[00:29] <MenZa> @login
[00:34] <MenZa> Whoa, that was an old ban.
[00:34] <MenZa> 2008-12-01
[04:10] <Madpilot> !pt
[04:10] <Madpilot> !br
[04:10] <Flannel> Madpilot: It's correct how it is
[04:11] <Madpilot> I don't speak a word of Portugese, so couldn't judge, just wanted to check
[04:11] <Flannel> Unless something has changed (it might have).  The user who suggested it appeared to not be aware of the situation
[04:12] <Madpilot> neither am I, TBH.
[04:12] <Madpilot> should we be directing all pt-speaking traffic to -pt and leave -br for the locoteam work?
[04:13] <Flannel> thats what the factoid is now, becuase that's what it was changed to (it used to be -br and -pt for -br and -pt) by request of LoCo/whatever peopl
[04:16] <Madpilot> OK, cool
[04:16] <Madpilot> the things I poke at while I wait for downloads to finish... ;)
[04:23]  * persia mildly comments that some folk believe these to be sufficiently divergent languages (with the same name) that they may be mutually incomprhensible
[04:56] <ardchoille> suspicious activity in #ubuntu with djungelkraem and djungelmums kinda looks like the same ip
[05:20] <Amaranth> jussi01: seems the offtopic group still won't let us renew ourselves
[05:25] <nhandler> Amaranth: It is fixed now
[05:25] <Myrtti> nhandler: no, its not
[05:26] <nhandler> Myrtti: As of about 2 minutes ago it is
[05:26] <Myrtti> yay, more emails!
[05:28] <persia> And yet another day of waiting.
[05:39] <Madpilot> was just going to mention that
[05:39] <Madpilot> we should probably start a "buy jussi01 a beer" fund, he likely needs it badly by now... :)
[05:39] <elky> well, he did it to himself.
[05:40] <persia> At this point it'd probably be easier for him just to go around and ask everyone and press the buttons himself.
[05:45] <Flannel> bugger.  Now I'm going to have to wait until next year to fix the off-by-one error with my days
[06:27] <Myrtti> or just do "launchpad.net/~$launchpadid/+expiringmembership/irc-ubuntu-offtopic-ops"
[06:29] <Tm_T> shame there's no single page where you can handle those all
[06:29] <persia> Well, there may exist someone who doesn't want to be a member anymore but also doesn't want the stigmata of "Deactivated" for some reason.  People are all sorts of picky.
[06:34] <Myrtti> persia: yup, I'm considering doing that on couple of my groups
[06:40] <jussi01> do I dare show my face today? :P
[06:49] <Amaranth> dang, now offtopic expires a day after the rest
[06:49] <Amaranth> oh, wait, no it doesn't... weird
[06:53] <tonyyarusso> persia: I'm like a billion percent sure you meant "stigma", not "stigmata".  :P
[06:54] <persia> tonyyarusso: I think you're underconfident
[06:54] <Tm_T> jussi01: ofcourse (;
[06:57]  * jussi01 is very nervous, got his maturity exam today (the exam that comes after your thesis)
[06:59] <Tm_T> jussi01: it goes well, just remember my mad face
[07:00] <Flannel> stigmata are on leaves!
[07:01] <Flannel> oh wait, those are stomata
[07:02] <tonyyarusso> stigmata is when your hands miraculously start bleeding in imitation of the crucifixion of Jesus.
[07:10] <Tm_T> tonyyarusso: I have that when I try to do something with sharp knife, is that miracle?
[07:13] <tonyyarusso> close, but no canonization
[07:14] <Flannel> tonyyarusso: If he gets a job doing Ubuntu stuff, and then continues to do that, would it become a canonical version?
[07:15]  * tonyyarusso headdesks
[07:15] <jussi01> hehe
[07:16] <Myrtti> your puns are almost as awful as the bread ones on #freenode yesterday
[07:17] <tonyyarusso> Do you think I could show up at the Canadian border and claim asylum on the grounds that my countrymen are dumb as peat and listening to them all the time constitutes torture?
