[07:33] <mup> Bug #2026346 opened: When you reduce the CPU count in a server, the numa node remains for the removed CPU <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/2026346>
[08:45] <mup> Bug #2022081 changed: commissioning fails on Power9 (ppc64le) with Focal <MAAS:Invalid> <The Ubuntu-power-systems project:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/2022081>
[09:48] <mup> Bug #2026360 opened: TestLeaseSocketService.test_processNotification_dont_allow_same_address flaky test <flaky-test> <MAAS:Triaged> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/2026360>
[11:33] <mup> Bug #2024625 opened: DNS Forward failures <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/2024625>
[11:36] <mup> Bug #2024625 changed: DNS Forward failures <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/2024625>
[11:54] <mup> Bug #2024625 opened: DNS Forward failures <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/2024625>


[02:37] <guiverc> I've had issues with lubuntu daily on two older c2d boxes; 1899308  (possible regression of 1883040 feels like to me, yet ??)
[02:47] <guiverc> xubuntu impacted too by https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-cdimage/+bug/1899308; identical boxes only thus far
[06:20] <guiverc> ubuntu groovy (main) also fails to boot on same hp c2d boxes


 Busy day. Running around helping organize a birthday party :)
[06:26] <dpm> nice way to be busy :)
[06:26] <nigelb> heh
[06:49] <dholbach> good morning
[06:53] <nigelb> hi dholbach
[06:53] <dholbach> hi nigelb
[06:55] <dpm> heya dholbach
[06:56] <dholbach> hey dpm
[07:56] <czajkowski> aloha
[07:58] <bkerensa> Hello
[10:03]  * nigelb hugs dholbach
[10:03] <nigelb> Love the responses in the new blog post.
[10:04] <dholbach> yeah, me too :)
[10:04]  * dholbach hugs nigelb
[11:20] <mhall119> http://www.reddit.com/r/Ubuntu/comments/sfucv/ubuntu_1204_is_for_app_developers/ upvote please
[11:29] <nigelb> upvoted
[11:33] <cprofitt> balloons: ping
[11:39] <czajkowski> http://www.breakingnews.ie/ireland/cork-teenager-joanne-to-address-un-technology-conference-547976.html
[13:47] <jcastro> dholbach: I'm travelling to Openstack conf today, so I won't be at our hangout
[13:47] <jcastro> I will miss you guys!
[13:47] <dholbach> jcastro, you're travelling quite a bit
[13:47] <dholbach> jcastro, enjoy the conf!
[13:47] <jcastro> yeah
[13:47] <jcastro> 2 more trips and I'm Gold!
[13:47] <jcastro> this will be good though, Mark is doing the keynote tomorrow
[13:48] <dholbach> and who doesn't like a golden Jorge
[13:48] <jcastro> and then we're going to charm school on the hardware we have there
[13:48] <jcastro> popey: guess what fits in my carryon?
[13:48] <jcastro> That's right, the hp N40L.
[13:48] <jcastro> backup openstack node!
[13:48] <popey> lol
[13:48] <jcastro> I am not kidding, it fits perfectly right in there
[14:01] <mhall119> jcastro: that'll be fun to explain to TSA
[14:01] <jcastro> actually it wasn't bad
[14:01] <mhall119> TSA: "What's this?", Jorge: "It's the cloud"
[14:01] <jcastro> I just had to remove it, scan it seperately
[14:01] <cjohnston> lol
[14:01] <jcastro> I did come like 2 hours early just in case
[14:01] <mhall119> http://xkcd.com/908/
[14:02] <mhall119> jorge needs a black hat
[14:11] <cjohnston> jcastro: why do you have to be picky.. tell mhall119 to fix it
[14:21] <jcastro> cjohnston: I was just being thorough
[14:21] <jcastro> because you would hate me if I knew it did that and didn't tell you
[14:21] <jcastro> but I agree, mhall119 should fix it
[14:21] <jcastro> mhall119: and then MARKDOWN ALL THE THINGS
[14:22] <cjohnston> bbl
[14:22] <cjohnston> work
[14:45] <technoviking> jcastro: so, what do you we should do next for the forums? I think tiaz and I have done everything we can
[14:45] <jcastro> ok I thought the new hold up was the sso library was broken
[14:45] <jcastro> I got an email yesterday?
[14:46] <technoviking> The test forum will not talk to login.u.c
[14:46] <technoviking> tiaz and I can not find anything in the logs for help diagnose
[14:47] <jcastro> technoviking: what channel are you guys in?
[14:47] <technoviking> PM usually
[14:48] <jcastro> k
[14:48] <jcastro> let me see what he needs, maybe we can get help from another team
[14:48] <jcastro> sigh
[14:48] <jcastro> technoviking: it will be awesome the minute we figure this out
[14:48] <jcastro> and then vb 5.x comes out like the next day
[14:48] <technoviking> heh
[14:49] <technoviking> think Stuart team could help, but they are swamped
[14:50] <jcastro> yeah
[14:50] <jcastro> I asked him for something and he was like "love to help, ask me in 6 months"
[14:51] <technoviking> if not solved by UDS, going to beg SABDFL to let upgrade procede and they get SSO worked out
[14:54] <jcastro> I don't get the feeling he's going to do that
[14:55] <jcastro> If it was any other team that could fix it other an ISD this wouldn't be so hard I think
[14:55] <jono> jcastro, dholbach, mhall119, balloons I might be  a few mins late, feel free to start without me
[14:56] <jcastro> jono: I'm getting on a plane in minute
[14:56] <mhall119> jono: we can't use the normal hangout without you
[14:56] <mhall119> jcastro: that's no excuse
[14:56] <technoviking> the worst thing is, the files I got from Ryan Troy were incomplete, solve one thing by copying file from prod forum server
[14:56] <mhall119> I wonder how well in-flight wifi would handle a hangout
[14:56] <technoviking> jcastro: have a good flight
[14:59] <technoviking> jcastro: want a slot during the lightning talk to show off the largest newspaper archive in the USA, which will soon be running on Ubuntu
[14:59] <technoviking> 10 million PDFs, OCR to be fully searchable
[15:00] <dholbach> mhall119, I'll start a hangout then
[15:01] <cprofitt> technoviking: nice!
[15:01] <dholbach> jcastro, have a good flight
[15:01] <cprofitt> yeah -- safe and good flight to those travelling
[16:02] <jono> dpm, https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/extras/canonical.com/horsemen?authuser=0&hl=en&shxp=1&eid=
[16:03] <dpm> joining in...
[16:07] <dholbach> brb
[16:31] <dholbach> alright my friends - I call it a day - have a great rest of your day
[16:31] <cprofitt> balloons: ping
[16:32] <balloons> cprofitt, pong
[16:32] <balloons> dholbach, ciao!
[16:32] <cprofitt> hey... is it an issue if I can not do all the test cases?
[16:32] <balloons> cprofitt, no, no issue at all
[16:32] <cprofitt> cool... the iscsi test cases are difficult
[16:32] <balloons> do what you can do, that;s all we can ask :-)
[16:33] <balloons> yea.. sometimes time, sometimes hardware prevents you from getting everything
[16:33] <cprofitt> I got 8 done last night... and should be able to do that many tonight as well.
[16:35] <balloons> that's awesome cprofitt
[16:35] <balloons> I'm trying to finish getting info out to everyone
[16:35] <balloons> then I'll be sending a summary of what we did collectively around
[16:35] <cprofitt> cool...
[16:36] <cprofitt> I tried to make some other aware of the process last night as well...
[18:32] <bkerensa> Mmm... Release Party catering order placed :)
[18:41] <jono> balloons, social media done
[18:41] <jono> grabbing lunch
[19:53] <jcastro> hmmm
[19:53] <jcastro> guy on this plane running ubuntu
[19:53] <jcastro> I am going to go say hi
[19:53] <jo-erlend> :)
[19:53] <jo-erlend> say hello from me?
[19:55] <jo-erlend> mm. I was wondering if there's any chance of getting an ubuntu subdomain to accompany my mail address?
[19:56] <jcastro> score!! Random web developer guy on my plane running ubuntu!
[19:56] <jcastro> I gave him an ubuntu usb stick
[19:56] <jo-erlend> nice! :)
[20:01] <JanC> jo-erlend: as an Ubuntu Member you get a people.ubuntu.com/~username address, I think...
[20:02] <MrChrisDruif> JanC; true
[20:02] <JanC> but no subdomain
[20:02] <JanC> (probably to avoid possible clashes)
[20:02] <jo-erlend> oh, but that's fine.
[20:03] <jo-erlend> thanks.
[20:08] <balloons> jcastro, cool :-) neat idea to check next time I travel..
[20:08] <balloons> I'm sure no one will mind me staring down there laptop screens for signs of ubuntu? ;-)
[20:08] <pleia2> especially if you're on a flight to SF, we tend to have an unfair proportion of linux users out here in the valley
[20:09] <pleia2> (we have Ubuntu Hours regularly where we pick up strays in the coffee shops who just happen to be there)
[20:09] <JanC> I'm sure the crew will mind if you walk all around the plane though  :P
[20:09] <jcastro> I try not to spy on people but I always glance to see what they use
[20:09] <jcastro> I saw this guy using outlook at the terminal
[20:10] <jcastro> man ...it's hard to believe what some companies make people use.
[20:10] <jcastro> he had like this card reader security thing
[20:10]  * MrChrisDruif has missed the idea?
[20:10] <jcastro> and I could tell it wasn't working because all these windows kept popping up making a sound
[20:10] <balloons> jcastro, yea.. those things are fun
[20:11] <JanC> jcastro: smartcards / card readers are nice (if they work well, of course)
[20:11] <JanC> we have smartcard-based ID-cards here in Belgium, works fine with Ubuntu too  ☺
[20:12] <JanC> makes it easy to fill income tax forms etc.
[20:17] <JanC> (and tax declarations here use standard web technology, unlike the Netherlands where their tax software has a GUI based on a 10 year old copy of wxWindows that clashes with about everything in a modern linux distro ;) )
[20:19] <jo-erlend> if I update my launchpad name, will the email address and people.ubuntu.com url automatically be updated?
[20:20] <cjohnston> jo-erlend: your launchpad username?
[20:20] <jo-erlend> cjohnston, yes.
[20:21] <cjohnston> it would AFAIK because the stuff is all scripted, but I can't imagine its much of a good idea to change it unless you really need to. create confusion
[20:21] <jo-erlend> that's why I'm thinking of doing it now, before I depend too much on it. It's so long.
[20:21] <jcastro> renames in launchpad; the next great computer science barrier that needs to be broken
[20:21] <czajkowski> jcastro: I do them every day
[20:22] <czajkowski> as long as the name is free :)
[20:22] <jo-erlend> also; how does changing the launchpad username affect OpenID?
[20:23] <czajkowski> it doesnt
[20:23] <czajkowski> thats your email address
[20:23] <czajkowski> changing that causes issues
[20:23] <czajkowski> many issues
[20:23] <czajkowski> but can again be fixed easily enough
[20:23] <jo-erlend> elaborate?
[20:24] <jo-erlend> right now, I don't depend too much on the addresses for anything outside Launchpad.
[20:25] <czajkowski> then you're fine
[20:26] <cprofitt> balloons: ping
[20:27] <balloons> cprofitt, pong
[20:27] <cprofitt> the testing tonight -- Pre-release or daily?
[20:27] <cprofitt> looks like pre-release is just setup for later... nothing is inside it
[20:28] <balloons> cprofitt, I'm hoping the dailies last that long
[20:29] <balloons> but they are actively discussing :-) there are new fixes that are rolling into new spins
[20:29] <balloons> it would make sense for you to test the latest.. if they have a newer than daily out, test it :-)
[20:30] <balloons> i'm trying to not have that happen until tomorrow for consistency
[20:30]  * cprofitt nods
[20:32] <balloons> cprofitt, they tell me the dailies are still ok.. I assume they will be around :-)
[20:33]  * cprofitt nods
[20:38] <jcastro> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuOpenWeek
[20:38] <jcastro> feel free to sign up balloons!
[20:38] <jcastro> and mhall!
[20:39] <jcastro> and whoever!
[20:50] <jono> jcastro, what time do you land again?
[20:51] <jcastro> 4:30
[20:51] <jcastro> ~2.5 hoursish
[20:52] <balloons> lol.. i didn't think plane wifi let you ssh or irc
[20:52] <jcastro> it might, but I'm on web irc. alice-irc ftw.
