[20:39] <OerHeks> snap or flatpack, 2 main streams
[20:39] <debkad> i think i must remove the swap then it let me create one inside the extended partition
[20:41] <ioria> debkad,  you can shrink sda5 ?
[20:42] <ledeni> joe_w, sudo apt-get update & sudo apt-get --reinstall install bcmwl-kernel-source
[20:42] <debkad> ioria: i have some progress, i removed the swap, and shrink the extended, i recreated the swap, no i have to change the fstab or just replace the UUID inside gparted i think
[20:43] <ioria> debkad,  run sudo blkid and edit fstab for swap
[20:44] <debkad> yeah i know that, just this must be done to Antergos too
[20:48] <ioria> debkad,  don't know about Antergos, but you may need to reallocate sda2
[20:49] <debkad> ioria: may be it is not necessary as i set grub from ubuntu , as i can boot it from the grub menu i believe
[20:49] <debkad> time to try :))
[20:49] <debkad> thanks ioria
[20:49] <ioria> debkad,  ok, n
[20:54] <debkad> ioria: still same timing o_o
[20:54] <hhee> guys, there is no seamonkey browser in ubuntu?
[20:55] <ioria> debkad,  oh.... may i suggest a ram upgrade ? :-)
[20:55] <debkad> lol
[20:55] <debkad> ioria: i can't find one :/
[20:55] <EriC^^> andreborda: run a quick search for about 20secs
[20:55] <ioria> debkad, really ?
[20:55] <debkad> yeah
[20:56] <EriC^^> andreborda: take a screenshot of what you see
[20:56] <debkad> as it is old
[20:56] <vsssd> Sup guys. I Have two OS:s and using encryption LUKS. I am using Nvidia drivers but I get a froozen screen when I need to enter my password.  I still haven't found a configuration that allows me to boot/shutdown or suspend/resume correctly
[21:02] <vsssd> yup Nvidia GTX 970
[21:02] <AndChat504> Having to force shutdown my laptop every day is quite saddening
[21:07] <zhar> Hi, how can I use xrandr to change the physical size of a monitor?
[21:08] <bekks> zhar: you cannot change the physical size with software.
[21:08] <bekks> zhar: you can only change the resolution displayed.
[21:08] <vsssd> Sup guys. I Have two OS:s and using encryption LUKS. I am using Nvidia drivers but I get a froozen screen when I need to enter my password. I already tried nomodeset, does not work
[21:08] <vsssd> also tried nvidia nomode 0 and grub gfxmode 1280x1024x24
[21:08] <zhar> bekks, what if the EDID information is wrong?
[21:09] <bekks> zhar: then still nothing but another display will change the size of your display.
[21:09] <bekks> zhar: you can only change the resolution using xrandnr.
[21:09] <bekks> xrandr even.
[21:09] <zhar> bekks, what can I use to change the detected screen size?
[21:10] <vsssd> andchat504
[21:10] <vsssd> https://devtalk.nvidia.com/default/topic/941096/linux/ubuntu-16-nvidia-36x-drivers-black-screen/2
[21:10] <vsssd> We got nothing to lose
[21:10] <vsssd> Gonna try it
[21:11] <bekks> zhar: As I said, xrandr.
[21:12] <zhar> bekks, the resolution is right but the screen look blurry, it is a 23" screen but system settings->displays says it is 7". It is connected with HDMI, if I use DVi it works correctly
[21:12] <bekks> zhar: So use DVI :)
[21:12] <zhar> bekks, dual screen. I have 1 DVI and 1 HDMI. :(
[21:14] <Keydns> anyone willing to get on the phone with me and teach me some shell script
[21:14] <ah_1991> hi new to ubantu just testing
[21:14] <Keydns> anyone willing to get on the phone with me and teach me some shell script
[21:15] <matti> :)
[21:17] <Bashing-om> !manual | ah_1991 Are you aware ? :
[21:17] <AndChat504> vsssd, let me know how that works, I've reinstalled Ubuntu at least 4 times this weekend
[21:18] <blitzcreep> \o
[21:19] <blitzcreep> is there an "official" folder where to put programs that are manually installed / extracted?
[21:20] <blitzcreep> like "programs" in that other mainstram OS?
[21:20] <ObrienDave> blitzcreep, no, this is not the "other OS" ;P
[21:20] <blitzcreep> so where should i put stuff?
[21:21] <ObrienDave> anywhere you like
[21:21] <blitzcreep> what is best practice?
[21:21] <tgm4883> blitzcreep: if they are single file programs and you just want your user to be able to launch them, then put them in ~/bin
[21:21] <ObrienDave> I have a Downloads directory that i use mainly.
[21:22] <Yxven> I'm trying to install lubuntu-desktop from lubuntu-core, but the package manager gets stuck installing anacron. Any ideas what I can do?
[21:22] <blitzcreep> ok
[21:22] <blitzcreep> ill try that :D
[21:22] <ObrienDave> blitzcreep, welcome to Linux :)
[21:23] <Bashing-om> blitzcreep: Consider [;acing the binary in /opt/ directory .
[21:23] <blitzcreep> yeah... 1 month ...only screwed up my setup 4 times to "no boot" :P
[21:23] <blitzcreep> what does "opt" stands for?
[21:24] <ObrienDave> you'll get over that fairly quickly
[21:24] <blitzcreep> yeah, as fast as you can break stuff you can fix it :D
[21:24] <blitzcreep> if you remember what you did wrong (typos in grub settings) :P
[21:25] <kz> need drivers to do format a pc with ubuntu? or it find them all automatically?
[21:25] <ObrienDave> blitzcreep, grub-customizer can help with that
[21:25] <Bashing-om> blitzcreep: We all with that spirit of adventure have done that ... my solution; dual boot such that there is that stable install and the "testing' install .
[21:26] <vagkor> hrllo
[21:26] <nino15>  irc://irc.explosionirc.org/extremo
[21:26] <nino15>  irc://irc.explosionirc.org/extremo
[21:26] <vagkor> i have audio problems with audio
[21:26] <nabblet> hi, is there a package that provides the install wizard one get's with the live images?
[21:26] <blitzcreep> Bashing-om, if you f*ck up your dual boot setting it doesnt matter ;)
[21:26] <nabblet> searching for "install ubuntu packages" and alike is very ambigous ;)
[21:27] <Bashing-om> blitzcreep: Sure it does .. then you learn grub !
[21:27] <zagaza> hey guys, not quite sure where to ask this but.. I tried installing lets encrypt (sudo apt-get install letsencrypt) and apparently it's supposed to be located in /etc/letsencrypt but it's not in there. Any idea how I can locate the folder or maybe remove it and reinstall it?
[21:28] <ObrienDave> zagaza, check your D/L first. then just re-install
[21:28] <vagkor> after installing linux mint i have audio crashes
[21:28] <zagaza> not sure how to check ObrienDave? I'm completely noobish with this ssh stuff
[21:28] <bekks> !mint | vagkor
[21:28] <zagaza> or rather, not sure what you mean by checking it
[21:28] <vagkor> ok thanks
[21:29] <ObrienDave> zagaza, you should have mentioned ssh also. beyond me
[21:29] <zagaza> ah sry
[21:29] <nabblet> I see two packages: live-installer and ubiquity. There is a askubuntu that points me to ubiquity. So what's live-installer then?
[21:30] <blitzcreep> Bashing-om, ^^ i now has tribble boot, even figgured out how to add own icons on burg in the config files :P
[21:30] <nabblet> oh, live-installer installs a live system, while ubiquity installs a "normal" system?
[21:30] <Bashing-om> zagaza: If the file name is " letsencrypt " then the command ' sudo find / -name "letsencrypt*" ' shoumd return where all installed .
[21:33] <zagaza> thanks Bashing-om, gonna try that
[21:34] <zagaza> ah found it in usr/bin but it says in the tutorial it should end up in /etc/letsencrypt.. something I am missing?
[21:37] <karthikeayan> Hi, I am seeing difference in huge page values between the /etc/default/grub file and /proc/meminfo. I have got 107520 in /etc/default/grub file. But /proc/meminfo shows 106856. What can be the reason?
[21:38] <nino15>  irc://irc.explosionirc.org
[21:38] <Bashing-om> zagaza: Have a talk with the author ? . Having the executable in the user space /usr/bin/ is perfectly acceptable . ( echo $PATH )
[21:41] <vsssd> So I have two OS:s and using GRUB N encryption. I also have Nvidia but with PPA drivers I got black scree. Tried nomodeset and nvidia nomode 1, still black screens
[21:41] <vsssd> Any clue guys still?
[21:41] <coppz> Hi guys. I wasnt watching what I was doing while installing OBS and installed the ffmpeg repo (sudo add-apt-repository ppa:kirillshkrogalev/ffmpeg-next) and now everytime I update in console I get loads of stuff saying release file is missing, but I dont even need this repo/ppa. How can I remove this? "E: Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/kirillshkrogalev/ffmpeg-next/ubuntu/dists/xenial/main/binary-amd64/Packages  404  Not Found
[21:41] <coppz> E: Some index files failed to download. They have been ignored, or old ones used instead.
[21:41] <coppz> "
[21:42] <ikonia> you don't just install a PPA by accident
[21:42] <ikonia> it takes a pretty clear and defined command
[21:43] <coppz> I done the ppa for 14.04 instead of following the new one
[21:43] <ikonia> coppz: so you've not actually installed anything from that repo then ?
[21:43] <Bashing-om> vsssd: What is tha hardwre - lspci -k | grep -EA2 'VGA|3D' -  and what is installed for the driver - dpkg -l | grep -i nvidia - in a pastebin .
[21:44] <vsssd> Bashing-om
[21:44] <vsssd> Thnaks will soon
[21:44] <coppz> what I have in brackets is what I put into terminal. Ever since whats in " " is what shows up everytime I update in terminal.
[21:44] <vsssd> http://pastebin.com/kpun9u4T
[21:44] <ikonia> coppz: just remove the repo then or manually remove the repo file
[21:44] <vsssd> dpkg -l | grep -i nvidia -
[21:45] <vsssd> - dpkg -l | grep -i nvidia -
[21:45] <vsssd> does not work all due
[21:45] <coppz> Ikonia to be honest I dont know where it is to remove, new to Ubuntu.
[21:45] <vsssd> Bashing-om
[21:46] <Yxven> seems pretty hard to install lubuntu on an old computer
[21:46] <Bashing-om> coppz: utopic was the last supported release: http://ppa.launchpad.net/kirillshkrogalev/ffmpeg-next/ubuntu/dists/ . Try ppa-purge to revert to what is in the repo ?
[21:46] <Yxven> can't install curl to get the nvidia driver I need to run graphics
[21:46] <ah_1991> i had just learned html and css and some js and have finished the first part of mit introduction to computer science is there any simple idea for web app that i can build
[21:46] <vsssd> Yxven: Installing Nvidia drivers beside wrecking your PC is hard...wondering about people talking about PC gaming on Linux
[21:47] <coppz> man right now your just saying words haha. How do I do this?
[21:47] <kostkon> !ppapurge
[21:48] <jok3rx> i am new here guys
[21:48] <Bashing-om> vsssd: http://pastebin.com/kpun9u4T . Rge 367 version river . and the dpkg command is good .. that is a "L" lower case .
[21:48] <jok3rx> whats going on here
[21:48] <coppz> Ubuttu In my case, what is the Repo name and which is sub? Sorry about this
[21:48] <MonkeyDust> jok3rx  type   /topic
[21:49] <frib> how can i resolve this conflict? http://paste.ubuntu.com/23404430/
[21:49] <vsssd> bashing-om
[21:49] <vsssd> http://pastebin.com/UJ89QpCt
[21:49] <vsssd> I ran                dpkg -l | grep -i nvidia -
[21:50] <jok3rx> who has a good working brute here
[21:50] <karthikeayan> anyone can help me about my hugepage question above?
[21:50] <jok3rx> just like capital one brute
[21:50] <ikonia> jok3rx: what do you want ?
[21:50] <MonkeyDust> karthikeayan  hit the up arrow to repeat the question
[21:50] <karthikeayan> Hi, I am seeing difference in huge page values between the /etc/default/grub file and /proc/meminfo. I have got 107520 in /etc/default/grub file. But /proc/meminfo shows 106856. What can be the reason?
[21:50] <jok3rx> @ikonia i want the updated brute scanner
[21:50] <jok3rx> i am a money man
[21:50] <Bashing-om> !info nvidia-prime-applet
[21:51] <ikonia> jok3rx: what update brute scanner ?
[21:51] <ikonia> jok3rx: a "money man" ?
