[00:00] <dr_willis> CorruptedHelix:  and now you know why it can be differnt on differnt pcs
[00:00] <brightspark> CorruptedHelix: mmc is multi media card, so I'm 95% sure you've correctly identified it.
[00:00] <nexus`> in my opinion you should always do it no matter how stable the distro is
[00:00] <nexus`> remember 12.04 is LTS 12.10 isnt
[00:00] <CorruptedHelix> There's no /dev/zero, by the way
[00:00] <CorruptedHelix> lsited on blkid
[00:01] <dr_willis> CorruptedHelix:  yes.. theres most lilkely hundereds of /dev/XX things not shown. :) sionce they are not 'disk drive' type devices
[00:01] <dr_willis> look in /dev/ sometime
[00:02] <CorruptedHelix> Basically, it should be the correct one as you typed it, correct?
[00:02] <dr_willis> 'sudo dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/mccblk0 bs=1M'
[00:02] <mojeime> wtf retrivin file  26 of 57
[00:03] <CorruptedHelix> I'll type that, then, I blame you if anything goes wrong. :p
[00:03] <vlt> man shred
[00:03] <erpo> My HDD is dying and I'm about to install 12.10 on the replacement. Is btrfs stable enough for everyday use in 12.10?
[00:03] <mojeime> f it is updeating on it self newer told it
[00:03] <CorruptedHelix> Erm, it still worked by the looks of it. Lucky me, because I forgot to unmount it.
[00:03] <s1pher> wilee-nilee: I cannot find apt.sources.list.d
[00:03] <CorruptedHelix> Should I do it again after unmount?
[00:04] <dr_willis> You dont work on mounted partions......
[00:04] <dr_willis> it will get confused. ;)
[00:05] <CorruptedHelix> Then I suppose it wasn't mounted after all
[00:05] <CorruptedHelix> Okay, I did the command, I'll paste the output...
[00:05] <CorruptedHelix> dd: writing `/dev/mccblk0': No space left on device 1808+0 records in 1807+0 records out<PHONE_NUMBER> bytes (1.9 GB) copied, 2.94789 s, 643 MB/s
[00:05] <dr_willis> you can still do the dd command...   just dont try to access the device - untill you reboot.. is my suggestion
[00:05] <CorruptedHelix> well, it should've been in line breaks, but w/e
[00:06] <dr_willis> it wrote 2 gb of zeros..
[00:06] <dr_willis> i suggest rebooting, and repartioning the thing with gparted now.
[00:06] <CorruptedHelix> Should I reboot into Windows or do I need to repartition in Ubuntu?
[00:06] <CorruptedHelix> Fair enough
[00:06] <CorruptedHelix> you answered before I asked
[00:06] <CorruptedHelix> :p
[00:06] <dr_willis> windows may or may not work.
[00:06] <CorruptedHelix> Well, I'll use gparted for the time being, then
[00:06] <|nv|s|b|e> never do
[00:06] <CorruptedHelix> Be right back
[00:08] <wilee-nilee> s1pher, From the terminal gksuo nautilus, in the file that open click file sytem, then etc, then apt, then sources.list.d then find the files with the ppa name
[00:08] <wilee-nilee> gksudo*
[00:09] <s1pher> oh ok thanks
[00:09] <CorruptedHelix_> I'm back, gparted is now scanning my devices
[00:09] <dr_willis> CorruptedHelix_:  if you did a 'gksudo gparted /dev/mmc(whatever)' it would not have to scan all the drives. ;)
[00:09] <CorruptedHelix_> Oh look, looks like I left a ghost
[00:09] <CorruptedHelix_> Better fix that
[00:09] <CorruptedHelix_> dr_willis: too late
[00:10] <CorruptedHelix_> still shows an input/output error on that drive
[00:10] <CorruptedHelix_> which means it didn't work, dr_willis
[00:10] <s1pher> wilee-nilee: Anything with quantal in it?
[00:11] <Baribal> Hi. I've got a few environment variables that I need to be set, and not just in shells. How can I do that?
[00:13] <th0r> Baribal: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EnvironmentVariables
[00:13] <th0r> Baribal: I think .profile is what you want
[00:14] <dr_willis> CorruptedHelix:  gparted gave an io error when you partioned then formated it?
[00:14] <dr_willis> CorruptedHelix:  gparted gave an io error when you partioned then formated it?
[00:15] <CorruptedHelix> dr_willis: .
[00:15] <CorruptedHelix> Said I was banned
[00:15] <mojeime> downloading languge paks 20mins
[00:15] <CorruptedHelix> dr_willis: Yes
[00:15] <CorruptedHelix> Erm, no
[00:15] <CorruptedHelix> I rebooted
[00:15] <CorruptedHelix> and when I loaded gparted
[00:15] <CorruptedHelix> it gave that error when it scanned it
[00:15] <dr_willis> so gparted gave an io error when scaning the device?
[00:16] <CorruptedHelix> yes
[00:16] <dr_willis> sounds like the sd card is gone bad.
[00:16] <CorruptedHelix> just like the first time
[00:19] <nexus`> lj
[00:20] <CorruptedHelix> dr_willis: Any suggestions?
[00:21] <dr_willis> buy a new sd card.. that one is dieing
[00:22] <CorruptedHelix> Fair enough. I was about to use this thing for Wii homebrew, but wiiload is a lifesaver. I can load it wirelessly, I suppose.
[00:22] <CorruptedHelix> Thanks for the advice, I don't know why it died. :/
[00:22] <CorruptedHelix> erm, overuse obviously
[00:22] <CorruptedHelix> But yea.h
[00:22] <CorruptedHelix> G'bye.
[00:23] <yahyaa_> hello all can some one please help me???
[00:25] <ADzebic> Does anyone know why java programs with animation lag on my linux system? I've tried searching all over the web but can't seem to find a solution..
[00:25] <erpo> yahyaa_: The way to ask for help is to state the problem you are having as clearly as possible. If anyone knows the solution, they will respond.
[00:26] <yahyaa_> ok thanks
[00:26] <erpo> ADzebic: Which program? Java applet or application? What kind of animation? Stuttering lag or smooth but delayed playback lag? Is there audio desynchronization?
[00:27] <Tex_Nick> I just completed a new hardware (PC) build for my kids & grandkids ... OS is next and it will be dual boot (win xp & ubuntu 12.10)
[00:27] <ADzebic> erpo: Both give the same results
[00:27] <erpo> ADzebic: Which question are you answering?
[00:27] <Tex_Nick> I'm going to disable grub by setting timeout to zero, because i want to see if i can get kids & grandkids to accept Linux ... only reason for dual boot (win xp) is if I find some applications they need that won't run on wine
[00:27] <Tex_Nick> I would like to have to user accounts ... one for me (Admin) and one for family (Limited Privilege) ... is there a way i can set family account up for auto-login (to bypass lightdm) unless a hotkey is pressed, which would enable lightdm for full login privilege
[00:28] <ADzebic> erpo: It's a simple bouncing ball program and it lags as a Java applet and a regular application..
[00:28] <yahyaa_> I am running Kubuntu 12.10 on a compaq presario and for some reason I can not see network connections under the wlan interface!
[00:28] <Tex_Nick> to have TWO ^
[00:28] <ADzebic> erpo: It's a stuttering type of lag. Not sure about the audio
[00:29] <erpo> ADzebic: How is your CPU usage?
[00:30] <erpo> yahyaa_: Are you familiar with pastebin?
[00:30] <erpo> Tex_Nick: You have a lot of questions there. Let's take them one at a time. How about virtualbox for Windows XP instead of installing it alongside ubuntu?
[00:30] <ADzebic> erpo: Using conky and htop, my cpu usage is fairly while the program is running
[00:30] <AmbreiousIuxnaye> Hey all, when a website tries to access my webcam or microphone, Adobe Flash player asks me to allow, or deny, but i cannot interact witht he menu at all. What do?
[00:31] <erpo> ADzebic: Your CPU usage is fairly? What does that mean?
[00:31] <ADzebic> erpo: fairly low*
[00:31] <erpo> ADzebic: Have you tried to view the animation on a different computer? It could just be that it's a choppy animation.
[00:32] <ADzebic> erpo: I have tried it on my windows machine and it works fine
[00:32] <AmbreiousIuxnaye> Hey all, when a website tries to access my webcam or microphone, Adobe Flash player asks me to allow, or deny, but i cannot interact witht he menu at all. What do?
[00:33] <Tex_Nick> erpo : ok hey that is an option ... MAIN goal here is to NOT use Win Xp ...only question was to bypass lightdm unless a hotkey was pressed ... other info was to clarify wha i'm doing ;-)
[00:33] <erpo> AmbreiousIuxnaye: The normal way of doing things is to ask the question once and wait. If anyone knows the answer, they will say something.
[00:34] <AmbreiousIuxnaye> erpo: alrighty.
[00:34] <yahyaa_> no I am not familiar with it, I am new to linux
[00:34] <StR34k> Hey guys, I have a question about grub... I would like to add a custom entry, that only includes a singe kenel param to all the kernels detected... I hope someone will help...
[00:34] <erpo> Tex_Nick: Ok. Yes, you can go to the User Accounts tool when signed in. From there, pick the limited user account and change the Automatic Login toggle switch to "On".
[00:35] <shape> Can someone please help me, I get this from playing 1080p videos http://img90.imageshack.us/img90/4205/matrixscreenshot.png (I have tried ALL the Nvidia drivers in Jockey and even tried vdpau hardware acceleration, any ideas?
[00:35] <erpo> Tex_Nick: As far as pressing a hot key, I don't know. However, you would be free to boot the system, let it log into the limited user account, and then log out to get to the login screen.
[00:35] <compdoc> heh:  A Linux version of Office 2013 could be released sometime next year, possibly soon after the debut of the Android build, according to a report by ExtremeTech.
[00:35] <ADzebic> erpo: Could it be something with my video card drivers?
[00:35] <StR34k> IE: there is the default entry, and a rescue entry, and I'd like to see my entry there....
[00:37] <shape> join mplayer
[00:37] <erpo> yahyaa_: Can you get the laptop on the Internet through a wired connection for testing?
[00:37] <erpo> ADzebic: Possible. Which JRE are you using?
[00:38] <yahyaa_> yes
[00:38] <erpo> Ok, do that, open up a browser, and go to http://pastebin.com/ .
[00:38] <ADzebic> erpo: i'm using jre7 openjdk
[00:39] <mark2> hi
[00:39] <mark2> can someone help
[00:39] <yahyaa_> ok wait one
[00:40] <dr_willis> mark2:  tell the channel the issue...
[00:40] <mark2> i like to know when i use ubuntu can i use it from virtualbox
[00:41] <erpo> ADzebic: I don't know for sure what the problem is. The first thing I would try is installing the official Oracle/Sun JRE since I've had bad luck with others.
[00:41] <StR34k> mark2: Depends, what do you need help with....
[00:41] <shape> dr_willis: I get this from playing 1080p videos http://img90.imageshack.us/img90/4205/matrixscreenshot.png (I have tried ALL the  Nvidia drivers in Jockey and even tried vdpau hardware acceleration, any ideas?
[00:42] <shape> It's pretty bad I have to boot into Windows just to watch a movie :(
[00:42] <StR34k> mark2: You can install and use ubuntu in virtualbox. I've done it before, using both windows and linux, however, you should expect performance to be reduced.....
[00:42] <mark2> I dont wanna use ubuntu for anything i just like it better then window but problem is when i use ubuntu from virtualbox ubuntu runs very slow
[00:44] <shape> mark2: so you don't want to use it but you want to use it?
[00:44] <dr_willis> shape:  looks like typical video 'tearing' to me.
[00:44] <brute`> good evening all :)
[00:44] <ADzebic> erpo: Thanks for the help, I'll go and try that now
[00:44] <shape> dr_willis: Yup, btw that's only a frame screenshot, and it just tears a lot when there is a lot of action going on.
[00:44] <dr_willis> shape  enable vsync in ccsm and the players and the drivers.. i belive.
[00:44] <mark2> i just wanna run ubuntu at all times
[00:44] <srini232323> Hey guys. This is probably more of a vmware question than a ubuntu question, but I've been trying to get VMWare Tools to work with Ubuntu and I can't seem to get it to. I'm using VMWare Workstation 9.0.2 with Ubuntu 12.10 (kernel 3.5.0-27-generic)
[00:44] <dr_willis> i rarely see tearing when i use  vlc
[00:45] <brute`> I've been having a hell of a time on 12.04 trying to change the ulimit (file open)
[00:45] <brute`> is there an official procedure for doing this?
[00:45] <srini232323> I saw online somewhere that I had to switch from Ubuntu's unity to GNOME, which I have
[00:45] <shape> dr_willis: It's the same in VLC too btw
[00:45] <srini232323> And I've reinstalled VMWare tools a bunch of times (I do have the kernel headers installed as well)
[00:45] <dr_willis> srini232323:  for running in a vm - i tend to use Lubuntu
[00:45] <StR34k> mark2: anytime you virtualize a system, you're running it with reduced resources, since you're running it under another OS, the primary OS gets the majority of the available resources, and therefore the guest OS will be slower
[00:45] <gottwisst> mark2: If you want to run Ubuntu at all times, I would suggest you install it
[00:45] <dr_willis> shape:  check ccsm, and the drivers, and vlc settings for that vsync or whatever its called
[00:46] <srini232323> Well, I have a quad-core so I don't have any perf issues at all
[00:46] <dr_willis> shape:  vlc has filtering options i recall using ages ago on a low end netbook
[00:46] <erpo> shape: The filename ends in .part. That means the file is incomplete. I would try waiting for the download to complete, or playing the movie from the disc. You do own the disc, don't you?
[00:46] <dr_willis> srini232323:  when running in a VM.. yes you can have issues
[00:47] <StR34k> Anyone here familiar with grub? I want to add a custom entry like the rescue mode....
[00:47] <srini232323> True, but my problem was getting drag and drop to work, perf is certainly lower than what it would have been under a clean install but it's not too important to me right now
[00:47] <dr_willis> StR34k:  look at /etc/grub.d/40_custom  and add one perhaps?
[00:47] <srini232323> Unless there's another reason you recommend Lubuntu to VMs
[00:47] <srini232323> *for VMs
[00:47] <mark2> ok i also downloaded ubuntu without a virtualbox that seems to run faster would that be fine
[00:47] <shape> erpo: It doesn't btw, it's a longer name, the extension is avi. And this happens to me with all HD movies, that was just an example.
[00:48] <dr_willis> srini232323:  it uses less ram. ;) and does all the basics just fine
[00:48] <StR34k> dr_willis: Looked at that, doesn't seem to be what I want, or else I don't fully understand it....
[00:48] <yahyaa_> that looks like a site to blog or something
[00:48] <dr_willis> StR34k:  ive no idea what you want then.
[00:48] <yahyaa_> why should I go to that site?
[00:48] <dr_willis> StR34k:  its just adds extra entries to the end of the grub menu.
[00:48] <erpo> yahyaa_: Good. Now open a terminal, type ifconfig, and hit enter.
[00:49] <erpo> yahyaa_: That site is the polite way to send lots of text to other people over IRC.
[00:49] <StR34k> dr_willis: I just want to add a custom kernel parameter that will update with update-grub / grub-install and create a new entry....
[00:49] <gottwisst> mark2: Ubuntu running as an installed OS should be fine.. it should definitely have better performance than in a virtualbox.
[00:49] <dr_willis> StR34k:  custome paramaters would be in /etc/default/grub
[00:50] <srini232323> So you're saying VMWare Tools might not be working because I don't have enough RAM?
[00:50] <dr_willis> StR34k:   if you want a standard entry AND a custome entry. you will need to do some bash scripting i imagine and look at /etc/grub.d/ for examples
[00:50] <brute`> i added a conf in limits.d, rebooted, ulimit still 1024
[00:50] <brute`> any ideas?
[00:50] <Akuma> hello, I just went through an upgrade and I can no longer seem to be able to connect to my database server remotely
[00:51] <Akuma> when I connect on localhost it works fine
[00:51] <shape> dr_willis: getting ccsm seems lots of tutorials for tearing recommend it for fixing it, will let you know if i solved it :)
[00:51] <dr_willis> StR34k:  all i ever do in 40_custome is add in some static entries for booting some rescue isos. and a windows entry - if ubuntu gets it wrong and wont boot windows for me
[00:51] <Tex_Nick> erpo : I think i complicated my goal ... i just want the box to auto login to "family account" with "limited privilege" ... so would I also set my account (admin) to also auto login ... then to access my account ... logout to lightdm and then choose my account ?
[00:51] <mark2> gottwisst i did install ubuntu so would it be fine to use that one isnt installed in virtualbox?
[00:52] <erpo> Tex_Nick: No, only set your family account to auto login.
[00:52] <gottwisst> mark2: If it is installed, then yes
[00:52] <erpo> Tex_Nick: I think you can only set one account to auto login at a time.
