[01:45] <CIA-130> [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/kdepimlibs] Philip Muškovac * 146 * debian/ (changelog control) New upstream release
[03:28] <shadeslayer> heh
[03:33] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: it's alive and building \o/
[03:33] <shadeslayer> unfourtunately, i have to kill it because i'm heading off to college
[03:39] <ScottK> yofel: Done.
[03:42] <ScottK> apachelogger: I got that one.  We don't do userspace CPU management anymore, so it's invalid.
[10:02] <Girly-Girl> KDE 4.7.2 packaging done?
[10:03] <Girly-Girl> ohh sorry not yet released
[11:32] <apachelogger> anyone here?
[11:33] <GirlyGirl> apachelogger: The packaging team itself aparently not
[11:33] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: ssup
[11:33]  * apachelogger is one of the master lord packagers :P
[11:34] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: dolphin ... bug 593324
[11:34] <apachelogger> question is should dolphin recommend or suggest konsole
[11:35] <apachelogger> "The Recommends field should list packages that would be found together with this one in all but unusual installations."
[11:35]  * apachelogger thinks that someone who uses a builtin terminal in a file manager runs an unusual installation ^^
[11:35] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: Recommends
[11:36] <apachelogger> very related:
[11:36] <apachelogger> dolphin also seems to have tools -> compare stuff
[11:36] <shadeslayer> oh wait wait
[11:36] <apachelogger> which I reckon requires kompare
[11:36] <yofel> GirlyGirl: see 4.7.2 link in topic, work in progress
[11:37] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: yup, i'd go with recommends
[11:37] <apachelogger> So, I think kompare as suggests is a given
[11:38] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: but how do we justify installation of a terminal app in env that possibly already have one?
[11:38] <apachelogger> I mean, if I were using xfce and installed dolphin it would seem very silly to get konsole as well
[11:38] <apachelogger> just to have the builtin terminal feature of dolphin
[11:38] <apachelogger> yofel: what do you think?
[11:39] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: Enhances would probably be the best fit imo
[11:39] <yofel> shadeslayer: might as well make dolphin suggest it then
[11:39] <apachelogger> yeah, BUT, enhances goes the wrong direction  IMHO
[11:40] <shadeslayer> yofel: no i meant, konsole enhances dolphin
[11:40] <apachelogger> konsole does not enhance dophin, the kpart does
[11:40] <shadeslayer> uh, right, and that kpart comes from konsole?
[11:40] <apachelogger> technically the kpart comes from kdelibs :P
[11:40] <shadeslayer> heh :P
[11:41] <shadeslayer> then how does installing konsole fix that bug ?
[11:41] <apachelogger> the problem is ... konsole would then have to enhance kile and kdevelop and god knows what
[11:41] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: it is the runtime kpart provider
[11:41] <apachelogger> the actual kpart component is not resolved until runtime, which might in fact justify enhances
[11:42] <apachelogger> but as I said, it sort of goes into the wrong direction as that would require konsole to define a bazillion enhances
[11:42] <apachelogger> "This field is similar to Suggests but works in the opposite direction. It is used to declare that a package can enhance the functionality of another package."
[11:42] <apachelogger> about enhances
[11:42] <shadeslayer> right ...
[11:42] <apachelogger> so I personally would only use enhances for packages that *only* enhance one or two other packages
[11:43] <apachelogger> like the dolphin vcs plugins would be a case of enhances
[11:43] <apachelogger> they enhance dolphin and only that (or whatever package contains the file browser kpart if you will)
[11:44] <apachelogger> anyone with an ubuntu install around?
[11:44] <apachelogger> or the software center
[11:44]  * shadeslayer is on OS X compiling Qt
[11:44] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: muon software center makes suggests show up as addons, just like enhances
[11:45] <shadeslayer> ooh
[11:45] <shadeslayer> well
[11:45] <apachelogger> http://i.imgur.com/LOEoK.png
[11:45] <apachelogger> ruby and vcs plugins are suggests
[11:45] <apachelogger> SO
[11:45] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: it's ot a addon per se
[11:45] <shadeslayer> *not a
[11:45] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: why not?
[11:45] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: because my definition of plugin is something that you can enable/disable
[11:45] <shadeslayer> something like the git/bzr plugin for dolphin
[11:46] <apachelogger> it aint plugin, it is an addon :P
[11:46] <apachelogger> besides, you can enable/disable the konsole feature
[11:46] <shadeslayer> whats the difference between the 2?
[11:46] <shadeslayer> you ... can? O_O
[11:46] <apachelogger> by adding/removing the terminal panel
[11:46] <shadeslayer> ah
[11:46] <yofel> + the terminal panel is off by default
[11:47] <apachelogger> if that were not the case it would be a dep or at the very least a recommends
[11:47] <apachelogger> I think suggests might make most sense
[11:47] <yofel> +1
[11:47] <apachelogger> because if you do not already have konsole you most definitely have another terminal app so you might not need konsole, making autoinstall thru recommends bad behavior
[11:48] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: whats with the e's in that screenshot ? ( In "Reviews" )
[11:48] <apachelogger> at the same time user friendly package manager UIs expose the suggests in very accessible manner making it easy to find and install if necessary
[11:48] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: if only I knew, I think there is some boldness issue with nokia pure
[11:52] <CIA-130> [kde-baseapps] Harald Sitter<EMAIL_ADDRESS>*<EMAIL_ADDRESS>* debian/ (changelog control) (log message trimmed)
[11:52] <CIA-130> * Dolphin doesn't recommend kfind anymore (it is not used for search these days,
[11:52] <CIA-130> but nepomuk is) * Dolphin suggests konsole (LP: #593324) - Used in the Tools
[11:52] <CIA-130> [kde-baseapps] Harald Sitter<EMAIL_ADDRESS>*<EMAIL_ADDRESS>* debian/KUBUNTU-DEBIAN-DIFFERENCES update diff file accordingly
[11:52] <apachelogger> ScottK: do we want that in 11.10?
[11:54] <apachelogger> what do we do with bug 706900
[11:55] <yofel> oh fun, aseigo's folderview patch made it partially back into 4.7.2. Or he forgot to remove the whole patch
[11:59] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: ok, i've built everything
[12:02] <shadeslayer> hmm, should i install all of this as well
[12:05] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: suppose so?
[12:05] <apachelogger> I have no idea what all of this is though
[12:06] <shadeslayer> yeah, I'm having a look as wel
[12:06] <shadeslayer> *well
[12:33] <shadeslayer> installing is taking forever @_@
[12:35] <apachelogger> you should have opted for SSD clearly :P
[12:38] <CIA-130> [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/okular] Philip Muškovac * 14 * debian/ (changelog control) New upstream release
[12:41] <shadeslayer> omg its done
[12:41] <shadeslayer> \o/
[12:42] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: http://cl.ly/3t0n3U0G0O3g0A0D142q
[12:43] <apachelogger> wohooo
[12:43] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: now try with uds app
[12:44] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: i think you need to write a .xcodeproj file
[12:44] <apachelogger> why is that?
[12:44] <apachelogger> and what would it contain?
