[00:06] <Phoenixz> Nobody on the X crash when configuring multiple monitors?
[00:12] <seattlegaucho> question to the community
[00:13] <seattlegaucho> Using kubuntu 9.04 and enabled desktop effects ... however Ctrl+F8 through Ctrl+F10 stopped working ... any ideas where to look for clues or how to fix it?
[00:14] <seattlegaucho> already restarted kde and the OS a couple of times for different reasons with no change on the desktop effects
[00:16] <Typos_King> can't say myself
[00:17] <Typos_King> no to mention I don't use kwin anyhow as window manager.... sooo my key-bindings differ much :)
[01:59] <phdp> I'm very new to KDE, where can I get info on my computer (processor, RAM, ...) ?
[02:05] <iconmefisto> phdp: open konsole, and type: lshw <enter>
[02:05] <iconmefisto> phdp: or install kinfocenter
[02:05] <phdp> thanks !
[03:04] <wujs> kkk
[03:04] <wujs> ls
[03:04] <wujs> ls
[03:04] <maco> wujs: what are you doing?
[03:34] <lucitu> kdevelop rc3 debs anywhere in the ppa?
[03:46] <jacob_> hello, I have an ati radeon X800, and under System Settings->Desktop Effects it says "Compositing not supported". Could someone please help me to identify the problem? I can not find a compatability list saying this card doesn't support compositing, so I think there is a system error somewhere
[03:50] <jacob_> Anyone have any idea where I should even start?
[03:57] <jacob_> does no one have any idea?
[04:11] <pm2> I'm on Kubuntu 9.10, and just recently Youtube told me to "go upgrade" my flash player.  Is there a solution for this for amd64?
[04:23] <ubuntu> Hey i am running this in my virtual box :)
[04:59] <navetz> is there a iTunes like media player for linux?
[05:21] <marta__> ola a todos
[05:21] <marta__> preciso de amigos
[05:21] <genii> !pt | marta__
[05:21] <marta__> falam portugues ao menos?
[05:22] <marta__> i dont like brazilian
[05:24] <genii> marta__: You can ask here in english ... there is also the Portuguese specific channel of #ubuntu-pt
[05:37] <vivek_> I have aproblem with Kopete.. I am able to connect to my yahoo account using Kopete.. can see all my frds added there, can receive mesages from them , but cant send any messages,... I mean I send messages ,.. but they dont receive it...
[05:40] <xiven> How much modification is required to integrate a QT application into Kubuntu?
[05:48] <vivek_> I have aproblem with Kopete.. I am able to connect to my yahoo account using Kopete.. can see all my frds added there, can receive mesages from them , but cant send any messages,... I mean I send messages ,.. but they dont receive it...
[05:51] <BuddhaBomb> what in the world
[05:55] <vivek_> I have aproblem with Kopete.. I am able to connect to my yahoo account using Kopete.. can see all my frds added there, can receive mesages from them , but cant send any messages,... I mean I send messages ,.. but they dont receive it...
[06:12] <vivek_> I have aproblem with Kopete.. I am able to connect to my yahoo account using Kopete.. can see all my frds added there, can receive mesages from them , but cant send any messages,... I mean I send messages ,.. but they dont receive it...
[06:21] <vivek_> I have aproblem with Kopete.. I am able to connect to my yahoo account using Kopete.. can see all my frds added there, can receive mesages from them , but cant send any messages,... I mean I send messages ,.. but they dont receive it...
[06:56] <iconmefisto> vivek_: still there?
[06:57] <vivek_> iconmefisto:yes buddy how are you.. iam stuck up with something new ths time
[06:57] <iconmefisto> the kopete problem?
[06:57] <vivek_> iconmefisto:yeah
[06:58] <iconmefisto> I don't have a solution :( just a question. do your friends all use windows yahoo clients?
[06:59] <vivek_> iconmefisto:almost all.. at least the women do.. lol and that does matter
[06:59] <iconmefisto> vivek_: so some are using kopete like you?
[06:59] <vivek_> iconmefisto: not some.. only one and that is me :-)
[07:01] <iconmefisto> want to try sending me a message, kopete to kopete? just to see what happens?
[07:01] <iconmefisto> pm me and we can add each other
[07:03] <vivek_> ok
[07:06] <vivek_> iconmefisto:please wait a second adding
[07:12] <Borg^Queen> hi people, I'm not using kubuntu, but I am (for the moment) using another kde centric distro and I need help. As it seems the devels for this distro have disappeared. When I plugin a usb drive, it no longer appears in kwikdisk (or fstab). We are using hotplug (I know, old) it was working fine up until 5 hrs ago. Does anyone have any idea what, if any middle app is used to modify the fstab?
[07:14] <genii> Borg^Queen: Perhaps try #kde channel for generalized assistance
[07:15] <Borg^Queen> genii: been there
[07:16] <Borg^Queen> waited for 5 hrs,
[07:16] <genii> Borg^Queen: Alternately find a distribution which also uses kwikdisk (like mepis)
[07:16] <Borg^Queen> genii: looking into it now, but doesn't resolve the problem at hand.
[07:17] <Borg^Queen> kubuntu has kwikdisk as well, just need to add it
[07:17] <Borg^Queen> are you happy with it, kubuntu?
[07:18] <genii> Borg^Queen: Yes, it works well for me.
[07:19] <Borg^Queen> how do you like kde4 ?
[07:19] <Borg^Queen> I'm guessing it used kde4 now
[07:19] <vivek_> KDE4.4.2 is great
[07:19] <Borg^Queen> lol thank you vivek_
[07:20] <genii> Borg^Queen: I'm getting used to it. I had 3.5 for a long time.
[07:20] <vivek_> you are welcome Borg^Queen:
[07:20] <Borg^Queen> I was a heavy debian using for 4 years but it became too obsolete
[07:20] <Borg^Queen> genii: currently on 3.5.x
[07:21] <Borg^Queen> What I want is a kde centric distro with a real community, and a collection of rude people
[07:21] <Borg^Queen> I know it sounds silly but I don't want to send a noobie into a channel where they will be abused.
[07:22] <Borg^Queen> I recycle computers and donate them to children, the elder and home bound, these people are very sensitive
[07:23] <genii> Borg^Queen: If these computers are somewhat lower specs you may want to consider a lighter desktop than kde4 (such as xfce or so)
[07:23] <Borg^Queen> P3s and P4s
[07:24] <Borg^Queen> Decent ram, they run the distro I'm using now with full KDE 3.5.x, no difficulties
[07:24] <Borg^Queen> for really old stuff, I use puppy
[07:24] <genii> Yes, thats a good choice
[07:24] <Borg^Queen> Its got bite!
[07:25] <genii> We grow offtopic from Kubuntu support .. :) Luckily it's slow here at this time.
[07:25] <Borg^Queen> anyway I'll see what I can do about fixing my problem on my own. I've emailed bero, the founder, about it.
[07:25] <Borg^Queen> aye, I don't believe a channel should be so topic ridged but aye.
[07:26] <genii> Borg^Queen: Which distribution are you currently on?
[07:26] <Borg^Queen> Ark Linux, I've been using it for years, but our lead dev has disappeared and they rest of us are just learning.
[07:27] <Borg^Queen> Its a great distro but outdated now and only bero knows the deeps workings
[07:28] <Borg^Queen> another reason I'm considering abandoning it as well
[07:29] <Borg^Queen> but I want a kde centric distro
[07:30] <genii> Ubuntu/Kubuntu/Xubuntu has a very active community
[07:30] <Borg^Queen> aye, but are they friendly, as I said, the people I deal with are always wounded by society.
[07:31] <genii> Borg^Queen: We're here being friendly to you, are we not?
