[00:00] <dr_willis> the stick is probably mounted where root has rights. not users
[00:00] <user___> How do I run gksu nautilus
[00:00] <nicekiwi> Gumby, yeah with the new sshd_config file it runs fine
[00:00] <Gumby> nicekiwi: get the ssh server working first, then worry about locking it dow
[00:00] <Gumby> n
[00:00] <Physicist> dr_willis: Yes! You are.
[00:00] <whjms> user___: alt+f2, then type it in. or you type that into your terminal
[00:00] <dr_willis> type it in a terminal user___
[00:01] <Gumby> nicekiwi: check /var/log/syslog for errors after replacing the edited sshd_config and restarting ssh
[00:01] <dr_willis> Physicist:  great. do i get paid?
[00:01] <user___> That gave me full access.
[00:02] <dr_willis> user___:  close that nautilus window when done... it can be dangerous....
[00:02] <ftruzzi> anyone knows how to set up VNC so that the unity starts? the default xstartup script only displays a grey screen, nothing inside it
[00:03] <cobra-the-joker> Hey guys ... on a 64 bit system ... is it still recommeded to install the 32bit ubunutu ?
[00:03] <jrib> cobra-the-joker: I would recommend 64bit ubuntu on a 64bit system
[00:03] <Gumby> cobra-the-joker: how much ram do you have?
[00:03] <dr_willis> i reccimend 64 but
[00:03] <dr_willis> bit
[00:04] <Gumby> if you're low on ram install 32bit.  if you have lots, use 64bit
[00:04] <cobra-the-joker> Gumby: 2GB
[00:04] <bel3atar> no PAE in ubuntu?
[00:05] <dr_willis> ftruzzi: best to use a light desktop with vnc.  unity will have issues and be slow
[00:05] <dr_willis> bel3atar: pae is default in 12.10+
[00:05] <ftruzzi> dr_willis: the problem is that NOTHING is displayed
[00:05] <dr_willis> ftruzzi: which vnc sever?
[00:06] <nicekiwi> Gumby, there are some messages there, but non relating to SSH
[00:06] <Gumby> nicekiwi: after re-starting ssh with the custom config?
[00:06] <genoobie> okay, i've got 12.04 lubuntu running, having issues with flash / chromium but that's not unique
[00:06] <bel3atar> I wan't to assist a friend maybe via VNC, but she's firewalled. Any easy trick to solve this?
[00:06] <ftruzzi> dr_willis: vncserver4 idk if it has a something under it
[00:06] <nicekiwi> Gumby, with the old one, ssh wont start
[00:07] <genoobie> however, someone suggested that the video driver might be part of the problem
[00:07] <nicekiwi> with the new installed one, it runs file
[00:07] <dr_willis> ftruzzi: you edited the. vnc/xstartup to run what you want?
[00:07] <Gumby> nicekiwi: exactly.  check the logs to see why :)
[00:07] <pvl1> quick q, anyone know of a better pdf read than xpdf
[00:07] <ftruzzi> dr_willis: the problem is the xstartup config, there is no working setup on the internet, I tryed from classic gnome to unity , nothing works
[00:07] <dr_willis>     .vnc/xstartup
[00:08] <Gumby> nicekiwi: or, stop ssh (service ssh stop) then put your custom config in, and start ssh by doing /usr/bin/sshd   hopefully that will show something on the screen as to why it wont start
[00:08] <nicekiwi> Gumby, yeah I did. but theres nothing relating to ssh there asfar as i can see
[00:08] <nicekiwi> k
[00:08] <dr_willis> ftruzzi:  just have it run xterm &    and a minimal window manager as a test
[00:08] <genoobie> bbl
[00:08] <genoobie> going to try puppylinux
[00:08] <dr_willis> eww
[00:08] <dr_willis> ;-)
[00:08] <genoobie> well, can't get *ntu to work
[00:09] <bel3atar> genoobie: what cpu?
[00:09] <genoobie> at least not well and puppy linux has a version that can use untu packages
[00:09] <genoobie> PIII 800
[00:09] <nicekiwi> Gumby, hmm maybe they were related.. ssh: Could not resolve hostname restart: Name or service not known
[00:09] <dr_willis> theres a puppy for legacy hardware..
[00:10] <genoobie> dr_willis, you mean wary?
[00:10] <dr_willis> its not the ubuntu varant
[00:10] <ftruzzi> dr_willis: it opens a xterm, as expected but launch everything from xstartup or from xterm is pain in the ass
[00:11] <dr_willis> ftruzzi:  now have it just run the term.. exec xterm       with no wm.   then try the other desktops
[00:11] <Gumby> nicekiwi: that isnt always a fatal error.
[00:11] <dr_willis> start them from the xterm.. looking for error messages
[00:12] <ftruzzi> dr_willis: i siad the xterm is working, but i want a wm
[00:12] <nicekiwi> Gumby, true..
[00:12] <Gumby> nicekiwi: I suggest replacing the unmodified config and then begin working on fixing the modified one.  Something you have changed in it is not corrrect
[00:12] <dr_willis> so launch one..
[00:13] <nicekiwi> Gumby, yeah :/ but what
[00:14] <Gumby> lol... buffering
[00:15] <itatitat> guys, Im having a problem
[00:15] <bel3atar> itatitat: format that pc and it's gonna be alright
[00:15] <itatitat> I need to see a file, in a folder .ssh, hidden, but from the user jenkins, I cannot see with my normal user, is in local
[00:15] <nicekiwi> Gumby, weirdly it seems to be working now with the modified config
[00:15] <itatitat> XD
[00:15] <Gumby> nicekiwi: hrm
[00:15] <Gumby> did you restart ssh?
[00:16] <nicekiwi> Gumby, yesh
[00:16] <itatitat> nono, I need to see a config file
[00:16] <bel3atar> itatitat: you don't have root access?
[00:16] <nicekiwi> Gumby, only this is when I login with the non-root user i get this "-sh: 28: [[: not found" and bash dosnt run properly
[00:16] <dr_willis> itatitat:  can you see it from the terminal?
[00:16] <itatitat> no!, that the strange, I made sudo cd blablabla , and the output was: "cd is not a command"
[00:16] <nicekiwi> (after i login)
[00:16] <nearst> dr_willis, ur using ati ?
[00:16] <itatitat> im using terminal, I see it
[00:16] <dr_willis> sudo cd      is pointless
[00:17] <bel3atar> itatitat: copy it somewhere where you can see it
[00:17] <itatitat> yes..............then how can I see that file?
[00:17] <itatitat> jummmmmmmmm.................but is there something more direct?
[00:17] <dr_willis> itatitat:  in nautilus you mean?
[00:17] <itatitat> for now im using dolphin
[00:17] <Gumby> nicekiwi: did you also modify the users .profile or .bashrc or something like that?
[00:17] <dr_willis> itatitat: use the show hidden files option.....
[00:17] <nicekiwi> Gumby, i modfied the roots /.profile to autostart ssh-agennt
[00:18] <bel3atar> itatitat: ctrl+h
[00:18] <itatitat> yes, im using it, but I dont see anything inside that folder....
[00:18] <itatitat> I should be something
[00:18] <bel3atar> itatitat: lol?
[00:18] <dr_willis> try a different file manager
[00:18] <itatitat> yes, just now, trying to acces with dolphin, I see "could not enter folder /var/lib/aoibaoidsjraosijdf"
[00:18] <nicekiwi> Gumby, wow no, i modified the non-root users dir
[00:18] <itatitat> jummmmmmmm, ok
[00:19] <dr_willis> or just use the terminal...
[00:19] <bel3atar> itatitat: what does this command output: ls -a .ssh
[00:19] <usr13> itatitat: What are you looking for?  .ssh ?      ls -la .s*
[00:20] <itatitat> ooooooooooooh, with konqueror again the same
[00:20] <itatitat> ok, let me try that command
[00:20] <itatitat> permission denied
[00:20] <Gumby> nicekiwi: not sure of that error. could be many things I assume.  I'm not an ssh expert. check if the same error shows if you log in locally via the VPS web console
[00:20] <whjms> itatitat: try ls -l to check permissions on the folder
[00:20] <usr13> itatitat: But it is more-than-likely a directory.  So:   ls .ssh/
[00:21] <nicekiwi> Gumby, nvm. removed the custom script. no error now
[00:21] <itatitat> jum............I made sudo ls -a .ssh/
[00:21] <itatitat> but in the result I dont see anything
[00:21] <bel3atar> itatitat: boot with a live cd and you will be able to access all the files
[00:21] <itatitat> XD
[00:21] <usr13> itatitat: Yes.  You see?  It is a directory.
[00:22] <whjms> itatitat: is it empty?
[00:22] <itatitat> yes, I know is a folder
[00:22] <itatitat> but I think is empty because I havent permissions
[00:22] <nearst> ls -al ?
[00:22] <usr13> itatitat: Ok.  So what is it you are trying to do?
[00:22] <Gryffin> hi, am in persistence mode and is having some problem with mounting. Any takers?
[00:22] <itatitat> mmmmmmmmmmm..............................first, I dont know why I cannot see the content of a folder
[00:23] <usr13> Gryffin: Discribe your problem, maybe we can help.
[00:23] <itatitat> I tried with sudo, and changing tu root user, but nothing, root user is like "disabled"?, the password doesn work, perhaps is unabled
[00:23] <itatitat> I need to check that
[00:23] <usr13> itatitat: I don't know why you can't see it either.  What seems to be the problem?
[00:23] <Gryffin> I'm booting from USB and is in persistence mode.
[00:23] <Gumby> nicekiwi: get that custom conf fixed up and you're good to go :)
[00:23] <Gryffin> The icons for my windows drives shows up..
[00:23] <nicekiwi> how do I setup bash config for a new user, tab completion, colours etc
[00:23] <bel3atar> itatitat: try sudo su
[00:24] <itatitat> when I try to see with the browser (dolphin, konqueror) or konsole, I cannot see the content
[00:24] <nicekiwi> Gumby, yeah.. it seems to be working now
[00:24] <itatitat> ok
[00:24] <whjms> itatitat: 'root' is disabled by default in ubuntu. i believe it's for safety purposes
[00:24] <Gryffin> but when I double-click i get an error saying
[00:24] <itatitat> wow!; genious, that's working
[00:24] <itatitat> thanks a lot
[00:24] <itatitat> ls
[00:24] <whjms> nicekiwi: complete -cf [command] will enable completion on commands and files. -c = commands, -f = files
[00:24] <nearst> !sudo
[00:24] <usr13> itatitat: If it is in your home directory, I doubt that it is owned by another user.  ls -ld .ssh/
[00:25] <Brave> irc.akran.net
[00:25] <Gryffin> Adding read ACL for uid 999 failed- operation not supported
[00:25] <gelph> whjms: although, to become root and *stay* root simply "sudo -i" with no command
[00:25] <whjms> gelph: huh. cool!
[00:25] <Gryffin> usr13: Did u get that? I can repeat if you like
[00:25] <pvl1> Gryffin, are u running as root
[00:25] <nicekiwi> whjms, sweet
[00:25] <serodronin> whats the best audioplayer for flac audio in ubuntu?
[00:26] <bel3atar> serodronin: just installed the coded
[00:26] <Gryffin> root??
[00:26] <bel3atar> serodronin: just installed the codec
[00:26] <bel3atar> serodronin: or vlc
[00:26] <nicekiwi> whjms, wait what? how do i use that?
[00:26] <Gryffin> no
[00:26] <Gryffin> i guess not
[00:26] <pvl1> Gryffin, nevermind, gimme a minuet
[00:26] <usr13> Gryffin: If you say it all at once, it will be easier,  (wont be scattered all over).
[00:26] <whjms> nicekiwi: that'll be in your ~/.bashrc or your ~/.bash_config
[00:26] <Gryffin> okay sure.
[00:26] <Francisco_Favaro> Hi...
[00:27] <usr13> Gryffin: In other words, don't use Enter for punctuation.
[00:27] <whjms> nicekiwi: also, colored ls: "alias ls='ls --color=auto'"
[00:28] <pvl1> Gryffin, http://askubuntu.com/questions/202630/cant-mount-any-partition-acl-error
[00:28] <nicekiwi> whjms, hmm that stuff is in my .bashrc file , but its not working
[00:28] <pvl1> Gryffin, when you open a terminal, what user are you running as
[00:28] <Gryffin> mint
[00:28] <lasers> nicekiwi: Search for "color" -- You may have to uncomment something.
[00:29] <jrib> nicekiwi: how did you create this new user?  Did you use "adduser" by any chance?
[00:29] <lasers> nicekiwi: And then do "source ~/.bashrc"
[00:29] <gelph> nicekiwi be sure to put it last because when it loads the system bashrc it changes the ls alias
[00:29] <dr_willis> nicekiwi:  or you are not using bash.. for some reason.
[00:29] <whjms> nicekiwi: what's not working? colors or completion?
[00:29] <nicekiwi> whjms, both
[00:29] <dr_willis> nicekiwi:  try echo $SHELL
[00:29] <MarKsaitis> "getent: nss_ldap: could not get LDAP result - Can't contact LDAP serv" .... but getent works absolutely fine when I do it manually, any help?
[00:29] <whjms> nicekiwi: what does 'echo $SHELL' give ya?
[00:29] <whjms> oops
[00:30] <nicekiwi> whjms, /bin/sh
[00:30] <nearst> o0o
[00:30] <dr_willis>  there ya go...   this is on a vpn or somthing nicekiwi ?
[00:30] <dr_willis> or vps..
[00:31] <nicekiwi> dr_willis, yeah. over ssh
[00:31] <whjms> nicekiwi: let's try autocompletion first. what command do you want to complete
[00:31] <dr_willis> thats why then
[00:31] <dr_willis> its defaultinmg to sh not bassh
[00:31] <nicekiwi> dr_willis, oh.. the root user has command completion etc
[00:31] <dr_willis> just run bash
[00:31] <dr_willis> and this user will also....
[00:31] <jrib> nicekiwi: you probably used "useradd" but should have used "adduser" to create your user
[00:31] <nicekiwi> jr oh
[00:31] <burner> can anyone help me get compiz to work?  I usually use xfce, but I've been wanting to try the default ubuntu desktop and I can't get compiz to work.  I created a .desktop file on my desktop to launch "openbox --replace" so I can at least have a window manager when I pick the ubuntu session, but I really want to a dash and compiz
[00:32] <whjms> dr_willis: isn't /bin/sh a symlink to the user's default shell, though?
[00:32] <jrib> whjms: sh links to dash on ubuntu by default
[00:32] <dr_willis> whjms:  definatly not
[00:32] <Guest5412> i'd like to remove format from the usb context menu in the unity dock
[00:32] <whjms> hrm
[00:32] <nearst> ls -al /bin/sh -> dash
[00:32] <nicekiwi> jrib, remove the user and re-add with adduser?
[00:33] <Gryffin> Just to be clear, mine is a mint distro, I installed it for first time in persistence mode on usb stick, and booted, now I cannot open my windows hard drives. When try to open in the file explorer, am getting an error saying Adding read ACL for uid 999 to '/media/mint' failed. Operation not supported
[00:33] <jrib> nicekiwi: sure.  Or if you feel confident, you can just change the shell with "chsh"
[00:33] <nicekiwi> jrib, nawh :P
[00:33] <whjms> nearst: what is 'dash'? debian shell?
[00:33] <jrib> !info dash
[00:33] <gelph> whjms it's a smaller bash
[00:33] <lasers> whjms: dash is fast. Useful for booting. When it's interactive shell, it's usually bash (or whatever you prefer).
[00:33] <nearst> default shell for ubuntu installation
[00:34] <Guest5412> when i plug in a usb memory stick,on the usb icons context menu i'd like to remove the format option
[00:34] <Guest5412>  when i plug in a usb memory stick,on the usb icons context menu i'd like to remove the format option
[00:34] <Guest5412>  when i plug in a usb memory stick,on the usb icons context menu i'd like to remove the format option
[00:34] <gelph> Guest5412 why?
[00:34] <dr_willis> we herd you the first 5 time guest54
[00:35] <pavel989> Gryffin, are you able to follow the directions in the website
[00:35] <Guest5412> how do i do it
[00:35] <dr_willis> id say check askubuntu,com - they may know how..
[00:35] <gelph> Guest5412 if you can read/write files and dirs, why not allow format?  seems almost the same thing
[00:35] <Guest5412> so that i dont accedentally click
[00:35] <dr_willis> err... thats a silly reason..
[00:35] <nearst> remove format option.. hmm
[00:36] <gelph> Guest5412 "drive slower to avoid a car wreck?"
[00:36] <whjms> heh
[00:36] <dr_willis> its not like it instantly formats.. it has a dialog and stuff..
[00:36] <lasers> Clicking "format' won't format it, will it?
[00:36] <dr_willis> i think it asks for the sudo password first
[00:36] <lasers> (What dr_willis said)
[00:36] <Guest5412> i want to do this so that a first time linux doesn't make a mistake
[00:37] <nicekiwi> jrib, w00t, that worked :D thank you
[00:37] <lasers> Guest5412: You will make mistakes. Hundred of them. Everybody did.
