[18:02] <ezrafree> in Software Center the description for Empathy says it supports facebook chat, but now i've installed it and it only offers two kinds of chat protocols to add. any thoughts?
[18:02] <dury> Trek: can't see it in bios that drive
[18:02] <Trek> then the system isn't detecting it at all
[18:02] <Trek> what type of drive, dury?
[18:02] <sebsebseb> ezrafree: you need to install plugin
[18:02] <dury> sata
[18:03] <Jack_Smirnoff> trek be aware he is mixing ide and sata drives
[18:03] <sebsebseb> ezrafree: or the Facebook IM for Pidgin
[18:03] <ezrafree> sebsebseb: ahh okay, thanks
[18:03] <Trek> Jack_Smirnoff: I do that with my Desktop, it works perfectly.  :P
[18:03] <sebsebseb> ezrafree: np
[18:03] <Trek> dury, is SATA activated in BIOS?
[18:03] <Jack_Smirnoff> Trek it CAN be an issue.. I have dont it myself
[18:03] <shubbar> Jack_Smirnoff, still cannot play after installing medibuntu and libcss2. I get the menu of the dvd but then "error, could not read from the source"
[18:03] <ezrafree> sebsebseb: i normally use pidgin, but have had problems with the pidgin plugin for it. can i install the pidgin plugin for facebook manually even though i don't see it in the software center?
[18:03] <candy> Jack_Smirnoff, but it wont open like that
[18:03] <dury> I have to disconnect the ide drive then it boots with sata
[18:03] <sebsebseb> ezrafree: I think it still uses the Facebook IM plugin, I read before that it will use the Pidgin one
[18:04] <Plegee> Ubuntu or fedora?
[18:04] <candy> Jack_Smirnoff, i have many files saved in that format which i saved when i worked in win, now i wanna work on it in ubuntu and edit it
[18:04] <Jack_Smirnoff> candy I cant help with a file type I have not used.  If you cant open it in the program that wrote it in a windows machine then you have other problems
[18:04] <Trek> dury: are you able to change the boot order in BIOS?  or are you able to select what drive to boot to at the BIOS screen?
[18:05] <ezrafree> what's the best way to install a .deb?
[18:05] <Jack_Smirnoff> ezrafree double click it
[18:05] <sebsebseb> ezrafree: from the repo?
[18:05] <edeca> ezrafree: Using aptitude/apt-get, generally.  But you can use dpkg or double click
[18:05] <ezrafree> Jack_Smirnoff: when i click it asks me to either save or open with
[18:05] <blakkheim> ezrafree: sudo dpkg -i file.deb
[18:05] <lungan> If I whanna do a simple script which runs sudo, and then goes into a specified folder, how do I do?
[18:05] <`mOOse`> inkscape's supposed to read/write .cdr formats though
[18:05] <Trek> dury, I spoke with one of my tech friends, it SHOULD be able to detect SATA, but you have to change the drive boot orders to boot to SATA first if that's your plan
[18:06] <ezrafree> thanks blakkheim, i'll save it and use the command
[18:06] <edeca> lungan: Write a script, use cd ?
[18:06] <Jack_Smirnoff> ezrafree have you already saved it to your desktop?
[18:06] <ezrafree> Jack_Smirnoff: not yet no
[18:06] <dury> Trek: check all bios something extrange in it
[18:06] <ezrafree> could i use a command to Open With?
[18:06] <lungan> edeca, I never wrote a script before
[18:06] <bksst> I want to thank all the people in here without questions helping those that do. A representation of the good humans can do.
[18:06] <Jack_Smirnoff> ezrafree start with that.
[18:06] <edeca> lungan: Google "basic bash scripts" then
[18:06] <Trek> what's strange with it\, dury?
[18:06] <ezrafree> jack10: ok, will do, thanks
[18:06] <sebsebseb> candy: With enough RAM and such you can virtual machine Windows for the program, also the program might work under Wine.
[18:06] <edeca> lungan: A script is just a bunch of commands in a file :)
[18:07] <militant1> is there a way to stop 70-persistent-cd.rules from making duplicate entries every time i insert a USB modem?
[18:07] <dury> Trek: can't remove a specific drive
[18:07] <dury> the ide one
[18:07] <Trek> dury: you dont need to remove it
[18:07] <lungan> edeca, Yeah, but never mind this .mkv problem I have, the only simple solution is to start using windows again
[18:07] <dury> or I'm doing something wrong
[18:07] <Trek> what BIOS do you have, dury?
[18:07] <Jack_Smirnoff> edeca there was a good ABS GUide  advanced bash scripting..  it was in our repos a long time ago
[18:07] <bdheeman> edeca: nope, it is sequence of commands
[18:08] <interrupt> how do you extend your monitor? i dont see the option under display
[18:08] <dury> Trek: how do I know it?
[18:08] <edeca> Jack_Smirnoff: That guide is where I learnt all I know :)
[18:08] <dury> Trek: drive me please
[18:08] <Jack_Smirnoff> edeca I think he gave up on the project..
[18:08] <candy> sebsebseb, isnt there any alternate software like coral draw in ubuntu??
[18:08] <Trek> dury, what make/model of computer do you own, first?
[18:09] <dury> Trek clone pc
[18:09] <dury> not model
[18:09] <sebsebseb> candy: Well there are alternative graphics programs, The GIMP, Inkscape etc, however they aren't that likely to open up a Coral Draw file I expect, since how it's a propritary format, and not that popular.
[18:09] <bdheeman> candy: inkscape, dia
[18:10] <Trek> dury: in BIOS, under "Boot" (it should be there), does it list "Hard Drive Boot Order" or something similar?
[18:10] <candy> sebsebseb, i tried opening with inkspace but i couldnt see the contents
[18:10] <candy> bdheeman, what is that dia??
[18:10] <sebsebseb> candy: Have you tired Coral Draw in Wine?
[18:11] <bdheeman> candy: an alternative to visio
[18:11] <candy> sebsebseb, nope coz i want one in ubuntu
[18:11] <dury> yeah but only says hd0 - hd1 - hd3 and so on
[18:11] <Homely_Girl> Hi anyone have experience dealing with the drivers conflict in Karmic with the Three mbb dongle, Huawei E160G?
[18:11] <Jack_Smirnoff> candy then use a NON-propietary file format
[18:11] <shubbar> Jack_Smirnoff, restarted the pc and its now working, thanks.
[18:11] <sebsebseb> candy: Wine runs in Ubuntu, and  when you open up Wine programs it's rather similar to a native app,  it just opens and you can use it
[18:11] <candy> bdheeman, are u sure i can open through it?? if yes, tel me where to get it?? software center
[18:11] <candy> ??
[18:11] <Jack_Smirnoff> shubbar glad to hear it
[18:11] <Homely_Girl> I googled this conflict 'n found some instructions I don't understand!! :(
[18:12] <candy> sebsebseb, i ll try it
[18:12] <Trek> hello Homely_Girl.  link me the instructions, please, i'll see if I can help out
[18:12] <Diverdude> If i have downloaded a set of script files for e.g. emacs, and have them in a folder....What is then the appropriate place to store this folder? Is there a place like /usr/local/bin, just for additional stuff?
[18:12] <sebsebseb> !wine | candy
[18:12] <Homely_Girl> Trek: I'll paste now...thanks...
[18:12] <bdheeman> candy: no, the inscape and, or dia are not substitudes, but alternatives
[18:13] <Squideshi> Is the first splash screen that I see after grub in Ubuntu 9.10 (the one with the plain white Ubuntu logo in the center of a black screen without a progress bar) generated by grub, usplash, or something else?
[18:13] <Homely_Girl> Trek: http://forums.whirlpool.net.au/forum-replies-archive.cfm/1046813.html
[18:13] <dury> Trek: so what should I do... what you suggest ?
[18:13] <sebsebseb> Squideshi: that's xsplash
[18:13] <dury> check the bios
[18:13] <Trek> dury: in BIOS, under "Boot" (it should be there), does it list "Hard Drive Boot Order" or something similar?  if there is, change the order of the drives
[18:13] <candy> bdheeman, ok. so i can open .cdr document right??
[18:13] <Homely_Girl> Trek: I know I seem confident 'n clever 'n do enjoy using apt-get, I'm still basically not a geek! lol
[18:13] <Trek> dury: if there's not, then your BIOS won't let you use both
[18:14] <The_ManU_212> hi
[18:14] <Squideshi> sebsebseb: OK. Thanks. What about the one after that WITH the progress bar?
[18:14] <The_ManU_212> is it possible to view the content of a tar.bz2 file without extracting?
[18:14] <zilkomaa> Is there a way to make more space available for root ?
[18:14] <bdheeman> candy: not, dear; you need to use a comman file format
[18:14] <Jaysin> hi
[18:14] <The_ManU_212> i treid something with -X (exclude) command, but i think it doesnt weok, so i wanted to see what my archieve contains
[18:14] <sebsebseb> Squideshi: I think that's also part of xplash, but not sure,  or it's linked to GDM, since if KDM is done won't get it
[18:15] <ahmedtheghost> hello
[18:15] <dury> Trek: see what I can do... really appreciate your support... cheers
[18:15] <candy> bdheeman, tel me the command
[18:15] <ahmedtheghost> hello all
[18:15] <Squideshi> sebsebseb: Got it. Thank you very much!
[18:15] <Jack_Smirnoff> zilkomaa move the packages in var/cache/apt/archives to a dvd or another drive
[18:15] <sebsebseb> Homely_Girl:  wireless issue?
[18:15] <ehnde> what happened to linux-restricted-modules ? i'm trying to follow the isntructions on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EnablingPAE but there is no linux-restricted-modules-server package available
[18:15] <Jaysin> can some PM me that knows about the sudo and command lines to become super user in unbuntu 9.10
[18:15] <Trek> dury / Homely_Girl: you'll have to forgive lag in my messages, I"m semi busy at the same time
[18:15] <Homely_Girl> sebsebseb: You betcha!!
[18:15] <sebsebseb> Homely_Girl: this might be helpful
[18:16] <Homely_Girl> sebsebseb: I have to reinstall my dongle daily!!
[18:16] <sebsebseb> !wirelesss | Homely_Girl
[18:16] <sebsebseb> !wireless |  Homely_Girl
[18:16] <Jack_Smirnoff> Jaysin Best to keep questions and answers in the channel
[18:16] <ahmedtheghost> hello all
[18:16] <dury> Trek: don't to worry it's all right
[18:16] <Alienness> hi all
[18:16] <bdheeman> candy: I don't use coreldraw, but you may try exporting you corel file to SVG
[18:16] <ahmedtheghost> hi
[18:16] <dury> be back later cheers
[18:16] <Trek> Homely_Girl, do you use Network Manager or WICD?
[18:16] <Jaysin> ok
[18:16] <Homely_Girl> Trek: I stress over the pc am happy 2 wait!
[18:16] <dury> :)
[18:16] <sebsebseb> candy: Do you have a Windows CD/DVD?
[18:16] <Jaysin> well obviously im new to linux
[18:16] <Jaysin> lol
[18:16] <capron> zilkomaa,  yes there is , There are tools for changing partion sizes ,  But the all recomend a backup before
[18:16] <candy> sebsebseb, yep
[18:17] <sebsebseb> candy:  Which one? also how much RAM you got?
[18:17] <candy> bdheeman, how to explore that??
[18:17] <Jaysin> im trying to install programs and watch videos
[18:17] <candy> sebsebseb, ram 3 gb, win 7
[18:17] <Jaysin> programs to watch videos
[18:17] <zilkomaa> capron: yeah, but the problem is that i have only 50gig partition for linux.
[18:17] <Jaysin> VLC player
[18:17] <militant1> this is driving me nuts.  i really don't get why it's making a duplicate entry every time i insert the same usb stick
[18:18] <Homely_Girl> Trek: I think it's network manager, it's where I can see mobile b/band tab, wireless tab etc
[18:18] <Jaysin> im using synaptic pm
[18:18] <`mOOse`> sebsebseb,  I wonder if he's "opening" or "importing"
[18:18] <zilkomaa> capron, but i have available ntfs partitions that i could format ext4...
[18:18] <bdheeman> candy: *export* file?
[18:18] <Jack_Smirnoff> Jaysin  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Medibuntu
[18:18] <daftykins> !enter | Jaysin
[18:18] <sebsebseb> candy: Wine and  Windows virtual machine's are your options,  unless you can find an alternative program that opens up your file that and is native
[18:18] <candy> bdheeman, hmm
[18:18] <Jaysin> k
[18:18] <jester5532> im having a bit problem with making my bootable cd for an upgrade from the iso
[18:19] <Trek> Homely_Girl: right click the icon for your wireless manager... hit "About'
[18:19] <candy> sebsebseb, hmmm i think i got to use wine till i find one here
[18:19] <Trek> what's its version
[18:19] <jester5532> every time im done burning it i can read the program in another computer with mac or windows on it, but when i put it in here it shows up as a blank cd
[18:19] <zilkomaa> Jack_Smirnoff: Can i safely remove those packages ?
[18:19] <Jack_Smirnoff> jester5532 right click the iso and write to cd
[18:19] <jester5532> 9.10 64 bit
[18:19] <sebsebseb> m00se whatever that character is at the begining means I can't just auto complete you, also you should be asking them not me really
[18:19] <`mOOse`> sebsebseb, inkscape is supposed to work with .cdr's
[18:20] <Homely_Girl> Trek: It's VPN Connections I click on
[18:20] <jester5532> i burned it from my computer running 9.10 32 bit as an iso, but it wouldnt read as anything but blank after burning on the same machine
[18:20] <Jack_Smirnoff> zilkomaa those are the debs you already installed, you can safely move them or put them on a cd as seen in aptoncd
[18:20] <Jack_Smirnoff> !aptoncd
[18:20] <mOOse`> sorry sebsebseb
[18:20] <capron> zilkomaa, I mayed my installation simpel one /boot 3 G one /swap,   Then one big root for the rest
[18:20] <mOOse`> but anyways....this pgm is supposed to work with corel files
[18:20] <Homely_Girl> Trek: There's no about in VPN Connections.
[18:21] <SirLoseALot> Hey guys I'm looking for a way to change the Artist in the id3 tag of multiple mp3s at once. Tried Easytag 2.1.6 but it seems it only allows editing one file at a time. Anyone know a tool?
[18:21] <edeca> SirLoseALot: I use mp3tag (a Windows program) under WINE
[18:21] <mOOse`> candy - you might try the inkscape forums
[18:21] <zilkomaa> capron: yea u made it simple
[18:21] <Trek> hm... you don't use Network Manager then I think, Homely_Girl
[18:21] <edeca> SirLoseALot: There are ways to script it
[18:21] <mOOse`> candy, http://www.inkscapeforum.com/viewforum.php?f=5&sid=a63d157aa4b84811921894c7f5157802
[18:21] <ccraze> How do you flash a HDD firmware update in Ubuntu?
[18:21] <Homely_Girl> Trek: Do enlighten me how to use it then! lol
[18:21] <SirLoseALot> edeca: I'm no good at scripting - I use Ubuntu since yesterday :)
[18:21] <Jack_Smirnoff> ccraze sounds dangerous
[18:22] <SirLoseALot> edeca: Is mp3tag easy to install under wine?
[18:22] <zilkomaa> Jack_Smirnoff: Ok.
[18:22] <edeca> SirLoseALot: Yes, wine setup.exe ;)
[18:22] <ccraze> I know, Jack_Smirnoff.
[18:22] <capron> zilkomaa, you can use lvm2 partion then it is more esay too later mess around, but lvm2 do take a lot of space also
[18:22] <edeca> SirLoseALot: You might find that works well for you
[18:22] <candy> mOOse`, okei bro, i ll do. thnaks.
[18:22] <Homely_Girl> Trek: I'm running Karmic btw.
[18:22] <ccraze> I'm willing to brick it if it doesn't work.
[18:22] <Jack_Smirnoff> ccraze dont hey give you a bootable cd or floppy option for that upgrade
[18:22] <sebsebseb> mOOse`: not that it matters, but  I think candy is a she
[18:22] <Trek> Homely_Girl, in command line: sudo apt-get install network-manager-gnome
[18:22] <sebsebseb> mOOse`: by the way
[18:22] <iter> ccraze: if it's a precompiled exe easiest way is to slap it in a win32 machine
[18:22] <SirLoseALot> edeca: I tried the same with teamviewer. It installs successfully but aferwards can't be started and isn't in wine's c:/programs/ oO
[18:22] <Trek> Homely_Girl, ah
[18:23] <SirLoseALot> edeca: Any idea what might be going on?
[18:23] <daftykins> ccraze: most firmwares require DOS boot disks of that nature. ask yourself if the firmware update is really necessary.
[18:23] <Jack_Smirnoff> ccraze is this a firmware to make your system see a large drive?
[18:23] <Trek> Homely_Girl, perhaps NetworkManager doesn't work there...
[18:23] <candy> sebsebseb, yep
[18:23] <zilkomaa> capron: Is it good program?
