[00:00] <Pixeltime> Channel Poll: What is your current window manager ?
[00:00] <joni_> bachiir.. if I edit this file and re-pastebin it. would you be comfortable reverting to a back up file in the event x did not start?
[00:00] <Bachiir> Yes
[00:00] <Pelo> anyone else getting a "firefox is not responding" when ever they turn FF off ?
[00:00] <frojnd> Does anyone here uses pure-ftpd ? I've checked network and from network isn't anything wrong. Problem is one or more files of config dir. When I try to login from another computer that's what I get: http://pastebin.com/m219cc861 Anyone who uses pure-ftpd welcome and don't feel afraid to reply my q. :) Thanx in advance
[00:00] <joni_> bachiir... i will try to clean up a little... give me a few moments
[00:01] <wild_oscar> were there any changes in samba from gutsy to hardy - my samba doesn't start
[00:01] <Slart> unavailable: well.. apparently the terminal isn't much faster.. 17 MB/s
[00:01] <jessica_> what software connects to ipods on linux
[00:01] <Slart> !ipod | jessica_
[00:01] <jessica_> thanks
[00:01] <JasonWoof> how do I get a list of packages that I've installed? (preferably excluding the auto-installed ones)
[00:01] <gmenelau> i tried to installed the advance desktop effects but all i get is W: Failed to fetch... any one ?
[00:02] <Pelo> wild_oscar,  I recall several ppl asking more or less the same in the first week after the release , so assume it's not just you,   try reinstalling from synaptic and redoing your settings
[00:02] <Pelo> JasonWoof, you might get them from the /var/log/apt/dpkg log
[00:02] <soundray> Bachiir: is this a laptop?
[00:03] <Pelo> gmenelau, might be an issue with the repositories server ,  try sudo apt-get update first
[00:03] <Bachiir> Soundray: Yes, an Acer TravelMate 8204.
[00:03] <will00> is there a relatively easy way to set up lirc?
[00:03] <Pelo> will00, sudo apt-get install lirc ?
[00:03] <JasonWoof> Pelo: only thing I've got it /var/log/apt is term.log (and it's rotated old logs)
[00:04] <Pelo> JasonWoof,  look for dkpg log in the var/log folder then
[00:04] <wild_oscar> Pelo: I'm trying. i've purged, dpkg-reconfigured, removed and installed...
[00:04] <soundray> will00: no, lirc is a pain to set up (the definition of 'pain' being that you will have to read the documentation)
[00:04] <wild_oscar> in both a dekstop and server editions...without any luck
[00:04] <gmenelau> Pelo i tried this but nothing
[00:04] <Pelo> wild_oscar, try starting it from the comand line with sudo
[00:04] <frojnd> Anyone ?
[00:04] <randal> how do i manuly install these pacckages libcairo2 and librsvg2-2
[00:05] <soundray> Bachiir: have you tried disabling fglrx and using the open-source radeon driver?
[00:05] <randal> how do i manuly install these packages libcairo2 and librsvg2-2
[00:05] <Pelo> gmenelau,   man getselection ,  I think that,s the command you want but you'll get all the packages installed
[00:05] <Shpook> I have a 2.5" hdd that I am trying to access via an IDE to USB adapter. This drive crashed in my wife's computer, and I need to extract some data. It's a NTFS drive, and the drive is picked up with lsusb(at least the cable is), but I get nothing with fdisk -l. Is there anyway to force my way into the drive? Or is there no way around it if the drive won't initialize itself?
[00:05] <Bachiir> soundray: no, I haven't tried that.
[00:05] <Pelo> randal, sudo apt-get install ppackage1 package2
[00:05] <JasonWoof> Pelo: ok, found it, I want to know about everything that is currently installed, not what changed recently.
[00:05] <gmenelau> Pelo still pops more Failed to fetch
[00:05] <joni_> bachiir... still working
[00:05] <randal> thz
[00:06] <Bachiir> joni: thanks! I'm still here.
[00:06] <gmenelau> Pelo i write only man getselection ?
[00:06] <Pelo> Shpook,   ,  first open a terminal type blkid to get a list of available partitions,   figure out which one is the one for your wife'S hdd,    you need the /dev/*** addy ,
[00:06] <Pelo> gmenelau, that will get you the manual page for the getselection command
[00:07] <gmenelau> Pelo i see ok thanks
[00:07] <Pelo> gmenelau, sorry wrong command ,  but it is similar to that , maybe it's an option of apt ,  try man apt and check in there
[00:08] <soundray> Bachiir: I would keep this option in mind as a fallback. The way I understand your Xorg.0.log, it's a quirky card that the fglrx driver isn't managing to get the best performance from. OS Radeon is a bit more conservative and reliable in my experience (although you may not get the same effects).
[00:08] <Pelo> Shpook, got the /dev/ addy of the partition ?
[00:08] <Shpook> Pelo: There is no allocation for the drive in /dev/, just sda which is my hdd.
[00:08] <Pelo> Shpook, install gparted and see if you can see the drive with that
[00:08] <Bachiir> Soundray: Thanks for your input. I will keep OS Radeon in mind if I cannot get fglrx working.
[00:09] <Shpook> Pelo: I never thought of that. Be back in a min :-D
[00:09] <Pelo> Shpook, you do realise that I don'T want you to browse your way to /dev right ? this has nothing to do with the folders yet
[00:09] <Shpook> Pelo: I know, I was checking with fdisk -l
[00:09] <Pelo> Shpook, hardware info might also have some details on this
[00:09] <mattg> so many registered
[00:10] <soundray> Shpook: I'm afraid you're flogging a dead horse. Erm, hard disk.
[00:10] <snappo> hi
[00:10] <joni_> bachiir... http://www.debian.pastebin.com/m21386639 but make a back up of your original file something like xorg.conf.old or backup and i assume you know how to make the change from terminal if x doesnt start
[00:10] <Pelo> soundray, flogging dead horse it a time honored tradition,  don'T knock it
[00:11] <Bachiir> Joni: yep yep, thanks a million. I will attempt to restart X with your specifications and (hopefully) will get back to you momentarily with the results.
[00:11] <soundray> Pelo: the followers of this tradition don't win many prizes, mind.
[00:11] <joshual> hey folks suddenly when i start up gnome nm-applet is asking for su password
[00:11] <Shpook> soundray: I'm hoping not! I know that the armature will run the seek test and come to rest when the drive is powered up, but I'm still nervous about it being dead
[00:11] <joshual> or sudo in this case (ubuntu)
[00:11] <joni_> bachiir... ok.. good luck
[00:11] <SnakeArt> Hi! What does it mean "unable to resolve host <hostname>" when I type sudo <command> ?
[00:11] <matg> anyone know of something like Coldfusion, but free? I want to be able to run my java class's..
[00:11] <Shpook> Shpook: In which case, it looks like I'm spending $400 on data recovery
[00:12] <Paolo_Riccardo> How can i recover my grub after i install Windows?
[00:12] <soundray> !hostname | SnakeArt
[00:12] <Shpook> oops, I didn't meant to address myself
[00:12] <soundray> !grub | Paolo_Riccardo
[00:12] <soundray> Shpook: $400 -- is that how cheap it is these days?
[00:12] <Xpistos> Can anyone help me figure out why gpodder won't open, or stay open all of a sudden?
[00:12] <joni_> its weird how many people come in here with messed up xorg.conf files... isnt there somthing ubuntu can do to keep this file in order?
[00:13] <Pelo> gmenelau, I found the command I was taking about  here > you can duplicate your packages setup by using
[00:13] <Pelo>  dpkg --get-selections > mypackages
[00:13] <Pelo> on the laptop, copying that file to the desktop (after a base install) and doing
[00:13] <Pelo> dpkg --set-selections < mypackages && apt-get dselect-upgrade
[00:13] <FloodBot3> Pelo: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:13] <matg> anyone know of something like Coldfusion, but free? I would like to run my Java class's on my websites...
[00:13] <danbhfive> Pelo: there is also a !clone ubottu factoid
[00:13] <Shpook> soundray: For the extreme basic, if I get lucky and they just remove the platter and extract the data, and the platter has no scratches
[00:14] <soundray> joni_: I find that weird, too. Haven't got my head around the gutsy-to-hardy changes, either.
[00:14] <grzyb> well no one would share with his /bin directory ? ehh ;\
[00:14] <gmenelau> Pelo how do i do that ?
[00:14] <Shpook> Pelo: GParted is stuck scanning for hardware, and now fdisk -l also hangs.
[00:14] <soundray> grzyb: use the one from the live CD
[00:14] <SnakeArt> soundray: What should I type in /etc/hosts to setup hostname. I have <IP_ADDRESS> localhost
[00:15] <Shpook> Seems like I'm all out of options now. :-/
[00:15] <Pelo> gmenelau, the instructions were listed right after my original line,   read up,  it's all command line stuff
[00:15] <Pelo> Shpook, gparted takes a while now,  give it a few minutes, It'S been doing that since feisty
[00:15] <mysterioso> can windows XP share a certain type of filesystem with ubuntu?  like FAT or NTFS?
[00:15] <grzyb> soundray, I have no livecd, I just simply want someone to tar and upload few files...
[00:15] <danbhfive> SnakeArt: what is the result of the command `hostname`?
[00:15] <joni_> bachiir welcome back
[00:16]  * SeaPhor thinks floodbot is gonna spank Pelo if he has to post that again, lol
[00:16] <Cubic> mysterioso, yes
[00:16] <joni_> bachiir the results?
[00:16] <unavailable> fat and ntfs are both read/write in ubuntu 8.04 mysterioso
[00:16] <aegzorz> grzyb: yes, linux can read both FAT and NTFS
[00:16] <gmenelau> Pelo it say install to all
[00:16] <soundray> SnakeArt: there should be an extra line similar to '<IP_ADDRESS> othello', featuring your real IP address and hostname
[00:16] <Pelo> mysterioso, ubuntu can read/write ntfs ,  but I don'T trust it ,  fat32 without any issues
[00:16] <Bachiir> Joni: Your cleaned up xorg.conf worked fine. My backup (zerg.conf) was unnecessary; however, the same graphical issues and quirks are present.
[00:16] <joshual> hey folks suddenly when i start up gnome nm-applet is asking for su password
[00:16] <Pelo> Shpook, you can duplicate your packages setup by using
[00:16] <Pelo>  dpkg --get-selections > mypackages
[00:16] <Pelo> on the laptop, copying that file to the desktop (after a base install) and doing
[00:16] <Pelo> dpkg --set-selections < mypackages && apt-get dselect-upgrade
[00:16] <FloodBot3> Pelo: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:17] <joni_> Bachiir... describe the issues
[00:17] <soundray> !clone > Pelo
[00:17] <gmenelau> Pelo or i make something wrong coz i am new i dont know much in linux
[00:17] <SnakeArt> danbhfive: it's ok. It returns with my hostname, but when I type sudo <anything> I've recieved that error
[00:17] <_derspankster> have an odd but non-critical problem. My real name appeared in my top panel and now it's gone. Why?
[00:18] <luigi_> !it
[00:18] <Pelo> gmenelau, that command is dpkg --get-selection > selection ,   it will put a file in your /home folder with the name selection , that file will contain a list of all the packages installed on your computer
[00:18] <kexp903> hi I just selected to keep my old menu.lst and I can't select the new linux kernel, what should I do?
[00:18] <mysterioso> I am installing Windows XP right now, and was wondering if I should create 2 partitions right now, or wait till I install gutsy.
[00:18] <soundray> _derspankster: right-click the top panel and add the User Switcher applet
[00:18] <danbhfive> SnakeArt: ok, so in your /etc/hosts file, you need to have a line that is: <IP_ADDRESS> "whatever was returned by `hostname`"
[00:18] <kexp903> in grub
[00:18] <Pelo> mysterioso, make two partitons now
[00:18] <Pelo> later folks
[00:18] <mysterioso> pelo, one NTFS (for windows) and one FAT?
[00:18] <soundray> mysterioso: make one partition, leave space for Ubuntu unpartitioned.
[00:19] <Shpook> Pelo: Okay, GParted didn't pick up the hdd, but fdisk has recognized it as sdc. I just try to force mount it, and its taking a long time, but hopefully it works.
[00:19] <_derspankster> soundray, perfect! thanks
[00:19] <danbhfive> hah! and Pelo is gone!
[00:19] <Bachiir> Nothing huge, but graphical tasks are incredibly slow. For instance, dragging a window across the screen is jerky (perhaps jumping 10-20% of the screenlength at a time,) and buttons which are designed to flash, in openoffice for instance, may take 5 seconds each to change and input is impossible while these changes occur. Based on my fluxbox slit CPU monitor, my CPU is being stressed much more than before my upgrade to hardy. I attribute t
[00:20] <yotsu> what must I do?
[00:20] <soundray> Bachiir: replace line 97 in xorg.conf with Driver "ati"
[00:20] <SnakeArt> Ok. I've solved that. Thank you, guys.
[00:20] <gmenelau> Pelo thanks a lot ....
[00:20] <yotsu> is there a way to get the new kernel back in the grub list?
[00:20] <Bachiir> Soundray: tried this earlier. It wasn't much better.
[00:20] <yotsu> if so how do I edit my grub all over again?
[00:20] <gmenelau> have a nice day or night ..... where you are
[00:20] <danbhfive> yotsu: how did you loose it?
[00:21] <dromer> hmmm, I don't know what happened, but I can't get any output from flash and videos in firefox anymore
[00:21] <soundray> Bachiir: okay, that's the radeon option out of the window
[00:21] <SnakeArt> One more thing. How to install Canon pixma mp210 drivers on 64bit hardy?
[00:21] <yotsu> danbhfive, after the update during the installation a menu popped up and gave me a choice, I chose to keep the local copy
[00:21] <dromer> mpd however can still output over std-out
[00:21] <yotsu> of the menu.lst
[00:21] <joni_> bachiir are you using xgl?
[00:21] <yotsu> which means it is the old copy
[00:21] <Bachiir> soundray: Oh, that's the OS Radeon driver?
[00:21] <dromer> audio-output I mean that is
[00:21] <soundray> Bachiir: have you looked up your laptop on tuxmobil.org or similar? Others must have solved such issues
[00:21] <yotsu> I just need the new one in my grub list
[00:21] <danbhfive> !fixgrub > yotsu or, you can follow the windows recovery option, which just redoes the grub menu for you
[00:21] <yotsu> is there a way to add this?
[00:21] <dromer> alsamixer isn't working anymore either: alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such file or directory
[00:21] <Bachiir> Joni: I used xgl at one point but decided it wasn't worth it.
[00:22] <yotsu> how would I do that?
[00:22] <joni_> I have heard  that alot of people experience similar issue with xgl
[00:22] <danbhfive> yotsu: maybe you could reinstall the kernel image?
[00:22] <Bachiir> Soundray: No, I haven't. I will do so now, though.
[00:22] <joshual> anyone pls?
[00:22] <soundray> Bachiir: yes. Btw, radeon is the name of the driver. I just prepended it with OS for open source, it's not an official name or anything.
[00:22] <yotsu> how could I do that?
[00:22] <joni_> soundray bachiir  from my experience fglrx is still the best driver
[00:22] <james_> hello, are there any wireless ninja's here?
[00:22] <Odd-rationale> yotsu: or "sudo dpkg-reconfigure ..." it
[00:23] <danbhfive> yotsu: try synaptic
[00:23] <Cubic> Bachiir: have you any idea what's your chipset?
[00:23] <mysterioso> Can I install windows XP on the computer I am using right now?  It has gutsy.
[00:23] <soundray> joni_: I know some chipsets where radeon is definitely better -- e.g. 200M (RS480)
[00:23] <SnakeArt> I need help with installation of canon mp210 drivers on 64bit hardy.
[00:23] <Bachiir> Cubic: My graphics card? It's an ati mobility radeon x1600
[00:23] <matg> anyone know of something like Coldfusion, but free? I would like to run my Java class's on my websites...
[00:24] <joni_> soundray... older or newer? I think i read that radeon doesnt support 3d
[00:24] <duck1123> can anyone recommend a good resource if I need to re-install 64-bit ubuntu over the 32-bit version?
[00:24] <james_> how can I make my wi-fi authenticate over LEAP?
[00:24] <Bachiir> Joni: perhaps I'm still using xgl and am not aware of it, or the remnants of the last installation are causing issues. How would I go about resolving this/figuring this out?
[00:24] <duck1123> I need to know what I can keep vs. what has to go
[00:24] <isleshocky78> Slart: It looks like it might be a bios issue with the computer. They've come out with 4 bios updates, but I can't figure out how to install them without windows.