[00:52] <gottwisst> mark2: It should be absolutely fine - in fact, it should run better than in virtualbox
[00:53] <wilee-nilee> erpo, I think you can set any to autologin, however it will only do so from the last one run, automatically.
[00:53] <dr_willis> Tex_Nick:  err. make a 'faimly' user then? and everyone uese that.. seems sort of a step backwards
[00:53] <Tex_Nick> erpo : ok so if i do that light will have to be displayed for multiple logins ?
[00:53] <mark2> without installing in a virtualbox isnt that gonna ruin my computer?
[00:53] <yahyaa_> ok i typed it in now what?
[00:53] <Tex_Nick> lightdm ^
[00:53] <wilee-nilee> or at its choice in the login probably
[00:53] <dr_willis> train people to login to their account. ;)
[00:53] <erpo> yahyaa_: Did a lot of text come out?
[00:53] <yahyaa_> yes two paragraphs
[00:54] <brute`> is anyone available to help me with my ulimit issues? please :)
[00:54] <gottwisst> Mark2: Do you mean ruin your currently system? No, not if you install it on an unused part of your harddrive
[00:54] <wilee-nilee> dr_willis, A little pavlov's training with gummy bears. ;)
[00:54] <mark2> yea that what i mean
[00:54] <mark2> all i did was install it not on a hard drive
[00:54] <erpo> yahyaa_: Great. Copy and paste all of it into the box on the pastebin.com page and click the Submit button.
[00:54] <gottwisst> Mark2: If you install it over top of your current Windows system, obviously your Windows system will no longer be available to use
[00:55] <dr_willis> wilee-nilee:  works for my wife..  the grandson allready figured it out on his own. ;)
[00:55] <wilee-nilee> lol
[00:55] <gottwisst> Mark2:But you can choose how to install it using the live CD
[00:55] <gottwisst> Mark2:So that shouldn't be a problem
[00:55] <erpo> brute`: Silence doesn't mean we're ignoring you. It means we don't know the answer. If you wait, someone who does know the answer may join the channel. If the channel is busy, I would limit asking the question to once every 30 minutes or so.
[00:56] <mark2> i still have windows im on it now
[00:56] <StR34k> dr_willis: Sounding like some scripting will be in order, I want a new option for a single kernel parameter....  /etc/default/grub won't work since I need to add a parameter to the kernel to run on a seperate monitor.... (odd I know but I'm working with the cedarview drm drivers)
[00:56] <yahyaa_> did that now what?
[00:56] <gottwisst> Cool. Well, if you installed Ubuntu after you installed Windows, you will also have grub2
[00:56] <gottwisst> So you can choose which opperating system to use when you boot up again
[00:56] <gottwisst> mark2: see above
[00:56] <erpo> yahyaa_: Now copy the URL from the browsers (it should be something like pastebin.com/xxxxxxxxx) and paste it into this channel.
[00:57] <ansikt> Heya.  How do I change an application's icon/name/search keywords in Unity?   I'd love to be able to have different icons for the native and wine versions of Steam, and to be able to differentiate them in search.
[00:57] <erpo> *browser, not browsers
[00:57] <mark2> i see
[00:57] <yahyaa_> its on a different laptop
[00:58] <erpo> Then look at the different laptop and type what's in its URL bar into the chat window.
[00:58] <gottwisst> mark2: If you installed ubuntu on a completely different harddrive, I'm not entirely sure, but you may need to specify to the bios which harddrive to boot
[00:59] <yahyaa_> http:/pastebin.com/zhmk8j5z
[00:59] <StR34k> gottwisst: looks like mark2 has rebooted..... (mark2<EMAIL_ADDRESS>has quit)
[00:59] <erpo> Tex_Nick: When you boot the machine, it will log straight into the family limited account. When you log out, it will show lightdm and let you choose which account to sign into.
[00:59] <yahyaa_> just did
[00:59] <erpo> yahyaa_: What is the URL?
[01:01] <yahyaa_> http:/pastebin.com/Zhmk8J5Z
[01:01] <erpo> yahyaa_: Just to be clear, the stuff on that page came out of the laptop that won't connect to WiFi, right?
[01:02] <yahyaa_> yes
[01:02] <erpo> yahyaa_: What version of Ubuntu are you using, and what is the exact model number of the laptop?
[01:02] <yahyaa_> kde12.10
[01:05] <leptone> i followed this article for 64 bit ubuntu but it doesnt seem to work does anyone know one for 12.04 specifically? http://www.liberiangeek.net/2012/12/install-google-play-music-manager-in-ubuntu-12-10-quantal-quetzal/
[01:06] <histo> leptone: you can add their repo and try apt-get install whatever
[01:07] <histo> leptone: http://www.google.com/linuxrepositories/
[01:08] <Tex_Nick> erpo : ok, that's exactly what i want ;-) ... i want box to login straight to "family account" ... bypassing GRUB & lightdm ... what's confusing me is if my account is not set to auto login, light would still be displayed ... I need to do it to see how it works ... hey thanks for your input ;-)
[01:09] <yahyaa_> erpo: whats up? did u come up with anything?
[01:09] <gottwisst> Hey, um, anyone know how to install Xonotic on Ubuntu 12.10?
[01:10] <leptone> histro got it thx
[01:11] <dr_willis> gottwisst:  and whatsd xonotic?
[01:11] <dr_willis> !info xonotic
[01:12] <gottwisst> dr_willis: a free fps game based on quake 1 engine
[01:13] <gottwisst> forked from nexuiz
[01:13] <gottwisst> I have the package from the main website, and there are no installation instructions that I can find. In Windows, you just run the exe file...
[01:14] <gottwisst> But I have found no files that work like that on Xonotic inthe package
[01:14] <gottwisst> sorry
[01:14] <gottwisst> on Ubuntu, not Xonotic
[01:14] <relipse> i have a user 'jim' how do i give him access to '/var/www/foobar/' ?
[01:15] <NeoCondrite> Hello, when a websites asks permission to my cam or mic, i cannot interact with the box? Anyone know why not?
[01:18] <histo> NeoCondrite: flash sucks
[01:18] <DarkAceZ> Lartza, you still around?
[01:19] <DarkAceZ> actually,
[01:19] <DarkAceZ> hmm
[01:19] <DarkAceZ> how do I check how many a certain process has open?
[01:21] <yahyaa_> is there anyone here who can help me with a wifi issue???
[01:23] <gottwisst> Hey, how do you enable all of Ubuntu's repositories?
[01:23] <dr_willis> gottwisst:  uncomment them in the sources.list file.. if you need all the official ones
[01:24] <vitimiti> bye
[01:24] <yahyaa> omg is everyone just ignoreing me???
[01:24] <yahyaa> I knew I should have stayed with Microsoft, I wouldn
[01:25] <yahyaa> t have these problems
[01:25] <gottwisst> ... Perhaps I can help you
[01:25] <gottwisst> What is the problem
[01:26] <yahyaa> i can not see the different networks on my wifi under wlan interface
[01:26] <SineTheCreator> yahyaa: chill. what's your problem exactly?
[01:26] <SineTheCreator> yahyaa: okay. can you see SOME networks or none at all?
[01:26] <yahyaa> I CAN NOT SEE ANY OF THEM
[01:27] <SineTheCreator> okay. stop screaming :d
[01:27] <SineTheCreator> chances are, your wifi driver is not installed
[01:27] <SineTheCreator> a problem that would also exist on windows, btw.
[01:27] <yahyaa> exactly
[01:27] <tgm4883> what wifi card?
[01:27] <SineTheCreator> what kind of card?
[01:27] <yahyaa> realtek
[01:27] <SineTheCreator> perfect
[01:27] <SineTheCreator> realtek cards have good linux support
[01:27] <SineTheCreator> do you know the exact model of the card?
[01:27] <yahyaa> no
[01:28] <SineTheCreator> okay
[01:28] <yahyaa> but it is 8...something
[01:28] <SineTheCreator> yahyaa: what version of ubuntu? 12.10?
[01:28] <yahyaa> kubuntu 12.10
[01:28] <SineTheCreator> ahh
[01:28] <SineTheCreator> okay, do this for me please
[01:28] <coinhead> hello, my ralink 3290 wireless doesnt work, module rt3562sta is loaded but ifconfig or iwconfig doesnt show the device. what can i do?
[01:28] <SineTheCreator> open a terminal and run sudo lspci
[01:29] <zykotick9> SineTheCreator: fyi, there is no reason to use sudo with lspci
[01:29] <SineTheCreator> down the lspci list you should see something like "Network Controller: Wireless etc etc"
[01:29] <SineTheCreator> zykotick9: ahh, right. my bad.
[01:29] <SineTheCreator> so just lspci is needed
[01:29] <SineTheCreator> for reference, mine says: Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4318 [AirForce One 54g]
[01:30] <SineTheCreator> yours should list realtek as manufacturer and the model of your chipset
[01:30] <yahyaa> its open
[01:30] <SineTheCreator> once we have that we can proceed
[01:30] <yahyaa> show 22 lines of information
[01:30] <SineTheCreator> the only line that matters is the line for your wifi card
[01:31] <Merkidemis> Is there a way to force APT to use IPv4?  It keeps trying IPv6 and getting errors without falling back to IPv4
[01:31]  * [gnubie] waves
[01:31] <SineTheCreator> Merkidemis: you can disable ipv6 in network interface options.
[01:31] <SineTheCreator> that should help i think
[01:32] <yahyaa>  here is the model number RTL -8139/8139c/8139c+
[01:32] <Merkidemis> SineTheCreator: Where would I do that? I am running a command line only version of Lucid
[01:32] <SineTheCreator> yahyaa: okay.
[01:32] <SineTheCreator> Merkidemis: ahh. /etc/network/interfaces
[01:32] <SineTheCreator> you'll have to add the appropriate line manually, google for the answer :(
[01:33] <SineTheCreator> yahyaa: the 8139 is your wired ethernet card
[01:33] <[gnubie]> my newly setup server is running on precise. i'm having an issue with regards to ssh key based auth. as far as i understand, permissions user's directory and .ssh directory are correct.. also, the authorized_keys seems correct.
[01:33] <SineTheCreator> i need the chipset for the wireless card
[01:33] <[gnubie]> debug1: Offering RSA public key: /Users/bintut/.ssh/id_rsa
[01:33] <[gnubie]> debug2: we sent a publickey packet, wait for reply
[01:33] <[gnubie]> Permission denied (publickey).
[01:33] <yahyaa> ok so how do I find that out
[01:33] <Merkidemis> SineTheCreator: I'll see what I can find, there isn't anything in there for IPv6 now...
[01:33] <SineTheCreator> yahyaa: run lspci again. there would be TWO network cards listed. one is ethernet, one is wireless.
[01:34] <yahyaa> oh i see it
[01:34] <SineTheCreator> yahyaa: okay. what's the chipset model for the wireless card?
[01:36] <yahyaa> it is Broadcom Corporation BCM4318 [AirForce One 54g] 802.11g Wireless Lan Controller (rev  02)
[01:36] <SineTheCreator> ahh perfect!
[01:36] <SineTheCreator> thats the same card i have
[01:36] <SineTheCreator> it's easy to setup
[01:37] <Merkidemis> SineTheCreator: I don't have an ipv6 address when I run ifconfig, so I am confused as to why apt-get would even bother trying
[01:37] <Merkidemis> ipv6
[01:37] <SineTheCreator> yahyaa: for that broadcom card, open a terminal and run: sudo apt-get install firmware-b43-installer
[01:37] <SineTheCreator> yahyaa: it will automagically download and install the correct firmware for your card. after it's done, reboot your machine to make wifi work.
[01:37] <zykotick9> Merkidemis: perhaps check for ipv6 option in /etc/apt/apt.conf?  i certainly don't remember lucid defaulting to ipv6 for apt!
[01:40] <SineTheCreator> yahyaa: i think you and me may have the same laptop D:
[01:40] <SineTheCreator> i have exactly the same ethernet and wifi chipset
[01:40] <Merkidemis> zykotick9: odd, I don't have a /etc/apt/apt.conf file
[01:41] <Merkidemis> zykotick9: Currently when I try to run an apt-get update command I get a lot of errors like: W: Failed to fetch http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/lucid/Release.gpg  Could not create a socket for 2001:67c:1360:8c01::18 (f=10 t=1 p=6) - socket (97 Address family not supported by protocol) [IP: 2001:67c:1360:8c01::18 80]
[01:41] <chessmate> hi all
[01:41] <zykotick9> Merkidemis: that's ok.  humm, i have no idea why apt would be using ipv6.  best of luck.  (not too much life left in lucid (less then a mounth, May 9th i believe), it was the last ubuntu i actually ran)
[01:41] <yahyaa> well that is my neighbors laptop I have a toshiba satelite
[01:41] <SineTheCreator> yahyaa: ahh.
[01:42] <SineTheCreator> did the firmware installer package work for you?
[01:42] <chessmate> I have a problem with the screen dim, can someone help me, please?
[01:42] <Merkidemis> zykotick9: (server is LTS until 2015, but I am not looking forward to the dist-update as those never go well for me
[01:42] <zykotick9> Merkidemis: i wouldn't be surprised if canonical's servers are perhaps ipv6 only and they forgot about lucid?
[01:43] <SineTheCreator> Merkidemis: that is one reason i use debian for my servers. can't get much more long-term than every five years ;)
[01:43] <Merkidemis> Strange as I can ping the addresses over IPv4 just fine.
[01:44] <zykotick9> SineTheCreator: no they don't.  debian is about a 3 year on average (there have been some much longer gaps) support lifespan.
[01:44] <SineTheCreator> zykotick9: i know. my virtual machine provider doesn't offer LTS for some reason. that's another reason :D
[01:45] <SineTheCreator> they only offer ubuntu 10.x and 11.x
[01:45] <SineTheCreator> one thing though, debian does at least keep packages for older versions in the archive repos
[01:45] <SineTheCreator> ubuntu does not in my experience
[01:46] <tgm4883> Merkidemis, are you using apt-cacher or squid deb proxy?
[01:47] <yahyaa> sinethecreator you are the bomb!!!
[01:48] <yahyaa> thanx it worked
[01:48] <Carlos30> Hi, one question, if I install the beta 2 of ubuntu 13.04, when the final version leave should i reinstalling or upgrading would not be necessary to reinstall it?
[01:48] <zykotick9> !final | Carlos30
[01:49] <SineTheCreator> yahyaa: sure. give linux a proper shot, you'll find that there's nothing it doesn't do as well as windows. except gaming. and music, photo, and video production ;)
[01:49] <SineTheCreator> but yeah for everything else it's great
[01:49] <Carlos30> thank you zykotick9 && ubottu
[01:49] <yahyaa> ok I do have one more issue
[01:50] <SineTheCreator> Carlos30: ubottu is a chatbot ;)
[01:50] <yahyaa> I have the HP OfficeJet 6600
[01:50] <SineTheCreator> yahyaa: okay. usb or networked?
[01:50] <coinhead> hello, my ralink 3290 wireless doesnt work, it is llisted by lspci and lshw, module rt3562sta is loaded but ifconfig or iwconfig doesnt show the device. what can i do?
[01:50] <yahyaa> networked
[01:50] <Carlos30> i know SineTheCreator , but it helps me :P
[01:50] <SineTheCreator> yahyaa: okay. go to system tools -> printers
[01:51] <yahyaa> i got the printer to print, but I can not get the scanner to be recognized by simple scan
[01:51] <SineTheCreator> ahh
[01:51] <Merkidemis> tgm4883: I don't know what either of those are, so I doubt it.
[01:52] <SineTheCreator> yahyaa: in that case i have no idea. mine 'just works'
[01:53] <recurry> so I want to make a bootable encrypted usb running ubuntu
[01:53] <recurry> I'm following these instructions
[01:53] <recurry> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EncryptedFilesystemsOnRemovableStorage
[01:53] <recurry> ..but it says I'm going to lose all my data
[01:54] <recurry> I'm confused
[01:54] <yahyaa> what app are u using to scan
[01:54] <recurry> I don't  understand?
[01:54] <SineTheCreator> yahyaa: install the 'hplip' package if it is not already
[01:54] <SineTheCreator> apparently that should help
[01:54] <SineTheCreator> also i never scan with mine
[01:55] <yahyaa> how do I do that
[01:55] <yahyaa> remember I am new to linux
[01:55] <SineTheCreator> yahyaa: open terminal. sudo apt-get install hplip
[01:55] <yahyaa> thats it ok
[01:55] <dr_willis> recurry:  backups are always a good idea...
[01:55] <recurry> better learn to do that first, but I don't understand how it is possible to make an encrypted booting usb
[01:56] <dr_willis> recurry:  ive never really tried.. or worried about it
[01:56] <yahyaa> it seems that it is already installed
[01:56] <recurry> but are you a linux wizard?
