[11:19] <noteventime> Irvine: Have you installed it?
[11:19] <Irvine> yeah
[11:19] <noteventime> from apt-get/adept?
[11:20] <Irvine> ok
[11:20] <noteventime> ?
[11:20] <noteventime> It was a question :)
[11:20] <Irvine> i install it by apt-get
[11:20] <noteventime> good
[11:20] <noteventime> now start system settings
[11:21] <Dreamstar> _vincent: it depends on how ur writer is burnfree or not
[11:21] <Irvine> ok
[11:21] <noteventime> now go to appearence
[11:21] <Dreamstar> _vincent: i have an old LG 32x10x40x and i use k3b at 32x with no prob at all
[11:21] <Irvine> ok
[11:22] <noteventime> irvine: now go into style
[11:22] <noteventime> Found it?
[11:22] <Irvine> yes
[11:23] <noteventime> In the widget style menu choose baghira
[11:23] <tameritoke> Hey people... why do you you make the wiki under SSL?
[11:23] <Irvine> ok
[11:23] <noteventime> now press apply
[11:24] <noteventime> but dont close the window
[11:24] <noteventime> Everything working till now?
[11:24] <Irvine> yes
[11:24] <noteventime> Now go to window decoratipon
[11:25] <noteventime> in the dropdown menu choose baghira
[11:25] <noteventime> Then press apply
[11:26] <noteventime> Irvine: Looking good? :)
[11:27] <Irvine> yes
[11:27] <noteventime> There are some ways to get more appleish look
[11:28] <noteventime> There is a guide on the webpage, do you want me to send you the link?
[11:28] <Irvine> yeah
[11:28] <pulver> noteventime: thanks for the repo.. still don't get why the pkgs are held back when trying to upgrade them...
[11:29] <noteventime> pulver: Thats strange :/
[11:29] <noteventime> irvine: http://baghira.sourceforge.net/OS_Clone-en.php
[11:29] <noteventime> pulver, lets see....
[11:29] <noteventime> pulver: Would you mind upgrading to dapper drake?
[11:30] <Irvine> noteventime: need to download xorg?
[11:30] <noteventime> irvine: no, you don't have to install enythiing
[11:30] <noteventime> irvine: It's all installed already :), skip down to the configuration part
[11:32] <pulver> hehe.. yea maybe thats the way to go
[11:33] <Irvine> where is CAT configuration?
[11:33] <noteventime> pulver: It's easy, only change breezy to dapper and remove the repo i gave you
[11:34] <Irvine> noteventime: how?
[11:34] <noteventime> irvine: configuring the cat, apple baghira, i think :P
[11:34] <noteventime> irvine let me see
[11:35] <noteventime> irvine: start "Step 2: I want a Mac OS X like menubar!"
[11:35] <noteventime> All above isn't needed
[11:35] <_tim> hi all has anyone had trouble connecting to yahoo via kopete?
[11:36] <pulver> noteventime: ok yea will do in a min.. after freeing some hdd space :)
[11:36] <noteventime> pulver: I can send pastebin my sources.list so you can get the new amaroK too
[11:36] <Dreamstar> noteventime: sry do u know how to locate where something has been installed?
[11:37] <noteventime> Dreamstar: Either press details in adept
[11:37] <pulver> noteventime: what's that?
[11:37] <Dreamstar> well the package isn't displayed as installed in adept or synaptic :S
[11:37] <noteventime> or locate -u (creates a database of all your files) then locate WHAT_EVER_YOU_WANT_TO_FIND
[11:37] <Dreamstar> ok i'll use the second way, thx :D
[11:37] <noteventime> pulver: The best music player availible to man kind :)
[11:38] <noteventime> Dreamstar: Np
[11:38] <Dreamstar> lol :D
[11:38] <noteventime> The only player availible even remotely as good as amaroK is bansee
[11:38] <pulver> noteventime: lol so it plays music thats great
[11:39] <Irvine> noteventime: how to change amarok themes?
[11:39] <noteventime> Irvine: Its in the options menu :)
[11:39] <noteventime> Irvine: I'll take a closer look
[11:40] <noteventime> Irvine: Settings->configure amaroK->appearence->install theme
[11:40] <noteventime> !pastebin
[11:40] <ubotu> methinks pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org - Install webboard for easy pasting from the gnome taskbar :)
[11:41] <Dreamstar> mmmmm---with locate it seems i have not superkaramba but it still start from the K menu! strange...
[11:42] <Irvine> noteventime: thanks
[11:42] <noteventime> Dreamstar: you did make install right?
[11:42] <noteventime> Irvine: np
[11:42] <Dreamstar> yep noteventime
[11:42] <noteventime> pulver: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9298 <- thats my config, it uses swedish mirrors, mostly
[11:42] <Irvine> noteventime: is there any file sharing program for linux?
[11:43] <pulver> watching the screenshots amarok looks pretty cool
[11:43] <Dreamstar> i'll try restarting the system...brb
[11:43] <pulver> noteventime: ok ty
[11:43] <noteventime> Irvine: sure, bittorrent dc++ and frostwire
[11:43] <noteventime> pulver: frostwire uses the limewire network
[11:44] <noteventime> !register
[11:44] <ubotu> register is, like, type /msg nickserv help register (you probably should do this in the server window so that if you mess up you won't reveal your password to the whole channel :))
[11:45] <noteventime> Irvine: bittorrent it the best bet for larger things, while frostwire is nice for small things
[11:45] <Irvine> how to install frostwire?
[11:46] <noteventime> sudo apt-get install frostwire
[11:46] <raphink> Irvine: there is one way to install stuff on Ubuntu
[11:46] <raphink> well one way to install them easily
[11:46] <raphink> ;)
[11:46] <Irvine> how?
[11:47] <raphink> apt-get
[11:47] <raphink> once you know that, you don't really have to wonder how to install stuff
[11:47] <raphink> Irvine: as noteventime told you
[11:47] <Irvine> Couldn't find package frostwire
[11:47] <raphink> hmm
[11:47] <noteventime> hmmm
[11:47] <raphink> yeah, frostwire is not in ubuntu :p
[11:47] <Hentai^XP> you mean the repos ro w] e?
[11:47] <noteventime> Ahhhh i think its in universe
[11:48] <raphink> what is it btw?
[11:48] <samoura> noteventime
[11:48] <Hentai^XP> by the way
[11:48] <samoura> :) hI
[11:48] <Hentai^XP> BTW
[11:48] <pulver> noteventime: swedish mirrors for universe,multiverse.. do they have all the apps available?
[11:48] <noteventime> samoura: 'ello
[11:48] <samoura> #samoura and help me please ;(
[11:48] <samoura> what zup
[11:48] <noteventime> pulver: Yes
[11:48] <Hentai^XP> oh nm raphink lol thought you asked "what is btw"
[11:48] <raphink> Hentai^XP: :p
[11:48] <Hentai^XP> got a new computer!
[11:48] <pulver> noteventime: nice
[11:49] <raphink> hmmm
[11:49] <raphink> frostwire looks like yet another amule clone
[11:49] <noteventime> pulver: I've had problems with one mirror, i changed it to german
[11:49] <samoura> TUPAC shakur is alive :D
[11:49] <raphink> emule
[11:49] <noteventime> frostwire is limewire
[11:49] <noteventime> gnutella
[11:49] <Irvine> emule slow
[11:50] <arrinmurr> Irvine: download, unpack, run "java -jar FrostWire.jar". but first you need java if you don't have it already - http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/frostwire/FrostWire-4.10.9-1-AnyOS.zip?download
[11:50] <pulver> noteventime: ok
[11:50] <raphink> Irvine: if you want frostwire in Ubuntu, you can add it here : https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Packages/Candidates
[11:50] <Irvine> raphink: how to add it?
[11:51] <raphink> Irvine: this is a wiki ... you edit the page, you write a line for frostwire the way other lines are written, and you save
[11:51] <djib> hey
[11:51] <Irvine> i download frostwire packages for ubuntu
[11:52] <Dreamstar> mmmm it stills run superkaramba even if it looks i don't have it on my pc O__O
[11:52] <djib> Is there a bandwidth monitor for Kubuntu ?
[11:52] <freeflying> raphink: I think this page need impovement, then we can know package is in which status
[11:52] <Irvine> i downloaded frostwire package for ubuntu
[11:52] <raphink> freeflying: you're welcome to improve it :)
[11:52] <Irvine> now how to install it?
[11:52] <raphink> Irvine: then you run sudo dpkg -i thenameofyourfile.deb
[11:52] <samoura> is there a utorrent for linux :P i want it
[11:52] <samoura> ?
[11:53] <djib> or a command in konsole to type and get the size of my transfers for the last few hours ?
[11:53] <freeflying> raphink: or merge this into lauchpad , it will be more easier for the guy prepare to package
[11:54] <raphink> freeflying: that would be called RFPs then
[11:54] <raphink> freeflying: or ITPs ;)
[11:54] <raphink> freeflying: we'll have to get to that if Ubuntu keeps growing imo though
[11:54] <raphink> so we'll end up with (Closes : Malone #XXXXX) changelogs on REVU soon enough ;)
[11:57] <raphink> freeflying: given the huge number of requests on the page, it could be interesting to introduce the need for RFPs at next TB maybe
[11:58] <noteventime> pulver: Is it working out for you?
[11:59] <Dreamstar> anybody knows if XEN can create even windoze virtual images?
[11:59] <Hobbsee> raphink: RFP?
[12:00] <raphink> Hobbsee: well taht's what this page is about
[12:00] <Hobbsee> ah
[12:01] <raphink> Hobbsee: well this is a list of candidates for universe
[12:02] <raphink> Hobbsee: in other words : programs users want to have in Ubuntu
[12:02] <Hobbsee> oh, that page, right, yes
[12:02] <raphink> Hobbsee: if they were dealt with on LP, it would be logical to use RFPs for these
[12:02] <Hobbsee> true
[12:03] <voicu> i got kde 3.5.1 off the net and when i run make i get errors like "file abc.o not found". how can this be? (configure worked all right)
[12:03] <raphink> Hobbsee: so if there comes to be too many requests that'll be the easiest way
[12:03] <Hobbsee> true
[12:03] <raphink> voicu: why would you compile it ?
[12:03] <noteventime> voicu: Why not get it from the repos?
[12:04] <pulver> noteventime: it is :) downloading/upgrading "the stuff" hopefully it wont break but dont mind its fun anyway.. ty for your help
[12:04] <noteventime> pulver: NP, worked without any problems for me
[12:04] <voicu> last time i did that i got it from the repos i messed up the system
[12:04] <raphink> voicu: you're gonna mess up your system much more by compiling it imho
[12:04] <voicu> so i tried to compile it
[12:05] <raphink> voicu: especially if you're already not able to compile it yourself
[12:05] <raphink> if you compile kde on your system and install it, apt-get will lose the track of the existence of these files
[12:05] <raphink> so you won't control anything in kde through apt-get anymore
[12:05] <raphink> you better be really good to do that ;)
[12:05] <voicu> i know... the thing is that it worked yesterday and now it doesn't
[12:05] <noteventime> apt-get everything and use deb packages for everything else: )
[12:05] <voicu> i use checkinstall to keep track of what i install
[12:06] <raphink> and given that kde is very easy to compile and you failed, I'm pretty sure you should use the binary packages
[12:06] <raphink> you use checkinstall on KDE ???
[12:06] <voicu> why not?
[12:06] <raphink> I can't imagine the mess you get with that ;)
[12:07] <raphink> especialy that it will create packages with totally differrent names as the ones we have officially
[12:07] <raphink> so you'll just prevent your computer from ever upgrading KDE
[12:07] <voicu> hmm, nobody said that when they suggested it to me
[12:07] <raphink> voicu: who suggested you to use checkinstall on KDE?
[12:07] <raphink> I mean to compile KDE and use checkinstall
[12:08] <voicu> i don't know, someone on irc
[12:08] <raphink> voicu: whoever did that surely doesn't know much about KDE packages in Debian/Ubuntu systems
[12:08] <raphink> imo you're pretty sure to break everything on your system with that
[12:08] <voicu> when i asked about how to uninstall stuff
[12:08] <raphink> so that to upgrade to next official KDE or Ubuntu
[12:08] <raphink> you'll need to deinstall all your checkinstall KDE stuff manually
[12:08] <raphink> one by one
[12:09] <raphink> and install the official packages again
[12:09] <voicu> ok, great :P
[12:09] <raphink> voicu: really, I will never advise anyone but a developer to install KDE by compiling
[12:09] <raphink> unless you want to have fun
[12:09] <noteventime> voicu: Upgrade to dapper drake :)
[12:09] <raphink> or you are running a slack
[12:09] <Chousuke> raphink: unless he's a gentoo user
[12:10] <raphink> Chousuke: no, a slack user
[12:10] <raphink> Chousuke: gentoo users don't build from tar.gz
[12:10] <voicu> oh, right, i forgot... the idea was to install two versions of kde on the same computer
[12:10] <Chousuke> well, they do
[12:10] <Chousuke> but it's automated
[12:10] <voicu> all this trouble made me forget the main purpose :P
[12:10] <Chousuke> I wanted to install some KDE apps on my system but funk doesn't work ;p
[12:10] <Chousuke> fink*
[12:10] <dwkr> hi
[12:11] <raphink> Chousuke: you're on MacOS?
[12:11] <raphink> hi dwkr
[12:11] <dwkr> i need some help
[12:11] <Chousuke> raphink: yes.
[12:11] <raphink> voicu: do you want a working system, upgradable and all? or are you just playing around ?
[12:11] <noteventime> dwkr: Just ask, don't ask about asking :D
[12:11] <freeflying> Chousuke: what's u meant "fink dosen't work"
[12:11] <Chousuke> freeflying: it fails
[12:12] <raphink> Chousuke: ah! I had it work pretty well some time ago
[12:12] <Chousuke> it fails at building python :/
[12:12] <voicu> raphink: well, i wanted to install kde 3.5.1 and keep kde 3.4.0 too. if i like the new one i'll keep it and forget 3.4
[12:12] <dwkr> i have just finished to put dapper drake but at xorg configuration the sreen start corrupt
[12:12] <raphink> voicu: and how do you plan to do that?
[12:13] <raphink> voicu: why, tell me, don't you use Kubuntu Dapper Flight 4 to test kde 3.5.1 on live CD ?
[12:13] <dwkr> so i dont know what i have put for root password
[12:13] <voicu> by installing kde 3.5.1 in a different directory and i can't do that by installing packages, right?
[12:13] <raphink> voicu: instead of bugging your system like this
[12:13] <voicu> i wanted to see if i'm able to do it
[12:14] <raphink> voicu: if you want to try out kde 3.5.1, why don't you use a live CD ?
[12:14] <raphink> voicu: oh right ;)
[12:14] <raphink> well then fine
[12:14] <raphink> do it :)
[12:14] <Chousuke> installing KDE from sources is a painful process.
[12:14] <dwkr> how do i change/remove root password, but i dont have the old one
[12:14] <raphink> Chousuke: no, its not, it's just very long
[12:14] <Chousuke> raphink: yes, that's what I meant ;P
[12:14] <raphink> dwkr: do you have a root password already?
[12:14] <noteventime> dwkr: if you havn't created one yes, sudo passwd root
[12:14] <Chousuke> and if it fails, you'll be pissed.
[12:14] <dwkr> sure but i dont know it
[12:15] <raphink> Chousuke: hehe yes
[12:15] <voicu> the thing is that make doesn't find some files. i didn't change anything in the sources. how can that happen?
[12:15] <Chousuke> raphink: and remember that he will have to resolve any dependencies manually too
[12:15] <dwkr> ok noteventime i trie that
[12:15] <raphink> dwkr: how do you know you've got one ?
[12:15] <raphink> voicu: what do you use to compile kde ?
[12:15] <dwkr> just press enter fo the reste of installation but dont know what 've do
[12:15] <raphink> Chousuke: yes, I know that, thats' what I said : he''s going to bug his system entirely
[12:16] <raphink> dwkr: did you install in expert mode?
