[16:42] <carlisle_> some programs have their own 'user' that the program is run under
[16:42] <carlisle_> vicky_: 'not working' is a little vague, can you elaborate
[16:43] <vicky_> carlisle_:  not able to connect
[16:43] <yeats> rickb: the localip needs to be on your subnet - the remote ip needs to be on the remote network's subnet
[16:43] <vicky_> carlisle_:  not identifying
[16:44] <carlisle_> vicky_: i am not going to be the most capable to help you with this particular problem, maybe somebody else can jump in here?
[16:44] <L3mce> vicky_: when you say not identifying... what do you mean?
[16:45] <javaJake> vicky_: can you tell us what wireless or ethernet card you are using? Or perhaps what model your computer is?
[16:45] <jrib> fooblargh: you are on 12.10?
[16:45] <MonkeyDust> vicky_  better start from the beginning, what were you doing and when/where did things go wrong
[16:45] <vicky_> L3mce: my internet is not working in ubuntu 12.10 just installed..help? wifi not working
[16:45] <awolf> carlisle: ok, I'll give up on trying to just get it all back normally. But one more question:
[16:45] <carlisle_> awolf: sorry, im a bit stretched thin here with my attention span
[16:45] <vicky_> javaJake:  dell vostro 1510
[16:45] <bazhang> !details | vicky_
[16:45] <L3mce> vicky_: what is the output of lspci -nn | grep -Ei '(wlan|wireless)'
[16:45] <carlisle_> what i would recommend doing is to copy the files and things you need out of your old home directory into your new one instead of just moving it in place like it is
[16:46] <bazhang> vicky_, whats the card chipset
[16:46] <awolf> carlisle: how do I set a new default folder so that I know it at least has the right permissions to start fresh?
[16:46] <awolf> carlisle: by folder I mean home directory
[16:46] <Razzeeyy> Hi all :)
[16:46] <carlisle_> awolf: you have a new /home directory after you moved the old one out of the way right?
[16:46] <rocky> hrm... anyone know of a good gmail notifier (for the gnome notification system) ?  gm-notify (used to work in 12.04) doesn't appear to work in 12.10
[16:46] <fooblargh> jrib: Correct
[16:46] <javaJake> vicky_: is your wireless turned off? Do you know how the Fn+wireless key works?
[16:46] <vicky_> just ubuntu installed but wifi not detected?
[16:46] <awolf> carlisle: yes, but I was playing with it trying to get it right
[16:46] <vicky_> yes it is on
[16:47] <awolf> carlisle: I should probably delete it and start fresh again
[16:47] <fooblargh> jrib: And the behavior I'm seeing doesn't seem exactly like in the bug report from what I've read so far... here aptitude wants to *install* some new :i386 packages
[16:47] <vicky_> bluetooth working but wifi not working
[16:47] <carlisle_> awolf: one sec let me give you some permissions to use
[16:47] <L3mce> vicky_: we get it... your wifi is not connected... please give the output I asked for
[16:48] <fooblargh> jrib: The reason seeming to be that  foo  is (rightly) depended on, with aptitude reasoning that "hey, foo:i386 provides foo, let's get that". It seems to ignore the fact that the amd64 version of foo is already present.
[16:48] <carlisle_> awolf: 755 should be enough, if you want to be paranoid you can change your user's directory to 751
[16:48] <fooblargh> note: I currently have *no* installed i386 packages
[16:48] <awolf> carlisle: ok, and the new directory, I can/should use chmod -R or just chmod?
[16:48] <carlisle_> awolf: what i would recommend is trying to move the old home directory in place
[16:48] <carlisle_> it's worth a shot
[16:48] <carlisle_> awolf: 755 is just for chmod without '-R'
[16:48] <vicky_> L3mce: no output
[16:49] <carlisle_> in general you should never use '-R' unless you know exacty what you're doing
[16:49] <rickb> sudo sysctl -p
[16:49] <carlisle_> it's really easy to screw permissions up and incredibly difficult to get them back
[16:50] <javaJake> L3mce: you can discover the hardware this user is working by looking up their laptop model on the internet: http://www.martinhenze.de/2008/05/24/ubuntu-linux-on-dell-vostro-1510/
[16:50] <awolf> carlisle: Trouble is, my old directory was giving me permissions errors trying to get into it, so I think there are internal permissions issues, unless just moving it back will fix that...
[16:50] <L3mce> vicky_: please pastebin the output of lspci
[16:50] <L3mce> !pastebin | vicky_
[16:50] <awolf> carlisle: btw, should it be 0755 or just 755?
[16:50] <rocky> how come empathy is no longer in the notification menu on 12.10 ?
[16:51] <L3mce> javaJake: the same models often use different addon cards. Linux knows what it can see... that is safer.
[16:51] <carlisle_> awolf: the '0' is implied with just '755'
[16:51] <alien2050> Is there a way to start a specfic program (example: gimp and blender) on two separate horizontal desktop and have them stick this way?
[16:51] <alien2050> on unity 5
[16:51] <javaJake> L3mce: true, true
[16:51] <carlisle_> awolf: can you show me the output of: ls -ld /old_home
[16:51] <deadmund> ardchoille: Arrgh, I can't find it
[16:51] <carlisle_> where old_home is your old home directory
[16:52] <deadmund> ardchoille: I'm not on the machine that has it installed.
[16:52] <ardchoille> deadmund: ok
[16:52] <deadmund> ardchoille: sorry!
[16:52] <cainus> hey all... can anyone tell me how to reset a usb mouse that feezes occasionally
[16:52] <awolf> carlisle: I have to get back to the system by rebooting first
[16:52] <cainus> ?
[16:52] <carlisle_> awolf: oh i see
[16:52] <ardchoille> deadmund: I suspect that it's a mobile app and not a Linux app, from the search hits I'm seeing
[16:52] <vicky_> L3mce: output of lspci,.....00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation Mobile PM965/GM965/GL960 Memory Controller Hub (rev 0c) 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Mobile GM965/GL960 Integrated Graphics Controller (primary) (rev 0c) 00:02.1 Display controller: Intel Corporation Mobile GM965/GL960 Integrated Graphics Controller (secondary) (rev 0c) 00:1a.0 USB controller: Intel Corporation 82801H (ICH8 Family) USB UHCI Contr
[16:52] <carlisle_> awolf: i think the safest approach to this problem is to copy what you need out of that old home directory
[16:53] <awolf> carlisle: but I tried that earlier, and I remember it looking like more d r w type letters than just a simple 4
[16:53] <Razzeeyy> People, excuse me but I have no idea how to even google that. I have the following problem: sound "sticks" to the one exact terminal (first logged). So what is this? What I should look at?
[16:53] <carlisle_> any chance you ran chmod 777 ?
[16:53] <awolf> carlisle: the directory itself is drwx------4
[16:53] <deadmund> ardchoille: I'm guessing there is an app of the same name (simple name).  But I am VERY SURE that there is a debian package the does almost exactly what you asked for.  I have used it for years on my debian PC.
[16:53] <carlisle_> awolf: aha!
[16:53] <carlisle_> awolf: chmod 755 /directory
[16:54] <carlisle_> that's currently 700
[16:54] <ardchoille> deadmund: ok, I'll continue searching. Thank you for everything :)
[16:54] <deadmund> yeah
[16:54] <carlisle_> there's very few situations where you'll want 700
[16:54] <akSeya> ubuntu 12.10 is missing some of my favorite features :( window are not resizing when moving it to an edge
[16:54] <deadmund> ardchoille: also: gnome-pie
[16:55] <awolf> carlisle: thanks, before I go, what is the process to make a new fresh directory? Just mv to make the old directory a new name and the mkdir for a new fresh one and do the 755 on it, and the stuff internally will get set automatically?
[16:55] <ardchoille> deadmund: installed and trying out gnome-pie now but it's horribly buggy here
[16:56] <deadmund> haha
[16:56] <deadmund> ok
[16:56] <carlisle_> awolf: mv /new_home /home.unique.filename && mv /old_home /home
[16:56] <akSeya> on some windows, buttons are on the right now, they were all on the left before...
[16:56] <vicky_> L3mce: ?
[16:57] <kostkon> akSeya, which applications?
[16:57] <kostkon> akSeya, did you upgrade?
[16:57] <akSeya> kostkon, yeap, from 12.04 to 12.10
[16:57] <vicky_> just ubuntu installed but wifi not detected?
[16:57] <dhanasekaran> I tried /etc/environement and /etc/sudoers file not work please guide me
[16:57] <yeats> !clone
[16:57] <dhanasekaran> How to configure JAVA_HOME for sudo users
[16:58] <rocky> hrm, where did the "additional drivers" or whatever option go in the settings on ubutnu 12.10 ?
[16:58] <vicky_> kostkon: just ubuntu installed but wifi not detected?
[16:58] <awolf> carlisle: ok, I'll see, thanks so much!!
[16:58] <akSeya> kostkon, pidgin, VirtualBox
[16:58] <carlisle_> awolf: np good luck!
[16:58] <akSeya> libreoffice
[16:58] <wilee-nilee> rocky, OPen the updatew manager then settings last tab on right.
[16:59] <wilee-nilee> update*
[16:59] <kostkon> akSeya, i'll assume that you have used ccsm in the past, you mentioned a non default feature; try pressing the reset to defaults button(s) in ccsm.
[16:59] <bazhang> vicky_, please dont repeat. you never gave us the output of lspci
[16:59] <bazhang> !pastebin | vicky_
[17:00] <akSeya> kostkon, ccsm is not installed.. going to install it
[17:00] <LigH> Greetings.
[17:00] <FliPPeh> Alright, this is weird
[17:00] <FliPPeh> I made a new test account on Windows live and THAT one connects
[17:00] <FliPPeh> Just not my real account
[17:01] <FliPPeh> Is this some obscure bug that only affects pre-2013 accounts
[17:01] <FliPPeh> ?
[17:01] <LigH> Trying to install grub-customizer by danielrichter2007; his site recommends installing the ppa via 'deb' (and 'deb-src'); but I get the error "Command 'deb' not found". Which package may I have to install prior to this?
[17:01] <wilee-nilee> !enter > FliPPeh
[17:01] <kostkon> akSeya, or right, you don't need to install it. i misunderstood. it's a default feature
[17:02] <bazhang> !addppa | LigH
[17:02] <rocky> wilee-nilee, hm ok... so what's the best way to install the latest proprietary nvidia drivers now?
[17:02] <kostkon> akSeya, you could try resetting unity then. also, did you reboot after doing the upgrade?
[17:02] <FliPPeh> Kinky.
[17:02] <LigH> OK - so Daniel Richter shall update his page. Thanks bazhang.
[17:02] <wilee-nilee> rocky, Not sure here I have never had to but the channel can help. ;)
[17:03] <wilee-nilee> rocky, I have saved commands but users that know this for sure are a better source.
[17:04] <rocky> thanks
[17:04] <wilee-nilee> FliPPeh, Please respect that the channel is busy and not a chat channel but support
[17:05] <FliPPeh> I know, I'm kind of seeking support here. But it seems I'm one in a million who's affected by this bug.
[17:05] <LigH> bazhang: apt-get update; install ... works. Thanks, bye. :)
[17:05] <reuf> i have both openjdk and sun jdk on my ubuntu, but when i type java -version, i get openjdk version, how do i switch to sun-java?
[17:05] <Rikimaru> Helllo #ubuntu!
[17:05] <Rikimaru> I have a quick question regarding apt-get
[17:05] <Rikimaru> Graphviz : Depends: libcdt4 but it is not going to be installed
[17:06] <Rikimaru> WHat does that mean exactly?
[17:06] <Rikimaru> Should I install libcdt4 separetly?
[17:06] <Razzeeyy> anyone can help? :3
[17:06] <Razzeeyy> >>I have the following problem: sound "sticks" to the one exact terminal (first logged). So what is this? What I should look at?
[17:06] <vicky_> bazhang: output of lspci... http://paste.ubuntu.com/1289790/plain/
[17:06] <Rikimaru> Or does that mean its all fine?
[17:08] <bazhang> Broadcom Corporation BCM4312 802.11b/g LP-PHY (rev 01)   <--- vicky_
[17:08] <bazhang> !broadcom | vicky_ have a read
[17:08] <faLUCE> hi, is there a good inventory management system with barcode support for linux?
[17:08] <kostkon> vicky_, open dash, search for "sources", then click the Software Sources application to open it, the select the last tab and see if it offers you a driver for your wifi card, it will say somwthing along the line of: Broadcom Wireless or similar
[17:08] <|adrian|> hello, I have just installed Ubuntu version 7.04 and I'm trying to update my software with the Update Manager and I keep getting this error: "Could not download all repository indexes" My internet connection is working, anyone have any clues why I get this error?
[17:09] <deadmund> |adrian|: yeah
[17:09] <bazhang> |adrian|, that is way end of life
[17:09] <deadmund> |adrian|: That's from 2007
[17:09] <wilee-nilee> |adrian|, 7.04 is long past end of life.
[17:09] <|adrian|> yeah its sevreal years old
[17:09] <bazhang> |adrian|, get a more recent and supported on
[17:09] <|adrian|> so Im screwed?
[17:09] <bazhang> |adrian|, www.ubuntu.com and get a supported one
[17:10] <deadmund> |adrian|: with that version
[17:10] <kostkon> vicky_, also, give us the output of the command:  iwconfig
[17:10] <|adrian|> do I only need to download a new update manager program or the whole operating system?
[17:10] <TheLordOfTime> |adrian|:  the entire OS
[17:10] <bazhang> |adrian|, whole new iso
[17:11] <TheLordOfTime> |adrian|:  which going to www.ubuntu.com and hitting the download link would do.
[17:11] <|adrian|> will it fit on a cd?
[17:11] <TheLordOfTime> DVD maybe
[17:11] <TheLordOfTime> not sure about CD
[17:11] <|adrian|> ok
[17:11] <kostkon> |adrian|, download 12.04 or 12.10 and do a clean install. you cant' update from 7.04
[17:11] <bazhang> |adrian|, the newest does not
[17:11] <TheLordOfTime> bazhang:  does 12.04 fit on CD?  (I use LiveUSB, so i dont know :P)
[17:11] <lukanov> Hi everybody! How can i search for files or something?
[17:11] <kostkon> TheLordOfTime, yes
[17:11] <yahusha> http://pastebin.com/RCkrPzzZ
[17:12] <bazhang> TheLordOfTime, it does, if memory servers. 12.10 is 800mb though
[17:12] <TheLordOfTime> bazhang:  since i use 2GB USB drives, it doesn't affect me much ;P
[17:12] <|adrian|> I have another question too, how do I compile a program with gcc? the file I want to compile is: "test.cpp"
[17:12] <bazhang> |adrian|, install build-essential
[17:12] <kingfisher64> can someone tell me if updating from ubuntu 11.10 64 bit to ubuntu 12.10 32 bit will cause problems. I've just updated and it appears to be fine. Could there be potential problems under the surface?
[17:13] <JmCourir> hey guys, how are you here :)
[17:13] <vicky_> kostkon:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/1289850/
[17:13] <JmCourir> nice to see that there is a lot of ppl in this community
[17:13] <wilee-nilee> yahusha, Peppermint is not supported here,
[17:13] <pingcasts> kingfisher64: I don't know but you're upgrading from a non lts to a non lts so I would be skeptical
[17:13] <kostkon> kingfisher64, ??
[17:13] <kingfisher64> i know it's an odd question
[17:13] <ThothCastel> I think I managed to install the driver  for my wiereless  on my laptop
[17:14] <ThothCastel> however,
[17:14] <ThothCastel> I can't seem to connect using wireless...
[17:14] <amcram> thohi
[17:14] <wilee-nilee> kingfisher64, Not a advised upgrade.
[17:14] <fooblargh> For the logs: I seem to have fixed my problem by doing dpkg --remove-architecture i386
[17:14] <ThothCastel> if I see 'Enable Wireless' on the top right corner,    does it mean I installed successfully the driver?
[17:15] <kingfisher64> i have an older machine given to me (pentium 4) upgraded memory and hd significantly and want to run latest ubuntu then put virtualbox and freenas on it - to use it as a NAS kostkon, pingcasts, wilee-nilee
[17:15] <deadmund> ThothCastel: it means there is some driver working with the card.  Doesn't mean the driver works 100%
[17:15] <bazhang> ThothCastel, does ifconfig show wlan0 or similar
[17:15] <wilee-nilee> kingfisher64, I would be backed up no matter what anyway, as far as your other goals I have no idea.
[17:16] <ThothCastel> deadmund: how do I connect to my wireless hotspot? I created the connection and now??
[17:16] <kingfisher64> I wanted to do a remove of 11.10 and a brand new installation of 12.10 but couldnt' see how to do this by loading the .iso cd
[17:16] <of1> anyone installed snort latest on 12.4?
[17:16] <kingfisher64> it wasn't an option as far as I could see
[17:16] <deadmund> ThothCastel: Not sure what you mean by "hotspot" do you have a wifi driver?  Is it listed in the drop down menu?
[17:16] <bazhang> of1, from where
[17:16] <ThothCastel> deadmund: yes, I installed the broadcom
[17:17] <akSeya> kostkon, any idea then?