[07:31] <Borg^Queen> Oh terribly mean
[07:31] <Borg^Queen> lol
[07:32] <Borg^Queen> I'll let it go for night, it late. Tomorrow I'll dl and test kubuntu as well as do research on a replacement. Either way, thank you for your time.
[07:33] <genii> Borg^Queen: You're very welcome, have a good night
[07:33] <Borg^Queen> gn to all
[07:33] <Borg^Queen> gn genii
[07:33] <Borg^Queen> gn vivek_
[07:55] <bluebird> hi there! any body know this bug - When i use PolicyDialog and enter correct su password, window shaking and authorization failed, in log.auth - authpam_unix(polkit:auth): auth could not identify password for [user]???
[07:58] <bluebird> hi there! any body know this bug - When i use PolicyDialog and enter correct su password, window shaking and authorization failed, in log.auth - pam_unix(polkit:auth): conversation failed  authpam_unix(polkit:auth): auth could not identify password for [user]???
[09:21] <binary_> Sup guys?
[09:27] <binary_> Nobody here today :/
[09:29] <moetunes> most just idle until someone asks something binary_
[09:30] <binary_> Well then how about I ask something?
[09:30] <binary_> Ati Drivers on kubuntu wtf?
[09:30] <binary_> why so hard?
[09:31] <moetunes> what's hard about it? - I don't do ati
[09:32] <moetunes> there's a link to a howto for setting it up binary_
[09:32] <moetunes> !ati
[09:33] <binary_> Hah no I got it installed. I was just being sarcastic. I actuall had to uninstall the default drviers and install the proprietary ones to enable compositing.
[09:33] <binary_> actually*
[09:33] <moetunes> ahhh :]
[10:25] <levar> i am new to kubuntu. How do i install firefox
[10:25] <levar> and recieve the updates
[10:29] <levar> how do install firefox
[10:32] <GNU\colossus> levar: iirc, there's even a menu icon that automagically does that.
[10:32] <GNU\colossus> under Applications → Internet, if I'm not mistaken
[10:33] <levar> its not for me
[10:47] <jussi> levar: open konsole. then type: sudo apt-get install firefox
[10:51] <levar> also i would like to install kynaptic.
[10:51] <levar> which i do not have
[11:08] <kennethaar> Hi
[11:09] <kennethaar> Clicking on links in thunderbrid doesn't make a link open in firefox. Default webbrowser is set to firefox. But it wont work anyway.
[12:44] <godrisk> ?
[12:44] <markit> !
[12:45] <shadeslayer> !?
[12:56] <edi_99> Hi guys. All of the sudden, my wireless just stopped working - it was working just fine uptill now. Everything KNetworkManager does is trying to connect and constantly asking
[12:56] <edi_99> for a passphrase (which is 100% correct). I did an upgrade earlier, but it wasn't working even before that. Any hints on what I should do? I tried to reinstall as it was advised
[12:56] <edi_99> in one of the posts in the ubutnu forum, but no luck.
[12:56] <FloodBotK1> edi_99: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:56] <edi_99> Sorry about the flooding.
[13:28] <hp> hhhhhhi
[13:28] <hp> hhhi
[14:07] <appleseed> hello there, I've just installed a fresh exaile on a fresh lucid kubuntu and I've almost got it working, save for the fact that there is no sound. I have attempted all the combinations of Normal/Unified and OSS/Alsa/Automatic/etc at the sound settings, but there is still no audio. My Amarok, system sound and Mplayer all have the sound working just fine. Looking at the shell output, there is no errors when trying to play
[14:07] <appleseed>  a songso my question, do someone know perhaps what is wrong?
[14:16] <BluesKaj> hey folks
[14:28] <penocio> hi. i just  pluged a new 3d vga card. my original one was not working after my pc got a voltage shock. the new one is 64mb but is giving a yellowish view. why is that so?
[14:46] <sas> hi i need some help plz. my termianl is closing every time after edditing profiles
[14:46] <sas> remove --purge and reinstall has no effect
[14:46] <sas> how can i edit the profile settings of the Terminal (konsole) without starting it in kde (there it crash's)
[14:46] <sas> sry 4 bad english
[14:47] <sas> deutsch ginge auch ^
[14:47] <maco> edit ~/.kde/share/apps/konsole/Shell.profile  i think
[14:47] <sas> thx i try
[14:48] <xsonicx> yooo
[14:49] <sas> maco: thx works fine now ;)
[14:49] <maco> yay
[14:52] <sas> so....thx 4 help i've to go ;) see u soon
[14:52] <sas> @all
[15:01] <xsonicx> puta
[16:19] <jorgino> hallo
[16:23] <txwikinger> !ask | jorgino
[16:45] <ibelouis> i tried to switch from windows 7 to newest kubuntu......
[16:46] <ibelouis> no internet = hard to switch =\
[16:46] <ibelouis> anyway to make my wireless conenct on kubuntu? is scans and finds the network, says connecting, then getting address but then disconnects
[16:49] <rork> !wireless | ibelouis
[16:49] <ibelouis> thx, ill give that a try
[16:50] <rork> I know nothing about that topic, I higly prefer having cables around but I hope the documentation can help you. Otherwise just hang around, I know there are a few people here who can probably help you.
[16:54] <xiven> How big a task am I looking at for modifying a Qt app to work with Kubuntu? It's an issue with Canonical's Qt patching...
[16:57] <ibelouis> well i have 2 linksys usb sticks
[16:57] <ibelouis> one works, one doesnt
[16:57] <ibelouis> but the one that works wont conenct
[16:57] <ibelouis> i even tried disabling wireless security on router and i get same problems when trying to connect
[17:00] <kalipus> ibelouis: use the gnome network manager
[17:01] <ibelouis> i didnt see that, i used the one that popped up on taskbar
[17:01] <kalipus> it works for me better and has more options
[17:01] <daskreech> ibelouis: how far into connecting does it get?
[17:01] <ibelouis> dont think it was gnome though
[17:01] <ibelouis> says connecting, aqquring address, disconencts
[17:02] <kalipus> u can use the gnome one on kubuntu, no problem ;)
[17:02] <ibelouis> pops up asking for password numerous times too
[17:02] <ibelouis> even on unsecure it pops up asking if theres a password
[17:02] <kalipus> its buggy ^^
[17:03] <ibelouis> how do i go about installing the gnome one on kde?
[17:03] <ibelouis> offline install obviously
[17:03] <kalipus> never worked for me on umts, and i was annoying so set up any little detail, so i use the gnome one, which has a great setup
[17:04] <kalipus> bette to get the pc via wire online, offline is little difficult cause of depends.
[17:04] <ibelouis> if i had a 100ft cable layin around it might reach
[17:04] <ibelouis> but thats not an option =\
[17:05] <kalipus> ^^
[17:06] <kalipus> look what u need and download it: http://packages.ubuntu.com/de/jaunty/network-manager-gnome
[17:07] <ibelouis> those will work on 10.0.2 kubuntu?
[17:07] <kalipus> dont know
[17:07] <kalipus> search
[17:08] <ibelouis> wouldnt it be easier downlaoding the whole gnome install disc and installing from that?
[17:09] <kalipus> dont think there are the packages on
[17:09] <kalipus> dont know, sorry
[17:09] <kalipus> offline install sucks, get a cafe, drink a coffee and use there wlan :)
[17:09] <kalipus> i will do too in few min
[17:10] <ibelouis> carrying a double wide tower with 32 inch monitor into a cafe......
