46] <apw> jjohansen, sounds about what i wrote :)  excellent
[16:46] <apw> hows the upstreaming looking?
[16:46] <apw> any sign of it getting into security tree?
[16:47] <jjohansen> apw: well I am hopeful
[16:47] <jjohansen> it should be soon
[16:48] <jjohansen> basically I am hoping before sprint, quick turn around next week if needed type of thing
[16:49] <BenC> smoser: sounds like you will have to divert update-initramfs and replace it with a wrapper that checks your own config file...put that in a package, and you have something that works pretty well for your usage
[16:50] <pgraner> jjohansen: sooner is better
[16:52] <jjohansen> pgraner: ack
[17:01] <kees> apw: did you get a chance to look at my i915 fix?  it's really trivial, but would let me actually boot a maverick kernel again...
[17:01] <apw> sorry no that i recall
[17:08] <tgardner> kees, you got some heat about the constant. did you ever reconcile that with upstream?
[17:09] <kees> tgardner: upstream wants a perfect fix; but it _was_ a constant in all versions prior.
[17:09] <kees> tgardner: this just unbreaks it without re-breaking the piece they fixed for other hardware
[17:10] <tgardner> kees, well, you're so good at windmill tilting lately, why don't you have a go at them about it ?
[17:10] <kees> tgardner: I have for weeks, they're just ignoring me.
[17:10] <tgardner> kees, ok, I'll have a look at it.
[17:10] <kees> tgardner: but as it stands, it's a regression, and the fix is insanely trivial.
[17:11] <tgardner> kees, I agree, but wanted to make it did not in turn introduce a regression
[17:11] <tgardner> make sure*
[17:13] <kees> tgardner: right, understood.  if you look at the patch, it replaces two sets of constants (for G33 and non-G33) with autodetection magic.  the intent was to fix this for the non-G33 case, which is nice and all, but they _added_ autodetection for G33 that is not needed and is wrong.  So by making the G33 case static again, it fixes the regression they introduced without re-breaking the non-G33 case they fixed.
[17:13] <kees> http://git.kernel.org/?p=linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux-2.6.git;a=commitdiff;h=f1befe71fa7a79ab733011b045639d8d809924ad
[17:13] <kees> it was this:
[17:13] <kees> int gtt_map_size = 256 * 1024;
[17:13] <kees> if (IS_G33)
[17:13] <kees>     gtt_map_size = 1024 * 1024; /* 1M on G33 */
[17:14] <kees> now it's:
[17:14] <kees> gtt_map_size = intel_i915_get_gtt_size();
[17:14] <kees> and if you look in that new function, the G33 case is what's regressed.
[17:14] <apw> kess, the only thing thats odd is you leave in the autodetect login
[17:15] <kees> apw: I'm happy to remove it.
[17:15] <kees> I just want to boot maverick again.  :P
[17:16] <tgardner> kees, refresh my memory on where your patch is?
[17:17] <tgardner> its on the k-t list, right?
[17:17] <kees> yup
[17:17] <kees> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/kernel-team/2010-July/011457.html
[17:19] <tgardner> kees, well, that just slams the previous calculation of size. what is your gmch_ctrl for that device? It looks like there is a missing case.
[17:20] <kees> tgardner: mine reports 2M, which is wrong because half is a shadow gtt.  upstream said, "yeah 1M is correct.  gee, we should find someone that knows the hardware better"
[17:20] <kees> tgardner: see https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16294
[17:20] <ubot2> bugzilla.kernel.org bug 16294 in Video(DRI - Intel) "[Q35 bisected] hang at init of i915 driver" [High,New]
[17:20] <tgardner> ah, I remember taht now.
[17:22] <kees> tgardner, apw: here's a new patch that throws the entire auto-detect section out: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/kernel-team/2010-July/011575.html
[17:23] <tgardner> kees, how old is this laptop? it must be approaching 3 years
[17:24] <tgardner> I wonder if there is a way to quirk this on sub-vendor ID ?
[17:24] <kees> tgardner: this is not my laptop; it's my all-Intel primary desktop.  A very common Q35 motherboard.
[17:24] <kees> tgardner: my Dell laptop with the ATI issues I gave up on.
[17:25] <kees> http://www.google.com/search?client=ubuntu&channel=fs&q=intel+q35
[17:25] <tgardner> well, I thought the i810 was dead. little did I know...
[17:26] <kees> it's not i810.  I wish it was -- then I'd have a built-in RNG.
[17:26] <kees> tgardner: anyway, the issue isn't trying to do the calculation correctly (I'll leave that to upstream to figure out), it's to get rid of a regression.
[17:27] <tgardner> kees, well, lemme study it. I might be able to do both.
[17:28] <kees> tgardner: could you maybe study it after fixing the regression?  I can't test any maverick kernels without rebuilding them first.  :P
[17:28] <kees> the gtt size for G33 has been 1M since the beginning of time.
[17:28] <tgardner> I promise I'll either find a solution or implement your patch today. OK?
[17:29]  * kees hugs tgardner
[17:29] <kees> tgardner: thanks!  I've literally spent days tracking this down and trying to get it fixed.
[17:46] <tgardner> apw, does ureadahead run on every boot cycle?
[17:51] <apw> tgardner, yes only recording when the pack is missing
[17:52] <apw> which is cleaned up by any updated to 'main' or somethign in dpkg
[17:56] <tgardner> apw, I guess I'm not clear on if it even loads if the pack is not missing.
[17:57] <apw> if the pack is missing then it runs in learn about the system mode and and uses ftrace
[17:57] <apw> otherwise it just uses the pack to load things
[17:57] <tgardner> apw, so it loads in either casem which means tracing gets enabled.
[18:01] <apw> hrm, ok ... not so hot
[18:02]  * bjf running an errand, biab
[18:16] <tgardner> kees, you running amd64 I assume?
[18:38] <kees> tgardner: yeah
[18:39] <tgardner> kees, k, I'll have a test kernel in a bit. the dope that coded this used the wrong macros
[18:39] <tgardner> I think.
[18:39] <kees> tgardner: wrong macros?
[18:39] <tgardner> I'll reply to the m-l with my patch.
[18:45] <JFo> <-lunch
[18:50]  * apw cracks a cold one ... its tooo hot to concentrate here
[18:50] <tgardner> kees, tangerine.buildd:kern/maverick/kern-64/linux-image-2.6.35-7-generic_2.6.35-7.12_amd64.deb
[18:51] <tgardner> server will be up soon
[18:51]  * bjf is back
[19:03] <cking> apw, you are making me drool
[19:03]  * cking has things to attend to. Have a good weekend
[19:07]  * gnarl makes final uploads while reaching half of his cold one
[19:14] <tgardner-lunch> kees, tangerine.buildd:kern/maverick/kern-64/linux-image-2.6.35-7-server_2.6.35-7.12_amd64.deb
[20:32] <jjohansen> -> Lunch
[20:37] <mpoirier> git bisect start
[20:37] <mpoirier> git bisect good v2.6.35-rc4
[20:37] <mpoirier> git bisect bad v2.6.35-rc3
[20:40] <tgardner> mpoirier, git log v2.6.35-rc3.. -- arch/arm/
[21:23] <kees> tgardner: booting it now...
[21:32] <kees> tgardner: \o/ it worked!  :)
[21:32] <tgardner> kees, cool
[21:34] <tgardner> kees, can I add your tested-by ?
[22:52]  * jjohansen heads for a walk, back on in a bit


[21:56] <jacoblyles> when I try to use a thumb drive, I get an error message: Can't mount volume - you are not privileged to mount the volume. Anyone know how to fix this?
[21:57] <UbuntuNewb> how do I use lmsensor then?
[21:57] <pc> jacoblyles: it won't automount?
[21:57] <jacoblyles> pc: no
[21:57] <ActionParsnip> UbuntuNewb: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2780
[21:57] <koolkartik> ActionParsnip: i didn't get that .... u mean i hav to take a kernel and place it into my boot directory  :( (dont have any idea of this)
[21:58] <darkpixel> trone: i use SSH instead of FTP, once you login, you see the whole computer and if the user logged has permisssions, it will have access to copy / move / remove anything. And under encryption.
[21:58] <pc> jacoblyles: did you try sudo?
[21:58] <ActionParsnip> koolkartik: no you download all the debs that make up a kernel and install them all
[21:58] <ActionParsnip> koolkartik: then boot to it
[21:58] <amgarchIn9> OT: any idea if errout(char *) was/is some standard error handling function in any unix? Grepping /usr/include does not produce anything
[21:58] <dries_> how do you lauch computertemp commandline-wise?
[21:59] <koolkartik> ActionParsnip: : from where shall i downlosd all those debs ..
[21:59] <genii> dries_: Probably:  sensors
[22:00] <rww> !lm-sensors | dries_
[22:00] <joanki123> can anyone suggest a tv tuner compatible with ubuntu?
[22:00] <ActionParsnip> koolkartik: thats where aptoncd comes in, you can download the necessary debs and put them on a removable medium or in this case the windows system if you can acces the host system)
[22:00] <psicobra> hi all any one able to help me with the moonlight plugin it says it's installed but it doesnt work
[22:00] <polgdb> hi everybody ..any dude .is posible install ubuntu kernel server into of ubuntu deskop?
[22:00] <ActionParsnip> !hcl | joanki123
[22:00] <trone> darkpixel, great idea i use that on my ipod. just what i need to quickly grabfiles from this down server
[22:00] <loquitus_of_bor1> Should I remove pulse audio? My sound is so incredibly flaky
[22:00] <ActionParsnip> poing__: sure, you wont gain much though
[22:01] <ActionParsnip> poing__: apt-cache search linux server
[22:01] <joanki123> sweet!
[22:01] <joanki123> thanks!
[22:01] <trone> darkpixel, o yea im trying to get them from xp
[22:01] <rww> polgdb: Yeah. install the "linux-server" package.
[22:01] <ActionParsnip> poing__: what do you expect to gain?
[22:01] <just_> hello
[22:02] <jacoblyles> pc: sorry, had to step away for a second. I have not yet tried to use sudo to manually mount it. This would not necessarily be ideal as I have a large number of storage devices and would not like to write down/remember a command to use each one. Moreover, the USB drive does auto-mount on another computer I have
[22:02] <koolkartik> ActionParsnip: i know about the necessary debs and their downloading and i can access ubuntu foder using windows
[22:02] <darkpixel> trone: you mean a SSH client with SCP support for Xp? i used in the past one called WinSCP
[22:02] <guntbert> dries_: computertemp brings an applet for the panel
[22:02] <polgdb> really? sure i can get up in grub ?
[22:02] <trone> wow i dont really care anymore
[22:02] <ActionParsnip> koolkartik: then boot to recovery root console and install them with dpkg
[22:02] <Ghoti_> trone: the PuTTY suite includes an SCP client. There's also Filezilla
[22:03] <koolkartik> ActionParsnip: its not booting only memtest86 begins :(
[22:03] <dries_> i installed computertemp package, but computertemp is not recognized on the command line after that... I thought i need to use another name, but the official website disagrees
[22:03] <mib_v1u5fk> How can I connect to a *secure* WLAN using the command line?
[22:03] <mib_v1u5fk> WPA specifically
[22:04] <joanki123> ActionParsnip, all of the "versions" are old.... why?
