[00:00] <nicomachus> orobogenius: how did you add the repo?
[00:00] <smacktalk> dolphin sucks!  can't see my jump drive
[00:00] <egemen> hello
[00:02] <bet0x> Hello all, i'm triying to get a Signal King 10TN to work (is a USB Wifi antena) is a RT3070 using the RT2800usb doesn't work and i get a lot of weird errors. I found a driver wich compiles under x64 and works still i have the same issue.
[00:07] <DirtyCajn2> whats the command to see a TTY when ubuntu boots blackscrreen again?
[00:08] <nicomachus> DirtyCajn2: Ctrl+Alt+F1-9
[00:09] <bet0x> here is the log http://pastebin.com/raw/LNqJEnba of my wifi usb
[00:09] <bet0x> keeps spamming that error
[00:32] <Sebastien> How would i "sudo" with WinSCP? for file transfer from my pc to my account
[00:32] <Sebastien> ---> http://i.imgur.com/KJfKLMZ.png
[00:35] <nicomachus> Sebastien: for GUI programs, use "gksu"
[00:36] <Sebastien> nicomachus, this still does not tell me how to do it...
[00:36] <nicomachus> Sebastien: open WinSCP from a terminal by typing "gksu winscp", or however else you would open it.
[00:37] <Sebastien> nicomachus, i double click on the winscp icon on my desktop...
[00:37] <nicomachus> Sebastien: well you're going to have to open it from a terminal.
[00:38] <Sebastien> nicomachus, you can't do this on windows
[00:38] <nicomachus> Sebastien: if you're on windows why are you asking in #ubuntu?
[00:38] <Sebastien> i think i forgot to say that. My pc is running windows. but winscp is used to connect to mu ubuntu box
[00:38] <nicomachus> that's a pretty crucial bit to forget
[00:39] <Sebastien> i know im on ubuntu and not windows lol. i just know that a lot of people in here do use programs like winscp
[00:39] <Sebastien> i suggest it in here all the time
[00:39] <nicomachus> well it's not supported here. perhaps ##windows can help you get the permissions right.
[00:40] <Sebastien> the permission issue happens on the server itself
[00:40] <Sebastien> not on my os
[00:40] <Sebastien> this is why im here
[00:45] <slidinghorn> aaaaaaaaaaaassws: fix your connection...
[01:00] <bet0x> well
[01:00] <bet0x> lets try linux mint
[01:00] <bet0x> XD
[01:12] <DaveHyral> Sell me on Ubuntu. I refuse to cave to Microsoft's demands of upgrading to 10.
[01:12] <bet0x> DaveHyral, i did go back to windows
[01:12] <TrivialGravitas> Dave: Why not just try it? You can install it to a USB drive.
[01:12] <ObrienDave> 1700 people here to convince you. need i say more?
[01:13] <bet0x> DaveHyral, kinda complicated when you have no support and my drivers and stuff works better :P
[01:13]  * bet0x is happy with windows on desktop
[01:13] <DaveHyral> if that was sarcasm, I didn't get it.
[01:13] <ObrienDave> don't pay attention to the nay-sayer
[01:13] <bet0x> I fight 2 weeks triying to get a USB dongle working on All ubuntu variants, no success
[01:14] <bet0x> plugged it on Windows 10 and worked
[01:14] <ObrienDave> trolls + alcohol = bad manners
[01:14] <rww> If you want to try Ubuntu, stick it on a USB stick and try it. If you need Ubuntu support, ask here. Non-support stuff goes elsewhere, e.g. #ubuntu-offtopic.
[01:14] <DaveHyral> I've only got a handful of beefs with Ubuntu, that being the lack of Video Game Music for Foobar, and from what I keep hearing a dreadful lack of native support for most PC games without the use of WINE.
[01:14] <bet0x> ObrienDave, not trolling, o do use ubuntu on Servers
[01:15] <DaveHyral> ..dammit i meant to say Video Game Music -Plugins-, ala Winamp
[01:15] <ObrienDave> DaveHyral, it's Linux, NOT windoze
[01:15] <bet0x> DaveHyral, you have a lot of options for that, the part wich i hate is the "wine" stuff.
[01:16] <bet0x> DaveHyral, using emulators, the driver support etcetera.
[01:16] <DaveHyral> also could you point me in the direction of the nearest relatively active channel that isn't tech-specific?
[01:16] <ObrienDave> best bet is install VirtualBox then install windows in a VM
[01:17] <DaveHyral> all i'm seeing mostly on /list is tech channels.
[01:17] <rww> #ubuntu-offtopic, ##chat
[01:18] <ObrienDave> #xubuntu-offtopic
[01:27] <SoLux> Happy newyears
[01:27] <SoLux> :3
[01:27] <loveheartjoylove> same
[01:27] <zed_> same 2
[01:27] <SoLux> ( happy newyears is the first thing I ever said here )
[01:28] <loveheartjoylove> how do I increase font size I have a3200 resolution
[01:28] <ObrienDave> in???
[01:28] <loveheartjoylove> system wide
[01:28] <SoLux> in the whole system?
[01:28] <ObrienDave> appearance
[01:28] <SoLux>  ^
[01:28] <loveheartjoylove> Kay
[01:28] <loveheartjoylove> I love you all
[01:29] <ObrienDave> *blushes* thanks
[01:29] <SoLux> Same 2 u :3
[01:29] <nicomachus> loveheartjoylove: you'll need Unity Tweak Tool.
[01:30] <ArneSE> PendriveLinux: yay or nay?
[01:30] <SoLux> Any of you guys got presents yet? :3
[01:31] <nicomachus> !ot | SoLux
[01:31] <ArneSE> I bought myself presents... does that count? ._.
[01:31] <SoLux> yes
[01:31] <SoLux> xD
[01:31] <nicomachus> They're talking about presents in #ubuntu-offtopic.
[01:31] <ObrienDave> ArneSE, it works. along with unetbootin
[01:31] <ArneSE> I got ATtiny85's
[01:31] <SoLux> #ubuntu-offtopic
[01:32] <loveheartjoylove> I got a laptop
[01:32] <SoLux> k how do I join that?
[01:32] <SoLux> ._.
[01:32] <nicomachus> SoLux: /join #ubuntu-offtopic
[01:32] <SoLux> thanks
[01:32] <nicomachus> this channel is ubuntu support only.
[01:32] <ArneSE> ObrienDave, Thanks! I've been using unetbooting but someone said "eew" about it *shrug*
[01:33] <ObrienDave> ArneSE, you always get both sides. depends on your experiences. both have worked for me
[01:34] <ObrienDave> and there's YUMI as well
[01:35] <ArneSE> I'm hoping to install UbuntuMate (or possibly DebianMate) on an old WinXP ASUS eeePC1000HE, couldn't figure out the name of what I had used earlier! It was unetbootin.
[01:36] <ObrienDave> i've had much better luck burning ISO to DVD
[01:37] <ArneSE> I have an ancient version of unetbootin, but I hope it still finds up to date versions.
[01:38] <nicomachus> will a USB not work?
[01:38] <ArneSE> unetbooting has been great for me
[01:38] <ArneSE> -g
[01:39] <ObrienDave> nicomachus, only if the old system supports booting from USB
[01:39] <ArneSE> I have another question: Can I replace..."unity" with "mate" without risking everything?
[01:39] <nicomachus> Yea I was looking at the specs a second ago.
[01:40] <nicomachus> ArneSE: there's a MATE .iso
[01:40] <ObrienDave> ArneSE, yes, you can install the MATE desktop
[01:41] <ArneSE> that's good for my other machine, but I'm asking for this one which is ubuntu 14.something
[01:41] <nicomachus> no disc drive on it, ArneSE?
[01:41] <ObrienDave> ArneSE, i'm on Xubuntu 14.04
[01:42] <ArneSE> The ASUS eeePC has only USB 2.0 drives. This one is a HP with a disc drive, and "regular" Ubuntu
[01:42] <nicomachus> looks like that ASUS *can* boot a USB.
[01:43] <ObrienDave> it's a BIOS setting
[01:43] <ArneSE> A lot of people have installed AROS on the old eeePCs but that's another story. Should be able to run live(?) USBs
[01:43] <nicomachus> yes it should be able to.
[01:45] <ArneSE> I'm hoping that I can pull out the HDD, pop in a SSD, boot from USB, install, then access WinXP files/programs from Ubuntu using Wine
[01:45] <nicomachus> You won't access them using Wine, but you can mount Windows filesystem with Nautilus.
[01:46] <ObrienDave> sounds possible. don't know if the SSD signature will work under that BIOS
[01:48] <Guy1524> hey guys how do I perform audio loopback.  I want to play a mp3 through my microphone
[01:49] <Guy1524> it would be nice if I could play it in a loop
[01:49] <nicomachus> you want to play an mp3 through your microphone?
[01:50] <ObrienDave> that makes no sense
[01:50] <ObrienDave> most likely destroy the mic element
[01:51] <ArneSE> make a 1 song playlist in Rhythmbox?
[01:51] <Guy1524> ya
[01:52] <Guy1524> sorry I had to go for a second, I want to play audio through my microphone because I want to run around in an online game playing the barbie girl song
[01:54] <tambu_> I need someone to laugh at me and mock my stupidity.. I just formated my harddisk instead of my USB disk lost my /home and /opt directory.  I hadn't gotten to the point of backing up yet.. nothing too critical lost just like 4-5 hours work..
[01:55] <nicomachus> worth a complete re-install, I'd say.
[01:55] <Guy1524> this video may help: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ddrPnuvFV6E
[01:56] <tambu_> So question.. when I built this machine yesterday.. I wasn't sure if I should create a SWAP file or not.. its a 16 GB server, and both drives are SSD.. it seems there is a lot of internet stuff saying it's not required.. I figure since I'm gonna rebuild maybe I'd ask here for input?
[01:56] <ObrienDave> swap not needed for 8GB or more
[01:56] <tambu_> Guy1524 thx.. no worries though nothing I haven't lost.. I was just so near "finished" building it :P
[01:57] <tambu_> ObrienDave so no performance benefit to having one?  I... don't know how to go about it. On a mac I'd use time machine or the clone tool.
[01:58] <Temmis_> How do I turn off encryption?
[02:00] <shibboleth> Temmis_, home dir crypt or FDE?
[02:03] <Guy1524> !rules
[02:07] <Terminsu> How do I get my computer to boot from my USB so I can reinstall Linux?
[02:08] <HappyHippie> adjust the bios settings Terminsu
[02:08] <Terminsu> What do I do in the BIOS?
[02:08] <HappyHippie> search for "boot"
[02:08] <HappyHippie> then adjust the boot settings
[02:08] <Terminsu> then boot fom USB?
[02:08] <HappyHippie> ah yeah im not sure
[02:09] <ArneSE> might say something like "boot priority", and you can move things in a list up and down, hard drive, cd, usb, etc
[02:10] <HackerII> loveheartjoylove:  long nics Evangelist nothing, being human in the form of sensible re request may help
[02:11] <ArneSE> you access the bios by holding a key at boot, it varies from computer to computer
[02:11] <HackerII> the room has been taken over by-request, take notice.
[02:19]  * rww looks up
[02:21] <JillyB> anyone have a dell 3147?
[02:22] <JillyB> having some kernel freezes...and at boot I get 30 seconds of purple before I get the splash screen.
[02:22] <JillyB> It's a ssd...should boot super fast.
[02:24] <Ben64> JillyB: can you explain your problem in as much detail as possible
[02:25] <HackerII> be responsible dont like leave
[02:26] <HackerII> ubuntu needs to have it live
[02:26] <JillyB> Ben, I installed a new SSD and installed ubuntu 15.10. When I boot the computer it just have a purple screen for about 30 seconds and then the splash screen that says "Ubuntu" on it shows up.
[02:26] <HackerII> brb
[02:27] <JillyB> All I know is my older laptop with ssd boots in like 10 seconds.Probably not even
[02:33] <deww> Guest41744: why are you spamming via private message?
[02:34] <JillyB> I turned off intel_pstate at boot...so I'll have to see if that fixes freezes
[02:38] <Ben64> JillyB: purple screen for 30 seconds doesn't sound like freezing
[02:38] <PlasmaStar> So many Guests rww
[02:38] <JillyB> No that's a different thing.  The freezing is freezing. I'm doing something and everything stops. I have to power off and back on
[02:39] <duncannz> Ops: Guest92452 is sending PM spam, this is the only channel we are both in
[02:39] <rww> duncannz: we know, working on it
[02:39] <duncannz> alright thanks
[02:40] <rww> (trying to get Drone` to do magic while we're at it, need them around as a test case for a minute)
[02:41] <slidinghorn> wweeeeeeeeeee
[02:41] <rww> !botsnack | Drone`
[02:43] <slidinghorn> ^5 rww
[02:57] <jblair> Happy new year and good evening all
[02:59] <jblair> Does anyone have time to help with a Xorg triple monitor dual video board issue?
[03:00] <TheHackOps> Based on this bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/fglrx-installer/+bug/1493888
[03:00] <TheHackOps> And the fact I have a Radeon 280
[03:00] <TheHackOps> Should I put off upgrades
[03:00] <TheHackOps> to 15.10
[03:02] <TheHackOps> hmm AMD seems like a mess with all their graphics kernel code
[03:02] <TheHackOps> Might go an get my self a High end nVidia card
[03:09] <moonman> there are too many niggers in this channel
[03:09] <TheHackOps> Well that was uncalled for
[03:29] <FrankChen> How to fix rt2800usb WiFi in 15.10
[03:29] <tambu_> During the ubuntu 15.10 install if you choose Manual, can you still configure LVM? I see the LVM option if you picked Guided, but I don't when I pick manual.
[03:30] <tinyalpha> hello
[03:30] <FrankChen> Hi
[03:30] <tinyalpha> how ya doing
[03:30] <tinyalpha> is ubuntu a good operating system
[03:31] <cfhowlett> tinyalpha, yes.  download it and test for yourself.
[03:31] <FrankChen> Hmm...hard to tell
[03:31] <tinyalpha> okay right now im using fedora live but im getting a risc supercomputer cheap and i want to run ubuntu on it
[03:32] <cfhowlett> tinyalpha, it is free, you know.  run  a live session from an USB to test.
[03:32] <tinyalpha> okay
[03:32] <tinyalpha> i will download and try
[03:42] <telboon> anyone can help me with aligning desktop icons to a grid?
[03:48] <nicomachus> telboon: right click anywhere on the desktop and then check "keep aligned"
[03:54] <RaptorJesus> https://i.imgur.com/Mu3rJ6E.png
[03:54] <RaptorJesus> HAPPY GNU REAR!!!!!
[03:54] <loveheartjoylove> haha
[03:55] <loveheartjoylove> same
[03:55] <loveheartjoylove> I love you all
[03:56] <TheHackOps> RaptorJesus, How long have you been waiting to be able to say that..
[03:56] <TheHackOps> 364 days..
[04:00] <RaptorJesus> TheHackOps, I just thought of it
[04:00] <RaptorJesus> and threw that pic together in like 10 minutes
[04:11] <Guest94549> m
[04:11] <Guest94549> talking to myself again
[04:12] <Guest94549> i just got xubuntu up and running
[04:37] <pravin> the_ant
[04:38] <pravin> exit
[04:39] <quan> cud
[04:39] <HackerII> sry,    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sxdmw4tJJ1Y
[04:40] <rww> HackerII: stick to Ubuntu support in here.
[04:40] <HackerII> k
[04:40] <rww> offtopic comments ==> #ubuntu-offtopic
[04:41] <jeevan_> hello
[04:41] <jeevan_> anyone free
[04:41] <cfhowlett> !ask | jeevan_
[04:42] <jeevan_> ok
[04:43] <jeevan_> im upgrading openssl from 1.0.1 to 1.0.2e im getting make errors while compiling,   make [1] gcc command not found, im unable to complete installation of openssl
[04:44] <markovh> jeevan_: sudo apt-get install gcc
[04:44] <rww> 1) install build-essential package, 2) why are you doing that?
[04:44] <rww> Ubuntu backports security fixes, if that's the concern
[04:44] <jeevan_> gcc is already there in ubuntu gcc-4.6.3-base
[04:44] <rww> gcc base is not the same as gcc
[04:45] <rww> the build-essential metapackage will grab everything you need to compile stuff.
[04:45] <RNeville> what is the difference between gcc and g++, pls
[04:45] <Ben64> why compiling openssl??
[04:45] <jeevan_> my superior asked me to upgrade openssl
[04:45] <rww> RNeville: g++ is the C++ compiler in the GNU Compiler Collection (gcc)
[04:45] <rww> jeevan_: why?
[04:46] <markovh> RNeville: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/172587/what-is-the-difference-between-g-and-gcc google knows
[04:46] <jeevan_> present OS :ubuntu 12.0.4 has openssl 1.0.1
[04:46] <rww> again, if he's concerned about security issues, ubuntu backports fixes for them so he shouldn't be
[04:46] <rww> (and I can't think of another reason one would want to)
[04:46] <Ben64> rww: trying to find a new cool way to break your system?
[04:46] <boo7> how can i open the "task meneger" if i dont have f[x] keys?
