[09:54] <topyli> stjepan: not true
[09:54] <kg> hello, did any of you guys upgrade from debian unstable to hoary?
[09:54] <vengeful> yes, debians just happen to be 5 years old
[09:54] <topyli> Maikeru: yes
[09:54] <VR^> Maikeru: use sudo
[09:54] <crimsun> !tell Maikeru about root
[09:54] <NoUse> Maikeru root has been disabled in all Ubuntu releases
[09:54] <Maikeru> Never for me
[09:54] <Maikeru> I always su
[09:54] <stjepan> topyli: can u give me a numbers?
[09:54] <Maikeru> only for when I'm doing something that requires multi lines though
[09:54] <Howdy125> Root is enabled after this .. sudo passwd root
[09:54] <kg> I was wondering what problems I could possibly encounter, I'm in the middle of the upgrade right now ;)
[09:54] <Maikeru> oh, yeah, that
[09:55] <jas_> crimsun How would I strace it exactly remember linux noob if you :P
[09:55] <Tyler> grr when r the ubuntu updates gonna work again?
[09:55] <crimsun> jas_: you'll need to strace -o somefile mount -o loop [...]
[09:55] <VR^> Tyler: wait a couple months =)
[09:55] <nalioth> kg: sarge > breezy?
[09:55] <crimsun> jas_: probably easier if you sudo -s first
[09:55] <crimsun> Tyler: they're not working?
[09:55] <Tyler> nope its not downloading anything
[09:55] <Tyler> in synpatic i mean, they must be down
[09:55] <vengeful> takes awhile tyler
[09:55] <Skid> whats the command to search for a string 'inside' a file, or files, within a current given directory?
[09:55] <crimsun> Tyler: or did you not read the topic?
[09:56] <vengeful> i think they are just very busy?
[09:56] <jas_> crimsun Okay -o somefile is gonna be my output right where the results if you will goes right??
[09:56] <lllmanulll> kg, I don't think this would be a very good idea :)
[09:56] <crimsun> jas_: the first -o, yes
[09:56] <nalioth> Tyler: the servers are hammered atm
[09:56] <VR^> im glad i did my update last night!~
[09:56] <topyli> Maikeru: 17781 packages available for my system
[09:56] <mcquaid> hello, i want to compile something and make a deb out of it, there was a good guide in the forums (i believe the kde one) but with the forum restructuring i can't find it now
[09:56] <VR^> while everyone else was sleeping
[09:56] <mcquaid> did they archive the old kde forum?
[09:56] <Maikeru> topyli, okay...?
[09:56] <nalioth> ubotu: tell mcquaid about checkinstall
[09:56] <Tyler> i hope its gonna download, i just reinstalled and i dont wanna forget stuff
[09:56] <Belial-> stevencarson: tried dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg ?
[09:57] <stevencarson> ubotu: that page is if you have low res?  i just have a terminal type screen no windows at all
[09:57] <ubotu> stevencarson: I think you lost me on that one
[09:57] <WhyvasLT> hey, my loopback device seems to have died, I bring it up with ifconfig lo up, but i can't ping it and i can't use the localhost, when i bring up network tools, it seems like ipv6 is working but there's no entry for ipv4, does anyone know how i can reenable ip4 on the loopback ???
[09:57] <topyli> Maikeru: still looking for debian info
[09:57] <linuxamoeba21> 0% [Connecting to archive.ubuntu.com ...
[09:57] <mcquaid> ya i usually use checkinstall, but i wanted to go over the guide this user created to create  proper debs
[09:57] <pder> UBUNTU ARE NOT RUN ON COMPUTER SYSTEM
[09:57] <crimsun> linuxamoeba21: yes. Read the topic. Again.
[09:57] <mcquaid> and this is a lib i want to install, not sure if i can do that with checkinstall
[09:57] <antix> restarted and now I could get past the partitioner. one thing I did different was in the LVM config I chose Go back instead of Leave.. but could be anything...
[09:57] <jas_> crimsun Wow thats a pretty big file..
[09:57] <icewt> stevencarson, ubotu is a bot
[09:58] <VR^> hahah
[09:58] <linuxamoeba21> crimsun, i changed repos and did apt-get update
[09:58] <crimsun> jas_: yes, now please bzip2 it, and post it on the Web somewhere
[09:58] <pelle_> e hr ngon svenska hr inne jag behver hjlp
[09:58] <linuxamoeba21> just that slow?
[09:58] <pder> UBUNTU DO NOT SUPPORT PERSONAL COMPUTER SYSTEM
[09:58] <VR^> linuxamoeba21: you just have to wait... a lot
[09:58] <TiMiDo> pder: lower you're caps
[09:58] <linuxamoeba21> =(
[09:58] <Howdy125> ubotu: why is the sky blue
[09:58] <ubotu> Howdy125: what are you talking about?
[09:58] <vengeful> stevencarson, what does it say when you type startx
[09:58] <stjepan> is there more packages for ubuntu or for debian?
[09:58] <pelle_> ingen svensk hr inne
[09:58] <WildZeck> can we upgrade to 5.10 via apt-get dist upgrade ?
[09:58] <Howdy125> lol
[09:58] <TiMiDo> stjepan: apt-cache search package
[09:58] <Bad_Magic> if the repos werent down
[09:58] <crimsun> WildZeck: yes, but use a mirror, please.
[09:58] <Bad_Magic> yes
[09:58] <mcquaid> is there anywhere that they list the old kde forum?
[09:58] <mcquaid> for hoary?
[09:58] <crimsun> Bad_Magic: they're NOT down.
[09:58] <crimsun> read the topic.
[09:59] <nderjm> Anyone having display problems that sound like this: http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=17719
[09:59] <jas_> crimsun bzip? Umm remember linux nub.
[09:59] <linuxamoeba21> WildZeck, change your repos from hoary to breezy, sudo apt-get update, sudo apt-get dist-upgraed
[09:59] <WildZeck> where is the list ? mirror for apt ?
[09:59] <linuxamoeba21> *upgrade
[09:59] <stevencarson> "xserver-xorg is broken and not fully installed" apparently
[09:59] <Patrik88> anyone good at ettercap??
[09:59] <Bad_Magic> down, has the tar beaten out of it, same thing
[09:59] <miksu> my upgrade is running fine at 40 kbs .. no problems
[09:59] <crimsun> jas_: bzip2 nameOfStraceFile
[09:59] <Davey> 94%!
[09:59] <linuxamoeba21> /etc/apt/sources.list
[09:59] <TiMiDo> nderjm: let me look at the bug give me one second
[09:59] <crimsun> stevencarson: you need to finish downloading all the file
[09:59] <crimsun> s
[09:59] <Dekkard> servers are still waaaaaaaaay hammered
[09:59] <Dekkard> slashdotted even
[10:00] <jas_> should it end up being bz2 as the extension?
[10:00] <stevencarson> not all the packages installed from my cd, said something bout gcalc file list empty
[10:00] <crimsun> Bad_Magic: no, down != slow
[10:00] <TiMiDo> nderjm: xorg bug
[10:00] <TiMiDo> ?
[10:00] <jas_> crimsun should it end up being bz2 as the extension?
[10:00] <Davey> 95% :D
[10:00] <Patrik88> when i choose network interface i get this error: ERROR : 1, Operation not permitted
[10:00] <Patrik88> [ec_capture.c:capture_init:146]
[10:00] <Patrik88>  pcap_open: socket: Operation not permitted
[10:00] <crimsun> jas_: yes
[10:00] <Bad_Magic> slow to the point of not being usable = down
[10:00] <gino> what was the name of ubuntu before 5.10 ?
[10:00] <topyli> Maikeru: can't find it promptly, but IIRC debian unstable has a bit over 16000 packages
[10:00] <jas_> crimsun Okay umm trying to think of where i could post it..
[10:00] <Davey> Breezy Badger
[10:00] <crimsun> gino: Ubuntu.
[10:00] <nderjm> TiMiDo: know where I can find documentation on a work around?
[10:00] <WhyvasLT> hey, my loopback device seems to have died, I bring it up with ifconfig lo up, but i can't ping it and i can't use the localhost, when i bring up network tools, it seems like ipv6 is working but there's no entry for ipv4, does anyone know how i can reenable ip4 on the loopback ???
[10:00] <gino> no i want the version
[10:00] <Dekkard> it was the hoary hedgehog
[10:00] <crimsun> 5.04
[10:01] <VR^> gino: hoary hedgehog
[10:01] <crimsun> releases are biannual
[10:01] <TiMiDo> nderjm: http://doc.ubuntu.com/gnome/faqi386/C/
[10:01] <TiMiDo> it's a good one
[10:01] <topyli> Maikeru: anyway, sometimes debian does have something not readily available for ubuntu. then i use a debian source repository and build a package from that source on my box locally
[10:01] <Davey> I am *way* too excited :)
[10:01] <gino> ok hedgedog but which number ?
[10:01] <Bad_Magic> i updated last night
[10:01] <Bad_Magic> its nice
[10:01] <crimsun> gino: 5.04, like I said.
[10:01] <something_else> already updates to breezy?
[10:01] <Davey> 98% :)
[10:01] <Dekkard> 5.04
[10:02] <vidz> So what are the best features in breezy?
[10:02] <linuxamoeba21> gino, Ubuntu Hoary Hedgehog 5.04
[10:02] <robbie> mornings
[10:02] <casimir> ahh, mirror runs much faster
[10:02] <TiMiDo> vidz: /topic #ubuntu
[10:02] <something_else> d
[10:02] <Jemt> Greetings. I was going to install 'w32codecs' but it has been removed from repositories. Why is that ? And where can I find it ?
[10:02] <gino> ok 5.04   ok thanks u all
[10:02] <casimir> thanks
[10:02] <jas_> crimsun could I send the file through here?
[10:02] <crimsun> something_else: they're only to reversion mozilla so it's higher than what's in hoary-updates
[10:02] <Gobbla> is it safe to cancel a dist-upgrade and finish it later?
[10:02] <tristanmike> !tell Jemt about w32codecs
[10:02] <Davey> 99% :)
[10:02] <mcquaid> does anyone know if you can install libs with checkinstall? i've used checkinstall many times but never for libs
[10:02] <crimsun> jas_: yes, you may dcc
[10:02] <TiMiDo> !tell Jemt about w32codecs
[10:02] <TvM> how can i solve these problem?? http://pastebin.com/392652
[10:02] <crimsun> Gobbla: yes, it'll resume
[10:02] <stevencarson> how do i install the rest of the packages if all i have is a command line?
[10:02] <Gobbla> crimsun: aight
[10:02] <something_else> hmm ok, but i have to let you know theres a problem with hal in breezy
[10:02] <VR^> Jemt is being flooded by the bot
[10:02] <Jemt> TiMiDo: Some kind a bot function ?
[10:02] <VR^> hehehe
[10:03] <nalioth> mcquaid: yes you can install anything you can compile with checkinstall
[10:03] <Davey> stevencarson, apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[10:03] <stevencarson> Davey: ta
[10:03] <crimsun> something_else: hoary-security, sorry
[10:03] <ericmoritz> is there mirror for the security site?
[10:03] <vidz> TiMiDo: I am using a CGI:IRC client through a firewall. It doesn't display the topic
[10:03] <vidz> Gobbla: Is it still downloading files, or is it installing them?
[10:03] <TiMiDo> TvM: did you mount the device?
[10:03] <gino> is it possible to get xfce with ubuntu ?
[10:03] <mcquaid> k thx
[10:03] <EnsignRedshirt> Hello, world.
[10:03] <Davey> stevencarson, probably need to use sudo though :)
[10:03] <vengeful> gino, yes
[10:03] <crimsun> gino: xubuntu-desktop
[10:03] <TiMiDo> gino: yes it is
[10:03] <vengeful> very easy infact
[10:04] <TiMiDo> hello EnsignRedshirt
[10:04] <mcquaid> i want to try the kde voip app twinkle but it needs libs not in breezy
[10:04] <TvM> TiMiDo its my cdrom ..with no cd or dvd inside...
[10:04] <crimsun> mcquaid: which libs?
[10:04] <something_else> whats the mono version in breezy?
[10:04] <mohkohn> gino from memory sudo apt-get install xfce4
[10:04] <vidz> gino: Look for xubuntu-desktop in synaptic
[10:04] <jas_> crimsun I sent them you seem to not be responding
[10:04] <nderjm> TiMido:What am I looking for in this document?
[10:04] <TiMiDo> TvM: do apt-cdrom
[10:04] <glick> yeah whenever i open a window or a program my mouse freezes for a second
[10:04] <TiMiDo> nderjm: you tell me
[10:04] <EnsignRedshirt> I'm getting ready to install a new hard drive and Ubuntu.  Is there any reason /boot should have its own partition?
[10:04] <crimsun> something_else: mono | <IP_ADDRESS>-1ubuntu2 | http://us.archive.ubuntu.com breezy/main Packages
[10:04] <TiMiDo> glick: do you get any errors?
[10:04] <Davey> http://hashphp.org/pastebin.php?format=plain&pid=5017 <-- I keep getting that from apt, any solutions?
[10:04] <Jemt> TiMiDo: Thanks for all your help :)
[10:04] <something_else> thank you crimsun
[10:04] <TiMiDo> Jemt: np
[10:04] <Jemt> ^^
[10:05] <Peps> I would like to upgrade to Kubuntu breezy, but think it is best to fix the KDE menu problem first - for some time I am unable to make any changes in it - can someone point to me how to "reset" it?
[10:05] <nderjm> TiMiDo: I dont see anything about xorg issues, but I might need glasses :/
[10:05] <vidz> EnsignRedshirt: Yes, for system stability.
[10:05] <TiMiDo> hold up
[10:05] <mcquaid> crimsun, ccrtp-1.3.4.tar.gz and commoncpp2-1.3.16.tar.gz (minimum version is 1.3.0)
[10:05] <gino> sudo su apt-get
[10:05] <crimsun> jas_: I haven't received a dcc send request from you?
[10:05] <mcquaid> commoncpp should be fine i think, but ccrtp is 1.3.1 in breezy
[10:05] <something_else> finally crimsun, do you know how I can get an update to hal without resorting to cvs
[10:05] <nalioth> gino: what was that about?
[10:05] <TvM> TiMiDo i have that error every 2 s... if i put a cd in drive error stops...
[10:05] <nnonix> Any known issues with Breezy/Totem and quicktime files such as those from apple.com/trailers? Firefox says it has the pluggin but totem throws errors and says it cannot play the file.
[10:05] <EnsignRedshirt> vidz: How does a separate partition help with "stability"?
[10:05] <jas_> crimsun I Sent it twice actualy
[10:06] <nomed> nnonix, totem-xine ?
[10:06] <crimsun> jas_: I have received nothing
[10:06] <TiMiDo> nderjm: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UserDocumentation#head-19e51e4331625e264a28ed6c484b946c86882d15
[10:06] <jas_> crimsun Hmm thats odd
[10:06] <nnonix> nomed: yes
[10:06] <vidz> EnsignRedshirt: Ok, say a process goes bezerk and writes 10GB of log files. If you have /var on it's own partition, it doesn't fill up / and prevents things from getting nasty
[10:06] <crimsun> something_else: what needs to be updated in hal?
[10:06] <nderjm> TiMiDo: ATI Drive issues?
[10:06] <linuxamoeba21> nnonix, i've never had any luck with totem... kaffiene or mplayer?
