[22:24] <not_phil_> I have a question about a wireless driver. I have a Realtek 8185 on a Gateway W340UI that shows up in lshw and under iwconfig. lsmod shows the driver however iwlist doesn't find any routers. Any ideas?
[22:25] <duffydack> Fizban140, usually resttricted extras is all you need...
[22:25] <int0x0c> Fizban140, You are going to produce the same exact issue
[22:25] <SudoKing> kd8JHC: =?
[22:25] <tmc> lfs recked ubuntu, how do i fix
[22:25] <erUSUL> Fizban140: no; in fact i go years without reinstalls just upgrade from one version to the other
[22:25] <Fizban140> thats what I did duffy, then firefox keeps crashing
[22:25] <Zampara> LaYnnnn
[22:25] <kd8JHC> or SudoCount
[22:25] <int0x0c> Fizban140, Which distribution version are you using?
[22:25] <scott9876> duffydack: so go to an older kernal and then finish the upgrade
[22:25] <Fizban140> UNR
[22:25] <sena--> SudoKing: have a look at this http://www.techsupportforum.com/alternative-computing/linux-support/107839-ubuntu-loads-then-goes-blank-screen-bahhh.html
[22:25] <ret_> erUSUL;  I did, yes
[22:25] <PoincareBot> PoincareBot is in the HOUSE!
[22:25] <PoincareBot> GIMME OP
[22:25] <jebblue> Fizban140 haven't reinstalled justu upgraded past several years on Ubuntu
[22:25] <duffydack> ruhaan, looks like its still trying to use the ppa
[22:25] <SudoKing> sena--: i can't open a web browser as i don't have a graphical interface :(
[22:25] <erUSUL> ret_: you did what??
[22:26] <Zampara> Ananizi sikiyim orospu evlatlari
[22:26] <mxldr> my splash screen are messed up in bitchx, how do i get the cool old splash screens?
[22:26] <Fizban140> firefox just carshes that is my only problem for now
[22:26] <ruhaan> duffydack, anyway to fix it?
[22:26] <ret_> erUSUL;  I saw ill effects when updating ubuntu's repos.
[22:26] <sena--> SudoKing: how are you chatting now
[22:26] <jebblue> Fizban140 maybe you have a memory issue or some other h/w issue
[22:26] <ret_> erUSUL;  $ sudo apt-get upgrade
[22:26] <ret_> Reading package lists... Error!
[22:26] <ret_> E: Could not open file /var/lib/dpkg/status - open (2 No such file or directory)
[22:26] <ret_> E: The package lists or status file could not be parsed or opened.
[22:26] <erUSUL> ret_: can you paste some of the errors ?
[22:26] <FloodBot1> ret_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:26] <ret_> erUSUL;  that's it.
[22:26] <SudoKing> sena--: irssi, console-based irc client
[22:26] <cyklo> Hi, the latest kernel upgrade has killed by Dell WiFi card. Can anyone point me to a URL on where/how to file this as a bug report?
[22:26] <Fizban140> I just bought this netbook five days ago, it is brand new out of the box
[22:26] <Flannel> mxldr: bitchX is't in the repositories anymore
[22:26] <kj23> Need help PLzz I cant access Linux when I boot up only windowss
[22:26] <duffydack> ruhaan, remove it completely (autoremove --purge vlc) remove the ppa, apt-get update and install vlc again
[22:26] <sena--> you can try to open it with w3m
[22:27] <erUSUL> ret_: and "ls /var/lib/dpkg/" what gives
[22:27] <Zampara> www.undernet.org
[22:27] <erUSUL> ?
[22:27] <Zampara> www.undernet.org
[22:27] <FloodBot1> Zampara: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:27] <SudoKing> dunno, i don't have a mouse cursor so i can't click on links ;-;
[22:27] <jebblue> cyklo if it is a Dell Ubuntu machine I'd start with Dell
[22:27] <Zampara> www.undernet.org
[22:27] <FloodBot1> Zampara: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:27] <sena--> SudoKing: w3m is console base browser
[22:27] <SudoKing> can you read me at least some of whats on it? :/
[22:27] <sena--> SudoKing: you dont need links you navigate with the arrows
[22:27] <duffydack> ruhaan, what version of ubuntu you using?
[22:28] <ruhaan> duffydack, 9.04
[22:28] <duffydack> ruhaan, any backports or anything enabled?
[22:28] <harrumph> just started a linode, man not found, how to add man pages?
[22:28] <mxldr> how do i fix the splash screens in bitchx?
[22:28] <ruhaan> nope nothing duffydack
[22:28] <sena--> SudoKing: try with w3m man there are no links there almost plain text
[22:28] <cyklo> jebblue, No, it's a machine I put Ubuntu 9.04 myself. Do I report it to Ubuntu's launchpad or somewhere else? Kernel -14 works but the latest -15 doesn't.
[22:28] <Fizban140> maybe I should uninstall UNR and try jolicloud
[22:28] <Fizban140> or win7
[22:28] <ret_> erUSUL;  Nothing is in there.
[22:28] <Lunis> Fizban140, no don't
[22:28] <erUSUL> ret_: :(
[22:28] <SudoKing> sena--: meaning i would have to remember your link, which is lost in the backlog now as i can't scroll up :p
[22:28] <kd8JHC> SudoMarquis: you can you can you can use w3m
[22:28] <Lunis> Fizban140, jolicloud is just UNR with a prism app installation interface, nothing more
[22:29] <SudoKing> kd8JHC: just call me SudoKing please :p
[22:29] <Flannel> mxldr: You should ask the bitchX people, since there may be a bug or other problem with your particular version.  bitchX isn't in the repositories, because of its security issues.  I strongly suggest you find another client.
[22:29] <sena--> SudoKing: ou
[22:29] <duffydack> ruhaan, well remove it completely, and do a find ~ -iname "*vlc*" and remove whatever is there for it.
[22:29] <OzFalcon> Eyop!
[22:29] <erUSUL> ret_: you said you deleted /var/log/dpkg but is /var/lib/dpkg/ what is empty ?
[22:29] <kd8JHC> SudoQueen: k:)
[22:29] <Fizban140> maybe I should reboot I have no idea
[22:29] <talntid> sudo make me a sandwich!
[22:29] <SudoKing> =/
[22:29] <Flannel> SudoKing: If you're on Karmic, #ubuntu+1 is the place you want to ask for support
[22:29] <jebblue> cyklo probably launchpad
[22:29] <OzFalcon> sudoka
[22:29] <sena--> SudoKing: dont you have the mouse cursor there to copy it
[22:30] <duffydack> ruhaan, then re-add the repo , update and install it.. I dont see what could stop it
[22:30] <Lunis> Fizban140, ok i wasn't here, what's the problem? lay it on me
[22:30] <SudoKing> sena--: nope, only a keyboard lol :/
[22:30] <kd8JHC> SudoKing: i'm just playing man, you know that I love you
[22:30] <kd8JHC> well, you do now
[22:30] <SudoKing> kd8JHC: uh....
[22:30] <DefineByte> ah well, I guess my problem is a local one. Thanks anyway. x)
[22:30] <Fizban140> firefox crashes after I installed ubuntu restricted files to get flash working
[22:30] <sena--> SudoKing: hm nice console situation
[22:30] <kd8JHC> SudoKing: in a friendly way.. the way God loves you
[22:30] <talntid> !dontaskdonttellpolicy | kd8JHC
[22:31]  * n3mo`sleep Лека вечер.
[22:31] <Lunis> ubottu, botsnack
[22:31] <sena--> SudoKing: ok it says after ctrl alt f1 when you get the login prompt
[22:31] <Lunis> lol! new one
[22:31] <jebblue> Fizban140 I use Flash from Adobe http://www.adobe.com/products/flashplayer/
[22:31] <duffydack> Fizban140, 64bit user?
[22:31] <Fizban140> no
[22:31] <Fizban140> eee pc 1005ha
[22:31] <Flannel> sena--, SudoKing: again, if you're running Karmic, support is in #ubuntu+1, not here, thanks.
[22:31] <SudoKing> sena--, it's not even close to loading the display manager and x server
[22:31] <sena--> SudoKing: to configure your card to use the generic vesa drivers with commands like
[22:31] <ruhaan> duffydack, weirdly i installed from synpatic and it worked thanks anyway :)
[22:31] <talntid> ubottu: botsnack
[22:31] <talntid> ubottu: botsnack
[22:32] <SudoKing> after the kubuntu loading screen
[22:32] <talntid> oh, not random
[22:32] <duffydack> Fizban140, intel video card?
[22:32] <Flannel> talntid: Please stop absing the bot
[22:32] <peteyp1> HI
[22:32] <SudoKing> a flashing text cursor on a blank screen :/
[22:32] <kd8JHC> lol
[22:32] <cyklo> jebblue thanks. Are there any useful commands to run for diagnostic data to submit with? Wireless is on eth1, and the device doesn't even appear on the new kernel.
[22:32] <Fizban140> I think so
[22:32] <talntid> he likes it, Flannel
[22:32] <kd8JHC> !fail talntid
[22:32] <froglet> I installed Googleearth but when I start it, I do not see any data
[22:32] <Lunis> Fizban140, there's a package for flash, restricted isn't needed
[22:32] <peteyp1> back again..
[22:32] <peteyp1> :)
[22:32] <froglet> anyone know how I get the data?