[17:17] <ThothCastel> hotspot I mean my access point via wireless
[17:17] <ThothCastel> deadmund:
[17:17] <deadmund> ThothCastel: If you see the network listed in the dropdown, connect to it
[17:17] <of1> bazhang, snort source(tar.gz)
[17:17] <vicky_>   http://paste.ubuntu.com/1289850/
[17:17] <bazhang> of1, whats the real question
[17:17] <kingfisher64> ok, advice taken. I'll remove wilee-nilee, what would be the easiest way of fully deleting installation and just starting a fresh with 12.10
[17:17] <JmCourir> You guys know if we can run 6 monitors with two different ATI video cards ? One is ATI 5750 and the other one is 7850. I am currently in Windows and it works very good :::)
[17:18] <kostkon> akSeya, as i said, if i remember right, you could try resetting unity.
[17:18] <L3mce> vicky_: read and follow the directions in the link bazhang called ubottu on you with.
[17:18] <kostkon> akSeya, http://www.webupd8.org/2012/10/how-to-reset-compiz-and-unity-in-ubuntu.html
[17:18] <bazhang> !broadcom | vicky_ here it is once more, please read and follow
[17:19] <of1> bazhang, I installed snort latest from source . But the alert file is always empty. Just need help to fix this problem.
[17:19] <sdollins> If you change the resolution/refresh rate, will it stay the same even after reboots/changing monitors?
[17:19] <BeBoo> Hello everyone. Just recently upgraded from 10.10 to 12.04.1 and ever since, the network is extremely slow (4k/sec downloading, ~1 sec pings). Any ideas what I can check? No GUI, just CLI.
[17:19] <kostkon> akSeya, but if you have just upgraded, a reboot wouldn't harm
[17:23] <LambdaDusk> Ubuntu 14.04 will be named Torturous Tortoise which will turn out to be a very fitting name
[17:23] <akSeya> brb
[17:24] <bazhang> LambdaDusk, lets get on topic please
[17:25] <kingfisher64> anybody? how do I remove installation of ubuntu from boot cd? Want to do a "format" of existing ubuntu and start again.
[17:26] <kingfisher64> i'm used to format option being present within a cd boot setup
[17:26] <bazhang> kingfisher64, from the live cd?
[17:26] <kingfisher64> yep
[17:26] <bazhang> kingfisher64, dual boot or no
[17:26] <kingfisher64> no
[17:26] <kingfisher64> just ubuntu 12.10
[17:26] <xangua> kingfisher64: or just install over
[17:26] <deadmund> kingfisher64: it should give you the option to 'replace ubuntu'
[17:26] <bazhang> kingfisher64, then just choose to overwrite it all
[17:27] <bazhang> ie dont save home, or other installs
[17:27] <kingfisher64> right. I made the mistake of installing wrong verion initially (11.10 64 bit) so updated to 12.10 32bit. Been suggested this "update" wasn't recommended so just want to start again.
[17:28] <TheLordOfTime> kingfisher64:  that's correct.  you would need to overwrite i think.
[17:28] <kingfisher64> ok, will do. thanks. Just wanted some advice from people who know more than me. Super.
[17:28] <Radaan> anyone know if 12.10 fixes the network issues for hp touchsmart tx2s?
[17:28] <plague> Hi! Anyone could please provide link to turorial how to set up Apache2 virtual hosts under Ubuntu? Thanks in advance.
[17:28] <bazhang> Radaan, what card
[17:30] <Ali_Bahjati> hey
[17:30] <Ali_Bahjati> any bodies there ?
[17:30] <Radaan> Broadcom 802.11b/g WLAN
[17:30] <yahusha> http://pastebin.com/RCkrPzzZ
[17:30] <bazhang> yahusha, that cinnamon?
[17:31] <bazhang> Radaan, broadcom is well supported
[17:31] <wilee-nilee> peppermint it is a OS
[17:31] <BeBoo> Just recently upgraded from 10.10 to 12.04.1 and ever since, the network is extremely slow (4k/sec downloading, ~1 sec pings). Any ideas that I can check? No GUI, just CLI.
[17:31] <wols> BeBoo: did you directly upgrade from one to the other?
[17:31] <bazhang> !alis | yahusha  search for their channel, it's not supported here
[17:32] <yahusha> bazhang peppermint
[17:32] <|adrian|> is it wrong to type: "gcc -c test.c -o test" to compile the file test.c into the program test?
[17:32] <bazhang> yahusha, see above
[17:32] <BeBoo> wols: from 10.04 to 10.10 to 11.04 (.10?) 12.04 I believe (ran do-release-upgrade three times)
[17:33] <TheRedOctober> Greetings all. When I try to run chkconfig I get a warning /sbin/insserv doesnt exist. Of course if I ln -s the insserv binary it works, but why isn't this autmoatic? Why doesn't chkconfig work out of the box?
[17:33] <|adrian|> stdio.h doesnt seem to be valid
[17:33] <wols> BeBoo: just checking. do you use LAN or WLAN?
[17:33] <BeBoo> wols: LAN
[17:33] <|adrian|> what header file should I use then for std output/input ?
[17:34] <wols> |adrian|: "valid"?
[17:34] <Pici> TheRedOctober: Ubuntu does not use chkconfig at all.
[17:34] <wols> BeBoo: and you only get 4kilobytes/s inside your LAN?
[17:34] <|adrian|> error: stdio.h: No such file or directory, Im probably doing something wrong
[17:34] <wols> !build-essential
[17:34] <Pici> !upstart | TheRedOctober
[17:35] <wols> |adrian|: you need to install it basically
[17:35] <|adrian|> how do I compile the file test.c into the program test in gcc?
[17:35] <trism> |adrian|: gcc -o test test.c; if you use -c you will compile an object file that needs to be linked later
[17:35] <|adrian|> I dont even have gcc?
[17:35] <wols> |adrian|: install build-essential
[17:35] <BeBoo> wols: correct. NS Lookups take a long time, pings near 1 sec. Didn't have this prior to upgrade.
[17:35] <wols> BeBoo: what NIC?
[17:36] <BeBoo> wols: Broadcom
[17:36] <kriston> Got this when trying to burn Ubuntu 12.10 32-bit from Windows Disc Image Burner: "The disc image file is too large and will not fit on the recordable disc."
[17:37] <BeBoo> kriston: need a DVD
[17:37] <kostkon> kriston, yeap, it doesnt fit on a cd, it's 800mb
[17:37] <derp_> indeed
[17:37] <wols> ick. I would check for different kernels. maybe even use an old kernel for trying it out. should be only a kernel issue
[17:37] <wols> BeBoo: also check if you need any kind of firmware for your NIC
[17:37] <plague> Anyone who could please help me with setting up virtual hosts for Apache2?
[17:37] <kriston> Aww, man, it's only like a few kilobytes too big.
[17:37] <BeBoo> wols: well, I did have an issue with every kernel up until 3.2.0 not finding my raid...
[17:37] <kostkon> kriston, few kbs, more like 60mbs
[17:37] <BeBoo> wols: how would I check for that?
[17:38] <TheRedOctober> Pici: what is the preferred service runlevel management tool for upstart? Symbolic links from init.d?
[17:38] <wols> BeBoo: googling mainly. and if you need 3.2 to find your RAID; how did you manage with 10.04?
[17:38] <kriston> kostkon: Yeah I'm prone to hyberbole.
[17:38] <kostkon> kriston, :P you can use a usb stick instead
[17:38] <BeBoo> wols: had to use 2.5 (?) kernel to boot until 3.2 was installed with 12.04.1
[17:39] <BeBoo> wols: 2.6.35-32
[17:39] <wols> BeBoo: 2.6? again: use an old kernel where it worked. it's debugging what you are doing. no one says you need to run it forever
[17:39] <kriston> Thanks for the help.
[17:40] <sh4hriyar> hi there! how to upgrade certain program with apt-get?
[17:41] <llutz> sh4hriyar: "sudo apt-get install foo"
[17:42] <BeBoo> wols: works under old kernel
[17:42] <wols> BeBoo: which means you have a kernel driver problem :(
[17:42] <BeBoo> bah. Ok. How can I make the 2.6 kernel the default so if the server restarts, I don't have to worry about it?
[17:43] <sh4hriyar> llutz: well, it refers to old repo which relies on ubuntu release cycle principle, I want to upgrade directly but I forgot
[17:43] <wols> BeBoo: grub in /etc/default/grub  the GRUB_DEFAULT setting
[17:43] <wols> then update-grub
[17:44] <MonkeyDust> BeBoo  better don't mess with old kernels in new systems
[17:44] <XiaolinDraconis> i cant figure out where to set how many walls i have
[17:44] <XiaolinDraconis> been all over compiz config
[17:44] <BeBoo> MonkeyDust: old HP from 2004-ish... lol
[17:45] <trism> zefoij: looks like http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=677191
[17:45] <BeBoo> wols: it's set to 0. I don't know what to set it to (the old kernel is listed under "Previous Ubuntu Systems" or something at the bootloader
[17:45] <wols> BeBoo: it's not the hardware that is the problem but a possibly changed userland
[17:45] <wols> BeBoo: for example in the future some ubuntu might use a different filesystem for which your old kernel has no support anymore. or the firewall package wants to set options that your netfilter can't, etc
[17:45] <BeBoo> wols: I'm going to be retiring this server soon anyway. Only hosts our website.
[17:46] <sh4hriyar> Did 12.04.1 added new Intel KMS support for Optimus drivers, eh?
[17:46] <ThothCastel> I now have access to the internet on my laptop and am trying to install the wireless driver for a broadcom 4311
[17:46] <BeBoo> wols: I assume that is why 3.0 didn't work for me.
[17:46] <ThothCastel> I did everything...   and on the dropdown menu says: wiress networks, devicew no ready (firmware missing)
[17:46] <sh4hriyar> llutz: do you know it? it was like "sudo apt-get foobar --upgrade" dunno exactly
[17:47] <ThothCastel> I have installed the firmware-b43-installer package and it didn't work
[17:47] <wols> ThothCastel: it clearly tells you what the problem is...
[17:47] <ThothCastel> then I tried the firmware-b43-lpphy-installer
[17:47] <ThothCastel> and had the same results
[17:47] <wols> b43 has no firmware package. all you can do is install the package and use it to extract firmware from a windows driver
[17:47] <ThothCastel> help please
[17:47] <ThothCastel> ubuntu 12.04 version, inspiron 1525
[17:47] <wols> ThothCastel: and there is documentation how to do that. usually included with that package too
[17:48] <ThothCastel> wols: I am new to linux, I am trying to install the right firmware.... but it doesn't seem to work!  :)
[17:48] <zefoij> trism: i don't understand the fix
[17:48] <Pici> !enter
[17:48] <ThothCastel> what should I do?
[17:48] <sh4hriyar> Why nobody responds this simple question? how to upgrade certain program with aptitude into terminal?
[17:48] <wols> ThothCastel: I just told you that you cannot install it
[17:49] <Pici> sh4hriyar: someone already responded to you.
[17:49] <kostkon> sh4hriyar, which one and why?
[17:49] <wols> sh4hriyar: cause it already was answered above
[17:49] <ThothCastel> wols: I've read some of them....
[17:49] <Pici> sh4hriyar: <llutz> sh4hriyar: "sudo apt-get install foo"
[17:49] <L3mce> !bcm43xx | ThothCastel
[17:49] <bazhang> sh4hriyar, which exact program, which version of ubuntu
[17:49] <wols> sh4hriyar: < llutz> sh4hriyar: "sudo apt-get install foo"
[17:49] <sh4hriyar> Pici: that *body did not make sense with that answer
[17:49] <mapleleafjack> Hey, could someone help me? I have a PC with 2 video card, but only one monitor works. How can i get it to work?
[17:50] <Pici> sh4hriyar: Then we don't understand your question.
[17:50] <ThothCastel> L3mce: thanks a lot for the link
[17:50] <L3mce> sh4hriyar: there is no official support for optimus from nVidia... you can install bumblebee/bumblebee-nvidia for 3rd party support.
[17:50] <sh4hriyar> bazhang: youtube-dl, it's broken in old repos, i need to upgrade directly from aptitude
[17:50] <WeThePeople> thothcastel, i have a script that you may use, hold on i will find it :)
[17:50] <bazhang> sh4hriyar, what version of ubuntu
[17:50] <sh4hriyar> L3mce: the hell are you talking about? i have no such issues
[17:50] <ThothCastel> WeThePeople: I 'd appreciate that!  thanks a loty
[17:50] <sh4hriyar> bazhang: 12.04.1
[17:50] <bazhang> !attitude | sh4hriyar
[17:51] <zefoij> sh4hriyar: try youtube-dl -U
[17:51] <trism> zefoij: the workaround for now appears to be: sudo apt-get install emacsen-common; (this will fail) sudo /usr/lib/emacsen-common/emacs-remove xemacs21; sudo apt-get install emacsen-common; untested by me though
 Did 12.04.1 added new Intel KMS support for Optimus drivers, eh?
[17:51] <sh4hriyar> zefoij: kk
[17:51] <zefoij> trism: ye the remove part seemed to work thanks
[17:51] <sh4hriyar> zefoij: thanks
[17:52] <sh4hriyar> zefoij: does that flag work for any program?
[17:52] <zefoij> sh4hriyar: no it's specific to youtube-dl
[17:52] <zefoij> when you want to upgrade your programs, just do "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade"
[17:53] <sh4hriyar> oh  im sorry for blaming others then, i thought it's a general upgrade method
[17:53] <plague> Anyone could please assist me with setting up virtual hosts on Apache2?
[17:53] <zefoij> ye it's general it will upgrade all of your programs
[17:53] <sh4hriyar> ik sudo apt-get update && upgrade btw
[17:53] <kostkon> sh4hriyar, nope
[17:54] <sh4hriyar> nope?
[17:54] <kostkon> sh4hriyar, sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[17:54] <sh4hriyar> lol
[17:54] <IdleOne> sh4hriyar: to upgrade a specific application like youtube-dl you would do sudo apt-get install youtube-dl , this will only upgrade if there is an upgrade available in the repositories.
[17:54] <zefoij> IdleOne: the problem is that for youtube-dl, the version in the repositories doesn't work, so you need to upgrade it manually with youtube-dl -U
[17:54] <drostie> If unity is slow to recognize resize and move actions, is it because unity sucks, or just because unity sucks when on USB? This may be relevant to whether I install Ubuntu or just upgrade Kubuntu. :D
[17:55] <hipzen> Hey, I was wondering if anybody has experienced that after upgrading from 12.04 to 12.10, then display is fixed to 1024x768?
[17:55] <IdleOne> zefoij: ah, well that is like you said a youtube-dl specific fix
[17:55] <wols> hipzen: what videocard and how did you install your drivers in 12.04?
[17:55] <sh4hriyar> IdleOne: there is no upgrade in repos due to release cycle principle of Ubuntu, i just have to use youtube-dl (or any other program) specifi update flag, like zef* mentioned above -U
[17:55] <Pici> sh4hriyar: Most programs don't have an option like that. youtube-dl is special.
[17:55] <BeBoo> wols: how do I know what number to assign grub_default?
[17:56] <zefoij> sh4hriyar: btw yes, that's the only program i know of that you should upgrade like that
[17:56] <ElixirVitae> Hi~
[17:56] <zefoij> for every thing else just use apt-get
[17:56] <wols> BeBoo: IIRC grub counts from zero. but I dunno in what way ubuntu changed the scripts
[17:56] <xangua>  sh4hriyar youtube-dl has a ppe i believe
[17:56] <wilee-nilee> drostie, A usb will run slower, and it is as if you think we care what you install.
[17:56] <ElixirVitae> I was meaning to ask, what is the difference between ubuntu and goobuntu?
[17:56] <hipzen> wols: drivers were automatically installed in 12.04 - videocard is ATI Mobility Radeon HD 4570
[17:57] <BeBoo> wols: Thats what I figured. However, in the listing, it list 3.2, 3.2 recovery then "previous systems" - if I choose that, then I get the option for 2.6 so I have no idea what option that would be.
[17:57] <WeThePeople> thothcastel, did you solve the problem yet?
[17:57] <WeThePeople> i have the script
[17:57] <wols> hipzen: radeon should work fine. maybe check your Xorg.0.log and xrandr output
[17:57] <ThothCastel> no, not yet :)
[17:57] <ThothCastel> WeThePeople: not yet :)
[17:57] <sh4hriyar> L3mce: by the way, do you know what is KMS DRM? P.S.: I'm already running bumblebee optirun, installed 12.04.1 today after a while of linuxless life hehe..but noticed Intel kernel module loading while boot-up, this sounded interesting
[17:57] <OerHeks> ElixirVitae, goobuntu is a tweaked google ubuntu, they use it internally AFAIK
[17:58] <wols> !kms
[17:58] <wilee-nilee> ElixirVitae, That is basically off topic.
[17:58] <WeThePeople> please correct me if i am wrong, you need to install the driver for a broadcom nic?
[17:58] <wols> sh4hriyar: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kernel_mode-setting
[17:58] <XiaolinDraconis> im changing alt+f4 behaviour to start xkill, if i make alt+shift+f4 run killall xkill, that will cancel it right?