[10:06] <TiMiDo> not sure,
[10:06] <nomed> i've had problem using xine based players
[10:06] <barbablues> does anyone know if the breezy dvd is ready and where (or when) I can find it?
[10:06] <nomed> even with xfmedia
[10:06] <gino> speedtouch usb drivers ?
[10:06] <crimsun> mcquaid: install libcommoncpp2-1.3c2 and libcommoncpp2-1.3c2
[10:06] <jas_> crimsun Any other ideas?
[10:07] <TiMiDo> barbablues: from the mirrors
[10:07] <topyli> vidz: yes, that would be valuable on a server
[10:07] <crimsun> mcquaid: they're both in universe
[10:07] <linuxamoeba21> 2%!!!!!!!!!!!!111111!!!1!!!11
[10:07] <barbablues> can't find it
[10:07] <TiMiDo> http://tinyurl.com/74xlu barbablues
[10:07] <stjepan> which distro do you recommend for programmer and Linux expert? Slackware vs Ubuntu? I like apt, I do not like swaret, slapt-get, tgz
[10:07] <phiqtion> servers are getting HAMMERED :O
[10:07] <vidz> EnsignRedshirt: Also, /var gets written to very often. What happens if that filesystem gets corrupt and it is the same partition as /home and /boot? Well I guess everything is screwed
[10:07] <mcquaid> crimsun, uh you just said the same file twice?
[10:07] <linuxamoeba21> stjepan, ubuntu is a great mix
[10:07] <nalioth> stjepan: then use ubuntu
[10:07] <TiMiDo> that's the link to get the breeze release barbablues
[10:07] <vidz> topyli: No, that is valuable on a desktop AND a server
[10:07] <crimsun> mcquaid: libccrtp1-1.3c2
[10:07] <something_else> I dont know about what needs to be updated, however when running gnome-volume-manager in terminal it states my external usb hdd cannot be mounted, when oddly it is possible in hoary, and I can manually mount
[10:07] <stjepan> ubuntu is for beginners and fools
[10:08] <crimsun> mcquaid: breezy has 1.3.1-3ubuntu4 >> 1.3.0
[10:08] <topyli> stjepan: looks like you're recommending ubuntu or debian to yourself :)
[10:08] <something_else> Im assuming anything new might fix this
[10:08] <jas_> crimsun Any other ideas?
[10:08] <phiqtion> stjepan: like you :D
[10:08] <Peps> I would like to upgrade to Kubuntu breezy, but think it is best to fix the KDE menu problem first - for some time I am unable to make any changes in it - can someone point to me how to "reset" it?
[10:08] <barbablues> TiMiDo, I can only find the CDs, not the DVD
[10:08] <crimsun> jas_: post it on a Web site
[10:08] <zcat[1] > stjepan: no, ubuntu is for ppl that want stuff to work and don't want to mess around for days to get things working
[10:08] <something_else> stjepan, I went from a year in slackware to ubuntu, does this make me stupid?
[10:08] <nomed> something_else, i feel something changed in breezy's hal
[10:08] <vidz> unlike the genoo crowd
[10:08] <TiMiDo> there's no dvds out yet barbablues
[10:08] <mcquaid> crimsun, yes i see that but it needs ccrtp-1.3.4'
[10:08] <something_else> like what nomed?
[10:08] <topyli> stjepan: no, many experienced debian users have moved to ubuntu
[10:08] <gino> it seems to have some debian packages in ubuntu ?
[10:08] <EnsignRedshirt> vidz: I see. I had planned on making /home a separate partition.  Perhaps, /home, /var, and / (i.e. everything else) is reasonable?
[10:08] <TiMiDo> gino: yes
[10:09] <something_else> are any of you still in hoary/
[10:09] <linuxamoeba21> soemthing_else, yeah
[10:09] <crimsun> mcquaid: can you hold off til dapper opens?
[10:09] <TiMiDo> ubuntu is based on debian, so almost everything is from debian gino
[10:09] <nalioth> gino: ubuntu is based on debian source
[10:09] <something_else> amoeba could you print something for me
[10:09] <linuxamoeba21> sure
[10:09] <barbablues> ok, anyone knows when the DVDs will be released?
[10:09] <mcquaid> i guess sure, but i didn't think they'd backport libs
[10:09] <crimsun> mcquaid: alternately you can uupdate to create your own deb, but you need to be familiar with Debian packaging
[10:09] <vidz> EnsignRedshirt: /boot 50-100MB partition, /, /home, /, /usr, ,/tmp are the best for system security and stability
[10:09] <something_else> ok can u gimme output of /etc/hal/fdi/policy/preferences.fdi
[10:10] <glick> Tidus, no i dont get any errors
[10:10] <Peps> I would like to upgrade to Kubuntu breezy, but think it is best to fix the KDE menu problem first - for some time I am unable to make any changes in it - can someone point to me how to "reset" it?
[10:10] <topyli> gino: all ubuntu packages are built on ubuntu. ubuntu does come from the debian foundations though
[10:10] <nomed> something_else, i still need to figure out what exactly but for ex i can't use old hoary scripts i had in /etc/hal/device.d
[10:10] <gino> as make make menuconfig
[10:10] <vidz> EnsignRedshirt: / /var /usr /tmp /boot /home
[10:10] <mcquaid> crimsun, well once dapper opens, can i use jdong's script to backport it? not sure if that works with libs
[10:10] <linuxamoeba21> doesnt exist...?
[10:10] <omer> Anyone here had idea how to install ubuntu when you have win 98, and the only boot device is hardidsk?
[10:10] <something_else> it doesnt exist?
[10:10] <something_else> hmm interesting
[10:10] <TiMiDo> omer: from a floppy
[10:10] <crimsun> mcquaid: I don't know, I avoid backports generally.
[10:11] <daysleper> great stuff guys .. congratz with the release - i've downloaded it from bitorrent and looking forward to upgrading ... :)
[10:11] <mcquaid> crimsun, hmm, so what were you suggesting about dapper then?
[10:11] <something_else> thank you amoeba
[10:11] <omer> There is option to install rom fluppy?
[10:11] <syntaxerror64> daysleper, i just installed and so far so good :)
[10:11] <crimsun> mcquaid: when it opens, we'll push it in
[10:11] <barbablues> omer, if you have a cd but can't boot from it try SBM (smart boot manager)
[10:11] <mcquaid> to breezy? cool
[10:11] <crimsun> mcquaid: no, to dapper
[10:11] <gino> do u see speedtouch usb packages ?
[10:12] <TvM> how can i solve these problem?? http://pastebin.com/392652
[10:12] <EnsignRedshirt> vidz: Thanks.  By the way, what is a reasonable size for /tmp?
[10:12] <topyli> omer: i really don't know any other way except the cd
[10:12] <mcquaid> oh, well i thought i'd have to backport it then, or i'd be mixing sources
[10:12] <P8ntKid> Can someone help me? I have no sound in any of the videos i watch :(
[10:12] <barbablues> SBM it's a bootmanager on a floppy, you can boot a cd even if your BIOS can't
[10:12] <omer> I have laptoop withnothing exept harddisk.
[10:12] <BiSK-8> hello
[10:12] <vidz> EnsignRedshirt: I set 1-2GB normally
[10:12] <barbablues> if u have 1
[10:12] <topyli> omer: i would install debian woody base install from floppies and upgrade to ubuntu breezy
[10:12] <omer> So there is no chise except buy CD
[10:13] <omer> That can work? upgrade form debian to buntu?
[10:13] <crimsun> P8ntKid: which player are you using?
[10:13] <omer> *ubuntu
[10:13] <Polis> I wanted to know, does breezy support SATA discs?
[10:13] <topyli> omer: from an old debian i think it would work
[10:13] <crimsun> TvM: check the media and the physical hardware
[10:13] <crimsun> Polis: yes
[10:13] <nalioth> mcquaid: you can build from source easily and not cause any trouble with your ubuntu (it's non ubuntu binaries that cause fits)
[10:13] <nalioth> Polis: yes it does
[10:13] <Peps> I would like to upgrade to Kubuntu breezy, but think it is best to fix the KDE menu problem first - for some time I am unable to make any changes in it - can someone point to me how to "reset" it?
[10:13] <topyli> omer: because just about every package would be upgraded
[10:13] <BiSK-8> i just installed breezy, but i have a few probs: 1) apt-get wont work..... seems that the sources.list is broken.... 2)totem wont work 3) the pppoe dosent start a boot time so i ust configure it every time. what can i do?
[10:13] <Polis> thx
[10:13] <Davey> Peps, try #kubuntu
[10:14] <mcphail> mcquaid, checkinstall is a useful tool
[10:14] <omer> you know from which version?
[10:14] <mcquaid> ok well i'll wait for dapper or i'll give checkinstall a shot
[10:14] <Peps> Davey: very slow over there
[10:14] <TiMiDo> dapper it's gonna take a bit
[10:14] <virgule> I want to change sources.list server -- The us.archive.ubuntu.com is way too slow for me -- How do I do that?
[10:14] <mcquaid> don't know why i'm weary of using it with libs but nothing else i have installed uses that anywyas
[10:14] <TiMiDo> virgule: apt-setup
[10:14] <Davey> Peps, better than the non-answer here, no? :)
[10:14] <EnsignRedshirt> vidz: Thanks.  I take a look at my current system for guesstimating sizes for the rest of the partitions.  Ciao.
[10:14] <nomed> virgule, today for sure :)
[10:14] <EnsignRedshirt> *i'll
[10:15] <Loevborg> virgule, there's a menu item "repositories"
[10:15] <BiSK-8> can any1 help me plz?
[10:15] <TvM> crimsun its an HP dv4165 with a liightscribe driver...i dont have any media inside..
[10:15] <Loevborg> virgule, ... in synpatic that is
[10:15] <TiMiDo> BiSK-8: try asking
[10:15] <crimsun> TvM: so what's the issue?
[10:15] <linuxamoeba21> virgule, also, it's at /etc/apt/sources.list
[10:15] <enyc> bisk: maybe ;-)
[10:15] <P8ntKid> crimsun: In all of them. I have tried mplayer, xine, nautron, and totem. They all play the video. But just no sound.
[10:15] <german> hi!
[10:15] <TiMiDo> hi german
[10:15] <BiSK-8> i just installed breezy, but i have a few probs: 1) apt-get wont work..... seems that the sources.list is broken.... 2)totem wont work 3) the pppoe dosent start a boot time so i ust configure it every time. what can i do?
[10:16] <TvM> crimsun i get that msg every 2 s
[10:16] <nalioth> BiSK-8: see /topic
[10:16] <german> what sgud I install to play mp3?
[10:16] <enyc> p8nt:  what   audio/video codec used?
[10:16] <nalioth> ubotu: tell german about mp3
[10:16] <TiMiDo> !tell german about mp3
[10:16] <crimsun> TvM: where do you get it?
[10:16] <TiMiDo> bla
[10:16] <TvM> i cant go to any terminal...only can use kde
[10:16] <TvM> crimsun in store
[10:16] <i3dmaster> which file defines HISTFILESIZE and HISTSIZE?
[10:16] <MrMaDSeN> howcome I cant install ubuntu 5.04 or 5.10 on this pc... it stalls during config af apt source
[10:16] <TiMiDo> TvM: can u do ctrl alt f1?
[10:16] <crimsun> TvM: ..."in store"?
[10:17] <virgule> apt-setup is aking for a Mirror hostname -- hmmmm?!?!?
[10:17] <P8ntKid> crimsun: Well, i just closed XMMS and now i have sound...
[10:17] <crimsun> virgule: read the topic
[10:17] <enyc> mrma:   ?network problem?
[10:17] <BiSK-8> nalioth: whyy read the topic?
[10:17] <Davey> has anyone managed to get Xinerama working for ATI working with Breezy? is it possible with the new drivers?
[10:17] <mcphail> MrMaDSeN: it is just because the severs are being battered
[10:17] <TvM> yes i can but i cant use it...because the msg is always appearing
[10:17] <crimsun> P8ntKid: by default XMMS hogs the sound device.
[10:17] <nalioth> BiSK-8: it answers your apt-get question
[10:17] <german> nalioth, TiMiDo , thanks!!!
[10:17] <crimsun> P8ntKid: you need to set the output to ALSA
[10:17] <MrMaDSeN> mcphail, sure ?
[10:17] <infernall> Davey, Im on xinerama with ATI right now :)
[10:17] <infernall> Dual 19's
[10:17] <mcphail> MrMaDSeN: yes
[10:17] <Davey> infernall, really?! can I get your config?
[10:17] <Davey> infernall, same here :D
[10:17] <virgule> crimson: thanks.. I noticed. I just want to change us.archive.ubuntu.com to a server near me
[10:17] <Davey> what graphics card?
[10:17] <MrMaDSeN> should i try without ethernet cable in?
[10:17] <sybor> que tal
[10:18] <Davey> infernall, I can only get the "Big Desktop" to work in Breezy
[10:18] <casimir> are there any known hangups with java, which repository should I use for breezy java upgrades
[10:18] <silent_scream> does anybody know how sagem fast 800, can work in breezy?
[10:18] <nalioth> ubotu: tell casimir about java
[10:18] <BiSK-8> nalioth: no it dosent....
[10:18] <mcphail> MrMaDSeN: could do. Don't know if it will help.
[10:18] <enyc> mrma: could do....
[10:18] <mcquaid> a feature i miss in synaptic is, if i install a proggie and it requires a bunch of stuff, i swear there used to be an option to remove orphaned stuff when uninstalling
[10:18] <BiSK-8> i didnt upgrade, i installed from a cd
[10:18] <jas_> crimsun I don't know a place that I could put the file..
[10:19] <enyc> mrma: depends what the problem is ;-)
[10:19] <mcquaid> does kde's adept have that feature?
[10:19] <P8ntKid> crimsun: How do i do that?
[10:19] <mcphail> MrMaDSeN: you could also drop to a terminal and try killing the process
[10:19] <nalioth> BiSK-8: the servers are getting hammered today. that may be why your apt isng working
[10:19] <etnoy> is it possible to upgrade to breezy w/ a CD? I have a lot of boxes at home, and downloading breezy on all machines is a bit too heavy
[10:19] <crimsun> P8ntKid: change the preferences>plugin
[10:19] <TiMiDo> etnoy: yes
[10:19] <mcquaid> glad i did breezy last week ;)
[10:19] <MrMaDSeN> mcphail, just wondering if anyone else asked that particular question in here too :)
[10:19] <TiMiDo> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Archive
[10:19] <nalioth> etnoy: yes it is, use "apt-cdrom"
[10:19] <P8ntKid> crimsun: For xmms?
[10:19] <BiSK-8> nalioth: no its not caz of that, it sais the package is obsolete
[10:20] <silent_scream> does anybody know how sagem fast 800, can work in breezy???
[10:20] <occy> crimsun, they nuked the old beep-media-player skin. :(
[10:20] <mcphail> MrMaDSeN: i've just joined, but an apt-get update took about 5 minutes!
[10:20] <TvM> can i disable atapi??
[10:20] <nalioth> BiSK-8: ah. well lots of that goin on
[10:20] <etnoy> nalioth: okay, so I just insert the new breezy cd and go?
[10:20] <occy> crimsun, (heh, and left the old preview in place for it)
[10:20] <nalioth> etnoy: yes, your gui should pop up and ask if you want to upgrade
[10:20] <crimsun> occy: I nuked it and didn't update the preview by accident.
[10:20] <MrMaDSeN> mcphail, oki
[10:20] <etnoy> nalioth: perfect!
