[20:09] <MetaMorfoziS> sry, so i want get that sync
[20:09] <JohnFlux> MetaMorfoziS: like, this is what my floppy drive has:  /dev/fd0  /media/floppy  auto  rw,noauto,user,sync  0 0
[20:10] <JohnFlux> MetaMorfoziS: the 'sync'  part means it will always make sure the files are copied fully etc
[20:10] <JohnFlux> MetaMorfoziS: hmm, although your usb devices won't be listed in /etc/fstab
[20:10] <MetaMorfoziS> JohnFlux > it's auto mounted
[20:11] <MetaMorfoziS> so i think that isn't in fstab...
[20:11] <JohnFlux> MetaMorfoziS: pmount has a --sync   command, but i wonder how to get hal to use that
[20:12] <RichardBH> sub[t]rnl - i dont suppose you know how to do it if there are no resolutions listed?
[20:12] <sub[t]rnl> pastbin your xorg.conf
[20:13] <andreas_> in rc.local, where sould i paste, befor or after the "exit 0"?
[20:13] <JohnFlux> MetaMorfoziS: /etc/hal/fdi/policy/preferences.fdi
[20:13] <JohnFlux> MetaMorfoziS: if you edit that file and uncomment the commented out section
[20:14] <JohnFlux> MetaMorfoziS: that will set sync for devices less than 16GB
[20:14] <andreas_> in rc.local, where sould i paste, befor or after the "exit 0"?
[20:14] <JohnFlux> andreas_: before
[20:14] <JohnFlux> andreas_: exit 0  is the last thing that it will do - that makes it exit
[20:15] <Eicca> I muted sounds from the taskbar and put the volume to 0% but why do I still hear sounds when I play?
[20:15] <MetaMorfoziS> thanks
[20:15] <andreas_> Thx JohnFlux:D
[20:15] <ChristianB> NickPresta: many thx to you again, I've fixed the logfile redirection and it works like a charm, now I have to test if it's working at boot time
[20:16] <ChristianB> btw: What's the best/prefered way to kill an application?
[20:16] <RichardBH> http://pastebin.com/m17f2210a
[20:16] <RichardBH> sub[t]rnl ^
[20:17] <sub[t]rnl> set resolutions with sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg
[20:18] <andreas_> !intelhdaudio
[20:18] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about intelhdaudio - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[20:19] <andreas_> !audio
[20:19] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[20:19] <Eicca> tän päivän pelit ei kuitenkaa vaadi ddr3sia yms
[20:19] <Eicca> I muted sounds from the taskbar and put the volume to 0% but why do I still hear sounds when I play?
[20:20] <RichardBH> sub[t]rnl thanks
[20:20] <MetaMorfoziS> !hal
[20:20] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about hal - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[20:20] <MetaMorfoziS> JohnFlux > it looks isn't working...
[20:21] <MetaMorfoziS> i have /etc/init.d/hal restart-ed, and i uncommented the first section that enables the sync and noatime (and owerwrited 1gb with 9)
[20:21] <dsa> !kth
[20:21] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kth - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[20:22] <MetaMorfoziS> And when i started to copy a 100mb sized file, then it copied ~ 10mb/sec , but when it reached 48% it stalled..
[20:22] <T_I_M> what does KDEinit could not luanch kdesu mean?
[20:23] <T_I_M> !kdesu
[20:23] <ubotu> In KDE, use « kdesudo <program> » (Gutsy) or « kdesu <program> » (Feisty and earlier) to run graphical applications with root privileges when you have to. Never just use "sudo"! (See http://psychocats.net/ubuntu/graphicalsudo to know why)
[20:25] <JohnFlux> MetaMorfoziS: is it still stalled?
[20:25] <JohnFlux> MetaMorfoziS: that's not good :-D
[20:26] <JohnFlux> MetaMorfoziS: check /var/log/messages
[20:28] <kiiz> hii
[20:28] <raph> hi, I can access my vista ntfs partition (read/write), but if I plug in my external hd and want to access its ntfs fs, I get the error msg "hal-storage-removable-mount-all-options refused uid 1000". I formated it with ntfs last week (before I reformated it, I could access it without problems and it was ntfs back then, too!!)
[20:29] <dsa> how do i send konversation to tray?
[20:30] <JohnFlux> dsa: just click the close button
[20:31] <kiiz> i cant play dvd with kubuntu.what lib do i need to make this possible
[20:31] <JohnFlux> !dvd | kiiz
[20:31] <ubotu> kiiz: For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at !Medibuntu or (for Feisty and earlier) http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[20:31] <sub[t]rnl> raph: try ntfs-3g /dev/sdc1(or whatever) /mnt/wherever -o force
[20:31] <ardchoille> kiiz: You need the libdvdcss2 package from the medibuntu repo
[20:32] <fff> how do i send konversation to tray?
[20:33] <ardchoille> fff: JohnFlux already answered that
[20:33] <fff> sorry my internet gave out
[20:33] <fff> can you please repeat it
[20:33] <JohnFlux> fff: just press the close button
[20:33] <fff> it just asks if i want to quit
[20:34] <JohnFlux> fff: settings->behavior->general   enable systray
[20:34] <ardchoille> fff: Do you have the konv tray icon in the tray right now?
[20:34] <fff> nope
[20:34] <fff> got it now
[20:34] <fff> thanx alot
[20:38] <raph> sub[t]rnl: thats crazy, i can mount it manually using the shell
[20:39] <raph> sub[t]rnl: dolphin still gives me the error
[20:42] <raph> hm, if i want to unmount my vista-partition (which is mounted automatically), I get the error "device to unmount is not in /media/.hal-mtab so it is not mounted by HAL"
[20:44] <raph> seems like i've found the answer
[20:44] <raph> thanks
[20:45] <sigma_> does anyone know of any alternatives to winff? i am trying to encode video's for my smartphone - 176 x 220 resolution and 200 frames / second and mpeg file type
[20:45] <kain89> hi
[20:45] <NickPresta> sigma_, mencoder and/or ffmpeg can do it, I'm sure. Check out `man ffmpeg` and `man mencoder`
[20:46] <sigma_> nickpresta: i have both but looking for a gui. the command line is rather complex
[20:47] <sub[t]rnl> hrm
[20:47] <sub[t]rnl> i converted video's for ipod using those two apps
[20:47] <sub[t]rnl> sec, let me find the script
[20:47] <sparr> "Processing triggers for libc6 ..."  <--  what is this and why does it happen after almost any package installation these days?
[20:48] <sigma_> subtrnl: yup that would really help
[20:48] <sub[t]rnl> http://thomer.com/howtos/mp4ize
[20:48] <sub[t]rnl> need ruby
[20:48] <ardchoille> sparr: That's normal for updates. I'm guessing the package manager code has changed.