[07:18] <Myrtti> tonyyarusso: as a Finn, I think you could come to Finland. You'd atleast get a hug and a bottle of Koskenkorva
[07:18] <jussi01> :D
[07:19]  * jussi01 hands tonyyarusso a bottle of koskenkorva :D
[07:19] <Myrtti> ah ♥ work emails in claws-mail
[07:19] <Myrtti> the brilliance of good filtering and processing rules
[07:19]  * tonyyarusso doesn't have quite enough Finn for the special immigration stuffs
[07:20] <tonyyarusso> I'd actually not mind living there much.  Only downside is it would be far away from family.
[07:29] <tonyyarusso> Myrtti: yeah, the cutoff for some sort of specialness appears to be a grandparent who was a native Finnish citizen.  My grandma was 100% Finnish ethnically, but born in the US.
[07:29] <tonyyarusso> or at least 2 grandparents who were by nationality - I only have 1 :(
[07:29] <topyli> i just answered someone's question in aardvark, about the finnish weather in august. tonyyarusso is secretly planning the trip already!
[07:32] <Tm_T> ):
[07:33] <tonyyarusso> haha
[07:33] <tonyyarusso> That would make more sense if I knew what aardvark was though.
[07:34] <tonyyarusso> I would like to at least visit sometime.  My parents went without me last year. :(
[07:34] <topyli> http://vark.com/
[07:35] <tonyyarusso> huh
[07:35] <Tm_T> time to go to repair that lousy car ->
[07:36] <topyli> tonyyarusso, you ask a question via the jabber bot or email, then aardvark finds people who know about the subject. it then pokes them via jabber/email so they can answer your question. it's pretty wonderful
[07:39] <tonyyarusso> Other problems with Finland: citizenship requires Finnish or Swedish language proficiency :S
[07:41] <jussi01> tonyyarusso: only if its by application, not heritage
[07:43] <tonyyarusso> jussi01: right, but as stated, my heritage is too watered down to qualify.
[07:43] <jussi01> tonyyarusso: finnish isnt that hard to learn - easier than c++ :)
[07:45] <tonyyarusso> haha
[07:45] <Myrtti> I was wondering yesterday would I learn Perl easier if I tried with Perligata
[07:49] <Flannel> Myrtti: read the llama book, you'll learn perl
[07:51] <Myrtti> noooooo perligata!
[07:55] <tonyyarusso> It's kind of sad that "the llama book" makes perfect sense to me...
[07:58] <jussi01> llama book?
[07:59] <Flannel> jussi01: "Learning Perl"
[07:59] <Flannel> As opposed to "Perl" (The Camel Book)
[08:07] <Myrtti> after a morning headache from hell, I'm finally FREEEEEEEE
[08:28] <dholbach> good morning
[11:31]  * mneptok waves from Reykjavik
[11:32] <knome> mneptok, greetings from Helsinki!
[11:32] <mneptok> knome: are you new to the ops team?
[11:33] <persia> knome has been an op in the xubuntu world for a long time
[11:33] <knome> mneptok, no, not that new, but was told about this channel only yesterday
[11:33] <knome> hi persia :)
[11:33] <persia> Hey knome.
[11:34] <mneptok> ach so
[11:34] <persia> mneptok: jussi01 has been poking folk to come idle here in lots of channels.
[11:34] <mneptok> persia: Aussies get lonely in Oulu. ;)
[11:35] <knome> who wouldn't get lonely in oulu?
[11:35] <mneptok> knome: Saami? rteindeer?
[11:35] <Myrtti> it's not that far north really ;-=
[11:36] <knome> mneptok, they're just better in hiding the fact they're lonely
[11:36] <knome> mneptok, yeah, and kde isn't *that* heavy ;P
[11:36] <knome> Myrtti, ^
[11:37] <Myrtti> knome: I saw sausage factories but no reindeer when I've been there
[11:37] <knome> :)
[11:38] <knome> my friend who was in eastern siberia last fall said he saw both camels and reindeers in the same city:)
[11:40]  * gnomefreak wants to move as far north as i can get because i want penguins in my backyard :)
[11:40] <Myrtti> good luck in that ;-)
[11:41] <gnomefreak> someday i will move to Alaska i hope.
[11:41] <knome> he definitely needs luck in that. i thought penguins only lived in south.
[11:41] <Myrtti> knome: exactly :-P
[11:42] <gnomefreak> i thought they were found in Alsaka or ever northern Canada
[11:42] <knome> lol. wikipedia taught me something. now i know where "gentoo" comes from :P
[11:42] <Myrtti> gnomefreak: nope, polarbears. no penguins
[11:42] <gnomefreak> ah
[11:43] <knome> gnomefreak, now you have to refresh your dream
[11:43] <knome> :<
[11:43] <persia> There are plenty of penguins in the north, just not wild ones.