[04:46] <markovh> jeevan_: ++ what rww is saying
[04:46] <jeevan_> i understand i have seen the latest built on was dec 4th 2015
[04:47] <jeevan_> but if i want to upgrade from openssl 1.0.1 in ubuntu precise 12.0.4 how should i do it
[04:47] <RNeville> thx rww and markovh
[04:47] <Ben64> jeevan_: you don't, without an exceptionally good reason
[04:48] <markovh> jeevan_: also, if you REALLY want to go down the path, you can do sudo apt-get build-dep openssl
[04:48] <markovh> which should install all the packages you need to build openssl deb package
[04:48] <jeevan_> ok i will try the command now
[04:49] <jeevan_> even though, the latest backport from ubuntu is upto 1.0.2d
[04:49] <jeevan_> but the latest stable non-vulnerable version is 1.0.2e
[04:49] <rww> The current version in Ubuntu is not vulnerable.
[04:49] <jeevan_> my superior asked me to install 1.0.2e from openssl
[04:49] <rww> We fix security vulnerabilities in whichever versions we're running.
[04:49] <rww> Your superior is an idiot
[04:49] <rww> Also, the end result of installing self-compiled packages on your computer, including updating libraries and breaking API, is not supported in
[04:50] <jeevan_> yes i really think so
[04:50] <rww> Then you should tell him that Ubuntu puts fixes for security issues in its packages and not just blindly follow his instructions.
[04:50] <markovh> once you install from source, package management isn't going to keep it uptodate any more
[04:50] <rww> That is what a competent systems engineer would do.
[04:50] <jeevan_> honestly im newbie working in server support
[04:50] <rww> Also, the end result of installing self-compiled packages on your computer, including updating libraries and breaking API, is not supported in
[04:50] <rww> this channel.
[04:50] <rww> So if you do pointlessly follow his instructions and then encounter issues, we will not help you fix them.
[04:50] <RNeville> any ideas why some web pages scroll down one line at a time when I use the down arrow, and other webpages just go to the bottow of the page?
[04:51] <cfhowlett> or install as per directive and document via written correspondence that you did so under orders and with full diclosure
[04:51] <rww> So, you should instead explain to your boss how security updates work in Ubuntu.

[04:51] <jeevan_> ok ok
[04:51] <markovh> jeevan_: well rww may not help you, others still may out of sympathy :p
[04:51] <rww> markovh: no, self-compiled package breakage is not supported here.
[04:51] <RNeville> using Firefox 43.0 on Ubuntu 14.04
[04:51] <rww> non-ubuntu package breakage = not #ubuntu's problem
[04:52] <markovh> rww: i mean, unless you have op prives and would kick me for helping him in the channel..
[04:52] <jeevan_> im just compiling from the openssl.org has 1.0.2e
[04:52] <jeevan_> im not doing any own stuff
[04:53] <markovh> jeevan_: honestly, it's not the right move but i get that you may not have hte experience or confidence to challenge your boss
[04:53] <rww> markovh: I do, and I would be enforcing channel policy in stopping discussion outside the parameters of this channel.
[04:53] <jeevan_> anyway i understand compiling issues = this is not right channel
[04:54] <Ben64> jeevan_: you should understand that compiling a new version of openssl is not the right way to fix this "problem" you have
[04:54] <jeevan_> ohh
[04:54] <polpiem> hello
[04:54] <jeevan_> what is the rightway ben64
[04:54] <polpiem> how to do i access other linux on my network
[04:54] <rww> using the packages that you already have and telling your boss how security updates work in Ubuntu
[04:54] <rww> as we already said
[04:54] <polpiem> with just the ipaddress
[04:54] <Ben64> jeevan_: exactly what rww said. use openssl that ubuntu provides, as it already patched from issues
[04:55] <jeevan_> ok
[04:55] <polpiem> okay
[04:55] <polpiem> but if i have already install samab and the windows computer are connected and it working fine but the other linux computers can\
[04:55] <jeevan_> so the right way for software management or installation is from repositories ...right ?
[04:56] <Ben64> jeevan_: for ubuntu yes
[04:56] <jeevan_> oh for only ubuntu .. ok  ok
[04:56] <polpiem> jeevan ? i can't find my backbox and the network
[04:57] <cfhowlett> !backbox | polpiem
[04:57] <jeevan_> i have one another question
[04:57] <polpiem> thanks
[04:58] <jeevan_> im have precise 12.04 , can i use repositories of trusty to my preicse sources.list
[04:58] <Ben64> no!
[04:58] <polpiem> if am creating a movie server that all computer on my network can access and watch movies is there any softwear you can recommend to me that i can use on ubantu
[04:59] <cfhowlett> jeevan_, do not mix repos!!  never
[04:59] <jeevan_> why is that
[04:59] <Ben64> because precise isn't trusty
[04:59] <jeevan_> yes both are different both are ubuntu right
[04:59] <rww> jeevan_: because that's not supported and will break things by giving you an install that's half trusty and half precise and all broken
[04:59] <cfhowlett> polpiem, so a home media server??
[04:59] <jeevan_> both are ubuntu and both are 64 bit versions
[04:59] <rww> and they're different versions
[05:00] <rww> and if you're doing this to upgrade openssl
[05:00] <cfhowlett> jeevan_, 2012 parts in a 2014 system
[05:00] <rww> then... see the last two pages of scrollback
[05:00] <jeevan_> im not doing this to do openssl
[05:00] <lic-finance> how are you
[05:00] <polpiem> okay
[05:00] <jeevan_> im just asking generally
[05:00] <rww> okays. in general, we test all of the trusty repository packages to make sure they work with each other. we test all the precise packages to make sure they work with each other,
[05:01] <rww> and we test the trusty packages to make sure they can all (at the same time, as part of an upgrade) be upgraded to precise
[05:01] <regedit> ohai 2016
[05:01] <rww> but mixes of part of one and part of the other aren't tested, are known to cause major issues, and thus aren't supported
[05:01] <polpiem> thanks guys
[05:02] <HackerII> east gm and west gm, https://www.you the disstube.com/watch?v=n4RjJKxsamQ, pardon
[05:02] <jeevan_> ok ok thank you
[05:02] <rww> basically, the reason for this answer (and the previous one incidentally) is that if you stick with in-repository packages for your version, we can figure out issues and fix them. if not, things get very dicey very quick :)
[05:02] <jeevan_> ohh ok
[05:02] <cfhowlett> HackerII, you were told already to STOP posting random videos here.  Now you are just being rude ... and you are /ingored in my channel
[05:02] <polpiem> but is it possible to access my linux server outside my home network? is there is script i can use to do that for free or i will need a private vpn?\
[05:02] <cfhowlett> polpiem, you can ssh to it with proper set up
[05:03] <cfhowlett> or you can vpn
[05:03] <jeevan_> rww you said ubuntu backports the issue of openssl
[05:04] <rww> let's do this another way...
[05:04] <jeevan_> to explain to my boss, shall i say that ubuntu already upgraded libssl libraries to latest version eventhough front end openssl is 1.0.1
[05:04] <rww> this is the package changelog for openssl on precise. it contains a log of every change made to the precise openssl packages: http://changelogs.ubuntu.com/changelogs/pool/main/o/openssl/openssl_1.0.1-4ubuntu5.32/changelog
[05:05] <rww> i would link your boss to that btw ^
[05:05] <jeevan_> i have read it
[05:05] <rww> if you open it and look, you can see that it has a bunch of CVEs in it that are fixed in the openssl packages in precise
[05:05] <jeevan_> cve 3194 is patch on dec4 update of 2015
[05:05] <jeevan_> i have read it
[05:05] <rww> when a new openssl security advisory / version comes out, Ubuntu packages look at it, see which code was fixed, and then do the same fixes in the old version that we have, if the old version is also affected
[05:06] <jeevan_> thank you , i mean technically what are words to explain
[05:06] <rww> i'd pretty much say exactly what i just said :)
[05:06] <jeevan_> i mean where does ubuntu fixes the openssl application
[05:07] <jeevan_> im sorry if im bothering you by my questions
[05:07] <rww> it's fine, just trying to get you all squared away. i've had to deal with bosses like this so i know how it goes
[05:07] <johngilbrough> Been stuck for the last few days with a broken Upstart/sytemd.  All that I want to do is wget 15.10 so I can start over.  wget releases.ubuntu.com/....... does not work.  Any suggestions?
[05:08] <jeevan_> i even showed him the screen shot of built on dec 4 2015
[05:08] <jeevan_> i just dont how to explain
[05:08] <rww> he thinks: old version = vulnerabilities
[05:08] <jeevan_> because i dont know how to ubuntu libraries or linux Operating systems work in depth
[05:08] <locksmith> Whats up.. Oakland in da house.
[05:08] <rww> he wants: new version with new patches = no vulnerabilities
[05:08] <jeevan_> yes yes
[05:08] <locksmith> Oops
[05:08] <rww> the reality: old version with new packages = no vulnerabilities
[05:08] <rww> idk if there's much more we can say, just gotta keep telling him that :\
[05:08] <jeevan_> he thinks old is vulnerable and new is no vulnerabilites
[05:08] <jeevan_> yes yes
[05:09] <rww> okay, well, he's wrong. which i guess is why he isn't doing server admin himself :|
[05:09] <jeevan_> he said
[05:09] <jeevan_> moreover he said to me
[05:09] <jeevan_> not to use
[05:09] <jeevan_> apt-get update or upgrade on live server
[05:09] <jeevan_> on production servers
[05:09] <jeevan_> is it right ? because he says it wil update other packages
[05:10] <jeevan_> he says he wants only update openssl
[05:10] <cfhowlett> jeevan_, he is misinformed.  sudo apt full-upgrade   will upgrade all packages to the latest versions in the repos.
[05:10] <johngilbrough> Is this the right place to bring recovery issues?
[05:10] <cfhowlett> !recovery | johngilbrough
[05:11] <jeevan_> i thought of doing apt-get install --only-upgrade openssl
[05:11] <jeevan_> is it right
[05:11] <rww> jeevan_: no, he's not. there are two repositories in Ubuntu for updates. one is ubuntu-security. packages only get updated in ubuntu-security to backport security fixes (as we've discussed for openssl). you want all of these upgrades, or you have unpatched vulnerabilities [...]
[05:11] <johngilbrough> I've been in recovery mode for days
[05:11] <rww> the other repository is ubuntu-updates. that has minor changes* to fix major issues in packages or add new hardware compatibility
[05:11] <cfhowlett> jeevan_, you might want to ask server questions in #ubunt-server
[05:11] <rww> ubuntu doesn't* upgrade to new major versions in released ubuntu versions, precisely to prevent breakage :)
[05:11] <Ben64> jeevan_: updating packages is good, get all the security updates you can
[05:11] <jeevan_> how can i use only ubuntu-securityr repos when updating
[05:12] <johngilbrough> All's I want is the web address of 15.10 desktop
[05:12] <rww> * there are a handful of packages that get new major versions, but it's stuff like firefox that doesn't matter for a server
[05:12] <rww> johngilbrough: I'll grab it. 32-bit or 64-bit?
[05:13] <johngilbrough> 64 bit - thank you
[05:13] <jeevan_> yes yes cfhowlett he says not all packages only one package
[05:13] <rww> johngilbrough: did you say http://releases.ubuntu.com/vivid/ubuntu-15.04-desktop-amd64.iso didn't work?
[05:13] <rww> (or is that what you're looking for...)
[05:13] <cfhowlett> johngilbrough, http://releases.ubuntu.com/wily/
[05:13] <Ben64> jeevan_: well thats silly, upgrade them all
[05:13] <johngilbrough> I was going for 15.10 and it didnot work
[05:14] <johngilbrough> I'm going to try it again....
[05:14] <jeevan_> so
[05:14] <rww> johngilbrough: oh, sorry. that'd be http://releases.ubuntu.com/wily/ubuntu-15.10-desktop-amd64.iso
[05:15] <rww> johngilbrough: if that doesn't work, let me know and i'll grab a mirror address
[05:15] <jeevan_> apt-get update and upgrade only updates built in packages or libraries  not applications like apache or php or cpanel or proftpd
[05:16] <Ben64> jeevan_: you should be doing apt-get update and apt-get dist-upgrade frequently, as it brings all of your packages up to the current versions, gets you all the bug fixes
[05:16] <jeevan_> ok ok
[05:17] <jeevan_> Good practise is frequently upgrade the OS
[05:17] <rww> update*
[05:17] <jeevan_> update and upgrade the OS
[05:17] <jeevan_> i know this is a noobie question
[05:18] <jeevan_> when i do Update and Upgrade, the apache or other application will not get disturbed
[05:19] <Ben64> jeevan_: it will upgrade every package on the system. if apache is a package it will be upgraded (note that upgrading is good)
[05:19] <jeevan_> im sorry Ben64 when you said Packages to current versions
[05:19] <jeevan_> i was confused
[05:19] <jeevan_> but some people say
[05:19] <chandan> When building the kernel deb package, i added have "linux (4.2.0-22.27+btrfs+blockgroups2) wily; urgency=low" in the topmost line ... yet the packages built don't have "+btrfs+blockgroups2" suffix attached to them
[05:20] <jeevan_> it might disturb the present work, when some application needs specific version onlyy
[05:20] <jeevan_> dependant application needs only specific versions only
[05:20] <chandan> for e.g. ...  "dpkg-deb: building package `linux-headers-4.2.0-22' in `../linux-headers-4.2.0-22_4.2.0-22.27~14.04.1_all.deb'.
[05:20] <Ben64> jeevan_: thats why the versions don't change, but fixes get implemented, as rww said previously
[05:20] <rww> which is why Ubuntu backports security fixes to the current version instead of upgrading to new major versions in released versions of Ubuntu
[05:21] <rww> righto, i'll go back to nethack :P
[05:21] <jeevan_> ohhhh
[05:22] <GmanG> hello
[05:22] <jeevan_> ok  ok ok
[05:22] <GmanG> anyone around?
[05:22] <GmanG> i had to download rtl8192du driver to install and to get wifi working
[05:22] <GmanG> im trying to automate it for the future. it does have a dkms.conf in the source tree
[05:22] <GmanG> what do i do?
[05:22] <johngilbrough> rww; I'm trying: wget http://releases.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-15.10-desktop-amd64iso and it just hands for a while and then says "unable to resolve host addresses []releases.ubuntu.com[] -- any thoughts?
[05:23] <rww> johngilbrough: does ping google.com work?
[05:23] <jeevan_> im really happy you people are helping me Ben64 RWW CfHOWlett
[05:24] <rww> johngilbrough: if not, you don't have working DNS
[05:24] <jeevan_> do you people come regularly
[05:24] <GmanG> please?
[05:25] <johngilbrough> rww - will check
[05:25] <Ben64> jeevan_: the three you listed are regulars here, other people pop in and out, lots of good volunteers to be found in this channel
[05:25] <jeevan_> ohh thats very good to here
[05:26] <jeevan_> i will try to come regularly
[05:26] <jeevan_> before coming here i was really stuck with this problem for 5 days
[05:26] <jeevan_> i read nearly 30 articles
[05:26] <jeevan_> but still i could not find answers that is why i came here
[05:27] <jeevan_> everywhere i go, the article says to compile openssl
[05:27] <jeevan_> that is why i started to compile
[05:27] <Ben64> because you were looking found the answer to the wrong problem
[05:27] <Ben64> looking for*
[05:28] <jeevan_> common thinking you should update ur software to latest version so i was thinking in common way
[05:31] <jeevan_> so
[05:31] <johngilbrough> rww - I thought I had a network - I did all the steps including choosing "network' off the the reovery menu before I choose "root" - and I'm still not able to ping anything - what am I missing?
[05:31] <jeevan_> now
[05:31] <jeevan_> can i update only one package from using specific backport repository of precise ubuntu
[05:32] <rww> johngilbrough: I take it ping google.com doesn't work. how about ping <IP_ADDRESS>
[05:33] <jeevan_> is it possible
[05:33] <jeevan_> ?
[05:33] <johngilbrough> pinging four eights give me "Destination Host Unreachable"
[05:34] <rww> not DNS then, general networking trouble. hrm.
[05:34] <jeevan_> another question
[05:34] <jeevan_> can a person use PPA in production servers
[05:35] <jeevan_> does anyone use like that, is it recommended
[05:35] <johngilbrough> pringing 4 zeros, on the other hand, give a nice echo.
[05:36] <johngilbrough> rww - any thoughts?
[05:41] <jeevan_> can a person use PPA in production servers
[05:41] <jeevan_> does anyone use like that, is it recommended using for production servers
[05:46] <johngilbrough> rww:  Ok - that's weird - I remembered to do a "function F11" to turn my networking on.  The difference that it made was that I get an immedidate "unknown host ibm.com" response.  I've got two other devices on my network and they're working fine.  What's happening?
[05:46] <rww> johngilbrough: is pinging <IP_ADDRESS> still not working?
[05:46] <johngilbrough> rww - no, it is still fine.'
[05:47] <johngilbrough> Did you mean four 8s or four 0s?
[05:47] <johngilbrough> Because 4 zeros works but 4 8s dont.
[05:48] <rww> four 8's
[05:48] <rww> wireless or wired connection?
[05:50] <johngilbrough> rww: Four eights - gives "connect: Network is unreachable" - I've never heard of using "<IP_ADDRESS>" before - what is it?
