[07:37] <tyler_d> whitedeth: none support scanning
[07:37] <DarkMageZ> whitedeth, homestarrunner =D
[07:37] <SS2> how can I manualy check the ext3 system? so that it doesn't always check on booting (that 30x check force)
[07:37] <fgh_lo> i have 1 user acct on my box. i want to create a seprate acct only for samba users. is this possible using the '/bin/false' method?
[07:38] <whitedeth> tyler_id: Your computer/laptop isnt detecting your WiFi device.
[07:38] <FunnyLookinHat> Mal, most laptop graphics cards won't do that too well (except for the high end ATI / nVidia cards)
[07:38] <ladydoor> SS2: well, you can set a partition to not check...
[07:38] <whitedeth> tyler_d: Cant help you more, maybe someone with more experience than me can. Sorry..
[07:38] <hastesaver> SS2, tune2fs or something...
[07:38] <SS2> ladydoor: bad idea
[07:38] <ladydoor> SS2: it's not recommended at all, but it's possible and easy.
[07:38] <tyler_d> whitedeth: but it shows up in my network manager?
[07:38] <ladydoor> SS2: right.
[07:38] <whitedeth> when the hell is flash player 9 coming out??
[07:38] <ladydoor> !language
[07:38] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[07:38] <SS2> well I want to do it manualy, not on the boot time
[07:38] <ladydoor> why is everybody cursing so much tonight?
[07:39] <iLLf8d> heh
[07:39] <SS2> *g*
[07:39] <DarkMageZ> whitedeth, flash 9 beta is coming soon :P
[07:39] <whitedeth> "hell" is cursing?? :|
[07:39] <tyler_d> ladydoor: cause my wireless card isn't working
[07:39] <DarkMageZ> whitedeth, yes, stop it please
[07:39] <MistaED> ma1: we must talk sometime :P
[07:39] <ladydoor> whitedeth: in that context, yes.
[07:39] <Senesence> ladydoor: Not me
[07:39] <whitedeth> sorry, didnt realize I was in #christian.
[07:39] <SS2> boykott flash -.-
[07:39] <Ma1> FunnyLookinHat, alright... that's too bad because there's a big difference in price between a laptop with intel950 and one with a ati or nvidia card
[07:39] <ladydoor> whitedeth: you're not. just give it a rest.
[07:39] <DarkMageZ> whitedeth, the code of conduct has something about not offending people :P
[07:39] <whitedeth> DarkMageZ: Homestarrunner, page asks me to download flash plugin.
[07:40] <fgh_lo> i have 1 user acct on my box. i want to create a seprate acct only for samba users. is this possible using the '/bin/false' method? anyone?
[07:40] <Kream> hi all
[07:40] <FunnyLookinHat> Mal, as you should expect  : )     If you REALLY want a good graphics card in your laptop get the new nVidia 7900 Mobile (or something similiar) but it will run you about an extra 400
[07:40] <whitedeth> Naw, im just being difficult, sorry. Wont happen again.
[07:40] <Kream> I can't seem to enable colours in my vim installation and it's driving me nuts
[07:40] <DarkMageZ> whitedeth, ok good. change .mozilla2 back to .mozilla
[07:40] <Ma1> MistaED, what do you wanna talk about?
[07:40] <FunnyLookinHat> Mal, You will also want to get 2GB of ram probably, just a suggestion.
[07:40] <iLLf8d> whitedeth, ladydoor is a bit touchy
[07:40] <DarkMageZ> and then rerun firefox
[07:40] <Senesence> Soo, anyone know how to install a pcf font on ubuntu?
[07:40] <whitedeth> DarkMageZ: Item could not be renamed.
[07:40] <MistaED> ma1: 3d animation, i'm into it as well just with maya though
[07:40] <iLLf8d> sorry that might be construed as offensive to those who have a sense of touch
[07:41] <DarkMageZ> whitedeth, close firefox. delete .mozilla then rename .mozilla2 to .mozilla
[07:41] <SS2> ah, wont't bring anything since no partition is ment to be mountet at check time
[07:41] <SS2> *won't
[07:41] <Slynderdale> http://yro.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=06/06/29/2318251
[07:41] <Slynderdale> Ack
[07:41] <wickedpuppy> MistaED, you know where to get maya for linux ? there was someone asking for it a few days ago
[07:42] <Slynderdale> What version is the Ubuntu Linux kernal?
[07:42] <whitedeth> 6.10
[07:42] <whitedeth> ?
[07:42] <Ma1> FunnyLookinHat, yeah... but could I buy the card separatly and install it? I know laptops at all.. I don't even know if you can open them...
[07:42] <fgh_lo> i find that 837 users don't know the answer to my question.
[07:42] <whitedeth> DarkMageZ: Homestarrunner just exited the browser again :|
[07:42] <ladydoor> Slynderdale: uname -r
[07:42] <whitedeth> :(
[07:42] <wickedpuppy> Linux wickedpuppy 2.6.15-27-386 #1 PREEMPT Sat Sep 16 01:51:59 UTC 2006 i686 GNU/Linux
[07:42] <DarkMageZ> Slynderdale, 2.6.15 for dapper / 2.6.17 for edgy
[07:42] <wickedpuppy> fgh_lo, 836 .. ubotu is a bot
[07:42] <DarkMageZ> whitedeth, ok, rename .mozilla to .mozilla2
[07:43] <Ma1> MistaED, cool, do you have a hotmail account? would get in contact
[07:43] <binary_goofy> hi room! am trying to get sound working on railroad tyoon 2. can somebody pls help???
[07:43] <ladydoor> Senesence: what type of package is the font in, and is there a comparable package in the repositories?
[07:43] <whitedeth> DarkMageZ: Done.
[07:43] <FunnyLookinHat> Mal, no not likely.  Laptops are pre-built very particularly and unless you have a lot of money and skill you won't be able to install one.
[07:43] <o0vapermonkey0o> does wow work with wine having problems loading char
[07:43] <FunnyLookinHat> Mal, it would cost you more money to do it separately on your own than when you originally purchase the machine.
[07:43] <Senesence> ladydoor: tar.gz when extracted its pcf. Can't find anything like it in synaptic. It this font here http://www.netalive.org/tinkering/triskweline/
[07:44] <iLLf8d> binary_goofy, that might be a tough one given how long ago that was ported and how long ago loki went under
[07:44] <hastesaver> fgh_lo, what is the "/bin/false method"? `false` is just a command to do nothing and return false; what method are you speaking of?
[07:44] <FunnyLookinHat> o0vapermonkey0o, try #wine or #cedega     they would know
[07:44] <DarkMageZ> whitedeth, ok, open synaptic package manager and search for "flashplugin" and tell me what version it says is available
[07:44] <Ma1> FunnyLookinHat, that's too bad, I like to open my pc and change things, and upgrade..
[07:44] <fgh_lo> hastesaver: is it possible to add samba users using this method? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=79588&highlight=sftp
[07:44] <Sktfeelsdapper> So how come it shows my hdb1 (second hard drive) on my desktop, but the files inside I can only get to from it's real location?
[07:44] <o0vapermonkey0o> http://appdb.winehq.org/appview.php?iVersionId=5606 is the page i need help with the nvidia part at the bottom
[07:44] <iLLf8d> binary_goofy, have you gotten it working with any newer nixes lately?
[07:44] <MistaED> ma1: yep just check the pm/query
[07:45] <FunnyLookinHat> Mal, as do I.  Laptops are just a different story all together.  I service laptops as a consultant but I do not EVER work on laptops (hardly ever, that is) simply because they are so difficult and not worth the time.
[07:45] <hastesaver> Does anyone if it there is a way to capture soundcard's output to a file? Windows had programs for this, but I got rid of it 6 months ago :(
[07:45] <Sktfeelsdapper> like say if i want to download music to a specific folder inside my second hd, i have to go /media/hdb1
[07:45] <ladydoor> Senesence: hmmm. i would suggest posting a quesiton on the forums. however, it *may* be possible to put it into one of your font dirs and then run sudo update-fonts-dir on it...
[07:45] <iLLf8d> anyone know if the oss compatibility layer is enabled in ubuntu?
[07:45] <whitedeth> DarkMageZ: List of 48 packages :|
[07:45] <eviltux> gnite all
[07:45] <ladydoor> Senesence: however, i'm not sure whether this would have a detrimental effect or not.
[07:45] <o0vapermonkey0o> i am asking there also
[07:45] <Llewxam> anyone could help me re-set the access to my workgroup computers in dapper? can't seem to be able to anymore.
[07:45] <binary_goofy> iLL: true, but there has to b some fix to it. reading d forums, came across others who solved d issue, but that method didn't work for me. am running ubuntu 6.06 now. sound works fine on everything else.
[07:46] <whitedeth> DarkMageZ: flashplugin-nonfree Latest Version available is <IP_ADDRESS>ubuntu3
[07:46] <Kream> does anyone here have colours working in vim ?
[07:46] <DarkMageZ> whitedeth, ah :) here we go
[07:46] <iLLf8d> binary_goofy, I dunno if ubuntu ships with the oss compat stuff turned on (that may/may not help)
[07:46] <ladydoor> Senesence: the font-dirs can be found in /usr/share/X11/fonts. but if you do this without posting to the forums first, *be careful*
[07:46] <whitedeth> DarkMageZ: You know the problem?
[07:46] <iLLf8d> binary_goofy, dunno how kernel savvy you are but there are kernel options for the oss stuff
[07:46] <Ma1> FunnyLookinHat, I would like to stay far from laptops but I'm going on a trip for 9 months and I just need it... I've been shopping in the web and 2 candidates have got my attention : Dell and Apple
[07:47] <Senesence> ladydoor: Did something like that. Placed it in the /usr/share/fonts , and ran fc-cache -f -v. Did nothing. Already posted a question on the forums http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=269528 no answer.
[07:47] <Ma1> MistaED, you'll have to tell me what mean pm/query
[07:47] <binary_goofy> iLL: i have OSS, ALSA both installed. have tried choosing both thru gstreamer, but doesn't help.
[07:47] <DarkMageZ> whitedeth, "wget http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/multiverse/f/flashplugin-nonfree/flashplugin-nonfree_7.0.68~ubuntu2~dapper1_i386.deb" then "sudo dpkg -i flashplug"(tab)
[07:47] <hastesaver> fgh_lo, oh, that. Easiest is to go to System->Administration->Users and groups (or whatever it's called), add a new user, and set the user's shell (from /bin/bash) to /bin/false.
[07:47] <ladydoor> Senesence: hmmmm. odd.
[07:47] <Llewxam> anyone could help me re-set the access to my workgroup computers in dapper? can't seem to be able to anymore.
[07:48] <FunnyLookinHat> Mal, the Dell XPS line would probably have the performance you want
[07:48] <Kream> mm
[07:48] <iLLf8d> Ma1, hey I got  a dell its nice and all but the touchpad is a bit touchy and the airflow setup isn't the best (ie if you jam up the bottom of it with pant legs)
[07:48] <MistaED> ma1: what irc client are you using? there should be a tab with my name
[07:48] <Kream> maybe i'm asking the wrong question here... does anyone here even USE vim ?
[07:48] <Senesence> ladydoor: Yea I could always try the ttf version, but isnt pcf supposed to be better?
[07:48] <hastesaver> Kream, "syntax on" in ~/.vimrc
[07:48] <ladydoor> Senesence: i don't know.
[07:48] <Ma1> MistaED, I'm using gaim.. I'll check this out
[07:49] <iLLf8d> binary_goofy, I dunno what to tellya I was just gonna recommend you enable oss in case that might be the issue other then that I dunno
[07:49] <Senesence> ladydoor: No problem, thanks for taking a look at it though.
[07:49] <tyler_d> ok... so a wmp54gs in a piano antec case will not seat properly....
[07:49] <fgh_lo> hastesaver: but i get the error 'failed to find entry for user samba user' and 'failed to modify password' when adding a samba user
[07:49] <whitedeth> DarkMageZ: installing now :)
[07:49] <Kream> hastesaver: thank you :)
[07:49] <DarkMageZ> whitedeth, good. once it's installed. visit homestar again :)
[07:50] <fgh_lo> hastesaver: using 'sudo smbpasswd -L sambauser'
[07:50] <whitedeth> DarkMageZ: heh, should I rename .mozilla2 back to .mozilla though?
[07:50] <DarkMageZ> whitedeth, it should either crash or not crash
[07:50] <binary_goofy> iLL: thanx :) but tried it already.
[07:50] <Ma1> iLLf8d, thanks for the info
[07:50] <DarkMageZ> whitedeth, definantly not :P
[07:50] <whitedeth> oh
[07:50] <DarkMageZ> whitedeth, we will get to your bookmark soon :)
[07:50] <iLLf8d> Ma1, oh and one more thing if you get the dell they won't shipya any cds unless you request them and they'll chargeya like $25 delivery cost
[07:50] <hastesaver> fgh_lo, did that username have spaces in it? That's usually a mess (you have to escape spaces with backslashes, etc...) Try adding another user (from the GUI I told you) without a space
[07:51] <iLLf8d> Ma1, assuming you're like me and wipe the hd first thing
[07:51] <iLLf8d> Ma1, do you have any osx experience?
[07:51] <Ma1> iLLf8d, yes, but I don't need their cds for that
[07:51] <whitedeth> DarkMageZ: I presume I have to restart FF?
[07:51] <DarkMageZ> whitedeth, it's a good idea
[07:51] <Ma1> iLLf8d, no I have none
[07:52] <iLLf8d> Ma1, you gotta watch it then seems people either really love osx or hate it
[07:52] <iLLf8d> Ma1, unless you plan on nuking it and just using the hw
[07:52] <whitedeth> DarkMageZ: Crashed.
[07:52] <mneptok> *boing*
[07:52] <Ma1> iLLf8d I tried it very very quicly at futureshop :P and I didn't liked it very much
[07:52] <whitedeth> flash hates me :(
[07:52] <DarkMageZ> whitedeth, are you currently running xgl or aiglx?
[07:53] <fgh_lo> hastesaver: i did, but im still getting that error
[07:53] <iLLf8d> its got alot of nice features but the staticness of the gui setup gets on my nerves and its borglike qualities can be scary
[07:53] <hastesaver> fgh_lo, do you know what exactly you're doing?
[07:53] <Ma1> iLLf8d, though it is a very good os for graphist which I plan to be..
[07:53] <iLLf8d> although I know alot of nixers who try it and love it
[07:53] <DarkMageZ> whitedeth, i'd suggest disabling it and trying again. some people have had issues with those technologies and flash player 7
[07:53] <fgh_lo> hastesaver: yes. i did this before
[07:53] <whitedeth> DarkMageZ: Know how to disable it?
[07:54] <hastesaver> fgh_lo, has a user called (whatever username you gave) been created? Try doing "finger <username>"
[07:54] <DarkMageZ> whitedeth, the reverse of enabling it. it varies from method to method
[07:54] <DarkMageZ> whitedeth, lol, wait are you on edgy?
[07:55] <iLLf8d> hastesaver, wow haven't used finger in years didn't recall its output looked like that in linux
[07:55] <whitedeth> DarkMageZ: Nope, Dapper with Beryl installed, AIGLX installed but I've yet to use it, still havent installed the GPU drivers (nVidia beta)
[07:55] <UnL0CkER> how do I start sshd?
[07:55] <After_effects12> Anyone know if there is a mac OSX version of wine?
[07:55] <Ma1> iLLf8d the thing is, I can get used to a GUI, but what scares me is that I won't have access to all my opensource software I use.
[07:55] <mneptok> UnL0CkER: sshd is not installed by default
[07:55] <hastesaver> iLLf8d, do you know a better way to check if a user exists? :(
[07:55] <mneptok> UnL0CkER: sudo apt-get install openssh-server
[07:55] <mneptok> UnL0CkER: it will start itself
[07:55] <lastnode__> After_effects12, #winehq
[07:55] <gansinho> please could someone help me, I'm helping a friend to install ubuntu dapper in his pc however during the install in the "select keyboard layout" screen it doesn't show any model to select, so we can't select to forwad the instalation...
[07:56] <DarkMageZ> whitedeth, ah, k. i was thinking i fed you the wrong flashplugin. definently should disable xgl and beryl and see if that helps
[07:56] <fgh_lo> hastesaver: the ~ dir has been created. /home/sambauser /bin/false
[07:56] <UnL0CkER> mneptok, is the livecd
[07:56] <iLLf8d> hastesaver, check /etc/group (doesn't mean their environment is setup tho)
[07:56] <whitedeth> DarkMageZ: Looks like im stuck then. I've no idea how to do either.
[07:56] <gansinho> In step 3 out of 6
[07:56] <mneptok> UnL0CkER: then you get no sshd
[07:56] <iLLf8d> or home for that matter
[07:56] <UnL0CkER> got be kiding me
[07:56] <DarkMageZ> whitedeth, do you have the ubuntu desktop cd? or the alternative?
[07:57] <whitedeth> DarkMageZ: Got three discs, dapper (which wont boot anymore for some reason), Edgy knot 3 and Edgy beta.
