[21:57] <zsquareplusc> ik-ook: get a better provider or a user agent switcher ;-)
[21:57] <zleap> not sure, i use my hotmail to login to msn thats all
[21:57] <joaopinto> flice, that's just a version id
[21:57] <mib_ygbv1i> i need a virs scanner tho!
[21:57] <joshritger> If I am using partimage to backup my install, do I just have to backup my ext3 partition, or do I have to backup my extended which contains the swap?
[21:57] <mib_ygbv1i> for mozilla
[21:57] <mib_ygbv1i> in ubutu
[21:57] <mib_ygbv1i> ubuntu
[21:57] <facefaceface> ik-ook, restart
[21:57] <FloodBot1> mib_ygbv1i: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:57] <ikonia> Mr_Bad_News: have you tried using it in gnome
[21:57] <joaopinto> joshritger, swap is temporary data, nothing that you care about
[21:57] <facefaceface> mib_ygbv1i, join the club _(
[21:57] <Garnol9155> apeiron i will just follow the ubuntu help page about KVM
[21:57] <flice> joaopinto: there are a lot of files that end with .so.1. it can't be that their version never changes
[21:57] <mib_ygbv1i> facefaceface: ???
[21:58] <facefaceface> mib_ygbv1i, ff3 right? in Gnome?
[21:58] <apeiron> Garnol9155, Okie, g'luck. I've never used it myself so I dunno what it can do.
[21:58] <smee2> ok...i want to learn to program in Linux, and the only language I have used is C.  Is there a good book that will teach me to program in Linux, using C as the language?
[21:58] <juro> zsquareplusc, I doubt that - there is no last resolution: http://pastebin.com/d5bd67043
[21:58] <mib_ygbv1i> facefaceface: yeaaah SHIT help me
[21:58] <Mr_Bad_News> no ikonia
[21:58] <mib_ygbv1i> i have a virus!!
[21:58] <facefaceface> smee2, yeah
[21:58] <ikonia> smee2: search amazon
[21:58] <Mr_Bad_News> i dont use gnome much anymore
[21:58] <facefaceface> mib_ygbv1i, wish I could
[21:58] <joshritger> joaopinto: when I go to restore the image, do I need to do a fresh install first?
[21:58] <joaopinto> flice, there are rules for .so naming, as long they keep binary compatible, they don't need to change the version
[21:58] <ikonia> Mr_Bad_News: be interested in trying it just to see if the auth framework is the key
[21:58] <shredder12> facefaceface: yes it has started working..
[21:58] <lyecdevf> http://img91.imageshack.us/my.php?image=sdfdou1.png
[21:58] <mib_ygbv1i> what is this facefaceface ??
[21:58] <smee2> i searched amazon, but I can't decide on a book
[21:58] <facefaceface> mib_ygbv1i, best you can do is go to 2 :(
[21:58] <ik-ook> from when the new version of hotmail started i cannot use the mail anymore
[21:58] <shredder12> facefaceface: and i used apt-get -s to simulate what i am doing..
[21:58] <mib_ygbv1i> ? =/
[21:58] <facefaceface> shredder12, coool
[21:58] <flice> joaopinto: so it's API version?
[21:58] <lyecdevf> I am having problems installing ubuntu 8.10\
[21:58] <lyecdevf> http://img91.imageshack.us/my.php?image=sdfdou1.png
[21:58] <mib_ygbv1i> whats 2???
[21:58] <joaopinto> joshritger, no, if you just have 1 partition, you will just need to boot from a live cd, and restore that partition
[21:58] <ikonia> smee2: read the reviews, - this is a question that is nothing to do with ubuntu
[21:58] <zleap> smee2: try local library its a good way of trying out books
[21:59] <Katmai2007> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=6199345#post6199345
[21:59] <facefaceface> mib_ygbv1i, its a problem with ff3 and gnome...
[21:59] <joaopinto> flice, ABI, API is for the source code, ABI is for the binaries ;)
[21:59] <facefaceface> its in centos as well as ubuntu...
[21:59] <mib_ygbv1i> oh noe! you know it facefaceface ?
[21:59] <facefaceface> mib_ygbv1i, ?
[21:59] <Biscuit> n8tuser http://paste.ubuntu.com/73513/ - as requested
[21:59] <mib_ygbv1i> ALSO on the trendmirco page facefaceface ?
[21:59] <joaopinto> flice, but yes, it relates to the source API :)
[21:59] <facefaceface> trendmicro?
[21:59] <flice> joaopinto: yep, thanks :)
[21:59] <joshritger> joaopinto: does it backup grub?
[21:59] <facefaceface> sooooooo....
[21:59] <mib_ygbv1i> facefaceface: trendmicro virus scan!
[21:59] <mib_ygbv1i> i need a virus scan!
[21:59] <facefaceface> it seems I have network manager installed (apt says 'latest version'), but I cant find it under the 'add to panel' list.
[21:59] <mib_ygbv1i> byt my ff crashes!!
[21:59] <mib_ygbv1i> on the housecall site
[21:59] <robertcarpenter> from the install cd, in rescue mode, is there a way to re-install the /usr/lib directory?
[22:00] <mib_ygbv1i> of trendmicro online scan
[22:00] <joaopinto> joshritger, it backs up the meny, not the MBR, for that you will need to use some mbr backup tool
[22:00] <facefaceface> mib_ygbv1i, use else
[22:00] <joaopinto> ops, the menu
[22:00] <facefaceface> heck, use ie
[22:00] <zleap> mib_ygbv1i: use Linux  you don't need a virus scanner with that
[22:00] <mib_ygbv1i> facefaceface: which one? =[ theres none
[22:00] <n8tuser> Biscuit looks good, you can   cd;  umount /mnt;  then reboot and select your ubuntu install  i hope
[22:00] <facefaceface> you can get ie under wine
[22:00] <mib_ygbv1i> zleap: yes i have a virus!!
[22:00] <Frogzoo> facefaceface: nope
[22:00] <alexei_> hi, is there a solution for those who enabled autologin and dont want to type in password for network manager to connect to wifi
[22:00] <mib_ygbv1i> ie?
[22:00] <mib_ygbv1i> how would i use ie
[22:00] <Biscuit> n8tuser, I will get right on it, merci beaucoup
[22:00] <facefaceface> Frogzoo, no to you too
[22:00] <facefaceface> mib_ygbv1i, install winie
[22:00] <zleap> you mean internet explorer
[22:00] <Frogzoo> facefaceface: ie hasn't worked for ages
[22:00] <facefaceface> or wine-ie...
[22:00] <kelvin911> can u install ubuntu in asus eee?
[22:00] <n8tuser> Biscuit-> always do a sync; sync; before rebooting
[22:00] <mib_ygbv1i> apt-get install wine ?????
[22:00] <zleap> you can use IE4linux
[22:00] <flice> is mib_ygbv1i crazy, or is there a virus lurking around on linux machines?
[22:00] <mib_ygbv1i> he
[22:00] <facefaceface> Frogzoo, there is a wine dude
[22:01] <mib_ygbv1i> he it does not work
[22:01] <facefaceface> who makes ie owrk...
[22:01] <mib_ygbv1i> hey flice i have a virus on windows but im in linux now to fix it
[22:01] <mib_ygbv1i> but there is no scanner
[22:01] <H__> joaopinto ( http://paste.ubuntu.com/73511/ ) to me it seems that the implied upgrade of kde3 to kde4 is causing havoc to the 8.04 to 8.10 dist-upgrade. I think I should remove all kde3, and those that depend on it. Does this make sense ? (and how to do this)
[22:01] <flice> mib_ygbv1i: oh, that's a relief :)
[22:01] <mib_ygbv1i> trendmicro housecall should work but it crashes my FF3
[22:01] <facefaceface> I though linux was just a collection of viruses?
[22:01] <kelvin911> i read on dell website, dell comes with ubuntu netbook remix, can that install in asus eee pc as well?
[22:01] <mib_ygbv1i> http://housecall.trendmicro.com/ here
[22:01] <zleap> there may be a live cd with anti virus on it, for fixing windows pc's with viruses
[22:01] <facefaceface> it seems I have network manager installed (apt says 'latest version'), but I cant find it under the 'add to panel' list.
[22:01] <Jordan_U> kelvin911: Yes, there is even a customized Ubuntu spinoff called eee-ubuntu
[22:01] <Lynet> Anyone with comitt-access to the ubuntu repositories here? There is a bug with pptp and storing keys to keychain in Intrepid, there is a fix in the bug report but it seems noone with the required access has taken a look at it and moved it to -proposed yet. https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager/+bug/284212
[22:02] <facefaceface> Can anyone help ?
[22:02] <lyecdevf> I am having problems installing Ubuntu 8.10
[22:02] <lyecdevf> http://img91.imageshack.us/my.php?image=sdfdou1.png
[22:02] <zsquareplusc> juro: the x server should choose the 1st valid entry in the screen->display->modes list. it will skip invalid ones. iirc
[22:02] <Biscuit> n8tuser received and understood
[22:02] <mib_ygbv1i> I NEED A VIRUS SCANNER Pls pls
[22:02] <othinspear> iv got problems with grub
[22:02] <ikonia> mib_ygbv1i: shouting won't help
[22:02] <kelvin911> but eee pc doesnt have dvd drive, how to install?
[22:02] <zsquareplusc> othinspear: clamav
[22:02] <ikonia> mib_ygbv1i: open synaptic and search for virus scanner
[22:02] <ikonia> mib_ygbv1i: then install one
[22:02] <juro> zsquareplusc, and what defines "invalid" ones?
[22:02] <tarelerulz> I need to recompile  my kernel and I need to know kind of hard drive I have.  How would I find that out?
[22:02] <robertcarpenter> kelvin911: you have to install it from usb
[22:02] <flice> mib_ygbv1i: you can make a new install of Windows inside VirtualBox and grant it access to the files on your real windows partition
[22:02] <mib_ygbv1i> hmm
[22:02] <mib_ygbv1i> ok
[22:02] <mib_ygbv1i> hmmmm
[22:02] <mib_ygbv1i> interesting flice
[22:02] <othinspear> saying myst be valid path or block list
[22:02] <FloodBot1> mib_ygbv1i: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:02] <H__> lyecdevf you have medium IO errors
[22:03] <facefaceface> tarelerulz, make and model or just type?
[22:03] <zsquareplusc> kelvin911: make a bootable USB stick. you can do that by running the intrepid live cd on an other pc
[22:03] <kelvin911> dell mini or asus eee pc? which one is better ?
[22:03] <Katmai2007> i have a question
[22:03] <Katmai2007> Does this look OK?
[22:03] <Katmai2007> http://img34.picoodle.com/img/img34/3/11/17/f_Screenshotm_7552605.png
[22:03] <facefaceface> ubottu, off topic @ kelvin911
[22:03] <apeiron> H__, For a virtual hard disk? o_O
[22:03] <akurei> Q: if there are ~1.5k people in here, why are people still able to do conversation?
[22:03] <shadowwulf> i need some advice, i have a desktop that came up black ... i am using ubuntu 8.10 .. how do i fix this driver issue ?
[22:04] <apeiron> akurei, 75% of the people here are lurkers.
[22:04] <shredder12> shadowwulf: what does came up black mean??
[22:04] <Katmai2007> Am I about to F things up royally or will it work out fine?
[22:04] <robertcarpenter> can the install cd reinstall the core system?  I nuked /usr/lib on accident
[22:04] <facefaceface> histo, may I please ask if I may ask to ask a question on this channel?
[22:04] <akurei> so it's like a BORG hive
[22:04] <akurei> =)
[22:04] <WelcomeToMyHome> no
[22:04] <facefaceface> why?
[22:04] <shadowwulf> shredder12,  i can log in to the machine .. but i have a cursor but no desktop ... i did have a desktop come up once .. but the colors were way skewed
[22:04] <tarelerulz> facefaceface ,  When I was using Gentoo I had no idea what kind of hard drive I have so I could build module to run the hhd .  This time I am trying to get fatx support .  I don't think Ubuntu has a package for that .
[22:04] <CelticLord> nuit!!
[22:05] <mib_ygbv1i> hey i need a real good linux scanner for linux to scan my win pc!~!!! hey is clamav ok i think it sucks it looks crapy pls honest opinions
[22:05] <WelcomeToMyHome> startx
[22:05] <juro> zsquareplusc, I'll be right back -> restart
[22:05] <Katmai2007> http://img34.picoodle.com/img/img34/3/11/17/f_Screenshotm_7552605.png
[22:05] <Katmai2007> Is that good???
[22:05] <Jordan_U> mib_ygbv1i: AVG has a linux version
[22:05] <flice> joaopinto: looks like the core of my (solved) problem was the fact that there was no pre-existing symlink from libnss.so to libnss.so.1d. looks like this is a common practice
[22:05] <src> Katmai2007, 4 GB of swap is quite high for normal "home" usage. else, it should work.
[22:05] <joaopinto> H__, the problem right now is to force the broken package removal, I don't remember the syntax right now :\
[22:05] <shredder12> shadowwulf: you mean you can log in but then a black screen appears..??
[22:05] <flice> joaopinto: a problem with Ubuntu packaging?..
[22:05] <Katmai2007> src: I have 4GB of memory
[22:05] <src> so?
[22:06] <mib_ygbv1i> wow cool Jordan_U
[22:06] <zsquareplusc> juro: hm. the x server somehow checks if the gfx card is able to setup up a give resultion. when you look at less /var/log/Xorg.0.log you see messages that tell which work and which won't
[22:06] <mib_ygbv1i> thx
[22:06] <mib_ygbv1i> will get that Jordan_U
[22:06] <shadowwulf> shredder12,  i can log in .. and that is whte ... but then the screen turns black and there is no desktop ... but i have a mouse cursor
[22:06] <Katmai2007> src: shouldn't the swap be the same size as the amount of memory you have?