[22:04] <ActionParsnip> koolkartik: then press esc to show the grub menu
[22:04] <joanki123> does that mean newer op systems don't support them?
[22:04] <usser> mib_v1u5fk, man wpa_supplicant
[22:04] <trone> good ideas i just dont wanna install anything ill just boot a cd in there
[22:04] <joanki123> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaHauppauge
[22:04] <koolkartik> yeah i did that also inthat also there is only memtest and other option for my windows boot
[22:05] <koolkartik> ActionParsnip: yeah i did that also inthat also there is only memtest and other option for my windows boot
[22:05] <guja> E: /var/cache/apt/archives/mysql-server-5.0_5.1.30really5.0.75-0ubuntu10_i386.deb: subprocess pre-installation script returned error exit status 1
[22:05] <guja> Keeps saying me that.
[22:05] <guja> I can't remove that pkg with synaptic.
[22:05] <SuspectZero> is there a way to configure the clock through CLI?
[22:05] <ActionParsnip> joanki123: what i do is pretend i have a card that not working and see if there is a guide to get it working
[22:06] <LjL> SuspectZero: "man date"
[22:06] <Ghoti_> SuspectZero: 'date'
[22:06] <polgdb> how i can see video in linux server ?
[22:06] <LjL> SuspectZero: although the clock in ubuntu is usually set remotely
[22:06] <SuspectZero> kk thanks
[22:06] <ActionParsnip> joanki123: if lotsa people say "hey, this works out of the box in <whatever>" its usually a good choice
[22:06] <mib_v1u5fk> usser: Okay. I was trying to use iwconfig
[22:06] <joanki123> ActionParsnip, if the ad for the product says that it works with linux, is it a safe bet it works on 8.04?
[22:06] <lsbrum> How the correct permission for /home, /home/user and /home/user/public_html running lighttpd?
[22:06] <ActionParsnip> polgdb: mplayer can run without an x server
[22:06] <ActionParsnip> joanki123: sure
[22:07] <ActionParsnip> joanki123: also check the tv cards advertised at www.efficientpc.co.uk
[22:07] <mib_v1u5fk> It was connecting but I couldn't get an IP address.
[22:07] <polgdb> ah ok
[22:07] <joanki123> k
[22:07] <trone> lol i spilt juice on my laptop yesterday in the middle of install gentoo and thats why im in this stupid situation
[22:07] <usser> mib_v1u5fk, for wpa you need more than iwconfig
[22:07] <pc> jacoblyles: next thing I'd do if automount didn't work would be to look in /var/log/messages for an explanation or clues
[22:07] <trone> installing on the server
[22:08] <usser> mib_v1u5fk, man wpa_supplicant.conf has some examples
[22:08] <lsbrum> How the correct permission for /home, /home/user and /home/user/public_html running lighttpd? 700? 703? 704?
[22:08] <usser> mib_v1u5fk, something like that
[22:08] <pc> SuspectZero: there's also hwclock, depending on what you're trying to do
[22:09] <SuspectZero> pc, i got it using the date command
[22:09] <SuspectZero> thanks alot
[22:09] <koolkartik> ActionParsnip i am getting abit of what u r sying n i have donloaded aptoncd... now can u help me further
[22:09] <SuspectZero> date --set=arugument :)
[22:09] <rpaddock> When installing ubuntu, has anyone run into an issue with custom partitions being ignored and put into /target instead?
[22:09] <euthymos> hi
[22:09] <rpaddock> Like /target/home, etc..
[22:09] <euthymos> how can I inspect the library dependencies of an executable?
[22:09] <usser> mib_v1u5fk, save it somewhere, my_network.conf and run wpa_supplicant on it with wpa_supplicant -d -c my_network.conf
[22:09] <mib_v1u5fk> usser: Yeah, I'm looking at it now. Thanks. I wanted to connect to the internet an update Xmonad before I kill Gnome.
[22:09] <Ghoti_> rpaddock:  while you're installing, /target is the mountpoint for your hard drive that you're installing ot
[22:10] <Ghoti_> rpaddock: /target/home will be /home once the install is complete.
[22:10] <ActionParsnip> koolkartik: ive not used it, read the guide and it will help
[22:10] <polgdb> is posible burn discs in linux server?
[22:10] <rpaddock> Ghoti_: Ahh, gotcha. It does error out towards the very end.. I'm guessing that's why it's like that.
[22:10] <ActionParsnip> polgdb: sure is
[22:10] <Ghoti_> !info cdrecord | polgdb
[22:10] <guntbert> euthymos: ldd <file>
[22:10] <lsbrum> How the correct permission for /home, /home/user and /home/user/public_html running lighttpd?
[22:10] <jacoblyles> pc: when I try to mount as superuser, It tells me "NTFS signature is missing \n Failed to mount '/dev/sdb1': invalid argument \n The device '/dev/sdb1' doesn't have a valid NTFS \n Maybe you selected the wrong device? or the whole disk instead of a partition (e.g. /dev/hda, not /dev/hda1)? Or the other way around?
[22:10] <Sqrt[i]> my mouse scrolls too fast. any way to change the speed of the wheel? like the num of lines it scolls?
[22:11] <ActionParsnip> polgdb: http://sharkysoft.com/tutorials/linuxtips/cdcommands/
[22:11] <polgdb> ok,thanks
[22:11] <koolkartik> ActionParsnip: ok i'll try that thnx
[22:11] <guja> PLEASE HELP: E: /var/cache/apt/archives/mysql-server-5.0_5.1.30really5.0.75-0ubuntu10_i386.deb: subprocess pre-installation script returned error exit status 1
[22:11] <guja>  Synaptic wont delete file, won't repair it, won't do anything about it. It keeps reporting error sign in system tray in gnome panel. What am I supposed to do??
[22:11] <euthymos> guntbert: great
[22:12] <ActionParsnip> guja: sudo apt-get clean
[22:12] <euthymos> guntbert: thanx
[22:12] <guntbert> euthymos: glad to help
[22:12] <guja> ActionParsnip, E: Could not get lock /var/cache/apt/archives/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[22:12] <guja> E: Unable to lock the download directory
[22:12] <polgdb> client irc for linux server ?
[22:12] <ActionParsnip> guja: do you have synaptic still open
[22:13] <ActionParsnip> polgdb: irssi
[22:13] <ActionParsnip> !info irssi
[22:13] <guja> ActionParsnip, I'm idiot, sry, didn't notice. :-)
[22:14] <pc> jacoblyles: same key mounts ok elsewhere?  that's quite odd.../var/log/messages present any clues?
[22:14] <mib_61ad3or6> hi, windows 7 killed grub with an update. how can i restore it? I tried find /boot/grub/stage1 but i got error 15: File not found
[22:14] <ActionParsnip> !grub
[22:14] <guja> ActionParsnip, didn't help.
[22:14] <polgdb> totem is working in linux server?
[22:14] <jacoblyles> pc: figured it out. I had trouble with another drive and edited my fstab file to try to get it to mount. I deleted that line from my fstab file, and the thumb drive works well.
[22:14] <ActionParsnip> !fixapt
[22:15] <guntbert> guja: silly question: you did sudo?
[22:15] <Fenhrill> !sudo
[22:15] <euthymos> 2nd question!!
[22:15] <guja> ActionParsnip, guntbert http://nopaste.ns-linux.org/?YmVhZj
[22:15] <euthymos> what is the package needed to run qt apps
[22:16] <DigitalKiwi> qt?
[22:16] <euthymos> yes
[22:16] <euthymos> there are bunch of packages
[22:16] <DigitalKiwi> such as
[22:16] <pc> libqt?
[22:16] <guntbert> !qt | euthymos
[22:16] <mib_61ad3or6> ActionParsnip, find /grub/stage1 nor /boot/grub/stage1 works
[22:16] <sah-work> anyone have any issues with sound not working the lastest beta
[22:17] <DigitalKiwi> ubuntu names it libqt?
[22:17] <DigitalKiwi> fail
[22:17] <euthymos> the bot suggested to install developement packages
[22:17] <euthymos> what are the ones just for run the apps?
[22:17] <pc> DigitalKiwi: ignore me and see ubottu, above
[22:17] <tgunr> I have been reading the page for firestarter and can't find how to
[22:17] <tgunr> chnage logging level
[22:17] <DigitalKiwi> i didn't feel like typing the whole name
[22:18] <UbuntuNewb> any ubuntu security expert here?
[22:18] <DigitalKiwi> the whole name is even worse
[22:18] <tgunr> my syslog is being flodded with firewall events
[22:18] <UbuntuNewb> I really need someone to talk to..
[22:18] <jpds> UbuntuNewb: You might want to try #ubuntu-hardened.
[22:18] <UbuntuNewb> ok
[22:18] <UbuntuNewb> thnx
[22:18] <mib_61ad3or6> can anyone help me with grub? both find commands the wiki says to use produces an error 15
[22:18] <ActionParsnip> euthymos: if you install an app that needs qt it will be installed for you
[22:19] <euthymos> there's no package
[22:19] <euthymos> is a test application
[22:19] <enzotib> mib_61ad3or6: are you using sudo?
[22:19] <ActionParsnip> euthymos: sudo dpkg -i <name>; sudo apt-get -f install will install the required stuff
[22:19] <mib_61ad3or6> enzotib: yeah i'm using sudo
[22:19] <Bert_2> Hi, how do I make a program autostart for just one user and not for the others ?
[22:20] <euthymos> there's no package
[22:20] <AciD> I installed 8.04 on my sasung NC10 and had no major problem. for 3 weeks now (approximatively), I can't suspend anymore. I checked the dmesg logs and spotted a possible error message regarding the "eviocgbit problem". I tried with another kernel, same pb. I tried deinstalling synaptics, still. Anyone got a solutino for this suspend pb on 8.04 ?
[22:20] <enzotib> euthymos: you can run it through auto-apt
[22:20] <xangua> Bert_2: in Gnome go to Sys> Prefs> Sessions
[22:20] <euthymos> thank you guys
[22:21] <euthymos> but I was just wondering on what is the package to run QT apps on ubuntu
[22:21] <euthymos> just suppose I'm releasing the package for that app
[22:21] <milen> hi guys
[22:21] <xangua> euthymos: what is the problem with QT apps¿
[22:21] <euthymos> I am the package creator, OK. What are the dependencies to declare?
[22:21] <xangua> you can use it in Gnome ass well
[22:21] <vocx> euthymos, something like kde-libs will install required qt libraries and more, maybe libqt will install only the essential QT libraries.
[22:21] <DigitalKiwi> !language
[22:22] <mib_61ad3or6> do i have to reinstall? I can't find grub
[22:22] <bach> hi i'm having problems making changes to my screen resolution on nvidia anyone able to help.
[22:22] <euthymos> vocx: i'll test libqt
[22:22] <grendal_prime> im trying to record sound from my music player and my desktop in recordmydesktop.  I can record sound from the mic, but not from the mp3 player...anyone what im doing wrong?
[22:22] <milen> have anyone had issues with starting 1) nautilus 2) sound-juicer while there's CD in?
