[06:26] <jacquesmerde> after doing an apt-get source package, and editing package/debian/rules, how do i install it?
[06:26] <Zoffix> FakeOutdoorsman, well, when I was installing Edgy somehow I got it compiled in seconds. For some reason when I insert the CD into CD-ROM I don't get that message "Found some packages on CD, wanna install some?" message as I did on Edgy :/ it's a 700MB ISO, should headers be there? Or even any packages that are not installed by default.
[06:27] <linuxbomb> fsckit, how are you trying to copy it?
[06:27] <fsckit> cables, it won't even let me copy it at all, it gives me the error. for that and 3 other songs with non-english characters
[06:27] <Punkunity> hey is there a torrent chan??
[06:27] <Punkunity> anyone?
[06:27] <cables> fsckit, that's weird... I'm not sure what to tell you.
[06:27] <fsckit> linuxbomb, drag and drop, copy/paste, whatever
[06:27] <cables> Punkunity, #bittorrent
[06:27] <ra21vi> fsckit: i/o problem
[06:27] <Punkunity> ty cables
[06:27] <fsckit> i suppose i could use my windows VM, but i hate to resort to it
[06:28] <dotpavan> anybody got Tomcat 6 working with JDK 1.6?
[06:28] <linuxbomb> fsckit, try using cli
[06:28] <Punkunity> how do i make a different torrent program besides BitTorrent the default downloading program???
[06:28] <Yggdrasil> fsckit what are you trying to do ?
[06:29] <cables> Punkunity, first of all, remove two of your three question marks. Second of all, right click a torrent file, go to properties, and change the Open With option.
[06:29] <fsckit> Yggdrasil, copy an mp3 from cd to my ubuntu hdd but it's got a non-english character
[06:29] <Yggdrasil> mhmm
[06:29] <Punkunity> hmm
[06:29] <kr3ml> hey, I cant play youtube videos... I cant seems to install flash player... I tried to install gnash... nothing seems to work... it even came to the point where it doesnt even show messege that I need a flash plugin when I visit youtube, the player just shows up and nothing happens... I on ubuntu fiesty ...the 64bit verison... someone help pls? :(
[06:29] <FakeOutdoorsman> Zoffix: your cd is probably not in your sources list.  you can add it with this command: "sudo apt-cdrom add" then update the sources list with "sudo apt-get update" (or sudo aptitude update)
[06:29] <Yggdrasil> fsckit cp /mnt/cdrom/song*.mp3 ./ ?
[06:30] <Yggdrasil> oh its a cd ?
[06:30] <Punkunity> and that will change the way it opens in firefox as the default program??
[06:30] <cables> kr3ml, flash doesn't work on 64 bit (or at least it's not easy to get working)
[06:30] <disinterested> kr3ml did u add repositories?
[06:30] <Yggdrasil> oh its an mp3
[06:30] <Yggdrasil> haha
[06:30] <nathan_> Hi all
[06:30] <kr3ml> repositories?
[06:30] <Staz_> hey nathan_
[06:30] <godlygeek> how about this: is there any way to get debugging information from gnome as it's starting its startup applications?
[06:30] <cables> Punkunity, you only removed one question mark... you need to ask with ONE question mark per question.
[06:30] <Zoffix> FakeOutdoorsman, ok, thanks. Let me try that.
[06:30] <jscinoz> Hey everyone, I recently attempted to install Trevino's patched kernel (suspend2 and other fixes) but am having some problems, is anyone willing to help me troubleshoot it?
[06:30] <cables> Punkunity, no, you need to change that in Firefox settings
[06:31] <Punkunity> cables why the hell does that really matter, if you dont want to help man its cool
[06:31] <nathan_> Linux just gets better and better.
[06:31] <cables> Punkunity, I just DID help.
[06:31] <Punkunity> geezus H
[06:31] <Toma-> jscinoz: i might try... but 3rd party repos are a no-go for support and bugs
[06:31] <Eythan> Maybe someone else can help me
[06:31] <Luakagon> What is the md5sum of the 7.04 iso of ubuntu for pc?
[06:31] <dotpavan> hi, wondering if anybody got Tomcat 6 working with JDK 1.6?
[06:31] <godlygeek> i'd be thrilled if gnome could just print a timestamp and the script it's exec'ing for each thing it execs...
[06:31] <nathan_> Although I had a couple issues with the Feisty.   It was rather feisty to get working the way I wanted. :P
[06:31] <kr3ml> whats repositories!?
[06:31] <Toma-> Luakagon: alternat, desktop or server?
[06:31] <Punkunity> yeah bro i appreciate the help cables but I think most people cab do away with the attitude
[06:31] <Punkunity> can
[06:31] <cables> !repositories | kr3ml
[06:31] <ubotu> kr3ml: The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[06:31] <Yggdrasil> whats taters
[06:32] <mike71b> I'm back, I never could get VirtualBox to load the virtual xp it's wizard created... Stayed at zero percent .
[06:32] <Toma-> Luakagon: ftp://ftp.iinet.net.au/pub/ubuntu-releases/7.04/MD5SUMS
[06:32] <nathan_> Anyone know how to mount usr and home on same partition?
[06:32] <cables> Punkunity, you're wasting my bandwidth with your extra question marks. I just helped you, we can end this discussion now.
[06:32] <Luakagon> Toma- desktop
[06:32] <variant> cables: chil man it's only irc
[06:32] <Toma-> Luakagon: check out that link i spammed
[06:32] <fsckit> Yggdrasil, how do i input the spanish n?
[06:32] <jscinoz> alright. basically during the install it gave me "Could not find postinst hook script [update-grub] , subprocess install script returned error exit status 2
[06:32] <Punkunity> extra bandwidth form question marks....hahah yeah i guess if you have dial up...hahahaa
[06:32] <mike71b>  I installed Vmware player, now what do I need to do to install windows onto a partition or virtual machine ?
[06:32] <Yggdrasil> fsckit just use a *
[06:33] <Yggdrasil> instead of it
[06:33] <fsckit> surely i'm just missing a pack or something for me to display foreign characters right, aren't i?
[06:33] <Toma-> jscinoz: are you using edgy?
[06:33] <jscinoz> and the new kernel is unavailable to use, and it tries to fix it everytime i modify something with apt, fails to fix it etc
[06:33] <jscinoz> no fiesty
[06:33] <cjae> variant, that's what I thought. How do I create a bug report of something like the ktorrent crashes I am experiencing?
[06:33] <Toma-> jscinoz: has trevino even made a feisty repo yet?
[06:33] <jscinoz> yes
[06:33] <jscinoz> http://3v1n0.tuxfamily.org/dists/feisty/index.html
[06:33] <variant> cjae: you need a launchpad account, you can sign up on ubuntu website
[06:33] <Eythan> I'm trying to do a dual-install with ubuntu, and it kind of successfully boots from the disk, to the screen with all the options. I choose the first option, "start or install ubuntu", and it takes me to a boot screen kind of like the XP boot screen. After that's done, my monitor goes black. After twenty minutes of waiting for more to come, I decided it wasn't working right, and tried booting again. The same thing happened. Any ideas?
[06:33] <Yggdrasil> fsckit its something with the um. locale i think
[06:34] <Luakagon> I run vista and I shrunk my partition in hopes that I could install ubuntu too :s
[06:34] <Luakagon> I hate windows
[06:34] <Luakagon> but the boot-from-disk option only had a cli
[06:34] <Yggdrasil> eythan is therea safe mode of some sort in grub
[06:34] <Yggdrasil> recovery mode ?
[06:34] <Toma-> jscinoz: basically, youre going to need to edit the postinst script from within the actual package if you need it.
[06:35] <jscinoz> alright i'll try some things
[06:35] <Yggdrasil> fsckit ?
[06:35] <Eythan> Yggdrasil Nope, no recovery mode, there is a safe graphics mode
[06:35] <Toma-> jscinoz: there are alot of "Use with caution" messages on this page :)
[06:35] <Eythan> Yggdrasil Tried using that, same thing happened
[06:35] <jscinoz> =P
[06:35] <Yggdrasil> your still booting off the cd
[06:35] <rob2000> how come all installs are not in .debs why do we have to extract and compile everything its driving me nuts.
[06:35] <jscinoz> it hasnt broken anything it jsut doesnt install =P
[06:35] <disinterested> mocrosoft= microshaft
[06:36] <disinterested> microsoft
[06:36] <variant> rob2000: huh?
[06:36] <Yggdrasil> eythan do you have dual monitors  or an onboard vid card and a pci or agp vid card
[06:36] <fsckit> Yggdrasil, well, the command line worked, i just gotta rename it. still, for convenience, i'd like to resove it
[06:36] <linuxbomb> rob2000, wtf are you talking about
[06:36] <linuxbomb> gentoo?
[06:36] <variant> rob2000: fredom of choice
[06:36] <rob2000> i cant freaking install akamaru
[06:36] <Eythan> Yggdrasil My monitor is plugged into an AGP video card
[06:36] <cjae> variant, thanks does it explain it on the site or is it fairly self explanatory
[06:36] <rob2000> i've googled installing .tar.gz a hundred times
[06:36] <Yggdrasil> eythan, do you have 2 vid cards ?
[06:36] <jscinoz> alright next question..
[06:36] <rob2000> nothing makes a damn lick of sense.
[06:36] <variant> cjae: it's fairly self explanitory
[06:36] <jscinoz> Graphical GRUB? i've seen it done but have no idea how
[06:37] <Yggdrasil> fsckit, try mg song*.mp3 song.mp3
[06:37] <Yggdrasil> uh mv
[06:37] <Eythan> Yggdrasil Technically, I have three. The integrated graphics chipset my computer came with, my nVidia, and a Radeon plugged into PCI that I'm not using
[06:37] <cjae> variant, thanks
[06:37] <linuxbomb> rob2000, oh yeah are you a programmer?
[06:37] <variant> rob2000: if you actually have use of such a program then compiling some source code should be farily easy
[06:37] <Eythan> Yggdrasil Think I should switch the monitor to the integrated graphics chipset?
[06:37] <Yggdrasil> its worht a try
[06:37] <rob2000> i took an intro VB class but thats it.
[06:37] <Eythan> Yggdrasil I'll try that then
[06:37] <Yggdrasil> it should jsut take a sec? ,
[06:37] <rob2000> a simple website would be great.
[06:38] <rob2000> for newbs
[06:38] <Yggdrasil> let me know hwo it works out
[06:38] <jscinoz> Does anyone know how to edit the hardcoded places menu items?
[06:38] <variant> rob2000: there are a ton, start with google
[06:38] <fsckit> Yggdrasil, no problem renaming it once it's moved. it's a little more hassle with the konsole but works. thanks
[06:38] <rob2000> no wonder ubuntu has trouble grabbing people from windows.
[06:38] <rob2000> i have buddy.
[06:38] <jscinoz> i created a folder in my home dir called "Documents and it has since appeared in places and is not removable through bookmarks, any idea how i can remove it?
[06:38] <disinterested> rob2000: try this http://monkeyblog.org/ubuntu/installing/
[06:38] <rob2000> awesome potential but lacking here.
[06:38] <brentc4m> rob2000, what packages are you missing?
[06:38] <t3h> has anyone had trouble with a strange problem? ubuntu starts up and the middle "starting" panel comes up... but goes away after a while, and the system runs really slow
[06:38] <variant> rob2000: keep the chat to support issues.. you can talk all you want in #ubuntu-offtopic
[06:39] <t3h> happens randomly on boot
[06:39] <rob2000> i've been there.
[06:39] <rob2000> ok sorry.
[06:39] <Yggdrasil> fsckit, console is the best
[06:39] <Yggdrasil> fsckit, its something with the local.
[06:39] <rob2000> having trouble installing akamaru
[06:39] <Yggdrasil> im not sure wich package controls that,
[06:39] <imc_> morning,I have a fresh feisty install and OOO is borked - Impress can't go into slide show mode. Uninstalling openoffice.org doesn't seem to fix - can anyone offer suggestion of how to remove/reinstall/repair ooo?
[06:39] <rob2000> i followed all the directions there, still cant get it up.
[06:39] <jscinoz> Is Network-manager open for 3rd party plugins to be made?
[06:39] <Yggdrasil> look under the settings menu
[06:39] <rob2000> i'll bounce over there thanks guys.
[06:39] <rob2000> :)
[06:40] <jscinoz> I'm hoping i can figure out how to code a UMTS plugin for network-manager, (similar to GPRS Easy Connect but built into network-manager)
[06:41] <Frogzoo> imc_: it's a bit drastic, but removing .openoffice.org2/ might work
[06:41] <jscinoz> Toma, I fixed the kernel issue
[06:41] <jscinoz> *dances*
[06:42] <[Neurotic] > I used my office windows machine as an http proxy to connect my laptop to.  I use a usb network cable to connect my ubuntu laptop to my work station, and they a 'wired conncetion' notification pops up - but the two machines can't ping each other.  Is USB networking even possible?
[06:43] <Alonea> anyone have any ideas for when your automount thing is messed up?
[06:43] <nathan_>  Is it possible to have /usr and /home mounted on same partition?
[06:43] <Yggdrasil> nathan i think so
[06:43] <[Neurotic] > Or at least is USB networking between a windows and ubuntu system possible?
[06:43] <jscinoz> well time to reboot and see if my shiny new kernel works
[06:44] <Yggdrasil> alonea can u b more specific ?
[06:44] <nathan_> I'd probably just cp the current /usr to /usrnew.  Unmount usr and rename usrname to usr and mount that.
[06:45] <Yggdrasil> nathan, i would jsut copy it over to where it shoudl be under /usr
[06:45] <Yggdrasil> then change fstab ?
[06:45] <Frogzoo> [Neurotic] : I don't think there's a standard for IP over USB, I know linux can do it, not sure about doze
[06:45] <brentc4m> [Neurotic] , you probably have to do manual ip configuration for whatever interface it is
[06:46] <[Neurotic] > I can work out what driver is used on the doze side, without any issues
[06:46] <Alonea> Yggdrasil: nothing will automount anymore. My cdrom would not unmount earlier and I have to stick a pin in the hole to get it to eject the disk. Now my cdrom isn't mounted anymore and wont mount again. There is also now a locked folder called My Book which is referring to my external hdd that is not even hooked up anymore
[06:46] <krbrowning> Can File Roller support 7zip archives?
[06:46] <Yggdrasil> alonea have you tried to reboot ?
[06:46] <Bonkers-> every time I try "modprobe nvidia" I get "FATAL: could not run install command nvidia", if I just insmod the module, it works fine, it seems that the command "/sbin/lrm-video nvidia" is returning non-zero causing modprobe to fail, anyone know how to fix this?
[06:46] <[Neurotic] > Frogzoo, brent, ubuntu is granted a IP address, it shows up when I ifconfig
[06:47] <Alonea> Yggdrasil: yes. its been like this for 2 days, though today was the first time I tried to eject my cd drive. none of my thumb drives will automount anymore
[06:47] <Yggdrasil> alonea, from cmd line type mount
[06:47] <nathan_> Yggdrasil how would I do that?  It's not like I just copy it like from C: to D: the windows way.  :P ..... or can I?
[06:47] <brentc4m> [Neurotic] , do both machines have the same network in their ip?
[06:47] <Alonea> Yggdrasil: ok
[06:47] <Yggdrasil> bonkers- is this a custom made kernel or something ?
[06:48] <Bonkers-> Yggdrasil: nope linux-image-2.6.20-15-386, but I did use m-a build/install nvidia-new
[06:48] <[Neurotic] > brentc4m: both have the same subnet mask, but I'm not familiar with 'network' on windows
[06:48] <oscar> Hello.. Somebody cabn help me?? I have Ubuntu and I upgrade to a new  version and now in the GRUB appear some message telling me "Error 18: the selected cylinder exceed the maximum space available".. something like that.. What can i do?
[06:48] <Bonkers-> Yggdrasil: everything other than modprobe works fine
[06:48] <Yggdrasil> nathan, hmmm
[06:48] <nathan_> Feisty has quite a few nVidia issues it seems.
[06:48] <Yggdrasil> bonkers- how did you install the nvidia driver ?
[06:48] <Yggdrasil> nathan what does your fstab look like right now ?
[06:49] <Bonkers-> Yggdrasil: as I just said, m-a build/install nvidia-new
[06:49] <oscar> Sorry my mistake.. I am back.. Somebody can help me about the GRUB???
[06:49] <brentc4m> [Neurotic] , one should have an ip of a.b.c.d and the other should be a.b.c.e, as in they both have the same first 3 numbers, at least if the netmask is <IP_ADDRESS>
[06:49] <Alonea> Yggdrasil: do you think it might be caused by the iso I mounted yesterday? (though it didn't work like I hoped it would. trying to vmware an os)
[06:49] <Yggdrasil> bonkers- try to just redo that installatin proces ?
[06:49] <nathan_> I can't rememebr how I corrected the resolution, I should have written it down.  but I can tell you manually editing the xorg resolutions in feisty doesn't seem to fix that issue.