[22:32] <Fizban140> well I did restricted, is that bad
[22:32] <PoincareBot> PoincareBot is in the HOUSE!
[22:32] <PoincareBot> GIMME OP
[22:32] <Flannel> talntid: No, she doesn't.  Nor do I, nor anyone else in this channel.
[22:32] <duffydack> Fizban140, I have a netbook with intel gma and its fine...
[22:32] <kj23> Can some1 Plz help for a sec all i need to know is how to access my linux partition when i boot up?????
[22:33] <Lunis> Fizban140, i would purge the package you installed and install adobe-flashplugin
[22:33] <PoincareBot> PoincareBot is in the HOUSE!
[22:33] <PoincareBot> GIMME OP
[22:33] <Fizban140> well I ufcked something up real good with mine then
[22:33] <SudoKing> language :O
[22:33] <froglet> !ohmy
[22:33] <sena--> SudoKing: dpkg --configure -a, dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg, dpkg-reconfigure gdm, sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.backup, sudo vi /etc/X11/xorg.conf, this is for your xorg.conf
[22:33] <sena--> Section "Monitor"
[22:33] <sena-->     Identifier     "Philips 170B" #or whatever your monitor is
[22:33] <sena-->     Option         "DPMS"
[22:33] <sena-->     HorizSync    30-71
[22:33] <sena-->     VertRefresh  50-160
[22:33] <sena--> EndSection
[22:33] <FloodBot1> sena--: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:33] <SudoKing> sena--: o_O
[22:33] <jebblue> cyklo Try running System | Admin | System Testing also maybe ifconfig in a terminal
[22:33] <duffydack> Fizban140,  cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | grep exa
[22:33] <talntid> sudo rm /home/Flannel/Ass/stick
[22:33] <Fizban140> whats that?
[22:34] <Hosein-mec> hi , how much download " pbuilder --create " command ?
[22:34] <datta> is there any trick to increase my internet speed in ubuntu?
[22:34] <duffydack> Fizban140, just determines what mode its using
[22:34] <jebblue> cyklo that should be a good start
[22:34] <arvind_khadri> adalal, i need to do ssh -X from the server or from the client?
[22:34] <duffydack> Fizban140, no output means not using that mode.
[22:34] <datta> i am supposed to get a better speed and the people in the company cant help me cause i use ubuntu
[22:34] <jebblue> cyklo also include the /etc/network/interfaces file(s)
[22:34] <duffydack> Fizban140, in which case do... cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | grep uxa
[22:34] <datta> i saw that there was a lot of tricks for the windows systems
[22:34] <jiksun> hi all, can you someone pls help me with fixing wireless on a brand new hp mini 110?
[22:34] <peteyp1> been formatting a 1.3TiB external disk for at least 7 hours with a live cd.. the bar doesn't seem to show anything much new and I cant tell if it's stalled or not. On top of that, the drive doesn't seem to be making many uh noises
[22:35] <Fizban140> says no suc file or directory
[22:35] <peteyp1> Is there any way to check activity? I tried the system log but it crashes when I open it
[22:35] <Fizban140> my terminal is messed up, wonti nput
[22:35] <adalal> arvind_khadri: from the client...
[22:35] <RHorse> jiksun can you be a lil more specific?
[22:35] <jebblue> cyklo also if you have it installed, System Tools | Sysinfo
[22:35] <adalal> arvind_khadri: if u want to run a gui program
[22:35] <adalal> from the server
[22:35] <kj23> asldfk as
[22:35] <kj23> Df;
[22:35] <kj23> asdf
[22:36] <duffydack> Fizban140, should exist.  I dont know what you have done but doesnt sound good
[22:36] <wl> Hi, anyone had any experiences with the "netbook remix" edition and a HP 2140 mini?
[22:36] <Fizban140> I havent done anything
[22:36] <Flannel> kj23: Your question is vague, however, I believe you want to follow the guide here
[22:36] <Flannel> !grub | kj23
[22:36] <jiksun> RHorse - sure, I've just installed UNR, and my netbook is running Broadcom STA wireless - it can detect networks, but it doesn't connect for some reaso
[22:36] <kj23> thx!
[22:36] <wl> I tried to use a live usb stick (copied with dd), the first two times I tried to boot it, I got a kernel panic (?), afterwards the screen stayed black.
[22:37] <Paragon> Hi, I Just installed ubuntu and everything is ok with the exception that my screen resolution has a max value of 640x480
[22:37] <Fizban140> worked that time
[22:37] <duffydack> Fizban140, what Xorg logs exist in /var/log ?
[22:37] <RHorse> jiksun uggh! broadcom
[22:37] <Paragon> Does anyone know how to fix this?
[22:37] <arvind_khadri> adalal, oh ok, i did ssh -X and ran mocp, but still the sound is there, not here
[22:37] <duffydack> ugh
[22:37] <Fizban140> whats that?
[22:37] <adalal> arvind_khadri: hmm... i'll try finding out on it
[22:38] <DefineByte> jebblue: thanks I missed your reply earlier. :)
[22:38] <cyklo> jebblue, thanks for your help. I'll make a few files and then submit when I've booted back to the working kernel. Thanks.
[22:38] <arvind_khadri> adalal, thanks, could you hand me out the pointer you are referring to ?
[22:38] <jiksun> RHorse - yeah I know! I haven't been able to find much about it online. Is this a common problem?
[22:38] <duffydack> Fizban140, what worked
[22:38] <adalal> arvind_khadri: what pointer :S?
[22:38] <Fizban140> the first line
[22:38] <RHorse> jiksun which model?
[22:38] <Fizban140> bunch of text came out
[22:38] <datta> please tell me some tricks to increase the speed of my system and the internet
[22:39] <erUSUL> !intel
[22:39] <arvind_khadri> adalal, i meant if you are referring any blog or forum :)
[22:39] <duffydack> Fizban140, so its using exa then
[22:39] <gqpolo> avi driver installation
[22:39] <adalal> arvind_khadri: i'll let you know, so far it's been off what i know, but i'll definitely let you know if i come across anything
[22:39] <duffydack> Fizban140, off-hand, is compiz enabled?
[22:39] <sena--> Paragon: you can edit this in your /etc/X11/xorg.conf file, or better firs install the apropriate driver for your graphics card
[22:40] <Fizban140> whats compiz?
[22:40] <Fizban140> I am a windows user
[22:40] <arvind_khadri> adalal, thanks a lot, i too will google :)
[22:40] <jiksun> RHorse - Broadcom 4312 wireless with ubuntu netbook remix
[22:40] <duffydack> Fizban140, extra effects
[22:40] <blaenk_> !compiz | Fizban140
[22:40] <sena--> Paragon: cos the genreic driver vesa will not support high resolutions
[22:40] <blaenk_> Fizban140: if you check it out I'm pretty sure you'll like it
[22:40] <duffydack> Fizban140, in your Appearances options
[22:41] <arvind_khadri> gqpolo, System->Administration->Hardware drivers doesnt have it??
[22:41] <RHorse> jiksun 9.04?
[22:41] <froglet> jiksun is this an HP 2133?
[22:41] <jiksun> RHorse - yeah the netbook version of 9.04
[22:41] <gqpolo> no i just did a fresh install didnt even use update manager yet and my hardware driver list is blank
[22:42] <datta> my regular diskcheck does not seem to come up even after a lot of boots
[22:42] <froglet> oh I just used regular Ubuntu not the netbook one that one does not work with the 2133
[22:42] <jiksun> Froglet - Nope, it's the HP Mini 110 - 1059tu
[22:42] <datta> why might that have also happened?
[22:42] <froglet> k
[22:42] <gqpolo> any ideas?
[22:43] <RHorse> jiksun the netbook remix is irrelevant - the kernel is the same
[22:44] <gqpolo> i can't believe it is this difficult to install a driver I must be missing something!!
[22:44] <ejn85> i may not be in the right room... i am a first time linux user and i am trying to connect to a windows remote desktop and dont know how. can i get some help?
[22:44] <Fizban140> I can go to some sites but then firefox crashes after 15 seconds or so
[22:44] <RHorse> jiksun you can start here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1092870
[22:44] <jiksun> RHorse - ah, I see. I was going to try the regular version and see if that would make any difference, but I guess not then.
[22:44] <jiksun> RHorse - hey thanks, I'll check it out now.
[22:45] <peteyp1> ugh
[22:45] <jebblue> ejn85 http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-52727.html
[22:46] <peteyp1> cant open the messsage.log - text editor crashes on startup
[22:46] <peteyp1> (trying to see if my reformatting of an external drive has died)
[22:46] <peteyp1> perhaps someone could help ?
[22:46] <RHorse> jiksun want to do a few tests on the command line?
[22:46] <dabukalam> hi all i'm having problem's getting a canon MP540 to work on ubuntu 64-bit. It works fine on 32-bit, and there are no 64-bit drivers, so i simply installed the package by forcing architecture, now it gives me the error "/usr/lib/cups/filter/pstocanonij failed"
[22:46] <jebblue> ejn85 or Internet | REmote DEsktop Viewer?
[22:47] <dabukalam> !repeat > peteyp1
[22:47] <jiksun> RHorse - sure thing, what do you want me to type?