[22:06] <H__> joaopinto ok, i'll search in that direction then. thanks for the help
[22:06] <Katmai2007> At least, that's what 3 people here told me
[22:06] <joaopinto> flice, I am not sure those links are mandatory...
[22:06] <Sicor> Hellp
[22:06] <shadowwulf> shredder12,  i think its a nvidia issue .. but i forgot how to fix it
[22:06] <Sicor> Hello
[22:06] <src> Katmai2007, not necessarily. I have servers with 16Gb of RAM and 2 GB of swap
[22:06] <shredder12> shadowwulf: have you tried to move to text mode use alt-ctrl-f1
[22:06] <Sicor> What type of linux are you using
[22:06] <Katmai2007> src: So I should shrink the swap down to 2 GB?
[22:07] <shredder12> shadowwulf: well had this happened with you earlier.
[22:07] <ikonia> Sicor: do you have a support request ?
[22:07] <zsquareplusc> Sicor: ubuntu of course
[22:07] <WelcomeToMyHome> type init 5
[22:07] <Katmai2007> Ubuntu 8.10
[22:07] <ikonia> Sicor: or a problem that needs fixing
[22:07] <ikonia> WelcomeToMyHome: why ?
[22:07] <shadowwulf> shredder12,  i am there no
[22:07] <src> Katmai2007, it's up to you. it's more about wasted space than "good or bad"
[22:07] <Sicor> What type, I use 8.10
[22:07] <Jordan_U> src: If he wants to be able to hybernate he should have at least the same size swap as RAM
[22:07] <shadowwulf> shredder12,  now
[22:07] <WelcomeToMyHome> to start graphical mode
[22:07] <kansan> how do i launch a program such that it isn't tied to the command line?  i.e. if i close my terminal, the program doesnt close?
[22:07] <ikonia> WelcomeToMyHome: no you don't
[22:07] <WelcomeToMyHome> or startx
[22:07] <flice> joaopinto: it is only logical for them to be mandatory, otherwise you can't install anything outside of packaging system
[22:07] <ikonia> WelcomeToMyHome: ubuntu uses run level 2
[22:07] <shadowwulf> shredder12,  this started when i upgraded
[22:07] <sonink> Does anyone know how to prevent input or switching to a specific virtual terminal without disabling it completely?
[22:07] <Jordan_U> kansan: program & disown
[22:07] <WelcomeToMyHome> for graphical mode?
[22:07] <ikonia> WelcomeToMyHome: yes
[22:07] <apeiron> kansan, screen or dtach
[22:07] <WelcomeToMyHome> in red hat is 5
[22:08] <Katmai2007> src: someone was also saying I should set mount points for the windows installs. is that really necessary?
[22:08] <ikonia> WelcomeToMyHome: your not using redhat
[22:08] <kansan> apeiron, are those 3rd party launchers
[22:08] <WelcomeToMyHome> well, ubuntu is debian based
[22:08] <ikonia> WelcomeToMyHome: so ?
[22:08] <src> Katmai2007, only if you want to access those, which you probably will
[22:08] <shredder12> shadowwulf: ya upgrade it screwed my system too..i was also having some nvidia issues when i had to format and reinstall hardy
[22:08] <apeiron> kansan, dtach is what Jordan_U said in one command. screen is a terminal multiplexer.
[22:08] <WelcomeToMyHome> i didnt know it
[22:08] <ikonia> WelcomeToMyHome: debian isn't redhat
[22:08] <Katmai2007> src: I do want to access them
[22:08] <WelcomeToMyHome> i thounght was the same
[22:08] <Katmai2007> src: will setting mountpoints on them hurt any data on the drives?
[22:08] <shadowwulf> shredder12,  ok, is there maybe a way to get the video to work ?
[22:08] <shredder12> shadowwulf: may be you should try posting it on some forums..they could help you in a better way...
[22:08] <src> Katmai2007, however you can always remove mount and umount stuff after you install. so don't worry about it
[22:08] <ikonia> WelcomeToMyHome: nah, ubuntu uses 1 and 2 only
[22:08] <src> Katmai2007, no
[22:08] <WelcomeToMyHome> hummm
[22:08] <Katmai2007> ok
[22:08] <WelcomeToMyHome> i think it can be
[22:09] <shadowwulf> shredder12,  havent found much ... i know i fixed this once here
[22:09] <ikonia> WelcomeToMyHome: it can be what ?
[22:09] <flice> joaopinto: do you frequent here, or just one-timer like myself?
[22:09] <Katmai2007> src: for both of them should I set the mountpoint to /windows ?
[22:09] <shredder12> shadowwulf: you can't even login why do you want to run a video..
[22:09] <WelcomeToMyHome> but level 1 is only for INIT process
[22:09] <zleap> http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/7729978.stm
[22:09] <ikonia> WelcomeToMyHome: no, level 1 is single user
[22:09] <src> Katmai2007, you have 2 partitions, you need 2 mount points
[22:09] <shadowwulf> shredder12,  i can login ... i am at a desktop ... but its blank
[22:09] <chippy> hi. is there a way to stop a window flashing. I'm using skype chat
[22:09] <WelcomeToMyHome> level 2 is multiuser and graphical mode???
[22:09] <ikonia> WelcomeToMyHome: correct
[22:09] <Katmai2007> src: ok. I'll set them both to ntfs and /windows
[22:10] <shredder12> shadowwulf: well i think you should try to go to text mode and try restarting gdb
[22:10] <WelcomeToMyHome> hummm, is diferent in red hat ...
[22:10] <Jordan_U> WelcomeToMyHome: Not quite, upstart, which Ubuntu uses, does not really have the concept of runlevels
[22:10] <src> Katmai2007, no. you set sdb1 to /windows1 and sdc1 to /windows2
[22:10] <ikonia> WelcomeToMyHome: yes, we've already established that
[22:10] <shadowwulf> shredder12,  whats the command for it
[22:10] <Katmai2007> src: /windows is the only option there
[22:10] <shredder12> shadowsulf: sudo  /etc/init.d/gdb restart
[22:10] <kansan> apeiron, what is difference between dtach and disown
[22:10] <WelcomeToMyHome> ok, i have to learn a bit more about this :D
[22:10] <src> Katmai2007, well then, i suggest you do it afterwards
[22:11] <Jordan_U> WelcomeToMyHome: I wouldn't say that runlevel 2 is the full graphical environment as much as there is no level 2
[22:11] <Katmai2007> ok
[22:11] <shredder12> shadowsulf: then switch back to graphical mode by pressing alt-ctrl-f5 or f7 try both of them i m not sure..
[22:11] <apeiron> kansan, dtach AFAIK is background launching and disown in one command.
[22:11] <Jordan_U> kansan: With dtach you can re-attach later, with disown you can't
[22:11] <robertcarpenter>
[22:11] <danub> what is the command to reinstall kubuntu-desktop?
[22:11] <shadowwulf> shredder12,  ok, whats the command line to restart gdb
[22:11] <WelcomeToMyHome> no levels? sorry i dont understand
[22:12] <ikonia> WelcomeToMyHome: there are runlevels
[22:12] <H__> joaopinto well, i'm having fun with this now : dpkg -l | grep kde | grep 3.5. | awk '{ print $2 }' | xargs dpkg -r
[22:12] <shredder12> shadowwulf: sudo /etc/init.d/gdb restart
[22:12] <the99zChris> hey can anyone help me out i have ubuntu 8.04 i believe on a inspiron 8100 laptop. suspend works on idle, but breaks video on lid closed suspend..?
[22:12] <shredder12> shadowwulf: doesn't it work??
[22:12] <johnflux> Hi all
[22:12] <danub> dpkg -i kubuntu-desktop?
[22:12] <shadowwulf> shredder12,  checking now
[22:12] <JohnFlux> I've just added an NVidia card to my system
[22:12] <ikonia> danub: apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[22:12] <shredder12> shadowwulf: oh i m sorry its "gdm" and not "gdb"
[22:12] <chamunks> is there a way to make ubuntu allow me to close processes during a lockup?
[22:12] <Jordan_U> danub: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[22:12] <zsquareplusc> danub: only if you have the deb there. use apt-get otherwise
[22:12] <danub> i need to reinstall it ikonia
[22:12] <JohnFlux> and I now X doesn't load up
[22:12] <brodymcd1> hi all - I have a Dell laptop with a Broadcom wireless card... with some support from folks like you, I got it working in 8.04... but I did an install to 8.10, and now it does not work again... can someone please help?
[22:12] <shredder12> shadowwulf: graphical desktop manager (gdm)
[22:13] <JohnFlux> how do I install the nvidia drivers please?
[22:13] <shadowwulf> shredder12,  thanks
[22:13] <JohnFlux> rather than nv
[22:13] <shredder12> np..
[22:13] <Jordan_U> chamunks: Try going to a tty with ctrl+alt+F1
[22:13] <danub> i installed kubuntu, apt-get ubuntu-desktop but it screwed up my kde side
[22:13] <danub> so i need to reinstall the kde version again
[22:13] <lappy> hi
[22:13] <danub> is there a way i can do that with apt-get?
[22:13] <shredder12> shadowwulf: at least in the graphical mode make sure you are able to access your stuff..
[22:14] <chamunks> Jordan_U, i tried and it just gives me a bunch of strange coloured (what appears to be) ascii art.
[22:14] <zsquareplusc> danub: just scroll up a few lines. you got 3 answers ;-)
[22:14] <mgolisch> danub: what did i mess up? besides the bootsplash it shouldt have done anything
[22:14] <the99zChris> can anyone help me on a laptop issue?
[22:14] <Spiffy> Oh hell
[22:14] <Spiffy> why the fuck is THIS the default channel?
[22:14] <chippy> hi. is there a way to stop a window flashing. I'm using skype chat
[22:14] <lappy> nvidea, I also have problems there, opengl dont work
[22:14] <ikonia> Spiffy: drop the language now please
[22:14] <k0d3r> does anybody here know how to install flashplayer on damn small linux?
[22:14] <LF|Irssi> eeks such foul language
[22:14] <joaopinto> flice, I am frequent here ;)
[22:14] <ikonia> Spiffy: it's default on ubuntu because it the most common channel ubuntu users will need
[22:14] <n8tuser> Biscuit-> how did it go?
[22:14] <zsquareplusc> k0d3r: this is ubuntu..
[22:15] <danub> my icons all show up as the same thing and in the kde version/gnome version the knetworkmanager stops running after i establish a connection to a network
[22:15] <Spiffy> No one needs to go here ...
[22:15] <k0d3r> sorry
[22:15] <shadowwulf> shredder12,  same result ... maybe its the video driver ?
[22:15] <danub> so i cant change what network i connect to or disconnect the wireless
[22:15] <ikonia> Spiffy: then leave
[22:15] <k0d3r> i thought ....
[22:15] <flice> joaopinto: may I ask, why?
[22:15] <k0d3r> i cannot find help in other places
[22:15] <Jordan_U> chamunks: Try booting without usplash and it may show correctly, for some reason with some hardware usplash corrupts video for ttys
[22:15] <mgolisch> danub: sounds strange, i dont have that problem
[22:15] <danub> lol i didn't either till ubuntu-desktop
[22:15] <Jordan_U> chamunks: You can also try sshing in from another machine
[22:15] <shredder12> shadowwulf: so you are not even able to access the text mode??
[22:15] <zsquareplusc> k0d3r: dsl is debian based. and if you want to change the live cd, search for "remaster". it has to do with unpack/chroot/repack
[22:16] <Spiffy> ikonia: Yes, I will. Now, eat ass.
[22:16] <shredder12> shadowwulf: same black screen agin??
[22:16] <WelcomeToMyHome> hi koder
[22:16] <shadowwulf> shredder12,  got text mode ... restarted and got the same result
[22:16] <k0d3r> ok thx
[22:16] <joaopinto> flice, to learn/help
[22:16] <WelcomeToMyHome> Just one question, Is there some way to get root account avalaible in ubuntu...
[22:16] <shredder12> shadowwulf: ok ..then it looks a bit complicated.. newaz.. are you able to access your stuff ...??
[22:16] <chamunks> Jordan_U, ahh sshing might work ... see i was in the middle of upgrading my dist and a program locked up the whole computer but its still installing just verry slowly
[22:17] <LF|Irssi> I cant get google earth working in Ibex, anyone know of a fix? It keep saying it can't detect my graphics card, it worked fine in 8.04
[22:17] <shadowwulf> shredder12,  text yes ... graphical no
[22:17] <danub> so what is the command to reinstall kubuntu-desktop
[22:17] <src> WelcomeToMyHome, root is available via sudo.
[22:17] <WelcomeToMyHome> i know
[22:17] <uechimadman> add
[22:17] <apeiron> heh. Is there an actual purpose for Google Earth besides 'gee whiz'?
[22:17] <shredder12> shadowwulf: ya it could be the video driver.. newaz.. were you provided with any drivers cd from the manufacturer..
[22:17] <omucuvaca> hy, when i start my pc with ubuntu installed, i get the startup logo of the os, and then it locks up...i tried to change xorg settings...any idea  how can i change the resolution/refresh rate?
[22:17] <danub> i cant use apt-get install kubuntu-desktop becaused the packages are already here obviously
[22:17] <WelcomeToMyHome> but i cannot do : su root ...
[22:17] <mysteryc> Hey.
[22:17] <the99zChris> does anyone know hoe to fix laptop suspend problems?