[22:22] <ActionParsnip> bach: gksudo nvidia-settings
[22:22] <euthymos> there's no libt
[22:22] <euthymos> libqt
[22:23] <Bert_2> xangua:  Sys> Prefs> Sessions is not user specific, it's global
[22:23] <ActionParsnip> euthymos: apt-cache search qt | grep lib
[22:23] <DigitalKiwi> milen: I have heard of such issue
[22:23] <DigitalKiwi> I believe I even had it
[22:23] <saurabh1403> hello everyone....how can I download a full version of ubuntu which includes most of the packages....I need to install it on a PC where no internet facility is present at the moment
[22:23] <xangua> is not for  ALL USERS
[22:23]  * DigitalKiwi uses pcmanfm ;D
[22:23] <bach> ActionParsnip: do you know why this is.
[22:23] <xangua> Bert_2: that is your user configuration
[22:23] <ActionParsnip> DigitalKiwi: its awesome
[22:23] <pc> euthymos: $ ldd <app> will tell you which libs you depend on
[22:23] <Ghoti_> !offline > saurabh1403
[22:23] <xangua> Saruji: you can download (K)(X)Ubuntu DVD
[22:23] <Bert_2> xangua: FAFAIK it's for all users, I'll have a look
[22:24] <euthymos> pc: yeah but packages have different names, there are nice metapackages
[22:24] <vocx> euthymos, remember that libraries usually have versions, so it's probably libqt-3.5 or something. You should search before "aptitude search lib qt"
[22:24] <ActionParsnip> bach: that app is for setting res with the nvidia driver
[22:24] <pc> dpkg -S <filename> will tell you the package name
[22:24] <euthymos> I've found libqtcore4 and libqtgui4
[22:24] <root1> hello
[22:24] <euthymos> I think they do the trick but strange there's not a metapackage
[22:24] <milen> DigitalKiwi, what could you advise?
[22:24] <saurabh1403> Ghoti_: thanks  :)
[22:25] <bach> cheers
[22:25] <Ghoti_> saurabh1403: anytime
[22:25] <DigitalKiwi> using pcmanfm ;)
[22:25] <root1> help my, search mkmf
[22:25] <pc> euthymos: the metapackage is probably "kde"
[22:25] <euthymos> too large
[22:25] <pc> yeah
[22:25] <euthymos> however I don't want to bug you with this
[22:25] <aniasis> hello my wireless is not working
[22:25] <aniasis> and when I enter ifconfig wlan0 up
[22:25] <euthymos> I think libqtcore4 and libqtgui4 are fine, but I expected a nice metapackage
[22:25] <root1> ayyyyyyyy
[22:26] <aniasis> I get siocsifflags: No such file or directory
[22:26] <vocx> euthymos, I suggest checking out a very simple program's dependencies. Something small that is done is QT. But beware, if it is part of the whole KDE it will try to install KDE specific libraries too.
[22:26] <root1> ja z Ua
[22:26] <TheFunkbomb> aniasis, try sudo ifconfig wlan0 up
[22:26] <root1> help my
[22:26] <milen> so, you believe that nautilus is actually the reason DigitalKiwi?
[22:26] <euthymos> vocx: maybe Skype
[22:26] <root1> search mfmf
[22:26] <Ghoti_> ActionParsnip: You seen to have nvidia-fu, perhaps you can assist me with this-  I have a box that will do 1280x1024 on a normal CRT monitor, but will not go above 640x480 on an HDTV that I know will do 1280x1024 (my mac works just fine)- how can I force a specific resolution?
[22:26] <root1> mkmf*
[22:26] <root1> not X
[22:26] <euthymos> vocx: I'll uncompress their package :D
[22:26] <DigitalKiwi> I don't remember the specifics of the issue
[22:26] <mib_61ad3or6> find /boot/grub/stage1  Error 15: File not found
[22:26] <DigitalKiwi> but try it with a different manager
[22:27] <vocx> euthymos, I believe there is no such metapackage. Might be a good idea suggesting it to packagers. Although that should be taken care of in debian.
[22:27] <milen> got it
[22:27] <mib_61ad3or6> find /grub/stage1  Error 15: File not found
[22:27] <ActionParsnip> Ghoti_: have you installed the nvidia driver?
[22:27] <milen> appriciate it ;)
[22:27] <root1> milem help my, ok?
[22:27] <DigitalKiwi> and if it works then well the problem is probably with nautilus
[22:27] <aniasis> it doesn't even show my wireless card as a device
[22:27] <pc> mib_61ad3or6: find /boot -name stage1
[22:28] <TheFunkbomb> anias, what happens when you ifconfig?  Pastebin it here.  As well iwconfig
[22:28] <macman_> crazy question for you
[22:28] <Ghoti_> ActionParsnip: yes, the problem developed when I moved the computer to the HDTV. As I mentioned, on a CRT it works perfectly
[22:28] <milen> so do you prefer that file manager?
[22:28] <DigitalKiwi> yes
[22:29] <Davide> Hi does anyone run MythTV?
[22:29] <root1> DigitalKiwi help my, ok?
[22:29] <macman_> say /dev/hda1 /dev/hda3 /dev/hda5 where all linux and /dev/hda2 was windows .. if i fdisk hda1 hda3 and hda5 will  /dev/hda2 windows still be there ?
[22:29] <DigitalKiwi> rubyripper is nice too if you don't mind ruby dep
[22:29] <TheFunkbomb> aniasis, ifconfig -a and iwconfig into pastebin
[22:29] <Ghoti_> !mythtv | root1
[22:29] <ActionParsnip> Ghoti_: set the res low and then attatch it, ive never done this so am not the best person to ask
[22:29] <DigitalKiwi> and if it's on ubuntu
[22:29] <Aloush> Hey guys!
[22:29] <root1> NO X
[22:30] <Davide> !mythtv
[22:30] <gigio> hola
[22:30] <DigitalKiwi> i don't even know what root1 question is
[22:30] <ActionParsnip> Ghoti_: the fact that it works on crt is good and the right driver is being used
[22:30] <milen> mib_61ad3or6 ??
[22:30] <milen> you get the error while bootin, right?
[22:30] <Ghoti_> ActionParsnip: I can run everything "normally, but only at 512x384 or 640x480- no higher resolutions show up at all; I know the TV can do 1280x1024x60Hz, I just want to force that resolution
[22:30] <root1> DigitalKiwi search mkmf
[22:30] <TheFunkbomb> aniasis?  You still with me?
[22:31] <thiebaude> yo
[22:31] <root1> DigitalKiwi search mkmf, help please
[22:31] <DigitalKiwi> search where
[22:31] <mib_61ad3or6> milen: i am unable to find grub. a windows update messed with the MBR
[22:31] <ActionParsnip> Ghoti_: you could edit xorg.conf to force it
[22:31] <ActionParsnip> !grub | mib_61ad3or6
[22:31] <DigitalKiwi> mib_61ad3or6: reinstall grub ;p
[22:31] <gigio> !list
[22:31] <wagner> #ubuntustudio
[22:31] <aniasis> TheFunkbomb, ifconfig shows my wlan0 as there but how do I connect to local devices
[22:31] <Ghoti_> ActionParsnip: on the TV that is, on the CRT, I can set any resolution I want.  I've tried hacking the xorg.conf, but it seems to ignore anything I put in there
[22:31] <milen> are you at least able to get to the boot screen, where you can choose between ubuntu and windows?
[22:31] <darkpixel> Ghoti_: i solved a similar issue adding the "modelines" to xorg.conf
[22:32] <root1> (
[22:32] <root1> please help
[22:32] <TheFunkbomb> !pastebin | aniasis
[22:32] <the7thmagus1> hey, my system monitor reports 99% CPU load and my compy's fans are whirring, but I can't find a process with a high CPU time... idk what's up
[22:32] <TheFunkbomb> go there and pastebin the results
[22:32] <vocx> mib_61ad3or6, I don't think it's mentioned in the wiki but you can reinstall grub using "grub-install" which basically is a higher level of going into the grub prompt
[22:32] <thebeav> this is throw out to the room looking for info, I checked the Ubuntu Forms for a how-to on bluetooth keyboard and mouse. found what i need but in the middle of the procedure I discovered that I don't have a hcid.conf file, so I can't complete the how-to. Anyone got more info on this?
[22:32] <pavi711> hello guys i need some help with openoffice
[22:33] <aniasis> TheFunkbomb this is not the machine I am talking about another laptop that I have.
[22:33] <pavi711> can anyone help me with it
[22:33] <mib_61ad3or6> vocx: ty
[22:33] <pc> Ghoti_: does /var/log/Xorg.0.log tell you anything?  maybe the TV is reporting and EDID with small resolutions?
[22:33] <root1> aaaaaaaaaaaaaa
[22:33] <root1> help
[22:33] <Ugi> Does anyone know how to change the new jaunty notification options?
[22:33] <DigitalKiwi> !ask | pavi711
[22:33] <root1> mkmf.deb
[22:33] <TheFunkbomb> aniasis, well, you need to tell me what you're talking about in order for you to help me.  The only things I know is that it doesn't work
[22:33] <root1> HELP
[22:33] <pc> the7thmagus1: use top
[22:33] <root1> HELP HELP HELP
[22:33] <the7thmagus1> pc: what's top?
[22:34] <root1> SEARCH mkmf
[22:34] <erUSUL> !help | root1
[22:34] <Ghoti_> pc: let me check :)
[22:34] <TheFunkbomb> aniasis, plug into your router with an ethernet cord and run sudo apt-get update
[22:34] <DigitalKiwi> what is it with everyong PMing me today
[22:34] <pc> a command that tells you what processes are running
[22:34] <TheFunkbomb> I gotta go eat
[22:34] <TheFunkbomb> good luck
[22:34] <root1> not X
[22:34] <root1> not X
[22:34] <root1> terminal
[22:35] <Ugi> Anybody?
[22:35] <darkpixel> the7thmagus1: you can also open a terminal and type ps aux, and look to %CPU
[22:35] <the7thmagus1> there isn't really anything taking huge time. X-serve is at 13%
[22:35] <glitsj16> Ugi: you might have better luck in #ubuntu+1 for jaunty related issues
[22:36] <Ugi> Thanks
[22:36] <pc> the7thmagus1: top reports CPU load, too...still says 99% ?
[22:36] <guntbert> does anyone know if there exists a channel in ukrainian language?
[22:36] <mib_61ad3or6> can you guys help me with this? I can't find grub using the first wiki, and the second wiki doesn't help with the fact that I'm running a live CD
[22:36] <mythman> Can someone advise me of some good guides or how to's for making the ubuntu desktop look a little more polished
[22:36] <the7thmagus1> its says ~67-75 percent
[22:36] <pavi711> how to enable hibernate option in ubuntu
[22:36] <harlemdavvey> guys what does this line mean?:       filename.rar -r -- *
[22:37] <harlemdavvey> can you help me??
[22:37] <the7thmagus1> Cpu(s): 71.9%us, 27.8%sy
[22:37] <the7thmagus1> that seems to add up to 99 percent...
[22:37] <usser> harlemdavvey, the owner can read the file, everyone else have no permissions
[22:38] <pc> the7thmagus1: you ought to at least be able to add up the active processes you see and get the 71.9%
[22:38] <Tetracomm> I want to change the Ubuntu startup screen to one which shows the processes taking place instead of the logo, how do I do that?