[17:58] <sh4hriyar> L3mce: sorry for delay, i was tied up at that moment, but  i really appreciate your help+)
[17:58] <WeThePeople> 4311
[17:58] <ElixirVitae> oh, sorry
[17:58] <ElixirVitae> I should run over to off-topic then
[17:58] <ElixirVitae> !topic
[17:58] <wols> WeThePeople: usually not. but with broadcom anything's possible. it would help if you tell us which chip exactly
[17:58] <Pici> plague: See https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/serverguide/httpd.html#http-configuration and http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.2/vhosts/name-based.html , but be aware that Ubuntu stores its config files in /etc/apache2/sites-available/
[17:59] <sh4hriyar> wols: guys i don't have such an issue, just wondered who knows news in Ubuntu
[17:59] <plague> Pici thanks I will check that!
[17:59] <WeThePeople> thothcastel, see above
[17:59] <hipzen> wols, which directory do they usually end up in?
[17:59] <wols> sh4hriyar: you have no clue. and some grave issues. have a nice day
[17:59] <Pici> plague: The folks in #httpd are also available if you have more questions.
[17:59] <WeThePeople> wols, see thothcastel..
[17:59] <wols> hipzen: xrandr is a program, logfiles are in /var/log/
[18:00] <kostkon> sh4hriyar, the intel driver got updated 2-3 days ago on 12.04
[18:00] <WeThePeople> thothcastel, please correct me if i am wrong, you need to install the driver for a broadcom nic?
[18:00] <wols> WeThePeople: he does. a b43
[18:00] <WeThePeople> ok
[18:00] <sh4hriyar> wols: lol i liked this update though, i had to install bumblebee to get ubuntu 3D work, but now it auto renders Intel driver so it loads without pain, good job=)
[18:01] <ThothCastel> WeThePeople: yes, install driver broadcom 4311 for a laptop inspiron 1525
[18:01] <sh4hriyar> kostkon: i didn't know there are people working on Intel KMS support for linux, but maybe they emulated iXsystems code, ha?
[18:01] <drostie> does anyone else get a problem that unity thinks picking your finger off your touchpad is a "click"? Because this is going to annoy the heck out of me.
[18:02] <drostie> is there a way to fix it?
[18:02] <kostkon> sh4hriyar, no idea
[18:02] <plague> Pici thanks a lot!
[18:02] <drostie> a *right* click no less, which makes no sense whatsoever.
[18:03] <hipzen> wols, xrandr output: xrandr: Failed to get size of gamma for output device. Screen 0: Minimum 1024 x 768, current 1024 x 768, maximum 1024 x 768
[18:03] <wilee-nilee> drostie, Turn down the sensitivity I would think, tons of laptops have touchpads, think about your hypothesis for a moment.
[18:04] <drostie> wilee-nilee: I've turned the touchpad sensitivity down as far as it can go and it's still messed up.
[18:04] <wols> hipzen: check your log then
[18:05] <hipzen> wols, tbh I don't know where to look ;-)
[18:05] <ThothCastel> Hey, WeThePeople...  how will the script work?
[18:05] <ThothCastel> would you like to use pastebin?
[18:05] <sh4hriyar> kostkon: ubuntu is doing great, but with current driver(intel) i get up to 69 fps, comparing with  bumblebee nvidia i get more than 500 fps in glxgears -this means we need full Optimus support yet
[18:05] <WeThePeople> thothcastel, copy and paste each script into terminal one at a time and press enter after EACH script>>> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1289977/
[18:05] <ThothCastel> I really appreciate that...   I ve been trying to make it work for 4 days!
[18:06] <kostkon> sh4hriyar, be patient, we'll get there :)
[18:06] <ThothCastel> WeThePeople: ok, I will do that and be back in a minute..   thansk a lot for that!
[18:06] <ThothCastel> :)
[18:06] <vicky_> bazhang: thanx its working
[18:06] <sh4hriyar> I heard nVidia works on  Optimus natively support in linux, but it will take years :S
[18:06] <wols> hipzen: pastebin it
[18:07] <wilee-nilee> drostie, here is the man page to checkout while you wait. ;) http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/precise/man4/synaptics.4.html
[18:07] <WeThePeople> thothcastel, when you are done with all the scripts reboot computer
[18:08] <wols> WeThePeople: shouldn't he check first if the firmware is where it is?
[18:08] <wols> rather: where it should be
[18:08] <WeThePeople> wols, it will install to proper location
[18:09] <hipzen> wols, http://pastebin.com/NHj6Xhny
[18:09] <drostie> wilee-nilee: thanks, but what precisely are you saying am I waiting for?
[18:10] <drostie> besides for unity to be functional? :>
[18:10] <wols> WeThePeople: that's not why I asked this
[18:10] <wilee-nilee> drostie, Someone to answer you problem with a solution.
[18:10] <wols> WeThePeople: ther eis no point rebooting unless the firmware file is there. so one should check
[18:11] <wilee-nilee> your*
[18:11] <ReEngineerEN> hey
[18:11] <ReEngineerEN> :D
[18:12] <drostie> wilee-nilee: while I appreciate your conviction in my ability to stick around here and complain, I think I'll just go back to Kubuntu. I've had enough of XChat marking the words "I've" and "doesn't" as typos anyway. ^_^
[18:12] <wilee-nilee> drostie, Hehe follow your bliss. ;)
[18:12] <drostie> But Unity is coming along nicely and I hope in a year or two it can actually work as a reasonable desktop environment. :D
[18:12] <drostie> I actually like the launcher and stuff.
[18:13] <wols> hipzen: you don't use the standard driver. you use fglrx. use the ubuntu standard driver "radeon"
[18:14] <wilee-nilee> drostie, I use hexchat you can add word to the dictionary I suspect xchat has this as well.
[18:14] <akSeya> ok.. i removed all configs from 12.04 and with ccsm got almost everything the way I want.. the only thing missing is really the variations in window buttons.. in some apps they are on the left on others on the right... i would like them to be all on the left, like the default...
[18:14] <troulouliou_dev> hi does anybody here have a dual boot Win8 - Ubuntu
[18:14] <troulouliou_dev> ?
[18:15] <ReEngineerEN> i do
[18:15] <ReEngineerEN> :3
[18:15] <bekks> troulouliou_dev: What happens if someone says "yes"?
[18:15] <wilee-nilee> !ask > troulouliou_dev
[18:15] <akSeya> some apps that shows buttons on the right: pidgin, skype, xchat, libreoffice
[18:15] <ardchoille> wilee-nilee: actually xchat sees "doesn't" as two words; "doesn" and "t", there's no way to add "doesn't" to the dict
[18:15] <troulouliou_dev> bekks, ReEngineerEN i would like to be able to mount the drive from win 8 from nautilus
[18:15] <hipzen> wols, ok, thank you. I'll try google for an answer how to do that :-)
[18:15] <troulouliou_dev> but it fails cause mount needs the remove_hiberfile option
[18:15] <bekks> troulouliou_dev: Then just do it - it's an NTFS drive.
[18:15] <bekks> Then create a fstab entry.
[18:16] <troulouliou_dev> it works from the command line but i would like to configure nautilus to do it
[18:16] <wilee-nilee> ardchoille, Hexchat is the same, I guess english composition is a challenge at times for all of us.
[18:16] <akSeya> actually.. now looks like all window buttons are on the right... only when maximized they appear on the left
[18:16] <wilee-nilee> ardchoille, It is like a second language here. ;)
[18:16] <akSeya> is this the expected behavior?
[18:17] <troulouliou_dev> bekks, isn't there a way to configure nautilus to add options to mount ?
[18:17] <wilee-nilee> akSeya, With unity they are going to be on the left when maximized.
[18:17] <bekks> troulouliou_dev: I dont know of such a way. Just use your fstab.
[18:18] <wilee-nilee> akSeya,The top panel is part of the window when maxed
[18:19] <akSeya> wilee-nilee, that's ok, but how about the window buttons position when not maxed?
[18:19] <wilee-nilee> troulouliou_dev, W8 should show in the left panel.
[18:19] <kadisou> server irc.epiknet.org
[18:20] <Marcin_> Hi, i would like to try Ubuntu with WUBI, i downloaded the file, but if I start it after some seconds the file vanishes from taskmanager and nothing happens
[18:20] <wilee-nilee> akSeya, You can have them on the left or right.
[18:20] <wilee-nilee> Marcin_, you have the wubi download .exe the latest?
[18:21] <joeljgarrett> I am trying to load lubuntu 12.04 to an old inspiron 8000 usng the regular 386 CD.  I have verified the MD5SUM of the iso and then checked the CD from the main menu when booting the install CD - the install appears to go ok several splash screens go by but when the lubuntu 12.04 screen wiith the black background instead of the blue comes up things just seem to stop happening.  Is there some way to log the progress of the instal
[18:21] <joeljgarrett> errors that might be coming up?
[18:21] <Marcin_> yeah I just downloaded it
[18:21] <wilee-nilee> !nomodeset > joeljgarrett
[18:21] <Marcin_> i tested wubi which is in the UBUNTU Iso
[18:21] <tyurrrr> How can I install QuickTime on Ubuntu 12.04 ?
[18:21] <Marcin_> and from the ubuntu side too
[18:21] <hipzen> wols, changing from fglrx to radeon would mean editing /etc/X11/xorg.conf from Section "Module" < Load "glx" < Endsection to "radeon", right?
[18:21] <Marcin_> both the same
[18:22] <diverdude> Hello. is it possible to startup firefox automatically when ubuntu boots?
[18:22] <diverdude> so that the first thing that pops up is firefox...automatically
[18:22] <xangua> tyurrrr: why would you want to install that¿
[18:22] <xangua> diverdude: power icon> startup apps
[18:23] <wilee-nilee> Marcin_, Wubi does not run from the ISO has not for some time
[18:23] <tyurrrr> I would install QuickTime to see .mov videos, is there another method to open this type of movies ?
[18:23] <carlisle_> tyurrrr: VLC Player
[18:23] <Marcin_> yeah, but i donwloaded also the exe from ubuntu site
[18:24] <hipzen> tyurrrr, vlc player - I believe Kino can handle them too
[18:24] <wols> hipzen: no. it would mean to uninstall all fglrx packages and remiving xorg.conf
[18:24] <kingfisher64> just wiped ubuntu 11.10 to 12.10, but it's horrendiously slow. I'm using the system as a nas server. It's virtually unusable. Is there anything I can do to improve the performance in 12.10?
[18:24] <hipzen> wols, sounds like console work, eh? ;-)
[18:24] <tyurrrr> Can I install VLC with the command : "sudo apt-get install vlc" ?
[18:24] <test3> tyurrrr: try it
[18:24] <Sicp> how do I disable drivers that have been enabled from System Settings > Additional Drivers?
[18:24] <wols> not really. I'm sure there is some howto on some ubuntu site for uninstalling fglrx.
[18:25] <xangua> tyurrrr: or just install the codecs
[18:25] <Sicp> after having enabled them, I am no longer able to see anything but the TTY
[18:25] <wols> hipzen: see? Sicp has the same problem
[18:25] <Sicp> I want to disable them now
[18:25] <wols> Sicp: uninstall them like any other package
[18:25] <xangua> tyurrrr: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[18:25] <Chella> hi all
[18:25] <carlisle_> tyurrrr: if you're looking for a package you can always use 'aptitude search'
[18:25] <Sicp> I didn't install them, and I don't know their names as packages
[18:25] <Chella> I need your help
[18:25] <kingfisher64> is 12.04 drastically quicker than 12.10?
[18:25] <Chella> may be someone can explain me about ubuntu
[18:25] <hipzen> wols, that would make it a known bug, eh? ;-)
[18:25] <Sicp> does "Enabling" them in Additional Drivers mean "installing them" for Ubuntu?
[18:25] <MonkeyDust> kingfisher64  some things I use, picked up in this channel http://paste.ubuntu.com/1289542/
[18:25] <joeljgarrett> ubottu - does it matter that I am able to cleanly boot lubuntu from the cdrom
[18:26] <wilee-nilee> Marcin_, The .exe should download the OS, not sure but having the ISO there may be causing a problem here is the wubi wiki. Please use nicks in the channel. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WubiGuide
[18:26] <tyurrrr> I have just installed VLC, Thanks ! :-)
[18:26] <test3> Sicp: yes
[18:26] <wilee-nilee> joeljgarrett, This is installed correct?
[18:26] <Sicp> I see
[18:26] <Chella> is ubuntu faster than windows?
[18:26] <ThothCastel> WeThePeople: I run the scripts...
[18:26] <ThothCastel> not working    :)
[18:27] <kingfisher64> it's only a pentium 4, 2gb ram, 2tb hd MonkeyDust. I'm shocked at the performance difference
[18:27] <tyurrrr> Goodbye
[18:27] <ThothCastel> WeThePeople: I don't see the wireless connection on the dorpdown
[18:27] <xangua> !ubuntu | Chella test it yourself ;)
[18:27] <wilee-nilee> Chella, To many variables and a offtopic question.
[18:27] <dontknow> Chella, i confirm that win7 is fater than ubuntu
[18:27] <joeljgarrett> wilee-nilee I can boot from the try lubuntu option fine, it just won't install all the way if I pick the install option
[18:27] <WeThePeople> thothcastel, i found some typos ing the script so here it is again, sry.. http://paste.ubuntu.com/1290019/
[18:27] <Chella> then why people use ubuntu?
[18:28] <MonkeyDust> Chella  to work with their pc
[18:28] <carlisle_> Chella: because linux is great!
[18:28] <carlisle_> also, ignore what that other guy said
[18:28] <carlisle_> 'faster' is pretty subjective
[18:28] <bazhang> !ot | Chella
[18:28] <test3> !guidelines
[18:28] <xangua> carlisle_: the other said that it was 'fater' :)
[18:28] <ThothCastel> WeThePeople: ok... thank you :)
[18:29] <kingfisher64> can someone tell me is 12.04 much quicker than 12.10? I've installed 11.10, 12.10 already and am not happy with the performance. I'll install 12.04 if it's closer to 11.10 in speed "performance"
[18:29] <wilee-nilee> joeljgarrett, Have you tried a nomodeset boot of the cd or maybe try the alternative cd, still available in 12.04
[18:29] <Chella> really red hat 5 ten years ago and then I was using kde and gnome
[18:29] <test3> kingfisher64: 12.04 is pretty fast
[18:29] <Chella> and it was only taking a lot of space and didn't have much choices too
[18:29] <bazhang> kingfisher64, there are many variables involved with that: ram cpu etc hard to say
[18:29] <WeThePeople> thothcastel, hold on i found 1 more typo,, grrr
[18:30] <wilee-nilee> joeljgarrett,Sounds like a graphic issue of some sort even if the cd  boots to the desktop
[18:30] <Chella> and the major problem was when I went to the root, it started to become unstable
[18:30] <bazhang> Chella, this is ubuntu support only
[18:30] <wols> hipzen: depends. what happened is, amd stopped supporting 4000 series GPUs with their driver
[18:30] <bazhang> Chella, chit chat in #ubuntu-offtopic NOT here
[18:30] <Chella> I know but red hat also either brother or sister of ubuntu
[18:30] <hipzen> wols, oh...
[18:30] <kingfisher64> I know but only an hour ago I asked you and a few others bazhang about removing 11.10 and putting 12.10 on. It's now on, but unusable. Same machine different ubuntu version.
[18:31] <wols> hipzen: but since you had the driver installed with 12.04 or whatever, it simply updated the package to the new driver which doesn't support the gpu anymore
[18:31] <MonkeyDust> kingfisher64  phoronix.com has extensive bechmark tests, maybe take a look on that site
[18:31] <joeljgarrett> wilee-nilee I will try the nomodeset that ubottu suggested, I wasn't sure if the fact that the black screen has lubuntu 12.04 on the middle of it with the 4 dots underneath and the busy spinner is going and things just seem to stop happening, Wondering if this is different from what the nomodeset fix option fixes.
[18:31] <Chella> red hat was also linux based kernel or not?
[18:31] <bazhang> Chella, this is the wrong place for it.   #ubuntu-offtopic
[18:31] <kingfisher64> will do MonkeyDust
[18:31] <MonkeyDust> Chella  you're in the wrong channel
[18:31] <Chella> I don't know much about computers like you guys but...........................
[18:31] <hipzen> wols, ok, I've removed everything related to fglrx - I'll try rebooting
[18:31] <bekks> Chella: The "kernel" is "linux". everything else is just the userland.
[18:32] <bazhang> Chella, stop with the chit chat
[18:32] <hipzen> wols, thanks for the help :-)
[18:32] <wilee-nilee> joeljgarrett, nomodset is just a graphic change boot it does not intrinsically fix anything
[18:32] <joeljgarrett> wilee-nilee i'll give that a try and then the alternative cd if that doesn't do it.
[18:33] <kingfisher64> ok, don't mind removing 12.10 and putting 12.04 on if performance is going to be greatly improved
[18:33] <dontknow> is there a spesific channel about unity dash?