[21:51] <jok3rx> yeah
[21:51] <ikonia> jok3rx: could you just ask a "clear" question please.
[21:51] <jok3rx> the old one is not working and i need the new one
[21:51] <ikonia> what old one
[21:51] <Bashing-om> vsssd: ^ so where does nvidia-prime-applet come from ? and what is it ?
[21:52] <jok3rx> you use any brute capital one
[21:52] <coppz> coppz@Coppz-9530:~$ sudo ppa-purge ppa:ppa.launchpad.net/kirillshkrogalev/ffmpeg-next.ubuntu xenial/main
[21:52] <coppz> Updating packages lists
[21:52] <coppz> W: The repository 'http://ppa.launchpad.net/kirillshkrogalev/ffmpeg-next/ubuntu xenial Release' does not have a Release file.
[21:52] <coppz> E: Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/kirillshkrogalev/ffmpeg-next/ubuntu/dists/xenial/main/binary-amd64/Packages  404  Not Found
[21:52] <coppz> E: Some index files failed to download. They have been ignored, or old ones used instead.
[21:52] <vsssd> bashing-om> From dpkg -l | grep -i nvidia -
[21:52] <coppz> Warning:  apt-get update failed for some reason
[21:52] <ikonia> jok3rx: captial one is a ban
[21:52] <vsssd> You told me to use it
[21:52] <ikonia> bank
[21:52] <MonkeyDust> jok3rx  this is ubuntu support, sure you want to be here?
[21:52] <jok3rx> i would love to show u a pic but cant
[21:52] <ikonia> jok3rx: could you please clarify what you want
[21:52] <jok3rx> oooh i am sorry bro
[21:52] <karthikeayan> http://paste.ubuntu.com/23404446/
[21:52] <jok3rx> i will leave
[21:53] <jok3rx> thanks @ikonia
[21:53] <ikonia> karthikeayan: are you setting that value in grub ?
[21:53] <vsssd> So I have two OS:s and using GRUB N encryption. I also have Nvidia but with PPA drivers I got black scree. Tried nomodeset and nvidia nomode 1, still black screens
[21:53] <Bashing-om> vsssd: I mean that nvidia-prime-applet is an unknown package .. where did it originate ?
[21:53] <karthikeayan> nope, am not setting.. am analyzing the root cause
[21:54] <ikonia> karthikeayan: what set it
[21:54] <vsssd> Bashing-om: I installed lastest Nvidia 370.xx something. I tried older Drivers also
[21:54] <ikonia> karthikeayan: I suspect there just isn't enough ram to allocate that number of pages at 2m
[21:54] <coppz> Can I please get some help
[21:54] <frib> how can i resolve this conflict? http://paste.ubuntu.com/23404430/
[21:54] <vsssd> Bashing-om: I been trying for about 3 hours to fix this problem
[21:54] <vsssd> Tried so far 4 dists
[21:54] <vsssd> Clearly a driver's problem
[21:54] <frib> some impossible apt situation
[21:54] <karthikeayan> @ikonia: automation tool, fuel is setting this
[21:54] <jok3rx> ikonia pls i have one question i need to hack some wifi pls
[21:54] <ikonia> coppz: remove the file from /etc/apt/sources.d
[21:54] <jok3rx> hw can i go abt it
[21:54] <ikonia> jok3rx: we don't help with that here
[21:55] <jok3rx> wow
[21:55] <jok3rx> no crime here
[21:55] <ikonia> karthikeayan: so I'd look at the value the tool is setting and why
[21:55] <vsssd> jok3rx: L:earn to hack not ask
[21:55] <karthikeayan> @ikonia: i think i have got enough ram Mem:        257710     221213      36497          1        348       3786
[21:55] <vsssd> jok3rx: Learn networking, setup a VM and learn about TCP / UDP
[21:55] <vsssd> Then come back and ask for Linux problems
[21:56] <vsssd> otherwise just DDOS and get arrested
[21:56] <ikonia> karthikeayan: how much ram do you actually have ?
[21:56] <coppz> Ikonia its grayed out it wont let me
[21:56] <karthikeayan> @ikonia: the tool is just writing the 107520 value into the config file
[21:56] <ikonia> coppz: what's greyed out
[21:56] <ikonia> karthikeayan: right, so why is it writing that value
[21:56] <ikonia> karthikeayan: what is the process it's using to work out that number
[21:57] <karthikeayan> @ikonia: no work out here, the value will be writtent as it is
[21:57] <coppz> to remove. I went into Files, Computer, etc, apt, sources.list.d like you said and when I right click to remove its grayed out
[21:57] <ikonia> karthikeayan: right, but something must work out that value
[21:57] <karthikeayan> @ikonia: we have multiple servers, on each of the node, there is a small mismatch
[21:57] <ikonia> karthikeayan: how much ram do you actually have ?
[21:57] <karthikeayan> @ikonia: i have got 35GB free now
[21:57] <ikonia> karthikeayan: no - how much ram does the machine have
[21:58] <vsssd> bashing-om: Got any idea or should I go with noveau drivers_
[21:58] <karthikeayan> @ikonia: might be at the time of deployment, it was running out of ram
[21:58] <frib> please help to resolve this apt-get situation! http://paste.ubuntu.com/23404430/
[21:58] <karthikeayan> @ikonia: but server is 256GB, i dont think ram gets filled up
[21:58] <ikonia> karthikeayan: ok - the server is 256gb of ram,
[21:58] <ikonia> karthikeayan: however if you look at the maths of that config, you have 35GB of huge pages
[21:59] <coppz> Ikonia: to remove. I went into Files, Computer, etc, apt, sources.list.d like you said and when I right click to remove its grayed out
[21:59] <ikonia> karthikeayan: so if you are saying you have 35gb free, and the huge pages adds up to 35GB....that suggests there is not enough ram to do "more"
[21:59] <Bashing-om> vsssd: ' tail -v -n +1 /etc/apt/sources.list.d/* ' and still unknown how that applet for nvidia got installed or what it is .
[21:59] <ikonia> coppz: open a terminal and just type sudo rm /etc/apt/sources.list.d/$name_of_file_you_want_to_remove
[21:59] <coppz> thanks
[21:59] <needsomehelpyo> I cant find freemind on 16.04. How is that possible?
[22:00] <karthikeayan> @ikonia: whats the math here? can you please elobarate, am not getting
[22:00] <vsssd> bashing-om
[22:00] <vsssd> http://pastebin.com/2LqzCyi8
[22:00] <OerHeks> frib, did you update before install?
[22:00] <frib> OerHeks, i think i tried to install a non-existent package
[22:01] <ikonia> karthikeayan: look at the top line of your paste
[22:01] <frib> i was asked to install libmysql++ but that package doesnt exist
[22:01] <ikonia> karthikeayan: there is 35gb of pages allocated
[22:01] <ikonia> karthikeayan: you have 35gb of ram....
[22:01] <vsssd> bashing-om: But how does this help my problem? I have not installed any drivers now
[22:01] <vsssd> I am running on a USB CD
[22:01] <vsssd> I am asking for a specifi problem
[22:01] <OerHeks> frib,  the dev does exist http://packages.ubuntu.com/xenial/libmysql++-dev
[22:02] <OerHeks> http://packages.ubuntu.com/source/xenial/mysql++
[22:02] <frib> OerHeks, i noticed, but that is not the package requested by the script i'm trying to run
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[22:02] <frib> i'm not sure what libmysql++ is, are you?
[22:04] <karthikeayan> @ikonia:  i believe 356352 kB is 348 gB
[22:04] <ikonia> Hmmm maybe my maths is off then
[22:04] <Bashing-om> vsssd: 1) that is not the sources list I had ecpected to see . 2) if this is a Mint install we can not help . The later drivers for yoyr card are in a PPA dedicated to nVidia drivers . You must have the source to access that PPA .
[22:05] <karthikeayan> @ikonia: u confused me
[22:05] <vsssd> bashing-om: I had this problem with, Xubuntu, Kubuntu, Ubuntu and Linux Mint
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[22:05] <vsssd> bashing-om: All this dist I installed today and same problem
[22:05] <vsssd> Usally I would add PPA
[22:06] <Bashing-om> vsssd: What release do you have installed at this time ?
[22:06] <vsssd> bashing: Usally I would add PPA through CLI but I am on USB Live disk I said because I cannot acess the default installation
[22:06] <vsssd> Bashing-om: I tried Linux Mint and using it now, same problem with Kubuntu
[22:06] <vsssd> Bashing-om: all are ubuntu core dists
[22:06] <ikonia> no they are not
[22:06] <ikonia> mint and ubuntu are different
[22:07] <Bashing-om> vsssd: Boot the install to the login screen . ctl_alt_+F1 to gain a console . Yes ?
[22:07] <vsssd> ikonia: Same problem I have all due
[22:07] <Yxven> I need gcc to install my graphics driver but it hangs saying it can't determine the runlevel. initing a runlevel also hangs. Any ideas?
[22:07] <ikonia> vsssd: I don' tknow what that means
[22:07] <vsssd> Bashing-om: Does not work with nomodeset nor with normal installation *normal installation,m everything freezes(
[22:07] <vsssd> and when doing nomodeset it is blank and keyboard also froozen. Black screen also
[22:08] <vsssd> ikonia: Hardware drivers, all have the same problem with Black screen using Nvidia drivers
[22:08] <vsssd> Ikonia: Even when using Kubuntu *diffrent GUI* I got crashes and they told me to install Nvidia drivers N it would be done...that is not the case I guess
[22:09] <ikonia> vsssd: "different gui" ?
[22:09] <vsssd> Ikonia: Kubuntu uses KDE
[22:09] <ikonia> yes, I'm aware of that
[22:09] <vsssd> Ikonia: Where Ubuntu uses UNITY & MATE
[22:09] <ikonia> it's the same base OS though
[22:10] <vsssd> Ikonia: That is the main diffrence between Kubuntu N Ubuntu and different packages but the core is the same
[22:10] <ikonia> I know the difference between ubuntu
[22:10] <ikonia> however mint is a different setup, hence why it's not supported here
[22:10] <vsssd> Still Ikonia I have the same problem with Kubuntu, Ubuntu N Linux
[22:10] <vsssd> If you can tell me a solution for Kubuntu & Ubuntu I would glady change and format my USB to install Ubuntu 16.04
[22:11] <ikonia> no
[22:11] <ikonia> I'm not debugging a mint machine
[22:11] <vsssd> Ikonia, read what I wrote instead
[22:11] <ikonia> what have I missed ?
[22:11] <vsssd> Ikonia, tell me a solution for Ubuntu and I will change or install
[22:11] <vsssd> Nomodeset does not work
[22:12] <OerHeks> that 970 should work with the 343 driver and up
[22:12] <wire_> *.* has no installation candidate- i get this for everything
[22:12] <vsssd> nor grub_gfxmode 1280x1024x24
[22:12] <ikonia> vsssd: I can't tell you a solution as it needs to be debugged
[22:12] <vsssd> So if I download Kubuntu now will you help then_
[22:12] <ikonia> at this time, probably not personally, but others will
[22:13] <wire_> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or is only available from another source  E: Package 'xchat' has no installation candidate
[22:13] <vsssd> Ikonia: I am maybe little offensive but I am shit tired off this, been trying to solve this for 4 hours soon
[22:13] <ikonia> vsssd: you don't need to swear
[22:13] <vsssd> Ikonia: Ban me
[22:15] <wire_> i can download python-software-properties, sowtware-properties-common giving errors for apt-add,
[22:16] <wire_> cant*
[22:16] <MightyKing> Is there too much difference between Ubuntu 16.04 and 14.04?
[22:16] <jnagro> i cant get X to start. i have a built in AMD card and an NVIDIA that i added
[22:16] <jnagro> i was running on the NVIDIA but i swapped back to the built in so i could leave the NVIDIA to be 100% idle for processing
[22:17] <jnagro> i get the login screen, but after entering my password it just brings me back
[22:17] <OerHeks> wire_, apt-add? use 'apt install'
[22:17] <jnagro> been googling around a ton, but i cant figure out what exactly the issue is
[22:17] <wire_> i am adding ppa
[22:18] <wire_> i finially apped it now i get E: Package 'kodi' has no installation candidate
[22:19] <Ben64> check the ppa
[22:19] <dax> MightyKing: about two years worth of new software versions. other than that, not particularly
[22:19] <OerHeks> after adding a ppa, run update.
[22:20] <MightyKing> Hmm...