[06:49] <[Neurotic] > brentc4m: netmask: 255.255
[06:49] <Yggdrasil> alonea, just wondering whats under your mount
[06:49] <[Neurotic] > brentc4m: netmask: <IP_ADDRESS>*
[06:50] <Bonkers-> Yggdrasil: doesn't seem to help, any idea what lrm-video is though? it doesn't seem to do anything other than fail
[06:50] <Alonea> Yggdrasil: http://www.pastebin.ca/480229
[06:50] <brentc4m> [Neurotic] , well then technically they probably only need to share the first 2 numbers, but make sure they have the same first 3 just to be sure
[06:50] <nathan_> xconfig added the correct resolutions, but again wouldn't show up.
[06:50] <[Neurotic] > brentc4m: they only share the first two numbers
[06:50] <Yggdrasil> bonkers- not lrm-video doesnt ring any bell
[06:51] <oscar> what's meaning this ""Error 18: the selected cylinder exceed the maximum space available""??
[06:51] <brentc4m> [Neurotic] , well try making them share the first 3. make sure you're configuring the right interfaces on both too. beyond that I wouldn't know, I'm only suggesting things for a generic nic to nic connection, never done usb specifically
[06:51] <Yggdrasil> alonea, looks like vmware has got that iso locked perhaps
[06:52] <[Neurotic] > brentc4m: I don't think I have any control over the hardware
[06:52] <Alonea> Yggdrasil: how would I unlock it?
[06:52] <Yggdrasil> lsof | grep /home/alonea/mac
[06:52] <Yggdrasil> i think
[06:52] <[Neurotic] > brentc4m: assuming that the connection actually works... I should be able to ping one another, on their designated IP addresses, shouldn't I?
[06:53] <Alonea> Yggdrasil: well, it appeared to do something
[06:53] <Yggdrasil> alonea, sudo /etc/init.d/vmware stop
[06:53] <Yggdrasil> then umount
[06:53] <Alonea> Yggdrasil: ok, its off noq
[06:53] <Yggdrasil> ah ?
[06:53] <brentc4m> [Neurotic] , as long as you're pinging the correct interface's ip address, yes
[06:53] <Alonea> now I mean
[06:53] <Yggdrasil> it unmounted ?
[06:53] <Yggdrasil> or vmware
[06:54] <Alonea> Yggdrasil: vmware isn't even on at the moment I don't think. and yes it unmounted. vmware isn't even using that iso anymore because it didn't work
[06:54] <brentc4m> [Neurotic] , if when you ping the error is 'no route to host' that's usually a bad sign
[06:54] <Yggdrasil> alonea, well there u go then
[06:54] <[Neurotic] > brentc4m: yup, figured that ;) (thanks for the help btw)
[06:54] <Alonea> Yggdrasil: just checked mount, its not listed anymore. Do I need to restart for everything to be working again?
[06:54] <Yggdrasil> lsof shouldnt have done nothing
[06:54] <Yggdrasil> uhm
[06:55] <Yggdrasil> stick a cd in i guesse
[06:55] <brentc4m> [Neurotic] , no prob
[06:55] <Alonea> ok. stuck one in, nothing happening Yggdrasil lemme restart server. brb
[06:55] <truesnake> hi, does anybody know how to fix the audio on ubuntu fiesty for a toshiba satellite r20??
[06:55] <nathan_> What's everyone's preference here.  VMware or Virtualbox?
[06:55] <Yggdrasil> vmware , i dint know there was anything else
[06:56] <Yggdrasil> virtualbox free ?
[06:56] <strabes> nathan_: i've had better luck with virtual box
[06:56] <strabes> but i've never had a use for either
[06:56] <[Neurotic] > can you run XP on VirtualBox?
[06:56] <nathan_> Virtualbox is open source
[06:56] <Yggdrasil> ahh that sounds nice
[06:56] <Yggdrasil> ok im going to sleep
[06:56] <nathan_> virtualbox runs whatever VMware does, just never tried it yet
[06:56] <Eythan> Yggdrasil Looks like it's working, except my monitor is awful, and it did this thing where it burnt out
[06:56] <Eythan> Yggdrasil I have great timing :P
[06:56] <Yggdrasil> eythan ,
[06:57] <Yggdrasil> just get it installed
[06:57] <Eythan> Yggdrasil Thanks for your help
[06:57] <Yggdrasil> np
[06:57] <Yggdrasil> same thing happend to me and took me a while to realize it
[06:57] <nathan_> GEt my send file request Yggdrasil?
[06:57] <Yggdrasil> its a pain to setup x when it does that
[06:57] <Yggdrasil> nathan_ neg,
[06:57] <Yggdrasil> try again
[06:57] <nathan_> k
[06:57] <Yggdrasil> nathan you have to be reged to pm
[06:58] <Alonea> Yggdrasil: nothing...
[06:58] <Alonea> Yggdrasil: though I am getting an error from artsmessage now when I startup
[06:58] <nathan_> Ahh.
[06:58] <Yggdrasil> alonea
[06:58] <abg> once i've installed japanese in kde, how do i actually get to type with it?
[06:58] <Yggdrasil> you have 3 things mapped to the same place
[06:58] <james_> ugh im having a heck of a time changing permisions on my nfs server so any1 can write not just root <currently>
[06:58] <nathan_> okay how do I reg.  first time using Xchat. :)
[06:58] <Alonea> Yggdrasil: I got rid of those too.
[06:59] <Zoffix> I've just messed up my CD-ROM Drive :/ It was working fine but then I right-clicked on the CD-ROM icon and changed "Mount Point:" to "/mnt" not it doesn't mount at all and gives me an error. Does anybody know how I can fix that?
[06:59] <Alonea> Yggdrasil: those were left over from yesterday.
[06:59] <Yggdrasil> alonea , open a terminal up, and type sudo tail -f /var/log/syslog
[06:59] <Yggdrasil> then try and stick a device in
[06:59] <jack|ass> Is there a way to re-run the grub scan thing that Ubuntu does when it installs, that i dont' have to guess at what it thinks my windows partition is on?
[06:59] <truesnake> could somebody please help me obtain audio on my laptop???  this is the fourth day ive been trying to get it working
[06:59] <Yggdrasil> youve got something mounted up there
[06:59] <Yggdrasil> check your fstab as well
[06:59] <Yggdrasil> jack|ass grub-install
[06:59] <Yggdrasil> sudo even
[07:00] <Yggdrasil> alonea, can you rm -rf /home/alonea/mac ?
[07:00] <Alonea> Yggdrasil: ok, last thing when I put in a thumb drive it says May 10 00:00:02 alonea-laptop kernel: [110326.472000]  sd 9:0:0:0: Attached scsi generic sg0 type 0
[07:00] <cbs> can anyone refer me to a tutorial for gnome desktop sharing?
[07:00] <Rodls> Wubi!
[07:00] <asc> !samba
[07:00] <ubotu> samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[07:01] <jack|ass> Yggdrasil: thanks... but it only finds the four drives, not the fifth.. Does it stop if say (hd0-3) have things but hd4 doesnt?
[07:01] <Alonea> Yggdrasil: ok, I removed that folder
[07:01] <nathan_> okay, how do I reg....
[07:01] <Yggdrasil> alonea, try rebooting now
[07:01] <Rodls> !wubi
[07:01] <ubotu> wubi is an unofficial Ubuntu installer for Windows users - more info is at http://www.cutlersoftware.com/ubuntusetup/wubi/en-US/index.html
[07:01] <Yggdrasil> nathan what do you want to show me just put it in here
[07:01] <nathan_> You sure?   :P
[07:02] <Yggdrasil> jack|ass
[07:02] <Yggdrasil> sudo grub
[07:02] <abg> once i've installed japanese in kde, how do i actually get to type with it?
[07:02] <nathan_> # /etc/fstab: static file system information.
[07:02] <nathan_> #
[07:02] <nathan_> #  -- This file has been automaticly generated by ntfs-config --
[07:02] <nathan_> #
[07:02] <nathan_> # <file system> <mount point>   <type>  <options>       <dump>  <pass>
[07:02] <Yggdrasil> it will take u into a special place
[07:02] <nathan_> proc /proc proc defaults 0 0
[07:02] <nathan_> # Entry for /dev/hda3 :
[07:02] <nathan_> UUID=9a8dba42-4706-4c71-992e-f62d44a86967 / ext3 defaults,errors=remount-ro 0 1
[07:02] <Yggdrasil> ack dont
[07:02] <nathan_> # Entry for /dev/hda5 :
[07:02] <nathan_> UUID=3c53fc80-e730-4eca-87a7-92ac6ee712e5 /home ext3 defaults 0 2
[07:02] <nathan_> # Entry for /dev/hda2 :
[07:02] <nathan_> UUID=A0485FB0485F8446 /media/AppData ntfs-3g defaults,locale=en_US.UTF-8 0 1
[07:02] <nathan_> # Entry for /dev/hdb1 :
[07:02] <nathan_> UUID=D658A77958A756D1 /media/MediaFiles ntfs-3g defaults,locale=en_US.UTF-8 0 1
[07:02] <nathan_> # Entry for /dev/hda1 :
[07:02] <Yggdrasil> sorry dood
[07:02] <nathan_> UUID=DCC41394C4136FCE /media/WinXP ntfs-3g defaults,locale=en_US.UTF-8 0 1
[07:02] <nathan_> # Entry for /dev/hda6 :
[07:02] <Yggdrasil> joint #nathan_
[07:02] <nathan_> UUID=d7aa5445-0c92-4d73-b701-230641a5ccf8 none swap sw 0 0
[07:02] <nathan_> /dev/hdc /media/cdrom0 udf,iso9660 user,noauto 0 0
[07:02] <nathan_> /dev/hdd /media/cdrom1 udf,iso9660 user,noauto 0 0
[07:02] <Alonea> Yggdrasil: brb
[07:03] <cbs> can anyone help me with getting gnome RDP to work?
[07:03] <somar> heyy can anyone tell me how to install hellanzb?
[07:03] <Yggdrasil> nathan_
[07:03] <z3ro_> quick question regarding ubuntu... I seem to be getting messages from gcc like "In function :" (always that character, and not the real function name)
[07:03] <z3ro_> which isn't so helpful...
[07:03] <somar> is it just a sudo aptitude install hellanzb?
[07:03] <FakeOutdoorsman> Zoffix: what error are you getting when you try to access your cd-rom?
[07:04] <nathan_> So yeah, looking to put /usr on same partition as /home
[07:04] <Yggdrasil> nathan_ hahah join #nathan_
[07:04] <somar> nevermind should have checked the forums first!
[07:05] <Yggdrasil> nathan_
[07:05] <somar> I have a quickie though. Anyone know why my mousepad tapping keeps getting enabled every reset? I want to keep it disabled, and being a laptop I reboot it quite often. :(
[07:05] <Yggdrasil> join #nathan_
[07:06] <james_> great i seem to have locked enev root outa the nfs share
[07:06] <cables> somar, how are you enabling it?
[07:06] <Yggdrasil> somar, its under /etc/X11/xorg.conf synaptics
[07:06] <somar> terminal>qsynaptics>check the box and hit apply
[07:06] <Zoffix> FakeOutdoorsman: hey, well, I think it was you who I was talking to about my packages not visible from CD-ROM. When I ran the command you told me it was giving me "E: Could not mount CD-ROM" and it looked like it wasn't even trying. So I right clicked on the CD-ROM icon and changed "Mount Point" to "/mnt". Now when I insert CD-ROM it gives me "Unable to mount the volume "Ubuntu 7.04 i386" mount_point cannot contain the following characters: newline, G_
[07:06] <Yggdrasil> man synaptics
[07:06] <cbs> Need help with Gnome RDP
[07:07] <Zoffix> whops
[07:07] <somar> I had a weird issue with xorg.conf. It wasn't being read, I'll check it when I boot ubuntu
[07:07] <kevin__> hello where is the grub config file located?
[07:08] <cbs> kevin: /boot
[07:08] <Yggdrasil> keving, /boot/grub
[07:08] <kevin__> thanks
[07:08] <Zoffix> FakeOutdoorsman: did you get the full message? Ended with "broke it even more" I managed to `ssh` to my second box and using irssi and I know it likes to cut stuff out. BTW, is it possible to install the packages I need via this SSH connection?
[07:08] <cbs> wow i actually answered a question....partly
[07:08] <Yggdrasil> haha
[07:08] <somar> I have another quick one (maybe): my windows partition is in /media/sda2, how do i get access to read/write?
[07:08] <Yggdrasil> good job dood
[07:08] <cbs> i am now t3h ereet hax0r
[07:08] <Rupert-Giles> fo shoa niggah
[07:08] <cbs> haha
[07:08] <nathan_> somar: ntfs-3g
[07:08] <Jordan_U> !ntfs-3g | somar
[07:08] <ubotu> somar: ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[07:08] <nathan_> easiest and safest way
[07:09] <kevin__> which file do i edit?
[07:09] <Yggdrasil> nathan_
[07:09] <Yggdrasil> join #nathan_
[07:09] <somar> Oh... i thought that ability was built in
[07:09] <somar> doh
[07:09] <Yggdrasil> somar no
[07:09] <gonnaeatthat> whats a good way to play wmv files? since i reinstalled i cant find the package
[07:09] <Yggdrasil> read is i think
[07:09] <nathan_> I all ready did... oh nathan with the _ :)
[07:09] <kevin__> Yggdrasil, you know which one  I edit?
[07:09] <Jordan_U> somar, No, but it is really easy to enable
[07:09] <Yggdrasil> you talkint about the menu list ?
[07:09] <kevin__> yes
[07:09] <Zoffix> !wmv > gonnaeatthat
[07:09] <somar> And once I do that, Do I have to do anything with mounting? (not exactly sure what that is)
[07:10] <asc> gonnaeatthat: I always use mplayer
[07:10] <Yggdrasil> /boot/grub/menu.list
[07:10] <Yggdrasil> be carefull!!!
[07:10] <kevin__> cool ok
[07:10] <gonnaeatthat> ok
[07:10] <FakeOutdoorsman> Zoffix: which machine are you ssd into?  obvoiusly not the one w/o any wireless yet, right?
[07:10] <Jordan_U> somar, No, simply go to Applications -> System Tools -> NTFS config
[07:10] <cbs> kev: backup the file in an easy to locate plac eincase yuo have to boot to a prompt
[07:10] <somar> Ok thank you very much all =)
[07:11] <nathan_> once you got ntfs-3g installed do:  gksu ntfs-config
[07:11] <Jordan_U> kevin__, What are you trying to do exactly?
[07:11] <somar> What is gk?
[07:11] <Zoffix> FakeOutdoorsman: I have two boxes, both use wireless to connect to Internet and they are interconnected with wire Ethernet too.
[07:11] <nathan_> gnome/kde
[07:11] <nathan_> at least that's how I think of it
[07:11] <somar> ohh opens graphical program
[07:11] <Jordan_U> somar, Asks for your password with a GUI dialog
[07:11] <somar> gotcha
[07:11] <Zoffix> FakeOutdoorsman: now on my main box I installed Ubuntu Fiesty from scratch and can't get the wireless card working (need to compile ndiswrapper)
[07:11] <nathan_> like sudo for graphical apps
[07:11] <somar> tyty
[07:11] <kevin__> Jordan_U,  change the name of WindowsVista/Longhorn (loader) to just windows vista
[07:12] <FakeOutdoorsman> if you are ssh'ed into the machine that needs the linux-headers you can get the files you need
[07:12] <FakeOutdoorsman> Zoffix: if you are ssh'ed into the machine that needs the linux-headers you can get the files you need
[07:12] <Zoffix> man, this is a design flaw. I can change the mount point for CD-ROM but I cannot revert it back where it was so easily :/
[07:12] <Zoffix> FakeOutdoorsman: no, I ssh'd FROM the machine that needs headers
[07:13] <Zoffix> FakeOutdoorsman: I run irssi via ssh
[07:13] <kevin__> Jordan_U, I will be ok right?
[07:14] <carbine> Could someone here help me out with WPA?
[07:14] <FakeOutdoorsman> Zoffix: oh.  i was confused.  i guess i'm tired and not much help for you.
[07:14] <Jordan_U> kevin__, Yes
[07:14] <kevin__> thanks
[07:14] <Zoffix> FakeOutdoorsman: well, any idea how I can fix the mount point for my CD-ROM that I've just messed up :/
[07:15] <Jordan_U> Zoffix, Did you just change your /etc/fstab ?
[07:16] <Zoffix> Jordan_U: I right-clicked on CD-ROM icon on desktop and there was a property "Mount point:" it was empty and I've put "/mnt/cdrom" in there.
[07:16] <carbine> I have ndiswrapper installed and working, wpa_supplicant installed.. I just can't connect to a WPA network..
[07:16] <james_> WPA is tough to get working
[07:17] <carbine> So I've learned. =P
[07:17] <Jordan_U> Zoffix, The default is /media/cdrom0
[07:17] <carbine> It acts as if it's going to work
[07:17] <Zoffix> Jordan_U: never mind, I fixed it :) went to `computer:///` and cleared my change
[07:17] <carbine> NM detects that it's WPA, allows me to enter a personal WPA key, tries for a bit, then connects to my neighbor's unsecure network
[07:18] <Jordan_U> carbine, What kind of card do you have (chipset) ?