[18:23] <mOOse`> sebsebseb, everybody's a 12 yr old girl on the internet :-)
[18:23] <edeca> SirLoseALot: Some programs simply don't work.  I have never used that one, sorry
[18:23] <candy> sebsebseb, how did  u know??
[18:23] <Homely_Girl> Trek: Done
[18:23] <zilkomaa> should "quota -v" command show freespace
[18:23] <Trek> Homely_Girl, you might need to restart to load it, that will give you access to network cards and info
[18:24] <sebsebseb> candy: I don't think many guys would call themselves candy on IRC,  good IRC nick by the way
[18:24] <xerox1> hi, i am a bit unhappy with fspot; so i am looking for alternatives; any recommendations?
[18:24] <candy> mOOse`, that was just an expression dont think it seriously.. just came and typed
[18:24] <jduke128> hi , i m having problem on my ubuntu when i press alt + left click moves window but i want to disable that shortcut key
[18:24] <edeca> zilkomaa: df -h perhaps?
[18:24] <Trek> Homely_Girl, your drivers might not be included as well, i'll keep reading the page you provided.
[18:24] <SirLoseALot> edeca: actually, it does work, even without installation. I am just confused about it installing correctly but then not showing in c:. Anyways, I'll try mp3 tag now, hopefully you're still here if something goes wrong :(
[18:24] <candy> sebsebseb, thanks:-)
[18:24] <Trek> Homely_Girl, in the mean time, you might reboot
[18:24] <edeca> zilkomaa: quota only shows user quotas
[18:24] <jduke128> how can i disable that shortcut please help!
[18:24] <Jack_Smirnoff> xerox1 try gthumb
[18:24] <SirLoseALot> i mean :)
[18:24] <zilkomaa> edeca: :D
[18:24] <ccraze> Okay, I'll level with you all.  I'm looking for a way to load a flashing utility that won't check the existing firmware on the drive so that I can cross flash a drive to report that it's an official 'branded' model instead of the OEM model.  This is for personal use and I won't be selling it.
[18:24] <Homely_Girl> Trek: I have access to that thru the Administration menu under "Network Tools"
[18:24] <capron> zilkomaa, lvm2 is interesting ,  you can do a lot like taking a backup and resize partion even if it is mounted and in use
[18:24] <jduke128> hi , i m having problem on my ubuntu when i press alt + left click moves window but i want to disable that shortcut key , i need to disable shortcut pls help
[18:24] <jduke128> hi , i m having problem on my ubuntu when i press alt + left click moves window but i want to disable that shortcut key , i need to disable shortcut pls help
[18:24] <mOOse`> candy - I know - it's cool :-)
[18:24] <xerox1> Jack_Smirnoff, thx will give it a try
[18:24] <edeca> ccraze: Most of those only work under Windows, unfortunately
[18:25] <iter> ccraze: what's the utility
[18:25] <capron> zilkomaa, but relly not needid just for a desktop user
[18:25] <ccraze> That's what I'm looking for.
[18:25] <Homely_Girl> Trek: rebooting, back as soon as I can manage to reconnect! ;)
[18:25] <iter> ccraze: for a raid array? or xbox :)
[18:25] <candy> mOOse`, ok. thanks for ur help dude. good night. got to sleep :-)
[18:25] <mOOse`> candy :-)
[18:25] <ccraze> iter: A raid array.
[18:25] <sebsebseb> xerox1:  of course, but I can't think of the one they useaully recommend instead,  but if I ask some where else, I guess they will tell me :D so hold on
[18:25] <iter> ccraze: do you have a copy of the firmware you want to load?
[18:25] <candy> mOOse`, :-)
[18:26] <ccraze> iter: Yes.
[18:26] <Jack_Smirnoff> ccraze it is for the drive and not your cmos-bios right?
[18:26] <iter> ccraze: how did you acquire it? some dump utility?
[18:26] <ccraze> Jack_Smirnoff: Right.
[18:26] <SirLoseALot> edeca: It says there's an update available. Can I simply download & install it from within the program?
[18:27] <ccraze> iter: I got it from support.dell.com, but if you know a good dump utility, I'd feel better about dumping the firmware from the existing other drive.
[18:27] <iter> Jack_Smirnoff, ccraze: yeah some raid arrays (ahem, xserve) want a specific firmware on the drive
[18:27] <raven> sysresccd how to MOUND a TRUECRYPT partition?
[18:27] <edeca> SirLoseALot: I've never tried that, it might work!
[18:27] <sebsebseb> xerox1: yep I was told else where :)  gthumb
[18:27] <edeca> SirLoseALot: But equally it might not.
[18:27] <capron> zilkomaa,  did you run out of space for root ? even if it was around 50G
[18:27] <vinse> in order to get my network connection to work, i had to explicitly set my ip (via ifconfig), dns server (via editing /etc/resolv.conf) and router (via route add).  these setting disappear when i restart, how do i make them persistent?
[18:27] <SirLoseALot> edeca: Well, I feel adventurous :p
[18:27] <edeca> raven: Install truecrypt from www.truecrypt.org ?
[18:27] <xerox1> sebsebseb, thx
[18:27] <edeca> SirLoseALot: It probably wont break it ;)
[18:27] <Guest47678> ola
[18:28] <sebsebseb> xerox1: np
[18:28] <iter> ccraze: you would probably be best off trying to crack the flashing utility
[18:28] <SirLoseALot> (getting Ubuntu to boot from my external hdd was an adventure all by itself, anyways)
[18:28] <iter> ccraze: remove the check there and it should work
[18:28] <raven> sysresccd how to MOUND a TRUECRYPT partition?
[18:28] <raven> edeca, its with the system
[18:28] <iter> ccraze: we could start writing to the firmware on your new drive willy-nilly but that has a low chance of success
[18:28] <edeca> raven: So run truecrypt and use the GUI
[18:28] <Guest47678> olaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa luis
[18:28] <semi> olaaaaaaaa
[18:29] <ccraze> iter: Yeah, I'm willing to brick one or two of these.
[18:29] <|WolF|> question: when ever i try to do ./configure i get this: ./configure.lineno: line 141: /dev/null: Permission denied
[18:29] <ccraze> iter: I got a good deal so I bought more than one.
[18:29] <allowoverride> how do i from the command line or config file EXCLUDE the kernel in apt-get update, or any file for that matter.
[18:29] <Jack_Smirnoff> !pinning
[18:29] <ccraze> iter: It was $60 per 750GB drive.
[18:30] <iter> and they're like 400/ea from dell :)
[18:30] <ccraze> Exactly.
[18:30] <jrib> allowoverride: new kernel packages come in because you have some meta package like linux-image-generic (from memory) installed
[18:30] <allowoverride> i remember in YUM you could put parameters in the config to skip the kernel, so this is the case for apt-get update
[18:30] <allowoverride> jrib: ok, continue
[18:30] <natrixnatrix89> whats the command in terminal to shut down computer?
[18:30] <Der> Hi, i have a MAJOR DISASTER, all users on my system cannont login anymore....pliz help
[18:30] <jrib> allowoverride: so remove the package....  It's a terrible idea though, why would you want to do it?
[18:30] <capron> SirLoseALot, Hehe geting windows to boot from external is kind of mission impossibel.
[18:30] <allowoverride> i want to
[18:31] <Der> natrixnatrix89, shutdown -s
[18:31] <natrixnatrix89> Der: tanks
[18:31] <iter> ccraze: what drive model?
[18:31] <SirLoseALot> capron: I'm on a Installation that does exactly that right now :)
[18:31] <allowoverride> kinda like, why would any ever want to do a custom kernel
[18:31] <Der> natrixnatrix89, welcome
[18:31] <SirLoseALot> capron: Was a major pain to get going, though
[18:31] <jrib> allowoverride: I understand that you want to.  Not *why*
[18:31] <SirLoseALot> took me two days
[18:31] <jazz> anyone using docky? the one split off gnome do?
[18:31] <jrib> allowoverride: it's not like that at all
[18:31] <ccraze> iter: ST3750641S is the OEM
[18:31] <allowoverride> i dont have time to explain it all
[18:31] <allowoverride> i just need to know what i asked
[18:32] <Der> people please this is MAJOR, all users on my system cannont login anymore....pliz help...
[18:32] <jrib> allowoverride: that's fine.  Take it under advisement I think it's a terrible idea
[18:32] <allowoverride> how do i from the command line or config file EXCLUDE the kernel in apt-get update, or any file for that matter.
[18:32] <arand> !anyone | jazz
[18:32] <capron> SirLoseALot, I faild in it I and tryed hard ,  Cud only get bartpe too boot from a usb ,
[18:32] <ccraze> iter: The Dell model is ST3750640S.
[18:32] <jrib> allowoverride: I just told you how to do so for the kernel...
[18:32] <SirLoseALot> edeca: mp3tag works great, does exactly what I wanted - Thanks a lot :)
[18:32] <allowoverride> when i check for updates, it always says, new kernel image. i do not wish to keep switching kernels like weekly lol
[18:32] <allowoverride> jrib: you hinted, not said exactly k
[18:33] <allowoverride> this is what i am asking EXACTLY
[18:33] <Myrtti> Der: you're not giving too much information about your problem
[18:33] <Trek> allowoverride: i've got a ton of kernel updates often... weekly...
[18:33] <jrib> allowoverride: read the changelogs, they happen for a reason.  I did say exactly
[18:33] <edeca> SirLoseALot: It is an awesome program
[18:33] <allowoverride> im not going to just remove a kernel
[18:33] <Trek> allowoverride: i deal with it, unfortunately
[18:33] <allowoverride> Trek: yah i know
[18:33] <jrib> allowoverride: I didn't say to remove a kernel
[18:33] <SirLoseALot> capron: It's not worth it, anyways. The only reason to use Windows would be for gaming, imo - in which case an external is not exactly the kind of speed you're looking for
[18:33] <allowoverride> Trek:  you dont have to thats my point
[18:33] <SirLoseALot> Was more of a... uhm... educational project
[18:33] <jrib> allowoverride: if you want a secure system, you do
[18:33] <Myrtti> yeah, security updates are such a pain in the neck! Why should we update kernels all the time, phooey!
[18:33] <allowoverride> how do i from the command line or config file EXCLUDE the kernel in apt-get update, or any file for that matter.  HERE READ THIS before commenting
[18:33] <Trek> allowoverride: you want to be a walking security risk?  the kernel updates update to include SECURITY UPDATES
[18:33] <|WolF|> question: when ever i try to do ./configure i get this: ./configure.lineno: line 141: /dev/null: Permission denied | the user from wich i am trying is just in users group, should i add it in some other group, to can install for ex. bnc's eggdrop etc
[18:34] <Myrtti> no, seriously. keep your systems updated
[18:34] <allowoverride> jrib: either you know the syntax or yout dont. stop repeating yourself
[18:34] <jazz> how do i install it from the ppa again? im on this page https://edge.launchpad.net/~docky-core/+archive/ppa
[18:34] <Der> Myrtti, its a long story, i tried installing pure-ftpd, i made ftp accounts accidentally in the home directory, where one of the pc users username was the same as the ftp username, which ended up screwing up my system =[
[18:34] <capron> SirLoseALot, Hope you get it too work ,  I tried hard windwos xp sp 3 ,  Might bee better luck with windows 7
[18:34] <seccoleo> ciao
[18:34] <christopherdstam> |WoIF|: try sudo
[18:35] <allowoverride> how do i from the command line or config file EXCLUDE the kernel in apt-get update, or any file for that matter.  i have custom configs specific to one kernel. I do not want things to mess up.... please stop asking me why,, and what is the syntax.....
[18:35] <jrib> allowoverride: stop repeating your question so often
[18:35] <dury> hi
[18:35] <arand> jazz: on karmic?
[18:35] <jazz> i click the arrow  technicle details about this  ppa .
[18:35] <jazz> arand,  yep sorry  9.10
[18:35] <allowoverride> jrib: either you know or you dont
[18:35] <allowoverride> obviously you dont
[18:35] <jrib> allowoverride: that's irrelevant to what I said.
[18:35] <capron> SirLoseALot,   You are right for heard is a bad ide to run it external ,  But still ubuntu runs good that way or ?
[18:36] <iter> allowoverride: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=259280
[18:36] <dury> hi there again channel :)
[18:36] <iter> allowoverride: 5 secs on google
[18:36] <allowoverride> jrib: i dont wish to answer all your questions...
[18:36] <dury> success
[18:36] <dury> :)
[18:36] <jrib> allowoverride: I'm not asking a question.  I'm telling you to not repeat your question every 10 seconds.
[18:36] <Jack_Smirnoff> !attitude > allowoverride
[18:36] <allowoverride> iter:  whats thatas
[18:36] <arand> jazz: and you've added the ppa line to your software sources?
[18:36] <Der> hi ii tried installing pure-ftpd, i made ftp accounts accidentally in the home directory, where one of the pc users username was the same as the ftp username, which ended up screwing up my system =[ and now no one can login at all, i get many errors, and the home directories are encrypted, so someone help pliz
[18:36] <dury> Trek: was right it was the order of booting
[18:36] <etsorbme8> I am trying to run two instances of squid on my ubuntu box (squid3) and I am having config probs http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/d2a8d5bf1
[18:37] <Trek> dury: thats what I thought, I had that happen on my custom build
[18:37] <iter> allowoverride: the answer to your question you wanker :)
[18:37] <Trek> dury: i messed with boot order, then it WORKS
[18:37] <jazz> arand,  not yet, thats what im asking, how to?
[18:37] <allowoverride> wtf is ubutto talking to me for....
[18:37] <sipher> Hi, Im trying to get evolution working with exchange. I am unable to create an account using the Microsoft Exchange option. no matter what it sez authentication failed... I've tied every combination possible =/ still no dice
[18:37] <|WolF|> from what comes this? ./configure.lineno: line 141: /dev/null: Permission denied
[18:37] <dury> Trek: really appreciate your support.. believe me
[18:37] <Trek> !language | iter
[18:38] <Trek> dury, no problem dude
[18:38] <Jack_Smirnoff> allowoverride to get you to try and watch your attitude and stop being rude
[18:38] <arand> jazz: You've got the software sources open (admin menu..)
[18:38] <Homely_Girl> Trek: Did u miss me!!?? :P
[18:38] <Der> hi ii tried installing pure-ftpd, i made ftp accounts accidentally in the home directory, where one of the pc users username was the same as the ftp username, which ended up screwing up my system =[ and now no one can login at all, i get many errors, and the home directories are encrypted, so someone help pliz
[18:38] <Trek> Homely_Girl, welcome back
[18:38] <tom_fishy> I am just about to create a virtual drive for ubuntu. how big should the disk be? I know this depands on alot of stuff but approxmatily if I want to test it out and don't run out of space
[18:38] <Trek> Homely_Girl, is the system detecting the card yet?
[18:38] <jazz> arand,  yep
[18:38] <iter> tom_fishy: 10-20gb is fine
[18:38] <Homely_Girl> Trek: 2 reboots 'n one reinstall later I could get online. Wot card?
[18:38] <Trek> sorry, the USB thingy, Homely_Girl
[18:39] <Trek> its working now?
[18:39] <tom_fishy> iter ok cool will go with 20 then
[18:39] <sipher> Does anyone have exchange working in Evolution?
[18:39] <sipher> =/
[18:39] <Der> hi ii tried installing pure-ftpd, i made ftp accounts accidentally in the home directory, where one of the pc users username was the same as the ftp username, which ended up screwing up my system =[ and now no one can login at all, i get many errors, and the home directories are encrypted, so someone help pliz
[18:39] <arand> jazz: in the 3rd party software tab just add the line "ppa:docky-core/ppa"
[18:39] <Homely_Girl> Trek: It's always recognised it, but I have to delete 'n reinstall too many time a day that I care to remember!! :(
[18:39] <deostroll> !xlib
[18:40] <deostroll> does any1 know what is xlib?
[18:40] <Trek> Homely_Girl: perhaps the issue lies in Karmic...
[18:40] <Der> hi ii tried installing pure-ftpd, i made ftp accounts accidentally in the home directory, where one of the pc users username was the same as the ftp username, which ended up screwing up my system =[ and now no one can login at all, i get many errors, and the home directories are encrypted, so someone help pliz
[18:40] <arand> jazz: sorry, "other software" tab instead
[18:40] <Der> is this place any gd ! =[
[18:40] <Homely_Girl> Trek: Like I can be online all day 'n then suddenly I've lost connection 'n have to delete, reboot, reinstall, reboot....
[18:40] <allowoverride> Jack_Smirnoff: do you know the syntax for apt-get update where by to exclude kernels or images from being ever checked?
[18:40] <jazz> arand,  what about these from the page
[18:40] <Homely_Girl> Trek: And sometimes delete 'n reboot again! :(
[18:40] <jazz> deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/docky-core/ppa/ubuntu karmic main
[18:40] <jazz> deb-src http://ppa.launchpad.net/docky-core/ppa/ubuntu karmic main
[18:40] <sipher> major bummer. too bad ubuntu can NEVER get evolution and exchange working constitantly. Ive never had it just work. I think im going back to XP..this is not acceptable for a business user.
