[04:26] <LjL> ubuntu_: if my guess is correct that you're italian, i suggest using it.archive.ubuntu.com or se.archive.ubuntu.com (this is for sweden and usually fast)
[04:27] <ubuntu_> thanks you're very kind but how did u know i'm italian?
[04:27] <LjL> ubuntu_: type /whois ubuntu_
[04:27] <ubuntu_> ah yes
[04:27] <waylandbill> probably from your hostname
[04:28] <ubuntu_> you're italian too LjL :P
[04:28] <LjL> yes ;)
[04:28] <LjL> that's why i know the swedish mirror is fast for italy
[04:28] <waylandbill> :-)
[04:29] <waylandbill> anyone see yesterday's dilbert? it was priceless.
[04:29] <gdiebel> waylandbill: link?
[04:29] <eeos> waylandbill link?
[04:29] <sahin_w> +1
[04:30] <gdiebel> http://www.unitedmedia.com/comics/dilbert/
[04:30] <waylandbill> http://dilbert.com/comics/dilbert/archive/dilbert-20070125.html
[04:30] <Morbo> woooo
[04:30] <Morbo> KDE 3.5.6
[04:31] <eeos> that is really funny :P
[04:31] <gdiebel> waylandbill: that is yesterday
[04:31] <sahin_w> Yes, that was fun.
[04:31] <waylandbill> that's the one that was funny
[04:31] <gdiebel> yeah sorry, misread
[04:32] <eeos> yesterday's was hilarious
[04:32] <gdiebel> we got that one from our branch office yesterday.
[04:33] <waylandbill> a few days ago when the alien first showed up and told asok that he's an alien with advanced knowledge was good too.
[04:33] <eeos> waylandbill lik?:P:)
[04:33] <eeos> waylandbill (lik was not alien language, was = link)
[04:34] <LjL> LeeJunFan: from the k-a description, "The media control applet does not support XMMS, as this would force all kicker-applets users to install XMMS" - does this make any sense? have they never heard of recommends? :o)
[04:35] <plamen> zdraveite
[04:35] <waylandbill> http://dilbert.com/comics/dilbert/archive/dilbert-20070123.html
[04:39] <hero93> how do i play mp3 files on kubuntu?
[04:40] <stdin> !mp3
[04:40] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[04:40] <Daskreech2> hero93: Try amarok
[04:40] <waylandbill> hero93: the quick and dirty is to attempt to play in amarok
[04:40] <waylandbill> it'll then guide you the rest of the way
[04:40] <stdin> ^ if you run edgy
[04:40] <waylandbill> stdin: correct. edgy.
[04:41] <hero93> i tried to install mp3 support on amarok but it doesn't works
[04:41] <Asl[a] n> how do i get the latest bleeding edge repos for kubuntu? i am specifically looking for amarok
[04:41] <stdin> Asl[a] n: you on edgy ?
[04:41] <Asl[a] n> yep.
[04:41] <gdiebel> Asl[a] n: kubuntu.org has 1.4.4. check amarok.kde.org for svn packages
[04:41] <stdin> Asl[a] n: deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/amarok-latest/ edgy main
[04:42] <stdin> hero93: did you install libxine-extracodecs ?
[04:43] <DaSkreech> hero93: Want some help with that?
[04:43] <hero93> yes
[04:43] <hero93> so i don't understand nothing on the guide
[04:43] <DaSkreech> hero93: Where do you stop understanding ?
[04:44] <hero93> let me check if i installed libxine-extracodecs
[04:44] <extern> how can I check my disk for errors? I installed ext2 drivers for windows, it used to work fine, I could browse the files on windows, but suddenly it can't recognize the ext3 partition, when trying to access it through windows, it says that the drive is unformatted.
[04:44] <hatta> fdisk
[04:45] <hatta> can you still see the partition in windows?
[04:45] <slyfox> I just installed Kubuntu and I have ajva and flash installed, however this site http://www.newshutch.com/ refuses to work in firefox, it laods fine but when I click on somehting, nothing clicks, it works fine in Konqueror. Please help
[04:45] <extern> yes
[04:45] <hero93> wait package database is blocked i'll come later the basketball training see u soon
[04:45] <hatta> oh, then cfdisk
[04:45] <hatta> er
[04:45] <Asl[a] n> i do wonder how you folks come up with all the release names. lol. feisty herd :P - one day, i bet you'll run out of 'em cool names.
[04:45] <hatta> e2fsck
[04:46] <extern> the partition is actually ext3
[04:46] <extern> but it used to work fine with those ext2 drivers
[04:47] <matt0507> hwo should i update my systemt to recongise my ati video card (x300se) currently doesnt have openGL support
[04:47] <waylandbill> because ext3 is ext2 with journaling
[04:47] <matt0507> !ati
[04:47] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[04:49] <slyfox> matt0507: here you go http://albertomilone.com/nvidia_scripts1.html
[04:49] <extern> how can I schedule a disk check for when my computer is booting up?
[04:49] <stdin> slyfox: isn't that the nvidia one?
[04:49] <Jucato> extern: a partition is checked every 30th mount
[04:49] <Jucato> at bootup
[04:50] <extern> and how can I manually set it to be checked next tiem I boot?
[04:50] <stdin> extern: shutdown with "sudo shutdown -F -r"
[04:50] <slyfox> stdin: it says both - ati and nvidia
[04:50] <slyfox> I just installed Kubuntu and I have ajva and flash installed, however this site http://www.newshutch.com/ refuses to work in firefox, it laods fine but when I click on somehting, nothing clicks, it works fine in Konqueror. Please help
[04:50] <extern> ok, I'll give ti at try
[04:51] <LeeJunFan> LjL: heh, yeah, that's lame (lag == shower).
[04:51] <stdin> slyfox: just tried the site, seems to work here
[04:51] <slyfox> stdin: crap, whenever I click on something, this http://www.newshutch.com/ loads to this http://www.newshutch.com/#
[04:51] <slyfox> tat is it
[04:52] <slyfox> stdin: how do I check which flash version I have and which java ?
[04:53] <Jucato> about:plugins
[04:53] <stdin> slyfox: in firefox you can use the url about:plugins
[04:53] <extern> stdin, it didn't work
[04:53] <Jucato> actually, you can do that in Konqueror too :)
[04:53] <Jucato> extern: what didn't work?
[04:53] <extern> sudo shutdown -F -r
[04:54] <extern> it didn't check the file system
[04:54] <Jucato> hm..
[04:54] <waylandbill> is there a reason to? do you have an error?
[04:54] <extern> I think so
[04:54] <magnus_> what wireless program should i use to connect whit, when i need to connnect true wpa cryptering
[04:54] <waylandbill> it'll tell you even if it's mounted if you run it now.
[04:55] <Jucato> extern: did you have bootsplash disabled so you could see if it was checking or not?
[04:55] <extern> when it is checking, then it shows the progress of it, I think
[04:55] <extern> and the booting time was exactly the same as always
[04:56] <extern> how can I check it manually?
[04:56] <tomvs> hi there
[04:57] <extern> I'm afraid of that scary warning when running fsck:WARNING!!!  Running e2fsck on a mounted filesystem may cause SEVERE filesystem damage
[04:57] <waylandbill> use -n then
[04:58] <extern> it does report some errors
[04:58] <stdin> extern: you can run it from the live cd
[04:58] <extern> I don't have a live cd :P
[04:58] <stdin> don't you have the install CD ?
[04:58] <extern> not any mroe :)
[04:59] <extern> ********** WARNING: Filesystem still has errors **********
[05:00] <hive> Hi all.  I am looking in my TCPDUMP because my wireless card seems to be flashing alot, and I am seeing alot of messages like:  10:52:29.088666 IP by1msg5176513.phx.gbl.msnp > <IP_ADDRESS>.49165: P 3303:3311(8) ack 265 win 64164 <nop,nop,timestamp 46008748 25863001> .. Can anyone tell me what this is please
[05:00] <slyfox> What is the correct way to isntall latest java? Adept ?
[05:01] <matt0507> adept make it much quicker, dont forget to instal firefox plugin as well
[05:01] <slyfox> Is this correct? "sudo apt-get install sun-java5-jre sun-java5-plugin" ?
[05:01] <slyfox> Or should I use Adept ?
[05:02] <ForgeAus> sly either way... as long as you have a repository that can find them
[05:02] <stdin> slyfox: sometimes adept can't accept the licence, best to do it in konsole
[05:02] <slyfox> thsi one "sudo apt-get install sun-java5-jre sun-java5-plugin" ?
[05:02] <extern> when would it be safe to run fsck?
[05:02] <extern> when almost no programs are running?
[05:03] <stdin> extern: the filesystem shouldn't be mounted at all, at at least mounted as read only
[05:03] <waylandbill> no. not if mounted.
[05:03] <stdin> slyfox: yeah
[05:03] <extern> should I run ubuntu in recovery mode and unmount all file systems?
[05:04] <stdin> extern: you could try adding a empty file called "forcefsck" in the root
[05:04] <extern> ok
[05:08] <extern> creating forcefsck in root worked
[05:08] <extern> thanks
[05:08] <stdin> np :)
[05:17] <maki2> hola
[05:18] <Dr_willis> egads.. every so often i have to go back to using windows to fix stuff for other people.. and EGADS! what was MS thinking...
[05:18] <Dr_willis> :)
[05:18] <ejer> can someone tell me how to force all links to open in firefox, not konqueror? I have set defaul app, did nada
[05:18] <Dr_willis> 'there are unused icons on your desktop'  -  HOW the &@&@& does it know they are unused! and thers only 3 icons!  heh heh
[05:18] <ForgeAus> Xlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0".
[05:19] <ejer> as far as I'm concerned, this is a bug
[05:19] <Jucato> ejer: sudo dpkg-alternatives --config x-www-browser
[05:19] <ejer> Jucato: thank you, will try
[05:20] <Dr_willis> ejer,  as far as im concerned its due to different 'ways' of defining whats the default browser in kde and gnome and other apps.  But i think Jucato  has the idea. :)
[05:20] <nihil_sum> Is there a way to change the current user of a currently running process?  Like to give my text editor a sudo so I have write access to save.
[05:20] <stdin> ejer: it's update-alternatives --config x-www-browser
[05:20] <Jucato> ejer: sorry
[05:20] <Dr_willis> I really need to read up on the update-alternatives stuff someday
[05:20] <stdin> Jucato: not dpkg :P
[05:20] <Jucato> stdin: sorry..
[05:20] <ejer> ok
[05:20] <Jucato> ejer: use stdin's command
[05:20] <LjL> nihil_sum: dunno. i normally change the file's permissions temporarily, when i do that...
[05:20] <ejer> why doesn't KDE control center do this??
[05:20] <ejer> man what a pain
[05:21] <Dr_willis> kde cant controll what gnome stuff does and other apps.. the update-alternatives works at a lower level.
[05:21] <Jucato> ejer: because
[05:21] <Dr_willis> from what i gaterh.
[05:21] <Jucato> ejer: what Dr_willis said
[05:21] <Dr_willis> gather.
[05:21] <ejer> still doesn't make sense
[05:21] <nihil_sum> Can't it just put a shell over update-alternatives?
[05:21] <ejer> KDE control center should just call that command
[05:21] <Dr_willis> the 'proper' way for a program to launch a browser is to run that x-www-browser binary, NOT a specific browser name.
[05:21] <ejer> simple and done
[05:21] <Jucato> ejer: KDE COntrol Center, logically, only controls KDE apps. so when you set Firefox to be your default browser, all KDE apps will obey that
[05:21] <ejer> yes but when you run KDE control center, you are in KDE
[05:22] <ejer> Jucato: this is not true
[05:22] <ejer> try it
[05:22] <stdin> ejer: some people have gnome too
[05:22] <Jucato> ejer: excuse me?
[05:22] <ejer> every link opens in konq
[05:22] <Jucato> ejer: every link from what app?
[05:22] <ejer> "when you set Firefox to be your default browser, all KDE apps will obey that"
[05:22] <ejer> that does not work
[05:22] <ejer> use update-alternatives to set browser to konq
[05:22] <Jucato> from what app are you clicking the link?
[05:22] <ejer> then go change it in KDE control center
[05:22] <ejer> any app!!!
[05:22] <ejer> Gaim, thunderbord
[05:23] <ejer> bird
[05:23] <ejer> anything
[05:23] <Jucato> ejer: GAIM and Thunderbird are NOT KDE apps
[05:23] <stdin> both are GTK apps (Non KDE)
[05:23] <Jucato> did you try Kopete? Konversation?
[05:23] <ejer> hehe
[05:23] <ejer> this is not intuitive
[05:23] <ejer> I don't use any kde apps
[05:23] <Jucato> ??
[05:23] <nihil_sum> So... no way to give rights to an already running process?
[05:23] <Jucato> then why on earth...
[05:23] <Jucato> nvm
[05:23] <Skrot-> Then why do you use kubuntu? :P
[05:24] <ejer> and I have been using linux for a long time...
[05:24] <ejer> because I like KDE
[05:24] <ejer> I don't consider either thunder or firefox a gnome app
[05:24] <stdin> nihil_sum: not that I know of, you could save the file somewhere you have wright permission and then copy with sudo
[05:24] <LjL> nihil_sum, can't you just do what i said? i know it's not the best idea, but it works if you can't find an alternative way
[05:24] <Jucato> no one said they were GNOME apps
[05:24] <ejer> they are GTK based, that is it
[05:24] <Skrot-> They're using GTK, but they're not gnome-apps
[05:24] <ejer> so then KDE control center should be able to change their defaults
[05:24] <nihil_sum> Yeah.  You gave me a working solution.  I just wish I could do it the other way.
[05:24] <ejer> I can understand it would not change rhythmbox
[05:24] <Jucato> ejer: the are NOT KDE apps
[05:24] <Dr_willis> microsoft updates
[05:25] <ejer> Jucato: so what?
[05:25] <Dr_willis> doh wrong keyboard.. :)
[05:25] <nihil_sum> I'm trying to learn all the Linux functionality, since I recently switched from Windows and plan to stay on Linux from here on.
[05:25] <Jucato> NOT KDE Apps = GTK or GNOME apps
[05:25] <ejer> and therefore KDE cannot control the settings for them???
[05:25] <stdin> kde control controls kde apps, the clue is in the name
[05:25] <Dr_willis> nihil_sum,  good for you. :)
[05:25] <ejer> anyways
[05:25] <Jucato> ejer: yes
[05:25] <ejer> I hope the newbies can figure it out
[05:26] <Jucato> ejer: if you have used Linux as long as you said you have, you would have known that little piece of fact by now
[05:26] <Jucato> granted, it's not the best way to do it (update-alternatives) but that goes beyond KDE's responsibility already
[05:26] <Dr_willis> i have the exact same problem under windows not using the proper browser ejer  so its a rather interesting 'problem'
[05:26] <ejer> Jucato: really? OK! Guess I am dumb
[05:27] <Jucato> Dr_willis: no. Windows is just crazy, by nature
[05:27] <Jucato> ejer: no offense meant. sorry
[05:27] <ejer> Jucato: I guess we will require all users to come ask in IRC for how to change their default browser, and then tell them they have to use the tewrminal... not good
[05:27] <ejer> I am trying to advocate users move to ubuntu
[05:27] <Dr_willis> to update the default browser for KDE and KDE apps they use the kde settings thing.