[20:48] <sigma_> im checking it out
[20:48] <sparr> ardchoille: it wasnt normal before, and its very spammy now
[20:49] <gabbah> don't phones only support 3gp and megp4 with mpeg4-acc sound codec?
[20:49] <sparr> gabbah: phones support whatever their software supports.  dont blame us if you bought a phone that won't run mplayer.
[20:49] <sigma_> gabbah: i have a windows smartphone:)
[20:49] <gabbah> alright. i converted using ffmpeg to my sonyericsson w810
[20:50] <sigma_> windows yes i know but i still use a open source video app which plays everything, win media player on it is hopeless
[20:50] <gabbah> had to use mp4 with aac codec
[20:51] <sigma_> sub[t]rnl: how do i run the file?
[20:51] <sub[t]rnl> ruby file
[20:51] <sub[t]rnl> or chmod +x it then ./file
[20:52] <bludve> hello, there is a spanish channel on this server?
[20:53] <sparr> i cant seem to get over 3 weeks uptime  :(
[20:53] <sigma_> sub[t]rnl: did that, nothing happens, and theres no error message
[20:54] <sub[t]rnl> need to supply a file to the script
[20:54] <sub[t]rnl> example ./mp4ize myphone.avi
[20:54] <sigma_> sub{t}ml where bout in it?
[20:54] <sigma_> oh i see
[20:55] <sigma_> sub{t}ml: got a error - Unknown codec 'xvid'
[20:56] <NickPresta> sigma_, mencoder tells me that mpeg doesn't support 200 FPS
[20:56] <sub[t]rnl> so install your codec
[20:56] <sub[t]rnl> :p
[20:56] <sigma_> which package do i need?
[20:56] <sigma_> nickpresta: what does it support?
[20:57] <NickPresta> sigma_, actually, let me try something. I think I got it
[20:57] <sub[t]rnl> !codec
[20:57] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[20:59] <jelousbuddy> has anyone ever shot infrared fire/energy from eyes? do you know if i do it or learned how to do it? are my eyes dangerous for glasses (ex windows)?
[20:59]  * sub[t]rnl facepalms
[20:59] <sub[t]rnl> he's back
[20:59]  * ardchoille drags out his ignore list
[21:00] <sub[t]rnl> lol
[21:00] <rrbiz> what's the console command to delete a whole dir ?
[21:00] <sub[t]rnl> rm -rf bye/
[21:00] <ardchoille> rrbiz: rm -r dirname
[21:00] <rrbiz> k thnx
[21:00] <ardchoille> rrbiz: Be very careful with that is using sudo
[21:00] <ardchoille> s/is/if/
[21:00] <rrbiz> hmm -r or -rf ?
[21:01] <sub[t]rnl> -r is better
[21:01] <ardchoille> rrbiz: I've never seen an instance where "-f" is needed
[21:01] <rrbiz> also does that dump it in the trashbin ?
[21:01] <sigma_> sub{t}ml: i installed libxvidcore4_1.1.2-0.1ubuntu2_i386.deb and its still says missing codec
[21:01] <ardchoille> rrbiz: No, that deletes it forever
[21:01] <rrbiz> ok cool
[21:01] <ardchoille> sigma_: What are you trying to do?
[21:02] <NickPresta> sigma_, I don't know about your FPS issue, but this: `mencoder -of mpeg -ovc lavc -lavcopts vcodec=mpeg1video -oac copy -vf scale=220:176 input.avi -o output.mpg` converts the video to MPG with the specified resolution
[21:02] <sub[t]rnl> sigma_: w32codecs
[21:03] <rrbiz> nice i was trying to delete the usbHD dir from kdesu konq but wasn't working, so rm -r did it quick
[21:04] <sub[t]rnl> sigma_: try nabbing the -dev package of libxvid
[21:04] <sub[t]rnl> libxvidcore4-dev
[21:05] <jelousbuddy> how do i install kde on ubuntu? please
[21:05] <sigma_> ok lemme try all that, il report back
[21:05] <CheGuevara> sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[21:05] <sigma_> ardchoille:  i am trying to encode video's for my smartphone - 176 x 220 resolution and 200 frames / second and mpeg file type
[21:05] <ardchoille> sigma_: Ah, ok. mencoder is awesome for that
[21:07] <sigma_> nickpresta: that didnt work 2well. its creating a file larger than the original, lol
[21:08] <ardchoille> jelousbuddy:
[21:08] <ardchoille> Oops, sorry about that jelousbuddy
[21:08] <sigma_> but it is going at 272fps which is close enough
 508 mb O.O
[21:09] <CheGuevara> sounds about right :P
[21:10] <ardchoille> jelousbuddy: kubuntu-desktop is an empty meta package. it serves only to pull in everything needed for the kubuntu desktop
[21:10] <CheGuevara> yeah u can try installing individual kde packages to make it smaller if u have time for that
[21:10] <RogueJediX> How does one reload modules in linux?
[21:10] <sigma_> sigma: ok well the file it outputted only played the audio properly, not the video - it freeze frames
[21:11] <sigma_> RogueJediX: what do u mean?
[21:11] <CheGuevara> rmmod <module name>
[21:11] <CheGuevara> modprobe <module name>
[21:11] <RogueJediX> sigma_: Like when I've finished editing the /etc/modules file
[21:12] <jelousbuddy> ardchoille> sp how much do i download? i one kde not kubuntu, can i still use gnome after installing kde? how do i switch between them? does it require restarting to switch? would i be able to use and access my old files from kde?
[21:13] <ardchoille> jelousbuddy: You can use both gnome and kde apps in gnome or kde, they work in either desktop. you can switch desktops from the login screen. No, you don't need to reboot. Your personal files should be just fine.
[21:14] <ardchoille> jelousbuddy: I would just stay in kde and run kde and gnome apps, works fine
[21:14] <sub[t]rnl> sigma_: apt-get install liblame-dev libxvidcore4-dev libx264-dev libfaac-dev libfaad2-dev
[21:15] <sub[t]rnl> and ffmpeg if you havn't already, then run that script.  It converts and keeps aspect ratio's, adding the black bars if needed, etc..
[21:15] <sigma_> ok let me try that, thanks
 what is better kde or gnome?
 what is better kde or gnome?
 ignore that
[21:16] <ardchoille> jelousbuddy: I like kde better
[21:16] <jelousbuddy> ardchoille> why because it looks like windows?
[21:16] <ardchoille> jelousbuddy: But, I feel you should try them both and then decide which works best for you
[21:17] <ardchoille> jelousbuddy: Windows? Is that thing still around ;)
[21:17] <virnik> hi there, i got problem upon kde start
[21:17] <virnik> konqueror keeps crashing
[21:18] <virnik> after KDE start, Konkueror crash event shows up
[21:18] <virnik> can somebody help?