[18:40] <iter> !troll | allowoverride
[18:40] <jose> Hi everyone, I got a question: How can I edit the sudoers list from a non-sudo user. Right now I'm remotely logged in to a PC logged in as a non-sudo and there's a user which is sudo and I can't logout-login (remotely) any help?
[18:41] <capron> Der, dont spam
[18:41] <allowoverride> !troll | iter
[18:41] <allowoverride> dick
[18:41] <fsgsfahbt> FINALY
[18:41] <iter> allowoverride: I answered your question, as did others
[18:41] <deostroll> xlib??? any1?
[18:41] <trism> allowoverride: man 5 apt_preferences; it will tell you how to pin packages, so you don't get updates
[18:41] <|WolF|> from what comes this? ./configure.lineno: line 141: /dev/null: Permission denied <=?????????
[18:41] <Trek> Homely_Girl, you ever considered using sudo ifconfig InterfaceIDGoesHere down up ?
[18:41] <Trek> !language | allowoverride
[18:41] <sipher> |WolF| run it as root..
[18:41] <Jack_Smirnoff> allowoverride THe only way I know of keeping one revision over another is pinning as I posed long ago.  Not to mention what you are doing is silly and not in your best interest
[18:41] <allowoverride> ah.. thats it,, apt_prefs
[18:41] <allowoverride> thats what i was looking for, a clue something, so i can try reading,,,
[18:42] <Homely_Girl> Trek: I'm sure I would consider it if I'd a.) heard of it, and b.) knew wtf it was??? lol
[18:42] <Der> capron, WHAT!, wheres the part where i spammed, i have a problem, and am frustrated, if you can help --- help, if you cant than i'd prefer you keep ur comments to urself
[18:42] <allowoverride> Jack_Smirnoff: ?
[18:42] <Homely_Girl> Trek: I am putty in your hands.....mould me! lol
[18:42] <trism> |WolF|: check the permissions on /dev/null, they should be readable and writable by everyone. if not you may need to check your udev rules
[18:42] <sipher> Der we don't need to see you problem every 2 seconds.
[18:42] <deostroll> anyone know about the stuff that i need to get started with x programming?
[18:42] <|WolF|> sipher i know that but i should be able to run ./configure on eggdrop and simple things ...
[18:42] <sipher> Der please consider other people use the chat...
[18:42] <Trek> Homely_Girl: command line: ifconfig -a
[18:42] <Trek> pastebin results please
[18:42] <allowoverride> w?hats is pinning
[18:42] <sipher> |WolF| I'm assuming your user doesn't have access to /dev/null ?
[18:42] <jazz> Aragon,  i see it now ok, so i need the full path for the ppa?
[18:42] <edeca> Trek: I much prefer `ip addr` :)
[18:43] <Der> sipher, i paste the msg, when the old one is out of the buffer...
[18:43] <Der> hi ii tried installing pure-ftpd, i made ftp accounts accidentally in the home directory, where one of the pc users username was the same as the ftp username, which ended up screwing up my system =[ and now no one can login at all, i get many errors, and the home directories are encrypted, so someone help pliz
[18:43] <sipher> Der exactly...
[18:43] <sipher> Der its anoying.
[18:43] <blakkheim> !repeat | der
[18:43] <Trek> hey, how do i clear the IPv6 cache of IPs my Desktop has received?
[18:43] <zilkomaa> capron: I did a mistake with installing linux only gave 10gigs for root
[18:43] <fsgsfahbt> alright i need help, i went to grub 2 after restart, choosed recovery mode, waiting, choosed "resume", tried to login with my nickname XYZ and my password nice123tree. btw these aren't mine but anyway i didn't worked, i just failed why? how can i fix it? i can still go to "root" instead "resume" BUT i don't want to be root in recovery shell. plz help
[18:43] <christopherdstam> member:%7CWolF%7C: did u run it as root?
[18:43] <edeca> sipher: Users should _always_ have access to char special devices like /dev/null
[18:43] <iter> ccraze: that firmware flash is going to be very difficult without custom software
[18:43] <|WolF|> sipher how to add/check access to /dev/null?
[18:43] <deostroll> ! x programming
[18:43] <arand> jazz: That's if you want to do it (more) manually, and/or don't have karmic (since jaunty won't accept the ppa:*** syntax)
[18:43] <sipher> edeca agree..
[18:43] <Trek> edeca: i'm looking for the ifconfig info :P
[18:43] <Homely_Girl> !pastebin
[18:43] <deostroll> !x
[18:43] <Trek> hey, how do i clear the IPv6 cache of IPs my Desktop has received?
[18:43] <edeca> Trek: What specifically from ifconfig that isn't present? :)
[18:43] <Homely_Girl> !pastebin Homely_Girl
[18:43] <edeca> Trek: The MAC address cache?
[18:43] <sebsebseb> Homely_Girl: those three letters count as swearing here by the way, and swearing is against the channel rules
[18:44] <fsgsfahbt> holy shit so many users
[18:44] <sipher> so Exchange is just broken on ubuntu? Ditch it?
[18:44] <dury> have to go channel :-) thanks again cheers
[18:44] <Trek> !languate | fsgsfahbt
[18:44] <fsgsfahbt> i better go xubuntu
[18:44] <Der> sipher, BlackBinary , it depends on ur resolution, mine is 800*600 dont blame me if ur  monitor is a TV screen
[18:44] <Trek> !language | fsgsfahbt
[18:44] <Homely_Girl> sebsebseb: I apologise.....did not mean offence
[18:44] <fsgsfahbt> !language
[18:44] <Trek> hey, how do i clear the IPv6 cache of IPs my Desktop has received?
[18:44] <fsgsfahbt> sry
[18:44] <etsorbme8> ! difference between squid squid3
[18:44] <sipher> Der, the point is...people see it...you don't need to repeat it every 2 seconds.
[18:44] <zilkomaa> capron: And for /home directory i gave 30gigs
[18:44] <edeca> Trek: Which cache?
[18:44] <edeca> Trek: The MAC address cache?
[18:44] <sebsebseb> Homely_Girl: you didn't offend me
[18:45] <Trek> edeca: i've got a huge lsit of IPv6 addys listed for my device under ifconfig
[18:45] <Trek> edeca: any way to clear them all and get only one listed there?
[18:45] <Der> sipher, oh ....so how often shud i ""attempt""  to get noticed here ?
[18:45] <nyaa> hi, I was looking for an elegant way to save all the stuff that happens in a certain terminal session.  Maybe a command you can type to open a new one that is logged or just to log that one
[18:45] <edeca> Trek: Oh, I see.
[18:45] <zilkomaa> capron: And i just checked it wasnt 50gigs it is 42gigs to whole ubuntu. i thought i dont need more than that..
[18:45] <jose> anyone?
[18:45] <Trek> edeca: or better yet, deactivate IPv6 altogether
[18:45] <jose> Hi everyone, I got a question: How can I edit the sudoers list from a non-sudo user. Right now I'm remotely logged in to a PC logged in as a non-sudo and there's a user which is sudo and I can't logout-login (remotely)?
[18:45] <jazz> Aragon,  i see, now its added then close and reload?
[18:45] <Der> hi ii tried installing pure-ftpd, i made ftp accounts accidentally in the home directory, where one of the pc users username was the same as the ftp username, which ended up screwing up my system =[ and now no one can login at all, i get many errors, and the home directories are encrypted, so someone help pliz
[18:45] <Jack_Smirnoff> Der every 2 minutes is plenty often enough
[18:45] <Der> :O
[18:45] <|WolF|> trism: this is what i get crw------- 1 root root 1, 3 Feb 4 23:30 /dev/null
[18:46] <Homely_Girl> sebsebseb: I would've thought as we're all adults 'n it was merely an abbreviation 'n is something I would say to most ppl in person.....but I'll button my lip. ;)
[18:46] <Hilikus> hey guys
[18:46] <Der> Jack_Smirnoff, nobody ever scrolls up...
[18:46] <Homely_Girl> Trek: http://paste.ubuntu.com/373414/
[18:46] <sipher> Der then assume noboyd is going to help :p
[18:46] <sebsebseb> Homely_Girl: no this channel has people from  probably nearly every countrey in the world, and loads of differnet ages
[18:46] <sipher> Der go post on a forum
[18:46] <Jack_Smirnoff> Der Please dont repeat it every time it scrolls off the screen.
[18:46] <Hilikus> after playing music for a while, the sound crashes and starts producing low crackling noises
[18:46] <Hilikus> and i get this in syslog
[18:46] <Hilikus> snd_pcm_delay() returned a value that is exceptionally large:<PHONE_NUMBER>52478580 bytes<PHONE_NUMBER>3 ms).
[18:46] <Hilikus> Feb 10 13:34:36 hilikus-pc pulseaudio[1677]: alsa-util.c: Most likely this is a bug in the ALSA driver 'snd_hda_intel'.
[18:47] <Trek> Homely_Girl: when the system disconnects, try using sudo ifconfig ppp0 down up
[18:47] <Trek> Homely_Girl, that should restart the card
[18:47] <Trek> Homely_Girl, that should restart the device*
[18:47] <jazz> Aragon,  thank you sovermuch, good day. :)
[18:47] <Homely_Girl> Trek: Pause plse, phone call!
[18:47] <Der> sipher, Jack_Smirnoff, i hate forums, they never get answerd, maybe 1 thread ever 500, so xchat is my only hopeless yet desparate chance, so....
[18:48] <Lint01> where does linux store environment variables?
[18:48] <sipher> Der have respect. thats the point.
[18:48] <Jack_Smirnoff> Der If this is your only way to get an answer, then you should probably obey the chanel rules.. eh?
[18:48] <jrib> Lint01: why?
[18:48] <jazz> arand, sent the thanks to the wrong  nick.  thanks for the help. ill learn this yet. :)
[18:48] <sipher> Lint01 they are set during the login process.
[18:48] <trism> |WolF|: yeah, that is wrong, you can fix it temporarily with sudo chmod 666 /dev/null; but you should probably investigate to figure out why they were set incorrectly
[18:48] <Homely_Girl> Trek: So the command is "sudo ifconfig ppp0 down up" correct?
[18:49] <sipher> ./etc/profile
[18:49] <Trek> Homely_Girl, that should restart the device, since its the only one with an IP
[18:49] <anarkissed> hey all
[18:49] <arand> jazz: np, glad to help, (hope Arago isn't grumphy ;)
[18:49] <Der> sipher, Jack_Smirnoff, wtv...plus i know the channel rules, peeps keep repeating them everytime, thnx 4 ur time and info...
[18:49] <Lint01> so when I'm using varios gnome utilities they just change that file?
[18:49] <Trek> Homely_Girl, my system is an Intel wifi card, it d/cs and won't reconnect until the card is rebooted (my command though is sudo ifconfig wlan0 down up)
[18:49] <Homely_Girl> Trek: Would it help if I gave u a screen shot of the "configure VPN?
[18:49] <jazz> arand,  maybe not still wished him a good day lol. laters
[18:49] <sipher> Lint01 no..
[18:50] <anarkissed> anyone had issues with installing realtek 8191 wlan drivers?
[18:50] <iter> Der: boot from CD, mount filesystems, remove pure-ftpd, check pam.d
[18:50] <sipher> Lint01 Hehe...then you would want to check gconf-editor
[18:50] <|WolF|> trism thanks a lot ( sudo chmod a+r /dev/null sudo chmod a+w /dev/null <==i did this and it worked
[18:50] <Trek> it might, Homely_Girl
[18:50] <SirLoseALot> capron: Sorry, was away - anyways, yes, Ubuntu run's extremely well. Even stuff like 3d games etc, no trouble at all. Lots of Ram might help
[18:50] <Homely_Girl> unpause
[18:50] <capron> zilkomaa, Hope you can fix it,  I guess the simpel way is to buy a new disk
[18:50] <Der> iter, i already removed pureftpd, but it seems it has left some side effects
[18:50] <sipher> edeca see ;) It was stupid /dev/null
[18:51] <Der> iter, i can tell u the  errors i get at login
[18:51] <lupita> esto k es?
[18:51] <iter> Der: yes, pastebin
[18:51] <Jack_Smirnoff> !es
[18:51] <trism> |WolF|: you're welcome, sorry I always think in octal with permissions
[18:51] <benji__> Hi, Which is the current best solution for VM ? vmware ? virtualbox ?
[18:51] <jrib> !away > hipe
[18:51] <sebsebseb> benji__: depends
[18:51] <sipher> benji__ preference...I like vmware...
[18:51] <sebsebseb> benji__: for ah ome user though, I think  Virtualbox
[18:51] <zilkomaa> capron: i have ntfs partition in this same disk just have to resize it and format one partition to ext4 thats it
[18:52] <christopherdstam> benji__: VirtualBox is way better. Seamless mode, it's free,,
[18:52] <sebsebseb> benji__: Virtualbox is way more popular in here than VMware
[18:52] <sipher> christopherdstam assuming you're not using it in a coorporate env.
[18:52] <anarkissed> I have an "unclaimed" wifi adapter in lshw anyone had this problem?
[18:52] <iter> I use virtualbox for desktop VM, VMWare ESXi for server
[18:52] <sipher> iter yes :>
[18:53] <sipher> ESXi is tasty
[18:53] <capron> SirLoseALot, Nice too hear that linux is better then windows too run like that.
[18:53] <vinse> i just changed to get a static ip (added  iface eth0 inet static ot /etc/network/interfaces) but when i restarted and did ifconfig, eth0 didnt show up at all.  then i did ifconfig eth0 inet 192.xxx... and everything was find.  how do i get it so eth0 exists on start up :x
[18:53] <Der> iter,  1: could not update ICEAuthority File, 2: there is a problem with the configuration server (/usr/lib/libgconf2.4/gconf-sanity-check2 exited with error code 256), 3: Nautilus could not create the /home/user/desktop folder and /home/user/.nautilus
[18:53] <benji__> all right I ll try virtualbox since i never user that
[18:54] <sebsebseb> benji__: if you want USB support get it from the web server
[18:54] <capron> zilkomaa, will you make this ntfs partion your new root ?
[18:54] <sebsebseb> benji__: if you don't  then the open source version is fine,  that's in the repo
[18:54] <Der> iter, my home dir is encrypted, and even when i login in using xTerm, i cant see my home folder,
[18:54] <sebsebseb> benji__: and this factoid should be changed, both are free as in price
[18:54] <benji__> sebsebseb, I ll try opensource version
[18:54] <sebsebseb> !virtualbox |  benji__
[18:55] <iter> der: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=949750
[18:56] <iter> der: have you tried the ctrl-alt-f1 followed by sudo service gdm restart?
[18:56] <Der> iter, no
[18:56] <christopherdstam> 'service' doesn't work on debian, no?
[18:56] <Der> iter, plus its not just that , i totally messed up configurations in my home dir
[18:57] <Der> iter, thats why i get more errors
[18:57] <iter> Der: read that thread I pasted, it appears to describe your problem
[18:58] <Der> iter, ill try it and come back to u
[18:58] <zilkomaa> capron: damn good point didnt think about that..is there anyway to add more root disk space, or is it hard to make new root from ntfs space that i have for this disk space problem?
[18:58] <Trek> how do I prevent my system from auto-mapping my IPs into inet6 addresses?
[18:58] <bob-has-an-imgb1>  is it normal that num-pad does not work in shell?
[18:58] <k0d3g3ar> Is there any simple graphical add-on to Network Manager that allows me to quickly change the network configuration for my laptop as I move from client site to client site?
[18:59] <waldi_> siema
[18:59] <jonzbcc> hello, I'm having trouble enabling apache (Server Side Includes) -- does anyone know why I might not be able to use them? I'm reading this: http://httpd.apache.org/docs/1.3/howto/ssi.html#configuringyourservertopermitssi
[18:59] <waldi_> jest tu ktoś? : D
[18:59] <sebsebseb> !pl | waldi_
[18:59] <jonzbcc> I've placed the necessary directives in my .htaccess, and I've enabled (and restarted apache) the mod_include
[19:00] <Der> iter, there si a problem, my home dirs are encrypted, and they dont mount properly anymore
[19:00] <waldi_> joint #ubuntu-pl
[19:00] <waldi_> join #ubuntu.pl
[19:00] <Der> iter, so i cant even access the ICEauthority file....
[19:00] <Trek> waldi_: /join #ubuntu-pl
[19:00] <waldi_> thx : )
[19:00] <capron> zilkomaa,  I think it will work did it on a gentoo system before. Then I copyed the data in root to then new system and made some changes in grub
[19:01] <jonzbcc> no one's familiar with apache SSI?
[19:01] <christopherdstam> jonzbcc: Isn't that just PHP?
[19:01] <DexterLB> hi
[19:01] <DexterLB> holy shit
[19:02] <almu> hola
[19:02] <sebsebseb> !language |  DexterLB
[19:02] <sebsebseb> !es | almu
[19:02] <Trek> how do I prevent my system from auto-mapping my IPs into inet6 addresses?