[05:27] <Jucato> ejer: there are threads in the forums, Google, etc. but like I said, it's not ideal
[05:28] <Jucato> ejer: but the fact remains, it's hardly KDE's fault
[05:28] <Dr_willis> gnome has the same issue. i recall. but it defaults to firefox anyway/
[05:28] <Dr_willis> Try setting gnome to use opera by default.
[05:28] <ejer> yep
[05:28] <ejer> so I will be writing some post install scripts I guess, just too bad the 'user-friendly' distro is so hard to configure a simple thing
[05:28] <Dr_willis> Now that Freedesktop.org site is working on smoothing out all these little issues..  look at the problems we had 2-5 years ago with kde/gnome
[05:28] <sahin_w> I think you can change the default browser from kcontrol.
[05:29] <Dr_willis> sahin_w,  you can for kde apps.
[05:29] <sahin_w> I see
[05:29] <Dr_willis> but thats not the same as the 'update-alternatives' method.
[05:29] <sahin_w> Sorry I miss the point.
[05:29] <Dr_willis> what if one is not even using KDE or GNome. what default browser should my windowmakers 'browser' icon launch. :)
[05:29] <Jucato> sahin_w: which point did you miss?
[05:29] <ejer> I guess we just need a GUI to update-alternatives
[05:29] <sahin_w> I always use the update-alternatives method because I use debian based distro from ages... ;-)
[05:30] <Jucato> ejer: now *that* is absolutely true
[05:30] <kosta> !de
[05:30] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[05:30] <Skrot-> We also need Freedesktop.org to make a standard for such
[05:30] <soulrider> !cedega
[05:30] <Jucato> I think that's part of the standard
[05:30] <ubotu> cedega is a project based on WINE, aimed at running Windows games on Linux. For more info, see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/Cedega
[05:30] <sahin_w> There is a galternatives utilty.
[05:30] <sahin_w> I never ever tried.
[05:31] <Dr_willis> ive rarely had to mess with update-alternatives.. i can think of one other instance where i needed it.. that was for the java stuff. Perhps once to set up the vim editor..
[05:31] <Skrot-> Is there another way to communicate with update-alternatives than stdin/stdout? If there was a easier way I could make a qtpython script for it
[05:31] <sahin_w> I think galternatives gives you a gui for update-alternatves.
[05:31] <Dr_willis> !info galternatives
[05:31] <ubotu> galternatives: graphical setup tool for the alternatives system. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.13.3ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 28 kB, installed size 276 kB
[05:31] <Dr_willis> there ya go. :)
[05:31] <Jucato> there are only 2 things for which  you will absolutely need update-alternatives for: java and browser
[05:32] <stdin> galternatives seems to be a GTK app :P
[05:32] <Jucato> it definitely is
[05:32] <sahin_w> Life is hard. ;-)
[05:32] <Dr_willis> computers are hard...  i want my money back...
[05:32] <sahin_w> :-D
[05:32] <Dr_willis> they should bend over backwards for me.. AND then do a backflip!
[05:33] <Dr_willis> we got too many Mice buttons also! its soo confusing.
[05:33] <Dr_willis> on the 8th reboot now updating things..
[05:33] <Jucato> damn! we got too many keys on the keyboard! too confusing
[05:33] <Dr_willis> Jucato,  like having to explain to people where the ` key is.. and why its NOT the same as the ' key
[05:34] <Jucato> yes
[05:34] <Jucato> or where the fscking | key is
[05:34] <Dr_willis> 'its the one CLEAN key on your keyboard.. because you never use it!'
[05:34] <genii> Yeah the single quote key as opposed to the backtick key ...very confoozing
[05:35] <Dr_willis> how about dos and its use of / and \
[05:35] <Dr_willis> :)
[05:35] <LjL> Dr_willis: just use $() instead of the nasty backticks and you don't have that problem
[05:35] <hive> Hi all.  I am looking in my TCPDUMP because my wireless card seems to be flashing alot, and I am seeing alot of messages like:  10:52:29.088666 IP by1msg5176513.phx.gbl.msnp > <IP_ADDRESS>.49165: P 3303:3311(8) ack 265 win 64164 <nop,nop,timestamp 46008748 25863001> .. Can anyone tell me what this is please
[05:35] <hatta> $() rules
[05:35] <Dr_willis> then ya got  the --whatever vs -whatever vs -w  vs w options/flags. :)
[05:35] <Dr_willis> LjL,  yep - good practice
[05:36] <LjL> Dr_willis: those are unavoidable since no developer agrees with no given other on that
[05:36] <Dr_willis> LjL,  yea . i LOVE it when --help prints out " use -help for help "
[05:36] <stdin> be nice if --help was universal tho
[05:36] <Dr_willis> The old AMIGA had a neat idea on how command 'templates' worked.. once ya figured out the syntax.
[05:36] <LjL> Dr_willis: what about X --version not working anymore, and being X -version now
[05:37] <Dr_willis> i cant recall X --version Ever working
[05:37] <LjL> hm whatever, anyway it should be --version
[05:37] <LjL> Dr_willis: it would have been nice if "??" was consistently supported too
[05:37] <LjL> Dr_willis: and i want to know where the "e" went in "creatE"
[05:38] <Dr_willis> cant say ive ever used that command
[05:38] <Dr_willis> !man creat
[05:38] <Dr_willis> :)
[05:38] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about man creat - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:38] <Jucato> Dr_willis: don't you want to know where the "e" went in "resolv.conf"?
[05:38] <jhutchins> I belive the convention we're currently working toward is that word variables like "help" and "version" take double dashes, while single character variables like h and v take a single dash.
[05:39] <Jucato> jhutchins: normally yes. there are a few stubborn apps though
[05:39] <Dr_willis> im waiting for all kde apps to start with kde-whatever  to be logical with the gnome-whatever apps. :)
[05:39] <LjL> jhutchins: define "we"
[05:39] <Skrot-> Then patch it before packaging it for kubuntu! ;)
[05:39] <Dr_willis> I though the -- vs - was a posix thang.
[05:39] <jhutchins> There's always one or two holdouts, like ImageMagick doesn't get packaged with all lower case names.
[05:39] <Jucato> Dr_willis: it is, afaik
[05:39] <LjL> Dr_willis: it's not a command, it's a C function
[05:39] <Skrot-> KDE is moving away from the k* naming convention \o/
[05:39] <Jucato> cmake -DCMAKE_FOO_FOO
[05:40] <Dr_willis> but ive never been that big a geek... to understand the posix stuff.
[05:40] <Jucato> Skrot-: not for all
[05:40] <Skrot-> No, but alot of apps :)
[05:40] <Skrot-> k* is usefull for branding though
[05:40] <jhutchins> Skrot-: I like being able to easily tell what's part of kde and what's an external program.
[05:40] <stdin> well, it it the K desktop environment :)
[05:40] <Dr_willis> actually i though the - for single artuments/flags like in tar -xf   (vs tar xf) was getting cleaned up also
[05:41] <Dr_willis> :)
[05:41] <LjL> Dr_willis: backwards compatibility is always an issue remember
[05:41] <Skrot-> jhutchins: It's usually not that big a problem to find out even if they dont start with k
[05:41] <Jucato> Skrot-: not a lot... you still have KDE, Konqueror, KOffice (a lot there), Kate, KFind, etc
[05:41] <jhutchins> Dr_willis: I don't think there's been a lot of progress on that.
[05:41] <jhutchins> Dr_willis: I think people were moving away from the - and there was a lot of resistance.
[05:41] <LjL> Dr_willis: and especially for archivers, there's a long tradition of no-hyphen options
[05:41] <Dr_willis> jhutchins,  yea , tar is like the only app i rember the change,, and perhaps in ps aux vs ps -aux
[05:41] <genii> hive udp port 165 on your local box is being remapped to ports 3303 and 3311. Likely some IM program is using it
[05:41] <jhutchins> Those are the only ones I can think of.
[05:42] <Dr_willis> we need a standard on standards! :)
[05:42] <Skrot-> Jucato: Some of the core functionality for KDE 4 (phonon, decibel, plasma, solid, strigi, etc) have nice names though. As well as some apps like amarok, okular, etc
[05:42] <Jucato> we need a standard on standardizing
[05:42] <LjL> nice names, yes, that's important
[05:42] <jhutchins> It's like nslookup complaining that it's deprecated.

[05:42] <Skrot-> LjL: Not enforcing k* is nice ;)
[05:42] <Dr_willis> strigi - yea - real clear what that does.. :)
[05:42] <Jucato> Skrot-: may I remind you that it was amaroK and oKular and digiKam before :)
[05:42] <Dr_willis> heh...
[05:42] <Jucato> Skrot-: no one "enforced" the K naming
[05:42] <Skrot-> Jucato: Yes, before. :)
[05:42] <jhutchins> The nice thing about standards is there are so many to choose from.
[05:43] <sahin_w> I don't care the names, but apps.
[05:43] <Dr_willis> letters.
[05:43] <Skrot-> Jucato: I know, but my vocabulary is too small to express what I mean :p
[05:43] <jhutchins> The K ran into the all lower case package names rule.
[05:43] <sahin_w> If an apps great I don't care what the name is...
[05:43] <Dr_willis> often seen asked . "I installed BitchX, but bitchx says command not found'
[05:43] <Dr_willis> the good old days
[05:43] <LjL> Dr_willis: tell them "dpkg -L bitchx | grep bin"
[05:43] <T489416> old day is gone
[05:43] <Dr_willis> i tell them install irssi
[05:43] <Dr_willis> :)
[05:44] <LjL> Dr_willis: good idea, at least that way i don't get a highlight from their quit message
[05:44] <T489416> i new looking at kubuntu from windows, in VirtualBox :p
[05:44] <T489416> *now
[05:45] <Skrot-> cool, i'm looking at windows from kubuntu :P
[05:45] <stdin> I'm looking at Kubuntu in Kubuntu in VirtualBox :P
[05:45] <Dr_willis> Jei got 2 pcs right here.. and i keep typing the irc stuff on the windows box.. by mistake.. :)
[05:45] <Dr_willis> and visa versa.
[05:46] <Dr_willis> gee.. let a windows XP box sit in the closet for 6 months then fire it up.. and watch all the reboots it has to do for updates...
[05:46] <andyt> where would i find the file that stores the username/password for my mysql database ?
[05:47] <T489416> i go reboot, bye :p
[05:47] <w007de99> hi at all....
[06:04] <akrus> hm
[06:05] <akrus> does someone know what's the problem with printer?
[06:05] <akrus> in System Settings -> Printers I click on 'Add Printer' and it just hangs
[06:05] <akrus> localhost:631 unaccessible
[06:06] <Dr_willis> sounds like cups may not be running
[06:06] <Dr_willis> try http://localhost:631 in a browser?
[06:06] <akrus> nothing
[06:06] <akrus> no reply
[06:06] <akrus> CUPS is started
[06:06] <akrus> x_X
[06:06] <akrus> 4354 ?        Rs     2:49 /usr/sbin/cupsd
[06:06] <dysmann> Hello, I have a problem with knetworkmanager : he can't conect to a wireless network... Could you help me ?
[06:07] <Dr_willis> odd. perhaps some firewall rules? try restarting cups?
[06:07] <akrus> dysmann: error?
[06:07] <akrus> Dr_willis: nothing
[06:07] <akrus> Dr_willis: I tried, restarts fine :)
[06:07] <akrus> iptables not installed
[06:07] <akrus> and no firewall at all~
[06:07] <Dr_willis> enable verbose logging in the cups configs by hand.. and restart it. check the logs.. i guess would be the next step
[06:07] <stdin> iptables not installed ?
[06:07] <akrus> no
[06:08] <stdin> it's part of the kernel
[06:08] <akrus> Dr_willis: hm, sorry, how to?
[06:08] <akrus> stdin: not enabled then :P
[06:08] <stdin> ah, ok :)
[06:08] <akrus> localhost - - [26/Jan/2007:20:04:40 +0300]  "POST /classes/ HTTP/1.1" 200 221 CUPS-Get-Classes client-error-not-found
[06:08] <Dr_willis> sudo vi /etc/cups/cupsd.conf (or whatever editor ya like)
[06:08] <akrus> o_O
[06:08] <akrus> opened
[06:09] <akrus> LogLevel info
[06:09] <dysmann> akrus > it stop a stop at configuring the peripheral
[06:09] <dysmann> ops, akrus > it stop at configuring the peripheral
[06:09] <akrus> is it question?
[06:09] <akrus> it hangs right after clicking 'Add Printer'
[06:10] <akrus> xojpanel -> displays the panel info ok
[06:10] <akrus> huh now hanged after i clicked on 'Printers'
[06:10] <anything> where can i find what is binded to my alt-left mouse click in kubuntu???
[06:11] <anything> i need to disable it
[06:11] <akrus> crashed lol
[06:11] <Dr_willis> alt-left is normally used to move windows i thought
[06:11] <morena> someone knows how i can connect to a spanish chanel ,pleas???
[06:11] <Jucato> !es | morena
[06:11] <ubotu> morena: Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[06:11] <dysmann> and me in frensh ?
[06:11] <stdin> !fr
[06:11] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[06:11] <Dr_willis> !fr
[06:12] <Dr_willis> !redneck
[06:12] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about redneck - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:12] <morena> thanks!
[06:12] <dysmann> ubotu > You spink any languages !?
[06:12] <Jucato> dysmann: it's a bot
[06:12] <stdin> !bot
[06:12] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[06:12] <scifi> !mysql
[06:12] <ubotu> LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[06:12] <Dr_willis> :)
[06:12] <lebifteksauvage> Hello ;)
[06:13] <akrus> hm so any ideas? :)
[06:13] <dysmann> Jucato ok
[06:13] <rgil> alguien sabe  otros canales en espanol
[06:13] <anything> where can i find what is binded to my alt-left mouse click in kubuntu???
[06:13] <Jucato> anything: System Settings -> Desktop -> Window Behavior -> WIndow Actions tab
[06:13] <Jucato> !es | rgil
[06:13] <ubotu> rgil: Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[06:13] <rgil> otros diferentes .....
[06:14] <akrus> hm I'll try reinstalling cups with config files after download completes xD
[06:16] <alessandro> any italian for help me?
[06:16] <guglielf> rgil: puedes preguntar en #ubuntu-es
[06:16] <guglielf> alessandro: #ubuntu-it
[06:17] <enterprise> thx
[06:17] <Arne00> hi does anybody know what driver to install for a wierless Broadcom BCM4401-B0 100Base-TX card?
