[03:43] <rob227> i would think it should also be set to ICEnsemble but i don't know how to do it. I think i am getting devices confused with channels. I'm a noob
[03:43] <gnutron> Yamikuronue: you have windows on it?
[03:43] <Yamikuronue> gnutron: nope, not right now. I failed miserably with windows so just wiped it all and put ubuntu on it
[03:44] <gnutron> Yamikuronue: just tell it to use the entire disk
[03:44] <tyebud> izinucs: and then I can copy and paste from one document to another?
[03:44] <slayerboyWRK> Yamikuronue: and all your having problems with in Ubuntu is getting video to come up?
[03:44] <rob227> gnutron: Audigy is not an option
[03:44] <rob227> ICEnsembler controls my sound in the right speaker for sure
[03:44] <izinucs> tyebud, yep
[03:44] <gnutron> rob227: does dmesg detect it
[03:44] <Yamikuronue> slayerboyWRK: yeah.
[03:44] <tyebud> izinucs: God I hope this works
[03:45] <tyebud> izinucs: Thank you for your help
[03:45] <izinucs> tyebud, did it work?
[03:45] <rkvirani_> I love my netbook
[03:45] <amikrop> Is the helvetica font included in Ubuntu, without the installation of msttcorefonts?
[03:45] <slayerboyWRK> Yamikuronue: what kind of laptop is it?  wondering if there's an issue with the integrated video card?
[03:45] <tyebud> izinucs: one sec
[03:45] <rkvirani_> so rad with ubuntu netbook remix
[03:45] <izinucs> amikrop, probably something similar but not by that name
[03:45] <Yamikuronue> slayerboyWRK: thinkpad T500. Thinkwiki tells me it ought to work but I have no idea what I'm doing with a command prompt so... got any ideas before I reformat it?
[03:46] <gnutron> tyebud: cat  /proc/bus/input/devices  > some-filename  should work
[03:46] <thyarrizka> assalamualaikum
[03:46] <rob227> gnutron: not sure what dmesg is. Can you elaborate
[03:46] <amikrop> izinucs: ok, thx
[03:46] <izinucs> gnutron, kinda like I said :)
[03:46] <rkvirani_> gnutron: CLICK ON THE TERMINAL ICON
[03:46] <gnutron> rob227: in a terminal type dmesg |less  see if it detects the card
[03:46] <rkvirani_> then type dmesg
[03:46] <rkvirani_> (sorry ops for caps
[03:46] <dnyy> Err, internet disconnected.    But, then again, I don't use windows...
[03:49] <tyebud> izinucs: cat /proc/bus/input/devices    the text file output worked, but I couldn't copy and paste between nano instances
[03:49] <gnutron> windows overwrites the mbr which totally whacks grub
[03:49] <dnyy> Baba_B00ie: Deadlines and not having the time (currently) to learn to use Gimp to it's potential. :/
[03:49] <mezquitale> anyone knows how to change the look and feel so it looks like redmond
[03:49] <L3Tum> It didn't delete mine, I just used gParted to create a second partition after ubuntu, then installed vista on that
[03:49] <Yamikuronue> tritium: this laptop is my first adventure with linux, I got sick to death of vista and winXP refused to install over it.
[03:49] <Yamikuronue> and ubuntu is ncie and pretty and I want to play with it... if only it'd work
[03:49] <Yamikuronue> anyway, reformat ho I suppose
[03:49] <mezquitale> !look and feel
[03:49] <Baba_B00ie> gimp is frickin' amazing. but i'm no pro at it.. it does way to much than i need.. lol
[03:50] <izinucs> tyebud, can you open it in gedit?
[03:50] <dnyy> L3Tum: maybe vista got better, who knows.  i'm gonna have to go with xp, though.
[03:50] <a-l-p-h-a> Instead of VNC, is there a way to remote desktop to a single machine? where by, it's headless, like microsoft terminal server, but for ubuntu/xorg? And allow multiple users to connect to the same machine?
[03:50] <tyebud> izinucs: I don't have a windows environment.  It's command line only
[03:50] <izinucs> tyebud, hang on let me try here.
[03:51] <gnutron> I gotta go
[03:51] <surfjdh> someone I need help
[03:51] <MindVirus> Hi. My gnome-terminal's a bit screwered. When I type a line too long the line disappears seems to move back like 70 characters.
[03:51] <tyebud> izinucs: The problem I'm having is that the name I want to copy has special symbols in it.
[03:51] <surfjdh> I have a /etc/fstab problem
[03:51] <slayerboyWRK> Yamikuronue: when you installed ubuntu, beforehand, did you change your graphics in the BIOS?
[03:51] <L3Tum> dnyy: Yeah, I don't know about xp. If it weren't for games, I wouldn't have windows at all
[03:51] <MindVirus> The cursor shifts 70 characters left and the line itself goes up a line and back 70 characters, because when I press home, the cursor ends up on the line above.
[03:51] <rob227> gnutron: Not sure if it was detected or not using that method here is the pastebin http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/83306/
[03:51] <tyebud> izinucs: Otherwise I would just type it in myself
[03:51] <surfjdh> anyone wanna help
[03:51] <Yamikuronue> slayerboyWRK: I didn't touch the bios
[03:51] <surfjdh> ?
[03:52] <surfjdh> I need someone to tell me how to get my sd card to not be read-only
[03:52] <slayerboyWRK> Yamikuronue: check the "Before Installation" part http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/Install_Ubuntu_8.10_(Intrepid_Ibex)_on_a_Thinkpad_T500
[03:52] <izinucs> tyebud, I just did it.. highlight what you want to copy and then go the next instance of nano and middle click .. if you don't have a middle click then the right and left mouse buttons at the same time.
[03:52] <tyebud> izinucs: I don't have a gnome, or kde though.  I don't even have a mouse :)
[03:52] <surfjdh> so anyone wanna help?
[03:52] <rkvirani_> surfjdh: man /etc/fstab
[03:52] <surfjdh> ...
[03:53] <surfjdh> ok thats not really helpful
[03:53] <rkvirani_> you have to add 'ro' to your /etc/fstab under the options for the sdcard
[03:53] <rkvirani_> surfjdh: uhh learn how to read
[03:53] <surfjdh> that makes it READONLY
[03:53] <izinucs> tyebud, that was my next thing.. if you don't have a mouse then someone will have to you what the shortcut keys are for middle click .. if there is one.
[03:53] <surfjdh> durr
[03:53] <surfjdh> i need it to remain rw
[03:53] <rkvirani_> surfjdh: surfjdh didnt you just say you want it read-only
[03:53] <surfjdh> or rwx
[03:53] <rkvirani_> 'remain\
[03:53] <tritium> !enter | surfjdh
[03:53] <rkvirani_> what do you mean remain
[03:53] <surfjdh> 10:52:08 PM) surfjdh: I need someone to tell me how to get my sd card to not be read-only
[03:54] <rkvirani_> surfjdh: hahaaa lmao
[03:54] <surfjdh> to not be read-only
[03:54] <izinucs> tyebud, you must like the command line only.. or maybe you're just a massochist
[03:54] <rkvirani_> check the write protect tab on the card
[03:54] <surfjdh> nope
[03:54] <surfjdh> doesn't even have one
[03:54] <Yamikuronue> slayerboy: great, now you tell me. I bet that's why I have to use the alternate install disk too. When it reboots post-reformat I'll edit the settings
[03:54] <rkvirani_> hrm... what file system is it?
[03:54] <surfjdh> I ripped that bitch off i was soo mad
[03:54] <tritium> surfjdh: please see above about !enter
[03:54] <surfjdh> vfat
[03:54] <surfjdh> fat16
[03:54] <tritium> surfjdh: and watch the language, please
[03:54] <tyebud> izinucs: LoL.  It's an htpc.  Barebones boxee install.
[03:54] <rkvirani_> surfjdh: well if you ripped it off then...
[03:54] <surfjdh> its for my cell phone
[03:54] <surfjdh> it was ro before i ripped it off
[03:54] <slayerboyWRK> Yamikuronue: yeah I just found that page :P
[03:55] <izinucs> tyebud, what are you doing with it?
[03:55] <tyebud> izinucs: Eventually I won't even have a keyboard :)
[03:55] <rkvirani_> surfjdh: then its the filesystem
[03:55] <surfjdh> my card reader doesnt ever have the lock mechanism
[03:55] <rkvirani_> did you try formatting it?
[03:55] <surfjdh> gparted cant see it
[03:55] <Yamikuronue> slayerboyWRK: heh, I feel stupid because I've been staring at it for a while. I skimmed until I read "should work out of the box" and went all "grr" lol
[03:55] <rkvirani_> surfjdh: the card has it
[03:55] <surfjdh> but it mounts anyways
[03:55] <rkvirani_> not the card reader
[03:55] <surfjdh> wtf is that
[03:55] <izinucs> tyebud, got a usb port on it? got a spare mouse?
[03:55] <rkvirani_> gparted cant see it
[03:55] <rkvirani_> I think its corrupt
[03:55] <surfjdh> nope
[03:55] <izinucs> !language | surfjdh
[03:55] <surfjdh> did fsck
[03:55] <surfjdh> its fine
[03:56] <tyebud> izinucs: I do.  But no windows environment
[03:56] <rkvirani_> and it you dont know what a filesystem is then you need to read about computers in general
[03:56] <tyebud> izinucs: Mouse wouldn't do any good :)
[03:56] <rkvirani_> fsck eh
[03:56] <izinucs> tyebud, doesn't matter.. I don't think you need the gui for the mouse to do it's thing.. worth a try?
[03:56] <rkvirani_> hrm... did it report anything
[03:56] <surfjdh> one messed up block
[03:56] <rkvirani_> try running bad-blocks agains the file
[03:56] <surfjdh> it fixed it
[03:56] <Baba_B00ie> whats a CLI web browser besides lynx ? that's worth a looksy ?
[03:57] <surfjdh> the problem lies in a cryptic output from dmesg
[03:57] <eseven73> links2, w3m
[03:57] <izinucs> tyebud, that is just for the middle clicks.. obviously it won't move a cursor or anything :-)
[03:57] <qcjn> i'm back
[03:57] <rkvirani_> err I think you can set a flag in fdisk
[03:57] <rkvirani_> possibly
[03:57] <tritium> surfjdh: you've been told about !enter.  Please try it ;)
[03:57] <surfjdh> it looks something like this
[03:57] <rkvirani_> what does the filesystem report as in fdisk
[03:57] <surfjdh>  8562.754652] attempt to access beyond end of device
[03:57] <surfjdh> [ 8562.754654] sdf: rw=0, want=3932160, limit=1966081
[03:57] <surfjdh> wtf is !enter
[03:57] <rkvirani_> surfjdh: heh
[03:58] <Jack_Sparrow> !enter surfjdh rkvirani_
[03:58] <izinucs> !enter | surfjdh
[03:58] <rkvirani_> surfjdh: the enter key
[03:58] <tyebud> izinucs: Give me a second.  The computer is on the other side of the house
[03:58] <rkvirani_> type your response in full THEN press enter
[03:58] <Jack_Sparrow> surfjdh Please dont swear even in shorthand.
[03:58] <surfjdh> ok
[03:58] <qcjn> schnauzer: wonder if i change back to 24 in my xorg.conf
[03:58] <rkvirani_> and it looks like your file system is screwed up based on the line you sent me
[03:58] <L3Tum> surfjdh: Don't keep pressing enter, with only a few words on each line. Type what you have to say, then hit enter. When you keep pressing enter after each word its called flooding and it gets annoying
[03:58] <rkvirani_> looks like the geometry is messed up
[03:58] <qcjn> schnauzer: and see what it does ?
[03:58] <tritium> surfjdh: you really need to pay attention to what you've been told/asked
[03:58] <surfjdh> I know, it probably is, but I cant reformat it because gparted cant SEE IT
[03:59] <rkvirani_> back the card up and re-parition and then reformat it
[03:59] <mastastealth> hey guys, I just threw in a 6800 into a PC running 8.10. I thought since the last card was a Geforce 2 all I needed to do was uninstall and reinstall the nv drivers from 96 to 177. after some fiddling it seems this whole thing has gone out of whack. wireless stopped working, and mouse wont move. am using nv drivers to get X start, can someone help?
[03:59] <surfjdh> you hear meGPARTED CANT SEE IT
[03:59] <rkvirani_> surfjdh: why are you GPARTED
[03:59] <rebel_kid> is there a decent countdown timer to display the D:H:M:S until a specified date?
[03:59] <surfjdh> mkfs.vfat doesn't work
[03:59] <rkvirani_> ass-tart I can hear you
[03:59] <rkvirani_> fdisk
[03:59] <rkvirani_> use fdisk
[03:59] <rkvirani_> remove the partition
[03:59] <rkvirani_> then re-add it
[03:59] <tritium> !enter | rkvirani_
[03:59] <FloodBot1> rkvirani_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:00] <rkvirani_> this\
[04:00] <rkvirani_> is
[04:00] <rkvirani_>  a
[04:00] <rkvirani_> test
[04:00] <FloodBot1> rkvirani_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:00] <surfjdh> Unable to open /dev/sdf1
[04:00] <rkvirani_> just checking my enter key works
[04:00] <rkvirani_> lol
[04:00] <tyebud> izinucs: oooh... I have an idea.  I can delete everything from the output except the name I need, open the Keymap.xml, the insert the file where I need it
[04:00] <tritium> rkvirani_: tread lightly
[04:00] <schnauzer> qcjn: might work
[04:01] <FLAME> hello everyone
[04:01] <qcjn> schnauzer: i ll try to see
[04:01] <surfjdh> ok so the strange thing is my phone can read and write to it just fine
[04:01] <surfjdh> so it must be dbus fstab or mtab
[04:01] <GhostlyDeath> What's the code name of 8.10?
[04:01] <surfjdh> I just have no freaking idea
[04:01] <schnauzer> GhostlyDeath: Intrepid Ibex
[04:01] <izinucs> tyebud, sounds good but now you have my curiosity up.. what are you doing?
[04:01] <macjason0607> guys i have a question .. i have video i took that is in a format that is crappy .. what can i use to convert it and make it look decent ?
[04:02] <tritium> g2g591||Away: please disable that
[04:02] <GhostlyDeath> What about the last release?
[04:02] <g2g591||Away> lolwut
[04:02] <L3Tum> macjason0607, if the quality is crappy, no conversion will make it better
[04:02] <g2g591||Away> I was just changing my nick
[04:02] <surfjdh> so what to do, anyone wanna help
[04:02] <tyebud> izinucs: the name has special characters that I don't know how to type in the cli.  So I need to copy and paste the string to preserve the name correctly
[04:02] <izinucs> I'm looking for a pdf page extractor/combiner that is graphical.. pdfedit doesn't seem to function.. any suggestions?
[04:03] <tritium> !nickspam | g2g591||Away
[04:03] <surfjdh> izinucs:lrn2add/remove
[04:03] <izinucs> tyebud, I got that before.. but what is it suppose to do?
[04:03] <g2g591||Away> just changed it once is all, sorry
[04:03] <izinucs> surfjdh, Is that a suggestion or just an offhand misguided comment?
[04:04] <surfjdh> a little of both
[04:04] <tritium> g2g591||Away: imagine if everyone did that when they set themselves /away
[04:04] <surfjdh> getdeb; etc
[04:04] <Jack_Sparrow> g2g591||Away the away part is what caught our attention, it looks like a a repeating away message
[04:04] <g2g591||Away> I am not away
[04:04] <g2g591||Away> I understand the confusion
[04:04] <tritium> g2g591||Away: cool, thanks
[04:04] <surfjdh> so, sd card is stuck on read-only need help with fstab
[04:04] <surfjdh> SOMEONE?
[04:04] <schnauzer> GhostlyDeath: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DevelopmentCodeNames
[04:04] <izinucs> surfjdh, how 'bout apt-cache search <something> or synaptic.. you missed those two.. oh.. also aptitude.. .. DOH!
[04:05] <qcjn> schnauzer: this is my card...GeForce4 MX 4000 ! i've changed it, now i have to restart xwindow again ?
[04:05] <Jack_Sparrow> surfjdh Sounds like it was locked down, you will need to force mount it to write
[04:05] <mastastealth> I removed xorg.conf, reboot and gdm starts fine (not sure with which drivers) but the keyboard nor mouse work now. it also didnt generate a new xorg.conf, is that normal?
[04:05] <tyebud> izinucs: It's going to be my remote control
[04:05] <surfjdh> (need help?, dont be a jerk)
[04:05] <schnauzer> qcjn: Every time you change something in xorg.conf, you have to restart the X server.
[04:05] <surfjdh> force mount doesn't work
[04:05] <qcjn> schnauzer: ok
[04:05] <surfjdh> I already said that
[04:05] <qcjn> schnauzer: be back
[04:05] <Jack_Sparrow> surfjdh I just got back...
[04:05] <slayerboyWRK> surfjdh: what does the line in fstab for your SD card look like?
[04:06] <izinucs> tyebud, ah.. sounds like a lot of fun.. like a mythTV box or something?