[10:20] <occy> crimsun, grrr, it's YOU I can blame!%@#%#@%
[10:20] <occy> heh
[10:20] <zenlinuxNH> any news about whether there will be an "unofficial ubuntu starter guide" for breezy?
[10:20] <etnoy> not mentioned anywhere ;)
[10:21] <gino> silent_scream,  i have the same question with speedtouch usb modem
[10:21] <occy> crimsun, the old theme was inspiration for occy.net !
[10:21] <occy> :)
[10:21] <crimsun> occy: which old theme?
[10:21] <Davey> is it just me, or does Breezys Thunderbird feel like its a WINE app?
[10:21] <crimsun> occy: the debian one?
[10:21] <occy> crimsun, the old beep-media-player theme.
[10:21] <nalioth> zenlinuxNH: there will be an official starter guide
[10:21] <occy> crimsun, nod
[10:21] <Davey> like its running the wrong UI inside of the window decorations
[10:21] <BiSK-8> nalioth: and what abt totem?
[10:21] <nalioth> ubotu: tell zenlinuxNH about ubuntuguide
[10:21] <silent_scream> gino,that make two of us
[10:21] <cyberix> Anyone running Breezy with "Matrox Millennium G450 dualhead"?
[10:21] <BiSK-8> nalioth: it sais that its missing plugins
[10:21] <crimsun> occy: it was better to have a Ubuntu-oriented one (requested)
[10:21] <jas_> crimsun I don't know a place that I could put the file..
[10:21] <squid0> hello all
[10:22] <cyberix> It messes up my virtual consoles 1-6
[10:22] <nalioth> BiSK-8: so install them
[10:22] <squid0> now this may seem a bit simple, but...
[10:22] <silent_scream> gino, are trying by eagle-usb?
[10:22] <stevencarson> i am trying to reinstall the packages via apt-get and everything is failing saying 'depends libesd0'???
[10:22] <graabein> hello
[10:22] <zenlinuxNH> nalioth: thanks
[10:22] <occy> crimsun, I can understand that for default...  do you have a copy of the old one?
[10:22] <marsh> hi. anyone know if theres a way to read ntfs yet?
[10:22] <gino> yes and  usb modems are not very much accepted , here
[10:22] <squid0> are there any huge benefits of using 5.10?
[10:22] <BiSK-8> nalioth: how
[10:22] <BiSK-8> ?
[10:22] <P8ntKid> crimsun: ???
[10:22] <Davey> actually, it *is* using the wrong UI, its using the Gnome default with the green and not the Clearlooks Deepsky :)
[10:22] <nalioth> marsh: reading ntfs has been doable for a long time
[10:22] <zenlinuxNH> !faq
[10:22] <ubotu> methinks faq is The Ubuntu FAQ Guide: select System -> Help (in Breezy), or http://doc.ubuntu.com/gnome/faqi386/C/
[10:22] <squid0> ie. any really killer features?
[10:22] <silent_scream> it is supposed to be a help channel althought
[10:22] <i3dmaster> which file /quit
[10:22] <nalioth> ubotu: tell marsh about ntfs
[10:22] <crimsun> occy: it's retrievable from the orig.tar.gz of the Debian tarball, which you'll need to grab from packages.debian.org/beep-media-player
[10:22] <Davey> guess thats what I get for trying to use my system during the upgrade
[10:22] <nalioth> BiSK-8: use synaptic
[10:23] <occy> crimsun, k, danke
[10:23] <marsh> on an apt-get basis
[10:23] <marsh> ?
[10:23] <crimsun> P8ntKid: secondary-click, preferences
[10:23] <Christophe971> j0
[10:23] <gino> locate usbview
[10:23] <BiSK-8> nalioth: where do i download them from?
[10:23] <crimsun> P8ntKid: or I think it's Options> Preferences for XMMS
[10:23] <jas_> crimsun I don't know a place that I could put the file..
[10:23] <mcquaid> hmm i installed commonccp in apt and when compiling ccrtp it says:
[10:23] <mcquaid> checking for commoncpp2 version >= 1.3.0... not found
[10:23] <crimsun> mcquaid: you need the -dev files
[10:23] <nalioth> BiSK-8: join #kubuntu-offtopic please
[10:23] <Christophe971> do i'm dreaming or there is NOT live/install dvd of breezy available  ???
[10:23] <crimsun> file^
[10:23] <virgule> install commoncpp2-dev
[10:23] <nalioth> mcquaid: build it
[10:23] <crimsun> Christophe971: you're dreaming.
[10:23] <P8ntKid> crimsun: And then change the outputplugin to alsa?
[10:24] <crimsun> P8ntKid: yes
[10:24] <Christophe971> http://se.releases.ubuntu.com/5.10/ crimsun
[10:24] <gino> pppd call adsl
[10:24] <mcquaid> oops i should know that by now thx
[10:24] <Christophe971> crimsun: url ?
[10:24] <crimsun> Christophe971: topic?
[10:24] <P8ntKid> crimsun: I did that.
[10:24] <Christophe971> crimsun: dvd/install
[10:24] <crimsun> se mirror was having problems syncing.
[10:24] <jas_> crimsun I don't know a place that I could put the file..
[10:24] <Christophe971> crimsun: live/install
[10:24] <crimsun> use mirror.cs.umn.edu
[10:24] <Christophe971> crimsun: ye
[10:24] <Christophe971> yes
[10:25] <crimsun> jas_: sec
[10:25] <P8ntKid> crimsun: It still wont let me play the video when xmms is open
[10:25] <stevencarson> how do i burn my files to cd from command line - i think a fresh install is the only way forward
[10:25] <squid0> hi fellas what is a good open-source virtual machine program?
[10:25] <stevencarson> breezy has bust me
[10:25] <domenique> hello
[10:25] <hubuntu> squid0 qemu
[10:25] <lllmanulll> squid0, qemu ?
[10:25] <TvM> no solution for my prob....
[10:26] <squid0> hubuntu, lllmanulll , thanks, i'll check it
[10:26] <mohkohn> sudo apt-get install realplayer isn't working. It asks me to download rp8_linux20_libc6_i386_cs2_rpm.
[10:26] <mohkohn> But this seems to be an out of date file.
[10:26] <domenique> i upgraded to breezy and everything was fine, but after a reboot i can't get into X anymore
[10:26] <Christophe971> crimsun: no torrents nowhere
[10:26] <Christophe971> mirror.cs.umn.edu is down
[10:27] <crimsun> Christophe971: it is not down, it's just swamped
[10:27] <mohkohn> When I go to  http://scopes.real.com/real/player/unix/unix.html all I can find is RealPlayer Gold
[10:27] <virgule> now I want a fancy bash prompt but the PS1 syntax is confusing the heck out of me -- I want a bright username then a blue PWD
[10:27] <domenique> when i do a startx it says : /usr/lib/gnome-2.so.0 : wrong ELF header
[10:27] <Christophe971> damned
[10:27] <Rev-Marc> Someone said to edit "xorg.conf" to turnoff my touchpad but I don't know how to do that, please help
[10:27] <occy> crimsun, wow, there's another cool skin in there.
[10:27] <gino> mohkohn,  it seems to be *.deb instead of *.rpm
[10:27] <occy> crimsun, I smell a new revision of occy.net coming
[10:27] <occy> *chuckle*
[10:27] <crimsun> P8ntKid: did you modify ~/.asoundrc or /etc/asound.conf on your own?
[10:27] <crimsun> occy: which?
[10:28] <P8ntKid> crimsun: No, why?
[10:28] <stevencarson> i am trying to reinstall the packages via apt-get and everything is failing saying 'depends libesd0'???
[10:28] <crimsun> occy: the blue one?
[10:28] <occy> crimsun, sec
[10:28] <occy> crimsun, nod
[10:28] <mohkohn> Normally (with hoary) the deb installed the rpm automagically
[10:28] <crimsun> occy: that's non-free
[10:28] <occy> crimsun, the darker blue one
[10:28] <occy> crimsun, really?
[10:28] <domenique> when i do a startx it says : /usr/lib/gnome-2.so.0 : wrong ELF header ? and when gdm tries to start it givesz a seg fault ? anyone ????
[10:28] <will_> Can someone point me in the direction of how i would stop ath0 starting on startup? Checked google, help wiki etc. and can't find anything!
[10:28] <mohkohn> all you typed was apt-get install realplayer
[10:28] <crimsun> occy: that's why the Debian tarball ships the Debian skin as the default. Read README.Debian
[10:28] <Xenguy> I am getting this error on the login screen...
[10:28] <Xenguy> "Configuration is not correct The configuration file contains an invalid command line for the login dialog, so running the default command.  Please fix your configuration."
[10:29] <Christophe971> is there someone there who can DCC send me a i386 breezy live/install DVD ?
[10:29] <Rev-Marc> Someone said to edit "xorg.conf" to turnoff my touchpad but I don't know how to do that, please help
[10:29] <something_else> hmm gnome-volume-manager thinks my hard disk is not removable
[10:29] <Xenguy> How can I fix the error above?
[10:29] <something_else> well I can see why
[10:29] <occy> crimsun, ahhh, well, I've already been "inspired" by it.
[10:29] <occy> :)
[10:29] <crimsun> P8ntKid: that would explain why dmix doesn't work
[10:29] <crimsun> occy: whatever works :-)
[10:29] <occy> crimsun, I can't unsee a thing.
[10:29] <P8ntKid> crimsun: What should i do then?
[10:29] <occy> hehe
[10:29] <crimsun> P8ntKid: close XMMS
[10:29] <Christophe971> is there someone there who can DCC send me a i386 breezy live/install DVD ?
[10:29] <stevencarson> how do i burn files to cd from command line pleeeeeez?  breezy has broken my gui
[10:30] <dseomn> how do I use the new oem installer seed?
[10:30] <domenique> when i do a startx it says : /usr/lib/gnome-2.so.0 : wrong ELF header ? and when gdm tries to start it givesz a seg fault ? anyone plz ?
[10:30] <stevencarson> must do fresh install rather than upgrade
[10:30] <crimsun> dseomn: there are instructions in the announcement
[10:30] <dseomn> crimsun: thanks, I'll look again
[10:30] <Christophe971> stevencarson: have you done a dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg ?
[10:30] <topyli> virgule: it's all configurable of course. my .bashrc: http://siltala.net/comp/bashrc . hack away! :)
[10:30] <P8ntKid> crimsun: I did,
[10:31] <stevencarson> Christoph - yes xserver is not there
[10:31] <Kleggas> I installed breezy today and can't login to TLS protected ftp's (like my own) with lftp. could do that on hoary out of the box I think. any package needed?
[10:31] <stevencarson> my upgrade via synaptic failed half way thru
[10:31] <jas_> crimsun did you forget about me again :(
[10:31] <concept10> Is there a way to interact with uboto from outside of irc?
[10:32] <budluva> stevencarson, i tried upgrade via synaptic yesterday, stalled on libc6
[10:32] <gino> check /etc/apt/sources.list
[10:32] <marsh> ubotu - how come I run the script & the machine still reports a 'read only file system'?
[10:32] <ubotu> marsh: I'm sorry, i don't know what you're talking about
[10:32] <crimsun> jas_: no, I'm very busy
[10:32] <Feral_Kid> In 5.10, does the multiverse repoistory still exist?
[10:32] <budluva> stevencarson, change your sources.list to read breezy instead of hoary apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade
[10:32] <topyli> virgule: correction: http://siltala.net/comp/dot-bashrc
[10:32] <crimsun> Feral_Kid: yes
[10:32] <jas_> crimsun Sorry I just had to joke with ya hehe
[10:32] <budluva> stevencarson, upgrade via apt worked great
[10:32] <crimsun> jas_: did you post it on a Web site?
[10:32] <marsh> i just ran the winmac_fstab... but the filesystem is still read only... :(
[10:32] <concept10> nalioth, you awake?
[10:32] <stevencarson> budluva: tried that and libesd0 is not being found
[10:33] <jas_> crimsun I don't know a place that I could put the file on the web...
[10:33] <stevencarson> budluva: nothing will install
[10:33] <Feral_Kid> crimsun: Where can I find that in the wiki so I can see what to add...
[10:33] <zcat[1] > marsh: unmount and mount it again, so it uses the new fstab options?
[10:33] <marsh> i have to update anything?
[10:33] <budluva> stevencarson, dont know what to tell you my upgrade worked fine
[10:33] <crimsun> Feral_Kid: wiki.ubuntu.com?
[10:33] <Christophe971> stevencarson: have you done a dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg ?
[10:33] <stevencarson> just want to back up  my files now and do fresh install
[10:33] <budluva> except now updating while servers are been slammed was not a good idea :P
[10:33] <Christophe971> stevencarson: Xcuse
[10:33] <Christophe971> is there someone there who can DCC send me a i386 breezy live/install DVD ?
[10:33] <Christophe971> francois: yo le francais
[10:33] <francois> yo
[10:33] <budluva> Christophe971, whats wrong with the torrent?
[10:33] <Davey> infernall, still around?
[10:34] <P8ntKid> crimsun: What should i do now?
[10:34] <gino> plait
[10:34] <Christophe971> budluva: i can't find it
[10:34] <francois> lu tt le monde
[10:34] <stevencarson> does anybody know how to burn home dir to cd from command line?
[10:34] <domenique> when i do a startx it says : /usr/lib/gnome-2.so.0 : wrong ELF header ? and when gdm tries to start it givesz a seg fault ? anyone plz ??
[10:34] <Juhaz> Christophe971, the dvd isn't out yet, takes a week or so
[10:34] <Christophe971> Juhaz: okayyy
[10:34] <budluva> dvd is out
[10:34] <Christophe971> arf
[10:34] <Christophe971> 2/1
[10:34] <Christophe971> out/in
[10:34] <telonir> how can i tell "screen" to open 4 "consoles" with specific progs running in them?
[10:34] <Christophe971> budluva: give me a url, all url i'm watching is without dvd
[10:35] <teimu> hi #ubuntu, i just loaded up the live CD, but before i could connect to the net, i had to configure my ethernet card with IPv4 (it only gave me IPv6 by default). im wondering tho, is a way to do this from the command line? i used the little 'configure
[10:35] <Christophe971> teimu: yes
[10:35] <Christophe971> telonir: yes
[10:35] <bonvenon> does anyone know why my synaptics touchpad don't work if I don't configure my usb mouse as /dev/input/mice ?
[10:35] <will_> arghhhh how can it be so hard just to stop ath0 starting at bootup, windows can do it in two clicks :(
[10:35] <budluva> breezy-dvd-i386.iso.torrent    12-Oct-2005 20:14   57K  Install/live DVD for PC (Intel x86) computers (BitTorrent download)
[10:35] <gino> teimu netcardconfig
[10:35] <telonir> yes?
[10:35] <Christophe971> budluva: where
[10:36] <Hughie> how come when i go to donwload something in synaptics it says rate is unknown and it never downloads?
[10:36] <mwe> will_: did you look into /etc/network/interfaces?
[10:36] <mcphail> Hughie: today is not a good day for downloading
[10:36] <budluva> hrmm, seems to be a daily build but should be considered final
[10:36] <budluva> http://cdimage.ubuntulinux.org/dvd/current/?C=M;O=A
[10:36] <Davey> if I currently had ubuntu-desktop installed, do I need to do as the wiki says and reinstall it?
[10:36] <Hughie> oh okay, must be why thne ^^
[10:36] <Hughie> thats hat i wondered
[10:36] <amortal> Where should one file potential fs / kernel bugs?