[22:18] <ikonia> WelcomeToMyHome: ubuntu uses sudo
[22:18] <KlrSpz> any idea why my pc randomly freezes going into X? i can boot off the cd 100% of the time, but locally it freezes the computer completely... i'm running ubuntu 8.04, on an intel gfx card, but using a default/basic xorg config (with NO modifications)
[22:18] <shadowwulf> shredder12,  nope, i think the last time i download a newer set of them
[22:18] <danub> WelcomeToMyHome: root is disabled by default
[22:18] <src> WelcomeToMyHome, set the root password
[22:18] <shadowwulf> shredder12,  BY APT-GET
[22:18] <mysteryc> Something's wrong with my mouse. It's set to be fast but it's reall really slow. Help? :
[22:18] <mysteryc> "S
[22:18] <mysteryc> :s
[22:18] <WelcomeToMyHome> hummm, my root password is set when i install...
[22:18] <ikonia> WelcomeToMyHome: no it's not
[22:18] <shredder12> then may be you should do the same this time too.. in text mode..if you remember their names..
[22:18] <apeiron> WelcomeToMyHome, no
[22:18] <mgolisch> danub: use apt-cache depends kubuntu-desktop and reinstall everypackage of that with apt-get install --reinstall packagename ?
[22:18] <ikonia> WelcomeToMyHome: ubuntu locks the root account
[22:18] <apeiron> WelcomeToMyHome, That's the user you're supposed to use to sudo to root.
[22:18] <apeiron> WelcomeToMyHome, It tells you this.
[22:18] <flice> joaopinto: you sound like one that has gone a long way of learning already :) is the signal-to-noise ratio still high enough to prefer this way of learning?
[22:18] <ikonia> WelcomeToMyHome: I suggest you read the docs on ubuntu.com
[22:18] <src> WelcomeToMyHome, no it's not. try this sudo passwd root . then su -
[22:19] <ikonia> src: thats not recommended
[22:19] <Jordan_U> chamunks: If it's slow because you are running out of memory then linux will eventually kill the process using the most RAM, but that won't happen until you run out of swap space
[22:19] <n8tuser> Biscuit-> how did it go?
[22:19] <src> ikonia, why not!?
[22:19] <H__> joaopinto just FYI, my blunt "dpkg -l | grep kde | grep 3.5. | awk '{ print $2 }' | xargs dpkg -r" and subsequent "apt-get -f install -f" at least allows "apt-get dist-upgrade" to continue (it's still running)
[22:19] <src> i guess NOPASSWD in sudoers is not recommended either
[22:19] <ikonia> src: ubuntu puts a fair bit of effort into the security policy, so setting the root password sort of bypasses that
[22:19] <mysteryc> WelcomeToMyHome: Just type sudo bash then it will ask you for your password. enter it and for that session you won't need to type sudo, you do everything as root :)
[22:19] <WelcomeToMyHome> ok, thaks for the info, i will search and test it a bit,
[22:19] <chamunks> Jordan_U, thats probably not happening i have like a 3 gig swap lol :'(
[22:19] <zsquareplusc> LF|Irssi: i'm no help. i can just say that earth worked here before and after the upgrade (just checked). but i didnt reinstall it.
[22:19] <danub> mgolisch: wouldnt it just be easier to swap to gnome version and then do apt-get remove --purge kubuntu-desktop;apt-get install kubuntu-desktop?
[22:19] <ikonia> src: if your sharp enough to know to set it, I think it's reasonable to set it
[22:19] <sonink> Does anyone know how to prevent input or switching to a specific virtual terminal without disabling it completely?
[22:20] <mysteryc> Something's wrong with my mouse. It's set to be fast but it's reall really slow. Help? :s
[22:20] <the99zChris> i have another question, does automatic partition in install have a habit of making too small of a swap partition?
[22:20] <Dr_willis> sonink,  you could some how not have the login program run on that console.
[22:20] <Biscuit> n8tuser, I've been going back thorugh everything you said but simply cannot fathom why I'm failing with the cd;  umount /mnt; - it says not in the fstab (and you are not root)
[22:20] <mgolisch> danub: that wont do anything as kubuntu-desktop is just a metapackage, it wont uninstall or reinstall any of its dependecies
[22:20] <n8tuser> Biscuit-> in the liveCD ?
[22:20] <danub> dangit
[22:20] <LF|Irssi> ok zsquareplusc it's probably my nvidia, it has been acting bad since the upgrade to 8.10 :/
[22:20] <src> ikonia, actually i can see why you want your root to be set and enable securetty on some console. if your sudoers gets corrupted, you'd have a problem recovering without booting on the cd or network
[22:21] <shredder12> the99zChris: i don't think that is small.. its probably the adequate amount..
[22:21] <KlrSpz> the99zChris: how small is too small? i almost never use my partition, like 99.9% of the time
[22:21] <danub> ok
[22:21] <Biscuit> n8tuser, yes
[22:21] <danub> hardway it is then
[22:21] <sonink> dr_willis, I have a terminal automatically logging in, but I don't want anyone to be able to switch to it / use it
[22:21] <ikonia> src: not at all
[22:21] <ikonia> src: boot into single user
[22:21] <n8tuser> Biscuit-> thats okay, you can just type sync; sync;  and reboot
[22:21] <Biscuit> n8tuser I have not rebooted yet as I haven't managed to get it to accept your instruction
[22:21] <src> or that. bottom line is you'd have to reboot
[22:21] <Dr_willis> sonink,  then whats the point of it?
[22:21] <ikonia> src: thats not a problem
[22:21] <src> which in a production environment is unacceptable
[22:21] <Biscuit> n8tuser ok I'm on it
[22:21] <shredder12> the99zChri9z: what's the size of swap you have been alloted?? hardly any portion of swap is used..
[22:21] <the99zChris> well, my video players close when playing a big m,ovie and i go fullscreen during play.
[22:21] <yates> why is ld-linux.so.2 hogging about 56 percent of my cpu time?
[22:22] <ikonia> src: if your using it in a production environment I think you'd know how to run a box, therefore set a root password
[22:22] <zsquareplusc> LF|Irssi: nvidia here too. but i have no problems (except that the 1st monitor is the wrong one when i plug in 2)
[22:22] <src> :)
[22:22] <ikonia> src: if you need to be told how to set the password, I think you don't need it
[22:22] <KlrSpz> the99zChris: pastebin.com your results from free -m
[22:22] <shredder12> the99Chris: no i don't think so..
[22:22] <src> if he breaks it, he'll learn a lot of new interesting things
[22:22] <the99zChris> i have 512 mb ram btw
[22:22] <src> i always learn by breaking stuff
[22:22] <aLeSD> hi all
[22:22] <sonink> dr_willis: it runs a script that boots a virtual machine, but a user can switch to the terminal and Ctrl+C to kill it and have access via that account.   I'm thinking to edit the samba config files ... is it a right policy with ubuntu ?
[22:23] <chamunks> Jordan_U, Ohhh man i cant believe that ssh'ing into the box worked!
[22:23] <robacarp1> is there a way to do a non-destructive re-installation of ubuntu?
[22:23] <KlrSpz> shredder12: i asked for his free -m results; that should tell us everything
[22:24] <chamunks> Jordan_U, i have no idea how to kill a process tho.
[22:24] <src> KlrSpz, gentoo is a whole different kind of beast
[22:24] <apeiron> chamunks, kill
[22:24] <apeiron> chamunks, Some things in Unix are *too* obvious. :)
[22:24] <shredder12> KlrSpz: ok
[22:24] <aLeSD> robacarp1: define non-destructive
[22:24] <KlrSpz> src: heh, yeah.. used that for about 9 years, now messing with ubuntu is a lot easier if something breaks
[22:24] <chamunks> apeiron, yeah lol,  Now how in the command line do i find out which task is locking up the system?
[22:24] <KlrSpz> chamunks: top
[22:25] <Jordan_U> chamunks: The desktop side of Linux is much less stable than the *NIX heart, ssh will almost never fail you ( unless you loose your network connection of course )
[22:25] <KlrSpz> chamunks: i also suggest installing htop
[22:25] <the99zChris> got it, http://paste.ubuntu.com/73524/
[22:25] <the99zChris> from free -m
[22:25] <aLeSD> chamunks: top ?
[22:25] <robacarp1> aLeSD: I'd like my system to be working again, but I don't want to reconfigure samba et al
[22:25] <Jordan_U> chamunks: Do you know what process needs to be killed?
[22:25] <Biscuit> n8tuser I hate to say it but despite your hard work, I've rebooted and am just back to busybox
[22:25] <chamunks> KlrSpz, i havnt the luxury of installation at the moment
[22:25] <robacarp1> aLeSD: I'd like to not have to re-add all the users to the machine, too
[22:26] <aLeSD> robacarp1: it's a good choise to understand what you need in /etc folder
[22:26] <KlrSpz> the99zChris: well, you hardly have ANY ram (looks to be only 512mb), and have 1.5gb for swap; i'd say your swap is overkill for 1, and for 2, you need more ram if you're running compiz or something
[22:26] <chamunks> Jordan_U, i suspect that its amsn i accidentally loaded it and it pooped.
[22:26] <KlrSpz> any idea why my pc randomly freezes going into X? i can boot off the cd 100% of the time, but locally it freezes the computer completely... i'm running ubuntu 8.04, on an intel gfx card, but using a default/basic xorg config (with NO modifications)
[22:26] <zsquareplusc> network booting the livecd.. it doesnt find the network driver in the initrd. someone with experience in that field?
[22:26] <shredder12> the99zChris: why in the world do you think that ur swap is less..its around 1.5 GB
[22:26] <yates>  /quit
[22:26] <aLeSD> robacarp1: and I imaine that you have a partition for the /home folder ....
[22:26] <zleap> try the x.org log file things see if anything shows u
[22:26] <zleap> up
[22:27] <KlrSpz> zleap: me? yeah i have, nothing REAL interesting, lemme pastebin it
[22:27] <the99zChris> yeah i am, thanks for tellin me about free -m though lol. i haven't used linux in a while and work alot so i couldn't remember how to check
[22:27] <aLeSD> ok ... I will configure samba by hand
[22:27] <Jordan_U> chamunks: "pgrep amsn" to see if it's running ( it will output the process id ) then "pkill amsn" or "kill pid" to kill it
[22:27]  * unnamed teste
[22:27] <shredder12> the99zChris: np
[22:27]  * unnamed test
[22:27] <unnamed> hmm
[22:27] <zoople> Hi all, having trouble with my ethernet connection on this release of Ubuntu. Has worked sweetly in Hardy and previous ones, but for some reason this time, im getting some issues.
[22:27] <robacarp1> aLeSD: sorry, "its a good choice to understand what you need in /etc folder" I dont understand.  /home is not in a separate partition
[22:27]  * unnamed test
[22:28] <Jordan_U> unnamed: Please stop
[22:28] <n8tuser> Biscuit-> when you rebooted, do you at least get to see the grub menu, to select the different os'es ?
[22:28] <zoople> getting lets of network unreachable errors
[22:28] <Biscuit> n8tuser, I get the bootmenu that says WinXP or ubuntu, yes
[22:28] <the99zChris> would u happen to know how to change my lid closed suspend to the same suspend as idle screen off?
[22:28] <src> zoople, how does your routing table look like?
[22:28] <zleap> brb going to find food
[22:28] <zoople> ill just post my pastebucket link
[22:28] <zoople> http://www.pastebucket.net/73v2j2
[22:28] <zoople> thats a few tests i did
[22:28] <FloodBot1> zoople: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:28] <aLeSD> robacarp1: imagine how wonderfull it will be if it was on a different partition ...
[22:29] <src> zoople, you don't have an ip address
[22:29] <YlandeFaran> Is there any easy command/program to se some specification of my system? ie, info about processor/ram/hd/graphic etc
[22:29] <aLeSD> you could format everything and after mount your old home
[22:29] <zoople> yeah but ive set it statically
[22:29] <zoople> so i dont get what the deal is
[22:29] <robacarp1> aLeSD: I am now seeing this.  but that wouldn't backup my users/passwords
[22:29] <chamunks> Jordan_U, hmm amsn doesent show on the pgrep
[22:29] <ntndo> Is it typical for Ubuntu to report more HDD capacity than windows?  Back when windows was installed as the only OS it showed 80GB hd capacty, Ubuntu shows 150GB
[22:30] <chamunks> Jordan_U, can you force a user to log out via cli?
[22:30] <aLeSD> robacarp1: it's a bit complicated ... I mean easy to backup ... but maybe hard to restore lol
[22:30] <src> zoople ifconfig eth0 <your ip address> netmask <whatever your netmask> then route add default gw <whatever your gateway is>
[22:30] <aLeSD> there're two files in /etc
[22:30] <ikonia> chamunks kill their shell
[22:30] <zsquareplusc> ntndo: hm. and how big should the disk be?
[22:30] <zoople> ok right, ill give that a go
[22:30] <aLeSD> passwd and groups I think
[22:30] <ntndo> I'm not sure actually.
[22:30] <Hagg1> Hi, can anyone guide me how to setup a common directory which should be writable and readable to a group? Ive tried umask 002 on the users, but the new files does not inherit the group ownership
[22:30] <zoople> thanks
[22:30] <ikonia> Hagg1: you need to put the sticky bit on the dir
[22:30] <ntndo> zsquareplusc: windows said 60, Ubuntu says 150
[22:30] <KlrSpz> http://www.pastebin.ca/1259780 --- doesn't show anything majorly out of wack, but randomly it freezes when starting XORG, any ideas? My xorg config is the default that dpkg-reconfigure spits out without specifying driver or resolution or anything.. when it works, it works fine... but that's rare, and i have to reboot the pc when it locks
[22:30] <robacarp1> aLeSD: right...do I need to restore them in single user mode or something?
[22:30] <aLeSD> robacarp1: but you have to understand more of unix-like system if you want to proceed in that way
[22:31] <Jordan_U> chamunks: You can kill their gnome-session, be careful though because if you "log out" the user that is running update manager the upgrade will stop
[22:31] <n8tuser> Biscuit-> reboot and boot from the liveCD then we mount that /dev/sdd5 again and do some reconfiguring
[22:31] <chamunks> ikonia, i would do my own research on this but im working from my netbook and its cramped
[22:31] <zsquareplusc> ntndo: yes, but how big is it really? i mean whats written in the label?