[22:23] <Yxven> I just googled that jnagro http://askubuntu.com/questions/223501/ubuntu-gets-stuck-in-a-login-loop pressing ctrl-alt-f3 got me at least logged into the system
[22:31] <frib> On trying to set display resolution i get this error.  Does anyone know what it means?GDBus.Error:org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.ServiceUnknown: The name org.gnome.SettingsDaemon was not provided by any .service files
[22:33] <jhebden> 278963
[22:36] <minimec> frib: What window manager are you runnung?
[22:36] <frib> minimec, fluxbox
[22:38] <minimec> frib: That is the problem. You would have to start the gnome-settings-daemon or the unity-settings-daemon at the beginning of your fluxbox session, to be able to use the gnome GUI insterface. Otherwise, not only the GUI but also the vlaues you set will not be taken in to account.
[22:39] <frib> minimec, got it thanks!
[22:39] <minimec> frib: You could configure the xserver with a xorg.conf or use xrandr in a terminal to set your resolution. That should work.
[22:40] <frib> minimec, xrandr sounds good
[22:40] <catbeard> how can i monitor keypress (keyup,keydown) events?
[22:40] <minimec> frib: Xrandr is a rather nifty tool....
[22:41] <frib> minimec, ok thanks my friend
[22:41] <minimec> catbeard: in a terminal, run 'xev'.
[22:42] <Bashing-om> catbeard: ' xev ' can show you that .
[22:44] <catbeard> doesn't explain why in gedit, it's moving all around
[22:44] <catbeard> i disabled trackpad input in xorg.conf.d for synapticcs
[22:45] <catbeard> and i have a usb mouse plugged in
[22:52] <martysia> good evening. I have installed ubuntu 16.04.1 on a gpt and UEFI machine with preinstalled windows. I was informed that the installation was successful but after the reboot my computer went straight into windows. I have tried https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair and it didn't help. Here's my result: http://paste2.org/88v18mzH ad here's my partition table: http://dpaste.com/0YTE9CM
[22:53] <catbeard> here's a video of what's going on.. minimec Bashing-om - http://www.filedropper.com/screencast2016-10-30185109
[22:55] <minimec> martysia: Looks like the bootloader is installed on /dev/sdb. Can you choose a different device to boot from in the UEFI boot menu. If so, choose the other harddrive.
[22:55] <martysia> I have also tried bcdedit /set {bootmgr} path\efi\ubuntu\shimx64.efi under windows - with no luck
[22:56] <martysia> minimec: what?
[22:57] <catbeard> martysia: set the boot device in BIOS to /dev/sdb
[22:57] <catbeard> or whatever device represents sdb
[22:57] <martysia> minimec: you want me to have my USB stick connected each time I want to run ubuntu?
[22:58] <minimec> martysia: From the boot Info Script: => No boot loader is installed in the MBR of /dev/sda. => Syslinux MBR (5.00 and higher) is installed in the MBR of /dev/sdb.
[22:59] <minimec> martysia: Your computer is set to boot from /dev/sda. So it automatically boots windows. You should be able to change the boot device and boot from the other harddrive.
[23:00] <minimec> martysia: I don't know how you installed ubuntu, but there is no boot manager installed on the /dev/sda harddrive, so you cannot start Ubuntu.
[23:00] <martysia> minimec: how is that possible? I didn't change the boot device during the installation - I left it as a default and it was /dev/sda
[23:02] <debkad> Hi martysia
[23:02] <minimec> martysia: Ok. I don't know, why the installation did not work.  I don't really know UEFI erally well. You may have other people here with better knowledge.
[23:02] <peeps[work]> is there a packages that would contain POSIX related man pages?   someone is telling me to read section 3p for a functoin, but i don't have that section on my computer.
[23:03] <martysia> hi debkad
[23:05] <Random832> peeps[work]: manpages-posix and manpages-posix-dev
[23:06] <Random832> manpages-posix-dev is section 3p, manpages-posix is section 1p (useful for shell scripting)
[23:07] <debkad> I'm getting a freeze on the whole system caused by UFW Block message, so the question is: How to get rid of the UFW message SRC=blabla DST=blabla , causing freeze of the whole system
[23:07] <Ben64> debkad: that wouldn't cause a freeze
[23:07] <debkad> Ben64: sadly it did
[23:07] <Ben64> it didn't though
[23:08] <debkad> when the message stop, i can control my session
[23:08] <peeps[work]> Random832, ah, thank you.   i was grepping for "doc" didn't realize it was prefixed as simply "manpages"
[23:08] <Ben64> debkad: explain more
[23:08] <cncr04s> men control all documentation
[23:08] <debkad> Ben64: the prove: http://sprunge.us/IHCg
[23:09] <debkad> all that time ^ i can't do anything
[23:09] <Ben64> debkad: doesn't prove anything, explain what's happening
[23:09] <debkad> Ben64: my system freeze totaly, when i see the syslog/dmesg i see those messages
[23:10] <Ben64> if it's frozen, you wouldn't have logs running
[23:10] <hggdh> debkad: these messages are spread around by seconds. Tey are not causing your system to loc
[23:11] <debkad> ok but how to disable them at least
[23:11] <Ben64> debkad: can you just fully explain what you're doing and what's happening
[23:12] <debkad> Ben64: that was my problem, i don't know how to explain more with my little english
[23:12] <Ben64> google translate exists
[23:14] <debkad> google: When the operating system freezes and after my research immediately after the incident, I see too many mistakes in my syslog and Demasg
[23:15] <debkad> i don't see any other problem when i see those files
[23:15] <Ben64> debkad: you're still not explaining the actual issue
[23:15] <debkad> ok forget it
[23:16] <debkad> what causing the freeze then?
[23:16] <Ben64> that's what i'm trying to figure out
[23:16] <debkad> may be none
[23:17] <Ben64> so can you explain what's actually going on or not?
[23:17] <debkad> i did
[23:17] <Planecool> Hello
[23:17] <debkad> Ben64: the syslog and dmesg must show the errors
[23:17] <debkad> but those the errors above
[23:17] <Ben64> debkad: you haven't explain anything
[23:18] <debkad> Ben64: may be
[23:18] <Planecool> So i installes nvida drivers on encrypted  ubuntu 16.04, the internet suggest enabling no splash from grub but im not sure how to do that. Any help much appriciated.
[23:18] <debkad> Ben64: my system freeze and i want to fix that?
[23:18] <debkad> still not clear?
[23:18] <Ben64> debkad: yes, so explain what exactly is happening, is that not clear?
[23:18] <Ben64> !nomodeset | Planecool
[23:18] <debkad> Ben64: the whole system freeze <== that the problem
[23:19] <Planecool> Thank u very much, sorry about the poor grammer im on my phone.
[23:19] <Ben64> Planecool: no problem, just put "nosplash" instead of nomodeset, unless that's what you wanted
[23:20] <Ben64> debkad: you need to explain, in detail, what you're doing and what is happening on the computer. without this information nobody will be able to help you.
[23:21] <debkad> Ben64: what i was doing, actually as everyday, what happen: system freeze, no mouse no keyboard ... responding, checking both syslog and dmesg i seen just the messages i posted above, what else i must explain?
[23:22] <Ben64> debkad: well good luck, i'm not going to continue fighting you to try to help
[23:22] <debkad> Ben64: i see
[23:22] <saintpetejackboy> I know this is not the right channel to ask this, but since when is #php invite-only? :(
[23:23] <Ben64> saintpetejackboy: it's ##php
[23:23] <ikonia> saintpetejackboy: if you know it's not the right channel, don't ask
[23:23] <Planecool> Uhh nomodeswt did not worm
[23:23] <saintpetejackboy> sorry :(
[23:23] <ikonia> you must see how rude that is
[23:23] <saintpetejackboy> Indeed
[23:24] <Planecool> Where is says splasg quiet
[23:24] <Ben64> Planecool: ?
[23:25] <Ben64> Planecool: if you wanted nosplash, you would put "nosplash quiet" instead of "splash quiet", and if you wanted nomodeset, you'd put that there also
[23:26] <Buttersnot> Question.. Running Ubuntu 16.04, I just realized that my wired network connection works (I can see my router, and I can ping any valid internet IP), however, if I try to access anything by name, DNS doesn't get resolved. If I disable wired, and enable Wifi, everything works normal.  What/where should I look to get this to work under wired?
[23:27] <Planecool> http://askubuntu.com/questions/33416/how-do-i-disable-the-boot-splash-screen-and-only-show-kernel-and-boot-text-inst
[23:27] <shawn196|R40> /me facepalms
[23:27] <Planecool> This worked for me
[23:27] <Planecool> From grub just fine
[23:28] <fqtw> if i want to run an executable as a daemon, does it have to be compiled with that in mind?
[23:29] <Planecool> Question 2, if i want to set xset mouse 1 0 permently is that possible?


[00:53] <callmepk> good morning
[04:38] <oSoMoN> good morning desktoppers
[05:25] <duflu> Morning oSoMoN
[05:31] <oSoMoN> hey duflu
[05:42] <seb128> goood morning desktopers
[05:52] <duflu> Morning seb128
[05:52] <seb128> hey duflu, happy friday! how are you? getting ready for the weekend? :)
[05:52] <didrocks> good morning
[05:53] <duflu> seb128, Happy Friday. Yeah I will enjoy the rest. How are you?
[05:53] <duflu> Hi didrocks
[05:53] <didrocks> hey duflu
[05:54] <seb128> lut didrocks
[05:55] <seb128> duflu, I'm fine, a bit tired but it's friday so it's alright, should be alright after some coffee
[05:56] <didrocks> salut seb128, bon vendredi
[06:02] <seb128> didrocks, merci, à toi également !
[06:03] <didrocks> 'ci
[06:16] <pieq> Hello everyone!
[06:17] <pieq> I noticed a refugar "+1 maintenance report" on the ubuntu-devel mailing list, but I'm not sure what it's all about exactly. Is there a Wiki page or something to explain it?
[06:17] <seb128> pieq, hey, yes, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PlusOneMaintenanceTeam
[06:19] <seb128> pieq, the wiki page is old but that initiative got some staffing again recently
[06:19] <seb128> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PlusOneMaintenanceTeam/Status also
[06:20] <pieq> merci seb128 !
[06:20] <seb128> de rien :)
[06:27] <ricotz> good morning desktopers!
[06:28] <ricotz> oSoMoN, hey, am I correct that you filed a bug regarding a backport of python 3.6 to xenial?
[06:30] <ricotz> oSoMoN, https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1644845
[06:38] <seb128> hey ricotz, how are you? happy friday!
[06:46] <ricotz> seb128, hi, thanks, I am fine, looking forward to the weekend
[06:46] <ricotz> how are you?
[06:54] <duflu> Hi also pieq and ricotz
[06:58] <marcustomlinson> hey duflu oSoMoN seb128 didrocks pieq ricotz
[07:03] <duflu> 'lo marcustomlinson
[07:16] <oSoMoN> good morning seb128, didrocks, pieq, ricotz, marcustomlinson
[07:17] <oSoMoN> ricotz, I didn't file that bug, but I discussed the problem with other ubuntu devs, and the consensus was not to try backporting, instead we should distro-patch firefox to build with python 3.5
[07:17] <didrocks> hey marcustomlinson, oSoMoN
[07:23] <ricotz> oSoMoN, ack
[07:39] <seb128> ricotz, a bit tired but alright, I'm also looking forward some extra rest in the weekend :)
[07:39] <seb128> lut oSoMoN
[10:02] <KGB-0> mutter ubuntu/master Daniel van Vugt * [open] merge request !65: Fix blurry wallpaper (upstream mutter!1003) (LP: #1862308) * https://deb.li/3tEpd
[10:08] <duflu> Feel free to ignore that for a while because I'm starting my weekend
[10:08] <duflu> o/
[13:34] <seb128> kenvandine, do we have any process to flag snapd issues we might consider important/that need debugging?
[13:34] <seb128> kenvandine, bug #1858636 sounds like one of those, comment #34 sounds interesting
[13:35] <seb128> or #29 rather
[13:35]  * kenvandine looks
[13:35] <seb128> the cache generated by snapd lacks NotoColorEmoji.ttf comapred to the one done by deb triggers
[13:38] <seb128> kenvandine, note that duflu wrote in there that it breaks chrome (deb) for him, so it's not a problem with use of snaps but rather snapd which doesn't generate a cache properly matching which is available
[13:38] <seb128> fontconfig keeps being a fun topic :/
[13:40] <kenvandine> seb128: indeed... no fun at all
[13:41] <kenvandine> chromium isn't using the platform snap and doesn't include NotoColorEmoji.ttf in the snap
[13:41] <seb128> kenvandine, it's not about chromium, read what I just wrote on the channel
[13:41] <kenvandine> yeah
[13:41] <kenvandine> i did
[13:42] <seb128> snapd overwrite the /var/cache/fontconfig/ cache right?
