[17:19] <Dr_willis> kav,  last i looked.. casper-rw was a file the live-cd used.. not a partition.
[17:20] <XavierCosta> Sorry L3top, didn't uderstood
[17:20] <kav> actually , i called it a partiton which work like a file
[17:20] <Dr_willis> http://www.pendrivelinux.com/tag/resize-casper-rw/
[17:20] <Dr_willis> you called it a partition? Thats not making sence..
[17:21] <semitones> Hey you guys -- theme question here: whenever I move the window buttons in gconf-editor, they revert to their previous state upon restart. Any ideas why this happens?
[17:21] <kav> Sorry ! but for me , its a partition , becz it don't work for me
[17:21] <kav> if it work then only then i call it a file
[17:21] <Dr_willis> http://www.pendrivelinux.com/create-a-larger-than-4gb-casper-partition/
[17:22] <kav> i already used your links
[17:22] <XavierCosta> L3top, what do you mean logged in as root?
[17:22] <asad2005> zykotick9: i have removed the added PPA from synaptic and did an update, now using ppa-purge gives this error "Could not find package list for PPA" is my system now screwed ?
[17:22] <kav> Dr_willis  . ...  I already used them
[17:22] <zykotick9> asad2005: probably... you needed to use ppa-purge first.  add the PPAs back would be my suggestion.
[17:23] <Dr_willis> I never use the live-setup. I always do full normal installs to my flash drive. Much more flexiable
[17:23] <zykotick9> Dr_willis: +1
[17:23] <asad2005> zykotick9: ok i will try thanks
[17:23] <kav> O ! but i want to try this one
[17:23] <Dr_willis> check the label and the fs of the partition. perhaps you made a mistake.
[17:24] <kav> casper-rw is working but not like that   , it work like a partition not like a file
[17:24] <L3top> Ok XavierCosta.  sudo lshw -class network | grep serial
[17:25] <nannes> semitones: Ubuntu & gnome version please..
[17:26] <semitones> 12.04, unity
[17:26] <kav> Dr_willis
[17:26] <BluesKaj> zykotick9,  usually i just go into  /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ and delete the ppas there , just to make sure
[17:26] <L3top> XavierCosta: do that again and kill the grep. That wasn't a very clever command. so sudo lshw -class network
[17:26] <kav> Dr_willis   : how to use casper-rw
[17:26] <Matt___> hello
[17:27] <kav> nannes  : can you help me
[17:27] <zykotick9> BluesKaj: if you have package installed from the PPA - that's a bad idea
[17:27] <IngCr3at1on> I probably belong in a different channel but I'm hoping someone can help me anyway; I got a new monitor yesterday works great but it seems some of the blacks (menu generated not page or terminal) are speckled with red dots... this is 12.04 gnome3; using an nvidia geforce gt220 with a samsung sms23a550h... I should point out it doesn't show in my other OS (sorry for long post)
[17:27] <nikulas> I have some question, is Ubuntu Software Center down? Because I can only download specific programs like vlc, but I get error from trying install Clementine.  E: Unable to fetch some archives, maybe run apt-get update or try with --fix-missing?
[17:28] <Dr_willis> kav,  check with the blkid command and sudo fdisk -l to verify the filesystem and label of the partition.
[17:28] <XavierCosta> L3top -> sudo lshw -class network | grep serial -> I didn't gave this command yet, this one is the one that you where saying it was not very clever?
[17:28] <BluesKaj> zykotick9, yes agreed , but of course I would have removed the package already
[17:29] <ericus> Any ideas on this? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=12062967#post12062967
[17:29] <kav> o god !
[17:29] <kav> kav@ubuntu:~$ df -h
[17:29] <kav> Filesystem      Size  Used Avail Use% Mounted on
[17:29] <Daxter> nikulas: run the command suggested in terminal
[17:29] <kav> /cow            2.0G  1.4G  471M  75% /
[17:29] <kav> udev            999M  4.0K  999M   1% /dev
[17:29] <FloodBot1> kav: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:29] <kav> tmpfs           403M  868K  402M   1% /run
[17:29] <L3top> XavierCosta: I just want to confirm that serial: 00:24:81:6b:63:6e is under description: Ethernet interface     and description: Wireless interface  is 00:21:00:da:87:28
[17:29] <Dr_willis> kav,  time you learned to use the pastebin command/site i think...
[17:29] <L3top> XavierCosta: sudo lshw -class network
[17:30] <kav> pastetime sucks
[17:30] <kav> ok next time
[17:30] <Dr_willis> patebin is very useable.. very much so if you expect to stay on this channel..
[17:30] <dalton2345> ok its good now, just because my mp# player was connected lol
[17:30] <kav> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1066411/plain/    , your file
[17:30] <semitones> nannes: any ideas?
[17:30] <IngCr3at1on> I've been sitting here playing with every refresh rating and driver setting I can think and nothing seems to make a difference, it's kind of obnoxious lol
[17:31] <kav> ok ! sorry
[17:31] <kav> Dr_willis   : sorry
[17:31] <himanshu_m786> hi , i want help relating emacs . i have downloaded multiple color-theme-***.el and stored in ~/.emacs/ and also in ~/emacs.d/
[17:31] <himanshu_m786> too. and when try selecting theme using M-x color-theme- there is no names of the theme that i have kept .... so can anyone help me installing the theme.
[17:31] <Dr_willis> kav,  some forum threads on the topic here -> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1629477
[17:31] <XavierCosta> L3top -> done, want me to paste it?
[17:31] <L3top> IngCr3at1on: lspci -nn | grep VGA
[17:31] <L3top> XavierCosta: I just want to confirm that serial: 00:24:81:6b:63:6e is under description: Ethernet interface and description: Wireless interface is 00:21:00:da:87:28
[17:32] <nannes> semitones: sorry, afk. Anyway, you mean those buttons for window-closing-maximizing ecc? or others?
[17:32] <semitones> nannes: yep those
[17:32] <semitones> nannes: i can move them with gconf-editor, but they move back every time i restart
[17:33] <Dr_willis> kav,  you DID rename/move your existing casper-rw file? so it uses the partition instead?
[17:33] <nannes> semitones: hmmm weird
[17:33] <nannes> I think you'll have to modify the config file by hand
[17:34] <kav> let me try this
[17:34] <kav> if it works then thanks
[17:34] <Sanky> Hello, I've just installed 12.4 on a laptop using an USB stick, but for some reason the fresh install doesn't recognize any USB devices (mice, flash drives...)
[17:34] <IngCr3at1on> L3top 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: NVIDIA Corporation GT216 [GeForce GT 220] [10de:0a20] (rev a2)
[17:35] <Sanky> nothing shows up in dmesg at all when I plug it in or out
[17:35] <meisth0th> hello
[17:35] <XavierCosta> L3top -> http://pastebin.com/mSPvq7j8
[17:35] <semitones> nannes: do you know what the file is called
[17:35] <meisth0th> is this right place to ask question about python and gtk3?
[17:36] <Pici> meisth0th: if its a programming question, #python would be better.
[17:36] <glitsj16> semitones: have you tried dconf settings as well? org.gnome.desktop.wm.preferences has button-layout stanzas cfr gconf
[17:36] <meisth0th> Pici, i tried
[17:37] <meisth0th> let me ask, i have a gtkwindow object and i want to hide an inner element of that window
[17:37] <semitones> glitsj16: I'll try // last time I didn't find any button layout in dconf
[17:37] <meisth0th> how can access to the inner container of a gtkwindow object is the question
[17:38] <glitsj16> semitones: i assume you're on 12.04 .. if so they should be there
[17:39] <ericus> Any ideas on this? Kind of stuck http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=12062967#post12062967
[17:39] <ohinem> Всем привет
[17:39] <zykotick9> !ru | ohinem
[17:39] <nannes> semitones: oooooh maybe you have ubuntu tweak or any other application that's about that function? Well, probably it's it
[17:40] <semitones> glitsj16: They are there, thanks a lot! I just clicked the button "set to default" --feels good man :)
[17:40] <ohinem> Hello
[17:40] <nannes> oh okk
[17:40] <semitones> glitsj16: I'd like to put that information on the internet somewhere so other people can find it
[17:40] <kav> hello
[17:40] <nannes> semitones: try in http://ask.ubuntu.com
[17:40] <nannes> semitones: give the problem and answer yourself
[17:41] <kav> haha... Nice nannes
[17:42] <squev> so, it seems like the grub2 os prober cant handle efi?
[17:42] <Dr_willis> theres a efi grub2 i thought
[17:43] <squev> well basically, I installed Ubuntu, over Mint
[17:43] <squev> and now I cant work out how to boot into Windows7
[17:43] <Jacruth> when I plug my headphone, the speakers still sounds and there is no sound from the jack.
[17:43] <squev> (its on another drive)
[17:43] <L3top> XavierCosta: replace /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules with http://pastebin.com/KJ7C5NA2   then sudo chmod 644 /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules     then     sudo chown root: /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules
[17:43] <Dr_willis> squev,  'over mint' meaning You reforamted the mint parttions? or what exactly?
[17:44] <squev> I just told ubuntu to delete that was on that drive
[17:44] <squev> just right over it
[17:44] <dobby156> squev: write
[17:44] <squev> dobby156: what
[17:44] <squev> dobby156: also, I meant right
[17:44] <Dr_willis> so the whole over mint.. is useless info. :) if you formated the drives..
[17:44] <Dr_willis> So what does the system do when it boots? are you sure its booting the right hard drive?
[17:45] <squev> Dr_willis: so yes reformated or whatever
[17:45] <squev> says EFI file not found
[17:45] <Dr_willis> squev,  so what kind of pc are you using?
[17:46] <L3top> IngCr3at1on: I am assuming that you have installed nvidia-current and are changing settings in the nvidia configure console?
[17:46] <IngCr3at1on> correct
[17:46] <litropy> Yeesh .. XavierCosta still has issues. All because of an upgrade? What did it do, blank out any mention of his wifi card and twist his ethernet card's route from hardware to OS?
[17:47] <Jacruth> I'm using this: http://pastebin.com/K5Tt2WMW
[17:47] <litropy> XavierCosta, how did you upgrade?
[17:47] <lajeeb> .
[17:48] <L3top> IngCr3at1on: Ok... I do not use that thing, I only know how to configure these things manually using depreciated methods. Do you have an /etc/X11/xorg.conf file? and what are you trying to achieve?
[17:49] <squev> hm, my windows install might need to be changed to EFI somehow
[17:49] <Dr_willis> I dident think windows systems used EFI at least not commonly
[17:50] <Jacruth> This is my LSMOD: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1066440/
[17:50] <PRabyte>  am having a real hard time saving my compiz settings after logging out. it appears gconf holds the files and i am using a gnome desktop on 10.04 LTS Ubuntu. i loaded the simple and ccsm. i have also looked at - http://wiki.compiz.org/CCSM/  and it doesn't explain how to retain settings with a gnome desktop clearly. could someone clue me in, thanks. ps. i'd like to retain the cube configs i have to change each time or enable when i l
[17:50] <IngCr3at1on> settings should be saved to one, I'll pull it up; I have a dual monitor configuration using twinview. Primary samsung monitor should be on 1920x1080 and the secondary (ancient dell monitor) should be on 1024x768
[17:50] <kav> compiz --replace
[17:50] <squev> Dr_willis: well it seems like they are
[17:50] <PRabyte> perms are correct for .gconf and im using only one user account. i am also able to change the settings, but they do not retain..
[17:50] <IngCr3at1on> not sure what else you mean
[17:50] <PRabyte> kav: whats that do, exactly, thanks
[17:51] <emel> Hi
[17:51] <kav> retain your compiz to intial position
[17:51] <Dr_willis> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFIBooting
[17:51] <PRabyte> there seems to be an issue between ccsm, sccsm, and right clicking desktop and changing that way. like they are all trying to do the same thing
[17:52] <IngCr3at1on> L3top -> http://pastebin.com/0ZcGPV4B
[17:52] <PRabyte> i have tried -replace before, i logged out and again, did not retain settings
[17:52] <kav> PRabyte   : alt + ctr +f1 ---> shutdown -r now
[17:52] <IngCr3at1on> those settings are what I want... apart from the red speckles lol
[17:53] <Dr_willis> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/grub2/+bug/957277
[17:53] <XavierCosta> litropy, just a moment, i will reply to you in a moment
[17:53] <kav> try restart then tell me
[17:53] <PRabyte> ok, here is what i will do, i will goto the desktop way, change it to none, then goto ccsm and make my changes to a new profile and save to .profile in home/dir. than i will issue that command, then reboot, ill be back
[17:54] <dobby156> squev: you should post on the forum in detail, listing EVERYTHING
[17:54] <kav> ok
[17:54] <PRabyte> i really feel these 3 programs are all conflicting each other
[17:54] <Dr_willis> !info grub-efi
[17:54] <squev> dobby156: why are you here
[17:54] <PRabyte> but the -replace may work, however, it may only use the gconf settings, and not the new.profile settings.
[17:54] <PRabyte> lets find out
[17:54] <PRabyte> brb
[17:54] <XavierCosta> L3top. as I said, on that folder i have no file named 70-persistent-net.rules ,only one named 70-persistent-cd.rules . I'm trying to create a new one with that name but I'm not being allowed
[17:54] <dobby156> squev: long story
[17:55] <kav> ok dokie
[17:55] <Dr_willis> squev,  if you are sure you are on an EFI system try installing the uefi-grub perhaps.
[17:55] <squev> wellit's currently booting into EFI
[17:55] <squev> but I dont think it was with Mint
[17:55] <L3top> that is what I am saying XavierCosta. Create the file someplace you have permission, move it there with sudo mv and do the chmod chown detailed above.
[17:55] <kav> Dr_willis : hey you forget me
[17:55] <L3top> gimme a second IngCr3at1on
[17:55] <dobby156> squev: are you sure that is Ubuntu is using EFI
[17:55] <IngCr3at1on> np, thanks for the help
[17:55] <AssociateX> L3top, where is libflashplayer.so located on your system again?
[17:55] <kav> Dr_willis  : you don't solve my problem
[17:56] <Dr_willis> kav,  ive basically said all i know on the topic of casper-rw
[17:56] <lukibeni> bye
[17:56] <squev> dobby156: pretty sure
[17:56] <kav> O !
[17:56] <squev> dobby156: /sys/firmware/efi exists
[17:56] <kav> ok ! Dr_willis
[17:56] <Dr_willis> you sayd you were going to try somtning.. and then that was it..
[17:56] <L3top> /usr/lib/flashplugin-installer/libflashplayer.so AssociateX
[17:56] <AssociateX> L3top, thank you
[17:56] <dobby156> squev: what about windows is that EFI for sure?
[17:56] <squev> dobby156: no, I dont think it is
[17:56] <squev> thats the problem
[17:57] <squev> I might reinstall ubuntu.. with BIOS
[17:57] <kav> that link related to live CD
[17:57] <dobby156> may you just need to install grb-bios
[17:57] <squev> oh, maybe
[17:57] <L3top> IngCr3at1on: can you please pastebin the output of xrandr --verbose
[17:57] <dobby156> squev: is /home separate from /
[17:57] <kav> Dr_willis  : i need for live usb
[17:58] <PRabyte> kav: uh oh
[17:58] <Dr_willis> kav,  that statment makes no sence..
[17:58] <squev> dobby156: no
[17:58] <squev> dobby156: i just elt ubunutu decide that
[17:58] <kav> ok !
[17:58] <PRabyte> kav http://paste.ubuntu.com/1066454/
[17:58] <dobby156> squev: have you checked they are actually difference
[17:58] <PRabyte> error
[17:58] <squev> dobby156: checked what?
[17:58] <PRabyte> ur thoughts? kav
[17:58] <IngCr3at1on> L3top: http://pastebin.com/LKscb82i
[17:58] <dobby156> squev: well do you know that ubuntu does partition?
[17:59] <kav> try comiz --replace
[17:59] <squev> dobby156: i dont have a partitoon for home
[17:59] <dobby156> squev: damn ubuntu is worse than I thought
[17:59] <kav>  " - - "   squeeze the space between them
[17:59] <dulio> squev: are you reinstalling your ubuntu?
[17:59] <Dr_willis> a /home on its own partition is not a default setup. ;) but its easially done.
[17:59] <kav> compiz  - - replace
[18:00] <squev> dulio: not yet
[18:00] <kav> then press ctrl + N
[18:00] <squev> dulio: going to see ifI can just install grub2 bios
[18:00] <IngCr3at1on> Oo  apparently the speckles show up in pictures to, I hadn't noticed
[18:00] <SolarisBoy> ?
[18:00] <dobby156> squev: back that shit up first incase the replacing of grub fails, then you can just wipe the system
[18:01] <dulio> squev: Is grub2 in partition?
