[05:11] <leo_mx> somebody know why i get this error when trying to edit the workspace switcher preferences?::: Failed: Failed: Schema `/schemas/apps/workspace_switcher_applet/prefs/display_all_workspaces' specified for `/apps/panel/applets/applet_16/prefs/display_all_workspaces' stores a non-schema value
[05:12] <van_> tsw,  is there a way to see what channels are you in, in irssi...besides those Act: 1,2 etc?
[05:12] <thoreauputic> van_: there's konversation for KDE as well (I hate it, but you might not...)
[05:12] <sproingie> konversation is krashy
[05:12] <tsw> van_: I bet there is, dont know it though :)
[05:12] <thoreauputic> van_: /set window
[05:12] <sproingie> there's kopete if you like really unorthodox interfaces
[05:12] <sproingie> tho it can be made to look like xchat
[05:12] <thoreauputic> van_: you can split the window
[05:13] <sugoruyo> can someone help me with some problem with the hoary dvd?
[05:13] <sugoruyo> it won't boot
[05:13] <plastiq> bye
[05:13] <dcraven> jeroen_: Possibly. Although from the context in which this dialog is opened, I think it might be somewhat obvious. Maybe a 'Help' button or a tooltip in the dialog.
[05:14] <dcraven> sproingie: I'll take your suggestion into consideration, thanks.
[05:14] <selinium> hi thoreauputic. How is it going?
[05:14] <dcraven> Anyway, this is rather off topic... I do appreciate the input though. Thanks guys.
[05:14] <thoreauputic> selinium: hi :) Not bad
[05:15] <sugoruyo> can someone tell me how to check my dvd?
[05:15] <jeroen_> sugoruyo, you can check the ISO file of the DVD with md5sums
[05:16] <sugoruyo> a.how do i do that?
[05:16] <sugoruyo> b.can it be done on m$ windoze?
[05:16] <gentoon> thoreauputic, is there a way to add inbedded objects into my desktop? like apps?
[05:16] <sugoruyo> cos' i got no linux installed... and ubuntu won't start
[05:16] <selinium> thoreauputic: Had a bit of a sh**ter today! PC died, thought I had lost all my work. Bought a new 160Gb drive and it still didn't fix it. Bought a 3.50 battery for the bios and everything works! Still I've got a new drive now!
[05:16] <jeroen_> sugoruyo, yes it can be done with Windows, but you'll need to install some app
[05:16] <thoreauputic> gentoon: haha - I haven't a clue, sorry
[05:17] <sugoruyo> that's no problem
[05:17] <sugoruyo> can u tell me what app or do i have to search for it?
[05:17] <thoreauputic> gentoon: I use fluxbox mostly, and type commands in terminals a lot
[05:17] <dbrodie> Can anybody point me to a crash course in building deb's from source? I have a couple of debs that are unstable compatible and I want to rebuild them for my ubuntu, how would I do that?
[05:18] <thoreauputic> selinium: nice big new drive , too :)
[05:18] <lotusleaf> dbrodie, use checkinstall
[05:18] <jeroen_> sugoruyo, This might explain it to you: http://h3knix.open-element.net/docs/md5.php you'll also need the md5sum of the .iso image (probably found at the same place you downloaded the dvd image)
[05:19] <sugoruyo> well the image is only available through BT but i guess the sum should be where i got the torrent file
[05:19] <selinium> thoreauputic: Indeed, now all I have to do is put it in the machine! If I install Ubuntu onto the new drive, will I be able to slave the 30Gb Ubuntu drive to copy the info over?
[05:19] <dbrodie> lotusleaf: why? I have the deb 'sources' and I don't want to lose the dependencies etc... I know it is something with the dpkg-buildpackage  but I havn't been able to find good documentation on goolge
[05:20] <engie> Hi. I've installed apache2 on ubuntu hoary, with the libapache2-mod-php4 package, but when I access a .php file through the server apache lets me download it instead of executing it. How do I tell it to execute the file? The file is chmod 755.
[05:20] <lotusleaf> dbrodie, linux documentation project page?
[05:20] <thoreauputic> selinium: I don't know much about hardware, sorry
[05:20] <selinium> thoreauputic: np :)
[05:20] <thoreauputic> selinium: I don't see why not, though
[05:21] <lotusleaf> dbrodie, I'm just guessing, please take my suggestions with a grain of salt.
[05:22] <selinium> engie: there is a walk through on www.ubuntuguide.org that shows how to set up the apache,php,mysql servers
[05:22] <selinium> engie: If you want to serve up to the net, install firestarter and open port 80 as well!
[05:23] <aliumalik> TheWeed: hey
[05:23] <engie> selinium: I followed it, but still no joy
[05:23] <engie> I'm pretty sure I have everything installed
[05:23] <lotusleaf> dbrodie, checkinstall isn't an option for you? http://www.falkotimme.com/howtos/checkinstall/index.php
[05:23] <TheWeed> hey back :P
[05:23] <engie> Am not interested in sharing with the net for now :D
[05:23] <engie> This is just a staging server
[05:24] <selinium> engie: the files are in the www directory?
[05:24] <aliumalik> can I get instructions on how to compile gaim? a tutorial maybe?
[05:24] <bob2> aliumalik: what's wrong with the version in ubuntu?
[05:24] <aliumalik> bob2: its old
[05:24] <jeroen_> bob2, it's not the latest
[05:24] <selinium> engie: have you install php4? if not the patch cant connect anything?
[05:25] <bob2> aliumalik: so?
[05:25] <engie> selinium: The files are in /var/www with 755 permissions. php4 is installed
[05:25] <aliumalik> bob2: I need 1.3 is there any place with a package. Will the debian ones work?
[05:25] <bob2> aliumalik: "need", why?
[05:26] <dbrodie> lotusleaf: thanks, but I prefer doing it the 'official' way, since I want it to support proper dependencies (checkinstall dosn't) and other such package meta info that checkinstall dosn't have.
[05:26] <aliumalik> bob2: need to install for a friend he needs the latest version
[05:26] <selinium> engie: have yuo restarted apache since applying the MOds?
[05:26] <bob2> aliumalik: *why*?
[05:26] <engie> selinium: Many times :p
[05:26] <selinium> engie: ?????
[05:26] <lotusleaf> dbrodie, yw, sorry I couldn't help more. Thanks for the detail, have you tried posting this question to the ubuntuforums?
[05:26] <aliumalik> bob2: I am afraid I cant answer that :P...I use kopete :P
[05:27] <dbrodie> lotusleaf: nope, not yet, though it will be my next step. I was hopping to get a quick answer (laziness :P )
[05:28] <lotusleaf> dbrodie, =)
[05:28] <selinium> engie: I can't see why then! are you sure you have installed php4 as well as apache2-mod-php4?
[05:28] <engie> selinium: Ahh, joy - I removed libapache2-mod-php4, did a dpkg -P to purge it then installed it again. The configs must have got screwed up somehow
[05:29] <engie> Thanks :D
[05:29] <lotusleaf> What service would be causing my hd light to flicker once every other second even when the system is idle?
[05:29] <selinium> engie: np
[05:30] <lotusleaf> I eliminated this hd flicker in SUSE by disabling hardware detection when I wasn't using any hotswap usb devices so it may be a similar issue in ubuntu?
[05:31] <nutorian> What is a website I can download Wine from?
[05:31] <lotusleaf> nutorian, check winehq.com and click on download then ubuntu
[05:32] <nutorian> Alright thank you
[05:32] <bluefoxicy> oh god
[05:32] <bluefoxicy> you can't add extensions to hoary firefox!
[05:32] <cyphase> wine is already packaged for ubuntu
[05:32] <cyphase> bluefoxicy, yes you can
[05:32] <lotusleaf> nutorian, yw
[05:32] <bluefoxicy> Cyborg_ninja20:  wanna bet?
[05:32] <bluefoxicy> err
[05:32] <bluefoxicy> cyphase:  wanna bet?
[05:32] <cyphase> yes
[05:32] <cyphase> lol
[05:32] <bluefoxicy> cyphase:  tools -> extensions -> get more extensions
[05:33] <cyphase> oh, i c
[05:33] <cyphase> lol
[05:33] <bluefoxicy> cyphase:  also try addons.mozilla.org
[05:33] <lotusleaf> cyphase, but he asked for a website ;p
[05:33] <cyphase> fake the user-agent
[05:33] <cyphase> i thought you meant there was something wrong with haory firefox itself
[05:33] <bluefoxicy> uh?
[05:33] <cyphase> no
[05:34] <cyphase> get the user-agent extension
[05:34] <cyphase> from a third-party site
[05:34] <bluefoxicy> uh
[05:34] <bluefoxicy> not helping?
[05:34] <bluefoxicy> WHAT site?
[05:35] <cyphase> do a search
[05:35] <cyphase> search for "firefox user agent"
[05:38] <geetergod> Can someone help me to get my xine working again?
[05:38] <MichaelDiederich> short question: Is it possible or "not stupid" to use the packages from dotdeb.org?
[05:39] <MichaelDiederich> i want to play with php5 and don't compile it on my own
[05:39] <geetergod> anyone help me get my xine working again?
[05:40] <nova> now if i can remember how to install a .deb and fcxe ill be happy lol
[05:40] <nova> cause i realy dont like gnome all that well heh
[05:40] <geetergod> When i go to use a dvd it says 'The source cant be read'.. 'Maybe you dont have enough rights for this, or source doesnt contain data (e.g. not disc in drive). (/dev/cdrom)'
[05:41] <bigfoot> Hello, I followed the instructions on ubuntuguide of how to get Java working in Firefox, but I still can't get it to work. In firefox, i  get a message saying "Click here to install missing plugin."   What is wrong?
[05:41] <mwh_> Hi, im running hoary and I have a problem with inkscape .. I cant seem to be able to save to other formats than svg
[05:41] <mwh_> anyone hit this before?
[05:41] <geetergod> and another xine error message says 'There is no input plugin available to handle 'dvd:/' Maybe MRL syntax is wrong or file/stream source doesnt exist'
[05:41] <MichaelDiederich> bigfoot: i done all the instructions and it works here
[05:42] <geetergod> anyone help me?
[05:42] <bigfoot> can anybody please help me get the Java Plugin worknig with Firefox, please?
[05:43] <geetergod> bigfoot: i had to do that last week, what a pain in the ass i had.
[05:43] <thoreauputic> bigfoot: look in ~/.mozilla/plugins and see if you have the plugins linked there
[05:43] <geetergod> but im new so it was hard
[05:44] <geetergod> now i cant get my xine working
[05:44] <nova> what command to install a .deb?
[05:44] <nova> i freaking lost my notes
[05:44] <nova> and how to get fxce installed
[05:44] <MichaelDiederich> nova: dpkg -i name.deb
[05:44] <dbrodie> nova: sudo dpkg -i
[05:44] <nova> ty
[05:45] <thoreauputic> nova: xfce4 is in the universe repo : sudo apt-get install xfce4
[05:45] <geetergod> can someone help me to get my dvd player working again?
[05:45] <geetergod> i dont think its just xine not working
[05:45] <bigfoot> thoreauputic, i checked that folder and all that's there are: flashplayer.xpt and libflashplayer.so.
[05:46] <thoreauputic> bigfoot: I think you need libjavaplugin_oji.so there as a symlink to the plugin
[05:47] <bigfoot> thoreauputic, how exactly can i accomplish that?
[05:47] <thoreauputic> bigfoot: here it's linked with /usr/java/jre1.5.0_01/plugin/i386/ns7/libjavaplugin_oji.so
[05:47] <geetergod> thoreauputic: can you help with my dvd player when you're done with bigfoot?
[05:48] <bigfoot> thoreauputic, how do i do the symlink?
[05:48] <thoreauputic> bigfoot: sudo ln -sf /usr/java/jre1.5.0_01/plugin/i386/ns7/libjavaplugin_oji.so /home/bigfoot/.mozilla/plugins
[05:48] <alper> hi all
[05:48] <alper> i am new to ubuntu
[05:48] <alper> and and need a bit of help
[05:48] <emacse1> I used make-jpkg to make Sun Java, but I can't seem to find the Mozilla plugins
[05:48] <thoreauputic> bigfoot: assuming your paths are the same - and of course your user name
[05:49] <alper> anyone avaible for helping a new bebie
[05:49] <emacse1> alper: just ask your question
[05:49] <thoreauputic> bigfoot: actually that syntax may not be quite right...
[05:49] <bigfoot> thoreauputic, i ran that sudo command, changing my userid... and i didn't get any error message. does this mean it worked?
[05:50] <alper> i use compaq presario x1000 laptop... everything seems to work fine... however the cursor(arrow showing right) doesnt works... how would i fix that
[05:50] <thoreauputic> not sure if a trailing slash is needed or whatever
[05:50] <thoreauputic> bigfoot: probably - try it out
[05:50] <bigfoot> thoreauputic, right. will do so.
[05:50] <thoreauputic> bigfoot: I just did that more or less off the top of my head so it may be wrong
[05:51] <nova> brb
[05:52] <bigfoot> thoreauputic, the webpage still has a box with the green puzzle piece and a message to "Click here to download plugin." i guess that command didn't work...
[05:53] <thoreauputic> bigfoot: check if anything new has appeared in .mozilla/plugins - if not then I got it wrong, sorry
[05:53] <thoreauputic> bigfoot: you can do symlinking graphically in nautilus I think - but I don't know the procedure
[05:54] <geetergod> can anyone help me with my xine/dvd player?
[05:55] <bigfoot> thoreauputic, i see libjavplugin_oji.so in the folder, but strangely when i right-click or left-click it, it disappears.
[05:55] <bigfoot> thoreauputic, i need to refresh the folder to have it appear again.
[05:55] <lotusleaf> geetergod, #xine
[05:56] <geetergod> im there but nobodies there
[05:56] <thoreauputic> check in properties where it points - or do "ls -l ~/.mozilla/plugins/libjavplugin_oji.so to see where it points
[05:56] <bigfoot> thoreauputic, i can't check in properties, because the file and the context menu disappears!
[05:57] <nova> how do i get lmsensors and xsensors to see my sensor type?
[05:57] <bigfoot> thoreauputic, and now nautilus quit on me... maybe that's somehow connected to the tricky disappearing trick. i'll try aigan.
[05:59] <lotusleaf> is there a decent nautilus replacement with 2 panes (like krusader) for gnome?
[06:00] <bigfoot> nautilus is playing tricks with me, thoreauputic ....
[06:00] <thoreauputic> bigfoot: hmm
[06:00] <bigfoot> can't even get to find out the properties via File-->Properties
[06:00] <thoreauputic> bigfoot: you might want to delete the symlink then
[06:01] <thoreauputic> in a terminal
[06:01] <bigfoot> thoreauputic, I have it in "List View" and under the "Type" heading, it says "Link (Broken)"
[06:01] <thoreauputic> just cd to the ~/.mozilla/plugins dir, then rm libjava*
[06:01] <bigfoot> maybe that's why it's acting strange
[06:01] <tsw> still seems lika a bug
[06:02] <thoreauputic> bigfoot: yes, you java may be in a different spot from mine
[06:02] <bigfoot> thoreauputic,  i was  able to delete it via Edit--> Remove to tRash.
[06:02] <thoreauputic> actually, rm libjav*
[06:02] <thoreauputic> OK
[06:02] <bigfoot> thoreauputic, how can i find out where java is located?
[06:02] <m0r0n> whereis java?
[06:03] <bigfoot> and if it's in a strange place, maybe I should put it in the default place right?
[06:03] <thoreauputic> bigfoot: run ` locate java ` I guess
[06:03] <thoreauputic> or `locate java | less `
[06:03] <lotusleaf> sudo updatedb && locate java
[06:03] <thoreauputic> probably a fair bit of output...
[06:03] <thoreauputic> lotusleaf: right, good point
[06:04] <m0r0n> thoreauputic, whereis java!
[06:04] <bigfoot> I did "whereis java" (thanks moron) and I got this: /usr/bin/java /usr/share/man/man1/java.1.gz
[06:04] <lotusleaf> thoreauputic, I'm a guacamole goblin
[06:04] <thoreauputic> bigbootay: run what lotusleaf said ( your database needs to be up to date)
[06:04] <thoreauputic> bigfoot: you need more than /usr/bin/java to link the plugins
[06:05] <bigfoot> thoreauputic, i did your "less" command too, which entry should I look at?
[06:05] <bigfoot> thoreauputic, shall i put it in flood?
[06:05] <thoreauputic> bigfoot: you are looking for a path like /usr/java/jre1.5.0_01/plugin/i386/ns7/libjavaplugin_oji.so
[06:06] <thoreauputic> note the last bit
[06:06] <thoreauputic> yours may be in /usr/bin/java (depends how you set java up)
[06:07] <DarkraD-> hello, everytime i start ubuntu i need to do "sudo ifconfig wlan0 x.x.x.x" and "route add default gw x.x.x.x" before using internet.. is there a way to automize that?
[06:07] <DarkraD-> at every boot?
[06:07] <thoreauputic> setting up java should be easier than this .. :/
[06:07] <tsw> DarkraD-: put the infomation in /etc/network/interfaces
[06:07] <DarkraD-> i read man interfaces
[06:08] <DarkraD-> but haven't understand much =\
[06:08] <DarkraD-> i can't figure out how should i set that file
[06:08] <MichaelDiederich> DarkraD-: /etc/networking/interfaces and /etc/resolv.conf
[06:08] <nova> damn it my fglrx drivers are not installed properly
[06:08] <MichaelDiederich> DarkraD-: google
[06:08] <nova> ive still got the mesa in fglrxinfo
[06:08] <DarkraD-> resolv.conf i already set
[06:08] <bigfoot> thoreauputic, i think why i got this problem was because, a few weeks ago, before running the commands of ubuntuguide.org, i wanted to play a game i downloaded called Spice Jar. So i got some java program that can run .jar files.