[07:18] <carbine> Sadly, bcm4306
[07:18] <carbine> I have that working using ndiswrapper
[07:19] <Zoffix> Now it leaves me with the second problem. I cannot get any packages from the CD-ROM. When I try `sudo apt-cdrom add` it gives me "E: Could not mount" without even trying. When I go to `computer:///" I see _TWO_ CD-ROM devices, one with the mounted Ubuntu CD and other one just says "CD-ROM 1" when I right-click -> mount on it it shows me "Could not mount" I have only one CD-ROM drive on my box and I think `apt-cdrom` is trying the wrong one.
[07:19] <Zoffix> How should I remove the second CD-ROM?
[07:20] <Zoffix> When I try to mount that weird `CD-ROM 1` it gives me "mount: special device /dev/hdc does not exis"
[07:20] <Jordan_U> carbine, Don't use NDIS wrapper, it's a hack, remove it, un blacklist the bcm43xx module and install the package "bcm43xx-fwcutter" if you are using Feisty
[07:20] <carbine> Alrighty
[07:20] <ra21vi> Zoffix: you can tell apt-cdrom to go for a particular cdrom device using -d
[07:20] <raabman> Does anyone have any expereince getting the generic wireless card in the HP s7700n working?
[07:20] <ra21vi> Zoffix: man apt-cdrom
[07:21] <Petegu1> Is there a way to change the place that my package manager gets it's packages from?
[07:21] <Jordan_U> carbine, all broadcom cards have native drivers, its just the firmware ( the code that runs on the card itself, not on the OS ) that you need
[07:21] <carbine> How do I go about unblacklisting something? =P
[07:21] <ooazzaoo> i need help with a regexp that will print all characters before ":::" in a file.  Can anyone help?
[07:22] <raabman> locate blacklist
[07:22] <SuperQ> ooazzaoo: sure
[07:22] <SuperQ> ooazzaoo: you mean on a line?
[07:22] <ooazzaoo> yes, on each line
[07:22] <SuperQ> so you have some line like ::: this
[07:22] <FakeOutdoorsman> Petegu1: yes.  you woul dneed to edit your sources.list with the new repository
[07:22] <Zoffix> ra21vi: I did, but how do I figure out what is the mount point for the right drive?
[07:23] <ooazzaoo> more like  someuser:::other stuff
[07:23] <SuperQ> sure
[07:23] <ooazzaoo> i'm trying to strip usernames from a dump
[07:23] <FakeOutdoorsman> Petegu1: make sure you make a backup fof sources.list irst.
[07:23] <SuperQ> sure
[07:23] <SuperQ> ooazzaoo: dump of what file format?
[07:23] <Petegu1> it's the /etc/apt/sources.list file right?
[07:23] <ra21vi> Zoffix: what do you mean?
[07:23] <FakeOutdoorsman> Petegu1: yes
[07:23] <Jordan_U> carbine, undo whatever instructions you followed to install NDIS wrapper, you probably added bcm43xx to /etc/modprobe.d/my_blacklist if so then just remove it
[07:23] <carbine> I take it I delete the entry for bcm43xx in my blacklist file?
[07:24] <SuperQ> ooazzaoo: option 1: awk
[07:24] <SuperQ> awk -F ':::' '{print $1}'
[07:24] <Jordan_U> carbine, Yup
[07:24] <ooazzaoo> i see
[07:24] <ooazzaoo> usb went to sleep.. gotta remount ... one second please
[07:24] <Petegu1> Thanks
[07:24] <raabman> Does anyone have any experience getting the rt73 drivers to work?
[07:24] <nol13> is ubuntu the "n00b" distrubution?
[07:24] <Zoffix> ra21vi: well, what do I pass along with -d option? the files from CD-ROM are in /media/Ubuntu 7.04 i386 when I pass that with -d option it gives me E: Unable to stat the mount point /media/Ubuntu 7.04 i386/ - stat (2 No such file or directory)
[07:24] <FakeOutdoorsman> Petegu1: then once you edit sources.list, you need to update it with "sudo aptitude update"
[07:25] <SuperQ> ooazzaoo: option 2: sed
[07:25] <ra21vi> Zoffix: ok
[07:25] <SuperQ> sed -e 's/\(.*\):::.*/\1/'
[07:25] <Zoffix> ra21vi: and still, _why_ do I have two CD-ROM drives in `computer:///` when I have only one :/ it's a fresh install.
[07:25] <Jordan_U> nol13, Not the only one, and it is also great for more experienced users, but yes, it is easy to use for those new to Linux
[07:25] <SuperQ> ooazzaoo: sed -e 's/^\(.*\):::.*$/\1/'
[07:25] <SuperQ> ooazzaoo: that's the one you want for sed
[07:26] <ooazzaoo> is awk better to use in this situation?
[07:26] <SuperQ> ooazzaoo: I like the awk solution better, easier to read :)
[07:26] <SuperQ> either one is fine
[07:26] <ooazzaoo> SuperQ, me too
[07:26] <nol13> how do i program C++
[07:26] <nol13> ?
[07:26] <FakeOutdoorsman> Zoffix: try /media/cdrom0 with your -d option
[07:26] <SuperQ> nol13: goto school :)
[07:26] <ra21vi> Zoffix: just a min
[07:26] <Petegu1> Thanks again
[07:26] <phy3> nol13, sit down with a book
[07:26] <raabman> nol13: go back in time 15 years and go to school.
[07:27] <SuperQ> haha
[07:27] <ra21vi> Zoffix: are you on Feisty?
[07:27] <Zoffix> FakeOutdoorsman: instantly gives me "E: Failed to mount the cdrom" and I think it is trying the other (broken) one.
[07:27] <Zoffix> ra21vi: yes, I've just installed it
[07:27] <ra21vi> Zoffix: ok do this, cat /etc/mtab
[07:28] <infidel> how bad does mint suck?
[07:28] <ra21vi> Zoffix: there you get the right mounted device
[07:28] <phy3> nol13 --- here is your (and everyone's) first project in C++  ...   http://www.engin.umd.umich.edu/CIS/course.des/cis400/cpp/hworld.html
[07:28] <godlygeek> Does anyone here use an alternate wm to metacity inside gnome?
[07:28] <raabman> Anyone know how to wake up a USB wireless card so I don't have to boot into windows to make it work in Ubuntu?
[07:28] <brentc4m> godlygeek, yes, openbox
[07:28] <SuperQ> ooazzaoo: the sed one would help you more with learning regexp :)
[07:28] <FakeOutdoorsman> godlygeek: i also use openbox
[07:28] <[o_0] > llegue
[07:28] <dhtechs> raabman:  ndis wrapper?
[07:28] <infidel> raabman, what?
[07:29] <SuperQ> ooazzaoo: I could give you a bit of a verbose explanation of how the sed line works
[07:29] <[o_0] > hola
[07:29] <godlygeek> brentc4m, FakeOutdoorsman : do either of you use feisty?  :)
[07:29] <FakeOutdoorsman> godlygeek: yes
[07:29] <brentc4m> godlygeek, you betcha
[07:29] <[o_0] > see
[07:29] <raabman> I have a hp desktop that, from what I have read, needs to be booted into windows to "wake up" the use wireless card
[07:29] <FakeOutdoorsman> godlygeek: i use openbox with no GDM
[07:29] <godlygeek> brentc4m, FakeOutdoorsman again: how do you do it?  WINDOW_MANAGER in ~/.gnomerc?
[07:30] <ooazzaoo> SuperQ, thanks.. works great
[07:30] <[o_0] > oye ustedes ven lo que escribo?
[07:30] <brentc4m> godlygeek, openbox --replace as a gnome startup item
[07:30] <raabman> use=usb
[07:30] <infidel> raabman, ifconfig eth1 up
[07:30] <dhtechs> raabman:  what chipset is he card
[07:30] <dhtechs> *the card?
[07:30] <brentc4m> godlygeek, there is probably a better way, but this works and i'm lazy
[07:30] <raabman> Gemtek
[07:30] <SuperQ> ooazzaoo: :)
[07:30] <dhtechs> Hmmmm
[07:30] <Phi1> hey everybody
[07:30] <raabman> I am having a hard time getting anymore info then that
[07:30] <godlygeek> brentc4m: crap, fluxbox doesn't have a --replace and that's what i really want to work.
[07:31] <nol13> phy3, is there any other ones? i cant goto like umuch.edu, im a buckeye fan/
[07:31] <dhtechs> not supported as far as I know
[07:31] <godlygeek> i'm seeing a ~70 second delay between fluxbox loading and gnome continuing to load the panel apps... *sadness*
[07:31] <federicocamilo> Hello, I remember hearing about a method to install ubuntu onto a computer from within XP. (i think it instaled grub and did something with an image. not sure what tho.) Does anyone know if such a method exists and if so where can i find it?
[07:31] <infidel> raabman, what card do you have?
[07:31] <ooazzaoo> SuperQ, now i've got duplicate usernames (dump binary also exports pass history) appended with username_history_x.  Sed to delete all lines matchin _history?
[07:31] <Phi1> I'm on ubuntu 7.04 on a samsung notebook and have a problem with hibernation (system tries to hibernate, but then immediately comes back up)...
[07:31] <infidel> raabman, iwconfig
[07:31] <Phi1> ...posted the log here: http://www.pmayer.net/public/hibernating
[07:31] <raabman> infidel: It is a generic Gemtek card in a hp s7700n
[07:32] <Phi1> ...I don't really understand the log, so could someone point me into the right direction? What could be the problem?
[07:32] <Zoffix> ra21vi: hm, it's what I've tried "/media/Ubuntu ....." when I pass that to -d option it gives me "Could not mount... : (2 Not a directory)" what is interesting is that after running `sudo apt-cdrom` with that option my Fiesty CD _does_ get UNmounted :/
[07:32] <carbine> Oh my God I love you guys
[07:32] <FakeOutdoorsman> godlygeek: sadness...  try it without gnome or GDM.  so fast.
[07:32] <carbine> Thanks sooo much
[07:32] <infidel> raabman, lspci -v
[07:32] <carbine> All this time and it was that easy.. Lol
[07:32] <Zoffix> ra21vi: oh.. it's actually a DVD with a CD ISO burned onto it. I've just installed from it so I guess it is fine, could that be the problem though?
[07:32] <godlygeek> FakeOutdoorsman: that's what i usually do, but i thought i'd give this whole 'gnome works out of the box' thing a shot.  i call bullsh?t.  :-p
[07:33] <SuperQ> ooazzaoo: | grep -v "_history"
[07:34] <FakeOutdoorsman> godlygeek: i wish i could help you more, but i've never tried it like that
[07:34] <raabman> infidel: It is an internal usb wireless care so it doesn't show up on lspci -v.  I can't cut and paste because that computer has no internet connection
[07:34] <federicocamilo> Hello, I don't know if i registered properly. can anyone hear me?
[07:34] <jdraper> no
[07:34] <Jordan_U> federicocamilo, no
[07:34] <ooazzaoo> SuperQ, thanks.. works great
[07:34] <federicocamilo> lol
[07:34] <ooazzaoo> need to read up on regex
[07:35] <godlygeek> FakeOutdoorsman: nah, it's alright... the only reason i really wanted to do it that way was to just have the network manager and power manager 'just work', but instead, i think i'll try to figure out how to make *box load them into the slit.  heh
[07:35] <infidel> raabman, never heard of an internal usb wireless card
[07:35] <federicocamilo> Is there a way to install ubuntu with only an internet connection and an existing installation of XP or 2000?
[07:35] <raabman> Neither had I.
[07:35] <federicocamilo> and no floppy or CD?
[07:35] <raabman> But it shows up on the lsusb
[07:35] <Jordan_U> federicocamilo, Yes
[07:35] <Phi1> hm... anyone into hibernation? :(
[07:36] <godlygeek> raabman: internal cards are usually minipci, not usb...
[07:36] <infidel> raabman, hold on let me check
[07:36] <Supaplex> federicocamilo: yes. http://www.goodbye-windows.com - but I think that's debian.  I know ubuntu has one, but I don't know where.  I maintain that site, and I'm welcome to input to support ubuntu to.
[07:36] <Jordan_U> federicocamilo, But it's not officially supported yet, do you have a usb pen drive?
[07:36] <FakeOutdoorsman> godlygeek: good idea with trying to use networkmanager.  wifi-radar doesn't alwys work on my ancient machine.  good luck putting the load into the *box slit.
[07:36] <SuperQ> ooazzaoo: yes :)
[07:36] <Supaplex> s/think//
[07:36] <federicocamilo> debian is fine. anything debianish with apt-get is good. thanx!
[07:37] <godlygeek> FakeOutdoorsman: it seems it'll be easier than getting gnome to load what i want.  heh... either of them SHOULD work in the slit, in theory, so it's worth a shot.
[07:38] <SpookNElbow> Hi all-y'all!
[07:38] <Peteguy> Hi.  I installed the 'restricted' nvidia driver and now my x-windows won't boot.  Is there a way to uninstall that driver from the terminal?
[07:39] <SpookNElbow> Just got Ubuntu running on my WinXP box last Friday at 0500.
[07:39] <disinterested> ok when i enable gl desktop i have no title bar what am i missing?
[07:39] <Jordan_U> Pete_69, Yes, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg -phigh ( choose "nv" for the driver )
[07:39] <mike71b> peteguy sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[07:39] <SpookNElbow> Yikes!  Populous place -- "1144 people in room".
[07:39] <nol13> Peteguy, is(was) your internet running ok?
[07:40] <Phi1> Is there a FAQ or special help site for hibernation-related problems?
[07:40] <Jordan_U> Pete_69, Sorry, my last comment was for Peteguy
[07:40] <Peteguy> Ok, I'll try that.  It's pretty cool that they have a text-based IRC client.  Thanks, I'll give it a shot
[07:41] <nol13> Phil. hibernation is for bears and astronauts
[07:41] <godlygeek> Phi1: what's the problem?
[07:42] <Phi1> the problem is that it tries to hibernate, but immediately comes back up
[07:42] <SpookNElbow> Jordan_U:  You mean this -- "Yes, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg -phigh" -- is in ref to a text-only client?
[07:42] <Phi1> the log is here: http://www.pmayer.net/public/hibernating
[07:42] <phy3> !hibernate
[07:42] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about hibernate - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:42] <Jordan_U> SpookNElbow, No, in reference to the question of disabling the nvidia driver
[07:42] <mike71b> I'm creating a virtual XP home machine right now, should I choose format ntfs or fat? Is one faster to use?
[07:43] <Nowak> is there a way to install parted package from edgy on feisty ?
[07:43] <dhaval> hi. can someone tell me when pidgin will get added to the ubuntu repos?
[07:43] <mike71b> gparter
[07:43] <mike71b> gparted
[07:43] <nol13> Novak, is your internet running ok?
[07:43] <jack|ass> arrrrgh.  i can get windows to start to boot, but then it decides it needs to fsck a raid array disk.
[07:43] <FakeOutdoorsman> dhaval: i'm not sure, but you can build it from source. i'm running it.
[07:44] <nol13> mike71b, neither
[07:44] <dhaval> FakeOutdoorsman: that i do not want to do. I won't be able to upgrade using apt then (or will I?)
[07:44] <bimberi> dhaval: when gutsy is released.  Unless a backport is done.
[07:44] <jl> i have a problem with youtube the videos is out of sync with the sound, how can i solve this?
[07:45] <Phi1> ubotu: 0 search results for "hibernate"... damn. ;) thx for the link though
[07:45] <phy3> Is that through MB ?
[07:45] <phy3> oops
[07:45] <jdraper> gutsy what
[07:45] <jdraper> gusty gypsy?
[07:45] <jdraper> gutsy german
[07:45] <brentc4m> so with a release like feisty, are updates only bugfixes/security updates? besides the backports repo
[07:45] <nol13> jl, is firefox running ok?
[07:45] <jl> nol13: yes firefox is ok, i'm using feisty this never happends in edgy
[07:46] <pschulz01> How do I turn off beeps in gnome? 'xset -b' works but I would like to know the 'correct' way to make this permanent.
[07:46] <nol13> jl, you better go cartch it then! bwhahaahahahahahhaahahahahahahhhahahhaahahahahhhahaahah
[07:46] <nol13> catch
[07:46] <lasking> guys who know purisa font ?
[07:46] <FakeOutdoorsman> dhaval: apt may want to "upgrade" your custom install by replacing it once it appears in the repository if you use checkinstall and give it the same name as it will appear in the repository...i think.
[07:47] <Peteguy> That command worked great, I'm back with a GUI.    Arial 12?  Times New Roman 13?
[07:48] <nol13> jumbers, kstars
[07:48] <jumbers> Jordan_U: Uh, it's gigantic
[07:48] <bimberi> hi pschulz01, system -> prefs -> sound, System Beep tab
[07:48] <eternaljoy> can I play quake4-demo on Ubuntu?