[00:37] <Guest5412> *linux user
[00:37] <gelph> There may be a way to remove them from a certain group and they no longer have the right to certain operations on devices
[00:37] <Guest5412> is it possible
[00:37] <Guest5412> and how
[00:38] <gelph> Guest5412 It was asked here http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1491530
[00:39] <nearst> xfce4 terminal able to work like yakuake term. love it!
[00:39] <IveBeenBit> I just changed to Ubuntu from Windows and I want to move my Itunes library over. Is there any way to preserve the database - I'm worried about losing the play counts and "last played" dates since I do use those fields pretty often.
[00:39] <IveBeenBit> I'm going to use Rhythmbox from here on out
[00:40] <Guest5412> how do i remove the users right from format the usb memery stick
[00:41] <Guest5412> how comes in pinguy os the option for formatting something is missing
[00:41] <Gryffin> Okay, sorted
[00:41] <Gryffin> http://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.php?f=90&t=117726
[00:41] <Guest5412> how do i remove that option
[00:42] <Guest5412> the way pinguy did
[00:43] <Guest5412> i am a blender user, in windows i can use AMD gpu for display whilst my nvidia gpu for cuda
[00:43] <Guest5412> i am a blender user, in windows i can use AMD gpu for display whilst my nvidia gpu for cuda, how do i do it in ubuntu
[00:44] <Guest5412> i am a blender user, in windows i can use AMD gpu for display whilst my nvidia gpu for cuda, how do i do it in ubuntu
[00:44] <Guest5412> i am a blender user, in windows i can use AMD gpu for display whilst my nvidia gpu for cuda, how do i do it in ubuntu
[00:44] <Gryffin> pvl1: Its ur solution that worked. Thanks.
[00:45] <Guest5412> i am a blender user, in windows i can use AMD gpu for display whilst my nvidia gpu for cuda, how do i do it in ubuntu
[00:45] <Guest5412> i am a blender user, in windows i can use AMD gpu for display whilst my nvidia gpu for cuda, how do i do it in ubuntu
[00:45] <Pici> Guest5412: stop repeating
[00:45] <Guest5412> is this possible in ubuntu
[00:46] <gelph> Guest5412 No
[00:47] <Guest5412> how do i remove the format option from the usb context menu in ubuntu dock
[00:47] <gelph> Guest5412 You can't
[00:47] <Guest5412> how comes pinguy has managed to do that
[00:47] <S_p_or_t_o> howdy, quick question because google is failing me. i'm trying to .bz2 some counter-strike maps, but most documentation and my archive manager give me .tar.bz2.  renaming the tar out of the name doesn't seem to work, any suggestions?
[00:47] <gelph> Guest5412 Ask that in the pinguy channel
[00:47] <Guest5412> oh yeah i forgot
[00:48] <Gerowen> How can I rip my music to OGG using Rhythmbox?  When I try it attempts to install a plugin then says the plugin can't be found.
[00:48] <Gerowen> I'm using 12.10
[00:48] <Bray92820> so the people that were helping me with the bootloader about 24 hours ago
[00:49] <Bray92820> are any of you in here?
[00:50] <pavel989> Gerowen, install plugins in package manager
[00:52] <pavel989> S_p_or_t_o, are you running in terminal or the default app
[00:54] <Bray92820> if you are i just wanted to say how much of a facepalm it was in the dropdown menu it turned out it was set to install on my LVM
[00:54] <cop> i have come back to say that it workedd
[00:54] <Eagleman> I am getting the folliwing error when trying to respond to an email: Policy violation. Your host IPADDRESS has no valid Reverse DNS. Please contact your ISP for further information. How do i setup a Reverse DNS for my mail server?
[00:55] <cop> hopefully you can c it
[00:55] <jrib> S_p_or_t_o: use the bzip2 in the terminal
[00:55] <cop> i upgraded and now the screen is normal resolution
[00:55] <pavel989> Eagleman, are you masking ur IP or does it actually say that
[00:56] <bobafett> are some servers not able to communicate with ipv6 nodes, or something ?
[00:56] <cop> so thank you  mr unknown i dont recall your nick your advice was grait
[00:56] <bekks> bobafett: Correct.
[00:56] <cop> peace
[00:56] <Eagleman> pavel989 the other mail server says that
[00:56] <bobafett> how can i learn more about this situation or problem
[00:56] <bobafett> for example i'm looking at this vps service
[00:56] <bobafett> they are offering ipv4 ip addresses at $1 each per month
[00:57] <bobafett> then it says they will give you an "initial allocation of 60 ipv6 addresses for free"
[00:57] <chadster1975> I installed an additional hard drive and im having trouble getting it to work. tried using ubuntu community to figure it out with no luck.
[00:57] <gelph> Eagleman who is hosting your mail server?  Your DHCP client can "register" the DNS when system starts for example.
[00:57] <deltab> Eagleman: your ISP has to do that
[00:57] <bobafett> so i'm guessing ipv6 is problematic ?
[00:57] <BrainPaid> ubottu: turkey
[00:57] <Eagleman> They have to make a PTR record?
[00:57] <deltab> yeah
[00:57] <nearst> try dig it
[00:59] <chadster1975> used gpart to partition and format drive, but when i try to drag and drop files it says i do not have permissions
[00:59] <dr_willis> chadster1975: partition it. format it.. mount it.. use it.. ;-)
[00:59] <Eagleman> Not sure if i just did it myself but i did changed something in the VPS control panel: IP Address **.**.**.**	Reverse DNS example.com
[00:59] <dr_willis> because you need to set ownership
[00:59] <dr_willis> chadster1975: .. who needs acccess?
[01:00] <gelph> Sometimes you need a period at the end of the CNAME, like example.com.  <-- notice period
[01:00] <gelph> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canonical_name#Details
[01:01] <Eagleman> DOMERR:0006 illegal hostname name 'example.com.'
[01:01] <deltab> Eagleman: that could work but only if the domain for the address is delegated to you
[01:01] <nearst> yup.
[01:01] <dr_willis> chadster1975: so mount ut then chown  the mountpoint to be owned by your user
[01:01] <BrainPaid> Windows 8 is bad, Microsoft is big lose.
[01:01] <gelph> Does the IP address match your canonical name?
[01:01] <Eagleman> deltab i do own the domain, i dont have to change the dns record right?
[01:01] <dr_willis> !permissions | chadster1975
[01:01] <deltab> Eagleman: are you willing to tell us the ip address?
[01:02] <pavel989> Eagleman, i was gonna say... its all about the conf settings
[01:02] <nearst> Eagleman, u can use google reverse dns ptr to your host
[01:02] <pavel989> Eagleman, just use what nearst just said, or google a free reverse dns
[01:02] <Eagleman> vpn.eagleman.net is bound to <IP_ADDRESS> in the DNS settings
[01:03] <deltab> <IP_ADDRESS>.in-addr.arpa domain name pointer vpn.eagleman.net.
[01:03] <pavel989> Eagleman, dyn.com
[01:03] <deltab> yep, that's working
[01:03] <BrainPaid> pavel989: <IP_ADDRESS>.  <IP_ADDRESS>
[01:03] <dr_willis> chadster1975: you formated it to be ext2/3/4? or what exactly
[01:03] <Eagleman> dyn.com?
[01:03] <Eagleman> i already have a domain..
[01:03] <chadster1975> when i have attempted to use chown it has given me problems with identifying
[01:03] <pavel989> BrainPaid, meant google search lol, but thank you
[01:04] <nearst> vpn.eagleman.net.	300	IN	A	<IP_ADDRESS>
[01:04] <BrainPaid> pavel: oh
[01:04] <deltab> Eagleman: you've fixed it
[01:04] <Eagleman> dig vpn.eagleman.net works
[01:04] <Eagleman> not sure about the PTR record
[01:04] <dr_willis> chadster1975: details...  what command.. what errors
[01:04] <chadster1975> i set the partition for ext4
[01:05] <Eagleman> service bind9 restart && dig ptr <IP_ADDRESS>  shows me nothing
[01:05] <deltab> Eagleman: dig -t ptr <IP_ADDRESS>.in-addr.arpa
[01:05] <nearst> A is PTR 0,0
[01:05] <BrainPaid> ubottu: !flood | BrainPaid
[01:05] <chadster1975> i followed the directions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingANewHardDrive . but when i get down to automatic mount at boot i run into problems
[01:05] <deltab> Eagleman: you've already got it working
[01:05] <Eagleman> ok looks like i got a ptr record now
[01:05] <paranon> Hola! Does anyone know where I should start if: I want to route every connection a program attempts to make to <IP_ADDRESS> rather than my VPN?
 route.exe works but the program in question uses a ton of different ips!
[01:06] <Eagleman> thanks
[01:06] <gelph> sometimes there's a lag with these dns records
[01:06] <deltab> that's caching
[01:06] <dr_willis> chadster1975:  you mount it. rhe  chown its mountppoint to be iwned by your user.
[01:06] <Eagleman> I know, thats why i restarted bind9 so it will flush the cache
[01:06] <nearst> Eagleman, http://www.howtoforge.com/howtos/dns is good source to understand how dns work
[01:06] <BrainPaid> ubottu: !permissions | ubottu
[01:06] <deltab> not your cache, other people's
[01:07] <dr_willis> chadster1975: then make a fstab entry
[01:07] <chadster1975> it says it best to use https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingUUID instead of doing it manually so i tried that page and got down to the fstab part but then it says i didnt create file or something
[01:07] <deltab> Eagleman: the mail server that rejected your message may or may not still have the outdated nxdomain result cached
[01:08] <deltab> Eagleman: not much you can do if it has but wait
[01:08] <Eagleman> deltab:  postqueue -p is emtpy now, so it looks like it accepted the mail from me
[01:08] <pavel989> paranon, what difference is it. your vpn is your private network afterall, right?
[01:08] <dr_willis> chadster1975: the directory you are mounting to MUST exist befor you mount
[01:08] <pavel989> paranon, can you give a bit more detail
[01:08] <paranon> pavel989 the vpn is located in sweden and i want to use Netflix on the same computer
[01:08] <nicekiwi> how do I add a user to the sudoers group?
[01:08] <paranon> pavel989 netflix will only let me connect via the states where i'm at
[01:08] <gelph> visudo
[01:09] <gelph> man visudo for format and weird syntax inside it
[01:09] <lkzone> whats the best translator for pt-br?
[01:09] <nearst> google-translator? :)
[01:09] <nicekiwi> gelph, the group. not the file
[01:09] <pavel989> paranon, ah okok ty. one sec
[01:10] <chadster1975> dr_willis: i used the mkdir command and created the directory like it said to
[01:10] <paranon> pavel989 ok cool
[01:10] <gelph> If there is a normal group, simply usermod -a -G whatever
[01:10] <gelph> just basic user group membership add
[01:11] <gelph> if group is "weirdos" then: usermod -a -G weirdos nicekiwi
[01:11] <gelph> ;-)
[01:11] <chadster1975> then when i tried the $ sudo chmod thing thats when it said directory does not exist. weird because i just created it i thought
[01:11] <gelph> To avoid messing it all up badly, do "groups nicekiwi" before and after your group modification command
[01:11] <nicekiwi> gelph, right
[01:12] <dr_willis> chadster1975: exact commands used  and the error messages please....
[01:12] <nearst> dr_willis, u use ati display? or nvidia?
[01:12] <chadster1975> dr_willis: sure thing, just take me a min
[01:12] <dr_willis> chadster1975: first guess is a typo or lack of using the proper full path
[01:13] <dr_willis> nearst: i got 1ati and 4nvidia
[01:13] <pavel989> paranon, private message me please, just a phone call
[01:13] <nicekiwi> what does this mean? # See sudoers(5) for more information on "#include" directives:
[01:13] <dr_willis> nicekiwi:   man 5 sudoers
[01:13] <nicekiwi> ah
[01:14] <dr_willis> 5 is a man section
[01:14] <chadster1975> dr_willis: i took the part that says "Note: Ubuntu now recommends to use UUID instead, see the instructions here:https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingUUID" to mean that i didnt have to do all the fstab stuff below it. is that correct?
[01:14] <gelph> dr_willis you're a clever dude
[01:14] <dr_willis> 5 is for codeing u think
[01:15] <dr_willis> chadster1975: give us details...  whats the fstab line.....
[01:15] <chadster1975> dr_willis: should i continue on with the "gksu gedit /etc/fstab stuff?
[01:15] <gelph> dr_willis "man man" says section 5 is "5   File formats and conventions eg /etc/passwd"
[01:15] <dr_willis> you make a fstab entry yes chadster1975
[01:17] <gelph> chadster1975 The UUID simply refers to the partition by "unique id" rather than path such as /dev/sda3 in case the partition or device moves it will still find it
[01:17] <chadster1975> dr_willis: i was confused because it says "Add this line to the end (for ext3 file system):"   but i used ext4, so thought "gosh, i dont have to do that"
[01:17] <dr_willis> so use ext4
[01:17] <dr_willis> not ext3 in the wxample
[01:18] <Eagleman> ANy idea why this is shown non-alpabetical? IP address for tun1:    <IP_ADDRESS>  IP address for tun0:    <IP_ADDRESS>
[01:18] <Eagleman> this is how it is started in crontab -e:
[01:18] <Eagleman> @reboot                                                                                screen -d -m -S OpenVPN-UDP-Client /usr/sbin/openvpn /etc/openvpn/client/udp-client.ovpn
[01:18] <Eagleman> @reboot                                                                                screen -d -m -S OpenVPN-TCP-Client /usr/sbin/openvpn /etc/openvpn/client/tcp-client.ovpn
[01:21] <chadster1975> accidentally logged out of pidgin, sorry.
[01:22] <nearst> different segment ip
[01:22] <chadster1975> added line "/dev/sdb1    /media/mynewdrive   ext4    defaults     0        2" to last line of fstab
[01:23] <dr_willis> chadster1975:  and ls /media    shows a newdrive  directory?
[01:23] <nearst> why jockey not detect my ati fglrx?
[01:24] <dr_willis> sudo mount /media/newdrive   gives an error  chadster1975 ?
[01:24] <chadster1975> after i added the line i clicked "save", is that enough to make the change or do i need to "save as" and specify the /etc directory?
[01:24] <craigbass1976> What's the best way to remote control a 12.10 box from windows 7 over the internet?  A friend of mine already has xrdp running, but it only works I guess if he has the user set for autologin.
[01:24] <gelph> nearst: maybe it did but it's proprietary so you need to explicitly ask Ubuntu to start using it
[01:24] <buddha_> xgenstudios.com
[01:25] <dr_willis> you did edit the existing /etc/fstab file? chadster1975 ?
[01:25] <Eagleman> nearst its sorted like this: tun1 tun0 tun3 tun4
[01:25] <Eagleman> tun3 and tun4 are sorted correctly
[01:26] <chadster1975> ok, so i have this done so far   chad@chad-ubuntu-desktop:~$ gksu gedit /etc/fstab
[01:26] <chadster1975> chad@chad-ubuntu-desktop:~$ sudo chown -R chad:chad /media/mynewdrive
[01:26] <chadster1975> chad@chad-ubuntu-desktop:~$
[01:26] <bekks> chadster1975: Did you do that after it was mounted?
[01:26] <phunyguy> !polls | craigbass1976
[01:26] <chadster1975> bekks: i think i did yes
[01:26] <dr_willis> chadster1975:  you mount it then chow
[01:27] <nearst> gelph, not sure, im using radeon atm, try to use ati-legacy
[01:27] <chadster1975> i thought i had already mounted it in gparted
[01:27] <dr_willis> use mount command to see if its moynted  chadster1975
[01:27] <nearst> gelph, my resolution now is 1024x768 too :(
[01:27] <dr_willis> or just try to unmount then remount it
[01:27] <chadster1975> i ran mount and it spit out quite a bit. whole page long
[01:27] <gelph> legacy is "old", fglrx is "very very new", radeon ati (amd) is in the middle (sort of)
[01:28] <craigbass1976> Does anyone know why xrdp would work with autologin turned on but not when it's off?
[01:28] <dr_willis> chadster1975: and you want the one line tgat mentios the point we are messi g with...
[01:28] <gelph> nearst: there's a bunch of howto links here http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/Fglrx
[01:29] <chadster1975> dr_willis: i think its mounted, but it has a long crazy name i didnt assign.  "/dev/sdb1 on /media/chad/4c0fd11a-4942-41ed-9dd0-5f4ff559d193 type ext4 (rw,nosuid,nodev,uhelper=udisks2)
[01:29] <chadster1975> "
[01:29] <nicekiwi> anyone help me with git? im trying 'git push origin master' and get Permission denied (publickey).
[01:29] <nicekiwi> fatal: The remote end hung up unexpectedly
[01:29] <OerHeks> craigbass1976, with autologin turned off, the host gets a popup to grant the remote acces
[01:30] <craigbass1976> OerHeks, Ahhh...  Can it be set to auto accept if there's a correct username and pass?