[13:42] <kenvandine> i didn't think that was the case
[13:42] <kenvandine> but it must be
[13:42] <seb128> seems like it does it in a way which is buggy and as a result even debs are buggy
[13:42] <seb128> if it doesn't then the comments don't make sense
[13:42] <kenvandine> right
[13:43] <kenvandine> it is very interesting
[13:43] <kenvandine> my most recently modified cache files end in cache-6
[13:43] <seb128> is there a way to force the snapd cache refresh to see what it gives?
[13:43] <kenvandine> the older ones are cache-7
[13:43] <kenvandine> that would be a question for mvo
[13:45] <kenvandine> seb128: i think  you are right...
[13:50] <seb128> kenvandine, I tagged it rls-ff-incoming, I don't think anyone owning snapd follows that process though, what's the right way to raise the issue to the snap team?
[13:50] <seb128> oSoMoN, ^ fyi
[13:55] <seb128> kenvandine, I confirmed by doing
[13:56] <seb128> $ rm /var/cache/fontconfig
[13:56] <seb128> $ snap refresh --edge core
[13:56] <seb128> $ fc-cat /var/cache/fontconfig/* | grep NotoColorE
[13:56] <seb128> -> not mention
[13:56] <seb128> $ sudo dpkg-reconfigure fontconfig
[13:56] <seb128> $ fc-cat /var/cache/fontconfig/* | grep NotoColorE
[13:57] <seb128> -> things listed
[13:57] <kenvandine> please add that to the bug report
[13:57] <kenvandine> and i'll make sure they see it
[13:59] <oSoMoN> seb128, ack, thanks for raising it
[13:59] <seb128> kenvandine, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/chromium-browser/+bug/1858636/comments/37
[14:00] <oSoMoN> it's a funny and tricky bug, and mgedmin did a very good job of investigating it in depth
[14:00] <seb128> indeed
[14:01] <seb128> nice that we made a step forward
[14:01] <kenvandine> indeed
[14:01] <kenvandine> this is pretty bad
[14:01] <seb128> it's annoying and had regular comments
[14:45] <oSoMoN> kenvandine, seen that?  https://forum.snapcraft.io/t/firefox-snap-77-cannot-download-anything/18167
[14:56] <kenvandine> oSoMoN: thank, i hadn't seen that
[14:57] <kenvandine> oSoMoN: i don't think they really meant download, it was save
[14:57] <kenvandine> downloads shouldn't touch the portals
[14:57] <kenvandine> but it does want portals for the file chooser
[15:05] <oSoMoN> yes
[15:06] <oSoMoN> well by default firefox always prompts the user where to save a downloaded file
[15:07] <oSoMoN> so the file chooser is invoked, unless the user has ticked a checkbox to always perform the same action
[15:09] <kenvandine> oh it does?
[15:09] <kenvandine> hmm
[15:09] <kenvandine> if he's really running bionic he should have had the portal packages too
[15:09] <kenvandine> which is weird
[16:04] <hellsworth> good morning desktopers
[16:26] <oSoMoN> hey hellsworth
[16:28] <hellsworth> hi there
[17:24] <kenvandine> oSoMoN: i've confirmed downloads work fine on stock 18.04
[17:24] <kenvandine> oSoMoN: however... save as does not
[17:24] <kenvandine> i've reproduced the same denial
[17:24] <kenvandine> it's being denied by snapd
[17:25] <oSoMoN> so the problem is valid, although incorrectly worded
[17:25] <kenvandine> yeah
[17:38] <kenvandine> oSoMoN, interestingly i reproduced it on stock 18.04.4, then on fully updated 18.04.4 (including latest core from stable) which has snapd 2.45
[17:38] <kenvandine> i installed snapd 2.45.1 and it worked
[17:39]  * kenvandine comments on forum
[19:44] <oSoMoN> have a good week-end everyone


[00:10] <bkerensa> Astrid for the win
[00:10] <bkerensa> :D
[00:10] <bkerensa> I wish it existed on Ubuntu
[00:14] <bkerensa> pleia2: have you ever played with sudo iwconfig wlan0 power on/off?
[00:15] <pleia2> nope
[04:29] <nhaines> pleia2: taskwarrior yay!
[18:40] <bkerensa> pleia2: <vagrantc> bkerensa: so, we're going to release a 12.04 based freekbox on 2012-12-04
 bkerensa: a slightly mocked up xubuntu variant
[18:40] <bkerensa> :D
[18:40] <bkerensa> FreeGeek
[18:41] <bkerensa> It took a lot to get them to eliminate Linux Mint as a candidate
[18:41] <bkerensa> glad they are staying in the Ubuntu family of flavors
[18:41] <pleia2> cool :)
[18:42] <bkerensa> pleia2: so suddenly next year Xubuntu will start shipping on hundreds of machines per year extra
[18:42] <bkerensa> :D
[18:43] <pleia2> a lot of places have rebased, it's been interesting to watch
[18:44] <bkerensa> yeah
[18:45] <bkerensa> I tried to talk them into Ubuntu vanilla but then they started talking Linux Mint and I think me telling them a drastic experience change for their huge community was likely not the best idea plus they would not get the same level of support from the Linux Mint community... Then some Canonical folks mentioned that LM doesnt allow Kernel Updates by default :)
[18:45] <bkerensa> I think all of that turned them around
[18:45]  * bkerensa will have to get them some Xubuntu stickers
[21:03] <philballew> sent out an email for san diego people for the ubuntu hour next Wednesday
[21:32] <pleia2> yay SD is back \o/
[22:35] <raevol> \o/
[22:35] <raevol> sad i can't make it
[22:35] <raevol> though


[11:14] <Spaulding> hello folks! is there any explanation how to do ssl termination on haproxy juju charm?
[13:58] <stokachu_> arosales, can you do some deploys of spark-processing from the edge channel of conjure-up?
[14:16] <xilet> Possibly stupid question, but how do I deploy multiple copies of a charm to the same juju (physical) system, I keep getting ' application already exists' when trying to deploy a second copy of a local charm
[14:17] <jrwren> xilet: did you give it an alt name? Most charms aren't written to support this, but if it is your charm and it supports this, it should be possible?
[14:19] <stokachu> xilet, juju add-unit
[14:19] <stokachu> xilet, you can see juju help add-unit
[14:19] <stokachu> if you want to deploy to same system under multiple containers
[14:29] <xilet> thanks
[14:29] <xilet> Was exactly what I was missing
[16:48] <cory_fu> kwmonroe: Crap.  http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/23955241/
[16:49] <cory_fu> kwmonroe: 2.1-beta5's autoload-credentials will create a cred for LXD but it's missing a field and can't actually be used
[16:50] <kwmonroe> wait cory_fu, didn't this work yesterday?
[16:50] <cory_fu> kwmonroe: I didn't actually check that the credential it created would bootstrap because it looked the same as what you manually created.  I didn't notice the missing field
[16:51] <kwmonroe> ha!
[16:51] <kwmonroe> i sense "cat" in your future.
[16:51] <cory_fu> :)
[17:13] <kwmonroe> cory_fuuuuudge:  https://travis-ci.org/juju-solutions/layer-cwr/builds/199679703
[17:14] <icey> is it possible to export a bundle from the cli rather than the GUI?
[17:15] <kwmonroe> icey: i've always had to fire up the gui to do it.  if you find a way, lmk.  that would be super useful to me.
[17:15] <icey> kwmonroe: that's what I was thinking :-/
[17:15] <icey> wonder if I can hack up something to grab it from the gui with a cli command :-P
[17:16] <kwmonroe> icey: munging "juju status --format=yaml" to get the right fields might be worth looking at too
[17:17] <icey> kwmonroe: in essence, what I want to do is get the current non-controller model, create a new model with a matching deploy, and destroy the old model :)
[17:17] <icey> yaml output may be perfect but we'll see
[17:19] <kwmonroe> icey: i feel like you're on a complicated path to eseentially "rename" a model, but by golly, go for it because i need a cli export too ;)
[17:19] <icey> well, I want to re-deploy local charms into the new model ;-)
[17:19] <icey> kwmonroe: not just rename it
[17:19] <kwmonroe> heh... suuuuure..
[17:20] <icey> kwmonroe: 3/4 of my current model is local: charms :)
[17:39] <catbus1> stokachu: where is conjure0 interface defined?
[18:12] <catbus1> brctl shows conjureup0 isn't attached to any interface.
[18:15] <catbus1> that's the conjureup0 created in openstack with novakvm on maas cloud
[18:15] <catbus1> the conjureup0 in openstack with novalxd on localhost works.
[18:38] <catbus1> stokachu: i found where conjureup0 is created. nm.
[18:56] <kwmonroe> cory_fu: travis is busted, but https://github.com/juju-solutions/layer-cwr/pull/59.  just merge it.  do it.
[18:57] <cory_fu> kwmonroe: Gotta wait for travis to pass.  ;)
[18:57] <kwmonroe> one sec, just need to remove .travis.yml right quick
[18:58] <cory_fu> :)
[18:58] <cory_fu> I wonder what's going on wit Travis, tho.  It's also messed up for charms.reactive
[18:59] <cory_fu> kwmonroe: Merged
[18:59] <kwmonroe> methinks something went south with a charm-tools dep.  like maybe python-libcharmstore used to be available, but now it's not, and that's breaking the env setup.
[18:59] <kwmonroe> thx for the merge
[19:21] <stokachu> catbus1, its in our spells lxd profile
[19:54] <catbus1> stokachu: I don't find it. I see conjureup0 gets created in the conjure-up init bridge.start, but I don't find which physical interface is attached to it.
[19:54] <catbus1> I can't find  it.
[19:55] <stokachu> catbus1, it's attached to same interface lxdbr0 is
[19:55] <catbus1> stokachu: is it still the same if using maas as the cloud?
[19:55] <stokachu> yea should be
[19:56] <stokachu> it'll just nat just like lxdbr0
[19:57] <catbus1> stokachu: I don't see lxdbr0 on the maas/conjure-up node.
[19:58] <stokachu> catbus1, oh right, sorry
[19:58] <stokachu> catbus1, maas different ballgame
[19:58] <stokachu> conjureup0 is only useful with novalxd and localhost
[19:58] <stokachu> maas is all up to you to setup
[19:58] <stokachu> conjureup0 just gets added automatically b/c we can't determine early enough what type of provider you'll be deploying too
[19:58] <stokachu> so it's a kind of prepare for every scenario
[19:59] <catbus1> so with maas as a cloud, should I manually attach the physical interface to the conjureup0?
[20:00] <catbus1> so that maas/conjure-up node can ssh to the openstack instance on a different physical server.
[20:00] <stokachu> catbus1, yea that's up to you to configure
[20:01] <catbus1> ok
[21:36] <arosales> stokachu: just landed from Gent, but will get some deploys from edge on spark processing when I get back into the home office
[21:38] <stokachu> arosales, cool
[22:28] <skay> just started seeing this exception when I try to deploy postgresql today https://paste.ubuntu.com/23956963/


[00:09] <Darkwing> Riddell: sent.
[02:29] <pvivek_> i am upgrading Precise, i am running do-release-upgrade -d in tty. Everything was working fine, now generating grub.cfg is stuck in an infinite loop, in the sense, its finding my distros and again generating grub.cfg again and again. What to do to stop it? ctrl+c would kill the whole process right ?
[08:08] <Riddell> guid mornin
[09:26] <Riddell> !testers
[09:26] <Riddell> http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/210/builds  iso testing needed
[09:36] <tazz> Riddell, http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/daily/20120327/precise-mobile-i386.iso gives a 404
[09:36] <Riddell> tazz: where is that linked from?
[09:36] <Riddell> mobile doesn't exist any more
[09:37] <tazz> http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/210/builds/14245/downloads
[09:37] <tazz> Riddell, http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/210/builds i was looking at the active build.