[22:38] <ActionParsnip> !bootsplash
[22:38] <Ghoti_> pc: I see a lot of output along the lines of "(II) NV(0): Not using default mode "1280x1024" (hsync out of range)" (with differeing resolutions).  800x600 is there ("(II) NV(0): Modeline "800x600"x60.3   40.00  800<PHONE_NUMBER>  600 601 605 628 +hsync +vsync (37.9 kHz)") but I can't set to that resolution even
[22:38] <thiebaude> !boot
[22:39] <guntbert> the7thmagus1: htop might give you a better picture
[22:39] <vocx> mib_61ad3or6, mount the root directory in something like "/media/original_root/"
[22:39] <pavi711> hibernate is not working in ubuntu 8.10 can anyone help me
[22:39] <maximo> !grub
[22:39] <Tetracomm> Is there a key or combination that will enable me to stop the boot process so that I can write down error messages?
[22:39] <xangua> Tetracomm: you can find some splash themes in "Gnome Look"
[22:39] <harlemdavvey> is there any possibility to extract files from a password protected archive, without any knowledge of the password?
[22:39] <cbwcjw> I am having a problem with fluxbox and sound. Whenever I use fluxbox, I hear no sound. Ive dug around and I cant find anything. It works in Gnome and KDE.
[22:39] <vocx> mib_61ad3or6, then issue "sudo grub-install --root-directory=/media/original_root/" hd0
[22:39] <maximo> nick Nasra
[22:40] <the7thmagus1> pc and all: nope, the sum of my processes is at 25%
[22:40] <erUSUL> Tetracomm: remove the splash and quiet options from the kernel lines in grub's /boot/grub/menu.lst
[22:40] <the7thmagus1> yet top shows me much more
[22:40] <Ghoti_> Tetracomm: Ctrl+S
[22:40] <mrwes> Tetracomm, you can see those messages by typing dmesg | less or dmesg | tail in a terminal
[22:41] <the7thmagus1> http://paste.ubuntu.com/153067/
[22:41] <vocx> mib_61ad3or6, that should install grub to the master boot record of the first disk, hd0, and then proceed to create the directories /media/original_root/boot/grub with a new menu.lst, so next time you boot it will detect the new installed boot loader.
[22:41] <the7thmagus1> http://paste.ubuntu.com/153067/ : that's a snapshot of my top readouts
[22:41] <Tetracomm> Ghoti_: Ctrl+S to stop the boot process?
[22:42] <Ghoti_> Tetracomm: Ctrl+S will 'freeze' any terminal until you press ctrl+Q to 'thaw' it
[22:43] <sisif> I`m on a pppoe connection and after a while (let`s say 30 minutes) my traffic trough the port 80 does not work anymore. I`v checked the /var/log/messages and I got nothing. Any suggestion on what is causing this? The only solution I have so far is to re-connect the pppoe.
[22:43] <cbwcjw> I am having a problem with fluxbox and sound. Whenever I use fluxbox, I hear no sound. Ive dug around and I cant find anything. It works in Gnome and KDE. Can anybody help me?
[22:43] <milen> .
[22:43] <the7thmagus1> even htop is showing 100% CPU load
[22:43] <milen> .
[22:44] <xangua> hello, does anybody have this issue ¿ > when i play a file with Mplayer my screens turns darker
[22:44] <Tetracomm> Thank you.
[22:44] <Ghoti_> Tetracomm: a pleasure
[22:44] <vocx> xangua, don't use compiz
[22:45] <xangua> vocx: i have already tirned compiz off
[22:45] <Lyth1> when I try to save nvidia-xserver settings to the x configurationf ile it fails with an error of not being to write the backup file
[22:45] <Tetracomm> I don't see fd0. :(
[22:45] <Tetracomm> What do I do?
[22:45] <the7thmagus1> hello? anyone check out the pastebin I sent?
[22:45] <erUSUL> xangua: try with a different vo driver ... « mplayer -vo x11 media_file »
[22:46] <xangua> erUSUL: i have already tried that many times
[22:46] <pc> Lyth1: sudo ?
[22:46] <Ghoti_> Tetracomm: do you have a floppy disk drive connected to the computer?  It's not USB, is it?
[22:46] <Lyth1> pc: Why did that not occur to me?
[22:46] <xangua> it happens with mplayer or VLC, it doesn't with Totmem the default player erUSUL
[22:46] <DavidePalm> hi Does anyon here run MythTV?  Anyone know about the "No UPnP Backend found" Issue?  I cannot even setup the backend or frontend, I just get that error
[22:46] <pc> Tetracomm: /dev/fd/0 ?
[22:47] <darkpixel> the7thmagus1: yes, but it seems incomplete, can you please paste the COMPLETE output of ps aux?
[22:47] <erUSUL> pc: that's the default file descriptor... stdout nothing to do with floppy
[22:48] <cbwcjw> !mythtv
[22:48] <sisif> Ok, new question: does anyone know any (good) reason for which your dns to go bezerk on a pppoe connection after a given amount of time ?
[22:48] <Kaj> rc.net
[22:48] <Lyth1> Nvidia-settings/ubuntu is not detecting my monitors proper max resolution
[22:48] <erUSUL> Tetracomm: load the floppy driver « sudo modprobe floppy »
[22:48] <sisif> Lyth1: make sure you have the Xorg.con set up properly
[22:48] <Ghoti_> Lyth1: I'm having exactly the same problem :(
[22:48] <the7thmagus1> darkpixel: http://paste.ubuntu.com/153075/
[22:48] <DavidePalm> cbwcjw, everything I've read there doesnt seem to have this issue do you happen to know what is going on?
[22:49] <multiverse> any masters of sudo here?
[22:49] <Lyth1> sisif: How do I check that?
[22:49] <Ghoti_> multiverse: we use Ubuntu. We're all sudo jockeys :)
[22:49] <Lyth1> Ghoti: Misery loves company,
[22:49] <multiverse> I can't seem to get this command to work:  Cmnd_Alias DBACHOWN = /bin/chown -R mysql:mysql /var/lib/mysql/
[22:49] <multiverse> Ghoti_:  will mister master help me out
[22:49] <sisif> Lyth1: look in /etc/X11/Xorg.conf
[22:49] <macman_> sudo multiverse
[22:49] <milen> .,
[22:49] <fleebailey33> i got an s3 savage 2000 with intrepid. it has installed xorg drivers, it can't play dvds
[22:49] <Lyth1> One moment, sisif
[22:49] <cbwcjw> DavidePalm: No, I dont seem to understand whats causing it. Xmms2, Rythmbox, Any media player and firefox, ect doesnt make a sound, the mixer looks set right, and it works just fine in gnome.
[22:50] <multiverse> sudo make me a sandwich
[22:50] <vocx> multiverse, that has nothing to do with sudo?
[22:50] <Tetracomm> Under /dev/fd, I see a link called 0.
[22:50] <Tetracomm> Could not display "/dev/fd/0".
[22:50] <Ghoti_> multiverse: xkcd fan, eh? :)
[22:50] <cbwcjw> :) I love that comic
[22:50] <multiverse> Ghoti_:  natch
[22:50] <milen> boys and girls, can the terminal 's function to ALWAYS says "Close this Window" be turned Off?
[22:51] <fleebailey33> s3 savage 2000, playing dvds...
[22:51] <Lyth1> What am I looking for?
[22:51] <ubuntusux> hello anyone know how to install xkoules in ubuntu  ?
[22:51] <pc> Tetracomm: erUSUL already mentioned that that's file descriptor 0 (not floppy)
[22:51] <milen> I'm using the latest Jaunty and when I'm closing the terminal, even if there are no processes I'm always getting "There is still a process running in this terminal.
[22:51] <Ghoti_> multiverse: so, in what context is 'Cmnd_Alias'?
[22:51] <pc> (because I made the same assumption as you :-)
[22:51] <Lyth1> Ssisf: What am I looking for?
[22:51] <the7thmagus1> darkpixel: any ideas?
[22:51] <Ghoti_> !jaunty | milen
[22:52] <xangua> milen: go to #ubuntu+1
[22:52] <milen> 10x ;)
[22:52] <milen> got it!
[22:52] <fabio> milen: try /apps/gnome-terminal/global/confirm_window_close in gconf-editor
[22:52] <Lyth1> Sisif: ?
[22:52] <darkpixel> the7thmagus1: its seems all ok man :-(
[22:52] <multiverse> Ghoti_:  I am making an alias for the command that I want to allow my DBA to run.  Someone on another channel has suggested that I create an alias for the command parms.  I'll try that now and I'll leet you know  how it goes.
[22:52] <milen> right away fabio
[22:53] <darkpixel> the7thmagus1: it happens every time you boot or its something aleatory?
[22:53] <Ghoti_> multiverse: try: alias yourcommand='sudo chown -R mysql:mysql /var/lib/mysql/'
[22:53] <sisif> Yes Lynth1:
[22:53] <mib_61ad3or6> I found the names of my partitions using https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows?action=show&redirect=RestoreGrub, but I'm afraid to continue because I don't have just two partitions. I have a root partition, the second is an extended partition that contains a /swap and /home
[22:53] <multiverse> Ghoti_:  kk, thanks
[22:53] <Lyth1> Sisif: I'm not sure what to be looking for
[22:53] <Ghoti_> multiverse: no prob mate
[22:54] <the7thmagus1> darkpixel: well, I was using KDE for a month. I boot back into gnome and this happened. I've rebooted several times directly into a gnome session and still it happens
[22:54] <sisif> Lyth1: check you display specs on the internet (aka max resolution and refresh rates) and modify the Xorg.conf
[22:54] <milen> 10x fabio, it worked!
[22:55] <Lyth1> Sisif: I was able to locate those on the monitor, however they were not ranges
[22:55] <Tetracomm> Ok, pc. So where is it then?
[22:56] <Tetracomm> I'm not seeing floppy anywhere.
[22:56] <lmartin92> is there a way to limit bandwidth on a per user basis (home computer system, not server)?
[22:56] <Tetracomm> After typing sudo modprobe floppy
[22:56] <sisif> Lyth1: I`m sorry I Cannon t help you more. I myself am here for help. Kinda newbie myself.
[22:56] <Lyth1> K
[22:56] <Ghoti_> !info shaperd | lmartin92
[22:57] <Lyth1> Can anyone here tell me what to do if I can only find one number each for my monitors horizsync and vertrefresh and the resolution is not being detected right?
[22:57] <darkpixel> the7thmagus1: what's the output of ps -eo pcpu,pid,user,args | sort -k 1 -r | head -10 ?
[22:57] <lmartin92> Ghoti_: one last question, does it work similar to trickle cause that didn't work, and is it as easy as adding it to a gnome session?
[22:58] <cbwcjw> I am using fluxbox in ubuntu intrepid. My sound isnt working for any programs, but it works fine and dandy in ubuntu. Can anybody help me?
[22:58] <Ghoti_> lmartin92: All I know about shaperd is what it does, I've not used it, sorry :(
[22:58] <cbwcjw> * Gnome
[22:58] <slhawkins> I've got a problem! I've got a server and I've been working on installing everything to it.. well when I decided to test my mail server I tried using telnet .... and it froze
[22:58] <lmartin92> k, thanks, I'll try it
[22:58] <the7thmagus1> darkpixel: http://paste.ubuntu.com/153080/
[22:58] <pc> Tetracomm: modprobe worked?  any interesting messages in /var/log/messages?