[01:56] <yahyaa> but y cant I get it to work
[01:56] <SineTheCreator> yahyaa: once that package is installed, delete the printer in system settings -> printers and reinstall it. this time select HPLIP as the print driver.
[01:57] <yahyaa> ok let me try that
[01:57] <dr_willis> recurry:  been using linux for years.. i havent the need for encrypted home/dirs/devices
[01:58] <recurry> have you ever had you laptop stolen?
[01:58] <recurry> I had accounts stolen off my stolen computer
[01:58] <guang> i have no /proc/net/wireless.
[01:58] <SineTheCreator> recurry: you can use luks and luksOpen to encrypt a usb drive i believe
[01:58] <recurry> but will it boot?
[01:59] <guang> i try to install wireless tools,but even i have installed it,it sill has no /proc/net/wireless
[01:59] <SineTheCreator> recurry: ahh. in that case i have absolutely no idea. you may need to have a separate partition on the stick.
[01:59] <zykotick9> dr_willis: encyrpted filesystems: required by 0.001% of people, used by much more ;)
[01:59] <recurry> ^
[01:59] <SineTheCreator> i keep all my really important stuff on an encrypted network drive
[02:00] <SineTheCreator> that way even if someone steals my home linux server they cant access the real stuff without my key
[02:00] <recurry> I had the fucking police reading my private journals
[02:00] <dr_willis> i keep mine  on a post-it-note on the wall.
[02:00] <recurry> really pissed off
[02:00] <recurry> this time I'm going to keep my shit encrypted
[02:01] <shape> dr_willis: I've just tried everything in various  online tutorial ccsm, vsync is enabled, etc. I even tried some old drivers just now and I still get tearing. :( It used to work about a year ago, I had no tearing. What am I left to do, driver hop?
[02:01] <SineTheCreator> recurry: if you really want to do that i recommend installing a full install of ubuntu and creating a separate partition you can use for your docs
[02:01] <SineTheCreator> alternatively, you can simply set /home to be encrypted.
[02:01] <SineTheCreator> i believe it will not decrypt until your password is entered at login
[02:01] <recurry> hmm just /home?
[02:02] <SineTheCreator> recurry: there ARE ways to encrypt / (root) but it's quite difficult to make it boot unless you have a partition or drive for /boot to 'kick it off' so to speak
[02:02] <recurry> ah
[02:02] <SineTheCreator> when the system is booted the kernel has to look for the key
[02:02] <SineTheCreator> getting that to work when the key is INSIDE your encrypted root partition is quite difficult. but possible.
[02:03] <SineTheCreator> unfortunately i don't know how to do it
[02:03] <SineTheCreator> i always just went with easymode. encrypted /documents partition :D
[02:04] <recurry> thanks
[02:04] <dr_willis> shape:  ive never found drivers to be the issue.
[02:04] <SineTheCreator> sure. sorry i couldnt be more help
[02:04] <RyuGuns> Hey...
[02:04] <yahyaa> i could not find the hplp driver
[02:04] <shape> dr_willis: so then with that options am I left with :(
[02:05] <dr_willis> shape:  try xbmc and the xbmc session. ;)
[02:05] <dr_willis> shape:  all ive ever had to do when using vlc was enable that v-sync in ccsm. and perhaps enable a filter on vlc.
[02:05] <RyuGuns> I was following the rust-lang tutorial and I typed "curl -0 http://static.rust-lang.org/dist/rust-0.6.tar.gz" into the terminal, then it just started spitting out random characters so I panicked and pressed Control+Z.
[02:05] <RyuGuns> Could someone explain what it was doing?
[02:06] <dr_willis> RyuGuns:  ctrl-c 'stops
[02:06] <dr_willis> RyuGuns:  ctrl-z sends to background. ;
[02:06] <RyuGuns> Really?..
[02:07] <dr_willis> RyuGuns:  it downloaded the file to the stdout  sounds like
[02:07] <trism> RyuGuns: it's an -O not a -0
[02:07] <RyuGuns> Oh...
[02:07] <RyuGuns> On the website it looked like -0, thanks a lot!
[02:07] <dr_willis> 0o0  <-- a fish. ;)
[02:07] <zykotick9> RyuGuns: you might want to try "fg" and see if it's still running
[02:07] <dr_willis> gotta love font mixxups
[02:08] <RyuGuns> Yeah, it was still running, thanks people.
[02:09] <shape> dr_willis: btw, I am running Xubuntu, and Xubuntu doesn't use compiz, would that make it more a Graphics card Issue?
[02:10] <zykotick9> shape: actually, i believe it's possible to run compiz in xfce as well.  yes, xubuntu/xfce doesn't by default.
[02:10] <dr_willis> shape:   hard to tell.  I rarely have tearing issues.. but i tend to watch anime/non hd videos
[02:11] <keithclark_> I just installed Ubuntu on a new home built machine but it just boots to a purple screen.  Nothing else.   Ideas?
[02:11] <shape> zykotick9: I am trying to fix HD video tearing and it's driving me nuts, already tried 6 nvidia drivers and I have tried enabling and disabling sync to Vblank, etc.
[02:12] <shape> dr_willis: np, I'll see what I can find to fix this :)
[02:13] <lotus-blade> is there an easy way to tell what version of ubuntu i have?
[02:13] <zykotick9> shape: honestly, i've always had tearing in Xorg :(  numberous nvidia (and some intel) gpus.  swithcing from dual monitors (of different resolution) to a single monitor helped a lot, but i still see some.  screen tearing is one of the arguments for the replacing of xorg.  good luck.
[02:13] <jrib> !version | lotus-blade
[02:14] <shape> zykotick9: I'm only on 1 monitor tho :(
[02:14] <keithclark_> maybe this is a uefi problem that is not possible to install ubuntu on?
[02:14] <shape> zykotick9: and replace it with what?
[02:14] <jackw> when 13.04 is going to arrive?
[02:14] <jackw> Can
[02:14] <jackw> Can't wait for it
[02:15] <zykotick9> shape: well, ubuntu is going to something there creating in-house called Mir.  the rest of the gnu/linux community seems to be going to something called wayland.
[02:15] <keithclark_> hello?
[02:16] <hrolf> Hey, is there anyway that I can log, all those commands that are run/executed in a terminal?
[02:16] <hrolf> With its time?
[02:16] <keithclark_> Anyone see me?
[02:16] <hrolf> I mean start time
[02:16] <zykotick9> keithclark_: no
[02:16] <bean> hrolf, check out snoopy
[02:17] <keithclark_> whew, I thought I was invisible
[02:17] <nurow> back in the day, I remember there was an application I used for palm ecognition on my click pad, and overall better functionality. anyone know what that might be?
[02:18] <shape> zykotick9: It seems wayland has been released since 2008, so I could change to it correct?
[02:19] <dr_willis> shape:  if wayland was in any way actually useable... ;)
[02:19] <zykotick9> shape: i'd recommend against trying to change away from Xorg.  More hastle then it's probably worth!
[02:19] <dr_willis> shape:  last i looked into wayland.. it was not in a state that normal people could use it
[02:19] <shape> dr_willis: yeah it seems so. Check my pm btw!
[02:20] <keithclark_> Anyone could help with a new uefi install?
[02:20] <dr_willis> i rarely even see pm messages ;)
[02:20] <seekanet> hey all
[02:20] <dr_willis> just how my clients/znc are setup
[02:20] <seekanet> Source: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick  - Does this mean just put the iso on theUSB, or extract the files within the iso on theUSB stick?
[02:21] <seekanet> NEvermind that! I didnt read itall
[02:21] <dr_willis> seekanet:  you IMAGE the iso onto a stick using a special tool normally
[02:21] <dr_willis> seekanet:  or use a special tool to put the files on the stick and make it bootable.
[02:21] <seekanet> Yes dr_willis  that was totally my fault I did not read. I shouldnt' dothat
[02:21] <taza> I want to install Ubuntu and wipe a device's partition table. However, I *know* for a fact that said device's hard drive has bad blocks.
[02:21] <taza> What should I do?
[02:22] <recurry> seekanet, you can't install ubuntu onto the usb from the same usb
[02:22] <keithclark_> Anyone?
[02:22] <dr_willis> taza:  prepare for hd failure in the near future?
[02:23] <taza> dr_willis: Mostly I want Ubuntu to not try to use said blocks
[02:23] <keithclark_> Is uefi just not installable?
[02:23] <taza> The system is only for internet use anyway.
[02:23] <shape> dr_willis: check pm again! :)
[02:24] <RyuGuns> Hai DangerOnTheRangr, long time no see.
[02:24] <DangerOnTheRangr> Hiya :)
[02:25] <RyuGuns> How is everyone in PAnda?
[02:25] <DangerOnTheRangr> Pretty good, though I haven't had time to idle there for a while, unfortunately
[02:25] <RyuGuns> :(
[02:26] <keithclark_> So is new hardware just not >Ubuntu friendly?
[02:26] <RyuGuns> DangerOnTheRangr: How is that game you were working on?
[02:26] <taza> dr_willis: I have a list of said bad blocks generated by badblocks, I just need to know how to keep the Ubuntu Installer from trying to use them.
[02:26] <dr_willis> keithclark_:  depends on the hardware.. Alienware now sales ubuntu-prenstalled pcs from what ive seen
[02:27] <keithclark_> dr_willis, yeah, it seems that affordable hardware is no longer Ubuntu friendly.
[02:27] <dr_willis> taza:  if they are all in one group/area - ive made partions that include the bad areas. and just make sure to not use that ares
[02:27] <DangerOnTheRangr> RyuGuns: It's coming along pretty well, but studies and stuff are taking up a lot of my time
[02:27] <keithclark_> dr_willis, Windows bound I guess
[02:27] <RyuGuns> DangerOnTheRangr: :( Alright, hope you have progress with that.
[02:27] <DangerOnTheRangr> Thanks :)
[02:27] <dr_willis> keithclark_:  my $35 raspberry pi is affordable and linux friendly. ;)
[02:27] <taza> Okay, asking generally: I have a list of bad blocks generated by badblocks. Any way to tell the Ubuntu installer about them to avoid using them?
[02:28] <keithclark_> dr_willis, yup...not for gaming though
[02:28] <taza> Good luck getting a $35 Raspberry Pi, or to get Linux running on it.
[02:28] <taza> ... Linux? Ubuntu.
[02:28] <keithclark_> dr_willis, I guess Linux is bound for pi type of hardware?
[02:28] <RageRiot> hi folks, I've just tried to install ubuntu but after reboot windows loaded. during the installation I was sure I chose the correct drive which contained the boot loader. I used a tool called boot repair to generate a report. http://paste.ubuntu.com/5706595/
[02:28] <dr_willis> taza:  :) i got 2 of them/.
[02:29] <taza> dr_willis: $65 where I am, and haven't even seen how to make Ubuntu run on it
[02:29] <dr_willis> My 2 yr old system does windows games decently well.  on linux and windows.  but i guess its the game
[02:29] <dr_willis> taza:  use rasbian. ubuntu arm dosent support the pis arm chip.
[02:30] <dr_willis> taza:  theres dozens of othe mini-arm gizmos out there also . if you dont have to hae a pi. ;)
[02:30] <taza> dr_willis: Raspberry Pi prices: $65 for one, $100 for 2.
[02:30] <guang> why i run command "iwconfig",all four interface shows no wireless extension?
[02:31] <dr_willis> taza:  you should be able to order them direct from england for less. ;)
[02:31] <taza> dr_willis: Those are the website prices.
[02:31] <taza> Well, dunno about the one copy 'cuz they don't show that to people who haven't logged in
[02:32]  * zykotick9 wishes raspberry pi's ran on all free/open driver/hardware... but they don't...
[02:32] <keithclark_> I guess the days of homemade pc's are over now for Linux.
[02:32] <taza> Me too. The Raspberry Pi makes a decent server, but the installing is so difficult and the binary blobs make security doubtful.
[02:32] <dr_willis> its being worked on i hear zykotick9 .. but who knows. the thing has only been out for like a year.
[02:32] <dr_willis> keithclark_:  i homemake mine all the time for linux.. im not sure what you are going on about
[02:33] <keithclark_> dr_willis, uefi
[02:33] <RageRiot> I was just going to say the same thing.
[02:33] <dr_willis> UEFI can work in linux
[02:33] <keithclark_> dr_willis, Will not allow Linux to run
[02:33] <Morph4me> keithclarke:  uefi  is supported in the linux kernel ....ubuntu 12.10
[02:33] <Morph4me> i have it running in this machine
[02:33] <RageRiot> I'm pretty sure manufactureres would get a shock when their hardware sales drop from linux users not making systems
[02:33] <taza> I trust Broadcom to not try to overtake my Pi, but I don't trust their binary blobs are secure enough.
[02:34] <dr_willis> https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Unified_Extensible_Firmware_Interface
[02:34] <dr_willis> seems like a good read on the topic. ;)
[02:35] <RageRiot> could my boot problem be due to UEFI? I'm running win 7 from an SSD, I just installed ubuntu but it booted to windows after installe
[02:35]  * zykotick9 use to think uefi was a bad thing - the uefi talk at libreplanet 2013 (video NOT online yet) changed his mind.
[02:35] <keithclark_> This uefi is a nightmare
[02:35] <dr_willis> installed it where?
[02:35] <RageRiot> a seperate HDD
[02:35] <Morph4me> if windows is installed using the uefi then ubuntu has to be installed using uefi
[02:36] <taza> I have a list of bad blocks generated by badblocks. Any way to tell the Ubuntu installer about them to avoid using them?
[02:36] <RageRiot> does win7 even suppor UEFI ?
[02:36] <dr_willis> RageRiot:  issue could be that 'secure boot' stuff.. but i dont know about it
[02:37] <dr_willis>  64-bit Windows Vista (SP1+), Windows 7 and Windows 8 versions support booting using UEFI firmware.
[02:37] <RageRiot> UEFI is still new to me. I reclll installing windows 7 the same way I always do.
[02:37] <zykotick9> taza: i think that's the drive's bios' job.  i doubt there is a way to tell the install about them (i also doubt there "should" be).
[02:37] <Morph4me> keithclarke not really just read your manual and set your bios accordingly
[02:37] <keithclark_> dr_willis, secure boot does not have an effect either.  Tried to turn it off
[02:37] <keithclark_> Morph4me, read the manual and applied.  Still no go
[02:37] <dr_willis> unplug the windows hd .. and see  if it boots.. :)
[02:37] <RageRiot> heh
[02:38] <dr_willis> One way to trouble shoot.
[02:38] <dr_willis> be sort of silly if all this time it was due to bios not wanting to boot the hd.. and that was the issue
[02:38] <dr_willis> or however uefi sets that boot item
[02:38] <RageRiot> yeh, secure boot is diabled. I read that this secure UEFI is only a worry when windows 8 onwards..
[02:38] <wcchandler> win7 supports uefi
[02:39] <RageRiot> by default ?
[02:39] <wcchandler> pretty much
[02:39] <wcchandler> depends on how you boot the windows installer.
[02:39] <Morph4me>  keithclark , what mobo do you have in your system ?
[02:40] <keithclark_> Morph4me, Asus F2A55-M
[02:40] <wcchandler> then it'll install it the uefi partition if it can...  which is the disappointing part of linux..  not of the big dogs seem to do it as intuitively as that.
[02:40] <Morph4me> uefi works great cuts the boot time way down
[02:40] <ivotkl> Hello everyone. =)
[02:40] <wilee-nilee> RageRiot, I would use the ubuntu forums make a thread and post the bootinfo summary.
[02:40] <Morph4me> keithclark ty
[02:40] <RageRiot> k
[02:41] <zykotick9> Morph4me: boot time is not the advantage of uefi, security is
[02:41] <Morph4me> yes that too
[02:41] <wcchandler> it also maps devices better and correctly, and more... logically.
[02:41] <Morph4me> added perk
[02:41] <keithclark_> zykotick9, only if you can actually boot
[02:41] <Morph4me> lol
[02:42] <wcchandler> security is not an advantage to uefi.  that really wasn't part of the initial protocol.  it was to be a replacement for bios, then people saw the perks of adding security features.
[02:43] <zykotick9> wcchandler: i'm pretty sure "signed boot" is fairly fundamental element to uefi, and that's the security i'm refering too
[02:43] <RageRiot> just to get my head around Somthing, during the ubuntu installer appart from selecting the drive to install ubuntu too. Do I select the boot loader drive or the boot loader partition( the part that windows boots from)
[02:43] <Pinkamena_D> Hello, I just tried to install the ati driver with this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=52JRCddtZLk It ended up saying on the second to last step "could not find compatable adapter"
[02:44] <Morph4me> keithclark if you haven't looked at this you might want to check this out      https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI
[02:44] <wcchandler> zykotick9: signed boot wasn't part of the original RFC for uefi
[02:44] <Pinkamena_D> Now, after a restart, I am left with a darker color screen and sluggish-er graphics
[02:44] <RageRiot> I'l look at that as well. :)
[02:44] <keithclark_> Morph4me, Yep, no luck
[02:44] <Morph4me> k
[02:44] <Pinkamena_D> All of the commands he did in the video are in the description
[02:44] <Pinkamena_D> Does anyone know how to reverse them?'