[22:31] <Biscuit> n8tuser I'm om it
[22:31] <koshari> Hagg1 why cant you just change the permissions?
[22:31] <Baatti> I'm having an issue with my wireless network connection. I just turned on my computer and normally the connection starts automatically.  But this time it didn't.  It doesn't show any wireless networks available, only 'hidden networks' ... when I chose my network (that usually isn't hidden), and enter my password, it won't connect....help me please
[22:31] <ikonia> chamunks: just open a browser
[22:31] <Hagg1> ikonia: I've tried with 2770 on the directory, but that acted very strange with some users not allowed to read from the directory any more
[22:31] <ntndo> I'd have to take it out to find out
[22:31] <aLeSD> robacarp1: if u just restore that files ...
[22:31] <chamunks> Jordan_U, :S
[22:31] <robacarp1> aLeSD: well, I'll need to make sure that the user ids are all the same, right
[22:31] <aLeSD> and group id
[22:31] <ikonia> Hagg1: setguid if you want it to take the grop permissions
[22:32] <aLeSD> the name could change
[22:32] <chamunks> ikonia, i can only communicate with the computer via ssh right now the gdm is locked up but the update manager is still running my dist upgrade.
[22:32] <zsquareplusc> ntndo: and where do you see that space? the disk free application for example summs up all memory it finds, not just the 1st hd
[22:32] <Hagg1> koshari: because then user1 can not read/write to user2's files in that directory
[22:32] <aLeSD> we 're all numbers
[22:32] <aLeSD> uid numbers
[22:32] <ikonia> chamunks: just do a who and kill the shell of the person you want to kill
[22:32] <herrmess> !russian
[22:32] <ntndo> zsquareplusc: disk usage analyser
[22:32] <koshari> Hagg1 set the owner as a group and add the users to that group
[22:32] <robacarp1> yea.
[22:32] <Baatti> I'm having an issue with my wireless network connection. I just turned on my computer and normally the connection starts automatically.  But this time it didn't.  It doesn't show any wireless networks available, only 'hidden networks' ... when I chose my network (that usually isn't hidden), and enter my password, it won't connect....help me please
[22:33] <Baatti> how do I stop my wireless networks from being 'hidden'?
[22:33] <ikonia> Baatti: change it on the router
[22:33] <aLeSD> robacarp1: and think on a partition for your /home ... it's very usefull
[22:33] <zsquareplusc> ntndo: that the one with the circle showing the sizes? that tool sums up all it finds.
[22:33] <ntndo> yea
[22:33] <Hagg1> ikonia: yes, and 2770 is setguid + rw-rw----
[22:33] <chamunks> Jordan_U, this is so strange i cant imagine whats locking this up..
[22:33] <Baatti> ikonia no, not my personnal network, ALL wireless networks that are normally available, and NOT HIDDEN
[22:33] <Hagg1> ikonia: if I'm not mistaken
[22:34] <perfect> server irc.krakow.pl
[22:34] <ikonia> Baatti: if networks are hidden it's because the router is not broadcasting sid
[22:34] <Hagg1> ikonia: or rwxrwx--- I menat
[22:34] <robacarp1> aLeSD: well, I am set on having /home on its own partition for sure now, but I still have a limping system with 15 users files on it....and they'd probably not like their passwords reset....its borked
[22:34] <Baatti> ikonia I normally see like, 12 wireless networks available right here where I'm sitting...
[22:34] <Baatti> currently NONE of them are listed...
[22:35] <ikonia> Baatti: are they key based ?
[22:35] <Baatti> ikonia key?  like WPA?
[22:35] <aLeSD> robacarp1: if you 're not going to delete your /home
[22:35] <ikonia> Baatti: that could be one way, you cant see the networks if you don't have the keys
[22:35] <aLeSD> you can simply restore passwd ans groups
[22:35] <zsquareplusc> Baatti: hardware antenna switch on laptop?
[22:36] <Hagg1> koshari: there is no special ower, I see it more like a lot of users own the directory together, and everybody that is a member of the group should be able to read and write to all files in the directory
[22:36] <Baatti> zsquareplusc yes, it's on
[22:36] <chamunks> Jordan_U, maybe ill just let it run through for the night even though it says its going to take 13 hours
[22:36] <robacarp1> aLeSD: will reinstalling without reformatting (leave the partitions, fs intact) pick up my current /home?
[22:37] <sobersabre> hi. I have found a small bug in esvn package (it's not really a bug, it's a packaging issue)
[22:37] <sobersabre> how do I report/fix it ?
[22:37] <Biscuit> n8tuser ok I'm back in livecd ubuntu and have my terminal open and ready to go
[22:37] <aLeSD> robacarp1: dunno I'm nooby in ubuntu ...I don't know how their scripts work
[22:37] <Baatti> so um...yeah...how do I make my wireless stop HIDING available networks?
[22:37] <zsquareplusc> Hagg1: there is the "users" group. chown the folder to that group. make it g=rw, and maybe set s bit too
[22:38] <Hagg1> koshari: at the moment, I have all the users in a group "test" and the directory is chgrp to "test" and has "chmod 1770 test", it seams to work, but some users is not even able to read files correctly
[22:38] <robacarp1> aLeSD: yea....I think I am going to pull the hd and swap it out for the same and install fresh there....then copy files over.  I'll manually set the user and group ids if I have to
[22:38] <src> Hagg1, check permissions on the file
[22:39] <robacarp1> aLeSD: this whole nonsense started when I nuked /usr/lib .... a big accident .... :-(
[22:39] <MikeH> I'm trying to install ubuntu on my laptop, however, it takes ages to get to the Language selection screen, and after selecting my language
[22:39] <src> how the hell do you nuke /usr/lib even by accident!?
[22:39] <Hagg1> src: thanks, I think I've found the problem
[22:39] <MikeH> it appears to freeze, whilst the animated cursor is still going, nothing has happened for over 20mins.
[22:39] <MikeH> any ideas/
[22:40] <aLeSD> robacarp1: evolution is an accident ... so ... be happy
[22:40] <aLeSD> :D
[22:40] <KlrSpz> http://www.pastebin.ca/1259780 --- doesn't show anything majorly out of wack, but randomly it freezes when starting XORG, any ideas? My xorg config is the default that dpkg-reconfigure spits out without specifying driver or resolution or anything.. when it works, it works fine... but that's rare, and i have to reboot the pc when it locks
[22:40] <aLeSD> I mean the Darwin evolution stuff ... not the email client
[22:41] <ohubuntu_> something weird keeps happening... whenever i open mozilla and do a search for anything containing the word 'transparent'... firefox closes.... what's going on
[22:41] <robacarp> aLeSD: right *chuckle* ....i'll not start the religous debate, but I get to upgrade the machine from gutsy so that'll be good anyways
[22:41] <src> science != religion
[22:41] <aLeSD> well good luck
[22:41] <Wald1> Anyone else have a problem with GIMP's save window going all crazy when you expand the file types menu?
[22:41] <robacarp> aLeSD: thanks for bouncing ideas off of my head
[22:41] <Pangea> My fresh Ubuntu server 8.04 with Xen (install ubuntu-xen-server) is broken!
[22:41] <Whabo> ˙ǝɹoɟǝq pǝuǝddɐɥ ɹǝʌǝu ¿ɯooqɐʞ ʇuǝʍ pɹɐoqʎǝʞ ʎɯ puɐ xnuıן pǝןןɐʇsuı ı ǝsɐǝןd sʎnnƃ dןǝɥ
[22:41] <aLeSD> and keep attention to the dark side
[22:41] <Pangea> ImportError: /usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/xen/lowlevel/xc.so: undefined symbol: xc_domain_setcpuweight
[22:42]  * robacarp walks away
[22:42] <Whabo> ˙ǝɹoɟǝq pǝuǝddɐɥ ɹǝʌǝu ¿ɯooqɐʞ ʇuǝʍ pɹɐoqʎǝʞ ʎɯ puɐ xnuıן  pǝןןɐʇsuı ı ǝsɐǝןd sʎnnƃ dןǝɥ
[22:42] <aLeSD> Whabo: adin , drva , tri
[22:42] <Pangea> what's happen with Xen on Hardy ? this sucks! I can't start xend !!
[22:42] <Zeroyez> How come when I try to apt-get install firefox, it comes up with over 180 MB of dependancies, most being gnome tools?
[22:43] <apeiron> Zeroyez, Because that's what Firefox uses on Linux.
[22:43] <Whabo>  ¿ǝɯ dןǝɥ uɐɔ ʇɐɥʇ ǝuoʎuɐ ǝɹǝɥʇ sı ¿ʇɐɥʇ sı ʇɐɥʍ
[22:43] <Pangea> Can someone help me?
[22:43] <Finiras> why can't i format as ntfs using gparted and how to fix it?
[22:43] <Zeroyez> I see, can I install iceweasel instead?
[22:43] <apeiron> um
[22:43] <aLeSD> Whabo: I could if you write in the right sense
[22:43] <apeiron> That won't change anything.
[22:44] <apeiron> Iceweasel is 99% Firefox.
[22:44] <Zeroyez> When I used debian, iceweasel had no dependancy on gnome utilities...
[22:44] <aLeSD> lol
[22:44] <zsquareplusc> Whabo: seriously? left-to-right switch wrong? some languages are written in that direction
[22:44] <erUSUL> Finiras: installing ntfsutils ??
[22:44] <Pangea> WTF
[22:44] <ohubuntu_> does firefox usually close when you type 'transparent' somewhere in it?
[22:44]  * aLeSD "Whabo is funny"
[22:44] <retro_> no
[22:44] <Finiras> erusul: Couldn't find package ntfsutils
[22:44] <Finiras> aptiget
[22:45] <erUSUL> Finiras: ntfsprogs
[22:45] <Whabo> ˙sǝןıɟ ƃıɟuoɔ ǝɥʇ ssǝɔɔɐ ʇouuɐɔ ı puɐ 'ןɐuıɯɹǝʇ ɥǝʇ uı uǝʌǝ uʍop ǝpısdn sı ʇxǝʇ ʎɯ ˙ʍou dn pǝssǝɯ sı pɹɐoqʎǝʞ ʎɯ puɐ doʇdɐן ʎɯ uo nʇunqn pǝןןɐʇsuı ʇsnɾ ı 'pspǝןɐ
[22:45] <crdlb> Whabo: please cut it out
[22:45] <Biscuit> n8tuser anything left in the tank for my broken ubu?
[22:45] <LjL> Whabo: that was boring two years ago already
[22:46] <Finiras> thanks erusul
[22:46] <Zeroyez> ex. on debian I'd apt-get install xfce4 xdm, then i'd do apt-get install iceweasel (it would say around 11 MB), i'd do the same on an ubuntu install except the only difference is now firefox requires 180 MB and a crapload of gnome utils
[22:46] <chamunks> Jordan_U, thanks lots for the help.
[22:46] <Jordan_U> chamunks: np
[22:46] <src> take care
[22:46] <yates> something's seriously wrong with my ubuntu system
[22:47] <Katmai2007> thanks for your help everyine
[22:47] <yates> 8.04
[22:47] <Whabo>  ˙ǝɹǝɥ ɯoɹɟ dןǝɥ ʎuɐ ƃuıʇʇǝƃ ǝq ʇuoʍ ı ssǝnƃ ı xɥʇ
[22:47] <LjL> Zeroyez: it doesn't really *require* them... you're probably thinking of "ubufox", which is a recommends, not a depends
[22:47] <Jordan_U> yates: What?
[22:47] <yates> it's been working fine for a few months
[22:47] <minimec> Zeroyez: Firefox should'nt have any gnome dependancies... As you can install it on a kde desktop whitout problems...
[22:47] <goldmetal> how to make usb flash drive bootable.  i have linux iso on flash drive.
[22:47] <yates> just now, it's started hanging,
[22:47] <LjL> Zeroyez: recommends are installed by default in ubuntu, but you can avoid installing them by doing "sudo aptitude --without-recommends install packagename"
[22:47] <Guest50508> hay do uuids change on reboot?  cause in my fstab the devs keep changing on restart and i dont understand why
[22:47] <n8tuser> Biscuit->open a terminal again and  sudo -i
[22:47] <robacarp> is Intrepid stable enough for a samba PDC ?
[22:48] <Biscuit> n8tuser done
[22:48] <Zeroyez> mmk, so I can still run firefox perfectly without recommends, yes?
[22:48] <poboy975linux> hello got another question
[22:48] <yates> with Xorg and from one to two ld-something.so.2 processes together sucking 100 percent cpu
[22:48] <LjL> Guest50508: UUIDs shouldn't change, they're actually made to be as long-lived as possible
[22:48] <yates> brings the system to its knees
[22:48] <richubuntu> hi every1!
[22:48] <LjL> Zeroyez: if you can't, then that would be a bug in the package.
[22:48] <Zeroyez> alright, thanks alot :)
[22:48] <minimec> Zeroyez: I guess... yes.
[22:49] <poboy975linux> anyone know why firefox wont open thepiratebay.org? nor microsoft.org? there are several websites it wont open, unless im using a proxy
[22:49] <richubuntu> does any1 know how I can make my wireless card work?
[22:49] <n8tuser> Biscuit-> mount  /dev/sdd5 /mnt
[22:49] <yates> the only thing i can recall that changed today was that i installed the mail-notification applet
[22:49] <LjL> poboy975linux: have you tried with another browser? that sounds very much like a problem unrelated to ubuntu
[22:49] <yates> anyone seen this behavior before?