[22:47] <sebsebseb> hi
[22:47] <peteyp1> oh ok
[22:47] <peteyp1> sorry! :)
[22:47] <sena--> peteyp1: try tail -f /var/log/message
[22:47] <kj23> what do i type in the terminal to get my command line back
[22:47] <thiebaude> sebsebseb, hello
[22:47] <kj23> :q or something
[22:48] <ejn85> jebblue: thanks, i'll read that and see if it does the trick
[22:48] <RHorse> jiksun PM the results of iwconfig
[22:48] <sebsebseb> thiebaude: hi
[22:48] <gqpolo> can anyone  give a semi-new linux user help installing ati driver?
[22:48] <peteyp1> in the console ?
[22:48] <sena--> peteyp1: yes in the condole
[22:48] <sebsebseb> qe2eqe: hmm ATI and 9.04
[22:48] <sena--> *condole
[22:48] <sebsebseb> qe2eqe: your on 9.04?
[22:48] <sena--> *console
[22:49] <jebblue> ejn85 np you can also type remote desktop viewer in Synaptic, several come up
[22:49] <peteyp1> ok that was helpfull sena
[22:49] <peteyp1> thanks
[22:49] <peteyp1> :)
[22:49] <RHorse> jiksun wait a sec! that box has a pcmcia slot?
[22:50] <sena--> peteyp1: np :)
[22:50] <jiksun> RHorse - no it doesn't, why?
[22:50] <jjwdesign> I have a rather large bit of code in a component that build out my conditional for find().  I'm wondering if it's ok to have numeric indices/keys?
[22:51] <peteyp1> sena - is there a paste link for text?
[22:51] <sebsebseb> !ati |  qe2eqe
[22:51] <peteyp1> or is it ok in here
[22:51] <jjwdesign> Or, if anyone knows a way of removing the numeric parts of the array.
[22:51] <jjwdesign> oops... wrong channel... sorry
[22:51] <peteyp1> I'd like to know if my logs are normal for reformatting an external drive. Currently its just spamming the same messages over and over again in a constant cycle
[22:52] <ejn85> jebblue: in Remote Desktop Viewer in the "host" field do i just type the computer name? when i do that it acts like it is going to connect then it says "host":5900 connection lost.
[22:52] <qe2eqe> sebsebseb, yes and yes... but I haven't posted a message in this channel for days?
[22:52] <ratapoil> what's the package I should get to play MP3s?
[22:52] <sena--> peteyp1: tail is just a reader you can not paste text
[22:53] <Fizban140> son of a fucking bitch
[22:53] <sena--> peteyp1: why do you want to paste text inside your log files
[22:53] <qe2eqe> !ohmy Fizban140
[22:53] <Fizban140> UNR auto install gave me a home folder with 30 free mb
[22:53] <peteyp1> nooo
[22:53] <peteyp1> I meant paste to this channel
[22:53] <peteyp1> :)
[22:53] <jebblue> ejn85 should just be the host or host:port
[22:53] <Fizban140> time to reinstall again it looks like
[22:53] <sebsebseb> qe2eqe: oh I have done it again messaged wrong person ah, this time when I was meant to have messaged gqpolo
[22:53] <peteyp1> sena
[22:53] <jebblue> ejn85 open a terminal and type "rdesktop yourhost"
[22:53] <sena--> peteyp1: use http://pastebin.com/
[22:54] <peteyp1> thanks :)
[22:54] <ninja_> boas
[22:54] <peteyp1> so might I ask indeed sena . or anyone knowledgeable in this... http://pastebin.com/m218e2ab2 anything odd with that
[22:55] <gqpolo> can someone suggest a better channel for help installing ati driver?
[22:55] <peteyp1> its principly this repeating over and over
[22:55] <jebblue> ejn85 3389 is the default Windows REmote Desktop port, your error said 5900 makes me think you are using a VNC client not a rdesktop client that's why I suggested the terminal BTW
[22:55] <peteyp1> or rather the end parts
[22:55] <Fizban140> linux is so hard to use, is there not an easy way to see what my main drive is and how big it is>
[22:55] <ejn85> jebblue i get this:  ERROR: getaddrinfo: Name or service not known
[22:56] <jebblue> ejn85 in a terminal try "ping yourhost"
[22:56] <Fizban140> UNR is stupid
[22:56] <jebblue> ejn85 or "nslookup your host"
[22:56] <dabukalam> Fizban140: click on places > home folder
[22:56] <Fizban140> it had 160 gigs to make an OS out of and it used just enoug hwith 25 mb to spare
[22:56] <Fizban140> I dont see places
[22:56] <sena--> peteyp1: can you copy and delete normally from to that harddrive
[22:56] <dabukalam> Fizban140: click on filesystem then right click somewhere empty and click on properties
[22:57] <dabukalam> Fizban140: places is at the top left
[22:57] <peteyp1> neither.. it's a brand new drive that I'm trying to make recognizeable in ext3 format
[22:57] <dabukalam> Fizban140: I assume you're using ubuntu?
[22:57] <peteyp1> i've formatting the file tables
[22:57] <peteyp1> and its been working on formatting ext3 for about 7 hours
[22:57] <peteyp1> quite... a long time
[22:57] <Fizban140> I am using UNR
[22:57] <jebblue> ejn85 it could be the name of the windows host is a NetBIOS name only WINS would know, try to find the TC/IP host name, in Windows, at a command prompt type "hostname" that should be the TCP/IP host you can use
[22:57] <sena--> peteyp1: aha
[22:58] <dabukalam> hi all i'm having problems getting a canon MP540 to work on ubuntu 64-bit. It works fine on 32-bit, and there are no 64-bit drivers, so i simply installed the package by forcing architecture, now it gives me the error "/usr/lib/cups/filter/pstocanonij failed"
[22:58] <sena--> peteyp1: how did you format it
[22:58] <peteyp1> but it is a 1.3+ terrabyte drive
[22:58] <Fizban140> I am about to give up, I havent gone 15 minutes without some sort of computer crippling problem for the past 4 days
[22:58] <peteyp1> with gparted
[22:58] <ejn85> jebblue ok, i will try that. brb
[22:58] <peteyp1> I deleted previous attempts to format in my icy box nas storage enclosure, created new tables and started writing ext3
[22:58] <sena--> so you selected the harddrive created partiton
[22:59] <peteyp1> every time before my icy box crashed during the formatting process
[22:59] <peteyp1> but I'm not exactly sure they have a support irc channel on here either :P
[22:59] <sena--> then file system and then you pressed apply changes or smth like that
[22:59] <peteyp1> yep
[22:59] <peteyp1> just like that
[22:59] <Fizban140> this OS is so ridiculous, I am not sure what to do
[22:59] <peteyp1> but it's been whirring forever
[22:59] <Fizban140> Do I have to reinstall the OS for the sixth time?
[22:59] <peteyp1> without progress and I'm dreading cancelling it
[23:00] <Xcerca> Fizban140 , what are you trying to do ?
[23:00] <peteyp1> the drives aren't kinda cracking or making any strenious working hard sounds
[23:00] <Fizban140> I can't even see the drives or anything, no idea where these filesa re trying to install
[23:00] <peteyp1> so not sure what to expect
[23:00] <sena--> its too long how big is your drive
[23:00] <spasticteapot> Fizban140: UNR?
[23:00] <Fizban140> ubuntu netbook remix
[23:00] <peteyp1> 1.3 terrabytes
[23:00] <kj23> How can I access the desktop on another linux partition?????/
[23:00] <peteyp1> I bought two for raid 1 :D
[23:00] <sena--> is connected to your usb
[23:00] <peteyp1> yes
[23:01] <Fizban140> I am trying to get my browser working because it crashes after about 10 seconds after I installed restricted files becuase flash wouldn't work and linux doesn't have an install wizard so now I am trying to uninstall those files and then install updates to see if that works but my whatever drive it is installing is full
[23:01] <sena--> well i think something must be wrong
[23:01] <peteyp1> the model is a seagate barracuda 7200 rpm 11 1500 gbytes
[23:01] <Xcerca> in .sh scripts, if i need to use sudo is there a way to have my password in the script so that i don't have to type in in ?   somthing like sudo "password" cp...   ?
[23:01] <peteyp1> hmmm
[23:01] <dabukalam> kj23: places > computer > click on the hard disk which represents the other partition > home > "user" > Desktop
[23:01] <sena--> there are some "smart" drives sometimes that think they know when to asleep to
[23:01] <kj23> thx
[23:02] <peteyp1> apparently they lied about 1500 gbytes :P
[23:02] <sena--> save energy hope yours is not that case
[23:02] <peteyp1> hmm hope so
[23:02] <peteyp1> no way to force wake ?
[23:02] <Xcerca> Fizban140 ,  firefox ?
[23:02] <sena--> actually no
[23:02] <peteyp1> that..
[23:02] <barqs> howcome i always get NT_STATUS_FAILED when trying to print? What username and password do i use for the printer authentication?
[23:02] <peteyp1> sucks
[23:02] <peteyp1> :D
[23:02] <FloodBot1> peteyp1: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:02] <sena--> i have had drives that fall asleep during copy operation
[23:03] <sena--> it just fails
[23:03] <sena--> but you can do this
[23:03] <sena--> cancel the operation
[23:03] <ratapoil> why are some packages kept back and not upgraded?
[23:03] <Fizban140> yes firefox
[23:03] <sena--> shut the drive down unplug usb
[23:03] <peteyp1> return to reseller?