[00:24] <soundray> joni_: it supports 3D in principle, but not on all chipsets
[00:25] <SnakeArt> duck1123: Hi! I don't know any, but sometimes I think about return to 32bit. You may face some driver problems using 64bit.
[00:25] <sennr> how do i install flash?
[00:25] <joni_> and how does one figure out if they are using xserver-xorg or xserver-xgl... perhaps bachiir didnt make a clean switch back?
[00:25] <Slart> isleshocky78: o
[00:25] <deahl> i just installed xubuntu on eeepc 4g, and i want to change the number of desktops from 2 to 4.  i am accustomed to using gnome, so i don't know where to look...
[00:25] <soundray> Bachiir: 'touch ~/.config/xserver-xgl/disable'
[00:25] <danbhfive> sennr: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[00:25] <Slart> isleshocky78:I used freedos to update my bios.. but it was a kludge
[00:25] <mysterioso> Is there another manual for port forwarding, and good settings, for azureus?  I am having a hard time following the wiki page.  me dum
[00:26] <shesek> can someone help me setting up lirc? I'm trying to follow http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-20952.html and I get this: http://pastebin.ca/1038255 at step #8
[00:26] <isleshocky78> I'm following this guide to updating my bios without windows, but the "check to see if it fits" doesn't.  The bios update is too big to fit on a floppy. http://www.linuxinsight.com/how-to-flash-motherboard-bios-from-linux-no-dos-windows-no-floppy-drive.html
[00:26] <duck1123> well, I just got a new 64-bit system, and I want to get as much use out of it as possible
[00:26] <Slart> isleshocky78: put the files on a usb stick.. if your computer supports booting from that
[00:26] <isleshocky78> What do I do when the bios update is bigger than 1.44?  Since it's not going on a floppy anyways, can I make it bigger?
[00:26] <isleshocky78> Slart: Got a help for making a bootable usb?
[00:27] <Bachiir> soundray: No such file or directory
[00:27] <Slart> isleshocky78: check out the freedos website.. there was a guide there
[00:27] <sennr> danbhfive: what repository do i need?
[00:27] <soundray> Bachiir: you're meant to create it with touch
[00:27] <SnakeArt> duck1123: I'm using 64bit Hardy-Heron and previously I've had 64bit gutsy. At the moment I'm trying to install the 32 bit drivers for my canon mp210 printer/scanner. It seems impossible and there is no chance to find 64 bit drivers for this device.
[00:27] <soundray> Bachiir: if the parent directories don't exist, you should mkdir them
[00:28] <joni_> and bachiir.. i see in your xorg.conf modules "dbe" "v4l" "glx" "dri" to load... mine is only "glx" soundray can you shed light on these modules?
[00:28] <soundray> Bachiir: 'mkdir -p ~/.config/xserver-xgl/ ; touch ~/.config/xserver-xgl/disable'
[00:28] <Slart> isleshocky78: well... I'm off to bed.. good night and good luck
[00:28] <soundray> joni_, Bachiir: not really -- except by gut feeling I'd say they make no difference
[00:29] <isleshocky78> Slart: Thanks for the help.
[00:29] <joni_> i'm gonna google for a sec.. brb
[00:29] <Bachiir> okay, the xserver-xgl directory was missing. touch worked this time.
[00:30] <mysterioso> does ubuntu have the equivalent of Windows service packs?
[00:30] <joshual> hey folks suddenly when i start up gnome nm-applet is asking for su password
[00:30] <SnakeArt> duck1123: my problem is only one of many. I can see only one advantage between 32 and 64bit: memory. On 64bit you may use more than 3Gb of ram, so If You're not a gfx or vfx-freak I will not recommend migration to 64bit.
[00:30] <shashank> [anyone] can i make a cd for gpart, from the cd/dvd maker that comes with hardy?
[00:31] <f0rmat> ok i reconfigured xserver yet it still failz saying system starting in low graphics and it no longer shows NVIDIA drivers in list :S also when i first started system after update the keyboard was set to US which failed also as all the keys were messed up :S what happened please can anyone tell me i keep asking and it remains unnoticed
[00:31] <Carbonflux> mysterioso, it does not seem that way to me, seems like everything updates on a module level
[00:31] <anaran> james_: hi, have you tried Encryption: WPA Enterprise
[00:31] <joshual> help
[00:32] <soundray> SnakeArt: turboprint.de makes payware drivers for Canon printers. MP210 is not currently listed, but you could ask them to support your printer, with a good chance that they will.
[00:32] <shashank> When i make iso cd, with cd/dvd creator do create from image or from file?
[00:32] <james_> anaran, no because the network is 80211x Open
[00:32] <soundray> SnakeArt: *64bit drivers
[00:32] <danbhfive> joshual: whats the problem?
[00:32] <mysterioso> is there any "packages" out there, with non-free software, or open source software, drivers, codecs and stuff?
[00:32] <joshual> danbhfive: suddenly when i start up gnome nm-applet is asking for su password
[00:32] <danbhfive> joshual: so, cant you enter your password?
[00:33] <shashank> ANYONE When i make iso cd, with cd/dvd creator do i create from image or from file?
[00:33] <sudobash> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=802006&page=1
[00:33] <danbhfive> mysterioso: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras           but keep in mind, that this package breaks java
[00:33] <joshual> danbhfive: yes but it asks for it everytime i start up, when it never has before... its annoying to say the least
[00:33] <SnakeArt> soundray: Thanx,pal. I will ask there, but if there's any way to install 32 bit drivers on 64bit machine, I want to try it. I need that printer in my work, so it's very important for me
[00:33] <joni_> bachiir.. I cannot say with any reason for saying it.. but I would atleast try removing modules "dbe" "dri" from xorg.conf.. "v4l" shouldnt have any negative effects... the other two i am not sure.. i find evidence that "dri" is for AGP cards.... Soundray.. can a PCI card use AGP bus?
[00:34] <soundray> mysterioso: no. Security updates are provided on an ongoing basis. Occasionally there will be 'point releases' of updates, which perhaps are roughly equivalent to service packs.
[00:34] <danbhfive> joshual: how about a clean install?
[00:34] <dromer> aarg, I don't understand why alsamixer doesn't work anymore
[00:34] <joshual> danbhfive: whoa thats a bit drastic, this is a pretty fresh install
[00:35] <dromer> I can't lay ony sound except for mpd
[00:35] <dromer> play*
[00:35] <mysterioso> danbhfive java stops working?
[00:35] <danbhfive> joshual: its not that drastic if you have a separate /home partition.  Its actually simple
[00:35] <soundray> joni_: I agree with your suggestion. I think PCI and AGP are completely separate entities.
[00:35] <anaran> james_: dunno, I just got my Kubuntu 8.04 test install to connect to my WPA access point
[00:35] <joshual> danbhfive: i know but i have settings and updates etc.
[00:35] <danbhfive> joshual: ... in that case of separate /home.  But yes, its tough if you dont
[00:35] <joni_> bachiir... are you still with us?
[00:36] <joshual> danbhfive: reinstalling is a last resort for serious issues
[00:36] <Bachiir> Yes, I'm just googling and snooping around myself
[00:36] <james_> anaran, were you asking me for help or trying to help me?
[00:36] <Bachiir> brb
[00:36] <shashank> ANYONE When i make iso cd, with cd/dvd creator do i create from image or create from file?
[00:36] <joni_> Bachiir... i mean whats the worst that can happen? revert to back up.
[00:37] <Vileam> уууууу
[00:37] <Vileam> =)
[00:37] <danbhfive> joshual: not for me.  Its a great resort for pesky, oddly appearing issues.  I can pretty much reinstall, and be up and running in 30 minutes, which can be less time that trying to figure out the issue
[00:37] <Pici> shashank: create from image
[00:37] <shashank> Thank You
[00:37] <anaran> james_: I thought of helping in case you were not aware of chosing the correct encryption type
[00:37] <soundray> danbhfive: there's a fairly straightforward procedure... Resize the old root, create a new root partition, mount the old root as /home and 'mv /home/home/* /home'
[00:37] <joshual> each to his own, its well known that that is a last resort
[00:38] <soundray> joshual: no, it isn't. danbhfive gave you good advice.
[00:38] <james_> anran, I'm pretty sure that if Windows needs "open" encryption, then so does ubuntu
[00:38] <danbhfive> joshual: see soundray 's message
[00:38] <james_> anaran even
[00:38] <joshual> uh yes it is
[00:38] <Ademan> is there anything out there that helps windows users get their feet wet with ubuntu in virtualbox?
[00:38] <joshual> ive been running linux for 8 years
[00:38] <Ademan> or vmware too i guess
[00:39] <soundray> joshual: then don't sell your engrained opinion as "well known"
[00:39] <Ademan> does wubi have that sort of thing?
[00:39] <joshual> soundray: chill out
[00:39] <randal> I installed cairo-dock and when ever i log off or restart computer its not there how do i make it stay there
[00:40] <Cubic> Ademan: installing or just trying out?
[00:40] <joni_> cant we all just get along :)
[00:40] <anaran> james_: I need to go, bye
[00:40] <randal> I installed cairo-dock and when ever i log off or restart computer its not there how do i make it stay there
[00:40] <daemon3> I don't have any sound for KDE-4.  Anyone else having that problem?
[00:40] <joni_> randal... try adding it to sessions?
[00:40] <Storrgie> QUESTION: Is there a UI for linux that is in openGL?
[00:40] <randal>  joni_ how
[00:41] <Ademan> Cubic: installing.  i have a friend that wants to start developing GUI apps in python, but pygtk support on windows is godawful
[00:41] <randal> joni_:  how to i add it to sessions
[00:41] <soundray> Storrgie: compiz-fusion
[00:41] <joni_> use whatever command you use to load it... and go to system perference-sessions
[00:41] <Storrgie> soundray: thank you, any good documentation on installing that windowmanager with ubuntu?
[00:42] <soundray> Storrgie: it's well integrated -- 'System-Preferences-Appearance-Desktop Effects'
[00:42] <Bachii1> Joni: removed load "dri". Restarting X.
[00:43] <Storrgie> soundray: I just bought a dell m4300 with a quadra gfx card... I am hoping it does a really nice job with this UI you speak of
[00:43] <soundray> Storrgie: it'll only work once you've enabled 3D acceleration on the driver side.
[00:43] <Storrgie> soundray: so just install normal ubuntu? no Kubuntu or Xubuntu?
[00:43] <soundray> Storrgie: was Ubuntu pre-installed?
[00:44] <shashank> [anyone] I have made G-parted live cd , how do i use it without using my drive?
[00:44] <Storrgie> soundray: no, I have yet to recieve the machine... shipped out today.... I will format it when she arrives
[00:44] <soundray> Storrgie: I'd say ubuntu, but I'm biased
[00:44] <amstella> shashank : what are you trying to do?
[00:44] <Randuni> hi all
[00:44] <Randuni> I have a question, it's not about ubuntu specifically
[00:44] <Cubic> Ademan: I dunno really, Ubuntu/Debian is pretty easy to install (easier than windows). Just add the required python libs (kde and gtk) and he's good to go.
[00:44] <shashank> amstella, parrition my drive to install vista.
[00:44] <Randuni> but I need a free data recovery program so that I can recover files on a cd
[00:44] <Randuni> it would be nice if it's open source..
[00:45] <soundray> Storrgie: KDE is a bit of a moving target at the moment
[00:45] <Randuni> but it's  not absolutely necessary
[00:45] <cn28h> dd ?
[00:45] <Gralco> shashank you need to use you cd drive to use g-parted
[00:45] <Storrgie> soundray: I am running ubuntu server and ubuntu desktop for VM's and really like it... but with VM you dont get graphics acceleration.... so now that I have that capability I would like to take FULL advantage of it
[00:45] <Ademan> Cubic: oh yeah for sure, it's just he's currently on windows, and i'm trying to figure out the best way to get him ubuntu for development :-)
[00:45] <amstella> shashank : you have ubuntu installed right now and you want to partition your drive to install vista.....is that right?
[00:45] <Randuni> I need it for windoZe
[00:45] <shashank> amstella, yes
[00:45] <soundray> Storrgie: I have reasonably well working OpenGL acceleration in VMware fusion...
[00:46] <Storrgie> soundray: really? i never played with getting hardware acceleration on my VM's... dont really need it for the work i am doing... but i want to make the plunge with linux for good. So I bought a machine for it this week
[00:46] <sudobash> what kind or PC?
[00:47] <soundray> Storrgie: congrats. Try to get a refund for your Windows ;)
[00:47] <amstella> shashank : I will assume you do not know how to edit the MBR so I would suggest this.  use gparted on live cd to seperate 3 partitions, fat32(windows), swap (linux swap), ext2 (linux).  Then apply the partitions and restart the computer
[00:47] <Storrgie> dell m4300
[00:47] <Cubic> Ademan: So you would like a website to install the basic programming env?
[00:47] <amstella> from there install vista first and then ubuntu again
[00:47] <Storrgie> soundray: I didnt think of that!
[00:47] <sudobash> is VMware Fusion free?
[00:47] <soundray> sudobash: no :(
[00:47] <sudobash> how much?
[00:47] <jasonlfunk> Hello - I decided I was going to install windows on an extra partition that I had, and before I was able to install windows it decided it would be fun to delete all of my logical partitions. no data was written to the disk so all of my data is still there. What is the eaiseist way to restore my partition table?
[00:47] <amstella> shashank : if you install ubuntu then vista it will screw up the MBR and you won't have grub installed
[00:48] <Ademan> Cubic: no, just an easy way to get ubuntu into a vm on his machine, since he's certainly not ready to switch
[00:48] <sudobash> i bet it is torrented
[00:48] <bazhang> amstella, shashank unless this is a ssd, then ext3 would be a better choice from ext2
[00:48] <soundray> sudobash: I paid $80 (but I think it's come down since then)
[00:48] <sudobash> does it ever crash?
[00:48] <Storrgie> i paid around 1500, but its an outlet PC... so the same device new would be 2300
[00:48] <f0rmat> hi i forgot the name of the person i was just talking to
[00:48] <soundray> sudobash: no
[00:48] <f0rmat> are you here
[00:48] <f0rmat> :)
[00:48] <shashank> amstella, bazhang ok im confused.
[00:48] <sudobash> but it cant do directx can it?
[00:48] <amstella> shashank : easy; setup your partitions, install vista and then ubuntu
[00:48] <mocha> Does anyone here host their own website on their system?
[00:48] <soundray> sudobash: I've had various issues mainly with vmware-tools -- still not running smoothly in hardy, but no crashes
[00:49] <sudobash> i can mocha easily
[00:49] <sudobash> openbsd/linux/windows
[00:49] <Subway> Hi. I am keep getting an "invalid pointer" error when I start Gaim (through the terminal). What might cause this?
[00:49] <sudobash> and osx
[00:49] <soundray> sudobash: what's directx? Maybe ask in #vmware
[00:49] <snoopcatxl> I started downloading Ubuntu 8 but it got to 71% downloaded then stopped...ANy help
[00:49] <Cubic> Ademan: Oh, just a vm, im way way off topic then :D
[00:49] <sudobash> DirectX vs OpenGL?
[00:49] <cn28h> Subway, sounds like debugging output.. try using pidgin (gaim is now outdated)
[00:49] <PastorBones> how do I disable a cronjob?
[00:49] <amstella> snoopcatxl : use the torrent so you can resume
[00:49] <Subway> snoopcatxl: what were you using to download it?
[00:49] <mocha> sudobash: i have Apache listening on port 80, DNS forwarding pointing to this system's internal IP for port 80, and all I'm presented with is my router login page, what am I missing?
[00:49] <sudobash> yeah torrent
[00:49] <snoopcatxl> =/
[00:49] <joni_> bachiil?
[00:50] <Subway> cn28h: Okay, thanks
[00:50] <rkvirani> So I had to take linux off my hp mininote because the battery wouldnt charge
[00:50] <snoopcatxl> I dunno, I jsut clicked down load, then saved it and waited
[00:50] <snoopcatxl> just*
[00:50] <rkvirani> it said it had 35 hours to go
[00:50] <Lachlan> Hi guys. I'm trying to get my system to use the graphics hardware properly, and it doesn't seem to work. In `glxinfo` is says I'm not using direct rendering. I've set what I believe to be the proper xorg.conf. Does anybody have any insights for me?
[00:50] <sudobash> port forwarding
[00:50] <cn28h> Subway, `a while back gaim was renamed to pidgin btw
[00:50] <sudobash> port forward 80 to ubuntu STATIC IP
[00:50] <amstella> snoopcatxl : are you on ubuntu right nwo?