[21:18] <jelousbuddy> ardchoille> why would one work better than other?
[21:18] <ardchoille> jelousbuddy: Personal preference
[21:19] <jelousbuddy> ardchoille> is there other way to install kubuntu desktop other than terminal?
[21:19] <ardchoille> jelousbuddy: You can use adept if you like.
[21:20] <jelousbuddy> ardchoille> what is adept ?
[21:20] <CubaCola> hi
[21:20] <CubaCola> i like to lunch a apps each x seconds ....
[21:20] <ardchoille> jelousbuddy: No offense, but why are you asking all these newbie questions if you're in some non-newbie channels on freenode?
[21:21] <hydrogen> err
[21:21] <CubaCola> or lunch it again when it closed ..
[21:21] <CubaCola> how can i do that ?
[21:21] <hydrogen> how are you going to install the kubuntu desktop from adept when adept is part of the kubuntu desktop?
[21:21] <ardchoille> CubaCola: Write a bash script?
[21:21] <virnik> can somebody help me out of this? after logon, my screen is filled with konqueror crash event
[21:21] <virnik> and keeps crashing
[21:21] <CubaCola> ardchoille> yes!
[21:21] <CubaCola> wich cmd ?
[21:21] <ardchoille> hydrogen: Good question
[21:22] <ardchoille> CubaCola: That wold be more than one command. Perhaps grab the pid of the app, throw it into a variable and use a for or while loop to do what you want.
[21:23] <jelousbuddy> what would happen if there is a hidden camera in my room or your room?
[21:23] <ardchoille> !ot | jelousbuddy
[21:23] <ubotu> jelousbuddy: #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[21:23] <CubaCola> ...
[21:24] <thetick> !language | CubaCola
[21:24] <ubotu> CubaCola: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[21:24] <bioman> @CubaCola if a granularity of 1 miinute is acceptable, you may have a look at crontab
[21:24] <sigma_> il be back:)
[21:24] <jac0b> I am trying to get my sound to work
[21:25] <CubaCola> thetick>k thank you very much
[21:25] <CubaCola> thanks all
[21:25] <CubaCola> (:
[21:25] <jac0b> when I click the Test button it works but if I use amarok I get nothing
[21:26] <jac0b> Does anyone know how to correct this
[21:26] <jelousbuddy> are you stupid and is it cold and depressing outside?
[21:28] <bioman> @jac0b you may have to configure amarok, in order to set the correct sound engine
[21:28] <yurimxpxman> are there any free software pi calculators I could use to study the source code?
[21:29] <bioman> usually ALSA
[21:29] <jelousbuddy> is love depressing or how does it feel?
[21:29] <Lynoure> jelousbuddy: wrong channel?
[21:29] <Lynoure> jelousbuddy: I'll gladly give you my opinion on the topic on #kubuntu-offtopic :)
[21:31] <jac0b> bioman: that what I was thinking (ALSA) but nothing
[21:31] <jac0b> bioman: I just tried OSS and that worked thanks for the help
[21:31] <bioman> :)
[21:32] <jelousbuddy> any sexy girls/sexy women/sexy females here?
[21:32] <ardchoille> jelousbuddy: Please stop, you're being disruptive and disrespectful.
[21:33]  * hydrogen wonders why his .strigi is 20gigs
[21:34] <JohnFlux> hydrogen: haha
[21:34] <JohnFlux> hydrogen: welcome to strigi
[21:34] <ardchoille> hydrogen: lol
[21:34] <hydrogen> thats a quarter of my disk
[21:34] <JohnFlux> hydrogen: you were only going to waste the space
[21:34] <hydrogen> yes, but its *my* space to waste!
[21:34] <sub[t]rnl> lol
[21:34] <JohnFlux> hydrogen: how selfish
[21:34] <hydrogen> not strigi's
[21:35] <luquis> hola
[21:35] <hydrogen> I got it back though
[21:35] <hydrogen> don't you worry
[21:35] <Zabulus> ok, im back to try yet again, does anyone know of a fix to keep a usb mouse from freezing?
[21:35] <JohnFlux> be grateful for what strigi gave you :P
[21:35] <hydrogen> rm++
[21:35] <hydrogen> strigi needs to be taken out back and shot in the forehead
[21:35] <ardchoille> lol
[21:35] <hydrogen> that is all
[21:35] <JohnFlux> Zabulus: I have that - the mouse was broken
[21:35] <JohnFlux> Zabulus: I had to buy a new one
[21:35] <Zabulus> my mouse is fine
[21:35] <JohnFlux> of course the wife went and stole the new one, so now I'm make to the broken mouse :(
[21:36] <Zabulus> i have dual boot with win xp, the mouse has not had a single problem in xp
[21:37] <Zabulus> so it seems its a compatability issue or something
[21:38] <jelousbuddy> am i in danger just by existing and being seen by others?
[21:38] <JohnFlux> jelousbuddy: all existance is in danger
[21:39] <Zabulus> well, no fix, can anyone help me upgrade from feisty to gutsy without using a mouse?
[21:39] <JohnFlux> Zabulus: edit /etc/apt/sources.list   replace feisty with gutsy.  apt-get update; apt-get dist-upgrade
[21:40] <jelousbuddy> can i be repetitive please?
[21:40] <hydrogen> no
[21:40] <hydrogen> you can be on topic though
[21:41] <hydrogen> if you try really hard
[21:41] <ardchoille> JohnFlux: He's going to miss some apps that aren't in Feisty but are new to gutsy that way
[21:41] <JohnFlux> ardchoille: yeah probably
[21:41] <ardchoille> !upgrade
[21:41] <ubotu> For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[21:41] <hydrogen> you can't do that without a mouse though
[21:41] <hydrogen> unless you use tab a lot
[21:41] <hydrogen> though
[21:41] <hydrogen> last I checked, adept had horrible keyboard navigation
[21:41] <ardchoille> hydrogen: does the tab key not work with that?
[21:42] <Zabulus> yeah, it does
[21:42] <hydrogen> it has horrible everything..
[21:42] <ardchoille> hydrogen: Ah, yeah
[21:42] <jelousbuddy> why do i feel about ladies down there?
[21:42] <Zabulus> i have not been able to find a way to just get to that button to upgrade
[21:42] <Zabulus> skips right past it
[21:42] <virnik> can somebody know, why are my X server freezing every 2 minutes or so, for few seconds?
[21:42] <Zabulus> is there a way to control the mouse with the keyboard?