[23:04] <sena--> no no jsut try again the formatting
[23:04] <peteyp1> hmm
[23:04] <peteyp1> I've tried it 4 or 5 times in total
[23:04] <peteyp1> 3 or 4 times in the network enclosure
[23:04] <ejn85> jebblue the windows computer i am trying to get to is named "download". host name in cmd just says "download". download is only connected to power and nic, i remoted to it with another windows pc using remote desktop connection from the accesories menu and i have no other software to do that installed on either machine. on download i just enabled it in the mycomputer > properties menu.
[23:04] <peteyp1> 1 time on here
[23:04] <sena--> wow and every time like this?
[23:04] <Xcerca> Fizban140 , for me i just went to youtube and a box came up and said that you need to install flash plugin, i selected adobe and it installed fine
[23:04] <peteyp1> on the network enclosure it just bricked itself
[23:04] <peteyp1> couldn't connect through http
[23:04] <sena--> ok then this time use different usb slot on you computer
[23:04] <peteyp1> hmm ok
[23:05] <peteyp1> how long SHOULD it take ?
[23:05] <sena--> plus make sure no other usb devices are connected
[23:05] <sena--> just the drive
[23:05] <peteyp1> oh shit yeah
[23:05] <peteyp1> printer :D
[23:05] <sena--> and restart the drive
[23:05] <jebblue> ejn85 on Ubuntu in a terminal run "nslookup download"
[23:05] <sena--> usb plus power supply
[23:05] <Fizban140> fuck linux
[23:05] <barqs> Does anyone know what password and username I must use?
[23:05] <peteyp1> ok
[23:05] <Fizban140> I went to youtube and tried to install that same thing but it wouldnt install for some reason
[23:06] <peteyp1> so eject
[23:06] <peteyp1> turn off
[23:06] <peteyp1> turn on
[23:06] <sena--> yes
[23:06] <Fizban140> no file to open the file
[23:06] <peteyp1> reconnect
[23:06] <peteyp1> ok
[23:06] <FloodBot1> peteyp1: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:06] <sena--> yes
[23:06] <peteyp1> enter is punctuation, tho! :)
[23:06] <Xcerca> Fizban140 , you are useing ubuntu correct ?
[23:06] <Fizban140> yes
[23:06] <Fizban140> Ubuntu Netbook REmix
[23:07] <adi_> hi ppl. i have a stand alone ftp with gigabit lan and a laptop with gigabit lan. between them i have a switch gigabit. the question is: if i try to upload to ftp the transfer rate grows up to 30mb in one second, but when i try to download the transfer don't go over...7...8mb. why?? anyone has any idea about why?
[23:07] <peteyp1> ok drives starting up
[23:07] <sena--> peteyp1: its the bot u know
[23:07] <Fizban140> been trouble shooting this POS OS for four days now
[23:07] <peteyp1> yeah I know ;)
[23:07] <Xcerca> Fizban140 , well once you know how to use it is awesome
[23:07] <peteyp1> lots of scratching sounds
[23:07] <peteyp1> crrrrrrrrk
[23:07] <ejn85> jebblue ok, i have it.
[23:07] <Fizban140> I know how to use it, just nothing works
[23:07] <Fizban140> ever
[23:07] <sena--> ok then open gparted
[23:07] <funkyHat> Fizban140: open up synaptic package manager and find and install flashplugin-installer
[23:07] <Fizban140> problem after problem after problem for four days
[23:08] <Fizban140> I can't I have to reinstall my OS now
[23:08] <sammy_27> hey
[23:08] <Fizban140> no room on the disc
[23:08] <sena--> delete if there is something to delete
[23:08] <sena--> and do everything step by step
[23:08] <Fizban140> ubuntu auto installed with the bare minimum and left only 20 MB free
[23:08] <sammy_27> can sone one tell me where is the list of the users..i am new here
[23:08] <Xcerca> Fizban140 , maybe your an idiot
[23:08] <sena--> first create partition on the drive
[23:08] <funkyHat> Xcerca: that's not helpful
[23:08] <sena--> apply changes
[23:08] <Fizban140> never had a problem with windows, I build my own PCs too
[23:08] <ejn85> jebblue should i try the address instead of the name?
[23:08] <peteyp1> deleting the unknown partition
[23:09] <funkyHat> Fizban140: how big is your netbook's disc?
[23:09] <peteyp1> creating a new table
[23:09] <Fizban140> 160 GB
[23:09] <sena--> should be fsast maybe several minutes
[23:09] <jebblue> ejn85 the IP that should work
[23:09] <peteyp1> msdos for ext3 right ?
[23:09] <funkyHat> Fizban140: did you install ubuntu in a dual boot setup with windows?
[23:09] <funkyHat> peteyp1: msdos is fine, yes
[23:09] <peteyp1> fsast?
[23:09] <Fizban140> I did at first but it got all corrupted so I formatted everything and installed just ubuntu
[23:09] <sena--> no msdos, ext3
[23:09] <peteyp1> oh ok
[23:10] <ldez> Fizban140: Have you tried Eeebuntu?
[23:10] <Xcerca> Fizban140 , i always manualy set up the formating , the default just takes up the whole drive,  is that what you did ?
[23:10] <peteyp1> hopefully it'll be readable by snow leopard
[23:10] <funkyHat> sena--: peteyp1 asked about the partition table type
[23:10] <Fizban140> yes
[23:10] <julemore> hey how can uninstall and then install via insmod a module .ko?
[23:10] <Lenin_Cat> how do I drain my memmory cache
[23:10] <julemore> uninsmod module.ko?
[23:10] <julemore> how to uninstall from memory?
[23:10] <Xcerca> Fizban140 , dual booting ?
[23:10] <Fizban140> no
[23:11] <Turbolinux> Hello. I have a HDA Intel Sound Card problem on my HP Pavilion dv7-1040 notebook computer and I couldn't solve for a few days. The solving solutions are too complicated and I don't know what I must do. Can you help me my problem?
[23:11] <Fizban140> so I should get eeebuntu?
[23:11] <sena--> funkyHat: was msdos the ntfs
[23:11] <funkyHat> Fizban140: can you pastebin the output of the command df
[23:11] <adi_> hi ppl. i have a stand alone ftp with gigabit lan and a laptop with gigabit lan. between them i have a switch gigabit. the question is: if i try to upload to ftp the transfer rate grows up to 30mb in one second, but when i try to download the transfer don't go over...7...8mb. why?? anyone has any idea about why?
[23:11] <erUSUL> !intelhda | Turbolinux
[23:11] <ejn85> jebblue still nothing
[23:12] <Fizban140> I am not on my netbook, I am here from my pc
[23:12] <sena--> peteyp1: msdos would be ok if this is ntfs
[23:12] <funkyHat> sena--: msdos as a partition table type is what nearly everybody uses on the desktop
[23:12] <Fizban140> what did you want to see from that command?
[23:12] <funkyHat> sena--: this is not about the filesystem
[23:12] <ejn85> jebblue still says host:"whatever i type":5900 conection lost
[23:13] <adi_> thks x help
[23:13] <sena--> funkyHat: ext3 is the fs or
[23:13] <ejn85> jebblue i tryed server and address and the other 2 adresses it reported back from the nslookup
[23:13] <adi_> bye
[23:13] <funkyHat> Fizban140: the line that ends with /
[23:13] <peteyp1> well the network storage device it's in (which i'm formatting with ubuntu because it crashes i.e. cnnt take it capn!...) only accepts ext 2, 3 and fat32
[23:13] <Turbolinux> !intelhda
[23:13] <peteyp1> fat32 defo doesn't go well with os x
[23:13] <peteyp1> also I can't seem to create the partition table ?
[23:13] <jebblue> ejn85 try "rdesktop download:3389"
[23:13] <peteyp1> or it's not queued in the list of pending ops
[23:13] <younder> when I use sendEmail to send a email form the command line (server admin) it sais "Mail send successfully" but I never receive it. What is happening?
[23:14] <peteyp1> sena
[23:14] <sena--> peteyp1: yes i am here
[23:14] <ejn85> jebblue put that in terminal or host field in rdv?
[23:14] <sena--> just a sec
[23:14] <funkyHat> peteyp1: creating partition table is done immediately, I think
[23:14] <peteyp1> without console warnings?
[23:14] <peteyp1> or notification
[23:14] <Fizban140> I wasted my whole fucking weekend on this pos
[23:14] <felixsulla> If I want to get a cron going, and I dont want to run it as root, I have to create a cron.allow file in /etc/ ?
[23:14] <jebblue> ejn85 for now open a terminal window (a shell) from Acessories
[23:15] <funkyHat> peteyp1: it should have warned you before you did it
[23:15] <sena--> yes the partiton table is done automatically when you create your partition
[23:15] <jebblue> ejn85 and type it there
[23:15] <peteyp1> oh ok
[23:15] <peteyp1> anyhoo
[23:15] <peteyp1> starting :)
[23:15] <altf2o> this may be more of a Samba specific question. For each individual user i create a /shared folder w/ permissions 0700 and setup a [user_share] entry in Samba. In my tests so far that user is the only one who can connect to it, modify, del, add, etc... This is the desired behavior, but my question is, is that a fairly "sane" way to do it? Is it reliable from a security standpoint?
[23:15] <younder> felixsulla: use crontab -e
[23:15] <regressless> Jaunty Jack tries to load desktop, but just shows black screen and monitor flickers off and on. Any ideas?