[19:02] <nyaa> is there an easy way to log everything that is typed into a terminal?
[19:02] <jonzbcc> christopherdstam: no, its not related to PHP. PHP is a scripting language, a separate entity from Apache, both as software and in functionality.
[19:03] <vinse> this is the first channel i've seen on freenode with a family-friendly language policy.  not judging just pointing it out
[19:03] <Homely_Girl> Trek: When will I remember that closing this program means I lose what I've copied!! What was that "up down" command again?
[19:03] <dagny_ta1gart> Trek:  type "history" no quotes
[19:03] <Trek> Homely_Girl: sudo ifconfig ppp0 down up
[19:03] <inkjetunit> hello
[19:03] <christopherdstam> jonzbcc: http://httpd.apache.org/docs/1.3/howto/ssi.html
[19:03] <DexterLB> I have a ~/torrents folder which occupies 100%+several bytes of the disk space, and all software reports that I have no free diskspace left. But fdisk -l shows that that's not the case, and the problem is that ~/torrents is actually a symlink that points to a big folder on another filesystem (smbfs)
[19:04] <capron> zilkomaa,  If u do this root copying --one-file-system is a god option
[19:04] <Homely_Girl> Trek:Thank you.....so I need 2 disconnect first right?
[19:04] <DexterLB> how do I fix the false readings?
[19:04] <Trek> nyaa: type "history" no quotes
[19:04] <jonzbcc> christopherdstam: thank you, but that's what I just linked to in my first question. I just read the whole article (a couple times, now)
[19:04] <nyaa> Trek, thanks
[19:04] <Trek> Homely_Girl: use that when you disconnect, it should refresh your device
[19:04] <nyaa> Trek is there a limit to how far back that wil go?
[19:04] <Homely_Girl> Trek: Thanks brains
[19:04] <Trek> dont know, nyaa
[19:04] <Trek> how do I prevent my system from auto-mapping my IPs into inet6 addresses?
[19:05] <Testfunc23> hello: i try to chainload my windows 7 from grub, but instead of starting the windows bootmanager it just loops back to grub
[19:05] <nyaa> Trek, blast.
[19:05] <dagny_ta1gart> nyaa:  HISTSIZE variable in .bash_profile
[19:05] <inkjetunit> i'm not too happy with 9.10's performance on a dualcore box. would it be PITA to use 3rd party packaged kernel? all the drivers are okay
[19:06] <jonzbcc> christopherdstam: for some reason, after enabling the appropriate module (mod_include) and inserting the proper directives to .htaccess (mentioned in the beginning of the article)  -- I still have no success. It _does_ say, however, in the beginning of the article, that "Note that most configurations contain multiple Options directives that can override each other. "
[19:06] <inkjetunit> it's been a while since i used linux the last time. things have changed a bit :P
[19:06] <inkjetunit> s/changed/advanced/
[19:06] <jonzbcc> christopherdstam: still, I don't know where to start, to tackle what might be overriding what
[19:06] <christopherdstam> jonzbcc: try putting in in ur hhtpd.conf rather than htaccess
[19:07] <Trek> no problem, Homely_Girl
[19:07] <jonzbcc> my apache2.conf is the only file with content in it, whereas my httpd.conf is empty (0 bytes) -- is that abnormal?
[19:07] <MenZa> jonzbcc: Nope.
[19:07] <antonio6> oi
[19:08] <jonzbcc> MenZa: I have no problem reinstalling apache2 -- would that be the easiest way (as I clearly have something funky going on?
[19:08] <christopherdstam> jonzbcc:  try it
[19:08] <antonio6> oi  gatinha  tudo  bem
[19:08] <zilkomaa> capron: OK.
[19:08] <jonzbcc> MenZa:  -- oh, you said _nope_ to "is that _abnormal_?" -- so, nothing seems funky about my server then? .. okay
[19:08] <christopherdstam> jonzbcc: then make sure nothing in either config file is overrrding it
[19:08] <christopherdstam>
[19:08] <capron> inkjetunit,   I also try too get some more speed form 9.10  ,  I now am about to try my compiled kernel with pentium insteed of i586
[19:09] <jonzbcc> christopherdstam: that's the first thing I checked, but its a pretty heafty file, I don't know what would override it
[19:09] <MenZa> jonzbcc: httpd.conf has always been empty on my Apache installs :)=
[19:09] <christopherdstam> jonzbcc: yes, debian uses apache2.conf
[19:09] <aief> http://worldtv.com/israel_in_eurovision/
[19:10] <jonzbcc> MenZa: thanks (I only ask, because I have a httpd.conf and an httpd.conf.orig , which could _only_ mean that at one time it actually had content, that I felt was necessary to backup)
[19:10] <christopherdstam> jobzbcc: so put that option in there, in addition to the htaccess
[19:10] <zilkomaa> Is it true that there is no need for swap if system has 2gb of memory?
[19:10] <nashequilibrium> ok
[19:10] <jonzbcc> christopherdstam: lol, I did that too (its in my apache2.conf and my .htaccess)
[19:10] <inkjetunit> zilkomaa: i'd recommend swap for that amount of ram
[19:10] <Homely_Girl> Trek: Don't think that did anything.....I ran it b4 I disconnected 'n got an error trying it after disconnection 'n then had to delete 'n reinstall the connection in VPN to connect again.
[19:10] <jrib> zilkomaa: no, that depends on what you do with your computer and whether or not you want to hibernate
[19:10] <inkjetunit> zilkomaa: atleast on desktop use
[19:10] <Der> iter, are you still there, as i told you i have encrypted home dirs, they must be mounted first, and they dont auto mount anymore, another problem =[
[19:11] <iter> zilkomaa: it's unlikely that it will be used but you do require a swap partition
[19:11] <jonzbcc> christopherdstam: to be clear, its actually the last directive in the file, so I'm assuming the config file gets read top-down
[19:11] <MenZa> jonzbcc: Ah :)
[19:11] <Homely_Girl> Trek: I don't wanna go Windoze, but am so frustrated! :(
[19:11] <capron> zilkomaa,  No  a swap is kind of allways recommended ,  But not if you have a SDD
[19:11] <Trek> interesting, Homely_Girl.  i'm not sure why it would be doing that
[19:11] <christopherdstam> jonzbcc: check this: http://httpd.apache.org/docs/1.3/mod/core.html#options  and make sure that ur not using any options that would override it
[19:11] <anarkissed> yer tellin me.... i cant get a wireless card to work fo the life of me
[19:11] <Trek> i'm out of options, Homely_Girl, unfortunately i'm going to hand this off to someone else
[19:11] <jonzbcc> MenZa: and--- oddly enough, _both_ the original and current files are 0 bytes (you'd think that at least my .orig version would have content
[19:11] <bob-has-an-imgb1> thx everyone linux works fine now so far
[19:12] <Der> iter, are you there?
[19:12] <Homely_Girl> Trek: I'll try that command if it ever seems to have knocked itself offline! :) Thanks for your help hon!
[19:12] <zilkomaa> Ok just curious, i have 2gb memory and have 2g swap is that bad? =)
[19:12] <iter> Der: yes, mount it as per this: http://blog.dustinkirkland.com/2009/03/mounting-your-encrypted-home-from.html\
[19:12] <jonzbcc> christopherdstam: thanks, I'm reading it now.
[19:12] <iter> zilkomaa: no that is fine
[19:12] <jalons> zilkomaa: not bad at all depending on your usage
[19:12] <MenZa> jonzbcc: Well, it stashes everything in apache2.conf iirc, so why the files are even included is beyond me.
[19:13] <ccraze> iter: Thanks for your help earlier.  I'm going to use a cable to enter diagnostics mode on the drive and give it a different model number.  (preview.tinyurl.com/y9cl554)  If that doesn't work, the model change would at least let me flash it with the actual firmware that would be accepted.
[19:13] <anarkissed> Has anyone had anyluck with realtek wireless adapters?
[19:13] <inkjetunit> hey. are kernel modules packaged separately from the kernel image itself?
[19:13] <zilkomaa> Okay, thank you all nice to hear that.
[19:13] <iter> ccraze: cool
[19:13] <Hilikus> can i update alsa by just using the lucid package for alsa-base? i'm using karmic
[19:13] <iter> ccraze: hope it works out and you save $$ :)
[19:14] <capron> zilkomaa,  It is good then it can hibrate ,  If you have two disk you can make a swap on both and linux will kind of raid this swap
[19:14] <sebsebseb> Hilikus: not a good idea to try and use lucid stuff in karmic
[19:14] <ccraze> iter: Yeah, for sure.  Thanks again for your help.
[19:14] <jonzbcc> well, its definitely not a matter of me having "Options none" set anywhere: grep -ir "Option" ./* | grep -i none
[19:14] <jonzbcc> ./sites-available/default-ssl.orig:     #   none, optional, require and optional_no_ca.  Depth is a
[19:14] <jonzbcc> ./sites-available/default-ssl:  #   none, optional, require and optional_no_ca.  Depth is a
[19:14] <Hilikus> sebsebseb: so what's the recommended way to upgrade alsa?
[19:14] <sebsebseb> Hilikus: there might be a ppa for a later alsa, altough what's wrong with the one karmic comes with?
[19:14] <soreau> inkjetunit: That is a subjective question. Anyone can write a kernel module, so yes. There can be modules that are not part of the official linux kernel
[19:14] <anarkissed> why would a device come up as unclaimed im lshw?
[19:14] <anarkissed> *in
[19:14] <sebsebseb> Hilikus: (started typing  your reply, before you even asked the question)
[19:15] <erUSUL> Hilikus: install linux-backports-modules-alsa-karmic-generic
[19:15] <erUSUL> !info linux-backports-modules-alsa-karmic-generic
[19:15] <Hilikus> sebsebseb: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/374002  thats the problem
[19:15] <Testfunc23> hello: i try to chainload my windows 7 from grub, but instead of starting the windows bootmanager it just loops back to grub
[19:15] <seanbrystone> ustream down?
[19:15] <h0stBrz> somebody with experience in ubuntu + macbook?
[19:15] <seanbrystone> wrong chat sorry
[19:16] <iter> seanbrystone: watching puppy cam?
[19:16] <inkjetunit> soreau: ok. i'm trying to figure out if i could try a 3rd party kernel image without messing up things
[19:16] <Der> iter, i dont know my passphrase, plus it dosent automatically read anything from my system, eeven tho it shud
[19:16] <jonzbcc> h0stBrz: yes, I have some experience of such
[19:16] <anarkissed> mbr needs to be repaired testfunc
[19:16] <christopherdst-1> member:jonzbcc: are u using -IncludesNOEXEC or -Includes anywhere in any config files or htaccess?
[19:16] <bastid_raZor>  /wc 13
[19:17] <zdenek> \j #python-cs
[19:17] <capron> inkjetunit,  I 3rd party kernel sound intressing can you me a link ?
[19:17] <zdenek> join #python-cs
[19:17] <paul_> Does anybody know what would cause a battery notification icon to not appear on a laptop running Ubuntu? Or how to get it back? Its an aspire 6930G . Ive googled about to no avail :(
[19:17] <inkjetunit> capron: i'm not sure if there's one
[19:17] <soreau> inkjetunit: Typically, if the image is from a reliable source and was configured correctly, it should be ok to try. You can keep an entry of your current kernel in your boot loader config just in case
[19:17] <seanbrystone> iter, watching Leo Laporte
[19:17] <iter> Der: it's your login password
[19:17] <anarkissed> Testfunc:http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/ubuntu/reinstall-ubuntu-grub-bootloader-after-windows-wipes-it-out/
[19:17] <vitito> ping
[19:18] <vitito> ping Linkadmin
[19:18] <vitito> lol
[19:18] <Der> iter, no iter, i recoreded a long passphrase, plus i already tried that
[19:18] <ZimCS> Hey guys.  I am not really new to linux, but usually have the installer partition the drives for me.  This time I would like to do it myself using a software RAID 1 setup.  If I make a boot partition and and apply it to RAID, if disk 1 fails and is removed from the system and the system is rebooted, will drive to be able to boot the system using GRUB?
[19:18] <jonzbcc> christopherdstam: well, I just read over that whole section, but it only confirmed for me that I am indeed properly utilizing directives. :(
[19:18] <capron> inkjetunit,  There are some 3 party options in the ubuntu kernel
[19:18] <zdenek> who
[19:18] <inkjetunit> soreau: how about modules in linux? are 2.6.x modules compatible with 2.6.y and so on?
[19:18] <vitito> does anyone know about a IRC channel to talk about ettercao
[19:19] <iter> Der: if you encrypt things and cannot remember the password it's goin to be difficult :)
[19:19] <vitito> ettercap*
[19:19] <erUSUL> ZimCS: you have to install grub in the mbr of both disks afaik
[19:19] <jonzbcc> I would think Apache SSI would be the most _simple_ thing to implement
[19:19] <erUSUL> !raid | ZimCS
[19:19] <christopherdst-1> jonzbcc: ok, so what makes u think it's not working? maybe ur code it not right?
[19:19] <mengu> hi. can i change the character encoding of the distro? i'm using jaunty.
[19:19] <erUSUL> !locales
[19:19] <ZimCS> erebus, thanks.  The tutorial I read the guy did the same. However, he only had  swap, /root and /home partitions so I didnt know if it was different
[19:20] <soreau> inkjetunit: Generally, kernel modules compiled against a certain kernel version can only be used with that version of the kernel.
[19:20] <ZimCS> erUSUL*
[19:20] <Der> iter, its not a password, its very very long passphrase, lots of unknown randomness, i can never remeber it, plus all my programming projects are on it, i really need this :(
[19:20] <jonzbcc> christopherdst-1: I wouldn't think so. this is what I have (I typed it, while reading straight through my transparent terminal to the Apache Docs page: grep -ir "Option" ./* | grep -i none
[19:20] <jonzbcc> ./sites-available/default-ssl.orig:     #   none, optional, require and optional_no_ca.  Depth is a
[19:20] <jonzbcc> ./sites-available/default-ssl:  #   none, optional, require and optional_no_ca.  Depth is a
[19:20] <h0stBrz> somebody can help me with native installation on macbook?
[19:21] <inkjetunit> soreau: thanks for info
[19:21] <jonzbcc> christopherdst-1: ignore that last paste, I meant:                        <!--#config errmsg="[It appears that you don't know how to use SSI]" --> <p>This document last modified: <!--#flastmod file="./test.shtml" --></p> <!--#include virtual="./content/home.shtml" -->
[19:21] <olskolirc> how do I bring up the kubuntu resolution display box from the terminal
[19:21] <trineox> Der not to be negative but you have a serious issue
[19:21] <trineox> Der since you can not remember your "random" passphrase
[19:22] <olskolirc> sorry wrong window
[19:22] <sysdoc> Does anyone have a working solution to exporting the package list to a txt file and installing on another install?
[19:22] <VCoolio> olskolirc: open it, then run 'xprop', click that window and read the output for the command
[19:22] <emilv_> hei'
[19:23] <Besogon> sysdoc: open synaptic
[19:23] <emilv_> Hello??
[19:23] <johnzorn> for a laptop with 4g ram which will use suspend mode, whats a good size for swap partition?
[19:23] <Hilikus> erUSUL: so once i install that package what do i need to do? or it automatically updates the modules?
[19:23] <highfiver> hello...i nees help installing the daneel-ai client for thousand parsec...anyone?
[19:23] <sysdoc> Besogon, has to be from the cli
[19:23] <jonzbcc> !hi | emilv_
[19:23] <Der> trineox, thats what ive been trying to say since ages, everything in my /home dir is Extremely highly important, and my system is messed up big time, and nobody knows how to help, more than 1400 users, and not even one "KNOWS"
[19:23] <christopherdst-1> jonzbcc: check this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP#Virtual%20Hosts or https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ServerSideIncludes
[19:24] <sysdoc> Where can one get a list of the options for ubottu?
[19:24] <christopherdst-1> jonzbcc: ur probably gonna have to resort to google from here, i don't have any clue whats wrong
[19:24] <sebsebseb> !bot | sysdoc
[19:24] <judget> I just did an install but my username password doesnt work any suggestions IM a DUMMY
[19:24] <trineox> Der well, basically you will have to hack your own system to recover it...no other way.
[19:24] <inkjetunit> soreau: can you hint me about runtime configurable kernel options? similar to kern. and vm. sysctls under BSDs?