[18:33] <joeljgarrett> wilee-nilee thanks for the suggestions and advice
[18:33] <bazhang> dontknow, not really no
[18:33] <dontknow> bazhang, i want to talk about its legal notices
[18:33] <wilee-nilee> joeljgarrett, You might look at the mini cd a net install if you want it trimmed down and more choice
[18:34] <bazhang> dontknow, which are those
[18:34] <ThothCastel> WeThePeople: is that the good one?
[18:35] <dontknow> bazhang, legal notice in dash says, "if you turn off the online search results we don't give your keywords to 3rd party" it means canonical will still have the records
[18:35] <joeljgarrett> wilee-nilee, the device I'm trying to install on has 512MB RAM and 20GB HD perhaps the isntaller is running out of RAM with the 386CD?  How do I get this mini CD net install?
[18:36] <carlisle_> joeljgarrett: you can find it on the downloads page, one sec let me grab you a link
[18:36] <carlisle_> joeljgarrett: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/alternative-downloads
[18:36] <bekks> dontknow: For me, it sounds like Canonical doesnt have any keywords unless activating online search results.
[18:36] <bazhang> dontknow, no idea sorry
[18:36] <joeljgarrett> is this the alternate cd?
[18:36] <wilee-nilee> joeljgarrett, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD
[18:36] <WeThePeople> thothcastel, again sry.. run this>>> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1290033/
[18:36] <carlisle_> joeljgarrett: the network install cd is not the alternate cd
[18:36] <bazhang> joeljgarrett, 12.10 has no alternate cd
[18:36] <carlisle_> ^
[18:36] <PyGuy> Hey can someone tell me how to acquire the nvidia drivers in Ubuntu 12.10?
[18:36] <wilee-nilee> joeljgarrett, The alternate is a full cd but a text install.
[18:36] <bekks> joeljgarrett: No. Thats the minimal CD. :)
[18:37] <bekks> PyGuy: apt-get install nvidia-current
[18:37] <wols> bazhang: the netinst is still a text mode installer, right?
[18:37] <bazhang> wilee-nilee, yes,  but dropped for 12.10
[18:37] <bazhang> wols, I'd assume it must be
[18:37] <wols> bazhang: kinda like a "little alternate CD" :)
[18:37] <dontknow> bekks, no, it doesn't say like that, it says we don't share with 3rd party
[18:37] <joeljgarrett> OK everyone, I've definitely got a few alternatives to try, thanks for the help
[18:37] <wilee-nilee> bazhang, Yes, the user is installing 12.04
[18:37] <carlisle_> the network installers have always been text based
[18:37] <bazhang> ncurses?
[18:37] <bazhang> wilee-nilee, ok thanks
[18:38] <IdleOne> dontknow: that would be something you would need to ask Canonical about.
[18:38] <wilee-nilee> bazhang, good eye. ;)
[18:38] <bekks> dontknow: I read it the way that Canonical doesnt share the online results which only exist when activating them.
[18:38] <hipzen> wols, just a quick thanks - that did the trick :-)
[18:39] <dontknow> bekks, you got wrong then
[18:39] <bekks> dontknow: How de we know wether I got them wrong or you got them wrong. You have no proof :)
[18:39] <dontknow> IdleOne, if the legal notice is clear, why should i ask canonical about?
[18:39] <e\ectro> trying to run a sudo do-release-upgrade and getting no new version found
[18:40] <e\ectro> Description:    Ubuntu 12.04.1 LTS
[18:40] <PyGuy> Is there a way to get rid of the static that's flickering on the text in Ubuntu 12.10?
[18:40] <wilee-nilee> e\ectro, from what to what release?
[18:40] <e\ectro>  sudo do-release-upgrade
[18:40] <e\ectro> Checking for a new Ubuntu release
[18:40] <e\ectro> No new release found
[18:40] <bazhang> e\ectro, make sure check for lts only is disabled
[18:40] <dontknow> bekks, because i can read even if my first language is not english
[18:40] <e\ectro> ah thanks
[18:40] <xangua> e\ectro: software center-edit-sources-updates-enable normal release upgrade
[18:40] <IdleOne> dontknow: apparently it is not clear, that is why you have questions about it. ask Canonical to clear up any questions you might have. We are not lawyers and can't answer for them.
[18:41] <bekks> dontknow: And I can read too. And I am understanding them another way than you. So it is pointless to discuss who's right unless someone can prove his/her point of view.
[18:41] <dontknow> IdleOne, i am wondering if some knowledgeble person analyze the data what it sends
[18:41] <carlisle_> i think that kind of information is outside the scope of what this channel might be able to provide dontknow
[18:41] <carlisle_> ;)
[18:42] <IdleOne> dontknow: This is not on topic for this channel. All I can suggest is that you email Canonical and ask them to clarify exactly what that notices means.
[18:42] <ESphynx> Congrats on the release everyone =)
[18:42] <LuizAngioletti> Hello there!
[18:42] <LuizAngioletti> I'm using U12.04 Server
[18:42] <PyGuy> I'm getting a sort of static effect all over certain icons and text. How do I get rid of it? (12.10)
[18:43] <LuizAngioletti> I'd like to know where are the files that the command loadkeys operate with...
[18:43] <Chimistu`> hi everyone
[18:43] <islandmonkey> PyGuy: Sounds more like a bug to me
[18:43] <islandmonkey> Chimistu`: Hi Dr. Nick!
[18:43] <kingfisher64> sounds like I might be better with a light version of ubuntu. anybody any suggestions from personal experience?
[18:44] <carlisle_> LuizAngioletti: from the man page: If  the  -d  (or  --default  )  option is given, loadkeys loads a default keymap, probably the file defkeymap.map either in /usr/share/keymaps or in /usr/src/linux/drivers/char.
[18:44] <islandmonkey> kingfisher: Xubuntu/Lubuntu
[18:44] <bazhang> !lubuntu | kingfisher64
[18:44] <e\ectro> xangua: perfect :)  thanks!
[18:44] <LuizAngioletti> kingfisher64: I'd use the 10.04, it's LTS and not so heavy (graphically)
[18:44] <wilee-nilee> LuizAngioletti, LTS for only six more months
[18:44] <Chimistu`> can i ask a question?
[18:45] <islandmonkey> !ask | Chimistu`
[18:45] <kingfisher64> 11.10 is fine but 12.10 is not. I only want to install a couple of web browsers for testing and virtualbox so I can use freenas.
[18:45] <LuizAngioletti> carlisle_: the directory /usr/share/keymaps doesn't exist in my install.
[18:45] <Chimistu`> ooops, ok, sorry! :D
[18:45] <kingfisher64> I was looking at lubuntu
[18:45] <Sexy-Girl-Buntu_> anyone fix this?http://paste.ubuntu.com/1290050/
[18:45] <xangua> !here | Sexy-Girl-Buntu_
[18:45] <carlisle_> LuizAngioletti: check the man page on your version and see if it says differently
[18:45] <Sexy-Girl-Buntu_> xangua, can YOU fix this? http://paste.ubuntu.com/1290050/
[18:45] <xangua> ...
[18:45] <carlisle_> also that is from a debian machine, sorry
[18:46] <carlisle_> i dont think the man pages would be different though
[18:46] <kingfisher64> will go with lubuntu then thanks bazhang, ubottu
[18:46] <stiv2k> hello i downloaded ubuntu-12.10-server-i386, checked md5sum, burned to a CD-RW, but it wont boot up in this computer...help please
[18:46] <LuizAngioletti> carlisle_: it says the same as you... =/ But I'm unable to find the keymap files.
[18:46] <papachan> now i am running ubuntu 12.10
[18:46] <islandmonkey> Sexy-Girl-Buntu_: Looks like a bug
[18:46] <papachan> all thinks ok
[18:47] <wilee-nilee> stiv2k, we assume you know how to set the bios and burned this as a image slowly, do you know the out of bios boot menu?
[18:47] <stiv2k> wilee-nilee, yes, i press ESC at the bios POST screen to choose the CDROM as the boot device but it apparently does not find anything bootable on it
[18:47] <Chimistu`> I've just installed Ubuntu 12.10 (upgrade). When I visit different websites, a popup pops up asking me whether I want to install an app for extra features and better access. I was just wondering if what I'm about to install comes from Ubuntu (official repository?) or from the different sites? It's safe to install those extensions?
[18:48] <LuizAngioletti> carlisle_: inside /usr/src/linux/drivers/char/ the file defkeymap.map doesn't exist.
[18:48] <LuizAngioletti> carlisle_: In my case, the system was installed with brazilian keyboard layout.
[18:48] <carlisle_> LuizAngioletti: LuizAngioletti i'm poking around right now to see if i can track it down
[18:48] <wilee-nilee> stiv2k, Should boot there, you can check the md5 of the actual disc as well.
[18:48] <ardchoille> stiv2k: did you burn the ISO as an image to the CD or copy the ISO file to the CD?
[18:48] <stiv2k> wilee-nilee how?
[18:48] <Sexy-Girl-Buntu_> islandmonkey, yea
[18:48] <carlisle_> it doesn't look like the keymaps file is provided by kbd, the package loadkeys is provided by
[18:48] <wilee-nilee> !md5sum
[18:48] <iceroot> Chimistu`: the browser itself has no access to the ubuntu repository so the addons are coming from somewhere else
[18:48] <Sexy-Girl-Buntu_> islandmonkey, how to fix?
[18:49] <stiv2k> ardchoille, in linux, i right click on the iso and choose to burn to disc
[18:49] <ardchoille> ok
[18:49] <anflogger> anyone can help me with the installation of Lubuntu 12.04? I need to install it with my windows xp sp3 ...
[18:49] <islandmonkey> Chimistu`: Is it possible for you to take a screenshot of this 'popup', post it to somewhere like imgur and link it here?
[18:49] <LuizAngioletti> carlisle_: Ok. I used 'loadkeys us' to change the layout to the keyboard I'm using now... But I got curious.. =)
[18:49] <Toph2> I just installed ubuntu 12.04 onto a 120G SSD. I have 2 other HHD on the system. The install went fine, but grub doesn't see the SSD. Any suggestions?
[18:49] <bazhang> Chimistu`, the webapps for such as google, gmail and the like?
[18:50] <carlisle_> LuizAngioletti: ya i'm not sure sorry :(
[18:50] <bazhang> iceroot, its something new. webapps
[18:50] <wilee-nilee> Toph2, Do you know which OS has the grub control it would be at the top of grub, run sudo update-grub in that OS.
[18:50] <LuizAngioletti> carlisle_: thx anyway
[18:50] <LuizAngioletti> anyone else?
[18:50] <Chimistu`> yes, the websites are safe (Yahoo, Gmail, Youtube, facebook, etc)
[18:50] <ThothCastel> WeThePeople: not working buddy
[18:51] <ardchoille> bazhang: Chimistu` s issue kinda sounds like an attempted malware install, no?
[18:51] <islandmonkey> Sexy-Girl-Buntu_: It's a bug that needs reporting. It's not a problem that could be easily fixed by a non-developer?
[18:51] <carlisle_> LuizAngioletti: if you wanna be hardcore use 'strace' to see where it's loading files from
[18:51] <bazhang> Chimistu`, you wish to install them? turn that feature off?
[18:51] <iceroot> bazhang: ah this "type new in the unity thing at it will show "new message" and will create a new mail with the browser in gmail?
[18:51] <ardchoille> oh, I guess I was wrong, then
[18:51] <Toph2> wildc4rd,,, ok,, i'll try,, a previous version on a different HD has control,, i'm in that now and will try.
[18:51] <islandmonkey> Sexy-Girl-Buntu_: Sorry don't know why I put a question mark there :)
[18:51] <bazhang> ardchoille, its a webapps thing, new to 12.10
[18:51] <ardchoille> bazhang: ah, ok.. looking forward to using that then
[18:52] <WeThePeople> thothcastel, did you start with nothing install first, delete all the packages before running the scripts
[18:52] <anflogger> anyone can help me with the installation of Lubuntu 12.04? I need to install it with my windows xp sp3 ...
[18:52] <WeThePeople> installed*
[18:52] <bazhang> iceroot, I dont know the particulars but that sounds right, and its part of ubuntu 12.10
[18:52] <wilee-nilee> Toph2, You can the set the control in any OS by booting to it then running sudo grub-install /dev/sdX    X is the disc it is on
[18:52] <LuizAngioletti> carlisle_: how would I do that?
[18:52] <wilee-nilee> then*
[18:52] <iceroot> bazhang: ok thanks for the info
[18:52] <LuizAngioletti> carlisle_: is it as simples as trace <command>?
[18:52] <islandmonkey> anflogger: What's wrong with it?
[18:52] <Chimistu`> no, it could be cool to have them, I was just curious if it's ok (safe) to install them, as the message only pops up when I actually connect to those websites (Yahoo, GMail, Grooveshark,...). I'm quite a beginner in using Ubuntu and I want to just stick to the official repository (at least now, at the beginning) and not install 3rd party apps
[18:52] <ThothCastel> WeThePeople: how can I do that?
[18:52] <WeThePeople> thothcastel, something may be conflicting
[18:52] <LuizAngioletti> carlisle_: I *think* I found it...
[18:53] <ardchoille> iceroot: I'm guessing 12.10 brings a lot of new features to the table
[18:53] <bekks> ardchoille: Which ones? :)
[18:53] <ThothCastel> WeThePeople: ok...  i thought it was included on the script to remove any other package
[18:53] <ardchoille> webapps, to name one
[18:53] <LuizAngioletti> carlisle_: /usr/share/X11/xkb/symbols | Although I don't have the X system installed, there seems to be a x11 folder...
[18:53] <iceroot> ardchoille: i will update my secondary latopt to 12.10 but stick with 12.04 for the production line :)
[18:54] <WeThePeople> thothcastel, no not included in the script.. go into synaptic and remove everything that is accociated with the broadcom nic drivers
[18:54] <iceroot> ardchoille: because 12.04 is running perfect here and we all know "never touch a running system" :)
[18:54] <Toph2> wildc4rd,,, should I be installing grub on my sdc1?   That is  the SSD where my os is on
[18:54] <ardchoille> iceroot: :)
[18:54] <wilee-nilee> Toph2, Most likely yes.
[18:54] <anflogger> islandmonkey: they do not like Lubuntu partitions without touching the Windows XP operating system, and I have both Operating Systems
[18:55] <wilee-nilee> Toph2, Sorry NO sdc
[18:55] <wilee-nilee> Toph2, NO partition number
[18:55] <carlisle_> LuizAngioletti: you can check what package provides that with 'dpkg -S /usr/share/X11/xkb/symbols'
[18:55] <ThothCastel> WeThePeople: ok, I am installing synaptic... thank yu
[18:55] <LuizAngioletti> very helpful, thx.
[18:55] <Toph2> wildc4rd,,, ok,, so just sdc
[18:55] <carlisle_> np :)
[18:56] <islandmonkey> anflogger: Perhaps you should set up a dedicated partition for Lubuntu before the install using gparted livecd
[18:56] <LuizAngioletti> carlisle_: it's xkb-data
[18:56] <anflogger> how do I install Lubuntu with Windows XP? anyone can give me instructions on this problem I have?
[18:56] <LuizAngioletti> carlisle_: running an strace
[18:57] <bekks> !dualboot | anflogger
[18:57] <anflogger> mmmmmm ok islandmonkey
[18:57] <rvgate> My laptop has 2 videocards.. Intel and Nvidia (optimus technology), how do i know wich one its using for my desktop ?
[18:57] <anflogger> thanks for your help
[18:58] <ThothCastel> WeThePeople:  sorry, I got an error while installing synaptic...   ' ---       the input file is either wrong or not supported by b43-fwcutter
[18:58] <islandmonkey> rvgate: Always will be NVIDIA, since Optimus is not on Linux
[18:58] <bekks> ThothCastel: Please provide the complete output in a pastebin.
[18:58] <islandmonkey> anflogger: No problem
[18:58] <bekks> !pastebinit | ThothCastel
[18:58] <WeThePeople> thothcastel, type sudo apt-get remove --purge b43-fwcutter
[18:59] <LuizAngioletti> carlisle_: could strace break the argument command?
[18:59] <cylarcy>  /msg NickServ identify lemesos83
[18:59] <cylarcy>  /msg NickServ identify lemesos83
[18:59] <carlisle_> LuizAngioletti: it shouldn't, try quoting the command after 'strace'
[18:59] <bekks> cylarcy: Use another PW immediately.
[18:59] <bekks> cylarcy: And DONT tell it to us.
[18:59] <bazhang> cylarcy, time to change pass
[18:59] <WeThePeople> cylarcy, do that in freenode server
[18:59] <carlisle_> lol!
[18:59] <LuizAngioletti> carlisle_: It seems to work just fine, when simply 'loadkeys us' or 'loadkeys br', but when I put strace in front of it, it kinda breaks with infinite output.
[18:59] <bazhang> he's gone
[19:00] <WeThePeople> lol
[19:00] <islandmonkey> *facepalms*
[19:00] <LuizAngioletti> carlisle_: and with the quotes it doesnt work.
[19:00] <gaetano> anyone knows why i put a cd with images into the tray and the images are all separated...
[19:00] <carlisle_> LuizAngioletti: :(
[19:01] <carlisle_> LuizAngioletti: play around with it!
[19:01] <LuizAngioletti> carlisle_: how do I report a bug (if it is one)? Without the graphical interface?