[06:08] <DarkraD-> i need only to add those 2 command
[06:09] <tsw> DarkraD-: no, those files have their own syntax
[06:09] <thoreauputic> bigfoot: possibly - i don't know
[06:09] <DarkraD-> ya
[06:09] <DarkraD-> i mean
[06:09] <DarkraD-> resolv.conf is already set
[06:09] <DarkraD-> i set dns servers there
[06:09] <DarkraD-> nameserver x.x.x.x
[06:09] <thoreauputic> anyway, gotta go: good luck all
[06:09] <kutucape> someone here know where to download cybercafe billing?
[06:10] <kutucape> our cybercafe has moved from windows xp to ubuntu
[06:10] <DarkraD-> i need to set wireless static ip with ifconfig wlan0 x.x.x.x and set gateway with route add default gw x.x.x.x
[06:11] <bigfoot> hi guys, i found out that i have two "libjavaplugin_oji.so"'s on my system. They are at: /usr/lib/j2sdk1.5-sun/jre/plugin/i386/ns7-gcc29/libjavaplugin_oji.so
[06:12] <bigfoot> /usr/lib/j2sdk1.5-sun/jre/plugin/i386/ns7/libjavaplugin_oji.so
[06:12] <tsw> DarkraD-: you need something like this "auto wlan0" "iface wlan0 inet static" "address x.x.x.x" "netmask x.x.x.x" "gateway x.x.x.x"
[06:12] <tsw> every " " are own lines
[06:12] <DarkraD-> nice thx
[06:12] <thakat> Hello.  Anyone know why after loading the kde gui my cdrom automounter and my login screen is gone?  (login is there upon boot but not when I end session)
[06:12] <DarkraD-> ill try
[06:13] <bigfoot> How can i let firefox know that this is where the plugin is (for java)? thoreaputic was saying about making a symlink into my mozilla/plugins folder... So i guess if i make a symlink, i can get java enabled on Firefox, right? If so, please teach me how to make the symlink. Thank you!@
[06:13] <tsw> DarkraD-: and remember to check that "auto lo" "iface lo inet loopback" is there also
[06:13] <DarkraD-> ya it's there =)
[06:13] <nova> brb
[06:17] <DanielC> Hello. Does Ubuntu use /usr/local for anything?
[06:18] <daba> DanielC: ls it.
[06:18] <DanielC> It looks like all the subdirectories are empty.
[06:18] <DanielC> daba: I did. It has directories, but those seem empty.
[06:18] <daba> well, on your system it may not then...:) did you -a?
[06:18] <bigfoot> Hi, I'm a newbie to Linux. the "Make Link..." option is greyed out when I cilck on a file... How then can i make a symlink?
[06:19] <daba> DanielC: I personally know for one i have Javas there.
[06:19] <yccheok_> bigfoot: ln -s <your source> <destination>
[06:19] <[koji] > bigfoot: man ln
[06:19] <yccheok_> any have asm.lang language syntax plugin for gedit?
[06:19] <DanielC> daba: Ok. Ultimately, I was trying to find a good place to put software that is not from the Ubuntu repository.
[06:19] <DanielC> daba: I guess it'll go in /opt then.
[06:20] <nova> whats the command to show kernel version?
[06:20] <daba> ...bah, well, if its something root should run, that is not a bad place, and make him own it...
[06:20] <carambol> uname -a
[06:20] <[koji] > DanielC: There is a good docs explaining dir structure on LDP
[06:20] <daba> bur if its software like limewire, just run it yourself.
[06:20] <DanielC> [koji] : LDP?
[06:20] <carambol> nova, uname -a
[06:21] <[koji] > oh Linux Documentation Proj
[06:21] <DanielC> ok
[06:21] <daba> tldp.com
[06:21] <DanielC> ok
[06:21] <DanielC> thanks
[06:21] <daba> but, I mean, I told you for progs.
[06:21] <DanielC> daba: Where do you put softwarelike limewire?
[06:22] <daba> in...your folder.. or run it as a completely separate user, with no privileges, just a home folder...
[06:22] <geetergod> isnt there something you can do to speedup your dvd drive so your xine isnt choppy?
[06:22] <yccheok_> yccheok: hi
[06:22] <daba> yo.
[06:22] <yccheok_> yccheok_: testing
[06:22] <daba> testis.
[06:22] <geetergod> anyone know how to do that?
[06:22] <bur[n] er> anyone use sftp:// with nautilus??
[06:23] <bigfoot> yccheok_,  it worked. Thank you very much. Just wondering, how come it can't be done in GUI/Natilus?
[06:23] <nova> there we go
[06:23] <nova> forgot needed to apt get fglrx with kernel version
[06:23] <geetergod> anyone know what im talking about?
[06:23] <spanglesontoast> if I have no printer can I stop gnome cups icon from running?
[06:23] <DanielC> daba: Well, if the point is to run limewire as a regular user I could chown /opt
[06:23] <geetergod> i swear i downloaded sometghing before that speeded up my dvd drive so xine wasnt choppy
[06:24] <daba> sure...
[06:24] <dooglus> geetergod: sorry, I don't know
[06:24] <daba> or something.
[06:24] <geetergod> k
[06:24] <daba> dooglus: thanks for the sympathy...
[06:24] <dooglus> daba: any time.
[06:24] <dooglus> but I won't kiss you.
[06:24] <DanielC> he he he
[06:24] <daba> dooglus: ok, thanks!
[06:25] <daba> !moron dooglus
[06:25] <ubotu> daba: parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about
[06:25] <daba> :)
[06:25] <spanglesontoast> can I stop the gnome cups icon from running?
[06:25] <dooglus> I just looked in /usr/local for files and found one:
[06:26] <DarkraD-> tsw: thanks, works
[06:26] <dooglus> chris@chrislap:~$ find /usr/local -type f
[06:26] <dooglus> /usr/local/share/fonts/fonts.cache-1
[06:26] <dooglus> how did that get there?  in fact, how did all those empty directories get there too?
[06:26] <DanielC> dooglus: My thoughts exactly.  :)
[06:27] <dooglus> apt-file search /usr/local/ finds nothing - no package puts anything there?
[06:27] <nihao> does amarok support MPC audio format?
[06:27] <dooglus> DanielC: do that "find /usr/local -type f" - how many does it find?
[06:27] <daba> geetergod: now that Ive let you wait a while cause you are impatient:) use windows, have those? I mean you could try this or that... there is an entry on the RestrictedFormats wiki , and mplayer may help, dunno...
[06:27] <dooglus> (-type f is "just show files, not symlinks or directories")
[06:27] <DanielC> dooglus: one
[06:27] <dooglus> DanielC: the same one as me?
[06:27] <DanielC> yup
[06:28] <dooglus> DanielC: I'm running a program called 'cruft' which checks your filesystem against the packages you've installed, and tells you which files you're missing, and which ones it can't account for.
[06:29] <DanielC> dooglus: ok
[06:29] <dooglus> DanielC: doh.  it took ages to run, and output to standard output, scrolled off the top of the screen...
[06:29] <dooglus> running it again to a file.
[06:30] <DanielC> dooglus: Thanks for the help.
[06:30] <geetergod> daba, i figured it out :)
[06:30] <geetergod> just trying to find out where to activate dma
[06:30] <daba> now, or before?
[06:31] <geetergod> im trying to figure out how to now
[06:31] <daba> well, edit the file, sudo gedit.
[06:31] <geetergod> if thats what u meant
[06:31] <gaZoo> anyone know why the fonts for nerolinux look so crappy in Ubuntu??
[06:31] <bigfoot> what does it mean when I run a java program on a website (to upload my pictures onto the website) and Firefox just closes itself...?
[06:32] <babaliciouse> gooday all, i was wondering if anyone could suggest a good gui web page editor
[06:32] <Avinoam> I have a problem- after i login to ubuntu, the computer freezes
[06:32] <linukso> bigfoot: wrong java plugin?
[06:32] <DanielC> babaliciouse: How much experience do you have?
[06:32] <Avinoam> I do CTRL, alt, backspace, and try loging in again, with no result
[06:32] <lotusleaf> babaliciouse, nvu, mozilla composer, bluefish
[06:32] <linukso> babaliciouse: nvu.
[06:33] <DanielC> babaliciouse: For a newbie I'd recommend nvu. More seasoned users seem to like Quanta. I prefer bluefish.
[06:33] <babaliciouse> i come from dreamweaver background - but would like to develop on my linux box
[06:33] <daba> geetergod: uncomment the { } llines, and the line about dma, first ls the two dirs you get for /dev/hdc, and /hdd if you have two drives, to find out which one is your dvd, but, you can also know this by which drive is the master, that one is hdc, usually, but check. and uncomment therefore those lines, in the file the document references, the wiki.
[06:33] <DanielC> ah
[06:33] <bigfoot> linukso, well, the embedded java program runs at the start. I could select "Choose files" but when i then click on the files (in the java program), that's when firefox closes itslef.
[06:33] <Avinoam> anyone have any ideas?
[06:33] <dooglus> daba: which file are you talking about?
[06:33] <daba> geetergod: um...you find out by sudo mount
[06:34] <daba> dooglus: go read the restrictedformats wiki, #8.
[06:34] <DanielC> babaliciouse: I don't know what dreamweaver is like, so I can't say which would be most similar. Sorry. So I guess just try nvu, bluefish and Quanta and see if you like any of them.
[06:34] <babaliciouse> thanx for all the suggestions -i'll check them out - do any of he above incorporate php quick adds
[06:35] <babaliciouse> i'll go give them a look thanks guys
[06:35] <DanielC> hope you find something that works well for you.
[06:35] <daba> yo, no problah
[06:35] <geetergod> i got it daba
[06:35] <geetergod> all figured out, thanks
[06:35] <linukso> bigfoot: which jre are you using?
[06:35] <daba> ok, so...I did too, and ended up in windows watching a dvd,...
[06:35] <lotusleaf> babaliciouse, you can also search sourceforge.net & freshmeat.net
[06:36] <Avinoam> Anyone?
[06:36] <daba> !anyone
[06:36] <bigfoot> linukso, how do i find out?
[06:36] <ubotu> ***anyone: No such nick/channel - and yes, there probably is someone, somewhere, who knows or runs it; that doesn't mean *I* do.
[06:36] <babaliciouse> ty lotusleaf, i'll check it out
[06:36] <linukso> bigfoot: search for java in synaptic
[06:36] <lotusleaf> babaliciouse, yw
[06:37] <Avinoam> did you guys hear my question?
[06:38] <daba> youre making your own question scroll out the screen...
[06:38] <Avinoam> huh
[06:38] <webmind> does anyone know where to get a flash plugin for firefox in ubuntu? the GPL plugn crashes firefox...
[06:39] <DanielC> Avinoam: I thought you made a statement, not a question :-)  Sorry, I don't know why Ctrl+Alt+Backspace doesn't kill X11.
[06:39] <Avinoam> My computer freezes after i enter my user name and password
[06:39] <linukso> Avinoam: what happends if you select gnome-failsafe as session
[06:39] <bigfoot> linukso, did the search for "java." nothing installed under that name.
[06:39] <Avinoam> still freezes
[06:39] <linukso> bigfoot: search for jre
[06:39] <linukso> or sun
[06:39] <Avinoam> control alt backspace does kill it
[06:39] <DanielC> oh, ok
[06:39] <Avinoam> but that doesn't help me get in
[06:40] <Avinoam> i can't figure out why it won't work
[06:40] <DanielC> :(
[06:40] <bigfoot> linukso, sun-j2re1.5 and sun-j2sdk1.5
[06:40] <Avinoam> what could the problem be?
[06:40] <daba> Avinoam: linukso's suggestion may help...
[06:41] <Avinoam> it still freezes
[06:41] <daba> dont type so much, all of you, if you dont know, dont make the quewstion scroll off the screen...
[06:41] <Avinoam> even on failsafe
[06:41] <daba> well, does console work?
[06:41] <Avinoam> no it won't let me input
[06:41] <daba> what can you do?
[06:42] <Avinoam> see the console
[06:42] <daba> just mount it somewhere, and get the files off, its locked up...
[06:42] <Avinoam> i have a knoppix live cd i just need to know what files to fix
[06:43] <dgoodwin> Anyone know how to get efax or gfax to work on other users besides root?
[06:43] <Avinoam> daba?
[06:43] <glill32> Hello, I'm a 62-year-old police dispatcher from Alabama, and my son has set me up with Ubuntu since most of the programs he has taught me to use run on both Windows XP and also Ubuntu, so I'm trying to get ubuntu setup... it looks nice but there's one problem I can't seem to fix.
[06:43] <ubermonzie> hi all
[06:43] <Amaranth> glill32: Ask and see if someone can help.
[06:44] <daba> no, he didah...
[06:44] <Avinoam> anyone know what is freezing the comp?
[06:44] <glill32> I am trying to get both my screens running. Instead, either they are both showing the same thing, or one is working right and the other one is all distorted (wrong resolution, or something).
[06:44] <Eliteforce> hi
[06:45] <glill32> Last night somebody told me to set up Xinerama, and that didn't work so well either.
[06:45] <Avinoam> need help
[06:45] <Avinoam> blah
[06:45] <Eliteforce> i've got a little question about the apt repositories ... i've downloaded some deb files from a rep. manually and would like to make apt-get find them
[06:46] <Avinoam> elite see the wiki
[06:46] <Eliteforce> k'ey :9
[06:46] <dooglus> glill32: what video card do you have?
[06:46] <Amaranth> glill32: Perhaps http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=31686 would help?
[06:46] <ubermonzie> one way would be to copy them to apt
[06:46] <ubermonzie> one way would be to copy them to apt's archive on your HD
[06:46] <Avinoam> anyone know what could cause ubuntu to freeze after login?
[06:46] <daba> Eliteforce: are they on a disc? or just in a folder? cause if your just trying to install them, that should not be too hard.
[06:47] <Avinoam> and how to correct it?
[06:47] <ubermonzie> located in /var/cache/apt/archives
[06:47] <daba> no avinoam, you say what caused it...:)
[06:47] <ubermonzie> got it Eliteforce
[06:47] <Eliteforce> ah thx
[06:47] <Avinoam> what?
[06:47] <Amaranth> Avinoam: Are you using the 2.6.11 kernel?
[06:47] <Avinoam> i'm using the newest kernel
[06:48] <Avinoam> upgraded yesterday
[06:48] <Avinoam> via synaptic
[06:48] <glill32> dooglus: I have a Radeon 9000 with two connectors on it. One connector is hooked up to a standard 17" monitor I like to run in 1280x1024, the other is hooked up to a 36" monitor that runs at 800x600
[06:48] <daba> did you log in after that?
[06:48] <inc595> anyone know where to edit vnc start option in ubtunu?
[06:48] <Avinoam> yes
[06:48] <Amaranth> Avinoam: The 2.6.11 kernel doesn't work. On startup when it says to hit escape and choose the 2.6.10 one.
[06:48] <dgoodwin> Anyone know how to get efax or gfax to work on other users besides root?
[06:48] <daba> Amaranth: there was that entry abiout dual monitors on the binarydrvirehowto...
[06:48] <dooglus> glill32: ok.  I don't know about that then.  I have an SiS video card and found a very nice driver for it.
[06:48] <Avinoam> huh?
[06:48] <Avinoam> when does it ask to hit escape?
[06:49] <Avinoam> it worked today
[06:49] <Amaranth> Avinoam: Right after BIOS but before ubuntu boots
[06:49] <Avinoam> after downloading
[06:49] <Amaranth> Avinoam: also, do you use backports or any other non-official repositories?
[06:49] <Avinoam> yes
[06:49] <Amaranth> *groan*
[06:49] <Avinoam> but i used today!!
[06:49] <Avinoam> i logged on today!!
[06:49] <Avinoam> and suddenly, no go
[06:50] <Amaranth> then you installed the 2.6.11 kernel and now it doesn't work?
[06:50] <Avinoam> i installed yesterday and it still worked
[06:50] <Amaranth> nothing changed from then until now?
[06:50] <Avinoam> network settings a litte....
[06:50] <Avinoam> but that shouldn't cause a crash!
[06:51] <Amaranth> Hrm, I have no idea.
[06:51] <dgoodwin> did you reboot after the kernel change yesterday ?
[06:51] <Avinoam> yes dgood
[06:51] <Amaranth> I know there was something with security updates for the kernel and glibc from backports that was causing problems.
[06:51] <Avinoam> well, can i reinstall kernel?
[06:51] <YazzY> hi guys
[06:51] <agent> has anyone been successful in installing IE in wine? tried both wine in ubuntu repo and the "official" wine repo for ubuntu... both hang during install using all the known methods
[06:52] <YazzY> what does ubuntu use to make all the new app appear in the gnome menu immidiately after one installed them ?
[06:52] <Avinoam> agent why would you do that?
[06:52] <dbasetrinity> can someone tell me if theres a program that can change web pages into pdf's
[06:52] <Amaranth> YazzY: The app installs a .desktop file.
[06:52] <YazzY> dbasetrinity: openoffice can
[06:52] <Amaranth> YazzY: You want to edit your menu?