[01:30] <OerHeks> craigbass1976, sure, for any guest :-D 7777
[01:31] <JohnAbbotCostelo> ?
[01:31] <dr_willis> chadster1975:  becasue the system auto mountged it there  - because you had no fstgabb entgry for it
[01:31] <craigbass1976> OerHeks, Sshhh... I'm worried the fellow might try it.
[01:31] <OerHeks> oh i read incorrect username and pass
[01:31] <dr_willis> chadster1975:  so umount  it ;))
[01:31] <chadster1975> dr_willis: will unmounting and remounting assign new name then?
[01:31] <dr_willis> chadster1975:  sudo umount /dev/sdb1
[01:31] <dr_willis> your fstab entry defines where it goe to now..
[01:32] <craigbass1976> OerHeks, what do you mean?  No you can't if the user gives the proper username and pass?
[01:32] <dr_willis> that long crazy name IS gthe uuid of gthe filesysgtem
[01:32] <chadster1975> dr_willis:  ahh! looks like i got it now
[01:32] <mbeierl> Is there an iOS 6 capable media manager?  I just tried Banshee and while it looked like it was working, it just ended up doing nothing.
[01:32] <nearst> gelph, err. im prefer 13.1 legacy driver
[01:33] <gelph> nearst: you began by asking: "why jockey not detect my ati fglrx?"
[01:33] <gelph> nearst: now you say you don't want it?  what is your question?
[01:34] <mbeierl> And now Banshee won't even recognize the iphone when it's plugged in again.
[01:34] <OerHeks> craigbass1976, yes you can. my mistake is reading "giving acces without username and pass"
[01:34] <chadster1975> it didnt reject my chown command this time
[01:35] <chadster1975> worked 100%, thank you dr_willis and gelph. you two are great!
[01:35] <GeekSquid> papa
[01:35] <gelph> dr_willis is the master, I am the padawan
[01:36] <chadster1975> thats done. now i can get back to battlestar galactica. thanks again!
[01:38] <Eagleman> WIll this command avoid using port 1197 for sending and recieving on my local computer, the command is executed on the server: iptables -t nat -A PREROUTING -p tcp -d **.***.**.** --dport 443 -j REDIRECT --to-port 1197
[01:38] <Gerowen> Is the "format" option supposed to be present in 12.10 if I right click the icon for a USB drive on the Unity bar?
[01:39] <Gerowen> Because it's not, and I'd like to restore it.
[01:40] <nicekiwi> how do I view a sshkey ive generated?
[01:40] <KxTwo> Windows guys are easy to troll lol
[01:40] <bekks> nicekiwi: By using a text editor
[01:41] <nicekiwi> helpful... o_0
[01:41] <PHYSICIST> Greetings. How can I see the enable kernel in my 10.04?
[01:41] <bekks> nicekiwi: If you dont like the answer, I cant help you. A SSH key is a plaintext file.
[01:42] <nicekiwi> yes, however I need to copy the text and I dont have a GUI
[01:42] <PHYSICIST> Greetings. How can I see the enable kernel in my 10.04?
[01:43] <bekks> nicekiwi: There are text editors for console use, like vim or nano-
[01:43] <nicekiwi> ok, next quextion. how do u copy text in nano?
[01:44] <craigbass1976> OerHeks, have you seen a walkthrough anywhere?
[01:44] <dr_willis> nicekiwi:  you can copy.paste and edit in the console
[01:45] <OerHeks> craigbass1976, for xrdp ?
[01:45] <dr_willis> nano has all the shortcuts listed at the bottom i thought. I tend to use vi,
[01:45] <PHYSICIST> dr_willis, how can I see the enable kernel in my 10.04?
[01:46] <nicekiwi> dr_willis, how?
[01:46] <craigbass1976> OerHeks, Yes.  I've got to hold up a working tutorial against what this fellow has already done (bash_history I guess) and hope for the best.  I also don't have Windows 7 to test with...
[01:46] <nicekiwi> dr_willis, i have a RSA key to copy into github.. how do I get it?
[01:47] <hello-world> hi guys!
[01:48] <PHYSICIST> !password
[01:53] <OerHeks> craigbass1976, looks easy, but check the 1st comment about keyring ...  http://www.liberiangeek.net/2012/05/connect-to-ubuntu-12-04-precise-pangolin-via-windows-remote-desktop/
[01:54] <dr_willis> nicekiwi:  one way. save it to a file.. then load what4ever other file you want it in vi   and you can then 'read' the first file and insert it into the 2nd file.
[01:54] <dr_willis> in vi i recall its   :r filename
[01:55] <dr_willis> not sure on that.. not on a ubuntu box at the moment
[01:56] <seyfarth> i opened thunderbird once on accident, and now i have the fabled envelope of uselessness on my panel. how do I get rid of it?
[01:56] <nicekiwi> uhh k
[01:57] <seyfarth> i really hate that thing... needs a button pin or something. just turning blue is useless
[01:57] <dr_willis> vi has a full set of cut/paste/buffers/files multi file editing support
[01:57] <Kentrel> Is Aptitude a better tool to fix messed up packages. It's offering me solutions. Should I take them?
[01:59] <gener1c> is there a chance that dash would change for some reason its color on its own ?
[01:59] <gener1c> it just did it without me initiating it..
[01:59] <gener1c> changed to light purple
[02:00] <tomreyn> not that i know of, but i haven't used it for a while
[02:00] <dr_willis> the left side panel changes color based on the wallpaper
[02:00] <dr_willis> as a new feature
[02:00] <tomreyn> oh
[02:00] <gener1c> but i didnt change the wallpaper
[02:01] <dr_willis> it can be turned off. so perhaps it was off then came on.. or visa versa...
[02:01] <gener1c> ok odd :P
[02:01] <tomreyn> light purple sounds like it could be complementary color. maybe it's a video driver bug?
[02:02] <tomreyn> i guess i would log off and on again
[02:02] <tomreyn> ...and see whether it remains
[02:02] <gener1c> well there is another but with moving from my 22" HD screen back to the laptop , windows still remember the size of the 22" and are hard to minimize
[02:03] <dr_willis> smurf people v bug. ;)
[02:03] <gener1c> bug*
[02:04] <gener1c> not sure if i care enough to report it :P
[02:06] <Rabblerouser> When 13.04 rolls around, am I going to have to use the same trick I did in 12.10 to get my Radeon HD 4670 to work on it?
[02:07] <bradlee> google
[02:08] <Kentrel> I think you'll see video cards are going to be well supported in 2013 and going into 2014
[02:08] <Kentrel> I really believe Valve are starting a revolution with gaming on Linux
[02:08] <chadster1975> im back with another problem. ive installed a 2nd operating system to boot besides ubuntu. can i remove the other OS go back to single boot ubuntu?
[02:08] <jrib> chadster1975: sure, which OS's grub do you have on the mbr at the moment?
[02:09] <Rabblerouser> Yeah, but ATI isn't Valve, Kentre
[02:09] <Alfabet> How are the games running with valve?
[02:09] <chadster1975> jrib: the other OS is Backtrack 5 R3.. not sure which grub they use
[02:09] <seyfarth> valve can only open the doors, users have to walk through. ATI/nvidia will only make drivers with demand. e.g. if valve's settop box succeeds
[02:09] <jrib> chadster1975: well, you can get rid of the backtrack partition and if you have trouble booting, just follow ubottu's directions on restoring grub after windows
[02:09] <jrib> !grub | chadster1975
[02:10] <bradlee> google
[02:10] <Rabblerouser> We allowed to link here?
[02:12] <Rabblerouser> This is what I have to do now since I have an older GPU. http://www.unixmen.com/ubuntu-12-10-and-amd-catalyst-problem-solved/ My question is will I have to do this again in 13.04
[02:13] <chadster1975> ok. so first order of business in removing bactrack is to use gpart to remove the partition and then resize the ubuntu partition to take up the whole drive?
[02:14] <chadster1975> the help files for grub assume grub is lost or damaged, so thats for after i change partition stuff right?
[02:16] <jrib> chadster1975: you'll only need that if you currently have backtrack's grub handling your boot
[02:17] <chadster1975> jrib: so dont worry about the grub stuff if i use gpart to remove the whole partition right?
[02:17] <nut> hows it going yall?
[02:17] <chadster1975> whole backtrack partition, not the ubuntu one.
[02:20] <dr_willis> dedpends on which os is handling grub. ;)
[02:20] <dr_willis> boot to ubuntu and have it reinstall grub.. to be sure ubuntu is the os thats got controll of grub.
[02:21] <dr_willis> then remove the other partions
[02:22] <keithclark_> I'm trying to install xubuntu version of ubuntu but my touchpad will not work, any ideas?
[02:23] <snadge> can anyone else install adblock plus for chrome? or is it just me that can't
[02:23] <bekks> snadge: Works fine here.
[02:23] <snadge> i click on it.. it comes up with the thingy to "add to chrome" .. click add.. does nothing
[02:23] <dr_willis> you get a specific error message snadge ?
[02:23] <dr_willis> just that eh.. weord
[02:23] <snadge> no error message.. just disappears.. and doesnt work.. frustrating :)
[02:23] <nicekiwi> if i need to modify a virtualhost config file, do i modifty the one in /sites-enabled or /sites-avaliable?
[02:24] <nicekiwi> in apache2
[02:24] <snadge> bekks: what version of chrome are you running?
[02:24] <snadge> i have 18.0.1025.162
[02:25] <elena-IK> I have a problem with mouse lag. cursor movements are delayed by about 1.5 seconds. worked fine yesterday before shut down. the cursor lags no matter what desktop environment I use. the mouse is a logitech mx 518. any ideas?
[02:26] <bekks> snadge: 25.x
[02:26] <snadge> whoah.. i see the problem then.. my chrome is a bit outdated
[02:27] <civixier> Hello, I could really really use some help with this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1603302/
[02:29] <seyfarth> civixier: are you on a desktop? because i'm doing this right now :)
[02:29] <seyfarth> civixier: at least, on my laptop
[02:30] <civixier> seyfarth: I am on a desktop. I have a gts 450 card and an integrated intel card :)
[02:33] <seyfarth> civixier: gimme a sec, see if i can figure out whats up
[02:35] <civixier> seyfarth: I really appreciate it. I try my best to figure it out, but this seems to be as far as I can get.
[02:35] <_helios_> this is kind of a newbish question but what exactly does ureadahead will be reprofiled on next reboot mean?
[02:35] <dr_willis> !info ureadahead
[02:35] <dr_willis> its a preloading feature
[02:36] <dr_willis> i rember  when it first came out years ago as a fancy new feature.. ;)  now no one ecen thinks twice about it
[02:37] <dr_willis> it preloads  files  to make the system boot/load faster
[02:37] <Silverfox> http://pastebin.ca/2310185 <-- Why is there no /lib/modules/xxx/build directory ?
[02:38] <_helios_> dr_willis: so it will start preloading files next boot up.
[02:38] <dr_willis> it  has to generate a profile of whats going on so it will know what to preload.
[02:39] <dr_willis> nothing to worry about. ;)
[02:40] <bob__> Just installed 12.04... first LInux and IRC in years... hope it is like riding a bike
[02:41] <Silverfox> Lots of google hits on this error, but all point to installing linux-headers, which I have installed.  Not sure what I'm missing.
[02:41] <_helios_> bob__: it's easier than riding a bike the first time in my opinion, a heck of allot easier than it use to be.
[02:41] <tomreyn> bikes still don't have a graphical user interface
[02:41] <Silverfox> nor a package management system.
[02:42] <dr_willis> aptt-get install little-dingly-bell ;)
[02:42] <dr_willis> but linux has gotten more training-wheels over the years
[02:43] <Silverfox> http://www.instructables.com/id/Google-Bike/
[02:44] <bob__> I managed a dept with AIX and HP-UNIX for a while.. and just played briefly with a couple Dists back in 2004.. so I have not seen Linux for a while.. WOW does not come close
[02:44] <dasgud> hello everyone :)
[02:45] <seyfarth> civixier: ok. i use http://community.linuxmint.com/tutorial/view/610 to manage the fancy nvidia/intel switch on my laptop. it might work for you
[02:45] <seyfarth> civixier: honestly never done it on a desktop, where a lot of them disable the integrated card at the bios level
[02:45] <seyfarth> but you seem to ahve it working
[02:45] <_helios_> bob__: it's allot nicer, kicks Windows butt in many different ways
[02:46] <chadster1975> ok, i booted using ubuntu live usb, went into gparted and im attempting to remove 2nd partition. when i try to delete the 2nd partition it says "please unmount any logical partitions having a number higher than 6".
[02:46] <civixier> seyfarth: I start to believe that I got very very lucky with my xorg.conf. I am far from a Xconfig ninja ;)
[02:46] <Noskcaj> ping to anyone involved with the iso tracker
[02:46] <Silverfox> Noskcaj: no route to host
[02:47] <Noskcaj> ok?
[02:47] <bob__> I put 10.04 on an old dell desktop.. and just put 12.04 on a Dell (still old) Latitude 620 and it seems to be handling the load.
[02:47] <dr_willis> chadster1975: unmount any partions you want to alter first
[02:48] <_helios_> bob__: You could put Xubuntu which is basicaly still Ubuntu just uses the Xfce desktop enviroment instead of Unity/Gnome I run Xubuntu 12.1064bit on my older desktop and 12.1064bit Unity on my laptop.
[02:48] <dr_willis> chadster1975: you may need to do   sudo swapoff   also
[02:48] <bob__> Not sensing my Broadcom 4311 Wireless though.. and when I added the driver.. it killed the kernel..
[02:48] <chadster1975> when i use "sudo umount /dev/sbd6" or any other sdb# it says "not mounted"
[02:49] <dr_willis> yse the mount command to see whats mounted
[02:50] <_helios_> bob__: You could probably use ndiswrapper but I would just suggest purchasing a new wifi card that has native linux drivers for it because it will save you allot of hassle.
[02:51] <bob__> Laptop.. and a Dell 620... not sure what I am going to do.. yet.. sort of locked into it.. have not heard of ndiswrapper.. so I will look at that... so much to learn again
[02:51] <chadster1975> dr_willis: there is a lot there, but device-wise i only see /dev/sdc1...and i think thats the ubuntu live usb, right?
[02:51] <dasgud> I have a question about unity restoration. I had a problem with unity yesterday morning. following some nefarious forum posts I uninstalled it. Now I can't boot because when I try, I get a popup that I am in low graphics mode and it just sits there. Is there a way to restore unity using a boot disk?
[02:51] <bob__> Well , wife is calling .. been a pleasure helios.. thx
[02:52] <bob__> I will be back later
[02:52] <dr_willis> chadster1975: no idea.  sudo blkid may give a clue
[02:54] <_helios_> dasgud: You should beable to restore using the Live CD/USB
[02:54] <chadster1975> dr_willis: i have two /dev/loop then sdb1, 5,6,and 7. weird they dont show up under mount.  maybe i switched the "d" and the "b" in sdb.. ill try again
[02:55] <nearst> hi ppl
[02:55] <_helios_> nearst: hello
[02:57] <_helios_> Ok one more question for the night, How are some people on this server getting there host to say freebsd/user/blah or user/unaffiliated
[02:57] <_helios_> I know that it could be a virtual host but I've never seen a vhost in that format.
[02:57] <nearst> c0re
[02:57] <manup> can someone help me with an issue im having
[02:57] <manup> im new to ubuntu :$
[02:58] <dasgud> @ helio  Thank you for answering. When I try I don't get an option to restore, only to format and clean install, install alongside or change partitions. nothing about restoring
[02:58] <nearst> _helios_, u can apply for user/anaffiliated at #freenode
[02:59] <_helios_> nearst: thanks
[02:59] <nearst> _helios_, just ask for the staff and request for it :)
[03:00] <_helios_> dasgud: I'm not an expert by any means but what you should try to do is boot from a Live CD, backup all important files you can on the drive and then just do a fresh install,  Unfortunetaly that's all I would know how to do I'm still a half newb
[03:00] <manup> before i installed ubuntu i copied some documents to my phone internal storage. now im trying to copy back simple pdf and .doc files and its not copying the files saying that they are not supported.
[03:00] <dasgud> right helios. thanks again. I have that planned too. that would be part two of my question
[03:02] <_helios_> dasgud: To backup your data just boot from the Live CD and use the Try Ubuntu option when the desktop loads that's when you can read the drive and get your important data off it via external HD or flash drives.
[03:02] <manup> and i tried to look info online but couldnt find anything. !
[03:03] <dasgud> I have copied my whole ~/ folder to a hard drive. I'm just wondering if there is anything I should copy still.
[03:04] <chadster1975> dr_willis: i was able to delete the old partition but only by using the swapoff command in the menu of gparted and not by using "sudo swapoff -a" in terminal. odd, but at least it worked
[03:05] <dr_willis> i mentioned swapoff earlier.....   ;-)
[03:06] <dr_willis> live cd auto enabled the seen swap partition
[03:06] <chadster1975> dr_willis: you totally called it, just weird the swapoff command didnt work from terminal and only from inside gparted. usually command line is the most solid.