[23:15] <mefiiik> does anybody know hot to connect nokia n95 to linux and download pictures, music etc?..
[23:15] <peteyp1> lol
[23:15] <funkyHat> !languages | Fizban140
[23:15] <peteyp1> it crashed
[23:15] <funkyHat> err
[23:15] <funkyHat> !language | Fizban140
[23:15] <Daps> I'm trying to share files between 2 Ubuntu machines... Samba doesn't work and NFS doesn't work for me.. anyone know what im doing wrong or how to get this to work ?
[23:15] <felixsulla> younder:  I ran crontab -e to run a python file every 5 min.
[23:15] <felixsulla> younder: But so far, no go.
[23:16] <sena--> peteyp1: what crashed
[23:16] <peteyp1> gpart
[23:16] <SineDeviance> hi, i want to run ubuntu server 9.04 and i want to set it up with a basic gui (like lxde) and have it autologin so i can admin it entirely through vnc. is this possible?
[23:16] <sena--> hm
[23:16] <sena--> try again
[23:16] <altf2o> Daps - have you followed the instructions in the Ubuntu Documentation? Specifically the server doco, has instructions on quickly getting Samba setup.
[23:16] <ejn85> jebblue in terminal it says autoselected keyboard map en-us
[23:16] <ejn85>                                            error: getaddrinfo: name or service not know
[23:17] <peteyp1> ok starting
[23:17] <regressless> Graffics seem to have stopped working on Ubuntu 9.04. Can anyone help?
[23:17] <sena--> peteyp1: so first create partition
[23:17] <felixsulla> Can anyone help with cron?
[23:17] <sena--> peteyp1: then format it with file system ext3 for example
[23:18] <peteyp1> yep
[23:18] <Daps> altf2o, yup, i've done it to the point that one machine now shows the machines in the network but i can't mount them and the other machine shows the network, but i can't see the other machines... strange inconsistency... This is for Windows shares though... there's nothing for NFS shares
[23:18] <bucky> Daps, https://help.ubuntu.com/9.04/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html
[23:18] <peteyp1> queued up making a primary partition
[23:18] <peteyp1> with ext 2
[23:18] <peteyp1> :)
[23:18] <jebblue> ejn85 ok change download to the IP address you get from "ping download"
[23:18] <jebblue> ejn85 or nslookup download
[23:18] <sena--> yes
[23:18] <sena--> apply
[23:19] <peteyp1> entounces
[23:19] <barqs> Hello, howcome I keep getting NT_STATUS_FAILEd when trying to print?" I'm using the wrong username and password, but what username and password do i use?
[23:19] <peteyp1> create partition table
[23:19] <ejn85> jebblue it says host unkown when i ping
[23:19] <sena--> i have to go in a few, need to sleep
[23:19] <peteyp1> and then partitons.. create new partition
[23:19] <felixsulla> How do you start cron ?
[23:19] <peteyp1> then apply
[23:19] <peteyp1> done that
[23:19] <peteyp1> waiting
[23:19] <peteyp1> ...
[23:19] <peteyp1> zzz
[23:19] <FloodBot1> peteyp1: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:19] <sena--> ok
[23:19] <Daps> bucky, I don't know if this makes sense, but.. I have a windows laptop that can see both ubuntu machines and access their files...
[23:19] <sena--> it will take a bit
[23:19] <sena--> but not hors
[23:19] <peteyp1> 30 mins ?
[23:19] <sena--> *hours
[23:20] <sena--> less
[23:20] <peteyp1> hmm ok
[23:20] <jebblue> ejn85 ok you need to determine the IP address of download, if you can get back into its local desktop run in a command prompt, "ping download" and see what it thinks its address is
[23:20] <Daps> bucky, however the linux machines can't do the same.... one see the network, the other see the computers.. neither can access any files
[23:20] <peteyp1> I cant hear much activity from the drive
[23:20] <joeb3_> felixsulla, /etc/init.d/cron start
[23:20] <sena--> should be ok
[23:20] <altf2o> Daps - so neither Linux computer can connect to the other? But Windows connects to both fine?
[23:20] <sena--> wait for a while
[23:21] <phix> hey
[23:21] <peteyp1> actually I cant hear anything.. near silent :). Yes.. Im impatient :P
[23:21] <felixsulla> joeb3: if it says [fail] does that mean I have it configured wrong in crontab -e?
[23:21] <Daps> altf2o, Yup... strange eh...
[23:21] <peteyp1> ok I'll be back in 30 mins
[23:21] <phix> felixsulla: what does syslog tell you?
[23:21] <peteyp1> guess you'll be gone by then sena
[23:21] <sena--> ok i go to sleep
[23:21] <felixsulla> phix:  How do I see the syslog?
[23:21] <peteyp1> thankies for your help :)
[23:21] <Chris64> is there a wine channel on this network?
[23:22] <sena--> np hope it will work this time
[23:22] <regressless> Help please? I've been running Ubuntu 9.04 with the array.org thing on my eeepc with no problems. I put it in standby and unplugged my external dvd drive and when I got home and took it out of standby, the screen went black and the monitor started flickering off and on. Tried rebooting and twice it showed the desktop for several seconds and it started doing the same thing again. Now all I see is it trying to load (splash screen works)
[23:22] <joeb3_> felixsulla, did your save with the -e give any errors?
[23:22] <peteyp1> me too.. don't want to have to send the drive back
[23:22] <phix> felixsulla: tail /var/log/syslog
[23:22] <peteyp1> although it's looking more that way!
[23:22] <felixsulla> joeb3: I saved out of crontab -e with no errors.
[23:22] <sena--> if not you can try with console with fdisk
[23:22] <phix> felixsulla: actually you will need root to see it, so chuck a sudo infront of that
[23:22] <altf2o> Daps - very. If you run this command on one of those boxes:  sudo pdbedit -L , does it list the user name you're trying to connect to the share with? Also does:  smbclient -L host\ip , list the share at all from on Ubuntu box to the other?
[23:22] <peteyp1> any guides on that
[23:22] <sena--> and mkfs
[23:22] <peteyp1> ?
[23:23] <sena--> it is very easy to use
[23:23] <peteyp1> google is your friend...
[23:23] <peteyp1> I guess
[23:23] <joeb3_> felixsulla, look in /var/log/syslog
[23:23] <felixsulla> Okay, i'm looking at syslog.
[23:23] <sena--> just type fsiks and it shows you the options you can read some additional guids from interent
[23:23] <sena--> yes it is
[23:23] <barqs> can someone help me?
[23:24] <Kimochi> Can someone please tell me how I can get started with Ubuntu? I have installed it, and it tells me to input a username and password. What do I do?
[23:24] <sena--> lol i misspell every word already
[23:24] <peteyp1> :D
[23:24] <altf2o> Kimochi: type in your user name and password.
[23:24] <peteyp1> then I wonder 30 mins later what fsiks is
[23:24] <sena--> good night or mornig whaever it is
[23:24] <peteyp1> 'google search'
[23:24] <peteyp1> lol
[23:24] <peteyp1> night
[23:24] <peteyp1> night
[23:24] <peteyp1> btw
[23:24] <Daps> altf2o, pdbedit brings back some strange stuff... but no it shows me the machine I am on and then "nobody:65534:nobody"
[23:25] <Kimochi> It says incorrect username or password... I don't remember setting it!
[23:25] <bobertdos> Kimochi: When you say you "installed" it, what did you use?
[23:25] <Here4TheGear> Kimochi it might be root root if it is your first time logging in
[23:25] <ejn85> jebblue i used ipconfig in cmd on download and it says the ip is *.103 why doesnt nslookup give me that info? it looks like entering the ip connects me but it only gives a black screen.
[23:25] <Daps> altf2o, the second one smbclient, says "Connection to host<IP_ADDRESS> failed (Error NT_STATUS_BAD_NETWORK_NAME)"
[23:25] <regressless> Kimochi: username is the name you gave, if you didn't set the password, just hit enter
[23:25] <Kimochi> Root Root didn't work either.
[23:25] <Flannel> Kimochi: How did you install Ubuntu?
[23:25] <regressless> Help please? I've been running Ubuntu 9.04 with the array.org thing on my eeepc with no problems. I put it in standby and unplugged my external dvd drive and when I got home and took it out of standby, the screen went black and the monitor started flickering off and on. Tried rebooting and twice it showed the desktop for several seconds and it started doing the same thing again. Now all I see is it trying to load (splash screen works)
[23:25] <Here4TheGear> I said root root not Root Root
[23:25] <Kimochi> When did I give a name?
[23:26] <altf2o> Ok so for me logging into my Ubuntu server when i run that pdbedit command it lists me similar to:  altf2o:1001:,,,  , do you see anything similar?
[23:26] <jebblue> ejn85 the connection stuff is a networking issue you would need to address with your admin
[23:26] <regressless> Kimochi: username has no caps
[23:26] <jebblue> ejn85 try moving the mouse and see if the screen activates
[23:26] <Flannel> Kimochi: most installation methods ask you during the install.  How did you install?
[23:26] <Kimochi> I think I emulated it on DaemonTools?
[23:27] <rwlove_> Hello... My system crashed on video playback and now the nvidia driver only shows colored lines on the screen when gdm starts... any pointers on debugging would be appreciated.