[20:52] <jcastro> I charmed it, you can try it. :)
[20:52] <jcastro> that might be a good demo for a demo week
[20:58] <jono> jcastro, cool
[20:59] <jono> jcastro, I think it might make more sense for you to meet me at Rockridge BArt station
[20:59] <jono> this way Chuck and I can escape the traffic
[20:59] <jono> it is only an extra 20mins on BArt
[20:59] <jono> jcastro, actually, scratch that
[20:59] <jono> jcastro, meet me at West Oakland BArt station
[21:00] <jcastro> ok, west oakland
[21:00] <jcastro> hey, what direction is that from the airport? Or does the bart only go one way from there?
[21:01] <jono> yeah, when you get to SFO, get on the Pittsburg/Bay Point (yellow) line
[21:01] <jono> it will take you right to West Oakland
[21:01] <jono> this way I can avoid us getting suck in traffic
[21:01] <jcastro> easy enough
[21:02] <jono> jcastro, and then call me when you arrive at Embarcadero and I will set off to pick you up at the station
[21:02] <jcastro> ok embarcadero is on the way to west oakland?
[21:03] <greg-g> yeah
[21:03] <greg-g> last stop in SF before going in the tunnel under the bay
[21:04] <greg-g> be sure to call/text when at the station, the cell service doesn't work otherwise :)
[21:05] <jono> jcastro, yep
[21:05] <jcastro> ok, I'll keep an eye out for James too
[21:05] <jono> yeah, what greg-g said :-)
[21:05] <jono> James?
[21:05] <jcastro> hetfield, why do you think I am coming over there?
[21:06] <jono> lol
[21:06] <jono> he is up in Sonoma :-)
[21:17] <bodhi_zazen> FWIW - http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1961135
[21:17] <bodhi_zazen> trying to set a time for FC meetings
[21:21] <bkerensa> greg-g: Their is service in the BART tunnel now?
[21:22] <MrChrisDruif> bodhi_zazen; How's Zenix getting along?
[21:22] <greg-g> bkerensa: no, at the stations
[21:22] <technoviking> jcastro: are you in the Bay area till UDS?
[21:22] <bkerensa> ahh :)
[21:23] <greg-g> bkerensa: yeah, you can call for 30 seconds at a time :)
[21:23] <greg-g> bkerensa: just enough time for your twitter updates ;)
[21:23] <bkerensa> greg-g: If jono lives in the Walnut land why is he getting him in Oakland? :P
[21:23] <bkerensa> Doesn't BART go all the way out... I thought it did
[21:24] <greg-g> I thought he was in oakland area not walnut, but I might be working on old knowledge
[21:24] <greg-g> I don't get over to the east bay very often
[21:24] <greg-g> (btw, what is pig latin for "beast"? ;) )
[21:24] <bodhi_zazen> MrChrisDruif: probably off topic here, come over to #zenix if you wish
[21:24] <jono> bkerensa, I am taking him to a band practice in Oakland
[21:25] <bkerensa> ahh
[21:26] <bkerensa> jcastro: Just watch out for the BART Cow's http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rqtZyA0GPKM
[21:27] <jcastro> technoviking: no, out on friday night and back in a week or whatever the dates are for uds. hah.
[21:29] <bkerensa> heh
[21:30] <jcastro> bkerensa: when I'm with clint I'm going to look at subordinateing that apache spdy charm on subway
[21:30] <jcastro> that would be _wicked_
[21:31] <bkerensa> jcastro: we should hack it at UDS?
[21:31] <bkerensa> OpenPhoto Charm is almost ready for a push and review and I'll likely let Clint poke at it with a stick a few times
[21:32] <jcastro> I don't think it even needs to be hacked
[21:32] <jcastro> I think the subordinate charm just needs some reverse proxy mumbo jumbo
[21:32] <bkerensa> ahh
[21:32]  * jcastro uses technical terms
[21:32] <bkerensa> does the mod_spdy use more resources? I wonder if someone has benchmarked it vs vanilla apache and optimized apache
[21:33] <bkerensa> if it doesnt I need to start using it
[21:33] <jcastro> bkerensa: so the idea with subodinates is you deploy subway, but then just plop apache or nginx (whatever you choose) on top of the instance
[21:33] <jcastro> google and twitter are the only people serving spdy
[21:34] <jcastro> all the graphs I see show significant performance over http, and it's all over ssl.
[21:34] <jcastro> but I don't think I've ever used gmail and be like "oh that feels much faster"
[21:34] <bkerensa> hmm
[21:34] <bkerensa> well my page load times on my blog is 688ms or better
[21:34] <bkerensa> not sure if it could improve me much better but I would possibly deploy it on clients nodes
[21:34] <jcastro> either way, having it easily deployable so people can find out the answers to those questions is why I want to do this
[21:35] <bkerensa> yeah
[21:35] <jcastro> you need to be under < 250ms!
[21:35] <bkerensa> jcastro: is your blog under 250ms
[21:35] <bkerensa> :D
[21:35] <jcastro> yep
[21:36] <bkerensa> jcastro: no fair you have zero images and are running what a html5 theme
[21:36] <bkerensa> :D
[21:37] <jcastro> https://developers.google.com/pagespeed/#url=http_3A_2F_2Fbenjaminkerensa.com&mobile=false
[21:38] <jcastro> you're getting a 96 out of 100!
[21:38] <jcastro> I only get 82!
[21:38] <jcastro> who hosts your blog? dang.
[21:39]  * greg-g gets a 95
[21:39] <greg-g> I beat jcastro ? weird https://developers.google.com/pagespeed/#url=http_3A_2F_2Fblog.grossmeier.net&mobile=false
[21:39] <czajkowski> 94
[21:40] <jcastro> good to know I have the slowest one
[21:40] <jcastro> go cloud!
[21:40] <greg-g> :)
[21:40] <bkerensa> jcastro: if you had the same content or at least the same size... I would blow the bricks off your setup ;)
[21:40]  * greg-g hugs rose, http://rose.makesad.us/
[21:41] <czajkowski> whoo got my blog all updated this evening and added all my plugins working
[21:41] <czajkowski> am easily pleased but wanted it working for ages :)
[21:41] <jcastro> bkerensa: I'll take that bet.
[21:41] <bkerensa> LOL
[21:41] <jcastro> when I get back, we'll do test domains, and have the exact same content, and then bench them both a bunch
[21:42] <bkerensa> jcastro: I have CDN, Optimized DNS for Static Content so Content Downloads faster
[21:42] <bkerensa> :)
[21:42] <pleia2> jcastro: mine's slower, but that's because I use html from 1999 :)
[21:42] <jcastro> bkerensa: mine is served from Amazon, they run christmas.
[21:42] <greg-g> lol
[21:42] <bkerensa> also major caching... varnish and YUI compressing plush a dash of CSS and JS optimization
[21:42] <jcastro> bkerensa: wordpress? We should get you on the charm yo.
[21:42] <jcastro> I mean, reviewing the charm, etc.
[21:42] <bkerensa> jcastro: Amazon may server Christmas but I use MaxCDN and they serve Mashable, Techcrunch and every other top blog
[21:42] <bkerensa> :P
[21:42] <pleia2> (I think I have the standard problem of "sysadmin by day doesn't want to fix her own systems at night")
[21:42] <bkerensa> serve*
[21:43]  * czajkowski hugs pleia2
[21:43]  * pleia2 hugs
[21:43] <czajkowski> pleia2: I used to feel that way about testing and writing test cases
[21:43] <bkerensa> jcastro: also DDoS proof :)
[21:43] <czajkowski> stop doing QA I write user manusals and test cases in spare time
[21:43] <czajkowski> *manuals
[21:43]  * czajkowski needs to go back to learn how to type
[21:43] <mhall119> pleia2: I think the problem is "The at-home boss doesn't pay enough and can't fire me, so why bother"
[21:44] <pleia2> mhall119: haha, truth!
[21:44] <czajkowski> say hello to pretty new theme :)
[21:44] <czajkowski> http://www.lczajkowski.com/2012/04/18/time-flies-when-youre-busy-having-fun-working-and-organising/
[21:45] <bkerensa> jcastro: Pro Tip - Switch all your JS from your local host to CDNJS (http://www.cdnjs.com/)
[21:45] <jcastro> bkerensa: if you're up for it we could have brandon blitz them both right now, he's a neutral third party.
[21:46] <bkerensa> jcastro: Hit me hard :) Siege me
[21:46] <bkerensa> :P
[21:46] <jcastro> imbrandon: Can you mega-blitz http://www.jorgecastro.org and http://benjaminkerensa.com/ and generate one of those sexy reports?
[21:47]  * bkerensa switches attack mode on
[21:47] <jcastro> mhall119: see, server stuff is so much more awesome than unity!
[21:48] <bkerensa> jcastro: http://blog.cloudflare.com/introducing-im-under-attack-mode
[21:49] <jcastro> yea brandon is all about cloudflare, he's investigating that for omgubuntu
[21:49] <bkerensa> jcastro: cloudflare is only half of the key.... omgubuntu needs maxcdn + varnish + yui + minification
[21:50] <jcastro> not running 65 wordpress plugins might be a good start. :)
[21:50] <greg-g> czajkowski: ooo, nice new theme
[21:51] <bkerensa> jcastro: that helps too
[21:51] <bkerensa> jcastro: do they use W3 Total Cache?
[21:52] <czajkowski> greg-g: need my bright coloured fix must have orange and yellow and purple
[21:53] <czajkowski> hard to find nice ones
[21:53] <czajkowski> greg-g: sorry for explosiions in your inbox today
[21:54] <czajkowski> am moderating all the teams mails
[21:54] <czajkowski> we need a plan B
[21:54] <marcoceppi> bkerensa: no, we couldn't get it to play nice. For now we're on WP Super Cache
[21:55] <jcastro> marcoceppi: do you still have that blitz account?
[21:55] <greg-g> czajkowski: hehe, I filter those emails :)
[21:55] <jcastro> I feel the need to compete with bkerensa
[21:55] <czajkowski> greg-g: right dips you're it tomorrow, you can do it :)
[21:55] <greg-g> czajkowski: :)
[21:55] <marcoceppi> jcastro: yeah
[21:55] <greg-g> I'm on a plane much of tomorrow, so, no emails ;)
[21:56] <marcoceppi> jcastro: but I can't blitz either of you unless you put a file in your root directory
[21:56] <czajkowski> greg-g: bah
[21:56] <greg-g> but yeah, I have no idea how to filter that stuff given the langauge barier, just like I don't know what to do in the channel :)
[21:56] <marcoceppi> but I can always SIEGE ALL OF YOU
[21:57] <jcastro> yeah siege us
[21:57] <jcastro> I want to see if I'm even close
[21:57]  * greg-g is curious
[21:57] <jcastro> if it's not obvious then we can step it up
[21:57] <bkerensa> marcoceppi: please siege me and jcastro with 1000 simu users
[21:57] <bkerensa> :D
[21:57] <greg-g> how his host would do
[21:57] <bkerensa> greg-g: :) depends is it share, vps or dedicated? :)
[21:58] <marcoceppi> bkerensa: incoming
[21:58]  * marcoceppi runs siege from a few different servers
[21:59] <bkerensa> yes :) so its balanced across the geo locations
[21:59] <marcoceppi> actually, my test siege shows your site throwing 500's
[22:00] <bkerensa> :D
[22:00] <marcoceppi> only 29 successful transactions out of 1900
[22:00] <bkerensa> marcoceppi: it filtered you
[22:00] <bkerensa> :P
[22:00] <jcastro> oh boo, cheater
[22:00]  * marcoceppi spins up 20 micros
[22:00] <marcoceppi> filter this!
[22:01] <bkerensa> marcoceppi: its cloudflare it will filter your attacks when it sees it as abusive
[22:01] <bkerensa> :P
[22:01] <jcastro> marcoceppi: hit me bro
[22:01] <marcoceppi> So I need to siege through tor then
[22:02] <imbrandon> ?