[06:17] <Alumin> speaking of cups, this is more of a cups question than a kubuntu question I guess, but...how do you access the admin pages?
[06:17] <akrus> no idea
[06:17] <stdin> !wifi
[06:17] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[06:17] <akrus> I can't access anything
[06:18] <Alumin> it keeps prompting me for a password and it won't accept anything I give it...root's account, my user account, the user I created with lppasswd
[06:18] <akrus> Print works only in few non-KDE apps
[06:18] <akrus> i logged in using my login afaik
[06:18] <akrus> !kaudiocreator
[06:18] <ubotu> kaudiocreator: CD ripper and audio encoder frontend for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.5-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 902 kB, installed size 1484 kB
[06:18] <dysmann> there is nobody on french channel
[06:18] <akrus> heh
[06:18] <akrus> lol
[06:19] <fdoving> !cupsweb | alumin
[06:19] <ubotu> alumin: To enable the administration functions of the cups web interface - "sudo adduser cupsys shadow" then "sudo /etc/init.d/cupsys restart". Also, see !cups
[06:19] <akrus> heh
[06:20] <tiina> i have situation here. I installed ubuntu edgy server x86-64, added in text mode new kde 3.5.6 repositories... added riddell key...  and now when I hit apt-get install kde-core i get error about broken packages... something about that kdebase ain't installed even though kde-core needs it
[06:20] <Oly> how can i find the ip of the router my system is on  kubuntu?
[06:20] <stdin> Oly: type /whois Oly
[06:20] <akrus> LOL
[06:21] <Oly> no. i'm not on the system
[06:21] <akrus> www.whatismyip.com
[06:21] <Oly> * plays around with router but dont know the ip to the other one. how can i find it if its attached..
[06:21] <akrus> from this PC :)
[06:21] <Oly> rawr. of the router*
[06:22] <enterprise> someone can help me with gcc_
[06:22] <enterprise> ?
[06:22] <stdin> depends on what help you need
[06:22] <enterprise> i need to compile a c program
[06:23] <stdin> yes?
[06:23] <enterprise> but gcc don't read the math.h library
[06:23] <devilsadvocate> enterprise, get build-essential
[06:23] <enterprise> ??
[06:23] <stdin> maybe have a read of...
[06:23] <devilsadvocate> hm
[06:23] <stdin> !compile
[06:23] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[06:24] <enterprise> thx a lot
[06:24] <enterprise> trying......
[06:26] <enterprise> alessandro@lcars-p:~/laboratorio$ gcc -o  gaussgen1 gaussgen1.c
[06:26] <enterprise> gaussgen1.c:37:3: warning: no newline at end of file
[06:26] <enterprise> /tmp/ccnYV1kw.o: In function `main':
[06:26] <enterprise> gaussgen1.c:(.text+0xe3): undefined reference to `sqrt'
[06:26] <enterprise> collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
[06:26] <enterprise> not working
[06:26] <slow-motion> hallo
[06:26] <gabrieldain> Hey. Anybody know if the memtest from the 64-bit liveCDs work in 32-bit computers?
[06:27] <LjL> enterprise: include math.h and use ##c
[06:27] <enterprise> include command is in gaussgen1.c
[06:27] <enterprise> the program work in windows
[06:27] <enterprise> but in linux
[06:27] <enterprise> not
[06:28] <LjL> enterprise: ah yes
[06:28] <LjL> enterprise: gcc -lm -o gassgen1 gaussgen1.c
[06:28] <LjL> -lm includes the maths library
[06:28] <enterprise> ok
[06:28] <enterprise> trying
[06:29] <stdin> gabrieldain: never tried, but I think probably not
[06:29] <gabrieldain> stdin, thanks
[06:30] <stdin> np
[06:30] <gabrieldain> stdin, I suppose I'll use the gentoo CD
[06:30] <enterprise> works!
[06:30] <enterprise> thx a lot
[06:30] <enterprise> one other question
[06:30] <enterprise> i see the manual of gcc
[06:31] <enterprise> is huge
[06:31] <enterprise> and
[06:31] <enterprise> there is one command that use all the libraryes?
[06:34] <slyfox> For Amarok - for my 10,000 music files, what would you recommend I start using? SQlite or MySQL ? I am just starting
[06:35] <enterprise> nothing?
[06:35] <stdin> SQlight should be ok, it depends if you want to take the time to setup MySQL
[06:35] <enterprise> ok thx a lot you saved me
[06:35] <enterprise> bye!
[06:38] <guglielf> is there any mean to get mobo info (brand, etc) using some command?
[06:38] <Xemanth> i get huge package errors while trying to install KDE 3.5.6 to my fresh installed Ubuntu Edgy x86-64
[06:38] <stdin> guglielf: install lshw
[06:39] <guglielf> stdin: :) thx
[06:39] <stdin> np
[06:39] <sebbar> Xemanth: nope, just regular 386.
[06:39] <Xemanth> sebbar: i know, 386 went flawlessly to to my comp too
[06:40] <stdin> you should ask Riddell about it, since he packages 3
[06:40] <Xemanth> i'm installing now 3.5.55 to my x86-64 laptop :/
[06:40] <stdin> *.5.6
[06:40] <Xemanth> -5
[06:40] <sebbar> ok then I probably can't help you sorry
[06:40] <stdin> but I think he want to the sauna :P
[06:41] <Xemanth> stdin: where's Riddell from ?
[06:41] <stdin> afaik he's in the UK
[06:42] <Xemanth> i see
[06:43] <stdin> yep, he's in Edinburgh, Scotland
[06:43] <stdin> ...apparently
[06:45] <guglielf> Xemanth: http://behindubuntu.org/interviews/JonathanRiddell/
[06:46] <sebbar> hi, where can I check if a motherboard is linux compatible?
[06:47] <stdin> I'll save you some time, it is
[06:47] <Skrot-> The motherboard it self probably is. But what about integrated ethernet and audio?
[06:48] <sebbar> that's my concern as well
[06:48] <sebbar> it also has integrated video
[06:48] <stdin> most intergrated chips work well, especially if they are intel
[06:48] <Skrot-> Intel Video?
[06:48] <Skrot-> intel is <3
[06:48] <Skrot-> =)=
[06:48] <Skrot-> wow..
[06:48] <sebbar> http://www.asrock.com/mb/overview.asp?Model=K8NF6G-VSTA&s=
[06:48] <stdin> I got the wobbly windows on an intel :)
[06:49] <sebbar> this is the product
[06:49] <Skrot-> stdin: 950GMA?
[06:49] <stdin> Skrot-: nope, an old 845G
[06:49] <Skrot-> sebbar: nvidia has very good binary drivers
[06:49] <Skrot-> So the video wil probably work
[06:50] <sebbar> ok... so the remaining question is about the audio :) although I never really had any issues with audio cards on linux
[06:50] <Skrot-> There seems to be drivers for the audio chip
[06:51] <sebbar> Skrot: can you give me a link
[06:51] <Skrot-> It's a realtek chip
[06:52] <Skrot-> You might want to ask about it in #alsa, sebbar
[06:52] <Skrot-> The audio chip (ALC861VD)
[06:53] <sebbar> ok
[06:54] <sebbar> one last question...flash isn't available for 64 bits platforms yet right? any other drawbacks on installing the 64bit version of kubuntu?
[06:55] <Skrot-> No idea about that :)
[06:55] <stdin> you won't be able to play other media formats, like wmv and some others in w32codecs
[06:56] <sebbar> stdin: and no flash right?
[06:56] <stdin> sebbar: no flash from adobe anyway
[06:56] <stdin> !gnash
[06:56] <ubotu> An open source flash replacement.  It is still beta software. For current status or for more info http://www.gnu.org/software/gnash/
[06:57] <stdin> gnash can play some flash on 64bit
[06:57] <sebbar> stdin: what percent of movies would you say it plays correctly?
[06:58] <stdin> I've no idea, I've never used it.
[06:58] <sebbar> ok tnx
[06:58] <stdin> but it's still beta or alpha afaik
[06:58] <Skrot-> If you want a stable fast computer that plays well with linux, choose intel :P
[06:59] <stdin> well, intel is the most supported, because it's the most common
[06:59] <stdin> gnash is still alpha, just checked
[06:59] <Skrot-> They also opensource some of their drivers, no?
[07:00] <Skrot-> wireless and video atleast
[07:00] <stdin> yep
[07:00] <cryptom> hi all, I'm confused about locales
[07:01] <stdin> in what way ?
[07:01] <cryptom> how do I correctly setup my edgy laptop to display english menus, but use swiss german keyboard layout and ISO-8859-1?
[07:02] <cryptom> something like: LANG=en_CH.ISO-8859-1 ??
[07:02] <cryptom> where do I have to edit files /etc/environment? /etc/default/locale? /etc/default/console-setup?
[07:02] <dope> i'm having trouble mounting a nfs
[07:02] <cryptom> or which programs to run?
[07:03] <stdin> you can change the keyboard layout in System Settings -> Regional & Language ->  Keyboard Latout
[07:03] <cryptom> stdin, not for kde, just for the console
[07:04] <cryptom> e.g. with edgy server
[07:04] <stdin> sudo dpkg-reconfigure console-setup should let you do that
[07:05] <cryptom> ok, thanks, I will try, does this setup all those mentioned files correctly? because I have en_US.UTF-8 everywhere
[07:08] <stdin> not sure
[07:10] <stdin> cryptom: you can install localeconf to configure that I think
[07:11] <cryptom> stdin, I'm just rebooting after dpkg-reconfig, lets see!
[07:13] <jimmy> hello everibody
[07:13] <jimmy> can somebody help me install wine emulator for UBUNTU ??
[07:14] <stdin> Wine Is Not an Emulator
[07:15] <ForgeAus> !wine
[07:15] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[07:15] <cryptom> stdin, the first approach (dpkg-reconfigure did not change the files /etc/default/locale and /etc/environment
[07:15] <akrus> how to replace all the config files with deb package?
[07:16] <cryptom> stdin, so LANG is still set to en_US.UTF-8
[07:16] <cryptom> stdin, trying localeconf
[07:16] <akrus> so I wish it installed defaults instead of mine
[07:21] <akrus> what package provides cups.conf?
[07:21] <fdoving> does it exist?
[07:21] <stdin> cups probably
[07:21] <fdoving> do you mean cupsd.conf ?
[07:21] <fdoving> in that case it would be the 'cupsys' package.
[07:22] <cryptom> stdin, after installing localeconf and dpkg-reconfigure localeconf, I could not choose en_CH.ISO-8859-1, so I chose en_US.ISO-8859-1, rebooted, no change, environment var LANG is still at en_US.UTF-8
[07:23] <PhinnFort> is it possible to disable the immensely stupid suggestions that comes with Kubuntu's patches, in konquerors google search box?
[07:23] <gouchi> is there a channel for kubuntu feisty fawn ? didn't find on the wiki
[07:24] <akrus> T_T
[07:24] <akrus> kdeprint not working anyway
[07:24] <stdin> gouchi: not specifically #ubuntu+1 is for feisty, or try #kubuntu-devel
[07:25] <gouchi> stdin : thanks ;-)
[07:25] <cryptom> stdin, ah, debconf created a special area in /etc/environment _below_ the existing (from the installation) entry LANG=en_US.UTF-8
[07:26] <cryptom> stdin, but /etc/default/locale is still not changed, which seems to be the place where the env var LANG is really set from
[07:26] <equinoxeB> Hy there...
[07:26] <akrus> stdin: could I ask one thing?
[07:27] <equinoxeB> well...  I had ATI prop on DApper... and they were just fine
[07:28] <akrus> I used it for a while
[07:28] <PhinnFort> akrus: that's silly
[07:28] <equinoxeB> hmm :)
[07:28] <PhinnFort> i use it here
[07:28] <PhinnFort> got fed up with the broken fglrx stuff
[07:28] <akrus> e.g. Ragnarok Online under Wine -> fglrx better
[07:28] <PhinnFort> choked full of bugs
[07:28] <PhinnFort> akrus: switching to virtual console from X -> crash under fglrx
[07:28] <akrus> lol
[07:28] <stdin> akrus: umm, woah, I have no clue
[07:28] <PhinnFort> composite =! fglrx
[07:28] <PhinnFort> :P
[07:29] <PhinnFort> aiglx != fglrx
[07:29] <akrus> stdin: so KDEPrint is not working at all
[07:29] <equinoxeB> well... composite "false"
[07:29] <cryptom> stdin, on the net I found a hint to use: dpkg-reconfigure locales , but this only shows me that it is generating locales for en_US.UTF-8, no options
[07:30] <equinoxeB> it's insane, because the main driver is installed ok
[07:30] <PhinnFort> equinoxeB: more /var/log/Xorg.0.log | grep EE
[07:31] <PhinnFort> also dmesg | grep flgrx
[07:31] <PhinnFort> *fglrx
[07:31] <UgoBoss> good evening :)
[07:31] <PhinnFort> UgoBoss: good evening to you too
[07:31] <UgoBoss> i'm looking for help
[07:31] <PhinnFort> UgoBoss: then you're in the right place
[07:32] <SkirK_NoteBooK> ^^
[07:32] <UgoBoss> i've got kubuntu 6.10
[07:32] <equinoxeB> (EE) fglrx(0): DRIScreenInit failed!
[07:32] <UgoBoss> i want to boot in text-mode
[07:32] <UgoBoss> is it possible?
[07:32] <PhinnFort> UgoBoss: yes
[07:32] <equinoxeB> AIGLX: Screen 0 is not DRI capable
[07:32] <PhinnFort> !failsafe
[07:32] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about failsafe - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:33] <PhinnFort> equinoxeB: more /var/log/Xorg.0.log | grep EE -A 5 -B 5
[07:33] <stdin> cryptom: have you tried changing the files to en_US.ISO-8859-1 ?
[07:33] <PhinnFort> UgoBoss: choose "Recovery" in GRUB
[07:33] <PhinnFort> i think should do it
[07:33] <jordo23> I turned my adept notifier off and want to switch it back on.....I forgot how....where is the switch?
[07:34] <UgoBoss> so... i have to add the "failsafe" option at boot time?
[07:34] <PhinnFort> jordo23: alt+f2 type in adept_notifier
[07:34] <stdin> jordo23: just run adept_notifier
[07:34] <PhinnFort> jordo23: and then it should ask you if you want to turn it back on
[07:34] <PhinnFort> UgoBoss: it's a choice in Grub, afaik
[07:34] <jordo23> ok....thanks.....thought it was in adept manager...
[07:34] <PhinnFort> jordo23: i don't think they're very well integrated
[07:35] <UgoBoss> PhinnFort: ok, i'll try... thank you :)
[07:35] <equinoxeB> I can't paste in here :|
[07:35] <PhinnFort> rafb.net/paste
[07:35] <jordo23> PhinnFort: Is there a better way?
