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[15:05] <foka> Hi! I'm looking at https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/hugo/+publishinghistory, and am wondering why hugo is no longer automatically synchronized from Debian.
[15:06] <foka> Is it because any packages with Ubuntu-specific patches (0.102.3-1ubuntu1, etc.) are no longer automatically sync'ed?  Many thanks for any explanation!  :-)
[15:08] <RikMills> foka: yes
[15:08] <foka> RikMills: Ah, that makes sense.  Thank you for your clarification!
[15:09] <RikMills> https://merges.ubuntu.com/universe.html?query=hugo&showProposed=true&showMergeNeeded=true
[15:09] <RikMills> someone needs do a 'merge' withy the ubuntu changes, or decised that they are no longer neded to have it updated
[15:10]  * RikMills looks at that terrible typing ^
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[15:27] <foka> RikMills: That's very informative!  Thank you so much!
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[20:23] <RikMills> Eickmeyer: FYI https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/plasma-discover/5.26.5-0ubuntu2
[20:25] <Eickmeyer> RikMills: Ack, need more info re: kde-config-updates. What does it do?
[20:27] <tsimonq2> apt show kde-config-updates ;)
[20:27] <Eickmeyer> tsimonq2: Obviously, but that's still not clear.
[20:28] <Eickmeyer> Something for unattended-upgrades or something?
[20:28] <RikMills[m]> and I posted to the wrong room again. sigh
[20:29] <RikMills> Eickmeyer: yes, it allows easy turning on/of of those
[20:30] <Eickmeyer> Ok, via the system settings I assume at this point.
[20:31]  * RikMills[m] uploaded an image: (188KiB) < https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/v3/download/kde.org/555efe25d0574780a96fb6b18f730b932ff29d9d/image.png >
[20:31] <Eickmeyer> That's what I thought.
[20:31] <Eickmeyer> Ok, I get it. Thanks!
[20:32] <Eickmeyer> I'll fix the seed soon, but it's got a bigger fish to fry and that's a Main Inclusion issue with Pipewire atm.
[20:32] <RikMills> yeah, it is minor but needed a FYI
[20:33] <RikMills> but meant to do it in your dev room not here
[20:33] <RikMills> whoops
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[01:19] <ahoneybun> can we get a new introduction to scopes since the last one came out 1year ago and a lot has changed
[01:22] <popey> ahoneybun, file a bug against the developer site
[01:22] <popey> most people aren't online right now
[01:27] <ahoneybun> I was talking about the video from Ubuntu OnAir
[01:31] <mcphail> On the subject of video, are the talks from Ubucon going to be posted online? The titles looked interesting
[01:34] <popey> some will/have
[01:34] <popey> I had lunch with the guy who did the videoing and he is going to work it when he gets home
[01:34] <popey> will need a lot of work
[01:34] <popey> ahoneybun, yeah, i think my comment still applies
[01:35] <mcphail> There was some official-looking Scale thing on youtube, but the sound quality was so bad it was inaudible
[01:35] <popey> (because mentioning it here when nobody is about is shouting into the wind)
[01:35] <popey> yeah, those were made by the on site scale people, these are separate
[01:35] <popey> ahoneybun, https://bugs.launchpad.net/developer-ubuntu-com/
[01:38] <popey> o/ all
[06:01] <Emturk> hello
[09:37] <JamesTait> Good morning all!  Happy Tuesday, and happy Australia Day! 😃
[12:01] <DanChapman> davidcalle hey! is there any examples somewhere of handling preview widget activations in a go scope? My searching so far has been fruitless
[12:01] <davidcalle> Hey DanChapman, there should be an example on lp, hang on :)
[12:06] <davidcalle> DanChapman: eg, opening an app?
[12:07] <DanChapman> davidcalle, yeah that and also using the comment-input widget
[12:08] <davidcalle> DanChapman: the uappexplorer scope is doing two interesting things in its previews: it can open an app and also go to another scope https://github.com/bhdouglass/uappexplorer-scope/blob/master/src/uappexplorer-scope.go#L174
[12:09]  * DanChapman looks
[12:16] <DanChapman> cool thanks, so that solves working with uri's.
[12:19] <davidcalle> DanChapman: and for receiving activations data, see the twitter scope shipped by default http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~twitter-scope-team/twitter-scope/trunk/view/head:/src/twitter.go#L1849
[12:21] <DanChapman> davidcalle, aha! that's perfect. Thanks!
[12:22] <davidcalle> DanChapman: yw!


[21:03] <scootergrisen_> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/Translations says "Lubuntu's slideshow (presentation during the installation) is translated on Launchpad." but https://translations.launchpad.net/ubiquity-slideshow-ubuntu/trunk is have translation it seems
[21:03] <scootergrisen_> So where are the translations?
[21:04] <scootergrisen_> Maybe https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu/zesty/+source/ubiquity-slideshow-ubuntu/+pots/ubiquity-slideshow-ubuntu/da/+translate ?
[21:07] <krytarik> scootergrisen_: Well yes, except for the "lubuntu" part: https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu/zesty/+source/ubiquity-slideshow-ubuntu/+pots/ubiquity-slideshow-lubuntu/da/+translate
[21:10] <scootergrisen_> Ok can someone update the instructions?
[21:10] <scootergrisen_> So https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/Translations is up to date
[21:18] <krytarik> Given the release-specificity, one could link to anything further down than this anyway though: https://translations.launchpad.net/ubiquity-slideshow-ubuntu - and that you reach by just clicking on "Translations" at the top of the page that's linked currently.
[21:19] <krytarik> Erm, couldn't.
[21:23] <krytarik> Oh nvm, the page currently linked is "Translations" too, but an empty one because "trunk" doesn't have any - so it could indeed be updated to that at least.


[02:34] <Arodnap> ohaio
[02:34] <Arodnap> hello
[02:36] <Arodnap> tem alguem ai?
[02:36] <Arodnap> hello
[02:37] <Emmanuel_Chanel> hi
[02:37] <Arodnap> are you from?
[02:37] <Emmanuel_Chanel> From Japan. I'm Japanese.
[02:38] <Arodnap> from brazil . I am brasileiro


[04:48] <ztonzy> apokryphos, trying Kubuntu again...as always Konqueor fails on me...
[04:48] <ztonzy> it sucks
[04:48] <apokryphos> ztonzy: still problems on Breezy stable? :(
[04:49] <ztonzy> apokryphos, is it ?
[04:49] <apokryphos> ztonzy: Breezy has been stable as of Oct. 13, yup
[04:49] <ztonzy> apokryphos, have used Ubuntu with no big problem...but Kubuntu and Konqueror always seem to fail
[04:50] <apokryphos> ztonzy: it might be worth trying out the kde 3.5 beta2 packages, as well, if you're still having problems with Breezy (stable version)
[04:50] <ztonzy> apokryphos, still ? installed KDE during weekend and this is first time Konqueor crashed , but yes...I am not impressed :-\
[04:51] <Adkron> Kejk_PL: still a no go.
[04:52] <apokryphos> ztonzy: sad to hear. Try out the kde 3.5 packages out
[04:52] <ztonzy> apokryphos, how to do that ? :)
[04:52] <apokryphos> ztonzy: http://www.kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-35beta2.php
[04:52] <Kejk_PL> Adkron: if it ping localhost (and <IP_ADDRESS>), it should work. I have no idea why it isn't...
[04:53] <Adkron> Kejk_PL: I can ping loaclhost.  I've been all over the forums and google.  Can't find an answer any where.  I have heard of a few other people having the same problem
[04:53] <Adkron> Kejk_PL: I had it on FreeBSD before and I just enabled DHCP and it worked
[04:54] <ztonzy> hmmm
[04:54] <ztonzy> apokryphos, first add the key and then apt-get 3.5 beta 2 ?
[04:54] <ztonzy> strange...
[04:55] <apokryphos> ztonzy: first make sure that you have kubuntu-desktop installed
[04:55] <ztonzy> apokryphos, I have
[04:55] <apokryphos> ztonzy: then get the key, change your sources.list, and finally sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[04:55] <nalioth> ztonzy: it's as easy as falling off a log
[04:56] <ztonzy> apokryphos, hmm need to update sourcelist before adding key ??
[04:56] <apokryphos> ztonzy: no
[04:56] <ztonzy> nalioth, no...it doesnt look that easy to me
[04:56] <apokryphos> ztonzy: which part?
[04:56] <ztonzy> "gpg: can't open `kubuntu-packages-jriddell-key.gpg': file or directory does not exist"
[04:57] <Riddell> ztonzy: download the file
[04:57] <nalioth> ztonzy: the instructions are very good on the page
[04:57] <ztonzy> :P
[04:57] <ztonzy> sorry...
[04:57] <apokryphos> ztonzy: wget http://www.kubuntu.org/announcements/kubuntu-packages-jriddell-key.gpg && sudo apt-key add kubuntu-packages-jriddell-key.gpg
[04:57] <nalioth> ztonzy: read the isntructions on adding his key
[04:59] <ztonzy> thanks all!
[04:59] <ztonzy> :) apt-get now
[04:59] <apokryphos> cool
[04:59] <ztonzy> hmm slow server
[05:00] <apokryphos> several mirrors there; but the default kubuntu.org one was pacey for me when I used it
[05:00] <ztonzy> yay...faster now
[05:01] <ztonzy> sorry for the moaning :)
[05:01] <Adkron> Oh well I guess I'll just have to install gentoo
[05:01] <apokryphos> Riddell: has it been decided yet whether 3.5 official will be in backports?
