[12:32] <Sturmeh> GIn i blame the vendors for not writing drivers for linux
[12:33] <matt_____> nope - have no idea what that is heh
[12:33] <GIn> Sturmeh: it will happen . just a matter of time ;)
[12:33] <matt_____> sudo iwconfig?
[12:33] <GIn> matt_____: yes, in the terminal
[12:33] <toogreen_> GIn, I know, i'm not complaining you know, just find it strange that it stopped working just days before release.. I forgot to mentioned it used to work even after upgrading to hardy, it just stopped working a few days ago after a usual update... anyway, hopefully it will be resolved before release
[12:34] <GIn> toogreen_: then it is best to report that to the developers
[12:34] <matt_____> lo        no wireless extensions.
[12:34] <matt_____> eth0      no wireless extensions.
[12:34] <matt_____> eth1      IEEE 802.11b/g  ESSID:"70Kiddles"  Nickname:"Broadcom 4318"
[12:34] <matt_____>           Mode:Managed  Frequency=2.472 GHz  Access Point: Invalid
[12:34] <matt_____>           Bit Rate=1 Mb/s   Tx-Power=19 dBm
[12:34] <FloodBot1> matt_____: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:34] <matt_____>           RTS thr:off   Fragment thr:off
[12:34] <it_rains> i will reboot..
[12:34] <toogreen_> GIn, ok, will do
[12:35] <cjzjm100> Hi,guys!If i had download my emails to my computer by evolution,are they in the ~/.evolution by default? If i update the evolution,will they be overwrited?And if i remove the evolution,will they be removed?
[12:35] <GIn> matt_____: your card works, but a bit slow
[12:36] <GIn> cjzjm100: if you update evolution, they won' t be overwritten by the new update
[12:36] <matt_____> hmm - browsing just tells me that there is no connection at all
[12:36] <matt_____> I understand thre are difficulties when using broadcoms - heh
[12:36] <odder> hm. Got a pretty weird problem. When I kill my gnome-panel app, my keyboard shortcuts simply don't work anymore. Is it normal? I use GNOME 2.14.1 on a Dapper-derivative.
[12:37] <GIn> odder: yes, that's normal afaik
[12:38] <heymr_> chown 775 -R /home/me
[12:38] <heymr_> this is very bad right?
[12:38] <heymr_> how can I revert that?
[12:38] <cjzjm100> GIn,what about removing the evolution?will they be remove?
[12:38] <GIn> cjzjm100: nope, removing evolution won't remove ~/.evolution
[12:39] <nonewmsgs> is there a secret to installing windows after ubuntu so it doesn't overwrite grub or fsck things up?
[12:39] <|Debian|> !add repository
[12:39] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about add repository - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[12:39] <|Debian|> !repository
[12:39] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecommendedSources for the recommended way to set up your repositories
[12:40] <heymr_> to revert chown 775 -R /home/me ? anyone?
[12:40] <n-iCe> Hello everybody
[12:40] <Cahan> nonewmsgs, IIRC you have to reinstall GRUB
[12:40] <TWP-SirStaal> Is a firewall necessary with ubuntu? and what would it prevent?
[12:40] <Leeuw> nonewmsgs: if you have more than 1 harddisk in yer rig itś easy; just boot from the second disk and install there, after that go back to first and add windoze to grub...
[12:40] <cjzjm100> GIn,were the emails  downloaded in the ~/.evolution by default?
[12:40] <jussio1> !firewall | TWP-SirStaal
[12:40] <n-iCe> How can I Know my wireless name?
[12:40] <ubotu> TWP-SirStaal: Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).
[12:41] <nonewmsgs> how to add windows to grub? i know the first line is what drive/partition
[12:41] <cjzjm100>  GIn,were the emails  downloaded in the ~/.evolution by default?
[12:41] <TWP-SirStaal> Thanks
[12:41] <Jemt> Greetz. Dosn't 'dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg' give you any questions on Ubuntu ?
[12:41] <jussio1> Jemt: no
[12:41] <jussio1> Jemt: take away the -phigh and it will
[12:41] <Leeuw> nonewmsgs: there is an app in synaptic that's a gui to grub; thatś the easiest way, I think
[12:41] <Jemt> jussi01: Do you know how that's possible? On Debian it does
[12:42] <n-iCe> How can I install 01:00.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM94311MCG wlan mini-PCI (rev 01) ??
[12:42] <jussio1> Jemt: the -phigh just gets a new one
[12:42] <Jemt> jussi01: I know. I'm just trying to figure out the differences between Debian and Ubuntu on this level
[12:42] <nonewmsgs> thanks everyone :) my ubuntu brothers (and sisters?) are the best
[12:42] <Leeuw> nonewmsgs: something like 'grub settings' or so, just search 'grub' and look for it
[12:42] <Jemt> jussi01: "gets a new one" ?
[12:42] <GIn> cjzjm100: um, honestly I don't know. but removing an application won't remove the user's data
[12:42] <jussio1> !bcm43xx | n-iCe
[12:42] <ubotu> n-iCe: Help with Broadcom bcm43xx can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs/Driver/Broadcom43xx
[12:42] <Leeuw> nonewmsgs: you know it ! :P
[12:42] <Leeuw> and I agree...
[12:42] <n-iCe> ubot ok thanks
[12:43] <jussio1> Jemt: resets it to the default basic config
[12:43] <jussio1> !bot | n-iCe
[12:43] <ubotu> n-iCe: I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[12:43] <tomolds_> Which email client do you recommend?
[12:43] <n-iCe> jussio1 have you installed it before?
[12:44] <Jemt> jussi01: Don't it run the detection again ?
[12:44] <Jemt> Dosn't
[12:44] <jussio1> Jemt: no, without the -phigh it does.
[12:44] <jussio1> n-iCe: yes
[12:44] <n-iCe> jussio1 awesome let me read it
[12:44] <Jemt> jussi01: Okay. Do you know how Ubuntu auto detects video card and monitor then ? I thought it just ran 'dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg' on boot
[12:45] <jussio1> Jemt: hrm, Im not certain of it. Im sorry
[12:45] <n-iCe> jussio1 wait please, let me try
[12:45] <Jemt> Okay, thanks anyways, jussi01 :)
[12:45] <nks16> Hello, where can I go to get a top of the line pre-installed ubuntu linux laptop ?
[12:46] <jussio1> n-iCe: Im going to be up and down from the pc. If I dont answer, Im sorry
[12:46] <n-iCe> :<
[12:46] <n-iCe> This will be quick
[12:46] <n-iCe> I Did update and upgrade
[12:47] <jtravnick> will gnomebaker burn mpg files so they can be watched on a normal dvd player?
[12:47] <bazhang> jtr
[12:48] <bazhang> jtravnick: no
[12:48] <bazhang> jtravnick: need some things like devede
[12:48] <jtravnick> bazhang, k didnt think so but wasnt sure if i was just doing something wrong
[12:49] <tums> hi
[12:49] <n-iCe> jussio1:  should I follow the Internet Enabled Installation tutorial?
[12:49] <tums> did any body know yahoo sniffer in linux
[12:49] <tums> ?
[12:50] <bazhang> tums: what is it
[12:50] <Chri1> where are cookies stored in the file system?
[12:50] <tums> yahoo messenger sniffer
[12:50] <it_rains> gln: i followed the webpage you gave me and rebooted. but still no sound.
[12:50] <tums> a software
[12:51] <bazhang> tums please describe in detail the purpose of said software
[12:52] <vova_kubba> !quote 29
[12:52] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about quote 29 - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[12:52] <GIn> it_rains: does lsmod | grep snd give you any output?
[12:52] <vova_kubba> !quote 16
[12:52] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about quote 16 - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[12:52] <vova_kubba> :)
[12:52] <mettao87> hi. i have a problem whit a cd-r. the cd is writed but ubuntu recognise it like blank. what can i do? (i'm italian, sorry for my imperfect english).. thanks...
[12:52] <tums> i need a software for monitor yahoo messenger in my network
[12:52] <bazhang> vova_kubba: please /msg ubotu for fun if you wish
[12:53] <odder> !it | mettao87
[12:53] <ubotu> mettao87: Vai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[12:53] <bazhang> mettao87: is is data cd or iso cd
[12:53] <mettao87> data
[12:53] <arcsky> Hi i wonder why doesnt all conf files and so get deleted when i do apt-get remove apache2 ?
[12:53] <bazhang> mettao87: burned with what software
[12:53] <it_rains> gln: can i paste the result here?
[12:53] <GIn> it_rains: nope
[12:53] <Starnestommy> arcsky: use sudo apt-get remove --purge apache2
[12:53] <GIn> !pastebin ! it_rains
[12:54] <mettao87> the standard software of ubuntu.
[12:54] <odder> mettao87: try osking on the italian channel, it should be easier for you to communicate with them
[12:54] <odder> asking*
[12:54] <GIn> it_rains: use pastebin
[12:54] <GIn> !pastebin
[12:54] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post multiple-lined texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic)
[12:54] <mettao87> odder: i've already done it but they don't answer...
[12:54] <it_rains> sorry i don't understand what pastebin means..
[12:54] <GIn> it_rains: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[12:54] <Chri1> Can anyone help? Where are cookies stored in the file system?
[12:54] <it_rains> oh..
[12:55] <|Debian|> i've added wine to my reps and when i search i still can't install it
[12:55] <odder> mettao87: okay, we'll try to help you
[12:55] <odder> |Debian|: what exactly did you add to your /etc/apt/sources.list?
[12:55] <GIn> |Debian|: wine is in the repo by default ( I think)
[12:55] <bazhang> |Debian|: did you update? sudo apt-get update
[12:55] <n-iCe> How can I change my desktop configurations? I mean to put the recycle bin etc
[12:55] <n-iCe> !recycle
[12:55] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about recycle - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[12:56] <|Debian|> bazhang: Failed to fetch http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt/dists/dapper/Release  Unable to find expected entry
[12:56] <n-iCe> !recicle
[12:56] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about recicle - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[12:56] <n-iCe> !trash
[12:56] <ubotu> Want to see volume/trash icons on the desktop? Go to /apps/nautilus/desktop in gconf-editor (GNOME) or go to http://kudos.berlios.de/kf/kisimlar/tipsntrix.html#showtrash (KDE)
[12:56] <it_rains> gln: please see!! http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/63819/
[12:56] <mettao87> bazhang: i burned it with the cd/dvd creator of ubuntu
[12:56] <GIn> n-iCe: the recycle bin is just a directory ~/.Trash
[12:56] <bazhang> n-iCe: you can /msg ubotu with keywords in private window
[12:56] <mettao87> odder: ok thank you.
[12:57] <bazhang> mettao87: can you try again using gnomebaker or another app?
[12:57] <mettao87> have i to write it again?
[12:57] <bazhang> mettao87: are you able to? do you have an extra cd-r?
[12:58] <GIn> it_rains: my nick is Gin by the way not GLn
[12:58] <arcsky> Starnestommy: oki, now when i do apt-get install apache2, i dont get this directory /etc/apache2
[12:58] <GIn> it_rains: it seems there are drivers loaded for your card
[12:58] <Sturmeh> capital I to u
[12:58] <Sturmeh> :P
[12:58] <it_rains> opps.. Sorry! :-)
[12:58] <GIn> it_rains: as I said, play with the settings..
[12:59] <GIn> it_rains: are your speakers turned on?
[12:59] <GIn> volume of the speakers not muted?
[12:59] <bejo> hi
[12:59] <it_rains> not muted.
[12:59] <mettao87> yes i have it.. i can try. but there is a strange particular. the first time i inserted the cd-r ubuntu saw it right.
[12:59] <GIn> it_rains: how are you testing your sound card to see if it works or not?
[13:00] <mettao87> after that i restarted the system to boot from cd.
[13:00] <it_rains> i'm using system>preference>sound> test
[13:00] <mettao87> and then off... the cd-r now is blank for my computer....
[13:00] <r0dzilla> have you tried using alsamixer to unmute your sound card? sometimes gnome volume control won't show it and most sound cards are muted by default
[13:01] <|Debian|> Failed to fetch http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt/dists/dapper/Release  Unable to find expected entry
[13:01] <|Debian|> any ideas
[13:01] <banditul> how i can i install xmms on 8.04 ?
[13:01] <gwork> Hi all.. I'm installing a new pc with ubuntu, dual boot. I need to choose the type of filesystem: ext3 or xfs. My home directories will be stored on a central file server. What would you advice for the / system?
[13:01] <GIn> it_rains: are they set to auto detect?
[13:01] <odder> banditul: sudo apt-get install xmss? :)
[13:01] <spe3dy> gwork, ext3
[13:01] <banditul> odder,  don't work
[13:01] <it_rains> yes.
[13:01] <gwork> spe3dy: why not xfs? it seems faster and still has a journal
[13:02] <GIn> it_rains: a faster way to test is, play a long movie, then leave it on and play with your sound settings
[13:02] <ere4si> banditul: try xmms2
[13:02] <banditul> odder, Package xmms is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[13:02] <GIn> it_rains: gutsy right?
[13:02] <odder> |Debian|: did you follow http://www.winehq.org/site/download-deb ?
[13:02] <it_rains> it's hardy.
[13:02] <|Debian|> odder , yes
[13:03] <bazhang> mettao87: you cannot boot from a data cd only an iso cd
[13:03] <GIn> it_rains: :S Hardy uses pulse audio.. try in #Ubuntu+1 :\
[13:03] <spe3dy> gwork, backswards compatibilty
[13:03] <odder> banditul: if xmms2 won't work, then try aptitude search xmss for example
[13:03] <spe3dy> *backwards
[13:03] <mettao87> it is iso cd.... i downloaded debian's image and i wrote it...
[13:03] <gwork> spe3dy: please explain. why do i need backward compatibility for  a root filesystem?
[13:03] <banditul> what is your favorite mp3 player ?
[13:03] <odder> |Debian|: did you then sudo apt-get update?
[13:04] <spe3dy> gwork, incase you run applications that were designed tpo specificially manipulate the ext2 filesystem
[13:04] <bazhang> mettao87: that is iso and not data; you said data
[13:04] <mettao87> sorry......
[13:04] <it_rains> ok. thank you a loy gin!! :-)
[13:04] <gwork> spe3dy: i think i won't ...
[13:04] <it_rains> a loy i mean..
[13:05] <it_rains> oh.. i press t but..
[13:05] <|Debian|> odder yes
[13:05] <odder> |Debian|: and you still can't install wine?
[13:05] <GIn> it_rains: but I am sure your card works, because the drivers are loaded.  take your time and play with the volume settings, unmute, check the switchs, raise the volume bars etc. g'luck
[13:05] <|Debian|> i get that error
[13:05] <it_rains> thank you so much!
[13:06] <ridicule> Hey can anyone help me setting up an OpenVPN server, i'm getting very stuck and confused ?
[13:06] <visof> how can i update and add a lot of repository packages for ubuntu 7.04?
[13:06] <mitk0k> Hi, guys. I changed my hostname ( computer name ) and now I have problems with Synaptic Package Manager ( i cannot run it ). Sudo is also not working in the console : "unable to resolve hostname ...."
[13:07] <odder> !update | visof
[13:07] <ubotu> visof: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[13:07] <mettao87> the question is, why the first time i used the cd ubuntu recognised it and from the second time to now ubuntu recognise it like blank???
[13:07] <odder> visof: hm. Try following http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Feisty#How_to_add_extra_repositories
[13:09] <icesword> mettao87, chances are you sure your cd drive is okay?
[13:09] <mettao87> yes... i use it whit other cd..
[13:09] <saurabh> is there a difference between rp-pppoe and stock pppoe ?
[13:10] <mettao87> icesword, how can i check if it is really okay?
[13:10] <mitk0k> anyone ?
[13:10] <icesword> hmm
[13:10] <icesword> mettao87, try another cd ?
[13:11] <teo> "Hello World!" ;-)
[13:11] <icesword>  mettao87 is it just a common cd drive or dvd drive? and when you bought it
[13:11] <mettao87> dvd drive of asus notebook
[13:12] <mettao87> ok, i inserted a music cd-r and it function....
[13:12] <clinckx> Who can help me too install/configure X on Windows Vista?  I want to connect to a remote kubuntu workstation and run X server on Vista
[13:12] <icesword> mettao87, hmm, then it is ok
[13:13] <Paddy_EIRE> !windows | clinckx
[13:13] <ubotu> clinckx: For discussion and help with Microsoft Windows, please visit ##windows. See http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm and /msg ubotu equivalents
[13:13] <Paddy_EIRE> clinckx: this is for ubuntu support only.