[22:59] <slhawkins> it said.... trying xx.x.xxx.xxx ...., then 'Connected to....' 'Escape character is '^]'.'
[22:59] <slhawkins> Shows something about the process I'm trying to connect to, and then freezes
[22:59] <pc> (I unplugged my IDE floppy, so I may not be much more help here)
[22:59] <slhawkins> Ctrl+C doesn't kill it either
[22:59] <Ghoti_> slhawkins: to break out of telnet, press ctrl-], enter, type 'quit'
[22:59] <Ghoti_> slhawkins: you should then be at a prompt
[22:59] <slhawkins> there!
[22:59] <h8red> hi
[22:59] <slhawkins> never knew that.. thought a quick Ctrl+C would work
[23:00] <slhawkins> now the question becomes - why does it freeze? even trying to ssh in to port 22 it freezes
[23:00] <slhawkins> It said 'Protocol mismatch'?
[23:00] <slhawkins>  - That's something I might have luck googling :D
[23:00] <dada__> Hi there! I was wondering, what's this "recovery menu" I get in when I sudo shutdown now? I expected my computer to, well... shut down :)
[23:00] <h8red> hey
[23:01] <Tetracomm> pc, I will check soon.
[23:01] <h8red> does ubuntu have the equivalent of a device manager, that would list my hardware, what kind of ram i have and how much, etc
[23:01] <Tetracomm> What do I type to run memtest86+?
[23:01] <pc> Tetracomm: I think you boot to it, using the grub menu
[23:02] <Ghoti_> slhawkins: port 22 is ssh, not telnet :)
[23:02] <slhawkins> yes, I know this
[23:02] <slhawkins> I ssh'd to my machine, was using telnet to test my mail server
[23:02] <Ghoti_> slhawkins: you cannot telnet to an ssh server, you'll get what you got- a 'dead' session
[23:02] <vocx> h8red, maybe not in a single place like that, but you can most probably find that information in the menus, System > Administraion or Preferences
[23:03] <Ghoti_> slhawkins: try telnetting to port 25 :)
[23:03] <cbwcjw> I am using fluxbox in ubuntu intrepid. My sound isnt working for any programs, but it works fine and dandy in gnome. Can anybody help me?
[23:03] <slhawkins> one sec - I'm going to try my mail server again..
[23:03] <Ghoti_> slhawkins: kk
[23:03] <Ghoti_> cbwcjw: try in #fluxbox perhaps?
[23:03] <h8red> i love ubuntu but i have no idea how to do the simplest things heh
[23:03] <Gulopine> okay, what's the magic to getting atheros support working? :(
[23:03] <cbwcjw> Ghoti_: Ill head there after I do a quick post on the forums.
[23:04] <Gulopine> that seems to be the only thing i'm missing
[23:04] <cbwcjw> h8red: Its fun to learn :)
[23:04] <h8red> i need a good starting place
[23:04] <zsquareplusc> cbwcjw: maybe pulse audio is not started when you use fluxbox
[23:04] <Ghoti_> !info atl2-source | Gulopine
[23:05] <slhawkins> Ghoti_: telnet freezes
[23:05] <cbwcjw> h8red: if you want a good read, go to the community documentation or http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/index.php
[23:05] <h8red> i would like to learn and be totally ms free.
[23:05] <slhawkins> can't quit or esc out
[23:05] <Gulopine> ghoti_, erm, thanks i think, but what does that mean?
[23:05] <Ghoti_> slhawkins: on the SMTP server machine, can you sudo netstat -plnt | grep 25
[23:05] <cbwcjw> zsquareplusc: Ill add it to .fluxbox/startup
[23:05] <h8red> i liked windows xp but i'm not down with this vista shit
[23:05] <dada__> Anyone know if there's a way to synch the system clock with a timeserver in the terminal?
[23:05] <zsquareplusc> h8red: there is lshw but that's a text tool. there are graphical tools too, but i don't remeber a name :-)
[23:05] <Ghoti_> Gulopine: that's the name of the package with atheros NIC support :)
[23:05] <Ghoti_> !language | h8red
[23:05]  * dada__ running terminal only system
[23:06] <h8red> okay
[23:06] <slhawkins> hmm
[23:06] <Gulopine> Ghoti_: but how do i get it/set it up?
[23:06] <slhawkins> that's probably it - tcp     0   0 <IP_ADDRESS>:25?
[23:06] <Gulopine> i've tried linux a few times in the past and always got stuck getting hardware working
[23:06] <Ghoti_> Gulopine: try apt-get install atl2-source ?
[23:06] <pyen> dada_: use ntpdate
[23:07] <thearthur> dada__,  its done with ntpdate
[23:07] <DasEi> h8red: http://www.howtoforge.com/the-perfect-desktop-ubuntu-8.04-lts-hardy-heron
[23:07] <thearthur> though im not sue the details
[23:07] <h8red> zsquareplusc:  thanks just what i wanted
[23:07] <slhawkins> Ghoti_: It shows it binding to <IP_ADDRESS>:25... one sec door
[23:07] <dada__> Thanks guys!
[23:08] <mr_frostee> h8red....I have been Windows free for almost 3 weeks now...I'm still learning Ubuntu.  It's just like your first Windows computer, you didn't know your way around that OS the first day either.
[23:08] <Gulopine> Ghoti_: ah, okay. what's this i'm reading about ath5k then? similar? different?
[23:08] <Ghoti_> Gulopine: I'm not sure- I don't get any hits when I apt-cache search ath5k
[23:09] <vocx> mr_frostee, 3 weeks... well... great?
[23:09] <zsquareplusc> Gulopine: ath5k is included with the kernel, so there is no separate install.
[23:09] <Gulopine> Ghoti_: ah, i'm looking at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/Atheros
[23:09] <Lyth1> Ghoti
[23:09] <Lyth1> Are you dual booting
[23:09] <c4pt> hello just wondering why sometimes when using ubuntu parts of the screen freeze and go grey? is this a ram issue?
[23:09] <Gulopine> zsquareplusc: oh? hrm, maybe it was atl2 i need then
[23:10] <Ghoti_> Lyth1: more like tri-computing. Got a Linux workhorse, a mac, and a windows gaming box
[23:10] <Lyth1> ghoti: On this box though, are you dual booting?
[23:10] <Tetracomm> Lawd.
[23:10] <Ghoti_> Lyth1: and the linux workstation at work that I'm using now ;)  No, I'm not dual-booting at present
[23:10] <c4pt> ???
[23:11] <Lyth1> Is your monitor like a generic
[23:11] <DasEi> c4pt: most probly no correct driver loaded; you can test system-mem( not the graphics one ) with live cd
[23:11] <cbwcjw> zsquareplusc: no difference.
[23:11] <Ghoti_> c4pt: when a window goes grey that means it's not responding to the OS, either because it's frozen or because it's gone momentarily autistic
[23:11] <c4pt> Ghoti_, so how do i fix it? add more ram?
[23:12] <DasEi> c4pt: do you use compiz on a weaker pc ?
[23:12] <Ghoti_> c4pt: it really depends on what you are doing and what apps are going autistic on you
[23:12] <c4pt> DasEi, i am using compiz fusion on an 8800GT 1GB nvidia with a d5400xs motherboard 8 cores dual xeon 2.33ghz with 2gb of ram
[23:12] <Ghoti_> c4pt: in my experience, more often than not, if you let them lie, they'll come back to life, especially Firefox
[23:12] <c4pt> DasEi, ??
[23:13] <DasEi> c4pt: so no hardware issues, and 2 gigs are enough too (lol)
[23:13] <darkpixel> c4pt: definetlly is not a weaker pc lol
[23:13] <Ghoti_> heh
[23:13] <c4pt> so what could be causing this?
[23:13] <DasEi> c4pt: did you install the propitary driver ?
[23:13] <c4pt> DasEi, propretary for broadcomm
[23:13] <Ghoti_> c4pt: which applications is that happening with?
[23:13] <DigitalGeek> Can someone look at my forums post for me? I'm having a problem with my SATA drives on 8.10
[23:13] <Skapare> I have installed SMPlayer (it works) so now I'm trying to make it the default player for multimedia under System > Preferences > Preferred Applications ... but it still runs Totem Movie Player despite selecting SMPlayer
[23:13] <c4pt> DasEi, for graphics i used the one directly from nvidia
[23:14] <DigitalGeek> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=7088160#post7088160
[23:14] <c4pt> Ghoti_, not just one app different apps.
[23:14] <Skapare> anyone know how to force the preferred player for multimedia?
[23:14] <DasEi> c4pt: and it installed well and can be found under hardware drivers ?
[23:14] <moffioso> hi
[23:14] <c4pt> DasEi, yeah
[23:14] <Ghoti_> c4pt: the same ones usually, or does it seem sort of random?  Do they stay grey, or do they come back to life after a few moments?
[23:14] <chelkkz> Olá A todo s
[23:14] <DasEi> c4pt: did you check your log files for errors ?
[23:15] <LiraNuna> /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lGL
[23:15] <moffioso> when i turn off firestarter with #rcconf, it won't unsecure my ubuntu 8.1
[23:15] <moffioso> right?
[23:15] <LiraNuna> anyone has a clue?
[23:15] <c4pt> Ghoti_, just random.
[23:15] <tapha84> salut
[23:15] <macman_> note
[23:15] <Ghoti_> LiraNuna: what are you doing when that error occurs?
[23:15] <vocx> LiraNuna, what are you trying to do?
[23:16] <DasEi> c4pt: check /var/log/syslog  , kern.log in same dir , /etc/X11/Xorg.0.log for errors
[23:16] <Ghoti_> c4pt: hmm. will it happen when you only have one or two apps running, or only when you're seriously multitasking?
[23:16] <LiraNuna> I'm trying to compile an OpenGL application
[23:16] <macman_> note .. portable ubuntu dosen't work in vmware/virtualbox .. i tried 3x
[23:16] <LiraNuna> I'm a developer, and I switched to 64bit,
[23:16] <amathis> hello, I have been having issues with an LCD monitor, so I decided to reinstall... When I choose to install from the cd, it has the splash screen then says 'input not supported', any thoughts?
[23:16] <LiraNuna> it can't find opengl libraries..
[23:16] <topsyandpip56> Greeting everybody
[23:16] <c4pt> Ghoti_, when i am pushing a heavy load it seems to do it. but i have ram available in system monitor
[23:17] <c4pt> DasEi, as noob as this might sound i dont know what exactly to look for in the logs
[23:17] <vocx> LiraNuna, Have you installed the developer packages, eh, developer?
[23:17] <topsyandpip56> I have a question
[23:17] <LiraNuna> vocx, what do you think?
[23:17] <Ghoti_> Usually it's more CPU than RAM that causes autistic apps..  next time it happens, open a temrinal and run 'top' and see what your 'load' numbers are
[23:17] <DigitalGeek> lol
[23:17] <vocx> LiraNuna, NO
[23:17] <DasEi> c4pt: open a terminal...
[23:17] <topsyandpip56> I have a question
[23:17] <LiraNuna> vocx, libglu1-mesa-dev is already the newest version.