[02:44] <keithclark_> Morph4me, still boots to purple screen
[02:45] <Morph4me> keithclark are you dual booting win7 on that machine ?
[02:45] <Guest70591> hi every one
[02:45] <Pinkamena_D> I had the problem at the step he numbered "5"
[02:45] <Morph4me> if it's purple uefi is not set in the bios
[02:46] <Merkidemis> STUPID APT-GET! STOP TRYING TO USE IPv6
[02:46] <Guest70591> i need help whith my pinguy os
[02:46] <keithclark_> Morph4me, what do you mean set?
[02:48] <Guest70591> i cant update my OS
[02:48] <wilee-nilee> Guest70591, Not supported here you need #pinguyOS
[02:48] <ivotkl> Guest70591, What's wrong exactly?
[02:48] <Morph4me> keithclark your manual will tell you how to enable it ...if however you have win 7 in legacy mode set... know this that when uefi is then set windows will not boot
[02:48] <ivotkl> Oh, he/she had Pinguy...
[02:48] <ivotkl> *Oh, he/she has Pinguy...
[02:49] <keithclark_> Morph4me, no windows.  Raw system
[02:49] <Morph4me> k
[02:50] <zykotick9> wcchandler: really? that surprises me - thanks.
[02:51] <Morph4me> well if your mobo has the capability of uefi it's just a matter of enabling it ....on this asus z77 board it's rather simple
[02:53] <Guest70591> Could not download all repository indexes
[02:53] <keithclark_> Everything we try is just purple screen.
[02:53] <keithclark_> I'm going to assume that Ubuntu is just not compatible with new hardware anymore.
[02:54] <Guest70591> it is normal ?
[02:54] <dr_willis> keithclark_:  that assumption is incorrect.
[02:55] <dr_willis> you said you installed.. so it aparently did boot and ran..
[02:55] <keithclark_> dr_willis, nope, just installed.  Not running
[02:55] <dr_willis> You used the live-cd-desktop to install? if so - it did run
[02:55] <Morph4me> keithclark in your manual if you have it look under section 2.7 you will see the boot tab
[02:56] <dr_willis> it could be as trivial as grub is on the wrong hd..
[02:56] <keithclark_> dr_willis, yes, live CD ran.  Install did not
[02:56] <Morph4me> click csm on the list and set uefi to auto
[02:56] <dr_willis> if you have 2 hds/. i would try unplugging all but the linux hd.
[02:56] <Morph4me> leave secure boot to standard on the next screen it shows you from there
[02:57] <Morph4me> it's the same bios screen as mine
[02:57] <Morph4me> of course make sure you download the 64bit version of the ubuntu 12.10 os
[02:57] <keithclark_> Lost here, what to try next?
[02:58] <Morph4me> you have your manual ?
[02:58] <keithclark_> What manual?
[02:58] <shape> dr_willis: you here?
[02:58] <Morph4me> of the mobo
[02:58] <keithclark_> Yes, Windows oriented
[02:58] <shape> dr_willis: I fixed the tearing! what I did was add under Section "Screen":
[02:58] <keithclark_> No Linux info
[02:59] <shape> dr_willis Option         "TripleBuffer" "True" and then run sudo nvidia-xconfig --no-composite
[02:59] <lumbert> Hello.
[02:59] <Morph4me> i know im talking about your bios settings
[02:59] <shape> zykotick9: I fixed the tearing!   Just Windows?
[03:02] <thoonai> ping
[03:02] <dr_willis> pingu
[03:02] <keithclark_> Seems like Linux has a major new problem with uefi!
[03:02] <dr_willis> keithclark_:  more likely its either an issue with your specific hardware.. or you just dont hae a setting correct./
[03:02] <Morph4me> ok so i see where this is going ...stepping out of it ...goodluck keithclark  ...your maunal has the info and you just have to read it for it to work
[03:03] <thoonai> does it sounds normal that the debian (6.0.7) installer can't detect ubuntu luks crypted disks?
[03:03] <dr_willis> but it seems you want to argure more then listen. good luck
[03:03] <keithclark_> Morph4me, I've read the manual
[03:03] <Morph4me> dr.willis amen
[03:03] <shape> dr_willis: hmm I don't seem to find them, extra buffer you say?
[03:03] <wilee-nilee> keithclark_, Problem is the boot, the setups are different per manufacturers.
[03:03] <dr_willis> shape:  im on windows right now. i recall vlc having some advanced option. and showing of diffent filters
[03:04] <shape> dr_willis: yup I was looking through them but nothing extra buffer related
[03:04] <shape> dr_willis: wait let me print screen for you
[03:04] <dr_willis> vlc -> tools -> preferances  CHeck the 'all' button.
[03:04] <keithclark_> wilee-nilee, maybe but I don't seem to be able to find the solution.  Just purple screen
[03:04] <shape> dr_willis: yup already did that
[03:04] <lumbert> I have, what I assume, is a basic question. I'm trying to browse the contents of a CD in my CDROM. I've gone to /media/cdrom and run "ls -a" and "ls -l" but nothing is there regardless of what cd I put in the cdrom. the /media directory only has cdrom, no cdrom1/2/3/etc.  Anyone have any ideas? I know the cdrom works because I installed the OS using it.
[03:05] <wilee-nilee> keithclark_, Use the ubuntu forums, there are daily users there focusing on uefi.
[03:05] <dr_willis> shape:  i see motion blur.. but not sure what else i played with. ;)_ theres a lot of fun filters
[03:06] <keithclark_> wilee-nilee, yeah, probably easier for my Son to just buy Windows.
[03:06] <shape> dr_willis: yeah, that's the only one close I guess
[03:07] <keithclark_> uefi is the death of Linux
[03:07] <thoonai> keithclark_: don't hope so :)
[03:07] <keithclark_> thoonai, seems so
[03:07] <shape> dr_willis: but it's alright, it's watchable now, I don't have to boot into windows anymore to watch HD movies :)
[03:07] <thoonai> keithclark_: yeah your right, lets take torches and pikes
[03:07] <n-iCe> I think my fans are not working
[03:07] <shape> dr_willis: definitely the disablind of composite did the trick
[03:07] <n-iCe> laptop gets really hot since I installed ubuntu
[03:07] <thoonai> TORCHES AND PIKES!
[03:08] <n-iCe> how can I check?
[03:08] <keithclark_> thoonai, I wish it were like that
[03:08] <dr_willis> !fud | keithclark_
[03:08] <thoonai> keithclark_: who would not change his opinion if a mo with torches and pikes is coming?
[03:09] <keithclark_> dr_willis, well I have perfectly good hardware here with uefi the will not allow Linux to install.
[03:09] <dr_willis> keithclark_:  you havent really shown us that you have tried  most of the suggestions we have given..
[03:10] <dr_willis> you said it DID install. but is not booting the install.. 2 very differnt things
[03:10] <thoonai> dr_willis: my asus e45 board with freeDOS uefi doesnt want to boot linux either (except ubuntu live sticks < 11.04)
[03:10] <keithclark_> dr_willis, What do you require as proof?
[03:10] <dr_willis> one bit of hardware having isues does not prove that uefi is the death of linux.
[03:10] <thoonai> dr_willis, keithclark_ we should ,move over to #offtopic and let the support been done here
[03:11] <n-iCe> how can I activate my laptop fans?
[03:11] <dr_willis> thoonai:  ;) i just get sick of ranting
[03:11] <keithclark_> thoonai, but I require support!
[03:11] <linux_pinguy> hi pp
[03:11] <n-iCe> laptop us burning, and everything is running so slooooow
[03:11] <SonikkuAmerica> n-iCe: Are they plugged in
[03:11] <SonikkuAmerica> ?
[03:11] <n-iCe> SonikkuAmerica: is a laptop, yes.
[03:11] <thoonai> n-iCe: second
[03:11] <linux_pinguy> the best linux distro are Linux pinguy and linux cylon
[03:12] <n-iCe> indeed I thikn they are running, but very slow, I can hear like they are running
[03:12] <dr_willis> linux_pinguy:  i dont see much point in pinguy to even exist..
[03:12] <linux_pinguy> really
[03:12] <IdleOne> !ot
[03:13] <thoonai> keithclark_: hoo? support?
[03:13] <keithclark_> thoonai, help then?  Whatever it takes to get Ubuntu installed on an uefi machine
[03:13] <thoonai> keithclark_: sure ^^
[03:13] <SonikkuAmerica> n-iCe: What kind of laptop is this?
[03:13] <linux_pinguy> debian ubuntu is the best distro base
[03:14] <thoonai> keithclark_: no support is ok too, but FUD and ranting belong to #offtopic
[03:14] <thoonai> keithclark_: do you have a legacy bios mode?
[03:14] <keithclark_> thoonai, ok so I assume that uefi installs are offtopic now<?
[03:14] <thoonai> keithclark_: m(
[03:14] <dr_willis> again with the sillyness..
[03:14] <keithclark_> ?
[03:15] <IdleOne> keithclark_: ask a specific question, moaning about stuff and not stating what you have tried or what errors you are getting is offtopic.
[03:15] <keithclark_> IdleOne, When a fresh install boots to just a purple screen, what to do?
[03:15] <dr_willis> !nomodeset
[03:15] <keithclark_> IdleOne, No errors
[03:16] <thoonai> try tty1
[03:16] <IdleOne> keithclark_: I didn't say to direct all your questions at me.
[03:16] <dr_willis> You can also set it to boot to text mode keithclark_  and see if any messages/consoles work
[03:16] <dr_willis> !text
[03:16] <IdleOne> see the nomodeset info ubottu just gave
[03:16] <Morph4me> smell a troll ..trust me if he read the mobo  manual UEFI enabling is no issue ....section 2.7 ,but he has been told that
[03:17] <dr_willis> but.. you said it wasent booting.. if you see the plymouth/aniation.. it has booted..
[03:17] <zykotick9> n-iCe: install lm-sensors, and from a terminal type "sensors" do you see cpu/mb temps?  do you see fan speeds?
[03:18] <keithclark_> Morph4me, I did this stuff from 2.7
[03:18] <thoonai> someone using debian and ubuntu?
[03:18] <leptone> how do i add more work spaces?
[03:18] <n-iCe> zykotick9:
[03:18] <keithclark_> Morph4me, Why a troll?  I just want to get hardware that my Son bought to work.
[03:18] <dr_willis> leptone:  using Unity? Hmm. I think the ccsm tool/general tab.. had settings for that.. but  that may be the old skool way
[03:18] <thoonai> leptone: right click on the workspace bar and set in the properties
[03:19] <n-iCe> zykotick9: http://pastebin.com/eGP0T1Cr
[03:19] <thoonai> leptone: for gnome-shell
[03:19] <Morph4me> keithclark if after reading and wait it has pics of what to do and you still don't get it then yeah stick to windows you would be better off.... enough said
[03:19] <keithclark_> Thanks Morph4me
[03:19] <zykotick9> n-iCe: sorry i don't go to pastebin.com if you repaste to paste.ubuntu.com i'll go.
[03:19] <Morph4me> yw
[03:20] <leptone> dr_willis, yeah unity thanks!
[03:20] <thoonai> n-iCe: this is about 20 degrees to hot
[03:20] <leptone> thx thoonai as well
[03:20] <shape> zykotick9: Upon further research I've been reading that it's actually the XFCE4 compositing manager that is causing the problem. If I install ubuntu net install with openbox only do you think this problem will be solved?
[03:21] <dr_willis> shape:  or just 'sudo apt-get install openbox' and select it at the login screen....
[03:21] <dr_willis> shape:  or use any of the DOZEN other window managers out there. ;)
[03:21] <n-iCe> zykotick9: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5706670/
[03:21] <zykotick9> shape: well, openbox IS a windows manager, which replaces compiz 100%.  but for your specific case?  i have no real idea.
[03:21] <shape> dr_willis: yup, i3 and awesome are good too, etc.
[03:21] <dr_willis> shape:  xbmc even adds its own 'xbmc' session to give you a videoplyer desktp
[03:21] <dr_willis> I dont find awsome very awsome. ;)
[03:22] <shape> dr_willis: oh i see, I'll try that and see then, much easier :)
[03:22] <dr_willis> shape:  if you are big into videos. you may want to check out xbmc and that xbmc session
[03:22] <shape> dr_willis: yeah definitely, installing it now
[03:23] <n-iCe> zykotick9: what do you think?
[03:24] <dr_willis> night all
[03:25] <zykotick9> n-iCe: 70+ degree is highish for sure...  don't really have any suggestion for you, BUT my desktop is in the 38-60 range doing nothin' at all.  load average: 0.21, 0.18, 0.22
[03:25] <SpazTrooper> I need help
[03:25] <SpazTrooper> Please
[03:25] <zykotick9> SpazTrooper: ask your question - all on one line
[03:25] <keithclark_> As a side note, Ubuntu needs to find a solution to this 'uefi install' problem.  I have no choice but to go and buy Windows now because of this issue.  I'm sure I'm not alone.
[03:25] <nightdemon666> whats up spaztrooper?
[03:26] <moppers> it does intall on UEFI, what';s the problem?
[03:26] <keithclark_> moppers, purple screen on bootup
[03:27] <SpazTrooper> I am trying to boot windows 7 via USB. I am running Lubuntu on this computer. I have the .iso and I took instructions from the forums using Gparted but I keep getting "BOOTMGR missing"
[03:27] <nightdemon666> keithclark, are you sure that uefi isnt configurable to allow ubuntu install??? ive read many article explaining how to accomplish it successfully
[03:27] <SpazTrooper> What did I do wrong?
[03:27] <keithclark_> nightdemon666, on or off, same result. Purple screen
[03:27] <moppers> keithclark_, do you have the logos at the bottom?
[03:28] <keithclark_> moppers, nope
[03:28] <moppers> keithclark_, 64 bit?
[03:28] <SpazTrooper> *I am trying to boot Win7 on another PC from my Lubuntu
[03:28] <keithclark_> moppers, yup
[03:28] <IdleOne> keithclark_: if you are seeing the purple screen then Ubuntu is installed. the problem is not uefi it is your graphics drivers and you have not bothered to tell us what graphics card you have or tried the !nomodeset that was suggested.
[03:28] <wilee-nilee> SpazTrooper, How did you load the usb?
[03:29] <keithclark_> IdleOne, how to try the nomodeset?
[03:29] <IdleOne> !nomodeset | keithclark_
[03:29] <SpazTrooper> I used Gparted and formatted the USB to NTSF
[03:29] <SpazTrooper> Then Copy and pasted the .iso on the formatted USB
[03:29] <IdleOne> !usb | SpazTrooper
[03:29] <nightdemon666> hmm, spaztrooper... i remember booting win7 from a flashdrive before. i used a tool from a web site that described how to install win7 from an image that you would have already had the licence for.. i'll look it up now
[03:30] <wilee-nilee> SpazTrooper, All gparted does is make partitions, how did you get W7 on the usb, I assume that is waht you have done.
[03:30] <thoonai> help! debian doesnt recognize ubuntu crypted hdds - the ubuntu way of os sucks
[03:30] <SpazTrooper> All I did was take the .Win7 .iso and paste it in the NTSF USB
[03:31] <IdleOne> thoonai: ask #debian for debian support
[03:31] <moppers> i dont know of any tool to make a bootable win7 usb from within linux - the microsoft one doesnt run. and n you cannot copy/paste the win7 iso
[03:31] <SpazTrooper> grr
[03:31] <thoonai> IdleOne: I crypted the disks with #ubuntu ^^
[03:31] <keithclark_> IdleOne, which file to modify?  I see a lot of info but not the basics
[03:31] <lucasdeabreu> SpazTrooper, unzip it before and put on usb
[03:31] <IdleOne> thoonai: but you are having a problem with debian
[03:31] <wilee-nilee> moppers, Easily done.
[03:31] <SpazTrooper> Yes I did
[03:31] <IdleOne> keithclark_: read the wiki it tells you
[03:32] <nightdemon666> spaztrooper, what i did was use the  Windows 7 USB/DVD download tool in provided in this url link http://www.pcworld.com/article/248995/how_to_install_windows_7_without_the_disc.html. i suggest trying it to see if it works for you. it worked for me like a charm :)
[03:32] <keithclark_> IdleOne, what wiki?
