[03:02] <genii> Meshezabeel: alt-f2 then gnome-wm --replace                    to enable compiz after again: alt-f2 compiz --replace
[03:02] <un0p> Darkmystere, you probably need to run it under sudo -- sudo fdisk -kl
[03:02] <Jack_Sparrow> Darkmystere: sudo fdisk -l
[03:02] <un0p> err  - sudo fdisk -l
[03:02] <psyber> anyone in here know a legit way to create a vm of XP without buying a copy of XP?
[03:03] <Patrickva> Um, no
[03:03] <Meshezabeel> thanks genii
[03:03] <Darkmystere> Jack_Sparrow: Yea that was it
[03:03] <un0p> psyber, impossible
[03:03] <wease|> psyber, not likely to ever happen
[03:03] <Jack_Sparrow> psyber: No.. and please dont ask again in here
[03:03] <SpookyET> hi
[03:04] <SpookyET> The Official OpenOffice packages are better than Ubuntu's http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=4188762#post4188762
[03:04] <Darkmystere> !pastebin
[03:04] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[03:04] <LibertyShadow> I have been having crashing problems lately
[03:04] <Jack_Sparrow> SpookyET: Thanks, but did you have a question or need help...
[03:04] <Meshezabeel> crdlb, well, disabled the move window but selection in gimp still does not move...one step closer anyhow
[03:04] <SpookyET> Jack_Sparrow: the question is at that link
[03:05] <User2005> yea ...some reason????!!!!
[03:05] <Darkmystere> Jack_Sparrow:http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/53114/
[03:05] <tempete> How do I disable a check in ./configure?
[03:05] <User2005> hum...
[03:05] <LibertyShadow> If anyone wants a look: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/53115/
[03:06] <un0p> tempete, ./configure --help
[03:06] <tempete> That didn't tell me how to disable a check.
[03:06] <weezill1> Hello's
[03:06] <un0p> tempete, why do you want to do anything else apart from what options ./configure gives you?
[03:06] <un0p> tempete, what are you trying to circumvent ?
[03:07] <User2005> That has to do with the data analysis ?
[03:07] <Jack_Sparrow> Darkmystere: I dont see any unallocated space on that drive.
[03:07] <arjuna> hello what is a linux dc++ program that searches in  all hubs for files?
[03:07] <tempete> un0p: It's saying "Requested libgnomecanvas-2.0 >=2.14.0 but version is 2.9.1"
[03:07] <User2005> yea....
[03:07] <fatman_> ls
[03:07] <fatman_> ^^;
[03:08] <fatman_> hi
[03:08] <Darkmystere> Jack_Sparrow: because i have it formatted as Ext3
[03:08] <|chiz|_> arjuna: linuxdcpp
[03:08] <genii> tempete: There's usually some reason a progam needs a specific version of a dependency to compile
[03:08] <Jack_Sparrow> !find  libgnomecanvas
[03:08] <ubotu> Found: libgnomecanvas2-0, libgnomecanvas2-common, libgnomecanvas2-dev, libgnomecanvas2-doc, libgnomecanvasmm-2.6-1c2a (and 3 others)
[03:08] <tempete> It says "Or later".
[03:08] <un0p> tempete, you do realise that if you got around the check, the application is probably not going to work well (or not at all)
 does it search in all hubs for a single file?
[03:08] <tempete> un0p: If it doesn't I'll install the old version. I'd like to get around the check.
[03:09] <Darkmystere> Jack_Sparrow: Should i unformat it?
[03:09] <arjuna> how do i install linuxdcpp from bz2?
[03:09] <[gquit]bombadil> !ubotu ebox
[03:09] <ubotu> ebox is a web-based GUI interface for administering a server. It is designed to work with Ubuntu/Debian style configuration management. See the plans for Hardy at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EboxSpec
[03:09] <Jack_Sparrow> Darkmystere: I really am trying to eat.. no need to unformat it if it is ext3 already..
[03:09] <un0p> tempete, well, you need an understanding of makefiles -- delve straight into the makefile -- probably ./makefile
[03:09] <Darkmystere> Jack_Sparrow: Sorry...
[03:10] <|chiz|_> linuxdcpp: not sure, what distro are you running?
[03:10] <User2005> basic file set diff
[03:10] <un0p> tempete, actually, come to think about it, you probably want to examine ./configure first
 ubuntu sir
[03:10] <|chiz|_> linuxdcpp: Gutsy?
 duh
[03:10] <weezill1> Hello, I just installed Ubuntu Studio and when I try to boot the Kernal from GRUB, I get Error 22: No such Partition. I suspect my mapping may be wrong, is there a command I can enter to view all my partitions that is equivalent to the "sudo fdisk -l" command?
[03:10] <|chiz|_> linuxdcpp: its in the repo champ
[03:11] <tempete> un0p: Thanks. I'll mess with that a bit.
[03:11] <Jack_Sparrow> tempete: What are you trying to install from outside the official repos?
[03:11] <|chiz|_> arjuna: just apt-get install linuxdcpp
[03:11] <mzracer360> I flashed the BIOS of my Mirra backup device to get into the CMOS w/o the manufacturers password and enable a cdrom drive.  I am now having trouble installing Ubutnu server.  I get: Loading /install/vmlinuz.........
[03:11] <tempete> Jack_Sparrow: I'm not using Ubuntu, actually. Used to - knew this was a good place for general help. Trying to install GTKPod.
[03:11] <un0p> !repeat | mzracer360
[03:11] <ubotu> mzracer360: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[03:12] <hotdog003> Simply apt-get install gtkpod?
[03:12] <Jack_Sparrow> tempete: Dependency issues are common when trying to build your own stuff...
[03:12] <arjuna>  just apt-get install linuxdcpp
[03:12] <crwlr> anybody willing to look at my xorg.conf and help me set up twinview?
[03:12] <User2005> yea ????
[03:12] <tempete> Jack_Sparrow: Oh, I know that. I'm just used to the later version working (Like it says it should in the INSTALL file)
[03:12] <un0p> tempete, what version of gtkpod are you after?
[03:13] <Jack_Sparrow> tempete: Then you need to get help from the distro you are using.
[03:13] <tempete> un0p: I downloaded 0.99.12 from their website.
 http://linuxdcpp.berlios.de/document.php?id=1
[03:13] <|chiz|_> arjuna: apt-get is somewhat of a package mananger
 i want to get that not .698 version
[03:14] <tempete> Jack_Sparrow: I was just looking for a way to ignore the dependency check, actually. Not very distro-specific.
[03:14] <Strider> Question: Synaptic seems to be having trouble downloading the build-essential package (namely the dkpg-dev, patch, and build-essential files). Pops up a "could not be retrieved from server" error.
[03:14] <crwlr> need help with twinview.  xorg.conf = www.pastebin.ca/869341
[03:14] <un0p> tempete, errm, did you say you dont run ubuntu anymore -- i could point you in the direction of precompiled debs
[03:14] <|chiz|_> arjuna: ok
[03:14] <|chiz|_> arjuna: download the tar ball
[03:14] <Jack_Sparrow> tempete: You cant ignore dependencies
[03:14] <hotdog003> Strider: Switch mirrors?
[03:14] <tempete> un0p: I use Vector. No deb support.
 done
[03:15] <|chiz|_> arjuna: then usually you need to just run ./configure from inside the dcpp folder
[03:15] <Strider> hotdog003: How would I do that in synaptic?
[03:15] <|chiz|_> arjuna: and then make and then make install as root
[03:15] <tempete> Jack_Sparrow: No no, I just mean ignore the check and try to use the version that's there. I've installed things that way before - accidentally.
[03:15] <Jack_Sparrow> tempete: Sorry, cant help...
[03:15] <|chiz|_> arjuna: but you have to have all the necessary librarys and compilers, ./configure usually checks for all the dependancies
[03:16] <tempete> Jack_Sparrow: That's okay. I just changed the ./configure. That issue is fixed. Now onto the other dependencies! Thanks, un0p.
[03:16] <Darkmystere> Jack_Sparrow Still eating?
[03:16] <un0p> tempete, you seem to be running quite an old version of libgnomecanvas2 .. can't you try upgrading that from your distro's repos?
[03:16] <tempete> un0p: Hm? I checked their site and it's the latest, It hought.
 ./configure from inside the dcpp folder
 bash: ./configure: No such file or directory
[03:17] <sn00zer> Cpudan80: I have another question
[03:17] <Cpudan80> Fire away!
[03:17] <Jack_Sparrow> Darkmystere: I am not going to have time to help much tonight.  Just remember to read !uuid since you may end up changing them and needing to edit fstab to get back in..
[03:17] <sn00zer> Cpudan80: I got it going according to the guide but i can only log in as root
[03:17] <un0p> tempete, 2.20 seems to be current on gutsy
[03:17] <Darkmystere> !uuid
[03:17] <ubotu> To see a list of your devices/partitions and their corresponding UUID's, run this command in a !shell: « sudo blkid » (see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LibAtaForAtaDisks for the rationale behind the transition to UUID)
[03:17] <ethernomad> how do I add a network printer in gutsy?
[03:18] <Cpudan80> sn00zer: Hrm?
[03:18] <Cpudan80> It should work for any user
[03:18] <tempete> I'm using 2.9.2. The latest stable on their website is 2.9.1.
[03:18] <tempete> Ubuntu doesn't usually update things until the next stable release is out.
[03:18] <Cpudan80> sn00zer: which part forces you to be root -- can you walk me through the steps you are using to login?"
[03:18] <Darkmystere> !shell
 bash: ./configure: No such file or directory
[03:18] <ubotu> The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal
[03:18] <raj_> guys how do i add my wireless network logo on my panel ???? :S
[03:18] <|chiz|_> arjuna: I see that
[03:19] <stephen_> hey guys, im running ubuntu on an ancient laptop, it has an intel 82815 integrated gpu, i've got direct rendering working at 24bit colour, but in any game the colours are all like bright pink/green
[03:19] <raj_> my wireless network signal (bars)
[03:19] <|chiz|_> arjuna: that is usually how its done
[03:19] <|chiz|_> arjuna: read the Readme.txt file though
[03:19] <|chiz|_> arjuna: it explains it all in there
[03:19] <grekkos> What's the name of an OS X dock-like app I can use on ubuntu?
[03:19] <sn00zer> Cpudan80: i stopped it /etc/init.d/xinetd stop, kill all xvnc processes, restart xinetd as current user
[03:20] <napster> Good Morning.
[03:20] <wookienz> hi sorry to ask a windows question here... but my windows drive shat tiself and thus had to revert to y trusty linux ubuntu back up...what coomands are avail to me in the terminal to do some sort of chkdsk on te windows volume before i erase it!
[03:20] <grekkos> wookienz: i donno if you can chkdsk but you can try to mount it
[03:20] <napster> Anyone care to answer my question?
[03:20] <napster> I
[03:20] <sn00zer> Cpudan80: then go to other computer and type vncviewer ip.ip.ip.ip:1
[03:20] <gpled> would like to run my screen at 1280 x 1024 at something above 56 Hz.  any idea how to get the Hz's up?
[03:20] <un0p> wookienz, ntfsfix from ntfsutils
 i can't understand anything in there
[03:21] <Cpudan80> sn00zer: I thought you only wanted to do it via SSH
[03:21] <un0p> !ask | napster
[03:21] <ubotu> napster: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[03:21] <napster> I'm from a training center, we recieved PC's from other country, already installed ubuntu, just wanna know the default password and username.
[03:21] <Cpudan80> sn00zer: In which case you would have to ssh to it first
[03:21] <nabcore> anyone ever see this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=637206 with the acx driver?
[03:21] <sn00zer> Cpudan80: a prompt dialog opens, username greyed out, enter password which i set with vncpasswd
[03:21] <IndyGunFreak> napster: there is no default username and password
[03:21] <un0p> !sudo | napster  (user passwords might have been set differently by the previous owner)
[03:21] <ubotu> napster  (user passwords might have been set differently by the previous owner): sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for more information.
[03:22] <napster> We can't login to those PC.
[03:22] <sn00zer> Cpudan80: i do
[03:22] <wookienz> un0p: thnaks will give thata  try
[03:22] <IndyGunFreak> napster: if you're being asked for a username and password to log in, then they set up the user accounts, and you need to edit those users.
[03:22] <stephen_> any ideas how to fix my problem guys?
[03:22] <sn00zer> Cpudan80: so do i log into remote host with ssh, then vncviewer localhost:0 ?
[03:22] <un0p> napster, you'll need to change the passwords -- can you boot up into recovery mode ?
[03:22] <ethernomad> how do I add a network printer in Gutsy?
[03:22] <wookienz> grekkos: it mounts ok and i can explore it.. well some of it before it locks up the entire computer...i think there maybe a physical error on it
[03:22] <Cpudan80> sn00zer: might be localhost:1
[03:23] <|chiz|_> arjuna: try ./Sconstruct PREFIX=/path/to/install
[03:23] <Strider> hotdog003: Same problem. Couldn't retrieve any of the files.
[03:23] <|chiz|_> arjuna: try /path/to/install could equal /usr/local
[03:24] <un0p> wookienz, be advised that any ntfs support on linux (or any other OS) is not 100% reliable and you can do damage
[03:24] <noonan> anyone know why a rar file says unsupported archive type?
[03:24] <un0p> wookienz, any other os that's not windows , i should say *
[03:24] <grekkos> wookienz: might want to get rid of it then, but I'm probably not the best person to ask about this... If there's nothing irreplaceable on it i'd reformat
[03:24] <jason__> you need a different achive manager.  Then it will work
[03:24] <un0p> noonan, it's probably not an rar file
[03:24] <geokeratz> has anyone installed succesfully a Keylogger in Ubuntu?
[03:25] <sn00zer> Cpudan80: it says error can't open display
[03:25] <jason__> the default archiver doen't work
[03:25] <grekkos> key logger to do what, geokeratz ?
[03:25] <noonan> un0p, hmm, it says it is with "file" command
[03:25] <yaser> noonan, sudo apt-get install rar
[03:25] <un0p> geokeratz, installing keyloggers is an uncool thing to do
[03:25] <Jack_Sparrow> geokeratz: No.. too much of a spyware tool...
[03:25] <Cpudan80> sn00zer: What did you type?
[03:25] <geokeratz> lol
[03:25] <wookienz> un0p: i save everything elsewhere...i can wax it at any time!
[03:25] <Cpudan80> sn00zer: Have to tunnel X with your SSH by the way, ssh -X <ip>
[03:25] <un0p> noonan, if file reports it as a rar file, then the archive is probably damaged
[03:25] <noonan> yaser, cool thanks
[03:25] <sn00zer> Cpudan80: ah yes, i forgot the -X
[03:26] <yaser> noonan, yw
[03:26] <noonan> un0p, hmm, weird ok
[03:26] <jason__> I've had the same problem
[03:26] <|chiz|_> Does anyone know how to install tuxonice on Gutsy
[03:27] <jason__> just type rar into add/remove there you can find a program to do it for you.
[03:27] <soldats> !info tuxonice
[03:27] <ubotu> Package tuxonice does not exist in gutsy
[03:27] <stephen_> hey guys, im running ubuntu on an ancient laptop, it has an intel 82815 integrated gpu, i've got direct rendering working at 24bit colour, but in any game the colours are all like bright pink/green any ideas how i can fix this?
[03:27] <un0p> noonan, try unrar first, else if you have a wine subsystem running, you could try running winrar and see if that helps
[03:27] <soldats> |chiz|_, probly by compiling yourself
[03:27] <sn00zer> Cpudan80: ok, logged into the remote host, connected to localhost:1, it prompts for a password, i used the one i set with vncpasswd and it opens up as root
[03:28] <|chiz|_> soldat: I guess so, I see they are going to put it in the next version
[03:28] <rpj8> Hey guys. Why can't I change ownership of any of my /media/ items?