[13:13] <bvm> hi, am on a Dell Latitude D600 just upgraded to 8.04RC and managed to get bcmxx wireless working, but during the upgrade, compiz has stopped working. My card is an ATI mobility radeon 9000. I had compiz working fine in gutsy. Does anyone have any ideas for a diagnosis or a potential fix?
[13:13] <clinckx> but... it's is a remote configuration to ubuntu...
[13:13] <clinckx> with putty
[13:14] <clinckx> and xwing
[13:14] <bvm> starting from terminal with --no-checks i get Fatal: GLX_EXT_texture_from_pixmap is missing
[13:14] <TuxIce> Hello
[13:14] <TuxIce> Is there a programming help section of ubuntu irc?
[13:14] <ciastek> Look for someone with GNOME 2.22 and two spare minutes.
[13:15] <CarlCox> http://i27.tinypic.com/2vtwt3d.jpg  <<< can any1 tell me what's the problem ?
[13:15] <TuxIce> hello?
[13:15] <TuxIce> #ubuntu-programming maybe?
[13:15] <toresn> how do i move multiple directories to one destination, using the command line?
[13:16] <transformers> hello i wam geting 8139ct error when trying to isntall ubuntu
[13:16] <mattywarr> hi there - is wine installed by default to ubuntu or is there a way i need to install it?
[13:16] <mettao87> iceswor: now i inserted debian's cd and ubuntu ricognised it.... probably now it function..... mmmmmm.... thank you. bie
[13:16] <Seveas> toresn, mv /path/to/dir1 /path/to/dir2 /path/to/dir3 /path/to/dest
[13:16] <bvm> mv xx && mv xx && xx?
[13:16] <bvm> yeh, ignore me
[13:16] <mameman> @ mattywar in terminal type   sudo apt-get install wine
[13:17] <toresn> Seveas: ah, that simple, ty
[13:17] <mattywarr> cool - thanks mameman :)
[13:17] <mameman> no problem
[13:17] <TuxIce> ok heres a programming question - is there any way to setup your index.html file to check what browser your using and forward you to the appropriate page for example if yur using ie you get forwarded to /ie
[13:18] <mameman> ummm
[13:18] <kklimonda> TuxIce: using javascript
[13:18] <mameman> @tuxice goto w3 schools
[13:18] <spe3dy> javascript
[13:18] <spe3dy> bad idea
[13:18] <spe3dy> lots of users dont even have js enabled in their browser
[13:18] <mameman> is it?
[13:18] <TuxIce> anyway to do it with html
[13:18] <spe3dy> you cant do it with html
[13:18] <vegpuff> hi, how do i set default applications for file types. i.e for avi -> xine and for .txt -> gedit
[13:18] <spe3dy> you have to ise a scripting language
[13:18] <Starnestommy> TuxIce: you could use javascript, replace index.html with a php script, or use a .htaccess file
[13:18] <spe3dy> like php for example
[13:18] <TuxIce> im creating a website and it dosent render the table on IE techotech.com/Dente
[13:18] <seamus7> how do I regenerate grub so that it uses the newest kernel on my system?
[13:19] <Paddy_EIRE> !grub
[13:19] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[13:19] <transformers> anyone fuckign oign to help me?
[13:19] <TuxIce> what kind of pho would you use
[13:19] <TuxIce> transformers - DO NOT SWEAR
[13:19] <ere4si> seamus7: sudo update-grub
[13:19] <transformers> TUXICE SHUT TEH FUCK UP!
[13:19] <spe3dy> TuxIce,  you're using depreciated HTML
[13:19] <spe3dy> no wonder you are having problems
[13:19] <mameman> tux google.com/html
[13:20] <transformers> TUXICE ASSHOLE
[13:20] <ompaul> !language | transformers
[13:20] <ubotu> transformers: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[13:20] <seamus7> ere4si: do I need to delete the old menu.lst first ...
[13:20] <mameman> dont swear
[13:20] <ere4si> seamus7: nope
[13:20] <transformers> HE IS A FUCKING NIGGER
[13:20] <Paddy_EIRE> ompaul: I'd just kick them
[13:20] <TuxIce> OK so upgrade to HTML 4.0
[13:20] <Paddy_EIRE> ompaul: :D
[13:20] <mameman> seamus7 do you want it to change the text on the boot menu?
[13:20] <TuxIce> actually im caucasian
[13:20] <vegpuff> any idea how to set default application for soem file types
[13:21] <icesword> lol. made me laugh
[13:21] <TuxIce> THX for the help ;D
[13:21] <vegpuff> open with other application option doesn't allow me to set the default application type
[13:22] <acomaco> how can i check where my USB pen drive is mounted?
[13:22] <vegpuff> ??
[13:22] <mameman> ummm
[13:22] <seamus7> mameman: got it .. thanks :) ... I had to delete menu.lst first
[13:22] <spe3dy> acomaco, should be in  /media/disk
[13:22] <mameman> o nice seamus
[13:22] <acomaco> Well, i want to format it..
[13:22] <pen> acomaco: right click gnome-panel
[13:22] <mameman> no spe3dy /media/disk is the windows partitions
[13:22] <acomaco> could i do, mkfs.vfat /media/disk?
[13:22] <pen> acomaco: add Disk Mounter
[13:23] <spe3dy> mameman,  not by default its not
[13:23] <pen> acomaco: there you have a neat mount applet
[13:23] <icesword> acomaco, don't hurrg, just make sure, try mount and see
[13:23] <spe3dy> mameman,  oh wait, i dont have windows installed, so for me by default its not
[13:23] <spe3dy> sorry
[13:23] <pen> icesword: hi
[13:23] <mameman> mines was by default after i mounted it lol
[13:23] <icesword> pen, good nite
[13:23] <acomaco> I'll just put it in my sisters computer and format then :P
[13:23] <pen> icesword: how's going?
[13:24] <icesword> not bad
[13:24] <icesword> i would say
[13:24] <spe3dy> acomaco,  look in the /media directory
[13:24] <spe3dy> it should be accessible from there
[13:24] <ere4si> hi icesword
[13:24] <Vasa> hi
[13:24] <davi> Is there a way to do a network install of Ubuntu, without downloading the full ISO image?
[13:24] <icesword> ere4si, hiya
[13:24] <ere4si> :)
[13:25] <icesword> ere4si, you need to go to sleep,  me thinks, hehe
[13:25] <davi> Is there a business-card or network install ISO image?
[13:25] <spe3dy> davi i think tehre is
[13:25] <mameman> @davi i dont think so you might have to take the cd and install over and over again
[13:25] <spe3dy> *there
[13:25] <ere4si> hehe
[13:25] <pen> davi: I think so
[13:25] <Vasa> I need some help: my resources tab says, that CPU usage is 100%, the fan runs on the maximum, but on the app, list nothings shows to use this load
[13:26] <Vasa> Anyway I have a HP Omnibook XE3 PIII, with speedstep, which I cannot make t owork
[13:26] <mameman> @vasa check what proceses are running
[13:26] <Paddy_EIRE> davi yes there is google and the official ubuntu website can be quite handy when it comes to these kinds of questions..
[13:26] <spe3dy> davi, apparently, you can do a network install, but there isnt a network iso, so you would still have tot download the full iso
[13:26] <LuteM> I just picked up a Everex gBook is there anyway to strip the gOS off the top of Ubuntu on there without doing a total reinstall
[13:26] <Vasa> none of them use the processor:(
[13:27] <Vasa> Pidgin 10%, gnome system monitor 15%
[13:27] <Vasa> and thats all:(
[13:27] <mameman> pidgin really takes up that much? wow
[13:27] <Vasa> And this often happens
[13:27] <Vasa> How can I solve this?
[13:27] <TuxIce> @lutem: i dont think so , can anyone verify
[13:27] <mameman> @ vasa switch over to kopete maybe that will work
[13:27] <Paddy_EIRE> davi some reading http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=750403 only took 2 secs to find on google ;)
[13:28] <spe3dy> Vasa,  what cpu you got?
[13:28] <TuxIce> can you use if / else in conky?
[13:28] <Paddy_EIRE> davi the reading leads here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/Netboot
[13:28] <LuteM> TuxIce: Bummer as I have some stuff set up already and would like to keep it if possible
[13:28] <Paddy_EIRE> :)
[13:28] <mameman> @vasa maybe its a bad installation of ubuntu or its a mistake
[13:29] <TuxIce> for example if youre CPU hit >47C Show CPU temp in red and if it hit >55C popup a window saying Warning!
[13:29]  * N3bunel saluta
[13:29] <Syntex_> i need help in xcha!
[13:29] <Syntex_> learnn me use it
[13:29] <mameman> google.com/cpuusage
[13:29] <Vasa> PIII coopermine
[13:29] <TuxIce> @lutem why dont you just backup with a flash drive?
[13:29] <Syntex_> how i can connect to channels????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
[13:29] <spe3dy> PIII lol
[13:29] <spe3dy> well
[13:29] <Vasa> it's not pidgin problem
[13:29] <spe3dy> thats old
[13:29] <Vasa> haha
[13:29] <Starnestommy> Syntex_: type /join #channel
[13:29] <CubaCola2> lu
[13:30] <Vasa> and then what? switch back to XP?
[13:30] <mameman> syntex_ what client are u using?
[13:30] <TuxIce> or use gparted to shrink yur drive install ubuntu on the freed space, backup your data, and expand the partition
[13:30] <Syntex_> why here is not ppl?
[13:30] <CubaCola2> bon il semlerait que tout mes disk dur meurt les ns apres les autres
[13:30] <mameman> no never go back to M$ windowz vasa
[13:30] <Vasa> It worked fine
[13:30] <Syntex_> I am at right channel
[13:30] <Syntex_> and now ppl
[13:30] <CubaCola2> sorry
[13:30] <Syntex_> where is  problem
[13:30] <spe3dy> Vasa,  paste the result of uname-a
[13:30] <spe3dy> ** uname -a
[13:30] <Vasa> Ok, then how can I normalize my cpu?
[13:31] <deserteagle> hello all
[13:31] <Vasa> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[13:31] <TuxIce> any conky experts
[13:31] <Vasa> sorry
[13:31] <TuxIce> ??
[13:31] <deserteagle> could someone please point me in the right direction for a vmware issue?
[13:31] <Paddy_EIRE> !anyone | TuxIce
[13:31] <ubotu> TuxIce: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[13:31] <LuteM> TuxIce: one thing I am a bit concerned with is I stuck a Debian netinstall disk in there and it can't seem to get my wifi going, and I am not all that familiar with hand setup
[13:31] <arthalion7> hi to everybody
[13:31] <Vasa> Linux hp 2.6.22-14-generic #1 SMP Sun Oct 14 23:05:12 GMT 2007 i686 GNU/L
[13:31] <Vasa> Linux hp 2.6.22-14-generic #1 SMP Sun Oct 14 23:05:12 GMT 2007 i686 GNU/L
[13:31] <Vasa> Linux hp 2.6.22-14-generic #1 SMP Sun Oct 14 23:05:12 GMT 2007 i686 GNU/L
[13:31] <FloodBot1> Vasa: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:32] <deserteagle> all i simply want is to boot an existing windows install inside linux
[13:32] <TuxIce> LuteM: Ubuntu has better Wifi support than debian i found, debian currently dosent support my CArd either, but ubuntu does
[13:32] <Paddy_EIRE> deserteagle: simply huh
[13:32] <Paddy_EIRE> ;)
[13:32] <mameman> @deserteagle there are tools look around  in synaptic
[13:32] <Vasa> any idea?
[13:32] <TuxIce> No body here can work with conky????
[13:32] <spe3dy> Vasa,  try the command top
[13:33] <Paddy_EIRE> TuxIce: apparently you do not know how to ask a question...
[13:33] <Vasa> 2.6.22-14
[13:33] <spe3dy> is there anything with strange high numbers in top vasa
[13:33] <TuxIce> good point.
[13:33] <TuxIce> ok ill shut it
[13:33] <n-iCe> !Broadcom4311
[13:33] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about broadcom4311 - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[13:33] <deserteagle> mameman: i installed vmware server but it won't let me create a new machine
[13:33] <gearfox> hello after some difficulty with nvidia drivers on 7.10 I reinstalled 7.04.  I work with 3d graphics and cannot have crashes.  But now I am having difficulty with nvidia on 7.04.  Can anyone help me get the drivers up and running again?
[13:33] <n-iCe> !Broadcom
[13:33] <ubotu> Help with Broadcom bcm43xx can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs/Driver/Broadcom43xx
[13:34] <Schypher_> hi guys
[13:34] <LuteM> OK maybe I need to download the Ubuntu install and try it
[13:34] <TuxIce> LUteM: that would be a good idea
[13:34] <mameman> check for synaptic desert eagle they might have a tool for that
[13:34] <TuxIce> **LuteM:
[13:34] <Vasa> I dont know if its strange, but my CPU could be hot, because my laptops fan runs too high
[13:35] <spe3dy> Vasa, run the top command
[13:35] <n-iCe> how do I install linux-headers-2.6.24-etchnhalf.1-686??
[13:35] <mameman> @vasa u shuld get and external cpu cooler
[13:35] <Vasa> I run
[13:35] <spe3dy> is the cpu maxxed out at 100%?
[13:35] <mameman> wow
[13:35] <Paddy_EIRE> Vasa: have you tried installing "lm-sensors" to see what temperature readings you may be getting before it can be considered a problem?
[13:35] <Vasa> this was the output: Linux hp 2.6.22-14-generic #1 SMP Sun Oct 14 23:05:12 GMT 2007 i686 GNU/L
[13:36] <deserteagle> mameman: synaptic doesn't have a tool
[13:36] <n-iCe> How do I instal the package linux-headers-2.6.24-etchnhalf.1-686
[13:36] <mameman> @deserteagle get some more repos
[13:36] <deserteagle> such as?
[13:36] <mameman> ummm
[13:36] <Paddy_EIRE> deserteagle: have you added yourself to the vmware group
[13:36] <Schypher_> I've got a Dlink G650 pcmcia card, I've installed Madwifi drivers r3306v3. but when I tried to connect to my AP using nm-applet the card seem to be blinking but not connecting. How can I troubleshoot this, where can I find the logs?
[13:36] <tomo28jp> How can I make "Ctrl + M" as an additional enter key?
[13:36] <spe3dy> Vasa, that cant be the output of top
[13:36] <LuteM> TuxIce: do you happen to know if the Via C7 is 32 or 64 bit, am thinking 32
[13:36] <deserteagle> Paddy_EIRE: ?
[13:37] <deserteagle> o_O
[13:37] <mameman> deserteagle try medibuntu or some other ones
[13:37] <TuxIce> LuteM: pretty sure its 32
[13:37] <deserteagle> mameman: thanks
[13:37] <n-iCe> how can I install linux-headers-2.6.24-etchnhalf.1-686 ??? please
[13:37] <deserteagle> :)
[13:37] <LuteM> Yes am thinking that too
[13:37] <Paddy_EIRE> mameman: stop dishing bad advice o_O
[13:38] <LuteM> Xubuntu should be fine shouldn't is as I kind of like the xfce4 desktop
[13:38] <Paddy_EIRE> deserteagle: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/Netboot?action=fullsearch&context=180&value=vmware&titlesearch=Titles
[13:38] <TuxIce> 8.10: Intrepid Ibex
[13:38] <TuxIce> 9.04 Grumpy Groundhog :D
[13:38] <n-iCe> How can I install linux-headers-2.6.24-etchnhalf.1-686 ??????????
[13:38] <mameman> lol
[13:39] <n-iCe> I need it to install some drivers
[13:39] <mameman> n-ice try sudo apt-get install linux-headers......
[13:39] <Starnestommy> n-iCe: are you using the default kernel or one that you compiled yourself?
[13:39] <mameman> thats what i usualy do
[13:39] <TuxIce> LuteM: Xubuntu should work, i remember having no wireless support on xubuntu though.
[13:39] <icesword> `uname -r`
[13:40] <n-iCe> Starnestommy:  the default one
[13:40] <LuteM> Hmm I'll just grab both then and see what happens
[13:40] <b4l74z4r> i installed the "Listen"music player in ubuntu but the next/previous track buttons don't work
[13:40] <TuxIce> LuteM: good idea
[13:40] <Starnestommy> n-iCe: run "sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -a)"
[13:41] <LuteM> thanks for all your help TuxIce will let you know how it turns out
[13:41] <mameman> @b4l74z4r maybe its a bad install reinstall it
[13:41] <Paddy_EIRE> deserteagle: have you found the appropriate wiki page..?