[22:02] <marcoceppi> jcastro won
[22:02] <marcoceppi> http://paste.ubuntu.com/936098/
[22:02] <imbrandon> yea you cant seige cloudflare
[22:02] <bkerensa> marcoceppi: if you give me a ip or range I can whitelist
[22:02] <bkerensa> :D
[22:02] <imbrandon> jcastro:
[22:02] <bkerensa> then I will win
[22:03] <jcastro> heh
[22:03]  * jcastro goes off to flex in the corner
[22:03] <marcoceppi> bkerensa here you go, you lost: http://paste.ubuntu.com/936101/
[22:03] <bkerensa> imbrandon: if you whitelist you can because cf will accept it all and allow me to win :)
[22:03] <imbrandon> ahh
[22:03] <marcoceppi> 96% avail > 1.6% availability :)
[22:03] <imbrandon> yea i dont whitelist :)
[22:03] <bkerensa> but you have to whitelist whomever is sieging
[22:03] <jcastro> pm him an ip range
[22:03] <bkerensa> imbrandon: me neither :) in fact I block lots of ranges
[22:03] <bkerensa> :D
[22:03] <jcastro> so I can put him out of his misery
[22:04] <imbrandon> yup same here
[22:04] <imbrandon> i block tons of countrys actually
[22:04] <imbrandon> china cant see me :)
[22:04] <imbrandon> lol
[22:04] <bkerensa> imbrandon: do you use MaxCDN or any other CDN?
[22:04] <imbrandon> cloudfront and hp
[22:04] <imbrandon> new cdn
[22:04] <bkerensa> yeah
[22:04] <imbrandon> and google storage psudo cdn
[22:04] <cjohnston> did yall see RS's openstack announcement?
[22:04] <bkerensa> MaxCDN has sponsored me for two years so I use them :D
[22:04] <imbrandon> cjohnston: yea
[22:05] <imbrandon> bkerensa: nice :)
[22:05] <jcastro> imbrandon: pm bkerensa your ip and siege him, I want to win.
[22:05] <bkerensa> LOL
[22:05] <imbrandon> bkerensa: yea i tend to keep tabs and accounts on most webservers so i konw what tool is right for what job :)
[22:05] <bkerensa> imbrandon: tell jcastro he cant win against a optimized platform with cdn and cloudflare :)
[22:05] <imbrandon> its a range of i ips
[22:05] <greg-g> bkerensa: a shared host, with about 4 people. a 2.66 Ghz Core i7 quad-core Xeon, 12 gigs ram
[22:06] <imbrandon> i seige from a cluster :)
[22:06] <imbrandon> let me get to the console
[22:06] <jcastro> ok let's do this. Send him your range so I can gloat.
[22:06] <bkerensa> greg-g: is the Apache and MySQL optimized properly? If so you could likely do pretty well :P
[22:06] <bkerensa> :D
[22:06] <bkerensa> jcastro: Winner buys whisky
[22:06] <bkerensa> :P
[22:07] <jcastro> make it rum and you're on
[22:07] <greg-g> bkerensa: probably pretty well, I'm not the sys admin, Asheesh is, who's way smarter than me :)
[22:07] <bkerensa> jcastro: ok if I lose I will buy you a rum drink :)
[22:07] <imbrandon> k one sec its booting up the nodes now
[22:08] <jcastro> fair enough.
[22:08] <jcastro> this is fun, it's made an otherwise tedious flight interesting
[22:08] <greg-g> haha
[22:08] <bkerensa> jcastro: whats your favorite rum drink? :) I like Caribou Lous
[22:08] <bkerensa> :P
[22:09] <jcastro> Cuba Libre of course!
[22:10] <imbrandon> <IP_ADDRESS> , <IP_ADDRESS> , <IP_ADDRESS> , <IP_ADDRESS> , <IP_ADDRESS>
[22:10] <imbrandon> give me a sec to install siege and get ready
[22:10] <bkerensa> ok
[22:10] <bkerensa> white listing
[22:11] <imbrandon> jcastro: waht parms yall running ?
[22:11] <jcastro> I think he went with 1000 sim users?
[22:11] <jcastro> doesn't matter, whatever you think is best, as long as it's the same for both of us
[22:11] <imbrandon> bkerensa: oop forgot one
[22:11] <imbrandon> <IP_ADDRESS>
[22:12] <imbrandon> i dont know the parms need example :)
[22:12] <bkerensa> imbrandon: <IP_ADDRESS>/16
[22:12] <bkerensa> whitelisted the range
[22:12] <imbrandon> :)
[22:12] <bkerensa> might take a minute or so for it to propagate to Hong Kong etc
[22:12] <bkerensa> :D
[22:12] <imbrandon> np, i'm opening a console still to each one
[22:13] <imbrandon> wasent prepaired :)
[22:13] <jcastro> I believe you are stalling bkerensa
[22:13] <imbrandon> ok someone give me the siege cmd so i dont hgave to man it :)
[22:14] <jcastro> I am on a plane, apt is slooowwwww
[22:15] <marcoceppi> imbrandon: siege -c 1000
[22:15] <imbrandon> k
[22:15] <bkerensa> siege -d1 -c 1000 -i domain
[22:15] <bkerensa> :D
[22:15] <bkerensa> -i adds interactive and makes it more intersting
[22:16] <imbrandon> ok where am i pounding ?
[22:16] <czajkowski> should not edit blog when tired,borked it
[22:17] <bkerensa> imbrandon: benjaminkerensa.com and www.jorgecastro.org I think
[22:17] <bkerensa> pound away :D
[22:17] <imbrandon> i'm soo gonna charm this manual cluter pounding later
[22:18] <imbrandon> awe crap
[22:18] <imbrandon> too many files open
[22:18] <imbrandon> hahah give me a sec
[22:19] <greg-g> the suspense! it kills!
[22:20] <bkerensa> :D
[22:20] <imbrandon> heh server wont stay up long enough to let me get all 6 nodes to seige
[22:20] <jcastro> the suspense is brtual
[22:20] <imbrandon> lol
[22:20] <imbrandon> neither
[22:21] <imbrandon> the one out of 6 nodes had this
[22:21] <imbrandon> ransactions:                      29 hits
[22:21] <imbrandon> Availability:                   1.54 %
[22:21] <imbrandon> terrible terrible :)
[22:21] <jcastro> pastebin bro
[22:21] <imbrandon> one sec
[22:21] <imbrandon> dude 6 times ?
[22:21] <imbrandon> hehe
[22:21] <jcastro> just once if the #'s are similar enough
[22:22] <imbrandon> http://paste.ubuntu.com/936114/
[22:22] <imbrandon> yea they are all very close, but i couldent get all of them going at once befpre the servers failed
[22:22] <bkerensa> imbrandon: does Jorge win the rum drink? :D
[22:22] <imbrandon> yea i'd say so :)
[22:22] <imbrandon> one sec too, hold on
[22:23] <jcastro> boo, you didn't even show up dude
[22:23]  * jcastro parades around flexing
[22:23] <bkerensa> imbrandon: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZEYl5dg9Guc <-- still this though ;P
[22:24] <bkerensa> jcastro: Ok :) I will get you rum at UDS then :P
[22:24] <jcastro> it's ok, it wasn't a fair bet
[22:24] <jcastro> I can see how you can think you're almost as awesome as me and stuff.
[22:24] <imbrandon> running it on my site
[22:24] <imbrandon> still going
[22:24] <imbrandon> and going
[22:24] <bkerensa> jcastro: :) I was planning on buying you a drink anyways heh
[22:24] <imbrandon> no red yet
[22:25] <imbrandon> ok gonna stop it cuz this just aint fair to yall
[22:25] <greg-g> haha
[22:25] <greg-g> imbrandon: mind hitting blog.grossmeier.net, I'm just curious
[22:25] <greg-g> if I disconnect from IRC, you'll know to stop
[22:25] <imbrandon> http://paste.ubuntu.com/936120/
[22:25] <bkerensa> imbrandon: jcastro needs to smush all his images :D
[22:25] <imbrandon> greg-g: sure , one sec
[22:25] <greg-g> coolio
[22:26]  * greg-g gets a little tense
[22:26] <jcastro> I do, I usually just raw take them from shutter
[22:26] <jcastro> would a normal pngcrush do the trick?
[22:26] <imbrandon> bkerensa: ^^ now THERE is a webserver boyz :) thats brandonholtsclaw.com without cloudflare btw
[22:26] <imbrandon> jcastro: yea
[22:26] <imbrandon> i got a script that will give ya good parms
[22:26] <imbrandon> one min
[22:26] <jcastro> I'll do it tonight
[22:26] <jcastro> imbrandon: jet that over to me in email pls
[22:26] <imbrandon> kk its in my /usr/local/bin on osx
[22:26] <imbrandon> kk
[22:27] <jcastro> plane landing soon, out of juice
[22:27] <jcastro> tty all in a bit!
[22:27] <imbrandon> its optipng tho, imho its better
[22:27] <jcastro> whatever I can script. :)
[22:27] <greg-g> jcastro: later, welcome to SF
[22:27] <imbrandon> Availability:                  99.27 %
[22:27] <imbrandon> Elapsed time:                  44.69 secs
[22:27] <imbrandon> Data transferred:             456.34 MB
[22:27] <imbrandon> Response time:                  2.20 secs
[22:27] <imbrandon> Transaction rate:             326.05 trans/sec
[22:27] <imbrandon> Throughput:                    10.21 MB/sec
[22:27] <imbrandon> Concurrency:                  716.44
[22:27] <imbrandon> Successful transactions:       14571
[22:27] <imbrandon> i lub my website
[22:27] <bkerensa> LOL
[22:28] <bkerensa> imbrandon: what param did u siege it with?
[22:28] <imbrandon> siege -d1 -c 1000 -i http://brandonholtsclaw.com
[22:28] <bkerensa> I wanna run from one of my boxes :D
[22:29] <bkerensa> imbrandon: what kind of pipe do you have? :P
[22:29] <imbrandon> aws
[22:29] <bkerensa> some unmetered
[22:29] <bkerensa> ahh
[22:29] <imbrandon> err actually its on hpcloud
[22:29] <imbrandon> forfor i switched
[22:30] <bkerensa> imbrandon: you loving that az1 :)
[22:30] <imbrandon> :) i have ummm 17 ami burning right now
[22:30] <imbrandon> :)
[22:31] <bkerensa> expensive
[22:31] <bkerensa> :D
[22:31] <bkerensa> well on hpcloud its free but yeah
[22:31] <bkerensa> :D
[22:31] <imbrandon> 10 node sql cluster, 5 node nginx web cluter and two juju testing boxes
[22:31] <bkerensa> should spinup a hpcloud instance and seed all the Ubuntu ISO's
[22:31] <bkerensa> :D
[22:31] <imbrandon> heh
[22:32] <imbrandon> that and i tweak the shit out of my setup. check my block sometime
[22:32] <imbrandon> i r make websites fast :)
[22:32] <bkerensa> :D
[22:32] <imbrandon> brb
[22:32] <imbrandon> blog*
[22:33] <greg-g> oh no, he forgot to seige me :)
[22:33] <imbrandon> like that little omg site that me and the other fellas been working on, yea i got nginx runnning so smooth on it that its serving 3+ million hits a month from one m1.small on aws AND dont have the microcache or nginx static cache in place yet
[22:34] <imbrandon> greg-g: nope just need mt dew first, give me 5 min
[22:34] <greg-g> haha
[22:35] <bkerensa> imbrandon: use loadimpact much?
[22:35] <bkerensa> imbrandon: when you finish the omg charm are you guys publishing it?
[22:37] <marcoceppi> bkerensa: it's already published, you can look at it at anytime
[22:37] <bkerensa> marcoceppi: its just the wordpress charm?
[22:37] <marcoceppi> https://code.launchpad.net/~marcoceppi/charms/oneiric/omgubuntu-wp/trunk && http://jujucharms.com/~marcoceppi/oneiric/omgubuntu-wp
[22:38] <marcoceppi> bkerensa: No, it's the WordPress charm on crack, we'll be back-porting a lot of the cool stuff to the WordPress charm when we're done with the the omg charm
[22:40] <greg-g> that's awesome
[22:42] <bkerensa> imbrandon: Hmm http://paste.ubuntu.com/936136/
[22:43] <bkerensa> imbrandon: loadimpact shows that jcastro's site has way higher load times under minimal and increase client connects
[22:44] <bkerensa> 22.49s loadtime peak for him and 5s here
[22:44] <bkerensa> Hmm I think I wanna deploy marcoceppi's charm with my content on aws and load test and see how it differs
[22:45]  * bkerensa is kind of afraid of nginx
[22:45] <bkerensa> imbrandon: I just loadimpacted your site and it is very flawless :) blew me and jcastro out of the water
[22:50] <greg-g> bkerensa: http://loadimpact.com/load-test/blog.grossmeier.net-0ae006f5f59086c7e9e5aceef4611a00
[22:50] <jcastro> bkerensa: I suspect we'll be the same, I'm on AWS
[22:51] <greg-g> and that's with someone hitting mysql hard at the same time (asheesh was running some python process)
[22:55] <cprofitt> hey greg-g and jcastro and bkerensa
[22:55] <cprofitt> marcoceppi:
[22:55] <cprofitt> anyone else I may have left out!