[03:09] <Ramsrambo> Hi! I am on 12.10 Quantal and my browsers not able to play youtube - no audio
[03:11] <mikehaas763> Does anyone know if there is an app for saving my window positions? I'm a dev and I like to have my browser open and sized with a couple other terminals opened and sized and positioned. I'd like to replicate this easily everytime
[03:11] <Silverfox> I managed to compile a new module for my wifi (wl.ko), and did a depmod, and modprobe, but don't see any network interfaces with wireless extensions showing up.  Did I miss a step?
[03:12] <Tex_Nick> Ramsrambo:  is that with more than one browser ?
[03:13] <nearst> Silverfox, usb or pci?
[03:13] <Silverfox> pci
[03:13] <Ramsrambo> Tex_Nick : Yeah! firefox and chrome
[03:14] <Ramsrambo> Tex_Nick : there are 2 sound card on my PC
[03:14] <nearst> what type
[03:14] <Ramsrambo> Tex_Nick : pulse audio gets hooked on to the motherboard audio
[03:14] <Silverfox> broadcom BCM4322
[03:15] <Tex_Nick> Ramsrambo:  ah ok ... you prefer to use the pereferal audio card ?
[03:15] <Ramsrambo> Tex_Nick : there is also a SBX usb card which is on ALSA
[03:15] <nearst> try with jockey? sudo jockey-gtk
[03:15] <zykotick9> Ramsrambo: not sure if this applies to situations using pulse, but with firefox - i can ONLY get sound out of first sound devices listed in /proc/asound/cards  (hope this info is helpful, i'm not sure it is)
[03:16] <Silverfox> nearst: don't know anything about jockey.  I'll do some reading.
[03:16] <Ramsrambo> Tex_Nick : what I need to change to make it play in my USB card ?
[03:16] <chadster1975> after partitioning and resizing ubuntu partition im getting "grub rescue>"  is there a fix for this or should i reinstall?
[03:16] <Tex_Nick> Ramsrambo:  if you don't use the motherboard audio ... i would first disable it in BIOS
[03:17] <nearst> Silverfox, http://askubuntu.com/questions/218986/how-to-fix-a-broadcom-43224-rev-01-in-ubuntu-12-10-running-on-a-macbook-pro
[03:17] <Ramsrambo> Tex_Nick : not sure if I can do that - I do not think there is an option in BIOS to do that
[03:18] <Tex_Nick> Ramsrambo:  what MoBo are you using ... or what PC make and model
[03:18] <Ramsrambo> Tex_Nick : this motherboard is old intel 865gbf so the BIOS will not have that option
[03:19] <chadster1975> full error is "error: no such partition" then "grub rescue>"
[03:19] <Silverfox> nearst: think it makes any difference that I'm on a Dell laptop here?
[03:19] <Silverfox> Dell E6400
[03:19] <Ben64> chadster1975: what exactly did you change
[03:19] <Ramsrambo> Tex_Nick : in /proc/asound there are two directories card0 and card1
[03:20] <Ramsrambo> Tex_Nick : anyway to blacklist or something like that
[03:20] <chadster1975> Ben64: had ubuntu 12.10 and Backtrack 5 R3 dual boot. used gparted to delete backtrack partition
[03:20] <Silverfox> I see the module loaded in lsmod, but iwconfig shows no interfaces.  I'm thinking I need to tell the module to look for wlan0 or something.  Just not sure where.
[03:21] <Ramsrambo> Tex_Nick : when I click on audio ICON it crashes so I cannot change anything there
[03:21] <Silverfox> nearst: thats basically what I'm doing.  I am compiling my own module, however, because broadcom has released a fix for the driver that caused several channels to not be visible.
[03:22] <Tex_Nick> Ramsrambo:  i'm i'm looking for a solution
[03:22] <Ramsrambo> Tex_Nick : I am here and waiting
[03:23] <nearst> Silverfox, im not too sure about that channels issue :(
[03:23] <Ben64> chadster1975: did you have backtrack installed first?
[03:24] <chadster1975> Ben64: yeah, i think it would boot into backtrack as priority.
[03:24] <Ramsrambo> Tex_Nick : when I play on youtube in browser it is going to pulse audio bcos I can see that on PULSEAudio Volume meter
[03:24] <Ben64> chadster1975: if i were you, i'd use the boot-repair utility with an ubuntu live cd, it should be able to detect and fix the problem
[03:24] <nearst> Silverfox, http://www.ubuntubuzz.com/2011/09/fixing-broadcom-43xx-wireless-card.html
[03:24] <chadster1975> Ben64: will give that a try right away
[03:25] <Ben64> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[03:28] <BroBert> hey can anywher ehere give me some live assistant?
[03:28] <BroBert> can some one help?
[03:29] <xangua> !ask | BroBert
[03:30] <BroBert> !ask | I am having some trouble setting up ubuntu 12.1 on my acer aspire desktop i chose the option to completeley overwrite windows and it installed fine and when i restarted it says "ERROR: no boot disk has been detected or the disk has failed." what do i do?
[03:31] <Tex_Nick> Ramsrambo:  have you tried to switch the device in alsamixer ?
[03:31] <Silverfox> nearst: bcmwl is the module I just compiled.
[03:31] <BroBert> Tex_Nick: was that directed at me?
[03:31] <Ramsrambo> Tex_Nick : yes! I hv done that
[03:31] <ganeshonubuntu> most likely issue is grub
[03:32] <_helios_> BroBert: have you checked your boot device priority in your bios?
[03:32] <Ramsrambo> Tex_nick : in /etc/modeprob.d/alsa-conf all of them are 2
[03:32] <BroBert> _helios_: yes and EFI is the first boot device
[03:32] <P-CHAN> who is more stable.  Ubuntu or Debian Sid?
[03:32] <bazhang> !ot | P-CHAN
[03:33] <ganeshonubuntu> is any one aware of professional accounting package on ubuntu
[03:33] <Tex_Nick> Ramsrambo:  searching ...
[03:33] <ChaozHenchman> gnu-cash
[03:33] <bazhang> ganeshonubuntu, apt-cache search accounting
[03:33] <johnathan> hey
[03:33] <johnathan> i really really really need help
[03:33] <johnathan> like im about to an hero lol
[03:33] <_helios_> BroBert: does grub load? and then it says that or does grub not load and it goes directly to the error
[03:34] <Ramsrambo> Tex_Nick : in /etc/modeprobe.ds/alsa-base.conf all of them are -2
[03:34] <BroBert> _helios_: i cant really tell i just see my bootup screen that has the option for boot device or bios settigns and then it goes to a screen allowing me to hit CTRL+F for RAID ROM utility (not sure what that is) then it goes black and outputs that error
[03:34] <ganeshonubuntu> it simply means that grub has not written any thing.  Simply give a 2nd try and reinstall.
[03:35] <usr13> !efi | BroBert
[03:35] <Ramsrambo> Tex_Nick : any diff betwn -2 and 2
[03:35] <johnathan> i have an aspire one netbook and ubuntu simply refuses to run on it, i install it and it freeses when booting, ive tried like 12 linux distros tonight
[03:35] <BroBert> _helios_: also everytime i hit a key at the error window it displays the eror again
[03:35] <usr13> !uefi | BroBert
[03:36] <BroBert> usr13: ok let me look into doing that
[03:36] <Silverfox> the problem I'm having is I'm familiar with /etc/network/interfaces, and ubuntu's 'new' way completely eludes me.
[03:36] <_helios_> BroBert: try to follow ubottu's link it might have the fix you need.
[03:36] <Tex_Nick> Ramsrambo:  not sure ... you're probably going to need more help than i can i can provide ... i'm still looking though
[03:36] <ganeshonubuntu> my mouse on ubuntu is too fast.  system setting mouse set on minimum but still pretty much unusable
[03:37] <chadster1975> Ben64: boot-repair not working very well so far. starts to load then locks up just after loading the optical mouse
[03:37] <BroBert> _helios_: im going to
[03:37] <nearst> Silverfox, working good?
[03:37] <johnathan> can someone please help me? im sorry to be demanding but i really need to get this working
[03:37] <ganeshonubuntu> ubuntu usb pen drive write is very very slow.. please help
[03:37] <keithclark_> How do I erase and reformat a usb stick drive?  I've tried gparted but it doesn't work form me.  All those functions are greyed out.
[03:38] <Silverfox> nearst: no, the bcmwl and bcm43 drivers in the official repos have bugs/problems and don't work with certain AP's.
[03:38] <Silverfox> which is why I'm trying to get my compiled module working
[03:38] <bazhang> keithclark_, in 12.10 the software "disks" has that option
[03:38] <_helios_> keithclark_: goto http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/howto-format-usb-pen-drive/ it has step by step instructions using the terminal.
[03:39] <keithclark_> It is that complicaterd?
[03:39] <bazhang> keithclark_, disks? no, it's GUI
[03:39] <nearst> Silverfox, u try manually change to specific channel? iwconfig <wifi> channel <channel no> ?
[03:39] <_helios_> keithclark_: It's not hard but I just don't know it by heart lol
[03:40] <Silverfox> nearst: I'd rather get a good driver installed.  I can't log into every AP and change the channel.  Starbucks frowns on that sort of thing.
[03:41] <Ramsrambo> Tex_Nick : It started working I just clicked on system speaker and it is working now
[03:41] <johnathan> please i just need an operating system, i completely got rid of windows on my brand new notebook because i was sure ubuntu would work, i have no idea whats going on
[03:42] <keithclark_> I just want to 'burn' an o/s onto my usb stick drive but it does not seem to work with unetbootin
[03:42] <Tex_Nick> Ramsrambo:  cool ... how easy was that ;-)
[03:42] <_helios_> johnathan: what's the problem you are having?
[03:43] <craigbass1976> Is it possible to use an ubuntu 12.04 dvd to upgrade a 10.04 install?  My ISP is terrible and the downloads (during upgrade process) keep borking when the connection drops.
[03:43] <johnathan> helios im trying to install ubuntu on my aspire one d270-1895 netbook. the live install side launches but it crashes when i try to try it, if i install it it will install but then when i try to boot it it crashes the exact same way
[03:43] <Ramsrambo> Tex_Nick : I do not know - I just changed the device for O/p
[03:43] <xangua> !alternate | craigbass1976
[03:43] <xangua> mmmmm....
[03:44] <keithclark_> It says it wrote to the usb stick but it does not
[03:44] <Ramsrambo> Tex_Nick : I selected SB X-fi surround 5.1
[03:44] <_helios_> johnathan: Give me a second I'll do a search for ya real quick.
[03:44] <craigbass1976> xangua, not sure what you're saying. I've got the regulat 12.04 dvd
[03:44] <craigbass1976> regular
[03:44] <xangua> craigbass1976: you need the alternate iso, not the desktop http://releases.ubuntu.com/precise/
[03:44] <xangua> and there are several guides out there to use the alternate to upgrade
[03:45] <craigbass1976> xangua, fah...  I'll just fresh install then
[03:45] <Ramsrambo> Tex_Nick : Thnx for all the help
[03:45] <Tex_Nick> Ramsrambo:  looks like you're good to go ... ^5 and good going :-)
[03:48] <bazhang> !alternate | xangua
[03:48] <_helios_> johnathan: I've been doing some searching and from what I've read so far your notebook should be compatible with Ubuntu 12.10,  What is the error message your are getting?
[03:49] <xangua> bazhang: already read it...whice now, thanks :)
[03:49]  * xangua insets sarcasm here
[03:50] <johnathan> after booting the last thing i see helios is a long list of [ok]s and the last on the list is "stopping anac(h)ronistic cron, it gets stuck here , ive waited for like hours and all i get is a flashing -
[03:50] <johnathan> x will not start
[03:50] <johnathan> and i cant access any other tty
[03:50] <_helios_> johnathan: Have you tried to make a different CD?
[03:51] <johnathan> im installing from thumb drive, ive reformatted it about 15 times now lol man i just dont get it
[03:51] <_helios_> johnathan: I feel your fustration trust me I've had problems with acer before.
[03:51] <johnathan> ive tried both 64 bit and 32 bit, as it turns out my system is 64, but its the same error either way
[03:52] <johnathan> ya man it just blows lol
[03:52] <johnathan> i got the netbook for my it course and i literally need ubuntu on it lol
[03:52] <pbwizkid> how old is the netbook? could it have harddrive damage
[03:52] <johnathan> its brand new, bought it today
[03:53] <pbwizkid> i have seen this issues on another system of mine with a failing drive
[03:53] <pbwizkid> well then there goes that idea lol
[03:53] <johnathan> ya, it had a perfectly functional copy of windows 7... if you can  concider windows functional
[03:53] <pbwizkid> have you tried a diffrent USB stick? i have also seen that be a issue
[03:54] <_helios_> johnathan: You should try to make a Live CD instead of the USB.
[03:54] <johnathan> i only have the one, i would try that if i could, a curious thing is this happens with any flavor of linux i try
[03:54] <johnathan> helios this netbook has no cd rom
[03:55] <pbwizkid> you could hook up the USB Drive and do a true clean on it by writeing it all out and formatting it and then rebuilding your start up drive
[03:55] <pbwizkid> what are you useing to create you bootable USB?
[03:55] <johnathan> say what now? lol
[03:55] <johnathan> ive tried 2 peices of software
[03:56] <johnathan> both of the recommended
[03:57] <pbwizkid> i forgot the name of the app but it does a true format of any type of drive by filling the drive with all 0's then formatting it so it removes all traces of information
[03:57] <johnathan> its worth a fuckin try honestly
[03:57] <pbwizkid> it would be easier to just use another USB drive or
[03:58] <pbwizkid> makeing it from another system
[03:58] <johnathan> how big is the live install? a couple megs right? i have a usb drive but its only like 1.5 gigs, ill try that i guess
[03:58] <pbwizkid> i belive it has to be at leat a 2gig stick
[03:58] <johnathan> ok then im fucked
[03:58] <johnathan> lol
[03:59] <_helios_> johnathan: you should beable to fit it on 1.5gb
[03:59] <usr13> !language | johnathan
[03:59] <johnathan> sorry
[03:59] <johnathan> ok ill try it
[03:59] <johnathan> afk
[03:59] <pbwizkid> ya its worth a shot
[03:59] <johnathan> ill let you know how it goes
[03:59] <pbwizkid> also when you try the install use a diffrent USB port on the system
[03:59] <_helios_> johnathan: good luck and I'll keep looking this problem up cause its got me curious
[03:59] <pbwizkid> just incase its a voltage issue
[04:00] <chadster1975> johnathan: dont stress. you may not be able to pull this off at this moment, but you will get what you need and get it going eventually
[04:00] <_helios_> Well everyone I am so tired I will ttyl ;)
[04:01] <johnathan> chadster i hope i can, im going to try this out and try to calm down lol thanks for all the help anyone i really appreciate it
[04:03] <johnathan> JUST TO VERIGGY lol 32 bit version will still work on 64 bit computer right?
[04:03] <johnathan> verify*
[04:03] <pbwizkid> yes
[04:03] <johnathan> ok
[04:03] <pbwizkid> 32 bit would be better for a netbook any way
[04:03] <dr_willis> i use 64bit on  all my 64bit systems. ;)
[04:03] <dr_willis> even my netbooks
[04:03] <dr_willis> of course only 1 of my netbooks can do 64bit
[04:04] <pbwizkid> 64 bit is better for a 64bit system and systems with more ram
[04:04] <johnathan> my netbook only has 1 gig
[04:04] <pbwizkid> but 32 bit works as well
[04:04] <pbwizkid> then for sure use 32bit
[04:04] <dr_willis> I set up apt-cacher-ng on my lan - so its easier for me to use 64 bit on everything
[04:04] <dr_willis> i doubt if you will notice much differance either way
[04:05] <johnathan> i am slowly losing all semblance of sanity lol
[04:05] <johnathan> XD
[04:06] <pbwizkid> these little issue happen from time to time but in the end it teaches you lots of cool new thigns
[04:06] <johnathan> i know, i love fixing stuff so i can learn... but i worry that i wont be able to fix it xD
[04:07] <pbwizkid> as long as it still has its magic smoke it can always be fixed lol
[04:07] <johnathan> lmao
[04:08] <devish> or it doesn't give smoke
[04:08] <johnathan> 1 min and 20 secs till the moment of truth >_>
[04:10] <johnathan> ok its making the disk
[04:11] <johnathan> brb
[04:12] <johnathan> back
[04:12] <johnathan> ok 70%
[04:13] <dr_willis> 80..90...80..70... wut?
[04:13] <dr_willis> :)
[04:13] <johnathan> lolol
[04:14] <dr_willis> ive seen just such thingss on progress meters
[04:14] <BroBert> ok guys i tried burnign to the boot repair to the flash and starting it but its telling me to use gparted and change the flags of my partitions
[04:15] <dr_willis> yes.. gparted can be used to change flags.. :) so whats the problem?