[04:06] <Jack_Sparrow> surfjdh what format on the card
[04:06] <surfjdh> hold on
[04:06] <surfjdh> /dev/sdf1       /media/disk-1 vfatrw,nodev,sync,noatime,umask=000,iocharset=utf8 0 0
[04:06] <tyebud> izinucs: Exactly.  Have you heard of boxee?
[04:06] <surfjdh> I sorta made it myself
[04:06] <Jack_Sparrow> surfjdh yea.. looks like it
[04:06] <izinucs> tyebud, just starting to ring a bell.. what tuner card are you using?
[04:07] <Jack_Sparrow> surfjdh what is vfatrw ?
[04:07] <surfjdh> well its not exactly like that, it has been changed like 20 times in the past hour
[04:07] <g2g591> surfjdh: put a space between vfat and rw
[04:07] <surfjdh> parrow: surfjdh what is vfatrw ?
[04:07] <Logikos> hi, i installed wine, from ubuntu 8.04 but now realize i need a newer version at least 1.1.7 ... how do i upgrade to the new version?
[04:07] <surfjdh> i know i know
[04:07] <tyebud> izinucs: nada.  just a streaming box.  It has all the network streaming support built in, like hulu, comedy central, cnn, etc
[04:07] <Jack_Sparrow> Logikos /j #winehq
[04:07] <tyebud> izinucs: So like comcast on demand, but free
[04:07] <Logikos> Jack_Sparrow: thanks
[04:07] <surfjdh> not it wont even let me mount it, I am getting really pissed
[04:07] <jtaji> Logikos: http://winehq.org/download/deb
[04:08] <surfjdh> now*
[04:08] <Logikos> jtaji: thanks
[04:08] <Killer--Tux> help with adjusting reslution on my pc
[04:08] <slayerboyWRK> Logikos: http://www.winehq.org/download/deb
[04:08] <izinucs> tyebud, nice.. where do you find the streaming channel addresses? or is there another program that does that automagiclly?
[04:08] <Jack_Sparrow> surfjdh I would rem out that line....  in fstab..   restartx.. and force mount from cli
[04:08] <tritium> surfjdh: family-friendly, please.  Remember?
[04:08] <tyebud> izinucs: And I've got all the various roommates music libraries shared to the box, so it has a massive library of music
[04:08] <surfjdh> attempted
[04:08] <surfjdh> failed
[04:08] <tyebud> izinucs: It's built into boxee.   check it out.   www.boxee.tv
[04:09] <izinucs> tyebud, thanks..!
[04:09] <surfjdh> piss*d isn't family friendly?, guess I grew up in a rough family
[04:09] <tritium> surfjdh: there is no need for you to use it.
[04:09] <tyebud> izinucs: I basically messed myself the first time I saw it.
[04:09] <surfjdh> well im angry then, very angry I have been working on this one problem for the better half of 2 hours
[04:09] <izinucs> tyebud, this is nice.. did you have to compile it or is there a deb?
[04:09] <Chrysalis> whats easyest way to pastebin from command line
[04:10] <bazhang> Chrysalis, use pastebinit
[04:10] <tyebud> izinucs: There's an aptitude repo
[04:10] <Jack_Sparrow> surfjdh Sorry to hear that, but dont bite the hand that is trying to help
[04:10] <tyebud> izinucs: Watch the video.  it's awesome
[04:10] <slayerboyWRK> surfjdh: what command are you using to force mount the SD card?
[04:10] <surfjdh> sorry
[04:10] <surfjdh>  sudo mount /dev/sdf1 -o rw,force
[04:10] <surfjdh> [sudo] password for jd:
[04:10] <surfjdh> mount: block device /dev/sdf1 is write-protected, mounting read-only
[04:11] <FloodBot1> surfjdh: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:11] <izinucs> tyebud, thanks.. this one I'll have to put in my "recommended programs" list.. :)
[04:11] <surfjdh> AARRGGHH
[04:11] <tyebud> izinucs: definitely!  They have windows and mac versions too
[04:11] <izinucs> tyebud, too cool
[04:11] <qcjn> schnauzer: back, it worked..the screensaver looks better, but about the video, or diaporama i ll have to check
[04:11] <uman> Hey guys, im in ubuntu 8.10 and i am using a usb sd card reader with 2 different cards, the 1 gb card works just fine( it automounts and i can browse the files), but the 4 gb card wont work... Anyone have an idea of what could be the problem and how can i see al usb connected devices. Thanks
[04:11] <tyebud> izinucs: it's in private alpha right now, but I can get you an invite I think
[04:12] <brycan> hey
[04:12] <Jack_Sparrow> surfjdh Stop with the enter key..
[04:12] <Jack_Sparrow> surfjdh sudo mkdir /media/locked-drive then sudo mount -t ntfs-3g /dev/sda1 /media/locked-drive -o force  substitute your locked drive for sda1
[04:12] <surfjdh> it was a copypasta
[04:12] <Jack_Sparrow> !paste > surfjdh
[04:12] <izinucs> tyebud, sure.. kinda like grandcentral
[04:13] <slayerboyWRK> surfjdh: type sudo mkdir /meida/sdcard then type sudo mount /dev/sdf1 /media/sdcard
[04:13] <brycan> hey anyone know why i can't connect wirelessly to my router
[04:14] <surfjdh> d@jd-desktop ~ $ sudo mkdir /media/sdcard
[04:14] <surfjdh> jd@jd-desktop ~ $ sudo mount /dev/sdf1 /media/sdcard
[04:14] <surfjdh> mount: block device /dev/sdf1 is write-protected, mounting read-only
[04:14] <surfjdh> AARRGGHH
[04:14] <bazhang> surfjdh, dont paste here.
[04:14] <surfjdh> PASTE WHERE?
[04:14] <bazhang> surfjdh, use paste.ubuntu.com
[04:14] <schnauzer> qcjn: That's good news, but I'm afraid I'm out of ideas.
[04:14] <tyebud> izinucs: pm me your email, and I'll invite you
[04:14] <onetinsoldier> hi. i'm trying to install ubuntu 8.10. the cdrom bootas but i get I/O read read errors after what appears to be the end of loading up the installer. as if the kernel is having problems with my sata dvd drive. np with a debian lenny installer in this area. anyone think they can help?
[04:16] <izinucs> tyebud, done.. funny the site has a "join" button but it doesn't go anywhere but back to the main page.
[04:16] <nickrud_> onetinsoldier, first, obvious questions: did you check the burn? there's an option on the cd boot menu
[04:17] <Jack_Sparrow> !paste > surfjdh
[04:17] <tyebud> izinucs: yeah, they aren't handing invites out right now
[04:17] <izinucs> tyebud, got it.. thanks..
[04:18] <YellowGTOL> Hello all
[04:18] <leofwine> hello
[04:18] <tyebud> izinucs: no prob.  thanks for the time
[04:18] <YellowGTOL> Linux is killin me today :-(
[04:18] <onetinsoldier> nickrud: yes. it goes through that and then the same thing. i''m presented with pages full of message about end_request: I/O error, dev sr0, sector 1431680. if there is an actual disaply about the integrity if the cdrom, i couldn't see it
[04:19] <McCallister> I have a problem with sound. In the Volume Control options my device is #0: Audigy 1 (Unknown).
[04:20] <qcjn> schnauzer: when i look at P.P.S whit Open Office it is super slow ? is it my material , or it does that to everybody ?
[04:20] <onetinsoldier> nickrud: just a while ago another fellow was in here with the same problem. so i know i'm not alone. just an fyi.
[04:20] <YellowGTOL> So I have tried everything to install this damn flash player on Ubuntu 8.10 64bit
[04:20] <nickrud_> onetinsoldier, yeah, the burn has to be good enough to get the burn check to run ;) . I'd check the md5sum of the downloaded iso, then burn again, at lowest speed possible. And I've heard some have problems if they've burned the iso to a dvd. Sorta 'out there' info, no links or first hand exp.
[04:20] <YellowGTOL> And I can not get this workin for the life of me
[04:20] <izinucs> tyebud, it was fun..
[04:20] <Jack_Sparrow> YellowGTOL That is one of the reasons we try to guide newer users away from 64 bit
[04:20] <YellowGTOL> :-(
[04:20] <YellowGTOL> It was supposed to be a duel boot system
[04:21] <YellowGTOL> But the partitioner had an error
[04:21] <Jack_Sparrow> !enter > YellowGTOL
[04:21] <YellowGTOL> And killed everything on the PC lol
[04:21] <onetinsoldier> nickrud: ok, roger. i used 12x speed. i'll try a lower speed and the run md5sum of the iso if i can find it.
[04:21] <n8tuser2> YellowGTOL--> you can dual boot with 32bit ubuntu perhaps?
[04:21] <Jack_Sparrow> YellowGTOL sounds like you didnt defrag your windows partition before resizing
[04:21] <YellowGTOL> Its to late now. It already killed my older partitions
[04:21] <nickrud_> onetinsoldier, md5sum /path/to/ubuntu-*.iso  ;)
[04:22] <CyBurnett> is it safe to remove/uninstall trackerd from Ubuntu 8.04
[04:22] <onetinsoldier> nickrud: btw, i'm using a cdrom. thanks for your replies and help
[04:22] <nickrud_> CyBurnett, yes
[04:22] <YellowGTOL> So what your saying is I should put 32bit Ubuntu on here?
[04:22] <n8tuser2> yes
[04:22] <CyBurnett> So if i sudo apt-get remove trackerd is ok?
[04:23] <nickrud_> CyBurnett, yes. You'll also probably lose ubuntu-desktop, but that's only a meta package (list of packages to install upon first installation). You'll want it back when you upgrade to 9.*
[04:23] <eseven73> CyBurnett: that or you could just disable the trackerd service
[04:24] <sigp239> Any idea why it is that when I plug in my digital camera I get two boxes that pop up?
[04:24] <mcquaid> i'm following a guide for vncserver on startup and it says to run rc.update.d
[04:24] <mcquaid> which hardy doesn't have
[04:24] <onetinsoldier> nickrud: ok, ran the md5sum. so now i need to find out if that value is correct.
[04:24] <mcquaid> what's the equiv?
[04:24] <sigp239> Any idea why, when I right-click on the camera volume on the desktop, I see 2 entries for gthumb?
[04:24] <nickrud_> sigp239, probably two partitions on that camera's storage
[04:24] <n8tuser2> mcquaid--> update-rc.d
[04:24] <sigp239> nickrud_:  How do I check that?
[04:25] <mcquaid> thx
[04:25] <nickrud_> sigp239, sudo fdisk -l will list all partitions on all media
[04:25]  * mcquaid smacks puts palm to forehead picard style
[04:25] <nickrud_> sigp239, attached media of course
[04:25] <CyBurnett> Well, I went into the add/remove program and selected tracer then it said that it would also remove some other stuff, I rebooted and all is ok, Thanks! :-)
[04:25] <sigp239> nickrud_:  here is the camera /dev/sdc1   *           1<PHONE_NUMBER>+   6  FAT16
[04:26] <nickrud_> onetinsoldier, releases.ubuntu.com/8.10 has a file with the md5sums
[04:26] <tim__> hey i am having trouble with my sound. any one can help?
[04:26] <nickrud_> sigp239, then I'm not sure why you're getting two windows. Do they both show the same content?
[04:26] <sigp239> nickrud_: Yes it is attached
[04:26] <sigp239> nickrud_:  Yes they both show the same content.
[04:27] <steerpike> how do you stop the hard drive noises?
[04:27] <nickrud_> sigp239, what camera?
[04:27] <n8tuser2> steerpike--> replace the harddrive
[04:27] <nickrud_> steerpike, get a solid state drive. hard drives make noise
[04:27] <steerpike> this only happens in ubuntu
[04:27] <McCallister> Description of my problem: http://paste.ubuntu.com/83316/
[04:27] <sigp239> nickrud_:  dmesg identifies this  OLYMPUS  u1030SW,S1030SW
[04:27] <steerpike> i hear a high-pitch noise
[04:27] <PERTAIY> HALO.
[04:27] <sigp239> nickrud_: an olympus stylus 1030sw
[04:27] <Anacranom> what do i need to do in ubuntu 8.04 to share an external usb drive and make it accessible for both ubuntu and windows xp boxes? and then, after the links i've already followed dont work...?
[04:28] <McCallister> steerpike, your dive is dying?
[04:28] <n8tuser2> steerpike--> high pitch tone is not a good sign
[04:28] <tim__> hey i am having trouble with my sound. any one can help?
[04:28] <steerpike> McCallister: no it isn't, it only happens in UBUNTU
[04:29] <etzerd> hello all
[04:29] <etzerd> ?
[04:29] <steerpike> it's happened on other PC
[04:29] <Flannel> Howdy etzerd, how can we help you?
[04:29] <uman> anyone know a good app to reencode .mov videos to avi divx or something that is smaller so uploading HD videos to youtube wont literally take hours? thanks
[04:29] <etzerd> can anyone tell how to install the drivers to play DVD using Ubuntu 8.10
[04:29] <nickrud_> sigp239, I'm finding nothing with googling   ubuntu 1030sw ; I'd file a bug on bugs.ubuntu.com
[04:29] <powertoo108> uman: mencoder? don't know much about it
[04:30] <Flannel> !dvd | etzerd
[04:30] <n8tuser2> uman google for it?
[04:30] <uman> powertoo108, ill look it up
[04:30] <etzerd> Flamel: I went to ubuntuguide.org they no longer have step to install DVD
[04:30] <rob227> how do i disable my onboard sound?
[04:30] <rob227> card 1 (c0)
[04:30] <powertoo108> rob227: in your bios
[04:30] <rob227> sound card? really?
[04:30] <Anacranom> etzerd, spell the nick
[04:30] <rob227> i suppose that makes perfect sense
[04:30] <powertoo108> rob227: yes
[04:31] <rob227> thanks restart i will
[04:31] <sigp239> nickrud_: Maybe it is because my camera has a built-in memory and I added a 2GB memory card?
[04:31] <steerpike> no one knows why UBUNTU causes my harddisk to make noises?!
[04:31] <etzerd> Anacranon: what you mean by spell the nick?
[04:32] <tim__> i am having trouble with oss and am getting no sound at all. I have tried some old tricks, but nothing has helped. can anyone help me?
[04:32] <nickrud_> sigp239 two partitions, could be. But that's still a bug, if nautilus opens two windows but both have the same content
[04:32] <roger_> it access disk faster than microcrap
[04:32] <Jack_Sparrow> steerpike if it is a new install it might be tracker, reading the drive
[04:32] <sigp239> nickrud_:  When I remove the 2GB card, it still just shows /dev/sdc1
[04:33] <steerpike> i've had it running for a week now
[04:33] <steerpike> on my laptop
[04:33] <akahige1> when I upgraded to Intrepid, there was a Gnome message about a new combination icon for logout / restart / IM status. apparently I clicked the wrong thing because I don't have that.  is there a way to get it back?
[04:33] <nickrud_> sigp239, does it still open two windows?
[04:33] <McCallister> My sound problem: http://paste.ubuntu.com/83316/
[04:33] <sigp239> nickrud_: No
[04:34] <steerpike> you're all useless
[04:35] <sigp239> nickrud_:  I think it may be creating 2 /media/ mount points?
[04:35] <onetinsoldier> nickrud: the md5sum of the .iso checks out, it's exactly what it should be. i guess my only option is try a slower burn and then try again. thanks again for the help
[04:35] <tim__> McCallister: same problem
[04:35] <roger_> steerpike wtf is up
[04:35] <nickrud_> sigp239, then somehow, somewhere something is not right. I'm not the programmer for it, so I'm in no position to troubleshoot it. If you file a bug, explain what you see and offer to provide any requested information ...
[04:35] <nickrud_> sigp239, if it was creating 2 /media mount points, you'd see two on the desktop
[04:35] <Jack_Sparrow> roger_ Please dont swear even in shorthand
[04:35] <tim__> McCallister: what engine are you running? oss, ALSA or pulse?
[04:35] <roger_> oh shut up you
[04:36] <bazhang> roger_, please stop.
[04:36] <nickrud_> onetinsoldier, that's THE most common cause of those types of errors I've seen
[04:36] <roger_> you quiet to
[04:36] <Flannel> roger_: We have simple channel rules and only ask that you respect them
[04:36] <robs227> restarted, no more onboard sound!
[04:36] <nickrud_> roger_, not to pile on, but think disney g rated
[04:36] <tim__> congats robs227
[04:36] <robs227> my soundcard is now c0
[04:37] <robs227> still doesn't solve the problem though *sigh*
[04:37] <nickrud_> roger_, not to pile on, but think disney g rated
[04:37] <roger_> oh boy
[04:37] <MiladKhajavi> how can I create a ubuntu repository with pool structure?
[04:37] <tim__> what is the problem robs227
[04:37] <tim__> ?
[04:37] <Yamikuronue> Success! I managed to get the GUI working thanks to slayerboy
[04:37] <Flannel> MiladKhajavi: You looking for a full on mirror? or what?