[07:57] <hastesaver> UnL0CkER, do you plan to use the live cd permanently? :)
[07:57] <mneptok> UnL0CkER: no, because in order to fit live and installation stuff on a single CD, things must be omitted. Ubuntu installs very few listening daemons by default, even with a server install.
[07:57] <devicenull> wow, I probably should not have installed desktop
[07:57] <hastesaver> UnL0CkER, actually, you *can* install on the live CD too. "sudo apt-get install ssh" should work fine, too
[07:57] <devicenull> I see so much being installed that I'm going to remove..
[07:57] <iLLf8d> gansinho, did you check to make sure the disc is good? I had alot of trouble with ubuntu install discs for some reason my burner didn't likem (which is wierd cause it fine on everything else)
[07:58] <devicenull> its bad..
[07:58] <DarkMageZ> whitedeth, hmm. well, i'm at a loss on why it's not working. tho you're the second person with the same issue today...
[07:58] <whitedeth> wow.
[07:58] <DarkMageZ> whitedeth, and i know homestar runner works fine under flash 7...
[07:58] <hastesaver> devicenull, it's a *desktop* for the average user, what do you expect? I've removed nothing that was installed, and I've felt a lot of things missing too (gcc, emacs,...)
[07:59] <devicenull> it doesnt have gcc?
[07:59] <devicenull> wow.
[07:59] <devicenull> I have never seen a linux distro not install gcc
[07:59] <devicenull> but I guess for most people, it doesnt matrter
[07:59] <hastesaver> devicenull, I think edgy has it, but the previous versions didn't. (But I may be *very very* wrong here...)
[07:59] <Slynderdale> For those who dual boot Windows and Linux: http://www.fs-driver.org/ It provides Windows NT4.0/2000/XP with full access to Linux Ext2 volumes (read access and write access). So basicly, on WIndows, you can access the Linux drives/partitions normally as if they were like any other drive.
[07:59] <gansinho> iLLf8d: thanks I'll check!
[07:59] <DarkMageZ> devicenull, the home user shouldn't need a compiler, so no compiler is installed by default :P
[07:59] <hastesaver> devicenull, but why do you want to remove things anyway? disk space?
[08:00] <harisund> devicenull, yeah ...first Linux distro I am using that doesn't have gcc out of the box (not that it is hard to get ..but still) ... but then considering the target users of the distro, I wouldn't blame it ..
[08:00] <whitedeth> DarkMageZ: Eh, flashpalyer doesnt bother me much. Might as well surf the internet with it off. I'll just go rename .mozilla to .mozilla2 and start from scratch. Unless installing Konqueror is easy?
[08:00] <UnL0CkER> ssh or sshd?
[08:00] <devicenull> 20gb HD, I'd prefer not having stuff I didn't need
[08:00] <hastesaver> DarkMageZ, the home user doesn't need an operating system disguised as an editor either, I guess :)
[08:00] <UnL0CkER> hastesaver, ssh or sshd?/
[08:00] <devicenull> meh, I probably would have been better off with a different distro for my laptop
[08:00] <iLLf8d> gansinho, yeah its really wierd that it happened too cause my cd burner hasn't botched more then 1 disc in about 3000 burns too till the ubuntu isos
[08:00] <robitaille> harisund,   edgy install gcc by default.  First ubuntu version that do so
[08:00] <hastesaver> UnL0CkER, ssh
[08:00] <DarkMageZ> devicenull, if you wish to have a compiler then please install the build-essential package :P
[08:00] <UnL0CkER> k
[08:00] <john> I am haveing trouble reinstalling wine.
[08:00] <UnL0CkER> thx man
[08:00] <harisund> robitaille, nice ... good to hear that...
[08:01] <Consty> Is there anyway to install amarok/k3b without installing all of KDE's crap?  As in the kdebins package and etc.. I dont want to install kde, just the dependencies that are necessary as in QT.
[08:01] <hastesaver> whitedeth, apt-get install kubuntu-desktop will install a working KDE system on your desktop, after about a 100 MB of download. You get to try KDE too :)
[08:01] <iLLf8d> gansinho, maybe my powersupplys dying or memory or something hrm I should check that
[08:01] <robitaille> harisund,  most users probably never uses it...including myself :)
[08:01] <harisund> robitaille, indeed... you are right.
[08:01] <Consty> Or do both those programs use much of what KDE has?
[08:01] <whitedeth> 100MB!? Joy. That's over an hour on my 256k connection.
[08:01] <orion2012> Consty: both of those _are_ kde apps, not just QT
[08:01] <john> I have deleted .wine and uninstalled it from package manager.
[08:01] <DarkMageZ> whitedeth, k, you'll find that there is a copy of the flashplayer in your old .mozilla directory. you'll want to remove it and also remove the flashplugin-nonfree package :P
[08:01] <Consty> I see, so you have to download everything then.
[08:01] <harisund> can someone point me to a quick howto or a guide that explains how I can have my dhcp3-server automatically update my bind9 (on the same machine) with the info of my dhcp clients?
[08:01] <gansinho> iLLf8d: wile using the live cd it doesn' use anything from the hd?
[08:01] <whitedeth> DarkMageZ: Why?
[08:02] <DarkMageZ> whitedeth, to remove flash?
[08:02] <john> Now, I have installed it from the package manager and dont know what to do to get it owrking?
[08:02] <whitedeth> heatesaver: One last question, will installing the KDE system affect my running Beryl or AIGLX?
[08:02] <iLLf8d> gansinho, shouldn't have too unless you mount something
[08:02] <hastesaver> whitedeth, ok, so just search for and install the package related to konqueror. This should be a lot of MB, too, I think, though.
[08:02] <hastesaver> whitedeth, I don't see why it should affect that...
[08:02] <whitedeth> sweet. Thanks for ya'll help.
[08:02] <Consty> Also anyone know why when you install the nonfree flash plugin that it doesn't show up in firefox?  I had to install it manually.
[08:02] <whitedeth> dinner time :)
[08:02] <mo> how do I get fluxbux to run under gnome as my wm?
[08:03] <john> Build-dependencies for wine could not be satisfied.
[08:03] <john>  - what should I do (installing wine)
[08:03] <robitaille> Consty,  how did you install it? using apt-get or something else?
[08:03] <gansinho> iLLf8d: so if he had made a missinstall of ubuntu before, it won't affect anything in a new instalation?
[08:03] <Consty> robitaille: Just apt-get
[08:03] <gansinho> missinstall
[08:03] <Consty> robitaille: actually I use synaptic to install it..
[08:04] <iLLf8d> gansinho, does he have another os on the machine and did he rewrite the partitions changes on the new install?
[08:04] <DarkMageZ> Consty, what version is the flashplugin-nonfree package you installed?
[08:04] <Consty> 7
[08:04] <robitaille> Consty,  that should have worked.  There used to be a bug a while back when using apt-get...you didn't see the "accept the macromedia license", thus it was not installed properly;  but it should work with synaptics
[08:04] <DarkMageZ> Consty, 7.?
[08:05] <^Ocean^> i seem to be missing Module.symvers how do i generate this file ?  should be in /usr/src/linux
[08:05] <gansinho> iLLf8d: he formated the partition that he installed ubuntu, it used to be a ntfs partition
[08:05] <Consty> <IP_ADDRESS>
[08:06] <troy_> Hi
[08:06] <DarkMageZ> Consty, yeah... known bug. there is a newer version that works that's available in backports
[08:06] <Consty> ohhhh I see
[08:06] <troy_> can someone please tell me how to use the mount command
[08:06] <^Ocean^> i seem to be missing Module.symvers where do i get this file ?  should be in /usr/src/linux
[08:06] <iLLf8d> gansinho, you may wanna setup your partitions again and write them to disk just in case (although the missing keyboard stuffs probably have nothing to do with that)
[08:06] <DarkMageZ> Consty, in the terminal go "wget http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/multiverse/f/flashplugin-nonfree/flashplugin-nonfree_7.0.68~ubuntu2~dapper1_i386.deb" and then "sudo dpkg -i flashplugin"(tab)
[08:06] <troy_> I want to use ndiswrapper and need to get to the driver directory on the cdom
[08:07] <robitaille> Consty,  and added bonus:  you get a flash plugin without known security issues  :)
[08:07] <gansinho> iLLf8d: but he's using the liveCD to install... if he installs via terminal it would output any possible errors? if so, what's the command to start the installation?
[08:07] <mneptok> troy_: the CD should auto-mount when you insert it
[08:07] <troy_> it has on the desktop I
[08:07] <troy_> how do i browse it in terminal
[08:07] <DarkMageZ> Consty, yeah, robitaille is right about that one. that's why the package you installed is broken :P
[08:08] <Consty> DarkMageZ: how come the new one doesn't show up instead then?
[08:08] <troy_> I did it the other day and forgot how i did it
[08:08] <robitaille> Consty,  because the new one is from Edgy....Dapper hasn't been updated for the newest flash
[08:09] <Consty> ohh ok.. this new one does it fix the issue with off sync audio/video?  I know if I switch to OSS instead of ALSA for firefox that it works fine then but firefox becomes unstable then.
[08:09] <DarkMageZ> Consty, because you don't have backports enabled. (tho, technically, there "should" be a package available in multiverse-updates...
[08:09] <troy_> ??
[08:09] <DarkMageZ> Consty, lol no... that's not fixed.
[08:09] <^Ocean^> gah no one knows were i can get Module.symvers
[08:09] <Consty> DarkMageZ: I always thought that backports were for older stuff, not newer stuff
[08:10] <troy_> need help mounting cdrom in gnome terminal
[08:10] <DarkMageZ> Consty, backports are software which are brought from the (edgy) newer version to the (dapper) older
[08:10] <Consty> darkmagez: Oh wow.. I didn't know! :)
[08:11] <hastesaver> troy_, if it's on the desktop, it's already mounted
[08:11] <mneptok> troy_: it's mounted under /media
[08:11] <hastesaver> troy_, go to /media/cdrom (I think) to see it
[08:11] <troy_> how do i browse it
[08:11] <DarkMageZ> Consty, yeah. you'll pick these things up as you go along
[08:11] <pitti> troy_: don't you get a nautilus window for browsing it automatically when you insert it?
[08:11] <troy_> no
[08:12] <pitti> troy_: feel free to file a bug about it (against gnome-volume-manager)
[08:12] <mneptok> troy_: in a temrinal type "nautilus /media" (no quotes)
[08:12] <mneptok> that should get you working for now
[08:12] <Consty> DarkMageZ: The sad part is i've been running ubuntu for a year now! :P
[08:12] <pitti> troy_: you should get an icon on the desktop, though, you can click on that
[08:12] <troy_> oh yeah i get that
[08:12] <hastesaver> Hello! I'm sorry for repeating so frequently, I'll ask one last time:  Is there a way to capture soundcard's output to a file? Windows had programs for this, but I don't want to go back to Windows...
[08:12] <troy_> i want to setup ndiswrapper I need terminal access
[08:13] <pitti> hastesaver: take a look at the 'vsound' package
[08:13] <pitti> hastesaver: that's the general low-level solution; many programs like xmms also have an easier-to-use GUI integration for that
[08:13] <iLLf8d> gansinho, sorry bout that the wife =P uhm installer from live cd I don't recall really I've installed it 3 times in the last week or 2 and I don't remember if I started it from the commandline or the live cd (installed a few others too)
[08:13] <mneptok> troy_: before you try ndiswrapper i would suggest you take an hour or so and learn some terminal commands like cd, ls, sudo, chown, chmod, etc etc
[08:14] <troy_> I did it the other day
[08:14] <mneptok> troy_: no offense, but if you don't know how to find a directory using the temrinal then installing ndiswrapper is going to be very frustrating.
[08:14] <hastesaver> pitti, thanks! Of all the media players in the world, *xmms* would probably have been the last place I'd have looked :)
[08:14] <troy_> mount cdrom1
[08:14] <iLLf8d> gansinho, they're all becoming a blur (gentoo, debian, arch, ubuntu installer cds although the gentoo one looked tasty I must admit)
[08:14] <pitti> hastesaver: mplayer can do it, too
[08:14] <troy_> ive already installed it
[08:15] <Consty> Is it considered dangerous to install updates from backports ?
[08:15] <mneptok> troy_: then what do you need?
[08:15] <troy_> I can nav just cant get drive mounting to work
[08:15] <clearzen> Does anyone know how to use apt-get or aptitude behind a proxy?
[08:15] <gansinho> iLLf8d: ok ^_^ , thanks for the info!
[08:15] <Consty> Or ather not dangerous, but unstable?
[08:15] <mneptok> troy_: once again, the CD is mounted at /media
[08:15] <hastesaver> pitti, really? I don't mean a file that's being played by mplayer, I mean something that's just being played (maybe a flash file in a web browser, etc.)
[08:15] <troy_> install my belkin USB usb adaptor
[08:15] <mneptok> troy_: it's obviously mounted, as you said you can see it on your desktop.
[08:15] <^Ocean^> okay i have linux-headers-2.6.17-10 how do i get the Modules.symvers for it ?
[08:15] <iLLf8d> gansinho, np I have run into trouble with deb installs w/out rewriting my paritions when they've failed in the past so I suspect ubuntu may have similar issues (tho its just a guess)
[08:15] <pitti> hastesaver: yeah, for flash and so on you really need vsound
[08:16] <troy_> ok then how DO I SEE IT
[08:16] <iLLf8d> gansinho, the ubuntu installs I've done came off w/out a hitch once I got a good cd burned
[08:16] <mneptok> troy_: you said the CD is on the desktop. double-click it.
[08:16] <clearzen> Is this update error generated by proxy settings?
[08:16] <clearzen> Err ftp://cipherfunk.org dapper Release.gpg
[08:16] <troy_> troy@ubuntu:~$ mount cdrom1
[08:16] <troy_> mount: can't find cdrom1 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab
[08:16] <troy_> troy@ubuntu:~$ mount media/cdrom1
[08:16] <troy_> mount: can't find media/cdrom1 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab
[08:16] <troy_> troy@ubuntu:~$
[08:16] <iLLf8d> gansinho, good luck =)
[08:16] <Lam_> not really ubuntu related, but what's a good powerful font that says "i mean business"
[08:17] <troy_> h
[08:17] <iLLf8d> terminator font
[08:17] <troy_> ha
[08:17] <iLLf8d> jk heh
[08:17] <gansinho> iLLf8d: thanks, I think that the problem is the CD also
[08:17] <Lam_> lol i wish
[08:17] <ShadeT> clearzen, create /etc/apt/apt.conf
[08:18] <clearzen> please could anyone help me fix my package updater?
[08:18] <ShadeT> In the file have,  "Acquire::http::Proxy "proxy:port";"
[08:18] <clearzen> thanks
[08:19] <clearzen> how can I unset proxy options for apt on the command line?
[08:19] <troy_> got it
[08:19] <troy_> yes!!!
[08:19] <ShadeT> Or well Acquire::http::Proxy "User:Pass@proxy:port";
[08:19] <troy_> command /media/drive
[08:19] <ShadeT> edit /etc/apt/apt.conf
[08:19] <THX-1138> Can a launcher run .sh scripts without confirmation?
[08:22] <UnL0CkER> when usiong a lappywhen using a lappy, do I need lcd drivers in the kernel?
[08:22] <^Ocean^> okay i have linux-headers-2.6.17-10 how do i get the Modules.symvers for it ?
[08:28] <ryan_> does anyone know of a limewire type program that is native to ubuntu
[08:28] <tyler_d> where would I find my KBUILD path? trying to compile????
[08:29] <mneptok> ryan_: GTK-Gnutella
[08:30] <ryan_> thanks
[08:34] <klick> Hey all, can anyone help me get bluetooth support working, I tried to follow a wiki but whenever i do hciconfig, no devices show.  Im using a think pad x41 tablet
[08:35] <Ademan> in KDE how do you allow another user to sudo? (i want to give administrator privileges?)
[08:36] <klick> open up a term
[08:36] <izm99> whenever I reboot my computer, i have to rmmod ehci_hcd before my usb stuff starts working again.  any idea why?
[08:36] <klick> sudo visudo
[08:36] <mneptok> Ademan: sudo useradd -g admin the_user_name
[08:36] <klick> # User privilege specification
[08:36] <klick> under that section add a new user
[08:37] <Ademan> mneptok: there's no GUI for it?
[08:37] <mneptok> Ademan: not one that i use and would know without looking at it.
[08:38] <Ademan> i know the GNOME one, but KDE, kde i do not know
[08:38] <kraut> moin
[08:39] <hastesaver> Ademan, you only have to type it once; just go ahead and type it :-)
[08:40] <Ademan> hastesaver: but the user already exists
[08:40] <ShadeT> Or you can edit the /etc/groups file and place the user in the admin group.
[08:40] <hastesaver> Ademan, it's *called* useradd, but it can do other things too :-) [In this case, it adds the user to the group admin]
[08:41] <rixth> I had a RAID1 array (software), then I reinstalled Dapper. How can I get to my data?
[08:41] <Ademan> hastesaver: oh, ok
[08:41] <mneptok> "useradd - Create a new user or update default new user information"  <-- fromt he useradd manpage
[08:43] <june> hastesaver: "useradd: user *** exists"     *** is the user i called that command on, is it just complaining? or did it fail?