[07:35] <PhinnFort> equinoxeB: you shold turn of aiglx
[07:35] <cryptom> well, yes and no, I changed it, but it still reminded at UTF-8, so I grepped for all LANG=UTF-8 in /etc and looking at the results I wondered whether there is an "official" way to correctly change the locales, without having to edit several files
[07:35] <PhinnFort> jordo23: you just need to run adept_notifier
[07:35] <cryptom> (for only one settings)
[07:35] <jordo23> PhinnFort: I know.....just wondering if there was a better way to keep automatically updated....cron?
[07:35] <equinoxeB> how can I do that?
[07:36] <PhinnFort> jordo23: you can play around with KCron
[07:36] <stdin> cryptom: well, any "official" way would just end up editing a file somewhere
[07:36] <cryptom> stdin, no problem with that... but many files for _one_ setting?
[07:36] <PhinnFort> equinoxeB: alt+f2, enter "kdesu kate /etc/X11/xorg.conf"
[07:37] <equinoxeB> ok
[07:37] <PhinnFort> and add "Option "AIGLX" "false"" where appropriate
[07:38] <equinoxeB> like
[07:38] <equinoxeB> Section "Device"
[07:38] <equinoxeB> 	Identifier  "aticonfig-Device[0] "
[07:38] <equinoxeB> ?
[07:38] <cryptom> stdin, ok, gotta go, thanks!!
[07:38] <PhinnFort> equinoxeB: probably
[07:40] <equinoxeB> I'll restart X and be back in sec
[07:40] <PhinnFort> it still won't work...
[07:42] <PhinnFort> equinoxeB: can you post /var/log/Xorg.0.log?
[07:42] <PhinnFort> *paste
[07:42] <alejandro> hola ?
[07:42] <PhinnFort> !espanol
[07:42] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[07:43] <alejandro> ;) thank's
[07:43] <PhinnFort> np;)
[07:43] <stdin> bonjour :)
[07:43] <PhinnFort> takk
[07:43] <PhinnFort> takkar s mycket
[07:43] <stdin> guten Tag
[07:44] <PhinnFort> lol
[07:44] <stdin> and
[07:44] <stdin> buon giorno
[07:44] <PhinnFort> kartoffelkndel
[07:44] <stdin> that's the limit of my foreign language knowledge :P
[07:44] <PhinnFort> hehe
[07:45] <stdin> well, I can say s**i in french, but that's it then
[07:45] <stdin> opps
[07:45] <stdin> that's s**t :P
[07:45] <PhinnFort> rotfl
[07:46] <PhinnFort> wtf doesn't kubuntu come with the kdegames by default?
[07:46] <PhinnFort> i've seen people switch to linux/kde for less
[07:46] <PhinnFort> :P
[07:46] <stdin> It's one of the 1st things I install
[07:47] <PhinnFort> it attracts females
[07:47] <PhinnFort> and males, though
[07:47] <equinoxeB> ok... I removed load "glx" and there's no opengl anymore . AIGLX error isn't present anymore dough...
[07:48] <PhinnFort> equinoxeB: hmm, you want opengl?
[07:48] <equinoxeB> yes... :|
[07:48] <PhinnFort> then put glx back in, mkay?
[07:48] <PhinnFort> :P
[07:48] <PhinnFort> GLX is for OpenGL under X
[07:48] <equinoxeB> it's back :)
[07:48] <equinoxeB> yup... but it's MESA
[07:48] <PhinnFort> and then post Xorg.0.log on rafb.net/paste
[07:48] <equinoxeB> god
[07:48] <equinoxeB> ok
[07:49] <chovy> flash9 doesn't support x64
[07:49] <PhinnFort> nope
[07:49] <PhinnFort> i know
[07:49] <chovy> how lame is that?
[07:49] <PhinnFort> on a scale from 1-10?
[07:49] <PhinnFort> 9.9
[07:50] <stdin>  gnash works on x64 but it's alpha
[07:50] <chovy> is there a way to run flash on x64?
[07:50] <PhinnFort> gnash is not very good
[07:50] <PhinnFort> chovy: if you use Opera, you can have flash in that
[07:50] <PhinnFort> here is why they don't have 64-bit flash: http://blogs.adobe.com/penguin.swf/2006/10/whats_so_difficult_64bit_editi.html
[07:51] <stdin> or there is https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxAMD64FlashJava for firefox
[07:51] <dhq> is there any alarm where i can program a list of mp3 files to play
[07:51] <PhinnFort> dhq: you can use a script for Amarok
[07:52] <PhinnFort> open amarok and choose "Tools" -> "Script Manager"
[07:52] <dhq> PhinnFort: from where do i get that script
[07:52] <PhinnFort> go where i told you
[07:52] <equinoxeB> http://rafb.net/p/YIagre25.html
[07:52] <PhinnFort> and then click on "Get More scripts"
[07:52] <PhinnFort> if you don't have it under "General" already
[07:52] <dhq> ok then
[07:53] <PhinnFort> equinoxeB: make sure the fglrx module is loaded
[07:53] <PhinnFort> "modprobe fglrx", and then restart X
[07:54] <PhinnFort> dhq: "weekalarm" looks nice
[07:54] <stdin> sudo ^^
[07:54] <equinoxeB> sh: /sbin/lrm-video: not found
[07:54] <equinoxeB> FATAL: Error running install command for fglrx
[07:54] <chovy> is gnash just a player? i have to interact with a database driven flash web site.
[07:54] <dhq> PhinnFort: ok what other scripts are there
[07:55] <stdin> chovy: it's just a play afaik
[07:55] <PhinnFort> equinoxeB: dmesg | tail
[07:55] <gnomefreak> chovy: yes gnash is player only
[07:55] <PhinnFort> dhq: just look around
[07:55] <stdin> but, like I said, you can run flash in firefox with https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxAMD64FlashJava
[07:56] <equinoxeB> http://rafb.net/p/LppaIk59.html
[07:56] <PhinnFort> equinoxeB: did you do it as root?
[07:56] <PhinnFort> sudo modprobe flgrx
[07:56] <equinoxeB> yes
[07:56] <stdin> mmm, pizza
[07:57] <equinoxeB> sudo bash
[07:57] <equinoxeB> I have a root console now
[07:57] <stdin> or as the french would say: mmm, la pizza :P
[07:57] <LjL> what's wrong with sudo -i
[07:57] <PhinnFort> LjL: it's not new
[07:57] <PhinnFort> or just plain old su -
[07:57] <LjL> su - won't work on a normal ubuntu installation...
[07:57] <PhinnFort> LjL: why?
[07:57] <LjL> because they're no root
[07:58] <LjL> it's locked that is
[07:58] <LjL> !root
[07:58] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[07:58] <PhinnFort> then you do sudo passwd
[07:58] <PhinnFort> first
[07:58] <stdin> sudo su - would work, but then why not sudi -i
[07:58] <LjL> bad idea to suggest that
[07:58] <stdin> *sudo
[07:58] <equinoxeB> the modprobe error suggested an installation prob... :|
[07:58] <equinoxeB> I think .
[07:58] <PhinnFort> equinoxeB: yeah
[07:58] <PhinnFort> where did you get the fglrx driver?
[07:58] <equinoxeB> ati.com
[07:58] <equinoxeB> :)
[07:59] <PhinnFort> :(
[07:59] <PhinnFort> :P
[07:59] <stdin> and the pre packages one wasn't good enough for you ?
[07:59] <PhinnFort> equinoxeB: i think it would be a much better idea to use the packages in the repositories
[08:00] <equinoxeB> well... I just know that Warcraft is workin' on prop drivers...
[08:00] <juano_> !root
[08:00] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[08:00] <equinoxeB> I don't know anything about open-source ones
[08:00] <chovy> PhinnFort: i don't see Opera in the adept manager
[08:00] <stdin> equinoxeB: ubuntu has packaged the proprietary ones for you
[08:00] <equinoxeB> :D
[08:01] <stdin> !info xorg-driver-fglrx
[08:01] <ubotu> xorg-driver-fglrx: Video driver for ATI graphics accelerators. In component restricted, is optional. Version 7.1.0-8.28.8+<IP_ADDRESS>-10.1 (edgy), package size 9181 kB, installed size 25892 kB
[08:01] <PhinnFort> chovy: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1789367
[08:01] <stdin> !opera
[08:01] <ubotu> opera is an advanced and free (only as in price) web browser.  Install it via Applications->Add/Remove..., making sure that "Show commercial applications" is checked. For more info on opera please see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OperaBrowser
[08:01] <stdin> chovy: ^^
[08:01] <PhinnFort> ah, much better
[08:02] <equinoxeB> It says : installed :P
[08:02] <stdin> equinoxeB: it's not a good idea to mix them
[08:02] <PhinnFort> very bad, even
[08:02] <equinoxeB> :|
[08:03] <equinoxeB> I just followed the installing procedure for the ati.com drivers
[08:03] <PhinnFort> equinoxeB: as i said, i don't really trust ATi's/AMD's devs that much:P
[08:04] <PhinnFort> indirectly, i said that
[08:04] <PhinnFort> :P
[08:04] <PhinnFort> !fglrx
[08:04] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[08:04] <PhinnFort> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI
[08:04] <stdin> you'll probably need to remove the ati.com ones
[08:04] <FreshPrince> hi
[08:04] <PhinnFort> yeah
[08:04] <PhinnFort> FreshPrince: hello
[08:05] <FreshPrince> ehm
[08:05] <FreshPrince> can i brurn a movie to a cd that i can watch the movie on a dvd player?
[08:05] <FreshPrince> with k3b
[08:05] <FreshPrince> is that possible?
[08:05] <PhinnFort> FreshPrince: yes, i think so
[08:05] <cpk1> FreshPrince: its easier to use kmediafactory for that
[08:05] <FreshPrince> hm.. but how? dont know how with k3b :)
[08:06] <FreshPrince> huch?.. well i'm not a kde user.. i only use k3b for burning
[08:06] <stdin> File -> New Project -> New Video CD Project
[08:06] <cpk1> FreshPrince: kmediafactory is easier since it will set you up with a menu and everything
[08:06] <PhinnFort> FreshPrince: http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Create_a_VCD_or_SVCD
[08:07] <PhinnFort> i used that when i had gentoo, and i think it should work under ubuntu too
[08:07] <PhinnFort> you might want to apt-get install ffmpeg or something, though
[08:07] <elyon225> I'm about to install Windows XP on my system.  What do I need to do to re-enable GRUB afterwards?
[08:07] <stdin> is it me, of does the gentoo wiki have *everything* on it :P
[08:07] <PhinnFort> stdin: that's one of the reasons i used gentoo for so long;)
[08:07] <FreshPrince> elyon225, just try to chroot into our system with a live-cd :)
[08:07] <FreshPrince> *your .. and re-install and set the grub menu
[08:07] <stdin> !grub | elyon225
[08:07] <ubotu> elyon225: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[08:07] <elyon225> FreshPrince: Don't know how to do that ;)
[08:08] <cpk1> he doesnt want a vcd he wants a dvd...
[08:08] <elyon225> stdin: Thank you.
[08:08] <stdin> elyon225: use the 1st link there :)
[08:08] <FreshPrince> well yes.. i wanna have a dvd..
[08:08] <FreshPrince> :(
[08:08] <PhinnFort> cpk1: you can play SVCD's on most DVD_players
[08:08] <elyon225> stdin: ubotu is so handy :)
[08:08] <FreshPrince> that i can watch the movie on a dvd player..
[08:08] <stdin> elyon225: yeah, *very* :P
[08:09] <PhinnFort> FreshPrince: check if you can watch svcd's on your dvd-player
[08:09] <PhinnFort> cd-r's are way cheaper than dvd*r's;)
[08:09] <cpk1> FreshPrince: kmediafactory dvd authoring is really simple
[08:09] <hatta> per megabyte DVDrs are cheaper
[08:09] <stdin> devede is good too, for more simple dvds
[08:09] <equinoxeB> removing installed drivers...
[08:09] <PhinnFort> hatta: i'm talking disks
[08:10] <PhinnFort> 2xcd-r < 1xDVD-+R
[08:10] <PhinnFort> usually
[08:10] <stdin> I'd get a spindle of DVDs, then buy some Jewel cases, it's quite cheep
[08:11] <PhinnFort> i prefer mandvd, though
[08:11] <chovy> opera isn't supported for x64 either :(
[08:11] <PhinnFort> chovy: it is
[08:11] <cpk1> FreshPrince: you will want mencoder or something to transcode your video to ntsc standards (or pal) and whatnot
[08:11] <chovy> PhinnFort: i just got an error.
[08:11] <PhinnFort> it just needs emu-libs
[08:11] <FreshPrince> cpk1, yes
[08:12] <chovy>  package architecture (i386) does not match system (amd64)
[08:12] <PhinnFort> FreshPrince: use the guide from the gentoo wiki i posted
[08:12] <blekos> hello, is it possible in Konctact to see my contacts  as childs of their category? [eg i have 3 contacts in category restaurant and 5 in categ. web sites i want to see as a header their category, and under the categories the contacts]
[08:12] <PhinnFort> chovy: use --force-architecture
[08:13] <chovy> PhinnFort: emu-libs not found.
[08:13] <FreshPrince> cpk1, but for kmediafactory i need kdebase or not? or is kmediafactory just 1 package?
[08:13] <PhinnFort> chovy: ia32-libs
[08:13] <PhinnFort> emu-libs = short for emulation libs
[08:13] <jarn> Is there anyone here who doesn't have wine installed and wouldn't mind testing something for me that would involve some downloading and some compiling?
[08:13] <cpk1> FreshPrince: no idea, i dont think i even installed it
[08:13] <equinoxeB> installed Ubuntu packaged drivers
[08:14] <equinoxeB> I had 8.32
[08:14] <equinoxeB> now I have 8.28
[08:14] <FreshPrince> PhinnFort, ok.. i have to encode it form .avi to mpeg.. k3b is saying that
[08:14] <equinoxeB> and there's still no opengl :((
[08:14] <chovy> PhinnFort: gotcha
[08:14] <PhinnFort> FreshPrince: use ffmpeg, as in the guide
[08:15] <chovy> PhinnFort: is this going to effect 64-bit stuff?
[08:15] <PhinnFort> chovy: no
[08:15] <naser> hello
[08:15] <PhinnFort> chovy: it should install to /lib32, and therefore not interfere with the 64-bit libs
[08:15] <naser> a hive 50 deb files and want to install it in one click how ??
[08:16] <naser> i have**
[08:16] <LjL> naser: if you don't have dependency issues with them, dpkg -i *.deb
[08:16] <chovy> PhinnFort: so if a pkg supports 64, it will run as 64?
[08:16] <PhinnFort> chovy: yup, somethingl like that
[08:17] <equinoxeB> well... I'll reinstall the ati.com ones... at least the monitor isn't blurred :\
[08:17] <equinoxeB> :|
[08:17] <Xemanth> naser: sudo dpkg -i *.deb
[08:17] <PhinnFort> equinoxeB: could you post your log file again, first?