[03:29] <soldats> |chiz|_, is it worth the wait. if not install via compiling. othersise its a few months before hardy is released
[03:29] <soldats> rpj8, what command are you giving
[03:29] <genii> rpj8: Because udev remakes the hard drive /dev/sdX items every reboot with ownership belonging to root
[03:29] <TangentCollision> hello, mon amiré I need help setting up a tf2 dedicated server'
[03:29] <rpj8> soldats: 'sudo chown floor5 /media/sda1/Music'
[03:29] <|chiz|_> well currently I don't havea working suspend 2 ram for my laptop :S
[03:30] <rpj8> genii: I see. So I guess there's no way to make them accessible with samba then
[03:30] <Cpudan80> sn00zer: What do you mean it opens up as root?
[03:30] <soldats> rpj8, is floor5 a file or folder
[03:30] <Cpudan80> sn00zer: It should bring you to a login prompt
[03:30] <rpj8> soldats: floor5 is a user.
[03:31] <genii> rpj8: Subdirectories should be able to be chowned, as you just put in this case, /media/sda1/Music               Music folder should be re-ownable
[03:31] <rpj8> genii: chown: changing ownership of `/media/sda1/Music': Operation not permitted
[03:31] <soldats> rpj8, if genii said its not possible it may not be. but youmeed to give it permissions like "sudo chmod 777 /media/sda1/Music" and all users should be able to access it
[03:32] <TangentCollision> I'll wait my turn then
[03:32] <genii> rpj8: are you sure it's not the sudo command which is the "Operation not permitted " ?
[03:32] <rpj8> soldats: You also can't make the file anymore open than 770. do to the umask in fstab
[03:32] <soldats> err i meant "GIVE" it permisions like "sudo chmod 777 ******"
[03:32] <sn00zer> Cpudan80: when i run vncviewer it prompts for a password in the terminal, after i enter the password i set with vncpasswd it opens a new window like a desktop, wallpaper, desktop icons, etc but its the root user
[03:32] <rpj8> genii: I copy/pasted the exact message from my console
[03:33] <un0p> rpj8, is the volume mounted under /media/sda1 a FAT volume?
[03:33] <rpj8> un0p: Why yes, yes it is
[03:33] <Cpudan80> sn00zer: Ehh... that isn't right --- go back and reread the thing
[03:33] <viktor> how do i get into the long wizzard to reconfigure my keymap (installed with turkish keymap by mistake... yay) :) thanks a bunch
[03:33] <Cpudan80> sn00zer: also see what happens when nobody is logged into the "server" side
[03:33] <un0p> rpj8, FAT has no understanding of ownership and permissions
[03:33] <genii> rpj8: Try: sudo echo "test"    and tell me if it says not permitted or echos back the word test
[03:34] <un0p> rpj8, you need to use mount options as a workaround -- mount /dev/sda1 /media/sda1 -o mode=755
[03:34] <genii> un0p: Nice call about the FAT fs
[03:34] <User2005> yup java bug report An error report file with more information ????
[03:34] <rpj8> genii: got output of test
[03:34] <rpj8> un0p: I see. So is there no way to make it accessible thru samba?
[03:34] <un0p> rpj8, well, once you mount it -- then you can share it with samba, why not?
[03:35] <soldats> FAt is windows so samba should be able to access it
 i can't understand anything in there
[03:35] <stephen_> hey guys, im running ubuntu on an ancient laptop, it has an intel 82815 integrated gpu, i've got direct rendering working at 24bit colour, but in any game the colours are all like bright pink/green any ideas how i can fix this?
[03:35] <un0p> soldats, FAT is not windows :)
[03:35] <hanophix33> anyone know of getting better battery life
[03:35] <User2005> firefox java driven ?
[03:35] <geokeratz> viktor, do you mean the keyboard layout?
[03:35] <Jack_Sparrow> hanophix33: Is it an ATI video card?
[03:35] <hanophix33> jack_sparrow: yes
[03:36] <rpj8> un0p: Hopefully... I'll have to look at the smb.conf file afterwards
[03:36] <Jack_Sparrow> hanophix33: I may have something.. let me look
[03:36] <hanophix33> jack_sparrow: you helped me with the desktop effects, which run very slow
[03:36] <soldats> un0p, gee im way out of it today. must lay off the...."energy drinks"
[03:36] <TangentCollision> hey, I need help setting up a valve dedicated server
[03:36] <hanophix33> jack_sparrow: none the less you were the only one who could help me
[03:36] <napster> I mean, I can't login coz I don't have the 'username' and 'password'
[03:36] <napster> I can't login in my desktop
[03:36] <un0p> soldats, you could say windows is _FAT_ tho :)
[03:37] <un0p> napster, google "linux password recovery"
[03:37] <TangentCollision> lol
[03:37] <|chiz|_> arjuna: why do you need this up to date version any how?
[03:37] <napster> thanks un0p
[03:37] <soldats> un0p, tru. i could have sworn he said NTFS. oh well. samba should recognize everythign though
[03:37] <Jack_Sparrow> hanophix33:  May have some info for you.. http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/53118/
[03:37] <TangentCollision> >.<
[03:37] <viktor> geokeratz: well, when i select my session and logon, i have turkish keyboard, also in fluxbox, but in gnome i managed to get the swedish keyboard
[03:37] <cory_> does anybody know how to turnoff recent documents, and deleting .recently-used.xbel and replacing it with a dir name .recently-used.xbel dosen't count
[03:38] <arjuna> <|chiz| you said the uptoday version have a search function that lets me search all the forums
[03:38] <jedi_> jsalf
[03:38] <cory_> any pref setting anywhere?
[03:38] <TangentCollision> does nobody know how to make/use the hlds tool for linux?
[03:38] <arjuna> <|chiz| hub one after another after joining in
[03:38] <pvl1> whats a uri?
[03:38] <hanophix33> jack_sparrow: how come my desktop effects are sooo slow?
[03:38] <geokeratz> so you want to have turkish/swedish in?
[03:38] <|chiz|_> arjuna: ok
[03:39] <Jack_Sparrow> hanophix33: DOnt have time...  try me tomorrow.
[03:39] <geokeratz> viktor, so you want to have turkish/swedish in?
[03:39] <viktor> geokeratz, i dont want turkish. i want swedish, sorry for not being clear.
[03:39] <|chiz|_> arjuna: what is your linux coding experience like?
[03:40] <hanophix33> jack_sparrow: thanks
 i know nothing abou tlinux feel like another waste of time
[03:40] <hanophix33> jack_sparrow: how do i edit /etc/default/acpi-support
[03:40] <viktor> geokeratz, ive managed to do some sort of reconfigure thingy in gnome, but its still turkish in the "select session, login - state" and also turkish in fluxbox.
[03:40] <soldats> hanophix33, what are your specs for your computer
[03:40] <hanophix33> ati radeon 7500
[03:41] <geokeratz> viktor, wow ,sorry i thought it was a gnome question
[03:41] <|chiz|_> arjuna: well people of your skill levell should really stick to the repo, precompiled stuff
[03:41] <hanophix33> how do i edit /etc/default/acpi-support
[03:41] <IndyGunFreak> hanophix33: gksudo gedit /etc/default/acpi-support
[03:42] <viktor> geokeratz, well i think the command applies to both gnome and fluxbox, the only way i managed to change it in gnome was through the graphical interface, with my mouse. but since i cant do that in fluxbox really, i just want to know the command
[03:42] <viktor> geokeratz, i know it was something reconfigure somethingsomething :P if that is to any help :)
[03:42] <|chiz|_> arjuna: you can download a 1.0.0 deb from getdeb.net, people here will probably tell you not to
[03:42] <Pichu0102> Anyone know why that I'm able to unmount my iPod via the eject command in nautilus, yet trying to unmount it using umount, eject, gnome-eject, etc in a terminal give me a "You are not root and is not in fstab" error for the first two and just displays gnome-mount0.6 for the last?
[03:42] <|chiz|_> arjuna: http://www.getdeb.net/search.php?keywords=dc%2B%2B
[03:42] <arjuna> <|chiz|_ how much do you know about linux? what if you died middle of learning linux? would n't that be waste of all your time?
[03:43] <|chiz|_> arjuna: I'm a computer science grad student, I do all my work in linux, I learn from necessity
[03:44] <soldats> arjuna, that question is not appropriate here as this is an ububtu support channel
[03:44] <geokeratz> viktor, when in : System>Preferences>Keyboard>layout , what is installed inthere? Is there the turkish?
[03:44] <TangentCollision> usually death wastes a lot of time, hence why we try to live xD
[03:45] <arjuna> <|chiz|_ thank you so much but "Application Linux DC not found"
[03:45] <pvl1> from the command line, can i tell rhythmbox to play a song?
[03:45] <viktor> geokeratz, Microsoft Natural and sweden (only becaus i deleted turkish and put in swedish.) from the beginning it was Default and Turkish.
[03:45] <|chiz|_> arjuna: http://www.getdeb.net/download/1625/0
[03:46] <cory_> hrm if it delete .recently-used.xbel and create another owned by root it gets automatically chowned to my user and made writable
[03:46] <tritium> |chiz|_: linuxdcpp is in the repos
[03:46] <tritium> !info linuxdcpp
[03:46] <ubotu> linuxdcpp (source: linuxdcpp): Linux port of the famous dc++ client. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.0.1.cvs20070523-1 (gutsy), package size 1079 kB, installed size 3092 kB
[03:46] <fatedkiss> anyone know about configuring aterm?
[03:46] <tritium> Don't use getdeb.net for something that is in the repos!
[03:47] <grekkos> if i want a program to come up when I type it in the run dialog gui in gnome where does the program have to be located? i.e., can i put it in a home folder subdirectory somewhere?
[03:47] <fatedkiss> tritium, hey i fixed that sound problem i was having
[03:47] <tritium> fatedkiss: great!  What was the fix?
[03:47] <viktor> geokeratz, i was thinking, maybe if i create a text file, from which i can copy some commands and paste them into the terminal in fluxbox i can get the correct kbmap
[03:47] <arjuna> <|chiz|_ thank you i isntalled but still says the same thing in about ob dc++ .698
[03:47] <pvl1> grekkos, if its in a home folder then u have to link to it, in a sense. but its usualy /etc/bin
[03:47] <arjuna> <|chiz|_ where is the new version>
[03:47] <pvl1> corrections anyone?
[03:47] <fatedkiss> tritium, well i got fristrated cuzz i couldnt fix it so i reinstalled ubuntu >.>
[03:48] <grekkos> pvl1: so i have to create a link then ?
[03:48] <viktor> geokeratz, the command 'setxkbmap' sounds strangely familiar aswell... dunno if it works tho
[03:48] <fatedkiss> tritium, and yeah..reinstalled skype and it worked?
[03:48] <tritium> fatedkiss: gutsy?
[03:48] <fatedkiss> tritium, yea
[03:48] <grekkos> pvl1: I was hoping maybe there was a way to just add a new path to $PATH and do it that way but I don't think it works like that
[03:48] <tritium> fatedkiss: well, I'm glad to hear it :)
[03:48] <pvl1> grekkos, no like if ur gonnna run something from the run command, it would be like /home/you//folder/app
[03:49] <|chiz|_> tritium: this guy wants a newer version
[03:49] <pvl1> grekkos, actually i think there is but idk how to do it. google around or search the forums.
[03:49] <geokeratz> viktor, well , i can't think any suggestion . i even googled but
[03:49] <geokeratz> ...
[03:49] <|chiz|_> arjuna: remove the other one
[03:49] <fatedkiss> tritium, yeah, i tried reinstalling alsa-base and a few other things and couldnt get it fixed, this tim i backed up everything
[03:49] <|chiz|_> arjuna: sudo apt-get remove linuxdcpp
[03:50] <cory_> grekkos look at .profile
[03:50] <tritium> |chiz|_: okay...
[03:50] <viktor> geokeratz, thanks a million for your time anyways, im gonna try to add a gnometerm to the startup and a textfile with the correct command :)
[03:50] <sn00zer> Cpudan80: ok, i think its working now, except i can't login twice, the guide says it prompts to login anyway or abort, i get the login screen and it rejects a second login automatically
[03:50] <cory_> if you have a ~/bin dir it should get added to the path
[03:50] <|chiz|_> tritium: I guess there is a new feature that makes the difference
[03:50] <grekkos> cory_: but if i add it to path will it work when I try to run the command from the gnome run dialog?
[03:51] <Cpudan80> sn00zer: To login over top an existing login, use :0 instead of 1
[03:51] <lynx``> Does anybody know if PPC Live works with Airport?
[03:51] <tritium> |chiz|_: cool, then.  Thanks for helping him.
[03:51] <arjuna> <|chiz|_ LinuxDC++ version: see Changelog.txt
[03:51] <arjuna> Core version: 0.698
[03:52] <|chiz|_> tritium: I do what I can so, that when I need help hopefully someone does the same
[03:52] <Brokerer_> hi
[03:52] <sn00zer> Cpudan80: when i try localhost:0 it says connecttotcpaddr: connect: connection refused unable to connect to vnc server
[03:53] <fatedkiss> tritium, you know anything bout aterm?
[03:53] <tritium> fatedkiss: nope, I don't use it.  Sorry.
[03:54] <fatedkiss> tritium, no prob, im trying to figure out where this so called .Xdefaults file is located
[03:54] <soldats> sn00zer, what are you trying to do
[03:54] <sn00zer> soldats: vncviewer over ssh
[03:54] <|chiz|_> arjuna: I see that.... that feature that you want isn't there eh?
[03:55] <soldats> sn00zer, what are you trying to vnc to
[03:55] <sn00zer> soldats: laptop to desktop
[03:55] <nugz1212> hey im trying to screencast my desktop with record my desktop and istandbul, both however come out extremely choppy, even with compiz off. Is there a way to fix this?
[03:55] <crwlr> i gave up on the twinview
[03:55] <tritium> fatedkiss: you can create a personalized one under your home directory: ~/.Xdefaults
[03:55] <soldats> sn00zer, same router?
[03:56] <tritium> crwlr: nvidia?  You read the README.gz in /usr/share/doc/nvidia-glx/?
[03:56] <lynx``> Is there any Airport support for PPC version of live?
[03:56] <tritium> !repeat | lynx``
[03:56] <ubotu> lynx``: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[03:56] <sn00zer> soldats: yes right now but once it works it won't be
[03:56] <fatedkiss> tritium, ill try that
[03:56] <crwlr> tritium: negative.  didn't realize there was one.
[03:57] <nugz1212> can someone help me get screencasting working?
[03:57] <spee> how can i make fsck run verbosely when it runs during the startup sequence
[03:57] <tritium> crwlr: check it out!
[03:58] <spee> it runs without being verbose and it doesnt show me what partitions its looking at or how far along it is or what its doing
[03:58] <spee> its really irritiating
[03:58] <soldats> sn00zer, well the same router means you connect via rrouter ip address ie. 192.160.1.*** outside connections means you connect via other ip addresses. then connect to the user you want
[03:58] <spee> i turned the splash loading screen off
[03:58] <Cpudan80> sn00zer: Hrm... dunno
[03:59] <Cpudan80> sn00zer: You may have to enable the "easy" VNC to login overtop an existing user
[03:59] <tritium> nugz1212: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CreatingScreencasts
[03:59] <sn00zer> soldats: i've got that, it is connecting to the computer fine, it just says i'm already logged in and wont let me login again
[03:59] <Cpudan80> sn00zer: System, prefs, remote desktop
[03:59] <Creed> high-freq, what in this represents the minor and major number? crw------- 1 root root 4, 6 Jan 22 11:53 /dev/tty6
[03:59] <crwlr> tritium: doesn't say anything about dual monitors
[03:59] <Creed> agh i hate autoname fill
[03:59] <Cpudan80> sn00zer: Check boxes 1 2 and 4
[04:00] <Cpudan80> sn00zer: give it a password too
[04:00] <soldats> sn00zer, connect witha different user name. if you dont have one make one you can connect with
[04:00] <mattholimeau> ubuntu rules... i just wish it weren't so finicky
[04:00] <mattholimeau> can anyone help me make it less finicky?
[04:00] <soldats> define :finickey
[04:00] <localgod12> anyone use reconstructor?