[08:43] <enyc> june: it means atht user already exists
[08:44] <june> enyc: yes, i was able to determine that
[08:44] <^Ocean^> quit
[08:44] <hastesaver> june, mneptok was the one who gave you that command; ask him :)
[08:44] <enyc> june: anymawy... enyc busy... talk later ;-)
[08:45] <june> maybe i'm dyslexic, i'm moving between two computers, was it adduser or useradd?
[08:45] <Ademan> indeed it was useradd
[08:46] <hastesaver> june, useradd. Try  sudo useradd -D -g admin the_user_name #The -D is new
[08:47] <june> hastesaver: where does it save to?
[08:47] <rixth> I had a RAID1 array (software), then I reinstalled Dapper. How can I get to my data?
[08:48] <hastesaver> june, it changes /etc/groups, I think. Anyway, try that command and see what it says, first
[08:48] <june> and if a user belongs to the group admin, does that allow them to sudo?
[08:48] <mneptok> yes
[08:48] <june> hastesaver: uh "says" the same as "useradd --help" :-p
[08:49] <june> well allow me to log out and into my other account, see you on the other side
[08:49] <hastesaver> june, sorry, I didn't understand
[08:49] <hastesaver> june, try "sudo useradd -D -g admin <username>" wha does it say?
[08:53] <dan_> hrm moment of truth
[08:53] <dan_> sudo kate :-p
[08:53] <^Ocean^> does edgy break mercury for any one else ?
[08:54] <dan_> "*** is not in the sudoers file.  This incident will be reported."  damn
[08:54] <klick> whats the best way to get support for all video types in totem, there are soo many plugins in synaptic, and im using edgy so automatix wont work for me
[08:57] <Sktfeelsdapper> Why are people trying edgy?
[08:57] <Sktfeelsdapper> Isn't it just being tested now?
[08:57] <hastesaver> klick,  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats
[08:57] <hastesaver> Sktfeelsdapper, people are impatient. It's human nature :-)
[08:57] <klick> thanks ill check it out
[08:57] <hastesaver> Sktfeelsdapper, as soon as I go back home, I'm upgrading to edgy too :-)
[08:58] <Sktfeelsdapper> It just doesn't make sense.
[08:58] <Sktfeelsdapper> I think Dapper is buggy enough as it is!
[08:58] <hastesaver> Sktfeelsdapper, besides, it's only by "people trying edgy" that it can be tested
[08:58] <hastesaver> Sktfeelsdapper, what's buggy with dapper?
[08:58] <Sktfeelsdapper> One word.  Or I may be wrong
[09:00] <Sktfeelsdapper> i've got a via82xxx and I'm not sure if I've got it step up right, even though I'm completely afraid to do anything to it.
[09:00] <Sktfeelsdapper> "set up"
[09:00] <DarkMageZ> hastesaver, it's the codename. it will be called firefox2 when launched
[09:01] <hastesaver> Sktfeelsdapper, sound worked fine for me out-of-the-box. So it's probably "hardware support" that's buggy, and that will always remain so. There is only so much linux developers can reverse-engineer if the hardware mfrs don't release drivers for linux (or even specs on what their hardware does)
[09:01] <hondadarrell> Why could my Gnome Terminal keep closing before loading?
[09:02] <THX-1138> hondadarrel - are you starting it form a launcher you created?
[09:02] <Sktfeelsdapper> Well no my sound works fine, even though I had to set it up all backwords to get it to work with 2 things at once.
[09:02] <Sktfeelsdapper> All my main sound=esd my firefox alsa
[09:03] <Lam_> !pinh
[09:03] <Lam_> !ping
[09:03] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pinh - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:03] <ubotu> ping: connection timeout
[09:03] <hastesaver> Sktfeelsdapper, who knows? maybe people are trying edgy because this thing is fixed in edgy? ;-)
[09:03] <hondadarrell> THX-1138, no. only from the menu panel
[09:04] <Sktfeelsdapper> I would hope so.
[09:04] <Sktfeelsdapper> I don't mean to sound mean or anything but man.
[09:04] <THX-1138> hondadarrel - right click the icon properties - is the box ru in terminal checked?
[09:05] <Sktfeelsdapper> It's a giant pain in the rear!
[09:06] <whitedeth> When are they releasing headers for 2.6.15-27??
[09:06] <THX-1138> hondadarrel - ctrl+alt+f2 then type "alias" ENTER
[09:06] <ScreaminIke> i just accidentally created a really long string for my "keyring"... and i forgot it... is there some way to simply remove the entry so that my keyring resets?
[09:07] <whitedeth> I cant install the nvidia beta drivers because there's no headers for 2.6.15-27 :(
[09:08] <Janchi> whitedeth, did you try to install them using synaptic?
[09:08] <whitedeth> janchi: No.
[09:08] <whitedeth> janchi: Through console.
[09:09] <whitedeth> err..terminal.
[09:09] <whitedeth> it says they dont exist.
[09:10] <^Ocean^> anyone else's flash break with edgy ?
[09:10] <Janchi> whitedeth, weird. If the kernel exists, the headers must exist as well. I am not behind my Ubuntu box, but I installed them to use with VMware
[09:11] <THX-1138> xcompmgr - easy transparency , drop shadows. just plain fun.
[09:11] <Janchi> Could be something missing in the sourceslist
[09:12] <whitedeth> I've got two sources with the same packages in there.
[09:12] <whitedeth> neither have it.
[09:12] <ScreaminIke> anyone? i mean... how do i reset the gnome keyring?
[09:12] <Janchi> whitedeth, you have main universe multiverse restricted?
[09:12] <whitedeth> actually, good question.
[09:13] <whitedeth> I dont think I do.
[09:13] <whitedeth> I shall add :)
[09:13] <Janchi> whitedeth, just a hunch :-)
[09:15] <CheekyBoinc> linux-images are in Base repos!  http://packages.ubuntulinux.org/cgi-bin/search_packages.pl?keywords=Linux-image-2.6.15-27&searchon=names&subword=1&version=dapper&release=all
[09:16] <CheekyBoinc> Headers:  http://packages.ubuntulinux.org/cgi-bin/search_packages.pl?keywords=Linux-headers-2.6.15-27&searchon=names&subword=1&version=dapper&release=all
[09:16] <ryan_> how do i delete a file from the terminal
[09:17] <ChaosFan> rm
[09:18] <ryan_> thank....what about a directory
[09:18] <wickedpuppy> same ...
[09:18] <wickedpuppy> rmdir or rm -rf
[09:18] <holycow> rm -rf
[09:18] <Unimatrix9> and with rm there is no waste bin, so its gone, history
[09:18] <THX-1138> recurse force
[09:20] <whitedeth> janchi: E: Couldn't find package linux-dri-modules-2.6.15-27-386
[09:20] <whitedeth> :(
[09:21] <THX-1138> the penguin sleuth kit might find it but gotta be really really nerdy to use
[09:21] <mempf> why are you looking for the dri-modules
[09:21] <mempf> i thought you needed the headers
[09:22] <whitedeth> its the modules that wont install.
[09:22] <fuffal0> if i have two 200g hard drives that i want to use for storage, and i'm worried about losing my data, should i run them as a raid1, or should i simply run a cron job every night that bags hd1 to hd2?
[09:22] <whitedeth> that is why it wont let me install the drivers.
[09:22] <klick> Can totem play FLV files or do you have to convert them first?
[09:22] <cpk1> yahoo, iwconfig gave me a seg fault...
[09:22] <mempf> i need to know generlly ho to play flv
[09:23] <mempf> the nvidia drivers dont need the dri-modules
[09:23] <whitedeth> then why else arent they installing?
[09:23] <whitedeth> thats the ONLY thing that isnt installed.
[09:24] <mempf> you have linux-headers?
[09:25] <fuffal0> if i want to dualboot windows/ubuntu, do i have to do the windows install first, or can i do the ubuntu install first
[09:25] <whitedeth> yes, im sure I did those last night when you asked me to.
[09:25] <mempf> using this command?
[09:25] <mempf> apt-get install linux-headers-`uname- r`
[09:25] <Unimatrix9> it would be easier to first install windows
[09:25] <whitedeth> yes
[09:26] <Unimatrix9> as the window installer overwrites the mbr without questions
[09:26] <whitedeth> wait
[09:26] <whitedeth> lol you spelt it wrong again
[09:26] <Unimatrix9> and ubuntu will setup dual , if you choose it on install
[09:26] <mempf> i did?
[09:26] <mempf> oh
[09:26] <THX-1138> The only way to install windows w/o it doing that is with norton ghost. a disk image application.
[09:26] <mempf> so i did
[09:26] <whitedeth> yeah, uname -r, not uname- r.
[09:26] <whitedeth> heh
[09:27] <whitedeth> okay, getting it now.
[09:27] <grub_booter> mempf: flv playback should work with ffplay from ffmpeg...
[09:27] <whitedeth> wow I swear I thought I had done those.
[09:27] <SpComb> fuffal0: and for the hard drives, RAID1 is best. The copying happens in real-time, which generally means that a) you won't notice it b) there isn't a potentially loss of 23.999 hours of data
[09:28] <fuffal0> spcomb, but software raid1 has a history of copying over corrupted data, doesn't it?
[09:28] <fuffal0> ie: one drive goes bad but the second one keeps copying the bad data
[09:29] <daurnimator> ok
[09:29] <daurnimator> my sound isn't working
[09:29] <daurnimator> and !sound doesn't help
[09:30] <SpComb> fuffal0: never heard of that, but it should only write the data that you give to it to disk
[09:31] <daurnimator> hello?
[09:32] <Unimatrix9> could do an dmesg on command line ( shell-console) and see if your soundcard shows up there
[09:32] <Unimatrix9> its also nice to know what kind of card it is..
[09:33] <Unimatrix9> if nothing works, you could consider to buy an cheap soundcard , pci that is supported...
[09:33] <daurnimator> it shows up
[09:34] <mooseman089> hey
[09:34] <Unimatrix9> as what?
[09:34] <yahya> Is there a way to get a list of files apt-get update will download? I want to download them on a different machine where I have unlimitied bandwidth
[09:34] <daurnimator> well
[09:34] <daurnimator> the one i want is:
[09:34] <daurnimator> card 1: V8237 [VIA 8237] , device 0: VIA 8237 [VIA 8237]
[09:34] <daurnimator>   Subdevices: 4/4
[09:34] <hondadarrell> thx-1138, ctrl + alt + f2 crashed my computer
[09:34] <daurnimator>   Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
[09:34] <daurnimator>   Subdevice #1: subdevice #1
[09:34] <johnsie> Hi... is the a terminal command to get my cpu info?
[09:34] <Unimatrix9> thats an onboard soundcard right?
[09:34] <daurnimator>   Subdevice #2: subdevice #2
[09:35] <daurnimator>   Subdevice #3: subdevice #3
[09:35] <daurnimator> card 1: V8237 [VIA 8237] , device 1: VIA 8237 [VIA 8237]
[09:35] <yahya> johnsie: cat /proc/cpuinfo
[09:35] <mooseman089> does anybody know if there is a floppy to bootstrap a ubuntu disc because i have a old mobo that only supports boot from floppy or hard drive
[09:35] <daxxar> johnsie, cat /proc/cpuinfo
[09:35] <daurnimator>   Subdevices: 1/1
[09:35] <daurnimator>   Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
[09:35] <daurnimator> yes
[09:35] <daurnimator> it used to work
[09:35] <johnsie> thanks :-)
[09:35] <daurnimator> then i switched to kubuntu (from normal ubuntu) and it stopped
[09:35] <daxxar> daurnimator, NOPASTE / PASTEBIN
[09:35] <Unimatrix9> daxxar dont complain just help...:)
[09:36] <daxxar> Unimatrix9, it becomes difficult to help others when the flow is interrupted by ~7 lines of "crap".
[09:36] <daxxar> Anyway, never mind.
[09:36] <daurnimator> daxxar: no one else was talking at the time
[09:36] <mooseman089> can anybody help me?
[09:37] <daxxar> daurnimator, except johnsie and mooseman089, of course.
[09:37] <Unimatrix9> i think ( but could be wrong ) that kubuntu is using an different sound system..
[09:37] <daurnimator> johnsie: talked after...
[09:38] <Unimatrix9> so go to control centre ( but i am not familiar with kubuntu ) and set the right soundsystem
[09:38] <daxxar> daurnimator, only from your POV. The IRC-server throttles your traffic.
[09:38] <Chadwick|359> is there an actual edgy chan?
[09:38] <johnsie> #uubuntu+1
[09:38] <daurnimator> daxxar: 20 seconds later...
[09:38] <Chadwick|359> ty
[09:38] <daurnimator> anyway, can you help me out?
[09:38] <Unimatrix9> or check with the kubuntu channel
[09:39] <hondadarrell> thx-1138, ctrl + alt + f2 went to a black screen.
[09:40] <yigal> hi - who can help me with ICQ installing on Ubuntu?
[09:40] <johnsie> is there a terminal command for information about memory?
[09:40] <Healot> free
[09:40] <johnsie> thanks :-)
[09:40] <afrosheen> yigal, you can use Gaim or Trillian or anything else
[09:40] <mooseman089> could i install ubuntu on a hard drive then put the drive in the non cd bootable computer?
[09:41] <daxxar> mooseman089, you might have to install Debian via a floppy, then 'convert'.
[09:41] <mooseman089> where i could i find that?
[09:41] <johnsie> yes mooseman
[09:41] <daxxar> mooseman089, theoretically that should work, atleast if they have the same architecture.
[09:41] <yigal> GAIM is not good for my target. The PC goes to a youth club where registering account is not a good idea. I need "qick usage"
[09:41] <daxxar> mooseman089, i.e. if they're both x86 (non-64bit, intel / amd CPUs), it should work okay.
[09:41] <mooseman089> ok ill do that if i cant find any floppy that cant boot the cd
[09:42] <afrosheen> yigal, there will be account setups regardless
[09:42] <eck> does anyone know how to find the uuid of a swap partition?
[09:42] <deep__> !network
[09:42] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about network - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:42] <johnsie> mooseman089: you might need to do sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg on the other machine though
[09:42] <deep__> umm
[09:42] <yigal> not with XP for example... are you saying ICQ cant work on Ubuntu same why as with XP?
[09:42] <mooseman089> well the box i put it on will on need a text interface its a 75mhz packard bell
[09:43] <deep__> Hey, does anyone know anything about the serverinstall of ubuntu?
[09:43] <afrosheen> yigal, http://www.icq.com/download/icq2go/ is probably what you'd prefer
[09:43] <mneptok> mooseman089: i'd use DSL for that machine if i were you.
[09:43] <daxxar> deep__, what, in particular? I have a server running it. :)
[09:43] <afrosheen> yigal, it's java-based and zero install
[09:43] <mooseman089> do you know if dsl has a wget or some alternative to download files
[09:43] <mooseman089> my goal is to just run teh command line boinc on the box 24/7
[09:44] <eck> mooseman089: i'm sure dsl has wget
[09:44] <deep__> daxxar, i was wondering what firewall its using?
[09:44] <johnsie> yigal, you could try using wine to install it but really you'd be better off getting a native Linux version and not a windows XP version
[09:44] <daxxar> deep__, that I wouldn't know. It's behind another firewall here, never messed with it.
[09:44] <mneptok> mooseman089: http://www.damnsmalllinux.org/download.html
[09:44] <Unimatrix9> daurnimator
[09:45] <daxxar> deep__, I would guess it just uses iptables, and you can use various frontends/guis to manage it.
[09:45] <eck> deep__: i think all ubuntu has iptables but no default rules
[09:45] <daurnimator> ?
[09:45] <Unimatrix9> ttp://noiesmo.dnsalias.net/article.php?story=20060618164650957
[09:45] <yigal> Thanks guys - and now to the tough question - what about msn messenger?
[09:45] <daxxar> deep__, read something about 'firestarter' for a GUI, but I don't use X.
[09:45] <Unimatrix9> here is an read about your problem
[09:45] <mooseman089> ok with dsl do they have a floppy verison or something to boot to cd?
[09:45] <probugh> sorry guys, i have a question; i want to install the latest version of dapper ubuntu to a brand new empty hdd.i put the cd into the dvd tray,it boots, but when it comes to checking the drivers it gets stuck...any ideas?
[09:45] <mneptok> mooseman089: and i'm sure DSL will run curl or wget. NetBSD on my Mac Quadra 605 (68040@25Mhz) has curl and wget. ;)
[09:45] <daxxar> yigal, you have 'aMSN'. It's a pure MSN-client for Linux.
[09:45] <deep__> daxxar, "The Ubuntu Server has no open ports after the installation", the site sais. ^^
[09:45] <johnsie> which Irc client makes it easy to do someones_name: message?
[09:45] <deep__> daxxar, and i wont be usint X
[09:45] <afrosheen> yigal, again, there is a web-based msn client
[09:45] <eck> if you really are getting enough traffic that you need a firewall you probably want a hardware router :-P
[09:45] <deep__> daxxar, i want to control everything by ssh. :)
[09:45] <eck> err hardware firewall
[09:46] <daxxar> deep__, same here. ;-)
[09:46] <mooseman089> ok i found the floppy image....