[19:24] <sysdoc> sebsebseb, thanks
[19:24] <sebsebseb> sysdoc: np
[19:24] <jonzbcc> :( IRC is always my last resort after googling, haha. (its okay its not a critical server, just a personal project) -- thanks a ton for the links :)
[19:24] <judget> I tried to login as root
[19:25] <sebsebseb> judget: you don't log in to root
[19:25] <judget> well I was desperate
[19:25] <Der> trineox, ill do wtv it takes to recover my source code back, i need it, but its not possible to recover that :(
[19:25] <sebsebseb> judget: well  you can get root  basically via command line, but... anyway  adding new users and chaning passwords is easy
[19:26] <judget> but how can i logon to do that if my user pw done work
[19:26] <sebsebseb> judget: get into  recovery mode from the Grub boot loader, get the root prompt.  adduser  username   to add one,  passwd username to change the password
[19:26] <Besogon> sysdoc: I don't know what is "the cli". but if you open first menu in the synaptic you will find option for save some chosen packages in txt file. Then you can run that file to download the packages and install them by dpkg command on other comuter
[19:26] <trineox> Der you will have to think had about that passphrase, and if and when you figure it out, you may want to consider a different passphrase
[19:26] <sebsebseb> judget: username being  what you have choosen to use
[19:27] <ActionParsnip> yo yo yo
[19:27] <christopherdst-1> besogom: cli = command line interface
[19:27] <Or1on> i'm thinking of setting up a vpn, is PPTP the way to go? linux & windows clients
[19:27] <trineox> Der such as one with lower upper letters with numbers but something you can remember that is still random
[19:27] <highfiver> anyone with tp experience?
[19:27] <Der> trineox, its im,possible to remember or know, its complete randomness out of randomness combined with randomness...
[19:27] <sipher> Or1on depending on the type of vpn server you are connecting to...pptp would work for a Microsoft based VPN tunnel.
[19:27] <erUSUL> Hilikus: reboot so the nrew modules are used
[19:28] <Hilikus> erUSUL: ok, thanks
[19:28] <ActionParsnip> reboot, blasphemy!
[19:28] <Or1on> sipher, I'm setting up a server.
[19:28] <trineox> Der well how did you access it before?
[19:28] <Der> trineox, it used to auto mount at login
[19:28] <sipher> Or1on what type of clients are you looking to support? Or are you doing site to site vpn?
[19:28] <Schui> hi.. im having a bit of trouble with my sound, i tried to install alsa so my sound would work in a game. however, now i dont get any sound in firefox, and now nothing is showing up for "devices" in pulseaudio sound preferences.. please help!
[19:28] <jef91> Anyone here ever get a remote working under Ubuntu?
[19:28] <glphvgacs> hi, apt-get install openssh-server says pkg is not avail. (samba karmic) /etc/apt/sources.list looks fine, I think
[19:29] <judget> IM in rescue mode now
[19:29] <k0d3g3ar> Orlon:  If you have an iPhone or Windows clients, you'll probably want PPTP
[19:29] <ActionParsnip> !hcl | jef91
[19:29] <trineox> Der ewww...oh boy...
[19:29] <judget> as i remember it should give an option to logon as root?
[19:29] <jrib> glphvgacs: this is #ubuntu :)
[19:29] <k0d3g3ar> Orlon:  Its very hard to do Samba without PPTP
[19:29] <sebsebseb> judget: yep
[19:29] <judget> ok thanks
[19:29] <sebsebseb> judget:  well to get the system as root in the shell sure
[19:30] <glphvgacs> jrib: where should I go? #ubuntu-server?
[19:30] <sysdoc> Besogon, tried that didn't work worth a rip[
[19:30] <judget> once i get on as root I know what to do
[19:30] <mawst> what's the command to make a samba user again?
[19:30] <jrib> glphvgacs: try again after « sudo apt-get update » and then pastebin your sources.list as well as the output in full from your install command
[19:30] <Or1on> sipher, its just for my personal Internet use, I like to route everything over the VPN when I'm on open wireless networks. I will be using windows and ubuntu
[19:30] <ActionParsnip> mawst: sudo smbpasswd -a username
[19:30] <k0d3g3ar> mawst:   www.letmegooglethatforyou.com
[19:30] <inkjetunit> judget: sudo su - :P
[19:30] <Trek> judget, we can;t help you get on root, its against CoC
[19:30] <glphvgacs> jrib: ok
[19:30] <Besogon> Or1on: net in my university uses a vpn with which we connect to internet. (you will need RIP for pptp(vpn))
[19:31] <ActionParsnip> !google | k0d3g3ar
[19:31] <sebsebseb> Trek: no he is using recovery mode to make a new user account, or re set a password, once he has the shell
[19:31] <Trek> where are the openssh-server config files stored?
[19:31] <Trek> ah, now I get it sebsebseb
[19:31] <ActionParsnip> inkjetunit: sudo -s  is advised over sudo su
[19:31] <jrib> Trek: /etc/ssh/
[19:31] <jrib> sudo -i  better
[19:31] <inkjetunit> ActionParsnip: ok
[19:31] <sebsebseb> Trek: also  uhmm the COC is  about being polite and such as far as I know, not about  setting a root account password being the big no of Ubuntu
[19:31] <Trek> jrib: what file do I edit to set various commands on it?
[19:32] <jrib> Trek: erm, what?
[19:32] <ActionParsnip> jrib: -s uses the users profile -i uses roots afaik
[19:32] <Trek> jrib: where can I edit what p[ort it listens on, what users to allow, etc?
[19:32] <Trek> jrib: what file under there
[19:32] <Schui> to elaborate my problem..  i would like to revert my changes (get rid of alsa and just use pulseaudio) dont care about the game just need to get my sound to work, lol
[19:32] <jrib> Trek: /etc/ssh/sshd_config
[19:32] <Trek> thanks
[19:33] <ActionParsnip> schui: could reinstall the package from repos
[19:33] <arand> How can I install all missing dependencies, but not the package itself?
[19:34] <highfiver> any help with thousand parsec?
[19:34] <ActionParsnip> arand: sudo apt-get -f install    will fix all deps you need
[19:34] <Trek> jrib: after I mess with its settings, how do I restart the SSH server
[19:34] <jrib> ActionParsnip: -i will sanitize the environment (including $HOME).  Not doing this could cause issues sometimes
[19:34] <ActionParsnip> arand: you can always use dpkg to remove the package you dont want if it gets installed
[19:34] <jrib> Trek: sudo service ssh restart
[19:34] <inkjetunit> &part
[19:34] <inkjetunit> fail :P
[19:34] <Trek> k thanks
[19:35] <ActionParsnip> jrib: gotcha
[19:35] <mawst> I think I'm in love.
[19:35] <mawst> :(
[19:35] <ActionParsnip> jrib: learning every day :)
[19:35] <Schui> action: how would i get rid of alsa? it seems to me like its causing the problem
[19:36] <mawst> alsa > *
[19:36] <mawst> at least 5 years ago
[19:36] <mawst> it was
[19:36] <arand> ActionParsnip: That won't get me the dependecies without getting *the* package, or it will mark all the deps as auto-removable when I remove the package..
[19:36] <glphvgacs> jrib: http://pastebin.com/m28ecbfd8
[19:36] <ActionParsnip> !sound
[19:36] <jrib> ActionParsnip: what you described is right, what I said is just a consequence of what you said.  -s has its uses, but usually if someone wants something they want to behave like a "root prompt" -i is a better idea
[19:37] <ActionParsnip> arand: then tell apt-get to only download the packages, you can then use dpkg to install individually
[19:37] <ActionParsnip> jrib: duly adopted (not something i use but can advise others better)
[19:38] <anarkissed> <-----has issues
[19:38] <glphvgacs> jrib: never mind, now it's working
[19:38] <Trek> jrib: one last question: where's the sudoers file stored?
[19:38] <jrib> glphvgacs: ok
[19:38] <ActionParsnip> !details | anarkissed
[19:39] <arand> ActionParsnip: hmm, yea that works, cheers.
[19:39] <anarkissed> lshw in 9.10 sees my wireless adapter as "UNCLAIMED" anyone had this issue?
[19:40] <ActionParsnip> trek: in /etc i wouldnt go playing with it as you may lose sudo ability in the installed system and need to use live cd to roll back. make a backup copy of the current one
[19:40] <ActionParsnip> anarkissed: websearch for the product line in: sudo lshw -C network
[19:40] <ActionParsnip> anarkissed: you will find guides
[19:41] <JoshuaL> how can i make it so that grub starts ubuntu automaticly without waiting x seconds?
[19:41] <Trek> ActionParsnip: I've got working backups of the sudoers file, i'm messing with only one line: adding insult capabilities and making it ask for the pasword every time
[19:41] <ActionParsnip> trek: haha nice
[19:41] <arand> JoshuaL: edit /etc/default/grub
[19:41] <Trek> ActionParsnip and jrib: I found my old threads pertaining to this on ubuntuforums.org, i'll figure it out now
[19:41] <Trek> :)
[19:41] <anarkissed> realtek8191se
[19:41] <Trek> ActionParsnip: the sudoers file is the same on all 3 of my computers :P
[19:41] <Esteban> hola
[19:41] <ActionParsnip> joshua: look in what arand said. you will need to run: sudo update-grub after
[19:42] <Esteban> buenas tardes
[19:42] <ActionParsnip> anarkissed: there you go, thats the wifi chip.
[19:42] <JoshuaL> arand, ActionParsnip ty
[19:42] <Pirate_Hunter> where can I get involved with the chat for lucid, it seems the chat system on the site is not connecting guessing too many users online
[19:42] <sebsebseb> !es | Esteban
[19:42] <ActionParsnip> !lucid | pirate_hunter
[19:43] <lungan> brontosaurusrex, I have downloaded avidemux, but I don't know which formats i should choose when changing he file to .mp4, I've heard something that theres the audio I need to change
[19:43] <anarkissed> ive tried compiling the drivers for it, ndiswrapper and other compatible drivers.....does unclaimed mean its disabled?
[19:43] <lungan> Having some trouble with .mkv and .m2ts files, since my tv just takes .mp4 files, how do I fix that problem?
[19:43] <Lint01> if I tell the installer that I want root user, can I later change it to use sudo, or I must reinstall the system?
[19:43] <ActionParsnip> anarkissed: try: sudo iwlist scan
[19:43] <Pirate_Hunter> ActionParsnip, just came from work watching the stream http://www.ustream.tv/channel/at-home-with-jono-bacon however would like to get involved in the chat, can i do it from here?
[19:43] <ActionParsnip> !noroot | lint01
[19:44] <Besogon> lungan: mp4 is shit
[19:44] <Lint01> !root > lint01
[19:44] <ActionParsnip> lint01: you cant tell the installer you want a root account. its simply disabled
[19:44] <ActionParsnip> !ohmy | besogon
[19:44] <Lint01> ActionParsnip: no, it asks whether I want to enable root account
[19:45] <edeca> Lint01: What are you installing, exactly?
[19:45] <Besogon> That wasn't rude!
[19:45] <ActionParsnip> lint01: what release
[19:45] <edeca> Lint01: No recent ubuntu using the normal installer has asked that, to the best of my knowledge
[19:45] <lungan> Besogon, Ok but the TV just take mp4 and avi
[19:45] <ActionParsnip> besogon: bad language isnt tolerated here
[19:45] <edeca> Perhaps some of the advanced/expert/alternate installers do
[19:45] <Trek> okay, the system won't let me save my changes to sudoers
[19:45] <Trek> any help?
[19:45] <Lint01> ActionParsnip: 8.04 with text installer
[19:45] <edeca> Trek: Did you use: visudo
[19:45] <ActionParsnip> trek: you need to open it with: gksudo gedit
[19:45] <edeca> Trek: That is the correct way to edit your sudoers file.  And you will want to sudo it, so you can save
[19:46] <edeca> ActionParsnip: It is not safe to edit sudoers/passwd/group directly.  visudo/vipw/vigr should be used
[19:46] <Trek> ActionParsnip: I used visudo to open it before, but the issue is that it won't let me save regardless
[19:46] <edeca> lungan: That's not helpful, because MP4 and AVI are just containers.  You need to find out what decoders the TV has
[19:46] <edeca> Trek: Did you sudo it?
[19:46] <ActionParsnip> lint01: considering ubuntu doesnt support having a root password i dont think you are installing a canonical release personally
[19:46] <edeca> Trek: sudo visudo
[19:46] <edeca> Trek: You need to be root in order to edit the file :)
[19:47]  * edeca spots a catch 22
[19:47] <lungan> edeca, H264 and AAC seems to work
[19:47] <ActionParsnip> edeca: gotcha (dont use it myself but good to know)
[19:47] <edeca> lungan: That's useful information.
[19:47] <Trek> ActionParsnip / edeca: the command I was told to use ont he forums was sudo env VISUAL=gedit visudo
[19:47] <edeca> ActionParsnip: I'm sure on a system where there is one admin it is perfectly safe
[19:47] <blakkheim> use vi, not gedit
[19:47] <edeca> Trek: That's safe :)
[19:47] <ActionParsnip> trek: that will run as a user which has no write access
[19:47] <Trek> ActionParsnip / edeca: so yes, it runs, and I"m the only admin on the system (its my netbook, for crying out loud)
[19:48] <Trek> ActionParsnip / edeca: should I switch to superuser and do it that way?
[19:48] <edeca> Trek: Yes.
[19:48] <lungan> edeca, Yeah, but having problems to encode the video to H264 and AAC with container mp4
[19:48] <ActionParsnip> trek: still needs sudo
[19:48] <edeca> Trek: For me, the following works (I just tested): $ sudo VISUAL=gedit visudo
[19:48] <Trek> ActionParsnip / edeca: okay, I've got root access (sudo su)
[19:48] <ZykoticK9> lungan, check out HandBrake
[19:48] <edeca> ZykoticK9: Good recommendation :)
[19:48] <ActionParsnip> lungan: and winff
[19:49] <Trek> ActionParsnip / edeca: it only opens up sudoers.tmp, not sudoers
[19:49] <blakkheim> ffmpeg
[19:49] <Trek> ActionParsnip / edeca: still wont let me write
[19:49] <blakkheim> Trek: that's for a sanity check, it overwrites the real one if your edit passed
[19:49] <edeca> Trek: That's the correct behaviour.  What happens when you try and save?
[19:50] <Trek> ActionParsnip / edeca / blakkheim: "Could not save the file /etc/sudoers.  You are trying to save the file on a read-only disk."
[19:50] <Trek> and i'm logged in as root
[19:50] <edeca> Er, is it mounted read only?
[19:50] <blakkheim> Trek: pastebin your /etc/fstab
[19:50] <edeca> Trek: The following might help: $ mount -o remount,rw /
[19:50] <edeca> Trek: But yes, pastebin your /etc/fstab and the output of `mount`
[19:50] <Trek> ActionParsnip / edeca / blakkheim: its the FileSystem drive, its auto-mounted
[19:51] <edeca> Weird
[19:51] <Mack> can anyone help with installing the ioncube loaders?
[19:52] <judget> thanks everyone for the help I was having a brain fart
[19:52] <trism> Trek: /etc/sudoers has permissions that make it read-only, it has nothing to do with how the filesystem is mounted (/boot/grub/grub.cfg will give you the same error if you try to edit it directly, without chmod'ing first)
[19:53] <edeca> trism: But root ignores those permissions, correct?
[19:53] <Trek> edeca / blakkheim: http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/m714c12da
[19:53] <trism> edeca: no, it doesn't
[19:53] <Trek> trism: reference the pastebin.  how would I write to sudoers then?
[19:53] <edeca> trism: No, you're right
[19:53] <blakkheim> >remount-ro
[19:53] <edeca> Trek: chmod +w /etc/sudoers first
[19:53] <blakkheim> Trek: that's why
[19:53] <edeca> Ah
[19:54] <edeca> Trek: The following might help: $ mount -o remount,rw /
[19:54] <edeca> trism: visudo sorts out file permissions for you
[19:54] <edeca> trism: My /etc/sudoers is -w for all, but visudo has no issue
[19:55] <edeca> The problem is the read-only remount
[19:55] <trism> edeca: yes, I have no idea why that isn't working
[19:55] <Trek> edeca: chmod +w /etc/sudoers worked, it wasnt working otherwise
[19:56] <edeca> You have one weird system :)
[19:56] <cchapman> is it legal to distribute the Citrix ICA client for linux?
[19:56] <daftykins> cchapman: i'd imagine citrix may have more info than #ubuntu on that
[19:56] <_Trullo> isn't that free?
[19:56] <aidam> hi
[19:57] <edeca> _Trullo: Free != redistributable
[19:57] <cchapman> daftykins, that place is non responsive
[19:57] <Mack> does anyone here know how to install the ioncube loaders?
[19:57] <erUSUL> cchapman: ask citrix
[19:57] <edeca> cchapman: Well if the shoe shop is closed, I'm not going to buy sneakers from a cake shop ;)
[19:57] <daftykins> edeca: lol love that response :)
[19:58] <Trek> edeca: did I mention I'm using NetBook Remix at the time?
[19:58] <Trek> edeca: could that be the reason?
[19:58] <edeca> Trek: I love UNR :)
[19:58] <edeca> Trek: I doubt it.
[19:58] <Diverdude> What IRC client does people in here use?
[19:58] <Trek> *shrugs*
[19:58] <Trek> !ot | Diverdude
[19:58] <blakkheim> Diverdude: irssi
[19:58] <cchapman> i was asking here because i have it packaged into a valid and working deb package for 64bit
[19:58] <onaogh> xchat
[19:58] <ActionParsnip> edeca: i find it a bit heavy although it is a nice ui
[19:58] <Trek> edeca: i guess its one of those things I'll have to write an alias for under root...