[13:41] <TuxIce> LuteM: no problem
[13:41]  * icesword  thinks it is uname -r
[13:41] <n-iCe> Starnestommy:  says there is no linux-headers-Linux package
[13:42] <icesword> !headers
[13:42] <ubotu> To install the Linux (kernel) headers, open a terminal and: sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r) To install headers for libraries, you need the accompanying -dev packages
[13:42] <Starnestommy> n-iCe: I think I got it wrong.  It should've been "sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r)"
[13:42] <deserteagle> Paddy_EIRE: the vmware server page says i have to make sure my user is part of the "disk" group, can't find such a group though
[13:42] <Paddy_EIRE> deserteagle: one sec
[13:43] <deserteagle> Paddy_EIRE: i added the ability to use tape drives to my user, to see if that helps
[13:43] <naxa> one of my hdds has some bad blocks somewhere on the first 9 gb, so i left it as free space, and the rest works great for ages. but ubuntu always "checks" it at startup, which keeps 150 seconds. can i disable this tryings in the kernel?
[13:43] <Paddy_EIRE> deserteagle: err.. why tape drives
[13:43] <deserteagle> Paddy_EIRE: hell if i know, just poking around :P
[13:43] <TuxIce> deserteagle: O.o
[13:44] <Paddy_EIRE> deserteagle: anyway... try starting that wiki pae from scratch .. as in remove vmware-server completely and start again according to their instructions
[13:44] <b4l74z4r> what's a bad install, wouldn't it be a bad install next time if i do exactly the same steps to install it
[13:44] <Paddy_EIRE> *page
[13:44] <b4l74z4r> ?
[13:44] <gearfox> I manually installed nvidia drivers and also tried with the nvidia-glx package.  neither is working
[13:44] <n-iCe> Starnestommy:  says there is no  linux-headers-2.6.24-etchnhalf.1-686
[13:44] <n-iCe> says no package
[13:44] <TuxIce> b4l74z4: Not neccesarily
[13:45] <spe3dy> deserteagle,  more /etc/group
[13:45] <spe3dy> disk should be in that list
[13:45] <b4l74z4r> TuxIce, why not?
[13:45] <deserteagle> more /etc/group
[13:45] <icesword> n-iCe, sudo apt-get install linux-headers-`uname -r`, what about this
[13:46] <spas19> naxa, try looking in fstab manual
[13:46] <deserteagle> >_< stupid tilda doesn't grab key focus
[13:46] <naxa> at bootup the kernel tries to read the first blocks after mbr on one of my hdds by default, what keeps 150 secs. i am aware that these blocks are io error, but the rest of the hdd works for ages for me like this. can i reduce the number retries to make ubuntu bootup faster
[13:46] <naxa> spas19, are you sure that this is fstab? i think this is made by the kernel. there is no partition
[13:46] <n-iCe> Starnestommy: ???
[13:46] <n-iCe> how can I install this package??? linux-headers-2.6.24-etchnhalf.1-686
[13:46] <spas19> naxa talking about fsck checks?
[13:47] <spas19> i see
[13:47] <JarG0n> how do I kill a process that will not go away with $ kill PID ?
[13:47] <arcsky> I just did apt-get install php5, do i have to do anymore for get php5 working with apache2 ?
[13:47] <Starnestommy> n-iCe: that package doesn't exist.  Are you sure that you're using the default kernel and that it's actually ubuntu?
[13:47] <icesword> !info linux-headers-2.6.24*
[13:47] <ubotu> Package linux-headers-2.6.24 does not exist in gutsy
[13:47] <naxa> spas19, not really. i think the kernel tries to recognize whats on the disk by default, maybe this is why no correct bios settings needed for linux
[13:47] <n-iCe> Starnestommy:  yes
[13:47] <Starnestommy> JarG0n: kill -9 PID
[13:47] <n-iCe> :/
[13:47] <icesword> !info linux-headers-2.6.24* hardy
[13:47] <naxa> spas19, this is before the init starts
[13:47] <ubotu> Package linux-headers-2.6.24 does not exist in hardy
[13:47] <n-iCe> Starnestommy:  what else can I do??
[13:47] <spas19> i see... dunno then
[13:48] <Starnestommy> n-iCe: which version of ubuntu is it?
[13:48] <n-iCe> 7.10
[13:48] <JarG0n> Starnestommy>  That worked.  What does that do differently?
[13:48] <TuxIce> b4l74z4r: the first install could have been a repo down or there server was doing updates or that (and dont quote me on the last one) your CPU wasnt going through the install smoothly and it was all choppy
[13:48] <Starnestommy> JarG0n: it sends SIGKILL instead of the default SIGTERM.  Unlike SIGTERM, SIGKILL cannot be ignored except by init and some core processes
[13:49] <spas19> naxa, have u checked logs, do they print anything wierd?
[13:49] <JarG0n> Starnestommy>  Cool, thanks ! :)
[13:49] <n-iCe> any idea Starnestommy
[13:50] <naxa> spas19, i dont know where are the logs but i start without flash and without quiet mode so i see whats going on. there is many io error messages on that hdd, and after ~120 secs, it gives up and the system starts.
[13:50] <naxa> flash=splash
[13:50] <naxa> sorry
[13:50] <spas19> naxa, /var/log/kern.log
[13:51] <onca> just dropped in to show my appreciation, UBUNTU works excellently.
[13:51] <spe3dy> lol
[13:51] <spas19> :)
[13:52] <naxa> spas19, sd 0:0:1:0: [sda] Sense Key : Medium Error [current] [descriptor]
[13:52] <naxa>  for example
[13:52] <|Debian|> i've been compiling wine from source ... done .. ./configure ... make depend ... then make and now i have an error .. make[2]: *** [port.o] Error 1
[13:52] <|Debian|> make[2]: Leaving directory `/home/debian/Desktop/wine/libs/wine'
[13:52] <naxa> spas19,  ata1.01: exception Emask 0x0 SAct 0x0 SErr 0x0 action 0x0
[13:52] <Schypher_> hi, when i do iwconfig, it desplay ath0 as the wireless interface, but when in ifconfig, it display wifi0 and ath0 as wireless interface.... can you tell me why ?
[13:53] <n-iCe> how can I Install 2.6.24-etchnhalf.1-686 ???
[13:53] <Schypher_> why is there an extra wifi0 interface?
[13:53] <spe3dy> Schypher_,  its normal
[13:53] <Creationist> I'm compiling something from source and it's saying that I need the gtk2.0 libraries.  I've searched the repos for any gtk2 stuff, and can't find it.  What do I need?
[13:53] <spe3dy> atho is the physical device, wifi0 is sort of a marker for that device
[13:53] <Paddy_EIRE> Schypher_: spies
[13:53] <spe3dy> no need to worry about it, its normal
[13:53] <gearfox> after installing binary nvidia drivers how is it possible to try the nvidia-glx package
[13:53] <mattywarr> Hi - is there a way to install java using apt-get?
[13:53] <Schypher_> Paddy_EIRE, does nm-applet knows which if to connect from ?
[13:53] <n-iCe> nobody???
[13:53] <spe3dy> mattywarr,  you can use the add/remove app gui
[13:54] <berent> is there any mxml editor in ubuntu world
[13:54] <Paddy_EIRE> !java | mattywarr
[13:54] <ubotu> mattywarr: To install a Java runtime/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java6-jre from the !Multiverse repository (in !Backports for !Edgy)
[13:54] <Paddy_EIRE> Schypher_: I was kidding :P
[13:54] <jelle> sudo apt-cache search java
[13:54] <Schypher_> spe3dy does nm-applet knows which if to connect from ?
[13:54] <jelle> and then just sudo apt-get install you package
[13:54] <spe3dy> sch technically they are both the same, so yes it does
[13:54] <spe3dy> Schypher_, ^^
[13:55] <mattywarr> hmm - can't seem to find it in add/remove
[13:55] <spe3dy> mattywarr,  in the drop down menuy
[13:55] <Schypher_> spe3dy, ?? I am trying to trouble my card, and don't know where the problem lies
[13:55] <naxa> spas19, can i upload the log somewhere?
[13:55] <spe3dy> select, "all available applications
[13:55] <Schypher_> spe3dy, can you help me?
[13:55] <spe3dy> Schypher_,  sure
[13:55] <liquidsilver> !peak
[13:55] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about peak - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[13:55] <mattywarr> aha! Thanks :)
[13:55] <berent> !mxml
[13:55] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mxml - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[13:55] <spas19> check paste section in topic
[13:55] <berent> !flash
[13:55] <ubotu> To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash (for !Dapper and !Edgy, a recent version is available in !backports) - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[13:56] <spe3dy> mattywarr, select "all available applications" then search for java
[13:56] <TuxIce> !conky
[13:56] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about conky - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[13:56] <spas19> naxa, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[13:56] <berent> !flex
[13:56] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about flex - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[13:56] <spas19> !sex ?
[13:56] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sex ? - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[13:56] <spas19> ;/
[13:56] <schnootop> hello i am trying to partition ubuntu so i can install it on a laptop. i know i have to setup a swap and a ext3. But when i set up one or the other if wont let me setup the last one as it says unallocated space and has no new partition button
[13:56] <Schypher_> spe3dy, do you have any experience in PCMCIA cards/wifi and madwifi drivers?
[13:57] <spe3dy> Schypher_,  yes, alot of experience
[13:57] <naxa> spas19, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/63827/
[13:57] <|Debian|> berent .. apt-get install flex
[13:57] <|Debian|> i just needed that =)
[13:57] <Scunizi> schnootop, how many partitions are you trying to make?
[13:57] <Schypher_> spe3dy, where can I find the logs ?
[13:57] <spe3dy> Schypher_, /var/logs
[13:57] <Schypher_> spe3dy, :D
[13:57] <spe3dy> /var/log
[13:57] <berent> |Debian|  : i am talking about adobe flex
[13:57] <incorrect> what ftpd server is best to use these days?
[13:58] <Schypher_> spe3dy, I mean't nm-applet logs
[13:58] <schnootop> Scunizi, there is 3 already on there and i need to create the / and swap
[13:58] <spas19> naxa, dunno how to skip the those kern checks
[13:58] <icesword> !ftpserver
[13:58] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ftpserver - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[13:58] <sanclio> www.ubuntu.it
[13:58] <Scunizi> schnootop, are the other 3 linux related or windows?
[13:58] <icesword> !ftpd
[13:58] <ubotu> FTP servers: ftpd, proftpd, pure-ftpd, twoftpd, vsftpd, MuddleFTPd, wzdftpd - Graphical front-ends: PureAdmin, GProftpd (for GNOME), KcmPureftpd (for !KDE) - See also !FTP
[13:58] <spe3dy> Schypher_,  why would you need them, what is your problem?
[13:58] <schnootop> Scunizi, windows so i cant touch them
[13:59] <|Debian|> i've been compiling wine from source ... done .. ./configure ... make depend ... then make and now i have an error .. make[2]: *** [port.o] Error 1
[13:59] <|Debian|> make[2]: Leaving directory `/home/debian/Desktop/wine/libs/wine'
[13:59] <schnootop> Scunizi, any idea what i can do ?
[13:59] <Scunizi> schnootop, ok.. the forth partition on the drive should be and extended partition.
[14:00] <Schypher_> spe3dy, well I have a Dlink G650 card, installed patched madwifi module successfully, card loads.... but nm-applet doesn't seem to be interacting with it... tried to connect to AP..... not getting any response... I could sniff for AP..
[14:00] <Starnestommy> |Debian|: what's the entire output of make?
[14:00] <naxa> spas19, np, thanks!
[14:00] <spe3dy> Schypher_,  generally dlink cards work out of the box
[14:00] <Scunizi> schnootop, inside of the exteded partition you'll be able to create / & /home & /swap
[14:00] <kaur> I am trying to compile a perl module and get Can't locate Inline/MakeMaker.pm. What should i do?
[14:00] <naxa> can someone help me how to skip the kernel checks seen at the top of this: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/63829/
[14:00] <TuxIce> I find atheros works good too.
[14:01] <TuxIce> naxa: Did you try GOOGLE
[14:01] <Schypher_> spe3dy, yes, I am surprised why this didn't work out of the box... maybe a driver conflict?
[14:01] <schnootop> when you say extended do you mean use as ext3 ? or what should i set that as ?
[14:01] <TuxIce> **google
[14:01] <spe3dy> deffinatly
[14:01] <naxa> TuxIce, i don't know what to search for
[14:01] <naxa> this is why i ask
[14:01] <spe3dy> you in fesity or gutsy?
[14:01] <naxa> i don't know what causes this
[14:01] <spe3dy> *feisty
[14:01] <Schypher_> spe3dy, before I installed the madwifi drivers, I plugged the card in, ubuntu did not pick it up
[14:01] <Scunizi> schnootop, if you hadn't thought of it yet, do yourself a favor and create a separate partition for /home.. so root or / should be 10gigs...... swap /swap no more than 1 gig and the rest for /home..
[14:02] <TuxIce> naxa: youre problem is that you have 9gb of bad sectors right?
[14:02] <Starnestommy> kaur: run "sudo cpan install Inline::MakeMaker" to install that missing module
[14:02] <erUSUL> naxa: medium errors == dying disk
[14:02] <TuxIce> and you need the kernel to skip checks of that first partition
[14:02] <TuxIce> naxa: am i right , or am i confusing u and someone else?
[14:02] <Schypher_> spe3dy, the strange thing is after I installed the patched madwifi drivers, I was able to do airmon, airodump-ng to sniff APs
[14:02] <spe3dy> yeah that is weird
[14:02] <kaur> Starnestommy, Thanks, I'll try
[14:03] <naxa> TuxIce, i am
[14:03] <himijendrix> i try to add applets to awn but there are none in the awn manger. am i supposed to download them somewhere?
[14:03] <spe3dy> go into the config of the applet and manually feed it the location of your hardware
[14:03] <Scunizi> schnootop, an extended partition just set the remaining space aside and allows you to create partition of a particular format of your choice... they are not "primary" partitions.  You can only have 4 primary partitions on a drive..
[14:03] <schnootop> Scunizi, i only have 14gb to play with but i still dont know how to create more than 1 partition :
[14:03] <berent> is there any mxml editor in ubuntu world
[14:03] <Schypher_> spe3dy, I'll try that suggestion
[14:03] <naxa> erUSUL, i know, the fisrt part of the hdd has bad blocks but the second half works for years for me, i want to disable the checking
[14:03] <bazhang> himijendrix: have you read the awn docs/faq yet?
[14:03] <yoursfaithfully> I have a minor directory question - I just downloaded some libraries for Octave (a pretty big folder-full), and I was wondering if anyone had a suggestion for where to store it in my directory structure
[14:04] <TuxIce> naxa: what kernel are you using?
[14:04] <schnootop> how do i actually create this 'extended' partition
[14:04] <Schypher_> spe3dy, where is the nm-applet conf file ? not in /etc is it?
[14:04] <TuxIce> Ubuntu 9.10 Furrocious Ferret :D LOL
[14:04] <naxa> 2.6.22-14-generic
[14:04] <naxa> TuxIce, 2.6.22-14-generic
[14:04] <joeamined> hi
[14:04] <joeamined> how to change my account locale please ?
[14:05] <TuxIce> naxa : google - skip check of first partition with 2.6.22-14-generic kernel
[14:05] <himijendrix> bazhang, erm..didnt think of that...reading
[14:05] <Scunizi> schnootop, with 14gigs.. don't create a separate /home.. and swap should be about 512 mb.. while using the installer you should be able to choose manual and in there can create the logical or exteneded partition and the new ones you need to install inside of that
[14:05] <naxa> TuxIce, i will try
[14:05] <TuxIce> Ha i have a 4 gb swap partition
[14:05] <TuxIce> LOL
[14:06] <ikonia> TuxIce: why is that funny ?
[14:06] <TuxIce> naxa: tell me your findings
[14:06] <spe3dy> Schypher_,  it has a gui if you right click it
[14:06] <naxa> TuxIce, no luck for me
[14:06] <spas19> everyone has a fetish :)
[14:06] <TuxIce> ikonia: i think it is considering i only have 512mb of ram
[14:06] <naxa> TuxIce, they are irrelevant
[14:06] <TuxIce> its like revers
[14:06] <TuxIce> e
[14:06] <TuxIce> naxa: one sec ill try
[14:06] <naxa> TuxIce, ok
[14:06] <schnootop> ok i know how to do that, but when i click on logical. assign 14gb to that. What do i set the Use as 'as'. is it dont_use or ext3 or what ?