[18:01] <squev> dulio: what do you mean?
[18:01] <squev> how do I cgheck what grub2 package I have installed?
[18:01] <kav> PRabyte  : 1.     compiz --replace
[18:01] <kav> 2. ctrl + N
[18:02] <kav> PRabyte : is this  open a new window
[18:02] <squev> dobby156: where would I backup to
[18:02] <dobby156> squev: my server would work
[18:02] <dulio> squev: I'm confusd
[18:02] <L3top> IngCr3at1on: this is mine, on one screen... and I would expect to see something similar only more, and in duplicate. I do not think that your EDID data is being read, and it simply cannot give you the res you want, pinning both of them there.
[18:02] <dobby156> squev: actually I can use this freeNAS box
[18:03] <PRabyte> kav: that is what happened before, that error, the windows lost total functionality, and a reboot was necessary. and.... yes... it didnt work for what i asked before
[18:03] <squev> dobby156: theres basically nothing on here anyway
[18:03] <dobby156> squev: usb key
[18:03] <dobby156> squev: food is proably ready
[18:03] <squev> probs
[18:04] <IngCr3at1on> I'm not sure I'm understanding; they show the right resolutions, I just think the refresh is off or something on the one
[18:04] <kav> PRabyte  : O ! but every time it work for me
[18:04] <AssociateX> It's official, I give up. Flash on Knoppix didn't work and yeah, the plugin was installed. I just hand installed 228 version and nothing. I'm fairly confident something is wrong with my hardware.
[18:04] <PRabyte> in a nutshell, i believe the compiz settings for ccsm, sccsm, and gnome gconf are all fighting to control desktop env. what is the best consistant way to retain compiz cube settings so i dont have to manually enable them each time i log off. thanks.
[18:05] <PRabyte> i would also like skydome, but the ubuntu defaults dont allow for those settings using the right click method on desktop > visual effects > custom
[18:05] <XavierCosta> L3top -> it's the first time i'm using comand line, I'm not keen at it. Can you teach me how you use the sudo mv command?
[18:06] <jagginess> XavierCosta, man mv
[18:06] <MonkeyDust> PRabyte  normally you shouldnt have to, i have it enabled (for testing purposes) and it works fine
[18:06] <PRabyte> how did you config it MonkeyDust
[18:06] <MonkeyDust> PRabyte  though I don't like/use compiz
[18:06] <L3top> IngCr3at1on: your xorg.conf shows that you have ONE monitor set, the other cloning it... and that monitor is the ancient dell... and this 	# HorizSync source: edid, VertRefresh source: edid          backs up my theory that edid simply cannot be read.
[18:06] <MonkeyDust> PRabyte  using ccsm
[18:06] <PRabyte> what is your desktop manager MonkeyDust
[18:06] <L3top> where is the new file you created XavierCosta?
[18:07] <PRabyte> i have none selected for right click desktop method i described
[18:07] <PRabyte> MonkeyDust: may i see your .profile or .compiz settings?
[18:07] <PRabyte> pastebin MonkeyDust
[18:07] <fuzzynurfhurter> i cannot get ubuntu software center to download anything cant find the packages
[18:07] <PRabyte> or gconf MonkeyDust
[18:08] <XavierCosta> L3top - >home/xavier
[18:08] <PRabyte> fuzzynurfhurter: you have internet, so it must be settings for sources are not selected. something along those lines, or you have no perms to do so.. my two guesses
[18:08] <PRabyte> fuzzynurfhurter: no repos defined in software sources
[18:09] <PRabyte> fuzzynurfhurter: you are at work and the firewall only allows certain ports. could be anything at this point. i assume you are using the system in question
[18:09] <kav> i think his software center is showing  blank screen
[18:09] <PRabyte> fuzzynurfhurter: they have port 6667 enabled, you are on irc. so most likely not a fw issue
[18:10] <IngCr3at1on> so, I guess I'm not understanding why xorg is entirely contradicting what the nvidia control panel is showing me... am I SOL?
[18:10] <PRabyte> possible perm issues
[18:10] <PRabyte> fuzzynurfhurter: screen shot and paste what you are seeing, so we can see
[18:10] <L3top> XavierCosta: sudo cp /home/xavier/70-persistent-rules.net /etc/udev/rules.d         then chmod 644 /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules     then     sudo chown root: /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules
[18:10] <PRabyte> fuzzynurfhurter: alt-prntscr  save and send
[18:10] <MonkeyDust> PRabyte  .compiz and .compiz-1 look a mess, unreadable
[18:10] <ratbert90> could somebody help me with a header problem?  I am trying to build a package and it spits out: configure: error: ncurses or ncursesw selected, but library not found (--without-ncurses to disable)
[18:10] <PRabyte> MonkeyDust:  lolol
[18:11] <ratbert90> however ncurses.h does exist
[18:11] <PRabyte> MonkeyDust: this has been driving me nuts for some time now
[18:11] <IngCr3at1on> L3top: I'm sorry I didn't think about this; would the fact that it's hdmi make a difference?
[18:12] <trism> ratbert90: can you pastebin the actual output and: apt-cache policy libncurses5-dev; ?
[18:12] <fuzzynurfhurter> it will download some stuff but not others
[18:12] <fuzzynurfhurter> i tried to dl firefox it wont
[18:12] <ratbert90> sure can
[18:12] <kav> hey ! can any one tell me how to run mblaze in backtrack
[18:13] <PRabyte> MonkeyDust: i have heard rumors and im starting to believe, since gconf holds some settings for compiz, and ccsm hold it in .compiz yadda, there is a conflict, power struggle. otherwise this should be a simple fix. even before i loaded compiz, the settings didnt hold. im using 10.04 lts, same default user from install with sudo perms. it should just retain. but it doesnt. maybe need to create a profile and safe an fun as new.profile.
[18:13] <L3top> IngCr3at1on: nope... basically, you are cloning your output... and it cannot figure out one of your monitors settings, so it is pinning them both at that default res. If you changed twin view to be extended, you would probably get closer to what you are trying to do.
[18:14] <kav> net Shutter in backtrack how ?
[18:14] <L3top> IngCr3at1on: did you say something about red speckles?
[18:14] <kav> PRabyte   : net Shutter in backtrack how ?
[18:14] <PRabyte> im going to try and remove sccsm and ccsm and use the default desktop method, and try saving a .profile
[18:14] <PRabyte> kav: ? no idea
[18:14] <PRabyte> kav: whats that do?
[18:14] <kav> O !
[18:15] <L3top> !backtrack | kav
[18:15] <XavierCosta> L3top, when I do the chmod it says operation not allowed
[18:15] <IngCr3at1on> yeh the primary monitor (the newer samsung one) shows red speckles in pictures and similar, the resolution and everything is what I want it set in the nvidia control panel (I'm not sure why the xorg.conf is leaving out that info)
[18:15] <L3top> sudo chmod XavierCosta
[18:15] <PRabyte> kav: i have no idea what :net Shutter means
[18:15] <kav> backtrack is distro which is secure and use for hacking
[18:15] <L3top> !backtrack | kav
[18:16] <PRabyte> kav: are you suggesting i change my OS? hahah
[18:16] <IngCr3at1on> the random red pixels don't show up in my other OS though so I'm lead to think it's something on the ubuntu side
[18:16] <kav> no no !
[18:16] <PRabyte> ill pass
[18:16] <fuzzynurfhurter> prabyte i am not at work
[18:16] <ratbert90> http://pastebin.com/npTEtuhG
[18:16] <PRabyte> fuzzynurfhurter: screenshots, paste it
[18:16] <Myrtti> kav: yes, and it's also not supported here
[18:16] <kav> i love backtrack , but i don't know how to plug and run my MTS MBlaze in it
[18:16] <BluesKaj> backtrack isn't my style , i'd rather move forward :)
[18:17] <XavierCosta> L3top - >done, reboot now?
[18:17] <fuzzynurfhurter> like i said it will dl some stuff but not others
[18:17] <L3top> IngCr3at1on: I used to know what that indicated... I cannot remember. You MIGHT try nvidia-current-updates
[18:17] <Jacruth> Ey guys, do you know why alsamixer shows this? http://i.imgur.com/DLSpO.png
[18:17] <PRabyte> kav: is that ubuntu related? no idea what MTS Mblaze is nor do i talk about hacking in here. ask someone else. thanks
[18:17] <kav> Aha ...
[18:17] <kav> ok! PRAbyte
[18:17] <L3top> yes XavierCosta.
[18:17] <Jacruth> I mean, I can't unmute the headphones: http://i.imgur.com/DLSpO.png
[18:18] <PRabyte> brb
[18:18] <kav> ok
[18:19] <XavierCosta> litropy , as for your question, i updated system with update manager, as I always do. But this time something went wrong after I rebooted
[18:19] <trism> ratbert90: are you cross building for arm?
[18:19] <fuzzynurfhurter> i gotta go bbl
[18:19] <litropy> XavierCosta, weird. I gotta run. Good luck.
[18:20] <L3top> I am afk XavierCosta... see if you can get wireless up now in network settings and Ill brb
[18:20] <ratbert90> trism, yes I am
[18:20] <XavierCosta> L3top reboot done, still no wireless
[18:21] <IngCr3at1on> I'll be back...
[18:21] <kav> my ubuntu live usb ruined out of memory
[18:21] <kav> what sholud i do
[18:22] <Nick9321> get a bigger usb?
[18:22] <Nick9321> or
[18:22] <trism> ratbert90: yeah then the system libncurses5 doesn't matter, you'll need the libs and headers for arm (might have more luck with help in #ubuntu-arm )
[18:22] <kav> my ubuntu  live usb is ruined  of memory
[18:22] <Nick9321> burn to DVD/cd
[18:22] <ki4ro> XavierCosta: Maybe this will help:  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=11882739
[18:22] <kav> i have 8 gb pendrive
[18:22] <Dr_willis> kav,  is it safe to say English is not your native language?
[18:22] <ratbert90> trism: Thanks mang, that's good to know.
[18:22] <ratbert90> :)
[18:23] <Nick9321> kav, how on earth did you run out of space then?
[18:23] <kav> i'm a indian
[18:23] <kav> my native language is hindi
[18:23] <piranah> :)
[18:23] <kav> my english is very poor
[18:24] <jagginess> i thought they also speak hurdu
[18:24] <kav> Aha ...sorry for that
[18:24] <ki4ro> kav: Much better than our Hindi!
[18:24] <piranah> jagginess: well people from pakistan would speak urdu
[18:24] <kav> its Urdu ,,,but i'm a hinu
[18:24] <kav> not muslim
[18:24] <jagginess> kav, not that it really matters.. anyways..
[18:24] <kav> hey ! can you help me
[18:25] <jagginess> kav, but we can tell your english has grammatic issues but we understand you
[18:25] <kav> thanks
[18:25] <kav> : )
[18:25] <piranah> :)
[18:25] <IngCr3at1on> that was weird lol...
[18:25] <IngCr3at1on> changing the driver versions worked
[18:25] <IngCr3at1on> not sure why I didn't think of that
[18:26] <ericus> Can network-manager connect to a virtual network?
[18:26] <kav> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1066379/plain/
[18:26] <ericus> I have a Virtualbox with ClearOS as gateway
[18:26] <IngCr3at1on> it does however seem to have broken xchat
[18:26] <IngCr3at1on> lol
[18:26] <ericus> But, I get two IP's from my ISP
[18:26] <kav> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1066379/plain/
[18:26] <jagginess> kav, people dont look into how to hack a live-linux cd or usb. You should install the real ubuntu..
[18:27] <kav> O k !
[18:27] <jagginess> kav, http://www.pendrivelinux.com/ http://www.pendrivelinux.com/universal-usb-installer-easy-as-1-2-3/
[18:27] <kav> can any one tell me how to save my fileSystem on computer
[18:28] <PRabyte> ok, removed sccsm and ccsm, only using default.
[18:28] <PRabyte> brb
[18:28] <kav> jagginess  : i already tried
[18:28] <jagginess> kav, I don't know if the latest supports this, but maybe. Maybe the latest 'pangolin' iso, you can do-> cat <iso>  >  /dev/<YOUR USB DEVICE>    (Everything on your usb gets DESTROYED)
[18:29] <jagginess> kav, does your bios support usbboot ?
[18:29] <kav> yup
[18:30] <jagginess> kav, did you successfully install ubuntu on a usb? that i'm not sure because you say "2.install ubuntu 12.04 on it by making persistence of 2gb "
[18:30] <kav> BIOS version : 5.24
[18:30] <jagginess> kav, your grammar does not indicate if you installed ubuntu
[18:30] <kav> core version :6.0
[18:31] <kav> i'm chatting from persistance live usb
[18:31] <kav> using empathy
[18:31] <L3top> !enter | kav
[18:32] <PRabyte> compiz uses .gconfd/saved_state positively. it had the world skydome in there earlier, and now it doesn't. which means, when i was using compiz, the settings were being retained there
[18:32] <jagginess> kav, oh I see, you're trying to use the internal harddrive as a storage for your live-usb.. nobody here does this..
[18:32] <kav> yup ! jagginess
[18:32] <jagginess> kav, you'll have to join a mailing list for that.. (but you'll have to google)
[18:32] <kav> O !
[18:33] <kav> but mailing list also not working for me
[18:33] <piranah> I agree with jagginess..... kav install Ubuntu to your computer. Its much better then running from a USB.
[18:33] <wylde> kav: what's the output of 'lsb_release -a' ?
[18:33] <Deckard_25> hi, will the newest AMD Catalyst 12.6 driver get into repositories?
[18:33] <kav> i already tried this
[18:33] <jagginess> piranah, he does have 2 ubuntu installs..
[18:33] <piranah> ops i missed that :) ok
[18:33] <jagginess> piranah, he's toying around with his usb-live bootable
[18:34] <kav> No LSB modules are available.
[18:34] <kav> Distributor ID:	Ubuntu
[18:34] <kav> Description:	Ubuntu 12.04 LTS
[18:34] <kav> Release:	12.04
[18:34] <kav> Codename:	precise
[18:34] <FloodBot1> kav: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:34] <L3top> Deckard_25: If I had anything to say about it, never. It drops support for gobs of cards. Most out there at this point.
[18:34] <piranah> jagginess: ahh i see ok. personly i only use my live usb for onsite work or to help me rescue files from a windows system
[18:34] <jagginess> kav, don't do that..
[18:34] <wylde> kav: ... pastebin
[18:34] <IngCr3at1on> that's interesting, different driver version broke xchat-gnome, so I installed x-chat (which never worked before), seems to have resolved it
[18:34] <kav> ok !
[18:35] <Deckard_25> L3top: I know, but there's fglrx and fglrx-updates packages and perhaps it will be shipped as fglrx-updates?
[18:35] <kav> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1066516/plain/
[18:35] <L3top> kav you have been told this like 5 times. Stop spamming the chat. Use pastebin. Stop hitting enter every 10 characters. I am trying to backscroll to help people and I have to go through a mile of you making smiley faces.
[18:36] <Deckard_25> L3top: I wanted to install it manually, but there's too many of i386 packages that apt wants to download
[18:36] <bilel> when I add a user to a group, it's not really updated, I know it will be if I reboot, but is there another way to do that?
[18:36] <kav> your output for lsb_release -a
[18:36] <kav> Sorry again
[18:36] <kav> i'm a newbie
[18:36] <kav> Aha ...
[18:36] <Cottus> bilel, relogin
[18:36] <piranah> L3top: go easy on em. 1700 people on the chan. Perhaps the people who you are helping could PM you ;)
[18:37] <L3top> Deckard_25: why do you want it? What are you looking to gain? Just curious.
[18:37] <kav> can any one help me ? http://paste.ubuntu.com/1066379/plain/
[18:37] <Deckard_25> L3top: with Catalyst from the repo Xonotic and ut2k4 are unplayable, because of lag and I hope the newest version will fix this
[18:38] <L3top> piranah: and if I make a mistake and dump something stupid in pm, nobody would catch it... and if all 1700 people didn't follow the rules like kav this place would be unusable.
[18:38] <bilel> Cottus: how can I do that? it's a webserver
[18:38] <PRabyte> welp, since i removed sccsm and ccsm the desktop right click method, now doesnt have custom option anymore, and no cube settings...