[11:43] <Myrtti> northernmost penguins live at the equator
[11:43] <Myrtti> apart from the zoo ones, of course
[11:43] <jussi01> gnomefreak: Philip Island, Melbourne.
[11:43] <gnomefreak> :( antartica is too cold to really live there all year long
[11:44] <jussi01> or rather Phillip Island :D
[11:44] <knome> persia, moving further to north doesn't increase the penguins near you though :P
[11:44] <gnomefreak> oh didnt know aus. got cold anywhere
[11:44] <persia> Very much not.  There are non-wild penguins in roughly even distribution all over.
[11:44] <topyli> i don't think the penguins live on the antactica all the year either
[11:44] <persia> topyli: Some due.   :D
[12:33] <persia> Well, unless you live up north.
[12:35] <knome> unless you live up north and are unable to steal a penguin from the zoo, remind you.
[12:38] <persia> Or from an animal hospital or travelling circus, etc.
[12:42] <gord> or make a penguin out of plastic bottles, black nail paint and a kitten.
[12:42] <gord> it works, honestly.
[12:42] <persia> They have lower food costs too :)
[13:12] <knome> not if you steal the food as well anyway. :)
[13:17] <topyli> i think stolen penguins only ead stolen food
[13:17] <topyli> eat even
[13:21] <persia> Depends on how much of their body mass is polyethyltoluene
[13:23] <gord> penguins evolved from kittens anyway, just kittens with beaks
[13:26] <persia> And flippers.  Kittens never have enough flippers.
[13:31] <knome> but it's cuter when a kitten is drowning than when a penguin is drowning, so it's better that they don't have flippers.
[13:31] <knome> uhm, i mean... :P
[13:32] <persia> You're clearly not a fuzzy lover then.
[13:33] <knome> no, i don't like/love animals that much. it's funny how all the animals (especially cats) seem to love me and immediately come leaning against me legs
[13:33] <knome> *my
[13:38] <knome> hmm. my fingernail let out a weird sound when hitting the monitor accidentally
[13:38] <knome> really loud snap
[14:01] <topyli> hi IAmKlausFiedler, what can we do for you?
[14:02] <IAmKlausFiedler> Sorry, I thought this channel was nonexistant.
[14:02] <IAmKlausFiedler> I'll come back when I am an op. {c:
[14:02] <Pici> no comment.
[14:03] <topyli> admirable restraint!
[14:06]  * gnomefreak goes to my corner now
[16:46] <jussi01> o/
[16:46] <jussi01> I win!
[16:47]  * genii makes more coffee
[16:49] <knome> jussi01, you lose.
[17:16] <Gary> jussi01: did you need me to ask to be renewed on #ubuntu-offtopic ops (re mailing list post)?
[17:20] <Pricey> jussi01: same ^ i'm unable to renew that either
[17:23] <Pici> me too
[17:25] <knome> jussi01, i want you to do it for me as well.
[17:25] <knome> ;)
[17:30] <Gary> must not make rude comment about jussi01 "doing it for me" too....
[17:31] <Pici> what
[17:32] <Pici> lies
[19:03] <niko> mode/#ubuntu [-q ubottu!*@*] by FloodBot2
[19:03] <niko> bot wins each time
[19:07] <Myrtti> @login
[19:07] <Myrtti> @btlogin
[19:27] <Myrtti> that would have been an op of #xubuntu
[19:42] <Myrtti> hm
[19:43] <Myrtti> didn't we just ban aliendk the other day
[22:13] <Myrtti> we've got an onjoin spammer again?
[22:17] <ikonia> where ?