[05:02] <Riddell> apokryphos: I'll make packages for breezy
[05:02] <apokryphos> Riddell: yup; I just mean... will they go into Ubuntu backports repo?
[05:02] <nalioth> Riddell: if i'm gonna build ppc pkgs for hoary, which version should i do ?
[05:05] <Riddell> apokryphos: dunno, I'll need to discuss that with mez etc
[05:08] <ztonzy> apokryphos, then I need reboot or relogin ?
[05:08] <apokryphos> ztonzy: just a relogin
[05:08] <ztonzy> apokryphos, thanks
[05:09] <robin_> any nzbget users here?
[05:10] <nalioth> robin_: i use knzb, fwiw
[05:10] <robin_> nalioth: does it work with nzbget server ?
[05:11] <nalioth> i have no idea what nzbget server is
[05:11] <regeya> yeah, what's nzbget
[05:11] <robin_> nalioth: http://www.sf.net/projects/nzbget
[05:11] <Mars_^> Someone had problem with compiling ksmoothdock?
[05:12] <robin_> i'm the maintainer of a GUI Client for the server for win32/linux (http://www.sf.net/project/fastnzb)
[05:12] <nalioth> robin_: you're a real live dev?
[05:13] <robin_> nalioth: when I got time
[05:13] <nalioth> i considered nzbget, but couldnt figure it out
[05:13] <robin_> nalioth: it is a little project.
[05:13] <nalioth> so i settled on knzb (cause the kde nzb thing is atrocious)
[05:15] <robin_> nalioth: well nzbget is nice, if you have a server for downloading stuff
[05:15] <nalioth> robin_: do you mean a news server?
[05:15] <robin_> nalioth: no
[05:16] <robin_> nalioth: I got an server running nzbget, which connects with a news server
[05:16] <nalioth> robin_: that sounds complicated
[05:16] <robin_> nalioth: with my main PC or laptop I can send nzb files to my server, and the server starts downloading for the newsgroup servers of my ISP
[05:16] <Mars_^> What is the best macOS similar docker
[05:16] <Mars_^> ?
[05:17] <nalioth> robin_: is that how nzbget works ?, or the way YOU work it?
[05:17] <XtremXpert> Anybody using DSL BONDING on ubuntu
[05:17] <robin_> nalioth: most users use it that way
[05:17] <XtremXpert> ??
[05:17] <nalioth> Mars_^: either gdesklets, adesklets or superkarambe
[05:17] <apokryphos> Mars^: kxdocker, probably
[05:17] <robin_> nalioth: it is not complicate
[05:17] <robin_> d
[05:17] <nalioth> robin_: i'll have to get with you later for more discussion
[05:17] <robin_> nalioth: you don't have to leave your desktop PC on..
[05:17] <nalioth> it's past my bedtime
[05:17] <robin_> nalioth: cya
[05:18] <apokryphos> 'night nalioth
[05:18] <nalioth_zZz> y'all be safe
[05:21] <Mars^> what is the best MacOs similar docker?
[05:21] <apokryphos> Mars^: look up -- people answered
[05:22] <Niomi> i find gdesklets to be pretty buggy, so i wouldn't recomend that one. it's not for KDE anyway, i don't think.
[05:26] <Mars^> apokryphos, problem is that it disconnected me before i could read it :/
[05:26] <apokryphos> [16:17:17]  <nalioth> Mars_^: either gdesklets, adesklets or superkarambe
[05:26] <apokryphos> [16:17:20]  <apokryphos> Mars^: kxdocker, probably
[05:32] <robin_> I like kaffeine, it always crash, you can count on it :/
[05:34] <kkathman> robin_: what engine are you using?
[05:34] <laszlok> kaffeine only ever crashes when I close it, but I wanted it to go away anyway
[05:35] <robin_> kkathman: xine
[05:36] <kkathman> robin_: ahh ok...cuz, like laszlok, it only "crashes" when it closes occasionally
[05:36] <robin_> kkathman: yes
[05:36] <robin_> kkathman: that's a bad thing
[05:36] <robin_> kkathman: well i will stich to mplayer
[05:39] <apokryphos> robin_: are you on breezy?
[05:39] <apokryphos> oh yeah, wait.. /me remembers. I think there's an open bug on that
[05:40] <apokryphos> hm, looks like that guy didn't report it
[05:40] <apokryphos> robin_: please file a bug report, if you can. bugzilla.ubuntu.com
[05:41] <laszlok> how do you install the mplayer gui?
[05:41] <apokryphos> laszlok: make sure you have gmplayer, then just alt+f2 -> gmplayer
[05:42] <laszlok> Couldnt find package gmplayer
[05:42] <dab> hi
[05:43] <apokryphos> laszlok: maybe you have it already then; go on to step 2
[05:43] <apokryphos> hi dab
[05:43] <laszlok> wow thats odd, i do have it installed
[05:44] <dab> everyone once in awhile my computer completely freezes on my new breezy (my old hoary, on a different hard disk, works just fine). i can move the mouse (but no click-through). i have no idea where to begin --
[05:44] <apokryphos> not that odd; good idea to bring it in with mplayer
[05:45] <manveru> dabugas: do you use renderaccel with a nvidia?
[05:46] <manveru> dabugas: because i have the same problem sometimes... without any reason (but most of the time while opening a kopete-window)
[05:46] <dabugas> manveru: i get it in freeciv and angband, but i can watch a full dvd without a problem
[05:47] <dabugas> manveru: i have GeForce2 MX/MX 400 with the 'nv' driver (not the 'nvidia')
[05:47] <manveru> dabugas: well, i rarely play on my computer... so don't know about it
[05:47] <manveru> dabugas: i have a geforce 4200 ti... with the nvidia-driver - so no common base here
[05:47] <dabugas> manveru: it has happened in other situations, though
[05:48] <dabugas> manveru: in my case everything freezes, no keyboard input, but i can move the mouse
[05:48] <manveru> it never happens on my laptop (wich has no nvidia-card)
[05:49] <manveru> yeah, but clicking has no effect - and you can't switch - using the [ctrl] +[alt] +[f1...]
[05:49] <dabugas> it shouldn't be the card, because hoary seems to work fine
[05:49] <manveru> but you use a different xorg-server
[05:49] <dabugas> i don't think i tried switching to a term but alt+ctrl+del and alt+ctrl+backspace do nothing
[05:49] <dabugas> yeah i have xorg on both
[05:50] <manveru> check the versions
[05:50] <dabugas> ah, sorry, misread. ignore last comment.
[05:51] <dabugas> well, breezy has the xserver-xorg-driver-nv package which was absent in hoary.
[05:52] <dabugas> you think the problem is in the driver itself?
[06:10] <davedorm> hey all
[06:10] <davedorm> how do I see if my webcam works in Kubuntu
[06:20] <obsvuugj> salut
[06:20] <obsvuugj> hi
[06:21] <obsvuugj> how do I shutdown the computer ? in the K menu I have Log Out ! no Shut Down :(
[06:22] <_xuniL> press log out and then... shut down
[06:22] <_xuniL> "turn off computer
[06:22] <_xuniL> "
[06:23] <obsvuugj> I don't have turn off the computer! I have only "End current session"
[06:24] <_xuniL> hmm.. i atleast got it :(
[06:26] <_xuniL> well you could try this in console... i think you shouldent turn off computer like this but init 0
[06:26] <_xuniL> know it works on suse
[06:28] <obsvuugj> _xuniL> or sudo halt ;)
[06:29] <_xuniL> buy init 0 works right?
[06:30] <obsvuugj> _xuniL> I don't know
[06:30] <_xuniL> k
[06:31] <frank23> they fixed the kcontrol bug?? Joy!
[06:47] <slicslak> it would be nice to have an rsync browser built into konq.  browse the dir struct via ssh, down/uploads are done with rsync.  i don't know of any app that does this.  anyone?
[06:50] <_system> first time user
[06:51] <_system> finally online!
[06:51] <_system> Is there a noob room ?
[06:52] <Tm_T> yes
[06:52] <Tm_T> #noob
[06:52] <Riddell> _system: welcome along
[06:52] <Tm_T> ;)
[06:52] <_system> thanks!
[06:52] <_system> JOIN #noob
[06:52] <Riddell> _system: here is always good for kubuntu chat and questions
[06:52] <Riddell> _system: /join
[06:53] <_system> oops..thanks R
[06:57] <Tm_T> hmm, I wonder what that #noob really contains
[06:57] <Tm_T> just thought people understand it as joke
[06:57] <Tm_T> apparently not
[07:11] <Riddell> Tm_T: I didn't understand it as a joke, use smileys on jokes
[07:25] <Mars> Hi
[07:25] <Mars> What program do you use as a dvd player?
[07:26] <_xuniL> xine!
[07:26] <Tm_T> Riddell: I should, but then I'm supposed to use smileys all the time :p
[07:26] <Tm_T> Mars: kmplayer, mplayer, xine, gxine, kaffeine, <your favourite>
[07:28] <hussam_> Will dapper's kernel be compiled with gcc-4.0 or gcc-3.4 like breezy?