[18:38] <PRabyte> for compiz
[18:38] <IngCr3at1on> apparently I was wrong though, the random red pixels aren't entirely gone, there's just significantly less
[18:38] <Cottus> bilel, ask in ##linux
[18:38] <piranah> L3top: true
[18:38] <kav> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1066379/plain/
[18:38] <kav> i'm sick now
[18:39] <Cottus> kav, it needs login
[18:39] <wylde> !patience | kav
[18:39] <Cottus> kav, can you sent it otherwise
[18:39] <kav> i don't get you , what you want to say
[18:40] <kav> cottus
[18:40] <Cottus> can you paste it in such a way that it is shown to all people, not only those with login
[18:40] <Cottus> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1066379/
[18:41] <PRabyte> kav: what pastebin is that lol
[18:41] <Cottus> ( found it )
[18:41] <PRabyte> had to log in, sheshh
[18:41] <Cottus> heh
[18:41] <kav> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1066379/plain/
[18:41] <Cottus> no
[18:41] <kav> PRabyte   : can you help me
[18:41] <Cottus> there must be an option to get a publicly available link
[18:42] <PRabyte> kav: use the link at top of this window
[18:42] <garabaldy> my version of ubuntu has failed to download package files and I have been told to check my internet connection when it is fine. The error message I receive is  linux-libc-dev_3.0.0-20.34_i386.deb 404 Not Found. Is there a solution to this?
[18:42] <Cottus> ( it can be seen withouth the /plain/
[18:42] <kav> o god ! PRabyte : whats your age ?
[18:42] <PRabyte> kav:  just log out of ubuntu one or launch, its not that they wont help, its that not all people here have account and can see
[18:42] <sandyd> garabaldy: tried sudo apt-get update ?
[18:42] <PRabyte> kav: ? age? huh
[18:42] <Nick9321> garabaldy, that means the package is either deleted, or moved
[18:43] <kav> ya  !  your age ?
[18:43] <Cottus> oh cmon, i asked for a simple link that is public
[18:43] <PRabyte> kav: prolly better to ask, how long someone has been using ubuntu, and... more importantly, ask that in a IM which by the way is also frowned on, bad form peter bad form
[18:43] <navatwo> Can someone point me to literature to install Ubuntu on a iMac9,1
[18:43] <OerHeks> !mac
[18:43] <garabaldy> Sandyd: is that a bash command?
[18:44] <Cottus> nevermind http://paste.ubuntu.com/1066379 without /plain/
[18:44] <Nick9321> garabaldy, yes.
[18:44] <nannes> wow someone who wants install ubuntu on a Mac :O
[18:44] <IngCr3at1on> if I had a mac that's the first thing I would do
[18:44] <Deckard_25> me the same
[18:44] <kav> ok !
[18:45] <garabaldy> I haven't tried sudo apt-get update. Thanks. I'll give it a shot
[18:45] <kav> Cottus  : thanks
[18:45] <Cottus> sorry
[18:45] <garabaldy> quit
[18:45] <kav> now , i'm going to install ubuntu on my whole 8GB pendrive
[18:46] <kav> i need to sleep
[18:46] <kav> i haven't sleep for last 5 days
[18:46] <kav> i'm very sleepy
[18:46] <imark> kav: youll prob ruin your pendrive
[18:46] <DaDaDOSPrompt> This a good chat to ask for SSD advice in?
[18:47] <kav> good night every one .
[18:47] <Cottus> i don't know much about persistent installs , but i set a fat16 40MB boot partition , and the rest make it into ext4 and no swap
[18:47] <kav> Thanks for helping me
[18:47] <kav> sleep like a baby
[18:47] <DaDaDOSPrompt> that being on your SSD Cottus?
[18:47] <Cottus> a usb
[18:48] <DaDaDOSPrompt> ah
[18:48] <DaDaDOSPrompt> a bit of a different beast, by my reckoning
[18:48] <kav> O ! thats cool
[18:48] <DaDaDOSPrompt> alas
[18:48] <Cottus> :D
[18:48] <navatwo> Hmm, so I try to boot the live CD and it doesn't get anywhere after I select "Install" or "Boot without Installing"
[18:48] <kav> i think Cottus , only boot kernels in it
[18:48] <DaDaDOSPrompt> navatwo, here's a thought for yoyu
[18:49] <kav> bye Cottus
[18:49] <Cottus> bye
[18:49] <wylde> navatwo: do you get a blak screen?
[18:49] <navatwo> wylde: yes.
[18:49] <wylde> black*
[18:49] <navatwo> Black with a blinking cursor
[18:49] <Cottus> i boot full linux
[18:49] <Cottus> damit he left
[18:49] <wylde> !nomodeset | navatwo: try this out ;)
[18:49] <DaDaDOSPrompt> press that install button, and then do ctrl + alt + f1
[18:49] <asad2005> after some ppa-purge mey gnome classic menues have white background and i dont seem to be able to change themes any suggestion
[18:49] <DaDaDOSPrompt> yikes
[18:50] <asad2005> *my gnome
[18:50] <melow01> Ubuntu 12.04: Super+D doesn't minimize windows... is there a different shortcut to show dekstop?
[18:50] <wylde> navatwo: also, if that still fails you may want to get the alternate install cd with the text based installer
[18:51] <Cottus> DaDaDOSPrompt, you can also ask in ##linux
[18:51] <DaDaDOSPrompt> ok
[18:51] <OerHeks> asad2005, PPA's are unsupported here, because they can create troubles, or leave you in trouble after removing it.
[18:51] <jiffe98> there a way to find out which disks are raid10 mirror pairs with mdadm ?
[18:52] <DaDaDOSPrompt> jiffe98, type: cat /proc/mdstat
[18:52] <DaDaDOSPrompt> you should see the names of some HDD /dev/ files
[18:52] <helo> i'm trying to just test nfs mounting... i have a /var/lib/nfsroot, and '/var/lib/nfsroot/ *(rw,no_root_squash,sync,no_subtree_check)' in /etc/exports... nfs-kernel-server is running
[18:52] <DaDaDOSPrompt> or a pattern specifying them
[18:52] <helo> but it times out every time
[18:52] <helo> just trying to mount from localhost
[18:52] <IngCr3at1on> I'm going to try something else... I'll be back
[18:53] <jiffe98> DaDaDOSPrompt: when I do that I see md127 : active raid10 sdb[4] sda[0] sdc[2] sdd[3]
[18:54] <jiffe98> sdb is a rebuuilding spare right now so it may pop in spot 1 after it is rebuilt
[18:54] <DaDaDOSPrompt> spot 1 in what list?
[18:54] <DaDaDOSPrompt> or which list, rather
[18:55] <DaDaDOSPrompt> or perhaps what after all
[18:55] <asad2005> i cant change themes from apperance
[18:58] <Eduard_Munteanu> Hi, does the alternate install let me install a minimal X environment, or should I go with the server one instead?
[18:58] <Eduard_Munteanu> I don't want the whole Gnome/Unity thing
[18:59] <jagginess> Eduard_Munteanu, alternate iso allows to do raid setup upon install  (software-grade raid)
[19:00] <jiffe98> DaDaDOSPrompt: well if I am looking at the output of mdstat which is 'md127 : active raid10 sdb[4] sda[0] sdc[2] sdd[3]' how would I determine the raid pairs?
[19:00] <jagginess> Eduard_Munteanu, it's what i use for my raid1 2 drives here.. (used it on two systems and is exactly like the standard desktop iso, but the standard desktop iso has no raid support upon install)
[19:00] <rsumi> anyone know of package source that contains eclipse juno?
[19:01] <jagginess> Eduard_Munteanu, you can always uninstall unity later..
[19:01] <nannes> Eduard_Munteanu: Alternate version installs the same things as the desktop version does. You need the "minimal install" I guess
[19:01] <alankila> rsumi: the new eclipse? you should just download the binary package and extract it on Desktop
[19:01] <DaDaDOSPrompt> oh, the pairs?
[19:01] <DaDaDOSPrompt> hmm
[19:01] <jagginess> Eduard_Munteanu, you can even use gdm or kdm instead of lightdm (lightdm is optimized to work for getting into unity)  (am talking about the logon gui daemons too)
[19:01] <alyawn> it seems my Software Update locked up and has been sitting here over 2 hours... what should I do?
[19:01] <DaDaDOSPrompt> so you're saying that there are 2+ logical disks in that output, jiffe98 ?
[19:01] <DaDaDOSPrompt> if so, hm
[19:01] <Koganei> so, I have to set up a server for a friend, and I was wondering if I could do something like set it all up in in a Virtual Machine on my laptop and then just apply it to the actual hardware when I get to it
[19:02] <DaDaDOSPrompt> if that's the case, then we may have to write a quick script to divine the truth
[19:02] <DaDaDOSPrompt> mdadm can surely give us the info we seek
[19:02] <DaDaDOSPrompt> yes, I think I see how to do it
[19:02] <Maior> Koganei: something like Puppet would make that fairly trivial
[19:02] <jiffe98> DaDaDOSPrompt: there are 4 physical drives in a raid 10 and I just want to know which drives are mirror copies of which other drives
[19:02] <nannes> Eduard_Munteanu: The "minimal cd" is a minimal installation that lets you chose which software to install, one by one.  I can't get anything but a background image on my primary monitor now Oo
[19:02] <alankila> Koganei: sounds plausible, you should probably run the very same technology on both to make sure the transition is as easy as possible
[19:02] <DaDaDOSPrompt> ooh
[19:02] <jiffe98> so I know which drives can fail without breaking the raid
[19:02] <DaDaDOSPrompt> hm
[19:03] <IngCr3at1on> on the plus side, xorg.conf shows both monitos : http://pastebin.com/bfSmSvVZ
[19:03] <alankila> Koganei: but I have good experience with ubuntu server and dealing with simple changes like going from IDE I/O emulation to virtual io
[19:03] <alankila> Koganei: or converting from virtualbox disk format to qcow2
[19:04] <rsumi> alankila: i like packages because they setup icons and such
[19:04] <PRabyte> welp, when i find the fix for compiz and 10.04 LTS gnome desktop, i will post. thanks l8
[19:04] <Koganei> Maior: that sounds cool, thanks
[19:05] <ericus> Anyone good at virtualbox?
[19:05] <wylde> !anyone | ericus
[19:05] <schultza> what replaces beagle?
[19:06] <IngCr3at1on> so I guess the question now is can someone help me fix my horribly configured xorg.conf so I can actually log back in properly
[19:06] <garabaldy> In bash once you have used the command sudo apt -get update to get the updates how do you install them?
[19:06] <Eduard_Munteanu> nannes: hm, i see.
[19:06] <Koganei> alankila: I'll check that out thanks
[19:06] <DaDaDOSPrompt> jiffe98, have you played with mdadm much?
[19:06] <Eduard_Munteanu> jagginess: yeah, but I'm not planning on doing any of those.
[19:06] <Eduard_Munteanu> Mainly I just want X and some X apps.
[19:06] <ericus> I have a Virtualbox with ClearOS as gateway on a Ubuntu host. Problem is that the hosts traffic is not going trough the virtual box
[19:07] <ericus> LAN works fine
[19:07] <Eduard_Munteanu> I suppose I should go with the minimal install. Does that let you do automated deployments?
[19:07] <ericus> But the host get's another IP towards the internet
[19:07] <MonkeyDust> ericus  try changing NAT to bridgd
[19:08] <wylde> ericus: so, basically you want the vbox guest to be the gateway to the internet?
[19:08] <ericus> MonkeyDust: on the interface (WAN) I have it set to bridged
[19:08] <ericus> yes wylde
[19:08] <ericus> It's working fine for all other machines on the LAN
[19:08] <ericus> but not for the host
[19:09] <ericus> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=12062967#post12062967
[19:09] <wylde> ericus: then you'll have to configure that in your network settings. I'm no help with the graphical tools I'm not using untiy :(
[19:09] <ericus> some prints in the link
[19:09] <ericus> i'm using gnome classic
[19:09] <ericus> 11.04
[19:09] <jagginess> 12.04?
[19:09] <ericus> no
[19:10] <jagginess> or 11.10 ? (11.04 is out of date)
[19:10] <wylde> !11.04
[19:10] <Eduard_Munteanu> 12.04 here, if this was for me.
[19:10] <Eduard_Munteanu> I'm installing something a bit like a server, an automated media player.
[19:10] <ericus> 11.04
[19:10] <Eduard_Munteanu> I probably don't want a server-optimized kernel though.
[19:11] <helo> wow... 40 minutes trying to get nfs-kernel-server to let me mount a nfs share, and a reboot was all that i needed
[19:11] <wylde> ericus: brb, I'll go poke around on the 10.04 box here.
[19:11] <helo> i guess 12.04's using the windows xp kernel now?
[19:11] <ericus> Could be because of the old distro?
[19:12] <ertigo> hello , in unetbootin  , "space ysed to preserve file across reboots" should be 0 ?
[19:12] <GeekSquid> helo: chances are you installed a new kernel when you installed nfs, you need to reboot to use the new kernel
[19:12] <ertigo> used*
[19:12] <angs> how can I check if the hmdi port of the pc is working?
[19:13] <Eduard_Munteanu> angs: connect a screen to it?
[19:13] <OerHeks> ertigo, 0 is fine, but you can use the left space for small storage.
[19:13] <ertigo> OerHeks: I am making a bootable usb for ubuntu 10.10
[19:14] <Eduard_Munteanu> angs: if you boot with only HDMI connected, it should work
[19:14] <jagginess> angs, it would say it is detected/or nothing connected to it in the x log (/var/log/Xorg.0.log)
[19:14] <wylde> ericus: you likely just have to set the guest's ip address as the gateway in you network config. you can right click on the network icon, edit connections, then click on IPv4 tab. The rest of the options will be there. You likley just have to change the "gateway" option.
[19:14] <OerHeks> ertigo, oke, if you don't need that space, leave it @ 0
[19:14] <angs> Eduard_Munteanu: it is connected but I don't see any output, is there any command like lsusb to see the hdmi or video outputs?
[19:14] <Eduard_Munteanu> angs: xrandr, depending on the driver
[19:14] <n1ckn4me09876543> Here's the thing I'm trying to remove/get rid of stuff I don't need:  If you uninstall Language Support, future updates will not include new items in The Ubuntu desktop system set. Are you sure you want to continue?  The ubuntu desktop system \n ubuntu-desktop
[19:15] <n1ckn4me09876543> so is it safe to remove it?
[19:15] <Eduard_Munteanu> angs: what video card is that, and what drivers are you running?
[19:15] <angs> I am using an embedded board that has hdmi output, I do not know how it works
[19:15] <hc96> Hi! I'm using ubuntu 12.04. I just added a new user and now I cannot log into my old user. When I enter the password at the ubuntu login prompt, the screens gets black for a few seconds and afterwards I'm at the login screen again. This happens with all installed user interfaces (ubuntu and gnome shell). How can I see whats going on?
[19:15] <Eduard_Munteanu> angs: try messing with xrandr then, or configuring the X server
[19:15] <ertigo> OerHeks: shall i delete unetbootn.ee when making a bootable usb ?
[19:15] <ertigo> unetbootin*
[19:16] <ironm> Hi guys. In case you are looking for it:  mariadb-server 5.5.25 repo for off-line installations on ubuntu-server 12.04: http://rsync.it-infrastrukturen.org/mariadb/ubuntu/mariadb-5.5.25-ubuntu-12.04-repo.tgz
[19:16] <r00t__> Hey guys...is there any way for my to inhibit ubuntu from allowing programs to call home? Like a firewall?
[19:16] <ironm> http://rsync.it-infrastrukturen.org/mariadb/ubuntu/mariadb-test-5.5.25-ubuntu-12.04-repo.tgz
[19:16] <Eduard_Munteanu> hc96: you could ctrl+alt+f1 to a terminal, log in, and investigate from there.
[19:16] <wylde> r00t__:  ufw
[19:16] <ironm>  http://rsync.it-infrastrukturen.org/mariadb/ubuntu/mariadb-ubuntu-local-repo.pdf
[19:16] <wylde> !ufw | r00t__
[19:17] <schultza> cant find beagle in the repository.. they the project change names or was added to another project?
[19:17] <r00t__> wylde: thx
[19:17] <OerHeks> ertigo, unetbootin is just the tool to make a bootable usb, why remove?
[19:17] <Eduard_Munteanu> r00t__: I'd advise you not to run unsafe programs, if that's what you want.
[19:17] <hc96> Eduard_Munteanu: yes I can, but where should I start to look?
[19:17] <wylde> r00t__: if you'd like a gui for ufw there's gufw :)
[19:17] <hc96> Eduard_Munteanu: are there any logfiles or sth?
[19:17] <r00t__> wylde: yeah thats what im going to do haha
[19:18] <glitsj16> schultza: beagle .. that's been a while .. are you on ubuntu 12.04?
[19:18] <schultza> yes
[19:18] <Eduard_Munteanu> hc96: mm, see if the X server starts up properly, say /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[19:18] <asahi> what command can I use to replace filenames fitting a certain pattern?
[19:18] <wylde> !find | asahi
[19:18] <glitsj16> schultza: in that case, look into zeitgeist packages
[19:18] <wylde> lol whoops
[19:19] <wylde> asahi:  find is the command
[19:19] <diverdude> How do i list all installed php packages?