[12:44] <apachelogger> can you upload a demo project somewhere
[12:45] <shadeslayer> actually, its a entire folder
[12:45] <shadeslayer> sure, give me a second
[12:45] <shadeslayer> it's in the qt sources
[12:45] <shadeslayer> under the examples/qmltest
[12:45] <shadeslayer> qt/src/plugins/platforms/uikit/examples/
[12:50] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: http://cl.ly/0y1T160q400T3f3m0z0g
[12:50] <shadeslayer> :D
[12:50] <CIA-130> [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/kate] Philip Muškovac * 44 * debian/ (changelog control) New upstream release
[12:54] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: i need to pay and join the apple dev to actually transfer a app onto a actual device :/
[12:58] <CIA-130> [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/libkipi] Philip Muškovac * 20 * debian/ (changelog control) New upstream release
[13:07] <CIA-130> [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/libkdeedu] Philip Muškovac * 14 * debian/ (changelog control) New upstream release
[13:15] <Quintasan_> wendar: ping
[13:15] <Quintasan> shadeslayer: pong
[13:16] <Quintasan> wendar: ah nvm, got your email
[13:18] <ScottK> apachelogger: I don't think adding a suggests is worth it for release.  I'd add it for 4.7.2 and we'll squeeze it in for the SRU.
[13:19] <ScottK> yofel: I added aseigo's folderview patch back as a distro patch.  You aren't seeing that are you?
[13:19] <yofel> ScottK: I am, but half of the patch is in 4.7.2, half isn't
[13:19] <Quintasan> ScottK: Any ideas about that Konsole patch we talked some time ago? That one for re-enabling text dragging
[13:19] <ScottK> Weird.
[13:20] <ScottK> Quintasan: I've patched my konsole locally (if it's the one I'm thinking of).  It turns out upstream changed it on purpose, so I think we shouldn't switch it back.
[13:20] <Quintasan> Urgh.
[13:21] <Quintasan> That was actually a nice feature
[13:21] <ScottK> apachelogger says it's non-trivial to make it configurable.
[13:21] <ScottK> Agreed.
[13:21] <ScottK> Feel free to install konsole from my PPA.
[13:39] <CIA-130> [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/libkdcraw] Philip Muškovac * 19 * debian/ (changelog control) New upstream release
[14:00] <CIA-130> [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/libkexiv2] Philip Muškovac * 22 * debian/ (changelog control) New upstream release
[14:04] <apachelogger> ScottK: it is trivial
[14:04] <apachelogger> it is just one member var that needs swapping based on the setting
[14:10] <ScottK> apachelogger: Perhaps you could propose it for 4.8 then so we can get this solved properly.
[14:10] <apachelogger> I thought you filed a bug report on this?
[14:11]  * apachelogger doesnt know nearly enough about konsole code to do that sort of change
[14:12] <CIA-130> [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/kde-wallpapers] Philip Muškovac * 15 * debian/ (changelog control) New upstream release
[14:17] <txwikinger> Somehow oneiric deaktop seems more unstable that natty. I have had several times when the desktop "froze" and I got bumped to the login. Not sure what is causing that so
[14:19] <yofel> I got that once I opened firefox, it complained about missing libcanberra-gtk-module, and the next message in xsession-errors was "kded4: client killed"
[14:19] <yofel> *once when I
[14:20] <txwikinger> yeah.. it may has to do with firefox.
[14:20] <txwikinger> I think it happens after firefox is starting to use 100% cpu or something like that
[14:21] <txwikinger> firefox6 and firefox7 are far less stable than firefox5
[14:21] <yofel> considering firefox has some X code in it I wouldn't be surprised if it could take X down
[14:22] <txwikinger> yeah.. I do not understand why FF and Chromium do that.. shouldn't say use KDE/Gnome instead of directly X?
[14:22] <txwikinger> well Qt/Gtk probably
[14:23]  * txwikinger is too tired to think... too much work during the weekend
[14:26] <CIA-130> [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/kdegames] Philip Muškovac * 135 * debian/ (changelog control) New upstream release
[14:27] <CIA-130> [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/kdemultimedia] Philip Muškovac * 133 * debian/ (changelog control) New upstream release
[14:30] <shadeslayer> are you guys repacking stuff with xz or using bz2 ?
[14:31] <yofel> bz2
[14:31] <yofel> no point in using xz for most packages
[14:31] <shadeslayer> ok
[14:33] <shadeslayer> O_O
[14:33] <shadeslayer> kgetsource does everything
[14:33] <apachelogger> hrrr hrrr
[14:33] <shadeslayer> even upgrades kde-sc-dev-latest
[14:33] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: any luck with uds app
[14:33] <shadeslayer> I've been made redundant by a script
[14:33] <yofel> almost, you still need to edit changelog for ppa build and make source package :P
[14:33] <apachelogger> also check kde:scratch/sitter/qev
[14:33] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: you didn't give me that folder thingy
[14:34] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: packaging stuff and looking at STUN Indications right now, will have a look in a couple of hours
[14:34] <shadeslayer> yofel: true that
[14:34] <apachelogger> oh trust me, you totally want to look at this now
[14:34] <apachelogger> it is way too wicked
[14:34] <shadeslayer> hehe
[14:35] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: I already started a kdepim-runtime build
[14:35] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: I believe *you* need to make that xcodeproject thing
[14:35] <shadeslayer> i should probably look at bzr build-deb
[14:35] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: really?
[14:35] <apachelogger> well
[14:35] <apachelogger> look at that file
[14:36] <apachelogger> looks heavily autogenerated from xcode
[14:36] <shadeslayer> hmm
[14:36] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: i have no idea how to open a project withouth that file
[14:36] <shadeslayer> will look tho
[14:36] <apachelogger> well
[14:36] <apachelogger> you need to create a project
[14:37] <apachelogger> and then we apparently need more ifdef in main.cpp ^^
[14:37] <apachelogger> or we main.mm it
[14:37] <shadeslayer> main.mm is the right way i think
[14:37] <shadeslayer> how does one use bzr builddeb again
[14:37] <shadeslayer> with pbuilder
[14:38] <apachelogger> *shrug*
[14:38] <shadeslayer> hmm
[14:38] <apachelogger> I always build a source and throw that into pbuilder
[14:38] <apachelogger> http://paste.kde.org/129769/
[14:38] <apachelogger> it is a beauty, that is what this is
[14:39] <shadeslayer> O_O
[14:39] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: what magickery is that thing
[14:39] <apachelogger> qev
[14:39] <apachelogger> inspired by xev
[14:39] <shadeslayer> i bet you coded that with your wizard hat on
[14:40] <apachelogger> why yes
[14:40] <apachelogger> it does plenty of runtime enum introspection ^^
[14:40] <yofel> bbl
[14:41] <apachelogger> I did not even know you could do that
[14:41]  * shadeslayer closes the paste before his eyes pop out
[14:41] <apachelogger> turns it out is is jolly easy
[14:41] <apachelogger> except for the Qt namespace enums
[14:41] <apachelogger> which is why line 30 has a funny function ^^
[14:41] <apachelogger> http://paste.kde.org/129775/
[14:41] <shadeslayer> heh
[14:42] <apachelogger> the reason for line 30's function is explained at line 30 there :P
[14:42] <shadeslayer> hahaha
[14:43] <ScottK> apachelogger: The original bug report asked for it to be selectable which the maintainer 'solved' by just changing the default.  I complained in that bug that selectable would be great, so if you could provide a patch to actually do the original bug, that'd be super.