[22:56] <cprofitt> :-)
[22:56]  * greg-g waves
[22:56] <cprofitt> how are you and the family greg-g ?
[22:57] <greg-g> good good
[22:58] <greg-g> going to take our first flight with the baby tonight!
[22:58] <greg-g> crazy!
[22:58] <cprofitt> I have not done that with any of my kids yet
[22:58] <cprofitt> best of luck
[22:58] <greg-g> thanks!
[22:58] <cprofitt> Hey... are you a director of technology?
[22:59] <cprofitt> I noticed on your blog you talked about SETDA
[23:00] <greg-g> heh, I am the Education Technology and Policy Coordinator at Creative Commons :)
[23:00] <cprofitt> I can not believe I did not know that...
[23:01] <cprofitt> I work in K-12 and have presented multiple times at Educational Events in NY State
[23:01] <greg-g> long title which means: if it deal with the tech side of things, I'm your man (for edu related stuff). I also do some policy work, but that mostly falls on my boss, Cable Green. He's the real politician :)
[23:01] <greg-g> oh cool
[23:01] <cprofitt> NYSCATE is the annual statewide show in NY... you and I will have to talk a bit
[23:01]  * greg-g nods
[23:01] <cprofitt> I also go to Ed Tech Day at Ithaca College
[23:01] <cprofitt> very cool dude.
[23:02] <greg-g> I am mostly focused on metadata right now, LRMI (http://lrmi.net) and how it can help make OER more findable and higher quality (by aligning to common core standards)
[23:02] <greg-g> but, if you're curious, come over to #lrmi and be one of two members in the channel ;)
[23:02] <cprofitt> I will add the that to auto-join
[23:02] <greg-g> :)
[23:03] <cprofitt> I focused a lot on how FOSS met the needs of NETP 2010 and ISTE standards
[23:03] <cprofitt> OER is a part of that
[23:03] <greg-g> interesting!
[23:03] <cprofitt> open courseware, etc
[23:04] <cprofitt> having teachers write curriculum and moving away from expensive publisher would really help $$$ wise...
[23:04] <greg-g> yep yep. We (CC), of course, are pushing for more openly licensed educational content
[23:04] <greg-g> word
[23:04] <cprofitt> and I think we would get better material that could be adapted much faster
[23:04] <greg-g> ++
[23:06] <cprofitt> http://www.infoworld.com/d/open-source/microsofts-fake-validation-openofficeorg-805
[23:06] <cprofitt> read the quote from Pittsford...
[23:06] <cprofitt> that is the district I work in
[23:07]  * cprofitt facepalms
[23:08] <greg-g> eek
[23:08]  * cprofitt nods
[23:08] <cprofitt> the answer ofcourse is -- 'me'
[23:08] <cprofitt> and I fix the Microsoft stuff... and the Apple stuff... and the Symantec stuff... etc
[23:08] <greg-g> heh
[23:10] <imbrandon> sorry greg-g gonna have to take a rain check, something else popup up here
[23:10] <greg-g> man, that's a good video, propoganda wise
[23:11] <greg-g> imbrandon: no worries man. 'twas just a fun idea
[23:11] <imbrandon> :)
[23:11] <cprofitt> yeah
[23:12] <cprofitt> though... we never tried Open Office in our school
[23:21] <cjohnston> Anyone around who has had to get a visa for the U.S. before when coming to UDS?
[23:25] <pangolin> I haven't ever, but what is the actual question?
[23:31] <cjohnston> pangolin: its uds specific
[23:32] <pangolin> right, but stating the question might be answered even if someone hasn't needed to get a VISA
[23:36] <cjohnston> its when to book.. so it wont be relevent to someone without a visa


[01:21] <georgeowell> upgraded to 16.04 and my fans seem to on a lot more
[01:22] <georgeowell> which is weird as I have a thinkpad T410
[07:01] <darkxst> georgeowell, is something running a muck and loading your CPU? if not file a kernel bug!


[15:53] <spoky99> I hall
[15:53] <spoky99> I had a problem with mythwelcome, they stop shutdown
[15:55] <spoky99> mythshutdown -s -v jobqueue show me "Has pending jobs" but there is not a job
[15:58] <spoky99> "mythshutdown --status;echo $?
[15:58] <spoky99> Has queued or pending jobs
[15:58] <spoky99> 32"
[16:10] <spoky99> this is the backend log
[16:10] <spoky99> http://pastebin.com/7AeqrRPF
[17:27] <spoky99> someone can help me?
[18:52] <spoky99> hi all
[18:53] <spoky99>  I had a problem with mythwelcome, it worked but from two week doesn't shutdown
[18:53] <spoky99> "mythshutdown --status;echo $?
[18:53] <spoky99>  Has queued or pending jobs
[18:53] <spoky99> 32"
[18:53] <spoky99> no upcoming recording and no one task, I really don't know what is the "pending jobs"
[18:53] <spoky99>  this is my mythbackend log
[18:53] <spoky99> http://pastebin.com/7AeqrRPF
[18:54] <spoky99>  visudo is full configured, all the command passed trought mythtv and mythwelcome are verified and " mythshutdown --shutdown" make shutdown the mediacenter without problem
[18:54] <spoky99> someone can help me understand wath goes wrong?
[23:42] <petri> hello
[23:44] <petri> anyone in here using an HDHomerun Prime?
[23:48] <SmallwoodDR82> yes
[23:50] <petri> any recommendations on how to get it working? the cablecard is working properly - I stream live tv in the HDHR client and in Kodi, but MythTV 0.28 isn't like it
[23:51] <petri> gives error: DTVMux: ParseTuningParams -- Unknown tuner type = 0x2000
[23:57] <SmallwoodDR82> https://docs.google.com/document/d/19knOlqz8cV5_8VQ1tCvEd8tjEk6U50KsSOJCROR60o4/edit#heading=h.yco0jatmc7xq
[23:57] <SmallwoodDR82> i followed this guide
[23:57] <SmallwoodDR82> step by step and it works perfect


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[07:01] <USRevoltNow> even moreso, now hate sharing so much that, in addition to reportedly executing all kindergarten teachers and students without trial and covering it up with CIA distributed mind control neurotoxins supplemented with psychic seeds implanted by Monsanto and containing viable germs for subconscious manipulation relating to the otherwise inexplicably popular concepts referenced by
[07:01] <USRevoltNow> the terms rapture and Left Behind, which, at least conceptually, may have been a historically effective, enduring, and relatively simple combination of two synergistic mechanisms, and which is hypothesized to work simply by intoxicating or destroying the insanity filter which would normally deflect irrational ideas and then injecting irrational ideas straight to the dome,where ,
[07:01] <USRevoltNow> Please help
[07:03] <USRevoltNow> This portion of the manifesto is about the gnostic-atheist philosphy that will damn us all.
[07:03] <USRevoltNow> Dan.
[07:04] <USRevoltNow> It just needs some scissoring.
[07:04] <USRevoltNow> You girls know how to scissor right?
[07:05] <USRevoltNow> Like two weeks ago I met two shemales in one day.
[07:05] <USRevoltNow> But then the  fascists banned me.
[07:05] <USRevoltNow> And I lost two shemales in one day.
[07:06] <USRevoltNow> What are the odds of that?
[07:06] <USRevoltNow> More importantly, how do I get a new one?
[07:26] <elky> charming.
[07:39] <AlanBell> above average use of grammar, capitals and punctuation though
[07:39] <AlanBell> and you have to admit the spelling is pretty good
[10:44] <elky> AlanBell, above average vocabulary too.


[19:34] <DigitalG> Looking to replace XP with Linux. Is there any documentation on how to lockdown features, permissions for Edubuntu?


[04:14] <jhon> HOLA
[07:29] <soee> good morning
[08:49] <kubotu> ::workspace-bugs:: [1080823] unable to remove new activity @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1080823 (by enb)
[08:49] <kubotu> ::workspace-bugs:: [1088091] Battery monitor widget does not show estimated battery lifetime @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1088091 (by xor)
[09:14]  * apachelogger needs to backport that localization patch he revised -.-
[09:16] <apachelogger> bug 923360 ftw
[09:38] <Tm_T> nice, on 4.9.90 some funny stuff happens
[09:38] <Tm_T> for example when waking up from screensaver, screenlocker doesn't stop screensaver
[09:38] <Tm_T> ...until I unlock, ofcourse
[09:42] <apachelogger> :S
[09:57] <apachelogger> ScottK: do we still care about bug 771661
[09:57]  * apachelogger does not want to discuss this :P
[09:59] <jalcine> bug 1088091 is fresh and one I'd love to see get fixed.
[09:59] <jalcine> Though it is an upstream one
[10:01] <jalcine> this comment however is interesting https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=182940#c4
[10:01] <jalcine> pertains to 1088091 in a way
[10:02] <soee> Tm_T, beta 2 in 13.04 or 12.10 ?
[10:32] <Tm_T> soee: 12.10
[10:52] <shadeslayer> jalcine: I really doubt that's going to happen
[10:53] <shadeslayer> battery time estimation is a can of works
[10:53] <shadeslayer> *worms
[10:53] <jalcine> do you have the time to explain to me how it might be?
[10:55] <shadeslayer> there's a huge email thread pertaining to it iirc
[10:57] <shadeslayer> Can't find said thread
[10:59] <jalcine> no problem, if you have an idea of the subject and the time it was sent, I'd look for it.
[11:00] <shadeslayer> well ... if I knew that I'd be able to find it myself :P
[11:00] <jalcine> hahaha true true!
[11:01] <Tm_T> jalcine: AFAIK battery widget can show estimation
[11:01] <shadeslayer> aha
[11:01] <shadeslayer> found it
[11:01] <shadeslayer> jalcine: http://markmail.org/message/i2dxtkxbwh2ojbzj
[11:01] <Tm_T> ...if you really want to look it jumping back and forth with random times
[11:03] <shadeslayer> yeah, there's a fork of the battery plasmoid just for that
[11:03] <shadeslayer> but like all other implementations, it is inaccurate
[11:03] <jalcine> it's a device-specific thing, I guess.
[11:03] <shadeslayer> work load changes over time and it might show one hour now, but become 5 minutes when you start compiling firefox
[11:04] <shadeslayer> so it's just unreliable and I agree with aseigo
[11:06] <Tm_T> you don't even need to compile anything, just open a browser tab for example
[11:08] <shadeslayer> awesome
[11:09]  * shadeslayer wonders when the store will ship his RAM
[11:11] <jalcine> interesting
[11:11] <jalcine> there has to be a way to calculate it though
[11:11] <jalcine> this might be me being babyish but how does Windows do it?
[11:11] <jalcine> or Macs? (well, that's a no-brainer, really?)
[11:12] <jalcine> The time remaining is completely relative to the amount of electricity currently being used.
[11:13]  * jalcine will think about this today.
[11:13] <jalcine> But I have to finish reading that _long_ thread
[11:29] <soee> Tm_T, did you noticed any other bugs i latest beta under 12.10 ?
[11:33] <Tm_T> well for example skype doesn't have systray icon, grouped windows indication arrow is pointing the wrong way on taskmanager (vertical panel) ...
[11:34] <Tm_T> small things mostly
[11:34] <Tm_T> new notifications are interesting
[11:38] <ScottK> apachelogger: I'm pretty sure I never cared.
[11:41] <soee> Tm_T, and what about modified oxygen theme ?
[11:42] <soee> are the changes visible ?
[11:44] <Riddell> hmm so how to find out the state of 4.10 beta 2?
[11:46] <apachelogger> ScottK: commented
[11:47] <ScottK> Riddell: I think the pad is reasonably current.