[14:06] <ikonia> TuxIce: not really, a large swap partition is a sensible way of countering low ram like 512mb
[14:07] <spas19> ikonia, a slow one...
[14:07] <ikonia> spas19: pardon ?
[14:07] <spas19> slow way :)
[14:07] <spe3dy> system>administration>network tools  > Schypher_  look in there too
[14:08] <Scunizi> schnootop, when you select logical it won't give you the option of choosing anything.. logical is like giving the remaining space on the harddrive a name called "logical" and then allowing you to partition that space as needed
[14:09] <joeamined> please how to change a user's locale in gnome ?
[14:09] <TuxIce> naxa: google this - how to: skip checking of a partition in linux
[14:09] <naxa> TuxIce, ok
[14:09] <jaffarkelshac> what do you mean locale, joeamined be a little specific
[14:09] <Pion33R> Hi !
[14:09] <Pion33R> :)
[14:09] <Schypher_> spe3dy, it says unknown ath interface.. is that correct?
[14:09] <TuxIce> Pion33R: Hi
[14:10] <in4mer> hello
[14:10] <Schypher_> spe3dy, it says unknown interface (ath0).. is that correct?
[14:10] <joeamined> jaffarlelshac: i'm having english_ca and i want to change it to en_US
[14:10] <TuxIce> spe3dy: do you have an atheros wireless card?
[14:10] <Schypher_> TuxIce, I do and i am having problem with it :D
[14:10] <joeamined> I changed the default locale to EN_US, but I'd like to change it in my current account
[14:10] <Schypher_> TuxIce, what's wrong with your card?
[14:11] <Scunizi> schnootop, do you get it?
[14:11] <spe3dy> TuxIce,  i do on one of my laptops
[14:11] <schnootop> not quite, i set up a logical (but it still gives me all those options) then once i created the logical i clicked on the partition again and it wouldnt allow me to create new ones within it :\
[14:11] <spe3dy> Schypher_,  it shouldnt be unknown
[14:11] <naxa> TuxIce, do you think that ide=nodma would solve this?
[14:11] <TuxIce> Schypher_: my card worked automatically
[14:11] <TuxIce> spe3dy: does it work?
[14:12] <spe3dy> TuxIce,  yes
[14:12] <jaffarkelshac> to change time zone if i have it right, just right click time and pick ajust time and date
[14:12] <TuxIce> Schypher_: the interface should be ath0
[14:12] <spe3dy> i installed the atheros -ng drivers
[14:12] <TuxIce> Schypher_: not just ath
[14:12] <spe3dy> and it worked
[14:12] <TuxIce> spe3dy: mine worked and connected to our dualband DIR-615 router automatically
[14:13] <TuxIce> naxa: ill find out
[14:13] <naxa> TuxIce, thanks but maybe its enough if i try isnt it?
[14:13] <Schypher_> TuxIce, it is ath0. but it didn't work automatically for me and I am using ubuntu 8.0.24, kern, <IP_ADDRESS>-i386
[14:13] <TuxIce> naxa: i think it should work
[14:13] <spe3dy> TuxIce,  my atheros card is on slackware, which doesnt do anything automatically
[14:14] <naxa> TuxIce, I'll be back in a few minutes, please wait for me, i go and try! thanks for the help!
[14:14] <Scunizi> schnootop, well... since a harddrive can only be partitioned 4 times with primary partitions, "logical" is away of extending that beyond 4 partitions.  creating a logical partition shouldn't give you any options for formatting or assignment.. are  you using the alternate cd?
[14:14] <TuxIce> naxa: np
[14:14] <Schypher_> TuxIce, I always thought if I plugged the card in and dont need to restart, the drivers should load automatically, maybe I need to check the blacklist
[14:14] <TuxIce> spe3dy: good pont
[14:14] <TuxIce> Schypher_: possibly
[14:14] <schnootop> im using the legit ubuntu 7.10 cd
[14:14] <TuxIce> Schypher_: does it work on gutsy?
[14:14] <Schypher_> never tried
[14:15] <spe3dy> Schypher_,  you need to restart after you plug the card in
[14:15] <TuxIce> Schypher_: give that a try first.
[14:15] <TuxIce> Schypher_: dont forget to back up!
[14:15] <spe3dy> ubuntu should automatically work with dlink, assuming your using gutsy
[14:15] <TuxIce> Schypher_: but yes do try the blacklist
[14:15] <Schypher_> spe3dy, I thought the modules are loaded during bootup for atheros cards...
[14:15] <spe3dy> they are
[14:15] <spe3dy> thats why you need to re-start
[14:15] <spe3dy> so they can detect any hardware changes
[14:15] <wigren> i just updated to 8.04rc and i have and the only problem so far is when i restart or even log out and back in my screen brightness on my laptop goes to the darkest setting. i have to use the Function button to reset it. any ideas on how to stop this?
[14:16] <spe3dy> wigren,  this isnt beta support
[14:16] <Schypher_> spe3dy, ahh, hmm looks like uninstalled the modules I compiled would be hard :/
[14:16] <CP2> Hello, is a PPPoE GUI client been added to 8.04? Or is it necessary to use pppoeconf like in 10.06? thanks
[14:16] <Paddy_EIRE> !ubuntu+1 | wigren
[14:16] <wigren> spe3dy: ok sorry
[14:16] <ubotu> wigren: Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 24, 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - CONSIDER IT TO BE BETA SOFTWARE - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[14:16] <Scunizi> schnootop, even the alternate is ligit.. just for different uses.. you might consider downloading and burning the iso for Gparted Live cd.  It is a partitioning utility that might be easier to use to finish the partitioning sceme on the drive and then have ubuntu install to that... unless someone else here has any other guideance..
[14:16] <schnootop> Scunizi, do you know if there is a graphical example of what you want me to do ?
[14:16] <TuxIce> Schypher_: i dont think you need to restart, just restart X - ctrl>alt>bkspace
[14:17] <schnootop> if i wanted to google it, what would i most likely search for ?
[14:17] <TuxIce> !Intrepid Ibex
[14:17] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about intrepid ibex - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[14:17] <tomolds> Anyone use Pidgin, how can I dock the contact list?
[14:17] <Scunizi> !partition | schnootop
[14:17] <ubotu> schnootop: Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in !GNOME under !Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For !Edgy and later, see !fstab and !DiskMounter
[14:17] <TuxIce> tomolds: im using pidgin right now - have you tried googleing it?
[14:18] <ubuser> hi all
[14:18] <ubuser> who can tell me a player to play mms streams^
[14:18] <ubuser> ?
[14:18] <tomolds> TuxIce: Sure I have but the plugin people talk of doesn't appear in my list.
[14:18] <tomolds> TuxIce: btw so am I using it right now, did you read my question?
[14:18] <Starnestommy> ubuser: I think vlc can
[14:18] <freewilly> bmpx mb
[14:18] <eps> what is the rdp gui client that ubuntu ships with, I don't have it installed and I can't remember the name?>
[14:18] <eps> !rdp
[14:18] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about rdp - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[14:19] <eps> !remote
[14:19] <Scunizi> schnootop, http://www.pcworld.com/article/id,73826/article.html
[14:19] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about remote - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[14:19] <Paddy_EIRE> !multimedia | ubuser
[14:19] <ubotu> ubuser: Ubuntu 7.04 installs multimedia codecs automatically. For older versions of Ubuntu, or if you can't use the automatic installer, see https://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - For multimedia applications, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MultimediaApplications
[14:19] <ubuser> Starnestommy: im using vlc but the quality is low
[14:19] <TuxIce> tomolds: how to dock the contact list, im not exactly sure?
[14:19] <schnootop> yeah gparted kind of isnt an option atm, as my connection is abit flakey lately
[14:19] <freewilly> audacious
[14:19] <eps> ubuser, vlc plays what is there, the quality is just best quality the file allows
[14:19] <tomolds> TuxIce: It seems no one is :-)
[14:19] <Scunizi> !who | schnootop
[14:19] <ubotu> schnootop: As you can see, this is a large channel. If you're speaking to someone in particular, please put their nickname in what you say (use !tab), or else messages get lost and it becomes confusing :)
[14:19] <Jowi> eps: tsclient?
[14:19] <naxa> TuxIce, no luck but thank you for help! i have to go now. bye!
[14:19] <TuxIce> tomolds: sorry dude
[14:20] <cratel> how can I customize the gtk+ theme?
[14:20] <schnootop> Scunizi, yeah gparted kind of isnt an option atm, as my connection is abit flakey lately **
[14:20] <tomolds> TuxIce: np my quest continues.
[14:20] <ubuser> eps is not so cuz i played the same stream on windows vlc and the quality was different (better)
[14:20] <TuxIce> naxa: try linux ide=nodma
[14:20] <eps> thanks Jowi, sounds right
[14:20] <TuxIce> !pidgin
[14:20] <ubotu> The Instant Messenger Client Pidgin (formerly Gaim) (http://help.ubuntu.com/community/GaimHowto) supports MSN, Jabber, AIM, Gadu-Gadu, Novell Groupwise, ICQ and IRC. See also !Kopete
[14:20] <TuxIce> !kopete
[14:20] <ubotu> Instant Messenger Client Kopete (http://kopete.kde.org) is supporting MSN, Jabber, AIM, Gadu-Gadu, Novell Groupwise, ICQ and IRC. See also !Pidgin
[14:20] <eps> ubuser, I highly doubt it, you get the same client (code wise) for windows and linux and osx and solaris and everything else
[14:21] <Enfermo32> hola
[14:21] <Scunizi> schnootop, although configured a little different it's the same partitioner that is used in ubuntu install..  just looks different.  did you look at the link I posted for you?
[14:21] <ffm> Is there a step missing in https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Router ?
[14:21] <TuxIce> !ompaul
[14:21] <ubotu> ompaul is well ompaul, don't get me started about that guy
[14:21] <ffm> Like setting up a dhcp server?
[14:21] <TuxIce> !PriceChild
[14:21] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pricechild - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[14:21] <Jowi> cratel: copy the theme to your ~/.themes directory and then modify ~/.themes/mytheme/gtk-2.0/gtkrc. There is no theme editor.
[14:22] <TuxIce> ANyone have any idea about ubuntu mobile
[14:22] <TuxIce> ?
[14:22] <Stroganoff> put it on a laptop.
[14:22] <Paddy_EIRE> ffm: have you seen this text "This is where the new Ubuntu Router page is in development" at the top of that wiki
[14:22] <ikonia> !offtopic >tuxice
[14:22] <ubuser> eps try to load this mms://infrontsp-DE-06-S02.wm.llnwd.net/infrontsp_DE_08_S02?MSWMExt=.asf ... how do you see it?
[14:22] <TuxIce> ikonia: srry wrong channel
[14:22] <ikonia> TuxIce: no problem
[14:22] <schnootop> Scunizi, i am looking at it now. Aswell as i also have GParted on this CD
[14:22] <ffm> Paddy_EIRE: Ah.
[14:23] <ffm> Paddy_EIRE: That would be a problem, now wouldn't it.
[14:23]  * ffm follows old guide
[14:23] <Paddy_EIRE> ffm: hardly a problem if they are improving the page/article
[14:23] <Scunizi> schnootop, if you can access the graphical gparted program on the live cd that might be easier..
[14:23] <ffm> Paddy_EIRE: It isn't complete.
[14:23] <Paddy_EIRE> ffm: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuWirelessRouter/New
[14:24] <ffm> Paddy_EIRE: Mhm. I'm going to follow https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuWirelessRouter
[14:24] <Schypher_> TuxIce, what card do you have ?
[14:24] <eps> ubuser, looks fine to me
[14:24] <Schypher_> TuxIce, wireless card is what I meant
[14:25] <eps> looks high quality in mplayer and vlc (vlc has no sound and no time line though)
[14:25] <schnootop> Scunizi, yeah im in it now
[14:25] <eps> ubuser, try mplayer instead of vlc, it seems to work better
[14:25] <ColdBeer> has anyone been able to instal cairo dock on ubuntu?
[14:26] <TuxIce> Schypher_: i have a todhiba A100 sattelite, without compiz :(, and an Atheros card (whatever one is default)
[14:26] <TuxIce> **toshiba
[14:26] <bachelorboy> hi guys! does anybody know about any good performance/optimization tools for Ubuntu 7.10?
[14:26] <spe3dy> bachelorboy,  what do you want to optimise?
[14:26] <ikonia> bachelorboy: do the basics, shutdown unused services,
[14:26] <ColdBeer> whats the command line to install kubuntu?
[14:26] <TuxIce> bachelorboy: like msconfig?
[14:27] <ikonia> ColdBeer: apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[14:27] <spe3dy> ColdBeer, what do you mean?
[14:27] <Jowi> bachelorboy: for lowmem machine, switch to a lighter Window Manager / Desktop Environment.
[14:27] <TuxIce> COldBeer: do you mean the kde desktop
[14:27] <ColdBeer> thanks ikonia
[14:27] <VoidedCheck> sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[14:27] <bachelorboy> lately I have noticed increased boot time when loading Java apps (especially Eclipse) with Sun JDK 1.6
[14:27] <VoidedCheck> damn too slow
[14:27] <spe3dy> ahh you mean to install KDE
[14:27] <Paddy_EIRE> spe3dy: no he meant kubuntu
[14:27] <TuxIce> ikonia: sudo aptitude install kubuntu-desktop is better
[14:27] <Paddy_EIRE> ;)
[14:27] <spe3dy> ?
[14:27] <ikonia> TuxIce: not if he's not using kubuntu alread
[14:27] <ikonia> already
[14:27] <spe3dy> bachelorboy,  how can a desktop app make your boot time increase?
[14:27] <VoidedCheck> there's no real difference between aptitude and apt-get
[14:27] <TuxIce> ColdBeer: sudo aptitude install kubuntu-desktop
[14:28] <deserteagle> hello again, in order to add my user to a certain group i do what in command line?
[14:28] <ColdBeer> ikonia, have u installed cairo dock?
[14:28] <deserteagle> chgroup?
[14:28] <ikonia> ColdBeer: no
[14:28] <himijendrix> i want to use non-awn icons for awn, in the FAQ it says "It'd be much easier changing the .xpm in /usr/share/pixmaps if you want a different icon" .what does it mean?
[14:28] <ColdBeer> has anyone had success with cairo dock on ubuntu?
[14:28] <ikonia> ColdBeer: many people have
[14:28] <Paddy_EIRE> !repeat | ColdBeer
[14:28] <ubotu> ColdBeer: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[14:28] <spe3dy> ColdBeer,  i have
[14:28] <Orbixx> Two things. Firestarter is failing to start correctly and causing my network to hang until I stop and restart it. Secondly, I have a wifi connection that works, and is manually set, but each time I restart, I have to edit it and input the WPA key in again to reconnect.
[14:28] <TuxIce> ikonia: ohhhhhh i thought he was having X troubles (srry)
[14:28] <ikonia> ColdBeer: it's reasonable popular
[14:28] <spe3dy> although it gets annoying ColdBeer
[14:28] <jrib> deserteagle: you don't need the command line.  You can use System -> Administration -> Users and Groups.  Commandline is 'sudo adduser USER GROUP'
[14:28] <ColdBeer> spe3dy
[14:28] <ColdBeer> why annoting?
[14:28] <spe3dy> cairo-dock
[14:29] <spe3dy> its annoying to have some bullshit at the bottom of your screen
[14:29] <ColdBeer> yes
[14:29] <TuxIce> COldBeer: do you have compiz (i take it no)
[14:29] <Orbixx> spe3dy: Watch the language.
[14:29] <ikonia> spe3dy: careful ont he lagnague
[14:29] <richard> why i cannot use ubunto after of install mandriva
[14:29] <ColdBeer> i have compiz
[14:29] <richard> ????????????
[14:29] <deserteagle> thank you jrib! i forgot about the command adduser :P
[14:29] <TuxIce> !language | speedy
[14:29] <ColdBeer> tuxIce i have compiz why?
[14:29] <ubotu> speedy: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[14:29] <spe3dy> without compiz cairo-dock is quite ugly
[14:29] <richard> help me
[14:29] <ikonia> richard: what is the problem ?
[14:29] <TuxIce> ColdBeer: then use AWN its much better
[14:30] <richard> help me -->  why I cannot use ubuntu after of install mandriva
[14:30] <spe3dy> deserteagle, do you want the group to be the primary group or not?
[14:30] <Paddy_EIRE> richard: was that english o_O
[14:30] <ikonia> richard: because you have done one of the following things 1.) updated your grub boot sector to read frmo the menu.lst from mandrva, or deleted your shared /boot sectors contents of anything to do with ubuntu
[14:30] <Orbixx> richard: You need to reconfigure grub.