[12:16] <Chousuke> raphink: it's possible to do cleanly too
[12:16] <voicu> i have gcc3.3, g++ 3.3, automake 1.9 and all the dependant packages
[12:16] <dwkr> passwd: password updated successfully
[12:16] <Chousuke> just install to /usr/local/
[12:16] <dwkr> no normal mode
[12:16] <noteventime> yo kitsch :)
[12:16] <dwkr> it seem i dont have one before :p
[12:16] <raphink> dwkr: then you had no root password so far, and it would have probably been better to keep none
[12:16] <voicu> raphink: if configure works, why does make give me errors?
[12:16] <raphink> by default you have no root password, adn that's how it's meant to be
[12:17] <dwkr> thanks
[12:17] <raphink> voicu: because you might miss some dependencies I guess
[12:17] <dwkr> i have one now
[12:17] <raphink> voicu: many times, configure works and make fails ;)
[12:17] <raphink> voicu: tens of times a day I'm afraid I get configure scrits that are happy with everything, and make fails
[12:17] <raphink> pff
[12:18] <voicu> raphink: ok, that seems a nasty job trying to get all the dependencies
[12:18] <raphink> noteventime: imo it's better to explain users why they don't have a root password and how to use sudo ...
[12:18] <dwkr> damn adept not working
[12:18] <voicu> i guess i'll leave it alone :P
[12:18] <raphink> voicu: it's a horrible job. Ask Riddell about it ;)
[12:19] <raphink> dwkr: adept won't be working with your root password
[12:19] <noteventime> raphink: I always think they already know but need su for some reason :)
[12:19] <raphink> noteventime: ask before thinking this
[12:19] <raphink> s/thinking/assuming/
[12:19] <noteventime> raphink: Yes, i know i should have :P
[12:19] <raphink> ;)
[12:19] <dwkr> raphink: it doesnt load anything
[12:19] <dwkr> it doesnt ask any password
[12:20] <raphink> voicu: you'll need to set your kde paths manually, too
[12:20] <noteventime> dwkr: Do you know how to use sudo?
[12:20] <dwkr> yeah
[12:20] <dwkr> sudo command :p
[12:20] <raphink> hhmpf
[12:20] <dwkr> type password
[12:20] <raphink> why would you need a root account dwkr ?
[12:20] <noteventime> dwkr: Your better of using sudo, only use su if you realy need to
[12:20] <voicu> raphink: that i managed, thankfully
[12:21] <noteventime> You need an root account to install crossoveroffice
[12:21] <raphink> ah
[12:21] <dwkr> adept asked me root password
[12:22] <noteventime> You use your own :)
[12:22] <noteventime> it uses sudo :)
[12:22] <raphink> dwkr: adept asks your own password, using kdesu (equ. of sudo)
[12:22] <raphink> noteventime: s/sudo/kdesu/ this is very differnt although the result is the same
[12:23] <raphink> noteventime: kdesu is not sudo, it asks for your own password, but makes you root (like user root) whereas sudo doesn't make you root but only gives you root rights
[12:23] <Hobbsee> ok, i think i'm back lol
[12:23] <raphink> Hobbsee: it seems you are
[12:23] <noteventime> raphink: Really, I should have known that when trying to install crossoveroffice
[12:24] <raphink> noteventime: ;)
[12:24] <raphink> noteventime: using sudo -i has quite the same effect, too, imo
[12:24] <Hobbsee> raphink: been having lots of fun with this new kernel freezing, or just plain not booting - now most recently my kopete wouldnt sign in - i just gave up and went to 2.6.15-15-386
[12:24] <raphink> Hobbsee: argh
[12:24] <raphink> the kernel boots fine here, but the comp doesn't shut down ;)
[12:25] <Hobbsee> heh great
[12:25] <Hobbsee> had some of that too - power button works well
[12:25] <raphink> lol
[12:25] <raphink> I think it's kdm again, that doesn't want to be shut down
[12:25] <Hobbsee> ugh
[12:25] <raphink> Hobbsee: yeah sure ;)
[12:25] <raphink> I think I'll be installing DF5 when it comes out
[12:25] <Hobbsee> this is revenge for saying that i wasnt having many bugs, wasnt it!
[12:25] <raphink> or maybe even DF4
[12:26] <raphink> having a brand clean account
[12:26] <raphink> with Tonio's settings :)
[12:27] <Hobbsee> good idea
[12:31] <dwkr> rhaa
[12:34] <tomas_> hello people
[12:34] <noteventime> 'ello
[12:34] <tomas_> is there anyone that can help me with some packeting?
[12:35] <noteventime> :) I'll do my best
[12:35] <Hobbsee> some packeting?
[12:35] <tomas_> :)
[12:35] <tomas_> ah :P
[12:35] <tomas_> i have a package with a depency problem on dapper drake
[12:35] <stoned> I want to run amarok/etc. or other apps which use sound, that are running on laptop, so send thier sound over to the arts server running on desktop.  so that i don't have to keep switching wires.  like all the laptop sound gets to desktop ove the network and comes out of my desktop speakers
[12:35] <tomas_> but there is package in dapper drake that can replace it
[12:35] <tomas_> so i want to go inside the .deb file and change the depency
[12:35] <tomas_> dependency
[12:36] <noteventime> ok
[12:36] <tomas_> do you know how?
[12:37] <noteventime> Open the deb file in ark and take a look :9
[12:37] <tomas_> i have
[12:37] <tomas_> i changed the depency in control also
[12:37] <tomas_> and used dpkg
[12:37] <tomas_> to build the package
[12:37] <tomas_> it worked
[12:37] <raphink> noteventime: now that is a dirty practice
[12:37] <noteventime> :)
[12:37] <raphink> hehe
[12:37] <tomas_> but when i try to install it complains something about rm
[12:37] <tomas_> *-)
[12:38] <noteventime> rm?
[12:38] <tomas_> yes
[12:38] <tomas_> i will try to translate it into english :P
[12:38] <noteventime> raphink: Now I only helped him/her, It was his/her idea :-) I'm compleatly inocent, hehe
[12:38] <raphink> tomas_: paste it as is
[12:38] <raphink> noteventime: yeah yeah
[12:39] <tomas_> raphink: in swedish?
[12:39] <tomas_> raphink: are you sure about that ;)
[12:39] <raphink> tomas_: if you there is a dependency issue in dapper drake, I'd rather you report it to malone so it's fixed officially
[12:39] <raphink> tomas_: ja :)
[12:39] <noteventime> gr s
[12:39] <tomas_> aha
[12:39] <tomas_> s ni r svenskar :P
[12:40] <tomas_> men hjlp
[12:40] <tomas_> vad man ska jobba sig :P
[12:40] <raphink> :)
[12:40] <raphink> noteventime: ah du talar svenska ?
[12:40] <noteventime> Borde ha stt p telia.se
[12:40] <noteventime> raphink: Hehe, tydligen
[12:40] <raphink> hehe :)
[12:40] <Chousuke> Meh.
[12:40] <tomas_> "rmdir" p paketets kontrollinformation "usr" svarade inte "ej katalog": Katalog inte tom
[12:41] <raphink> tomas_: ok go on paste your output
[12:41] <raphink> tomas_: and please reoprt the bug, so everybody benefits from the fix
[12:41] <raphink> tomas_: even even post a patch if you fixed thebug
[12:41] <Chousuke> It's been so long since I studied swedish that I don't even understand all of that ;P
[12:41] <raphink> Chousuke: kind of same here ;)
[12:41] <tomas_> raphink: maybe i should tell you that this deb isnt a part of the repository :p
[12:41] <raphink> tomas_: what deb is it?
[12:42] <Chousuke> tomas_: that's normal then I suppose.
[12:42] <tomas_> raphink: it's called ktechlab and is working in dapper drake (expect that any packager manager removes it due to dependecy problem
[12:42] <raphink> tomas_: do you plan on getting it in Ubuntu?
[12:42] <tomas_> http://ktechlab.org/
[12:42] <Chousuke> tomas_: I've gotten that sometimes. It doesn't really hurt.
[12:43] <tomas_> it just the depency were changed to kdelibs4c2a or whatever it's called it wont complain
[12:43] <tomas_> if
[12:43] <tomas_> dependency
[12:43] <raphink> tomas_: seems like a nice app, you could try to get it in Dapper+1
[12:43] <tomas_> oki
[12:43] <noteventime> tomas_ I had that one too
[12:43] <noteventime> tomas_ I compiled it though
[12:43] <raphink> tomas_: then building it again would b emuch better, if you can find the package sources
[12:43] <tomas_> i will try to look into the .deb once again cause i saw that the data.tar.gz was empty :$
[12:44] <raphink> the dependencies will be updated automatically with your version of the libs
[12:44] <raphink> looking into the deb is dirty
[12:44] <noteventime> hehe
[12:44] <raphink> building it is the way
[12:44] <tomas_> but
[12:44] <noteventime> bad hacks are nice :)
[12:44] <tomas_> i wonder where there aren't any good graphical .deb maniupulator
[12:44] <tomas_> why
[12:44] <raphink> tomas_: because we never work on .deb files
[12:45] <tomas_> =?
[12:45] <tomas_> mkay
[12:45] <raphink> tomas_: we build deb files for installation
[12:45] <noteventime> You create deb files
[12:45] <raphink> but we never edit them
[12:45] <raphink> or quite
[12:45] <raphink> tomas_: when you create an openoffice document
[12:45] <raphink> would you ever try to read and mofidy the binary ?
[12:45] <raphink> that would be stupid
[12:46] <noteventime> :) but geek
[12:46] <tomas_> it would
[12:46] <raphink> noteventime: I make a different between geek practices and useless/stupid ones
[12:46] <tomas_> but .deb isn't oo documents ;)
[12:46] <raphink> tomas_: .deb is binary stuff
[12:46] <tomas_> there are some readable data in .debs
[12:46] <noteventime> raphink: Useless geekish stuff :D
[12:46] <raphink> it contains binary contents
[12:46] <tomas_> okioki
[12:47] <tomas_> back to source then
[12:47] <raphink> tomas_: we work on the sources
[12:47] <tomas_> any good tutorial to do packeting?
[12:47] <raphink> orig.tar.gz, diff.gz and dsc
[12:47] <tomas_> packeting for n00bs
[12:47] <raphink> tomas_: sure, the New Debian Maintainer's Guide
[12:47] <tomas_> i hope its a crash course :p
[12:47] <Hobbsee> lol
[12:48] <Hobbsee> it's certainly comprehensive
[12:48] <tomas_> just what i didnt want to hear :p
[12:48] <raphink> tomas_: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Packages/Packaging/Tips
[12:48] <Hobbsee> hehe
[12:48] <tomas_> does anyone knows the status for libfmod?
[12:48] <tomas_> are we gonna se it soon?
[12:48] <raphink> tomas_: Dapper Drake is in FeatureFreeze
[12:48] <raphink> so if it's not in now, it won't be in 2 months
[12:48] <raphink> ;)
[12:49] <raphink> that's the status
[12:49] <tomas_> if i dont fix it myself then :p
[12:49] <tomas_> motiviation to learn :p
[12:49] <tomas_> vation
[12:49] <raphink> if you want packages in Ubuntu, you get them in ;)
[12:49] <raphink> tomas_: the best way for you to be sure to get ktechlab in  Dapper+1 is to get it in yourself
[12:49] <tomas_> i will see what i can do then :)
[12:49] <tomas_> thank you all for your help :)
[12:49] <tomas_> have a nice day
[12:50] <tomas_> hej d ;)
[12:50] <raphink> tomas_: hand on on #ubuntu-motu for help
[12:50] <raphink> #kubuntu is not for packaging stuff, #ubuntu-motu is
[12:50] <raphink> ;)
[12:50] <tomas_> thank you
[12:50] <tomas_> bye
[12:50] <raphink> hej da, tomas :)
[12:51] <noteventime> Hehe, mnga svenska som anvnder kubuntu XD
[12:53] <raphink> noteventime: hehe
[12:53] <raphink> but french people are already taking it over :p
[12:54] <noteventime> haha
[12:54] <raphink> hehe
[12:55] <raphink> and we have Riddell and dholbach on our side :p
[12:55] <noteventime> i found 5 others
[12:55] <noteventime> by looking at domain
[12:55] <raphink> for what?
[12:55] <raphink> ah?
[12:55] <noteventime> In the user list omn the right
[12:55] <raphink> let's see
[12:56] <noteventime> kitsch and malte
[12:56] <noteventime> are those i remember right now
[12:56] <samoura> is there a boy who is a irc Pro ?
[12:56] <samoura> is there a boy who is a irc Pro ?
[12:57] <raphink> what's the problem samoura ?
[12:57] <noteventime> osh_
[12:57] <raphink> what is it that you want most? a boy or an irc pro?
[12:57] <noteventime> What about a female IRC pro?
[12:58] <Hobbsee> heh
[12:58] <noteventime> awwww is swedish
[12:58] <Hobbsee> noteventime: females dont exist on the internet
[12:58] <noteventime> ahhh
[12:58] <Hobbsee> hehe
[12:58] <noteventime> pulver is awwww
[12:58] <raphink> anyone has seen Hobbsee around?
[12:58] <noteventime> Yes
[12:59] <Hobbsee> raphink: hmmm?
[12:59] <noteventime> :)
[12:59] <raphink> I can't see her
[12:59] <raphink> seems she's disappeared
[12:59] <raphink> doh! females don't exist on the internet
[12:59] <Hobbsee> hehe
[12:59] <yello> hi everyone im having some problems playing dvds has anyon experienced this before?
[12:59] <Hobbsee> of course, yes
[12:59] <Hobbsee> i'm an illusion
[12:59] <raphink> yello yello
[12:59] <yello> sorry to interupt
[12:59] <yello> lol hi
[12:59] <raphink> did you install libdvdread3 and libdvdcss2 yello?
[12:59] <yello> ... no
[01:00] <yello> ill check on adept
[01:00] <raphink> then do
[01:00] <yello> thanks
[01:00] <Hobbsee> raphink: noteventime and whoever else:  http://www.escapistmagazine.com/print/17/27
[01:00] <noteventime> you need to add PLF repos
[01:00] <raphink> you won't find libdvdcss2 on adept though yello
[01:00] <pulver> this dist-upgrade thingy is gonna take all day lol
[01:00] <raphink> noteventime: noooooooooo!
[01:00] <raphink> no plf repo please
[01:00] <noteventime> libdvdcss are in the PLF repos
[01:00] <raphink> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[01:00] <noteventime> haha, you dont like those either?
[01:00] <raphink> libdvdcss can be installed from libdvdread3 with a script
[01:01] <raphink> I don't want users to have plf and then complain about non official debs they can't control
[01:01] <raphink> noteventime: we try to make ubuntu reliable
[01:01] <raphink> using plf doesn't help
[01:01] <yello> ok via terminal
[01:01] <yello> :D
[01:01] <noteventime> raphink: comeon it's like three ppackages
[01:02] <raphink> noteventime: no, it's like a repository in sources.list
[01:02] <noteventime> w32codecs libdvdcss and the sun-jre
[01:02] <yello> it all seems to be working
[01:02] <raphink> yello good
[01:02] <Dreamstar> hei people anybody has fixed the prob with sound configu?
[01:02] <noteventime> you can remove it afterward :)
[01:02] <yello> i had libdvdread
[01:02] <yello> just not the libdvdcss2
[01:02] <raphink> what problem Dreamstar ?
[01:02] <yello> fingers crossed
[01:03] <raphink> yello oh ok
[01:03] <raphink> so you just had to launch the script
[01:03] <Dreamstar> i mean about device being busy for the system sounds so that other app can't use that device
[01:03] <yello> woah
[01:03] <yello> thanks so much
[01:03] <yello> linux is just gettin easier and easier
[01:03] <yello> thanku all so much :D
[01:03] <noteventime> Dreamster: You could tunnel through artsdsp
[01:04] <Dreamstar> artsdsp?how to use it?