[23:27] <altf2o> Daps - is that host currently up and online? *.*.1.105 responds to ping and allows you to login to it? And running: smbclient -L <IP_ADDRESS> , shows Samba is running and your shares?
[23:27] <felixsulla> joeb3: Does a cron error message show in syslog ?
[23:27] <Kimochi> Does the username have a space?
[23:27] <Kimochi> Can it have spaces?*
[23:27] <Flannel> Kimochi: You think?  If you're doing this via virtualization, the image you download might aleady have a username and password set up, you'll have to find it from whereever you downloaded it.
[23:27] <joeb3_> felixsulla, yes
[23:27] <Flannel> Kimochi: No
[23:28] <Kimochi> Hmm...
[23:28] <Daps> altf2o, yup.. its up and shows the shared folder
[23:28] <ejn85> jebblue i am my admin, this is all at my house. i tried moving the mouse and nothing happens, the "send ctrl-alt-del button on the viewer wont light. it just came back at me and said that it was closed.
[23:28] <joeb3_> felixsulla, is cron running?  ps -ef | grep cron
[23:28] <Kimochi> The password can have spaces and caps, right?
[23:28] <altf2o> ok cool. And does the pdbedit show the user name you're trying to connect with?
[23:28] <josh_> ejn85, have you set up ssh on the "server"?
[23:28] <felixsulla> joeb3: It appears so, its on the first line of that command you just gave me.
[23:29] <felixsulla> joeb3_:  Does the syslog show some kind of error?
[23:29] <regressless> Kimochi: I don't know about spaces, but caps, yes
[23:29] <ejn85> josh_ what is ssh?
[23:29] <aleron6> does anybodys music sound different from the upgfrade to jaunty
[23:29] <jebblue> ejn85 dunno then, on the TCP issue, you would need to either run a DNS server or add "download" w/o quotes to your /etc/hosts file I think
[23:29] <Here4TheGear> Kimochi: no spaces in a password, it's a password, but yes, caps if you want
[23:29] <shumpfrey> hi
[23:29] <joeb3_> felixsulla, what entry did you add with the -e?  What time?
[23:29] <regressless> anyone want to tackle my problem?
[23:29] <felixsulla> joeb3_: I (think) I made it run every five minutes, I'm trying to call a python script.
[23:29] <regressless> I'll post it again:
[23:29] <regressless> Help please? I've been running Ubuntu 9.04 with the array.org thing on my eeepc with no problems. I put it in standby and unplugged my external dvd drive and when I got home and took it out of standby, the screen went black and the monitor started flickering off and on. Tried rebooting and twice it showed the desktop for several seconds and it started doing the same thing again. Now all I see is it trying to load (splash screen works)
[23:30] <mefiiik> doues anybody know how to share pictures, music etc on linux with nokia n95?...
[23:30] <Turbolinux> Hello again. I just controlled my soundcard and it's Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) HD Audio Controller (rev 03). The links don't give me the solution about my soundcard. What can I do now?
[23:30] <jebblue> ejn85 try installing Terminal Server Client from Synaptic or Add/Remove programs, maybe it will give a better set of rdesktop options that would enable a successful connection
[23:30] <shumpfrey> I just installed mint, I already have ubuntu installed. Now I have a 11.12GB swap and a 172.54MB swap. Is there any way I can delete one and have the two distros use the same swap?
[23:30] <joeb3_> felixsulla, open another window.  tail -f /var/log/syslog.  wait for for it to run.  check for errors.
[23:30] <ejn85> jebblue i have terminal sever client installed. hold on and ill try that
[23:31] <felixsulla> joeb3_: That last command you gave, does that just keep syslog open and running?
[23:31] <Flannel> shumpfrey: Yeah
[23:31] <aleron6> does anybody know how i can fix this sound issue im having
[23:31] <joeb3_> felixsulla, yes
[23:31] <Um_cara_qualquer> excuse me... where can i download the following archives: "Qt 4.2;" "FreePascal 1.9.4;" "SDL 1.2.5;" "SDL_net 1.2.5;" "SDL_mixer 1.2;" "SDL_image 1.2;" "SDL_ttf 2.0;" "CMake 2.4.4 ."
[23:31] <felixsulla> joeb3_: That is pretty cool :)
[23:31] <bobertdos> Turbolinux: What was the original problem? Just no sound?
[23:31] <RHorse> shumpfrey sure you prolly don't even need a swap, but yes, you can
[23:32] <Flannel> shumpfrey: Just know that your swap is where the hibernate image goes, so if you hibernate and then boot the other one, your hibernation will die.
[23:32] <joeb3_> felixsulla, ctrl-c to close it.
[23:32] <Turbolinux> My audio Audio device is Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) HD Audio Controller (rev 03). The links don't give me the solution about my soundcard. What can I do now?
[23:32] <felixsulla> * Starting periodic command scheduler crond                             [fail]
[23:32] <Turbolinux> Yes, no sound.
[23:32] <felixsulla> That message .. does that mean cron is not allowed, then, or that the job itself is configured wrong?
[23:32] <altf2o> Daps - if it doesn't you can try and add that user to Sambas PW db, sudo smbpasswd -a <user> , (i have libpam-smbpass installed which syncs Samba w/ local PWs). Also try making the share complately unrestricted: guest ok = yes, even setting the shared folder permissions to 0777 and see if it helps.
[23:32] <bobertdos> !sound | Turbolinux
[23:32] <seidos> Turbolinux: have you tried modifying your /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf file?
[23:33] <joeb3_> felixsulla, leave the tail window open.  in another run sudo /etc/init.d/cron restart
[23:33] <ratapoil> I want to install VLC, but I'm not sure I want to have all those QT libraries. Would they slow down my gnome?
[23:33] <felixsulla> joeb3_: * Starting periodic command scheduler crond                             [fail]
[23:33] <altf2o> ratapoil: no. If your system slows down it's because the specs are low, QT being installed shouldn't do that.
[23:33] <Turbolinux> No, I haven't configured my ALSA file.
[23:34] <shumpfrey> How do I change the swap uuid or whatever it is?
[23:34] <Daps> altf2o, so create mask 0777 instead of 0755 ??
[23:34] <scott9876> hey, honesty unbiased opinion...is the open office excel up to MSFT
[23:34] <altf2o> i've had Ubuntu and Kubuntu installed so i can switch between both for some time, no slowdown in either.
[23:34] <ejn85> jebblue tah dah!!! its a miracle!! i used the ip address i acquired from the ipconfig in windows instead of the computer name and the credentials for the pc and it worked right away!! i dont mean to be a pain but is it difficult to setup remote desktop connection from windows to linux? (if you have quick answer that is fine, i can save that question for a later date)
[23:34] <felixsulla> scott9876: IMO? Its not as good, but its pretty good.
[23:34] <mysecondwind> hey everybody i had a question about ubuntu. i currently am not a user of it and never used linux in my life. i am experienced with computers so i doubt i would screw anything up. now i want to know. i got a pretty reliable computer (1 gig of ram, 160 gigs of space, etc etc) and am currently on a windows vista computer, now i was thinking of double booting somehow and have it run windows vista and ubuntu. if not my computer does have
[23:34] <joeb3_> felixsulla, ok, then remove what you added with -e and try again to restart cron
[23:34] <seidos> Turbolinux: there is a howto on snd_hda_intel
[23:34] <scott9876> I don't want to install wine but I kinda am use to msft office
[23:34] <scott9876> shall I resist?
[23:35] <jebblue> ejn85 nice :) well just run a VNC server on Linux and a VNC client in Windows and that should do it
[23:35] <altf2o> Daps - i'd leave the mask for now, what you're looking at is the actual permissions for your shared folder. If for instance you have it in: /home/Daps/shared , and permissions listed with: ls -lah shared , are equiv. to 0755 , try setting that folder to 0777 and see if it helps.
[23:35] <mysecondwind> jebblue are you talking to me?
[23:35] <felixsulla> joeb3_: /etc/init.d/cron restart gave [OK]
[23:35] <kd8JHC> scott9876 - install VirutalBox and install XP on a virtual machine
[23:35] <Irving> anyone play open arena
[23:35] <younder> scott9876: what's wrong with openOffice?
[23:35] <felixsulla> joeb3_:  So I guess I wait 5 min. and see if my cron works!
[23:35] <jebblue> mysecondwind: no was talking to ejn85
[23:35] <altf2o> i had a big problem with local file permissions (which supersede Sambas write\modify permissions) so i created a group to use for 'shared folders.'
[23:35] <joeb3_> felixsulla, ok, so what did you add?
[23:35] <Here4TheGear> I am getting ready to reimage a vps which has ubuntu on it. Can someone tell me if I am either missing something or being redundant in this line to install the items I will need for a php project? thanks... aptitude install libapache2-mod-php5 php5-cli php5-curl php5-mysql mysql-server mysql-client
[23:36] <scott9876> don't know how good is openoffice
[23:36] <bobertdos> scott9876: I've always felt that openoffice maintains a level equivalent to Office XP, and it's always been enough for my purposes.
[23:36] <scott9876> and I need to send docs in *.doc or .xls files
[23:36] <ejn85> jebblue thank you again! any recommendations on which vnc to go with?
[23:36] <Flannel> !lamp | Here4TheGear
[23:36] <Flannel> Here4TheGear: check out that wiki page, it'll get you all set up
[23:36] <younder> scott9876: adequate for my needs. Like a old version of office
[23:36] <felixsulla> joeb3_: I just did restart instead of start. I guess it was giving [fail] since it was already running?