[14:56] <fabo> have you heard about plasma desktop shell crashes? I'm able to 100% reproduce when I configure RTM plasma widget
[14:57] <fabo> it isn't reproducible with Oneiric beta 2
[15:06] <apachelogger> fabo: no reports on launchpad anyway
[15:16] <fabo> apachelogger: ok, I'll try to get a backtrace and reports the bugs. thanks.
[15:32] <ScottK> fabo: Please report to b.k.o (just like you would for Debian).
[15:47] <fabo> ScottK: sure
[15:50] <ScottK> Thanks.
[16:11] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: ok, so i have xcode oepn
[16:11] <shadeslayer> *open
[16:11] <shadeslayer> i can't just directly open your project
[16:11] <apachelogger> yeah
[16:11] <apachelogger> big surprise
[16:12] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: you need to create a new project
[16:12] <shadeslayer> there are a bazillion of them
[16:12] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: http://cl.ly/1O133F410p2i2C2J0y0Q
[16:13] <shadeslayer> ( the last one is a empty project )
[16:13] <apachelogger> you might have a template QMLApplicationViewer
[16:13] <shadeslayer> yup
[16:13] <shadeslayer> well
[16:13] <shadeslayer> it's there in the examples
[16:13] <apachelogger> make such a project
[16:15] <apachelogger> or read the readme
[16:15] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: https://qt.gitorious.org/qt/qt/blobs/4.8/src/plugins/platforms/uikit/README
[16:15] <apachelogger> see 3) XCode setup
[16:15] <shadeslayer> yeah, thats what i'm looking at
[16:15] <micahg> hi Riddell, would it be possible to make the DMB owner of Kubuntu Dev so DMB membership doesn't grant any extra upload rights?
[16:16] <maco> dmb currently grants buttloads of extra upload rights
[16:16] <shadeslayer> hmm
[16:16] <maco> (no i did not abuse that while on the dmb, simply noted it)
[16:16] <micahg> maco: right, trying to fix :)
[16:16] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: company identifier? like in javah : com.yourcompany.UDS
[16:17] <apachelogger> shere?
[16:17] <Riddell> micahg: I'm not sure I understand, how does that affect what DMB grants?
[16:17] <maco> Riddell: owners dont have to be members
[16:17] <micahg> Riddell: owner does not grant upload rights in a team, only membership
[16:17] <maco> er yeah that
[16:17] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: where actually :)
[16:17] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: only reference to id in the pbxproj seems to be about binary signing
[16:18] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: http://cl.ly/2Z1D2n46343o141L432q
[16:18] <micahg> Riddell: being owner allows us to modify membership w/out actually being a recipient of the benefits of membership
[16:18] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: apparently
[16:18] <apachelogger> com.ubuntu.summit.ios
[16:18] <apachelogger> should be the entire identifier
[16:18] <apachelogger> or you could also ditch the ios I suppose
[16:19] <apachelogger> the app uses com.ubuntu.summit as identifier for configs etc.
[16:19] <shadeslayer> right now it's : com.ubuntu.summit.UDS
[16:19] <apachelogger> ditch the UDS :P
[16:19] <shadeslayer> Product Name : UDS
[16:19] <apachelogger> just use summit as name
[16:19] <apachelogger> and com.ubuntu as company
[16:19] <shadeslayer> Xcode adds project name to the Bundle identifier
[16:19] <apachelogger> so name the project summit?
[16:19] <shadeslayer> Bundle Identifier = Product Name + Company Identifier
[16:19] <Riddell> micahg: why would you modify membership?
[16:20] <micahg> Riddell: in the case someone needed to be removed
[16:20] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: I am being confused, just use something... if it comes out wrong we can always redo it ^^
[16:20] <shadeslayer> heh
[16:20] <shadeslayer> k
[16:20] <maco> micahg: because they got hit by a bus?
[16:20] <apachelogger> that stuff is just supposed to be xcode configs
[16:21] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: do you have a nokia dev account?
[16:21] <shadeslayer> mmm .. .nope
[16:21]  * apachelogger ponders moving the repo to nokia code hosting
[16:22] <apachelogger> it actually supports git, unlike other project management solutions we all know :P
[16:22] <micahg> maco: more likely would be a project ban or something
[16:22] <apachelogger> oh
[16:22] <shadeslayer> "  - remove the nibs and view controller and app controller files"
[16:22] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: seems that stuff ends up in project.plist
[16:22] <apachelogger> so we can probably edit it easily
[16:22] <micahg> Riddell: we were admins before, but the membership just expired
[16:23] <shadeslayer> OS X comes with a default install of emacs \o/
[16:23] <shadeslayer> the command line version
[16:24] <Riddell> micahg: mm, well probably the kubuntu council should work out what to do, I'm not really in kubuntu mode until next month, could you e-mail kubuntu-devel?  (or I can if  preferred)
[16:24] <ScottK> Since kubuntu-dev is delegated from the DMB (it's a different situation than KC), I think it's OK.
[16:24] <ScottK> Riddell: kubuntu-dev is a DMB delegation.
[16:24] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: i don't have any of the files that the readme tells me to delete
[16:25] <apachelogger> all the better I guess? :)
[16:25] <shadeslayer> and neither does the plist have anything called Main nib file
[16:25] <shadeslayer> yaeh
[16:25] <micahg> Riddell: more likely than not we woudn't be touching anything
[16:25] <shadeslayer> oh theres
[16:25] <micahg> and we had this ability previously, it just expired over the weekend
[16:25] <shadeslayer> Main nib file base name
[16:27] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: https://projects.developer.nokia.com/uds
[16:27] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: you can get an account at developer.nokia.com
[16:28] <shadeslayer> looking
[16:28] <shadeslayer> yet another account that i'll use and forget about :P
[16:29] <apachelogger> lol
[16:29] <apachelogger> uhm
[16:29] <apachelogger> actually that is not half bad a system there
[16:30] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: joined
[16:30] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: username is kshadeslayer
[16:33] <shadeslayer> "  - Add the Qt .a libraries, uikit platform plugin and libz (v1.2.3) to Frameworks"
[16:33] <shadeslayer> hmm
[16:34] <shadeslayer> aha
[16:36] <ScottK> Looks like maybe kdepim could use another cherrypick.
[16:36] <ScottK> I'd like to avoid the version bump to 4.7.2 though.
[16:36] <ScottK> Anyone up for that?
[16:36] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: http://cl.ly/2V2E0u463y1C0l2v2p1B >> uikit is already added
[16:41] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: wtf do i have to hand pick each .a file?
[16:41] <apachelogger> seems so
[16:41] <shadeslayer> :/
[16:41] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: what all libs do you use ?