[07:48] <Jordan_U> jumbers, That's the point :)
[07:48] <jumbers> Jordan_U: I want to use it for a server banner
[07:48] <lasking> nol13:what mean? can you explain it?
[07:48] <jumbers> Jordan_U: For SSH
[07:49] <Nowak> is there a way to install parted package from edgy on feisty ?
[07:50] <nol13> lasking, no, sorry, im just a jackass
[07:50] <lasking> ...
[07:50] <rgould> what is the command to refresh the groups you belong to without logging out?
[07:50] <nathan_> eternaljoy, you can run anything you want on Ubuntu with a little know how. :)
[07:50] <Eythan> How long does it normally take to resize a partition from the boot CD?
[07:50] <eternaljoy> nathan_: :)
[07:50] <nol13> jl, i dunno, i have a few issues with youtube and flash9 beta on dapper, sometimes it keeps pausing
[07:51] <Zoffix> W00t. I am teh smartest :) I've just copied my ndiswrapper source to the other Ubuntu box (that I could ssh into) and copied it back to this box and ran it :) seems to be working fine, got online ^_^
[07:51] <strabes> Eythan: depends on how big it is and how much data you have on it
[07:51] <Zoffix> Thank you to everybody who was helping ;)
[07:51] <Eythan> *sigh*
[07:51] <Eythan> I've been waiting for ten minutes now and it's still at 0% :P
[07:51] <illriginal> Anyone know how to get a PSP (playstation portable) to be recognized by Ubuntu?
[07:51] <strabes> Eythan: then something is probably wrong. how big is it?
[07:51] <SuperQ> Eythan: it can take a long long time
[07:51] <Eythan> 150gb
[07:51] <FakeOutdoorsman> Zoffix: excellent.
[07:52] <strabes> Eythan: shouldn't be THAT slow
[07:52] <SuperQ> Eythan: where are you watching the %?
[07:52] <phy3> Let us know when it hits 1%
[07:52] <SuperQ> Eythan: sometimes I've seen the text-ui progress bar not work at all
[07:52] <nathan_> illriginal: It should recognize as a Mass storage dive.
[07:52] <SuperQ> Eythan: but if you hit Alt-F3 or Alt-F4 it migh be saying something
[07:52] <illriginal> yeah for some reason it's not :(
[07:52] <Eythan> superQ That might be it then
[07:52] <nol13> lasking, what is the problem with pursia font?
[07:52] <abg> once i've installed japanese in kde, how do i actually get to type with it?
[07:53] <SuperQ> Eythan: you can hit Alt-F1 to return to the main install screen
[07:53] <SuperQ> Eythan: (I assume you're using the alternate or server installer)
[07:53] <strabes> abg: run kcontrol and go to regional & accessibility
[07:53] <nathan_> Have PSP set for USB connection?
[07:53] <Eythan> SuperQ nope, the one from the live gui
[07:53] <pschulz01> bimberi: LEGEND!
[07:53] <SuperQ> Eythan: oh..
[07:53] <strabes> abg: then country/region & language
[07:53] <illriginal> do I have it set for usb connection?
[07:53] <illriginal> hold on, let me check my settings <,<
[07:53] <SuperQ> Eythan: I didn't know the live CD gui did resizes
[07:53] <bimberi> pschulz01: cool :)
[07:53] <strabes> Has anyone had any luck with the Sound Blaster Audigy 2 NX?
[07:54] <Eythan> superq It does with 7.04 I guess
[07:54] <lasking> my pursia font is lost
[07:54] <SuperQ> sweet
[07:54] <illriginal> LOL
[07:54] <pschulz01> do you remember what you helped me with previously?
[07:54] <abg> strabes: i've already done that and installed japanese, but now i don't know how to actually use it
[07:54] <illriginal> It opened Rhythmbox?!?!
[07:54] <nathan_> there you go
[07:54] <illriginal> ha that's funny
[07:54] <illriginal> why does it open rythmbox?
[07:54] <nathan_> You probably have music files on there and opened the default app for them
[07:54] <nol13> lasking, so where you from?
[07:54] <strabes> abg: keyboard layout maybe?
[07:55] <SuperQ> Eythan: if you open a terminal under applications::accesories
[07:55] <nathan_> same reason why I have WinAmp open when I connect my USB drive
[07:55] <abg> strables: alright, thanks. i'll fiddle around with it
[07:55] <lasking> north pole
[07:55] <SuperQ> Eythan: you can run "vmstat 1"
[07:55] <illriginal> bug?
[07:55] <pschulz01> bimbari: do you remember what you helped me with previously?
[07:55] <SuperQ> Eythan: and see if the ---io--- column says bi/bo
[07:55] <nol13> lasking, ssucks, i hear its melting
[07:55] <SuperQ> Eythan: (blocks in, blocks out)
[07:55] <illriginal> It's called, "sony psp player" lol
[07:55] <illriginal> Sony psp music player, sorry
[07:56] <foo> Anyone have a rough idea of how long an e2fsck -fyv may take on an 800GB partition? Hmm.
[07:56] <lasking> yes
[07:56] <nathan_> Hmm, maybe Ubuntu is able to recognize it as a PSP
[07:56] <SuperQ> foo: haha
[07:56] <Eythan> Superq Kay, brb
[07:56] <lasking> so i lost my pursia font where to get it back?
[07:56] <SuperQ> foo: oof
[07:56] <illriginal> nathan I've been lookin around to putting songs/images/videos onto my psp, i have a 512 stick of memory in the psp.
[07:56] <SuperQ> :(
[07:56] <Madpilot> foo, if it's a full 800GB partion, quite a while... go get a coffee or something
[07:57] <foo> Madpilot: eh, I'm not sitting around waiting for it. 5 hours? 10 hours? 25 hours?
[07:57] <illriginal> i don't however have a card reader for my PC....
[07:58] <Madpilot> foo, no idea. My 110GB /home, which has about 80GB of stuff in it, fscks in about 5min or less.
[07:58] <illriginal> woot
[07:58] <illriginal> nevermind, i got it!
[07:58] <pr0nGuy> How do I copy data onto a CD with Grip without finalizing?
[07:58] <daya> how do I allow active ftp for the clinets behind the natted firewall
[07:58] <illriginal> im gonna see if i can play mp3s on it
[07:58] <SuperQ> foo: seriously, depending on how much stuff, and what kind of disk it is (RAID?)
[07:58] <SuperQ> foo: hours
[07:59] <foo> Madpilot: ahh, RAID5 with 3 400GB drives. It's been going for about 6 hours already
[07:59] <SuperQ> foo: what stage is it on?
[07:59] <Defian> sheesh, thats a lot of space.
[07:59] <SuperQ> /dev/mapper/ns-data   900G  595G  306G  67% /data
[07:59] <Defian> Video editing or something?
[07:59] <SuperQ> 5x 300G
[07:59] <Madpilot> foo, nice setup, but I'm glad I don't have to wait for it to fsck
[08:00] <illriginal> WOOOOT Ubuntu is fully compatible with PSP!!!
[08:00] <SuperQ> foo: it's not re-building the RAID5 is it?
[08:00] <foo> SuperQ: Not sure. It's remote
[08:00] <illriginal> I got my mp3 playing on my PSP!
[08:00] <foo> SuperQ: hm, don't think so.
[08:00] <foo> Madpilot: hah
[08:00] <SuperQ> foo: cat /proc/mdstat
[08:00] <SuperQ> foo: oh.. you don't have a console on it?
[08:01] <arch01> hello
[08:01] <skinnypuppy> I'm installing my first XP virtual machine on VMware server, I'm to the Windows network setup portion of the virtual machine. Should I give it an IP on the local sub, or let it do DHCP ?
[08:01] <SuperQ> foo: 6 hours seems a bit long, but ext3 fsck is dependant on how much stuff is on the FS
[08:01] <Eythan> superq so what am I looking for in the bi / bo?
[08:01] <Eythan> superq Everything takes so long on the live gui
[08:01] <SuperQ> Eythan: are the numbers non-zero?
[08:01] <foo> SuperQ: I do, I'd just need to call my buddy
[08:01] <foo> SuperQ: 600GB out of 800GB was used
[08:01] <SuperQ> yea, that's going to take a long ass time
[08:02] <Eythan> superq At the moment yeah, but I cancelled the resize of the partition
[08:02] <Eythan> superq I'll get to that stage again :P
[08:02] <SuperQ> foo: I would verify that it's not trying to fsck and rebuild at the same time
[08:02] <titun> how can i upgrade my libc6 from 2.5 to 2.5-7, i have the .deb
[08:02] <SuperQ> Eythan: oh.. canceling resizes is.. dicey
[08:02] <foo> SuperQ: Hm, before we did that... the RAID array was fine. It's hardware RAID, fwyi
[08:02] <SuperQ> titun: dpkg -i new-libc.deb
[08:02] <foo> fyi*
[08:03] <SuperQ> ok
[08:03] <arch01> does anybody have a black screen problem after installing/enabling the latest nvidia drivers on a 1680x1050 laptop with geforce fx go5700.
[08:03] <SuperQ> foo: this is why I use XFS on big filesystems :)
[08:04] <titun> SuperQ: this gives : libc6 conflicts with tzdata (<< 2007e-2)
[08:04] <ubuntu> algum brasileiro?
[08:04] <SuperQ> titun: ahh
[08:04] <arch01> #nvidia
[08:04] <abg> i've been trying to type in japanese for awhile now - i have the language installed, it's added to my keyboard layouts, and there's a flag icon in my toolbar
[08:04] <abg> but when i switch, i can't get it to type in japanese. the only change is apostrophes then appear as colons
[08:04] <titun> SuperQ: so i need to remove tzdata
[08:04] <SuperQ> titun: why not use apt-get
[08:04] <SuperQ> NO!
[08:04] <arch01> does anybody have a black screen problem after installing/enabling the latest nvidia drivers on a 1680x1050 laptop with geforce fx go5700.
[08:04] <SuperQ> titun: you need to resolve dependancies
[08:04] <lasking> play mp3s on what?
[08:04] <abg> i've been trying to type in japanese for awhile now - i have the language installed, it's added to my keyboard layouts, and there's a flag icon in my toolbar
[08:04] <abg> but when i switch, i can't get it to type in japanese. the only change is apostrophes then appear as colons
[08:04] <titun> SuperQ: humm.....
[08:05] <SuperQ> titun: you should just use apt-get update ; apt-get upgrade
[08:05] <SuperQ> titun: instead of trying to apply single packages by hand
[08:05] <titun> SuperQ: ok... let me do so
[08:05] <thompson> hi there
[08:06] <T0uCH> is there any brands of laptop that were unable tp run ubuntu?
[08:07] <abg> i've been trying to type in japanese for awhile now - i have the language installed, it's added to my keyboard layouts, and there's a flag icon in my toolbar
[08:07] <abg> but when i switch, i can't get it to type in japanese. the only change is apostrophes then appear as colons
[08:07] <abg> does anyone have any suggestions?
[08:08] <phy3> Wakarimasen!
[08:08] <abg> haha, thanks.
[08:09] <liri> where is the file that contains the list of the session startup programs, anyone?
[08:09] <arch01> does anybody have a black screen problem after installing/enabling the latest nvidia drivers on a 1680x1050 laptop with geforce fx go5700.
[08:09] <Jordan_U> T0uCH, ( assuming you meant able not unable ) System 76 sells linux pre-installed with tech support ( real, not outsources script monkeys )
[08:09] <arch01> does anybody have a black screen problem after installing/enabling the latest nvidia drivers on a 1680x1050 laptop with geforce fx go5700.
[08:10] <lasking> i'll get back to mars
[08:11] <titun> apt-get says i have the latest version of libc6, which it shows is 2.5, but i need to install 2.5-7 to solve dependency for pidgin
[08:11] <foo> SuperQ: hmm, interesting, ok
[08:11] <_deselby9_> hi I'm trying to compile mplayer ... but I cant get it to configure with lame support
[08:12] <Flannel> titun: pidgin isn't in the repositories, so that's not unexpected.
[08:12] <titun> Flannel: yes, its not in the repositories
[08:12] <titun> so what to do
[08:12] <SuperQ> foo: yes
[08:12] <Yasuo> moin/hi
[08:12] <SuperQ> titun: oh
[08:13] <Flannel> titun: find a deb that works with feisty, or just use GAIM beta 6
[08:13] <SuperQ> titun: pidgin is probably compiled for a different version of ubuntu
[08:13] <Yasuo> im using ubuntu 6.10 and want to remove totem-mozilla but apt always wants to downgrade it and wont remove it
[08:13] <titun> Flannel: i have the deb for Feisty , but this dependeny on libc6 killing me
[08:14] <Yasuo> its annoying that mp3s aren't being downloaded but played back in mozilla
[08:14] <Flannel> titun: that deb isn't really for feisty.
[08:14] <titun> Flannel: humm...... ok
[08:14] <SuperQ> titun: what is in /etc/lsb-release
[08:14] <Flannel> titun: if it was, it wouldn't depend on that, it'd be for the feisty version of libc6 (2.5-0ubuntuN)
[08:14] <foo> SuperQ: thanks
[08:14] <kevin> hello i cant do apt-key add - ...it just hangs
[08:15] <tael> hola
[08:15] <strabes> Yasuo: cd /usr/lib/firefox/plugins/ && sudo rm libtotem* && sudo apt-get install mplayer mozilla-mplayer
[08:15] <SuperQ> foo: ?
[08:15] <kevin> any ideas?
[08:15] <titun> Flannel: right
[08:15] <clever> kevin: its hanging because its waiting for a key to be fed into stdin
[08:15] <Yasuo> hi kevin strabes Yasuo: cd /usr/lib/firefox/plugins/ && sudo rm libtotem* && sudo apt-get install mplayer mozilla-mplayer <<< thank you but aint this a bit rude?
[08:15] <clever> kevin: if you dont pipe one in youll have to type it in yourself
[08:15] <ferronica> can i use Kubuntu in ubuntu???
[08:15] <titun> SuperQ: no /etc/lsb-release here
[08:16] <Flannel> ferronica: Yes.  They'll coexist nicely
[08:16] <kevin> clever can you take a look at a site for me?
[08:16] <foo> SuperQ: for he tip
[08:16] <foo> for the *
[08:16] <SuperQ> :)
[08:16] <clever> kevin: what site?
[08:16] <Yasuo> kevin, first download the pgp-key then add it via  apt-key add /path/fi/file
[08:16] <skinnypuppy> Works great K and Ubuntu, you choose at the login which gui you want
[08:16] <ferronica> Flannel; to install it i have to creat seperate partition for KDE
[08:16] <kevin> http://compiz.org/Ubuntu_Installation_Guide#Configuring_Compiz
[08:17] <kevin> im under fiesty
[08:17] <kevin> clever, http://compiz.org/Ubuntu_Installation_Guide#Configuring_Compiz
[08:17] <Flannel> ferronica: no.  They both (Ubuntu and Kubuntu (desktop flavors)) will exist on the same Ubuntu (linux distro) install.
[08:17] <skinnypuppy> Just install KDE under synaptic, then KDE will be a login option
[08:17] <clever> kevin: cant click the link atm no mouse
[08:17] <Flannel> ferronica: just install the `kubuntu-desktop` package
[08:17] <tael> cinelerra
[08:17] <clever> kevin: and i dont know how to use compiz
[08:18] <ferronica> Flannel: from where CD ( i have downloded one CD too)
[08:18] <kevin> i just have to figure out how to get the apt-key to work
[08:18] <Flannel> ferronica: Do you have the Desktop CD or the alternate CD?
[08:18] <ferronica> Flannel: i think alternate
[08:18] <_deselby9_> I'm on dapper 64 bit (server)
[08:18] <kevin> Yasuo, I downloaded : wget http://ubuntu.moshen.de/2F306651.gpg -O-
[08:19] <Wiseguy> anyone know the ubotu link for setting up beryl with an nvidia car?
[08:19] <Flannel> ferronica: if it's the alternate, then you can add it to your repositories, and install from that.  But really, you'll need to download updates from the internet anyway.  So just ignore the CD and download the packages from the internet
[08:19] <Yasuo> kevin, then apt-key add 2F306651.gpg
[08:19] <ferronica> Flannel: alternate CD wont give me live options
[08:19] <kevin> sweet thanks
[08:19] <skinnypuppy> ferronica if you are currently booted in ubuntu all you need to do is add kde through the synaptic package manager in ubuntu and it will become a login choice
[08:19] <Flannel> ferronica: that's correct
[08:19] <_deselby9_> anyway lame is complied and installed ... libmp2lame.so is in /usr/local/lib
[08:20] <strabes> Yasuo: why is that rude? I was including a replacement for totem....
[08:20] <Flannel> ferronica: in synaptic, click the "kubuntu-desktop" package, and then hit apply
[08:20] <strabes> Yasuo: the mplayer mozilla plugins are far superior to the totem ones
[08:20] <skinnypuppy> What flannel said, I'v done it both ways.
[08:20] <bradf0rdX> Hey, does anyone know why I can only DL one torrent at a time w/ bittorrent?