[04:37] <roger_> chill and find someone else to blabber at cuz i really don't cre
[04:37] <roger_> *care
[04:37] <McCallister> tim__, ALSA
[04:37] <robs227> no sound out of left speaker. I think the subwoofer is being mistaken for the left speaker.
[04:38] <Yamikuronue> I gotta jet, tho, so, thanks for the help, see you later
[04:38] <powertoo108> robs227: have you looked around in alsamixer?
[04:38] <gribouille> I can't get any sound from my sound card (Intel Corporation 631xESB/632xESB High Definition Audio Controller) any idea ?
[04:38] <robs227> god yes looked around like crazy
[04:38] <MiladKhajavi> Flannel: I want create a mirror
[04:38] <McCallister> powertoo108, I have. I've done a lot
[04:38] <Jack_Sparrow> !mirror
[04:38] <luddite> my ACER Aspire 4315 / ubuntu 8.10 screeen keeps randomly flashing to black and back to  normal. very annoying- any ideas?
[04:39] <nickrud_> !hdaintel > gribouille
[04:39] <robs227> been all over alsamixer
[04:39] <nickrud_> gribouille, I haven't actually gone over that page recently, ymmv
[04:39] <robs227> pulseaudio believes that my left speaker is working great
[04:39] <gribouille> nickrud_, ok, thanks
[04:40] <Anacranom> what do i need to do in ubuntu 8.04 to share an external usb drive and make it accessible for both ubuntu and windows xp boxes?
[04:40] <robs227> my sound card is an ENCORE but the system thinks its an ICEnsembler
[04:40] <tim__> robs227 do you know if you have a mixer?
[04:40] <tim__> robs227 oooo rough
[04:40] <robs227> alsamixer, yeah
[04:40] <tim__> robs227 i don't think i can help you sorry
[04:40] <Flannel> MiladKhajavi: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/mirror can get you started
[04:41] <robs227> no one can Wahahhaah
[04:41] <nickrud_> gribouille, looking at it, it's much better than before ;)
[04:41] <tim__> robs227 have you tried fiddling with the controls?
[04:41] <sigp239> How do I set eog to be the default image viewer instead of gimp?
[04:41] <robs227> alsamixer controls? That's all I do all day!
[04:41] <tim__> robs227 ha i feel ya....
[04:41] <nickrud_> sigp239, right click an image of the type you want to change, select properties and Open with in the dialog box
[04:42] <powertoo108> robs227: I found a post with no sound on left speaker, they said if they adjust the PCM level it works until reboot, could be a temp fix
[04:42] <nickrud_> sigp239, image viewer is eog
[04:42] <gribouille> nickrud_, I get some sound, but it is extremely low
[04:42] <tim__> robs227 yeah, sorry i probably wont be able to help. try the #alsa channel
[04:42] <powertoo108> robs227: they also said it was fixed in 8.10 amd64 with the 2.6.27-7-generic kernel
[04:42] <robs227> like i said pulseaudio volume meter registers the left speaker works fine! Because it thinks the sub IS the left speakers. Thanks TIm!
[04:42] <sigp239> nickrud_: Do I have to do that manually for every type of picture file (jpg, png, etc) ?
[04:42] <Jack_Sparrow> robs227 HAve you asked in /j #alsa
[04:43] <robs227> no i haven't Mr. Sparrows thanks!
[04:43] <Jack_Sparrow> robs227 read the topic and run that script
[04:43] <Soros> i just plugged in a usb external drive (ntfs formatted).. but it was umounted incorrectly in windows, how do I find out which /dev/ device it is so I can -force it ?
[04:44] <Jack_Sparrow> Soros sudo fdisk -l
[04:44] <nickrud_> sigp239, yep, as of my last search for info on that
[04:44] <Jack_Sparrow> Soros Last letter is L
[04:44] <MiladKhajavi> just listen to me. I have a problem to download package with linux OS, I can just download them from windows. then I want to create a repository with pool structure. and then I want to devide theme to DVD
[04:44] <gribouille> nickrud_, the link you gave me isn't very clear
[04:44] <nickrud_> gribouille, I'm not very good with sound, alsa is a black hole for me ;(
[04:44] <sigp239> nickrud_:  Should be a way to set to open "Pictures" with a default application of your choice
[04:44] <Jack_Sparrow> !aptoncd
[04:44] <gribouille> nickrud_, me too
[04:45] <cjh_> 한국인은 없나?
[04:45] <bazhang> !ko | cjh_
[04:45] <nickrud_> ah, I was guessing that.
[04:45] <cjh_> thanks you bazhang and ubottu
[04:45] <bazhang> cjh_, you are welcome
[04:46] <bazhang> oops
[04:46] <nickrud_> need that translated to korean
[04:46] <onetinsoldier> nickrud: ya
[04:46] <onetinsoldier> nickrud: burning at 1x speed. :)
[04:47] <Marfi> quick question. how well does 8.10 partitioner work with resizing a vista drive?
[04:47] <tonybaloney867> very random question: I'm on the x86 version of 8.10. What are all the lib64 packages for?
[04:47] <nickrud_> onetinsoldier, hahaha, well I'll be long gone by the time it's done ;)
[04:47] <tonybaloney867> Just curious :)
[04:47] <onetinsoldier> nickrud: yeah, gonna take several more minutes yet at this speed!
[04:47] <Marfi> tonybaloney867, compatability maybe?
[04:48] <akahige1> can anybody tell me how to get gnome's fast user switching applet back? (I don't seem to have it any more)
[04:48] <Marfi> tonybaloney867, what processor are you using?
[04:48] <exmachina> so my friend just did an update
[04:48] <exmachina> now when he reboots
[04:49] <exmachina> he gets a blank screen
[04:49] <exmachina> he used to get an Acer bootup logo
[04:49] <nickrud_> akahige1, right click menu bar, select add to panel, and add the user switcher
[04:49] <exmachina> now he can't even go into the BIOS
[04:49] <SarahAu> the acer bootup thing is part of the monitor isnt it?
[04:49] <tonybaloney867> Mardeni: x86, not amd64
[04:49] <tonybaloney867> which is why I was asking
[04:49] <nickrud_> exmachina, don't see how an update can alter bios
[04:50] <SarahAu> maybe he should test the monitor on another computer, it might have broken or something
[04:50] <exmachina> SarahAu what?
[04:50] <exmachina> he's on a laptop
[04:50] <akahige1> nickrud_: thanks!
[04:50] <SarahAu> exmachina, oh ok sorry nevermind
[04:50] <tim__> nickrud_: try oss
[04:50] <Marfi> tonybaloney867, try to do a sudo apt-get autoremove from the terminal
[04:50] <nickrud_> tim__ ?
[04:51] <tonybaloney867> well they're not installed on my system. I was just wondering what they were used for. Mostly being curious :)
[04:52] <exmachina> anyone?
[04:52] <Marfi> tonybaloney867, ah, ok. if your looking in synaptic, you can highlight it and see a description of it
[04:52] <n8tuser2> exmachina--> if your friend cannot get into the bios, is he pressing the correct key combo?
[04:52] <tonybaloney867> okay thanks :)
[04:52] <exmachina> he usually has a logo that displays like Acer blahj blah becuase he's using an acer laptop
[04:53] <exmachina> it's a bootup screen that says like Press F12 to go into BIOS
[04:53] <n8tuser2> !who | exmachina
[04:53] <bryanbuchanan> I'm trying to get my wireless card to work--I believe it's a realtek rtl8158. I got the linux drivers, uncompressed, and ran the commands in the readme, but run into errors, anyone know if I'm doing anything wrong or if this is a common problem?
[04:53] <exmachina> n8tuser, that was directed to you
[04:54] <n8tuser2> exmachina--> did he press F12 or perhap del at boot time?
[04:54] <exmachina> yes
[04:54] <exmachina> he doesn't even hear the typical bootup sound
[04:55] <Anacranom> !seen Anacranom
[04:55] <n8tuser2> exmachina--> you dont seem to like the protocol, prefix the nick or else am not responding to you anymore
[04:55] <lysf1994> ?
[04:55]  * n00b_PT is away (bounce)
[04:55] <Melik> anybody here good with webcam drivers?
[04:55] <lysf1994> ㄹ
[04:56] <powertoo108> bryanbuchanan: pastebin the errors and maybe somebody will know what to do from there
[04:56] <powertoo108> bryanbuchanan: !pastebin > bryanbuchanan
[04:56] <powertoo108> !pastebin > bryanbuchanan
[04:57] <exmachina> n8tuser2, he definitely said that it was an ubuntu update
[04:57] <noobnoob> anybody know how to keep this ubuntu irc channel up and log onto another irc server in xchat?
[04:57] <Marfi> exmachina, and it won't turn on at all?
[04:57] <n8tuser2> exmachina--> he has to get into the bios first, before even getting the hd to be booted
[04:58] <exmachina> Marfi, n8tuser2, it turns on, like hte fan works, and even the light for CAPSLOCK doens't work
[04:58] <exmachina> he cna't even boot the HD
[04:58] <SeaPhor> what do i need to do in ubuntu 8.04 to share an external usb drive and make it accessible for both ubuntu and windows xp boxes?
[04:58] <powertoo108> noobnoob: the channel logs are online if you are simply trying to save the content
[04:58] <exmachina> like the HD isn't whirring
[04:58] <exmachina> apparently
[04:58] <Melik> anybody here good with webcam drivers?
[04:58] <noobnoob> powertoool08 im trying to log onto another server
[04:58] <noobnoob> while staying in this channel
[04:58] <exmachina> n8tuser2,  the HD isn't whirring and he can't boot up
[04:58] <Marfi> exmachina, tell him to unplug the power from the back, and push the power to drain the power from the mobo
[04:58] <joeb3_> SeaPhor, mount the drive and share it using samba.
[04:59] <noobnoob> without openeng another instance
[04:59] <noobnoob> of xchat
[04:59] <powertoo108> noobnoob: sorry, I don't know how to do that
[04:59] <exmachina> Marfi, how long do you hold it down?"
[04:59] <D-MAN> in open office spreadsheet how do i get my printer to print whole page
[04:59] <D-MAN> ??
[04:59] <eseven73> noobnoob: i think /newserver irc.whatever.org   should do the trick
[04:59] <noobnoob> powertool08 you are a tool :)
[05:00] <powertoo108> noobnoob: I know... where do you think I got my nick? :)
[05:00] <Marfi> exmachina, just like you would hit the power. if they are savvy enough, have them take the cmos battery out (round battery the size of the quarter on the mother board) and make sure there is nothing plugged into it
[05:00] <Marfi> exmachina, this basically resets the settings and whatnot, and may get it back up and running
[05:00] <noobnoob> irc.2600.net
[05:00] <exmachina> Marfi does he hit the power button repeatedly or does he hold it down?
[05:00] <Marfi> exmachina, just push it once
[05:00] <exmachina> pushing it once doesn't work
[05:01] <Marfi> exmachina, make sure the power cable from the back is unplugged
[05:01] <joeb3_> noobnoob, CtrlT to open a new server tab.  /server whatever
[05:01] <exmachina> it doesn't even turn off when he holds down the power button
[05:01] <exmachina> the power cable from the back is plugged
[05:01] <exmachina> Marfi, he's on a laptop
[05:01] <Marfi> exmachina, ohhhh, i thought it was a desktop
[05:02] <exmachina> I told him to unplug the battery
[05:02] <Marfi> exmachina, have him unplug the battery and the power cable, let it sit for about a half hour. then i would tell him to plug it back in and try again
[05:02] <alex_21> DAISY is the Digital Accessible Information System, used by visually impaired people for print material, converted to speech I am looking for a guide to using DAISY Pipeline, and installing it. Does anyone know what I can try Googleing, because I run into brick walls everywhere so far, getting only DAISY Pipeline GUI, which isn't what I want
[05:03] <noobnoob> does ubuntu make me a l33t hax0r?
[05:03] <Marfi> noobnoob, no, makes you a noobnoob
[05:03] <Marfi> =)
[05:03] <exmachina> Marfi does he have to still hit the power button?
[05:04] <noobnoob> marfi LOL
[05:04] <powertoo108> noobnoob: upgrades you to l33tnoob
[05:04] <Marfi> alex_21, you could try orca. thats the screen reader built in
[05:04] <noobnoob> powertool08 LOL...
[05:04] <Marfi> exmachina, na, just a quick push to drain any extra power thats in it
[05:04] <noobnoob> how can i become a l33t hax0r?
[05:05] <Marfi> noobnoob, not write in leet
[05:05] <Marfi> for starters
[05:05] <Melik> lol
[05:05] <noobnoob> LOL
[05:05] <exmachina> He'll give it half an hour to see what happens
[05:05] <powertoo108> noobnoob: learn to program, then go from there
[05:05] <alex_21> I know of Orca, but i am trying to convert an text file into an audiobook
[05:05] <avis> has anyone see a bug effect with ATI drivers in intrepid where while playing a video, if totem is moved, there remains a snapshot of the video screen where the window once was -- doesn't show the desktop.  any way to fix this ?
[05:05] <exmachina> And that's why I use gentoo =P ubuntu patches are way too unpredictable
[05:06] <Marfi> alex_21, orca should be able to read the text file, let me see if i can find anything for converting it to audio for you really fast
[05:06] <ZeZu> anyone know of any mirrors for ubuntu cd images?  specifically: xubuntu-8.10-alternate-powerpc+ps3.iso
[05:08] <alex_21> Not just any audio, rather the DAISY standards
[05:08] <Marfi> alex_21, i found this one page that has a way to convert it to audio   http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=876440
[05:09] <Marfi> alex_21, ill check for daisy standards though
[05:09] <Melik> anybody here good with webcam drivers?
[05:09] <luddite> Melik: maybe
[05:09] <Marfi> alex_21, do you know what format the DAISY needs?
[05:10] <gribouille> does linux have problems with realtek sound cards ?
[05:10] <bryanbuchanan> here's what I get trying to install that wireless card driver: http://paste.ubuntu.com/83331/
[05:10] <ZeZu> gribouille, sometimes they are a royal PITA to get working
[05:10] <bryanbuchanan> Dunno much about Linux at all, hard to tell if that's even the step it's tripping up on
[05:11] <Marfi> alex_21, and heres one you may want. it converts word documents to DAISY   http://www.openxmlcommunity.org/daisy/
[05:11] <luddite> i wish lyx could export and import .doc files
[05:12] <powertoo108> bryanbuchanan: not sure if it will help but try running the command with sudo ie: sudo ./makedrv
[05:13] <Errno5> every time i try to install.. im getting an error 'ERRNO 5' ?
[05:13] <Errno5> why
[05:14] <eseven73> is there a way to disable xubuntu's screensaver/power settings? Ive tried setting it to two hours but it never saves, it just keeps blacking out the screen every 5 mins, so annoying!
[05:14] <Marfi> eseven73, just use no screen saver
[05:14] <eseven73> i tried that too
[05:14] <eseven73> :/
[05:15] <bryanbuchanan> powertoo1: get the same thing w/sudo
[05:15] <Marfi> eseven73, or look for the option of when its idle not to dim
[05:17] <powertoo108> bryanbuchanan: I don't know what to tell you, it looks like the script/source needs editing or you are supposed to provide some other parameter(unlikely since its using its own makedriver script) see if realtek has a channel
[05:17] <alex_21> Marfi: I will check it out, but I think it does, ... oh, that one, ... it just outputs a DAISY XML File, not the whole audio track as well
[05:17] <joeb3_> eseven73, Check the power settings on the monitor.  Mine refers to it as OSD timeout.
[05:17] <alex_21> Thanks though
[05:17] <bernard__> hkgkgkgk
[05:18] <tyebud> I'm having in issue with the name of my joystick.
[05:18] <bryanbuchanan> powertoo1: would it be possible to download a windows driver and use that "WIndows Wireless Drivers" app?
[05:18] <eseven73> ok ty guys
[05:18] <n8tuser2> eseven73--> try disabling the acpid perhaps?
[05:18] <Singer2> hello
[05:18] <Marfi> alex_21 gotcha. sorry i couldn't help more. wish i was more up to date on the standards for ubuntu with that. the college i go to has a few deaf students who i help from time to time
[05:18] <powertoo108> bryanbuchanan: possibly
[05:18] <eseven73> yep did that but didnt reboot yet n8tuser2 , not sure if a reboot is even needed
[05:18] <Singer2> quick question, I just got a quad core Pheon with 8GB of RAM.. I'm planning used it for a desktop/development/testing box... should I go for the desktop or server image?
[05:19] <Singer2> consider the RAM?
[05:19] <Chrysalis> stupid question but how do i jump to next search result in vim, forgot lol
[05:19] <Marfi> alex_21, ****blind. school has a deaf population also   =)
[05:19] <joeb3_> Chrysalis,  /
[05:19] <n8tuser2> eseven73--> how did you disable acpid ?