[06:52] <agent> Avinoam, because there is a program that is only available on windows with no linux equivalent that requires IE
[06:52] <dbasetrinity> thank you
[06:52] <IIIEars> agent - lol - i couldn't even get solitaire to work.
[06:52] <YazzY> Amaranth: i want to use the same thing on my FreeBSD laptop with Gnome
[06:53] <Amaranth> YazzY: Oh.
[06:53] <Amaranth> YazzY: GNOME 2.10 on FreeBSD?
[06:53] <YazzY> yes
[06:53] <Blaamann> I am trying to install Enlightenment (E16) using synaptic. I find it using the 'Search', but when trying to install it Synaptic tells me it can't find an avaiable version of the the package.
[06:53] <Avinoam> so what should i do now is the question?
[06:53] <Eliteforce> ah i love the whole packaging system :D
[06:53] <dooglus> I know this is going to sound a little unlikely but...
[06:54] <SpookyET> got a YaST clone for ubuntu?
[06:54] <Eliteforce> kcontrol :P
[06:54] <agent> IIIEars, thats unfortunate because I know that about a year ago i was able to install IE in wine no problem... it's rather annoying that it wont install now :(
[06:54] <dooglus> I just found a simple "grep" command which, when I run it as my own user, not root, it causes my laptop to turn itself off!
[06:54] <YazzY> Amaranth: GNOME 2.10.0_1
[06:54] <IIIEars> agent do you remember the wine vers.?
[06:54] <Amaranth> YazzY: Complain to FreeBSD then. It's a distro thing.
[06:55] <Avinoam> anyone got an idea what i should do?
[06:55] <Amaranth> Avinoam: Sorry, no.
[06:55] <agent> IIIEars, heh... no... it was probably some random cvs version that i compiled
[06:55] <Avinoam> do i need to reinstall ubuntu?
[06:55] <Amaranth> Avinoam: Ask on the users list?
[06:55] <YazzY> Amaranth: i am on ubuntu on my dekstop box at home and i dont see any .desktop file in my ~/
[06:55] <webmind> anyone know how you 'disable composite' in xorg ?
[06:55] <Amaranth> YazzY: /usr/share/applications/
[06:55] <Amaranth> webmind: It's not enabled unless you did it manually.
[06:55] <webmind> Amaranth, ah
[06:56] <webmind> Amaranth, then my flash problem is something else
[06:56] <YazzY> Amaranth: thanks
[06:56] <IIIEars> uAh, Okay. - I don't need the power of cedega. (DOS Scrabble)
[06:56] <Amaranth> IIIEars: freedos?
[06:56] <webmind> the gpl flash player keeps crashing my firefox when I try to use flash...
[06:56] <webmind> anyone familiar with this problem ?
[06:56] <IIIEars> Amaranth - in linux?
[06:56] <Amaranth> webmind: use macromedia's flash player, the gpl'd one sucks
[06:56] <Amaranth> IIIEars: yeah
[06:56] <lok> webmind: gpl flash is more than unstable
[06:57] <webmind> good
[06:57] <Amaranth> IIIEars: sudo apt-get install freedos
[06:57] <webmind> where do I get it ?
[06:57] <IIIEars> Thank You - I'll check it out.
[06:57] <Amaranth> webmind: should be a package for it
[06:57] <YazzY> Amaranth: this is the standard gnome thing then,there is no difference between ubuntu and any other gnome installation as far as i can see
[06:57] <SpookyET> Eliteforce, not even close
[06:57] <agent> webmind, you should read www.ubuntuguide.org <--- will answer all your questions!
[06:57] <webmind> Amaranth, couldn't find it.. what should it be called ?
[06:57] <webmind> Amaranth, I'll look
[06:57] <sobersabre> hi.
[06:57] <blueyed> Can someone lend me a hand? I have problems compiling the cherry keyman software: "/usr/bin/ld: .init.o: relocation R_X86_64_32S can not be used when making a shared object; recompile with -fPIC" seems to be the error.
[06:57] <Amaranth> webmind: flashplayer-mozilla
[06:58] <agent> webmind, you should read www.ubuntuguide.org <--- will answer all your questions!
[06:58] <Amaranth> Do _not_ use ubuntuguide.org
[06:58] <webmind> Amaranth, not ?
[06:58] <agent> why not?
[06:58] <Amaranth> More on that site is wrong than right.
[06:58] <agent> not
[06:58] <agent> it worked for me
[06:58] <agent> np
[06:58] <Amaranth> And the wrong stuff breaks your computer.
[06:58] <Amaranth> agent: As a sortof ubuntu dev, trust me, I know.
[06:59] <webmind> no package called flashplayer-mozilla
[06:59] <Amaranth> hrm
[06:59] <webmind> using hoary for amd64 btw
[06:59] <Amaranth> webmind: you have universe and multiverse enabled?
[06:59] <webmind> yes
[06:59] <Amaranth> oh, amd64
[06:59] <agent> Amaranth, not when it comes to flash... it says to do what you said: sudo apt-get install flashplayer-mozilla
[06:59] <agent> :D
[06:59] <Amaranth> no flash for you then :/
[06:59] <JanC> IIIEars : I think Amaranth meant "dosbox" instead of "freedos"
[06:59] <dgoodwin> Can someone help me get my modem to work with other users besides root?
[07:00] <YazzY> Amaranth: so how the heck are the menus updated when the /usr/(local/)share/applications part is the same for any gnome installation?
[07:00] <webmind> Amaranth, not at all ?
[07:00] <sobersabre> blueyed, what are you compiling ?
[07:00] <YazzY> is there a daemon doing this ?
[07:00] <webmind> Amaranth, can't use a 32bit flash player ?
[07:00] <Amaranth> webmind: not without a 32-bit firefox
[07:00] <IIIEars> Oops - okay. (done the same thing NP Amaranth)
[07:00] <webmind> Amaranth, good enough
[07:00] <agent> webmind, just type this in console: sudo apt-get install flashplayer-mozilla
[07:00] <Amaranth> webmind: No idea how to get that.
[07:00] <agent> webmind, all on one line
[07:00] <blueyed> sobersabre: keym@n software for a cherry keyboard.. (cymolin-0.6.0-2)
[07:00] <Amaranth> agent: He is on amd64.
[07:00] <webmind> agent, doesn't exist .....
[07:00] <agent> Amaranth, ooooooooh... ooops... sorry
[07:01] <sobersabre> blueyed, why ?
[07:01] <blueyed> sobersabre: because there's no amd64 package on the CD.. it's for the extra keys of the keyboard.
[07:01] <sobersabre> why not "hotkeys" ?
[07:01] <JanC> macromedia's flashplayer is flakey too, but it's maybe more stable than the GPL'ed one  ;-)
[07:02] <WhiteRabbit> flash works flawlessly here no firefox crashs what so ever
[07:02] <webmind> is there anyway of installing 32bit packages ?
[07:02] <webmind> WhiteRabbit, on amd64 ?
[07:02] <sobersabre> blueyed, have you heard of hotkeys package ?
[07:02] <WhiteRabbit> webmind: no way lol
[07:02] <agent> has anyone been successful in installing IE in wine? tried both wine in ubuntu repo and the "official" wine repo for ubuntu... both hang during install using all the known methods
[07:02] <webmind> sig
[07:02] <blueyed> sobersabre: just apt-getting it, thanks :)
[07:03] <webmind> agent, I know someone who has IE in crossoveroffice I think ?
[07:03] <daba> WhiteRabbit: no, eh? hm...
[07:03] <sobersabre> blueyed, i am not so sure it'll help.
[07:03] <agent> webmind, but crossover office is not free :D
[07:03] <sobersabre> what is the model of the kbd ?
[07:03] <WhiteRabbit> I wouldn't personly run a amd64 yet
[07:04] <sobersabre> blueyed, which model ?
[07:04] <webmind> agent, true
[07:04] <Max> hey all
[07:04] <Max> help me plz
[07:04] <sobersabre> blueyed, before you download, i can tell if it is supported! why do you d/l it before checking ? :)
[07:04] <agent> webmind, it's rather annoying because it worked about a year ago :(
[07:04] <blueyed> sobersabre: G86-21070
[07:04] <sobersabre> Max, ask.
[07:05] <webmind> agent, ok
[07:05] <webmind> agent, might still
[07:05] <Max> sobersabre, i have downloaded a file "gnome-themes.2.4.1.tar.bz2" how do i install it??
[07:05] <jaysunn> Hello all I am new to ubuntu, I am using Kubuntu Hoary release.  Can anyone help with this.  http://pastebin.com/293993
[07:05] <sobersabre> blueyed, i don't see it among supported models
[07:05] <agent> webmind, it does not... at least i cant get it to work using different methods of installing :(
[07:05] <sobersabre> Max, why have you downloaded it ?
[07:06] <blueyed> sobersabre: man says "And more..." :/
[07:06] <cevans> In a pinned setup, is there any way to list all installed breezy packages, or to replace all breezy packages to hoary packages?
[07:06] <Max> just wanted a new theme
[07:06] <Max> sobersabre, just wanted a new theme
[07:06] <sobersabre> you open preferences->themes and drag the file there...
[07:06] <sobersabre> into the list.
[07:06] <cevans> s/to/with
[07:07] <Max> but says its not installed.. do i have to configure or something i am new to linux sobersabre
[07:08] <Max> sobersabre, it says i need to compile
[07:08] <sobersabre> Max,
[07:08] <Max> how do i compile sobersabre
[07:08] <agent> Max, in preferences->themes notice the big button called "Install Theme".... try using that
[07:08] <sobersabre> do you want to get into troubles ?
[07:08] <Max> yes it says i need to compile sobersabre
[07:08] <sobersabre> agent, it is source for themes 2.4.1
[07:09] <sobersabre> Max which ubuntu version do you have ?
[07:09] <agent> sobersabre, ah :)
[07:09] <Max> i have 5.04
[07:09] <Max> 64 bit ver
[07:09] <sobersabre> then you most probably already have it.
[07:09] <bystander> Max: save youself the trouble and install gnome-themes-extras
[07:09] <blueyed> sobersabre: "hotkeys -t itouch" at least gets the volume.. :/ So, I'd still like to compile the "native" keyman software.. @all: please PM me if you think you can help.
[07:09] <bystander> *yourself
[07:09] <Fator_Dee> hello channel \o
[07:09] <Max> bystander, from synaptics?
[07:09] <sobersabre> Max: can you run dpkg -l gnome-themes
[07:09] <agent> Max, yes
[07:09] <bystander> Max: yes. or use apt
[07:10] <Max> sobersabre,  let me try
[07:10] <sobersabre> Max from terminal, run: dpkg -l gnome-themes
[07:10] <Eliteforce> where can i get the qt3-dev package from? i need it for compiling raconfig
[07:10] <sobersabre> you will see gnome-themes v. 2.10 something...
[07:10] <Max> yes sobersabre  it gives some output
[07:10] <sobersabre> right ?
[07:10] <Fator_Dee> Eliteforce: tried searching in synaptic?
[07:10] <sobersabre> ii is on the left ?
[07:10] <Eliteforce> ah i think i found it
[07:11] <bystander> bystander: gnome-themes-extras is in the universe repository
[07:11] <sijp> libqt3-dev
[07:11] <Max> sobersabre,  it gives Desired=Unknown/Install/Remove/Purge/Hold
[07:11] <newbbie> hi all
[07:11] <Blaamann> How do I change the language in GNOME ? Some applications defaults to danish instead of my chosen language that is norwegian. It is possible to choose another language than danish whenever norwegian is unavailable ?
[07:11] <Max> sobersabre,  Status=Not/Installed/Config-files/Unpacked/Failed-config/Half-installed
[07:12] <sobersabre> Max this is the top line.
[07:12] <sobersabre> what is the bottom line ?
[07:12] <newbbie> a simple question: how does one save automatically the output resulting from the execution of a command to a text file?
[07:12] <Lord-Phoenix> hey by default, i'm gonna assume ubuntu uses gdm, but where does it start it?
[07:13] <Max> yes and the second line is  Status=Not/Installed/Config-files/Unpacked/Failed-config/Half-installed
[07:13] <Max>  sobersabre
[07:13] <webmind> is there anyway to do some 32bit emulation or something on amd64 ?
[07:13] <agent> Blaamann, just so you know, there is a help article on how to configure languages on ubuntu.org (probably the wiki)
[07:13] <sobersabre> the bottom line is "sobersabre"?
[07:13] <Max> sobersabre, ii  gnome-themes       2.10.0-0ubuntu1    official themes for the GNOME 2 desktop
[07:13] <Blaamann> agent: Ok, I will search for it
[07:13] <sobersabre> i didn't release any packages of myself yet.
[07:13] <blueyed> newbbie: command > file
[07:13] <Max> lol sorry sobersabre
[07:14] <agent> newbbie, instead of typing command type in command > file
[07:14] <Blaamann> newbbie: >> file.text
[07:14] <sobersabre> Max as you can see you already have the newer package.
[07:14] <Max> okay..
[07:14] <sobersabre> MAx if u want more, go to gnome-look.org
[07:14] <Lord-Phoenix> someone? where does Ubuntu start gdm?
[07:14] <sobersabre> there are plenty of them there...
[07:14] <sobersabre> Lord-Phoenix, depends.
[07:14] <sobersabre> if you choose kubuntu cd, it starts kdm
[07:14] <Max> sobersabre,  i can download but again i dont know how to compile
[07:15] <Raskall> anyone knows of how the shipping of cd's is done? a lot of my friends that ordered same time as me has gotten theirs, but I havent seen even a floppy disk in my mailbox.
[07:15] <Lord-Phoenix> sobersabre: assume you choose ubuntu cd, and go with the defaults
[07:15] <cevans> Lord-Phoenix: /etc/init.d/gdm ?
[07:15] <newbbie> ah... :) thank you agent and Blaamann :)
[07:15] <Max> so sobersabre  will u plz tell me how to compile??
[07:15] <webmind> hmm
[07:15] <sobersabre> Max, themes are collection of pictures and conf. files. they don't need to be really compiled,
[07:15] <webmind> will de 32bit flashplayer work on a 32bit mozille on amd64 ?
[07:15] <Max> ok sob let me try
[07:15] <sobersabre> you dl them, and then drag them into the themes dialog.
[07:15] <marky> anyone know how to install a computer as gateway using ubuntu ?
[07:15] <Max> thank you sobersabre
[07:15] <Blaamann> newbbie: >> appends to the file
[07:16] <inc595> got fluxbox and vnc running ... pretty fast
[07:16] <sobersabre> just there are many types of themes: win controls, win decors, icon sets
[07:17] <Max> sobersabre,  but how do i compile the .tar files??
[07:18] <Max> i am not getting sound from XMMS...
[07:18] <Fator_Dee> Max: extract the tar and read the README file
[07:18] <Max> i cant hear any sound..
[07:18] <Max> okay sobersabre
[07:19] <Max> do i have to install any plugin to watch movie on totem?? its not working in my sys
[07:19] <marky> fluxbox ?
[07:19] <Eliteforce> how can i do this by console:  Under System -> Administration you will find networking. Your Ralink card will be listed there. Activate it.
[07:19] <inc595> never heard of it?
[07:20] <inc595> marky, it's a windows manger like gnome
[07:20] <marky> mmm...
[07:20] <inc595> but stripped of all the bloat
[07:20] <goldfish> the new fluxbox is great
[07:20] <marky> i've only heard icewm
[07:20] <marky> :)
[07:20] <goldfish> marky: www.fluxbox.org, check out the screenshots, and you will want to use it :0
[07:20] <goldfish> IT's so cool looking.
[07:20] <inc595> hehe fluxbox is pretty
[07:21] <Max> can i use KDE in ubuntu??
[07:21] <marky> will it work on p2 400mhz with 64 ram ?
[07:21] <goldfish> Max: Yes.
[07:21] <inc595> kubuntu
[07:21] <goldfish> marky: Of course.
[07:21] <lok> Max: apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[07:21] <webmind> hoary is suposed to be a stable release ?
[07:21] <goldfish> marky: It's alot faster than gnome.
[07:21] <goldfish> webmind: It is.
[07:21] <Max> lok what is the size??
[07:21] <webmind> goldfish, so these anoying bugs shouldn't be
[07:21] <marky> mm.. i want to install a gateway
[07:21] <inc595> Marky i'm running it on a amd-k6
[07:22] <webmind> Xorg just crashed on trying to play a vob file
[07:22] <inc595> if you icewm then u can run fluxbox
[07:22] <goldfish> webmind: oh right... hmmm.
[07:22] <marky> a whole lan connect to internet through that
[07:22] <webmind> also on a mov file
[07:22] <marky> should i use fluxbox or.. just command line ?
[07:22] <inc595> dude command line all the way
[07:22] <Max> lok, do u have any idea what is the size of that?? because my download is limited..
[07:22] <inc595> who needs a gui
[07:23] <marky> hehehehe,
[07:23] <bystander> Max: around 100MB
[07:23] <marky> i don't quite know about command line in linux
[07:23] <Max> thankx bystander
[07:23] <inc595> well just load aterm and you got commad line lol
[07:23] <marky> lol, not that
[07:23] <marky> i mean that awk , gawk,
[07:24] <marky> or setting shorewall (firewall)
[07:24] <Max> i am just using linux.. and its amazing.. sound quality and some features are better than windows.
[07:24] <marky> very confusinngggg :((
[07:25] <ante> I just wonder why my fast speed internet is so slow in every linux distro I try
[07:25] <ante> in windows it takes 1sec to load a page
[07:25] <Pop_pa_FrEaK> ante what kind of connectiuon do you have ?