[09:38]  * Mamarok fetches her old laptop and tests amd64 desktop
[09:39] <Riddell> tazz: it's here http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu-active/daily-live/20120327/
[09:39] <Riddell> I wonder how to fix it in iso tracker
[09:40] <tazz> i can test the mobile build on my exopc
[09:43] <Riddell> tazz: fixed I think
[09:43] <Riddell> tazz: and it's an active built no mobile :)
[09:44] <tazz> \o/
[09:44] <tazz> oh ok. kubuntu-active
[09:45] <Riddell> we can rename to kubuntu-zumba if you think that would be using a better known term
[09:45]  * Riddell fears that might be a cultural trademark that hasn't reached india yet
[09:55] <tazz> Riddell, i am afraid we already would have a zumba like implementation in our bollywood industry :p
[09:59] <Riddell> ooh good idea, kubuntu-bollywood-dancers-and-singers
[10:31] <shadeslayer> Darkwing: The TF101 with sbkv2
[10:31] <shadeslayer> B70 something
[10:32] <shadeslayer> that's the serial number
[11:18] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[11:54] <artnay> any idea if the KDE langpacks will be updated to 4.8(.1) before 12.04 release? bug 945560
[11:57] <Riddell> artnay: they are on our part (see https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kde-l10n-fr) so if they're not getting through that's a bug in launchpad
[11:57] <Riddell> dpm: nudge nudge ^^
[11:58] <dpm> artnay, as asked on #ubuntu-translators, are they not updated? Could you give me an example where they are not, so that we can investigate it if necessary?
[12:01] <artnay> dpm: they're not. wait, I'll browse KDE's svn. should we continue this on #ubuntu-translators?
[12:01] <dpm> artnay, whichever channel of the two is good
[12:01]  * Riddell lunches
[12:06] <artnay> dpm: for example icon-tasks which was merged in 4.8. here's what LP offers: https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu/precise/+source/kde-workspace/+pots/plasma-applet-tasks/fi and here's what exists in KDE: http://websvn.kde.org/*checkout*/branches/stable/l10n-kde4/fi/messages/kdeplasma-addons/plasma_applet_icontasks.po - LP template is missing lots of visible strings
[12:09] <artnay> dpm: and some are missing because i18n work hasn't been done
[12:15] <artnay> dpm: actually I'm not even sure if that's the same package... it says the source is kde-workspace. however in KDE it's part of kdeplasma-addons and if I look at that package on LP I can't find tasks: https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu/precise/+source/kdeplasma-addons/
[12:17] <artnay> dpm: according to https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu/precise/+source/kdeplasma-addons/+sharing-details - Updated 2011-09-09
[12:18] <dpm> artnay, ok, I think that gives me enough info to investigate. It might take me a while, but I'll update the status of the bug with my findings
[12:19] <artnay> dpm: oh snap, import status invalid: https://code.launchpad.net/~neon/kdeplasma-addons/trunk
[12:19] <dpm> thanks
[12:20] <yofel> artnay: that's the old svn source import, has no relevance for translations
[12:25] <shadeslayer> \o
[12:26] <shadeslayer> yay, CD size now 650 MB
[12:26] <shadeslayer> will test tonight
[12:27] <yofel> whut o.O
[12:27] <yofel> how did that happen?
[12:27] <shadeslayer> I have no idea myself :P
[12:27] <koolhead17|away> shadeslayer, hola
[12:27] <shadeslayer>  precise-desktop-amd64+mac.iso       27-Mar-2012 01:13  694M  Desktop CD for 64-bit Mac (AMD64) computers (standard download)
[12:27] <shadeslayer> hey koolhead17|away
[12:27] <shadeslayer> oh heh, 694, not 650
[12:27] <koolhead17> shadeslayer, got the visa power!! :P
[12:27] <shadeslayer> i386 is 687
[12:28] <shadeslayer> koolhead17: Woot!
[12:28] <shadeslayer> koolhead17: I told you to keep calm :P
[12:28] <koolhead17> shadeslayer, you will laugh once i will tell you what was asked!! :P
[12:28] <shadeslayer> aha, power pc is 645 MB : precise-desktop-powerpc.iso         27-Mar-2012 01:14  645M  Desktop CD for Mac (PowerPC) and IBM-PPC (POWER5) computers (standard download
[12:28] <koolhead17> hi sealne
[12:29] <shadeslayer> koolhead17: PM me :P
[12:34] <afiestas> Riddell: where should we put the feedback we get doing beta testing?
[12:34] <afiestas> launchpad bugs?
[12:35] <afiestas> for example desktop effects are not working in my laptop (I'm on the installer)
[12:35] <shadeslayer> uh nope
[12:35] <shadeslayer> they should go on the QA page
[12:35] <shadeslayer> http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/reports
[12:36] <shadeslayer> afiestas: you'll need to report any bugs on launchpad and link them to your test report
[12:37] <Riddell> afiestas: report bugs on launchpad and give yay/nay/maybe reports on iso tracker
[12:37] <tsdgeos> Riddell: any idea why libqt4-dbg does not include libQtScript ?
[12:37] <Riddell> let me see
[12:38] <afiestas> it is not possible to resize a parition in the installer isn't it?
[12:38] <Riddell> tsdgeos: there's no such thing says http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?searchon=contents&keywords=libQtScript&mode=exactfilename&suite=precise&arch=any
[12:38] <Riddell> afiestas: it should be possible in manual patitioning yes
[12:38] <afiestas> mm I don't see how
[12:39] <Riddell> you can drag the bars left and right
[12:39] <tsdgeos> Riddell: ls /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libQtScript.so
[12:39] <Riddell> tsdgeos: which package is that part of
[12:39] <apachelogger> Riddell: I'll get on splash stuff in a couple of hours
[12:39] <Riddell> oh yes libqt4-script: /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libQtScript.so.4
[12:39] <tsdgeos> Riddell: libqt4-script
[12:39] <tsdgeos> ah
[12:39] <tsdgeos> there's a libqt4-script-dbg
[12:39] <tsdgeos> interesting
[12:40] <Riddell> apachelogger: too latefor beta 2 but do queue it up for after beta
[12:40] <Riddell> tsdgeos: -dbg packages just come from debian and are manually made so are error prone.  -dbgsym packages are the (incompatible) ones made automatically for ubuntu
[12:40] <Riddell> so you can also investigate those, the apt sources.list line is a bit obscure for that
[12:41] <apachelogger> Riddell: well, I wanted to go for post-beta nyway
[12:41] <apachelogger> keeping it fresh etc.
[12:41] <Riddell> apachelogger: you remind me of the canonical design team :)
[12:41] <afiestas> Riddell:  http://wstaw.org/m/2012/03/27/plasma-windowedT13421.png ?
[12:42] <apachelogger> Riddell: well, it makes sense :P
[12:42] <apachelogger> you know how reviewers are
[12:42] <Riddell> afiestas: not in that dialogue you can't
[12:42] <afiestas> apachelogger: are you comming to uds?
[12:42] <apachelogger> they mention it in the beta review and then never think of it again
[12:42] <apachelogger> afiestas: nope, no time unfortunately
[12:42] <afiestas> Riddell: then there is Delete button and that's it
[12:43] <Riddell> afiestas: there should also be a drag option if you put the mouse in he right place on the bar widget
[12:43] <afiestas> oh wait... maybe I format the home directory with btrfs last time and that's  not supported?
[12:43] <Riddell> that could well be it
[12:45] <apachelogger> brtfs is not supported in ubiquity? :O
[12:45] <afiestas> oh it is a LVM
[12:45]  * Riddell goes offline to do more iso tests
[12:46] <afiestas> btw ubiquity kubuntu frontent was lacking some features right? which ones?
[12:55] <BluesKaj> I'm having some font issues with systems ettings not holding the settings with qt curve in style/applications ...any reports about this ?
[12:56] <BluesKaj> fonts aren't holding they revert back to defaults
[12:57] <afiestas> BluesKaj: in Qt/KDE or GTK apps?
[13:00] <BluesKaj> in kde and gtk  , the ~/ and other dirs lose their font settings after opening and closing a couple of times
[13:00] <afiestas> BluesKaj: directories loosing font settings?
[13:00] <afiestas> not sure I follow :s
[13:01] <BluesKaj> yeah  within ~/
[13:02] <afiestas> BluesKaj: fail to see the relationship ebtween folders and fonts
[13:03] <BluesKaj> afiestas,   it's on , nm
[13:03] <BluesKaj> ok
[13:03] <afiestas> on nm?
[13:03] <BluesKaj> don't have the energu for expalnations that won't solve my problem anyway
[13:04] <BluesKaj> nm=nevermind
[13:06] <afiestas> damn I feel so stupid when using launchpad
[13:07] <afiestas> it may be a great tool once you know it but for noobs it is horrible
[13:09] <BluesKaj> afiestas,  what are you looking for in launchpad ?
[13:09] <afiestas> I'm trying to report a bug for kubuntu-defaults (I think) in 12.04 we stil have kopete in favorites
[13:09] <afiestas> but by default we are shipping kde telepthy, so that must be changed
[13:11] <BluesKaj> oh , i don't bother with either of them , so I guess I'm no help :)
[13:12] <afiestas> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ hwo the hell do I report a bug? :s
[13:12] <apachelogger> ehm
[13:12] <apachelogger> afiestas: we decided to use kopete as defualt for 12.04
[13:12] <afiestas> apachelogger: in beta2 it is not installed
[13:13] <apachelogger> that is a bug in kubuntu-meta then
[13:13] <apachelogger> Riddell: ^
[13:13] <apachelogger> or didn't we actually decide not to have telepathy on the cd at all?
[13:13] <apachelogger> instead keep it in universe and deploy updates there + PPA for new version?
[13:53] <alvin> Is there anyone who can give a quick workaround for bug 966226 so I can try the upgrade?
[13:58] <Riddell> alvin: ask mvo in #ubuntu-devel it's his speciality
[13:59] <alvin> Riddell: Thanks. Will do
[13:59] <Riddell> apachelogger: we have made no decision on kopete vs telepathy
[13:59] <Riddell> apachelogger: I still prefer telepathy so I'm not motivated to organise the meeting it would take to make a decision
[14:00] <alvin> (Easy :-) Can telepathy group contacts into meta-contacts and integrate with Kontact?)
[14:00] <Riddell> it can group contacts yes
[14:00] <Riddell> I'm not sure of its integration with akonadi but I suspect using akonadi would be seen as a disadvantage by many
[14:01] <shadeslayer> I believe that is coming
[14:01] <shadeslayer> vHanda and mck812 are working on that
[14:01] <shadeslayer> so it'll  be all integrated nicely sometime in the future
[14:02] <shadeslayer> glued together with nepomuk magic
[14:02] <alvin> But it's something Kopete can do now I believe (although the Kontact integration might be broken)
[14:03] <shadeslayer> On a personal note ... I don't use kontact, which is why I don't consider it a very important feature as such :)
[14:03] <shadeslayer> alvin: I'd focus more on stuff like doing what a IM messenger is supposed to do, send and recieve IM messages
[14:04] <shadeslayer> File transfer and VoIP are a plus
[14:04] <shadeslayer> ^ Implemented in ktp 0.4
[14:04] <shadeslayer> I called myself on gtalk and it worked :P
[14:05] <shadeslayer> plus, if you used empathy before, no need to re add accounts :D
[14:05] <Riddell> shadeslayer: switching to 0.4 is another unmade decision
[14:05] <Riddell> it's not released yet right?
[14:05] <shadeslayer> nope
[14:06] <shadeslayer> I think feature freeze is this week or next week
[14:06]  * shadeslayer checks with the release manager
[14:06] <alvin> Well, I'm only a user here, but I do not agree. Many of us are used to certain features, and those features are constantly taken away. (Auto-complete in Kmail, Katapult integration in Amarok, logging in the init system,...) When some program is replaced, it's better to make sure it can at least do the same. You'll probably agree that the Kontact switch was a nightmare (and it's not completely over yet - still missing features)
[14:07] <shadeslayer> heh, I don't use kontact but I've heard the horror stories :P
[14:07] <shadeslayer> Riddell: 0.4 release is sometime at the end of April
[14:07] <shadeslayer> Feature freeze is this saturdy
[14:08] <shadeslayer> *saturday
[14:08]  * shadeslayer would recommend sticking to 0.3 at the moment
[14:08] <Riddell> anyone else get kactivitymanagerd crashing on login?  I reported bug 966247
[14:08] <shadeslayer> with the possibility of a SRU/Backport after release
[14:08] <Riddell> shadeslayer: end of april is too late, 0.3 it is
[14:08] <shadeslayer> yeah
[14:09] <shadeslayer> alvin: I'm not sure I can give a unbiased opinion about ktp vs kopete :P
[14:09]  * BluesKaj doesn't blame users for avoiding kmail/kontact. They aren't necessary for normal home user email
[14:09] <shadeslayer> BluesKaj: plus the configuration wizard needs major overhaul
[14:10] <alvin> Me neither actually, but I noticed the meta-contact feature is missing in the beta.
[14:10] <shadeslayer> it should have the defaults for GMail/Yahoo/Other Popular EMail services
[14:10] <alvin> BluesKaj: Isn't Kubuntu proud on the largest business use for a KDE distro ;-)
[14:10] <shadeslayer> I don't want to manually enter smtp/imap server addresses :/
[14:10] <BluesKaj> shadeslayer,  all I can say is I loved loved kmail before KDE4
[14:10] <shadeslayer> alvin: does file transfer work on kopete?