[19:19] <hc96> Eduard_Munteanu: I think it starts correctly since I see the graphical login screen
[19:19] <asahi> wylde: and do I need to pipe the output to another command
[19:19] <asahi> ?
[19:19] <glitsj16> schultza: you can check the 'privacy' stanza in system settings as well
[19:19] <Eduard_Munteanu> hc96: not sure how ubuntu does that, but I think that's a separate X server.
[19:19] <n1ckn4me09876543> does anyone know if its safe to remove language support? off my system
[19:20] <wylde> asahi: I don't know the command well enough. I don't think so. Believe you may be able to use the exec{} option to do the renaming. The people in #bash would probably have some good ideas for you.
[19:20] <asahi> k, thanks
[19:21] <wylde> diverdude: dpkg -l | grep php may do it
[19:21] <davinciad> have a sony vaio with switchable graphics, both cards show up in lspci but I'm not sure which one is active or if they both are?
[19:21] <IngCr3at1on> trying to fix my xorg.config for 2 xscreens and somehow lost the ability to use my wireless mouse... is that even possible? lol
[19:22] <Eduard_Munteanu> Where do I find the minimal install CD?
[19:22] <Eduard_Munteanu> Or at least some CD that lets me customize what packages I install.
[19:22] <LjL> !minimal | Eduard_Munteanu
[19:22] <davinciad> http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/alternative-downloads
[19:22] <r00t__> wylde: when I try to add a rule it tells me there is an error in adding a rule
[19:23] <Eduard_Munteanu> davinciad: yeah, I couldn't find it there :/
[19:23] <r00t__> wylde: erm...nevermind ill stop bugging you xD
[19:23] <Eduard_Munteanu> Not for 12.04 at least.
[19:23] <wylde> r00t__: you likely set an option wrong. :) Have a browse through the ufw info. It may help with setting proper rules.
[19:24] <n0x> will we be able to play flash videos after adobe abandoned support for flash player on linux? whats gonna happen now?
[19:25] <jiffe98> DaDaDOSPrompt: I have
[19:25] <hc96> hm... I got it. Just needed to remove the ~/.Xauthority file
[19:25] <hc96> now it works again
[19:25] <Elgerot> Would anyone be able to help a relatively inexperienced Linux user recover a SNAFU'd 11.10->12.04 upgrade?
[19:27] <Eduard_Munteanu> LjL: strange, why isn't it mirrored alongside the other CDs?
[19:27] <Eduard_Munteanu> e.g. http://mirrors.melbourne.co.uk/ubuntu-releases/precise/
[19:27] <LjL> Eduard_Munteanu: no idea
[19:28] <davinciad> anyone have experience with switchable graphics and ubuntu 12.04
[19:30] <OerHeks> davinciad, nvidia/intel or ati/intel?
[19:30] <wylde> Elgerot: Scary. My best suggestion (aside from hoping you made backups beforehand)if a wipe and fresh install.
[19:30] <wylde> if=is
[19:31] <catcher> Hello, I have my default folder views set for list view, sort by modification date.  How can I change to sort Descending instead of ASC?
[19:31] <Eduard_Munteanu> Mm, I think I'll just get the server version :/
[19:32] <ertigo_> I don'
[19:33] <ninjah> hey all
[19:33] <glitsj16> catcher: clicking the 'Date Modified' column header works as a toggle
[19:33] <ertigo_> I don't have enough words to thank Cottus for lending me a helping hand. He deserves a word of appreciation for being with me for close to 5 hours , patiently solving all my noobish doubts.
[19:33] <catcher> glitsj16, hoping for a way to set the default..
[19:34] <ertigo_> Hats off to you Cottus , you rock \m/ . I know all people in here rock for the amazing work they do , but Cottus you are awesome :)
[19:34] <ninjah> may I ask a probably FAQ
[19:34] <Cottus> keep it down :D
[19:34] <ninjah> but i can't figure it out
[19:34] <Cottus> praises go to Linux
[19:35] <ninjah> how to disable screen 'go to offline' - BLACK when watching a mov
[19:35] <ninjah> ie
[19:35] <ninjah> or anything, lets say, i'm exportin a large file
[19:35] <Cottus> Use linux Be free
[19:35] <ninjah> or copy a whole bunch of files
[19:36] <ninjah> i've disabled the screen saver
[19:36] <ertigo_> erm , is there a way to upgrade directly from 10.10 to 12.04 ??
[19:36] <ninjah> before the today update it worked okay
[19:36] <ninjah> anyone?
[19:36]  * Cottus laughs
[19:37] <glitsj16> catcher: have you checked your preferences? First tab 'Views'
[19:37] <ki4ro> ninjah: Please stop hitting ENTER...Please
[19:38] <ninjah> wth?
[19:38] <ninjah> what do you mean with enter
[19:38] <ki4ro> ninjah: You're flooding my screen
[19:39] <ninjah> i am not
[19:39] <mrdn> ertigo_: not really. one-by-one, or a fresh install
[19:39] <ki4ro> ninjah: Just type away and when you are finished hit ENTER...one time
[19:39] <ertigo_> ok mrdn
[19:39] <ninjah> i asked a question and hit ENTER
[19:39] <ninjah> so what the hell
[19:40] <Daxter> what ki4ro meant was your question
[19:40] <Daxter> was
[19:40] <Daxter> split
[19:40] <Daxter> up
[19:40] <Daxter> like
[19:40] <FloodBot1> Daxter: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:40] <Daxter> this
[19:40] <ninjah> and, asked if anyone can help me
[19:40] <ki4ro> Daxter: Thank you
[19:40] <ninjah> 3 lines of text and 3 times enter
[19:40] <Daxter> and i trigger floodbot
[19:40] <Daxter> lol
[19:40] <h00k> Daxter: please use the !enter factoid next time
[19:40] <h00k> !enter
[19:41] <Daxter> ah
[19:41] <Daxter> is there a lsit of all available facxtoids
[19:41] <ninjah> okay okay, sweet Jesus what+s up your ass?
[19:42] <Daxter> anyways did you check screensaver setiins, and power managemnet settings
[19:42] <Cottus> :D
[19:42] <h00k> !factoids | Daxter
[19:42] <Daxter> see if they are takking the monitor offline??
[19:42] <IdleOne> !guidelines | ninjah Please watch the language also
[19:42] <ninjah> yes sir
[19:42] <ninjah> i apologize
[19:42] <nannes1> ahahah
[19:42] <Daxter> i knew it..knew there had to be a !factoids
[19:42] <ninjah> like the Tomahawk song
[19:42] <ninjah> Sir Yes Sir
[19:43] <altan> hey guys
[19:43] <Daxter> now for floddbot question
[19:43] <Daxter> it mmuted me 5 secs after this
[19:43] <Daxter> even though I had nothing else in message queue to send here
[19:43] <nannes1> it doesn't matter
[19:44] <LjL> Daxter: it muted you at the same second you said "this"
[19:44] <Daxter> so does the bot automatically mute after the enter info is triggered
[19:44] <h00k> Daxter: no, you sent too many lines in a designated period of time.
[19:44] <LjL> Daxter: at least that's the version that's on my screen
[19:44] <Daxter> according to my timestamps mute happed 4 secs after
[19:44] <nannes1> it can see only the line of text you print  in function of the time
[19:44] <guntbert> !ot | Daxter
[19:44] <LjL> Daxter: well freenode has many servers, they're not always perfectly in sync
[19:45] <Daxter> yay! was wating for soemone to call !ot
[19:45] <freedom> ho
[19:45] <freedom> hi
[19:45] <freedom> everyone
[19:45] <freedom> xunbutu is better than unbutu
[19:45] <Daxter> hi
[19:45] <FloodBot1> freedom: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:45] <ninjah> it was a power management issue. thank you very much folks.
[19:45] <Daxter> np
[19:45] <nannes1> unbuntu? well, yes, it doesn't even exist
[19:45] <freedom> unbuntu has a lot of errors
[19:46] <LjL> freedom: ok. do you have a support question?
[19:46] <ninjah> i'm on ubuntu studio
[19:46] <designbybeck> In case you didn't know about the Full Cicle Magazine about Ubuntu  OS: http://fullcirclemagazine.org/issue-62/
[19:46] <ninjah> working great
[19:46] <freedom> xunbutu is better than ubuntu
[19:46] <ninjah> used lubuntu
[19:46] <freedom> what
[19:46] <ninjah> used Lubuntu?
[19:46] <freedom> why unbuntu has so many errors
[19:46] <guntbert> freedom:  please keep your contributions to support
[19:46] <freedom> unbutu has many errors
[19:46] <LjL> freedom: please ask a specific support question here.
[19:46] <freedom> xunbutu works better
[19:47] <freedom> but needs a little fixing
[19:47] <nannes1> I think you are just trolling free
[19:47] <Daxter> freedom: windows has more errors
[19:47] <h00k> freedom: Please stop trolling.
[19:47] <LjL> !ot | freedom
[19:47] <freedom> I AM NOT TROLLING
[19:47] <freedom> I AM FOR REAL
[19:47] <FloodBot1> freedom: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:47] <freedom> unbutu de regular one dont work
[19:47] <Daxter> yay
[19:47] <ninjah> anyone tried the 8 beta?
[19:47] <LjL> ninjah: the what?
[19:47] <Daxter> windows 8 you mean?
[19:47] <Daxter> i got it in a vm
[19:47] <Daxter> and its worse than unity
[19:48] <ertigo_> lol
[19:48] <LjL> come on let's keep it ontopic
[19:48] <hotel> I want a gd start button.
[19:48] <ninjah> LjL,  windows 8 prelease
[19:48] <ninjah> it imidiately want's you to have a hotmail accout to login
[19:49] <Daxter> use a local account
[19:49] <ninjah> then you can tweak it to go to a local
[19:49] <LjL> please, guys, this is #ubuntu. keep it about Ubuntu support
[19:49] <Daxter> as I dont use hotmail so local account works
[19:49] <guntbert> ninjah: please stop that - now
[19:49] <Daxter> but some apps want a real account
[19:49] <Daxter> ill be in offtopic..if you want to talk there
[19:50] <ninjah> ah come on - we were talking about OS errors and flaws, so I mentioned the windows as someone else did- just that. what are you? a dicktator?
[19:50] <Daxter> !ot | nannes1
[19:51] <Daxter> er
[19:51] <nannes1> ?
[19:51] <Daxter> wrong highlight
[19:51] <LjL> nannes1: mis-tab
[19:51] <nannes1> ok..
[19:51] <Daxter> idle kicked him before i pressed tab to comnplete the name
[19:52] <jb__> where do i go to update my software in Ubuntu. Will flash player for firefox be included in the update
[19:53] <nannes1> jbwell, if you installed it from the official repos, then yes.
[19:53] <jagginess> jb__, use the 'software upgrade' application to add 'third' party partners, (and turn on restricted/multiverse/universe repos too)
[19:54] <jb__> I used the Ubuntu sofware center where will I find the software upgrade
[19:55] <n0x> unity is revealing when I grab something (file, anything), can I fix that?
[19:56] <nannes1> jb__: type this on terminal:   dpkg -l | egrep {'flash|swf|gnash|spark'}
[19:56] <nannes1> !ping
[19:56] <M4rc3l> pong!
[19:56] <jb__> thank you
[19:57] <nannes1> jb__: no no, that is only to see the actual version! please type it and paste here the answer
[19:58] <jb__> @nannes1 I am in the process of installing flash for firefox
[19:59] <nannes1> oh you haven't even installed it?!
[20:01] <no-one1458> on ubuntu 12.04, how do I resize the unity dock icons?
[20:01] <ki4ro> no-one1458: Try MyUnity
[20:01] <nannes1> jb__: I have to reccomend you to install the original adobe plugin, cause the others gave some problems recently..... You can install it adding the launchpad repos, or downloading it directly from the web site! If you want the link, just say
[20:02] <no-one1458> ki4ro: is it in the official repos?
[20:02] <faryshta> Is there a way to download a file using RTMP or RTSP protocols?
[20:02] <_Ethan_> hi, it seems when installing ubuntu 12.04 i have just half screen!
[20:02] <_Ethan_> what should i do ?
[20:02] <ki4ro> no-one1458: Should be in the software center I believe
[20:03] <no-one1458> ki4ro: I will give it a try
[20:03] <nannes1> faryshta: what do they have to do with the file transfert ??
[20:03] <osse> Hi guys. In order to compile a program I need a tool called 'libtoolize' but I can't find any package related to it. How do I get it?
[20:03] <ki4ro> no-one1458: Good luck!
[20:04] <trism> osse: libtool
[20:04] <Gyges> !sudo | ertigo_
[20:04] <guntbert> !info libtool | osse
[20:05] <ki4ro> osse: Have a look:  http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/hardy/man1/libtoolize.1.html
[20:05] <osse> thanks, trism & guntbert. That did the trick.
[20:05] <osse> Now I only have to find 'aclocal' ^_^
[20:06] <IdleOne> !find aclocal
[20:06] <trism> osse: grab automake and autoconf while you are at it
[20:06] <no-one1458> !info build-essential
[20:06] <dv310p3r> Anyone have an opinion on how Pangolin runs on a MacBook Pro? My company wants me to get one, but I won't unless i can run Ubuntu on it.
[20:07] <nannes1> dv310p3r: aahah you are great! But....
[20:07] <nannes1> MacOS is really good, maybe for what you need is already the best
[20:08] <osse> IdleOne, hmm. I did 'apt-cache search aclocal' and that found nothing :S Is there an option I don''t know about?
[20:08] <dv310p3r> nannes1, I really like ubuntu, I don't like MacOS.
[20:08] <bekks> dv310p3r: You can run vbox on Mac OSX, and Ubuntu inside a fullscreened vm .)
[20:08] <dv310p3r> bekks, seems like I'd be eating unnecessary resources like that.
[20:08] <nannes1> lol ok :D you said "netbook" ?
[20:09] <nannes1> sorry  "MacBook" ?
[20:09] <IdleOne> osse: apt-cache search looks for package names and descriptions
[20:09] <dv310p3r> Yes, MackBook pro
[20:09] <bekks> dv310p3r: I dont care about resources like that, since if I run out of them, I just order more of them ;)
[20:09] <IdleOne> osse: you can /msg ubottu !find something - for the bot to search for you.
[20:10] <nannes1> dv310p3r: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MacBook
[20:10] <whit3b0y> getting a zend_mm_heap() error running a small php script under ubuntu, not getting the error with same script on windows...any ideas what could be going on?
[20:11] <dv310p3r> nannes1, thanks
[20:11] <nannes1> dv310p3r: and this is for USB install   https://help.ubuntu.com/community/How%20to%20install%20Ubuntu%20on%20MacBook%20using%20USB%20Stick
[20:14] <NastyNaz> how do I make only the current terminal window transparent?
[20:14] <jagginess> NastyNaz, say 'Computer show me under your terminal'
[20:15] <jagginess> NastyNaz, gnome-terminal supports the option
[20:15] <osse> trism, thanks for the heads up. It seems I have all the tools I need now :) As long as it's stuff from the main repos I usually don't think twice about just installing whatever packages I need (unlike some other environments I use from time to time...)
[20:15] <jagginess> NastyNaz, should be in the dialog options
[20:15] <osse> IdleOne, thanks for the tip. I'll try that next time. Maybe it's faster even
[20:17] <NastyNaz> jagginess: I created a new profile and set the terminal to the new one and it worked
[20:22] <clause> Hi everyone. My dashboard on the left side of the screen started auto-collapsing...How do I prevent this?
[20:22] <pancakes> In Ubuntu 12.04 LTS, when I reboot, network settings like the route table are automatically configured.  How can I execute that same reconfiguration process without rebooting?
[20:22] <strk> does anyone have a classmate ?
[20:22] <pancakes> clause, what version of ubuntu are you using?
[20:22] <clause> pancakes: the latest release.
[20:22] <pancakes> clause, i think i'm running the latest release, too, and mine doesn't automatically collapse...it didn't always do that for you?
[20:23] <MonkeyDust> clause  use MyUnity, it's in the repos, software center or apt-get
[20:23] <clause> MonkeyDust: what is that?
[20:23] <vjacob> anyone here who could help me find out why my Ubunto graphical user interfaces never gets past an animated load screen (text says "Xubuntu")?
[20:24] <MonkeyDust> clause  type !info myunity to find out
[20:24] <clause> !info myunity
[20:24] <Jordan_U> pancakes: Routing table configuration is pretty dynamic, not just something done at b oot. What problem are you actually having?