[05:19] <dmsuperman> Singer2: If you're using it for a desktop/dev/testing box, as in like a normal computer, 8GB is entirely overkill :P
[05:20] <Chrysalis> joeb3_, jump no next '/' searches
[05:20] <dmsuperman> Singer2: But Personally, I went with the normal kernel, 32bit, and just enabled PAE
[05:20] <Singer2> dmsuperman: not really, if I loadup 2-3 instaces of MySQL for work with replciation.. it acutally uses a lot of the RAM
[05:20] <dmsuperman> Singer2: Here's a guide to enabling PAE: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=5347489
[05:20] <eseven73> oh that was in ubuntu n8tuser2
[05:20] <jtaji> Singer2: if you need a desktop then use the desktop image, no need for server kernel if that's what you're thinking
[05:20] <eseven73> n8tuser2: it was in some settings thing cant recall now which one it was
[05:20] <dmsuperman> Singer2: 1: Something is seriously wrong then, MySQL never uses that much memory by default
[05:21] <dmsuperman> Singer2: 2: Why run more than one instance?
[05:21] <eseven73> n8tuser2: i think it was under Administration>Services
[05:21] <n8tuser2> eseven73--> if you have used /etc/init.d/acpid stop  then no need to reboot
[05:21] <Singer2> jtaji: okay.. so the desktop image will support 8GB of RAM?
[05:21] <ardchoille> Is it possible to have aliases for textboxes? Like type in myemailaddy and have that expand to<EMAIL_ADDRESS>in any app?
[05:21] <eseven73> oh nice, ok ty n8tuser2 :)
[05:21] <jtaji> Singer2: 64bit will
[05:21] <dmsuperman> Singer2: No, it won't which is why you'd need PAE or 64 bit
[05:21] <dmsuperman> Singer2: That guide I sent you is to enable PAE
[05:21] <Singer2> dmsuperman: I'm working with NDB and also replication
[05:22] <dmsuperman> I personally don't want to deal with 64 bit, but to each his own
[05:22] <Singer2> cool, downloading now
[05:22] <Singer2> NDB = memory hog.. as all yoru indexes have to be in RAM
[05:22] <dmsuperman> ardchoille: I've personally been looking for a good solution to that. I guess "snippits" is alright, but I couldn't get it to work for me
[05:22] <Veinor> Is it possible to control fan speed on a HP Pavilion dv9235nr?
[05:22] <dmsuperman> ardchoille: You could give it a try
[05:22] <alex_21> And also, the thing you said requires Microsoft word. I am using The Open Office extention instead to do that task.  Thanks again, blind smiley
[05:22] <Singer2> testing replication = at least 2 instances
[05:23] <bdelin88> hey, i need to have a .bin/.cue file mounted ASAP, can anyone help?
[05:23] <omar> #linuxac
[05:23] <bdelin88> i have tried bchunk and it only makes a bunch of files in a folder, no good
[05:23] <dmsuperman> !cue | bdelin88
[05:23] <jtaji> !iso | bdelin88
[05:23] <slayerboyWRK> Veinor: http://letmegooglethatforyou.com/?q=Is+it+possible+to+control+fan+speed+on+a+HP+Pavilion+dv9235nr%3F
[05:23] <Errno5> im getting Errno 5.. while installing Ubuntu 8.10.. anyone any solution about it?
[05:23] <bdelin88> jtaji: it's not an iso
[05:24] <bdelin88> it is .bin/.cue
[05:24] <jtaji> bdelin88: hit the link for conversion instructions
[05:24] <alex_21> Veinor: Yes, download HPs Linux drivers for the fan you want to control. It is an RPM or something though. There is a guide on the Ubuntu Help/wiki pages
[05:24] <bdelin88> i love how brasero converts to that format yet, it is not a native to linux like .iso...
[05:24] <ardchoille> dmsuperman: I can't see snippits in the repos, do you know the name of the app?
[05:24] <Veinor> slayerboyWRK: :|
[05:25] <dmsuperman> ardchoille: It's called snippits but it's not in the repos, it's a ruby app
[05:25] <dmsuperman> ardchoille: Lemme find a link
[05:25] <dmsuperman> ardchoille: http://lifehacker.com/351285/automate-repetitive-typing-with-snippits
[05:25] <Errno5> im getting Errno 5.. while installing Ubuntu 8.10.. anyone any solution about it?
[05:26] <slayerboyWRK> Veinor: sorry wasn't nice I know :(
[05:26] <gribouille> I'm trying to compile the alsa driver, but the compile fails because of the unknown function hrtimer_forward_now
[05:26] <dmsuperman> !repeat | Errno5
[05:26] <ardchoille> dmsuperman: Thanks
[05:28] <dmsuperman> ardchoille: Sure thing
[05:28] <Errno5> ill try 7.10.. will wubi install Ubunt7.10?
[05:29] <hakr> no
[05:30] <dmsuperman> Errno5: Wubi was a new feature with 8.04
[05:30] <dmsuperman> Errno5: Try 8.04, it's the LTS as well
[05:30] <bdelin88> ok... this guide is not working fast enough, i need a .bin/.cue mounting solution like right now
[05:30] <Errno5> 8.10 is giving errno 5.. everytime i try to install it.
[05:30] <Errno5> is 8.04 okay?
[05:30] <D-MAN> how can i get the hplp drivers for my printer?
[05:30] <bdelin88> the freaking link is not even working
[05:31] <natsukao>  have you seen the new laptop totally free ? free hardware and free bios on which runs GNU/linux ? http://www.lemote.com/english/yeeloong9c.html
[05:31] <BlearyBram> hi again
[05:31] <dmsuperman> !patience | bdelin88
[05:32] <dmsuperman> Errno5: Try it
[05:32] <bdelin88> no this is crap
[05:32] <bdelin88> brasero comes with ubuntu
[05:32] <bdelin88> yet ubuntu has no native mounting software
[05:32] <dmsuperman> natsukao: Take discussion like that to #ubuntu-offtopic
[05:32] <bdelin88> brasero made .cue/.bin format
[05:32] <dmsuperman> bdelin88: A poor attitude won't get you any help
[05:32] <dmsuperman> bdelin88: Nobody is obligated to help you
[05:32] <bdelin88> dmsuperman, yea well i relaly need this asap i have a final tomorrow
[05:32] <jrgp> bdelin88, acting all greedy only turns us away from you
[05:32] <bdelin88> dmsuperman: i know that...
[05:33] <bdelin88> jrgp: greedy?
[05:33] <dmsuperman> bdelin88: I'm sorry, but treating volunteers like crap isn't the way to get us to help you
[05:33] <BlearyBram> hi again, do anyone have any problems with X server since upgraded to Intrepid from Hardy?
[05:33] <dmsuperman> BlearyBram: I couldn't even get it to run with my nvidia drivers
[05:33] <bdelin88> dmsuperman: yea i know man but u sent me to a guide, i mean... isn't there something in the repos?
[05:33] <alex_21> Ubi installs 7.04 and greater. It was official in 8.04
[05:33] <bdelin88> dmsuperman: i'm just in a tight spot and i need this thing to get mounted
[05:33] <BlearyBram> bdelin88: calm down first
[05:33] <jrgp> bdelin88, what do you need to get mounted?
[05:34] <dmsuperman> bdelin88: If you don't want to follow the instructions then there's not much we can do for you
[05:34] <dmsuperman> jrgp: He wants to mount a .bin/.cu
[05:34] <dmsuperman> .cue*
[05:34] <bdelin88> jrgp: ok... brasero made a .bin/.cue of a cd i want to get mounted
[05:34] <jrgp> ah
[05:34] <jrgp> there's a way of doing that
[05:34] <dmsuperman> Yeah
[05:34] <bdelin88> jrgp: i know windows has gui programs for this and i am trying to find a quick solution to mount this
[05:34] <dmsuperman> !iso
[05:34] <jrgp> from the command line
[05:34] <dmsuperman> Convert to .iso
[05:34] <dmsuperman> And then mount the iso
[05:34] <jrgp> indeed
[05:34] <bdelin88> dmsuperman: i am eager to learn :)
[05:34] <dmsuperman> mount -t iso9660 -o loop path/to/iso /media/mountpoint
[05:34] <dmsuperman> Something like that
[05:35] <bdelin88> where do i put the path to the .bin/.cue?
[05:36] <dmsuperman> bdelin88: Gotta convert to .iso
[05:36] <bdelin88> dmsuperman: yes, but in order to do that i need the path to the .bin/.cue and then make a path to .iso that i want, right?
[05:36] <ardchoille> dmsuperman: sbippits doesn't seem to be what I need.
[05:36] <ardchoille> dmsuperman: But, thanks for letting me know about it :)
[05:36] <dmsuperman> bdelin88: bdelin88 Something like that
[05:36] <dmsuperman> ardchoille: Are you sure?
[05:37] <eseven73> i dont see how snippets is any easier than emacs macros :/
[05:37] <jrgp> eseven73, use nano
[05:37] <eseven73> maybe im missing something
[05:37] <dmsuperman> ardchoille: Do you want to basically type ";me" and have it expand to<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[05:37] <eseven73> i do jrgp :)
[05:37] <bdelin88> ...
[05:37] <dmsuperman> eseven73: emacs macros are emacs only
[05:37] <ardchoille> dmsuperman: ye
[05:37] <dmsuperman> ardchoille: I'm fairly sure it does that
[05:37] <dmsuperman> ardchoille: With just a bit of finessing
[05:37] <eseven73> dmsuperman: do you have to have compiz?
[05:38] <dmsuperman> eseven73: Er, of course not
[05:38] <bdelin88> dmsuperman: mount -t iso9660 -o loop path/to/iso /media/mountpoint (i see the path to the iso output file i want, but where do i put the path to .bin/.cue file?)
[05:38] <jrgp> it's just extra special effects
[05:38] <jrgp> not necessary
[05:38] <eseven73> ah
[05:38] <jrgp> but they do look really cool
[05:38] <dmsuperman> bdelin88: You have to convert the .bin/.cue to a .iso like I said
[05:38] <ardchoille> dmsuperman: so this ruby script is a daemon and is present at all times without me having to start it each time?
[05:38] <jrgp> :3
[05:38] <dmsuperman> jrgp: It's a lot more than that but yeah not necessary
[05:38] <bdelin88> dmsuperman: i have gmount so mounting the iso is no problem, i am trying to find out how to convert it to an iso
[05:39] <dmsuperman> bdelin88: Right, so read this guide:
[05:39] <dmsuperman> !iso
[05:39] <bdelin88> dmsuperman: bchunk fails miserablyh
[05:39] <bdelin88> dmsuperman: i did, the link is broken to the solution i need
[05:39] <bdelin88> dmsuperman: bin2iso
[05:39] <dmsuperman> bdelin88: Have you tried googling for bin2iso
[05:40] <Singer2> OMG
[05:40] <Singer2> they stroke
[05:40] <bdelin88> dmsuperman: yes i am trying.. wow i never thought i would have this much trouble with this
[05:40] <dmsuperman> Singer2: Hrm?
[05:40] <Singer2> sorry
[05:40] <android60> how long can sata cables be before being problematic?
[05:40] <Singer2> wrong windows..
[05:40] <dmsuperman> bdelin88: I know it doesn't help now, but in the future a good standard format .iso is always the best thing to rip to
[05:40] <alex_21> Hi, small laptops ther, and I would wonder what the price is. They are ultimately the best for my small school lab project
[05:40] <jrgp> android60, forever?
[05:40] <dmsuperman> android60: The maximum length is 3 feet afaik
[05:41] <Singer2> android60: depending on quality.. but no more then .9m
[05:41] <android60> so a 3ft cable should be good to go?
[05:41] <Singer2> dmsuperman: the public transit in my major city is ons trike
[05:41] <Singer2> android60: why so long?
[05:41] <android60> i need to be able to run it from the back of the comp to external devices
[05:41] <bdelin88> dmsuperman: that is the problem though man...
[05:42] <android60> just for temporary quick things
[05:42] <bdelin88> dmsuperman: brasero comes with ubuntu and doesn't give you that option!
[05:42] <dmsuperman> android60: You want an eSATA cable/port
[05:42] <bdelin88> dmsuperman: it doesn't make any sense you know?
[05:42] <Singer2> have you thought of an esata port/cable?
[05:42] <dmsuperman> bdelin88: I've never had it not give me the option for iso
[05:42] <android60> ya i have the port but i just wanted to see length of the cable
[05:42] <android60> first
[05:42] <bdelin88> it only gave me 3 options for formats
[05:42] <dmsuperman> android60: But yeah I'm fairly certain 3ft is the max length for sata, lemme double check for you
[05:42] <android60> ok
[05:42] <calc> android60: eSATA cables are apparently good up to 2m
[05:43] <dmsuperman> android60: 1m maximum length
[05:43] <android60> ok thanks for the info guys i appreciate it
[05:43] <dmsuperman> calc: Really? Last I used them eSATA had the same max as internal
[05:43] <calc> android60: but yes regular SATA Is only 1m
[05:43] <android60> ya
[05:43] <calc> dmsuperman: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serial_ATA <- if that is accurate anyway
[05:44]  * BlearyBram noticed something different: when he ran the LiveCD, the display is fine.
[05:44] <bdelin88> my god i do not have time to do all this conversion, there must be an easier way
[05:44] <dmsuperman> Oh yeah it appears to be correct, 2m eSATA 1m SATA
[05:44] <dmsuperman> bdelin88: This time you waste not running it is time that could be saved if you just started the process
[05:45] <dmsuperman> bdelin88: It doesn't take that logn to convert a .bin to a .iso
[05:45] <dmsuperman> bdelin88: What happens with bchunk?
[05:45] <bdelin88> dmsuperman: i have no idea which one to download and the website lacks a quick explanation: http://cdemu.sourceforge.net/#download
[05:46] <bdelin88> dmsuperman: well bchunk worked fine until it decided to split the entire .iso into 15 different parts
[05:46] <DigitalFiz> weird
[05:46] <bdelin88> dmsuperman: i am not sure if i need CDEmenu client or gCDEmu
[05:46] <DigitalFiz> my ipod touch keeps connecting and siconnecting really quickly
[05:47] <dmsuperman> bdelin88: What arguments did you pass to bchunk?
[05:47] <dmsuperman> DigitalFiz: Disconnect it, power down, power up, reconnect it?
[05:47] <DigitalFiz> ahhhh!
[05:47] <bdelin88> dmsuperman: one sec
[05:47] <DigitalFiz> i just got like 500 diologs about fspot and opening the ipod drive
[05:47] <alex_21> Hey, can someone PM me about the fact that I have three new hard drives comming in and have no more sata prts on my Motherboard. What can I do?
[05:48] <DigitalFiz> its an ipod touch it doesnt have disk use mode
[05:48] <bdelin88> dmsuperman: i tried - "bchunk brasero.bin brasero.cue music3.iso" and "bchunk brasero.bin brasero.cue music3"
[05:48] <dmsuperman> alex_21: You can get a PCI daughter board with SATA ports on them
[05:48] <dmsuperman> bdelin88: And what do you get when it completes?
[05:49] <Errno5> [Errno 5] Input/output error :(
[05:49] <alex_21> Daughter board with SATA ports, how much does that cost?
[05:50] <bdelin88> dmsuperman: a bunch of files named "music3.iso02.cdr" "music3.iso03.cdr" etc...., 36 items
[05:50] <bdelin88> dmsuperman: over 50 now
[05:50] <dmsuperman> bdelin88: And it was completed? Or still running?
[05:50] <bdelin88> dmsuperman: still running now,i waited last time though
[05:50] <high-freq> anyone got a garmin m-nav 650 workin with gpsd yet?
[05:50] <dmsuperman> alex_21: Take a look on newegg.com if you live in the US, I wouldn't imagine too much money
[05:50] <bdelin88> dmsuperman: it's done, 69 items named like above
[05:51] <bdelin88> bchunk is epic fail right now
[05:51] <Errno5> i dont find any solution to [Errno 5] Input/output error while installing on forums even?
[05:51] <Errno5> anyone here or i should give-up trying install again n again
[05:52] <dmsuperman> bdelin88: It appears that it thinks it's an audio CD
[05:52] <dmsuperman> bdelin88: It creates .cdr files when it's an audio CD
[05:52] <bdelin88> dmsuperman: it is an audio cd, but it is supposed to just convert it to .iso
[05:52] <bdelin88> dmsuperman: all i want is .iso, how do i tell it to do that?
[05:52] <alex_21> Ok, thanks.
[05:52] <alex_21> Good night.
[05:53] <alex_21> Good night. Bani Bash
[05:53] <dmsuperman> bdelin88: Do you want to play them back?
[05:53] <dmsuperman> bdelin88: Or does it _have_ to be in .iso
[05:54] <dmsuperman> bdelin88: If you just want to play them back, "sox file.cdr new.wav" converts them to normal audio files
[05:54] <kapildev> want to run sudo without prompting for password.
[05:54] <bdelin88> dmsuperman: it has to be an .iso
[05:54] <kapildev> dave    ALL=(ALL) NOPASSWD: ALL
[05:54] <kapildev> does not work.
[05:54] <dmsuperman> bdelin88: You could use mkisofs to put them back into an iso
[05:55] <dmsuperman> But I'm not sure the arguments for audio cds
[05:55] <bdelin88> dmsuperman: can i just run an apt-get install for that?