[00:50] <Ademan> Cubic: :-p, well the ULTIMATE goal is just to get him programming using pygtk, but pygtk seems to be horribly broken, or at least a pain on windows (considering how many dependencies gtk+ has, that kind of stuff without a package manager is nothing short of hellish)
[00:50] <sudobash> and turn off remote management on your router
[00:50] <Subway> cn28h: Yeah. I'm using an older Ubuntu (Dapper) and just wanted to see if Gaim would still work.
[00:50] <Subway> before going to Pidgin
[00:50] <snoopcatxl> yeah, I'm on Ubuntu 7
[00:51] <sudobash> or you can give me your IP address and i will turn it off for you :)
[00:51] <cn28h> Subway, well, does it print the error and fail, or still work?
[00:51] <amstella> 7.10 or 7.4
[00:51] <joni_> bachiil.. whats the results?
[00:51] <Subway> cn28h: It prints the error in the terimanl and gaim crashes after showing the buddy list
[00:51] <snoopcatxl> uhh 7.10
[00:51] <cn28h> Subway, likely to fix it you would have to modify the program source then
[00:51] <rkvirani> Anyone know alot about ACPI issues on laptops?
[00:51] <djzn> is there any application that can do what "Apollo Audio DVD Creator" for Windows can?
[00:51] <Subway> cn28h: Which I  have no experience in :(
[00:52] <stu> can anyone tell me how to change the startup order of applications that are started in sessions ??
[00:52] <amstella> i would installed transmission (sudo apt-get install transmission), then load up a torrent from the ubuntu website and let it go, that way you are not taking up bandwidth on the server and sharing with others at the same time
[00:52] <amstella> snoopcatxl ; that was to you sorry
[00:52]  * cerebrate_ agrees with amstella
[00:52] <snoopcatxl> how do i load a torrent?
[00:52] <cn28h> Subway, pointer is a type of variable that references a memory location in C and C++.  Bad pointer likely means it's pointing to something invalid, which explains your crash
[00:52] <sudobash> i like utorrent in wine
[00:52] <Lachlan> Can anyone tell me how I can find out why my system is not using my graphics hardware?
[00:52] <Jack_Sparrow> !info rtorrent
[00:52] <stu> Lachlan, state your graphics hardware
[00:53] <stu> kinda obvious no?
[00:53] <Lachlan> Intel Integrated, i810 chipset I believe, 945G
[00:53] <Subway> cn28h: Yeah but I dont know C or C++...or any other programming languages.. so I can't actually fix it
[00:53] <cn28h> Subway, yeah.. time to get pidgin then ;P
[00:53] <amstella> snoop : check out isohunt and just type in ubuntu and look for the one with the most seeders
[00:53] <soundray> Lachlan: how did you determine that it's not using it?
[00:53] <stu> Lachlan, ok have you searched syanptics for i810 or similar?
[00:53] <amstella> snoop : easiest and fastest way to do it
[00:53] <pain> Soory, for the question, but can someone help me with the OS install?
[00:53] <shashank> amstella, bazhang so how do i partition the drive with gparted. Do i just put the cd into the drive and then i can start the partitioner?
[00:53] <Cubic> Ademan:  Yes, you need a package manager. :P
[00:54] <Lachlan> soundray: It says it's not using direct rendering in glxinfo.
[00:54] <Subway> cn28h: Alrighty then. =D
[00:54] <Lachlan> stu: I have xserver-video-intel installed, which supposedly has the i810 driver.
[00:54] <Subway> i'll be off -logging out-
[00:54] <PastorBones> virtualmin is killing my server
[00:54] <stu> pain, state the issue
[00:54] <pain> Sorry, for the question, but can someone help me with the OS install?
[00:54] <amstella>  shashank : just put the live cd in the drive and restart your computer and let the cdrom boot
[00:55] <shashank> ok ty ;P
[00:55] <soundray> pain: you need to say what the problem is
[00:55] <pain> Oh
[00:55] <Cubic> Ademan: and pygtk is a mess in linux as it is on windows. it's the same thing
[00:55] <snoopcatxl> what do i do now i put that in terminal?
[00:55] <pain> I get to the boot menu, for Ubuntu or Xp and I choose Ubuntu and it takes me to the shell menu.
[00:55] <stu> Lachlan, looks like you need aiglx http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=253856
[00:55] <amstella> shashank : make sure you setup your partitions correctly and just install vista first then ubuntu, easy man don't worry
[00:56] <Lachlan> stu: Thanks I'll give it a try.
[00:56] <soundray> pain: you get a busybox shell?
[00:56] <stu> can anyone tell me how to change the startup order of applications that are started in sessions ??
[00:56] <pain> Yes
[00:56] <randal> How do i get rid of advant-manager
[00:56] <soundray> pain: does it tell you why?
[00:56] <stu> randal, did you install from source?
[00:56] <Ademan> Cubic: ? sudo apt-get install python-gtk2
[00:56] <pain> soundray: no
[00:56] <Ademan> in fact it's generally already installed since most of ubuntu's nice helper programs are written in using pygtk
[00:56] <shashank> amstella, should i partition the drive then format both drivbe and instal vista in one of the drives then instal ubuntu in the other?
[00:57] <randal> stu: idk i want to uninstall it becaus ei installed cairo-dock
[00:57] <amstella> you got it
[00:57] <randal> How do i get rid of advant-manager
[00:57] <stu> randal, fine.. how did you install it? source or package?
[00:57] <randal> probly source
[00:57] <soundray> pain: which version of Ubuntu?
[00:57] <stu> randal, in other words did you download a .tar.gz extract it, ./configure etc?
[00:57] <james_> why won't my wi-fi connect using LEAP?
[00:57] <shashank> amstella, "you got it" was to me?
[00:57] <randal> stu: i think so?
[00:57] <pain> soundray: newest 8.04 (I think)
[00:58] <Bachii1> Sorry to keep the parties involved waiting, but everything works great! Thanks a million!
[00:58] <stu> randal, do you still have the extracted folder?
[00:58] <cerebrate_> james_: what is your wireless card?
[00:58] <randal> um
[00:58] <amstella> shashank : yeah sorry
[00:58] <james_> cerebrate, intel 4965agn
[00:58] <Cubic> Ademan: yes, its easy to install, i just meant the api is still the same ...
[00:58] <poptones> sorry to butt in, can i ask a question about submitting code here? no one in other rooms ever reponds
[00:58] <amstella> shashank : thats exactly what you will want to do in order to enable dual boot
[00:58] <randal> stu: what i did i wrote a code in a terminal and it installed it
[00:58] <amstella> shashank : it will give you the least amount of problems
[00:58] <soundray> pain: which installation method did you use -- booted the installer from CD, or installed from within Windows?
[00:58] <randal> stu: i dont have a tar
[00:58] <stu> randal, where are the instructions you followed?
[00:59] <cerebrate_> james_: not sure, but I know that my intel card is unable to connect to WPA enterprise/LEAP.  however, I have a different intel wireless card.
[00:59] <randal> stu: i talked to people on here and they gave me a sode
[00:59] <pain> soundray: Install from inside windows.
[00:59] <randal> code
[00:59] <stu> randal, did you type apt-get install blahblah ?
[00:59] <randal> stu yes
[00:59] <Ademan> Cubic: oh, i love the api, best way to create GUIs with any language on any platform IMHO
[00:59] <stu> randal, then type apt-get remove blahblah to remove it
[00:59] <james_> cerebrate, do you know why your's in unable to connect?
[00:59] <randal> ill try 1 sec
[00:59] <shashank> amstella, how do i format the lubuntu partition, after i partitioned the drive tho?
[00:59] <Cubic> Ademan: I agree
[01:00] <stu> do I need to tell you to replace blahblah with the correct package name randal ?
[01:00] <cerebrate_> james_: It's something with the drivers in 8.04.  It used to work in 7.10.
[01:00] <bazhang> shashank, choose ext3 not ext2 for the fs for ubuntu (apart from swap)
[01:00] <stu> someone type "stu" please i'm having highlight issues
[01:00] <james_> cerebrate, do you know if support was dropped or if it's incompatable?
[01:00] <forzer> hi
[01:01] <pain> Hello
[01:01] <sergio_> irc://irc.mediairc.net/extremo
[01:01] <amstella> shashank : after you finish installing windows, boot into your live cd again and when you go to install it just click format in the installer
[01:01] <randal> stu: i dont know the code i used to install it?
[01:01] <cerebrate_> james_: no, as far as I can tell, it's a bug, not that support was dropped.  It mainly had to do with switching from a proprietary driver to a new open source driver from intel.
[01:01] <james_> cerebrate, part of me wants to try it with the wired extensions
[01:01] <stu> randal, type dpkg --list | grep avant
[01:01] <amstella> shashank : ubuntu has made it extremely user friendly
[01:01] <stu> paste the output (one line)
[01:02] <soundray> pain: aka wubi -- this is a bit experimental still. Your hardware seems to have problems with wubi. The best advice I can give you is to install Ubuntu on a dedicated partition after booting from the Desktop CD.
[01:02] <shashank> bazhang, amstella, fat32 for vista, and what for linux buntu?
[01:02] <stu> shashank, ext3
[01:02] <stu> shashank, you need 3 partitions by the way
[01:02] <randal> stu: randal@Randal-desktop:~$ dpkg --list | grep avant
[01:02] <randal> ii  avant-window-navigator                     0.2.1-0ubuntu2                                     A MacOS X like panel for GNOME
[01:02] <randal> ii  awn-manager                                0.2.1-0ubuntu2                                     A manager for the preferences of avant-windo
[01:02] <randal> ii  libawn0                                    0.2.1-0ubuntu2                                     library for avant-window-navigator
[01:02] <FloodBot3> randal: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:02] <randal> randal@Randal-desktop:~$ apt-get remove avant-window-navigator
[01:02] <randal> E: Could not open lock file /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (13 Permission denied)
[01:02] <bazhang> shashank, ext3; the installer will do it for you
[01:02] <stu> randal, one line ffs
[01:02] <cerebrate_> randal: sudo
[01:02] <james_> cerebrate, would you show me a sample config file that worked for you?
[01:02] <bazhang> randal put that to paste.ubuntu.com not here
[01:03] <cerebrate_> james_: I don't have a working config file.  It still has the problem.  One second while I find the bug report.
[01:03] <stu> randal, type sudo apt-get remove avant-window-navigator
[01:03] <amstella> shashank : check out this - http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=801404
[01:03] <amstella> its the beginners thread and will explain a lot
[01:03] <pain> soundray: my computer is really old, I'm suprised it will even install Ubuntu. But I will try this, May I fancy a PM?
[01:03] <stu> shashank, you need three partitions because you need a swap partition
[01:03] <james_> cerebrate, do you have your config file from using 7.10?
[01:03] <Subway> test
[01:03] <stu> shashank, create a third partition the same size as the amount of RAM you have
[01:03] <randal> stu: i uninstalled it but its still there do i have to log out for it to go away
[01:03] <cerebrate_> james_: it's not a config file.  It's the driver itself.  I'm not sure how to use the older driver.
[01:04] <amstella> shashank : no you only need about 1gb of swap
[01:04] <cerebrate_> james_: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager/+bug/217653
[01:04] <stu> randal, type sudo killall avant-window-navigator
[01:04] <bounty> Hi - What command Do I run in terminal to see a list of hardware components - Memory, Video, etc. ? ? ?
[01:04] <stu> randal, or yes... logout
[01:04] <randal> stu: thank you
[01:04] <stu> randal, or right click close or something... must be a way to close it
[01:04] <amstella> and that may be over kill
[01:04] <[omni]> hi, are there any known issues with 2.6.24-18-generic?
[01:04] <Subway> I am going to put Dapper on my iMac G3 and it's supported til 2009. Is this a good decision? I tried putting the 7.10 ppc version and then I got the terminal. Clicked enter.. booted.. then white screen with text like normal.. then loading and then my iMac G3 turned off, which is why I went to an older version.. which I should've just asked in here instead. Is Dapper a good option for me though?
[01:04] <stu> randal, no probs
[01:05] <james_> cerebrate, I understand that it's a problem with the driver, but perhaps I could mess around with the config file. Besides, I can always load the experimental drivers
[01:05] <randal> stu: how do people know so much where did you learn all this
[01:05] <soundray> pain: no, I'm logging off in a minute. Do ask the channel again, though. I'll get the bot to send you a few helpful messages via pm. Also note that there are good video tutorials on the web, e.g. youtube.
[01:05] <soundray> !install > pain
[01:05] <shashank> stu, i have 250 gb HDD, 120 gb for fat32, 120 for ext3  and then 10 for swap?
[01:05] <soundray> !dualboot > pain
[01:05] <stu> shashank, you have 10GB of RAM ?
[01:05] <amstella> randal : read the forums like crazy and read doc's like crazy
[01:05] <soundray> !faq > pain
[01:05] <cerebrate_> james_: I have no clue what config file it would be.  Nor do I know how to switch the drivers.
[01:05] <stu> randal, various places.. IRC, ubuntu forums are really good
[01:05] <pain> Thank you soundray.
[01:05] <randal> stu NERD lol jk
[01:06] <shashank> stu, o no, i have 2gig i think
[01:06] <[omni]> i'm asking because i just installed 2.6.24-18-generic and get a kernel dump on boot. I suspect that it might have something to do with my drive being encrypted but i'm not entirely sure. I figured I'd ask in here, before I started digging some more.
[01:06] <mohamed_> !slim > mohamed_
[01:06] <amstella> shashank : you only need like 1gb, and that may be over kill
[01:06] <stu> randal, geek actually
[01:06] <soundray> pain: good luck!
[01:06] <james_> cerebrate, But I do
[01:06] <pain> Thanks
[01:06] <stu> shashank, then create a 2GB swap partition
[01:06] <mohamed_> anyone using slim window manager ?
[01:06] <[omni]> stu: wouldn't he need 4GB?
[01:06] <Subway> someone answer my question (scroll up)
[01:06] <james_> cerebrate, are you telling me you connected to LEAP via the Network Manager?
[01:06] <randal> stu: now i need help wwith cario dock i got it installed but to add fetures and thems i got this tar
[01:06] <randal> stu: how do i install it
[01:06] <randal> stu cairo-dock-sources-20080528.tar.bz2
[01:06] <shashank> stu, amstella: what is the partition type for linux called aghain ext3 ?
[01:07] <bazhang> Subway, dapper is fine for that
[01:07] <cerebrate_> james_: no.    I'm just informing you that it might be a bug with the drivers, as I have no clue how to fix the problem.
[01:07] <amstella> shashank : yes ext2 or ext3
[01:07] <[omni]> my understanding is that the linux kernel requires double your memory for swap
[01:07] <stu> [omni], I am not sure what the size is supposed to be... in windows its supposed to RAM + half again, I doubt linux is worse at managing RAM
[01:07] <james_> cerebrate, ok then, thanks for the info.
[01:07] <stu> shashank, swap
[01:07] <bazhang> amstella, ext3 is the recommended ubuntu method
[01:07] <stu> shashank, its in the drop down list
[01:07] <Subway> bazhang: in the future will the newer releases be perfectly fine or will it be sluggish? since i'm using this imac just until i get my computer built but i might just turn back to this imac for backup and/or just for the hell of it :P
[01:07] <amstella> if you have 2gb of ddr ram : you only need 1 gb maybe, you could probably get away with 500mb
[01:07] <[omni]> stu: given the way that the kernel manges memory on linux systems, you *should* have double your RAM
[01:08] <bazhang> Subway, that will be fine for another year or so
[01:08] <shashank> stu, amstella will i still be able to xchat, if i run the os from gparted live?
[01:08] <Subway> bazhang: but will the newer ones work fine?
[01:08] <amstella> the swap is just a reserved ram incase you run out, system processes will use it and then not
[01:08] <stu> [omni], ok then shashank make it 4GB ... I always just use whatever my RAM is never had an issue but I have no idea what the correct size is
[01:08] <selocol> if i want to close a process, such as conky, which is responding perfectly fine, is it safe to use killall conky?
[01:08] <Subway> bazhang: and i think you were the one who told me to get dapper yesterday..
[01:08] <bazhang> Subway, newer ones (like hardy) on that? that is for you to try and see
[01:08] <stu> randal, google for cairo dock ubuntu
[01:08] <BCM43> hi bazhan, i got my xserver to work. i had the latest kernel, but the machine did not know that. thanks
[01:08] <stu> randal, i am positive you will find instructions
[01:08] <yojesus> does anyone use opera browser
[01:09] <shashank> stu, amstella what is the swap file used for?