[04:15] <BroBert> i have no idea what this means i just want to get ubuntu working and i know theres nothing wrong with the installation i used
[04:15] <johnathan> ok the very vist thing im going to do is try to test it, if that doesnt work then i know its not going to work
[04:15] <dr_willis> run gparted.. and se the flag on the partions as its saying.
[04:15] <dr_willis> what flag is it saying to change anyway?
[04:16] <Physicist> Guys, later I have changed my password editing the image - grub, my Ubuntu don't start anymore. When I type my password and enter, return to initial screen. Any suggest? Or I'll have to re-install my system again?
[04:16] <Physicist> dr_willis: Any suggest to my problem?
[04:17] <dr_willis> Physicist:  can you login to the console  with that user/password?
[04:17] <dr_willis> its not clearn what you mean by editing the image grub...
[04:17] <johnathan> its not working
[04:17] <johnathan> FACEPALM
[04:17] <dr_willis> 'dont start any more...' well its aparently  booting up.. if its asking for a user/password.. do  give DEtAILS as to what you mean...
[04:18] <pbwizkid> what it doing?
[04:18] <johnathan> i got a flashing -
[04:18] <johnathan> for the past 5 minutes or so
[04:19] <pbwizkid> i am assuing you told it to boo from cd
[04:19] <johnathan> yes
[04:19] <pbwizkid> usb i mean'
[04:19] <dr_willis> !nomodeset
[04:19] <johnathan> im going to cry ubottu is that for me?
[04:19] <johnathan> LOL
[04:19] <johnathan> those were supposed to be seperate messages
[04:19] <johnathan> XD
[04:20] <dr_willis> black screen just showing a _ _ _ _     = try the nomodeset option
[04:20] <pbwizkid> to me it sounds like the boot image of you usb drive is not working
[04:21] <Physicist> dr_willis: Grub - press: e, and edit with: initi=/bin/bash. To enter my password, the system will apparently start, but will not start. the screen goes black, the sound is original and reissued as an infinite loop! Does not start.
[04:21] <johnathan> im gonna check this disk for defauls then il try ni mode set
[04:21] <johnathan> errors*
[04:21] <dr_willis> Physicist:  the sound is original? what ssound?
[04:22] <Physicist> dr_willis: Initial sound of the log screen!
[04:22] <chadster1975> Anyone have advice on whether or not to use the encryption option when i install ubuntu? any history of trouble or cause systems to be significantly slower?
[04:23] <dr_willis> if you are using init=bin/bash it shouldent even be loading the Lightdm login manager as far as i know...
[04:23] <dr_willis> Physicist:  try  the 'text' option to see if you can boot to a normal console mode
[04:23] <dr_willis> !text
[04:24] <johnathan> that nomodeset seems to have worked thus far... its just a waiting game now
[04:24] <dr_willis> e in grub ->   quiet splash     ---change to -->   noquiet nosplash verbose text
[04:24] <johnathan> it... didnt... work
[04:24] <johnathan> xD
[04:24] <johnathan> XDD
[04:26] <johnathan> guys is freeBSD guaranteed to atleast install right? if so i could try to build from that... it would be a learning experience lol
[04:26] <dr_willis> err.. freebsd is not linux
[04:26] <johnathan> i know
[04:26] <Physicist> dr_willis: So, when I'll be there what should I do?
[04:26] <dr_willis> and nothing is every guarentted
[04:27] <dr_willis> Physicist:  did it sucessfully boot to the console?
[04:28] <Physicist> dr_willis: To the graphical normally mode doctor!
[04:28] <dr_willis> Huh? the text option should not boot to the graphical login screen.. b ut to the console    login:   display
[04:29] <seyfarth> Anyone seen their unity disappear completely? Screenshot: http://twitter.com/Tony_Lech/status/297921985470664705/photo/1
[04:29] <dr_willis> seyfarth:  turn off the unity pluygin setting in ccsm ;) and it will vanish
[04:30] <seyfarth> dr_willis: ccsm?
[04:30] <dr_willis> !ccsm
[04:30] <epsilonorion> anyone familiar with battery charging issues?  Setup ubuntu on my Samsung Laptop, plugged in charger, and it doesn't charge (though it doesn't seem to be draining).  I have tried to find a solution, but must be missing it
[04:30] <dr_willis> unity can crash/not show if compiz for somepreason dosent load properly
[04:30] <Physicist> Ok, doctor. I'll try.. Thank you!
[04:31] <dr_willis> see if the guest user account works properly. if so.. try making a new user.. ssee if the new test user works properly
[04:32] <Physicist> Yes! I'm in the guest user now!
[04:32] <dr_willis> they really need to work on some fallback mode for when unity goofs up
[04:33] <Ben64> dr_willis: one of many reasons I don't think they should have made it default already
[04:33] <nearst> aticonfig: No supported adapters detected
[04:33] <dr_willis> if you dont push forward... you fall back... ;)
[04:34] <dr_willis> the failsafe-x feature was tried.. then tossed i recall...  not sure what happened to it.
[04:34] <Ben64> just pushes users to xfce, kde, lxde, and gnome-fallback
[04:34] <chadster1975> dr_willis: i like your style.
[04:34] <dr_willis> gnome-fallback is scheduled for  elimination in the future..
[04:34] <Ben64> well i've got it for at least 4 more years :D
[04:34] <johnathan> helios are you still here?
[04:34] <seyfarth> dr_willis: Guessing it has to do with the beta nvidia drivers I just put on there. New user has the same issue
[04:35] <Ben64> seyfarth: can you open a terminal
[04:35] <chadster1975> johnathan: i think he signed off for the night, said he was tired
[04:35] <dr_willis> seyfarth:  that would be a good guess..   the guest user also fails i imagine?
[04:35] <johnathan> ok
[04:35] <seyfarth> Yeah. I can get a terminal. Unity fails for all users
[04:35] <seyfarth> Need to get additional driver screen open somehow
[04:35] <dr_willis> id bet its actually compiz failing. ;)
[04:36] <Ben64> seyfarth: ok, open one up and type "sudo lshw -c video | grep -i driver"
[04:37] <dr_willis> install some light/simple window manager to use  as a tempary fix..   such as jwm or openbox..  if you  want a useble desktop for  trouble shooting
[04:37] <seyfarth> Ben64: two drivers. But then, this is a two driver laptop. One of those weird nvidia/intel hybrids
[04:38] <Ben64> oh.
[04:38] <Ben64> theres your problem. (probably)
[04:38] <seyfarth> Ben64:well it works fine with one. Just need to get back to "additional drivers" app somehow (jockey?)
[04:38] <Ben64> what are you trying to do? get rid of nvidia?
[04:39] <seyfarth> Ben64: Yeah. It's what I just added
[04:39] <Ben64> you might want to look into http://bumblebee-project.org/
[04:39] <seyfarth> Usable system first :)
[04:39] <seyfarth> I'm on irc via smartphone haha
[04:40] <Ben64> then sudo apt-get install icewm
[04:40] <Ben64> will give you a window manager to work with
[04:40] <seyfarth> <3
[04:41] <dr_willis> in 12.10 addational drivers is in a tab of the software sources tool
[04:42] <dr_willis> in 12.04  it would be   jockey-gtk
[04:43] <dr_willis> they should have made that conmand in 12.10 pyll up the siurces tool with tgat tab focused..    ;-)
[04:50] <seyfarth> Blasting the nvidia driver fixed it. Thanks for your help guys <3
[04:51] <nearst> http://www.upubuntu.com/2012/11/how-to-boot-iso-file-from-your-hard.html
[04:51] <dr_willis> nearst: yep. handy feature
[04:53] <nearst> dr_willis, grub-legacy support for this or its feature from grub2?
[04:56] <dr_willis> grub2 only
[04:57] <dr_willis> as far as i know
[04:58] <nearst> im guess that too.
[04:58] <Amelia28> hey guys, how can i fix "booting without full network configuration"  my computer started doing this thing where it takes extra time during startup and then boots without full network configuration, when it finally starts up  It takes a bit and then networking starts working, but it would be great if i can get it back to working as it used to.
[05:00] <dr_willis> wired or wireless Amelia28?
[05:00] <Amelia28> wireless
[05:01] <Castial> hey how come none of the US update servers are working?
[05:01] <dr_willis> any other wireless pcs on thr lan Amelia28 ?
[05:01] <nearst> i think extra time mean like your computer need to get ip from dhcp,
[05:01] <Amelia28> no
[05:02] <Castial> I get errors like "failed to connect"
[05:02] <dr_willis> wonder if it could be interfearance or somthing
[05:02] <Castial> its not my firewall im on the DMZ of it
[05:02] <dr_willis> Castial:  first ive seen it mentioned tonight
[05:03] <Castial> it seems to keep happening every night
[05:03] <Castial> are they doing major maintenance?
[05:03] <nearst> im not sure, im use other repo.
[05:03] <Castial> which?
[05:04] <Castial> Failed to fetch http://archive.getdeb.net/ubuntu/dists/quantal-getdeb/InRelease
[05:04] <nearst> http://askubuntu.com/questions/37753/how-can-i-get-apt-to-use-a-mirror-close-to-me-or-choose-a-faster-mirror
[05:04] <Amelia28> is there a way to uninstall / reinstall the whole network manager?
[05:05] <Castial> nearst: I did that lol
[05:05] <nearst> Amelia28, either ure using manual ip configuration of using alternative for network manager, wicd
[05:05] <Castial> seems the get-deb repo is down
[05:05] <Castial> thats the one I like because I get other random stuff there
[05:05] <xangua> Castial: getdeb is dead
[05:06] <Castial> ah
[05:06] <Castial> sad because thats where I get my emulators
[05:06] <dr_willis> getdeb is dead i thought
[05:06] <nearst> discontinue
[05:06] <Castial> ah thanks for the update
[05:06] <Castial> ill remove it
[05:06] <nearst> :)
[05:06] <xangua> Castial:getdeb only package them for you,  emulators are still out there
[05:06] <Castial> yeah yeah but it was nice to have them packaged
[05:07] <Castial> no biggie
[05:08] <Castial> the wii is only 50 bucks now at walmart
[05:08] <Castial> im gunna go pick one up in the morning
[05:09] <Castial> cheap netflix box that can play mario and zelda
[05:11] <guang_> j #hostapd
[05:11] <Castial> holy cow apt is getting an update I havent seen apt get an update for quite some time I wonder what was broken
[05:12] <nearst> get-deb fan
[05:12] <Castial> same
[05:12] <Castial> they had some great software
[05:13] <nearst> mario and zelda nes now able to play on web
[05:13] <Castial> this is true
[05:13] <Cavemanross> Is anyone available to help with a wireless adapter question?
[05:13] <Castial> sure
[05:13] <Castial> shoot
[05:14] <Cavemanross> I just got ubuntu 12.10 for my class and added gnome.  In the terminal my wireless connection is fine but in the gnome interface i cant connect
[05:14] <Castial> thats not the adapter-s fault, thats gnome shell, gnome shell is crap
[05:15] <Cavemanross> oh my professor suggested it
[05:15] <Castial> try cinnamon or unity
[05:15] <Castial> I like them both
[05:15] <justmmt> nice morning :)
[05:15] <dr_willis> http://alternativeto.net/software/getdeb/
[05:15] <Castial> mate for gnome2, but atm gnome shell is kinda buggy
[05:15] <Cavemanross> lame
[05:16] <Castial> well with the backlash they stopped caring
[05:16] <justmmt> I have firefoxBrowser, but I need one more. is it a good idea to install 'xxxterm' !!?
[05:16] <dr_willis> gnome shell should be using the same network manager tools in ubuntu
[05:16] <Cavemanross> Ya for some reason I couldn't get connected in the gnome shell.  Not even when I wired into my router.
[05:17] <Castial> ive seen it dr_willis where it works in Unity but not in Gnome-shell
[05:17] <dr_willis> on my system my wireless connects b3for i even login
[05:17] <Castial> like gnome shell just doesnt want to connect when installed next to unity
[05:17] <justmmt> just yes or no. help, help!!?
[05:18] <dr_willis> justmmt:  with?)
[05:18] <Castial> ive never heard of xxxterm
[05:18] <dr_willis> !info xxxterm
[05:18] <dr_willis> so minimal its most lukely useless
[05:18] <Castial> I dont see how firefox isnt enough
[05:18] <justmmt> which webBrowser is good to install, other than firefox!!?
[05:19] <dr_willis> ff. chrome. opera.
[05:19] <Castial> some people like chrome or chromium but I prefer firefox always have always will unless they do something really stupid and break everything
[05:19] <nearst> for full flash, im use chrome
[05:19] <Castial> flash works fine for me here
[05:19] <Castial> in firefox
[05:20] <nearst> afaik, ubuntu now configure flash auto
[05:20] <Castial> they use the open source one
[05:20] <Castial> you can choose to install the one from adobe
[05:20] <dr_willis> huh? i dont think so
[05:20] <dr_willis> you install flash same as you alw%ys have
[05:20] <Castial> did they change it? I didn't notice the difference
[05:21] <Castial> thought so
[05:21] <dr_willis> google chrom comes with its own flash
[05:21] <Castial> I love how adobe were all like "we wont support Linux with flash anymore" 2 revisions later
[05:22] <justmmt> yea, I need flash to work!!
[05:22] <nearst> lol
[05:22] <Castial> Justasic: works fine here
[05:22] <Castial> you must not have it installed
[05:22] <dr_willis> so you use ff or chrom then ;-)
[05:23] <nearst> try flashplugin-installer then
[05:23] <dr_willis> install them all.  ff.  chrome. and chromium
[05:23] <Castial> we may be under 8% market share but we are a consistant bunch, much more consistant than Mac users lol
[05:24] <Castial> ignoring us is futile, ask Samsung about all the bad press lmao
[05:24] <Nils_> Hey
[05:24] <Castial> howdie
[05:24] <Nils_> I found a solution and have a question
[05:24] <Nils_> my problem was that certain apps like steam wouldn't start
[05:24] <justmmt> dr_willis, I think I'll install chrome.
[05:25] <Nils_> my solution was to delete all previous drivers
[05:25] <dr_willis> i install all 3
[05:25] <Nils_> I have a thinkpad t500
[05:25] <Castial> Nils_: amd or nvidia card?
[05:25] <Nils_> Should I keept it this way?
[05:25] <justmmt> dr_willis, which !?
[05:25] <Nils_> amd radeon 3650
[05:25] <Nils_> and intel
[05:25] <Castial> idk amd sucks
[05:25] <Nils_> it's a hybrid situation
[05:25] <Castial> I refuse to use their rubbish
[05:25] <dr_willis> justmmt:  ff. chrome and chromium
[05:26] <Castial> my macbook which is running mint 14.1 is hybrid nvidia and intel and it works fine
[05:26] <Nils_> so the propieritary driver has caused trouble so far
[05:26] <Nils_> what should I do
[05:26] <Castial> use the newest 310 driver
[05:26] <justmmt> dr_willis, is there a big difference between chrome and chromium!?
[05:26] <Castial> er for amd idk
[05:26] <Castial> hmmm
[05:26] <Sosumi> look
[05:26] <dr_willis> flash is the main diff.
[05:26] <Castial> hold on ill research it
[05:27] <nearst> nils-, im already keep try patching, making package since last night. able to install but kmod not load the module
[05:27] <Nils_> tried installing the newest one but it failed
[05:27] <Sosumi> I don't know if someone else had this issue with matlab
[05:27] <Castial> http://xpressrazor.wordpress.com/2013/01/13/how-to-setup-amdintel-hybrid-graphics-cards-in-linux-ubuntu/
[05:27] <Nils_> when I install the additional driver it causes trouble
[05:27] <nearst>  aticonfig: No supported adapters detected
[05:28] <Sosumi> but when using it, like for ex doing "bench" it causes my pc to restart
[05:28] <Castial> this is why I like nvidia, it works with minimul hassle
[05:28] <Sosumi> all turns black and that's it
[05:28] <dr_willis> nvidia optimus is also a pain
[05:28] <nearst> Castial, that is for hd 5x00 series, 2x00-4x00 known as legacy now
[05:29] <Sosumi> anyone has an idea of what may be causing the problem?
[05:29] <justmmt> dr_willis, ok,
[05:29] <Sosumi> also, it's matlab r2012b
[05:29] <justmmt> thanks for all :)
[05:29] <dr_willis> Sosumi:  mpressive a user ran app can restart the pc
[05:30] <Castial> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MATLAB
[05:30] <Sosumi> indeed
[05:30] <GProg> hi
[05:30] <dr_willis> or its some hardware crashing
[05:30] <GProg> i need some help. my fan is blowing like crazy when idle and im running one tab of firefox
[05:30] <Castial> Sosumi: Ubuntu 12.04 and up are not supported OSes
[05:31] <GProg> my laptop is a dell inspirion n4110
[05:31] <Castial> of matlab
[05:31] <Castial> wait for the march update or go back to using Ubuntu 11.10
[05:31] <Sosumi> well, I also tested with fedora 18
[05:31] <Castial> known bug
[05:31] <Sosumi> and it did the same thing
[05:31] <Castial> right
[05:32] <GProg> i want to roolback on my updates. this happened when i updated yesterday
[05:32] <justmmt> dr_willis, oh no, I think Ive not chrome in my repository, just chromium. it's the one which doesn't support flash isn't it!?