[08:21] <mattstang> so I have an odd situation... just wondered if anyone has heard of anyone experiencing the same thing
[08:21] <_deselby9_> when I configure mplayer it doesnt find lame
[08:21] <Yasuo> strabes, yes o <3 mplayer but if i click mp3 i jsut want to download it XD
[08:21] <strabes> _deselby9_: have liblame installed
[08:21] <tael> how to cinelerra in spanish????
[08:22] <mattstang> widescreen... 1440x900.... but part of my desktop is out of the viewing area
[08:22] <_deselby9_> strabes ... I compiled lame
[08:22] <Flannel> !es | tael
[08:22] <ubotu> tael: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[08:22] <strabes> Yasuo: then delete the part about installing mplayer from the command i sent you
[08:22] <gb__> hi guys
[08:22] <kevin> Yasuo, it says no such file or directory
[08:22] <gb__> i need some info on phpbb
[08:22] <gb__> anyone set it up on ubuntu
[08:22] <Yasuo> kevin, well did youi download the pgp-file successfully?
[08:22] <bradf0rdX>  Hey, does anyone know why I can only DL one torrent at a time w/ bittorrent?
[08:22] <kevin> Yasuo,
[08:22] <kevin> Yasuo, yes
[08:23] <skinnypuppy> Anyone think a suse 8.2 pro retail with admin book and user book is worth putting on ebay or feed it to the trash? Any packages from there that would be worth saving?
[08:23] <ferronica> Flannel: there is no use of  alternate CD
[08:23] <Yasuo> kevin, then you may pecify the wrong filename/path
[08:23] <gb__> skinnypuppy,  nope
[08:23] <skinnypuppy>  trash ha?
[08:23] <Flannel> ferronica: eh?  There is.  But not in your case, since you'll need to download most packages again for updates anyway
[08:23] <bradf0rdX>  Hey, does anyone know why I can only DL one torrent at a time w/ bittorrent?
[08:23] <ferronica> Flannel: it will format hdd and fresh install the Kdesktop
[08:24] <gb__> anyone running phpbb on ubuntu?
[08:24] <Flannel> ferronica: No, it wont.  You aren't installing a new OS.  You're installing KDE ontop of your existing Ubuntu install.
[08:24] <jscinoz> bradf0rdX, i recommend you download Azureus and use it instead of the built in BT program
[08:24] <Flannel> !anyone | gb__
[08:24] <ubotu> gb__: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[08:24] <kevin> Yasuo, i think thats what it was, i left off -0- on the end of the link and it workes
[08:24] <ferronica> Flannel: okay
[08:24] <gb__> lol Flannel  u forgot me
[08:24] <gb__> heh
[08:24] <Yasuo> kevin, lol ^^
[08:24] <gb__> how are ya buddy?
[08:24] <necr0mancer> bradf0rdX: That's just how the client is.
[08:24] <necr0mancer> One torrent at a time, try a different client
[08:24] <kevin> Yasuo, thanks alot :)
[08:24] <necr0mancer> Like Azuereus(sp?)
[08:25] <jscinoz> yes
[08:25] <jscinoz> Azureus ftw
[08:25] <Nooie> hello
[08:25] <gb__> and i already did ask the question already like 2 times
[08:25] <ferronica> Flannel: you mean only GUI will change , and from GDM i can choose GNOME and KDE right
[08:25] <Flannel> gb__: doing fine.  Best to just ask your question about phpBB instead of trying to nail someone down
[08:25] <somar> i think utorrent is awesome,  is that windows only?
[08:25] <Flannel> ferronica: correct.
[08:25] <jscinoz> Does anyone know how to edit all items in the places menu, not just the ones added from bookmarks but the ones there by default
[08:25] <necr0mancer> Yeah, i think utorrent is win only
[08:25] <jscinoz> utorrent is windows but i i believe it runs well in WINE
[08:25] <gb__> Flannel,  did not mean to nail someone down
[08:25] <skinnypuppy> Is there anything to edit .FLV video with ???
[08:25] <ferronica> Flannel: and other things remain same
[08:25] <gb__> was just asking
[08:25] <Flannel> ferronica: yep
[08:26] <gb__> i 'm trying to install it myself for the first time here
[08:26] <ferronica> Flannel: one more thing if i use CD then to install KDE
[08:26] <gb__> i'm sorry if u think i was rude
[08:26] <somar> Some people have troubling running utorrent with wine, but works well with WineX/Cedega
[08:26] <Nooie> I have just installed Ubuntu on MS Virtual Machine, its working fine, I'm on it now, but for some reason when I run Firefox it can crash out and I can't do anything but move the mouse, anyone got any ideas?
[08:26] <jscinoz> pity Cedega isnt free
[08:26] <Flannel> gb__: Well, if you really just want to know, then I suppose that's a reasonable question.  But if you're looking for somone who's done it, to ask further questions to, it's best to just ask the eventual question
[08:26] <mattstang> Running Ubuntu 7.02, X.org 7.2 (can't install fglrx driver), 1440x900 screen res, losing 40-50 lines horiz, any ideas?
[08:27] <gb__> Flannel,  how do i set it up, from what i read on google, it says phpbb after install should be in /var/www
[08:27] <jscinoz> and.. the panel just crashed...
[08:27] <gb__> but i dont see anything there
[08:28] <jscinoz> How can i bind the System Monitor to Ctrl-Alt-Del
[08:28] <Nooie> I have just installed Ubuntu on MS Virtual Machine, its working fine, I'm on it now, but for some reason when I run Firefox it can crash out and I can't do anything but move the mouse, anyone got any ideas?
[08:28] <mattstang> jscinoz:  I think that'd depend on your WM
[08:28] <jscinoz> WM?
[08:28] <jscinoz> oh
[08:28] <jscinoz> metacity
[08:29] <jscinoz> =P
[08:29] <Yasuo> install IE
[08:29] <Flannel> gb__: the package doesn't seem to put anything into /var/www, you might read the READMEs in /usr/share/doc/phpbb2/
[08:29] <gb__> ok thanks
[08:29] <Tomcat_> jscinoz: That'll be difficult, because init/upstart is set to catch ctrl-alt-del to reboot. :)
[08:29] <mattstang> jscinoz:  KDE, Gnome.....
[08:29] <jscinoz> Gnome,
[08:29] <leafw> any ideas on how to take a screenshot that *includes* the mouse pointer ?
[08:29] <Nooie> was that for me?
[08:30] <jscinoz> wait nevermind..
[08:30] <mattstang> :)
[08:30] <jscinoz> just found it as an install option in automatix
[08:30] <Yasuo> leafw any ideas on how to take a screenshot that *includes* the mouse pointer ? yyy xvidcap makes videos but also screenshots and you can define to include mousepointer
[08:31] <Nooie> Anyone know of Firefox crashing?
[08:31] <Flannel> !automatix | jscinoz
[08:31] <ubotu> jscinoz: Automatix2 is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[08:31] <Yasuo> Nooie, maybe wrong display driver? dunno, install internetexplorer@wine XD
[08:31] <somar> what is the ntfs package I need to install again? ntfs_3g?
[08:31] <eternaljoy> !joost
[08:31] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about joost - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:31] <jscinoz> I know flannel, im not asking for help with it =P
[08:32] <[Neurotic] > still trying to get my usb network cable working, I have noted that usbnet is core to ubuntu, but when I plug in my usb cable, both eth0 and usb0 get IP addresses? You can see ifconfig, and route -n here http://www.pasteserver.net/1044 I assume I need to tell ubuntu to somehow resolve one or the other?
[08:32] <jscinoz> Next question: How can one edit all items in the places menu, not just the ones added from bookmarks but the ones there by default
[08:32] <al-kk> How could I run a program on a DuoCore computer let it use one cpu only?
[08:32] <mattstang> Running Ubuntu 7.02, X.org 7.2 (can't install fglrx driver), 1440x900 screen res, losing 40-50 lines horiz, any ideas?
[08:32] <al-kk> help
[08:32] <Nooie> Hi Yansuo, Sorry new to IRC and Linux, I'm a serious windows freak. Where can I get IE from? if Firefox doesn't work?
[08:32] <rAstari> HELP I've trawled the net with this error everytime I try load anything using a GUI - ""unable to copy users xauthorization file"
[08:33] <rAstari> what does it portend?
[08:33] <Toma-> Nooie: firefox will work.
[08:33] <al-kk> how could the programs run just using one cpu on a DuoCore pc?
[08:33] <bradf0rdX> jscinoz, k sweet, thank you.
[08:33] <Nooie> Toma - Its been crashing the whole system out.
[08:33] <jscinoz> Nooie, if you really want IE http://www.tatanka.com.br/
[08:33] <al-kk> how could the programs run just using one cpu on a DuoCore pc?
[08:33] <Toma-> Nooie: IE wont solve your problems. Try running "galeon" as an alternative
[08:34] <Toma-> Nooie: at least till you fix firefox :)
[08:34] <mattstang> if its not multithreaded app
[08:34] <mattstang> al-kk
[08:34] <jscinoz> How can one edit all items in the places menu, not just the ones added from bookmarks but the ones there by default?
[08:34] <Nooie> Toma: New to linux but hopefully I'll get there :-)
[08:34] <al-kk> Mattstang,
[08:34] <rAstari> anyone know the meaning to this error - "unable to copy users xauthorization file"
[08:35] <al-kk> Mattstang, the problem is the program's timing function goes to a Duoble speed
[08:35] <Toma-> Nooie: Have you read the User Guide that comes with Ubuntu? its a massive help to get used to using Ubuntu :)
[08:35] <mattstang> al-kk, just one app is doing this?  or all apps?
[08:35] <Wiseguy> hey guys, can anyone recommend a decent torrent app?
[08:35] <sorsis> is there way to contact wine package maintainer. i need wine on A64
[08:35] <al-kk> Mattstang, just one , the VBA  visual playboy
[08:36] <Nooie> Toma: off the website?
[08:36] <Toma-> Wiseguy: deluge
[08:36] <al-kk> Mattstang, just one , the VBA  visual playboy adv
[08:36] <MM2_> Wiseguy: azureus?
[08:36] <mwe> jscinoz: I think you need to mess with the files in /var/lib/gnome. they will be overwritten when you update, though.
[08:36] <rAstari> anyone know the meaning to this error - "unable to copy users xauthorization file"
[08:36] <Toma-> Nooie: nope, Click SYstem, then Help + SUpport
[08:36] <jscinoz> ok thanks
[08:36] <al-kk> Mattstang, could I use any command to solve it?
[08:36] <mattstang> al-kk, I'd send an email to the support folks for that app... sounds like its not multithreaded
[08:37] <jscinoz> mwe, i don't have a gnome folder in /var/lib
[08:37] <Nooie> Toma: Found, and reading. Thanks!
[08:37] <cwraig> wiseguy: Azureus is a bit of a pain int he arse cause it needs java
[08:37] <al-kk> Mattstang, yes, thank you
[08:37] <Wiseguy> cwraig, do you have an alternate suggestion?
[08:37] <rAstari> anyone know the meaning to this error - "unable to copy users xauthorization file"
[08:37] <al-kk> Mattstang, but in the program the time goes too fast
[08:37] <al-kk> Mattstang, the time goes double speed
[08:38] <mattstang> al-kk, all the more reason to report to the support folks for the app... sounds like a bug to me :)
[08:38] <skinnypuppy> Finally using XP on VMware server on feisty with beryl. I can't belive this all works on 256 megs of 133 ram !
[08:38] <Toma-> Nooie: no problem! if you have any problems with anything, come ask for help in here, and if you dont get a reponse straight away, wait a few minutes, or make a coffee, or read digg and ask again. failing that, post your question on the ubuntuforums!
[08:38] <mattstang> Running Ubuntu 7.02, X.org 7.2 (can't install fglrx driver), 1440x900 screen res, losing 40-50 lines horiz, any ideas?
[08:38] <Eythan> Here comes the sun!
[08:38] <Eythan> It's working
[08:38] <al-kk> Mattstang, thanks, bless you
[08:38] <Nooie> Toma: Cool will do. Once again thanks for pointing me in the right direction!
[08:38] <mattstang> al-kk, sorry I couldn't be more help
[08:39] <mattstang> al-kk, sometimes, that is the only route to go
[08:39] <rAstari> why can I only run apps with sudo, but not the gui?
[08:39] <[Neurotic] > What is 'link-local' on a routing table? ... I'm not sure what it means?
[08:39] <jxxxt> rAstari: www.ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-367176.html it does not look good though!!
[08:39] <al-kk> Mattstang, thanks
[08:39] <mattstang> rAstari, all apps????
[08:39] <Toma-> Nooie: no probs :) also, if youre using xhat right now for chat, you can hit tab to "Auto Complete" someones nickname
[08:39] <rAstari> mattstang:mostly apps that require admin rights
[08:40] <Eythan> I'm officially no longer setting up a dual-boot, my computer didn't want that
[08:40] <Nooie> Toma: Its Gaim, I think.
[08:40] <dooglus> is it possible to restart the beagle indexer without rebooting or logging out&in?
[08:40] <Eythan> I'm going to be fully Ubuntued.
[08:40] <mwe> jscinoz: /var/lib/menu-xdg or something. the .desktop files. try locate .desktop
[08:40] <mattstang> rAstari, apps that are owned by root should require sudo access... otherwise that'd be a security hole
[08:40] <dooglus> it seems to have stopped working
[08:40] <Toma-> Nooie: ahh never mind then :)
[08:40] <skinnypuppy> Dumb question perhaps, but could I install OSX onto a desktop pc using Vmserver on feisty?
[08:40] <berent> I wonder why we should rip to see a vcd/dvd
[08:41] <phy3> Eythan, do you have two hard disks?
[08:41] <mattstang> skinnypuppy, I doubt it...
[08:41] <Eythan> phy3 Unfortunately, no
[08:41] <Eythan> phy3 I was trying to set up partitions, but it would seem Windows had other ideas
[08:41] <azhar> test
[08:41] <dooglus> !beagled
[08:41] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about beagled - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:41] <dooglus> !beagle
[08:41] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about beagle - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:41] <phy3> I run linux on one, Win on the other, choose boout using BIOS, works fine, no conflicts
[08:41] <skinnypuppy> Just wondering since they have the intel based procs now
[08:41] <Eythan> phy3 In the process, I destroyed my XP install :P
[08:41] <mattstang> skinnypuppy, does VMware server even support OSX at this time?  my understanding is that it does not
[08:42] <Eythan> phy3 And I no longer have the restored discs, so Ubuntu = a go go
[08:42] <skinnypuppy> noob , just wondering.
[08:42] <mwe> !info beagle
[08:42] <ubotu> beagle: indexing and search tool for your personal data. In component main, is optional. Version <IP_ADDRESS>-0ubuntu4 (feisty), package size 883 kB, installed size 3892 kB
[08:42] <phy3> GRUB is on linux disk, has no clue for windows, windows never disturbed by linux
[08:42] <mattstang> skinnypuppy, I think you'd have to run it not via virtual machine
[08:42] <rAstari> mattstang: what I mean is, I have to go to console to run synaptic, or firestarter, indeed any app that requires admin rights, I cant just choose them from the gui
[08:42] <berent> I wonder why we should rip to see a vcd/dvd
[08:43] <jumbers> Is there any way to get rid of that tiny pause XMMS does between songs?
[08:43] <mattstang> skinnypuppy, I know you used to have to use some app called bootcamp before to run OSX on a core duo proc PC
[08:43] <rAstari> jxxxt: yeah, saw that one earlier, but I dont have a server install - I really dont want to reinstall ubuntu
[08:43] <dooglus> mwe: I have beagle installed, and it has been working in the past, but now it seems to have stopped indexing new files I make.  I wondering how to restart it without logging out
[08:44] <skinnypuppy> I'm installing mastercam on my first XP virtual machine right now. can't belive how well feisty works with beryl.... great!
[08:44] <gb__> nah no luck
[08:44] <mattstang> Running Ubuntu 7.02, X.org 7.2 (can't install fglrx driver), 1440x900 screen res, losing 40-50 lines horiz, any ideas?
[08:44] <jxxxt> rAstari: Fair enough I did not know so I just had a quick google to see if there was anything ;-)
[08:44] <rAstari> jumbers: go to xmms prefs, click  the o0ptions tab, look for "silence between songs"
[08:45] <mattstang> rAstari, I'm not really familiar with those apps, check to see whom owns the binary
[08:46] <ltracy> hi, anybody have any pointers on the best way to easily migrate between wireless networks?  I keep having trouble switching from one to another.
[08:46] <kod> Hey.
[08:47] <kod> I ahve a really wierd problem.
[08:47] <kod> *have
[08:47] <mattstang> kod, just ask dood
[08:47] <jumbers> rAstari: It's not that, it's a very short pause.
[08:47] <eternaljoy> anyone gotten quake4-demo to work on feisty?
[08:47] <jumbers> rAstari: I'd say less than half a second
[08:47] <kod> so if i start ubuntu normally, my gdm fails to start correctly. i get a black screen.