[05:50] <rww> johngilbrough: some Google DNS server, it fits the criteria of "easy IP address" and "responds to pings"
[05:50] <rww> <IP_ADDRESS> is just gonna test that loopback works, which it will 99% of the time
[05:51] <CholbyShill> hi
[05:51] <CholbyShill> can i put ubunut on my coffee maker
[05:51] <CholbyShill> i mean ubuntu
[05:51] <rww> CholbyShill: no trolling here.
[05:53] <johngilbrough> rww - so any thoughts on how to get a laptop in ubuntu recovery back on the internet?
[05:54] <rww> johngilbrough: wireless or wired?
[05:54] <johngilbrough> rww: wireless laptop
[05:57] <rww> johngilbrough: probably want to use nmcli then, if it's installed
[05:57]  * rww looks up syntax
[05:57] <johngilbrough> rww - what is it?
[05:58] <rww> the NetworkManager commandline interface
[05:58] <johngilbrough> rww - never mind, I'm reading the man page
[05:59] <rww> probably something like nmcli con up id ssidhere
[05:59] <rww> i don't have it installed anywhere handy though (my network uses static addressing so i don't need it), so I can't check
[06:01] <tambu> Happy New Year folks, from Central/US :)
[06:02] <jeevan_> ben64 r u there
[06:03] <jeevan_> cfhowlett r u there
[06:08] <telboon> anyone can help me with aligning desktop icons to a grid vertically and horizontally?
[06:08] <jeevan_> sorry telboon i use server OS of ubuntu, no idea about desktop side
[06:09] <johngilbrough>  rww: I'm going to be studying this nmcli business.  Thank you.
[06:09] <harishkrupo> telboon, right click on the desktop
[06:09] <telboon> no prob. thanks jeevan_
[06:10] <telboon> harishkrupo: keep aligned only align it vertically, not horizontally
[06:12] <telboon> Example --> http://imgur.com/hqpQHaA  (Icons are only aligned vertically)
[06:15] <jeevan_> hi rwww
[06:15] <jeevan_> rww
[06:15] <jeevan_> can a person use PPA in production servers ;; does anyone use like that, is it recommended
[06:16] <Pici> jeevan_: theres nothing technically stopping you.  You need to make your own decision about whether you trust the PPA or not though.
[06:18] <jeevan_> ok
[06:18] <jeevan_> does ubuntu have official PPA
[06:18] <jeevan_> ubuntu doesnt have right ?
[06:18] <uju_> dd
[06:18] <Pici> jeevan_: er, no that would be Ubuntu itself.
[06:20] <jeevan_> my understanding : In general PPA means some people take source code repackage into .deb file
[06:20] <jeevan_> is it right pici
[06:21] <red_dole> et
[06:27] <Dylan____>  Hey guys im having trouble here
[06:28] <Dylan____> My update manager is downloading updates
[06:28] <Dylan____> But its frozen and i cant move th mouse etc
[06:28] <Dylan____> Whats the safest thing i should do?
[06:29] <Dylan____> ?
[06:42] <cage_raphel> Happy new year folks!! :)
[06:43] <ilhami> imagine if there were no time zones.. then we wouldn't live in the future :)
[06:44] <ilhami> ooops wrong channel
[06:44] <cage_raphel> ha ha ha.. well said ilhami
[06:44] <cage_raphel> ilhami, wich earth was flat as a screen .. so that we dont have time zones at all!! lol!! :D
[06:44] <cage_raphel> wish*
[06:50] <arkmonkey> arg
[06:50] <ilhami> v
[06:59] <uju> ddd
[06:59] <uju> dddd
[07:00] <uju> ddd
[07:00] <uju> ddd
[07:02] <rww> uju: something we can help with?
[07:03] <uju> yes
[07:03] <ilhami> what?
[07:04] <uju> ;lkj;lj
[07:04] <uju> lk
[07:04] <uju> klk k
[07:04] <uju> kkkk
[07:05] <ilhami> stop spamming dude
[07:06] <uju> Hi
[07:06] <ilhami> hi
[07:26] <Dylan____> How do i install the latest version of nvidia drivers my card is a nvidia  320m
[07:27] <Yato> Dylan____, go into your Settings, Additional Drivers
[07:27] <Yato> And pick nVidia
[07:28] <Dylan____> Yes but im not sure if there up to date
[07:29] <Dylan____> If i look on the nvidia website and search my model of thr graphics card
[07:29] <Dylan____> It says some stuff about it
[07:29] <Dylan____> Do i install that one?
[07:35] <ilhami> Dylan____, he just told you what to do :)
[07:35] <Yato> Dylan____, yeah, install the one from the additional drivers
[07:35] <Dylan____> But its configuired by using xorg
[07:36] <Yato> yeah.
[07:36] <Yato> After you install run:
[07:36] <Yato> sudo nvidia-xconfig
[07:36] <Dylan____> Ok
[07:36] <Dylan____> It was unable to locate
[07:37] <Dylan____> and it made a new config file
[07:37] <Dylan____> Do i redo command
[07:37] <Yato> nope.
[07:37] <Yato> You're good.
[07:37] <Dylan____> Ok
[07:37] <Yato> Now reboot
[07:37] <Yato> and cross your fingers
[07:37] <Dylan____> Ok
[07:38] <ilhami> don't cross your fingers.  I need to go :(
[07:42] <ilhami> I am afraid I am not as qualified. :) but I can try.
[07:43] <Dylan____> Ok thanks
[07:46] <ilhami> so what's up Dylan____ ?
[07:47] <Dylan____> Well i had to mount my disk as read and write
[07:47] <Dylan____> And i just deleted the xorg file
[07:47] <Dylan____> So im booting into ubuntu see if i get a black screen
[07:48] <ilhami> hmm
[07:48] <Dylan____> Got black screen again
[07:49] <ilhami> can you ctrl + alt + f2? :)
[07:50] <Dylan____> Im rebooting into the recovery console again
[07:50] <akik> !nomodeset
[07:51] <Dylan____> Ok well im im the root shell prompt
[07:51] <Dylan____> Now how i fix this black screen eh
[07:51] <ilhami> which version of Ubuntu? 14.04?
[07:52] <Dylan____> Yeah
[07:52] <Dylan____> Its running on my mac
[07:52] <Dylan____> Book 2010
[07:53] <ilhami> http://askubuntu.com/questions/450046/black-screen-with-nvidia-drivers-on-ubuntu
[07:53] <ilhami> try to follow this ?
[07:53] <Dylan____> Ok
[07:56] <Norbin> Need some assistance getting my sound to work, running 14.04 LTS, lspci does shows the following: http://pastebin.com/Wg8SjUqj - i have a gtx 970 and an onboard intel sound card that i'd like to use... right now i am getting no sound at all, audipulse volume mixer shows "hdmi unplugged" as my output and i can't choose anything else
[07:57] <Dylan____> I did that
[07:57] <Dylan____> And im reinstalling the nvidia-current
[07:57] <Dylan____> Then im going to reboot
[07:58] <ilhami> brb
[07:58] <v_> the best linux distro.
[07:59] <v_> happy new year
[07:59] <Norbin> i tried the basic official sound troubleshooting page, nothing helped there
[07:59] <Norbin> happy new year !
[07:59] <v_> ^_^
[07:59] <Dylan____> Ithink i fixed this hopefully
[08:00] <Dylan____> Omg
[08:00] <Dylan____> Nooo black screen!
[08:00] <Norbin> nomodeset does wonders : )
[08:01] <Dylan____> Well i did purge the nvidia think
[08:01] <Dylan____> Then reinstall nvidia -current
[08:01] <Dylan____> Then sudo reboot
[08:01] <Dylan____> And got a black screen
[08:04] <ilhami> Dylan____, you still have problems?
[08:05] <Dylan____> Yeah
[08:05] <ilhami> did you purge nvidia?
[08:05] <Dylan____> Yes
[08:05] <Dylan____> And then installrd nvidia-current
[08:05] <Dylan____> Nothing happened
[08:05] <ilhami> which graphics card do you have?
[08:05] <Dylan____> 320m
[08:08] <ilhami> try booting in nomodeset and install a different driver from additional drivers
[08:10] <Dylan____> Practically have no drivers anymore
[08:10] <Dylan____> Sigh
[08:10] <Dylan____> I have no idea what im doing honestly
[08:10] <Dylan____> Im stuffed it up looks like im going to have to reinstall it from scratch
[08:11] <ilhami> you can also install from the terminal :D
[08:11] <Dylan____> But i dont know what im done wrong
[08:11] <ilhami> sudo apt-get purge 'nvidia*'
[08:12] <ilhami> sudo apt-get install nvidia-prime nvidia-331 nvidia-331-updates
[08:12] <ilhami> which driver did you install last time?
[08:12] <ilhami> which version?
[08:12] <Dylan____> I did nomodeset
[08:12] <Dylan____> And it booted into ubuntu
[08:12] <Dylan____> Now what do i do
[08:13] <ilhami> which driver did you install last time?
[08:13] <Dylan____> Idk
[08:13] <ilhami> lol
[08:13] <ilhami> try open a terminal and
[08:13] <ilhami> sudo apt-get purge 'nvidia*'
[08:13] <ilhami> sudo apt-get install nvidia-prime nvidia-331 nvidia-331-updates
[08:13] <Dylan____> Hold onn
[08:13] <Dylan____> Im searching for availbe drivers first
[08:13] <ilhami> or wait.. do you have only one graphics card?
[08:13] <Dylan____> And it comes up
[08:14] <Dylan____> It says its using the x.orgx server
[08:14] <MembaCo> Ubuntu-Turkish
[08:14] <ilhami> which possibilies are there?
[08:14] <VFDPrim> have a bad issue with computer and i might have made it worse
[08:14] <ilhami> possibilities*
[08:14] <iresf> hi everyone
[08:14] <Dylan____> Theres 2 binary drivers and two legscys
[08:14] <Dylan____> But its currently using the xorg
[08:14] <ilhami> which versions Dylan____ ?
[08:14] <iresf> android-studio works on ubuntu correctly but it does not work on debian 8   please help me
[08:15] <ilhami> which versions does it list Dylan____ ? :D
[08:15] <Dylan____> Version 340.96 first binary legacy 1 304.131 all these from nvidia 304  second binary using 340.96 and second legacy is using 304.131
[08:16] <VFDPrim> comuter was running fine untill about 10 mins ago when it got supper slow and started to make a tick sound and so i waiting and nothing happend but the cpu went up to 85% and still nothing happend so i manual shut down let it sit for 30 seconds till it was all the way off
[08:16] <Dylan____> So all of those are from nvidia-340-updates
[08:16] <ilhami> try select 340.96
[08:16] <Dylan____> Which one
[08:16] <ilhami> binary
[08:16] <Dylan____> Ok
[08:17] <ilhami> and click apply
[08:17] <ilhami> and restart without nomodeset
[08:17] <Dylan____> Legacy?
[08:17] <ilhami> no binary
[08:17] <Dylan____> Ok
[08:17] <VFDPrim> now im getting this message and need to know what to do (error: attempt to reead or write outside of disk "hd0". entering rescue mode... grub rescue)
[08:17] <Dylan____> Im restarting
[08:18] <ilhami> VFDPrim, http://askubuntu.com/questions/397485/what-to-do-when-i-get-an-attempt-to-read-or-write-outside-of-disk-hd0-error
[08:18] <Dylan____> Okmit boot d
[08:18] <VFDPrim> thanks
[08:18] <Dylan____> It booted on that driver
[08:19] <Dylan____> Did i fix the problem ?
[08:19] <ilhami> Dylan____, it worked? did you remove nomodeset?
[08:19] <ilhami> :D
[08:19] <Dylan____> Idk
[08:19] <Dylan____> I just booted without doing snything
[08:19] <Dylan____> I can check if you want
[08:19] <ilhami> ya
[08:19] <Dylan____> Ill reboot into recovery
[08:21] <ilhami> lshw -c video
[08:21] <ilhami> try this command :D
[08:22] <Dylan____> Having trouble getting into recovery mode
[08:22] <Dylan____> Timing the shift key wrong haha
[08:23] <ilhami> haa
[08:23] <ilhami> iresf, what's wrong?
[08:24] <iresf> ilhami : gradle can not compile code and does not finish
[08:24] <Dylan____> Ok
[08:25] <Dylan____> I got into recovery mode haha
[08:25] <Dylan____> I presse the ubuntu with linux no recovry
[08:26] <Dylan____> Recovery has nomode set
[08:26] <Dylan____> But the linux with no recovery doesnt
[08:26] <Dylan____> Now what
[08:26] <ilhami> fine :D then it works right?
[08:26] <VFDPrim> i am fallowing those directions but it keeps telling me that  its missing ) symbol witch it is not
[08:26] <Dylan____> Well do i remove the nomodeset off the recovery
[08:26] <ilhami> I guess you don't have to?
[08:26] <Dylan____> Hmm ok
[08:27] <Dylan____> Ill leave it on there
[08:27] <Dylan____> Let me boot into the ubuntu with no recovery
[08:27] <VFDPrim> 'and it told me that hd0 was a unkown filesystem
[08:27] <ilhami> what output did ls give you VFDPrim ?
[08:28] <Dylan____> Arrgh
[08:28] <Dylan____> Iihami
[08:28] <Dylan____> It came up with the system
[08:28] <Dylan____> Is running in low graphics mode
[08:28] <Dylan____> Do i switch it back to the noveau
[08:29] <VFDPrim> hd0)hd0 ,msdos5) hd0 , msdos3 ) hd0 ,msdos 1
[08:30] <ilhami> Dylan____, you could try the 304 one as well
[08:31] <Dylan____> Ok
[08:31] <Dylan____> Hmm i cant see my mouse
[08:31] <Dylan____> And im still in the low graphics thing
[08:31] <cisc> does Ubuntu server have an option for shell only install?
[08:32] <ilhami> VFDPrim, you have 3 partitions?
[08:33] <VFDPrim> i thought i only had two one for the system and then one that actualy has all my stuff on it
[08:33] <ilhami> and what about swap?
[08:33] <ilhami> :D
[08:33] <VFDPrim> but i guess the swap would be the third
[08:34] <VFDPrim> so yes i do
[08:34] <ilhami> you have a live disk?
[08:34] <VFDPrim> yes
[08:35] <ilhami> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[08:35] <ilhami> get this tool. I think it will fix your boot :)
[08:35] <VFDPrim> ill take a look
[08:36] <Dylan____> Im put in nomodeset on ubuntu no recovery
[08:36] <Dylan____> Going to switch to the xorg
[08:36] <Dylan____> See if that helps
[08:36] <ilhami> hmm...
[08:37] <ilhami> too bad the drivers don't work.
[08:37] <ilhami> did you remember to purge the old driver when you applied that 340?
[08:37] <Dylan____> Not sure
[08:37] <Dylan____> Tells me now im using the xorg x server
[08:37] <Dylan____> Instesd of that binary driver
[08:37] <ilhami> remember to reboot
[08:37] <Dylan____> Comes up with system problem detected
[08:38] <Dylan____> Problem is /use/bin/Xorg
[08:38] <Dylan____> Its a crash problem
[08:38] <ilhami> remove old xorg file please
[08:38] <Dylan____> How i do
[08:38] <ilhami> a new one should be created automatically
[08:39] <Dylan____> How?
[08:39] <ilhami> sudo rm /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[08:39] <Dylan____> I'm k
[08:39] <Dylan____> Ok
[08:39] <Dylan____> Cannot remove
[08:39] <Dylan____> No such file or directory
[08:40] <VFDPrim> ilhami:that boot disk is just to get me into ubuntu and it will fix what ever is wrong on the par that has the grub on it on the computer without downloading the repair program onto the thumbdrive and restarting it from there is that correct? sorry if that made no sence
[08:41] <ilhami> Dylan____, hmm maybe you don't have one.
[08:41] <Dylan____> How can i create one?
[08:41] <ilhami> X -configure
[08:41] <Dylan____> Ok
[08:41] <ilhami> boot into recovery mode
[08:41] <ilhami> first
[08:42] <Dylan____> Accidently put my laptop lid down
[08:42] <Dylan____> And it has blinking cursor
[08:43] <ilhami> VFDPrim, yeah it will just fix your grub
[08:44] <VFDPrim> ok going to try it
[08:44] <VFDPrim> glad i got this back up computer lol aka my media center
[08:45] <Dylan____> Omg
[08:45] <Dylan____> This shift key timing thing
[08:45] <Dylan____> So hard on a mac
[08:45] <Dylan____> Finally
[08:45] <Dylan____> Ok
[08:45] <Dylan____> U said recovery mode
[08:46] <ilhami> lol
[08:46] <Dylan____> Theres no x-configure command
[08:47] <Dylan____> Woops
[08:47] <Dylan____> Typed it wrong haha
[08:47] <Dylan____> Ok i put it in and it has a error
[08:47] <Dylan____> Ee fatal server error
[08:47] <Dylan____> Could mot create lock file
[08:47] <ilhami> try with sudo ? :D
[08:48] <Dylan____> Had to mount the /
[08:48] <Dylan____> Ok it comes up with this stuff
[08:49] <Dylan____> Now wha
[08:49] <Dylan____> Sudo reboot?
[08:49] <ilhami> cp /root/xorg.conf.new /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[08:49] <Dylan____> Ok
[08:49] <Dylan____> Done
[08:49] <Dylan____> Reboot?