[07:25] <ante> 10mbit
[07:25] <Pop_pa_FrEaK> connection*
[07:25] <Pop_pa_FrEaK> you behind a router ?
[07:25] <ante> yepp
[07:25] <marky> ante: it seems me too have the same problem
[07:25] <inc595> brb
[07:25] <webmind> hmm
[07:25] <ante> di-804
[07:25] <webmind> nm
[07:26] <Pop_pa_FrEaK> are you using dhcp ?
[07:26] <marky> the download limited to about 9 kbps maybe
[07:26] <ante> marky ok good.. thought I was alone =)
[07:26] <ante> yepp dhcp it is
[07:26] <marky> in windows, .. it's about 22 kbps >_<"
[07:26] <webmind> should ubuntu voor the i386 work on amd64 ?
[07:26] <Pop_pa_FrEaK> I use the same and I have no trouble
[07:26] <Pop_pa_FrEaK> i have the di-604
[07:27] <ante> I dont have trouble but it is not so fast as when I surf the web in windows
[07:27] <r0d> what can I use to burn dvd's
[07:27] <Fator_Dee> r0d: graveman, nautilus, gnomebaker, growisfs
[07:27] <marky> yes.. i can still browsing & download
[07:27] <ante> while a page takes 1sec in windows it takes 1min in linux
[07:27] <Fator_Dee> *growisofs
[07:27] <Pop_pa_FrEaK> r0d, what desktop are you using ?
[07:27] <marky> but it seems the speed are different
[07:27] <Max> anyone??
[07:28] <r0d> Pop_pa_FrEaK, gnome. i just need to backup my movies and dont want to use windows
[07:28] <r0d> I have gnomebaker Fator_Dee and theirs no option. i searched for plugins
[07:28] <Pop_pa_FrEaK> try dvd:rip r0d
[07:28] <Fator_Dee> r0d: option for what? it can burn dvd's
[07:29] <r0d> thx Pop_pa_FrEaK
[07:29] <Max> can i watch TV in
[07:29] <Pop_pa_FrEaK> not sure max
[07:29] <r0d> Fator_Dee, I dont know, i cant see any dvd options.
[07:29] <Max> can i watch tv in ubuntu .. i have a mercury tv card
[07:30] <Max> Pop_pa_FrEaK, why not? does not support the hardware?
[07:30] <pestilence> Max: try xawtv
[07:30] <Fator_Dee> Max: try to use the card and you'll see
[07:30] <Fator_Dee> Max: or tvtime
[07:30] <herpes> no no tvtime
[07:30] <herpes> xaw is nasty
[07:30] <Fator_Dee> whatever works for you
[07:31] <GeMiNniS> er irc-hispano.org
[07:31] <GeMiNniS> er dune.irc-hispano.org
[07:32] <Max> i tried in the older version on ubuntu .. didnt work there.. will it work here in 5.04?
[07:33] <webmind> ok.. Xorg crashes if I want to use Xv
[07:33] <agent> Max, the question is not whether Ubuntu supports the card or not its whether or not the card supports linux :D
[07:33] <gentoon> man i just got everything setup like i like it but now i lost sound
[07:33] <Max> oh.. so its the other way :D agent
[07:33] <ante> does anyone know if there is gaim skins to download in cyberspace?
[07:33] <synd> !seen nern
[07:33] <ubotu> nern<EMAIL_ADDRESS>was last seen on IRC in channel #ubuntu, 7h 8m 31s ago, saying: 'hey hey hey'.
[07:34] <gentoon> how can i reconfigure my sound?
[07:34] <Max> anyways agent  what plugin do i need to install to watch movie in totem?
[07:34] <synd> gentoon, whats wrong with it?
[07:34] <Lord-Phoenix> anyone know about ubuntu black screening after logout with the ATI fglrx drivers?
[07:34] <ante> Max just download xine and everything will work!
[07:34] <webmind> ranyone know if ubuntu for i386 will work on amd64 ?
[07:35] <bystander> webmind: yes, it will
[07:35] <synd> webmind, yes
[07:35] <Max> totem xine?? i have downloaded.. it says need to install required plugin ante
[07:35] <webmind> ok
[07:35] <webmind> then might as well downgrade
[07:35] <IIIEars> xine is best!
[07:35] <webmind> if half of the amd64 stuff doesn';t work yet..
[07:35] <webmind> :(
[07:35] <gentoon> synd, was working fine before but no i just dun have it, cant even open the volume control?
[07:36] <synd> gentoon, odd. try logging out and logging back in?
[07:36] <bystander> gentoon: try alsamixer in a terminal
[07:36] <gentoon> of x yea
[07:36] <Max> it says there is no plugin to handle this movie
[07:36] <ante> Max get the unsupported plugins from your repositories
[07:36] <synd> Max, you have to get the restrictedformats
[07:36] <bystander> ! restricted
[07:36] <Max> ante i dont know which plugin i need
[07:36] <ubotu> restricted is probably http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats
[07:36] <bystander> max read that
[07:37] <IIIEars> !thanks
[07:37] <ubotu> bitte, IIIEars
[07:37] <sppt> hi
[07:37] <synd> !seen zevin
[07:37] <ubotu> i haven't seen 'zevin', synd
[07:38] <ante> The restrictedformats page does not help so much
[07:38] <synd> Max, I like using ubuntuguide.com
[07:38] <sppt> how can i dump the grub loader, and use the original windows one?? cuz i dont use linux anymore
[07:38] <Max> okay
[07:38] <synd> Max, .org i mean
[07:39] <Zirland> Hi. I have small problem with keyboard layout. I use QWERTY layout in the system, but on the Login screen it types QWERTZ, which is standard
[07:39] <pestilence> sppt: fdisk /MBR
[07:39] <sppt> and then?
[07:39] <IIIEars> http://ubuntuguide.org/
[07:39] <pestilence> no adn then.
[07:39] <Max> i wonder .com is not working
[07:39] <sppt> ?
[07:39] <webmind> ok..
[07:39] <sppt> adn???
[07:40] <angelo> hello all
[07:40] <webmind> sofar.. -every- media player crashed Xorg on amd64/hoary
[07:40] <pestilence> NO AND THEN :-D
[07:40] <webmind> using radeon driver
[07:40] <synd> max, what IIIEars said, I flubbed up
[07:40] <angelo> who wanna help me ?
[07:40] <sppt> i still dont get it:P
[07:40] <pestilence> you probably have to boot off a boot disk to do that, you need a windows fdisk
[07:40] <IIIEars> NP - yes and i am perfect too.. - lol
[07:40] <JanC> angelo : we don't know what you want ?  :)
[07:40] <angelo> :)
[07:40] <Max> yes synd  thankx.. its working
[07:40] <pestilence> sppt: fdisk /MBR restores the mbr.  it will remove grub.
[07:41] <sppt> k
[07:41] <angelo> i want compile the kadu [kady.net] , but i have some bugs...
[07:41] <synd> Max, so you got xine working?
[07:41] <angelo> [kadu.net]
[07:41] <pestilence> sppt: but you want windows fdisk, not linux.
[07:41] <sppt> and then, i can use partition magic or something to get my space to my drive back?
[07:41] <pestilence> sure, why not.
[07:41] <sppt> :)
[07:41] <gentoon_> man something is really wrong, i completey restarted and i didnt even get a volume icon in the systray, i have no sound at all
[07:41] <pestilence> sppt: you'll probably get a warmer welcome in a windows channel, though.
[07:42] <Max> noo synd
[07:42] <gentoon_> Man i really start to like this os, then something breaks
[07:42] <IIIEars> sppt - (Psst. qtparted comes on the othe live CD distro "Kn" something. - works pretty well.)
[07:42] <Max> it was working
[07:42] <sppt> bad thing is that all my disk are nuked
[07:42] <angelo> i have this bug: checking for C++ compiler default output file name... configure: error: C++ compiler cannot create executables
[07:42] <Max> but its not working now synd
[07:42] <devinjd> what's up everyone
[07:42] <synd> gentoon_, http://www.ubuntuguide.org/#configuresoundproperly
[07:42] <lotusleaf> sppt, that's not a bug that's a feature
[07:42] <gentoon_> i just spent like 3 hrs making all these launches and customizing and now i lost sound
[07:42] <angelo> anyone can help me ?
[07:42] <devinjd> have a quick question...
[07:42] <bystander> sppt: angelo sudo apt-get install build-essential
[07:43] <inva|id> how do you start a new session from within gnome?
[07:43] <angelo> i try..
[07:43] <sppt> :S
[07:43] <bystander> sorry sppt - for angelo
[07:43] <sppt> k
[07:43] <Zirland> anybody help me with keyb layout setup?
[07:43] <marky> anyone know manual how to configure shorewall ?
[07:43] <pestilence> marky: /etc/shorewall
[07:43] <lotusleaf> -sppt- My current status is: online. My nick has been said 76 times. <-- that's dumb
[07:43] <angelo> i'm from poland so my english is not good..
[07:43] <angelo> :)
[07:44] <Amaranth> lotusleaf: how did you get that?
[07:44] <sppt> thats nnscript or something, dunno exactly
[07:44] <marky> yeah.. i mean the complete manual
[07:44] <pestilence> Amaranth: say sppt's name
[07:44] <marky> how to set etc2
[07:44] <Amaranth> sppt:
[07:44] <sppt> :p
[07:44] <lotusleaf> Amaranth, it's showing up whenever I type sppt
[07:44] <Amaranth> Yeah, turn that off.
[07:44] <bystander> angelo: you need the build-essential package
[07:44] <sppt> cant:(
[07:44] <IIIEars> sppt - if you are comfortable with linux tmsrtbt disk is very good - not easy.
[07:44] <Amaranth> Then get a new IRC client.
[07:44] <devinjd> any way I can fix my mixer so that the master volume works?
[07:44] <lotusleaf> sppt, it's fscking annoying
[07:45] <sppt> i know
[07:45] <sppt> jsut dont say my name
[07:45] <devinjd> basically im trying to control my volume using the volume keys on my laptop but it only control the master volume
[07:45] <devinjd> which does not do anything
[07:45] <devinjd> i have to use PCM
[07:45] <Amaranth> sppt: That's how we talk to people on IRC. We say their name before the message. Like this.
[07:45] <angelo> i think i have build-essential package, i write sudo apt-get install build-essential, and it's complete...but what now ?
[07:45] <bystander> sppt: um - no YOU turn it off, please
[07:45] <lotusleaf> sppt, that, coupled with your I don't use linux remark or whatever earlier is enough to warrant an addition to my ignore list
[07:45] <devinjd> any idieas?
[07:46] <angelo> anyone know ?:)
[07:46] <Amaranth> sppt: Get rid of your 1337 h@x0r illegal mIRC install and it won't be a problem.
[07:46] <sppt> its legal
[07:46] <funky> hi
[07:46] <synd> cant we all just get along : )
[07:46] <sobersabre> devinjd, which desktop are you on ? gnome or kde ?
[07:46] <Amaranth> sppt: You paid for it?
[07:46] <sppt> w8, it could be a script
[07:46] <daba> angelo:)
[07:46] <funky> I cant install apt-file in breezy :(
[07:46] <pestilence> marky: have you looked at the files in /etc/shorewall
[07:46] <sppt> every1 knows that mirc is free
[07:46] <synd> sppt, no
[07:46] <Amaranth> sppt: It it a script, disable it.
[07:47] <funky> E: Package libapt-pkg-libc6.3-5-3.9 has no installation candidate
[07:47] <Amaranth> sppt: It's not free, it's nagware.
[07:47] <IIIEars> sppt - when you said your disks are nuked. - Did you just need a good app to burn an iso in windows? "ISOBurner Powertoy" by Alex Feinman (linux cdrecord or gnomebaker is better)
[07:47] <marky> i have
[07:47] <synd> sppt, its shareware.
[07:47] <Amaranth> sppt: Disabling the nag without paying is illegal.
[07:47] <pestilence> marky: and how about the documentation on the shorewall website or in /usr/share/doc/shorewall?
[07:47] <angelo> daba: you know ? :>
[07:47] <sppt> well, after the days are expired, u can still click continue
[07:47] <synd> -sppt- VERSION ( NoNameScript 3.81 :: www.nnscript.de :: www.XLhost.de )
[07:47] <marky> pestilence: well.. i don't understand itu
[07:48] <synd> sppt, just unload the scripts bud
[07:48] <inc595> marky, I mae a couple screen shot of my fluxbox desktop
[07:48] <marky> pestilence: it is just too... complicated
[07:48] <daba> angelo, not sure, was that the whole question, you installed build essential, and now what?
[07:48] <sppt> i gotta friggin fiind it
[07:48] <bystander> sppt: this is a different world: we don't *have* to use lame nagware
[07:48] <pestilence> marky: what are you trying to do
[07:48] <gentoon_> Still no sound!! wtf?
[07:48] <synd> sppt, no. unload them all. scripts are a kiddy thing from the mid 90s
[07:48] <inc595> http://ubuntu.minimzx.com/screenshot.jpg
[07:48] <marky> pestilence: i'm trying to build a gateway
[07:48] <JanC> angelo : you have a C++ compiler installed ?
[07:48] <JanC> :)
[07:48] <angelo> that i think :)
[07:48] <sppt> i cant friggin find it
[07:49] <drspin> anyone used OpenOffice 2?
[07:49] <angelo> but where i can try this ?
[07:49] <marky> pestilence: and i want to install firewall of course
[07:49] <IIIEars> sppt - find  what?
[07:49] <Fator_Dee> synd: well, there are also good scripts :-\
[07:49] <Blaamann> drspin_ yes
[07:49] <sppt> the friggin script
[07:49] <angelo> i download a gcc 4.0..and i install it....
[07:49] <gentoon_> i dunno what to try now
[07:49] <marky> pestilence: the gateway itself well.. is an old computer, so maybe i'll use command line instead of any GUI
[07:49] <gentoon_> guess i was taking sound for granted
[07:49] <pestilence> marky: shorewall is a bit complicated for a beginner.  that's about all i can say :)
[07:49] <bystander> angelo: um - gcc 4 on hoary??
[07:50] <JanC> angelo : try "g++ --version"
[07:50] <marky> inc595: wawww.... great !
[07:50] <angelo> daba - i write in bahs this line...and something it's done...what now ?
[07:50] <synd> sppt, bud, go into mIRC script editor (the green a/ icon) select all, delete, and save
[07:50] <angelo> i have g++ installed
[07:50] <synd> Fator_Dee, :p
[07:50] <marky> pestilence: mm... can you recommend any other firewall ?
[07:50] <inc595> marky, making a second one
[07:50] <Fator_Dee> synd: like I use keepnick.pl and dns.pl :-p
[07:50] <pestilence> marky: for just a firewall, you could look at rc.firewall.  very simple.
[07:50] <IIIEars> firestarter linux firewall - a GUI Wee!
[07:50] <sppt> im searching the script, but i think its just the friggin nnscript
[07:50] <gentoon_> what could have screwed up my sound so bad?
[07:51] <synd> whatever sppt
[07:51] <marky> pestilence: rc.firewall ?
[07:51] <pestilence> marky: http://projectfiles.com/firewall/
[07:51] <gentoon_> i dun even think its starting a sound server
[07:51] <marky> pestilence: i'll try
[07:51] <synd> gentoon, what does alsamixer return in terminal
[07:51] <gentoon_> it opens a cmi mixer
[07:51] <IIIEars> Firestarter will let you peak at it's internals and get you ready for shorewall
[07:52] <marky> marky: test
[07:52] <sppt> fuck my floppy's >:(
[07:52] <Zirland> I have small problem with keyboard layout. I use QWERTY layout in the system, but on the Login screen it types QWERTZ, which is standard
[07:52] <gentoon_> my system monitor says everything is sleeping?
[07:52] <inc595> marky, http://ubuntu.minimzx.com/screenshot2.jpg
[07:52] <angelo> i write again :) - i write in bash "sudo apt-get install build-essential", and something it's done....what i should do now ? after this command ?
[07:52] <bystander> gentoon_: check for muted channels
[07:52] <webmind> are there non-rpm packages for the propriatary ati drivers?
[07:52] <marky> pestilence: is it textmode ?
[07:52] <daba> angelo: angelo, you cant be asking me what to do after you install build essential, did you have a reason you installed it?
[07:52] <gentoon_> its all right
[07:52] <gentoon_> just the sound server isnt running
[07:52] <pestilence> marky: yes.
[07:53] <inc595> marky, shows the menuon that one
[07:53] <gentoon_> thst why i get no volume icon in system tray at startup
[07:53] <pestilence> marky: but pretty much all you hav to do is run the script.
[07:53] <angelo> yes, i want compile a kadu communicator www.kadu.net, but some bugs are in my pc....in compiler...
[07:53] <sppt> can i also put the bootdisk on one of my hdd's, and then let it boot to there?
[07:53] <bystander> gentoon_: sudo /etc/init.d/alsa restart
[07:53] <IIIEars> angelo - Upgrading your kernel for a videao driver? - build-essential is ready to go. add your new kernel source.
[07:54] <marky> inc595: very2 niceeeee :)
[07:54] <angelo> ok, i try
[07:54] <daba> angelo: my mom always says, get some bug spray... dude, you need to tell exactly what you are doing, and what the rror you are getting is.
[07:54] <angelo> :)
[07:54] <angelo> ok, from beginning:
[07:54] <marky> inc595: but can it (fluxbox) work on an old computer ?
[07:54] <IIIEars> heh
[07:54] <daba> in one line, please.