[22:18] <Myrtti> hold on
[22:18] <Myrtti> su|marketing has been sending some onjoin spam earlier
[22:18] <Myrtti> Su|Marketing<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[22:19] <Myrtti> and didn't I just see mama21mam in #freenode, also requesting a cloak for someone else
[22:19] <ikonia> don't see anything now


[00:39] <maxolasersquad_h> unpapa
[02:43] <zoopster> maxolasersquad: I can intro you to the ARB
[02:44] <zoopster> maxolasersquad: shoot me your email to my john.pugh at c.c addr and i'll get you noticed
[03:02] <govatent> itnet7: ping
[04:11] <Wonnenangshonat> Hello
[04:49] <maxolasersquad_h> Wonnenangshonat: Hola
[05:00] <govatent> hello
[05:42] <Wonnenangshonat> Hello maxolasersquad
[05:42] <Wonnenangshonat> how are you
[05:43] <maxolasersquad_h> Wonnenangshonat: Very tired and ready for bed.
[05:50] <maxolasersquad_h> Created http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tallahassee and made all these edits http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/maxolasersquad/edits
[05:50] <maxolasersquad_h> And now I'm off to bed.
[16:07] <zus> hello everyone, Happy Christmas!
[16:08] <zus> (Right i can say?, i mean i cant tell if its christmas since its 74DEGREES!)
[16:18] <zoopster> christmas in florida...love it.
[16:18] <zoopster> anyone care to fire up the software center, go to buy a app, and tell me if they see paypal as a purchase option?
[16:19] <zus> i dont mind  but as i have no money is there a back out option?
[16:33] <zoopster> don't need to buy...just see if it's an option
[16:33] <maxolasersquad> zoopster: It is an option.
[16:34] <zoopster> cool
[16:34] <zoopster> thanks maxolasersquad
[16:34] <zoopster> maxolasersquad: made intro to allison...let's see where that takes you
[16:35] <maxolasersquad> Saw it, thanks.
[16:35] <maxolasersquad> Is Google checkout in the works by any chance?
[16:35] <DammitJim> has anyone seen the Fairchild Oak Tree in Bulow Creek State Park?
[16:36] <maxolasersquad> zoopster: Once you are into processing the payment, backing out isn't so easy.
[16:36] <maxolasersquad> Once you select PayPal there is no cancel button to back out before actually making the purchase.
[16:38] <zus> does anyone use teamspeak3?
[16:39] <zus> there is a Linux Distro Community server everyone is welcome to come and use
[16:39] <zus> http://linuxdistroteamspeakcommunity.blogspot.com/  even has a linux installer from the blog
[16:42] <zus> - actually  IF anyone does join me in ts3 and uses the installer let me know how that worked out. (so far its worked  on various ubuntu distros  )
[16:56] <zoopster> maxolasersquad: we won't see other payment options anytime soon
[16:56] <zoopster> maxolasersquad: I just closed the window  and never proceeded to pay once I saw paypal was an option
[17:01] <maxolasersquad> zoopster: That's what I did as well.
[17:03] <maxolasersquad> It just felt like a clumsy solution.
[19:33] <maxolasersquad> What's that command you can run where it will tell you what package an application is from by clicking on it?
[19:33] <maxolasersquad> I'm trying to report a bug, and I'm not exactly sure which application this window belongs to.
[19:37] <zoopster> dlocate?
[19:37] <zoopster> dpkg -S <string> ?
[19:46] <maxolasersquad> zoopster: When the command is run, the cursor becomes a crosshair, and when you click on something a dialogue box gives you information about it, I think it would give you the PID.
[19:48] <maxolasersquad> When I try to print to the printer on our Samba network it always asks me for my credentials after a log in.  I always click "Remember Password" but it forgets it upon log out.
[19:48] <maxolasersquad> Would that be Seahorse?
[19:48] <maxolasersquad> Seahorse remembers all my other credentials just fine.
[19:49] <zoopster> ah
[19:49] <zoopster> cool
[21:10] <mhall119> maxolasersquad: xprop?
[21:43] <maxolasersquad> mhall119: That's it!  Thanks.
[23:52] <maxolasersquad> What's the best bet for using MySQL with Python3?


[12:15] <Laney> tumbleweed: highvoltage: congrats!
[12:36] <highvoltage> Laney: thanks! hope to see you here!
[12:36] <Laney> me too :-)


[07:59] <Rezwan> !test
[07:59] <lubotu2`> Testing... Testing... 1. 2.. 3... ( by the way, remember that you can use #test )


[06:08] <pavlushka> Morning ZA!
[06:08] <Kilos> morning everyboby
[06:57] <paddatrapper> Morning Kilos, pavlushka, everyone
[07:04] <Kilos> hi paddatrapper
[07:53] <pavlushka> paddatrapper: Hello and how are you?