[14:30] <richard> i'm peruvian
[14:30] <Jowi> richard: my guess is that mandriva replaced GRUB.
[14:30] <ColdBeer> hey i need someone smart for this one, i want to run "talk" from the terminal, i installed talk, and now it says no talk damon running, how do i start the talk damon?
[14:30] <spe3dy> richard,  did mandriva overwrite your grub and not add ubuntu to it?
[14:31] <deserteagle> spe3dy: o.O?
[14:31] <ColdBeer> /etc/init.d/talk start?
[14:31] <TuxIce> richard: could be that your not using ubuntu or that its not installed , what aare you talking about??????
[14:31] <|Debian|> i've been compiling wine from source ... done .. ./configure ... make depend ... then make and now i have an error .. make[2]: *** [port.o] Error 1
[14:31] <ColdBeer> doesnt work
[14:31] <Paddy_EIRE> !grub | richard
[14:31] <|Debian|> make[2]: Leaving directory `/home/debian/Desktop/wine/libs/wine'
[14:31] <bachelorboy> spe3dy, sorry my mistake... I meant the boot-up time of Java apps in specific
[14:31] <ubotu> richard: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[14:31] <ikonia> ColdBeer: it's normally lanuched from inetd/xinetd
[14:31] <richard> for this my english isn't well
[14:31] <spe3dy> bachelorboy,  yeah, i've noticed that too, i think its a java specific issue
[14:31] <jrib> |Debian|: why?  wine is in the repositories
[14:31] <Scunizi> richard, spanish?
[14:31] <VoidedCheck> sounds like a dependancey problem
[14:31] <|Debian|> jrib ... it's not
[14:31] <richard> yes
[14:31] <|Debian|> i've looked
[14:31] <jrib> !info wine | |Debian|
[14:31] <richard> yo hablo español
[14:31] <|Dede|> I need help: I cannot get Direct rendering to work "direct rendering: No (LIBGL_ALWAYS_INDIRECT set)"
[14:31] <ubotu> |debian|: wine (source: wine): Microsoft Windows Compatibility Layer (Binary Emulator and Library). In component universe, is optional. Version 0.9.46-0ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 33097 kB, installed size 103228 kB
[14:31] <ikonia> !es > richard
[14:31] <richard> pero creo q aca nadie habla español
[14:32] <Orbixx> richard: Join #ubuntu-es
[14:32] <pjv> is it possible for my wifi adapter to have aliases? I currently have a laptop with wifi, when i go to work i have to reconfigure it to be on dynamic, but when i take it home i have to reconfigure it again for a static IP
[14:32] <jrib> |Debian|: have you enabled the universe repository?
[14:32] <ColdBeer> ikonia -- u there?
[14:32] <ikonia> ColdBeer: yes ~I am
[14:32] <richard> es por eso q me esfuerzo por eplicar de la major manera posible mi probñlema
[14:32] <ColdBeer> how do i launch talk damon?
[14:32] <|Debian|> jrib.. i don't know how to do that
[14:32] <Scunizi> !es | richard
[14:32] <jrib> !es | richard
[14:32] <ubotu> richard: Aquí solamente hablamos inglés. Para Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es - allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[14:32] <jrib> !universe > |Debian| (read the private message from ubotu)
[14:32] <ikonia> ColdBeer: I've just told you, it's normally confiugred to launch from xinetd/inetd ?
[14:32] <richard> gracias en serio
[14:32] <VoidedCheck> system -> administration -> sources, enable universe
[14:32] <bachelorboy> spe3dy, u know, I'm saying that because I make comparisons with colleagues Ubuntu boxes (that have less apps installed) and there is a huge difference in start-up time
[14:32] <Macen> what's the yum/up2date command on mac?
[14:32] <ColdBeer> ikonia, ok so how do i start it, do i go look for it in there?
[14:33] <Macen> s/mac/debain
[14:33] <TuxIce> bachelorboy: Sytem>Preferences>Sessions
[14:33] <richard> thank you ikonia
[14:33] <Orbixx> bachelorboy: The only difference that apps would make would be the ones that have to start up when the computer starts up.
[14:33] <deserteagle> did i miss something?
[14:33] <richard> see yo
[14:33] <ikonia> ColdBeer: well, 1.) see if it's installed 2.) see if your using inetd/xinetd 3.) see if inetd/xinetd is configured to luanch it 4.)  make sure inetd/xinetd is running
[14:33] <richard> seeee oyu
[14:33] <Starnestommy> Macen: it's aptitude or apt-get
[14:33] <spe3dy> bachelorboy,  that's quite strange and I don't think I could suggest anything, as you know there are many variables with issues like this, but i have noticed the latest stable versions of java are slower
[14:33] <TuxIce> bachelorboy: you can control startup programs and services
[14:33] <|Dede|> I need help: I cannot get Direct rendering to work "direct rendering: No (LIBGL_ALWAYS_INDIRECT set)"
[14:33] <Scunizi> richard  see you
[14:33] <deserteagle> i did everything i was supposed to, yet i still can't run winxp inside ubuntu on vmware server :(
[14:33] <|Debian|> jrib wouldn't it all be setup automatically
[14:34] <jrib> |Debian|: universe and multiverse are not enabled by default
[14:34] <Paddy_EIRE> deserteagle: virtual box is much better anyway :P
[14:34] <Macen> hm seems mac's have their own command, don't s'pose anyone knows what it is?i want to install lynx from a repo
[14:34] <bachelorboy> TuxIce, Orbixx, thanx for the advice.  I'll try to play a bit with the services stuff
[14:34] <deserteagle> Paddy_EIRE: hello again! :D
[14:34] <ColdBeer> ikonia, how can i see if its installed?
[14:34] <TuxIce> bachelorboy: no problem
[14:34] <ikonia> ColdBeer: use the package manager
[14:34] <deserteagle> Paddy_EIRE: i actually installed it but don't know how to setup a vm
[14:34] <Scunizi> deserteagle, are you running vmware from a repository install? or did you download it from vmware directly?
[14:34] <spe3dy> bachelorboy,  services wont in anyway make a differnce in the time it takes to launch java apps
[14:34] <ColdBeer> ikonia, the gui?
[14:34] <deserteagle> Scunizi: tarball install :S
[14:34] <ikonia> ColdBeer: , no the package manager, what ever tool you feel appropriate
[14:35] <Jockeo> How do I "print screen" into memory instead of file?
[14:35] <TuxIce> !synaptic
[14:35] <ubotu> synaptic is Ubuntu's Graphical Package Manager. For a good howto see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticHowto
[14:35] <Scunizi> deserteagle, and where are  you getting stuck on the xp install?
[14:35] <TuxIce> !synaptic | ColdBeer
[14:35] <ubotu> ColdBeer: please see above
[14:35] <|Dede|> I need help: I cannot get Direct rendering to work "direct rendering: No (LIBGL_ALWAYS_INDIRECT set)"
[14:35] <Paddy_EIRE> deserteagle: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=183209
[14:35] <deserteagle> Scunizi: it just says there is not bootable OS, CDROM or floppy
[14:35] <ColdBeer> ikonia, like apt-get?
[14:35] <FluxD> Hi, can someone tell me how to change window manager everytime I login I have to do metacity --replace but it resets back to no windows on login again
[14:35] <Paddy_EIRE> deserteagle: its really quite straight forward
[14:35] <bachelorboy> spe3dy, I know that, but I'll give it a go anyway.  Do u think that maybe the machine can get a bit confused with other installed Java runtimes (even though I have selected Sun's JDK as the default one)?
[14:35] <deserteagle> Paddy_EIRE: thank you so much :)
[14:35] <ikonia> cold NO, the package manager, dpkg, synaptic, whatever one you choose to use
[14:36] <jrib> Jockeo: Instead of pasting, just import/open the file
[14:36] <spe3dy> bachelorboy,  that is a possibility
[14:36] <deserteagle> sudo mount /media/hdd6
[14:36] <Paddy_EIRE> deserteagle: sure.. :)
[14:36] <deserteagle> >_O
[14:36] <deserteagle> DAMN TILDA!
[14:36] <TuxIce> ColdBeer: System>Administration>SYnaptic Package Manger
[14:36] <bachelorboy> spe3dy, any idea on how I could check out that factor?
[14:36] <TuxIce> then click search and search for whatever package ikonia is talking about
[14:36] <Paddy_EIRE> deserteagle: just skip to "Installation of Windows XP" on that first post
[14:36] <TuxIce> if it has  a green box it is installed
[14:36] <spe3dy> bachelorboy,  not really, cant you just remove previous version of java?
[14:36] <tdn> Why is Launchpad so slow?
[14:37] <Jockeo> jrib: You mean save it as file and then open it? Yes it works, but takes some extra time..
[14:37] <deserteagle> Paddy_EIRE: :D
[14:37] <spe3dy> tdn,  i noticed that too, yesterday it was crawling
[14:37] <Scunizi> deserteagle, I think you need to create the vm (or  designate it) then change to booting from cd.. and when you click start on the vm it should boot directly to the installer for xp.
[14:37] <ompaul> !nickspam > ^garfield2^Off
[14:37] <tdn> It is horribly slow at this moment.
[14:37] <Creationist> Is it possible to play MIDI files in Linux?
[14:37] <|Dede|> I need help with getting Direct rendering to work, This is the error that occurs "direct rendering: No (LIBGL_ALWAYS_INDIRECT set)"
[14:37] <tdn> spe3dy, is it being DoS'ed or something?
[14:37] <TuxIce> |Dede| google it
[14:37] <ColdBeer> ikonia, how can i see if im using inetd or xinetd?
[14:37] <spe3dy> tdn,  no idea
[14:37] <FluxD> Hi, can someone tell me how to change window manager everytime I login I have to do metacity --replace but it resets back to no windows on login again
[14:37] <spe3dy> could be anything really
[14:37] <bachelorboy> spe3dy, actually there is just the latest Sun's JDK installed, but there is also the default installation of Java that comes with the Ubuntu installation
[14:37] <ikonia> ColdBeer: well, you only use 1, so see which one is installed
[14:37] <jrib> Jockeo: I'm pretty sure, you can't do what you asked.  At least not with the default software
[14:38] <Jockeo> jrib: ok thanks then I know, won't waste time looking further :)
[14:38] <deserteagle> Paddy_EIRE: oh, well see i already have a windows installation
[14:38] <Paddy_EIRE> deserteagle: ah yes thats right just a sec
[14:38] <cratel> I want to tailor what color a pushbutton is when it is pressed in my theme. How do I do this?
[14:38] <TuxIce> ColdBeer: System>Administration>SYnaptic Package Manger Then click search and type in inetd click search see if it has a green box
[14:39] <Scunizi> deserteagle, are you trying to use an existing xp install to boot into vmware server?
[14:39] <^^MAg^^> launchpad is down ?
[14:39] <spe3dy> no
[14:39] <ycy> hi there
[14:39] <spe3dy> just slow
[14:39] <ycy> rm: WARNING: Circular directory structure.
[14:39] <deserteagle> Scunizi: other way around, vmware in ubuntu to run winXP
[14:39] <ycy> This almost certainly means that you have a corrupted file system.
[14:39] <ycy> any ideas?
[14:39] <FloodBot1> ycy: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:39] <TuxIce> !quit
[14:39] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about quit - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[14:39] <mRSerii> someone here use zen karnel or has hp laptop?
[14:40] <Paddy_EIRE> deserteagle: are you a member of the disk group
[14:40] <kelvin911> anyone try "free the fish" ?
[14:40] <Scunizi> deserteagle, right but are you trying to run an existing xp install in a vm inside of ubuntu
[14:40] <TuxIce> quit So long and thanks for all the fish!
[14:40] <VoidedCheck> two for two, TuxIce
[14:40] <Filled-Void> Hi all, How may I log the mesaages that come when I run wine app.exe ? I tried wine app.exe > a.txt but that seems not to work.
[14:40] <Paddy_EIRE> deserteagle: then skip to "Running Other Operating Systems From Physical Partitions" on this page https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VMware/Server?highlight=%28vmware%29#head-1d6597545354aeae94dd051e8dc0048d4a475a57
[14:40]  * delcoyote hi
[14:40] <TuxIce> VoidedCheck huh?
[14:40] <VoidedCheck> trying to quit?
[14:41] <mRSerii> filled, "open aplication with..." and then select wine windows emulator
[14:41] <deserteagle> Scunizi: yes
[14:41] <FluxD> Hi, can someone tell me how to change window manager everytime I login I have to do metacity --replace but it resets back to no windows on login again
[14:41] <jrib> Filled-Void: command &> file
[14:41] <Filled-Void> jrib, I missed the & sign :D
[14:42] <jrib> Filled-Void: the messages are probably getting printed to stderr.  > redirects onle stdout
[14:42] <bachelorboy> TuxIce, do u know any administrative apps that check performance and maybe suggest any best practices?
[14:42] <VoidedCheck> TuxIce be gone
[14:42] <deserteagle> Paddy_EIRE: yeh, read that page. not particularly useful
[14:42] <Paddy_EIRE> FluxD: system > preferences > sessions then add "metacity --replace" to startup apps
[14:42] <deserteagle> =\
[14:42] <vinicius> how can i find out the ip address from my wireless router?
[14:42] <FluxD> Paddy_EIRE, did that same thing
[14:42] <TuxIce> VoidedCheck: yes i am
[14:43] <Paddy_EIRE> deserteagle: and you went here http://www.venturecake.com/a-simple-guide-to-using-your-existing-windows-install-apps-in-ubuntu/
[14:43] <Scunizi> deserteagle, I'd use partimage to make a copy of your xp partition before attempting this.. there are a couple of how to's on the web but when I tried it .. it was disasterous.. borked my entire windows install.
[14:43] <mRSerii> someone here can connect to my computer and help me to fix wireless problems?
[14:43] <Filled-Void> jrib, thank you that works :D
[14:43] <bachelorboy> thanx for your time people! bye
[14:44] <Paddy_EIRE> FluxD: have you tried doing alt+f2 once you have just logged in and entered metacity then type "gnome-session-save@
[14:44] <Haru> if i want to take a printout of a high res image on several a4 sheets w/o providing any margins.. how do i do it/
[14:44] <Paddy_EIRE> FluxD: I mean "gnome-session-save"
[14:44] <FluxD> Paddy_EIRE, nope
[14:44] <Paddy_EIRE> :)
[14:45] <kelvin911> anyone has video flickering when playing movie ??
[14:45] <kelvin911> is it compiz related issue?
[14:45] <FluxD> Paddy_EIRE, alt + f2 is terminal ?
[14:45] <Paddy_EIRE> FluxD: alt+f2 does a little run dialogue
[14:46] <Paddy_EIRE> FluxD: its so that if you do it in a terminal it wont open the terminal also after each login
[14:46] <FluxD> Paddy_EIRE, which is kinda like mini terminal ?
[14:46] <Paddy_EIRE> as above
[14:46] <Paddy_EIRE> up to you flu
[14:46] <FluxD> Paddy_EIRE, gnome-session-save works in terminal too ?
[14:47] <Paddy_EIRE> FluxD: yeah but now it'll load a terminal once you login each time also
[14:47] <deserteagle> Paddy_EIRE: yep, read that, can't boot into my winxp partition though :(
[14:47] <ysk> i have kubuntu 8.4 beta and i want GNOME desktop what to do?
[14:47] <FluxD> Paddy_EIRE, okay thanks
[14:47] <Paddy_EIRE> hence the alt+f2 method FluxD
[14:47] <ikonia> ysk: install the hadry beta, and support for hardy is in #ubuntu+1
[14:47] <Haru> if i want to take a printout of a high res image on several a4 sheets w/o providing any margins or tumble.. how do i do it???
[14:47] <bartmon> Hey guys. A bit offtopic but i have problems with my WAN connection. Do you know of any good stress tests for them?
[14:47] <ikonia> !offtopic | bartmon
[14:47] <ubotu> bartmon: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[14:48] <Paddy_EIRE> deserteagle: it aint an exact science yet either so I would not expect it to be 100% I would also not recommend doing so either as it is potentially destructful
[14:48] <mattywarr> [sory if this appears twice - connection to irc timed out] is there an easy way to install php and apache?
[14:49] <FluxD> !lamp mattywarr
[14:49] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about lamp mattywarr - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[14:49] <Scunizi> !lamp | mattywarr
[14:49] <ubotu> mattywarr: LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[14:49] <mattywarr> thanks :)
[14:50] <Creationist> How do I play MIDI files in Linux?