[08:50] <ilhami> yeah but not sure if that will fix your problems.. I think you should purge all nvidia drivers and start from scratch with regard to installing the drivers
[08:50] <Dylan____> Hmm ok
[08:50] <Dylan____> If this reboot doesnt eork
[08:50] <Dylan____> Can u help?
[08:51] <Dylan____> Rebooting
[08:51] <VFDPrim> i typed in the first command line off that site and it sent back error: need a single repository as argument
[08:51] <Dylan____> Ahh
[08:51] <Dylan____> Nouveau fault
[08:51] <VFDPrim> and i double checked and its typed out right
[08:51] <Dylan____> Theres a nouveau fault
[08:52] <ilhami> VFDPrim, you sure?
[08:52] <VFDPrim> never mind guess there was no spaces where it looked like there was
[08:52] <VFDPrim> i had spaces between the ppa : yannubuntu
[08:52] <ilhami> oh lol
[08:53] <ilhami> Dylan____, so what's up?
[08:53] <ilhami> you get black screen?
[08:53] <Dylan____> No
[08:53] <Dylan____> I was given a nouveau fault
[08:53] <Dylan____> Prompted low system graphics thingy
[08:54] <prasenjit> hey
[08:54] <ilhami> hey
[08:54] <Dylan____> How do i fix??
[08:54] <prasenjit> Do anyone had a problem with firefox not opening in private browsing in Ubuntu
[08:55] <VFDPrim> so whats making the ticking sound on the comp
[08:55] <ilhami> Dylan____, you have to fix the drivers :)
[08:56] <VFDPrim> not I im a google guy
[08:56] <ilhami> could you purge all nvidia drivers to begin with?
[08:56] <VFDPrim> left fire fox a few years ago now
[08:56] <Dylan____> How do i fix them?
[08:56] <ilhami> what's the sound coming from? VFDPrim ? hdd?
[08:57] <Dylan____> Ill reboot into recovery first
[08:57] <Dylan____> Then tell me what to do
[08:57] <VFDPrim> oh ok it only does it when thinking like right now its scanning
[08:57] <ilhami> how old is the machine? :D
[08:58] <Dylan____> Ok im mounted
[08:58] <Dylan____> What command
[08:58] <ilhami> sudo apt-get purge nvidia*
[08:58] <ilhami> try this
[08:58] <Dylan____> Ok
[08:59] <Dylan____> Wants me to use autoremove to remove 5 things
[08:59] <ilhami> ok do that.
[08:59] <Dylan____> All of the other stuff wasnt installed
[09:01] <ilhami> and then sudo apt-get install nvidia-current
[09:01] <Dylan____> Ok
[09:02] <Dylan____> Says following packages cant be authenciated
[09:02] <Dylan____> Y or n?
[09:03] <ilhami> Y
[09:03] <ilhami> :D
[09:03] <VFDPrim> its always y lol
[09:04] <Dylan____> Ok
[09:04] <Dylan____> Failed to fetch stuff
[09:04] <Dylan____> Wants me to run apt-get upgrade
[09:04] <Dylan____> Or --fix-missing
[09:04] <ilhami> sudo apt-get update
[09:05] <ilhami> and sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[09:05] <Dylan____> Has errors about fetching etc
[09:05] <Dylan____> Arghh
[09:05] <Dylan____> It fails to fetch
[09:05] <m2280> hi
[09:05] <Dylan____> Now im out of luck arnt i
[09:06] <VFDPrim> this is not windows there no such thing as luck
[09:06] <m2280> does any cmd can show which m2 solt my liva core use?
[09:06] <Dylan____> I know
[09:06] <m2280> pcie vs sata
[09:06] <Dylan____> But this thing says err and like failed to fetch
[09:06] <Dylan____> And stuff
[09:06] <Dylan____> How do i fix this
[09:07] <Dylan____> Or im going to have to get my usb and install all over
[09:07] <ilhami> Dylan____, you can't run sudo apt-get update?
[09:07] <m2280> any one know?
[09:07] <Dylan____> I can
[09:07] <VFDPrim> there is this chat thankfully though lol and sadly i dont know how to help yea
[09:07] <Dylan____> But it says stuff about error
[09:07] <Dylan____> And fsiled to fetch all this stuff
[09:07] <ilhami> please post output in a pastebin
[09:08] <Dylan____> Ok
[09:08] <Dylan____> How do i do thst
[09:08] <VFDPrim> you sure its a good boot dick
[09:08] <ilhami> !paste
[09:08] <VFDPrim> disk
[09:08] <fi7ori> so what is this chat guys
[09:08] <Dylan____> I mean the command
[09:08] <Dylan____> To padtebin
[09:08] <Dylan____> In the terminal
[09:08] <ilhami> !pastebinit
[09:09] <m2280> @ubottu
[09:09] <Dylan____> Hmm
[09:09] <Dylan____> I cant install anything
[09:09] <m2280> i get i barebone, no disk
[09:09] <Dylan____> What im going to do is
[09:09] <Dylan____> Get my usb
[09:09] <Dylan____> And restart over
[09:09] <Dylan____> Just installed this fresh as new
[09:09] <m2280> but have a m2 solt
[09:09] <Dylan____> Todsy
[09:09] <Dylan____> And its already played up on me
[09:10] <m2280> Dylan是中国的？
[09:10] <ilhami> Dylan____, hmm
[09:10] <Dylan____> Reinstalling ubuntu
[09:10] <ilhami> fine :D
[09:10] <Dylan____> Haha yeah
[09:11] <Dylan____> Probably best thing to do
[09:11] <Dylan____> Nvm i installed it this afternoon
[09:11] <Dylan____> And
[09:11] <Dylan____> Yeah
[09:11] <Dylan____> What is some things i should do first when installing?
[09:11] <VFDPrim> 311 am on the first day of 2016 and im scanning system mount not what i was hopping to be doing lol
[09:11] <Dylan____> Its 8:11pm here in australia
[09:12] <Dylan____> Haha
[09:12] <VFDPrim> ind its also the 2nd there i do beleive lol
[09:13] <VFDPrim> sweet finaly applying changes
[09:13] <ilhami> Dylan____, remember to update stuff after install if you don't do it during install
[09:13] <ilhami> sudo apt-get update
[09:13] <ilhami> sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[09:14] <VFDPrim> unless you dont want 16.4 yet
[09:14] <m2280> any one know m2 ssd?
[09:14] <VFDPrim> i cant upgrade till amd gets there junk right with it so i might be able to oh i dono when 19.4 comes out lol
[09:15] <ilhami> 16.04 will be released in April
[09:15] <VFDPrim> nope you try to upgrade right now it directs you to 16.4
[09:15] <VFDPrim> just tried it the other day
[09:16] <ilhami> it's definitely not stable :)
[09:16] <VFDPrim> thats y i declined lol
[09:18] <VFDPrim> my cat just tried to bite my keyboard lol
[09:18] <m2280> any one know m2 ssd?
[09:18] <Dylan____> Ok
[09:19] <VFDPrim> flexnet detected please back up data before operation... is going to wipe my comp
[09:19] <esse> quit
[09:19] <esse> exit
[09:19] <Dylan____> Haha
[09:19] <m2280> ubotto
[09:19] <wkts> m2280, 你是中國人呀
[09:19] <m2280> 一眼就看出来了？
[09:19] <esse> Quit
[09:19] <m2280> 你是哪里？
[09:19] <wkts> 我是美國人
[09:19] <wkts> ㄏㄏ
[09:20] <rww> m2280, wkts: English here, please.
[09:20] <esse> how do i quit from irssi ?
[09:20] <rww> For Chinese language discussion, /join #ubuntu-cn
[09:20] <rww> esse: /quit
[09:20] <wkts>  /quit
[09:21] <wkts> Just exchanging pleasantries, rww. Sorry about that.
[09:21] <ilhami> bbl
[09:21] <esse> rww: thanks, new to irc... just checking how it works.
[09:22] <m2280> @wkts @rww
[09:22] <Dylan____> So what tips have you got guys
[09:22] <m2280> i get a barebone
[09:22] <Dylan____> When you first install ubuntu
[09:22] <m2280> ecs liva core
[09:22] <Dylan____> Cause im kinda curious
[09:22] <m2280> cannot decide which solt it using
[09:22] <m2280> pcie or sata
[09:23] <m2280> any command can show this?
[09:23] <m2280> like lshw
[09:23] <ilhami> Dylan____, get all drivers working
[09:23] <ilhami> and make sure you have the latest updates
[09:24] <Dylan____> Hmm ok
[09:24] <Dylan____> So if i wanted to test all drivers
[09:24] <Dylan____> How would i do thst
[09:24] <Dylan____> Just like click on one apply changes etc
[09:24] <Dylan____> Reboot stuff
[09:24] <Dylan____> Cause when i install its alway set to the xorg
[09:25] <m2280> rww
[09:25] <m2280> wkts
[09:25] <Dylan____> Someone do something sbout m2280 please
[09:26] <ilhami> m2280, what do you want?
[09:27] <m2280> m2 ssd only support PCIe on P
[09:27] <VFDPrim> ilhami: not having much luck here
[09:27] <m2280> PCIE on PCIE
[09:27] <m2280> or Sata on Sata
[09:27] <ilhami> ask in #hardware
[09:27] <ilhami> VFDPrim, with?
[09:27] <VFDPrim> ok it opened
[09:28] <Norbin> why do i have /etc/systemd if my init is upstart? compability wise?  this is unclear
[09:28] <m2280> does ubuntu has a cmd to list the info?
[09:28] <m2280> like # lshw
[09:28] <VFDPrim> it said something about 13.4 or something lol i dono
[09:28] <rww> Norbin: which Ubuntu version?
[09:28] <VFDPrim> would you like to see the pastbin
[09:28] <ilhami> Norbin, which version?
[09:29] <ilhami> VFDPrim, what are you doing right now?
[09:29] <Norbin> 14.04
[09:29] <Norbin> lts
[09:29] <ilhami> just because you have systemd doesn't mean it is being used afaik
[09:30] <VFDPrim> now im not doing anything it opened but i it went to the purple screen that gave option to safe open or what ever but i told it to just open ubuntu
[09:30] <Norbin> i guess so, but still would love to know why it's there
[09:30] <Norbin> for what cause
[09:30] <ilhami> !systemd
[09:30] <VFDPrim> then it went to the ubuntu load screen and said it found errors and gave options i pressed f for attemp to fix
[09:30] <rww> Norbin: not sure, would be useful to see what's in it. could be for logind configuration since that's part of systemd but works with upstart on older ubuntu, or could be units installed by packages that were updated for systemd and upstart
[09:31] <VFDPrim> then it went to the first purple screen so i chope open ubuntu again and then it went through bunch of difrent screens and loaded correctly
[09:31] <VFDPrim> ;0
[09:31] <VFDPrim> :)
[09:31] <rww> Norbin: actually, i think the latter would go under /usr/ instead
[09:32] <VFDPrim> ilhami: THANKS
[09:32] <ilhami> np.
[09:32] <VFDPrim> gunna have to put that boot repair on a thumbdrive i think
[09:32] <VFDPrim> not gunna lie kinda afraid to turn off the computer now though lol
[09:32] <Dylan____> Just had to wind my parents windows up omg
[09:32] <Norbin> rww, /etc/systemd has logind configuration file, while /usr/lib/systemd contains ntp.units file with some lines
[09:32] <Dylan____> Its hard never drove a car before
[09:33] <rww> Norbin: makes sense
[09:33] <Norbin> both of these things means nothing to me tho :p i'll read up on them now
[09:33] <rww> Norbin: pre-systemd ubuntu uses systemd-shim, which is a compatibility layer so that logind still works, since it's a requirement for some GNOME stuff
[09:33] <rww> logind does login and seat management, kinda like consolekit if you know what that was (it's deprecated)
[09:34] <rww> /usr/lib/system contains service startup units, they're files that tell systemd how to start particular services (apparently ntp in this case)
[09:34] <rww> i.e. the unit stuff won't do anything on an upstart system
[09:34] <George0k00> Hellow, do you know if this ssd SANDISK SDSSDA-120G-G25 supports trim? Thanks
[09:35] <Jonii> Hello. I somehow started getting "Enter password for cryptswap on device None!" on startup
[09:35] <ilhami> Jonii, is it your machine?
[09:35] <Jonii> Happens only on systemd boot, not if i select upstart. I tried resetting the entire partition
[09:35] <Norbin> rww good stuff, thanks!
[09:35] <Jonii> didn't help :(
[09:35] <Jonii> ilhami: yes
[09:35] <Jonii> why?
[09:36] <Jonii> I mean, cryptswap you can throw any number at all as password, it will be accepted
[09:36] <ilhami> http://askubuntu.com/questions/616663/after-new-ubuntu-15-04-installation-startup-asks-for-password-even-though-no-di
[09:36] <ilhami> it's a known issue according to this
[09:36] <ilhami> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ecryptfs-utils/+bug/1447282
[09:36] <Jonii> ilhami: yes, read all those, none of them seem to help in actually getting rid of the bug
[09:36] <ilhami> did you switch to upstart?
[09:37] <VFDPrim> i was told the login loop was a amd graphix issue
[09:37] <Jonii> I'm considering it
[09:37] <ilhami> VFDPrim, it may be
[09:37] <Jonii> But I've been given impression upstart is what barbarians and savages use
[09:37] <Jonii> Not something for civilized folk
[09:37] <VFDPrim> had that issue with 15.10
[09:37] <Dylan____> Anyone know how to install orace java officalb
[09:38] <Jonii> Also, I'm not entirely sure but I think swap might not be available at all if I use upstart? I'm not 100% sure, I've been booting with so many different configurations now
[09:38] <VFDPrim> ilhami: i did an update looks like there was allot there
[09:38] <Jonii> So instead of upstart, I'm considering just ditching swap partition entirely
[09:39] <VFDPrim> wondering if that has to do with my issue i had even though i just updated here three days ago
[09:39] <ilhami> Dylan____, yes you want version 8 right?
[09:39] <ilhami> 1.8
[09:39] <ilhami> sudo add-apt-repository ppa:webupd8team/java
[09:39] <Dylan____> The current version
[09:39] <Dylan____> I think is 8
[09:39] <ilhami> sudo apt-get update
[09:39] <ilhami> sudo apt-get install oracle-java8-installer
[09:39] <Dylan____> Ok
[09:39] <Dylan____> Thanks
[09:39] <ilhami> run those commands
[09:40] <Dylan____> Ok
[09:40] <Jonii> But yeah, I wanted to have human opinions about this before I do anything drastic. Removing swap entirely, switching to upstart, or following some of the more exotic advice on those google results that I can't quite understand what they are supposed to be doing
[09:40] <VFDPrim> and on that note im off to bed
[09:40] <Dylan____> Just connecting to wifi before i do anything
[09:40] <Dylan____> Gotta update and install the updates
[09:40] <Dylan____> Etc
[09:40] <VFDPrim> thanks again ilhami:
[09:40] <ilhami> VFDPrim, don't worry mate
[09:41] <VFDPrim> happy new year and good night or day to you all
[09:41] <ilhami> night
[09:41] <Jonii> What I have done is that I wrote 10mb worth of zeroes to the start of swap partition in case there was some residual file system thing there that confused systemd. Systemd didn't boot. So I fixed it by actually making that partition into linux swap. Still asked for password :(
[09:42] <George0k00> do you know if this ssd SANDISK SDSSDA-120G-G25 supports trim?
[09:43] <Jonii> I've been keeping /etc/crypttab up to date with uuid, but fstab i haven't
[09:44] <Jonii> Some google results seem to imply I could get rid of this problem by commenting out lines which start with "cryptswap1", but...
[09:44] <ilhami> wait for some experts to come in here and help you Jonii :D
[09:44] <Jonii> ...dunno, I don't know what that would actually do
[09:45] <ilhami> neither do I :D
[09:45] <Jonii> I mean, every supposed fix seems to more or less be equivalent of "just disable swap altogether". I don't know if swap is really required
[09:45] <ilhami> wait for the bug to be fixed.
[09:45] <ilhami> is it really that big of a problem? hehe
[09:47] <jay_> chatroom regarding ubuntu servers
[09:47] <ilhami> jay_, there is a channel dedicated to ubuntu servers
[09:47] <ilhami> #ubuntu-server
[09:48] <jay_> thank you ilhami
[09:49] <Dylan____> Hey guys for a desktop install of ubuntu
[09:49] <Dylan____> How much should the swap be?
[09:49] <Dylan____> Cause isnt 60 high
[09:50] <Jonii> oh, suspend function requires swap?
[09:59] <ilhami> Dylan____, http://askubuntu.com/questions/62073/how-to-decide-on-swap-size
[10:00] <ilhami> you don't want too much.
[10:00] <ilhami> 2GB should be fine I guess.
[10:02] <ilhami> or 4GB maybe :D
[10:02] <Dylan____>  Well
[10:02] <Dylan____> I got 4gig of ram
[10:02] <Dylan____> And i set the swappiness to ten
[10:03] <ilhami> my SWAP is set to 4,2GB
[10:04] <Dylan____> Mine is 4 i think
[10:05] <Jonii> Uh...
[10:05] <Jonii> So, I checked
[10:06] <Jonii> On my tabletop computer how much swap I have. "0 kb"
[10:06] <Jonii> That's peculiar? So I checked my partitioning... I have 4 separate swap partitions, none of them are in use?