[07:29] <Riddell> hussam_: not sure, fabbione is the one to ask
[07:30] <hussam_> Riddell: ok thanks
[07:38] <_stephan> Ich htte mal ne Frage zu Firefox: Unter Debian konnte ich immer in Foren geschriebene aber nicht verlinkte http-Links makieren und mittels mittlerer Maustaste sofort aufrufen. Das geht jetzt unter kubuntu nicht mehr.  NO! NO!  THEY ONLY THINK THEY'RE FREE!
[07:49] <kkathman> uhmm isnt ubuntu free?
[07:49] <neoncode> wait, if kubuntu is free, then how can you buy it?
[07:49] <seezer> at1as: could you hit shift once?
  Sorry, I was doing my best FUD imitation....
[07:49] <at1as>  ;)
[07:49] <at1as> heheh
[07:49] <kkathman> rofl
[07:50] <Tm_T> at1as: do again and I'll make sure you day sloooowly
[07:50] <Tm_T> s/day/die/
[07:50] <neoncode> lol
[07:50] <Broxtor> Hi. I read everywhere on the net that it is pretty complicated to get lirc working under hoary. Has this improved in Breezy?
[07:51] <kkathman> Broxtor: yeah very hard... you type iirc at the konsole....worked in hoary too
[07:51] <neoncode> I had no problems getting IRC to work with breezy. I just installed it and opened konversation
[07:51] <angelusco> hola a todos, HI Everybody
[07:51] <seezer> irc != lirc
[07:51] <Tm_T> kkathman: lirc ..
[07:51] <Broxtor> seezer: Thanks!
[07:51] <kkathman> hey angelusco :)
[07:52] <Tm_T> Linux InfraRed Control (?)
[07:52] <angelusco> could somebody tell me how to use mono ???
[07:52] <kkathman> ohh  my bad...looked like iirc
[07:52] <angelusco> hello kkathman
[07:52] <Broxtor> kkathman: I think I've got IRC working....
[07:52] <Broxtor> ;-0
[07:52] <Broxtor> ;-)
[07:52] <angelusco> sup rsphink
[07:52] <neoncode> annnnndd amaroK crashed agean... .
[07:53] <angelusco> sup raphink *
[07:53] <Update> amaroK is crack
[07:53] <seezer> angelusco: i bet http://www.mono-project.com will do ;)
[07:53] <Update> LOL
[07:53] <neoncode> what's wrong with it? It seemed ok to me...
[07:53] <angelusco> #kubuntu-es
[07:53] <at1as> amarok rules (when it's not crashing)
[07:54] <seezer> 1.3.5 is pretty stable
[07:54] <angelusco> seezer, well actually i was reading that site but i couln't run mono
[07:54] <Update>  amarok roles
[07:54] <angelusco> just installed it
[07:54] <Update> rolls
[07:54] <neoncode> I'd tell you what version i have... if I could get into it... :(
[07:54] <seezer> angelusco: and now you want to _run_ mono?
[07:55] <apokryphos> neoncode: dpkg -l|grep amarok
[07:55] <apokryphos> my amarok never crashes...
[07:55] <angelusco> yap, when i do click on the icon in my desktop it only open some folder, but not the program
[07:56] <neoncode> I have 1.3.1-0ubuntu4 apparently...
[07:56] <Update> i bet amarok is sposored by RIAA
[07:56] <neoncode> Update: why do you think that?
[07:56] <seezer> angelusco: mono is no programm. its a framework, compiler etc
[07:56] <Update> because it makes sence
[07:56] <seezer> angelusco: just get mono applications - or do you want to code for/with mono?
[07:57] <neoncode> update: why does it make sence? are you messing with me?
[07:58] <angelusco> i mean i used to make some programs on visual basic (microsoft) but now i want to drop that garbage but i can't cu'z i can's make programs on linux (kubuntu)
[07:58] <Update> because amarok makes a list of mp3s and do tell about it some here on the net
[07:58] <Update> im telling you amarok is a snitch program
[07:59] <kkathman> Update...its not against the law to play mp3s on your computer...and amarok isnt p2p
[07:59] <seezer> angelusco: better read the manuals and docs on mono-project.com again. they tell you everything.
[07:59] <insanekane> angelusco: try gambas :)
[07:59] <angelusco> bbl
[07:59] <angelusco> i will c u on the night or maybe tomorrow
[07:59] <angelusco> need to work
[08:00] <seezer> angelusco: "mono" is just framework,compiler,libraries. monodevelop is perhaps what you're searching for
[08:00] <seezer> it's an IDE for mono
[08:00] <neoncode> err i'm new to IRC what does "[18:58]  * seezer shows neoncode /ignore" mean?...
[08:00] <Update> i got kubuntu thru p2p
[08:01] <kkathman> Update: dont know why...there are hundreds of download site :)
[08:01] <kkathman> sites
[08:01] <seezer> neoncode: first, that there is a ignorelist you could use to get rid of guys like Update, and second that you could just use a brainbased filter and don't react on his sweet trolling
[08:01] <Update> ive got proff
[08:02] <neoncode> ohh!... he's a troll?... Ohh..
[08:03] <seezer> neoncode: he just got my personal tag. decide yourself.
[08:03] <Update> im taged now :)
[08:03] <neoncode> "personal tag"?
[08:03] <Update> what else is news ?
[08:04] <_xuniL> are there a way to turn the pc to standby?
[08:04] <Update> no toe tag
[08:04] <_xuniL> ??
[08:05] <Update> BBroxtor is a pig
[08:05] <rikva> !hibernate
[08:05] <ubotu> I haven't a clue, rikva
[08:05] <rikva> !ssuspend
[08:05] <ubotu> rikva: Are you smoking crack?
[08:05] <rikva> nevermind.
[08:05] <_xuniL> are there a way to turn linux in standby?
[08:05] <rikva> _xuniL: search on software suspend @ google
[08:05] <mth`MAW> Good evening
[08:05] <_xuniL> ooc ok..
[08:06] <_xuniL> http://www.suspend2.net/
[08:06] <Update> any one cracked kubuntu yet ?
[08:07] <_xuniL> cracked?
[08:07] <neoncode> cracked?
[08:07] <_xuniL> what is it to crack?
[08:07] <kkathman> _xuniL and neoncode just ignore him he's just trying to troll
[08:07] <_xuniL> k
[08:07] <Update> broken in
[08:08] <neoncode> what was the synax of that ignore command agean?
[08:08] <Update> any one hacked a felow kubuntu user yet ?
[08:08] <_xuniL> rikva finding hibernate in adept its that the right dont whant to install from sourcE?
[08:09] <Update> i ear kubuntu dosent have firewall heh
[08:09] <rikva> _xuniL: i have no idea, i never used it
[08:09] <Update> thats why its called breeezzyyyy
[08:09] <rikva> Update: what is your point?
[08:09] <kkathman> neoncode: just do /ignore  name
[08:10] <kkathman> rikva: same thing...we get trolls all the time..just  /ignore them
[08:10] <neoncode> Ahh sweet relief
[08:10] <_xuniL> testing the hibernate thing now..
[08:10] <rikva> kkathman: are there no ops here?
[08:10] <kkathman> rikva:  yes there are
[08:10] <Update> SIGN A PETITION
[08:11] <kkathman> part of the "philosophy" is that these people want you to kick them to instigate...so its just better to /ignore
[08:12] <neoncode> if someone is on your ignore list can they read your messages?
[08:12] <rikva> kkathman: i get the point... don't feed the trolls =)
[08:12] <kkathman> neoncode: yes
[08:12] <kkathman> rikva: kind of like animals :)
[08:13] <neoncode> K, sorry for my newbish'ness everyone.
[08:13] <kkathman> np neoncode
[08:13] <robin_> what's wrong with Update ?
[08:14] <kkathman> robin_: /ignore him
[08:14] <robin_> kkathman: roger that
[08:14] <neoncode> just for future refrence, how do you un-ignore people?
[08:15] <kkathman> hehe
[08:15] <robin_> neoncode what about /unignore
[08:16] <neoncode> [19:16]  [421]  unignore Unknown command
[08:16] <robin_> neoncode: you are not using irssi (!)
[08:16] <neoncode> Robin_:... what's that?
[08:16] <kkathman> if you use konversation its easy
[08:17] <robin_> neoncode: paradise on earth
[08:17] <neoncode> robin_: very discriptive. so what is it?
[08:17] <robin_> neoncode: an cli based irc client
[08:17] <neoncode> and yes I use konversation
[08:17] <robin_> neoncode: ncurses
[08:18] <neoncode> robin_: what?
[08:18] <robin_> neoncode: just an irc client for non-gui environments
[08:18] <robin_> neoncode: capice?
[08:18] <robin_> :)
[08:18] <neoncode> capice?
[08:18] <robin_> neoncode: nvm
[08:18] <neoncode> I said I was new to this...
[08:19] <kkathman> to turn ignore off...its simply /ignore off name
[08:19] <kkathman> default is on
[08:20] <kkathman> or it might be /ignore name off  but I dont think it makes any difference
[08:20] <robin_> neoncode: np, you understand what irssi is now /
[08:20] <neoncode> robin_: a CLI based IRC client
[08:21] <robin_> !irssi
[08:21] <ubotu> irssi is, like, http://f0rked.com/core/irssi
[08:21] <neoncode> robin_: I like GUI's though... but that's just the windows user in me talking with it's last dieing breath
[08:21] <robin_> neoncode: hehe i'm using a GUI, but the irc client is running on my server 24/7
[08:22] <kkathman> but if you are in kubuntu, why would you want to use a konsole IRC?