[08:48] <ltracy> I want to be able to set preferred networks, and have it automatically connect to the most preferred
[08:48] <kod> if i start in matinence mode, then start up gdm it works fine
[08:48] <kod> anyindeas?
[08:48] <jxxxt> ltracy: when I was switching networks all the time I just opened the gui network thing and selected the one I wanted
[08:48] <kod> gah, *any ideas
[08:48] <ltracy> jxxxt it seems to not rerun dhclient or something when I switch sometimes.. Maybe I was doing something wrong.
[08:49] <ltracy> kod check /var/log/XOrg.0.log
[08:49] <jxxxt> ltracy: It tends to select the last known for some rason
[08:49] <resistance1> lol codename nub
[08:49] <codenamexiii> hi
[08:50] <bullgard4> What 'embedded controller' is meant in my directory /proc/acpi/embedded_controller/EC0/ ?
[08:50] <rAstari> jumbers: is the music on a the same partition as ubuntu, or is it on another partition?
[08:50] <jxxxt> ltracy: Might be that the network is too weak to form a  good connection that caught me a few times
[08:50] <codenamexiii> Hey guys, trying to Install the MP3 plugin for GStreamer, or is there any quick for Mp3 support for Ubuntu, I just installed it.
[08:50] <ltracy> jxxxt the ones on campus are a little weird too.. they do a noCat thing which messes things up sometimes
[08:50] <rAstari> mattstang: thanks anyhow :p
[08:50] <[Neurotic] > if i go route -n, and I have two of the same gateways listened for two different Ifaces, is this bad?
[08:51] <somar> !mp3
[08:51] <somar> =/
[08:51] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[08:51] <kod> all i've got is wacom errors. is that enough to kill it?
[08:51] <jumbers> rAstari: I found something that should fix it called xmms-crossfade which has the ability to do continuous output, but I installed it and do not see the plugin listed
[08:51] <ltracy> kod, probably.. is that how it ends?
[08:51] <Dramakus> can some1 help me w/ setting up my screen resolutions?  for some reason whenever I enable my nvidia driver it restricts my resolution to 800x600 and it removes all title bars.
[08:52] <codenamexiii> Is there any easy way to install a MP3 encoder?
[08:52] <ltracy> kod, btw- I think that log is from the last time X started, so if you've booted successfully more than once, it isn't relavent
[08:52] <ltracy> (i.e. in your recovery mode twice)
[08:52] <kod> mmkay, i can reboot and then check it before i restart x
[08:52] <kod> .old doesn't say anything either
[08:52] <ltracy> kod: it should tell you why it didn't start
[08:53] <codenamexiii> Can anyone help?
[08:53] <kod> i think it stalls
[08:53] <kod> no death
[08:53] <rAstari> jumbers : soz, dont know any further, xmms must have a channel on here, check
[08:53] <eternaljoy> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/20118/  <-- anuone tell me why quake4-demo wont run?
[08:53] <ltracy> kod: well, at least a hint then :)
[08:53] <Rei-chan> !mp3 | codenamexiii
[08:53] <ubotu> codenamexiii: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[08:53] <kod> a hint?
[08:53] <Rei-chan> That should get you started, codenamexiii.
[08:53] <ltracy> kod: a hint to why it stalls
[08:53] <DanaG> Argh, acpid is spamming my console with hundreds of lines of this:
[08:53] <kod> ok, lol
[08:53] <kod> brb
[08:53] <ubuntubeginz> hi guys, how do u close a hanged program in ubuntu... is there sumtin like a taskbar(windows) in ubuntu
[08:54] <jxxxt> zcat[1] : I think I have a hardware problem I am getting a burn error on a 1x burn speed
[08:54] <DanaG> Using fallback suid method.
[08:54] <DanaG> Using fallback suid method.   ..... two lines is enough.....
[08:54] <rAstari> ubuntubegins: in console type xkill
[08:55] <codenamexiii> thanks i have another question
[08:55] <codenamexiii> How do i run Stepmania
[08:55] <rAstari> ubuntubegins: drag the skull-bones to the app to blame 'n click it - POOF! Its gone
[08:55] <Dramakus> Can anyone help me w/ my screen resolution problem?  NVidia Driver enabled forces 800x600 can't change
[08:57] <ubuntubeginz> rAstari : whoa... :O ...wat a command... thanks dude
[08:57] <rAstari> ubuntubeginz : no worries
[08:58] <mypapit> hello ubuntuter
[08:58] <DanaG> Another odd thing: sometimes the console starts scrolling weirdly:
[08:58] <mattstang> Dramakus, might have something to do with your monitor VertRefresh or Hsync
[08:58] <DanaG> where it'll move horizontally, too.
[08:58] <Dramakus> I've tried that i used 60 hz which I know is compatible
[08:59] <codenamexiii> Still can't get anything to work
[08:59] <codenamexiii> :(
[08:59] <codenamexiii> Need step by step
[08:59] <codenamexiii> im a noob
[08:59] <codenamexiii> just installed ubuntu today
[08:59] <mattstang> If the output of my xorg log says my virtualX is 1440 but displayWidth is 1472, would there also be an extension of Height as well?  My desktop runs off my LCD and does not Hsize control
[09:00] <sorsis> codenamexiii: whats the problem?
[09:00] <juliane12> hi
[09:00] <juliane12>   .lfkweriqwpierwpiiwrwirwpppppppppppppppppp
[09:00] <Myrtti> juliane12: hello.
[09:01] <kod> looks like it's stalling on loading the fglrx module
[09:01] <denardo> Hi, all. I'm trying to upgrade to Feisty from Edgy, but I apparently need more room on my root partition. df says I have 384668K available. Any idea what might be gunk that I could safely clear off?
[09:01] <DanaG>
[09:02] <Myrtti> denardo: try first to run "sudo apt-get clean"
[09:02] <DanaG> Oh, install Filelight for a nifty disk-usage graph.
[09:02] <mattstang> how can I easily downgrade from Xorg 7.2 to 7.1 so I can use ATI branded drivers?
[09:02] <denardo> Myrtti: That brings me up to 387800
[09:02] <codenamexiii> CAN ANYONE TELL ME HOW TO USE FLUENDO
[09:02] <DanaG> Any idea about "Using fallback suid method."?
[09:02] <codenamexiii> ??
[09:03] <Myrtti> codenamexiii: please...
[09:03] <DanaG> Dude, caps lock is uncool.
[09:03] <mattstang> fuhreal
[09:03] <codenamexiii> sorry
[09:03] <DanaG> Urgh, I reeeeeally need to go to bed now.
[09:03] <DanaG> Bye-yuzz.
[09:04] <jxxxt> codenameexiii, sorsis just tried to help you b4
[09:04] <jxxxt> codenamexiii, sorsis just tried to help you b4
[09:05] <codenamexiii> Well it's not working.
[09:05] <codenamexiii> I've tried pretty much everything.
[09:05] <felixx> good evening everyone
[09:05] <felixx> er morning
[09:05] <mattstang> evening
[09:05] <Myrtti> morning
[09:05] <Dramakus> what should HorizSync and VertRefresh be at (general range)?
[09:06] <[Neurotic] > Can anyone provide me an example of someone successfully doing a USB network connection with Ubuntu? Seems like everyone is trying to do it (me included) and nobody can get anywhere.. :(
[09:06] <mattstang> Dramakus, I PMed you some ?'s
[09:06] <jason__> anyone know any cool repos to add to list
[09:06] <mattstang> to help you out dood
[09:06] <Dramakus> I didn't get em
[09:06] <Myrtti> mattstang, Dramakus, are you registered to freenode
[09:06] <Myrtti> you need to be to pm
[09:06] <sorsis> codenamexiii: you want to use fluendo-mp3 decoder?
[09:06] <Dramakus> I am as of a couple sec ago
[09:07] <codenamexiii> Yea man
[09:07] <mattstang> ohhhh... no I'm not
[09:07] <codenamexiii> anything to play mp3s
[09:07] <Myrtti> Dramakus: google the ranges that your display supports
[09:07] <codenamexiii> ANYTHING
[09:07] <codenamexiii> ive been trying for atleast 5 hours
[09:07] <codenamexiii> since 7
[09:07] <sorsis> codenamexiii: I'm using amarok and it kicks ass
[09:07] <felixx> what about mp4's?
[09:07] <felixx> whats used for that?
[09:07] <codenamexiii> what build of Ubuntu you have?
[09:07] <codenamexiii> Sorsis PM Me
[09:07] <felixx> feisty
[09:07] <kinkin> codenamexiii: try xmms - http://www.xmms.org/
[09:08] <sorsis> codenamexiii: i would suggest you to install kubuntu if you are noob with linux
[09:08] <sorsis> codenamexiii: kubuntu holds more easily usable software and amarok kicks ass as musicplayer
[09:08] <kinkin> codenamexiii: give xmms a shot, and have a good night, going to bed.
[09:08] <Madpilot> ubotu, mp3 | codenamexiii
[09:08] <sorsis> codenamexiii: xmms is good too. it is very similar to winamp
[09:08] <ubotu> codenamexiii: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[09:08] <codenamexiii> i pmed you Sorsis
[09:09] <drsys> l
[09:09] <[Neurotic] > arg... noone can help me with this? there must be a way to do a usb network connection.. the thing works on doze :P
[09:09] <mattstang> Myrtti, how do I go about registering... I'm on freenode.org and I dont seem to see a user registration link
[09:09] <Madpilot> codenamexiii, you need to be registered w/ Freenode to send PMs
[09:09] <Myrtti> !register | mattstang
[09:09] <ubotu> mattstang: Information about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration
[09:09] <zilly66> anyone know how to convert a DVD to an ISO?
[09:09] <codenamexiii> sorsis you there?
[09:09] <sorsis> codenamexiii: yes
[09:09] <zilly66> !iso
[09:09] <ubotu> To mount an ISO disc image, type  sudo mount -o loop <ISO-filename> <mountpoint>  - There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion - Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before !burning.
[09:09] <codenamexiii> lets talk im PM Man
[09:09] <codenamexiii> i really need help man
[09:10] <sorsis> PM? you mean privately
[09:10] <bayziders> How do you cd to a file with a space in its name?
[09:10] <jxxxt> zilly66: DeVeDe wil
[09:10] <ssaa> please i need some help please . I have an Ati 64 MB video card and i dont know why beryl doesn't look as good as in an intel 950 32MB card from a friend. maybe i'm missing a driver?
[09:10] <Myrtti> bayziders: escape it with \
[09:10] <eternaljoy> anyone know why these errors occur when runnung quake4-demo ?  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/20126/
[09:10] <zilly66> thanks jxxxt
[09:10] <vm> hrm
[09:10] <phy2> use parenthesis around the filename
[09:10] <vm> whats the quakenet server address?
[09:10] <Myrtti> bayziders: cd file\ with\ spaces\ in\ it.txt
[09:10] <jxxxt> zilly66: NP
[09:11] <Myrtti> or whatever
[09:11] <zilly66> jxxxt does it also back up DVDs?
[09:11] <pppoe_dude> phy2: you mean quotation marks?
[09:12] <phy2> duh!
[09:12] <sorsis> vm: irc.quakenet.org
[09:12] <phy2> yes
[09:12] <pppoe_dude> parentheses == '(', ')'
[09:12] <jxxxt> zilly66: Too hard question I know I can dragand drop and change formats but I am a noob :-(
[09:12] <fierycleric> any one know how to fix: i set my power-management  to sleep after 20 minutes of inactivity come back 5 hours later and the laptop is still turned on .... any ideas?
[09:13] <zilly66> jxxxt i was looking to backup my dvd to an iso, i guess devede isn't the solution?
[09:13] <phy2> pppoe_dude  -- That is a nice looking emoticon you just invented
[09:14] <zilly66> here's lookin at you phy2 '('
[09:14] <pppoe_dude> phy2: that it is ;)
[09:14] <jxxxt> zilly66: It does create iso and several other formats it is a small d/l so I think it is worth a look
[09:14] <zilly66> i installed it
[09:14] <eternaljoy> anyone know why these errors occur when runnung quake4-demo ?  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/20126/
[09:14] <zilly66> jxxxt it seems to author a DVD
[09:15] <wehttamb_> how do i get emerald to aply its themes in beryl
[09:15] <lethu> fierycleric, maybe your system isn't inactive
[09:15] <jxxxt> zilly66: Yes is that not what you want
[09:15] <Matthai> hi, anybody knows how to create encrypted USB key? with luksformat?
[09:15] <zilly66> http://www.digg.com/linux_unix/Ubuntu_Linux_Tip_of_the_Day_CD_DVD_Burning_Guide_Feisty_7_04
[09:15] <fierycleric> lethu: so its not based on the screensaver?
[09:15] <vm> has anyone managed to get beryl working with an ATI radeon x1600?
[09:15] <kaann07> Enter text here...slm
[09:15] <kaann07> nhr
[09:16] <crdlb> vm: you'll have a much easier time with compiz
[09:16] <crdlb> vm: do you have fglrx working?
[09:16] <wehttamb_> how do i get emerald to aply its themes in beryl
[09:16] <lethu> fierycleric, I don't really know, you should look in the ubuntu forums
[09:16] <vm> I am new to linux, but after my third attempt, I have the ati proprietry drivers working, and when i fglrxinfo into terminal all seems well
[09:17] <crdlb> vm: then use: method A of https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/Xgl
[09:17] <crdlb> to set up Xgl
[09:18] <vm> oh yeah, and is it advisable, when it gives u 2 options to take the terminal route? cause i have been doin that a fair bit and seems like a quicker way to do it
[09:19] <crdlb> vm: what do you mean?
[09:19] <crdlb> just use Method A
[09:19] <vm> heh, i mean is it worth me learning terminal
[09:19] <worsnak> seems like ubuntu will be going places. http://www.businessweek.com/globalbiz/content/may2007/gb20070509_681142.htm?chan=top+news_top+news+index_global+business
[09:20] <phy2> "distro du jour"
[09:20] <mattstang> Need help with downgrading Xorg in Edgy from 7.2 to 7.1
[09:20] <eshaase> so what does it mean when my system freezes and my hard disk starts clicking?
[09:21] <mattstang> eshaase, something bad is happening
[09:21] <eshaase> mattstang: what specifically?
[09:21] <mattstang> bad hard drive most likely
[09:21] <mattstang> or on its last leg
[09:21] <phy2> Disk noises are not a good thing.
[09:21] <vm> eshaase: something very bad, If the physical drive is clicking its gonna die pretty soon, backup everything, then get a new hdd?
[09:21] <mattstang> if it goes zzzzztick........zzzzzzzztick
[09:22] <mattstang> then that usually means disk is done
[09:22] <worsnak> are debian and ubuntu packages interchangable?
[09:22] <MikeB-> worsnak, no
[09:23] <eternaljoy> anyone here experienced to know what causes these errors when running quake4-demo pls?  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/20127/
[09:23] <wehttamb_> i installed beryl and emerald but emerald wont aply any of it themes wen i click on them
[09:23] <worsnak> if i am now debian and i want to switch ubuntu, it would mean a complete re-installation?
[09:23] <wehttamb_> how do i aply them
[09:24] <eshaase> i have two hard drives, what can i use to determine which hard drive is bad?
[09:24] <MikeB-> worsnak: yes, the both use a debian base, but some of the libraries  and the kernel are greatly different
[09:24] <vm> so, could someone explain to me what a shell script is?
[09:25] <wehttamb_> how do i aply emerald themes to beryl
[09:25] <worsnak> MikeB-: i think this is something ubuntu folks should work on, making it a seamless effort to switchover fr debian.
[09:25] <phy2> shell script, basically a list of commands in a text file
[09:25] <lethu> vm, did you ever use windows?
[09:25] <phy2> you mean DOS
[09:26] <ssaa> please i need some help please . I have an Ati 64 MB video card and i dont know why beryl doesn't look as good as in an intel 950 32MB card from a friend. maybe i'm missing a driver?
[09:26] <lethu> phy2, dos or windows, in both of them you find .bat files which are the equivalent of shell scripts
[09:26] <worsnak> MikeB-: when even the kernel is greatly different, what debian base is there to speak of?
[09:26] <MikeB-> worsnak: I do not think is would be as easy as you think
[09:26] <vm> oh k
[09:26] <Frogzoo> vm: a shell script is just a file that feeds commands to your shell instead of you entering them yourself - but it's very powerful and has all the functionality of a full blown programming language
[09:27] <vm> yes being a 17 year old that goes too highschool i know my way around bat files lol
[09:27] <phy2> That's what I meant to say
[09:27] <vm> Frogzoo: ty
[09:27] <lethu> vm, : )
[09:28] <vm> and is there a difference between using the sudo command in terminal, instead of gksudo?