[03:32] <IdleOne> !nomodeset > keithclark_
[03:32] <SpazTrooper> Ok thank you. I will try it and see if it works
[03:32] <SpazTrooper> Thanks
[03:32] <nightdemon666> :)
[03:32] <moppers> wilee-nilee, if you have info on making a bootable/installable win7 USB from an ISO in Linux, I'd be interested
[03:32] <lucasdeabreu> SpazTrooper, bootsect /nt60 I
[03:32] <thoonai> IdleOne: true, but #debian just ignores their 'special' installer ;)
[03:33] <lucasdeabreu> SpazTrooper, make ufb bootable
[03:33] <keithclark_> IdleOne, but you PM points to the same page.
[03:33] <lucasdeabreu> usb
[03:33] <SpazTrooper> IT twas bootable
[03:33] <IdleOne> keithclark_: the answer is on that page
[03:33] <moppers> wilee-nilee, i have tried DD'ing the iso
[03:33] <SpazTrooper> The flag was set to boot
[03:33] <keithclark_> IdleOne, Holy cow, I'm a simple guy here.
[03:33] <lucasdeabreu> u need faith soo
[03:33] <jmacc> Ola :)
[03:34] <IdleOne> keithclark_: there is no "magic" button. you're going to have to read some and learn a little.
[03:34] <wilee-nilee> moppers, Ntfs partition with a boot flag, extract it with archive manager to the partition.
[03:34] <nightdemon666> ah crap.. i missed the point of you doingit on lubuntu huh spaztrooper :( well, i suppose you could always do it from a VM running windows... for eample virtual box
[03:34] <keithclark_> IdleOne, I did and understand zero here.....what you have to be a techie to get Linux to work now with uefi?
[03:34] <moppers> wilee-nilee, have you tested that?
[03:35] <keithclark_> (sorry, very frustrated)
[03:35] <wilee-nilee> moppers, Many times works with W8 as well.
[03:35] <SpazTrooper> What does me being on Lubuntu do with it?
[03:35] <SpazTrooper> :?
[03:35] <SpazTrooper> lol
[03:35] <IdleOne> keithclark_: last time, your problem is not uefi. your problem if I may be blunt is you.
[03:35] <nightdemon666> lol, keithclark, my magic 8 ball points to "yes" you have to be a techie to get anything working in linux :P
[03:35] <keithclark_> IdleOne, ok, thanks\
[03:36] <SpazTrooper> Im running on a netbook...
[03:36] <keithclark_> nightdemon666, I see that\
[03:36] <lucasdeabreu> keithclark_, what's ur problem?
[03:36] <moppers> wilee-nilee, ok, looking at it
[03:36] <wilee-nilee> SpazTrooper, Your best with generating a bootinfo summary from the bootrepair tool to see what is where, then using a recovery or install W7 disc to fix it.
[03:36] <thoonai> nightdemon666: so my granny is a techie o.O
[03:36]  * thoonai is not sure about this
[03:36] <moppers> wilee-nilee, how ar you installing the boot loader though?
[03:36] <SpazTrooper> Ok, Im on a netbook. No CD drive or anything.
[03:36] <nightdemon666> spaztrooper, i realized that you said you were runninglubuntu, and werent tryingot get the win7 iso image to boot using a window os, but instead from the lubuntu os? true?
[03:37] <wilee-nilee> moppers, YOu don't have to the bootflag triggers the extract to boot.
[03:37] <moppers> wilee-nilee, marking it as boot flag in gparted etc, copy the files - you still need a boot loader, surely?
[03:37] <xzcvczx> SpazTrooper: go to nearest electronics store, buy a usb cd drive, do what you need to, return drive saying it wasn't compatible
[03:37] <Cache_Money> How would I be able to tell whether a specific cronjob is running?
[03:37] <wickedpuppy> keithclark_: try this section --> "How to temporarily set kernel boot options on an installed OS (not wubi)". See if it works
[03:37] <moppers> wilee-nilee, ok building an ISO
[03:37] <SpazTrooper> Yes, I need to make the bootable USB from my lubuntu to put on another netbook that will run the Win7
[03:37] <xzcvczx> Cache_Money: you can set it up to log, check the logs or if its currently running ps aux
[03:38] <Cache_Money> xzcvczx: It's currently running and I'd like to stop it and make a few changes (as the script will run for almost 6 hours)
[03:38] <Infinix> Why does my screen flicker when I run wine. I use Intel graphic card
[03:38] <nightdemon666> OR..... just simply run a windows image in virtualbox on your lubuntu install. run that tool i showed you in the link i provided (http://www.pcworld.com/article/248995/how_to_install_windows_7_without_the_disc.html) and install your win7 image to flash drive that way... yeah yeah, i know, its not fully dependent on lunix, yeah yeah i know its a long way about getting it to work, but its a way :P
[03:39] <xzcvczx> Cache_Money: then killall <name> or kill <process id
[03:39] <xzcvczx> >
[03:39] <keithclark_> IdleOne, your answer is for WUBI
[03:39] <thoonai> Infinix: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IVpOyKCNZYw
[03:40] <thoonai> does killall * works?
[03:40] <xzcvczx>  no
[03:40] <thoonai> why?
[03:40] <Cache_Money> xzcvczx: is this the right pid?  root       723  0.0  0.1  19104   992 ?        Ss    2012   1:27 cron
[03:40] <Cache_Money> Or is that a system cron?
[03:41] <xzcvczx> Cache_Money: thats the cron deamon, you need to look for what the cron script runs
[03:41] <nightdemon666> truely SpazTrooper, useing windows to perform some things is acceptable, you are after all attempting to accomplish a task that involves windows software, so let windows handle that job... thats the way i see it. as linus torvalds says, "use the best tool for the job" :)
[03:41] <Cache_Money> xzcvczx: I dont' see the file name/path when I run $ ps -ef
[03:41] <xzcvczx> nightdemon666: wow a torvalds quote that doesn't contain swearin
[03:41] <xzcvczx> g
[03:41] <xzcvczx> Cache_Money: are you sure its running then?
[03:42] <xzcvczx> cron is designed for jobs that run every x time periods then quit and are started again at the next time period
[03:42] <nightdemon666> lol, thats funny, i dont actually recall torvals quotes with swearing but funny that he does.. i have watched some of his videos, and such dry humor he has, but i dont remember swearing... im sure he does like the rest of us lol
[03:42] <Cache_Money> xzcvczx: maybe I didn't set it up properly.  How do I set up the cron to log?
[03:43] <xzcvczx> Cache_Money: there is plenty of documentation available on the google for that
[03:43] <Cache_Money> k
[03:44] <nightdemon666> um, "man cron" thats what i would do...
[03:44] <Infinix> Umm how does that help me fix my problem. There is only an Intel graphic card on my laptop.
[03:45] <xzcvczx> Infinix: what are you trying ot run in wine?
[03:45] <nightdemon666> infinix, sounds like a driver issue :/
[03:45] <DarthExpeditor> Anyone here use NetBean and Zend?
[03:45] <nightdemon666> graphics driver
[03:45] <nightdemon666> cant say that ive heard of those DarthExpeditor
[03:46] <DarthExpeditor> NetBeans is an IDE for development and Zend is a framework for PHP development.
[03:46] <xzcvczx> DarthExpeditor: are you sure this is the best place to ask and not on help site for zend or netbeans?
[03:46] <DarthExpeditor> Its all good. They have a room but no one is talking right now.
[03:46] <Infinix> So basically Intel graphic card driver keeps switching back to Vesa huh?
[03:46] <xzcvczx> that doesn't make this the right place to ask
[03:47] <nightdemon666> anyone else think that by tomorrow an update for Firefox<PHONE_NUMBER>0.1.0 will be popping up on your screen???
[03:47] <Infinix> Any way to fix graphic driver issue?
[03:47] <shape> OMG, did dr_willis leave? I really wanted to thank him for recommending me XBMC (Holy hell that XBMC session is so awesome), because now if I load up the xbmc session there is absolutely no tearing and rendering is completely like in Windows. It was definitely the xfce composing manager.
[03:47] <zykotick9> IdleOne: well sat is almost over, time for me to turn back into a pumpkin, and disappear.  you do a great job in #ubuntu :)  you deserve a !cookie (in #d they have beer ;)
[03:47] <xzcvczx> Infinix: what are you trying to run in wine
[03:47] <nightdemon666> seems like every 5 minutes another update comes out :/
[03:47] <thoonai> yeah again 30MB over dsl 100
[03:47] <shape> zykotick9: Hey, so I finally solved it for good with the xbmc session. Absolutely no tearing. It's definitely xfce fault since compiz is not even installed.
[03:47] <keithclark_> hmm...even booting from the onboard video does not work with Ubuntu
[03:48] <thoonai> nightdemon666: firefox is like a doomsday machine. updates kill my parents internetz
[03:48] <Betanu701> Hey guys, I am trying to get a basic script (to run rsync) at shutdown and startup. I have tried putting it in /etc/init.d and then running update-rc.d but it still will not run. and ideas?
[03:48] <nightdemon666> lol
[03:48] <Infinix> How come? Why can't it?
[03:49] <thoonai> are there rules for updates? like security-important-less ?
[03:49] <xzcvczx> thoonai: you apparently never had dialup
[03:50] <thoonai> xzcvczx: update via dial up? I went to university with my car to update
[03:50] <keithclark_> There just seems to be no way to install on a uefi enabled motherboard
[03:51] <keithclark_> Not without doing handstands
[03:51] <keithclark_> On one foot
[03:51] <xzcvczx> keithclark_: well i have a uefi enabled motherboard and it was simple
[03:51] <xzcvczx> keithclark_: if you look properly you will find the information
[03:51] <keithclark_> xzcvczx, well not here
[03:51] <xzcvczx> well as was referrenced earlier it seems to be a PEBCAK problem
[03:52] <keithclark_> xzcvczx, we are simple folk, not tekkies
[03:52] <kewel> I got my android phone attached to my lubuntu box with a usb cable .. how do I access it's sdcard?
[03:52] <thoonai> keithclark_: probably you should change your mobo
[03:52] <keithclark_> thoonai, yeah, to a much more expensive model....always money
[03:52] <SpazTrooper_> My internet died
[03:53] <thoonai> kewel: first select mass storage option on the phone, then it should pop up as a mass storage usb key
[03:53] <nightdemon666> brb
[03:53] <SpazTrooper_> I was saying I dont think I can run a VM on my OC
[03:53] <thoonai> keithclark_: what are you using now?
[03:53] <SpazTrooper_> PC
[03:53] <SpazTrooper_> Netbook
[03:53] <thoonai> your motherboards number
[03:53] <kewel> thoonai: checkin .. thx
[03:55] <thoonai> bye back to lab
[03:55] <SpazTrooper__> ..
[03:56] <keithclark_> SpazTrooper_, Asus F2A555-M
[03:57] <keithclark_> Sorry, Asus F2 A55-M
[03:58] <Betanu701> Hey guys, I am trying to get a basic script (to run rsync) at shutdown and startup. I have tried putting it in /etc/init.d and then running update-rc.d but it still will not run. and ideas?
[04:01] <PlastikSpork> Trying to get Google Chrome to open Deluge when clicking on Magnet Link... Right now it just opens up another Chrome Browser window.  So far I have tried this: http://tinyurl.com/8jc2us2 and http://tinyurl.com/d5odytc  I am running Lubuntu 12.04
[04:02] <wilee-nilee> PlastikSpork, Download the link and set deluge to read downloads
[04:04] <PlastikSpork> wilee-nilee: how do you set Deluge to read the downloads?  I've gone into deluge settings and clicked "Associate Manget links with Deluge"
[04:06] <wilee-nilee> PlastikSpork, Preferences-downloads tick auto add torrents to downloads.
[04:06] <wilee-nilee> not to from sorry
[04:10] <PlastikSpork> Ok but a magnet link is not a .torrent file... you don't download magnet links
[04:10] <wilee-nilee> PlastikSpork, Deluge will pop a gui to add it.
[04:12] <PlastikSpork> wilee-nilee, what you want me to do by adding .torrent files and have deluge automatically download them is not going to work with a magnet link. .torrent files and magnet links are completely different things
[04:13] <Seven_Six_Two> deluge can do magnet links
[04:14] <Seven_Six_Two> I just right click on magnet link, paste-as-text in add>>url
[04:15] <wilee-nilee> PlastikSpork, I'm using Firefox if I click on a magnet link it asks me what I want to open with I choose deluge and then you see this. http://imagebin.org/253935
[04:15] <wilee-nilee> chrome is not the only browser
[04:15] <PlastikSpork> Seven_Six_Two,  Yes doing it your way works, but I am working on someone elses computer and they are not very computer literate and your way is to complicated...
[04:16] <Seven_Six_Two> is that a deluge client? I thought it was all web-based interface
[04:17] <wilee-nilee> PlastikSpork, Cool, however I don't think you have to set the add torrent from just use FF pick deluge and add it.
[04:19] <PlastikSpork> yeah Firefox does work and ask me what app to use
[04:23] <Scotch`Slugworth> hmm, is it possible to do a install of ubuntu/kubuntu and tell it /not/ to format the partition?
[04:24] <Scotch`Slugworth> I would like to do a inplace install (move the old /home to /hombk). I just do not want to spend the time to pull /home from backup (its 600GB+)
[04:25] <Seven_Six_Two> Scotch`Slugworth, yes, do manual partitioning and you don't have to format your home
[04:26] <Scotch`Slugworth> Seven_Six_Two: its a flat partition do /home is in /
[04:27] <Seven_Six_Two> Scotch`Slugworth, oh, then I don't think you can. You have to format / during an install
[04:27] <martukas> Good evening, folks. I am having some trouble accessing a LUKS encrypted disk. Could anyone help out?
[04:27] <Scotch`Slugworth> Seven_Six_Two: arg. / is clean and fine, i just want to switch cleanly heh
[04:28] <Seven_Six_Two> Scotch`Slugworth, to a different distro?
[04:28] <Seven_Six_Two> Scotch`Slugworth, take the hit now. back up home and create a separate partition for it.
[04:28] <Scotch`Slugworth> Seven_Six_Two: from Gentoo, tried of the upgrade & package hell. No i would NOT be keeping user data live
[04:29] <Scotch`Slugworth> Seven_Six_Two: ive got it backed up, it just takes forever to restore it
[04:29] <Blue1> Seven_Six_Two: and dont forget /etc
[04:29] <thoonai> martukas: depends. tell me more, but I have still the same problem ;)
[04:30] <Seven_Six_Two> Blue1, depends on him. I don't back up /etc for a single user system.
[04:31] <martukas> well something got corrupted enough that it wont boot so I just need to get one file out, but I'm not sure how to mount it properly from console
[04:32] <martukas> the volume in question shows up on my desktop, but how do I know it's source address in /dev ?
[04:35] <thoonai> mount?
[04:36] <thoonai> you mount it twice, first the device, then the crypted containes afairc
[04:36] <martukas> yes, i know that - but how do i know what to mount?
[04:37] <martukas> what's the device name to supply as argument to cryptsetup?
[04:44] <thoonai> did you checked how many drives you have in /dev?
[04:44] <martukas> I have this thing on my desktop labeled "8.3 GB Encrypted". If I try to open it and enter the password for cryptsetup via gui it fails and I don't get any more detailed errors. To mount it via console I need to know the device id for it. Those desktop links lack any kind of "properties" and the stuff in /dev/disk is opaque  to me, so how do I identify the volume?
[04:44] <davf> Am I missing something or is Ubuntu 13(beta) nautilus dumping list view?
[04:45] <davf> Not detailed
[04:45] <davf> aka compact view
[04:46] <thoonai> use the programm 'disks' if u use unity just type it in the dash
[04:46] <nightdemon666> martukas, i think sudo fdisk -l command will help you
[04:46] <martukas> in /dev/disk/by-id I see over a dozen vbox harddrives with long hexadecimal ids thought i have only 2 images actually mounted in vbox
[04:46] <nurow> hmmm, how do I execute a sudo command on boot?
[04:46] <nightdemon666> well, which one is 8.3 encrypted? many?
[04:47] <nurow> I am having the on-going gpe13 bug reported here: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/887793
[04:47] <thoonai> martukas: uhm you should check for /dev/sd(a,b)
[04:47] <nightdemon666> nurow, what exactly do you mean by that?
[04:47] <nightdemon666> the sudo command on boot, like when the os has fully loaded?
[04:47] <martukas> none of them have that name :) i don't know how the gui generated that name
[04:48] <nurow> there is a kernal bug that casues my cpu to go crazy. the only way to stop it currently is to execute a command as root.
[04:48] <nurow> so I want that command to automatically run when I start my computer
[04:48] <martukas> ah that last command seemed to help thanks
[04:48] <nightdemon666> nurow, run the command in the rc.local file
[04:49] <nurow> thanks
[04:49] <XMLnewbi> I have a LifeCam NX-3000 for some reason skype doesnt reconize it
[04:49] <nightdemon666>  XMLnewbi, does your comoputer recognize it? can use it with cheese application?