[21:43] <hydrogen> you must be using the demo version of kubuntu
[21:43] <ardchoille> Zabulus: yes
[21:43] <nick_> in konqueror......... my tab menu is on the bottom...... i have been unable to place my tab menu on the top
[21:43] <hydrogen> you need to buy the premium version to get freeze-free operation
[21:43] <jelousbuddy> how many of you re really ignoring me? do you actually do it just not see what i do/say next? thank you
[21:43] <Zabulus> ardchoille: how do i set that up?
[21:44] <ardchoille> Zabulus: kcontrol > Peripherals > Mouse > Mouse Navigation tab
[21:46] <nick_> in konqueror......... my tab menu is on the bottom...... i have been unable to place my tab menu on the top
[21:46] <hydrogen> nick_: don't repeat yourself
[21:46] <hydrogen> its rude
[21:46] <Zabulus> and where is kcontrol?
[21:46] <nick_> sorry, i thought people were irnoring me
[21:46] <ardchoille> Zabulus: alt+f2 , type in kcontrol
[21:47]  * hydrogen notes that gutsy crippled kcontrol
[21:47] <ardchoille> hydrogen: And it's completely gone in kde4
[21:47] <Zabulus> thank you
[21:47] <hydrogen> yep
[21:47] <hydrogen> but
[21:47] <hydrogen> I'm not concerned about kde4
[21:47] <ardchoille> hydrogen: But, I'll write my own version back in :)
[21:47] <hydrogen> I do not plan on using it
[21:47] <hydrogen> for a long time
[21:48] <Zabulus> hopefully i wont need kcontrol with gutsy...
[21:48] <Zabulus> i hope
[21:49] <Zabulus> i just want my mouse to work properly so i can actually use kubuntu
[21:50] <Zabulus> alright, bye
[21:50] <jelousbuddy> is everything OK/alright?
[21:52] <noobiezilla> funny question
[21:52] <noobiezilla> how would I modify the source code of gnibbles ??
[21:52] <noobiezilla> its a part of gnome-games pack and i'd like to mod it
[21:53] <jpatrick> noobiezilla: apt-get source gnibbles
[21:53] <noobiezilla> okay thanks!
[21:54] <jussi01> noobiezilla: remember, no sudo with that or the permissions will be messed up
[21:55] <noobiezilla> ok cool, thanks
[21:56] <Eicca> can someone tell some entertaining 2 player game (with one pc) that works on kubuntu? =)
[21:57] <noobiezilla> is that linux port of mario bros 2 player?
[21:57] <noobiezilla> if so that's not bad
[21:57] <noobiezilla> it's prob 2 player
[21:57] <Lynoure> Eicca: what kind of things normally entertain you? Even Frozen bubble is fun.
[22:02] <RogueJediX> Eicca: As Lynoure suggested, there's Frozen Bubble, Atomic Tanks, Lemmingball Z, etc. Quite a few, actually
[22:03] <noobiezilla> kbounce is a fun port of the old windows jezzball game.  it's more one player, but you could entertainingly compete
[22:05] <Eicca> RogueJediX: We've played frozen bubble
[22:05] <RogueJediX> Eicca: Okay, so you want something else? Any particular genre you enjoy?
[22:11] <noobiezilla> what is a .gnl extension?  i'm guessing its a type of code?  what editor will recognize it?  tia
[22:11] <tekstacy> 'lo all
[22:11] <noobiezilla> hey
[22:13] <tekstacy> If I put my hdd in a different machine, (both x86), will it still boot and detect the changes in hardware?
[22:13] <tekstacy> ie: can I build the software in my box and send it to go live in someone else's?
[22:14] <noobiezilla> my best guess is yes.  i should think the bios would handle it but....
[22:14] <tekstacy> I guess I may have to experiment
[22:14] <tekstacy> :)
[22:14] <noobiezilla> :)
[22:15] <Jack111> hi
[22:15] <tekstacy> hello
[22:15] <noobiezilla> btw that is a really good idea.  never thought of that.  i have a box that has no working inputs,,, that might be a way around that....
[22:15] <ubuntu__> i noticed the live cd of ubuntu has compiz enabled, but kubuntu doesn't seem to
[22:15] <ubuntu__> is there a way to enable it?
[22:16] <tekstacy> yes
[22:16] <tekstacy> Get the compiz package
[22:16] <jussi01> !compiz
[22:16] <ubotu> Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion
[22:16] <ubuntu__> thx
[22:17] <jussi01> ubuntu__: there you are
[22:17] <jussi01> :D
[22:17] <Jack111> i hvae to install access and excel for work, but there are different ways and howtos for wine e.g hhttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=372011 ir this ttp://appdb.winehq.org/appview.php?iVersionId=3214, so i am not really sure which way is best??
[22:17] <Jack111> whats easiest?
[22:18] <ubuntu__> also, my friends xp is in a really really bad state with virus issues.  I know clam av is available in linux.  I'm wondering is it possible to install clam av via the live cd and run a scan on his ntfs part?
[22:18] <miguelangel> please, in kvpn im trying to conect to my cisco vpn and ask me for a group password, what is?
[22:18] <jussi01> Jack111: easiest is to go buy crossover office
[22:19] <jussi01> ubuntu__: clamav is also available for windows
[22:19] <Jack111> jussi01: hmm i dont really wnat to spend so much money since its not too difficult to get it installed for linux
[22:20] <jussi01> Jack111: its only $40
[22:20] <Dresken> How the heck do you open a file as root?
[22:20] <jussi01> Dresken: what kind of file?
[22:20] <Dresken> just a directory
[22:20] <noobiezilla> you can right click it and under actions there will be an option
[22:20] <noobiezilla> to open as root
[22:20] <jussi01> Dresken: theres also an option in dolphin on the right
[22:20] <noobiezilla> or from the command line type sudo nano filename
[22:21] <tekstacy> jack111, I installed a virtual machine for those few things I couldn't get to run under wine
[22:21] <Dresken> Thanks ~_~
[22:21] <jussi01> :)
[22:21] <tekstacy> Little bit overkill though....
[22:21] <Jack111> tekstacy: hmm i have to admit that sounds pretty complicated?i am not too into that
[22:22] <tekstacy> :)   It was easier then using wine
[22:22] <Kite_DH> hi i need some help...my kubuntu doesnt boot anymore ... im on live cd rightnow
[22:22] <noobiezilla> jack111:  openoffice can read excel and save as excel files
[22:22] <noobiezilla> would that help?
[22:22] <jussi01> Kite_DH: what exactly did it do, and what did you do the last time it booted?
[22:23] <volker___> Kite_DH: is ther an Error with Grub?
[22:23] <Kite_DH> i dont know, it normally started usually
[22:24] <Jack111> noobiezilla: i know but i need to be able to work with excel for different reasons, its still different..ooffice suite is great though
[22:24] <Kite_DH> but now it stops b4 GRUB loads
[22:24] <jussi01> Kite_DH: does it give yoou a grub error?