[17:10] <ibelouis> wouldnt be to much fun
[17:11] <ibelouis> and if i could use wlan, i wouldnt need to lol
[17:11] <kalipus> ^^ right
[17:11] <ibelouis> thought about setting up tethering on my iphone again and trying it
[17:11] <ibelouis> didnt kno if kubuntu would pick it up though
[17:12] <kalipus> or u insatll first ubuntu and then the kde enviorment
[17:13] <kalipus> i am also not very comfortable with wlan problems, always used a wire :)
[17:13] <ibelouis> i did to, til i caught ex cheating and moved back with mom til i finish school
[17:14] <ibelouis> its all wireless here though since modem/router at far end of house
[17:15] <ibelouis> think ill reformat that drive for ubuntu and make sure wireless works and if so ill add on the kde
[17:15] <ibelouis> thx for the suggestions
[17:16] <kalipus> but before complete reinstall, check with livemode if it really works ;)
[17:41] <Mistery> hi all
[17:41] <otswim> hello, i have a program which is running, i would now like to stop it and shutdown my computer; is it possible to get back the computation to the point where it stopped and continue afterwards?
[17:41] <Mistery> i have a problem with mysserver 5
[17:43] <rork> Mistery: please explain the problem, if anyone knows he'll probably help you but it might take some time
[17:43] <chuckf> otswim: much of it depends on if the program is designed to do so
[17:44] <Mistery> rork: ERROR 1045 (28000): Access denied for user 'root'@'localhost' (using password: YES)
[17:45] <otswim> chuckf: i was hoping that there would be a general solution
[17:45] <chuckf> Mistery: what excatly are you trying to do
[17:45] <otswim> that would save the stack somehow and restore it
[17:45] <Mistery> chuckf: mysql -u root -p
[17:46] <chuckf> Mistery: I'm not a mysql person, sorry
[17:53] <txwikinger> Mistery: wrong password most likely
[18:07] <iconmefisto_> my tty's don't start on boot. if I do sudo initctl list | grep tty it lists all the tty's as "stop/waiting"
[18:08] <txwikinger> iconmefisto_: I had the same problem
[18:08] <txwikinger> I changed the configuration files for upstart
[18:08] <iconmefisto_> txwikinger: which ones? tty?.conf  ?
[18:08] <txwikinger> yes
[18:09] <txwikinger> I think 2-6 are not started anymore automatically
[18:09] <txwikinger> you need to add the other runlevels to it
[18:10] <iconmefisto_> txwikinger: my tty1.conf http://pastebin.com/L4M1B4sb
[18:11] <txwikinger> iconmefisto_: that looks like mine
[18:13] <iconmefisto_> txwikinger: tty[2-6].conf however only have RUNLEVEL=[23]
[18:13] <txwikinger> yeah.. add runlevel 4 and 5 to them
[18:14] <txwikinger> So they should come up even if rc never finishes which is what tty1 is waiting for
[18:14] <txwikinger> anyhow.. you can always start them with "sudo start tty2" etc
[18:15] <iconmefisto_> txwikinger: yeah, figured out how to start them, but if X doesn't start for some reason, I can't do that
[18:15] <txwikinger> well.. 2-6 don't wait for anything
[18:16] <txwikinger> so if you add the missing runlevels they should start in any event
[18:19] <iconmefisto_> txwikinger: don't quite understand the explanation, but what would have caused this? should it be RUNLEVEL=[2345] in all of them, or is this a workaround for some other upstart problem?
[18:20] <txwikinger> iconmefisto_: "start on runlevel [2345] " starts on  any event
[18:20] <txwikinger> there is nothing it waits for
[18:20] <txwikinger> tty1 waits first for rc to finish (that is the old init.d/ rc?.d System-V  startup
[18:20] <iconmefisto_> ok, I'm going to reboot and test this. thanks txwikinger
[18:22] <iconmefisto_> I swear kubuntu irc support is better than ubuntu
[18:22] <iconmefisto_> :)
[18:23] <iconmefisto_> are kde users smarter? or used to dealing with more problems?
[18:23] <geronimo_> Hello everybody
[18:23] <geronimo_> Is there some kind of help page for missing sound support in kubuntu lucid lynx beta (Flash/Skype)
[18:23] <maco> iconmefisto_: obviously the former, since we use kde ;-)
[18:24] <geronimo_> maco: did my question destroy your point? ^^
[18:25] <iconmefisto_> ok, rebooting now, back soon
[18:25] <felipe__> oo
[18:25] <maco> geronimo_: do you ahve other programs running that use sound at the same time? flash likes ot hog the device
[18:26] <geronimo_> maco: yes I have that, I use 64 bit btw
[18:26] <geronimo_> maco: installed kubuntu-restricted-extras like right away
[18:26] <maco> try closing other programs that use sound, closing your browser, then starting the browser back up. then flash might have sound while other stuff wont
[18:26] <geronimo_> maco: you don't consider this a solution, do you?
[18:26] <maco> personally, using pulseaudio seems to make things easier for me, but i know some people think it breaks worse on kde
[18:27] <BluesKaj> geronimo_, did you install kubuntu-restricted-extras ?
[18:27] <maco> BluesKaj: geronimo_ just said they did
[18:27] <BluesKaj> o0k, sorry geronimo_
[18:27] <geronimo_> ^^
[18:27] <maco> geronimo_: no its not a solution to the fact that adobe writes crappy code :)
[18:27] <BluesKaj> was distracted
[18:27] <geronimo_> maco: what about skype then?
[18:28] <geronimo_> maco: getting the feeling, that it's some kind of KDE problem, worked in ubuntu, all aside
[18:28] <geronimo_> maco: like flash, exaile, skype
[18:28] <maco> geronimo_: for me, using flash 10 and the pulse-aware skype with pulseaudio and setting pulse to be default device in systemsettings is what works best, because pulse will handle mixing instead of letting flash hog the device
[18:28] <maco> geronimo_: ubuntu uses pulseaudio. kubuntu doesn't.
[18:28] <geronimo_> maco: it uses jack, right?
[18:28] <maco> no
[18:28] <maco> kubuntu doesnt use either
[18:29] <geronimo_> okay
[18:29] <BluesKaj> ok, geronimo_ , some ppl think pulseaudio is a problem on their setups and some solve it by removing it.
[18:29] <maco> ubuntu studio, i think, uses jack. jack is for professional audio.  pulse is for desktop audio.
[18:29] <geronimo_> ah okay, thanks maco
[18:29] <geronimo_> maco: is it a lot of work to get it to work with kubuntu?
[18:29] <maco> BluesKaj: yeah i think they just need to learn how to configure it
[18:29] <iconmefisto> but you can use jack and pulseaudio in kubuntu
[18:30] <maco> geronimo_: no, you go to systemsettings, click on multimedia, and set pulseaudio as the default.  i'd reboot afterward to make sure it all starts in the right order
[18:30] <maco> iconmefisto: yeah, just neither is default
[18:30] <geronimo_> looks like I have jack installed
[18:31] <iconmefisto> geronimo_: some audio apps might have it as a dependency
[18:31] <BluesKaj> maco, I just remove it , my audio setup is simple stereo so alsa by itself works fine
[18:32] <maco> geronimo_: you might want to try to get help from crimsun. i think he knows how to make jack play nice
[18:33] <iconmefisto> usually jack is started/stopped manually before starting an audio app that uses it for low latency audio
[18:33] <geronimo_> okay
[18:33] <iconmefisto> geronimo_: do you have jackd running?