[19:58] <xTheGoat121x> Afternoon everyone
[19:59] <Neter> I'm on Ubuntu 9.10(Karmic Koala) using an Nvidia GE Force MX 420 video card and the latest nvdia driver but i can't achieve a resoltution higher than 640x480. Any help please?
[19:59] <ActionParsnip> diverdude: right now darairc otherwise pidgin
[19:59] <erUSUL> Neter: gksudo nvidia-settings
[19:59] <erUSUL> Neter: run that
[19:59] <Neter> thankyou erUSUL
[19:59] <blakkheim> Neter: i recommend using a video card that isn't 8 years old
[19:59] <ActionParsnip> neter: run: gksudo jockey-gtk
[19:59] <Amanda98> hello
[20:00] <Amanda98> hello hola
[20:00] <ActionParsnip> neter: i think it uses the 96 driver
[20:00] <actarus> hello sorry, phpmyadmin Login without a password is forbidden by configuration (see AllowNoPassword)
[20:00] <erUSUL> !hi | Amanda98
[20:00] <crugeman> hello is Lantjie here
[20:00] <Amanda98> hi erusul
[20:00] <gilan> ./system
[20:01] <vinse> what's wrong with "adduser --group foogroup foo".  i get error "specify only one name in this mode".  no error if i dont include --group option, so i guess im misunderstanding what it does?
[20:01] <Trek> goty another question: the wireless card is being assigned interface name eth0.  how can I change it to wlan0?
[20:01] <vinse> it doesnt add the user to the group foogroup?
[20:01] <linusoleander> How do I starta script to leave it in the background?
[20:01] <Amanda98> hola quien de aqui sabe español?
[20:01] <blakkheim> linusoleander: script.sh &
[20:01] <vinse> linusoleander: nohup
[20:01] <edeca> !es | Amanda98
[20:01] <Neter> the Nvidia X Server Settings only displays 640x480
[20:01] <linusoleander> blakkheim: thanks
[20:02] <erUSUL> !es | Amanda98
[20:02] <ActionParsnip> linusoleander: or run from alt+f2 dialogue
[20:02] <edeca> vinse: Check usermod or groupmod
[20:02] <Trek> got another question: the wireless card is being assigned interface name eth0.  how can I change it to wlan0?
[20:02] <Amanda98> hola edeca
[20:02] <xTheGoat121x> Anyone in here using Pidgin in Karmic?
[20:02] <Amanda98> que tal rstas
[20:02] <ActionParsnip> neter: did you install the proprietary driver?
[20:02] <Neter> yes @ Action
[20:02] <vinse> edeca: im afraid i dont know what you mean by "check"
[20:02] <ActionParsnip> xthegoat121x: i do
[20:02] <edeca> vinse: Check those two commands
[20:02] <Amanda98> todos los que hablan aqui hablan solo ingles no?
[20:02] <edeca> vinse: Or just edit the group file, sudo vigr
[20:03] <m4v> Amanda98: /join #ubuntu-es-offtopic
[20:03] <JoshuaL> i have done once: export http_proxy="<proxy here>", after that I have unset it but each time I reboot it's back. how can i fix this?
[20:03] <Amanda98> quien sepa español que diga si
[20:03] <ActionParsnip> neter: maybe you need a base xorg.conf file to specify refresh rates if your monitor isnt providing info
[20:03] <Lint01> so I have to use sudo because of unix restrictions of 1970's ?
[20:03] <Amanda98> y si no me contestais me enfado
[20:03] <Trek> got another question: the wireless card is being assigned interface name eth0.  how can I change it to wlan0?
[20:03] <packrat_mobile> good afternoon gents
[20:03] <Flare183> !es | Amanda98
[20:03] <ActionParsnip> lint01: no its a security measure
[20:03] <Oins> Hi, i have a problem with my sound (ubuntu 9.10) Soundcard is displayed under settings, but i can't hear anything. How could i find out what goes wrong? Sound worked before my new installation of 9.10
[20:03] <xTheGoat121x> ActionParsnip, what version are you using, out of curiousity?
[20:03] <Cod3_Break3r> i have the Broadcom Corporation BCM4312 802.11b/g (rev 01) and i have a lot of problems with the card in ubuntu 9.10 how can i fix it?
[20:03] <ActionParsnip> oins: check nothing is muted
[20:04] <JoshuaL> Oins, did you check if its not muted?
[20:04] <Amanda98> si
[20:04] <Amanda98> si
[20:04] <Amanda98> si
[20:04] <blakkheim> !op | Amanda98
[20:04] <FloodBot2> Amanda98: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:04] <xfact> When I am trying to choose best server for me in 'Software source' every time it freezing, What to do? (OS: Ubuntu Karmic)
[20:04] <Amanda98> i
[20:04] <ActionParsnip> xthegoat121x the one on the pidgin ppa
[20:04] <FloodBot2> Amanda98: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:04] <Amanda98> sisisisisisisisisi
[20:04] <Flare183> !wireless | Cod3_Break3r
[20:04] <JoshuaL> i have done once: export http_proxy="<proxy here>", after that I have unset it but each time I reboot it's back. how can i fix this?
[20:04] <Cod3_Break3r> yes man
[20:04] <xTheGoat121x> ActionParsnip, hmmm that doesn't tell me much, cuz I've got a problem with 2.6.5 being incredibly unstable.
[20:05] <edeca> JoshuaL: It is probably being set either by Gnome (from the proxy preferences) or your ~/.bashrc or ~/.bash_profile
[20:05] <Cod3_Break3r> but in the version 9.04 i dont have problems
[20:05] <Flare183> Cod3_Break3r: btw if you need help with it more let me know.
[20:05] <Oins> Yes, not muted and maximum turned on
[20:05] <ActionParsnip> joshual: add it to $HOME/.bashrc
[20:05] <JoshuaL> edeca, i already reset it in the proxy preferences.
[20:05] <Cod3_Break3r> yesterday i upgrade to 9.10 but the card doesnt work
[20:05] <packrat_mobile> i haz a question about ubuntu duudes?
[20:05] <edeca> JoshuaL: And clicked "apply systemwide" ?
[20:05] <JoshuaL> ActionParsnip, but isnt that a bit dirty for something I want to be unset by default?
[20:05] <JoshuaL> edeca, yes
[20:05] <ActionParsnip> xthegoat121x: im on my g1 phone now so cant give the version number. go see which version the ppa has. i use that one
[20:05] <vinse> edeca: usermod works, but i still dont understand what's wrong with "useradd --group foogroup foo".  but i guess i'll just do it in two commands
[20:05] <Trek> got another question: the wireless card is being assigned interface name eth0.  is there a way to change the interface name that it is assigned?
[20:06] <edeca> JoshuaL: Weird.  I find that thing buggy.  Perhaps like ActionParsnip said, put the unset in your ~/.bashrc as a workaround
[20:06] <edeca> vinse: useradd is creating a new user, not adding one
[20:06] <edeca> vinse: Er, not modifying one
[20:06] <JoshuaL> edeca, ActionParsnip; ill do that. is it a bug then or?
[20:06] <xTheGoat121x> ActionParsnip, Got it, sorry. Have you experienced any kind of instability?
[20:06] <Amanda98> hello
[20:06] <packrat_mobile> guys turn on NPR....
[20:06] <ardian> What ipv6 are you guys using ?
[20:06] <edeca> JoshuaL: Possibly.  You need to find out where it is being set.
[20:07] <packrat_mobile> seriously...theyre talking about cyber attacks....
[20:07] <xfact>  When I am trying to choose best server for me for downloads in 'Software source' every time it freezing, What to do? (OS: Ubuntu Karmic)
[20:07] <Amanda98> i love you e deca
[20:07] <xfact> Or why it is happening
[20:07] <JoshuaL> edeca, and that is the question :p
[20:07] <xfact> ?
[20:07] <Myrtti> packrat_mobile: discuss it at #ubuntu-offtopic?
[20:07] <JoshuaL> i wonder where the gnome proxy settings stores it..
[20:07] <edeca> JoshuaL: You _could_ grep /etc and your ~ for the proxy address
[20:07] <Amanda98> qien sepa español que diga si
[20:07] <skullcandy> @packrat_mobile ddos mabye :S ?
[20:07] <Amanda98> si
[20:07] <Amanda98> si
[20:07] <Amanda98> si
[20:07] <FloodBot2> Amanda98: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:07] <Cod3_Break3r> aki yo ablo espanol
[20:07] <vinse> edeca: i realize that, but man useradd says --group is a valid option
[20:07] <Flare183> !es | Amanda98
[20:07] <JoshuaL> edeca, good idea, ill try that. thanks
[20:07] <Cod3_Break3r> de donde eres?
[20:08] <vinse> errr wait, no it doesnt
[20:08] <vinse> hrmm it's -g not --group, nfi where i got that from
[20:08] <vinse> thx
[20:08] <packrat_mobile> does ubuntu come with nmap installed on it? (my ubuntu question)
[20:08] <ActionParsnip> trek use http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1007285 or wicd can simply be told what interface is the wifi
[20:09] <edeca> packrat_mobile: Not by default, but it is installable
[20:09] <Der> I fixed my problem, thnx 2 those 2 ppl who helped me here, i cant remember your names, but thanks to you
[20:09] <ActionParsnip> packrat_mobile: not by default. it can be installed though
[20:09] <onaogh> `set` doesn't have manual
[20:09] <edeca> onaogh: man bash
[20:09] <onaogh> edeca, thanks
[20:09] <edeca> onaogh: It's not a command, it's a bash extra
[20:09] <edeca> packrat_mobile: Don't private message me, please
[20:09] <vinse> wait, no it is --group, i'm not understanding :/
[20:10] <packrat_mobile> sorry edeca
[20:11] <xfact>  When I am trying to choose best server for me for downloads in 'Software source' every time it freezing, What to do? (OS: Ubuntu Karmic)
[20:11] <tasslehoff> I'm running 32-bit Karmic on my MacBook Pro 5.1 which has 4GB ram. "free -m" shows a total of only 2748. Is this something I should handle by installing a kernel with PAE?
[20:11] <vinse> krikey!  i get it now: useradd --group foo means "add group foo" while "useradd --group foogroup foo" doesnt mean anything at all
[20:11] <vinse> i wanted useradd foo foogroup ;)
[20:11] <djm62> I enabled karmic-proposed repository and since reboot the touchpad does not respond on my eeepc 901.  I can navigate the system fine keyboard-only, but how do I troubleshoot in our new no-XF86-config world?
[20:11] <tasslehoff> I don't want to reinstall 64-bit if I don't have to.
[20:11] <arand> tasslehoff: That would be one way to utilise all mem yes, or install 64bit ubuntu
[20:11] <ActionParsnip> tasslehoff: thats the max for 32bit. you can install a pae kernel to get the rest
[20:12] <ActionParsnip> !pae
[20:12] <ActionParsnip> !find pae
[20:12] <tasslehoff> arand: ActionParsnip: thanks. I'll go with PAE for now, and download the 64 bit version of 10.04
[20:12] <Spanglish_7776> 32 only supports up to 3gb
[20:13] <Spanglish_7776> 32bit*
[20:13] <Der> t
[20:13] <ActionParsnip> tasslehoff: cool you cant upgrade to 64bit. it will need a clean install
[20:13] <edeca> 32bit with PAE supports more, but not in the same way as 64bit
[20:13] <ActionParsnip> spanglish_7776: without pae, yes
[20:13] <Trek> the wireless card is being assigned interface name eth0.  is there a way to force change the interface name that it is assigned?
[20:14] <Der> tasslehoff, just curious, what will be the main use of your OS, to you?
[20:14] <ActionParsnip> trek: yes there are guides. you use the mac address i believe to tell the system which name to give it
[20:14] <tasslehoff> ActionParsnip: yep
[20:14] <Trek> ActionParsnip: mind referring me to one of these guides?
[20:14] <erUSUL> Trek: for a wireless card it depends ainly on the driver ....
[20:15] <erUSUL> Trek: for a wireless card it depends mainly on the driver ....
[20:15] <zoran119> hello
[20:15] <msg|beep> hi
[20:15] <Trek> ActionParsnip / erUSUL: its a Broadcom card, proprietary Linux drivers for 9.04
[20:15] <tasslehoff> Der: websurfing, multimedia and a bit of coding
[20:15] <ActionParsnip> trek: i pasted one earlier. if all you use is lan/wifi then you can use wicd and simply tell it that eth0 is wifi
[20:15] <erUSUL> Trek: if it is wired nic it is in /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules
[20:15] <msg|beep> someone can answer a simple question ?
[20:15] <ActionParsnip> trek: or http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-networking-3/how-to-rename-ethernet-card-eth1-to-eth0-314641/
[20:15] <rambo298> any apparmor experts in here
[20:15] <cmp> hello, bazhang  . ?
[20:16] <Trek> ActionParsnip / erUSUL: i'll check on all that, i'll see what I can do
[20:16] <ActionParsnip> msg|beep: not if you dont ask it
[20:16] <msg|beep> ok so i do
[20:16] <ActionParsnip> trek: id use wicd, its de independant too :)
[20:16] <Der> tasslehoff, im sorry to disappoint you, but the 64, will let you down, not as an OS, as an OS, its fantastic [SPEED], but when it comes to specifically flash player, and quite a few applications, they crash :(
[20:16] <zoran119> i'm running ubuntu server 8.10 lts, and when i update it some kernel packages are being held back... i had a look around and the way to update these is the do a dist-upgrade... but will this update me to a new version or will i still have 8.10 lts?
[20:17] <edeca> zoran119: Still 8.10
[20:17] <ActionParsnip> der: the native 64bit flash works great here
[20:17] <msg|beep> i have a live CD and after loading i am at gpanel. done all harddrive settings and safed them but i font know how to going on to install ubuntu from cd
[20:17] <edeca> zoran119: It's basically a "safe upgrade" or a "full upgrade"
[20:17] <cmp> hi guys, i have problem with adobe flash player for about 3 days now and i tried many times to fix it - but i couldnt - can you help me ?
[20:17] <edeca> zoran119: And will generally require you to reboot
[20:17] <jef91> cmp what is the issue?
[20:17] <Trek> ActionParsnip: i'm using erUSUL's method, i'm running CLI right now as root while I mess with the OS files
[20:17] <Trek> ActionParsnip: i'm using erUSUL's method, i'm running CLI right now as root while I mess with the OS files correctly *
[20:18] <Der> ActionParsnip, i tested karmic 64, on 3 machines, they've been crashing through out, [clean install tho]
[20:18] <blakkheim> zoran119: dist-upgrade doesn't take you to the next version, despite what the  name would imply
[20:18] <Der> ActionParsnip, i mean as in adobe flash player
[20:18] <edeca> dist-upgrade is a stupid name.  I much prefer aptitude
[20:18] <jef91> Der - I'm typing from karmic 64bit right now
[20:18] <bastid_raZor> zoran119: you will be the same version of ubuntu just a newer kernel. and 8.10 is not LTS 8.04 is
[20:18] <ActionParsnip> cmp: can you give the output (in a pastebin) of; dpkg -l | grep flash; dpkg -l | grep gnash; dpkg -l | grep swf
[20:18] <cmp> jef91, every time i try to open youtube- it asks me for the adobe flash player plugin... although when i accept to install if from the site - it tells me ( adobe flash player is allready installed - i dont know what is wrong
[20:19] <Trek> erUSUL: its a wired NIC card (internal), so the hardware address shouldn't change.  i've got NAME fixed, but should I mess with KERNEL=="eth*"?
[20:19] <woodyjlw> anyone know how to get wrath of the lich king to install from dvd in wine?   or maybe a link to some forums that might help me
[20:19] <Der> jef91, yes but may i ask, how is your web surfing experience with flash media??
[20:19] <ActionParsnip> trek: wicd has a curses interface ;)
[20:19] <ActionParsnip> der: yeh same, works well
[20:19] <jef91> Der - I watch Hulu just fine along with youtube now and again, plus I use pandora radio alot
[20:19] <msg|beep> I am new to live cd's
[20:19] <Trek> ActionParsnip: meh, i don't like wicd... issues with WPA and WPA2 on my systems :P
[20:19] <jef91> cmp how did you install it?
[20:19] <brandonban6> OYE! Any ati users out there? i set up my settings in the catalyst control panel (admin) but it doesn't seem to write to xorg.conf, because when i reboot, the settings are reset? I just want to disable my laptop display and use an external monitor, thats it!