[04:50] <XMLnewbi> im in vmware, and yes it reconizes it. I can google cheese
[04:50] <Pinkamena_D> does anyone know where to get the propriatary driver for a ATI M56GL [Mobility FireGL V5200] video card? Usual google searches don't seem to help. Is theira general database for this?
[04:51] <nurow> nightdemon666, if i need "sudo su" to execute, how do I give it those permissions in this file?
[04:52] <nightdemon666> dont bother googleing cheese, just simpley sudo apt-get install cheese. if the cam works, then it will work in cheese. if it works in cheese it "should" work in skype... a troubleshooting tip to use cheese to make sure the webcam is working in the os in general befoe blaming skype.
[04:52] <nightdemon666> nurow, first, why would you need sudo su?
[04:52] <nightdemon666> second, you need ot make sure that the file is owned by root
[04:52] <nurow> the command won't execute under sudo
[04:53] <nightdemon666> sudo chown user:group /path/to/file
[04:53] <nurow> hmmm
[04:53] <XMLnewbi> no device found in cheese, redeploy? looks like it should "just work" https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeWebCams
[04:53] <nurow> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/887793/comments/114
[04:54] <nurow> they seem to recommend a different method here, but I can't tell where this script is supposed to be placed?
[04:54] <nightdemon666> you can make user root, and group root... sudo chown root:root /path/to/file
[04:54] <nightdemon666> then execute command
[04:54] <nightdemon666> sudo chmod 0700 /path/to/file
[04:54] <nurow> is it in rc.local?
[04:54] <nightdemon666> it needs to be in rc.local
[04:55] <nightdemon666> /etc/rc.local i think
[04:56] <nightdemon666> XMLnewbi, thats why i suggested seeing if it would work in cheese... does the kernel see it? run lsusb or lspci and look for anything that looks like " LifeCam NX-3000"
[04:57] <martukas> after cryptsetup does its thing, I try to mount the result and get this - mount: unknown filesystem type 'LVM2_member'
[04:57] <mattclark> Hey, Im having a problem booting my Installed version of Ubuntu 12.10 LTC on a Asus F2 A55-M LK MotherBoard with a A6 AMD APU
[04:58] <mattclark> The computer itself boots fine, But it just gives me a Purple screen when I try to load Ubuntu 12.10
[04:58] <nightdemon666>  nurow, if you are not comfortable with command line, you can perform the same things via gui. sudo nautilus, then do it graphically :)
[04:59] <nurow> well, i'm confused as to which aspects of these instructions are to be performed manually in command line, and which sohuld be in that file
[05:00] <nightdemon666> what is the command nurow? the command that cures the cpu issue
[05:00] <valhalla_> what issue?
[05:00] <nurow> echo disable > /sys/firmware/acpi/interrupts/gpe13
[05:01] <nurow> valhalla, this issue: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/887793
[05:01] <nurow> lol
[05:02] <mattclark> Does any one know a solution?
[05:02] <wxl> ok folks, i'm looking to get a bcm4318 going in a live session. works on install with b43-fwcutter and the firmware (on a flash drive) and a restart, but i want to do it without a restart. modprobe b43 fails despite what the wiki says.
[05:03] <wxl> nightdemon666: gksudo nautilus, you mean, no?
[05:04] <valhalla_> anyone know when the next LTS is going to be released?
[05:04] <betrayd> mattclark: that issue has been addressed
[05:04] <wxl> valhalla_: 25 apr but https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases for future reference
[05:05] <wilee-nilee> valhalla_, About 12 and 1/2 months
[05:05] <valhalla_> wxl thanks!
[05:05] <betrayd> i can't recall where they posted the solution though,maybe swing by the forum, search
[05:05] <wxl> er not 25 apr duh
[05:06] <nightdemon666> sorry nurow, i think i managed to confuse my self on this one, i should have kept it more simple... i "think" you should be able to run that line of command at the bottom of the rc.local file. just open rc.local in gedit and paste that command "echo disable > /sys/firmware/acpi/interrupts/gpe13" root will run it at boot, and root owns the rc.local file anyway.
[05:07] <nurow> ok, cool, i'll try that
[05:07] <nightdemon666> wxl, i still run sudo nautilus. i havent had to run it as gksudo. i think running gksudo causes the password request to be displayed on gui screen where as sudo requests the password from command line
[05:08] <betrayd> nurow if there is an 'exit 0' in rc.local your command should precede that
[05:09] <wxl> nightdemon666: i guess i don't mess with nautilus on the command line. i just use, well, the command line. but mixing gui programs with non gui programs is generally bad news.
[05:10] <nurow> I wish ubuntu had a right-click -> run as su command
[05:11] <betrayd> i run Guake/yeahconsole and stay as root there
[05:12]  * betrayd drinks potofcoffee
[05:12] <nightdemon666> wxl, agreed. i prefer the command line interface as well... i tend to want to tell people to sudo vi /blah or cat /blah or what ever, but then i realize that many people on in this room are probably beginers and arent really interested in the cli. although ther are some, and i still continue to offer cli suggestions, i just tend to think, "what if they want to do it graphically" technically, you can perform certainn jo
[05:12] <nightdemon666> *jobs
[05:13] <martukas> an encrypted volume won't mount, producing - mount: unknown filesystem type 'LVM2_member' - if I google it I mostly find discussions on how to open fedora volumes of this type, which is not my case. Anyone have some ideas?
[05:13] <ntzrmtthihu777> hallo. anyone help me with getting mingw set up for cross-compilation from ubuntu to windows?
[05:13] <wxl> nightdemon666: and indeed if you're trying to speak to your audience, gksudo for graphical apps, e.g. sudo vi or gksudo gvim but not vice versa
[05:13] <betrayd> martukas: have you run lvm commands like vgchange, etc
[05:13] <betrayd> they are usually found in those fedora forums
[05:14] <betrayd> have to run those commands before attempting a  mount
[05:14] <nightdemon666> nurow, on the contrary, i DO NOT want that. thats just like a windows hting to do, and i'll bet many of exploit allow for malware to proliferate because of such option. best to keep the su-ing of command in the command line.. thats my opinion
[05:15] <martukas> but this was a xubuntu volume to begin with, created couple months ago with whatever encryption defaults offered during regular setup
[05:15] <nurow> i just find it a nuisance. I know its windowsy, but its not like they can't ever be right, lol
[05:15] <nurow> I mean... maybe it would be an option or a piece of software you could enable.
[05:15] <nightdemon666> nurow, i'll bet the ubuntu team will add it eventually...
[05:15] <nurow> for advanced users who know what they are doing
[05:15] <slinnky> is the BSD networking stack windowsy?
[05:16] <betrayd> martukas: an LVM is an lvm regardless of distro
[05:16] <slinnky> ubuntu should get rid of that crap
[05:16] <wxl> anywho, no one's remotely familiar with manually installing broadcom (b43) drivers without a restart?
[05:17] <ntzrmtthihu777> wxl: I've done it before, can you give me the lspci -nn for it?
[05:17] <nightdemon666> wxl, hate to argue that because it makes since, but then i'd wonder... "why type two more characters, and see additional graphics when i can accomplish the same thing slaving a virtual terminal???" lol, its all about preference :P
[05:17] <wxl> ntzrmtthihu777: it's a bcm4318 if that helps. so i know it's the b43 driver that's needed and there's no other driver for it, so there's no need to blacklist.
[05:18] <yahyaa> omg can someone please help me get my scanner working in kde???
[05:18] <nurow> i also don't understand why Unity doesn't seem to have the ability to browse through all apps on my computer.
[05:18] <nurow> i have to search..
[05:18] <slinnky> yahyaa, what scanner model?
[05:18] <ntzrmtthihu777> wxl: yeah, I'm almost certain I know what you need to do, but I would like to be sure it's the right broadcom before I point you in the wrong directions.
[05:18] <nurow> am i missing something?
[05:18] <wxl> nightdemon666: it's not quite about preferences. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo#Graphical_sudo
[05:19] <yahyaa> HP Officejet 6600 e-all in one
[05:19] <ntzrmtthihu777> nurow: install gnome-panel and get rid of unity, lo.
[05:19] <wxl> ntzrmtthihu777: right, so bcm4318 :)
[05:19] <nurow> yeah i've been a cinnamon person, but i just thought i'd give it a try
[05:19] <ntzrmtthihu777> wxl: not a clue. thats why I'm asking for the output of lspci -nn.
[05:19] <Lainey4214> I can't get youtube videos to play without crashing.
[05:19] <nurow> my cinnamon had been bugging out on me
[05:20] <wxl> ntzrmtthihu777: i'll boot the thing up but it's doubtful that you'll get anything different…
[05:20] <slinnky> yahyaa, what's wrong? it should be detected automatically
[05:20] <Lainey4214> I turned off hardware accelerator.
[05:20] <ntzrmtthihu777> nurow: I tried cin. once, acted prety funky.
[05:20] <nightdemon666> wxl, ah, that would be a difficult habit to break lol, thanks for showing me that :P
[05:20] <yahyaa> it works fine when I print, but when I try to scan it says that it can't find the scanner
[05:21] <martukas> pvs identifies the 'intermediate' mount produced by cryptsetup as belonging to volgroup 'xubuntu', which if I try to do anything else with (i.e. lvdisplay, vgscan, vgchange) it actually tackles my primary volumes running the OS, not the encrypted one
[05:22] <betrayd> lvdisplay should list the fullname  of the volume members, all of them
[05:22] <betrayd> then you can address by that name
[05:23] <Lainey4214> Can someone help me.
[05:23] <Lainey4214> ?
[05:24] <wxl> nightdemon666: 06:02.0 Network controller [0280]: Broadcom Corporation BCM4318 [AirForce One 54g] 802.11g Wireless LAN Controller [14e4:4318] (rev 02)
[05:24] <wxl> nightdemon666: oops addressed that at the wrong person :)
[05:24] <betrayd> !ask
[05:24] <superfreeflector> WHEN??????
[05:25] <betrayd> Lainey4214: ^
[05:25] <martukas> pvs gives me   /dev/mapper/encrypto1 xubuntu lvm2 a--   7.75g 32.00m which is correct, but if VG is 'xubuntu' then I should do lvdisplay /dev/xubuntu ? this one gives me references to my primary drive, not the one I'm after
[05:25] <superfreeflector> WHEN is 13.04 release????????
[05:25] <wxl> ntzrmtthihu777: 06:02.0 Network controller [0280]: Broadcom Corporation BCM4318 [AirForce One 54g] 802.11g Wireless LAN Controller [14e4:4318] (rev 02)
[05:25] <superfreeflector> TELL ME I MUST KNOW!!!! 13.04 release date! :D
[05:25] <wxl> superfreeflector: 25 apr
[05:25] <superfreeflector> this is worse than the xbox 1080 release!
[05:25] <superfreeflector> 12 more days!! NOOOO!!
[05:26] <superfreeflector> but thank you very much, wxl.
[05:26] <superfreeflector> i've been looking everywhere
[05:26] <wxl> superfreeflector: well not everywhere
[05:26] <sudoair> my ethernet connection doesn't work on a brand new installation of ubuntu
[05:26] <wxl> superfreeflector: case in point—
[05:26] <superfreeflector> i couldn't find it on the forums
[05:26] <wxl> superfreeflector: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases
[05:26] <superfreeflector> oh, duh
[05:26] <wxl> duh indeed.
[05:26] <superfreeflector> i was using search indians
[05:27] <superfreeflector> well, I DIDN'T KNOW :(((
[05:27] <superfreeflector> there was a wiki
[05:27] <superfreeflector> i'm only 10, leave me alone
[05:27] <ntzrmtthihu777> wxl: do you have an ethernet connection to use?
[05:27] <superfreeflector> so far, i've war-dialed 3 area codes :D
[05:27] <sudoair> my ethernet connection doesn't work, any tips?
[05:27] <ntzrmtthihu777> superfreeflector: well congratulations on adopting ubuntu so early, I wish I knew about linux when I was your age
[05:27] <wxl> ntzrmtthihu777: that's the whole concept, no. but i do have the firmware and b43-fwcutter on a flsah drive, if that's what you're getting at.
[05:28] <superfreeflector> i found a reality BBS system while war dialing
[05:28] <superfreeflector> like, real estate
[05:28] <superfreeflector> perhaps it wasn't a real estate BBS system at all... probably a front company for the intel agencies
[05:28] <ntzrmtthihu777> wxl: according to a askubuntu problem I found linux-firmware-nonfree will include what you need.
[05:29] <wxl> hm
[05:29] <superfreeflector> ok, enough tin foil hat talk. ever saw Signs movie?
[05:29] <ntzrmtthihu777> wxl: same exact model as you: http://askubuntu.com/questions/171427/wireless-isnt-working-in-12-04
[05:30] <superfreeflector> 12.04 is a lost cause, even 12.10 leaves it in the dust. and the 13.04 beta left 12.10 in the dust.
[05:30] <ntzrmtthihu777> superfreeflector: as much as I love your enthusiasm this is a support channel. if you want to just chat check out #ubuntu-offtopic
[05:30] <betrayd> !ot
[05:30] <superfreeflector> oh, sorry :/
[05:30] <wxl> ntzrmtthihu777: and now to find a .deb of it
[05:30] <superfreeflector> ok, and my rage quit is... KERNEL 3.8 IS AWESOME!!!! :D
[05:31] <ntzrmtthihu777> wxl: not too hard, need a hand?
[05:31] <wxl> ntzrmtthihu777: nope found it, thankfully. now we'll see what issues we have with deps.
[05:32] <ntzrmtthihu777> XD don't forget the modprobing
[05:32] <martukas> hey, so anyone knowledgeable about LVM, or maybe you know of a channel that may be more specialized in that sort of thing?
[05:32] <sudoair> can someone help me get my ethernet connection to the internet working? i'm using a fresh install of ubuntu and its not working
[05:33] <ntzrmtthihu777> sudoair: lspci -nn should give you a clue.
[05:33] <sudoair> what kind of clue?
[05:33] <wxl> sudoair: a good one.
[05:34] <sudoair> i see my ethernet controller
[05:34] <sudoair> REaltek Semiconductor Gigabit Ethernet controller (rev 06)
[05:34] <ntzrmtthihu777> sudoair: identifying names. google search for that, and see if you don't find exactly what you need
[05:35] <Vivekananda> hey everyone a question. What does -- exec $SHELL -l mean ?
[05:35] <Vivekananda>  when I type it in ubuntu on cli
[05:37] <wxl> ntzrmtthihu777: you rock. i'll make sure to edit the wiki.
[05:37] <guest-YdKMtw> Hi, Igo
[05:37] <guest-YdKMtw> t got this issue'
[05:37] <ntzrmtthihu777> wxl: what wiki?
[05:38] <guest-YdKMtw> I couldn't login to my account
[05:38] <ntzrmtthihu777> and thank yah, I try :D
[05:38] <guest-YdKMtw> with my password
[05:38] <wxl> ntzrmtthihu777: the b43 wiki. it fails to mention that possibility, though it does suggest to grab b43-fwcutter and the firmware. having the firmware in a package is a HUGE improvement as i had to hunt down the most recent firmware and the way it's written, the wiki will easily go out of date.
[05:39] <guest-YdKMtw> when i enter the password it reopens the boot page making me enter password again
[05:40] <wxl> guest-YdKMtw: probably wrong password, honestly. you can try to hit ctrl-alt-f1 and see if you can login there. if not, then it's probably your password. btw, you can get back to where you were with ctrl-alt-f7
[05:40] <betrayd> martukas: are you sure it's not /dev/mapper/xubuntu or something
[05:40] <ntzrmtthihu777> wxl: ah, gotcha. edit away, and I hope you do well
[05:41] <wxl> Vivekananda: http://www.basiclinuxcommand.com/linux-command/exec.html
[05:41] <guest-YdKMtw> if i give wrong password it sows
[05:41] <martukas> no I had cryptsetup put it exactly there, thats why the name is so weird :)
[05:41] <guest-YdKMtw> shows that
[05:41] <psamim1> Hi everyone, How can I install a newer version of curl on my ubuntu 12.04 precise? Thanks.
[05:41] <wxl> guest-YdKMtw: so try logging in via the virtual terminal with ctrl-alt-f1. let's make sure, first.
[05:42] <mac> hy, people...  i downloaded one archive with CR OS LINUX I686-2.4.1290.raw .. raw? what to do?
[05:42] <sudoair> alright heres whats fucked up, 64bit version of linux makes my ethernet not work
[05:42] <sudoair> but 32bit version works
[05:42] <mac> hy, people...  i downloaded one archive with name "CR OS LINUX I686-2.4.1290.raw" .. raw? what to do?
[05:43] <sudoair> WHYyYyy
[05:43] <psamim1> Hi everyone, How can I install a newer version of curl on my ubuntu 12.04 precise? Thanks.
[05:43] <guest-YdKMtw> I could see the terminal wxl
[05:44] <wxl> psamim1: just download it and put it in ~/bin until ubuntu ocmes out with a new version.