[01:09] <Subway> bazhang, okay i'll use dapper for now though. thanks.
[01:09] <bazhang> BCM43, nicely done :)
[01:09] <Subway> then*
[01:09] <cerebrate_> shashank: same thing the page file is used for in windows
[01:09] <stu> shashank, when your pc needs more memory and has run out of RAM it starts to use virtual RAM (hard drive space)
[01:09] <bazhang> !swap | shashank
[01:09] <amstella> shashank : its reserved memory
[01:09] <[omni]> amstella: yes, and the way linux uses ram as you file cache (have a look at free(1)'s man page) you can quickly use up your memory as cache. You need the swap space to dump cache should that memory be quickly needed
[01:09] <amstella> shashank : you do not need 4gb of swap, that is crazy
[01:09] <Subway> stu: and swap is awesome
[01:09] <bazhang> shashank, go read that link
[01:09] <[omni]> of course that's only one situation where it's important to have double the memory
[01:09]  * cerebrate_ agrees with amstella.
[01:10] <cerebrate_> I've never had swap larger than 2 gb's
[01:10] <amstella> omni : i agree with you, but he is a first time user and does not need to allocate that much memory
[01:10] <Subway> well i'm logging off. gonna install dapper after it's done downloading on my mom's laptop.. telling her not to close it out and whatnot.
[01:10] <stu> me neither
[01:10] <yojesus> any one has opera broswer because i got a very important question about it
[01:10] <stu> can anyone tell me how to change the startup order of applications that are started in sessions ??
[01:10] <Ademan> why is that guy installing dapper?
[01:10] <stu> lol
[01:10] <Ademan> yojesus: i don't really use it
[01:10] <stu> old skool
[01:10] <SeaPhor> [omni], i have 3gb RAM and 1.5 Gb swap, and i do very well
[01:10] <yojesus> ademan:can you play youtube videos because i cant
[01:11] <Ademan> stu: you know the sessions dialog right? system->preferences->dialog
[01:11] <[omni]> stu: click on the "current session" tab in system>session preferences
[01:11] <libervisco> I have to say Hardy Heron is the most unstable Ubuntu I've used
[01:11] <[omni]> change the "order" number
[01:11] <libervisco> LTS be damned
[01:11] <amstella> libervisco : i agree is awful
[01:11] <PauloZumba> Boa noite pessoal, alguem pode me indicar um softphone decente para sip voip?
[01:11] <Paolo_Riccardo> !grub
[01:11] <stu> ah thanks [omni]
[01:11] <stu> will that change the order it starts in too ?
[01:12] <Ademan> libervisco: i have mixed feelings, it's rock solid on 3 machines i put it on, terrible on this machine (a crappy laptop with failing hardware, so i just assumed it was hardware)
[01:12] <[omni]> SeaPhor: in most cases you'll be fine. but if you run into a situation where you're using all your memory then need to swap (or clear cache) you'll run into issues if the kernel can't kill processes fast enought o mach the demand
[01:12] <PauloZumba> Sorry, hi folks, anybody may tell me a good softphone sip/voip.
[01:12] <stu> damn kiba-dock goes wonky if it starts before some of the gnome applets
[01:12] <cerebrate_> PauloZumba: ekiga
[01:12] <yojesus> how do i change the usplsh screen so when i turn the pc it will have diffrent boot screen
[01:12] <Ademan> yojesus: do you have the flashplugin-nonfree installed?
[01:12] <yojesus> ademan: yes
[01:12] <stu> night peeps
[01:12] <SeaPhor> [omni], sorry, n00b here, but how do i do that?
[01:13] <BCM43> yojesus: does it crash?
[01:13] <Ademan> yojesus: hrm, hardy or gutsy?
[01:13] <yojesus> hardy
[01:13] <libervisco> Now I suddenly have a problem with GNOME (at least I hope it's GNOME limited) where panels don't work (unclickable), nautilus crashes or freezes, firefox and some applications wont start at all.. and all this even after removing .config, .gconf, .gconfd, .gnome and .gnome2
[01:13] <Ademan> yojesus: huh, hold on i'm trying it now
[01:13] <[omni]> the first time i ran into this was when I brilliantly decided that server with 16GB of RAM didn't need swap. Well this server was in part server files over NFS so the memory backed file cache was pretty important. I couldn't figure out why it kept locking up.
[01:13] <BCM43> yojesus: does it crash?
[01:13] <[omni]> SeaPhor: do what exactly?
[01:13] <bazhang> libervisco, there a support question in there or just venting
[01:13] <amstella> i libervisco : thats exactly why i went back to 7.10 - to me gutsy is a rock
[01:13] <Ademan> yojesus: this certainly isn't a *solution* but firefox 3 beta five is AWESOME, it brought me back to firefox after 2 years of using other browsers
[01:13] <yojesus> no i just want to change the boot splash screen because right now it doesnt have one and it makes it feel like it takes longer to load
[01:14] <yojesus> ok
[01:14] <SeaPhor> clear cache,,, and btw,,, my memory peaks but swap never moves,,,???
[01:14] <SeaPhor> clear cache,,, and btw,,, my memory peaks but swap never moves,,,??? [omni]
[01:14] <amstella> firefox 3 is great and it will be great when released but why release a beta version in an official release, that just doens't make any sense
[01:14] <Ademan> yojesus: oh yeah, and it might help even to test if youtube works in firefox 3, since if it doesn't work in either that narrows the problem down
[01:14] <libervisco> bazhang, well to be honest there is.. it's a totally weird issue and came up literally overnight (I don't know if I accidentally did something before shutting down that would cause this, but it's still weird)..
[01:14] <[omni]> SeaPhor: you don't, your kernel clears the cache for you
[01:14] <amstella> it doesn't fully support everything so why release it
[01:14] <yojesus> the viedos work on firefox
[01:14] <yojesus> but not on opera
[01:15] <bazhang> this is getting a bit offtopic-->for chat please head to #ubuntu-offtopic
[01:15] <libervisco> bazhang, only thing that did happen is my comp wouldn't turn on properly at first until I unplugged and then plugged back in (a low quality PSU), but I'm not sure how would that cause this, and Fedora which I have on another partition works fine
[01:16] <libervisco> So I'm pretty much puzzled at this point :S
[01:16] <caesa1> HELP! I just spent like three hours filling out a form. After I submitted the form, I discovered that my session timed out. Clicking "back" in a new tab doesn't take me back to the form (with all of the information I filled out). What can I do to rescue the info?
[01:16] <randal> how do i install this tar these are the instructions Download and decompress the source .tar.bz2, move to the newly created directory (cd opt/cairo-dock/trunk/cairo-dock) and type:
[01:16] <randal> autoreconf -isvf && ./configure --prefix=/usr/local && make
[01:16] <randal> sudo make install
[01:16] <SeaPhor> [omni], swap is always at 0% usage, even when memory usage is at 22% by programs and 33% by cache?
[01:16] <[omni]> SeaPhor: the kernel is pretty good at memory management, so it only uses swap if it really needs to. What do you mean by peaks? it's normal for all the memory to be used on linux system if there's heavy file activity. A lot of that would show up as cache which typically doesn't get swapped (what's the point of writing a disk cache back to disk)
[01:16] <bazhang> libervisco, if gutsy is the right choice for you then you should use that; but apart from specific support issues (re: hardy) chat is in #ubuntu-offtopic
[01:16] <BCM43> caesa1: There is nothing you can do, and this is not related to ubuntu. sorry
[01:17] <[omni]> SeaPhor: that's not peaking :)
[01:17] <randal> how do i install this tar these are the instructions Download and decompress the source .tar.bz2, move to the newly created directory (cd opt/cairo-dock/trunk/cairo-dock) and type:
[01:17] <randal> autoreconf -isvf && ./configure --prefix=/usr/local && make
[01:17] <randal> sudo make install
[01:17] <[omni]> you only want ot use swap when you absolutely have to
[01:17] <bazhang> caesa1, you are out of luck.
[01:17] <Ademan> !repeat
[01:17] <[omni]> and preferably only temporarily
[01:17] <randal> how do i install this tar these are the instructions Download and decompress the source .tar.bz2, move to the newly created directory (cd opt/cairo-dock/trunk/cairo-dock) and type:
[01:17] <randal> autoreconf -isvf && ./configure --prefix=/usr/local && make
[01:17] <randal> sudo make install
[01:17] <kdavid>  I am trying to fix my window toolbar so I can open and close it by clicking the x but it is not there I have to go to file then click quit. How do I fix this?
[01:17] <libervisco> bazhang, well it is a support issue and tbh gutsy is a bit too old for me now :S
[01:17] <randal> how do i install this tar these are the instructions Download and decompress the source .tar.bz2, move to the newly created directory (cd opt/cairo-dock/trunk/cairo-dock) and type:
[01:17] <randal> autoreconf -isvf && ./configure --prefix=/usr/local && make
[01:17] <randal> sudo make install
[01:17] <Ademan> !repeat | randal
[01:17] <caesa1> couldn't I install something that looks through my memory?
[01:17] <caesa1> it's written paragraphs
[01:17] <BCM43> randal: are you getting errors?
[01:18] <randal> idk what to do
[01:18] <bazhang> caesa1, unless it was saved somewhere then no.
[01:18] <SeaPhor> no,,, that reading is now, i have had times where memory was peaked and both CPUs were 80-100% each and still no swap activity
[01:18] <Ademan> randal: have you tried the avant-window-navigator? it's a much better dock in my opinion and you can install it from synaptic
[01:18] <libervisco> What would cause GNOME panels to load, but be unclickable?
[01:18] <amstella> randal : what did you download?
[01:18] <Ademan> libervisco: oooh! i have the same problem occasionally, hardy right?
[01:18] <libervisco> and some programs, like firefox, to not launch..
[01:18] <SeaPhor> no,,, that reading is now, i have had times where memory was peaked and both CPUs were 80-100% each and still no swap activity [omni]
[01:18] <libervisco> Ademan, yes
[01:19] <randal> cairo-dock-sources-20080528.tar.bz2
[01:19] <[omni]> SeaPhor: if you needed swap you would have swapped. Again, cache typcially does not get swapped. And CPU activity has no impact on whether or not you swap
[01:19] <neofax> hello everyone!
[01:19] <Ademan> libervisco: is it at startup? because i get it *occasionally* throughought use, and just reboot
[01:19] <amstella> Seaphor : i agree with you.  They are talking way to much swap
[01:19] <amstella> its wasting space
[01:19] <neofax> Anyone using a HD-DVD drive in Hardy?
[01:19] <james_> If i get an error stating; Unable to resolve host MyComputer when running a command as Sudo, what's the likely issue?
[01:19] <Taz> hi all
[01:19] <libervisco> Adeene, well right after I enter password and log in, but reboots didn't help..
[01:19] <BCM43> !compile | randal
[01:20] <randal> how do you do this move to the newly created directory (cd opt/cairo-dock/trunk/cairo-dock)
[01:20] <BCM43> randal: cd
[01:20] <libervisco> Ademan, well right after I enter password and log in, but reboots didn't help..
[01:20] <Adeene> libervisco, O.o'
[01:20] <libervisco> sorry :)
[01:20] <Daisuke_Ido> randal: add a / before opt
[01:20] <[omni]> amstella: it's like insurance. it's only a waste until the day you need it. in MOST cases, you won't need that swap, but IF/(when) you do and it's not there, your kernel will try to kill processes to keep itself alive before it locks.
[01:20] <randal> oh ok
[01:21] <Taz> Are repositories of ru translation avaible? my omputer didn\t regonise ip =\
[01:21] <libervisco> Ademan, and even after deleting gnome, gconf and .config conf folders it's still happening..
[01:21] <caesa1> Is there any tool that allows me to look at everything that's on my memory?
[01:21] <amstella> omni : no your right, but come on, 4 gb of swap.  I can understand under different situations but not for a normal user
[01:21] <amstella> omni : its better to have it than that, but its def doesn't make sense to overkill
[01:22] <amstella> omni : sorry, better to have it than not
[01:22] <selocol> if i want to close a process, such as conky, which is responding perfectly fine, is it safe to use killall conky?
[01:22] <[omni]> heh... i totally forgot about my question. Anyone in here having issues with the latest kernel and their encrypted partitions?
[01:22] <neofax> Anyone using HD-DVD in linux?
[01:22] <[omni]> amstella: it depends on your priorities. These days disk space is so cheap, that i don't think going with the safety of 2xRAM is at all overkill
[01:23] <BCM43> amstella: that reminds me, i have no swap on start up. each time i start up i have to run sudo swapoff -a ;sudo mkswap /dev/hda4 ;sudo swapon /dev/hda4.
[01:23] <amstella> omni : its cheap i know, but would you use a double double to be safe or a double to allocate memory.  Only use what you need
[01:23] <BCM43> neofax: is anyone using hddvd in general?
[01:23] <[omni]> BCM43: if you don't have swap, why do you swapoff?
[01:24] <[omni]> and what tool are you using to see if you ahve swap or not?
[01:24] <neofax> I have HD-DVD movies and a XBox 360 HD-DVD drive.  Ubuntu help states it could be done on feisty, but I only get errors.
[01:24] <mzuverink> How can I make the boot splash smaller, it is huge on my nvidia card connected monitor, it takes up almost the whole screen?
[01:25] <neofax> Also, HD-DVD movies will only get cheaper until they become collectibles.
[01:25] <BCM43> [omni]: im not sure why swapoff is in there, oops. and i do free | grep Swap and it returns all 0's
[01:26] <Cubic> swapon -s
[01:27] <BCM43> Cubic: Filename                                Type            Size    Used    Priority
[01:27] <BCM43> /dev/hda4                               partition       1650116 52      -1 now i get that, i just ran the other command.
[01:27] <[omni]> you shouldn't have to mkswap everytime... doing a swapon should bring back your swap
[01:27] <[omni]> the question is why isn't it doing so on boot
[01:28] <Cubic> [omni]: righto
[01:28] <[omni]> you're not booting into the recovery mode kernel are you, BCM43?
[01:28] <BCM43> [omni]: well, it it matters, it occationally checks for error with the hard drive, saying it has not been checked for somthing like 32454 days.
[01:28] <BCM43> [omni]: nope
[01:28] <neofax> BCM43: What does your /etc/fstab state is your UUID of your swap drive?
[01:28] <[omni]> wouldn't check swap for that
[01:28] <[omni]> do you have a custom /etc/init.d/mountall.sh ?
[01:29] <[omni]> I'm guess that "hasn't been checked for" is an ext3 thing
[01:29] <[omni]> but i don't use ext3, so couldn't say for sure
[01:29] <BCM43> [omni]: noep
[01:29] <PauloZumba> cerebrate_: What have I that input to call +554163667666? sip:...???
[01:29] <deadlyallance215> is there a good way to get the osx type desktop found in dreamlnux in 8.04
[01:29] <ezzieyguywuf> I couldn't suspend b/c i'm running compiz on an ATI card and aparantly it isn't supported. I've edited my pm-suspend script to replace compiz with metacity before suspending and then to replace metacity with compiz when it resumes. Everything works great when I call pm-suspend from the command line. I cannot, however, get it to work properly using FN-F4 or the power icon. I have edited my hal-system-power-suspend-linux script so tha
[01:29] <radius_> after updating the kernel is there anything else i have to do?
[01:29] <BCM43> neofax: well there we go, there is none. UUID=/dev/hda4 none swap auto 0 0 none swap sw 0 0
[01:30] <[omni]> BCM43: do a grep swapon /etc/init.d/*
[01:30] <neofax> BCM43: You can go to /dev/(I forget exact)/disk-by-uuid and get your UUID for that partition slice
[01:30] <[omni]> BCM43: that doesn't look right
[01:30] <PauloZumba> cerebrate_: ...on ekiga, of course....
[01:30] <[omni]> you shouldn't have UUID set to your device
[01:30] <maybeway36> /dev/disk/by-uuid
[01:30] <BCM43> !paste
[01:31] <radius_> im fairly new to linux and have never updated the kernel before... :(
[01:31] <BCM43> [omni]: http://paste.ubuntu.com/16720/
[01:32] <neofax> radius_: For ubuntu it is fairly easy.  apt-get update; apt-get install linux-image-2.6.24-17-generic(if you are running non AMD64 nor server)
[01:32] <BCM43> neofax: where?
[01:32] <[omni]> BCM43: that should read: /dev/hda4 none            swap    sw              0       0
[01:32] <PauloZumba> Anybody uses ekiga to make sip voip calls?
[01:32] <radius_> it wants to update to 2.6.24-18
[01:32] <BCM43> [omni]: how do i fix that?