[05:55] <dmsuperman> For what? mkisofs?
[05:55] <dmsuperman> Should be installed already I think
[05:55] <Wicked> is there anyway to just have one bar in gnome?
[05:55] <LogicalDash> Power Management has a checkbox to dim my backlight whenever I unplug the power; I want it to set the backlight to the *lowest available setting* when I unplug, and keep it that way. How do I do this?
[05:55] <doorknob60> Wicked: delete the other one
[05:55] <bdelin88> dmsuperman: yup it is
[05:56] <LogicalDash> Wicked: you can right-click the panel you want to remove and select Delete This Panel
[05:56] <Wicked> doorknob60, well yea..but then my open apps are off in la la land.
[05:56] <doorknob60> Wicked: then right click the one you wanna keep and add the missing stuff to it, its pretty easy
[05:56] <Wicked> i want one panel to have the menu stuff and the open apps and all that
[05:56] <z987k> got a problem, hopefully someone can help:  installed proftpd and gproftpd from synaptic and I get " fatal: Socket operation on non-socket" when trying to execute proftpd
[05:56] <Wicked> oh
[05:56] <Wicked> ok
[05:56] <bdelin88> dmsuperman: man... this is way too complicated
[05:56] <doorknob60> Wicked: add task list (i think its called) on the leftover panel
[05:56] <dmsuperman> bdelin88: That's why I just like .iso :P
[05:57] <bdelin88> dmsuperman: yea that's what i wanted it in originally
[05:57] <mespejel> i have a big
[05:57] <mespejel> very big ploblem
[05:58] <mespejel> :(
[05:58] <bdelin88> dmsuperman: i just want this thing back to .iso and just like the original cd
[05:58] <Wicked> doorknob60, im not really seeing anything like that
[05:58] <indian> ?
[05:58] <Wicked> under the add to panel window
[05:58] <indian> hold on
[05:58] <bdelin88> dmsuperman: does mkisofs know how to put it back exactly? the tracks MUST be in the original order
[05:58] <dmsuperman> bdelin88: You could use cdrecord to burn them back to a CD
[05:58] <bdelin88> dmsuperman: don't have any blanks on me man or i would
[05:59] <bdelin88> dmsuperman: wonder if brasero can convert it
[05:59] <doorknob60> WIcked: well i havent used gnome in like 6 months, but right click the panel, click Add To Panel, and it should be in there. something like task lisk, windows list, or task manager probably its called
[05:59] <dmsuperman> bdelin88: Try running bchunk without the .cue
[05:59] <dmsuperman> bdelin88: bchunk file.bin out.iso
[05:59] <Wicked> window list. thanks!
[05:59] <doorknob60> np
[05:59] <LogicalDash> bdelin88: You want to convert some image file to .iso? try the program, "iat"
[06:00] <bdelin88> dmsuperman: i will try
[06:00] <lxnb> hello, I have intel core2 duel, and 2048RAM, should I install x86_64 or just i386?
[06:00] <LogicalDash> lxnb: i386 probably
[06:00] <bdelin88> LogicalDash: will look into it, it's an emergency, lol, thanks :)
[06:00] <LogicalDash> bdelin88: np
[06:00] <l7> any ubuntu mactel users here?
[06:00] <rdw200169> l7: you mean ubuntu on a mac?
[06:01] <l7> rdw200169: yeah
[06:01] <rdw200169> l7: when i did it, i use rEFIt, and boot camp
[06:01] <bdelin88> dmsuperman: Example: bchunk foo.bin foo.cue foo
[06:01] <bdelin88>   -v  Verbose mode
[06:01] <bdelin88>   -r  Raw mode for MODE2/2352: write all 2352 bytes from offset 0 (VCD/MPEG)
[06:01] <bdelin88>   -p  PSX mode for MODE2/2352: write 2336 bytes from offset 24
[06:01] <bdelin88>       (default MODE2/2352 mode writes 2048 bytes from offset 24)
[06:01] <FloodBot1> bdelin88: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:01] <bdelin88>   -w  Output audio files in WAV format
[06:01] <l7> i've been wondering what works and what doesn't on the new macbooks
[06:01] <LogicalDash> lxnb: 64-bit computers usually have some kind of label on them saying they're 64-bit
[06:01] <lxnb> I have intel core2 duo, and 2048RAM, should I install x86_64 or just i386?
[06:01] <l7> rdw200169: why refit as a bootloader instead of lilo or grub?
[06:02] <lxnb> I have intel core2 duo, and 2048RAM, should I install x86_64 or just i386?
[06:02] <calc> i LogicalDash all new cpus pretty much (besides atom) are 64bit
[06:02] <LogicalDash> !repeat | lxnb
[06:02] <l7> oh, refit = efi i guess?
[06:02] <rdw200169> l7: i don't know about the new ones, they have NVIDIA, so they should work well... NVIDIA drivers are on point
[06:02] <dmsuperman> !64bit | lxnb
[06:02] <jtaji> lxnb: no reason really for 64bit, I'd stick with i386
[06:02] <dmsuperman> lxnb: It's up to you
[06:02] <calc> lxnb: 64bit would be faster has more registers, etc
[06:02] <bdelin88> dmsuperman: there's the output, maybe i can tell it to keep it as .iso??? http://paste.ubuntu.com/83349/
[06:02] <rdw200169> l7: you use both, but you have to trick the EFI (mac BIOS replacement) into loading the linux boot camp part, but still allow you to load mac
[06:02] <l7> rdw200169: do the macs with ATI cards not work so well?
[06:02] <lxnb> thanks guys!
[06:02] <dmsuperman> lxnb: Personally I would never go with 64bit, it's usually full of issues
[06:02] <mespejel> Here is my problem: I am using ubuntu with vmware in a macbook. The thing is that there is no video card support for linux using vmware.. my mistake was to open a supertux game.. it freeze. since my main OS is leopard.. i cannot just shutdown the computer with force.. i actually need to shut down it normally. and i cant do it.. cause it is freeze.. everytime i try to log in that happens.
[06:03] <mespejel> it just satay like that
[06:03] <rdw200169> l7: it's the ati drivers, they're worse than NVIDIA, but they still work
[06:03] <calc> dmsuperman: what issues are those, i'm running it here fine
[06:03] <calc> of course i also did the initial porting in debian 5 years ago
[06:03] <dmsuperman> calc: Compatibility problems, not everything works easy like it does 32bit
[06:03] <LogicalDash> mespejel: type alt+f2 and then xkill
[06:03] <LogicalDash> mespejel: then click on the vmware window
[06:04] <dmsuperman> calc: Flash has only recently gotten better 64bit support
[06:04] <calc> dmsuperman: you still haven't actually said what though
[06:04] <LogicalDash> mespejel: it should quietly close
[06:04] <calc> dmsuperman: flash worked fine with 32bit on 64bit as well
[06:04] <calc> dmsuperman: well as well as flash ever works
[06:04] <crawlthewarriork> can anyone explain how come when I use apt-get or add/remove software it downloads really slow but when I use firefox my dl speeds are pretty fast? Is there a config I need to fix?
[06:04] <dmsuperman> :P
[06:04] <calc> dmsuperman: its constantly crashing on my wife's windows (32bit) machine as well
[06:04] <bdelin88> dmsuperman: any ideas on that output?
[06:04] <dmsuperman> Virtual Machines too
[06:04] <dmsuperman> bdelin88: Yeah I'm not sure
[06:04] <zedu> i dont get audio in flash videos since i upgraded to 8.10
[06:04] <l7> rdw200169: ah well that's good to know.  i suppose the intel drivers are probably the best aren't they?  in terms of being open source rather than nvidia's binary blobs?
[06:04] <calc> dmsuperman: vmware works fine on amd64 and has for a long time
[06:04] <dmsuperman> bdelin88: If you can get the CD back I'd just rip it to .iso, if not I have no idea
[06:05] <LogicalDash> mespejel: unless you mean that the virtual machine is running inside of OSX? in that case you'd have to use OSX's way of killing hung processes
[06:05] <bdelin88> dmsuperman: it says i need the .cue, but can i tell it to just make it an .iso, according to that output?
[06:05] <mespejel> LogicalDash: i will try that
[06:05] <dmsuperman> bdelin88: Worst case scenario you could try getting poweriso for linux and mount / convert it like that
[06:05] <rdw200169> l7: there are also open source nvidia drivers, i just prefer the binaries b/c they have more features
[06:05] <mespejel> yes of cousre is a virutal machine inside OSX
[06:05] <mespejel> its vmware
[06:05] <bdelin88> dmsuperman: do they have a linux version?
[06:05] <dmsuperman> bdelin88: A command line one, yes
[06:06] <LogicalDash> mespejel: try googling for [osx force quit]
[06:06] <alexserver> hi, I need personal assistance to compile a module within a kernel, I dont know how to do that
[06:06] <dmsuperman> calc: I dislike vmware, so vbox for me, and that's had issues
[06:06] <bdelin88> dmsuperman: grr...command lind
[06:06] <l7> mespejel: actually there's a choice of several VM appliances for OSX: vmware, parallels and virtualbox... and also qemu
[06:06] <rdw200169> l7: i followed some excellent tutorials on installing ubuntu on a mac, they won't steer you wrong
[06:06] <bdelin88> dmsuperman: command line*
[06:06] <dmsuperman> bdelin88: You mean "yay command line"
[06:06] <l7> mespejel: and some smaller ones too
[06:07] <bdelin88> dmsuperman: lol, yea...... no, not right now actually
[06:07] <calc> dmsuperman: ah, i've tried various other vm's and had issues with them even on 32bit so just stuck with vmware
[06:07] <LogicalDash> l7: I thought that qemu == virtualbox?
[06:07] <l7> rdw200169: yeah i'm a bit on the fence about whether to try ubuntu on a newer macbook
[06:07] <alexserver> may anyone help me to compile a module within a kernel
[06:07] <bdelin88> dmsuperman: i plan on learning that over break, but now is not the time
[06:07] <dmsuperman> bdelin88: That should be able to do it, checking the quick help it appears it can directly convert it to a .iso
[06:07] <dmsuperman> calc: Funnily it's the same for me but vbox
[06:07] <calc> l7: buy a thinkpad X200 instead :)
[06:07] <l7> rdw200169: how was your experience with ubuntu as far as dual booting osx and ubuntu vs running ubuntu in a VM?
[06:07] <dmsuperman> calc: vmware can never do shared folders or audio correctly, at the very least
[06:08] <Daemonik> Is there a way to get machines booted from a ubuntu ltsp server to automount the cdrom drive on /cdrom? I would install ltspfs but I'm using this thin-client to connect to an NX server. The NX server accesses the thin-clients with Nautilus use sftp://sftp-cdrom@$NXUSERIP/media/cdrom, I've installed hal, when I look at ps aux it's running, but it doesn't automount the disc :-\
[06:08] <dmsuperman> calc: Plus seamless mode is pretty sexy :P
[06:08] <rdw200169> l7: using rEFIt, it's been a piece of cake
[06:08] <l7> LogicalDash: virtualbox is based on qemu but i think it's a bit more robust
[06:08] <dmsuperman> But, I have to go to bed
[06:08] <rdw200169> l7: refit gives me a boot menu, giving me the options of mac or ubuntu, right when i turn it on
[06:08] <dmsuperman> Gnight all
[06:08] <calc> dmsuperman: hmm i should take a look at vbox then i might have missed it when looking at stuff before
[06:08] <alexserver> may anyone help me to compile a module within a kernel
[06:08] <bdelin88> dmsuperman: i have poweriso on my desktop, how in the world do i run this thing... or install it?
[06:08] <mespejel> LogicalDash: i undesrtand what you are saying now.. of course i try to just quit it.. but what always happens is that it will supend the os (linux.. in that state.. and when i try to log in it wil start the same.. i mean just by force quit it will not shut down the linux os
[06:08] <LogicalDash> !repeat | alexserver
[06:09] <l7> calc: as much as i like Ubuntu, it's too tweaky for me so far.
[06:09] <bdelin88> dmsuperman: it just says "poweriso" with no extension after i extracted from tar.gz
[06:09] <l7> calc: hence, i still want to use OSX in some form
[06:09] <LogicalDash> mespejel: Well, in VirtualBox there's an option to discard the saved state when the machine is suspended. Does VMWare have something like that?
[06:09] <dmsuperman> bdelin88: Yeah, it's an executable
[06:09] <dmsuperman> bdelin88: extract it and type "poweriso -?"
[06:09] <alexserver> MAN !!! IS SO HARD TO KNOW ABOUT UBUNTU !!!
[06:09] <bdelin88> dmsuperman: k
[06:10] <l7> rdw200169: yeah, i'm not sure i like splitting my environment with a dual boot though
[06:10] <mespejel> LogicalDash: ok, good idea, i will look for it
[06:10] <mespejel> actually im going to vmware room
[06:10] <mespejel> brb
[06:10] <bdelin88> dmsuperman: nothing happens
[06:10] <l7> rdw200169: how much did you use ubuntu vs osx or windows?
[06:10] <glax> HI guys, I am trying to configure a wireless card on a compaq. lspci -nn returns this "06:00.0 Network controller [0280]: Broadcom Corporation Dell Wireless 1390 WLAN Mini-PCI Card [14e4:4311] (rev 01)", I already install bcm43xx-fwcutter and do modprobe bcm43xx but still the card is not detected
[06:10] <dmsuperman> bdelin88: What's it say
[06:10] <calc> alexserver: what kernel module are you trying to compile? is it not already compiled in ubuntu?
[06:10] <rdw200169> l7: well, i use ubuntu exclusively, but i've been using it for many yeras
[06:10] <bdelin88> dmsuperman: command not found
[06:10] <alexserver> people, i have a compaq presario, amd sempron, nvidia chipset, new ubuntu intrepid doesnt recognize my dvd
[06:10] <dmsuperman> bdelin88: "./poweriso -?"
[06:11] <bdelin88> dmsuperman: definitely didn't do the "./" part
[06:11] <rdw200169> l7: i just wish i could use the Omni products in linux...
[06:11] <rdw200169> l7: omnigraffle is the greatest thing on earth, but that's off topic
[06:11] <alexserver> calc: i found this page saying my problem could be solved if I compile ATA and IDE modules
[06:12] <alexserver> calc: http://thomer.com/howtos/dma_on_sata_dvd.html
[06:12] <gcbirzan> Hm. I'm trying to upgrade from Hardy to Intrepid via de the update manager and I just clicked on the "upgrade" button. Is it supposed to gray out the whole update manager window and not say anything for, uhm, 5 minutes?
[06:12] <alexserver> it says "Compile IDE and SATA into the kernel"
[06:13]  * calc been using ubuntu for 4 years now, debian for 6 years before that, and slackware for 3 before that
[06:13] <calc> alexserver: hmm i'm pretty sure i have dma on my sata dvd-rw without having to compile it directly in
[06:14] <calc> alexserver: that doc you are referring to is REALLY OLD
[06:14] <bdelin88> dmsuperman: i need your help maybe one last time, can you look at: http://paste.ubuntu.com/83351/ and tell me how i should convert this thing, i just tried it and it said invalid file format, could u just gimme a correct example with all your infinite command line knowledge?
[06:14] <calc> alexserver: 2.6.18 came out in sep 2006
[06:14] <calc> alexserver: i'm pretty sure you don't need to do that anymore
[06:14] <BlearyBram> gcbirzan: it shouldn't be that long…
[06:14] <gcbirzan> SATA doesn't have PIO
[06:15] <bdelin88> dmsuperman: i did: ./poweriso convert /home/bryce/Desktop/cd3/brasero.bin -o /home/bryce/Desktop/music3.iso -ot iso
[06:15] <gcbirzan> BlearyBram: I'm looking at the process list and I can see a "sleep 577" in there, heh.
[06:15] <alexserver> calc: what i need is to set my dvd-rw drive dma on
[06:15] <alexserver> cacl: and i can't do that
[06:15] <BlearyBram> calc: what do you think about the remedy of this bug #284408 about AMD dropping support for older display cards.
[06:15] <ReK_> Hey, I'm having problems getting networking to work with ubuntu as a guest OS in vmware
[06:16] <gcbirzan> alexserver: You probably don't, since it should be on by default.
[06:16] <calc> alexserver: should be done by default i think, looking at my system now
[06:16] <gcbirzan> BlearyBram: A-ha! I got the release notes dialog. :-)
[06:16] <dmsuperman> bdelin88: That looks right
[06:16] <dmsuperman> bdelin88: I'm not sure what's up
[06:16] <ReK_> It doesn't seem to be connecting at all. It should be bridged over, but my router never see ubuntu trying for an ip
[06:16] <calc> alexserver: yea its on by default on my system
[06:16] <dmsuperman> bdelin88: Something is wrong with something, I don't know how to fix it from here
[06:16] <dmsuperman> bdelin88: And I need to get some sleep :(
[06:16] <calc> alexserver: hdparm -i /dev/scd0 (or whatever on your system)
[06:16] <calc> alexserver: UDMA modes: udma0 udma1 udma2 udma3 udma4 *udma5
[06:16] <alexserver> calc: i've seen my dmesg and there is some trouble with bios, so my dvd mode is in PIO, not DMA
[06:17] <BlearyBram> I didn't think I've used fglrx but now the X Org simply unable to use any graphics card features (mine is a ATi Radeon Mobility 9200, it's a 3-4 year old machine).