[09:46] <daxxar> deep__, might've been an installation-choice, but I have no iptables-policies.
[09:46] <daurnimator> uh
[09:47] <johnsie> what irc client do people here use?
[09:47] <daxxar> johnsie, most irc-clients do that. Usually you just press 'tab' after a few characters, i.e. 'jo<tab>' = johnsie. :-)
[09:47] <troy_> Hi
[09:47] <daxxar> johnsie, I'm using irssi, which has that feature. (it usually adds : too, but I removed that)
[09:47] <johnsie> daxxar, cool
[09:47] <daxxar> irssi is text-based. For a desktop-machine, you might want X-Chat
[09:47] <deep__> daxxar, ah, okay. But i want a firewall, an easy firewall (aka not iptables), you know anyone? :)
[09:48] <troy_> im trying to install a driver and it says 2.6.13 and higher kernels are supported.
[09:48] <johnsie> thanks :-)
[09:48] <daxxar> deep__, sorry, I use init-scripts w/ iptables-rules, sorry. :-)
[09:48] <troy_> i have 2.6.12-9-386
[09:48] <daxxar> johnsie, np. ;-)
[09:48] <troy_> do i have to upgrade
[09:48] <deep__> troy_, "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" will upgrade your kernel
[09:48] <troy_> thats
[09:49] <troy_> how much MB for download
[09:49] <deep__> daxxar, okay. :)
[09:49] <deep__> troy_, umm, not to many. a kernel isnt so very big.
[09:49] <mneptok> uhhhh
[09:49] <troy_> thanks
[09:49] <mneptok> do NOT do a dist-upgrade. just "upgrade" will get you a new kernel.
[09:49] <daxxar> deep__, you probably want something web-based, I haven't seen a curses- or CLI-based UI for iptables.
[09:50] <afrosheen> johnsie, xchat
[09:50] <probugh> any help please?
[09:50] <deep__> mneptok, it will? O.O
[09:50] <mneptok> deep__: yes
[09:50] <TheGateKeeper> !iptables
[09:50] <ubotu> Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed with iptables (in the command line) or firestarter (gui, can also setup connection sharing)
[09:50] <afrosheen> daxxar, isn't firestarter an iptables frontend?
[09:50] <guillem101> how do I enable php in apache2? I've packages installed , and I have linked the php5.load from mods-avail to mods-enabled
[09:50] <afrosheen> yeahhh
[09:50] <daxxar> afrosheen, firestarter is GUI, isn't it?
[09:50] <deep__> daxxar, I can probably learn iptables or something. :P
[09:51] <TheGateKeeper> daxxar: yep
[09:51] <mneptok> dist-upgrade is used to move between releases (e.g. Dapper to Edgy). "upgrade" is used to get new versions of stuff for your current release.
[09:51] <b_e_n_z> shorewall is the best frontend to iptables IMO
[09:51] <daxxar> deep__, you could look at shorewall (http://www.shorewall.net) or fireHOL (http://firehol.sourceforge.net/) - but I have no prior experience with either
[09:51] <deep__> Aah, thanx :D
[09:51] <afrosheen> webmin might have some easy-to-use iptables stuff in it also
[09:52] <troy_> I have to stop the upgrade
[09:52] <daxxar> I thought webmin was a huge, gaping security-hole?
[09:52] <troy_> limit of 400 MB on my BB
[09:52] <glatzor> guillem101: "sudo apt-get install libapache2-mod-php5" should be sufficient
[09:52] <daxxar> troy_, ^C
[09:52] <afrosheen> daxxar, since when...by default on most distros it'll only accept https traffic
[09:52] <bayzider> hey i installed wine but i have no idea how to use it can some one help.
[09:52] <troy_> so only type that
[09:53] <bayzider> !wine
[09:53] <afrosheen> bayzider, man wine
[09:53] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[09:53] <daxxar> afrosheen, I have no first-hand-experience, I just recall some debian-channel harassing it for being insecure. ;-)
[09:53] <daxxar> troy_, press control + C to 'break' it.
[09:53] <afrosheen> daxxar, that sounds about right..if it's helpful it must be insecure :)
[09:53] <troy_> done
[09:53] <daxxar> afrosheen, hehe ;-)
[09:53] <Madpilot> daxxar, webmin isn't supported anymore in either Debian or Ubuntu - apparently because of the security issues
[09:53] <philip> what file do I edit for the session startup?
[09:53] <Madpilot> !webmin
[09:53] <ubotu> webmin is no longer supported in Debian and Ubuntu. Please avoid using it.
[09:53] <daxxar> Madpilot, aha. :-)
[09:53] <afrosheen> !whatever
[09:53] <afrosheen> ;)
[09:53] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about whatever - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:54] <guillem101> glatzor, I've the package already installed :-(. I've upgraded from hoary... and I used to have php4 there... so perhaps the config is wrong... any suggestions?
[09:55] <probugh> new wannabe ubunter with problem installing the latest version of dapper ubuntu to a brand new empty hdd.i put the cd into the dvd tray,it boots, but when it comes to checking the drivers it gets stuck...any ideas?
[09:55] <troy_> should i type sudo apt-get install libapache2-mod
[09:55] <guillem101> glatzor, strange, "php5" package was not installed... I'm on it...
[09:56] <afrosheen> probugh, lemme guess, sata hd?
[09:56] <Arcad3> probugh:the HDD is properly connected?
[09:56] <Healot> !find php5
[09:56] <ubotu> Found: php5-clamavlib, php5-imap, php5-interbase, php5-json, php5-mapscript (and 24 others)
[09:57] <Arcad3> !find cedega
[09:57] <ubotu> Package/file cedega does not exist in dapper
[09:57] <tapas> how do i boot the ubuntu live cd without X?
[09:57] <tapas> [it freezes as my thinkpad t21 needs a special setup]
[09:57] <probugh> no, ide one.i think properly connected, mastered as single
[09:58] <^Ocean^> does edgy have font problems ? java apps, dont seem to render properly, and flash pages dont seem to work 100% either
[09:58] <Madpilot> ^Ocean^, #ubuntu+1 for edgy
[09:58] <^Ocean^> i wish osme one was awake there lol
[09:59] <Arcad3> !find tuxgames
[09:59] <glatzor> tapas: download the alternate installer
[09:59] <guillem101> glatzor, no luck. Maybe I can uninstall apache2, php5 and apache2-mod-php5 and reinstall them...
[09:59] <ubotu> Package/file tuxgames does not exist in dapper
[09:59] <tapas> glatzor: oh sorry forgot to mention i have the live cd
[09:59] <Alex232> Hello all!
[10:00] <lukas_> re *
[10:00] <Arcad3> !ubuntu instalation
[10:00] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ubuntu instalation - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:00] <glatzor> tapas: Yes, that is why I recommend you to download the alternate installer instead :)
[10:00] <glatzor> there is no text only mode on the desktop cd
[10:00] <tapas> glatzor: ok,but just for the sake of it. there's no way to boot the live cd without X?
[10:00] <ucordes> how can i switch between 386 and 686?
[10:00] <tapas> s/./:/
[10:01] <ucordes> or better said how can i upgrad to 686
[10:01] <Alex232> Is there only LiveCD for Ubuntu 5.10 (Breezy)? I've found only this one in the download directory on Ubuntu.com
[10:02] <mneptok> ucordes: "sudo apt-get install linux-686"
[10:02] <cafuego> Alex232: 6.06 has a single CD which is both install+live.
[10:02] <glatzor> tapas: right. it's a desktop cd - a grphical desktop.
[10:02] <ucordes> mneptok: don't i have to remove 386 then?
[10:02] <mneptok> ucordes: only if you want to, or to save space
[10:02] <ucordes> mneptok: ok. what are the differences between the two?
[10:03] <glatzor> cafuego: no. the desktop cd (live) includes an installer. but there is still the alternative text only installer cd
[10:03] <Alex232> cafuego: so, can I just insert my Desctop CD and load Ubuntu?
[10:03] <glatzor> ucordes: the difference between 386 and 686 isn't worth the work. you won't even find optimized kernels in edgy.
[10:03] <mneptok> ucordes: the 686 version has a kernel with 686-specific instructions compiled in. and thus usually gives vastly better performance on PII and greater
[10:04] <glatzor> Alex232: right. that is the idea.
[10:04] <Alex232> waw! Great!
[10:04] <mneptok> glatzor: not correct. try using FFMPEG through GStreamer under a 386 and 686 kernel, and watch the difference.
[10:04] <ucordes> mneptok: ok this sounds like it was worth upgrading
[10:04] <Arcad3> !firefox flashplugin
[10:04] <ubotu> firefox: lightweight web browser based on Mozilla. In component main, is optional. Version 1.5.dfsg+<IP_ADDRESS>-ubuntu0.6.06 (dapper), package size 7739 kB, installed size 22928 kB
[10:04] <glatzor> mneptok: i don't own a x86.
[10:04] <mneptok> ucordes: for the 15 seconds of actual work, yes.
[10:05] <tapas> glatzor: well, i actually don't want to install to hd yet. i just need to make an adjustment to xorg.conf before x is started
[10:05] <tapas> glatzor: so there's no way to achieve this with the ubuntu live cd?
[10:05] <Arcad3> !find firefox flashplugin
[10:05] <ubotu> Found: firefox-themes-ubuntu, mozilla-firefox-locale-ar, mozilla-firefox-locale-bg-bg, mozilla-firefox-locale-bn-bd, mozilla-firefox-locale-bn-in (and 53 others)
[10:05] <glatzor> tapas:  you don't need a cd for this.
[10:05] <ucordes> mneptok: you said from pII and better. i'm using amd. does it still affect my performance positively?
[10:05] <mneptok> Arcad3: flashplugin-nonfree is what you're after
[10:05] <tapas> glatzor: ??
[10:05] <glatzor> tapas: just choose "recovery mode" in the boot loader
[10:05] <mneptok> ucordes: what kind of AMD?
[10:05] <Arcad3> its buggy
[10:05] <tapas> glatzor: ah ok
[10:06] <ucordes> mneptok: turion 64
[10:06] <tapas> glatzor: i neer said i needed another cd for this :)
[10:06] <mneptok> ucordes: then you want k7, not 686
[10:06] <whitedeth> what's the command in console to close the GDM?
[10:06] <glatzor> tapas: when you start your computer there is a message "press ESC to see the grub menu" or something like this
[10:06] <Alex232> And as I was said, there are some partitioning tools on LiveCD? could you please tell me where I can find them? (I'm new to Ubuntu)
[10:06] <tapas> glatzor: ok, thanks for the hint.. will try it
[10:06] <tapas> glatzor: the live cd displays a menu on boot
[10:06] <tapas> ok will
[10:06] <tapas> do
[10:06] <ucordes> mneptok: oh i see. but i don't use the 64 bit dapper.
[10:06] <whitedeth> anyone?
[10:06] <ucordes> mneptok: does this make a difference?
[10:07] <glatzor> tapas: you have already isntalled Ubuntu on your harddisk?
[10:07] <tapas> glatzor: nope. i still run debian
[10:07] <factotum> ugh, im thinking of building a new system (board, proc, vidcard anyways). But I dont know where to start these days. Last time I built a system was about 5 years ago
[10:07] <mneptok> ucordes: yes.
[10:07] <mneptok> ucordes: 3DNow! instructions, etc etc
[10:07] <tapas> glatzor: i just want to boot the live cd and need to make an adjustment to xorg.conf because in the default config it freezes my t21 rock solid
[10:07] <factotum> amd or intel, dual core? 64-bit? then its like what board? bleh
[10:08] <glatzor> tapas: also in "safe gaphic mode"?
[10:08] <tapas> glick: yes
[10:08] <tapas> oops
[10:08] <tapas> glatzor: yes
[10:08] <factotum> can i get a decent graphics card for about $100-$150?
[10:08] <glatzor> tapas: hm. you could try to use the boot option "single"
[10:08] <Genscher> hey :)
[10:08] <glatzor> tapas: but I don't know if it works
[10:09] <Genscher> i have a simple question
[10:09] <Genscher> :)
[10:09] <tapas> glatzor: aaah. single.. ok. i tried 1 (like to tell init to use runlevel 1), but as this uses upstat it didn't seem to work
[10:09] <Alex232> as I was said, there are some partitioning tools on LiveCD. Could you please tell me where I can find them? (I'm new to Ubuntu)
[10:09] <glatzor> Genscher: sorry, we only care about the complex ones :)
[10:09] <glatzor> tapas: single user mode :)
[10:09] <LoRe> i'm running edgy-eft, on every kernel-upgrade the following happens:
[10:09] <LoRe> update-initramfs: Generating /boot/initrd.img-2.6.17-10-386
[10:09] <LoRe> Command failed
[10:09] <ucordes> mneptok: so to get to the point. i currently have installed linux-386. now that you told me i should usually select k7 i'm a bit confused. and what about linux-686 now?
[10:09] <Genscher> i installed acroread as you said :) the problem is that ubuntu doesn't stop to use the "fileviewer" to open PDF files. how can i change that behaviour?
[10:09] <Genscher> glatzor: hehe
[10:09] <Genscher> :)
[10:09] <glatzor> Alex232: in the system -> administration menu
[10:09] <stu_> !paste
[10:09] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[10:09] <tapas> factotum: sure. depends on what you want to do with the gfx card
[10:10] <glatzor> Alex232: or in the installer
[10:10] <yango> where does gnome store autogenerated cd images?
[10:10] <tapas> glatzor: ok, thankjs for your help.. brb
[10:10] <Alex232> glatzor: thank you
[10:10] <glatzor> tapas: good luck
[10:10] <stu_> could someone look at this for me please: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25481/
[10:10] <Madpilot> Genscher, right-click on a PDF, choose Properties, and look at the Open With... tab
[10:10] <factotum> tapas: just something to get my by on the more recent games
[10:10] <mneptok> ucordes: you want to run "sudo apt-get install linux-k7"
[10:10] <ucordes> mneptok: i just want to point out which kernel fits best to my system
[10:10] <Genscher> Madpilot
[10:10] <factotum> dont need top of the line or best of the best
[10:10] <Genscher> thank you
[10:10] <Genscher> :)
[10:11] <mneptok> ucordes: that should get you a K7 kernel and restricted modules
[10:11] <yango> I mean, when you rightclick on a CD and select create copy... it automatically creates an image, then prompts you for the new CD, etc. where is the image located?
[10:11] <factotum> dont need all settings on high n whatnot
[10:11] <ucordes> mneptok: so i did a mistake using the linux-386 before?
[10:11] <glatzor> yango: I would guess somewhere beneath /tmp
[10:11] <mneptok> ucordes: that's the default.
[10:11] <yango> glatzor, so guess I ... should it be a .iso?
[10:11] <ucordes> mneptok: i see. k-7 is better for me than 686? :-)
[10:12] <factotum> i dunno i have a geforce like 5200 or 5500 cant remember which, 256meg. Got it a while ago
[10:12] <mneptok> ucordes: with an AMD64, certainly.
[10:12] <yango> but find /tmp/ -name '*iso' gives no result
[10:12] <yango> should I ask on #gnome?
[10:12] <ucordes> mneptok: but as i said i don't even have the 64bit system installed
[10:12] <factotum> i can crank it up on neverwinter nights lol, thats about it though
[10:12] <mneptok> ucordes: doesn;t matter
[10:12] <noner> Hello, how do you install VLC player on Ubuntu?
[10:13] <mneptok> ucordes: trust me. the K7 kernel is what you're after.
[10:13] <Genscher> apt-get install vlc
[10:13] <narma> hello, I'm using a external hard drive on my debian testing for a while. Now I want to plug it into my laptop with ubuntu 6.06.1. it's ok but into a shell when I do a 'ls' or something else I have lots of caracters that are written as '?'. (I have french caracters)
[10:13] <Janchi> noner, apt-get install vlc maybe
[10:13] <ucordes> mneptok: :D ok thanks a lot for this piece of information
[10:13] <glatzor> yango: or a large file: find /tmp -size +500M
[10:13] <narma> into my debin $LANG=fr_FR@UTF8 and debian has fr_FR@euros
[10:13] <hondadarrell> my terminal closes before it loads.
[10:13] <narma> is it this variable or something that can solve my problem ?
[10:14] <ucordes> mneptok: i have one more question: what is linux-k7-smp?
[10:14] <glatzor> narma: "dpkg-reconfigure locales" and "vi /etc/exports"
[10:14] <mneptok> ucordes: for multi-cores and SMP machines
[10:15] <ucordes> ok
[10:15] <glatzor> ucordes: it is an obsolete package that helps to migrate from older Ubuntu versions
[10:15] <mneptok> glatzor: huh?
[10:15] <glatzor> ucordes: the current kernels detect a multi processor system during boot time
[10:16] <KenSentMe> I had totem-firefox-plugin installed, after that i installed mozilla-mplayer, but i removed that package. Now the totem plugin doesn't work anymore in firefox. I reinstalled it, but it wont work. Anyone know why>
[10:16] <mneptok> glatzor: the linux-$arch-smp kernel packages are still necessary. they provide the vector for SMP aware kernel delivery.