[22:24] <Kite_DH> jussi01: nope
[22:24] <noobiezilla> jack111:  i figured that was too obvious and easy a solution :)........afraid i'm not much help with wine
[22:25] <jussi01> Kite_DH: have you changed _anything_ on your machine just before this happened?
[22:27] <Jack111> jussi01: would i still need to buy the office suite as such, the crossover is just the compatibility layer?
[22:27] <Jack111> otherwise very cheap..lol
[22:27] <Lynoure> When is the next HugDay?
[22:27] <jussi01> Jack111: correcyt
[22:27] <tekstacy> Kite_DH, try letting it try to boot, then when it stops, try [ctrl]-[alt]-F1
[22:27] <RichardBH> hi - ive set up a folder to be shared on kubuntu, and i can see the linux box in the workgroup from windows, but when i click it it asks for a username/password - what do i give it?
[22:28] <jussi01> RichardBH: your login user and pass
[22:28] <Level15> XD
[22:29] <jussi01> Level15: ?
[22:29] <bjwebb_> why is compiz so crashy all of a sudden?
[22:29] <RichardBH> jussi01 - the main account on the kubuntu machines? that doesnt seem to work
[22:30] <Level15> jussi01: yeah?
[22:30] <jussi01> RichardBH: the account you set it up on the kubuntu machine with.
[22:30] <RichardBH> hmm - that isnt working
[22:30] <jussi01> RichardBH: have you tried it blank?
[22:31] <Level15> RichardBH: how did you set up the shared folder on the linux box?
[22:31] <Kite_DH> tekstacy: and whats next after ctrl+alt+f1
[22:31] <deuryte> .
[22:31] <deuryte> hurry...no waiting.
[22:31] <RichardBH> Level15 - installed samba, used dolphin to find the folder, right click, properties, share, click shared
[22:32] <tekstacy> well, it may give you a text login, if it does, log in and run sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[22:32] <RichardBH> jussi01 - cant click ok until its got a username and password
[22:32] <bjwebb_> anyone know why compiz might have become crashy recently?
[22:32] <RichardBH> sorry, until its got a username
[22:32] <Level15> RichardBH: I'd be surprised if it worked so easily
[22:32] <tekstacy> btdt several times trying to get my monitor "just" right
[22:32] <volker___> bye
[22:33] <RichardBH> Level15- lol
[22:35] <Level15> RichardBH: you have to set some smb username and pass, dunno if dolphin does that
[22:35] <ultracool> what is violent and threatening behavior? can jerking movement a fidgeting around counts?
[22:36] <tekstacy> ultracool, wtf?
[22:37] <RichardBH> Level15 - interestingly, i can access the share through the samba shares icon on the kubuntu machine
[22:37] <ultracool> tekstacy> why you say wtf and when i say why you say does it sound bad or threatening or loud? can you see differences?
[22:38] <tekstacy> ok
[22:38] <tekstacy> anyway, goodnight all
[22:39] <bjwebb_> have there been any recent updates, in gutsy, to compiz or xorg?
[22:39] <jussi01> bjwebb_: if there have, you would know, as you would have installed them.
[22:40] <bjwebb_> i don't always look at what it is im updating
[22:40] <jussi01> bjwebb_: you should
[22:40] <jussi01> bjwebb_: there has been some updates if i remember correctly.
[22:40] <bjwebb_> jussi01: i kindof glance but i forget
[22:42] <bjwebb_> jussi01: how can i find out what updates ive done recently
[22:42] <bjwebb_> wait a min, i should look at apt log
[22:43] <iceman_> if anybody can help me have a look at this question
[22:43] <iceman_> https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/19141
[22:43] <nick_> for some reason konquer puts my tabs on the bottom instead of the top............... how do i fix this
[22:45] <Jack111> jussi01: do you know if the crossover office already covers excel 2007? cos it doenst say on the webpage
[22:45] <jussi01> Jack111: im not sure. there should ba a compatibility database there
[22:48] <AmyRose> Does anyone know if there's a way to force Skype to use a particular Qt 4 style? I used qtconfig-qt4 to select QtCurve, but it seems to force Cleanlooks
[22:48] <adamonline45> Are there any GIMP project files around for the KDE logo?
[22:48] <AmyRose> All other Qt 4 programs are using QtCurve as they're supposed to
[22:48]  * genii sips a coffee
[22:49] <Jack111> jussi01: no it doesnt, at least not mentioned, but thanks http://www.codeweavers.com/compatibility/browse/name/
[22:50] <jussi01> Jack111: it doesnt : http://www.codeweavers.com/compatibility/browse/group/?app_id=2854
[22:51] <Jack111> thanks jussi01 for making it clear!
[22:51] <Jack111> i think its still a good idea to get, will look into it!
[22:51] <jussi01> Jack111: use the search on the left - it helps lots :D
[22:51] <Jack111> lol
[22:51] <Jack111> yep
[22:52] <bjwebb> jussi01: do you think me changing color depth in xorg.conf could cause the crashiness?
[22:52] <iceman_> hello, can someone help me,
[22:52] <iceman_> So i am prepareing to set-up ubuntu (non-ppc) server...i think 6.06. The purpose is to setup an real time streaming server (rtss) and also to manage all files on one location. So i need the server kinda like this if i am describing it correctly. Part of the server access the internet for RTSS purposes. The other part is for students at a school to login to. The room has 5-7 workstations with 3 computers at each. each computer has to be able to log in to
[22:52] <iceman_> their work station. (for example if 3 of us are @ workstation 3 we each need to be able to access the server with the same users & passwords). Also there are programs (like Garage Band or final cut) that need to be accessed per workstation but they are mac specific. so how do I handle that as well. Please give me the full setup (eg what to install how to do it) and what equipment is recomended.
[22:52] <iceman_> PS the box was originally WIN2k but now contains formated blank hard drive. Also has network card pre-installed. I promise to follow each direction carefully.
[22:53] <sstchur> If I have a samba share, is there a way I can map it so that something like ~/myshare points to that samba share?
[22:53] <sstchur> to make that automatically happen?
[22:55] <bjwebb_> i have a feeling my xorg.conf might be in a  messy state
[22:55] <bjwebb_> is there a way to start from scratch
[22:56] <bjwebb_> a dpkg-reconfigure command or something
[22:56] <bjwebb_> !reconfigure xorg
[22:56] <bjwebb_> !reconfigurexorg
[22:56] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about reconfigurexorg - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[22:56] <gerogehehe> can i use compiz fusion on kde?
[22:57] <bjwebb_> gerogehehe: yeah
[22:57] <genii> gerogehehe: Some video cards work beter than others, but yes.