[19:01] <bekks> gaetano: Because you put them on the cd like that.
[19:01] <carlisle_> LuizAngioletti: i am not sure about that, sorry :(
[19:01] <islandmonkey> !bug | LuizAngioletti
[19:01] <wilee-nilee> gaetano, That might need a more detailed description
[19:02] <wilee-nilee> images alone have multiple meanings here
[19:02] <holmquistc> Hey guys!  I'm a noob considering getting into Ubuntu.  I was hoping I could get your guy's feedback on some stuff?
[19:02] <LuizAngioletti> islandmonkey: thx. =)
[19:03] <wilee-nilee> holmquistc, This is support, you might try #ubuntu-offtopic
[19:03] <holmquistc> Oh ok
[19:03] <holmquistc> My mistake.  Ok I'll go check that out
[19:03] <holmquistc> thanks
[19:04] <iceroot> holmquistc: this channel is fine if you have questions for your installation
[19:04] <iceroot> hipzen: feel free to place your support questions here
[19:04] <Hishamoto_Masuki> Um, how do I make Notes stop popping up every time I log in to Xubuntu?
[19:04] <iceroot> hipzen: sorry wrong nick
[19:05] <gaetano_> why my 3d drivers are not working!!?!?!
[19:05] <Hishamoto_Masuki> Help?
[19:05] <papachan> when i restart ubuntu ask me to mount tmp folder?
[19:05] <LuizAngioletti> carlisle_: doesn't work =/ Thank you for your help, though.
[19:05] <papachan> but there is a tmp folder
[19:05] <wilee-nilee> !details > gaetano_
[19:05] <papachan> dont know why
[19:05] <Hishamoto_Masuki> Um, how do I make Notes stop popping up every time I log in to Xubuntu?
[19:05] <carlisle_> LuizAngioletti: no problem, sorry i couldn't be of more help :(
[19:06] <carlisle_> LuizAngioletti: if you figure it out come back here and tell me :)
[19:06] <lumia610> ciao
[19:06] <lumia610> !list
[19:06] <Jacruth> Ey guys, I can't hear any sound from my ubuntu.
[19:06] <Jacruth> how to diagnose it
[19:06] <wilee-nilee> Hishamoto_Masuki, The channel is busy, if someone knows the answer they will probably respond, there is also #xubuntu
[19:07] <atrepp> hi, i just updated ubuntu to the latest version and i can not start asterisk correctly it says  http://pastebin.com/XsCwbjmK
[19:08] <karlpinc> Where can I go to browse ubuntu packages?
[19:08] <Aleksander> Hello :) Is there an option to prevent ubuntu desktop installer from installing GRUB?
[19:08] <seednode> Not that I'm aware of, but I believe you can switch over to syslinux after install.
[19:08] <islandmonkey> karlpinc: Ubuntu Software Centre
[19:09] <yeats> Aleksander: no - but you should have that option in the alternate installer
[19:09] <yeats> !alternate | Aleksander
[19:09] <carlisle_> yeats: alternate installer has been discontinued with 12.10
[19:09] <bekks> karlpinc: packages.ubuntu.com
[19:09] <wilee-nilee> Aleksander, You can install grub to the install partition rather then the mbr.
[19:09] <yeats> oops
[19:09] <Eagleman> join #openvpn
[19:09] <wilee-nilee> than*
[19:09] <yeats> carlisle_: that's unfortunate - there are times when that *is* the solution :-/
[19:09] <carlisle_> you /should/ be able to deselect grub with the net installer
[19:09] <Aleksander> thank you - and is there an option to automagically scan other partition for systems?
[19:10] <carlisle_> Aleksander: update-grub usually picks up on them
[19:10] <Aleksander> last time I installed ubuntu it didn't recognize my Arch, and grub2 is so much more painful than 1
[19:10] <seednode> I just use syslinux; it's really intuitive to edit.
[19:10] <carlisle_> Aleksander: if you wanna try the installer in a vm see if you can deselect grub at the end
[19:10] <rvgate> islandmonkey, how can i tell its using the nvidia card though?
[19:10] <wilee-nilee> Aleksander, Arch neds to be mounted when you have been installed to be seen by the os-prober
[19:10] <wilee-nilee> needs*
[19:10] <karlpinc> bekks: Thanks.  That's what I'm looking for.
[19:10] <Eagleman> Where do i find the default init script delivered with openvpn?
[19:10] <Aleksander> thank you, well, I'll try :)
[19:11] <islandmonkey> rvgate: Because it always will be
[19:11] <rvgate> islandmonkey, well.. you say that... but how can i tell...
[19:11] <dfsds> Hello, is there a developer who would listen to me? I have some constructice idea how to make the system better.
[19:11] <wilee-nilee> Aleksander, Fedora 17 has the same issues with needing a mount to be seen.
[19:11] <layke_> Not sure what would be the correct channel, but I have a bash script that I run on new servers to install some of the packages that I need. Here the relevant extract... http://pastie.org/5085519  For some reason, even though I run that, the new settings for memcached don't get applied. I always have to SSH in and run the service memcached restart command again
[19:11] <llutz> Eagleman: /etc/init.d/openvpn
[19:12] <rvgate> islandmonkey, what i mean is.. how can i confirm it myself
[19:12] <layke_> It's as though, it restarts before the contents of /etc/memcached.conf have been replaced..
[19:12] <ThothCastel> WeThePeople: I got the following error when executing the last command of your script
[19:13] <balachmar> Hi, I have just upgraded Ubuntu and therefore Eclipse to 3.8, however, it seems that a plugin is not compatible. And Eclipse does not start. How can I disable the plugin without starting eclipse?
[19:13] <ThothCastel> http://pastebin.com/AqHKFr6s
[19:13] <layke_> The same happens for all my other services as well where I change the configs.. It's not just limited to memcached.
[19:13] <gaetano_> wilee-nilee: i ve downoladed teaks in order to have 3d effects on my desktop but they dont work...and i cant even open blender
[19:13] <budtaz> hi guys  i have problems with youtube video and it  not show it all white screen  ....
[19:13] <budtaz> anyone can help ??
[19:13] <islandmonkey> rvgate: Well you can guarantee it's the NVIDIA because as I said, there is no Optimus for Linux.
[19:14] <ElixirVitae> Hi~
[19:14] <ElixirVitae> I sometimes find myself with a broken/unresponsive compiz, or without tray and launcher. It turns back to normal sometimes if I ctrl+alt+F2 then alt+F7, but this is not the case for most of the time. What command can I run in tty to refresh compiz?
[19:14] <LuizAngioletti> carlisle_: judging by the look of the output, I'd say it is a bug. =/
[19:15] <islandmonkey> rvgate: It will use the NVIDIA because it's the primary card
[19:15] <ThothCastel> WeThePeople: just rebooted, not working  :)
[19:15] <rvgate> islandmonkey, then what is this bumblebee then... it seems to support optimus... i've had it all configured with 12.04, running on intell without consuming power from the nvidia card.. and then using optirun when i needed the nvidia card
[19:15] <carlisle_> layke_: you start/stop services with the /etc/init.d script, unless i am way behind and upstart has changed that
[19:16] <islandmonkey> rvgate: Well you could of told me at the start you were using bumblebee :)
[19:16] <LuizAngioletti> carlisle_: aparently the first bug I ever found worth listing. =P
[19:16] <budtaz> anyone can help me ?     i have problems with youtube and it show white screen
[19:16] <islandmonkey> rvgate: Erm, well, I don't really know then
[19:16] <rvgate> islandmonkey, thats my point.. its not.. but i cant confirm it.. thats why i need to know what card its currently using
[19:16] <gaetano_> help!!! i downloaded 3d tweaks to get 3d effect on my desktop but they dont work! and i cant even open blender! anyone knows something abot that??
[19:16] <islandmonkey> !patience | budtaz
[19:16] <WeThePeople> thothcastel, did you start with a clean slate first for your broadcom, did you get synaptic package manager installed?
[19:16] <budtaz> sorry
[19:17] <carlisle_> LuizAngioletti: awesome!
[19:17] <carlisle_> (in a not awesome way)
[19:17] <LuizAngioletti> carlisle_: =P
[19:17] <ThothCastel> WeThePeople: yes, I made sure that the b43-fwcutter was uninstalled and so was the firmware for the card
[19:17] <LuizAngioletti> !bug
[19:17] <zetheroo> I am confused as to whether or not Unity is still Gnome or still uses Gnome ... ?
[19:17] <ThothCastel> would you like to connect to my computer using teamviewer?
[19:17] <zetheroo> and then what is lightdm?
[19:17] <islandmonkey> rvgate: Is there a way for bumblebee to tell you?
[19:17] <layke_> carlisle_, I don't really know.. But if I log in and type /etc/init.d/memcached status or service memcached status, I get the same response.
[19:18] <ThothCastel> wethepeople: I mean, could you?
[19:18] <islandmonkey> *is losing ideas*
[19:18] <layke_> carlisle_, I assumed that I could use as /etc/init.d/ via service?
[19:18] <carlisle_> i think you're supposed to use the init script
[19:19] <layke_> Okay. Not that I don't trust you ;) But can anyone else confirm as well?
[19:19] <layke_> I'll try with /etc/init.d/ now anyway carlisle_
[19:19] <carlisle_> i'm not sure if 'service' commands like how rhel have been implemented in it but the init script is a safe bet
[19:19] <layke_> The funny thing is though, is that the service command does work.
[19:19] <carlisle_> blah that was confusing, i'm not sure if the 'service' commands like how rhel uses have been implemented
[19:20] <llutz> carlisle_: "service" just runs init-scripts
[19:20] <carlisle_> i'm a little behind on the newer ubuntu stuff, i'm mostly using debian
[19:20] <WeThePeople> thothcastel, the firmware stays on the nic > network interface card, thats why its called 'firm' ware unlike software, fwcutter extracts the firmware from the eprom on the nic to be installed on your system
[19:20] <rvgate> islandmonkey, well.. optirun doesnt work anymore... telling me it cant find the secondary gpu
[19:20] <carlisle_> llutz: ah
[19:20] <genii-around> layke_: http://packages.ubuntu.com/precise/amd64/memcached/filelist indicates no /etc/init  entry, only /etc/init.d which means it still hasn't been converted to upstart yet ( at least not in Precise )
[19:20] <islandmonkey> rvgate: Hmm, well, I don't know. Sorry
[19:21] <WeThePeople> ok, have you 'installed' anything else that you can remember besides fwcutter
[19:22] <LuizAngioletti> hello?
[19:22] <WeThePeople> thothcastel, broadcom can be a pain in the @ss sometimes
[19:22] <bulletrulz> bullet_ U ARE NOT ME!
[19:23] <papachan> how i can try python3 on ubuntu 12.10 ?
[19:23] <guntbert> dfsds: you will find no developers here - please join me in #ubuntu-discuss to see how we can help
[19:23] <WeThePeople> thothcastel, idk what the error is..
[19:24] <wilee-nilee> bulletrulz, Hehe a bit sensitive are we. ;)
[19:25] <islandmonkey> ^lol
[19:25] <ThothCastel> WeThePeople: thanks a lot mate,
[19:25] <ThothCastel>  WeThePeople : big pain in the @SS!!!!
[19:25] <Lunar_Lamp> There is no unity 2D in 12.10, but the effects in unity are lagging severely for me, so how can I get an equivalent, or turn off the effects? (my graphics card does not have a working devent driver)
[19:25] <islandmonkey> ThothCastel: Oi, cut it. Not everyone in here is a know-it-all
[19:25] <ThothCastel> we I am doing everything again.... removing packaged    firmware and b43fwcutter
[19:26] <WeThePeople> thothcastel, the firmware cannot be removed
[19:26] <IdleOne> typing the word @SS doesn't make it any cleaner. Please refrain from using it.
[19:26] <ThothCastel> do you have any handy software for remote support like teamviewer, vnc...  similar?
[19:26] <Cbuck> Hey can somebody help me with some windows xp stuff?
[19:26] <IdleOne> Cbuck: ##windows can
[19:26] <Cbuck> im having problems connection to the internet buy linux works...
[19:26] <wilee-nilee> Cbuck, Is it ubuntu related?
[19:26] <Cbuck> but*
[19:26] <Cbuck> yes it is
[19:26] <WeThePeople> cbuck, see ##windows
[19:26] <Eagleman> Where do i find the default init script delivered with openvpn? not the script in /etc/init.d/ ?
[19:26] <Cbuck> because ubuntu works
[19:27] <Cbuck> ##windows
[19:27] <wilee-nilee> Cbuck, That is not relevant
[19:27] <WeThePeople> cbuck, whats the issue
[19:27] <IdleOne> Cbuck: We help with ubuntu issues, windows issues in ##windows
[19:27] <llutz> Eagleman: that IS the init-script. dpkg -L openvpn   for a full list of files coming with it
[19:28] <WeThePeople> thothcastel, fyi use modprobe, google it
[19:28] <ThothCastel> WeThePeople: -  do you have any handy software for remote support like teamviewer, vnc... similar?
[19:28] <WeThePeople> no
[19:28] <ThothCastel> ok
[19:28] <WeThePeople> i tried
[19:28] <PyGuy> Hey guys, I installed nvidia-current and now my resolution is locked very low
[19:28] <w3p5t3r> Hi guys
[19:28] <WeThePeople> thothcastel, the script got my broadcom workin
[19:28] <LuizAngioletti> If I wanted to download a specific package for a different version of Ubuntu from that I'm using, how would I proceed?
[19:29] <IdleOne> LuizAngioletti: packages.ubuntu.com
[19:29] <LuizAngioletti> IdleOne: thank you.
[19:29] <PyGuy> It only goes up to like 1024x768
[19:29] <IdleOne> welcome
[19:29] <budtaz> hi anyone know how to fix with youtube?
[19:30] <WeThePeople> budtaz, whats the issue
[19:30] <WeThePeople> budtaz, what browser
[19:30] <budtaz> its white screen
[19:30] <L3top> PyGuy: what version of ubuntu, and what is the output of lspci -nn | grep VGA
[19:30] <budtaz> im new this
[19:30] <WeThePeople> budtaz, where the video plays
[19:30] <Vustom> Could someone help me out? I have a 50mb partition on /dev/sda1 and Ubuntu is on /dev/sda2, how can I put a bootloader onto /dev/sda1 in ext3 and make it instantly boot into /dev/sda2?
[19:31] <PyGuy> ubuntu 12.10 and  01:00.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: NVIDIA Corporation GF114 [GeForce GTX 560] [10de:1201] (rev a1)
[19:31] <budtaz> in www.youtube.com and i try to click to video and it show white it said plug in
[19:31] <bamboz> !list
[19:31] <WeThePeople> budtaz, do you know how to get to the software center
[19:31] <budtaz> no? please help me... thanks
[19:32] <WeThePeople> budtaz, what version of ubuntu are you using
[19:32] <Vustom> Will sudo grub-install /dev/sda1 work, or?
[19:32] <gaetano_> why my 3d drivers dont work on ubuntu studio!?!?! anyone knows something about that?
[19:32] <budtaz> how i can find version ?
[19:32] <L3top> PyGuy: xrandr -q | wc -l         and lspci -nnk | grep VGA -A3 | grep -i kernel
[19:32] <WeThePeople> go to terminal and type lsb_release -a
[19:33] <L3top> PyGuy: the first will return a number
[19:33] <xop> Anyone familiar with remastersys?
[19:33] <budtaz> Ubuntu
[19:33] <test3> budtaz: Wich Version?
[19:34] <bamboz> !list
[19:34] <budtaz> let  me check version
[19:34] <gordonjcp> bamboz: stop that
[19:34] <PyGuy> L3top: it said failed to get size of gamma for output default
[19:34] <w3p5t3r> Do i really need gnome-user-guide 3.4.1-1 on xubuntu if i run xfce 4.8? i want to kill 25MB...
[19:34] <bamboz> !list
[19:34] <gordonjcp> bamboz: does that mean something different in Italian?
[19:34] <alien2050> how to uncompress xz files ? tar?
[19:34] <s4lt> !list
[19:34] <s4lt> !list
[19:35] <gordonjcp> alien2050: with xz
[19:35] <bekks> alien2050: Using xz
[19:35] <budtaz> ubuntu 12.04 lts
[19:35] <efes> Hello :) THere's something bad with my KDE. Trash seem to be empty, but when I try delete somethning "Full trashbin" message appears. Any hints ?
[19:35] <alien2050> thx
[19:35] <test3> budtaz: do you know which Graphic Card you have?
[19:35] <WeThePeople> budtaz, ok hit tab button and type software center
[19:36] <budtaz> yes  geforece fx 5200 agp see 3dnow!
[19:36] <Mr__> anyone get their proprietary video drivers working with the new release?
[19:36] <PyGuy> Mr__ not me, sadly. That's what I'm getting help with
[19:37] <budtaz> already appear software center
[19:37] <OY1R> q: can the latest ubuntu version run gnome 3 ?