[23:18] <isiah> tosyandpipi56: ask away
[23:18] <topsyandpip56> Is this really as acurate as it shows or is there anything else I should be aware of? (http://apcmag.com/how_to_dual_boot_windows_xp_and_linux_xp_installed_first.htm?page=3)
[23:19] <vocx> LiraNuna, you need several packages, like freeglut, libglut and so
[23:19] <DasEi> c4pt: done ?
[23:19] <LiraNuna> vocx, why would I need freeglut for openGL?
[23:19] <amathis> Has anyone had a problem with installing ubuntu with a widescreen LCD?
[23:19] <DasEi> c4pt: sudo apt-get install pastebinit
[23:19] <LiraNuna> glut is libglut (-lglut) NOT -lGL
[23:20] <isiah> tosyandpipi56: looks like it is
[23:20] <c4pt> DasEi, ok?
[23:20] <h8red> so if i learn how to do things well in ubuntu, will that carry over to other distros
[23:20] <DasEi> c4pt:  pastebinit /var/log/syslog              <<<<<give url from trml in here
[23:20] <nazgul> How do I regenerate the readahead files in /etc/readahead/* ? Reinstalling the readahead package and booting with thre "profile" kernel option did not work. Still empty.
[23:20] <c4pt> DasEi, pastebinit installed
[23:20] <Ghoti_> h8red: for the most part, yes
[23:20] <topsyandpip56> Ive never been comfortable with modifying my MBR
[23:20] <DasEi> !paste | c4pt
[23:20] <h8red> is it all the same commands and whatnot
[23:20] <DasEi> c4pt:  pastebinit /var/log/syslog              <<<<<give url from trml in here
[23:20] <c4pt> i know what pastebin is
[23:20] <topsyandpip56> I was going to use Wubi but I heard it was a virus
[23:20] <c4pt> i wasnt aware there is an app for it.
[23:20] <c4pt> i usually use pastie.org
[23:20] <LiraNuna> vocx, uh, seems like I need to use the libraries for my graphic card, installing nvidia-glx-180-dev worked...
[23:21] <isiah> tosyandpipi56: my advice is to go slow, and try to do it by another computer so you can go online and ask for help in case something goes wrong
[23:21] <DasEi> c4pt:  pastebinit /etc/X11/Xorg.0.log
[23:21] <noezoo> uu
[23:21] <Ghoti_> h8red: again, mostly yes. the main thing that changes form distribution to distribution is the package management
[23:21] <Skapare> c4pt: someone will eventually make an app for everything
[23:21] <mimor> I want to sync my evolution from desktop to laptop and visa-versa (combine items), how can I do this?
[23:21] <c4pt> DasEi, http://pastebin.com/f6379d9ef
[23:21] <Light-> Skapare, isnt that what PackageKit is?
[23:21] <Gulopine> Ghoti_: am i missing something? do i need to install/configure that package beyond the command you gave me?
[23:21] <vocx> LiraNuna, I see.
[23:21] <topsyandpip56> Ive done it on VMware Workstation, and everything went fine
[23:21] <Skapare> Light-: an app for everything?
[23:22] <Gulopine> i apologize for sounding completely ignorant, i'm just used to things that just work :(
[23:22] <LiraNuna> vocx, that's weird, on 32bit I don't need to install anything else
[23:22] <Light-> wait what, osrry I read the wrong line
[23:22] <Ghoti_> Gulopine: what's the output of lsmod | grep ath ?
[23:22] <Skapare> Gulopine: you're not the first
[23:22] <Ghoti_> Skapare: an app for everything, and for everything an app :)
[23:22] <loquitus_of_bor1> Hi. My sound has stopped working, for no apparent reason. Sound card is still detected but no output! Should I remove pulse? Reset alsa? Please help.
[23:22] <c4pt> DasEi, http://pastebin.com/f6236403a
[23:23] <Light-> loquitus_of_bor1, sound in ubuntu has been borked since 8.04. have you tried restarting?
[23:23] <topsyandpip56> Is a GeForce 7 compatible with Compiz?
[23:23] <Gulopine> Ghoti_: nothing. but i think that's because of trying to follow instructions from the site i linked earlier.
[23:23] <Ghoti_> loquitus_of_bor1: isn't it 'Locutus'?
[23:23] <Light-> topsyandpip56, yes, with nvidia's driver
[23:23] <loquitus_of_bor1> Light: yes... tried restarting and yes... I purposely spelled it that way
[23:23] <Gulopine> Ghoti_: i'll undo those changes and let you know what i get
[23:23] <Ghoti_> Gulopine: try sudo modprobe ath5k, then the lsmod command again
[23:23] <dries_> my sound is broken sinds last kernel update
[23:23] <dries_> two weeks ago
[23:23] <topsyandpip56> I heard I just had to enable the restricted driver
[23:24] <Gulopine> FATAL: Module ath5k not found.
[23:24] <topsyandpip56> And would a Realtek Ac'97 onboard sound work?
[23:24] <Light-> topsyandpip56, system->admin->hardware drivers
[23:24] <Ghoti_> Gulopine: insmod ath5k ?
[23:24] <vocx> LiraNuna, you should check specifically which libraries it is liking, and see if they are contained in the same packages.
[23:24] <Skapare> Gulopine: one reason many things don't "just work" is lawyers ... next time you meet a lawyer, thank him for his kind making your computer so screwed up
[23:24] <DasEi> c4pt:  I'm still reading; sudo apt-get install conky && conky           <<generic system overview (mem and so on)
[23:24] <Gulopine> i should disclose: i used wubi to install, in case that makes a difference
[23:24] <harnak> Whenever I start a "Termina" from gnome using a shortcut I've setup, it always drops me into "/"? Any one seen this before?
[23:24] <topsyandpip56> Light-, thanks, I'm happy there is no terminal stuff to do!
[23:24] <zsquareplusc> Gulopine: 8.04 or older? the ath5k driver came in in later kernels
[23:24] <LiraNuna> vocx, it wants /usr/lib/libGL.so - aka -lGL
[23:24] <Gulopine> zsquareplusc: 8.10
[23:25] <loquitus_of_bor1> Should I just remove pulseaudio?
[23:25] <topsyandpip56> And would a Realtek Ac'97 onboard sound work?
[23:25] <nazgul> loquitus_of_bor1: right-click on volume control in panel, click settings, and check for devices that are set to mute.
[23:25] <LiraNuna> vocx, libglu-mesa1-dev also provides it, but it didn't work; seems like I need my driver's libGL
[23:25] <zsquareplusc> Gulopine: that should have it.
[23:25] <Gulopine> Ghoti_: insmod tells me no such file or directory
[23:25] <zsquareplusc> Gulopine: wait, it in a extra package
[23:25] <Gulopine> zsquareplusc: would having used wubi made a difference?
[23:25] <DigitalGeek> Can someone please help me with this issue: I cannot install 8.10 because it hangs up on my SATA drives and I can't get it to work.
[23:26] <loquitus_of_bor1> nazgul: not mute. checked that
[23:26] <topsyandpip56> And would a Realtek AC'97 onboard sound work?
[23:26] <Gulopine> zsquareplusc: yeah, i saw a link that said it was in backports, but i didn't know how to get it
[23:26] <nazgul> loquitus_of_bor1: check all subdevices, too... there are lots of rulers
[23:26] <DasEi> c4pt: pastebinit /etc/apt/sources.list
[23:27] <topsyandpip56> Can somebody please answer my question? :-/
[23:27] <c4pt> DasEi, http://pastebin.com/fcc78155
[23:27] <vocx> topsyandpip56, My onboard AC'97 works without issues, with pulseaudio or alsa.
[23:27] <DasEi> c4pt: the 2 logs given before let me find no serious error, the vid-card seems to work fine
[23:27] <Gulopine> zsquareplusc: ah, the apt-get command Ghoti_ showed me seems to be getting the backports module now
[23:27] <DigitalGeek> topsyandpip56: I'm having trouble getting mine answered too.. seems to be busy today :(
[23:27] <Ghoti_> topsyandpip56: AC97 sound should work, yes
[23:27] <topsyandpip56> vocx: Thanks, I used to have problems with a Sound Blaster Audigy
[23:27] <topsyandpip56> So I got it replaced
[23:27] <c4pt> DasEi, conky (top) is showing 15% cpu usage for ¨wine¨ (wine is not an emulator)
[23:28] <DigitalGeek> c4pt: If you have a second can you help me with my SATA issue? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=7088160#post7088160
[23:28] <homeskill> is there a way to reload my audio drivers without rebooting ubuntu? randomly they just stop working
[23:29] <DasEi> c4pt: what are you running it it ?
[23:29] <vocx> topsyandpip56, mine is a K8M800 motherboard with VT8237 chipset, but it's fairly standard. Don't expect fancy sound.
[23:29] <thebloggu> i have a problem with sound in uuntu 8.10. whenever i mute the sound and some sound plays (it doesn't because it is muted but..) i hear a lot of crackling. if no sound is played no crackling at all
[23:29] <c4pt> DasEi, trying to install a game from cd using cedega at the moment and cedega is like 99.9% wine based
[23:29] <Gulopine> k, rebooting now that ath5k shows up in Hardware>Drivers. see if it works
[23:29] <c4pt> DigitalGeek, what sata controller is it? maybe try sata in IDE or legacy mode
[23:29] <DavidePalm> Hi I was able to install MythTV, when I set the storage directories to my second hard drive, I get an error saying that mythtv was unable to write to those directories.  Do I have to give MythTV SUDO permission somehow? any ideas?
[23:30] <topsyandpip56> vocx: I really don't mind, as long as I can hear YouTube, LOL
[23:30] <DigitalGeek> I'm not sure.. I have a XFX GeForce 8200 so maybe I can look it up based on that.
[23:30] <ienorand> sabayon
[23:30] <DigitalGeek> or run CPU-Z
[23:30] <c4pt> DasEi, cedega right now is just greyed out. i have to force quit and re initialize it but it does the same thing
[23:30] <Bo7> Hi! I want to access a Ubuntu server from a XP machine, what progs should I use?
[23:30] <vocx> topsyandpip56, will do
[23:30] <dries_> putty
[23:30] <DasEi> c4pt: so no current running act, let it finish then, I also don't know where the idle of an 8 core sits; you might to enable the partner's repos in your software sources, then do an update/grade
[23:30] <eseven73> bo7 putty maybe
[23:30] <kinja-sheep> Bo7: Putty.
[23:30] <zsquareplusc> Bo7: putty for console based access using ssh
[23:30] <eseven73> lol
[23:31] <eseven73> 3 answers ftw
[23:31] <Bo7> ah, great, thx all!
[23:31] <dries_> putty for shure
[23:31] <zsquareplusc> Bo7: you can use desktop sharing using vnc or run an x server on win (xming)
[23:31] <c4pt> DasEi, partner repositories?
[23:31] <thebloggu> i have a problem with sound in uuntu 8.10. whenever i mute the sound and some sound plays (it doesn't because it is muted but..) i hear a lot of crackling. if no sound is played no crackling at all
[23:31] <c4pt> DasEi, running 9.04 btw
[23:31] <Ghoti_> thebloggu: tell your cat to stop playing with the speaker wires :)
[23:31] <Bo7> is that the http://www.realvnc.com   ?