[22:49] <Jordan_U> poboy975linux: Are you running an old intrepid install ( not update to final ) ?
[22:50] <poboy975linux> yeah, I tried opera, same thing. is there a firefox channel?
[22:50] <rambo3> poboy975linux, ping thepiratebay.org
[22:50] <poboy975linux> i'm running hardy 8.04
[22:50] <Biscuit> n8tuser - I get: mount: special device /dev/sdd5 does not exist
[22:50] <ampleyfly> I'm having some strange problem here... if I click Places -> Home folder (or any other folder), banshee pops up O.o
[22:50] <rambo3> poboy975linux, try direct ip
[22:50] <LjL> poboy975linux: wait. you just said you tried opera and it's the same thing, *so* you want to go to a firefox-specific channel? how does that make sense?
[22:50] <n8tuser> Biscuit-> fdisk -l  again and paste in pastebin the results..seems your hd mapping keeps on changing
[22:50] <zoople> Hi, i was having troubles earlier with my ethernet. Tried to set it with ifconfig and that did not work
[22:50] <Great_Gatsby> i cant connect to wireless
[22:50] <LjL> poboy975linux: your router, or your ISP, is probably blocking those sites, or one of the ISP's links is down, most likely.
[22:51] <poboy975linux> ok, just a sec pinging
[22:51] <Great_Gatsby> im connected
[22:51] <zoople> i got a "no buffer space available" error
[22:51] <yates> Jordan_U: any ideas?
[22:51] <Jordan_U> ampleyfly: Right click any directory in nautilus, go to properties and change the "open with" preference to "open folder"
[22:51] <Great_Gatsby> but im only receiving bytes at a time
[22:51] <quentusrex> Does anyone know how a business can setup and install their own Ubuntu based GPG keyserver?
[22:51] <ampleyfly> Jordan_U: hey, thanks =)
[22:51] <ampleyfly> Jordan_U: any idea why it does this? O.o
[22:51] <poboy975linux> ok here ping resultshttp://paste.ubuntu.com/73544/
[22:51] <Jordan_U> ampleyfly: np
[22:52] <Guest50508> LjL: /dev's should be changing either unless i change the position of my drives....but everytime i restart all the drives are being mounted to wrong locations cause the devs slightly change....any ideas?  should i use the uuid instead of the /dev/sda1 stuff?
[22:52] <poboy975linux> sorry, I dont normally use opera, only installed to try see if it would work
[22:52] <Great_Gatsby> http://pastebin.com/m1c20c076
[22:52] <zoople> im beggining to think it may be a driver issue? as my ethernet worked fine in previous releases
[22:52] <erUSUL> Guest50508: yes; you should use uuid
[22:52] <Great_Gatsby> can someone help me
[22:52] <rambo3> poboy975linux,  that looks ok
[22:52] <Biscuit> n8tuser http://paste.ubuntu.com/73545/
[22:52] <Jordan_U> ampleyfly: It's a bug ( I think it only existed in the intrepid beta, did you upgrade early )
[22:52] <LjL> Guest50508: yes, of course you should use the UUIDs, they exist to avoid that sort of problems to begin with. but i wouldn't know why your /dev/ files would change like that
[22:52] <Great_Gatsby> im connected to wireless it says 100/100  but im only getting a couple bits at a time
[22:52] <Great_Gatsby> http://pastebin.com/m1c20c076
[22:53] <Guest50508> erUSUL
[22:53] <Guest50508> how do i list out the ssids for each dev?
[22:53] <Guest50508> the uuids
[22:53] <Guest50508> sorry
[22:53] <poboy975linux> when I try thepiratebay.org it just sits there, and does nothing
[22:53] <ikonia> Guest50508: blikd
[22:53] <ampleyfly> Jordan_U: Yeah
[22:53] <ikonia> poboy975linux: don't use illegal wares sites then
[22:53] <LjL> poboy975linux: on my browser, it redirects to the police's site. perhaps that's what you're experiencing.
[22:53] <erUSUL> !uuid > Guest50508
[22:54] <n8tuser> Biscuit-> yes, your hd keeps on shifting every reboot,  is there something in the bios where you can set the correct mapping? and boot priority?
[22:54] <yates> hello?
[22:54] <yates> 100 percent cpu time problem, anyone?
[22:54] <xikkub> hi
[22:54] <LjL> Great_Gatsby, that interface has no IP address assigned, so it's not really very connected. what's on the other hand, a DSL router?
[22:54] <Biscuit> n8tuser I can certainly have a look, boot to BIOS then?
[22:54] <poboy975linux> ok but why is it redirecting? i have a windows computer on same internet connection and it works just fine
[22:54] <aLeSD> yates: depends are u running second life client ?
[22:54] <xikkub> search for viruses? shutdown unused programs
[22:54] <lumgwada> hi, is it possible to set new files  default group name in your bashrc as well as the  umask?
[22:54] <ikonia> poboy975linux: not up for disscussion
[22:55] <yates> no
[22:55] <yates> aLeSD: no
[22:55] <Great_Gatsby> yes LjL
[22:55] <aLeSD> yates: I mean ... 100 % cpu usage is normal if the cpu is doing something
[22:55] <tommyd> lumgwada: set your primary group
[22:55] <yates> no shit?
[22:55] <lumgwada> tommyd: thanks
[22:55] <aLeSD> yates: start finding who is using your cpu
[22:55] <yates> damn, thanks for that fine advice, aLeSD.
[22:55] <poboy975linux> ikonia: what do you mean?
[22:55] <ikonia> poboy975linux: not going to help you get to that site
[22:56] <storrgie> I need networking help with my machine, anyone have a moment?
[22:56] <Great_Gatsby> LjL, this has been happening for four weeks now , my wireless just suddenly quit on me and now when i try to connect this happens
[22:56] <yates> i know who is using it. and i stated it here. look up! ^^^^
[22:56] <tommyd> (hint: usermod -G groupname username)
[22:56] <poboy975linux> it wont let me open microsoft.com either
[22:56] <ikonia> yates: careful on the lagnauge please
[22:56] <poboy975linux> nor hotmail.com
[22:56] <n8tuser> Biscuit-> yeah, you have to reboot, and see what your bios have..see if there something there where the hd can be fixed to one lable
[22:56] <ikonia> language even
[22:56] <n8tuser> label
[22:56] <Guest50508> so the # in the fstab file is like commenting out the line like // is?
[22:56] <Baatti> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=6199852#post6199852
[22:56] <Baatti> help
[22:56] <poboy975linux> i dont think microsoft or hotmail.com are illegal sites
[22:56] <ikonia> poboy975linux: didn't say it was
[22:57] <afallenhope> what exactly is: /sbin/getty 38400 tty1
[22:57] <poboy975linux> help me with that then please
[22:57] <bonhoffer> anyone know how to install curl?
[22:57] <poboy975linux> i use hotmail for email
[22:57] <erUSUL> Guest50508: yes on most conf files and in bash scripts # is for commenting out
[22:57] <ikonia> poboy975linux: sorry no
[22:57] <zsquareplusc> afallenhope: serial port for login
[22:57] <n8tuser> ikonia you have a hint on how to make the kernel detect and assign same hd to same label all the time? i forget how to do this
[22:57] <erUSUL> !software | bonhoffer
[22:57] <ralpho> I wish my computer was smart enoughto not go  there :)
[22:57] <zsquareplusc> afallenhope: i mena text console
[22:57] <afallenhope> zsquareplusc, hmm.. okay. ty
[22:57] <tommyd> so what is wrong when Hardy's default logrotate instance tells me blatantly on /usr/sbin/logrotate -fd /etc/logrotate.conf that it happily rotated all configured logs, but then I see they're not rotated at all?
[22:57] <LjL> Great_Gatsby: is there any other computer you can access the router from? if not, can you connect to the router via ethernet?
[22:57] <Blues-> anyone know how to install curl? => sudo apt-get install php5-curl
[22:57] <zsquareplusc> afallenhope: its what you get by pressing ctrl+alt+F1
[22:57] <ikonia> n8tuser: sorry, say that again, I didn't quite get it
[22:58] <poboy975linux> ok, whats wrong with my comp if some ubuntu users can see the sites, and i cant
[22:58] <yates> no intelligent life here.
[22:58] <bonhoffer> erUSUL, yes, but i thought that curl would be in the default distro
[22:58] <Biscuit> n8tuser the 4 HDDs have a boot order in my BIOS, do I want to change it?
[22:58] <yates> bye
[22:58] <xikkub> RAID
[22:58] <erUSUL> bonhoffer: wget is
[22:58] <n8tuser> ikonia-> Biscuit's hd rotates to different labels everytime he boots, it switches between  /dev/sdc and /dev/sdd
[22:58] <afallenhope> zsquareplusc, yeah figured as much thanks
[22:58] <supercom32> Is there a simple way to duplicate/clone a users account so all the settings get cloned rather than back at default for laborus configuration again?
[22:58] <n8tuser> Biscuit-> hang a sec, lets see a what ikonia can suggest
[22:58] <LjL> supercom32: well but sure, you just copy its home directory
[22:58] <Biscuit> thanks n8tuser
[22:58] <erUSUL> supercom32: backup the home folder ?
[22:59] <zsquareplusc> supercom32: there is /etc/skel
[22:59] <ikonia> n8tuser: it shouldl read the disk label every time, unless they both have the same label
[22:59] <supercom32> /etc/skel?
[22:59] <MHz128> hi all
[22:59] <supercom32> well, if you copy the home folder, doesn't that cause big problems? When i remember doing that last, lots of stuff didn't startup right. hardcoded paths?
[22:59] <ampleyfly> Jordan_U: so I guess you're running banshee on ubuntu, have you tried 1.4?
[22:59] <nickrud> supercom32, the dot files (the files/folders starting with a period) in the home dir holds the configs. Copy them over, and change the ownership. There may be a few that have the home path hard coded in them, you can search for that with grep
[22:59] <poboy975linux> I have a legitamate problem and you are refusing to help?????!?!?!?!?
[22:59] <zsquareplusc> supercom32: that's user for new accounts, for example if you want to add some defaults for new users
[23:00] <LjL> poboy975linux: is the DNS server the same on the linux machine and on the other machine?
[23:00] <n8tuser> ikonia-> i dont know how his bios treats his hd, i have experienced those too before, and i forget what i have to do to keep it stable to name its same every reboot
[23:00] <LjL> !patience | poboy975linux
[23:00] <ikonia> n8tuser: shouldn't be anything to do with bios, should be disk labels only
[23:00] <Great_Gatsby> can someone help me with my wireless problem
[23:00] <poboy975linux> there is a difference between not knowing the answer and refusing to help because you think its an illega site or whatever
[23:00] <n8tuser> ikonia-> so its in the udev? he can not even get beyond grub, as the label keeps changing from /dev/sdc to /dev/sdd
[23:00] <calwig> does anyone know how exactly to get these new movies to play on VLC or Movie Player, the encoded data doesnt seem to decrypt
[23:00] <Jordan_U> ampleyfly: No, I don't use banshee, I just lurk here far too often and had heard of the bug before :)
[23:01] <supercom32> zsquareplusc: How do you configure this user? login as him?
[23:01] <ikonia> n8tuser: ooh really, even at that level
[23:01] <ikonia> n8tuser: grub should be using uuid so the name's shouldn't matter
[23:01] <poboy975linux> LjL: im not sure, let me check
[23:01] <Great_Gatsby> have you tried using ffmpeg to encode them to another format calwig
[23:01] <calwig> DVD movies from Constantine Film do not play on VLC, does anyone know what i have to install
[23:01] <Jordan_U> !dvd | calwig
[23:01] <calwig> Great_Gatsby: funny thing is I cant even read them, the player totally crashes as it starts to read the data,
[23:01] <n8tuser> ikonia okay..let me peek at his menu.lst again
[23:01] <nickrud> ikonia, except for the (hd0,0) section in the stanzas, those can get screwed from that
[23:01] <Biscuit> n8tuser, ikonia, is my PC some sort of freak machine or something?
[23:02] <ikonia> nickrud: not with device.map
[23:02] <n8tuser> nickrud yeah we specified  root (hd3,4)  but since sdd changed to sdc  this is out of the window
[23:03] <calwig> Jordan_U: I think i have all formats installed, I'll go thru this list again that you have posted, the issue is from the movie rental store's view that the movie manufacturers from Constantine Film have put a much bigger encryption cloud, even to play, so i can read the files, but are encrypted
[23:03] <Great_Gatsby> all my drivers for the wireless card are installed
[23:03] <MHz128> How can I disable a PCI wireless card from command line?
[23:03] <Great_Gatsby> i switched out 4 now
[23:03] <Great_Gatsby> nothing works
[23:03] <Jordan_U> calwig: Do you have libdvdcss2 installed?
[23:04] <ampleyfly> Jordan_U: oh :P
[23:04] <tripitakit> MHz128: ifdown wlan0
[23:04] <calwig> Jordan_U: 99% sure, will check
[23:04] <poboy975linux> LjL, not sure how to tell on windows machine what dns server its using
[23:04] <Guest50508> if i use uuid= in fstab should i comment out the /dev/sda1 stuff then?
[23:04] <Great_Gatsby> http://pastebin.com/m1c20c076
[23:04] <Great_Gatsby> what is the problem?
[23:04] <poboy975linux> but i could not open sites using ip address either
[23:04] <zsquareplusc> network booting the livecd.. it doesnt find the network driver in the initrd. someone with experience in that field?
[23:04] <Great_Gatsby> i used iwconfig
[23:04] <n8tuser> Biscuit-> what is the order of boot  priority in the bios?
[23:04] <MHz128> tripitakit, will that work if I've got both a usb and pci nic installed?