[16:42] <apachelogger> declarative, gui, core, network
[16:42] <apachelogger> (I think)
[16:43] <shadeslayer> alright
[16:43] <shadeslayer> done
[16:43] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: you should be member of the team
[16:43] <apachelogger> inital code pushed too
[16:43] <apachelogger> bulldog98_: wanna be member too?
[16:44] <shadeslayer> yup
[16:44]  * apachelogger wonders if that site runs trac
[16:44] <bambee> evening
[16:47] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: now where do i find libz
[16:47] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: which libs?
[16:47] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: it has no deps other than Qt
[16:47] <shadeslayer> "  - Add the Qt .a libraries, uikit platform plugin and libz (v1.2.3) to Frameworks"
[16:48] <shadeslayer> By uikit platform plugin, it meant the .a file for the plugin right?
[16:48] <apachelogger> guess so
[16:52] <shadeslayer> everything is setup
[16:52] <shadeslayer> lol
[16:52] <shadeslayer> /Users/shadeslayer/kde/summit/../qt/src/plugins/platforms/uikit/examples/share/qmlapplicationviewer/qmlapplicationviewer.h:55:42: error: QtDeclarative/QDeclarativeView: No such file or directory
[16:52] <shadeslayer> clearly i did something wrong
[16:56] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: include path needs adding perhaps?
[16:56] <apachelogger> 				HEADER_SEARCH_PATHS = "\"$(SRCROOT)/../../../../../../../qt-lighthouse-ios-device/include\"/**";
[16:57] <shadeslayer> afaik i did that
[16:58] <shadeslayer> ah wait
[16:59] <shadeslayer> nope, didn't make a difference
[17:01] <apachelogger> well
[17:01] <apachelogger> where is QtDeclarative/QDeclarativeView in your lighthouse tree?
[17:02] <shadeslayer> /Users/shadeslayer/kde/qt-lighthouse-ios-simulator/include/QtDeclarative
[17:03] <shadeslayer> so i guess i need to replace device with simulator
[17:03] <apachelogger> not the slightest idea
[17:04] <shadeslayer> dunno, doesn't work either
[17:07] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: maybe ask in #qt-creator for eike, I think he is working on qt-creator, no idea if he hangs out on irc though
[17:07] <shadeslayer> he's online
[17:07] <shadeslayer> dunno if he'll reply
[17:50] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: scru this
[17:50] <shadeslayer> it's fricking confusing
[17:51] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: copy stuff from qmltest i'd say
[18:00] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: do whatever works :P
[18:03] <CIA-130> [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/kdelibs] Jonathan Kolberg * 382 * debian/ (7 files in 2 dirs) New upstream release
[18:08] <bulldog98_> apachelogger: member of what?
[18:08] <apachelogger> https://projects.developer.nokia.com/uds
[18:08] <apachelogger> bulldog98: btw, I tried on windows and it built just fine
[18:09] <bulldog98> apachelogger: username bulldog98
[18:18] <apachelogger> http://i.imgur.com/oNuGp.png
[18:19] <shadeslayer> naice
[18:22] <c_smith> hey, I have a question about Kubuntu 11.10 and a bug that is present in Kubuntu 11.04: is the Amarok bug with Ipod Nano 5G fixed with 11.10? or is that still going to be present? the bug is where users have to edit the  /lib/udev/rules.d/90_ligpod.rules file and add a line to it to get it to sync up with Amarok in Kubuntu 11.04
[18:31] <apachelogger> c_smith: best get a livecd and test?
[18:38] <c_smith> might as well, if I like it, might upgrade since I don't do anything that a beta would affect badly.
[18:39]  * yofel wonders whose idea solid_networkmanager09_fake.so was...
[18:41] <c_smith> well, better leave before I hinder the channel.
[18:48] <bulldog98> is there a way to forward a gpg agent over ssh?
[18:56] <shadeslayer> bulldog98: what are you trying to accomplish?
[18:57] <yofel> probably use his gpg agent on my server
[18:57] <bulldog98> shadeslayer: signing packages at yofel’s pc
[18:57] <shadeslayer> bulldog98: debsign -r
[18:57]  * yofel is clueless
[18:57] <bulldog98> shadeslayer: anything I have to setup for that?
[18:57] <apachelogger> bulldog98: debrsign
[18:57] <shadeslayer> bulldog98: debsign -r username@host:~/source.changes file
[18:57] <shadeslayer> bulldog98: for yofel's server? yes
[18:57] <shadeslayer> add a entry for his server in .ssh/config
[19:00] <bulldog98> shadeslayer: how can I ex a command on my ssh client, when being on the server?
[19:00] <shadeslayer> bulldog98: run the debsign from your PC
[19:01] <bulldog98> shadeslayer: but I want an shell script on yofel’s pc, to execute debsign on mine
[19:01] <shadeslayer> oh, the other way round?
[19:01] <apachelogger> bulldog98: that does not make sense
[19:01] <shadeslayer> what apachelogger said
[19:01] <bulldog98> shadeslayer: yes I don’t want to change the shell
[19:01] <yofel> or rather server -> home -> server
[19:02] <apachelogger> bulldog98: you want your pc to sign a file on yofel's server
[19:02] <yofel> don't think that works...
[19:02] <bulldog98> apachelogger: yes
[19:02] <apachelogger> which is what debrsign does
[19:02] <apachelogger> you invoke the command on *your* pc
[19:02] <bulldog98> but I want to tigger that form the remote pc
[19:02] <apachelogger> and tell it what file to sign on *yovi's* server
[19:02] <shadeslayer> bulldog98: why can't you do that locally ? :P
[19:02] <yofel> ...
[19:02] <shadeslayer> haha
[19:02] <yofel> and it was yofi IIRC
[19:02] <apachelogger> oh
[19:02] <bulldog98> shadeslayer: because I have to change the Shell
[19:03] <apachelogger> yeah, I have problems with characters like that
[19:03] <shadeslayer> uh, what
[19:03] <apachelogger> haha
[19:03] <apachelogger> easy peasy
[19:03] <apachelogger> from a ssh session on the server
[19:03] <apachelogger> back tunnel to the client (which of couse also needs an ssh server and open port)
[19:04] <apachelogger> then run the commands from within that ssh session
[19:04] <apachelogger> channel reusage for debrsign might be tricky though :P
[19:04] <CIA-130> [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/kde-runtime] Rohan Garg * 242 * debian/ (5 files in 2 dirs) * New upstream release - Drop 0001-Connect-to-the-right-object-jobView-instead-of-this.patch, applied upstream - Drop 0002-Fix-jobs-some-times-showing-empty.patch, applied upstream
[19:07] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: did you get something running yet?