[07:55] <bystander> marky: it's particularly good on old computers
[07:55] <angelo> i download the tar.bz2 archive from kadu.net [this is a communicator] , now i want to compile it, but i have some bugs... you understand me ?
[07:55] <bystander> marky: very light on resources
[07:55] <inc595> this box i'm on now is a celron 366MHx overclocked to 411MHz with 362MB of ram
[07:55] <spanglesontoast> can I stop the gnome cups icon from running?
[07:55] <Gentoon> maybe some program in the bg is using my sound?
[07:56] <daba> angelo, just state you rproblem, and if someone understands and knows how to fix it they will tell you.
[07:56] <inc595> it runs way faster then when i load gnome
[07:56] <marky> bystander: well.. maybe i'll use just 64 MB RAM
[07:56] <graabein> hi! how do i find out which /dev/ node my ipod uses? in the etc/mtab-file
[07:56] <marky> aaah... i'm very confuseeeee T_T;
[07:56] <angelo> anyone knows how compile kadu communicator on newest ubuntu linux ? :)
[07:57] <Gentoon> ANy other idea's on my sound?
[07:57] <bystander> Gentoon: lsof /dev/dsp
[07:57] <J0el> wat do i use to get a screenshot in ubuntu?
[07:57] <bystander> Gentoon: might tell you what is using it
[07:57] <Gentoon> bystander, okay done..
[07:57] <graabein> J0el, printscreen button on your keyboard
[07:57] <Naveg> does anyone know how to get ndiswrapper working with the live cd?
[07:57] <Gentoon> bystander, didn't return anything
[07:57] <bystander> :(
[07:57] <J0el> graabien ,dosent work.
[07:57] <Gentoon> man it was working fine
[07:57] <J0el> ive tried that
[07:57] <bystander> Gentoon: is sed running ?
[07:58] <bystander> oops
[07:58] <bystander> Gentoon: I mean esd
[07:58] <Gentoon> dun think so
[07:58] <J0el> atleast nothing gets copied to the clipboard so i can paste it in gimp or something
[07:58] <pestilence> J0el: "system...Take Screenshot"
[07:58] <graabein> J0el, how about system > take a screen shot from the gnome menu
[07:58] <Gentoon> killall esd returns not running
[07:58] <angelo> i do something...now i need zlib-devel library :D, where i can find it ?
[07:58] <Naveg> does anyone know how to get ndiswrapper working with the live cd?
[07:59] <J0el> i have the 4.10 version
[07:59] <bystander> Gentoon: so run it
[07:59] <J0el> it dosent have any option such as that
[07:59] <graabein> anyone got ipod? it doesn't read when i plug it
[07:59] <pestilence> angelo: apt-cache search zlib-dev
[07:59] <Gentoon> It made a sound!!!
[07:59] <J0el> any package i cud download?
[07:59] <pestilence> angelo: probably libzlib-dev
[07:59] <angelo> ok, wait :)
[07:59] <Gentoon> I have sound
[07:59] <bystander> Gentoon: that's what it should do...
[07:59] <pestilence> J0el: how about gnome-screenshot
[07:59] <Gentoon> why doesnt it startup by itself?
[08:00] <J0el> in shell ?
[08:00] <pestilence> J0el: yes
[08:00] <angelo> don't work :/
[08:00] <Naveg> does anyone know how to get ndiswrapper working with the live cd?
[08:00] <mof> hi all
[08:00] <J0el> mm k ill try that
[08:00] <J0el> brb
[08:00] <J0el> on wind0ws atm :\
[08:00] <bystander> Gentoon: do you have it set to start when you log in to gnome?
[08:00] <Gentoon> it used to do it by itself
[08:00] <Gentoon> i never had to set it
[08:00] <angelo> i write this command in bash...and it's don't work...
[08:01] <bystander> Gentoon: check the sound server settings
[08:01] <Gentoon> why would i have to manually tell gnome to start esd
[08:01] <angelo> i downloading a new kernel...
[08:01] <Gentoon> how bystander
[08:01] <bystander> Gentoon: normally you wouldn't
[08:02] <bystander> Gentoon: gnome-sound-properties
[08:02] <Naveg> does anyone know how to get ndiswrapper working with the live cd?
[08:02] <bystander> Gentoon: "enble sound server..." check the box
[08:02] <bystander> *enable
[08:02] <angelo> hello?
[08:02] <Gentoon> it was checked
[08:03] <bystander> hm
[08:03] <bystander> *shruG* it's a mystery
[08:03] <devinjd> hi everyone
[08:03] <Naveg> does anyone know how to get ndiswrapper working with the live cd?
[08:03] <angelo> i'm back
[08:03] <Gentoon> why do i get all the "mysteries"?
[08:03] <daba> angelo: hehe...
[08:04] <angelo> huh ?
[08:04] <bystander> Gentoon: is sound working now? after you ran esd?
[08:04] <Gentoon> yea
[08:04] <spanglesontoast> can I stop the gnome cups icon from running?
[08:04] <Gentoon> but i dun wanna have to manually start it everytime i log in
[08:04] <Filka>
[08:04] <Gentoon> still dun have the lil volume control in the sys tray
[08:05] <bystander> Gentoon: well at least if it happens again you know where to look
[08:05] <Gentoon> yea
[08:05] <angelo> zlib-devel library... i need it :) but from where i can download it ?
[08:05] <Gentoon> thx
[08:05] <devinjd> does anyone know how to make the master volume work...PCM seems to be the only thing that works
[08:05] <devinjd> and headphones
[08:05] <Gentoon> lol
[08:05] <bystander> Gentoon: it may come back if you do `killall gnome-panel`
[08:05] <pestilence> angelo: sudo apt-get install zlib1g-dev
[08:06] <Naveg> does anyone know how to get ndiswrapper working with the live cd?
[08:06] <daba> angelo: how come you are building from sourcewhen there are debs right on the site?
[08:06] <pestilence> angelo: you can search for packages with "apt-cache search <search term>"
[08:06] <angelo> debs are working on ubuntu ?
[08:06] <bystander> Gentoon: else right click the panel and see if you can add it
[08:06] <pestilence> for example, apt-cache search zlib produces the library you want
[08:06] <Gentoon> i tried to add it, nothing happens
[08:07] <goldfish> Naveg: Have you downloaded it?
[08:07] <bystander> Gentoon: did you try killall gnome-panel? It will regenerate the panel
[08:07] <Gentoon> restarting it doesnt bring it back either
[08:07] <Gentoon> i tried
[08:07] <bystander> OK
[08:07] <Gentoon> man wtf
[08:07] <daba> angelo: they are not actually on the site, you would have to get the packages from somewhere, there is a list of which are needed, maybe in the backports, let me see.
[08:08] <daba> angelo: &, yeah, they work:-/
[08:08] <Naveg> goldfish: i have no internet access, and need to get ndiswrapper up to use my wireless card
[08:08] <angelo> o man....
[08:08] <angelo> i'm best :D
[08:08] <JOEL> pestilence, Gnome-screenshot ,dosent work
[08:08] <angelo> sorry, but i'm newbie
[08:08] <goldfish> Naveg: Oh right.
[08:08] <angelo> i didn't know...
[08:08] <Gentoon> man sound
[08:08] <pestilence> Gentoon: No manual entry for wtf
[08:09] <Gentoon> lol
[08:09] <Naveg> goldfish: any ideas? i have the ndiswrapper source on a floppy, so i can compile it if i somehow get the linux headers etc....
[08:09] <Naveg> goldfish: the required packages arent on the livecd though
[08:09] <goldfish> Naveg: ah :/
[08:09] <goldfish> hmmm.
[08:09] <rg58sma> hii
[08:09] <rg58sma> can i move my /home to another partition????
[08:09] <goldfish> Naveg: can u not plug the laptop onto the ethernet and apt-get it?
[08:10] <mattlacey> rg58sma: you just have to change it in your /etc/fstab, i think
[08:10] <pestilence> JOEL: don't know.  you could install ksnapshot.
[08:10] <marky> pestilence: i've download that rc.firewall
[08:10] <Gentoon> this is a weird prob
[08:10] <Gentoon> all i want is sound to work
[08:10] <pestilence> JOEL: but that might involve installing a large part of kde
[08:10] <Gentoon> lets try this
[08:10] <JOEL> ksnapshot is for kde i belive...
[08:10] <marky> pestilence: is it just 71.3 KB ?
[08:10] <rg58sma> ok
[08:10] <rg58sma> thanks
[08:10] <JOEL> yea
[08:11] <Naveg> goldfish: i would if i could
[08:11] <goldfish> Naveg: ah i see, sorry.
[08:11] <goldfish> hmm.
[08:11] <Naveg> goldfish, i'm on a desktop a few floors about my router
[08:11] <J0el> neways how do i update the packages i have?
[08:11] <goldfish> Naveg: Right.
[08:11] <J0el> apt-get -- ?
[08:11] <goldfish> J0el: apt-get upgrade ?
[08:11] <J0el> oh ok
[08:11] <daba> angelo, how do you get a nick for gadu?
[08:12] <angelo> you must register, then you be have a number...
[08:12] <J0el> after givin that command , iget this
[08:12] <J0el> Reading Package Lists... Done
[08:12] <J0el> Building Dependency Tree... Done
[08:12] <J0el> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[08:12] <J0el> it supposed to retrive the lists right?
[08:12] <angelo> i suggest you, download original gadu-gadu client, then register and then configure kadu...
[08:12] <bystander> J0el: so you are up to date on what you have installed
[08:13] <J0el> but mines a pretty old version
[08:13] <J0el> its the warty hedgehog one
[08:13] <rg58sma> how to kill an aplication
[08:13] <rg58sma> ??
[08:13] <funky> kill
[08:13] <funky> man kill, man killall
[08:13] <angelo> click close :P
[08:13] <pestilence> J0el: you have to change your /etc/apt/sourcs.list to upgrade to hoary
[08:13] <lok> killall nameofapp or kill -9 PID
[08:13] <goldfish> Naveg: Suppose you'll have to build from source, but i'm just a newb really, dunno about what kernel headers..  etc.. you'll ned.
[08:13] <bystander> J0el: if you want a full update, try sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[08:13] <goldfish> *need
[08:14] <gentoon> hrm
[08:14] <J0el> im on dial-up how long wud hat take me?
[08:14] <J0el> that*
[08:14] <devinjd> anyone know anything about getting the master volume to work?
[08:14] <gentoon> sound is there when i reset but no volume icon
[08:14] <bystander> J0el: too long
[08:14] <pestilence> a long long time :)
[08:14] <J0el> lol i guessed :\
[08:14] <bystander> J0el: stick with warty until you get a hoary disc
[08:14] <J0el> well my music player wont work either ,it says mp3 plugin not installed
[08:15] <gentoon> man there has to a better mp3 player out there
[08:15] <gentoon> one that can scan dir's
[08:15] <J0el> bystander i need some music! :|
[08:15] <goldfish> mp3blaster is the best one.
[08:15] <jode> can someone help me?
[08:15] <goldfish> ITS COMMAND LINE!
[08:15] <bystander> J0el: sudo apt-get install gstreamer0.8-mad
[08:15] <shawarma> gentoon, How about rhythmbox?
[08:15] <J0el> hrm k ill try that
[08:15] <gentoon> it looks so bad
[08:15] <rg58sma> how to kill an aplication??
[08:15] <goldfish> devinjd: tried alsamixer?
[08:15] <bystander> J0el: that will allow playing mp3 with music player
[08:15] <shawarma> jode, just ask your question.
[08:15] <IIIEars> J0el - Hoary is a large step forward.
[08:15] <goldfish> rg58sma: open a terminal, 'killall nameOfapp'
[08:15] <J0el> oh ok
[08:16] <J0el> uhuh k k
[08:16] <angelo> my ubuntu didn't see a ntfs partitions :( why ?
[08:16] <J0el> ive ordered the cds ,just hopin to get them
[08:16] <J0el> :\
[08:16] <devinjd> goldfish: yeah, everything looks okay...all sound works, i just want to be able to control my volume w/o having to use PCM
[08:16] <synd> J0el, i ordered CDs over a month ago.. ive yet to get them
[08:16] <nac1515> does anyone know a mp3player, that supports library like winamp does?
[08:17] <jode> I am trying to install JRE, and when I put in the commands it saysno such file or directory can be found". I have the file on my desktop
[08:17] <synd> nac1515, XMMS
[08:17] <goldfish> nac1515: xmms ?
[08:17] <nac1515> doesnt have library
[08:17] <J0el> Bystander on doing aptget ......
[08:17] <goldfish> or beep-media-player ?
[08:17] <J0el> i get
[08:17] <J0el> Reading Package Lists... Done
[08:17] <J0el> Building Dependency Tree... Done
[08:17] <J0el> E: Couldn't find package gstreamer0.8-mad
[08:17] <marky> rg58sma: run winamp via Wine :)
[08:17] <mof> angelo, did you edit your fstab ?
[08:17] <goldfish> J0el: Have you added the extra repositories?
[08:17] <nac1515> ok, thx
[08:17] <mephi> hi, where can i find germanspeaking ubuntu channel?
[08:17] <bystander> J0el: you need the universe repo
[08:17] <bystander> ! restricted
[08:17] <synd> nac1515, Winamp Classic and XMMS is quite alike. unless you are talking about winamp 5
[08:17] <ubotu> I heard restricted is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats
[08:17] <angelo> mof, no
[08:17] <bystander> J0el: read the bot's URL
[08:18] <bystander> ubotu
[08:18] <J0el> goldfish , bystander pls xplain i dont undertand :|
[08:18] <marky> rg58sma: run Winamp via Wine
[08:18] <mof> angelo, you have to
[08:18] <nac1515> i dont know abour winamp3 but i know 3 suppports a library function, that i cant find on xmms
[08:18] <mof> any experiences with linux ?
[08:18] <angelo> how ? [very newbie...]
[08:18] <rg58sma> what???
[08:18] <gentoon> shawarma, rhytm box after i tell it the dir my music is in, it adds like 10 files and just hangs saying it is loading music
[08:18] <rg58sma> fir what??
[08:18] <Pop_pa_FrEaK> gentoon, I use amarok myself
[08:19] <marky> rg58sma: wrong person, sorry >_<"
[08:19] <J0el> i hope , the nxt ubuntu is a lil less trouble :\
[08:19] <goldfish> J0el: www.ubuntuguide.org
[08:19] <devinjd> i use Crossover office to run iTunes
[08:19] <J0el> hmm
[08:19] <devinjd> works well
[08:19] <bystander> amarok is currently the most sophisticated player
[08:19] <goldfish> J0el: Go to addinig repositories section.
[08:19] <synd> J0el, hoary is no touble for most
[08:19] <mof> ok, open the /etc/fstab with an editor (gedit) as root or sudo gedit from terminal
[08:19] <synd> devinjd, ??
[08:19] <mephi> is there only this channel on freenode irc ??
[08:19] <mof> do it
[08:19] <J0el> uhuh , here i cant even configure wine
[08:19] <Pop_pa_FrEaK> J0el, ubuntu is the easiest distro I've found so far and I've used alot fo them
[08:19] <emrysk> #ubuntu-devel exists, too
[08:19] <J0el> i have either this missing or that
[08:19] <bystander> mephi: hah - there are hundreds
[08:19] <mephi> my list command doesent work
[08:20] <mephi> im looking for german ubuntu channel :)
[08:20] <marky> is there a guide how to build an ubuntu based server ?
[08:20] <devinjd> synd, it's kind of slow and it's not free but it gets the job done nonetheless
[08:20] <bystander> #ubuntu-de
[08:20] <mephi> thx
[08:20] <Eliteforce> hmm i always have to start synaptic 2 times! the first time it "works" and disappears then, on the second start it works well!
[08:20] <marky> the forum say i'll find it in how to's ?
[08:20] <devinjd> i can run Office applications w/ it too
[08:20] <angelo> mof - ok, what now ?
[08:20] <hans__> is there a way to connect to the internet via usb?
[08:20] <synd> devinjd, what do you have it running on (specs)
[08:20] <mof> did open it as root ?
[08:20] <reagleBRKLN> i can't install juk. Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/libt/libtunepimp/libtunepimp-bin_0.3.0-2ubuntu5_i386.deb  Size mismatch
[08:20] <goldfish> marky: check ubuntulinux.org maybe... might find something in the wiki section....
[08:21] <reagleBRKLN> why would it fail?
[08:21] <angelo> yep
[08:21] <danboid> Why is it that I can only sometimes write to my USB pendrive under kubuntu Hoary?
[08:21] <rg58sma> ok
[08:21] <rg58sma> cant i move mi /home directoru to another partition??
[08:21] <marky> goldfish: i've search through it..
[08:21] <rg58sma> how to??
[08:21] <goldfish> marky: hmmm ...
[08:21] <mof> which partition is your ntfs os
[08:21] <marky> goldfish: just find, how to install server on low end machine, but ..
[08:22] <devinjd> synd, im running an AthlonXP-M 1.8Ghz, 512MB RAM
[08:22] <marky> goldfish: no firewall or DNS etc
[08:22] <marky> goldfish: i've mailed the writer but no replies :(
[08:22] <danboid> what are the correct fstab/mtab settings for a USB pendrive, or is there a script to vanquish all my hoary drive woes in one?
[08:22] <goldfish> marky: i see, well, you could set up itables, to firewall..
[08:22] <devinjd> now if only i could find out a way to get my master volume to work...
[08:23] <marky> goldfish: iptables?