[19:37] <s4lt> !list
[19:37] <s4lt> !list
[19:37] <s4lt> !uptime
[19:37] <Shadow`> Windows7 Uptime: 1day 22hrs 31mins 59secs Best: 1wk 4days 20hrs 53mins 30secs
[19:37] <FloodBot1> s4lt: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:37] <L3top> PyGuy: I didn't get the output of the second one
[19:37] <Mr__> PyGuy, me too man ,, nothing show up in the software sources "additional drivers" section
[19:37] <L3top> s4lt: stop that
[19:37] <Mr__> and i have a 2 gig ati pcie card
[19:37] <yeats> OY1R: yes - unity is built on gnome3
[19:37] <IdleOne> s4lt: Please stop
[19:37] <Mr__> if thats not recognized then thats ridiculous
[19:37] <WeThePeople> budtaz, ok go into software center and type as shown>>> ubuntu-restricted-extras
[19:37] <budtaz> next what ??
[19:37] <budtaz> ok
[19:38] <OY1R> yeats, so NO traces of unity what so ever ?
[19:38] <WeThePeople> budtaz, click install
[19:38] <PyGuy> L3top: I get an error on the first one saying Failed to get size of gamma for output default
[19:38] <budtaz> hold
[19:38] <yeats> OY1R: I don't understand
[19:38] <L3top> Mr__: can I see the output of lspci -nn | grep VGA
[19:38] <gordonjcp> s4lt: if you're going to cyber with ubottu do it in pm
[19:38] <Vustom> Can someone take a look at http://tekguru.wordpress.com/2007/09/04/howto-moving-boot-to-its-own-partition/ and at #6 it says to add /dev/hdaX /boot ext3 ro 0 0 to /etc/fstab, just wondering do I put the line under the text that's already there or overwrite all of it?
[19:38] <L3top> yes PyGuy I got that... what is the output of the second
[19:38] <budtaz> i did copy and paste with ubuntu-restricted-extras
[19:38] <yeats> !nounity | OY1R
[19:38] <budtaz> it now show?
[19:38] <PyGuy> Mr__ not me, sadly. That's what I'm getting help with
[19:39] <WeThePeople> budtaz, ok, install that
[19:39] <PyGuy> Kernel modules: nvidia_current, nouveau, nvidiafb
[19:39] <WeThePeople> budtaz, do you see a install button>
[19:39] <WeThePeople> ?
[19:39] <budtaz> yes
[19:39] <WeThePeople> install
[19:39] <IdleOne> !uptime
[19:39] <OY1R> ok, now can i upgrade from ubuntu 9.04 to current version ?
[19:39] <IdleOne> thank you Shadow` :)
[19:39] <awaad> How can I install pymedia (python module) on Ubuntu 12.04 ?
[19:39] <dragonfly> Hey guys, I've got a Toshiba L850 with ATI readon graphics card. It looks like the ATI drivers are not working properly. The screen flicker and it randomly shows lines and weird shapes.
[19:39] <L3top> PyGuy: sudo mv /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/old.xorg.conf  then log out and back in
[19:39] <dragonfly> any fix for that ?
[19:40] <yeats> OY1R: you'd probably do better to reinstall
[19:40] <Mr__> L3top, 05:00.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI RV730 PRO [Radeon HD 4650] [1002:9498]
[19:40] <OY1R> yeats, ok thanks, i'll do that.
[19:40] <Vustom> I'm invisible. :(
[19:40] <w3p5t3r> Do i really need gnome-user-guide 3.4.1-1 on xubuntu if i run xfce 4.8? i want to kill 25MB...
[19:40] <L3top> Mr__: quantal uses a newer version of the proprietary driver and support has been dropped for your card. All HD 2xxx - 4xxx series.
[19:41] <hyfrLYFE> :D
[19:41] <dragonfly> L3top: What about 5xxx series ?
[19:41] <Mr__> L3top, thats ridiculous,,, are we supporting nothing after 2 years now?
[19:41] <L3top> they are good still dragonfly
[19:41] <hyfrLYFE> Vustom: :D
[19:41] <L3top> talk to AMD Mr__
[19:41] <L3top> its a horrorshow
[19:41] <hyfrLYFE> Mr__: blame AMD not Canonical
[19:41] <dragonfly> L3top: Looks like mine is no longer supported.
[19:41] <yeats> Vustom: don't overwrite it - add to it (and best make a backup first)
[19:41] <PyGuy> L3top alright, I'm back in.  Now what's next?
[19:41] <Mr__> L3top, no only AMD's problem,,, keep "legacy" drivers available
[19:42] <Vustom> yeats: thanks :)
[19:42] <Mr__> thats a Canonical problem
[19:42] <L3top> Mr__: the radeon driver IS the legacy driver
[19:42] <test3> budtaz: did you install?
[19:42] <Mr__> they used to keep legacy drivers available
[19:42] <yeats> Vustom: busy channel today with yesterday's release - hard to read 'em all ;-)
[19:42] <L3top> Mr__: that is what you are running
[19:42] <Mr__> its a shitty legacy driver and a cheap cop out by canonical
[19:42] <budtaz> no .. i look for right word  then i can click it
[19:42] <hyfrLYFE> Mr__: no that's an AMD problem. the older legacy drivers probably don't work with newer version of Xorg anymore.
[19:42] <dragonfly> L3top: Any idea about 7600M series ? Mine is not working properly here
[19:42] <w3p5t3r> solved::: ;) Do i really need gnome-user-guide 3.4.1-1 on xubuntu if i run xfce 4.8? i want to kill 25MB...
[19:43] <WeThePeople> budtaz, once that is installed restart your browser
[19:43] <budtaz> im still on ubuntu software center and  still look for it
[19:43] <soman> Hi all. Can I use my downloaded *.deb in Ubuntu 12.04 for Kubuntu and Xubuntu/
[19:43] <test3> budatz: you look for what?
[19:43] <Mr__> hyfrLYFE, bull, i have a debian machine with the lastest kernel and the driver works just fine
[19:43] <L3top> Mr__: in order to support the newest chipsets, canonical has to have the latest fglrx driver, it is an AMD problem that they drop support like m&ms
[19:43] <wilee-nilee> Mr__, You really are not informed in so many ways. ;)
[19:43] <IdleOne> soman: yes
[19:43] <Mr__> wilee-nilee, oh please enlighten me then
[19:43] <hyfrLYFE> Mr__: that in itself sounds like bull.
[19:43] <soman> IdleOne: thanks
[19:43] <L3top> Mr__: you might check apt-cache policy fglrx and see if there is an older version you can specify
[19:44] <budtaz> what title and i can put into search  and will show ?
[19:44] <Mr__>   Installed: (none)
[19:44] <Mr__>   Candidate: 2:9.000-0ubuntu3
[19:44] <test3> budtaz: ubuntu-restricted
[19:44] <test3> budatz: and it will show up ;)
[19:45] <budtaz> found there have two diffrent
[19:45] <budtaz>  which one correct one
[19:45] <ThothCastel> WeThePeople: mate, I used  the following and then the wireless option was available on the dropdown, however it  was faded out and it said (missing firmware)     :S
[19:45] <manners13> hey guys
[19:45] <Vustom> In section #9 of this tutorial; http://tekguru.wordpress.com/2007/09/04/howto-moving-boot-to-its-own-partition/ it says to edit the info in /boot/grub/menu.lst but the file doesn't exist so there's nothing to edit. Has the location or something changed in 12.10?
[19:45] <test3> budatz: take the one with flash
[19:45] <Mr__> wilee-nilee, still waiting for you to grace me with your all knowing knowledge
[19:46] <WeThePeople> thothcastel, install last script
[19:46] <manners13> iv just updated to 12.04 and when logging into terminal it informs me that 12.10 is available
[19:46] <IdleOne> !grub | Vustom
[19:46] <wilee-nilee> Vustom, menu.list is grub legacy 12.10 is grub2.
[19:46] <nkls> how to create linuxmint 13 kde on usb?
[19:46] <L3top> Mr__: stop being adversarial. I am trying to help you. Keep looking down the list at versions.
[19:46] <yeats> Vustom: yeah - that's for legacy GRUB - that's a really old tutorial
[19:46] <manners13> i try doing do-release-upgrade but i get no new release found
[19:46] <L3top> PyGuy: run xrandr -q again
[19:46] <hyfrLYFE> Mr__: you mentioned a box running debian, is this the same box where you're having issues with now on ubuntu?
[19:46] <yeats> manners13: from 12.04?
[19:46] <Vustom> yeats: so, would i just skip that part and move on to the next part or?
[19:46] <manners13> yup
[19:46] <WeThePeople> budtaz, ubuntu-restricted-extras
[19:47] <budtaz> thank you
[19:47] <wilee-nilee> Vustom,Why would you need a grub partition?
[19:47] <DJones> Vustom: Thats aimed at a very old version of Ubuntu & Grub, if you're using an Ubuntu version thats less than 2 years old, you need to see the link that ubottu gave you
[19:47] <Mr__> hyfrLYFE, no different machine, same graphics card though,,, i will have to double check the kernel version to make sure i'm right,,, think they are the same though
[19:47] <test3> budatz: after you have installed it, restart your browser
[19:47] <budtaz> now it on way install
[19:47] <PyGuy> L3top yeah the resolutions are still the same
[19:47] <Girl-Buntu> islandmonkey, i triaged to a solution -> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-drivers-common/+bug/1053749
[19:47] <ThothCastel> WeThePeople: I got the same error as before when insstalling the last script...
[19:47] <Vustom> DJones: i'll look for it, i must've missed it
[19:47] <DJones> !grub > Vustom
[19:47] <arekgg2> witam czy to jest kanal o ubuntu linux moze ktos po Polsku ?
[19:48] <Mr__> L3top, adversarial came from wilee-nilee  not me , and there is only one driver listed
[19:48] <hyfrLYFE> Mr__: kernel version doesn't matter as much, it's Xorg differences that causes issues of discrepencies
[19:48] <WeThePeople> budtaz, when its done restart browser
[19:48] <wilee-nilee> arekgg2, English?
[19:48] <yeats> manners13: try 'sudo do-release-upgrade -d'
[19:48] <yeats> manners13: sorry scratch that
[19:48] <arekgg2> no
[19:48] <budtaz> thank you i will do that..
[19:48] <yeats> manners13: are you using graphical ubuntu or server?
[19:48] <manners13> server so term only
[19:49] <saurabh_> Hi, I have recently installed ubuntu 12.10 64-bit on my dell studio 1555. How can I install ati drivers?
[19:49] <Mr__> saurabh_, your probably screwed like the rest of us
[19:49] <dragonfly> saurabh: Yes you can
[19:49] <wilee-nilee> !ubuntu-pl
[19:49] <manners13> and im currently loggied in as root
[19:49] <saurabh_> The ati drivers are not coming in proprietary drivers in software sources
[19:50] <L3top> Mr__: then that is that... again... the latest release is not going to sacrifice newer hardware for older hardware.  It is ridiculous that they dropped support. I hang out in a dev channel for them, and they are working on a new driver which supports both. You will be stuck on radeon until then, or move back to 1204.
[19:50] <Mr__> saurabh_, its probably isn't supported anymore,,, same situation as me
[19:50] <WeThePeople> thothcastel, >>> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1708865
[19:50] <yeats> manners13: try editing /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades and see if you can change it to Prompt=normal
[19:50] <Mr__> L3top, leave it up to developers to think everyone has a new machine with new hardware
[19:50] <yeats> then try again
[19:50] <L3top> saurabh_: lspci -nn | grep VGA
[19:50] <wilee-nilee> arekgg2, #ubuntu-pl
[19:50] <WeThePeople> budtaz, let me know if it works
[19:51] <L3top> I couldn't agree more with your frustration Mr__.
[19:51] <saurabh_> Mr__: I was running 12.04 before and it was running fine, I tried to upgrade it to 12.10 through internet and it just messed up my laptop. It only showed the desktop, no unity and no top bar
[19:51] <yeats> Mr__: I've had the same situation with my wife's laptop - we opted for xubuntu and she's happy fwiw
[19:51] <Mr__> saurabh_, i would go to the terminal and or recovery mode and run   sudo apt-get update      then sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[19:52] <saurabh_> Now, I have formatted my drive and installed ubuntu 12.10 from scratch, now I can't install ati drivers and my laptop is heating up like its on fire :(
[19:52] <manners13> ok thats sorted it thx
[19:52] <L3top> yeats: it is the version available that is the problem... *buntu is *buntu.
[19:52] <saurabh_> Mr__: I have already all of the updates
[19:52] <L3top> saurabh_: lspci -nn | grep VGA
[19:52] <saurabh_> ok L3top, let my try
[19:52] <crizis> saurabh_, installing ati drivers how?
[19:52] <yeats> L3top: ah - gotcha - different problem than mine ;-)
[19:53] <navaismo> fuckyou all lamer linux users ubuntu sucks!!!!
[19:53] <saurabh_> crizis, thats what I trying to figure out
[19:53] <crizis> saurabh_, if you install from 'additional drivers', make sure NOT to select 'post-release' driver, as it has never worked in any earlier release ...
[19:53] <budtaz> still install run
[19:53] <saurabh_> crizis, but there are no drivers coming in ubuntu 12.10 in addtional drivers window
[19:53] <budtaz> give it time
[19:54] <saurabh_> L3top: "01:00.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI RV710 [Mobility Radeon HD 4500/5100 Series] [1002:9553]"
[19:54] <crizis> saurabh_,  right, if it's older ATI card then you're probably out of luck as ati has afaik dropped support even for 4xxx radeons already
[19:54] <WeThePeople> budtaz, their is more we can do if that doesnt work
[19:54]  * genii-around sips
[19:54] <L3top> same deal saurabh_. ATI dropped support for your chipset.
[19:54] <aristidesfl> hi
[19:54] <budtaz> ok
[19:54] <saurabh_> L3top: ok, is there any alternative?
[19:55] <budtaz> its still run in half install and nothing change in  half way
[19:55] <aristidesfl> I'm trying to follow this guide on how to configure iptables on startup
[19:55] <L3top> You guys may have luck grabbing the older driver direct from AMD. Might leave a comment while you are there :)
[19:55] <aristidesfl> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo
[19:55] <PyGuy> So L3top, I'm still getting the same resolutions from the command you told me to enter :s
[19:55] <saurabh_> L3top, but I think the older driver is not compatible with xorg 1.13
[19:55] <Mr_-> yeats, that doesn't matter, whether you use xubuntu or ubuntu or lubuntu the proprietary graphics driver won't work with the new version
[19:56] <saurabh_> and the linux kernel itself
[19:56] <brightboy> Hey so, I updated to 12.10, then reinstalled AMD drivers, now my window manager is broken
[19:56] <Mr_-> brightboy, welcome to the club
[19:56] <L3top> PyGuy: I asked you to give me a line count, you said it errored out.
[19:56] <bekks> brightboy: How did you install them?
[19:56] <wilee-nilee> saurabh_, I would run precise it will be LTS for 4.5 years longer then 12.10 will have support.
[19:56] <L3top> saurabh_: I think you are correct.
[19:56] <budtaz> seem not work
[19:56] <budtaz>  so other way  to install??
[19:56] <wilee-nilee> not then but in relation to.
[19:57] <brightboy> well i had purged them before the 12.10 update, because the last 12.04 kernel, then i got the .run file from AMD and ran it
[19:57] <aristidesfl> I'm trying to follow this guide on how to configure iptables on startup https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo . In the example it says I should have the interface I'm using for the network on /etc/network/interfaces but I don't have any eth0, only lo http://hastebin.com/lofosifoga. Qhat can I do?
[19:57] <aristidesfl> I'm trying to follow this guide on how to configure iptables on startup https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo . In the example it says I should have the interface I'm using for the network on /etc/network/interfaces but I don't have any eth0, only lo http://hastebin.com/lofosifoga. What can I do?
[19:57] <crizis> saurabh_, http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Quantal_Installation_Guide perhaps this helps?
[19:57] <brightboy> rebooted, and now no menu bars etc
[19:57] <PyGuy> A line count?
[19:57] <bekks> brightboy: Thats a safe way to break a system :)
[19:57] <w3p5t3r> Hi, is there a MacBookPro Laptop Keymap for Xubuntu, i want to use the cmd-Button, like Mac...or i must config self?
[19:57] <bekks> brightboy: Why didnt you use the driver from the repos?
[19:57] <Mr_-> wilee-nilee, you are sooo uninformed
[19:57] <brightboy> there were none shown for me
[19:57] <saurabh_> wilee-nilee: Your idea is good, but I like having the latest software on my  laptop, and I don't want to install too much PPAs for it
[19:57] <bazhang> Mr_-, thats enough
[19:57] <brightboy> amd driver 12.6
[19:57] <SolarisBoy> aristidesfl: its possible those interfaces are managed by network manager and just the loop back is brought up by interfaces file
[19:58] <SolarisBoy> aristidesfl: have you tried ufw?
[19:58] <Mr_-> bazhang, and you are?
[19:58] <wilee-nilee> Mr_-, He not as much as you lol.
[19:58] <aristidesfl> SolarisBoy what is that?
[19:58] <wilee-nilee> hehe
[19:58] <matthewh3> help I just tried to install a dns cache following these two guides - http://www.debianadmin.com/local-dns-cache-for-faster-browsing-on-ubuntu-system.html - http://askubuntu.com/questions/22750/best-way-to-set-up-dns-caching - and now I can only browse the net on Tor????