[05:32] <Castial> its a known kernel bug
[05:32] <GProg> *rollback
[05:32] <Castial> wait til march for the update, matlab isnt FOSS software so we only get updates when they are promised to us
[05:32] <nearst> http://saravananthirumuruganathan.wordpress.com/2012/12/02/fixing-matlab-errors-in-ubuntu-12-10/
[05:33] <Castial> until then use a "supported operating system"
[05:33] <Castial> that works too
[05:33] <GProg> anyone?
[05:33] <Sosumi> unfortunatelly that seems so
[05:33] <GProg> bump
[05:33] <Castial> I just know for a few applications like matlab I am currently booting my other netbook to 11.10 til march
[05:33] <Tinybird> GProg, try "top" to see which process is running?
[05:33] <GProg> ok
[05:33] <Castial> GProg: saying "bump" wont get you any help
[05:34] <GProg> how do i know what's taking up cpu? Im a linux noob
[05:35] <Castial> system monitor
[05:35] <Castial> and afaik (I could be wrong) I dont believe there is a way to rollback updates
[05:35] <GProg> found the issue
[05:35] <GProg>  1297 root      20   0 69660 3092 2292 R  97.7  0.1  11:49.48 cupsd
[05:35] <GProg>  6321 root      39  19  380m 281m 7332 D  56.2  4.8   0:43.46 update-apt-xapi
[05:36] <GProg> cupsd?
[05:36] <Castial> cups is printer
[05:36] <GProg> its taking 97 percent of my cpu
[05:36] <dr_willis> thats weird
[05:36] <Castial> sudo kill 1297
[05:36] <Castial> sudo kill 6321
[05:36] <GProg> ok
[05:36] <nearst> service cups stop
[05:36] <Tinybird> GProg, you may kill that process to see what will happen
[05:37] <GProg> will do
[05:37] <Castial> sudo service cups stop
[05:37] <dr_willis> cups is noramally real stable
[05:37] <Castial> yeah in the recent years its been a dream
[05:38] <Castial> I hooked my kodak AIO to my both USB and Wifi and it works without a single configuration
[05:38] <Castial> plug and go
[05:38] <pbajp> Hi, I ran an update and now i've got an error from dpkg. You'll note that the required version and the installed version are the same except for the ~ Message:
[05:38] <pbajp> dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of initramfs-tools:
[05:38] <pbajp>  initramfs-tools depends on initramfs-tools-bin (<< 0.99ubuntu13.1~); however:
[05:38] <pbajp>   Version of initramfs-tools-bin on system is 0.99ubuntu13.1.
[05:39] <GProg> hmmmm, they are not closing and my fan is still running like crazy
[05:39] <pbajp> any ideas? i've cleared my dpkg cache and updated, etc.
[05:39] <pbajp> afraid to reboot
[05:39] <uplinx> howdy, any feedback on getting the latency of microphone input playback to a level that is not a total mindfuck?
[05:39] <nearst> sudo apt-get install --fix-missing
[05:39] <Castial> pbajp: wow just backup and reinstall lol
[05:39] <GProg> its still running
[05:39] <Castial> how did you mess up your boot table it would be faster to reinstall then it would to fix it
[05:39] <GProg> cannot kill it
[05:40] <Tinybird> GProg, sudo kill -9 1297
[05:40] <Castial> sorry forgot the -9
[05:40] <dr_willis> pbajp:  tried a sudo apt-get dist-upgrade recently?
[05:40] <pbajp> Castial: heh, i'd rather edit /var/lib/dpkg/status, but humm
[05:40] <Castial> yeah dist-upgrade breaks a lot
[05:41] <Castial> it was easier for me to simply reinstall
[05:41] <dr_willis> thats weird.. it shouldent break anything
[05:41] <GProg> holy crap, its still running
[05:41] <pbajp> i didn't do anything to the boot, it just updated initramfs tools
[05:41] <pbajp> from 13 to 13.1
[05:41] <Castial> dr_willis: for me it broke the entire init too
[05:41] <GProg> it goes to 6638 and so on
[05:41] <GProg> is cupsd a virus?
[05:41] <Castial> I simply have /home on another drive so it was easier to format / and install 12.10.1
[05:42] <GProg> no matter how many times i kill it it goes to another line
[05:42] <hatake> amd or intel, plz comment ?
[05:42] <pbajp> dr_willis: nope. should I?
[05:42] <Castial> GProg: yes XD no its the printer service
[05:42] <pbajp> i'm at 12.10
[05:42] <dr_willis> !cups  gpog
[05:42] <Castial> linux dont get viruses foo
[05:42] <nearst> only rootkit
[05:42] <dr_willis> pbajp:  try it and see what it suggests
[05:42] <GProg> well i have an intel
[05:42] <fraa_lio> Has there never been a proper virus that affects Linux systems?
[05:42] <dr_willis> hatake:  get what your budget can affrd
[05:42] <GProg> how do i end this printer service? its still going, lol
[05:43] <cfhowlett> GProg, kill -9
[05:43] <Castial> well I gotta reboot after 121 updates
[05:43] <Tinybird> GProg, tha's weird. I am not familiar with these cupsd thing
[05:43] <pbajp> i'm pretty sure that's not gonna fix this, btw i've been using linux since 96. this is the first time i've had to ask for help on irc...
[05:43] <pbajp> but thanks anyway!
[05:43] <dr_willis> pbajp:  see what it suggests.. it may be a dead end anyway
[05:43] <dr_willis> the verssion #s seem weird..
[05:43] <pbajp> yah, still
[05:43] <pbajp> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[05:43] <pbajp>  initramfs-tools : Depends: initramfs-tools-bin (< 0.99ubuntu13.1~) but 0.99ubuntu13.1 is installed
[05:43] <pbajp> E: Unmet dependencies. Try using -f.
[05:43] <GProg>  wow, wtf is going on
[05:43] <pbajp> and i've done -f
[05:44] <other> aa
[05:44] <other> aaa
[05:44] <nearst> http://www.debuntu.org/how-to-managing-services-with-update-rc-d/
[05:44] <pbajp> yeah...
[05:44] <zykotick9> fraa_lio: sorta.  you might want to see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux_malware#Viruses_and_trojan_horses
[05:45] <nearst> try scan with rkhunter or chkrootkit
[05:45] <dr_willis> pbajp:   could be some wwirdness or bug in some packages that got made.
[05:45] <GProg> yeah
[05:45] <dr_willis> I dont recall ever seeing a ~ in a version # befor
[05:45] <GProg> i updated this yesterday, now look what happened
[05:47] <Castial> "wah I updated my free OS that I paid nothing for, with no implied warranty and something broke and instead of googling and doing what others have posted im going to continue to whine and moan"
[05:47] <pbajp> dr_willis: et al. could you send me what this outputs? I'm curious what your initramfs-tools is saying it requires...
[05:47] <pbajp> grep initramfs-tools-bin /var/lib/dpkg/status | grep Depends
[05:47] <dr_willis> im on my cell phone. ;)
[05:47] <Castial> dude its like legos sometimes things come apart and ya gotta put them back together
[05:47]  * cfhowlett and THEN I'm going to MSoft!  Fedora!  Mint! ...
[05:47] <GProg> im not whining, just want my ubuntu to go back to normal :)
[05:48] <cfhowlett> GProg,  have you run a print job recently?
[05:48] <GProg> nope
[05:48] <Castial> cfhowlett: better yet I love when mac fanboys come in here complaining about everything
[05:48] <GProg> its a bug
[05:49] <Castial> no its not because I just printed something
[05:49] <Castial> try removing cups
[05:49] <Castial> reboot
[05:49] <Castial> reinstall cups
[05:49] <GProg> remove cupsd? how
[05:49] <Castial> ubuntu software center
[05:49] <dr_willis> just a reboot may be easier to  try firtst
[05:49] <Castial> right
[05:50] <dr_willis> cups is normally a very solid bit of code...
[05:50] <GProg> going to ubuntu software
[05:50] <dr_willis> could be its got confused about somthing or somthign else crashed and   got cups all confused
[05:50] <Castial> dr_willis: remember back in 03-04 holy f--- it didnt used to be
[05:51] <GProg> i hope my laptop wont over heat
[05:51] <GProg> its doing 71 c
[05:51] <dr_willis> my simple HP laserjet-5l has worked great in linux for decades. ;)
[05:51] <CarlFK> http://www.teamviewer.com/en/download/linux.aspx   it has a .deb, wondering if there is a canonical or community repo I can apt-get from?
[05:51] <GProg> when you say reboot. do you mean reinstall ubuntu?
[05:51] <cfhowlett> CarlFK, nope.
[05:51] <dr_willis> GProg: .. i mean reboot the pc....
[05:52] <GProg> oh
[05:52] <CarlFK> cfhowlett: thanks.
[05:52] <dr_willis> oor power off... let it cool a bit.. then power back on
[05:53] <GProg> ok, removing
[05:53] <GProg> now a reboot
[05:53] <nearst> tools/modprobe.c:550: print_action: Assertion `kmod_module_get_initstate(m) == KMOD_MODULE_BUILTIN'
[05:53] <dr_willis> i suggested just rebooting first......
[05:53] <GProg> tried it^
[05:53] <GProg> :)
[05:53] <GProg> brb
[05:55] <MACscr> hmm, so im trying to use a program called filebot. i have it installed on a system, but im going to be using its command line options for scripting. When i run the app, im getting: ** (process:22546): WARNING **: Command line `dbus-launch --autolaunch=5c686fcd4b7fc19b5fd84dfc00000009 --binary-syntax --close-stderr' exited with non-zero exit status 1: Autolaunch error: X11 initialization failed.\n
[05:55] <MACscr> repeated multiple times. Is there a setting i might be missing in ubuntu or is it just the app requiring x11?
[05:56] <cfhowlett> MACscr, filebot is not an ubuntu package and is not in the repositories.  Suggest you go to the package maintainer for support
[05:56] <nearst> http://www.ubuntuupdates.org/package/getdeb_apps/quantal/apps/getdeb/filebot
[05:57] <bitplane> Hi. Dumb question here which Google couldn't answer: What's the quickest way and easiest way to make an encrypted dir?
[05:57] <GProg> lol, cupsd is still there
[05:57] <cfhowlett> bitplane, ecryptfs
[05:58] <bitplane> hmm I don't think the FS method is good for me. I want the files backed up via dropbox
[05:58] <bitplane> it's a few text files, will maybe one day be 1mb
[05:58] <dr_willis> macbr:  almost looks like itst rying to start up  X11 itself.. which is weird
[05:58] <bitplane> password protected like encryptfs, but backed up to dropbox and other cloud storage
[05:58] <MACscr> dr_willis: i know, im not sure what my options are
[05:59] <GProg> should i reinstall ubuntu?
[05:59] <pbajp> GProg: cupsd should be there, it's what lets you print
[05:59] <dr_willis> MACscr:  try running it from a x terminal
[05:59] <bitplane> does file-roller and archive mounter do password protected archives?
[05:59] <nearst> GProg, to disable cups http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1701098
[05:59] <pbajp> are you trying to get rid of it?
[05:59] <MACscr> dr_willis: its a headless system =/
[05:59] <dr_willis> GProg:  so its still there.. but is it sucking down the cpi?
[05:59] <dr_willis> MACscr:  try it in a vnc session
[05:59] <GProg> yes
[06:00] <cfhowlett> GProg, I'd say no.  Cupsd is a service.  you should be able to default to NOT start on launch ...
[06:00] <MACscr> dr_willis: not really going to help since this is something that is going to run in an automated fashion from another app
[06:00] <riqdiiz> Hi is it possible to login to a server without a username or password?
[06:00] <cfhowlett> bitplane, http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/linux-how-to-encrypt-and-decrypt-files-with-a-password.html
[06:00] <dr_willis> MACscr:  that will let you know if it needs a X session...
[06:00] <GProg> where can i make this thing not luanch?
[06:00] <bitplane> thanks :(
[06:00] <GProg> *launch
[06:00] <bitplane> :)
[06:00] <dr_willis> MACscr:  ive no  idea what that app is doing. ;)
[06:01] <nearst> cups file on /etc/init/cups afaik, GProg refer to url i give u
[06:01] <cfhowlett> GProg, on 12.10?  system settings > startup IIRC
[06:01] <dr_willis> riqdiiz:  using what service?  or you  mean automateeed login over ssh?
[06:01] <MACscr> dr_willis: you drinking tonight? your tab autocomplete for names is pretty bad tonight =P
[06:02] <GProg> im on 12.10. I feel so noobish here. I switched to linux because i had enough of windows 7
[06:02] <dr_willis> looks like they have been spot on to me...
[06:04] <dr_willis> if theres a cups bug that just came out thats causing it to suck down 100% cpu. i imagine its going to  get noticed and worked on/fixed very quickly.. ;)
[06:04] <riqdiiz> dr_willis:automated over dialup .
[06:04]  * cfhowlett dailup?
[06:04] <zykotick9> riqdiiz: i'm not sure what you mean (kinda scared to ask actually).  but you can use ssh+keys to login remotely without requiring inputting username and password (username is obviously still used).
[06:05] <nearst> why not use teamviewer instead :D
[06:05] <dr_willis> dialup? ;) like a BBS systm?
[06:06] <dr_willis> or the old days of dialup isp serivice.
[06:06] <dr_willis> Good Old Netzero. ;)
[06:06] <riqdiiz> Dialup isp service
[06:07] <dr_willis> theres guides on making your own personal dialup isp type system.  saw them ages ago on tldp.org
[06:07] <dr_willis> not seen anyone actually  do it in years
[06:08] <nearst> pstn + PABX world
[06:10] <yva> is there a reason I cannot the ownership of a directory I own on a server?
[06:10] <krnlklink> why is empathy so buggered in 12.10?
[06:12] <dr_willis> yva: rephrase that perhaps? its not clear
[06:13] <yva> dr_willis, oups sorry. I'd like to change the ownership of a directory say test drwxrwxr--  4 yva yva    4096 2013-02-03 06:05 but when I do chown it says operation not permitted, why?
[06:13] <dydzEz2_> does ubuntu make a recovery partition
[06:14] <dr_willis> yva you mean permissions? your owner is yva
[06:14] <krnlklink> is there an updated version of empathy that will allow me to store my IRC password properly?
[06:14] <yva> yes, and I'd like to "give" the file to another user chown test/ daniel
[06:15] <dr_willis> im not sure users can unown stuff that way.
[06:15] <nyRednek> yva, you'd actually chown -R daniel test
[06:15] <nyRednek> dr_willis, yeah, you can
[06:16] <dr_willis> cant say ive ever tried to do it.    ;-)
[06:16] <dr_willis> or newded to
[06:16] <bittu> question... i'm using ./configure with "export CFLAGS="xyz" is it possible instead of setting FLAGS environment variable to pass it in as a command line parameter to configure?
[06:17] <dr_willis> you can do   cflags=foo  ./configure
[06:17] <nyRednek> bittu, it really depends on the way the developer wrote the ./configure script
[06:18] <bittu> nyRednek, i thought so, thanks
[06:18] <yva> nyRednek,  dr_willis, nope same problem, I cannot
[06:18] <dr_willis> yea.. exporting world be best
[06:18] <dr_willis> yva: what kind of server is this.  is this a samba share?
[06:19] <yva> nope, a ubuntu, latest lts
[06:19] <dr_willis> err samba is a service on ubuntu
[06:19] <dr_willis> ;-)
[06:20] <dr_willis> so you are just sshing into the server?
[06:20] <nyRednek> dr_willis, i even have a proprietary router that has CIFS in its code
[06:21] <theundertaker> hello
[06:22] <cfhowlett> theundertaker, greetings
[06:22] <GProg> SUCCESS!!!
[06:22] <theundertaker> greetings
[06:23] <GProg> Thanks everyone
[06:23] <brady2600> hey guys, im doing rmdir /var/run in the bash prompt at startup, but it says Not a directory, however ive verified that it is there.. how can i get ti
[06:23] <GProg> my laptop runs normally now
[06:24] <zykotick9> brady2600: i think /var/run is a link to /run - why would you want to remove it?
[06:24] <brady2600> hey guys im trying to rmdir /var/run  in the prompt before startup however it results in Not a directory, however ive checked and i know the folder exists.
[06:25] <brady2600> i want to remove it because ive been given instructions in a tutorial to do so
[06:25] <dr_willis> brady2600:  a tutorial to do what
[06:26] <zykotick9> brady2600: and if you read in a howto to jump off a bridge would you do that as well?  this is a BAD idea.
[06:26] <rigel> hi, i am having trouble getting debug info/logs from bluez
[06:26] <brady2600> ive purged lightdm , the network manager, the display manager,  and supposedly this folder needs to be deleted, so i can reinstall all that stuff, so my computer stops "booting without networking"
[06:27] <GProg> well, now what do i do?