[08:22] <robin_> neoncode: i'm remote logged in with ssh on my server to use irssi :)
[08:22] <robin_> kkathman: because I do turn off my desktop, but not my server.
[08:22] <kkathman> ahh ok..that makes sense
[08:22] <kkathman> but I'd think you are a bit different than most :)
[08:23] <kkathman> not a bad way...just different :)
[08:23] <robin_> :)
[08:23] <robin_> well I'm not the only one, which use it this way though
[08:24] <kkathman> since I have multiple linux and windows boxes here on my network at home
[08:24] <robin_> kkathman: well my linux box isn't do much, it is a mail server, and I use it for IRC :)
[08:25] <robin_> *doing
[08:25] <kkathman> robin_: I would like to turn mine into a development server for web sites
[08:25] <robin_> kkathman: oh true, I have a cvs server on it.
[08:25] <kkathman> I've just not researched what I need to do
[08:25] <kkathman> CVS is part of it sure
[08:26] <at1as>
[08:28] <neoncode> I have a litte network at my home too, sorry I was AFK.
[08:30] <neoncode> Oh does linux have any kind of equivilent of the windows task manager so I can forsefully end programs?
[08:30] <manveru> neoncode: there are lots of tools for that
[08:31] <neoncode> manveru: such as? amaroK is now frozen...
[08:31] <manveru> try [ctrl] +[alt] +[esc]  and click on it
[08:32] <neoncode> Opps...
[08:32] <manveru> you could also go to the commandline and type 'killall amarok'
[08:33] <manveru> and there are of course graphical tools, like ksysguard
[08:33] <neoncode> It was minimised to the system tray thingy and I held that and clicked on the task bar and well... it worked alright...
[08:33] <manveru> ^^
[08:33] <manveru> kicker should come back
[08:33] <at1as>
[08:33] <manveru> at1as: you are not kicker... are you?
[08:33] <neoncode> Is there a keybord shortcut for the command line?
[08:34] <manveru> yeah
[08:34] <neoncode> what?
[08:34] <kkathman> neoncode: Ksysguard
[08:34] <kkathman> if you are in Kubuntu that is
[08:34] <robin_> what is the short-key to get in the google search box in konqueror like ctrl+k in Firefox ?
[08:35] <manveru> i use yakuake for the command-line
[08:35] <robin_> manveru: yeah yakuake is good.
[08:35] <kkathman> neoncode: at the CLI you can use ps -au  or ps -aux (x gives you the system processes)
[08:35] <neoncode> What is the keyboard shortcut for the command line...I killed my kciker and and need a command line to bring it back...
[08:35] <robin_> manveru: except shift+insert doesn't work for me
[08:35] <robin_> neoncode: alt+f2 -> konsole
[08:36] <kkathman> neoncode: alt-F2
[08:36] <kkathman> or alt-F2 kicker
[08:36] <robin_> what is the short-key to get in the google search box in konqueror like ctrl+k in Firefox ?
[08:36] <manveru> robin_: yeah, have the same problem - i have to cut&paste via mouse
[08:36] <neoncode> robin_ Ctrl + H I think....
[08:36] <manveru> you can lookup all of konquerors shortcuts in the options
[08:37] <robin_> manveru: yeah me2
[08:37] <robin_> neoncode: doesn't work
[08:37] <neoncode> Ahh lovely I got my taskbar back
[08:37] <robin_> manveru: oh, will take a look
[08:37] <kkathman> hehe neoncode
[08:38] <robin_> manveru: hmm don't see them, could you tell where they are listed exactly ?
[08:38] <manveru> wait a sec
[08:38] <neoncode> CTRL + K!!!
[08:38] <neoncode> that;s it
[08:38] <robin_> neoncode: no that's firefox
[08:38] <robin_> neoncode: at least, not working here
[08:38] <manveru> not working for me as well
[08:38] <neoncode> I thought you ment firefox?
[08:38] <manveru> robin_: it's in options>shortcuts
[08:39] <robin_> neoncode: lol, no konqueror
[08:39] <robin_> manveru: yes I see, stupid me..
[08:39] <neoncode> Ah...
[08:39] <robin_> manveru: now I need to find the google / search entry
[08:41] <robin_> hmm it says ctrl+s
[08:41] <manveru> the 'focus searchbar' seems like the closest to me
[08:41] <manveru> but it doesn't do that
[08:42] <robin_> manveru: I changed it to CTRL+K, and now it work
[08:42] <robin_> manveru: bug ?
[08:43] <manveru> maybe...
[08:43] <manveru> i don't use it so i never noticed it
[08:43] <robin_> well it works now, i'm happy :)
[08:43] <neoncode> what's the name of the system tray program thing... ive lost that now...
[08:43] <kkathman> prolly not a bug..but possibly an enhancement request :)
[08:43] <robin_> neoncode: you are losing it
[08:43] <robin_> neoncode: is everything crashing ??
[08:43] <neoncode> no
[08:43] <manveru> neoncode: just right-click on kicker... and search a bit in the [add program]
[08:44] <kkathman> lol
[08:44] <manveru> not sure how it is called in english...
[08:44] <kkathman> neoncode: right click the kicker...add to panel, applet...system tray
[08:45] <neoncode> it's grayed out and also selected already
[08:45] <manveru> then remove it
[08:45] <kkathman> thats what manveru was saying
[08:45] <manveru> and add it again
[08:45] <neoncode> it's grayed out, clicking does nothing
[08:45] <manveru> didn't know it was called applet
[08:47] <manveru> kkathman: how can i add a shortcut to '3ddesk' in kde?
[08:47] <neoncode> Oooo!! remove from tray... wait I removed it then added it agean and it still is not there.....
[08:48] <manveru> well
[08:48] <manveru> maybe it's not visible to you
[08:48] <manveru> and it is at some odd position
[08:48] <manveru> in this case - delete your kicker-configuration
[08:49] <max> hi
[08:49] <Update> LO
[08:50] <Update> L
[08:50] <neoncode> Oh! Wait I found it I trrned handles back to visible in the congiuration and it was beetween virtual desktops and programs list. but it has nothing on it...
[08:50] <manveru> ^^
[08:51] <neoncode> >_>;;
[08:51] <flixor> nexu, hy how are you doing is your box oke
[08:55] <neoncode> whoa. Did I just get kicked or something. I just suddenly seemed to log back on...
[08:55] <kkathman> neoncode:  yes
[08:56] <kkathman> [13:54]  <-- neoncode has left this server. (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer))
[08:56] <neoncode> Ohh... but I was not kicked by an op? just a connection error... I hope...
[08:56] <kkathman> no
[08:56] <kkathman> not kicked :)
[08:56] <neoncode> That's good
[08:57] <kkathman> hehe
[08:57] <kkathman> its very very rare that someone gets kicked
[08:57] <neoncode> that's kinna good
[08:57] <Robdor> are the backports for breezy available yet?
[08:57] <crimsun> no.
[08:57] <kkathman> Robdor: no
[08:57] <neoncode> backports?
[08:58] <kkathman> neoncode: backports are kind of "alternative" sources for certain applications
[08:59] <neoncode> kkathman: Ah ok.. sorry everyone for asking about everything...
[08:59] <manveru> somebody who is using konversation here?
[08:59] <crimsun> backports are newer versions of software from the development branch backported to the most recent stable release
[08:59] <kkathman> no problem...its how you learn
[08:59] <neoncode> KKathman: ok..
[08:59] <kkathman> thats the technical explanation :)
[08:59] <neoncode> Manveru: I am!
[08:59] <kkathman> manveru: me too
[09:00] <manveru> i just accidentally deactivated the bar with [options]  [help]  and stuff
[09:00] <manveru> how do i get it back?
[09:00] <kkathman> ctrl-m
[09:00] <manveru> ty :)
[09:00] <kkathman> if I understand your question
[09:00] <manveru> yeah, just didn't know how to call it
[09:00] <neoncode> you know that phrase in brackets that comes up when you leave. can you edit that?
[09:00] <manveru> menubar might be a good word
[09:00] <kkathman> well anyway
[09:01] <manveru> Qt: 3.3.4
[09:01] <manveru> KDE: 3.4.3
[09:01] <manveru> kde-config: 1.0
[09:01] <manveru> ah, sorry
[09:01] <manveru> going to #test :)
[09:01] <manveru> just found out about the shortcuts ^^
[09:01] <neoncode> what's #test?
[09:01] <kkathman> ?
[09:02] <neoncode> appart from a chanel
[09:02] <neoncode> I know that much
[09:02] <manveru> a channel
[09:02] <kkathman> some channel I suppose
[09:02] <neoncode> but what;s it for?
[09:02] <manveru> ...
[09:02] <manveru> for testing :)
[09:02] <kkathman> no clue never been there
[09:02] <neoncode> I guessed that much, for testing what?
[09:02] <manveru> it's for people like me who want to test 'stuff'
[09:03] <neoncode> like "/me" and stuff
[09:03] <manveru> exactly
[09:03] <neoncode> Ooo
[09:03] <manveru> the /google is cool
[09:03] <laserline> Hello all, How can I add the "My Computer" on the kubuntu desktop ?
[09:03] <neoncode> does kubunut have a "my computer"?
[09:04] <manveru> laserline: what is _your computer_ ?
[09:04] <neoncode> *kubuntu
[09:04] <manveru> would feel odd if i had my computer on my desktop
[09:04] <jjesse> my computer is for windows
[09:04] <laserline> manveru the "My Computer" Icon
[09:04] <laserline> manveru Like I did in Gnome..