[10:36] <Hughie> thanks
[10:36] <crimsun> will_: remove the auto ath0 line
[10:37] <will_> mwe: yes, I've commented out the ath0 but it didn't do it
[10:37] <topyli> stevencarson: you could install the "burn" package, or just use this script: http://siltala.net/comp/burndir.sh
[10:37] <hubuntu> anyone: is there a list over synced repositories for breezy update from hoary?
[10:37] <Rev-Marc> is the 64bit dvd torrent file available and if so where can I get it?
[10:37] <crimsun> P8ntKid: what's the issue?
[10:37] <teimu> gino, apparently, netcardconfig is not a recognized command
[10:37] <graabein> guys, how do i find conflicting packages that is mention in the pre-upgrade part of the wiki?
[10:37] <jas_> crimsun I don't know a place that I could put the file on the web...
[10:37] <P8ntKid> crimsun: remember, i cant get the sound to work when xmms is open.
[10:37] <will_> it says mapping hotplug, script grep, map ath0 and i've commented all <--- that out
[10:38] <crimsun> jas_: e-mail it to crimsunkg at yahoo
[10:38] <P8ntKid> crimsun: I also cant get the sound to work at all with the firefox mplayerplugin
[10:38] <foxiness> can i use smartlink on breezy ?
[10:38] <topyli> stevencarson: oh, let me rename it so it will display right in your browser
[10:38] <marsh> obotu - sorry mate... possibly need a bit of handholding... still no joy on reading the ntfs - could i be having problems because it's a USB drive?
[10:38] <telonir> any ideasa?
[10:38] <topyli> http://siltala.net/comp/burndir-shell-txt
[10:39] <foxiness> i want to upgrade but if it broken i can not access the internet anyone?
[10:39] <topyli> stevencarson: ^^
[10:39] <topyli> foxiness: you can use the cd if you can get it on another machine
[10:39] <Davey> oooh, forget Gnome 2.12, theres a new version of Tux-Racer! :)
[10:39] <something_else> I forgot who I was talking to earlier, but it seems gnome-volume-manager doesnt automount if its not "removable"
[10:39] <grndslm> is it possible to speed up the upload on gnome-btdownload????  it won't go above 33kbps and I've got quite a bit more than that
[10:39] <jas_> crimsun: k I sent it.
[10:40] <Rev-Marc> is the 64bit dvd torrent file available and if so where can I get it?
[10:40] <marsh> obotu - you still about? or you given up on me
[10:40] <marsh> ?
[10:40] <MFen> all the upgrade instructions i've seen say "change hoary to breezy and run update; dist-upgrade".. but frankly the archive and mirrors are pretty overloaded and that'll take forever, regardless.  i got the entire install cd, isn't there an easy way to upgrade off of that?
[10:40] <teimu> sorry to repeat myself, but is there a way to configure your netword card on the command line?
[10:40] <something_else> yes there is
[10:40] <gelberg> just upgraded to breezy - kaffeine now won't play dvds, says "no decoders found to handle stream, might need to install corresponding plugins". do have libdvdcss2 installed.
[10:40] <teimu> enlighten me
[10:40] <something_else> ifconfig
[10:40] <something_else> iwconfig for wireless
[10:40] <something_else> and route
[10:40] <TFP> hi
[10:40] <something_else> of course dhclient for dhcp
[10:41] <TFP> how can i look which partitions i have in my computer?
[10:41] <something_else> df
[10:41] <something_else> no wait
[10:41] <MFen> teimu: well, the more debian way would be "man interfaces; vi /etc/network/interfaces" and ifdown/up to suit
[10:41] <Knorrie> marsh: obotu is a bot
[10:41] <MFen> teimu: this is essentially what the gui widget does, though
[10:41] <something_else> try fdisk -l
[10:41] <topyli> TFP: sudo fdisk -l /dev/hda for example
[10:41] <bimberi> TFP: sudo fdisk -l
[10:41] <TFP> thx
[10:41] <gelberg> perhaps i should try #kubuntu
[10:42] <Tyler> i cant get 3d working, its on mesa, i installed the ati drivers and configured them, it says ati in xorg.conf and i set it to ati in dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[10:42] <P8ntKid> Can anybody help me with some sound problems? I cant get the sound to work with the mplayer plugin thing with firefox period. But i can get the sound to work if i download videos and play them in totem or xine if XMMS is closed.
[10:42] <something_else> how do I get hold of banshee
[10:42] <teimu> ok. thanks for the help =)
[10:42] <mensur> i have found a small bug in console i 5.10 =)
[10:42] <Patrik88> why run comands with sudo before???? anyone
[10:42] <topyli> Tyler: the ati driver is the open source one. you probably want fglrx or whatever it is
[10:42] <mensur> but quite distrubring
[10:42] <bimberi> Patrik88: to get superuser privs
[10:43] <jas_> Patrik88 Its super user do its like root.
[10:43] <Tyler> no i installed my ati dirvers off ati.com
[10:43] <marsh> Aaahhhh.... Anyone know anything about writing to NTFS?
[10:43] <crimsun> P8ntKid: add "ao=esd" to /etc/mplayer/mplayer.conf
[10:43] <topyli> Tyler: but you're not using it
[10:43] <bimberi> ubotu tell Patrik88 about rootsudo
[10:43] <Tyler> i also installed fglrx btw from synpatic
[10:43] <ddd2> Does Ubuntu run on imac G5??
[10:43] <crimsun> jas_: I'll be quite lagged for a bit; telephone
[10:43] <Patrik88> thx
[10:43] <will_> any other ideas for disabling ath0 other than /etc/network/interfaces?
[10:43] <jas_> crimsun: Okay no worries.
[10:43] <bimberi> Patrik88: yw :)
[10:43] <graabein> breezy (sound): Audio Managment and Playback application [universe]
[10:43] <Tyler> topyli, so how do i use it?
[10:43] <ktogias> Patrik88: We have no privilege to run it as normal users...
[10:43] <miksu> cool 40 % upgrade
[10:43] <coz> is there a specific topic this evening or can we just bring something up?
[10:43] <mensur> marsh, there is a company which has developed a software which you can write to ntfs
[10:44] <Knorrie> marsh: no ntfs writing from linux
[10:44] <Loevborg> Damn, how do I burn an ISO using k3b or gnome's cd creator?
[10:44] <graabein> something_else, looks like it's in breezy universe
[10:44] <P8ntKid> crimsun: Its allready like that.
[10:44] <CPUnerd> what's up with imagemagik php library in ubuntu ? Doesn't respect the clipping path ?
[10:44] <topyli> Tyler: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg. then choose the fglrx driver when asked, otherwise keep hitting enter
[10:44] <Patrik88> bimberi: yw??
[10:44] <marsh> Knorrie - why do others tell me there is... I'm getting mixed messages... :(
[10:44] <something_else> graabein, ill have a look cheers
[10:44] <Rev-Marc> is the 64bit dvd torrent file available and if so where can I get it?
[10:44] <mensur> has anyone more found any bug in console????
[10:44] <bimberi> Patrik88: you're welcome :)
[10:44] <Tyler> topyli, last time i had ati i chose ATi off that list and it worked fine, why do i need to choose fglrx?
[10:44] <Patrik88> oh, hehe sry
[10:45] <bimberi> :)
[10:45] <Knorrie> marsh: perhaps there are tools that allow some things, but its very experimental
[10:45] <mwright1night> Has anyone here used edubuntu?
[10:45] <marsh> mensur - you know who they are (the NTFS)?
[10:45] <miksu> loevberg in terminal, cdrecord *.iso dev/cdr01
[10:45] <Knorrie> marsh: M$
[10:45] <budluva> so nvidia-glx doesnt support tnt2/mach64 anymore? its now nvidia-glx-legacy?
[10:45] <something_else> bloody hell archives is slow
[10:45] <mcquaid> ok i'm trying to compile a kde app and getting:
[10:45] <mwright1night> How can I find out if edubuntu has a package called  TeachersPet or "Teachers Pet"
[10:45] <Rev-Marc> :(
[10:45] <mcquaid> configure: error: Set $QTDIR to the Qt directory, eg. /usr/lib/qt3
[10:45] <mcquaid> but i have the dev libs installed
[10:45] <topyli> Tyler: that's the proprietary, accelerated driver. it may be broken at any time, be aware of that, but that's the way with some video chip manufacturers who don't contribute free drivers for us
[10:46] <coz>  I have PCI, not agp nvidia fx 5200 how can I make this work in ubuntu breezy??
[10:46] <shinu> Loevborg: in k3b its in tools > cd
[10:46] <shinu> i think
[10:46] <amortal> Rev-Marc: http://se.releases.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/5.10/
[10:46] <Knorrie> marsh: so you risk losing all data when using them
[10:46] <MFen> mwright1night: from the system administration menu, bring up synaptic package manager, and search for something like "teachers"
[10:46] <jrr> the /. publicity is great, but the apt server load isn't -\
[10:46] <jrr> * =\
[10:46] <crimsun> mcquaid: you need to use --with-qt-dir=/usr/share/qt3
[10:46] <Tyler> grr i cantg get my ati dirvers to work, its set on mesa for some reas
[10:46] <Tyler> reason*
[10:46] <P8ntKid> crimsun: The sound doesnt play at all in firefox. IT plays in mplayer/zine/totem/nautrun outside of firefox when XMMS is closed.
[10:46] <Rev-Marc> amortal Thank You and God ZBless
[10:47] <mensur> does anyone else get this error when writing in console cd..  bash: cd..: command not found
[10:47] <Knorrie> mensur: use a space
[10:47] <mcquaid> crimsun, ok but i never had to do that before in hoary, just needed the libs
[10:47] <crimsun> P8ntKid: file a bug
[10:47] <Knorrie> mensur: cd ..
[10:47] <Loevborg> shinu, why the deuce didn't I find that? thansk.
[10:47] <mensur> Knorrie, will try
[10:47] <Blippe> marsh: there are two tools which i am aware of, but both of them r very experimental: http://linux-ntfs.sourceforge.net/status.html
[10:47] <mensur> thanx
[10:47] <mcquaid> or is it becuase i have qt3 and not qt4?
[10:47] <shinu> Loevborg: very well hidden isnt it? :)
[10:47] <crimsun> P8ntKid: http://launchpad.net/malone
[10:47] <Knorrie> mensur: cd.. works in dos, in unix cd is an external command
[10:47] <Davey> I have breezy! now for the reboot :D
[10:47] <bonvenon> can anyone help me get _both_ my synaptics touchpad and wacom tablet working simultaneously?
[10:47] <_jason> whats the command to see what version you have?
[10:47] <P8ntKid> crimsun: People allready have. Alot of people on the forums have the problem but havent fixed it either.
[10:47] <shinu> Loevborg: i only know because a few days ago i had the same problem and had to google around :P
[10:47] <daved> i have automake-1.4 and automake-1.7 binaries installed.. what's the approved method of letting an autogen.sh script know which one to use?
[10:48] <crimsun> P8ntKid: then there's nothing more we can do atm
[10:48] <jrr> are there *other* primary apt sources (or perhaps is us.archive.ubuntu a round-robin?)
[10:48] <crimsun> jrr: topic
[10:48] <|AmaTeuR|> get configure error "can't find x includes", how can i solve that/
[10:48] <|AmaTeuR|> ?
[10:48] <crimsun> |AmaTeuR|: install libx11-dev
[10:48] <crimsun> daved: set the alternative
[10:48] <LokeDK> where's ssh logs located? there's like nothing with ssh in /var/log/messages
[10:48] <crimsun> daved: man update-alternatives
[10:48] <|AmaTeuR|> crimsun:already installed
[10:48] <crimsun> LokeDK: /var/log/daemon.log
[10:49] <Tyler> how can i prevent it from saying its mesa? i installed the ati drivers right and set it to ati in dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and installed all the fglrx stuff off synaptic
[10:49] <graabein> guys, how do i find conflicting packages that is mentioned in the pre-upgrade part of the wiki?
[10:49] <crimsun> |AmaTeuR|: then it's looking for something specific, which is an extension, which means configure.in is broken and needs to be updated
[10:49] <topyli> Tyler: which card do you have? my radeon 9200 on my work box freezes the whole box with the fglrx driver
[10:49] <MFen> Blippe and marsh: linux-ntfs is very experimental. there's another one which is not.
[10:50] <crimsun> captive ntfs
[10:50] <bonvenon> anyone?
[10:50] <Tyler> topyli, i have a radeon 9200 as well
[10:50] <Tyler> topyli, i just tried the fglrx and it still says its mesa
[10:50] <mcquaid> crimsun i tried: ./configure --with-qt-dir=/usr/share/qt3 but still get: configure: error: Set $QTDIR to the Qt directory, eg. /usr/lib/qt3
[10:50] <MFen> yeah, that was the name. thanks, crimsun
[10:50] <mcquaid> also tried ./configure --prefix=/usr --with-qt-dir=/usr/share/qt3
[10:50] <Rev-Marc> What is "Jigdo" and is it faster or better that "Bittorent"?
[10:50] <topyli> Tyler: you're luckier than i am, my box is unusable if i boot x with this driver :)
[10:50] <crimsun> mcquaid: --prefix is where you want to install the package. You don't want to do that.
[10:50] <virgule> I such a weirdo --Im used to Hoary +kubuntu-desktop but I get tired of it. So I installed Kubuntu from scratch and found myself installing ubuntu-desktop..oh yeah..
[10:51] <Tyler> topyli, eh not really cuz it doesnt work :( i need 3d
[10:51] <crimsun> virgule: that's not weird at all. Next you get to try xubuntu-desktop.
[10:51] <mcquaid> ok i thought so thats why i tried that second
[10:51] <eracerbit> topyli: fglrx crashes me too
[10:51] <topyli> Tyler: just buy a matrox card like linux users have done always =)
[10:51] <MFen> Rev-Marc: i've never succeeded in using jigdo, but i can tell you that what you get isn't the same as what you'll download from bittorrent. i recommend bittorrent.
[10:51] <virgule> what is it?
[10:51] <horza> why cant i get fluxbox with apt-get?
[10:51] <crimsun> virgule: Xfce
[10:51] <Jemt> Greetings. Why can't I use 'http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/' as source for my backports any more ?
[10:51] <MFen> Rev-Marc: bittorrent is very fast, particularly now when everyone's using it
[10:51] <Jemt> I have also tried 'http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/dists/'
[10:51] <daved> crimsun: thanks :)
[10:51] <crimsun> mcquaid: I presume you have libqt3-mt-dev installed?
[10:52] <TylerDurden> so can anyone PLEASE help me get rid of mesa?
[10:52] <bimberi> Jemt: it's been discontinued
[10:52] <Syrra> hello
[10:52] <topyli> Jemt: mirrormax is dead
[10:52] <graabein> hmmmm think i'll wait a couple days to dist-upgrade
[10:52] <mcquaid> crimsun, yes
[10:52] <graabein> later
[10:52] <Jemt> bimberi: But I can access 'http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/dists/' using a browser
[10:52] <virgule> I love that one :) If only the font could be as nice as in KDE --That are sooooo BIG in GNOME and Xfce I stopped using these two. Lowering the sizes on help until I use a KDE apps then trhe fonts are microscopics.
[10:52] <bimberi> Jemt: yes, but it's probably empty, or the files to work with apt are no longer there
[10:53] <mcquaid> i've compiled a few kde apps in the past with hoary without issue
[10:53] <horza> anyone know how to install fluxbox? cant get it from apt-get :/
[10:53] <will_> what other network files are there other than /etc/network/interfaces that could be starting ath0 at startup please?