[06:27] <GProg> ask questions about comp. science.
[06:27] <GProg> anyone here computer scientist?
[06:27] <cfhowlett> !ot|GProg,
[06:28] <brady2600> the purpose of the tutorial was to get networking to stop acting crazy
[06:28] <GProg> its involving on ubuntu. OS questions etc..
[06:29] <brady2600> careful gprog, the room is a nazi hammer if you don't stay on topic. it's weird
[06:29] <GProg> ok
[06:29] <GProg> I'll take that advice.
[06:29] <aeon-ltd> brady2600: if the channel weren't so full and busy at times, it would matter less
[06:29] <GProg> anyways, how do i fix this cupsd? do i need it in the future?
[06:30] <bobafett> anyone have a good understanding of proxy servers and x-forwarded-for ?
[06:30] <brady2600> im only responding because you said that to me.. but ive never seen the room here scrolling so fast to justify such behavior
[06:30] <cfhowlett> bobafett, #ubuntu-server  question maybe???
[06:30] <bobafett> squid, if anything
[06:31] <GProg> yeah, its a support server.
[06:31] <GProg> quit: later
[06:31] <GProg> quit/see ya
[06:31] <GProg> well thanks everyone(click the x button).
[06:32] <Ben64> brady2600: thats the point
[06:33] <brady2600> no what im saying, is i don't find it believable.
[06:34] <brady2600> unnecessarily restrictive and conflict creating for a problem that does not exist, its a human compatibility fail.
[06:34] <Ben64> the problem doesn't exist because of the rules
[06:35] <Gumby> ^^
[06:35] <brady2600> like i said.. I don't find that contention realistic.
[06:35] <JPeterson> can i change the function for the middle button with the right button?
[06:35] <JPeterson> in the terminal
[06:35] <brady2600> but back to my problem
[06:35] <Gumby> if you had 20 users in here all talking about different subjects it would be hard to get questions answered.  now think about it, there are 1631 users in here.  make sense now?
[06:36] <OerHeks> brady2600, stop that ranting, Ubuntu 11.10 has migrated away from /var/run, /var/lock and /dev/shm and now uses /run, /run/lock and /run/shm instead (respectively).
[06:36] <thomasd> hello all
[06:36] <cfhowlett> thomasd, greetings
[06:36] <brady2600> i have not ranted. I have simply responded for what was said at me
[06:36] <thomasd> thanks cfhowlett
[06:36] <thomasd> I'm trying to start a script on boot, but I'm obviously doing it wrong can someone explain me why "update-rc.d astransk default"  returns "astransk start runlevel arguments (none) do not match LSB Default-Start values (2 3 4 5)". My /etc/init.d/astransk file is here : http://pastebin.com/4VFxrJYi
[06:36] <JPeterson> ah it's `xmodmap -e "pointer = 1 3 2"`
[06:36] <thomasd> I thought I would need to create the rc?.d links manually, so I did, but the update-rc.d doesn't work any better ...
[06:38] <Ben64> !upstart | thomasd maybe this will help?
[06:38] <brady2600> ok yes, but i still want to delete the folder, i have backed it up so i can manually replace it from another computer if needed.
[06:38] <Ben64> brady2600: why would you need to delete /run
[06:40] <brady2600> ls
[06:42] <OerHeks> Ben64, stanger than that >rmdir /var/run
[06:42] <OerHeks> *stranger
[06:42] <Ben64> OerHeks: either way it's weird
[06:43] <dr_willis> the /run stuff is a specual dynamic directory like /proc i thought
[06:43] <zykotick9> Ben64: OerHeks neither "strang" nor "weird" quite describe it...
[06:44] <Cub> strang?
[06:44] <kdns> Hi All. Using kubuntu 12.04. Muon has become unresponsive during configuring a new kernel. Can someone please advise the most graceful recovery from this? Kill it and sudo dpkg -configure -a ?
[06:44] <zykotick9> Cub: s/strang/strange/ sorry
[06:44] <Ben64> zykotick9: impossible?
[06:45] <zykotick9> Ben64: oh, if you want to break your system - i'd think it's possible.
[06:45] <Ben64> oh well, time to try it in a vm
[06:46] <yva> I have weird issues with file permissions d????????? ? ? ? ?                ? .
[06:46] <yva> d????????? ? ? ? ?                ? ..
[06:46] <yva> -????????? ? ? ? ?                ? 23551209-2013-02-03-07-16-08.775.json
[06:46] <yva> any ideas where this would be coming from?
[06:46] <cfhowlett> kdns, reboot with an earlier kernel should get you back up
[06:47] <Ben64> yva: could you pastebin "ls -ln" in the directory you're talking about?
[06:47] <dr_willis> http://askubuntu.com/questions/169495/what-are-run-lock-and-run-shm-used-for
[06:47] <kdns> cfhowlett I'm still up now, I am on this box, it's not that it is not booting, just what I said. If I alt+tab, I can see it sitting there, not moving.
[06:48] <cfhowlett> kdns, OK
[06:48] <yva> Ben64, http://pastebin.com/4iaqR6UU
[06:48] <yva> it's really weird
[06:49] <yva> and I don't even seem to be able to get the file back
[06:49] <dr_willis> yva: mght be time for a fsck on that fs.
[06:49] <Ben64> is it a local drive?
[06:49] <yva> It's a server
[06:49] <rigel> so i connected successfully to a bt device that was giving me problems, using hidd
[06:49] <yva> I was try to move some files around
[06:49] <rigel> and then i powered it down
[06:49] <yva> and did a test on this file first
[06:50] <rigel> and when it came back up it wouldnt reconnect
[06:50] <Ben64> what do you mean server? its a network share?
[06:50] <rigel> it wont even find the device anymore
[06:50] <rigel> im not sure what hidd would have changed
[06:50] <rigel> i did a find /etc -mtime -1 and nothing useful comes up
[06:51] <yva> Ben24 an amazon ebs
[06:51] <Ben64> come on, give more information
[06:52] <yva> not sure what else I can tell you
[06:53] <Ben64> how are you accessing it? is it local to where you have the shell running or is it over the network? what type of drive is it? where is it mounted? what filesystem? what device?
[06:55] <kingbeast> alright, single quadro 6000, dual monitors does nothing but mirror the screen, will not extend the screen, any thoughts?
[06:56] <dr_willis> quadro? that a nvidia chipset?
[06:56] <kingbeast> dr_willis, yes
[06:56] <yva> Ben64, it is mounted as sda
[06:56] <kepler> proprietary drivers, or nouveau?
[06:57] <dr_willis> installed the nvidia drivets?
[06:57] <dr_willis> drivers
[06:57] <kdns> kingbeast: what happens when you try to extend the screen
[06:57] <yva> Ben64, ext4
[06:57] <kingbeast> kdns, defaults back to mirror right after I apply
[06:59] <kepler> !nvidia
[06:59] <kingbeast> think it could be the combined res is too high? I have two 30" dells on it
[06:59] <kepler> 2560x1440x2?
[07:00] <kingbeast> 2560x1600
[07:00] <kingbeast> x2
[07:00] <kepler> does it work with another OS, or haven't tried?
[07:00] <kingbeast> I only use Ubuntu
[07:00] <kingbeast> just upgraded cards though
[07:00] <kepler> the old one worked?
[07:01] <kingbeast> yeah
[07:01] <fego> I only use Ubuntu/2
[07:01] <kepler> was it a quadro too?
[07:01] <kingbeast> but the old card was dual link dvi x2, this one is displayport
[07:02] <badday_> kingbeast: are u talking about something like Xinerama?
[07:02] <kdns> kingbeast: did you preview? Did it work?
[07:02] <kdns> no, it's randr these days
[07:02] <kingbeast> I'll figure it out
[07:03] <kingbeast> probably have to just write my own xorg file
[07:03] <kdns> no
[07:04] <kingbeast> kdns, why no
[07:05] <kdns> because usually it's not needed these days, so statistically speaking, you probably don't need to at all.
[07:05] <kingbeast> well I give it a few more attempts in different ways, just seeing if anyone else has had a problem with it
[07:06] <Ben64> using nvidia-settings to do it?
[07:07] <kepler> it wouldn't reactivate nouveau drivers if switching cards, would it?
[07:07] <kingbeast> Ben64, I have tried both
[07:08] <yva> is there a limit in the number of directories one can have in a directory?
[07:08] <Ben64> kingbeast: how about trying the 310 drivers?
[07:08] <kingbeast> kepler, nah it's using the right driver
[07:08] <aeon-ltd> yva: yes
[07:08] <yva> aeon-ltd, any idea how many is a limit?
[07:08] <aeon-ltd> yva: though i can't recall the number
[07:09] <kingbeast> thanks guys I'll figure it out and post the fix in the forums
[07:09] <patrick__> I am new to development, and I am trying to boot up Ubuntu with testdrive for the first time. When I do, Ubuntu starts to boot, but then prints out the error message "BUG soft lockup..." Has anyone seen this before?
[07:10] <badday_> kingbeast: I had running 3 monitors with more than full hd on 2 nvidia cards with the nvidia drivers, so this should not be any problem
[07:10] <bravis> 1
[07:11] <aeon-ltd> yva: quick googling says it's 64000, though i'm searching more to confirm
[07:11] <cfhowlett> patrick__, lots of search hits on ubuntu + bug + soft + lockup
[07:12] <kingbeast> badday_, I think it's a resolution restriction or something. I'll try different monitors and if it works I know what it is then
[07:12] <kepler> display port should be able to handle it
[07:12] <kepler> you have those dongle things to connect through?
[07:12] <jarray52> Is it possible to use a Displaylink monitor(USB monitor) as a third monitor using Ubuntu 12.04 LTS? Some posts online suggest that it must be set as a separate screen in xorg.conf. Any suggestions?
[07:12] <badday_> kingbeast: I am not sure, I was actually using 2048x<something> on DVI, so I guess yours should not be an issue
[07:14] <patrick__> cfhowlett: Thanks. I had looked quickly on the net and didn't see any quick fixes. I was hoping someone here might have recognized it as a known problem.
[07:14] <kingbeast> badday_, if you combine the two I am trying to run it's 5120x1600. that's a huge resolution
[07:15] <cfhowlett> patrick__, check bug reports.  If your particular configuration/fail is not listed, you might consider filing a new bug
[07:15] <cfhowlett> !bug|patrick__,
[07:15] <kepler> i run 5760x1200 w/ 3 monitors/2 cards via dvi, so unless it is a DP issue, i dont think there is a resolution problem
[07:15] <badday_> kingbeast: well, I was running 2 on a simple Nvidia card, too, almost the same resolution as u, so I guess it should work
[07:16] <kingbeast> could just be the card, idk I'll figure it out. thanks guys I'm headed to bed
[07:16] <kepler> night, gl!
[07:16] <yva> aeon-ltd, seems to be 64 indeed
[07:16] <yva> would that be true for files too?
[07:18] <patrick__> cfhowlett: Thanks. I see there is a bug listed that looks like it might be similar for Ubuntu 12.04. It looks like there might be a fix available already. I'm looking into it.
[07:18] <linda666> hi, my virtualbox cannot connect to network. I have the same problem with all my vms which shows something wrong from my host side. cant figure out whats the problem. my ubuntu is 12.04, i have the vbox 4.2.6 installed from virtualbox.org
[07:19] <kdns> ugh displayport...why........
[07:19] <linda666> i have to add, settings for my vms are all bridged network, and they used to work fine, suddenly few days ago they started having problems...
[07:19] <Ben64> kdns: because hdmi costs too much
[07:20] <sunsetlover> hey there, i have some questions about wireless in ubuntu. any one can help me
[07:20] <fedor> hi everyone. I am using chrome on my u12-04 and some extensions do not work particularly in Ubunty in w8 they work though. I do not know what is the reason for that. What i want to know is if anyone who uses ad blocker extension for u12-04 has (or had) issues with it? Can i make it work as it works in win-8 and if yes, how? thanx in advance
[07:20] <aeon-ltd> yva: i'd assume so
[07:21] <badday_> !ask | sunsetlover
[07:21] <RigidWig> Can someone help me figure out why 1444 ( http://i.imgur.com/KqexRM3.png ) is not listenning to a remote telnet?
[07:21] <linda666> thats funny.. i just changed it to NAT it works... so why you think bridged does not work?
[07:21] <sunsetlover> ok thank you
[07:22] <RigidWig> not responding that is
[07:23] <aeon-ltd> yva: according to wikipedia 4 billion is the limit of ext4
[07:23] <kdns> Ben64: How's that?
[07:23] <wsky> ok, which groups in ubuntu 12.10 should i belong to be able to mount removable storage devices in kde?
[07:23] <yva> aeon-ltd, yes, I was checking but I had more file that 64k in the directory
[07:23] <wsky> i belong to plugdev, what else?
[07:23] <aeon-ltd> yva: you'd run out of hdd space before you hit that if it's true
[07:23] <yva> aeon-ltd, any idea how to be sure?
[07:24] <wsky> i'm running kde with startx with xinitrc containing exec ck-launch-session dbus-launch startkde
[07:24] <yva> the question is also if it's files or directories
[07:25] <aeon-ltd> yva: no idea on that, besides testing it (though that's out of the question really)
[07:25] <yva> aeon-ltd, http://www.whatastruggle.com/maximum-number-of-sub-directories-in-ext4
[07:26] <RigidWig> nvm silly aws setting
[07:26] <genoobie> hey all
[07:26] <genoobie> very old hardware here.
[07:26] <aeon-ltd> yva: also interesting http://serverfault.com/questions/104986/what-is-the-maximum-number-of-files-a-file-system-can-contain
[07:26] <genoobie> just wondering if I can run minecraft for my kids
[07:26] <genoobie> PIII 800MHz, 284M
[07:26] <genoobie> 384MB I mean
[07:27] <phunyguy_tab> eeeek
[07:27] <genoobie> installing jre now
[07:27] <genoobie> phunyguy_tab, no go?
[07:27] <phunyguy_tab> isnt it a java based game?
[07:27] <genoobie> yes
[07:27] <phunyguy_tab> eeeek
[07:27] <genoobie> oh
[07:27] <aeon-ltd> genoobie: that's pushing it, i've run it on a celeron m 3gb ram, couldn't hit 30fps even with optifine
[07:28] <aeon-ltd> clock at 2ghz i think
[07:28] <genoobie> this is crazy, for the quality of game that it is, I mean shouldn't it run smooth?
[07:28] <sunsetlover> i'd intalled ubuntu 12.10 on my laptop (hp g6) with windows 7, well every thing goes well but yesterday i found that the wireless not working good, because the router is not far of me (just 2 meters) and in windows the signal is full, but in ubuntu i found that the signal is low and lossing the connection without to internet for more one time in few minutes. will you please inform me what
[07:28] <sunsetlover> happened with me? n.b: i tested the connection in windows and i found it working very good
[07:29] <genoobie> ok tx
[07:29] <yva> aeon-ltd, yep, I've read the same thread
[07:29] <yva> cool :)
[07:29] <genoobie> boy, this machine is really borderline
[07:29] <genoobie> :)
[07:29] <dr_willis> minecraft smooth on a PIII 800mhz?  :) thats... amuzeing..
[07:30] <aeon-ltd> genoobie: running now on a c2d 2.4ghz/x3100/4gb ram/optifine i can hit 30-40 on tiny short distances
[07:30] <genoobie> dr_willis, but the game seems so basic...
[07:30] <Ben64> minecraft doesn't look good, but requires a lot of power
[07:30] <genoobie> Ben64, that's what I am curious about
[07:30] <genoobie> why?
[07:30] <aeon-ltd> more for lan play
[07:30] <phunyguy_tab> java is the pig in this case i am sure
[07:30] <dr_willis> genoobie:  and perhps very unoptmizzed
[07:30] <genoobie> phunyguy_tab, any way to "optimize"
[07:30] <Ben64> think about  how many blocks are being computed at once
[07:30] <dr_willis> lots and lots of blocks
[07:30] <dydzEz2_> i feel like ubuntu made a partition that, in windows, looks like a recovery partition (so i cant delete it, as ive already deleted the main ubuntu partition), is it normal to have 2 recovery partitions? 1 is like 9gigs and the 2nd is 1gig
[07:30] <dr_willis> take so so code.. and maganify it...
[07:31] <Ben64> 128*16*16*20 at the least
[07:31] <phunyguy_tab> i have no idea
[07:31] <genoobie> oh, hrm
[07:31] <genoobie> adding texture....now!
[07:31] <dr_willis> dydzEz2_:  windows7 normally has a boot partion  and its main partion.. then the pc maker may have 1 or more recovery partions
[07:31] <genoobie> :)
[07:31] <genoobie> okay, forget it then, I was hoping it might work
[07:32] <genoobie> maybe infiniminer :)
[07:32] <Ben64> you should get a better computer
[07:32] <genoobie> Ben64, yes
[07:32] <genoobie> I am thinking about that now.