[07:53] <paddatrapper> pavlushka: I'm good thanks. You?
[07:54] <pavlushka> paddatrapper: wow, me too, :)
[09:15] <ra1v3n> hello
[09:28] <paddatrapper> Hey ra1v3n
[09:28] <ra1v3n> hello paddatrapper
[09:29] <paddatrapper> How are you doing?
[09:37] <ra1v3n> Im good ... if somewhat cold
[09:38] <Kilos> hi ra1v3n
[09:38] <ra1v3n> how are you
[09:38] <ra1v3n> Hi kilos
[09:38] <Kilos> ok
[09:38] <Kilos> winter is made for penguins
[09:38] <ra1v3n> lol
[09:39] <Kilos> ill be in and out today, trying to find sheep shears
[09:39] <ra1v3n> haha
[09:39] <Kilos> then some work ahead
[09:39] <ra1v3n> yeah I have to log off in a bit ... have to work
[09:41] <Kilos> well at least you didnt forget where we are
[09:41] <ra1v3n> nope Ive added you guys to autojoin
[09:48] <Kilos> good man
[11:52] <Squirm> Mornin'
[11:52] <Squirm> Has anyone here had much experience with AWS Lambda ?
[12:24] <Squirm> I'm trying to get ssh into a box using paramiko, but it's not working. It essentially boils down to
[12:24] <Squirm> ["/var/task/cryptography/hazmat/primitives/constant_time.py", 9, "<module>", "from cryptography.hazmat.bindings._constant_time import lib"]], "errorType": "ImportError", "errorMessage": "/var/task/cryptography/hazmat/bindings/_constant_time.so: invalid ELF header"}
[12:25] <Squirm> Same issue this guy is having
[12:25] <Squirm> https://forums.aws.amazon.com/thread.jspa?messageID=732381&#732381
[14:40] <Kilos> hmm...
[15:19] <Kilos> Maaz forecast pretoria
[15:20] <Maaz> Kilos: Sunday: Rain. High: 19° C., Sunday Night: Partly Cloudy. Low: 7° C., Monday: Chance of a Thunderstorm. High: 18° C., Monday Night: Rain. Low: 8° C., Tuesday: Thunderstorm. High: 16° C., Tuesday Night: Chance of a Thunderstorm. Low: 5° C., Wednesday: Clear. High: 15° C., Wednesday Night: Clear. Low: 2° C., Thursday: Clear. High: 17° C., Thursday
[15:20] <Maaz> Night: Clear. Low: 3° C., Friday: Clear. High: 18° C., Friday Night: Clear.
[17:28] <Kilos> lol
[17:29] <Ra1v3n> 8o
[17:29] <kulelu88> programming channel?
[17:29] <Ra1v3n> nope
[17:30] <kulelu88> ubuntu?
[17:30] <Kilos> its your choice where you socialise
[17:30] <Ra1v3n> different server
[17:30] <SEptic> we cant help it that we're cooler
[17:31] <Kilos> hehe
[17:31] <kulelu88> with l33t speak, you guys must be arch guys
[17:31] <Ra1v3n> I'm considered Neurologically atypical.
[17:31] <nsnzero> SEptic: where did you get the hdd cage for the cd rom tray slot ?
[17:32] <SEptic> 9.5mm i bummed of takealot
[17:32] <Kilos> they are expensive those things
[17:32] <Ra1v3n> takealot
[17:32] <SEptic> 13.7mm i bought for r50 from some ebay japan dude
[17:32] <Ra1v3n> love that place
[17:33] <nsnzero> thanks - seen alot on ebay - but no delivery to SA
[17:34] <Ra1v3n> alot of places refuse to deliver to SA
[17:34] <Ra1v3n> thanx to our amazing postal service
[17:34] <SEptic> yea, like amazon
[17:34] <kulelu88> that's not the only reason
[17:34] <SEptic> we still have a postal service?
[17:34] <SEptic> :P
[17:34] <Ra1v3n> lmao
[17:34] <Ra1v3n> point taken
[17:35] <SEptic> last time i went to the post office, queues out the door ... for banking
[17:35] <SEptic> who the f banks at a post office?