[19:07] <shadeslayer> huh, i messed up versioning a bit, i accidently used ~ninja1~ppa1 for some reason :/
[19:07] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: nope, i gave up
[19:07] <shadeslayer> and OS X crashed
[19:07]  * apachelogger cries all over shadeslayer's nose
[19:08] <shadeslayer> don't ask me how, but, i managed to do that
[19:08] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: can you vnc me into your machine or something
[19:08] <apachelogger> the lack of iphone proof of concept makes me rather sad
[19:08] <shadeslayer> hmm, i can try, give me 20 minutes to set it up
[19:08] <apachelogger> kk
[19:09] <shadeslayer> it's going to be crappy btw :P
[19:09] <apachelogger> like anyone cares
[19:09] <apachelogger> bulldog98: btw, you should totally take over maintainership of the symbian uds ui :P
[19:09] <apachelogger> it is quite a PITA to not be able to test it on a device
[19:12] <CIA-130> [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/kde-workspace] Philip Muškovac * 575 * debian/ (38 files in 2 dirs) (log message trimmed)
[19:12] <CIA-130> * New upstream release - drop upstream patches 0001-*..0034-*
[19:12] <CIA-130> kubuntu_125_fix_kwin.diff kubuntu_krun_externalapps.diff
[19:19] <yofel> hm, now this is an interesting plasma crash
[19:20] <yofel> a) absolutely no useful stacktrace b) instead of putting one of my 2 panels with an offset from the screen edge, it just put them both on the same side, one over the other
[19:23] <CIA-130> [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/smokekde] Philip Muškovac * 9 * debian/changelog New upstream release
[19:31] <CIA-130> [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/marble] Jonathan Kolberg * 16 * debian/ (changelog control) * New upstream release * New upstream release
[19:35] <bulldog98> apachelogger: how do I set an ssh key, for git ssh?
[19:36] <yofel> bulldog98: should be like this I think in ~/.ssh/config
[19:36] <yofel> Host git.debian.org
[19:36] <yofel> IdentityFile ~/.ssh/id_dsa
[19:36] <yofel> User yofel-guest
[19:37] <bulldog98> yofel: I mean for developer.nokia.com :)
[19:37] <yofel> change the host?
[19:37] <bulldog98> yofel: no how do I tell developer.nokia.com the pub key
[19:38] <yofel> good question
[19:40] <CIA-130> [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/kdeadmin] Philip Muškovac * 133 * debian/ (changelog control) New upstream release
[19:47] <bulldog98> yofel: found https://projects.developer.nokia.com/home/prefs/ssh_keys
[20:03] <bulldog98> apachelogger: kdepim mobile is packaged
[20:09] <Quintasan> wendar: please let me know if my email made it to you, I was on a crappy connection back then
[20:10] <wendar> Quintasan: yes, got it, thanks
[20:10] <wendar> Quintasan: would you rather wait until you hear about the visa, or go ahead with the local option
[20:11] <CIA-130> [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/kdesdk] Philip Muškovac * 145 * debian/ (changelog control) New upstream release
[20:11] <wendar> Quintasan: (I've been in meetings all day, apologies for being slow)
[20:12] <Quintasan> wendar: I'd go ahead with the local option. It will be faster and with a bit of luck I might come to UDS with dualbooting device :)
[20:13] <wendar> Quintasan: okay, cool I'll call them tomorrow
[20:13] <wendar> Quintasan: if they have too much trouble with english, I can ask Magda to help
[20:14] <Quintasan> wendar: Well, let me know how it worked out with the shop. If they are babbling something about not knowing English then I'll smack them on my way there :P
[20:14] <wendar> Quintasan: :)
[20:14] <Quintasan> wendar: Magda? Hmm I remember hearing someone from Poland is working in Design Team. Is Magda the person I am thinking of?
[20:15]  * Quintasan laments his poor memory
[20:15] <wendar> Quintasan: she's in admin, rather than design
[20:15] <Quintasan> Oh. I see. Well, that should do the trick anyways :)
[20:15] <wendar> Quintasan: not sure about someone from Poland on the design team, I don't know all of them
[20:17] <Quintasan> wendar: Well, let me know how things work out.
[20:17] <wendar> Quintasan: will do
[20:17]  * Quintasan goes back to writing his assignment from Polish
[20:17] <Quintasan> Was due yesterday but...well...me being lazy etc.
[20:18] <shadeslayer> NSString *resourcePath = [[NSBundle mainBundle] resourcePath];
[20:18] <shadeslayer> Objective C looks cool
[20:19] <Quintasan> shadeslayer: ^^ that's the same for you, isn't it?  I usually have my English homework done by my minions at school
[20:20] <Quintasan> yofel: Where did I apologise? :P
[20:20] <yofel> true :D
[20:21] <shadeslayer> aahhhh
[20:21] <Quintasan> shadeslayer finally mastered the art of getting things done without touching them - if you didn't hear there is an assignment you don't have to do anything!
[20:21] <shadeslayer> yup
[20:23] <Quintasan> gah, seriously - back to work this time
[20:23] <shadeslayer> Quintasan: it's hard to keep away isn't it? :P
[20:23]  * shadeslayer has a big iPhone on his screen right now
[20:23] <Quintasan> Had it been maths I would have done it quickly
[20:24] <shadeslayer> i hate maths
[20:24] <shadeslayer> http://cl.ly/1k2i2j080c2R2z0Q271Q
[20:24] <Quintasan> But it's Polish and everything is sooooooo damn interesting compared to that
[20:24] <shadeslayer> Maths:Me :: Kryptonite:Superman
[20:25] <Quintasan> POLISH Y U NO LOGIC
[20:26] <apachelogger> bulldog98: it is?
[20:26] <apachelogger> where?
[20:26] <shadeslayer> I'm off to sleep, night guys
[20:26] <yofel> gn
[20:26] <apachelogger> bulldog98: ssh key is set in your account settings
[20:27] <bulldog98> apachelogger: yes kdepim-mobile
[20:27] <apachelogger> bulldog98: https://projects.developer.nokia.com/home/prefs/ssh_keys
[20:27] <bulldog98> apachelogger: I already found that, but thanks
[20:27] <apachelogger> >>> apt-cache show kdepim-mobile
[20:27] <apachelogger> N: Unable to locate package kdepim-mobile
[20:28] <Quintasan> shadeslayer: gn
[20:29] <Quintasan> apachelogger: I herd u has android app for UDS schedule
[20:29] <apachelogger> wanna develop it? :P
[20:29] <apachelogger> the ui that is
[20:29] <CIA-130> [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/kdewebdev] Philip Muškovac * 100 * debian/ (4 files) * New upstream release - Add documentation pictures to kimagemapeditor.install and klinkstatus.install
[20:29] <bulldog98> apachelogger: kontact-mobile is the name
[20:30] <Quintasan> apachelogger: You kidding me? It's Java. I ain't touching Javaz
[20:30] <apachelogger> no it is not
[20:30] <Quintasan> ?
[20:30] <apachelogger> https://projects.developer.nokia.com/uds/browser/qml/android
[20:30] <Quintasan> Oh, I'll consider it during the weekend
[20:30] <Quintasan> QML?