[08:17] <Xemanth> ups i'm slow
[08:18] <equinoxeB> ok :)
[08:18] <naser> Xemanth i dont want to install one one file
[08:18] <cpk1> FreshPrince: using ffmpeg to get a ntsc dvd mpeg use ffmpeg -i myfile.avi -target ntsc-dvd mynewfile.mpg
[08:18] <naser> i want to install all the files in one click
[08:18] <LjL> naser: that's what we said
[08:18] <LjL> do you know what * is?
[08:19] <PhinnFort> or, if you're in non-US, use pal-dvd instead
[08:19] <Xemanth> naser: ^^
[08:19] <equinoxeB> http://rafb.net/p/4VaeVT86.html
[08:20] <Xemanth> naser: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/*
[08:21] <naser> Xemanth :sure you dont understand me
[08:21] <naser> i have more than one file
[08:21] <PhinnFort> equinoxeB: you need to reboot after changing drivers
[08:21] <equinoxeB> :D
[08:21] <equinoxeB> ok :)
[08:21] <PhinnFort> equinoxeB: (EE) fglrx(0): incompatible kernel module detected - HW accelerated OpenGL will not work
[08:21] <naser> and i cant install the 50 file in dpkg -i ..
[08:21] <PhinnFort> equinoxeB: or wait
[08:22] <stdin> naser: yes you can
[08:22] <PhinnFort> just rmmod fglrx
[08:22] <PhinnFort> and then modprobe it again
[08:22] <PhinnFort> and then restart X
[08:22] <PhinnFort> and then you have it!
[08:22] <naser> yes i can but i need a lot of time
[08:22] <naser> i want to install them in one click
[08:23] <Xemanth> naser: dude do you know what * means ? it means that dpkg -i *.deb installs all deb files in that folder
[08:23] <Xemanth> with  one click
[08:23] <stdin> naser: open konsole, cd to the directory with them all, then type "sudo dpkg -i *.deb" that will install them ALL
[08:23] <PhinnFort> stdin: that's several clicks, and many types;)
[08:23] <Xemanth> PhinnFort: :D
[08:24] <stdin> PhinnFort: phooey
[08:24] <FreshPrince> cpk1, ok thx
[08:24] <PhinnFort> does adept support drag&drop?
[08:24] <naser> thank you now i undrstand
[08:24] <naser> thankssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss
[08:24] <naser> realy realy you help me a lot
[08:24] <naser> thanks
[08:25] <FreshPrince> cpk1, well i did this with  pal-vcd
[08:25] <FreshPrince> and not ntsc-dvd
[08:25] <stdin> naser: heh, I just found out that you can do in in Konqueror
[08:25] <FreshPrince> dont know.. which one is better? whats the difference? i have no idea :D
[08:25] <PhinnFort> FreshPrince: congratulations, you've just encoded your first video for a normal VCD
[08:26] <PhinnFort> FreshPrince: NTSC = american video standard, PAL=normal standard
[08:26] <FreshPrince> ah
[08:26] <PhinnFort> FreshPrince: DVD = Digital Versatile Disc, VCD = Video Compact Disc
[08:26] <PhinnFort> :P
[08:26] <FreshPrince> then i think i should use pal
[08:26] <FreshPrince> ehm.. ok ok -.-
[08:26] <stdin> naser: you just select them all, right click -> Kubuntu package menu -> Install package
[08:26] <PhinnFort> :P
[08:26] <FreshPrince> then pal-vcd is right yeah?
[08:26] <PhinnFort> FreshPrince: if you don't have burnable DVD, yes
[08:27] <FreshPrince> ok
[08:27] <FreshPrince> PhinnFort, and when i had a DVD then?
[08:27] <PhinnFort> then make a pal-dvd
[08:27] <FreshPrince> then with which option?
[08:27] <cpk1> FreshPrince: if you want to burn to dvd just change pal-vcd to pal-dvd
[08:27] <FreshPrince> ah ok
[08:27] <PhinnFort> it's really very simple;)
[08:27] <FreshPrince> with a normal cd = pal-vcd and with a dvd = pal-dvd yeah ?
[08:28] <PhinnFort> yeah
[08:28] <FreshPrince> yeah cool thx guys :D
[08:28] <PhinnFort> np
[08:28] <elyon225> So... I put a CD into my DVD-ROM drive and it showed up on my desktop as a folder.  Now, I can't eject it with the drive's button, and "Eject" obviously isn't an option when Right-Clicking on the icon for it.
[08:28] <PhinnFort> i think maybe K3B can run ffmpeg for you automagically, it has a tool for "video encoding"
[08:29] <stdin> PhinnFort: it doesn't
[08:29] <PhinnFort> elyon225: alt+f2 and enter "eject"
[08:29] <happyday> how do i enable vnc through the commandline?
[08:29] <PhinnFort> stdin: too bad
[08:29] <elyon225> PhinnFort: Okay, that ejected my CD burner, but not DVD drive
[08:29] <PhinnFort> elyon225: try again
[08:29] <stdin> happyday: what do you mean "enable" ?
[08:30] <elyon225> PhinnFort: Nothing happened that time.
[08:30] <PhinnFort> elyon225: you have scsi?
[08:30] <happyday> when i try to connect to it it says no server running
[08:30] <elyon225> PhinnFort: Both drives are IDE
[08:30] <happyday> if i can ssh to the computer how can i enable vnc
[08:30] <PhinnFort> elyon225: eject dvd
[08:31] <elyon225> PhinnFort: That did it.   I put a CD in the drive and it shows up on my desktop? lol
[08:32] <stdin> happyday: connect like "ssh -CY user@host" , then just run vlc
[08:32] <benjamin> helo
[08:33] <benjamin> plaese
[08:33] <PhinnFort> vnc
[08:33] <naser> clear
[08:33] <cpk1> elyon225: yeah, then the dvd drive should be in /etc/fstab
[08:33] <benjamin> is where french????
[08:33] <stdin> !fr
[08:33] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[08:33] <PhinnFort> !french
[08:33] <elyon225> cpk1: There is no /etc/fstab
[08:33] <benjamin> thank you
[08:33] <PhinnFort> jeu sui malade a la tete
[08:33] <FreshPrince> PhinnFort, cpk1 and when the movie already is a .mpg what i have to do then? ffmpeg -i movie.mpg -target pal-vcd movie.mpg
[08:33] <FreshPrince> just this?
[08:34] <cpk1> elyon225: yes there is, open a konsole and do cat /etc/fstab
[08:34] <PhinnFort> FreshPrince: to be on the safe side, yes
[08:34] <benjamin> un frenchi
[08:34] <benjamin> !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[08:34] <PhinnFort> FreshPrince: but you could just try to add them
[08:34] <elyon225> oh, gotcha... was thinking it was a directory
[08:34] <FreshPrince> PhinnFort, ok :D
[08:34] <benjamin> XD
[08:34] <PhinnFort> elyon225: it is, but it is hidden to not scare new users
[08:34] <happyday> i don't think it's working
[08:34] <elyon225> cpk1: /dev/hdd        /media/cdrom1   udf,iso9660 user,noauto
[08:34] <PhinnFort> benjamin: i'm norwegian, not french, though;)
[08:35] <happyday> keeps telling me no server is running
[08:35] <elyon225> PhinnFort: I couldn't find a directory, but I found a file :)
[08:35] <cpk1> elyon225: and hdc is /media/cdrom0?
[08:35] <elyon225> i think
[08:35] <elyon225> cpk1: Yes.
[08:35] <elyon225> My burner has always shown up as cdrom0
[08:36] <stdin> happyday: can you post the exact error ?
[08:36] <PhinnFort> elyon225: what the ubuntu people have done, is add empty files named ".hidden" to everything that you aren't supposed to look at, and then the filebrowsers hides those directories
[08:36] <happyday> for which part?
[08:36] <Xemanth> FreshPrince: are your from bel air ? :>
[08:36] <Xemanth> -r
[08:36] <cpk1> elyon225: so if you are positive hdd is the dvd drive then you will need to make a folder in /media and name it dvd (or something else if you want) and the change /media/cdrom1 to /media/dvd
[08:36] <happyday> cause i did the ssh -CY thing
[08:36] <stdin> happyday: all of it, to pastebin
[08:36] <happyday> uh
[08:36] <stdin> !pastebin
[08:36] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[08:36] <FreshPrince> Xemanth, well Will Smith yes.. but me not :P
[08:36] <FreshPrince> i'm not from USA :D
[08:36] <FreshPrince> :P
[08:36] <elyon225> cpk1: I can do that with Kate?
[08:36] <happyday> what do i type to run the vnc server?
[08:36] <PhinnFort> elyon225: kdesu kate /etc/fstab
[08:37] <cpk1> elyon225: yeah do kdesu kate /etc/fstab
[08:37] <stdin> !vnc | happyday
[08:37] <ubotu> happyday: VNC is a protocol for remote desktop. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNCOverSSH describes how to use it securely.  It works best over fast connections, otherwise look at !FreeNX
[08:37] <PhinnFort> happyday: do you have a vnc server installed?
[08:37] <equinoxeB> i HAVE opengl !!! :p
[08:37] <happyday> yea it's installed
[08:37] <PhinnFort> equinoxeB: gratz!
[08:37] <equinoxeB> after reboot... NO X :P
[08:37] <PhinnFort> or congratulations
[08:37] <equinoxeB> so... in console...
[08:37] <cpk1> elyon225: to make the folder you will need to be root so in konsole cd to /media and then do sudo mkdir dvd
[08:37] <PhinnFort> heh
[08:37] <elyon225> cpk1: Can I likewise rename the cdrom0 to something friendlier by creating a new directory in /media?
[08:37] <fabien> bjour a tous, g un pb : pas de son avec linux kubuntu !
[08:37] <equinoxeB> reinstalled .32
[08:37] <equinoxeB> and... yes... it worked :P
[08:38] <cpk1> elyon225: sure can =)
[08:38] <scifi> i have a strange problem with konqueror. i cannot login to my database using phpmyadmin, however i have just tried firefox and can login fine, any advice appreciated
[08:38] <happyday> i need it to serve up desktop 1
[08:38] <elyon225> cpk1: Man, I love Linux! lol
[08:38] <PhinnFort> happyday: install x11vnc
[08:38] <equinoxeB> thanks a lot!
[08:38] <equinoxeB> :)
[08:38] <PhinnFort> equinoxeB: you are very welcome;)
[08:38] <equinoxeB> ;)
[08:38] <PhinnFort> happyday: sudo apt-get install x11vnc
[08:39] <PhinnFort> then run "DISPLAY=1; x11vnc", i think
[08:39] <elyon225> cpk1: Do I need to restart anything to apply the changes?
[08:39] <PhinnFort> you might want to use ssh, though
[08:39] <fabien> hy everybody, I haven't no sound on my Kubuntu , someone can help me ?
[08:39] <equinoxeB> it' still poltergeist to me... but... it works now :P
[08:39] <eetu> beep
[08:39] <PhinnFort> ;)
[08:39] <happyday> ok it's installing
[08:39] <happyday> and done
[08:40] <PhinnFort> ok
[08:40] <elyon225> cpk1: Uhm... so I made the new directories and changed fstab, now I can't eject EITHER drive lol.  What did I miss?
[08:40] <PhinnFort> or "acknowledged"
[08:41] <Xemanth> elyon225: do new folder /media/cd edit from fstab /dev/hdc to point to /media/cd and reboot
[08:41] <PhinnFort> happyday: over what kind of network are you vnc'ing?
[08:41] <fabien> I haven't sound on my Kubuntu , someone can help me ?, I have install Kunbuntu for  week zand no sound !
[08:41] <elyon225> Xemanth: ah... I have to reboot.  That's what I was missing
[08:41] <Xemanth> elyon225: or whatever you want to folder's name, but i think that reboot helps :)
[08:41] <elyon225> Will be back.
[08:41] <PhinnFort> :P
[08:41] <kolla> simple question.. will there be kde-3.5.6 for dapper?
[08:42] <equinoxeB> bye bye
[08:42] <happyday> it's a LAN
[08:42] <PhinnFort> happyday: do you trust all the machines there?
[08:43] <PhinnFort> if you do, you can probably lay off ssh
[08:43] <happyday> i think so
[08:43] <happyday> it told me connection refused
[08:43] <happyday> :/
[08:43] <happyday> dammit
[08:43] <PhinnFort> if you don't use ssh, everyone on that lan can see what you're doing;)
[08:43] <happyday> all the computers are mine
[08:43] <PhinnFort> did you run x11vnc
[08:43] <happyday> yea
[08:43] <PhinnFort> did it say anything?
[08:44] <happyday> said a lot of stuff
[08:44] <PhinnFort> also, remember to use computername:1
[08:44] <PhinnFort> since it's screen 1
[08:44] <PhinnFort> when you connect, that is
[08:44] <PhinnFort> !x11vnc
[08:44] <ubotu> x11vnc: VNC server which uses your current X11 session. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.8.2-1 (edgy), package size 438 kB, installed size 1104 kB
[08:45] <happyday> hmm
[08:45] <happyday> now i get an error when i run x11vnc
[08:45] <PhinnFort> make sure you properly kill the first one
[08:45] <PhinnFort> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=45565
[08:46] <distro-tester> hi all
[08:46] <distro-tester> do u know how to run phillips SPC200NC webcam on kubuntu?
[08:46] <happyday> i type x11vnc -display :1
[08:46] <elyon225> Now, if I don't have a floppy drive installed, is it okay to remove the directories for it from /media and remove reference in fstab?
[08:47] <PhinnFort> elyon225: yes
[08:47] <cpk1> elyon225: can you reliably open and close your cd/dvd trays?
[08:47] <PhinnFort> happyday: can you paste the errors on rafb.net/paste
[08:48] <elyon225> cpk1: Yes... but the folder icon for my DVD drive still shows up on my desktop.  I can't eject with that, I need to open /media to do it.
[08:48] <fabien> who have sound on Kubuntu ?
[08:48] <PhinnFort> elyon225: try opening media:/ instead
[08:48] <elyon225> PhinnFort: Pardon?
[08:48] <kolla> so, noone knows? kde-3.5.6 for dapper? :)
[08:49] <elyon225> kolla: You can do it, but it's not supported.
[08:49] <PhinnFort> elyon225: media:/ shows all your media
[08:49] <happyday> ok i got it, thx :D
[08:49] <elyon225> kolla: Not even supported in Edgy, I don't think.
[08:49] <cpk1> elyon225: there is no option to safely remove or anything??
[08:49] <PhinnFort> happyday: np
[08:49] <PhinnFort> :P
[08:49] <stdin> kolla: kde 3.5.6 isn't available for dapper
[08:49] <elyon225> cpk1: There is when I open /media in konq.