[19:58] <SolarisBoy> aristidesfl: its a frontend to configuring iptables
[19:58] <bazhang> Mr_-, enough with the attacks and editorializing
[19:58] <L3top> brightboy: thats likely because your chipset was dropped. lspci -nn | grep VGA will likely reveal it is an hd 2xxx - 4xxx
[19:58] <saurabh_> crizis, will this beta driver work with my chipset?
[19:58] <SolarisBoy> aristidesfl: in such you could type 'sudo ufw enable' and it will be enabled for startup
[19:58] <ElixirVitae> Metacity is for ubuntu 2D, no?
[19:58] <skpl^> how can i upgrade from 12.04 to 12.10?
[19:58] <SolarisBoy> aristidesfl: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UFW
[19:59] <rvgate> im trying out 12.10, i created a webapp for gmail... but nothing is showing up.. nothing appeared at my launcher
[19:59] <MonkeyDust> !upgrade | skpl^
[19:59] <crizis> saurabh_, no idea, try and see :P
[19:59] <brightboy> haha so the same problem i had with Windows 8, I have in 12.10, which is being claimed to not have its problems
[19:59] <islandmonkey> skpl^: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2012/10/how-to-upgrade-ubuntu-12-04-to-ubuntu-12-10
[19:59] <PyGuy> L3top this is what comes out when I type the xrandr thing in the terminal: xrandr: Failed to get size of gamma for output default
[19:59] <PyGuy> Screen 0: minimum 640 x 480, current 1024 x 768, maximum 1024 x 768
[19:59] <PyGuy> default connected 1024x768+0+0 0mm x 0mm
[19:59] <PyGuy>    1024x768       61.0*
[19:59] <PyGuy>    800x600        61.0
[19:59] <FloodBot1> PyGuy: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:59] <PyGuy>    640x480        60.0
[19:59] <Mr_-> bazhang, you didn't say anything to wilee-nilee, related? involved?
[19:59] <aristidesfl> SolarisBoy I already have to rules all lined up
[20:00] <brightboy> well guess i will start backing up and do a wipe on my laptop
[20:00] <L3top> brightboy: when a hw manufacturer drops support for your chipset, they drop support for your chipset. This is an AMD issue, not an OS issue.
[20:00] <aristidesfl> can ufw consume /etc/iptables.rules?
[20:00] <saurabh_> crizis: I will download and try. If I don't return back to irc, you should think my system is broken again :)
[20:00] <brightboy> well the driver is still available.
[20:00] <brightboy> so why dont they keep the last released in the repos
[20:00] <L3top> PyGuy: what I asked you for was xrandr -q | wc -l
[20:00] <L3top> that will spit a number
[20:00] <PyGuy> oh ok
[20:01] <D4rkH4nd> Who made the 12.10 upgrade mistake LOL
[20:01] <SolarisBoy> aristidesfl: if you want to load them up with just iptables you can try to switch to root and 'iptables-restore < /path/to/rulesfile'
[20:01] <gordonjcp> D4rkH4nd: be constructive or be quiet ;-)
[20:01] <captine> D4rkH4nd, I am in the proces... :)  almost done.. and u?
[20:01] <SolarisBoy> aristidesfl: if they are where ufw expects them to be (iptables rules) then you can type ufw enable
[20:01] <yeats> aristidesfl: ufw is a wrapper around iptables, so if you're going to use it, don't mess with iptables scripts - pick one way or the other (IMHO)
[20:01] <gordonjcp> D4rkH4nd: fwiw I've been running 12.10 for a couple of months now, and it's pretty good
[20:01] <PyGuy> L3top it says "failed to get size of gamma" and on the next line it says "5." Is that the number?
[20:02] <SolarisBoy> basically what yeats said - or like i said do one or the other  - ufw is better for those not that good with iptables.
[20:02] <D4rkH4nd> captine: ya the only issue is desktop wont work. so im gonna keep it im sure it will be fixed soon
[20:02] <brightboy> so basically i cant use 12.10?
[20:02] <L3top> yeah... thats strange. ls /etc/X11/xorg.conf   produces no result correct PyGuy
[20:02] <gordonjcp> brightboy: ?
[20:03] <saurabh_> crizis: I am also having problem with my touchpad. The click delay is very much
[20:03] <gordonjcp> brightboy: why wouldn't you ber able to use 12.10?
[20:03] <brightboy> the AMD driver breaks my window manager, and so far ive gotten that I am SOL
[20:03] <saurabh_> probably 1-2 sec
[20:03] <D4rkH4nd> brightboy: dont take my experiance im also using a laptop that is known to have low driver support.
[20:03] <gordonjcp> brightboy: have you filed a bug?
[20:03] <L3top> brightboy: ATI DROPPED support for your chipset... that is why the latest driver is not available in available driver... because it will break your desktop... what are you missing?
[20:03] <aristidesfl> SolarisBoy let's try it out
[20:04] <brightboy> L3top I used the one I downloaded from AMD
[20:04] <SolarisBoy> ok
[20:04] <L3top> yes
[20:04] <L3top> and what happened?
[20:04] <brightboy> my window manager is broken
[20:04] <L3top> It BROKE your desktop
[20:04] <brightboy> right
[20:04] <brightboy> but it works in 12.04
[20:04] <L3top> that is why it is NOT available to you BY ubuntu
[20:04] <L3top> yes
[20:04] <L3top> because it is a previous version
[20:04] <saurabh_> brightboy, which one did you use? Is your laptop dell studio 1555?
[20:04] <brightboy> ? why should OS effect whether or not my video card driver works
[20:04] <L3top> ATI DROPPED SUPPORT FOR YOUR CARD>>> NO LONGER WORKY WORKY ON NEW DRIVER
[20:04] <saurabh_> brightboy: which driver?
[20:05] <SolarisBoy> its not the os effecting it its the driver package and what one is available to the OS
[20:05] <brightboy> 12.6
[20:05] <OY1R> i'll give mint a try first.
[20:05] <brightboy> and so im back to, I cant use 12.10 on my laptop
[20:05] <aristidesfl> SolarisBoy lost access to the machine..
[20:05] <SolarisBoy> aristidesfl: fix your rules
[20:05] <aguadito> boy, unity was robbing my computer of all its power
[20:05] <aristidesfl> SolarisBoy the rules were fine
[20:05] <tom> If I do an upgrade via Upgrade Manager and I am using the 64bit 12.04 will the upgrade be to the 64bit 12.10?
[20:05] <aguadito> now xbmc runs smoothly and everything is so fast
[20:05] <aguadito> unity sucks :P
[20:05] <SolarisBoy> aristidesfl: its not hard - and youll learn some - start with fresh set of rules
[20:06] <SolarisBoy> aristidesfl: how did you lose access to the machine?
[20:06] <PyGuy> L3top: So what do I do with the output number 5
[20:06] <saurabh_> brightboy: it doesn't work with x.org 1.13 I think
[20:06] <islandmonkey> tom: Yes
[20:06] <islandmonkey> tom: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2012/10/how-to-upgrade-ubuntu-12-04-to-ubuntu-12-10
[20:06] <tom> tks
[20:06] <aristidesfl> SolarisBoy the rules were fine
[20:06] <SolarisBoy> aristidesfl: configure ufw and move the iptables rules to ufw
[20:06] <D4rkH4nd> Just wondering if anyone else has found a work around for the broken desktop after .10 upgrade?
[20:06] <brightboy> alright so ill wipe and reinstall 12.04 then
[20:06] <saurabh_> brightboy: it works in ubuntu 12.04 though, I have tried it myself
[20:06] <L3top> sorry PyGuy... can you please give output of lsmod | grep nvidia
[20:06] <XiaolinDraconis> what is the process wrestool? its using a lot of memory atm.
[20:06] <SolarisBoy> then enable ufw and you will be fine
[20:06] <saurabh_> brightboy: which laptop do you own?
[20:07] <brightboy> hp dv6 radeon 4400
[20:07] <SolarisBoy> dont try to make ufw read your already done iptables configuration or anything
[20:07] <ghabit> Hello. How to install nvidia drivers on 12.04?
[20:07] <aristidesfl> SolarisBoy how do I move iptables rules to ufw?
[20:07] <ghabit> Also how to check witch driver is running now?
[20:07] <saurabh_> ok
[20:07] <SolarisBoy> aristidesfl: read them and enable them one by one
[20:07] <aristidesfl> fuck that
[20:07] <PyGuy> L3top: It's cool :) but lsmod isn't outputting anything
[20:07]  * SolarisBoy shrugs
[20:07] <aristidesfl> you told me I just had to have them in iptables
[20:07] <L3top> !language | aristidesfl
[20:07] <SolarisBoy> then use iptables like i said aristidesfl
[20:08] <aristidesfl> and then enable ufw
[20:08] <L3top> okey doke.. that is the problem PyGuy... lets try and generate a new xorg... nividia-xconfigure ... or maybe it is nvidia-xconfig... cant remember
[20:08] <brightboy> lol @aristidesfl comes for advice, criticizes advice
[20:08] <SolarisBoy> ufw is iptables so if you want to put it like that fine
[20:08] <saurabh_> anybody installed 12.10 and pc running fine?
[20:08] <SolarisBoy> im saying that it will be easier for you aristidesfl to move the rules and type ufw enable
[20:08] <xangua> !anyone | saurabh_
[20:08] <SolarisBoy> i can't imagine you have that many rules anyway...
[20:08] <XiaolinDraconis> quantal is 12.10 right?
[20:09] <islandmonkey> saurabh_: Yep
[20:09] <bazhang> XiaolinDraconis, yep
[20:09] <ghabit> saurabh_, just installed 12.10, it's ok. Some issues with nvidia drivers installation, but in general is ok.
[20:09] <islandmonkey> XiaolinDraconis: Yep
[20:09] <XiaolinDraconis> why did ubottu just tell me a package does not exist in quantel?
[20:09] <saurabh_> ubottu: I already asked my first question
[20:09] <PyGuy> L3top: xconfig said unable to write to directory '/etc/X11' :s
[20:09] <XiaolinDraconis> *quantal
[20:09] <layke_> www.chrisacky.com/images/wtf.png Why is load 30? The system appears snappy..
[20:09] <aristidesfl> SolarisBoy [21:01:44] <SolarisBoy> aristidesfl: if they are where ufw expects them to be (iptables rules) then you can type ufw enable
[20:09] <layke_> It won't drop down from 30..
[20:10] <saurabh_> ubottu: and also got the answer that my chipset in not compatible with new ati driver
[20:10] <L3top> PyGuy: yeah... I guess it would need sudo...  sorry
[20:10] <aristidesfl> now I don't have access to the machine
[20:10] <SolarisBoy> aristidesfl: i was really simplifying this - i know where they are expected to be and i am sure you didn't create all of those file
[20:10] <SolarisBoy> aristidesfl: thats your fault
[20:10] <saurabh_> ubottu: you are stupid!!!!!!
[20:10] <bazhang> saurabh_, no need to talk to ubottu, its a bot
[20:10] <D4rkH4nd> Is there a 12.10 channel by chance ?
[20:10] <aristidesfl> SolarisBoy yeah I pressed the buttons
[20:10] <XiaolinDraconis> "<ubottu> Package wrestool does not exist in quantal"
[20:10] <bazhang> D4rkH4nd, this is it
[20:10] <test3> bazhang: ubottu is a bot...
[20:10] <SolarisBoy> no you didn't listen
[20:10] <saurabh_> bazhang: Ya, I got it
[20:10] <islandmonkey> D4rkH4nd: Yes here
[20:10] <SolarisBoy> or read
[20:10] <PyGuy> L3top: it's alright :) so it looks like a new configuration file has been written
[20:11] <aristidesfl> SolarisBoy at least I thought without any configuring ufw would not block anything
[20:11] <L3top> PyGuy: go ahead and reboot
[20:11] <SolarisBoy> ufw is iptables...
[20:11] <SolarisBoy> if you have iptables rules enabled you were told twice not to do it - not to use both
[20:11] <D4rkH4nd> Any fix for broken desktop for 12.10 yet ?
[20:11] <Vustom> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1290264/
[20:11] <Vustom> Can someone tell me what I'm doing wrong? the partition is ext3 btw
[20:11] <SolarisBoy> so now you should reboot the system is likely the easiest way to release those rules from memory and possibly do a ufw disable to fix it
[20:11] <islandmonkey> D4rkH4nd: Have you reported a bug?
[20:12] <D4rkH4nd> ya
[20:12] <aristidesfl> SolarisBoy I rebooted the system
[20:12] <XiaolinDraconis> D4rkH4nd, you should always do a clean install, upgrades dont work out so well
[20:12] <aristidesfl> that's why I lost access
[20:12] <saurabh_> are they any legacy drivers I can install for my ati graphic card and not break ubuntu 12.10?
[20:12] <SolarisBoy> next time ensure no iptables rules are enabled - configure ufw which will read it's rules from preset locations - and then enable it after you know the rules will work
[20:12] <D4rkH4nd> Okay, ill wipe and do a clean install then.
[20:12] <aristidesfl> SolarisBoy no iptable rules are enabled
[20:12] <nishttal2> hello ppl.. just did a fresh install of Ubuntu server 12.04 LTS and every thing went fine.. after reboot i got the grub list and went on to boot ubuntu but i dont see anything on the screen.. the screen green led is on
[20:12] <XiaolinDraconis> D4rkH4nd, backup the home directory if you want to keep your settings
[20:12] <L3top> saurabh_: the "legacy" driver is the open source radeon driver... and it is used by default in your circumstance
[20:13] <SolarisBoy> aristidesfl: and how do you access the machine? ssh or other remote protocol?
[20:13] <aristidesfl> SolarisBoy ssh
[20:13] <SolarisBoy> if so - ensure said remote protocol is in your allowances..
[20:13] <SolarisBoy> if you flip on ufw or any other firewall - it may not automatically do that..
[20:13] <D4rkH4nd> Well being a linux nub i can call a fresh wipe a learning lesson LOL
[20:13] <SolarisBoy> 'sudo ufw allow ssh' aristidesfl
[20:13] <saurabh_> L3top: but that sucks. Its very slow and is making my laptop go crazy hot
[20:13] <PyGuy> L3top, alright, I'm back from rebootin'
[20:13] <L3top> and?
[20:13] <XiaolinDraconis> D4rkH4nd, i know what you mean, ive been there a few times
[20:13] <SolarisBoy> in short the fw did what it should have - block the connection you didn't allow
[20:13] <PyGuy> The resolutions are even smaller
[20:14] <D4rkH4nd> Just not looking forward to getting my video driver again that took several days
[20:14] <L3top> PyGuy: can you please pastebin your /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[20:14] <xangua> D4rkH4nd: since you never state what the actual problem is, no you can't :)
[20:14] <PyGuy> How do I pastebin?
[20:15] <L3top> saurabh_: I recommend dropping AMD a line on their forums. I think you will find some company there.
[20:15] <islandmonkey> Since jumping ship at 11.04 from Windows I've only had to do a clean install once and that was my fault
[20:15] <bekks> !pastebinit | PyGuy
[20:15] <saurabh_> L3top. will amd 12.4 driver work in any case on ubuntu 12.10?
[20:15] <nishttal2> anyone? its been stuck at a blank screen for an hour.. if i press ctrl+alt+del it reboots
[20:15] <saurabh_> L3top: I will.
[20:15] <D4rkH4nd> xangua: yes i did broken desktop lol like 90% of the people. No short cuts/left and right click wont work. Docks dont work
[20:15] <L3top> I dont know with the version of xorg saurabh_
[20:15] <islandmonkey> !patience | nishttal2
[20:16] <L3top> saurabh_: you might follow the steps to uninstall fglrx and reinstall mesa stuff and reconfigure... might help... one sec and I will pastebin
[20:16] <nishttal2> islandmonkey: well i waited till my 1st msg scrolled out of the screen :)
[20:16] <rvgate> after setting up gmail as a webappm, the launcher it not displaying any notifications for new emails... neither is my enveloppe turning blue on the top right... why... ?
[20:16] <saurabh_> L3top: But I'm not using any proprietary drivers now
[20:17] <L3top> did you upgrade or fresh install saurabh_?
[20:17] <miraj> rvgate> Are you sure you've gotten any emails?
[20:17] <xangua> rvgate: do you have firefox open, with the gmail page loaded¿
[20:17] <XiaolinDraconis> is there a way to make top list by memory usuage?
[20:18] <rvgate> miraj, funny... ofc i do... :)
[20:18] <PyGuy> L3top: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1290280/
[20:18] <Barbaren> anyone here dual booting win8 & ubuntu? i'm having problems mounting my win8 partition
[20:18] <SolarisBoy> XiaolinDraconis: sort by RSS
[20:18] <SolarisBoy> XiaolinDraconis: type ? in the top screen
[20:18] <SolarisBoy> you will see the sort characters XiaolinDraconis
[20:18] <XiaolinDraconis> SolarisBoy, thanks
[20:18] <rvgate> xangua, yes, gmail is open in firefox.. when i click the launcher, it opens in firefox
[20:18] <SolarisBoy> XiaolinDraconis: yq
[20:18] <SolarisBoy> =) XiaolinDraconis i meant yw
[20:19] <saurabh_> L3top: I first upgraded and it break my system. Now I have formatted my drive and did a fresh install
[20:19] <L3top> saurabh_: then nevermind...