[08:23] <synd> devinjd, is crossover in the apt? (sorry, id check but im at work and not on my ubuntu machine)
[08:23] <lonewolff> hey, has anyone managed to get a ati M7 (mobility radeon 7500) to have working tv out?
[08:23] <reagleBRKLN> i can't install juk. Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/libt/libtunepimp/libtunepimp-bin_0.3.0-2ubuntu5_i386.deb  Size mismatch. why would it fail in this way?
[08:23] <goldfish> marky: yeah....
[08:23] <marky> goldfish: someone tell me to use the rc.firewall  (http://projectfiles.com/firewall/)
[08:24] <angelo> mof - i have hda - ext3, discette and cd-rom, there are no ntfs...
[08:24] <hans__> is there a way to connect to the internet with an usb cable instead of a network cable??
[08:24] <mof> angelo, in terminal --> sudo fdisk -l
[08:24] <marky> goldfish: well, i've just install it and i don't know how to configure itu >_<"
[08:24] <devinjd> synd, no it's a third-party app by codeweavers
[08:24] <humanprototype> erm
[08:24] <humanprototype> i cant actually login
[08:24] <marky> goldfish: it's just a script maybe (>70 KB file)
[08:25] <synd> devinjd, ah i see.
[08:25] <goldfish> marky: yeah, u edit the script, put in your rules...
[08:25] <goldfish> marky: I've not used it myself, might be a howto on the forums...
[08:25] <angelo> i write - nothing is doo...
[08:25] <humanprototype> can somebody help? my computer cant read my /home/harry/.ICEauthentication file (i think thats its name)
[08:26] <humanprototype> and therefore i cant login - im currently running on live cd
[08:26] <synd> devinjd, do you use the standard version of crossover office?
[08:26] <marky> goldfish: my... you're right, i forget to edit it
[08:26] <bystander> humanprototype: remove the file and login again - and don't run apps as root in X
[08:26] <mof> with sudo ?
[08:26] <devinjd> synd, yes
[08:26] <marky> goldfish: i thinked that's an executable file, so can't be edited ^^;
[08:26] <ante> Sometimes when I install packages Synaptic asks for the ubuntu cd... why?
[08:26] <goldfish> marky: hmmm.
[08:26] <humanprototype> bystander: is that what does it? running apps as root?
[08:26] <goldfish> marky: have a google ono how to set it up maybe...
[08:26] <goldfish> *on
[08:26] <bystander> ante: comment the Cd out in /etc/apt/sources.list
[08:26] <[koji] > ante: is it in your repo?
[08:26] <mof> angelo, sudo fdisk -l
[08:26] <humanprototype> ante: the ubuntu cd has packages on it so it counts as a source
[08:27] <marky> goldfish: no no, i mean, it can be edited
[08:27] <angelo> i have
[08:27] <synd> devinjd, the main thing i want to know is.. does the crossover office itunes support LAN sharing of music?
[08:27] <angelo> ok i have some list of partition tables
[08:27] <marky> goldfish: i just forget :))
[08:27] <angelo> what now ?
[08:27] <bystander> humanprototype: changes the owbership of the file
[08:27] <goldfish> marky: ah right..
[08:27] <marky> goldfish: thanx anyway
[08:27] <bystander> *ownership
[08:27] <mof> where is your ntfs
[08:27] <ante> Humanpro. ok thanks.. just wondered..
[08:27] <Zoohouse> How do I tell apt to also download 32bit packages?
[08:27] <humanprototype> bystander: ok, thanks, where can i find the file im m on live cd or will i have to login using the terminal?
[08:27] <amadeus> Can not load module snd_cd4236. Someone Crystal 4237B running?
[08:27] <daba> ante: there is a file that tells apt-get/synaptic where to download files from, the file is at /etc/apt/sources.list the first line in it is the CD likely, and if you put a # in front of it then it will not look there any more.
[08:27] <mof> angelo, /dev/hda?
[08:27] <synd> devinjd, i have all my music on another Mac within my network and would love to be able to stream music from it to my linux machine
[08:27] <devinjd> synd, yes it does, it's just like in windows...im not sure about iPod support but I do know for a fact that I can see my friends library from it
[08:28] <Eliteforce> hmm i always have to start synaptic 2 times! the first time it "works" and disappears then, on the second start it works well!
[08:28] <bystander> humanprototype: in a terminal, do sudo rm ~/.ICEauthority
[08:28] <synd> devinjd, oh, nice!
[08:28] <humanprototype> can I just "sudo chown harry /home/harry/.ICEauthntication"
[08:28] <angelo> yep, i have dev/hda from 1 to 9
[08:28] <ante> daba.. Synaptic doesnt ask for my cd all the time.. just sometimes
[08:28] <bystander> humanprototype: yes, that should do it too
[08:28] <ante> its not a problem for me.. I just wondered why
[08:28] <humanprototype> bystander: ok, then will it auto create a new one when I login?
[08:28] <mof> and which of them is ntfs
[08:28] <bystander> humanprototype: chown harry:harry
[08:28] <synd> devinjd, cnet predicts that apple might write an itunes for linux, although i highly doubt they would do that.
[08:28] <bystander> humanprototype: yup
[08:29] <runedude> I have a question, what's Breezy?
[08:29] <humanprototype> bystander: ok, brilliant - ill try chowning it if not it can go in the bin, thanks
[08:29] <angelo> mof - hda1, hda 5,6,7,8
[08:29] <daba> ante: anyhow, this is my sources.list, it has all the ubuntu places where to look for files: www.mts.net/~danb/sources.list and, it does it sometimes cause other times it has teh files on the net...some are only on the cd cause you probably do not have all the repositories enabled.
[08:29] <humanprototype> runedude: the next version of ubuntu
[08:29] <runedude> oh, is it out?
[08:29] <bystander> humanprototype: just blow it away - it's easier :)
[08:29] <humanprototype> runedude: not yet, but in less than 6 months...
[08:29] <humanprototype> bystander: ok, cool, thanks
[08:30] <runedude> oh, then how come it says "dont use it"
[08:30] <devinjd> synd, yeah that seems highly doubtful...a linux native iTunes would be great though
[08:30] <ante> daba I have all enabled except the security repositories
[08:30] <humanprototype> right, im off then, thanks bystander, ill be back if it all goes wrong...
[08:30] <daba> maybe some from there are on the cd then...
[08:30] <devinjd> synd, Rhythmbox just doesnt cut it
[08:30] <bystander> runedude: because it is broken in weird and wonderful ways
[08:30] <mof> angelo, under 'ID' are some figures
[08:30] <daba> ivoks.
[08:30] <devinjd> synd, although it is a baby step in the right direction
[08:30] <ante> ok
[08:31] <angelo> somethink like 7 or 83 ?
[08:31] <runedude> but if you cant download breezy, then.. how come err.. they say not to use it?
[08:31] <Juhaz> just as great as the windows "native" version, which royally sucks?
[08:31] <angelo> and f
[08:31] <bystander> runedude: I told you
[08:31] <Zoohouse> How do I tell apt to also download 32bit packages?
[08:31] <runedude> how do you download it?
[08:31] <J0el> Yo, goldfish im on the last step
[08:31] <bystander> runedude: it's early in the release cycle still
[08:31] <runedude> oh
[08:31] <runedude> you cant try it out on a spare box?
[08:31] <J0el> well i get an error
[08:31] <J0el> root@DaBOX:/ # gpg --armour --export 1F41B907 |  apt-key add -
[08:31] <J0el> bash: apt-key: command not found
[08:31] <J0el> gpg: [stdout] : write error: Broken pipe
[08:31] <J0el> gpg: [stdout] : write error: Broken pipe
[08:31] <J0el> gpg: iobuf_flush failed on close: file write error
[08:31] <mof> angelo, yes
[08:32] <bystander> runedude: DON't use breezy unless you enjoy pain
[08:32] <ante> I must say I love everythiong about beep-player!
[08:32] <mof> maybe 87 or 86
[08:32] <runedude> i do enjoy pain :)
[08:32] <rg58sma> someone knows a good server to create my webpage free??
[08:32] <synd> devinjd, for sure. I dont do downloading music with my linux machines (i have all my music on one Mac, and use that to download). All i really* care about is being able to stream that music from that Mac to my Linux boxes. I know rendezvous is supported because I have an apple airport express wireless router and all my linux boxes detect and print wirelessly.
[08:32] <ante> much much better looking than xmms =)
[08:32] <J0el> what am i doing wrong?
[08:32] <trig_> hello
[08:32] <Zoohouse> rg58sma: Apache
[08:32] <angelo> 83, f, 7, what now ?
[08:32] <bystander> J0el: for a start, please don't paste in the channel
[08:32] <synd> Juhaz, iTunes does not suck.
[08:32] <Juhaz> synd, yes it does
[08:32] <trig_> has anyone here used cinelerra on ubuntu
[08:32] <mof> angelo, what is under 'System' ?
[08:33] <rg58sma> ok
[08:33] <synd> Juhaz, explain
[08:33] <J0el> bystander ,sorry abt that
[08:33] <J0el> i wont again.
[08:33] <rg58sma> but where is the direction'
[08:33] <angelo> hpfs/ntfs or ext3
[08:33] <devinjd> synd, yeah you should definitely check out this program then...
[08:33] <Zoohouse> How do I install a deb file I just downloaded?
[08:33] <Zoohouse> apt-get install <path> ?
[08:33] <mof> show the line with ntfs
[08:33] <agent> Zoohouse, or dpkg -i <path>
[08:33] <runedude> bystander: where can I get breezy?
[08:33] <bystander> Zoohouse: sudo dpkg -i <package>
[08:33] <agent> Zoohouse, and remember to use sudo :D
[08:33] <Juhaz> synd, it's slow as hell and doesn't work like it should on the platform, not to mention ugly
[08:34] <Zoohouse> thanx
[08:34] <bystander> runedude: don't
[08:34] <runedude> bystander: let me, pleasee:)
[08:34] <runedude> I just want to try it.
[08:34] <devinjd> Juhaz, what is it that iTunes is lacking?
[08:34] <synd> Juhaz, itunes ran quite well when i used windows back on my Celeron 1.7 512DDR
[08:34] <runedude> I can always remove it, and im gonna put it on a shitty box
[08:34] <angelo> mof - /dev/hda5             511<PHONE_NUMBER>+   7  HPFS/NTFS
[08:34] <bystander> runedude: then take your quest to the Great Google
[08:34] <runedude> bystander: ok
[08:34] <synd> Juhaz, and how should it "work like it should on the platform"
[08:35] <synd> ?
[08:35] <we2by> runedude, u on Ubuntu too?
[08:35] <mof> angelo, is xp the first os you installed on your machine ?
[08:35] <runedude> we2by: windows atm, but im using a ubuntu server
[08:35] <angelo> yep, second ubuntu
[08:36] <runedude> bystander: i can just apt-get update to new packages for breezy, or do I have to redownload?
[08:36] <Zoohouse> I get this error: "package architecture (i386) does not match system (amd64)"  So I cant install 32bit apps on my 64bit box?
[08:36] <mof> what is the line after /dev/hda1
[08:36] <Zoohouse> im sure there is a way
[08:36] <zkruw> anyone know how to reset the mysql password if you dosent know it :)?
[08:36] <Juhaz> synd, are you trying to, with a poker face, claim to me that iTunes (and qt, with which it shares the alienity) does not feel out of the place on win32?
[08:36] <humanprototype> bystander: it worked! Thanks. How do I avoid doing it? Is it just not running any programs as root?
[08:36] <humanprototype> lalalalalala
[08:36] <angelo> mof - /dev/hda2             511        4854    34893180    f  W95 Ext'd (LBA)
[08:37] <Zoohouse> zkruw: Someone might know at #Mysql
[08:37] <mof> hda1 angelo
[08:37] <synd> devinjd, one day i was in here and this guy was bashing itunes and i was like whats bad about it? and he replied "you can only play music you buy from the iTunes music store on iTiune"
[08:37] <bystander> humanprototype: pretty much : or changing users in general
[08:37] <synd> iTunes(
[08:37] <synd> devinjd, i just said "i rest my case" after that
[08:37] <devinjd> synd, hahaha
[08:37] <humanprototype> bystander: does that mean I cant "sudo gedit /etc/samba/smb.conf" or edit stuff like that?
[08:37] <angelo> /dev/hda1   *           1<PHONE_NUMBER>+   7  HPFS/NTFS
[08:37] <angelo> [sorry :)]
[08:37] <devinjd> synd, so he wasnt too bright i take it
[08:37] <mof> this is your xp
[08:37] <Zoohouse> How can I install a 32bit package in my 64bit box?
[08:38] <synd> devinjd, apparently not, haha.
[08:38] <bystander> humanprototype: you can, but it's better to do "gksudo gedit"
[08:38] <raDeon> wtf i come home from school
[08:38] <humanprototype> bystander: whats the gksudo do?
[08:38] <raDeon> and my xchat tab for this channel is always blue
[08:38] <ante> Zoohouse... I think you can do it without any problems
[08:38] <angelo> mof yep
[08:38] <mof> angelo, now in terminal 'sudo mkdir /mnt/windows
[08:38] <raDeon> you fuckers are always talking about me behind my back!
[08:38] <angelo> ok
[08:38] <bystander> humanprototype: graphical pasword dialog
[08:38] <bystander> *password
[08:38] <Fator_Dee> raDeon: ZOMG1 :-o hows that possible!
[08:38] <humanprototype> bystander: so its safe to use gksudo where needed but not just sudo?
[08:38] <bystander> humanprototype: ffs - try it and see !
[08:38] <raDeon> don't mess with me factor, i'll bus you up
[08:39] <bystander> humanprototype: heh
[08:39] <angelo> ok, i done it
[08:39] <angelo> what now ?
[08:39] <Zoohouse> ante: I get this error when running 'dpkg -i': package architecture (i386) does not match system (amd64)
[08:39] <Fator_Dee> raDeon: hah
[08:39] <humanprototype> bystander: ok, cool, thanks for the help
[08:39] <mof> sudo gedit & and open /etc/fstab
[08:39] <gentoon> oot@Gentoon:/home/gentoon # esd
[08:39] <gentoon> ALSA lib pcm_direct.c:203:(make_local_socket) connect failed: /tmp/alsa-dmix-11346-1117736493-156058: Connection refused
[08:39] <gentoon> ALSA lib pcm_dmix.c:898:(snd_pcm_dmix_open) unable to connect client
[08:39] <klaym> anyone have gepolabo installed on ubuntu?
[08:39] <bystander> humanprototype: ;-)
[08:39] <synd> Juhaz, of course it feels "out of place". if you remember back when the iPod was first released, it was a Mac only gadget. but the success of the iPod had windows users screaming for windows compatible iPod, so therefore they ported iTunes over to windows.
[08:39] <thenostradamus> u have to get the 65-bit package
[08:39] <gentoon> man my sound is screwed
[08:39] <thenostradamus> 64**
[08:40] <devinjd> so like, does anyone know how to get the master volume control to work? only PCM works for me
[08:40] <synd> Juhaz, iTunes was not written for the primitive win32, it was written for OS X.
[08:40] <angelo> ok, what now ?
[08:40] <gentoon> anyoe good with sound stuff?
[08:40] <ante> Zoohouse.. aha.. thought you could install 32bit software on 64 systems..
[08:40] <angelo> copy line with os xp ?
[08:40] <Zoohouse> :(
[08:40] <ante> Zoohouse..  dont think I can help u though
[08:40] <Juhaz> synd, iPod is it's own gadget, it doesn't need to be compatible with any other interface because it doesn't run in the middle of them
[08:40] <dockane> does anyone know a vectorbased drawing app ?
[08:41] <bystander> dockane: inkscape
[08:41] <synd> Juhaz, you're missing my point.
[08:41] <Zoohouse> ante: All I want to do is install libdvdcss
[08:41] <Juhaz> synd, no, I'm not, just I disagree
[08:41] <synd> Juhaz, iTunes was not designed for win32. nuff said
[08:41] <ante> Zoohouse.. ok.. and Synaptic doesnt work?
[08:41] <dockane> bystander, will have a look. thnx.
[08:41] <Juhaz> indeed it was not. which is why it sucks on win32. nuff said.
[08:41] <synd> Juhaz, lol
[08:41] <mof> angelo, no -- this < /dev/hda1  /mnt/windows  ntfs  auto,defaults  0 0 >
[08:42] <eliteforce> hi
[08:42] <Juhaz> and it would not be designed for linux either, and would suck there as well
[08:42] <Zoohouse> ante: nope. I have all the repos that ubuntuguide.org says
[08:42] <ante> hmm ok.. sry I cant help u
[08:42] <angelo> :>:>:>
[08:42] <Zoohouse> ante: i do a search and dont find the file
[08:42] <bystander> Zoohouse: try libdvdcss2
[08:42] <mof> angelo, done ?
[08:43] <synd> Juhaz, just the fact that an App was not first designed for a certain OS, does not mean it sucks simply because of that.
[08:43] <Zoohouse> bystander: tried that also
[08:43] <bkinman> anyone here familiar with configuring mysql in ubuntu? i cant for the life of me connec tas user bkinman
[08:43] <ante> maybe if I had a 64bits system I would know better .. sorry
[08:43] <angelo> ok, i've done
[08:43] <angelo> what now ?