[14:11] <shadeslayer> :D
[14:12] <shadeslayer> I think if we want to switch we shouldn't be looking at feature parity, but rather have a list of items that a IM client should be able to do and do them extremely well
[14:12] <Riddell> shadeslayer++
[14:12] <Riddell> alvin: which is the largest business use for a KDE distro?
[14:13] <shadeslayer> feature parity means squat if I can't even send a IM message properly :P
[14:13] <alvin> I don't have that data, but I suspect that Kontact might play a part in it. I do administer a Kubuntu business network, but it's not very large. Good Kolab support is a plus.
[14:14] <apachelogger> Riddell: even upstream agreed that pushing it back to 12.10 is a good idea?
[14:14] <BluesKaj> alvin,  what's the future of kmail since kubuntu is no longer "officially dev'd" by canonical, is the venture into enterprise DE apps like kmail/kontact/akonadi going to fall by the wayside and sensible email client and contained contact list be dev'd for normal users ? :)
[14:15] <tazz> http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/210/builds dosnt show a "desktop" version for i386 arch.
[14:15] <alvin> Kopete does file transfer. I'm not looking for arguments in favour of Kopete, but if Telepathy does nothing more or better, then why switch? I was quite fond of Kmail's many features before it became Akonadi based. The first thing to switch was the address book. Well, it's still not near the same features as it was in KDE3
[14:16] <alvin> BluesKaj: I'd like to know that answer, but as it's hard to build KDE without Akonadi, I think kdepim is here to stay. (I like the idea of akonadi very much)
[14:17] <shadeslayer> alvin: primary argument for switching is deprecated code ... but kopete has the advantage that it is very well tested
[14:17] <shadeslayer> and that there are known fixes/work around for kopete ...
[14:18] <BluesKaj> I hate akonadi ..totally unecessary for home users IMO
[14:18] <shadeslayer> hehe
[14:18] <alvin> Ok, but what's deprecated code. Unmaintained? Yes, that's a problem. When looking at it from a business perspective, things look a lot different than from a home user perspective. I struggle regularly with that idea.
[14:18] <BluesKaj> it's disabled , but still occupying space :(
[14:19] <Riddell> apachelogger: yes I believe that's d_ed's current thinking
[14:19] <shadeslayer> alvin: yes, deprecated code => Unmaintained by upstream
[14:19] <alvin> Is there actually a KDE based distro geared at business use?
[14:19] <BluesKaj> same with nepomuk...krusader ftw serchwise
[14:20] <shadeslayer> alvin: What are the requirements of a buisness apart from good support ?
[14:20] <shadeslayer> Add EMail to that as well :P
[14:22] <BluesKaj> now all we need is kde/email aimed at home users ...I'm going to keep pushing for that and no need for a database tie
[14:22] <alvin> 'Well-tested', and good network integration. You'd want to be able to integrate with LDAP, and have a trustworthy NFS client (believe me, not (K)Ubuntu's strongest point). Aside from that, having a 'works guaranteed' label is fine. For that last reason, Kolab maintains their own version of Kontact to distribute.
[14:24] <alvin> (We're actually using Kubuntu as XDMCP server and client - something that is harder to do with Ubuntu.)
[14:25] <shadeslayer> Riddell: ^ Possible points for discussion at UDS?
[14:27] <alvin> Ignoring mutt, I have yet to meet a better mail client than what Kmail could possibly be again.
[14:30] <Riddell> yes kontact is lovely if you ignore the upgrade and flakeyness issues caused by the akonadi transition
[15:03] <apachelogger> Riddell: how about simply doing the vote on the ml
[15:03] <apachelogger> IMHO all that needs saying is said, all we need is a consensus on what to do
[15:07] <Riddell> apachelogger: if you think kubuntu-council would be happy with that we can try it yes
[15:07] <Riddell> rbelem: hey this active thing is looking good
[15:08] <BluesKaj> restore kmail from kde3 to kde4 without all th enterprise/office baggage :)
[15:09] <apachelogger> Riddell: we can also hold a council vote by mail :P
[15:09] <apachelogger> if it needed further discussion then the topic should have been moved along by you, if there is not enough information to make an informed decision on then the status quo is what should be used :P
[15:10] <Riddell> apachelogger: I agree the discussion is done
[15:30] <apachelogger> Riddell: sent a mail
[15:54] <Riddell> apachelogger: I don't see it
[16:40] <ScottK> OK. Replied.
[16:41] <Riddell> ScottK: to which?
[16:41] <ScottK> The KDE Telepathy/Kopete question.
[16:41] <Riddell> on kubuntu-devel?
[16:42]  * Riddell out
[16:48] <dantti> ScottK, Riddell would you guys be willing to add colord-kde to kubuntu? Fedora has packaged it (tho I need a new release to fix some important bugs), as I'm poking some pople to update colord package
[17:40] <rbelem> Riddell, :-D
[17:41] <rbelem> Riddell, i will finish the kwin stuff on thursday
[17:41] <mgraesslin> rbelem: btw if you have any feedback, please add to the review request
[17:42] <rbelem> Riddell, i will have a webinar to talk about qt sdk and qt quick this wednesday
[17:42] <rbelem> mgraesslin, oki :-)
[17:42] <Darkwing> rbelem: will there be video?
[17:42] <mgraesslin> good, as it is important for us to know whether it makes sense to include the patch or not
[17:43] <rbelem> Darkwing, yup, but in portuguese
[17:44] <Darkwing> damn, last time I tried to tie my very limited spanish into portuguese I failed miserably. lol
[17:46] <rbelem> mgraesslin, it worked very well, otherwise i would have to do lots of renamings and setup package conflicts
[17:46] <rbelem> :-)
[17:46] <mgraesslin> sounds good
[17:46] <mgraesslin> then I just have to check with active group whether there are start scripts to adjust and so on :-)
[17:46] <rbelem> Darkwing, in general we understand spanish, but spanish doesn t understand us
[17:47] <Darkwing> I noticed that when I was in Rio LOL
[17:47] <rbelem> mgraesslin, i can send to you my changes to the active parts by thurday
[17:47] <mgraesslin> oh that would be cool
[17:48] <mgraesslin> or best just open a review request :-)
[17:48] <rbelem> nice
[17:48] <rbelem> will do
[17:48] <rbelem> Darkwing, oh nice! you have been in rio before :-)
[17:49] <rbelem> Darkwing, nowadays rio is a more safe place
[17:49] <Darkwing> rbelem: It was years ago but yes, I loved it.
[17:49] <rbelem> :-D
[17:49] <Darkwing> rbelem: it was in 2004
[17:49] <Darkwing> I did a South American trip.
[17:50]  * dantti avoids going to rio :P
[17:50] <dantti> I can't really imagine how this world cup will be
[17:50] <Darkwing> Rio, straights of Magellan, Valparaiso Chili and Lima Peru.
[17:51] <Darkwing> Those were my South American stops. :)
[17:52] <dantti> Darkwing: my friends told me lime is pretty cool, has some nice places to visit
[17:52] <dantti> *Lima
[17:53] <Darkwing> dantti: It was beautiful. :)
[17:54] <Darkwing> the show Torchwood, spinoff from Doctor Who is kinda strange.
[17:55] <dantti> I should go there some day, I've only been in Argentina and Paraguay
[17:58] <Darkwing> I've been all over the world. Need to go to Africa and Antarctica and I've been to all 7 continents.
[17:58] <Darkwing> and I regret the reason I went but, no one is perfect. :)
[18:02] <Darkwing> rbelem: You going to be at UDS-Q?
[18:05] <rbelem> Darkwing, yup
[18:06] <rbelem> :-)
[18:10] <Darkwing> rbelem: Could you make sure you update this? :) https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/UDSQSeries
[18:13] <jussi> evening all
[18:14] <jussi> dantti: where are you located?
[18:15] <dantti> jussi: Brazil
[18:15] <jussi> dantti: I was aware of that, but which part? :P
[18:15] <dantti> oh :P São Paulo/São Paulo
[18:16] <Darkwing> Hey jussi, did I ever get you my address?
[18:16] <jussi> dantti: ahh ok. Ive probably cause to be in Manaus at some point this summer...
[18:16] <jussi> Darkwing: no
[18:17] <dantti> jussi: nice, it's pretty far from here
[18:17] <jussi> dantti: I realise thats a world away from you, butstill
[18:17] <jussi> btw, I just got this message on update:
[18:17] <jussi> Updating software catalog...this may take a moment.
[18:17] <jussi> WARNING:softwarecenter.db.update:The file: '/usr/share/app-install/desktop/kde-telepathy-send-file:kde4__ktp-send-file.desktop' could not be read correctly. The application associated with this file will not be included in the software catalog. Please consider raising a bug report for this issue with the maintainer of that application
[18:18] <dantti> jussi: is that for me?
[18:18] <Darkwing> jussi: sent
[18:19] <jussi> dantti: no idea, are you the kde telepathy person? :D
[18:19] <dantti> no... because you said btw...
[18:19] <jussi> oh, I meant it for the whole channel
[18:20] <Darkwing> hehehe
[18:40] <georgelappies_> hi all, I installed 12.04 today and must say it is one beautifull looking OS :) Thanks so much for all responsible to getting this out to us
[18:40] <georgelappies_> I would like now however if anybody else experienced a crash to a red terminal screen yet?
[18:40] <georgelappies_> it happened to me twice now and if I can assist the developers by uploading some file or testing something so this gets sorted I am most willing
[18:48] <yofel> anyone tried to use postgresql as akonad backend? Setting it up with the system DB works fine, but I can't get it to work at all with a user DB
[18:49]  * yofel wonders what's eating his letters today
[18:49] <yofel> *akonadi
[19:07] <Darkwing> yofel: I've tried but, I have not been able to get it to work.
[19:46] <dantti> yofel: did you changed the postgres permissions?
[19:47] <yofel> dantti: as in? I did set up a user for the system akonadi DB
[19:47] <dantti> yofel: but how is it allowed to log in?
[19:48] <dantti> there is ident same user which means it will use a socket connection but must be the same user of the local db
[19:48] <dantti> when you create a new user and want it to connect via user/pass you don't use ident same user
[19:48] <yofel> dunno, as I said, the user DB failed
[19:49] <dantti> yofel: you need to edit /etc/postgresql/9.1/main/pg_hba.conf
[19:49] <dantti> from my DB point of view this is 99% of connections fails with postgres... :P
[19:50] <yofel> well, I didn't edit anything there and it worked
[19:50] <dantti> right well the default allows <IP_ADDRESS> connections using md5 so it could work..
[19:58] <Riddell> dantti: generally speaking we're happy to use whatever KDE needs
[19:58] <Riddell> dantti: what's colourd used by?
[19:59] <dantti> Riddell: it can be used by krita, and by users :P (by calibratin their screens)
[20:00] <dantti> gimp also uses it
[20:00] <dantti> cups
[20:00] <dantti> there is an interesting list :P
[20:02] <Riddell> dantti: this it? http://www.freedesktop.org/software/colord/
[20:03] <Riddell> that's in ubuntu main so no beurocracy
[20:03] <dantti> Riddell: yup it is
[20:03] <dantti> Riddell: I've just poked the maintainer since colord-kde needs a newer version of colord
[20:05] <Riddell> dantti: ah so colord-kde is a new thing that is to be used at some point in the future?
[20:06] <dantti> Riddell: yes, it has a kded module to apply ICC profiles to your X screen, and a KCM to manage the profiles for printers, scanners, webcams and displays
[20:06] <dantti> Riddell: I plan to move it to extragear soon, but distros seem to be willing to pick this sooner...
[20:06] <Riddell> first hit on google is a gnome blog :) http://blogs.gnome.org/hughsie/2012/03/21/the-first-colord-kde-release/
[20:07] <dantti> hehe, yes my blog is not that popular...
[20:08] <Riddell> dantti: is there gain to KDE SC 4.8 in packaging this?
[20:08] <Riddell> or would a PPA be fine for now?
[20:08] <dantti> Riddell: well it's a feature some users might like, but surelly a PPA would do the job...
[20:13] <Riddell> dantti: tricky to update colord now though, we're past beta
[20:13] <dantti> hmm well, then even a PPA would be a problem without a newer colord
[20:14] <Riddell> that can go in the PPA too
[20:14] <Riddell> unless it's a major packaging job
[20:15] <dantti> hmm right, well afaik it doesn't introduce major changes so the packaging should be easy I guess
[20:17]  * Riddell adds to the todo list
[20:17] <Riddell> yofel: you were saying about keeping track of things to package? ^^
[20:17] <dantti> Riddell: cool thanks
[20:20] <yofel> I did, but didn't manage to finish what I wanted after playing around on staging.lp.net for a bit.