[23:37] <bobertdos> scott9876: and OpenOffice can do that perfectly fine.
[23:37] <joeb3_> felixsulla, ok
[23:37] <scott9876> bobertdos: can I send docs in the msft format without the receiver knowing anything is wrong
[23:37]  * altf2o has seen OpenOffice.org come a /long/ way in the past several years. IMO it's an outstanding package i recommend to everyone.
[23:37] <RHorse> felixsulla have you posted your crontab?
[23:37] <felixsulla> RHorse: No, I can if you want to see it.
[23:37] <Daps> altf2o, how do i go about changing that to 0777 ?
[23:37] <scott9876> it's work related files, so I'm happy to go with openoffice but I don't want to get fired
[23:37] <felixsulla> Does cron start automatically when Ubuntu boots up?
[23:37] <shumpfrey> what does swapon/swapoff do in gparted?
[23:37] <RHorse> sure, felixsulla
[23:37] <joeb3_> felixsulla, it should.
[23:37] <jebblue> ejn85 I like a secure connection and I'm too cheap to buy  the commercial grade VNC so I use ssh to tunnel into my target host then run vncserver
[23:38] <felixsulla> joeb3_: by default, right?
[23:38] <joeb3_> felixsulla, right.
[23:38] <erUSUL> shumpfrey: the same as in the command line activate/deactivate the swap space
[23:38] <aleron6> can about here help with with my sound issue
[23:38] <jebblue> ejn85 you can install a graphical tool GSTM to help with establishing secure tunnels to Linux boxes
[23:38] <bobertdos> scott9876: It will handle the xls and doc formats. The only thing that's a little tricker are the new 2007 formats, docx and the like
[23:38] <altf2o> Daps - the Linux 'chmod' command: chmod 0777 /path/to/shared , just remember to switch it back if it doesn't work: chmod 0755 /path/to/shared  . Also another note the Ubuntu docs put the ownership of the folder as: nobody:nogroup , that screwed me up big time when it came to shared folders among several PCs and or users.
[23:39] <jmarsden> felixsulla: ps a |grep cron   should show you that cron is running
[23:39] <scott9876> ok, I'll stay msft free than
[23:39] <scott9876> hurray
[23:39] <mysecondwind> hey everybody i had a question about ubuntu. i currently am not a user of it and never used linux in my life. i am experienced with computers so i doubt i would screw anything up. now i want to know. i got a pretty reliable computer (1 gig of ram, 160 gigs of space, etc etc) and am currently on a windows vista computer, now i was thinking of double booting somehow and have it run windows vista and ubuntu. if not my computer does have
[23:40] <felixsulla> mysecondwind: Dual partition, or use Virtualbox
[23:40] <bobertdos> scott9876: To be fair, formatting may sometimes be a bit off, but that happens with MS Office as it is, so, yeah........
[23:40] <jebblue> ejn85: or the easy way if you are not paranoid like me is to enable remote desktop using Vino which should be installed with Gnome if you are using default Ubuntu - check Preferences | Remote Desktop
[23:40] <Here4TheGear> Flannel: thanks a bunch
[23:40] <erUSUL> mysecondwind: your post is too large and is beating the 400 char max. rephrase your question
[23:41] <mysecondwind> i have vista and i want to run ubuntu on the same harddrive as a alt operating system. i want vista to stay as the default
[23:42] <n8tuser> mysecondwind-> you may use windows7 to resize your partition and leave a new partition just for linux and swap..so you can install tothe new partition
[23:42] <felixsulla> mysecondwind: Dual partition, read up on configuring grub to switch back to Vista as the primary OS loaded. Use Gparted to set your partitions.
[23:43] <shumpfrey> yeay i messed up my Mint partion
[23:43] <koshari> ok whats the consensus with regard to ubuntu 64 these days, is there full support reagrding codecs , flash ect?
[23:43] <ejn85> jebblue i live in rural nebraska; i dont have much concern with security beyond basic virus and spyware. :) thank you again for all of your help. if you have and windows questions id love to help you out. :))
[23:43] <Daps> altf2o, still nothing... Why can't I see the other ubuntu box here, but on the other box I can see this one..?? (I can see this one but can;t open/mount it.)
[23:43] <cafuego> koshari: Yes, there has been for ages.
[23:43] <shumpfrey> The superblock could not be read or does not describe a correct ext2
[23:43] <shumpfrey> filesystem.
[23:43] <koshari> cafuego any gotchas?
[23:43] <jebblue> ejn85: welcome :)
[23:43] <McPeter> (sorry just a test for boot anti-away-nick ᒃ‿ᒄ )
[23:44] <McPeter> Flannel,
[23:44] <Here4TheGear> gksu "gedit /etc/apache2/conf.d/fqdn" so, I should actually edit /etc/hostname and /etc/hosts first and allow apache to draw it's information from there correct?
[23:44] <Flannel> McPeter: No worries
[23:44] <cafuego> koshari: none that I've seen in the past year or so. before that the java plugin was iffy.
[23:44] <altf2o> Daps - ok so on this box since you can't see the other, no firewall settings on either?
[23:44] <shumpfrey>  mount /dev/sda6 /media/disk \ /dev/sda6 looks like swapspace - not mounted
[23:44] <koshari> cafuego so ethernet , wifi drivers are all go?
[23:44] <cafuego> koshari: yup
[23:45] <Daps> altf2o, i've tried it withthe firewall and without.. even accepted input, forward and output values on iptables
[23:45] <Pirate_Hunter> jsut compiled and installed rubyripper but have no clue how to open it, typing rubyripper doesn't open it, anyone actually knows the correct syntax for it?
[23:45] <Irving> anyone play open arena, if so would you be able to help me with video card setup
[23:45] <apollo1> how do I uninstall all packages that xubuntu pulled in... I tried it and decided against it.
[23:46] <iwoodstock> are ubuntu packaging virtio drivers for windows for kvm ?
[23:46] <koshari> apollo1 check the install log
[23:46] <devnull> so i would like to use composite again but in 9.04 ati and radeon drivers are running horrible ... any advice ...worked fine in 8.10 sucks in 9.04
[23:46] <koshari> apollo1 using synaptic?
[23:46] <Turbolinux> I checked the links seidos but I couldn't find the how-to solution. Can you help me?
[23:46] <apollo1> koshari: yes synaptic
[23:46] <pitput> Should I install a clean copy or update to 9.10 when it comes out?
[23:47] <altf2o> Daps - hmm... What about in the: /var/log/samba/ try:  sudo ls /var/log/samba , should see something similar to:  log.ip.from.this.host , where the IP is from the host who cannot even see the other one. (This would be on the OTHER server)
[23:47] <koshari> apollo1 synaptic > file >history>
[23:48] <apollo1> koshari: manually uninstall all?
[23:48] <MoeGreen> hello everyone.  Does anybody have an idea why my dual monitor setup will not keep the settings after i logout or reboot?  Both monitors work fine the way i want but everytime i reboot i have to enable my 2nd monitor again.
[23:48] <peteyp1> how do I sudo on a live cd ?
[23:48] <peteyp1> noob question i kno
[23:49] <Flannel> peteyp1: the same way you would on a real install
[23:49] <peteyp1> sudo -l ?
[23:49] <Flannel> peteyp1: no, sudo [command]
[23:50] <koshari> apollo1 basically, you could use some cli magic to make a list for apt to do it automatically.
[23:50] <cafuego> aptitude will generally automagically remove stuff without installed rdepends anyway.
[23:51] <cafuego> There are also 'debfoster' and 'deborphan' for a more manual approach.
[23:51] <Flannel> apollo1, koshari: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/puregnome
[23:51] <peteyp1> hmm
[23:51] <peteyp1> trying to fdisk
[23:51] <Turbolinux> Does anyone use HP Pavilion dv7-1040 notebook computer?
[23:51] <rlee> Question... I'm chrooting a service, and I'm getting the error: "Cannot find service ftp: Bad file descriptor". Am I missing something?
[23:51] <Flannel> peteyp1: `sudo fdisk -l`
[23:51] <peteyp1> ahhh
[23:51] <peteyp1> genius
[23:52] <koshari> Flannel unfortinately that will remove any other additional packages
[23:52] <Flannel> koshari: Only if they're also in xubuntu (and not ubuntu)
[23:52] <josh_> ejn85, that's where you are mistaken. You're on the internet, you may as well be next door.
[23:52] <koshari> Flannel true
[23:54] <koshari> Flannel i guess abiword and thunderbird are aps people may have indipendent of the xfce mata
[23:54] <felixsulla> After you do "sudo update-alternatives --config editor" do you have to reboot to see effect?
[23:54] <jorik> no, but you do need to restart the terminal
[23:55] <Flannel> koshari: well, you can always take that line, and then remove from it the things you want (probably easier than the alternatives)
[23:55] <Flannel> koshari: xchat too, for that matter
[23:55] <help_find> I want to find a file containing a certain text, currently I am using   #  grep -r "pattern"  # is that enough to find the file containing the text pattern ?
[23:55] <help_find> I want tto make this search directory independent
[23:55] <ldez> I would like to take this opportunity to thank everyone who is tirelessly helping people find solutions to problems in this IRC. It is people like you who make the Ubuntu community so wonderful. Keep up the awesomeness all you super nice people out there!