[08:43] <gentoon> bloody sound
[08:43] <gentoon> can someone help me get my sound back
[08:43] <Zoohouse> bystander, ante: I see the file here: http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/dists/hoary-extras/restricted/binary-i386/ but not in the 64bit section
[08:43] <gentoon> i cant kill esd and i cant start it
[08:43] <angelo> yep
[08:43] <Juhaz> synd, that in itself would not, but the fact that it wasn't adapted in the slightest to fit in usually does
[08:43] <Juhaz> synd, if I'd want to run OS X, I'd run OS X, I DON'T want other people to decide whether or not my desktop is "primitive" and "help" the situation by populating it with something that looks and behaves totally different that everything else
[08:44] <eliteforce> strange my eyes start hurting after a few hours sitting in front of my ubuntu ^^ if i look at the monitor from 10cm distance i can see it "flicker" a bit
[08:44] <bystander> Zoohouse: ah 64 bit - I don't know if there is a libdvdcss for that
[08:44] <gentoon> synd, have any ideas bout mah sound?
[08:44] <Zoohouse> bystander: i dont think so, but why wouldn't I be able to install the 32bit one?
[08:44] <angelo> mof - anything alse ?
[08:44] <mof> angelo, save it and then sudo mount /mnt/windows
[08:44] <angelo> ok
[08:44] <danb> gentoon: shunae thadabin 'soond' laddae? :)
[08:44] <bystander> Zoohouse: you would need a chroot (this isn't windows XP)
[08:45] <angelo> ok, ive done
[08:45] <synd> Juhaz, i can name a billion apps that are avail for win32 that "looks and behaves" totally different than everything else.
[08:45] <Zoohouse> bystander: what do you mean?
[08:45] <gentoon> danb, what?
[08:45] <danb> I'm looking for a sum1 moderately experienced avec fstab unt mtab pleez!
[08:45] <marky> eliteforce : same here
[08:45] <mof> angelo, do you see your xp
[08:45] <bystander> Zoohouse: google "linux amd64 chroot debian ubuntu"
[08:45] <eliteforce> marky: it makes me sick! :)
[08:45] <synd> Juhaz, youre too hung up on the design interface of iTunes, thats all.
[08:46] <shawarma> danb, What's the problem?
[08:46] <Juhaz> synd, I never claimed those apps don't suck just as much
[08:46] <marky> eliteforce: lol
[08:46] <danb> gentoon: sounded like you were going for faux scottish so I was suggesting improvements
[08:46] <shawarma> danb, And speek pr0p3rly pleez.
[08:46] <ante> I wish there were some nice skins for Gaim out there.. =(
[08:46] <angelo> mof - theoritecally....but i can enter into the folder...
[08:46] <marky> eliteforce: my monitor actually can go up to 72 Hz but i can't make it here on ubuntu
[08:46] <gentoon> I just want a sound server
[08:46] <gentoon> one that works
[08:46] <synd> Juhaz, how exactly does iTunes suck so bad? besides your opinion that its "ugly"
[08:46] <marky> eliteforce: in windows, no prog
[08:46] <marky> eliteforce: in windows, no problem
[08:47] <eliteforce> marky: hehe i have a tft with 60 hz
[08:47] <angelo> write "can acces the folder" or something...
[08:47] <djp> can somebody tell how to set a script to run at boot time?
[08:47] <eliteforce> marky: and on windows this 60hz look good
[08:47] <eliteforce> really good
[08:47] <marky> eliteforce: my... tft
[08:47] <ante> I could never stand such bad resolution frequency!
[08:47] <marky> eliteforce: it is your eyes maybe lol :))
[08:48] <djp> the script i want to setup is mentioned here http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=34740&page=1&pp=10&highlight=bluetooth
[08:48] <mof> angelo, append in fstab after 'defaults' umask=0000 like this     <defauts,umask=0000>
[08:48] <eliteforce> marky: haha ;)
[08:48] <pestilence> lcd's and crt's don't work the same way.
[08:48] <devinjd> synd, Juhaz, iTunes is different, that's what makes it a great media library...i mean, look at the other things out there: WMP, Winamp 5, Realplayer, MMJB...they all have design and implementation quirks that iTunes does not have
[08:48] <danb> OK, so when I delete the entrys in mtab/fstab for my flash drive, reboot, plug in drive, a new entry appears in mtab and the drive is being mounted ro when I want rw. Whaddya do??
[08:48] <angelo> mof ok
[08:48] <marky> eliteforce: do you know where to edit the conf files so i can set it 72 Hz
[08:49] <marky> eliteforce: i'm getting sick see this 60 Hz thing >_<"
[08:49] <synd> Juhaz, smart playlists, party shuffle, wireless streaming to a home stereo, integrated internet radio, library sharing within LAN, ability to burn CD/MP3 CD/Data CDs
[08:49] <eliteforce> it doesnt matter if crt's or tft's dont work the same way, but the monitor should work on win / ubuntu the same way
[08:49] <pestilence> a crt at 60 Hz will hurt your eyes.  a LCD at 60 Hz should work fine.
[08:49] <eliteforce> marky: xorg.conf
[08:49] <synd> Juhaz, theres tons of shit iTunes does that winamp cannot touch
[08:49] <angelo> i enter into the folder with console...
[08:49] <eliteforce> ok lcd, whatsoever
[08:49] <angelo> but i can't enter with graphics interface....
[08:49] <Juhaz> synd, as already stated, it looks and feels totally different, if you can't believe that might be sufficient reason for someone, well, that's up to you
[08:49] <{JuNk}Phreak> anyone running ubuntu amd64 and installed enemy territory ?
[08:49] <Juhaz> and it _was_ slow, perhaps it's better now
[08:49] <pestilence> eliteforce: what is wrong with in ubuntu?
[08:50] <eliteforce> i mean the rectangle where u can see the mouse and the other stuff on my notebook :D
[08:50] <mof> angelo, now in terminal <sudo mount -a>
[08:50] <marky> pestilence: the 60 Hz monitor hehehehehe
[08:50] <Juhaz> the first released version took better part of a second to switch a track on 2200+
[08:50] <angelo> ok
[08:50] <synd> Juhaz, yeah, and linux looks and feels totally different from windows. but i think we all here agree that linux kicks windows ass.
[08:50] <eliteforce> pestilence: the screen "flickers"
[08:51] <eliteforce> but you hardly can see that
[08:51] <marky> eliteforce: where's the location
[08:51] <marky> eliteforce: iv
[08:51] <angelo> ok, what now ? i can enter with console...but with gui no....
[08:51] <eliteforce> marky: man xorg.conf :P
[08:51] <marky> eliteforce: yeah.. but i forget where the file is >_<"
[08:51] <Juhaz> synd, on it's own, yes, but I'm not all that fond of most win32 ports of Linux apps either, they feel alien too, though usually somewhat less so than itunes
[08:51] <devinjd> can anyone help me out with a volume control issue?
[08:52] <eliteforce> marky: rtfm
[08:52] <danb> I'm frankly stunned that no-one here knows how to get a flash drive working properly :(
[08:52] <humanprototype> danb: i just plugged mine in and it worked
[08:52] <mof> angelo, in doubt reboot
[08:52] <marky> eliteforce: i'm reading now...
[08:52] <synd> Juhaz, saying a program sucks just because the way it looks rather than its functionality or usability is quite ignorant.
[08:52] <eliteforce> marky: excellent
[08:53] <danb> human: mine did too, SOMETIMES. Now I can't write jack
[08:53] <angelo> ok, i try
[08:53] <angelo> i also install the kadu...but i don't know where it is :)
[08:53] <humanprototype> synd: I still like all my programs to fit in together so I try to avoid kde apps etc
[08:53] <Juhaz> synd, the feel is significant part of usability, going against every normal rule doesn't exactly make stuff easy to use
[08:53] <pestilence> danb: when you say you can't write, do you mean you copy stuff to the drive, take it to another machine, and it's not there?
[08:53] <danb> human: could you look to see what it says about sda in yr mtab/fstab please?
[08:53] <synd> humanprototype, as do i
[08:54] <eliteforce> does anybody know if there's a utility (no not vim, nano etc. :) ) for configuring the whole! xorg config file?
[08:54] <humanprototype> danb: sure, if you tell me how, im a noob
[08:54] <bystander> Juhaz, synd - #OS-wars please
[08:54] <shawarma> How do you all run ssh-add? From the started programs thing in the session management thing?
[08:54] <synd> bystander, this aint no OS war
[08:54] <mof> angelo, try sudo locate <what you looking for>
[08:54] <bystander> #usability-wars or somewhere else then
[08:54] <eliteforce> marky: did u finally find it? :)
[08:54] <danb> pestilence: I've had it working a few times, copying/deleting files off it under KDE, but most of the time I can mount/read OK but not delete/write
[08:54] <mof> or whereis prog..
[08:55] <humanprototype> can anybody help me with sharing a printer over a network to windowx xp machines?
[08:55] <humanprototype> im already sharing files with samba
[08:55] <pestilence> danb: is it mounted read-only?
[08:55] <pestilence> danb: what kind of filesystem does it carry?
[08:55] <danb> pest: vfat
[08:55] <synd> humanprototype, do you know the IP address of the printer
[08:55] <humanprototype> synd: its a usb printer
[08:56] <marky> eliteforce: i've find it
[08:56] <humanprototype> synd: epson stylus cx 6600 using 6400 drivers under linux
[08:56] <marky> eliteforce: but don't understand which one to edit
[08:56] <IIIEars> danb - are the files writeaable?
[08:56] <danb> pest: I deleted the mtab/fstan entrys for it, but then mtab adds one when I plug it in but as ro
[08:56] <eliteforce> marky: there's only one xorg.conf in /etc/X11 i think :)
[08:57] <angelo> it's working
[08:57] <angelo> :) yupi
[08:57] <marky> eliteforce: well, it's X11R6 here
[08:57] <synd> humanprototype, im not sure how to do that. i know that i have a usb printer connected to my airport wireless router and in Ubuntu's printer settings i have to it detect LAN printers
[08:57] <pestilence> danb: so remount it as rw...
[08:57] <bystander> humanprototype: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/FrequentlyAskedQuestions  and scroll down to sharing printers
[08:57] <synd> humanprototype, and that works for me
[08:57] <danb> IIIears: As I say, I've had it working under Linux but I want it setup so I can plug it in a guarantee it'll be rw, not ro and rw sometimes
[08:58] <marky> eliteforce: nah, it's right
[08:58] <marky> eliteforce: /etc/X11
[08:58] <danb> pest: How can I make sda ALWAYS be mounted rw?
[08:58] <mof> angelo, remember this and learn it
[08:58] <danb> .. whatever I need to do here..
[08:59] <pestilence> danb: well, you can mount it yourself.  that would guarantee it.
[08:59] <eliteforce> marky: yes, but this path stands in the manual entry for xorg.conf
[08:59] <eliteforce> so what did u read?
[08:59] <pestilence> danb: as far as having hal mount it automatically rw, i'm not sure.  you probably have to edit the hal configuration files
[08:59] <humanprototype> bystander: thanks again, i think i made at least some of those changes already
[08:59] <danb> pest: thats crap though,, I want to click on it and have it mounted rw. I've seen this work ya know! :)
[08:59] <marky> eliteforce: i've search in this file, and find VertRefresh
[09:00] <danb> pest: aha! Hal config files! That might be the one
[09:00] <marky> eliteforce: the value is 43-72 --> is this it ?
[09:00] <eliteforce> marky: i  think so
[09:00] <angelo> ok, thanks anyone ! and very thanks to mof
[09:00] <angelo> i must reboot
[09:00] <angelo> bye
[09:00] <mof> yep
[09:01] <pestilence> danb: you can explore the devices that hal knows about by using hal-device-manager
[09:01] <pestilence> that may help you in your quest to find the right settings
[09:01] <humanprototype> dystander: the gksudo gedit thing didnt work but sudo gedit does...?
[09:02] <IIIEars> pestilence - is there a tool or do you edit a flat file for HAL?
[09:02] <pestilence> IIIEars: i don't know of a tool, there could very well be one.  i just edited /etc/hal/ files.
[09:03] <mof> n8 all
[09:04] <bystander> humanprototype: hey, my philosophy is "whatever works for you"
[09:04] <IIIEars> pestilence - never going to miss the windows registry - wide grin
[09:06] <redboar> missing that is like missing winter in Chicago
[09:06] <pestilence> haha
[09:06] <redboar> for me Windows is a necessary evil at this point
[09:07] <pestilence> redboar: i had a dream last night that winter never ended.  boy am i glad i woke up :)
[09:07] <dos000> why do i get "WARNING: The following packages cannot be authenticated!" ?
[09:07] <redboar> yes that is a nightmare then
[09:07] <pestilence> dos000: you need the gpg keys for nerim, mayb
[09:07] <redboar> or u added backports
[09:08] <{JuNk}Phreak> anyone running ubuntu amd64 and installed enemy territory ?
[09:08] <dos000> pestilence, if i repeat apt-get then it gets ok after several time
[09:08] <pestilence> dos000: try apt-get clean
[09:10] <dos000> pestilence, i am still getting it ! note  i upgraded from debian testing to hoary could that be an issue ?
[09:10] <pestilence> dos000: do you have debian sources in your apt/sources.list?
[09:11] <hans__> does anyone know the fritz!box fon wlan 7050?
[09:11] <jer^> :o
[09:11] <Fator_Dee> pestilence: winter is not that bad
[09:11] <dos000> pestilence, no totally .. ijust cut 'n paste from my laptop
[09:11] <we2by> any one has composite working with an ati radeon card with gnome?
[09:12] <drasko> i started some setup.py. It complains:  unable to open /usr/lib/python2.4/config/Makefile (No such file or directory). Is there some package tha i am missing?
[09:12] <pestilence> Fator_Dee: it's not *that bad*.  it's just not *that good* either :)
[09:12] <pestilence> (that good that i would want it year round)
[09:12] <raDeon> WHO THE FUCK CALLED ME
[09:12] <raDeon> WHO
[09:12] <raDeon> WHO
[09:12] <humanprototype> bystander: the wiki didnt help - i had already made the changes and it still doesnt work
[09:12] <Fator_Dee> pestilence: summer has it's problems too
[09:12] <redboar> in chicago winter is terrible
[09:12] <dos000> pestilence, anyway what are the steps to get gpg keys for nerim if you dont mind ?
[09:13] <redboar> it doesn't snow most of the time, it doesn't stay very cold, it just makes u miserable
[09:13] <pestilence> dos000: see http://www.ubuntuguide.org
[09:13] <redboar> I used to live in Phoenix, didn't mind summer
[09:13] <pestilence> dos000: but if you only have official ubuntu repositories in your /etc/apt/sources.list, that is not your problem
[09:14] <we2by> any one has composite working with an ati radeon card with gnome?
[09:14] <raDeon> WHO CALLED ME
[09:14] <raDeon> WHO
[09:14] <redboar> can anyone recommend a Yahoo messenger client *with webcam support*?
[09:15] <IIIEars> gpg --keyserver subkeys.pgp.net --recv-key <keyid> ; gpg --export <keyid> | sudo apt-key add -
[09:15] <redboar> I already have gyach-e
[09:15] <drasko> i started some setup.py. It complains:  unable to open /usr/lib/python2.4/config/Makefile (No such file or directory). Is there some package tha i am missing?
[09:15] <dos000> pestilence, i have not even universe
[09:15] <Sero> Can anyone help me out with changing my sources?
[09:15] <Sero> nilbus.com/pub/linux-office.tgz
[09:16] <Sero> mt
[09:16] <humanprototype> anbody help with sharing a printer with windows machines?
[09:16] <daba> drasko: maybe reading the file could help. the setup.py one, other than that, did you try getting the program you are installing through aptitude?
[09:16] <pestilence> dos000: how about apt-get install ubuntu-keyring?
[09:16] <cmarqu> Hi all. With the xorg-*-ubuntu21 packages from Breezy, only the KP-keys work - the others (all normal keys!) are not even seen in xev. Does anybody know what's up?
[09:16] <dos000> pestilence, i also get this annoying thing on my laptop. however it goes away after a couple tries. but now on the server its still borking. this is kind of worrying !
[09:16] <kman___> hello
[09:17] <kman___> anybody knows why hoary backports don't work ?
[09:17] <IIIEars> LAN Printing XP --  http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/NetworkPrintingFromWinXP
[09:17] <dos000> pestilence, it cant authenticate keyring as well !
[09:17] <synd> kman___, cause they are mirroring them, i believe
[09:17] <bystander> kman___: because they're on crack?
[09:17] <humanprototype> tried it thank - no help unfortunatly
[09:17] <pestilence> right, but install it anyway.
[09:17] <pestilence> dos000: i'm pretty sure that without ubuntu-keyring, it won't authenticate anything :)
[09:18] <synd> humanprototype, i think thats a winxp issue, no?
[09:18] <IIIEars> !ubotu - print server
[09:18] <ubotu> IIIEars: Are you smoking crack?
[09:18] <synd> ubotu, why, yes he is
[09:18] <ubotu> synd: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?
[09:18] <synd> ubotu, hope not
[09:18] <ubotu> synd: Are you smoking crack?
[09:18] <humanprototype> synd it may be i havent a clue
[09:18] <dos000> pestilence, i did apt-get update ; apt-get clean .. and now it seems to work !
[09:19] <pestilence> dos000: good.
[09:19] <synd> bots are cheap forms of entertainmetn
[09:19] <IIIEars> !ubotu printing
[09:19] <ubotu> hmm... printing is see printer
[09:19] <synd> !network
[09:19] <dos000> pestilence, thanks
[09:19] <spunout> anyone know how to get my 1394 working? I seem to have the modules loaded, raw1394 ohci1394 and ieee 1394
[09:20] <bystander> ! printer
[09:20] <redboar> can ne1 recommend a Yahoo messenger client other than gyach with webcam support?