[10:06] <Jonii> No idea when this has happened :3
[10:06] <Dylan____> Hmm
[10:07] <Jonii> I tinkered with this computer a lot throughout the years, but I don't think I have installed os on this computer more than twice or thrice
[10:07] <Jonii> that 4th swap partition really throws a monkey wrench in my attempts to explain wtf is going on
[10:08] <ilhami> :P
[10:10] <jsky> hi guys
[10:16] <ilhami> hi
[10:17] <Dylan____> Anyone here played runescape on linux and knows best settings for a core 2 duo 2.40ghz
[10:21] <Jakey> HAPPYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY FUCKING NEW YEARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR
[10:21] <ilhami> ...
[10:25] <hypermist> how to get the specs/os installed on your device ?
[10:25] <AndChat27729> How does one get rid of their Join/Quit traffic?
[10:25] <hypermist> nevermind
[10:26] <AndChat27729> IRC traffic that is.
[10:26] <ilhami> AndChat27729, which client do you use?
[10:30] <auronandace> ilhami: i'll hazard a guess at andchat (for android)
[10:31] <AndChat27729> ilhami: the client is "AndChat", and thus their default name...
[10:32] <ilhami> how is this an ubuntu related question ? :D
[10:32] <ilhami> and btw  AndChat has been abandoned/is no longer supported by the developer. Sorry.
[10:33] <AndChat27729> I thought I was posting this questin on the #andchat channel
[10:34] <AndChat27729> Good to know ilhami  - thank you.
[10:34] <ilhami> np
[10:42] <TheEagerPadawan> hi people, i'm having issues to reply and +1 on messages on google+. I already tried different browsers (FF, Chromium, Midori) even tried another dns. The issue remains.
[10:44] <Ben64> sounds like an internet/networking issue TheEagerPadawan
[10:45] <TheEagerPadawan> the weird things is that i can reply on post by using the notification emails and share things by users plus.google.com/share?url=<someurlhere>
[10:48] <Norbin> wow
[10:48] <Norbin> weirdest issue ever :s
[10:49] <TheEagerPadawan> yup, it's indeed weird. Was even thinking it could be a missing packet
[10:49] <HappyHippie> hi users
[10:50]  * rostyk is away: Pracuji
[10:53] <Norbin> TheEagerPadawan: I am not entirely sure how google plus works but it's likely using some sort of POST, try to take actions with chrome's developer tab open, see if it brings anything
[10:54] <TheEagerPadawan> Norbin: let me reinstall chromium then
[10:54] <Norbin> I am trying it myself now I will tell you if I find anything useful
[11:00] <TheEagerPadawan> Norbin: it's that goog has fubared it , getting all kinds of 404's
[11:00] <TheEagerPadawan> so basically what happening for is that my +1's get redirected to a 404 lol'z
[11:11] <Xano> How do I type special characters without having to use hex codes? I use a US international keyboard layout and am very much a fan of how Mac OS makes it easy to type characters like "ï" (alt + modifier + base letter). Is there an equivalent for Ubuntu?
[11:32] <Jonii> okay, so, actually, cryptoswap doesn't work on either of my machines
[11:33] <Jonii> I just hadn't noticed it on my other machine...
[11:33] <Jonii> Both of the problems seem somewhat unrelated :/
[11:36] <Jonii> Could i somehow... Reset cryptoswap settings?
[11:37] <Jonii> Like, I run Ubuntu 14.04, so from what I understand, it's broken right out of the box as well, but maybe there are other things broken as well :/
[11:38] <ikonia> Jonii: how is it "broken out of the box" ?
[11:40] <Jonii> ikonia, that's what askubuntu threads seem to suggest, it doesn't work. If you select "encrypt home folder", swap will come out non-functional
[11:40] <Jonii> brb, booting
[11:41] <ikonia> Jonii: many many people have it working out of the box
[11:44] <Jonii> Dunno then. Some people don't get it working even on fresh install
[11:44] <Jonii> I can get non-encrypted swap, but can't get it encrypted
[11:46] <ikonia> Jonii: ask your self really "do you need encypted swap"
[11:46] <ikonia> seriously- before wasting time trying to work out what's broken for you, what's not, whats a genuine bug, what's a problem you're having, really "do you need encypted swap"
[11:46] <ikonia> that question will probably save you a whole lot of effort
[11:48] <Jonii> ikonia: I probably don't need it, but still, it's something that's obviously broken in my system for unknown reasons
[11:48] <Jonii> And if somethings broken, I'd want to either fix it or at least have very very good understanding of what went wrong
[11:49] <ikonia> right, if you don't need it then, don't make a problem, use the system how you need it
[11:49] <ikonia> why make a problem ?
[11:49] <ikonia> (unless you genuinely do need encypted swap)
[11:49] <Jonii> ikonia: you're not helping, you realize that?
[11:50] <ikonia> I'm helping you get a working system
[11:51] <Jonii> Thus far I've had 4 separate swap partitions turn into broken bloat and I'm unsure if my current swap partition will last over the next computer reboot
[11:51] <ikonia> 4 swap partitions ?
[11:51] <ikonia> just keep it simple and use one
[11:52] <Jonii> That doesn't seem like working system to me. Of course, who needs swap at all?
[11:52] <ikonia> and if you don't need encyption, remove it
[11:52] <ikonia> some people need swap
[11:52] <ikonia> some people don't need it but benifit from it
[11:52] <Dreaman> ikonia i use swap
[11:52] <ikonia> thanks for telling me that
[11:52] <Jonii> I have only used one. The problem is, some process has created multiple swap partitions. I don't know what it is, or when it has happened
[11:52] <Dreaman> your proble is
[11:52] <Dreaman> Partition: ID-1: / size: 30G used: 9.9G (36%) fs: ext4 dev: /dev/sda7
[11:52] <Dreaman>            ID-2: /boot size: 453M used: 97M (23%) fs: ext4 dev: /dev/sda6
[11:52] <Dreaman>            ID-3: swap-1 size: 8.00GB used: 0.00GB (0%) fs: swap dev: /dev/sda5
[11:52] <ikonia> Jonii: delete them, house keep your system
[11:53] <Jonii> ikonia: you're still not helping
[11:53] <ikonia> Dreaman: I don't need to see it, and please don't put long pastes in the channel
[11:53] <ikonia> Jonii: if you pay attention to what I'm saying, you'll see I am
[11:53] <ikonia> you're creating a problem, tidy up
[11:53] <Dreaman> ok
[11:53] <Jonii> You're really not. I'd appreciate if you didn't derail my questions into your philosophical "do you REALLY need computer?"  If you know answer to that question, you already know more than I do
[11:55] <ikonia> you'll do well to simplfy that
[11:55] <ikonia> back track and tidy up
[11:55] <ikonia> I'm assuming you've tried multiple distros rather than multiple ubuntu installs
[11:56] <ikonia> in which case, consoloidate, plan your layout properly and tidy up, then install
[11:56] <Jonii> Why would I install?
[11:56] <ikonia> to get an operating system
[11:56] <Jonii> What would I install?
[11:56] <ikonia> the distro you want to use
[11:56] <Jonii> I already have my distro installed?
[11:57] <ikonia> but you're saying it's not working
[11:57] <Jonii> Yes, and I'd want help with that
[11:57] <Jonii> So can you PLEASE stop derailing this with your meaningless mumbling?
[11:57] <ikonia> ok - so my advice to you, is to clean up the other installs/distros you have, consolidate your swap into an unencypted swap
[11:57] <Dreaman> i use meny years ago 3 distro and win 4 os an swap is one for the distros
[11:57] <Jonii> ikonia: I have no other distros or installs
[11:57] <ikonia> and then re-install or re-configure your current install
[11:57] <bazhang> Jonii, listen then and follow what is being given, one remove the excess swap partitions
[11:57] <ikonia> Jonii: ok - so you have 1 distro installed and 4 swap partitions
[11:58] <ikonia> Jonii: lets tidy up the partitions then and re-configure
[11:58] <Jonii> Yes, that I plan to do, once I understand what went wrong that produced those multiple swap partitions in the first place
[11:59] <ikonia> just bin them
[11:59] <ikonia> and create one you know is "good"
[11:59] <Jonii> ikonia: oh, you're approaching actually answering my question?
[11:59] <ikonia> then you can reconfigure the existing install to use that
[11:59] <ikonia> Jonii: drop the smart mouth please, people are actually helping if you listen
[12:00] <Jonii> Yes, you're getting close. Yes, that's what I asked someone to help me with, how to reset swap partition so it should work
[12:00] <ikonia> I'm not going to help you, your attitude is not acceptable to me
[12:00] <Jonii> Thank you
[12:00] <ikonia> if you wish to continue to use this channel, pull it back in and work with people who are helping you
[12:00] <bazhang> Jonii, drop the attitude for one
[12:01] <bazhang> Jonii, remove the extra swap partitions for the second step
[12:02] <Jonii> bazhang: I don't think I need to hurry with that? I plan to do so, but I'm not in acute need of disk space
[12:02] <bazhang> Jonii, thats the second step, this channel is for support alone, and not musing on how things may or may not have gotten into that wretched state
[12:03] <user1337> hi
[12:03] <user1337> !* UDP
[12:03] <Jonii> Like, I suspect they were produced because my swap partitions kept breaking into unrecognizable mess, and sometime something has tried to access swap or create a new one, so if I just manage to make 1 swap partition that doesn't repeatedly break down, everything is fine
[12:04] <bazhang> Jonii, regardless, remove them and then we can continue
[12:07] <Jonii> Ah, yeah, I actually can't. Would need to use live cd or something, my system partition has higher number than those unknown type partitions
[12:07] <Jonii> Which, according to gparted, prevents me from deleting them
[12:07] <ikonia> you don't need a live cd to delete unused swap partitions
[12:07] <Jonii> gparted tells me otherwise
[12:08] <ikonia> make sure they are not in use
[12:08] <ikonia> that would be the thing that blocks the
[12:08] <ikonia> them
[12:08] <Jonii> "please unmount any logical partitions having a number higher than 5"
[12:08] <ikonia> I suspect they are marked as "unknown" because you tried to encypt them
[12:08] <Jonii> root is /dev/sda7, can't unmount that
[12:09] <ikonia> why would you unmount root ?
[12:09] <Jonii> "please unmount any logical partitions having a number higher than 5"
[12:09] <ikonia> how many physical hard disks do you have in your machine
[12:09] <Jonii> 1 I think?
[12:10] <Jonii> 2 if you count external hd
[12:10] <ikonia> it would help people who are interested in helping you, if you opened a terminal and ran "sudo fdisk -l" and put it into a pastebin for people to see
[12:10] <ikonia> you'd also do well to eject the external HD to remove confusion
[12:10] <Jonii> I might have 3rd hard drive in my computer but I don't think it's connected or mounted or anything
[12:11] <ikonia> run the command I requested and put it into a pastebin, that will tell people are lot more than your guess work
[12:13] <Jonii> http://pastebin.com/BXELZuKb
[12:15] <ikonia> ok - so when someone wants to help you, it's worth showing them that, that will explain a lot more
[12:16] <dynorsau> How can i link my microphone to audio output?
[12:17] <dynorsau> I can see levels on the mic and hear sound originating from the pc but i cant hear the audio originating from the mic
[12:18] <ikonia> wouldn't that depend on the app
[12:18] <ikonia> you need an app to route mic to output
[12:18] <ikonia> eg: if I talk into my mic, I can't hear it, but others can
[12:19] <ikonia> some applications have a pass through mode that allow you to hear your own mic input (normally for testing)
[12:23] <thecha> ikonia no this depends solely on the soundcard drivers
[12:23] <thecha> the settings there are what matters
[12:24] <ikonia> really ?
[12:24] <ikonia> so you can configure that is say alsamixer
[12:24] <thecha> yes
[12:25] <Dreaman> Jonii to meny swap and why solaris
[12:26] <Dreaman> just 1 swap ana men distro to use in hdd
[12:26] <Dreaman> just 1 swap and meny distros use to the system
[12:27] <FrankChen> HTC sensation
[12:27] <ikonia> Dreaman: a swap partition is marked as linux / solaris swap
[12:27] <ikonia> as it's the same device type
[12:28] <Dreaman> but to meny
[12:28] <ikonia> he knows this, he's been told
[12:28] <FrankChen> Can I install 16.04 build??
[12:28] <ikonia> if you want
[12:28] <ikonia>  /join #ubuntu+1 for 16.04 discussion
[12:28] <ikonia> just keep in mind it's pre-release and can be unstable
[12:29] <Jonii> Dreaman: don't know. Those are broken partitions anyway
[12:29] <FrankChen> 14.04 LTS vs 15.10 which is the stable
[12:31] <Dreaman> two is stable
[12:31] <Dreaman> an i use 4.3.3 is stable 15.10 64 bit
[12:31] <Dreaman> kernel 4.3.3
[12:31] <ikonia> FrankChen: both are stable
[12:32] <cuc> Hello. What is the shortcut key to switch between keyboard layouts?
[12:32] <Ben64> FrankChen: 14.04 is supported until April 2019, 15.10 is supported until July 2016
[12:33] <ioria> cuc Super (win) key + space
[12:35] <cuc> It doesn't work...
[12:35] <ioria> cuc Unity ?
[12:36] <FrankChen> Can I let 15.10 to 16.04 lts if one day 16.04lts release
[12:37] <Ben64> FrankChen: your question doesn't make sense, but both 14.04 and 15.10 will upgrade directly to 16.04
[12:38] <cuc> ioria I'm using Ubuntu MATE
[12:38] <FrankChen> Or let 14.10 to 14.04lts
[12:38] <FrankChen> Kubuntu is great too
[12:38] <ramb> I have a thinkpad s440
[12:38] <ramb> but when stutting down it freezes
[12:39] <ramb> i have ubuntu §4
[12:39] <ramb> 14
[12:40] <agent_white> ramb: Check `/var/log/syslog` and `/var/log/kern.log`
[12:50] <ioria> cuc i don't use Mate, but if you go Control Center > Other > Keyboard Shortcuts you should find some infos
[12:54] <cuc> Apparently this option is missing from Keyboard Shortcuts too. Well, I can always switch it by clicking with my mouse... Not as fast as a shortcut, but it still works.
[12:55] <ioria> cuc  try also  Control Center > Hardware > Keyboard > Layouts > Options   , otherwise you could create a custom shortcut (in Unity you can)
[13:19] <BluesKaj> Happy New Year folks
[13:24] <snmp> Hi, can anyone help me out with SNMP?
[13:32] <agent_white> !ask | Hardcore7
[13:34] <ilhami> hey
[13:44] <ahmed> hellooo
[13:44] <Guest7045> hi
[13:47] <Guest7045> it's the first time to be here
[13:49] <ilhami> ok welcome to the channel
[13:50] <Guest7045> what are we doing here i'm new linux user
[13:50] <Guest7045> ??
[13:51] <ilhami> we are doing Ubuntu support.
[13:51] <Guest7045> yes i think that i'm using ubuntu 14.04 lts
[13:52] <Guest7045> but didn't see it befroe
[13:53] <rhagu> Hi I changed grub to hidden, but displaying the grub menu with shift does not work anymore, any idea how I can fix this?
[13:55] <BluesKaj> rhagu:  in /etc/default/grub
[13:55] <ccup> rhagu: have you checked your configuration in: /etc/default/grub
[13:56] <ilhami> rhagu, shift should work
[13:56] <ilhami> otherwise try escape
[13:56] <ilhami> or space
[13:57] <rhagu> I changed some values in /etc/default/grub .. . Is it possible, that Grub Timeout and Grub hidden timeout need to have the same value for shift to work?
[13:57] <ccup> rhagu: try changing these options: GRUB_HIDDEN_TIMEOUT=10
[13:57] <ccup> GRUB_HIDDEN_TIMEOUT_QUIET=false
[13:58] <ccup> and GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT=""
[13:59] <EriC^^> last one is irrelevant ccup rhagu
[13:59] <ccup> well, it should allow him to update-grub and then at least use shift again
[13:59] <ilhami> rhagu, try esc instead of shift dude
[14:00] <rhagu> Ill try that, does it make a difference, whether I use left or right shift?
[14:00] <ccup> rhagu: no
[14:00] <EriC^^> rhagu: try left shift
[14:01] <EriC^^> rhagu: also esc as ilhami said if you're using grub legacy
[14:02] <ilhami> http://askubuntu.com/questions/16042/how-to-get-to-the-grub-menu-at-boot-time
[14:02] <ilhami> some people have written esc worked for them.
[14:02] <Abu_Ali> what's the best mp3 player can  i use with equalizer ?
[14:03] <Guest77973> any girls hear
[14:04] <BluesKaj> !offtopic | Guest77973
[14:05] <Hardcore7> Anyone here with SNMP experience?
[14:05] <ilhami> Guest77973, not the right place to ask.
[14:05] <ccup> Hardcore7: yes
[14:06] <Hardcore7> ccup: The problem I am having is that i'm writing an application to read multiple data variables from printers connected to the network. Take serial numbers als an example
[14:06] <Hardcore7> ccup: It seems that every printer has different MID and IOD numbers
[14:07] <Hardcore7> ccup: how can I solve this in the most proper way?
[14:07] <ccup> Hardcore7: http://kb.paessler.com/en/topic/653-how-do-snmp-mibs-and-oids-work
[14:09] <Hardcore7> ccup: I'm going to read this, one moment
[14:09] <ccup> i have one more: http://www.dpstele.com/snmp/what-does-oid-network-elements1.1_c.php?