[09:04] <neoncode> I think he means like on windows with a list of all mounted drives and such
[09:04] <jjesse> if you just open up konq it looks almost the same as my computer?
[09:04] <laserline> neoncode yeah... that's it.
[09:04] <kkathman> laserline: closest thing is the System Settings...its on your K-menu, just find it and drag it to the desktop
[09:04] <manveru> it's been a while since i used windows or gnome
[09:05] <neoncode> I now have a hatrid for windows
[09:05] <laserline> But I don't see an Icon for my mounted windows partitons - they are on the fstab and I can see them in gnome...
[09:05] <firephoto> it would be the "Home" icon that is a kde default (not distro default)
[09:06] <neoncode> The irony is I heard that microsoft's new wireless network service that they are getting installed actualy useses liunx for it's servers... that's what I think I read somewhere...
[09:06] <laserline> Is there a way to add other mounted drives to the Storage ?
[09:06] <robin_> neoncode: well hotmail have run on Linux for years, nothing new, MS nows the power of Linux :)
[09:07] <robin_> *know
[09:07] <robin_> s
[09:07] <kkathman> laserline: go to the System Settings - Desktop - Behavior - tab for Device Icons
[09:07] <manveru> robin_: so they are not the _one OS to rule them all_ anymore?
[09:07] <kkathman> if they are samba shares you can enable the icons there
[09:07] <laserline> kkathman I was there, and checked the "show icons for mounted devices.." still nothing happens (I refreshed the desktop too)
[09:07] <neoncode> robin_: evan with their anti-linux "get the(microsoft funded research) facts" campain
[09:08] <neoncode> manveru: I don't think windows was ever "the one OS to rule them all"
[09:08] <kkathman> laserline: right click the desktop - create new - link to Device...and see if your shares are listed under NFS
[09:08] <robin_> hehe not really no.
[09:08] <laserline> kkathman they are listed there
[09:09] <manveru> neoncode: at least they where, if you believe them
[09:09] <neoncode> they just copyed apple for the GUI
[09:09] <kkathman> laserline: then just create a link there then
[09:09] <laserline> kkathman When I choose link to Harddisk device I get them.
[09:09] <kkathman> right
[09:09] <neoncode> and besides, Gmail > Hotmail by far
[09:10] <kkathman> laserline: but not under NFS?
[09:10] <robin_> well but google works with the NSA right :)
[09:10] <robin_> or for.
[09:10] <neoncode> They do?
[09:10] <laserline> kkathman I see them under NFS too
[09:10] <robin_> conspiracy theory
[09:10] <kkathman> laserline: choose that and create your icon
[09:10] <neoncode> and this means?
[09:10] <firephoto> i think it was a current/ex cia dood that was hired early on... ;)
[09:11] <laserline> kkathman 1. Why NFS? 2. How can I add this icon to the Storage in Konquereo
[09:11] <robin_> neoncode: some pple think it is.
[09:11] <neoncode> Well I like google... better than micro$uck
[09:12] <kkathman> laserline: if you create the icon, and the share is good, Konqueror will automatically open
[09:12] <neoncode> google should make an OS! GoogleOS!
[09:12] <robin_> firephoto: not CIA, but NSA
[09:12] <kkathman> neoncode: thats coming soon I think
[09:12] <neoncode> lol
[09:13] <neoncode> they've made everything else
[09:13] <robin_> you can earn dollars from google when you have a link on your website to firefox downloads with googlebar.
[09:13] <laserline> kkathman That works, but what I want is diffrent. I would like it to be like in windows, where I see all my mounted drives, instead of haveing drive icons. I saw it in a diffrent distro, but don't know how to do it here...
[09:13] <robin_> it is in the new adsense program.
[09:13] <kkathman> laserline: you can see that in konq
[09:13] <robin_> good pr for firefox I think.
[09:14] <robin_> down with IE.
[09:14] <robin_> before IE7 is launched :)
[09:14] <neoncode> i never saw the need of the google search bar in firefox
[09:14] <neoncode> we already have one
[09:14] <neoncode> built in
[09:14] <neoncode> and IE is the spawn of satan
[09:14] <laserline> kkathman Yeah, but when I link it, Konq doesn't show the icon....
[09:14] <robin_> neoncode: me neither, but like the idea
[09:14] <robin_> google is tracking to much information
[09:15] <spiral> hi
[09:15] <neoncode> have you seen the screen shots of IE7? the interface is vrtualy a clone of firefox
[09:15] <robin_> everything is linked all your e-mails, search history
[09:15] <robin_> whatever
[09:15] <robin_> neoncode: don't agree, because they have tabs ??
[09:15] <neoncode> and that search bar thing
[09:15] <robin_> I think Longhorn looks nice, but I don't want such a resource eating OS.
[09:15] <neoncode> robin_: it's vista now
[09:16] <robin_> vista longhorn, whocares.
[09:16] <robin_> crap
[09:16] <neoncode> I was looking into it before I moved to firefox
[09:16] <laserline> kkathman you understand what I mean ?
[09:16] <neoncode> is that TCPA junk actualy true?
[09:16] <laserline> kkathman I only have in storage "floppy Drive" and "OneTouch160GB (external usb2 drive) but my windows partitiones aren't there....
[09:17] <robin_> neoncode: TCPA ?
[09:17] <kkathman> laserline: start Konqueror, then choose the left panel under ROOT...then choose /media...all of your shares will be there
[09:17] <neoncode> Trusted Computeing
[09:17] <robin_> enlighten me
[09:17] <neoncode> hold on
[09:17] <robin_> what does it do :)
[09:18] <nexu> flixor: zup ?
[09:18] <laserline> kkathman left panel ?
[09:18] <flixor> join kubuntu-nl please
[09:18] <neoncode> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trusted_Computing
[09:18] <neoncode> read that
[09:19] <robin_> neoncode: Yes Sir !
[09:19] <kkathman> laserline: dont your have a little panel on your Konq that has icons on it..like a house, a start a folder, a clock and a flag
[09:19] <nexu> flixor: no one there
[09:19] <kkathman> far left
[09:19] <neoncode> robin_: XD
[09:19] <flixor> no one there kubuntu-nl
[09:19] <flixor> impossible
[09:19] <flixor> i am there with 6 others nexu
[09:19] <kkathman> if not, go to the address line and type /media
[09:19] <laserline> kkathman you mean when I start konq I see the konq homepage (storage, trash, etc...)
[09:20] <neoncode> rofl : "[20:18]  <-- Danny| has left this server. ("MMORPG. Mostly Men Online Roleplaying Girls.")"
[09:21] <DewKnight> Hello... I have a problem and I want to know if anybody might be able to help me out. I have described the problem here: http://surmunity.com/showthread.php?p=139507
[09:21] <robin_> neoncode: I don't like the idea about Trusted_Computing
[09:22] <kkathman> laserline: just type /media
[09:22] <neoncode> robin_: that's the main reson I ditched microsoft for linux
[09:22] <kkathman> laserline: in the address box
[09:22] <neoncode> It was an impluse desision.. XP
[09:22] <robin_> neoncode: ok, but now you can't play games anymore :)
[09:23] <neoncode> robin_: WINE, clegra?
[09:23] <robin_> neoncode: cedaga you mean
[09:23] <robin_> neoncode: clegra sounds like a disease
[09:23] <neoncode> robin_: yes
[09:23] <neoncode> rofl
[09:23] <neoncode> but WINE sounds ok
[09:23] <neoncode> I heard they got a beta version now
[09:23] <robin_> yeah some work, some don't
[09:23] <neoncode> after 13 years of development
[09:23] <DewKnight> anybody have any ideas...?
[09:24] <Drakeson> neoncode: I am using an internet service provider in canada which has recently got a proxy/firewall/filter/crap ... from microsoft.
[09:24] <laserline> kkathman I did that before logging here... I only see my floppy and my usb external drive. but not my other partitions. note that they are mounted properly.
[09:24] <robin_> I like ID games, they make native games voor LInux.
[09:24] <neoncode> do you know if morrowint works?
[09:24] <Drakeson> seems MS did a lot of thing to them. Internet Explorer under wine grabs pages much much faster Konq/Firefox.
[09:24] <neoncode> *morrowind
[09:24] <robin_> neoncode: morrowind
[09:24] <robin_> neoncode: don't think so.
[09:24] <neoncode> robbin: damn
[09:24] <Drakeson> They had previously got linux support but now just tell the I have linux and the agent at the help desk is about to kill you
[09:24] <robin_> neoncode: what's wrong with your typo's :)
[09:24] <neoncode> robin: what do you mean?
[09:25] <robin_> neoncode: nvm, you make a lot of typo's np
[09:25] <kkathman> laserline: odd... very odd then, cuz mine show up fine
[09:25] <neoncode> robin: tiard(I carn't spell ether....)
[09:25] <DewKnight> I would really appreciate any help that anybody could give for my issue here: http://surmunity.com/showthread.php?p=139507
[09:25] <robin_> neoncode: lol
[09:26] <nexu> ?
[09:26] <robin_> where are u from ?
[09:26] <robin_> neoncode:
[09:26] <kkathman> laserline: did you happen to make one of those icons for a samba share?
[09:26] <neoncode> robbin: England.
[09:26] <robin_> it is robin
[09:26] <flixor> what nexu ?? cant you join the channel
[09:26] <neoncode> I know...