[01:04] <noteventime> artsdsp THE_APPLICATION
[01:05] <noteventime> Some apps start throught scripts, and raphink probably won't let me tell you to add artsdsp to the starter script
[01:05] <Dreamstar> so for example i should put "artsdsp" before the calling of the app iin the K menu noteventime?
[01:05] <noteventime> yes
[01:05] <raphink> noteventime: hehe
[01:05] <noteventime> just try it in the termina l first
[01:05] <iwang> helo2
[01:05] <noteventime> to see that it works
[01:05] <raphink> noteventime: I'd so like users to report all the things they find to malone, that would be so helpful
[01:05] <noteventime> iwang: 'ello
[01:05] <iwang> ello
[01:06] <noteventime> Why isn't there a way to make evertthing go through artS :)
[01:06] <Dreamstar> artsdsp is an application? it looks i dont have it
[01:06] <iwang> sumone
[01:06] <iwang> can u help me for mounting drice
[01:06] <iwang> *drive
[01:06] <noteventime> drice?
[01:06] <noteventime> aha
[01:06] <noteventime> sure
[01:06] <iwang> can u pm me
[01:07] <noteventime> Why?
[01:07] <iwang> hehe
[01:07] <iwang> easy to communicate
[01:07] <Dreamstar> damn adept doesnt find artsdsp :(
[01:07] <noteventime> its installed
[01:07] <noteventime> by kde
[01:07] <iwang> actually
[01:07] <Dreamstar> ah ok i'll try so
[01:07] <iwang> i got 3 partition
[01:07] <noteventime> iwang: better do it here so others can se
[01:07] <noteventime> ok
[01:08] <iwang> but rite now only one can be read/open
[01:08] <noteventime> raphink can tell you whats dengerous to do, haha :D
[01:08] <raphink> noteventime: :p
[01:08] <_samoura> noteeventime
[01:08] <raphink> iwang: what are the formats of each of your partitions ?
[01:08] <noteventime> sorry, I just had tp
[01:08] <iwang> ntfs
[01:08] <hatake_kakashi> !tell iwang about ntfs
[01:09] <raphink> iwang: you know you won't be able to write on ntfs, and only be able to read as root
[01:09] <iwang> ntfs for windows rite
[01:09] <raphink> untill you get to Dapper
[01:09] <raphink> iwang: yes
[01:09] <raphink> hatake_kakashi: seems like the bot is off
[01:09] <iwang> how to make is as ext
[01:09] <raphink> ubotu: hello!!!!!!!!!!!
[01:09] <ubotu> Not a clue. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, raphink
[01:09] <hatake_kakashi> raphink: the bot is still there
[01:09] <Dreamstar> noteventime: it didnt work, as i open amarok it's still says that the alsa device is busy :(
[01:09] <raphink> iwang: you remove it and make a new one ;)
[01:09] <raphink> iwang: but windows won't work on ext
[01:09] <hatake_kakashi> iwang: backup data, repartition, format and then put the data back.. that's how I'm planning to do it
[01:10] <noteventime> aha
[01:10] <iwang> its ok
[01:10] <raphink> an option might be install windows on fat32 instead iwang
[01:10] <iwang> im not using windows anymore
[01:10] <noteventime> Dreamstar: amaroK can use artS
[01:10] <hatake_kakashi> raphink: though there is ext2 fs for windows.. which can also do ext3
[01:10] <raphink> hatake_kakashi: dapper's kernel supports ntfs iirc
[01:10] <raphink> that's another option
[01:10] <iwang> how to remove it from terminal
[01:10] <noteventime> go to settings then engine
[01:10] <hatake_kakashi> raphink: though not in rw mode, only ro mode :)
[01:10] <raphink> hatake_kakashi: yes, you can read/write ext on windows, but not boot on it imo
[01:10] <raphink> ah
[01:10] <iwang> ok
[01:11] <iwang> i try go to setting and engine
[01:11] <hatake_kakashi> raphink: ahh yes of course not, windows is dodgy ;)
[01:11] <Dreamstar> well i dont have the arts for amarok, i'll take them from the repos of the beta?
[01:11] <raphink> iwang: use gparted to remove the partitions
[01:11] <noteventime> Dreamster: configure-> amaroK -> engine -> there you probably can choose artS
[01:11] <raphink> or qtparted
[01:11] <iwang> how to use im
[01:11] <iwang> im nooB
[01:11] <raphink> iwang: do you have gparted installed?
[01:11] <Dreamstar> noteventime: i only have gstreamer for amarok
[01:11] <raphink> or qtparted
[01:11] <hatake_kakashi> search for parted HOWTO iwang
[01:12] <noteventime> Dreamster: A few cm down
[01:12] <Dreamstar> ah found it! ok it's working now
[01:12] <noteventime> nice
[01:12] <noteventime> Have fun :)
[01:12] <Dreamstar> and for the other apps instead i can use artsdsp? (skype, teamspeak2 and so on)?
[01:13] <noteventime> Dreamster: mostly yes
[01:13] <Dreamstar> oki thank u sooooooooooo much :)
[01:13] <noteventime> np
[01:14] <raphink> iwang: right?
[01:15] <iwang> yero
[01:15] <iwang> thanks
[01:15] <iwang> done already
[01:15] <iwang> mwach@
[01:15] <raphink> good :)
[01:16] <raphink> well done
[01:18] <iwang> may i know tools like adobe photoshop
[01:19] <raphink> gimp, krita
[01:19] <iwang> izit?
[01:19] <iwang> hurm
[01:19] <iwang> i got trouble with gimp
[01:19] <iwang> hehe
[01:19] <iwang> ok now
[01:19] <raphink> well gimp is maybe the best equivalent to photoship around
[01:20] <iwang> i got sumthing to do
[01:20] <raphink> although krita is getting very good now
[01:20] <iwang> thanks for ur help
[01:20] <raphink> np
[01:20] <iwang> we meet again later
[01:20] <iwang> tha~
[01:20] <raphink> sure
[01:20] <noteventime> Yay i'm back
[01:20] <raphink> and I'm belly
[01:21] <noteventime> Ok
[01:21] <noteventime> Well, thats good for you :D
[01:21] <raphink> hej noteventime :) hur gar dej ?
[01:21] <raphink> hmmpf
[01:21] <noteventime> jodu, bara bra
[01:21] <tomas_> hall igen :p
[01:21] <raphink> :)
[01:22] <noteventime> Hejsan
[01:22] <raphink> ah, welcome back tomas_
[01:22] <tomas_> fick en /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lreadline nr jag gjorde en make, any ideas?
[01:22] <raphink> tomas_: I had a quick look at ktechlab, seems interesting
[01:22] <raphink> and the libs are already in dapper
[01:22] <tomas_> dont try to steal it for me :p
[01:22] <noteventime> Its cool
[01:22] <tomas_> im compiling ;)
[01:22] <tomas_> :P
[01:23] <raphink> tomas_: I won't steal it
[01:23] <raphink> tomas_: just know that it won't get in Ubuntu before dapper+1 though
[01:23] <noteventime> I've used it, didn't get it to use gsimul, or whatever its called, though
[01:23] <tomas_> noteventime: are you running dapper?
[01:23] <noteventime> Yes
[01:23] <tomas_> it works perfectly here for me :)
[01:23] <raphink> :)
[01:23] <tomas_> except that synaptic removes it everytime cause of dependency issues :P
[01:23] <noteventime> Not when I ran ktechlab though
[01:23] <raphink> tomas_: so are you currently packaging ktechlab?
[01:23] <tomas_> i dont know :p
[01:24] <tomas_> trying to compile it :p
[01:24] <tomas_> "/usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lreadline"
[01:24] <noteventime> readline is a library
[01:24] <tomas_> that i have installed :)
[01:24] <raphink> you need to find where realine lib is
[01:24] <raphink> and have your package depend on it
[01:24] <noteventime> its not in a path probably
[01:24] <raphink> yep
[01:24] <tomas_> just what i thought :/
[01:25] <noteventime> What is the name of the lib path again?
[01:25] <tomas_> i dont know :p
[01:25] <tomas_> readline :p
[01:25] <tomas_> ?
[01:25] <tomas_> i have a libreadline.so.5 in my lib
[01:25] <tomas_> if thats the file *-)
[01:25] <noteventime> I have a python lib called readline
[01:25] <raphink> http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_contents.pl?word=readl
[01:26] <raphink> funny
[01:26] <noteventime> /lib/libreadline.so.5.1
[01:26] <noteventime> /lib/libreadline.so.5
[01:26] <noteventime> /lib/libreadline.so.4.3
[01:26] <noteventime> /lib/libreadline.so.4
[01:26] <raphink> http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_contents.pl?word=readline&searchmode=searchfiles&case=insensitive&version=breezy&arch=i386
[01:26] <noteventime> hehe
[01:26] <raphink> sorry
[01:26] <tomas_> so do i only need to PATH=/lib/libreadline.so.5?
[01:26] <raphink> ah
[01:26] <raphink> in libreadline?
[01:27] <tomas_> "/usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lreadline"
[01:27] <tomas_> i dont want this error
[01:27] <tomas_> :p
[01:27] <noteventime> Isnt there a special path for libraries?
[01:27] <raphink> I'd patch configure
[01:27] <raphink> hehe
[01:27] <tomas_> *-)
[01:27] <noteventime> :-) What a surprice :)
[01:28] <noteventime> tomas_: You better use kcontrol
[01:28] <tomas_> KControl? for what?
[01:28] <noteventime> Editing the path
[01:28] <tomas_> ah
[01:28] <raphink> kcontrol?
[01:28] <tomas_> Systeminstllningarna ;)
[01:28] <tomas_> or something
[01:28] <noteventime> systeminstllningar is buggy
[01:28] <noteventime> i like kcontrol better
[01:29] <tomas_> yup
[01:29] <raphink> so buggy that I don't have it :p
[01:29] <noteventime> just put kcontrol in run
[01:29] <raphink> lol
[01:29] <noteventime> hehe
[01:29] <tomas_> :p
[01:29] <raphink> yeah
[01:29] <raphink> systemsettings was released in ubuntu too fast
[01:29] <raphink> we shouldn't have it imo
[01:29] <raphink> s/fast/early/
[01:29] <noteventime> I didn't know kcontrol was still there till yesterday :)
[01:30] <noteventime> So i have been using systemsettingsXD
[01:30] <tomas_> :p
[01:31] <tomas_> its nice that moodin or whatever its called was included in dapper :)
[01:31] <raphink> yes
[01:31] <raphink> and it's now defauilt
[01:31] <raphink> since 3 days ago
[01:31] <raphink> we have a brand new kdm theme + kslash
[01:31] <raphink> using moodin :)
[01:31] <raphink> that will be in dapper flight 5 :)
[01:31] <noteventime> It is?
[01:32] <raphink> yep :)
[01:32] <noteventime> Cool
[01:32] <raphink> just try it :)
[01:32] <noteventime> I had to compile it myself :)
[01:32] <raphink> no it's in main now
[01:32] <noteventime> It wasn't in the repo, please forgive me
[01:32] <raphink> :;)
[01:32] <raphink> :)
[01:32] <raphink> and installed by default in kubuntu
[01:33] <noteventime> When is dapper released
[01:34] <raphink> 19th of april :)
[01:34] <noteventime> OMG, adept died on me for the first time :O
[01:34] <tomplast> i had a nice time last time i updated dapper :p
[01:34] <raphink> now it's bug fixing, polishing, polishing :)
[01:34] <noteventime> yay, 3 days before my birthsday
[01:34] <tomplast> it was yesterday when i ran both ubuntu and dapper and i just had  updated dapper
[01:34] <tomplast> i couldn't login :p
[01:34] <tomplast> i got a x error :p
[01:34] <tomplast> something about one_level :p
[01:35] <raphink> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseSchedule
[01:35] <raphink> kubuntu has been polished quite a lot lately
[01:35] <raphink> thanks to Tonio
[01:35] <noteventime> OMG, adept is dead :P
[01:36] <tomplast> isnt  that normal :p
[01:36] <tomplast> any btw, was adept gonna get a new look?
[01:36] <raphink> it is
[01:36] <tomplast> with some pictures i hope :p
[01:36] <raphink> dapper now has more adept stuff
[01:36] <tomplast> i saw a screenshot for adept 2.0 i think
[01:36] <raphink> adept itself has a new look
[01:37] <raphink> then adept_installer is an easy to use interface
[01:37] <raphink> for most common apps
[01:37] <tomplast> and btw the adept notifier or whatever its called is not so good
[01:37] <raphink> and there's adept_notifier
[01:37] <noteventime> lol, adept wont even start anymore :P
[01:37] <HEY> hui
[01:37] <raphink> working with adept-updater
[01:37] <HEY> hi
[01:37] <raphink> tomplast: why?
[01:37] <noteventime> il make restart X and hope for the best
[01:37] <tomplast> like it seems that it checks once a day for updates
[01:37] <raphink> noteok
[01:37] <tomplast> often i start adept-updater
[01:37] <raphink> tomplast: sure
[01:38] <tomplast> and then the notifier finds something :p
[01:38] <kmon> Hi, doesnanyone here know if installing turbogears as they say on their web will screw my current ubuntu installation?
[01:38] <tomplast> every 15th minute would be good
[01:38] <raphink> tomplast: taht's very normal
[01:38] <tomplast> or setting the checking time yourself
[01:38] <raphink> tomplast: every 15 minute is too much for most people
[01:38] <raphink> tomplast: you can set it yourself ;)
[01:38] <tomplast> yeah but if you could set it yourself :)
[01:38] <raphink> sudo crontab -e
[01:38] <tomplast> ah :p
[01:38] <tomplast> how :p
[01:38] <tomplast> aha :p
[01:38] <raphink> and there you go
[01:39] <raphink> tomplast: the check for updates is independant from adept-notifier
[01:39] <tomplast> oki
[01:39] <raphink> adept-notifier does nothing
[01:39] <zblach> hi. my kd is having some weirdness. i cannot access shells with ctrl+alt+f#. how can this be fixed?
[01:39] <raphink> it just grabs the apt cache
[01:39] <tomplast> :p
[01:39] <tomplast> oki
[01:39] <noteventime> yay
[01:39] <raphink> the upadate is ran as a crontab
[01:40] <raphink> zblach: did you check if you didn't push the F lock key by mistake ?
[01:40] <tomplast> my crontab is empty :p
[01:40] <noteventime> Hmm... Why is there another background between my KDM theme and my splashscreen
[01:40] <tomplast> should it be that :xp:?
[01:40] <zblach> regardless of FLock's status, i cannot switch to a shell
[01:40] <raphink> tomplast: not yours, the root's :p
[01:41] <noteventime> I changed the roots
[01:41] <noteventime> It's still the same
[01:41] <tomplast> i ran it with sudo
[01:41] <raphink> hmm
[01:41] <tomplast> so shouldnt i see anything then ?
[01:41] <zblach> i remember trying to enable other keys on my board, and switching it to utf8 mode? '+<space> = '
[01:41] <raphink> tomplast: must be another crontab then
[01:42] <tomplast> or maybe it never updates :p
[01:42] <raphink> tomplast: :p
[01:42] <raphink> tomplast: you should ask mornfall about that
[01:42] <tomplast> maybe i should try to reinstall adept-notifier or something
[01:42] <noteventime> raphink: My login would be so nice if i could get the background away :)
[01:42] <tomplast> someday :p
[01:42] <raphink> noteventime: that's easy
[01:42] <tomplast> i have some creepy ekorre as bootsplash
[01:42] <tomplast> the guy from ice age
[01:43] <raphink> noteventime: with kdmtheme
[01:43] <noteventime> raphink: I have kdmtheme
[01:43] <noteventime> raphink: And I have changed my theme and my splash screen so they match
[01:43] <raphink> noteventime: oh no sorry it's not in kdmtheme it's in the login manager in kcontrol
[01:43] <noteventime> ok
[01:44] <zblach> raphink, FLock nothing doing
[01:44] <raphink> zblach: weird
[01:44] <raphink> did you try restarting KDE zblach ?