[04:00] <tritium> crwlr: yes it does, in one of the end sections
[04:01] <sn00zer> Cpudan80: soldats: thanks for your help
[04:01] <mattholimeau> soldats: whenever i reboot, i don't know what to expect. sometimes the sound works, sometimes compiz doesn't load
[04:01] <tritium> mattholimeau: if you want help, ask a well-formed question
[04:01] <mattholimeau> tritium: i did an hour ago. got no response. thought i might take a different angle.
[04:02] <tritium> mattholimeau: it doesn't serve you well to be sarcastic
[04:02] <crwlr> negative, tritium.  i am looking at it right now
[04:02] <spee> how can i make fsck run verbosely during the startup sequence? I have the ubuntu splash screen disabled
[04:03] <mattholimeau> tritium: didn't mean to offend. i'm being honest as far as i see.
[04:03] <tritium> crwlr: I've used it before.
[04:03] <ericvw> Under "Services" in Ubuntu what does enabling the Terminal Multiplexor (Screen) do vs just invoking screen in the command line?
[04:03] <crwlr> tritium: well maybe after i do a fresh install and my xorg.conf isn't so bloated, then i will ask for your help
[04:03] <soldats> mattholimeau, for sound make sure alsa is selected as sound card. make sure you save sessions on logout. for compiz i have no clue as i dislike compiz. maybe your box is too slow. not sure though. for compiz helpo ask in #compiz-fusion
[04:03] <spee> ericvw nothing :r
[04:04] <ericvw> spee: Really?  Wow...how useful
[04:04] <tritium> crwlr: I don't have nvidia anymore, but I recall reading the long .gz doc in /usr/share/doc/nvidia-glx, and it had all the info I needed
[04:04] <localgod12> is this the right place to ask questions about reconstructor
[04:04] <soldats> !dualhead | crwlr
[04:04] <ubotu> crwlr: Information about dual-head on linux can be found on http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/DualHead - See also !Xinerama
[04:04] <mattholimeau> soldats: i think that's what i'm looking for, thanks. i'll poke around at saving me session.
[04:04] <crwlr> soldats: that's no help, trust me.  been there, tried that...no go
[04:05] <Cpudan80> sn00zer: n
[04:05] <Cpudan80> sn00zer: np*
[04:05] <soldats> mattholimeau, cool. hope it helps. i might be away till tomorrow. if i dont respond ill most likely be asleep
[04:05] <localgod12> is this the right place to ask about reconstructor?
[04:05] <crwlr> tritium: think it'd still be in the ..../nvidia-glx-new folder?
[04:05] <tritium> !repeat | localgod12
[04:05] <ubotu> localgod12: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[04:05] <mattholimeau> soldats: could you point me to where i would save my session? google is giving me nothing but button missing bug reports
[04:06] <tritium> crwlr: yeah, if that's the driver you're using.  It should still be README.gz
[04:06] <localgod12> sorry for the repeat but things were going by fast thought someone may have missed
[04:06] <soldats> crwlr, i dont know anything about dual monitors so id suggest waiting a while and asking again or wait till tomorrow since asking multiple times is frowned upon
[04:06] <mattholimeau> !patience mattholimeau
[04:06] <soldats> mattholimeau, try in desktop settings
[04:06] <mattholimeau> thanks
[04:06] <nick_> hey, does anyone know how to fix the JACK Server when it says "the playback device "hw:0" is already in use. Please stop the application using it and run JACK again"?
[04:06] <tritium> crwlr: looks like it's /usr/share/doc/nvidia-glx-new/README.txt.gz
[04:06] <crwlr> yeah, i got my chat ethics down, soldats, so please don't hound me
[04:07] <sheskar> I installed Hardy in VMware, the resolution is set to 800x600. Unfortunately "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" doesn't ask me to set up the Monitor, where can I get back this question?
[04:07] <tritium> soldats: we'll get him going
[04:07] <crwlr> tritium: gotcha.  i'll check it out after my install finishes
[04:07] <Midtronic> what network stuff got changed between feisty and gutsy?
[04:07] <soldats> crwlr, im not trying to. im only saying my typical response to everyone :P. i really dont mean to be rude
[04:07] <Midtronic> I do a dist-upgrade, and all of a sudden I can't ssh into my box anymore
[04:07] <Javid> !lolcats
[04:07] <ubotu> i iz so bored of lolcats. speek english!
[04:07] <tritium> crwlr: It's chapter 13 in that file
[04:08] <crwlr> soldats: well that's nice, but i have had many other screen names in here and i have long since perfected my chat ethics, thank you very much.
[04:08] <crwlr> tritium: 10-4 bozz
[04:08] <soldats> Midtronic, it may be that ssh was upgraded so the passphrases are reset
[04:09] <CyberMad> how to check size and free size of memory ?
[04:09] <CyberMad> i google it, but can not find it
[04:09] <CyberMad> du -h, df -h is for checking harddisk size.. i don't know about memory
[04:09] <tritium> crwlr: free
[04:09] <tritium> CyberMad: free
[04:10] <crwlr> tritium: :S huh???
[04:10] <tritium> crwlr: sorry, wrong nick
[04:10] <soldats> type "free" in terminal
[04:10] <crwlr> tritium: no prob
[04:10] <CyberMad> i think something weird with my linux.. please see this:
[04:10] <CyberMad>              total       used       free     shared    buffers     cached
[04:10] <Midtronic> soldats: nope, I just cleared out ~/.ssh/known_hosts, still nothing
[04:10] <soldats> CyberMad, see my post
[04:10] <CyberMad> Mem:        499736     490776       8960          0      68584     250532
[04:10] <soldats> or trituims
[04:11] <tritium> CyberMad: luckily that's a short paste.  In general, please don't paste here.
[04:11] <CyberMad> i upgrade my memory to 512 from 256, but the free memory size is still too small :( why?
[04:11] <crwlr> wow...25mb of free memory on my laptop...512 altogether...
[04:11] <CyberMad> i will paste the whole information after free command, just a second...
[04:11] <fatedkiss> to comment out a line in any file is it '#' before the text?
[04:12] <astro76> !ram | CyberMad perfectly normal, read this to understand why
[04:12] <ubotu> CyberMad perfectly normal, read this to understand why: A quick FAQ on Memory Management: http://gentoo-wiki.com/FAQ_Linux_Memory_Management For Lubos Lunak's desktop memory usage comparison, see: http://ktown.kde.org/~seli/memory/desktop_benchmark.html
[04:12] <soldats> CyberMad, was the mem chips the same manufacturer and size
[04:12] <crwlr> cybermad: that sounds like a downgrade to me...
[04:12] <crwlr> oops nvm
[04:12] <geokeratz> localgod12, i didn't know reconstructor , that was a good question ... :)
[04:12] <wolferine> what can I use to convert a .img file into an .avi ?
[04:12] <CyberMad> http://pastebin.com/m29f667a2
[04:13] <crwlr> wow...i can't believe i called that a downgrade...thought it ready "...from 512 to 256"  maybe i've been up too long...
[04:13] <CyberMad> btw, is that correct 512 ? the total 499736
[04:13] <tritium> CyberMad: yes, see the links above
[04:13] <crwlr> cybermad: there's not exactly 512mb on a 512mb stick.  it's an approximation
[04:13] <fatedkiss> wolferine, .Img as in a disc image right?
[04:14] <crwlr> yes
[04:14] <wolferine> fatedkiss, .img is an image extension
[04:14] <crwlr> fatedkiss: .iso is a better format tho
[04:14] <CyberMad> crwlr, yes i know about that
[04:14] <fatedkiss> crwlr, i know im used to images
[04:15] <CyberMad> crwlr, i just don't get it... why after upgrade my memory to 512 MB from 256, i still get free 8044  and i'm very sure that make my computer slow
[04:15] <crwlr> fatedkiss: coo.  i got about 2,000 images on my computer.
[04:15] <wolferine> CyberMad, run memtest on your RAM
[04:15] <astro76> CyberMad: please read the link ubotu gave you, but in a nutshell, you can consider the Cached memory to be free
[04:15] <soldats> run memtest86
[04:15] <fatedkiss> crwlr, i do alot of image burning and mounting
[04:15] <wolferine> fatedkiss, any idea, or just interested in my topic of discussion ?
[04:15] <astro76> or waste your time with a memtest
[04:16] <tritium> CyberMad: likely you're using all that memory, but swapping out less.
[04:16] <astro76> ;)
[04:16] <crwlr> cybermad: why don't you just do a bigger upgrade than that?  you aren't going to see a big performance increase.  heck, i have 2gb in my computer and it runs sweet...that's my desktop of course.  my laptop is sluggish with ubuntu and windows and it only has 512 in it
[04:16] <fatedkiss> wolferine, was just wondering i dotn really know, i thaught of .img as a disc image
[04:16] <wolferine> what can I use to convert a .img file into an .avi ?
[04:16] <fatedkiss> wolferine, if that is the cas ei was unaware you can make it into .avi , usualy .avi is a video format
[04:16] <CyberMad> E: Couldn't find package memtest
[04:17] <CyberMad> oops sorry
[04:17] <CyberMad> it should memtester
[04:17] <wolferine> CyberMad, its on the Ubuntu installation CD
[04:17] <lynx``> is java pre-installed on live?
[04:17] <wolferine> CyberMad, there is no 'memtest' in the repos
[04:17] <crwlr> fatedkiss: big 10-4 on that, i do the same.  everytime i come across a new cd or dvd, i gotta make an image and a copy so i can put the original in my archive
[04:17] <tritium> CyberMad: memtest86+, as "apt-cache search memtest" would reveal
[04:17] <phineas> hi
[04:18] <phineas> #ubuntu-artwork
[04:18] <viktor> I'm using Ubuntu Gutsy 7.10 and I have dual boot, with winxpp as my alternate OS. is there some way i can reach my windows files through linux? thanks a bunch! :)
[04:18] <astro76> lynx``: no Sun's legal terms prevent that
[04:19] <fatedkiss> wolferine, is there a specific file on the .img you want to turn into an .avi?
[04:19] <wolferine> fatedkiss, ill look for assistance else where, thanks though
[04:19] <fatedkiss> wolferine, no problem i would suggest google-ing it
[04:20] <soldats> CyberMad, try memtest86
[04:20] <lynx``> awesome, another reason why I hate linux as a desktop. Takes way too much time to install java
[04:20] <mattholimeau> viktor: i've been trying to get dual booting to work... i have a windows install on a second drive... there any chance you could help me?
[04:20] <wolferine> fatedkiss, ill no longer require your suggestions :)
[04:20] <crwlr> tritium: desktop install just completed and booted.  time to try this out
[04:20] <tritium> crwlr: good luck
[04:20] <astro76> wolferine: you'll want to convert it to an iso.. link coming up
[04:20] <wolferine> lynx``, why is taht ?
[04:20] <mattholimeau> seems everything i've seen points to two partitions on the same drive.
[04:20] <astro76> !iso | wolferine
[04:20] <wolferine> that*
[04:20] <ubotu> wolferine: To mount an ISO disc image, type « sudo mount -o loop <ISO-filename> <mountpoint> » - There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion - Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before !burning.
[04:20] <crwlr> tritium: should i install the restricted driver?
[04:20] <wolferine> astro76, then ?
[04:20] <tritium> !info lynx | wolferine
[04:20] <ubotu> wolferine: lynx (source: lynx): Text-mode WWW Browser. In component main, is optional. Version 2.8.6-2ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 1138 kB, installed size 4860 kB
[04:21] <wolferine> tritium, ?
[04:21] <astro76> wolferine: you could then mount it and copy whatever is in it
[04:21] <tritium> wolferine: you asked what it was...
[04:21] <lynx``> wolferine: everytime I've installed java, it's taken well over 3 hours of working out problems
[04:21] <wolferine> tritium, i asked what what was ?
[04:21] <tempete> ubotu: Just wanted to get back and let you know editing the .configure file worked. Thanks.
[04:21] <astro76> lynx``: that's too bad everytime I do it it takes 15 seconds
[04:21] <tritium> wolferine: heh, nevermind...
[04:21] <wolferine> lynx``, u reading the API for installation FAQ? lol
[04:21] <boom> for toshiba m10 what video card driver is needed
[04:21] <DoubleDew> !ubotu dvd
[04:21] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at !Medibuntu or (for Feisty and earlier) http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[04:22] <lynx``> And there's no Airport support =(
[04:22] <SpookyET> Is there a ppt to pdf coverter? Evince does not support ppt yet, and I can't stand OpenOffice impress, nor powerpoints for that matter.
[04:22] <Chamunks> Im trying to do something like this sudo mount /media/sda1/audio/ /home/user/Music/  how can i do this
[04:22] <DoubleDew> anyone else have problems with DVDs on gutsy?
[04:22] <tritium> SpookyET: no, Impress would be your best bet
[04:22] <astro76> Chamunks: replace mount with ln -s
[04:22] <crwlr> anybody, should i install the nvidia restricted driver?
[04:22] <Chamunks> astro76, thanks
[04:23] <astro76> Chamunks: and no sudo
[04:23] <wolferine> astro76, easy to convert .img to .iso ?
[04:23] <astro76> wolferine: never tried it
[04:23] <viktor> mattholimeau, I think the trick is to install winxp first! just delete all the partitions you have, allocate like 25 gigs for winxp. install. complete the installation. put in the ubuntu cd and just follow the steps. at one time you will be asked how to partition your drive(s). just say "use the largest unpartitioned space" or something like that
[04:23] <Chamunks> astro76, is there a way to make it appear as the name Music
[04:24] <CyberMad> !memory
[04:24] <ubotu> A quick FAQ on Memory Management: http://gentoo-wiki.com/FAQ_Linux_Memory_Management For Lubos Lunak's desktop memory usage comparison, see: http://ktown.kde.org/~seli/memory/desktop_benchmark.html
[04:24] <viktor> mattholimeau, then it just worked fine for me with accepting what the ubuntu installer told me it would do, however it looked at first as tho it would reformat my win-partition, but it didnt, dont be scared, just try :)
[04:24] <astro76> Chamunks: it will be available under /home/user/Music/ with that command
[04:25] <CyberMad> after running memtest 512M, then my computer got restart automatically, then i check memory by typing free on shell, well i got: free 346620
[04:25] <lynx``> Anybody know how to right click on a mac laptop? :D
[04:25] <sn00zer> Cpudan80: got another question, is it possible to play audio over vnc? i realize its slow and would be choppy, but is it possible?
[04:25] <idyllic> lynx``: ctrl + click
[04:25] <Cpudan80> sn00zer: I dont think so --- but I really don't know
[04:25] <wolferine> sn00zer, yes, you can
[04:25] <astro76> CyberMad: that's because you just restarted, nothing has been cached yet
[04:26] <Chamunks> astro76, i see that well thats good enough thanks lots!!
[04:26] <tritium> CyberMad: that's not unusual.
[04:26] <CyberMad> what do you think? what actually eat my memory hehe...?? or read the documentation you give will get an answer?
[04:26] <astro76> CyberMad: it gives the answer and we have several times also
[04:26] <wolferine> CyberMad, run memtest yet ?
[04:26] <lynx``> With ubuntu idyllic
[04:26] <tritium> CyberMad: I think everything is normal.  You don't have a problem.
[04:26] <CyberMad> wolferine, yes, i run it with command: memtest 512M
[04:27] <CyberMad> because my memory is 512 MB
[04:27] <DoubleDew> is it possible to have a local Domain Name for a ubuntu Apache server?
[04:27] <wolferine> CyberMad, never run it from command line, as memory is being used, which could cause your results to not be true
[04:27] <sn00zer> wolferine: how is it done, i've ssh'ed into the remote host, then vncviewer localhost, browsed to my mp3 file and opened it, but there's no sound
[04:27] <wolferine> to each their own
[04:27] <CyberMad> tritium, i ask the problem few minutes ago because i got weird problem... my free memory is only 8084
[04:27] <idyllic> lynx`: Right-click is done by tapping the bottom-left corner of the touchpad, and middle-click is done by tapping the bottom-right corner of the touchpad.
[04:27] <wolferine> sn00zer, thats not how you do it
[04:28] <tritium> CyberMad: so?
[04:28] <CyberMad> wolferine, run from qw
[04:28] <CyberMad> wolferine,  then run from where? :)
[04:28] <tritium> CyberMad: if you only have 512 MB, I'm sure most of it is being utilized.  You're probably also swapping heavily as well.