[01:32] <radius_> this is hardy heron
[01:32] <deadlyallance215> if i have a 32 bit system installed is there a way i can upgrade to 64 bit without reinstalling?
[01:32] <neofax> BCM43: maybeway36 pointed in the right direction /dev/disk/by-uuid
[01:32] <radius_> neofax: ty
[01:33] <neofax> just run a ls -l in that directory and it will show you the links based on uuid
[01:33] <neofax> radius_: np
[01:33] <[omni]> BCM43: I would use vi... I think there is a GUI way to edit that... sudo gedit <filename> or something
[01:34] <mohamed_> what is equal for inittab ?
[01:34] <neofax> radius_: Just remember if you have special drivers(ndiswrapper,ATI,NVIDIA) you will need to install their special drivers upon reboot
[01:34] <Broadcom> BCM43 here, my computer crashed, possibly due to the problems with swap
[01:34] <jubalj> Hi guys, I'm having a very strange networking issue and I'm hoping someone might be able to help. When I try to ftp or ping ftp.godzone.net.nz, ubuntu is instead going to ftp.godzone.net (without the .nz), nslookup ftp.godzone.net.nz resolves correctly.. I'm not using and dns cache, and things work fine when i dual boot into windows, or us ip addresses instead. http://paste.ubuntu.com/16721/
[01:34] <radius_> neofax: im using the restricted drivers
[01:34] <radius_> my ubuntu auto updates
[01:34] <Ashe|Happy> hm, what about sound problems? I keep getting roaring along with the sound itself.
[01:34] <[omni]> Broadcom: sudo cp /etc/fstab /etc/fstab.bak && sudo gedit /etc/fstab
[01:35] <neofax> jubalj: Run a traceroute and see if one of the DNS servers along the route are messed up
[01:35] <Broadcom> [omni]: hold on, booting up
[01:35] <Jack_Sparrow> Broadcom did you fix your swap yet..
[01:35] <Broadcom> Jack_Sparrow: trying now
[01:35] <[omni]> the whole UUID default thing annoys me
[01:35] <neofax> radius_: I am not positive, but I think they will update automatically when you upgrade the kernel.  What do you use the restricted for a vid card?
[01:36] <Jack_Sparrow> Broadcom gksudo gedit /etc/fstab                here is mine for an example    /dev/sda6                                   none            swap    sw              0       0
[01:36] <deadlyallance215> can 32bit "see" more then 4 gig of ram
[01:36] <jubalj> neofax: tracert shows me tracert to ftp.godzone.net (even though i ask for tracert ftp.godzone.net.nz
[01:36] <radius_> neofax: i use the restricted driver for the videocard and my broadcom
[01:36] <radius_> it works flawlessly
[01:36] <Jack_Sparrow> [omni] Please use gksudo gedit   sudo gui is dangerous
[01:36] <neofax> jubalj: Along the route though dns servers are pointing you thru the maze.  One of these maybe jacked.
[01:36] <jubalj> neofax: it works find when i dual boot, or do a nslookup, so i'm not sure its a dns server issue
[01:37] <ezzieyguywuf> I couldn't suspend b/c i'm running compiz on an ATI card and aparantly it isn't supported. I've edited my pm-suspend script to replace compiz with metacity before suspending and then to replace metacity with compiz when it resumes. Everything works great when I call pm-suspend from the command line. I cannot, however, get it to work properly using FN-F4 or the power icon. I have edited my hal-system-power-suspend-linux script so
[01:37] <radius_> neofax: ie been used to windows :(
[01:37] <[omni]> Jack_Sparrow: heh, i generally don't sudo GUIs
[01:37] <Jack_Sparrow> np
[01:37] <neofax> jubalj: OK, then my first answer is wrong if it works fine in windows.
[01:37] <Broadcom> [omni]: i did it, hold on ill put it in pastebin
[01:38] <neofax> jubalj: Are you running any thing like ipblock, privoxy or such?
[01:38] <[omni]> and gksudo doesn't do sudo properly for me. if i run sudo i expect everything to be done as root. gksudo changes that, so it's kinda useless for me.
[01:38] <Broadcom> pastebin.com/m2dc0cf02
[01:38] <Broadcom> pastebin.com/m2dc0cf02 [omni]
[01:38] <[omni]> Broadcom: can you put the original in pastebin as well?
[01:38] <Jack_Sparrow> Broadcom sudo apt-get install pastebinit  && cat /etc/fstab | pastebinit (Provide Pastebin link in channel)  is a cheaters way to do it
[01:39] <jubalj> neofax: no.. idont use any fancy proxy stuff..
[01:39] <Cpudan80> hello all
[01:39] <Jack_Sparrow> [omni] What distro or release are you running
[01:39] <Cpudan80> I'm having trouble with the clock panel applet
[01:39] <Cpudan80> its not updating the weather
[01:39] <radius_> neofax: ima let it update, hopefully i'll be back :)
[01:39] <Broadcom> !hi | Cpudan80
[01:39] <Cpudan80> is there some way to force it to update?
[01:39] <[omni]> Broadcom: that pastebin isn't correct
[01:39] <y_> Hey there. I'm having a problem updating using the Update Manager! (to 8.04). Giving me error "failed to run /tmp/tmp..../hardy as user root. the underlying auth mechanism (sudo) does not allow you to run this program. Contact sysadmin =( =( =(
[01:39] <neofax> jubalj: pastebin your output of netstat
[01:39] <[omni]> line 9 specifically is not right
[01:39] <[omni]> Jack_Sparrow: ubuntu 8.04
[01:40] <Jack_Sparrow> [omni] anf gksudo doesnt work for you..
[01:40] <DIL> I have been having problems accessing synaptic and update manager as a non-root user with the following error - current dist not found in meta-release file - it turned out that my host name was not listed or had been dropped from /etc/hosts
[01:40] <[omni]> Jack_Sparrow: it doesn't do what i want it to do, so no.
[01:40] <neofax> y_: Is your userid in the file /etc/sudoers?
[01:40] <Simonft> [omni]: it is broadcom: http://pastebin.com/m2dc0cf02
[01:40] <Jack_Sparrow> DIL You need root/sudo to add software
[01:40] <Guiri> is there a way to let someone watch/observe the console when I'm ssh'd in?
[01:40] <selocol> if i want to close a process, such as conky, which is responding perfectly fine, is it safe to use killall conky?
[01:40] <[omni]> Jack_Sparrow: it does "almost root". when i sudo i want full root
[01:40] <Guiri> like vnc for temrinal?
[01:40] <jubalj> neofax: ok.. do u want the whole thing?
[01:41] <Jack_Sparrow> [omni] True root is only as dangerous as the person using it..
[01:41] <Ashe|Happy> trying to get the sound to work on ubuntu 8.04 but roaring noise comes through whenever anything makes a noise.
[01:41] <neofax> selocol: Yes, if you want conky killed?
[01:41] <neofax> jubalj: Yes, in pastebin
[01:42] <Simonft> Jack_Sparrow: http://pastebin.com/f58bc573 it is braodcom
[01:42] <[omni]> Jack_Sparrow: I don't want sudo <blah> to look at my configuration files. it's not quite the same as running things as root. I don't know about "dangerous". it's just a matter of which config files are being looked/used
[01:42] <[omni]> Simonft: rever to your old file. the edits you made are incorrect
[01:42] <[omni]> *revert
[01:42] <jubalj> neofax: http://paste.ubuntu.com/16724/
[01:42] <neofax> Simonft: Well, your swap is trying to use your cdrom as your swap file.
[01:42] <Simonft> [omni]: revert?
[01:43] <selocol> neofax: yes i want to close it. is killall conky the safest method?
[01:43] <Simonft> neofax: really?
[01:43] <DIL> Jack_Sparrow: yes - but previuously when attempting to use synaptic as a non root user it would prompt for pw - iwas not getting the prompt and even update manager would hand my prob is solved i know there were some who had similar probs last night
[01:43] <selocol> neofax: it's functioning perfectly normal. i just want to close it
[01:43] <Jack_Sparrow> Simonft that is not correct
[01:43] <[omni]> Simonft: yes, go back to the old file. so assuming you did the full command i asked you to: sudo cp /etc/fstab.bak /etc/fstab
[01:43] <amstella> yo, whats the easiest way to pull files off of an ssh server
[01:43] <[omni]> Simonft: once you've done that paste the file and i'll paste the corrected version
[01:44] <amstella> i'm having one hell of a time getting it to work
[01:44] <[omni]> amstella: scp
[01:44] <amstella> omni : i know i did that and the working directory is wrong and can't find the file
[01:44] <Jack_Sparrow> amstella Please watch the language and keep it family rated.. thanks
[01:44] <Simonft> [omni]: http://pastebin.com/f41dd890c
[01:44] <[omni]> amstella: scp username@server:<filepath> ./newlocation
[01:44] <[omni]> amstella: can you ssh to the file?
[01:45] <[omni]> Simonft: that looks identical...
[01:45] <[omni]> amstella: ssh to the *SERVER
[01:45] <Jack_Sparrow> Simonft http://pastebin.com/f41dd890c       is wrong...
[01:45] <[omni]> sorry
[01:45] <neofax> selocol: That will not harm conky.
[01:45] <Simonft> [omni]: i never edited anything, what would i revert to?
[01:45] <[omni]> Simonft: did you do the sudo cp /etc/fstab /etc/fstab.bak ?
[01:45] <Simonft> [omni]: yes
[01:45] <[omni]> Simonft: ah, so that is the orig? Ok, good. hang on one second
[01:46] <neofax> amstella: scp
[01:46] <[omni]> Simonft: i'll fix it and paste teh correction
[01:46] <Simonft> [omni]: thanks
[01:46] <Jack_Sparrow> Simonft http://pastebin.com/d5f656306        Should work if that is the right partition
[01:46] <selocol> neofax: thanks
[01:47] <[omni]> Simonft: please do an ls /dev/scd0
[01:47] <[omni]> does that exist for you?
[01:47] <neofax> Simonft: Jack_Sparrow: /dev/hda4 is wrong if it is also pointing to /media/cdrom
[01:47] <Jack_Sparrow> Simonft actually  http://pastebin.com/d713e6e2a
[01:47] <Jack_Sparrow> neofax agreed
[01:48] <j800r> hey there. is anyone able to offer a little product support
[01:48] <Simonft> Jack_Sparrow: put that in
[01:48] <Simonft> j800r: just ask
[01:48] <Jack_Sparrow> sudo apt-get install pastebinit  && cp /etc/fstab ~/Desktop/Partition_Layout.txt && sudo fdisk -l >> ~/Desktop/Partition_Layout.txt && cat /home/$USER/Desktop/Partition_Layout.txt | pastebinit  (Provide Pastebin link in channel)
[01:48] <[omni]> Simonft: that last line is wrong. Do you ahve a /dev/scd0?
[01:48] <Ashe|Happy> Anyone able to help with the sound on 8.04?
[01:48] <neofax> What needs to be done is run fdisk -l /dev/hda and look for the correct patrtition which has a partition type of 83
[01:48] <Simonft> Jack_Sparrow: is that for me?
[01:48] <Jack_Sparrow> Simonft Just using what you had for your drive.. which was wrong
[01:49] <[omni]> neofax: he's already confirmed that hda4 is his swap partition
[01:49] <Jack_Sparrow> Simonft yes, we need to know the correct partition
[01:49] <j800r> having a random slowdown for no apparent reason. i've got less running then i normally do an ubuntu's lagging tenfold :\
[01:49] <Simonft> Jack_Sparrow: ahh, too many people at once, how do i tell what it is?
[01:49] <Jack_Sparrow> [omni] then the cd needs to be changed out
[01:49] <neofax> [omni]: Then he also needs to change it from pointing to /media/cdrom  That will mess up swap
[01:49] <Jack_Sparrow> [omni] take it over..
[01:49] <[omni]> neofax: yes, which is why i'm asking if he has a /dev/scd0 :)
[01:50] <neofax> [omni]: I will back out then.
[01:50] <[omni]> Simonft: ls /dev/scd0
[01:50] <[omni]> is it there?
[01:50] <vlad> hi ppl
[01:50] <Jack_Sparrow> [omni] That command I gave will help us know how his system is actually configured
[01:50] <vlad> i need some help
[01:50] <neofax> jubalj: Everything looks fine in netstat.  Are you running a aol im or any im right now?
[01:51] <vlad> how can i fix the choppy border problem in all videos or movies also choppy borders in subtitles?
[01:51] <neofax> jubalj: Also, what is in your /etc/host file?
[01:51] <j800r> so any advice on how to fix the slowdown anyone? :s
[01:51] <jubalj> neofax: just gaim.. and signed into aol
[01:51] <neofax> jubalj: It shows in the netstat
[01:51] <j800r> vlad: try using vlc. no border with that one
[01:51] <[omni]> i'm guessing Simonft crashed again
[01:51] <user01> how do i get desktop effects to work with an ati 9000?
[01:52] <vlad> j800r,  yes man also with vlc :(
[01:52] <Ashe|Happy> Screwed up sound, needing help.
[01:52] <j800r> hmm. seems like you may have a video config problem then :\
[01:52] <radius_> neofax: kernel update was fine :)
[01:53] <user01> is there a channel just for configuring x.org in hardy?
[01:53] <[omni]> physical therapy time. later, kids
[01:53] <jubalj> neofax: I've put my hosts file at http://paste.ubuntu.com/16727/
[01:53] <neofax> radius_: Welcome to the magical world of apt!!!
[01:53] <Treefire> So, I'm a complete noob to linux in general. I'm dualbooting mac osx and kubuntu right now. Is there any way I can give both leopard and hardy access to my music library?
[01:53] <Jack_Sparrow> user01 did you try to install fglrx?
[01:53] <Simonft> [omni]: not crashedm had to do something
[01:53] <Simonft> oh darn, he left
[01:53] <radius_> neofax: im using ubuntu ultimate 1.8 x64
[01:53] <Jack_Sparrow> sudo apt-get install pastebinit  && cp /etc/fstab ~/Desktop/Partition_Layout.txt && sudo fdisk -l >> ~/Desktop/Partition_Layout.txt && cat /home/$USER/Desktop/Partition_Layout.txt | pastebinit  (Provide Pastebin link in channel)
[01:54] <Jack_Sparrow> Simon run that and I will take over
[01:54] <j800r> can anyone help my with why ubuntu would be stalling? i mean, Linux dists are supposed to be way more stable :\
[01:54] <Simonft> Jack_Sparrow:  http://pastebin.com/f7273463e
[01:54] <user01> Jack_Sparrow, it says:  The latest driver version working with this chipset is 8.28.8. ATI has dropped support for this chipset in all further versions.
[01:54] <Jack_Sparrow> j800r Nothing is so perfect a determined user cant mess it up
[01:54] <radius_> neofax: is lightspeed and awesome
[01:55] <Jack_Sparrow> user01 that does not tell me what I asked
[01:55] <Simonft> j800r: i for example am very determinded
[01:55] <Jack_Sparrow> user01 what does fglrxinfo in term tell you
[01:55] <will00> would getting an analog to digital converter box allow me to watch analog cable on a digital only card?
[01:55] <j800r> so any advice either of you :\
[01:55] <neofax> jubalj: Your /etc/hosts is fine as well.  Let me google something to check dns records
[01:55] <Ashe|Happy> Can anyone help me with the sound problems I am having? It is just roaring on my music.
[01:55] <vlad> nobody got that problem with choppy borders with any player all videos?
[01:55] <user01> Jack_Sparrow, segmentation fault
[01:56] <j800r> vlad: i had that with totem before, but never vlc. it's new to me :s
[01:56] <jubalj> neofax: thanks.. this is really perplexing..
[01:57] <vlad> j800r,  :(
[01:57] <Jack_Sparrow> Simonft http://pastebin.com/d4980914a
[01:57] <Jack_Sparrow> Simonft So we need to find out where your cdrom is hiding
[01:57] <vlad> whats better compiz fusion or metacity?
[01:57] <j800r> is there anyways to restore all ubuntu defaults without doing a total reinstall. :|
[01:57] <user01> Jack_Sparrow, do i need to add to x.org confi?
[01:57] <neofax> vlad: They both are good, one is different than the other.
[01:58] <linuxmonkey> Jack_Sparrow: Just wanted to say Hi and keep up the good work
[01:58] <Jack_Sparrow> user01 How do you add what to xorg?
[01:58] <Jack_Sparrow> linuxmonkey howdy
[01:58] <Jack_Sparrow> Simonft go to /media and see if you have cdrom01  or something like that..   darn apples?
[01:58] <user01> Jack_Sparrow, do i need to manually add fglrx driver to xorg.conf?