[01:44] <zblach> after toggling the FLock?
[01:44] <zblach> i've had kb strangeness for a few weeks
[01:45] <raphink> ah
[01:46] <noteventime> Lets hope it works now
[01:48] <noteventime> What is the command to the the kernel version again?
[01:48] <hugelmopf> uname -r
[01:49] <noteventime> thanks
[02:00] <tomplast> have anyone tried perlbox?
[02:01] <tomplast> http://perlbox.org/
[02:01] <tomplast> it has speech recognition ;)
[02:02] <noteventime> :D yay raphink it worked, weee consistend look and feel
[02:02] <raphink> :D
[02:03] <noteventime> You would'nt by any chance know where to get the newet kexi as a deb? X)
[02:05] <ciga> hi
[02:05] <ciga> can I read perldoc in a konqueror window?
[02:05] <ciga> like man:// ?
[02:05] <raphink> noteventime: building the debian sid version?
[02:06] <FiNeZ> Hello!
[02:07] <noteventime> raphink: I dunno, just one so i caninstall the koffice meta package
[02:08] <noteventime> ciga: yes
[02:08] <noteventime> 'ello
[02:09] <noteventime> ciga: I think
[02:09] <ciga> noteventime: :)
[02:09] <mada> salut
[02:09] <noteventime> Geetings
[02:09] <ciga> noteventime: I can find a way: man:/usr/share/man/man3/open.3perl.gz , but what about pods and other stuffs?
[02:10] <noteventime> ciga: I'm sorry I dont even know what a pod is XD, but i know you can read UNIX man pages with man://
[02:11] <_samoura_> noteventime what is agein the irc.simnet.is ip ?
[02:12] <noteventime> samoura: ping irc.simnet.is
[02:12] <noteventime> and you will see the ip
[02:12] <_samoura_> what pin where write?
[02:12] <noteventime> ping in the console
[02:12] <noteventime> Does someone know a book about design patterns in C++ XD
[02:29] <noteventime> Could someone give me a nice subversion frontend for KDE?
[02:31] <noteventime> katapult is the best thing that ever happened to an OS X)
[02:40] <_samoura_> noteventime what do i do when i enter ls and than  psotnic-current-1.tar.gz but there is no output  :S
[02:44] <_samoura_> samoura@dhcppc0:~/Desktop$ ls
[02:44] <_samoura_> commands   psotnic-0.2.7         psotnic-current-1.tar.gz
[02:44] <_samoura_> commands~  psotnic-0.2.7.tar.gz  psotnic-current.tar.gz
[02:44] <_samoura_> conf.hub   psotnic-current       trash.desktop
[02:46] <noteventime> ls outputs whats in the current directory
[02:47] <noteventime> psotnic-current-1.tar.gz is a gzipped tar kinda like a zip or rar
[02:55] <_samoura_> noteventime how do i move that psotnic to home folder  by konsole how
[02:55] <_samoura_> please tell me :P
[02:56] <_samoura_> samoura@dhcppc0:~/Desktop/psotnic-current/bin$  move to home folder ?
[02:57] <_samoura_> i am learning this i have just installd i fail by my salfe :P
[02:58] <_samoura_> :D i am the best ever was
[03:11] <_samoura_> #ubuntu
[03:12] <SirKillalot> do you know a volume manager with OSD?
[03:17] <noteventime> samoura: mv FILE_TO_MOVE WHERE_TO_MOVE
[03:19] <_samoura_>  mv psotnic ~/home/ ?
[03:19] <noteventime> ~ means home
[03:19] <noteventime> mv psotnic ~/
[03:20] <_samoura_> samoura@dhcppc0:~/Desktop/psotnic-current/bin$ mv psotnic ~/
[03:20] <_samoura_> samoura@dhcppc0:~/Desktop/psotnic-current/bin$
[03:20] <noteventime> :)
[03:20] <_samoura_> fine?
[03:21] <noteventime> yes
[03:21] <_samoura_> okei how do i copy?
[03:21] <Ilokaasu> cp what where
[03:21] <noteventime> if you want output you need to ad -v like mv -v psotnic ~/
[03:21] <noteventime> mv - move    cp - copy     rm - remove
[03:22] <_samoura_> #samoura  noteventime i thnik you can help me with the rest :P
[03:30] <Acidic32> !kde3.5
[03:30] <ubotu> (you might want !kde3.5.1) To upgrade to KDE3.5, Follow the instructions at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-35.php (add the deb... line to your sources.list). Then "sudo apt-get update" and "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade".
[03:47] <ryanakca> !named
[03:47] <ubotu> What? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, ryanakca
[03:47] <ryanakca> !bind
[03:47] <ubotu> ryanakca: No idea, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[03:48] <ryanakca> anybody know if BIND/named creates the domain? like say I wanted a domain say... ryanakca.org, would it create it, or would it just say that ryanakca.org is at <IP_ADDRESS>?
[04:02] <fjellrev1> Anyone here have any experience with nvidia and tv out??i found something called nvtv,but the program seems to disappear
[04:17] <Pingjockey> good morning folks, quick question on usb audio
[04:18] <Pingjockey> Trying to get the EQ to work using xmms with no luck.. is that normal??
[04:29] <tid-wave> hello! in ichat style, kopete displays white background for text
[04:29] <tid-wave> it looks very annoying
[04:29] <tid-wave> (breezy)
[04:32] <jpatrick> hola pablud
[04:32] <raphink> hola chiquito
[04:33] <pablud> hola
[04:37] <samoura> #samoura
[04:38] <kubby510> hello everyone
[04:39] <ryanakca> anybody know where I can find the kubuntu logo on a transparent background???
[04:40] <jpatrick> http://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuArtwork
[04:41] <ryanakca> ty
[05:03] <Snake__> !dapper
[05:21] <tomas_> hi everyone
[05:21] <tomas_> are there any kubuntu-devs here?
[05:22] <jpatrick> me
[05:22] <tomas_> :)
[05:22] <tomas_> good
[05:22] <tomas_> one annoying bug in kde is when i try to make a file runable
[05:23] <jpatrick> known
[05:23] <tomas_> it works but i get a messagebox with the path to the file
[05:23] <tomas_> aha
[05:23] <tomas_> :)
[05:24] <tomas_> can you also tell me if its possible to access a sony handycam through usb?
[05:24] <jpatrick> should be
[05:25] <tomas_> Much people says no but nothing is possible imo
[05:25] <xwolf-> is there a way to list recently installed packages?
[05:25] <richard2> Some know how to access a share folders?
[05:25] <jpatrick> xwolf-: /var/log/dpkg.log
[05:26] <tomas_> jpatrick: can you tell me why amarok hangs when trying to play a stream?
[05:26] <jpatrick> tomas_: tried using a different engine
[05:26] <jpatrick> ?
[05:27] <xwolf-> what about uninstalling some of them?
[05:27] <tomas_> jpatrick: xine worked before :/
[05:27] <tomas_> hmm
[05:28] <tomas_> jpatrick: the playlist is finished as soon as i start a song :/
[05:28] <jpatrick> some problem with your sound server then
[05:28] <tomas_> some other sound works
[05:28] <tomas_> and amarok seems to believe that each song is 0 sec long :/
[05:29] <tomas_> i'll try with reinstalling amarok and xine
[05:29] <jpatrick> anything on the status bar?
[05:29] <tomas_> there is a big bubble that says the song title
[05:30] <tomas_> but just a half second comes the next "playlist finished"
[05:30] <tomas_> after
[05:31] <DevGet> tomas_: have you set the correct enegine?
[05:31] <tomas_> i have xine now
[05:31] <tomas_> i have done this before
[05:31] <tomas_> worked in breezy
[05:31] <tomas_> and in dapper
[05:31] <tomas_> before
[05:31] <tomas_> i will try gstreamer as well
[05:32] <jpatrick> gstreamer got pulled out in dapper
[05:32] <tomas_> aha
[05:32] <tomas_> maybe i can change automatic to alsa
[05:32] <tomas_> or oss
[05:32] <tomas_> *-)
[05:32] <tomas_> i dont think it will help but trying isnt wrong
[05:33] <ryanakca> how do you make firefox your default web browser in kde?
[05:33] <ryanakca> (instead of konqueror)
[05:33] <irvken> what does mepis have/do that kubuntu does not?
[05:33] <jpatrick> ryanakca: kcontrol
[05:34] <tomas_> irvken: an ugly control panel :p
[05:34] <irvken> why might anyone use mepis over kubuntu
[05:34] <pagux> hello kubututites
[05:34] <pagux> :-)
[05:34] <tomas_> hi pagux
[05:34] <jpatrick> hello pagux
[05:34] <aeon17x> That has too many t's
[05:34] <ccc_> irvken: nothing imo
[05:34] <pagux> hi guys
[05:34] <tomas_> is advertising recommendened here :p
[05:34] <irvken> but thousnads of them do
[05:34] <tomas_> or some tipping :p
[05:35] <tomas_> cause i know a poker site which have nice freerolls :)
[05:35] <irvken> I run mepis
[05:35] <tomas_> that works in linux ;)
[05:35] <JakubS> irvken: it is usable immediately after installation
[05:35] <pagux> anybody ever ran java webstart on kubuntu ?
[05:35] <aeon17x> tomas_: better do it on the offtopic channel, I guess.
[05:35] <jpatrick> tomas_: xine works here
[05:35] <JakubS> for kubuntu you have to install lots of stuff first
[05:35] <tomas_> jpatrick: :/
[05:35] <irvken> ah
[05:35] <tomas_> pagux: i have, just a couple of mins ago
[05:35] <jpatrick> (breezy)
[05:36] <irvken> examples JakubS
[05:36] <tomucho> hello
[05:36] <irvken> do you mean openoffice or do you mean apache
[05:36] <pagux> thomas :javaweb start  with jdk 1.5 ?
[05:36] <McScruff> is there a firewall running by default on kubuntu?
[05:36] <JakubS> irvken: working java/flash/mplayers/codecs
[05:36] <tomucho> anyone knows what is the login/pass for the latest kubuntu live cd please ?
[05:36] <jpatrick> no
[05:36] <pagux> no
[05:36] <jpatrick> tomucho: there is none
[05:36] <tomas_> pagus: i dont know. i have installed j2re1.4 and mozilla-plugin
[05:37] <tomucho> jpatrick, It ask me to put a login and pass :(
[05:37] <tomas_> pagux: and that works fine for me ;)
[05:37] <irvken> JakubS, I've never managed to get them working first time with mepis
[05:37] <pagux> have u tried "javaws" in console ?
[05:37] <ryanakca> jpatrick: what command? "firefox %s" "firefox" "firefox %u" "firefox %U" etc, etc
[05:37] <irvken> I've never used kubuntu
[05:37] <jpatrick> tomucho: try 'ubuntu' with no pass
[05:37] <irvken> but looks like I ight have to
[05:37] <JakubS> weird, i had them working immediately after installation
[05:37] <tomas_> pagux: works like a charm
[05:37] <tomucho> jpatrick, it said login failed
[05:38] <jpatrick> ryanakca: check the command for your kmenu
[05:38] <irvken> http://www.mepis.org/node/9096
[05:38] <tomas_> pagux: doesnt it work for you?
[05:38] <pagux> not for me :-(
[05:38] <tomas_> pagux: but try to install j2re1.4
[05:38] <tomas_> pagux: and the mozilla-plugin for it :)
[05:38] <ryanakca> jpatrick: wouldnt that give me "firefox %whatever letter it is for my homepage"?
[05:38] <tomas_> pagux: that works for me anyway :)
[05:39] <pagux> Java Web Start splash screen process exiting .....
[05:39] <pagux> Splash: sysCreateListenerSocket failed: No such file or directory
[05:39] <ryanakca> hmmm
[05:39] <djk_> how do i change a pdf?
[05:40] <jpatrick> djk_: impossible
[05:40] <jpatrick> afaik
[05:40] <JakubS> djk_: import it in kword then edit
[05:40] <jpatrick> ^^
[05:40] <tomas_> pagux: have you tried google?
[05:41] <tomas_> pagux: this page could maybe help you: http://forum.java.sun.com/thread.jspa?forumID=38&threadID=196066
[05:41] <ryanakca> hmmm... with "firefox %U" it opens two tabs of GMAIL when I left click the gmail notifier instead of one
[05:41] <Dany> people who can speak russian :)
[05:41] <tomas_> pagux: they talk about a similiar problem anyway
[05:41] <DevGet> !de
[05:41] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu und Kubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de resp. #kubuntu-de
[05:41] <Dany> help me
[05:41] <DevGet> !se
[05:41] <ubotu> DevGet: Did you get hit by a windmill? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[05:41] <Dany> please
[05:41] <tomas_> what is it dany?
[05:41] <DevGet> !sv
[05:41] <ubotu> Some people juggle geese. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, DevGet
[05:42] <tomas_> Dany? Whats your problem?
 i cann't install wifi adapter ^(
[05:42] <Dany> on kubunyu
[05:42] <tomas_> Dany: i dont know anything about wifi but i can try to help you anyway :p
[05:42] <tomas_> Dany: what doesnt work exactly?
[05:43] <Dany> asus wl161
[05:43] <Dany> i download driver
[05:43] <ryanakca> Dany: you want russian?
[05:43] <Dany> yes
[05:43] <ryanakca> !ru
[05:43] <ubotu> Pozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke. # russian users please try #ubuntu-ru, there you may get more help
[05:43] <jpatrick> tomas_: woah, xine is way better than gstreamer
[05:43] <tomas_> Dany: Have you tried KWifiManager?
[05:43] <jpatrick> KWifiManager sucks :P
[05:43] <tomas_> japtric: it seems that some program or something have stoolen my sound system or something :p
[05:44] <tomas_> japtrick :/
[05:44] <tomas_> jpatrick
[05:44] <tomas_> stupid keyboard :p
[05:44] <jpatrick> jp + tab
[05:44] <tomas_> i wonder whats a japtrick is *-)
 drivers are not installed ^(
[05:45] <tomas_> Dany: isnt your wireless card detected ?
[05:45] <jpatrick> tomas_: https://launchpad.net/people/jpatrick :P
[05:45] <tomas_> oki?
[05:45] <Dany> how i can se it &
[05:46] <tomas_> InformationCentral
[05:46] <tomas_> or something
[05:46] <tomas_> i ithink its called
[05:46] <tomas_> its in the system menu
[05:46] <jpatrick> KInfoCenter
[05:46] <Dany> KWifiManager cannt find wriles lan
[05:47] <tomas_> *-)
[05:48] <Dany> :(
[05:48] <tomas_> Sorry Dany maybe jpatrick knows better
[05:48] <Dany> :(  sorry for ma english ^(
[05:48] <jpatrick> kwifimanager is meant for wireless connections
[05:49] <chx> is it possible to print a PDF magnified?
[05:50] <DevGet> can't xine play mp3's?
[05:51] <jpatrick> :?
[05:51] <Dany> no
[05:51] <tomas_away> ?
[05:51] <tomas_away> are you funny?
[05:51] <tomas_away> download w32codecs and it will be fine
[05:52] <jpatrick> there is no w32codecs
[05:52] <tomas_away> =?
[05:52] <tomas_away> what do you mean by that?
[05:52] <tomas_away> extra repository its called AFAIK
[05:52] <DevGet> the homepages says that xine says it support mp3
[05:53] <tomucho> anyone knows what is the login/pass for the latest kubuntu live cd please ?
[05:53] <DevGet> but I can't play mp3 in amarok
[05:53] <jpatrick> DevGet: what site?