[08:49] <kolla> and wont be?
[08:49] <elyon225> cpk1: But the desktop icon is just a regular folder...   You can always install it manually, though.
[08:50] <gabigab> bonsoir  tous
[08:50] <distro-tester> i nead help to tun this cam phillips SPC200NC any one can help me?
[08:50] <PhinnFort> !fr
[08:50] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[08:50] <cpk1> elyon225: well for some reason my cdrom0 desktop icon dissapears so i just use console to umount it so i suppose you are in a better boat than me =P
[08:50] <elyon225> cpk1: Alrighty then... I shan't complain :)
[08:51] <PhinnFort> argh... kopete is getting fat...
[08:51] <elyon225> Not a big deal anyway, just a few extra steps.  However... is there a way to prevent the icon from showing on my desktop at all?  I've already tried KDE's "Show Device Icons" but that doesn't help.
[08:51] <distro-tester> can any one help me to run my webcam phillips SPC200NC ?
[08:51] <cpk1> elyon225: right click on your desktop and then go to create new then link to device
[08:51] <happyday> i'm spying on my roommate!
[08:52] <happyday> i'm such a nerd :(
[08:52] <gabigab> je voudrais de l'aide pour ma webcam philips spc 500  nc
[08:52] <cpk1> elyon225: to see if we can make an icon that will let you eject
[08:52] <gabigab> elle fonctionne sous wxp
[08:52] <PhinnFort> !fr | gabigab
[08:52] <ubotu> gabigab: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[08:52] <gabigab> mais je suis sur kubuntu edgy
[08:53] <cpk1> elyon225: if i make an icon like that I can eject from the right click menu
[08:53] <gabigab> je quitte au revoir
[08:54] <elyon225> cpk1: Hmm.. tried doing that, but it gives errors that say FSDevice has no "dev=" entry or something like that.  But right-clicking and choosing eject, ejects the wrong drive lol
[08:54] <genii> distro-tester http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=107922
[08:54] <cpk1> elyon225: paste you fstab to  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to make sure there is nothing wrong with it =)
[08:56] <elyon225> cpk1: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/3001/
[08:57] <cpk1> it looks ok... and the folders in /media are in all caps right? (case matters in linux)
[08:57] <elyon225> cpk1: Yes, they are.
[08:57] <elyon225> cpk1: I can access the files on them just fine
[08:58] <elyon225> cpk1: Ideally, what I'd like is one of 2 things:  1) Have the icons for CD's show up on my desktop using the CD labels.  or 2) Not have any icons show up at all.
[08:59] <elyon225> ...although, CD labels is a Windows thing, isn't it?
[09:00] <LTSmash> hi!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[09:01] <LTSmash> does anybody knows how to install glbc?
[09:01] <elyon225> well, I'll tackle this issue a little later.  I'm going to reinstall windows now.  But before I do, has anyone successfully used the Super GRUB Disc?
[09:01] <LTSmash> glibc*
[09:03] <stdin> LTSmash: glibc = libc6 which should already be installed
[09:05] <kolla> if "installing manually" means compiling it myself, I dont quite see the point in using ubuntu in the first place... guess I rather just upgrade to edgy
[09:05] <LTSmash> huh?
[09:05] <LTSmash> is edgy a good option?
[09:06] <stdin> why wouldn't it be?
[09:06] <LTSmash> i dont know
[09:06] <LTSmash> i use dapper drake
[09:06] <kolla> because it doesnt have "long time support" like dapper has
[09:06] <ubuntu_> i
[09:06] <stdin> I use feisty :)
[09:06] <kolla> not that I know what "long time support" acrually means though
[09:07] <stdin> kolla: edgy still has 18 months, 12 after feisty is released
[09:07] <nagyv> LTSmash: what are you affraid of?
[09:08] <LTSmash> im not afraid
[09:08] <LTSmash> xD
[09:08] <LTSmash> but i have no patience
[09:08] <LTSmash> to upgrade
[09:08] <kolla> stdin: well, I have no intention of being stuck with the same software for 18 months anyways :)
[09:08] <nagyv> LTSmash: if you choose edgy, and after feist, ... then you will always get some cool new features, but it can happen that instead of upgrading you will have to reinstall your system
[09:08] <kolla> nagyv: why.. I never understood why reinstall at all should be necessary
[09:09] <nagyv> LTSmash: actually, first I upgraded, but the system was quite unstable, then I reinstalled it (for the first time using a live CD), and I was really amazed. It took only 28 minutes!
[09:10] <nagyv> kolla: it would be nice if it would not be necessary, but in my case it was an easier solution then playing around with config files, and I needed some edgy-only packages
[09:10] <kolla> I installed this installation I'm running on my laptop three laptops ago, in 2002 :)
[09:10] <LTSmash> mmm
[09:10] <LTSmash> stupid isp
[09:11] <nagyv> kolla: good for you
[09:11] <kolla> nagyv: going through the config files isnt that hard, you even have debsums to help you :)
[09:12] <kolla> but whatever works for you.. :)
[09:12] <hak5fan> Hi. Have anyone here had any luck installing g15composer (for the logitech g15 keyboard) I compiled libg15render (required package). I found a deb package of g15composer, but when I try to install it, the installer says that g15render  is not installed. Thnaks
[09:15] <stdin> hak5fan: have you tried "sudo apt-get -f install" ?
[09:15] <hak5fan> yes
[09:15] <hak5fan> no luck
[09:15] <slyfox> I have created out of 80 gigs - 10 gigs for "/" 1 gig for "/swap" and ther rest 69gigs for "/home" all are different partitions, when I do fdisk -l, I get this http://pastebin.com/868118  and it does not look like what I have created, I cant even understand what it says. I am just a noob, pelase help.
[09:15] <hak5fan> I can't compile g15composer from  source either, It says some file is missing
[09:16] <kolla> and there "apt-get dist-upgrade" failed, who could have guessed
[09:17] <stdin> god pastebin.com is slow
[09:17] <hak5fan> I really don't know what to do... There is almost no documentation avaliable
[09:17] <hak5fan> stdin: slow servers = boring
[09:17] <LTSmash> does
[09:18] <stdin> slyfox: remake the partitions again
[09:18] <LTSmash> anybody knows how to install glibc?
[09:18] <cpk1> hak5fan: if it says a dependency is missing then you need to install the depency
[09:18] <stdin> LTSmash: like I said before, it's already installed
[09:18] <LTSmash> but
[09:18] <slyfox> stdin: remake them? How you mean resintall my whole system ?
[09:18] <LTSmash> i need a newer version
[09:18] <LTSmash> i need to upgrade it
[09:19] <stdin> slyfox: have you already installed on them?
[09:19] <hak5fan> cpk1: I have installed it... the problem is... I compiled the dependency from source and the deb installer can't find the installed package
[09:19] <LTSmash> i need the 2.4 or 2.5 version
[09:19] <slyfox> stdin: Yes, I did the process of partitioning when I was installing Kubuntu I am talking to you from now
[09:19] <slyfox> stdin: so did soemthing got massed up ?
[09:19] <stdin> slyfox: what device are you installing from ? sda or sdb ?
[09:20] <stdin> *installed
[09:20] <cpk1> hak5fan: you need to tell the system its installed =) what dependency did you install?
[09:20] <hak5fan> libg15render
[09:20] <stdin> LTSmash: then upgrade to edgy
[09:20] <LTSmash> mmm
[09:21] <LTSmash> to edgy?
[09:21] <LTSmash> well i get this instructions
[09:21] <LTSmash> GNU libc cannot be compiled in the source directory.  You must build it
[09:21] <stdin> info libc6 edgy
[09:21] <LTSmash> in a separate build directory.  For example, if you have unpacked the
[09:21] <LTSmash> glibc sources in `/src/gnu/glibc-2.4', create a directory
[09:21] <LTSmash> `/src/gnu/glibc-build' to put the object files in.  This allows
[09:21] <LTSmash> removing the whole build directory in case an error occurs, which is
[09:21] <LTSmash> the safest way to get a fresh start and should always be done.
[09:21] <LTSmash> From your object directory, run the shell script `configure' located
[09:21] <LTSmash> at the top level of the source tree.  In the scenario above, you'd type
[09:21] <LTSmash>      $ ../glibc-2.4/configure ARGS...
[09:21] <LTSmash>    Please note that even though you're building in a separate build
[09:21] <LTSmash> directory, the compilation needs to modify a few files in the source
[09:21] <LTSmash> directory, especially some files in the manual subdirectory.
[09:21] <slyfox> stdin: Not sure what these, mean I think it was sda (what is the difference between the two?) I have a sata laptop hard drive. When I erased everything with gparted I think it ws that is ued when installing Kubuntu, I have right clicked and created a 10 gig parition with ext3 to whcih I installed "/" and next was a 1 gig swap and next one was a ext3 parition to which I isntalled "/home"  That is all  I know
[09:21] <cpk1> hak5fan: hrmm well it might have been better to use check install but did you do ldconfig after you built that?
[09:22] <hak5fan> cpk1:  no... should I
[09:22] <tdd1984> whats linux text based browser again i can't remember
[09:22] <hak5fan> cpk1: I'm very new to linux
[09:22] <stdin> slyfox: what's the output of "sudo fdisk -l"
[09:22] <LTSmash> i dont understand that instructions
[09:22] <LTSmash> do i have to make a new folder?
[09:23] <cpk1> hak5fan: wont hurt
[09:23] <stdin> tdd1984: you mean lynx links link2 and/or elinks
[09:23] <LTSmash> and then copy to it which files?
[09:23] <hak5fan> cpk1: ok what's chkinstall btw
[09:23] <stdin> LTSmash: what are you compiling ?
[09:24] <slyfox> stdin: http://pastebin.com/868131 looks about right ?
[09:24] <LTSmash> im compiling glibc
[09:24] <gnomefreak> !checkinstall
[09:24] <ubotu> checkinstall is a wrapper to "make install", useful for installing programs you compiled. It will create a .deb package, which will be listed in the APT database and can be uninstalled like other packages. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CheckInstall - Read the warnings at the top and bottom of that web page, and DO NOT interrupt CheckInstall while it's running!
[09:24] <stdin> LTSmash: why are you ?
[09:24] <hak5fan> cpk1: I ran ldconfig and then tried to install the deb package again... no luck
[09:24] <LTSmash> its a dependency
[09:24] <stdin> of ?
[09:25] <stdin> slyfox: that looks better :)
[09:25] <tdd1984> I have none of them installed
[09:25] <tdd1984> lol
[09:25] <tdd1984> u sure thats the text browsers for the shell
[09:25] <stdin> tdd1984: all of them are condole text browsers, yeah
[09:25] <the1freak> hi all.. does anybody have an idea what i could do;  i have a stupid wg111v2 wlan thingy, i installed the ndiswrapper and the windows driver and did some other things according to tutorials in the internet, but i cannot find my network.. i entered the essid, and my accesspoint is set up so that it doesnt require WEP or other encryptions
[09:26] <slyfox> stdin: please tell me what is it that I have sda when most people talk about hda ? Is it becasue I ahve a sata drive? Also why did fdisk -l not work and   sudo fdisk -l worked ?
[09:26] <LTSmash> stdin: i just need to upgrade it, i downloaded the source but when i use ./configure it says that i have to follow the instructions O_o
[09:26] <tdd1984> opps i got it
[09:26] <tdd1984> does windows box have a text based browser?
[09:26] <stdin> LTSmash: why do you need to upgrade it ?
[09:26] <cpk1> hak5fan: http://doc.gwos.org/index.php/G15Tools_support_for_the_Logitech_G15 that should get you going
[09:26] <stdin> tdd1984: no, no that I know of
[09:27] <LTSmash> stdin: as i sayd before, its a dependency to a program i need
[09:27] <stdin> slyfox: hda-z are for IDE devices, sda-z are sor SCSI (SATA) devices
[09:27] <cpk1> hak5fan: looks really straightforward and easy
[09:27] <stdin> LTSmash: and what program is that ?
[09:27] <LTSmash> stdin: plusd 2.0
[09:27] <slyfox> stdin: Got it and the other question any ideas? why did fdisk -l not work and   sudo fdisk -l worked ?
[09:28] <hak5fan> cpk1: looked at that guide once b4... I just need to dl the libg15 render deb package
[09:28] <hak5fan> thanx
[09:28] <tdd1984> nasty
[09:28] <tdd1984> don't the search engines start at the index.html and crawl out through there?
[09:28] <stdin> slyfox: and sudo fdisk -l worked because the user probably didn't have permission to read the disk (/dev/sda)
[09:29] <elyon225> OKay guys, I've got a problem.  I tried to install Windows XP on a new partition, but it told me it couldn't access the MBR (and thus couldn't install).  So I rebooted and found that GRUB had been overwritten.  I'm using a LiveCD right now.  So I guess my question is two-fold.  1) How do I get to install Windows, and 2) How can I get GRUB back?
[09:29] <stdin> LTSmash: ok, you make a new dir, then you cd to that dir, then run the configure script from that new dir and build it there
[09:30] <stdin> !grub | elyon225
[09:30] <ubotu> elyon225: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[09:30] <LTSmash> stdin: i did that and it aks for a library
[09:30] <stdin> elyon225: use the 1st link there
[09:30] <cpk1> elyon225: also in future its alot less headache to install windows first
[09:31] <tdd1984> is there a way i can have a windows box connect to my terminal? to run a text browser on a remote system
[09:31] <elyon225> cpk1, Oh, I know it would be... but I wasn't planningo n installing Windows.
[09:31] <LTSmash> ferreteria@ferreteria-desktop:~/Desktop/glibxD/glibc-build$ sudo ./configure
[09:31] <LTSmash> Password:
[09:31] <LTSmash> configure: error: cannot find sources (include/features.h) in . or ..
[09:31] <LTSmash> ferreteria@ferreteria-desktop:~/Desktop/glibxD/glibc-build$
[09:31] <stdin> LTSmash: 1) if you upgrade to edgy you'll have version 2.4 2) you don't use sudo to configure, or make
[09:32] <stdin> LTSmash: and you don't just copy the files to the new dir either
[09:32] <stdin> LTSmash: you have an empty one to start with, then run configure
[09:32] <elyon225> As far as installing windows, can I use the Windows install CD to run FIXMBR?
[09:33] <LTSmash> stdin: so if i coy the files from the other dir what will happen?
[09:34] <ubuntu_> salut mec sa va bien
[09:34] <stdin> LTSmash: it won't work, like the instructions say, you make a new dir, and run configure from there, eg ferreteria@ferreteria-desktop:~/Desktop/glibxD/glibc-build$ ../real-glibc/configure
[09:34] <stdin> !fr
[09:34] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[09:35] <slyfox> stdin: Ok, Thank You.