[17:36] <SEptic> its like ordering a toasted ham & cheese from a hairdresser
[17:36] <kulelu88> the poor SEptic
[17:36] <SEptic> rofl
[17:39] <nsnzero> alternative - buy a 2.5" external and prestik it into the cd rom slot - with a custom flat usb connector - that should work
[17:43] <SEptic> http://www.takealot.com/orico-9mm-sata-to-sata-hdd-caddy-and-notebok/PLID41711324
[17:43] <SEptic> http://www.takealot.com/aluminum-universal-sata-2nd-hdd-caddy-12-7-mm-hard-drive-enclosu/PLID40903154
[17:47] <nsnzero> thanks - it will look much neater - than my ghetto installation
[17:48] <MaNI> Ra1v3n> alot of places refuse to deliver to SA
[17:48] <MaNI> I recently stumbled upon the solution to that - shipito.com or myus.com - bonus it's cheaper than shipping directly from most websites anyway
[17:49] <Ra1v3n> oooooh! ah!
[17:50] <nsnzero> good night guys - i down with the flu  - need to take my medication and sleep
[17:50] <Kilos> sleep tight nsnzero
[17:50] <Kilos> keep warm
[17:51] <SEptic> MaNI ... just changed my life
[17:51] <MaNI> Got my first order via shipito coming in via aramex soon, on an item coming from amazon that they wouldn't sell to me on my za address - $18 shipping, if I bought it direct from the manufacturers website (only other options I had) they wanted to charge $150 shipping, crazy stuff
[17:51] <SEptic> :O
[17:52] <inetpro> yay! We have power again...
[17:52] <kulelu88> MaNI: is that a wholesale shipping company?
[17:52] <Kilos> yay inetpro
[17:53] <MaNI> not really wholesale - I mean you can ship single items
[17:53] <MaNI> 'freight forwarding' is what it's called
[17:53] <kulelu88> MaNI: so they make it cheaper by loading full containers of random items ?
[17:54] <MaNI> nope
[17:54] <MaNI> they ship still via e.g. UPS or aramex or whatever
[17:54] <kulelu88> I'm trying to understand why it is 18 and 150
[17:54]  * superfly just bought an s-video to vga converter from eBay. R23 including shipping
[17:54] <MaNI> mostly because they don't rip you off and are a bit more experienced at shipping
[17:55] <MaNI> a lot of manufacturers don't really like shipping to foreign countries, so they ship via the wrong option - which ends up being overpriced
[17:56] <MaNI> kulelu88, they do have an option though where you can e.g. order from 5 different places over a period of weeks, they will collect it all and then combine it and send all at once (which would give further savings)
[17:56] <kulelu88> MaNI: but you still have to pay duties on everything right?
[17:56] <MaNI> need to pay a yearly subscription for that service though so would have to order quite a bit to make it worthwhile
[17:57] <MaNI> yeah duties etc. still apply of course
[17:57] <kulelu88> MaNI: why not share 1 account with lots of guys importing and split the subscription?
[17:57] <kulelu88> unless it's like 10 dollars a years
[17:57] <kulelu88> *year
[17:57] <Ra1v3n> Thank You Mani!
[17:57] <inetpro> superfly: what do you do with a s-video to vga converter?
[17:57] <MaNI> buying locally is still often better if you can - but I seem to relatively often run into stuff that I just can't get locally - and then to top it off amazon won't even ship it here - so for me this is an amazing find
[17:58] <inetpro> R23 including shipping is ridiculously cheap
[17:58] <kulelu88> MaNI: I was once looking to replace my CD-drive on the laptop with a SSD-tray, couldn't find it in SA :D
[17:58] <MaNI> kulelu88, a good question indeed, I thought about it myself as well, and I couldn't really think of a good reason other than "I don't really know many other people who order things from overseas" heh
[17:59] <kulelu88> MaNI: the first type of person that comes to mind is the hardware-hackers
[17:59] <Ra1v3n> Well I ordered a peripheral from China some time ago and waited 3 months for it to arrive.
[18:00] <Ra1v3n> Ive orderd nothing from the USA, because all the options seemed dodgy or too expensive, and ofcourse Amazon does not ship directly to SA
[18:01] <kulelu88> MaNI: I've also been interested in buying 5 of these: https://www.pine64.com/product
[18:03] <superfly> inetpro: use it for a chip
[18:03] <superfly> inetpro: http://getchip.com
[18:04] <MaNI> the item I'm bring in now is this - http://www.mini-box.com/M4-ATX-HV?sc=8&category=981 - it's my first 'test order' with shipito so I'll let you know how it goes
[18:04] <MaNI> but given it's already with aramex and the tracking is going fine I can't imagine there will be issues
[18:04] <inetpro> superfly: so has it arrived?