[05:53] <DevGet> http://xinehq.de/index.php/features
[05:54] <DevGet> Ahh, may I ned extracodecs
[05:55] <tomas_away> i told you -)
[05:55] <DevGet> yes, thx :)
[05:56] <tomas_away> isnt it deb ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/ sid main
[05:56] <tomas_away> im not totaly sure but i think that repository contains w32codecs
[05:56] <jpatrick> marillat is not recommended
[05:56] <tomas_away> why?
[05:56] <tomas_away> i have heard from some that you can install w32codecs but you should deactivate marillat after
[05:56] <jpatrick> breaks stuff
[05:56] <DevGet> istall libxine-extracodecs was enough
[05:57] <tomas_away> i did anyway
[05:57] <tomas_away> no
[05:57] <tomas_away> now its time for some card play
[05:57] <tomas_away> see ya all
[05:57] <tomas_away> bye
[06:02] <pagux> how much memory kubuntu needs to run respectfully ?
[06:03] <margouyab> 256 Mo I think
[06:03] <margouyab> and 512 Mo for better performance
[06:03] <jpatrick> yep ^^
[06:07] <kakei> hi,does any body have make a podcast in audacity?
[06:10] <ryanakca> how do you figure out how many gigabytes you have left on your hd?
[06:10] <callie> Hi, i've got this old computer i found and im trying to get it going, I'm getting a CMOS checksum error and cant seem to get into the BIOS any ideas guys?
[06:10] <spiritz> ryanakca:  df -h
[06:10] <callie> ryanakca, df -h
[06:10] <callie> yeah, what he said
[06:11] <ryanakca> phew... still 18gb...
[06:11] <callie> Whew!
[06:13] <callie> robotgeek, you know anything about CMOS checksum errors?
[06:13] <robotgeek> callie: nope, might be a battery issue or something
[06:14] <callie> yeah, already tried swapping it out, but no joy there either
[06:16] <robotgeek> callie: no clue, don't use PC's
[06:16] <tristanmike> callie: did you try pulling the jumpers?
[06:17] <callie> you mean flashing the bios tristanmike ? yeah i did
[06:18] <tristanmike> callie: without just pulling the cmos right?
[06:18] <callie> tristanmike, i'm not sure what you mean? pulling?
[06:18] <tristanmike> callie: removing the cmos battery is one way, there is also a more "hardcoded" way to do it, and that's via the jumpers
[06:19] <callie> yeah, i thought i already said i did that
[06:19] <tristanmike> callie: just making sure I didn't misunderstand you
[06:19] <callie> cool
[06:20] <callie> i had to flash the bios initialy becuase the bios had a p/w on it
[06:20] <callie> now i cant even get to the bios
[06:20] <callie> im assuming becuase of this error
[06:22] <callie> are there any floppy utils i could try?
[06:22] <tristanmike> callie: did you backup the old bios?
[06:23] <callie> nope
[06:23] <tristanmike> wha!?
[06:23] <tristanmike> callie: tisk, tisk
[06:23] <callie> it was password protected tristanmike
[06:24] <tristanmike> callie: ok, did you get the same error on the old bios? the cmos checksum error?
[06:24] <callie> no i dont think so
[06:25] <tristanmike> callie: I assumed you used you're board's manufactuer's tool's for flashing the bios? the file and the actual tool used?
[06:25] <tristanmike> what's the mobo?
[06:26] <callie> tristanmike, a gigabyte something, hang on i'll check
[06:29] <callie> tristanmike, Gigabyte GA-6WMMC7
[06:29] <pagux> how i remove something fociblly or reinstall ?
[06:30] <pagux> it seems achache it not working on kubuntu
[06:30] <pagux> i can remove via apt as dependency issues
[06:34] <penguinboy> hey hey hey
[06:34] <_tristanmike> callie: sorry, I lost my internet
[06:35] <callie> _tristanmike, thats cool
[06:35] <callie> did you get my answer tristanmike ?
[06:35] <callie> _tristanmike, Gigabyte GA-6WMMC7
[06:35] <_tristanmike> cool
[06:36] <_tristanmike> did you use the manufacture's tool for upgrading as well as their bios file?
[06:36] <callie> i dont know how to do that _tristanmike, and remember this a computer i found dumped
[06:36] <_tristanmike> haha
[06:37] <callie> i just thought it might be fun to try and get it going, the power supply was knackered and i was hoping that was its only fault
[06:38] <_tristanmike> callie: where are you? USA?
[06:39] <callie> UK
[06:40] <callie> why do you as tristanmike ?
[06:40] <tristanmike> just so I get to the right Gigabyte homepage for the bios files etc.
[06:41] <tristanmike> so I can stalk you....
[06:42] <callie> lol
[06:43] <callie> i've found some bios files already, i guess i just put them on a floppy and boot?
[06:43] <tristanmike> callie: you _must_ use the offical files and tool to do it, using anything else may result in errors
[06:44] <tristanmike> and when I say "_must_" i _must_ really emphasise that
[06:44] <callie> these are from gigabyte
[06:44] <tristanmike> cool
[06:44] <tristanmike> lemme see, are you from the usa?
[06:44] <tristanmike> or NA for that matter
[06:44] <callie> UK
[06:45] <tristanmike> see, things are different over there than here, I'm in Canada
[06:45] <jpatrick> < UK
[06:45] <callie> :D
[06:47] <callie> i'll brb
[06:47] <tristanmike> callie: you went here to get the files?  http://uk.giga-byte.com/Motherboard/Support/BIOS/BIOS_GA-6WMMC7.htm?
[06:48] <pagux> how do i install autpackage ?
[06:48] <pagux> its not in any repo
[06:49] <tristanmike> !autopackage
[06:49] <ubotu> well, autopackage is evil
[06:49] <tristanmike> good ubotu
[06:49] <tristanmike> !botsnack
[06:49] <ubotu> :)
[06:51] <callie> hey tristanmike sorry bout that
[06:51] <tristanmike> callie: no probs at all :)
[06:51] <tristanmike> http://uk.giga-byte.com/Motherboard/Support/BIOS/BIOS_GA-6WMMC7.htm  ?
[06:51] <tristanmike> callie: did you go there to get the bios?
[06:51] <callie> yeah
[06:52] <tristanmike> callie: and you used Qflash?
[06:52] <callie> i got the F8 bios
[06:52] <callie> qflash? explain
[06:53] <callie> sorry this is kinda new territory for me
[06:53] <tristanmike> no need to be sorry my friend
[06:53] <tristanmike> http://uk.giga-byte.com/MotherBoard/Support/BIOS/HowToReflash/HowToReflash_1.htm
[06:54] <tristanmike> callie: did you follow these instructions?
[06:55] <tristanmike> one sec
[06:56] <callie> i havent got that far all i've got is a file, and .exe and thats it
[06:59] <callie> s/and/an
[07:02] <tristanmike> callie: can we step back for one sec, how did you flash the bios?
[07:02] <callie> using the jumpers tristanmike
[07:03] <kubby510> lol NA
[07:03] <kubby510> sorry i was just scrolling up
[07:03] <kubby510> :p
[07:03] <kubby510> im in the NA
[07:03] <kubby510> sorta
[07:04] <kubby510> i dont practice...
[07:04] <kubby510> :(
[07:04] <tristanmike> callie: ahhh, I see
[07:05] <tristanmike> callie: so you had a mobo with a password on the bios, had no "errors" or "problems" per se, so you used the jumpers to try and clear the bios and now you get a cmos checksum error? am i right?
[07:05] <callie> exactly tristanmike
[07:07] <tristanmike> ahhh
[07:07] <tristanmike> what jumpers did you use? how did you go about it?
[07:09] <callie> Found the little table on the board which tells you the jumper setting and JP number, in this case 13, with the machine off i then moved the jumper over into the flash position, left it for 30 seconds and the replaced it to the original postion before powering back up
[07:10] <callie> Damn! my g/f is here, i shall have to continue this some other time
[07:10] <callie> thanks though tristanmike i'm sure i'll be back soon to pick your brains if thats ok?
[07:10] <tristanmike> ok, quick question
[07:10] <callie> yeah?
[07:10] <tristanmike> did you use a brand new fresh battery when you swapped
[07:11] <callie> its not that new, but then not that old either
[07:11] <callie> less that a year old
[07:11] <tristanmike> follow these instructions http://uk.giga-byte.com/MotherBoard/Support/BIOS/HowToReflash/HowToReflash_1.htm  and do it from "dos" and you should be ok
[07:11] <tristanmike> when you did the jumpers, everything was unplugged and you held the power button for 10 sec's right?
[07:12] <callie> the power was still connected i think
[07:12] <callie> i thought it was supposed to be
[07:12] <callie> ah
[07:12] <callie> damn
[07:12] <pollomax> #kubuntu/es
[07:14] <pollomax> join chanel kubuntu-es
[07:15] <jpatrick> pollomax: /join #kubuntu-es
[07:15] <tristanmike> callie: NEVER play with jumpers with the power plugged in, and with out releasing the "flea power" by holding the pwr button for 10 sec after unplugging it
[07:16] <tristanmike> callie: good luck
[07:17] <pollomax> how download automatix
[07:17] <tristanmike> !automatix
[07:17] <ubotu> automatix is unsafe, it overwrites configuration files, and does things like "echo -e 'ynYn'" that are considered risky. Please do not use it. There are alternative applications, but it's often best to read the documentation.
[07:19] <noteventime> !easyubuntu
[07:19] <ubotu> easyubuntu is an easy-to-use program for installing all your favorites. Java, Nvidia/ATI, and more. It is as safe as the team can make it. It doesn't change any settings by default. http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ or #easyubuntu
[07:20] <noteventime> pollomax: Your better of with easyubuntu
[07:21] <noteventime> Ennu mer svenskar? :)
[07:23] <noteventime> Does someone know a good database manager that works with mysql
[07:30] <tanubis> Anyone know how to get samba working properly?
[07:37] <johnntirado> hello all
[07:37] <noteventime> 'ello
[07:37] <johnntirado> I have been trying to learn linux
[07:38] <johnntirado> and one thing is confusing
[07:38] <noteventime> ok, thats god :)
[07:38] <noteventime> good*
[07:38] <noteventime> Whats confusing you?
[07:38] <johnntirado> how do I intall software that I want to add like crossoffice
[07:38] <johnntirado> well in windows you just click
[07:38] <johnntirado> and the installer does it all
[07:38] <noteventime> Thats one of the hardest things for a linux beginner to learn.
[07:39] <johnntirado> well leave it to me to ask
[07:39] <noteventime> There are multiple ways
[07:39] <johnntirado> ok
[07:39] <_nano> hi
[07:39] <johnntirado> all the web sites don't really answer my question
[07:39] <noteventime> one, the "standard" one in debian based distros is apt-get
[07:39] <noteventime> You probably know about that one
[07:39] <johnntirado> lol no
[07:40] <johnntirado> too green for that
[07:40] <noteventime> You have used adept?
[07:40] <johnntirado> nope
[07:40] <johnntirado> heck Im just trying out this live kubuntu cd
[07:40] <noteventime> How have you installed things till now?
[07:40] <noteventime> ahhh... :) ok
[07:40] <johnntirado> well in the live cd for kubuntu the cd installes it
[07:41] <noteventime> ok
[07:41] <johnntirado> btw thanks for the time
[07:41] <noteventime> Well, crossover office
[07:41] <noteventime> has a install file just like in windows
[07:41] <noteventime> just you need to start it from the command line
[07:41] <johnntirado> it has a file that ends in sh I think
[07:41] <noteventime> yes
[07:41] <noteventime> its a script
[07:41] <johnntirado> oh ok
[07:42] <johnntirado> so the command like is like dos
[07:42] <noteventime> yes
[07:42] <johnntirado> is the command $ install-yadayada yad-sh
[07:43] <noteventime> but you have to write ./ to mark that the file is in the current directory
[07:43] <johnntirado> hmmmm  ok
[07:43] <noteventime> so open a console
[07:43] <johnntirado> good start
[07:43] <johnntirado> how do I do thaty
[07:43] <noteventime> :) i'll help you install it
[07:43] <johnntirado> well not ready for that lol
[07:44] <johnntirado> just getting ahead of myself
[07:44] <noteventime> In the kmenu->system->konsole
[07:44] <noteventime> ok
[07:44] <johnntirado> thanks for the start
[07:44] <noteventime> :)
[07:44] <johnntirado> now kubuntu wont load in my litttle older computer
[07:44] <noteventime> Do you know what root is?
[07:44] <johnntirado> root is like the head operator
[07:45] <johnntirado> admin
[07:45] <noteventime> yes
[07:45] <johnntirado> or c:\
[07:45] <noteventime> both :)
[07:45] <johnntirado> yeppers
[07:45] <noteventime> I'm reffering to the administrator
[07:45] <johnntirado> now in kubuntu there is a run command thing
[07:45] <noteventime> yes
[07:45] <noteventime> But its often better to use the console
[07:45] <johnntirado> so I can type the install command there right
[07:45] <johnntirado> oh ok
[07:46] <noteventime> in the console you can see more output if there would be an error
[07:46] <johnntirado> so how do I load the konsole again
[07:46] <noteventime> in the console you just have to run the sh file
[07:46] <johnntirado> ok
[07:46] <noteventime> just specify the path
[07:47] <noteventime> like /home/me/install-crossoveroffice.sh
[07:47] <noteventime> Do you know what debian is?
[07:47] <johnntirado> ok
[07:47] <johnntirado> no sorry I have heard of it
[07:47] <johnntirado> lol man I need to get a book huh
[07:47] <noteventime> Ubuntu is based in debian, its another linux ditro
[07:48] <noteventime> jhonntirado: not really, you learn if you use :)
[07:48] <johnntirado> lol well Im willing
[07:48] <tristanmike> johnntirado: no book is needed, just time, just like windows when you first started
[07:48] <johnntirado> gotcha
[07:49] <johnntirado> heck I remember spending nights with windows and dos
[07:49] <noteventime> hehe
[07:49] <johnntirado> my first computer had a 20meg hd
[07:49] <tristanmike> then you should slide in easily
[07:49] <noteventime> the first thing you should learn is how to use apt-get and adept
[07:49] <johnntirado> ok
[07:49] <johnntirado> where do I type that command
[07:49] <noteventime> Its the package system used in debian based linux distros
[07:50] <noteventime> in the console
[07:50] <johnntirado> ok lemme look around for console
[07:50] <noteventime> sure
[07:50] <noteventime> most things are kinda like dos
[07:50] <noteventime> cd to change directory
[07:50] <gleesond> what is the best way to change my login screen theme?
[07:50] <johnntirado> ok console is upp
[07:50] <noteventime> gleesond: KDM?
[07:51] <noteventime> good, cd - change directory
[07:51] <noteventime> ls (ell ess) list all files in the current directory (like dir in dos)
[07:51] <gleesond> I'm not sure, I installed ubuntu before I switched over to kubuntu so it might be GDM
[07:51] <gleesond> is there a way to find out
[07:52] <tristanmike> gleesond: what's the login you have now? Ubuntu or Kubuntu?
[07:52] <noteventime> try to stop kdm and you will see
[07:52] <gleesond> kubuntu
[07:52] <johnntirado> how do I list my directorys in konsole
[07:52] <noteventime> ls
[07:52] <johnntirado> like /dir
[07:52] <johnntirado> in dos
[07:52] <noteventime> ls (ell ess) list all files in the current directory (like dir in dos)
[07:52] <tristanmike> gleesond: meaning, when you log in, the logon screen says Kubuntu?