[09:26] <robin_> neoncode: ok, well I suck in English, so don't mind my typo's either ;)
[09:27] <neoncode> robbin: you?
[09:27] <robin_> neoncode: the netherlands.
[09:27] <robin_> The Netherlands, Holland, whatever.
[09:27] <neoncode> robin: oh, ho.
[09:28] <robin_> ho ?
[09:28] <neoncode> nvm
[09:28] <robin_> k
[09:28] <robin_> you bet
[09:28] <neoncode> lol
[09:28] <robin_> too bad wine isn't working on amd64 linux
[09:28] <kkathman> oops guess he got frustrated
[09:28] <DewKnight> ok.. thanks much....
[09:28] <robin_> Maybe I should install i386 version.
[09:29] <neoncode> robin: why does it not work in amd64 linux anyway?
[09:29] <robin_> neoncode: there is no wine for amd64.
[09:29] <neoncode> robin_: I know but why?
[09:29] <robin_> neoncode: probably they can't get it to work, or maybe it isn't technically possible.
[09:30] <robin_> neoncode: I don't know what the real reason is.
[09:30] <manveru> i've got a card-reader here, but when i plug a card in, there is no popup
[09:30] <hedge> Can someone please help me with a clus for this error? [4294682.779000]  device-mapper: dm-linear: Device lookup failed
[09:30] <hedge> [4294682.779000]  device-mapper: error adding target to table
[09:30] <neoncode> what's the diffrence beetween i368 programs and amd64 ones anyway?
[09:30] <hedge> clue that is
[09:30] <DewKnight> alright a question.. can anybody even see what I am writing?
[09:30] <neoncode> I can!
[09:30] <robin_> neoncode: 32 and 64-bit
[09:30] <manveru> DewKnight: i, for one, can :)
[09:30] <robin_> DewKnight: yes, but we ignore you :)
[09:30] <DewKnight> ok then, so I'm just being ignored, just making sure.
[09:31] <robin_> DewKnight: no, not true, kidding.
[09:31] <manveru> somebody can help me with cardreader?
[09:31] <robin_> manveru: I don't know anything about cardreaders.
[09:31] <neoncode> robin: I knew that but do they have to make the source code radicly diffrent?
[09:31] <DewKnight> just uh.. kind of frustrated... this problem could mean my job
[09:31] <robin_> neoncode: I haven't a clue
[09:31] <neoncode> lol
[09:32] <robin_> DewKnight: what's up ?
[09:32] <robin_> DewKnight: I didn't see your problem
[09:32] <manveru> neoncode: they are differently compiled...
[09:32] <DewKnight> this: http://surmunity.com/showthread.php?t=16140
[09:33] <DewKnight> can't get a customer's backup files off of the drive in kubuntu, won't mount any other hard drives for some reason
[09:33] <neoncode> manveru: so what stops you from takeing the WINE source and compile them with a 64 bit compiler?
[09:33] <torotux> hey :D
[09:33] <hedge> Can someone please help me with a clue for this error? [4294682.779000]  device-mapper: dm-linear: Device lookup failed
[09:33] <torotux> somebody speak spanish
[09:33] <torotux> ahola!
[09:33] <torotux> hola!!
[09:33] <gerardocb> hola torotux
[09:33] <robin_> speak english or leave
[09:33] <manveru> neoncode: why would i want to do that?
[09:33] <torotux> wena
[09:33] <gerardocb> que pena que voy de salida
[09:33] <torotux> :D!
[09:34] <torotux> puxis
[09:34] <torotux> olle
[09:34] <robin_> ole ole
[09:34] <robin_> bye
[09:34] <torotux> como installo la beta2 del kde 3.5
[09:34] <neoncode> manveru: not spisifitcly you just genraly?
[09:34] <torotux> ya agrege los repositorios
[09:34] <neoncode> ahhh the power of /ignore
[09:34] <torotux> so
[09:34] <torotux> hey :d
[09:34] <torotux> i am from chile
[09:34] <manveru> neoncode: well, the generality needs a 64bit-machine and a 64bit-compiler
[09:34] <torotux> latin amrerica
[09:34] <torotux> :D
[09:35] <torotux> somebody can help me
[09:35] <manveru> neoncode: i haven't got the first, the second is every common gcc
[09:35] <torotux> i need to install wine with a graphic interface to kde
[09:35] <robin_> If you speak english, maybe someone will
[09:35] <torotux> :D thX
[09:35] <robin_> DewKnight: I read the msg
[09:35] <torotux> LOL
[09:35] <torotux> can help me plz
[09:35] <DewKnight> any ideas what might be happening?
[09:36] <neoncode> manveru: I ment that they siad that there was not a 64 bit version of WINE. what stops the WINE developers from compileing WINE with gcc under 64 bit?
[09:36] <robin_> DewKnight: well, what have you actualy done to mount it ?
[09:36] <robin_> DewKnight: I mean which cmds ?
[09:36] <kkathman> torotux: wine really doesnt have a "graphic" interface to kde
[09:36] <torotux> thnx
[09:36] <manveru> neoncode: dunno - they have really nasty code - so there might arise some problems (since they are not emulating)
[09:36] <kkathman> ubotu tell torotux about wine
[09:36] <robin_> torotux: well there is
[09:36] <DewKnight> well, I don't actually know much about linux, I have tried just clicking on the drive and it gets that error, do not know the commands to mount the drive via the.. shell is it..?
[09:36] <torotux> thX
[09:36] <torotux> :D
[09:36] <robin_> torotux: some gtk thing
[09:37] <robin_> torotux: old, don't know name, look in apt
[09:37] <DewKnight> sorry, I only use linux to recover files from hard drives that windows can't see.. I know almost nothing
[09:37] <kkathman> torotux: read that post that ubotu just sent
[09:37] <torotux> THx :D
[09:37] <robin_> DewKnight: okay, that's explain it
[09:37] <manveru> DewKnight: this one is easy
[09:37] <torotux> :D
[09:37] <torotux> some page in spanish
[09:37] <torotux> plz
[09:37] <robin_> DewKnight: well you are on the PC right now ?
[09:37] <manveru> DewKnight: do you know what filesystem the target-drive has?
[09:37] <robin_> DewKnight: you have to mount it through console.
[09:37] <DewKnight> the target drive is Fat32
[09:37] <robin_> DewKnight: ??
[09:38] <robin_> DewKnight: windows ?
[09:38] <neoncode> manveru: Ahh
[09:38] <robin_> Will_: why do you want to mount it in Linux ?
[09:38] <manveru> DewKnight: alright - the command is 'mount -t vfat /dev/hda1 /mount/hda1' (this has to be fitted to your needs
[09:38] <robin_> DewKnight: why do you want to mount it in linux
[09:38] <robin_> DewKnight: anyway, do what manveru says
[09:38] <kkathman> torotux: try this channel  #kubuntu-es
[09:38] <neoncode> Well it's getting confuseing only hearing half of the conversasion as i /ignored torotux so i'm gona go. thanks for your help everyone
[09:39] <DewKnight> the drive that has the backup files on it is the drive that has kubuntu loaded on it, I am trying to get these files from linux, to the laptop, which ruins windows. the laptop drive has a fat32 filesystem
[09:39] <robin_> neoncode: cay
[09:39] <robin_> neoncode: cya
[09:39] <manveru> neoncode: torotux doesn't say much :)
[09:39] <manveru> however...
[09:39] <torotux> then u :D
[09:39] <torotux> i am noob in this program :D
[09:39] <robin_> just /ignore him, rude but true
[09:39] <kkathman> torotux: they speak spanish in #kubuntu-es
[09:40] <torotux> thx
[09:40] <torotux> :D
[09:40] <DewKnight> and by fitted to my needs.. what exactly does that mean?
[09:40] <torotux> i am read now the howto :D to install wine :D
[09:40] <kkathman> ok
[09:40] <manveru> DewKnight: how many harddisks does your laptop have? :) (one i guess - so the command is right anyway)
[09:40] <torotux> so i need some help to install kde3.5 beta 2 in my kubuntu
[09:41] <DewKnight> it is just the main hard drive with kubuntu installed on it, then this second drive
[09:41] <torotux> i have the repositories
[09:41] <robin_> DewKnight: so that will be hda2
[09:41] <robin_> DewKnight: type fdisk -l
[09:41] <robin_> DewKnight: and you will see all partitions
[09:42] <robin_> DewKnight: than you can also see the filesystems types
[09:44] <DewKnight> fdisk -l doesn't show anything, just goes to a new line. Also it gives me the error that only root can do that when trying to mount the hard drive
[09:44] <robin_> DewKnight: so be root
[09:44] <torotux> somebody use kmess?
[09:44] <robin_> DewKnight: sudo fdisk -l;
[09:44] <robin_> DewKnight: sudo fdisk -l
[09:45] <robin_> DewKnight: and use the pass of the first user.
[09:45] <manveru> DewKnight: the same goes for mounting
[09:46] <DewKnight> I thought I was.. when I set it up I just did the defaults.. when trying to use the username root, it gives me a login failed.. i tried the password that I set on the computer, as well as just blank, and just root... doesn't log in... Is there a default password for root in kubuntu..?