[04:28] <Apsimar> hi all
[04:29] <sn00zer> wolferine: ok, i guess i should have clarified my situation, is it possible with vnc over ssh?
[04:29] <CyberMad> tritium, that's really weird... something eat my memory drop to 8084 from 512MB, i just run File Browser, XChat, Psi and Terminal
[04:29] <tritium> CyberMad: see my comments above
[04:29] <astro76> !ram | CyberMad this explains what is going on EXACTLY
[04:29] <ubotu> CyberMad this explains what is going on EXACTLY: A quick FAQ on Memory Management: http://gentoo-wiki.com/FAQ_Linux_Memory_Management For Lubos Lunak's desktop memory usage comparison, see: http://ktown.kde.org/~seli/memory/desktop_benchmark.html
[04:30] <wolferine> sn00zer, im not VNC expert, why not check their website ?
[04:30] <wolferine> sn00zer, as you have your answer
[04:30] <CyberMad> tritium, if you my pastebin above... my swap isn't use... just only memory eat by something (monster maybe... eh??)
[04:30] <CyberMad> astro76, thank you, i will read the documentation
[04:30] <tritium> CyberMad: you're not listening...
[04:31] <nickrud> DoubleDew: yes, if you have a local domain name server or name it in the other machine's /etc/hosts
[04:32] <CyberMad> ok, sorry tritium
[04:32] <CyberMad> :)
[04:32] <lynx``> Okay, there is no right click
[04:32] <CyberMad> thanks a lot all... i will report here again if this problem happen... thanks for your help
[04:32] <tritium> CyberMad: in particular, read that gentoo wiki page.  It'll explain about the disk cache, etc.
[04:33] <CyberMad> yes
[04:33] <CyberMad> i will
[04:33] <tritium> So, it's not a problem, CyberMad.
[04:33] <DoubleDew> !ubotu IP
[04:33] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ip - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[04:33] <tritium> !botabuse | DoubleDew
[04:33] <ubotu> DoubleDew: Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (type also /msg ubotu Bot). Don't use commands in the public channels if you don't know if they really exist. Also avoid adding joke/useless factoids.
[04:34] <DoubleDew> sorry ubotu :)
[04:35] <boodah> trying to use the latest ati driver and even though it installs, now DRI is broken.  log is showing "atiddxDriScreenInit failed, GPS not been initialized"
[04:37] <DoubleDew> is there a way to view all system commands that get called?
[04:37] <DoubleDew> and a way to view them for specific processes?
[04:38] <juan_ac> hello! I'm having trouble starting ubuntu 7.10 ... Sometimes I can only do it in recovery mode sometimes it does it normally... can anyone help me pls?
[04:38] <DoubleDew> juan_ac: can you give some more details of what is happening?
[04:38] <DoubleDew> is this your first install?
[04:39] <juan_ac>  DoubleDew: nope it isn't... I think it is a power failure problem.... you know one dey the lights went out and since then i'm having trouble starting it up
[04:40] <_> hey all. i have a question about disks and bad blocks. if the hdd has been formatted in windows as ntfs using a slow format, if i then format it in linux as ext3, do i need to check for bad blocks again?
[04:40] <stroyan> DoubleDew: The strace command will show all system calls that a process or its descendents makes.
[04:40] <DoubleDew> stroyan:  thanks
[04:41] <DoubleDew> juan_ac:  what does it say when it can't boot regularly?
[04:43] <ArthurArchnix> im-a-n00b: Just create the partition. You can check the disks for errors later.
[04:43] <juan_ac>  DoubleDew: well in recovery mode i have to write the command gdm in order to finish booting up, regullary sometimes it boot's up without any problem... sometimes it just hangs up checking something like etc.apt i don't remeber....
[04:43] <ghost> I know this question is unrelated and probably blasphemous, but where can I get support for a mac round these (irc) parts
[04:44] <ghost> I am a linux user but figure it won't e hard for me to lern osx to get a job as an apple tec
[04:44] <astro76> ghost: #macosx I think
[04:44] <ghost> astro76, thanks
[04:44] <ArthurArchnix> ghost mac users don't need support. Everything just always works perfectly. :P
[04:45] <Xabriel> ok, I've got both gutsy and windows XP installed, I've gotten it to boot to grub, but here's my problems: 1. ubuntu will no longer boot. 2. The grub menu isn't working, it's going to grub prompt
[04:45] <stroyan> ghost: osX, ghost you are dead to us!  (Oh, I guess you came in that way.)
[04:45] <Cpudan80> !grub | Xabriel
[04:45] <ubotu> Xabriel: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[04:45] <Cpudan80> Xabriel: Follow the first one
[04:45] <im-a-n00b> ArthurArchnix: thanks, for the last few days ive tried that.. using e2fsck it keeps dying and loosing the disk (external usb)... where as in windows (and i hate this fact) it formats and checks fine.... the disk itself worked in linux before as an external drive with an ext3 partition..
[04:46] <ArthurArchnix> im-a-n00b: check out this thread. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=617064&highlight=check+for+badblocks
[04:46] <im-a-n00b> ArthurArchnix: ok thanks :)
[04:46] <TangentCollision> excuse me
[04:46] <TangentCollision> how do I remove a directory that isn't empty?
[04:46] <ghost> rm -f /directory
[04:47] <ghost> i believe
[04:47] <astro76> TangentCollision: rm -r
[04:47] <TangentCollision> thank you
[04:47] <ghost> maybe -F
[04:47] <ArthurArchnix> sudo rm -R might work as well.
[04:47] <ghost> oh its r
[04:47] <ghost> sorry
[04:47] <ArthurArchnix> TangentCollision: Be careful with that though.
[04:47] <ghost> i was thinking 'force'
[04:47] <scree> Hi.
[04:47] <ghost> yeah don't do rm -r /
[04:47] <TangentCollision> yeah
[04:47] <TangentCollision> that would be bad
[04:47] <ghost> or what was that one? cp ./.././../
[04:47] <ghost> or something like that
[04:47] <ghost> makes infinite folders
[04:47] <toyo|desk> hi guys, umm I am having a bit of an issue... I have kubuntu installed and I am trying to use dolphin(the file manager) I want to always see hidden files but I cant figure out how to make it do it
[04:48] <Cpudan80> TangentCollision: It's rmdir --ignore-failure-on-nonempty dirName
[04:48] <TangentCollision> I tried that
[04:48] <TangentCollision> it did nothing
[04:48] <Cpudan80> uhh sorry
[04:48] <Cpudan80> TangentCollision: It's rmdir --ignore-fail-on-nonempty dirName
[04:48] <TangentCollision> but it's all good now
[04:48] <Cpudan80> dammit
[04:48] <Cpudan80> TangentCollision: It's rmdir --ignore-fail-on-non-empty dirName
[04:48] <TangentCollision> haha
[04:48] <Cpudan80> There we go
[04:48] <FloodBot3> Cpudan80: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:48] <scree> I have a USB wireless connector... the driver CD that came with it only sets up on Windows, of course.
[04:48] <TangentCollision> well, I did that option
[04:48] <scree> Is there any chance I'll be able to get this to work on Ubuntu?
[04:48] <Cpudan80> Ha the bot caught me!
[04:49] <TangentCollision> I don't think you need any disc
[04:49] <TangentCollision> it should just work :D
[04:49] <TangentCollision> like apple claims mac does
[04:49] <Cpudan80> TangentCollision: It's a shame it's not just rmdir -f or something
[04:49] <TangentCollision> yeah, seriously
[04:49] <Cpudan80> You could alias it I guess
[04:50] <nickrud> toyo|desk: you might find some kde users on #kubuntu
[04:50] <toyo|desk> nickrud, haha oh sorry
[04:50] <toyo|desk> didnt know there was one
[04:50] <toyo|desk> :/
[04:50] <nickrud> toyo|desk: no problem, just better help there :)
[04:50] <scree> Well I plugged it in.
[04:50] <toyo|desk> I will try
[04:50] <scree> And waited
[04:50] <scree> And the wireless connection still showed nothing.
[04:50] <scree> So plug-and-play didn't work, and yes, the device is supposedly plug-and-play capable.
[04:51] <Qrawl> how do I change Xchat  so clicking X just minimizes to tray
[04:51] <nickrud> !wireless | scree you probably will have to do some extra configs, this should help
[04:51] <ubotu> scree you probably will have to do some extra configs, this should help: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[04:51] <scree> nickrud: Thank you, I'll check that out.
[04:51] <nickrud> scree: and 'plug and play' is a windows thing
[04:52] <scree> nickrud: I thought there was the same concept for Linux...
[04:53] <scree> "Hotplugging"?
[04:53] <cubed> i can't get adobe flash 9 sound to work, could it be that i am using a usb sound device?
[04:53] <nickrud> scree: yes, if the software is written for it. Sadly, most manufacturers don't provide the plug and play software for linux. Some chip support has been written though
[04:54] <lynx``> how can I reformat a drive from ubuntu?
[04:54] <lynx``> just wipe it, not format
[04:54] <scree> Well this is a 'ZyAIR' connector.
[04:54] <cubed> lynx i just use sudo nautilus
[04:54] <Xabriel> woo!
[04:54] <nemilar> Does anyone happen to know of any program to create cartograms?
[04:54] <scree> I doubt they have.
[04:54] <Xabriel> thanks guys, it worked!
[04:54] <nemilar> lynx``: gparted works great
[04:54] <Qrawl> how do I change Xchat  so clicking X just minimizes to tray
[04:54] <cubed> lynx: also a good idea is to check the hidden files under view
[04:55] <nemilar> Qrawl: click it once, tell it to minimize to tray and click "don't ask again"
[04:55] <Xabriel> one more problem though, and I'm not sure if there's anything I can do about it, it take like 2-5 minutes to boot gutsy
[04:56] <nemilar> lynx``: if you want to do it from the command line, use the mkfs tools
[04:56] <cubed> xabriel: are you on a old pc? bad hard drive?
[04:56] <TheEpitome> Xabriel are you using NFS
[04:56] <cubed> 5 minutes is terrible...booting from cd doesn't even take 5 minutes
[04:56] <Xabriel> cubed, nah, nothing liek that
[04:56] <nickrud> Qrawl: and since that didn't work, settings->preferences->chatting->alerts, there's a checkbox for minimize to tray
[04:56] <Xabriel> TheEpitome I'm not sure what that is
[04:56] <Qrawl> nemilar, how do I see that dialog box agacn
[04:56] <cubed> from grub is less then 30 seconds for me
[04:57] <Qrawl> lol
[04:57] <nemilar> Xabriel: do you know where the hangup is?
[04:57] <TheEpitome> then you are probably not
[04:57] <TheEpitome> :)
[04:57] <nemilar> Qrawl: One sec, I'll help you out, I'll brb
[04:57] <cubed> i have lvm
[04:57] <ghost> The guys over in the OSX board say that it is hardest to go from linux to mac
[04:57] <cubed> but i dunno i thinks its fat right?
[04:57] <Qrawl> nemilar, ok ty
[04:57] <Qrawl> nickrud, I dont have that option
[04:57] <crwlr> i brokeded my desktop...
[04:57] <Xabriel> nemilar, it's between grub and the login
[04:58] <nickrud> Qrawl: are you using xchat-gnome or xhat?
[04:58] <TheEpitome> ghost: I agree, it's like linux but more restrictive
[04:58] <Qrawl> plain xchat
[04:58] <cubed> <--on gutsty with flash 9 no sound...no fix
[04:58] <nickrud> Qrawl: it's just below the alert settings, above 'Highlighted Messages'
[04:59] <nemilar> Qrawl: nickrud got it right on the head
[04:59] <ghost> TheEpitome, easyer to build a freeBSD box then learn mac?
[04:59] <Qrawl> I have Enable Tray, but it still exits when I click X
[04:59] <ghost> or as they say i would need to learn the gui way to do things
[04:59] <Qrawl> Noya, its already checked
[04:59] <nickrud> Qrawl: do you have the notification area on your task bar?
[04:59] <Qrawl> yes
[05:00] <cubed> gnash no sound (the fullscreen icon and volume were meshed together) flash 9 picture looks good but still no sound
[05:00] <Qrawl> nickrud,  but it still exits the program when I click X
[05:00] <nemilar> Qrawl: in your ~/.xchat2/xchat.conf, what's the value of gui_tray = ?
[05:00] <Xabriel> anybody have any ideas on speeding up my boot time? It's abnormally slow
[05:00] <cubed> is there a different version of flash that i should be using besides the one downloaded from adobe?
[05:00] <nemilar> Qrawl: ( cat ~/.xchat2/xchat.conf | grep gui_tray )
[05:00] <nutbastard> Question: Is it possible to make sound output dependant on which Desk is the currently selected Desk, so that I could stream futurama on Workspace 1, simpsons on 2, and so on, simultaneously, and being able to switch between them dynamically with Ctrl Alt [Right], and having the sound switch just as the display does.
[05:01] <nickrud> cubed: no, that's the one
[05:01] <nemilar> cubed: there's an open-source one, but it's not really any good
[05:01] <grody> nutbastard, if you use multiple sound cards, yes
[05:01] <cubed> nemilar: i thought that was gnash
[05:01] <nutbastard> Im guessing it's not easy to emulate extra sound cards...?
[05:01] <nemilar> cubed: yeah, I think that's the name of it
[05:01] <grody> but you would still need to make some software to interact with the media players & hardware
[05:01] <nutbastard> gnash?
[05:01] <cubed> for me the sound and full screen where mashed together and fullscreen wouldn't work
[05:02] <Qrawl> nemilar, gui_tray = 1
[05:02] <nutbastard> i hate their flash player
[05:02] <nemilar> cubed: but from what I hear it's nowhere near as good as the adobe version
[05:02] <Qrawl> nemilar,   but it still exits the program when I click X
[05:02] <cubed> yeah the video didn't look as good, but my flash 9 has no sound
[05:02] <cubed> maybe its my usb sound device?
[05:02] <crwlr> tritium, you still buzzin around here somewhere???
[05:02] <nemilar> Qrawl: huh, hmm.  If you wanted to, you could delete your xchat.conf file and it should ask you again
[05:02] <cubed> my onboard sound is no good it has terrible feedback noise
[05:02] <grody> nutbastard, you could look into how alsa deals with sounds
[05:02] <nemilar> Qrawl: you'll have to close Xchat first, though
[05:02] <Qrawl> nemilar, ok ty
[05:02] <grody> cubed, turn your microphone off
[05:02] <nutbastard> @grody alrighty
[05:03] <cubed> grody: its not even connected or on
[05:03] <cubed> but you can here me moving my mouse
[05:03] <grody> is it one of these intel HD's onboard?
[05:03] <cubed> like this click click click
[05:03] <grody> ahh, poor motherboard design then
[05:03] <cubed> well anyway the usb sound device works for everyother sound
[05:03] <grody> i had me a mobo like that
[05:04] <cubed> yeah my asus l1n64 4x4 does have some minor problems like that
[05:04] <grody> capacitors being too close to the CPU caused random crashes
[05:04] <cubed> except for running sli and 2 cpu's :0
[05:04] <jimmygoon> Anyone want to work on global_menu? it won't work for me, none of the menus appear.. its like its not taking the new debs
[05:04] <nemilar> grody: do you happen to remember the exploding capacitor Dell motherboard era?
[05:04] <grody> lol the laptop or desktop varient?
[05:05] <qrawl> nemilar, ok that worked. ty
[05:05] <nutbastard> DOES anyone think it's feasable, given a not unreasonable amount of effort to accomplish it? (workspace independant sound output)
[05:05] <grody> i heard a dell laptop nearly castrated some poor guy when the battery exploded
[05:05] <cubed> grody: its the only dual socket amd board that wasn't a server board
[05:05] <nemilar> grody: I worked for my school tech support for a while, every few weeks we'd get in a computer that wouldn't startup, and inevitably we'd open it up and a capacitor would be busted
[05:05]  * nickrud pushes his laptop a little lower
[05:05] <nemilar> qrawl: glad to hear it, np
[05:05] <cubed> it has 4 pci express slots and 12 sata ports
[05:05] <cubed> but the sound on it doesn't work
[05:05] <cubed> so is this why my flash sound won't work or am i crazy
[05:05] <grody> server boards are good for desktops too
[05:06] <grody> depends if there is a driver for your hardware
[05:06] <grody> thats always the crunch
[05:06] <cubed> its amd fx-74
[05:06] <nemilar> Does anyone happen to know of a map-making program for linux?