[22:31] <schnelle_> yofel: in neon ppa kde is from what kde devs call "master"?
[22:31] <yofel> svn trunk / git master, right
[22:32] <schnelle_> I am reporting a bug so I am adding that it also happens in master :) thanks
[22:54] <apachelogger> Riddell: I see now my mail was a grave mistake ^^


[00:51] <ScottK> FYI, all the KDE telepathy/ktp demotions in component mismatches are legit.
[01:10] <infinity> ScottK: Really?  You're dropping all things tp-qt4?
[01:34] <infinity> ScottK: Ahh, kopete/kde-tp flip-flopping, I see.  Kay.
[01:34] <ScottK> infinity: Yes.  We concluded to stay with the legacy program (Kopete) for one more cycle.
[01:34] <ScottK> Yes.
[01:34] <infinity> Yeah, had to check the seeds for the rationale. ;)
[01:34] <ScottK> It was worth a shot, but it's not mature enough yet.
[01:34]  * infinity nods.
[01:34] <infinity> I still use pidgin on GTK desktops, so I can relate.
[01:35] <infinity> (Though empathy is certainly a lot less crap than it used to be... Some day, they'll win me over)
[01:35] <infinity> Anyhow, I'll poke those demotions in a bit, thanks for the heads-up.
[04:12] <infinity> cjwatson: Do you know off-hand why buildlive in production calls "ssh -t" instead of the "ssh -n" found in bzr?
[04:13] <infinity> cjwatson: Given that "ssh -t" to any of the livefs builders spews "PTY allocation request failed on channel 0", I'm not entirely sure it's doing any good. :P
[04:14] <infinity> cjwatson: (Production's been carrying that diff for ages, not sure if you're the one responsible, but I only just now checked to see what it did or didn't do)
[04:27] <slangasek> infinity: that was me, I was attempting to get remote job control for killing runaway live builds
[04:27] <slangasek> (it didn't work)
[04:27] <infinity> Ahh.
[04:27] <infinity> Fine with it being reverted, then?
[04:27] <slangasek> I imagine so
[04:28] <infinity> I just happen to need to touch that line, so I wanted to get production and bzr to agree first. :P
[06:52] <infinity> Hahaha.
[06:53] <micahg> wow
[06:53] <infinity> I'm so tempted to just reject that without even reviewing it.
[06:54] <micahg> infinity: did you check the date (unless you're on the west coast)
[06:54] <infinity> Oh, fair point.
[06:56] <micahg> infinity: he is on the west coast, so maybe reject for being too early :)
[07:20] <knome> btw, for information to the release team as well: http://open.knome.fi/2012/04/01/xubuntu-rebasing-on-debian/
[07:24] <infinity> And it already has serious comments.
[07:24]  * infinity shakes his head.
[14:33] <coolbhavi> hi release team I wanted your comments on  https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/epiphany-extensions/+bug/970525 which seemed fine to me since its an update containing only translations from the previous version of the package in ubuntu
[14:33] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 970525 in epiphany-extensions "Sync epiphany-extensions 3.4.0-1 (universe) from Debian experimental (main)" [Wishlist,New]
[14:34] <coolbhavi> jbicha, hi I was taking a look at your sync request :-)
[14:34] <jbicha> coolbhavi: hi
[18:02] <phillw> infinity: lol @ http://open.knome.fi/2012/04/01/xubuntu-rebasing-on-debian/


[08:39] <Polo> Hi
[08:40] <Polo> I am new on ubuntustudio and i want to know what is the admin password to launch updates
[08:43] <Polo> someone to help me please ?
[19:13] <rpmohn> Hi -- I use x2go to connect back to my UbuntuStudio at home, but it keeps using the XFCE4 session instead of the nice UbuntuStudio session. Anyone know what command I can use to manually launch with that session type?
[19:19] <Eickmeyer> rpmohn: I'm looking into it, but you might be able to ask in #ubuntu.
[19:21] <rpmohn> OK. It's been bugging me! Thanks
[19:24] <Eickmeyer> rpmohn: The command used is basically "startx ubuntustudio-session". Beyond that, I don't know.
[19:39] <rpmohn> Eickmeyer: OK, I will try that now!


[01:54] <superm1> cyphermox: well I submitted this: https://lkml.org/lkml/2016/3/22/733
[01:54] <superm1> Presumably if that is accepted it's better than changing all the tools
[01:56] <cyphermox> superm1: cool


[05:03] <Digiraf> hey there, am having trouble installing monitortouch drivers on lubuntu. can anybody help?
[05:11] <hateball> Digiraf: it is usually quite idle here, just fair warning
[05:12] <hateball> and I've no idea what you are talking about
[05:17] <Digiraf> okay thanks. ihave this old pc with embeded touch screen. i installed lubuntu 12.0.4 en it seems not detecting it with lsusb or xinput
[05:18] <Digiraf> th monitortouch worked with xp embeded
[05:19] <hateball> Digiraf: you know that 12.04 EOL yea?
[05:20] <hateball> (unless you are a paying customer, for which there is a different support)
[05:20] <hateball> Digiraf: so you should install at least 16.04 to be on a more recent and supported release first
[05:21] <Digiraf> yes but sinds the device is very limited am trying to install the lightest OS on it.
[05:23] <hateball> Then you are on your own I guess
[05:23] <Digiraf> okay. is there any chance that problem will be solved with 16.0.04? am going to try o install 16.0.04 on usb and check again. thanks
[05:24] <hateball> I don't know if things will work automatically, but chances are a lot higher at least
[05:24] <Digiraf> thanks a lot. bless u
[05:24] <hateball> At any rate 16.04 is a supported release, so it will be easier to try and get that going at least
[07:32] <s10gopal> HDMI not working , xrandr output HDMI1 disconnected (normal left inverted right x axis y axis) , how to fix it ?
[08:12] <Guest4791> hello there
[08:12] <Guest4791> What is the last LTS version of Lubuntu ?
[08:19] <JohnDoe_71Rus> i guess 16.04
[08:20] <JohnDoe_71Rus> you can wait till 26 april
[08:33] <Guest4791> 26 april the new LTS comes ?
[08:33] <JohnDoe_71Rus> yes
[08:34] <Guest4791> ok thanks
[11:41] <hehehe> hi
[11:41] <hehehe> what is the best way to add a 32 bit bootloader to latest 64 bit iso
[11:42] <hehehe> to run it from usb on intel atom netbook
[11:48] <ubuntum> sorted
[20:07] <radice> hellooo
[23:36] <Thedarkb-X40> Is there any way to return LXDE to its default look instead of the Lubuntu look?
[23:37] <Thedarkb-X40> Other than install Debian?
[23:52] <krytarik> Well, similar to Debian, we got the 'lxde' metapackage too..
[23:54] <Thedarkb-X40> krytarik, Will that get rid of the lubuntu profile?
[23:55] <Unit193> Can't you just select the other session from the login screen?
[23:55] <Thedarkb-X40> Thanks.
[23:55] <Thedarkb-X40> Installing now.


[01:52] <yesitisjustme> my baud rate says 9600 if i try to higher the baud rate can i damage the modem?
[02:07] <balvonas> physically?;]
[02:08] <balvonas> no
[02:13] <yesitisjustme> cause on terminal it says that 9600 is the maximum baut it could safely use something like that
[02:13] <yesitisjustme> baut=baud
[02:19] <yesitisjustme> anyone wich baud rate i choose put
[02:19] <yesitisjustme> ?
[02:20] <balvonas> what is the point of doing that?
[02:21] <yesitisjustme> to get higher speed?
[02:29] <balvonas> you will not get higher speed
[02:29] <yesitisjustme> ok
[05:29] <Balsaq> good morning xubuntu developers, coders, pro hackers and casual observers!
[07:59] <BluShift> I can mount a windows share in Ubuntu fine, by creating a Launcher pointing to a Location, and that Location being smb://server/share -- However, in Xubuntu it's completely different. What's the best way to easily mount a windows share in Xubuntu?
[11:02] <patsbin> Good morning. I'm trying to get Adobe Air and Tweetdeck running under xubunt 9.10 (2.6.31-17-generic x86_64). I used this howto: http://technologycrowd.com/2009/10/22/install-tweetdeck-on-64-bit-ubuntu-linux-desktop-2/ After installing tweetdeck using the installer on the website, I still get the message that Tweetdeck can't find my data. Any ideas?
[11:28] <patsbin> Ok. Found out that the problem is the gnome-keyring-daemon. Using GNOME_DESKTOP_SESSION_ID="whatever_pid" /opt/TweetDeck/bin/TweetDeck works just fine.
[12:19] <BlitzHere> Hello
[12:19] <BlitzHere> I'm new to ubuntu, or rather linux in general
[12:19] <charlie-tca> !hi | BlitzHere
[12:21] <BlitzHere> I've chosen to switch to ubuntu and am trying to figure out which ubuntu version I should use... I'm tilting towards xubuntu but am not sure yet
[12:22] <charlie-tca> What are the specs of your system?
[12:22] <scopecreep> BlitzHere, if you have a relativly fast connection i would try them all, but i love xubuntu personally
[12:23] <BlitzHere> bad connection 256 kbps...
[12:23] <BlitzHere> 1.6 Ghz P4
[12:23] <BlitzHere> 512 meg RAM
[12:23] <BlitzHere> Nvidia FX 5200
[12:23] <BlitzHere> 80 GB SATA 7200 rpm HDD
[12:23] <scopecreep> hmm yeah, while im a noob myself i would imagine xfce would be good with that system
[12:24] <charlie-tca> Any of them should work for you. Personally, I use Xubuntu. It works very good on my old hardware and on my new system.
[12:24] <scopecreep> the only bottleneck i see is the ram
[12:24] <scopecreep> same, i use it on my best and worst system
[12:24] <BlitzHere> well.. the most important issue for me is performance
[12:24] <BlitzHere> I don't care about the looks
[12:25] <BlitzHere> as long as it doesn't hamper ease-of-use
[12:25] <scopecreep> spoken like someone who gets paid by the job, i respect that
[12:25] <scopecreep> the cool part (i think) about xfce is that it can use anything gnome can pretty much
[12:26] <scopecreep> so as bare bones or as bling bling as you want it, its been done and documented
[12:26] <scopecreep> plus i have ADD and i like having few distractions
[12:27] <scopecreep> other than vodka on snow days of course
[12:29] <BlitzHere> I should be using the system for some general office work (minor word processing, presentations and spreadsheets on openoffice), and a good amount of multimedia processing (music, movies, from the HDD, CD or DVD) and a good amount of gaming (primarily Linux native games plus some DOSBox games and a couple of the smaller Windows which are known to work on Wine)
[12:29] <BlitzHere> Does Xubuntu offer significant performance gains?
[12:29] <scopecreep> not gains as much as less overhead
[12:29] <BlitzHere> Oh and having Firefox open with like 100 tabs...
[12:29] <scopecreep> so depending on how you interperate it
[12:30] <BlitzHere> less overhead, as in?
[12:30] <scopecreep> kde and gnome are both very nice, but they do lots of stuff that i would call fluff
[12:31] <scopecreep> bear in mind im a noob still myself, just about 9 months of linux use
[12:31] <scopecreep> but for example i dont need a recent document manager, i have one called my brain
[12:32] <BlitzHere> eh, when you are speaking with someone who has about 1 day of Linux experience and a LOT of windows experience... think you'd be a genius
[12:32] <BlitzHere> Working on windows too much makes it harder to shift
[12:32] <scopecreep> its not so bad man
[12:32] <balvonas> what do you mean with "windows experience" BlitzHere ?
[12:33] <scopecreep> you could jump right in xubuntu with little trouble if your network hardware works
[12:33] <BlitzHere> and fluff as in windows doing funky blinking/bending?
[12:33] <scopecreep> yeah fades, drop shadows
[12:33] <scopecreep> among many other things
[12:34] <scopecreep> xfce just does what needs to be done to manage windows
[12:34] <BlitzHere> balvonas: nothing profesional, but can do just about anything on Windows and DOS
[12:35] <scopecreep> it also does anything else, you just have to install that extra if you will
[12:35] <scopecreep> i have 8 gigs of ram and im still miserly about it
[12:36] <scopecreep> firefox will still be the bane of your existance
[12:36] <BlitzHere> firefox?? hmm?