[10:16] <narma> thank you glatzor
[10:16] <glatzor> mneptok: vector?
[10:17] <narma> glatzor, I have no /etc/exports file into my ubuntu...
[10:17] <glatzor> narma: sorry it is /etc/environment
[10:17] <glatzor> etc exports is for nfs server :)
[10:17] <glatzor> i have to leave
[10:17] <mneptok> glatzor: without linux-$arch-smp, what package would SMP users have installed to ensure their kernel updates are SMP aware kernels?
[10:19] <Arcad3> i have a dumb question who can answer me?
[10:19] <ikonia> you have to ask it first
[10:19] <ikonia> before we know who can answer it
[10:19] <mneptok> or was that the dumb question?
[10:19] <Sktfeelsdapper> how do you get into your esound and asound configs?
[10:19] <Sktfeelsdapper> !asound
[10:19] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about asound - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:19] <Arcad3> that was the dumb Q
[10:19] <Sktfeelsdapper> !esd
[10:19] <ubotu> esd is the enlightened sound deamon. It's deprecated, use !alsa instead
[10:20] <Sktfeelsdapper> !alsa
[10:20] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure alsa is selected by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (Alsa Mixer). If you are still having problems with sound, then look at http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems
[10:20] <Sktfeelsdapper> !oss
[10:21] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about oss - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:21] <Sktfeelsdapper> does that stand for obsolete sound system =D
[10:21] <LookTJ> yes
[10:22] <Arcad3> how can i  see what files are on a site?
[10:22] <ikonia> a site ?
[10:22] <ikonia> like a web site ?
[10:22] <Arcad3> yes
[10:22] <narma> can ubuntu use local fr_FR@euro. When I do dpkg-reconfigure locales only UTF8 locales are genreted
[10:22] <ikonia> errrr how is that anything to do with ubuntu
[10:22] <ikonia> you can view the source
[10:22] <ikonia> download the whole site
[10:22] <ikonia> its up to you
[10:23] <Arcad3> how
[10:23] <ikonia> but unless you can gain access to the file system of the site
[10:23] <ikonia> how what ?
[10:23] <Arcad3> thats hacking
[10:23] <ikonia> thats not hacking ???
[10:23] <Arcad3> how to download the whole site?
[10:23] <afrosheen> uhm who owns the site in question
[10:24] <ikonia> you can only download what is in the source code/links
[10:24] <ikonia> you can't download hidden files
[10:24] <ikonia> soemthing like wget works fine
[10:24] <Arcad3> www.example.com/file.tgz
[10:24] <afrosheen> haha I bet he's trying to leech an entire porn site
[10:24] <LookTJ> i hate porn
[10:24] <ikonia> Arcad3 thats not a real site
[10:24] <LookTJ> nasty stuff
[10:24] <Arcad3> ican download butn i dont know what the filename is
[10:24] <ikonia> please give me the name of the site you want
[10:24] <Arcad3> its an example
[10:24] <afrosheen> mm hmm
[10:25] <yango> which frontend do you recommend for copying CD's when gnome's default system creates wrong ISO's?
[10:25] <Arcad3> www.jeanza.uv.ro
[10:25] <ikonia> sorry, I don't trust what your asking
[10:25] <Arcad3> i forgot the password:D
[10:25] <afrosheen> that gives a 404
[10:25] <yango> X-CD-Roast seems too audio based, but I'm tryibng to copy a data CD
[10:25] <ikonia> yango I've been impressed with gnome's nautalius burning
[10:25] <Arcad3> jeandza.uv.ro
[10:25] <afrosheen> yango: k3b is a champion of burning
[10:26] <yango> ikonia, I was too, until now, when the iso it creates is unmountable
[10:26] <tapas> afrosheen: yep
[10:26] <ikonia> yango I've never seen that personally
[10:26] <yango> ikonia, me neither, until 5 minutes ago :-)
[10:26] <afrosheen> actually I think k3b is the best burning software on any platform, I haven't found anything better
[10:27] <ikonia> afrosheen others have said that too
[10:27] <ikonia> I'm not a fan personally
[10:27] <afrosheen> different strokes
[10:27] <Shish> speaking of CDs, anyone know how to force one to eject? It looks like there was a burn error, and now it's got half way through mounting and locked up :-/
[10:27] <ikonia> exactly
[10:27] <afrosheen> Shish, as root, eject
[10:27] <afrosheen> if that doesn't work, it's hosed, get a paperclip
[10:28] <Arcad3> afrosheen:www.jeandza.uv.ro i want to know how can i view the.tgz files on it
[10:28] <Arcad3> or others
[10:28] <ikonia> Arcad3 please be quiet about that
[10:28] <Shish> "eject" locks up too :P I had thought of the paperclip method, but lack one :-/
[10:28] <Arcad3> just view them
[10:29] <ikonia> Arcad3 stop asking
[10:29] <afrosheen> Arcad3, the engrish on that site is funny
[10:29] <ikonia> that has nothing to do with unbutu
[10:29] <LookTJ> lol
[10:29] <Arcad3> english?
[10:29] <afrosheen> Arcad3, well, it's not exactly english, so we call it engrish
[10:29] <afrosheen> i.e. bad translation
[10:30] <mneptok> "engromana"
[10:30] <Arcad3> the intro is made from a guy in BE
[10:30] <afrosheen> like A-1 Lucky Hot Dog Processor Attachment Neon Ultimate
[10:30] <where> what is the command in bash to format an usb stick?
[10:30] <mneptok> afrosheen: i bought one of those. i hated the itching, but didn't mind the swelling.
[10:30] <afrosheen> lol
[10:31] <afrosheen> that's going on bash.org
[10:31] <mneptok> oh dear.
[10:32] <Arcad3> c'mon how an i get my files back?
[10:32] <afrosheen> well it's about 4 hours past my bedtime, I'm out..and arcad3, I suggest you make a trip to the hosting service and ask for a CD
[10:32] <ikonia> Arcad3 PLEASE stop asking
[10:32] <Arcad3> what time is in ur location
[10:32] <Arcad3> ??
[10:32] <ikonia> it has nothing to do with unbuntu
[10:32] <Arcad3> i use ubuntu
[10:32] <Arcad3> :P
[10:33] <ikonia> mail the site owner and ask him to refresh your password
[10:33] <Arcad3> oke thanks
[10:33] <Arcad3> i'm the owner
[10:33] <Jax-S179> haha
[10:33] <ikonia> then login to the site file system
[10:34] <Arcad3> any HAKERS irc channnels on  freenode?
[10:34] <Arcad3> or this is the only one?:)
[10:34] <ikonia> Arcad3 go away
[10:34] <ikonia> this is not a "hackers" channel
[10:34] <Jax-S179> i bet he's going to ask someone to hack his password back or something
[10:34] <Arcad3> man i'm just kidding
[10:34] <ikonia> he should just be kicked. This channel is busy enough
[10:34] <mneptok> Arcad3: yes, but you need a union card. which you need to download from a web site.
[10:35] <Jax-S179> anyway, I've been running ubuntu for 3 weeks now, and I'm very happy I made the switch. anyone here a beta tester?
[10:35] <Sktfeelsdapper> how do you find your asound.conf files?
[10:35] <Sktfeelsdapper> or your asoundrc or any of those files?
[10:36] <mneptok> Sktfeelsdapper: "locate"
[10:37] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> guys need help installing mon on edubuntu
[10:37] <cpk2> might need to updatedb to use locate usefully
[10:37] <Sktfeelsdapper> nobody knows where these files are?
[10:38] <ikonia> use find
[10:38] <mneptok> Sktfeelsdapper: locate is your friend
[10:38] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> !mono
[10:38] <Arcad3> wtf
[10:38] <ubotu> mono: Mono CLI (.NET) runtime. In component main, is optional. Version <IP_ADDRESS>-0ubuntu3 (dapper), package size 1 kB, installed size 24 kB
[10:38] <BHSPitLappy> locate is my friend. too
[10:38] <mneptok> (just run updatedb first as root)
[10:38] <Arcad3> we have ssh scanner in uor repository
[10:38] <LookTJ> What is point of dosing?
[10:38] <LookTJ> wasting bandwitch?
[10:39] <narma> how can I chose the charset encoding of a removable media when it is mounted (or before) ?
[10:39] <Arcad3> unmount and disable
[10:41] <nrdb> I am trying to qemu to talk to my LAN, I am using ubuntu as the host, a tap1 interface is being created, the packet counts on it do increase, but I still can't get the guest OS (DSL) to ping anything successfully.
[10:44] <muxx> hello guys. can I have a little advice ? I am installing latest ubuntu on an Athlon box with AMD chipset (not 64bit !) and having problem with ACPI-allocated I/O regions. none of the adapters work. when I turn acpi=off, it works fine. the BIOS is already latest version. what do I do ? I don't really need ACPI, but being able to power off after shutdown would be great.
[10:46] <Netslayer> how can i setup ubuntu to run on a raid set for boot? i've tried both nvidia nforce and sil controllers raid bioses onboard, booted live and they don't show up in the partioner. is my only option software linux raid?
[10:48] <Netslayer> fyi the edgy beta cd sucks at a dell 24" panel.. locks it up unless you kill x before it loads and install nvidia drivers and a proper xorg with modelines.. same issue in dapper sad it was never fixed
[10:50] <trm> Hi everyone, can anyone tell me if there is a way to install ubuntu without going into the live ubunut screen as I am having problems doing it that way.
[10:50] <enyc> trm: yes.. you use the 'alternate' cd
[10:50] <Jax-S179> there's several different live cd's
[10:50] <enyc> trm: there are some known problems with the "live" installer ('desktop' cd)
[10:50] <trm> I think i have alternate here somewhere, thanks I will give that a try.
[10:51] <enyc> trm: also note... the 6.06.1 "point release" cds have some known installer problems fixed that were present in 6.06 original cds
[10:51] <bertzke> hz there
[10:51] <bertzke> hy there
[10:51] <bertzke> i need some help pls
[10:51] <zappe> what do i write in the REWRITE Conf part to get all outgoing mails look like<EMAIL_ADDRESS>? (in exim)
[10:51] <bertzke> someone who has some time
[10:52] <trm> will check if our distributor has 6.06.1 this is the first installation problem ive had and yes its on a HP notebook :)
[10:52] <bertzke> to explain to me something about ubuntu
[10:52] <Arcad3> what topic
[10:52] <Arcad3> ?
[10:52] <mneptok> trm: you might want to use the alternate CD for additional control of the installation process.
[10:53] <trm> thanks I found the alternate CD, trying that now
[10:53] <rBo3Db> is there a way to start dapper installation at boot, without entering the gnome?
[10:54] <Arcad3> use the alternate cd
[10:55] <LookTJ> God I'm bored
[10:55] <rBo3Db> alternate cd, is it advice for me?
[10:55] <Arcad3> yes
[10:55] <LookTJ> Hey guys how much is a HP laserprinter?
[10:55] <LookTJ> I have 40$
[10:55] <Arcad3> google
[10:55] <trm> Thanks, alternate CD is installing fine.
[10:56] <Janchi> Question: I seem to have found the cause of Ubuntu freezing on my iMac Indigo. The culprit seems to be xserver-xorg that replaces xserver-xfree86. There is word around the grapevine that a solution exists, but I can't find it. Anyone heard about it?
[10:56] <rBo3Db> arcad3: thanks... alternate cd downloadable at usual places, with other cd isos?
[10:56] <ikonia> xorg shouldn't be a problem
[10:56] <mneptok> Janchi: Ubuntu ships with the xorg X11, not xfree
[10:57] <Arcad3> yes
[10:57] <ikonia> yes what ?
[10:57] <Arcad3> yes alternate cds downloadable at usual places
[10:57] <nrdb> I am trying to qemu to talk to my LAN, I am using ubuntu as the host, a tap1 interface is being created, the packet counts on it do increase, but I still can't get the guest OS (DSL) to ping anything successfully. :( there seems to be a problem with with the ARP protocol not going between the guest and the host OS.
[10:57] <ikonia> nrb you asked the same question about a minute ago
[10:58] <rBo3Db> arcad3, thanks
[10:58] <Arcad3> np
[10:58] <nrdb> ikonia: 15 minutes ago, I have new info to.
[10:58] <Arcad3> ikonia M or F?
[10:59] <ikonia> my time stamp says 8 minutes ago
[10:59] <ikonia> Arcad3 why ?
[10:59] <Arcad3> in my contry ur nick uses a naighbour  of mine
[11:00] <Arcad3> a F
[11:00] <Arcad3> is no joke
[11:01] <ikonia> I didn't think it was a joke
[11:01] <Arcad3> she puts c instead of k
[11:02] <kaffeewoller> hi
[11:02] <steamR> xchat #Ubuntu | filter 'bullshit' --> returns none
[11:02] <Arcad3> hola
[11:02] <kaffeewoller> can one have nautilus partially transparent?
[11:03] <Arcad3> u can have it how u want it
[11:03] <Arcad3> i meen
[11:03] <Arcad3> u can change  it
[11:03] <kaffeewoller> where can i adjust transparency?
[11:03] <kedde> Does anybody know a C++ example or code for API to wireless networking?
[11:03] <pilou> is there a way to install not UTF8 locales into ubuntu ?
[11:04] <mneptok> kaffeewoller: you'll need a compositing manager and other sundries for a transparent GNOME
[11:04] <spocky> hi
[11:04] <mneptok> kaffeewoller: it is not straightforward, and should not be attempted unless you know a bit about X11.
[11:04] <Arcad3> try gnome look
[11:05] <kaffeewoller> mneptok: no, i dont know too much about x. thanks
[11:05] <kaffeewoller> Arcad3: i did
[11:05] <Arcad3> why u want gnome transparent?
[11:05] <kaffeewoller> i just wondered whether there is some button or slider or value in the configuration manager...
[11:05] <mneptok> kaffeewoller: as AIGLX and FGLX and others get more mature this stuff will become less of an issue.
[11:06] <Arcad3> it isnt
[11:06] <Janchi> mneptok, exactly. On the iMac xorg freezes. I found that out while installing Debian Sarge. Sarge still uses xfree, but when upgrading to Sid it froze like Ubuntu. xserver-xorg seems to be the culprit
[11:06] <kaffeewoller> mneptok: i believe that, ubuntu is developing fast
[11:06] <ikonia> thats a poor way to diagnose the problem
[11:07] <mneptok> Janchi: are these clean installs, or aer you trying to overwite one X11 implementation with another and expecting no problems? ;)
[11:07] <kaffeewoller> i just wondered, because having panels or the terminal transparent is possible by now
[11:07] <kaffeewoller> why not nautilus, too?
[11:09] <ucordes> how can i scroll up and down in command line mode?
[11:09] <ikonia> page up / down
[11:09] <ucordes> ikonia: doesn't work
[11:09] <gandolfthewizard> gm all
[11:10] <ikonia> ucordes what terminal are you using
[11:10] <bionoid> ucordes: shift+pgup/pgdown then?
[11:10] <ucordes> no terminal. i'm in rescue mode or whatever it is called
[11:10] <gandolfthewizard> looking for some help in installing a plug in for firefox
[11:10] <Janchi> mneptok, Ubuntu Dapper on the iMac was a clean install. Sarge was a clean install, from Sarge to Sid was an upgrade
[11:10] <Arcad3> ucordes why r u in rescue mode?
[11:11] <Arcad3> ur x failed?
[11:11] <cpk2> ucordes: hold shift while pressing page up and page down
[11:11] <ucordes> Arcad3: my xserver won't start
[11:11] <cpk2> oops bionoid beat me to it
[11:11] <Arcad3> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[11:12] <gandolfthewizard> can someone help me in installing the flash player plug in in fire fox
[11:12] <ucordes> bionoid: that's all i ever wanted :-) thanks
[11:12] <Arcad3> good luck
[11:12] <ucordes> Arcad3: thanks
[11:12] <ucordes> ^^
[11:12] <Arcad3> np
[11:12] <Sktfeelsdapper> Where are these /etc/asound files i keep seeing?
[11:12] <ucordes> the command line is a nice thing. and i didn't know that there was a text based irc
[11:12] <Sktfeelsdapper> I'm not seeing them at all.
[11:12] <ucordes> i found it out by accident
[11:13] <Arcad3> ucordes let me guess
[11:13] <Sktfeelsdapper> i didn't like that console based irc
[11:13] <Arcad3> u had installed nvidia driver?
[11:13] <rBo3Db> in drake release notes, i see the min ram requirement of 256MB... using an alternate cd and installing windowmaker instead of gnome, will the min ram requirement will be that of windowmaker?
[11:13] <Sktfeelsdapper> !asound
[11:13] <Arcad3> and the x failed
[11:13] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about asound - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:13] <Sktfeelsdapper> !esound
[11:13] <ubotu> esound: Enlightened Sound Daemon - Support binaries. In component main, is optional. Version 0.2.36-3ubuntu3 (dapper), package size 26 kB, installed size 100 kB
[11:13] <Sktfeelsdapper> !etc
[11:13] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about etc - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:13] <ucordes> Arcad3: you lost by a 49% chance :P i got ati
[11:13] <Netslayer> can someone assist me with dmraid? it's detecting my nvidia stripe (dmraid -r) but nothing appears in /dev/mapper/... any ideas?