[23:05] <Great_Gatsby> in gutsy when i would use nm-applet the bottom circle would light up green but then it would just keep trying to connect
[23:05] <Great_Gatsby> no key
[23:05] <MHz128> tripitakit, i only want to disable the PCI card
[23:05] <Biscuit> n8tuser it is CD/DVD then SATA
[23:05] <soho> hey guys, how can i know if my ubuntu is vuln?
[23:05] <Great_Gatsby> can someone please help i need to get wireless working
[23:05] <nickrud> Guest48487, replace the root=/dev/sd* with the root=uuid=
[23:05] <calwig> Jordan_U: installed
[23:05] <Great_Gatsby> im not going to have a wired connection for long
[23:05] <tripitakit> MHz128: u'd check wich device is the one u want to disable
[23:05] <n8tuser> Biscuit-> but is there like SATA 1 then SATA2 to correspond to which hd you've got?
[23:06] <MHz128> tripitakit, cool thanks man!
[23:06] <calwig> Jordan_U: it was my understanding that libdvdcss2 was the sort of "missing key" for the decryptiong process, but i dont know if they need to update it
[23:06] <Tzunamii> Any known issues with cpu freq scaling in x64 with a Q6600, please?
[23:06] <tripitakit> MHz128: check with iwconfig then ifdown the intended one
[23:06] <Guest50508> if i use uuid= in fstab should i comment out the /dev/sda1 stuff then?
[23:06] <LjL> poboy975linux: well, no idea then
[23:06] <Biscuit> n8tuser in device priority it just has dvd then one HDD, but the next menu is Drives which has each HDD listen in order
[23:06] <poboy975linux> I'm trying to find out.
[23:06] <n8tuser> Biscuit-> in that other menu, whats the HDD order?
[23:07] <nickrud> Guest50508, , replace the root=/dev/sd* with the root=uuid=
[23:07] <calwig> Jordan_U: do you think emailing the developers of libdvdcss2 and ask them if they could try these types of movies could get me an answer, or do you think i should research more perhaps on this before i email them
[23:07] <Biscuit> n8tuser they each have a full name: SATA4M... HDD:5S... SATA:PM... SATA:3M...
[23:07] <poboy975linux> if I add a bunch of dns ips into network config, would that help?
[23:08] <Guest50508> nickrud: my fstab example right now looks like this.../dev/sdf1	/media/Documents	ext3	defaults	0	0
[23:08] <Baatti> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=6199852#post6199852  <--- please help me
[23:08] <soho> hey guys, how can i know if my ubuntu is vuln?
[23:08] <LjL> poboy975linux: if you say you can't connect even if you go straight to the IP address... then no, it would not.
[23:08] <LjL> soho: "vuln"?
[23:08] <tripitakit> soho: vulnerable to what?
[23:08] <soho> yeah exploitable
[23:08] <nickrud> Guest48487, ah, fstab not menu.lst. Yes, replace the /dev/sdf1 with UUID=<uuid>.
[23:08] <soho> to anything
[23:08] <soho> i want to know how secure my ibex is
[23:08] <LjL> soho: yes, it's exploitable.
[23:08] <tripitakit> soho: give here your public ip ;)
[23:08] <nickrud> Guest50508, see above, I hate these guest names
[23:08] <soho> how can i prevent it?
[23:09] <LjL> soho: the probability that some yet to be discovered exploit exists for your Ubuntu release approaches 100%.
[23:09] <soho> do i need to harden my kernel?
[23:09] <LjL> soho: you cannot prevent it.
[23:09] <lappy> anyone here that could help me with an "opengl" problem? got to warn you I am a complete linux noob
[23:09] <Guest50508> nickrud:  thanks
[23:09] <n8tuser> Biscuit-> well try to get the correct order, to match your menu.lst entries.. hopefully that will fix it..or else if it keeps changing we are out of luck for now
[23:09] <tripitakit> soho we'll spend the night trying to expolit it
[23:09] <tripitakit> :D
[23:09] <rdw200169_> soho: you're relatively secure if you're running behind a NAT firewall, like a normal wireless router or something
[23:09] <Jordan_U> calwig: I found at least one other mailing list post about constantine films not working with libdvdcss so you should look to see if it's been addressed already, if not the developers may need access to one of these new encrypted DVD's to work with.
[23:09] <LjL> soho: you can also realize, however, that if you keep your system updated, safe from physical intrusion and perhaps behind a NAT'ing router, chances of anything bad happening are pretty low.
[23:09] <rdw200169_> soho: and have something like the firestarter firewall running
[23:09] <soho> is there one forlinux?
[23:10] <zsquareplusc> oh well. i should learn to have problems others can easily solve :p
[23:10] <nickrud> soho, yet, the odds of your ibex being compromized approaches zero, if you have no net facing services. You're only really vulnerable to socially engineered  compromizing software
[23:10] <soho> i thought the best way to keep linux secure was to harden the kernel?
[23:10] <Great_Gatsby> can anyone help me
[23:10] <Great_Gatsby> http://pastebin.com/m1c20c076
[23:10] <LjL> soho: nonsense.
[23:10] <Great_Gatsby> i cannot connect to any wireless router
[23:10] <soho> oh
[23:10] <Biscuit> n8tuser, how will I know which corresponds to which when menu.lst and my BIOS refers to them in different ways? Could I go into XP to work out which drive is which (they each have a different size) and then work out how menu.lst refers to them each?
[23:10] <Great_Gatsby> key , no key
[23:10] <poboy975linux> so, I only have one internet connection....its a broadband dial up through tethering my phone to windows xp maching. ics sharing to network and this linux box and a linux laptop. windows box has no problem with any site at all. both linux machines most sites work, some need proxy.
[23:10] <rdw200169_> soho: you really don't need to go to any elaborate measure, regardless, the linux kernel is already has excellent security
[23:10] <whileimhere> Hi I have a xml file. what program would allow me to look at it without all the extra code?
[23:10] <tripitakit> soho: remembere that you have ufw as default firewall and a guiufw (or ufwgui)
[23:11] <LjL> soho: there's no such thing as the "best way" to make something "secure" in general. security is a compromise that depends on your needs.
[23:11] <soho> true
[23:11] <herrmess> Is there any way from nautilus to do something like "Open Terminal Here" ?
[23:11] <semtido> scripts
[23:11] <rdw200169_> tripitakit: not true... ufw is only a wrapper for iptables, and it's not installed by default
[23:11] <calwig> Jordan_U: sweet, thanks, looking helps, since ive never had problems, but confirmation from the movie store made me see that it wasnt my dvd player since i had other movies not from CF. Ive tried 3 movies from CF and they all dont play, from 2005 and on approx. I'll google a bit more... got the link that you found on the issue?
[23:11] <soho> LjL is it possible
[23:11] <ralpho> iptables firewalls are real good
[23:11] <tripitakit> soho do you have any server runnin on your pc?
[23:11] <LjL> soho: if you don't know what compromise you're looking for, then you're probably best off just using Ubuntu as provided by default, as the developers strive to make it very secure for the average user.
[23:11] <soho> to update a kernel or compile it?
[23:11] <Great_Gatsby> anyone?
[23:11] <soho> no i dont tripitakit
[23:11] <Great_Gatsby> halp?
[23:11] <rdw200169_> soho: regardless, just install firestarter, enjoy it's easiness, and go on with your life feeling secure ;)
[23:11] <LjL> soho: yes. it's also strongly discouraged.
[23:11] <tripitakit> rdw200169_: i guess in intrepid is on by default
[23:11] <soho> LjL how come?
[23:12] <n8tuser> Biscuit-> match the hd size yes,  look at what you pasted earlier
[23:12] <Biscuit> thanks n8tuser I'm on it
[23:12] <soho> what if i was on hardy haron, but watned to update to a new kernel?
[23:12] <rdw200169_> tripitakit: yeah, but it should be just drop-default policy in iptables, though i'm not sure, i haven't upgraded yet
[23:12] <LjL> soho: because the packaged kernel that comes with your Ubuntu release was tuned and tested for it. months have been spent doing that.
[23:12] <soho> oh
[23:12] <fsufitch> hi. i'm having a problem with evolution. doing a regular contact search in the contacts view works fine, but when  i try to use the "To..." picker, i can't get any search results!
[23:12] <soho> right
[23:12] <LjL> soho: if you want to roll your own kernel, you'll actually *miss any pushed security updates*, for a start, which would *open* your system to very serious security risks.
[23:12] <mn> How do I get OpenOffice.org 3 ?
[23:13] <Jordan_U> calwig: http://www.via.ecp.fr/via/ml/libdvdcss-devel/2007-05/msg00000.html
[23:13] <rdw200169_> soho: as long as you have a drop input policy in ubuntu, and don't run any services, like a webserver or something, you're fine
[23:13] <soho> yeah i dont run anything
[23:13] <ikonia> !give pici a test
[23:13]  * PiercedWolf gives pici some sweets
[23:13]  * GibbaTheHutt gives pici
[23:13]  * Narcissus gives ikonia a spoon
[23:13] <Great_Gatsby> vaginal fluid on the brain
[23:13] <calwig> Jordan_U: super good... i will look into it tanks!
[23:13] <Pici> ..
[23:13] <ikonia> Pici: got it
[23:13] <soho> rdw200169_ but i always hear of ssh exploits
[23:13] <soho> am i afected by that?
[23:13] <semtido> ??
[23:13] <rdw200169_> soho: then don't use ssh!
[23:14] <soho> i dont? i dont think
[23:14] <binarymutant> anyone know when synaptic going to include screenshots from screenshots.debian.net ?
[23:14] <soho> i use terminal
[23:14] <mn> How do I get OpenOffice.org 3 ?
[23:14] <rdw200169_> soho: the exploits are only affecting people that have a running ssh server, open to a network
[23:14] <rdw200169_> soho: but the default firewall won't allow access
[23:14] <soho> oh ok
[23:14] <soho> i dont run ssh server
[23:14] <ikonia> !give pici another test
[23:14] <rdw200169_> soho: perfect, you shouldn't have a problem
[23:14] <soho> great
[23:14] <soho> :P
[23:14] <mn> !OpenOffice.org
[23:14] <Wicked> how do i fake a install with apt? to see what it will install
[23:15] <rdw200169_> soho: most of the possible exploits affect server based applications, like web servers, etc...
[23:15] <Wicked> !apt
[23:15] <Zig-Zag> Hi im having issues with my resolution , ive tried nvidia-xconfig but get the message that data is incomplete in /ect/X11/xorg.conf.
[23:15] <semtido> is there a way to get working drivers for an ATI X1650XT (AGP) on 8.10?
[23:15] <carter> anyone here
[23:15] <carter> lol
[23:15] <soho> yeah
[23:15] <nickrud> Wicked, use the --dry-run option
[23:15] <erUSUL> !ati | semtido
[23:15] <carter> does anyone know if wine supports itunes
[23:15] <semtido> i install a driver
[23:15] <herrmess> re ssh -- how "safe" is it to run it on a random high port, say 45454 ?
[23:15] <semtido> but when system starts it is all f***d up
[23:16] <tripitakit> Wicked: dpkg -l packagename will list the file of that package
[23:16] <mmarcio> alguem sabe dizer porque o emessene não aparece a lista de contato
[23:16] <n8tuser> herrmess-> as safe as it is in port 22
[23:16] <soho> rdw200169_ do you use any other linux distro besides ubuntu?
[23:16] <semtido> o emesene ta xeio de bugs
[23:16] <rdw200169_> soho: the other stuff, like viruses in windows from executable code in e-mails, and all that, is caught very quickly in linux and squashed immediately
[23:16] <carter> ?
[23:16] <semtido> tens a ultima versao?
[23:16] <smorron> hello everyone does anyone know how to connect an ipod touch to ubuntu 8.10
[23:16] <rdw200169_> soho: regardless of the fact that it happens rarely
[23:16] <nickrud> semtido, portuguese?
[23:16] <erUSUL> !pt | semtido
[23:16] <semtido> yes
[23:16] <retro_> herrmess: there are portscanners, which finds it
[23:16] <semtido> ok
[23:16] <nickrud> !pt | Semidios
[23:16] <tripitakit> Wicked:ops, sorry:   dpkg -L packagename will list the file of that package
[23:16] <rdw200169_> soho: sometimes i fool around with the others, though i've preffered ubuntu for years and years now
[23:16] <semtido> he asked in portuguese
[23:16] <herrmess> n8tuser : surely portscanners don't pass all ports on a machine...?
[23:16] <fsufitch> posting again. i'm having a problem with evolution. doing a regular contact search in the contacts view works fine, but when  i try to use the "To..." picker, i can't get any search results!
[23:16] <soho> coool
[23:16] <mn> How do I get OpenOffice.org 3 ?
[23:17] <smorron> hello everyone does anyone know how to connect an ipod touch to ubuntu 8.10
[23:17] <nickrud> semtido, lousy nick complete, #ubuntu-pr or #ubuntu-br
[23:17] <nickrud> semtido, lousy nick complete, #ubuntu-pt or #ubuntu-br
[23:17] <erUSUL> !ipod | smorron
[23:17] <rdw200169_> soho: ubuntu is usually ahead of the others, when it comes to top of the line everything, while still having ease-of-use
[23:17] <herrmess> smorron : try gtkpod
[23:17] <Wicked> tripitakit, ok ill try it
[23:17] <retro_> mn: try http://www.openoffice.org/
[23:17] <semtido> lousy nick complete?
[23:17] <semtido> didnt get that
[23:17] <rdw200169_> soho: also, note, that if you really want to make your linux more secure, you could fool around with selinux, which is part of the linux kernel (in ubuntu)
[23:17] <smorron> gtkpod won't read a mount
[23:17] <rdw200169_> !selinux
[23:17] <luigi> !it
[23:17] <nickrud> semtido, I sent a message to the wrong nick, not yours.
[23:17] <mn> retro_: can I not get it from the repos?