[09:46] <manveru> DewKnight: you have to use your username-password for sudo
[09:46] <manveru> DewKnight: there is no password for root
[09:47] <robin_> DewKnight: just login with your normal account
[09:47] <robin_> DewKnight: and use sudo
[09:47] <robin_> DewKnight: sudo fdisk -l //enter your normal pass
[09:50] <DewKnight> ok, the drive is showing up as /dev/hdc1 and filesystem is: W95 FAT32 (LBA)
[09:51] <DewKnight> when trying the mount, I tried just replacing the hda1 that was in there to hdc1 but it gavce me: mount: mount point /mount/hdc1 does not exist
[09:51] <robin_> DewKnight: does /mount/hdc1 exist ?
[09:51] <robin_> DewKnight: you must first create a mountpoint
[09:51] <robin_> DewKnight: mkdir /mnt/hdc1
[09:52] <robin_> DewKnight: and than mount /dev/hdc1 /mnt/hdc1
[09:52] <robin_> DewKnight: and than mount /dev/hdc1 /mnt/hdc1 -t vfat
[09:52] <robin_> DewKnight: the second one ;)
[09:53] <manveru> http://qurl.net/mT
[09:53] <_pumpkin> hi all. anyone know about belkin wireless PCMCIA cards.?
[09:53] <robin_> _pumpkin: I think you can get on the internet with those
[09:54] <_pumpkin> robin_:  do ou know where to get the drivers?
[09:54] <manveru> _pumpkin: i guess you are better off in #ubuntu-laptop
[09:54] <robin_> _pumpkin: not really, what chip is it using ?
[09:54] <_pumpkin> cool
[09:54] <_pumpkin> not sure
[09:55] <robin_> _pumpkin: if it is broadcom, you probably must use ndiswrapper
[09:55] <robin_> _pumpkin: lspci -v ?
[09:55] <_pumpkin> is it writen on the back of the card?
[09:55] <DewKnight> damnit I can't tell you guys how much I am thankful. I am copying it over now, and I have all of this printed out for future reference
[09:56] <manveru> http://qurl.net/mU
[09:56] <manveru> _pumpkin: try that link
[09:56] <_pumpkin> #ubuntu-laptop
[09:56] <_pumpkin> oops
[09:56] <robin_> DewKnight: np
[09:57] <DewKnight> alright umm.. one more question... How would I copy everything from my /homne/admin/folder-here directory to this new drive? When doing it via just the graphical interface, it gives me errors that I don't have permission.. is there a simple command to copy an entire folder plus subdirectories and files to the new drive...?
[09:57] <_pumpkin> manveru: thanks.. mn this is odd. Im using a azerty keyboard.. lol
[09:58] <robin_> DewKnight: one thing, the files are Linux stuff right
[09:58] <robin_> DewKnight: should it not be backuped with the correct permissions ?
[09:58] <robin_> DewKnight: than you should create a tarball of it, and store that on the fat32
[09:59] <robin_> DewKnight: but if you don't think that is needed, you can use cp -a /source /target
[09:59] <DewKnight> The files that I backed up originally are all windows files (My documents, mostly music to be specific). How would one create a tarbell of all of that, and then copy it over to the drive? As I don't have permissions to create stuff on the drive at the moment.....
[09:59] <robin_> or cp -av if you want to see what it is copying.
[10:00] <robin_> DewKnight: if it are windows files, you dont' need to create a tarball
[10:00] <DewKnight> ok thanks
[10:00] <robin_> DewKnight: but you can't copy to the fat32 ?
[10:00] <robin_> DewKnight: you probably need to give a rw flag while mounting..
[10:00] <robin_> DewKnight: have to do a search for that, one sec.
[10:01] <robin_> DewKnight: probably something like mount -t vfat -o=rw /dev/hdc1 /mnt/hdc1 , but don't know for sure..
[10:02] <robin_> DewKnight: mount -o rw -t vfat /dev/hdc1 /mnt/hdc1
[10:03] <robin_> DewKnight: but first umount it, because you already have mount it.
[10:03] <DewKnight> thanks, just a sec
[10:03] <robin_> DewKnight: don't know if it work, I don't have fat32 can't try it out
[10:05] <robin_> DewKnight: otherwise, you run sudo cp -a /target /source
[10:05] <DewKnight> how does one unmount?
[10:05] <kkathman> umount
[10:05] <DewKnight> unmount: command not found
[10:05] <DewKnight> oh
[10:06] <robin_> DewKnight: -n
[10:10] <Knowerrors> Hi all, I get this in /var/log/message http://rafb.net/paste/results/o02LG168.html when I plug in my digital camera to the usb, can't access camera, someone know how to fix this?
[10:10] <Phazeman> Knowerrors: first of all - why would you do that to your camera ?
[10:11] <Phazeman> never plug your whole camera into the computer with usb
[10:11] <robin_> DewKnight: I gtg, but I think others here can help you further
[10:11] <DewKnight> It looks like it is copying, should have done -av
[10:11] <DewKnight> but it seems to be copying over fine.
[10:11] <Phazeman> you know that USB is going with voltage, and if something will go wrong, your camera is going babay
[10:11] <DewKnight> Thank you so much for helping out with my stupidness
[10:11] <Knowerrors> Phazeman: thats the only way to plug it in to the computer
[10:11] <Phazeman> Knowerrors: try working with card reader
[10:12] <Knowerrors> don't have one...
[10:12] <kkathman> not stupid DewKnight  just learning :)
[10:12] <Phazeman> Knowerrors: you better get yourself one if you want to keep your camera working
[10:12] <Phazeman> Knowerrors: i, personaly, burnt 1 canon camera out with a bad USB connection
[10:13] <Phazeman> ok.. i need help myself :) anybody here uses a DI 614+ router with ADSL ?
[10:16] <flixor> guys, what sources  should i  add to get hugin and its dependencies
[10:17] <etam> hi there
[10:17] <etam> how to install all header files for gcc?
[10:17] <flixor> build-essential ?? etam
[10:18] <etam> flixor: what do you mean?
[10:19] <etam> flixor: you know, your question is strange
[10:19] <flixor> maybe you should install the build-essential for the header files
[10:20] <flixor> why is it strange etam i am trying to install a program called hugin, and maybe there are more sources wich i could use to install it because in the standard sources its not
[10:20] <etam> flixor: how can i do it?
[10:21] <flixor> sudo apt-get install build-essential on the commandline
[10:21] <etam> thanks
[10:22] <kkathman> flixor: on you hugin...have you done an apt-get build-dep ?
[10:23] <kkathman> except I dont see hugin in the repos
[10:24] <flixor> no its not in ubuntu
[10:24] <DewKnight> Thanks again everyone!
[10:28] <kkathman> flixor: ok...did you download it from a source then?
[10:28] <kkathman> flixor: like a deb or something?
[10:28] <kkathman> ubotu is back!
[10:29] <ubotu> kkathman: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?
[10:29] <Tm_T> kkathman: are you?
[10:29] <flixor> kkathman, well i downloaded the source
[10:29] <flixor> but i get compile errors wich i can resolve
[10:29] <kkathman> flixor: what kind of errors?
[10:30] <flixor> ehm let me compile it again one sec
[10:30] <kkathman> flixor: usually you should get dependency errors in the ./configure  but not always
[10:30] <flixor> no in the configure i resolved all the error messages
[10:30] <flixor> but when i do the make thats when i get an error
[10:30] <kkathman> flixor: ok... well thats possible
[10:31] <kkathman> flixor: but I am told its usually because its a bad package
[10:31] <flixor> lol, well this pacakges is probabely the best pacakge to make panorama photo's
[10:32] <etam> flixor: thanks it works :)
[10:32] <flixor> on linux that is
[10:32] <flixor> cool etam :) if you are happy whe are allso happy
[10:32] <etam> flixor: maybe you tell me how can i get with apt the manpages of C functions?
[10:32] <etam> and if you are happy then i am happy :)
[10:34] <etam> flixor: can you tell me what apt package has the manpages of C functions?
[10:34] <LjL> manpages-dev
[10:35] <kkathman> LjL: I wonder if you could help me with a permissions issue?
[10:35] <flixor> etam i dont now if it exists but do a man man on the console
[10:35] <kkathman> if you have time
[10:35] <LjL> kkathman: don't think honestly, i'm never liked unix permissions too much! but you can try :)
[10:36] <kkathman> haha
[10:36] <etam> thanks
[10:36] <flixor> lol
[10:36] <kkathman> me iether
[10:36] <kkathman> well I can wait a bit then :)
[10:36] <flixor> sorry etam, it appears i gave you false information
[10:36] <seezer> kkathman: whats your problem?
[10:36] <etam> ok, the manpages-dev works :)
[10:37] <etam> be happy now ;)
[10:37] <torotux> hey
[10:39] <N1omi> how can i stop KDE from switching desktops on ctrl+tab?
[10:40] <flixor> well the easiest way is not to use it N1omi
[10:40] <seezer> N1omi: kontrol center - regional & accessibility - shortcuts
[10:41] <kkathman> seezer:  thanks... I have 3 boxes here... Box A = linux file server   Box B = Linux dev box  BoxC = Windows
[10:42] <kkathman> seezer: I want to move files from Box C to Box A while Im on Box B.... I have created directories on Box A...and chmod 777 on everything
[10:42] <N1omi> seezer, thanks! :D
[10:42] <kkathman> seezer: but I cant get permissions to copy entire trees over...presumably, cuz its stopping the folder creation (mkdirs)
[10:42] <seezer> kkathman: move by? smb? ftp? ssh?