[01:58] <neofax> user01: Just do sudo mv /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.bak  Then restart X
[01:59] <Simonft> Jack_Sparrow: ok, hold on
[01:59] <Jack_Sparrow> user01 No 9550 and under do not use it.. Most problems are from people trying to uise it
[01:59] <j800r> alright, n/mind. i'll try manually debugging or a restart
[01:59] <neofax> Whoops, Sorry Jack_Sparrow.  It seems you are helping user01 as well.
[02:00] <Jack_Sparrow> neo.. please feel free
[02:00] <linuxmonkey> i missed ya buddy, hopefully ill have a bit of time to provide a bit of support in a couple of days.
[02:00] <user01> Jack_Sparrow, ok so i how do i fix it for the one it is supposed to use?
[02:00] <linuxmonkey> neofax: jack is a jack of all trades he help multiple people all at once
[02:00] <Simonft> Jack_Sparrow: a shortcut to cdrom and folder called cdrom0
[02:00] <Jack_Sparrow> user01 What all have you done so far to get it going.. and ask neofax
[02:00] <HunterD> Anyone able to help me with sound problems?
[02:00] <Jack_Sparrow> Simonft cool.. hold for a sec and we can try this..
[02:01] <user01> neofax, i installed xorg-driver-fgltx
[02:01] <user01> neofax, rx
[02:01] <neofax> HunterD: Yes, what seems to be the problem?
[02:01] <HunterD> The sound makes a roaring noise along with the music.
[02:02] <neofax> user01: Do sudo mv /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.bak
[02:02] <Jack_Sparrow> Simonft do you have a cdrom0
[02:02] <libervisco> This is insane!
[02:02] <neofax> HunterD: Is it with every music player?
[02:02] <jon_high9000> hi there, anyone know to a video player i.e. VLC a default so you don't have to keep selecting it manually?
[02:02] <HunterD> Every player, even firefox.
[02:02] <HunterD> Has been doing it since the update to 8.04
[02:02] <Simonft> Jack_Sparrow: there is a folder called that in /media if that is what you mean.
[02:02] <Gohalien> Hi, anyone had the problem that suddenly, the gnome is freezed, when you try to open a program or a terminal for example, it open the program window all blank and seconds later a "click to force close the application" appears ?
[02:03] <Jack_Sparrow> jonsystem..pref..preferred apps..
[02:03] <user01> neofax, ok
[02:03] <Jack_Sparrow> jon_high9000  system..pref..preferred apps..
[02:03] <neofax> HunterD: OK, try playing a song and change the settings in your mixer to see which channel is producing the roar or if it is coming from all channels.
[02:03] <Jack_Sparrow> Simonft yes..   so here is my best guess on your apple..  http://pastebin.com/d6618fc21
[02:03] <jon_high9000> ok thanks. i will try it.
[02:03] <user01> neofax, next?
[02:03] <neofax> user01: Are you in CLI mode?
[02:04] <wabash> can anyone recommend web authoring tools for ubuntu? I'm not a web author, but I want to make nicely laid-out webpages
[02:04] <HunterD> Its all channels, I have went as far as testing individual channels.
[02:04] <user01> neofax, im running in a terminal in gnome
[02:04] <neofax> By that I mean no X running nor [G,K,X]DM
[02:04] <user01> neofax, nope
[02:04] <neofax> user01: do <ctl>+<alt>+<backspace>
[02:05] <Simonft> Jack_Sparrow: ok, how can i tell if that worked?
[02:05] <coolperson> hi all :)
[02:05] <user01> neofax, that just restarted x
[02:05] <Broadcom> !hi | coolperson
[02:05] <user01> neofax, i thought you needed CLI?
[02:05] <coolperson> i love using ubuntu linux
[02:05] <Jack_Sparrow> Simonft log out and back in.. remember from livecd you can restore your fstab backup as needed... sudo nano or cp etc
[02:05] <neofax> HunterD: Unplug the speakers and run only headset and see if you have the same problem.
[02:06] <Simonft> Jack_Sparrow: thanks, ill try
[02:06] <neofax> user01: What I am doing is allowing us to start fresh and build from there.
[02:06] <HunterD> I'm using a laptop but my headset does the exact same noise.
[02:06] <coolperson> i was wondering how can i setup a serve using the desktop
[02:06] <user01> neofax, ok what next?
[02:07] <mosrite52> hello/hola
[02:07] <Broadcom> !hi | mosrite52
[02:07] <zelrikriando> ubuntu is great
[02:07] <zelrikriando> I love it
[02:07] <neofax> HunterD: do sudo invoke-rc.d alsautils restart
[02:07] <jubalj> neofax: any other thoughts on my strange issue?
[02:07] <drewbert> Hello.  I just installed Xubuntu.  My ethernet controller (Broadcom 57xx) uses the tg3 driver.  The ethernet adapter shows up in the network manager and I copied my tcp/ip settings from windows to the network manager, but I cnnot access any websites nor am I able to ping my gateway.
[02:08] <neofax> jubalj: I cannot connect from here as well.  Do you know if the server is down?
[02:08] <drewbert> 8.04 Hardy
[02:08] <neofax> user01: Now, run lsmod | grep fglrx
[02:08] <dobblego> when I run an administrator application, I am no longer prompted for a password; how do I run these applications with gksudo?
[02:08] <drewbert> I think I should also mention the internet worked on the liveCD.
[02:08] <HunterD> invoke-rc.d: unknown initscript, /etc/init.d/alsaultils not found. <- I got this.
[02:08] <wabash> Anyone? I would like to make web pages, but not sure what's best for Ubuntu.
[02:09] <Broadcom> Jack_Sparrow: i still do not have the swap working, and for some reason i cannot boot the live cd.
[02:09] <user01> neofax, nothing happens
[02:09] <Broadcom> wabash: you mean html? try bluefish
[02:09] <user01> neofax, or was that supposed to be a sudo command?
[02:09] <indra> Good morning
[02:09] <neofax> HunterD: Try sudo invoke-rc.d alsa-utils restart
[02:09] <drewbert> wabash, I like gedit, but if you're looking from something more guified bluefish is pretty good
[02:09] <Broadcom> !hi | indra exept it is 9:09 at night where i am
[02:09] <Jack_Sparrow> Broadcom fstab cannot keep a live cd from booting.. what about recovery mode
[02:10] <neofax> user01: No, that is fine.  That just means you do not have the fglrx kernel driver installed.
[02:10] <indra> I need tool for resize live partition
[02:10] <jubalj> neofax:  I was able to get to it by ip.. but you are right.. the ip address isnt responding currently..
[02:10] <indra> i must resize live partition
[02:10] <drewbert> Jack_Sparrow: was that directed at me?
[02:10] <Lars_G> Hi all.
[02:10] <HunterD> Nada, it still has the roar.
[02:10] <Broadcom> Jack_Sparrow: the laptop has been moody about booting for a while. I have to go now, thanks for the help
[02:10] <user01> neofax, so what is next to get effects to work?
[02:10] <Lars_G> Question, does anyone know if there's a repo somewhere with precompiled beefed up ffmpeg debs?
[02:10] <drewbert> oh wait, nevermind there's a user in here with the name Broadcom
[02:10] <Jack_Sparrow> Broadcom see you tomorrow
[02:10] <jubalj> neofax: its back up now
[02:10] <neofax> jubalj: So, I am assuming that ftp.godzone.net is the man server and .nz is New Zealand specific.
[02:10] <Jack_Sparrow> drewbert nope
[02:11] <Broadcom> drewbert: hi, and bye
[02:11] <jubalj> neofax: no they are actually unrelated
[02:11] <drewbert> Well broadcom could you help me get my broadcom ethernet controller working?
[02:11] <jubalj> neofax: initially i thought someone might be trying to harvest passwords by tricking the dns somehow..
[02:11] <Broadcom> drewbert: sorry, im not good with eathernet, only wireless, and i have to go
[02:11] <drewbert> :-(
[02:12] <mosrite52> drewbert, did you tried pppoeconf?
[02:12] <drewbert> mosrite52: but I'm connecting to a router?
[02:13] <neofax> user01:  Get the envy script from albertmilone's website and let it install the fglrx driver.  Once that is done, it will create a new xorg.conf file for you.
[02:13] <|7w1273d|> ok ik ben er nu moet ik reboot
[02:13] <indra> how can i rezize live partition
[02:13] <indra> ?
[02:13] <drewbert> alright gues
[02:13] <drewbert> guys*
[02:13] <neofax> jubalj: It is still down here
[02:13] <drewbert> I can resolve domains, but I cannot open web pages.
[02:13] <drewbert> <-- confused.
[02:13] <indra> ?
[02:14] <user01> neofax, Jack_Sparrow said that fglrx didnt support below 9550 mine is 9000
[02:14] <giloth> I have a dual display going (the 2nd display is my TV) and using ATI Catalyst Control Center I wanted to extend the desktop, but for some reason my displays are switched from what they should be. (Showing first display as the TV and my monitor as the 2nd display. how would i go about fixing this?
[02:14] <Jack_Sparrow> user01 I will post my notes on 9550 and uder cards for you
[02:14] <neofax> user01: OK, I haven't used fglrx in forever.  Try this, lsmod | grep radeon
[02:14] <t35t0r> anyone have fluxbox installed? Is anyone getting really slow performance out of gnome-terminal when it is opened, or when switching tabs in gnome-terminal with ctrl+pgup/pgdown, or when opening a new tab or when putting focus on gnome-terminal?
[02:14] <jubalj> neofax: so here is the console output showing the odd behaviour http://paste.ubuntu.com/16728/
[02:15] <drewbert> how is it that I can resolve domains but not ping the ip's of those domains?
[02:15] <t35t0r> it doesn't do the same thing when i'm in gnome
[02:15] <t35t0r> the performance is good then...
[02:15] <Jack_Sparrow> user01 http://paste.ubuntu.com/16729/
[02:15] <t35t0r> and this didn't used to happen when I was using gentoo
[02:15] <user01> Jack_Sparrow, thanks
[02:15] <HunterD> A lot of the channels cleared themselves with that command, neofax.
[02:16] <SpaceBass> I upgraded from 7.10 to 8.04 and am having some authentication issues ... I need to reconfigure libnss-LDAP but when I run dpkg-reconfigure libnss-ldap   nothing happens
[02:17] <dobblego> why do the administrator applications no longer run with gksudo?
[02:17] <HunterD> Just, now the sound capt. is roaring.
[02:17] <HunterD> On the test.
[02:17] <giloth> I have a dual display going (the 2nd display is my TV) and using ATI Catalyst Control Center I wanted to extend the desktop, but for some reason my displays are switched from what they should be. (Showing first display as the TV and my monitor as the 2nd display. how would i go about fixing this?
[02:18] <indra> Windows
[02:18] <indra> lol
[02:18] <indra> :)
[02:18] <indra> i dont using windows 2 years
[02:18] <Frenchy> Hi. Is there a way to search using apt-get? apt-get search returns an error. I really need a list of packages or a place online that I can search. I did a headless install.
[02:18] <leleobhz> its possible to install ubuntu into a raid on promise TX4 softraid?
[02:19] <leleobhz> and dont have any another disk out of the raid
[02:19] <mohamed_> Frenchy-> apt-cache search
[02:19] <dobblego> Frenchy, apt-cache search
[02:19] <giloth> frenchy click Applications then Add/Remove Programs :)
[02:19] <neofax> HunterD: capt is what caption?
[02:19] <kitche> Frenchy: apt-cache search
[02:19] <HunterD> capturing
[02:19] <Frenchy> lol
[02:19] <Frenchy> MANY thanks
[02:19] <indra> i windows rooms are linux hackers
[02:19] <indra> :)
[02:19] <leleobhz> ?
[02:20] <wabash> drewbert: Thanks. Is Bluefish more for PHP and the like, or is it more for html?
[02:20] <giloth> hmmm i guess there are no dual display experts online at the moment :(
[02:20] <Awsoonn> Are there any wiki-gnomes in the house? please PM me.
[02:20] <indra> oh
[02:20] <drewbert> wabash: more for html
[02:20] <HunterD> Sound playback, fine. Sound capture - roaring and dead
[02:20] <Pici> Awsoonn: If you're asking about wikipedia, they have a large presense on this irc server
[02:20] <indra> have anybody see goosh :)
[02:20] <wabash> drewbert: cool, thanks.
[02:21] <indra> cool
[02:21] <jubalj> neofax: i can still connect to the ftp.. is there a possibility this is an odd bug with one of the ubunutu networking packages? I'm not sure how else i am getting this..
[02:21] <kdavid> How do I put the close "x" on the toolbar?
[02:21] <Jack_Sparrow> !ot | inda
[02:21] <neofax> HunterD: try lowering the capture volume to an acceptable level or in mixer one by one switch of the optional features until it works.
[02:22] <Awsoonn> Pici, I was referring more the Ubuntu wiki, but I'll got talk to them first, thanks.
[02:22] <flybaer> does anyone have an opinion of the "install inside windows" option as opposed to installing on reboot
[02:22] <Destructor> has  anyone had luck with network play in gnuchess
[02:22] <Jack_Sparrow> flybaer I wont use wubi or recommend it
[02:23] <kdavid>  How do I put the close "x" on the toolbar?
[02:23] <flybaer> Jack_Sparrow:reasons?
[02:23] <Jack_Sparrow> flybaer Read the wubi faq
[02:23] <jubalj> neofax: do you know how i can narrow down how ping or ftp works out what ftp.godzone.net.nz should resolve as?
[02:23] <neofax> jubalj: You may just have a funky connection.  Everything is correct as far as no proxy and /etc/hosts.  The only other thing I could think of is Hardy has ufw, which I am not familiar with.
[02:23] <flybaer> k
[02:23] <Jack_Sparrow> !wubi
[02:24] <dobblego> is it a new 8.04 feature that administrator applications (under System->Administration) do not run with gksudo?
[02:24] <flybaer> Jack_Sparrow:thanks!
[02:24] <drewbert> i changed my ipaddress and that got everything working =)
[02:24] <Jack_Sparrow> np
[02:24] <t35t0r> how do i generate an xorg.conf file?
[02:24] <HunterD> Narrowed it down to the device: HDA Intel (Alsa Mixer)
[02:24] <neofax> jubalj: ping and ftp resolves themselves based on what your primary dns server tells it.  However, if it resolves fine in windows, then it should in linux unless you have a strange iptable(ufw) command routing it to somewhere else.
[02:25] <SeaPhor> t35t0r, what do you mean by "generate"
[02:25] <jubalj> neofax: i did a sudo ufw disable, still having the same issue
[02:25] <t35t0r> SeaPhor, i mean i don't have an /etc/X11/xorg.conf fiel
[02:25] <SeaPhor> t35t0r, do you mean edit?
[02:25] <freethinker> hi!can anybody helpme put rosegarden dislpaying sound? i have installed,and also sox,and sndfile
[02:25] <Drizzt321> I'm trying to use a SATA/IDE -> USB bring on a SATA HDD. I can see the device in lsusb, but can't see it in /proc/partitions or /media or anywhere. Where would i find it to mount it?
[02:26] <t35t0r> SeaPhor, no i mean generate
[02:26] <kdavid>  How do I put the close "x" on the toolbar?
[02:26] <t35t0r> SeaPhor, i don't have a xorg.conf file
[02:26] <t35t0r> SeaPhor, i had to hack an install from the ubuntu iso file because i couldn't get the CD to go past 61%
[02:26] <ghindo> I'm using ssh to tunnel into a remote machine.  I'm trying to run rTorrent on that remote machine, but every time I close my ssh connection, I close rTorrent as well.  How do I keep rTorrent open?
[02:26] <neofax> t35t0r: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xorg-server I think
[02:26] <Drizzt321> basically I think I need to disable HAL so I can get at the disk directly since I'm trying to do some recovery
[02:27] <Drizzt321> how would I do this?
[02:27] <mohamed_> anyone use slim desktop manager ?
[02:27] <t35t0r> it's kind of funny how I did it too ..i'll have to document it some ubuntu forum
[02:27] <HunterD> Okay. scratch that. Conexant is acting funny
[02:27] <Jack_Sparrow> t35t0r please do..
[02:27] <SeaPhor> t35t0r, gksudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf    if thats not there then there are other issues?
[02:27] <neofax> SeaPhor: Newer versions of X do not need the xorg.conf file.