[09:28] <mattstang> vm, "man sudo" then "man gksudo" :)
[09:29] <vm> lol wow, that helps ty
[09:29] <mattstang> hehe, sorry... I'm getting cranky because I'm getting no love ;)
[09:29] <vm> lol i am a linux virgin here
[09:30] <mattstang> oh, well man pages are a GREAT way to start learning quickly
[09:30] <mattstang> vm, some of it will be over your head, but you can grab some key points... and I'd bet you can find the differences
[09:31] <Frogzoo> !docs
[09:31] <ubotu> documentation is to be found at http://help.ubuntu.com and http://wiki.ubuntu.com - General linux documentation: http://www.tldp.org - http://rute.2038bug.com
[09:32] <mattstang> Anyone gone through the process of downgrading Xorg from 7.2 to 7.1 in Ubuntu 7.02?
[09:32] <vm> heh i will pic it up pretty quick
[09:33] <Defian> Nope. Why would you want to?
[09:33] <glitchz> hows australia vm?
[09:33] <stbcomp> hi all
[09:33] <denardo> I have to clear 500M off my / partition to upgrade to feisty, even after a "sudo apt-get clean" and removing /var/log/*.gz . Any ideas what else I can clear off?
[09:33] <vm> lol someone been whois ay, tis awesome
[09:33] <mattstang> Defian, my screen res is set to 1440x900... but it sure seems that its more like 1440x940
[09:33] <mattstang> xwininfo is report 1440x900
[09:34] <bullgard4> What 'embedded controller' is meant in my directory /proc/acpi/embedded_controller/EC0/ ?
[09:34] <zilly66> !dvd
[09:34] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[09:34] <Defian> I see
[09:34] <vm> brb, time to c if xgl works *cross fingers*
[09:34] <Defian> you should be able to just edit it
[09:34] <mattstang> so I want to install ati fglrx drivers
[09:34] <stbcomp> Anybody had any luck in getting an saa7134 tv card working on feisty?
[09:34] <kraut> moin
[09:34] <Defian> 7134?
[09:34] <mattstang> which does not support Xorg 7.2
[09:34] <stbcomp> hmmm one sec
[09:34] <virdiq> denardo, do this: find / -type f -size +20000k -exec ls -lh {} \; | awk '{ print $9 ": " $5 }'
[09:35] <Defian> stbcomp heh I have the same card
[09:35] <stbcomp> any luck with it defian?
[09:35] <virdiq> denardo: it'll print all files larger than 20MB on your system... so you can use it to see if there are any really large wastes of space
[09:35] <pirx> hey! i have installed ubuntu, and my wireless network card seems to work. in the network manager applet i see the 3 wireless networks that i think i should see, but the signal strength seems to be zero (according to the network manager applet)... its a stationary computer with a pci card (ifconfig calls it ra0). my laptop right next to it (also running ubuntu) connects just fine to the network. what could be the problem?
[09:35] <Defian> afraid not, it's actually part of the reason I came in here, stbcomp
[09:35] <virdiq> denardo: but don't just delete files! you need to make sure they're not part of an existing application/package... and if they are, remove the package properly using apt
[09:36] <stbcomp> aha
[09:36] <stbcomp> so I'm not alone here
[09:36] <Dramakus> u still in here stang?
[09:36] <Defian> is it the cheapy kworld one off of newegg? lol
[09:36] <pirx> when i run "iwlist scan" it says that the link quality is 71/100, whatever that m,eans
[09:36] <vm> hrm my login screen has like the biggest reso i have ever seen, and the text is miniscule, any ideas how to fix?
[09:36] <stbcomp> just one that came with the pc
[09:36] <coz_> doesn anyone here know where to find libgtkglextmm .it was missing in feisty one week before release and  i cannot find it
[09:36] <Defian> ah
[09:36] <stbcomp> it's a lifeview
[09:36] <Defian> I got mine for $20
[09:36] <mattstang> Dramakus, yup
[09:36] <denardo> virdiq: Checking now...
[09:36] <stbcomp> makes you wonder.......
[09:37] <stbcomp> I'll let you know if I come up with anything
[09:37] <vm> hrm my login screen has like the biggest reso i have ever seen, and the text is miniscule, any ideas how to fix?? sorry bout the spam but cant test xgl till i fix it >_<
[09:37] <Defian> likewise
[09:38] <stbcomp> thanks
[09:38] <denardo> virdiq: That may not be acting as expected. I'm getting a lot of lines that say, for example, "and: 27M"
[09:38] <stbcomp> Mines a flytv platinum mini
[09:39] <lethu> vm, is the screen reso the same even after logging in?
[09:39] <vm> no, i changed it once i logged in, but the logon screen is still massive
[09:40] <lethu> vm, check your xorg.conf file's resolutions
[09:40] <vm> okay
[09:40] <denardo> virdiq: Looks like an awk problem. And it's also looking at my Windows partition which it doesn;t need to. But it's a start.
[09:40] <mattstang> invoke xwininfo and click your background... it'll tell you the actual resolution
[09:41] <vm> holy crap i even remembered the command and location lol, *tears of pride* :P
[09:41] <eternaljoy> any1 know where I can get Enemy Territory for Ubuntu pls?
[09:41] <lethu> vm, lol
[09:41] <mattstang> also check /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[09:42] <lethu> eternaljoy, google for the .run installer for linux
[09:42] <vm> lethu, what exactly am i looking for, cause i cant find anymention of the 1960x something reso that the logon screen is at
[09:42] <eternaljoy> lethu: quake4 wont run!  can u look at the errors for me?
[09:44] <lethu> vm, look for what is the default resolution in your conf file
[09:44] <brutopia> eternaljoy: just paste them in pastebin.ca
[09:44] <lethu> eternaljoy, sure but I guaranty nothing : )
[09:45] <TW> hi all
[09:45] <vm> lethu, it doesnt say
[09:45] <eternaljoy> brutopia: ok
[09:46] <TW> anyone can give me a hint for a ide raid card?
[09:46] <lethu> vm, what is the "DefaultDepth" in your conf file
[09:46] <eternaljoy> brutopia: http://pastebin.ca/480367
[09:46] <eternaljoy> lethu: http://pastebin.ca/480367
[09:47] <lethu> vm, when you have located that look for the subsection with that depth the you got your default resolutions
[09:47] <lethu> eternaljoy, one moment please
[09:48] <eternaljoy> lethu: ty
[09:48] <brutopia> eternaljoy: could you paste also output of command "glxinfo |head -40" there
[09:48] <eternaljoy> ok
[09:48] <wolke> hi! i have a usb stick with 4 partitions. all of them are formatted. but my edgy will recognize only the first two
[09:48] <wolke> what can i do?
[09:49] <eternaljoy> brutopia: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/20130/
[09:49] <eternaljoy> brutopia: what does extension "GLX" missing on display mean?
[09:49] <brutopia> and then contents of your /etc/X11/xorg.conf file
[09:50] <eternaljoy> brutopia: ok brb
[09:50] <brutopia> it's an extension for X server, which takes care of drawing stuff on the screen
[09:50] <vm> Section "Screen"
[09:50] <vm> 	Identifier "aticonfig-Screen[0] "
[09:50] <vm> 	Device     "aticonfig-Device[0] "
[09:50] <vm> 	Monitor    "aticonfig-Monitor[0] "
[09:50] <vm> 	DefaultDepth     24
[09:50] <vm> 	SubSection "Display"
[09:50] <vm> 		Viewport   0 0
[09:50] <vm> 		Depth     24
[09:50] <vm> 	EndSubSection
[09:50] <lethu> vm don't past in the chan
[09:50] <lethu> you might get kicked
[09:50] <virdiq> denardo: http://www.lifeaftercoffee.com/2007/04/05/using-the-find-command-in-linux-and-unix/
[09:50] <vm> and then, under the 24 depth section its highest reso is 1024x768,
[09:50] <eternaljoy> brutopia: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/20131/
[09:50] <vm> oh k sry
[09:50] <BillyVan_> anyone knows how adjust left/right   up/down my monitor ?
[09:51] <virdiq> denardo: find /directory/ -size +10000k
[09:51] <lethu> vm, np
[09:51] <wolke> would anyone help me with my usb-stick please?
[09:51] <eternaljoy> brutopia: do you neeed anything else?
[09:52] <vm> lethu, >>http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/20132/
[09:52] <felipec> is it possible to install Ubuntu from the network? so I don't have to download the whole CD image
[09:53] <lethu> vm, ok one moment plz
[09:53] <mattstang> Still looking for help with downgrading Xorg to 7.1 (ati fglrx driver doesn't support Xorg 7.2).  If anyone can help I'd be very grateful
[09:53] <H264> quick question
[09:53] <brutopia> eternaljoy: it seems that you should install restricted drivers for your display adapter
[09:53] <brutopia> which version of ubuntu are you using
[09:53] <eternaljoy> brutopia: what do you mean?
[09:53] <H264> how many different DVD editions are there?
[09:53] <eternaljoy> brutopia: feisty
[09:53] <idefix> felipec: yes but the installer will still download about 700mb of deb files
[09:54] <H264> (for Ubuntu only)
[09:54] <brutopia> okay, type sudo restricted-manager in console
[09:54] <eternaljoy> ok
[09:54] <mattstang> H264, dvd editions?
[09:54] <eternaljoy> brutopia: 2 items show
[09:54] <mattstang> H264, ohhh... of the livecd/installcd?
[09:54] <H264> mattstang: yeah
[09:54] <brutopia> eternaljoy: could you tell names of those items
[09:55] <mattstang> H264, should be just CD editions unless you order them
[09:55] <eternaljoy> brutopia: wirless and the other: Nvida allceratoed grapgics driver = NOT in use
[09:55] <H264> mattstang: I think there is only one - that covers both live and alternate
[09:55] <Gorlist> Morning
[09:55] <brutopia> install that nvidia thing
[09:55] <felipec> idefix: hmm, the system will be exactly the same? so when I update it will download the same pagackages?
[09:55] <lethu> vm, are you using dual screen?
[09:55] <eternaljoy> brutopia: you mean select it?
[09:55] <brutopia> yes
[09:55] <H264> mattstang: I am working on labels right now, and would like to be through
[09:55] <vm> lethu, no
[09:56] <eternaljoy> brussel: ok i click on Enabled
[09:56] <mattstang> H264, there is desktop and server... and there is two versions.... I think they are Fiesty and edgy
[09:56] <mattstang> 6.xx and 7.02
[09:56] <eternaljoy> brutopia: saus need reboot
[09:56] <mattstang> the 6.xx version has LTS... longer support
[09:56] <idefix> felipec: what do you mean by update?
[09:56] <brutopia> then reboot and try quake 4 again
[09:56] <Gorlist> Slight problem, yesterday got the latest ATI drivers working lovely - boot up this morning to fine OpenGL rendering has gone back to Mesa - any suggestions!
[09:56] <eternaljoy> brutopia: what do I do if ubuntu wont start with X error?
[09:56] <H264> mattstang: ok
[09:56] <brutopia> it made a backup of your xorg.conf
[09:56] <brutopia> restore it to the same name and it takes old settings to use
[09:57] <eternaljoy> ok
[09:57] <Gorlist> one moment
[09:57] <eternaljoy> brb
[09:57] <idefix> felipec: but the system will be exactly the same... the installer will let you chose what to install ubuntu, kbuntu, xubuntu etc.
[09:57] <H264> mattstang: thanks :)
[09:57] <mattstang> H264, np dood!
[09:57] <idefix> felipec: and it will download the aproprate packages
[09:57] <felipec> idefix: update the system, apt-get update I guess
[09:57] <Gorlist> the concurrent xorg.conf file appears to be correct?
[09:57] <Gorlist> so has it just loaded a backup?
[09:58] <lethu> vm, I am not familiar with ati xorg configurations that's why I might be wrong but your second screen section looks weird to me
[09:58] <Defian> stbcomp, i think i got it figured out
[09:58] <idefix> felipec: well i thought u were talking about a fresh install.. if you want to upgrade your system its 'apt-get upgarde'
[09:58] <stbcomp> yeah?
[09:59] <Defian> lemme get you a link
[09:59] <stbcomp> ta
[09:59] <stbcomp> You here in oz?
[09:59] <bobslaede> anybody know of a caldav web-based client?
[09:59] <Defian> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=321533&highlight=saa7134
[09:59] <lethu> vm, let me edit the file for you ok?
[09:59] <Defian> third post
[09:59] <Gorlist> eternaljoy: just checked the current xorg.conf - seems to be set correctly
[09:59] <Defian> i followed what he did
[09:59] <vm> okay
[09:59] <stbcomp> Thanks for that, I'll give it a go
[09:59] <lethu> vm, 1min
[09:59] <idefix> felipec: in any case take a look at this http://wiki.koeln.ccc.de/index.php/Ubuntu_PXE_Install
[09:59] <Defian> (cept his typo of 1734 instead of 7134)
[09:59] <Defian> now it works
[09:59] <Defian> so far anyway
[09:59] <Defian> gotta test it now
[09:59] <Defian> it gets a picture though
[10:00] <Defian> so it's a step
[10:00] <sorsis> actually i would like to make installation disk again
[10:00] <Nanu> Hi room
[10:00] <sorsis> i would like to make put "Ruvuntu" as Raw Ubuntu on installation disk
[10:00] <felipec> idefix: I don't want that, I just want to download a small image, like to create an USB disk, so I can install Ubuntu from there
[10:01] <sorsis> then put that welcome center to be excecuted before huge amount of packages is installed
[10:01] <stbcomp> well done defian, I'll be back in a sec
[10:01] <vm> Lethu, i will brb, found a possible work around
[10:01] <lethu> vm, ok
[10:01] <felipec> idefix: and since obviously the first thing I'm going to do is update, I thought maybe it was a good idea that instead of downloading lets say kernel-2.6.20 and then download again kernel-2.6.21, download .21 the first time
[10:01] <idefix> felipec: afaik know ubuntu does not provide such an image.
[10:01] <Defian> GOOGLE IS YOUR GOD! BOW BEFORE IT! MUAHAHAHAH *cough* :P
[10:02] <sorsis> Is there some more experienced guy who would have a bit of time to negotiate with me?
[10:02] <felipec> idefix: all right, but does what I say makes sense?
[10:02] <Gerro> sorsis: me pick me, I'm the more experienced newbie
[10:03] <vm> gargh that was a failed attempt lol
[10:03] <hooper> How so I write a simple script for ubuntu?
[10:03] <Nanu> I have an out hard desk,, I can not write any file on it ,,, how can I??
[10:03] <idefix> felipec: if you want to save bandwith yes.. cauz if you download the cd and then upgrade you'll have to re-download updatet packages.. so yes it makes sense.
[10:03] <Gerro> Nanu: you want to write a file to your desk?
[10:03] <lethu> vm, hehe, I think I found your solution
[10:03] <Nanu> Gerro yes
[10:03] <Gerro> felipec: don't get full package unless you have no internet at your house
[10:04] <denardo> virdiq: Hmm, didn't find any usefully huge files or directories.
[10:04] <anathematic> :( someone want to help me out installing ubuntu for half a second?
[10:04] <stbcomp> I'm still getting a blue screen here
[10:04] <Gerro> Nanu: well get out a chisel and a hammer and start chipping away at it? is it like steel or wooden desk?
[10:04] <felipec> Gerro: ehm, parse error
[10:04] <anathematic> i booted it from the cd fine and when i click to install it the screen turns off
[10:04] <felipec> Gerro: come again?
[10:04] <Gerro> felipec: kool, with what?
[10:05] <vm> lethu, if you did you are my new god, although u shall still be second to packages and multiple desktops, but please do tell :P
[10:05] <idefix> felipec: the network install will help you there though - it does fetch the packages from the current (up to date) repository.
[10:05] <lethu> vm, lol oki
[10:05] <lethu> vm, let me paste it
[10:05] <Defian> stbcomp, are you using tvtime?
[10:05] <Nanu> Geroo: it is a laptop Desk in a box .. with a USB cable
[10:06] <Gorlist> Right guys, eternaljoy suggest my Ubuntu was using a backup file of the xorg.conf ?
[10:06] <stbcomp> Yep
[10:06] <felipec> idefix: by network install you are refering to the PXE install?
[10:06] <eternaljoy> when I enabled Nvida accelrator, X wont start
[10:06] <idefix> idefix: yes
[10:06] <Gorlist> as for somereason It stopped loading 3d Accel. instead used Messa
[10:06] <Defian> right click, hit input configuration, and see if you can change the video source
[10:06] <Defian> i had to use composite2
[10:06] <eternaljoy> Gorlist: I was???
[10:06] <stbcomp> okay one sec
[10:06] <Gorlist> i check my xorg.conf file and its correct
[10:06] <Gorlist> yes :)
[10:07] <graveson1> what tool can i use to encode from divx(avi) to h.264 using preferably a gui
[10:07] <Gorlist> sorry it was brutopia :)
[10:07] <dimebar> graveson1: acidrip ?
[10:07] <Nanu> Gerro:  it is a laptop Desk in a box .. with a USB cable
[10:07] <Gorlist> brutopia: I checked the Xorg.conf and it appears to be correct?
[10:07] <H264> graveson1: VLC works alright :)
[10:07] <virdiq> denardo: maybe try removing as many packages as possible, update to Feisty, then reinstall as many of the original packages as possible --- the reason being that the upgrade may need a lot of temporary space to work, which is cleared up after the update
[10:07] <Nanu> Nanu:
[10:08] <Gerro> Nanu: I have no clue what your talking about really...