[10:53] <crimsun> mcquaid: do you have qt3-dev-tools-compat installed?
[10:53] <Rev-Marc> MFen thank You I still can't find a torrent file for the DVD releases the last website someone gave me only had the CD
[10:53] <Jemt> bimberi: What do I do then ?
[10:53] <Syrra> I've forgotten what the off topic channel is, could I have the channel name again please?
[10:53] <BockBilbo> hello
[10:53] <crimsun> mcquaid: and qt3-dev-tools?
[10:53] <bimberi> jemt use the official backports
[10:53] <Jemt> bimberi: Ubunto is nothing worth to me without backports
[10:53] <virgule> horza: do you have universe enable?
[10:53] <MFen> Rev-Marc: ah. well, i don't know about the dvd. i'm sure it's out there somewhere. i downloaded the cd torrent this morning.
[10:53] <bimberi> ubotu tell Jemt about backports
[10:53] <horza> virgule, il check
[10:53] <Jemt> bimberi: Are you talking about Universe and Multiverse ?
[10:53] <Rev-Marc> I have several computers in the Youth room that do not have internet
[10:53] <mcquaid> crimsun, yep
[10:53] <frankg> What's the default user for ubuntu - latest edition?
[10:53] <Jemt> bimberi: Oh, great!
[10:54] <Jemt> Thanks alot, bimberi
[10:54] <frankg> user/pass
[10:54] <cusco> hi im running the live cd... how do I check wich process is using port 80 ??
[10:54] <crimsun> frankg: whatever you configure it to be
[10:54] <bimberi> Jemt: no, and yw :)
[10:54] <eliphas_> any backport yet?
[10:54] <infernall> cusco, netstat -an --tcp | grep 80
[10:54] <frankg> crimsun, I'm using the live CD
[10:54] <crimsun> eliphas_: no.
[10:54] <gloria> my super hipebolic thermonuclear reactor computer has taken over my home comands and doesn't let me out
[10:54] <wRd> my ubuntu regularly freezes and then produced a a "ata command 0x35 timeout" the satamodule is "sata_via" ? does anyone know how to get rid of this problem?
[10:54] <BockBilbo> i need some help, just upgraded my server to breezy, and now cant connect to the mysql db of the server from my laptop. Ive checked the iptables config, and im using the script i used in hoary (that worked) and ive also checked if the mysql user for the laptop still exists, and it does..
[10:54] <crimsun> frankg: ubuntu/
[10:54] <eliphas_> thanks crimsun
[10:54] <BockBilbo> any idea?
[10:54] <infernall> cusco, nm, didnt read that right
[10:54] <horza> virgule, i didnt, testing now
[10:54] <topyli> horza: fluxbox is in universe
[10:54] <infernall> cusco, it may show something
[10:54] <frankg> crimsun, trying...
[10:54] <RustyJames> hello there i need a program that reminds me of birthdays. e.g. when i startup the system. iI would prefer something that reads the birthdays of the evolution data. any Ideas?
[10:54] <virgule> horza; run apt-get update before trying :)
[10:55] <horza> hehe
[10:55] <barnes_> I am having trouble connecting to the iternet on Breezy. I have a Dlink DWL 520. I tried getting it to work on the live version, and havn't tried installing it yet, cna anyone help?
[10:55] <MFen> RustyJames: i kinda like sunbird, but i have no idea if it integrates with Evolution (or even whether it's in breezy)
[10:55] <Syrra> the.. off topic channel ?
[10:55] <cusco> infernall: it shows the following:
[10:55] <cusco> ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ netstat -an --tcp | grep 80
[10:55] <cusco> tcp       53      0 <IP_ADDRESS>:33686     <IP_ADDRESS>:21        CLOSE_WAIT
[10:55] <MFen> sunbird has the advantage of being ics compliant
[10:55] <infernall> cusco, so nothing is using 80
[10:55] <cusco> er
[10:55] <topyli> Syrra: #ubuntu-offtopic, would you believe :)
[10:56] <virgule> If  I stop apt-get from instaling 238 packages would it resume where it stopped If I run the command again?
[10:56] <Syrra> well, I wasn't sure. Thank you topyli
[10:56] <MFen> topyli: boy does that sound like a recipe for abuse
[10:56] <barnes_> I am having trouble connecting to the iternet on Breezy. I have a Dlink DWL 520. I tried getting it to work on the live version, and havn't tried installing it yet, cna anyone help?
[10:56] <frankg> crimsun, ubuntu login screen says:  incorrect username and password.  must be typed with correct case.
[10:56] <RustyJames> MFen, does Sunbird have such a birthday reminder?
[10:56] <concept10> who maintains ubotu?
 [main]  error opening source socket! FATAL ERROR! Some other process is using this port!
[10:56] <jas_> crimsun: You forget about me now hehe :P
[10:56] <bimberi> virgule: yes
[10:56] <MFen> RustyJames: it's a general calendaring app, it has all the usual calendar stuff
[10:56] <cusco> infernall: <10/13/05@20:56:13> [main]  error opening source socket! FATAL ERROR! Some other process is using this port!
[10:56] <infernall> cusco, apache?
[10:56] <cusco> infernall: no :|
[10:56] <concept10> !wiki dlink520
[10:56] <barnes_> I am having trouble connecting to the iternet on Breezy. I have a Dlink DWL 520. I tried getting it to work on the live version, and havn't tried installing it yet, cna anyone help?
[10:56] <RustyJames> MFen, its part of the Mozilla products isnt it?
[10:56] <horza> virgule: thanks :D
[10:57] <bimberi> concept10: cafuego
[10:57] <infernall> cusco, what is it?
[10:57] <concept10> barnes_, goto the wiki
[10:57] <Skid> anyone notice that breezy changes your iface name?
[10:57] <MFen> RustyJames: yes, a relatively new one
[10:57] <crimsun> jas_: no, I just haven't had time to download the file
[10:57] <Skid> my wifi adapter now is eth2? :p
[10:57] <horza> virgule: im new to ubuntu, and i liked it :D
[10:57] <concept10> bimberi, he maintains it?
[10:57] <barnes_> Thanks concept10
[10:57] <jas_> crimsun: Ahhh gotcha Its okay I was updating some steam files anyways.
[10:57] <crimsun> frankg: ubuntu/  <-- this means the username is "ubuntu", and there is no password.
[10:57] <bimberi> concept10: i guess so, it runs on his server
[10:58] <frankg> crimsun, that's what I entered
[10:58] <cusco> infernall: its the shoutcast server
[10:58] <concept10> bimberi, okay, thanks
[10:58] <cusco> infernall: I would like to use port 80 instead of the default 8000
[10:58] <wRd> or is there are quick way to prove wheter the harddrive is not working ?
[10:58] <bimberi> concept10: yw :)
[10:58] <horza> virgule, is aterm in universe too?
[10:58] <RustyJames> MFen, but does it have this birthday functionallity? I searched this feature in Evolution but it doesnt seem to have it.
[10:58] <horza> tried to comile it from source, didnt want to
[10:58] <topyli> !info aterm
[10:58] <ubotu> aterm: (Afterstep XVT - a VT102 emulator for the X window system), section universe/x11, is optional. Version: 0.4.2-11 (breezy), Packaged size: 89 kB, Installed size: 280 kB
[10:58] <infernall> cusco, sorry im just going home from work now.  i do have a few shoutcast servers, and I know changing the port is a PITA
[10:59] <virgule> horza: you can use apt-cache search packagename to find out ;)
[10:59] <horza> :D
[10:59] <concept10> cafuego, I have a idea..could i pm you?
[10:59] <MFen> RustyJames: what specifically do you mean?
[10:59] <infernall> cusco, make sure shoutcast encoder and sc_serv are using different ports... like 81 and 80
[10:59] <cusco> PITA??
[10:59] <infernall> server on 80 of course
[10:59] <infernall> pain in the a..
[10:59] <petterah> hi, if i install ubuntu as server profile, and then kde-core, will i have default kde look then?
[10:59] <infernall> anyways, im leaving work now.
[10:59] <cusco> infernall: yes they are
[11:00] <cusco> infernall: Im sure if I change the portbase it will work
[11:00] <infernall> good luck, try the nullsoft forums...
[11:00] <lymz> i think keyringmanager messed up my password, anyway i can reset it?
[11:00] <MFen> arghwtftmi
[11:00] <MFen> why is it removing apt-file?
[11:00] <MFen> dang it.
[11:00] <RustyJames> MFen, some function that uses the birthday dates i already entered in evolution and then reminds me on the day of birthday and perhaps a few days ahead.
[11:01] <lampshade> #ubuntu your my only friends
[11:01] <virgule> oooh
[11:01] <MFen> RustyJames: it can do that, but i don't know if it integrates with evolution, as i said
[11:01] <crimsun> frankg: what are you trying to do?
[11:01] <virgule> I love my computer: fetched 255kb is 1s (118kb/s)
[11:02] <MFen> argh. screw it. there's no way i'm going to upgrade today
[11:02] <MFen> later all
[11:02] <frankg> crimsun, I was looking around and chose new login from a menu - it logged me out - I'm trying to log back in
[11:02] <RustyJames> MFen, ok Thank you, that would be what i searched for.
[11:02] <wRd> why does the kernel load sata_via even if its not in /etc/modules and it has no dependencies ,where can i change to some kind of generic driver?
[11:03] <RustyJames> MFen, I will try it.
[11:03] <MFen> cool
[11:03] <Crube> Does anyone have any guide I could use for creating an ssh server for irssi to my computer?
[11:03] <jrattner1> have installention DVD torents been released yet?
[11:04] <wrabbit> Is it possible to play dvds in ubuntu?
[11:04] <lampshade> Crube:  apt-get install openssh ?
[11:04] <Knorrie> wrabbit: vlc
[11:04] <lampshade> wrabbit:  Yes with VLC
[11:04] <mcquaid> anyone try to compile a qt app in breezy?
[11:04] <Crube> lampshade I've installed it, but I just dont knoiw how to use it :D
[11:04] <lancer285> can someone help me, my sound quit working
[11:04] <nybble> hmm... someone help me. i cant seem to log in to the wiki
[11:04] <barnes_> Turns out that my wireless card is the one that is next to impossible to set up.
[11:04] <wrabbit> lampshade, Knorrie I have it installed but can't figure out how to use it
[11:04] <Crube> jrattner1 ubuntu is single cd. No need for dvd
[11:04] <barnes_> I was planning on gettting a new one anyways.
[11:05] <TylerDurden> sigh please someone help me. how come i cant get 3d working? my ati is set on vesa for some reason even though i installed the drivers from ati and set fglrxconfig right+dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xrog is set on ati
[11:05] <wrabbit> lampshade, Knorrie ... feel like giving me a quick hand?
[11:05] <Knorrie> wrabbit: menu File -> Open disk?
[11:05] <lampshade> wrabbit:  It should just be a matter of putting the dvd in and launching the Dvd from the FIle menu
[11:05] <jrattner1> Crube, really, ahh good to know... Are the torrents running fast?
[11:05] <crimsun> TylerDurden: dpkg -l \*mesa\*|grep ^ii
[11:05] <crimsun> TylerDurden: then remove those packages
[11:05] <Crube> TylerDurden try installing the drivers when xserver is not running.
[11:05] <TylerDurden> how crimsun ?
[11:06] <lancer285> My sound stopped working after a reboot. The music 'plays' the games work, but no sound outta the speakers. I made sure the audio cable was still plugged into the comp. any ideas?
[11:06] <Crube> jrattner1 been running smoothly all day
[11:06] <jrattner1> Damn traffic is killing it : )
[11:06] <crimsun> lancer285: paste amixer output onto paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[11:06] <jrattner1> Crube, hmm good
[11:06] <TylerDurden> crimsun, how do i remove those?
[11:06] <nderjm_> TiMiDo: The driver didnt work for me.  My graphics care is not one of those that needs that driver.  And the laptop worked fine with Hoary without a special driver
[11:06] <virgule> ..speaking torrents.. I have a couple Gig left unused I thought I could host something to help..
[11:07] <lancer285> crimsun, I get there w/ a webbrowser?
[11:07] <jrattner1> us.releases.ubuntu.com must be under a ton of stress, the pages wont even load :  )
[11:07] <wrabbit> lampshade, Knorrie : I've tried open disc but it doesn't auto load and there're a bunch of options that make no sense
[11:07] <Crube> TylerDurden I had ALOT trouble with ati drivers, and this is the guide that worked for me http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557
[11:07] <miksu> what is the terminal command for entering root mode
[11:07] <Kyral> sudo -i
[11:07] <TiMiDo> miksu: sudo
[11:07] <TylerDurden> Crube, thanks ill try that
[11:07] <Loevborg> miksu, "sudo -s"
[11:07] <tristanmike> sudo -s\
[11:07] <Guennarr> Hello everyone.
[11:07] <tristanmike> *sudo -s
[11:08] <ubuntu__> so what
[11:08] <Knorrie> wrabbit: open file -> browse -> open the .vob
[11:08] <Kyral> sudo -i is better
[11:08] <barnes_> What do you reccomend as a wireless card? (wireless g card)
[11:08] <lampshade> wrabbit:  Ummm for a  normal DVD just do open disc dvd with menus.  and OK it should go  is it some special DVD or something?  A vcd?
[11:08] <Kyral> it fully inits a root environment
[11:08] <Guennarr> Can anyone help me with installation problems concerning X-org?
[11:08] <Loevborg> Kyral, they differ in changing $HOME resp. not?
[11:08] <lancer285> crimsun, I have a bigger problem it seems. I can't see any fonts in Firefox
[11:08] <Kyral> Loevborg, thats what I can see ;P
[11:09] <ubuntu__> how to activate dlink dwl122 please
[11:09] <Crube> Guennarr depends on the problem
[11:09] <stuart_> hi everyone, has anybody got breezy to work with an ATI X850 XT card with 3d acceleration?
[11:09] <wrabbit> lampshade, nope.. just a normal dvd
[11:09] <jrattner1> Where is the torrent for downloading i386, i cant locate a link due to high traffic on the web site
[11:09] <jas_> crimsun: Sorry I messed up did you say something to me in the last ohh 5-10 minutes?
[11:09] <miksu> and back to standard user?
[11:09] <wrabbit> Knorrie, where is the .vob file?  Can't find the dvd rom folde
[11:09] <wrabbit> r
[11:09] <Crube> stuart_ for you too this is the ONLY guide that workder for my ati card http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557
[11:09] <rkd> Is it possible to retheme the colour of the desktop background and the little "ubuntu" box, the ones that come up between logging in with gdm and having the desktop background image loaded?
[11:09] <ubuntu__> dwl122 please
[11:09] <lancer285> Hey guys, I can't see any fonts on websites w/ Firefox after upgrading to Breezy
[11:10] <Guennarr> Hello Crube, thanks! I just installed 5.10, chose a low graphics resolution (1024 * 768, the default value), but there are just flashing colours after the reboot.
[11:10] <ry> Question, does the new 5.10 release support MP3
[11:10] <lampshade> wrabbit:  hrmmmmmm  I've seen VLC not work once before randomly on a DVD...  does anyone know does Totem play dvd's I dont remember?  I would see if you can play it with totem if you have that installed?  Usually VLC works perfectly
[11:10] <lancer285> Well, I can't see any fonts in Firefox menus or anything either
[11:10] <jrattner1> Where is the torrent for downloading i386
[11:10] <sandollar> ry nope
[11:11] <jas_> crimsun: Sorry I messed up did you say something to me in the last ohh 5-10 minutes?