[20:19] <tasslehoff> Der: thanks for the warning. I'll do some research before I decide wehter to install
[20:19] <ActionParsnip> !appdb | woodyjlw
[20:20] <danopia_> jef91, use grooveshark :P lets you queue songs etc., imo better than pandora for active listening. the radio feature isn't very good thouhg, picks random songs
[20:20] <cmp> Actionparsnip, http://pastebin.com/m795f5ca8
[20:20] <Der> ActionParsnip, jef91, i guess you are luckier than i am :( , my machine is 64 bit capable, yet i had to roll back to 32, when problems happened
[20:21] <jef91> danopia_ I use grooveshark when I want particular songs ;) However most times I just like discovering new music and Pandora does ALOT better job of that than GS. Plus I have Pandora One with the desktop application, <3 Adobe Air
[20:21] <Der> !livecd | msg|beep
[20:21] <Trek> erUSUL: its a wired NIC card (internal), so the hardware address shouldn't change.  i've got NAME fixed, but should I mess with KERNEL=="eth*" in the file??
[20:21] <cmp> jef91, when i open the page it tells me on a tool bar - there is some missing plugins... and the clip is not showing , so i click on the bottom which says install the missing plugin
[20:22] <Trek> ActionParsnip: i'm also lazy and don't want to install anything right now
[20:22] <gio> ciao
[20:22] <ActionParsnip> cmp: ok uninstall ALL those. you will then install flashplugin-nonfree
[20:22] <gio> !list
[20:22] <msg|beep> ubottu: the harddrive has no OS on it it is clean. I want to install ubuntu from live cd without INET. Is it possible ?
[20:22] <k4rt33k> Any other irc networks for normal chatting?
[20:22] <ActionParsnip> cmp: you have more than one plugin and they fight and you get nothing
[20:22] <jef91> cmp - remove any traces of flash player you currently have on your system (if any) and then install it via synaptic
[20:22] <Trek> k4rt33k: nope, use #ubuntu-offtopic
[20:23] <orangefly> #openoffice
[20:23] <`mOOse`> k4rt33k, there are hundreds of irc networks
[20:23] <cmp> Actionparsnip, i even installed before with bazhang here flashplugin-nonfree and nothing changed
[20:23] <ActionParsnip> cmp: then only packge you want is flashplugin-nonfree not all those
[20:23] <k4rt33k> `mOOse`: Any idea where to find them?
[20:23] <ActionParsnip> cmp: yes because you have those others which are conflicting
[20:23] <cmp> Actionparsnip,  jef91 ,   ok how can i do remove it and then install it can you guide me please ?
[20:24] <sburwood> anyone seen 10.4?
[20:24] <ActionParsnip> cmp: use software center and the pastebin as a guide then install flashplugin-nonfree
[20:24] <msg|beep> is there any how to on the net how to install ubuntu from live-cd without inet?
[20:24] <matu_> hi all
[20:24] <ActionParsnip> !lucid | sburwood
[20:24] <jef91> cmp Look through your mozilla plugins
[20:24] <`mOOse`> k4rt33k, it's off-topic in here but depending on your irc client (the thing you're using to type here), there's usually a list of them in your setup somewhere - if you mean *channels* (which is the place where you are typing - the "room") then type /list usually
[20:25] <sburwood> sorry
[20:25] <cwillu_at_work> ugh, so I just unlocked my encrypted drive on bootup, and then when the usplash screen cleared, it had my password printed in plain text
[20:25] <cwillu_at_work> this, as they say, is a Bad Thing.
[20:25] <cmp> Actionparsnip, jef91  , ok i will do it now and come back to you when i finish it
[20:25] <kubanc> anybody knows why i have this problem for my wireless device  TKIP: RX tkey->key_idx=1 frame keyidx=2 priv=xxxx
[20:25] <ActionParsnip> (msg|beep): you dont need a web connection to install or use the live cd
[20:25] <juancarl1s> test
[20:25] <Trek> anyone familiar with messing with the naming algorithms for network interfaces?
[20:25] <msg|beep> ok but what i have to do after closeing gpanel ?
[20:25] <juancarl1s> how to rename command?
[20:26] <msg|beep> *closing
[20:26] <ActionParsnip> !test | juancarl1s
[20:26] <edeca> juancarl1s: What do you want to _do_
[20:26] <edeca> juancarl1s: Tell us the problem, not your solution
[20:26] <Der> msg|beep, are you on live cd now?
[20:26] <msg|beep> no not now
[20:26] <ActionParsnip> juancarl1s: create an alias in $HOME/.bashrc
[20:26] <juancarl1s> rename myself here
[20:26] <edeca> juancarl1s: /nick mynewname
[20:26] <cwillu_at_work> juancarl1s, /nick
[20:26] <Der> msg|beep, did you download and burn your cd?
[20:26] <msg|beep> i have to safe information in mind to use them tomorrow
[20:26] <msg|beep> i have a cd
[20:26] <ActionParsnip> juancarlsl1s: ok bashrc isnt for in irc
[20:27] <juancarlospaco> !foo
[20:27] <juancarlospaco> perfect
[20:27] <msg|beep> just on work
[20:27] <lifestream> Is there a GUI program to setup Wacom preferences? (it works, I just want to easily change how it works)
[20:27] <onaogh> how i can store a value say 123 in a variable x in bash ?
[20:27] <edeca> onaogh: VARIABLE="123"
[20:27] <Der> msg|beep, good, restart your computer boot the cd, and choose the 1st option
[20:27] <blakkheim> lifestream: xterm -e vi /your/config
[20:27] <imi> hi
[20:27] <ActionParsnip> onaogh: expot x=123
[20:27] <ActionParsnip> export
[20:27] <onaogh> :)
[20:27] <ActionParsnip> sorry typo
[20:27] <lifestream> blakkheim,  ....O_0......sorry.... ..  what..? xD
[20:27] <edeca> The export is necessary if you want it saved as part of your current environment.
[20:28] <onaogh> noth, just a temp var
[20:28] <Der> msg|beep, you will see ubuntu without touching your computer...
[20:28] <msg|beep> Der: I done this 1 time. i last in gpanel and i closed it. I have xserver running and i can exit gpanel information terminal and so
[20:28] <msg|beep> these are the icons i can click
[20:28] <msg|beep> but that is not ubuntu installed
[20:28] <cmp> Actionparsnip, jef91 , this is the out put while i was removing the adobe flash .... http://pastebin.com/m417b0da2      its telling me ( package operation failed
[20:29] <ActionParsnip> onaogh: you will reference it with $x
[20:29] <Der> msg|beep, on the desktop there must be an icon, install
[20:29] <msg|beep> when i exit, i get the hint to flip out cd and reboot
[20:29] <onaogh> yep
[20:29] <ActionParsnip> onaogh: e.g.   echo $x    to output it
[20:29] <msg|beep> but it doesnt boot bcause there is no install and no bootsector information about a system on this harddrivve
[20:29] <renegaid> I need a good distro that has a decent ui out of box. anyone tried linux mint?
[20:29] <msg|beep> no there is no instsall
[20:29] <onaogh> yep
[20:29] <erUSUL> Trek: no
[20:30] <erUSUL> Trek: just change the name
[20:30] <Der> msg|beep, boot the cd again, on the desktop there is a install icon, it will start a wizard that wil guide you through the installation process
[20:30] <ActionParsnip> renegaid: mint is offtopic here
[20:30] <msg|beep> is any of the boot options the one i install it ?
[20:30] <juancarlospaco> someone have a Guide/tuto/tips'N'Tricks/candy/Wiki for making a Ubuntu-Only WIFI?
[20:30] <msg|beep> rly ?
[20:30] <Trek> erUSUL: out of curiosity, what does KERNEL=="somethign" specify?
[20:30] <msg|beep> what if there is no install icon ?
[20:30] <msg|beep> how to go on ?
[20:30] <renegaid> I see. thought it was just ubuntu with a face lift
[20:30] <ActionParsnip> renegaid: good ui is an opinion so never concrete. you can install many different DE/WMs on ubuntu.
[20:31] <Der> msg|beep, check under System Menu -> adminitration, there must be there,,,
[20:31] <lifestream> Is there a GUI program to setup Wacom preferences? (it works, I just want to easily change how it works)
[20:31] <ActionParsnip> renegaid: it not a canonical release
[20:31] <msg|beep> i have no real desktop
[20:31] <erUSUL> Trek: the event that the kernel sents to udev. a rule eth* intercepta all eth1 eth0 eth2 etc and acts uppon them renaming if needed
[20:31] <juancarlospaco> need a WIFI for Ubuntu only, to use a apt-mirror
[20:31] <msg|beep> so no system menu
[20:31] <renegaid> too much trouble. ok then
[20:31] <Der> msg|beep, if all hope is lost with you, boot the cd again and now choose the 2nd boot option, which is install
[20:31] <debo> Could not download all repository indexes
[20:31] <Trek> ah, thanks for the info erUSUL... not going to mess with that :P
[20:31] <msg|beep> ok i will see if i have an install ican
[20:32] <ActionParsnip> renegaid: try a few DEs. see which you like
[20:32] <debo> Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/schmirrwurst/ppa/ubuntu/dists/8.04/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz  404 Not Found
[20:32] <trineox> brb
[20:32] <debo> Some index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old ones used instead.
[20:32] <msg|beep> ok thats be the point Der!
[20:32] <msg|beep> think this will be the right action for my situation
[20:32] <debo> what does this mean?
[20:32] <ActionParsnip> debo: maybe its down
[20:32] <renegaid> I have tried many many. I will try mint now
[20:32] <edeca> A 404 means the file does not exist.  The server must be up.
[20:32] <Timmarshall> hi dudes im reading linux for dummies 2nd edition (i got from the college library) should i read the 1st edition first?????
[20:32] <msg|beep> so thank you for your patient
[20:32] <ActionParsnip> debo: or the file moved or is being updated
[20:32] <msg|beep> and thank you for help
[20:33] <debo> i ve tried several times today
[20:33] <edeca> Timmarshall: No, the same way you wouldn't read any 1st edition if there is a 2nd
[20:33] <damjanzg> I got some txt with spaces in variable B and I tray to get rid of them with command S=`echo $B | sed 's/,//g'` but that just cant be done, what is the problem?
[20:33] <msg|beep> maybe we see us again
[20:33] <msg|beep> bb
[20:33] <edeca> debo: Are you sure that repository is still correct?
[20:33] <ActionParsnip> renegaid: mint is a distro, not a de
[20:33] <_lance_> hi.. i'm having a hard time rolling back some packages. apt-get -t hardy install perl-base only tells me that the latest version is already installed, for example.
[20:33] <Timmarshall> ok thanks
[20:33] <jef91> cmp are there any flash packages installed when you look in synaptic ?
[20:33] <_lance_> i manually installed with dpkg -i and there's dozens of deps that broke now.
[20:33] <tassleho1f> and my ram is back :)
[20:33] <sander_> hi all
[20:33] <renegaid> ont know was de is but ok
[20:33] <_lance_> any idea how to resolve those deps? hopefully more easily than dpkg -i for them all.
[20:33] <debo> how could i check if the repository is correct?
[20:34] <edeca> debo: http://ppa.launchpad.net/schmirrwurst/ppa/ubuntu/dists/jaunty/ seems to be valid
[20:34] <iceroot> damjanzg: maybe i am wrong but i would use s/\ //g
[20:34] <LOGAN> anyone in holland where I can get an original CD of ubuntu?
[20:34] <shubbar> Timmarshall, what does that book has?
[20:34] <sander_> ik kom uit NL :)
[20:34] <edeca> damjanzg: Well that would remove commas
[20:34] <_lance_> a few days ago i did an apt-get install -t lucid and that brought in way more deps than i thought, and broke a bunch of stuff.
[20:34] <Trek> erUSUL: if I changed the interface name in the file you specified, would that name be persistent?
[20:34] <Dj_FlyBy> anyone using UNR9.04 on an Acer Aspire ONE that is having issues with the battery (Says it has 2.5 hours left after full charge but only lasting like 40minutes tops)?
[20:34] <Cr33pz0r> Each time i start ubuntu it messes up my screen!
[20:34] <edeca> damjanzg: If you want to remove spaces, use \s+ or ( )+
[20:34] <onaogh> can anyone else find "_webmitm ()" in the output when executing the command "set" without args
[20:34] <erUSUL> Trek: yes
[20:35] <edeca> onaogh: No
[20:35] <cmp> jef91 , now i went throught Synaptic to remove any thing related to flash plugins and even to remove mozilla coz its involved in each error i receive about the flash - but even this trial it not finishing as it should finish
[20:35] <sander_> hey LOGAN, you can oder 1 for free online....i did in from the NL
[20:35] <dfgh> I have an ati radeon hd 5470 graphics card, but the 5000 series is apparently not supported yet. is there another driver I can use? at least i'd like to be able to change resolution
[20:35] <jef91> did you manually remove the libflashplayer.so cmp?
[20:35] <bwallen> I have a second sata hdd in my computer. Every few seconds it sounds like ubuntu is power it down and turning it back on. Why is this?
[20:35] <LOGAN> sander_: I've done that for the past years but I reached my quota :)
[20:35] <erUSUL> dfgh: i guess that the driver in ati's site would work
[20:35] <erUSUL> !envyng | dfgh
[20:36] <cmp> no jef91 .
[20:36] <blakkheim> LOGAN: same here, guess you just need to dl it
[20:36] <cmp> i dont know even where is it located jef91.
[20:36] <LOGAN> blakkheim: maybe I end up asking a windows friend to order one for me :)
[20:37] <juancarlospaco> someone have a Guide/tuto/tips'N'Tricks/candy/Wiki for making a Ubuntu-Only WIFI? (to use apt-mirror)
[20:37] <ikonia> cmp: read the help page I've told you to read for the last 2 days so you know how to navigate around the file system and we can get this resolved
[20:37] <onaogh> how to write output of a command to a file ?
[20:37] <edeca> onaogh: command > file
[20:37] <ikonia> juancarlospaco: ubuntu only wifi ?
[20:37] <edeca> onaogh: That will redirect STDOUT, but not STDERR
[20:37] <Cr33pz0r> Why is my screen all messed up when I start live cd?
[20:37] <iceroot> onaogh: command > file
[20:37] <juancarlospaco> ikonia: yes
[20:37] <ikonia> juancarlospaco: what do you mean ?
[20:37] <edeca> onaogh: Google for 'bash redirection' for more information
[20:37] <iceroot> onaogh: or >> to append it
[20:37] <ikonia> Cr33pz0r: what video card do you have and what version of ubuntu
[20:37] <jef91> cmp check /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/
[20:37] <juancarlospaco> ikonia: a wifi that can only connect using ubuntu, restricted by OS
[20:38] <ikonia> Cr33pz0r: there is a bug with some ati cards
[20:38] <sander_> any1 succesfully changed the "default"  adito theme ? :)
[20:38] <shubbar> Cr33pz0r, what do you mean by "messed up"?
[20:38] <edeca> juancarlospaco: There is no easy way to do that
[20:38] <Cr33pz0r> how do i fix/workaround it
[20:38] <cmp> i would be so much appreciative if you dont try to help me Ikonia... really i dont want it from your side
[20:38] <Spanglish_7776> onaogh comand >>file
[20:38] <socram> i've to kill pulseaudio whenever an app wants to use it, ie: fresh start: using vlc (ok sound), close vlc, open rythmbox (no sound) unless i kill pulseaudio. wtf?
[20:38] <ikonia> juancarlospaco: you can't do it like that, you'd have to limit by something such as mac address, or limit it at the dhcp server to stop non-ubuntu machines getting an IP
[20:38] <dfgh> erUSUL: OK, thanks. i'll look into envyng. but first, which driver in atis site? im following the download wizard on amd.com which is a dead end because the 5000 series isn't supported.
[20:38] <Spanglish_7776> beat me to it
[20:38] <juancarlospaco> edeca: doesnt matter
[20:38] <Spanglish_7776> 1 > sorry
[20:38] <da> I'm using Ubuntu8.04 LTS for OS, but it wont play movies, need help
[20:38] <ikonia> cmp: you're going to have to learn the basics sooner or later, you can't keep asking in the channel for people to do it for you
[20:38] <edeca> juancarlospaco: 802.1d might help ,but not much
[20:39] <Cr33pz0r> ikonia: how do i fix/workaround it
[20:39] <blakkheim> da: aptitude install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[20:39] <edeca> juancarlospaco: And 802.1d isn't easy to setup
[20:39] <ikonia> !video | da
[20:39] <erUSUL> dfgh: it was a guess on my part. i thought that last catalys would support latest cards ...
[20:39] <ikonia> Cr33pz0r: is it an ati card ?
[20:39] <Cr33pz0r> yes
[20:39] <juancarlospaco> edeca: im CCNA, i think i can do it
[20:39] <juancarlospaco> :)
[20:39] <dfgh> erUSUL: alright, thanks
[20:39] <juancarlospaco> lol
[20:39] <da> okay, thank you
[20:39] <edeca> juancarlospaco: If you're a CCNA, you should know how to use google.