[06:17] <bdelin88> dmsuperman: it's alright, thanks man
[06:17] <BlearyBram> calc: right, there you go.
[06:17] <bdelin88> dmsuperman: appreciate the help and patience
[06:17] <calc> alexserver: hdparm -d 1 /dev/scd0 might fix it
[06:17] <BlearyBram> oops, I meant gcbirzan
[06:17] <dmsuperman> bdelin88: Yup
[06:17] <calc> BlearyBram: so use the open source radeon driver?
[06:17] <alexserver> calc: I  know, I've been tried, but ot doesnt works, the troubles goes beyond I think
[06:17] <calc> BlearyBram: it fully supports your card
[06:18] <BlearyBram> well, open source or not, it doesn't help.
[06:18] <ganesh> is it possible to do gtalk  in ubuntu
[06:18] <calc> alexserver: get an updated bios?
[06:18] <BlearyBram> I've been even stupid enough to install the latest driver without realising that it isn't imcompatible.
[06:18] <alexserver> calc: yes
[06:18] <BlearyBram> !pidgin| ganesh
[06:18] <gcbirzan> calc: Actually, I don't think it does.
[06:19] <alexserver> calc: let me show you the problematic line
[06:19] <Seven_Six_Two> is there a way, in nautilus, to open a terminal window at the current location?
[06:19] <ganesh> BlearyBram, pidgin does only chat
[06:19] <ganesh> BlearyBram, i want to do voice chat
[06:19] <Seven_Six_Two> ganesh, skype or ekiga
[06:20] <gcbirzan> Oh, or. You mean the old open source driver.
[06:20] <alexserver> calc:   [    5.608485] ata4.00: ATAPI: MATSHITADVD-RAM UJ-850S, 1.05, max MWDMA2
[06:20] <balrog> why is gtk-window-decorator taking up 4.0 GiB of memory?  http://img392.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshotsystemmonitorkn7.png
[06:20] <alexserver> calc: [    5.608500] ata4: nv_mode_filter: 0x39f&0x7001->0x1, BIOS=0x0 (0x0) ACPI=0x7001 (60:600:0x11)
[06:20] <grendal_prime> I want an ai program that talks to me...like jarvis in iron man
[06:20] <gcbirzan> balrog: Because on 32bit machines, that's the maximum amout of memory a process can use? :-P
[06:20] <alexserver> calc: anf then [    5.624487] ata4.00: configured for PIO0
[06:20] <ganesh> Seven_Six_Two, through ekiga we have to register & to get some permission
[06:20] <grendal_prime> it doesnt exist do it
[06:20] <calc> BlearyBram: so why not just get rid of fglrx on your system and install the open source driver? i don't understand what you are complaining about, yes commercial companies drop support for old obsolete hardware that is why open source drivers are important
[06:21] <balrog> gcbirzan: so, youre telling me that gtk=window-decorator has one hell of a memory leak problem?
[06:21] <alexserver> calc: see ? my ubuntu is configured for DMA, but something goes wrong and then it sets to PIO
[06:21] <calc> alexserver: ouch an nvidia motherboard chipset, i'm sorry
[06:21] <Seven_Six_Two> ganesh, get some permission? do you just want to connect directly?
[06:21] <BlearyBram> calc: the problem isn't that: the problem is that a) I don't know where to drop the driver and b) even vesa is NOT responding.
[06:21] <balrog> gcbirzan: *gtk-window-decorator
[06:21] <alexserver> calc: what ? is tha so bad ?
[06:22] <calc> alexserver: nvidia is really anti open source and they have had buggy motherboard stuff in the past which might be why you are seeing that
[06:22] <ganesh> Seven_Six_Two, i do not want any similar applications which help for voice chat , i did skype but i didnt have any idea over ekiga
[06:22]  * grendal_prime loves his 1420 with nivida card
[06:22]  * calc notes his wife is calling so has to run for a bit
[06:22] <alex_21> Hi, can someone please PM me. I need to know about any good gnome GPS software that works on Ubuntu/Ubuntu-mobile
[06:22]  * grendal_prime never had an invidia card before.
[06:22] <ganesh> Seven_Six_Two, how am i using gmail in ubuntu like that i want to use the gtalk in ubuntu
[06:23] <alexserver> calc: dont tell me that !!! so am I in troubles ?
[06:23] <powertool08> ganesh: empathy looks like it will do the job http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=819046
[06:23] <balrog> nvidia is not anti foss, they just created a memory manager, and they dont want to open source that because it will give the ati drivers an advantage over what ati currently nas (nothing)
[06:23] <ganesh> powertool08, sure empathy will do that
[06:23] <Seven_Six_Two> ganesh, oh sorry, I must have come late. I never got it to work, that's why I use skype.
[06:23] <gcbirzan> BlearyBram: I'm not sure exactly how you're supposed to do it in Ubuntu, but in Debian, installing fglrx is just a matter of running m-a a-i fglrx
[06:24] <balrog> so, nobody knows why gtk-window-decorator is using 4.0 GiB of ram?
[06:24] <gcbirzan> Which m-a is part of module-assistant
[06:24] <powertool08> ganesh: look at the link and see if it looks like it will work for you
[06:24] <BlearyBram> gcbirzan: is fglrx a closed or open-source thing? (just checking)
[06:25] <alexserver> calc: when  was using ubuntu 7.04 my dvd was working like a charm !!! so, there is no hope to me for make this works in 8.10 ?
[06:25] <alexserver> calc: should I get back to 7.04 ?
[06:25] <gcbirzan> BlearyBram: It's the proprietary driver. The open source radeonhd one won't work for your card, and the old open source one is called, ah...  Hm, I forgot. :-P
[06:25] <BlearyBram> gcbirzan: ah, removing fglrx does the trick, thanks. :P
[06:25] <gcbirzan> BlearyBram: ati, maybe? *shrugs* 'sbeen a while since I bothered with it, since it doesn't support my video card at all.
[06:25] <powertool08> BlearyBram: gcbirzan "ati" or "radeon"
[06:26] <Acedip> how to compile and run java programs in 8.10
[06:26] <BlearyBram> gcbirzan, powertool08: it seemed to be resolved for now, though I'd update the (open) radeon driver just for sure.
[06:26] <BlearyBram> I didn't even know I had fglrx!
[06:27] <BlearyBram> must be part of the restricted drivers I've installed in the restricted package.
[06:29] <alexserver> calc: are you there man ?
[06:29] <Severian> Howdy.  I want to make a JeOS installed system run gnome on startup.  I have been searching the web for what to do, and have not found instructions for 8.10(intrepid ibex).  Any suggestions?
[06:29] <Acedip> how to compile and run java programs in 8.10 ??
[06:30] <calc> alexserver: back now
[06:30] <lif0> hey hey hey
[06:30] <calc> alexserver: does the kern.log mention anything about why it doesn't have dma? it might be blacklisted or something
[06:30] <alex_21> Hey, thanks for all your help
[06:30] <alex_21> Good night. Bani bash
[06:30] <Synchronos> Can someone please help me figure out why I can't see any of my windows in the bottom taskbar?
[06:31] <alexserver> calc: where is the ken.log stored ?
[06:31] <Severian> Acedip, install the sun-java6-bin package
[06:31] <alex_21> Synchronos: Is it the same reason I can't. Blind smiley. No, probably not. Did you minimize them at any point?
[06:32] <calc> alexserver: var/log
[06:32] <alex_21> Oh, did you get rid off the bottom pannel?
[06:32] <Synchronos> alex_21: no the bottom panel is there  I just can't see the windows
[06:33] <ganesh> powertool08, ok
[06:33] <Synchronos> alex_21: also this applies to all my windows when I start them up.
[06:34] <alexserver> calc: i have found it, I'm reading it, do you have any clue ? any keyword so i can find such error if there was ?
[06:36] <shbika> Does anyone know a way to use skype without killing the pulseaudio
[06:36] <calc> alexserver: not really sure, it depends on what they felt like putting on the output
[06:36] <Ayabara> !lighttpd
[06:36] <jtaji> Severian: sudo aptitutde install ubuntu-desktop
[06:36] <macjason0607> help http://paste.ubuntu.com/83362/
[06:37] <rdw200169> shbika: you might be able to use padsp
[06:37] <Severian> jtaji, There is more to it than that.  Gnome does not start.
[06:37] <Wicked> ive downloaded some themes from gnome look ...where do i put them?
[06:37] <Severian> At least not automatically.  I tried startx, but that did not work.
[06:38] <powertool08> macjason0607: what are you trying to do? resize a partition or something?
[06:38] <jtaji> Severian: than maybe it's an issue specific to JeOS, any reason you are using it?
[06:38] <macjason0607> powertool08, copy all the contents
[06:38] <macjason0607> i got it
[06:38] <macjason0607> thanks anyway
[06:38] <iuri> hi there, i installed diff-ext and meld on my box. how do i link both
[06:39] <alexserver> calc: i saw the same 3 lines i show you before
[06:39] <alexserver> calc: ata4: nv_mode_filter: 0x39f&0x7001->0x1, BIOS=0x0 (0x0) ACPI=0x7001 (60:600:0x11)
[06:39] <Severian> jtaji, What I am really doing is building virtual machines with vmbuilder.  It starts with JeOS as a base.
[06:40] <calc> alexserver: not sure what that means other than maybe its your bios screwing up your system?
[06:40] <shbika> rdw200169: can you please explain more what is padsp ? How can I use it for skype
[06:40] <calc> alexserver: looks like a register and port number maybe, but not sure
[06:40] <calc> alexserver: i haven't looked at ide kernel stuff in many years
[06:41] <rmendoza> hello
[06:41] <Severian> jtaji, The problem left is to configure gdm properly, I believe.  Instructions on how to setup Gnome on Ubuntu Server or JeOS would probably tell me what is left to do.
[06:41] <rmendoza> hello i am new here
[06:41] <jtaji> Severian: on ubuntu server installing ubuntu-desktop will work.. your issue is specific to JeOS or your virtualization setup
[06:41] <alexserver> calc: could you tell mw who can help me? or where do i have to go so i can solve this unfortunate problem ?
[06:42] <calc> alexserver: file a bug report in launchpad?
[06:42] <jtaji> Severian: and I'm not at all familiar with JeOS except knowing it's stripped down, including the kernel
[06:42] <alexserver> calc: I also have a report regarding ths isue
[06:43] <alexserver> calc: but no one hav answered, I suppose because it's a new complain
[06:43] <actionfigure> video problem
[06:43] <alex_21> Synchronos: I have no idea about your windows. Blind appologetic smiley. Sorry
[06:44] <alexserver> calc: I suppose i need to have patience so hopefully this issue could be solved in next relase
[06:44] <actionfigure> i have an intel i810 and the xf86-video-intel is installed but i cant run blender..it crashed...i wanna know how to replace it with the xf86-video-i810....
[06:45] <actionfigure> anyone help?
[06:46] <renjith> Hi All
[06:46] <Zeroedout> are those package names?
[06:47] <renjith> is this possible to get default DNS  address while the SetIp option is set?
[06:47] <alexserver> calc: thanks for your assistance, you have been so usefull my friend
[06:47] <darius12> would you like recent eclipse packaged for ubuntu? would you be willing to help?
[06:48] <actionfigure> Zeroedout, me?
[06:48] <Zeroedout> yes
[06:48] <actionfigure> yes
[06:48] <actionfigure> those are the names
[06:48] <Zeroedout> did you try apt-get install package?
[06:48] <actionfigure> no i use the synaptic
[06:49] <Zeroedout> and what happened when you tried to install it?
[06:49] <actionfigure> i tried installling the i810 but then x doesnt work at all
[06:49] <actionfigure> i mean it igonres it i think
[06:49] <Zeroedout> did you change the driver in xorg.conf?
[06:49] <actionfigure> when i change the driver to i810 in the conf file..thats why it wont startx
[06:49] <alex_21> Good night. Bani bash
[06:50] <calc> alexserver: you might want to bring it up on the kernel bug tracker also
[06:50] <actionfigure> Zeroedout, i noticed that i740 was also installed..i uninstalled it since i didnt think i needed it
[06:50] <Zeroedout> what error does /var/log/Xorg.0.log give you?
[06:50] <actionfigure> let me check
[06:50] <calc> alexserver: if they look at it and fix it then it won't matter if the ubuntu people do or not
[06:52] <actionfigure> Zeroedout, i dont know where to start
[06:52] <Zeroedout> cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[06:52] <alexserver> calc: ok, do you know where can i report a kernel bug ?
[06:52] <actionfigure> Zeroedout, i did..i mean for errors
[06:53] <calc> http://bugzilla.kernel.org/
[06:53] <Zeroedout> what are the last few lines in the log saying?
[06:53] <calc> alexserver: it seems they like people to just report about mainline kernels so they might not want the bug without you trying an unpatched kernel first
[06:54] <zod21> whats up fellas!!?
[06:54] <Zeroedout> if you need to copy paste, do it to the ubuntu paste
[06:54] <shbika>  rdw200169:thank you for your response. my Skype is now working with pulse without a problem
[06:54] <Everett> Can anyone point me to a resource for assistance with building intltool from trunk?
[06:54] <actionfigure> Zeroedout, just the mouse info
[06:54] <Zeroedout> ......yet X doesn't sart?
[06:54] <rdw200169> shbika: oh, cool, sorry i didn't reply quicker, i got sidetracked
[06:54] <Everett> Just need to know if there are any options needed for the autogen.sh command
[06:54] <iank_> hi
[06:54] <rdw200169> shbika: padsp also works on realplayer
[06:54] <actionfigure> Zeroedout, x starts....blender looks garbled and crashes...all 3d progs do that
[06:55] <iank_> how are you
[06:55] <Zeroedout> anything in dmesg about i810?
[06:55] <alexserver> calc: what is an unpatched kernel ? is that a compiled kernel ? compiled from scratch ?
[06:55] <actionfigure> Zeroedout, ill paste it.....
[06:55] <shbika> rdw200169:ok I will install realplayer and give it a try
[06:56] <calc> alexserver: compiled from scratch downloaded from kernel.org
[06:56] <calc> i'm headed to bed i'm at UDS and have the UbuFlu
[06:56] <bdelin88> is there anyone out there that can help me with converting .bin/.cue to iso... this is miserable and complicated and nothing seems to work
[06:57] <bdelin88> even poweriso for some reason
[06:57] <calc> bdelin88: you can burn them with nero linux iirc
[06:57] <bdelin88> bchunk put it into a bunch of cdr files
[06:57] <bdelin88> calc: haven't tried
[06:57] <calc> bdelin88: bchuck claims to convert
[06:57] <calc> bchunk - CD image format conversion from bin/cue to iso/cdr
[06:57] <Architect> Hello Ubuntu community!
[06:57] <actionfigure> Zeroedout, http://paste.ubuntu.com/83369/
[06:57] <calc> cue2toc - converts CUE files to cdrdao's TOC format
[06:57] <calc> cuetools - tools for manipulating CUE/TOC files
[06:57] <bdelin88> calc: it's an audio cd and it puts it into cdr, i don't know how to tell it .iso
[06:58] <alexserver> calc: hahahaha, wow, this sounds as a challenge for a newbie like me !! I haven't compiled yet a kernel
[06:58] <Architect> Does anybody have a solution to my computer displaying a grey screen and doing absolutely nothing upon attempted installation of Ubuntu?
[06:58] <calc> oh for an audio cd the cue2toc might work, not really sure
[06:58] <calc> bdelin88: .iso isn't audio format though so you don't want that afaik
[06:58] <calc> iso refers to iso9660
[06:59] <Zeroedout> actionfigure: hrmm, when blender crashes, does it give you an error?
[06:59] <actionfigure> no
[06:59] <DJ_HaMsTa> Architect: do u have ati drivers ?
[06:59] <Architect> Aye.
[06:59] <calc> ok now i'm off to bed
[06:59] <Zeroedout> not even a segfault?
[06:59] <DJ_HaMsTa> i was having that problem
[06:59] <DJ_HaMsTa> let me tell u
[06:59] <DJ_HaMsTa> pain in the ass to get it working
[06:59] <actionfigure> i open it usning the menu..let me try the terminal
[06:59] <histo> bdelin88, k3b should do it and a host of other burning applications
[07:00] <bdelin88> calc: mounting it is what i want
[07:00] <transporter> i would appreciate if somebody could help me with bluetooth file transfers
[07:00] <bdelin88> histo: i just found k3b and it seems to do it
[07:00] <bdelin88> histo: i wonder why it does not support iso
[07:00] <Zeroedout> k3b does support iso
[07:00] <bdelin88> histo: it says "Writing Mode: Auto, DAO, TAO, TOC"?