[11:47] <apachelogger> FWIW it would be almost straight forward if kdm did not currently explicitly unlink the file (i.e. delete the link and if it is the only link also remove the linked file)
[11:48] <Tm_T> soee: oxygen? I don't think I use it anywhere
[11:48] <soee> :)
[11:49] <Tm_T> icons, yes
[11:49] <Riddell> http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/update_excuses.html  mm lots of excuses
[11:50] <Riddell> ah the kde4libs block is still on
[11:52] <Riddell> nothing from marble people so I guess I'll add the abi changer
[11:52] <Riddell> ScottK: kdesdk abi breakage was fixed
[11:53] <apachelogger> note: deleting /dev/null breaks chrome :D
[11:55] <kubotu> ::workspace-bugs:: [771661] Allow .xsession-errors to be a symlink @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/771661 (by Martin Pitt)
[11:55] <apachelogger> note: chrome does a better job at handling debs than our default browser -.-
[11:56] <Riddell> what's it do?
[11:56] <apachelogger> open qapt-deb-installer
[11:56] <apachelogger> rekonq uses the ark kpart
[11:56] <jalcine> isnt the webkit view there a kwebkitpart?
[11:57] <jalcine> it probably changed accordingly
[11:57] <apachelogger> http://wstaw.org/m/2012/12/10/plasma-desktopNY1872.png
[11:57] <apachelogger> of course it acted correctly in the realm of a kpart
[11:57] <apachelogger> that does not make the result any more correct though :P
[11:58] <apachelogger> also that dialog there talks about konqueror ^^
[11:59] <apachelogger> ah well
[11:59] <apachelogger> rekonq does not actually care
[11:59] <apachelogger> it simply forces a kpart
[11:59] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: halp? :(
[11:59] <jalcine> lol
[11:59] <shadeslayer> sec
[12:00] <apachelogger> Riddell: someone should talk to oxygen-fonts upstream and establish a timeline for when we can use it
[12:00] <apachelogger> also for raring it can go in the archive, works well now
[12:00] <apachelogger> also it is like 300% easier on the eyes than ubuntu IMHO
[12:00] <shadeslayer> lol
[12:00] <apachelogger> not quite sure why
[12:00] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: boog
[12:00] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: yes, why? :P
[12:00] <shadeslayer> idk
[12:00] <apachelogger> you worked with that mimetype stuffz
[12:01] <shadeslayer> hmm
[12:01] <shadeslayer> needs investigations
[12:01] <apachelogger> makes more sense for you to look into a fix than me :P
[12:01] <shadeslayer> but my fixes get reverted
[12:01] <apachelogger> lol?
[12:01] <shadeslayer> yeah
[12:01] <shadeslayer> remember the apturl stuff
[12:01] <shadeslayer> that got removed or sth
[12:01] <shadeslayer> later
[12:01] <apachelogger> wasn't that implemented crappy?
[12:01] <apachelogger> or wasn't the base impl crap?
[12:01] <apachelogger> something was crap WRT protocol handling
[12:02] <shadeslayer> it was implemented incorrectly
[12:02] <shadeslayer> but I fixed it
[12:03] <apachelogger> and the fix was reverted?
[12:03] <apachelogger> lolz?
[12:03] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: please run sudo rm /dev/null
[12:03] <apachelogger> :P
[12:04] <apachelogger> "This worked correctly at least in KDE 3.5."
[12:05] <apachelogger> reading bugs is like going to a comedy show
[12:09] <Tm_T> apachelogger: 3.5 has suddenly become "the correct way" (:
[12:10] <apachelogger> let's ship some software from 3.5
[12:11] <apachelogger> oh right
[12:11] <apachelogger> bug 937726 needs an executive decision
[12:12] <apachelogger> when you have a desktop and manually switch to plasma-netbook ... should you get a kubuntu-netbook experience or a genuine KDE experience?
[12:13] <apachelogger> (currently the kubuntu-netbook stuff is only applied iff hardware requirements are met - small screen & no disc drive - which causes the behavior described in the bug)
[12:14] <Riddell> shrug, it would probably be nice to get kubuntu-netbook but I don't consider it a big issue not to
[12:15] <apachelogger> yes, still needs some decision
[12:16] <Riddell> I'm fine with the status quo
[12:17] <apachelogger> ScottK: got an opinion?
[12:20] <apachelogger> isn't bug 1061073 fixed?
[12:21] <apachelogger> oh, now it is opengles upstream Oo
[12:24] <Riddell> ah and marble has already bumped their soname
[12:26] <Riddell> bulldog98: when changing sonames just start with a fresh .symbols file otherwise it looks like any ABI changes are changed compared to old releases
[12:59] <Riddell> ScottK: plenty of new games packages in New queue should you be in the mood
[13:11]  * apachelogger hugs Riddell
[13:12] <Riddell> aww, lovely hugs
[13:13] <apachelogger> ^ in case someone wants to test
[13:14] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: my mail is still broken ^^
[13:14] <shadeslayer> yay
[13:14] <apachelogger> filed a ticket now
[13:14] <apachelogger> should only take a month or so ^^
[13:14] <shadeslayer> xD
[13:14] <shadeslayer> your @kubuntu.org email addy doesn't work as well right?
[13:14] <shadeslayer> btw
[13:15] <apachelogger> prolly not
[13:15] <shadeslayer> Riddell: there are some nice designs on G+ and spacetime has offered to print us a test batch of buisness cards
[13:15] <shadeslayer> we should totally send him a polo tee for being super nice to us :D
[13:16] <Riddell> alas we are all out of them
[13:16] <shadeslayer> yeah :(
[13:16] <shadeslayer> and drat
[13:16] <shadeslayer> someone is using my branch
[13:16] <shadeslayer> for recipes
[13:17]  * shadeslayer grumbles
[13:17] <Riddell> is that a bad thing?
[13:17] <shadeslayer> I can't delete my bzr branch :P
[13:17]  * apachelogger was about to ask the same question :P
[13:17] <shadeslayer> because someone else depends on it
[13:17] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: now that is silly
[13:18] <apachelogger> tell them to go away :P
[13:18] <shadeslayer> haha :P
[13:18] <apachelogger> actually you could just change ownership
[13:18] <shadeslayer> hm?
[13:18] <apachelogger> oh, then the url would be different ^^
[13:18] <shadeslayer> yep
[13:18] <apachelogger> clearly something is wrong there :P
[13:18] <shadeslayer> "You do not have permission make all the changes required to delete this Branch."
[13:19] <apachelogger> as I said, that is silly
[13:19] <shadeslayer> inorite
[13:19] <yofel_> why would you want to delete it o.O?
[13:19] <apachelogger> if I want to delete my branch then launchpad should not go all like "but people use it :("
[13:19] <shadeslayer> yofel_: want to setup a branch with the same name
[13:19] <yofel_> rename it?
[13:19] <shadeslayer> but different git url
[13:20] <shadeslayer> oh
[13:20] <shadeslayer> fun
[13:20] <apachelogger> http://images.yourdictionary.com/insane
[13:20] <apachelogger> <3 bugs
[13:20] <shadeslayer> haha
[13:21] <apachelogger> if they at least were not so random and old bug 578490
[13:24] <apachelogger> and the screensaver business... I have seen reports for "does not start", "starts too late", "starts despite deactivated"
[13:24] <shadeslayer> lol
[13:24]  * shadeslayer wonders why his RAM still hasn't been dispatched
[13:25] <Riddell> RAM, now there's a term much loved by schools but that doesn't make any sense
[13:27] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: perhaps brits are working at the place you ordered it at? :P I ordered my laptop from the uk and 1 week after it got delivered they sent me a mail "oh btw, we have dispatched yer machine" ^^
[13:28] <shadeslayer> lol
[13:30] <apachelogger> haha, lunchpad
[13:31] <apachelogger> so when you enter a binar package lunchpad will figure out the source
[13:31] <apachelogger> except if they are the same and the binary name is/was shipped by two sources
[13:31] <apachelogger> then it will simply take the source
[13:31] <apachelogger> UX fail <3
[13:35] <ScottK> apachelogger: I think it should be fixed, but I agree it's low priority.
[13:36] <apachelogger> yofel_: when running desktop and manually switching to netbook ... should it pick up the kubuntu netbook settings or not?
[13:36] <apachelogger> ScottK: truth be told the sanest way to do this is to move settigns from netbook to desktop
[13:36] <ScottK> Riddell: Not a lot of point in New'ing the KDE games, without the lib: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/knavalbattle/4:4.9.90-0ubuntu1/+build/4047217
[13:36] <apachelogger> in particular the init script for plasma-netbook
[13:36] <yofel_> unless you plan to completely remove the netbook settings, yes
[13:37] <ScottK> apachelogger: OK.
[13:37] <apachelogger> point being that netbook depends on desktop anyway, so we'd be fine there, but generally applying netbook settings on a desktop may be silly when assuming that they may contain settings only useful to netbooks
[13:37] <ScottK> Ah.  I see the lib is there too.
[13:38] <ScottK> I'll look at that first.
[13:38] <ScottK> apachelogger: The biggest issue is the javscripting of the panel.
[13:39] <apachelogger> how is that an issue?
[13:39] <apachelogger> the script is different for desktop and netbook
[13:39] <Riddell> ScottK: lib is in new too
[13:39] <apachelogger> so we have two scripts anyway
[13:39] <apachelogger> ScottK: how is bug 1086840 a k-s bug?
[13:39] <ScottK> Yeah.  Just noticed.
[13:39] <ScottK> apachelogger: It was a "I don't know where to put it" - probably kde4libs is better.  Feel free to reassign
[13:40] <apachelogger> ^^
[13:40] <apachelogger> kdelibs it is
[13:40] <apachelogger> ScottK: I'd file that upstream though
[13:42] <apachelogger> bug 1088479
[13:49] <BluesKaj> Hey all
[13:52] <apachelogger> yo
[13:52] <apachelogger> what do I do with bug 1085519 ?
[13:57] <BluesKaj> apachelogger, I don't use rekonq and I haven't seen any problems with FF so far on 4.10
[13:58] <apachelogger> firefox also does not use kcookiejar Oo
[13:58] <apachelogger> but good to know that firefox works ^^
[13:58] <BluesKaj> ok
[13:58] <kubotu> ::workspace-bugs:: [1081522] KDE System Settings "File Manager" association ignored by KDE apps @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1081522 (by Cefn)
[13:58] <BluesKaj> ok
[13:59] <BluesKaj> well rekonq in general doesn't work well for me , so I don't use it
[14:00] <apachelogger> I think you are not the only one
[14:00] <BluesKaj> dunno how other ppl can put up with all it's bugs
[14:01] <Riddell> dantti_laptop: is your networkmanager patch request getting sorted?
[14:02] <apachelogger> BluesKaj: they report it in hopes that they get fixed :P
[14:02] <apachelogger> s/it/them/
[14:02] <kubotu> apachelogger meant: "BluesKaj: they report them in hopes that they get fixed :P"
[14:04] <BluesKaj> well apachelogger , I wish then a lotta luck , cuz they need it
[14:04] <BluesKaj> then=them
[14:06] <ScottK> apachelogger: The networkmanager thing got fixed in raring, but AIUI, still waiting on cyphermox for the SRU (needs to be combined with the existing SRU in the queue).
[14:06] <dantti_laptop> Riddell: I think yes, ScottK asked cyphermox to do it, I still need a second confirmation that it is actually working... but it seems so
[14:07] <apachelogger> ScottK: which one?
[14:07] <cyphermox> ScottK: actually I was told the bug wasn't properly fixed
[14:07] <ScottK> cyphermox: OK.
[14:07] <apachelogger> ah, Riddell asked that ^^
[14:07] <ScottK> What's the bug?
[14:07] <BluesKaj> rekonq and kmail , both are buggy , but most reports are filed as dupes and seem to be put on the back burner ...kmail been showing the same segfault bugs for over a yr
[14:08] <ScottK> dantti_laptop: Could you please look at the bug and make sure it has all the information in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/StableReleaseUpdates#SRU_Bug_Template
[14:08] <cyphermox> dantti_laptop: so it is working?
[14:08] <apachelogger> BluesKaj: often enough proper fixes require a lot of ground work first
[14:09] <ScottK> BluesKaj: I use kmail on a daily basis with very, very few segfaults.  Most of the issues I have are with akonadi getting stuck and restarting it fixes it.
[14:09] <apachelogger> my imap agent segfaults because it cannot auth and I refuse to let it try again
[14:09] <apachelogger> most ludicrous thing :D
[14:10] <BluesKaj> ScottK, yeah , they should dump akonadi for home users ..we should have that option
[14:11] <ScottK> It's gotten better each release.