[11:14] <skar_> hi, how do i make gnome-terminal treat "alt+uparrow" to scroll up by a single line?
[11:14] <Sktfeelsdapper> i'm trying to find these asoundrc thing so i can figure it.
[11:14] <ucordes> and the driver was unusuable after i switched from 386 to K7
[11:14] <ucordes> but ill try out the reconfigure now
[11:14] <Sktfeelsdapper> ANd I can't find it anywhere, and it's driving me crazy because i've been to it before.
[11:14] <Sktfeelsdapper> Just the other day.
[11:14] <Arcad3> u shold read a viki before install
[11:14] <Arcad3> about ati
[11:14] <gandolfthewizard> i needto install a plug in for firefox any help
[11:15] <ucordes> Arcad3: is there a text based browser?
[11:15] <noner> Hello, is there a way to view list of handy commands in Ubuntu?
[11:15] <Sktfeelsdapper> anybody asound config?
[11:15] <Parama> ucordes: lynx
[11:15] <Arcad3> yes
[11:15] <Arcad3> http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_install_Flash_Player_.28Macromedia_Flash.29_Plug-in_for_Mozilla_Firefox
[11:15] <pilou> ucordes, elinks or w3m are much more friendly
[11:16] <ucordes> pilou: which one of those is your favourite?
[11:16] <noner> I got an error message did you just see my post?
[11:16] <pilou> I use elinks since I knew about w3m after ;)
[11:16] <Arcad3> ucordes in the x configuration  at the display driver hoose the default
[11:16] <Parama> noner: yes
[11:16] <rBo3Db> is 256MB min ram requirement in drake related to gnome? if i replace gnome with another WM, may that req. reduce?
[11:17] <Parama> noner: but handy commands is not very specific
[11:17] <Parama> what do you want to do?
[11:17] <noner> Parama: some way to view the commands commonly used in Ubuntu?
[11:17] <Arcad3> can someone donate me a mainboard?
[11:17] <Arcad3> :)
[11:18] <pilou> is it possible for ubuntu to deals with non UTF8 encoding files ?
[11:18] <rBo3Db> i want to install drake on a machine with 128MB ram, 500 MHz cpu
[11:18] <pilou> I can't find non UTF8 locales :(
[11:18] <Parama> noner: but again 'commonly' is a hard one to categorize
[11:18] <trm> Arcad3, I have a spare 286 board ure welcome to have.
[11:18] <ucordes> Arcad3: sudo apt-get install bunch-of-free-mainboards
[11:18] <Parama> it's really hard, so sorry
[11:18] <Arcad3> =))
[11:18] <Parama> help
[11:18] <Janchi> mneptok, one of the solutions that was suggested was not to use the FBDev option. I was curious whether someone had experience with it.
[11:18] <noner> Parama: Ubuntu's help doesn't list them somewhere?
[11:18] <Parama> help  - would give you a list
[11:19] <Parama> not that i know of
[11:19] <trm> is automatics still usable/advisable with ubuntu 6 ?
[11:19] <mneptok> Janchi: the solution is to abandon the deprecated XFree86 for X.org ;)
[11:21] <gandolfthewizard> can't find the package
[11:21] <kedde>  Does anybody know a C++ example code or API to wireless networking on Linux?
[11:21] <tripppy> should i ask here about GRUB boot errors when installing Ubuntu?
[11:22] <trm> anyone know if automatics still usable/advisable with ubuntu 6 ? Or is there an alternative
[11:22] <ic56> noner: the Debian reference manual has list of commands in one of its chapters. Ubuntu is based on Debian so this is a good list.  Hang on while I lookup a URL.
[11:22] <Janchi> mneptok, sorry but that is exactly what is causing the problem on the iMac. X.org is freezing, not xfree86
[11:22] <ucordes> few finnaly got the xserver back.
[11:22] <noner> ic56: please do
[11:22] <Arcad3> gando....: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_add_extra_repositories
[11:22] <Arcad3> good
[11:23] <mneptok> Janchi: probably because you have old bits of XFree lying around
[11:23] <gandolfthewizard> i really apreciate this help guys i am new to linux but i am learning
[11:23] <Arcad3> is nothing
[11:23] <Arcad3> gando
[11:24] <Arcad3> search it on http://packages.ubuntu.com
[11:24] <Arcad3> and install manualy
[11:24] <Arcad3> if doesnt work
[11:24] <ucordes> how does one call the things that come up on <ctrl><alt><F1>-<F6> ?
[11:24] <gandolfthewizard> i tried to install i manually but it said that i did not have permission to do that
[11:25] <mneptok> gandolfthewizard: what are you trying to install?
[11:25] <gandolfthewizard> flash player
[11:25] <trm> ok let me ask this a different way, I need to do many new installations with the least amount of manual labour/manual configuration but I still need all the basic plugins/applications installed. Are there any utilities I can use to automate some of the basic tasks ?
[11:25] <Janchi> mneptok, how is that possible with a clean install of Dapper?
[11:25] <Arcad3> for firefox
[11:25] <gandolfthewizard> yes for firefox
[11:25] <mneptok> gandolfthewizard: Ubuntu, Kubuntu, ... ?
[11:25] <gandolfthewizard> ubuntu
[11:26] <mneptok> gandolfthewizard: open Synaptic Package Manager. enable the Universe and Multiverse repositiories. reload package info. then install "flashplugin-nonfree"
[11:26] <Arcad3> gandolfthewizard i gave u the 2 links
[11:26] <mneptok> Janchi: it is possible because you probably did not reformat the partition on which Linux lives.
[11:26] <gandolfthewizard> how do i do that
[11:26] <ic56> noner: here it is. Install the reference manual: apt-get install debian-reference-common debian-reference-en   Then point your browser to file:///usr/share/doc/Debian/reference/ch-tutorial.en.html
[11:26] <Arcad3> first do the one with repositories
[11:27] <mneptok> gandolfthewizard: try it first. it's easy.
[11:27] <Arcad3> http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_add_extra_repositories  then http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_install_Flash_Player_.28Macromedia_Flash.29_Plug-in_for_Mozilla_Firefox
[11:27] <trm> no response, dissappointing.
[11:27] <Arcad3> just tipe the given commands in u console
[11:28] <mneptok> trm: look into Ubuntu preseeding
[11:28] <Arcad3> *ur
[11:28] <ikonia> trm not sure I understood your question
[11:28] <Janchi> mneptop, he he, got you there. I installed it on an iMac. A complete reformat of the harddrive was needed in order to make that happen.
[11:28] <noner> ic56: Thanks for your help. Can I get the downloadbale link for Windows? I am searching, If you have the link at hand pls give but dont bother abt it.
[11:28] <ic56> noner: let me see
[11:29] <Arcad3> noner i give windows
[11:29] <Arcad3> sp3
[11:29] <ucordes> is there a command line icq?
[11:29] <Arcad3> with 6000 trojans installed
[11:29] <mneptok> Janchi: x.org works perfectly well on PPC. i have installed it countless times on Apple hardware. x.org itself is not the problem.
[11:29] <trm> ikonia, I need to install ubuntu on about 30 workstations, but i need them fully functional with plugins and configuration, I am looking for a utility (same as what automatics did) to assist me in all these installations.
[11:29] <ikonia> ucordes there is but I can't remember the name
[11:29] <mneptok> ucordes: bitlbee
[11:29] <VladimirBG> hi, can anyone help with an adsl modem issue?
[11:29] <ikonia> trm kickstart with the debian installer and some scripting in the post install section
[11:30] <Arcad3> trm u need the dvd
[11:30] <ikonia> or a network install
[11:30] <Arcad3> or use knoppix 5.0
[11:30] <mneptok> trm: what you want is a combination of preseeding and apt-cache.
[11:31] <Arcad3> better use knoppix
[11:31] <ikonia> nah, kickstart will do most of it, then some post-install scripts will tidy up
[11:31] <tripppy> i've just installed ubuntu onto hdd4 with a extented partiton for swap. i ran live cd, installed, rebooted and got a GRUB error.
[11:31] <Arcad3> it has it all codecs wine ...
[11:31] <cpk2> you can add your own plugins onto the install iso
[11:31] <Janchi> mneptop, I know. That is what makes it frustrating to attempt any solution. People who have the problem (a minority) also report it is erratic and not constant.
[11:31] <uwjames> and another newbie enters the room (that would be me).. wouldn't you know it, my sound card doesn't work
[11:31] <trm> all sounds pretty greek unfortunately, is kickstart an application ?
[11:31] <LookTJ> how do i change spaslh screen?
[11:32] <ikonia> LookTJ .splash or the splash screen config tool
[11:32] <ikonia> trm its an automated install process
[11:32] <Arcad3> or leave it like that
[11:32] <noner> ic56: got it
[11:32] <stu_> could someone look at this for me please: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25481/
[11:32] <trm> ikonia, its only on the DVD ?
[11:32] <gandolfthewizard> ty guys
[11:32] <ic56> noner: cool. ttyl
[11:32] <LookTJ> ok
[11:32] <ikonia> no its available in the repo
[11:32] <noner> ic56: here http://packages.debian.org/stable/doc/debian-reference-common
[11:33] <trm> ikonia, ok let me dig around some, thanks
[11:33] <VladimirBG> I use us robotics sureconnect adsl modem, and I can't figureout how to enable it. It's connected trough ethernet..
[11:33] <uwjames> so would anyone happen to know how I can get my on-board sound card to work? (apollo super acpi)
[11:34] <mneptok> VladimirBG: there should be no configuration necessary. do you use PPPoE?
[11:35] <VladimirBG> mneptok, yes, but it requires to input username and password
[11:35] <VladimirBG> mneptok, under fedora I use xdsl template with eth0
[11:35] <pip> hello,I can not restart my X windows with <Ctrl>+<Alt>+<Backspace>,how to fix it ?
[11:35] <cpk2> trm: I believe there is also a tool that lets you add things onto the iso so you wouldnt have to apt-get and stuff after it installs
[11:36] <mneptok> VladimirBG: /usr/sbin/pppoeconf
[11:36] <noner> What do you think of downloading ubuntu via emule? Mine is an older version.
[11:36] <VladimirBG> mneptok, that's all?
[11:36] <mneptok> noner: why not just use BitTorrent?
[11:36] <mneptok> VladimirBG: da
[11:36] <VladimirBG> mneptok, thanks
[11:36] <pip> any ideas ?
[11:37] <mneptok> VladimirBG: pahjulstah
[11:37] <noner> mneptok: that would be safer?
[11:37] <LookTJ> I believe Ubuntu support is greater than Windows support :P
[11:37] <mneptok> noner: safer and faster
[11:37] <mneptok> LookTJ: e-mail that thought to Mark Shuttleworth, please :)
[11:38] <amarillion> Hello, how do I find out which package provides libxpcom.so?
[11:38] <noner> mneptok: I will look for torrent file then, thanks
[11:38] <LookTJ> who's he?
[11:38] <mneptok> noner: there are .torrents on the official mirror sites. we officially distribute *Ubuntu via BT.
[11:39] <noner> mneptok: I see
[11:39] <noner> mneptok: familiar with OReilly Ubuntu Hacks Tips and Tools for Exploring Using and Tuning Linux.chm?
[11:39] <rBo3Db> if i boot from a live cd into gnome (drake), then switch to a terminal, is there a way to launch the installer?
[11:39] <noner> mneptok: is it good?
[11:39] <mneptok> noner: haven't read it
[11:40] <mneptok> noner: http://ubuntu-releases.cs.umn.edu//6.06/  <--- scroll down for the complete list, including torrents
[11:40] <marlon> hey hey
[11:41] <Arcad3> .
[11:41] <Arcad3> can someone see what im tiping?
[11:41] <mneptok> no.
[11:41] <marlon> i can:D
[11:41] <Arcad3> my iternet connecction is bad
[11:41] <LookTJ> edgy released at end of month right?
[11:41] <LookTJ> octcober 26th?
[11:42] <marlon> when i shutdown .. i just get coloured squares and the ubuntu shutdown sound plays over and over.. ( basically box freezes) any ideas anyone?
[11:42] <rBo3Db> uh, is drake installer _supposed_ to be launched from gui, not cli?
[11:42] <cpk2> rBo3Db: yup, unless you get the alternate install
[11:43] <rBo3Db> cpk2... thanks... yeah, again that alternate
[11:43] <ucordes> after i changed my kernel from linux-386 to linux-k7 and reinstalled the ati driver from www.ati.com my login screen disappeared. i only can start x with startx. how can i get it back`?
[11:43] <Arcad3> what download speeds do you have?i want to compare with mine
[11:44] <marlon> 1.5mb /s :D
[11:44] <LookTJ> I'm the only active member of my family using Ubuntu Linux :'(
[11:44] <gandolfthewizard> ty guys for the help i really appreciate it
[11:44] <danthemantis> how can i restore grub after windows got rid of it?
[11:44] <marlon> rofl you guys have even bigger problesm than me
[11:44] <LookTJ> where's the offtopic ubuntu channel?
[11:44] <Arcad3> i have 16K/s
[11:44] <marlon> lol thas slow mate:D
[11:44] <rBo3Db> ~8 kB, at a post office
[11:44] <marlon> i got a 10mbit line though
[11:45] <Arcad3> LAN internet connection
[11:45] <Arcad3> what ur bill?
[11:45] <Arcad3> 14$ is mine
[11:45] <mneptok> ucordes: try "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"
[11:45] <ucordes> marlon do you want to donate my half of your bandwith?
[11:45] <rBo3Db> 1$/hour
[11:45] <marlon> hehe
[11:45] <LookTJ> I have comcast, comcast ftw!
[11:45] <danthemantis> anyone able to help me with that grub issue?
[11:46] <ucordes> mneptok: allready tried. won't get my my login screen back.
[11:46] <marlon> i got a download limit of 10gb a month
[11:46] <CalculusA> Hello
[11:46] <marlon> so anyone got anyidea.. about my coloured squares problem in shutdown?
[11:46] <Arcad3> danthemantis: u are in Win$ now?
[11:46] <danthemantis> Arcad3 yeah
[11:47] <ucordes> how can i look for a phrease in irc?
[11:47] <ucordes> prhase
[11:47] <Werdna> hello, is it possible to mount an ISO FILE without dd'ing it to disk? mount file mountpoint -t iso9660 gives mountpoint is not a block device. try -o loop? Mounting with -o loop gives wrong fs, bad option, bad superblock, missing codepage
[11:47] <Arcad3> u have the Ubuntu cd?
[11:47] <ucordes> danthemantis: that'S ugly
[11:47] <Arcad3> "!find wethever
[11:48] <danthemantis> Arcad3 yeah
[11:48] <ucordes> !find squares
[11:48] <ubotu> File squares found in libvips-tools, xscreensaver-data
[11:48] <CalculusA> could someone tell me how to start a process in rc.local that binds itself to a console (i.e tty1)
[11:48] <Arcad3> reinstall ubuntu..
[11:48] <ucordes> lol
[11:48] <danthemantis> ugh
[11:48] <Arcad3> otherwise use Knoppix Live cd to fix grub
[11:49] <danthemantis> i have a knoppix live cd but its sooooo slow
[11:49] <ucordes> danthemantis: you don't need to reinstall if it's only about your grub!
[11:49] <danthemantis> i know
[11:49] <danthemantis> thats why i 'ugh'd
[11:49] <danthemantis> i thought he was gonna help me
[11:49] <danthemantis> ;\
[11:49] <Arcad3> u need the console of knoppix
[11:49] <Arcad3> that isnt slow
[11:49] <ucordes> danthemais: :-) right... you should try the automated grub rescue disc
[11:49] <LookTJ> what is your problem danthemantis?
[11:49] <danthemantis> will it go on a cd?
[11:50] <danthemantis> i never baught a floppy drive
[11:50] <danthemantis> :|
[11:50] <ucordes> danthemantis: sure thats why it is the rescue DISC
[11:50] <LookTJ> what problem about grub?
[11:50] <ucordes> danthematnis: me n'either
[11:50] <danthemantis> LookTJ installed windows
[11:50] <danthemantis> ill look up that rescue disc
[11:50] <ucordes> danthemantis: grub rescue disc saved my ass once and it will save yours too. trust my it
[11:51] <ucordes> is a fine thing
[11:51] <ucordes> tell me if you found something...
[11:51] <LookTJ> !language
[11:51] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[11:51] <Jax-S179> hey guys
[11:51] <LookTJ> pointed at ucordes
[11:51] <ucordes> how can i copy and paste in command line?
[11:51] <Arcad3> hi'
[11:52] <Jax-S179> edit->paste
[11:52] <LookTJ> highlight it
[11:52] <Jax-S179> oh wait, I'm thinking of the terminal
[11:52] <danthemantis> middle mouse button
[11:52] <danthemantis> will paste
[11:52] <danthemantis> just highlight text
[11:52] <danthemantis> to copy
[11:52] <ucordes> no man i'm in command line
[11:52] <danthemantis> you dont have moused setup
[11:52] <Jax-S179> yea command line is different from terminal
[11:52] <danthemantis> ?