[22:57] <iceman_> is anybody going to help me with my issue..i meanif no one can help say so..but i know alot o you are smart long tine linux users
[22:57] <iceman_> plz i beg of oyu for your help
[22:57] <iceman_> you can check out my question here https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/19501
[22:58] <justin_> what is your ussue?
[22:58] <iceman_> its an ubuntu server issue..the full question is at the address
[22:58] <lwizardl> hi
[22:58] <bjwebb_> justin_: how to i make xorg.conf again (reconfigure?
[22:58] <iceman_> but basically i need to set up a server that does RSS and also workstation stuff
[22:58] <lwizardl> I have a hfs+ partition mounted in 7.10 and was wondering if there is a way to turn off journalizing from within linux?
[22:59] <gerogehehe> <bjweb genii> how do i enable it on kubuntu?
[22:59] <bjwebb_> gerogehehe: its not installed by default, so you need to install it first
[23:00] <deuryte> Yeeeeeehaw!
[23:00] <jussi01> bjwebb_: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[23:00] <jussi01> deuryte: ?
[23:00] <bjwebb_> ah, i thought it was something like that
[23:00] <deuryte> vista is now adjar.
[23:00] <bjwebb_> couldn't remeber exactly what
[23:00] <iceman_> justin, u get that?
[23:00] <ShawnRisk> I am not able to load the Monitor & Display module in the System Settings. Any ideas how to fix this?
[23:01] <genii> gerogehehe: First ensure you have no pending updates. Then that the latest video driver for your card is in place. Then to install compiz and the configuration manager
[23:01] <genii> !compiz
[23:01] <ubotu> Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion
[23:01] <genii> gerogehehe: Intel video generally needs no tweaks. ATI cards often need xgl disabled. Nvidia offhand I dunno
[23:04] <iceman_> So i am prepareing to set-up ubuntu (non-ppc) server...i think 6.06. The purpose is to setup an real time streaming server (rtss) and also to manage all files on one location. So i need the server kinda like this if i am describing it correctly. Part of the server access the internet for RTSS purposes. The other part is for students at a school to login to. The room has 5-7 workstations with 3 computers at each. each computer has to be able to log in to
[23:04] <iceman_> their work station. (for example if 3 of us are @ workstation 3 we each need to be able to access the server with the same users & passwords). Also there are programs (like Garage Band or final cut) that need to be accessed per workstation but they are mac specific. so how do I handle that as well. Please give me the full setup (eg what to install how to do it) and what equipment is recomended.
[23:04] <iceman_> PS the box was originally WIN2k but now contains formated blank hard drive. Also has network card pre-installed. I promise to follow each direction carefully.
[23:06]  * genii wonders if workstation in this case means hub/switch
[23:06] <iceman_> no
[23:07] <iceman_> workstation as in those sets of computers.....every computer in that room is already connected to one switch
[23:08] <ShawnRisk> any ideas?
[23:08] <iceman_> genii, does that help you
[23:09] <matt_____> when i hit alt+spacebar to bring up katapult, if there is a program open, such as firefox, even if it is in the foreground, it brings it to focus. How can i stop this?
[23:09] <matt_____> anyone even understand me?
[23:10] <iceman_> i understand however i can help you srry
[23:10] <genii> iceman_: It clarifies a bit. So the server streams to the internet, holds shared files
[23:10] <matt_____> iceman_: talking to e?
[23:10] <AmyRose> matt_____: I am not sure I understand you.
[23:10] <iceman_> Matt yes and genni yes
[23:10] <iceman_> genii*
[23:11] <matt_____> AmyRose: I'll have all windows minimized to taskbar, then i'll bring up katapult (launcher) with alt+spacebar, but when i do this, katapult comes up, but also any windows that are minized, well they are maximized
[23:12] <stupidbitch> i got a adept notifying, what is it? how can i get rid of it :S thank you
[23:12] <AmyRose> !ohmy | stupidbitch
[23:12] <ubotu> stupidbitch: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[23:13] <AmyRose> matt_____: Does this happen when the windows are not all minimized to the taskbar?
[23:13] <iceman_> lol thats funny her usr is getting her in trouble
[23:13] <genii> iceman_: So these machines on the network are running some Mac OS ?
[23:13] <AmyRose> iceman_: :D
[23:13] <stupidbitch> adept notifyer
[23:13] <iceman_> yesh OS X tiger i think...its the one before leporad
[23:13] <stupidbitch> adept notifier
[23:14] <matt_____> AmyRose: well...what it does, if all windows are minimized, after alt+spacebar, it brings up katapult, and also brings up the last window that was maximized. thats it. so if you have something maximized, nothing but katapult pops up
[23:15] <matt_____> AmyRose: and its not just the alt-spacebar combination, its anything i set it too
[23:16] <norman> is there anybody running gusyt with printer sharing working
[23:16] <AmyRose> matt_____: I just tried it myself and Katapult is still on top for me, is that what happens to you too?
[23:16] <iceman_> genii, yesh OS X tiger i think...its the one before leporad
[23:16] <matt_____> AmyRose: it's on top, but it maximizes a window as well. i can see katapult, but the window get maximized from the taskbar
[23:17] <stupidbitch> how do i move windows to get wobbly  effect?
[23:17] <matt_____> AmyRose: just a minor annoyance, that's all
[23:19] <maduser> I can't get xsnow to work
[23:19] <maduser> In compiz its looks really messed up and in kwin it does not appear at all
[23:20] <genii> iceman_: Using either NFS or Samba seems to me the best solution in this case. All OS X have builtin smb client for instance. On the server if the login name will be the same for all machines this simplifies access. NFS would be the more native type solution.
[23:20] <varaonaid> hello, i just upgraded from feisty to gutsy and everything went ok except for firefox.  my fonts are all huge - and just wrong.
[23:20] <varaonaid> both in menus and pages
[23:20] <varaonaid> pages aren't rendering as they should be.
[23:20] <iceman_> ok...so then the question what type of server do i install for RTSS and sharing filess...
[23:20] <adamonline45> Does anyone have a Kubuntu-logo GIMP project file?
[23:21] <usubnutlksjdfljk> hi from the Ozark LInux Users Group
[23:21] <varaonaid> i've tried all the options in system settings>appearance>fonts and it doesn't seem to matter what the settings are even changing the GTK ones.
[23:21] <usubnutlksjdfljk> There are 6 of us here.
[23:21] <varaonaid> any ideas how to fix or get the info on how to fix?
[23:22] <NickPresta> varaonaid, have you set the GTK styles to use the QT styles?
[23:22] <varaonaid> NickPresta: yes, I did
[23:23] <AmyRose> matt_____: Well, I have had to get into the habit of mimizing all, then clicking twice on one of the taskbar entries, so it doesn't do that.