[09:20] <spunout> the ieee1394 says ieee1394 100408 3 raw1394,ohci1394,sbp2, Live 0xf88e7000
[09:20] <spunout> redboar, will gaim work for you?
[09:21] <emacsen> does anyone have a source for flashplugin-nonfree?
[09:21] <redboar> not for webcams
[09:21] <IIIEars> !ubotu learn:"LAN Printing XP --  http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/NetworkPrintingFromWinXP"
[09:21] <ubotu> You are moron #1, IIIEars
[09:21] <bystander> emacsen: it's in multiverse
[09:21] <emacsen> bystander: not in mine...
[09:22] <emacsen> deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary multiverse
[09:22] <dos000> is anyone doing ssh tunnels ? the bummer is stopping me when i try to map multiple remote ssh servers to my localhost port because it saves localhost in the known hosts files !
[09:22] <bystander> apt-cache policy flashplugin-nonfree
[09:22] <emacsen> W: Unable to locate package flashplugin-nonfree
[09:23] <bystander>   Installed: (none)
[09:23] <bystander>   Candidate: 7.0.25-5
[09:23] <spunout> exit
[09:23] <peterretief> whats breezy
[09:23] <emacsen> peterretief: something you shouldn't use :)
[09:23] <bystander> peterretief: /topic
[09:24] <Amaranth> ubotu: LAN Printing XP is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/NetworkPrintingFromWinXP
[09:24] <ubotu> okay, Amaranth
[09:24] <peterretief> whats  the opic
[09:24] <emacsen> bystander: what's your multiverse line in sources?
[09:24] <humanprototype> ubotu: what are you trying to acheive?
[09:24] <ubotu> I think you lost me on that one, humanprototype
[09:24] <humanprototype> ubotu: whats your printer problem?
[09:24] <ubotu> parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about, humanprototype
[09:24] <bystander> emacsen: i have several
[09:24] <peterretief> who wanted something on ssh tunnels?
[09:24] <IIIEars> Thanks Amaranth - The bot has worked really well. - nice. :)
[09:25] <Amaranth> it's not mine
[09:25] <Amaranth> mine worked in the same way for learning and repeating stuff, but no one used it so i got rid of it
[09:25] <emacsen> bystander: well the one flashplugin-nonfree comes from ;)
[09:25] <bystander> emacsen: basically each universe lins has multiverse appended
[09:25] <humanprototype> ubotu: wat are you doing?
[09:25] <bystander> *line
[09:25] <ubotu> humanprototype: okay
[09:26] <bystander> humanprototype: ubotu is the channel bot :)
[09:26] <Amaranth> humanprototype: It's a bot.
[09:26] <Amaranth> ubotu: wat
[09:26] <ubotu> wat are you doing?
[09:26] <Amaranth> damnit
[09:26] <humanprototype> bystander: i worked that out after the second answer, no human can type that quick...
[09:26] <mob_> Lol
[09:26] <Amaranth> ubotu: forget wat
[09:26] <ubotu> Amaranth: i forgot wat
[09:27] <humanprototype> amaranth: did i teach the bot a new word?
[09:27] <Amaranth> humanprototype: I can type 50-70wpm and most of what it said could be done with tab completion so it is possible.
[09:27] <IIIEars> Amaranth - Erm - I am a bit worried.. - Is ubotu protected by a password? - please, please, please, say yes.
[09:27] <Amaranth> humanprototype: Yes, but I made it forget.
[09:27] <Amaranth> IIIEars: Yes.
[09:28] <Amaranth> IIIEars: But everyone can make it learn things, relearn things, and forget things.
[09:28] <humanprototype> amaranth: tab completetion?
[09:28] <Amaranth> If it gets abused it goes.
[09:28] <Amaranth> humanprototype: Type Amar and hit tab.
[09:28] <emacsen> Ah. I see the problem. there's no 64 bit flash?!
[09:28] <humanprototype> Amaranth, sweet
[09:28] <Amaranth> emacsen: Nope. Complain to Macromedia.
[09:28] <IIIEars> Ban listing again please please say yes.
[09:28] <Amaranth> IIIEars: ?
[09:29] <filnev> what are specs for ubuntu?
[09:29] <Amaranth> filnev: specs?
[09:29] <peterretief> spectacls
[09:29] <filnev> meaning what are the minimum requirements?
[09:30] <mob_> filnev: you can see it in the cd :P
[09:30] <Amaranth> filnev: the main thing is RAM
[09:30] <Amaranth> filnev: at least 128MB, 256MB would be much much better
[09:30] <filnev> 32? 64? 128?
[09:30] <filnev> oh
[09:30] <Ali_Baba> i got 1024 ram :)
[09:31] <filnev> thanks
[09:31] <filnev> slackware it is then :)
[09:31] <redboar> why so much RAM required?
[09:31] <we2by> any one has any luck getting composite working with ATI radeon cards?
[09:31] <pestilence> gnome loves memory
[09:31] <filnev> Ive got a dell inspiron 3000 :)
[09:31] <filnev> 32 ram
[09:31] <pestilence> i am sure if you used fluxbox you could get by on 32
[09:31] <peterretief> whats composite i have ati radeon 7200
[09:31] <Amaranth> filnev: X is pretty much unusable with less than 128MB
[09:32] <we2by> looks like it's pain in the ass to get composite working with ati cards
[09:32] <we2by> :(
[09:32] <Amaranth> filnev: You can get away with 64 though, maybe 32 in a pinch if you like to swap.
[09:32] <pestilence> Amaranth: X is usable with far less, it's gnome that needs the ram
[09:32] <humanprototype> filnev, setup ubuntu without gnome (server) then apt-get install fluxbox or some other lighter window manager
[09:32] <peterretief> what is composite
[09:32] <we2by> peterretief, it is window shaow and transparency
[09:32] <sijmen|jme-59> i've read this guide on how to setup ldap, and i've installed all packages, setup all config files.. but how to test whether it works?
[09:32] <we2by> shadow*
[09:32] <filnev> I dont need X on this laptop
[09:32] <bystander> Amaranth: umm - I have a debian box here with fluxbox that hums along on 64MB
[09:32] <peterretief> how to test if its working
[09:32] <Amaranth> bystander: Open Firefox
[09:33] <Amaranth> ok, so it's not X, it's X applications
[09:33] <bystander> Amaranth: heh - i use dillo ;-)
[09:33] <Amaranth> but still, X is pretty useless without X applications
[09:33] <we2by> peterretief, http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-20769.html
[09:33] <humanprototype> you can just deliberatly use lighter applications
[09:33] <pestilence> filnev: i'm not sure if the installer for ubuntu will give you a no-X option, but if it will, just go with it.
[09:33] <humanprototype> it will
[09:33] <humanprototype> type server at the start then press enter
[09:33] <IIIEars> bystander dillo? - you must be an old timer.
[09:33] <humanprototype> it does tell you
[09:34] <pestilence> then there you have it.
[09:34] <bystander> IIIEars: dillo is quite an OK browser for searching and docs etc
[09:34] <mob_> filnev: if you have an old pc, you can just install ubuntu server option
[09:34] <bystander> IIIEars: very fast too
[09:34] <redboar> we2by: thanks that link rocks
[09:35] <peterretief> I just know many will find this useful http://linuxweblog.com/node/282
[09:35] <IIIEars> bystander - true, nice to have a browser when things go wrong.
[09:35] <we2by> redboar, yea, but it doesn't work with ATI cards
[09:35] <Amaranth> IIIEars: w3m!
[09:35] <IIIEars> w3m? - nah elinks :P
[09:35] <redboar> NP I have NVidia :D
[09:36] <drasko> I have proble... ImportError: No module named ogl
[09:36] <filnev> Will it install on a machine with just 32 mb ram?
[09:36] <bystander> IIIEars: links2 run as links -g is worth a look for old boxen too (the -g gives you a graphical browser)
[09:36] <filnev> FC3 will not
[09:36] <redboar> can u turn off anti aliasing in gnome?
[09:36] <IIIEars> hm. - nice
[09:36] <bksea> I need help seeing my Windows Disk
[09:36] <redboar> it gets annoying with a Treinitron monitor
[09:36] <Amaranth> redboar: System->Preferences->Font
[09:37] <redboar> TY
[09:37] <peterretief> the installer should autodetect low mem and revert to a cli
[09:37] <amd664> Hi, everyone.    Don't ask me why but I had edit the grub menu myself to get into my windows 98
[09:54] <Fator_Dee> it's easy though, editing grub
[09:54] <jer^> ive not got any partitions atm anyway
[09:54] <r1der> where is Gftp in the menu ?
[09:54] <jer^> heh
[09:54] <IIIEars> ablyss - Ubuntu snobbery - lol
[09:54] <Fator_Dee> r1der: internet?
[09:54] <r1der> isnt there
[09:54] <ablyss> maybe because i have 3 hard drives and 8+ partitions with 30 Gigs divided equally
[09:54] <Fator_Dee> networking? or something similar
[09:55] <Fator_Dee> or you'r menu has to refresh
[09:55] <r1der> how?
[09:55] <IIIEars> ablyss - yep - darn handy not to keep all of your eggs in one basket. - grin.
[09:55] <bassplayer> what I have to do to add a PATH on linux (i just installed java, and when i run limewire, it says there is no java on the path)
[09:55] <bystander> for the person looking for dos2unix - try the sysutils package which contains "tofromdos" (I think dos2unix is part of that)
[09:55] <Fator_Dee> r1der: kill the panel and it should
[09:55] <ablyss> lol Ears
[09:56] <r1der> is it there after reboot?
[09:56] <Fator_Dee> r1der: it'll start again if you kill it
[09:57] <Fator_Dee> r1der: and if it doesn't for some reason, just run the executable and it'll come up
[09:57] <Fator_Dee> bassplayer: add the path to the java-binary to ~.bash_profile
[09:57] <Fator_Dee> *~/.bash_profile
[09:58] <bassplayer> Fator_Dee - how do i make it ?
[09:58] <Fator_Dee> bassplayer: do you know where your java-binary is?
[09:58] <bassplayer> yeap
[09:58] <Fator_Dee> open up the .bash_profile
[09:59] <bassplayer> with nano ?
[09:59] <Fator_Dee> with any editor you want
[09:59] <bassplayer> ok
[09:59] <Fator_Dee> that doesn't matter
[09:59] <tbrenner> i have a question
[09:59] <tbrenner> yes...a question
[09:59] <Fator_Dee> then, there is a line that starts with "PATH="
[10:00] <tbrenner> my screen rez is horribly large (640 x 480), i'd like to fix this...but i can't seem to get anymore options
[10:00] <bassplayer> ok, let me see
[10:00] <Fator_Dee> bassplayer: add to the end of it ":/path/to/the/directory/where/the/java/binary/is/"
[10:00] <tbrenner> no graphic drivers probably...but are there any options to fixing this?
[10:01] <Fator_Dee> tbrenner: run sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and specify your monitors specs to it
[10:01] <tbrenner> thx
[10:01] <bassplayer> Fator_Dee - hmmm, there's a line that says PATH=~/bin:"${PATH}"
[10:02] <bassplayer> is that ?
[10:02] <Fator_Dee> bassplayer: yup, that's it
[10:02] <bassplayer> in which part do i add it ?
[10:02] <bassplayer> after path ?
[10:02] <Fator_Dee> so it would be like PATH=~/bin:"${PATH}":/directory/to/here/
[10:02] <bksea> Please help.  I cannot figure out what I am doing wrong.  I have followed instructions, and mounted my windows drive, yet the made folder appears empty
[10:02] <bystander> bassplayer: you might have better luck with "sudo gedit /etc/bash.bashrc "
[10:02] <Fator_Dee> bassplayer: you start the new path with :
[10:03] <bassplayer> ok, thanks a lot
[10:03] <bystander> bassplayer: that's the system wide file
[10:03] <pfp> do you have any suggestions for a music library/mp3 player - something like iTunes for the mac?
[10:03] <bassplayer> why bystander ?
[10:04] <bystander> bassplayer: becuse the path in that file applies for all users
[10:04] <bassplayer> ok, i'll try it
[10:05] <muppet> Yeah!! : ifup lo   :)
[10:05] <muppet> thnx guys
[10:06] <bksea> When I try to mount it manually I get, already mounted or busy
[10:07] <cusco> hi
[10:07] <cusco> what happend to backport?
[10:07] <cusco> authorization required
[10:07] <bksea> Can anyone help me with my mounting probleam?
[10:08] <StR34k> hey
[10:08] <StR34k> bksea, depends on the prob.
[10:09] <virogenesis> hi
[10:09] <joe|code> Has anyone requested the Ubuntu disk from the website before?
[10:09] <Tibal> slt y a des francais ?
[10:09] <peterretief> ya
[10:09] <Amaranth> Tibal: #ubuntu-fr
[10:09] <Tibal> merci ! :)
[10:10] <virogenesis> what would you say is the best dvd player for linux?
[10:12] <Fator_Dee> virogenesis: I have an LG-GSA-4120B and it works perfectly
[10:12] <Fator_Dee> that's quite an old model though
[10:13] <Fator_Dee> gah
[10:13] <Fator_Dee> or did you ask a program :-|
[10:13] <pfp> Fator_Dee: ;-)
[10:13] <Hackmo> Can anyone tell me why firefox closes itself when I try to right click and save a file
[10:14] <thoreauputic> Hackmo: are you using breezy ?
[10:14] <pfp> Hackmo: probably it crashes :/
[10:14] <StR34k> it could be tired.
[10:14] <Hackmo> thoreauputic: no i'm using hoary
[10:14] <virogenesis> when i mean player i mean something like mplayer, totem.....
[10:14] <thoreauputic> OK
[10:15] <thoreauputic> virogenesis: I like xine persoanally
[10:15] <pfp> virogenesis: i've been happy with totem
[10:15] <StR34k> virogenesis I use wxvlc
[10:17] <virogenesis> yeah i just tried xine & the actual interface for the gui system reminds me of fluxbox ( i think it was i tried), totem i can't seem to get to work & same goes for mplayer
[10:17] <Ali_Baba> i use kplayer,its good also.
[10:18] <deviant> guys, how can i make a bootable cd using K3b ?
[10:18] <virogenesis> i try to stick to gnome
[10:18] <pfp> totem might need the (deprecated by some) stuff from backports / marillat
[10:18] <virogenesis> StR34k, is wxvlc based on gtk, qt+ or what?
[10:19] <pfp> totem has an almost-sane UI, from a gnome users point of view at least
[10:19] <we2by> any one here have the geforce 6200 card on Ubuntu and working???
[10:19] <cusco> what happend to the backport repo?
[10:19] <cusco> please
[10:19] <cusco> someone?
[10:19] <cusco> authorization required
[10:20] <philipacamaniac> cusco: you have to use one the mirrors
[10:20] <cusco> what do you mean?
[10:20] <thoreauputic> virogenesis: if you like the totem look, use totem-xine (the back end is xine, but hte gui is gtk2)
[10:20] <nova> on kde for ubuntu any reason not to use it?
[10:20] <nova> and can i swap back to gnome or xfce if i decide i dont like it?
[10:21] <nova> with out uninstallign kde
[10:21] <thoreauputic> nova: yes to all
[10:21] <cusco> philipacamaniac: could you pass me the mirrors please?
[10:21] <philipacamaniac> cusco: see this page http://backports.ubuntuforums.org/
[10:21] <thoreauputic> nova: but install kubuntu-desktop, not kde
[10:21] <philipacamaniac> Click on "mirrors"
[10:21] <nova> yeh i know
[10:21] <StR34k> virogenesis, gtk
[10:21] <nova> can i swap between kde and gnome or xfce in sessions menu?
[10:22] <Ali_Baba> nova: yes you can
[10:22] <nova> k
[10:22] <nova> thats all i wanted to know thanks
[10:22] <Kikyo1> Good day everyone
[10:23] <virogenesis> cool
[10:23] <virogenesis> thanks StR34k
[10:23] <Kikyo1> I am planning on purchasing an external HDD, but I was told that firewire is mean when using a GNU/Linux OS.. anyone know if this is true?
[10:23] <StR34k> np
[10:24] <fishie> damn work is boring
[10:24] <fishie> :(
[10:24] <virogenesis> anyone tried  out beagle yet?
[10:24] <deviant> how can i make a bootable cd using K3b ?
[10:24] <StR34k> it will do encoding as well, but I think you have to recompile it to get mp3 support
[10:24] <StR34k> work is rarely enjoyable.
[10:25] <nova> wow lots of files for kubuntu desktop
[10:25] <StR34k> if it was it would be called fun.
[10:25] <fishie> this guy is babbling on about ftp
[10:25] <nova> 162 lol
[10:25] <fishie> i cant log in
[10:25] <fishie> i dont care
[10:25] <StR34k> hehe
[10:25] <Kikyo1> Anyone know of how well firewire would work on Ubuntu?
[10:25] <virogenesis> hehe lots of files for kde :P
[10:26] <carthik> Kikyo1, very well :)
[10:26] <deviant> anyone ?
[10:26] <StR34k> devian I don't know... sorry.
[10:26] <carthik> deviant, what goes in the cd? are you rtying to burn it from an image?
[10:26] <Kikyo1> carthik:  Oh, thanks. :) So that means it would be worth buying an external HDD then?
[10:26] <StR34k> deviant*
[10:26] <carthik> Kikyo1, i have an external hdd connected to my laptop
[10:27] <nova> some times i like a eye candy from hell desk top