[18:34] <geronimo_> doesn't look like it
[18:34] <geronimo_> I'll install it
[18:35] <iconmefisto> geronimo_: qjackctl is a gui to start/stop jack, and configure it
[18:36] <vince> hi guys
[18:36] <vince> (girls)
[18:36] <iconmefisto> txwikinger: btw, still no tty's
[18:37] <txwikinger> iconmefisto: that's odd
[18:37] <txwikinger> maybe something with your upstart is off
[18:37] <vince> question: how can I remove the kde-desktop logo in top right hand corner of the kde menu ? It's all messed up since lucid when you use custom themes
[18:37] <BluesKaj> geronimo_, good luck with jack , I hope iconmefisto sticks around to help you with it
[18:38] <geronimo_> that bad?  :D
[18:38] <BluesKaj> maybe it's beyond my abilities , geronimo_ , I hear itworks for some ppl
[18:38] <iconmefisto> geronimo_: jack is only useful for programs that can use it. eg, audio recording/sequencing work
[18:40] <txwikinger> iconmefisto: but "sudo start tty2" works?
[18:40] <txwikinger> iconmefisto: what release are you on?
[18:41] <iconmefisto> txwikinger: yes it works. on lucid with this problem
[18:42] <vince> question: how can I remove the kde-desktop logo in the top right hand corner of the kde menu ? It's all messed up since lucid when you use custom themes
[18:43] <iconmefisto> vince: not an answer really, but you could use lancelot menu instead
[18:44] <vince> indeed.
[18:44] <vince> (not an answer :p)
[18:45] <txwikinger> iconmefisto: look at this http://upstart.ubuntu.com/wiki/Debugging
[18:45] <txwikinger> maybe you can get some more info with the debugging
[18:48] <jhambo> hi folks, on 9.10, launching kmail or kontact gives a segmentation fault with the following dumped to the command line: http://paste.ubuntu.com/419949/.  I'd greatly appreciate any help to get these programs working.
[18:51] <vince> hi
[18:51] <vince> have you tried to delete the config files ?
[18:52] <jhambo> vince: which ones?
[18:52] <garikoitz> hola
[18:53] <vince> home\user\.kde\apps\
[18:54] <vince> just the kmail folder though
[18:54] <vince> rename it, KDE will create new config files
[18:55] <vince> home\user\.kde\share\apps\
[18:55] <jhambo> vince: I did an `aptitude purge kmail; aptitude install kmail`. and it still doesn't work
[18:56] <jhambo> vince: one sec have to log out and back in
[18:56] <garikoitz> alguien sabe hablar español ¿?
[18:56] <vince> un poco
[18:56] <vince> haha
[18:57] <garikoitz> necesito entrar por Undernet y no se como hacerlo. . .
[18:57] <alakoo> !es
[18:57] <garikoitz> no me deja nada mas que el servidor de ubuntu.
[18:58] <vince> "/server <undernet server>"
[18:58] <vince> nope not working
[18:58] <garikoitz> escribo tal cual ¿?
[18:59] <vince> no
[18:59] <Pici> garikoitz: /join #ubuntu-es
[18:59] <garikoitz> "/server <undernet server>"
[18:59] <vince> no fuctiona
[18:59] <Pici> !es
[18:59] <seattlegaucho> ubottu: I was about to post it :)
[19:00] <vince> pwnt
[19:00] <seattlegaucho> garikoitz: es possible que haya un #kubuntu-es
[19:00] <garikoitz> y alli en ese canal que hago ¿?
[19:00] <seattlegaucho> garikoitz: lo mismo que estás haciendo acá done el lenguaje oficial es inglés
[19:00] <garikoitz> estoy en el canal Ubuntu-es
[19:00] <seattlegaucho> *donde
[19:01] <garikoitz> gracias
[19:01] <garikoitz> muy amable
[19:03] <jhambo> vince: back
[19:03] <vince> yep
[19:03] <vince> so ?
[19:03] <jhambo> for some reason doing a aptitude purge kmail doesn't get rid of the config files like I thought it would
[19:03] <vince> so have you tried my method ?
[19:04] <vince> usually i go manually, it's the only way to know for sure
[19:05] <jhambo> vince: goood god! it worked!!! I probably bashed my head on this for 6 hours since yesterday.  I got all side tracked into trying to fiddle with the akonadi server
[19:05] <jhambo> your method worked
[19:06] <vince> usually when something goes wrong with an app, deleting the config files manually is the best option
[19:06] <vince> glad to hear it worked
[19:06] <antonio_> hi
[19:07] <vince> hi
[19:07] <jhambo> yes many many thanks.  Now I'm off to understand what aptitude purge actually does...
[19:07] <Delemir>  /agree with vince i do this all the times
[19:08] <vince> I think it deletes all the packages you downloaded and that are not used anymore
[19:14] <jhambo> vince: got it - purge deletes the system wide config but never touches the user home directories
[19:16] <vince> jhambo: cheers I didn't know that
[19:26] <ary> one question: I'm using ubuntu 9.10 with kde 4.3. I want to install kde 4.4. I read that I need to use Kubuntu PPA Backports (4.4)
[19:27] <ary> doing: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:kubuntu-ppa/backports
[19:27] <ary> my question is: it'll upgrade to kde 4.4 or to the current backport version?
[19:34] <ary> hello???
[19:36] <moetunes> ary: I've never done it but try   apt-cache search kde4   to check
[19:37] <vince> I did
[19:37] <vince> I just followed to instructions on kde.org
[19:37] <vince> nope sorry, kubuntu.org
[19:38] <vince> you might have to reinstall plasma-desktop though
[19:38] <vince> or delete your current kde config files and let kde 4.4 recreate them
[19:39] <vince> http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kde-sc-4.4.2
[19:39] <vince> ary:
[19:40] <ary> vince: okey... but my question is: Does the backports has only kde 4.4 or will it change for new version every time
[19:40] <ary> for example: kde4.4 then kde 4.5 then 4.6 ...etc
[19:40] <vince> I think you will have the option to upgrade everytime thee is a new version yeah
[19:40] <vince> via kpackagekit
[19:40] <vince> i started out with kde 4.4
[19:41] <vince> and I had the option to upgrade to 4.4.1
[19:41] <vince> then 4.4.2
[19:41] <vince> kpackagekit will let you know :)
[19:42] <ary> ahh okey. But backports doesn't work only with 4.4.x.? Maybe later it will change for 4.5 for example
[19:42] <vince> That I don't know
[19:42] <vince> It's not gonna change to 4.5 anytime soon though
[19:45] <txwikinger> ary: packages are tested before they go into backport
[19:46] <txwikinger> backport does not contain experimental stuff.. for that there are other ppas
[19:47] <ary> txwikinger: and what happend if today backports have 4.4 and tomorrow they have 4.5? My kde 4.4 will change when I try to upgrade it.
[19:47] <ary> maybe it's a problem for me :(
[19:47] <txwikinger> Well... as long as you do not set upgrades to be done automatically, you have to manually do it
[19:48] <ary> txwikinger: okey... yes
[19:48] <txwikinger> btw... you can always look with "apt-cache policy <packagename>" what the different versions are that are reachable for you
[19:49] <ary> yes...
[19:49] <txwikinger> and when you change the repo/ppa list and do an "sudo apt-get update" it will change
[19:49] <txwikinger> So you can take out the backports after your upgrade if you do not want to upgrade again
[19:50] <ary> txwikinger: I'll install a minimal ubuntu, then I'll append repo/ppa, and then I'll install kde 4.4
[19:50] <jesse> he
[19:50] <txwikinger> Not sure why you install ubuntu if you want kde, but otherwise, sure
[19:51] <txwikinger> or does minimal ubuntu come without a desktop?
[19:51] <Guest29505> anybody have Any idea how to edit the installation screen on Ubuntu
[19:51] <moetunes> yep no desktop
[19:51] <ary> minimal ubuntu come without desktop
[19:52] <txwikinger> ary.. you have to install kubuntu-desktop with the added repo/ppa
[19:53] <Guest29505> hay guys
[19:53] <Guest29505> i want to install mail server on ubuntu can anybody help..?