[11:52] <LookTJ> write it down on paper
[11:52] <LookTJ> :|
[11:53] <danthemantis> cant find anything about this grub disc, at least nothing useful FROM windows
[11:53] <ucordes> LookTJ: i am ways too lazy to write down a URL with about 40 characters to a piece of paper
[11:54] <marlon> isnt everyone lool
[11:54] <marlon> gnome-session is not neccsary pacakge?
[11:54] <LookTJ> then memize it
[11:54] <LookTJ> :S
[11:54] <Arcad3> i have a question
[11:54] <THX-1138> danthemantis: Are you looking for a way to use ntloader in place of grub?
[11:54] <LookTJ> memorize*
[11:54] <ucordes> LookTJ what does that mean, memize?
[11:55] <LookTJ> grr i can
[11:55] <ucordes> oh ok
[11:55] <danthemantis> no id like to reload grub
[11:55] <THX-1138> Hello ubuntutuans
[11:55] <ucordes> you are a funny buddy, LookTJ
[11:55] <ucordes> really
[11:55] <LookTJ> can't get my words right
[11:55] <Arcad3> i u spend most of the time to repair Ubuntu...when u gonna use it?:))
[11:56] <danthemantis> ill use it as soon as i get back into it
[11:56] <benjamin> hey, i gat a little network question: what is running on port 23201? seems that my box uses the upnp func of my router while it shouldnt :( ?
[11:56] <LookTJ> I deleted my windows partition :D
[11:56] <THX-1138> Arcad3 - The DVD loads faster. - works for me.
[11:56] <danthemantis> i thought i could just load the cd & select the option that says install grub
[11:56] <danthemantis> but i was wrong
[11:56] <LookTJ> never going back to microsoft again
[11:56] <danthemantis> it wants me to partition first
[11:56] <THX-1138> grub-install ?
[11:57] <danthemantis> can i do that from knoppix?
[11:57] <Arcad3> if u have a major problem REINSTALL its the solution
[11:57] <Arcad3> it takes only 15min
[11:57] <netG> test
[11:57] <THX-1138> the text install "alternate install" cd - the DVD has all three options included. live, text, OEM
[11:57] <danthemantis> arcad3 no
[11:57] <Arcad3> and another 15 to brack it back
[11:57] <marlon>  cu guys later
[11:57] <danthemantis> because i only have a breezy cd
[11:57] <benjamin> netG: it works ;)
[11:57] <danthemantis> so install breezy
[11:57] <danthemantis> then install updates
[11:57] <danthemantis> etc etc
[11:57] <ikonia> why does everyone keep asking about knoppix in here ?
[11:58] <danthemantis> ikonia im trying to restore my access to ubuntu
[11:58] <THX-1138> !grub
[11:58] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[11:58] <THX-1138> Any help?
[11:58] <danthemantis> ill see
[11:59] <LookTJ> I'm gonna need a good cd burning software for edgy release in about 24 days
[11:59] <LookTJ> ;)
[11:59] <lalala> nee
[11:59] <lalala> sorry
[11:59] <LookTJ> lol
[11:59] <LookTJ> funny name
[11:59] <danthemantis> ahhh shit
[11:59] <danthemantis> i been typing 'linux rescue'
[11:59] <danthemantis> trying to get that optiob
[11:59] <danthemantis> option
[11:59] <LookTJ> !language > danthemantis
[12:00] <klick> Hey all, I had a rotate script which figured out which xrandr setting your screen was in, then it would toggle it clockwise each time you ran it, but for the life of me i can't find it, does anyone know where I can find this at?
[12:00] <danthemantis> sorry
[12:00] <LookTJ> :)
[12:00] <LookTJ> it's ok
[12:00] <THX-1138> I got tired of Windows overwriting grub. made a disk image of that partition - takes less than 15 mins to install a full patched and ready to go vers. - CD copy protection keeps windows on my machine.
[12:00] <LookTJ> i hate ati video cards
[12:00] <khaije1> !ati
[12:00] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[12:00] <LookTJ> I like Nvidia cards
[12:01] <LookTJ> :|
[12:01] <muxx> hello guys. can I have a little advice ? I am installing latest ubuntu on an Athlon box with AMD chipset (not 64bit !) and having problem with ACPI-allocated I/O regions. none of the adapters work. when I turn acpi=off, it works fine. the BIOS is already latest version. what do I do ? I don't really need ACPI, but being able to power off after shutdown would be great.
[12:01] <Arcad3> ati sucks:P
[12:01] <khaije1> hmm... i was expecting something more derogatory...
[12:01] <grayscale> im trying to do some data recovery using the ubuntu livecd and im having problems mounting the drives installed in my pc, can anyone help me out?
[12:01] <LookTJ> yea i have a ati raedom 9000
[12:01] <Arcad3> grayscale
[12:01] <Arcad3> u have windows installed?
[12:01] <LookTJ> Nvidia more stable and has best picture
[12:01] <THX-1138> !mount
[12:01] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted  -  Formatting partitions: see the manual page for mkfs ("man mkfs")  -  Mounting partitions in Gnome: System -> Administration -> Disks
[12:01] <LookTJ> me? no
[12:01] <THX-1138> !chroot
[12:01] <ubotu> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebootstrapChroot use this to build 32 bit environments on a 64 bit box
[12:02] <grayscale> yeah XP is installed the PC im trying to recover
[12:02] <Arcad3> it is a software
[12:02] <whazilla> hey
[12:02] <grayscale> so all the HD's are NTFS, 2 SATA, 1 IDE
[12:02] <Arcad3> that an view and extract files from linux partitions
[12:02] <whazilla> how i force my ifconfig to take an ip number ?
[12:02] <THX-1138> disk imaging is the best thing since sliced bread.
[12:02] <whazilla> it won't atm
[12:03] <LookTJ> i had setup dual boot before having to overwrite windows's bootloader
[12:03] <grayscale> when i go the computer browser, and click a device, it says its cant mount it with the message, "error: device /dev/hda1 is not mountable  error: could not execute pmount"
[12:03] <THX-1138>   ifconfig [-v]  interface [aftype]  options | address
[12:04] <LookTJ> wow im going offtopic
[12:04] <LookTJ> :|
[12:04] <MDCore> hey guys. I'm trying to put a symlink in my public_html but it ain't working. Any ideas?
[12:04] <Sktfeelsdapper> where are my deb packages suppose to go?
[12:04] <usysadmin> hi
[12:04] <Arcad3> grayscale:http://easylinux.info/uploads/explore2fs-1.07.zip
[12:04] <Sktfeelsdapper> because i think they are going into the wrong place.
[12:04] <Sktfeelsdapper> !dbus
[12:04] <ubotu> dbus: simple interprocess messaging system. In component main, is optional. Version 0.60-6ubuntu8 (dapper), package size 316 kB, installed size 700 kB
[12:05] <SEN-5421> anyone here use skype with a bluetooth headset?
[12:05] <THX-1138> !dcop
[12:05] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dcop - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:05] <Sktfeelsdapper> !dbus-1
[12:05] <ikonia> dcops dead baby
[12:05] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dbus-1 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:05] <whazilla> THX-1138 like in windows i do ipconfig /renew
[12:05] <Sktfeelsdapper> !Synaptic
[12:05] <ubotu> synaptic is Ubuntu's Graphical Package Manager. For a good howto see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticHowto
[12:05] <THX-1138> Sktfeelsdapper: Thanks - You just solved an earlier problem.
[12:05] <whazilla> what 's the linux opposite ?
[12:06] <Jax-S179> windows?
[12:06] <usysadmin> I have a problem! I'm running dapper drake 2.6.15-27 on a IBM machine and it spontanously restart!
[12:06] <THX-1138> whazilla - sudo ifconfig -a  ??
[12:06] <usysadmin> please help
[12:06] <whazilla> thkx
[12:06] <SEN-5421> anyone here use skype with a bluetooth headset?
[12:06] <ikonia> what sort of restarts
[12:06] <usysadmin> It restarts a few times a day
[12:06] <ikonia> crashes
[12:06] <ikonia> hardware reset
[12:06] <ikonia> etc
[12:06] <usysadmin> like hardware reset
[12:06] <usysadmin> yes
[12:07] <whazilla> it doesn't renew
[12:07] <whazilla> :$
[12:07] <whazilla> i wanne force it to take an ip
[12:07] <ikonia> so  no error, no crash, no anything. Just black screen then a bootup
[12:07] <whazilla> it won't
[12:07] <THX-1138> whazilla - would release then renew work?
[12:07] <usysadmin> ikonia, excacly
[12:07] <usysadmin> ikonia, nothing in klog, syslog
[12:07] <ikonia> mostlkley a hardware error then
[12:08] <ikonia> or hardware incompatability
[12:08] <usysadmin> like RAM?
[12:08] <whazilla> release and renew says option not recognized
[12:08] <ikonia> like a hardware error
[12:08] <THX-1138> ikonia - did you switch monitors. - i have seen it do that.
[12:08] <usysadmin> ok, I'll look into that, thanks
[12:08] <LookTJ> whzilla: why do you wanna renew your interenl IP
[12:08] <ikonia> THX-1138 pardon ?
[12:08] <whazilla> yah i got no ip :$
[12:08] <THX-1138> ikonia - black screen on boot up.
[12:09] <ikonia> I'm not having any problems. Someone else was having hardware resets
[12:09] <Parama> my console show the login prompt before all service are loaded
[12:09] <Parama> anybody know why?
[12:09] <hastesaver> join #ubuntu-offtopic
[12:09] <hastesaver> oops
[12:09] <THX-1138> whazilla - sudo ifconfig -a    or easier use the tools included on the administration menu.
[12:09] <hastesaver> btw, how does one start mplayer from a point later in the file?
[12:09] <whitedeth> haha, I found an excellent solution to my flash player problem :D
[12:09] <LookTJ> copy the output of ifconfig
[12:09] <LookTJ> on http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/
[12:09] <whitedeth> running Firefox via Wine with FP9 :D
[12:09] <hastesaver> whitedeth, what's it?
[12:10] <whazilla> THX-1138 tool don't work with deactivate reactivate i still don't get an ip :$
[12:10] <LookTJ> and give us the link
[12:10] <hastesaver> whitedeth, ugh :-)
[12:10] <THX-1138> hatesaver - Audacity" sound editor?
[12:10] <whitedeth> now not only do I have Flashplayer 9, it's full speed, and it doesnt crash at all.
[12:10] <whitedeth> it's awesome!
[12:10] <hastesaver> THX-1138, thanks, but I want to know how to do it in mplayer :-)
[12:11] <LookTJ> how do i install flashplayer 9?
[12:11] <whitedeth> LookT: You have to do it through wine for wine emulated FireFox.
[12:11] <LookTJ> flashplayer 9 is out for linux
[12:11] <LookTJ> -_-
[12:11] <whitedeth> no
[12:12] <THX-1138> whazilla - check dhcp settings. and then check if the modules are installed for your hardware?  sudo lsmod
[12:12] <amarillion> how do I find out which package provides libxpcom.so?
[12:12] <LookTJ> http://www.adobe.com/shockwave/download/download.cgi?P1_Prod_Version=ShockwaveFlash
[12:12] <LookTJ> yes
[12:12] <amarillion> Or, how do I find out which package contains any file, for that matteR?
[12:12] <LookTJ> never mind
[12:12] <LookTJ> sorry
[12:12] <whitedeth> ...
[12:12] <LookTJ> i hate wine
[12:12] <whitedeth> lol
[12:12] <whitedeth> LookT why?
[12:12] <whitedeth> working fine here
[12:12] <whitedeth> perfect, infact.
[12:12] <THX-1138> LokTJ - yep - shaders for games would be nice.
[12:13] <jomino> hello
[12:13] <LookTJ> -_- quit spelling my Nick wrong
[12:13] <whitedeth> lol
[12:13] <edgy> amarillion: dpkg -S I guess
[12:13] <amarillion> Yes, but that only works if you have the package installed
[12:14] <amarillion> I guess I could install ALL packages and then do that
[12:14] <hastesaver> whitedeth, use <TAB> (if you're using xchat, or some good chat client; not gaim or something!)
[12:15] <THX-1138> LookTJ: Okay, on one condition you get to spell mine wrong once. - grin
[12:15] <LookTJ> THX-1138: Whatever lol
[12:15] <whitedeth> hastesaver: Tab for what?
[12:15] <LookTJ> I've forgiven you also
[12:16] <hastesaver> whitedeth, for nick completion. you only have to type loo<TAB> :)
[12:16] <Jax-S179> hey can I ask you guys something about the applications list?
[12:16] <whitedeth> oh
[12:16] <whitedeth> nice.
[12:16] <whitedeth> funnily enough im in konversation.
[12:16] <Jax-S179> when I click on the tab on the upper right, to check out the new programs I installed sometimes the new ones aren't there
[12:16] <whitedeth> I HATE xchat.
[12:16] <CheekyBoinc> I Love xchat :)
[12:16] <LookTJ> I love xchat
[12:17] <CheekyBoinc> ^^
[12:17] <whitedeth> konversation is so much easier
[12:17] <LookTJ> lol hate gaim for irc
[12:17] <whitedeth> and user friendly
[12:17] <LookTJ> lol
[12:17] <whitedeth> I hate ChatZilla for IRC :|
[12:17] <LookTJ> me too
[12:17] <muxx> guys, I any suggestions regarding ACPI problem ?
[12:17] <daurnimator> i hate gaim, chatzilla, xchat & irssi
[12:18] <THX-1138> Jax-S179 - yes, and it ewould be nice if you didn't have to check for the app name to run it once from the command line to configure it. to bee seen by the menu.
[12:18] <daurnimator> for *nix, i've liked kvirc
[12:18] <markrian> What about xchat-gnome?
[12:18] <whitedeth> I agree with daurnimator.
[12:18] <whitedeth> Konversation is THE best.
[12:18] <grayscale> can someone help me mount some NTFS drives in linux? im trying to recover some data on some hd's
[12:18] <whazilla> THX-1138 i can ping my router but can't go to the router webpage ... what does that tell u ?
[12:18] <LookTJ> whitedeth: do "sudo aptitude install konversation
[12:18] <daurnimator> whazilla: your html parser is broken ;)
[12:18] <LookTJ> "
[12:19] <grayscale> my windows installation went to shit and im using the ubuntu livecd to get access to the computer, but i cant mount the NTFS drives
[12:19] <whitedeth> LookTJ: why?
[12:19] <grayscale> when i go the computer browser, and click a device, it says its cant mount it with the message, "error: device /dev/hda1 is not mountable  error: could not execute pmount"
[12:19] <THX-1138> grayscale - chroot ?? the partion first to change owership?
[12:19] <LookTJ> whitedeth: installs konversation
[12:19] <whitedeth> LookTJ: I'm using it right now...?
[12:20] <LookTJ> oh
[12:20] <whitedeth> lol
[12:20] <LookTJ> lol sorry
[12:20] <grayscale> THX-1138, what do you mean? im kind of a linux newbie :(
[12:20] <daurnimator> uh
[12:20] <daurnimator> um
[12:20] <LookTJ> didn't know
[12:20] <daurnimator> why is this happening?:
[12:20] <daurnimator> daurnimator@desktop:/srv/neuros-osd-rootfs$ sudo rm -rf *.*
[12:20] <daurnimator> daurnimator@desktop:/srv/neuros-osd-rootfs$ ls
[12:20] <THX-1138> whazilla - if you use the ipaddress in your browser you can access it? - is your router looking for a setup disk with access to activex controls. my old router could only be configured on windows.
[12:20] <LookTJ> whitedeth: I'm gnome
[12:20] <markrian> grayscale: there should be a Disks applet in the Administration menu
[12:20] <whitedeth> daurnimator: Use the pastebin?
[12:21] <daurnimator> bin  boot  dev  etc  lib  linuxrc  mnt  proc  root  sbin  tmp  usr  var
[12:21] <markrian> From there you can mount the partition
[12:21] <THX-1138> !mount > grayscale
[12:21] <daurnimator> whitedeth: only 3 lines - pastebin for 5+
[12:21] <whitedeth> oh, thought there was more
[12:21] <THX-1138> !grub > graysacale
[12:21] <markrian> !mount > markrian
[12:21] <whazilla> THX-1138 the router is configured
[12:21] <whazilla> i'm on diff pc here and online
[12:21] <daurnimator> so, uh
[12:21] <grayscale> ok im in the disks manager now
[12:21] <daurnimator> why didn't the stuff get deleted?
[12:22] <hastesaver> whitedeth, what can possibly be *not* userfriendly in an IRC client?
[12:22] <LookTJ> whazilla: disable WEP?
[12:22] <THX-1138> whazilla - I am miffed.
[12:22] <LookTJ> !wep
[12:22] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[12:22] <daurnimator> hastesaver: commandline interface
[12:22] <hastesaver> whitedeth, "IRC is just multiplayer notepad", after all; no great requirements :-)
[12:22] <whitedeth> quoting bash? :P
[12:22] <THX-1138> hastesaver - irssi
[12:23] <whitedeth> hastesaver: Maybe I got the wrong version of xchat...but...the one I had didnt even show a userlist on the right side, it was a button. Lame. It was a pain to configure it to show +v and +o and all of that.