[14:50] <FluxD> Creationist, xmms ?
[14:50] <Col^> Creationist, vlc player should do the job
[14:51] <Col^> But yeah, i think the standard media players have the ability
[14:52] <Paddy_EIRE> Creationist: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MidiSoftwareSynthesisHowTo
[14:52] <Creationist> FluxD, Col^ - Yeah, neither of those work.
[14:52] <Col^> Oh, ok
[14:53] <Col^> I'm sorry, i thought they did
[14:53] <bent_> Hey, #ubuntu, I'ma returning user, and I've had a uphill battle with my broadcom wireless. I don't even see a interface for it yet! I've tried ndiswrapper, and the b43 firmware, and neither worked... and I clean installed between those. Restricted software isn't showing anything from Broadcom, but it did help me fix my nvidia card... is there something I missed?  I have a Broadcom Corporation BCM94311MCG wlan mini-PCI (rev 02).
[14:53] <FluxD> !medibuntu | Creationist
[14:53] <ubotu> Creationist: medibuntu is a repository of packages that cannot be included into the Ubuntu distribution for legal reasons - See http://www.medibuntu.org
[14:53] <VoidedCheck> broadcom is notorious for their suckage
[14:54] <VoidedCheck> can't help you, but just letting you know lots of ppl have problems with broadcom routers
[14:54] <Born2Develop> join #ubuntu-nl
[14:54] <mattywarr> when 8.04 LTS gets released, will you be able to update from 7.10 through the update manager?
[14:54] <FluxD> bent_, I believee I had the same card I got it workin fine with ndiswrapper
[14:54] <FluxD> mattywarr, yes
[14:54] <Scunizi> mattywarr, yes
[14:54] <mattywarr> wow
[14:54] <DIL> bent_, i gave up with my linksys card and bought a netgear that worked out of the box $20 tigerdirect
[14:54] <mattywarr> < - new to linux but loving it!
[14:55] <bent_> FluxD: Well, I tried that from apt-get, and installed some drivers... then ended up removing that and compiling, and nothing.
[14:55] <onca> how do I discover what package, a file is part of?
[14:55] <Paddy_EIRE> mattywarr: just so you know a clean install is *always* better..
[14:55] <astro76> onca: dpkg -S /path/to/file
[14:55] <FluxD> bent_, you have to compile it yourself the repo version sucks
[14:55] <onca> astro76: thank ye.
[14:55] <spas> mattywarr, alt+F2; gksu update-manager -d
[14:55] <mattywarr> ok, thanks for the tip Paddy_EIRE
[14:55] <bent_> DIL: I guess I have to look through my boxes of wires for the little USB netgear thing I bought a long long time ago.
[14:55] <aseeon> I have a big problem, but lets start from the beginning. I have two Sound Cards, almost not working onboard integreted HD Audio and the USB Audio SoundCard from Creative. I had a problem playing sound with mplayer but when i disabled the chip of the onboard card it helped. But i do not have sound on Youtube and other flash movies.
[14:55] <mattywarr> and spas
[14:55] <aseeon> How to fix that ?
[14:55] <Haru> if i want to take a printout of a high res image on several a4 sheets w/o providing any margins or tumble.. how do i do it???
[14:55] <carpark> hi, i'm having trouble connecting my krzr km1 phone to moto4lin
[14:56] <bent_> Kay, thanks #ubuntu. I'ma go on a hunt now.
[14:56] <Siph0n> carpark, what service do u have?
[14:56] <cyzie> aseeon, u want to use the usb card or u want to use onboard sound ?
[14:56] <carpark> Siph0n: verizon wireless
[14:56] <aseeon> usb one
[14:56] <aseeon> i want to use it with everything
[14:57] <cyzie> aseeon, first by disable onboard sound card in the bios. this is a must
[14:57] <aseeon> i have done it
[14:57] <aseeon> so now mplayer plays correctly
[14:57] <cyzie> aseeon, hav eyou done disable it in the bios?
[14:57] <FluxD> bent_, http://www.linuxscrew.com/2007/09/19/get-wi-fi-working-on-dell-inspiron-1501-with-ubuntu/ (thats not for broadcom drivers but intel, but thats the tutorial I used)
[14:57] <aseeon> yes i disabled it in bios
[14:57] <Creationist> Is there any way to setup a GUI media player (vlc, Amarok, etc) to play MIDI files?
[14:57] <Siph0n> carpark, http://moto4lin.sourceforge.net/wiki/KRZR_K1
[14:57] <cyzie> aseeon, so now mplayer has the right sound but other ?
[14:58] <FluxD> Creationist, what error you get?
[14:58] <Siph0n> carpark, tho im not sure if that will work for Verizon... I have a verizon motoslvr, and could never get it to work... :(
[14:58] <aseeon> As far as i can tell onfly flash movies does not play sound right
[14:58] <aseeon> only*
[14:58] <cyzie> aseeon, how did you install the flash ?
[14:58] <Vadi> My friends X server crashes everytime the screensaver comes in and when he goes to change the screensaver too. What's the terminal command to change it without doing a preview?
[14:58] <aseeon> though Firefox
[14:58] <carpark> Siph0n: thanks for the link, i tried using those instructions last night and got close (but didn't get it to work). i'm going to try it again though, tweak things a bit maybe
[14:58] <Paddy_EIRE> bent FluxD this is the best guide I have found all in all for the inspiron 1501 http://www.ubuntu1501.com/
[14:59] <cyzie> aseeon, dont do that, use synaptic or apt-get
[14:59] <aseeon> ok, so how to fix this now ?
[14:59] <cyzie> first by remove it in the firefox, then use synaptic to install it.
[14:59] <Creationist> FluxD: No errors.  vlc just doesn't play anything.  Opens the file and immediately closes it again.  But I just did a Google for it (which I should have done first, sorry) and see that xmms has a plugin for it.  So I'll try that now.
[14:59] <FluxD> Paddy_EIRE, I dont have an inspiron :)
[14:59] <carpark> Siph0n: oh! what does "install cdc_acm support from the kernel" mean and how do i do it? i've been confused on that part.
[14:59] <Siph0n> carpark, ok.... how about BitPim ? Have you tried to use that??? Their web page says it supports the K1m. http://bitpim.org
[14:59] <Paddy_EIRE> FluxD: oh.. nm
[15:00] <Siph0n> carpark, sorry I dont know about cdc_acm
[15:00] <aseeon> cyzie: and do you know where firefox keeps plugins ?
[15:00] <carpark> Siph0n: that's ok, thanks for the bitpim link, i'll check and see if that works too. thanks for the help!
[15:00] <Haru> if i want to take a printout of a high res image on several a4 sheets w/o providing any margins or tumble.. how do i do it???
[15:01] <cyzie> aseeon, try go to add-on and check it
[15:01] <aseeon> i only have an option to turn it off
[15:01] <aseeon> and not to uninstall it
[15:02] <Jockeo> In OpenOffice, how do I write a "b" with a "~" above it?
[15:02] <cyzie> aseeon, would it help if you disable first, then shutdown the firefox and then start again and uninstall ?
[15:03] <aseeon> i will try
[15:03] <SuperRoach> anyone used kmobile tools on ubuntu before? having trouble setting it up
[15:03] <Paddy_EIRE> !kubuntu | SuperRoach
[15:03] <ubotu> SuperRoach: Kubuntu is Ubuntu with KDE, the K Desktop Environment, instead of Gnome. See http://kubuntu.org for more information - For support: #kubuntu - See also !KDE
[15:03] <Siph0n> carpark, I found this btw, modprobe cdc_acm , to load the cdc_acm module....
[15:04] <TheDarKiller> hey, I just recently installed Ubuntu on my old Dell C600. Everything went fine, but suddenly, my battery stopped working, and I was told I should update my BIOS. Now, I found this: http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Dell_BIOS_Upgrade and followed it. But when I reboot now, it tells me I don't have any battery inserted. Any help appreciated :)
[15:04] <carpark> Siph0n: ooh, that's that? I'm sorry, i don't know what any of the computer jargon means :)
[15:05] <Siph0n> carpark, type "sudo modprobe cdc_acm" , without the quotes in a terminal... and than try moto4lin again....
[15:05] <Haru> if i want to take a printout of a high res image on several a4 sheets w/o providing any margins or tumble.. how do i do it???
[15:05] <okanime> hi people! im a newbie
[15:05] <carpark> Siph0n ok, thanks a bunch!
[15:06] <Jack_Sparrow> TheDarKiller, I have ubuntu on three c series dells and none have had a problem..  There is a problem with the charging circuit on those laptops.. and No, I never upgraded the bios on mine
[15:06] <TheDarKiller> Oh.
[15:06] <okanime> i want to start running ubuntu or kubuntu on my laptop. any advice please?
[15:06] <aseeon> and now i do sudo aptitude install flashplugin-nonfree ?
[15:06] <Jack_Sparrow> okanime, what model of laptop
[15:06] <cyzie> aseeon, no
[15:06] <Col^> okanime, you can start to see if it's supported
[15:07] <astro76> !install | okanime
[15:07] <ubotu> okanime: Ubuntu can be installed in a lot of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall. Don't want to use a CD? Try http://tinyurl.com/3exghs - See also !automate
[15:07] <okanime> HP Pavilion DV5000 running AMD Turion
[15:07] <Col^> and, if there are any, which problems it might have with ubuntu
[15:07] <aseeon> cyzie: then what do i do now ?
[15:07] <Jack_Sparrow> !hardware
[15:07] <ubotu> For lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport - To help debugging and improving hardware detection, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingHardwareDetection
[15:07] <recon> Is there a command-line equivlant of GNOME's 'log out' button that brings up a menu?
[15:07] <TheDarKiller> Well, the primary problem is that the battery is charged (checked by removing it from the bay and pressing the button), but the computer is not using it (if I remove AC Adapter, it does not power on)
[15:08] <cyzie> aseeon, try install this libswfdec0.3
[15:08] <TheDarKiller> It says 'charging' in Ubuntu, always at 0%.
[15:08] <okanime> i have a turion 64 mobile chipset with a ATI Radeon 200M 2GB RAM, 120GB HDD
[15:08] <okanime> i think it handle it right?
[15:08] <TheDarKiller> I also tried to switch the battery from the left bay to the right.
[15:08] <Jack_Sparrow> TheDarKiller, check carefully the little connections on the edge of the battery and in the laptop itself..
[15:09] <Col^> okanime, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTestingTeam
[15:09] <cyzie> aseeon, make sure u restart FF after you done install it.
[15:09] <okanime> Col^ Thanks
[15:09] <ChaosTheory^> How can I make SumatraPDF running under Wine my default .pdf viewer?
[15:09] <aseeon> aptitude does not found it
[15:09] <okanime> going there now
[15:09] <Jack_Sparrow> okanime, yes it can handle it, have you tried the livecd yet?
[15:09] <aseeon> this package
[15:09] <TheDarKiller> I know it is quite pointless to ask in here, but this is the only place I can think of help from.
[15:09] <Col^> you're welcome
[15:09] <berent> has anyone installed flexible flash editor and working on it??
[15:10] <astro76> TheDarKiller: there's #hardware
[15:10] <berent> has anyone installed flexible flashplayer and working on it??
[15:10] <aseeon> maybe you ment libswfdec-0.6-90?
[15:10] <Jack_Sparrow> aseeon, have you enabled the souce for it?
[15:10] <berent> has anyone installed "flexible" flashplayer and working on it??
[15:10] <Jack_Sparrow> !info  flashplugin-nonfree
[15:10] <ubotu> flashplugin-nonfree (source: flashplugin-nonfree): Adobe Flash Player plugin installer. In component multiverse, is optional. Version <IP_ADDRESS>ubuntu1~gutsy1 (gutsy), package size 17 kB, installed size 156 kB (Only available for i386 amd64 lpia)
[15:11] <Jack_Sparrow> berent, Please stop repeating
[15:11] <Oprtz> when i play a DVD *.vob file in totem player it plays it but when i forward it, it says Internal Error, data flow error, what is that?
[15:11] <ChaosTheory^> How do you make a program running under Wine the default program if it doesn't show up under "recommended applications" through right click?
[15:11] <Orbixx> Oprtz: Try mplayer
[15:11] <cyzie> asseon, it is from http://archive.ubuntu.com gutsy/universe Packages
[15:11] <ChaosTheory^> I don't think I can directly link to it since the .wine directory is hidden.
[15:11] <okanime> ubuntu or kubuntu which is better?
[15:11] <aseeon> Jack_Sparrow: when i install flashplugin-nonfree it does not work with my USB Audio soundcard
[15:11] <Oprtz> i dont have mplayer? can i find in ADD/REMOVE programe
[15:11] <aseeon> cyzie: but aptitude only found newer version
[15:12] <VoidedCheck> wine creates desktop icons, so I don't see why not
[15:12] <Jack_Sparrow> okanime, install ubuntu and you can add the kde "Kubuntu" desktop and select between them when you login
[15:12] <Jack_Sparrow> aseeon, /join #Alsa
[15:12] <ChaosTheory^> Okay, I figured it out, thanks. =D
[15:12] <Oprtz> Orbixx:  opss i have Mplayer installed, when i play video file with it, it opens and crashes suddenly and disapear the player..........
[15:12] <cyzie> aseeon, try that
[15:12] <Bravewolf> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/63833/
[15:12] <Bravewolf> any tips?
[15:12] <aseeon> trying
[15:12] <okanime> ah! i didnt know i could do that
[15:12] <okanime> thatnks
[15:13] <Jack_Sparrow> Bravewolf, please describe the issue and avoid posting just a link
[15:13] <okanime> can i run some of my old apps like dreamweaver?
[15:13] <Col^> okanime, it depends, if you want a thin desktop, or a bit heavier like GNOME, i think it comes down to, whether or not your system handles GNOME all right
[15:13] <okanime> i google and peeps were having probs with it
[15:13] <Col^> okanime, windows apps?
[15:13] <Jack_Sparrow> okanime, not dreamweaver.. but check this out
[15:13] <Jack_Sparrow> !appdb
[15:13] <ubotu> The Wine Application DB is a database of applications and help for !Windows programs that run under !WINE: http://appdb.winehq.org
[15:13] <blotto> how do you see post install msgs (the ones that pop up with you emerge)
[15:14] <Valtiel-I> hi people
[15:14] <Bravewolf> Jack_Sparrow: error in the post install script of acpid.
[15:14] <aseeon> cyzie: nope still does not have sound
[15:14] <dhude> what are "surprise packages"? yesterday some dude threthen me he would send those and tody I cannot boot with my machine
[15:14] <Valtiel-I> who use warcraft 3 in wine ?
[15:14] <astro76> blotto: Ubuntu doesn't use emerge
[15:14] <aseeon> i will try on #Alsa
[15:14] <Bravewolf> Jack_Sparrow: impossibility to upgrade acpid in hardy
[15:14] <blotto> astro76: where do you live jokr. hehe
[15:15] <Jack_Sparrow> Bravewolf, thanks.. now post that info with your link and wait for an answer
[15:15] <cyzie> aseeon, can u paste the result, dpkg -l | grep -i flash ?
[15:15] <blotto> for me it is one; i am thinking stopping using tor on freenode, because it is unusable (for me)
[15:15] <Jack_Sparrow> Bravewolf, are you running hardy or gutsy
[15:15] <Bravewolf> Jack_Sparrow: hardy
[15:15] <Jack_Sparrow> !hardy
[15:15] <ubotu> Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 24, 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - CONSIDER IT TO BE BETA SOFTWARE - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[15:15] <blotto> Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 24, 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - CONSIDER IT TO BE BETA SOFTWARE - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[15:16] <bent_> Eh, couldn't find my wireless card.
[15:16] <Valtiel-I> ,,,
[15:16] <Valtiel-I> ???
[15:16] <astro76> blotto: it would seem that you're the joker now wouldn't it
[15:16] <Valtiel-I> who use warcraft 3 in wine ?
[15:16] <VoidedCheck> blotto the clown
[15:16] <VoidedCheck> it fits
[15:16] <blotto> astro76: solved my lumbar sprain. is weird
[15:16] <Jack_Sparrow> Valtiel-I, please dont repeat...
[15:16] <aseeon> ii  libswfdec-0.6-90                           0.6.4-2                       SWF (Macromedia Flash) decoder library
[15:16] <dhude> what are "surprise packages"? yesterday some dude threaten me he would send those and today I cannot boot with my machine
[15:16] <blotto> who use warcraft 3 in wine ?
[15:17] <astro76> !ops | blotto
[15:17] <ubotu> blotto: Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti, mneptok, Pici, Jack_Sparrow, nickrud, jpatrick or jussi01!