[05:44] <mac> !curl
[05:44] <wxl> guest-YdKMtw: what version are you using?
[05:44] <guest-YdKMtw> when i give user and password
[05:44] <guest-YdKMtw> 12.04 wxl
[05:44] <mac> WXL?
[05:45] <psamim1> wxl: thanks for reply! so you mean I cannot use another version! hm?
[05:45] <guest-YdKMtw> naa his nickname i mentioned
[05:46] <wxl> psamim1: you have to go through a lot of trickery to use older/newer versions. so just install it local in the interim. or find a ppa if you feel you can trust that.
[05:46] <wxl> guest-YdKMtw: did it used to work before? or is this a new install?
[05:46] <ntzrmtthihu777> mac: run file CR yada yada and it will give you a clue
[05:46] <guest-YdKMtw> till yesterday at office i was working
[05:47] <wxl> guest-YdKMtw: have you done any updates?
[05:47] <mac> tnx.. i go google this..
[05:47] <guest-YdKMtw> in guest session too i cant give that password
[05:47] <guest-YdKMtw> no updates
[05:47] <wxl> omg don't go google yada yada that won't help
[05:48] <mac> no?
[05:48] <wxl> guest-YdKMtw: ok, here's a thought, then: maybe try some updates. you can do this in that virtual terminal.
[05:48] <wxl> mac: um, no.
[05:48] <mac> any other idea?
[05:48] <mac> maybe?
[05:48] <wxl> mac: do what he said. run the file.
[05:49] <guest-YdKMtw> But even for updates it asks for password, don't you think wxl
[05:49] <mac> ok, i will go goolgle it how :)
[05:49] <sect0r> anyone recommend a good clipboard manager?
[05:49] <wxl> guest-YdKMtw: yes but your problem is lightdm or something, not your password. we figured thta out.
[05:49] <wxl> mac: double click on it!
[05:49] <wxl> sect0r: i like clipit.
[05:49] <guest-YdKMtw> if it doesn't take password it won't update right
[05:50] <sect0r> i'll check it out thanks
[05:50] <mac> unpackit first, right? out of tar.gz
[05:50] <wxl> guest-YdKMtw: the virtual terminal liked it, right?
[05:50] <ntzrmtthihu777> mac: I though you said it was .raw
[05:50] <wxl> mac: yep
[05:50]  * wxl facepalms
[05:50] <mac> yes, it is... inside
[05:50] <guest-YdKMtw> yes wxl
[05:51] <wxl> guest-YdKMtw: so once you're inside the terminal, you can run updates happily with your password
[05:51] <mac> open with shotwell??
[05:51] <wxl> mac: try it
[05:52] <betrayd> ah I see it mistook RAW for a photo/camera shot
[05:52] <betrayd> thats why it wants to open in shotwell
[05:52] <mac> wtf is raw?
[05:52] <betrayd> those hi -rez photos
[05:52] <wxl> mac: maybe more importantly, wtf is this darn file you're messning with?
[05:53] <mac> darn file?
[05:53] <wilee-nilee> !language
[05:53] <wxl> hahahahah
[05:53] <wxl> let's not say shoot either, folks.
[05:53] <wxl> golly, no.
[05:53] <betrayd> darn tootin
[05:53] <wilee-nilee> acronyms are not allowed
[05:53] <dodo3773> wxl: I think it was for "wtf"
[05:54] <wxl> OMG
[05:54] <wxl> it could have been what the filibuster, no?
[05:54] <wxl> i won't argue this any further, but you're splitting hairs.
[05:54] <mac> i wished to try out google chrome os in oracles vm... :(
[05:54] <mac> i gues it is another fail..
[05:55] <wilee-nilee> wxl, There is no arguement this is a family channel we just ask you respect that, ;)
[05:55] <betrayd> mac so you probably double-click and 'Use another application to run this file'
[05:55] <betrayd> and make it point to your oracle vm thing
[05:55] <mac> ok.. with what?
[05:55] <dodo3773> mac: What's the problem you're having?
[05:55] <wxl> oracles vm is called virtualbox. do you have it installed, mac?
[05:55] <mac> yes..
[05:56] <wxl> mac: and furthermore, raw is not a filetype virtualbox understands, typically.
[05:56] <mac> aha..
[05:56] <mac> crap
[05:56] <dodo3773> mac: Which download did you do?  Down by the bottom virtualbox images
[05:59] <mac> i tryed one Vanila people gaved me here.. didnt work (32bit linux)
[06:00] <wxl> mac: did you try http://chromeos.hexxeh.net/download/vanilla?version=3996.0.2013_04_13_1739-rabe5f462&type=virtualbox
[06:00] <wxl> that's the latest version that's meant to work with virtualbox
[06:00] <dodo3773> Hmm how to not split links when pasting in irc?
[06:00] <mac> wow.. nice
[06:00] <wxl> http://is.gd/bRRaov
[06:01] <mac> now.. i have a 32bit 12-04 lts.. will work this ?
[06:01] <betrayd> dodo3773: run it through a url shortener like is.gd or goo.gl
[06:01] <wxl> you should have no problem
[06:02] <wxl> dodo3773: indeed, what betrayd said. in irssi, yash is nice.
[06:02] <betrayd> but your chat client might have a plugin for that already
[06:02] <dodo3773> wxl: betrayd: Yeah I got that. I was wondering if there was a way to do it specifically in irc
[06:02] <wxl> dodo3773: irssi+yash.
[06:02] <dodo3773> wxl: I spent the last week setting up weechat so no more irssi for me
[06:02] <ntzrmtthihu777> wxl: info on yash, if you don't mind? I run irssi inside of screen, so it happens to me at times.
[06:02] <wxl> dodo3773: but, no, typically no irc server is going to do it ofr you.
[06:02] <dodo3773> wxl: Ah okay.
[06:02] <betrayd> weechat +1 dodo3773
[06:03] <betrayd> i use it too
[06:03] <mac> can anyone please tell me if this is version for 32bit comp? http://chromeos.hexxeh.net/download/vanilla?version=3996.0.2013_04_13_1739-rabe5f462&type=virtualbox
[06:03] <wxl> ntzrmtthihu777: http://www.miiro.com/code/irssi/yash/
[06:04] <leptone_> trying to follow this tutorial for netflix http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tfte5su5DIA and seeing these errors http://paste.ubuntu.com/5706877/
[06:04] <dodo3773> betrayd: I used irssi for quite a while on the "if it's not broken don't fix it" principle but decided I wanted to use something that was still actively developed
[06:04] <wxl> mac: just go try it.
[06:05] <betrayd> dodo3773: i d/loaded the urlshortener (in ruby) from weechat scripts
[06:05] <betrayd> works like a charm
[06:05] <mac> yeah.. that whats i whose afraid of... got bad connection
[06:05] <wxl> i'd love to go weechat but i need a few days or weeks to get it set up :)
[06:05] <dodo3773> mac: oh so you need a 32 bit build? Let me look
[06:06] <mac> dod3773 winner
[06:06] <leptone_> on 64 bit 12.04  im trying to follow this tutorial for netflix http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tfte5su5DIA and seeing these errors http://paste.ubuntu.com/5706877/
[06:06] <wxl> dodo3773: i already looked and it wasn't apparent that they have both options
[06:06] <jason552> What would cause this error message "FATAL: Module ndiswrapper not found." I need to enable a USB adapter.
[06:06] <dodo3773> jason552: do you have ndiswrapper installed?
[06:07] <dodo3773> wxl: it may say somewhere though. Better than wasting the bandwidth
[06:07] <betrayd> wxl maybe if you need serious windowing like 2x4 or 2x2 layouts, the main reason i moved from irssi
[06:07] <wilee-nilee> leptone, The tor PPA stopped at oneric no precise support
[06:07] <jason552> dodo3773: no candidate from repositories.
[06:07] <ntzrmtthihu777> test of yash: http://is.gd/waZ7EO
[06:07] <wxl> betrayd: that's my plan, eventually.
[06:07] <betrayd> ah
[06:07] <leptone__> wilee-nilee, sry what?
[06:07] <betrayd> good plan, need vacation time =)
[06:08] <ntzrmtthihu777> ahh, very nice, thankya
[06:08] <wxl> ntzrmtthihu777: you could have at least /shay'd something fancy :)
[06:08] <wilee-nilee> leptone,  Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/ubun-tor/ppa/ubuntu/dists/precise/main/binary-i386/Packages  404  Not Found   is not supported by oneric
[06:08] <wilee-nilee> sorry precise
[06:08] <ntzrmtthihu777> wxl: other concerns atm than being fancy. trying to set up a cross-compilation environment for SFML projects.
[06:09] <leptone__> so can i need to find a dif place to get the PPA?'
[06:10] <wilee-nilee> leptone__, You need to remove it, not sure if there is another you have a couple of other 404 not found
[06:10] <dodo3773> jason552: Have you read this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper
[06:10] <mac> i need some answers.. i am loged on gnome.. do i use it? if not how? and where can configure screen saver?
[06:10] <jason552> dodo3773: that's what im on now.
[06:11] <dodo3773> jason552: Oh okay. Did you find it just now? Or is that what you've been using?
[06:11] <jason552> dodo3773: that's what i've been using.
[06:12] <dodo3773> jason552: Oh I see
[06:12] <betrayd> martukas: the only thing i can think of is pick one (forum) site that deals with both lvm AND the encryption, the commands there all work in ubuntu...following names can be tricky without knowing your exact layout
[06:12] <konecktd_> test
[06:12] <konecktd_> hello
[06:12] <dodo3773> konecktd_: test back
[06:12] <konecktd_> thnx
[06:13] <wxl> alright i'm out of here. thanks for showing me how to google ntzrmtthihu777 :)
[06:13] <jason552> dodo3773: It says hardware present: but I can't go further.
[06:14] <dodo3773> jason552: Not sure. I don't have an aweful lot of experience with ndiswrapper. You loaded the module and plugged in your device and that's when you came across this error?
[06:14] <robk> I was in the process of setting up pam.d w/ ldap on a machine I'm playing around with. I can no longer log into the machine. When i go into recovery mode on ubuntu and type in the original username, it just kicks me out of the prompt and back into login.
[06:14] <jason552> dodo3773: yes
[06:15] <robk> how would I go about reconfiguring the root password? I originally never set one since I did everything from sudo, that was a mistake.
[06:15] <dodo3773> mac: almost done downloading it. will try to see if the builds are 32 or 64
[06:15] <jason552> dodo3773: after "sudo modprobe ndiswrapper"
[06:15] <mac> thank u, very much!!
[06:16] <dodo3773> welcome
[06:16] <dodo3773> jason552: that's when you get the error?
[06:16] <jason552> dodo3773: yes
[06:17] <dodo3773> jason552: So you've got the driver (windows driver gets shoved into ndiswrapper?)
[06:18] <jason552> dodo3773: yes
[06:18] <jason552> dodo3773: ndisgtk that is
[06:21] <dodo3773> jason552: Okay so you pointed ndisktk to the windows driver file and it installed it?
[06:22] <dodo3773> jason552: Maybe the card has to be pulled out and plugged back in and / or the module reloaded or something?
[06:23] <dodo3773> jason552: yeah I'm not much help on this issue. I haven't had a driver that the kernel or kernel + firmware couldn't handle yet
[06:24] <jason552> dodo3773: lucky you. I'm plagued with issues.
[06:25] <shape> Does anyone know what might happen if I ssh from my android home to my ubuntu desktop and try to run nautilus or firefox?
[06:25] <Userr> bitcoin distro is more popular that ubuntu
[06:25] <dodo3773> jason552: Yeah. What's this device anyways?
[06:25] <dodo3773> jason552: So I can never ever ever but it ;)
[06:25] <dodo3773> jason552: But seriously what is it?
[06:25] <dodo3773> mac-AFK: still there?
[06:26] <dodo3773> what's user-AFK mean?
[06:26] <jason552> dodo3773: brand new custom build.
[06:26] <dodo3773> jason552: Oh it's an internal laptop component or something?
[06:26] <shape> dodo3773: Away from Keyboard
[06:27] <mac> here
[06:27] <jason552> dodo3773: oh, network card? i thought you ment system.
[06:27] <dodo3773> shape: Oh right like that movie I see
[06:27] <dodo3773> dodo3773: Oh no I meant the device you can't get working. Congratulations though on the custom built computer
[06:28] <dodo3773> mac: Okay I have the file. I extracted it. Just need to find out the arch Ill boot it up
[06:28] <mac> arch?
[06:28] <mac> another virtual mashine?
[06:28] <mac> different version?
[06:30] <dodo3773> mac: The architecture of the virtualbox image I mean. whether its 32 or 64. That's what you wanted to know right?
[06:30] <mac-crossedFinge> rs-< | yeas and thank u very much..
[06:31] <mac-crossedFinge> rs-< | those it work ?
[06:33] <mac-crossedFinge> rs<- | some versions i tryed.. i whose able to boot it, but cant log in.. no mather what.. :)
[06:33] <mac-crossedFinge> whose/was?
[06:34] <SecretFire> anyone have the same problem? I am running 12.10 and have nvidia, and randomly get logged off?
[06:34] <l_r> is the release date of 13.04 confirmed?
[06:34] <SecretFire> 25th
[06:34] <l_r> no delays?
[06:34] <mac-crossedFinge> ouch, that suks.. to be loged off any moment :/
[06:34] <SecretFire> the calendar said it was the deadline
[06:35] <dodo3773> mac-crossedFinge: just need to figure out the default password. at the top of the build it said x86 so I think we're good.  :D
[06:36] <SecretFire> ah
[06:36] <mac-crossedFinge> sorry..
[06:36] <SecretFire> np
[06:36] <dodo3773> mac-crossedFinge: Yep. i686.
[06:37] <mac-crossedFinge> but.. i am sure, people here are allready working on your problem
[06:37] <mac-crossedFinge> wait..
[06:37] <dodo3773> mac-crossedFinge: so 32 bit. i686 is 32 bit. As long as your processor supports that
[06:37] <mac-crossedFinge> hm.. i got hp compaq 6710b
[06:38] <Betanu701> Hey guys, I am trying to get a basic script (to run rsync) at shutdown and startup. I have tried putting it in /etc/init.d and then running update-rc.d but it still will not run. and ideas?
[06:38] <dodo3773> mac-crossedFinge: What does uname -a tell you?
[06:38] <mac-crossedFinge> rs<- | terminal?
[06:39] <dodo3773> mac-crossedFinge: Of the computer in question. Yeah in a terminal
[06:39] <mac-crossedFinge> Linux Z-I-O-N 3.2.0-40-generic-pae #64-Ubuntu SMP Mon Mar 25 21:44:41 UTC 2013 i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux
[06:39] <dodo3773> mac-crossedFinge: See ^^ i686 same as virtualbox image
[06:39] <dodo3773> mac-crossedFinge: You're good to go. Go for it
[06:40] <mac-crossedFinge> can u please paste me the link again? i whose given 3 different ones...
[06:40] <dodo3773> mac-crossedFinge: Yeah sure
[06:40] <mac-crossedFinge> correction... 2
[06:41] <mac-crossedFinge> wt*? am... those sites that contains malware? damage linux?
[06:41] <dodo3773> mac-crossedFinge: http://chromeos.hexxeh.net/ go down to the picture of virtualbox and click the icon and it will take you to download. after it finishes extract the zip file and load it in virtualbox
[06:42] <mac-happy> dodo3773, thank u, very much.. if u drink.. u got a virtual beer in good :)
[06:43] <mac-happy> version? latest?
[06:43] <dodo3773> mac-happy: Hahaha. Nah I gaev up drinking years ago. Thanks though ;)
[06:43] <dodo3773> mac-happy: I grabbed latest but grab whatever you want
[06:43] <dodo3773> mac-happy: Write this down in case you need to switch to a tty to login: username:chronos password:facepunch
[06:44] <dodo3773> mac-happy: Its the default password ^^
[06:44] <mac-happy> uuu... deep :)
[06:44] <mac-happy> thank u
[06:44] <dodo3773> welcome. I am grateful to be of service to you my friend. Have a great night
[06:44] <dodo3773> later everyone take care
[06:45] <mac-happy> its morning!
[06:45] <mac-happy> sunday.. and still stoned from yesterday..
[06:45] <Betanu701> Depends on where they are located^_^
[06:45] <mac-happy> god ****
[06:45] <mac-happy> :)
[06:45] <dodo3773> mac-happy: haha. I see right. Well every one have a "good {morning,day,night}"
[06:46] <raju> bash or ksh ? which one is the best one >
[06:46] <mac-less-happy> 16h to download complete
[06:46] <raju> *?
[06:46] <dodo3773> raju: zsh
[06:46] <vsum> raju: for what purpose ?