[07:32] <dr_willis> My Raspberry Pi proberly has more oomph then that thing. ;)
[07:32] <genoobie> dr_willis, not really
[07:33] <Ambushed> Donate some bitcoins 1838oUxQED5WSM3HfwXZYdv7SfrCu5iRa2
[07:33] <dydzEz2_> dr_willis is it possible ubuntu could even emulate a recovery partition
[07:33] <dydzEz2_> on a regular install
[07:33] <Ben64> it probably does
[07:33] <aeon-ltd> you can play the minecraft built for rPi
[07:33] <genoobie> seriously?
[07:33] <Ben64> Ambushed: don't spam stuff here
[07:33] <dr_willis> its got moar ram.. and i can overclock it to 900mhz ;)
[07:33] <genoobie> isn't it based on ARM?
[07:33] <Ben64> yep
[07:33] <aeon-ltd> that'd be the cheapest you could get a minecraft machine
[07:33] <dr_willis> dydzEz2_:  i wouldent think so
[07:33] <Ben64> pentium 3 is very very very old
[07:33] <genoobie> okay, hold a sec
[07:34]  * genoobie is googling rpi
[07:34] <dr_willis> if you can get one. :) or more... and not have to wait weeks
[07:34] <Ben64> i have an amd64 sitting here doing nothing, its got to be many times faster than your p3
[07:34] <jellow> Hi there I've installed ubuntu 12.04 LTS though I have no wireless , What do I do ?
[07:34] <dr_willis> Ben64:  same here.. several older pcs in the garrage
[07:34] <badday_> jellow: more information please: what means "I have no", what hardware do u use etc. pp.
[07:34] <aeon-ltd> clusters!
[07:35] <genoobie> oh
[07:35] <dr_willis> jellow:  huh? you mean to be asking 'how do i get wireless working?'
[07:35] <genoobie> Ben64, wanna trade?
[07:35] <genoobie> :)
[07:35] <Ben64> no, i don't want a p3
[07:35] <Ben64> tossed out all that stuff quite a while ago
[07:35] <genoobie> ugh,
[07:35] <genoobie> makes me feel a bit foolish
[07:36] <dr_willis> Ben64:  same here... goodwill wants them
[07:36] <dr_willis> well.. they took them
[07:36] <Ben64> amd64 3200+ is the oldest computer i have now
[07:36] <aeon-ltd> Ben64: what if it were 1ghz?
[07:36] <genoobie> working on this PIII 800MHz, right now
[07:36] <Ben64> aeon-ltd: nah
[07:36] <jellow> badday_: I'm on a Desktop PC does not pick up any interfaces , My card is RTL8101E/RTL8102E
[07:36] <Ben64> genoobie: get something better, you'll probably save money in power usage
[07:37] <genoobie> Ben64, heh
[07:37] <sunsetlover> guys, no one answer my question until now
[07:37] <badday_> jellow: what does ifconfig tell u?
[07:37] <badday_> !patience | sunsetlover
[07:37] <genoobie> okay, will consider it
[07:38] <Ben64> genoobie: if you lived anywhere near me i'd just give you this cpu+mobo
[07:38] <aeon-ltd> IT'S A TRAP!
[07:38] <jellow> badday_: eth0 and lo
[07:38] <genoobie> aeon-ltd, of course it is :)
[07:39] <Ben64> new york is quite far from california though
[07:39] <plafratt> Has anyone run raring on testdrive successfully?
[07:39] <Ben64> eh, i've given components to irc people before
[07:39] <genoobie> jk
[07:39] <genoobie> what if I send a Self Addressed Stamped Envelope :)
[07:39] <Ben64> plafratt: who is testdrive
[07:39] <Ben64> it won't fit in
[07:40] <aeon-ltd> risky too
[07:40] <zykotick9> !13.04 | plafratt
[07:40] <genoobie> it's too bad that these machines aren't very useful
[07:40] <jellow> is module r8169 ethernet or wireless ?
[07:40] <genoobie> word processing and some simple word searches with puppylinux or something
[07:40] <dr_willis> old machine - ssh - terminals ;)
[07:40] <genoobie> simple internet searches I mean
[07:41] <genoobie> loading up "minetest"
[07:42] <plafratt> ubottu: Thanks. I had gone over there earlier and that channel look inactive. Do you know happen to know if there is a time that it is more active?
[07:42] <Ben64> i also have a core 2 duo with a broken motherboard
[07:42] <plafratt> whoops
[07:42] <dr_willis> plafratt:  it is like 3AM on sunday morning. :) ( usa time)   so its going to be slow
[07:43] <Ben64> super bowl sunday
[07:43] <dr_willis> everyone is  busy posting pictures of their cats on reddit........
[07:43] <dr_willis> ;_
[07:43] <genoobie> heh
[07:43] <genoobie> yeah, I dunno, I am not going to buy laptops for my 9yo
[07:44] <plafratt> dr_willis: Ah, :). Well, I thought this one when developers got most of their work done.
[07:44] <genoobie> let them write up some text games in basic
[07:44] <genoobie> that's what I did
[07:44] <genoobie> they can play zork or something
[07:44] <genoobie> maybe run an emulator :)
[07:44] <genoobie> they have a Wii
[07:44] <dr_willis> genoobie:  thats sort of the target audience for the Raspberry Pi
[07:44] <dr_willis> kids learning koding
[07:44] <Ben64> turn your kid into a linux pro
[07:45] <dr_willis> and  hardware hacking
[07:45] <genoobie> well they will be on the PIII 800Mhz
[07:45] <genoobie> :)
[07:45] <genoobie> I've run through about 10 different distributions
[07:45] <genoobie> finally settling on puppylinux
[07:45] <genoobie> it almost ran minecraft :)
[07:45] <genoobie> better than windows
[07:45] <aeon-ltd> genoobie: low end build/donations? you could probably build a pentium/celeron box for a few hundred, if you have donor parts it could be less. prices might drop when intel's haswell line comes in though
[07:45] <dr_willis> problem with Puppy is that they can break it easially.... but  not like it matters much
[07:46] <genoobie> dr_willis, how do you figure?
[07:46] <genoobie> you mean like dragging files around and such?
[07:46] <dr_willis> genoobie:  i used puppy for some time.. you can easially break your setup
[07:46] <Ben64> aeon-ltd: few hundred? I could make a gaming computer for that much
[07:46] <dr_willis> genoobie:  but the way it uses save files.. makes it faily easy to restore..
[07:47] <genoobie> yes, how would you resture?
[07:47] <genoobie> restore I mean.
[07:47] <genoobie> so you have some pup.sfs
[07:47] <genoobie> you make a copy?
[07:47] <dr_willis> you  backup your save files... yes.
[07:47] <genoobie> they bork the one file
[07:47] <genoobie> gotcha
[07:47] <genoobie> restore
[07:47] <FloodBot1> genoobie: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:48] <genoobie> okay, anyhow, nite, it's almost 3AM here
[07:48] <genoobie> peace and thanks for the advice everyone
[07:48] <genoobie> BTW, I will never buy another thing off of craigslist again.
[07:48] <dr_willis> you paid money for that? ;)
[07:48] <genoobie> no
[07:48] <genoobie> thank god
[07:48] <genoobie> not that dumb, but maybe someone else is :)
[07:49] <genoobie> hmmm
[07:49] <dr_willis> bbl
[07:49] <genoobie> yep
[07:49] <genoobie> nite
[07:49] <wsky> so, anyone knows how to activate console kit session?
[07:51] <aeon-ltd> wsky: exec ck-launch-session nameofde/wm as your .xinitrc if you use startx
[07:51] <wsky> yes i got this
[07:51] <wsky> but the session is inactive
[07:52] <wsky> so, basically, dosent work
[07:53] <tumors> Yo is it possible to skip unmet dependencies? It wants me to install fglrx but I'm worried it'll break my current version and i dont want to do it anyways because i'd have to not be using it to do it
[07:54] <guideX> the latest rabbitsvn integrates very nicely in 12.10
[07:54] <guideX> in unity
[07:59] <randimiller> hey everyone
[07:59] <elfer> hi randi
[07:59] <guideX> hi
[07:59] <elfer> :0
[08:01] <randimiller> playing the wireless drivers game tonight.. how about you guys/gals?
[08:02] <aeon-ltd> i'm sorry i thought this was america
[08:03] <tumors> Wow this channel is pretty idle these days isnt it
[08:03] <bravis_> :D
[08:04] <idea> MO
[08:04] <guideX> just tonight because it's "super bowl" sunday (or something)
[08:04] <guideX> I don't watch a lot of basketball so ya know..
[08:05] <helmut_> hi
[08:05] <aeon-ltd> hi
[08:05] <idea> HI
[08:05] <guideX> hi
[08:05] <tumors> i should watch the superbowl for the first time
[08:05] <tumors> >Basketball
[08:05] <idea> are thre  chinese people
[08:05] <randimiller> tumors: I had to ask someone today who was playing.. still didn't care after their answer
[08:06] <guideX> yes, I suppose there are chinese people
[08:06] <randimiller> lol
[08:06] <idea> oh
[08:07] <idea> how are you
[08:07] <randimiller> I hate it when someone posts in a forum that they got something working but don't explain how
[08:07] <randimiller> uggg
[08:07] <guideX> hehe
[08:08] <idea> 中文。
[08:08] <wsky> /wc/j #freedesktop
[08:08] <wsky> whoops
[08:09] <randimiller> idea: 英语
[08:09] <randimiller> love google translate
[08:10] <guideX> I reallly love this rabbitsvn, it's the coolest linux thingy yet
[08:11] <idea> I don't understand English.
[08:11] <aeon-ltd> !zh | idea
[08:12] <randimiller> Neither do most english speakers
[08:12] <brady2600> I support the simplified spelling foundation, so we can all understand it. lol.
[08:12] <dr_willis> the new metric alphabet!
[08:14] <guideX> the world should just communicate in c code
[08:14]  * dr_willis runs classic books through grammer checkers  to watch the programs explode
[08:14] <Tex_Nick> hehe
[08:15] <aeon-ltd> guideX: so the same, but with printf?
[08:15] <guideX> yeah
[08:15] <aeon-ltd> replace the caps lock key to type 'printf' then i'm on board
[08:16] <brady2600> can ubuntu be used some how to burn a cd from a cd drive, on another ubuntu box?
[08:17] <aeon-ltd> remote burning?
[08:17] <dr_willis> you mean burn to a cd on a differnt machine?
[08:17] <brady2600> my wifes computer runs ubuntu.  I have no cd burner, her computer does.
[08:17] <dr_willis> make an iso.. send it over.. burn it there
[08:17] <aeon-ltd> ssh? then burning application?
[08:18] <TheLordOfTime> or save the ISO to a USB drive for transport to the other box.
[08:18] <TheLordOfTime> and then do the burn over on their computer
[08:18] <brady2600> thats not the question im asking, im asking if its possible to load up some application on my machine, and have it miraculously burning on her machine.
[08:18] <guideX> why not use something like hamachi to setup vpn between the two machines
[08:18] <brady2600> im not interested in the usb stick route
[08:18] <dr_willis> brady2600:  never seen such an app
[08:18] <TheLordOfTime> brady2600:  no, any such application would be existing on their system and be being accessed from yours
[08:18] <TheLordOfTime> probably via x-forwarding
[08:19] <TheLordOfTime> but...
[08:19] <TheLordOfTime> i wouldn't even trust *that*
[08:19] <brady2600> via x forwarding , i can load the iso that is on my machine
[08:19] <dr_willis> well with x foerwaerding - you would be  making the cd on their system. ;)   since it wont be accessing local files
[08:19] <TheLordOfTime> brady2600:  you would need to scp it to their system
[08:19] <TheLordOfTime> scp / ssh file transfer
[08:19] <TheLordOfTime> brady2600:  scp /path/to/file/locally user@remotesystemaddress:/path/to/save/file/at/on/remote
[08:20] <TheLordOfTime> *maybe*
[08:20] <guideX> you can use neorouter to setup vpn between the two pc's brady... just an idea
[08:20] <brady2600> never heard of scp
[08:20] <dr_willis> !scp
[08:20] <brady2600> i use x11 to get to my raspbian system
[08:20] <TheLordOfTime> brady2600:  i'm also assuming the remote system has sshd on it
[08:20] <TheLordOfTime> (aka SSH access)
[08:21] <TheLordOfTime> s/SSH access/a way for you to SSH to it/
[08:21] <brady2600> it would be cool if there was some sort of ssh tunneled x11 server that could do scp , but intigrated as a drive somehow
[08:21] <guideX> you can have your wife downstairs, yelling the individual bytes from downstairs
[08:21] <TheLordOfTime> :P
[08:22] <dr_willis> there may be some network burning services out there.. but uve never noticed them.. never needed them
[08:22] <brady2600> ONE ZERO ONE ONE ZERO ZERRO!!
[08:22] <dr_willis> burnind across the network would seem to have high potential for bad burns/underruns
[08:22] <aeon-ltd> brady2600: turns out to be rick astley
[08:23] <dr_willis> you could make up a service that takes iso files from some upload directory and burns them  automacially
[08:23] <brady2600> rick astley?
[08:23] <aeon-ltd> never gonna give you up
[08:24] <aeon-ltd> dr_willis: dropbox then scripting?
[08:24] <brady2600> damn.. i believe my music taste diqualifies me from understanding that
[08:24] <dr_willis> i imagine scping or ftpong to thee server would be faster
[08:25] <dr_willis> i cant even recall the last time i burnt a cd or dvd...
[08:25] <OerHeks> of rick astley ?
[08:26] <dr_willis> havent bought any blanks in ages...   even the dual layer dvds seem to 'tight' on space to store much to them ;)
[08:27]  * dr_willis wouldent know rick astley if  he saw him...
[08:27] <Hund> Does anyone knows how to get the function keys to work in Byobu?
[08:27] <dr_willis> Hund:  you using the console? or gnome-terminal? or what exactly withit?
[08:28] <Hund> dr_willis: I have tried both gnome-terminal, xfce-terminal and urxvt
[08:28] <dr_willis> some terminal apps ocverride the byou f keys..
[08:28] <dr_willis> override
[08:29] <dr_willis> check the terminal apps settings..
[08:29] <dr_willis> i hate it when a terminal emulator decides IT needs my F10 key....
[08:30] <dr_willis> almost as annoying as keeping f1 dedicated for a 'help menu' ;)
[08:30] <Hund> dr_willis: lol, I forgot to test tmux with urxvt. That worked. :P
[08:30] <dr_willis> i only use tmux/byobu over my android phone. ;)  rarely use it in an actual terminal app
[08:31] <Hund> dr_willis: Im using it on my server. I run a bunch of stuff there and its esier to manage them all with byobu. :)
[08:34] <xinglenick> hello, anyone knows where is the file that the language,lang locale var is defined by language support ?
[08:36] <nearst> xinglenick, whereis locale
[08:37] <xinglenick> nearst: you mean /etc/default/locale file ?
[08:39] <nearst> xinglenick, ya. u can see locale-gen output at /usr/lib/locale
[08:42] <xinglenick> hi, i eidt /etc/default/locale, set lang to en_US.utf8, language to en, and ran update-locale to update my locale, but locale still not changed
[08:42] <dr_willis> !locale
[08:43] <nearst> xinglenick, check your localedef too
[08:43] <theadmin> xinglenick: It should be en_US.UTF-8
[08:44] <theadmin> xinglenick: Make sure the locale is generated, too: sudo locale-gen en_US en_US.UTF-8
[08:48] <Botanic> how can I make it so that an application has an icon? I made a .desktop file but when i launch it directly it still shows no icon, http://img42.imageshack.us/img42/6106/71677374.png
[08:48] <dr_willis> directly mesning?
[08:48] <xGeek> Hello, is there something like internet download manager in ubuntu ?
[08:48] <dr_willis> meaning?
[08:48] <xinglenick> theadmin, yes, i have change it to LANG="en_US.UTF-8" and LANGUAGE=en, then ran sudo update-locale, but locale still not unchange
[08:49] <xinglenick> sorry, locale still the same
[08:49] <nearst> xGeek, thereis a lot like wget, aria2. google uget for gtk downloader
[08:49] <xGeek> nearst: and i can downlad facebook video with ?
[08:50] <theadmin> xinglenick: Are you sure your user doesn't have it's own locale set?
[08:52] <nearst> xGeek, not sure. usually video stream in linux located at /tmp . never thought to download facebook vids
[08:52] <xinglenick> theadmin, i also ran sudo locale-gen en_US en_US.UTF-8 , sudo update-locale, but it still not work
[08:54] <xinglenick> theadmin, i cheack my ~/.profile .bashrc but i can't see anything about LANGUAGE, LANG locale var
[08:54] <theadmin> xinglenick: Maybe you should "sudo dpkg-reconfigure locales"
[08:55] <guideX> is there anything like gedit which has syntax highlighting but as simple as say notepad for windows?
[08:55] <dr_willis> try geany
[08:56] <guideX> geany eh
[08:56] <guideX> ok
[08:56] <iceroot> guideX: or "leafpad" standard editor on lxde/lubuntu
[08:56] <theadmin> iceroot: I don't think leafpad has syntax highlighting.