[15:17] <Valtiel-I> нуы
[15:17] <jewjew> Should I have to do anything besides drag fonts into my fonts folder and refresh the font cache to install fonts?
[15:17] <Valtiel-I> yes
[15:17] <okanime> hey dudes thanks a lot for the infos, now i know what to do. yo'all great! heard about this site on BBC Click Online. I will drop by soon and spend more time here. Yo'all be good. Peace out!
[15:17] <Valtiel-I> i have a problem
[15:17] <astro76> !font | jewjew
[15:17] <ubotu> jewjew: Font installation basics here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FontInstallHowto - No fonts in Flash? Install "msttcorefonts" (from !Multiverse), "gsfonts", and "gsfonts-x11". No fonts in MPlayer? see !MPlayer
[15:17] <Jack_Sparrow> okanime, come back any time
[15:17] <Valtiel-I> people who trying to connect if i create
[15:17] <blotto> ubotu: conditional comments.  they usually are
[15:17] <Amaranth> blotto: Please keep the offtopic chatter out of this channel
[15:17] <Valtiel-I> can't do this
[15:17] <CriSiS> good afternoon ;)
[15:17] <Jack_Sparrow> astro76, I am right here.. no need to wake everyone up
[15:17] <blotto> thanks
[15:18] <CriSiS> one quick question, please
[15:18] <cyzie> aseeon, it's not working.. that's just strange
[15:18] <CriSiS> UUID=002CA2552CA2458E /media/sda1 ntfs-3g defaults,locale=it_IT.UTF-8 0 1
[15:18] <Jack_Sparrow> morning Amaranth
[15:18] <Amaranth> morning Jack_Sparrow
[15:18] <CriSiS> this is my fstab line for an ntfs partition
[15:18] <Valtiel-I> and i can't to connect but i see create games
[15:18] <blotto> /msg dpkg reference (and 'apt howto') ;-)
[15:18] <FluxD> dont paste here!
[15:18] <CriSiS> how can i make it writable by user?
[15:18] <boulboul> bonjour  je veux téléchargé le tutoriel du siteduzero php/MaySQL comment faire merci
[15:18] <blotto> $sql = 'INSERT INTO `paypaldonate` (`id`, `name`, `amount`, `address`, `date`, `email`, `anonymous`) VALUES (\'asdfa234ad\', \'quentusrex\', \'12\', \'asdfasdf\', \'2008-04-12 21:23:01\', \'asdfa\', \'1\')';   How do I change that code so that it'll use the string value of $name for the name field???
[15:18] <Valtiel-I> what's a problem ?
[15:18] <FluxD> !fr | boulboul
[15:19] <ubotu> boulboul: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[15:19] <Oprtz> when i play a DVD *.vob file in totem player it plays it but when i forward it, it says Internal Error, data flow error, what is that? Also i have Mplayer and VLC installed when i play video file with them, open the player but crashed/disapaer immediatly, can only play videos in totem player but it also has errors... please sugges me
[15:19] <Jack_Sparrow> Morning Seveas
[15:19] <Seveas> hey
[15:19] <Oprtz> !paste
[15:19] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post multiple-lined texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic)
[15:19] <astro76> Oprtz: using compiz? what video card?
[15:19] <Seveas> could be just me, but blotto smelled like a bad eliza
[15:19] <ChaosTheory^> Anyone know how to access a printer that's on the wireless network?
[15:19] <ompaul> Seveas, na don't think so
[15:20] <ChaosTheory^> It's directly connected to a computer running WinXP.
[15:20] <Oprtz> astro76:  yes i am using compiz with Intel 946GZ Express Chipset 128MB vga
[15:20] <Jack_Sparrow> Oprtz, run mplayer and or vlc from command line and look for the error
[15:20] <Siph0n> ChaosTheory^, cups?
[15:20] <ChaosTheory^> Siph0n: Cups?
[15:20] <VoidedCheck> !cups
[15:20] <ubotu> Printing in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows
[15:20] <astro76> Oprtz: I would try without compiz
[15:20] <Seveas> ompaul, well, most elizas make more sense than him :)
[15:20] <Jack_Sparrow> Oprtz, how did you install the restricted extras.. you didnt use any scripts or odd how-to's did you
[15:20] <Oprtz> Jack_Sparrow:  in terminal use this command ? vlc and press enter?
[15:20] <ChaosTheory^> VoidedCheck: Okay, thanks. I'll take a look at that.
[15:20] <ompaul> !samba | ChaosTheory^ you get dreadful o/s to share it and then you use a samba client to access it
[15:20] <ubotu> ChaosTheory^ you get dreadful o/s to share it and then you use a samba client to access it: Samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT.
[15:20] <Jack_Sparrow> Oprtz, should work
[15:21] <PriceChild> ChaosTheory^: make sure the windows machine is sharing it (right click it and click sharing etc. etc.) then its pretty easy to find from system > admin > printing in ubuntu
[15:21] <Oprtz> ok wait
[15:21] <ChaosTheory^> PriceChild: Okay, I'll go and do that.
[15:22] <dhude> what are "surprise packages"? yesterday some dude threaten me he would send those and today I cannot boot with my machine
[15:22] <bazhang> dhude: what exact error are you getting
[15:23] <dhude> no boot
[15:23] <Oprtz> Jack_Sparrow:  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/63834/
[15:23] <Jack_Sparrow> dhude, did you run something they sent you
[15:23] <dhude> the machine just doesn't do anything
[15:23] <dhude> nope, IAhaven't accepted anything
[15:23] <bazhang> dhude: how old is this machine
[15:23] <dhude> about 1,5 yers
[15:23] <dhude> years
[15:23] <titusg> I used apt to upgrade my laptop on Friday and since then it won't boot. The progress bar gets all the way to the end but then it just hangs. I can boot it in recovery mode only. How can I work out what's wrong? (This happened to me before and it was about the ndis kernel module -- booting without the wireless card worked ok but that doesn't help this time, so I don't think it's the same problem...)
[15:23] <Jack_Sparrow> Oprtz, what about my other questions
[15:24] <jonathan__> hello!
[15:24] <VoidedCheck> unless this "some dude" has root access to your comp, issue is unrelated
[15:24] <SeXsNiPeR> Ciao a tutti !!!
[15:24] <jonathan__> i've a simple problem i think...
[15:24] <bazhang> !it | SeXsNiPeR
[15:24] <ubotu> SeXsNiPeR: Vai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[15:24] <SeXsNiPeR> ok tnx
[15:24] <Oprtz> Jack_Sparrow:  i installed restricted software with the help of this channel , i asked questions and the guys help me, i am new to linux,
[15:24] <jonathan__> I tried to connect a mtp-media player with amarok and it didn't work.
[15:24] <jochmenDS_> try alive cd to see
[15:24] <dhude> okay, thank you, VoidedCheck
[15:24] <bazhang> dhude: with the scarcity of info you are offering there is no telling; sounds like a hardware failure
[15:24] <groken_> i've defined a function in .bashrc however i can only get it to run if i type "bash" before calling the command. otherwise i get a bash error stating that the command was not found. running source .bashrc seems to do nothing
[15:25] <|Dede|> How can I set it so that metacity starts automatically on startup? I uninstalled compiz, and now metacity doesnt start automatically
[15:25] <jonathan__> i now found the reason through typing "mtp-detect" once as user root and once as I'm just logged in with my standard user-name.
[15:25] <dhude> thank you bazhang
[15:25] <Jack_Sparrow> titusg, have you manually changed any of your sources prior to the upgrade
[15:25] <amenado> groken_-> paste the function you created
[15:26] <titusg> Jack_Sparrow: no
[15:26] <Oprtz> Jack_Sparrow:  do u read http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/63834/ ?
[15:26] <spe3dy> |Dede|,  just curious, why would you uninstall compiz in favour of metacity?
[15:26] <jonathan__> when i'm logged in as a root it works nice, but if I'm trying the same as a normal user the console says that no mtp-device was found...
[15:26] <bazhang> dhude: you may want to remove the battery and try booting with only ac adapter if this is a laptop; otherwise might check out the #hardware channel
[15:26] <spe3dy> you didnt even have to do that, you could of just disbaled it in the gui
[15:26] <jochmenDS_> hmm low battery
[15:26] <ColdBeer> does anyone have kismet working?
[15:26] <Evil_inside> hi.
[15:26] <jonathan__> how can i solve that problem ?? :)
[15:26] <Jack_Sparrow> Oprtz, Yes, looked at it briefly  dont see the problem..  someone else will know.. I need my morning coffee
[15:27] <|Dede|> spe3dy: It always flickered when I wanted to play games, and it annoys me to alsways do "metacity --replace"
[15:27] <dhude> it's not a laptop bazhang, thenks
[15:27] <Oprtz> Jack_Sparrow:  ok :)
[15:27] <Evil_inside> i need a tftp client to uploade a config to my cable modem.. anyone know about a good tftp client ?
[15:27] <spe3dy> |Dede|,  you can use the appearence menu to disable it
[15:27] <|Dede|> spe3dy: Do you know how I can make metacity default
[15:27] <spe3dy> i just said
[15:27] <Oprtz> Jack_Sparrow:  if there is no problem why it disapear then :(
[15:28] <spe3dy> i guess you could just write a small bash script that will do metacity --replace on boot |Dede|
[15:28] <Evil_inside> any tftp client ?
[15:28] <Evil_inside> :P
[15:28] <Jack_Sparrow> |Dede|, See if #Compix people have an better answer..  it is necessary to turn of effects so those bid games work better..
[15:28] <bazhang> |Dede|: how about setting desktop effects to none in appearances
[15:28] <groken_> amenado: http://pastebin.com/d1566d7ec
[15:28] <spe3dy> bazhang,  thats what i said
[15:28] <bazhang> spe3dy: well said
[15:29] <bent_> wah!  Para Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es - allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[15:31] <Evil_inside> lol
[15:31] <Evil_inside> thanks.
[15:32] <Gnimsh> hi everyone
[15:32] <spe3dy> hi
[15:32] <cow_2001> can desktop sharing be used through the internet or only through the local network?
[15:32] <jewjew> Evil_inside: give me a sec
[15:33] <ProN00b> uuhm, can anyone tell me why my newly created totally empty ext3 filesystem got 46gb space "used" ? (shows up as 931 total, 46 used)
[15:34] <Evil_inside> jewjew ok
[15:34] <Jack_Sparrow> ProN00b, HOw did you create it
[15:34] <bazhang> ProN00b: what part of the disk is the partition on
[15:34] <astro76> cow_2001: it will work over the internet... the only difference is if you are using a router you will have to forward the appropriate port(s)
[15:34] <spe3dy> jewjew, LOL
[15:34] <spe3dy> nice name
[15:34] <ProN00b> Gparted
[15:34] <amenado> groken_-> try to use the full path for the commands
[15:34]  * bent_ continues a broadcom fight. Now with 3 pages of documentation!
[15:34] <larry_> any one know of a better movie player than movie player
[15:34] <cow_2001> astro76, can i set it to accept only local connections?
[15:34] <VoidedCheck> bent_, gl with that
[15:34] <ChaosTheory^> Okay, I can print, but everything is coming out . . . mirrored?
[15:34] <ProN00b> bazhang, i think its using the whole disk...
[15:35] <spas> larry_, xine?
[15:35] <Evil_inside> jewjew
[15:35] <ProN00b> Jack_Sparrow, using gparted
[15:35] <bazhang> larry_: vlc
[15:35] <amenado> bent_-> way to go dude...persistence
[15:35] <astro76> cow_2001: are you using a router?
[15:35] <larry_> ok thanks
[15:35] <nomad> larry, depends of your need, but vlc, totem are good enough
[15:35] <jewjew> Evil_inside: tftpd seems to work pretty well
[15:35] <VoidedCheck> mplayer is godly
[15:35] <Evil_inside> tftpd
[15:35] <cow_2001> astro76, that particular box is DMZed
[15:35] <ethand> larry: go with VLC
[15:35] <larry_> ok well i just want to wach movie's on it
[15:35] <bazhang> packages.ubuntu.com Evil_inside
[15:36] <Jack_Sparrow> ProN00b, and after gparted created the partition it shows that much used? or that much or your total tb is not available
[15:36] <Evil_inside> but i need a client
[15:36] <Evil_inside> not server
[15:36] <jewjew> Evil_inside: I depends on what you're looking for
[15:36] <astro76> cow_2001: then you would need to use some mechanism on the linux box to block attempts from outside the lan (like iptables)
[15:36] <jewjew> Evil_inside: OH sorry
[15:36] <ChaosTheory^> Anyone have any ideas
[15:36] <ChaosTheory^> ?
[15:36] <cow_2001> i see.
[15:37] <Ego> I've got a bit of a problem. I had a wubi installation and moved it with LVPM to a real partition. Now I notice he is using the GRUB loader from the new partition but he keeps loading the virtual Ubuntu and I can't get GRUB configured to load my new real one.
[15:37] <ProN00b> Jack_Sparrow, gparted shows 7.53gb used, but when i rightklick it in /media it shows the real size gparted gave me too, and that 46gb are used
[15:37] <cow_2001> astro76, thanks
[15:37] <amenado> Evil_inside-> atftp
[15:37] <astro76> cow_2001: or perhaps hosts.allow
[15:37] <Evil_inside> atftp
[15:37] <Evil_inside> ?
[15:38] <Jack_Sparrow> ProN00b, Please copy and paste this into a term  sudo apt-get install pastebinit  && cp /etc/fstab ~/Desktop/Partition_Layout.txt && sudo fdisk -l >> ~/Desktop/Partition_Layout.txt && cat /home/$USER/Desktop/Partition_Layout.txt | pastebinit  (Provide Pastebin link in channel)
[15:38] <Evil_inside> let me check..
[15:38] <ethand> ego:  /boot/grub/menu.lst
[15:38] <bazhang> Evil_inside: we have given you options where to search please do so thanks
[15:38] <cow_2001> astro76, thanks
[15:38] <Evil_inside> ok
[15:38] <Evil_inside> thanks
[15:39] <jewjew> Evil_inside: I haven't tried that.  Putty may do tftp
[15:39] <Evil_inside> hmm
[15:39] <titusg> I removed quiet splash using a live cd to see what's making my laptop hang when booting (I tried all the kernel on there) but there are no errors that I can see
[15:39] <amenado> Ego-> dont boot from windows at next boot, use the new one on the second partition
[15:39] <titusg> how can I troubleshoot it now?
[15:39] <Oprtz> guys can i rotate cube up and down?
[15:39] <Jack_Sparrow> titusg, did livecd boot ok?
[15:40] <Ego> I am using the new one, because the list in the grub config file on the new partition is the one I get first
[15:40] <amenado> titusg-> what was the fault during boot?
[15:40] <Jack_Sparrow> Oprtz, no
[15:40] <titusg> Jack_Sparrow: yes, fine.
[15:40] <Oprtz> Jack_Sparrow:  ok thanks
[15:40] <Ego> ethand: yeah I know I can edit them in grub to but I tried all possible partitions hd0,1 to hd0,4 and it still loads up the virtual installation
[15:40] <ordinateur> j #ubuntu-fr
[15:40] <Jack_Sparrow> titusg, ok.. just asking..
[15:40] <ProN00b> Jack_Sparrow, http://pastebin.com/f2b3639ad
[15:40] <amenado> Ego-> how do you verify it is the virtual installation?
[15:40] <titusg> Jack_Sparrow: thanks :-)
[15:40] <Shiri_> hi fstab does not mounts at boot nfs shared direktories -wth, wtdo ?
[15:41] <dell_> help anyone, i just installed kismet and got it working, yet when i end it, it knocks me off my wifi at home, how to i reestablish connectivity?
[15:41] <groken_> amenado: that seemed to work
[15:41] <groken_> thanks
[15:41] <Ego> because I can access the new disk as a seperate drive
[15:41] <amenado> groken_-> you're welcome
[15:41] <titusg> Jack_Sparrow: Actually now I see an error, re timidity -- cannot open shared object file libSM.so.6
[15:42] <Widget> Ubuntu 8 comes with KDE4 ?
[15:42] <ikerc_> dell you must configure kismet
[15:42] <amenado> Ego-> perhaps you are already booting on your hd?  you have installed so it must be booting from the new drive, ifyou want, you can remove the 1st drive to test that it does go to the second one
[15:42] <ikerc_> Widget,  haha
[15:42] <riley> no it doesn't come with kde4
[15:42] <Starnestommy> Widget: by default, it has Gnome 2.22 installed
[15:42] <astro76> Widget: it's 8.04, discussion for it in #ubuntu+1 ;)
[15:42] <groken_> amenado: is there a way to run the commands in a directory without making the term i'm in cd to that dir (as my code currently does)?