[11:11] <wrabbit> lampshade, I've been trying to get the dvd working for the past 13 hours.  Totem won't play em.  I'mj trying alternatives
[11:11] <lampshade> that's really weird...
[11:11] <ubuntu__> dwl122 please --------------------------------------????????????????
[11:11] <wrabbit> just installed all the multimedia codecs so it should work :(
[11:11] <miksu> so to compile, what file should i present to imake
[11:11] <stuart_> thanks Crube, I'll try it out :)
[11:11] <barnes_> What do you reccomend as a wireless card? (wireless g card)
[11:11] <dooglus> jrattner1: ftp://us.releases.ubuntu.com/releases/5.10/ubuntu-5.10-install-i386.iso.torrent
[11:11] <MrMaDSeN> dammit .. only 60 Hz refresh rate.... how that might be
[11:11] <jrattner1> dooglus, thank you
[11:11] <karjala> Hi, I just learned about Ubuntu... I use Debian... Why do they say Ubuntu is targeted towards desktop  users? Is it not as good as debian for server uses for some reason?
[11:11] <dooglus> jrattner1: that's install, not live...
[11:11] <Knorrie> wrabbit: somewhere in /media?
[11:12] <hajiki> !tell hajiki about xinerama
[11:12] <sunsun> hi how do i get firefox to download more than 2 files at a time.  when i right click after starting 2 downloads it pauses before showing me the window
[11:12] <nderjm_> Anyone with an HP OmniBook 600 by any chance :|
[11:12] <concept10> wrabbit, what are you using totem-gstreamer?
[11:12] <jrattner1> dooglus, sounds good, is it running quick?
[11:12] <wrabbit> concept10, was.. then totem xine and neither work
[11:12] <ubuntu__> wie geht denn nun wlan mit dlink und dwl122, bitttttttttttee ???????
[11:12] <lampshade> karjala:  I would say they say it is more targeted for desktop users for the little things like automount, etc.  I mean Debian can do that, but Ubuntu does it automatically
[11:12] <ry> anyone try the new openSuse release
[11:12] <jrattner1> wrabbit, try mplayer + libdvdread
[11:12] <hajiki> !xinerama
[11:12] <ubotu> parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about, hajiki
[11:12] <Knorrie> sunsun: probably it's a limit set by the server
[11:12] <_jason> sunsun:  look at the settings in "about:config" that limit your max-connections
[11:12] <concept10> ubuntu__, wiki.ubuntu.com
[11:12] <barnes_> What do you reccomend as a wireless card? (wireless g card)
[11:12] <Davey> infernall, almost! Screens are on the wrong side, will just swap the plugs around :)
[11:13] <Guennarr> Anybody read what I said? I have that small problem, that I do not see any graphical interface after installation, just flashing colours. X-Server?!
[11:13] <dooglus> sunsun: set network.http.max-persistent-connections-per-server
[11:13] <dooglus> sunsun: (in about:config)
[11:13] <Davey> infernall, though is it possible to get 3D accelleration?
[11:13] <karjala> lampshade: so it's not worse than debian as a server?
[11:13] <ubuntu__> wlan dwl122 ######################
[11:14] <MrMaDSeN> anyone know to apt ati gfx drivers?
[11:14] <[_NimroD_] > i have a problem with my sound. on the session start screen starts a sound like a drumb and never stops, this is giving me problems... can anyone help me??
[11:14] <concept10> karjala, ubuntu uses newer packages,
[11:14] <Knorrie> karjala: yes it is
[11:14] <dooglus> sunsun: I think I might go to #firefox and ask a few ubuntu questions in a bit.  you coming?
[11:14] <jrattner1> MrMaDSeN, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI?highlight=%28fgl%29
[11:14] <StarKruzr> wooooo, Breezy is out!
[11:14] <crimsun> jas_: echo $LANG
[11:14] <concept10> ubuntu__, dont keep repeating your questions please goto the wiki, the information is there
[11:14] <miksu> I am a bit confused about compiling. got the adom-sage source in dir, but i don't know the command to compile..makefile is present
[11:14] <karjala> Knorrie: in what way is it worse? i'm considering using it...
[11:14] <lampshade> karjala:  Telly you the truth I've never used it as a server... but I'm not a hardcore serverer so you might be talking to the wrong guy for details on it.  Like I said it just seems like they made it to be a nice desktop experience for desktop users.  Warm brown colors, OpenOffice and other things ready to go, etc
[11:14] <dooglus> jrattner1: it's not running quick for me, but I can't port-forward 6881
[11:14] <telonir> i need to download multiple torrents from console .. which prog can do it ?
[11:14] <jas_> crimsun: echo $LANG?
[11:15] <Knorrie> karjala: ubuntu is like debian unstable
[11:15] <[_NimroD_] > i have a problem with my sound. on the session start screen starts a sound like a drumb and never stops, this is giving me problems... can anyone help me??
[11:15] <jrattner1> douglus im only getting 1.14K why would port fowarding help?
[11:15] <horza> virgule: is fluxbox supose to be so laggy in the start?
[11:15] <Knorrie> karjala: they put all things in it as soons as possible
[11:15] <Guennarr> Can anyone help me? I just tried to install Ubuntu 5.10, and X-Server completely screwed up!  Thank you. I'll use it as a server.
[11:15] <jrattner1> Wow this room is like mayhem today, i never seen it so crazy
[11:15] <jrattner1> channel
[11:15] <MrMaDSeN> OMG servers are occupied :D
[11:15] <jrattner1> : )
[11:15] <Guennarr> Can anyone help me? I just tried to install Ubuntu 5.10, and X-Server completely screwed up! Second installation attempt, still just flashing colours, no log-in screen!!!
[11:16] <ry> exit
[11:16] <StarKruzr> _NimroD_ it sounds like there is a potential for your sound driver to be installed incorrectly.
[11:16] <concept10> double the people in here today
[11:16] <Knorrie> karjala: use 'it'? what? :)
[11:16] <gelberg> Knorrie, it's not quite like debian unstable. unstable isn't designed to be designed to be used by clueless users :)
[11:16] <[_NimroD_] > StarKruzr: i've installed it 5 times... the problem never disappear
[11:16] <sunsun> dooglus thanks alot
[11:16] <Guennarr> Can anyone help me? I just tried to install Ubuntu 5.10, and X-Server completely screwed up! Second installation attempt, still just flashing colours, no log-in screen!!!
[11:16] <gelberg> hmm
[11:16] <gelberg> s/designed to be//
[11:16] <gelberg> !tell Guennarr about repeat
[11:17] <crimsun> jas_: and what is the precise command you're typing in?
[11:17] <lampshade> lols
[11:17] <_jason> who was having font problems?
[11:17] <StarKruzr> [_NimroD_] , have you looked through the results from dmesg at all?
[11:17] <atila_sendil> hi and Happy Breezy Badger to all :-)
[11:17] <rodietze> hi! I've shipped 40 ubuntu cds, do I need to pay something?
[11:17] <atila_sendil> rodietze, nothing
[11:18] <felos_> Is anyone else getting errors when trying add Universe respositories in Breezy?
[11:18] <jrattner1> I wonder why ubuntu uses such weird names :  )
[11:18] <Guennarr> @ gelberg: maybe someone can give an answer or at least a tip where to find one? I do not even see gnome on my sreen after installation.
[11:18] <jas_> crimsun: mount -o loop DIABLO 2 PLAY CD.iso /mnt/diablo
[11:18] <rodietze> atila cool!! so I'll try to pas it to everybody around!!!! But are you sure? nor the chipping coast?
[11:18] <lancer285> crimsun, whats the link for the paste dump?
[11:18] <rodietze> shipping
[11:18] <atila_sendil> jrattner1, they are not actually final product names; just project codes :-) but still they are more fun than ordinary "serious" names for me
[11:19] <jrattner1> atila_sendil, thats true :  )
[11:19] <gelberg> Guennarr, sorry, i'm a debian man. all i can suggest is as root, dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg, /etc/init.d/<your display manager> restart
[11:19] <atila_sendil> rodietze, they are doing it for absolutely free and better ask for more amount in the first place to give everyone :-)
[11:19] <crimsun> lancer285: paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[11:19] <crimsun> jas_: aha!
[11:19] <tristanmike> Guennarr, that's sa good place to start, just add "sudo" infront of the command
[11:19] <jas_> crimsun: What?
[11:19] <jrattner1> Guennarr, do what gelberg told you it will work
[11:19] <StarKruzr> does anyone know whether or not Ubuntu saves the kernel configuration file that it creates at install?  I need to do some kernel hacking work.
[11:19] <atila_sendil> rodietze, I had ordered just 10 for 5.04 and they were all gone in a few days
[11:19] <gelberg> Guennarr, the point about repeating is if someone was going to help, they would anyway whether you repeat or not :)
[11:19] <crimsun> jas_: you need to put the filename in double quotes because it has spaces.
[11:20] <Guennarr> Thank you, Gelberg and tristanmike, I will try that!
[11:20] <rodietze> wow!! man I love Ubuntu!!!!!! all my friends will too, and I'll become a Ubuntu developer someday :)
[11:20] <Knorrie> gelberg: yes, and I'm glad that clueless users use ubuntu on desktop and don't set up servers with debian :P
[11:20] <tristanmike> Guennarr, what type of video do you have?
[11:20] <gelberg> Knorrie, :)
[11:20] <Felos> Is anyone else getting errors trying to add the Universe repo in Ubuntu?
[11:20] <crimsun> Felos: see the topic
[11:20] <Davey> HUzzah! Breezy installed :)
[11:20] <atila_sendil> Knorrie, well after some time with ubuntu they would be able to do that too
[11:20] <[_NimroD_] > StarKruzr: the results of what? i've tried disabling the sound server without results... the drumb keeps going on and on
[11:20] <Felos> crimsun, is that the reason for it? :-P
[11:20] <lancer285> crimsun, I have the output of amixer at : http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3044
[11:21] <mwright1night> Anyone here know about edubuntu
[11:21] <annex> jrattner1: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MarkShuttleworth , look at the last comment for insight into the naming scheme.  The wiki answers everything ;-)
[11:21] <gelberg> Knorrie, this is a big day for me. after a long time laughing at debian-based distros, i installed one for my parents.  ;)
[11:21] <mstefanus> A question: A fresh installed mysql on Ubuntu 5.10 says error: 'Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' (2)' Anyone can help?
[11:21] <mwright1night> The wiki knows all or was that Google?
[11:21] <Knorrie> gelberg: o/~ ;-)
[11:21] <jas_> crimsun: so do it like this? 'mount -o loop "DIABLO 2 PLAY CD.iso" /mnt/diablo'
[11:21] <mwright1night> Edbubuntu familiarity anyone ?
[11:21] <miksu> sudo chown username /home/user/work can i use this to give myself a root-priviliged folder for tasks
[11:21] <Xenguy> After upgrading Hoary->Breezy via apt-get dist-upgrade, I am getting this error on the (gdm?) login screen:  "Configuration is not correct.  The configuration file contains an invalid command line for the login dialog, so running the default command.  Please fix your configuration." How can I fix the error above?
[11:21] <Guennarr> Sorry for the break: I just wrote down the command...
[11:21] <atila_sendil> mwright1night, not me
[11:21] <gelberg> mstefanus, this is a bug in debian, don't know if it applies here. check http://bugs.debian.org/mysql-server. think it's to do with old_passwords option in my.cnf
[11:22] <Guennarr> I have a Geforce 6800 GT.
[11:22] <_jason> Xenguy:  I ahd that error as well
[11:22] <StarKruzr> [_NimroD_] , so you stopped it from starting up in the first place?  at boot?
[11:22] <_jason> Xenguy:  one sec while I remember what file had to be changed
[11:22] <lancer285> can anyone help me get my sound working? everything is plugged in right, but it stopped working after a reboot. the comp THINKS its working, it plays music files, but no sound.
[11:22] <mstefanus> gelberg: that option doesnt exist anymore
[11:22] <Xenguy> _jason: thanks a lot
[11:22] <[_NimroD_] > StarKruzr: no.. i can't stop it, that's the problem
[11:22] <Knorrie> atila_sendil: I was using debian (no X) for years on servers before using linux on the desktop, this summer I began to use ubuntu, and only after a day I discovered there were graphical configuration tools :P
[11:22] <gelberg> mstefanus, perhaps i'm mixing up bugs. that was one. server wouldn't start for reason you describe :)
[11:23] <Guennarr> I already met problems in SUSE 10.0 (just works after startx from command line) and in Kanotix (in higher resolutions). I hoped that Ubuntu's excellent hw support would prevent any such problems... :(
[11:23] <wrabbit> ARG! vlc doesn't work
[11:23] <wrabbit> no idea why
[11:23] <Knorrie> atila_sendil: lalaa terminal lala :)
[11:23] <tristanmike> Guennarr, odd, nvidia should be no problem, when picking driver, try the "nv" one or "vesa" I believe
[11:23] <wrabbit> could it be the laptop itself?
[11:23] <mwright1night> I want to know about Teaacherspet
[11:23] <crimsun> jas_: yes
[11:23] <jas_> crimsun: Ahhh Thank you so much!
[11:23] <StarKruzr> sorry [_NimroD_]  we've exhausted the limits of my experience.
[11:23] <valzor> someone knows this message error : Gdk-ERROR **: BadDrawable (invalid Pixmap or Window parameter)
[11:23] <Davey> OK, all my windows are odd
[11:23] <[216] Shadey> time to install Ubuntu 5.10 w00t w00t w00t!!!
[11:23] <jas_> crimsun: It worked I appriciate that so much!
[11:23] <SupIAmMike> gaw breezy doesnt come with gcc 3.4
[11:23] <mstefanus> gelberg: correct, this is a similar problem, but that option is not in my.cnf file
[11:23] <atila_sendil> Knorrie, lol but this led you learning the basics better eh ? still for people "switching" (me for one) ubuntu just does it right
[11:23] <SupIAmMike> but cisco vpnclient requires it
[11:24] <[_NimroD_] > StarKruzr: its ok.. thanks anyway :)
[11:24] <SupIAmMike> should i get gcc 3.4 and install cisco vpnclient or should i move over to vpnc
[11:24] <Knorrie> atila_sendil: true!
[11:24] <gelberg> mstefanus, if you get no joy, do check the debian bugs. it does ring a bell, but there's a lot of bugs that ring a bell
[11:24] <shadeofgrey> hi everybody
[11:24] <Davey> it looks like all the windows are inside other windows, so all the rounded corners, have a background behind the curve and then a square corner...
[11:24] <Supermang> Can anyone help me with this permissions problem? I have my windows partition in the fstab with the "user" option, but I am still unable to view the partition as a regular user in Nautilus
[11:24] <Guennarr> Hhhhmmm... I just tried the default settings, I did not choose any drivers so far. So I should try a manual installation?
[11:24] <Davey> and all my windows are going black when I min/maximize them
[11:24] <_jason> Xenguy:  you want to backup your current /etc/gmd/gmd.conf and then replace it with /etc/gmd/factory-gdm.conf
[11:24] <valzor> someone knows this message error : Gdk-ERROR **: BadDrawable (invalid Pixmap or Window parameter)
[11:24] <Davey> and when I alt+tab
[11:24] <Davey> what I missing?