[07:53] <gleesond> yeah
[07:53] <tristanmike> gleesond: then you
[07:53] <tristanmike> *'re running kdm
[07:53] <noteventime> then you need to install kdm theme manager
[07:53] <gleesond> ok is there a pkg name
[07:53] <johnntirado> ok
[07:53] <gleesond> or is it just kdm theme manager
[07:53] <noteventime> cp file dest - copies a file
[07:54] <noteventime> mv file dest - moves a file
[07:54] <noteventime> rm file - removes a file
[07:54] <johnntirado> good lesson
[07:54] <noteventime> :)
[07:54] <johnntirado> like unix commands
[07:54] <tristanmike> gleesond: I'm not sure
[07:54] <gleesond> ok thannks
[07:54] <noteventime> johnntirado: exavtly
[07:55] <johnntirado> noteventime thanks for the lesson
[07:55] <noteventime> np :)
[07:55] <johnntirado> I will be back in a bit
[07:55] <noteventime> sure
[07:58] <blackflag> hello all
[07:58] <blackflag> I want to fax with openoffice
[07:59] <blackflag> in the document are jpeg's
[07:59] <blackflag>  when I try to save as txt then the jpegs are gone
[07:59] <noteventime> Do faxes still exist :P
[07:59] <blackflag> how can I fax such documents
[08:00] <blackflag> I have a lan with hylafax
[08:00] <blackflag>  and when I try to sent with kdesendfax it cant send the odt file
[08:00] <noteventime> Maybe convert the file?
[08:01] <blackflag> How can I fax scanned documents?
[08:01] <noteventime> Use ocr in kooka
[08:01] <blackflag> convert? what for a format?
[08:01] <noteventime> to convert the
[08:01] <noteventime> image to text
[08:01] <noteventime> I dont know which formats ksendfax supports
[08:02] <noteventime> ok
[08:02] <noteventime> ksendfax only supports text files
[08:02] <blackflag> then the best way is OCR ?
[08:02] <noteventime> I would say so
[08:03] <noteventime> Do you know hoe to use ocs in kooka?
[08:03] <blackflag> no, its the first time then to use OCR
[08:03] <blackflag> you have some tips?
[08:04] <noteventime> Acyualy no, i've only used it once :)
[08:04] <blackflag> okay thanks for help I will try it!
[08:05] <noteventime> :) sorry for not being able to provide more comprahensive help
[08:05] <noteventime> comprehensive*
[08:07] <noteventime> hejsan
[08:23] <hibatsu> hi
[08:24] <hibatsu> can anyone help me with dapper?
[08:24] <jpatrick> maybe
[08:25] <hibatsu> I don't have any sound in amarok when trying to play an mp3
[08:25] <hibatsu> neither with xine nor the arts plugin
[08:25] <hibatsu> and I installed the w32codecs
[08:25] <mluser-home> Hello.. where can I get information on the format for the /etc/network/interfaces file?
[08:26] <jpatrick> mluser-home: man:/interfaces
[08:26] <mluser-home> jpatrick: thanks :)
[08:26] <tristanmike> hibatsu: you need to install gstreamer0.8-mad to enable mp3 playback
[08:26] <tristanmike> !mp3
[08:26] <Glin|Jol> Winamp  5.13 Stopped
[08:26] <ubotu> I heard mp3 is a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[08:27] <noteventime> you need gstreamer-mad
[08:27] <noteventime> Ops, tristanmike is right gstreamer0.8-mad
[08:28] <hibatsu> ok, thanks
[08:29] <honesty> Can someone give me the dapper testing channel because I am having problems installing it - something like ALERT! /dev/ram does not exist
[08:32] <noteventime> there is a dapper testing channel?
[08:32] <Tm_T> #ubuntu-dapper maybe?
[08:32] <Tm_T> !dapper
[08:33] <noteventime> I'm trying a few comoinations
[08:33] <Tm_T> #ubuntu+1
[08:33] <noteventime> #ubuntu+1
[08:33] <Tm_T> w
[08:33] <noteventime> ahh
[08:35] <honesty> thx
[08:37] <Tm_T> everything is been fine here?
[08:37] <tomas_> hi everyone
[08:37] <noteventime> 'ello
[08:37] <Tm_T> moin
[08:37] <noteventime> hejsan igen :D
[08:37] <tomas_> hehe :P
[08:38] <tomas_> innan jag borjar tigga hjalp :P
[08:38] <tomas_> so ska jag stalla en annan typ av fraga :P
[08:38] <tomas_> var i sverige finns du noteventime :)?
[08:38] <hibatsu> I've already installed gstramer0.8-mad but I can't select it in the engines in amarok
[08:39] <tomas_> saj inte stockholm bara :p
[08:39] <noteventime> Nre rebro
[08:39] <tomas_> jaja :p
[08:39] <tomas_> det ar val okej da ;)
[08:39] <Tm_T> hibatsu: also install amarok-gstreamer
[08:39] <tomas_> sjalv so bor man nere i halland :)
[08:39] <tomas_> langt ifran stockholm :D
[08:39] <noteventime> Nra rebro, I en liten smstad :P
[08:39] <hibatsu> there is no such package
[08:39] <hibatsu> in dapper
[08:40] <Tm_T> tomas_: stop, use english tack, jag tycker inte om sverige hr
[08:40] <tomas_> noteventime: kanner du till nagon bugg som gor att det inte hjalper att stalla in svenskt tangenbord? jag har fortfarande inga svenska tecken :/
[08:40] <noteventime> Kr du XGL?
[08:40] <noteventime> Sorry
[08:40] <noteventime> You'r not using XGL are you?
[08:40] <Tm_T> that sounds much better ;)
[08:41] <noteventime> !se
[08:41] <ubotu> What?  :P
[08:48] <tomas_> no :p
[08:48] <tomas_> im talking so much anyway ;)
[08:48] <noteventime> You have that kind of functionality in opera
[08:49] <noteventime> X) Dont you hate it when you get segmention faults
[08:50] <noteventime> tomas_: Have you tried xgl?
[08:50] <tomas_> noteventime: no, what is it really? something about opengl?
[08:50] <noteventime> OpenGl accelerated X
[08:51] <tomas_> benefits?
[08:51] <tomas_> faster X?
[08:51] <tomas_> hotter GPU :p ?
[08:51] <tomas_> less  for gaming?
[08:51] <noteventime> faster X less CPU used
[08:51] <tomas_> :p
[08:51] <tomas_> :p
[08:51] <noteventime> and COOOOOL effects :D
[08:51] <tomas_> how :p
[08:51] <tomas_> tell me :p
[08:51] <tomas_> how :p
[08:51] <tomas_> :p
[08:51] <noteventime> take a look at the video
[08:52] <noteventime> http://www.freedesktop.org/~davidr/xgl-demo1.xvid.avi
[08:52] <tomas_> :p
[08:52] <noteventime> What GPU are you using?
[08:52] <hibatsu> xgl is only gtk, isn't it?
[08:52] <tomas_> NVIDIA 5900 XT
[08:52] <noteventime> no
[08:52] <noteventime> Yes!
[08:52] <noteventime> tomas_: Nice for you
[08:52] <tomas_> CANT WATCH IT :
[08:52] <tomas_> :"
[08:52] <tomas_> i gonna do a reboot
[08:52] <tomas_> see ya
[08:52] <tomas_> shortly
[08:53] <noteventime> :
[08:53] <noteventime> )
[08:53] <noteventime> hibatsu: xgl is simply xserver using the GPU
[08:53] <jpatrick> re apokryphos
[08:53] <noteventime> Or not simple but basicly
[08:55] <apokryphos> jpatrick: hey, how's it going? :)
[08:55] <jpatrick> no good - ran out of hdd space
[08:55] <tomas_> :
[08:55] <tomas_> WHERE IS MY SWEDISH KEYBOARD!!!
[08:56] <noteventime> Have you taken a look in the xorg.conf?
[08:56] <tomas_> me?
[08:56] <noteventime> yes :)
[08:56] <tomas_> and can you give me the link again please
[08:56] <noteventime> http://www.freedesktop.org/~davidr/xgl-demo1.xvid.avi
[08:56] <Tm_T> tomas_: dont yell here
[08:56] <tomas_> sorry
[08:57] <tomas_> i just get so mad when the system tell me its working but its not
[08:57] <noteventime> !pastebin
[08:57] <ubotu> I guess pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org - Install webboard for easy pasting from the gnome taskbar :)
[08:57] <tomas_> i know about pastebin
[08:57] <tomas_> havent so much to paste yet
[08:58] <tomas_> expect some furniture soon :Xp:
[08:58] <noteventime> ?
[08:58] <noteventime> I needed the link :)
[08:58] <noteventime> tomas_: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9311
[08:58] <tomas_> =?
[08:58] <tomas_> aha
[08:58] <tomas_> you mean that i should post my config?
[08:58] <noteventime> no
[08:58] <noteventime> i posted mine
[08:59] <tomas_> aha
[08:59] <noteventime> just the keyboard part :)
[08:59] <tomas_> moki
[08:59] <tomas_> i will compare it
[08:59] <lampshade> Is there a way to set what key combo (default is ctrl+tab) makes me switch desktops?  The ctrl+tab default is messing me up when I use programs like gaim and firefox where I want to ctrl+tab through my tabbed windows
[08:59] <noteventime> Takea look
[08:59] <noteventime> lampshade: khotkey?
[08:59] <noteventime> khotkeys
[08:59] <tomas_> noteventime: its identical
[08:59] <lampshade> khotkey?  I didn't see anything like that.  Perhaps I don't have it installed.
[08:59] <Tm_T> lampshade: systemsettings has keyboard section
[09:00] <noteventime> tomas_: hmmm
[09:00] <lampshade> ok, this is stupid, but how do I get to system settings
[09:00] <lampshade> I am lost on KDE
[09:00] <noteventime> main menu :)
[09:00] <Tm_T> lampshade: you do find Kmenu?
[09:00] <seaLne> K menu -> system settings
[09:00] <Tm_T> :p
[09:00] <tomas_> noteventime: Now I even can't play a shitty movie
[09:01] <lampshade> I click the Kmen -->  and then I have  settings or system not a system settings, though?
[09:01] <tomas_> noteventime: mpeg works :/
[09:01] <lampshade> perhaps I'm missing an app
[09:01] <lampshade> or several
[09:01] <tomas_> i'll try mplayer
[09:02] <noteventime> tomas_: Its xvid
[09:02] <tomas_> noteventime: i know, and it doesnt works in kaffeine, i'll try mplayer
[09:03] <noteventime> tomas_: Do you have xvid installed?
[09:03] <tomas_> isnt it a part of w32codecs?
[09:03] <lampshade> oh I didn't have systemsettings installed
[09:03] <lampshade> I thinks that's whys
[09:04] <noteventime> tomas_: There is a gstreamer one
[09:04] <tomas_> I'LL REMOVE W32codecs
[09:04] <tomas_> oki
[09:04] <tomas_> great
[09:04] <tomas_> first im going to remove this crap
[09:04] <tomas_> gstreamer for amarok was removed right?
[09:04] <kylev> adept-update has become worthless to me :(
[09:05] <kylev> I installed the pile of updates for 5.10, rebooted
[09:05] <kylev> and now starting adept-update tells me "You need to run this application as root to make make any use of it."
[09:05] <kylev> (doubled="make" not a typo)
[09:05] <tomas_> do you get a sudoers error?
[09:05] <tomas_> that you are not in the sudoers file or something?
[09:06] <kylev> nah, I can fire up a shell and try running adept-updater from sudo directly
[09:06] <tomas_> oki
[09:06] <tomas_> then i dont know :/
[09:06] <kylev> or "sudo su"
[09:06] <kylev> or "sudo bash"
[09:06] <noteventime> :/ im having the same problem with adept, I can't run it through kdesu
[09:07] <tomas_> i have no problems with it
[09:07] <tomas_> i may have done some insecure thing
[09:07] <kylev> are there any non-graphical updaters that I can check for updates?
[09:07] <lampshade> does your system settings have an entry on the keyboard for switching desktops?  There is no entry on mine to change?  I'm just curious.
[09:07] <tomas_> i added myself to the sudoers file
[09:07] <tomas_> but i guess that was another error
[09:07] <kylev> well, my user is in the admin group, which is in /etc/sudoers
[09:08] <kylev> sudo is running fine
[09:08] <kylev> but something is dropping privs, or adept is mi-detecting uid
[09:08] <tomas_> noteventime: help me :'(
[09:08] <noteventime> tomas_: ok
[09:08] <kylev> or maybe some file perm is borked, and adept thinks that failing to opena  file means it isn't root...
[09:09] <noteventime> tomas_: I missed your problem though
[09:09] <tomas_> noteventime: i cant get anything to play
[09:09] <tomas_> noteventime: i installed a package for xvid
[09:09] <noteventime> tolled?mas_: have you got gstreamer insta
[09:09] <tomas_> -but it doesnt work
[09:09] <noteventime> ok
[09:09] <tomas_> YES
[09:09] <noteventime> I'll try it out myself
[09:09] <tomas_> doso
[09:09] <tomas_> btw
[09:09] <noteventime> ?
[09:09] <tomas_> i can only select one engine in kaffeine :/
[09:10] <noteventime> Me too
[09:10] <noteventime> But i think there is a xine plugin
[09:10] <tomas_> i have that :/
[09:11] <noteventime> :( OMG 30mb/s
[09:11] <noteventime> kb
[09:11] <noteventime> :P
[09:11] <tomas_> i know
[09:11] <tomas_> its VERY SLOW
[09:11] <tomas_> streaming is easier
[09:11] <tomas_> noteventime: can you play most videos?
[09:12] <noteventime> I havn't played that many to be honest
[09:12] <tomas_> noteventime: i mean, do you have w32codecs?
[09:12] <tomas_> oh
[09:12] <tomas_> oki
[09:12] <noteventime> Yes i have w32codecs
[09:12] <tomas_> from where did you get it?
[09:12] <noteventime> PLF
[09:12] <tomas_> PLF?
[09:12] <tomas_> penguin liberation front :p ?
[09:13] <noteventime> yes
[09:13] <tomas_> :xp:
[09:13] <tomas_> oki
[09:13] <noteventime> hehe
[09:13] <noteventime> im trying the video now
[09:13] <noteventime> hmmm....
[09:13] <noteventime> I'm not getting any image :)
[09:14] <kylev> fucking lame
[09:14] <tomas_> ah
[09:14] <tomas_> noteventime: thank you :)
[09:14] <tomas_> anyway :p
[09:14] <noteventime> Yep?
[09:14] <tomas_> can you try to figure out why my keyboard doesnt work :p
[09:14] <noteventime> I'm trying ;)
[09:14] <kylev> this never happens in Fedora
[09:15] <_hupp3l> WTF is xlib6g?
[09:15] <tomas_> no but fedora sucks :p
[09:15] <tomas_> :p
[09:15] <_hupp3l> im having alot of dependecy problems :(
[09:15] <_hupp3l> can someone please help me
[09:15] <noteventime> sure
[09:15] <tomas_> fedora is just a thing red hat throwed away *-)
[09:15] <kylev> the inability to install updates kind of puts a damper on my "kubuntu experience"
[09:15] <kylev>  :-P
[09:15] <noteventime> _hupp3l: Are you running dapper?
[09:16] <tomas_> anyone going to buy ps3?
[09:16] <_hupp3l> yes
[09:16] <_hupp3l> and yes
[09:16] <tomas_> :p
[09:16] <tomas_> great hupp3l :D
[09:16] <noteventime> I'm not
[09:16] <tomas_> why :p
[09:17] <_hupp3l> ah boo
[09:17] <tomas_> dont tell me that you have bought crappy360
[09:17] <noteventime> _hupp3l: Are you running dapper
[09:17] <noteventime> Nope
[09:17] <_hupp3l> yes I am noteventime
[09:17] <noteventime> I've bought none
[09:17] <_hupp3l> dapper 3
[09:17] <_hupp3l> flight 3
[09:17] <xChomp> what security measures would you prefer after a kubuntu linux installation? i have a fresh installed kubuntu linux installation here on my machine
[09:17] <tomas_> its okay noteventime :p. as long as you dont support msoft ;)
[09:17] <noteventime> _hupp3l: i'll send you my sources.list
[09:17] <noteventime> and you can see if you miss one of the repos
[09:18] <noteventime> I barely play games so it's not worth the money
[09:18] <_hupp3l> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9312
[09:18] <seaLne> xChomp: a default install won't have any remotely connectable services so should be fine
[09:18] <_b> expensive titles
[09:18] <noteventime> ps3 will be 600$ :D
[09:18] <_hupp3l> but I uncommented the main dapper reposes in the meanwhile and I commented out the vlc ones
[09:18] <_b> aaah
[09:18] <xChomp> seaLne: ok, thanks for the info :)
[09:19] <Tm_T> kylev: any problems?