[14:11] <dantti_laptop> cyphermox: I need to wait for my co worker to arive and test it again, since last week his vpn account got blocked due to many tests :P
[14:11] <ScottK> The bug that was annoying me the most recently was fixed in 4.9.3.
[14:11] <apachelogger> BluesKaj: what do we use instead?
[14:11] <dantti_laptop> ScottK: I'll do
[14:11] <ScottK> dantti_laptop: Thanks.
[14:13] <ScottK> Riddell: Am I going to find that all these games are in section libs too?
[14:13] <Riddell> mm let me see
[14:13] <Riddell> ScottK: mm yes you might just find that
[14:14] <Riddell> I do dislike that pointless field
[14:14] <apachelogger> +
[14:14] <Riddell> ScottK: hang on, will fix
[14:14] <ScottK> I'm doing the actual lib first anyway.
[14:14] <Quintasan> o/
[14:15]  * apachelogger is pissed off with bugs again and does some movie watching
[14:16] <Quintasan> Riddell: Got anywhere near maliit>
[14:16] <Quintasan> ?
[14:16] <dantti_laptop> ScottK: I can't explain how to create a test case, since he uses cisco vpn with an android app that create randon password tokens...
[14:17] <Quintasan> ScottK: I'd appreciate it if you reviewed maliit-framework -> dget -xu http://people.ubuntu.com/~quintasan/uploads/maliit-framework_0.93.0-0ubuntu1.dsc
[14:18] <Quintasan> Riddell: ^ link if you lost it or something :)
[14:18] <ScottK> Since this requires a specific type of VPN to test, say that you need to need to have access to that kind of VPN and then assume people know that stuff to test.
[14:23] <dantti_laptop> ScottK: ok, do I need to fill some bug?
[14:23] <ScottK> dantti_laptop: If there isn't one already.
[14:24] <dantti_laptop> k, let me look
[14:27] <ScottK> Riddell: re libkdegames copyright: missing copyright info for carddecks/svg-tigullio-international/tigullio-international.svgz.  cmake/modules/ is missing it's license file (also not covered in debian/copyright).  I think that makes it a reject.
[14:28] <ScottK> Riddell: Why does libkdegames6 Breaks: libkdegames5a?
[14:29] <ScottK> Riddell: You can drop the kdegames-card-data-extra Breaks/Replaces since those are pre-LTS versions.
[14:31] <ScottK> Riddell: Other than that, I think it's good.
[14:39] <BluesKaj> I'm testing the 3.7 kernel on 12.1.0 as suggested by using nomodeset in place of quiet splash , but the boot still freezes completely at the hardware scan ...any other suggestions ?
[14:40] <BluesKaj> on the 3.5 kernel atm
[14:45] <ScottK> BluesKaj: This is still not the channel for kernel issues.
[14:46] <BluesKaj> ScottK, ok , look at it as a warning or a heads up then
[14:48] <dantti_laptop> ScottK: I think maybe https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/plasma-widget-networkmanagement/+bug/415076 since someone says that on gnome it works..
[14:48] <ScottK> Releasing 4.9.3 to quantal-updates.
[14:49] <ScottK> dantti_laptop: OK.  Then please edit the bug to add the SRU template information.
[14:53] <dantti_laptop> ScottK: hmm to do that I just need to add a comment to that bug in that template [Impact] *foo, bar [Test Case] * do foo ? like that?
[14:53] <ScottK> It's better to edit the bug itself
[14:54] <dantti_laptop> hmm but I'm no maintainer I guess I can't
[14:55] <ScottK> You should be able it.  If you can't, a comment is OK.
[14:57] <dantti_laptop> hmm tho that bug is for a openVPN not vpnc connection :/
[14:57] <ScottK> Then I guess that's not it ...
[14:58] <dantti_laptop> maybe it fix this for openvpn too, but would need testing..
[14:59] <ScottK> Yeah, but let's focus on what we have someone to test.
[15:04] <dantti_laptop> ScottK: better a new bug then? all I find are old bugs that I can't be sure it's the same issue
[15:06] <ScottK> Agreed.
[15:27] <shadeslayer> rbelem: any status update on PA3?
[15:30] <rbelem> shadeslayer: i could not work on it last weekend, but i will do it today without failured
[15:30] <shadeslayer> rbelem: well ... could you point me to what you've done? I can work on it a bit as well
[15:32] <rbelem> shadeslayer: i've not done so much yet, if you start now you will have better progress than mine
[15:32] <shadeslayer> I see
[15:33] <shadeslayer> rbelem: okay, I'll start on it then :)
[15:33] <ScottK> shadeslayer: Can we fix the PA stuff in quantal?
[15:33] <rbelem> shadeslayer: sorry for block you
[15:33] <shadeslayer> ScottK: Blueprint says we want to backport it to Quantal
[15:34] <ScottK> I mean the existing stuff that's broken.
[15:34] <shadeslayer> if that's what you meant
[15:34] <shadeslayer> oh
[15:34] <shadeslayer> was it just the meta package bits?
[15:34] <ScottK> Some patches went missing, IIRC.
[15:34] <shadeslayer> I see
[15:35] <ScottK> afiestas: Any word on kamoso with the new libs?  Kphotoalbum got fixed, so kamoso is the only user of the old libs left.
[15:35] <shadeslayer> okay
[15:45] <ScottK> Riddell: The actual lib for kdegames should be in section libs.
[15:46] <ScottK> The rest is good.  Accepted.
[15:53] <Riddell> ScottK: addition to your ubiquity change https://code.launchpad.net/~jr/ubiquity/encryptcheckbox_fix
[15:53] <Riddell> xnox: ^^
[15:54] <Riddell> ScottK: section fixed in bzr
[15:54] <ScottK> Riddell: Cool.  Thanks.
[15:54] <ScottK> Now xnox can have it.
[15:55] <Quintasan> shadeslayer: we are talking about the same patches we did talk about at UDS
[15:55] <shadeslayer> ah okay
[15:55] <shadeslayer> the ones that didn't apply cleanly?
[15:55] <shadeslayer> s/didn't//
[15:55] <kubotu> shadeslayer meant: "the ones that  apply cleanly?"
[15:55] <shadeslayer> and were said to be upstreamed
[15:56] <ScottK> Riddell: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libkdegames/4:4.9.90-0ubuntu1/+build/4053081
[15:56] <Quintasan> Those that apparently went upstream but did not
[15:56] <shadeslayer> right
[15:56] <Quintasan> Yeah, and but I belive we'd be better off backporting PA3 to quantal
[15:57] <Quintasan> ScottK: any opinion on backporting ?
[15:57] <Riddell> ScottK: oh grr, my fail
[15:57] <ScottK> I'm in favor of first fixing the stuff we screwed up in quantal.
[15:58] <Quintasan> ScottK: I believe that fixing pa2 in quanta won't make it less broken than if we uploaded pa3
[15:59] <ScottK> You mean the thing that's not even packaged yet?
[15:59] <Riddell> I'd also be in favour of PA3 in raring first then backporting it
[16:00] <Quintasan> ScottK: dunno why anyone says pa3 is not packaged, if we have pa2 in archive then we must have a packaging base that should be reusable
[16:00] <ScottK> For PA2, isn't it just a matter of reapplying the patches that got dropped?
[16:01] <Quintasan> ScottK: I'm wondering if pa2 even got QA done properly if we shipped a package without relevant patches applied
[16:02] <ScottK> True, but I think fixing PA2 is SRU suitable.  Upgrading to PA3 is not.
[16:03] <Quintasan> ScottK: nor I nor upstream will guarantee it will work even remotely as intended even after we fix the patch magic inside I believe
[16:03] <ScottK> Let's try it and see.
[16:04] <Quintasan> Riddell: any objections?
[16:05] <Riddell> Quintasan: to what?
[16:06] <soee> updating quantal to 4.10 beta2
[16:06] <soee> error while processing:
[16:06] <soee> /var/cache/apt/archives/kde-l10n-pl_4%3a4.9.90-0ubuntu1~ubuntu12.10~ppa1_all.deb
[16:07] <Quintasan> Riddell: Updating pa package in quantal vs fixing the pa2 there
[16:08] <Riddell> Quintasan: as I say my approach would be to package active 3 for raring and backport since I don't think there's much point in fixing something that upstream consider obsolete
[16:08] <Riddell> but whoever does the work gets to decide, either way is useful
[16:09] <Riddell> soee: you need to say what the error is, pastebin if necessary
[16:09] <Quintasan> I am of that opinion as well
[16:09] <Quintasan> ScottK: mind if we do it that way?
[16:09] <Quintasan> ScottK: if PA3 does not deliver we'll just fix PA2 package
[16:10] <ScottK> Quintasan: How will this get delivered to users in quantal?  We can't put it in raring-proposed/updates.
[16:13] <Quintasan> ScottK: I am not sure what you mean, we can update PA package in raring till the end of cycle
[16:13] <Quintasan> you want to know how quantal->raring upgrade will look like?
[16:13] <ScottK> s/raring/quantal/
[16:13] <kubotu> ScottK meant: "Quintasan: How will this get delivered to users in quantal?  We can't put it in quantal-proposed/updates."
[16:13] <Quintasan> oh
[16:14] <Quintasan> ScottK: We can't put that there because of what reason?
[16:14] <ScottK> Because it's not a bug fix.
[16:14] <shadeslayer> ^
[16:14] <shadeslayer> Quintasan: what needs to be done is a 2 pronged approach
[16:14] <ScottK> Same reason we don't put 4.10 in quantal updates either.
[16:14] <shadeslayer> package PA3 for -backports and fix PA2 for SRU
[16:15] <ScottK> Yes.  Please.
[16:15] <afiestas> ScottK: it is in my todo still :/
[16:15] <Quintasan> shadeslayer: quantal-backports you mean?
[16:15] <Quintasan> or what
[16:15] <ScottK> afiestas: OK.  Thanks.
[16:15] <Quintasan> since I'm getting lost in -backports stuff right now
[16:16] <shadeslayer> Quintasan: q-b yes
[16:16] <Quintasan> I can agree to that
[16:16] <Quintasan> But I would like to see that mentioned on our webpage
[16:18] <Quintasan> not necessarily an announcement but I'd like to have the word out
[16:19] <Quintasan> "Hey people Plasma Active in quantal is a little bit out of date so please enable quantal-backports if you would like to use the newest version" or something like that
[16:20] <yofel_> Isn't that more of a pin question these days?
[16:20] <Quintasan> shadeslayer: got anywhere with the pa3 package?
[16:20] <shadeslayer> Quintasan: I haven't even started
[16:20] <shadeslayer> working on some other stuff
[16:20] <shadeslayer> took over from rbelem a couple of hours ago
[16:20] <Quintasan> I'm not sure why not bring the existing one up to date
[16:21] <Quintasan> Most of preliminary work was done there
[16:21] <Quintasan> Any particular reason for doing it from scratch?
[16:22] <shadeslayer> I am not going to do it from scratch
[16:22] <shadeslayer> :)
[16:22] <shadeslayer> although the plasma keyboard container needs to be dropped
[16:22] <shadeslayer> because PA3 is supposed to use Maliit
[16:22] <shadeslayer> Quintasan: ^ So get Maliit uploaded
[16:22] <Quintasan> ScottK: I'd appreciate if you review maliit at some point before I go to Debian folks with anything
[16:23] <ScottK> OK.
[16:23] <Quintasan> shadeslayer: as you can see I'm waiting for a review :p
[16:23] <shadeslayer> :P
[16:23] <ScottK> What version of KDE does mailit need?
[16:24] <Quintasan> It doesn't need KDE
[16:24] <Quintasan> It needs Qt 4
[16:25] <Quintasan> Plasma Active needs maliit
[16:29] <ScottK> Ah.
[16:33] <soee> Riddell, the language packade is ok, i did dist-upgrade again and that one worked also
[16:34] <ScottK> Riddell: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libkdegames/4:4.9.90-0ubuntu2/+build/4053108
[16:36] <Riddell> ScottK: doh!
[16:38] <soee> is it possible to use this reworked oxygen them in beta2 ?
[16:38] <shadeslayer> soee: ?