[20:25] <linux_is_my_hero> help!  i can't get my linux computer to find wired ethernet drivers :-(
[20:25] <Gyges> vjacob, also check ~/.xsession-errors
[20:26] <Gyges> linux_is_my_hero, send an lspci
[20:27] <linux_is_my_hero> gyges: its a broadcom bcm4400 ethernet card
[20:27] <profiler1982> did k10temp sensor show corect valve on apu c-60? my temperature is around 77c
[20:27] <linux_is_my_hero> gyges: braodcom bcm4311 wireless card
[20:28] <profiler1982> in 11.10ubuntu
[20:28] <pancakes> Jordan_U, I'm setting up an ASUS WL-330gE wireless access point and setting it to operate in "ethernet adapter" mode.  The ASUS has a wireless interface and an ethernet interface built in; putting it in "ethernet adapter" mode apparently bridges its ethernet interface with its wireless interface, which (once I've connected the ASUS to my wireless network) tricks my computer into believing that it's physically connected via eth0 to my
[20:28] <pancakes> local (wireless) network.
[20:28] <Gyges> linux_is_my_hero, some cards need firmware to install
[20:29] <linux_is_my_hero> gyges: normally if ethernet was working, ubuntu would find the drivers or i could use some other method to find them, but all i have is another computer and a thumbdrive.  any ideas?
[20:29] <pancakes> Jordan_U, the ASUS begins in factory default settings, at which point it's acting like a router of some kind.  In any case, my computer boots up and sees the ASUS at <IP_ADDRESS> as a default gateway -- an appropriate entry is created in the routing table that lets me connect to the ASUS's web-based management console at <IP_ADDRESS>.
[20:29] <Gyges> what about ethernet, what card?
[20:29] <vjacob> Gyges, x-session-manager: Fatal IO error 11 (Resource temporarily unavailable) on X server :0.
[20:29] <vjacob> mate-screensaver: Fatal IO error 11 (Resource temporarily unavailable) on X server :0.
[20:30] <Gyges> vjacob, i don't know
[20:30] <vjacob> Gyges, good tip though
[20:30] <linux_is_my_hero> my other computer has everything working.  the trouble computer has a braodcom bcm4100 ethernet card
[20:30] <vjacob> Gyges, I don't know either.
[20:30] <pancakes> Jordan_U, If  I go to the ASUS's web-based management console and switch it into ethernet adapter mode WITHOUT first connecting it to my wireless network, then my route table and arp table get flushed (presumably by some automated daemon that's watching eth0?), and I can't even connect to <IP_ADDRESS> to continue configuration.
[20:30] <Gyges> :D
[20:30] <linux_is_my_hero> gyges: my other computer has everything working.  the trouble computer has a braodcom bcm4100 ethernet card
[20:31] <Gyges> ah
[20:31] <Gyges> linux_is_my_hero, i'm searching for a list of supported cards
[20:31] <_pHI_> is there a way to check with which parameters my distribution loads a kernel module at boot? i.e. the params one would pass to "sudo modprobe"?
[20:32] <pancakes> Jordan_U, if I reboot, the route table and arp table remain empty and I can't connect to anything.  If I manually add a route to <IP_ADDRESS> on device eth0, and I manually give myself an IP address such as <IP_ADDRESS>, I can connect to the ASUS and continue configuration.
[20:32] <linux_is_my_hero> gyges: i stand corrected.  its a braodcom bcm4401-b0
[20:32] <pancakes> Jordan_U, however, after a minute or two, the manually added route disappears, presumably because some automated process is overwriting my work.
[20:33] <pancakes> Jordan_U, Once I configure the ASUS to connect to my wireless network, everything goes smoothly and my route table is configured correctly, automatically, when I reboot.  But if I don't reboot, the route table stays empty.
[20:34] <pancakes> I want to know: how can I initiate the same automated network bootstrap procedure, or whatever it is that's setting up my network configuration, that happens on boot -- without rebooting?
[20:35] <vjacob> anyone else?
[20:37] <fluffyguy> Bit weird question but is it possible that I have 10 Celsius lower CPU temperatures than on Windows 7? (temp1:        +37.0°C  (crit = +75.0°C))
[20:37] <vjacob> fluffyguy, yes
[20:37] <vjacob> although that would suggest that Windows 7 is rubbish.
[20:37] <vjacob> wait...
[20:37] <vjacob> that makes sense.
[20:37] <Gyges> linux_is_my_hero, can you send and ifconfig -a
[20:37] <jagginess> fluffyguy, linux is cooler
[20:38] <fluffyguy> So "sensors" readings are correct?
[20:38] <n3rdo> lol jagginess
[20:38] <pancakes> Jordan_U, I'd be happy if I just knew what was responsible for these automagic changes.
[20:38] <fluffyguy> even though it lists cPU as temp1:        +37.0°C  (crit = +75.0°C)
[20:38] <TrickyJ> Hi all
[20:38] <vjacob> its a bit like a freezer
[20:38] <vjacob> you put it in there
[20:39] <LjL> fluffyguy: difficult to know for sure
[20:39] <vjacob> and your computer has ice cubes ad libitum
[20:39] <pancakes> Jordan_U, it really bothers me not knowing what's modifying my network settings automatically, and how it's doing it, on my computer
[20:39] <vjacob> after all, it is run by penguins.
[20:39] <jagginess> pancakes, you trying ifupdown vs nm ?
[20:40]  * LjL drags vjacob into #ubuntu-offtopic
[20:40] <pancakes> Is it the kernel?  Is it avahi? Is it some script that Ubuntu's devs installed somewhere? I just don' tknow
[20:40] <jagginess> pancakes, what are you trying to setup your nic?
[20:40] <pancakes> jagginess, I'm just trying to understand what is doing the automatic configuration of my network settings like route table
[20:40] <ikonia> pancakes: why do you think something is changing your network ?
[20:40] <vjacob> LjL, but i am watching Dr Who... and trying to figure out why my ubuntu distro does not finish offer an X login prompt.
[20:40] <jagginess> pancakes, with what command?
[20:40] <pancakes> ikonia, I'm changing my network, and something in Ubuntu is detecting the changes and modifying things like my route table as it happens; I want to know what that thing is and how it's doing it.
[20:41] <ikonia> pancakes: how are you changing your network settings ?
[20:41] <sunshinehappy> how do I stop ubuntu screenshot from making the camera shutter sound?
[20:41] <jagginess> "<jagginess> pancakes, you trying ifupdown vs nm ?"
[20:41] <vjacob> sunshinehappy, are you setting up surveillance?
[20:41] <jagginess> sunshinehappy, why turn that off? that sound is very cool
[20:41] <sunshinehappy> no
[20:41] <pancakes> ikonia, I'm not changing anything on my Ubuntu machine.  I'm just changing the topology of the network and the settings of devices on that network.
[20:42] <ikonia> pancakes: ok, what are you changing on your network ?
[20:42] <jagginess> pancakes, network-manager
[20:42] <sunshinehappy> I don't like it
[20:42] <vjacob> well, I'd like to know how to turn it off, I need surveillance... and a camera :D
[20:42] <jagginess> pancakes, http://projects.gnome.org/NetworkManager/developers/
[20:43] <vjacob> heh
[20:44] <ronny_> hi guys, i just installed edubuntu on a DEL D630 its all looks fab, but my wireless doesnt work, it has a broadcom driver that can be activated but not supported, i activated it, but still cant get the wifi to work, any ideas ?
[20:44] <pancakes> ikonia, specifically, I have a WPA2 secured wireless network with one  wireless router (connected to a modem, which goes to my ISP).  I recently bought a small device (ASUS WL-330gE) that can act as a bridge connecting my Ubuntu machine's ethernet port with the wireless network.  It doesn't start out in that mode; it starts out in different configuration that my Ubuntu machine recognizes well enough so that it automatically creates an
[20:44] <pancakes>  appropriate route table and so forth...in the ASUS's default state, I can connect to it just fine.
[20:45] <linux_is_my_hero> gyges: http://pastebin.com/b5nqh06B
[20:45] <ikonia> pancakes: are your IP's supplied by DHCP ?
[20:46] <jagginess> pancakes, you have problems doing other pc<->this? (firewall?)
[20:46] <pancakes> ikonia, when I switch the ASUS into its bridged mode before connecting it to my wireless network, I'm still able to connect to it just fine because my route table and so forth remain unchanged.
[20:46] <Gyges> linux_is_my_hero, this showthere is an ethenet card that works
[20:46] <pancakes> ikonia, but if I reboot at that point, my route table becomes empty, and even if I manually add a route back in that lets me connect to the ASUS for further configuration, it gets flushed after a minute or two
[20:46] <ikonia> pancakes: if you are changing the state of a device you are connected to, it will change your routing table as the network it is connected and the avertised routes will change
[20:46] <Gyges> linux_is_my_hero, this is not the solution : sudo dhclient eth1
[20:47] <pancakes> ikonia, and what is the thing in my Ubuntu machine that responds to those changes?
[20:47] <ikonia> pancakes: will it will be a combination of network manager and the avertised data from your dhcp service
[20:48] <pancakes> jagginess, I haven't tried it with another PC, but what I'm trying to understand is unrelated to firewalls
[20:48] <bulio> I'm running lubuntu
[20:48] <bulio> everytime I plug in my canon dslr to use in mass storage mode
[20:48] <bulio> hundreds of lxterminal windows spawn
[20:48] <ronny_> where do i find system utilities in edubuntu ?
[20:48] <bulio> what causes this?
[20:48] <pancakes> ikonia, is network manager the only thing that would modify my network settings within Ubuntu (in response to advertised data from a DHCP server)?
[20:49] <bulio> anyone?
[20:49] <linux_is_my_hero> gyges: why then when I try and ping my router does the command line say "connect: Network is unreachable" ?
[20:49] <linux_is_my_hero> gyges: I am so confused.
[20:49] <ikonia> pancakes: it is the most realistic/logical deducation based on what you've told us
[20:49] <Gyges> linux_is_my_hero, it first needs to get an ip
[20:49] <pancakes> ikonia, that sounds right.  I'll check out network manager.  thanks
[20:50] <pancakes> ikonia, i was just getting really frustrated having no idea what was modifying my settings
[20:50] <linux_is_my_hero> gyges: hence the "command" you suggested?
[20:50] <Gyges> linux_is_my_hero, yes
[20:52] <pancakes> linux_is_my_hero, that usually suggests that you don't have a route to the target network...  it probably means your computer is not configured properly for your local network, which probably means that the DHCP server, which is probably running on your router, is malfunctioning.  You should check your router to make sure it's set up to do DHCP, and you should check your computer to make sure it's set up to use DHCP, too.
[20:52] <Gyges> ronny_, do you see other wireless networks?
[20:52] <dedechan> Hello, does anybody know Wondershaper on linux? I am trying to reduce the upload speed on eth0
[20:52] <boehmer> hello
[20:52] <ikonia> dedechan: I've seen a fair ammount of people complaining that it's a poor tool, but I don't use it myself so can't confirm
[20:52] <pancakes> jagginess, ikonia, thanks for your help
[20:52] <linux_is_my_hero> gyges: its not doing anything except blinking
[20:52] <gogeta> dedechan: cant your roughter handel that
[20:52] <linux_is_my_hero> pancakes: router has an active dhcp table
[20:53] <linux_is_my_hero> pancakes: the computer im using to talk to you right now has one of the entries leased to it by that router :-)
[20:53] <dedechan> I have a simple router
[20:54] <Gyges> hi boehmer
[20:54] <dedechan> I have no clue to be honest
[20:54] <pancakes> linux_is_my_hero, does your router have a web-based console?  can you access it?
[20:54] <linux_is_my_hero> pancakes: just checked there
[20:54] <pancakes> so you can connect to it.
[20:54] <linux_is_my_hero> pancakes: yes
[20:54] <pancakes> then something is filtering out the ICMP packets.
[20:55] <pancakes> either your local machine (unlikely?) or your router (more likely?) is set up to reject ICMP echo requests with "destination not reachable" or osmething similar
[20:55] <linux_is_my_hero> pancakes: im gunna try resetting the dhcp table
[20:55] <gogeta> dedechan: it should have qos mode from there you can set the bandwith limits
[20:55] <pancakes> linux_is_my_hero, I don't think you need to do that
[20:55] <boehmer> i am just doing maintenance at a ubuntu laptop i set up 2-3 years ago which has been upgraded through all releases in the meantime
[20:55] <linux_is_my_hero> pancakes: what should i do?
[20:55] <dedechan> how to know the interface I'm using for internet please ?
[20:55] <pancakes> linux_is_my_hero, the fact that you can connect to your router in a web browser means that packets are being routed to the router.
[20:55] <boehmer> how to fix a users profile if all file type icons are damaged/missing
[20:56] <pancakes> linux_is_my_hero, check your router's web-based console to see if there's  place where you can configure its firewall (or equivalent functionality)
[20:56] <linux_is_my_hero> pancakes: thats on a different computer.  the same one that is running pidgin for this chat room :-)
[20:56] <boehmer> in the file manager most file types and even folders have a plain document as icon
[20:56] <gogeta> dedechan: qos can limit uploads on specific or all machines
[20:56] <boehmer> how can i restore default file type icons for all file types?
[20:56] <vjacob> so I take it that this X thingie generally is'nt something most people play around with fixing in here?
[20:56] <tdjones> Hello. I need help with Ubuntu 11.04. I have two folders on my desktop which are locked. How do I unlock them? Is it changing permissions? But I'm the administrator.
[20:57] <pancakes> linux_is_my_hero, I'm a little confused; I thought you said that the computer from which you cannot ping the router is also the computer from which you are able to access the router's web-based console?
[20:57] <linux_is_my_hero> pancakes: i have a desktop which works awesome and everything works, then my laptop next to it is the one with the network issues
[20:57] <pancakes> tdjones, what do you mean by 'locked'?  maybe it's an ubuntu term i'm not familiar with, but you can verify its permissions with ls -l
[20:57] <MonkeyDust> vjacob  type !xorgconf to find out why
[20:57] <gogeta> dedechan: its bascily what your trying to do at the roughter level rather then using some hacky app
 LjL, but i am watching Dr Who... and trying to figure out why my ubuntu distro does not finish offer an X login prompt.           I would need more information than that... a bit clearer
[20:58] <linux_is_my_hero> pancakes: im doing my comms and web browsing through the desktop
[20:58] <pancakes> linux_is_my_hero, can you ping the router from your desktop?
[20:58] <tdjones> I mean that the folder has a lock symbol on it.
[20:58] <linux_is_my_hero> sure
[20:58] <pancakes> linux_is_my_hero, and you're sure the laptop has received a dchp lease from the router?
[20:58] <linux_is_my_hero> pancakes: done! :-)
[20:58] <tdjones> pancakes without removing the lock from it, I can't move it or delete it.
[20:58] <linux_is_my_hero> pancakes: checking dhcp table now
[20:59] <pancakes> tdjones, I'm not sure what you mean by "the lock"
[20:59] <pancakes> tdjones, what are the permissions on the file?
[20:59] <Gyges> tdjones, it is permissions
[20:59] <tdjones> The folder has the symbol of a padlock on it in the lower right hand corner.
[21:00] <tdjones> pancakes how do I check permissions?
[21:00] <guntbert> tdjones: open a terminal and type  ls  -ld Desktop/*
[21:00] <dedechan> gogeta: I do not have a lot of knowloedge so I have no choice but using that hacky app ;-)
[21:00] <pancakes> tdjones, open a terminal and type ls -l /path/to/my/file
[21:00] <dedechan> gogeta: It's only temporary tho, I wanna reduce blizzard dowloader's upload speed, way too high on Wine
[21:01] <vjacob> L3top + MonkeyDust, right. I can login using "startx" just fine, but I have to open a console and type it manually (and it opens on F8). However, whenever I boot an Xubuntu load screen appears, never reaches the login prompt though (F7). Any more questions?
[21:01] <guntbert> tdjones: use a pastebin to show us the results
[21:01] <linux_is_my_hero> pancakes: its there now.  apparently the hardware portion of my laptop's ethernet plug is slightly damaged...i had to push it in a little harder than normal, its now in the dhcp table, and its pinging the router, and friefox is on the internet.
[21:01] <guntbert> !pastebin | tdjones
[21:02] <linux_is_my_hero> pancakes: thanks for your help, despite me being an idiot and forgetting that old computers wear out
[21:02] <L3top> vjacob: cat /etc/X11/default-display-manager
[21:02] <pancakes> linux_is_my_hero, it's uncommon but it can happen
[21:02] <pancakes> glad to hear you figured it out
[21:02] <vjacob> L3top, "lightdm"
[21:03] <alexxxx> Hi, Guys!
[21:03] <L3top> vjacob: and you are not using lightdm?
[21:03] <tdjones> I type ls -l /path/to/my/file? or ls -l /(name of folder)?
[21:03] <linux_is_my_hero> pancakes: i'm going hard for wireless drivers so i don't care.  in the meantime its pinging infinately so i have a log of missed connections :-)
[21:03] <vjacob> I am not sure if I am or should be.