[23:32] <dries_> I have the same problem as thebloggu
[23:32] <darkpixel> lol :-)
[23:32] <c4pt> DasEi, it doesnt just do it with cedega or wine though it does it randomly at times with other apps
[23:32] <thebloggu> Ghoti_, i indeed have a cat but that's not the issue :P
[23:32] <zsquareplusc> Bo7: for example. there are several free vnc viewers available
[23:32] <cbwcjw> Ghoti_: I Laughed, but uh, I still have my issue
[23:32] <thebloggu> Ghoti_, and i am on a laptop so no wires :)
[23:32] <Ghoti_> thebloggu: it was worth a try :)
[23:32] <DasEi> c4pt: check system > software sources, there you enable then, or look at your sources.list : http://pastebin.com/fcc78155 , 44 n following
[23:33] <cbwcjw> Ghoti_: It might be using the wrong soundcard. How do I make it prefer the different soundcard?
[23:33] <thebloggu> dries_, asus laptop ?
[23:33] <Bo7> zsquareplusc: witch is the best iyho?
[23:33] <zsquareplusc> Bo7: please note that vnc is usually not encrypted, so don't use it over the internet unless oyu tunnel it through ssh or a vpn
[23:33] <dries_> nope, dell core2 duo
[23:33] <dries_> desktop
[23:33] <epaphus> hi guys, how can I install sun java virtual machine ---?
[23:33] <thebloggu> dries_, hmm, so probably no sound card issue
[23:33] <cbwcjw> Ghoti_: Oh, it is. Its just using the wrong card. Thats a lot simpler. Fail is me :/.
[23:33] <c4pt> DasEi, intrepid partner? i am on 9.04 is it safe?
[23:33] <thebloggu> dries_, pulseaudio too right ?
[23:34] <Bo7> zsquareplusc: is that hard to do? the tunneling
[23:34] <zsquareplusc> Bo7: i somtines use tightvnc as it has matching versions for win and lin. but it doesn't matter much
[23:34] <dries_> nope, the problem arose since last kernel update
[23:34] <DasEi> c4pt: as safe as a beta can be, mine does fine
[23:34] <dries_> jup, using pulseaudio
[23:34] <c4pt> DasEi, do i click revert?
[23:34] <c4pt> DasEi, to enable?
[23:34] <thebloggu> dries_, mine possibly too but not sure though
[23:34] <roffle> Hi Guys, can someone give me an idea when 9.04 will be released?
[23:34] <c4pt> DasEi, << scurred...
[23:34] <eseven73> 23rd
[23:34] <dries_> in 5 days
[23:34] <Ghoti_> cbwcjw: fun is having the Linux kernel see and prefer an onboard soundcard you thought you'd disabled in BIOS to the Audigy :)
[23:34] <kinja-sheep> !9.04 | thebloggu
[23:35] <roffle> ah good stuff, thanks!
[23:35] <thebloggu> kinja-sheep, i think you mean roffle :P
[23:35] <zsquareplusc> Bo7: na, when you run an ssh server on you r linux box, you can use putty on the windows pc. it has a tab where you can set up port forwarding. finally you tell vncviewer to connect to localhost:1 (or whatever port number you forwarded)
[23:35] <cbwcjw> Ghoti_: I have an audigy too... hahahaha.... Yea.
[23:35] <kinja-sheep> thebloggu: Disregard that.  roffle -->  See ^^
[23:35] <Bo7> zsquareplusc: ah, smart
[23:35] <DasEi> c4pt: system > administration > software sources > third party
[23:36] <c4pt> DasEi, << reloading
[23:36] <DavidePalm> How do I allow MythTV permission to write to my second HD? do I edit in fstab?
[23:36] <thebloggu> can someone help me and dries_ ? i have a problem with sound in ubuntu 8.10. whenever i mute the sound and some sound plays (it doesn't because it is muted but..) i hear a lot of crackling. if no sound is played no crackling at all
[23:36] <Lyth1> Circles are being stretched and displayyed as ovals
[23:36] <DasEi> c4pt: when done, go back to trml : sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[23:36] <Skapare> anyone know how to make .mp3 files use a different player?
[23:37] <zsquareplusc> Skapare: with nautlis, select properties and go to the "open with..." tab
[23:37] <DasEi> Skapare: sure, properties tab
[23:37] <eseven73> right click the mp3, open with and choose player
[23:37] <Skapare> DasEi: on each mp3?
[23:37] <Skapare> I mean for every mp3 and other files too
[23:38] <DavidePalm> Ghoti_ are you still here?
[23:38] <dclxvi> i am helping a child install ubuntu while on the phone, his screen says "initramff", is this what it should be?
[23:38] <DasEi> Skapare: it asks for your general app per file-type, f.e. mp3
[23:38] <Skapare> like in viewer associations
[23:38] <Ghoti_> DavidePalm: affirmative
[23:38] <Skapare> OK, I'll go try that and see what it does
[23:38] <c4pt> DasEi, ok finished
[23:38] <DasEi> c4pt: when done, go back to trml : sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[23:38] <dries_> thebloggu, I can fix the problem if I do: $ killall pulseaudio
[23:38] <DavidePalm> Ghoti_ can I ask you another question?  How do I allow mythtv access to write to my second HD.  Normally that requires sudo.
[23:39] <aaronator> I recently installed 9.04, and my virtualbox with vista guest has been a bit unstable.  is this a known problem?
[23:39] <thebloggu> dries_, really ? let me try
[23:39] <henryC> I'm running Xubuntu on VMWare (on XP).  I can't seem to launch a simple X app, say, xterm.  No matter what I set DISPLAY to.  Any ideas?
[23:39] <c4pt> DasEi, yeah finished...
[23:39] <dries_> and if I set everything in sound preferences to OSS
[23:39] <Sqrt[i]> I have libflashplayer.so in /home/jinxi/.mozilla/pluggins
[23:39] <Ghoti_> I'm not really the guy to ask, I've not set up MythTV in a dog's age.. you could ask in #mythtv perhaps
[23:39] <DasEi> DavidePalm: own a dir to regular (myth-tv) user
[23:39] <Ghoti_> DavidePalm: I'm not really the guy to ask, I've not set up MythTV in a dog's age.. you could ask in #mythtv perhaps
[23:39] <thebloggu> dries_, me too, definitely
[23:39] <dries_> thebloggu,  and if I set everything in sound preferences to OSS
[23:39] <dstrbdfrk1> can i get some ipod/amarok help??
[23:39] <Sqrt[i]> and yet there is no flash support in firefox
[23:39] <DavidePalm> Ghoti_ yeah non one answering in there
[23:39] <zsquareplusc> henryC: you expect it to connect to your xserver outside the VM?
[23:39] <DavidePalm> DasEi how exactly?
[23:40] <DasEi> DavidePalm: or do you need sudo to mount the extra hd ?
[23:40] <Ghoti_> DavidePalm: dasei might be able to help you :)
[23:40] <henryC> zsquareplusc:  I just want to run xterm (or any X app) inside ubuntu in vmware
[23:40] <DavidePalm> DasEi yes I need sudo to mount the second HD
[23:40] <thebloggu> dries_, so it is a pulseaudio issue
[23:40] <DavidePalm> DasEi Ghoti_ so I was thinking can I somehow add the user: mythtv to the fstab line?
[23:40] <thebloggu> i'll try to seek help there
[23:40] <DasEi> DavidePalm: then add it to fstab and use the options rw, user for it
[23:41] <DavidePalm> dasei Ghoti_ just add user,mythtv
[23:41] <DavidePalm> DasEi ah ok what's rw?
[23:41] <DavidePalm> read write!
[23:41] <dries_> apparently
[23:41] <DavidePalm> ok let me try
[23:41] <zsquareplusc> henryC: and you run the emulator with GUI, ok. did you install a desktop or server edition of ubuntu inside vmware?
[23:41] <DasEi> read-write, DavidePalm
[23:41] <epaphus> hi guys, how can I install sun java virtual machine ---?
[23:41] <DasEi> !fstab
[23:41] <henryC> zsquareplusc:  VMWare Workstation 6.5.1
[23:41] <dries_> thebloggu, just keep it off for another 5 days, and then do the update to 9.04, it will probably be fixed by then
[23:41] <DasEi> !java | epaphus
[23:42] <cbwcjw> I seem to fail at making the sound card I want the default. Can anybody help me?
[23:42] <henryC> zsquareplusc:  What I really want to do ultimately is run Navicat via wine, but it seems I can't get DISPLAY set properly even to run xterm.
[23:42] <thebloggu> dries_, or maybe that too will help :P
[23:42] <Skippy> Q: I am hoping someone can point me in the right direction here I am having the oddest problems with a Intel Pro/100 VM adapter and ubuntu 8.04, 8.10.
[23:42] <DasEi>  epaphus : or do you talk about vbox ?
[23:42] <RedFlame> hello everyone
[23:43] <dzup> Ghoti_: damm man you are loadit
[23:43] <Bo7> do I need some firewall for a Linux server? is a software-firewall installed by default? or do I need a hardware one?
[23:43] <Ghoti_> dzup: I am what?
[23:43] <dries_> just install firestarter
[23:43] <DasEi>  DavidePalm: edit your fstab and paste it, so I will have alook
[23:43] <Davide> DasEi, does this line look ok?  /dev/sdb1 	/media/storage 	ext3 user,auto,mythtv,rw
[23:43] <RedFlame> why doesnt ubuntu support ati rs200 340m driver
[23:43] <vocx> Bo7, it depends, do you know what a firewall does? Why would you need one? If you do need one the use firestarter.
[23:43] <dzup> Ghoti_: nice box
[23:44] <DasEi> Davide: or so,  delete mythtv in the options, add a auto
[23:44] <Skippy> - Interface gets an ip address, and CAN ping the external would BY IP only... the /etc/resolv.conf file has the correct information (and should be noted works with ever other computer on the network both linux and windows computers) The PC is a compaq evo d500 with an Intel 82801DB PRO/100 VM (LOM)
[23:44] <zsquareplusc> cbwcjw: you probably want to configure pulse audio. also look at padevchooser applet
[23:44] <Ghoti_> dzup: you're confusing me now.
[23:44] <DasEi> Davide: sorry, there already (auto) and end with  0   0
[23:44] <Davide> DasEi, so /dev/sdb1 	/media/storage 	ext3 user,auto,rw  0  0
[23:44] <DasEi> yup
[23:45] <c4pt> DasEi, :( i noticed this on 8.04 also....(right now when i just reinstalled cedega and re ran it...in system monitor two cores go to 100% and it just goes grey)
[23:45] <Bo7> vocx: to defend for hackers? is a modem/gateway safe enough?
[23:45] <zsquareplusc> henryC: i was asking becuase you can run virtual machines "headless" or with virtual screen. if you have a virtual scrreen (usually the default) you would install the deskop version of ubuntu. do you have a graphical login or just text?
[23:45] <DasEi> Davide: SAVE fstab, then sudo mount -a  (for te last time), then try again
[23:46] <Davide> just tried DasEi  still didnt work should I try a reboot?
[23:46] <vocx> Bo7, what can "hackers" as you call them, possibly do?  I can run all the ubuntu graphical apps.  Firefox, anything.  It's xubuntu.
[23:46] <Ghoti_> Barridus: sudo is your friend; sudo mount the hard drive, then sudo cp the files to wherever you want to save the,
[23:46] <DasEi> c4pt: for apps in wine, ask in #winehq,  does the freeze only appear with that certain app ?