[10:08] <eternaljoy> brutopia: it didnt work!  X wont start
[10:08] <Gerro> Nanu: are you trying to mount a hard drive under linux using a live cd?
[10:08] <denardo> I wonder if I could lend some space to the / partition from the /home partition.
[10:08] <idefix> felipec: still there is another thing you should consider. if you at any point want to reinstall you'll have to redownload the whole dist again. you dont have to do that if you got the cd.
[10:08] <H264> graveson1: did you catch that?
[10:09] <lethu> vm, here you go http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/20133/
[10:09] <eternaljoy> brutopia: you here?
[10:09] <stbcomp> No dice, still a blue screen
[10:09] <Defian> blue screen eh? hm
[10:09] <H264> heheh
[10:09] <Defian> i only get a blue screen in television mode
[10:10] <felipec> idefix: right, but if 90% of the packages are updated already and Ubuntu supported install from latest that wouldn't matter
[10:10] <Nanu> Gerro: no .. it is simple . I have portable Hard desk.. It is mounted and I can read it ,, but I cannot write to it
[10:10] <vm> lethu, time to test it brb
[10:10] <stbcomp> If I change to anything but television or television mono, I get a black screen and can't choose Channel Management
[10:10] <H264> Nanu: what is it formatted as?
[10:10] <felipec> idefix: PXE installs are great, but that's not what I want right now
[10:10] <Defian> ah, well all i'm trying to with mine is plugin a game console
[10:11] <Nanu> NTFS
[10:11] <Defian> which works fine on composite 2
[10:11] <stbcomp> okay
[10:11] <H264> Nanu :/
[10:11] <Defian> are you trying to make use of the tuner function?
[10:11] <stbcomp> yep
[10:11] <idefix> felipec: in that case i guess you're stuck with the cd.
[10:11] <Nanu> H264: maybe i matter of permissions
[10:11] <Defian> well, if it means anything it lets me choose channel management
[10:12] <stbcomp> weird this one
[10:12] <Defian> yeah
[10:12] <felipec> idefix: right
[10:12] <Nanu> I tried to do it on terminal .. it says: ( only read )
[10:12] <stbcomp> I guess I'll have to troll the forums and see what I can find
[10:13] <Defian> well good luck
[10:13] <H264> Nanu: well... perhaps, but I don't know if Ubuntu can write to NTFS, the problem is that Microsoft owns and keeps to its self the writing portion of NTFS
[10:13] <Defian> I on the other hand, need sleep.
[10:13] <valehru_> what is the fastest and easiest mail server I could set up?
[10:13] <vm> lethu it fixed the reso, but not the text, and now the largest reso i can set my desktop at is 1024x768 instead of the 1280x1024 like before
[10:13] <felipec> idefix: I'm giving Ubuntu another try, I'm a Fedora user, so far F 1 - U 0, I can download an 8MB image, burn it, and install from FTP
[10:13] <Nanu> H264: well ,, fuck Microsoft
[10:14] <Nanu> Cya
[10:14] <stbcomp> Thanks Defian, that was a start mate
[10:14] <stbcomp> I'll let you know how it goes
[10:14] <H264> Nanu: even if you could write to it after a while it might not work
[10:14] <lethu> vm, that's not a problem you can add any reso you want that your monitor can support
[10:14] <Defian> sure thing
[10:14] <idefix> felipec: yup debian can do that in a similar way. but afaik ubuntu does not even have a 'base package' without all the desktop stuff.
[10:14] <vm> lol any ideas how to fix text then?
[10:14] <H264> Nanu: somewhere I read something about that happening
[10:14] <lethu> vm, what's exactly the problem with the text?
[10:15] <crabgrass> okay, so i saw "filesystem is NOT clean" when i rebooted just now, and everything is lagging up right now, what's going on?
[10:15] <vm> lol its smaller then an ant
[10:15] <idefix> felipec: so its either all or nothing.. i might be wrong though i my selfe swtiched from etch a few week ago :)
[10:15] <Nanu> H264: can i format it?
[10:15] <stbcomp> have a good sleep
[10:15] <H264> Nanu: you dual boot?
[10:15] <lethu> vm, lol hmm can't help you there sorry, am no expert with ants : x
[10:16] <H264> Nanu: or is that just an extra storage disk for windows?
[10:16] <felipec> idefix: hm, yeah, in Ubuntu you don't choose which packages you want at installation time right? all the stuff that's in the CD is installed
[10:16] <vm> haha, but i need to be able to choose session, and i cant see the text to do so ><
[10:16] <graveson1> dimebar: acidrip is for audio ,but i will check it out
[10:16] <graveson1> H264: thanks i will check it out
[10:17] <H264> graveson1: thanks for what?
[10:17] <Nanu> H264: it is a desk on a box with USB cable connected to the USB port in my motherboard
[10:17] <lethu> vm, ask somebody else as I have no idea what it might be coming from sorry
[10:17] <dimebar> graveson1: you can use it for video stuff too
[10:17] <Nanu> I don't no what do u call this kind of desks
[10:17] <vm> kk np, ty for ur help
[10:18] <idefix> felipec: pretty much yes.. they have got one meta package and that pulls all the other ones with it. so essential all you do is chose your top-level package, kbuntu -kde, ubuntu -gnome. and thats it.
[10:18] <H264> Nanu: ok, you use it for extra storage only?
[10:18] <lethu> vm, yw good luck
[10:18] <Nanu> H264: yes
[10:18] <H264> Nanu: Great :)
[10:18] <Ukendt> Hey
[10:18] <idefix> felipec: i like that for my desktop system though. cauz its not as bloated as it sound.. i mean its just the basic 700mb :)
[10:18] <valehru_> !mail
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[10:18] <valehru_> !postfix
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[10:19] <H264> Nanu: Linux (and everything else for that matter) works quite well with FAT32, which is what I would format it as...
[10:19] <felipec> idefix: yes, but I rarely use bare desktop, I usually install development packages right away
[10:19] <vm> lethu, one last thing, how do i get it back to 1280x1024?
[10:19] <idefix> felipec: go gentoo ;)
[10:20] <pirx> i am trying to compile a driver for a wireless network card. it asks me to provide the path for the (compiled and built) target kernel
[10:20] <Nanu> H264L: great ,, tell me how to make it FAT32
[10:20] <Dramakus> steed?
[10:20] <H264> Nanu: which OS are you using that it is plugged into?
[10:20] <pirx> so i entered /usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.20-15. but thats not right,right? :)
[10:21] <Nanu> H264: I gotta go
[10:21] <lethu> vm, just add "1280x1024" before "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480" in the Modes line
[10:21] <Nanu> Cya
[10:21] <lethu> vm, don't forget the space
[10:21] <idefix> felipec: but honestly give debian a try.. its essentially the same and offers everything you want.
[10:21] <H264> Nanu: ok cy :)
[10:21] <felipec> idefix: I don't want to mess with the whole system =/, only some stuff
[10:21] <H264> *cya
[10:22] <idefix> felipec: debian has a base meta package that is very small - essentially just installs apt and friends and from there on you can install all the packages you want.
[10:23] <H264> this place is crazy with 1,000+ ppl in it - all trying to say something at the same time
[10:23] <phy2> Not all
[10:24] <H264> fine, half :)
[10:24] <Do``> could someone help me with this issue? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=2616708#post2616708
[10:24] <H264> heh, it is still kinda crazy :)
[10:24] <denardo> Well, I tried removing /var/cache/apt/archives/ and recreating it as a symlink to space on a partition where I *do* have space. So now update manager completely craps out while just looking at the system.
[10:24] <idefix> H264: filter you information dude
[10:24] <vm> lol fixed reso w00t, now to fix this text ><
[10:25] <denardo> ANyone know if having that as a symlink is a bad thing?
[10:25] <lethu> vm, hehe, forums are your friends : )
[10:25] <felipec> idefix: I gave debian a try, I will never like it, but Ubuntu was not that bad 3 years ago
[10:26] <nopcode> where can i find pthreads documentation?
[10:26] <idefix> denardo: you can do that no problem
[10:26] <denardo> idefix: so any clue why my update manager is dying?
[10:27] <phy2> I'm here after 3 years away from linux to see what the "state of the art" is, particularly how it sets with new users... Looks grim for the casual adopter if it doesn't go perfectly... Then as soon as nuuser learns something, it gets broke some more... bummer
[10:27] <idefix> denardo: hmm ok.. if you want to update that -might- be another issue i know apt has no problmes with it. i dont know how the update manager handles it.
[10:28] <pirx> come on, please tell me what the path to the "compiled and built target kernel" is:)
[10:28] <phy2> My case, I had to disconnect two IDE drives, and remove a second video card, to get the live insttall to go
[10:28] <felipec> nopcode: google: man pthread
[10:28] <idefix> denardo: even though there is no reason for it not to work.. did you try starting the update-manager from a terminal so you can see the error msg it dies with
[10:28] <nopcode> felipec: no that cant be
[10:28] <pirx> do i need to install some more package to have all the source, headers and stuff in the system?
[10:29] <nopcode> felipec: i've got much better pthread documentation in "info libc" on other systems
[10:29] <idefix> felipec: well i like debian... it takes some getting used to. but then again i switched to ubuntu for my desktop systems :)
[10:30] <denardo> idefix: Hmm... how do I find the command-line command to start the update manager?
[10:30] <vm> this is just getting downright annoying lol
[10:30] <idefix> denardo: 'sudo update-manager'
[10:31] <H264> phy2: yeah, however for me I am willing to work out a problem if it installs (more or less) without a problem, I feel more comfy if I can move a window around and don't have to touch the command line except for the copy-paste fix on the forum
[10:32] <vm> would anyone know how to fix my login screen? the text is approximately 2px big :(
[10:32] <denardo> idefix: Hmm. "SystemError: E:Archive directory /var/cache/apt/archives/partial is missing." Should I just mkdir that directory?
[10:33] <RPDrake> is it just me or are the Ekiga Softphone quite lousy?
[10:33] <idefixx> denardo: create it its a dir 'sudo mkdir /var/cache/apt/archives/partial'
[10:34] <[swb] > yeah it seems a little flaky to me
[10:34] <denardo> idefixx: Ah, tried it, and updae-manager is working so far!
[10:34] <dimebar> RPDrake: I don't have any probs with ekiga
[10:34] <[swb] > when its working it works well, but I have found that it often crashes, and sometimes tries to register with the wrong password
[10:34] <deadeyez> hi all, having some trouble doing updates
[10:34] <deadeyez> I want to do sudo apt-get update
[10:34] <RPDrake> dimebar: with the default settings?
[10:34] <deadeyez> but I get [waiting for headers]
[10:35] <dimebar> Only problem I had was when the default stun server didn't work; I had to change it to a different one
[10:35] <deadeyez> when I ping the address:  http://be.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ then I get ==> unknown host
[10:35] <idefixx> denardo: im fairly sure it will get the job done now
[10:35] <denardo> idefixx: Argh. update-manager now complains again that there isn'
[10:36] <dimebar> RPDrake: what is the problem you're having with it?
[10:36] <RPDrake> dimebar: you can use ip addresses too right?
[10:36] <idefixx> denardo: ?
[10:36] <RPDrake> dimebar: the sound is quite noisy
[10:36] <denardo> idefixx: (oops) isn't enough space in the directory, even though I symlinked the directory to a partition where there is plenty of space.
[10:36] <dimebar> RPDrake: Do you use a headset?
[10:36] <RPDrake> dimebar: and delayed
[10:37] <RPDrake> dimebar: I use the build in mic on my laptop
[10:38] <dimebar> RPDrake: Do you use other VOIP software in that way?
[10:38] <idefixx> denardo: which directory did you delete? and how did you create the symlink?
[10:38] <RPDrake> dimebar: with IP instead of Ekiga style address?
[10:39] <ferronica> what is the purpose for eubuntu
[10:39] <H264> dedeyez: under System > Administration > Software Sources, do you have the right boxes check off?
[10:39] <rezzie> hallo
[10:39] <rezzie> hello everyone
[10:39] <RPDrake> yo rezzie
[10:40] <rezzie> have a nice day
[10:40] <crdlb> !edubuntu | ferronica
[10:40] <ubotu> ferronica: Edubuntu is an Ubuntu derivative aimed at schools and educational institutions. For more info, see http://www.edubuntu.org
[10:40] <RPDrake> you too
[10:40] <H264> dedeyez: under the Ubuntu Software tab
[10:40] <RPDrake> haha
[10:40] <denardo> idefixx: "lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 25 2007-05-10 01:17 /var/cache/apt/archives -> /home/jzitt/apt-archives/"
[10:40] <idefixx> denardo: looks ok
[10:41] <RPDrake> a+w ;)
[10:41] <ltracy> hehehe wrote a little python script to connect to preferred essid's.. wonder if I can make it good and add a frontend to it.
[10:41] <dimebar> RPDrake: I think you're using H232 rather than SIP - SIP in my opinion works far better.  http://wiki.ekiga.org/index.php/What_is_SIP%3F
[10:41] <ltracy> Anybody have an idea of how to find out when a wireless network comes into or out of view?
[10:41] <H264> deadeyes: Sorry, I was calling you dedeyez
[10:42] <H264> gnah
[10:42] <H264> *deadeyez
[10:42] <H264> :P
[10:42] <RPDrake> thnx dimebar I'll check it
[10:42] <idefixx> denardo: im guessing /var is on your root partition? how much free space have you got there? 'df -h'
[10:42] <denardo> idefixx: df says /home has 2021952K free, but update-manager complains that /var/cache/apt/archives needs at least 730K
[10:43] <dimebar> RPDrake: If it doesn't sound any better may want to give Gizmo a go
[10:43] <denardo> idefixx: /var is indeed on the root partition, which has only 348M free.
[10:43] <RPDrake> dimebar: seems like the SIP is just like a DNS
[10:43] <bullgard4> What driver is responsible to write in /proc/acpi/battery/BAT0/info "last full capacity: 3937 mAh"?
[10:44] <ltracy> Has anybody tried beryl on ubuntu?
[10:44] <RPDrake> no lil a tho'
[10:44] <H264> yep
[10:44] <ltracy> does it work well?
[10:44] <idefixx> denardo: well thats still more than 730k even if it would check for the partition not the dir.
[10:44] <H264> quite if you are using 32 bit... I don't think the ATI 64bit drivers will work with beryl
[10:45] <crdlb> why wouldn't they?
[10:45] <idefixx> denardo: what does 'df -h /var/cache/apt/archives/' and 'df -h /var/cache/apt/archives/partial/' report?
[10:45] <denardo> idefixx: Actually, I think update-manager may have complained about 730M, not 730K. I'll double-check -- getting tired.
[10:45] <anathematic> hey guys i'm installing ubuntu at the moment and the resolution it's running it is outside my monitors capabilities, i've selected on the menu "vga" to 800 by 600 and it works for the first section however after the menu has loaded and some text goes through it dies again, anyone able to through some suggestions to me?
[10:46] <ltracy> cool
[10:46] <H264> because I am running 64bit Ubuntu and I have the ATI drivers installed right, but beryl only crashes
[10:46] <dimebar> RPDrake: similar idea, yes
[10:46] <nopcode> H264: HA HA!</nelson>
[10:46] <denardo> idefixx: for each, it says "/dev/hda5             5.1G  2.9G  2.0G  60% /home"
[10:47] <H264> I can't say about NVIDIA, I would bet they will work...
[10:47] <H264> (for 64bit)
[10:47] <ltracy> hehe, they seem to :)
[10:47] <anathematic> anyone...?
[10:47] <ltracy> 32 bit nvidida
[10:47] <nopcode> H264: yeah
[10:47] <Slart> H264: ask in #ubuntu-effects , they are the bling bling experts
[10:47] <crdlb> H264: are you using Xgl?
[10:47] <nopcode> H264: works nicely on 64 bit. dont buy ati.
[10:47] <idefixx> denardo: that probably means the update manager is to dumb to understand that there is an symlink and just check how much space is left on '/' and dies
[10:47] <ltracy> had trouble on my gentoo box..
[10:48] <idefixx> denardo: kind of odd though...
[10:48] <JohnChimpo> Hey guys.  I just installed Ubuntu 7.04 from the live CD and after it rebooted I booted up to the disk I installed it on and I only get a black screen with "GRUB" in the top left corner and an underscore.  it stops there and does nothing and accepts no keyboard input.
[10:48] <H264> nopcode: Too late... I already bought an Apple iMac Core 2 Duo, it comes with an ATI :(
[10:48] <Josesordo> I format a NTFS partition and create a ext3 partition with gparted and now I cant write in the new partition (ext3) :(
[10:48] <denardo> idefixx: Yeah, that's my guess, too. I'd been hoping that maybe I could shift some stuff off of / temporarily, but what to clear off is, um, unclear :-)
[10:48] <yagami> hi, everyone. how do i use gnome cd/dvd maker to burn iso images? is it possible at all?
[10:48] <nopcode> H264: uhm