[09:35] <stdin> slyfox: no problem :)
[09:36] <CainMadness> Keep getting an error with Adept. Tells me that a package doesn't install right or something, and then closes down without installing the rest? Believe it was a divx file. ( Should have paid attention. Oops. )
[09:37] <hak5fan> cpk1: thank you so much... even though I've looked at the wiki before I didn't check the packages in the attached archive because I thought they were the same files.. the difference was that these actually semms to work
[09:37] <gnomefreak> CainMadness: close adept in terminal type sudo dpkg --configure -a
[09:38] <CainMadness> gnomefreak: Doing so now.
[09:38] <cpk1> hak5fan: heh, no problem, its always easier to use a .deb if there is one out there =)
[09:38] <cpk1> happy to hear it works now
[09:38] <CainMadness> gnomefreak: Done.
[09:38] <tibbar> !mp3 | tibbar
[09:38] <ubotu> tibbar: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[09:38] <gnomefreak> CainMadness: errors?
[09:38] <CainMadness> gnomefreak: Not that I can see...?
[09:39] <hak5fan> cpk1: couldn't agree more
[09:39] <gnomefreak> CainMadness: did it setup anything?
[09:39] <CainMadness> gnomefreak:  Yes it did.
[09:39] <CainMadness> gnomefreak: Several things.
[09:39] <gnomefreak> it should have said setting up <bleh>
[09:39] <gnomefreak> CainMadness: than your good
[09:39] <TheHermit> Goodnight all
[09:39] <CainMadness> gnomefreak:  Re-run Adept now?
[09:39] <gnomefreak> fixed report a bug against adept please
[09:39] <ForgeAus> bye back soon hopefully
[09:39] <gnomefreak> CainMadness: no need everything you downloaded is installed
[09:39] <TheHermit> Never mind ^_^
[09:40] <TheHermit> heheh
[09:40] <CainMadness> gnomefreak: Thank you!
[09:40] <gnomefreak> TheHermit: good morning instead?
[09:40] <gnomefreak> CainMadness: yw
[09:40] <TheHermit> gnomefreak, okay but here its night
[09:40] <gnomefreak> here its 3:30pm ish
[09:41] <LTSmash> stdin:thanks it worked ;-)
[09:41] <TheHermit> is there a problem if i installed the newest versions of some apps its ver is older in the adept
[09:41] <gnomefreak> TheHermit: huh?
[09:41] <CainMadness> gnomefreak: What about in Adept, when it gets up to 99% of headers? I generally click cancel after awhile, and it will go about installing all it has so far.
[09:41] <gnomefreak> depends what you have upgraded to and what you kept the older versions
[09:41] <ubuntu__> Hi
[09:41] <TheHermit> gnomefreak, its 10:50 pm
[09:42] <LTSmash> stdin: oh god, i got this
[09:42] <LTSmash> *** On GNU/Linux systems the GNU C Library should not be installed into
[09:42] <LTSmash> *** /usr/local since this might make your system totally unusable.
[09:42] <LTSmash> *** We strongly advise to use a different prefix.  For details read the FAQ.
[09:42] <LTSmash> *** If you really mean to do this, run configure again using the extra
[09:42] <LTSmash> *** parameter `--disable-sanity-checks'.
[09:42] <LTSmash> ferreteria@ferreteria-desktop:~/Desktop/glibxD/glibc-build$
[09:42] <LTSmash> stdin: now what should i do?
[09:42] <gnomefreak> CainMadness: sudo apt-get update. will finish the header downlaods please file a bug on adept with the issues you have with it
[09:42] <gnomefreak> !paste | LTSmash
[09:42] <ubotu> LTSmash: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[09:42] <cpk1> umm why build libc?
[09:43] <LTSmash> i need it for a program
[09:43] <gnomefreak> LTSmash: i also suggest you dont install/build a different version of glibc
[09:43] <cpk1> you already have libc
[09:43] <LTSmash> gnomefreak: i need a newer version
[09:43] <gnomefreak> LTSmash: you will have one program work what about the ones that wont work
[09:43] <TheHermit> gnomefreak, the amsn in the adept is 01.95 and there is newer ver is there a porblem if i installed it
[09:43] <gnomefreak> LTSmash: your system will render usless
[09:44] <TheHermit> 0.95*
[09:44] <gnomefreak> TheHermit: thats not an issue
[09:44] <stdin> LTSmash: try adding "--prefix=/usr" after configure
[09:44] <TheHermit> gnomefreak, okay
[09:44] <LTSmash> 1
[09:45] <gnomefreak> TheHermit: more of an issue is like what LTSmash is doing since the kernel he has and gcc and everything else depends on libc6
[09:45] <LTSmash> 2
[09:45] <LTSmash> 3
[09:45] <LTSmash> 4
[09:45] <LTSmash> 5
[09:45] <gnomefreak> LTSmash: stop that
[09:45] <LTSmash>   ferreteria@ferreteria-desktop:~$ plusd
[09:45] <LTSmash> plusd: /lib/libc.so.6: version `GLIBC_2.4' not found (required by /usr/lib64/mysql/libmysqlclient.so.14)
[09:45] <LTSmash> plusd: /lib/libc.so.6: version `GLIBC_2.4' not found (required by /lib/libssl.so.6)
[09:45] <LTSmash> plusd: /lib/libc.so.6: version `GLIBC_2.4' not found (required by /lib/libcrypto.so.6)
[09:45] <LTSmash> ferreteria@ferreteria-desktop:~$
[09:45] <gnomefreak> LjL: i had it
[09:45] <LjL> what the heck are you doing LTSmash
[09:45] <TheHermit> gnomefreak, ok
[09:45] <LTSmash> hey
[09:46] <LTSmash> the copybin didnt work
[09:46] <cpk1> it works
[09:46] <LTSmash> no it doesnt works
[09:46] <LjL> pastebin...
[09:46] <gnomefreak> if you go there and paste on that web site than hit send than give us the link it works fine
[09:46] <LTSmash> that thing
[09:46] <LTSmash> ah
[09:46] <LjL> and it's up and running
[09:46] <LTSmash> y didnt knew
[09:46] <LTSmash> sorry
[09:47] <LjL> you didn't know so it didn't work? ah ok :o)
[09:47] <LTSmash> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/3007/
[09:47] <gnomefreak> LTSmash: the bot told you that
[09:47] <gnomefreak> LTSmash: next time please read it all
[09:47] <LTSmash> i need that program working
[09:48] <LTSmash> so if theres no solution
[09:48] <LTSmash> i will upgrade to edgy
[09:48] <cpk1> LTSmash: you do know that upgrading your glib can cause many problems and break things that depend on your old version of glib
[09:50] <cpk1> everything that is anything depends on glibc
[09:52] <TheHermit> !amsn
[09:52] <ubotu> amsn: An MSN messenger written in tcl. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.95-2.1 (edgy), package size 2261 kB, installed size 7752 kB
[09:53] <juano__> TheHermit: get amsn 0.86
[09:53] <juano__> 0.96 lol
[09:53] <LTSmash> but i need glib working
[09:53] <LTSmash> i NEED THAT SOFT
[09:54] <nagyv> LTSmash: if you need it so much, then upgrade
[09:54] <LjL> LTSmash: what soft is that out of curiosity?
[09:54] <LTSmash> i will
[09:54] <LTSmash> LjL: a sales point
[09:55] <TheHermit> juano__, why ?
[09:55] <LTSmash> if i could get another sales point without taking the risk
[09:55] <juano__> TheHermit: http://amsn-project.net/linux-downloads.php
[09:55] <LjL> LTSmash: and it comes in binary-only form i suppose?
[09:55] <juano__> TheHermit: much better with webcam support and other stuff
[09:55] <TheHermit> juano__, i am on the site now
[09:55] <juano__> TheHermit: download the generic installer
[09:56] <juano__> TheHermit: for 0.96
[09:56] <TheHermit> juano__, okay
[09:56] <juano__> TheHermit: you need to get tcl8.4 first from repos
[09:57] <juano__> TheHermit: sudo apt-get install tcl8.4
[09:57] <TheHermit> juano__, okay
[09:57] <juano__> TheHermit: or from synaptic
[09:57] <nagyv> juano__: why not apt-get amsn directly?
[09:57] <juano__> nagyv: cause its 0.95 old version
[09:57] <TheHermit> adept
[09:57] <juano__> nagyv: not good with webcam and other stuff
[09:58] <TheHermit> nagyv, go to the site and vote for the new features will be incloded in the new ver wich will be newer that 095  http://amsn-project.net/linux-downloads.php
[09:59] <TheHermit> 0.96*
[09:59] <TheHermit> thanks juano__
[10:00] <juano__> TheHermit: no prob
[10:00] <juano__> TheHermit: if you need help with installing give me a msg
[10:01] <TheHermit> juano__, thanks i will see the instruction form the site
[10:01] <juano__> TheHermit: right its got a how to there
[10:01] <TheHermit> yes
[10:03] <TheHermit> juano__, its okay if i dowenload the auto package right
[10:04] <juano__> TheHermit: yes, the generic installer
[10:04] <TheHermit> juano__, oh yes
[10:04] <TheHermit> ok
[10:04] <juano__> TheHermit: in fact, its the only package for 0.96, cause the other distro specific packages are 0.95
[10:05] <TheHermit> juano__, ok
[10:06] <LTSmash> LjL: no, it comes in source and rpm
[10:06] <TheHermit> juano__, i had this And sorry for lines
[10:06] <TheHermit> Checking for required C library versions ... OK
[10:06] <TheHermit> Checking for X ... OK
[10:06] <TheHermit> Checking for TCL Scripting Language ... OK
[10:06] <TheHermit> Checking for Tk GUI Toolkit ... failed
[10:06] <TheHermit> -------------------------------
[10:06] <TheHermit> Error: Could not find 'Tk GUI Toolkit'. Try using the native package manager for Ubuntu 6.10 (apt-get) to install a package with similar name to 'tk'.
[10:06] <TheHermit> Error: Unable to prepare package AMSN MSN client.
[10:06] <juano__> TheHermit: get tk GUI form repos
[10:07] <LTSmash> LjL: i used the rpm converted to deb because the source failed to compile
[10:07] <TheHermit> okay i will see it
[10:07] <slyfox> Can I pull data from my Googel Calendar into Kontact- Calendar ?
[10:07] <LjL> LTSmash: is the source available for me to try?
[10:07] <juano__> TheHermit: sudo apt-get install tk8.4
[10:07] <TheHermit> ok
[10:08] <juano__> after getting that run the installer again
[10:09] <TheHermit> okay
[10:12] <TheHermit> juano__, Do you know deryl
[10:12] <nagyv> slyfox: you can use ical
[10:12] <juano__> TheHermit: deryl?? or beryl?
[10:12] <TheHermit> sorry with b
[10:12] <nagyv> slyfox: but as I know you won't be able to write it
[10:12] <juano__> TheHermit: heh, yep i have it installed
[10:12] <juano__> TheHermit: did amsn work now?
[10:13] <TheHermit> juano__, its installing
[10:13] <juano__> TheHermit: good
[10:13] <TheHermit> finished
[10:13] <juano__> TheHermit: run amsn from alt +F2 now or from internet apps
[10:13] <slyfox> nagyv: I cant find the ical anywhere from the lsit of available calendars, does it ahve a sepcial name ?
[10:13] <TheHermit> juano__, okay
[10:13] <nagyv> it is under the calendar's settings
[10:14] <TheHermit> juano__, So how can i install it beryl or it will take too long
[10:14] <nagyv> slyfox: ^^^
[10:14] <juano__> TheHermit: no, its not long, let me give you the link on the ow to
[10:14] <juano__> how*
[10:14] <slyfox> nagyv: what does this mean? "^^^" ?
[10:14] <TheHermit> okay
[10:14] <jk_> is there a way to force to kopete to automatically save chat history as it is usually done in other chat clients?
[10:15] <juano__> TheHermit: here you go http://wiki.beryl-project.org/index.php/Install/Ubuntu/Edgy/XGL
[10:15] <TheHermit> juano__, i had a problem with amsn icon do you know why
[10:15] <TheHermit> it doesnt appear
[10:15] <nagyv> slyfox: I forget to put your name, and these  ^^^ are the arrows
[10:15] <juano__> TheHermit: i know, mine doesnt either, ill have to check that
[10:15] <TheHermit> juano__, okay
[10:15] <stdin> or https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/InstallingBeryl
[10:15] <juano__> TheHermit: but its just a little detail :P
[10:15] <slyfox> nagyv: so back to calendar, which one of all of them is the iCal in there ?
[10:16] <juano__> TheHermit: that can be fixed
[10:16] <TheHermit> juano__, yes no problem i have icons for it
[10:16] <juano__> TheHermit: cool
[10:16] <TheHermit> yes
[10:16] <LTSmash> LjL: yes there is
[10:16] <nagyv> slyfox: the one where ical is written :)
[10:16] <LTSmash> LjL: look for BananaPOS in google
[10:16] <juano__> TheHermit: check this dir /usr/share/amsn/icons
[10:16] <TheHermit> juano__, okay
[10:16] <slyfox> nagyv: but there is no such thing there. When I go to add calendar, from all the choices iCal is not there. Are you sure ?
[10:17] <nagyv> first go to your google calendar, and search for the ical link there
[10:17] <nagyv> slyfox: ^^
[10:17] <TheHermit> juano__, is there a special vga cards to make it work
[10:17] <TheHermit> the beryl
[10:17] <slyfox> nagyv: already have that
[10:18] <juano__> TheHermit: no, it works with ATI and nvidia
[10:18] <stdin> and intel :)
[10:18] <TheHermit> juano__, okay
[10:18] <juano__> and intel stdin :)
[10:18] <slyfox> nagyv: here http://img379.imageshack.us/img379/7913/snapshot1of1.png
[10:19] <TheHermit> juano__, okay good
[10:19] <juano__> TheHermit: brb
[10:19] <nagyv> slyfox: calendar in remote file
[10:19] <TheHermit> okay
[10:22] <slyfox> nagyv: Now this http://img168.imageshack.us/img168/262/snapshot2yw0.png
[10:24] <nagyv> slyfox: how did you get this?
[10:25] <slyfox> nagyv: once I selected Gcal as a download calender (nothing for uplaod) it tried to update and I got this
[10:27] <slyfox> nagyv: I pressed ok on that error and GoogleCalendar loaded
[10:27] <nagyv> slyfox: cool :)
[10:30] <TheHermit> juano__, are you back
[10:30] <slyfox> nagyv: I get this error every time I add a new Calendar, do I maybe need to chmod it ?
[10:31] <nagyv> slyfox: I don't think. Try to restart Kontact-Korgranizer-whatever to see if your settings are saved
[10:31] <slyfox> nagyv: You mean if the Calendars are there or the view mode is saved ?
[10:31] <juano> TheHermit: yes
[10:32] <TheHermit> juano, what is TSL
[10:32] <juano__> TheHermit: tcl you mean?