[23:23] <iceman_> genii, what is the best installation type to support both the RTSS and sharing files...
[23:23] <AmyRose> matt_____: Not double-clicking--two slow clickas
[23:23] <genii> iceman_: For the filesharing part I would recommend currently samba for this application. So on the server to make sure samba server is installed. For the real time streaming stuff it depends on what you are streaming and if from the server hard drive or some machine inside the network, etc
[23:23] <AmyRose> clicks*
[23:23] <iceman_> well the drive is big enough but its just music that its streaming
[23:24] <iceman_> genii, well the drive is big enough but its just music that its streaming
[23:24] <genii> iceman_: There is no integrated package which is something like networkserver-rtss install :) They need to be considered as two separate issues
[23:24] <john-angel> how do you get themes to install?
[23:25] <iceman_> genii, understood so are you saying i would have to install ubuntu server twice on 2 diffrent hard drive? i don't understand
[23:25] <genii> iceman_: For streaming music you can use the program ICES or ICES2 .....
[23:26] <iceman_> genii, ooook thank
[23:26] <jembouge> john-angel: kdelook.org
[23:27] <genii> iceman_: No, not 2 different server installations etc. But within the operating system are smaller programs which are specific programs to handle something like webserving (apache2) windows networking (samba) music serving (ices/ices2)  network file sharing (nfs) and so on like this
[23:27] <john-angel> already tryed all things kdm man will not open themes
[23:29] <genii> !info fluendo
[23:29] <ubotu> Package fluendo does not exist in gutsy
[23:30] <genii> !info flumotion
[23:30] <ubotu> flumotion: Fluendo Streaming Server - manager, worker and admin. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.4.2-2 (gutsy), package size 732 kB, installed size 3976 kB
[23:30] <genii> !info ices2
[23:30] <ubotu> ices2: Ogg Vorbis streaming source for Icecast 2. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.0.1-5 (gutsy), package size 54 kB, installed size 248 kB
[23:30] <genii> etc
[23:37] <Jack111> hi
[23:37] <Minataku> Heya, genii
[23:37] <iceman_> genii, kinda quick question. there are to accounts, the root and a regular usr that i have. my problem is 1 the root can login from another account to run things like adept and 2 kmix wont work properly and is muted on the non root account
[23:38] <Jack111> can soemone help?when i do su - it tells me authentication failure, so my sudo login doesnt work, but i didnt set up a specific su -  password, afaik
[23:38] <Dr_willis> Jack111,  use sudo not su -
[23:39]  * genii slides Minataku a coffee
[23:39]  * Minataku drinks then meows
[23:39] <Minataku> lol
[23:39] <Minataku> What's up?
[23:39] <Minataku> Hi, Dr_Willis :D
[23:39] <Dr_willis> pizza time
[23:39] <Jack111> Dr_willis: i was just trying to do this:http://appdb.winehq.org/appview.php?iVersionId=3214
[23:39] <Dr_willis> freezing rain here also
[23:40] <Jack111> Dr_willis: how is that with sudo?
[23:40] <Dr_willis> no idea - i cant click on your link.. :)
[23:40] <genii> iceman_: Admin things like installing programs need special privelege. The first user in ubuntu that is made has this privelege
[23:40] <Minataku> Mmmmm. Pizza and freezing rain.
[23:40] <genii> sudo
[23:41] <Dr_willis> i dont even see where su - or sudo are being ised im at that site
[23:42] <genii> Weird. I'm also eating pizza, waiting for Toronto/Boston hockey game
[23:43] <Dragnslcr> You mean it'll actually be a game?
[23:43] <genii> iceman_: kmix issue exists on root also or just non root user?
[23:43] <Jack111> Dr_willis:  i was just trying to install a crossover trial thing, and it asks to do su - , then sh install-crossover-standard-demo-6.2.0.sh, but it tells me it cannot find the file, so i thought i have to use sh - instead of sudo?
[23:43] <genii> Dragnslcr: Bah :)
[23:43] <iceman_> genii, just non root
[23:44] <Dr_willis> that is saying badly then that you need to run it as root
[23:44] <Dragnslcr> genii- sorry, cynical Boston fan here
[23:44] <Dr_willis> sudo sh watever.sh
[23:44] <genii> iceman_: Then seems like some permissions problem in running the mixer or such. Perhaps another issue however. Sound debugging is not one of my strengths
[23:45] <genii> Dragnslcr: Cynical Leafs fan here
[23:45] <iceman_> genii, i c ok..thansk for your help then
[23:46] <Dragnslcr> genii- heh, I'm just impressed that Boston isn't in last place this year
[23:46]  * genii steals a slice of Minataku's pizza
[23:46] <Minataku> ?
[23:46] <Minataku> I had lazagna
[23:46] <Minataku> lol
[23:46] <Jack111> Dr_willis: http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/m66d247e1 thats where it said that..well, what did i do wrong when i downloaded and unpacked it with dpkg -i, then it says it cannot find the  installation file if i do sh ...sh?
[23:46] <genii> iceman_: Searching google for help on setting up an ices or ices2 server and for samba setups on ubuntu may be useful to you
[23:47] <Jack111> Dr_willis: sorry, it says it cannot open ...
[23:47]  * genii steals a corner piece of Minataku's lasagna then
[23:47] <smooker> how can i get Windows Mplayer for firefox working under kubuntu ?
[23:47] <Jack111> Dr_willis: sh: Can't open install-crossover-standard-demo-6.2.0.sh
[23:48] <Dr_willis> unpacked it ? -  sudo dpkg -i Whatever.deb   INSTALLS somthing...
[23:48] <user1> how to fuck riaa etc and install dvd support
[23:48]  * genii tries not to think about wndows version of mplayer for windows version of firefox working under wine
[23:48] <genii> !ohmy | user1
[23:48] <ubotu> user1: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[23:48] <lounge> Automatix?
[23:48] <Dr_willis> Jack111,  you could just do a 'sudo -s' then run sh whteverver.sh
[23:48] <Minataku> lol
[23:48] <neville> Lol
[23:48] <neville> x.x;
[23:48] <Dr_willis> automatix is  best at *$*@&@@ up your own system.
[23:49] <lounge> :o(
[23:49] <genii> !dvd
[23:49] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at !Medibuntu or (for Feisty and earlier) http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[23:49] <Xcell> ya Auto matix stinks.
[23:49] <Jack111> Dr_willis: sorry i meant  that , i tried dpkg, because it said it couldnt open it, now it still doesnt work, so i tried all again with sh..
[23:49] <smooker> if i cant use WMP for Firefox under Linux i cant watch Online TV!! at utv.bg!!!