[09:19] <tomas_> noteventime: my ass, its speculation. it may be but none knows yet
[09:19] <kylev> Tm_T: I'm re-doing the install
[09:19] <noteventime> tomas_: :D
[09:19] <kylev> Tm_T: maybe it'll not suck this time
[09:20] <Tm_T> kylev: ok, just try to keep your language clean ;)
[09:20] <tomas_> haha :p
[09:20] <noteventime> _hupp3l: Doesn't look bad :/
[09:20] <tomas_> COMPUTER: terminal :P
[09:20] <tomas_> this is fun :p
[09:20] <_b> in the console world its allways rumors etc !
[09:20] <_hupp3l> yeah I dont understand why im having these dependency problems
[09:20] <noteventime> I don't even play computer games anymore
[09:20] <_hupp3l> would you like to see the pastebin of the error?
[09:20] <tomas_> noteventime: :/
[09:20] <kylev> Tm_T: no promises, but I won't curse unreasonably :-)
[09:20] <_hupp3l> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9312
[09:20] <Tm_T> kylev: and I won't kick unreasonably
[09:21] <Tm_T> ;)
[09:21] <noteventime> _hupp3l: Looks good :/
[09:21] <kylev> excellent
[09:21] <robotgeek> heh Tm_T :)
[09:21] <noteventime> _hupp3l: i'll paste mine
[09:21] <_hupp3l> ok thanx
[09:21] <brodel> how can I make the links open with firefox instead of konqueror?
[09:21] <Tm_T> robotgeek: yuh, bad day here ;(
[09:21] <tomas_> KControl
[09:21] <Tm_T> robotgeek: and hi to you too =)
[09:21] <robotgeek> Tm_T: why so?
[09:21] <tomas_> brodel: KControl
[09:22] <Tm_T> robotgeek: women...
[09:22] <Tm_T> robotgeek: actually just one ;)
[09:22] <robotgeek> Tm_T: hah, this is a linux only support channel :)
[09:22] <kylev> Tm_T: that means you're 1 woman up on most of the poeple here
[09:22] <tomas_> brodel: KControl > KDE-Components ( i guess) - Components
[09:23] <tomas_> oh :p
[09:23] <kylev> (myself included)
[09:23] <robotgeek> kylev: ssssh, don't depress me mate
[09:23] <tomas_> do we have a woman here?
[09:23] <noteventime> _hupp3l: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9314
[09:23] <_hupp3l> can I just copy yours over mine?
[09:23] <Tm_T> kylev: bad assuming ;)
[09:23] <noteventime> The last time i played a computer  game was 1 week ago and that was the beta off DDO
[09:23] <Tm_T> robotgeek: indeed
[09:24] <tomas_> btw :p
[09:24] <tomas_> do not forget to download dosbox :p
[09:24] <tomas_> and winter :p
[09:24] <tomas_> and lotus :p
[09:24] <noteventime> ahh, thanks
[09:24] <tomas_> and all those nice games :p
[09:24] <tomas_> dont forget lemmings :p
[09:24] <tomas_> and lost vikings :p
[09:24] <tomas_> and jones in the fast lane :D
[09:24] <brodel> tomas_: ahh.. that did it. Thanks.
[09:24] <noteventime> The only thing you need for hardcore gaming is scummvm :D
[09:24] <tomas_> :)
[09:24] <_hupp3l> noteventime: can I just copy your repos over mine?
[09:25] <tomas_> scummvm :p
[09:25] <noteventime> _hupp3l: how do you mean?
[09:25] <tomas_> CP SOURCES.LIST :o
[09:25] <DocTomoe> my sound just ceased to work under dapper - without updating anything. any ideas what to do?
[09:25] <tomas_> sorry guys :xp:
[09:25] <_hupp3l> like delete my repos in my sources.list file and copy in yours?
[09:25] <tomas_> im a little high tonight :p
[09:25] <noteventime> You should be able to, but you would get the swedish mirrors
[09:26] <noteventime> tomas_: dont tell me you havn't played monkey island?
[09:26] <tomas_> just change se to your countries prefix
[09:26] <_hupp3l> hmm I dont think that would matter too much
[09:26] <tomas_> noteventime: i have :p
[09:26] <tomas_> noteventime: 1-3
[09:26] <tomas_> and the 3d one too
[09:26] <comptoyou> how do I install crossover in ubuntu ?
[09:26] <tomas_> i like 3 the most :p
[09:26] <noteventime> nice
[09:26] <tomas_> doesnt crossover cost?
[09:26] <noteventime> same here
[09:26] <comptoyou> yup
[09:27] <noteventime> hehe
[09:27] <tomas_> noteventime: a pirate i was meant to be. trim the sails and roam the sea :p
[09:27] <noteventime> depends :D
[09:27] <noteventime> tomas_: This is just ridiculus
[09:27] <tomas_> noteventime :p
[09:27] <tomas_> i have the song somewhere :p
[09:27] <noteventime> tomas_: I have that one
[09:27] <tomas_> :p
[09:27] <noteventime> tomas_: I have 7:45 minutes of monkey island music XD
[09:28] <noteventime> 7h 45 min
[09:28] <tomas_> noteventime: noooooooooooo :gonk: lycko dig :p
[09:28] <hibatsu> How can I get gstreamer to work in amarok in dapper?
[09:28] <noteventime> www.scummbar.com
[09:28] <tid-wave> activate universe
[09:28] <tid-wave> and then install gstreamer-mad
[09:28] <hibatsu> already happened
[09:28] <hibatsu> and w32codecs
[09:29] <hibatsu> and ffmpeg installed
[09:29] <noteventime> tomas_: 295 lster, kan laddas ner frn www.scummbar.com
[09:29] <noteventime> ltar*
[09:29] <hibatsu> but I can't select the gstreamer-engine
[09:29] <tomas_> noteventime: :D
[09:29] <hibatsu> in the amarok menu
[09:29] <noteventime> tomas_: The problem is you have to download them one by one XD
[09:29] <tomas_> hey!
[09:29] <tomas_> noteventime: i can play mp3s in mplayer :p
[09:29] <noteventime> nice
[09:30] <noteventime> not in amaroK?
[09:30] <tomas_> noteventime: but not in amarok or kaffeine :p
[09:30] <noteventime> you have gstreamer-mad
[09:30] <apokryphos> tomas_: install amarok-xine
[09:30] <apokryphos> gstreamer0.8-mad to use the gstreamer engine
[09:30] <tomas_> mm
[09:30] <tomas_> i better remove it?
[09:30] <noteventime> It works for me :)
[09:30] <apokryphos> huh?
[09:30] <tomas_> oki
[09:32] <noteventime> Lets see how big they are gzipped
[09:32] <louis_> Hello
[09:32] <louis_> I have this:http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=30780
[09:32] <louis_> and i want to install it
[09:32] <tomas_> still it doesnt work :/
[09:32] <tomas_> just in mplayer :/
[09:32] <louis_> but in the KDM, when i browse to add a theme, it doesn't want to install
[09:32] <tomas_> noteventime: have you hear Puff The Magic Dragon :p ?
[09:33] <noteventime> You are not supposed to extract the files louis_
[09:33] <louis_> oh
[09:33] <noteventime> tomas_: MI song?
[09:33] <jpatrick> louis_: edit your /etc/kde3/kdm/kdmrc
[09:33] <pulver> hey! did a kubuntu server install to get encrypted ROOT.. it works in breezy but after upgrade to dapper i get devfs errors at boot. suspect the line '#kopt=root=/dev/mapper/root devfs=mount ro' in /boot/grub/menu.lst. any ideas how to make it right? im no guru...
[09:33] <tomas_> noteventime: MI?
[09:33] <noteventime> monkey island
[09:33] <louis_> pulver, then use ubuntu!
[09:33] <louis_> for a server install, that's the same thing
[09:34] <tomas_> noteventime: no :p
[09:34] <tomas_> noteventime: puff the magic dragon lived by the sea :p
[09:34] <noteventime> no :D
[09:34] <tomas_> noteventime: awesome song :p
[09:34] <pulver> louis_: the encryption problem is not ubuntu specific, so whats your point
[09:34] <louis_> noteventime: herm. :/ it doesn't find the configuration file
[09:34] <tomas_> noteventime: oh puff the magic dragon :p
[09:35] <louis_> pulver: my point is: why using Kubuntu, with a bit less support then Ubuntu, if you run only console mode
[09:35] <robotgeek> louis_: cause kde > gnome :)
[09:35] <louis_> robotgeek , i know
[09:36] <louis_> but in console only (server), what's the difference?
[09:36] <pulver> louis_: well was just asking if someone had experienced the same thing and had any ideas. never mind i'll figure it out..eventually
[09:36] <robotgeek> louis_: yeah, no difference
[09:36] <noteventime> tomas_: Accept the transfer :)
[09:36] <louis_> heh :)
[09:36] <louis_> noteventime , it says that it don't find the config file :/
[09:37] <tomplast_mekar> aha you can send files :p
[09:37] <tomplast_mekar> slow speed :p
[09:38] <tomas_> do you have msn noteventime?
[09:38] <noteventime> Yes
[09:38] <tomas_> can i have yours?
[09:38] <noteventime><EMAIL_ADDRESS>[09:38] <tomas_> :)
[09:39] <noteventime> Wel try there instead XD
[09:39] <noteventime> Was way to slow
[09:40] <noteventime> spaceprogrammer?
[09:40] <tomas_> ^^
[09:41] <jpatrick> it is not wise to surf as root
[09:41] <pulver> :)
[09:42] <seg-fault> I know I'm currently in Single user mode... Having issues with my Dlink wireless and Dapper
[09:43] <louis_> does anyone have/know a pack to transform my Kubuntu into MacOsX look?
[09:43] <seg-fault> Interesting issue. Kernel picks up wlan0 card ..but the link light only lights up during initialization.
[09:44] <noteventime> louis_ use baghira
[09:44] <louis_> what is this?
[09:45] <noteventime> A theme
[09:45] <noteventime> Or rather a pack of themes
[09:45] <louis_> oh
[09:45] <noteventime> Do you know how o change themes?
[09:46] <louis_> yeah :)
[09:46] <louis_> i just had trouble with kdm ;/
[09:46] <louis_> and still
[09:47] <noteventime> Do you habe theme KDM manager installed
[09:47] <noteventime> The channel is a bit more calm now
[09:48] <louis_> yeah
[09:48] <louis_> oh
[09:48] <louis_> is it installed in kubuntu?
[09:48] <louis_> by default
[09:50] <louis_> hum
[09:50] <louis_> noteventime, will baghira replace kde?
[09:51] <kylev> ... and I crashed adept
[09:53] <noteventime> lous_: sorry im back now, no
[09:53] <louis_> ;p
[09:53] <noteventime> lous_: Its only a KDM theme
[09:53] <louis_> k
[09:53] <noteventime> search baghira in adept
[09:55] <NRG88> when i try to play a dvd, it appears on only half a screen, even in fullscreen mode in mplayer
[09:55] <NRG88> why? :(
[09:57] <noteventime> NRG88: What player?
[09:57] <NRG88> mplayer
[09:57] <hugelmopf> NRG88: choose another video outpu
[09:58] <hugelmopf> t
[09:58] <louis_> noteventime , thanks
[09:58] <louis_> and other thing
[09:58] <hugelmopf> NRG88: xv
[09:58] <noteventime> sure
[09:58] <louis_> wait*
[09:58] <noteventime> I vill :)
[09:58] <louis_> :P okay ;)
[10:01] <hugelmopf> NRG88: does it work?
[10:01] <tomplast> nah, now its enough of this for today. bye everyone. goodnight in some hours
[10:02] <NRG88> 1 min
[10:02] <noteventime> bye
[10:03] <NRG88> strange, the dvd doesn't mount
[10:03] <dirk_> hey
[10:03] <noteventime> 'ello
[10:04] <dirk_> i need some help
[10:04] <noteventime> Just ask :D
[10:05] <louis_> noteventime , do you read french?
[10:05] <dirk_> one harddisk(my data harddisk to switch files with windows) doesnt work
[10:05] <noteventime> louis_: Just very very very very little :P
[10:05] <louis_> ok
[10:05] <louis_> i'll make a screenshot for you of the problem with my kdm
[10:05] <NRG88> dirk_, more details?
[10:05] <noteventime> dirk_: you can get the files directly from the windows disk
[10:05] <kubby510> can someone help me get hotplug working?
[10:06] <noteventime> louis_: sure
[10:06] <dirk_> and it says Mount:can't find /dev/hdc6 in ect/fstab or ect/mtab
[10:06] <noteventime> Then you have to add it :)
[10:06] <tigerkub> can someone tell me what files arr important for hotplug?
[10:07] <syl> hi
[10:07] <dirk_> wit what parameters?
[10:07] <syl> i have kubuntu 5.10 and hibernate dont work
[10:08] <syl> it say in log
[10:08] <syl> hibernate: [10]  Executing EnsureSwsusp2Capable ...
[10:08] <syl> Your kernel does not have any recent Software Suspend 2 support compiled in.
[10:08] <dirk_> (im using dapper drake flight 4)
[10:08] <ciga> hi
[10:09] <louis_> :)
[10:09] <dirk_> what parameters do i have to ad?
[10:09] <NRG88> hugelmopf,
[10:09] <NRG88> thanks, it works
[10:10] <ciga> I try to compile amarok from trunk on breezy with kde 3.5.1. It fails with an errors: threadweaver.h:101: error: ISO C++ forbids declaration of QMutex with no type
[10:10] <ciga> anyone can help me with this?
[10:11] <dirk_> some one please help!
[10:11] <louis_> noteventime , notice me your e-mail please
[10:11] <_b> is there a way to list a unknow drive partions like xp diskmanager ?
[10:12] <Metalface> ?
[10:13] <dirk_> some one please help?
[10:13] <louis_> noteventime :)
[10:13] <noteventime> back
[10:13] <noteventime> sorrt
[10:15] <louis_> :)
[10:15] <louis_> notice me your e-mail please
[10:15] <louis_> i'll send ya the screenshot
[10:15] <noteventime> !pastebin
[10:15] <ubotu> it has been said that pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org - Install webboard for easy pasting from the gnome taskbar :)
[10:15] <noteventime> you use that -^
[10:16] <louis_> well!
[10:16] <louis_> nice
[10:16] <noteventime> :))
[10:16] <_hupp3l> noteventime: I still cant get vlc to install
[10:17] <noteventime> hmmm
[10:17] <louis_> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/i9319
[10:18] <louis_> traduction: "Impossible to load theme's configuration file."
[10:19] <noteventime> hmmm, i actualy could read that :D
[10:19] <louis_> ;)
[10:20] <noteventime> hmm...
[10:20] <noteventime> I'll take a look at the theme
[10:20] <louis_> k
[10:21] <noteventime> It works for me
[10:21] <louis_> huh o_O
[10:21] <noteventime> just enter http://www.kde-look.org/content/download.php?content=30780&id=1&PHPSESSID=f67edaeb58f934613736d43df09cd74e in the location
[10:21] <noteventime> It will download and install automaticly
[10:21] <louis_> oh
[10:21] <louis_> ok :L)
[10:21] <louis_> -L
[10:22] <noteventime> Works better now?
[10:22] <louis_> i'll try
[10:23] <louis_> it's laggy because i'm installing limewire
[10:23] <noteventime> why not frostwire
[10:25] <louis_> same error, n
[10:25] <noteventime> :~( hmmm
[10:25] <louis_> ;/
[10:25] <noteventime> Thats strange
[10:25] <louis_> yay
[10:25] <noteventime> +
[10:25] <noteventime> ?