[10:32] <TheHermit> juano, YEs sorry
[10:32] <nagyv> slyfox: the calendars
[10:32] <TheHermit> juano, How to keep sure i installed it correctly
[10:32] <juano__> TheHermit: a scrpting programming language
[10:32] <nagyv> slyfox: stop the reminder also!
[10:33] <TheHermit> juano, no no in the amsn
[10:33] <TheHermit> juano, never mind
[10:33] <slyfox> nagyv: calendars are there, but the error also pops up
[10:34] <juano__> TheHermit: amsn is written in tcl
[10:34] <juano__> TheHermit: you need tcl runtime files to execute amsn
[10:34] <nagyv> slyfox: I know, in the meantime I have checked it too. Simply delete the file.
[10:34] <TheHermit> juano, there is something comes out in the first login
[10:34] <nagyv> slyfox: probably korganizer wants to delete it using a non-authorized (virtual) user
[10:35] <TheHermit> juano__,no prob and okay
[10:35] <juano__> TheHermit: ok, you can do a dpkg -L tcl8.4 and see all the files installed from that package
[10:36] <juano__> TheHermit: same with every package
[10:36] <slyfox> nagyv: ok I deleted those temp files
[10:36] <TheHermit> juano__, okay
[10:36] <juano__> TheHermit: ill be back in a while
[10:36] <nagyv> slyfox: now restart Korgranizer (or do whatever you want :) )
[10:37] <TheHermit> juano__,okay
[10:37] <slyfox> nagyv: look now http://img126.imageshack.us/img126/5681/snapshot3cb3.jpg
[10:39] <Io____> rkfewjgkljdfkglw
[10:42] <CainMadness> Is gedit still used for editing source list files? When I try, it says that the command is not found.
[10:42] <nagyv> slyfox: it seems that you did not deleted the files (you don't need sudo, they are you files)
[10:42] <stdin> CainMadness: use kate not gedit, and kdesu not gksu
[10:43] <nagyv> slyfox: could you check the permissions and the owner of the file?
[10:43] <slyfox> nagyv: let me see
[10:43] <CainMadness> stdin: Thanks!
[10:45] <slyfox> nagyv: http://img144.imageshack.us/img144/7773/snapshot5bt6.jpg
[10:46] <kosta> !de
[10:46] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[10:47] <nagyv> slyfox: exactly what I told to you before. Koranizer would like to delete it, but it uses a different user for this, so it fails.
[10:47] <stdin> delete? I thought it said rename?
[10:48] <slyfox> nagyv: so there is no solution ?
[10:48] <nagyv> slyfox: close Korganizer, and delete them using Konqueror
[10:49] <Gokul> I have nvidia-glx drivers installed and enabled for my kubuntu-edgy system, but the screensaver runs ridiculously slow when using the 3d GL screensavers
[10:49] <Gokul> any idea why this is happening?
[10:50] <Gokul> I have a multi-head setup with GeForce 7300 GT/PCI/SSE2 card
[10:51] <nagyv> slyfox: do you still have the error message?
[10:52] <slyfox> nagyv: someone in #kontact tells me that this is a bug and they released a patch for it yeterday
[10:52] <nagyv> slyfox: cool, anyway in my case deleting the file worked well
[10:52] <slyfox> nagyv: how do you delte it using korganizer? I can only view and preview with korganizer these files
[10:53] <nagyv> slyfox: use konqueror
[10:54] <slyfox> nagyv: exactly and when I right click I get open with and preview with Korganizer
[10:54] <nagyv> slyfox: and you can also delete it
[10:54] <ktonyy> anybody speak spanich ?
[10:54] <nagyv> !es
[10:54] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[10:54] <ktonyy> spanish
[10:55] <nagyv> ktonyy: they speak it :)
[10:55] <ktonyy> i know but anybody answer my question
[10:55] <slyfox> nagyv: when I start Kontact again, these files are created again
[10:55] <nagyv> slyfox: and did you received the error message?
[10:56] <ktonyy> no responden mi pregunta
[10:56] <slyfox> nagyv: not yet, hold on
[10:57] <ktonyy> anybody dont doesnt answer my question
[10:57] <ktonyy> jajaja
[10:57] <ktonyy> all right
[10:57] <slyfox> nagyv: korganizer daemon was running by the way when I jsut launched kontact and before that I would quit both and start kontact which would launch korganizer and I would get the error messaages
[10:57] <misha> can anyone help with a borked konsole?
[10:58] <ktonyy> i cant listen my mp3 in amarok  why ?
[10:58] <slyfox> ktonyy: You need a codect, when you play mp3 in Amarok, it asks you to get the mp3 codec allow it to do so
[10:58] <misha> ktonyy: installed the codecs?
[10:58] <nagyv> slyfox: strange, I just started to google after a solution to write google cal with korganizer, that can help to you too
[10:59] <slyfox> nagyv: from #kontact : <winterz> slyfox: I think Bille put in a patch for that bug yesterday.
[10:59] <matt0507> ktonyy: open adept and look for w32codec and instal that, should be able to play  p3s
[10:59] <ktonyy> misha:  nop LOL please write me  the url pls to download
[10:59] <slyfox> nagyv: and then they ask me if I know how to build from source
[10:59] <slyfox> nagyv: "<winterz> slyfox: can you build from source?"
[11:00] <ktonyy> ok misha
[11:00] <slyfox> nagyv: I say not and they say "<winterz> slyfox: then I guess you'll have to wait for kde 3.5.7"
[11:00] <nagyv> slyfox: I just read this: http://mail.kde.org/pipermail/korganizer-devel/2006-December/000899.html
[11:01] <arne00> hi iv'e got a broadcom bcm4310 wlan card and are now looking for drivers. does anybody know some good HOWTO page with drivers?
[11:01] <nagyv> slyfox: http://svn.opensync.org/plugins/google-calendar/
[11:01] <ubuntu_> hiii
[11:01] <misha> ktonyy: have you got universe and mulitverse reops added?
[11:01] <ninHer> hi all
[11:01] <TheHermit_> How to keep sure that TLS in the amsn working
[11:02] <ubuntu_> I just got the latest kubuntu dvd; but they still haven't fixed the problem with graphics in the installation
[11:02] <misha> ktonyy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats has all you need to know
[11:02] <ubuntu_> it's a serious usability issue; nobody new to linux in their right mind would expect 'safe' mode to operate at a higher resolution
[11:02] <slyfox> nagyv: let me see
[11:03] <ubuntu_> not quite
[11:03] <ubuntu_> I am talking about when installing kubuntu from the live dvd
[11:03] <ubuntu_> i think this needs to be addressed for the next build
[11:04] <ubuntu_> oh wait will come back
[11:04] <yuriy> ubuntu_: which installer is that? newest feisty? and what do you mean, is "safe" mode the open sourse and not safe is binary?
[11:05] <ktonyy> thanks misha
[11:06] <ForgeAus> whats error 14 in grub?
[11:06] <ForgeAus> or was it 17...
[11:06] <ForgeAus> hmmm
[11:07] <slyfox> nagyv: I submitted a vote for Gcal
[11:07] <nagyv> slyfox: where?
[11:08] <slyfox> nagyv: The link you gave me http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=125952
[11:09] <slyfox> nagyv: since All I need is to do list and caledanr, I might as well jsut use SunBird
[11:09] <slyfox> nagyv: for notes I use TiddlyWiki
[11:09] <slyfox> nagyv: gone to eat be back soon.
[11:10] <libben> I have an external hd 250 gb on USB 2.0. I want to dualboot with debian and xp and use this external drive for both system... just for storing. no installation files on it. just video and musik and other static data. wich way is the proper way to go? im thinking of using ex2 on it and access with fs-drive
[11:12] <yuriy> libben that would work. or you could go with fat32 but then i think you'd have to partition it
[11:12] <libben> yeah.. alot =)
[11:12] <TheHermit> does chmod a+x enable permision for me for the files which they owened by the root
[11:12] <libben> how much can fat32 take?
[11:13] <libben> 115 gb?
[11:13] <yuriy> something like that, so a couple partitions
[11:13] <libben> is there any downsides on using fat32? except the no journal filesystem
[11:13] <stdin> TheHermit: chmod a+x make the file executable to all users (if you own it)
[11:14] <ForgeAus> how do I get a list of partitions on a drive (sdb) again?
[11:14] <stdin> ForgeAus: sudo fdisk -l /dev/sdb
[11:14] <ForgeAus> and the reference as to what type they are corresponding to which /dev/sdb they are
[11:14] <TheHermit> stdin, i need to copy skins to the amsn and its permison to root and i do that command and nothing happened
[11:14] <ForgeAus> thanx stdin
[11:15] <TheHermit> stdin, so how to enable copy skins to the amsn folder
[11:15] <TheHermit> only amsn can i ?
[11:15] <ForgeAus> ahh its changed to sdb2
[11:15] <ForgeAus> somehow
[11:15] <ForgeAus> which kinda works for me
[11:15] <stdin> TheHermit: do you want to copy them somewhere ?
[11:15] <ForgeAus> so I need to take 1 from the references in grub
[11:16] <TheHermit> yes , to this /usr/share/amsn/skins
[11:16] <TheHermit> but i cant
[11:16] <stdin> TheHermit: use sudo cp
[11:16] <ForgeAus> that should fix it
[11:16] <TheHermit> okay
[11:16] <ForgeAus> brb
[11:16] <stdin> TheHermit: or to use konqueror: kdesu konqueror
[11:17] <TheHermit> okay
[11:17] <Pirate-king> hello
[11:17] <Pirate-king> how do you download podcastd
[11:21] <Pirate-king> how do you download podcasts?
[11:21] <Pirate-king> I got gtkpod
[11:21] <stdin> I just use hpodder
[11:21] <Pirate-king> to download podcastd?
[11:21] <stdin> yeah
[11:21] <Pirate-king> hmmmm
[11:22] <ForgeAus> back ... again
[11:22] <ForgeAus> still error 17
[11:23] <ForgeAus> but I think I know why its still about the partition shifting itself
[11:23] <TheHermit> stdin, i had this link deb http://ubuntu.beryl-project.org/ edgy main     i want to add it to the source list .....add this under what in the source list?
[11:24] <yuriy> TheHermit: just add it anywhere as a new line in the file
[11:25] <TheHermit> yuriy, okay thanks
[11:26] <yuriy> TheHermit: you can also put it in in adept if you go to manage repositories
[11:26] <stdin> TheHermit: you can put it anywhere in the file
[11:26] <TheHermit> i will see it i think its more easier
[11:26] <Trixsey> Will the next version of Kubuntu come with KDE4?
[11:26] <slyfox> Beryl is insane, 256mg of video card.. :-(  I only have 128
[11:26] <stdin> TheHermit: or you can make a new files in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/beryl.list
[11:27] <Trixsey> slyfox, it works with 128mb too
[11:27] <stdin> Trixsey: no
[11:27] <Trixsey> stdin, I have 128mb
[11:27] <Trixsey> and beryl works for me :P
[11:27] <TheHermit> stdin, okay
[11:27] <Trixsey> *lol
[11:27] <slyfox> Trixsey: it works only for about 5 windows, the rest are balck becasue of lack of video memory
[11:27] <Trixsey> oh
[11:27] <stdin> Trixsey: it was an answer to the KDE 4 q
[11:27] <Trixsey> I'm not really too heavy on multitasking anyway
[11:27] <Trixsey> so wasn't something I noticed
[11:27] <slyfox> Trixsey: maybe ask in #kde when they plan to release KDE4 and see if it will be before April for next Kubuntu
[11:28] <Trixsey> stdin, ohhh ok
[11:28] <slyfox> Trixsey: Are you running it now ?
[11:28] <slyfox> Trixsey: what video card ?
[11:28] <Trixsey> A radeon mobility card
[11:28] <slyfox> Trixsey: once KDE4 comes out you can easily update
[11:28] <Trixsey> right now? no.. its a little unstable, latest version
[11:28] <slyfox> Trixsey: yeha, I have an nvidia and Nvidia has issues with Beryl
[11:29] <slyfox> Trixsey: yeah, it is still in beta
[11:29] <Trixsey> funny
[11:29] <stdin> KDE4 won't be out for a while, it's still under heavy development
[11:29] <Trixsey> I heard ATI had more probs with beryl than nvidia :p
[11:29] <Trixsey> stdin, for a while as in for another 4-5 months?
[11:29] <slyfox> Trixsey: well nvidia has a famous black window bug
[11:31] <stdin> Trixsey: ask the guys in #kde , especially Sho_
[11:32] <selecta_g> Hello all, I have a problem with KNode in Kontact ("Library files for "libknodepart.la" not found in paths"). Can anyone help please?
[11:32] <ForgeAus> ok trying again
[11:33] <stdin> selecta_g: the file libknodepart.la is in the package knode, if that helps
[11:33] <selecta_g> I thought of trying to install knode again, tried the package manager but it is greyed out and not selectable
[11:34] <stdin> selecta_g: try from konsole
[11:34] <selecta_g> with apt-get?
[11:34] <stdin> selecta_g: yeah
[11:35] <libben> I will allways be able to read a mounted NTFS without any problem?
[11:35] <selecta_g> thanks stdin: $apt-get install knode returns "...no installation candidate"
[11:36] <stdin> selecta_g: do you have universe enabled ?
[11:36] <selecta_g> Oh, I don;t know.... how do i find out and enable it?
[11:36] <stdin> selecta_g: either look in adept, or in your sources.list
[11:37] <stdin> here be da guide...
[11:37] <stdin> !repos
[11:37] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[11:45] <selecta_g> stdin and ubotu - thanks, followed the instructions there and still cannot find knode
[11:47] <selecta_g> ahhh, made a mistake. Sorry... trying again
[11:48] <LjL> any particular counterindications you've encountered with installing KDE 3.5.6? (feel free to use a query to avoid flooding the channel with answers - though i'm sure you wouldn't)
[11:51] <selecta_g> ubotu and stdin: many thanks - you did it!! Thanks again
[11:51] <ubotu> and: Auto Nice Daemon. In component universe, is extra. Version 1.2.2-1.1 (edgy), package size 25 kB, installed size 132 kB
[12:01] <Pinguin2> buenas
[12:01] <PhinnFort> !$PATH
[12:01] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about PATH - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:02] <Pinguin2> alguien sabe como hacer una httml que contenga un listado de vinculos a archivos de un directorio, para bajar?
[12:03] <ForgeAus> ok I think I need help about now
[12:03] <ForgeAus> grub error 17 means it can't mount a partition right?
[12:06] <ForgeAus> why isn't hd1,1 the partition where grub should be pointing to?
[12:08] <ForgeAus> ok I'll try a different tact (see if it can find my old currently non-functional XP - at least the NTLDR bit works
[12:08] <ForgeAus> I just hate having to reboot and reload the live cd each time I make a change to check it... I'd rather be reasonably sure its right first!
[12:09] <sparr> the kubuntu installer set up my fstab to use UUIDs instead of device names.  how do i find/generate UUIDs for the rest of the things I want to automount?