[19:53] <ary> txwikinger: yes but I want a minimal kde
[19:54] <txwikinger> ary: Not sure if kubuntu is the best choice for that
[19:54] <hellmakrz> hey
[19:54] <hellmakrz> can anybody help me
[19:54] <hellmakrz> i want to install mail server on ubuntu
[19:54] <ary> this the reason for that I want to install ubuntu with kde and not kubuntu
[19:54] <txwikinger> hellmakrz: Which question?
[19:54] <txwikinger> You asked two different ones
[19:55] <ary> txwikinger: this the reason for that I want to install ubuntu with kde and not kubuntu
[19:55] <txwikinger> Well. Kubuntu is KDE+
[19:56] <txwikinger> and the packages in the ppa have additional stuff... maybe not a lot, but there is some stuff
[19:56] <ary> txwikinger: for example?
[19:56] <txwikinger> the notification system
[19:57] <OxDeadC0de> Can I set windows in the background to be 50% transparent?
[19:57] <txwikinger> OxDeadC0de: I believe compiz can do that
[20:52] <RickKnight> Even after installing libdvdcss2-1.2.10 I still can't get DVDs to play on my Kubuntu 9.04 box. Can anyone help me with this?
[20:58] <jesse> ho
[20:58] <jesse> you
[21:09] <wizkoder> moin
[21:14] <wizkoder> just installed xchat on the n900. works fine :)
[21:14] <wizkoder> huh. wrong channel
[21:18] <icf7> How do I autoplay DVDs with kaffeine in Kubuntu 9.10? Manually invoking kaffeine works fine
[21:19] <luis_> hi everyone good afternoon i am trying to install the newest version of pokerth, i have Kubuntu-8.04(hardy) but i just can't do it from the source can somebody help me please this is a src.tar.bz2 file and the few instructions i have found are so confusing help please
[21:24] <sheytan_> I can't make a backup of my akonadi data in kubuntu. Got everything needed installed
[21:24] <sheytan_> can someone help?
[21:25] <icf7> luis_
[21:25] <icf7> oops
[21:26] <icf7> luis_: Uninstall currently installed version, download http://downloads.sourceforge.net/pokerth/PokerTH-0.7.1-linux-installer.bin?use_mirror= , open Konsole, type  sh Desktop/Pok*
[21:28] <luis_> ok
[21:29] <luis_> actually i haven't installed yet
[21:29] <luis_> cd
[21:29] <luis_> }
[21:29] <icf7> luis_: Well, I'd prefer installing the Kubuntu version, just cause you get all the dependencies
[21:29] <icf7> sheytan_: Why can't you make the backup? ( http://blogs.msdn.com/oldnewthing/archive/2010/04/21/9999675.aspx )
[21:30] <luis_> and the command you gave says: Can't open Desktop/Pok*
[21:30] <icf7> luis_: Did you download the file?
[21:30] <icf7> luis_: and if so, into which directory? I just assumed Firefox and default settings
[21:31] <luis_> i did download a file from the sourceforge
[21:31] <luis_> it's a src.tar.bz2 file
[21:31] <luis_> the file is on my desktop
[21:31] <icf7> luis_: pls reread what I wrote. the .tar.bz2 is for developers
[21:31] <icf7> luis_: You need http://downloads.sourceforge.net/pokerth/PokerTH-0.7.1-linux-installer.bin?use_mirror=
[21:32] <luis_> the thing is that in the pokerth web they say old version cannot connect to internet anylonger, they said that i need the current version
[21:32] <luis_> so i have tried to do it but i just can't
[21:32] <icf7> luis_: You can't download http://downloads.sourceforge.net/pokerth/PokerTH-0.7.1-linux-installer.bin?use_mirror=  ?
[21:33] <luis_> i can but the pokerth version in the repos is an old version and it won't connect to internet
[21:34] <icf7> luis_: Sry, I can't follow. Which pokerth version do you need?
[21:34] <luis_> this one
[21:34] <luis_> that's the one
[21:35] <luis_> but everything goes fine but then after installing it ADEPT MANAGER keeps telling me to update it and i do it, but it for some reason the system won't update it
[21:36] <icf7> luis_: The current version of pokerth is 0.7.1. I advised you on how to install it, but you didn't seem to read anything I wrote
[21:36] <icf7> luis_: The current version in the hardy repository is indeed 0.6, and probably too old
[21:36] <luis_> sorry about that
[21:37] <luis_> i am downloading the one you gave me
[21:37] <luis_> this one suppose to be open with wine but for some reason wine won't open ot
[21:38] <luis_> opne it*
[21:38] <luis_> open cit**
[21:38] <icf7> luis_: No, it's not supposed to be opened with wine.
[21:39] <icf7> luis_: Have you downloaded http://downloads.sourceforge.net/pokerth/PokerTH-0.7.1-linux-installer.bin?use_mirror=  ?
[21:39] <luis_> i did
[21:40] <luis_> it is in my desktop
[21:40] <icf7> ok, please press Alt+F2, enter konsole, press Enter
[21:40] <icf7> luis_: A black window should appear now. Right?
[21:40] <luis_> right
[21:41] <icf7> luis_: Type (or copy)   cd Desktop && chmod a+x Poker*
[21:41] <icf7> luis_:  (and press enter)
[21:41] <icf7> luis_: Got it?
[21:42] <luis_> ok
[21:42] <luis_> it took me to desktop
[21:42] <icf7> luis_: excellent. Now enter sudo ./Poker* . You'll need to give Ubuntu your password to install pokerth
[21:43] <luis_> wow awsome
[21:44] <icf7> luis_: Does that mean it works?
[21:44] <luis_> it's done can't believe i send last night tryoing to do it
[21:44] <luis_> thanks a lot men
[21:44] <ubuntu> bvb
[21:44] <luis_> works just great thank you very much
[21:45] <icf7> luis_: Have a nice evening, but don't let me write everything twice next time ;)
[21:45] <genii> !helpersnack | icf7
[21:45] <luis_> sure sorry about that take care
[21:45] <vince> !bot
[21:51] <vince> !fuck
[21:52] <Mamarok> vince: behave!
[21:52]  * vince just wanted to know if the bot can have sex
[21:52] <jhutchins_lt> How do I kill X on a system - bring it down to console-only?
[21:52] <jhutchins_lt> pkill kdm seems to just cycle it.
[21:52] <Mamarok> !language > vince
[21:53]  * vince agrees and apologises
[21:53] <Mamarok> jhutchins_lt: try Ctrl+SysRq+K, that should help
[21:54] <Mamarok> vince: thank you :)
[21:54] <jhutchins_lt> Mamarok: via ssh?
[21:54] <Mamarok> jhutchins_lt: if you can access it, yes
[21:55] <Mamarok> I just don't know how to send that via ssh TBH
[21:55] <jhutchins_lt> I would think that would execute locally.
[21:55] <Mamarok> did you try to kill the X PID?
[21:57] <Mamarok> jhutchins_lt: by number I mean
[21:58] <jhutchins_lt> Mamarok: I successfully killed kdm, but it re-launched.
[21:58] <Mamarok> not kdm, but X, which is /usr/bin/X
[22:00] <icf7> Mamarok: Won't help either.   jhutchins_lt: sudo /etc/init.d/kdm stop  stops kdm
[22:00] <jhutchins_lt> Mamarok: kdm is responsible for launching X, killing kdm should take it down, and appears to, but then it restarts.  Killing X should cause kdm to recycle to the greeter.
[22:01] <icf7> jhutchins_lt: Did that work?
[22:02] <jhutchins_lt> icf7: Had to reconnect to the remote machine, yes, it did.  Thanks.