[12:36] <scopecreep> although i hear there is a firefox addin that reduces memory usage
[12:36] <balvonas> nah, firefox is crap
[12:36] <scopecreep> im the type of guy that leaves one instance of firefox open for like 2 weeks in some cases
[12:36] <BlitzHere> Eh, it works fine for me on WinXP... if it can do that much, that's works for me
[12:36] <BlitzHere> balvonas: recommendation?
[12:36] <balvonas> chrome
[12:37] <scopecreep> is it in apt yet?
[12:37] <balvonas> nope
[12:37] <scopecreep> bah too much work
[12:37] <scopecreep> hehe
[12:37] <balvonas> one line to cli is too much work?
[12:37] <scopecreep> i run that for gmail and wave
[12:37] <scopecreep> chrome that is
[12:37] <BlitzHere> eh, I've used that too when it first cam out...but stopped cuz some of the addons I needed weren't on it yet...
[12:38] <scopecreep> but thats at work
[12:38] <scopecreep> adblock never worked right for me
[12:38] <scopecreep> neither of the chrome blockers
[12:38] <BlitzHere> hmm..it does good for me. I've been using it since my dialup days.
[12:38] <scopecreep> downloading the movie and just not playing it doesnt make me happy
[12:38] <BlitzHere> Hmm...?
[12:38] <scopecreep> elinks or death?
[12:39] <scopecreep> heh as if you could survive 1 day with links
[12:39] <charlie-tca> You could always try midori, for a lightweight browser
[12:39]  * BlitzHere goes to google that
[12:40] <scopecreep> im a fan of webkit
[12:40] <scopecreep> and i dont dislike google4
[12:40] <scopecreep> but, hmm... i dont trust anyone
[12:40] <BlitzHere> its also a microsoft research OS O.o
[12:41] <scopecreep> and a crappy liqour
[12:41] <charlie-tca> BlitzHere: midori?
[12:41] <BlitzHere> yes
[12:41] <charlie-tca> search on google instead of bling
[12:41] <BlitzHere> Midori (operating system) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
[12:42] <BlitzHere> first result on google
[12:42] <charlie-tca> weird
[12:42] <scopecreep> i read somewhere about a minimilist browser based on the unix paridigm
[12:42] <BlitzHere> yeah, and I get the browser as result 2
[12:42] <charlie-tca> It is a browser developed and maintained by the fine folks at Xfce
[12:42] <scopecreep> but yeah im drinking so all i can think of is drink names now
[12:42] <charlie-tca> It is also in the repositories, so you can install and test it easily
[12:43] <scopecreep> orly
[12:43] <BlitzHere> I got that too... it's "also" a MS OS
[12:43] <scopecreep> 4 hole megs eh? i got my eye on you
[12:47] <BlitzHere> hmm...searching on google.com doesn't give out the midori web brwser at all... google.co.in gives it as the second result...odd
[12:47] <scopecreep> payola
[12:47] <scopecreep> ? or .
[12:54] <BlitzHere> Before I forget, Xubuntu uses the same package system as Ubuntu, right? i.e. it has all the packages that are available for ubuntu? I don't really how this package system works, so I have to ask...
[12:56] <charlie-tca> BlitzHere: you are correct
[12:56] <BlitzHere> thx
[12:57] <charlie-tca> If you are using a live cd or have it installed, you can go to Applications -> System -> Synaptic Package Manager and view all the packages available
[12:57] <charlie-tca> You can also search there for any package by name or description
[12:59] <BlitzHere> so, basically any application or driver that I am looking for should be available there?
[12:59] <BlitzHere> For example I'
[13:00] <BlitzHere> d be looking for the proprietary NVidia river
[13:00] <BlitzHere> driv*er
[13:01] <charlie-tca> Why?
[13:01] <charlie-tca> look in Applications -> System -> Hardware Drivers and see what it recommends
[13:01] <BlitzHere> I have an FX5200 card... shouldn't I be looking for teh NVidia linux driver?
[13:01] <charlie-tca> You would activate that there, also
[13:01] <BlitzHere> ah..ok
[13:02] <BlitzHere> will keep that in mind
[13:02] <charlie-tca> You don't need the proprietary drivers unless you need 3d display, most of the time
[13:02] <BlitzHere> 1 word... games
[13:03] <charlie-tca> 2 words, I don't
[13:03] <BlitzHere> mostly stuff like Vega strike
[13:03] <charlie-tca> games means nothing to me, I don't play them
[13:03] <BlitzHere> ah, ok but I do, and I'm assuming I'd need the drivers...
[13:04] <BlitzHere> anyway, VLC media player/KM player should be available there? right?
[13:04] <charlie-tca> yup
[13:05] <BlitzHere> what were you saying about a cli command for chrome?
[13:05] <charlie-tca> That wasn't me, I don't use it
[13:06] <charlie-tca> chrome is the google operating system, isn't it? Chromium should be the browser itself
[13:06] <BlitzHere> nope, chrome is also the browwser
[13:06] <BlitzHere> chrome OS is the netbook OS
[13:06] <charlie-tca> Or is chrome the windows browser, and chromium the linux browser?
[13:06] <BlitzHere> which is designed to work with specific hardware
[13:07] <BlitzHere> http://www.google.com/chrome?platform=linux
[13:08] <BlitzHere> hmm...this is from the picasa linux page
[13:08] <BlitzHere> Desktop Integration features require a current version of Gnome or KDE.
[16:21] <tivotyro> Good morning folks
[16:21] <tivotyro> I am running latest xubuntu - livecd version installed on a usb with persistence - and I am trying to autohide the panels.  Anyone know of a way to do that?
[16:22] <Sysi> right click -> customize panel
[16:22] <Sysi> there's tap autohide
[16:22] <tivotyro> right click on the panel or on the desktop?
[16:22] <Sysi> panel
[16:23] <tivotyro> hmmm, I didn't see that option.  Will have to look more carefully.
[16:23] <tivotyro> so you don't have to gconftool or gconfig-editor or anything like that which you have to do in ubuntu?
[16:24] <Sysi> i think there are same option
[16:25] <tivotyro> ok, well now I feel stupid.  I never saw that before on ubuntu but sure enough it is there.
[16:25] <Sysi> :)
[16:26] <tivotyro> off I go.  Thanks for the help.
[17:42] <muzy> Hello everyone, I have a little font-problem.. I just copied some font files into /etc/x11/fonts/ but these font's are not recognized. Any idea?
[17:43] <charlie-tca> !fonts
[17:45] <muzy> thanks
[18:03] <Sachse_Siechtum> Since I got "log in automaticly in Xubuntu" I lost the "quit options" dialog when I click on the quit button.
[18:03] <Sachse_Siechtum> where you get "log off, standby, shut down...ect"
[18:04] <Sachse_Siechtum> now when I click the "quit button" I just quit to the login screen
[18:07] <Sachse_Siechtum> problem solved
[18:07] <Sachse_Siechtum> just googled it
[20:48] <cPt> hello
[20:48] <cPt> i have some problems with my wireless
[20:48] <cPt> just installed xubuntu on my laptop
[20:48] <cPt> i made a new wireless connection, entered SSID, MAC and WEP
[20:49] <cPt> but it doesnt connect
[20:49] <cPt> any suggestions?
[20:49] <muzy> is your wlan interface working?
[20:50] <muzy> (e.g. does it appear in "iwlist"?)
[20:52] <cPt> i get "failed to read scan data : Network is down" on wlan0
[20:54] <muzy> do you have the wlan device powered on?
[20:54] <cPt> I should have, unless the default is off
[20:54] <muzy> does lspci or lsusb show the device?
[20:55] <cPt> yes it does
[20:55] <muzy> are the drivers loaded?
[20:55] <muzy> (check dmesg)
[20:56] <cPt> ah, it says i need to go to wireless.kernel.org to download drivers
[20:56] <cPt> thanks a lot :)
[20:56] <muzy> well wait cPt
[20:56] <muzy> what card is it?
[20:57] <muzy> maybe you just have to install a package with apt
[20:57] <cPt> Broadcom BCM4318 [AirForce One 54G]
[20:57] <Sysi> have you tried just to click icon in panel?
[20:57] <cPt> yes
[20:58] <Sysi> what does it show?
[20:58] <muzy> Yeah there is a Panel Option "Hardware Drivers"
[20:58] <muzy> it should automatically show you what you have to install
[20:58] <cPt> Thanks!
[20:58] <muzy> and it will allow you to install it automatically
[20:58] <Sysi> i meant the nm-applet icon
[20:58] <cPt> thanks a lot
[20:58] <cPt> new to ubuntu
[20:58] <Sysi> i just needed to click for connecting wlan
[20:59] <muzy> no problem, you are welcome
[20:59] <muzy> Sysi, some drivers are missing in this case
[20:59] <muzy> so he won't be able to connect though
[21:01] <muzy> *he/she/it
[21:01] <muzy> sorry everyone
[21:01] <Sysi> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx
[21:16] <Crewsr3_> how do I connect to a network share in xubuntu?
[21:57] <balvonas> q
[23:11] <jussi01> any of the regular named ops around atm?
[23:14] <knome> jussi01, o/ ? :P
[23:26] <jussi01> knome: Im looking for someone to pop something about #ubuntu-irc-helpers to /topic as I dont think its appropriate for me to do it with just irc council privelidges
[23:28] <knome> ah
[23:28] <knome> i don't think i can do that. :P
[23:29] <jussi01> knome: why not?
[23:30] <knome> jussi01, i'm only op at #xubuntu
[23:30] <knome> i think.
[23:31] <jussi01> knome: yup, and thats what Im after, something in the topic here about #ubuntu-irc-helpers
[23:31] <knome> oh, topic HERE
[23:31] <knome> lol
[23:31] <knome> &n
[23:31] <knome> oops
[23:31] <knome> :)
[23:31] <apoc90> can somebody help me? i can't login to my Xubuntu desktop but i can get into GNOME, when i select Xfce if just takes me back to the login screen over and over. I can however get into Xfce with a brand new user i just created.
[23:31] <jussi01> ok, now bed for me
[23:32] <knome> jussi01, see PM!
[23:33] <knome> hmm
[23:34] <knome> apoc90, there's probably something wrong in the session with your user
[23:34] <apoc90> oh
[23:34] <apoc90> how would i go about fixing that?
[23:34] <apoc90> i'm sorry i'm very new =[
[23:34] <knome> charlie-tca, can you remember particular files?
[23:34] <knome> np, we all have to start womewhere
[23:34] <knome> ...somewhere
[23:35] <charlie-tca> .config and .cache, and maybe .local
[23:35] <knome> apoc90, those are folders in your home directory
[23:35] <charlie-tca> apoc90: they are hidden files, so you will need to turn on "view hidden files" under the View menu in thunar
[23:36] <apoc90> I already have that enabled,
[23:36] <apoc90> which folder would it be in?
[23:36] <charlie-tca> Those will be three folders in /home/YOUR_USER_NAME/
[23:36] <charlie-tca> in the broken users name
[23:37] <apoc90> I have 50 folders in the broken user name's folder
[23:38] <knome> /home/username/.config
[23:38] <knome> /home/username/.cache
[23:38] <knome> /home/username/.local
[23:38] <charlie-tca> It will remove the configuration settings, but should let you use that name again
[23:39] <apoc90> Oh so i delete these folders?
[23:39] <charlie-tca> Wait
[23:39] <charlie-tca> look at /home/username/.ICEauthority  and see if your user owns it or root?
[23:40] <apoc90> Yeah, I have that file in the username directory
[23:40] <apoc90> I can't open it, should i just open it with gedit or something?
[23:41] <charlie-tca> Okay, check properties and see if it listed as root or username
[23:41] <charlie-tca> You can't open it. It is in a format you can't read
[23:41] <charlie-tca> But if root is the file owner, you can't log in
[23:42] <apoc90> Under the "Permissions" tab, it states that the owner is my username
[23:42] <apoc90> the username that I am failing to login to that is
[23:43] <charlie-tca> okay, then you will need to delete folders. Just delete the /home/username/.cache and /home/username/.config  and try to log in
[23:43] <charlie-tca> If it fails, delete /home/username/.local also
[23:44] <apoc90> ok ill be right back
[23:46] <apoc90> Charlie, it worked! Thanks alot I really appreciate it.
[23:46] <apoc90> Thank you too knome
[23:47] <charlie-tca> You are welcome
[23:50] <knome> np
[23:51]  * charlie-tca thinks it is a bit of a pain to put the settings back the way you want it, but at least the user is usable
[23:51] <knome> true
[23:52] <knome> though i always try to push those things as default which i will use/see most people using anyway
[23:52] <charlie-tca> yup
[23:52] <charlie-tca> makes it easier that way