[20:20] <saurabh_> L3top: I'm gonna try ati 12.9 beta drivers. It that doesn't work, I might probably switch back to ubuntu 12.04
[20:20] <L3top> PyGuy: that is a very minimal xorg... did this work before? Can you please reexplain how you came to this situation? Did you upgrade, fresh install, was it ever working with this monitor?
[20:20] <L3top> saurabh_: do that... please report back
[20:20] <rikietje> Good evening! I have a question. I have a dual boot UBUNTU12.04 with Windows 7. We have a shared partition called Storage. Is it possible to change the documents folder of ubuntu to this storage drive?
[20:21] <saurabh_> L3top: Ya, I will.
[20:21] <SolarisBoy> rikietje: you can soft link it - but what file system is it if you dont mind me asking?
[20:21] <rikietje> The shared partition is NTFS
[20:21] <miraj> rikietje> do you already have it set to automount at boot?
[20:21] <L3top> saurabh_: while you are at it... might try the older driver with new xorg... http://pastebin.com/L6u739Cm do that between fglrx installs
[20:21] <PyGuy> L3top, well, I did a fresh install from a DVD and as soon as I typed the nvidia current command, all my graphics issues were gone but the resolution decreased heavily
[20:21] <SolarisBoy> you can soft link it - but you may run into odd permission issues here and there shouldn't be showstoppers in the Documents folder though
[20:22] <SolarisBoy> and ofcourse you need to mount the shared drive in linux and make sure the symlink exists
[20:22] <adrianrly> rikietje, edit ~/.config/user-dirs.dirs
[20:22] <rikietje> Okay iḿ very new to ubuntu how would you suggest doing it
[20:22] <L3top> PyGuy: you arent actually using the nvidia module... though it is specified for use in xorg. What version ubuntu is this?
[20:22] <PyGuy> 12.10
[20:22] <saurabh_> L3top: ok
[20:22] <L3top> !info nvidia-current
[20:23] <rvgate> xangua, miraj, i do get the "incoming message" popup on the top right desktop area which fades away after a few seconds... but still a white enveloppe and no number on the launcher icon
[20:23] <L3top> yeah... 304 should use that... no problem PyGuy. I am a bit bewildered.
[20:23] <rikietje> .r hi
[20:23] <rikietje> adrian i get an error back
[20:23] <miraj> rvgate, at least it works somehwat
[20:24] <L3top> PyGuy: can you grep nvidia /etc/modprobe.d/*
[20:24] <adrianrly> rikietje, what error ?
[20:24] <PyGuy> Well, I may have messed it up myself because I tried some solutions online that didn't help before comign to the irc
[20:24] <PyGuy> But I'll do that
[20:24] <L3top> PyGuy: results might have to go in a pastebin
[20:24] <rvgate> miraj, true.. but when im having a break and come back... i have no idea i got a new message
[20:24] <Barbaren> anyone here dual booting win8 & ubuntu? i'm having problems mounting my win8 partition
[20:24] <ActionParsnip> PyGuy: you may need an xorg.conf  this can happen if the screen isn't reporting its abilities
[20:24] <rikietje> no edit mailcap rules found for type application/octet-stream
[20:24] <L3top> ActionParsnip: we created one... still isnt in lsmod
[20:24] <Barbaren> specifically, it claims that the win8 disk is hibernated even though it isn't
[20:24] <ActionParsnip> L3top: gah
[20:24] <rikietje> how do i reply to you?
[20:25] <ActionParsnip> rikietje: type a few letters of the nick then hit tab
[20:25] <L3top> PyGuy: well... im not sure we checked that this time... lsmod | grep nvidia    again please
[20:25] <rikietje> ActionParsnip: thx
[20:25] <adrianrly> rikietje, with what editor are you trying to open that file? Open with gedit
[20:26] <miraj> rvgate, what were you using for mail checking?
[20:26] <rikietje> adrianrly: I cant follow you right now
[20:26] <rikietje> adrianrly: i typed the command in the terminal
[20:26] <Tex_Nick> Barbaren : I can't answer your question, however I have a question for you ... do you have a UEFI BIOS, and is the secure boot issue an issue with you ?
[20:26] <rvgate> miraj, xangua, it might have to do with multiple signed in accounts... when i login into my other gmail account with firefox it does turn blue and shows me the number on the launcher icon... correct info, but not for the account i want
[20:27] <PyGuy> L3top: still no result. I wouldn't mind doing a complete fresh install again as long as I know what to do to fix my res after apt-getting nvidia-current
[20:27]  * L3top wonders if nvidia package broke a bit... PyGuy can you type dpkg --configure -a
[20:27] <adrianrly> rikietje, type this: nano ~/.config/user-dirs.dirs
[20:27] <PyGuy> But I'll try that
[20:27] <rikietje> adrianrly: that brought me to an editor
[20:28] <PyGuy> Alright, I did that command
[20:28] <Barbaren> Tex_Nick: i do have that but i haven't enabled it i think, i'm booting with grub/MBR or whatever
[20:28] <L3top> PyGuy: no output?
[20:28] <PyGuy> Nope
[20:28] <rikietje> adrianrly: whatś next
[20:28] <Barbaren> Tex_Nick: i just ran the standard ubuntu installer without anything special
[20:28]  * L3top scratches mistake maker
[20:28] <ghabit> Is it possible to get working online|offline button on gnome-shell (top-right, on the panel, on the user's nickname) stauses with pidgin?
[20:28] <GoldStandard> Are there updated ndiswrapper files for 12.10 yet?
[20:28] <miraj> rvgate, are you checking your through pop, or web interface?
[20:28] <rvgate> miraj, webinterface
[20:29] <adrianrly> rikietje, that was the idea. Edit the paths aka the paths on your „Storage” partition. To save the file CTRL+X, then type Y and press Enter.
[20:29] <Barbaren> Tex_Nick: and i haven't had any issues at all
[20:29] <Barbaren> Tex_Nick: was just as easy as setting up win7 + ubuntu
[20:29] <L3top> PyGuy: I have to switch servers... bbiam
[20:29] <xangua>  ghabit did you check the gnome plugin web¿ i've seen an addon for pidgin status and notifications
[20:29] <Barbaren> Tex_Nick: this is the first issue i have that's related to win8
[20:29] <xangua> well two addons :P
[20:29] <miraj> rvgate, I think gmail allows pop access, doing it with pop might make a difference
[20:29] <rikietje> adrianrly: I want to change the path of the documents folder in Ubuntu to media/storage/mijn documenten
[20:29] <rikietje> adrianrly: how should i do that?
[20:30] <ghabit> xangua, do you mean https://extensions.gnome.org/ ?
[20:30] <rvgate> miraj, i dont want it trhough pop... i want it as its supposed to work with the new feature
[20:31] <adrianrly> rikietje, change this line: XDG_DOCUMENTS_DIR="$HOME/Documents" to XDG_DOCUMENTS_DIR="/media/storage/mijn documenten". Be sure to check the path as it's case sensitive.
[20:31] <D4rkH4nd> I was wondering about  desktop manegr like gnome vs KDE and such. What would be the most nub friendly to use ?
[20:31] <rikietje> adrianrly: i dont want you to think im really stupid but where should i find that line? (im new to ubuntu)
[20:31] <Galvatron> is there some hack to disable the titlebars with close buttons in the "Scale" mode?
[20:31] <Galvatron> In 12.10
[20:31] <iceroot> D4rkH4nd: kde and unity are both ok for beginners, use the one you like most (i would suggest unity (ubuntu defaults))
[20:31] <papachan> ubuntu tweak development stopped
[20:32] <LuizAngioletti> How do I search packages.ubuntu.com for a specific package? I'm interested in the libcap2 and libcap2-bin...
[20:32] <miraj> D4rkH4nd, (just an opinion)  xfce
[20:32] <iceroot> LuizAngioletti: apt-cache search packagename
[20:32] <adrianrly> rikietje, did you opened the file with nano ?
[20:32] <L3top> PyGuy: can you stop x for a minute? ( sudo lightdm stop        I think)
[20:32] <indieross> papachan, i sincerely hope someone else takes over development
[20:32] <D4rkH4nd> can you customize unity dock ?
[20:32] <LuizAngioletti> iceroot: I have no internet on the target machine
[20:32] <papachan> indieross: yeah me too !
[20:33] <Galvatron> D4rkH4nd: Unity is simpler, whilst KDE is overloaded (bloated) with features.
[20:33] <L3top> PyGuy: I want you to modprobe nvidia-current when you do... then start again
[20:33] <Galvatron> Unity is a mac-like approach
[20:33] <rikietje> adrianrly: yes but the file is empty
[20:33] <adrianrly> D4rkH4nd, what kind of user are you? nub or power?
[20:33] <adrianrly> rikietje, what ubuntu version do you have ?
[20:33] <Galvatron> I'm power and I love Unity
[20:33] <LuizAngioletti> iceroot: the answer is: use google. =/
[20:33] <PyGuy> It says failed to use bus name :s
[20:33] <rikietje> adrianrly: im at 12.04
[20:33] <L3top> !ot | there are a lot of people in here... please stop the chit chat...
[20:33] <PyGuy> Even with sudo
[20:34] <Tex_Nick> Barbaren : I'm thinking of upgrading to Win 8 ( hate to but must provide some customer support ) and was wondering about problems associated with serure boot
[20:34] <D4rkH4nd> Im new to linux but fast at learning it
[20:34] <saurabh_> !ot  |  Hey
[20:34] <saurabh_> !ot | Hey
[20:34] <aristidesfl> SolarisBoy
[20:34] <saurabh_> !ot  |  Hey
[20:34] <LuizAngioletti> iceroot: on another machine.. of course. =) Thank you anyhow.
[20:34] <miraj> Tex_Nick, they've recently announced a potential solution, by the linux community buying a uefi secure boot key
[20:34] <adrianrly> rikietje, can you please double check if you typed this command correctly?: nano ~/.config/user-dirs.dirs
[20:34] <D4rkH4nd> Tex_Nick: Win 8 is win7 with glitery stuff on it and it kinda laim
[20:35] <L3top> pyguy... do you have your onboard card disabled? (me would expect it to show up in lspci | grep VGA if it was a problem... but still)
[20:35] <rikietje> adrianrly: retyped it and now i see lines
[20:35] <aristidesfl> I don't have a graphic environment configured on that machine
[20:35] <aristidesfl> SolarisBoy I don't have a graphic environment configured on that machine
[20:35] <aristidesfl> I've tried the safe mode
[20:35] <rikietje> adrianrly: editing it thanks standby please
[20:36] <miraj> Tex_Nick, but they haven't bought the secure boot key yet, and evil emporer MS might say no
[20:36] <aristidesfl> and drop a root shell
[20:36] <aristidesfl> but it only allows the fs to be read, not written
[20:36] <adrianrly> rikietje, ok. You will have to relogin for the changes to have effect.
[20:36] <SolarisBoy> aristidesfl: im sorry i didn't get the question =(
[20:36] <D4rkH4nd> miraj: EPIC that is now how i will referr to MS lol
[20:36] <Tex_Nick> miraj : yeah i've seen some chatter on the web about that ... one solution proposed obtaining a license from Micro$oft :( lol
[20:36] <SolarisBoy> ill scroll up some
[20:37] <PyGuy> I dunno. I'm semi-new to Linux in general (using Ubuntu for a few months). Like I said, I wouldn't mind a clean install if I knew how to fix the resolution after apt-getting nvidia-current
[20:37] <drm> So, you guys now how you can make a bootable USB for linux?
[20:37] <aristidesfl> SolarisBoy I don't have a prompt or a guy on my box
[20:37] <Barbaren> Tex_Nick: yep, i haven't had any problems really, i don't think it's a problem at all, but then i'm running a pre-release as well (which should be final, provided by my uni). I think win 8 is ok, it's faster than win 7 but the whole "apps" thing is kinda retarded, also, it's less user friendly than win 7 so i think it will be a flop, but it's fine to use for a poweruser/someone experienced
[20:37] <aristidesfl> it's black
[20:37] <SolarisBoy> aristidesfl: okies what is that you desire to do?
[20:37] <xangua> drm: you have the instructions at ubuntu.com
[20:37] <sourav> hey guys i change my dns to opendns via resolv.conf but after reboot resolv.conf gets empty and i have to manually enter dns again any fix so that resolv.conf stays to opendns
[20:37] <drm> anyone, i'm having a bit of difficulty making a partition on there. i want part of the flash drive for ubuntu, the other for regular storage
[20:37] <WeThePeople> thothcastel, if you need to update firmware use firmware-extract from the software center
[20:37] <aristidesfl> SolarisBoy disable ufw
[20:37] <SolarisBoy> aristidesfl: 'sudo ufw disable'
[20:38] <aristidesfl> SolarisBoy I don't have a prompt
[20:38] <designbybeck> drm http://www.ubuntu.com/download/help/create-a-usb-stick-on-windows
[20:38] <drm> xangua: i want to make a partition on there, and flipping the removable bit(making it look like hdd) doesn't work
[20:38] <SolarisBoy> aristidesfl: are you talking someone through it thats at the console?
[20:38] <Tex_Nick> Barbaren : hey ... thanks for the feedback on that ^5
[20:38] <aristidesfl> SolarisBoy no
[20:38] <aristidesfl> I have the computer with me
[20:38] <drm> xangua I WANT TO MAKE A PARTITION. I know what the instructions say, lol, I just need help making the partition..
[20:38] <rikietje> adrianrly: okay rebooting
[20:38] <SolarisBoy> aristidesfl: okay.. and what is it that you see on the screen?
[20:39] <Barbaren> Tex_Nick: np
[20:39] <aristidesfl> SolarisBoy black
[20:39] <aristidesfl> unless I bring grub
[20:39] <aristidesfl> and select the safe boot
[20:39] <adrianrly> rikietje, don't reboot. Just logout then login.
[20:39] <L3top> ok.. PyGuy lets try this... please give me the output of this:     lspci | grep ' VGA ' | while IFS=':. ' read -r tok1 tok2 tok3 rest; do printf '%2s %2s %s\n' "$((16#${tok1}))":"$((16#${tok2}))":"$((16#${tok3}))" | sed -e 's/ //g'; done
[20:39] <ejo> Hello.  Like many (it appears) I am finding that the bootable stick created by "startup disk creator" on one 12.10 machine is not actually bootable by another machine that I am trying to upgrade.  What can I do about this?
[20:39] <aristidesfl> which gives me a menu
[20:39] <sourav> resolv.conf changes after reboot any fix for this
[20:39] <aristidesfl> there is an option to open a console
[20:40] <PyGuy> 1:0:0
[20:40] <ejo> I have of course set the boot priorities properly in the BIOS.  But the error I get is "This is not a bootable disk."
[20:40] <aristidesfl> but the fs is mounted read only
[20:40] <miraj> sourav> you can set the file permissions so it can't change?
[20:40] <sourav> can u guide me i don't use network manager
[20:41] <ActionParsnip> sourav: addthe name server in /etc/resolvconf/resolv.conf.d/tail
[20:41] <aristidesfl> SolarisBoy ?
[20:41] <ActionParsnip> scruff: same format as /etc/resolv.conf   with:  nameserver <IP_ADDRESS>
[20:42] <rvgate> How do i uninstall a previous installed webapp...
[20:42] <willdabeast> I am trying to install Ubuntu 12.04 on an HP Pavilion dv4 laptop but as soon as I click Install Ubuntu, the screen turns black and doesn't do anything. Any thoughts? I assume it's video card issues
[20:42] <xangua> !usb | drm
[20:42] <L3top> PyGuy: please add the following line to your xorg.conf under Section "Device":         BusID          "PCI:1:0:0"
[20:43] <sourav> hey this file is empty /etc/resolvconf/resolv.conf.d/tail
[20:43] <xangua> sourav: are you trying to change your dns¿
[20:43] <sourav> yea
[20:43] <PyGuy> like at the bottom?
[20:43] <SolarisBoy> lol
[20:43]  * L3top will lick this if it kills him...
[20:43] <L3top> let me look again PyGuy
[20:43] <L3top> yes PyGuy
[20:44] <ghabit> help - cannot cp files from ntfs disk - something like 'cannot perform "stat" for /media/e/blah.conf
[20:44] <ghabit> How to solve this?
[20:44] <xangua> sourav: just use the network manager to do it for the network youare using; or if you wanna do it globaly http://www.liberiangeek.net/2012/05/setup-static-dns-servers-in-ubuntu-12-04-precise-pangolin/ -just use gksu instead of sudo for graphical apps-
[20:44] <willdabeast> I am trying to install Ubuntu 12.04 on an HP Pavilion dv4 laptop but as soon as I click Install Ubuntu, the screen turns black and doesn't do anything. Any thoughts? I assume it's video card issues
[20:44] <SolarisBoy> aristidesfl: when is the last time you rebooted this? firewalls shouldn't halt boot - they may halt network activity - switch to the console - emergency shell, safe boot or whatever and try from there
[20:45] <scouts> hi