[21:03] <vjacob> L3top, I might add that I tried a number of different environments but ended up trying to remove all but MATE
[21:03] <guntbert> tdjones: type  ls  -ld Desktop/*
[21:03] <alexxxx> Are MySQL and php pre-installed in Ubuntu 11.10?
[21:03] <L3top> xubuntu uses xfce. Ubuntu uses unity/lightdm vjacob
[21:03] <davv3_> hi. why does my newly installed ubuntu identify my monitor and tv as laptops?
[21:03] <tdjones> I did that already
[21:04] <pancakes> tdjones, either one works, but if you type the exact path you'll just get one result, and if you type the path to the directory, then you'll get a result for each file and folder contained in that folder
[21:04] <davv3_> i have tried both driver alternatives
[21:04] <guntbert> alexxxx: no
[21:04] <davv3_> this since doing an upgrade
[21:04] <pancakes> tdjones, sorry, are you trying to move a folder or a file?
[21:04] <vjacob> L3top, hmmm you seem to have a point there... I take it :)
[21:04] <imanc> does every start up script need to have a directory in /var/run ? I'm just reading something which says it is needed but without providing an explanation as to why
[21:04] <alexxxx> guntbert: I need it cause I'd like to run site local
[21:04] <tdjones> I'm trying to change permissions
[21:04] <L3top> vjacob: You will want to find the mate equiv of what is actually in the file I asked you to cat.
[21:04] <guntbert> tdjones: thats just for knowing the permissions, please show us the results in a pastebin
[21:04] <davv3_> 1613 people :)
[21:04] <vjacob> I did install XFCE, I removed Unity and I am trying to run mate.
[21:05] <linux_is_my_hero> pancakes: it says it has the broadcom wireless drivers for the 43xx series, but the hardware wireless switch won't activate the wireless
[21:05] <L3top> and change it using sudo/gksudo depending on your editor vjacob
[21:05] <vjacob> (I also removed XFCE and other environments except MATE to the best of my knowledge)
[21:05] <vjacob> ok
[21:05] <linux_is_my_hero> pancakes: its a key combination, is it possible that ubuntu doesn't allow the "fn" key immediately?
[21:05] <vjacob> I wonder how to find out what that is called
[21:06] <davv3_> i try booting the livecd again
[21:06] <tdjones> the name of the folder is recup_dir.1 when i type ls -l /recup_dir.1, it says no such file or directory
[21:06] <guntbert> !enter | davv3_
[21:06] <croz> how does one get package information on ubuntu. especially for packages already installed to see version (from terminal)?
[21:06] <L3top> vjacob: it is probably in the same place as lightdm. ls /usr/bin/mat*
[21:06] <vjacob> ahh
[21:06] <davv3_> ubottu: ok!
[21:06] <imanc> croz - dpkg -L packagename    or dpkg —list      to list 'em all
[21:07] <guntbert> tdjones: use ls -ld ...
[21:07] <vjacob> mate-session or mate-wm?
[21:07] <croz> thanks imanc!
[21:07] <L3top> I dunno vjacob. I don't use mate
[21:07] <pancakes> linux_is_my_hero, I suppose it's conceivable
[21:07] <L3top> vjacob: I would login, and call each and see what they do.
[21:07] <croz> hmmm that listed a bunch of folders
[21:07] <guntbert> davv3_: when your question is spread across half a page no one will be able to see it
[21:07] <tdjones> ls -ld /recup_dir.1 no such directory or folder, but it appears on the list in the desktop.
[21:07] <croz> i just want to see what version of python i have installed
[21:08] <croz> ahhhh python -v
[21:08] <guntbert> tdjones:     type     ls -ld  Desktop/recup<tab>
[21:09] <imanc> croz .. heh
[21:09] <tdjones> it says drwxr-xr-x 2 root root next to the folder in the directory list
[21:09] <pancakes> tdjones, try ~/Desktop/recup_dir.1
[21:09] <tdjones> nothing before ~ ?
[21:09] <guntbert> tdjones: now    type    sudo chown Desktop/recup<tab>
[21:09] <pancakes> ls -ld ~/Desktop/recup_dir.1
[21:10] <guntbert> pancakes: I'll leave it to you :)
[21:10] <pancakes> When you typed ls -ld /recup_dir.1 you were actually telling ls to give info about a file located in the root directory "/", not on your desktop (which is located elsewhere)
[21:10] <vjacob> L3top, you, sir, brillian]
[21:10] <davv3_> my question is this: how to i revert to the graphics driver that is on the install media without having to reinstall?
[21:10] <vjacob> unlike me who type ] instead of !
[21:11] <tdjones> pancakes now it says /home/tomjones/Desktop/recup_dir.1
[21:11] <davv3_> nvidia related since its an old geforce 220 card
[21:12] <pancakes> tdjones, that looks correct.
[21:12] <tdjones> pancakes now what?
[21:12] <L3top> Glad you got going vjacob :)
[21:12] <pancakes> what is the output of ls -ld /home/tomjones/Desktop/recup_dir.1
[21:12] <tdjones> pancakes how can I get the output?
[21:12] <vjacob> L3top, thank you for saving me from the torment that is Dr Who...
[21:13] <pancakes> tdjones, in a terminal, type "ls -ld /home/tomjones/Desktop/recup_dir.1" (without quotes) and hit enter, then copy and paste the line that shows recup_dir.1
[21:13] <davv3_> q: how are system updates managed?
[21:13] <tdjones> pancakes a separate terminal or the same one?
[21:13] <pancakes> tdjones, the same terminal is fine.
[21:14] <tdjones> l get the same output as before
[21:14] <Krammer> Hello :) How can I reduce a protected partition with Gparted please ?
[21:14] <tdjones> pancakes same output as before /home/tomjones/Desktop/recup_dir.1
[21:15] <bekks> Krammer: Release every access to it, like unmounting it, disable swap.
[21:15] <pancakes> tdjones, is there output to the left of that?  that's what I'm interested in; it tells me who has permissions to do stuff to the directory.
[21:15] <Krammer> how can I do it ?
[21:15] <davv3_> to answer my own questions update manager, there is also a revert button there but grayed out in the live media so i boot that now. :D
[21:15] <pancakes> tdjones, it should look like this: drwxrwxr-x 2 ubuntu ubuntu 40 2012-06-29 21:14 foo
[21:15] <Krammer> I want to reduce the partition where there is Linux :/
[21:15] <vjacob> L3top,  cheers for now]
[21:15] <vjacob> to be continued]
[21:15] <vjacob> ] is overrated anyways.
[21:15] <tdjones> to the left is drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 20480 and the date and time
[21:17] <tdjones> pancakes to the left is drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 20480 date and time
[21:18] <Krammer> I have the error message "Daemon is inhibited"
[21:18] <tdjones> pancakes are you still there?
[21:19] <Hattori> hello, how can i read the last mail from command line?
[21:19] <pancakes> tdjones, OK.  The problem is most likely that you're not root, and that directory (=folder) belongs to root.  the first "root" on that line means that the user "root" has ownership of the directory.  The second "root" means that the group "root" also has  ownership of that directory.
[21:19] <pancakes> tdjones, what is your username?  you can find out by typing: whoami
[21:19] <Gyges> Hattori, /var/mail/Hattori maybe
[21:19] <tdjones> pancakes okay, how can I change permissions to tomjones tomjones?
[21:20] <tdjones> pancakes because i notice in terminal it says tomjones tomjones before Desktop/firefox
[21:20] <imanc> why why why delilah
[21:20] <pancakes> tdjones, type: sudo chown tomjones:tomjones /home/tomjones/Desktop/recup_dir.1
[21:20] <L3top> Hattori: sudo tail -2 /var/mail/root     if... you know... you want root mail.
[21:20] <guntbert> imanc: please keep to ubuntu support here
[21:21] <malik_> Hi All, why  does ubuntu fail to authenticate a user while in GUI mode and accept the same password in the text mode ?
[21:21] <ActionParsnip> malik_: is this in the login screen, or during a desktop session?
[21:21] <pancakes> tdjones, the "sudo" at the start tells Ubuntu to execute the following command as another user -- as "root" by default.  You can't change the permissions on that directory unless you're root because root owns it.
[21:21] <Gyges> Krammer, is it the main partition?
[21:22] <guntbert> malik_: problems with keyboard layout?
[21:22] <tdjones> pancakes it asks for password, then I hit enter and get tomjones@tomjones-Product_Name:~$
[21:22] <RiXtEr-Home_> malik_, is it root perhaps?
[21:22] <Hattori> thanks
[21:22] <L3top> np
[21:23] <pancakes> tdjones, that most likely means it was successful.  Verify that the ownership changed by typing type ls -ld /home/tomjones/Desktop/recup_dir.1 once more
[21:23] <tdjones> oops I notice it says chown: missing operand after tomjones
[21:23] <pancakes> oh
[21:23] <ActionParsnip> tdjones: what folder are you chowning?
[21:23] <tdjones> I believe I'm supposed to be chowning recup_dir.1 no?
[21:24] <L3top> tdjones: give the exact command you are issuing please
[21:24] <guntbert> tdjones: copy and paste what pancakes showed you into the terminal
[21:24] <pancakes> tdjones, yes, that's right.
[21:24] <tdjones> sudo chown tomjones:tomjones/home/tomjones/Desktop/recup_dir.1
[21:24] <pancakes> tdjones, there needs to be a space between tomjones:tomjones and /home/tomjones/Desktop/recup_dir.1
[21:25] <L3top> space... he got it..
[21:25] <ActionParsnip> tdjones: you need a space between the group and the folder
[21:25] <ActionParsnip> malik_: so you can log in to CLI but not desktop?
[21:25] <L3top> for the record, to save some strokes you can sudo chown tomjones: ~/Desktop/recup_dir.1
[21:25] <L3top> assuming you are logged in as tomjones
[21:26] <ormris> Hi All. My printer will freeze after printing 10 pages or so. I've tryed printing multiple filetypes and different printer drivers, and it makes no difference.
[21:26] <L3top> still gotta have that space though :)
[21:26] <ormris> It works in Windows, though.
[21:26] <tdjones> sudo chown tomjones:tomjones /home/tomjones/Desktop/recup_dir.1 yields tomjones@tomjones-Product-Name:~$
[21:26] <ormris> I'm using the latest LTS.
[21:26] <malik_> ActionParsnip, I can login to the system because i deleted the password for the user. Actually it is happening since a long time. initially i had to type the password many time at the login screen  to get into the system. Which was quite annoying. So i deleted the password for the user. Now when i type sudo bash in the text mode it just goes to the # prompt but in the GUI mode it asks for a password an i can not do sudo in GUI mode.
[21:27] <ormris> The printer stoped working after the update.
[21:27] <ActionParsnip> malik_: then set a password for your user in root recovery mode (if necessary)
[21:27] <epaphus> Is there anyway i can install an earlier version then php5.3 on my system?
[21:27] <jagginess> ormris, make cups happy.
[21:27] <Gyges> malik_, sudo -i
[21:27] <ormris> jagginess: What would you suggest?
[21:27] <ActionParsnip> ormris: what make and model printer?
[21:27] <jagginess> ormris, cups
[21:27] <jagginess> :)
[21:27] <malik_> ActionParsnip, i tried that, but then i can not login. It just says Authentication failure.
[21:28] <jagginess> !cups
[21:28] <ormris> ActionParsnip: Canon MP600
[21:28] <ActionParsnip> malik_: in root recovery mode you can do it
[21:28] <ActionParsnip> ormris: why did you not add that to the initial question?
[21:28] <tdjones> pancakes what next?
[21:28] <pancakes> tdjones, verify that ownership changed by using ls again.
[21:28] <ormris> ActionParsnip: I forgot. I apologize.
[21:28] <tdjones> pancakes same command?
[21:28] <ActionParsnip> ormris: did you grab the driver deb files from the Canon website?
[21:28] <pancakes> tdjones,  yup.  you should see "tomjones tomjones" where you saw "root root".
[21:28] <ActionParsnip> ormris: full details in future and its all ok :)
[21:29] <ormris> ActionParsnip: No. I will try that now.
[21:29] <malik_> Gyges, sudo -i in text mode works but not in GUI
[21:29] <ActionParsnip> malik_: hold shift at boot, select recovery mode, select root
[21:29] <Gyges> gksu gksudo
[21:29] <pancakes> tdjones, command is: ls -ld /home/tomjones/Desktop/recup_dir.1
[21:29] <Gyges> malik_, ?
[21:29] <tdjones> Yes, now it says tomjones tomjones
[21:29] <ActionParsnip> malik_: you can now run:  passwd malik; reboot    and be ok. Obviously change malik if it's not your ubuntu username
[21:30] <tdjones> there's no lock on the folder anymore.
[21:30] <malik_> ActionParsnip, Gyges:  I can do anything at the recovery mode. but when i goto normal mode the password is not acceptd
[21:30] <pancakes> tdjones, FYI, the -l means "detailed output" and the -d means "give info about directories instead of giving info about their contents"..which is what you want because recpu_dir.1 is a directory, not a file)
[21:30] <Krammer> Gyges : I've installed Windows before Linux, 100 Mo to system part, 50 Go to Windows part and 300 go to my documents
[21:30] <tdjones> I have folder #2. to verity, type sudo chown tomjones:tomjones /home/tomjones/Desktop/recup_dir.2?
[21:30] <ActionParsnip> malik_: set a really simple password like: 12345   see if it works there
[21:30] <pancakes> tdjones, on the command line, you can combine options such as -l and -d into -ld or -dl; it doesn't matter.  you could have done the exact same thing by typing ls -l -d /home/tomjones/Desktop/recup_dir.1
[21:30] <Krammer> then I have installed automatically Ubuntu with Dual boot
[21:31] <tdjones> to verify not verity
[21:31] <ActionParsnip> tdjones: why not just use:  sudo chown -R tomjones:tomjones ~/Desktop
[21:31] <malik_> ActionParsnip, i tried with a very simple two letter password and even then i need to type the password many times before i could log in..
[21:31] <Gyges> Krammer, so gparted just doesn;t work, also youre not trying to resize the linux partition, are you?
[21:32] <ActionParsnip> malik_: you could make a new user in root recovery mode, add it to the admin group then set the password for your current user in GUI
[21:32] <ActionParsnip> malik_: also, do you have more than 10% free space on all partitions
[21:32] <tdjones> it worked thank you so much.!
[21:32] <Krammer> I want to reduce Linux partition, from 10X Go to 50 Go :)
[21:32] <pancakes> tdjones, actually, before you celebrate, you might want to make sure there are no problems with the ownership of files within the directory...
[21:32] <Gyges> Krammer, you might need to boot to livecd to do this
[21:32] <Krammer> Ow...
[21:33] <tdjones> pancakes how do I do that?
[21:33] <Krammer> With the LinuxLiveUSBKey it works ?
[21:33] <Gyges> does it have gparted?
[21:33] <ifdef42> Ctrl-Alt-s was bound to some tracker search tool by default; the shortcut didn't show up in the gnome kbd shortcuts though.
[21:34] <ifdef42> i uninstalled tracker, but still C-M-s is swallowed and doesn't make it to my Emacs. any suggestions?
[21:34] <pancakes> tdjones, type cd /home/tomjones/Desktop/recup_dir.1 to change the present working directory to /home/tomjones/Desktop/recup_dir.1...then use ls -l and ls -ld as necessary to check the ownership of some of hte contents
[21:34] <pancakes> tdjones, if you're absolutely certain that all of the contents in recup_dir.1
[21:34] <Guest54823> salve avrei bisogno di una mano
[21:34] <MonkeyDust> !it
[21:35] <tdjones> i already deleted recup_dir.1 and 2
[21:35] <pancakes> tdjones, if you're absolutely certain that all of the contents in recup_dir.1 should be owned by you, then you can just change the ownership of everything all at once by doing this: sudo chown -R tomjones:tomjones /home/tomjones/Desktop/recup_dir.1
[21:35] <malik_> ActionParsnip, Yes i have enough diskspace. I actually have created a new user already and is a member of admin group also, Now i try a password for it
[21:35] <pancakes> tdjones, then you're done :)
[21:35] <tdjones> thank you so much!
[21:35] <pancakes> tdjones, np
[21:35] <pancakes> tdjones, permissions in linux can be difficult sometimes
[21:35] <ifdef42> re: C-M-s above, interesting if i _bind_ it to something in gnome kbd shortcuts, that works. but unbinding it it's still getting eaten.
[21:36] <Krammer> Euh, no, and how should install it ?
[21:38] <thozethingz> I'm fairly new to ubuntu ... need help mounting a newly formatted drive ... I used the program gparted to create a new 1TB ext4 formatted harddrive .. however when I click to navitage into the drive within a file explorer, it says "unable to mount <drivename> not authorized" ... can someone give me a pointer?