[16:39] <soee> shadeslayer, http://www.notmart.org/images/desktop-air-410.png
[16:40] <shadeslayer> that will land in RC1 I guess
[16:40] <soee> ah so we have to wait till christmass :<
[16:40] <shadeslayer> We don't want additional patches unless they're very critical
[16:40] <shadeslayer> and new themes aren't critical
[16:40] <shadeslayer> soee: well
[16:40] <shadeslayer> *hint* neon *hint*
[16:47] <ScottK> Riddell: Also your section change wasn't actually in ubuntu2.
[16:47] <ScottK> Or rather not for source
[16:49] <ScottK> Fun.  https://launchpadlibrarian.net/125352745/buildlog_ubuntu-raring-amd64.libkdegames_4%3A4.9.90-0ubuntu3_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz
[16:51] <Riddell> ScottK: I think this package has it in for me
[16:52] <shadeslayer> xD
[17:05] <Riddell> ScottK: fancy acking this backport? bug 1088534
[17:16] <ScottK> Riddell: Done
[17:17] <jalcine> What does acking mean?
[17:20] <ScottK> It's short of Acknowledge, but it generally means approval in an Ubuntu context.
[17:21] <Darkwing> Hey guys
[17:25] <ScottK> s/of/for/
[17:25] <kubotu> ScottK meant: "It's short for Acknowledge, but it generally means approval in an Ubuntu context."
[17:33] <jalcine> interesting!
[17:33] <jalcine> TIL about acking
[17:34] <Quintasan> jussi: What distro do you use on you imx53s?
[17:36] <ScottK> Riddell: More libkdegames fun.
[17:36] <ScottK> Quintasan: I have mx51's running Ubuntu, but with a vendor kernel.
[17:36] <Quintasan> ScottK: vendor kernel being?
[17:36] <ScottK> In my case from Genesi.
[17:37] <Quintasan> ScottK: TBH I don't want to install the desktop image just to remove crapton of packages from it
[17:37] <ScottK> It is painful, but that's what I did.
[17:38] <micahg> are there no netboots for arm*?
[17:38] <Quintasan> ScottK: precise?
[17:39] <Quintasan> ScottK: I don't have a vga cable to plug in my monitor besides, did you just swap the kernel and it worked?
[17:39] <ScottK> No, I had an image that included their kernel to start with.
[17:40] <Quintasan> You upgraded the install or what?
[17:40] <Quintasan> Freescale gives you lucid images
[17:40] <Quintasan> I can't imagine that will upgrade smoothly
[17:42] <ScottK> Not Freescale, Genesi.
[17:45] <Quintasan> I wonder if that image will work
[17:46] <ScottK> It's very hardware specific.  If you don't have a Genesi smarttop/book it probably doesn't.
[17:47] <afiestas> suspend the laptop with the installer frozen
[17:47] <afiestas> what logs should I give to you?
[17:47] <Quintasan> ScottK: *shrug* I'll give it a go
[17:49] <afiestas> http://paste.kde.org/623306 installer/debug:
[17:50] <afiestas> http://paste.kde.org/623312 installer/dm
[17:50] <afiestas> I don't need the laptop until probably tomorrow
[17:50] <ScottK> xnox: ^^^ help!!!
[17:50] <afiestas> so hurry up if you want any log ior mne doing any debug
[17:50] <afiestas> xnox: !
[17:50] <shadeslayer> the debug output looks similar to what I had reported
[17:51] <shadeslayer> afiestas: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/1085991
[17:51] <shadeslayer> second comment
[17:52] <xnox> shadeslayer: ScottK: shadeslayer: there have been multiple reports recently of "hanging installs". One think you can try is:
[17:52] <afiestas> shadeslayer: that might be it, since I have windows 8 installed on that laptop
[17:53] <shadeslayer> boooo. hissss.
[17:53] <xnox> $ sudo chmod -x /lib/partman/automatically_partition/*5*/choices
[17:53] <xnox> when ubiquity comes up, but before clicking next on the prepare step.
[17:53] <xnox> and please tell me if that fixes for you.
[17:54] <shadeslayer> afiestas: ^ since you probably are the one who can test this the quickest
[17:54] <xnox> I have managed to kind of reproduce it with a fat partition, but ntfs might be also a trigger for this bug.
[17:56] <afiestas> xnox: if I kill ubiquity and startit again, will it work?
[17:56] <afiestas> or should I do a clean start?
[17:57] <xnox> afiestas: if you already had a hang, killing ubiquity will not help.
[17:57] <xnox> afiestas: just reboot.
[17:57] <afiestas> ookz
[17:57] <afiestas> restarting then
[18:00] <afiestas> xnox: worked
[18:01] <xnox> afiestas: now, tell me a lot of how you booted and how many disks you had attached to your system.
[18:01] <xnox> afiestas: did you boot from USB or CD?
[18:01] <afiestas> oks
[18:01] <afiestas> I booted from USB
[18:01] <afiestas> dd if of the image
[18:01] <xnox> afiestas: how many hard-drives do you have?
[18:01] <afiestas> I had windows 8 installed, using the whole harddisk (it is a laptop, only have 1)
[18:02] <xnox> afiestas: that's it?
[18:02] <afiestas> the machien is a dell XPS1330 the ones that shipped with Ubuntu years ago
[18:02] <xnox> afiestas: ok. thanks a lot.
[18:02] <afiestas> yes
[18:04] <afiestas> xnox: if you need another test, I can give it a try next week
[18:04] <afiestas> I mean, I don't mind reinstalling windows8 and trying to install Kubuntu again,  I use this machine mostly for that
[18:04] <xnox> afiestas: and windows8 is that ntfs or fat or something else?
[18:04] <xnox> afiestas: just one partition or many?
[18:04] <afiestas> one, ntfs I guess
[18:05]  * xnox ponders if we are bitten by hybrid-hybernate here.
[18:05]  * xnox bah, we should just skip ntfs/fat as those are invalid filesystems for reuse/replace anyway =)
[18:06] <afiestas> xD
[18:09] <afiestas> xnox: resized it
[18:09] <afiestas> the ntfs I mean, just for the sake of seeing what happens
[18:09] <afiestas> xd
[18:13] <afiestas> xnox: worked well, windows8 boots, ntfs resized etc
[18:15] <afiestas> mmmm
[18:15] <afiestas> the encryoption of my home directory didn't worked as I expected
[18:15] <afiestas> after installing it, a bulb appeared in the systray
[18:15] <afiestas> clicked on it, asked me to "run this action"
[18:16] <afiestas> a terminal opened asking me for a passphrase, introduced one (I think I did a typo)
[18:16] <afiestas> but couldn't check because there is no passphrase verification
[18:16]  * xnox is not kubuntu dev =))))) i only deal with before/during/after partitioning page =)))))
[18:17] <xnox> ScottK: Riddell: ^^^^ see above, how is encryption UI suppose to look on kubuntu?
[18:18] <ScottK> "like Ubuntu"
[18:22] <afiestas> nothign is happening
[18:22] <Riddell> xnox: which one?  the ecrypted home folder is just an option you select on the user setup page
[18:22] <afiestas> the terminal is open, noi special process encrypting anything
[18:23] <afiestas> the "run action" dialog is still there
[18:23] <ScottK> Riddell: Is libkdegamesprivate used directly by KDE games or just by libkdegames?
[18:23] <xnox> ScottK: Riddell: well, with encryptfs you should have the "first login" action to store decrypted key for encryption.
[18:24] <ScottK> We have that with encrypted home, so I know it's there somewhere.
[18:25] <dantti_laptop> ScottK: cyphermox: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/plasma-widget-networkmanagement/+bug/1088588
[18:25] <dantti_laptop> do I need to add some extra tag?
[18:25] <dantti_laptop> sorry never did this SRU thing...
[18:25] <Riddell> ScottK: "apt-cache rdepends libkdegamesprivate1" used by a bunch of games
[18:25] <ScottK> Riddell: Thanks.
[18:26] <afiestas> http://wstaw.org/w/1xhU
[18:26] <ScottK> The binaries look good then.  Just need symbols fixed for armhf/powerpc.
[18:27] <ScottK> dantti_laptop: Thanks.  I think I did all the stuff it needs.
[18:27] <afiestas> below "Passphrase" was a hash, erased it using krita just in case
[18:27] <afiestas> the [[B is me doing scroll up scrolldown with the mouse
[18:27] <dantti_laptop> ScottK: ok, thanks :)
[19:00] <cyphermox> dantti_laptop: ok so it did fix the issues, thanks
[19:01] <cyphermox> I'll get to it shortly
[19:01] <dantti_laptop> cyphermox: well our initial tests showed yes, but the guy won't come today it seems to do a second (fresh reboot) test
[19:03] <cyphermox> should be easy enough to try on a live cd; I'll see about doing that as I prepare the SRU
[19:03] <cyphermox> fortunately, I'm crazy enough to have a vpnc vpn at home :)
[19:26] <shadeslayer> :(
[19:26] <shadeslayer> Riddell: https://lwn.net/Articles/528351/
[19:39] <shadeslayer> ahh
[19:39] <shadeslayer> Quintasan: ftp://ftp.kde.org/pub/kde/stable/active/3.0/src/patches/
[19:39] <shadeslayer> so basically it's a patchset from PA people
[19:40] <shadeslayer> it doesn't help that they name the plasma mobile package plasma-mobile-0.4
[19:40] <shadeslayer> but call the release 3
[19:40] <shadeslayer> Riddell: ScottK should we follow upstream source versionining or upstream release versioning?
[19:41] <shadeslayer> uh ... by which I mean, should we use plasma-mobile 0.4 or plasma-mobile 3?
[19:41] <shadeslayer> later would require use of epoch's I guess
[19:47] <soee> lol just noticed new window maximise effect :) nice one
[19:52] <shadeslayer> gosh, very hungry
[19:55] <soee> eat some cookies
[19:55] <soee> om niom niom
[19:55] <shadeslayer> no cookies
[19:55] <shadeslayer> ScottK: https://launchpad.net/~rohangarg/+archive/experimental/+files/hupnp_1.0.0-0ubuntu1~ppa2.dsc
[19:55] <shadeslayer> plz2upload
[20:11]  * shadeslayer goes off to find something to eat
[20:20] <soee> how can i remove old entries from krunner ?
[20:21] <Riddell> --> #kde
[20:29] <shadeslayer> apparently today was slightly burnt toast, cheese and chilly sauce night
[20:30] <Riddell> no, it's barley, lentil and carrot night
[20:33] <TheLordOfTime> hiya to Kubuntu Developers.  Got a question RE: Kubuntu bugs.  If a bug is Kubuntu-specific for, say, the firefox package, should the bug be filed against the package in question and in comments marked as Kubuntu only, or is ther a specific package you want it filed against?
[20:33] <Riddell> TheLordOfTime: if it's a bug in the firefox package then file it against that
[20:34] <TheLordOfTime> Riddell, and then comment its only reproduceable within Kubuntu?
[20:34] <TheLordOfTime> because the same bug is non-reproduceable within Unity/Ubuntu
[20:34] <shadeslayer> also depends on which ff you're using, are you using the one with KDE integration patches?
[20:34] <shadeslayer> if so, then said bug might be invalid against the archive package
[20:35] <TheLordOfTime> should probably grab the bug
[20:35]  * TheLordOfTime searches the scrollbacks and history for the specific bug
[20:35] <TheLordOfTime> https://bugs.launchpad.net/linuxmint/+bug/1036252
[20:35] <TheLordOfTime> its a "Mint" bug per se
[20:35] <TheLordOfTime> which made me want to invalid iti ifast.
[20:35] <TheLordOfTime> BUT.
[20:36] <shadeslayer> uh
[20:36] <TheLordOfTime> it was reported later that it happened in Kubuntu
[20:36] <TheLordOfTime> this one said Kubuntu: https://bugs.launchpad.net/linuxmint/+bug/1036252/comments/1
[20:36] <shadeslayer> Mint people have a fun way of making things
[20:36] <TheLordOfTime> i said unless it was confirmed i'd treat it as a Minut bug (Invalid for Ubuntu)
[20:36] <shadeslayer> which I don't want to publically disclose, but let's see
[20:37]  * shadeslayer tests on raring
[20:39] <shadeslayer> hah
[20:39] <shadeslayer> TheLordOfTime: ** (firefox:32220): WARNING **: Cannot launch default application: No application is registered as handling this file
[20:39] <shadeslayer> it's an upstream bug
[20:39] <shadeslayer> presumably you won't be able to reproduce this with the package that has KDE Integration
[20:40] <shadeslayer> TheLordOfTime: would you be able to test by installing packages from https://launchpad.net/~blue-shell/+archive/firefox-kde
[20:40] <TheLordOfTime> shadeslayer, i wouldn't, i'm just bugcontrol and I don't have KDE active at the moment
[20:40] <TheLordOfTime> that... and my ext4 partitions are fubar
[20:40] <shadeslayer> ah okay
[20:41] <TheLordOfTime> any testing I do of anything is server packages.