[05:06] <lymeca> I want to compress ever directory within my pwd into a 7zip file with highest compression setting individually as files with the name *foldername*.7z            How can I do this?
[05:06] <grody> i went about a month w/o audio on my laptop because of lack of support :(
[05:07] <cubed> anyone else have flash 9 sound working? did u have to do anything special?
[05:07] <cubed> i have all other sound working
[05:07] <grody> nemilar, kivio
[05:07] <nemilar> grody: thanks, I'll have a look at it
[05:07] <nickrud> !flash | cubed (there's some troubleshooting stuff here, ymmv)
[05:07] <ubotu> cubed (there's some troubleshooting stuff here, ymmv): To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[05:07] <ubotu> The Flash plugin installation is currently broken. This is due to Adobe changing the tar file that the package downloads. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=636397 if you need to fix this immediately, but it's recommended to wait for an official fix.
[05:07] <grody> depends what kinda maps you ment
[05:07] <nemilar> grody: cartograms, specifically
[05:07] <grody> ahh
[05:08] <cubed> !beta
[05:08] <ubotu> Ubuntu 7.10 (Gutsy Gibbon) is the latest version of Ubuntu. Upgrading to Gutsy:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GutsyUpgrades - Downloading: http://www.ubuntu.com/download - New Features: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/releasenotes/710tour - Please use bittorrent to download if possible, see !torrents
[05:08] <grody> then not kivio :)
[05:08] <nemilar> grody: I found some program called "cart" via google, but its input and output formats are like rocket science to me
[05:08] <grody> nemilar, r-cran-mapsr-cran-maps
[05:08] <grody> oops
[05:08] <grody> r-cran-maps
[05:09] <nemilar> awesome, thanks
[05:09] <nemilar> you a cartography major or something? ;)
[05:09] <grody> lol no
[05:09] <grody> im a dogs body freelancer
[05:10] <ghost> when will ubuntu be going over to kde4>?
[05:10] <grody> soon
[05:10] <ghost> in before kbuntu
[05:10]  * grody cant wait to take a peek
[05:10] <nemilar> ghost: I believe that the next version of kubuntu will be using kde4
[05:10] <ghost> yeah
[05:10] <nemilar> grody: you can install it's RC now, but uhm...I did, and uhm...yeaaahhhhh
[05:10] <ghost> yeah na i will wait
[05:10] <grody> lol yea
[05:10] <grody> i know, so hence why i'll wait :P
[05:11] <nemilar> haha, a wise decision
[05:11] <grody> im trying to get my hands on the new kernel above 7.10 but cant remember the branch name
[05:11] <ghost> I swear, I liked the KDE, i just wish it was more customisable (maybe 4 will fullfil my desires)
[05:11] <grody> ghost, in what way CANT you tweak kde?
[05:11] <psymin> quick question .. if someone on ubuntu wants to use vorbis audio and theora video .. which packages do they need to install?
[05:12] <ghost> grody, I could never make it behave the way I wanted it
[05:12] <grody> libtheora & libvorbis
[05:12] <LadyNikon> I wish i was able to change my background in kde easier.
[05:12] <LadyNikon> right now.. i cant
[05:12] <ghost> I mean i didn't spend enough time messing around with it
[05:12] <grody> :P
[05:12] <LadyNikon> in gnome i can right click on a pic.. and select it and it changes
[05:12] <ghost> not really stuff like changing background, more like behavior in konq and stuff
[05:12] <nemilar> I don't know what they were thinking, with that new kde4 menu
[05:12] <LadyNikon> now sometimes the pic works.. sometimes it doesnt.
[05:12] <cubed> !Restricted
[05:12] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[05:13] <SR71-Blackbird> any toshiba satellite users?
[05:13] <JDLafk> yo
[05:13] <rekon> I am having issues creating a new user via the GUI on Gnome. This username and group existed before but my girlfriend goobered up all sorts of things so I deleted the username, group, and home dir so I could start fresh. But now when I try to create a new user with the same name it won't create it. Am I missing something?
[05:13] <JDLafk> A135
[05:13] <JDLimbo> SR71-Blackbird, what's the problem
[05:13] <LadyNikon> rekon: have you tried a different name?
[05:14] <nickrud> rekon: make sure the username doesn't appear in any of /etc/passwd or /etc/group or /etc/shadow
[05:14] <SR71-Blackbird> rekon, i just want to map my wheel thing.. to control my headphone instead of the default main control for sound
[05:14] <rekon> LadyNikon yes, I can create other names
[05:14] <SR71-Blackbird> JDLimbo, sorry i just want to map my wheel thing.. to control my headphone instead of the default main control for sound
[05:15] <LadyNikon> rekon: any error messages?
[05:15] <JDLimbo> ah, erm.. I don't use an external mouse m'self
[05:15] <rekon> LadyNikon, No...I can fill out the information and click OK and it closes the window as if the user was created...But it dont show up in the list.
[05:15] <rekon> nickrud, let me check
[05:15] <JDLimbo> though I don't imagine that would translate to a laptop-specific problem
[05:15] <Palintheus> what could cause firefox to insist that java is not installed, when sun-java6-plugin is infact installed?
[05:16] <LadyNikon> nickrud: i was just about to suggest that heh
[05:16] <LadyNikon> good call
[05:16] <SR71-Blackbird> JDLimbo i'm sure it isn't.. just wanted to see if someone has solved the problem...  :)
[05:16] <Palintheus> nothing in about:plugins about java
[05:16] <SR71-Blackbird> can someone remind me of a tool to log system inputs?
[05:16] <JDLimbo> although the sound in general on this thing is very much messed up.
[05:16] <nemilar> Palintheus: have you installed j2re1.4-mozilla-plugin ?
[05:17] <Palintheus> nemilar: checking
[05:17] <baconbits|sleep> Howdy
[05:17] <rekon> nickrud, Thanks alot! The name was still listed in the group file even though I deleted the group. Works great now. Thanks again :)
[05:17] <SR71-Blackbird> JDLimbo, i just haven't got the default mic to work nicely.. everything else is good
[05:17] <TheEpitome> SR71-Blackbird: install-watch, install-log
[05:17] <Thugacation> CAN SUM1 TELL ME SOMETHING
[05:17] <Thugacation> IF I INSTALL ubuntu on my harddrive will it format everything
[05:18] <Spenser309> Thugaction: maybe
[05:18] <SR71-Blackbird> TheEpitome, no.. a graphical tool.. that takes mouse.. keyboard actions...
[05:18] <TheEpitome> Thugcation: yes, boot to the livecd and check it out first
[05:18] <Thugacation> what if i just want to contain the WHOLE operating system to ONE folder?
[05:18] <JDLimbo> Thugacation, it will unless you set up a separate partition
[05:18] <Palintheus> nemilar: couldn't find package j2rel1.4-mozilla-plugin
[05:18] <Thugacation> possible?
[05:18] <TheEpitome> SR71-Blackbird: sounds like a keylogger, trying to make a trojan?
[05:18] <nemilar> Palintheus: spelled it wrong
[05:18] <Spenser309> Thugacation:  do you understand the concept of partioning?
[05:18] <cubed> i think i figured out the no sound flash 9, i didn't have unsupported updates enabled in third party sources
[05:18] <Thugacation> yeah i do
[05:19] <Palintheus> nemilar: d'oh
[05:19] <SR71-Blackbird> TheEpitome, no.. i'm just trying to see whatever my buttons map to... to use those values
[05:19] <Thugacation> but why cant i just install ubuntu to one folder
[05:19] <Thugacation> like e:\wubi
[05:19] <nemilar> Thugacation: ubuntu needs its own partitions
[05:19] <Xintruder> hi
[05:19] <cubed> !offtopic
[05:19] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[05:19] <nemilar> there's some distro of linux that can be installed like that, though, I think
[05:19] <Thugacation> damn
[05:19] <baconbits|sleep> Does anyone here have any experience with installing feisty to a bootable USB drive via the pendrivelinux tutorial? I'm having issues...
[05:19] <Thugacation> partition magic always destroys my hard drive
[05:19] <Thugacation> and i need to buy new ones
[05:19] <Spenser309> thugacation: ok, well theres this program called grub which is the boot loader of linux
[05:19] <JDLimbo> if you have a c:/ drive and an e:/ drive, those are separate partitions
[05:19] <Xintruder> youtube movies dont run in my browser. why?
[05:20] <JDLimbo> Thugacation, what OS are you currently running?
[05:20] <ArthurArchnix> !ask | baconbits|sleep
[05:20] <ubotu> baconbits|sleep: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[05:20] <Thugacation> Windows XP Pro on the C:\ drive (200gb)
[05:20] <Thugacation> then i have a E:\ drive which is 80gb
[05:20] <SR71-Blackbird> Xintruder, which browser.? are you using 64bit version?
[05:20] <Thugacation> with an old windows 98 os on it
[05:20] <Thugacation> but i dont really want to format it you know what im saying
[05:20] <jumpkick> is there an ubuntu games channel?
[05:20] <Xintruder> SR71-Blackbird: firefox, no, intel 32
[05:20] <TheEpitome> Thugacation: look for umsdos distribution on google and you will find a distro you are looking for
[05:20] <Spenser309> Thugacation: would you like to erase the entire 98 drive?
[05:21] <JDLimbo> Thugacation, in that case, ubuntu can partition it when you go to set it up
[05:21] <Thugacation> not really there's alot of good memories on there
[05:21] <Spenser309> JD is right
[05:21] <JDLimbo> 80 gb is more than enough space for ubuntu
[05:21] <SR71-Blackbird> Xintruder, try about:plugins to see if x-shockwave is mapped to flash
[05:21] <Thugacation> how much does the operating system itself take
[05:21] <Thugacation> in gb
[05:21] <TheEpitome> you can use gparted while booted into the ubuntu livecd to resize the fat/ntfs partition on C: first
[05:21] <Xintruder> SR71-Blackbird: I dont understand
[05:21] <nemilar> Thugacation: if you just want a bare install, 6GB is a good number
[05:21] <Spenser309> Thugacation:  about 10gb maximum
[05:22] <ghost> JDLimbo, heh I like how most linux disto's have tiny footprints
[05:22] <Palintheus> nemilar: still no go
[05:22] <SR71-Blackbird> Xintruder,  can you see application/x-shockwave-flash 	Shockwave Flash when you type about:plugins in firefox?
[05:22] <ghost> dsmalll on a floppy
[05:22] <JDLimbo> I started out with a dual partition because I wasn't ready to give up windows, but I always went into the ubuntu side because it can read/write to the windows side
[05:22] <baconbits> I followed the pendrivelinux tutorial to install feisty to a usb drive (persistent), but when I go to boot from the drive, I get "Could not find kernel image: linux" followed by a "Boot:" prompt. I have started over with the tutorial twice now, thinking perhaps I missed a step or made a typo, but I get the same result each time. The CD I am using has been checked for errors several times and comes up clean. Any suggestions?
[05:22] <JDLimbo> whereas windows can't
[05:22] <nemilar> Palintheus: sudo apt-cache install j2re1.4-mozilla-plugin
[05:22] <nemilar> Palintheus: copy/paste doesn't work with that?
[05:22] <nickrud> Thugacation: and that 10gb includes a 'lot' of apps, unlike windows
[05:22] <Palintheus> nemilar: nope
[05:22] <Thugacation> yeah but windows is a more powerful operating system
[05:22] <nemilar> Palintheus: it's not finding the package??
[05:22] <JDLimbo> final word is, if you want linux on your computer, you're going to have to reformat a partition
[05:22] <Palintheus> nemilar: it installs, java doesn't work
[05:22] <Spenser309> nickrud is correct
[05:22] <ghost> JDLimbo, only reason I still have a Vista partition is because vidya games
[05:23] <Palintheus> nemilar: *still doesn't
[05:23] <nemilar> Palintheus: have to ask, you restarted firefox?
[05:23] <JDLimbo> ghost: yeah I would still have it but I don't have time for video games anymore
[05:23] <ghost> Thugacation, more powerful?
[05:23] <Spenser309> Thugacation:  maybe power is in the eye of the beholder
[05:23] <SR71-Blackbird> baconbits, did you use FAT for the drive?
[05:23] <Palintheus> nemilar: yup
[05:23] <Thugacation> to me
[05:23] <bazhang> baconbits: you need to check if your bios allows for booting from usb
[05:23] <Thugacation> i can write my own application in vb.net to do pretty much what i need
[05:23] <ghost> JDLimbo, i am still trying to play BG2
[05:23] <ghost> and wine is to buggy
[05:23] <Xintruder> SR71-Blackbird: I dont know :(
[05:23] <nickrud> Thugacation: I consider how much control the os puts in my hands as 'power', and linux beats windows hands down on that front
[05:23] <ghost> for now...
[05:23] <nemilar> Palintheus: very strange, I donno
[05:23] <TheEpitome> Thugacation you are so wrong.  windows is a more end-user oriented operating system.  The only reason why it is more widely used now is it that game makers dont make linux games
[05:23] <Palintheus> nemilar: thanks anyway
[05:24] <baconbits> «bazhang» There is a USB option in the bios, and I set it to first priority. Would it matter which USB slot I plug it into? I have 6 on this laptop...
[05:24] <nemilar> Palintheus: good luck, have you checked the ubuntuforums?
[05:24] <Palintheus> nemilar: still searching there
[05:24] <mirdin76> everytime I change the settings or turn on or off my wireless card in network manager my system freezes
[05:24] <nemilar> tru
[05:24] <Spenser309> Thugacation:  Your vb skills wont mean anything on linux.  But if you spend a few days learning python you might find yourself in the same boat as before
[05:24] <ghost> TheEpitome, the thing about games is weird: If it was a copy protection issue then they can just drop that now. Ultra easy to copy/crack games in windows environment.
[05:24] <JDLimbo> ubuntu is a nice compromise for me. I can use the gui when I want to be lazy, but when I feel like getting my hands dirty in the cli I can go that way
[05:24] <SR71-Blackbird> Xintruder, what happens when you go to youtube? do you get the video thing loading or it's something else?
[05:24] <ghost> I think its reliance on DirectX
[05:24] <Palintheus> anyone else have any ideas on why Java would not work with j2re1.4-mozilla-plugin and sun6-java-plugin
[05:24] <Thugacation> cant i use a windows emulator to use vb on linux
[05:25] <Spenser309> sure
[05:25] <SR71-Blackbird> Xintruder, i was expecting some problems with flash.. that's why i asked you to check the plugins
[05:25] <JDLimbo> Thugacation, wine is the most popular windows emulating virtual machine
[05:25] <Thugacation> and i can install the microsoft .net framework on linux too
[05:25] <Thugacation> to make it run good like windows
[05:25] <bazhang> baconbits: the usb option might be for a usb external hard drive--not sure if that covers usb pen drives in all cases--I had an older computer that could boot from the former but not the latter
[05:25] <Spenser309> Thugacation: I'm not sure
[05:25] <Javid> there's a program that emulates it
[05:25] <JDLimbo> it can use native dll's if you have a dual boot set up actually.
[05:25] <JDLimbo> iirc
[05:25] <JDLimbo> I'm not big on wine
[05:25] <Thugacation> why not?
[05:25] <nickrud> Palintheus:  have you done  sudo update-alternatives --config java ?
[05:25] <Xintruder> SR71-Blackbird: flash works ok. But i get a blackbox in youtube for the movie and nothing happens afterwards
[05:25] <Spenser309> Thugacation: you can always fire up a virtual machine and install windows in it
[05:25] <TheEpitome> ghost: its not about copy protection, its about all the windows dlls being called by windows apps.  whats what the wine project does.  the DotGNU project is good for VB/C#/.NET stuff
[05:25] <Palintheus> nickrud: trying now
[05:26] <SR71-Blackbird> Thugacation, try mono...