[07:00] <histo> bdelin88, bchunk will do it also
[07:01] <histo> bdelin88, Disk at once, track at once, etc...
[07:01] <bdelin88> histo: bchunk is terrible in my experience, it converted it to a crapload of .cdr files instead of an iso
[07:01] <actionfigure> Zeroedout,    Compiled with Python version 2.5.2. Checking for installed Python... got it! Segmentation fault
[07:01] <bdelin88> histo: which one is .iso?
[07:01] <transporter>  i would appreciate if somebody could help me with bluetooth file transfers
[07:01] <bdelin88> histo: or nm i see what you are saying, but how do i tell it .sio
[07:01] <histo> bdelin88, wlel you have to bchunk image.bin image.cue image.iso
[07:01] <Architect> DJ_HaMsTa: What did you do to fix it?
[07:01] <bdelin88> histo: .iso*
[07:01] <bdelin88> histo: i did
[07:01] <histo> bdelin88, hrm.. well in k3b you should be able to export as iso or sometihgn.
[07:02] <Zeroedout> bdelin88: lol, not very helpful, you did remove the old driver and modrpobe i810 right?
[07:02] <alexserver> calc: thanks
[07:02] <transporter>  i would appreciate if somebody could help me with bluetooth file transfers
[07:02] <ardchoille> !repeat | transporter
[07:02] <bdelin88> Zeroedout: that is just computer gibberish to me lol, i have no idea
[07:03] <dnyy> What would be the system requirements to run XP in a virtual machine?
[07:03] <Melik> can i remove qt 4?
[07:03] <Zeroedout> modprobe -r <old driver>                      modprobe i810 (both as root)
[07:03] <powertool08> dnyy: I've done it on my amd athlon xp 2800+ with 1 gb ram and it does ok most of the time
[07:04] <Zeroedout> but if you rebooted the pc after installing the driver through synaptic then it wont make a difference
[07:04] <bdelin88> histo: i am in "burn cd image" and it says i can burn an image to an image... but i can't select to burn to an .iso any ideas?
[07:04] <dnyy> powertool08: err, I've only got 512MB.  I'm startin' to think I'm stuck using CS2 in wine.
[07:04] <actionfigure> Zeroedout, heres my  dmesg   http://paste.ubuntu.com/83374/
[07:04] <bdelin88> i do not have time for all this crap, why is this so difficult on linux :(
[07:04] <bdelin88> windows -> poweriso, done
[07:05] <grendal_prime> so no talking ai/personality type apps (like jarvis in ironman)
[07:05] <powertool08> dnyy: cs2? as in photoshop? GIMP is a pretty good photoshop replacement
[07:05] <bdelin88> linux -> poweriso -> file unsupported, even though it is listed as supported
[07:05] <dnyy> powertool08: Well I'm doing freelance work, and don't have the time (at the moment at least) to try and learn new software.  But I can't install Windows due to broken CD drive. :/
[07:05] <Zeroedout> bdelin88: it could be a problem with the driver, but maybe you don't have the correct one installed
[07:06] <powertool08> dnyy: It does pretty much everything anyone except top professionals would use, just moved some things around with slightly different terminology on stuff
[07:06] <Zeroedout> what is your videocards chipset? you may be able to check with lspci
[07:06] <grendal_prime> thats to bad i had a huge project i have to work on and if i had a computer like  jarvis (the one in ironman) i would sure get it done faster.
[07:06] <bdelin88> Zeroedout: what driver, it's a cdrw drive?
[07:06] <actionfigure> Zeroedout, you got my message? :)
[07:06] <Zeroedout> yea, lol, was talking to actionfigure
[07:06] <powertool08> dnyy: its pretty similar imo so its not hard to pick up if you already have a good grip on photoshop
[07:06] <dnyy> powertool08: Well I'll look into it in my free time.  I've got another computer to use PS on atm, so no rush.
[07:07] <actionfigure> Zeroedout, intel
[07:07] <powertool08> dnyy: also, if you run the most minimal host system possible and dedicate more to the virtual machine it will help
[07:07] <actionfigure> Zeroedout, 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82815 Chipset Graphics Controller (CGC) (rev 04)
[07:07] <dnyy> powertool08: The dashed line around the image you're editing always confuses me, makes me think I have the whole image selected. :(
[07:08] <Architect> Is there anyone else here who knows how to install even with ATI drivers?
[07:08] <grendal_prime> my oldes son does albulm cover art with gimp.  He was showing me tonight all these crazy brushes and gradiants he found on the internet.
[07:08] <dnyy> Is there an app for converting photoshop brushes to gimp brushes?
[07:08] <grendal_prime> he had to walk way from the machine because he said he would be up all night if he kept at it. hehehe.
[07:09] <almark> Hello what can I do to get my sound setup properly in Ubuntu 8.10 I did a sound test at the command line, Due to Ubuntu having no alsaconf and I know why it doesn't, I just need to know what to do get my card to work with it.
[07:09] <grendal_prime> dnyy: i think they are the same.
[07:09] <actionfigure> Zeroedout, i do see a i810 when i lsmod
[07:09] <Zeroedout> actionfigure: hrmm, it looks lke you're definatly using the right driver....... you did restart your system or atleast modprobe the new driver right?
[07:10] <dnyy> grendal_prime: ah, well looks like i'll be playing with gimp tomorrow. hopefully it'll live up to my hopes. :p
[07:10] <whynot> When I enjoy music with ubuntu alsa, some process affects alsa and the music used to stop and play.  How can I prevent other process from affecting alsa?
[07:10] <rdw200169> whynot: that's why pulseaudio was created...
[07:10] <whynot> pulseaudio?
[07:10] <actionfigure> Zeroedout, i didnt have to modprobe since its using the right driver
[07:10] <rdw200169> !pulseaudio > whynot
[07:11] <almark> When I go to the login screen I can hear the drum sound, and the sound test with the static from a term.
[07:11] <actionfigure> Zeroedout, but then i install the old i810 driver...i change the driver to i810 in xorg and then it wont start x
[07:11] <grendal_prime> My understanding is that some stuff there is more of, simply because they are opensource and alot of people are contributing.
[07:11] <almark> But that is the only way I can hear sound I have a Audigy Se SB
[07:11] <grendal_prime> dnyy:  sorry that was for you.
[07:11] <grendal_prime> im going to bed.
[07:12] <actionfigure> Zeroedout, are you good at checking these kinda things? if so..i dont mind you sshing my box
[07:12] <grendal_prime> was a long ass day night folks
[07:13] <Zeroedout> actionfigure: i don't think there's much i can do. it seems to be a problem with the driver, does glxinfo give you an error as well?
[07:13] <Everett> Running h804, is there a howto on upgrading gnome and / or Orca to 2.24.x?
[07:14] <actionfigure> Zeroedout, http://paste.ubuntu.com/83375/
[07:14] <ikonia> Everett: you can't upgrade gnome outside of official ubuntu packages
[07:14] <almark> Am I not asking the right questions?
[07:14] <sparr> linux says my NIC MAC address is invalid, likely due to a known issue with it being read backwards.  Due to this I get assigned a random MAC and an incremented ethXX device number every time I reboot.  Is there some way to avoid that?
[07:14] <ikonia> Everett: (technically you can but everything would break)
[07:15] <ikonia> sparr: get a card thats supported ?
[07:15] <Everett> ikonia: should I be able to upgrade to i810 using apt-get dist-upgrade?
[07:15] <vladtsepesh1984> i have a problem....i'm able to sync contact from evolution to ppc with evo2sync msynctool's plugin but i can't sync contact or any other things from ppc to evol....can somebody help me????
[07:15] <sparr> ikonia: its built into my motherboard, and it worked fine for years.  up until about gutsy
[07:15] <ikonia> Everett i810 is not gnome, thats an Xorg driver
[07:16] <ikonia> Everett: and i810 is installed by default, so there is nothing to upgrade to
[07:16] <ikonia> sparr: check the bug report on the card, push it forward if it's been broken for that long
[07:16] <Everett> ikonia: here is my situation.  1. I'm blind 2. I installed hardy 804 using accessible install (which is broken in intrepid).  3. I need to do some testing with Orca 2.24.x
[07:16] <almark> How do I setup sound without alsaconf?
[07:16] <visof> how can i change the screen resolution in ubuntu , my graphics card is nvidia Geforce
[07:16] <Zeroedout> actionfigure: so driver seems to be okay, does glxgears crash?
[07:16] <Everett> ikonia: Orca 2.22.x is what comes in hardy
[07:16] <actionfigure> Zeroedout, no but it looks garbled
[07:17] <Zeroedout> actionfigure: it might be worthwhile to file a bug report with launchpad
[07:17] <ikonia> Everett: well, I don't know about oraca details, but the best thing I can suggest is to log a bug requesting a package update be put into hardy
[07:17] <ikonia> Everett: that would be the most sensible thing to not break anything and get eh package you want
[07:17] <actionfigure> Zeroedout, why do xorg.confg look so small in ubuntu. ...in other distros its huge....
[07:18] <Everett> ikonia: is it worth trying to install orca 2.24 from the intrepid repo?
[07:18] <rww> Everett: no, that's a Bad Idea
[07:18] <Zeroedout> actionfigure: lol, when i upgraded to intrepid it fucked my xorg.conf, but i restored it to an earlier one, it might have to do with the graphical crash thing
[07:18] <Everett> rww: bad like certainly won't work, or might cause problems?  Been struggling with trying to get orca 2.24 on any distro all week.
[07:18] <rww> !ohmy | Zeroedout
[07:19] <actionfigure> Zeroedout, http://paste.ubuntu.com/83376/
[07:19] <ardchoille> Everett: I would log a bug report. Given that this is a special circumstance (accessibility) it might go through.
[07:19] <Winnipeger> Hi... I want to setup aa fully encrypted triple boot system, fedora 10, Ubuntu Ibex, and Debian Lenny. Setting up just one is easy. But can it be done with three?
[07:19] <actionfigure> Zeroedout, thats my entire xorg.conf file
[07:19] <rww> Everett: it's very likely to cause problems
[07:19] <rww> Everett: Intrepid does have 2.24, though, so you could upgrade to it if you don't mind the effort...
[07:19] <jtaji> actionfigure: the latest xorg configures itself quite effectively, xorg.conf is not necessary in most situations anymore
[07:19] <rdw200169> Winnipeger: you mean, where they all share the same encrypted home directory?
[07:20] <Everett> rww: ok, thanks for the heads up.  I'm pretty sure bugs on this have already been logged.  At least on the broken accessible install.
[07:20] <Winnipeger> rdw200169: Yup.
[07:20] <actionfigure> jtaji, im having major problems running blender or wings3d.....
[07:20] <Zeroedout> actionfigure: lol, since nothing else is working, try using a more generic xorg.conf and see what happens
[07:20] <ardchoille> Everett: even if bugs have been logged, there's power in numbers :)
[07:20] <ikonia> Everett: apologiese I lost connection for a moment, only use packages designed for your current release
[07:20] <actionfigure> Zeroedout, where can i get that from?
[07:20] <rdw200169> Winnipeger: i imagine it would be pretty easy b/w lenny and ubuntu, but i don't know about fedora
[07:20] <Everett> I don't suppose there's a vbox image of intrepid out there somewhere?
[07:20] <actionfigure> Zeroedout, what if i downgrade to 8.04
[07:20] <Winnipeger> rdw200169: But if that is too complicated, I would be willing to have a separate data partition that they share and separate homes
[07:21] <actionfigure> Zeroedout, is it interpid thats causing this problem/
[07:21] <rdw200169> Winnipeger: that would be best, it's the standard to have a separate partition for one shared /home
[07:21] <actionfigure> jtaji, so far interpid is not working well with my box....
[07:22] <rdw200169> Everett: why not just install intrepid, thus having an image, in vbox?
[07:22] <Zeroedout> actionfigure: if you've got time to kill, go for it. but if you like, i can pastebin my xorg.conf and you can try that.............
[07:22] <warriorforgod> What would cause a sudo apt-get dist-upgrade to not work on hardy?
[07:22] <rdw200169> Everett: you can tell vbox to use the .iso of the install image for a 'cd-rom'
[07:22] <ikonia> warriorforgod: define not work
[07:22] <Everett> rdw: I would love too, but accessible install is broken in intrepid.
[07:22] <Winnipeger> Ok... so then I essentially create three encrypted systems using each installer, create an encrypted data partition once using the first installer. That sounds simplest?
[07:22] <warriorforgod> ikonia: It says no packages to upgrade
[07:23] <ikonia> Everett: as I said, request a package update (log a bug for it explaining your reasons)
[07:23] <rdw200169> Everett: what do you mean, the kernel doesn't work?
[07:23] <ikonia> warriorforgod: then your up to date
[07:23] <warriorforgod> Wouldn't intrepid be up to date?
[07:23] <Everett> rdw: I'm blind and need to use Orca for install.  I guess it's time to breakdown and try the long and tricky workaround for intrepid with fingers crossed.
[07:23] <ardchoille> !upgrade | warriorforgod
[07:23] <actionfigure> Zeroedout, but how will ubuntu know your xorg if its using different driver names and such
[07:23] <Winnipeger> Does Ibex allow the creation of a fully encrypted system that doesn't use all available disk space? I'd need to reserve 14 GB for the other two
[07:23] <rdw200169> Everett: ohhh, i see
[07:23] <rww> warriorforgod: you don't upgrade to intrepid with dist-upgrade ;)
[07:23] <ikonia> warriorforgod: thats a different distro -
[07:23] <rdw200169> Everett: sorry, i wasn't paying attention
[07:24] <warriorforgod> I understand that.  When I run sudo apt-get dist-upgrade it doesn't upgrade the system.
[07:24] <ikonia> warriorforgod: you've jusut been told not to use that to upgrade
[07:24] <ardchoille> warriorforgod: that command isn't suppoed to take you to the next release
[07:24] <ikonia> warriorforgod: it's better to read how to upgrade before assuming anything
[07:24] <Everett> rdw: no problem.  I know that an accessible install is possible in intrepid, it just requires a lot of commands to be entered without Orca to get orca up and running.
[07:24] <ikonia> !upgrade > warriorforgod
[07:25] <warriorforgod> I get it now.  My bad.
[07:25] <Zeroedout> actionfigure: http://paste.ubuntu.com/83381/  I just made the main necessary change, should work fine............. just bakcup your one now, mv xorg.conf xorg.conf.bak
[07:26] <StevenX> Where can I find the sources file that tells Ubuntu what repositories to use?
[07:26] <Everett> Thanks for all of your assistance confirming what I figured would be what I have to do.
[07:26] <rww> StevenX: /etc/apt/sources.list
[07:26] <ardchoille> StevenX:  /etc/apt/sources.list
[07:26] <e-frame> i experienced few times about uncomplete upgrade. i did upgrade via console, but the upgrade notification icon was still telling me about available upgrades. i did upgrade via console once again and find nothing. but when i tried to upgrade via synaptic, there were some upgrades available. then i upgraded it there. so was it normal ?
[07:26] <StevenX> ty
[07:26] <actionfigure> Zeroedout, thanks....ill try that soon...downloading 8.04 first before messing this up
[07:26] <rdw200169> rww: ardchoille, speed test!
[07:26] <actionfigure> Zeroedout, thanks for all your help though....... :)
[07:26] <ardchoille> hehe
[07:26] <actionfigure> Zeroedout, its greatly appreciated
[07:26] <Everett> Just to confirm, there's no way to upgrade from hardy to intrepid from the terminal?
[07:27] <whynot> What is OSS?
[07:27] <ardchoille> !upgrade | Everett
[07:27] <ardchoille> whyameye: open source software
[07:27] <ardchoille> whynot:  open source software
[07:27] <Zeroedout> actionfigure: lol, don't worry about, if it messes anything up, just mv your old xorg.conf and it'll be back to the way it is
[07:27] <rww> whynot: or Open Sound System
[07:28] <whynot> Thank you.  ESD, OSS, ALSA, PULSEAUDIO.... I'm confused.
[07:28] <rdw200169> whynot: scrap ESD and OSS, they're old and deprecated
[07:28] <natalisushka> Hi, how can I know the kernel version from command line?
[07:28] <actionfigure> Zeroedout, but how to i kill X if when i kill it it pops back up again
[07:28] <e-frame> simple story: upgrade from terminal only upgrades some packages. other packages only available via synaptic. that is the problem i'm asking
[07:28] <rww> Everett: specifically, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IntrepidUpgrades#Network%20Upgrade%20for%20Ubuntu%20Servers%20(Recommended) will work for hardy->intrepid even if you're using a non-server install
[07:28] <ikonia> natalisushka: uname -a
[07:28] <rdw200169> whynot: stick with pulseaudio/alsa
[07:29] <ardchoille> natalisushka: uname -r
[07:29] <rdw200169> whynot: alsa is kinda like hardware-layer, and pulseaudio runs on top of alsa, to provide software mixing
[07:29] <Zeroedout> actionfigure: /etc/init.d/gdm stop (as root, replace with kdm if using kubunutu)
[07:30] <actionfigure> Zeroedout, thanks again :)  will do
[07:30] <Everett> rww: Looks like that uses the gui upgrade tool.  No notes on duing this from the terminal?