[21:38] <malik_> ActionParsnip, Is there a switch or any advance and more powerful passwd command that can force password token updates on all locations.
[21:38] <Gyges> Krammer, any linux distribution in a usb key will do, ( i don't know what linuxliveusbkey is , is it this ? http://www.linuxliveusb.com/ ?)
[21:38] <prodnix> Hi all, when i try to install ubuntu I get a quick flash of "upgrade your bios, something something" then it drops to cli? any ideas?
[21:41] <ifdef42> prodnix: perhaps upgrade your bios? ;)
[21:41] <prodnix> :p
[21:41] <prodnix> its not that
[21:42] <ifdef42> probably that "something, something" is more informative
[21:43] <prodnix> "SM base address something something"
[21:43] <prodnix> its so fast :S
[21:43] <ThePendulum> I'm using psensor to monitor my system temperatures, but for whatever reason I'm seeing far less sensors than previously. Does anyone have experience with system monitoring on Ubuntu?
[21:44] <genii-around> prodnix: Might be able to hit the pause/break key to freeze it
[21:44] <prodnix> At this point i think I should mention this is a Xen VM with gfx-passthu
[21:44] <prodnix> ill try pause it
[21:45] <thozethingz> if I do sudo fdisk -l to see my disk partitions ... it says that my newly formatted disk "doesn't contian a valid partition table" ... what would this mean?
[21:45] <MonkeyDust> thozethingz  it isnt formatted in ext4 or so
[21:46] <naeem> how to automate multiple proxy servers in unbunt???
[21:46] <ActionParsnip> nsautomate in what way?
[21:46] <thozethingz> MonkeyDust .. didn't understand what you meant ... I used gparted to format it with an MSDOS partition table and EXT4 format
[21:47] <prodnix> [14.520574] piix4_smbus 0000:00:01.3: SMBus base address uninitialized
[21:47] <linux_is_my_hero> pancakes: hello again
[21:47] <MonkeyDust> thozethingz  msdos is not a linux thing
[21:48] <thozethingz> within the gparted program when I went to setup the new disk ... it says it is the default ... what partition table type should I use?
[21:48] <linux_is_my_hero> why won't my wifi card turn on if there's drivers for it?
[21:48] <MonkeyDust> thozethingz  format it during installation
[21:48] <ActionParsnip> linux_is_my_hero: what wifi chip?
[21:49] <linux_is_my_hero> braodcom 43xx
[21:49] <ActionParsnip> linux_is_my_hero: if you run:  dmesg | grep -i firm    do you see firmware missing in any lines?
[21:49] <linux_is_my_hero> actionparsnip: broadcom 43xx
[21:49] <thozethingz> I need to learn how to setup a disk after installation ... I can't re-install this computer .
[21:50] <jagginess> thozethingz, gpt would be fine
[21:50] <thozethingz> I will try ... one moment ... thanks
[21:50] <linux_is_my_hero> actionparsnip: there's a firmware bug for my video card, which seems to be working (its a laptop)
[21:50] <jagginess> thozethingz, btw you're installing multiple Oses mixed with non-linux?
[21:50] <linux_is_my_hero> actionparsnip: it doesn't even mention any other firmwares
[21:51] <ActionParsnip> linux_is_my_hero: cool, ok if you run:  sudo iwlist scan   do you see networks?
[21:51] <ActionParsnip> linux_is_my_hero: do you dual boot the system?
[21:51] <thozethingz> jagginess ... no, freshly installed ubuntu ... using gparted to help me format my disk
[21:52] <xezexal> My wifi isn't working
[21:52] <thozethingz> the disk is a 1TB disk (mirror raid)
[21:52] <ActionParsnip> xezexal: details please
[21:52] <Fenikkusu> Perhaps someone here can explain this strange issue. I've got a program that if I run in the terminal background ($ command &), it doesn't immediatly return to the shell. I have to hit enter a second time. Once I do, it returns. This is rather annoying as if I try to run it in a script, it essentially stops there.
[21:52] <linux_is_my_hero> actionparsnip: the computer i'm using to communicate with you right now is free of problems.  my laptop, however, is not so easy.  they are both ubuntu 11.10
[21:52] <jagginess> thozethingz, ahem if you do filesystem touches with gparted after setting up linux, you may need to fix grub later..
[21:52] <ActionParsnip> linux_is_my_hero: do you dual boot the laptop?
[21:52] <xezexal> ActionParsnip i installed all the drivers and it did work but it is not working now
[21:52] <linux_is_my_hero> actionparsnip: no
[21:53] <ActionParsnip> xezexal: what wifi chip? is it a laptop? which release
[21:53] <xezexal> It is a netbook
[21:53] <linux_is_my_hero> actionparsnip: iwlist says both lo and eth1 "interface doesn't support scanning"
[21:54] <SolarAquarion> Broadcom STA series?
[21:54] <SolarAquarion> ActionParsnip how do I find my exact one?
[21:55] <linux_is_my_hero> solaraquarion: i am having the same problem too with a broadcom sta series
[21:55] <ActionParsnip> SolarAquarion: sudo lshw -C network
[21:55] <thozethingz> I just tried reformatting the disk using gpt file partition table type ... still same problem .. if I do an fdisk -l it says the newly formatted disk "doesn't contain a valid parttion table" ... any other ideas?
[21:55] <ActionParsnip> SolarAquarion: what model netbok, there are hundreds...
[21:55] <Jman2213> So I'm trying to start a game server but when I type out the startup command line and try to run it I get an error "Segmentation fault" even though what I typed was to the letter of a very trusted tutorial. Ideas?
[21:56] <ActionParsnip> linux_is_my_hero: do you have a switch on the system to enable / disable wifi?
[21:56] <SolarAquarion> ActionParsnip BCM4312
[21:57] <rmh> hey there.. does anybody know if it is possible to create a user account to which I will not have any access even with "sudo"?
[21:57] <MonkeyDust> !install| thozethingz
[21:57] <beandog> rmh: give them a shell of /bin/false
[21:57] <beandog> rmh: I dunno how  you disable login though
[21:57] <ActionParsnip> !broadcom | SolarAquarion
[21:57] <beandog> rmh: I just always do it through webmin
[21:57] <ActionParsnip> SolarAquarion: easier is to get a wired connection and get updated, reboot then use that guide
[21:57] <ActionParsnip> SolarAquarion: those cheap broadcoms are a doddle to install
[21:58] <Fenikkusu> No thoughts on why $ command & would not immediately return?
[21:58] <ActionParsnip> beandog: i wouldn't suggest webmin
[21:58] <beandog> I would.
[21:58] <name_> << needs documentation/help setting up an ident server for xchat
[21:58] <beandog> Fenikkusu: what?
[21:58] <ActionParsnip> !webmin | beandog
[21:58] <beandog> don't care
[21:58] <ikonia> Fenikkusu: what command are you running
[21:58] <rmh> beandog: I am not sure I understand.. I want to create a second user account with all rights like sudo and stuff but I shall have no access to it..
[21:58] <beandog> its great, it works, and it's perfect fo noobs
[21:58] <beandog> :)
[21:58] <ActionParsnip> beandog: your call, but my recommendation is intelligent
[21:58] <ikonia> Webmin does not work well with ubuntu's layouts, and still has security issues
[21:58] <beandog> mine's practical
[21:58] <Fenikkusu> $ arachni_web &
[21:58] <ActionParsnip> !ebox | beandog
[21:58] <beandog> ActionParsnip: although I *totally* agree with you on the support level.
[21:59] <ikonia> Fenikkusu: I'm sorry, I don't know what that command is
[21:59] <beandog> ActionParsnip: ah thx man, haven't heard of this one
[21:59] <ActionParsnip> beandog: or just use SSH for super security. it will also allow the commands and skills yuo learn to be used in other systems as they are similar if not identical, rather than relying on a cumbersome gui
[21:59] <Fenikkusu> It's a custom ruby gem. Still, I would think that adding the & would make it so it would return to the shell immediatly
[21:59] <beandog> ActionParsnip: Yah, I'm pretty familiar with SSH. ;)
[21:59] <MonkeyDust> Fenikkusu  arachne web, isnt that a browser for dos?
[22:00] <Fenikkusu> MonkeyDust, arcahni_web - Web Security Vulnabilty Scanner
[22:00] <Fenikkusu> (Web UI)
[22:00] <ikonia> Fenikkusu: it really depends on what it does and how it runs
[22:01] <Fenikkusu> ikonia, Okay, Thank You.
[22:02] <linux_is_my_hero> actionparsnip: i do, its "fn" + "f2"
[22:02] <linux_is_my_hero> actionparsnip: its not doing anything :-(
[22:03] <merozone2002> hi
[22:04] <Gyges> hi merozone2002
[22:04] <ActionParsnip> linux_is_my_hero: is the system fully updated?
[22:04] <linux_is_my_hero> actionparsnip: yes
[22:04] <ActionParsnip> beandog: ssh is a sleeker solution dude and you won't garbage your OS
[22:04] <ActionParsnip> linux_is_my_hero: run:  dmesg | less     read through and you can see if and when and how the wifi is detected
[22:05] <beandog> ActionParsnip: agreed
[22:07] <litropy> I'm having serious trouble not being funny in here. I want to say things like, "I tried to cook an egg with my distro, and it's still runny and clear. Should I have something installed that I don't know about?" I really need to go to #ubuntu-offtopic with this attitude. Apologies; /endotconvo.
[22:07] <beandog> litropy: lol whut?
[22:07] <linux_is_my_hero> actionparsnip: is there a switch i can use to make it so i can scroll in the terminal window?
[22:07] <alexxxxx> Command "su" doesn't accept my password. Is it the same as for sudo?
[22:07] <ActionParsnip> linux_is_my_hero: yes, use cursors
[22:08] <ActionParsnip> alexxxxx: use:  sudo -i
[22:08] <beandog> alexxxxx: no
[22:08] <litropy> beandog, hah exactly
[22:08] <beandog> alexxxxx: su uses root password, sudo uses yours
[22:08] <ActionParsnip> alexxxxx: you won't get pasword feedback, just keep typing
[22:10] <linux_is_my_hero> actin parsnip: how do i do that?
[22:11] <linux_is_my_hero> actionparsnip: how do i do that?
[22:12] <ActionParsnip> linux_is_my_hero: when you run the command, use cursors up and down and it will scroll up and down. less is a pager app to manage reading lots of text
[22:16] <mathmoi> Hi, on my mother's Ubuntu system, the resolution is wrong for her user, but not in the login screen or when she log as myself. So I suppose some settings in her session is causing this. I tried to make her change the resolution in NVidia Server Settings and it did not help. Is there A file I could delete in her /home to reset the resolution configuration in her session?
[22:17] <pragmaticenigma> You should be able to use the Display application under settings to change the resolution
[22:17] <pragmaticenigma> or you can also use xrandr to change the resolution from the command line
[22:17] <sw> mathmoi: or '$ rm ~/.config/monitors.xml'
[22:17] <ikonia> mathmoi: if you remove /etc/X11/xorg.conf it will return xorg back to autodetection rather than hardcoded configuration
[22:17] <ActionParsnip> mathmoi: what GPU? does the system have a make and model?
[22:17] <mathmoi> I'll try xrandr since I'm trying to do this remotely via SSH.
[22:18] <pragmaticenigma> ikonia: The problem is local to a user, he should need to change anything system wide like that
[22:18] <mathmoi> sw: I'll try this too.
[22:18] <ikonia> pragmaticenigma: oh, the users set it
[22:18] <pragmaticenigma> mathmoi: if you are using SSH you will need to set the environment display variable or it won't do anything
[22:18] <mathmoi> ikonia: The system can safely boot without a xorg.conf?
[22:18] <pragmaticenigma> ikonia: yeah... the xorg file is system wide, but a user can adjust their own custom preference
[22:18] <ikonia> mathmoi: sure, but that is a a system wide setting rather than a user based one
[22:19] <ikonia> pragmaticenigma: I know what xorg is, I just didn't know the user had modified it
[22:19] <pragmaticenigma> mathmoi: Yes, you can boot without the xorg.conf file, however any custom settings will not be saved each time the machine is rebooted
[22:19] <ikonia> mathmoi: changing the xorg config would not be the way to solve an individual users settings
[22:19] <pragmaticenigma> ikonia: The user didn't modify it, they modified their local session setting that is saved seperately
[22:20] <mathmoi> ikonia: Ok, I'll try to delete the file sw suggested first.
[22:20] <ikonia> pragmaticenigma: I know, I understand what a "user modified" setting is and that i's not an xorg change
[22:20] <linux_is_my_hero> actionparsnip: i found it :-)
[22:20] <ikonia> pragmaticenigma: as I've just said I didn't know it was a user specific change,
[22:20] <pragmaticenigma> mathmoi: Deleting the Xorg.conf isn't going solve the issue
[22:20] <ikonia> mathmoi: I strongly advise you not to remove the xorg.conf
[22:20] <ericus> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=12063544 Please help me out with this
[22:21] <emme> anyone feel like helping me? just installed 12.04 and it's not detecting my external monitor..
[22:21] <sw> ericus: you're in chat, not on a forum. you can ask your question here :-)
[22:21] <ActionParsnip> mathmoi: does the system have a amke and model? What GPU does it use?
[22:21] <ericus> sw: I did that earlier
[22:22] <pragmaticenigma> ActionParsnip: It's just a user session setting... hardware doesn't matter at this point
[22:22] <linux_is_my_hero> actionparsnip: i found the ethernet card, but the wifi card isn't there
[22:22] <sw> ericus: it's unlikely people will waste their time going to that link to read what your problem is. you can ask it here and see if someone can help you, or if not, be patient and ask in a short while :-)
[22:23] <mathmoi> ActionParsnip: It's a machine I built. The card is an Nvidia, but I think it does not matters since it's fine in other sessions.
[22:23] <ericus> So again then: I have Ubuntu as host, ClearOS in virtualbox as gateway for my LAN. Everything work great, except that the host won't go trough the gateway; it gets another IP from my ISP. Any ideas why?
[22:23] <pragmaticenigma> ericus: Why are you trying to route all your traffic of the host machine into the VM hosted on the same machine... sounds like your setting yourself up for a some real trouble
[22:24] <ActionParsnip> mathmoi: there are nvidia configs in home, run:  nvidia-settings    and you should be able to config the res for the user
[22:24] <ActionParsnip> pragmaticenigma: looks like its significant :)
[22:24] <ikonia> no
[22:24] <ericus> pragmaticenigma: No, I just want ClearOS to act as firewall/GW for ALL my machines, including the host
[22:24] <pragmaticenigma> ActionParsnip: He doesn't need that... A single user account is not showing the preferred resolution, all other user accounts are unaffected
[22:24] <ikonia> it is NOT an x server problem
[22:24] <ActionParsnip> linux_is_my_hero: all I can suggest is shutdown and pull the power out, then the battery and leave it 10 mins, then plug it all back in and power up
[22:24] <ikonia> pragmaticenigma: is correct, it's a user based setting
[22:24] <pragmaticenigma> ericus: You can't
[22:25] <ericus> pragmaticenigma: yes, it is possible
[22:25] <ikonia> ericus: it's not
[22:25] <ikonia> ericus: as the traffic will come through the ubuntu interface before the virtual machine
[22:25] <ActionParsnip> pragmaticenigma: yes because each user has .nvidiarc  or somesuch in the root of $HOME
[22:25] <pragmaticenigma> ericus: What your going to potentially creat is a feedback loop... You host machine is hosting the VM, the VM has to connect out of the host machine which is directing all of its traffic to the VM
[22:26] <pragmaticenigma> ActionParsnip: I have never heard or seen that file, but he's also trying to solve this via SSH remotely
[22:26] <ericus> ikonia pragmaticenigma have a look at this diagram (second post) http://serverfault.com/questions/380383/virtualized-firewall-under-hyper-v
[22:26] <ericus> replace pfSense with ClearOS
[22:26] <ActionParsnip> pragmaticenigma: you can run X based apps due to X forwarding
[22:26] <ikonia> ericus: do what you want,
[22:27] <ikonia> ericus: it won't work, but go for it
[22:27] <ikonia> may as well just get on with it
[22:27] <ikonia> ericus: no point asking "how do I do it" if you won't accept it won't work
[22:27] <pragmaticenigma> ActionParsnip: that works sort of... part of the problem is without the display variable correctly set it will not know what display is using... if I try to load nvdia settings when Xforward it complains that it can't find the local display
[22:27] <ericus> ikonia: okay, I'll take your word for it
[22:27] <ikonia> ericus: try it
[22:28] <ActionParsnip> pragmaticenigma: did you run:  export DISPLAY=0.0
[22:28] <ericus> ikonia: no, you said it woulnd't work
[22:28] <ikonia> good
[22:28] <ericus> Strange thing though
[22:28] <fishbait> okay i have a 500gb external drive and my os is on 80gb drive and /home on 500gb internal drive how should i back this up?