[05:26] <Javid> mono is what I was looking for
[05:26] <Spenser309> SR71 has a good point
[05:26] <ghost> TheEpitome, DotGNU for those weird apps like say my cell phone sync software
[05:26] <nickrud> this is not a channel for debating the pros and cons of windows vs linux
[05:26] <ghost> stuff like that?
[05:26] <nemilar> aww mono, c#, vb, all that is garbage...Python is all anyone ever needs
[05:26] <baconbits> «bazhang» This is a newer laptop...like less than 6 months old. Is there any particular place to check for compatibility? What is the difference between a USB drive and an external hard drive? My USB drive is 8gb LOL!
[05:27] <JDLimbo> nickrud, not to mention its kind of a lopsided argument
[05:27] <Thugacation> why
[05:27] <SR71-Blackbird> Thugacation, it's so hard to get a game running.. I've never been able to get .NET working/// just for the heck of it /// let alone making it work better..
[05:27] <Thugacation> is python as versatile as vb.net
[05:27] <ghost> baconbits, the usb controler part?
[05:27] <Thugacation> yeah true
[05:27] <Thugacation> but .net is the future of microsoft so they say
[05:27] <Spenser309> Thugacation:  It's a very good language
[05:27] <JDLimbo> ID makes most of their games compatible with linux
[05:27] <baconbits> «ghost» I'm getting "Could not find kernel image: linux" when I try to boot feisty from my flash drive
[05:27] <nemilar> Thugacation: they also said that Vista was the future of microsoft.......
[05:27] <JDLimbo> heh
[05:27] <Spenser309> python that is
[05:27] <nemilar> not to mention windows ME
[05:27] <Thugacation> im sure they just need to work some kinks out, heh
[05:27] <nickrud> !offtopic | Thugacation Spenser309 jdh6403 nemilar nickrud
[05:27] <ubotu> Thugacation Spenser309 jdh6403 nemilar nickrud: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[05:28] <SR71-Blackbird> Thugacation, if you really can't live without .NET, put windows in a vm and put it there
[05:28] <bazhang> baconbits: then no worries on that front; I've had mixed luck with those tutorials on www.pendrivelinux.com ; just a tiny error will bork the whole deal--took me three tries to get it right the first time
[05:28] <TheEpitome> Thugaction: the future of microsoft should only matter to people who work there
[05:28] <nemilar> :( nickrud
[05:28] <Palintheus> nickrud: hmm ran the command same result...java not working
[05:28] <Thugacation> nickrud, U MAD?
[05:28] <nickrud> Thugacation: no, crazy not angry
[05:28] <SR71-Blackbird> Thugacation, I recommend rather to get mono working better..
[05:28] <Spenser309> lol
[05:28] <Javid> Thugacation, USE MONO :P
[05:28] <Thugacation> ok
[05:28] <Thugacation> mono-project.com
[05:29] <Spenser309> Thugacation: its easier to figure out what to do once you have a working environment
[05:29] <nickrud> Palintheus: are you on 64bit?
[05:29] <Spenser309> Thugacation:  Opportunities abound
[05:29] <Palintheus> nickrud: nope
[05:29] <SR71-Blackbird> Spenser309, but i miss some of the MS easiness sometimes.. with mono..
[05:29] <JDLimbo> so, no, you can't install to a folder on a windows partition, but it barely takes up any space and can read/write to partitions formatted in NTFS.
[05:30] <Spenser309> JDLimbo is right
[05:30] <Thugacation> what about with wubi-installer?
[05:30] <baconbits> «bazhang» man this is crazy, though. I've followed step by step three times total now, and I keep getting this error. Is it possible there's something wrong with my CD that the defect checker is missing? Is there any diagnostic I can do on the flash drive?
[05:30] <ghost> baconbits, is grub know the flashdrive is there / is it set up to boot from the flash drive?
[05:30] <ghost> better yet, does your motherboard support flashboot?
[05:30] <JDLimbo> with 280 Gb on your hard drive, you'll barely notice ubuntu at all
[05:31] <nickrud> Palintheus: dpkg -l '*java6*' | grep ^ii , make sure that  -bin -jre -plugin are installed.
[05:31] <Spenser309> Thugacation: I think wubi does exactly what you say
[05:31] <Spenser309> Thugacation:  I'd say just try it.
[05:31] <baconbits> «ghost» i know it supports boot from USB, but Bazhang informed me that it might not support flash drives, only external HDD that are USB, but I have no clue how to determine if my mobo supports it. My bios is currently set to boot from USB as first priority...I don't think I installed grub anywhere (Windows is on my HDD in my laptop, I just want ubuntu on my flash drive for portable-ness)
[05:31] <Thugacation> that's good to know
[05:32] <Spenser309> Thugacation: but make sure and backup like anytime you install a new os
[05:32] <ghost> baconbits, try a flashdrive distro
[05:32] <ghost> like slacks for flash
[05:32] <Robdgreat> nickrud: Palintheus was assisting me. I'm the one with the issue. trying that command
[05:32] <ghost> just to see if it wil lboot
[05:32] <ghost> then we can troubleshoot what the exact problem is
[05:33] <baconbits> «ghost» ok, will do. I'll be back in a bit, if you'll still be here
[05:33] <SR71-Blackbird> anyone has any idea how I can change the default sound control ... u know what the laptop button has... to sth else.. (not the hardware one)... I have this wheel thing that only controls the main volume... not too useful when i need to control headphone..
[05:33] <ghost> what is your notebook?
[05:33] <ghost> there are vendor specific programs for that
[05:33] <Spenser309> alright i got to go. I have to do my hw
[05:33] <ghost> (i Loooove thinkpads)
[05:33] <mirdin76> anyone know why windows wireless manager does nothing when I load a .inf file into it?
[05:33] <JDLimbo> heh homework
[05:34] <Robdgreat> nickrud: all 3 are installed
[05:34] <Spenser309> yea its painful
[05:34] <baconbits> Oh a quick question: How can I scrub the partitions I made from the USB drive without getting back onto the liveCD? Windows is just loading the small (750MB) partition of the 8gb flash drive.
[05:34] <bazhang> mirdin76: windows? as in windows xp?
[05:34] <patogen> http://<IP_ADDRESS>/test/2008-01-22-223323_1280x1024_scrot.png <-- xvid playback, http://<IP_ADDRESS>/test/2008-01-22-223839_1280x1024_scrot.png <-- dvd playbac
[05:34] <patogen> how come my videos look like that?
[05:34] <JDLimbo> hmm
[05:34] <patogen> It looks terrible
[05:34] <dude321> I'm intsalling ubuntu on an old windows 98 computer.  It currently connects to the internet via an external wirless reciever (made by 2wire).  Will I still be able to install the recievers software once I install ubuntu?
[05:34] <nickrud> Robdgreat: hm.  and when you ran   sudo update-alternatives --config java   you made sure that the sun was selected?
[05:35] <SR71-Blackbird> ghost, Toshiba Satellite
[05:35] <Robdgreat> right. 6
[05:35] <nickrud> Robdgreat: have you installed any other java plugins?
[05:35] <mirdin76> bazhang: yeah, ndiswrapper style
[05:35] <Thugacation> dude321: probly not
[05:36] <bazhang> mirdin76: youre asking about how to install windows drivers for windows xp? on #ubuntu ?
[05:36] <Spenser309> dude321: maybe try booting up a live cd.
[05:36] <ghost> SR71-Blackbird, I believe there is an app for that...
[05:36] <Robdgreat> nickrud: yeah, got gij, icedtea, 1.4, and 6 :|
[05:37] <ghost> see if there is a toshiba satilite wiki
[05:37] <ghost> i believe there is
[05:37] <ghost> if not some one should start one
[05:37] <mirdin76> bazhang, no, friend, I'm trying to understand my failure to load a windows wireless driver using ndiswrapper, or any other way for that matter
[05:37] <Thugacation> if i use the livecd first do i have to install anything
[05:37] <Thugacation> and i have full capabilities of the operation system
[05:37] <ArthurArchnix> dude321: If it works, it will probably be done using ndiswrapper and the drivers provided for windows.
[05:37] <baconbits> Sorry to ask again, but I think the first might have gotten overlooked: How can I scrub the partitions I made from the USB drive without getting back onto the liveCD? Windows is just loading the small (750MB) partition of the 8gb flash drive.
[05:38] <nickrud> Robdgreat: ls  /usr/lib/firefox/plugins , do you see an obvious java plugin listed?
[05:38] <Spenser309> Thugacation: yes
[05:38] <mirdin76> bazhang: but if I have any Windows XP questions I'll be sure to ask them here first as well
[05:38] <napster> Is there anyone of you guys, had used xitrix mini-frame computers?
[05:38] <Thugacation> cool
[05:38] <Spenser309> Thugacation:  It's preatty neato
[05:39] <Robdgreat> nickrud: libjavaplugin.so
[05:39] <bazhang> mirdin76: haha
[05:39] <jumpkick> anyone here have mouse problems playing quake wars?
[05:39] <nickrud> Robdgreat: ok, ls -l /usr/lib/firefox/plugin/libjavaplugin.so , that will show you what it is linked to
[05:39] <baconbits> Is that a no? LOL I guess I'll just get back on the livecd again since I know how to do it there. Just trying to cut some corners
[05:39] <mirdin76> bazhang: haha --ha
[05:40] <Robdgreat> nickrud: /etc/alternatives/firefox-javaplugin.so
[05:40] <cgs_bob> hello all.  can anyone tell me how to find broken symbolic links?
[05:40] <nickrud> Robdgreat: now ls -l /etc/alternatives/firefox-javaplugin.so , what does that link to?
[05:41] <Robdgreat> nickrud: amazing. /usr/lib/gcj-4.2/libgcjwebplugin.so looks like the problem
[05:42] <nickrud> Robdgreat: yes. That link should have been altered by the update-alternative.  try   sudo update-alternatives --config firefox-javaplugin.so
[05:42] <night_slither> gimp is pretty good but is there something else, an alternative that is better?
[05:42] <Thugacation> gimp sux
[05:43] <ghost> I don't know how to use gimp
[05:43] <ghost> i suck
[05:43] <night_slither> its decent, i know it would be difficult to write that much code
[05:43] <Nubbie> gimp is amazing.
[05:43] <Nubbie> all it needs is a UI overhaul.
[05:43] <Robdgreat> nickrud: That did it. Thanks a ton!
[05:43] <night_slither> i prefer corel draw over gimp
[05:44] <nickrud> Robdgreat: yw. Odd that we had to go all the way around
[05:44] <Robdgreat> nickrud: Wife won't use ubuntu without java.
[05:44] <vwfanatic> I seem to have lost video. When I play any video files, all I get is sound and no video. Do I need to install "codecs" to play AVI/MPG files?
[05:44] <nickrud> Robdgreat: the things we put with for love :)
[05:44] <night_slither> so are there any open source alternatives
[05:44] <Robdgreat> nickrud: amen
[05:44] <bazhang> vwfanatic: did you have video previously?
[05:44] <zcat[1]> java is OSS now isn't it?
[05:44] <vwfanatic> yes
[05:45] <bazhang> using compiz vwfanatic?
[05:45] <vwfanatic> Don't think so
[05:45] <bazhang> hmm
[05:45] <astro76> night_slither: inkscape
[05:45] <night_slither> has anyone had any luck with dreamweaver and wine?
[05:46] <bazhang> vwfanatic: try this: alt-f2 metacity --replace and then try the video again
[05:46] <night_slither> thanks astro
[05:46] <jay-oh-en> everytime i startup my cvomputer it says this internal error failed to initialize HAL!
[05:47] <StrangeCharm> new gutsy install / encrypted on a raid-five / 'error loading os'
[05:47] <vwfanatic> bazhang: unfortunately not
[05:47] <bazhang> vwfanatic: using which media player? and what format file
[05:47] <achandrashekar> all right guys i have a tough question to ask....Im okay with my way around a linux box, and can seem to build/put together things, like an asterisk box or a dns server or even a kickstart server...but seem to be hitting a professional snag when finding a job where they require a lot skill when it comes to scripting...i can vi around..but seems like im always falling short. any advice on interviewing better?? like
[05:47] <achandrashekar>  stuff will come up sed or awk..but my experiences have me rarely using them.
[05:48] <vwfanatic> bazhang: AVI/MPG/WMV -- Movie Player
[05:48] <astro76> !ot | achandrashekar
[05:48] <ubotu> achandrashekar: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[05:48] <goodmami> My friend has a thinkpad x61t, and is having wireless problems.  I have the same computer and I'm not having problems.  Both running Ubuntu Gutsy
[05:48] <bazhang> vwfanatic: tried others? such as vlc?
[05:48] <achandrashekar> how is this random chatter its very pertinent
[05:48] <vwfanatic> will try it now.
[05:48] <goodmami> I'm using iwl4965 driver, he's using ipw3945
[05:48] <StrangeCharm> godmami - what's s/he doing that you're not?
[05:49] <achandrashekar> ive contributed so much to this channel helping others...i just thought was kind of rude..
[05:49] <bazhang> achandrashekar: not the correct channel for that
[05:49] <ghost> goodmami i am using a t61 and i believe the cards are simmilar
[05:49] <night_slither> anybody using wine
[05:49] <ghost> no problems here
[05:49] <astro76> achandrashekar: this channel is ubuntu support only, try the offtopic channel there's plenty in there to answer
[05:49] <StrangeCharm> oh, well there's your problem goodmami - tell them to install the 4965
[05:49] <goodmami> StrangeCharm: I'm not sure why his computer loaded the ipw driver, since we did practically the same install
[05:49] <MrObvious> achandrashekar: It's not an Ubuntu question for needing help running your OS, but rather a question on what to study to improve job hunting skills, which belongs in something else. The OT channel is perfect.
[05:49] <goodmami> StrangeCharm: it is installed... he's using the 2.6.22-14 kernel.  he can find it with locate
[05:49] <Nubbie> !anyone | night_slither
[05:49] <ubotu> night_slither: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[05:50] <achandrashekar> so when when someone asks about a fglrx issue then its pertinent??? but when it comes to asking about how to write the code...its impertient?
[05:50] <achandrashekar> good grief
[05:50] <Nubbie> !patience | achandrashekar
[05:50] <ubotu> achandrashekar: The people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[05:50] <goodmami> StrangeCharm: how can he enable it?  I told him to try modprobe -r ipw3945 and modprobe iwl4965
[05:50] <astro76> achandrashekar: if you've been in here so much "helping" you'd know the rules... what's the problem with #ubuntu-offtopic ?? good grief indeed
[05:50] <boodah> after installing ati proprietary driver according to the ubuntu gutsy installation guide, it appears there's no window manager.  No borders on any window of a program i start and it starts in the top left corner of the screen.  Any ideas?
[05:50] <falconer> hi, I have 7.10. I tried upgrading to 8.04. But the process hangs right at the start. After downloading the upgrade tool
[05:50] <bazhang> achandrashekar: do you have an issue relating to a ubuntu install? if so this is the place
[05:50] <jay-oh-en> everytime i startup my cvomputer it says this internal error failed to initialize HAL!
[05:50] <vwfanatic> bazhang: black screen also
[05:50] <StrangeCharm> isn't there a gui utility? goodmami?
[05:50] <ghost> achandrashekar, I would go ahead and ask the question anyways. Rules are for Lawful characters
[05:50] <ploom> boodah, metacity --replace
[05:51] <falconer> Has anyone an idea of what to do?
[05:51] <MrObvious> achandrashekar: There's a big difference. If you came in saying what would help Ubuntu run better or something, sure.
[05:51] <Nubbie> you can't put handcuffs on a ghost... :o sorry i had to.
[05:51] <goodmami> ghost: thanks for the help, but I think i've got the problem narrowed down between two identical systems
[05:51] <achandrashekar> bazhang: yes Im looking to write a completely automated kickstart script that uses php as a methodlogy to allow me install various operting systems including ubuntu...can you aid?
[05:51] <nickrud> Nubbie: I was looking for something to say but you topped me :(
[05:51] <boodah> ploom that worked, how did you know? and do i need to do anything to make it stick now?