[20:30] <apachelogger> yus
[20:31]  * Quintasan looks at docs
[20:31] <Quintasan> Oh wait, two hours of Polish at Wednesday
[20:31] <Quintasan> apachelogger: I think I found time to read docs then
[20:31] <apachelogger> lol
[20:31] <apachelogger> :D
[20:32] <Quintasan> no, seriously. I usually fall asleep at those
[20:32] <Quintasan> like, two hours of this incomprehensible babbling
[20:32] <Quintasan> maths++
[20:35] <CIA-130> [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/blinken] Philip Muškovac * 12 * debian/ (changelog control) New upstream release
[20:42] <CIA-130> [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/kalzium] Philip Muškovac * 18 * debian/ (changelog control) New upstream release
[20:42] <ScottK> Quintasan: Could be worse.  I'm at an all week conference for $WORK.  40 hours of incomprehensible babble.
[20:50] <CIA-130> [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/kamera] Philip Muškovac * 13 * debian/ (changelog control) New upstream release
[20:52] <apachelogger> for some reason I just had to think of the doctor who episode where rose and the doctor watch the end of the world and for some reason the song tainted love gets played
[20:52] <apachelogger> quite the moment that was
[20:55] <CIA-130> [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/kalgebra] Philip Muškovac * 15 * debian/ (changelog control) New upstream release
[20:57] <ScottK> cyphermox: Does the KDE networkmanagement applet need a change like the one you just uploaded for the Gnome applet (the adhoc thing)?
[20:57] <cyphermox> ScottK: yes, that would be a good thing, since it does appear to be affected
[20:57] <cyphermox> I was looking into that
[20:58] <cyphermox> (just not all that familiar with that code so it's taking me longer)
[20:58] <ScottK> OK.  Great.  Glad you're working on it.
[20:58] <cyphermox> can I ping you later for sponsoring?
[20:59] <ScottK> You should rather ping someone else so I can accept it for the release team, but if no one else is around, sure.
[21:03] <phoenix_firebrd> Does the 11.10 need a dual core processor for smooth playback of audio?
[21:17] <CIA-130> [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/gwenview] Philip Muškovac * 25 * debian/ (changelog control gwenview.install) * New upstream release * Use wildcard in install file
[21:20] <CIA-130> [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/kdetoys] Philip Muškovac * 97 * debian/ (changelog control) New upstream release
[21:24] <CIA-130> [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/korundum] Philip Muškovac * 11 * debian/ (changelog control) New upstream release
[21:36] <CIA-130> [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/perlkde] Philip Muškovac * 10 * debian/ (changelog control) New upstream release
[21:49] <CIA-130> [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/kdenetwork] Philip Muškovac * 157 * debian/ (changelog control) New upstream release
[22:28] <CIA-130> [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/kdeartwork] Philip Muškovac * 122 * debian/ (changelog control) New upstream release
[22:28]  * yofel is off to bed - good night


[00:18] <ner0x> I'm getting an odd "session" pop-up screen stating I can join the "default" or create a new. Any way to wipe all session info or fix this?
[00:23] <ner0x> Might I add it keeps crasing (Leaving me to rejoin each time)
[00:38] <Monkeytoe> hello
[00:40] <Monkeytoe> I am trying to find a theme for xubuntu someone showed me a couple weeks back. It made xubuntu windows look like windows 8. I believe it was something like bogue orange. Does anyone know where I can download this theme?
[00:41] <ochosi> not really, but the standard sites would be xfce-look or deviantart
[00:41] <ochosi> you could check there
[00:41] <Monkeytoe> ok
[00:42] <maikeldaloo> I everyone :)
[00:43] <maikeldaloo> hi*
[00:44] <maikeldaloo> Is anyone around? I'm stuck with installing Vundle.. it keeps complaining about ^M characters.
[03:47] <ChogyDan> hey all, so, is there a way to have more text shown for my icons on the desktop?  Right now it is 3/4 of a line, and I'm used to something more like 2 lines
[03:48] <ChogyDan> does tha make sense?
[06:51] <nonuby> i ended up somehow breaking the login manager, ive reinstall xubuntu-desktop and lightdm but it is different than before (and thus like xfce power manager not working), whats the pacakage with default login manager?
[06:52] <cub> nonuby, do you mean it's different once you have logged in or the actual login screen?
[06:52] <nonuby> the actual login screen is different, i can stil get to xfce but things like power manager dont load
[06:53] <nonuby> i suspect in my pursuit of getting back to doing productive work ive installed the wrong login manager
[06:53] <cub> Ok, I thought you perhaps had changed the "Xubuntu Session" when logging in, quite common.
[06:53] <nonuby> on your setup what does dpkg -l | grep lightdm |grep ii show?
[06:54] <cub> I run Ubuntu Studio so it might not show the same as you want. :)
[07:51] <Pkunk> Is there anyway to get the xubuntu installer to install to software raid partitions ?
[07:52] <Pkunk> i used the "try ubuntu" option and then with mdadm created 2 raid1 arrays
[07:53] <well_laid_lawn> !raid
[07:53] <well_laid_lawn> Pkunk:  ↑
[07:55] <Pkunk> well the only solution ubuntu wiki's say is to use the "alternate" installer cd.. which means another 700MB download
[07:55] <Pkunk> is there any way i can apt-get the alternate debian installer which supports software raid ?
[07:56] <well_laid_lawn> you could try   apt-cache search install   and see what comes up
[07:57] <well_laid_lawn> I have no idea what it could be called
[13:56] <xubuntu413> hola!
[13:57] <xubuntu413> hi!
[13:58] <GridCube> !hi | xubuntu413
[13:58] <GridCube> !es | xubuntu413
[13:58] <GridCube> :)
[13:58] <xubuntu413> ok sorry
[13:58] <GridCube> :D no te preocupes
[14:01] <xubuntu413> well Im going to ask in english, or I'll try it hehe
[14:02] <xubuntu413> there are 2 problems with my laptop with linux
[14:02] <xubuntu413> xubuntu
[14:02] <xubuntu413> tI have two acounts and one of them I can't work because video problems
[14:03] <xubuntu413> and in the other one I can't hear anything, but in the guest's acount those problems don't exist!
[14:04] <xubuntu413> What can I do to solve it?
[14:39] <xubuntu832> Necesito que alguien me ayude. He reinstalado Ubuntu y me han borrado todas las fotos y videos que tenia en el ordenador. Alguien me puede esplicar como recuperarlos o como volver a la configuracion que el ordenador tenia antes de hacer la reinstalacion.
[14:41] <Kiyonich> english please
[14:41] <xubuntu832> Sorry i don't speek englis. don't study
[14:42] <koegs> !es | xubuntu832
[14:42] <xubuntu832> Tanks
[15:43] <noobuntu017> Hi  everybody
[15:43] <knome> noobuntu017, hello
[15:45] <noobuntu017> i have a problem with a extension of my apache2    :  mcrypt
[15:47] <noobuntu017> i have install it by software center /uninstall reinstall it by apt-get
[15:48] <knome> can you describe the problem itself?
[15:49] <noobuntu017> i need it for a cms Open Classifieds
[15:50] <knome> that's not the problem, that's the goal
[15:52] <noobuntu017> ok my problem is that after install the extension it dont look like to be load in apache (noob view of course)
[15:52] <knome> have you restarted apache after you installed the extension?
[15:53] <noobuntu017> of course
[15:54] <noobuntu017> i take a look in /etc/php5/conf.d/mcrypt.ini      seem to be good
[15:57] <lderan> if it enabled in the php.ini file?