[22:28] <pragmaticenigma> for me that will direct the display to the local machine which I do not have physical access to
[22:28] <fishbait> from internals to externals
[22:29] <ikonia> fishbait: just copy the data you want to the external disk
[22:29] <ActionParsnip> fishbait: wow 80Gb for /, that's a lot
[22:29] <ericus> If I go to whatismyip.com from the host, it shows the IP from ClearOS
[22:29] <ericus> but
[22:29] <ikonia> ericus: why are you going on about this, you just said you understood it wouldn't work
[22:29] <pragmaticenigma> ericus: That configuration is using VLAN, which I highly doubt you have the ability to use on your local network
[22:29] <ericus> if I SSH to that IP, no reply
[22:29] <ikonia> ericus: if you disagree, get on with doing it
[22:29] <ericus> the other IP works though
[22:30] <ericus> ikonia: i dont disagree!
[22:30] <fishbait> can i copy the whole os?
[22:30] <ericus> i have no intent to be rude
[22:30] <ikonia> ericus: then why are you going on about it
[22:30] <ActionParsnip> fishbait: if you boot to liveCD/USb, sure
[22:31] <ericus> Should I maybe go for shorewall instead?
[22:31] <ikonia> ericus: the firewall doesn't matter
[22:31] <ericus> and install that on ubuntu
[22:31] <ikonia> ericus: the concept of what you want to do is flawed
[22:31] <pragmaticenigma> ericus: On the site you directed me to check out, they have that all setup with a VLAN, which allows a single computer to utilize mutiple IPs over one NIC.. That requires special hardware on the network to accomplish that... if your attempting to this on a home network it is not going to work
[22:31] <mathmoi> sw, your solution worked.
[22:31] <ericus> ikonia: shorewall is not a distro
[22:31] <ikonia> ericus: I know
[22:31] <mathmoi> Thanks for your help guys.
[22:32] <ikonia> ericus: that's why I said "the firewall doesn't matteR"
[22:32] <fishbait> ... hmm well my primary concern is a kernal update that just showed up and being able to roll back if anything goes horribly wrong on top of that i have to re-compile my nic drivers each time
[22:32] <ActionParsnip> mathmoi: nice you setup ssh to help out :)
[22:32] <ikonia> fishbait: the kernel update will always keep kernel+1 so you can always boot from the previous kernel
[22:32] <ericus> I just need to have a server for my LAN
[22:32] <fishbait> will it show in the boot menu?
[22:32] <ikonia> ericus: you've got one....your ubuntu machine
[22:32] <ericus> And ClearOS does the job
[22:32] <ikonia> fishbait: yes
[22:33] <Creamfiller> fishbait  your isp has been having problems I see
[22:33] <ikonia> ericus: then why are you running ubuntu if you want to use clearos
[22:33] <fishbait> okay ty new query
[22:33] <mathmoi> ActionParsnip: Yep, I solved a problem more than once, buy sshing into her machine.
[22:33] <Creamfiller> you will probably disconnect in any moment fishbait
[22:33] <ericus> ikonia: because clearos isn't a destop OS
[22:33] <mathmoi> I have one of my uncle machine settuped the same way too.
[22:33] <ericus> desktop*
[22:33] <fishbait> creamfiller: no i have an r8168 realtek onboard nic pita
[22:33] <ikonia> ericus: why don't you just run the server functionality you want on your ubuntu desktop ?
[22:34] <ActionParsnip> mathmoi: you can mount the SSHFS too and backup their user data for them if you want too :)
[22:34] <ericus> ikonia: I'm doing that, besides that the host is not behind ClearOS
[22:34] <ikonia> ericus: of course it's not, clearos is a vm on the host,
[22:34] <ericus> What good GUI tools are there for IPtables?
[22:35] <ikonia> ericus: "ubuntu firewall"
[22:35] <ratcheer> ericus: gufw
[22:35] <pragmaticenigma> ericus and ikonia : this is a support group for Ubuntu, please take your !offtopic someplace else. Thank you
[22:35] <ericus> Sorry pragmaticenigma
[22:35] <ActionParsnip> !iptables
[22:35] <fishbait> ... cream you should know i'm proxied by freenode nad have a firewall
[22:35] <zax1> i am having a hell of a time with a fresh install of edubuntu on a dell d630 laptop... the wifi does not want to work. i tried reinstalling it but now i cant even see a wifi option up in the network option, help !@!
[22:36] <pragmaticenigma> zax1: Are you able to identify the WiFi card?
[22:36] <pragmaticenigma> zax1: or do you know what WiFi acrd is installed on your machine?
[22:36] <Creamfiller> are you there fishbait?
[22:36] <zax1> yeah its a broadcom 4311
[22:36] <fishbait> yep
[22:36] <Creamfiller> fishbait   no cockiness
[22:36] <ikonia> pragmaticenigma: there is nothing offtopic about this discussion
[22:36] <Creamfiller> shson how is your internet connection?
[22:37] <ikonia> ericus: your questions are fine for #ubuntu
[22:37] <Creamfiller> chson how is your internet connection?
[22:37] <fishbait> creamfiller: i only saw a bunch of pings
[22:37] <name_> anyone have a successful ident tutorial bookmarked?  i've tried 2 with no dice.
[22:37] <pragmaticenigma> zax1: Broadcom requires a proprietary driver to be installed,
[22:37] <ActionParsnip> zax1: what wifi chip is it?
[22:37] <Creamfiller> fishbait those were to determine if you were still there or not
[22:37] <ActionParsnip> !broadcom
[22:37] <ericus> okay ikonia
[22:37] <zax1> ActionParsnip: yes i know i went through this document
[22:38] <zax1> i am on edubuntu if that makes any diference ?
[22:38] <ActionParsnip> zax1: did you install the packages named?
[22:38] <ericus> ikonia: i know that in win2k8r2 server you'd be able to have a guest OS to act as a firewall even for the host
[22:38] <ActionParsnip> zax1: its just different default packages, the underlying OS is identical
[22:38] <ericus> problem is that ClearOS does not work very well in hyper-v
[22:38] <Creamfiller> what happened to fishbait?
[22:38] <name_> tried this: https://vornoff.wordpress.com/2011/11/23/ident-daemon-for-debian-and-ubuntu-linux-ident2/
[22:38] <name_> fail
[22:38] <ikonia> Creamfiller: can you stop questioning fishbait and his connection stability please.
[22:39] <zax1> ActionParsnip: i did apt-get install firmware-b43-installer and    pt-get install firmware-b43-installer
[22:39] <Creamfiller> ikonia  fishbait isn't connected now
[22:39] <Creamfiller> that is why I questioned him
[22:39] <Creamfiller> his isp has been having problems
[22:39] <ikonia> Creamfiller: yes he is, and it doesn't matter if he is or isn't
[22:39] <ActionParsnip> zax1: cool, then it will work provided you enabled the install CD as a software source
[22:40] <zax1> i ran aptget update first - i thouht that points it to the net
[22:40] <ActionParsnip> zax1: by default yes, do you have a web connection?
[22:40] <zax1> yes through the ethernet
[22:40] <ActionParsnip> zax1: great, makes life a tonne easier. get fully updated first. Helps a lot
[22:41] <zax1> i am on this machine now, after the install it told me the firmware is missing for the wifi, and after i aptED it , its now all gone, i can even see the wireless option in the networking section
[22:42] <zax1> can=cant
[22:42] <Guy-who-needs-he> I installed Mupen64plus development package off the software center and can't find it, where did it go?
[22:42] <Creamfiller> zax1  you are next!
[22:43] <zax1> next 4...?
[22:43] <Creamfiller> you will see
[22:43] <OerHeks> zax1, after installing firmware, did you reboot?
[22:43] <Guy-who-needs-he> ?
[22:43] <pragmaticenigma> Creamfiller: That's not very nice
[22:43] <ikonia> Guy-who-needs-he: I don't see that package in the repos
[22:43] <zax1> OerHeks: i did
[22:43] <ActionParsnip> zax1: then run: sudo apt-get insyall b43-fwcutter bcmwl-kernel-source
[22:43] <Creamfiller> what is not nice pragmaticenigma?
[22:43] <ActionParsnip> zax1: should be ok after a reboot
[22:43] <zax1> ActionParsnip: i ran that as well
[22:44] <Guy-who-needs-he> ikonia, it's there and i downloaded it its "Mupen64plus development package"
[22:44] <ikonia> Guy-who-needs-he: libmupen64plus-dev that one ?
[22:44] <ActionParsnip> zax1: can you use http://pastie.org  and give the output of:  sudo lshw -C network; lsb_relese -a; uname -a; sudo rfkill list; grep -R blacklist /etc/modprobe.d/*
[22:45] <Guy-who-needs-he> ikonia, no its exactley "Mupen64plus development package"
[22:45] <ikonia> Guy-who-needs-he: that is not he package name, that's the package description
[22:45] <name_> anyone have a successful ident tutorial bookmarked?  i've tried 2 with no dice.
[22:46] <Creamfiller> zax1  mexican packets are on their way
[22:46] <Guy-who-needs-he> ikonia, i cheked again thats it
[22:46] <Guy-who-needs-he> ikonia, where did it go?
[22:47] <ikonia> Guy-who-needs-he: what do you mean where did it go ? what are you expecting
[22:47] <ikonia> Guy-who-needs-he: it's a set of development libraries that are dumped into /usr/lib
[22:47] <Guy-who-needs-he> ikonia, where do i find it on my comp?
[22:47] <ericus> If I run full disk encryption on my system disk, is it possible to encrypt other drives as well and have them automatically decrypted on boot?
[22:47] <Guy-who-needs-he> ikonia, where is that?
[22:47] <ikonia> Guy-who-needs-he: /usr/lib
[22:47] <ikonia> that is the location for the libraries
[22:47] <Guy-who-needs-he> ikonia, in my home?
[22:48] <ikonia> Guy-who-needs-he: no, in /usr/lib
[22:48] <ikonia> your home is /home
[22:48] <zax1> ActionParsnip: sorry for delay
[22:48] <zax1> http://pastie.org/4174015
[22:48] <ActionParsnip> zax1: did you try the additional drivers app?
[22:48] <Guy-who-needs-he> ikonia, Sorry but how do i find that?
[22:49] <zax1> additional drivers app ? no
[22:49] <ikonia> Guy-who-needs-he: you look in the /usr/lib directory, the lib directory in /usr
[22:49] <Guy-who-needs-he> ikonia, Where in the dash or where do i search that?
[22:50] <ikonia> Guy-who-needs-he: ????? open a file manager, go to /usr, then go to lib in that directory
[22:50] <zax1> from software centre - (jockey-gtk) ?
[22:51] <zax1> actually it says its installed
[22:52] <Guy-who-needs-he> ikonia, How do i run it?
[22:52] <ikonia> Guy-who-needs-he: you don't, it's a software library
[22:53] <OerHeks> zax1, i managed wireless, with starting disable ethernet cable, checked wireless on and just waited for the message available networks, this took 10-15 seconds
[22:53] <zax1> ActionParsnip: thats the prog i run from system settings-->hardware
[22:53] <Guy-who-needs-he> ikonia, I don't get it mupen 64 is a n64 emulator
[22:53] <Guy-who-needs-he> ikonia, did i get the wrong thing?
[22:53] <zax1> OerHeks: disable - or disconnected ?
[22:53] <ikonia> Guy-who-needs-he: yes, and you've just installed the development libraries (libraries for developing software)
[22:54] <th0r> ikonia: get your palm off your face :-)
[22:54] <zax1> OerHeks: your laptop bios may have the wifi-lan switch that it disable your wifi in the presence of lan....i checked that option in my bios to disabled, and tried that already. :|
[22:54] <Guy-who-needs-he> ikonia, Do you know where to get the real thing?
[22:55] <ikonia> Guy-who-needs-he: look at the package mupen64plus
[22:55] <zax1> worth another try though. be right back
[22:55] <zax1> worth another try though. be right back
[22:55] <Guy-who-needs-he> ikonia, Where do i find it i have been searching
[22:56] <ikonia> Guy-who-needs-he: just type "sudo apt-get install mupen64plus"
[22:56] <Guy-who-needs-he> ikonia Oh thanks
[22:58] <Guy-who-needs-he> ikonia, How do i run it now?
[22:58] <ikonia> it should either be a menu option or you run it by typing the application name
[22:59] <ActionParsnip> Guy-who-needs-he: search dash
[23:00] <Atron> Can anybody help me with a little problem that could be big?
[23:00] <zax1_> back - OerHeks that did not make a difference
[23:00] <zax1> ActionParsnip: does my output in  pastie reveal any truthes
[23:01] <Guy-who-needs-he> ActionParsnip> that doesn't do anything
[23:01] <ActionParsnip> zax1: can you paste the url of the paste in the channel
[23:01] <zax1> http://pastie.org/4174015
[23:01] <zax1> sorry .... i thought i di that :|
[23:02] <Guy-who-needs-he> ActionParsnip>  mupen64plus
[23:02] <Guy-who-needs-he> ActionParsnip>sorry didn't mean to put that here
[23:03] <name_> anyone have a successful ident tutorial bookmarked?  i've tried 2 with no dice.
[23:03] <Guy-who-needs-he> ActionParsnip> Do you know how to run it?
[23:03] <ormris> ActionParsnip: Hi. I'm back. I installed the drivers from the Cannon website. They don't work. When I press print, cups says that the printing was completed and the printer does nothing.
[23:03] <TheLordOfTime> name_:  "ident tutorial"?
[23:03] <zax1> ActionParsnip: i just noticed this here : ---> /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist-bcm43.conf:blacklist b43
[23:03] <zax1> is that a problem
[23:03] <zax1> ?
[23:03] <ActionParsnip> zax1: maybe you are holding the driver back with the /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist-bcm43.conf  file, you could try commenting out one of the lines in it and rebooting to testy
[23:03] <name_> tried this: https://vornoff.wordpress.com/2011/11/23/ident-daemon-for-debian-and-ubuntu-linux-ident2/
[23:04] <name_> fail
[23:04] <ActionParsnip> Guy-who-needs-he: could run it from terminal
[23:04] <TheLordOfTime> name_:  is your router blocking port 113?
[23:04] <TheLordOfTime> most routers do
[23:04] <zax1> action is this done do i just open the file in a notepad app ?
[23:04] <ActionParsnip> zax1: if thats the driver module it uses then comment it out to allow the kernel to load it
[23:04] <Guy-who-needs-he> ActionParsnip> where do i put the rom to run the game?
[23:04] <ActionParsnip> Guy-who-needs-he: it will launch a GUI afaik
[23:05] <Guy-who-needs-he> ActionParsnip> So anywhere?
[23:05] <ActionParsnip> Guy-who-needs-he: i think the GUI has a config for the rom files
[23:06] <Guy-who-needs-he> ActionParsnip> so where would i put it?
[23:07] <name_> TheLordOfTime:  thanks.  the  intent is to anonymise my cable provider in irc.  am i on the right track?
[23:07] <zax1> that open read only how do i get to save stuff in the blacklist file ?
[23:07] <TheLordOfTime> name_:  nope
[23:07] <TheLordOfTime> name_:  far from it actually, you need either tor or a cloak
[23:08] <TheLordOfTime> and even with a cloak, you still arent 100% anonymous
[23:09] <Guy-who-needs-he> ActionParsnip> do i put the directory in the .cfg for mupen?
[23:09] <name_> TheLordOfTime: tanks
[23:09] <damms005> Guys,  please how much does Linux Sys Admin 1 Certification cost?
[23:10] <TheLordOfTime> name_:  if you /whois me, you'll see something like this on the first line* [TheLordOfTime] (LordOfTime@trekweb/administrator/ubuntu.lordoftime): The Lord of Time
[23:10] <zax1> ActionParsnip: is it only the b43 that needs commenting out or the rest of the bc files ?
[23:10] <TheLordOfTime> name_:  where it says<EMAIL_ADDRESS>the LordOfTime part at the part before the @ indicates my ident (which is what the ident daemon tells Freenode)
[23:10] <ActionParsnip> Guy-who-needs-he: Why not just try it and see what you can do, instead of asking...
[23:10] <OerHeks> damms005, lot of time, but worth it every minute !
[23:11] <ActionParsnip> zax1: I'd imagine so...
[23:11] <TheLordOfTime> name_:  the trekweb/administrator/... part is my cloak.  that hides the IP from the public when youi're identified on freenode's nickserv
[23:11] <TheLordOfTime> (when you have a cloak)