[20:39] <ikonia> Cr33pz0r: frustrating, there isn't really a fix apart from use "fail safe" video mode when you boot
[20:39] <juancarlospaco> edeca: yes
[20:39] <blakkheim> edeca: nice
[20:39] <ikonia> Cr33pz0r: I know that's not the solution you're looking for, but if you install ubuntu it should be fixable, just not on the livecd
[20:40] <Cr33pz0r> well can't get it installed without it lol
[20:40] <ikonia> Cr33pz0r: ahh, that we can fix, use the alternative install CD
[20:40] <cmp> iam learing the way how i learn - and thanks for your advise and i will be so much appreciative again if you stop communicating with me and find some one else to enjoy the pressing down... now there is person who is teaching me the way which fits me - i dont learn by books. i learn by doing
[20:40] <ikonia> Cr33pz0r: that's a curses based intaller so should work fine
[20:40] <juancarlospaco> edeca: but is not suggested to say "go and search google" on support chat, lol, i mean i looking for experiences by other users
[20:40] <edeca> juancarlospaco: Essentially, there is no portion in a wireless handshake that tells the router/base station what OS it is.  The only potential way is something higher level like 802.1d, but even then it's not going to be possible to restrict it to a specific OS
[20:40] <ikonia> cmp: the channel can't keep telling you what to do
[20:40] <edeca> juancarlospaco: Much less one distribution of an OS (e.g. Ubuntu/Debian/whatever)
[20:41] <ikonia> cmp: at some point you can use the help.ubuntu.com page to "do"
[20:41] <edeca> juancarlospaco: Ubuntu doesn't have different networking or drivers to Debian/Gentoo/Slackware/whatever, so there is no way to differentiate
[20:41] <ikonia> cmp: you don't have to just read it, you can "do it" too
[20:41] <juancarlospaco> edeca: maybe no distro but kernel linux
[20:41] <ikonia> juancarlospaco: you can't do it like that
[20:41] <ikonia> juancarlospaco: the best option would be to set the dhcp server to identify the client and not offer ip's to non-identified clients
[20:41] <juancarlospaco> edeca: plan: apt-mirror on the ubuntu wifi, Wsus on the windows wifi
[20:41] <edeca> juancarlospaco: 802.1d is as close as you will get to ethernet/wireless security.  And it's a pain.
[20:42] <socram> i've to kill pulseaudio whenever an app wants to use it, ie: fresh start: using vlc (ok sound), close vlc, open rythmbox (no sound) unless i kill pulseaudio. wtf?
[20:42] <ikonia> juancarlospaco: they will bond with the wireless access point, but not gain access to the network
[20:42] <Cr33pz0r> ikonia: If i install with the alternate cd, can i install it on external without modifying my PC's HDD's?
[20:42] <ikonia> Cr33pz0r: sure
[20:42] <Dj_FlyBy> anyone using UNR9.04 on an Acer Aspire ONE that is having issues with the battery (Says it has 2.5 hours left after full charge but only lasting like 40minutes tops)?
[20:42] <edeca> juancarlospaco: That's not an issue, surely?  You push DNS records to windows hosts and group policy for the wsus (off-topic) and set your linux hosts to a specific mirror
[20:42] <andruk> the recent kernel updates seem to have made my laptop unable to suspend correctly.  it worked before - how do i get suspend working correctly again?
[20:42] <cmp> ikonia, if the channel complains to you - then you have right to talk about them ... now please leave me to learn by my way
[20:42] <Diverdude> is there a tool integrated in ubuntu to calculate and compare checksums for files?
[20:42] <edeca> juancarlospaco: What I do on my network is "spoof" gb.archive.ubuntu.com to internal-mirror.lan
[20:42] <juancarlospaco> ikonia: i have experience on eth bond
[20:43] <server_side> does ubuntu support logitech webcams?
[20:43] <edeca> juancarlospaco: That way, when a laptop is inside the network it pulls from the local mirror.  When it is outside, it gets updates as normal
[20:43] <Cr33pz0r> ikonia: So if i install and choose extranl hdd, my bootfile won't be affcted of the internal hd?
[20:43] <juancarlospaco> yes i know, but i want 2 different wifi
[20:43] <edeca> server_side: Some, yes
[20:43] <ikonia> juancarlospaco: I never said anything about eth bond ??
[20:43] <server_side> edeca, any specific models, or will any be ok?
[20:43] <juancarlospaco> ikonia: i know
[20:43] <ikonia> Cr33pz0r: not if you install the boot loader on the external hard drive
[20:43] <ikonia> juancarlospaco: so why make a pointless comment /
[20:43] <edeca> server_side: Google it :)
[20:43] <Cr33pz0r> ikonia: How would I do that?
[20:43] <server_side> edeca, have done no joy
[20:43] <ikonia> juancarlospaco: either way, this isn't anything to do with ubuntu any more
[20:44] <juancarlospaco> but you cant run wsus-like service on linux withtout virtual
[20:44] <ikonia> Cr33pz0r: when you're installing it will ask you where you want to install the boot loader
[20:44] <juancarlospaco> not nicely
[20:44] <ikonia> juancarlospaco: of course you can
[20:44] <ikonia> juancarlospaco: of course you can
[20:44] <juancarlospaco> wsus runs on ubuntu?
[20:44] <edeca> WSUS is possible with samba.  But icky.
[20:44] <ikonia> juancarlospaco: no,
[20:44] <juancarlospaco> apt-get install wsus  xD
[20:44] <edeca> And that's not an ubuntu issue.
[20:44] <Cr33pz0r> ikonia: How can i found out what to enter as HD?
[20:45] <ikonia> Cr33pz0r: during the installer it will identify your hard disks, make a note of them
[20:45] <juancarlospaco> thats right
[20:45] <juancarlospaco> anyways need 2 different wifi
[20:45] <Trek> thanks for the help erUSUL
[20:45] <juancarlospaco> would search the Wiki for that
[20:45] <erUSUL> Trek: no problem
[20:46] <juancarlospaco> Thanks
[20:46] <edeca> Probably not an ubuntu issue.  Go check 802.1x and see if that helps
[20:46] <cmp> jef91, i have got the folder which you told me about
[20:46] <cmp> and its contains 3 files jef91.
[20:46] <jef91> is there a flashplayer file there?
[20:46] <jef91> looking for libflashplayer.so
[20:46] <juancarlospaco> thank edeca, ikonia
[20:46] <Trek> erUSUL, one last question, is there a way to specify in iptables to block ICMP responses
[20:46] <jef91> cmp what are the three files?
[20:46] <chai_> a word of wisdom. do NOT "sudo apt-get remove --purge libasound2"
[20:47] <chai_> my ubuntu is hurting
[20:47] <Trek> lol chai_, did you do that?
[20:47] <cmp> can i send you the picture jef91?
[20:47] <chai_> yes lol
[20:47] <ikonia> cmp: https://help.ubuntu.com - learn how to look for files on the file system, that way you can let others help you rather than keep saying "how"
[20:47] <jef91> cmp tinypic.com
[20:47] <juancarlospaco> im using an old notebook with Quagga for router, dont want Samba or something like that
[20:47] <capron> I have problems with suspend,  Do it work when full crypt on hard disk is in use ?   Is it suppos to work on using ubutnu live ?
[20:47] <erUSUL> Trek: i'm sure there is; but i do not what it is :)
[20:47] <Trek> sudo apt-get remove --purge libasound2
[20:47] <Trek> !danger
[20:47] <ikonia> cmp: if you learn how to use the file browsers, you can let jef91 help you better
[20:47] <ikonia> Trek: he's telling us NOT to use that command
[20:47] <Trek> i know
[20:47] <Trek> :P
[20:47] <chai_> haha
[20:47] <chai_> nice
[20:47] <ikonia> Trek: so why hit it with Danger, it's not a dangeours command
[20:47] <`mOOse`> anybody set up tor with vidalia and prixoxy?
[20:48] <erUSUL> Trek: i use firewall apps like ufw firehol etc so i do not have to know the ugly details ....
[20:48] <`mOOse`> is the vidalia in synaptic give you all of that?
[20:48] <shushek> hello, last evening i tried Lucid 10.04 but i wasnt able to login after the installation... any advice why?
[20:48] <Trek> got it, ikonia
[20:48] <Trek> erUSUL, okay, thanks
[20:48] <edeca> shushek: #ubuntu+1
[20:48] <erUSUL> !lucid | shushek
[20:48] <chai_> ikonia, a ton of apps are removed if you get rid of it.. eclipse, java, chrome, amarok...
[20:48] <tassleho1f> I use gnome, but some kde-apps I just can't live without. Is there a way to make them look more gnome-ish?
[20:48] <Bookman> Does anyone have personal experience with an OKI B410D laser printer with Ubuntu?  Does it work properly without mucking about?
[20:48] <ikonia> chai_: I know
[20:49] <edeca> Bookman: Check linuxprinting.org
[20:49] <Bookman> edeca, Personal experience
[20:49] <edeca> Bookman: If that claims support, you should be fine
[20:49] <Bookman> edeca, I tried that before.
[20:49] <edeca> Bookman: Crikey chap, there are about a bajillion printers in the world and about 10 active users right now ;)
[20:50]  * erUSUL wonders what a bajillion is more or less than a googlo ?
[20:50] <chai_> i did so because i keep getting "libasound.so.2 no such file". i purged and reinstalled alsa-base alsa-utils and linux-sound-base. now very little applicatiosn work
[20:50] <edeca> erUSUL: Slightly over, I think
[20:50] <cmp> jef91, http://imagebin.ca/view/yOY-UKn.html     this is what i have
[20:52] <jef91> cmp run the following in terminal:    sudo rm /usr/lib/mozilla/plugin/flashplugin-alternative.so && sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[20:54] <chronos-dmt> hi guys, i'm having problem with ubuntu 9.04
[20:54] <Dj_FlyBy> anyone using UNR9.04 on an Acer Aspire ONE that is having issues with the battery (Says it has 2.5 hours left after full charge but only lasting like 40minutes tops)?
[20:54] <chai_> few applications work now. can someone help explain how this can happen? http://pastebin.com/m7e81b96f
[20:54] <jef91> chronos-dmt just state the issue, if someone can help they will
[20:54] <cmp> this is the out put jef91 , http://pastebin.com/m17056058
[20:54] <chronos-dmt> jef91, : ok
[20:55] <KaiForce> I have a dual boot laptop with XP / Ubuntu 8.something.  I'd like to install 9.10 x64 on the partitions with Ubuntu on it, but I don't want to lose my boot manager (Truecrypt for encrypted Win system).  How to proceed?
[20:55] <erUSUL> chai_: run "sudo updatedb"
[20:55] <jef91> cmp run the following in terminal:    sudo rm /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/flashplugin-alternative.so && sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[20:55] <Jordan_U> chai_, locate keeps a cache, the files probably no longer exist
[20:55] <andruk> the recent kernel updates seem to have made my laptop unable to suspend correctly.  it worked before - how do i get suspend working correctly again?
[20:56] <jef91> andruk - boot into the older kernel?
[20:56] <chronos-dmt> my problem is: i'm using just terminal, so with minutes of inactivity my screen switch off, and i lost keyboard events. but every programs continues running.
[20:56] <chai_> erUSUL, Jordan_U, thanks, yea its not there. gonna compile alsa-lib and see if problems go away
[20:56] <erUSUL> chai_: really why not just install "ubuntu-desktop"  again ?
[20:57] <linusoleander> What does >& /dev/null & disown do ?
[20:57] <cmp> jef91, here is the output, http://pastebin.com/m7ea28784
[20:57] <anarkissed> im having issues with a realtek 8191se wireless adapter. It show up as "Unclaimed" in lshw -c Network....and dosent show up at all in Applications ->System Tools -> Device manager im on 9.10
[20:57] <chai_> erUSUL, how much of my configuration/files will be removed if i do so?
[20:57] <erUSUL> linusoleander: disown deatach the process from the shell so when you exit the shell the process continue running
[20:57] <luisito> holss
[20:57] <erUSUL> linusoleander: is like nohup
[20:57] <luisito> hola
[20:58] <jef91> cmp do you have synaptic open?
[20:58] <erUSUL> !es | luisito
[20:58] <luisito> hello
[20:58] <cmp> yes - jef91 .
[20:58] <erUSUL> linusoleander: &> redirects bot stdin and stdout to /dev/null
[20:58] <linusoleander> erUSUL: nohup look nice
[20:58] <linusoleander> Thanks
[20:58] <cmp> i closed it now . should i do the order again . jef91
[20:58] <luisito> hello?
[20:58] <erUSUL> !hi | luisito
[20:58] <jef91> cmp just the second part
[20:59] <Trek> for openssh-server, how do I restart the server?
[20:59] <edeca> Trek: /etc/init.d/sshd restart
[20:59] <luisito> hello what your name
[20:59] <edeca> Trek: Oops, ssh restart
[20:59] <edeca> !hello | luisito
[20:59] <blakkheim> edeca: it's just ssh, not sshd for me (usually it's sshd but not on ubuntu)
[20:59] <edeca> blakkheim: Yes, my mistake :)
[20:59] <Jordan_U> chai_, No configuration files should be lost if you re-install a package. Is there a reason you suspect they would be?
[20:59] <luisito> :D
[20:59] <erUSUL> luisito: this is a support channel to chat go to #ubuntu-offtopic
[21:00] <Trek> edeca: thanks
[21:00] <luisito> is in espanis
[21:00] <erUSUL> luisito: for spanish chat go to #ubuntu-es-offtopic
[21:00] <anarkissed> Anyone have experience w/wireless networking specifiacally realtek in 9.10
[21:00] <chai_> Jordan_U, ok thanks. no reason in specific, just wanted to make sure
[21:01] <luisito> hello!!
[21:01] <Jordan_U> chai_, np
[21:01] <cmp> jef91, here is what i got http://pastebin.com/m5848c35
[21:02] <mcurran> Anyone know if a DMZ host would share the public ip-address, or is it assigned a separate one?
[21:03] <sebastian> hello
[21:03] <edeca> mcurran: It depends how you do it.  Generally a separate IP
[21:03] <Trek> edeca, thanks
[21:03] <sebastian> what is newest kernel ?
[21:03] <edeca> mcurran: If you only have one IP and a clever router/gateway, you can map the ports required to the internal DMZ IP
[21:04] <Cr33pz0r> Swap should that be logical or primary?
[21:04] <ikonia> Cr33pz0r: doesn't matter
[21:04] <erUSUL> Cr33pz0r: does not matter
[21:04] <blakkheim> sebastian: www.kernel.org
[21:04] <edeca> Cr33pz0r: No matter.  But really, swap? :)
[21:04] <chai_> ok well the reason i got into all this libasound trouble (now fixed) is because i upgraded my kernel and the sound stopped working. In gnome-volume-control I have a "dummy output" and no hardware devices
[21:04]  * edeca doesn't often build boxes with swap any more
[21:04] <sebastian> should I download newest or older will be better ?
[21:04] <ikonia> sebastian: newest/oldest what ?
[21:04] <Trek> !search dhcp
[21:04] <jef91> cmp - let me just make this easy, save this to a .sh file and run it: http://pastebin.com/m336a772c
[21:04] <blakkheim> sebastian: i prefer newest
[21:05] <Trek> what are the dhcp#-server packages for?
[21:05] <blakkheim> sebastian: but i run an older kernel on my server
[21:05] <sebastian> kernel
[21:05] <ikonia> Trek: dhcp servers
[21:05] <edeca> Trek: There are client and server packages
[21:05] <da> ubottu what happens if I don't use free formats?
[21:05] <erUSUL> sebastian: use the one that comes with the version of ubuntu you are running
[21:05] <sebastian> ok
[21:05] <mcurran> So it doesn't have to be static, it can be a dhcp ip?  Well I'm trying to figure out what the ip would be to connect remotely, so I would need to know if the public-ip redirects to the DMZ once it's setup
[21:05] <erUSUL> sebastian: just make sure you have linux-image installed
[21:05] <Trek> ikonia / edeca: if something recommends to install dhcp3-server, should I do it, or just leave it be?
[21:05] <luisito> hello
[21:05] <edeca> mcurran: Simply give the DMZ host a separate IP
[21:05] <edeca> Trek: What are you trying to do?
[21:06] <edeca> mcurran: Then map the ports across
[21:06] <Trek> ikonia / edeca: its not a prereq, was just wondering
[21:06] <ikonia> Trek: depends if you want a dhcp server on your machine
[21:06] <edeca> Trek: Eh, if it's not needed, don't install it :)
[21:06] <luisito> joe to el rato
[21:06] <sebastian> how to check my kernel version i terminal ?
[21:06] <da> ubottu: what if I don't use free formats?
[21:06] <ikonia> sebastian: uname -a
[21:06] <chai_> sebastian uname -r
[21:06] <chai_> :P either way
[21:06] <sebastian> :)
[21:06] <ikonia> luisito: english only please
[21:06] <mcurran> Okay, so I would still connect to the router and then communicate through port forwarding
[21:06] <luisito> mi name is luis you¿?
[21:06] <Trek> i hear you there, edeca.  ikonia, if I don't need a DHCP server for my system, I don't need to install it, correct?
[21:06] <xangua> !es | luisito
[21:06] <ikonia> luisito: ikonia is my nick name, and you're in a channel to support ubuntu
[21:07] <luisito> si¿?