[22:02] <Mamarok> icf7: thank you :)
[22:02] <jhutchins_lt> Must be a new behavior due to it being handled by Upstart.
[22:02] <jhutchins_lt> (Which cause it to complain about /etc/init.d/kdm stop.)
[22:14] <Ahmed\> How to select a default player for the media format files such as wma ? if i wanna switch the player to any other/
[22:18] <Typos_King> Ahmed\:     System Settings > Advanced > File Associations,  there you set the player associated for each file extension or MIME
[22:20] <Ahmed\> Thanks man
[22:20] <ubuntu> IS YOUR TURBAN DIRTY?!
[22:22] <Ahmed\> How can i install 3gp plugins on
[22:22] <Ahmed\> Movie PLayer
[22:26] <Typos_King> !codecs | Ahmed\
[22:30] <appleseed> Hi guys; I'm really hoping someone can help me here. I have a fresh lucid on a new pc which uses [Intel HDA] audio which works in Amarok, although when I try to play sound in Mplayer I get:
[22:30] <Ahmed\> Does ubuntu gets Virus ? i mean Does it ?
[22:30] <appleseed> [AO_ALSA] alsa-lib: pcm_hw.c:1293:(snd_pcm_hw_open) open /dev/snd/pcmC0D0p failed: Device or resource busy
[22:30] <appleseed> [AO_ALSA] Playback open error: Device or resource busy
[22:31] <appleseed> Failed to initialize audio driver 'alsa:device=hw=0.0'
[22:31] <Ahmed\> I am using it from a month works just FINE HUH where were i until now stickin to windows @_@
[22:32] <Typos_King> Ahmed\:      any OS can get 'viruses', I don't believe there are any exemptions to such, is just a matter of taking the time, and most take for win32 platforms, so
[22:32] <Ahmed\> HUH
[22:33] <appleseed> I've tried many things, but even with alsa_oss installed the sound seems to work only either on Mplayer or Amarok, but never at the same time.
[22:33] <Ahmed\> I don't have any anti virus for this or firewall, do i need anyting like that ?
[22:34] <Typos_King> Ahmed\:   there are a few antivirus apps for *nix too by the way, but their security is in safer fashion then other OSes
[22:34] <Ahmed\> umm
[22:35] <appleseed> Is this an HD-Audio issue, because I distinctly remember it working on AC97 with exactly the same software, just on another pc
[22:35] <Ahmed\> And firewalls ? i wish there was something like Looknstop
[22:35] <Typos_King> Ahmed\:   the chances of you getting one in the near future is highly unlikely and even if gotten the chances of it making serious damage is also no likely too
[22:35] <Typos_King> Ahmed\:     linux has firewall built-in the kernel, sooooo, you don't need to install any
[22:36] <Ahmed\> HHHHHHHHHHHH Thanks a lot for the info really
[22:36] <Typos_King> appleseed:    can't say... have you tried other players?  maybe is just Mplayer's settings for 'audio output device'
[22:37] <appleseed> Typos_King: atm I'm running both Amarok and Dragon Player with both playing sound at the same time
[22:37] <mentis_pl> hi, i have a ... problem ... i dont have 'up' arrow in dolphin ;P meaning the button to go up the tree... only back and forward... how to bring it on the screen ?
[22:38] <appleseed> but I've tried all the Mplayer audio settings and none works, so maybe it's some obscure mplayer library I have to install
[22:38] <Typos_King> appleseed:   maybe.... :), I use Xine-UI, which works peachy :), so
[22:39] <appleseed> Typos_King: can you play videos with vdpau acc. ?
[22:39] <Typos_King> vdpau acc?  who?
[22:39] <Typos_King> did you mean .aac?
[22:39] <appleseed> lol, nvidia acceleration
[22:40] <appleseed> libvdpau1
[22:40] <Typos_King> .... I dont have an nvidia videocard... I have an intel one :|
[22:40] <appleseed> oh, can you play hd movies smoothly?
[22:41] <Typos_King> my other machine has nvidia, a 32mbs one.. and played fine movies/dvds fine in xine-ui too, I can on this one as well
[22:41] <appleseed> maybe I'll try xine-ui
[22:41] <appleseed> but this mplayer sound issue is going to nag at me forever
[22:42] <Typos_King> and the nvidia one also played streams asx/wmv in mplayer as well, which is the only thing I use mplayer for, saving streams :)
[22:43] <appleseed> maybe I'll just switch to AC97 in the bios, I wouldn't know the difference between HD and that as I just use earphones anyway
[22:47] <appleseed> I was listening to audio on Amarok, but it wouldn't work in Mplayer, then I installed alsa_oss and tried again, suddenly sound worked on Mplayer and Amarok stopped with 'HDA Intel device not working, switching...'
[22:48] <appleseed> although I can play sound on Amarok and Dragon Player at the same time
[22:50] <appleseed> If I close Amarok the sound works in Mplayer
[22:51] <Typos_King> hehe
[22:51] <Typos_King> not sure on mplayer, but I know you can change the device for audio output in amarok
[22:51] <Ahmed\> What's the difference between BASH and Terminal and Konsol i wonder @_@
[22:51] <appleseed> only one works though, HDA Intel
[22:52] <Typos_King> and that might have been it, the installation of the drivers change something in the global sound configurations
[22:52] <appleseed> I'm slowly losing my mind
[22:52] <regeya> as long as it's at a slow rate
[22:52] <appleseed> lol
[22:53] <appleseed> You know I struggled the whole day just to make the builtin hibernation work, finding out after 12 hours that it was my USB3.0 that cannot be freezed
[22:53] <Typos_King> Ahmed\:     bash is a Shell OS, whenever you open a 'bash session' is also interchanged with a 'terminal session', and there are many clients y ou can use, Konsole is just the default for KDE environments
[22:53] <appleseed> a simple disable in BIOS was the answer
[22:54] <regeya> oh haha appleseed :-D
[22:56] <Typos_King> appleseed:
[22:56] <Typos_King> "I have not failed. I've just found 10,000 ways that won't work."  ~~ Thomas Alva Edison ~~
[22:57] <appleseed> hehe nice; it feels like I've got so much useless info in my head - i.e. how to fix 10,000 problems in linux
[22:58] <appleseed> that's all I know about linux, just the problems
[22:58] <Typos_King> appleseed:
[22:58] <Typos_King>   crap enter key :(
[22:58] <Typos_King> appleseed:  welcome to life 101
[22:58] <Typos_King> it's been like so since you were born :P
[22:58] <appleseed> Typos_King: yeah tell me about it lol
[22:59] <appleseed> I'm going to restart and hopefully AC97 will do the trick
[22:59] <cdoc> :'(
[23:00] <Typos_King> ?
[23:04] <Ahmed\> How can i DISABLE the Default bootscreen Which opens up KDE when i have selected Gnome as default i wanna see the PC to boot up like it was before installing KDE ? how
[23:07] <Typos_King> ...
[23:07] <Typos_King> Ahmed\:     not sure what you mean :|
[23:08] <Ahmed\> Actually i wanna
[23:08] <Ahmed\> see Gnome bootup screen
[23:09] <Ahmed\> Not as Kubuntu
[23:09] <Ahmed\> With that red xsplash screen ? when you only have Gnome you see it on boot up
[23:09] <Ahmed\> ?
[23:10] <appleseed> Nope, AC97, HD, all does the exact same thing with the exact same device names and everything. Woe is me.