[15:42] <astro76> Widget: but it will have the option for both 3 and 4
[15:43] <Ego> ok, thank you amenado
[15:43] <Widget> lol, i knew it came with gnome and that kbuntu has kde.. but thought i read that ubuntui 8.04 shipped with it :P
[15:43] <amenado> groken_-> just use the full path /where/the/script/command/resides/command
[15:44] <titusg> can I use the live cd to stop using timidity? What are the alternatives?
[15:44] <Jack_Sparrow> ProN00b, I am still a bit sleepy so pardon my asking again.. but which partition are we talking about
[15:45] <ethand> I'm trying to print from gedit and it crashes everytime..has anyone encountered this problem?
[15:45] <groken_> amenado: in this case, the python i call looks at the current dir you are executing in to run. i would prefer to keep the python code i'm running standard and unmodified from the svn repository
[15:45] <ethand> **funny thing is that it gets printed, gedit just crashes
[15:45] <Shiri_> hi fstab does not mounts at boot nfs shared direktories -wth, wtdo ?
[15:45] <Jack_Sparrow> ethand, Not a common problem.. run it from terminal and look for an error
[15:46] <sdakak>  have got moinmoin, doku and mediawiki installed. You people told me to try all out and see what I like. I can't make up my mind. Please help me choose one. I will tell how I am going to use it if someone seems interested.
[15:46] <Jack_Sparrow> !best
[15:46] <ubotu> Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose, depending on your preferences, features you require, and other factors. Do NOT take polls in the channel. If you insist on getting people's opinions, ask BestBot in #ubuntu-bots.
[15:46] <amenado> groken_-> it is always best to use the full path when you are in a script, as the environment or shell may changed and you have not exported everything
[15:46] <ethand> jack_sparrow: thanks. I got an error just cant find anything in google about it
[15:46] <ethand> ^^ a solution that is
[15:47] <Jack_Sparrow> ethand, post the short version of the error in the channel.. and are you running ubuntu gutsy and not another release
[15:47] <amenado> groken_-> it does not change the code from svn repository, you are merely pointing the executable script from the svn repo directory
[15:47] <astro76> sdakak: how are you going to use it?
[15:47] <sdakak>  Installation is not a problem. I have got all three installed correctly. So one uses a db and others not is not in question. My wiki is going to gather articles for a newsletter. peer-editing is not a very great requirement. But admins being informed when there is a new submission is. The wiki needs to be organized well, so that it is easy to categorize the articles. I should also able to tag them - to make search easier. What say?
[15:47] <sdakak> astro76: ^
[15:48] <groken_> amenado: i get what you are saying, but the args that the python takes which is called from the shell script expects the arg to be a subfolder of the current working directory
[15:49] <unclemike> does ubuntu have pulseaudio
[15:49] <Seveas> unclemike, yes
[15:49] <Jack_Sparrow> sdakak, that would be a better discussion for the #Ubuntu-offtopic room
[15:49] <Seveas> as of ubuntu 8.04
[15:49] <xomp> is there a seperate channel for support on edubuntu?
[15:49] <bazhang> unclemike: the next release
[15:49] <Seveas> xomp, #edubuntu
[15:49] <amenado> groken_-> even you do cd to that directory, you can still use the full path
[15:49] <xomp> thanks Seveas :)
[15:49] <sdakak> Jack_Sparrow: relocating :(
[15:49] <earthian> Hello, why dosemu-freedos is so badly broken? :(
[15:50] <bazhang> earthian: what are you trying to do and what errors are you getting please describe with some details
[15:50] <groken_> amenado: are you saying i should pass the python the full path as an argument? i'm don't think it will allow that
[15:50] <LainIwakura> My CPU temp is constantly at around 50 C even though I'm using Fluxbox. Firefox-bin takes up a lot of resources,  I think. What is a good lightweight alternative?
[15:50] <bent_> Meh. I give up on broadcom.
[15:51] <bent_> LainIwakura: To firefox? I like Epiphany, but I'm a gnome user, and I have GTK always loaded.
[15:51] <earthian> bazhang, the package dosemu-freedos depends on dosemu and conflicts at the same time or so
[15:51] <amenado> groken_-> why not? try it, btw,  you have cd $PWD/django_projects/... well what happens ifyou were in a different dir? your $PWD would change yes?
[15:51] <LainIwakura> bent_: Ok, thanks.
[15:51] <ethand> jack_sparrow: GnomePrintCupsPlugin-Message: The ppd file for the CUPS printer mastroianni could not be loaded.
[15:51] <bazhang> earthian: I had two questions
[15:51] <amenado> bent_-> awws.you gave up, i had high hopes for you..
[15:51] <bent_> LainIwakura: If you're fond of QT, Knonquer is okay. If you hate graphics, lynx still exists.
[15:51] <unclemike> so right now no working pulseaudio
[15:52] <groken_> amenado: oohh, i see what you were saying about pwd, i fixed that already :) i'm trying to pass a full path now
[15:52] <ethand> i'm using dapper at work. I dont have access to the cups server, so i'm looking for a local fix
[15:52] <LainIwakura> bent_: Lynx... a little "too" lightweight :D But thanks for your suggestions.
[15:52] <Jack_Sparrow> ethand, Can I assume the printer works in other apps?  and what about my other question about what release/distro you arer using
[15:53] <earthian> bazhang, i am trying to use mkrboot to create a bootable dos flash disk
[15:53] <bent_> amenado: After the 5th re-install of ubuntu in 2 days... compiling ndiswrapper 3 different times, using 6 different drivers, and some firmware grabber... eh.
[15:53] <amenado> LainIwakura-> there is also the  w3m
[15:53] <ethand> jack:  yes, from what i googled, its a known bug with some gnome/gtk apps. im using dapper
[15:53] <bazhang> earthian: for what purpose please
[15:53] <ethand> jack:  all my other apps print ok
[15:54] <amenado> bent_-> only the 5th? thats normal, when doing trial and error, and specifically with broadcoam chips 43xx  :)
[15:54] <jewjew> LainIwakura: links2 is probably the most lightweight if you want pictures
[15:54] <earthian> bazhang, bios upgrade if that helps anyhow to solve the problem with dosemu-freedos ¬¬
[15:54] <groken_> amenado: i got it working, thanks again!
[15:54] <amenado> bent_-> but i can relate to the pain..
[15:54] <Jack_Sparrow> bent_, I have never had a problem with the bcm43xx, I always used fwcutter to do the work
[15:54] <bent_> amenado: Well, the first two were before I cared about wireless... using wubi on defragmented drives does not work.
[15:54] <amenado> groken_-> cool ... you're welcome
[15:54] <morgan> Ubuntu 8.04 is amazing
[15:55] <bazhang> earthian: ah a bios upgrade.
[15:55] <matt444> hello.  If I change the permissions of a folder, will that apply to all files IN the folder, including files that have yet to be moved to the folder?  If not, how do I achieve this goal?
[15:55] <bent_> Jack_Sparrow: Cool, because... alas, I don't have that broadcom model. And neither do most people.
[15:55] <amenado> bent_-> but you see some are luckier than us..hehe
[15:55] <jrib> matt444: no.  Why do you want to achieve this?  give more details
[15:55] <unclemike> when 8.04 supose to be released
[15:55] <Jack_Sparrow> bent_, std issue in most old dells
[15:55] <bazhang> 4 days unclemike
[15:55] <Jack_Sparrow> unclemike, very very soon
[15:56] <bent_> matt444: If you're using gnome, there's a button that applys permission to enclosed files...
[15:56] <matt444> jrib:  i want another device on my network to be able to delete files in this folder.
[15:56] <matt444> bent_:  i don't want to have to change permissions every time I move files to the folder.
[15:56] <bent_> matt444: I think that should work.
[15:56] <unclemike> so if i install 7.10 can i upgrade to 8.04 as of now
[15:56] <xomp> #edubuntu is deader than a door nail :(
[15:56] <amenado> matt444-> also nice to create a dummy directory with subdirs, toy with it, so you can learn the power of chmod, chown, and access list ..just do it, and see the effect of changes you make
[15:56] <Jack_Sparrow> unclemike, not the release version...
[15:56] <bazhang> unclemike: best wait four days
[15:56] <earthian> bazhang, if you would know a way to do this I would be very very thankful! :p
[15:57] <unclemike> k
[15:57] <jrib> matt444: you only need write permissions on the parent directory to delete a file.  You don't need permissions on the file
[15:57] <Jack_Sparrow> bent_, is that the 943?
[15:57] <bent_> xomp: Well, edubuntu is really just ubuntu with some extra apps.
[15:57] <amenado> matt444-> another device to delete? devices are block or character files ...do delete another file?
[15:58] <bent_> Jack_Sparrow: Yup, infact. BCM94311MCG
[15:58] <matt444> amenado: could you refrase that, i don't understand your question
[15:58] <xomp> bent_, yeah, I know :) I just don't want to get yelled at here for asking a question because it's "not the appropriate channel" :/
[15:58] <Jack_Sparrow> bent_, let me see if I have any info on that..
[15:58] <astro76> xomp: it's fine.. in fact starting in 8.04 edubuntu isn't a separate distro anymore, but an ubuntu add-on
[15:59] <amenado> matt444-> you said you want another device to delete files? that does not happen..a device cant be deleting files
[15:59] <Jack_Sparrow> bent have you seen this link  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=607378
[15:59] <bent_> I still call kubuntu an addon. :P
[15:59] <xomp> astro76, cool :) I just need help with adding users that are "restricted" or "Unprivledged" if that makes sense.
[15:59] <deserteagle> Paddy_EIRE: back again, i'm thinking screw it, i'll just do a clean install of winxp for a vm
[15:59] <bazhang> xomp: wasnt really yelling; just directing to a channel that might be more helpful
[15:59] <Paddy_EIRE> deserteagle: best bet :)
[15:59] <astro76> xomp: whatever method you use to add a new user, they will not be in the admin group by default, i.e. no sudo access
[16:00] <astro76> xomp: you can add them through system > admin > users and groups
[16:00] <matt444> amenado:  i'm not talking about /dev/ stuff.  another device that's attached to the network.  it has an IP address, but it is not a computer.  It can delete files, I've done it.  I just want to do it in the future without having to change file permissions every time I move a file to this directory.
[16:00] <bent_> xomp: Well, if you add users to specific groups... etc...etc, you can limit them to nearly nothing.
[16:00] <deserteagle> Paddy_EIRE: i can play games inside virtualbox / vmware right?
[16:00] <xomp> astro76, I have created a user account for my daughter as "Unprivledged" but when I click the "Advanced" tab I notice her "Main group" is empty. Should I change that to any particular group?
[16:00] <Paddy_EIRE> deserteagle: no
[16:00] <deserteagle> D+
[16:00] <deserteagle> D=
[16:00] <Paddy_EIRE> deserteagle: dual boot
[16:00] <jrib> matt444: you only need write permissions on the parent directory
[16:00] <deserteagle> but... but... but...
[16:00] <deserteagle> :{
[16:00] <astro76> xomp: on ubuntu the main group is typically a group with the same name as the user
[16:00] <jewjew> deserteagle: not well, and no directx games
[16:01] <matt444> jrib:  thanks, i'll give this a shot.
[16:01] <Paddy_EIRE> deserteagle: if you must play games that it
[16:01] <Paddy_EIRE> *is
[16:01] <xomp> bent_, yeah, I'm just trying to restrict them from breaking anything hahah my daughters are 8 & 9 years old
[16:01] <deserteagle> i must have at least C&C Generals ;_;
[16:01] <christopher> hello
[16:01] <jrib> matt444: what you were originally asking can be accomplished with ACL (Access Control Lists), but I don't think it's necessary here
[16:01] <deserteagle> and hitman 2
[16:01] <Paddy_EIRE> deserteagle: check compatibility with winehq.. failing that try cedega its very cheap
[16:01] <amenado> matt444-> am curious what kind of device this is? you allow it to delete a file on your system, does it log on first?
[16:01] <deserteagle> :D
[16:01] <astro76> xomp: without being in the admin group, they can't do anything outside their home directory by default
[16:02] <Jack_Sparrow> bent_, here is one other...   http://invaleed.wordpress.com/2007/11/20/install-bcm94311mcg-wlan-mini-pci-ubuntu-710/
[16:02] <WIDESPREADpanic> hi
[16:02] <bent_> xomp: I'm not shure I'd be opening the terminal and removing all the stuff... but the easiest "not destroy stuff" method is to remove the terminal... and not let them out of their home directory...
[16:02] <xomp> astro76, ok, that should be good enough. I will log in with her account to check permissions :)
[16:02] <matt444> amenado:  media streamer.  It has an IP address.  it accesses the files via samba.  it has to use a samba password.
[16:02] <WIDESPREADpanic> bent_ chroot jail
[16:02] <titusg> I think my boot problem isn't about timidity, it's the missing so file libSM.so.6 -- there's no such file...how can I fix that?
[16:02] <Jack_Sparrow> bent_, had you seen either of those links
[16:03] <bent_> Jack_Sparrow: I looked at that, and followed it, and still nothing in the 3rd iteration. It just asks to compile by hand, and use a driver I was allready using. Sorry.
[16:03] <WIDESPREADpanic> Jack can i ask u a question?
[16:03] <mRSerii> .ח #ונומאו-64
[16:03] <deserteagle> Paddy_EIRE: when setting up a new hdd in virtualbox, i should tell it the same exact size as my existing ntfs partition right?
[16:03] <titusg> this is as a result of applying upgrades to gutsy amazingly enough
[16:03] <amenado> matt444-> now i can comprehend, its an application that log on and then allowed to delete, the way you said it, threw me off, a device allowed to delete..
[16:03] <WIDESPREADpanic> Jack_sparrow
[16:03] <WIDESPREADpanic> u got time for a quick ?
[16:03] <stk0verflow> hey, can somebody help me here setting hot keys in Sony Vaio?
[16:03] <Paddy_EIRE> deserteagle: if you are planning on running games the vm will not cut it.. infact I doubt it will work for games at all
[16:04] <stk0verflow> plz pvt me if so
[16:04] <Jack_Sparrow> bent_, I know multiple people that have used tohse pages and gotten their 943's to work
[16:04] <VoidedCheck> yeah the vm graphics driver leaves something to be desired
[16:04] <Jack_Sparrow> !keys
[16:04] <ubotu> Keyboard shortcuts can be set in System -> Preferences -> Keyboard Shortcuts. If your multimedia keys don't work with that, try the 'keytouch' package, explained at http://keytouch.sourceforge.net - See !Keyboard for changing layouts
[16:04] <amenado> WIDESPREADpanic-> married man are known to practice quickies..haha
[16:04] <spe3dy> ?
[16:04] <Jowi> anyone know how to set up a grub entry to boot USB keys? for the arguments sake, let's say that /dev/sdb is always a bootable enabled fat16 key.
[16:04] <bent_> Jack_Sparrow: Hm. I guess I'll just do another clean install and follow that.
[16:04] <xomp> thanks everyone, I'm going to try logging in their accounts now :)
[16:04] <Jack_Sparrow> !ask > WIDESPREADpanic
[16:04] <bazhang> parallels may have rudimentary graphics for games though
[16:05] <Paddy_EIRE> deserteagle: I would also format the ntfs partition as vmware will create the windows installation/image on your existing fs
[16:05] <deserteagle> Paddy_EIRE: no worries, i only really need it for 2-3 apps that don't seem to run well under wine (one is a .net app that will launch but not run, another is photoshop untill i can install gimpshop and i forgot the other one)
[16:05] <serge4> hello, anyone know, how to remove broken packages?
[16:05] <Leonidas_> Hello everyone
[16:05] <amenado> Jowi-> just like any entries on your menu.lst  it must have the vmlinuz and initrd image to reside on that particular partition
[16:05] <Paddy_EIRE> deserteagle: photoshop 7 works very well in wine
[16:05] <bent_> serge4: Synaptic has a fix packages thing that I had to use once...
[16:05] <spe3dy> deserteagle, you can run .net apps with mono i do believe
[16:05] <WIDESPREADpanic> help : after i run kismet, it knocks me off my  wifi, and it did a ifconfig wlan0 -promisc, and took it out of promisc mode, yet i have to reboot to connect back to my wifi, any ideas?
[16:05] <quesada> what IRC client do you recommend?
[16:05] <mute> hey all im having trouble with my webcam