[18:05] <MaNI> the pine64 thing looks interesting to play with
[18:06] <kulelu88> I know MaNI . A cheap computing cluster of sorts
[18:06] <SEptic> .................. https://getchip.com/pages/chip    literally BANANA FOR SCALE
[18:07] <SEptic> omg ROFL
[18:07] <SEptic> super awesome though
[18:08] <kulelu88> looks like they're all dealing with small computing boards
[18:14] <SEptic> very interesting
[18:17] <superfly> inetpro: nope, just ordered it now. should arrive late August/early September
[18:20] <superfly> SEptic: http://imgur.com/a/hnTDF
[18:21] <SEptic> :') its beautiful
[18:21] <SEptic> hehehehe
[18:23] <SEptic> i love seeing designers hide stuff on PCBs etc
[18:23] <superfly> It has wifi, 512M ram, and I think a 4 or 8G nand flash. comes with debian pre-installed
[18:23] <SEptic> i hide the chrome 'no internet' dinosaur on my PCBs
[18:24] <SEptic> dang, pre-installed
[18:28] <Kilos> night all. sleep tight
[18:28] <Ra1v3n> gnyt Kilos
[18:50] <Ra1v3n> goodnight all
[18:53] <theblazehen> I am _not_ a fan of selinux :(
[18:57] <inetpro> superfly: very interesting
[19:04] <SEptic> sheesh, the wiki on selinux
[19:04] <SEptic> what you using that for?
[19:13] <Sicelo> 19:48 < MaNI> I recently stumbled upon the solution to that - shipito.com or myus.com - bonus it's cheaper than shipping directly from most websites anyway <[19:14] <Sicelo> ah, not going to help much for package from China :-/
[19:15] <theblazehen> SEptic: Well, I was trying not to use it
[19:16] <theblazehen> But the bootloader on samsung phones doesn't respect your custom kernel command line
[19:16] <theblazehen> So I would need to recompile to disable it
[19:16] <theblazehen> So now I have to manually `adb shell` and run a command, rather than having it done with init script
[19:17] <theblazehen> And android has an _interesting_ init system... :(
[19:19] <Sicelo> what is your final goal?
[19:19] <SEptic> sheesh thats hectic
[19:26] <MaNI> Sicelo, yeah I'm on the look out for a similar thing for china
[19:26] <Sicelo> theblazehen: what are you hoping to achieve on that phone/kernel?
[19:26] <theblazehen> The display is broken
[19:26] <theblazehen> So wanted to do something useful
[19:26] <theblazehen> And android userland sucks
[19:26] <MaNI> if you happen to find one let me know :p
[19:26] <theblazehen> Then I tried to build ubuntu touch, but with a newer kernel
[19:26] <theblazehen> Ended up getting gentoo in a chroot now
[19:26] <Sicelo> MaNI: please keep me in the loop. am checking too
[19:26] <theblazehen> Sicelo: Basically have it as a mini server kinda thing
[19:27] <Sicelo> theblazehen: awesome. which samsung is it?
[19:27] <theblazehen> Might build just the kernel later, then I can run lxd, but on gentoo
[19:27] <theblazehen> Sicelo: note 2
[19:30] <Sicelo> nice specs, ample RAM :)
[19:31] <theblazehen> Yeah :)
[19:34] <kulelu88> does anybody know how telkom call plans work?
[19:48] <kulelu88> wow, this is insane
[20:19] <inetpro> kulelu88: what is insane?
[20:19] <kulelu88> my internet tonight
[20:20] <inetpro> ah
[20:20] <Sicelo> which ISP kulelu88?
[20:20] <inetpro> time to call it a day...
[20:20] <inetpro> good night
[20:21] <Sicelo> one of my SIM cards is FNB Connect - terrible Internet experience on that ... have essentially given up on ever using the data in it
[20:22] <kulelu88> nah it's not the ISP. it's the speed. I need to bump it up cause it's too slow for our usage these days
[20:23] <Sicelo> okay.