[01:33] <TheMuso> c/
[12:51] <speakman> Hi folks. Are there any active development regarding multitouch in Ubuntu currently? I'm thinking of buying an Apple Magic Mouse, but I remember having a tough time with the mouse pad on my MacBook Air in 12.04.
[12:52] <dandrader> speakman,  no, not really. at least in terms of new gestures in Unity  and such
[12:53] <dandrader> but there are new gestures in 12.10 compared to 12.04
[20:07] <dandrader> I was thinking about adding the equivalent of frame_x11_accept_touch and frame_x11_reject_touch in frame.h. Afterall frame.h already has XInput2 specific concepts such as touch ownership and pending end.
[20:08] <dandrader> that would enable grail to get rid of its use of the frame_x11 header
[20:08] <dandrader> so that frame_x11.h could be really a backend side only affair
[20:09] <dandrader> and frame clients (grail) wouldn't have to bother about what backend was used to creaete the frame events it has been receiving
[20:09] <dandrader> bregma, cnd  thoughts?
[20:10] <cnd> hmm
[20:11] <cnd> let me take a quick look at the code
[20:13] <cnd> dandrader: the only XI2 specific bits are properties on touches, right?
[20:13] <cnd> UFTouchPropertyOwned, for example
[20:13] <dandrader> cnd, right
[20:14] <cnd> what do you propose will happen if you try to call frame_accept_touch() when the backend doesn't support it?
[20:14] <dandrader> nothing :)
[20:14] <cnd> return an error code?
[20:14] <cnd> hmm...
[20:15] <cnd> I guess I don't see anything wrong with doing nothing
[20:15] <cnd> in either case
[20:16] <cnd> yeah, I think it's ok
[20:16] <cnd> you'll have to deal with the API dance
[20:16] <cnd> ensuring that the updated grail depends on the updated frame
[20:16] <cnd> and that the relation continues into the packaging as well
[20:16] <cnd> we wouldn't want someone to get a new grail and an old frame and die
[20:17] <cnd> dandrader: I guess there's a slight complication
[20:17]  * dandrader listens
[20:17] <cnd> reject semantics also means: I shouldn't get any more events for this touch
[20:17] <cnd> so you would need to add a filter for non-ownership backends
[20:18] <cnd> if the client rejects touch 8, and then new events come in for that touch, you would need to filter them out
[20:19] <dandrader> right


[03:24] <ubuntu__> Hello, I noticed a discrepancy recently regarding my HDD partitions. According to Gparted, it shows that the partition that Ubuntu Studio is installed on reads 652.71 GB compared to what it shows on the Desktop.
[03:24] <ubuntu__> On the Desktop, it reads 701 GB. Which one is right?
[03:25] <ubuntu__> *reading right?
[04:03] <Penguin_Revoluti> @ubuntu I would run the command df -m in the terminal, that should be the most accurate. At least in my experience
[04:05] <Penguin_Revoluti> @ubuntu_ or you could run df -h to display in GB
[04:14] <Eickmeyer> It's really simple, actually: It's a difference between GB being reported by the desktop as opposed to GiB being reported by Gparted. Or vice-versa.
[13:31] <AppAraat[m]> hi, how can I see what ALSA clients are connected to ALSA currently?


[19:45] <bernhard_> Hello Everybody!
[19:47] <bernhard> Is there anybody, who can help me with cups and lexmark printers?
[19:47] <bernhard> Or is this the wrong chat?
[19:49] <devil> bernhard: what is your OS?
[19:49] <bernhard> Ubuntu 14.04 LTS
[19:49] <devil> bernhard: then #ubuntu is for you
[19:50] <bernhard> i see, thank you devil
[19:50] <bernhard> thank you very much
[19:50] <devil> np :)
[19:50] <bernhard> :)
[19:50] <bernhard> what is this chat about, i am new, sorry for this question
[19:51] <devil> this is snappy ubuntu, a lean OS fpr the cloud and IoT
[19:51] <devil> for
[19:51] <bernhard> oh ok, thank you for the answer
[23:47] <mahmoh2> asac: kirkland: ping, it's mahmoh @ GE hackathon
[23:47] <mahmoh2> need help
[23:48] <mahmoh2> for a snap customer re: node snap actually, asac


[15:26] <minimal> meena: the testcase test_missing_keydata is LUKS-specific and so not relevant for ZFS encryption
[16:03] <meena> minimal: yes, but i changed the code leading into that, so now it's failing and i don't know why
[16:10] <minimal> meena: yeah, been there, done that, lol. I had another go at digging into testcase failure after my own (local) growpart changes and still haven't gotten by head around things yet
[16:14] <minimal> meena: in your case I assume the problem is that your changes added a subp call for "zpool" but I dodn't see any mocking changes you've made to the testcases to deal with this
[16:38] <meena> minimal: because nothing should be hitting that line yet
[16:40] <minimal> ah ok
[17:28] <holman> Ill take a look
[19:28] <meena> holman: for now, I'm running tests on Ubuntu, BTW, haven't dared to look at them on FreeBSD in a few weeks