[23:17] <erUSUL> smorron: tried banshee?
[23:18] <semtido> ok
[23:18] <n8tuser> herrmess-> they find out if they are that determined
[23:18] <rdw200169_> soho: and AppArmor
[23:18] <minimec> smorron: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PortableDevices/iPhone
[23:18] <rdw200169_> soho: and there are tools available that catch viruses in e-mails:
[23:18] <soho> okay
[23:18] <rdw200169_> !virus
[23:18] <retro_> mn: there is deb file on their website
[23:18] <soho> w32 virues dont run on ubuntu right?>
[23:18] <smorron> i've tried them all
[23:18] <rdw200169_> soho: that's right
[23:18] <smorron> for some reason they aren't working
[23:18] <Jordan_U> mn: Are you using intrepid?
[23:19] <barlrol> nickrud:  can i also use uuid in the exports file for nfs shares?
[23:19] <mn> yes
[23:19] <retro_> mn: or add this repo deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/openoffice-pkgs/ubuntu intrepid main
[23:19] <herrmess> n8tuser : hmm... an if I allow ssh only from a specific ip address?
[23:19] <nickrud> barlrol, that I don't know, i don't use nfs
[23:19] <Marquisk2> Does anyone know where or how I can get Left 4 Dead Dedicated server files?
[23:19] <retro_> mn: and then do update
[23:19] <Jordan_U> mn: Add this repository and update your system https://launchpad.net/~openoffice-pkgs/+archive
[23:19] <rdw200169_> soho: you can look at the whole mess in this perspective: the same people who wrote viruses 20 years ago, and were really good at it, are now doveloping for linux ;)
[23:19] <Biscuit> n8tuser I can find the full names of each HDD listed in XP's device manager, but I'm struggling to correlate their names to which is actually which. Explorer only details their size without names whilst Device Manager lists names but no sizes. And rather irritatingly 3 of them have very very similar ID's
[23:19] <poboy975linux> ok LjL: here are my dns that windows box is using http://paste.ubuntu.com/73557/
[23:19] <mn> to which file?
[23:19] <retro_> mn: new version will be downloaded
[23:19] <fsufitch> posting again. i'm having a problem with evolution. doing a regular contact search in the contacts view works fine, but when  i try to use the "To..." picker, i can't get any search results! if any one has ANY idea what's going on, it would be greatly appreciated
[23:20] <n8tuser> herrmess-> pretty save, include it in /etc/deny.host ?
[23:20] <Jordan_U> mn: System -> Administration -> Software Sources or /etc/apt/sources.list
[23:20] <soho> rdw200169_ you mean they are trying to make them for linux?
[23:20] <soho> why!?
[23:20] <rdw200169_> soho: the same punk kids from 20 years ago, who thought it was fun to steal someones desktop or keystrokes, have matured, grown up, and now see things in a different perspective
[23:20] <herrmess> n8tuser : nope, only as an incoming firewall rule. Isn't it enough?
[23:20] <n8tuser> Biscuit-> reference the output you had for ubuntu livecd  when we did fdisk -l
[23:21] <soho> oh
[23:21] <ikonia> !give ikonia lunch
[23:21] <Biscuit> n8tuser, ok, bear with me
[23:21] <smorron> i guess ipod touch 2.1 software is not supported by intrepid... i don't get why
[23:21] <n8tuser> herrmess-> i can not vouch for totality of security, you have to do what ever it takes for you to get comfy
[23:21] <herrmess> n8tuser sure :)
[23:21] <poboy975linux> ok, when I type in ip address manually, it says looking up, the gives me name of site, the waiting on site,.........then nothing
[23:21] <rdw200169_> soho: on top of everything, ubuntu goes the extra mile, and uses md5 sums of the packages, along with gpg encryption, etc... to secure the source of downloaded files
[23:21] <uvacav> is there a way to take the handles off of a gnome-panel? they wont' go transparent so they dont look right
[23:22] <Jordan_U> smorron: Has the 2.1 firmware been jailbroken yet?
[23:22] <soho> i dont know what that means, i know md5 and gpg encrypt are
[23:22] <rdw200169_> soho: you can check the md5 sum, for example, of a downloaded .iso from a mirror, to verify that you got the correct .iso, and not a hacked one
[23:22] <soho> but why is that significant?
[23:22] <LjL> poboy975linux: i don't care *which* dns you're using, i only care whether or not they're the same that you're using in Ubuntu. also, if the same happens with IP addresses, then DNS aren't relevant at all
[23:22] <soho> ohh
[23:22] <equex> i realize this is not an ubunto problem, but it seems that my computer wont start memtest86 from any of the k/kubuntu distros i have. i select the memory test menu item from the cd menu and then it clears the screen and just sits there with a blinking cursor top left. i can boot any os. but memtest wont work. any ideas?
[23:22] <soho> yeah i knew that :P
[23:22] <soho> i usually never check though
[23:22] <smorron> yes i have it jailbroken
[23:22] <soho> i should start
[23:23] <AnnoyingMouse_> hi guys. doing a small prez to new linux recruit 2nite. topic is linux/ubuntu & media - focus on audio production
[23:23] <AnnoyingMouse_> any advice
[23:23] <smorron> Jordan_U, i do have it jailbroken
[23:23] <LjL> equex: i don't know, but this *is* an ubuntu problem
[23:23] <rdw200169_> soho: then there's the whole 'package signing' thing that takes place in the ubuntu repo's
[23:23] <AnnoyingMouse_> recommendations?
[23:23] <poboy975linux> ok, sorry about that...any ideas? I can ping site ok, just cant open in a browser
[23:23] <LjL> equex: are you sure the CD is good? have you verified it?
[23:23] <erUSUL> poboy975linux: try « echo 0 | sudo tee /proc/sys/net/ipv4/tcp_window_scaling »
[23:23] <rdw200169_> soho: so if a repo's domain is taken over, in an attempt to distribute hacked packages, they won't pass the key check ;)
[23:23] <equex> LjL: i tried 5 different ubuntu cd's from version 5 to 7
[23:23] <soho> cool
[23:24] <soho> rdw200169_ ever try a linuxapp called aircrack?
[23:24] <poboy975linux> came back  with a    0
[23:24] <smorron> does anyone know how to set up samba..i've set it up the right way but i haven't been able to sync both systems
[23:24] <smorron> !samba
[23:24] <erUSUL> poboy975linux: after that try to access the websites that failed
[23:24] <rdw200169_> soho: yes, i used it on my mac, that's why you shouldn't use wep keys on a wireless network
[23:24] <LjL> equex: does that only happen from the CD? because you know, you can start memtest from GRUB in an *installed* system, too
[23:24] <soho> does it also work for WPA?
[23:25] <rdw200169_> soho: nope, that's why wpa was created
[23:25] <LjL> soho: if you use weak passwords.
[23:25] <rdw200169_> LjL, true, true
[23:25] <rdw200169_> soho: but you could go hardcore, and severely lock down a wireless network running something like coovachilli
[23:25] <Jordan_U> smorron: see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PortableDevices/iPhone#Firmware%202.0%20and%202.0.1%20will%20not%20sync
[23:25] <poboy975linux> sorry nope. I refreshed the proxy version at same site and it loaded in about 5 seconds, the regiular is still waiting, after about 30
[23:25] <rdw200169_> soho: check coova.org, but that's a little overkill for a small operation
[23:26] <equex> LjL i dont have a real linux install on this box right now... (i plan to tough, i kind of forgot that i cant dual boot linux/windows in raid mode!)
[23:26] <equex> atleast i dont think i can.
[23:26] <soho> hah
[23:26] <erUSUL> poboy975linux: do « echo 1 | sudo tee /proc/sys/net/ipv4/tcp_window_scaling »
[23:26] <jasuus> ok, so i have a cd in my cdrom and i can see the files on the cd with the file browser.   the icon on my desktop seems to show that the cdrom is mounted.  I can copy the files to my harddrive by clicking and dragging.  how do i copy from a terminal?  I cant seem to find where it is mounted to
[23:26] <erUSUL> poboy975linux: to undo the mod
[23:26] <apeiron> jasuus, type mount
[23:27] <poboy975linux> ok did that
[23:27] <jasuus> apeiron, ok, what am i lookign for?
[23:28] <apeiron> jasuus, Something like /media/cdrom probably.
[23:28] <Biscuit> n8tuser I've worked out the BIOS boot order is C, G, E, F and I'm just loading up liveCD to have a look there
[23:28] <jasuus> apeiron, yea, thats what i thought...nothing is there
[23:28] <aguitel> b
[23:28] <aguitel> b
[23:28] <aguitel> b
[23:28] <aguitel> b
[23:28] <FloodBot1> aguitel: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:28] <szymon> fgh\
[23:28] <szymon> sdfg
[23:28] <jasuus> maybe its a bug?
[23:28] <n8tuser> Biscuit-> cool, and make sure they match
[23:29] <soho> hmm rdw200169_ actually i do have a webserver running on my ubuntu
[23:29] <Biscuit> so n8tuser I need to go back into my device.map?
[23:29] <soho> i didnt notice that
[23:29] <apeiron> jasuus, That's odd. =\
[23:29] <n8tuser> Biscuit-> yeah that too to confirm
[23:30] <LjL> equex: it doesn't give you any message, such as for instance something about not fitting in memory?
[23:30] <apeiron> jasuus, Can you paste the output of mount to the pastebin in the topic?
[23:30]  * apeiron is curious
[23:30] <Wicked> hello all. when instaling the server..it asks to install "dns server" what exactly does this install?
[23:30] <apeiron> Wicked, Do you have hosts on your network that you need to provide nameservices for?
[23:30] <Slart> Wicked: just guessing.. but I think bind
[23:30] <erUSUL> Wicked: bind the dns server
[23:30] <LjL> Wicked: a Domain Name Server
[23:30] <apeiron> Oh, misread.
[23:30] <apeiron> sorry
[23:30] <equex> LjL: nope, absolutely no message. might the problem be that the motherboard is in raid mode ?
[23:30] <rdw200169_> soho: well, then you should research securing apache2
[23:31] <lion> thank you
[23:31] <soho> im removing it
[23:31] <LjL> Wicked: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Domain_name_system
[23:31] <Wicked> well thats all it installs?
[23:31] <Wicked> i know aht nameservers are
[23:31] <jasuus> apeiron, http://paste.ubuntu.com/73561/
[23:31] <apeiron> It and its dependencies, of course.
[23:31] <Wicked> but inm trying to find out what packages are actually installed when i install that
[23:31] <Wicked> just bind?
[23:31] <Wicked> or...?
[23:31] <Wicked> its the dns server if you run "tasksel"
[23:32] <apeiron> jasuus, Look under /home/jasuus/.gvfs/
[23:32] <storrgie1> anyone here a network guru? I have not been able to find help on a seemingly simple issue for several days
[23:32] <jasuus> apeiron, nice
[23:32] <soho> hmm rdw200169_ that is weird
[23:32] <jasuus> apeiron, thx man
[23:32] <soho> i removed apache but its still there
[23:32] <soho> any ideas?
[23:32] <LjL> Wicked: "man tasksel" will show there is a "--task-packages" option to list installed packages
[23:32] <apeiron> jasuus, Share the magic. :D
[23:32] <erUSUL> !ask | storrgie1
[23:32] <Wicked> LjL, :-o cool thx =)
[23:33] <soho> should i delete /www where my .html files are?
[23:33] <storrgie1> I have a wlan interface and a eth interface, both are connected and the wlan is connected to the internet. But I cannot get to the internet on my machine
[23:33] <LjL> Wicked: (and, yes, it installs bind9 and bind9-doc, and of course their dependencies)
[23:33] <Jordan_U> calwig: still there?
[23:33] <LjL> soho: how do you know it's still there?
[23:34] <poboy975linux> so any more ideas?
[23:34] <erUSUL> storrgie1: what error do you get?
[23:34] <neozen> storrgie1: got some complicated firewall rules blocking outgoing to remote port 80?
[23:34] <ardchoille> I think my alsamixer is broke, it only shows Master. The Volume Control window, however, shows several settings in the Playback tab. What's up?
[23:34] <soho> i typed http localhost
[23:34] <soho> and my webpage loaded
[23:34] <storrgie1> neozen: erUSUL I am betting its more due to my routing tables...
[23:34] <soho> and /www still has my html fils
[23:34] <soho> files*
[23:34] <Biscuit> right n8tuser I've got sda1 as drive e: (last to boot), sdb1 is f: (2nd last in boot order), sdc1/2/5/6/7 is my partitioned c: drive (1st to boot) and sdd1 is g: drive (2nd to boot)!
[23:35] <erUSUL> storrgie1: well an actual error msg from ping or the web browser would be very helpfull
[23:35] <calwig> Jordan_U: yes im here, im going in 2 mins somewhere then back in about 20 mins, yo
[23:35] <storrgie1> neozen: erUSUL check out this post to see what I am doing: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=981622
[23:35] <erUSUL> storrgie1: unracheable host? host not known? any other?
[23:35] <storrgie1> erUSUL: ping: unknown host google.com
[23:36] <calwig> Jordan_U: send me a msg back soon
[23:36] <Jordan_U> calwig: I think I have found a solution
[23:36] <LjL> equex: shouldn't be, really, but who knows. i call that a bug, i suggest you report it (state your hardware specs in detail, and the fact that you've verified the CD and that other options in the boot menu work)
[23:36] <neozen> storrgie1: ok... do you have a valid dns server? (check /etc/resolv.conf)
[23:36] <n8tuser> Biscuit-> looks good, now modify menu.lst  instead of that  hd3,4  to hd2,4
[23:36] <erUSUL> storrgie1: what ip are assigned on wlan0 and eth0 ?