[02:28] <t35t0r> i looked all over google to see the proper way to install straight from an iso file but all i got were network installs or ones where i need a bootable usb stick or bootable external usb drive
[02:28] <shigutso> can someone please help me in this post on the forum? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=5109314 Thanks
[02:28] <t35t0r> this is what happens when you use gentoo for too long ..lol
[02:28] <rathel> I have a Dual-Monitor setup, I'm not using TwinView or Xinerama I'm trying to create a shortcut on my desktop to launch a game, but the game keeps launching on the wrong screen, it works find if I open a terminal on the screen and do it that way, I found echo $DISPLAY give me 0.1 How would I get my game to launch onto the screen through a shortcut? Thanks in advance.
[02:28] <Jack_Sparrow> t35t0r Please document it and provide me with a link once you do.. thanks
[02:29] <ghindo> mohamed:  What about slim?
[02:29] <freethinker> There is anyone who can help me?
[02:29] <HunterD> Resolved the problem neofax.
[02:29] <neofax> What was it exactly?
[02:29] <Jack_Sparrow> shigutso Please give an explanation when posting a link
[02:29] <elmer_> Is there a utility that allows me to view all IPs on my WiFi network?
[02:29] <HunterD> PCM channel on HDA Intel was doing something wrong when Coxenant was running.
[02:30] <jubalj> also, does anyone know a good way to batch convert a lot of doc files -> html files, (so they can be put on a website)?
[02:30] <t35t0r> elmer_, try arp -a
[02:30] <elmer_> t3
[02:30] <elmer_> dangit
[02:30] <shigutso> can someone please help me with Sharing Folder System in this post on the forum? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=5109314 Thanks
[02:30] <elmer_> t35t0r, OK
[02:30] <shigutso> Jack_Sparrow, :)
[02:30] <Jack_Sparrow> thanks
[02:30] <jedimind> jubalj: i wouldnt do that
[02:30] <jedimind> if you have any respect whatsoever for your site, dont do that
[02:30] <elmer_> thanks
[02:30] <jubalj> jedimind: how come?
[02:31] <elmer_> This is weird
[02:31] <SeaPhor> neofax, i'm getting older by the moment, just when i get used to how-to "do something"   it changes,, lol, oh well,, i'll watch and learn
[02:31] <jedimind> jubalj: conversion of word documents into html often leaves you with propriatery html and severely bloated files that prevent your potential users / customers to experience the site as they should
[02:32] <jubalj> jedimind: its medical study notes, more for personal use from anywhere, rather than for other people.. i dont mind the bloat cause it wont be accessed that often..
[02:32] <Frenchy> aha! webmin lives!
[02:32] <Jack_Sparrow> !webmin
[02:32] <jedimind> jubalj: fair enough, if its for internal use then it really doesnt make much of a difference
[02:32] <jedimind> jubalj: you could probably do a bit of a macro w/ Open Office to simply save the files as html
[02:32] <jedimind> how many files are you dealing with ?
[02:32] <jubalj> jedimind: 100s
[02:33] <neofax> SeaPhor: However, it is barebones X.  If you have any exotic, to include Radeon/GeForce, peripherals(spelling?) then it is just basic.  However, it helps in troubleshooting
[02:33] <jubalj> jedimind: probably around a 100
[02:33] <Jack_Sparrow> Frenchy You saw the info on webmin correct
[02:34] <Grego> Alguem já usou ou usa o BigLinux ????
[02:34] <Frenchy> Jack_Sparrow: explain:-(
[02:34] <freethinker> sim
[02:34] <Jack_Sparrow> !webmin | Frenchy
[02:34] <freethinker> ja usei mais o 4
[02:34] <Grego> ele é bom?
[02:34] <freethinker> beta 3
[02:34] <freethinker> sim eu gostei
[02:34] <jubalj> jedimind: problem with open office script would be having to open each file individually
[02:35] <Frenchy> !ebox
[02:35] <Jack_Sparrow> English please.. we have es, pt and it channels
[02:35] <Grego> eu to baixando ele pq o meu Ubuntu ta meio bugado
[02:35] <freethinker> nao sei se ja saiu a versão final, mas achei umas das melhores distribuiçoes ke vi ate agora
[02:35] <jedimind> im pretty sure you can either make the opening of the file part of the macro, or open al the files into open office at once, and just have it go through them
[02:35] <Jack_Sparrow> !pt | freethinker
[02:35] <Grego> eu acho q estou baixando a versão final
[02:35] <Jack_Sparrow> !pt | Grego
[02:36] <Frenchy> Jack_Sparrow: how can I completely remove webmin without wrecking my system?
[02:36] <Frenchy> :-)
[02:36] <Jack_Sparrow> Frenchy cant help you there
[02:36] <jedimind> jubalj: you're getting my msgs right ?
[02:36] <neofax> Frenchy: Sudo apt-get remove webmin
[02:36] <jubalj> jedimind: thanks.. i'll give that a try.. i suspect opening all at once,, will probably take my computer down.. its about 600Mbs of files
[02:36] <jubalj> jedimind: yeah.. cheers
[02:36] <Jack_Sparrow> !find webmin
[02:37] <t35t0r> neofax, dpkg-reconfigure xorg-server said that xorg-server does not exist
[02:37] <jedimind> jubalj: it probably wont crash your computer but will take a little while to open them all
[02:38] <jubalj> jedimind: i'll give it a try now and let u know :)
[02:38] <Wyleyrabbit_> can anyone point me to some help troubleshooting why Brasero doesn't work properly? Every time, and I mean EVERY time, it gets part way through burning something, then aborts with errors. The drive works fine one the same computer in XP where I haven't had a coaster in over a year, now in ubuntu I can't make anything other than a coaster. :-(
[02:38] <neofax> t35t0r: Try sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[02:38] <freethinker> ubottu : i was the one you was trying to help
[02:38] <jedimind> jubalj: before opening them all - make the macro first make sure it works (do a couple of files at first) so you dont waste your time :)
[02:38] <Subway> I tried installing Ubuntu -...Dapper on this imac g3.. ppc version. okaey so when i go to live.. i hear the boot sound and... nothing. just black screen. then i tried to do live power-pc or something like that and i got a screen error. :(
[02:38] <freethinker> lool
[02:39] <t35t0r> neofax, thanks worked ..
[02:39] <Jack_Sparrow> !ppc
[02:39] <jedimind> freethinker: talking to bots again are we?
[02:39] <Subway> ....
[02:39] <Subway> ubottu: You're too smart.
[02:39] <Subway> ;_;
[02:40] <Subway> Anyways I'll need help with my problem.
[02:40] <freethinker> jedimind: yes ,lool, i even didnt know
[02:40] <freethinker> jedimind:lool
[02:40] <t35t0r> neofax, dexconf would have done the same thing i guess ..that's what it runs
[02:40] <t35t0r> now to disable composite
[02:40] <neofax> Wyleyrabbit_: Check out dmesg | tail and tell me if wodim is erroring out
[02:41] <Subway> I tried installing Ubuntu -...Dapper on this imac g3.. ppc version. okaey so when i go to live.. i hear the boot sound and... nothing. just black screen. then i tried to do live power-pc or something like that and i got a screen error. :(
[02:41] <neofax> Wyleyrabbit_: I get the same problem and it is a known problem in Ubuntu
[02:42] <Jack_Sparrow> Subway We dont support ppc's in here...  that group has a new place .. please see the link I gave earlier
[02:42] <Subway> Jack_Sparrow: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PowerPCFAQ this?
[02:42] <Wyleyrabbit_> neofax: testing now, doing "dmesg | tail -f"
[02:42] <Jack_Sparrow> yes
[02:42] <Subway> damnit so i dont get help in an IRC i have to read a fucking faq?
[02:42] <freethinker>  Hi there! is anyone who can help me i have installed again resongarden and also sox and sndfile but still ican heard a thing, can aybody say what i have to do?
[02:43] <Jack_Sparrow> Subway /join #ubuntu-ppc
[02:43] <Subway> okay
[02:43] <neofax> Subway: Didn't you have to read the manual for windows or pay support?
[02:44] <sensouci> hello
[02:44] <neofax> sensouci: Hey!
[02:44] <bring3> !hi sensouci
[02:44] <St2622> Hello
[02:44] <bring3> dang i messed it up :D
[02:44] <sensouci> does any one got a syntek web cam working with ubuntu studio  174f:5a3d
[02:45] <St2622> Anybody know how to connect to 3g using nokia e51 with no password apn
[02:46] <user01> Jack_Sparrow, not working yet after i made your xorg line adds
[02:46] <sensouci> I have been googleling around the web and posted a topic on the french foru; but I did not found any help
[02:46] <Scooma> I want to mount a windows stripe in Ubuntu (I'm switching from XP). Can someone point me to a document? I've googled but haven't found anything specific to mounting a windows software raid stripe
[02:46] <nantax> how do i force the login resolution to 1024x768? it has a mind of its own and wants to be at 1280x1024 always... i already added the vga option in grub, added xres and yres in usplash.conf and editing xorg.conf to include the subsection mode will disable video acceleration (lowes res)
[02:46] <dobblego> is it a new 8.04 feature that administrator applications (under System->Administration) do not run with gksudo?
[02:46] <user01> Jack_Sparrow, for those lines that you added, why add them if they are commented out?
[02:47] <Starnestommy> dobblego: it souds like  abug
[02:47] <neofax> user01: Now do: gksudo gedit /usr/bin/compiz and change SKIP_CHECKS to yes
[02:47] <Starnestommy> *a bug
[02:47] <dobblego> Starnestommy, well bugger me
[02:47] <Jack_Sparrow> user01 The important ones should not have been rem'd
[02:47] <Wyleyrabbit_> neofax: nothing appeared in dmesg about wodim
[02:47] <Starnestommy> dobblego: I'll check launchpad.net for anything related to this
[02:47] <Orchid_> so why is my kubuntu install about 300pt font?
[02:47] <dobblego> Starnestommy, thank you
[02:47] <powertool08> is xinerama the best option for dual monitors or is there something better?
[02:47] <user01> Jack_Sparrow, #        Option "XAANoOffscreenPixmaps" "true"
[02:47] <Wyleyrabbit_> neofax: I have done a pastebin of the brasero log: http://pastebin.ca/1038359
[02:47] <jubalj> jedimind and neofax: thanks for you help guys.. i'm off..
[02:48] <Scooma> nantax: why would you want to force it low?
[02:48] <recover> this seems quite odd.. I can't listen to anything on rhythmbox, it won't playback anything
[02:49] <recover> and it seems to happen right after I play a video with flashplayer
[02:49] <Jack_Sparrow> user01 I did not make any edit like that
[02:49] <bring3> recover, are other music / sound programs still working?
[02:50] <Starnestommy> dobblego: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/synaptic/+bug/236426 might be related
[02:50] <sensouci> nobody with any success on syntek webcam?
[02:50] <user01> Jack_Sparrow, line 139
[02:50] <neofax> Wyleyrabbit_: Yours is different, also you are burning a dvd.  You are getting an error on accessing the burner itself.  Go to the brasero irc and ask what the meaning is of the I/O errors are.
[02:51] <dobblego> Starnestommy, thanks
[02:51] <Jack_Sparrow> user01 Are you talking about my notes.. and not a file I edited for you
[02:51] <PastorBones> .is there something that'll tell me what's accessing the hard drive?
[02:51] <user01> Jack_Sparrow, you edited a file for me?
[02:52] <PastorBones> I got a solid light and the server is frozen, but top doesn't show any CPU over 7%
[02:52] <Jack_Sparrow> user01 Those are there for different situations...  the ones that are not rem'd are the normal choices.
[02:52] <neofax> PastorBones: Is the PC using firefox?
[02:52] <dobblego> Starnestommy, thanks
[02:52] <user01> neofax, i dont see a SKIP_CHECKS line
[02:52] <PastorBones> nope neofax
[02:52] <Jack_Sparrow> user01 No just confused.. you said those lines I added...  I assumed it was a file I edited for you.. and it was not
[02:52] <PastorBones> there's no X system on it
[02:52] <pdlnhrd> anyone have any expericne with expose in 8,04?  i dont' seem to understnad what it is suppose to do
[02:53] <PastorBones> kswapd0 is running at 27%
[02:53] <nickrud> pdlnhrd press super-e , that shows what expose does
[02:53] <user01> Jack_Sparrow, i just took a d600 http://backports.ubuntuforums.com/showthread.php?t=504084 and added your lines to it
[02:53] <dooglus> !w32codecs
[02:53] <pdlnhrd> nikrud: super-e?
[02:54] <nickrud> pdlnhrd windowskey-e (we call it super or mod4(?) here)
[02:54] <Jack_Sparrow> user01 ok.. I cant help as I was leaving shortly
[02:54] <PastorBones> I think it's this collect.pl script for virtualmin that's doing it
[02:54] <Orchid_> so why is the kubuntu install text extremely large?
[02:54] <PastorBones> er collectinfo.pl
[02:54] <ghindo> I'm using ssh to tunnel into a remote machine.  I'm trying to run rTorrent on that remote machine, but every time I close my ssh connection, I close rTorrent as well.  How do I keep rTorrent open?
[02:54] <pdlnhrd> nickrud: thanks.. learn something new... but i want all the windwos dot fly way... they all just shrink
[02:54] <lastelement0> hey all, im trying to install 8.04 on a toshiba satellite laptop and once booting from cd and selecting "install ubuntu" it seems as if nothing is happening. are there any other methods of installing i should try?
[02:54] <user01> neofax, there is a if [ "x$SKIP_CHECKS" ="xyes" ]; then
[02:54] <Jack_Sparrow> nickrud Tag...   I'm outta here
[02:55] <neofax> user01: Sorry, I meant add it to the file above the first set of non-commented lines.  It should be SKIP_CHECKS=YES
[02:55] <nickrud> Jack_Sparrow see you around. Sometime we'll actually overlap for a bit
[02:55] <PastorBones> how do I edit cronjobs?
[02:55] <Jack_Sparrow> nickrud One of these days I will run up to see ya and have a drink
[02:55] <erpo> I recently changed my user account password and then updated my gnome keyring password. But now neither my current login password nor my old login password will unlock my keyring. Suggestions?
[02:55] <neofax> user01: Yes needs to have quotes around it
[02:55] <nickrud> PastorBones the general way is   crontab -e    in a termial
[02:55] <PastorBones> thanks
[02:55] <pdlnhrd> nickrud: i guess i am use to osx.... i will try to play around... i just want one hot corrner to fly out eveyrthing
[02:55] <nickrud> Jack_Sparrow soon, before it's $6/gal
[02:56] <user01> neofax, right above the COMPIZ_BIN_PATH?
[02:56] <freethinker> hi!
[02:56] <nickrud> pdlnhrd hm, not sure what you mean by fly out, but there is a setting for making hot corners. I'm not using compiz on this weak ati chip, but I've seen it
[02:56] <neofax> user01: Yes
[02:57] <pdlnhrd> nickrud: god forbid i read some docs but you got me started
[02:57] <salomoncab> hello does anyone know any basic gamma/brighness commands. im new to the whole ububtu and linux deal
[02:57] <PastorBones> adjut the settings on your monitor?
[02:57] <Orchid_> so why is the kubuntu install text extremely large?
[02:57] <freethinker> now something hapenn starnge, here on konversation, an user named Luisa in channel Luisa said to me to go to an site said this :" Hi!  I found best mp3 site! http://muslander.com/?lymahairwlyi"
[02:57] <salomoncab> yehh
[02:57] <user01> neofax, do i need to restart x again now?
[02:58] <salomoncab> meh monitors so dark
[02:58] <neofax> user01: no just compiz --replace in the terminal
[02:58] <mevsthevoices> For ubuntu (hardy) the default for the iptables is to be empty right?
[02:59] <nickrud> pdlnhrd looking at ccsm, I think it's expo edge on the bindings tab of expo plugin
[03:00] <pdlnhrd> nickrud:  thanks... i will do just that (as soon as i get my ipod hooked up right)
[03:00] <deezy> good evening
[03:00] <neofax> OK, I am off to bed.  I will check in tomorrow!!!
[03:00] <user01> neofax, Checking for Xgl: not present
[03:00] <user01> neofax, Found laptop using ati driver
[03:00] <user01> neofax, aborting and using fallback: /usr/bin/metacity
[03:01] <salomoncab> does anyonew know?
[03:01] <bluecake> what kind of file uses no extension?  in cache firefox, there are files ---> "whatever."
[03:01] <salomoncab> anyone
[03:01] <neofax> user01: You will need to install Xgl
[03:01] <deezy> could someone link me a good ventrilo install howto?