[23:11] <Typos_King> appleseed: A pessimist see the difficulty in every opportunity; an optimist see the opportunity in every difficulty. ~~ Winston Churchill ~~
[23:12] <appleseed> Typos_King: Maybe I've been given too many 'opportunities' today then
[23:12] <Typos_King> Ahmed\:    .... not sure on that, there's the gnome window manager, metacity I believe, and there's the gnome's desktop manager, which I'd think you may not have installed, and thus you don't have the option
[23:13] <Typos_King> appleseed:   These days come and go, but they say nothing, and if we do not use the gifts they bring, they carry them as silently away.~~ Ralph Waldo Emerson ~~
[23:13] <Typos_King> :)
[23:14] <Ahmed\> Yeah
[23:14] <Ahmed\> I dont
[23:14] <appleseed> Typos_King: nice
[23:15] <Typos_King> Ahmed\:  then I'd think that may be it :|
[23:18] <Ahmed\> umm
[23:23] <appleseed> Happy Day - I've found a solution. When I want to switch between Mplayer and Amarok, I can just stop the track or video completely and switch over, which is not so elegant but sufficient seeing that there's not much utility in listening to music and watching movies at the same time.
[23:27] <appleseed> This however will not work if the track or movie is paused as the sound device is still engaged
[23:28] <Typos_King> well
[23:28] <Typos_King> depends
[23:28] <Typos_King> if you're watching a black-white old silent-movie, and you want to play your own background :P
[23:29] <appleseed> Like a Charlie Chaplin flick with some circus music
[23:30] <Pisagor> Hello, i am using Linux Mint
[23:43] <ubuntu> hello
[23:45] <ubuntu> could someone help me installing grub on an usb stick from which i can boot my install of kubuntu on another disk?
[23:47] <ubuntu> and dont tell me that google is my friend i heard that one before  and it is known that google has no friends
[23:50] <Typos_King> heheh
[23:50] <Typos_King> ubuntu:
[23:50] <Typos_King>   crap the enter key again :(
[23:50] <Typos_King> ubuntu:     did you install kubuntu already on the usb stick?
[23:53] <ubuntu> no i installed it on another drive
[23:53] <ubuntu> and i want to boot that install from my usb stick
[23:53] <ubuntu> i usually boot darwin/osx
[23:53] <ubuntu> i just want to install grub on my usb stick so i can pop it in when i want to boot into kubuntu
[23:53] <FloodBotK1> ubuntu: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:58] <genii> ubuntu: The basic process would be... boot a livecd. Insert the usb stick. partition it and format to ext2 or ext3. mount it somewhere like /mnt dir of the livecd.then from command prompt of livecd should be something like: sudo grub-install --root-directory=/mnt /dev/sdd     (or sde or whatever the usb devicename is..NOT sdd1 or sde1 partition but the main drive name)
[23:59]  * genii sips his coffee


[00:14] <wonko> Hmmm, walked away, did some stuff. Kid was playing Spore (may or may not be related) came back and sat down to 3 Xruns and a crashed jack.
[00:14] <wonko> maybe crash is the wrong word
[00:15] <wonko> it looks like it's still kinda running
[00:15] <wonko> but not in a healthy way that anything can connect to it
[03:06] <OvenWerks> wonko: quick test for a running jack: jack_control status
[03:06] <OvenWerks> or jack_lsp I guess. The two access jack in different ways
[13:08] <wonko> https://gist.github.com/bhechinger/8227ede16ff0bb2a5a1884d6d602c372
[13:09] <wonko> I have a call in two hours at which point I need to restart jack to get my audio back but until then I can poke at it in any way you can think to see if we can figure out what's going on here.
[13:17] <wonko> Or, I need to hop on a call now so nevermind. :-D
[16:05] <wonko> Hmm, changed it to 64/3 but it's still crashing. :(
[16:07] <wonko> given jack not liking the audio device going away I think I'm going to try a new cable
[16:30] <wonko> Ok, it's gotten so bad I'm back to the KA6. :(
[16:33] <wonko> Well, KA6 on ALSA. I'll set it up with jack later.
[17:38] <OvenWerks> I think I will try some different kernels in 20.10 later.
[23:41] <wonko> I'm mainly interested in 5.10 as my next system is going to be zen3 so that's an important consideration


[01:14] <BarkingFish> Morning ops - just a quiet word in your ears, please watch mohamad in #ubuntu, he's just informed a user in their not to waste his time with me, after I warned the user through ubottu for using foul language.  He seem s to be rather impatient ant the least.
[01:14] <BarkingFish> *at the least
[01:15] <BarkingFish> for the record, he's also suggested to this user to ignore FloodBot1 too
[01:35] <CarlFK> mohamad is fine.  other than not being a native english speaker, and someone gettign confused on who was using what language.
[01:35] <CarlFK> bye bye
[05:46] <bazhang> * FckYouNgger is now known as eboy
[08:19] <pangolin> ...
[09:55] <DanQ> Please prohibit Ubuntu developers from transforming this distribution to one like Mac OS X.
[09:56] <LjL> gord: stop doing that, plskthx
[09:56]  * LjL has done his duty
[09:57] <oCean> Oookay
[10:12] <Myrtti> oCean: I would have just told him to move the discussion to #ubuntu-offtopic, and told ActionParsnip to go with :-P
[10:12] <oCean> hehe
[10:13] <oCean> But now I have another chance to talk to sabdfl, since another report of my abuse is going there.
[10:14] <oCean> his desk must be full of such reports
[10:20] <LjL> what, you gave sabdfl the finger or something?
[10:30] <Myrtti> oCean: oooo, you're speshul
[10:31] <oCean> no, lately it seems to be a trend to inform him of my OP actions <DanQ> Please be advised Mark Shuttleworth will hear of the abusive power you conclude.
[10:31] <Myrtti> yes.
[10:31] <LjL> oh
[10:31] <Myrtti> you are speshul
[10:31] <Myrtti> here, have a daisy
[10:31] <oCean> \o/
[10:31] <Myrtti> --,---*
[10:31] <LjL> daisy, daisy, give me your answer do
[10:45] <bazhang> I'm sorry Dave, I can't do that
[10:47] <ldunn_> My mind is going
[10:47] <Myrtti> Siri, sing me a song
[14:02] <ikonia> @btlogin
[15:10] <Sidewinder1> I'm getting disgusting PM.s from ubuntunoob.. Could one of you wonderful folks please handle this for me? He's already been kicked from #u.
[15:10] <ikonia> yes, I'm dealing with him now
[15:10] <ikonia> he's doing the same to me
[15:10] <ikonia> he's just been kicked from #rhel and been warned enough in #ubuntu
[15:11] <ikonia> Sidewinder1: could you pm me what he sent you please
[15:11] <ikonia> (remove anything that is personal to you)
[15:12] <Sidewinder1> ikonia, Please stand by..
[15:12] <ikonia> Sidewinder1: thank you
[15:15] <bazhang> now in #xubuntu with more nonsense
[15:17] <Sidewinder1> Have a great day, all.
[17:36] <marienz> LjL: fwiw: #RubyOnRails a few minutes ago: < ~smokerrrrr> U CANT STOP CHOLBU
[17:36] <marienz> you've probably heard of him
[17:36] <marienz> (minus the typo)
[17:36] <LjL> marienz: uh actually, no
[17:36] <marienz> recurring problem with entirely too many proxies/vps hosts
[17:37] <marienz> (cholby, that is)
[17:37] <LjL> there's a little buggety in the floodbots as well....
[17:39] <LjL> marienz: ugh, he/they are doing it in several channels with different nicks at the same time... (#debian and #ror)
[17:40] <marienz> I don't think #debian is him (scrollback goes back too far)
[17:40] <LjL> yeah you're right
[17:40] <LjL> just presumed from the "cunts"
[19:32] <popey> /12/9
[19:32] <popey> BAH!