[15:57] <lderan> is*
[15:59] <noobuntu017> not know          here i am /etc/php5/apache2/
[16:02] <koegs> did you install php5-mcrypt and afterwards restart apache?
[16:03] <noobuntu017> yes restart apache many time
[16:06] <koegs> and how do you know mcrypt is not loaded?
[16:10] <lderan> if you put <?php phpinfo(INFO_MODULES); ?> into a test php file, it should output all the modules loaded by your php
[16:17] <noobuntu017> Loaded Modules 	core mod_so mod_watchdog http_core mod_log_config mod_logio mod_version mod_unixd mod_unixd mod_access_compat mod_alias mod_auth_basic mod_authn_core mod_authn_file mod_authz_core mod_authz_host mod_authz_user mod_autoindex mod_deflate mod_dir mod_env mod_filter mod_mime prefork mod_negotiation mod_php5 mod_rewrite mod_setenvif mod_status
[16:22] <noobuntu017> have to  leave   see it later thanks for all
[16:28] <xubuntu043> join # xubuntu-es
[16:35] <xubuntu443> hello, good day everyone i need some help i am new ar xubuntu actually just finished installing it a few minutos ago, the thing is that i cannot see any vid on the browser, youtube for example does not display vids properly can some  body help me to fix this please?
[16:37] <Sysi> install xubuntu-restricted-extras or flashplugin-installer
[16:39] <xubuntu443> excellent thanks
[17:19] <num7> Hi, can somebody help me please, to fix this issue, cause i have no sound on my xubuntu (3.8.0-27-generic)...
[17:23] <num7> my xubuntu version is 13.04
[17:49] <luisssss> good afeternoon i like to ask for help i just installed xubuntu 13.04 a couple hours ago, then i did asked in here for help since browser is not displaying vids properly and some one told me to sinatll xubuntu-restricted-extras and flashplugin and so i did but i do still have the same problem here is how ithe browser display vids: http://postimg.org/image/hwwkj6o7j/4ed01c21/  can come body help me to fix this problem please?
[17:53] <pmjdebruijn> what graphics card do you have?
[17:55] <pmjdebruijn> but to be honest I have no clue how to fix it... if nobody else knows, you might want to try xubuntu 12.04.3 which will be released in two days though
[17:55] <pmjdebruijn> oh wait... ubuntu 12.04.3 will be released in two days... I guess the xubuntu variant will be a tad later
[17:56] <GridCube> luisssss: try disabling the hardware acceleration from flash
[17:56] <luisssss> intel corporation 82845G/GL Chipset Integrated Graphic Device VGA Vontroller
[17:58] <luisssss> i went into youtube to see what you say Grid but it wont respond
[17:58] <pmjdebruijn> btw, that's a really old chip, right?
[17:58] <luisssss> let me try another way
[17:59] <luisssss> it is a dinosaur
[17:59] <luisssss> but is all i got
[17:59] <pmjdebruijn> heh right
[17:59] <pmjdebruijn> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Testing/IntelSNA you might want to read that
[17:59] <pmjdebruijn> grep "SNA init" /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[17:59] <pmjdebruijn> try that
[18:00] <pmjdebruijn> what does that say?
[18:01] <luisssss> it says i need to donwload som xorg
[18:02] <pmjdebruijn> huh?
[18:02] <pmjdebruijn> grep "SNA init" /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[18:02] <pmjdebruijn> that should return a single line, please paste it here
[18:02] <luisssss> okgive me a sec
[18:03] <luisssss> [    24.481] (II) intel(0): SNA initialized with gen2 backend
[18:03] <pmjdebruijn> right
[18:03] <luisssss> thats what it says
[18:03] <pmjdebruijn> http://askubuntu.com/questions/292224/ubuntu-13-04-bad-3d-performance-of-intel-ironlake see second comment
[18:03] <pmjdebruijn> the xorg.conf one
[18:05] <GridCube> luisssss: if you add to the youtube url &html5=True to fore it to html5 and use no flash?
[18:05] <pmjdebruijn> depending on the video
[18:05] <luisssss> uuuuu and how fo i do that? sorry is like i do not know much of those terms
[18:05] <peyam> I made a panel (vertical) I want to have smooth corner. how do I do it?
[18:06] <pmjdebruijn> luisssss: exactly like it says there # gksudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[18:07] <pmjdebruijn> paste that content (make sure it's exactly right), and save it, then reboot
[18:07] <luisssss> o do not have a "xorg.cong" file
[18:07] <pmjdebruijn> luisssss: it says "create" there doesn't it
[18:08] <luisssss> right
[18:08] <luisssss> i do that then i fopy what it says on the ling you gave me right?
[18:08] <pmjdebruijn> # gksudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[18:08] <pmjdebruijn> on the terminal
[18:08] <pmjdebruijn> and then paste the config snippet in there and save it
[18:09] <pmjdebruijn> the Section...EndSection bit
[18:09] <luisssss> done
[18:09] <pmjdebruijn> only the Section...EndSection bit?
[18:10] <pmjdebruijn> luisssss: ?
[18:11] <pmjdebruijn> anyhow, if that's done, you need to restart X11, the easiest and most reliable way of doing that, is by simply rebooting your machine
[18:14] <luisssss> sorry i was having some issue any way is done
[18:14] <pmjdebruijn> did you reboot as well?
[18:15] <luisssss> mp
[18:15] <luisssss> not yet let me do it and see how it goes
[18:15] <luisssss> brb
[18:20] <luisssss> o am bacj and no difference at all
[18:21] <luisssss> vids still looks the same on browser
[18:21] <pmjdebruijn> hmmm no clue then sorry
[18:21] <pmjdebruijn> oh wait, just to be sure
[18:21] <pmjdebruijn> grep "SNA init" /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[18:21] <pmjdebruijn> what does that return now
[18:23] <luisssss> [    24.553] (II) intel(0): SNA initialized with gen2 backend
[18:23] <pmjdebruijn> ok, that's not good
[18:23] <pmjdebruijn> what does cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[18:23] <pmjdebruijn> say
[18:23] <pmjdebruijn> paste it on pastebin.com
[18:25] <Jakub> hi
[18:27] <Jakub> hey
[18:28] <luisssss> http://pastebin.ca/2434858
[18:28] <Jakub> any people from CZECH REPUBLIC?
[18:29] <Jakub> ohh... okay :D
[18:29] <bazhang> !cz
[18:29] <Jakub> I have problem wit Xubuntu :/
[18:30] <Jakub> I have old PC
[18:30] <pmjdebruijn> luisssss: you didn't do what it said
[18:30] <Jakub> with 1GB RAM 2,6 Intel pentium processor
[18:30] <luisssss> o dod copy and paste what it says on the link you gave me
[18:30] <luisssss> guess i did it wrong
[18:30] <bazhang> whats the problem Jakub
[18:30] <luisssss> sorry
[18:31] <pmjdebruijn> luisssss: do page said something else
[18:31] <pmjdebruijn> luisssss: Copy Section...EndSection
[18:31] <luisssss> can you gace me the link again please?