[11:25] <gelberg> Supermang, man mount. check out the uid / gid (i think) options
[11:25] <rkd> What's the technical term for the little "ubuntu" box that comes up while loading GNOME and gives information about nautilus etc. having loaded?
[11:25] <StarKruzr> does anyone know whether or not Ubuntu saves the kernel configuration file that it creates at install?  I need to do some kernel hacking work.  basically I want to use the kernel configuration that ubuntu creates to compile my own kernel (modulo some changes that I apply, but with everything else the same).
[11:25] <XsXs> Take my last trip to Wal-Mart. Was buying milk when an older woman, probably 50+, came up and asked my wife and I if we would rather have some fresh from the source and them whipped out her lift tit and waved it at us. We sttod there stunned. I mean WTF? Sure Wal-Mart is always full of weirdos, but I've never had anyone wave their tit at me in the middle of a store before.
[11:25] <Supermang> gelberg: will do
[11:25] <Xenguy> _jason: thank you very much - I will try that
[11:25] <[216] Shadey> everyone say w00t w00t! if you love Ubuntu!!
[11:25] <wrabbit> meh
[11:25] <atila_sendil> Knorrie, I had tried linux in the past many times but just for myself and nothing to do with job so ... I could only start with ubuntu now I have linux all over the house and different distros too :-)
[11:25] <[216] Shadey> meh!?
[11:25] <lancer285> I love it when it works
[11:25] <[216] Shadey> w00t w00t!
[11:25] <gelberg> do people still say w00t?
[11:26] <lampshade> lol
[11:26] <[216] Shadey> i do, i'm bringing it back, just like parichute pants!
[11:26] <StarKruzr> (parachute)
[11:26] <[216] Shadey> damnet =(
[11:26] <Guennarr> TristanMike: Can I switch drivers after installation, too, or can I switch drivers only by a re-installation?
[11:26] <shadeofgrey> whats the general consensus concerning the AMD64 version of breezy?
[11:26] <StarKruzr> (dammit)
[11:26] <mstefanus> Anyone else have an idea why mysql wont start?
[11:26] <feugan3333> Hi all. How would I find out which dns server I am currently using. On Windows it can be done with ipconfig /all. How can I do the same on ubuntu?
[11:27] <tristanmike> no, should be able to, the same command, sudo dpkg-reco..... should do the same thing, but you might want to get the updated drivers in, instead of the default ones
[11:27] <[216] Shadey> dammit!! =(
[11:27] <StarKruzr> there we go :)
[11:27] <[216] Shadey> one day i shall learn to spell!
[11:27] <gelberg> feugan3333, cat /etc/resolv.conf
[11:27] <shadeofgrey> is it worth using?  is it robust enough to be used as a main distribution imnstallation?  or is it still basically an enthusiast only type of deal?
[11:27] <[216] Shadey> w00t w00t!! =D
[11:27] <[TvM] > i give all permissions to a file... why i get this error? ioctl(SIOCSIFLAGS) failed: Permission denied
[11:27] <Kerr> Hi, i reccomended ubunt to a friend of mine a few days ago. she has via unichrome onboard graphics; on first boot she got into x fine, second boot; the display was 'wobbly', third she is in a terminal window. I googled out http://www.physik.fu-berlin.de/~glaweh/debian/ for unichrome debs for her, but habing a geforce4 myself have no idea what else to do. Are any of the files there what she needs? if they are, what would she install?
[11:27] <miksu> never even thought that anb
[11:27] <davro> What is wOOts, sorry i do not buy into that Obsesive-compulsive Disorder called love
[11:27] <feugan3333> gelberg, thanks
[11:27] <crimsun> mstefanus: did you edit the conffile? Did you set a root passwd for the mysqld?
[11:27] <Kerr> sorry for being so.. eh, clueless ;.;
[11:27] <miksu> never even thought that an OS could be this powerful
[11:27] <tristanmike> Guennarr, in my very limited knowledge
[11:27] <Kerr> ubuntu^
[11:27] <shadeofgrey> ...i understand that the driver support in the hoary release of amd64 blew rancid ardvark balls?
[11:27] <StarKruzr> ... rancid aardvark balls...
[11:27] <StarKruzr> wow
[11:28] <TylerDurden> when i try to install the ati drivers everything seems fine, no errors, but in fglrx-install.log it says this [Message]  Kernel Module : Trying to install a precompiled kernel module.
[11:28] <TylerDurden> [Message]  Kernel Module : Precompiled kernel module version mismatched.
[11:28] <TylerDurden> [Error]  Kernel Module : No kernel module build environment - please consult readme.
[11:28] <atila_sendil> Kerr, unichrome drivers just work :-)
[11:28] <Guennarr> Ok. I will try that. Thanks for now!
[11:28] <miksu> now i got my private folder with root priviledges =)
[11:28] <mstefanus> crimsun: like what the guide said, but it says it could not find mysqld.sock and then dies
[11:28] <tristanmike> hope it works for you Guennarr
[11:28] <shadeofgrey> star:  yeah..  i write for a living, so ...  colorful language is my meal ticket
[11:28] <Guennarr> Thanks! I will report! ;-)
[11:28] <Kerr> atila_sendil: her xorg conf lists that she's using the 'via' driver, not unichrome.
[11:28] <crimsun> TylerDurden: did you install gcc-3.4 and linux-headers-$(uname -r)?
[11:29] <TFP> why is it, that when i run xmms there are no other system sounds available?
[11:29] <TylerDurden> i dont think i installed gcc-3.4 nor linux headers
[11:29] <feugan3333> mstefanus: did you install the ubuntu mysql package?
[11:29] <rodietze> OH I've forgot to ask you guys, I have a winmodem agere/lucente at home, but I need the kernel-sources, but I can't find the kernel-source for Hoary, the 2.6.10-5
[11:29] <Licker> my Ubuntu is CORRUPT!
[11:29] <TylerDurden> ill try that
[11:29] <atila_sendil> Kerr, have you followed any of the guides on the forums to install specific unichrome drivers from the project ?
[11:29] <Kerr> atila_sendil: i use debian etch and xfree, so i'm really lost.
[11:29] <BockBilbo> Licker, mine too, doesnt pay taxes
[11:29] <BockBilbo> xDD
[11:29] <feugan3333> My goverment is corrupt!
[11:29] <Licker> NOO!!
[11:29] <Licker> :/
[11:29] <[TvM] > i give all permissions to a file... why i get this error? ioctl(SIOCSIFLAGS) failed: Permission denied.
[11:29] <kanevala> anyway i can get admin access back after removing myself from admins/sudo group?
[11:29] <mstefanus> feugan3333: apt-get install mysql-server
[11:29] <BockBilbo> lol
[11:29] <atila_sendil> feugan3333, lol
[11:29] <crimsun> TylerDurden: then you need build-essential, gcc-3.4, and linux-headers-$(uname -r)
[11:29] <Kerr> atila_sendil: It's not me, and her boxen is firewalled by her bro so i can't ssh in and do it for her.
[11:29] <crimsun> rodietze: see what I just told TylerDurden
[11:29] <TylerDurden> so i include the $ crimsun ?
[11:30] <Licker> no but really my apt-get is messed up
[11:30] <feugan3333> mstefanus: yes
[11:30] <crimsun> TylerDurden: exactly
[11:30] <StarKruzr> does anyone know whether or not Ubuntu saves the kernel configuration file that it creates at install?  I need to do some kernel hacking work.  basically I want to use the kernel configuration that ubuntu creates to compile my own kernel (modulo some changes that I apply, but with everything else the same).
[11:30] <lampshade> Kerr:  It isn't too big of a difference.  I'm a linux noob and I went from Debian, to Ubuntu fine.  (Arch linux might have shown up in the middle I can't quite remember )
[11:30] <shadeofgrey> hey does ANYBODY know where i might fund officvial transcripts of all the presidents speeches about iraq and sept. 11th?
[11:30] <mattack> anyone install breezy on a DELL Optiplex GX520?
[11:30] <crimsun> TylerDurden: exactly $(uname -r)
[11:30] <rodietze> what  is tok
[11:30] <Supermang> gelberg: thanks that did it
[11:30] <rodietze> oops, OK :)
[11:30] <TylerDurden> oh ok crimsun thanks im gonna try that
[11:30] <shadeofgrey> i need them for research
[11:30] <gelberg> StarKruzr, in debian it would be in /boot/config<whatever>
[11:30] <eduardo> Hey folks, silly little question. When ubuntu reboots after the install on its own power the first time, it craps out on my ethernet card. When I reboot again and force it to use a startup config with acpi=off it works. But then it just leaves me at the login prompt and doesn't bother installing anything else.
[11:30] <eduardo> What do I do?
[11:30] <Xenguy> _jason: rebooting now to see if that worked
[11:30] <_jason> Xenguy:  k
[11:30] <kanevala> anyway i can get admin access back after removing myself from admins/sudo group?
[11:30] <Kerr> atila_sendil: I noticed sone instructiosn that were experimental, but it would be unfair to install experimental software on someone elses pc.
[11:30] <mzelem> hi, could someone tell me were the xconfig file is in kubuntu, and if there is a graphical x-configurator?
[11:30] <atila_sendil> Kerr, oops... tough job then. I am also bit new too but after reading the forums (searching for unichrome) and loading the files from the unichrome project site I got my mini itx box with drivers
[11:30] <gelberg> Supermang, great
[11:30] <Xenguy> _jason: BTW, how did you locate the workaround?
[11:30] <Kerr> atila_sendil: 's why i sniffed out the debs.
[11:31] <aquarius> Is a smart upgrade recommended for upgrading from 5.04 to 5.10?
[11:31] <mattack> i have one at work and don't want to have too much downtime
[11:31] <StarKruzr> gelberg: do you have Ubuntu installed on a machine now?
[11:31] <miksu> a general question. if my bios can't save data when my machine is not powered up, is this malfunction or low battery power
[11:31] <StarKruzr> i.e. can you check for me?
[11:31] <atila_sendil> Kerr, I had also trid out the .deb's first but no worky :-(
[11:31] <lampshade> StarKruzr:  I wish I knew the answer to your question because I often wonder that myself... :-/
[11:31] <_jason> Xenguy:  during the isntall it prompted me if I wanted to replace that file... i made a note of it and chose default which was to leave it alone... when that error popped up I figured it was because of that
[11:31] <gelberg> StarKruzr, it's there
[11:31] <atila_sendil> Kerr, and if it is an office PC better not try too hard ?
[11:31] <StarKruzr> gelberg: you da man
[11:31] <valzor> someone knows this message error : Gdk-ERROR **: BadDrawable (invalid Pixmap or Window parameter)
[11:31] <StarKruzr> gelberg: How do I tell make to use that file when recompiling my kernel?
[11:32] <Xenguy> _jason: cool, OK let's see if it works for me
[11:32] <Kerr> atila_sendil: yea, i downloaded unichrome-X-r30.tar.gz and had a look at it. no INSTALL or README file and what inctructions i could find were for xfree. :-/
[11:32] <Kerr> i don't know what to do with the file, and i'm sure she'd know even less.
[11:32] <Kerr> instructions^
[11:32] <QMario> Why is the server so slow?
[11:32] <rodietze> but what's the diference between the linux-headers and kernle-headers? and the same for linux-source kernel-source ... linux-image  kernle-image ?
[11:33] <Supermang> Anyone know another mirror of the essential codecs for mplayer besides their site? it seems to be down
[11:33] <atila_sendil> Kerr, have you searched ubuntuforums.org for unichrome ? I read and followed them what you downloaded is not just to directly  install
[11:33] <miksu> qmario got to 60 % in about 4 hours..just be patient
[11:33] <tristanmike> QMario, see /topic
[11:33] <Kerr> atila_sendil: she was using redhat9 ~.~ it was horrible.
[11:33] <gelberg> StarKruzr, (again i'm not an ubuntu guru) cp <file> /usr/src/kernel-source<whatever>.  make oldconfig. make menuconfig. make-kpkg <whatever>
[11:33] <_jason> Supermang:  are you just looking for w32codecs?
[11:33] <bloodnik> Hi, what's that Flash maker called and where can one find it? Ta
[11:33] <Supermang> yep
[11:33] <barnes_> What do you reccomend as a wireless card? (wireless g card)
[11:33] <Kerr> atila_sendil: cann't say i've searched too hard
[11:33] <mstefanus> feugan3333 That is what I did...I did not install from source
[11:33] <StarKruzr> make OLDCONFIG
[11:33] <StarKruzr> aha
[11:33] <gelberg> !tell Supermang about marillat
[11:33] <StarKruzr> sexcellent
[11:33] <atila_sendil> Kerr, argh RedHat was the choice (when it was Red Hat5 or so) but now there is ubuntu :-)
[11:33] <_jason> !tell Supermang about w32codecs
[11:34] <Supermang> _jason, thanks
[11:34] <miksu> barnes if you got the cash, get buffalo airstation + buffalo usb card + 2 DA antennas...pretty much the perfect setup
[11:34] <atila_sendil> Kerr, all I can suggest more is to search the forums for "unichrome" and read all you get from there (at least that is what I did and worked for me)
[11:34] <gelberg> StarKruzr, NB when you copy the config file to the source dir, name it .config.
[11:34] <Supermang> doh it leads to the same URL
[11:34] <fosco> hi
[11:34] <flipy> how can I disable boot daemons?
[11:34] <_jason> Supermang:  oh
[11:35] <[TvM] > i give all permissions to a file... why i get this error? ioctl(SIOCSIFLAGS) failed: Permission denied..
[11:35] <fosco> anyone knows why we have CONFIG_IDEDMA_ONLYDISK=y in the kernel configuration?
[11:35] <feugan3333> mstefanus: try restarting the deamon: /etc/init.d/mysqld restart    and then see if there are any errors.
[11:35] <StarKruzr> gelberg: thank you.
[11:35] <QMario> Miksu? Is that really you?
[11:35] <_jason> Supermang:  I think I had an old one saved somewhere let me see if it is still up
[11:35] <fosco> that leads to cdroms on PIO mode and (for example) dvd reading very slow?
[11:35] <QMario> I haven't heard from you in a while?
[11:35] <QMario> What's going on?
[11:35] <miksu> qmario say what?
[11:35] <lampshade> fosco:  umm so that it does y or yes for IDE DMA on the disk?
[11:35] <miksu> qmario you are hermo? or what?
[11:36] <fosco> lampshade: this set D
[11:36] <fosco> lampshade: this set DMA for disks only
[11:36] <mstefanus> feugan3333: I did that so many times... this is what it says Starting MySQL database server: mysqld...failed.
[11:36] <mstefanus>         Please take a look at the syslog.
[11:36] <mstefanus> /usr/bin/mysqladmin: connect to server at 'localhost' failed
[11:36] <mstefanus> error: 'Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' (2)'
[11:36] <mstefanus> Check that mysqld is running and that the socket: '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' exists!
[11:36] <westfall> can someone tell me if this is right? i'm trying to mount my two windows partitions.
[11:36] <westfall> /dev/hda1 	/media/windows 	ntfs 	umask=0222  	0 	0
[11:36] <westfall> /dev/hdb1 	/media/windows 	ntfs 	umask=0222  	0 	0
[11:36] <fosco> lampshade: and cdroms on PIO mode
[11:36] <QMario> Miksu, hermo?
[11:36] <QMario> Mstefanus, pastebin please. :)
[11:36] <miksu> qmario just asked if you are some friend i know?