[14:09] <rhagu> thanks for your advices, it works now with left shift and both timeouts at 0 :-)
[14:15] <UbuntuUser1234> Good morning :)
[14:17] <UbuntuUser1234> I have a quick question... where are the packages installed by default? or more importantly, where should I install software machine-wide when its not from a package? /opt?
[14:17] <Hardcore7> ccup: ur still there?
[14:18] <Li> I left my ubuntu box turned on and came back later to find it turned off! what the heck was going on?!
[14:18] <ccup> Hardcore7: yes
[14:19] <UbuntuUser1234> Li: just gonna state the obvious here... power outage/drop?
[14:19] <ilhami> Li: what do you mean?
[14:19] <Hardcore7> ccup: small question (while reading), how can I show the labels of the OID numbers when using snmpwalk? I'm using something else to check that right now
[14:19] <dududududu> Hi does anyone have problems with touchpad on ubuntu? mine just simply undetected. it says couldn't find synaptics properties although i already have one installed
[14:19] <Hardcore7> ccup: but I tought, maybe you know the right param
[14:19] <dududududu> mine is ASUS under ubuntu 12.04
[14:20] <Li> UbuntuUser1234: well, this has nothing to do with power the laptop battery is fully charged and we don't have any power supply problems here
[14:21] <ccup> Hardcore7: https://nsrc.org/workshops/ws-files/2011/sanog17/exercises/exercises-snmp-v1-v2c.html
[14:21] <Li> I lost all unsaved gedit documents
[14:21] <Li> I think it's time to kiss gedit goodbye
[14:25] <Hardcore7> ccup: i'm still reading the pages you sent, but the thing i'm stuck on is that different manufacturers use different private OID addresses to save their serialnumber in. I know how to reverse engineer how I can get the manufacturer's ID, because this is saved in the public OID's with the standards
[14:26] <Hardcore7> ccup: But the private numbers don't really seem have something common in my eyes.. do they|
[14:26] <Hardcore7> ccup: ?*
[14:37] <ren0v0> Is there a way of storing thumbnails of images/video that nautilus looks for, for previewing?
[14:40] <ccup> ren0v0: see if you have this directory: ~/.cache/thumbnails
[14:41] <ccup> ren0v0: or ~/.thumbnails
[14:42] <ren0v0> ccup, hmm, its on a NAS
[14:44] <ren0v0> ccup, it seems most are in .cache/thumbnails, but is there a way i could store them on NAS? so generate them manually and nautilus will use them by default?
[14:44] <ccup> ren0v0: access it through Nautilus preferences
[14:44] <ren0v0> ccup, don't see anything related there
[14:44] <ccup> Edit > Preferences > Prewview > Previewable Files > Show Thumbnails > Always
[14:45] <ren0v0> ccup, don't think we are on the same page here
[14:45] <ren0v0> I'm seeing thumbnails fine, thats not what i'm asking
[14:46] <ren0v0> If i have 1000 files in a folder on my NAS, i would like to store thumbs somewhere in that folder, so me or any other user won't need to generate them locally each time we connect
[14:50] <ccup> ren0v0: hmm, what about symlinking them from the NAS to your desired folder?
[14:52] <ccup> ren0v0: this is what you're looking to do correct? http://blog.firszt.eu/index.php?post/2015/09/13/Nautilus%3A-batch-thumbnail-generation-for-remote-location
[14:52] <ren0v0> ccup, na, that would assume my local folder is always connected/mounted etc
[14:54] <ccup> ren0v0: if that's not what you're looking for then I'm not sure whatelse to suggest
[14:54] <SchrodingersScat> yeah, that could be a problem when you're making thumbnails for anything local, or not related to the NAS.
[14:55] <ren0v0> ccup, well thanks for the link, it seems it may "help" with the actual generation in the first place
[14:55] <ren0v0> but the problems are 1) I can never wipe my cache, i suppose not a huge issue but still. 2) will only work for me and not other family members
[14:56] <ren0v0> ccup, i guess what i'm asking is does nautilus not support remote thumbs? so if there was a .thumbs folder in a remote location it wouldn't look for them there or anything?
[14:56] <ren0v0> then i could use this script to pre-generate them all and store remotely
[14:57] <SchrodingersScat> thunar only has an option to not generate thumbs if it's a remote storage, and even this doesn't always work :)
[14:57] <Hardcore7> ccup: are u there?
[14:57] <ccup> ren0v0: https://people.gnome.org/~bmsmith/build/nautilus-preferences.html
[14:57] <ccup> Hardcore7: yes
[14:58] <ccup> sorry in multiple channels
[14:58] <ren0v0> these days remote storage is becoming more and more popular, i'd think it should be something nautilus devs should look at
[14:58] <Hardcore7> ccup: i'm done reading the pages you sent, but the thing i'm stuck on is that different manufacturers use different private OID addresses to save their serialnumber in. I know how to reverse engineer how I can get the manufacturer's ID, because this is saved in the public OID's with the standards
[14:58] <Hardcore7> ccup: But the private numbers don't really seem have something common in my eyes.. do they?
[14:59] <Hardcore7> ccup: company1 uses like <IP_ADDRESS>.<IP_ADDRESS>.2 for SN, while company2 uses like <IP_ADDRESS>.1.1<IP_ADDRESS>.3 for SN as example
[15:00] <Hardcore7> ccup: or would the most forhand solution be hardcode parameters like; if companyID = 1248 then look at the following IOD, else if companyID = 44 then look at that other number?
[15:01] <Hardcore7> ccup: because it should work for +10 manufacturers and I have to fetch ~10 different variables each kind
[15:02] <Hardcore7> OID should start with .<IP_ADDRESS> etc, my bad but the question still stands
[15:04] <SchrodingersScat> ren0v0: this seems closer to what you want, never tried this though, http://specifications.freedesktop.org/thumbnail-spec/thumbnail-spec-latest.html#SHARED
[15:05] <Katronix> Greetings all, is there an alternative to Cheese for image / video capture from a webcam? For some reason the Cheese UI locks after taking an image
[15:06] <cfhowlett> Katronix, vlc can capture from webacm
[15:06] <cfhowlett> webcam
[15:06] <Katronix> okay
[15:07] <SchrodingersScat> ren0v0: this person even made a helpful little script for it, https://github.com/jesjimher/genthumbs
[15:07] <ren0v0> SchrodingersScat, this is exactly right, but it assumes nautilus follows these "standards" right ?
[15:08] <Katronix> Can someone tell me what I'm missing to cause this error? http://pastebin.com/3dNK1NYF
[15:10] <SchrodingersScat> ren0v0: yep, would be dependent on each file browser that you and the other users use checking for a .sh_thumbnails before going to its own local .thumbnails.  Worth a shot, and haven't used that script but it looks nice.  Since they mention it could be used for cd's, ect, makes me think it could be standard.
[15:11] <ren0v0> SchrodingersScat, testing now
[15:15] <Katronix> cfhowlett, any suggestion on what video standard I want to use? I don't see a generic NTSC
[15:16] <ren0v0> SchrodingersScat, doesn't look like nautilus does :(
[15:16] <SchrodingersScat> ren0v0: that's sad, hope you find another way.
[15:17] <ren0v0> SchrodingersScat, very sad, i'd like to know why they don't :)
[15:17] <ren0v0> script worked great too
[15:17] <SchrodingersScat> ren0v0: when I googled nautilus shared thumbnails I just got a bunch of people with general thumbnail problems, but maybe you can investigate and see if there's a way to get it to recognize that :/
[15:28] <odroid> Hello! happy new year!
[15:32] <peder_> Is there a way to create "shortcuts" in the terminal so that I can more quickly go to folders that I use oftne.
[15:32] <tambu> peder_ Sounds like u want symbolk links
[15:33] <tambu> peder_ u should probably read up a little as there are soft/hard links.. though 9/10 u probably want soft links. "ln -s /path/to/complicated/folder /home/tambu/easy
[15:35] <Hardcore7> exit
[15:35] <peder_> tambu, thanks
[15:35] <tambu> peder_ doh.. just realized i typo'd the name.. "symbolic links"
[15:36] <ArneSE> if I preface a terminal command with #, what does that mean?
[15:37] <tambu> well in general it means it's a comment
[15:37] <tambu> ArneSE: u normally wouldn't do that in a terminal.. normally that means you read it don't type it.
[15:38] <zacwalls1> how do I fix E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1) again?
[15:39] <ArneSE> I needed to copy a debian.iso file to /dev/sdb, but the tutorial prefaced cp with # and nothing happened
[15:40] <ArneSE> cp debianbla.iso /dev/sdb   ...I must use sudo? target is an unmounted usb stick, MBR
[15:40] <akik> ArneSE: you use a # for a comment which is not executed (in a shell script)
[15:40] <ArneSE> well, then I can sit here and wait....
[15:40] <tambu> ArneSE: that seems odd. as I said it would do "nothing" because shell ignores # as comments. if you remove the # it would run that command but.. I don't know how that would impact the tutorial without reading it.
[15:41] <SchrodingersScat> I've never seen someone do a cp to a device like that.
[15:42] <akik> ArneSE: umount the usb stick, then use "sudo command ..."
[15:42] <ArneSE> for reference, I'm using this guide. It's for debian but I might do the same with my ubuntu image - https://www.debian.org/CD/faq/#write-usb
[15:43] <ArneSE> note the html anchor, page should scroll down
[15:43] <tambu> ArneSE: I might be missing it but I don't see "#" on the page at all
[15:43] <ArneSE> sorry, wrong tab, I have so many open: https://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/ch04s03.html.en#usb-copy-isohybrid
[15:44] <tambu> ok I see
[15:44] <ArneSE> maybe I'll use dd instead
[15:45] <tambu> they are using # to indicate a shell command interface.. namely root
[15:45] <tambu> ArneSE: for example my normal shell would be tambu@Loki:~$    <_ notice the $ that is generally used to indicate shell commands.. But if you switch to "root"
[15:46] <tambu> ArneSE: sudo -s  ... root@Loki:~#    <- notice the # now to indicate you are effectively root
[15:46] <ArneSE> oh, so it's something the prompt types out
[15:46] <tambu> so you would "ignore the #" when you copy the command.
[15:47] <tambu> ArneSE: to be honest I've never tried copying an ISO image directly to a device..  I've only used the "dd" command.. it might work just haven't done it.
[15:48] <luxiaoyou> help
[15:48] <ArneSE> Right right. I'll try. Seems I need to sudo because I get > cp: cannot create regular file ‘/dev/sdb’: Permission denied
[15:48] <SchrodingersScat> yeah, maybe it's effectively the same, but since debian says, 'can now' that implies to me that it didn't work before, so maybe better to stick with dd, since this is #ubuntu
[15:49] <ArneSE> Oh, yeah I'm on 14.04
[15:49] <tambu> ArneSE: shouldn't matter $ and # have been around a very long time.
[15:51] <tambu> luxiaoyou it's probably more helpful to start with a question rather than just help.
[15:52] <cfhowlett> !help | luxiaoyou
[15:52] <shibboleth> SchrodingersScat, user must be member of group "disk" or you'll have to chown that device
[15:53] <sambagirl> Hey seveas! long time no see. Happy New Year!
[15:53] <Seveas> happy new year sambagirl
[15:53] <pouet12345> hello
[15:53] <xJeremyCx> hello guys
[15:55] <ArneSE> (I think dd is copying... there's a blank line in terminal, no progress bar for these sort of things I guess)
[15:55] <tambu> ArneSE: yes unfortunately command lines don't often given "progress bars" and since you are doing a low level copy operations it wouldn't know how I doubt. Just give it time. depends on size of image speed of USB and speed of the memory.. I'd say give it at least 5 mins likely be done sooner
[15:56] <sambagirl> I'm using Hoary Hedgehog ubuntu :D
[15:56] <lotuspsychje> !eol | sambagirl
[15:56] <tambu> ArneSE: Hopefully your USB stick/device has a flashing light to indicate access? if not.. well give it time.
[15:56] <SchrodingersScat> ArneSE: you can send a USR1 signal to dd to have it output things
[15:57] <sambagirl> I think that was the best release to date :D
[15:57] <ArneSE> tambu> no, it's a tiny thing. HDD light on comp isn't blinking much but I suppose it's because the USB is so slow that HDD doesn't need to read often.
[15:57] <SchrodingersScat> ArneSE: think it's something like sudo kill -s USR1 `pidof dd`
[15:58] <xJeremyCx> my windows partition has a few "bad blocks". Ubuntu runs perfectly fine. My question is, is it possible to fix the bad blocks issue in ubuntu?
[15:58] <ArneSE> Sounds dangerous! Linux is all about trusting strangers' terminal commands, heh. Oh! It's done!
[15:58] <tambu> ArneSE: did you use "dd" or "cp" in the end? SchrodingersScat appears to have a suggestion
[15:59] <ArneSE> dd. 1.2GB copied, 3.7MM/s were the stats
[15:59] <ArneSE> I might do the same for the Ubuntu-mate 15 image while I'm at it
[16:00] <SchrodingersScat> ArneSE: always investigate what you type in, you can google my suggestion and check to see if it's sane.  Also a good reason to wait a bit and see if another user thinks what the other user suggested was a bad idea or not ;)
[16:01] <ArneSE> SchrodingersScat, I usually look at multiple search results to see if people suggest similar things, but sometimes you just want to get things up and running quickly
[16:02] <SchrodingersScat> xJeremyCx: afaik no.  My layman's understanding is that sectors get marked on the drive's bad blocks list and aren't used in the future.  If it's bad spots on the disk, then no software could help you.
[16:03] <SchrodingersScat> ArneSE: haste makes waste
[16:03] <xJeremyCx> awwww
[16:06] <csmith> what is this
[16:07] <SchrodingersScat> !info gddrescue | xJeremyCx can try to recover files, that's about it, afaik.  Otherwise if you're getting many bad blocks, may need to consider getting a new drive.
[16:07] <SchrodingersScat> !support | csmith this is #ubuntu, ubuntu support.
[16:08] <luxiaoyou> quit
[16:11] <xJeremyCx> thanks, SchrodingersScat
[16:13] <ArneSE> (dd worked, now installing from USB, thank you for the assistance)
[16:13] <tambu> ArneSE: gl!
[16:17] <lotuspsychje> best of wishes MonkeyDust
[16:18] <MonkeyDust> lotuspsychje  same to you
[16:19] <izimh1> hello all
[16:25] <cisc> does ubuntu have AppArmor enabled out of the box?
[16:26] <k1l_> cisc: yes
[16:26] <lotuspsychje> !info apparmor | cisc
[16:26] <cisc> thanks
[16:26] <compdoc> Ive seen AppArmor, but it doesnt seem to do much. Is it enabled?
[16:31] <jimi_> dumb question but if i follow these instructions the usb will be bootable on a pc not just mac right? http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/create-a-usb-stick-on-mac-osx
[16:32] <ikonia> it will be bootable on anything that can boot from USB
[16:32] <tambu> jimi_ I just used that faq last night and it worked great.
[16:33] <jimi_> tambu, ikonia ok thanks :)
[16:34] <luxiaoyo1> luxiaoyou hi
[16:34] <Skyrider> Ello all
[16:35] <Skyrider> When I try "ifconfig wlan0 up" I'm getting ->  wlan0: ERROR while getting interface flags: No such device
[16:35] <IOIO> hello
[16:35] <ikonia> there is no such device called wlan0
[16:35] <Skyrider> Bus 001 Device 007: ID 1737:0079 Linksys WUSB600N v2 Dual-Band Wireless-N Network Adapter [Ralink RT3572]
[16:35] <Skyrider> This one is connected.
[16:36] <ikonia> there is not a device called wlan0
[16:36] <Skyrider> I get that..
[16:36] <ikonia> ok,
[16:36] <Skyrider> I tried 1,2,3 etc.. nothing appears to work.. so my question is, how do I get it to work.
[16:36] <IOIO> what are trying?
[16:36] <ikonia> just adding numbers does not a valid approach
[16:36] <Skyrider> Course it will, if it happens to be assigned to a different number.. just making sure.
[16:36] <ikonia> your wireless interface will be called whatever udev devices it's called
[16:37] <ikonia> if you do an ifconfig -a you will see all the devices on your system
[16:37] <IOIO> thats windows
[16:37] <ikonia> if you do not see your wireless in the list, it's because the operating system can't load a working/supported kernel module for it
[16:37] <tambu> Skyrider: "ip link" will sometimes help to find the device name it's likely something crazy you wouldn't expect
[16:37] <IOIO> ipconfig
[16:37] <ikonia> if there is no valid kernel module loaded, that is the problem you need to addres
[16:37] <ikonia> IOIO: no-one said ipconfig
[16:38] <Skyrider> Using ifconfig shows different network adapters.. but I assume "wlx00259c96f84c" is the wireless one.
[16:38] <ikonia> that seems a logical guess
[16:38] <Skyrider> Would that be the interface name as well?
[16:38] <tambu> Skyrider yup thats what you should use instead of wlan0
[16:38] <Skyrider> Awesome, ty.