[23:50] <Dr_willis> Jack111,  i think you have managed to totallly confuse everyone and everything. :)
[23:50] <Jack111> Dr_willis:lol..being good at that
[23:50] <Jack111> Dr_willis: i think i remove all and give a fresh try with sudo -s
[23:52] <rignes> Are there any issues that would be causes by uninstalling Dolphin?
[23:52] <genii> smooker: kmplayer for standalone, mozilla-mplayer for linux firefox player
[23:52] <Jack111> Dr_willis: oh, it worked fine with dpkg_i,i just was too stupid to find it in the menu, cos it puts itself in a completely new category, not in office applications...
[23:52] <Dr_willis> rignes,  you could just set konqueror as the default file manager and leave dolphin installed.
[23:53] <rignes> Dr_willis: How do you do that?
[23:53] <Dr_willis> its FAQ time!
[23:53] <Dr_willis> !dolphin
[23:53] <ubotu> Dolphin, or more properly D3lphin, is the new default file manager for Kubuntu 7.10 Gutsy Gibbon. If you would like to make Konqueror your default file manager again, go to Konqueror - Settings menu - Configure Konqueror - File Associations and change the association for inode/directory and inode/system_directory to Konqueror at the top rather than Dolphin.
[23:53] <dreamcoder> can someone please tell me how to enable compiz and als change the file manager to a diff one other than dolphin thanks
[23:53] <Dr_willis> its amazing easy :)
[23:53] <rrbiz> is there tool to restore grub with a dual partition for kubuntu and xp ?
[23:53] <rignes> Nice, thanks.
[23:53] <lounge> :o
[23:55] <jussi01> !compiz > dreamcoder
[23:55] <dreamcoder> cheers
[23:56] <rignes> Oh, speaking of Compiz.  Has anyone has an issue with loosing their window decorations when using ALT-TAB?
[23:56] <jussi01> :D
[23:56] <neville> Just
[23:56] <neville> Press Alt+F2
[23:56] <neville> Then type
[23:56] <neville> Kwin --replace
[23:56] <smooker> kmplayer doesnt work MAN JUST TRY utv.bg and try all players i tryed it not work!!
[23:56] <neville> Then to switch back to Compiz, compiz --replace
[23:56] <neville> Fixes it right up
[23:57] <Dr_willis> then just remove compiz :)  and get back to work!
[23:57] <rignes> The trouble is, it shouldn't need fixing.  It's not consistent but frequent enough to be terribly annoying.
[23:57] <neville> You know
[23:57] <neville> It's still
[23:58] <neville> Very very early release
[23:58] <rignes> I removed compiz for now.
[23:58] <neville> Bugs and stuffups are a given =)
[23:58] <rignes> Yeah, it's not important enough to fight with.
[23:58] <Dr_willis> enable compiz.. to show off.. then disable it to work. :)
[23:58] <Dr_willis> Theres a few compiz features i like.. but only a few
[23:58] <neville> Yeah
[23:58] <neville> Pretty much
[23:58] <user1> !medibuntu
[23:58] <ubotu> medibuntu is a repository of packages that cannot be included into the Ubuntu distribution for legal reasons - See http://www.medibuntu.org
[23:58] <genii> Dr_willis: Thats what I do, toggle it
[23:58] <rignes> I was just hoping to have my desktop all pimped out so I can show my boss how much better it looks than the Aero Vista interface he gets all hot over.
[23:59] <neville> That's fine, just don't Alt+Tab =]
[23:59] <Dr_willis> Tell him that 'theme/look/ obession is so.. 2007' its all about the  Mouse Cursor now!
[23:59] <neville> Hahaha


[20:36] <mup> Issue operator#917 opened: Harness filesystem mock for machine charms? <Created by sed-i> <https://github.com/canonical/operator/issues/917>


[05:07] <theShirbiny> Morning everyone :)
[06:04] <Kilos> helloooo africa
[06:05] <CraigZim> hellooooo Kilos
[08:34] <elacheche> Morning folks! Kilos theShirbiny CraigZim Naeil I hope your in good helth friends :)
[08:47] <Kilos> yip ty
[10:10] <Naeil> Hello elacheche Kilos and others
[10:34] <elacheche> theShirbiny: Good to read → GOOGLE'S "DIRECTOR OF ENGINEERING" Q&A TEST http://www.gwan.com/blog/20160405.html
[10:39] <Kilos> hi Naeil
[11:02] <Naeil> Kilos, \o/ how are you
[11:16] <ariabbas> .
[11:25] <Kilos> im ok ty Naeil and you?
[12:09] <Naeil> okay too ty Kilos :D
[13:57] <theShirbiny> Thanks elacheche :)
[13:58] <theShirbiny> somebody posted it the other day on #reddit-sysadmin
[13:58] <theShirbiny> shoking
[16:28] <elacheche> yep


[00:01] <bigjools> is it my imagination or does http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/saucy/main/uefi/ not have any checksum files...
[00:04] <wgrant> bigjools: uefi custom uploads are only there for secure boot signing
[00:04] <bigjools> I know ...
[00:04] <wgrant> So for security purposes the checksums aren't necessary
[00:06] <wgrant> Does MAAS need to reliably sync them?
[00:06] <bigjools> yes
[00:06] <wgrant> We could add an index if someone actually has a valid use for it, I suppose.
[00:07] <bigjools> we verify other boot-related files that are downloaded from there
[00:07] <bigjools> seems odd that they are not checksummed too
[00:08] <wgrant> We wanted the initial implementation to be as small as possible while still being functional, in case the format needed changes. If we'd added an index at the start, things would have relied on it and it would have been impossible to fix a mistake later. But now we know that what we have works, so it may be more reasonable to add it.
[00:09] <bigjools> ok
[00:10] <bigjools> maas needs to netboot uefi systems so there's a patch going into maas trusty RSN
[00:11] <wgrant> Can you file a bug? We'll want to discuss it with Foundations.
[00:19] <bigjools> sure
[00:24] <bigjools> https://bugs.launchpad.net/launchpad/+bug/1285919
[00:24] <_mup_> Bug #1285919: uefi archive files don't have signed checksums <Launchpad itself:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1285919>
[00:27] <wgrant> cjwatson: Did you put much thought into this when you did the initial implementation?
[10:14] <cjwatson> bigjools: Why does MAAS need to look in that directory at all?  It's mainly there so that we can fetch from it in the grub2-signed source package's build process, which bundles the result into a .deb.
[10:15] <cjwatson> bigjools: Any code outside of those implementation details should be using the .debs.
[10:15] <cjwatson> (Which isn't to say we shouldn't establish an index; but you should not be using it in MAAS anyway ...)
[10:16] <cjwatson> wgrant: ^-