[11:36] <mstefanus> QMario: sorry
[11:36] <dooglus> westfall: if you want to mount them both at the same time you'll be needing two different mount points in /media
[11:36] <atila_sendil> oops; Simpsons on TV :-) bye all; for now . . .
[11:36] <dooglus> you can't use /media/windows for both of them
[11:37] <_jason> Supermang:  ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/pool/main/w/w32codecs/
[11:37] <QMario> Mstefanus, it's okay. :)
[11:37] <fosco> this is really a problem for a new user :\
[11:37] <lancer285> I'm still having problems w/ my sound guys.
[11:37] <miksu> qmario i mean if you are finnish etc
[11:37] <Supermang> _jason, thanks!
[11:37] <QMario> Miksu, no...
[11:37] <miksu> qmario last night?
[11:37] <mwright1night> what isa jigdo download?
[11:38] <Chadza> Can anyone reccomend a screen shot utility?
[11:38] <TylerDurden> crimsun, i downloaded those, but its still set on mesa :(
[11:38] <miksu> qmario how are we acquainted
[11:38] <mwright1night> is this a similair protocol to bittorrent
[11:38] <QMario> Miksu, huh?
[11:38] <lampshade> fosco:  what was the question again?  I would assume you would want DMA turned on as it is faster?  but I don't understand for sure
[11:38] <lancer285> My sound stopped working after the upgrade.
[11:38] <miksu> qmario god, where do i know you from ???
[11:38] <QMario> Miksu, I have just talked to you over #Ubuntu. That's all. :)
[11:38] <lampshade> mwright1night:  No jigdo let's you assemble your own kinda cd from all the packages available.  Not like bittorrent.  Bitorrent just helps you get the cd faster by downloading it from others who are downloading it.
[11:38] <miksu> qmario all right well i have been sleeping..suffering from insomnia at night
[11:39] <miksu> qmario beginning to get good with ubuntu btw =)
[11:39] <fosco> lampshade: that's it, using dma dor disks and cdroms is the default in the linux kernel, and dns for cdroms is needed for playgind dvd for examples)
[11:39] <QMario> Hee. :)
[11:39] <SQFreak> I wish there was a way to torrentify apt.
[11:40] <fosco> lampshade: I wonder why this option is actived on ubuntu kernels, since ubuntu wants to be used on desktops iirc
[11:40] <miksu> qmario so have you been using it for long ?
[11:40] <stuart_> Crube, I went through that ati graphics card how-to without succes... do you know of anyone getting it to work on amd64?
[11:40] <flipy> is there any graphical interface to edit the startup daemons?
[11:40] <ubuntu> hello all
[11:41] <QMario> Miksu, about < 1 year.
[11:41] <Xenguy> _jason: worked! Thanks, gotta jet :-)
[11:41] <fosco> flipy: yes
[11:41] <QMario> Maybe 8 months.
[11:41] <Kerr> does breezy have unichrome support that 'just works'?
[11:41] <ubuntu> how do i using the keyboard switch the virtual desktop.. the man only says to use the mouse :(
[11:41] <aquarius> Is a smart upgrade recommended for upgrading from 5.04 to 5.10?
[11:41] <miksu> qmario 2 weeks :)
[11:41] <fosco> flipy: System -> Admninistration -> Services
[11:41] <QMario> Miksu, wow.
[11:41] <nderjm> Anyone got Breezy working on an ATI Rage Mobility P/M?
[11:41] <miksu> qmario hehe
[11:41] <feugan3333> mstefanus: I don't have mysql installed, but I'm installing now. So maybe I'll be able to help maybe not :-)
[11:42] <_jason> Xenguy:  that's great, enjoy breezy
[11:42] <miksu> qmario maybe we should give some chat-space to ubuntu help talk
[11:42] <flipy> fosco: that's just for "some" daemons... how can I stop hp server print, cup, mdadm-raid, mdadm, ...?
[11:42] <ubuntu> how do i using the keyboard switch the virtual desktop.. the man only says to use the mouse :(
[11:42] <Crube> stuart_ did you try the install part with your xserver not running
[11:42] <Chadza>  ubuntu Crtl + Alt + Left or Right
[11:42] <QMario> Miksu, I agree. :-D
[11:42] <QMario> How long did it take for you guys to upgrade to Breezy?
[11:42] <hihi_>  #ubuntu-es
[11:42] <QMario> !Breezy
[11:42] <ubotu> The guide to upgrading to breezy (5.10) is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade
[11:43] <fosco> flipy: hmm, I see cupsys in the list
[11:43] <TylerDurden> wow, i just cant get 3d to work
[11:43] <TylerDurden> its set on mesa. i installed the ati drivers and all
[11:43] <aquarius> Ah, on thewiki. I looked on the support site but couldn't find much about upgrading.
[11:43] <stuart_> Crube, yes, I tried out some different configurations with no luck... 2d works fine with the fglrx driver, but fglrxinfo keeps saying "MesaGL"
[11:44] <dreameen> why is main security hoary repo not working?
[11:44] <ethan-allison> is there any reason not to upgrade to Breezy?
[11:44] <ethan-allison> dreameen: heavy traffic from the new release
[11:44] <dreameen> okie
[11:44] <stuart_> TylerDurden, same problem here, pay attention to what Crube is saying ;)
[11:44] <fosco> lampshade: you see? :)
[11:44] <mstefanus> feugan3333: Thanks, I hope you can... it is 5.10, PPC version
[11:44] <ethan-allison> dreameen: wiki.ubuntu.com/Archive
[11:44] <TylerDurden> stuart_, it worked fine on the pre release i dont get it
[11:45] <TylerDurden> now it just wont work and says mesa
[11:45] <davro> QMario: proberly took me about 2 hours to download burn cd, reinstall not upgrade on laptop 1.4m 1gig ram, but i did remove the dual boot, and reclaim the hard disk from windows.
[11:45] <QMario> I wonder how long it would take for a person using dial-up?
[11:45] <stuart_> TylerDurden, you might want to check out this howto: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557
[11:45] <QMario> Davro, heh. Windows.
[11:45] <Chousuke> QMario: A long, long time
[11:45] <TylerDurden> i tried that stuart_ it didnt work
[11:45] <Chousuke> Computers aren't really useful nowadays with a dialup.
[11:45] <stuart_> TylerDurden, ok, I didn't get around to trying out the prerelease... are you using "ati" or "fglrx" driver?
[11:46] <Crube> stuart_ I tried to get my ati drivers working for something like a week. I tried a dozen guides, and the only one that worked was that.
[11:46] <Chousuke> unless you never connect to the internet. :/
[11:46] <TylerDurden> i tried both, on the pre release i used ati and it worked fine
[11:46] <Supermang> if you still have dialup i feel sorry for you
[11:46] <feugan3333> Ubuntu is not usefull with a dialup
[11:46] <davro> might take days on a dial up and i don't think i could take it when the time come to run md5sum
[11:46] <Chousuke> feugan3333: true. :/
[11:46] <stuart_> TylerDurden, ok, what graphics card are you using?
[11:46] <Guimauve2> I have a quick question : how do I update my Ubuntu 5.04 system to a Ubuntu 5.10 system using apt-get?
[11:46] <TylerDurden> stuart_, 9200
[11:46] <Chousuke> Though windows isn't much better.
[11:47] <feugan3333> debian a bit better with lots of packages on cd
[11:47] <stuart_> Crube, ok, thanks for the assistance :)
[11:47] <feugan3333> better for dialup that is
[11:47] <Chousuke> craploads of security updates to install.
[11:47] <_jason> Guimauve2:  /topic
[11:47] <ethan-allison> Chousuke: and security updates for the security updates ;)
[11:47] <Guimauve2> thx
[11:48] <Chousuke> ethan-allison: it happens.
[11:48] <DarthFrog> Guimauve2: change "hoary" to "breezy" in /etc/apt/sources.list.  Then "apt-get updated && apt-get dist-upgrade"
[11:48] <ethan-allison> s/updated/update
[11:48] <_jason> !tell Guimauve2 about breezy
[11:48] <DarthFrog> ethan-allison: Tnx. :-)
[11:48] <Crube> stuart_ by the way, after installing the driver when xserver was shut down, did you restart xserver with the "xserver" command?
[11:48] <ethan-allison> DarthFrog: yup :-D
[11:49] <dreameen> so, how should my security repo entry in sources.list look like?
[11:49] <stuart_> Crube, no, I just restarted gdm. It worked for getting X to work in the first place, but now I start sensing it might not completely reload X or how?
[11:50] <DarthFrog> Breezy breaks VMWare, BTW.  Due to using a different gcc to compile the kernel (3.4.5) than is installed on the system (4.0).
[11:50] <stuart_> TylerDurden, ok, I have never got my X850 to work on linux with the fglrx driver before breezy, so seems like you're ahead of me
[11:50] <dmk> DarthFrog, install gcc-3.4 and either use export CC=/usr/bin/gcc-3.4 or
[11:50] <frank23> DarthFrog: you can still use vmware
[11:51] <DarthFrog> dmk: Tried that, no go.
[11:51] <TylerDurden> stuart_, http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=66334&highlight=ati+guide
[11:51] <frank23> DarthFrog: listen to dmk ;-)
[11:51] <DarthFrog> frank23: How did you do it?
[11:51] <TylerDurden> i did a part of that and im going to try
[11:51] <dmk> DarthFrog, remove the symlink for gcc and add one to from gcc to /usr/bin/gcc-3.4 instead of to gcc-4.0
[11:51] <Supermang> whats the easiet way to get java working in firefox?
[11:51] <Crube> stuart_ I suggest trying to do the whole thing by shutting down x with ctrl+alt+backspace, then follow the guide, then use the "xserver" command to start it again.
[11:51] <DarthFrog> dmk: Been there, done that.
[11:51] <DarthFrog> dmk: Did it work for you?
[11:51] <dmk> DarthFrog, with the symlink?
[11:52] <DarthFrog> dmk: Either.
[11:52] <frank23> DarthFrog: just export CC=/usr/bin/gcc-3.4 and run the configuration script for vmware again
[11:52] <dmk> DarthFrog, never used it mate but if its gcc-4.0 thats the problem and export CC wont work changing the symlink for gcc to gcc-3.4 will
[11:53] <DarthFrog> frank23: I installed gcc-3.4 and went the symlink route.  Didn't work.  The kernel is compiled with gcc-3.4.5 and only 3.4.4 is in the repos.
[11:53] <a_monkey> can all the people reading this right now on breezy that has bitmap fonts enabled and working please acknowledge it to me
[11:53] <a_monkey> example
[11:53] <feugan3333> Supermang: http://www.mozilla.org/support/firefox/faq#q2.2
[11:53] <a_monkey> a_monkey: i do!
[11:53] <Eppu> DarthFrog: you may also need to grab http://platan.vc.cvut.cz/ftp/pub/vmware/vmware-any-any-update94.tar.gz and use the runme script from there, instead of vmware configure
[11:53] <Efwis> if I did a clean install of 5.10 would I still have to wait for all the upgrade packages to be installed?
[11:54] <dmk> you on breezy?
[11:54] <frank23> DarthFrog: It work for me by using export CC=/usr/bin/gcc-3.4
[11:54] <Guimauve2> I think it'll be working (the update).  I tried the first time but I had forgotten the replace "hoary" to "breezy" at two places.
[11:54] <dreameen> what is the OO version in the new release
[11:54] <dreameen> is it RC2?#
[11:54] <stuart_> Crube, ok, will do that, thank you very much
[11:54] <rjordan> http://www.hai2u.com/
[11:54] <dmk> frank23, what version of gcc-3.4 to you have then?
[11:55] <anthony> Hey, I was wondering what plug-ins (packages) I need to install in order to play embedded wmv files and DVDs using totem?
[11:55] <frank23> dmk: gcc version 3.4.5 20050809 (prerelease) (Ubuntu 3.4.4-6ubuntu8)
[11:55] <madsen_> use VLC instead
[11:55] <DarthFrog> Eppu: Thanks.  I'll try that.
[11:55] <dmk> frank23, cheers mate - thats the current one
[11:56] <eduardo> hey so I just installed Ubuntu. How do I start X? Gnome? KDE? Or none of that is installed by default?
[11:56] <dmk> IIRC anyway
[11:56] <_jason> madsen_:  why is vlc's gui umm "crappy looking" in the latest update?
[11:56] <jsubl2> anthony: mplayer works best for me but you have to room the totem plugins manually.. sudo apt-get install mozilla-mplayer
[11:56] <esac> is it possible to resize an ext3 partition ?
[11:56] <Eppu> DarthFrog: You need the CC=/usr/bin/gcc-3.4 stuff with it too. But the update fixes problems with networking on breezy, etc.
[11:56] <anthony> madsen_: I tried using VLC but it doesn't work, or was that comment directed at me?
[11:56] <anthony> jsubl2: Thank you, does mplayer supports DVD playing as well?
[11:56] <Crube> eduardo they usually start automatically. What happens when you start your computer?
[11:56] <QMario> !DVD
[11:56] <ubotu> DVD playing is possible in ubuntu, some dvd's require libdvdcss2, which can be found in !hoary-extras
[11:56] <jsubl2> anthony: yeah but you have to get the libdvdcss i think it is
[11:57] <eduardo> Crube, I get to the text login prompt
[11:57] <QMario> !hoary-extras
[11:57] <ubotu> it has been said that hoary-extras is see  http://backports.ubuntuforums.org ; example hoary repo: deb http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/ hoary-extras main universe multiverse restricted
[11:57] <frank23> anthony: mplayer support dvd playing but not the dvd menus
[11:57] <_jason> QMario:  that's for hoary
[11:57] <Crube> eduardo have you tried "gdm"
[11:57] <anthony> frank23 and jsubl2: Thanks.
[11:57] <jeff303> who here plays Warcraft 3 on Battle.net using Cedega?
[11:57] <eduardo> gdm command not found
[11:57] <frank23> _jason: you can still use hoary-extras with breezy
[11:58] <feugan3333> jeff303: I don't, but I'd like to know how it runs?
[11:58] <_jason> frank23:  oh... sorry then
[11:58] <eduardo> Crube: gdm is not found
[11:58] <jeff303> feugan3333: well so far it's pretty good for me
[11:58] <Crube> eduardo umm... Uh... It -should- be found if you installed ubuntu normally.
[11:58] <weezer> hola a todos
[11:58] <DarthFrog> dmk: W00t!  VMWare is working now!  :-)
[11:58] <jeff303> feugan3333: after some tweaking
[11:58] <feugan3333> jeff303: pretty cool
[11:58] <eduardo> Crube: heh so why ain't it?
[11:59] <jeff303> feugan3333: but I've been having some lockups on Battle.net, wondering if they were common
[11:59] <jeff303> feugan3333: don't remember them from Windows
[11:59] <Crube> eduardo I have no idea :D
[11:59] <weezer> tengo un pequeo problema con el amule, alguien me puede ayudar?
[11:59] <eduardo> craps!
[11:59] <dmk> DarthFrog, nice one mate enjoy
[11:59] <DarthFrog> dmk: exporting the GCC variable worked, where symlinking didn't. :-)
[11:59] <eduardo> so what do I do?
[11:59] <Crube> eduardo did you install ubuntu 5.10
[11:59] <DarthFrog> dmk: Mind you, there's a downside.  Now Windows is running again. :-)   I'll not enjoy that.
[11:59] <dmk> DarthFrog, symlink must be wrong then mate - glad its working though
[11:59] <feugan3333> jeff303: might be Cedega's fault, never had lockups in while playing in windows.