[12:23] <whitedeth> too much hassle.
[12:23] <whitedeth> noy mt thing.
[12:23] <whazilla> miffed what's that ?
[12:23] <whitedeth> *not my thing
[12:23] <qiv> hi ... does anyone know about saving data from a formated ext3 partition? :)
[12:23] <hastesaver> daurnimator, xchat is not a commandline app... but I've used ircii too :)
[12:24] <THX-1138> whitedeth - gnome-xchat or xchat gnome - yep. no spell checking configured by default either.
[12:24] <hastesaver> whitedeth, oh, xchat-gnome (which comes by default with Ubuntu, I guess) is not xchat (this is probably the topic in #xchat, I don't know :-)
[12:24] <whitedeth> oh heh
[12:24] <hastesaver> THX-1138, does anyone care about spell-checking on IRC? I wish
[12:24] <rob> xchat has spell checking?
[12:24] <daurnimator> hastesaver: xchat is just too bare... i don't like reading from notepad for serveral hours
[12:24] <Jax-S179> gaim does
[12:24] <Jax-S179> I'm using it now
[12:24] <THX-1138> hastesaver LookTJ - does
[12:24] <whitedeth> does Konversation have spell check?
[12:25] <hastesaver> whitedeth, lol, you're using it :-)
[12:25] <grayscale> using the browse button in the disks manager, it says i dont have the proper permissions to look at any of my HD partitons
[12:25] <rob> well, my xchat has spell check via a perl script :)
[12:25] <whitedeth> hastesaver: im lazy.
[12:25] <whitedeth> :P
[12:25] <whitedeth> someone install it and check for me? :P
[12:25] <whitedeth> hahaha
[12:25] <LookTJ> on Konversation
[12:25] <LookTJ> :)
[12:25] <whitedeth> wow. Cool. This is a nice feature.
[12:25] <whitedeth> a "remember line".
[12:26] <whitedeth> it puts a thick line through the convo to help me remember that point in the convo.
[12:26] <hastesaver> daurnimator, really? What's not bare on konversation? (I can't try it; not installed here)
[12:26] <Sktfeelsdapper> where do i send debs to be downloaded?
[12:26] <hastesaver> whitedeth, xchat does that too
[12:26] <daurnimator> i don't know konversation
[12:26] <daurnimator> i use kvirc
[12:26] <hastesaver> whitedeth, it does that automatically whenever you switch channels
[12:26] <Sktfeelsdapper> anybody?
[12:26] <Sktfeelsdapper> Debs?
[12:26] <whitedeth> hastesaver: xhchat probably copied it from Konversation :P
[12:26] <hastesaver> daurnimator, kvirc not installed here either; tell me about it :-)
[12:26] <daurnimator> uh
[12:26] <Sktfeelsdapper> Where do I send a deb to be downloaded properly? Because I can't find them on my apt-get
[12:26] <daurnimator> install it yourself
[12:27] <daurnimator> sudo apt-get install kvirc
[12:27] <hastesaver> Sktfeelsdapper, what deb do you want?
[12:27] <erUSUL> !repos
[12:27] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[12:27] <erUSUL> !easysource
[12:27] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[12:27] <Sktfeelsdapper> well in order to compile last-exit
[12:27] <rob> dpkg -d packagename.deb
[12:27] <THX-1138> !botsnack
[12:27] <ubotu> Yum!
[12:27] <rob> that will install a local deb
[12:27] <hastesaver> daurnimator, I use Ubuntu at home; I'm somewhere else, running Debian, without root :)
[12:27] <Sktfeelsdapper> but will it go to the right place?
[12:27] <Sktfeelsdapper> if i use dpkg -d?
[12:28] <Sktfeelsdapper> or do i have to do something else in order to get it to go right?
[12:28] <rob> s//-d//-i
[12:28] <grayscale> THX-1138, the drives are mounted np and when I click the Browse button in the Partitions tab, i get an error stating I dont have the proper permissions to view the partition
[12:28] <Sktfeelsdapper> !chmod
[12:28] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about chmod - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:28] <hastesaver> Sktfeelsdapper, it's usually not a good idea to compile anything, unless you're sure it's not there in any repo (or it's a program you wrote ;-))
[12:28] <Sktfeelsdapper> I can't find it in the repos
[12:28] <hastesaver> Sktfeelsdapper, ok, so dpkg -i will install the .deb
[12:28] <Sktfeelsdapper> it's a dbus-1 package i need to make last-exit-3 work.
[12:29] <Sktfeelsdapper> it will for sure or will i have to go into synaptic blah blah?
[12:29] <hastesaver> Sktfeelsdapper, at least, there is no other way to do it :-)
[12:29] <Sktfeelsdapper> but will it install it for real?
[12:29] <LookTJ> xchat doesn't blink like Konversation does
[12:29] <Sktfeelsdapper> or do i have to go into synaptic and mark it?
[12:29] <hastesaver> Sktfeelsdapper, try it and see. It's the only way to install a .deb, so ....
[12:29] <hastesaver> Sktfeelsdapper, it won't appear in synaptic
[12:30] <Sktfeelsdapper> then how will i know if it's installed?
[12:30] <unfknblvbl> !bitorrent
[12:30] <unfknblvbl> !torrent
[12:30] <hastesaver> Sktfeelsdapper, synaptic is for managing/downloading/installing the packages that *are* in the repos
[12:30] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about bitorrent - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:30] <ubotu> Torrent clients: Azureus (Java), BitTornado (Shell with python front-end), KTorrent (KDE/Qt) Bittorent faq: http://www.bittorrent.com/FAQ.html
[12:30] <THX-1138> grayscale - I don't know. check users and see if you r user has permissions for the /dev group???
[12:30] <hastesaver> Sktfeelsdapper, dpkg -i will exit without printing any errors :-)
[12:31] <hastesaver> LookTJ, what blinking? for what? when?
[12:31] <LookTJ> when a new message is in
[12:31] <LookTJ> when i'm looking on different window like firefox
[12:32] <whazilla> THX-1138 maybe dns trouble ?
[12:32] <hastesaver> LookTJ, oh, you can set that -- whether you want it to blink only for messages to you, or for all messages
[12:32] <LookTJ> oh
[12:32] <LookTJ> I uninstalled XChat anyways
[12:33] <hastesaver> LookTJ, yeah, anyway, it doesn't really matter :-)
[12:33] <grayscale> thank you anyway, im going to bed, i cant even see straight
[12:33] <grayscale> :o
[12:33] <LookTJ> haha
[12:34] <Sktfeelsdapper> Well last exit is looking for a certain 2 packages.
[12:34] <Sktfeelsdapper> That aren't in the repos.
[12:34] <Sktfeelsdapper> dbus-1
[12:34] <unfknblvbl> how do i figure out what port Bittorrent uses ?
[12:34] <Sktfeelsdapper> and dbus-glib something or other.
[12:34] <THX-1138> whazilla - possibly, can you see if dhcp is enabled. - still puzzled why you cant use you browser to see your router. - wrong port?
[12:34] <Sktfeelsdapper> And they don't show up in the repos.
[12:34] <cpk2> unfknblvbl: normally oyu tell it
[12:34] <hastesaver> Sktfeelsdapper, what's last exit, BTW?
[12:35] <Sktfeelsdapper> a last fm alike.
[12:35] <unfknblvbl> cpk2: how ?
[12:35] <Sktfeelsdapper> since i can't get stupid last fm to work.
[12:35] <unfknblvbl> i'm using the stadard bittorrent package for ubuntu
[12:35] <unfknblvbl> *standard
[12:35] <hastesaver> unfknblvbl, it's probably 6881
[12:35] <whazilla> THX-1138 wrong DNS
[12:36] <THX-1138> whazilla - okay.
[12:37] <THX-1138> unfknblvbl: netstat ?
[12:38] <micael_> hello
[12:38] <LookTJ> Hi
[12:38] <THX-1138> Hi mical
[12:38] <unfknblvbl> i try
[12:38] <Sktfeelsdapper> But i can't get this to work if i can't even compile it!
[12:38] <micael_> i have just installed Ubuntu 6.06
[12:38] <THX-1138> LookTJ - I did it again - sry micael
[12:38] <micael_> np THX
[12:38] <whazilla> THX-1138 how i force a gateway ... it don't wanne take ethO as gateway :$
[12:39] <micael_> i have some question
[12:39] <LookTJ> THX-1138, we're not perfect at all :P
[12:39] <THX-1138> whazilla - ifconfig
[12:39] <hastesaver> Sktfeelsdapper, why doesn't last.fm work?
[12:39] <LookTJ> I don't like GIMP
[12:40] <micael_> when i start a dvd totem is starting but it dont play the dvd so i did install kaffine
[12:40] <hastesaver> !dvd
[12:40] <ubotu> See http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html  Libdvdcss can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[12:40] <micael_> how do i do so kaffine start when i insert a dvd and not totem
[12:41] <LookTJ> use mplayer
[12:41] <hastesaver> micael_, does kaffine play DVDs?
[12:41] <LookTJ> or something
[12:41] <hastesaver> micael_, I mean, have you got DVD playback working?
[12:41] <micael_> yes kaffine plays dvd
[12:41] <THX-1138> whazilla - i usually install firestarter firewall easy, graphical. - else take the plunge iftab, iptables etc
[12:42] <LookTJ> I have firestarter
[12:42] <Jax-S179> can anyone help me real quick? I installed some applications from the add/remove list and now I can't find them. I checked under the application menu and it's submenu's but no luck
[12:43] <THX-1138> micael - right click on the file you want opened and the next time there will be an option to open that type with yuor favorite application.
[12:44] <LookTJ> im confused
[12:44] <LookTJ> Astroman: stop
[12:44] <LookTJ> lmao
[12:44] <THX-1138> mistaED - gee, the text suddenly got all fuzzy looking. what is that MistaED?
[12:45] <LookTJ> lol
[12:45] <micael_> ok thanks all for your help
[12:45] <LookTJ> xerxes=xerxas?
[12:45] <LookTJ> :S
[12:46] <THX-1138> micael - Windows users - linux community come back spend some time share what you know.
[12:46] <MistaED> :O?
[12:46] <THX-1138> MistED - nvm - Welcome to #ubuntu
[12:46] <MistaED> hehe, cheers
[12:46] <nmbooker> Jax-S179: Open a terminal and type killall -HUP gnome-panel
[12:46] <HabaKKuk> Hello guys
[12:47] <Jax-S179> thank you nmbooker
[12:47] <LookTJ> lol third mistake i seen, THX-1138
[12:47] <Jax-S179> I'll try that now
[12:47] <nmbooker> let me know if it works
[12:47] <LookTJ> you humor me
[12:47] <THX-1138> LookTJ - lol - I guess the liquid paper on screen isn't helping?
[12:48] <bionoid> Eek. Management wants me to create a "cyber-cae"  in which client computers require authentication to access the internet, and detailed reports on what users accessed what websites at what time. Anyone familiar with an existing solution for such privacy-invasion?
[12:48] <THX-1138> "White-Out"
[12:48] <bionoid> cyber-cafe, even.
[12:48] <techno_freak> hi all, I got a crash report when my firefox crashed, how to send/file it ?
[12:48] <whazilla> THX-1138 iptables --list doesn't show one ip ... is that normal ?
[12:49] <micael_> THX-1138 i will come back and help if i can
[12:49] <harisund> bionoid, I am not aware of any "software" that does that ... but there are ways you could achieve that anyway ..
[12:49] <THX-1138> bionoid - Cannonical offers proffessional support
[12:49] <THX-1138> !cannonical
[12:49] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about cannonical - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:49] <harisund> !canonical
[12:49] <ubotu> Canonical Ltd. is committed to the development, distribution and promotion of open source software products, and to providing tools and support to the open source community. It is the driving force behind the Ubuntu, Kubuntu, Xubuntu, and Edubuntu Operating Systems. Canonical's website is at http://www.canonical.com/
[12:49] <LookTJ> I think i'm gonna get in trouble
[12:49] <THX-1138> my spelling is awful.
[12:49] <whazilla> THX-1138 iptables --list doesn't show one ip ... is that normal ?
[12:50] <harisund> whazilla, iptables --list doesn't show one ip? What ip addresses does an iptables listing show anyway?
[12:50] <whazilla> never really used iptables
[12:50] <HabaKKuk> do you ppl know any software for making/mixing music for ubuntu ?
[12:50] <LookTJ> for staying up all night
[12:50] <THX-1138> bionoid: www.canonical.com/
[12:50] <nmbooker> Jax-S179: got your menu entries?
[12:50] <LookTJ> :S
[12:50] <bionoid> harisund: Yeah I realize it's just a matter of development, I've found several projects that can be of interest (nufw for example), will continue research, thanks
[12:50] <bionoid> THX-1138: Ok will have a look at that, cheers
[12:51] <Jax-S179> No I'm sorry it didn't work
[12:51] <LookTJ> anyone look at logs at all?
[12:51] <LookTJ> !logs
[12:51] <ubotu> Channel logs can be found at http://people.ubuntu.com/~fabbione/irclogs
[12:51] <harisund> bionoid, oh wow! I didn't know nufw existed. I just worked out things to my own extent sort of ... but cool.. thanks
[12:51] <nmbooker> Jax-S179: What did you install?  Some packages (helpfully :) dont provide menu entries.
[12:52] <Jax-S179> things such as kalarm
[12:52] <Jax-S179> also some network tools that came with ubuntu
[12:52] <HabaKKuk> please!!!
[12:52] <HabaKKuk> ;]
[12:52] <HabaKKuk> music makin soft
[12:52] <HabaKKuk> anyoneE?
[12:52] <HabaKKuk> got any ideas/
[12:52] <HabaKKuk> ?
[12:52] <Jax-S179> for instance, I clicked on applications then add/remove
[12:52] <LookTJ> no
[12:52] <Ash-Fox> Yes.
[12:52] <Jax-S179> i just installed everything that looked of intrest
[12:52] <xenoNfluX> HabaKKuk, try Ardour :)
[12:52] <Jax-S179> now I cant find any of it
[12:52] <LookTJ> is there rule on spam?
[12:52] <HabaKKuk> ok i will
[12:53] <HabaKKuk> if its not a joke
[12:53] <HabaKKuk> :P
[12:53] <cpk2> Jax-S179: do yuo remember the name? try typing the name in a terminal
[12:53] <xenoNfluX> HabaKKuk, I don't know of any good midi sequencers, but Ardour seems to be a rather powerful DAW sans midi sequencer
[12:53] <Jax-S179> ok, i'll try kalarm
[12:53] <Jax-S179> and you can just call me Jax to save time :-)
[12:54] <xenoNfluX> Jax, are you running GNOME?
[12:54] <HabaKKuk> xenoNfluX: could not find packGE
[12:54] <HabaKKuk> ;P
[12:54] <LookTJ> THX-138 you can call me TJ
[12:54] <xenoNfluX> hm, ardour should be in apt
[12:54] <xenoNfluX> I think that's how I installed it
[12:54] <HabaKKuk> it should but its not :P
[12:55] <xenoNfluX> do you have the universe/multiverse repositories set up?
[12:55] <HabaKKuk> yes
[12:55] <Madpilot> !info ardour
[12:55] <xenoNfluX> odd
[12:55] <Jax-S179> oh jesus, not to sound like a compete newb but I'm not sure
[12:55] <ubotu> Package ardour does not exist in any distro I know
[12:55] <Jax-S179> I believe so
[12:55] <HabaKKuk> .;
[12:55] <xenoNfluX> one sec
[12:55] <HabaKKuk> lol
[12:55] <osfameron> !easyubuntu
[12:55] <ubotu> EasyUbuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ ; for help and or discussions about EasyUbuntu please join #easyubuntu.
[12:55] <xenoNfluX> http://ardour.org/
[12:55] <xenoNfluX> you could always install it manually there :)
[12:55] <HabaKKuk> hehe
[12:55] <HabaKKuk> okay thanks mate
[12:55] <HabaKKuk> :)
[12:55] <nmbooker> Jax: KDE applications like Kalarm wont always show up in a GNOME menu for some reason.  Try restarting GNOME.  Failing that, you might have to use Alacarte to add the entries your self.  A pain I know.
[12:56] <xenoNfluX> music is just one of those things that Linux is unfortunately not ahead of the pack in
[12:56] <Jax-S179> ah, what I was doing is that I was going through the add/remove menu entries screen
[12:56] <xenoNfluX> I'm not saying you can't do it in Linux... its just more prudent to use another OS to do it, usually
[12:56] <cpk2> Jax-S179: its takes no more time to type jax then it does Jax-S179 (most irc clients tab complete names)
[12:56] <HabaKKuk> xenoNfluX: its young sistem still, let em just go ahead
[12:56] <HabaKKuk> ;)
[12:57] <xenoNfluX> hehe
[12:57] <BiSk-8> hello, is there any irc client that permits me to continue a file transfer.. for example my host disconnects and he comes back on and wants to continue. mIrc has it on windows but xchat2 doesnt... can any1 help?
[12:57] <nmbooker> cpk2: Thanks for that - didnt know.
[12:57] <xenoNfluX> I'd love to see Linux get ahead in this area, don't get me wrong