[23:37] <LjL> soho: then that's because you removed the package but the program is still running in memory. either reboot, or type "sudo invoke-rc.d apache2 stop"
[23:37] <Biscuit> superb, I'm on it now n8tuser, thanks
[23:37] <leleobhz> how can i use hal-stop-polling in ubuntu/
[23:37] <storrgie1> erUSUL: neozen when I booted up the machines both interfaces got an IP, but neither could get internet, no ping outside... but I could ping between them. So I unplugged the crossover and plugged back in, both had internet.....
[23:37] <Jordan_U> calwig: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libdvdread/+bug/182385 Still reading but it says "fix released" in debian so you can try grabbing libdvdread from debian unstable ( though, again, I am still reading the comments on the report )
[23:37] <soho> hmm let me try
[23:37] <leleobhz> package search told me have no package with this file
[23:37] <n8tuser> Biscuit-> i have to leave now, i have an appointment..sorry it took this long..
[23:37] <storrgie1> neozen: nothinig in the resolve.conf
[23:37] <n8tuser> Biscuit-> perhaps someone can follow up
[23:37] <soho> invoke-rc.d: unknown initscript, /etc/init.d/apache2 not found.
[23:38] <storrgie1> erUSUL: wlan its 192.168.1.x scheme, eth is 192.168.7.x scheme
[23:38] <neozen> storrgie1: hmmm... usually that's bad
[23:38] <Biscuit> no worries n8tuser, really appreciate all you've done, you've been a star
[23:38] <poboy975linux> ok so here is what I get when I try the traceroute http://paste.ubuntu.com/73566/
[23:38] <neozen> storrgie1: you need a dns server in order to resolve hostnames (like google.com)
[23:38] <Biscuit> thanks ever so much
[23:38] <poboy975linux> stops at last entry
[23:38] <soho> how come when ever i minimize my firefox or any application on ibex it does not go into my toolbar?
[23:38] <phaidros> hi, how could I give another user access to the soundcard?
[23:38] <erUSUL> storrgie1: what is default gw on Main Box ?
[23:38] <LjL> storrgie1, fwiw, the standard range for that class is 192.168.x.x, so those two "ranges" you mentioned really overlap
[23:39] <apeiron> soho, If you just want to stop it after having uninstalled it, 'sudo killall -9 httpd' should do, though will stop other httpds too.
[23:39] <cyberix> Which font package fixes this page? http://got.wikipedia.org/
[23:39] <Jordan_U> calwig: "Either the debian patch doesn't fix the bug, or the debian bug reported is a different one." :( but the comment before that suggests that it may be fixed in intrepid, are you using 8.10 ?
[23:39] <Gnea> phaidros: make sure they're part of the audio group
[23:39] <storrgie1> LjL I would like to do the eth0 on a 10.0.0.x range, but i couldnt get that to work at all
[23:39] <storrgie1> erUSUL: the gateway for wlan is <IP_ADDRESS>
[23:39] <phaidros> Gnea: thanx
[23:40] <phaidros> cyberix: this page is broken, doesnt identify correct imho
[23:40] <soho> httpd: no process killed
[23:40] <storrgie1> erUSUL: so to get internet to work I did this:  sudo route add default gw <IP_ADDRESS>
[23:40] <soho> how come when ever i minimize my firefox or any application on ibex it does not go into my toolbar?
[23:40] <storrgie1> LjL could i get the eth0 to work on the 10. scheme, and have my wlan on 192.168 scheme and get internet working? I would really like that
[23:41] <phaidros> cyberix: sry, i could be wrong, dunno which fontpackage helps you
[23:41] <erUSUL> storrgie1: well i suspect that depending on what interface comes up ñater you get gw via wlan0 (when it works) or via eth0 (when it does not work becouse the raid box is not a router)
[23:41] <neozen> soho: toolbar? guess you mean taskbar?
[23:41] <erUSUL> storrgie1:  ñater == later
[23:41] <soho> yes
[23:41] <Gnea> phaidros: should just be a System->Administration->Users and Groups
[23:41] <soho> sorry the taskbar
[23:41] <soho> any ideas neozen
[23:41] <neozen> soho: does either of your panels contain a tasklist?
[23:41] <storrgie1> erUSUL: so what i just did was restart the RAID box, same issue... no internet... and added the gateway, but it does not work this time
[23:41] <soho> no
[23:42] <neozen> soho: forget the exact name of the panel-applet in gnome
[23:42] <neozen> soho: *I forget
[23:42] <soho> i had avant windows manager, but i upgraded to ibex
[23:42] <soho> then my ubuntu got broken
[23:42] <neozen> soho: ahh
[23:42] <neozen> soho: drag
[23:42] <soho> its all awn fault
[23:42] <soho> !!!!
[23:42] <storrgie1> how can I get network manager to generate the proper ip into the resolve.conf file?
[23:42] <apeiron> cyberix, It's Gothic, apparently.
[23:43] <neozen> soho: I take it you didn't keep a backup copy of xinitrc, .xinitrc etc
[23:43] <cyberix> I can only find some Japanese Gothic fonts
[23:43] <soho> no i didnt
[23:43]  * neozen nods
[23:43] <cyberix> But I remember getting it to work by installing all available font packages
[23:43] <soho> ;(
[23:43] <neozen> soho: happened to us all once
[23:43] <soho> should i try to upgrade again
[23:43] <cyberix> Which is something I'd not want to do
[23:43] <soho> will that fix the problem?
[23:43] <erUSUL> storrgie1: what is the output of "ip route" ? paste.ubuntu.com
[23:44] <neozen> soho: I say follow the directions to install avant properly again
[23:44] <soho> does it work for ibex?
[23:44] <marcham89> Hello. Quick question. Under the wireless network section. I picked my network and hit show password, but it shows this odd string of numbers and letters. How do I check the actual password?
[23:44] <storrgie1> erUSUL: netstat -rn ?
[23:44] <neozen> soho: don't know
[23:45] <storrgie1> erUSUL:
[23:45] <storrgie1> erUSUL: http://pastebin.com/d60d8b048 sorry
[23:45] <omucuvaca> hello again...is there any way i can create a software RAID 1 AFTER installing ubuntu?
[23:45] <erUSUL> storrgie1: i find "ip route" output easier to read but whatever you want
[23:45] <erUSUL> storrgie1: looks sane
[23:46] <storrgie1> erUSUL: http://pastebin.com/d192deeea
[23:46] <Guest83426> hello everybody ! I can't save my visual effects so the system don't load the awn window manager on startup
[23:46] <storrgie1> erUSUL: thats on the working machine, that remember I had to unplug the crossover and plug it back in to get working
[23:47] <erUSUL> storrgie1: can you post the one you have when it is not working?
[23:47] <TVVCR6> I'm having a problem with my audio drivers
[23:47] <TVVCR6> I have an M-Audio Delta 1010LT
[23:47] <TVVCR6> I'm not getting any sound. What do I do?
[23:48] <storrgie1> erUSUL: yes one moment
[23:49] <Konstanty> while trying to use my canoscanLiDE 70 scanner with xsane, i get the following error: "Failed to open device 'c4|:/dev/video0': invalid argument"  is there a way to remedy this problem?
[23:49] <minimec> Twigathy: Alt+F2 gstsreamer-properties
[23:50] <minimec> TVVCR6: Alt+F2 gstsreamer-properties
[23:51] <Great_Gatsby> evince isnt saving my place in books anymore
[23:51] <Konstanty> while trying to use my canoscanLiDE 70 scanner with xsane, i get the following error: "Failed to open device 'c4|:/dev/video0': invalid argument"  is there a way to remedy this problem?
[23:51] <Great_Gatsby> how do i fix that?
[23:51] <storrgie1> erUSUL: here, this might be more helpful
[23:51] <storrgie1> erUSUL: http://pastebin.com/d4d38d669
[23:51] <Guest83426> Hi! How can I save my visual settings?
[23:52] <erUSUL> storrgie1: there is no default gw on the second case. works if you set up it manually?
[23:52] <Konstanty> while trying to use my canoscanLiDE 70 scanner with xsane, i get the following error: "Failed to open device 'c4|:/dev/video0': invalid argument"  is there a way to remedy this problem?
[23:52] <wayneward> i have a problem with music skipping occasionally on intrepid it never did it on hardy heron anyone else noticed any skipping ? im on a asus 701 laptop...
[23:52] <dewente> what is the name of the most email server ?
[23:52] <storrgie1> erUSUL: i could add one, but it doesnt seem to work now... it has worked before... I dont understand the inconstancy
[23:53] <erUSUL> storrgie1: neither do i...
[23:53] <TVVCR6> minimec: I'm pressing alt+f2 but nothing happens
[23:53] <eviking> plain ubuntu 8.04 on asus eee: I need to be able to "drag" windows up to be able to see all of them. This shoul be possible by holding ALT down while using the mouse/right click. But it is not....
[23:53] <dewente> what is the name of the most use email server ? in linux
[23:53] <wayneward> postfix
[23:53] <kkathman> Can one change the "name" of the computer with relative ease?  Someone set mine up as "user-desktop" and want to give it a name
[23:53] <wayneward> sendmail
[23:53] <aguitel> anyone use epson stylus cx 5600 ?
[23:53] <erUSUL> dewente: in ubuntu default MTA is postfix. exim4 is well supported too
[23:53] <storrgie1> erUSUL: not sure why it works when i unplug and plug crossover sometimes, this is such a pain in the ass. I cant access my 2tb array of music!!!
[23:54] <Konstanty> while trying to use my canoscanLiDE 70 scanner with xsane, i get the following error: "Failed to open device 'c4|:/dev/video0': invalid argument"  is there a way to remedy this problem?
[23:54] <anteaya> any suggestions on how to recover removed file links?
[23:54] <seanh> Can anyone tell me how to switch my video driver? I think I'm using xserver-xorg-video-intel by default, and I'm getting something like bug #111257 (except I'm getting without using compiz). I think switching video driver might get around it, maybe switching to xserver-xorg-video-i810? But I don't know how to make the switch
[23:55] <zsquareplusc> Konstanty: do you also have a webcam? it might be opening the wrong device
[23:55] <tilkster> hey im back
[23:55] <tilkster> www.bridealicious.net
[23:55] <tilkster> srry
[23:55] <FloodBot1> tilkster: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:55] <TVVCR6> I need help with audio
[23:55] <erUSUL> storrgie1: well to simplify network why you do not disable the wirelles in main box and just configure raid box to act as router (share inet with main box) ?
[23:55] <minimec> TVVCR6: alt+f2 should give you a little command window in the gnome desktop environment
[23:55] <tilkster> http://rafb.net/p/uE8bi110.html
[23:55] <TVVCR6> Oh
[23:55] <tilkster> help!
[23:55] <TVVCR6> I'll just open up terminal manually
[23:56] <storrgie1> erUSUL: i like to run them independently, I really think it would be simpler to solve the issue for both machines, they both need to get internet from wireless and they both need to have IP's on the crossover
[23:56] <TVVCR6> "bash: gstsreamer-properties: command not found"
[23:56] <storrgie1> erUSUL: the raid box is on 24/7 running VM's while the main box is just for playing media and games usually
[23:56] <minimec> Konstanty: http://www.sane-project.org/unsupported/canon-lide-70.html
[23:56] <thiebaude> how do i get the floppy drive icon on my menu in 8.10?
[23:57] <Konstanty> zsquareplusc:  thanks.
[23:57] <wayneward> whats a floppy drive!!??!!  hee hee
[23:57] <thiebaude> lol
[23:57] <TVVCR6> minimec: "bash: gstsreamer-properties: command not found"
[23:57] <NDle55> hello im having troubles compiling pftpfxp-mew. ./configure goes fine But when i do "make dynamic" i get this error: In member function 'voi Cserver::SortFilelist(bool, bool)': error: array bound forbidden after parenthesized type-id    note: try removing the parentheses around type-id. I found a topic about it suggesting installing another C-compiler.Any ideas?
[23:57] <apeiron> wow. People still use floppies?
[23:57] <eviking> i use punch cards...
[23:57] <thiebaude> apeiron: i got my bookmarks saved on it
[23:57] <apeiron> NDle55, Probably want to fix the code so it says 'void' instead of 'voi'.
[23:57] <minimec> TVVCR6: so you are not using gnome ;)
[23:58] <wayneward> depends if they can use the computer and hold the zimma frame at same time!!   hee heee
[23:58] <TVVCR6> minimec: Huh?
[23:58] <TVVCR6> minimec: I am using gnome
[23:58] <TVVCR6> Ubuntu 8.10
[23:58] <erUSUL> storrgie1: you said you use dhcp. what about using static ips on the wlan0 interface ?? maybe that helpts setting the routes right
[23:59] <storrgie1> erUSUL: i know this is a huge pain in the but, but i figured it would be simple... I had it working in hardy in like 10 minutes
[23:59] <storrgie1> erUSUL: I could do that
[23:59] <bk-bk> hi there, how to convert with alien rpm to deb files ?
[23:59] <eviking> plain ubuntu 8.04 on asus eee: I need to be able to "drag" windows up to be able to see all of them. This shoul be possible by holding ALT down while using the mouse/right click. But it is not....  Any suggestions as to how I can activate this?
[23:59] <zsquareplusc> NDle55: sometims it helps to use gcc-3.3 or the like insteaf of a 4.x and then you need to tell that to conf. like "CC=gcc-3.3 configure"
[23:59] <minimec> TVVCR6: the gstreamer-properties are installed in a normal ubuntu/gnome environment.
[23:59] <minimec> TVVCR6: by default...
[23:59] <TVVCR6> minimec: Then why isn't it working for me?
[23:59] <storrgie1> erUSUL: I dont think thats the problem, i think its something to do with when network manager makes the wireless connection, it makes it AFTER eth0 is connected. So it doesnt set up the routing or resolving properly... but i dont understand these aspects of networking enough to fix it myself