[05:51] <goodmami> StrangeCharm: does the regular wireless ui allow you to choose a driver?  (going to check)
[05:51] <achandrashekar> there is my question..
[05:51] <ghost> Nubbie, yesh
[05:51] <achandrashekar> above
[05:51] <ghost> lol
[05:52] <astro76> achandrashekar: try #linux
[05:52] <StrangeCharm> goodmami - i was thinking something like the restricted drivers manager
[05:52] <jay-oh-en> everytime i startup my cvomputer it says this internal error failed to initialize HAL!
[05:52] <goodmami> hmm
[05:52] <goodmami> when i  try and run it, it says "your hardware does not need restricted drivers"
[05:52] <goodmami> i'll ask him to try
[05:52] <Nubbie> achandrashekar: that's easy, all you need to do is include images of your operating systems (OEM installations!), and a simple script to format and expand the images to the disk.
[05:53] <StrangeCharm> well, are you sure the computers are identical?
[05:53] <crazywulf_> I've been having a very strange problem lately.....   It seems when I transfer/download large files via the internet or lan, all the sudden my mouse will get *extremely* laggy and my IP will drop all together.      What could be causing t his?
[05:53] <night_slither> well i do have a question here, why does Ubuntu 7.10 not saving my screen resolution and hangs for so long at the beginning of my boot while 6 did not
[05:53] <achandrashekar> hmm..i just feel sleighted..by the fact that over 100 questions about how to install bcm43x stuff. and how to deal with ndiswrapper have been answered by me..but a simple help issue is treated with go look else where....hmm....okay whatever
[05:53] <goodmami> StrangeCharm: we both have a Lenovo Thinkpad x61t.  I have more ram and the Intel Turbo Memory
[05:53] <MrObvious> jay-oh-en: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=75328
[05:53] <Nubbie> achandrashekar: make sure your disk has fdisk and dd on it, maybe gzip and you're set.
[05:53] <goodmami> StrangeCharm: actually, he might have the wlan card... lemme ask
[05:54] <ghost> achandrashekar, ugh, the bcm43xx
[05:54] <ghost> achandrashekar, that was the killing stroke that got me to stop using gentoo
[05:54] <vwfanatic> AVI / MPG files -- no video - only sound -- any suggestions?
[05:54] <ghost> vlc
[05:54] <vwfanatic> same thing
[05:54] <vwfanatic> :(
[05:54] <StrangeCharm> goodmami - it may be possible that he actually has *that* wireless card, and that is *actually* sucks
[05:54] <ghost> herm
[05:55] <ghost> vwfanatic, i know this is stupid but restart x serv?
[05:55] <Nubbie> achandrashekar: you have the wrong attitude in here. maybe you should stick to helping people, because you obviously don't take advice as well as you give it.
[05:55] <ghost> some times
[05:55] <MrObvious> achandrashekar: It's not that we don't like you and the help you put in here, but there are certain things that don't belong in here because the chatter generates confusion when you have 5 people at once needing to ask a question.
[05:55] <vwfanatic> ghost: are you referring to a complete reboot? or  CTRL+ALT+BKSP ? I've done that latter
[05:55] <MrObvious> achandrashekar: You're asking for job hunting advice, not operating system advice as far as I can tell, so that's why we're being this way.
[05:55] <ghost> achandrashekar, I don't think your infraction was a bad one. and looking at your question, I would ask in ##linux (and get the same kinda responce probably)
[05:55] <achandrashekar> Nubbie: thanks..you obviously know about attitude adjust...phsih....
[05:55] <MrObvious> achandrashekar: Obviously. :p
[05:56] <ghost> vwfanatic, maybe a reboot. Some times it works
[05:56] <goodmami> StrangeCharm: would it be possible that he could disable that WLAN card (if he has it) and use the built-in card?
[05:56] <goodmami> StrangeCharm: the WLAN card was an add-on option
[05:56] <vwfanatic> thanks, I'll be back if it doesn't. This install has PO'd me anyway, might just wipe it.
[05:56] <Greevous> I need to write a script that can e-mail a file at a certain time of day, but I don't know where to start...
[05:56] <soldats> achandrashekar, your question may be better suited for ##linux
[05:56] <vwfanatic> be back in a few
[05:56] <Nubbie> achandrashekar: if somebody tells you you're beyond the scope of the rules, take that advice and run with it. the more you sit in here and pout the less willing people will be to put up with it. that's all i'm saying. you're offtopic, take it where it belongs, in #ubuntu-offtopic
[05:56] <soldats> achandrashekar, not to be mean though
[05:57] <StrangeCharm> goodmami - wait, you think there are two wireless cards in the machine?
[05:57] <goodmami> the WLAN card is an expansion... uses the PCI slot (same slot where i have the Turbo Memory)
[05:57] <MrObvious> Obviously OT doesn't belong in here. Just like you don't stick a cat in water unless you want to be scratched.
[05:57] <MrObvious> lol
[05:57] <achandrashekar> not really no..it pertains to some very specific ubuntu related issues not prevalent in the forums.. very specific to custom installs not handled by tools such as Reconstructor
[05:57] <crazywulf_> I've been having a very strange problem lately.....   It seems when I transfer/download large files via the internet or lan, all the sudden my mouse will get *extremely* laggy and my IP will drop all together.      What could be causing t his?  I opened up system monitor during these *attacks* and there's the resources seem normal.   Seems as if just my mouse and connection are affected
[05:58] <StrangeCharm> goodmami - what does he get on an iwconfig?
[05:58] <goodmami> StrangeCharm: excuse me.. i might have meant WWAN
[05:58] <MrObvious> crazywulf_: Guess: Your hard drive is being used so much it's lagging your system beyond recognition.
[05:58] <goodmami> hold on
[05:58] <Nubbie> crazywulf_: what program are you using for these transfers?
[05:59] <StrangeCharm> goodmami - that makes more sense, but should not interfere
[05:59] <achandrashekar> carzywulf: you could run a top while the your are transfering the download and monitor system resources. this might give you insight into a resource issue
[05:59] <falconer> crazywulf try wget.
[06:00] <pulicoti> hello there
[06:00] <falconer> hi
[06:00] <pulicoti> please can someone gimme a trick to solve the problem i having when i try to get on yahoo games?
[06:01] <Nubbie> Seveas: pwn'd that.
[06:01] <paulo> hello all.. i was hoping i'd get some help here..  i'm trying to boot of a RAID-0 (mdadm), i have a separate non-RAID boot partition, i get to the Ubuntu splash screen & the system sits for a few minutes then drops me to BusyBox, i did a cat /proc/mdstat and while all the correct modules were loaded, it seems mdadm hadn't done it's thing by the time the kernel tried to mount the root partition..  anyone else deal with this before?
[06:01] <goodmami> StrangeCharm: http://pastebin.osuosl.org/5054
[06:01] <Nubbie> pulicoti: do the yahoo games utilize shockwave?
[06:01] <pulicoti> the problem is with javas
[06:01] <goodmami> that's from his iwconfig... it's only eth1.  eth0 said "no wireless extensions"
[06:01] <falconer> pulicoto more infos
[06:01] <pulicoti> ok
[06:02] <StrangeCharm> goodmami - well, that supports the assertion that there is only one wlan card, whether or not there is a wwan card
[06:02] <pulicoti> it asks to upgrade the java
[06:02] <falconer> pulicoti, does java work, like at java.com?
[06:02] <goodmami> hmm
[06:02] <rafaelsoaresbr> in your opinion, whats the best iptables rules manager? firestarter, etc...
[06:02] <tommstein> what's with ctrl+tab not switching virtual desktops in ubuntu's kde like it always has in every other kde?
[06:02] <pulicoti> when i try to do it from the sun java i get the package for suse only
[06:02] <douglas> hello
[06:02] <nickrud> pulicoti: install sun-java6-plugin
[06:02] <goodmami> StrangeCharm: so is it possible to get his machine to use the iwl driver instead of the ipw driver?
[06:02] <nickrud> pulicoti: from the repos
[06:02] <douglas> i have a poblem with openoffice
[06:02] <pulicoti> i did but it didnt work
[06:02] <Nubbie> tommstein: you mean "alt" tab?
[06:02] <StrangeCharm> goodmami - i don't know
[06:03] <goodmami> StrangeCharm: heh... ok
[06:03] <nickrud> pulicoti: sudo update-alternatives --config firefox-javaplugin.so , choose sun
[06:03] <pulicoti> i id install sun_java plug in 6
[06:03] <tommstein> Nubbie, no, that changes between programs on the current desktop, ctrl+tab is supposed to switch between desktops
[06:03] <StrangeCharm> new gutsy install
[06:03] <StrangeCharm> encrypted on a raid-five
[06:03] <StrangeCharm> 'error loading os'
[06:03] <Xabriel> I've got a fresh install of gutsy, and I just set it up to dual boot with XP, and now gutsy isn't detecting any of the updates
[06:04] <vwfanatic> What's the command in Terminal to display the contents of say... /etc/fstab ?
[06:04] <nickrud> vwfanatic: cat /etc/fstab
[06:04] <vwfanatic> And my video still isn't working
[06:04] <falconer> ls
[06:04] <rafaelsoaresbr> tip of the day: disables network-manager :)
[06:04] <falconer> oh vat
[06:04] <falconer> cat
[06:04] <falconer> cat /etc/fstab
[06:04] <vwfanatic> thanks nickrud
[06:05] <vwfanatic> and falconer
[06:05] <Nubbie> vwfanatic: if you wish to edit that file, use nano.
[06:05] <pulicoti> thanx nickrud i will do it
[06:05] <genewitch> hey guys i wanted to thank you all for your help and support, but i have to install a non-debian OS for my touchpad to work
[06:05] <genewitch> :-(
[06:05] <nickrud> sudoedit is a nice quick way to nano a file
[06:05] <vwfanatic> I like nano!
[06:06] <nickrud> !synaptics | genewitch (not saying it will certainly help ... )
[06:06] <ubotu> genewitch (not saying it will certainly help ... ): For a comprehensive Synaptics Touchpad guide, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticsTouchpad
[06:06] <genewitch> nickrud: Yah it's a kernel issue, nothing can be done easily
[06:06] <wikityler> My computer is locking up every 5-15 mins. i'm only able to run in reduced graphics mode. how do i diagnose the problem?
[06:06] <teste_teste> alguem fala portugues?
[06:06] <nickrud> genewitch: oh, an odd old one?
[06:06] <nickrud> genewitch: just nosy, that's me
[06:06] <astro76> !pt | teste_teste
[06:06] <ubotu> teste_teste: Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt para ajuda em português. Obrigado.
[06:07] <vwfanatic> Okay, for some reason my AVI/MPG/WMV files will no longer display video. Tried VLC and a reboot. Running 7.10 Ubuntu. I did try to install some Video Editing/Capture, but they weren't what I needed, so I removed them. Since then, no video
[06:07] <jshewey> How can I get two different X sessions running so that can run myth on one videocard/monitor combo and kde on another?
[06:07] <genewitch> nickrud: No i'm on 7.10 ubuntu, it's a known issue (or so i've sorta read)
[06:07] <paulo> has anyone here gotten a mdadm RAID-0 as their root partition or know where there's a guide to setting it up?
[06:08] <Xabriel> anybody know how to force gutsy to update? even if it woln't detect any?
[06:08] <jshewey> paulo: ive got one running now.
[06:08] <bazhang> vwfanatic: sounds like when you uninstalled that video capture stuff you may have uninstalled other items important to your video viewing
[06:08] <Flannel> Xabriel: what do you mean?
[06:08] <jshewey> paulo: you will need to use the alt install cd, this can not be done using standard CD setup cd.
[06:08] <douglas> alguien habla spanish
[06:08] <nickrud> Xabriel: if there's nothing to upgrade, there's nothing to upgrade
[06:08] <vwfanatic> I'm thinking so also
[06:08] <bazhang> !es
[06:08] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[06:08] <Xabriel> but it's a fresh install, and i KNOW there's updates
[06:08] <jshewey> paulo: unless of course, you are using hardware RAID
[06:08] <douglas> thank!
[06:09] <bazhang> no worries :}
[06:09] <nickrud> Xabriel: system->admin->software sources, make sure the first four are enabled and the cdrom is not
[06:09] <paulo> jshewey: i used the alt cd to install to a single drive, now i've gotten 3 more drives and i'm trying to make them into a raid-0 & move my system over
[06:09] <paulo> jshewey: eventually expanding back onto the initial drive
[06:09] <rafaelsoaresbr> !firewall
[06:09] <ubotu> Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).
[06:10] <jshewey> paulo: So, you want to add the origional drive into the raid array, making for a total of four?
[06:10] <Xabriel> nickrud, lol, I forgot about that :P
[06:10] <Xabriel> nickrud, thanks
[06:10] <paulo> jshewey: i am gonna keep a regular non-raid boot partition on each drive for the system to boot off (i don't think you can have /boot on a raid-0 or 5 md device, correct?)
[06:10] <nickrud> rafaelsoaresbr: you can search thru the bot with  /msg uboto factoid
[06:10] <Falstius> I have a tv capture card that uses the saa7134 modules.  To get sound I have to run sox, but this uses 10% of my 1.4GHz processor.  Is there a less cpu intensive solution? (Running Gutsy)
[06:10] <nickrud> Xabriel: np
[06:10] <julz> my gnome-panel fails to startup when i boot. does anyone know how to fix this? i'm running xubuntu 7.10
[06:11] <paulo> jshewey: well, eventually, my problem right now is i have the 3 drives in a raid-0, my fstab and grub config all set up, but when i try to boot with md0 as my root partition the system stops for a few minutes, then drops to BusyBox
[06:12] <paulo> jshewey: if i cat /proc/mdstat it hasn't created any devices yet
[06:12] <yao_ziyuan> kubuntu's top priority should be east asian language display (fonts) and input (input methods)
[06:12] <yao_ziyuan> period.
[06:12] <yao_ziyuan> or bill gates will still be alive
[06:12] <bazhang> yao_ziyuan: issues with scim?
[06:13] <ploom> yao_ziyuan, you are talking it with ubuntu being defaulted to english
[06:13] <venger> is there a log that would tell me why I get "Desktop effects could not be enabled" when I change Appearance Preferences to Extra?  DRI and COMPOSITE is enable according to my Xorg.O.log and fglrxinfo looks good
[06:13] <paulo> jshewey: so i assume it means mdadm hasn't created /dev/md0 by the time the kernel is trying to mount the root partition.. that's just my guess tho', it's my first time setting this up
[06:13] <yao_ziyuan> bazhang: chinese support should be installed as easily as in ubuntu -- just check "Complex script input" and the input methods are there
[06:13] <VvWolverinevV> hi, i have a question about typing in terminal, how do i go up a line?
[06:13] <bazhang> yao_ziyuan: I'm using kubuntu and no worries here
[06:14] <VvWolverinevV> im able to delete the characters in one line but not the previous one
[06:14] <jshewey> paulo: some things to try: mount your md device from a boot disk and chroot into it to see if you get a working system. If this works, then try manually assembling your md array from busybox and then chrooting into it and see if you can pull up a working system. If this works, everthing is probably in order, you just need to rebuild your initrd file
[06:14] <vwfanatic> bazhang: what do you suggest about the video?
[06:14] <yao_ziyuan> bazhang: i'm speaking from a commoner's perspecive
[06:14] <ploom> VvWolverinevV, terminal, once there is bash answering you, there is no way to delete previous rows
[06:14] <jshewey> paulo: I'm guessing it's your initrd file that needs to be rebuilt.
[06:14] <VvWolverinevV> ploom: no bash answer
[06:14] <nickrud> lol, yao_ziyuan I can relate to that :)
[06:15] <ploom> VvWolverinevV, you should try nano as editor or vi
[06:15] <jshewey> paulo: it probably does not have the modifed mdadm.conf and fstab files.