[06:46] <mac-less-happy> u 2 :)
[06:47] <mac-less-happy> every1 shell enyoj what thay do.. or stop doing it :/
[06:47] <dodo3773> raju: zsh is better than everything. It's pretty much the greatest application period I found all year last year. I can't sing it enough praise seriously
[06:47] <mac-less-happy> eee... while i am at that subject...
[06:47] <dodo3773> raju: Of course that's just my opinion. vsum question is relevant though. depending on what your using it for (scripts init etc)
[06:47] <contrapunctus> raju: .in?
[06:48] <mac-less-happy> what is the zeitgeist plugin for???
[06:48] <mac-less-happy> :)
[06:48] <mac-less-happy> i know zeitgeist.. but plugin?
[06:48] <raju> dodo3773, ok I am just trying to use it for scripting.
[06:48] <raju> vsum,  scripting
[06:48] <raju> contrapunctus,  in Ubuntu
[06:49] <dodo3773> raju: Then it doesn't matter really. You can decide whatever shell you want your scripts to run with in the shebang line at the top
[06:49] <vsum> raju: scripting for what purpose ? general admin ? or seriuos programming ?
[06:49] <raju> vsum,  I am learning it with some programming language , you can consider me as a medium level programmer .
[06:50] <ayu_> hello
[06:50] <dodo3773> ayu_: hey
[06:50] <raju> vsum,  my friend what do you suggest for admin too ?
[06:50] <vsum> bash is widely used , so I would suggest to start with .
[06:51] <histo> raju: bash is more widely used
[06:51] <dodo3773> raju: My suggestion was for a user shell. Like if you pretty much live in the shell sort of thing.
[06:51] <Betanu701> How can I get a script run at startup and shutdown. I have already added it to /etc/init.d and did update-rc.d still won't run
[06:51] <dodo3773> raju: will the scripts be run on a linux system?
[06:51] <raju> vsum,  ok cool . you mean bash for both (admin,programmer )
[06:51] <rawrish> anyone care to answer a random off the wall question, but related to those that are of intelligence ?
[06:52] <raju> histo,  yeah usually and the default shell is bash only but i have gone through the name of ksh today .
[06:52] <dodo3773> Betanu701: Is it an init script?
[06:52] <raju> dodo3773, yes in a Ubuntu Linux machine
[06:52] <raju> rawrish, ask it , we give our best.
[06:53] <helmut_> hi
[06:53] <Betanu701> dodo3773: It is a .sh script, basically running rsync to my computers
[06:53] <histo> Betanu701: if it's not an init script try /etc/rc.local
[06:53] <histo> Betanu701: Do you want it to just run on startup or on a time based interval?
[06:53] <rawrish> raja alright…so I'm on the search for a forum or channel of intellectuals, something or a place that people discuss ideas that push the norm of what is acceptable ideology
[06:53] <rawrish> be it philosophy or science
[06:53] <rawrish> weird i know...
[06:53] <rawrish> but i can't write a #bash script for this lol
[06:54] <histo> !alis | rawrish
[06:54] <Betanu701> hist: I want it to run at start up and when I shutdown.
[06:54] <dodo3773> Betanu701: If it's not an init script then don't put it in *init* directory. Could be very problematic for you. /etc/rc.local is where that stuff goes like histo said
[06:55] <dodo3773> Betanu701: From there you can call your script externally if you need to
[06:55] <Betanu701> How would I go about calling it externally?
[06:55] <dodo3773> Betanu701: or if it isn't too complex just add it there
[06:55] <histo> Betanu701: Betanu701 you could use upstart to call it on shutdown and startup also
[06:56] <histo> Betanu701: https://synapse.wordpress.com/2007/03/24/run-a-script-on-startup-shutdown-in-linux/
[06:56] <dodo3773> Betanu701: Seriously. I've had to chroot in and fix systems because they wouldn't boot because of bad hand made init scripts in the past
[06:57] <Betanu701> dodo3773: Oh I have had to do that alot. lol
[06:57] <histo> Betanu701: I would suggest using cron though to avoid the problems like dodo3773 is describing
[06:58] <dodo3773> Betanu701: Externally? Like putting a script within a script. just put the /path/to/your/script.sh make sure you don't do ~/script.sh or $HOME/script.sh go like /home/username/script.sh instead
[06:58] <Betanu701> I attempted cron, problem is I do not want this computer (the main database)
[06:58] <Betanu701> on all the time
[06:59] <dodo3773> Betanu701: If you need to put multiple stuff in there make sure you remember "&"
[06:59] <mac> dodo3773, thank u.. again
[06:59] <histo> Betanu701: right just have it run your script like every hour when it's on with cron
[06:59] <dodo3773> Betanu701: I'm outta here though. Take care
[06:59] <dodo3773> mac: your welcome. take care
[06:59] <Betanu701> Thanks
[06:59] <mac> 14h to complete.. u too
[06:59] <Betanu701> have a good night
[06:59] <mac> have a nice.. whatever?
[06:59] <mac> :)
[07:01] <histo> !away > martukas
[07:01] <Betanu701> Histo: do you know if I place it in rc.local will it run at shutdown as well?
[07:01] <histo> Betanu701: no only startup
[07:02] <histo> Betanu701: the only way to do what you want is to use upstart
[07:02] <Betanu701> I am reading the site you gave me to try and do it
[07:03] <histo> Betanu701: I'm trying to find a more usefull site for you atm
[07:04] <Betanu701> histo: Haha thanks, been working on this for probably 7 hours
[07:04] <raju> hey friends one more question . what exactly going to happen If i have removed the .profile file ?
[07:04] <histo> Betanu701: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpstartHowto
[07:05] <histo> raju: copy a new one out of /etc/skel/
[07:06] <lonejack> Hi, passed to 12.04(from 10.04). Unity OK. I was watching on synaptic. There are a lot of gnome-* packages. Can I remove them?
[07:07] <raju> histo,  I mean how my shell behaves
[07:07] <wilee-nilee> lonejack, Why would you want to, what is your goal here?
[07:07] <raju> histo,  nothing is there in the directory , its just example.desktop
[07:07] <Betanu701> Histo: I keep getting this I will call it an error  System start/stop links for /etc/init.d/backup.sh already exist.
[07:07] <histo> raju: there is a .profile in /etc/skel
[07:07] <raju> wilee-nilee,  hey
[07:07] <wilee-nilee> hey
[07:08] <raju> histo,  I cant see anything here.
[07:08] <histo> Betanu701: aparently there is already a job for that script
[07:08] <histo> raju: ls -a /etc/skel/
[07:08] <raju> histo,  aah! I understand now . hidden file.
[07:09] <histo> raju: or just cp /etc/skel/.profile ~ && chown raju:raju ~/.profile
[07:09] <Betanu701> but there is nothing that shows up in any of the rc*
[07:09] <histo> Betanu701: well remove the job first
[07:10] <lonejack> wilee-nilee, to clean the house. The sping is near(at least in europe)...
[07:11] <raju> histo,  got it & so every time we modify the .bashrc and .profile of home user , are these files will be updated automatically or they just stood to default
[07:12] <wilee-nilee> lonejack, To be honest that makes no sense. unity is a plugin in compiz running on top of gnome, I would not touch them. If you want to remove or exchange full desktops there is a website with correct lists to do so. See playing around in  this link. http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/
[07:12] <histo> raju: those are default skeleton files that are copied to a home directory when a user is created
[07:13] <tozen> hi all where is mc config now? there is nothing in to ~/.mc
[07:13] <raju> so they wont update right ?
[07:13] <raju> histo,  cool friend .
[07:14] <histo> raju: right they will not update. You can make changes to the skeleton files and then any new user added would get the new files
[07:14] <lonejack> wilee-nilee, I was not aware about that. I'll not touch anything. Thank you
[07:16] <raju> histo,  yeah its clear now . Thank you.
[07:19] <rabbi1> i got macbookpro and installed ubuntu 12.04 on virtualbox.  Everything works good, except the USB is not detected in the ubuntu.. any suggestion…. USB is displayed under devices menu in the VB but greyed/ unable to select
[07:19] <guy555> hello, question about alsa-daily build, is this correct channel?
[07:20] <shape> rabbi1: when you press settings USB > Enable USB controller
[07:20] <shape> rabbi1: when the machine is off
[07:20] <phix> hey, I want to use  memcached from within LXC guests, should I run it on the host and configure the guests to use it or configure it on all guests?
[07:20] <rabbi1> nope, machine is running
[07:20] <wilee-nilee> rabbi1, You would ad it in the settings of vbax-usb off the main vbax gui where you start the installs.
[07:21] <phix> (all of the guests are "trusted")
[07:21] <shape> rabbi1: you need to turn it off first
[07:21] <rabbi1> shape: under usb devices i can see my USB detected, but unable to select/ deselect
[07:22] <guy555> latest alsa-daily build won't install, any suggestions?
[07:22] <shape> rabbi1: power off the machine then go Settings > USB
[07:22] <rabbi1> shape: yeap, doing it
[07:22] <wilee-nilee> guy555, This a PPA, you have any errors?
[07:22] <shape> rabbi1: and then see if Enable USB 2.0 Controller is ticked.
[07:23] <wilee-nilee> guy555, I meant is this a ppa
[07:23] <histo> rabbi1: usb inside of vbox?
[07:23] <guy555> yes it seems to be contingent on an i686 install but i think it recognizes my system as i386
[07:23] <phix> so any ideas gang?
[07:23] <guy555> it is from a ppa, yes
[07:24] <rabbi1> shape: yeah, it wasn't checked, i did it… now got to install extension pack.. Is it out to be downloaded separately ?
[07:24] <wilee-nilee> guy555, That should not matter what are the errors oyu are seeing, is it being held for install?
[07:24] <wilee-nilee> you*
[07:25] <rabbi1> histo: yeap, brb
[07:25] <shape> rabbi1: yes you need to install the separate extension pack
[07:25] <guy555> wilee-nilee: (im on precise) it said ready to install from update manager, but it won't install, also tried manually yesterday before update came
[07:26] <wilee-nilee> guy555, Can you link me to the PPA?
[07:27] <IR8481> hi
[07:27] <guy555> wilee-nilee: ppa:ubuntu-audio-dev/alsa-daily
[07:27] <IR8481> i need to find a chat for APPLE stuffs
[07:27] <IR8481> any idea?
[07:28] <shape> rabbi1: btw it's super easy make sure you get the extension pack for your version of Virtual box from their website, double click it and youre' done
[07:28] <bazhang> !alis | IR8481
[07:28] <rabbi1> shape: yeap, searching
[07:28] <wilee-nilee> guy555, Can you pastebin a sudo apt-get update from the terminal?
[07:28] <shape> rabbi1: I can help you what virtual box version you have? Help > About
[07:29] <IR8481> no, in this server there s no channel related to it
[07:29] <rabbi1> 4.2.10
[07:30] <guy555> wilee-nilee: not familiar with pastebin, sorry, lol
[07:30] <wilee-nilee> !paste | guy555
[07:30] <bazhang> IR8481, ask in #freenode for help
[07:30] <rabbi1> shape: i use mac so, its not under help > about…. ;)
[07:30] <histo> IR8481: there are plenty of apple channels on this server
[07:30] <shape> rabbi1: this is the one you need :download.virtualbox.org/virtualbox/4.2.10/VirtualBox-4.2.10-84104-OSX.dmg
[07:30] <wilee-nilee> guy555, Just copy and paste all the text from that command run in the terminal, and post the url here.
[07:31] <guy555> ok
[07:31] <shape> rabbi1: shit sorry dont lcick that
[07:31] <Bodsda> shape: watch the language please
[07:31] <IR8481> for example...
[07:31] <shape> Bodsda: I apologize
[07:31] <Bodsda> ty
[07:31] <shape> rabbi1: THIS IS IT: download.virtualbox.org/virtualbox/4.2.10/Oracle_VM_VirtualBox_Extension_Pack-4.2.10-84104.vbox-extpack
[07:31] <shape> rabbi1: now all you need to do is have virtualbox open and click that file from the link I gave you
[07:33] <histo> IR8481: Do you have a ubuntu mac related question?
[07:33] <IR8481> not really
[07:33] <shape> IR8481: I knew some channels where I asked some mac questions wait
[07:33] <bazhang> !ot | IR8481
[07:33] <IR8481> i need a good one
[07:33] <IR8481> all right all right!
[07:33] <rabbi1> shape: thank you, starting vb - ubuntu
[07:33] <rabbi1> hope it works
[07:34] <guy555> wilee-nilee: http://pastebin.com/aeKP4MD6
[07:34] <histo> IR8481: /j #help if you want to learn how to use irc not here.
[07:34] <rabbi1> shape: and i have another problem of permission every time i start OS from vb… every single time i need to change permission for my /Application folder.. wondering what
[07:34] <IR8481> how to use.... of course, that is exact what im looking for
[07:34] <shape> IR8481: macrumors
[07:35] <shape> IR8481: irc.krono.net on channel #macrumors.
[07:35] <rabbi1> shape: same problem again, can't enable usb
[07:35] <shape> rabbi1: did you go into settings and enabled USB 2.0 controller?
[07:36] <histo> rabbi1: /j #vbox
[07:36] <rabbi1> shape: yeap i did
[07:36] <wilee-nilee> guy555, Was there any text past the end after Reading package lists... Done besides your user@user:~$
[07:36] <guy555> wilee-nilee: no
[07:37] <amit`> Is there support for AMD A10-5800k APU on ubuntu? Does this OS support GPU and audio ?
[07:37] <wilee-nilee> guy555, A regular update does not show a upgrade of anything, when you open update manager always run a check before installing.
[07:38] <chunkyhead> guys, what's ubuntu git?
[07:38] <auronandace> !git | chunkyhead
[07:39] <truexfan81> there is a guy in #debian asking if the AMD A10-5800k APU drivers are included in the latest ubuntu
[07:39] <guy555> wilee-nilee: do you want me to paste the error log from the failed update?
[07:39] <wilee-nilee> guy555, sure.
[07:40] <chunkyhead> does it come preinstalled or we have to install it auronandace
[07:40] <guy555> wilee-nilee: http://pastebin.com/bVDuNXzd
[07:40] <amit`> truexfan81: That was me. It seems like there is no true support yet but drivers have to be compiled from sources.
[07:41] <truexfan81> ^
[07:43] <truexfan81> amit`: imo the hardest part of compiling is getting all the necessary dependencies to get a successful compile, once you have those its pretty easy, so maybe these guys can tell you what deps you will need
[07:43] <wilee-nilee> guy555, Not sure honestly, why do you have this ppa, ppa's can be unstable. I have never had a problem, however i'm careful what I add to my sources.lists
[07:43] <amit`> truexfan81: The driver asked for fglrx or something similar.
[07:44] <Aaron> That's why you always check the ppa status of the package,
[07:45] <guy555> wilee-nilee: well, it was a long story of troubleshooting sound problems, i thought that ppa was ok though, never had any problems until this one, and it's the only one i've added right now
[07:46] <truexfan81> amit`: is it wanting the actual fglrx? or the -dev package? sorry i can't really help, i've always used nvidia with linux
[07:46] <wilee-nilee> guy555, I see people on the channel with sound problems on occasion, I can't really give you a definitive answer, maybe others can. ;)
[07:46] <amit`> truexfan81: Yes, it is asking for fglrx, which is a dependency.
[07:46] <histo> !fglrx | amit`
[07:47] <guy555> wilee-nilee ok thanks, i think that it won't install because it is looking for my system arch to be i686 when it probably shows up as i386
[07:50] <tokern3> when someone has windows and download ubuntu how make sure the downloaded file is complete? they can't use md5 yes?
[07:50] <shape> tokern3: correct, it's very easy
[07:51] <tokern3> but can they do md5 in win7?
[07:51] <shape> tokern3: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM
[07:51] <shape> tokern3: scroll down to MD5SUM on Windows
[07:51] <truexfan81> tokern3: you can use md5, also i believe the boot menu on the disc or usb will have a checker that you can run, it will tell you if its bad
[07:51] <wilee-nilee> !md5sum | tokern3 Yes
[07:51] <tokern3> is there a way to check it in windows7
[07:52] <wilee-nilee> yes read the bots links
[07:52] <shape> tokern3: I just pasted you the link man, check the link I showed you and scroll down and you will see how to do it in windows 7
[07:52] <tokern3> thanx shape
[07:53] <shape> tokern3: there is nothing to worry about if you follow the instructions it's like 5 clicks or something, super easy
[07:53] <truexfan81> well i'm gonna close this tab, cya later
[07:53] <kewel> update manager won't let me install any updates because one of the is unauthorized.
[07:54] <kewel> what to do?
[07:54] <richwn> hey hey, anyone able to spare a minute? this is gonna be a fast 'its gonna work or not' one
[07:55] <MonkeyDust> !ask | richwn
[07:56] <kewel> ya .. audacious is linked to untrusted sources
[07:56] <kewel> I'm trying to install like 190 updates
[07:56] <kewel> ne1?