[16:38] <ikonia> ifconfig displays interface names
[16:38] <ikonia> so what you are seeing IS the interface name
[16:38] <Skyrider> Good to know.. I'll remember that
[16:39] <MonkeyDust> Skyrider  you can also also use iwlist
[16:40] <tambu> Linux = n+1 ways to get at information :)
[16:41] <Skyrider> Is there a way to tell in ubuntu if the specific wireless ad, supports access point mode?
[16:41] <ikonia> Skyrider: depends on the kernel module really
[16:41] <ikonia> if you right click on the interface in network manager and see "use as hotspot" or something like that "yes"
[16:41] <Skyrider> I never turned my wlan into a wireless extender.
[16:42] <Skyrider> Ah, using shell.
[16:42] <Skyrider> No desktop.
[16:42] <ikonia> then you'll have to look if your module supports "infrastructure mode"
[16:45] <cisc> so if AppArmor is enabled by default in Ubuntu, there are default profiles that already come configured which work out-of-the-box, without the user having to touch much?
[16:45] <lotuspsychje_> cisc: man apparmor in terminal
[16:45] <ikonia> cisc: you should be able to list the profiles
[16:46] <cisc> ok thanks
[16:51] <unknown1337> hi, I have installed tlp and indicator-cpufreq. first problem: after a right click on the indicator I only see "performance" and "saving mode" but not the cpu frequencies. second problem: I can't disable turbo mode
[16:52] <unknown1337> ubuntu 15.10, 4.2.0-22-generic. Thinkpad T450s
[16:53] <nicomachus> unknown1337: you should be able to disable turbo mode by settings /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpufreq/boost to 0
[16:53] <jmadero> unknown1337: http://askubuntu.com/questions/544266/why-are-missing-the-frequency-options-on-cpufreq-utils-indicator
[16:53] <pouet12345> hi
[16:53] <jmadero> the answer there answers your first question
[16:54] <pouet12345> would there be a way that my user can't delete deja-dup backups ?
[16:54] <pouet12345> to avoid errors
[16:54] <pouet12345> like having a special user doing the backups
[16:54] <jmadero> pouet12345: let sudo make the backups
[16:55] <pouet12345> jmadero, ok, but is there such possibility to that simply ?
[16:55] <jmadero> pouet12345: not following that question (sorry)
[16:55] <pouet12345> jmadero, can deja dupe be run as root
[16:56] <jmadero> I'd imagine so, I use rsync for backing up so I can't say for sure
[16:56] <SchrodingersScat> !gksudo
[16:56] <MonkeyDust> rsync for backups, here too
[16:56] <nicomachus> if we're checking in, I'm checking in w/ rsync as well
[16:57] <Redguy> hi
[16:58] <Redguy> so i just installed unbuntu since i got more into programming
[16:58]  * jmadero confused how those are related
[16:58] <jmadero> anyone know why I can't set my ccache max size?
[16:58] <jmadero> ccache --max-size 32G Could not set cache size limit.
[16:59] <Redguy> web development how to secure my pages penetration testing
[16:59] <ikonia> thats nothing to do with ubuntu
[16:59] <Redguy> well its more open than windows
[16:59] <nicomachus> Redguy: check with #security for that
[16:59] <ikonia> thats web developement questions
[16:59] <ikonia> Redguy: no it's not
[16:59] <unknown1337> jmadero, thx
[16:59] <jmadero> unknown1337: did it work?
[16:59] <nicomachus> err... ##security
[16:59] <ikonia> Redguy: I suggest you talk to web development channels
[17:00] <unknown1337> nicomachus, there is no such file. I can see a dir /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/
[17:00] <Redguy> well i was actualy looking to join anonymous channels
[17:00] <Redguy> but i don't know how xd
[17:00] <ikonia> thats not really our problem
[17:00] <nicomachus> unknown1337: and there's no "boost" when you ls?
[17:00] <ikonia> isn't it only the i7's in the thinkpads that support boost (asking as I'm not sure)
[17:01] <unknown1337> nicomachus, no
[17:01] <nicomachus> unknown1337: ok, what is in there?
[17:02] <unknown1337> nicomachus, http://pastebin.com/P71Vr7JN
[17:03] <nicomachus> unknown1337: you must go deeper.
[17:03] <unknown1337> jmadero, after reading that the old ACPI cpufreq is older and slower I thought I just let it be
[17:04] <nicomachus> unknown1337: cd cpu0/cpufreq/
[17:05] <nicomachus> unknown1337: I'm just going off this, so feel free to try another method listed: https://askubuntu.com/questions/259535/disabling-intel-turbo-boost
[17:06] <unknown1337> nicomachus, ok. thx
[17:07] <jaybro> help
[17:07] <lotuspsychje> !ask | jaybro
[17:07] <jmadero> apparently not patient ;)
[17:08] <skicitolga> slm
[17:11] <jnix> so I'm running kubuntu 15.10,  after installing nvidia drivers, everything is very big. Screen resolution is still set 1920x1080, both kde settings and nvidia settings show this, how does one control DPI in 15.10?
[17:12] <jnix> there isn't an xorg.conf that I can find, and not sure if writing one is going to hose my system up or not
[17:12] <lotuspsychje> jnix: grafix card chipset?
[17:13] <jnix> nvidia nvs on a dell latitude e6530
[17:13] <jnix> NVIDIA Corporation GF108GLM [NVS 5200M] (rev a1)
[17:14] <jnix> i am not opposd to going back to the intel driver if i can figure out why kde suddenly likes to go into "LSD" mode
[17:14] <jnix> i can't explain it other than it looks like an acid trip....
[17:15] <lotuspsychje> jnix: optimus card?
[17:15] <jnix> yes, but latitude has an option in bios to disable optimus and use only the dgpu
[17:16] <jnix> with the option enabled, lspci|grep VGA will only show the nvidia card
[17:16] <lotuspsychje> jnix: have you installed nvidia-prime and wich nvidia driver is active exactly?
[17:16] <jnix> i'm just using the nvidia driver that jockey has
[17:16] <jnix> the recommended one, sec
[17:16] <lotuspsychje> jnix: check plz
[17:16] <jnix> i haven't heard of nvidia-prime before
[17:16] <snfgf> After installing apache2, I want to install php5, (apt-get install php5 libapache2-mod-php5), phpinfo() tells me I have php-7 installed
[17:17] <lotuspsychje> !info nvidia-prime | jnix if your card is optimus, you need it
[17:17] <jnix> cool, i'll have a look at that
[17:17] <DavidMedina1> is there a software like xampp in ubuntu
[17:17] <jnix> looks like i'm running "NVIDIA binary driver - version 352.63 from nvidia - 352 (Recommended Driver)
[17:17] <lotuspsychje> jnix: try a lower nvidia version like 340 or 346
[17:18] <jnix> lotuspsychje: i'll give that a shot
[17:18] <lotuspsychje> jnix: then enable performance mode in nvidia-settings
[17:18] <jnix> DavidMedina1: on the xampp website they seem to have a linux version
[17:20] <snfgf> How to downgrade from php7 to php5?
[17:20] <snfgf> or actually install php5 without it installing php7?
[17:20] <lotuspsychje> snfgf: its not reccomended to install package versions different to your ubuntu version
[17:20] <lotuspsychje> !latest | snfgf
[17:21] <jnix> snfgf: have you messed with docker at all yet?
[17:21] <snfgf> Nope
[17:21] <jnix> docker is <3
[17:21] <snfgf> I will have a look
[17:21] <lotuspsychje> snfgf: wich ubuntu version do you have
[17:21] <OerHeks> snfgf, you only get php7 with an ppa, not standard.
[17:21] <OerHeks> so remove that ppa, and reverse packages
[17:22] <snfgf> 14.04
[17:22] <jnix> lotuspsychje: is it still recommended to reboot post graphics driver install?
[17:22] <jnix> didn't get a "please reboot" warning
[17:23] <lotuspsychje> jnix: reboot after installing a grafix driver
[17:24] <lotuspsychje> !info php5 trusty | snfgf
[17:24] <jnix> cool. I'll be back. Cross your fingers ;) ... i might try turning optimus back on, nvidia-prime and optimus appear to have been installed for me
[17:24] <jnix> s/and optimus/and bumblebee/
[17:24] <lotuspsychje> jnix: wait
[17:24] <lotuspsychje> jnix: did you mess with bumblebee?
[17:26] <lotuspsychje> jnix: bumblebee is outdated, use nvidia-prime only instead
[17:26] <snfgf> OerHeks, I don't recall adding a PPA. How might I find the relevant one?
[17:27] <OerHeks> snfgf, softwarecenter > sources
[17:27] <k1l_> snfgf: "ls -al /etc/apt/sources.list.d" in a pastebin please
[17:27] <OerHeks> likely you will find ppa:ondrej/php-7.0 or like that
[17:28] <snfgf> :D
[17:28] <k1l_> snfgf: then remove the ppa with ppa-üirge
[17:28] <k1l_> *ppa-purge
[17:29] <snfgf> i just rm'd -rf'd it
[17:29] <snfgf> that a problem?
[17:29] <k1l_> that doesnt change the packages back
[17:31] <jnix> turning optimus back on seems to have done the trick
[17:31] <OerHeks> !ppapurge
[17:34] <Guest86408> hello what are the best pythin ide's for linux
[17:37] <DK5KF> hello
[17:38] <jnix> lebigmac: personally i use atom editor from http://atom.io
[17:38] <DK5KF> hello from dk5kf
[17:39] <jnix> https://wiki.python.org/moin/IntegratedDevelopmentEnvironments
[17:39] <_neuro_> hey folks!
[17:40] <_neuro_> Having trouble connecting to a local NAS drive via samba.  It worked on previous ubuntu versions, but on 14.04 when I attempt to access the "Windows Network" from "Browse Network" I get "Unable to access location: Failed to retrieve share list from server: No such file of directory"
[17:40] <_neuro_> Any ideas?
[17:45] <lebigmac> to much text
[17:49] <xdroid> can any1 on tell me why ubuntu is not using my entire network bandwidth
[17:49] <ikonia> how do you know it's not ?
[17:50] <xdroid> because in mobile it runs at 4Mbps and in ubuntu it is barely giving 1Mbps
[17:50] <ikonia> in mobile ?
[17:50] <ikonia> "it runs" ?
[17:51] <ikonia> could you explain the problem please, clearly ?
[17:51] <lucascarl70> hAPPY nEW yEAR EVRYBODY!!!!
[17:51] <lucascarl70> Oops. My caps lock was on.
[17:52] <twocarlo> hAPPY nEW yEAR EVRYBODY too
[17:52] <lucascarl70> :)
[17:52] <tambu> Is there a effective way to get Ubuntu 15.10 to reload networking interface info? I used to use systemctl restart networking but that doesn't seem to do "everything".. for example when I remove eth1 from /etc/network/interfaces restarting networking doesn't seem to read that change.
[17:53] <tambu> It seems a bit extreme to have to reboot, I'm assuming there are additional services I need to restart in addition to just "networking"?
[18:00] <muzontrek> Hello I have a problem . I can not connect the speakers Sony SRS-X33 to the computer via bluetooth
[18:01] <thomas_> q
[18:02] <muzontrek> Hello I have a problem . I can not connect the speakers Sony SRS-X33 to the computer via bluetooth
[18:03] <muzontrek> Hello I have a problem . I can not connect the speakers Sony SRS-X33 to the computer via bluetooth
[18:04] <muzontrek> Hello I have a problem . I can not connect the speakers Sony SRS-X33 to the computer via bluetooth
[18:05] <muzontrek> Hello I have a problem . I can not connect the speakers Sony SRS-X33 to the computer via bluetooth
[18:06] <muzontrek> Hello I have a problem . I can not connect the speakers Sony SRS-X33 to the computer via bluetooth
[18:07] <nicomachus> !patience | muzontrek
[18:07] <jmadero> muzontrek: do you see the bluetooth speakers in the bluetooth connection search thing?
[18:08] <carlos_> hi people, someone speak spanish ?
[18:09] <DosTuMai> !es | carlos_
[18:09] <muzontrek> jmadero: нуы
[18:10] <jmadero> channels is English only
[18:10] <muzontrek> jmadero: yes
[18:10] <DosTuMai> muzontrek: English only, please. =]
[18:10] <jmadero> and what happens when you try to connect?
[18:13] <AciD`> hi
[18:14] <AciD`> quick question ; if I want to be able to chat over a lan connection with a windows user (ikr), which client should I tell them to install (since I'm using kde telepathy that manages bonjour and more)?
[18:15] <jmadero> AciD`: seems like a Windows question not a Ubuntu question
[18:15] <ikonia> what server are you using as a chat server
[18:16] <Guest22211> hi, guys, I just downloaded xubuntu. I can't get anyone on that channel. I've had some trouble with sound in the past, but it looks good right now. I'm just wondering if I can get Minecraft without it messing up my sound. has anyone had that problem?
[18:16] <AciD`> jmadero > well, then plan if for them to switch (pretty soon) to linux, so I was asking about a linux app that could also run on windows
[18:16] <AciD`> *the
[18:17] <ikonia> what chat server are you running ?
[18:17] <AciD`> ikonia > no server, just a bunch of clients on the same lan
[18:17] <ikonia> how do you expect to chat ?
[18:17] <AciD`> well
[18:17] <akik> AciD`: you can let them to login to your linux server and use talk there
[18:17] <AciD`> the bonjour protocol manages this pretty well between kde clients
[18:18] <AciD`> akik > any FAQ or tutorials for that, because I don't know what is 'talk' you talk about ;)
[18:18] <ikonia> bonjour protocol as a chat protocol ??
[18:18] <user74747> Hi! I have a script that reads and writes data packets from a serial port. Can I turn it into a network interface? Are there any mechanisms for inserting your own low-level protocols into the standard stack?
[18:19] <ikonia> user74747: no
[18:19] <RaptorJesus> AciD` looks like pidgin does bonjour chat
[18:20] <AciD`> ikonia > yep : http://i.imgur.com/pNNmlsR.png
[18:20] <akik> AciD`: it's a way to talk (write) between users of a computer
[18:20] <AciD`> RaptorJesus > I'll take a look at that, thanks
[18:20] <akik> AciD`: but i think it's only for one-to-one session
[18:20] <AciD`> akik > ah, ok. Those users are total IT noobs so it needs to be dumbed down a lot (ie. no terminal looking app ,p)
[18:20] <ikonia> AciD`: what am I looking at ?
[18:21] <akik> !info talkd
[18:21] <user74747> What if I write a wrapper kernel module that reads/writes a named socket? How are such situations handled in general?
[18:21] <AciD`> ikonia > the chat options form kde telepathy app
[18:21] <AciD`> first entry : bonjour
[18:21] <ikonia> AciD`: doesn't that still go through a server running
[18:21] <ikonia> thats not point to point
[18:21] <ikonia> (as far as I'm aware)
[18:22] <ikonia> thats the bonjour chat service, not the bonjour protocol
[18:22] <AciD`> oh
[18:22] <AciD`> well, on a lan it 'just works' by discovering other telepathy clients
[18:23] <ikonia> interesting, it looks like it's layered ontop of the bonjour protocl
[18:24] <RaptorJesus> Pidgin may call it local-xmpp
[18:25] <AciD`> well, thank you guys, I'll use pidgin
[18:44] <nenis3i8> In my BIOS are two power saving modes, S4 and S5. Any ideas what they are? S4 is disabled, S5 is enabled.
[18:44] <nenis3i8> I want to reduce the fan speed of the computer.
[18:47] <humberto36> boa tarde
[18:47] <falco3205> hi!
[18:47] <humberto36> hi
[18:48] <falco3205> italian in the room?
[18:48] <k1l_> !it | falco3205
[18:49] <EDinNY> Why can't I ping or ssh to my new 15.10 machine?
[18:51] <joeb3_> EDinNY, is openssh-server installed?
[18:51] <EDinNY> yes
[18:51] <k1l_> EDinNY: check the ip
[18:51] <EDinNY> I just thought of that lol
[18:51] <alfio> hostel
[18:54] <alfio> hostel
[18:55] <alfio> wiindows 7
[18:55] <ikonia> alfio: what's the problem ?
[18:56] <alfio> ies
[18:56] <ikonia> ?
[18:56] <karen_> hi, guys, is there some sort of cleaner i should use to cleanup after updating etc? I just installed ubuntu.
[18:56] <alfio> via col vento
[18:56] <ikonia> karen_: not really
[18:57] <karen_> you don't think your computer fills up with old files?
[18:57] <ikonia> nope
[18:57] <karen_> how does that work
[18:57] <ikonia> the package manager manages it
[18:57] <k1l_> karen_: "sudo apt-get autoclean"  that will remove the old downloaded packages
[18:58] <solsTiCe> hi. I cna't login in skype using microsoft account. I am returned back to the login screen as sson as i seem to connect
[18:58] <karen_> oh good thanks!
[19:02] <alfio> pc professionale
[19:03] <nicomachus> !it | alfio
[19:07] <alfio> grazie,ci capisco poco sono nuovo
[19:08] <alfio> ubuntu.it
[19:10] <samadhi_> Hi There
[19:11] <samadhi_> I change the file /etc/passwd trying modify the name's user, But now I cant use my old password user
[19:11] <ikonia> samadhi_: you should not be touching that file
[19:12] <samadhi_> I know now, But only change the name of the user /home/name
[19:12] <samadhi_> and after my password dont work
[19:13] <harishkrupo> samadhi_, get a live dvd and change that file back to normal
[19:14] <alfio> pc professionale
[19:15] <ikonia> samadhi_: then you did more than that
[19:16] <alfio> qualcuno mi può gentilmente insegnare come usare questo programm
[19:16] <akik> samadhi_: you need to also change /etc/shadow
[19:17] <akik> samadhi_: also /etc/group :)
[19:17] <harishkrupo> better revert passwd back :P
[19:18] <akik> well, it's a learning experience
[19:18] <harishkrupo> true!