[06:15] <bazhang> vwfanatic: eh. well probably need to reinstall any of the things that got uninstalled
[06:15] <bazhang> yao_ziyuan: a commoner? same here :}
[06:15] <lancer> so bored here
[06:15] <jshewey> paulo: you can double check by cating these files from busybox
[06:15] <mattetch> hello my name is matt, and ive been gettin nothing but trouble trying to get ubuntu installed on my laptop,im not a newb at this, actually its a breeze on my other computer
[06:15] <fanin> hi all
[06:15] <nickrud> lancer: the wiki could use some help ;)
[06:15] <ploom> yao_ziyuan, who is commoner?
[06:16] <yao_ziyuan> and i don't want to read any "quickstart guide"
[06:16] <yao_ziyuan> ploom: commoner = general user
[06:16] <ploom> yao_ziyuan, ubuntu users group is like a commune
[06:16] <goodmami> StrangeCharm: yeah well no luck on the iwl4965 front.  thanks for all your help though
[06:16] <yao_ziyuan> ploom: commoner = average joe
[06:16] <nickrud> mattetch: what issues in particular?
[06:16] <bazhang> true but waaaaay offtopci
[06:16] <ploom> yao_ziyuan, you either consider yourself blonging here and do things in ubuntu way or make your own operating system
[06:16] <mattetch> i have both a copy of x32 and x64, both crash after install with no graphics
[06:16] <julz> Hi. Gnome-panel fails to startup on a new installation of Gutsy. Is there a way to fix this? I had the same problem with Fiesty...
[06:16] <paulo> jshewey: okay, before i reboot to try that let me be sure..  i tried to do mdadm --auto-detect from BusyBox and it said "CREATE user root not found"..  do you mean to mount md from a LiveCD or from BusyBox..  also as far as rebuilding initrd, does update-initramfs do that or do i need to do something else too?
[06:17] <yao_ziyuan> wait,
[06:17] <ploom> yao_ziyuan, by the way - ubuntu way is almost the same as debian way
[06:17] <yao_ziyuan> i'm speaking in the wrong channel
[06:17] <yao_ziyuan> i'm talking about kubuntu
[06:17] <nickrud> mattetch: what video chip do you have?  lspci | grep -i vga will tell you if you're not exactly sure
[06:17] <bazhang> offtopic there too yao_ziyuan
[06:17] <mattetch> intergrated nvidia
[06:17] <yao_ziyuan> ubuntu's east asian language display and input is perfect - except that some chinese characters like "you" have a different font in gedit
[06:18] <nickrud> mattetch: exactly which? Matters
[06:18] <yao_ziyuan> for ubuntu,
[06:18] <jshewey> paulo: update-initramfs will update this.
[06:18] <yao_ziyuan> ubuntu's top priority should be integrating more pretty gtk2 themes
[06:18] <mattetch> i sec
[06:18] <bazhang> :{
[06:18] <yao_ziyuan> ubuntu's default theme is ok,
[06:18] <julz> Can a live CD do a repair install? is there such thing?
[06:18] <interceptor> !ru
[06:18] <ubotu> Пожалуйста посетите #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке  / Pozhalujsta posetite #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke
[06:18] <yao_ziyuan> but people need more pretty themes to switch between
[06:18] <ploom> yao_ziyuan, then this is not ubuntu your're actually talking, but GTK toolkit in general
[06:18] <kahrytan> julz➲  No
[06:18] <interceptor> #ubuntu-ru
[06:19] <yao_ziyuan> ploom: i'm talking about integrating more pretty gtk2 themes from gnome-look.org
[06:19] <jshewey> paulo: you need to try assembling your RAID array from a live CD. then you need to mount proc and tempfs. then chroot to the mounted array.
[06:19] <mattetch> nvidia geforce go 6150
[06:19] <kahrytan> julz➲  but you use live cd to repair ubuntu.
[06:19] <julz> kahrytan: k thanks, guess illhave to go the hard way lol
[06:19] <yao_ziyuan> ploom: those most downloaded or highest rated, like Aurora and Nimbus
[06:19] <kahrytan> julz➲  what's wrong with the install?
[06:19] <paulo> ok
[06:19] <jshewey> paulo: if this works, you have manually booted your system. if this does not you have problems with your drives.
[06:20] <ploom> yao_ziyuan, in case you have bugs to report, then go for it!
[06:20] <rampeltilsken> wah....how to become expert in ubuntu
[06:20] <yao_ziyuan> otherwise, ubuntu is universally usable now
[06:20] <julz> kahrytan: haha thats what i mean t lol. the gnome palen never starts up, i have just got a desktop. same problem i had on fiesty followed me to gutsy. thankyou :)
[06:20] <mattetch> hello my name is matt, and ive been gettin nothing but trouble trying to get ubuntu installed on my laptop,im not a newb at this, actually its a breeze on my other computer
[06:20] <mattetch> nvidia geforce go 6150
[06:20] <jshewey> paulo: if you can do this, then repeat the process from busybox. If it works with busybox, you know that it is simply a file configuration problem. If it does not (perhaps you recieve a segfault or something) then you know it is a problem with the busybox environment.
[06:21] <yao_ziyuan> however, it seems people in general are just ok with an operating system with one visual style, like win95/98/2000/xp
[06:21] <kahrytan> julz➲  Mount the hard drive and read the logs
[06:21] <paulo> jshewey: okay cool..  so i'll boot off a liveCD, partition my drives up, create the RAID-0 array, copy my current system to this array, then mount proc and tempfs and chroot to the raid-0
[06:21] <ploom> yao_ziyuan, the best thing to do about gtk2 themes is to make them work your way too or even make your own ideal one
[06:21] <paulo> jshewey: how do i know if there's a problem at that point?  i'll get errors from chroot?
[06:21] <yao_ziyuan> those who do care for pretty visual styles will automatically go to gnome-look.org
[06:21] <ploom> yao_ziyuan, the second best thing (when you feel not being able to do so) would be to report bugs
[06:22] <nickrud> mattetch: hm, that's supposed to be an easy one. The way I understand it you have an install on it, but it freezes with something about rc.local  [OK] on the screen
[06:22] <mattetch> i need help
[06:22] <napster> If I forgot my root password, how could I retrieve my password?
[06:22] <kahrytan> !root| napster➲
[06:22] <ubotu> napster➲: Do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth... there is no root password. Then you will see that it is 'sudo' that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[06:22] <paulo> jshewey: sorry to be so out of the loop.. just switched back to Linux after a 13 year hiatus
[06:22] <mattetch> it just hard crashes
[06:22] <julz> kahrytan: can i do this without the terminal? when i load the terminal it logs me out :S
[06:22] <nickrud> mattetch: hard crash doesn't really say anything, to help with troubleshooting we need more detail
[06:23] <kahrytan> julz➲  doh. you could do it from bash. but try loading xsession
[06:23] <mattetch> it boots but right before getting in to a gui environment
[06:23] <mattetch> it crashes hard ,
[06:23] <nickrud> mattetch:  what's the last thing on the screen?
[06:24] <julz> kahrytan: bugger, i have to go pick my sister up. thanks for the help, i might catchya you on someother time if i still have th eprobkem
[06:24] <kahrytan> julz➲  If you reach GDM, change startup options just to xsession or something other then gnome.
[06:24] <mattetch> multiple colors streamed like tyedye
[06:24] <nickrud> ah, that's a hard crash all right
[06:24] <kahrytan> julz➲  it load xwindows and from there, you can use terminal to see if gnome starts there
[06:24] <mattetch> my screens starts to buzz
[06:25] <mattetch> computers fans turn off and i get a temp sensor alarm
[06:25] <nickrud> mattetch: you have more than one screen plugged in? unplug the external monitor
[06:25] <mattetch> its a laptop
[06:25] <nickrud> mattetch: you said screens
[06:25] <mattetch> typo
[06:25] <ozzloy> nickrud: i think that was a ytop
[06:25] <nickrud> ok
[06:25] <Nubbie> mattetch: maybe you need to have your laptop serviced... perhaps the fan is dysfunctional?
[06:25] <StrangeCharm> new gutsy install
[06:26] <StrangeCharm> encrypted on a raid-five
[06:26] <StrangeCharm> 'error loading os'
[06:26] <nickrud> ozzloy: seen something similar on an install with the external plugged in once
[06:26] <mattetch> i think the machines ok, because it runs windoze fine, but wont run any other os
[06:26] <paulo> jshewey!!  :'(
[06:26] <nickrud> mattetch: but the live cd works fine?
[06:26] <kr00l> w can i mount a virtual .iso?
[06:26] <StrangeCharm> first two lines entered / someone exits IRC / break in my haiku
[06:27] <kr00l> how can i mount a virtual .iso?
[06:27] <nickrud> !iso | kr00l
[06:27] <ubotu> kr00l: To mount an ISO disc image, type « sudo mount -o loop <ISO-filename> <mountpoint> » - There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion - Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before !burning.
[06:27] <paulo> kr00l: gmount-iso has a nice gui
[06:27] <mattetch> it wont load the live cd, it will run the installer, but no more than that
[06:27] <StrangeCharm> kr001: gmount iso?
[06:27] <StrangeCharm> kr001 not a command, and app
[06:27] <ozzloy> StrangeCharm: don't worry about it, i got /ignore QUITS
[06:28] <kr00l> I need help with my audio. I have a 5.1 onboard audio and my microphone doesn't work.
[06:28] <StrangeCharm> ozzloy: that makes me feel better. unfortunately, it doesn't help this massive paperweight under my bed. though, i am considering taking only in haiku for a while
[06:29] <ozzloy> StrangeCharm: that was totally not a haiku, not even a little bit
[06:30] <ozzloy> StrangeCharm: though the last one was quite amusing and quick
[06:30] <StrangeCharm> ozzloy - considering usually indicates that i haven't started yet :p
[06:30] <bazhang> please join #ubuntu-haiku
[06:30] <xsfr> command to open a sudo file manager? (gksudo natrulis)?
[06:30] <Flannel> xsfr: gksu nautilus, yes
[06:30] <nickrud> bazhang: there was a pre existing #ubuntu-haiku ??
[06:31] <StrangeCharm> bazhang, nickrud - actually, there's already someone there
[06:31] <bazhang> nickrud: just a joke--seeing how offtopic most people seem to be today
[06:31] <bazhang> StrangeCharm: that is funny :}
[06:31] <nickrud> bazhang: and I've been trying to be good too
[06:32] <bazhang> as have we all nickrud :}
[06:32] <StrangeCharm> bazhang, his response to my entry was 'what the f is this' and mine 'ubuntu haiku / discussing human linux / speech somewhat impaired'
[06:32] <StrangeCharm> oh, he's gone :(
[06:32] <ozzloy> hahaha
[06:33] <bazhang> StrangeCharm: we are all dangerously offtopic today :}
[06:34] <StrangeCharm> fleeting alt channel / only one participant / lonely offtopic
[06:34] <bazhang> yao_ziyuan: you should consider joining ubuntu-marketing; seriously
[06:34]  * nickrud finds StrangeCharm an appropriate nick
[06:34] <yao_ziyuan> bazhang: haha
[06:34] <bazhang> yao_ziyuan: no really
[06:35] <Nubbie> it seem slike everybody went to bed anyways.
[06:35] <Nubbie> who cares.
[06:35] <StrangeCharm> flamsmark was my name / made up on the spot one day / not so expressive
[06:35] <yao_ziyuan> too often people are missing top priorities
[06:36] <JSharp> hmm, I recently did a clean install of Hardy and now I'm having some trouble getting my wacom tablet to work, I've updated the installation and am current with the repository. When I add the InputDevice sections back to xorg.conf and readd the serverlayout section, the x server crashes and restarts GDM when I log in, but the tablet seems to work okay before that
[06:36] <UberDay> can someone help me every time i go to boot up and connect to the net hitting wired network my pc freezes up can anyone help me figure out why or tell me how to fix this?
[06:36] <JSharp> has anyone encountered something similar?
[06:36] <nickrud> !ubuntu+1 | JSharp
[06:36] <ubotu> JSharp: hardy is Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - CONSIDER IT TO BE PRE BETA (ALPHA) SOFTWARE - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[06:36] <bazhang> #ubuntu+1 JSharp
[06:36] <JSharp> thank you
[06:36] <co_be100> lkhjlkj
[06:37] <yao_ziyuan> how do linux pcs sell in the US market?
[06:37] <yao_ziyuan> how much market share do they have now?
[06:37] <nickrud> yao_ziyuan: probably .001%
[06:37] <spee> i cant change the brightness of my lcd screen using the function keys on my laptop
[06:37] <yao_ziyuan> nickrud: why?
[06:37] <spee> oh yea i forgot nobody in this channel ever answers questions
[06:37] <nickrud> yao_ziyuan: but #ubuntu-marketing probably has real numbers
[06:37] <arjuna> what is a alternative to amule?
[06:37] <spee> bigest channel i know of on this network and nobody answers questions
[06:37] <nickrud> spee: neither can I
[06:37] <spee> most questions asked per hour though i sure
[06:38] <spee> nickrud can you change your volume? i can do that suprisingly
[06:38] <yao_ziyuan> thank u for hinting that channel
[06:38] <Profanephobia> !patience
[06:38] <ubotu> The people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[06:38] <nickrud> spee: screen brightness is the only thing that doesn't work (actually, I can do max bright and max dark)
[06:39] <^TheCrono> i have a spare 17gb..i want to give it its own ext3 partition..can the mount point be somethign made up like /extra/?
[06:39] <spee> nickrud using the function keys on your laptop?
[06:39] <nickrud> spee: yes
[06:39] <^TheCrono> ive used /home/ already
[06:39] <StrangeCharm> spee is impatient / belittling the channel / questions answered
[06:39] <spee> it goes to max bright when i plug in, and dims to max dim when i unplug
[06:39] <bazhang> spee: you should check power settings for that iirc
[06:39] <spee> StrangeCharm i usually go to other channels just because this channel is so slow on answering
[06:39] <nickrud> ^TheCrono: you can mount it as /data , or maybe /home/data , or /home/<you>/data
[06:39] <crwlr> hey i'm having a brainfart and can't remember how to setup a workgroup
[06:40] <yao_ziyuan> have a problem with this: http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php/Aurora+Gtk+Engine?content=56438
[06:40] <arjuna> what is a alternative to amule?
[06:40] <yao_ziyuan> i only can use Aurora's widgets
[06:40] <^TheCrono>  i can do /spare/ ?
[06:40] <spee> does anyone know how i can make fsck run verbosely during the startup sequence? i have the splash screen disabled
[06:40] <yao_ziyuan> not its window titles
[06:40] <nickrud> ^TheCrono: any name you like
[06:40] <^TheCrono> ok
[06:40] <spee> and fsck doesnt say much while its running
[06:40] <^TheCrono> thx
[06:40] <^TheCrono> i'm installing kubuntu for the first time :D...but kubuntu channel; is busy
[06:40] <bazhang> spee: you also have to consider that this is the middle of night for many folks
[06:41] <nemilar> or at least, for the part of the world that matters
[06:41] <bazhang> !p2p | arjuna
[06:41] <ubotu> arjuna: Peer-to-peer filesharing clients are available for several networks/protocols, including !BitTorrent, !Gnutella, !eDonkey, !DirectConnect, !SoulSeek - Multi-protocol engines include !MLDonkey and !giFT - See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/P2PFileSharing for general information
[06:41] <Thugacation> why install kubuntubu over ubuntu
[06:41] <Thugacation> why?
[06:41] <^TheCrono> i'm not
[06:41] <pulicoti> Bloody hell yahoo games asks for java 6-3 and sends me to download it to the sun site, but thats good for suse not for ubuntu.I have installed sun-java6-jre and sun-java6-plugin, after that i did sudo update-alternatives --config firefox-javaplugin.so and it says : there is only one program which provides firefox - javaplugin.so (/usr/lib/jvm/java-6-sun/jre/plugin/i386/ns7/libjavaplugin_oji.so) . Nothing to configure.
[06:41] <^TheCrono> i'm installing kubuntu from an empty HD
[06:41] <krub> spee fsck  do not normally become verbose lest it has to do some repair
[06:41] <spee> Thugacation that is a good question
[06:41] <Nubbie> Thugacation: there is no explanation. lol.
[06:41] <StrangeCharm> spee: popularity / with many novice users / there are ups and downs
[06:41] <^TheCrono> but no oen could answer me in kubuntu