[07:30] <rdw200169> whynot: technically, pulseaudio uses alsa to push sound, consequentially, apps that say they use only OSS actually use ALSA, they just don't know it, b/c alsa has OSS-ALSA compatibility
[07:30] <natalisushka> ikonia, ardchoille thanks :) now I have a question concerning the kernels, I want to understand what is the use of leaving previous versions that existed before previous updates, and whether I can remove them or not
[07:30] <actionfigure> Zeroedout, one thing....i dont see your depth line in your xorg
[07:30] <sushiX> i am not able to access my sessions setting any idea
[07:30] <rdw200169> whynot: further, pulseaudio has ESD compatibility
[07:30] <whynot> rdw200169/My computer has low hardware profile, so I hesitate to try pulseaudio, I'm afraid that pulseaudio would make my computer much slower.
[07:30] <ikonia> natalisushka: if you don't want to use them, please remove them
[07:30] <ikonia> natalisushka: thats all they are there fore
[07:30] <ikonia> for
[07:31] <Zeroedout> actionfigure: right at the bottom under "Screen"
[07:31] <ikonia> whynot: not really a an overhead
[07:31] <ardchoille> natalisushka: you can indeed remove old kernels, but it's good practice to keep the current one and the previous one just in case an update causes a problem
[07:31] <rdw200169> whynot: it's possible, but you have to forego the possibility for two apps to push sound at the same time
[07:31] <sluimers> Hello, My mouse and keyboard is not working in the login screen after a crashed upgrade from hardy to ibix, can someone help me with this?
[07:31] <actionfigure> Zeroedout, i mean  the 1024x768 800x600 etc
[07:31] <sluimers> I would like to login
[07:32] <ikonia> sluimers: a failed update is probably better to do a clean install to get to a sane situation
[07:32] <Zeroedout> X should auto-detect it, if not you can add it in manually under screen
[07:32] <rdw200169> whynot: it's more possible though, that if you downgrade your window environment, you will get a much larger performance boost, like xfce, etc...
[07:32] <ikonia> sluimers: it can be quite a long process to work out whats working and not and fix it
[07:32] <rdw200169> whynot: instead of gnome/kde
[07:32] <whynot> ok.  Actually, I'm satisfied the sound quality of alsa.  the only problem is ..while I do some task, that process affects alsa and music.
[07:32] <natalisushka> ardchoille, that's what I guessed, keep the current and previous, so just for me to understand the real use of kernels. Are they basic code of linux that bridge software and hardware?
[07:32] <almark> why is pulseaudio my defualt in alsamixer, and how do i get my soundcard to work with Sound preferences?
[07:33] <ardchoille> natalisushka: basically, yes
[07:33] <skaboy> hey was up
[07:33] <Paddy_EIRE> almark, Because pulseaudio is default
[07:34] <skaboy> i got a question
[07:34] <dbugger> Hello!
[07:34] <ikonia> skaboy: please ask it
[07:34] <Paddy_EIRE> !pulse | almark
[07:34] <almark> :Paddy_EIRE thanks for the answer, but how do I get alsamixer to work, I can't get sound from my soundcards
[07:34] <skaboy> on ubuntu the virus works???
[07:34] <natalisushka> ardchoille, what is the difference between linux-restricted and linux-headers?
[07:34] <Paddy_EIRE> !alsa | almark
[07:34] <skaboy> do i need a antivirus????????????????????????
[07:34] <rhA> ............
[07:34] <ardchoille> natalisushka: That's a but out of my league I'm afraid
[07:34] <whynot> rdw200169/I experienced MS- DOS, if I determined to learn linux command I think I can.    I'm already accustomed to the GUI environment.
[07:34] <ikonia> skaboy: ubuntu is not effected by virus's in the same way as windows
[07:34] <actionfigure> Zeroedout, thanks again :)  greatlly appreciate it
[07:34] <ikonia> skaboy: one "?" mark is enough
[07:35] <Zeroedout> actionfigure: did it work?
[07:35] <natalisushka> ardchoille, thanks :)
[07:35] <dbugger> I've been trying for ours to set up a webserver that runs PERL but have no success... either I get a 403 error or i get a Open/save Dialog Box. :( Can someone please help me?
[07:35] <actionfigure> Zeroedout, gone a try soon....burning 8.04 just in case :)
[07:35] <skaboy> but do i need 1 or not?
[07:35] <ikonia> skaboy: not really know
[07:35] <almark> Thank YE
[07:35] <Paddy_EIRE> !virus | skaboy
[07:35] <ardchoille> !antivirus | skaboy
[07:35] <ikonia> skaboy: sorry not really "no"
[07:35] <natalisushka> Anyone knows what is the difference between linux-restricted and linux-headers kernels? And what does server or generic refer to?
[07:35] <Everett> Just confirming that there is no commandline upgrade to intrepid, not nagging, just using a horribly inaccessible IRC client and this room is busy, might have missed the answer.
[07:36] <ikonia> natalisushka: restricted are closed source modules, headers are the kernels headers
[07:36] <gcbirzan> Everett: you can try aptitude update; aptitude dist-upgrade
[07:36] <Zeroedout> actionfigure: lol, the power in linux rests is being able to fix (especially so if you like the command line) let me know it it worked either way :)
[07:36] <ikonia> natalisushka: server is a kernel designed for enteprise hardware, generic is for desktop/home user kit
[07:36] <skaboy> because there is a video that it says avg antivirus for ubuntu
[07:36] <ikonia> skaboy: I really wouldn't worry about it if I was you
[07:37] <skaboy> but thank you guys
[07:37] <ikonia> skaboy: just use common sense in how you use ubuntu and you'll be fine
[07:37] <Everett> gcbirzan: I tried apt-get update apt-get dist-upgrade with no luck.  is hat the same?
[07:37] <whynot> Most of younger generation who are used to window GUI don't know how to input/use command line, and that's one of many reasons they keep using windows, I guess.
[07:37] <natalisushka> ikonia, thanks :) But I need a sort of explaination that will help me determine what to use (when grug gives me options) just in certain case
[07:37] <gcbirzan> Everett: Yeah. You must have intrepid in /etc/apt/sources.list, instead of what distribution you have now.
[07:37] <ardchoille> Everett: apt-get dist-upgrade is not intended to take you to the next release of Ubuntu
[07:37] <ikonia> natalisushka: grub won't give you options, grub will only present what you install
[07:38] <skaboy> oh and how can use the effects
[07:38] <ikonia> natalisushka: kernel-headers and restriced modules are not kernels ether so they won't show up in grub
[07:38] <skaboy> or how can i get more effects?
[07:38] <ikonia> !compiz > skaboy
[07:38] <Zeroedout> whynot: I disagree, i grew up with windows guis and I love linux
[07:38] <Everett> ardchoill: not intended, or wont work?
[07:38] <almark> Paddy_EIRE: alsamixer does work, But I get no sound no matter what I do, But... I hear drums in the Ubuntu login and If I do a tem sound test then I hear static. Please help.
[07:38] <k4rjj> #hamradio
[07:38] <ikonia> natalisushka: if you installed the desktop CD - you will get the generic kernel, if you got the server CD you will get the server kernel
[07:38] <whynot> zeroedout/ I said MOST not all of them.
[07:38] <ikonia> natalisushka: so grub will only present what you installed
[07:39] <ikonia> natalisushka: does that make it clear ?
[07:39] <natalisushka> ikonia, yes some how. But why do I have both genreic and server? I installed ubuntu from Desktop CD
[07:39] <ardchoille> Everett: I've seen it break system more than it helps
[07:39] <Zeroedout> whynot: lol, i attribute it to a lack of interest and seld-esteem, "I want my computer to just work!" "what X is broken, the hell is X? windows didn't have a command line i'm goin back"
[07:40] <Everett> ardchoille: well, I might give it a shout before muddling through a Orcaless install of Intrepid.  Thanks or letting me know that it is a possible option.
[07:40] <ikonia> natalisushka: you've installed the server kernel
[07:41] <redrebel> how do I upgrade my 8.04 ubuntu to 8.10??
[07:41] <ikonia> natalisushka: thats the only reason, I suggest you open synaptic search for the server kernel and remove it
[07:41] <ikonia> !upgrade > redrebel
[07:41] <almark> Paddy_EIRE: Did you get my message way back there?
[07:41] <natalisushka> ikonia, probably when I selected the option LAMP in synaptic ready packages?
[07:41] <redrebel> thanx
[07:41] <ikonia> natalisushka: I don't think lamp is linked to a kernel, so no
[07:42] <natalisushka> ikonia, so when I am using generic (Desktop), server is useless?
[07:42] <sushiX> i am notable to access System > Preferences > Sessions any idea y this could be
[07:42] <ikonia> natalisushka: you can only run one kernel at once
[07:42] <natalisushka> ikonia, I see.
[07:42] <ikonia> natalisushka: if your running the desktop kernel, no other kernel can be run
[07:42] <ikonia> natalisushka: I suggest you remove the server kernel to stop any confusion
[07:42] <natalisushka> ikonia, how do i restore my menu.lst to it's defaults in terms of what is installed of kernels?
[07:42] <sluimers> ikonia, I also have trouble booting from cd-rom and usb-stick
[07:42] <ikonia> sluimers: ?
[07:43] <Zeroedout> sushiX:try  "gnome-session-properties" in the terminal and see what errors it spits out
[07:43] <skaboy> the last question sorry but im new on this ! where can i get a tutorial about ubuntu?
[07:43] <ikonia> skaboy: ubuntu.com
[07:43] <ikonia> skaboy: https://help.ubuntu.com too,
[07:43] <sluimers> ikonia, it doesn't seem to recognize the external cd-rom drive
[07:43] <skaboy> ok im out later and thankyou
[07:43] <ardchoille> skaboy: also https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UserDocumentation
[07:44] <ikonia> sluimers: need to make sure you've got supported hardware, I can't fix unsupported hardware
[07:44] <BigMike> hi all
[07:45] <sushiX> Zeroedout, it says could not connect to the session manager
[07:45] <BigMike> ???? is there a way to deselect all items in the update manager????
[07:46] <shamus> hello
[07:46] <natalisushka> ikonia, how do i restore my menu.lst to it's defaults in terms of what is installed of kernels?
[07:46] <natalisushka> Guys how do i restore my menu.lst to it's defaults in terms of what is installed of kernels?
[07:46] <ikonia> natalisushka: when you remove the server kernel, it will be removed from the menu.lst
[07:47] <natalisushka> ikonia, I have edited my menu.lst before, and so it's reduced to a couple of kernels of what I have. I have a back up, but I need to know in case i lost it, or new kernels were installed so i want to have a menu.lst that detects what is already installed and list them
[07:48] <sluimers> ikonia, What do you mean supported hardware, at least a usb-stick should be recognized in the BIOS shouldn't it?
[07:48] <Zeroedout> sushiX: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-session/+bug/237872 seems to have the same problem
[07:48] <ikonia> natalisushka: when you install or remove a kernel it will update menu.lst for you - you never have to manually edit it
[07:48] <ikonia> sluimers: don't know, depends on your hardware
[07:49] <Zeroedout> sushiX: one solution was to delete the ~/.kde diretory, but I cna't figure out why that would work. Try it anyway, other wise kill X ctrl alt bkspc and see if it still happens
[07:52] <Platypus-Man> took about 6 months for my first Ubuntu error to appear on the screen (Fork failed), but just bashed the keyboard and tried to install the updates two more times, and then it worked. :D
[07:52] <Platypus-Man> c ya in another 6 months when the next error appears
[07:53] <natalisushka> ikonia, in my menu.lst I have 2.6.27-7-generic, while in synaptic I see that I have 2.6.27-8-generic and 2.6.27-10-generic! If 10 is installed, then why isn't it in menu.lst? And that is my need, in such case, how do I make menu.lst have the default list of all installed kernels? (like doing it manually by some command)
[07:53] <ikonia> natalisushka 2.6.27-9 is current
[07:54] <rice_> hi
[07:54] <ikonia> natalisushka there is only 2.6.27-7 and 2.6.27-9-generic in the repos, you should ignore the server kernels
[07:54] <ikonia> natalisushka: as I said I suggest you remove them
[07:55] <ikonia> natalisushka: it also sounds like you may have the "proposed" repository enabled, I suggest you disalbe that also
[07:55] <ikonia> natalisushka: (if you do have it enabled)
[07:56] <ardchoille> I don't see 2.6.27-10-generic in the Intrepid repos
[07:56] <ikonia> ardchoille: it's not there
[07:56] <natalisushka> ikonia, I can see it it's right there in my synaptic, 2.6.27-10-generic from the main repos
[07:56] <rice_> Is there any official solution for to agressive disk parking on laptops?
[07:56] <actionfigure> Zeroedout, didnt work but thanks for your help again :)
[07:57] <ikonia> natalisushka: your mistaken, or your not using ubuntu as 2.6.27-19 is not in the main repo as a generic kernel
[07:57] <ardchoille> ikonia: could it be that natalisushka has mixed Intrepid and Jaunty repos in the sources.list?
[07:57] <Zeroedout> actionfigure: same error as before?
[07:57] <ikonia> ardchoille: I was just yping that
[07:57] <ardchoille> ikonia: :)
[07:57] <actionfigure> Zeroedout, no..just blank screen :)
[07:57] <sluimers> ikonia, thanks for your help, I think I fixed it :)
[07:57] <natalisushka> ikonia, how can i send you a screenshot?
[07:57] <ikonia> natalisushka: you are either using the proposed repos, or the jauny repos, could you please pastebin your /etc/apt/source.list file
[07:57] <ikonia> !pastebin | natalisushka
[07:57] <Zeroedout> actionfigure: and nothing in xorg log or dmesg about i810 not loading?
[07:57] <dkT> I can't find my audio cd from audacious in 8.10... Any suggestions?
[07:58] <actionfigure> zErOaCid, cant check it if its wont let me get to termainl at all
[07:58] <ikonia> sluimers: I didn't do anything, ou sorted yourself out
[07:58] <nme> anyone knows how to get rid of it? -> CRON[9416]: Sigfile not found
[07:59] <Zeroedout> actionfigure: ctrl alt F1 will drop you to a terminal
[07:59] <actionfigure> Zeroedout, yeah but the screen is black...cant do anything
[08:00] <natalisushka> ikonia, you're right, I have intrepid-proposed
[08:00] <ikonia> natalisushka: I suggest you disable that
[08:00] <natalisushka> ikonia, why?
[08:00] <Zeroedout> actionfigure: that's very strange, antime i've ever had an error in linux i was always able to do that......... lol, good luck
[08:00] <ikonia> natalisushka: because proposed updates are not stable
[08:00] <ikonia> natalisushka: and you have no need of unstable "proposed" updates
[08:00] <natalisushka> ikonia, i see.
[08:00] <actionfigure> Zeroedout, thanks....just an old system and i usually dont use ubuntu
[08:01] <ardchoille> natalisushka: and the kernel is one thing you do *not* want to break
[08:01] <rice_> Is there any official solution for to agressive disk parking on laptops?
[08:01] <natalisushka> ikonia, ok, anyway, I can't see that I have 9 installed, I must do that manually?
[08:01] <ikonia> rice_: check the bug report - at the moment I don't think so
[08:01] <ardchoille> natalisushka: uname -r
[08:02] <Zeroedout> can't rice just use hdparm and tweak it to his liking?
[08:02] <ikonia> natalisushka: I suggest you remove the others first, fall back to -7, then reboot - once you re-open synaptic you'll find it refreshes the correct data without the proposed update
[08:02] <ikonia> natalisushka: better to clean up befo going forward
[08:02] <ikonia> before
[08:03] <rice_> Zeroedout: hdparm -B 254 /dev/sda stops disk parking but rise temperature of disk (to much).
[08:04] <natalisushka> ardchoille, 2.6.27-7-generic
[08:04] <ikonia> natalisushka: great, your running a sensible version
[08:04] <z987k> what does the ubuntu-standard package do for me?
[08:05] <ardchoille> natalisushka: that's a good one
[08:05] <ikonia> natalisushka: open synaptic and remove (with puprhge) the other kernels
[08:05] <drkn00ck3rz> Do we have something like icon manager for setting the size of various icons and their appearance on ubuntu platform ?
[08:05] <natalisushka> ardchoille, ikonia should I install 9?
[08:05] <ikonia> natalisushka: no - you should remove the others first as I'ave said 3 times
[08:06] <ardchoille> natalisushka: follow what ikonia says, he knows his stuff
[08:06] <natalisushka> ikonia, Ok :) I understood, I meant, after I remove the rest
[08:06] <ikonia> natalisushka: I suggest you reboot then, once youve rebooted synaptic will offer you the updates available to you
[08:06] <ikonia> if 9 is one of them - take it
[08:06] <ikonia> natalisushka: if 9 is not then you have other problems, that the proposed repos have caused that may stop 9 being installed