[19:19] <harishkrupo> happy new year to all!
[19:19] <samadhi_> Thanks for all, I'm searching for the most easy way :)
[19:21] <harishkrupo> samadhi_, most easy way : get into single user mode and create a new user ! : )
[19:21] <akik> single user mode isn't necessary
[19:22] <harishkrupo> how else?
[19:22] <akik> there's also usermod -l but i haven't used it
[19:22] <akik> harishkrupo: you can just create a new user with useradd
[19:22] <harishkrupo> that requires root
[19:23] <akik> sudo useradd
[19:23] <samadhi_> I should remember you that the system dont read my password
[19:23] <harishkrupo> and ubuntu by default locks root account
[19:23] <OerHeks> harishkrupo +1, best way to solve this is reinstall, samadhi_
[19:23] <harishkrupo> so no sudo and no root. samadhi_ is only left with single user or live dvd
[19:24] <OerHeks> good lesson on 1-1-2016
[19:24] <harishkrupo> Yup agreed OerHeks
[19:24] <harishkrupo> lol
[19:24] <akik> oh wow
[19:26]  * sebastien Happy new year everyone!!
[19:27] <samadhi_> I cant add a new user without password
[19:27] <ikonia> good
[19:27] <harishkrupo> without root password
[19:27] <ikonia> root password doesn't exist
[19:27] <harishkrupo> or sudo
[19:29] <Sebastien> !ops tkogitz is so rude in pm.
[19:29] <tkogitz> Sebastien: what
[19:29] <ikonia> Sebastien: please join #ubuntu-ops
[19:30] <ikonia> (it's a channel /join #ubuntu-ops)
[19:33] <loveheartjoylove> I have a text document, and I need to convert it to microsoft format. Libre has no export as word. WHat do I do?
[19:34] <harishkrupo> loveheartjoylove, try saving it as word not export
[19:34] <Sebastien> loveheartjoylove, copy paste?
[19:35] <nitin> hii
[19:36] <nicomachus> loveheartjoylove: Libre has .doc and docx....
[19:49] <skirnir> leave
[19:49] <skirnir> hi
[19:57] <srismi> Hey all, first time using IRC so please excuse my mistakes if I do any. I was hoping to get opinions from people about using Ubuntu desktop as office workstation with a NAS/ ClearOS/ Samba/ LDAP/ DC. Anyone has tried that?
[19:59] <ilhami> what happened? why the ban?
[19:59] <ikonia> ilhami: ?
[20:00] <ilhami> didn't you ban Sebastien?
[20:00] <Jonii> Uh, so, my saga with cryptswap continues... Turns out systemd
[20:00] <ikonia> ilhami: don't wory about it
[20:00] <Jonii> systemd + swap being enabled prevent computer from powering down
[20:01] <ilhami> Jonii, are you sure about that?
[20:01] <joeb3_> loveheartjoylove, File, saveAS
[20:01] <Jonii> I'm googling to make a switch to upstart, but just making sure, are there any known downsides to this switch?
[20:02] <ilhami> afaik upstart is event based
[20:02] <ikonia> you can't swap to upstart
[20:03] <Jonii> ilhami: quite. If I use systemd, on powerup, I get asked for password for cryptswap1. I can type anything at all on that. If I enable swap, I can't turn computer off, and if I use sudo poweroff -h now, then I get prompted to enter cryptswap password
[20:04] <Jonii> upstart boot seems to work without a hitch, at least, that's my very brief impression of it, testing it now and everything seems to work quite fine
[20:04] <Jonii> swap is enabled and all
[20:04] <ikonia> you can't swap out to upstart
[20:04] <farhan> hi
[20:04] <ilhami> https://www.maketecheasier.com/re-enable-upstart-ubuntu/
[20:05] <psusi> Jonii, umm... upstart has been used in ubuntu since like 9.10 or something... do you mean switch to systemd?
[20:05] <Jonii> ikonia: why not?
[20:05] <Jonii> psusi: for me systemd seems to be the default
[20:05] <ikonia> a lot of the services are centered around systemd
[20:05] <psusi> Jonii, yes, it is as of 15.10
[20:05] <ikonia> there is also some gnome components that depend on systemd events
[20:05] <Jonii> I have to go to advanced boot options to select upstart
[20:05] <psusi> upstart is being replaced by systemd now
[20:06] <Jonii> well, since systemd is blocking powering down the system, I either have to disable swap entirely or use upstart. Should I just disable swap then?
[20:07] <ilhami> what is SysV then?
[20:07] <ikonia> you can work around that
[20:07] <ikonia> it is a known bug
[20:07] <ikonia> there is a refernce on launchpad about it
[20:07] <ilhami> ikonia, he tried since this morning
[20:07] <psusi> ilhami, SysV is the original init system dating back to the 70s
[20:07] <ikonia> I'm well aware, but he's not tried those work arounds
[20:11] <Jonii> I remember reading about plenty of work arounds that I honestly couldn't tell if they were legit or not, coming from somewhat suspicious sites or downvoted comments
[20:12] <ikonia> launchpad has it documented in the bug
[20:12] <Jonii> I've tried everything that I managed to understand how it's supposed to help
[20:12] <Jonii> launchpad had lengthy discussion about it too
[20:12] <ikonia> find the official bug and there are 2 - 3 work arounds in it
[20:13] <Jonii> Plenty of comments, I think I tried most of the fixes suggested there
[20:13] <ikonia> depending on which one of the situations is blocking you
[20:13] <ilhami> the thing about Ubuntu bugs.. you never know if they will ever get fixed. :)
[20:13] <ikonia> as I said at the start though, remove encypted swap unless you need it
[20:13] <ikonia> and you'll save a lot of time and effort
[20:13] <ilhami> I can find bugs that dates back to 2005 heh
[20:13] <ikonia> ilhami: course you can
[20:14] <Jonii> oh wait, launchpad thread
[20:14] <Jonii> That had no suggested fixes I could find I don't think
[20:14] <tgm4883> ilhami: that is true of any bugs
[20:14] <Jonii> i was thinking askubuntu thread
[20:15] <vitimiti> Hi, I'm having problems with my HDMI. I'm trying to connect the TV to the PC, and everything works, except for the HDMI sound not being available at all. I ran these two commands, and I see that the aplay -l one doesn't find the HDMI card, while the lspci one does. The HDMI used to work, until now, I don't know why: http://paste.ubuntu.com/14361405/
[20:16] <orange_> hello
[20:16] <ilhami> hello
[20:16] <orange_> ım trying my new orange pi:D
[20:17] <orange_> and good by.Hexchat is working
[20:17] <Smokie_> hey guys, got a quick question, whenever i try to use apt-get, it tries to get the package using ipv6 address and it stays for around 8-10mins before it starts downloading, anyone know why its doing that?
[20:17] <ikonia> Smokie_: ubuntu indian mirror by any chance ?
[20:18] <Smokie_> ikonia, no, using local Swiss mirror as far as i can tell
[20:18] <ikonia> the indian mirror does it all the time on the IPV6 address
[20:19] <ikonia> log a bug and raise it to the ubuntu-mirror team or ubuntu-infrastructure team
[20:19] <ikonia> there are mirror maintainers in #ubuntu-mirror too
[20:19] <Smokie_> ikonia, is there a way to make it use ipv4 instead of looking for ipv6?
[20:19] <ikonia> it's a load balancer in front of it
[20:19] <ilhami> disable ipv6
[20:19] <ikonia> no
[20:19] <ikonia> it just serves what's behind it
[20:19] <ikonia> ilhami: no
[20:19] <ilhami> ?
[20:19] <ilhami> why not?
[20:19] <ikonia> Smokie_: swap to another mirror, and contact the mirror owner
[20:20] <ikonia> (or mirror team to let them know)
[20:20] <Smokie_> how can i change the mirror?
[20:20] <ikonia> there software sources tool, or the sources.list file
[20:22] <Smokie_> you mean a software that can b used to pick different sources?
[20:22] <ikonia> no, the software sources application
[20:22] <ikonia> where you enable/disable/change repos
[20:22] <ilhami> it's an application in your distribution.. just search for it
[20:23] <Smokie_> alright. im on the server edition so ill look up on how to do that on ubuntu server
[20:23] <ikonia> just modify the sources.list
[20:30] <Jonii> Just to check, to delete swap partition, all I need to do is to comment out a line on fstab?
[20:30] <ikonia> no, that won't delete it
[20:30] <ikonia> that just won't attempt to mount it
[20:30] <Jonii> Well, I mean, to make sure my system forgets about it. Obv. I need to also delete the partition
[20:30] <ikonia> if you comment it out/remove it it will not attempt to mount it
[20:30] <Jonii> And probably expand the dominion of my partition
[20:32] <jayden> Anybody know where I can find intel integrated graphics drivers?
[20:32] <ikonia> you don't need them
[20:32] <ikonia> they are part of xorg
[20:33] <jayden> Oh, always thought that was the reason all my games ran considerably slower using Linux over Windows
[20:33] <ikonia> nah, normally because wine sucks
[20:34] <jayden> They're games that run natively
[20:34] <ikonia> then it's most likley just underpowered for the game
[20:34] <Jonii> Yay, booted into systemd!
[20:35] <jayden> For example, I tried out Binding of Isaac Rebirth, I got like 10 frames, but in Windows I get 60 stable
[20:35] <Jonii> jayden: linux port or attempted to run game on wine?
[20:35] <jayden> linux port
[20:36] <Jonii> That's totally developer-dependent, how much effort they put into that port. Some games, early on the linux port were unplayable or borderline unplayable because of crashes, fps issues etc
[20:36] <jayden> Yeah, that's understandable.
[20:36] <ilhami> wine really sucks yeah
[20:37] <Jonii> Some games, they were eventually fixed and they ended up running as well as windows ones. Some games never put in the effort :p
[20:37] <jayden> Ah, that sucks.
[20:38] <Jonii> DEven Counter-Strike: Global Offensive eventually got their act together :D
[20:39] <Jonii> It runs pretty well now. In  the early days it was a total disaster, you could occasionally see through walls and whatnot
[20:39] <jayden> I should give that a shot, I mean, I don't expect 60fps, because it barely hits 25 on windows, but hey, if it runs okay I don't care.
[20:39] <jayden> I need a better pc, gah
[20:40] <ikonia> jayden: check the xorg logs and see what driver it's trying to use
[20:40] <ikonia> it may have failed to detect and be using the fall back on
[20:40] <jayden> How do I check that?
[20:40] <ikonia> the xorg logs
[20:40] <ilhami> intel gpus are not good except the newer ones that are ok :p
[20:41] <ilhami> the integrated ones that is
[20:41] <nicomachus> I can run a surprising amount of games on my HD4500
[20:41] <ilhami> get a dedicated GPU
[20:41] <nicomachus> doesn't quit work that way in laptops.
[20:41] <nicomachus> s/quit/quite/
[20:42] <ilhami> oh. don't play on a laptop
[20:42] <ilhami> :p
[20:42] <jayden> oh trust me, i would if i could
[20:43] <jayden> thanks
[20:44] <ilhami> desktop hardware 1000x > laptop hardware :D
[20:44] <ikonia> err no
[20:45] <iso2usbONaMAChel> requesting assistance: see my username
[20:45] <nicomachus> !ask | iso2usbONaMAChel
[20:45] <ikonia> just ask the question
[20:45] <ikonia> we don't need cyrptic questions
[20:45] <iso2usbONaMAChel> Ok
[20:45] <iso2usbONaMAChel> ALRIGHT ALREADY
[20:45] <iso2usbONaMAChel> (:
[20:45] <ilhami> use dd
[20:46] <iso2usbONaMAChel> Srsy hello I'm Michael
[20:46] <ilhami> iso2usbONaMAChel,
[20:46] <iso2usbONaMAChel> and I need help
[20:46] <blackflow> Hello. On 15.10 it takes some 10-15 seconds between clicking a link in, say, terminal, until the default browser opens it (Chromium). And that's not a cold start, Chromium is up and running. I don't remember it being that long before, on the same machine. A bug?
[20:46] <iso2usbONaMAChel> damn I need assistance first with grammer, how do I stop using and to start sentences
[20:46] <ikonia> blackflow: sounds like your video card is not configured correctly (from the basic info you'v egiven)
[20:47] <ikonia> iso2usbONaMAChel: enough
[20:47] <ikonia> iso2usbONaMAChel: state your ubuntu question or be quiet please
[20:47] <ikonia> !guidelines > iso2usbONaMAChel
[20:47] <Yato> blackflow, that happens to me occasionally with links in Steam
[20:47] <IdleOne> !usb | iso2usbONaMAChel
[20:47] <Yato> 14.04 here
[20:47] <blackflow> Yato: is it a config issue, something I can fix perhaps?
[20:48] <iso2usbONaMAChel> How do I?: Create a bootable copy of Ubuntu Desktop (latest v.) from a Mac (thats what brings me here today, thanks)?
[20:48] <ilhami> use dd iso2usbONaMAChel
[20:48] <Yato> blackflow, I've never figured out what causes it
[20:48] <Yato> It's very rare for me though
[20:48] <Yato> (I'm using Chrome, not Chromium)
[20:48] <blackflow> Yato: hmm, it's _every_ link for me
[20:48] <Yato> (And Xubuntu)
[20:48] <nicomachus> iso2usbONaMAChel: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/create-a-usb-stick-on-mac-osx
[20:49] <blackflow> Yato: I'm thinking it's dbus, being what a steaming pile of ... it is :)
[20:49] <iso2usbONaMAChel> Thank you each (that had to read these messages brought here today by me) so much (very, very, very, very, very).
[20:50] <ilhami> iso2usbONaMAChel, and stay away from MacBooks :D
[20:50] <ilhami> 10 steps to create a bootable USB :)
[20:50] <ikonia> iso2usbONaMAChel: stop giving bad info
[20:50] <ikonia> there is nothing wrong with macbooks
[20:51] <ilhami> ikonia, imo there is
[20:51] <Yato> At least Macs have a full shell.
[20:51] <Yato> Compared to Windoge
[20:51] <ilhami> brew is a joke compared to apt-get but that's just my opinion :P
[20:52] <valtrip> hey anybody know any security exclusive channel
[20:52] <ikonia> ilhami: then please don't give bad info
[20:52] <ikonia> ##security
[20:53] <Yato> Also, I'm pretty sure brew isn't installed by default
[20:53] <Yato> So why are you pinning that on Mac?
[20:53] <ikonia> this isn't really an ubuntu discussio
[20:53] <ikonia> n
[20:55] <ilhami> haha I guess I started a war. :P let's make a truce
[20:58] <ilhami> anyone knows if there is an actively developed OneDrive client? :)
[20:58] <ikonia> no
[20:58] <ilhami> !OneDrive
[20:59] <ilhami> should I try to develop one ikonia ? :D
[21:00] <harishkrupo> ilhami, go ahead
[21:00] <OerHeks> There is a python client on github, but not really working well AFAIK https://github.com/xybu/onedrive-d-old
[21:00] <iso2usbONaMAChel> guys and females, this img usb instructions isn't working
[21:02] <ilhami> OerHeks, yeah I saw that earlier today.. I don't think it's maintained anymore?
[21:02] <tambu> iso2usbONaMAChel the directions nichomacus gave you work fine, just used them yesterday myself.
[21:06] <ilhami> aaah OerHeks it's under development: https://github.com/xybu/onedrive-d
[21:11] <ztane> ubuntu 15.10; how can I make unity-desktop to run my gnome-keyring-daemon with the pkcs11 smartcard plugin
[21:13] <ztane> or maybe I am misunderstanding... what I need is to be able to ssh-add a smartcard to gnome-keyring-daemon agent
[21:14] <ztane> wonder if gnome-keyring even supports that thing
[21:19] <tambu> Any network-manager savy people here. I'm trying to create vlan interface on eth1.. however every time I do "vconfig add eth1 10" in the syslog I get a message like: NetworkManager[1087]: <info>  (eth1.10): interface index 5 renamed iface from 'eth1.10' to 'rename5'
[21:19] <tambu> Why all the renaming.. what is wrong with eth1.10?
[21:26] <ilhami> hmm
[21:28] <ilhami> which version of Ubuntu are you using tambu ?
[21:28] <tambu> ilhami 15.10
[21:28] <tambu> ilhami it's been renaming interfaces since I booted.. I used udev/rules.d to rename the basic ones to eth0 eth1 eth2 instead of the goobly gook it chose.. but now I'm wondering if that is causing problems with creating vlans..
[21:29] <ilhami> http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/wily/man5/vlan-interfaces.5.html did you look at this?
[21:29] <Guest51247> hi, guys, so how do i use autoclean? I sudo apt-got it, but don't know how to use it.. not to good with linux yet.
[21:29] <ilhami> Guest51207, sudo apt-get autoclean ?
[21:30] <ilhami> tried thaT?
[21:30] <ilhami> that*