[18:31] <pmjdebruijn> http://askubuntu.com/questions/292224/ubuntu-13-04-bad-3d-performance-of-intel-ironlake
[18:31] <luisssss> that page was created by me
[18:31] <luisssss> it wasnt there
[18:32] <Unit193> luisssss: Put http://paste.openstack.org/show/GLdP2z6nmWxKRpzVIBMv in /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[18:32] <luisssss> pl
[18:32] <luisssss> ok
[18:32] <Jakub> its... windows of the browser etd.. its ...     Bugg :D light bugg
[18:32] <Jakub> :/
[18:32] <Jakub> and on pannel too :(
[18:33] <pmjdebruijn> Unit193: please wait, one thing at a time
[18:33] <Jakub> and pc is very slowly :( its normal ?
[18:34] <pmjdebruijn> luisssss: http://pastebin.com/rU1Kxdij it should be like that
[18:34] <bazhang> Jakub, try lubuntu and see
[18:34] <Jakub> Okay
[18:34] <Jakub> Thank :)
[18:34] <Jakub> Bye ;)
[18:34] <bazhang> sudo apt-get install lubuntu-desktop Jakub
[18:34] <Unit193> pmjdebruijn: uxa in theory isn't as fast, and last I tried uxa didn't work and fell back to SNA anyway.
[18:34] <Jakub> okay
[18:34] <pmjdebruijn> Unit193: this is about display corruption
[18:34] <bazhang> Jakub, then choose from the login window
[18:35] <pmjdebruijn> Unit193: so performs seems like a completely secondary concern
[18:35] <Unit193> pmjdebruijn: That's exactly what I'm talking about...
[18:35] <pmjdebruijn> Unit193: the bitdepth stuff really fixed it for you?
[18:35] <Unit193> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-video-intel/+bug/1173649
[18:35] <Unit193> Flash doesn't handle it well at all, 11.8 flash does better though.
[18:37] <luisssss> ok done
[18:37] <pmjdebruijn> luisssss: well then reboot, and if that doesn't work Unit193 has an alternate approach
[18:38] <pmjdebruijn> luisssss: Unit193's approach might be better with regard to performance
[18:38] <luisssss> that last link does not work pmjdeb
[18:38] <pmjdebruijn> what link?
[18:39] <luisssss> http://pastebin.com/rU1Jxdij
[18:39] <pmjdebruijn> that's because there's a typo
[18:39] <pmjdebruijn> http://pastebin.com/rU1Kxdij
[18:40] <luisssss>  http://pastebin.com/rU1Kxdij
[18:40] <luisssss> does not work
[18:40] <pmjdebruijn> that one does for me
[18:40] <knome> me too.
[18:40] <luisssss> this is what i get: Server not found                                                                Firefox can't find the server at pastebin.com+
[18:41] <pmjdebruijn> then I guess then you're having DNS problems?
[18:41] <luisssss> without the "+"
[18:41] <luisssss> ok thats another issue
[18:41] <pmjdebruijn> anyhow, I'm out of time now
[18:41] <pmjdebruijn> good luck
[18:41] <luisssss> first thin first
[19:02] <luisssss> hello again pmdjdeb and Unit193 can you give the links you gave awhile ago please?
[19:03] <Unit193> http://paste.openstack.org/show/GLdP2z6nmWxKRpzVIBMv
[19:03] <Unit193> or https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-video-intel/+bug/1173649 ?
[19:04] <luisssss> than k you very much i just want to boomark them they did fic the problem thank you very much guys
[19:05] <Unit193> Sure.  The first one is the uncommented part of my own xorg.conf file.
[19:07] <luisssss> well it did the magic thank you guys you just brought my old pc back to life :P
[19:16] <nasir> i need help using squid to filter the web
[19:19] <nasir> i need help using squid to filter the web
[19:26] <bazhang> try #squid
[20:37] <strap> hi, can someone help me with efibootmgr?
[20:37] <HisaoNakai> strap: Try #ubuntu o_o
[20:37] <strap> ok
[20:39] <alexgaff> héllo!
[21:47] <Chaser> Hello does the crash bug reporter in xubuntu send the reports to anywhere ?
[21:47] <holstein> !bug
[21:48] <Chaser> thank you.
[22:20] <ner0x> Afternoon all. Anyone around? I'm having some odd session issues.
[22:22] <holstein> just ask
[22:22] <genii> !details
[22:26] <ner0x> Well it goes to  this new "Default session" or create new session. Unfortunately it loads on a screen that it hasn't "booted" yet. I use dual monitors and it's on the right one. The only one "active" is the left. Not sure why but this is how it's been for the past day.
[22:26] <ner0x> Xubuntu 13.04
[22:29] <ner0x> I've had this issue since I installed. It doesn't "load" my second screen on boot. It's like there's a 15 minute "warmup" period before it shows it's there.
[22:29] <holstein> installed what?
[22:29] <ner0x> xubuntu 13.04
[22:30] <holstein> what has been happening for the past day?
[22:34] <ner0x> holstein: Well since I've installed it's been ignoring the right screen for about fifteen minutes and then I have to manually change the x config with nvidia-settings
[22:34] <ner0x> holstein: Now it's coming up with this "session" dialog where the username selection dialog used to be. It has a "default" session or I can create a new one.
[22:35] <Sysi> you've slected to have session selection menu at login (in session settings), for dualhead you need to either use xorg.conf file or xrandr script
[22:36] <ner0x> Sysi: I do use xorg.conf and it completely ignores it.
[22:37] <holstein> ner0x: you installed 15 minutes ago?
[22:38] <ner0x> holstein: No. I'm saying it ignores the right screen for 15 minutes after boot as if it's having a "warmup" time.
[22:39] <ner0x> holstein: And since that "session" dialog is showing up on that screen rather than the left... it's rather annoying.
[22:40] <ner0x> holstein: Okay it finally "warmed up" I'm getting a gtk dialog that says "Default: Last access: <DATE>" and I have the option to logout and start a new session.
[22:43] <holstein> ner0x: i would just blow out that session.. if i didnt want to, i would make a new users and test..
[22:44] <ner0x> holstein: How do I even delete the session?
[22:44] <ner0x> holstein: Not an option in the list.
[22:52] <w30> ner0x, I had a single monitor do that. Times got longer and longer then failed after about 3 months. Switch monitors and see if trouble follows the actual physical monitor.
[22:52] <ner0x> w30: I think it is the monitor but haven't wanted to spend the cash to get a new one.
[22:52] <ner0x> w30: Realistically I do think it's the monitor.
[22:53] <w30> ner0x, something to do with the software that shuts down the display if not having a signal.
[22:54] <w30> ner0x, at first a quick on and off with the switch would jog it to life.
[22:56] <w30> ner0x, I took the monitor apart to see if it could be hotwired but the switch had about 10 wires going to it plus a little board
[22:56]  * w30 sighs
[23:20] <ner0x> w30: I'll look into getting new monitors. Thank you sir.
[23:47] <xubuntu772> hey
[23:48] <xubuntu772> ...
[23:48] <xubuntu772> heeey???