[10:25] <louis_> ?
[10:26] <noteventime> yay?
[10:26] <noteventime> Was it just ment as yes?
[10:26] <noteventime> or was it yay! as in yes it worked?
[10:26] <louis_> it was in yes, to agree that it's strange
[10:27] <louis_> omg
[10:27] <louis_> and limewire doesn't want to start ;/
[10:27] <noteventime> try frostwire
[10:27] <louis_> i installed limewire with alien
[10:28] <louis_> how i uninstall it?
[10:29] <noteventime> i have no idea dpkg --purge limewire?
[10:29] <louis_> i'll try
[10:29] <louis_> just apt-get remove limewire-free worked ;)
[10:30] <noteventime> nice
[10:31] <louis_> and where i find this "frostwire?"
[10:31] <noteventime> google ;)
[10:31] <dirk_> www.frostwire.com
[10:37] <Mrono> where be brenden
[10:38] <__mikem> is it posible to use screen resolutions higher than 1024x768 in kde
[10:38] <Mrono> yep
[10:38] <Mrono> i'm running at 1440x900
[10:38] <__mikem> I tried running kubuntu under vmware, and for the life of me couldn't get it to go higher than 1024x768
[10:38] <Mrono> need help setting it higher
[10:39] <Mrono> gotta configure the xorg
[10:39] <__mikem> I did that
[10:39] <Mrono> and.
[10:39] <__mikem> nothing happened
[10:39] <Mrono> did you restart X
[10:39] <__mikem> yes
[10:40] <__mikem> does it matter that it was running under vmware
[10:40] <Mrono> to be honest I don't even know what vmware is
[10:40] <__mikem> www.vmware.com
[10:41] <Mrono> so it's like virtual machine
[10:41] <louis_> me, i have an ati radeon 7000 with dual screen output, and i don't know how to activate the 2nd screen
[10:41] <louis_> Mrono it's
[10:41] <__mikem> thats exactly what it is
[10:41] <ciga> louis_: I think you should use fglrx
[10:41] <Mrono> I have an ati radon 9000 and I can't get the opengl or 3d acceleartion to work
[10:41] <ciga> __mikem: what driver do you use for xorg?
[10:41] <__mikem> the funny thing is I also have ubuntu (gnome based) running on another virtual machine and I can but that at what ever res I want
[10:42] <Mrono> ubuntu and kubuntu are the same thing
[10:42] <Mrono> just different window managers
[10:42] <louis_> ;) ok
[10:42] <seg-fault> I think mvware mught not allow access to the frame buffer
[10:42] <dragonkh> hi
[10:42] <Mrono> KDM and GDM
[10:42] <__mikem> Mrono I know thats what befuddles me
[10:42] <Mrono> not sure
[10:42] <ciga> __mikem: prolly cos you are running ubuntu without vmware, right?
[10:42] <louis_> ciga: , it's installing!
[10:42] <louis_> thanks
[10:42] <Mrono> hobbsee
[10:42] <dragonkh> how do I remove the first entry in an array?
[10:42] <Mrono> you here
[10:42] <__mikem> I have both running under vmware
[10:42] <dragonkh> pop ?
[10:43] <ciga> dragonkh: pop is the last, does not it?
[10:43] <dragonkh> shift
[10:43] <dragonkh> I think works
[10:44] <__mikem> ???????????
[10:44] <ciga> __mikem: maybe you need to copy the good xorg.conf to the one that is in vmware
[10:44] <kylev> adept seems to crash on the unzip update...
[10:44] <_b> !ntfs
[10:44] <ubotu> I heard ntfs is the filesystem used in Windows 2000 and newer; to automatically mount your NTFS partition: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions
[10:44] <ciga> __mikem: of course the one that was worked right inside vmware.
[10:44] <__mikem> Problem is I am not sure how to do that, don't worry about it for now, Ill live with it
[10:46] <__mikem> !wine
[10:46] <louis_> ciga
[10:46] <louis_> i have 1 tv output and 2 screen outputs.
[10:48] <Mrono> is there any way to mount an ntfs filesytstem as write
[10:48] <Mrono> hey mike
[10:48] <louis_> yeh
[10:48] <louis_> google it, i found something yesterday
[10:48] <Mrono> I have a working wine repository
[10:48] <Mrono> if ya want it
[10:49] <Mrono> deb http://wine.sourceforge.net/apt/ binary/
[10:49] <__mikem> I already have wine, I have been trying to get rhapsody jukebox to run under it
[10:49] <Mrono> ah
[10:50] <Mrono> I got UT to run under it
[10:50] <Mrono> i'm happy
[10:50] <Mrono> lol
[10:50] <louis_> is it possible to convert Kubuntu into Ubuntu easy?
[10:50] <Mrono> yep
[10:50] <__mikem> I got Bejeweled 2 to run under it
[10:50] <Mrono> install the GDM and remove the KDE
[10:50] <Mrono> KDM
[10:50] <__mikem> YOu don't need to remove kde
[10:50] <Mrono> true
[10:50] <__mikem> you can have both on the same box
[10:50] <__mikem> like me
[10:51] <kosh> yeah you can be crazy just like __mikem ;)
[10:51] <kosh> just teasing
[10:51] <Mrono> is it possible to chage the size of the linux partition easy?
[10:51] <__mikem> lol
[10:51] <louis_> but Mrono, is it gonna be easy?
[10:51] <__mikem> Yup
[10:52] <Mrono> lol
[10:52] <louis_> and does all the kde shits will stay there?
[10:52] <louis_> configs?
[10:52] <Mrono> I have a duek biit
[10:52] <louis_> and shares? icons?
[10:52] <Mrono> duel boot winxp
[10:52] <__mikem> Its as easy as opening your faorite package manager, and finding the right package
[10:52] <Mrono> so I want to make a fat32 partition to be read by both
[10:53] <__mikem> *faVorite
[10:53] <Mrono> brb
[10:53] <Mrono> eat
[10:53] <__mikem> hb
[10:53] <_hupp3l> what program can I use to show my stats and like batterylife on my desktop?
[10:53] <_hupp3l> something like konfabulator or samurize?
[10:53] <noteventime> super karamba
[10:53] <__mikem> Atleast on my laptop, ubuntu already does that
[10:53] <kylev> ... and there goes adept again
[10:54] <_hupp3l> super karamba?
[10:54] <_hupp3l> will it come with dapper?
[10:54] <noteventime> I dont think so
[10:55] <noteventime> There will be an equvivalent thing in KDE4 though
[10:55] <__mikem> I wonder what KDE4 will be like
[10:55] <noteventime> super cool X)
[10:55] <__mikem> no doubt
[10:55] <jpatrick> _hupp3l: it is in Dapper
[10:55] <__mikem> !kde
[10:55] <ubotu> it has been said that kde is A powerful, free desktop environment for UNIX. IRC: #kubuntu #kde ; install from Ubuntu: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop ; ISOs: http://releases.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/breezy/
[10:56] <_hupp3l> whereunder?
[10:56] <__mikem> !kde4
[10:56] <ubotu> it has been said that kde4 is http://www.canllaith.org/svn-features/kde4.html
[10:58] <_b> anyone using a old 2,5 drive in usb chase here ?
[11:09] <rocafella> How do I change my default display manager in kubunu? I want it to start xdm on boot instead of KDM
[11:10] <__mikem> dpkg-reconfigure xdm
[11:10] <__mikem> something like that
[11:11] <rocafella> thanks, mikem
[11:11] <flixor> is there a special dapper channel
[11:13] <arrinmurr> well, there's #ubuntu+1
[11:13] <flixor> oke anybody overhere installed dapper
[11:16] <rocafella> how do I disable the tap to click function on my laptop? it is getting pretty annoying
[11:18] <cadfael> 'lo all, anyone around to give a noob some help?
[11:18] <__mikem> only another noob
[11:18] <Mrono> hi
[11:18] <Mrono> ditto
[11:18] <cadfael> Oi.
[11:19] <cadfael> Well.  I am have two problems.
[11:19] <cadfael> First, Kubuntu seems unable to reboot the box.  It just goes to sleep or something.  This happened during the initial install and every time after.
[11:20] <cadfael> Second, even tho I have all the repos enabled in Adept, I know I am not seeing the correct number of packages.
[11:20] <cadfael> See http://pastebin.com/572403 ,,, that's my sources list
[11:21] <__mikem> I am considering just installing vmware on this laptop and using reactos or something
[11:23] <spiritz> I'm struggling to make my fglrx driver 8.22.5 to work on dapper. I get stuck because of a weird message "did you mean tab instead of 8 spaces" when doing module-assistant. Has anyone expercienced this?
[11:23] <cadfael> can anyone open up adept and see how many packages you have available?  I show 16886, my other kubuntu box shows ~17k
[11:23] <cadfael> spiritz: no, sorry
[11:26] <spiritz> thanks anyway :)
[11:28] <robotgeek> spiritz: in a make file, you have to have tabs instead of spaces somewhere
[11:29] <spiritz> ok
[11:29] <spiritz> I'll have a look
[11:29] <spiritz> how can ATI provide drivers with such a mistake?:o
[11:29] <Biff`> It's ATI.
[11:30] <spiritz> ;)
[11:30] <spiritz> actually I have no idea what the module-assistant is triggering
[11:31] <hDp`> ET merc dispo
[11:32] <cadfael> I know nothing about graphics cards, but someone just clued me in that the Radeon that comes with this box (OEM) somehow "shares" ram with the comp
[11:32] <cadfael> instead of having its own onboard memory, apparently, it sucks down like 128m of system ram
[11:32] <spiritz> maybe but not mine
[11:33] <spiritz> this is shared memory, low cost video card have such "feature"... but most of ati cards are not low cost ones
[11:33] <brodel> a lot of cards do that now.
[11:33] <Mrono> I hate shared memory
[11:33] <Mrono> it decreises the gfx performence
[11:33] <Mrono> anf unfortunately I have one
[11:34] <spiritz> which one do u have? the intel something?
[11:35] <Mrono> ati
[11:35] <Mrono> ati radon 9000
[11:35] <spiritz> ok it's a old one
[11:35] <Mrono> which is stupid
[11:35] <Mrono> cuz this computer is brand new
[11:35] <Mrono> well
[11:35] <spiritz> I m not even sure ati is providing support for this one through their drivers, right?
[11:35] <Mrono> mabye a few months old
[11:35] <Mrono> they should be
[11:37] <NRG88> why can't i eject a cd from the device itself? i need to rightclick and eject from linux
[11:37] <spiritz> NRG88: it required to be unmounted before ejecting
[11:38] <brodel> I hate that too NRG88
[11:38] <NRG88> :(
[11:40] <Mrono> mines ejects just fine
[11:41] <cadfael> shared ram is a stupid idea
[11:41] <cadfael> I mean sure it's cheap
[11:41] <cadfael> but why would I pay for a video card except to take some load off the system?
[11:41] <Mrono> yep
[11:41] <Mrono> this laptop is 3.33ghz
[11:41] <Mrono> 1gb ram
[11:42] <Mrono> 100gb HD
[11:42] <Mrono> 17in screen
[11:42] <cadfael> It will be fine once I get more RAM perhaps, but this one just came with 256m (got it offa craigslist, don't laugh)
[11:42] <Mrono> and they put an ati radon 9000 with 128mb shared rn
[11:42] <Biff`> haha
[11:42] <cadfael> shut up Chris
[11:42] <Biff`> I have some "unaccounted for" ram at work.
[11:42] <cadfael> you don't say...
[11:43] <Mrono> heh
[11:43] <brodel> best laptop I've ever owned
[11:43] <cadfael> any chance you could just...misplace one of the alienware boxes?
[11:43] <Mrono> they are cheap bastards
[11:43] <Biff`> I just had to send 2 alienware laptops back for service.
[11:43] <Mrono> this laptop overheats
[11:43] <Mrono> screens going
[11:43] <cadfael> it's not overheating.  it is a lap warmer.
[11:43] <brodel> vaios
[11:43] <Mrono> has mem problems
[11:43] <Mrono> unconfirmed
[11:44] <brodel> sounds like my sony I had hehe
[11:44] <Mrono> I ran a mem test and it did 9 passes with 0 error
[11:44] <Biff`> I have an old Vaio at work... Kubuntu works great on it... can't get XP to run at optimal resolution at all.
[11:44] <Mrono> It's like a fricking jumbo jet
[11:44] <Mrono> loud
[11:44] <coolio10> hi
[11:44] <Mrono> xp works great on it because of all the damn drivers I have to use to get it to work right
[11:44] <brodel> I have dropped my toshiba pretty hard a few times and worried it wouldn't work again. the worst that ever happened is the speaker cover popped off.
[11:44] <cadfael> We should see if we can get Dave to donate it.
[11:44] <Mrono> I like dells
[11:44] <Biff`> brodel ... is it a toughbook?
[11:44] <cadfael> Tell him it's broken
[11:45] <brodel> Biff`:  no
[11:45] <brodel> just an old-ish satellite
[11:45] <Mrono> mines a p35-s111
[11:45] <Mrono> satellite
[11:45] <Biff`> cadfael ... it won't even POST ... dout it's even usefull as a boat anchor.
[11:45] <Mrono> I set it on a bed and in 30 sec it overheats
[11:46] <coolio10> how do you use wine?
[11:46] <Biff`> apt -get install wine
[11:46] <Biff`> wine yourprogram.exe
[11:46] <Biff`> I'm chatting with mIRC via wine.
[11:46] <Mrono> really
[11:46] <Mrono> mine closes after a fedw min
[11:46] <brodel> haha
[11:46] <cadfael> are you just too good for Konversation?   It wants its PC back.
[11:53] <Mrono> it's running rather well
[11:54] <_b> im running old epia 500 mhz
[11:54] <cadfael> So today I find my roommate had halflife 2.  I never got to play it (was running a p3/500 when it was out) so now I'm all excited
[11:54] <cadfael> up until it asks for a CD key.  "Ozzy, have you got the CD key?"  "What CD key?"
[11:55] <cadfael> "The one that came with the game, and the manuals, in the box."
[11:55] <_b> lol!
[11:55] <cadfael> He's all "I thought steam would just register it for you."
[11:56] <cadfael> ok brb reboot
[11:57] <reidms> Can someone please help me, I am having serious problems!
[11:57] <Mrono> lol
[11:57] <_b> u re online it cant be that serious !
[11:57] <Mrono> wee
[11:57] <Mrono> I got my mirc back
[11:57] <Mrono> happy days
[11:58] <reidms> Im using a live CD
[11:58] <_b> ops
[11:58] <Mrono> I'm going to try to run linux on my server
[11:58] <Mrono> see if it works
[11:58] <Mrono> I may end up doing that
[11:59] <reidms> I had Kubuntu booting fine, then I tried to install Fedora Core 4 and it wouldnt work.  I reinstalled Kubuntu and now when I try to boot it all it is a a blinking curser.
[12:00] <NRG88> if i go under ctrl+alt+f1 for example, how do i return?
[12:01] <reidms> What do you think I did?  Did I destroy my MBR?  Kubuntu says that I installed grub, but grub wont come up.
[12:01] <Mrono> ctrl+alt+f7
[12:01] <Mrono> I use it as like a restore thing
[12:01] <NRG88> thanks Mrono
[12:01] <Mrono> incase something in the xwindow screwes up
[12:01] <Mrono> and I cant get to a console
[12:02] <Mrono> I just do that and do ps -x to show all the processes
[12:02] <NRG88> yeah, vmware screewed it up for me last time
[12:02] <Mrono> and kill what I need
[12:02] <NRG88> i did the same thing, only didn't know how to come back :D i used ctrl+alt+f8
[12:02] <NRG88> and the f11 i think, and could'n switch anymore
[12:03] <NRG88> these are terminals?
[12:03] <Mrono> y
[12:03] <Mrono> ep