[23:55] <Turbolinux> bobertdos can you help me to configure my sound card?
[23:56] <Slart> help_find: looks like it should work alright
[23:56] <Pirate_Hunter> anyone knows how to call the gui for ruby ripper?
[23:56] <help_find> Slart: its taking awful lot of time
[23:56] <Slart> help_find: you might want to add -i for case independent search.. if that's something you're looking for
[23:57] <RHorse> help_find you need to specify the files you want to look at
[23:57] <help_find> RHorse: like *.docx ?
[23:57] <Slart> help_find: well.. searching through a lot of data will take time.. also some patterns take more processing than others.. are you searching your entire file system?
[23:58] <help_find> how do I add file type to that search RHorse
[23:58] <RHorse> help_find grep -r PATTERN *.docx
[23:58] <Slart> help_find: or wait.. you didn't specify a file.. it's just sitting there, right?
[23:58] <callum_> Hi I am just wondering is there a program for editing movies on ubuntu for youtube like movie maker on windows?
[23:58] <callum_> Is there anything like that around please?
[23:58] <help_find> *.docx shows grep: *.doc: No such file or directory
[23:58] <cathode_ray> hi, guys... i'm looking for a good material about the file system...what do i have to put in the /etc/init.d and stuffs like that...anyone could help me?
[23:59] <Slart> help_find: it's waiting for you to write stuff for it to search through then.. =)  make it "grep -i 'pattern' *" to make it search through the files and folders in the current directory
[23:59] <help_find> Slart: no I didnt specify it, I am hoping I saved it in a dox file
[23:59] <elninja__> Just installed an USB printer for the family. I'm impressed by how little effort that required with CUPS under Ubuntu 8.04... Basically just checked the box to share published printers, and now it's automagically listed when printing from any machine on the network without having to do anything on any of them. Amazing.


[11:55] <eoli3n_> Hi who's in charge of subiquity ?
[11:55] <eoli3n_> https://bugs.launchpad.net/subiquity/+bug/1905296
[11:55] <eoli3n_> i'm trying to workaround this
[12:22] <eoli3n_> TJ- o/
[12:28] <eoli3n_> i am looking for what is "cmd-install/stage-curthooks/001-configure-apt/cmd-apt-config" doing
[12:28] <eoli3n_> where is that source code ?
[12:58] <seb128> eoli3n_, hey, you want mwhudson but he's in .nz so probably past his eod now
[12:58] <eoli3n_> TJ- found the source: https://git.launchpad.net/subiquity/tree/bin/subiquity-configure-apt
[12:59] <eoli3n_> what is eod ?
[13:00] <eoli3n_> end of day
[13:00] <eoli3n_> :)
[13:02] <seb128> yes
[13:04] <TJ-> this is a strange one - seb128  can you think of a circumstance where the (subiquity) installer, when calling "apt-get update" and having sources.list = "deb file:///cdrom ..." would manage to read dists/focal/Release{,.gpg} but then immediately get "file not found" for "dists/focal/main/binary-amd64/Packages.gz"
[13:09] <seb128> TJ-, no idea sorry, googling suggests it's not new than cdrom entries in sources.list create problems...
[13:09] <seb128> is subiquity enabling that source?
[13:22] <eoli3n_> seb128 yes it does
[13:22] <eoli3n_> check the last lines in previous link
[13:22] <eoli3n_> https://git.launchpad.net/subiquity/tree/bin/subiquity-configure-apt#n64
[13:23] <eoli3n_> i can't even autocomment this from cloud-config
[13:23] <seb128> eoli3n_, well, you have the bug opened and mwhudson got pinged so hopefully he will get back to you later
[13:23] <eoli3n_> ok
[13:23] <eoli3n_> thanks santa_
[13:23] <eoli3n_> oups
[13:23] <eoli3n_> seb128
[13:23] <seb128> unless juliank might be able to help you on why apt is unhappy there
[13:24] <eoli3n_> it would be great
[13:24] <eoli3n_> i added a lots of details if the issue, every tests we did with TJ-
[13:24] <eoli3n_> -> https://bugs.launchpad.net/subiquity/+bug/1905296
[13:27] <eoli3n_> i need to go for the moment, i come back in 3 or 4 hours
[13:28] <juliank> seb128: eoli3n_ Can only say that it looks like the file doesn't exist
[13:29] <eoli3n_> yep but Package.gz does
[13:29] <eoli3n_> and it is accessed
[13:29] <eoli3n_> so it should not fallback on Package, which does not exist
[15:39] <doko> vorlon: you synced/merged mime-support 3.66/3.66ubuntu1 (the latter removed?). needs a MIR, or some Ubuntu delta
[17:00] <Unit193> Could I convince an AA to remove xfce4-notes-plugin for now to let a bunch of things migrate?
[18:57] <seb128> Unit193, removing xfce4-notes-plugin wouldn't be enough it seems, also why does it need to be removed rather than fixed?
[19:04] <seb128> Unit193, removed following Debian
[19:04] <Unit193> Last I saw that's what was holding libxfce4ui back, which is holding most other stuff back.  By "fix", you mean port to GTK3? :)  There's efforts to do so upstream, but it's a bit of vala mess, if we fully enabled vaapi in the core libs it'd build, but we don't plan to do that.  It's supposed to work with just introspection, but it doesn't even build yet with that.  There's also visual quirks when
[19:04] <Unit193> it does build (from what I've heard)
[19:04] <Unit193> seb128: Thanks!
[19:05] <seb128> Unit193, xfce4-panel makes orage, workrave, xfce4-equake-plugin uninstallable, I'm checking those now
[19:06] <Unit193> Orage is pretty dead, not sure if it's been officially canned upstream yet (moved to archive), workrave and equake seem a bit dorment, IIRC equake last had a release in '18 or so?
[19:07] <Unit193> Heh, Debian 950993.
[19:09] <Unit193> Workrave is very much alive, just wasn't maintained in Debain for a while.  Ok.
[19:10] <seb128> I wonder why e.g orage doesn't have a rc bug filed in Debian
[19:10] <seb128> it Build-Depends on xfce4-panel-dev which went away
[19:12] <Unit193> Only in 4.15, which dropped gtk2.
[19:12] <Unit193> !info xfce4-panel-dev unstable
[19:13] <Unit193> ...That's old data.
[19:14] <seb128> I've removed orage and xfce4-equake-plugin
[19:14] <xnox> i've been trying to build notes, but alas needs nwer git snapshowt of libxfcui stuff that i didn't look into yet.
[19:14] <xnox> but it would be nice to keep notes-plugin as it is otherwise ported to gtk3
[19:15] <seb128> it has the cycle to come back
[19:16] <Unit193> xnox: It's not a newer libxfce4ui it needs, it's vaapi to work right.  The gir stuff is a bit in the wrong namespace, so it works with vaapi only.  I debugged this and talked to upstream.
[19:17] <seb128> workrave could be easily built without xfce if someone wants to give it a try
[19:18] <Unit193> It looks like it works with gtk3 too, I'll give that a try first later today.
[19:18] <seb128> workrave?
[19:18] <Unit193> Yes, sorry.  I'll poke at workrave later today.
[19:19] <seb128> thanks
[19:32] <Unit193> xnox: Well, to rephrase: It doesn't need anything newer than *proposed*.  And yes unfortunate to remove it, but we really need to get people testing 4.15 more.  I can pass along what I have though.
[19:46] <vorlon> doko: mime-support has changed into a metapackage and the contents have moved elsewhere; it's a no-op MIR, I'll subscribe & promote them
[19:51] <xnox> Unit193:  oh, so things got updated in proposed. then maybe my staged package locally will now build, and i cna just upload it?


[02:52] <Lope> I'm trying to compile the trusty kernel. Using this guide: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/BuildYourOwnKernel I'm at the part where I run `fakeroot debian/rules editconfigs` and I've got 43 pass and 2 fail. "check-config: FAIL: (flavour powerpc-smp" and "check-config: FAIL: (flavour powerpc-smp powerpc-e500" ... how can I exclude these powerPC architectures?
[02:52] <Lope> I just want to compile amd64
[06:17] <Lope> nvm, compiled without errors.


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[03:39] <mmikowski> RikMills: Right off the bat, there is no OEM mode. That's a serious bummer. Other stuff does look more modern.
[03:39] <mmikowski> But if ain't broke
[03:41] <mmikowski> Nice slideshow.
[03:45] <mmikowski> https://ubuntu.com/blog/how-we-designed-the-new-ubuntu-desktop-installer
[04:41] <Eickmeyer> mmikowski: OEM mode is coming, scheduled for 24.04 afaik. (Basically, the desktop team gave themselves a deadline when they made the new installer default for 23.04)
[07:05] <mmikowski> Hi Erich, thanks. I was going to ask that very question!
[11:13] <RikMills> mmikowski: Eickmeyer yeah, I also read somewhere oem was 'in the works'
[12:19] <BluesKaj> Hi all
[20:21] <mmikowski> RikMills, Eickmeyer: Thanks. I loaded the VMs last night, but need to redo Ubuntu for the system diffs. So we'll know what major differences we have. I could also swap out Ubiquity with new flutter installer to see what kind of train wreck we get there :P
[20:21] <mmikowski> :)
[20:21] <mmikowski> The Budge port should be instructive
[20:22] <mmikowski> I've got notes, and will soon add a tracking ticket.