[19:35] <oCean> tonyyarusso: they've been advertising the anontux site more than once lately
[19:37] <tonyyarusso> oCean: Ah, good to know
[19:37] <tonyyarusso> Well, now I can say "You already asked that"
[22:47] <bazhang> wabi hello
[22:50] <wabi> hello bazhang
[22:50] <bazhang> wabi how may we help you today
[22:51] <wabi> can someone help me out a little, why my fixed ip of mine.. is banned on #ubuntu ?
[22:51] <bazhang> let me check the ban tracker
[22:54] <wabi> cool, a ban tracker :) how does this one work ?
[22:56] <wabi> bad behaviour.. according to ip nick/adresses something like that ? :)
[22:58] <Flannel> wabi: It allows us to keep notes on bans that are set/removed, which allows operators who are different than the ones who set the bans to help remove them.
[22:58] <wabi> get it, Flannel
[23:01] <wabi> so if i got on that list.. (somehow) getting to a banned list... housing a fixed ip.. i got to be a very bad guy :) right ?
[23:02] <Flannel> wabi: well, I'm not sure about you being a bad guy, but I certainly don't understand why you did what you did to get banned.
[23:04] <Flannel> wabi: From what I can tell, you joined #ubuntu, and then asked "<wabi> can i say "pussyfucking" here without beeing banned ? smile
[23:05] <wabi> yeah.. this is truely one of mine.. and i can stand to statement, Flannel  :)
[23:05] <wabi> that
[23:05] <Flannel> and then went on to some remark about there being no girls in #ubuntu.  Those two things got you removed, after which you came back, and told an operator that you "still like to say 'pussy'"
[23:05] <Flannel> even if it's offtopic for #ubuntu.
[23:06] <Flannel> wabi: So... yeah.  Care to shed some light on why you thought that'd be a good idea?  I'm taken aback.
[23:09] <wabi> Flannel, as i said, i can stand to that statement :) .. you seem to be a bit more aware on englisch talk than i am
[23:10] <Flannel> wabi: So... if I unbanned you from #ubuntu, we'd just get more of those sorts of comments?
[23:11] <Flannel> wabi: by "stand by those statements" you mean you admit to making them? or are proud of them?
[23:11] <wabi> no you would not.. but i might get an answer to my keyboard problems regarding to use ubuntu :)
[23:14] <wabi> Flannel, i dont know.. why people got some problems "with pussy" :) this seems to be international :) you are very "diplomatic" ..and i appreciate your effort
[23:15] <Flannel> wabi: It's not just that word, Ubuntu channels follow the Ubuntu IRC guidelines, part of which is to keep things family friendly and avoid profanity and the like.
[23:15] <Flannel> wabi: In fact, please read and understand them now (take your time): https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines
[23:17] <wabi> sorry, Flannel . i need to look up what "profanity" means in the dictionary :)
[23:17] <Flannel> wabi: swear words
[23:18] <Flannel> wabi: Whats your native language?  We might have someone who can do this in it.
[23:19] <wabi> my native language. is human :) Flannel :)
[23:21] <wabi> but , german, english, some french.. chinese..also
[23:21] <wabi> smile
[23:22] <wabi> whats your second language.. Flannel ? smile
[23:23] <Flannel> wabi: German.  But I wouldn't be helpful in this instance.  Just keep going through the IRC Guidelines the best you can.  Ask when you have questions or need help understanding something.
[23:27] <wabi> so your second language is german ?... shoudnt you then be "aware" why  i am banned ?.. on ubuntu ? by just mentionin "pussy" ? smile, Flannel ? grin
[23:28] <Flannel> wabi: Yes, I am aware.    Please read through and understand the IRC Guidelines.
[23:30] <wabi> you are nice, Flannel :) but you can "ban track back" on what ever Irc guidelines there are :)
[23:30] <wabi> who is setting those up ?
[23:31] <Myrtti> the community, including IRC ops, IRC users and other Ubuntu volunteers, over several years.
[23:31] <Flannel> wabi: The Ubuntu community has set them up.  The IRC guidelines are already summarized on this page:  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines
[23:34] <wabi> blah, Flannel :) i do say "pussy".. unregarded.. to what some irc guidelines say :).. if this is a matter to be banned.. do so :)
[23:34] <Flannel> wabi: If I had to pick the top three that are relevant to you right now: Code of Conduct, Language and Subject, Don't be annoying.
[23:35] <wabi> we are not in america , here .. Flannel
[23:35] <Flannel> wabi: That's correct, we're not.
[23:35] <wabi> :)
[23:36] <Flannel> wabi: However, if that's how you're going to insist on behaving, then I don't think you'll get unbanned today.
[23:37] <wabi> well, it must not be. Flannel ..  helping out someone, a day.. is a task.. aint it ?
[23:37] <wabi> gg
[23:38] <Flannel> wabi: It is.  Unfortunately you've indicated that you're not willing to respect the rest of the people helping/getting help in #ubuntu, so I can't unban you.
[23:39] <Flannel> wabi: Is there anything else that you need help with regarding Ubuntu IRC channels?
[23:41] <wabi> well Flannel . thank you very much for your standpoint.. but it seems that you are in more need, than i am :)
[23:41] <Myrtti> wabi: are you done?
[23:42] <wabi> to what, Myrtti ?
[23:42] <Flannel> wabi: It's not my personal standpoint, but the standpoint of the IRC community.  If there's nothing else, I'm going to ask you to leave so other people can use this channel when they need to, thanks.
[23:43] <wabi> thats lame.. Flannel :) and you seem to know.. using a channel is to have some talk :)
[23:43] <Myrtti> wabi: please leave.
[23:44] <elky> wabi, when you visit people, you should follow by their house rules. If you can't, then the people you upset can rightfully kick you out. That's what has happened here.
[23:44] <Flannel> wabi: This channel isn't a social channel, it's for resolving administrative issues.  Your issue won't be resolvable today, so I ask you part the channel so that we can resolve the issues of other people when the need arises.  Thanks.
[23:46] <wabi> sorry, i am not a native english speaker..
[23:46] <wabi> Flannel,
[23:46] <wabi> need to read this .. to get a clue..on what you want to say
[23:46] <elky> wabi, this channel isn't for social chat. this is for ops to talk to people about bans and stuff. we need you to leave so that when other bans need discussing, we can do so with less interruption.
[23:48] <bazhang> just finished trolling in #freenode prior
[23:48] <Pici> bazhang: a904?
[23:48] <bazhang> Pici, yeppers
[23:49] <elky> looks like there will be a need very soon, wabi. could you please go?
[23:50] <wabi> so you discuss bans here ?.. but you cant stand an argument ? without .. wanting people to "leave" that are not .... "in your sight of way" ?.. is this the way you discuss bans here ?
[23:50] <elky> wabi, we've discussed with you and you insist to keep behaving badly. do you wish to change your mind on that?
[23:50] <Myrtti> wabi: if you can't understand that pussy and offensive language towards women is not a good thing on our channels, then there's nothing else to talk.
[23:51] <Myrtti> asdf, can't make sense of what I'm writing myself anymore
[23:51] <Myrtti> time to go catch some zzZZ, gnite
[23:52] <elky> wabi, we ask people to leave when they finish a discussion, because if we just let everyone stay here, there may well have been lots of people interrupting the discussion you and flannel had, and you would not have gotten to talk to him
[23:54] <wabi> elky.. it pretty late over here now
[23:54] <wabi> but okay
[23:55] <wabi> what do you think..is a bad behaviour.. on saying pussy..and beeing interested on opposite sex ?
[23:55] <bazhang> ...
[23:56] <Myrtti> sorry, wabi, this isn't going anywhere. bye.