[03:01] <Starnestommy> bluecake: those ones are data cached by firefox
[03:02] <salomoncab> =/
[03:02] <PastorBones> is it a laptop salomoncab
[03:02] <bluecake> how to delete files with null extension?  "file." i can't delete this type of files
[03:02] <jedimind> deezy: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=41737
[03:02] <Starnestommy> bluecake: rm filename
[03:02] <bluecake> Starnestommy, ah.... on windows, not on linux
[03:02] <user01> neofax, xserver-xgl?
[03:02] <salomoncab> naw its my desktop
[03:03] <Pici> bluecake: This channel is only for Ubuntu Linux support, try ##windows
[03:03] <sonu_> which software is used for cd/dvd burning in ubuntu 8.04
[03:03] <sacamano> random question- so, im using ubuntu (ive used it for about 2 years now) im on hardy, i use my laptop for like 15-20minutes, it varies in time, and all of a sudden the audio stops working. a few minutes  later, everything open will be fine, but the gnome panel will be unusable. anyone have any idea?
[03:03] <nickrud> salomoncab you can try xgamma -gamma X.X , find what you like and add it to xorg.conf for permanent
[03:03] <bluecake> Pici, #windows can't help
[03:03] <Pici> bluecake: Its offtopic for this channel.
[03:04] <bluecake> so i come here to take chances
[03:04] <Frenchy> Jack_Sparrow:
[03:04] <Frenchy> one last question. webmin has an autostart
[03:04] <salomoncab> is that what i type in console
[03:04] <nickrud> Frenchy Jack_Sparrow stepped away
[03:04] <Frenchy> isn't that in /etc/rc.d or is that init.d?
[03:04] <salomoncab> sorry im new =/
[03:04] <sonu_> can u give the best software name for cd/dvd burning in ubuntu 8.04
[03:04] <sonu_> help me !!!!!!!!!!!
[03:04] <neofax> user01: yes
[03:04] <nickrud> salomoncab yes, x.x you replace with numbers, like 1.2 or something
[03:04] <Frenchy> nickrud: I installed webmin by accident. everything is gone according to whereis webmin.  I'm trying to delete whatever autostart script may ahve been installed
[03:04] <salomoncab> okay thank you
[03:05] <tritium> !attitude | sonu_
[03:05] <Frenchy> nickrud: can I search the entire hd for anythign related to webmin?
[03:05] <Pici> !burning | sonu_
[03:05] <nickrud> Frenchy you can try sudo apt-get remove --purge webmin, that will cleanly remove webmin for you
[03:05] <nickrud> Frenchy all traces, startup hooks, etc.
[03:05] <brody> hey can anyone help how would I burn an iso image to a blank disk in ubuntu?
[03:05] <tritium> brody: right-click it, and select write to disck
[03:05] <nickrud> brody right click the iso, select write to disk (burn)
[03:05] <tritium> disc, even
[03:05] <woddf2> Hello
[03:06] <Frenchy> nickrud: I installed using the sh script in the tar.gz because I don't have multiverse enabled
[03:06] <Cromag> someone asked for ventrilo install ?
[03:06] <Frenchy> sorry
[03:06] <woddf2> When I try to paste an image into KolourPaint, it keeps pasting a file name instead.
[03:06] <brody> sweet thanks guys
[03:06] <user01> neofax, ooo i restarted it and something bad happens now
[03:06] <Arky44> Is there a way to remove usplash without removing ubuntu-desktop (which I'm sure would wreak dependency havok)?
[03:06] <woddf2> It does this no matter what I copy.
[03:06] <Cromag> deezy: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=41737&page=5
[03:06] <anirudh0> Arky44: no problem if ubuntu-desktop is removed
[03:07] <nickrud> Frenchy ouch. No clue then. If it's a script, I'd look inside the script for the file install sequence. No certainty what names they would have, so searching wouldn't guaranty you get it all
[03:07] <user01> neofax, login screen, login, then i get an x cursor and then everything looks weird
[03:07] <salomoncab> i brought gamma command all the way up to 10 and nothing changed
[03:07] <brody> actually. . . .I don't have the write to disk option
[03:07] <Arky44> anirdh0: Really? I was worried I'd start a nasty dependency chain all the way to hell :P
[03:07] <Treefire> Howcome when I try to unarchive a .gz I get about a thousand priveledge errors?
[03:07] <neofax> user01: weird as in?
[03:07] <QueRicoMate> how can i add files to the iso using UCK??
[03:07] <anirudh0> Arky44: ubuntu-destop is a meta-package anyway..nothing really there inside it..just ensures you have the minimum packages needed for a default install
[03:08] <deeperror> Treefire: are you not using sudo?
[03:08] <neofax> post a photobucket pic
[03:08] <danbhfive> Arky44: you only have to worry when you want to upgrade
[03:08] <woddf2> When I try to paste an image into KolourPaint, it keeps pasting a file name instead.
[03:08] <woddf2> It does this no matter what I copy.
[03:08] <anirudh0> Arky44: to do that , do a apt-get remove libc :)
[03:08] <nickrud> salomoncab just tested it here again:  xgamma -gamma 2
[03:08] <Treefire> Treefire: Err, no, I was trying to use the gui program that came with kubuntu. I figured it would just work lol.
[03:08] <Arky44> danbhfive: can I reinstall it after I remove it?
[03:08] <Treefire> deeperror: rather
[03:08] <danbhfive> Arky44: of course
[03:08] <user01> neofax, everything is black and i cant read the text
[03:08] <anirudh0> Arky44: somehow, usplash when reinstalled refuses to work
[03:09] <Arky44> danbhfive: but...then it would reinstall usplash
[03:09] <Arky44> ah
[03:09] <user01> neofax, lines running across
[03:09] <anirudh0> woddf2: did you compile it or install from repos?
[03:09] <salomoncab> anyone...
[03:09] <woddf2> I guess the latter...
[03:09] <Arky44> anirudh0: i'm a slackware addict; i like my console scrolling at startup :P
[03:09] <deeperror> treefire: maybe the folder it's extracting to doesn't have w for your user?
[03:09] <Treefire> Oh
[03:09] <Treefire> Rofl
[03:09] <anirudh0> Arky44: a more permanent solution is to remove "splash" from the kernel parameter list in menu.lst
[03:09] <Treefire> I feel stupid.
[03:09] <brody> yea sorry i have no option to write the iso to a disk. . .are there any programs that would help?
[03:10] <anirudh0> Arky44: one sec
[03:10] <Arky44> anirudh0: k i'll try that
[03:10] <QueRicoMate> how can i add extra files to the iso image of ubuntu with uck??
[03:10] <deezy> I'm using a Logitec USB headset on my laptop in addition to my laptops onboard sound.  I selected the USB headset from the mixer on the top right volume properties and vent replies with "No mixers are available"
[03:10] <anirudh0> Arky44: instead of removing usplash, remove the "quiet" from menu.lst
[03:10] <nickrud> Arky44 remove splash quiet from the line in /boot/grub/menu.list  # defoptions , then run sudo update-grub
[03:10] <Arky44> ok
[03:10] <anirudh0> Arky44: that way,,,you'll see the "scrolling" in the usplash window..much nicer imho
[03:10] <nickrud> *menu.lst that is
[03:11] <salomoncab> anyone with any brightness commands?
[03:11] <Arky44> anirudh0: we're teo of a kind :P
[03:11] <anirudh0> salomoncab: applet?
[03:11] <Arky44> *two
[03:11] <neofax> user01: type fglrxinfo in the terminal and tell me what it says
[03:12] <salomoncab> i dont know
[03:12] <anirudh0> Arky44: there is also something called splashy..never could get it to work for ubuntu..is'nt it the default on slackware
[03:12] <salomoncab> i am new to ubuntu
[03:12] <Arky44> anirudh0: defoptions is commented out, does that matter?
[03:12] <lastelement0> hey all i just got live cd to boot on a toshiba satellite a105 laptop but the touchpad doesnt work. what can i do?
[03:12] <anirudh0> salomoncab: i meant..there's a panel applet
[03:12] <woddf2> It also happens in applications other than KolourPaint.
[03:12] <salomoncab> and i need moar brightness!!!!
[03:12] <user01> neofax, is currently not installed
[03:12] <woddf2> (e.g., Firefox)
[03:12] <anirudh0> Arky44: no
[03:12] <salomoncab> wat u mean panel applet?
[03:12] <anirudh0> woddf2: is klipper running?
[03:13] <woddf2> Glipper is running.
[03:13] <anirudh0> salomoncab: there is a gnome panel applet for controlling laptop lcd screen brightness
[03:13] <elmer_> Anybody know of any Linux programs that can upload firmware to a flashed Linksys WAP54G?
[03:13] <salomoncab> im on my desktop =p
[03:13] <nickrud> salomoncab he's talking about the laptop brightness control you can add by right clicking the panel, then add to panel
[03:13] <woddf2> Now I have copied text in Firefox by selecting it, and it does it with that aswell...
[03:13] <anirudh0> elmer_: check in the "electronics:multiverse" section in synaptic
[03:13] <salomoncab> does it matter?
[03:13] <elmer> anirudh0, OK
[03:13] <woddf2> Oh wait...
[03:13] <elmer> anirudh0, how would I go about doing that?
[03:13] <nickrud> SaLoMoN probably, but hey, it won't break anything
[03:14] <woddf2> It does it with the old string of text!
[03:14] <MrBaron> elmer_: You could probably flash the router to use DD-WRT
[03:14] <woddf2> *It still does it with the old string of text!
[03:14] <MrBaron> then it wouldn't be a problem
[03:14] <elmer> MrBaron, that's what I'm trying to do
[03:14] <elmer> MrBaron, but I think it's listening on its ethernet port for some firmware
[03:14] <elmer> and the web interface doesn't work
[03:14] <Kohlrak> does anyone know any sideways fonts for ubuntu, i can't get anyting to show up right in open office when in the vertical writing mode
[03:14] <elmer> but arp -a confirms it's there
[03:15] <neofax> user01: Do sudo apt-get install libgl1-mesa-glx
[03:15] <salomoncab> where would i find this GNOME applet?
[03:15] <anirudh0> woddf2: not sure if this will help..but right click on clipper(in the system tray)..clear clipboard and try again
[03:15] <nickrud> salomoncab right click a panel, select add to panel. It's listed there
[03:15] <deeperror> elmer, would it be looking for a tftp server?
[03:15] <travers> ahh ubuntu is pure garbage! I got some netboot tar off the servers (which was horrible outdated,) untarred those, and what was in it? A kernel, a bootloader and NO README. WHat is it going to do when it boots up? some esoteric bootparam rpc call? NOBODY KNOWS! its CRAPPPPPPP CRAP CRAP LINUX IS CRAP< UBUNTU ESPECIALLY!
[03:15] <elmer> deeperror, I think so
[03:15] <tritium> travers: take it easy, and watch the language
[03:15] <elmer> deeperror, is it good if it is?
[03:15] <nickrud> travers well, if you get outdated stuff ....
[03:15] <anirudh0> travers: netboot is for those who _know_ what they are doing
[03:15] <Kohlrak> travers, if you're going to not use it and complain, get out
[03:16] <anirudh0> travers: you should use the standard install cd
[03:16] <tritium> travers: ubuntu doesn't distribute .tar files.  It uses .deb packages.  You are mistaken.
[03:16] <Flannel> travers: If you're trolling, please go somewhere else.  If you'd like to just complain, please go somewhere else.  If that's some sort of convoluted support query, try asking more clearly.
[03:16] <woddf2> anirudh0: I have tried that, and it does not work.
[03:16] <user01> neofax, i think that is already installed
[03:16] <user01> neofax, it didnt install anything
[03:16] <deeperror> elmer, never worked with one but i modified a vonage ata.
[03:16] <anirudh0> woddf2: i am sorry then..have had this problem in some apps in the past intermittently..you are running 3.5.9?
[03:17] <elmer> deeperror, OK, did you use a tftp server on that?
[03:17] <salomoncab> no the laptop brightness panel is an EPIC FAIL
[03:17] <salomoncab> =[
[03:17] <brody> travers-what's your problem?
[03:17] <woddf2> anirudh0: I am using KolourPaint in GNOME.
[03:17] <m_newton> Help configureing appachi!!!
[03:17] <woddf2> anirudh0: My KDE version is 3.5.9.
[03:17] <Kohlrak> brody, travers left. XD
[03:17] <Starnestommy> m_newton: are you referring to apache?
[03:17] <salomoncab> what to do????
[03:18] <bring3> m_newton, please try to a bit more specific, what do you need to configure, and what is your current status?
[03:18] <brody> good riddance
[03:18] <woddf2> anirudh0: My GNOME version is 2.22.2.
[03:18] <user01> neofax, should i uninstall x-server-xgl for the moment?
[03:18] <neofax> user01: Do cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf | grep ati
[03:18] <m_newton> Starnestommy: yup, i have no-ip2 running and apache2 running local host works noip2 detect my ip and updates it, but site does not work???
[03:19] <anirudh0> woddf2: sorry..i'm not able to reproduce your problem on my machine
[03:19] <Starnestommy> m_newton: what do you mean by "does not work"?
[03:19] <neofax> user01: no, just do <CTL>+<ALT>+<BACKSPACE>
[03:19] <salomoncab> anyone else have any advce?
[03:19] <woddf2> Thanks anyway
[03:19] <woddf2> Goodbye
[03:19] <Starnestommy> m_newton: connection refused?
[03:19] <user01> neofax, Driver "ati"
[03:19] <jtaylor13> group: how do i get the firestarter fire wall to run at system start up?
[03:19] <m_newton> Starnestommy: I go to site, and it does not show my page, port forwarding is configure correctly
[03:20] <doomba> need help, anyone care to enlighten me\
[03:20] <mohamed_> anyone know a light desktop manager with auto login ?
[03:20] <bring3> hmm idk what no-ip2 is, have to look it up
[03:20] <m_newton> Starnestommy: here is my site harsh.no-ip.biz
[03:20] <nantax> how do i force the login resolution to 1024x768? it has a mind of its own and wants to be at 1280x1024 always... i already added the vga option in grub, added xres and yres in usplash.conf and editing xorg.conf to include the subsection mode will disable video acceleration and default to lowest resolution
[03:20] <neofax> user01: Do this: DISPLAY=:0 glxinfo | grep render
[03:20] <bring3> m_newton, does your website appear ok at http://localhost/ or http://<IP_ADDRESS>/ ?
[03:21] <Starnestommy> m_newton: does /etc/apache2/ports.conf have "Listen 80" in it?
[03:21] <anirudh0> mohamed_: entrance
[03:21] <danbhfive> nantax: have you tried listing the desired resolution as the first listed one?
 yup
[03:21] <anirudh0> mohamed_: repo is e17.dunnewind.net
[03:21] <nantax> danbhfive, first listed one on where?
[03:21] <mohamed_> thanks anirudh0
[03:21] <danbhfive> nantax: xorg.cong
[03:21] <user01> neofax, No protocol specified
[03:21] <anirudh0> jtaylor13: a script can be added in /etc/init.d
[03:22] <user01> neofax, Error: unable to open display :0
[03:22] <m_newton> Starnestommy: Listen 80<IfModule mod_ssl.c>    Listen 443</IfModule>
[03:22] <m_newton> Starnestommy: yup
[03:22] <nantax> danbhfive, there are no resolution entries in there. if i add it, then when i reboot, hardware acceleration is off... i have installed the newest nvidia drivers
[03:22] <Starnestommy> m_newton: and do you have the right IPs for the port forwarding?
[03:22] <neofax> user01: Do sudo apt-get install libgl1-mesa-dri
[03:22] <bring3> m_newton, ok then thats as working as i know how to make apache :D but seriously it sounds like a no-ip problem?
[03:22] <danbhfive> nantax: i dunno, sorry
[03:23] <salomoncab> any way to boost brightness besides gamma commands
[03:23] <salomoncab> ?
[03:23] <ghindo> When I try to forward a GUI app through ssh, I get the following error:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/16736/  What's wrong?
[03:23] <user01> neofax, didnt do anything . . . might be installed already?
[03:23] <onthefence928> hey can someone explain to me how to revert my firefox 3.5 back to 3.4?
[03:23] <travers> so does anybody know? rpc bootparam call after the netboot kernel comes up?
[03:23] <jtaylor13> group: how do i get the firestarter fire wall to run at system start up?
[03:23] <Starnestommy> ghindo: are you using ssh -Y?
[03:23] <Orchid_> What would cause KUBUNTU font to be so BiG?
[03:24] <nantax> i also installed startup manager and i set grub to be at 1024x768, my desktop is set to the same res... but when grub is finished, login will be at 1280x1024, then go back to 1024x768 at desktop... annoying at best
[03:24] <Flannel> onthefence928: 3.5?