[20:41] <shadeslayer> anyone else running FF from the blue shell PPA ?
[20:43] <soee> blue shell?
[20:44] <shadeslayer> soee: https://launchpad.net/~blue-shell/+archive/firefox-kde
[20:44] <TheLordOfTime> shadeslayer, if its not found in KDE's firefox (i assume its a variant of the archive version?) lemme know, i'll stab the bug.
[20:44]  * TheLordOfTime hates mint packages.
[20:44] <shadeslayer> yeah, gimme a couple of minutes
[20:44] <TheLordOfTime> s/packages//
[20:44] <kubotu> TheLordOfTime meant: "hates mint ."
[20:44] <shadeslayer> TheLordOfTime: their packages make me want to bleed my eyes out
[20:45] <TheLordOfTime> shadeslayer, the number of people who file mint bugs against Ubuntu makes me want to (yes, this isn't very CoC-compliant, but i'm quite tired of it) open up /dev/null (aka Hell) and dump mint users into there.
[20:45] <shadeslayer> *nod*
[20:45] <TheLordOfTime> i see FAR too many mint users hoping for Ubuntu to fix things.
[20:46] <TheLordOfTime> ("Ubuntu" being the generic term for the Ubuntu-and-official-variant-archives)
[20:46] <TheLordOfTime> and then there's them looking for help in #ubuntu, but that's a rant for another day.
[20:46] <shadeslayer> hah
[20:46] <shadeslayer> TheLordOfTime: works perfectly in the patched version
[20:47] <micahg> TheLordOfTime: mint bugs that are genuine bugs in the Ubuntu packages are valid, mint bugs caused by mint tweaks are not
[20:48] <TheLordOfTime> micahg, then for a case-in-point, there's a bug filed against Ubiquity that's only referenced in Mint.  is that correctly Invalid?
[20:48] <xnox> TheLordOfTime: bug number or it's all hypothetical.
[20:48] <TheLordOfTime> micahg, i think we should add into triage guide or bug guides then what to do if a non=Ubuntu bug is filed (i.e. Mint)
[20:48]  * TheLordOfTime seeks it in -bugs
[20:48] <xnox> TheLordOfTime: depends on the bug.....
[20:49]  * xnox doesn't see any.
[20:49] <TheLordOfTime> i have it somewhere, i commented on it so it'll show in my bugs.
[20:49]  * TheLordOfTime opens LP
[20:49] <TheLordOfTime> ... geez, too many bug windows open o.O
[20:49]  * TheLordOfTime has 20 tabs open for just bugs.
[20:50] <TheLordOfTime> ah, sorry, this one's a Backtrack bug
[20:50] <micahg> TheLordOfTime: same rules of triage apply I would think, if it's not a bug -> question, if it's a bug that only exists in a third party archive, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/Responses#Packages_not_provided_by_Ubuntu
[20:50] <TheLordOfTime> but it falls under the "non supported" side of derivatives, so...
[20:50] <TheLordOfTime> xnox, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/1086675
[20:50] <micahg> this seems very OT for this channel though
[20:51] <TheLordOfTime> micahg, you brought it up, i'll move to -bugs though :p
[20:51] <micahg> TheLordOfTime: [14:45] <TheLordOfTime> shadeslayer, the number of people who file mint bugs against Ubuntu makes me want to (yes, this isn't very CoC-compliant, but i'm quite tired of it) open up /dev/null (aka Hell) and dump mint users into there.
[20:51]  * micahg did not bring it up :)
[20:51] <shadeslayer> heh
[20:52] <TheLordOfTime> ...
[20:52] <shadeslayer> it's OT, but it's still about development, so I don't think it should be an issue
[20:52] <shadeslayer> oh heh, I'm not in #ubuntu-bugs
[20:52] <shadeslayer> how odd
[21:01] <ScottK> shadeslayer: Why does libhupnp1 Breaks/Replaces libhupnp0?
[21:02] <shadeslayer> because we don't want people who upgrade to have libhupnp0 installed on their system?
[21:02] <shadeslayer> oh, wait, could probably use something else for that
[21:04]  * ScottK fixes libkdegames.
[21:05] <ScottK> shadeslayer: Yes.  libs should be co-installable for transition/upgrades.
[21:06] <shadeslayer> I see
[21:06] <shadeslayer> but there isn't a libhupnp0 anymore
[21:06] <shadeslayer> so shouldn't we tell dpkg to remove it
[21:06] <shadeslayer> even though it's coinstallable
[21:06] <ScottK> No.
[21:06] <ScottK> It'll get cleaned up once nothing depends on it.
[21:06] <shadeslayer> ah okay
[21:07] <shadeslayer> so basically we can drop that breaks/replaces
[21:09] <ScottK> Yes.
[21:09] <ScottK> I'll fix it.
[21:09] <shadeslayer> thx
[21:10] <kubotu> ::workspace-bugs:: [1061073] Desktop effects are slow and desktop corruption using mesa 9 @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1061073 (by Stefan Freyr)
[21:20] <ScottK> Riddell: Are we ready to let 4.9.90 (less games) go into raring?  I was thinking to maybe replace the block on kde4libs migration with one on libkdegames until we have games all sorted.
[21:22] <Riddell> ScottK: yes I think that's a good plan
[21:25] <ScottK> Riddell: Done.
[21:25] <ScottK> shadeslayer: hupnp done.
[21:25] <ScottK> Also, fixed libkdegames uploaded.
[21:29] <shadeslayer> thanks!
[21:31] <ScottK> Maybe you can get Riddell to New it once it builds.
[21:31] <ScottK> Then you get to start rebuliding rdepends.
[21:41] <shadeslayer> ScottK: http://paste.kde.org/623390/
[21:41] <shadeslayer> :P
[21:42] <xnox> please help verify bug 1055967 using precise daily
[21:42] <ScottK> shadeslayer: Try reverse-depends -b libhupnp-dev
[21:43] <shadeslayer> digikam
[21:44] <shadeslayer> will upload that to rebuild once Riddell accepts libhupnp1 from New
[21:44] <Riddell> what what?
[21:44] <shadeslayer> Riddell: libhupnp1 probably landed in New
[21:45] <shadeslayer> please accept :)
[21:45] <ScottK> It did and it's all built
[21:45] <ScottK> Got libkdegames to build on all archs too.
[21:45] <shadeslayer> yay
[21:45] <Riddell> let me see what excuse I can find to reject it
[21:45] <shadeslayer> hah :D
[21:45] <Riddell> well done ScottK!
[21:45]  * shadeslayer goes back to porting pgst
[21:46] <ScottK> It was just a bit of symbolshelper magic needed.
[21:46] <Riddell> "  It integrates into Qt-based
[21:46] <Riddell>   software smoothly and enables truly rapid UPnP development.
[21:46] <Riddell> "
[21:47] <Riddell> surely bad word wrap is an excuse for rejection?
[21:47] <shadeslayer> 0.o
[21:47] <soee> how can i clear icons cache ?
[21:48] <Riddell> "  - Server side SOAP is not supported. - References to values (id &
[21:48] <Riddell>   href attributes) are not supported. - Only arrays with less than 5
[21:48] <Riddell>   dimensions are supported. - Namespaces for types are not checked.
[21:48] <Riddell> "
[21:48] <Riddell> now that's just attrocious formatting
[21:48] <shadeslayer> okay, that I agree
[21:48] <shadeslayer> just carried over from old packaging
[21:49] <shadeslayer> I think we can drop that from description
[21:49] <yofel_> soee: -> #kubuntu usually, but it's somewhere in /var/tmp/kdecache-*
[21:50] <Riddell> shadeslayer: ok I'll accept it this time, but next time that word wrap setting needs sorted or its curtains for the little binaries
[21:50] <shadeslayer> lol
[21:50]  * Riddell it putting on a tough act tonight
[21:51] <shadeslayer> if there's a Scottish mafia Riddell would fit right in
[21:52] <Moxon> Heya!  I switched to raring ringtail and have problems with gnome applications: they freeze at random points (tested with gnucash, gramps, gnome-control-center).  is this a known issue?
[21:52] <Moxon> I tried to run gnucash as root and it works without any freezing.
[21:52] <Moxon> and is this the right channel to ask?
[21:53] <shadeslayer> *cough* root *cough*
[21:53] <soee> ok got it, had to logout
[21:53] <Riddell> I am honored and grateful that you have invited me to your home on the wedding day of your daughter. And may their first child be a masculine child. But we don't tend to do Gnome around these parts.
[21:53] <Moxon> yeah, I know.
[21:57] <Moxon> shadeslayer: same effect for a brand new user.
[22:08] <Moxon> question: why do my gnome applications use the oxygen theme and how can I turn this setting of?
[22:10] <shadeslayer> well ... a) Better kde integration
[22:10] <shadeslayer> and you can turn it off using systemsettings > Application appearence > GTK Config
[22:10] <shadeslayer> and you should be asking in #kubuntu-devel
[22:10] <shadeslayer> erm
[22:11] <shadeslayer> #kubuntu even
[22:11] <Moxon> yes, you are right.  This is a user question.  Thanks for pointing me towards the setting, I will try it (and switch channels).
[23:10] <ScottK> Riddell: ksnakeduel also has a ktron binary in it.  Is that intentional?  If it is, it needs to break/replace ktron.  If it isn't it needs to be removed.  Rejected it.
[23:21] <ScottK> Riddell: picimi was still in section libs.
[23:22] <ScottK> I accepted it though.
[23:22] <ScottK> picmi even
[23:25] <ScottK> Riddell: Don't bother using raring-proposed in changelog.   Just use raring and things will get automatically diverted.
[23:29] <Riddell> ScottK: wasnae me, that was shadeslayer
[23:30] <ScottK> Changelog says you ...
[23:33] <shadeslayer> actually, blame automation script
[23:33] <shadeslayer> it used raring-proposed for everything
[23:34] <Riddell> ScottK: shall I e-mail the list of new packages to colin to add to the kubuntu upload set?
[23:34] <ScottK> I'd say let's wait until they are actually in the archive.
[23:34] <ScottK> I don't think he can pre-add them.
[23:35] <Riddell> ksnakeduel reuploaded
[23:48] <ScottK> OK.
[23:48] <ScottK> Riddell: When you mail Colin, ask him to remove openimageio as well.  It's no longer a build-dep of calligra.
[23:55] <ScottK> Riddell: For konquest you need to grep for copyright stuff harder and it's worth asking upstream to fix the copyright attribution in players/neutralplayer.cpp


[02:56] <sig_> anyone have a mirror of this file? http://people.canonical.com/~tobin/maverick/panda.tar.bz2
[06:59] <bluehills> hi i am looking for a terminal emulator for at91sam9x5e board so i download qtermwidget source from web and cross compiled using buildroot for at91sam9x5e till that there is no issues,after execution of that exe file in at91sam9x5e board a terminal window has opened, but nothing happend there is no pointer focus in that terminal window, but the same qt software working good in host computer,can you tell me what is that issues
[07:12] <LetoThe2nd> bluehills: you have been here days before.
[07:12] <LetoThe2nd> bluehills: you have been told, that as on the at91 no ubuntu is running, it is no ubuntu issue.
[07:12] <LetoThe2nd> bluehills: so please consult the buildroot folks about the proper use of their build mechanism and toolchain.
[15:47] <doomlord_> does ubuntu-arm run on the samung-galaxy-tab 8.0 ... the pen makes this rather interesting IMO
[15:47] <doomlord_> ^^^ samsung galaxy note 8.0 sorry
[18:04] <tgreer> afternoon all. been trying to get a more updated ubuntu onto my tegra 250 (harmony) development board
[18:05] <tgreer> running 12.04 LTS using rootstock I'm getting the follow:
[18:05] <tgreer> I: Switching to Virtual Machine for second stage processing
[18:05] <tgreer> [    4.427444] Kernel panic - not syncing: Attempted to kill init!
[18:08] <tgreer> i believe i've to find ogra
[18:08] <tgreer> according to the docs