[10:43] <N1omi> flixor, ctrl+tab changes tabs in firefox, so i don't want KDE doing anything when i use that shortcut
[10:43] <kkathman> seezer: at this point Im just using Krusader, but doesnt matter what I use
[10:43] <kkathman> seezer:  I have smb shares set up
[10:43] <flixor> kee
[10:44] <seezer> you can copy 1 file or directory but no subdir or file under a dir?
[10:45] <seezer> sounds like a weird umask - or 'creation mask' in smb.conf
[10:46] <seezer> what permissions do the copied files on A have?
[10:46] <kkathman> seezer: they are on Windows, so no permissions
[10:47] <seezer> you copy from C(win) to A(linux) i thought?
[10:47] <kkathman> seezer: yes
[10:47] <kkathman> Im on B tho
[10:47] <seezer> and no single file gets copied?
[10:47] <kkathman> trying to move them
[10:47] <propagandhi> not long now till kde 3.5 RC1
[10:48] <kkathman> seezer: well, I think FILES would be, its just that directories with files under them are stopping the copy
[10:48] <kkathman> seezer: for instance I had to go to Box A to sudo mkdir a directory before
[10:49] <seezer> kkathman: then please copy one file and an empty dir from C to A (from B) like you did before
[10:49] <seezer> and show me 'ls -l /your/path'
[10:50] <seezer> perhaps newly created directories get permissions where you can't write below them anymore
[10:50] <kkathman> seezer: well I can do that, but what I am trying to copy, is a parent directory, with multiple sub-directories each with multiple files...so you can see how it would be better to just copy the entire tree
[10:50] <seezer> (samba gives them _new_ permissions when you copy them onto the machine)
[10:51] <seezer> so let's the what they get
[10:51] <seezer> ... s/the/see/
[10:51] <kkathman> seezer:  can I change that
[10:51] <kkathman> ohh ok
[10:51] <kkathman> one sec
[10:51] <Mars_^> Hi
[10:51] <Mars_^> Someone using kxdcker?>
[10:52] <Mars_^> I cant unable xMount plugin
[10:53] <Mars_^> and all time it shows me mounts at begining
[10:53] <neoncode> Is there a way to remove this
[10:53] <kkathman> seezer:  it wont let me copy at all anything
[10:53] <neoncode> sorry I hit enter preiturely
[10:53] <kkathman> anything from C to A
[10:53] <seezer> kkathman: :)
[10:53] <neoncode> *premiturely... whatever
[10:53] <kkathman> seezer: I think thats not good :(
[10:54] <seezer> ok, check smb.conf - is the share read only?
[10:54] <seezer> kkathman: but should be no big problem - this is linux :)
[10:54] <neoncode> is there away to remove this "no root account" thing? I can log on as root but I want to have to put my root password in when useing sudo and when GUI apps ask for the root pass...
[10:54] <kkathman> let me check in smb.conf
[10:56] <seezer> neoncode: i think you just have to add a password for root
[10:56] <seezer> neoncode: sudo passwd root
[10:56] <kkathman> seezer: sorry I have no idea where to look for that
[10:56] <neoncode> seezer: I have
[10:57] <seezer> ok - one after each other :)
[10:58] <seezer> kkathman: http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/SMB-HOWTO-6.html
[10:58] <kkathman> ahh okie doke
[10:58] <seezer> those are examples for samba shares
[10:59] <angelus0_o> heyall, how do i set my hp scanjet 4400c ???
[10:59] <seezer> now see if your used share has 'read only = yes' or something
[10:59] <kkathman> seezer yah I set it up just fine..and it works
[10:59] <seezer> :)
[10:59] <kkathman> I can copy from C to B just fine
[10:59] <seezer> neoncode: ok, and now? you want sudo to ask for your root password?
[10:59] <murtaugh> does anyone know if there is a known bug with kio_audio_cd crashing breezy w/ kde 3.5 b2?
[10:59] <kkathman> well maybe I just have to create the directories manually I guess
[11:00] <neoncode> seezer: yes and when a GUI app asks for my root pass i want to enter my root pass not my user one
[11:01] <seezer> neoncode: second, just browsing the manpage
[11:01] <seezer> ah here we go.
[11:01] <neoncode> seezer:?
[11:01] <seezer> neoncode: just add 'rootpw' (the word) in /etc/sudoers
[11:01] <seezer> there is a line 'Defaults'
[11:02] <seezer> just add it with a comma
[11:03] <neoncode> my /etc/sudoers file is empty
[11:03] <angelusco> hey, how do i set my grub ??? i want that the first option be windows, and after kubuntu also a few more seconds
[11:04] <seezer> neoncode: no. try again with sudo.
[11:04] <murtaugh> angelusco, its in /boot/grub/menu.lst  Be very careful though
[11:04] <angelusco> ya i know is there but i can't set it, 'cuz i am not the root, but it doesn't ask me for the pwd
[11:05] <neoncode> seezer: to open it?
[11:05] <seezer> yes
[11:06] <neoncode> ahh
[11:06] <angelusco> how can i be in console mode like root ?
[11:06] <neoncode> is says "# This file MUST be edited with the 'visudo' command as root."
[11:06] <neoncode> *it says
[11:06] <murtaugh> angelusco, press alt-f2 and type konsole
[11:06] <seezer> neoncode: oh sorry, yes.
[11:07] <murtaugh> angelusco, then type "sudo" before any command you want to run as root
[11:07] <angelusco> ok, one more question, how do i edit some file on kde (kubuntu)
[11:07] <angelusco> i know that is gedit but over gnome
[11:08] <LjL> angelusco: you can use nano in the console, or Kate in KDE
[11:08] <neoncode> Hmm i'm gonna try something. see you later...
[11:08] <seezer> ok..
[11:14] <lithium> hi all
[11:15] <lithium> how do i set the style, color and fonts, for apps like adept which run via sudo?
[11:15] <LjL> lithium: i think i've done "sudo kcontrol" to do that
[11:18] <lithium> LjL: mmm. adept doesn't use the setting. it runs via kdesu
[11:19] <LjL> lithium: well, "kdesu kcontrol" then ;-)
[11:22] <lithium> great
[11:26] <distrojunkie> hi, i have a printer shared from mac os x via samba, though it won't print from kubuntu, the samba log on os x says document-format-not-supported, is this a driver issue or os x?
[11:27] <_StarScream> distrojunkie: might be a filter issue
[11:28] <distrojunkie> sorry, how do you mean filter?
[11:29] <_StarScream> distrojunkie: well i think the applications use filterst to 'convert' the files to something the printer will understand
[11:29] <_StarScream> i don't understand it fully my self
[11:30] <distrojunkie> ok thanks
[11:39] <ksz`shrinkyjL[os> how do i set a default printer, because it says i cant because im not root
[11:39] <ksz`shrinkyjL[os> do i have to use sudo
[11:39] <ksz`shrinkyjL[os> and how?
[11:42] <icewt> system settings -> printers -> Administrator Mode... | and if the button doesn't work, either kdesu kcontrol or update your system (so the button will be fixed)
[11:45] <ksz`shrinkyjL[os> icewt thanks
[11:47] <[t0rc] > when I start up kubuntu, it goes to a command line login screen (no gui). how do I fix that? I tried logging in, then sudo, then kdm and got nothin...
[11:50] <[t0rc] > any help or suggestions?
[11:51] <zer0time> hi
[11:51] <zer0time> How can i reconfigure kubuntu clock?
[11:51] <zer0time> it changes clock settings in my bios
[11:52] <manveru> that is ntpd doing (afaik)
[11:52] <zer0time> well, how can I change it
[11:53] <manveru> i just gave you a precious piece of information to google for it :)
[11:53] <manveru> i don't know how to change it
[11:53] <manveru> and i wouldn't want to change it, because it keeps my bios-clock synched
[11:53] <zer0time> i only need to know
[11:54] <zer0time> what pakage I have to reconfigure
[11:54] <manveru> i don't think you can reconfigure it with apt
[11:54] <manveru> the package should be ntpd
[11:54] <zer0time> dpkg,
[11:55] <manveru> whatever...
[11:55] <zer0time> that package is not installed
[11:55] <dennis_p> zer0time: k menu > system prefs > date and time > disable ntp service
[11:56] <manveru> kde has it's own ntp-service?
[11:57] <dennis_p> well 'set date and timne automatically' (via kubuntu paid server)
[11:57] <zer0time> dont see option
[11:58] <dennis_p> uncheck 'set date and time automatically'
[11:58] <dennis_p> first click 'Administrator Mode' in Date and Time
[11:59] <LjL> zer0time: out of curiosity, why do you want to remove time updating? it's there to make your clock more precise
[12:00] <zer0time> not remove it, I just dont want it to change my bios clock settings
[12:00] <dennis_p> probably because his WIndows reads the UTC time as being local time
[12:00] <zer0time> for some reason, I misconfigured it
[12:00] <LjL> dennis_p: actually, i've experienced more the opposite... linux tries to keep the hw clock as UTC, while windows wants local
[12:00] <LjL> dennis_p: but that gets asked during Ubuntu installation, i think
[12:01] <zer0time> exactly,
[12:01] <zer0time> what package is that?
[12:01] <manveru> yeah, linux sets it to UTC to get the local time for every user on the system right
[12:01] <manveru> and windows suggests that there is only one user anyway...
[12:01] <LjL> zer0time: ok, so what you'd like to do is change that setting you got wrong during installation, *not* actually stop ntpd, right?