[23:46] <Bo7> vocx, take over the machine (or is that just windows)? :)
[23:46] <dries_> Bo7, I would advise openBSD, I you want to be realy secure
[23:46] <henryC> zsquareplusc:  But from a terminal app., I can't launch a simple xterm.
[23:46] <DavidePalm> DasEi, I'm rebooting
[23:46] <pipegeek> would that windows had a sudo equivalent
[23:47] <c4pt> DasEi, pretty much
[23:47] <DasEi> Davide: no, check  mount (no further options) to make sure it's mounted
[23:47] <henryC> zsquareplusc:  I had a navicat for ubuntu but it was 30 days, just ran out.  I'm hoping to run my thinstalled navicat via wine.  But I think my first problem is just being able to run anything requiring X, if I'm understanding the problem rightly
[23:47] <Barridus> Ghoti_: that may be a little complicated, as i need to copy it to a network resouce (windows share) and i'm not sure how to do that
[23:47] <Bo7> do most Linux machines use a firewall would you say?
[23:48] <something> do they make drivers for when you use Ubuntu in Virtual machine?
[23:48] <vocx> Bo7, being paranoid about security is a common symptom of using Windows. But you need to understand how security works in Linux. Don't just throw firewalls and virus scanners there without knowing what their purpose is.
[23:48] <something> like video drivers that is
[23:48] <DasEi> something: it's not as good as native, but works
[23:48] <zsquareplusc> henryC: i'm not yet understaning your exact situation. you have ubuntu in a VM. you want to run a wine program in there. and it should display on the virtual screen of the VM?
[23:48] <Ghoti_> Barridus: places -> Connect to Server to connect to the Windows share for starters :)
[23:49] <Barridus> Ghoti_: i did
[23:49] <fer> hey, should I have any problems installing GTK2? I'm using ubuntu 8.10
[23:49] <henryC> zsquareplusc: yes, exactly.
[23:49] <Ghoti_> Barridus: and is the share connected now?
[23:49] <fer> and I'm brand new to linux
[23:49] <vocx> Bo7, no most linux machines don't use strict firewalls. But the distributions carry a native firewall that essentially blocks ports that are not being used. You wouldn't notice.
[23:49] <henryC> zsquareplusc:  Although, to simplify the problem, I thought I'd just try even running an xterm there.
[23:49] <xzirrow> hi to everybody!
[23:49] <h8red> what kinda hardware should i have to run nero vision converting divx to dvd in a virtual machine?
[23:49] <gartral> !hi | xzirrow
[23:50] <Barridus> Ghoti_: yes it's been connected
[23:50] <zsquareplusc> Bo7: the linux kernel has a firewall built in, but it usually unconfigured. the security is that no services, accessible from the outside, run on a default install-
[23:50] <h8red> i have 2 ghz and 512 ram think that'll do?
[23:50] <henryC> zsquareplus:  machine name is "chris-desktop".  I've done export DISPLAY to all kinds of things:  chris-desktop:0.0, <IP_ADDRESS>:0.0, <IP_ADDRESS>:0.0 ... no luck.
[23:50] <xzirrow> is there someone who familar with Synaptic Package Manager ?
[23:50] <Ghoti_> Barridus: okay, at a terminal, type 'mount' - that will show a list of all mounted locations, from which you can find the path to the mounted windows share
[23:50] <DasEi> fer: no, you know the exacr packet name? else use synaptic
[23:50] <Barridus> Ghoti_: oh rats, i mispoke.  wait a second.  i said the reverse.  i want to copy stuff FROM the samba to the home partion
[23:50] <eseven73> now, once you start installing ssh and vnc and stuff, then you might want a firewall
[23:50] <Bo7> vocx, well I'm just trying to host a webserver, I won't download any viruses or Trojans. is it safe without a FW just connected to the net
[23:50] <zsquareplusc> henryC: and in your VM, did you install the desktop version of ubuntu? i.e. you have the browinish user interface or a black text console?
[23:50] <DasEi> Davide: is it mounted ?
[23:50] <Ghoti_> Barridus:  that's okay, sudo is still your friend :)
[23:51] <Guest48768> has any1 noticed remote desktop get buggy in 8.10 or is it a user specific issue im having? on a fresh install, remote desktop was perfect now ubuntu 8.10 is a bit slower internet wise and the remote desktop is not working at all and sometimes it almost works but blurs on my control screen        does any1 know what i should do?
[23:51] <Gulopine> zsquareplusc: Hardware Drivers says "This driver is activated but not currently in use" for the ath5k
[23:51] <xzirrow> need help : how can i use regular expressions in Synaptic Search ? Is there a way ?
[23:51] <Barridus> Ghoti_: i'll pastebin the mount output
[23:51] <vocx> Bo7, sure. maybe add a very strong password so it is not easily guessed. A password containing punctuation marks for instance.
[23:51] <Gulopine> do i need to do something to configure it or do i maybe just not have an ath5k chip?
[23:51] <Ghoti_> Barridus:  okeydoke
[23:51] <Davide> DasEi, yes its mounted
[23:51] <henryC> zsquareplusc:  Well it's more like blue-black instead of brownish, but that's just because it's xubuntu.  I installed it before I got familiar with regular ubuntu intrepid which I have since been using elsewhere.  It's not much different that I can tell though.
[23:51] <Davide> DasEi, but I think mythtv still doesnt have access to it
[23:51] <Davide> DasEi,  I'm getting the same error
[23:52] <DasEi> Davide: did you restart mythtv ?
[23:52] <Davide> yeah I rebooted the system
[23:52] <Barridus> !paste
[23:52] <vocx> fer, you don't need to install GTK+ 2.0 it's already installed. What are you trying to do?
[23:52] <emil_> hi
[23:52] <zsquareplusc> Gulopine: there are two kernel modules for the same chip. you may need to blacklist one, to make sure the other loads.
[23:52] <elli222> err, i've come across a interesting problem
[23:52] <Barridus> Ghoti_: http://paste.ubuntu.com/153102/
[23:53] <pipegeek> elli222: do tell
[23:53] <Barridus> i'm assuming sda6?
[23:53] <henryC> zsquareplusc:  I'm in a graphic UI desktop (xubuntu on vmware on XP). ... So I shouldn't need to apt-get install anything I wouldn't think.
[23:53] <zsquareplusc> henryC: ok. xubuntu is fine too. so it sounds like you have an xserver running inside the VM. so i'd expect lauching an xerm there should work.
[23:53] <elli222> sometimes, my hard disk is reffered to differently in /dev. Today, it is /dev/sda, but sometimes it is /dev/sdc...
[23:53] <Bo7> vocx, so basically Ubuntu has a simple FW built in, no config needed to run a server app?
[23:53] <emil_> anyone installed google earth 5 from medibuntu repo? Couse It don't show photos but version from bin installer does
[23:54] <henryC> zsquareplusc:  Me too, stumped.  Always: "xterm Xt error: Can't open display: chris-desktop:0.0"
[23:54] <zsquareplusc> henryC: you talked about a console you use to tun the command. that a console inside the VM? or form the outside (i.e. ssh?)
[23:54] <pipegeek> elli222: That's a little odd... is it an external?
[23:54] <Skapare> DasEi: that worked ... no idea why it didn't work in System > Preferences > Preferred Applications
[23:54] <henryC> zsquareplusc: That is the "Applications-->Terminal" app of ubuntu.
[23:54] <Ghoti_> Barridus: I don't see the windows share being mounted, which is odd- is it currently on your desktop?
[23:55] <vocx> Bo7, nope. If you need it, you can customize such firewall with the frontend called "firestarter".
[23:55] <zsquareplusc> henryC: if its all inside the vm, try setting DISPLAY=:0
[23:55] <DasEi> Davide: did you configure a certain dir on mythv (on the additional hd9 ?
[23:55] <pipegeek> elli222: In any event, you can also refer to your drives by UUID (a number that uniquely identifies the partition, and does not change unless you reformat)
[23:55] <Bo7> vocx, so when would I need it?
[23:55] <zsquareplusc> henryC: maybe you have a problem with the hostname. so that the name in DISPLAY isn't the real name of your (virtual) machine
[23:55] <henryC> zsquareplusc:  That gives the same error except it precedes it with another error: "No protocol specified".
[23:56] <vocx> Bo7, when you are a real hacker, system administrator, who really needs to have control over all user's accounts and programs access, etcetera.
[23:56] <Necrosan> Got latest wine installed
[23:56] <Necrosan> cant seem to make spore install, have applied patch to make it run fine
[23:56] <zsquareplusc> henryC: with ctrl+alt+F1 you should get a textual console. can you log in there and check what "hostname" returns? is it the same name as you had in DISPLAY?
[23:56] <spiderz13> anyone running the Ubuntu Netbook Remix off a HP Mini 1000?
[23:57] <Necrosan> Just keeps asking me for data3.cab, which is not on my dvd.
[23:57] <maurobaru> ciao
[23:57] <DasEi> Skapare: nice to hear, have music !
[23:57] <homeskill> is there a way to reload my audio drivers without rebooting ubuntu? randomly they just stop working?
[23:57] <LargePrime> hello. i am on 8.04 and am looking to update my kernel to 2.6.27 or greater.  what is the easiest way of doing so?
[23:57] <Barridus> Ghoti_: actually it had vanished although i still had the nautilus window open for it.  ok it's remounted and on the desktop again.  http://paste.ubuntu.com/153108/
[23:58] <Bo7> vocx, ah, well I only have 1 account, that I should always run in "user" mode not root right?
[23:58] <vocx> Bo7, correct
[23:58] <maurobaru> !list
[23:58]  * scunizi just started burning the 64 bit version of 9.04.. never tried 64bit.. always heard it was trouble.
[23:58] <DasEi> homeskill:if you know the name, put it in /etc/modules
[23:58] <Bo7> vocx, great! thx for the help man!
[23:58] <henryC> zsquareplusc:  ctrl+alt+f1 did not get me there.  I tried ctrl-alt-backspace and it sent me to the graphical "Username:" prompt.  After 30 seconds, it brought me back in.
[23:59] <vocx> scunizi, yeah, somethings like java, video codecs, flash and stuff may not work.
[23:59] <homeskill> DasEi how can i find the name
[23:59] <henryC> zsquareplusc: "uname -a" gives Linux chris-desktop 2.6.27-11-generic #1 SMP Wed Apr 1 20:57:48 UTC 2009 i686 GNU/Linux
[23:59] <zsquareplusc> henryC: so you running a live cd inside the VM?
[23:59] <MarkJones> Besides OpenArena, Nexiuz, and Alien Arena, are there any other cool games I should know about for Ubuntu?
[23:59] <scunizi> vocx: well... I have 400 gigs of unused space just waiting for an experiment..:)
[23:59] <henryC> zsquareplusc:  I guess it was installed from an xubuntu liveCD.
[23:59] <Ghoti_> Barridus: that outout was exactly the same. Interesting.  I suppose you could copy the files from the Windows share onto your desktop, and from there to the local /home folder
[23:59] <zsquareplusc> henryC: because automaic login is not by default enabled otherwise
[23:59] <vocx> LargePrime, the recommended way is to update the distribution to 8.10 to get a new kernel. Otherwise you will have to compile it from source and create a deb package to install it.